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Hello, there!
I am heading to St. Petersburg in a couple of months.
Planning to spend one week in one apartment (Nevsky Pr.?) ; is that a suitable location, I mean for night-activity ?
I have been travelling to Prague, Budapest, Warsaw, but
short-time "sessions" are not my cup of tea, though I had nice experiences (Gorgeous chicks and mostly good attitude), but I would rather go for all-nighters.
How much should I expect to pay for an all nighter?
Is this a convenient choice for SPB ?
I'm also considering to visit "Intim Salons" or try to contact Escort Agencies : any advise ?
Would you recommend any clubs ?
Thanks in advance guys and Regards
mro
What is the situation with lady visitors to a room in hotels? I will be staying at the Hotel Moskva and would like to know if there is any problem in having your girl friend visiting you there in the evening and even staying overnight.
Many thanks for an urgent reply.
The Hotel Moscow was the place that persuaded me to only use apartments!
They used to allow girls in for a small tip, about $20. They changed the security and women were no longer allowed at any price. I don't know if this has changed since I was last there about 2 years ago but I am not about to try it again!
get an apartment for a few days $35 and up from Tania at [url]http://www.apartments.spb.ru[/url]
Tell her Andrew sent you!
Dusty_bin--
Could you give the site address again for the apartment locator for hotels in Russia. When I try to pull it up I get an Incorrect address message. http://www.apartments.spb.ru/ ????
Thanks
Sorry about that!
http://www.apartment.spb.ru
have a good time!
You might want to ask Tania about the dinner parties that she can organise!
NEVER, EVER GO TO GOLDEN DOLLS
I felt like had leeches sucking on me from the moment I entered. I was there for 5 minutes and 5 girls asked me my name where I was from and, Oh Did I wand a $100 lap dance in the VIP room! $10 before 10pm and $20 after. Beers are $8 (225rb)(everywere else in SPG they are MAX $2) A total rip off place.
Yes, I got the nice come back for free pass but why put myself through that again. If you need to be harrased by women wanting your $$$ go here otherwiser go to Marstal or Tribunal.
Had a beautiful blonde for $80 + $20 for the room from Marstal for the night until 8am. BBBJ and 2 SOG and a very good massage to boot.
Across69
Sorry to hear that you were disappointed with Golden Dolls. I have to confess I love the place. I usually aim to go before 10PM. It is important to be a little restrained there, be a little diffident. If they were wanting $100 for a 'private' then prices may have gone up, also my recolection was that drinks were not too bad, although if I recall correctly they serve only imported bottled beer and so it is, as in other places, significantly more costly. I usually drink to straight Scotch which was not particularly expensive.
I usually tip the girls with 50Rbl, but do not tip every time, that way they stay keen as they can hope for money but it lasts you a lot longer!.
I think I mentioned in a previous post the silly money that they want to do 'takeaway'.
Was the other place actually Marstall, not Mistral, near the Church of the Blood on Canal Griboedova? I did not know that they had rooms. That is worthwhile knowing. For me a good night starts with a walk from my apartment, usually on Fontanka, a light meal at the Chinese opposite McDonalds, followed by an hour or two in Golden Dolls and then to Marstall for the rest of the night. I usually try to find a girl who is not on the game but don't worry over much if she is and then a walk or taxi back to my apartment, depending upon the weather and my impatience.
It's a bit of a shame that I spend more time in Tallinn these days...
Dusty,
Sorry misspelled. Marstalls. The hotel is actually not at Marstall is is 3 blocks south/west right behind the Kazan cathedral. It is a univerity hotel (like a youth hostel) but we got a private room for 700 rb with a shower and 2 twin beds.
I am going to try out a new place called Maximus strip club and see how it goes.
Also, the best strip club IMHO ANYWHERE in the world is Safari in Moscow. 300rb to get in and the girls give you a 1 song lap dance for only 100 RUBLES each all night!! I almost missed my train to SPG after my 20th lap dance including two brunettes that look a little like twins touching me and touching each other!! I gave them each 500rb and was an incredibly happy man for 20-30 minutes (I have no idea how long :) )
I spent only 90 minutes there and spent only about $60! I was seriously considering missing my train and going back to SPG the next day.
STRICT DRESS CODE NO JEANS/SNEAKERS
Tried out Maximus last night. It was almost as bad a Golden Dolls! 300rb to get In to a nice club and cheep beer to boot (60rb). However, the similar to Dolls, 3 women dancing on a nice central 3 post marble stage but the each dancer dances for half a song then comes to you for 100rb tip. I tried to get 50rb bills from the door and the bartenders but they refused. I had some $1 bills with me so I started sliping them those. They said "too little for Russia" I'm sorry do women here make more than american strippers? Also, topless only.
Went to Marstalls and had a blast. Got drunk and almost got a freebie from the friend of the girl I got last week for 2500rb
Also tried out papa colorado "kolorado Otets" at 72 Malyy prospect out on vasilevsy island. 150rb to get into the disco plus 100 more for strip club in back. Good contact dances at your chair for 100rb but only 4 girls to chose from. The place was pretty dead and the local guys were pissing off the girls by not tipping. Got a 10min nude private dance for 1000rb. By american standards it was worth it for sure. Got trapped by the bridges though, that sucked big time.
i will be visiting helsinki from the usa for a few days next month. is it possible to take a train to st. petersburg for 2-3 days? here's the catch. i don't have a russian visa. can i get a russian visa on a 2-3 notice in the usa or helsinki? from what i've heard russian visas require time and that it might cost a few hundred bucks to speed up the processing. i don't think its worth hundreds of dollars for a 2-3 day stay in st. petersburg. any thoughts about this?
The Russians were supposed to be introducing short stay visas, issued on the train from Helsinki. Last I knew there were problems and it had not yet started.
If you are in Helsinki for several days then 'Finnsov' travel can sort out a visa within 2-3 days. They can also help with train and accommodation. Just look in the phone book, or ask at your hotel reception for directions. (they are downtown and share their entrance with Alcatraz, which you should visit)
Cost I am not sure of, I know it is more expensive if you are American, but it is not silly money like the American agencies charge you guys! If you want to save time and money go to the Russian Embassy but you probably have other things to do, right?
Or go to Tallin for a couple of days and get your visa there! No visa needed to go to Tallin and nice place to hang while waiting to go to Russia
Tried the service in my hotel last night (hotel Oktabryska) had a girl that offered full sex (oral, vaginal, anal) for $100 for 1 to 2 hours as she put it. very pretty and fairly sexy but very rushed and kept telling me why are you so cheap. finally refused anal and got in a huge fight with her and her pimp. Got a $20 refund and made them sorry they fucked with me. screaming in a hotel at 1am about fucking someone in the ass cannot be good for the business of the hotel, I am sure.
Got lucky at Marstal's 2 days ago for free and got an complete night with Olga for $80, 4 days ago. I love this country
The nightclub Hollywood Nights. It is full of young hot girls. Every girl is a prostitute. it is Mafia run. I had a threesome for $150 the whole night. Also in the day a place by the docks called the Seamans Center.
I worked on a cruise ship for a few years and traveled all around the world and I know pretty much all of the good spots and what tom pay. Never more than $75 a girl! I just had to give this info out because I am amazed at the prices some of these people are paying. I once got a bj form a hot hot girl in Guatemala for $5! Urakaine is also a good spot. Oh and St. Maarten a place called the "white house" amazing.... These guys that post this info are either really dumb or really rich.
I'm staying in the Astoria hotel next week. Does anyone have any knowledge of any in house service in this hotel as I've heard it is very difficult to get outsiders in?
Traveler,
Astoria is one of the better hotels in St. Petersburg (stayed there 2 times), quite lavish, and stuff generally not intrusive, i.e. you
can bring girls with you (did it all the time). Hotel girls (in a bar from 11:00pm) are overpriced and not very good in general.
Popular pickup hangouts Marstall (Konushnia in Russian) and Tribunal
known to every cabby and not more then 100 rub (~$3) cab drive away. $100-$200 for one and $300 for pair should provide you with very pretty companionship for the night (sometimes security wants $20 per girl you brought with you, if they know them as pros. Only happened with me with girls from Tribunal). .
The other option is to call some agenices (one, [url]www.nevskystyle.com,[/url] claims that operator knows english - I
did not verify, my russian is pretty good).
Have fun,
Mouser.
Hi guys.....can anyone suggest the places to go to meet "semi-pro" girls just looking to make a few dollars a couple of times a month. I am talking about the college girl type who may escort every once in a while to make a little money. Where can you meet these women in St. Petersburg. I want to avoid the hardened pros. Thanks in advance.
To Berm 100 - This is my first post. I just left St. Petersburg a few weeks ago. I loved the city and will be going back again for a longer visit. I'm very much into searching for the GFE also. My only bit of advice if you're going in cold is to try Linda's Agency. It's on the internet with pictures of about 50 girls. I tried a few. I do not normally like agencies (don't really know what's coming and they're more expensive). But I gave it a try with only a short visit. I would recommend a girl named Arina. She is petite and slim (don't have her picture # handy). I called for her late at night and she showed up an hour later. She was dressed very stylish (nice Italian shoes and a scarf around her neck). Very pretty face and pleasant. We had something to drink and then she took a shower. She took about 15-20 minutes in the bathroom and I was beginning to get a bad feeling, but when she came out, she was dressed in heels and nice lingerie with a nice smile. She explained that she had a cold and I had woken her up. She also had to be up at 8:00 for some exams and it was about 1:00 in the morning. She seemed very open-minded (I didn't ask for anal though) and I had a nice time. I asked for her personal number and the price in the future would be half of the agency fee. She explained she only does it part-time (she's studying economics full-time). I called a few days later when she said she would be free but she told me to call later that evening because she was studying. I wasn't able to get together again. To try to sum this up - I think this girl had a lot of potential for a GFE if you have some time to spend in town. The agency will be $100 for a 1 and 1/2 hour experience, but if you like her, it's $50 + $10 for taxi fare for her on the personal line. She'll give you 50% off + $10 for any amount the agency would charge. If I recall correctly, the agency is $130 for 2 hours, $150 for 3 hours, $200 for 6 hours, $300 for 12 hours. They tell you this when you call - it's not on the web-site. Their ad is in the St. Petersburg Times also. Anyhow, I regret not getting another chance with her. If you give her a try, please post and let me know how it goes. Hopefully, you won't catch her during final exams. This is a long post for such specific information. Hope it helps. - jak
I think that you mean 'Liza' not 'Linda'. The other URL does not work and I don't recognise what it might be.
http://www.liza-escort.spb.ru
Thanks dusty bin - you are right. I checked the site again. Arina is number 30 when the girls pop on the screen. She speaks reasonably good English too.
Been living in St Petersburg for one month & figured that it was about time to contribute. Marstalls is a great place to go & surround yourself with foreigeners & it is fun, bar but a lousy place to pick up girls! The girls here used to negotiate but now are set on $100 price no deals to be had. I am a younger guy & I prefer professionals to picking up "regular girls" because there is no commitment. Made the mistake of taking home a dancer from the Koko Bango the first week I was here & all she wanted to do was call me at 3:00 in the morning & ask when I was going to see her again, after seeing her twice she decided we were going to get married & started scaring off other girls. Woah! I started going to Marstalls because of the posts here & really the girls are not as attractive as they were when I visited a year ago. I never paid more than $50 then. I have taken to finding girls on www.sexbombzzz.ru where there are a number of great hot women for around 1500 rbls an hour. I did not want to give up on the girls at Marstalls but the deal was up on Friday when I stayed until closing & offered a semi attractive girl 2000 rbls for one hour. She stuck firm on $100 and she went home alone. I guess all of the guys (suckers) that were willing to part with $100 (I even heard one girl demand and get $150) have bumped up expectations. Well happy hunting.
Has anyone tried Egoist Escort Agency? There web site is http://www.egoist.spb.ru/vip-escort/vip-escort-ru.htm
Girls look pretty nice. I will be in St. Pete at end of month and will provide a review shortly thereafter.
Now that the Summer (tourist season) is over, there should be a drop in the prices. Especially at the Tribunal and Marstal. If you are a night person and can wait until after 1 or 2 am to find a pro you can usually get her for the whole night (usually until 8 or 9 am) for a lot less( like $50 if you are patient). At Marstal and Tribunal MOST of the girls are pros there so if one won't deal with you, keep walking. I have never had a woman get mad at me for chatting her up and finding out she isn't a working girl. In the US you would get killed for this mistake!
As to the escort agencies, I have never ordered from them but I did make several atempts to find out about prices and services offered but always found them sketchy and expensive. I am sure that you can have a good time for $300 a night with a beautiful girl but why buy something sight unseen? I find it much easier to get a GFE with a pro that I picked up and talked to for a while first. Often, I can tell by talking to her that a beautiful women will probably be horrible in bed. If she obviously knows she is good looking and acts like she is doing you a big favor by sleeping with you, sex will be about as warm as a St. Petersburg night in January!
Berm... I would say all of the working girls there are semi-pro. They are just making ends meet like every one in Russia does. I have slept with a nurse, a midwife, a chemist(day job at restaurant), a school teacher and a married mother of 2, alll earning extra money. If you want a short term girl friend Russia is the place for you. I don't care if you look like Quasimoto, a lot of Russian women will be interested in you as long as you don't act like an asshole American. They don't seem to have most of the hangups women in other parts of the world seem to have.
"Dominico's" does not exist anymore.
The Tribunal Bar (Dekabristov Square, next to the Bronze Horseman) is still open. No entrance fee, non-stop exotic dancers, lots of proffessional girls, and reasonably prices beer and drinks. Price range USD 100. If you don't want to take the girl to your hotel, she can take you to a student hostel close by for an extra USD 20.
"Golden Dolls" in Nevski Prospect is a striptease bar with very good looking girls, an entrance fee in the range of equalling 5-10 USD (don't remember exactly), and very expensive beer & drinks.
In most hotels there are some pros hanging around the lobby or the hotel bar. Price range from 120 USD to 300 USD corresponding to the hotel standard.
Can anybody recommend the services of http://www.sexbombzzz.ru ?
They seem to have quite a few cuties, and good prices too !
Thanks.
Hi, its my first trip to SP, I’m not the young good looking guy, rather on other side (44.y.o.) and anyting else than athletic, but I like ……those thinks too, so would you help me out ?
How do 4/5 star Htl handle gemale guest visitors ? would you suggest to book (pay) double occupancy ?Where to find them at fair price/service relation ? I would prefer to have even the same girl for a week or so.Thanks I’ll let you know if, what or not happen
oetziboy, let me tell you that in Russia, 44 is almost a spring chicken! Young girls seem to like an older man, which is good because I'm considerably older than you are!
There are several escort services in Spb that offer girls for several days. It is expensive compared to the actual going rates in Spb. If you take that option, you would have no problem checking into the hotels and registering her with you. OTOH, if want new girls every night and you try to bring them back to your room, you will be faced with bribing security or registering her.
I'd suggest that you consider a apartment in Spb. It is less money and you can have your privacy without having to deal with the hassle of security. There are several good sources for short-term apartment rentals in Spb.
If you decide to look for a girl that will stay for several days, there are many good places... Tribunal, Marstalls, Hollywood Nights, among others. Most of the places have been discussed here with more details. It would be considerably less expensive to find a girl that you like from the open market than to hire an escort from one of the local escort services.
If you were going to Moscow, I might give you different advice because some of the better hotels are hobby-friendly and there are fewer apartments.
I'll be in St.Pete for my 3rd trip this December (3rd to 11th). Anyone else here going to be there?
To anyone going to SPG, Do NOT the the girls in your hotel! Go to Tribunal or Mistral and fuck your brains out for 60 to 100$ a NIGHT! If you want something unusual just ask her before you leave the bar and let her do all the talking at the taxi and the hotel security desk. This the the best country to get a GFE if you want it! My experience is that most Russian women are unhappy in bed and you can fuck them' til they scream and make you both happy!
Hi! Have to agree with the Marstall's tip... I was in St.Pete about a week ago and even though I had planned on trying out a few mobile numbers I had received on the internet, I ended up going to Marstalls instead since it was f$%&ing cold and I had no desire to screw around with meeting places or anything like that, especially with my poor Russian. I had been to Marstall's before, and just as I remembered, no matter what night, the place gets jumping about midnight. And the strippers dancing give you some fantastic crotch views. Even though it had been about 2-3 months since I was last there, I recognized some of the girls, who ranged in quality from a surely freebie 4-5 and a very doable 6-8. Contact very easy for everybody except the incredibly shy. Besides the mongering, it is just a fun place to booze it up and watch your fellow expats make total idiots out of themselves...even saw one disco king suddenly seize his wild flailing dance routine and stumble off the floor clutching his side in pain with a major side cramp...thought it might have been a heart attack, but he was only about 25 years old! I suggest making contact with the Russian GUYS as well...they are fun to talk to and will likely ease your contact to the girls... I was approached by two girls named Anja and Natasha... probably could have had both for $ 100 had I been quicker but I hung out too long and Anja soon found herself a John and I ended up taking dark-haired and cute Natasha for 2000 rubles. She was the cuter one anyway...a 6 normally...but an 8 after a few vodka and Coronas! And a 9 by American standards! And I didn't bargain hard. Was good standard sex... condomless BJ and kissing etc. Maybe she'll do more...didn't try. I was really tired after a hard business day. She stayed until about 8 am.
By the way...anybody try to take the strippers from Marstalls home? After their routines they hang out in street clothes there. One Georgian guy told me (a couple months back) that they could be had for $50... seems unreal, but anybody have any experience here? The strippers are the hottest girls in the place.
The Georgian guy was winding you up...
The strippers might be available for around $400, if you are not careful you will get a pasting from their 'boyfriends'. They are all stunners but they are not on the game. If you want to tempt them you have to make it worth thier while. If you want a really good looking bird, go to Golden Dolls and take a girl out back and ask about take out. You might hit lucky but again epensive, figure on $250 on their night off.
THese girls are about the best you will get. The real best is not available to most of us...
Hi dusty bin,
Thanks... guess the Georgian guy was winding me up...or didn't know himself...he was a tourist like me and maybe expected Georgian prices. Your info pretty much confirms what I assumed. And why I didn't approach the strippers. I knew $50 was unrealistic, but thought maybe some of the girls might be had for $150. Still bet it is possible with some of the girls though...ALMOST everything has its price in Russia. $250 for a golden dolls girl is a rip off in my book too, though. Still, it isn't impossible to meet strippers privately... I've done it in Moscow.... at a small club around the Marriott Aurora called Tsunami with a tall blonde with huge tits named Masha. Got lucky I guess. Maybe she still works there, you'd recognize her...she's 5'10", 38D tits, blonde hair and smooth skin...no cellulite. When I met her privately about 3 years ago she was 19...so I suppose she moved on by now. She gave me her mobile number right in the club. I told her I was an artist and wanted to draw her... and did. And more.
Any other places in St.Pete to recommend?
BTW: when I was last at Marstalls, the pimp seemed to be there. A huge Russian guy with glasses who was fondling and picking up (in the literal sense) every non-attached girl in the place and throwing them around the dance floor... they all smiled and seemed to love it....and the whole crew working there gave him a lot of lee-way and respect. Anyone know how the system works... do the "freelance" working girls have to pay to get in or give up a commission or something? I am not looking for a new line of work, just curious!
It's been a while since I was there and things may have changed...
But this is what I know.
There are several 'classes' of girls there. The 'civilians', 'amateurs' and professionals. The civilians are ordinary girls who are just up for a night out. Some are lovely, some are not. Unfortunately most speak little English but like most Russian girls they go out with an empty purse and dont want to be in the cold until the bridges go down. THis is the best bunch, no need to pay, just buy the drinks and be nice; maybe a bite to eat at the cafe on the corner of Nevsky and Gribodaeva?
Next are the amateurs, often students, most will speak some English. They tend to be opportunists, only ocasionally picking up a guy, normally they are civilian and will go with a foreigner if they like him/need to pay the rent/buy that new handbag.
Last are the professionals. They don't work for the house, they pay rent. About $100 per week IIRC. You can often spot them as they stand on their own at the edge of the dancefloor although they are often with friends. Some have pimps others not. The pimps are often sitting at the back left hand side at those big wooden tables. Often the pimps are women. If you ask them what they are doing they will be open and tell you they work there.
A girl that you pull who says something about going to say goodbye to her friends is telling her pimp the details of the deal. You'll see her go to the back.
As far as I know, the house does not run a stable; however If a girl is too regular she will be spotted and have to pay rent.
The whole deal makes the place fairly safe, if you have problem with a girl tell the security and they will give her a 'customer service lesson', when the bruises heal she can go back to work. It does enforce honesty!
Ther used to be a price 'cartel' that was hard to bust, although the amateurs were not always in the know.
My guess is that the guy was not a pimp, they are usually very discreet. I dont know who he is though, maybe the owner, often girls like to be associated with owners/managers.
THe strippers are in general not available. Usually dancers consider themselves a cut above the tarts and so suggesting P4P does not go down well except for silly money. (mind you if they work well then it might just be the most lovely woman that you ever get to shag...) They have 'boyfriends' who might not take kindly to your advances. I heard a story about a German guy who made unwelcome advances who got a bit of a pasting. If you want to try, I'd be inclined to chat them up normal style and see how it goes.
I hope that helps
Dusty Bin,
Thanks for the insight. Some new info for me and also some confirming what I've pieced together. The girl I had for 2000 rubles was a definite regular, and like several others there stood circling the dance floor, occassionally showing her goods on the dancefloor and seeking contact.
Take it easy, and if you have any other insight on St.Pete it is appreciated.
Later,
doc skank
Hi guys,
any info on some cute young girl in SPB who wants to travel a bit to meet me ? I checked different web site (e.g. Liza escort) and they quote some $600 for 1 day plus $150 (trip).
Any info about getting a nie girl for 1-2 days outside of SPB ?
Cheers
Tits_lover
Why not get a girl from Tallinn. Still probably Russian! No vsa worries and probably less expensive.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by dusty_bin
[i]Tits_lover
Why not get a girl from Tallinn. Still probably Russian! No vsa worries and probably less expensive. [/i][/QUOTE]
You are right but I like to idea of checking the pics on the internet beforehand, asking the services and details.
About Tallinn: I haven't found a real gem to spend a weekend with even from those working-house (e.g. club 16 etc).
Where to find for nice young girls with pics ?
Eita
Ah well there is a difference for you! I don't like brothels and I like to scout my own...
So the answer to your question is that I can not help you much...
If you want advance information on specific girls then I would be looking at Baltic Beauties or Le Fantasy (Google the names and they will be there). But they are bloody expensive. For the money, I would go to Tallinn and hit Olumpia (Bonny and Clyde) at about 23:00. Talk to the girls there, you should find something very nice and may be surprised on cost. There is also a woman often there with a string of very attractive girls. I think that she has them lined up for specific guys. Never bothered checking. SHe is short and chubby acting as mother hen to maybe six girls. They are always young and beautiful. I think she could sort you out.
Escort services seem to be running at about $300 for the night when prearranged. The girls will usually be model quality but will want to be discreet. Often will not go to restaurants and clubs but will keep you busy in the hotel room...
No contact information here as my friend has not given me the contact info, I will ask!
On the whole, I would go to Olumpia, see what you want and ask fairly directly, just make sure she is not with a boyfriend! RIght hand end of the bar is a good start8ing point, or the stool tables on the narrow section of the walkway round the front of the dancefloor before the bar.
It has been very good for me.
To Anyone who can help:
Will be visiting Moscow and St. Pete in early April. Is there such a thing as a red light district in either city? If so, what are the locations?
If not, are there less expensive places than what is being discussed on this board? Somewhere in the neighborhood of $50 to $60 for a good solid hour or two.
Thanks in advance
Lurking60
As far as I know, there is nothing of a red light district in Saint Petersburg.
There are Russian web sites where girls are less expensive to rent, but there are problems. They do not speak English and the sites are in Russian. It is not easy to find your way round.
If you are queasy about spending decent money then the best thing to do is rent an apartment rather than take a hotel. Use the money you save to rent women.
That should even out nicely, especially as you will not have to bribe the security staff to get a girl into your apartment, unlike a hotel!
When I was in SP I found a place that gave erotic massage-two young hot girls for one hour for about $25 US. I also saw girls hitching for rides away from the city center. My guess is the girls hitching rides were about as cheap as the massages. This was about two years ago. I suggest hooking up with a local and having him help, for it seemed to me that hotties were all over the place and can be had for cheap if you know were to look.
**BigthDikth, dusty_bin**
Thanks fellas. I appreciate your responses.
lurking60:
based on my experience and reading the site here, it is getting harder and harder to find anything decent for 50 bucks. if you aren't into trying for freebies, which are possible with some effort and luck, you maybe could try the internet sites like <[url]http://love.mail.ru/category/1500.html[/url]> or the higher scale [url]www.dosug.nu[/url]
this might be the best bet for cheaper action, there you can at least get the mobile numbers of some working girls there, but will need some place to take them.
if you'd rather go to a bar to check out the selection, which is more fun for me anyway, the pick up bars in st.pete are marstalls and tribunal. in moscow there are several, check out the [url]www.exile.ru[/url] site. they have a bar and club guide with very useful info, including some price indications...reading between the lines. you might be able to get a girl for $50 in low-season in st.pete at one of the pick up bars there, in moscow it will be much tougher. seems to me that prices are about $80 and up in moscow for this kind of bar girl...quality ranging from very average to very good. really hot babes will want at least $100 and probably considerably more, especially if there are a lot of other johns mongering. but still, it is all possible on a budget with patience, luck and some bargaining skill. i usually pay from $70-100, but have paid as much as $150 in moscow. you can obviously pay a lot more too, of course. i've never paid less than $50 in either city...and didn't feel like trying either.
you should read through old posts too, most of the info is still pretty current and it'll give you a better idea of where to go. seems to me that in moscow there is no central place really, as the scene is rep001tered at various clubs, bars and discos and the increasingly popular sauna clubs and the like...besides the above-mentioned outcall services.
in st.pete i'd just try marstalls or tribunal for starters. it is really easy access and unintimidating for the first time russia visitor with little or no russian language skills. in moscow doug and marty's boar house serves the same purpose. maybe won't be as cheap as other options, but shouldn't cost more than $100 either. some girls to look at, some like minded expats will be there too. after an initial round of fun here, you could try something more adventurous like outcall or a sauna/massage place which could be cheaper too.
I am travelling to St P in Feb, what hotels can you recommend for girls in the lobby ?
Well it's been a few years since I've been to SPB.
If money is no problem. The Grand Europe Hotel definitely has some lobby girls if I recall. But I never tried them. Its one of the best hotels in Russia. However I presume they will ask for many $$$$.
I'm sure there others on this board that can provide more insight.
The simple answer is: don't go for lobby girls. They are expensive and will only stay long enough for you to chuck your muck and then they will be gone.
IMOH you will better enjoy yourself if you get a girl from a club, you will have someone to share a drink with, maybe join you for a few hours in the evening and almost certainly stay overnight. All for the cost of an hour with one of the lobby girls.
If you have the opportunity (funds), make sure that you have a double room and that they know your companion will check in later. It will probably save you hassle from security. With a bit of luck they will just give you the second room card/key when you ask.
Joe,
Dusty is right.... The hotel girls are expensive and always in a hurry. I had a bad expierence at the Hotel Oktabryska (across from the train station to Moscow) with a girl who agreed to several things, called up the hotel pimp to take my $100 then gave me a crappy time for about 40 min. Its like the peanuts in the fridge in your room they are real convienient and pretty but expensive and not very good, usually.
Go to Marstal's or Tribunal bar. Pick up a pro for $50-150 FOR THE WHOLE NIGHT after you talked with her and found the best from a selection of 30-50 women rather than the 3-4 found at most hotels. Bring her back to your hotel and let her do all the talking and I have never had to pay more than $7 to get them in. One girl even paid this for me as a repeat customer. Otherwise, there is student hotel behind the Kazaan cathedral that all the Pros know about for $12 a night.
The next time I go to SPG I will rent an apartment for $40-60 a day that will avoid all the hassles of a hotel (I never made it to the damn free breakfasts anyway!). Just find a russian speaking travel agent to set this up for you as it is actually very commonly done.
Also, if you like a women you have had already and want her for another night the next night will be cheaper. They probably realize you might want to try as many different girls as possible during your stay. My girl Olga from Marstal's was so great we had 3 nights together. (night 1 $100, nights 2 and 3 $50 each)
One last thing.. I was stopped at 3am by 2 Cops on the Petrograd side of the Niva in July and had $300 taken from me. Russians are afraid of local cops and have no repect for them. The TV show "COPS" had some episodes in Russia a while back and almost all people arrested tried to escape from the cops even when it was for something stupid like and expired motorcyle registration. The police in Russia are NOT there to help you unless you have powerful friends backing you up.
I am headed to St. Petersburg in May for a weekend.
Any suggestions on good hotel.
I would prefer to bar hop to hire some evening fun so preferably a nice hotel which is visitor friendly.
Thanks in advance.
Chicagoboy23
Chicago Boy,
I've taken girls back to the Grand Hotel Europe Kempinski without incident... but this is THE most expensive hotel in town. From reading the posts below, it seems that most western hotels, such as the Sheraton Neysky Palace and the Astoria have the same policy.
If you are looking for a hotel or any accomadation in St.Pete, I suggest to book now, as the 300 year anniversary is being celebrated in St.Pete this year and the festivities really get rolling around May... so expect hotels to be full and $$$.
Good luck and happy hunting!
Hotels in St Petes are really expensive and can be a hassle to bring a girl back. I stayed at an old Soviet style hotel called Hotel St Petersburg. The renovated rooms were still of poor quality and cost USD100 per night ! I also had to tip the security man (I forget how much) to let the girl in. Also you need to be careful which part of town you stay in due to the bridges going up at night and you will need to stay up in the bars till about 4pm until the the bridges come down again. Yes, I had to do that as this hotel was on the other side. Nevertheless, I did pick up a girl at Marstalls having agreed on USD 60 and she provided OK service including a CBJ. This is a good bar but don't go too late - I got there at 2.00 in the morning.
I think the smart thing to do is to get an apartment near Nevsky Prospect.
I got an excellent guide, a very nice girl called Elena. She is NOT an escort - very pretty and very friendly. She has a web site http://www.russianhost.8m.com/. She can get you an apartment in the right place for much less than a hotel.
Have fun.
Cheers.
Has anybody stayed at Sheraton in St. Petersburg ?
Ouch - they want $420/'night
How is SAS/Radisson?
Thanks in advance.
HI Chicagoboy23
I've stayed several times (maybe some 10 all in all) at Radisson SAS, also I tried Renessaince, Marriot Tverskaya and Marco Polo, Radisson is Ok if you choose renovated rooms, breakfast is great, some different Restaurants (all good food) no hassle with girls, just go to first florr to get the elevator, there is a Night Club too, I've been asked for USD 500.-, later she joined (only for a drink) a long chat at the Bar, all for the taxi back home trip.....beside this Radisson is 3 min. from Metro station Slavjanskaya which is sure another plus if you're there for doing you job (as I did)
Marco Polo is terrible......I chekced in with my ex girlfirend and she has been treated -worst- than any pro could be, Marriot no problem at all
When visiting St. Petersburg on your own budget (which means you don't have $300 a night for a hotel), one of the better ideas is to rent an apartment. There are a number of apartment rental agencies advertising on the internet. Look through them carefully, and get some references before you commit.
One problem you will run into is the question of visas. Normally, to get a visa you need your hotel to fax you a confirmation. You then submit this confirmation with your visa application to the Russian embassy. When you get to St. Pete, your hotel normally stamps this visa, which must be done in order for you to exit from the country without problems. Unfortunately, most apartment rental people are unable to do this registration for you.
When I have visited St. Pete in the past, I have gotten a faxed invitation from the St. Petersburg International Hostel (I think the web addy is www.hostel.spb.ru). They will do the invitation for you for about $40-50. When you get to St. Pete, you can settle into your apartment, but you will also have to go to the hotel, which will take your passport from you for about 3 days, and have it stamped by the police (unlike the hotels, they can't stamp it for you).
All around, you should be able to have a good stay in St. Pete by using this advice, for no more than about $75 a night. As for the rest of your stay, you fellows are on your own, as I've never needed to pay anything except attention in order to spend the night with a nice and willing Russian girl. No bragging, just fact.
I hope this helps!
As I understood it when I went there, the invitation can be issued by someone other than a hotel. It can even be issued by a travel agent or by Elena (whom I have mentioned in an earlier post). In other words, it is not accomodation linked, though of course when you apply for a visa, you will be asked where you are going to be staying. This need not be where the invitation has come from.
In my view, St Petes is not worth going to purely for mongering purposes. For crying out loud, what do you need to do to get a Russian girl to smile ? There are quite a few beauties but not as many as in many other places in the world. IMHO, this may be a way to round off a day that has been spent enjoying the other sights that St Petes has to offer.
Cheers.
Thanks for hotel tips !
Jack,
Yes, and individual can do an invitation. However, it is a hassle for them, and takes time. The hostels in St. Pete do it in 24-48 hours by fax, and they do it as a business, so there is no problem with finding a person to invite. All in all I think this is a better method.
BTW in the past I have had a hotel reservation, gotten an invitation from them, got my visa, and then cancelled the reservation, and still had the visa registered by the hostel. But I wouldn't recommend it, not since I learned the hostels will do the invitations themselves.
I am also told the hotels will register/stamp your visa if you bribe somebody. However, I've not done this personally. Also, on one occasion I didn't even get my visa stamped at all, and had no problems exiting. On another occasion, there was a rip in the paper of my visa, and you would think from the reactions of the passport control that I was trying to smuggle out a neutron bomb (they still let me out without any broken bones or bribes, hee hee). Rule is, it depends on who you're dealing with.
Doing the hostel-invitation apartment route has caused me no problems, and should work for you all too.
-Uncle Otto
Hey all....
Just have a quick question.
Is there a web guide that lists all Salons or Brothels in Moscow and St. Petersburg with addresses? With ratings or feedback reports possibly? I leave on April 2nd for Moscow and will be spending my time there and in St. Pete for about 10 days. Any information would be appreciated.
Thanks in Advance
Lurking60
**Question***
Staying at the Sovetskaya in St. Pete in April. Are there any good brothels (and inexspensive) near there? Names and locations would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
Has anyone figured out a way to make a (non pro) Russian girl to smile :) ?
Cheers.
Make her happy?
If you looking for good brothel in St.Pete, the answer is simple: there aren't any. Well, to be precise, there are no brothels which will satisfy you from sanitary and comfort perspective. Girls there tired of abuse from local clientele, who often wants to squeeze every second from negotiated price (often $30/hour or less, and they actually getting 30% of it - the rest goes to "MAMKA"). And shock after visiting bathroom there can really limited your ability to perform :).
If your budget is slim, rent an apprtment instead of hotel (cheaper and better, no harrasment), and use aforementioned clubs to bed a nice girl ($100-$150 for a whole night).
Or go escort - nevskystyle.com, for example, will deliver door-to-door a nice girl for $100/2 hours.
The fact is - vast majority of good girls work outside of brothels.
**FYI**
I did find a place today just wondering around. Called Salon SPA "AELITA" they are at 179 Moskovsky Prospect (St. Petersburg). Next to the Jaguar Dealership. You have to go around to the side of the building near the very back and ring the buzzer. The administrator will buzz you in. I purchased a 60 minute erotic body massage for 1200 rubles and recieved an amazing massage and hand release from an 18 year old ex Ballarina. HOLY COW brothers. She was sooooo hot, and didn't even ask for any money but I insisted on tipping here 500 rubles. You would have thought I gave her a million by her reaction.
Normally I dig the full on Brothel thing. However, this was a great change of pace. I will return this evening or early in the morning and try the 2 girl soapy erotic massage. If any of the fellow mongers make it out to St. Petersburg, you definately need to check this place out. When I return I will see just how far they are willing to go to please. But they are all very nice and fun. Sat with the girls at the admin desk for an hour after my session just shooting the shit and cracking jokes. Oh yeah, their number is 387-1408 and 387-1415 and they speak good english. Also, they have a nice place, clean and in good repair. Great atmosphere. Anywho, going to have a little dinner now.
Will update on my next adventure.
Peace
Salon SPA "AELITA" - Update
It's official - no penetration. However, had the 2 girl erotic massage this morning (they are 24 hours btw), and it was pretty great. They will do just about everything to simulate actual sex, tit fucking, hand release, and they will sit on you and jerk you while they rub their sweet spot against you. They use a lot of baby oil also. Have had 3 different girls and all rate between 8 and 9.5 (no one is perfect in my book). 2 of the 3 girls performance I would say was outstanding. The third was also good, but unfortunately for her I was comparing her against the other 2. Seems the ages range from 18 to mid 20's and there are a few different types of girls to choose from. The receptionist is probably one of the hottest girls I have seen - too bad she's not in the line up. I asked her if her picture was in the book of choices and she said no, that she is an "Administrator". Seemed a little too young and Hot to be a Mamasan, but hey more power to her.
I do think that if you have a little spare time to spend in St. Pete that you could most certainly talk one of the girls into spending time with you in her off hours. Unfortunately, I know absolutely no Russian and my plane leaves tonight for Moscow. No time to Mack.
Well, that's all from St. Pete. Next stop Moscow, to try some of the tips from our good brother "BodyRockerForU".
Peace
Making my first trip to St Pete in early June. I'm a veteran of the Moscow scene and have posted a couple of times over there.
I've read through the advice for St Pete and am interested in calling one of the agencies, either Liza's or one of the others listed in the online St Pete Times.
I travel with a group of colleagues, so I can't go out on the hunt or walk into the hotel lobby with someone (especially a gorgeous Russian lady!) who obviously isn't part of our group.
Does anyone have any recent experiences with Liza's, Egoist, or Elite Girls? Specifically, do they operate like a "traditional" US escort service (i.e. incall or outcall?) I think I understand the fee structure, so I'm OK with that.
I'm not sure which hotel I'll be staying at yet, so I'd also appreciate any advice about how a girl from one of the agencies can get up to your room. Also, are you expected to give her cab fare home and/or walk her downstairs?
Can't wait....
I'm going to be staying in St. Petersburg at the pulkovskaya hotel May 5th thru the 17th. I was wondering if anyone knew any reputable escort agencies I could call when I get out there? I have also heard that Tribunal is a good place to check out. Is it safe for someone who does not know any Russian? Is St. Petersburg accesible for most tourists with no experience with the Russian language?
Any info is appreciated
Noah Chapin
Noah Chapin
Just returned from Moscow and St. Pete recently and can say as a person who ONLY speaks english....St. Petersburg is very accessable to the tourist. Much, Much more than in Moscow. Seems to be more people around that know english and more people around that actually want to help a tourist out.
I cannot comment on the Escort Services, I was only there for 3 days and was quite happy with the girls in the hotel bars on site. There is a local paper (I forget the name), printed in English. You can usually pick up a current copy in the cabs or in any one of the Hotels there.
PS - I might suggest getting a English to Russian phrasebook of sorts (just as a backup). I used mine quite a bit, but more for fun with the girls than an actual need. If not, stick with the cabbies or the hotel personel and you will get along without problems.
Good luck - Happy hunting
It is a while since I was in Saint Petersburg, but all the old names seem to be there still, just one question.
One of my favourite places to start a night out is Golden Dolls. What are the going rates for tips for the dancers and for privates?
Thanks!
PS are there any other similar places? There used to be one on a boat on the river, near Tribunal, is it still there?
dusty_bin,
Last time I was there was about 3 months ago and entrance fee was still 500 rubles, luckily I had an old free entrance coupon which they accepted. Girls were top as usual, prices were varied, from $30 up for various services from their "crazy menu". Opening price for a full-fledged private dance was $100. I wasn't interested, as $100 will get you a lot more a few blocks down the street.
Standard tip is 100 rubles. I've gotten away with 50 before, but really 100 is expected.
Check out this site though, this shows rooms and such that I have never seen at GD...maybe I haven't been curious enough to explore all possibilities...
http://www.golden-dolls.ru/
By the way, in those private dance rooms do you get a blow job or something, or is it just a full on naked "friction dance"?
I found the pics of the other rooms under VIP1 heading.
It explains something...
I was talking to a girl there once, she told me that there were bedrooms. I have never seen them. The girls are available for full sex for the right money. IIRC I was asked for $400 for a couple of hours. I have only ever been in the cubicles at the back of the bar.
Prices seem to have gone up somewhat. I do not ususally do the private thing, I prefer to tip well and often and enjoy the girls in the booths...
Tips are about what I usually paid, although I do not tip them all, all the time. Sometimes I don't, at random, that way they keep on approaching me, but I save a little money and they work hard to make sure I want to pay up!
I have in the past enjoyed two girls in a private cubicle for just over $80. No sex, blow job from the two girls, plenty of kissing and playing around. In its own way I thought good value for money. If privates are now starting at $100 then it's too rich for me.
The VIP rooms must be bloody expensive, but the girls look, as always, delicious!
For me a good night, on my own, can be to go dinner, then Golden Dolls, walk down to Marstall, chat a few girls up, take one home, bad a bing! Perfect 'loner' night out!
Last time I was at Golden Dolls (in Summer 2001), I had full service in one of the rooms at the back. But the romm was nothing like they show on the site (it was a grotty dark room with an old armchair, that they used for the private dances).
The whole experience was not so good; it was very hot, the music was extremely loud, and the place was really not comfortable. On the plus side, the girl I was with was a 19-year old brunette with lovely tits, and she was very easygoing (BBBJ etc.)
Before you ask, I do not remember how much I paid, but that was a lot of money by local standards. I agree that there are much better deals to be found.
Besides the full sex thing, that I had to ask quite a few girls for before I found one who was willing, the private dances can be very nice in one of the rooms. I had one with another cute brunette, who rubbed her skin with ice cubes in a very sexy way. She then allowed me to lick her tits and all. With the melted ice and the salty sweat (eek !) that made a session rather out of the ordinary...
dusty_bin,
Your St.Pete action plan sounds a bit like mine. Occassionally I hit normal places to chat up normal girls (with mixed success) but on an average biz trip I do pretty much the same as you do...eat up, let the girls at GD get me all hot and then go to Marstall's to shop around....
Didn't quite understand your post though, did you get a blow job, or not? I have always understood that private dance is just a full nude version of what you get anyway from the normal dancers at your table...so it seemed a waste of money to me. But what goes on behind closed doors is probably a matter of negotiation. Girls have asked if I wanted to go to the hotel before, but it was all $300+.
BTW: I agree that even non-sex experiences can be great...really one of the most satisfying experiences I have ever had with a working girl/dancer anywhere was when a petite hardbody Natasha sat on my lap for 20 minutes at GD and whispered a long Pushkin poem seductively in my ear while wiggling her ass sensously on my attentive Johnson...really blew my mind, and almost my load...and all for an extra tip of 200 rubles. I was shell-shocked by her for 3 days afterwards.... so it goes....
As Seydlitz said...
BBJ. two girls at work.
It was in the little cubicle. A very memeroable experience. The problem is that you don't know what you are going to get...
On other occasions I have had for almost the same money a girl stripping off and playing with ice and fruit, hardly any contact.
The time with the two girls, I had done privates with one girl before and always tipped her well as she seemed to enjoy her work and was a horny little minx; a little older than some.
going to be in St. Petersburg next weekend May 2-4
first time visitor to SP
any fellow mongers who want to hit the strip clubs e-mail me
chicagoboy23a@yahoo.com
Just got back from St. Petersburg. Highly recommend city.
Met an awesome 21 year old student at Tribunal. She was very enthusiastic and extremely hot.
Girls here are great.
Price was $150 for night.
Sightseeing was good to. However its still very cold in May. It actually sleeted and I saw chunks of ice in the river.
Marstal bar
Tribunal bar
Marstal bar
Tribunal bar
I've been a lurker here for some time, but decided to put in my two cents worth about my favorite city. A couple of observations about St. Petersburg from someone who has spent a bit of time there...Stay away from most of the strip clubs on or near the city center (like Golden Dolls), as other posters have alluded to it is definitely YMMV. At best, you will overpay for decent service, something that you can get elsewhere for MUCH less.
A couple of alternatives, if you like the strip club scene are the boat on the Neva. Last spring it docked on the Admiralty Embankment, just across from the Trib. Entrance fee was 300 rub on weekdays, 600 on weekends, and drinks were a little steep. But this was more than compensated for by the quality, quantity, and service provided by the talent. Between dances, the dancers would circulate. For a 50 rub. tip (no more!!) a molodaya, krasivwree devushka would rub herself on you, you could touch as much as you wanted (right at your table), and most would reciprocate the touch. Almost every single girl told me that I could take them downstairs for an hour for 40-50 USD. I didn't partake of this service, but a buddy did and said it lived up to billing. Why didn't I partake? Because I sat with one of the girls who didn't offer a visit downstairs; we made out like teenagers. She became my girlfriend for the remainder of that weeklong visit. A weeklong GFE from a great 20-year old model type. Nuff said.
Another option is the club Father Colorado. It is on Vasilevsky Island, on Bolshoy Prospekt about half a mile before the Sea Terminal. The cover charge was much less, drinks much less, but the selection was also leaner. But we went during the week each time. They have a straight up deal. You pay $100 for an hour in a room with the girl of your choice. I went with Lera, an intoxicatingly beautiful 18-year old (she said) girl from Murmansk. This was an ATF, she rocked my world. Great oral skills, every position, she even offered Greek. It was tough to pass up, even though I'm not into that. For a slight extra donation (600 rub. as I recall), she took a facial blast and didn't even blink! She was really into the sex and pleasing me, which is nice from a pro. Then on top of it, she asks me if I will take her out on a date the next night! I didn't take her up on this, because I had met someone else that was on the verge of becoming my main squeeze, but I'd do her again in a second. I realize that $100 per hour is a little high by club girl standards, but this really was worth it.
A final comment is that while Golden Dolls charges a lot more than other places (if you really want the atmosphere of GD I'd try Maximus, better value for the money), a lot of the girls there also dance in other places. My 20 year old danced at GD twice a week, and on the boat 3 times. She made it seem like a common practice.
I also have some advice on other clubs, girls, strategies, if anyone is interested. If not, happy hunting all!!
Hey Zadig, nice report! Very informative to a prospective St. Petersburg traveller. This boat you mention sounds great. I was supposed to go to St. Petersburg this month, but a death in the family has delayed it for a while. When is the boat available? Is it seasonal? I would love to hear more info from you, and I'm sure quite a few would also enjoy to hear from this board also. Great report!
Zadig:
Excellent report !
I think St. Petersburg is awesome too.
Can't wait to go back.
Just difficult flight connections from USA and visa's are inconvenience.
CB
Noah: The boat moves around some. As I said, last spring it was anchored across the street from the Trib. In the summer, it was anchored on the other side of the Neva way down by the shipyard. I found this out unfortunately after my GFE had left their employ. I had 6 weeks to spend there in the summer, and it could have been one for the books! What I would recommend is asking a taxi driver or gypsy cabbie. Most of them know the ropes pretty well. You may also get offered something else from them. I got an offer once of 3 girls for an hour for $60. I'd recommend turning them down unless you can arrange a safe place to meet. Never let someone you don't know well or have recommended to you know where you live. St. Pete isn't dangerous per se, but it's best to be safe.
chicagoboy: Yes, St. Pete is wonderful. Beyond the spectcular sex (pro and amateur) available it is a great city. If you are into jazz, check out JFC Jazz Club. It's a favorite of expats and anyone who can appreciate good music. You can also meet some good amateurs there, though it's not a great place for scoping. I also recommend that anyone going to St. Pete go see Club Metro just once (it's on Ligovsky Prospekt about 2 km from the center). Besides being an awesome spectacle (five floors of different types of bars and the coolest skinhead women security staff), you can meet great women of all types there (pros, semipros, and amateurs). I have met more than a handful of women there. Most were amateurs just looking for a good time. One girl in particular was 22 years old, told me that she managed a tour agency, and offered to give me a city tour the next day. After dinner, I got taken on a bonus trip around the world, ifun you know what I mean. This girl wasn't great looking (a 6 by Russian standards = an 8-9 American), but she was really wild. When she left the next morning, I was totally wasted. I kept falling asleep the next day during business presentations. If you go to Club Metro, go after midnight. The place comes alive then.
One point that I should make, in my posts on amateurs I'm not trying to brag, just reporting. Any man who is breathing and semi interesting should be able to find a woman in St. Pete. I am in my late 30s, about 25 pounds overweight, wear glasses, etc. My only problem with women in St. Petersburg is not getting married multiple times. Yes, I know that it probably has a lot to do with the fact that I'm Western and can provide a route to getting a green card, but I have been with women in Russia that expressed no interest at all in leaving. Russian women in general despise Russian men, and are looking for anyone that will treat them with a little respect. The key, as others have suggested here, is to be forward and a little cocky.
Regarding visas, a place that I didn't see mentioned on this board (though I may have missed it) to get an invitation letter is http://gotorussia.net (no WWW in front). They will send you an invitation letter for a tourist visa. The service is fast, I got my invitation letter within 48 hours. Then send this off with the other materials to the Russian embassy for the visa. A nice thing is that they will also register your visa for $20 when you get to St. Pete (their office is at 29 Ligovsky Prospekt, just around the corner from Metro station Moskovsky Vokzal and the Oktyabrskaya Hotel). This really helps since normal visa registration stinks.
Regarding flights, try using an airline consolidator (one online is http://www.airlineconsolidator.com). They can save you as much as 50 percent off published fares, depending on the season (less in summer).
More tips later. But I'm off to the Baltics now for three weeks. I hope to have much, much fun!!
Hey Zadig. Iwant your job:))) Does your company hires?
I have not been in SPB in 10 years. And you seems to almost live there:) Envy envy envy........
Tell me please where is a good clubs-cafes to pick up non pros?
Also I wonder if you can coment on prices in general are they the same or just slightly lower then in Moscow? I mean prices on girls-drinks-food.
Thank you for your info.
Russian dating sites.
I’ve been reading this forum for some time now and I will visit St. Pete this summer for business. I will be there only for 3 days unfortunately, but will try to have a GFE. I think that 2 nights is too little to find a nice girl in a bar or elsewhere so I try to prepare from here by having a look at Russian dating sites. I speak reasonable Russian (2 on a scale from 1-6), so Cyrillic should not be a problem in most cases.
Does anyone of you have (good or bad) experiences with Russian dating sites? What I found out so far is that many of them contain crap, copies of photos of other sites and fake photos that will only generate plain spam once you send them an email. (Fortunately I am using a disposable email address for this).
Regards,
Mike
Mike #3,
My buddy used Mystic Cafe (www.mysticcafe.com) before and his experience sounded very positive. Check under women of the world. I am thinking about using their service also when I go to Peter.
Whats going on in St. Petersburg
I heard the streets were all blocked off for the 300 year anniversary with Bush, Putin etc visiting.
I know hotels were almost impossible to get.
Are things back to normal?
What is a reasonable girl friendly hotel?
FYI
http://an.aport.ru/scripts/template.dll?lh_Objective=11&Rt=2&Tn=2&ini=20.ini&Base=love1&lh_Gender=2&l_Age=&h_Age=&l_Length=&h_Length=&lh_City=3&l_Size=&h_Size=&l_Price=&h_Price=&sf=Timestamp&sort=8
Everything's there: photos, price, phone numbers etc.
Happy hunting.
Dear all,
I'll travel to St. Pete in early July for 2 days (week days). What are the options with the guaranted results? Have had enough girls in my life, only want to travel to Russian for the very beautiful ones. don't mind money. Any suggestion?
Thanks
Steve
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In my opinion the newbie to the St.Pete scene has two easy-access options:
1) hotel girls/and or call in from the bell boy
2) pick up bars
St.Pete doesn't seem nearly as differentiated in its options as Moscow (is there even a tochka/line up scene there? Anybody know?), but besides the above there are the various internet portals, the salon scene and the overpriced strip club scene. These other options are mentioned in previous posts.
The Grand Hotel Kempinski Europa is the best hotel in St.Pete, bar none. The other western hotels Nevsky Palace, Astoria, the Radisson and Angleterre just don't have the flair of Europa IMHO. The location is also the best, centrally located on Nevsky Prospekt and within walking distance of most central tourist sites as well as many restaurants, bars and shopping areas.
I've never seen more than 2 or 3 bar girls working there, but these are usually girls sitting together at a table or alone. Not every girl sitting alone at the bar is automatically a prostitute. She might just be waiting for her boyfriend. But try to make eye contact and if she is alone for awhile or sitting with a girlfriend looking bored, chances are she is in the game.
Plan on spending at least $200 if not more. I doubt she'll go below that, especially in high season. At a hotel where rooms go for $350 and up, bargaining over $50 seems pretty petty anyway. The girls there will likely be more beautiful than the majority of the girls at the pick up bars, whose quality ranges from 5-8 in my opinion. Rarely have I seen a 9 at of those places...if ever.
You can ask a bell boy, but be discreet. I've never done it personally, preferring to go to the pick up bars.
The pick up bars I know of in St.Pete are Marstalls, located in front of the big church in the center of town, just down Nevsky from the Kempinski Europa hotel and the Tribunal bar, located down by the water....can't remember the address, but is well known and advertised in the english language papers.
Both are medium size bars with dancing and a strip show. I found the strip show at Marstalls to be better, but the girls at Tribunal to be cuter...that surely varies from night to night though. Lots of expats at both, expat women as well. They pale in comparison to the local babes, but are probably fairly easy to pick up since no one is paying attention to them. But why go out for hamburger when you can have steak. Prices for the working girls should be the same at both places, about $100. They'll probably ask for $150. Some might go for less than $100, but I doubt the really cute ones will during high season. In high season the cute ones might even try to stick to $150, but I've never paid that much personally. If you feel like bargaining, go for it. Again, not every girl at Marstalls or Tribunal is a prostitute. I was at Marstalls 2 weeks ago determined to take home a working girl and chatted up two girls, took them upstairs to sit, bought them drinks and started talking about going back to my apartment and asking if they wanted to go... they said they weren't that kind of girl and had just come to dance for awhile before going to another disco...they were students waiting for the cover charge to end at the other place. Ended up going to the other disco with both of them but didn't get laid. Damnit! But that's another story. Still, chatting up girls there is fun in any case, and if she is a working girl she'll let you know soon enough.
The best girl I ever picked up in St.Pete was from the Hollywood Nites disco/club just down the street from the Kempinski hotel on Nevsky Palace. The best $100 I ever spent, a Georgian girl...a solid 9 in performance and looks. Last time I was at Hollywood Nites, about a year ago, it was quite dead though. Not sure on the scene there now... But it used to be packed with sizzlin' hot chicks 2 years ago. Might be worth taking a look at. Anybody else been there recently?
I have taken girls back to the Kempinski, no problem. She'll have to register at the desk. You shouldn't be too embarassed, happens all the time. Most girls will stay till morning. If you've got time, take her out for a drink somewhere first, might improve the chemistry and the subsequent performance. Try to negotiate for the whole night, that should be in the price.
Since money is no option, you might try an agency. Sorry, but I have no experience there. I prefer to see the girls first anyway, but agencies to promise top material. There are a couple recommended in previous posts.
I personally prefer the Moscow scene to St.Pete, but I've heard other guys say the exact opposite. In any case, have a great time and post a report when you get back.
Doctor_skank,
Thank you very much for the information, I'll be there next week and will report back.
Anyone who has experience in using bellboy to get girls please share the experience. Recommendations of the escort service are also appreciated.
my email: stevehonc@msn.com
Steve
skank, MD... I agree with you... the sex buffet in Moscow is far better than Spb. OTOH, I think the normal girls you will see walking on the street in Spb are better, even though Moscow girls are beautiful the Spb girls are a notch above.
However, since I prefer the P4P scene I LOVE Moscow and, although it is more expensive than Asia or Central America, IMHO the girls are worth every ruble!
I hear ya, Ca_T...
If anyone knows of other options in St.P besides the well-documented :
1) hotel
2) pick up bar/disco
3) internet
4) salons
5) strip club girls
do a guy a favor and please drop a line. I am especially interested in a tochka scene, but this seems non-existent in St.P...almost can't imagine it not being there though...
Can't agree on Moscow girls being less beautiful than St.Pete girls... The eternal struggle between Rossia's political and its historical capital...
IMHO StP girls are more what the stereotypical Russian sexpot is... big, blonde, blue-eyed, busty babe... definitely more per capita of that in St.Pete...
Moscow rules on ethic babes (Caucasus, Moldavia, Central Asia), typical Slavic/Ukrainian babes and overall variety and volume... always overwhelming.
I'll be making my return to STP in a few weeks. Just curious has anybody been to the Metro Disco before? I was always with a girlfriend when I went. But it seamed like there were plenty of amateurs there.
Octatron, Metro is a wild place. I think that everyone should go there once, if for nothing else to see the skinhead women security guards. You can see my post a couple of months back, but to answer your question, there are all types of women at Metro, from amateur to pro.
Doc_skank, those are good reports. I too found success at Hollywood Nites, in two forms. The first was a really great semi-pro that I met there on a Thursday night last summer. $100 for the night, typical services. The nice part though is that she gave me her number. The next week was "on the house". Turns out she was a really a student (no, really, not the standard response) making some money on the side. Also, she rang all of my bells every time after this. Total GFE.
The second form of success at Hollywood Nites comes in the form of total amateurs. One of the dating agencies, A Foreign Affair, runs a social at least once a month for clients on their tour. They open it up to any foreign guy in the area. OK, so here's the scene, 10 or so pretty overwhelmed guys and 100 desperate Russian girls. Each time I crashed this scene (hey, their rules), I ended up leaving with a good looking girl. There are only two hitches with this strategy, but they can be fairly hairy if you don't manage things well. One, the girls will want to get serious straight away; and two, you might have to wait for sex for a couple of dates. However, if you can manage the situation, this can be a great way to meet amateurs. These socials used to be at Hollywood Nites, but I've heard that they moved. Check out the St. Petersburg Times (http://www.sptimesrussia.com) classifieds under Dating Services or something like that.
Hollywood nights is no more.
It closed about CHristmas time.
If you want a good night out try Magrib on Nevsky, opposite Nevsky Palace Hotel.
Dr. Skunk,
As promised, here is the report of the trip I had two weeks ago.
1. there are several upscale stores in the grand Hotel Europe where I stayed. The girls worked there are very beautiful. However, I wasn't able to ask if they were available as it would be very embressing.
2. I didn't ask bell boy for the same reason.
3. I went to Marstall around 11 pm. It was empty.
4. Hollywood nite was closed.
5. Went to Golden Dolls. The girls are very very beautiful. However, the ticket was 750RB. And girls were very agressive. I had more than 5 girls coming to me asking for tip or offering table dance within 5 minutes I entered. When I said no(just a simple "no"), each of them became upset and rude by saying very nasty word. I was about to leave as it was such a bad place when I saw a girl who was sitting there quietly. She is surely a model type girl, 9.5 on my book. I asked if she would go to hotel with me. She said yes and asked for $600 for whole night up to 6 am. As she is so beautiful and I used to 300pounds per hour in London, I siad yes and took her to my hotel. The service was OK. I got french kiss and BBJ. She only allowed one sex as there was only one condome in her purse. She gave me an additional hand job. Overall, it was an OK experience. However, I would do it again just because she was so beautiful.
Steve
Steve:
Are you mad? It's not the point that it is reasonably cheaper to get a girl for the night for what you would pay back home. The point is that if you start paying higher than market prices, it's just going to hurt the negotiating of your fellow mongers. I have never paid over 150.00 in Russia for an all nighter. In truth, even $150.00 is a little high. Think about it this way, very few Russians make 600.00 per year. Just keep that in mind. Thanks.
Zadig:
Thanks.
Tribunal:
I've always enjoyed the selections and even the atmosphere here. But my problem is that since I work on a cruise ship, the Tribunal pretty much is a "crew bar", so too many of the female crew members go there. So in the past I've usually lurked around the Tribunal until late, and waited until my fellow female crew members have gone. Or I've usually gone to Marstalls for my evening shopping. I think my next visit in a little over a week I'll probably give Metro a shot. But the Tribunal has always been great
Candyman Disco:
There was once a disco about twenty minutes away by taxi from the Tribunal, does anybody know if that's still around.
Happy hunting!
I also used the 3 escort services adveritised on the St. Pete Time, every girl showed up had nothing to do with the picture on the WEB and was several orders lower in quality of her appearance than the WEB picture. I just turned them away by going them the "taxi fee( $20)". I was afraid of causing any issue that might related to my safe stay in St. Petersburg. Never going to use escort servcie any more.
Steve
[QUOTE]Originally posted by stevehonc
I was about to leave as it was such a bad place when I saw a girl who was sitting there quietly. She is surely a model type girl, 9.5 on my book. I asked if she would go to hotel with me. She said yes and asked for $600 for whole night up to 6 am. As she is so beautiful and I used to 300pounds per hour in London, I siad yes and took her to my hotel. The service was OK. I got french kiss and BBJ. She only allowed one sex as there was only one condome in her purse. She gave me an additional hand job. Overall, it was an OK experience. However, I would do it again just because she was so beautiful.
Steve [/i][/QUOTE]
Shit! $600USD=18,258 Russian Rouble. If you go to www.publichouse.ru or www.dosug.ru, the price will range from $40 to $100/hr or $200 for all-nighter. Maybe some rich Brit dudes just occasionally pay $$$, but it still spoils the mongering market in Russia.
Steve-
I have to join in on the concern here with your $600 a night payment. Yes, it´s your money - but for the sake of the brotherhood, don´t ruin the country. It´s like Octatron said - it´s just going to hurt the negotiating power of your fellow mongers.
I´ve been in Buenos Aires now for over five weeks, and I get some ridiculous quotes from the chicas. I know from the quotes I get, and talking with some of them that I become friends with later, that there are a certain percentage of guys that pay the "stupid gringo prices". So, they just throw it out there at the start to see if you are one of the stupid ones. They openly laugh about it when talking, and it sure isn´t a feeling of respect that they have for these guys.
I´m not intending to flame you with my words, I just think you need to step back and reconsider next time - if for no other reason than a sense of concern for the guys that will follow on your trail. I love Russian women and intend to do some extensive mongering in the future. I hope it doesn´t become an overpriced destination. Thanks.
All, I'm sorry if i had paid too much and broke the "rule". I had spent some time looking for a stunner by going to the clubs, using escort service etc. and was very disappointed. When I saw this girl in the golden doll, she was so beautiful and quietly sitting there, I felt I just have to have her. I tried to negotiate a bit, but it didn't work. As a 20 minutes table dance in the clud is $40 (listed on menu), I thought it was impossible to pay less than $200 for a whole night.
I realized I probably paid a bit more and will negotiate harder in future. I was very tired at the time, and would want to go to bed with a real beautiful girl. I'm not too interested in having sex with a so so girl as I can easily get them for free anywhere. I hope you guy can agree with me that real beautiful girls do cost more. In addition, St. Pete is very expensive now by any standard. The Grand Hotel Europe I stayed was $400/night, plus 25% tax. The airfare between London and St. pete was $1200 for business class. After spending that much money travelling there, well...
I'll try to post her picture in the picture part of WSG.
Anyway, I understand where you all come from and will keep in mind.
Thanks.
Steve
Wow, that's sad that Nites closed down. It was a decent place. Two recommendations, but again it's been a year since I was in St. Pete. The first is an escort agency: Liza Escort Agency: http://www.liza-escort.spb.ru/ I used them a couple of times. The girl on the phone spoke decent English. But you do have to be careful if you are calling at peak times. The first time I used them I called way too late for a buddy and me. I asked for two young blondes that spoke OK English. The two that showed up were young enough, but neither was blonde and only one spoke passing English. So I had to settle for the one who spoke only Russian - I forget the name. She was OK, about a 6, but was not my type - Chechen and Georgian mix. However, her service soon had me forgetting that she wasn't my type. Started CBJ, then moved to mish and rear entry. Then she took off the cover and finished me into her mouth and swallowed!! She really got into the sex, also, and begged me to call her the next day. I didn't, but oh well. The second girl I had from Liza was an ATF, her name was Mila. Young, thin, beautiful. Absolutely fantastic service but no oral finish when on the job. The best thing was that she stayed the whole night even though I only paid for 2 hours. She ended up with me for 2 days of sex and shopping. Great weekend. Unfortunately, I don't see her picture any more on the website. Oh yeah, by the way the pictures on their website of these two girls were dead on. So you might want to check them out.
Fellow Mongers!
I will be studying at SP University for the months of september and october. Besides my prior admonisions about getting caught by the bridges, only getting money from ATMs and that the SPG cops are NOT there to help you (see my prior posts) I am wondering what has been going on since my last visit a year ago. My worries about the overpriced girls in the hotel bar and the stupid foreigners who are willing to pay over the going rate and screw it up for everyone else are frequently echoed by others.
Have the strip bars changed in the last year? (Maximus, Golden Dolls, etc.) They used to be WAY overpriced and had women picking at you like vultures. My only recomendations for newcomers to SPG is to go to Tribunal or Marstals bar and talk extensivley to any women you take back to your hotel/apartment. The prices are MUCH better and the women will try harder for you.
For anyone staying longer than 2 weeks in one city in Russia I would recommend renting an apartment for much less and you don't have to deal with hotel security every time you get lucky (paid or unpaid). All you have to do is find a Russian expat travel agent in your local city(There are a lot of them) Your own apartment will simplify alot of things, just make sure you are SOUTH OF THE RIVER NEVA!
The women in Russia are the most straight-forward women I have ever met. ANY foreigner will be met with interest and this can be taken to your advantage if played right! Good luck to my fellow mongers!
one word MAGRIB
on nevski
But one girl asked for 1000$ for the night! normally $100 ish
Dusty:
Besides laughing in her face. How was the talent in Magrib, many girls? Is it more of a strip club or more of a bar/disco environment?
Thanks.
Magrib has no strippers. It has a restaurant in the front, open all day. At night there is a club featuring mainly techno/house/pop stuff. Good sound system. There is always some kind of a show but always clothed. It is a bit more upmarket than Marstall and IMHO the girls are more attractive.
Laugh in the girl''s face? Never, she was very attractive and more than a little drunk.
Across69,
I will soon fly to Petersburg and stay there around 3 months. I wanted to ask you about accomodation. Did you manage to find a flat downtown? At which cost? I have heard that it is very , very expensive to rent a flat in the center of St-Petersburg.
across69,
Where do you intend to live in Petersburg? I will soon fly to Petersburg and stay there around 3 months. I have heard that it is very , very expensive to rent a flat in the center of St-Petersburg. Maybe do you know some ways to find cheaper accomodation in this city for long term residence?
Steve:
Thanks for providing your reports, these are all of interest to WSG readers, as beyond the regular posters, there are a lot of passive readers who just gather info from the sight.
Allow me to comment on your reports, as I think they are fairly representative of first time mongerers in Russia:
1) Grand Hotel Kempinski: You thought about asking the girls working in the shops for sex... these girls are often very beautiful but are not working girls. You MIGHT get a date with one if you are lucky, but unless you are Cassanova or can offer her something more than dinner and a one night stand I think your chances are quite low. I have taken out girls who worked at hotels but usually haven't gotten very far with them because they were totally into having a (very) serious relationship and I gave up, figuring they weren't worth the time and money (meals, gits etc.) I would have to invest. Sure you could lie to them and probably get into their pants, but for some reason I balked at this. If I was looking for a wife or a serious GF I might go this route, but I'm not. I'm sure a lot of them do end up marrying businessmen...or just being their girlfriends for a while, but they will be expensive one way or the other. Generally Russian girls are more accessible than a lot of the Western girls we are used to, but they are defintely not all turning tricks. The really beautiful are in high demand and are getting much harder to impress than they were a few years back as local Russian giys acquire more money and spoil the babes with gifts, entertainment, holidays etc.
2) Marstalls: It is dead at 11pm, especially in the summer. Not really even worth going to before midnight, or even later. This is true of almost all Russian clubs. At places that cater to expats, the prostitutes usually don't show up until midnight at the earliest. At some places this is club policy.
3) Golden Dolls: Although the quality of girl is still high, IMHO the club has lost some of its appeal. The girls are increasingly aggressive about their tips and you can easily spend as much on drinks and lap dance tips as you would on a whole night of sex elsewhere. But for first timers wanting to see beautiful Russian women up close and personal and feel them up, it should be seen. My first trips there were great and left my star-struck, the recent ones were not so memorable. I just ended up leaving extremely horny and $100 lighter, seriously taking a chunk out of my mongering budget! :)
4) Strip clubs: ...are a lousy place to pick up working girls as they are extremely overpriced. Beyond the fact that $600 is completely ridiculous it sounds like you got average service. I don't want to detract from your experience...the temptation to fuck something perfect is nearly irresistable, but $200-300 would have gotten you an equally stunning hotel/call girl... and even those prices are high. A girl in the 7-8 category should never cost more than $70-150. And price is not related to quality of service. Most guys on their first trip spend silly money, but those who read this forum should know the basic price structure and stick to it. I haven't spent more than $100 for an all-nighter in 3 years and would only consider spending $150 if she was ungodly hot and I was going to get an all.nighter with all the extras. To make you feel better, on my first Moscow trip several years back I spent $100 on a full nude but no sex private dance in Dolls. She was model quality, but I was still truly idiotic. Live and learn.
Dr_skank,
Thanks for your comments.
I also tried the escorts services and the results were very disappointing. As mentioned in a seperated report, all three (Liza, Egoist, Elliegirl) sent me girls had nothing to do with the pictures on their WEBs and with qualities several orders lower.
I have no intention to spend more money if I don't have to. I understand authors of several comments complainning I spent too much and all said a real pretty one can be had for less than $150 in St. pete. However, no body provided real clue as where to get the real pretty one for that kind of money. Unless that kind of information is available, lots of people are still going to over pay.
Steve.
i have just returned from a short trip to saint petersburg.
up until a couple of years ago i was a regular visitor to golden dolls on nevsky. i was often to be found enjoying a private session and had no problem tipping the girls. the club was comfortable and the girls usually had a good attitude. i have recommended this place for many years. i publically apologise to anyone who has been, on my recommendation, whilst the place has been under the current management!
golden dolls has completely changed...
last night i visited the place for the first time since the refurbishment. it can not be recommended under any circumstances. here is the story...
i arrived at about 1.00 am saturday night/sunday morning. a time that should have been hopping.
i entered, the lower floor is now closed, there is now a cash desk there, and worryingly an atm! the entry was 750 roubles ($25). they claimed to have no change and wanted to keep the 50rbl balance, on querying they offered to repay on exit. (first warning!)
i ascended the stairs to the new floor, it is a cold hard place of steel, tile, uv light and glass. i was one of perhaps three clients, all dispersed through a much larger room. (warning two!)
a hostess took me to a seat by one of the runways, where a girl was wriggling in a desultory fashion. the previous enthusiasm completely absent. (warning three and my enthusiasm is also waning!)
a couple of girls approached me and sat with me. they were, by local standards just 'average plus' i can enjoy the company of more attractive girls almost anywhere in town. they instantly started to hustle drinks. i never buy drinks instantly and so refused, within seconds they had made themselves absent, never to be seen again.
feeling a little exposed, i retreated to a booth, worryingly it was no treserved. they have so few clients that they dont even bother to save these for the high rollers any more. my previously ordered drink arrived, cost was now well out of line with even expensive clubs (half litre draft was 255rbl, normal high prices might reach 120 rbl!) i proffered 500 rbl, the waitress disappeared and did not return with my change. i subsequently had to ask another waitress for my change, when she returned, she had the gall to ask for a tip. (what for? not actually stealling my money?) i did not tip and she retired miffed.
ok how many more warnings do i need? (actually just one! read on!)
next a youngish masked girl aproached and gave a half hearted little performance for a few seconds and asked for a 'little gift'. i offered 50rbl, she said 100rbl was minimum and refused my money. at this point i rose, to leave, leaving my beer almost untouched, my exit was blocked by a girl claiming to half been the girl dancing as i entered, she sure looked different though... i peeled off a note, coincidentally a 100rbl bill and left. i had to wait for my 50 rbl change whilst being overlooked by the door monkeys.
now, i am not rich, but i used to think nothing of dropping $60 or more, after the entry fee, in an hour or so. more if i enjoyed a private session. the place sucks big style now. the ambience of comfort and friendliness has been totally destroyed by the attitude of all the staff i met. golden dolls is now an expensive, but fatally flawed con job. i can not imagine who this place now caters for. prettier girls are availble for free, or moderate cost up at magrib, taking a willing lovely into a private booth there beats the nuts off golden dolls any time. it is hard to enjoy a place that constantly reminds the patron that the management and staff have no respect for him. a place like this can only survive by making the patrons feel wanted and warm, no matter how imaginary.
in my opinion, anyone who goes to this place having read this report will be going because he does not believe me, or because he is an eternal optimist!
avoid at all costs, there are much better places to spend money on make believe affection and to stroke the smooth flesh of a willing nubile!
can somebody tell us about maximus? a strip club down the road. i understand the owners are the same as magrib and so i expect that the ambience is first rate, if costly...
Dusty!
Sorry man, but you had EXACTLY the same experience I had a year ago at Golden dolls (see my 6/2002 posts). Maxiumus was pretty much the same expeirence as GD in a marbled, new wrapper.
Where is Magrib, exactly, by the way?
The ONLY worthwhile strip club last summer (2002) was Papa Kolorado way out on Valievsky island. Only for the adventurous and careful with the bridges!
Traveler22,
Here are some of the dozens of web sites I found:
[url]http://www.petersburg-lodging.com/apartments.htm[/url]
[url]http://www.lodgingspb.com/apartments.php[/url]
[url]http://www.petersburg-apartments.com/apartment-vas.htm[/url]
but find a local Russian travel agent (in your city!) to get a real deal!
Also, as long as you are south of the river, the metro, taxis and regular citizens cars are cheap and easily available.
1. Avoid Golden Dolls and Maximus strip club unless you are very rich and like to be hassled
2. Russian women seem to like foreigners, so getting lucky( for free) here seems to be pretty easy.
3. Marstals and tribunal bar late at night ( after 1am) are great places to find pros and non-pros
4. Never pay more than $150 for the WHOLE NIGHT with ANY girl you meet at a bar
5. Let the woman do all the talking with your hotel security and be prepared to pay $2-$10 hush money
6. There are Pros in almost all SPG hotels but they are usually way overpriced
7. You can avoid the whole hotel/security issue by renting an apartment
8. Taxis are cheap, so use them late at night. Remember the police are NOT there to help you!
9. ALWAYS pay attention to the drawbridge schedule (with a safety margin) if you are going to cross the Neva
10. ATM/ Money machines are everywhere and you avoid the risks of carrying a lot of money. Usually get an okay rate and you don't have to deal with the money exchange assholes!
Steve,
Although St.P has an overwhelming number of non-pro non-prostitute beauties strolling the streets, IMHO opinion it is more difficult to find the pro super stunners in St.Pete as compared to Moscow, where if you are willing to pay "visiting Japanese business executive" prices of $200+ you can always go to Night Flight and find what you are looking for. For the short term infrequent visitor who has neither the time or insider knowledge to find the same quality girl for half the price, this is a very good option. I don't go there myself as I do follow my own personal rule not to pay more than $100-150 tops, but for those in your situation...and there are very many of you, this is absolutely ok and you aren't ruining any market prices by doing so since Night Flight is a seperate entity in itself and $200-300 is the market price there, also dictated by the club wishing to stay exclusive and a magnet for businessmen.
If any one knows of a surefire solution to this dilemna in St.P, please post, as Steve isn't the first guy to feel the selection at Marstalls/Tribunal and the call-girls wasn't what he was looking for. For me, I really have (almost) always been happy with choices at Marstalls or Tribunal, but you will have to go late. For business travellers I realize this is a hassle, especially if they have to work the next day. Otherwise you can go for the hotel girls and bargain down to $200, which they will do. They may go lower to $150, but they also may not, as sooner or later they probably will find someone to pay their $200+ price.
Dusty,
Yeah, Golden Dolls has gone downhill. Haven't been in it since the renovation, but based on your report and my pre-renovation visits there, it is not worth my time. Too bad, it used to rock. I think as the economic situation in Moscow and St.Pete improves, the quality of girls willing to work as strippers or in the horizontal profession is waning somewhat. Just my impression, maybe wrong.
What kind of "private booths" are you talking about at Magrib...it is just a disco, right? Or do you mean just places to sit secluded?
Across69,
Thanks for your ten commandments, I pretty much agree with what you say.
An 11th commandment might be to try to meet "normal" Russian girls. Even if you don't get laid (although you very likely might) the experience is rewarding.
And a 12th commandment would be to learn a little Russian at least. If you gain exposure to the normal populace, you chances for getting laid for free will explode.
And another tip that works for me, when paying for play, take the girl out for a drink first at a place other than the one you picked her up at. Get to know her (provided you have time). It'll likely improve the subsequent chemistry and sex.
Magrib is just across the street from the Nevsky Palace Hotel, which is often erroneously called the Sheraton. It is in fact a Corinthian Hotel, as Sheraton sold the place.
Magrib has booths along the side of the main room, these are 'reserved' until you either pay some money, or are recognised as a regular spender, in a party. There is seating just behind the main floor, for diners, usually plenty of space to snuggle down on comfy seats. If all else fails there is the front room mainly for diners and dinkers, good for conversation,, but a little open for much else. There is not, aa far as I know, any private rooms. What there is suffices for most purposes though.
across69,
Thanks for your answer but unfortunately I am not a rich man! I will stay 3 months in Petersburg and I just can't afford to pay between 00 and 200$ dayly as it is asked on those websites!
As far as I undestood you intend to live 2 months in this city. It means that you are ready to pay minimum 6000$ just for the accomodation. It appears to be just out of my league.
According to me the best solution is to rent a room in a family for 100-150 $ downtown. It is not very practical for the girls but I really don't see other possibilities for long term residence in Petersburg.
Traveler22,
The websites I gave you were only for example! Some sites have prices from $35 dollars a night. If you stay for 3 months you can definately find cheaper apartments. Haggleing for prices is okay in Russia, to a certain degree.
There are DOZENS of web sites to help you find cheap apartments in SPG. Like I said, the cheapest way to find a centraly located, cheap apartment is to OPEN YOUR LOCAL PHONE BOOK AND CALL A TRAVEL AGENT WHO IS A FORMER RUSSIAN CITIZEN!
The least expensive way to stay in SPG is to rent a room with a family. Even if it for only a couple of weeks and then find an apartment once you are there. Few Russians can afford to pay more than $300 a month rent, even in downtown SPG.
Behind the Kazaan cathedral, VERY convenient to Marstals and Tribunal bar, is the university dorms/hotel. You can stay there for around $14 a night. This is the place if you need a last minute place to get laid, even if you live with a family. Just let the woman (Pro or non-pro) do the talking at the front desk!
The ONLY good thing about the damn bridges is that it is a common excuse to say you were stuck on the wrong side of the river and could not get home for the night, if questioned.
Finally, There are several youth hostels in SPG. Here is the address for the main one:
[url]www.ryh.ru[/url]
You do not need to be a "youth" to stay at a hostel. In most youth hostels (worldwide) you can usually only stay for a specific period of time (several days to a few weeks) until you must leave for a brief period.
I have stayed in an apartment, completely unrefurbished for $400 for a month. The 'local' price would have been about $200. For this I was staying near Mariinsky THeatre, about 20 minutes from Nevsky, on foot, or 50-100 RBl by cab and 6Rbl by bus. Problem is that these cheaper places are not too pretty, the agents do not speak English and customer service is an unknown concept.
If I were you, I would arrange a homestay and recruit your hosts to help find you an apartment. Good prices will only come with longer term rentals in excess of a month and will become more difficult in the winter as apartment owners return to their homes from their Dacha.
Here is an alternative that we do not often talk about...
On this trip I met girls on the street or at street bars and cafes. Patio Pizza was good as was the Bistro adjacent to Magrib. On the street, the girls will often give direct eye contact be fast, indicate with a flick of the head for her to join you, if not interested you just carry on walking, or eating.
Here's the skinny...
Girls have to pay 'rent' to use the hotels, clubs and bars. On the street the same girls pay no rent. If they keep a low profile thay are also welcome in places like Patio Pizza, Planet Sushi etc. The girls will be alone or in pairs, usually very attractive, but not the most attractive women around. They will be looking around to see potential clients. The going rate for a night is about $100. Be nice and they will be yours for several days for just a 'top up fee'. Downside is that there is no control on quality - if they steal from you, it is tough luck. In the clubs, the girls are kept in line by the security. If you accuse a girl of theft and it is upheld. then she will get a 'customer service lesson' that will cause her to be unavailable for work for a few weeks :(
Rent in clubs:
Marstall $100 per week, this is why the same girls are there every night.
Magrib $30 per client, encourages regulars to go for short times and amateurs to provide variety.
Tribunal IIRC $20 per client.
Tschaika $10 per client, but the same three girls have been working there since God was in short trousers.
Most attractive girls are in Magrib, but cost is $150 or so, duration variable. Marstall has the old regulars, been shagging them for the last three years or more, cost $100, usually for the night. Two girls for perhaps $150
In most clubs you will find girls who do not want to pay rent, they will often be a bit cheaper, in Marstall perhaps $50 for the night, but older, they will also want to appear to be a 'girlfriend' to avoid the suspicions of the door staff.
BTW, you can get the hotel girls down to about $150 for the night, their target is to get $100 per night, the $50 goes to security. If you want to pay $500 then you are allowed to be rough, as one girl put it to me, 'he offered $500, so I knew that I would not be able to shit properly for a couple of days or sit for a week'. She took the money knowing that it would mean that she would not need to work for the next couple of weeks. Most girls do not want to work every night. (You don't think they all ENJOY it do you?)
dusty_bin,
Great report, thanks for the info. I was aware of the principal of "rent" and knew that hotel girls paid $50, but never knew the details. Thanks, helps put perspective on things. Do you know by any chance what policy is at CF and NF in Moscow?
Marstalls:
One of my beefs on Marstalls is that the girls don't change much... not only are the same ones there all week, but I recognize some of the same girls every time I am there... sometimes I'll see the same girl months or even years later! Occasionally freelancers come in, but there quality doesn't seem to be overly high IMHO.
Next time in St.Pete I'll look around Magrib more, I've never been there alone and had a chance to look for women, I had assumed it was a normal bar/disco with very little pro action.
Outside of Marstalls a taxi driver offered me girls for $100, showing me photographs that were so old and ragged they were obviously not of the real girl. I wouldn't care if the picture was fake if he delivered something cute anyway. I realize that normally this is hit and miss at best and often an utter disappointment, but am just curious if anyone has tried this?
Does anyone have any info about places to find Pros, strip clubs or last minute cheap hotels for getting laid, on the Petrograd (north side) side of the river?
I know nothing of the Moscow scene, but find it hard to believe that, in respect of rent, it would be any different.
One of the reasons for the same girls working at Marstalls for years is the chargig structure, it encourages regular attendance, $100 per week is cheap compared to $30 per client, assuming that she is regular. The per client fee encourages girls to come and go. For me both systems have their advantages. I get the feeling that Marstall is aimed at the expats who are new in town and who will therefore not know that the girls have been there since the flood. Magrib is a place for guys who know a little more and so variety is needed. Later we graduate to Rossi, Absinthe etc. and find a girlfriend...
across69-
Across the river...
Scary place! Here be dragons...
Seriously, I have only once stayed on that side of the water. It was a big mistake. I was in (IIRC) the Hotel Vyborksaya. A very cheap place a couple of minutes walk from the metro.
It had one redeeming feature, had I but known soon enough.
There was a brothel on the fourth floor.
I only found it on my last day as I was sitting in the cafeteria on that floor (have you guys noticed the tendency for cheap Russian hotels to have things like shops and beauty parlours and cafes spread through their floors...) waiting to go back home when I noted that there was a significant number of lightly clad girls wandering in and out getting cups of hot water for their tea.
As the hotel was largely populated by students, I am not sure as to the target market for this enterprise.
I can offer no more assitance than this. If you possibly can, get a place nearer to the centre, you will be rewarded.
Hi,
I am thinking of renting an apartment in Vasilievsky Island district.
Can anyone tell me if this is a good part of town for the night life and wg acton
Or is it the wrong side of the river?
Thanks,
Phil
Wrong side of the river!
You need to stay in the southern part of the city, if you are on Vassilevsky Island to save money, just rent a place a little further out of town to the south.
Vassilievsky has many pleasant areas, but nightlife, as far as foreigners and newbies is concerned is concentrated around the city centre, the only well known club on Vassilievsky, that I know of is Plaza and I never went because of the bloody bridges!
If you are going in winter there is less of a problem, because when the Neva freezes, the bridges stay down IIRC during November-March.
Thanks Dusty-Bin for the info.
Money is not a problem, the apartment I had in mind is furnished with antiques (a bit like me).
I was also thinking of Moscow but the apartment I wanted is occupied by a guy called (Putin) and they would not kick him out for the weeks I wanted.
But seriously I look at the apartment then what’s going on in the district.
This is my first time in Russia I will look south of the river on your advice. Also, does St. Petersburg have the line-up like Moscow that I have heard about
Regards,
Phil
Hi, I will be making a big tour around Eastern Europe, Russia.
planning to stay in any other town that might be worth a visit. I am looking to get in touch with some locals who can also speak English or German, who have good communicative skills trying to make some money or find a new well paid job. Please get in touch with me or perhaps you can give me a referal of someone trustworthy who might be able to help me out in some of those towns finding some young girls, uni students, semi pros etc,
puxilove@hotmail.com
Moneytree,
The forum is flooded by your message. I don't think that it is the best way to ask some help. You should put adds in local newspapers.
Just noticed new feature that allows to post picture. Here is the girl I met about a month ago, paid very high price that made a lot of people here unhappy.
Steve
Hello!
I´m going to St.Petersburg in September and I´ve never been there before. I visited Tallinn some months ago and I really liked all private apartments that was quite easy to find cause of this forum. Is there a similar system in St.P. Cause I can´t bring girls to my hotell.
Another thing was that it was quite cheap to go to apartments in Tallin. I hope for the best. Glad for all kind of advise.
And many thanks for this forum.
I haven't seen many people starting using the photo function. By posting one more pic of the gir I met in St. Pete, I hope people will follow.
Steve
Hello guys!
Please tell me, why you are discussing only about girls in 2..3 bars and un 2..3 hotels. I live here and I can tell you that here is lot of other working girls and lot of brothels and lot of other places to have a good girls for reasonable prices!
Best regards,
Andy
What was that Andy78?
Do you keep some secrets from us other members?
Do you have some addresses and telephone numbers to give to us; do you have in store some informative reports to post ?
Come on and tell us what you have, please. If not please shut up.
Hello Andy!
I have not been in St P. before. Therfore I would be very glad if you could tell me more about the brothels you mentioned. Please.
Best from Peter
Hi all,
Will be in St.Pete next week and regrettably I will be staying at the Hotel Oktyabryskaya... not my choice, but out of solidarity to a biz partner on his first trip I am staying in the same hotel as he is. The hotel is ok if you just want to sleep there and have a shower in the morning, but usually I stay in private apartments for all the right reasons.
I know about the girls in the little cafe there... not too impressive if you ask me and not a bargain in price either.
Anybody had luck bringing girls from other places, such as Marstalls, back to the hotel?
Is it the standard let the girl do the talking + upgrade to double room?
[quote]Originally posted by Musketeer
[b]What was that Andy78?
Do you keep some secrets from us other members?
Do you have some addresses and telephone numbers to give to us; do you have in store some informative reports to post ?
Come on and tell us what you have, please. If not please shut up.[/b][/quote]
Musketeer,
And just what have [b]YOU[/b] offered in the way of information on this board?
-Uncle Otto
Dr. Skank,
I stayed in the hotel Oktabryska 1 year ago (see june 2002 reports). I did take a girl from the little cafe in the hotel and it was a horrible experience (see 6/28/02 post for the shocking details). The other girl I mention in this post is Olga and she came with me to the hotel twice from Marstals and I let her do all the talking. It only took $5 hush money for security to get her in. No room upgrade was needed.
I am, by the way, living in SPG for a few months right now. I went to Marstal's to see if the rumors about the women never changing are true, and they are. Olga was there, looking 5 years older than when I saw her in june 2002. She quoted me the "return customer" price of 120 euro for the night. I declined and I am looking for a Russian girlfriend (for free) for the time I am here.
With a little Russain Language practice these my cold, dark nights will be a bit warmer for sure. If not, the University Hotel is only 2 blocks from Marstals, behind Kazaan cathedral and is very understanding of last minute emergencies. The are few tourists here now, so prices should go down a bit I think. If anyone is looking.
Also, Colorado Otets (Papa colorado) ( in the middle of Vasilevsky island) still has a 50-100 ruble ($1.50 - $3) a girl/lap dance tip and 300 ruble entry to the strip club in the back. This time I stayed all night Saturday and went out to the regular dance floor to see the same strippers (with a couple of guys) give a surprisingly good cabaret/ topless floor show.
They still only get topless in the back room and they have the same crappy chairs with arms that they did last year. The girls are excelent dancers even if the the lap dances seem a little more distant now than they did last year. They have gotten the same wierd sex menu that I hated at golden dolls, with prices for god knows what (in Russian) from 500-4000 rubles (about $16- $130)
Be careful not to get too friendly with the locals because I made friends with some couples at my table ( in the dance club part) and got about 6 shots of vodka served to me over a 3 hour period. The getting home part that night is kind of a blur to me now.
I am not in the hobbyist mood these days but if I come across any good info I will post it here Good Luck!
across69 -
Colorado Otets: Is this the place with the Colorado landscape scene painted on the wall just behind the dance floor? (that just so happens to have a saquerro cactus in it, only found in southern Arizona, I think)? I went there many times with a girl I met on one of the web-sites in the summer of 2002 and New Years 2003. It's definitely off-the-track as far as tourists are concerned. Very small and cozy locals place that I would never have found by myself. Like you said, entertaining shows.
It didn't strike me as a great pick-up spot, but then I was always there with company. It seems that most of the people come in groups or as couples. Owned by Azerbajanis I'm pretty sure. Did you find it to be okay as a pick-up spot for regular girls?
Across 69,
Thanks for the info and good luck to you too in your pursuit of feminine warmth in the St.Pete winter! For me St.P isn't a great mongering town or perhaps I just haven't explored all the options well enough. There are certainly enough beauties there, so maybe the pursuit of real girlfriends is more rewarding.
In any case any tips from anybody regarding St.Pete are appreciated, as beyond hotel girls, Marstalls and Tribunal, internet and escort services and salons the action seems difficult to access.
OttoGraham
Stay tuned and you will find reports from Musketeer in the weeks to come, at least in the Baltic countries and Russian pages.
If I had known that the holy Uncle Otto descendes from Heaven to condemn the living and the dead I would originally have commented Andy78 posting with a few more words, something like this::
Andy78, what kind of report was that?
I have newly found these excellent WSG pages and plan to be a contributor myself, have already started with a few postings. What I value and what I can see as a rule is that no chat style is allowed here. You know what I mean? You do not find this kind of exhange here:
“I might have a nice story to tell you fellows”
“Oh, really ?”
“Yes,indeed, wanna hear it ?”
“Um,oh yeah”
“Nah, I don’t feel like it”.
“Come on man, don’t tease us”
No, no. Chatting is one thing and intelligent reporting is another thing. I, with my few postings so far but as time goes by surely more to come on Baltic Countries and Russia, am not the right person to give you this finger waving but I could not hold myself.
Sorry for this a bit unfriendly text of mine, I confess that as I am writing this I am not in the best of moods Now let’s hear your actual report, let your words flow."
Jak,
That's the very same Papa Co. You are dead on about the cactus. Funny. It's sad to hear that things are worse there now. This used to be one of the best spots for good, relatively cheap fun. You might try talking to the administrator next time. As I recall, she spoke decent English. But then again, I went on a weeknight a year and a half ago (March). I think that timing may be the key, hit them on an off night/time of the year if possible.
I am going to be in the area in the January/February time frame. Does anybody have an idea where the boat will be at this point? I hope it is still operating.
Thanks.
Zadig
On my last visit to St Petersburg in the autumn of 2002 I had the pleasure (?) to try one of the streetwalkers on the Nevsky Prospekt strip starting from Ploschad Vosstanya up to Ploschad Alexandra Nevskogo. Some of you must have seen them: all year round there are lonesome girls or girls in pairs standing along the street. Dressed and looking so that everyone knows they are working girls. A friend of mine was at that time renovating a flat along Nevsky Prospekt near Moscow hotel and he knew well many of the regular girls, having used their services. Well, he is some kind of a sex maniac. I had no intention to copy him but was curious to know what it is all about.
It all is organized of course. You cannot work there independetly from the mafia. Most of the customers stop their cars, have a chat with the girls and leave with or without the girl. It is mostly hourly business: 1 or 2 h. If the customer does not want or cannot take the girl along the girls' pimps have rented them apartments nearby - within walking distance anyway.
Price per 1 hour was 1.000,- roubles = USD 34,- and 2 hours 1.500,- roubles = USD 50,-. The same price wheather in the girls' place and in customers' place.
Well, the girls are not the best-looking. You could hear from their voice and see from their face that they do not work in the highest steps of St Pete prostitution. Staying on their feet all night, week after week. The business seemed to start at about 21.00. I took one girl to my friend's apartment ( he lived in the same one that he was renovating, very dusty and all) for 2 hours. Had sex, nothing special there. There was no glamour, no enthusiasm, the girl was fed up with me, with men, with everything. All in all not one of my finest hours.
This was one year ago, I plan to go again in December this year - and plan to talk to the girls and hear what is new - propably the only thing new will be higher prices.
I wanted to point out to everyone the ability to send Private Messages using the software on this site has now been activated. It works well.
However, there is no default "On" setting. You need to physically turn it on by following the instructions on the site.
-Uncle Otto
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I'll be staying at the Kempinski Grand Hotel Europe in sunny St. Pete's in December so I won't want to travell too far. Is there anything in the general area that folk can recoomend. Also, if there is streetwalker action in the area, does anyone have experience with bringing ladies in? Are there any SP focused websites for working girls?
My big challenge is that I cannot be seen with the lady and I will be travelling with collegues. Will the girl come in on her own? The big if here is that if you give them some money to get past the guards, what keeps them from just taking the money nd not coming to your room?
Any suggestions? I promise a full reportwith fiscal details around the holidays!
There are streetwalkers on Nevski. Some are very attractive. There are two areas. At night you will see them on Stary Nevsky, walking towards the Hotel Moscow. I have no knowledge of these girls.
The other posse is further down, you will see them wandering around, between Fontanka and Griboedova, possibly a little further. In decent weather you will see girls sitting outside the bars and cafes. These are often girls that might also work the clubs and hotels but don't want to pay 'rent'.
I had good, if weird experiences that I won't go into here. ne became my 'girlfriend for a few days, lovely girl. I gave her $50 per day. I look forward to seeing her and her friend when I return. Perhaps she will still have the phone she stole from me so I can call her...
Near the Europa, you have Marstall, on Canal Griboedova, mentioned many times elsewhere and Magrib, on Nevski, opposite the Nevski Palace Hotel. My preference is Magrib, notwithstanding the price. You could look at a place called , IIRC Rossiya, went only once, should have gone more. At the bottom of Nevski is the old favourite Tribunal, now under new, Russian and greedy ownership. It used to be fun, is now a bit seedy and expensive.
Avoid Golden Dolls. It is now an expensive rip off. I hope that they have to close down! Maximus, however is not a bad bet apparently, it gets good reviews from friends who have been, although I have not.
As to taking girls back, ask the girl. She will know what she can do. If you take a girl from a club, in general you can rely upon her honesty. In general, I believe you can in general also. ( Ihad one girl, to whom I gave money, for some reason we got separated, she spent days tracking me down and arranging to meet up again, one of the most memorable women of my long summer trip.
I don't know current rules about hotels, but it has been my expereince, thatthte more expensive the hotel, the more discreet and accommodating they tend to be.
I just read Musketeers post, boy he picks the bad 'uns! Tallinn and now Saint Pete. He was shooting at the girls on Stary Nevski though.
Reading his post reminded me of an expereince a few years ago, in the dead of winter. I was staying in the Hotel Moscow and walking back one night from Marstall, a long walk but I wanted to... There are a few all night 'produktiy', basically grocery and grog shops. In the winter the girls go and huddle in them and when a client comes along, out they go to take a look and sell themselves. Anyway, this night I was by now a little cold, the walk thus far was about 20 minutes in bloody cold snow. I went into one of these shops to buy something and to get a little warm. On my way out, in the doorway, I saw a pimp, with his girl. He obviously thought she was holding back some money... He had her skirt raied up to her waist and was fumbling around in her panties against her vigorous protests. I decided that for the moment I was blind and just walked away, an slightly unnerving sight though.
Dusty, if there are SW on Nevsky, they are VERY discreet. I was there several times last winter, walked many times up and down Nevsky in the area you describe, and didn't see anybody I could characterize as being on the program.
Maybe I didn't notice because I didn't have my hooker radar on.
-Uncle Otto
Well, perhaps it helps that I was there for a month and also that I was approached by one of the girls in a bistro next to Magrib. We became quite friendly and went out on a couple of dates. Yes, real boy and girl dates.
She was definately working though and she did point out some of the other girls and I met a couple of her working friends. One time we were due to meet, I called her and she put me off for a few minutes as she was as she put it 'talking to a friend' as I walked past her she was talking to a big middle aged German guy, discussing terms. A few minutes later and she was back with me, terms not having been agreed.
I also got overly friendly smiles from some girls who were otherwise looking a little 'lonely'. Late at night, on the Nevski/Grib bridge you will sometimes see a couple of extravagantly gorgeous girls, they work in a 'salon' just down Grib, on the left hand side on the way to the CHurch of the Blood. Don't know the address. I always fiured they were drumming up business on a slack night.
I agree with dusty's assessments on street action. One of the best places to meet semi-pros is outside of the Kanal Griboyedova metro station. Another place with potential is in the Quo Vadis Internet cafe'.
Also, I have had one very negative experience with the Stary Nevski area. One of my friends insisted that we try the "real" street action. We asked a gypsy cab driver to procure for us. We ended up with a couple of very marginal, obviously addicted dyevushki. I wish that I could say that I didn't partake, but the Flagman took over.
Maximus is only marginally better than GDolls, IMHO. I met one decent girl there. But my friend, who went with her friend, found out that they were heavily into using and selling coke. Bad news in Russia. So I never went out with her. One last bit of advice, FWIW, is to avoid Club Sahara (since Hollywood Nights closed, this may be a moot point since it was associated with that lovely port of call). The dancers there aren't as hot as at Dolls, but are as greedy. Leave them for the clueless touristi.
Thanks Zadig and Dusty!
Dusty's reference to the Salon is something I did not understand. What is the deal with salons? My preference is a nice bathing, massage, and negotiated special services and hope to try a few Banyas in Moscow. Are salons similar in nature? What do prices run in these places and does anyone have any recommendations for such vendor around St. Pete's?
Ogman
My surmise as that the girls came from a place nearby that is signed as an 'Eros Centre', if I remember correctly, it is on the same street that I have seen elsewhereas being a brothel, often called a salon.
I know nothing of prices, service etc.
In fact I could be entirely wrong and the girls might just have been waiting for their fathers to return home from work and walking back to their apartment together....
I don't think so though!
[QUOTE] Originally posted by OttoGraham
[i]Dusty, if there are SW on Nevsky, they are VERY discreet. I was there several times last winter, walked many times up and down Nevsky in the area you describe, and didn't see anybody I could characterize as being on the program.[/i][/QUOTE]
Hold it, hold it...wait a minute! Am I hearing this right? Dya-dya Otto is on the prowl for SW's? Will wonders never cease!
Stravinsky
No, not on the prowl. But one can see what's on offer when the Hooker Radar is turned on. Generally I am attunded to looking at any good-looking woman I pass on the street.
If you fellows go to St. Pete and are half-way decent looking you should be prepared for lots of strong eye-to-eye contact from women in a way that never is done Stateside. It can be unnerving, or pleasant, or both! :D
-Uncle Otto
Otto
I want you job. You really get around - Buenos Aires, St. Petersburg
ChicagoBoy, don't miss my reports about Prague, Czech Republic and Kosice, Slovakia, either! I also occasionally report on the London, England board as well....... ;)
-Uncle Otto
Hello gentlemen,
I am planning 3 weeks in St Petersburg in January and am researching options. Already set with an apartment now looking for female company. I have found several brothels, each with a few girls, along with quite a few independents in apartments. Any one have experiences of this type and/or prices? I have not seen much on the sauna's in St Petes, any suggestions? or thoughts on clubs for non pro females. Sounds like a man might have a little fun in St Petes if he is not careful. Thank you for the help. I will post a report when I return.
Dindle
I used to stay at the Europa and the bar scene seems to have women walking in and out. The hotel is discrete but the security guys certainly will ask for commissions.
Years ago, the Europa had a great disco/bar on the top floor, where expats and very expensive Russian women would congregate. I remember one woman asking for $300 for an hour once. I was so dumbfounded I didn't know what to say. Many of the women wanted to stay over a weekend and charged around $300 for that. Maybe it was the great showers.
Here is a very interesting way fing the regular Russian Pros. If you speak Intermediate to Good Russian you can go directly to this site:
http://omen.ru/love/poiski.htm
For those of you like me who only speak a little Russian first open this site:
http://babelfish.altavista.com/ and paste the omen.ru/love/poiski.htm link into the web site translator.
Most of these women probably speak little or no English but since the prices, phone number and sometimes even the metro stations they live at are there you should be able to at least meet them outside a station and sort figure out business. The prices per hour, 2 hours and Night are at the bottom of each page and there are women there for EVERY taste (old, young, fat, big breasts, 2 girls, BSDM, Anal, Etc.)
The site has info for all of Russia but only St. Petersburg and Moscow seem to have alot of entries.
The only this I can say is that I have NOT been to any of the women here as I have a new Russian lady friend. If she does not work out then I will happy to give my first hand experience with the above site.
The only cautionary rule here is that if someone wants to rob you going to thier apartment and having 5 big Russian guys mug you wouldn't be hard so meeting them at a metro station deciding to go to their place or yours is up to you.
Also, for anyone who speaks almost no Russian and can still manage to meet the girl a print out in Russian of her website with the prices clearly on the bottom will prevent "Gringo price hikes". Thanks to MIKE #3 for pointing me to this site
Across69,
Thanks for the great site information. This one is fascinating. Apparently many girls in Russia are 'preservatif optional' - excellent news! I had thought it was all covered sex over there but apparently not. I will be trying hard to get the money together for a Russia trip.
a69... another good translation site is www.translate.ru If you register, you can translate large volumes of text.
A69
Its a site I have used a few times in the past. It has a lot more "low budget" options than most sites. And you can sort them by what "services" they offer. But most advertisements there are not new. They are the same advertisemtns placed a a few months ago or maybe even a year ago, for a week. Each week the girls pay money to keep the advert on the site for another week or another day and the advertisement gets "rolled" with a new placement date.
Also you dont get 5 mafia guys at a girls apartment. That stuff just doesnt happen. The apartments are just normal apartments with a few girls in them. You never see another guy in them.
But the tip about printing out the web page is a good, because they do sometimes try and jack up the price if you dont speak russian. And they will offer all sorts of excuses for it like "oh that was an old ad, we forgot to change the price months ago."
Also note that prices quoted are always for "classical". Things like anal typically cost 500 - 600 rubles extra. And if you order viyezd - take away (she comes to your apartment) you will usually have to take her for a minimum of 2 hours.
Finally, I have started enjoying the pleasures of the ladies of the rented virtue! I have tried 2 salons and called a third a few times but cannot understand what they are saying.
First, close to alexander Nevsky Metro. I tried a salon at 170 Nevsky Prospect apt 23(? 4th floor). Door is on side street. 4 girls. Had a good hour for 2000 rbl ($70) with Karina. 20 y/o Looks: 7 attitude: 7 service: 8 Phone# (812) 115-9056. All pics accurate on omen.ru
Next, I have been 4 times to a sallon DIRECTLY across the street from Cafe Magrib. 53 Nevsky Prospect. To the left facing cafe Torres. Go under arch and there is a green money exchange to your right. The apartment building door next to the exchange has the code 4-5-7 and go up 3 flights to apt #36. phone(812) 972-2793. Girls: Dasha, Diana, Vica and Sveta.Accurate pics on Omen.ru. I will post Diana and Sveta's pic on the Pic page. Price 1400 rbl/hour all girls say they do anal but only apparently if you can fit your penis into a roll of lifesavers. Had Dasha alone twice. Both times Near GFE (only missing the kissing directly on the mouth) DATY. Looks 8, attitude 9 service 9.
Had 3some Dahsa and Diana. 2800rbl ,Nice Lesbo show, Dasha was great and Diana was very tender but reserved. Diana: Looks 6 attitude 7, Service 8 No DATY this time though.
Finally, Sveta 1400 rbl/hr pretty, great body, NO personality. The distant look on her face in her pics never changed. Left the room several times, stoping and starting and kept complaining that the little general was hurting her and to slow down. Almost didn't get off. Looks 9 Attitude 2 Service 3. Talked to Vica with looks of 9 also but gave me the same vibe as Sveta so I asked for Dahsa with no regrets.
PLEASE: Anyone who speaks reasonable Russian please call this number: (812)971-8865 and post the directions with nearest metro. I can only get address 17 building 5 in the Center of town but not the street or metro. 5 girls at $35/hour each. Lulu, Valya, victoria, katya, angelica. If I get adequate directions I will go and post my experiences here.
Holy Cow A69, I stayed in an apartment in the same building as the salon you mention being across the street from Magrib and I didn't know how close paradise was from me! Really had no idea there was a salon in there, it is otherwise just a normal apartment building. I'm depressed!
I am flying to St.Pete on Sunday, do you happen to remember the business hours of that place? My work after biz dinners ends at about midnight, any chance of still scoring there that late? I'm bored with Marstalls and Tribunal.
I called the number of the place you are looking for, the nearest metro is Gostinny Dvor.
A69,
Correct my info from earlier, apparently it is close to Metro Ploschad Vosstaniya, on Grechevsky Prospekt (behind Oktyabryskaya Hotel). The lady on the phone was fairly rude though and when I asked for the house number she hung up.
If you are bored with the old faithfulls then go to Magrib. Expensive to get it, but good surroundings and plenty to look at and take away.
Dusty_bin,
I know Magrib fairly well as a "normal" disco but have never taken any professional play back from there although I have been propositioned there before. It's a cool place.
I have a prob though, I'll only be in St.Pete Sunday and Monday, leaving Tuesday. Any action there on those days?
doc... Here's some info on Spb from my friend who is an "expert" on Spb. It's not much, but maybe it's better than nothing!
"I'm not out that often and things do change, but Magrib is definately the place on Sundays. Mondays are pretty slow everywhere, but Marstall is the surest bet to at least have some people and of course the usual collection of hags. If he's looking for a regular bar and is on the younger side (doc, COMPARED TO ME, YOU ARE DEFINITELY ON THE YOUNGER SIDE!!!), Club Metro gets a good crowd on Mondays also. "
IMHO, get thee to Moscow where there's life every single night! :)
Magrib is busy every night except IIRC Monday when just the front bar is open. It is just a question of degree.
Marstall is busy every night but again a question of degree. Of course the same girls are there every night...
There is a private club called Absinthe that might be worth checking out. Many of the girls from Magrib go there, ask about it, but I think it is not cheap.
I was in ST PET :) I stayed at a hotel on Nevsky called Pulfard. Not bad, a clean hotel, nice location next to the train station. After 10 pm there is a group of woman across the street from the station. I had one girl for $50 for 2 hours, stay away, no good. I also went to Tribunal bar late at night.
The next day aprox 40 girls, all asking for $150 for few hours. I paid $100 had a sweet girl from Moscow good service .
I asked the hotel rep for Sauna and she called the Peter Hotel. They have sauna. The cost is 1000 ruple for 2 hours. They ask me if I wanted a girl, I said yes so they brought young girls. Nice looking, 2000 ruple for 2 hours. The service was ok. A very clean place. I recomend it. They have a Hotel upstairs too :)
I did not have the chance to visit the incall Saloons that was mentioned before.
Have fun and stay warm :)
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Privet vsem, Hello everybody!
I am living in Petersburg till the end of February 2004. If any fellow monger is interested to meet to pick up regular girls together please let me know.
Dusty Bin and other St.P experts:
Do you know of a good place to watch NFL football in St.P? I am planning on watching the playoffs on Sunday night and don't know where to go. PitStop?
Thanks for your help!
Too late now for this advice for yesterday's games, but for next weekend, if you didn't find anyplace, Doctor, I would suggest calling up the U.S. Consulate and asking the Marine NCO on duty where his fellow Devil Dogs watch. Those guys will be watching the game in St. Pete if it is humanly possible!
-Uncle Otto
I have the opportunity to spend a month during the spring/summer in either Prague or St. Petersburg. I am interested in hearing opinions on which city would be better for such an extended trip, particularly in regards to the subjects on this forum.
I know there is no right or wrong answer to this question, but I respect the opinions of my fellow travelers.Please factor in the special nature of a multi-week trip as opposed to a short hop. This would mean taking into consideration that the city can be used as a base of operations for weekend travel to nearby destinations.
I have been to Prague recently, have never been to St. Petersburg or anywhere in Russia.
I have made several visits to both cities and stayed for a long time in Saint Petersburg. (several weeks). I would wholeheartedly recommend Saint Petersburg although I am sure you would enjoy Prague also. SPb has so much to do in all senses as well as opportunities to trave; omwards and outwards, possibly accompanied by one of your new girl friends. Moscow is easy, Novgorod is close. The weather wil be pleasant during the spring.
Plenty of women from all sources.
Prices reasonable, certainly more so than Prague.
Have fun.
St. Petersburg is very cold in the spring. I was there in May and it snowed (plus ice still in river).
That being said - the girls are gorgeous and friendly. Lots of great palaces and museums. Nevsky avenue is very live every night with lots of people windowshopping etc.
If you don't mind cool spring weather - I thought St. Petersburg was great and would go back in a minute.
Rovnak
Completely agree with Dusty Bin and Chicagoboy in reccomending SPB, especially for an extended stay. Beautiful and interesting city with loads of places to go for both entertainment and of general interest and no where near as expensive as Moscow. I found the people incredibly friendly and generous and the women are gorgeous. I think you'll have even more opportunities with regular girls as you won't just be there for a short stay.
I haven't really got anything against Prague, but I think it is becoming more of a short visit city, and possibly is picking up some of the worst traits of Amsterdam with the number of weekenders who go there.
I just think that SPB is a great place - I would love to live there for a bit!
R... If your trip is Prague anytime after the end of May, skip it. Especially if you have already been, the tourists make the city unbearable in the Summer. Spb is a fun town, but if you're looking for P4P, you will be bored to tears within a week or two. Of course, you can always head to Moscow which offers something new every night.
Thanks for the opinions guys.
CA Traveler, that is just the issue, I do not want to be bored to tears two weeks into the trip. I will be working on the trip, so it will not be all play, but I would like to have a high play quotient. :) P4P in St. Petersburg does not have a great web presence, not many good web sites, that is what concerned me. I suppose I could do some weekenders to Moscow.
The point about Prague and tourists is valid and worth considering.
Dusty, do you really think St. P is less expensive than Prague? I was getting the opposite impression from this forum.
Rovnak
Over the past couple of years I've spent some time in both SPB and Prague, so I have some basis for comparison. Being an epicurean, I preferred the style of life and food more in Prague than in SPB. I think the women are better looking and more do-able in SPB. Even if you are an ugly git like me, you'll be deluged in amateur Russkie broads wanting to tend to your needs if you just treat them halfway decently.
A funny story - I was in SPB attending a classical music concert (not the Mariinsky, but a smallish, inexpensive theater) along with my Russkie former GF. There were probably a dozen nice-looking women in the crowd of 300 who gave me the heavy eye-contact and "please say hello to me" look when I was milling about looking at exhibits and having a drink prior to the show, at intermission, or afterwards. For comparison purposes I'm in my mid-30s and am no prize in the looks department. However, I dress decently, appear to be employed, and don't stink of vodka, so I am a valuable commodity to a lot of those women.
-Uncle Otto
Just a thought.
If you are going to be in either city for a month and need to rely entirely upon P4P, then you be a sadder boy than me!
I would dispute CAtravellers point, but, even if it were true, there is no need to rely upon paying a tart to drop her keks!
Paying can and should be a pleasant addition to ones social and sexual repertoire, not a replacement. Paying is always, ultimately, boring and Saint Petersburg offers an excellent environment to enjoy women in all social settings! (As does Prague, it is simply that one is better than the other.) BTW in the Spring, you will not be wandering around shirt-sleeved, but the weather is very pleasant. In the summer, the tarmac on the streets can even start to melt. That is a little too much for me...
How would you compare St. Petersburg and Tallinn?
They are very different, I spend a lot of time in Tallinn and it is 'home'. On the whole, I would suggest that Talinn is a much less pressurised place, more laid back in terms of man/woman stuff. It is of course a much smaller city. I think also much less expensive for most things.
If you want to shag a lot, either place will work, on the whole, I prefer Tallinn as a place to live and enjoy the women, but then I am not constantly chasing hookers!
Rovnak, as to cost, if you can get a decent apartment in walking distance of the centre of town for less than $400 per month in Prague then it might be cheaper. As for paying for sex, well if you like brothels then Prague might be cheaper, becasue there is not the same emphasis on that trade in saint Pete. OTOH there is plenty on Russian language sites, some listed on this thread. If like me you enjoy a mixed diet then I think Saint Pete wins, not least becasue living there is relatively inexpensive so dating and social stuff is cheaper.
If you want a $100 shag, well they are in every city in the world, in almost every club...
Hello Guys I come to Pete end of this month. Can you tell me some nice places to go to?
Thanks for info guys. One last question. Do the girls in SPG expect/prefer hard US currency?
I see most of the web sites specifying rates in $. Personally, I don't like to carry cash with me, I prefer to withdraw from ATM as needed, but of course that would be in local currency.
Thanks.
If you are going to be paying hard currency then they will nowadays tend to prefer Euros as a more stable currency. Their pricing is nowadays usually in Euros, which means prices relatively unchanged over several years, unless you are using Dollars.
Generally, I paid in Roubles, although as I said, they think in Euros.
At one time they would ask for, say $100, or 100Euro, nowadays, they ask for 100Euro and of course, more Dollars. although the value is of course the same.
I would not change Dollars to Euros though, youjust lose on the exchange and in real terms it makes no difference whether you use Robles, Dollars or Euros
Dusty
Slight correction. The Euro is worth approximately 26-28% more than the dollar at current exchange rates. So, if one can pay in dollars, I suggest to do so and save.
Errr no...
If you ask the price they will quote for example 100Euro. If you want to pay in dollars they will want about $130. The women may be many things, stupid is not one of them!
If you travel from the US, take Dollars, otherwise use Euros or Roubles, exchanging money twice is never sensible.
As I said prices in Euros have remained unchanged for some time since at one time the girls either did not take Euros or asked for the same amount in Euros or Dollars as this was to the girls favour, or later of no import when the Dollar and Euro were at, around, parity. As the Dollar has fallen in value against both the Rouble and Euro, the Euro has retained the same rate vis a vis the Rouble (approximately).
For those whose maths is not so good, just use Roubles, it is always easier, but I know that many Americans only feel safe with Dollars in their pocket ;)
The girls do nowadays prefer the Euro over the Dollar for the reasons that I gave. Travellers will have noticed this tendency in many other CEE countries recently.
db... I hope this trend to ask for Euros in just in Spb. I have yet to have a girl ask me for Euros in Moscow. I hope they don't figure it out!
I can understand the reason for their asking for Euros in SPB.
For one thing, the currency's value stability and secondly, SPB is close to West European countries. They can within 1½-2½ hrs. arrive in Helsinki, Berlin, Paris, etc. and enjoy their HARD earned wages without currency exchange fees or fluctuation as compared to the falling dollar.
Recently stayed at Hotel Oktyabryskaya in St.Pete. Not ideal for mongering, but cheap, clean and conveniently located.
There are girls working in the cafe-bar which if I remember correctly is on the second floor. When I was there there were 8 girls, of which 2 were very doable, 1 from Sakhalin Island (although not Asian-looking) was really sweet and we spoke, played pool and drank together for about two hours before I went to my room...alone. I didn't feel quilty about wasting her time, I was the only potential john there. Lobby girl on a slow night... what a boring life that must be.
Anyway, as point of reference, she was asking $120 for an hour or $200 for two hours. Since the room only cost $70 a night, I found the the prices a bit high for a single hour. I countered with $100 for 2 hours but she didn't budge. So I called it a night. It was late and I was tired, so I saved my cash for Moscow.
I was in SPB in 2001 and went to a strip club named Golden girls. Expensive place but the girls are very preety also. The price for a 2 hour short time was u$400. It was beyond my budget.
Is it still there? What is the price now if any one knows Please let us know.
thanks
Bacardi Blast:
Golden Dolls is still there and getting to be more and more of a rip off place. Girls are still cute, but are pushier and much less accomodating than in the past. Haven't been there in months with no plans to return for that same reason. I long for the pre-2000 days when it was under different management and one of the best places on the planet and when with some sweet talk you could agree to meet the girls outside of the club for a free "date" or "city tour" with the possibility of more. Prices for take out were always high though, I remember quotes of $350-500... all of course ridiculous.
Anybody experienced some positive development there recently? I used to love the place but now have scratched it of my "St.Pete To Do" list...
Avoid Golden Dolls like the plague. The old version was fun, with girls who at least pretended to enjoy the work. Now, just a blatant rip off. At least the place seems to have few clients these days.
I hope it closes.
Ciao all,
I am planning travel to Saitn for the first time. Can some of us please give me some information about where to go to find normal woman, as disco and so on, and where to go if I won't find a normal woman:O). I mean to have cheap sex. Surely I think I will have not problem to find a woman for 3-400$ for the night:O).
And who knows some website where I can find rent a flat in Saint?
Thank you all, for the answer.
Luca
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Privet guys,
For renting flats, the cheapest, and most honest guy I've dealt with, is Alexei Masslenikov who lives at http://www.ltour.ru. He organizes visas and accommodation vouchers too, more cheaply than anybody else, so if you've not already got your paperwork sorted out for your trip, he's the best guy to speak with, if a bit disorganized from time to time. I've been to st pete a few times where he did the paperwork + flats and it's always worked out perfectly.
For girls, well, I wouldn't go flashing $400 about the place. Try a more reasonable $100 for the night, or just tot along to Marstall and try and pull a freebie :-)
Andy
Freebie at Marstall...
Hooker central....?
Not saying it can't be done, but for a freebie it is not exactly target rich!
Metro, Aerodrome, Plage etc maybe.
Magrib, on the right night when the moon is full.
Marstall, thats like saying that you can buy a Whopper with Cheese at McDonalds!
ANDY J,
What does Alexei charge for visa, for voucher, and for flat per day?
Freebie at Marstall...
Yep, can be done -- and a fine night it was as well! :)
Having said that, though, Metro is rather more target rich, if a bit of a hike from the fancy end of Nevskii, where I tend to stay. Haven't been to the other two, though; where are they?
Money Honey's good for a laugh too, and have come close enough to a couple of freebies there too. Excess alcohol, the presence of friends from home with whom I was sharing several flats on various occasions, both combining to put the tin hat on each of these outings, sadly.
Prices with Alexei are something similar to the following:
Last year, he was charging around $25 for the tourist invitation invitation and accommodation voucher, both of which he'll fax to your home country free-of-charge. When you get to Russia, you've to register within two working days of arrival -- if you get to St Pete within this time, he'll do the registration for you for another 500 Pyb or so (this price is variable, as it's charged by a hotel which 'books you in' for one night and the 500 Pyb is the price for their cheapest room -- this may vary as it's at the whim of a bunch of larcenous hoteliers up near Finlandskii train station).
BTW, I should say here that the prices charged by various other russian travel outfits (which I won't name in publicly, but anybody who's tried to do this before will probably have come across one or two of them), are a rip-off. Generating the paperwork at the Russian end is (fairly) simple and these folks behind websites charging $100 or $150 for paperwork are less than honest, in my not-so-humble opinion.
Anyhow, back to the story. If you don't get to St Pete within two working days, but land in Moscow instead, I recommend kipping at the Gostinitsa Rossia, just off Red Square, and book an 'old style' room. Not only will this be something of an experience in itself, but the hotel's slap bang in the middle of Moscow for around $40 a night which is pretty good. The Rossia has its own cop station and registration bureau on the east wing which do registrations overnight.
Flats in St Pete come in all shapes and forms, from the very cheap ($5 per night with a babushka on the outskirts, which you can organize at Moskovskii train station, if you want an even more authentic soviet experience than the Rossia), rising to very plush flats on, or just off, Palace Square -- Dvortsovaya ploschad -- coming in at anything up to $150 per night.
On Alexei's website at http://www.ltour.ru, there's a listing of flats, pictures, prices and the rest. In the past, I've stayed in city-center flats for anything from $35 per day up to $80 per day -- your mileage will vary, depending on what's available at the time and what you wish to spend. He'll usually give you a selection of two or three locations to choose from, once you let him know your price range. The most important thing to look out for is a hot water tank within the flat, and not to rely on a communal hot water supply which may dry up at random during the winter, and even worse, during the summer months.
St Pete's a nine-ringed circus and you'll never be bored.
Andy
Andy J,
Thanks for the info. Can you tell me, do you have any recent experience staying at the Rossia, in Moscow? I understand there are dyevs who work in the hotel, but I'm wondering about the possibility of bringing in dyev's from NF or a tochka.
Also, the last time I was there was about 10 years ago. I must have had one of the "old style" rooms. Have they modernized the place at all, or is it still the same drab Soviet style?
For price and location it can't be beat.
Thanks,
Stravinsky
More info on the Rossia.
This thread's probably more appropriate, now, to the Moscow forum, so I'll post my reply there :)
Dear hobby friends,
Last year I visited St Petersburg and found a great american friend who spoke russian and helped me a lot with the hobbying. He gave me a local magazine with all the girls in appartements complete with pictures and all. After I chose them he would make the phone calls and gave me the info on appartement, floor and adress by SMS.This way I was able to go to all the salons where I would normally never get to. The prices were much lower than in the tourist places and the girls were very friendly and beautiful.
He also had a girlfriend Natascha that I did onces at $70 for an hour and she was the hottest thing I can remember. I would really advise using his services for anybody that does not speak russian himself. So not to come over as an advertisement I will supply his email adress to anybody going there and interested, just not leave it here in the open because I want him to stay in business.
[quote]He gave me a local magazine with all the girls in appartements complete with pictures and all.[/quote]70% of photos in these local magazines are fakes.
Peter Pan #2
Could you post there the address (street name) of the salon which you had visited?
You are probably right about the accuracy of the foto's in the magazine. That being said I had a good time in all of them and there were a lot of nice sexy ladies in there whom I would have never met without his help.
The adresses are far from my mind because I only used them once in every instance and they are comprised of a street, flat, floor and appartement number. On several occasions I waited outside at a certain point, send an SMS to Mike that I was there and he then phoned the appartement. After a few minutes a girl would pick me up and take me to the appartement which always was one or two blocks away. Never did I have any problem, I did not feel threatened and if Mike did not like what he heard on the phone he would phone another one.
I visited at least 5 appartements this way. The girls were beautiful, very active sexually and a lot cheaper than the escorts or hotel girls. I paid $60 once for a threesome with two of the most sexy blondes I ever saw. It lasted two hours. The memory even now still brings a smile to my face.
Here is a compiled index of working apartments I made from the Omen.ru website. The ONLY place I have personal experience with is the first one one the list. This is the apartment at 53 Nevsky Prospect mentioned in my 12/2/03 post. Apparently, all of the women working there have changed.
First listed are current working girls from Omen.ru (you need to usually ask for a girl by name on the phone for them to give you directions, apartment numbers, door codes, etc.). The girls change so you will probably want to check out the website if has been more than a few months since this post (unless you can bluff well in Russian). I have tried "Gde Devoshki" (where are the girls?) with only limited success. Next are the phone numbers and lastly is the price in dollars quoted per hour.
Margarita, Olya, Leah, Kristina (812)9722793 ---$50
Olga, Lola, Sabrina, Natashka (911)2966407 ---$50
Veronika, Sasha, Suzanna, Marina (812)1150772 ---$50
Diana, Polina, Marina Lera- (812)9721226 ---$70
Irina, Jasmina, Olga, Marinoshka--- (812)9134545 ---$70
Tamara, Matasha, Marina, Elizabeth, Mashinka, Inga,Alina, Galina, Xenya (812)9606627 ---$70
Dinara, Melina, Stella, Karina, Natasha, Katya, Sveta, Lena,Valentine, Nina (812)2737401 ---$45
Dasha, Zeneshka, Anna, Leroshka, Lera (812)3875993 ---$45
Dana, Zanna, Svetlana, Alena(812)3894288 ---$50
Diana, Svetlana, Inga, Ilona(921)7937543 ---$70
Yunna, Angela, Mila, Lina(812)9730428 ---$45
Ayna, Lika, Angelika(921)3517787 ---$43
Angel, Melina, Lela, Ruta (812)9730494 ---$100
Xusha, Regina, Marta(812)2742541 ---$40
Kat, Louisa, Vica, Evgenia(812)2747802 --$33
Alya, Julya, Nina, Nadia(812)9723727 ----$30
Nastya, Katya, Dasha, Lera (812)3707630 ---$50
Dasha, Karina, Elizabeta, Margarita,Valerya (812)9740812 ---$50
Kristina, Olga, Anita (812)9722164 ---$50
Rimma, Vanda, Linda, Lara, Oxana, Rosa (812)9733081 ---$50
Ilya, Irisha,Kristina, Marisha, Olya (911)2958788 ---$50
Michella, Lisa, Katusha, Kristina, Xosha(812)9740838 ---$50
Maria, Lera, Anna, Nicole, Natalya (812)9742340 ---$80
Olga, Renata, Sneganna, Angelica (812)9888883 ---$50
About 30 Girls on list (812)9743848 --- $40-$50
None of these places probably speak much English, but once you can actually find them I personaly have never had much problem getting down to business.
If you have any good/bad/scary experiences or if any of these numbers are DOA please let us all know and remember the directions to the place if possible! Happy Hunting
Is there any sense in going to St-Pete versus Moscow?
I have been to St-Pete and have seen the city and museums/theaters, so I am only interested in girls now.
So far I’ve seen that asking prices are 120-130 for 1-2 hours. And they don’t budge. Is it lack of competition?
I have checked apartment rentals and to my surprise downtown apartments in Moscow are 10-30% cheaper...( with the same number of rooms and amenities).
I know about bridges that add to inconvenience in navigating city at night. I also assume that there are fewer clubs and hangouts in ST-Pete as it is smaller city. Does it mean that talent is more concentrated since they have fewer places to go to?
I need an advise of those who know both cities well. I am fluent in Russian and looking for girls only. Is it worth for me to check St-Pete? Or is it smaller and shabbier version of Moscow with somewhat higher prices?
How are the prices on restaurnats,entrance fees to clubs, taxi services etc.
Please advise.
monster... I happen to agree with you, but here's my take on it... Some mongers absolutely love Spb and they get very defensive if you are critical of the mongering opportunities in Spb. Howver, personally, I feel like I am on a desert island when in Spb COMPARED to Moscow. Moscow has so many options compared to Spb AND, like you, think that generally Spb is a much more expensive place to visit and to play. Right off the top, the problem is that everything is priced in Euros instead of USD.
Of course, if you come to Russia and have never been to Spb... it makes sense to check the city out because the city and the museums are beautiful.
Guys,
I will be in St Pete from 28th March to 3rd April. On my previous trip I only really checked out Marstalls which was a bit bleak. Can anyone recommend any bars like Chesterfield's in Moscow or do such dives not exist in St Pete? Also anyone out there game for meeting up for a beer at this time?
[quote]Also anyone out there game for meeting up for a beer at this time?[/quote]Hey Blake7
I live here, so I am here everytime. Of course we can meet for a beer here.
Best regards,
Andy
Blake7,
Marstalls is quite bleak and getting bleaker, at least in my experience. There is also Tribunal, which is essentially a different version of Marstalls. Some days Marstalls is better, somedays Tribunal. I tend to think they both are quite depressing when you've seen them more than once or twice. Prices are $100+, but I haven't taken a girl home from either of these places in over a year.
A better selection is Magrib across the street from the Corinthia Nevsky Palace (formerly Sheraton). Lot of cute regular girls, some pros. Expect to pay about $150+. But it isn't truly a place like CF, as the pro scene is more subtle and most of the girls in Magrib are normal and not that easy to pick up. Nonetheless, it is a nice place to hang out and during my last trip there I saw some seriously hot babes, somewhat restoring my faith in St.Pete dyevs.
Other guys know St.P better, but for me it is a pretty bleak place for mongering, as saunas, internet and hotel girls seem to be the best options and I don't like any of these alternatives.
Apparently there is a town outside of St.Pete called Viborg (?) which has an interesting pro scene, but I am not sure whether making the trip is really worth the effort.
BTW: Am still not all that happy that you said you wanted to meet for a beer in Moscow and then just disappeared. It is not that I waited around for you or anything, but I would prefer if people just say they can't meet as opposed to saying they want to and then going silent.
[quote]Apparently there is a town outside of St.Pete called Viborg (?) which has an interesting pro scene, but I am not sure whether making the trip is really worth the effort.[/quote]The situation is very bad in Vyborg. I visit there every 2 weeks by my work. Only some average quality pros. in the hotel "Drujba" on week-ends, all other are streetwalkers with really very bad quality of service. So, it does not cost to go to Vyborg for girls hunting.
Best regards,
Andy
I have always felt that Magrib was mostly girls who were at least 'semi-pro', but I have never actually directly paid for a girl from there. I do know that I have dated a couple of girls from there who were listed on Escort sites in the city and on one occasion, after assurances to the contrary, I was asked for a 'little gift' of $100. I think she was trying to avoid paying the rent.
The rent system at Magrib tends to favour the irregular semi pros rather than the regular faces that one sees at Marstall. Girls pay $20 per guy they take out, no score, no pay. Marstal, is a weekly rental of IIRC $100. That is why Magrib has a changing set of faces (and impression of civilians rather than pros) and Marstall has the same faces year in year out.
Tribunal need to get back the original owners, or at least their business ethic, greedy russians have made the place much less fun. Not worth the trip to the river.
Vyborg, is a town near the Finnish border, used to be a Finnish town until the Russians annexed it during WW2. Still looks kinda Finnish. Run down, full of beer and sex tourists from Finland. Very depressing, horrid sort of place.
Thanks guys for your expert advice. Sounds like Magrib really is the place to go.
If anybody wants very detailed info on the "rent" paid at Marstalls, Tribunal etc. do a forum search on dusty_bin and you shall find some very interesting info.
Vyborg sounds like it should be removed from everybody's collective memory.
Blake 7, Andy S,
I will also be in SPb from 28th March and would be pleased to meet up for a beer or 2.
I wholeheartedly agree with fellow posters about Marstall becoming very grim. I have visited several times in recent years but the last few times the whole place looked tired, not just the girls. The only hassle I have ever had from police in Russia has been outside Marstalls. In December I left alone and was immediately stopped by four police who asked me lots of questions (where are you staying, where are your drugs, have you been drinking, etc). They were not moved by threats to call the Consulate and simply helped themselves to my money. Exact same thing happened about 2 years earlier, and I had stopped visiting Marstall because of this. The common factor each time was that I left alone. I never had problems when I left with a girl.
I felt the atmosphere at Tribunal had also died a bit in December so for next visit I will focus on Magrib and a couple of apartments I found last time.
Dr Skank,
Thank you once more for your sound advice. It seems that Magrib is the place to be in St Pete.
Apologies for not calling about our beer in CF - to cut a long story short I got tied up with something (not literally!) Anyway if I ever bump into you again at any salubrious bar drinks are definately on me.
As to the other guys who are in St Pete at the end of the month - lets do it! I will be there for the week from 28th March to 4th April. Would be interested in Magrib on Friday 2nd April for sure. Are you around Dr Skank?
By the way I go to Nizhny Novgorod on the 4th for a couple of days. Anyone know of any action there?
Blake7
I am still here and I visit some places every ftiday. Send me PM if you are interested and I will send you my contacts.
Andy
Blake7 and all, won't be around at the end of March/early April...I'll be in Moscow in early April... but wish you all a great time. Please report your experiences here. Thanks!
Vyborg is a relatively small town (population approx. 80.000), so the sex-scene is of course nothing compared to St.P. Price range is probably a little lower though, and some jewels can be found.
I still wouldn't recommend Vyborg to anybody, it's such an anemic place. I live only 50 kilometers from the town on the other side of the iron curtain (which still exists in my opinion), but even I don't consider Vyborg a good choice for mongering. Geographical distance to Tallinn may be greater from my point of view, but mentally it is a lot closer, and also faster and cheaper to get to (no need for visas, car insurances), even though you need to use a ferry. Not to mention that the city itself offers far more attractions.
As far as St. Petersburg is considered, many ferry companies are now offering cruises there from Helsinki, so that might be a viable option for many.
Ciao all fellow Mongers,
Please can someone can help me? I will be in Piter and I need some contact of person that rent a flat in Piter. Anybody knows or can help me?
Thank you very much in advance to all!
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L... try www.oksanas.net I've used her before for apartments and her service is good. Don't discuss the hobby with her because she's a good resource and not into our program.
Ca traveler,
Thank you very much for reply. I know Oksana, but she doesn't have flat free in my period, so I may look for another possibility. Another person that rent flat in Piter and no worry, I will not speak or share none information about us and wsg with person that rent flat or similar, but thank for the advice.
Best regards,
Luca
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CA_T
That's true but her prices are not really so convenient. I am sure she started to gather for rich tourists who don't mind spending bit more but having a good service (she does provide a good one together with her US bf).
The fact is that local prices are much lower but of course more difficult to be found by a normal tourist coming there for the first time or without local connections.
Decent apartments can be found even at $200/month ... but you need again local connections.
Planning my next trip there as well :)
Any feedback from anyone about www.petersex.info ?
Cheers
Hey guys!
Forget these prices 200$ per appartment in month! I am living here. And very small 1-room appartment will cost 250-300$ minimum. And it will be located 15-20km from city centre! Appartments in centre costs starting 400..500$ per month. And usually you will pay 1month fee to the agency for services.
Best regards,
Andy
tl... not that this really matters to most people, but my experience is that short term apartment rentals in Spb are much more expensive than Moscow. Probably because there are fewer hotels and more tourists. Also, they are all priced in Euros. I haven't been to Spb in almost two years, but when I recently researched apartments there I was shocked at the pricing.
Secondly, there are a lot of myths about Russian apartments and prices, at least in Moscow. In December, I did a very intensive search of apartments looking for an apartment. I can promise you that, depending on the size, any apartment in the center of Moscow that is renting for less than $800 for studios and probably $900-1000+ for a 1 bedroom... even those apartments are Russian quality and are not equipped so that most Americans would want to stay there.
Furthermore, since the middle of last year the dollar has dropped dramatically and the rental prices of apartments have gone up a lot recently.
Let me know if you include Moscow in your trip and maybe we can hook up for a beer.
TL,
Ciao, you are right. Yes Oksana,has only prices in euro and for my budget a little expensive, don't you have any contact that rents flat in Piter please?
I tried also write mail to http://www.ltour.ru/index.php3 but after 3 days they yet not answer me, so I don't know, but in city of about 5,5 milion persons it's hard to believe there are only 2 web address that rent flat. Some of us any suggest, please?
Regards, ciao,
Luca
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Yes guys, you are all right. My $200/month was not for a well located apartment. Generally yes, prices seem to rise up .... euro is getting stronger and in Russia they are looking to make more money from tourist. After all it is their normal attitude to try to make a better business.
CAT: the project I told you before has been put on hold. Therefore I will go again myself to SPB for a few days trying to meet again few old freebies I met there last time. MetroClub rules on the weekend but want to try new places as well :)
I am also looking for a place to rent in there and I am trying to pull all the ropes and contacts I have there. Will be pleased to share once I will find something.
Cheers
Hello guys,
Can anybody tell me where te gil friendly hotels are in Saint Pete? Please do not give only the expensive once because I do not have enough nomey to pay more than 100 eur a night.
If you can tell me some nice places, let me know.
Thanks
Laurent,
90-91 Nevsky prospect last year i paid $70 for double very nice and clean hotel next to the Moscow train station, i brought in a woman from Tribunal bar at 2 am they just buzzed me in :)
Gentlemen,
I'm an experienced pussy hound from Romania and on my way to St Petersburg for a week next month. Some advice would be appreciated:
1) Clubs: what are best places to meet collegey, bohemien type chicks? Clubs for slutty looking whorish types?
2) Internet sites: Are there any local, free internet dating sites?
3) Ads: where is best place for me to post an ad looking for relationship?
4) aparment rental: anyone know any decent agencies?
Thank you,
RoPickle
RoP... just wondering why you're planning on staying in Spb for a full month... Why don't you head south and experience the real nightlife capitol... Moscow? IMHO, I think you'll be bored to tears after a week or so in Spb. Let me know if you decide to forsake the land of tourists for the real Russian Sex Buffet and maybe we can hook up for a beer.
Try www.oksanas.net or www.nevsky88.net for an apartment.
Have fun and take lotsa pictures!
Thanks CA Traveller!
I am working the week before in Moscow, and taking a week, not a month, in St Petersburg. I never had luck in Moscow, wanted to give St. Pete's a try. But do you think I would be better off dedicating a week in Moscow or St. Petersburg?
Thanks for your advice.
RoPickle
RoP:
Apartments: I worked with 'City Realty' - they have a website, could be cityrealty.com, but I really don't remember - if you look up city realty saint petersburg, you should find it. Around $40/night for one bedroom in center.
Girls: There are a few places - Marstall - modest sized place, lots of foreign guys, good number of local girls (non-working), and miscellaneous working girls (can be tough to distinguish at first, but they'll let you know...).
There is also Magrib - its a bit bigger, and more of a sure thing if you're looking for pay for play.
Metro Club supposedly has lots of young (as in 18-22), non-working girls, though I haven't made it there yet.
If money is no object - you could go to someplace like Golden Dolls...though that's not my style.
RoP... I guess I misread your post... a week makes more sense. However, I'm partial to Moscow. PM me and maybe we can hook up next month when you're in Moscow.
Hi, gentlemen,
I have just come back from my beloved Sank Peterburg. The economic situation seems to have improved and people (including girls) goes on being so kind, but mongering isn’t so easy and satisfying as before, at least for me.
Tribunal isn’t the same. An old known girl explained us that there were some problems and younger girls must go now to Marstall (Koinyuseheny Dvor). I ‘m not sure this is truth, but the average girls in Tribunal was less pretty. Marstall was O.K. Magrib is supposed to be the best place. Lots of normal girls and some professionals. They ask USD 200, and don’t go less. Some interesting girls walking by Nevski Pr., they asked USD 100.-, but not anal.
Anyway, a marvellous place.
The Moscow Times
Thursday, Apr. 22, 2004. Page 1
Half of St. Pete Prostitutes Have HIV
By Simone Kozuharov
Staff Writer ST. PETERSBURG -- Almost half of all prostitutes in St. Petersburg are infected with HIV, in large part because most local sex workers are drug users and the sex industry lacks the organization seen in Moscow, according to a new study.
"In Moscow, only 15 percent of prostitutes are HIV positive, and in St. Petersburg it's 48 percent," said Tatyana Smolskaya, head of the government's Northwest AIDS Center.
Of that 48 percent, 96 percent use drugs intravenously, she said. In comparison, just over 10 percent of the HIV-positive prostitutes in Moscow are intravenous drug users.
"St. Petersburg has become the leader in the number of women getting HIV from prostitution," Smolskaya said. "This is not by accident ... because prostitution is almost a synonym for drug use."
The study, conducted by the St. Petersburg Pasteur Institute and nongovernmental organizations Humanitarian Action and Stellit, put the number of HIV-positive people in Russia at about 260,000, with 10 percent living in St. Petersburg.
Humanitarian Action president Alexander Tsekhanovich linked the high concentration of HIV infections in St. Petersburg to "a very big increase in drug use some years ago" and said that every third drug user in the city is infected.
Tellingly, more female addicts are infected with HIV than male addicts in St. Petersburg, Smolskaya said.
One reason there are so many HIV-positive prostitutes is because they tend to work independently, Smolskaya said. "Each girl just goes out and works by herself," she said.
The prostitutes pay a percentage of their earnings to the police to work the streets. A Humanitarian Action official estimated that the police rake in as much $5 million per year from the trade.
The police, however, do not regulate the sex workers' lifestyles, and prostitutes are free to choose whether or not to use a condom. Some clients pay more for unprotected sex. "Prostitutes say this is the main reason why they don't use condoms," Smolskaya said.
But in Moscow, pimps and madams closely manage the lives of prostitutes and quickly abandon those who take up drugs or become infected with HIV, Tsekhanovich said. "If a girl takes drugs and somebody knows, she is expelled from the system," he said.
St. Petersburg sex workers, without the management of madams or pimps, are left free to abuse drugs. "Practically all of them are drug users," Smolskaya said.
Alexander Komarovsky, a doctor who travels with a Humanitarian Action bus that exchanges needles and hands out condoms on St. Petersburg streets, said he has seen many prostitutes working just to support their drug habits. "Practically all the money is for drugs," he said.
A sex worker who visited the bus on a recent evening confirmed this. The 27-year-old woman, who exchanged 150 syringes and 120 needles and collected free condoms, said she spends about $1,000 per month to support her four-year heroin addiction. "Life is hard," she said. "You want to break free from the drugs and this life, but you can't."
She said she was a former hairdresser and turned to heroin after friends told her that, unlike alcohol, it was not followed by a hangover.
She said she never reuses syringes and only has sex with men who agree to use condoms.
Smolskaya said the plight of St. Petersburg prostitutes is bleak. "On the one hand, they catch HIV through a syringe or a sexual partner," she said. "On the other hand, they pass the disease to their drug-using partners and their sexual partners.
"HIV is going to keep spreading," she said.
The World Health Organization and other international organizations have warned of an HIV epidemic in Russia. There are no reliable statistics for how many people have been infected with the deadly virus, but estimates run as high as 1 million. The number of officially registered HIV cases is about 250,000, according to the Federal AIDS Center in Moscow.
Figures from the Moscow health committee coincide with those in the new report. The committee's head, Andrei Seltsovsky, said last summer that 15 percent of prostitutes in Moscow have HIV. He also suggested forcibly testing prostitutes and drug users as two main groups at risk of contracting the virus, but the idea did not win support in the Moscow City Duma.
Murray Feshbach, one of the world's leading experts on health in Russia, said the 260,000 HIV cases cited in the report are far too low.
"The real number is 'God knows,'" Feshbach, a senior scholar at the Woodrow Wilson International Center for Scholars, said by telephone from Washington. "I would accept a figure much closer to 750,000 than I would to 270,000, but I can use it to get started."
As of February, about 4,900 Russians had died of AIDS and other HIV-related illnesses. The optimistic projection of AIDS deaths each year by 2020 is 228,000, while pessimistically, that number could reach 648,000 per year, Feshbach said.
Hi,
Does anyone have info about this site who provide escort girls?
http://www.baltex.spb.ru/.
Thanks
cfrmn
These numbers are for street prostitutes or even the high class ones we meet at ChesterField in Moscow. What about the ones in www.dosug.nu?
Maharadjah, Escort Baltic describe itself as :
"The basic direction of activity of the company - transport-forwarding service of the export-import cargoes following through sea terminals of Saint Petersburg".
I would humbly suggest that all statistics can be tilted in a negative direction, if you desire, but especially because in Russia there is a class of RRussian working girl, and I use the term "girl" very loosely, who hangs around the train stations who will pop you for about 100 rubles. I recently read an article here or on another site for Spb taxi driver's education discussing the various spots and costs for the working girls... If, in fact, 80+% of these girls and other train station urchins are carriers... the numbers are so distorted that the real numbers are probably closer to the numbers in the west.
At the same time, it is so obvious when some conference on AIDS or some other disease is being held... you see all of these radical statements in the press... The conference loves it and in reality nothing is any different that it has always been.
I would suggest that anyone that plies the hobby with one of the train station urchins for 100 rubles is not playing with a full deck in the first place.
Baltex are a logistics and forwarding firm.
The only sex going on there is in the Chairman's office with his secretary!
Sorry guys,
The correct adress is http://www.egoist.spb.ru.
I don't know why when you cut/paste it 's transform in http://www.baltex.spb.ru
Hi Gentlemen,
Some of us knows how is the scene in Piter about Street-Workers? Where are they and what about prices? And tochka?
Thanks,
Luca
Lukasek,
To my knowledge, based on several trips to St. Pete over the past 18 months, St. Pete does not have a high class line-up (tochka) or street-walking scene in the manner similar to Moscow. If you're looking for some really low-level SW action of the type endemic to train stations throughout Europe, my advice would be to first read the article reprinted below about the HIV infection rate in St. Pete.
Several of the bars that are popular with expats (Marstalls being one of the more prominent advertisers in the expat press) are awash with good-looking working girls. Read back over the past year's posts for some further details.
-Uncle Otto
Ciao Otto,
Thank you very much for your answer. I read article about HIV. I always used condoms in last 4 years, to avoid not only HIV but also all the other many infections like Candida, Clamydia. But I though that in second city of Russia, with about 5 milion of persons, could be at least a little scene of SW, but ok. I was in Moscow, but desire to change, and I think also I will go to Novgorod, near to Piter-3/4 hour by train or to Novosibirsk, yet I don't know, but surely mainly time in Piter.
I will write my reports I hope with many fotos LOL!
Take Care,
Ciao Otto
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Luksek,
If you are a decent-looking man who dresses well, you will have NO PROBLEM finding FREE excellent pussy in St. Petersburg. And if you have to pay, there is still a lot of excellent pussy too. Just not standing on the street corner. ;)
Plus, this city is one of the most interesting ones in Europe. The Hermitage is the greatest museum I have ever seen. The architecture is in some places amazing. (The food stinks though. :()
But I want to encourage you to visit this town, at least once. It is a much better destination than Novosibirsk!!!!!!
-Uncle Otto
Hello guys,
As far as I can see nothing very special happens in Saint Peterburg last months. Are there realy no places where you can find nice girls where you can spent some times with them in privzat, if you are staying in a hotel where girls are not allowed?
Please fellows, those who have a lot of experience in this matter, what do you suggest. It is easy to tell that there are a lot of girls who will be with you for money, but where do you get them, and where do you take them afther making a deal?
Laurent
Otto thank you very much for your answer!
I think I am a normal 30 yo italian guy dressing good i think,but in Moscow it was not easy to find free pussy, only one in 10 days, it was my first time there, probably went not to good disko, or I did not try so much, but in Moscow seems that almost every woman want money,my personal impression. So this is the reason why I want to go out of capital,surely Piter is wondeful city as you said, but I am yet a little afraid it could be as little Moscow with not very friendly attitude women (I am use to go to slovak republic, where I am also this weekend, and here much easier than Moscow but less beauty women!), so this is the reason why I started to think about Novosibirsk. Cause I though a city so far from west europe can offer a lot of women easier than capital.
But dear Otto, I will follow your suggest and make surely you and to the others here let know all what will happened, I am studing Russian alone to increase the chance, but you seems to know very well Piter, so which the best disko or best moments, during the day or night,to pick up normal girls? I will try to not pay.
What do you think to start from home to write with girls that are on bride.ru? Did you try this? Which kind of women in bride.ru?
Best regards!
Luca
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A funny thing happened on my way back to my apartment...
it was Tuesday night in St.Pete and after unsuccessfully trying to call up a girl I know off of www.dating.ru I went to Magrib, only to find out that the disco it is closed on Tuesday nights, the restaurant and cafe were open, but it looked mostly like cosy couples in love and little chance to chat anybody up.
So it being already about 1 am and a Tuesday night so i decided to go to Marstalls. Marstalls was the same as it always is, kind of like CF but only a 5th of the size and somehow gloomy... and besides that it usually lacks any real talent.... at CF in Moscow you can occassionally meet very nice normal girls.
When there, I noticed it was about half full... mostly Russians and a few drunken Scandanavian businessmen who seemed more interested in themselves and their drunken glee than the strippers doing a routine with only a fair degree of skill. I think maybe they were training new girls, seriously. The girls were good but not great-looking, the kind of girls you can meet at clubs too. But not on a Tuesday night. There was a very pretty tall girl with her lesbian or bisexual girlfriend, but she was too tall for me.. seriously about 1,85m. Not much other talent.
Soon I did notice an Asian looking girl seemingly enjoying herself very innocently and serenely dancing with her somewhat dumpy looking yet cute blonde friend.
The Asian who turned out to be an 18 or 19 year old from Yakutsk named Lana. That gave her about 50 plus points in my book... I just thought the idea of fucking a girl from Yakutsk was grand. And when she told me she was Muslim, I had made my decision. Her friend was from St.Pete and named Alona... kind of dumpy looking, but in a cute trashy way. Both girls were average overall though, I give them each a 6. Anyway, I had to work the next day so I suggested I walk them to Nevsky, they agreed. At Nevsky, I "informed" them that I had a jacuzzi and that we could have some tea. My friend's apartment, which he let me have for a few days, was located not far from Marstalls, just a 10 minute walk. They looked at each other and agreed. At this point I decided that I would try to get both... the girls were average enough that I wouldn't regret not fucking them should they be insulted by my advances.
Back at the pad, the girls were flabbergasted. It was the nicest place they'd ever seen. They both wanted to try out the jacuzzi.
So in went Lana the Asian, she insisting that I don't see her undress and she get under the bubbles first. Shy Muslim girl. :) Whatever. Mind you I had yet to kiss either one. While Lana was in the hottub, I was in the next room with Alona and within 15 minutes had gone from kiss to fucking. The bed was a squeaker, which I enjoyed. The sex was really fun, she was making these odd noises the whole time... like ooohh and oooff and making strange pseudo seductive faces. A really great poke, even though the girl was pretty trampy. I pretended to be rough with her which made her playful. I finished in her mouth. After finishing with Alona I went to check on Lana. She came out without me watching and Alona went in the tub. Lana redressed and when I was alone with Lana I started to kiss her. She giggled like a schoolgirl and seemed quite inexperienced. Soon I was messing around with her and she was still very shy. She seemed very happy and started doing some oddly beautiful Yakutian dance for me and we talked, me making my move the whole time but not rushing since I needed recovery time. At some point Alona came back out and when I was alone with her for a second she told me that Lana really liked me. So I took the hint and invited Lana back into the tub, where within about 10 minutes she had gone from giggling schoolgirl to fuckbunny. She got the works... sitting on me, doggy style, face fuck and finally I came on her ass after pumping her from behind standing in the tub. Fucking in the hot tub is not as easy as one might think.
Afterwards we all rolled around in bed together and did some kissing, me dividing my time between the two... they both seemed happy, although the blonde was cooler emotionally than the Asian... I think the Asian was really smitten, I was supposedly her second guy. The Asian even cried when I booted them out of the apartment, helping them get a taxi before returning into bed half-dead.
Was a pretty cool experience even if the girls weren't super hot...
Here is a pic, check out a couple more in the pics section.
Skank,
All I have to say is:
You are the man all of us aspire to be.
-Uncle Otto
Otto,
Excusez le mot but what exactly is understood by "decent looking" and "dressed well" for Russian standards?
Suit and tie, or is a more casual look already sufficient to distinguish myself as inostranyets?
(OK, no jogging suit ;)
Mike
Mike3:
IMHO:
Please don't think you have to wear a suit and tie to impress Russian girls. Depending on the type of club or establishment you visit you can wear "almost" anything, it should just look like it is from a designer label ($$$), is clean (obviously), is fashionable and you should feel comfortable in it.
Any number of combos possible. Shoes are important. Only wear sneakers/trainers if you are going to that kind of club (hipHop etc.)... otherwise you will likely get rejected at the door for violating dress code.
Suit defintely works with many girls, but if you go to a club late at night wearing a suit and tie may leave you feeling hopelessly overdressed.
Mike, what Doctor Skank said. ;)
-Uncle Otto
Hi everyone,
I will apologise straight away as this is my first post and it is a request for information. Hopefully I will be able to balance this out in the near future with reports on my trip to St.P.
I am visiting St.P (and indeed Russia) for the first time in a couple of weeks and would like to hook up with some Russian women whilst I am there. The only problem is that I will be going with collegues from work and don't want them to find out....
And on top of that I obviously don't speak any Russian :(
And on top of THAT I am really into anal sex and would like to find women who will allow it.
I am thinking that I will be restricted to the working girls in the hotel bar (I have heard that it is common to find them here but that you can have problems with hotel security - I will be staying in the Hotel St Petersburg..any idea if this is true?). Don't really feel that going to Marstels or similar would be a good idea on my own as a newbie in Russia so the other options would be one of the escort agencies I found on the SPTimes website or one of the girls advertising on www.Petersex.info.
I guess my question is really, where is the best chance of finding a working girl who allows anal and speaks english and that I can get into my hotel room with the minimal fuss and without paying a fortune. I don't ask for much do I!?!?!?! ;o)
Apols again for all the questions in my first post...hope you guys can help me out.
Bob1
Buy the illutrated newspaper "ZNAKOMSTVA" and you will find there lot of ads from girls with photos and phones. Girls with anal avilable also. But onlư few girls speaks english.
Good luck!
Andy
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I guess my question is really, where is the best chance of finding a working girl who allows anal and speaks english and that I can get into my hotel room with the minimal fuss and without paying a fortune. I don't ask for much do I!?!?!?! ;o)
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The best place is probably right in the hotel where you will be staying. It's been several years since I stayed at the Gosteenitsa Sankt Peterburg (Hotel St. Petersburg), but as I recall, there is a large mezzanine area above the main hotel lobby. There are several lounge areas and a small bar/nightclub there on the mezzanine. Later in the evening, around 22:00 or 23:00, you should see a fairly good selection of attractive young ladies, all nicely dressed and each one sitting by herself. They are all on the program.
The Hotel St. Petersburg is a big international hotel, so all of these dyevs should speak pretty good English (at least that was my experience), so communication should not be a problem.
Don't worry about security, the girls are there [i] because [/i] security let them in, and they paid a fee for that priveledge. It also means you may have to pay a little more, since they have to recoup their bribe to security. But in your situation, it's probably worth it.
The Russian word for anal is "ah-NAHL". If you've established the fact the you're dealing with a working girl, she shouldn't be too put out if you just tell her, " Ya ha-CHOO ah-NAHL-ni syeks sssstah-BOY". That should get the point across. Her response will be basically "Da" or "Nyet". It could also be "BOL-shye DYEN-ig", which means more money.
After you close the deal, take her up to your room and I think you can figure out the rest. Hopefully, none of your business associates will see you in the hallway. ;-)
Shyestleeva,
Stravinksy
Bob,
Further to Stravinsky's post, I have stayed at Hotel St Petersburg several times in the last 3 years, the latest being March this year. The action on the Mezzanine level no longer exists and I have never known the bar up there to be open. The lobby bar is tiny and is positioned to the left of the main lobby under the staircase to the Mezzanine. You will find 5 or 6 working girls there each evening from about 10pm onwards. They are not too bad looking but ask for $150 per hour. No hassles with hotel security but it is quite expensive for the apparent quality. I've never indulged, preferring to visit bars such as Marstall and Tribunal or apartments. I have taken girls back to the hotel a couple of years ago and security required $20 bribes. But I was paying the girl $70-$100 for the whole night so to me was better value than the lobby girls.
Hope this helps you.
Ricardo Cabron
Andy and Stravinsky,
Thanks for the advice guys. It is certainly appreciated.
Thanks for the advice Ricardo.
Is $150 the going rate for all hotel girls at the moment. I don't want to end up paying above the normal rate as it will just encourage prices to go up! Is anal normally extra or is it included if the particular girl allows it?
Hi All,
Spent a week in St Petersburg and one night went trawling along Nevskey Prospect.
there seems to be plenty of street action at the end beyond Moscow Rail station.
I was stopped by a girl who asked if i was looking for sex.
I replied yes. She was about 5'8" and good looking paid $200 for all night in the apartment I had rented.
We went on a walk around Saint Petersburg telling me about the sights there.
After about two hours of my private guided tour retreated to the apartment, had a drink and then down to the best part of the evening.
Blow jobs, hands, and fucking in many positions till we was both tired.
Then a nice wake up call in the morning with some more action.
Well worth the punt.
A very nice girl indeed
Crompton
Anyone got good advice for a newcomer to Saint Petersburg. I will be staying for apr. 3 months and have already decided after reading the reports to visit Magrib, seems to be a good place that is unless someone has a better idea?
Also I saw an old report on SPA ELITA, has anyone been there recently?
All info on where to find beautiful girls, and current prices is highly appreciated.
V.
vest mann,
i went to spa elita last year. it's on the main moskovy propect if i remember correctly. its very professional. the give you a catalogue for you to pick a woman. often they don't have the women available, but you'll end up with a stunner anyway.
off to the room for an oily body to body massage with last about 40/50 mins and then hand relief. it was about 2000 rubles, which is expensive. you prod need to get a taxi there and back as it's quite far from the centre of spb.
there's a few other places where you can get an outstanding massage for about 800/900 rubles all in. there's no sex just hand relief, but the massage (boby to body) is awesome. these are usually in done it typical russian apartments where you can pick a girl (or two) from a selection of 5. they're all hot and it is difficult choosing sometimes. i've mislaid the numbers for these though. if anyone has the numbers please let me know. they speak limited english and you have to call first, so sometimes it can be a problem. i went to these about 4 times in the space of 8 days!
i'm there at the end of july, so if you want to hook up give me a pm, or anyone else for that matter. i quite fancy going to some of the clubs there.
speed touch
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Another good "normal" club is Jet Set... a bit upscale, but not as murderously elitny as its Moscow equivalent.
Spent a couple of White Nights nights a fortnight ago at the Hotel Mockva.
Around 23.00-24.00 both nights (Fri and Sat) there was quite a lot of action in the main bar adjacent to the lobby. Probably hotel's own regulars, as some knew each other. I spotted four, and my freebie companion a couple more I wouldn't have registered. Some good lookers. Sorry, couldn't investigate prices or services under the circumstances. Lapin Kulta beer to enjoy as your eyes surf. There's also a Night Bar, which I didn't go to.
Of course, if you stay, you get the twin beds and not a double. About USD 100 the night.
I have just returned to the US after two years in St Pete (and yes I am chomping at the bit to return). I though that I would share some of my experiences.
I am suprised to note that no one has really mentioned Tutsy Bar in the forum. It is located off of the Lt Schmidt Bridge on the Vaselievsky on a small boat. It is one of the true gems of St Pete. On Friday there is an excellent show programme and the girls are all available on site. They have just remodeled the rooms upstairs. The going price is 4000 RR for an hour. Yes I know that this is more than what you would pay for take away from the bars, but I had a live in girlfriend and the fact that it was room inclusive was a plus. You can get lap dances at your table from every girl (7-9s) for 50 RR and get an idea of your favorites.
Koko Bongo, located in the Stockman building on Nevsky next to Kazan Sobor is another place worth checking out. Aslo full service in the lap dance room, about the same price. No beds here just massive carpet burns from the floor. The girls are not as hot (4-8). It is on the good side of the bridges so you don't get stuck.
I hope to be back in St Pete for a week at the end of Sept or beginning of Oct so if anyone will be around drop me a line.
Good Hunting.
I've been lurking for awhile, thought maybe it was time to contribute. First off all, I must say, that I don't like to pay for play. I have done it twice and have never liked it. I like reading other posts about it, but for me the reality never meets the fantasy. Secondly, I live off and on between Los Angeles and Las Vegas, so perhaps my standards of beauty are skewed. Las Vegas girls can be extremely beautiful, if in that stripper way. And, supposedly, I am a very good looking guy, so I am lazy when it comes to working for women; sometimes when I want to hook up, I don't really have the skills to do so. But that's why Eastern Europe is so nice for me, it is so easy compared to the USA. By the way, I would rather go home and whack off than hook up with a fugly woman, just my preference.
I have never been to Russia before, and have been traveling for a few weeks. First in the Baltic states, then Russia, where I am right now. I have not posted anything yet about Latvia and Estonia, but here's the short version, since this is the Russia board.
Riga: Awesome. Extremely beautiful and friendly women. Hooked up three times in four days, no P4P.
Tallinn: Awful. Overrun by drunks and tourists. Average women. Will never go back as this place is played out, at least in terms of freebies. Your milage may vary.
I have been in St Petersburg for a week and I love it. Don't know when I'm going to leave, because it is just so nice.
On the recommendation of this board, I booked a nice two-room apartment, on Fontanka, through www.roxana.spb.ru for 70 euros a night. Checked out Magrib, a ten minute walk away, on Thursday evening. Truthfully, I have trouble telling some of the pros from the non-pros in Eastern Europe, since so many normal girls are all dolled up, even during the day. Met a beautiful brunette, 8-9, who I made out with at the booth. Spoke nearly no English, but her friend interpreted. She didn't seem too keen on me pulling out my Russian phrasebook and physically put it away. Not sure why, but that limited the interaction. No sex, although she stroked my dick while we made out. Pleasant enough and free. For me, having the hottest girl at the club sitting on my lap, might be just as good as sex.
Backing up. Wednesday morning, I walked into the Mocca Cafe on Nevsky, had an Earl Grey, and spotted an incredible brunette working the counter. Although I had planned to brush up on my Russian while in Latvia/Estonia, no one would speak it with me once they knew I was an American. Anyways, I got the courage up to go back and ask this girl out, with perhaps thirty words of Russian under my belt. She seemed flattered and accepted. We went out on Friday night, to a great Indian restaurant called Kashmir. She said she had never eaten Indian food, and was hesitant to even eat, because she thought she was too fat and old. She was 24 and maybe 115 pounds -- that's probably the mindset of growing up where a higher percentage of women are stunning. Although she had a boyfriend, we made out like crazy on a parkbench and I brought her off with my hand down her low-cut Italian pants. She jacked me off and it went absolutely everywhere, and she laughed her ass off. No penetration, but still supercool. She told me she couldn't see me anymore because of the boyfriend. No problem.
Saturday night. Went to a great restaurant, The Idiot, with good vegetarian food. I figured that I should go to Marstall's at least once, to see what the deal was with this place. Let's just say, it was packed, I mean really packed, but I didn't see a single woman I would've taken home. That is, again, except for the awesome dancers. In a moment of temporary insanity, I slipped one of the dancers 20 euros in her garter, and she squealed, said balshoy spaseeba, then came and danced with me afterwards. Kind of a cool thing, in front of all the drunken tourists and flatheads. Then she was gone. Then Magrib, which was really happening. Met an amazing woman named Marina (8-9), who kissed me passionately in one of the booths inf ront of her less attractive girl friend, then agreed to meet me for lunch Sunday afternoon. By 3pm, we were in my apartment humping like bunnies. Awesome.
Sunday (tonight). Went to Magrib at about 12:30 am. Dead. There's nothing worse than loud techno playing while call girls dance on the floor by themselves to drum up business. But not a single girl that I would want to hook up with at all. One of the dancers, however, a 5'5 blonde with an amazingly hard body, was easily a 9.5. Really wanted a piece of that but never even got a chance to speak to her. In Las Vegas, I have often hooked up with dancers, particularly a Romanian girl from Sapphire, who became my girlfriend for two weeks last summer. Not here, it's a different dynamic. Had to split Magrib, so I came up here to CafeMax to write this report.
One thing I've not read too much on this board is all the potential meeting women during the afternoon. Yes, there are real beauties on Nevsky, but I think they are untouchable. Still, you just can't help but look, because some of them are really stunning. I decided to walk down Moskovsky Prospekt today, the full 10 km, and walked by some of the most paralyzingly beautiful women I have ever seen. One woman I passed was wearing hip huggers and a halter top and her not-too-visible abs showed through. Perfect 10. I got up the courage to play dumb tourist and we talked a while (her English was a little better than my Russian). She gave me a kiss on the cheek, but I admit I was too befuddled by her beauty to do anything. But potential, man, it is there, way down on Moskovsky, where it becomes suburbia.
Another prime spot was a park right next to (I can't remember the name) the Y-something cathedral. Lots of g-strings and topless women lying down. Sat down and talked up a couple of beauties who want to show me around on Tuesday. We'll see how that goes.
More later...
Zizz,
I am living in Saint Petersburg myself right now - been here for a few months.
The phrase-book problem you had - generally, the girls in Magrib, and similar locales, want to practice their English, so they don't want you to use a dictionary of any sort to speak Russian. They can be quite rude about this (I'm studying Russian, and have had plenty of such problems). I think I'd actually have more luck if I just gave up on speaking Russian, and played 'dumb tourist' as well.
Depending on how old you are (or on how young you like your women), you might try 'Metro Club'. You'll need to take a cab of some sort - a bit of a hike from Fontanka/Nevsky area. Any cab driver will know where it is. Only happening on Friday/Saturday nights, but, wow - the cutest 18-21 year old girls you'll find, anywhere. Given their age, you're not likely to score much more than some dancing and kissing, but that alone can be a bit of a thrill (then again, you may get luckier than me).
As for cabs - much cheaper to flag down private cars - regular cabs generally rip off tourists something awful.
hey everyone,
i'm in spb right now. met a girl on nevky yesterday who offered me 1hr for 1000 rubles, so taxi to my place it was. bargain.
went to marstall last night. it was ok, but i never got lucky :-(. same hookers there from last year.
anyone in spb wants to go for a drink and monger let me know. planning to go to a club every night i'm here. i leave on sunday.
send me a pm and i'll send you my numbers if you are in spb.
speed touch
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Hi all,
Was last week in SPB, somehow disappointed, girls all over styled and to much dolled.
However main reason I am writing is the apartment. Got one through Roxana, very helpflu and good service. Once in the apartment it was ok, nothing special for € 85.00 a day. had to clean jaccuzzi first, find out it did not work, sheets on bed covered bed only half, but worst was the enterence to the apartment. I never saw such an ugly and stinky entrance. Junkies around, alcoholics, their was not light nothing. So be carefull and ask whenever possible a photo from the entrance, this really was an horrifying expericence.
Ermano
e69... you've identified one of the biggest disappointments that people find when they go to a russian apartment. the apartment may be very nice, although what you described is inexcusable, but the entry may be disgusting.
the problem lies with the fact that when the ussr collapsed, people were allowed to "own" their apartments. so, in the subsequent years, in any given building some apartments have been renovated and remodeled to high standards and others are filled with babushkas with 60 years of accumulated junk. these babushkas are probably living on a pension which is next to nothing. so, if the owners of the upscale places try to get support from other apartment owners to remodel and/upgrade the entrance, they are met with scorn.
so, the entrances of many apartments which appear nice on the internet turn out to be rather disgusting. all you can hope for is a short-term apartment rental company that understands your concern and therefore take steps to only offer apartments with a reasonably clean and safe entrance.
you also identified one of my biggest pet peeves... bottom sheets that do not fit the bed. the worst thing in the world is to have a night of pleasure and the next thing you know you are rolling around on the bare mattress along with the friends of the last 100 guests at the apartment.... talk about unsafe sex! the russians seem not to have discovered fitted sheets and mattress covers! :)
fortunately not all russian apartments suffer from these problems...
in any case the reward is certainly worth the hassle, imho!
Hi Gentlemen,
Please one of you know some good russian chats?
Thanks in advance.
Luca
my experiences of spb last week. just walking around nevsky you see the mos amazing women and they wear next to nothing. if you know some russian it helps as usually the women do want to talk to you, but not so many know english :-(
i checked out a few erotic massage places first. 800r for 1 hour with a girl of your choice. usually a semi-erotic massage with hr at the end. these are in typical russian flats, so very dated.
next, i tried a few numbers i found on the net for intim services. the best one i found was 1500r for 1 hour. again choose the girl. this time the apartment was one of the best apartments i have seen. dark wood floors, sparkling bathrooom, stunning. the girl i chose was good, but she spoke no english. this place is near the technology institute metro. pm me if you want the number.
i tried another intim place near lennisky prospect. it was 1300r but it was such a run down apartment. the bathtub was rusty and smelled bad. the girls were ok, but it did not feel safe whatsoever.
went to marstall, chatted to the hookers to find out it was around 3500r for 2 hours - seemed to much so i ended up with a girl i chatted up. i went back to her apartment which seemed about 10miles out of town and spent the night with her.
i also went to club metro, but left after 1 hour as the girls seemed too young. either that, or i felt too old. give this one a miss.
speed touch
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I couldn't help but chime in on the apartment issues - first, the entrance and/or corridors are rancid, relative to the actual apartments, due to the fact that apartments are privately owned, but the common areas are still in the hands of the government.
In the U.S., and other western countries, the common areas are owned by a 'condo association' - basically, they common areas are owned collectively by the owners of the building. The associations have legal rights, and procedures, to enact policies, and force individual owners to go along whether they want to or not.
You can imagine, the government agencies in Russia, however, are little concerned with the condition of apartment building corridors.
As for the sheets - I've been here for several months, and still wake up almost every morning to a bare mattress. It is really driving me nuts. They can design/build nuclear bombs, but can't figure out how to size a sheet?! Oh well, we still sell hot dogs in packages of ten, and buns in packages of eight (or is it the other way around?).
Well I am back from pussy heaven to the desolate rural U.S.A. and damm I miss heaven. I spent 1 week in each of Kiev, Moscow, and St. Pete. General impression friendliest city and easiest to find amatures Kiev, Best selection and big city atmosphere Moscow, coolest city to be a tourist and still get laid St. Pete.
I arrived in St Pete from Moscow on the train, the fast train, this is a great way to travel. Was met at the station by Oksana's driver and taken to a great appartment on Nevsky. This place was great as was the service and about a hundred meters or less from Magrib.
I was a frist time visitor and wanted to do tourist stuff as well as monger. I used the internet to find a girl who wanted a free vacation and would serve as a tour guide but I did not tell her this. For me this was great I had true GFE with each of these girls and saved a ton of money on taxies, eating, and entrance fees and the best part was they were free. If you would like the details on how to do this see my posts under Kiev.
I used the first 5 days to play tourist scout out where to go and f*** like a rabbit with my tour guide. Then I sent her home and and did some serious mongering.
First was Marstall on friday night it was very good and a great selection. The opening bid from most girls was 5 or 6,000 rubels for all night. After 3 weeks in country I was patient waited and got that down to 4,000 for the night. She was dark hair and skin about 5'6" and maybe 110 lbs. All holes were used after a little discussion and a slap on the ass. Now even after this she curls up next to me sleeps like a baby and in the morning we do it again. Why the hell can we not find American girls like this?
Saturday was Magrib night and all I can say is WOW this place was packed after midnight with a selection that was just amazing! I ended up with a 19 yr old blond spinner that I wanted to stuff in my suitcase for the flight home. Cost was $120 american.
What I find truly amazing is not just the selection of young thin model like girls but how much these girls seem to enjoy sex! Where else in the world can you find this? If you take a little time and make sure they get off which they will rounds 2 and 3 or in the morning will be like nothing a typical American can find in the good ol U.S.A.
I am already planning next summers visit unless someone can tell me someplace else with girls like this and no I am not into Asians sorry.
If you need help with the internet guide thing read my Kiev posts before PMing me.
I really want to thank everyone here for sharing all the great info and helping me. I am sorry no pictures but next year I promise a new digital camera!
JDI
[quote]Hi Gentlemen,
Please one of you know some good russian chats?
Thanks in advance.
Luca[/quote]
www.sextalk.ru/chat
but first, you have to register and log onto site sextalk.ru
I am trying to contact a girl I knew in St. Petersburg. I posted a few pictures of her in the photo gallery. Last I knew she was living in St. Petersburg, but the mobile number I had for her is not working now. Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
[quote]
I am trying to contact a girl I knew in St. Petersburg. I posted a few pictures of her in the photo gallery. Last I knew she was living in St. Petersburg, but the mobile number I had for her is not working now. Any help would be appreciated.
[/quote]
Give me the link to the photos and her mobile phone number you have. If this is a working pros. 99% that there is some info about her in Russian forums...
Andy S,
I tried as you suggested me sextalk.ru and mail.ru,in sex talk only 10-14 persons every time I was there, in mail.ru, yes many rooms but it feels as you right told me very young people and a little racism against the persons in chat writing english or every language but the Russian.
So I am still searching for a good chat where to meet normal russian women.
Luca
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Lukasek
You can also try omen.ru.
But again, not many girls speak English.
You can also try to email instead of chat, so you have some more time to translate.
Mike #3
I tryed omen.ru, even less people than in sextalk.ru, but thanks for advice.
Luca
If anybody out there wants to go clubbing/trawling this week/weekend Sep 8-14 kindly drop me a line via PM. Thanks!
I've read months' worth of reports here, and appreciate all the research. Clearly have some clubs in mind for night time in St.P. But what about during the day? No Moscow-style Tochkas.... are there any decent daytime options? I know, I should just spend the time touring the "other" sights there are to see.
Ciao Gentlemen,
finally I went to beloved Russia for my second time, 10 days in Piter, amazing, funny, simply unforgettable!
1st day:
I choose Aeroflot, even if on plane was writting Pulkovo, cheaper and just curios to try it. The first and the last time: the food was ****, the hostess old women with noone little smile for 3 and half hours, not possible to put the troller, little baggage not above me but under my chair and so little chair, when it takes off near me was the exit door and start to drip..it was the first time I felt no sure in airplane, for 40 euro more I could have Austrian Airlines that I tryed for Msk, next time surely no doubt!
I arrived on airport and after half hour I was in my flat, I went to buy Megafon sim karta for mobile phone, I cooked spaghetti to try to feel as home in this town LOL, then I met with the first girl I knew in chat, she was normal, nice and we met in front of Magrib.
We went to Magrib to talk for about 1 hour, she was interested and asking non stop about Italy and noone questions about me, I smiled myself cause i realized immediately my first meeting it was only a waste of time and money, but who cares? Many, many nice women in Magrib, I looked to them and answering about the weather here and some very interesting, for me, questions..LOL!
Then she went home and I really wanted to go out for walk, I red here about SW in Nevksy Prospect, so time was about 3:00 am a little late and much tired but no desire to go sleep alone, I walked to Moscow station and then to stary Nevsky, about 10-12 SW, the price was about 2.000 for one hour, one told me 5.000 rubles for 2 hour with anal. Not expensive but surely they recognized me as foreign so surely overpriced me, I came back to Moscow station and I took a privat car for 200r and we came back to my apartment 200m from Nevsky, then I asked to driver to try to call some girls, most of them, or better, of the address he had didn't want to come to my flat. After about 15-20m he found and arranged for 2 girls, started raining as almost every day of my holiday and finally some minutes before dawn arrived a car with 2 girls inside, they wanted 2.000 rubles for 1 hour each and not possible anal or uncovered bj, they were about rate 5, so I said no thanks and went to sleep more angry than the driver!
2nd day:
The day started wonderful, I met with my 2 friends from California at noon, I met one of them in Msk in january and we have really great great fun, they used Aereoflot too and they lose the plane from Msk to Piter cause Aereoflot had 5 hours of delay, they also agreed no more Aereflot. We went for a walk to Nevksy where everyday many many girls so nice!
I bought Viagra, it was my first time, (read my report in Viagra section), in one of the many Pharmacy of Nevsky for one pill 100mg 600rubles, it was funny cause I really was shy to ask for it, after me 2 young women and about 3-4 persons, but nobody seems to care or to be surprised for guy buyiing Viagra even if one of 2 girls smiled for a while, however very good have it without prescription. I went home and broked in about 10-12 little pieces Viagra, I took one.
Then finally time to started have really fun, we went to a saloon near Nevsky that knew my friend, there were 3 women, 2 brunettes and 1 blond; the blond for me was about 9, really nice with amazing body, (see her fotos in photo section), I took her for one hour 1.500 rubles, much better than SW!
Her name was Viktorie, even if she didn't wanted to join me in shower, for me not a nice sign of her attitude, then she was really friendly, the kind hardly you find in flat-sex, she didn't wanted kiss each toher and anal, but no problem, she was so sweet or for a while I felt in love for her body and her sunny-smile. she gave me a good bj, and I immediately told her I wanted 69, luckily she allowed me LOL, her pussy was so beautiful with the kind of big lips I love, she enjoyed it and I asking to myself why I waited so long time to came back to Russia.
Missionarie, doggie style, missionarie on her left side touching soflty her clitoris, she was so nice with close eyes. Wow! Then I put off my condom and cum on her breasts happy as a child LOL!
We had each other a shower and she allowed me some pics, but when I started she changed idea so I did not many.
I felt nothing from Viagra, surely I took for fear of first time too little piece.
My second friend took first brunette and told me good too, the third not liked the third woman and was tired and went home.
Then walked back to flat it was everything nice, it arrived sun too, smoking slowly cigarettes and speaking with my friend how is gorgeous Russia, unbelievable hour for only 1.500 rubles and only the second day of my holiday!
The evening all 3 we went to Marstall, friendly place, most pro, I was really still horny, I spoke with 3 girls they wanted from 100 usd to 150 euro, but all 3 not all night long and if there's a thing I loved in Msk was tochka for all night long, so i said no even cause not possible to have in afternoon a girl really nice for 1.500 rubles and then going to pay so much for girls that in Marstal were about average 6,5!! So I enjoyed the music dancing until about 4 in the morning then went to sleep very happy for the memory of Viki in afternoon not sure for Marstall.
3nd day:
Saturday I met with one girl, from chat, and her friend in Jurnalist restaurant near Magrib, we spoke for few hours, the first date is always for me boring, you are going to pay when is quite sure you will have nothing mainly is she came with a friend. Then I walk as I did every day along Nervsky and then to flat cook for pasta and drinking good wine I took from home.
I met in evening with Stella, if somebody is interesting write me pm and I will give you her phone number and e mail: she was nice, and interested to have long term relation ship but I was too horny cause the wine that after few hours of speaking I started to kiss her, she enjoyed it, but then I tryed to take her home, I knew I did a big mistake going so fast, but however we stay together from 19h to 2am, but at 2am she told me not!
I was sure I lost her, cause I let her understood I didn't want with her nothing seriously even if she was smart too and pay never nothing and, this really surprised me, never say noone little thank! We went to Jakitorya restaurant, Tribunal to disco cause I told her I had, and it was true, to met with my friend. Tribunal was so slow, empty, so sad place, some pro but little old and noone really nice, for sure the worst place I was!
I saw the open bridge on Neva, during the white nights with sun light is have to be really very nice view; then I went walking home, it takes me about 1 hour of walking but I love to walk and to think by myself feeling always safe in Piter.
Soon the next report.
4th day:
It was sunday, nothing happens I went with my friends to private in afternoon, I took noone girl but he did and in the evening I met for a while with Stella, with her was really sad meeting, we spoke only a few and then I went home and went to sleep really early.
Not good moon from my side.
5th day:
Monday new week, I was used to wake up every day later, in the afternoon we tryhed to call one private, the girl told me ulica marskaya and I understood, I speak only little russian, ulica moskvoskaya, so we went to wrong street and I had to call her many times to understood my mistake, cause i thought my mistake was only not able to find right flat not to be so far from the right street.
However we found 2 girls, one very nice brunette and one blond so and so. I took blond cause she was in anal, I paid 2.500 rubles for one hour and she was really friendly, after asking some times i had also uncovered bj, anal was very funny, she had really tight ass and seem to like it.
Evening Marstall, not many people but it was monday and I was happy for afternoon.
6th day:
Tuesday afternoon we walked to Nevsky, always nice view in this street and I think it could be not difficult to know girls there but I am pretty shy guy so I did nothing and waiting for evening when we went to Red Lion, close to Tribunal where it was free lady champagne, it means one of the best disco I saw, many contact eyes and many normal girls. I spoke with Varya we changed our phone number, we danced, and finally about 3am we went to privat known by my friend near Moscow station.
There were 12, yes 12, girls I took one for 2 hours for 2 or 2.200 rubles, she was about 7 rate but really sweet that we started to french kiss in taxi after few minutes we saw for the first time. Natascia her name and I ask her for anal she agree for 1.000 rubles more. What can I say? I really love this women from privat about 7-8 as rate, they are so sweet, the most closer to girlfriend experinece, so cheap, so easy.
I post her foto in photo gallery.
7th day:
Wednsday was really nice and funny day cause I met with Doctor Skank and Ricardo Cabro, Ricardo had to work the day before and he was tired for the travel so he stayed out not for long time but with Doc we met in Marstall, not so nice evening only few persons, and immediately we left for Magrib, the best club for the beauty of her girls.
I talked a lot with Doc, we shared experiences and we agreed in many things; I went home alone but if I remember well Doc didn't LOL!
doc_skank and the white shoes: a tale of tails.
about two years ago during a homecoming trip to the us, i inexplicably fell in love with a pair of white leather shoes. beautifully crafted in italy, i was delighted with the shoes. proudly i stowed them away in my closet waiting for an opportunity to let them out, to let them ostentatiously beam in all their glory and bestow upon me the jealous glances of all those clad in non-white shoes. but alas, i had grossly miscalculated the frequency of opportunity i would have to show off my newly acquired purchase, not to mention the relative courage required to wear them, and alas², my white shoes would collect dust. at least they would have if they weren't stowed away deep in my closet. which they were. until last week.
last week, my white shoes were successfully revealed to the russian public in a much-celebrated moscow premiere.
the shoes were an instant success.
not only did i effortlessly breeze by face control goons too cowardice to stop someone so confidently wearing white leather shoes, they also brought me luck. by chance i met a long-lost old girlfriend named alexandra together with her lesbian girlfriend masha on pushkin square. perhaps meeting two lesbian girls on pushkin square is not so eventful in itself, however alexandra is a former model with runway experience in milan and paris, not to mention numerous magazine covers in moscow and her girlfriend masha a club dj. good people to know. that story goes in another direction, not less interesting, as i gained access to moscow's elite lesbian scene. scoff you do? moscow's elite lesbians aren't really lesbian. they're bisexual. scoff you shouldn't.
so the white shoes were paying off. so much so, that i wore them every day.
but this isn't a story about moscow nor even about white leather shoes, but rather about st.petersburg.
pt.1: magrib double team
now i have had my problems with st.pete in the past. despite a grudging repect for the beautiful architecture and the undeniably beautiful female populace, i had never really enjoyed the p4p scene there. ever since the once amazingly ho-laden hollywood nights disco went defunct (one time shortly after the financial crash two girls actually fought over me on the dance floor... the cute one won) and golden dolls metamorphisized from a sultry erotic mecca (a place were a few exaggerated boasts and a smile could get you to meet strippers after hours for "tea" and a "tour of the city". i met one girl by claiming to be a cnn reporter and i told another i was formula one driver and playboy eddie irvine.. lol) into a classic rip-off joint, i had not found much happiness in the arms of st.petes finest ladies. the marstalls stable is definitely hit and miss with mostly misses and i personally have never been happy at tribunal. saunas seem a very reasonable and attractive option (as detailed most recently by lukasek...thanks), but my schedule has never really allowed it... nighttime i prefer to go elsewhere.
btw: the golden dolls remont seems finished... hoping to hear positive news again from this place... mongering public, research please!
on this wednesday night in st.pete i was brimming with confidence. not only did i have my sex-magnet white shoes, i also had about 9000 rubles ($300) in my pocket since my mongering budget was left unrep001hed due to the above mentioned lucky circumstances of my moscow trip. very little could go wrong. even if they hated my white leather shoes in st.petersburg, i was still definitely going to get laid.
not only was i confident and rested, i was also in a very good mood, as i was due to meet lukasek at marstalls. and i had primed myself with music in my apartment. i enjoy using music to set my mood. today's selection was n.e.r.d. "fly or die" and it put me into a particularly sexually aggressive, fun and confident mood... which is exactly what was required for the evening.
we met at marstalls by default and left after a single somewhat tasty beer. arriving at magrib on nevsky prospekt (across from the corinthia nevsky palace hotel...which is sometimes refered to erroneously as the sheraton), i knew we had come to the right place. a good mix of russians enjoying a night out, a sprinkling of noticeable pros, some expats and a lot of girls were drinking at the bars, getting cozy in the various booths and tables and shaking it on the dancefloor. it seems like they were trying out a new dj as the usual guy wasn't working but rather just milling around chatting up girls, but the new guy was doing a fine job.
at some point (and after a rather caustic ersatz-red bull with double vodka) i spotted a girl that i thought i recognized. strolling over to her, i chatted her up, and even though i realized instantly that it wasn't my old friend, i still asked "ti dasha?" to which she replied "net" and turned away. she wasn't getting away this easy however, as i had already selected her to relieve my carnal desires. lucky girl.
no, she wasn't going to escape. at this point my white shoes must have been too tight, because i still naively thought she was an amateur. so i laid into one of my 7 standard routines. i am flexible in this of course as one must always be (go with the flow, right vegamars?), but when chatting up a girl in a foreign language in which i only possess average skills, i cannot be too selective in the initial conversational subject matter, the point is to get your foot (or cock) in the door. so i selected the "let's meet tomorrow and take pictures" approach, thinking that since she was non-pro (my false assumption) i didn't want to be too aggressive and scare her off and that if things didn't work out tonight with her i could still meet her for a second date the next day... and tonight i still had the failsafe marstalls and tribunal options, not to mention some of the salons that lukasek had told me about.
but i was smitten. she was about 5'4" (162cm) and slender, with short brunette hair highlighted with blonde streaks. she wore light colored fairly tight jeans and had a bare hardbody midriff, revealing a swarovski belly jewel (a good club dyev gift by the way, available on aeroflot duty free). her breasts were discreetly covered so that i couldn't really get a look, but that wasn't of consequence, as i was entirely focused on her face and eyes. she had crystal blue slightly oriental eyes... not of the central asian kind, but of the scandanavian kind iykwim, like estonian or swedish girls sometimes have. unbelievably beautiful.
well at some point she commented (she spoke nil english) somewhat increduously "menya fotografaet, besplatno?" (take pictures of me, without paying??) and i realized she was in the game. i wasn't disappointed, as i still had my wad of cash.
i pretended not to understand and she told her friend to come over to explain/translate. her friend was cute, but not really my type. (later she would turn out to be my type...everybody's type!) she was also short, but blonde and slightly stocky. i normally wouldn't have selected her. nonetheless, she had a cute friendly face and spoke average to poor english... basically the level of my russian. i asked the usual questions "iz pitre? kak tebya zavut? shto ti delaesh? vi studentki?" etc. turns out vika and lena were their names, vika from pitr and the blonde from siberia. as always, their names and places of birth may or may not be true... pros often give false information initially as we all know. it is irrelevant anyway.
the conversation progressed and i said that i wanted to take vika home, making myself very clear that i was totally infatuated with her. the two girls spoke briefly and the blonde one said that i would have to take both of them, they wouldn't go alone. what a shame i thought.
i faux-pondered it while we briefly discussed price and settled on $150. after the price was settled it was like flipping a switch... the girls became super excited and the little blonde even jumped up and down briefly, like she had won a stuffed animal at the local county fair. so i cut to the chase and said "davai". i briefly said bye to lukasek (who was standing by the dance floor) on the way out, who smiled and shook my hand for luck and i strutted out with the two girls in tow, gathering some coy smiles from the security guys and the taxi drivers outside as i proudly walked hand in hand with both of the girls. outside, we haggled with the taxi driver over price, even as i am sure he was thinking "why does two-girled white-shoe man need taxi, two-girled white-shoe man deserves helikopter!". hell, i would've even taken a helicopter, just as long as it wasn't one of those mi-8s that are always* crashing into the neva.
*relatively speaking.
we stopped at a 24 chasa kiosk for champagne, grapes and cigarettes (i hadn't had time to stock the fridge) and were off to my pad.
the entire trip there i was making out with both girls as one of them (sorry, i don't remember which) was stroking my already hard cock and i had shoved my hand down the back of the other ones pants, fingering her ass. lord knows why i was doing that, but it seemed like the thing to do.
the taxi driver, who looked vaguely like sex-maniac (respect!) english football coach sven-goran eriksson, was thoroughly enjoying the show through the rear view mirror, even as the windows of the volga cab steamed up to the point that the city appeared to be covered in some inexplicable 2am fog.
back at the pad the girls instantly disappeared into the bathroom and locked the door behind them... "damn" i thought. they are going to lez out in there and i'll be left out here alone with grapes and champagne...and my beautiful white shoes!
even as they disappeared, i strategically placed the condoms (i had optimistically bought a 12-pack earlier that day) next to the bed and made my musical selection. i was still full of energy, so i selected a dj keiko remix album with 18 remixed tracks of various club hits ranging from felix da housecat to benno benassi. fairly upbeat stuff, properly suited for power fucking.
remember that scene in "black hawk down" when the first helicopter goes down after being hit by a rocket and general garrison (i think) says "we just lost the initiative?". well that is what briefly happened to me. but in a nice way.
like 2 rpg rockets these two girls came out of the bathroom like a shot and slammed into me, their naked skin still glowing from a hot shower and warm and slightly wet to the touch... the girls were smiling broadly as they attacked me and i nearly fell back on the bed. still reeling from the incredible appearance of vika's slightly bulbuous perfect breasts bouncing as she charged towards me, the blonde tackled me and they both tore off my clothes, the blonde stuffing my cock into her mouth and sucking me slowly as vika peeled off my pullover.
my mother never told me there would be days like this...
we collapsed together on to the bed and it was a whirlwind flash of passionate three way kissing, groping, fondling and moaning. loud moaning. i really didn't know what hit me, but even as my music selection droned on in the background, the air in my apartment filled with the sultry essence of sweat and the sensual sounds of suckling lips, moans and squeals.
at this point i had recovered somewhat and regained the initiative, even though i allowed the girls a lot of room to interact with each other and me. they were doing such a great job that i didn't want to tor**** their mojo. they were in the flow. while blondie started on my cock again, vika was laying slightly perpindicular to me, across my chest. we were kissing passionately... real sex. her body position allowed me access to her beautiful smoothly shaped ****. both girls were shaved absolutely bare and had done a good job... probably just a minute ago in the bathroom... because there was no stubble whatsover. as my hand slid towards her box she spread her legs and i guided a finger into her, past her ever so slightly protruding soft pussy lips into her snatch. she was tight. very tight. and wet.
i was extremely turned on and blondie started reaching for a condom. not a chance baby. i ejected vika off of me and in a deft gymnastic move that probably should have broken my back (or scored a 9.8 in the olympics), i propelled blondie up on to my face, her legs spread wide so i could get a good look at that snatch before diving in. no, i was going to enjoy this to the utmost, fucking would come later. turns out blondie was much better built than i had originally thought. even though vika's slender curvy body and skinny (but not bony) ass was more my personal taste, blondie's solid ass and perfect skin were fantastic. she was in extremely good shape, and her mid-sized tits were perfectly shaped and formed.
i began to lick her pussy, suckling and moaning as i did so. she had since grabbed the bedframe behind me had (which she was facing) and was shaking the whole bed as she screamed and moaned, arching her head back in a poltergeist-esque maniacal thrashing as i ate her out. all the while my hand was banging vika's pussy from behind as she sucked my dick. after a while... a long while... i just had to taste vika's pussy so i went at it with her, the two essentially switching positions with each other. the interaction between the two was great, they traded kisses and occassionally licked each other, or did dual work on my cock... smiling and enjoying themselves the whole time. i the honest impression that they were really enjoying themselves.
the girls also were into each other and finally, after a truly prolonged foreplay session, i decided to move in for a poke. i first pounced on the blonde, sliding into her while in missionary position and then throwing her legs over my shoulders. i ruthlessly thrashed her, squeezing her ass and providing her with intermittent kisses and an occasional breast squeeze while rodding her deep. she was writhing and moaning, her body straining together with mine, occasionally bucking in spastic loss of control. she was screaming out in english "i love you so much! i love you so much!", throwing her hand in front of her eyes and after a relatively short time she began uttering some incomprehesible mini-scream that dragged on for 20 seconds or so. vika sat up looking slightly shocked at her friends ecstacy and looked at me and gave me a coy smile as i pounded her. finally i switched girls, pulling slowly out of panting blondie and roughly grabbing vika, swinging her around like a rag doll and pulling her towards me. blondie was sitting up now on the other end of the bed and as i passionately kissed vika i admired the perfection of her nude body underneath me. she gazed up at me wantonly as i softly clutched her breast... switching the speed of my sexaul assault for effect. i slowed... trying to gather sexual chemistry between us, to raise the level of eroticism. it worked. the atmosphere changed and i could feel her tension and excitement rise as i prepared for entry, my rock hard cock lingering in front of her hole, which seemed somehow impossibly small. grabbing my tool with my left hand and supporting myself with my right arm, i guided myself slowly into her. she was tight, very tight. as i slid into her, i gently moved my rod up and down the entrance of her pussy, wetting the tip of my condomed penis and slowly sliding in. she yelped.... and as i slid into her and began rhythmically moving her yelps became screams. the visual image of looking down at myself impaling this girl, her eyes wide with excitement and her hands clutching my biceps as i supported myself above her and my hard tool slides into her shaved bare pussy, her pussy lips tightly embracing my rod, still excites me.
i increased the tempo and proceeded to fuck her in a fashion similar to blondie and vika began screaming really loud. i thought i was killing her. the neighbors must have hated me. meanwhile blondie was stroking my back and even tried to finger my a-hole, but i gently brushed her hand away... i am not into that, but i appreciate her effort to try to please me. vika became panted and out of breath at some point (how i kept going i don't know) and i slowed, drawing out of her. she said something like "mne bolna" (i hurt) and i said i was sorry, i would be more gentle next time. she smiled and gulped slightly, her face flushed and her heart racing.
we had been going at it well over an hour (the cd was ending) and i decided to switch the mood, putting in "death in vegas", a syntho-pop ambient sound with electronica and psychoodelic undertones. it created an erotic atmosphere lacking the aggression of before, but i needed a change...as not only had i thoroughly pummeled these girls, i had also exhausted myself to a good degree. i lit another set of candles, opened a bottle of champagne and took a sip or two, toasting the girls. i think they thought they were done, but i was still visibly hard and motioned for blondie to flip over so i could fuck her from behind. she looked at me astonished and said "yescho?" (more?) and i said a simple "da". i told her to eat out vika while i was doing it. so now vika is lying on her back while blondie was on all fours, licking vikas pussy slowly as i, standing in the room at the edge of the bed, slid into blondie from behind. it was a slow monumental fuck... the sounds of the music (set at slightly lower volume), the dim lighting of the candles and the slurping sounds of me sliding in and out of blondies's pussy and blondie's tongue flicking over vika's tiny pussy, combined with vika's soft moans and my gentle pants, created a completely different atmosphere than that of before, which was characterized by the wildly creaking bed, vika's banshee like screams and blondies wild moaning and enthusiastic abandon. clutching blondie's firm ass with one hand, i fingered her ass a bit with the other before slowing and deciding to come... but not with blondie, but rather with vika. i told blondie i wanted vika and blondie sat down on a chair, sipping champagne while i prepared to remount vika. vika looked worried..."mne bolna" (i hurt) she repeated with distress in her eyes... i assured her i would be careful and slow... which i was. i reentered her...she yelped again... but softer... and i rhythmically fucked her slowly, kissing her passionately in between thrusts... she began to moan softly and clutch me tighter... i collapsed on her and we clutched each other tightly, continuing for sometime as blondie eagerly (and perhaps jealously) watched... before i finally came with a few final powerful yet gently controlled thrusts, staring into vika's wide open excited eyes, panting in rhythym with another. supporting myself above her but still inside her, i panted slowly and stared at her, she clutched my arms and back without letting go and we simply stared into one another's eyes for several moments. in these few moments we were the only two people in the universe... we had entered sexual nirvana. it was silent in the room (at least i wasn't hearing the music) and finally after some time i heard blondie question her friend cautiously ... "vika?"
we remained still. after another few seconds of pause, i slid out of her and went to wash up. the evening slowly ended... all three of us spent. as i sent them out (i had to work the next day and needed "real" sleep) we kissed and i gave them 5000 rubles, about $170. blondie said "i love you so much!" and vika smiled as she touched me and said "ti superman".
i felt like it.
gfe? a night like that explodes any conceptual notion of what gfe is for me. i have no idea what that was. it was more than gfe. it was raw passionate sex. for money. and it was wonderful. nights like that make me forget the average performers and keep me in the game. in the hunt. those who have been there, and i trust and hope many of us mongers have, know what i am talking about.
it was on par with some of the very best nights i have had, including one incredible girl from cf that i never saw again and suspect was a true freelancer, there to earn perfume money and not a regular. perhaps the same was true of these two. i haven't seen them since.
but i'll be wearing the white shoes again sometime soon.
Are you a staff writer for Penthouse Forum, doc?
I am green with envy, you dog.
Two thumbs up! (And I know where you'd put them!)
-Uncle Otto
doc... and photos will be appearing soon?
Great report, but only one question... Did you wear the freaking white shoes in the rack? OR, was the glow from the closet enough to sprinkle pixie dust on the girls?
Doc,
Just to clarify, 5000 rubles for the both of them? or 5000 each (which wouldn't make sense, since you said you had only 9000).
8th day:
Thursday started very good with sun day, breakfast with honey and bread..at noon as usually, lol, in the afternoon I went to sauna for the first time and it was so unique experience that I will post soon a detailed report about it with some pics.
At evening I knew I had to meet with Doctor_Skank again, me and my friends went to Jakitorya, very good Japanese restaurant and then we went to Rossi's disco where there were real many nice girls. After about one hour my friend went to sleep and I enjoy the strip show of Rossi's, real high quality of show, or maybe she was too cute to pay attention if she danced well or not.
People started to went home, disco was less crowded when Doc arrived and joined me and for me it was a pleasure to hunt with him; we immediately started to "attack" the girls...ehm, I think I have to explain it better: Doc was always the first went to speak and to know the girls, I just followed him, I am pretty shy guy but surely he knew do it better than me, not only cause he speak Russian but also cause he choose so cute women, so I was happy to trust and follow him!
After some talking with girls he saw a really very cute blond sit down at table with other 2 girls, we went there and we spoke with these girls for about half hour, they were really friendly and happy to speak with westerners; then we went to dancefloor where after while arrived also the girls. We dance all together and there was really fun cause we enjoyed the dancing and the music without thinking if we had truly chance to sleep with these girls or not.
However when we came back to table for drink, a woman, little brunette asked me if I wanted to dance with her, she really surprised me a lot cause I never seen her before in dance floor or had eye contact with her and cause I was speaking with one of the three Doc knew, but I danced with her and then I invited her for a drink. after some minutes of talking Doc joined us, I say luckily cause my english is not so good specially when I am little drunk, lol, and it was funny cause at the beginning seem enough clear that the girl was in trouble without decide between me or Doc. It was funny and quite strange and when she went to toilet I immediately spoke with Doc asking for what to do, cause the last thing I want to do is to risk to break a friendship between two men for have sex with the same girl.
It happens often all around the world but it is so stupid cause you can buy sex but friendship never!
And now I have to say that Doc was the real Gentlemen I knew from his reports here in this forum cause he immediately told me and suggested me to invite her to my flat ( and this not cause she wasn't nice enough, even if she wasn't a knock out, she was a type of girl you absolutely don't want to miss cause so sweet and tenderness), I did it, but she at first moment agreed and then she told me I don't know; Doc spoke with her and then told me she still didn't decide with who go to sleep.
I was tired, drunk and I really didn't enjoy that situation, it means: I never had good opinion of every woman not able to choose between two men and most of all I had the bad feeling she really enjoyed that situation of two men "fighting" for her.
So I am pretty sure I deeply suprised her and perhaps little disappointed too cause no fight, no problem, I said her thanks for the dance with a big smile as if immediately I realized I had a naked top model waiting in my bedroom: obviously I hadn't but my only problem it was not a disappointed Doc or to dispute or wrangle with him (and this is ALWAYS a quite sure risk when there is one woman that enjoy this situation and both of guys are horny as young bulls LOL!)
So I wish good luck to my new friend and I immediately left Rossi's without look at her; what happened to them I will let Doc, if he wants, to write about it, I had only one problem, to find a top model to have sex at 6:00am and an impossible mission in my sex prison at home is so easy mission in Russia.
Tania, I post right now her pics in foto gallery, she wasn't cute but she very good filled up my need to have some orgasms: the really only need I had after a very nice night of real fun, hunting, drinking and joking with a great guy, cause always sex is what we are all looking for but sometimes not the most important thing.
9th and 10th days:
The last 2 days I had sauna every day, I met with Doc and with my other 2 friends as well and we went on friday to Money Honey, nice but nothing more, Rossi's nice but not so good as thursday and both days we finished to Magrib that seem to be the place to go in Piter.
I had sex in sauna on friday and in privat in saturday afternoon and sunday early morning and I will post this with foto soon.
However I had to say I was a little sad in my last 2 days of holiday, maybe I could have more fun but simply my mind felt at home 2 days before my body went there lol.
Day 2 of the Shoes.
I stumbled through most of the Thursday in a pair of black Ted Baker shoes, fashionable in their own right, but lacking the flamboyant eroticism of my white shoes. Nonetheless, after a busy work day I found myself at some secret location in an underground club called "Mafia Club". Supposedly secret and exclusive, this is really just a club where a game is played in which 10 players and a moderator try to determine which 3 of the ten are mafia and which are citizens. Thankfully I didn't have to play, but rather sat at another table while we waited for our turn. I did enjoy the stay nonetheless, as seated at the table next to me was a squeaky-voiced 46kg blonde spinner who, even as she told me of her planned wedding to someguy somewhere she was massaging my cock under the table. I slid my hand far enough up her skirt to feel the moist heat of her twat and may have even pursued this farther if she hadn't been an employee of one of my business partners, seated across from us... with 8 other business associates. Besides that, I wasn't feeling entirely confident without my white shoes. So rather than maneuver myself into a inextracatable situation, I made a somewhat legitimate excuse to leave (work the next day) and got up from the table, barely concealing my hard-on as I made my way for the door to the street to catch a taxi.
I jetted home, showered and changed quickly, playing an aggressive track or two from a "Korn" album to put me in a proper mood before heading out for Rossi's Club.
Rossi's is essentially behind Gostviny Dvor in a side street, but not particularly easy to find, so taking a taxi is recommended. I walked, and while walking I passed 2 streetwalkers who were working Sadovaya ulitsa. A couple of cars even slowed or stopped to check them out. Didn't look all that special though.
Like Magrib, Rossi's is in a cellar and a mid-sized club with a single dancefloor. The crowd was quite good on this Thursday night, and a subsequent visit on Friday would determine that the Thursday night crowd was actually the better crowd.
The attending public was noticeably younger than Magrib and in fact the first three girls I spoke to seemed younger than the 18 they claimed to be and I quickly left them for other pursuits. It was a pleasure to meet Lukasek again and we enjoyed ourselves tremendously, drinking a beer (or three) and if I recall correctly, a single tequila. I do make a point to say we never really got drunk during our adventures, as keeping your wits about you is not only smart safety-wise, but does make you a more effective hunter. Unless of course you are at Real McCoy in Moscow where sober people are generally and rightfully shunned and being properly bombed has never hindered my success, perhaps only my judgement.
Soon we found three blonde girls standing alone and began a conversation, I am not sure what we talked about, but that was irrelevant. I think I went off on a tirade about how much I love Russia, which is true, and I saw the pleasure in their eyes as I propelled their country to the forefront of my cultural respect. The previous night's unforgettable double team from Magrib had further increased my appreciation of this country in a manner I cannot properly explain. Soon we were on the dance floor, Lukasek with his blonde and me with mine. Having not even exchanged 20 words with her yet (she didn't speak any English) I pulled her close to me and sensing her willingness, we began to kiss passionately on the dance floor, vaguely moving to the rhythym to at least maintain some semblance of social behavior and avoid blocking the dance floor and avoid interrupting the pleasure of club revellers.
After our dancing orgy with the two blondes, Lukasek and I had a brief staff meeting in which we were both receiving vibes from the girls that kissing and flirting were all good, but a one night stand wasn't likely at all. I think the third wheel, sitting depressed at a table now, was cramping our style. It may be better to expand our horizons and seek other options we thought. And of course there is always the failsafe.
At some point Lukasek had been accosted by a girl and taken to the dancefloor while I chatted up a rather depressed recent divorcee who, as chance would have it, was the girlfriend of Lukasek's new girl.
I soon abandoned the depressed divorcee to her own melancholy and seeing Lukasek, joined an interesting conversation with the short haired brunette. She was a very pretty lady for her age... she was 36 and well-maintained. She was also very intelligent and the conversation was genuinely interesting. So much so that I briefly forgot that I was trying to get laid. At some point things get hazy here though, as a weird situation developed in which the club was slowing and we were all determined to take someone home. I really didn't feel like activating the failsafe at this point and the three blondes had since left. Mind you I did make an effort to get mine to come home with me, but it was a no go. She said she had a "problem" to work out first. As it turned out, she never did work out her problem and we didn't meet again. I am not sure if her problem was named was Sergey, Pavel or even Tampax. Fine by me though, as I have a zero tolerance girlfriend policy in St.Pete, as having girlfriends in a city carries as many disadvantages with it as advantages.
As detailed in Lukasek's report, the new short-haired brunette was interested in us both but she couldn't decide. I even offered the double team, which she balked at. I offered to take her depressed friend home instead and told her to go with Lukasek. She wasn't sure. I told her she'd better fu*#ing make up her mind as it was getting late and I didn't want to be up all night. I think she made a practical decision however and realizing that she would likely see me again as I am in Russia regularly and Lukasek is not, she decided to go with me. As Lukasek detailed in his report, I am in total agreement with him that a woman should never create conflict between two friends and I was totally prepared to go home alone happy if she had gone with him. As it turned out good for me, I thank him for his chivalry.
Nonetheless, SOMEBODY had to fuck her and I was lucky enough to be that guy. And she did say (I am seriously not joking) just before we left "Those are really beautiful white shoes".
Back at the pad I cleaned out her pussy cobwebs with my prod and must say it wasn't a bad thrashing at all. She did enjoy the attention and I even spared her the medieval power fuck treatment and set the musical tone at a more sensual level, playing (ironically) the "Lost in Translation" soundtrack instead, providing a more subtle sexual ambience. I may see her again someday, as she very well understands that it is a sex and coffee relationship only, which is fine by me. As I am in my "all Slavic female (within reason of course) appreciation" phase, I did appreciate her very much.
Here she is all curled up and satisfied.
Judging from Lukasek's Tania pictures, he may have gotten the better part of the deal anyway...
Tokya via AA:
I paid 5000 rubles total. The deal was $150 for both and since I only had rubles and Euros, I elected to pay 4500 rubles ($150) for the deed and give each 250 ($8) rubles for taxi and tip.
Day 3: Dirty shoes
I was already more than pleased with St.Pete and after last nights freebie I was more than happy to select a pro on this night. Of course I would try to get some free action first, but there was no desperation in my intention.
This would turn out to be a whirlwind night in which I am really not exactly sure of the precise course of events. I vaguely remember working that day, as well as exchanging an SMS or two with Svetlana The Blonde I Would Not Meet and the 36 year old Armenian girl from Rossis the night previous.
After a brief meeting with a Russian friend of mine I learned that the night before he had been attacked by 3 guys and clubbed with a baseball bat. As luck would have it, the baseball bat guy wasn't much of a slugger and thankfully missed my friend's tee-ball head, instead just knocking him to the ground. My friend proceeded to knock baseball guy unconscious for a few moments before being jumped by the other two and being beaten and kicked into dreamland himself. My friend miraculously survived and the 3 fled, stealing only his camera and not his life. When the militia arrived 3 hours later they astonishingly asked him deadpan and without any hint of sarcasm:
"Why did you call us? You are still alive and can walk! We only come to pick up the dead and crippled."
Turns out my friend had been jumped by a gang of three that are well known in St.Pete and had already killed a few people, stealing whatever cash and goods they could. So do be careful out there when walking around after midnight. This happened in central St.Pete in a dimly lit area about 1 km off of Nevsky. The only reason my friend is alive and without anything more than superficial damage is because he is tough as nails, lucky, blessed and any combination of the three.
Shaken not stirred and somehow inspired by my friend's story I bought him a couple of beers to sooth his aching bones and then went home to change into my standard club outfit for this trip... the white shoes and this time a Hilfiger pullover. I am not necessarily a label guy, but wearing designer label clothes in Russia does pay off occassionally. Not only do girls notice (even if not consciously), the door men at clubs do as well, although with my white shoes I'm in like Flynn anywhere anyway... provided of course they let guys like Flynn in. I also wear designer label underwear, whether from Hilfiger, D&G, Boss or whatever. I suggest buying this at outlet stores or through internet discounters. Relatively affordable actually, it does pay off as the quality IS actually better than most generic brands and girls do respond well to being fucked by guys clad in stylish underclothes. Think I'm joking? Try it out yourself. Personality and chemistry go a long way(s) with girls, however hitting the primordal instincts of a women also doesn't hurt.
Designer label = money = good provider = bring mammoth meat to cave = mating material
Besides that, style and money in any combination make girls horny.
Oh yeah, I was walking through St.Pete and having called up Lukasek, we decided to meet. Now this is the part that I don't remember. I think we met at Money Honey, which if I recall was nothing special. In a Terminator-esque quick scan of the premises I spotted exactly two girls that met my taste (at this point in the evening my taste still being refined) and both were occupied. Besides it was early and I wasn't too interested in staying at Money Honey any longer than it took me to finish my beer.
I can't remember if we went to Rossi's directly at that point or to Magrib. If memory serves correctly, we went to Rossi's, which was good but somehow lacked the mojo of the night previous.
While at Rossi's I did try out the single most creative come on line ever, blowing away my previous favorites: "Are you Masha?" "Are you Dasha?" "Are you Sasha?" and "You've got a piece of parsley stuck between your teeth" .
Spotting a very petite 160cm 45kg sex monkey, I strolled up to her and with absolute conviction and announced ceremoniously "ti ochen sexy!" Now I have no idea if I somehow managed to fuck up the grammar in this brief bold three word declaration of my adoration and respect for her ability to wear sprayed on white trousers, but a conversation did ensue and we traded phone numbers. Will I break my zero tolerance gf policy in St.Pete? I doubt it, but when I do meet her next time I am going to try really hard to bed her. Something tells me she is going to be a sexual dynamo.
Realizing that Rossi's really wasn't all that on this evening, we decided to go to Magrib and I can't remember if we actually went to Marstalls first. Like Wednesday, Magrib was very good on Friday as well and although there were numerous normal girls there of very good quality, I nearly instantly selected a blonde girl I knew was hooking, judging by her cheap yet sexy Miss Sixty clothes and the way she was holding her faux Gucci handbag, standing at attention as if she was waiting for a command, wearing an odd smile and not much more.
The business meeting lasted not more than 20 seconds and we agreed on the standard $100 fare, although I warned her it was going to be an all nighter and that I was going to fuck the shit out of her. This seemed to excite her and her brown eyes lit up somewhat and she beamed a beautiful smile revealing pearly white perfectly shaped Irkutskian dental work.
She went by the name Lada (like the car) and she did in fact ride a little bumpy.
I wasn't kidding however about fucking the shit out of her in an all-nighter, I certainly did. I selected Miss Kittin as the nights music, basing my selection on the ever-changing rhythym and tempo of Miss Kittin's electronic sound. It did provide for much musical inspiration and we had a truly wild session. So much so that my 60 minute DV tape ran out and I actually missed the cumshot. Still, a multi-positional fuck-a-thon has been added to my collection. Judging by her screams and moans and such charming conversational soundbites as "fuck me deeper!" and "harder! faster!" and some Russian phrases I really wish I knew what they meant. I think she repeated "Vozmeet menya" a few times. At one point I switched the music back to "Death in Vegas", which again provided for good atmosphere, especially while fucking her ass to her primordal groans.
She reminded me of a grade A tochka girl. Somehow she didn't feel professional and we had excellent chemistry, I believe she is one of those freelancers that goes from club to club, working periodically to earn enough money to survive. And she survives well, having been to any number of exotic locations around the globe. She mentioned also hooking at a club called Akvarium, which is frequented by Russians. I asked if she had more Russian or Western customers, she said "Russian". When I asked her who paid more, Western or Russian, she answered emphatically "Russian!".
Anybody ever been to Akvarium? I'd be curious to find out if there are more such exotic fish in that sea.
I gave her 90 € (which I told her was a bit more than $100) and 150 ruble taxi fare, even though I walked with her past the winter palace into town, where I was to meet the 36-year old woman from Thursday night for coffee before attending a business meeting. Arriving for the meeting at the hopelessly overpriced yet not untasty Sadkos on Nevsky (as part of the Grand Hotel Europe complex), my business partners took one look at me, laughed and immediately ordered a beer for me. I do love doing business in Russia.
A picture of her is in the photo gallery sextion. She was wonderful.
SAUNA
This report is for The Doctor that if I remember well he still doesn't try it and for Sexplorer, another big friend that soon he will be in Russia again and that he asked info about sauna in Moscow section and I am sure he will report greatly and obviously for all never tried sauna in Russia.
Everybody is looking for something new, specially in holiday sometimes sex is not enough and we would like to try something different, connecting to sex but new experience..just big fun!
1st day:
Thursday early afternoon me and my buddy in his flat with some turistic guides of Piter in English and pc and obviously telephone, the idea: to find good sauna, order girl and have big fun. It seems very easy...it wasn't!
First of all I speak only really basic Russian and sauna or banya is the favourite hobby of russian men and not westerners, this is why after half hour of phone calls we still didn't find noone banya speaking english.
I decided to ask to my friend, girl, by sms one address of sauna, she immediately answered and we immediately go out, pick up a car and go there; it was on second floor, the building tipically sovietic style, not nice, I mean..bad and old, but who care, inside I asked for privat sauna for 2 hour, towels, shoes, beer, water, and all in basic russian and he understood very well. Then I asked "devushki" and he understood nothing! Me and my buddy smiled a lot! I asked one more time, help my russian with my hands movements...he understood and said NET!
It was immediately clear was not possible to order girl, so we decided to try our first time in sauna without women.
For all who never tried sauna I have to say that when you take a privat room you usually have dressing-room, one or two, 2 showers, the sauna and near it there is a swimming pool with really cold water. We had no problem with money and pass cause we closed the door from inside. Usually you do a shower and then you go directly inside,the fire of hell! Cause I don't know how I can explain 100C of temperature, I think my first time I stayed there 2 minutes and then run out fast. I have to say I am a guy who loves winter and cold instead of summer, but we were in Russia!
So I went inside the cold swimming pool and then I was able to enjoy sauna for about 5 minutes; then shower and swimming-pool and again it all.
After 15-20 minutes you start to enjoy sauna, the warm inside make you hard to breathe but is better than beginning, drinking beer help to relax cause is enough 1 liter of beer and you fell drunk as never before LOL! Seriously is amazing, you relax deeply, very very nice! When you are in sauna you think to cold water in swimming pool, when you go there you desire the hot sauna and drink, sometimes water too.
When you are in sauna you also feel so good, in a sort of very hot nirvana that you could be able to speak and to tell all your life to your friend close to you include the pin of you credit card LOL!
Then you finish with bath in swimming pool.
I wanted and had also a masaze, from man. Sigh!
But real good masaze, then I went out and I remember I walked in the street softly as only cats do!
All for less than 30 euro. Who wanted comeback home?
2nd day:
It was clear that I was able to find the only one sauna in all Mother Russia with no possibility to order women and this is why I sincerely suggest you...never ask address of sauna to your friend girl, cause she will send you in sauna with no sex for sure!
Friday afternoon it was the moment to show my russian on the telephone, cause no more sauna without girls!
I think I called about 10 sauna and speaking russian as a baby without conjugate noone verb I found that 2 sauna had free privat room and when I asked "eta mozna devuskhi sex?" (is it possible girls sex?) the woman in first sauna answered with while of silence and then da and the man at the second sauna, it was more expensive, he immediately answered "da, da!".
So I suggest to go in lux sauna, where for sure they will know very well that westerners often go to sauna not for sauna..
We went out to pick up normal car, but there were so many auto in Nevsky that I called again asking for which station metro (kakaya metro?) and I was happy cause or my 6 years to go to czech republic and my very good knowledge of czech help me a lot (more than one word are very similar, for example the numbers) or russian language is not so difficult, at least for some basic russian sentences.
When we arrived to sauna the woman smiled cause probably understood who we were LOL! She walk to back of the building and me and my buddy getting afraid cause the entrance was really ugly, half building was in recosrtuction but as often in Russia what you see outside can be very different for the inside of building or house!
I asked her one more time where they were the girls, my biggest problem and she smiled and said moment!
So we went to start sauna after 10 minutes of playing soccer table, really funny (even if the ball is not as normal in plastic stuff but made by iron!!) when...knock at the door, there was a old woman, mamason, and 4 blond woman...FINALLY!
The price was 2.000 rubles per hour, 2 were ugly overweight, one not bad and the 4th really cute!
My buddy knowing that after 2 days I leave Russia let me had the nicer girl, we payed and then started the problem or better the trouble.
It appear soon that my girl was nice but also smart and we both were afraid about money and passport,cause she didn't want to enjoy sauna and we didn't want to let her out and free in dressing-room,so she was my girl, I was responsable for her, so we sit down on sofa with beer and cigarettes when my buddy enjoy sauna with her not-stupid woman!
After a while of talking I open my towel and I asked her with big big smile to help me to relax more, she took my hand and we went directly to dressing room.
There we closed the door and it was funny cause we were naked, so no wasting time to undress; the dressing room had no chair but a sort of bed and I immediately lied down with her between my legs with her professional hand working on my friend; I put my hand on the back of her head, cause I wanted, but I think I had to write I need, bj but she refused without condom, in 2 seconds I asked "how much?", she refused one more time and it made me sad but I tryed to enjoyed it.
Bj was nice and at certain moment I was on my left side with my right leg against the wall with her still sit down on her knees in front of me; she had really cold hands and was a pleasure feeling her hands caress my balls and my ass but it was the moment to put her in doggy style where we started the action: she was tight as pornostar but quite wet, however she had so nice ass that I tryed to enjoy anal and try to guess...oopps..she refused and made me so sad as pig before to go to butcher's house, so I did the only thing I could do...I fucked her hardly and fast thinking to send her out of the door as soon as possible to enjoy the last minutes of sauna!
3rd day:
The best day cause we met in afternoon, immediately we went to privat for have sex and then to sauna to enjoy it, I cared not so much to have sex in sauna again cause it was my last day in Russia so I wanted to enjoy sauna as weel as possible.
Suggests:
-All it depends what you are looking for: if only a new experience, so order the girl to owner of sauna and enjoy it, if you want to be sure, so go to privat and take a woman you like, and that she do what you like..LOL , directly to sauna.
-Now I could go there also alone, noone problem about it, but you enjoy better with one friend or with woman but surely better alone in sauna that sit down in a bar looking at the window.
-Better to give your money and passport to owner of sauna and forget about it!
-You are wrong if you think you need speaking good russian to find and to have great fun in sauna:if you know noone sauna, just take taxi and ask for it, and when you find sauna tell to owner girls, he will smile but understand, no problem.
-After sauna try masaze,specially if you had sex in sauna, you will feel the king of the universe!!!!
-I always felt little tired after sauna, one night I drink all night only pepsi in disco. Try to drink alkohol in sauna and you will save money...2 beers is enough LOL!
-Sauna is so cheap and you feel really amazing after it, I think that the hot of sauna, the cold water in swimming pool and do it many times, to sweat as in hell really clean your body and not only your skin.
-Try sauna or you cannot say you was in Russia LOL!
Credits:
-If I went to Russia with the need to try sauna it was cause Sam2004 in Ukraina posted very nice foto and cause he was so kind to write me pm with suggests and informations about it, so THANKS Sam from my side for all the fun I had and surely will have again and also thanks from my friend!
-To my friend JG that join me 3 times in 3 days and cause he allow me the nicest woman LOL!
I will post foto in photo gallery.
OK, so the good Doctor and Luasek are starting to make me regret the fact that I have but <b>one</b> night in St.P in a couple of weeks.
Doctor: How much of your success would attribute to your ability to speak some Russian, vs. the shoes and labels etc?
Based on all the reports, I'm figuring on Magrib being the most likely interesting stop for the evening of my visit. Of course, there's a part of me that hopes that my daytime tour guide is a) female and b) has some advice on how to spend the evening and/or c) decides she simply can't leave me alone for the night :) (oh, any recommended personal guide services/tours? I was looking at RussianGuideNetwork but they're a bit pricey and have a turn-off "don't sexually harass the guides" warning on their site. PM is fine)
And excellent reports Lukasek, too! I didn't mean to slight you by forgetting to mention this in my last post.
Uncle Otto
PS - And L, don't forget to apply for a Senior Membershp upgrade.
Lukasek:
First of all my compliments to Lukasek, he provided great info in detail and I second Otto's recommendation for senior status. If you haven't yet applied Lukasek, do so. Not only have you provided very interesting insight into the not-so-well documented sauna scene, you blessed our forum with many photos. Thanks and happy hunting!
Tokyo:
Speaking Russian obviously helps, but isn't absolutely necessary. Still, I must admit that many girls I've had spoke little or no English. Now my Russian is not great by any means, in fact it sucks. But I do speak at a level enough to hold basic conversations and make some timely compliments. Russian girls universally complain that they aren't complimented enough. (???!!!)
So yeah, any Russian you can learn will help. If nothing else, a shy girl who doesn't want to embarass herself in front of you by speaking poor English will hear you speak atrocious Russian and then suddenly feel compelled and confident enough to try her non-existent but suddenly not so awful English after all.
The labels thing is true, but is really just an accessory to your success. A lot of factors contribute to your success, I just try to mention a few that do help.
As for the white shoes, I swear it worked for me... but maybe 1 white shoe wearer is enough for Russia. I think brown and black shoes also will work just fine... :)
And my suggestion for any lurkers out there is just to go to Russia (or the Ukraine) and try it out. I can't imagine anyone regretting their trip. It really isn't just the girls, Russia is a wonderful country and if you've never been, you'll never be the same afterwards.
Lukasek and Doc:
These past series of reports have been amazing and excellent examples of the kind of investigative journalism WSG is all about.
Knowing how time consuming it can be to write such reports, I wanted to thank you both for your time and effort as well as your generosity in sharing your experiences with the rest of us.
Sexplorer
I apologize for delay of my answer, but One Ghost I thought sleeping in heaven ( or hell?..) comeback in my life. My exgirlfriend after 4 years of silence. Not nice to have trouble about Love Better to forget all them!
So I truly thank You dear friends for your kind words!
Sexplorer is right that report needs time to write, mainly for who as me live in not-speaking english country, so I had to find my vocabolary before start to write here LOL!
It is unbelievable that so many guys view the foto, for example the last foto in Czech Republic is mine and even if posted 5 weeks ago was view from about 8 thousands members, and that the reports are written more or less from the same members and I don't think that all the 8.000 members go to holiday 2-3 times at year as me, but what to do?
Long life to this forum and to all contribute it!
In few days I will ask upgrade, thanks for friendly suggest!
PRIVAT SALOON
(If you think you need russian to go where you are not correct..)
Saturday night I went with Doctor_Skank to about 4 discos and the last was Magrib, really nice girls but I left it alone at 3:30 am with the hope to meet him again.
I arrive at home after a while cause I had flat near Nevsky and I went to bed but I was not able to fall sleep: I know I had time until 8:45 am when driver pick me to airport, so about 4 hours.
I was lie down in bed and think to the problem I had on the table of the kitchen.
A big problem!
Newspaper "Znakomstva"!!!
I was so sad to thought to come back to my sex prison, as Sexplorer'd say.., that I wanted the last girl, but at 4:00 am sunday morning it can be not easy everywhere but not in Russia!
I try to call about 10 privats asking for someone speaking english but no success; so it seem that or I tried to speak some words of russian, and believe me that after long night in 4 discos it can be not so easy, or bye bye Russia..
I took the vocabolary and with a pen I wrote some words on the piece of paper and I started to call again.
It was first of all funny:some girls just ring off when listen my childhood russian but some of them were really kind and try to speak slowly and aloud; I realized immediately that was more easy than I thought and It was only the problem to find girl...in ass business LOL!
Every call I did was more or less as this: " hello" (privet), "I need girl" ( me nuzna devuskha), "how much one hour" ( skolka adin cas), " is this possible anal" ( eta mozna analni sex), "is this possible to my flat" (eta mozna devuskha muj kvartira).
I decided for one saloon where they asked me which kind of girl I wanted, I told little blond, they asked my phone number and they called me after a while and said in half hour she will arrive.
I used the time to put quickly my clothes in suitcase and went immediately out to ATM, yes I didn't think I need more money when I came back home LOL!
At 5:00 am she called me, I went out in the street and I found not nice suprise there were 2 girls and one big man; he told me 2 girls 4.000 rubles; I answered I ordered only one and he was not ahhpy but agreed when I showed I was ready to take one girl or noone! Than strange thing: He wanted to come upstairs to contol if I was alone in my flat.
Not try to imagine my situation: I was after 10 days of holiday really tired, in 3 hours I had to wake up to go to airport, I was alone with 2 gilrs and one big man, I am 172cm 64kg and I forgot all I learnt in one year of course of boxing-training even if I am able to run very fast LOL!
So I was really in trouble, cause tired but still pretty horny and enough afraid to let him go inside my flat.
What to do? I tried to look at him in his eyes to understand what he really wanted. I understood nothing but my desire to have that cute blond woman near him!
May be I did a stupid thing or a normal thing, still I don't know If I only was lucky but I let him to go inside my flat with the blond, the other girl waited in the car; he searched in all my flat, 10 seconds, I had 3 room flat, and when he found nobody he immediately smiled and I thought, or he will kill me or I will have the most amazing sex experience of my 10 days!
He didn't kill me LOL!
I paid him and I realized immediately she was shy, more afraid than me and little drunk, so I took immediately 2 glass, one for vodka and second for tea, she smiled in so sweet way that I kissed her deeply and so passionate as only a soldier back from ten years of war far from home can kiss his wife!
We drunk vodka for time of cigarette and then we strip quiclky and then went to bed far one from the other.
Nobody was shy, but we behave as we were, It was so strange feeling, we probably need more closer to Love than to sex, cause we wathced the television hand to hand!
Then the male in me wake up and I roll close to her and started to kiss her as I never had sex in Piter, she moved her hand to my hand, the first LOL!, and the second after my ombelicus..finally!
After some minutes of kissing so nice that I doubt if I ordered a prostitute or a girl in need of make love as I was, I went on my knees and showed her my best friend; she immediately refused not covered bj and she made me so sad, ( you have to know that in some situation covered bj for me is a total knock-out as to find your wife in the bed with her sister LOL!), and so sad that I guess I was able without problem to pray her all night long, it means 2 minutes...dawn was so close.., or to cry as a child that wants another toy, and only to have NOT covered bj; but what to say her? I really spontaneously said: " pazalsta, pazalsta, ja zavtra...domoi! And I said with a smile that she smiled too!
She started to be in trouble, I saw from her eyes, I said one more time, I know who cares that I went home but me, but she probably liked me or only she liked the spontaneous joke, ( hey but it was true that I didn't want to end with covered bj.. I am sure you too LOL!), so she started very sweet and so slowly bj, that it was nice as the first of my life I received 9 years ago..but she was italian so much better russian bj..
Then It was doggy style, missionarie where if I remember good I took her left leg with my hand and the right I put directly towards my brow, I saw somewhere and it works very good, remember to try it.., then some minutes, I was so tired, I cum and I fall down to bed thinking that m-a-y b-e it was really the end of my holiday!!
I went to do a shower, she sleeping, I waked up her, I did her one foto, yes to post it here, her best memory I had in my mind, and I asked her to leave, cause time was 6:20, it means fellow gentlemen 2 hours of sleep..wow!!
At 8:50 phone ringing and driver asked where I was, I was happy that I did the suit-case waiting for her!
She was from south of Russian, few hours by train from Moscow, she studied in Piter and she worked to pay her studies, tru or not I gave her 20 euro and 1.000 rubles, all I had.
I think was the best girl, even if not the nicest, I had in 10 days, remind me of tochka experience in Moscow, may be cause was the first girl not from Piter and I decide that next time I will go in Siberia or in some city so far, cause I had the feeling there the attitude is totally different from Moscow and Piter woman, the same feeling I had with the tockha I had.
I slept about 2 hours, but even if I came back with not my favourite Aereoflot, see my first report, I was sad, to come back home, and at the same time so happy for the adventure to order in russian girl to privat in early sunday morning and happy for such Gem attitude girl you can find when you risk a little or when you try to listen your instinct and to follow it.
Good luck sweet Anastasia!
A belated report from SPB. I don’t seem to have either the luxury of time for mongering or report writing but after reading the excellent reports from Lukasek and Doc I am obliged to add my few moments of experience. I arrived into Pulkovo on Thursday pm (2 weeks ago) and went straight into business meetings. By the time I met Lukasek at 10:00pm I had been on the go for 22 hours and was pretty tired. We went to Rossi‘s with one of his US buddies and I was suitably impressed by the crowd and, in particular the chicas. After a beer I could feel my eyes closing so I made my apologies and left for my hotel. Unfortunately Lukasek sowed a seed in my mind as I departed, saying he was sure I would go to an apartment.
Funnily enough, once in the taxi, and with the thought of returning to the depressing St Petersburg hotel, I tried to call an apartment on Vossanya Ulica I used last time. The phone was dead. So using three of the seven words of Russian that I know I asked the driver to take me to an apartment (dyevushki apartamenti da?).
Two minutes later we were walking up several flights of decrepid stairs and into a fairly well appointed apartment. Four girls were wheeled out in front of me, the best a 6 who happened to speak good English, but not good enough to warrant the 2000 rubles/hr asking price.
Unimpressed, I made my apologies and we went on to the next place. This was on Prospekt Kamennoostrovskiy, building #24 (tel: 941 1400) and insideit was a very large and well appointed appartment. I took tea in a large lounge and, after some discussions with the lady boss, five girls paraded in. All were 1.70m+ and the worst was a solid 8. I could not choose between them so took the girl with the warmest smile. Can’t remember the name she was presented as but her real name is Vika, 1.74m, incredibly long legs and the pertest butt I’ve seen in a long time. Prices were 2500 rubles, one hour, 3500 2 hrs. Not the cheapest, but the girls were serious quality and head and shoulders above anything I’ve seen in other apartments or Tribunal or Marstall on previous visits.
Vika was a very good GFE and managed to make the 2 hours feel like more. Excellent CBJ (no hands), passable massage, DATY, DFK and round 2 was fun. She started in cowgirl and, suddenly discovering she could speak English, demanded her orgasm first. Then it was a bit of blur as we went through the whole repertoire of positions. I limped back to the hotel exhausted but happy, took one look at the dogs in the lobby bar and went to bed a very happy man.
Friday was filled with business until quite late. I took a siesta, ate dinner and weighed up my options for the night. Then I did something dumb and returned to the same apartment, selected the same girl and repeated the exploits of the night before. A crazy thing to do when there is so much food on the table but the level of service and intimacy was quite different on this second visit. In fact, one of the other girls said to me while I was waiting that no-one had ever returned so soon for the same girl. Probably complete BS but Vika greeted me like a long lost friend and was even hotter than the night before. Must be something to be said for repeat business.
I returned to the hotel and hit the sack as I had an early check in time for my flight to Moscow the next morning.
Hi there!
About saunas,
When I lived in St. Pete we used to visit the sauna in hotel Chaika. Yes, it is far away from the city center and it is not as good the sauna e.g. in Astoria. But it is much cheaper and girls are allowed. If you do not have girls on your own, the guys working in security will find them for you. Usually they bring to you 4 - 8 girls to choose from.
http://www.chaika.spb.ru/
The room rates in in the english version are old, look at the russian version. The (renovated) rooms are not so bad and breakfast is included. Of course you can bring the girls to also to your room. Quite many expats working in Piter are living in Chaika (Or at least used to live).
Hotel Chaika is not far away from metro Pionerskaya. After sauna you visit Aerodrom, local nightclub, 100 meters from the metro. I have not been there since last winter, but I think they are still open every night. But if you find a girl there, do not go to her place. It may be dangerous.
Accomodation?
somebody around here, can provide me a girlfriendly hotel in St. Pete?
Will stay only 2 Nights so appartment is not useful.
Thanks
Shos
SAS Radisson was girl friendly. Very nice rooms but pricey.
Hi fellows!
Recently called Katya. I know her for almost ten years already and just asked if she is still in the business. She is and she can provide you with girls for 2700 roubles for two hours. Also you can ask accomodation if needed (with or without girls).
The good thing is that Katya speaks fluent english and you can trust her. At least I trust.
For regular kilients skidka, i.e. lower prices.
Almost forgot the number:
+7 812 344 74 55
Hi guys,
I could recommand an escort agency which was very helpful last June, when my wife and I went to SP.
It's called Lizaescorts and they of course get a website with the same name.
Nice girls and average prices. We met Kristi, a 19 y.o. beauty, ready to anything. A dream!
For accomodation, just try on the web Oksanna apartments (6 flats located on Nevskiy prospekt 88) : very new flats from 50 euros per night.
As a night club to pick up girls (for most of them you'll have to pay), I definitely advice The Tribunal : nice atmosphere and music, go go dancers, some escorts. You do not have to pay an entrance fee.
[quote]She was from south of Russian, few hours by train from Moscow, she studied in Piter and she worked to pay her studies, tru or not I gave her 20 euro and 1.000 rubles, all I had.[/quote]
Lukasek!
Dont believe the girls saying that they work to study. Every girl will say you this. It is possible to study 20 girl in university for the money she earn.
Andy S,
Yes, you probably are right, or maybe there are also some few, 5%?, girls that also study at university or they try.
It was early sunday morning close to go to airport, I had great time with her, I can say I liked to believe her and my tip was mainly for her service and because she was the last I had.
However thank you very much for you suggest!
Luca
P.S: you didn't give her a tip?
[quote]P.S: you didn't give her a tip?[/quote]
Some time, but not often. You will understand why if you try to calculate how much prostitutes earn here (in Russia) and compare with åhe income of the highly paid employee.
Hello Guys,
I am maybe the first woman to write in this forum, but I think this gives some edge for this conversation you are having. I am writing my first report from St Pete. I live in Finland but have born in Russia, best places for St Pete are Metro, Kannushnii Dvor, Money Honey and Pietari.
Last time I was there I saw some fucking great looking russki guys. I prefer russki mushina because they are more intensive in bed and more good looking, and also more mascular. Western men are too often so drunk, they don't even know where chicken pisses.
I was in Metro Club 2 weeks ago, got to know one one dark, young boy: we met on the dance floor, after that he was paying my drinks for the whole evening. After that went with his Mercedes Benz to his place, and had DATY, very enjoyable. After that we fucked in many positions and I had multiple orgasms with him. His dick was about 25 cm long and it really made me moan.
This was one of my best experiences I have ever had in St Pete, coming back after two weeks.
Poka, Maria
To Lukasek,
No thank you for your boringly long self-indulgent postings. This is the WSG, world sex guide. It is not the WUG, world underpant guide. Your post “I also wear designer label underwear, whether from Hilfiger, D&G, Boss or whatever. I suggest buying this at outlet stores or through internet discounters. Relatively affordable actually, it does pay off as the quality IS actually better than most generic brands and girls do respond well to being fucked by guys clad in stylish underclothes. Think I'm joking? Try it out yourself. Personality and chemistry go a long way(s) with girls, however hitting the primordal instincts of a women also doesn't hurt. Designer label = money = good provider = bring mammoth meat to cave = mating material”. Are you for real? There’s only one deluded nationality you could ever be from. This is not Penthouse forum, don’t waste our time having to read your drivel. I don’t care want music you play before going out, but if your listening to Korn, your way out of date mate. As for white shoes, who are you trying to impress, Elton John? I have emailed Jackson to cancel your membership & stop wasting our time with your fantasy. As for your story about the three guys in SPB going around killing people with baseball bats, to all readers, please note that was pure fiction. To all readers please note some people writing on the SPB forum are actually business people from the Moscow forum, who don’t want you to go to SPB & want you to go to Moscow & stay in there apartments & go to Nighttain, which is the most awlful overpriced club in Russia. As for Otto’s recommendation for you senior status, I have emailed jackson regards this. Some of us change our user name every so often, like myself. Why do you guys think theres any great acheivement in writing hundreds of posts of pure drivel & then recommending each other for senior status. If your got some infornation to share, please do so, but keep your fantasy in your pants boys.
Sid66,
Funny to read Western men are, in your opinion, too often drunk, I think you mean russian men aren't. I noticed the opposite.
But I was in Russia only 2 times, so surely you know the situation better than me..and better the women I met out there.
I have BMW is it a problem? lol
And about the dick of your friend. I guess if you measured it beforeor after sex? lol
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Sid66,
I don't know what you wrote has to do with the below conversation. However, happy you got laid in a great way, no matter who did it.
But why do you like the clubs you list rate high in your book?
Also, since this is a forum where men post about how and where to get laid by the women of the world, pro or non-pro, what can you tell us to help us accomplish our goals?
And how can we please women more, make you have multiple orgasms? I am always willing to learn more from your perspective...
How'd you find the forum, are you a pro or just one of those so-called normal girls?
Doc,
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I wrote to St Petersburg forum because this is the city where I spend most of my time outside Finland. I have read Russian / Ukrainan / Moldovan forum and this is the outcome of all these combined, and my 5 cents to add. Even though I as a woman see some very desperate / funny sounding reports where you guys really don't know what you are doing.
The best way to approach a Russian woman is to talk with her politely, dress up nice, don't ask for pussy right away. Silent confidence makes good impression, don't brag about your money, wealth, nationality etc. Ordrer her a drink right away, not after half an hour.
For clubs: In Metro 3rd floor is packed with best looking, trendy ashtonishing women, international disco music is played and very many foreign men (for me) are visiting ;-)
Konnushnii Dvor: has been covered before.
Cafe Pietari: Many single women sits alone, not many foreigners. Easy for you men to have a devushka. No competition yet. Maybe after this post much more western men :-)
Money Honey: Weekdays many attractive non-pro students. You can easily connect to a student who is looking for adventure...
For multiple orgasms: every woman is her own person, just like I don't take blowjob for every man the same way. Some like it hard way with teeth, some like it in tender way. The best way to reach me in orgasm has been when man has asked what I like, how to touch me, and create a nice atmosphere for the night. BUT ALSO man has to be creative and have confidence/trust about himself. After that my enjoyment can be 100%. But as said before treat every woman as a person, not just like a sex-machine.
Hope this answered your questions even partly. I understand the goals you are trying to make in this forum but please don't underestimate us, every woman is her own person.
Poka,
Maria
Doc,[quote]And how can we please women more, make you have multiple orgasms? I am always willing to learn more from your perspective...[/quote]There are a few other women posting on WSG. For example, do a search for posts by [b]RN[/b]. She's an ex-sex worker and wrote on this issue many times. Problem is that she's also a "serial" poster and you will have to dig through tons of posts. ;) Just kidding. Her posts are very entertaining and humourous.
[b]Roxanne[/b]'s posts are also informative and fun, for example this [url=http://www.wsgforum.com/vforum/showthread.php?s=&postid=247585#post247585][b]one[/b][/url] for her view "from a female perspective". :)
Sid66,
Welcome onboard!!!! :D I'm also curious to read about your views on this.
Sid 66
I'll bet a 10" dick made you moan! Most women would have screamed...in pain, that, or you got a **** like a cavern.
Dear John Q,
The size is not really important, technique is most important. Still, you can not light fire to a woman with a toothpick ;-)
Poka,
Maria
This is an update of my email from last winter of all the brothels in SPG from OMEN.ru with more than 4 girls. It seems that my favorite place across the street from Magrib is out of business. Each of these places will let you visit (incall) or you can order in (outcall). The first number is their phone in the (812) area code. Second is the name of the girls listed because you usually need to ask for a girl by name when you call to get the address and to be let in the front door. Finally, is the price per hour. I have not tried any of these places and good luck to anyone who tries:
981-1112 Ksusha, Olesya, Sveta Lera,Alexandra $45
970-4570 Angelika, Renata, Olga, Leana, Kseneya,Snejanna $50
115-9648 Albina, Sveta, Margo Angela $50
974-9809 Janet,Nathalie,viktoria, Olenka, Lisa $70
974-6120 Natasha, alena, Leram Dina, Ksasha $50
113-2337 Viktoria, Neka, Varya, kyra $65
974-5463 Irene, Anna, Julia, Sabina, alexandra, Lisa $60
907-5335 Kristina, Karin, Olya, Lisa, alisa, alenka,Marina,Olya$60
970-1813 Karina, Ellen, Kyra, alexandra, stella $50
974-4438 Azeza, Viktoria, Mariana,Arena, Nastenka,Anishka $50
115-9369 Nika, Lyla, elya, Margo, Olya $65
387-2006 Olga, Katusha, Evgenya, Lera, Nadejda $50
116-5268 Elena, Anya, Oksana, Olesya $65
970-3342 Nashtenka, Alla, Tatyana, Margarita, anusta $50
974-7060 Lena, marina, Masha, Sveta, Ira, Viktoria, Katya $40
I hope the land of Vodka and pretty blonds is unchanged but my next venture into mother Russia in january will be into the hinterlands of Yaroslavel, Vologograd and big Novgorod. Hopefully, I will be able to give you all updates.
Maria/Sid66:
Thanks for your club info and answering, hope to try them out soon. If I can shovel my schedule free. St.Pete is kind of a new playground for me, although I am admittedly trying to avoid the complications of multiple relationships that have begun to plague my Moscow existence. There really is a lot to be said for the joy of the hunt, it is a central motivating factor for many men, particularly those who are not looking for or not prepared (and even those not able) to have a serious relationship or, totally out of place on this forum, a monogamous one.
As for women, obviously an indvidual vibe must develop, every women is different, despite certain characteristics that seem to apply to most, such as confidence in men, men knowing what they want etc.
Every woman a person.. of course, and when dealing with pros (and that is the central focus of this forum) treating them as women will often yield great rewards i.e. real passion... sometimes you are just a part of a business deal however and when that happens, you must just roll with it and get as much out of it as possible. At least we guys must... we certainly pay enough for the privelage.
Simon:
I wrote that stuff you complain about, not Lukasek.
If you don't like what I write, don't read it.
As for the baseball bat story, it's true.
There is plenty of info in my reports.
Lukasek deserves senior member status, his reports speak for themselves.
Your reports also speak for themselves... no further comment.
Your conspiracy theories are really bullshit. I, like many others, am a businessman, but I couldn't care less if you go to Moscow, St.Pete or Kiev. If you were able to get past your infuriation over my self-indulgent underwear comments (I do apologize for that), you'll notice that I reported very positively about St.Pete.
Didn't comprehend the sarcasm of the white shoes ridiculousness? Sorry about that mate. I'll write more simply for you in the future. Or maybe not.
Korn: yeah it is old music. Sorry I mentioned it. It fit the story.
Insulting nationalities? That's a welcome theme in WSG. More sarcasm if you are taking notes.
Self-indulgence: I will continue to be self-indulgent and have as much sex, paid and unpaid for, that I possibly can. Hedonism is not uncommon among WSG members.
Lighten up. Sex is fun. So is this forum. I have gotten a lot out of it, it certainly has improved my experiences in the countries I travel to. I try to give some back with info and pictures. If you don't like my posts, then just don't read them. Very simple concept.
And if you are going to complain about somebody, get the right guy.
Simon,
Unlike you, I have NOT emailed Jackson to complain about your silly-ass posts.
Personally, I hope the flatheads with baseball bats teach you a thing or two about manners.
Uncle Otto
PS - Anybody planning on being in St. Pete during Russkie Christmas in January? I might be over there during this time, perhaps some Merry Christmas hunting would be in order?
[quote]PS - Anybody planning on being in St. Pete during Russkie Christmas in January? I might be over there during this time, perhaps some Merry Christmas hunting would be in order?[/quote]
I live here and I think that I should be there....
To Simon,
It is funny to read you took some parts of my report and from report of Doctor_Skank and put them all together under my name.
May be you didn't take enough time to read well or just not able to do it, nevermind. I don't care to answer to you, as you did with me, cause you are one in a milion, a member but surely not a friend of mine and thank for e mailed Jackson, but he does his work so good without suggest as the mail you wrote him and if I will not upgrade this time, I will try next time with my next report.
As Doc correctly said I one more time suggest you to avoid to read post from members you don't like, but may be is not so simple concept.
We are all looking forward your "next" detailed post about an international city or international travel.
[quote][b]Sid66[/b], The best way to approach a Russian woman is to talk with her politely, dress up nice, don't ask for pussy right away. Silent confidence makes good impression, don't brag about your money, wealth, nationality etc. Ordrer her a drink right away, not after half an hour. [/quote]Your tips on how to best lay a Ruskaya also hold true for Swiss, American, British, Japanese and every single nationality held by women globally. You’re not contributing any insider or special information here. I’d say you’re spreading misinformation.
Should I want to use your scoring criteria, I’d stay in Lake Charles. Moreover, your recommendations conceal a rather sinister and seditious agenda. One may note you’re covertly seeking to advance the interests of your specie on the cheap.
You demand of the western male to harness and adhere to numerous elitist qualities, amongst which “not asking for pussy right away”. Well, American males in particular are terrified of asking “for pussy right away” at home, now you cunningly advise them to refrain from asking in sexually liberated Russia? No, you’re not merely demonstrating how we can best get laid.
You wanna dispossess the westerner of all his assets and advantages while on the prowl in the CIS. You recommend that he suppresses the urge to burnish his distinguished nationality in a country where Ruskayas still have a soft spot for western men. You further suggest that he tone down his wealthy attribute and fork up drinks before he assesses his scoring odds. And you’ve no ulterior agenda?
El Suave knows that asking for pussy right away in Russia is the only way. When you’ve got the mass of females available in that country, what other way is there? Your way? Spare us. El Sauve’s method is slipping his unsuspecting, new female acquaintance wood up the mini skirt and through da popa. And all this whilst she sits on the barstool sipping Campari. Her reaction? ‘Yeshio wood pajalussta senior zapadni’.
El Suave knows the filthier the lingo in Rossia, the louder the moans are, the more possossi moi gramaden akvedukt e vozmi v rta, the more responsiveness you’re awarded. If El Suave wants to collect phone numbers, he’ll acquire a phone book. If it ain’t a one night stand in the CIS, it most certainly is a shit stand; simply dermo, poniola dievushka?
“Silent confidence”? Silent defecane. El Suave talks and talks, and talks, he wares down his female pray until she says to him, ‘if I fuck you, will you shut da fuck up?’ Of course the dude’s answer is affirmative.
Your Benz dude asked for pussy right away and he got it. Oh I get it, Rusko-Finns are much more promiscuous, lascivious floozies than plain Ruskayas eh? Maybe a look-see at the Finn board is warranted.
Ultimately, the kinda poka you’re preachin don’t jive, not in Russia milaya koshka.
El Suave wrote:
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Your tips on how to best lay a Ruskaya also hold true for Swiss, American, British, Japanese and every single nationality held by women globally. You’re not contributing any insider or special information here. I’d say you’re spreading misinformation.
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“Silent confidence”? Silent defecane. El Suave talks and talks, and talks, he wares down his female pray until she says to him, ‘if I fuck you, will you shut da fuck up?’ Of course the dude’s answer is affirmative.
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I don’t think Russian women are that different from all other women on Earth, that they wouldn’t want men behave like gentlemen. Maybe I should have been more clear and indicate that I was writing about non-pro women. I can see El Suave’s point though, and read his comments with smile in my face.
Still, if a (pro)girl is expecting to have 100-200 € from the man later in the evening, I think she is willing to hear any bs all night long and laugh her lungs out. It is also called acting ;-)
Correct me if I’m wrong but I thought the idea in this forum is also to give comments about “normal girls”. Still I have to add that sometimes the line between normal and pro girl is vague especially in Russia, when the question of economical survival is top priority in one’s mind :-(
Poka, Maria
Interesting posts, Sid66 and ElSuave. I look forward to further contributions from you both. Your posts, as newbies, are head-and-shoulders above that moron I whacked a few posts back. I don't agree with everything you two write, but welcome nonetheless.
Uncle Otto
sid,
you think the concept of non pros and wholesome, regular ruskayas is underrepresented, foreign and alien to this board? you’d like to think that before you came along russian enthusiasts' sole interest was pros and only pros eh?
i submit to you, and it goes without saying that “bs” is never necessary with a pro. why would any rational, non tard, non neurotic punter expend valuable energy wooing a prostitute through speech? i’m presuming you do know that money would suffice when hiring a pro, provilno?
however, “bs”, sexual overtures and erotic speech in the hands of the skilled are super natural with regular ruskayas in your rodina. perhaps i should make myself a bit clearer by saying fuck gentleman like conduct when engaging regular ruskayas_ bestiality is the superior approach. moreover, i put emphasis on “regular ruskayas”, lest you again think el suave is speaking about pros.
and yes, “russian women are that different from other women on earth”, if by nothing else, simply by their sheer numbers, the western male’s biggest challenge is avoiding getting laid while in the cis.
a very nice young ruskaya once told me that russian men are so lucky and spoiled. although she didn’t elaborate, i knew exactly what she meant. she understood that if the russian male traveled outside russia along with his attitude and meager means, he’d score less than 10% of the pussy he did in the homeland. so when the western male approaches the ruskaya without the bellicose attitude, but with a huge boner, fat wallet and astute erotic speech, he’s more than welcome.
in the final analysis, let’s make a sharp distinction between what regular ruskayas “want”, endeavor to attain, and what they’ll settle for with no grudges. whereas most western women find touching and french kissing them 5 minutes after you meet them odious, ruskayas welcome it. whereas western women find saying fuck, fuck, fuck, suck, yebatsa, anal, penis, penis, penis, sex , sex, idiom k menia offensive, regular ruskayas are receptive and will want some.
uncle otto, i'm a big admirer of your valuable posts. your encourgement means a lot. thank you.
It’s fair for [b] Sid66[/b] to wonder why some are objecting to her assessment of western men and Russian women’s needs and sexuality. For the sake of brevity, one word describes her outlook, misguided.
Western men wonder when they hear statements like the following:
[quote] I prefer russki mushina because they are more intensive in bed and more good looking, and also more mascular. Western men are too often so drunk, they don't even know where chicken pisses. [/quote]
For someone who comes from a country who’s the champion of the world in alcoholism, you’ve some nerve calling western men drunks. Especially when your most famous General, General Kalashnikov is marketing Kalashnikov Vodka all over Europe by knocking them down while doing interviews.
You’ve 2 consecutive Russian presidents who are alcoholics par excellence. Yeltson considered public drunkenness a national sport. While Putin, now this guy is a piece of work. Nothing is public with this character, everything is backstage and surreptitious a la old shcola.
Take the hostage crisis, you’re telling this board that a sober chief would handle the Moskva theater and Beslan impasse like Putin did? So here’s the Putin hostage doctrine: knock down 2 liters of Kalashnikov Vodka, then kill all the hostages and only half the hostage takers, and if the hostages’ relatives complain, gas them too. After killing everybody, appoint your own governors and theater curators.
Then [b]Sid[/b] says
[quote] I was in Metro Club 2 weeks ago, got to know one dark, young boy [/quote]Well, the western male is a light man of intellect, substance, entrepreneurial savvy and wealth, he owns everything of note in the world, and is sober even when he’s drunk.
I’ll hand it to you though, the Russian man is a boy of muscle, halitosis and steroidal agents. However, Russian men better looking? In a pig’s eye. Have you seen the Slavic bulging cheekbones on Russian males, they all look like they’ve undergone massive blows while being interrogated and tortured by a drunken Putin.
Hey, I’m always sober, and I never know where a “chicken pisses.”
[quote]Originally posted by Across69
Updated Brothel List
This is an update of my email from last winter of all the brothels in SPG from OMEN.ru with more than 4 girls. It seems that my favorite place across the street from Magrib is out of business. Each of these places will let you visit (incall) or you can order in (outcall). The first number is their phone in the (812) area code. Second is the name of the girls listed because you usually need to ask for a girl by name when you call to get the address and to be let in the front door. Finally, is the price per hour. I have not tried any of these places and good luck to anyone who tries:
981-1112 Ksusha, Olesya, Sveta Lera,Alexandra $45
970-4570 Angelika, Renata, Olga, Leana, Kseneya,Snejanna $50
115-9648 Albina, Sveta, Margo Angela $50
974-9809 Janet,Nathalie,viktoria, Olenka, Lisa $70
974-6120 Natasha, alena, Leram Dina, Ksasha $50
113-2337 Viktoria, Neka, Varya, kyra $65
974-5463 Irene, Anna, Julia, Sabina, alexandra, Lisa $60
907-5335 Kristina, Karin, Olya, Lisa, alisa, alenka,Marina,Olya$60
970-1813 Karina, Ellen, Kyra, alexandra, stella $50
974-4438 Azeza, Viktoria, Mariana,Arena, Nastenka,Anishka $50
115-9369 Nika, Lyla, elya, Margo, Olya $65
387-2006 Olga, Katusha, Evgenya, Lera, Nadejda $50
116-5268 Elena, Anya, Oksana, Olesya $65
970-3342 Nashtenka, Alla, Tatyana, Margarita, anusta $50
974-7060 Lena, marina, Masha, Sveta, Ira, Viktoria, Katya $40
I hope the land of Vodka and pretty blonds is unchanged but my next venture into mother Russia in january will be into the hinterlands of Yaroslavel, Vologograd and big Novgorod. Hopefully, I will be able to give you all updates.
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A69, great, fabulous post, worth repeating! The next Baltika is on your favorite uncle!
Uncle Otto
el suave: wow!!! i must have hit some nerves. lol !!!
i was wishing to have some intellectual conversation over here, but it looks like i am against immaturity from a westerner, who has probably visited russia couple of times and can’t see the forest for the trees. still i'm having a hilarious time reading his posts, so nothing personal against you :-)
el suave wrote:
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for someone who comes from a country who’s the champion of the world in alcoholism, you’ve some nerve calling western men drunks. especially when your most famous general, general kalashnikov is marketing kalashnikov vodka all over europe by knocking them down while doing interviews.
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i have only written what i have seen in restaurants where have been both russian and western men.
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so when the western male approaches the ruskaya without the bellicose attitude, but with a huge boner, fat wallet and astute erotic speech, he’s more than welcome.
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you should have emphasized the words “fat wallet” :-)
has it ever happened to you guys that you take “normal freebie” or “regular ruskaya” as suave described them to your apartment from nightclub and next day you find yourselves buing clothes, jewellery etc. for her? what is then the difference between pro and non-pro? you don’t talk bs to a pro and don’t buy her drinks in the club? where is the logic guys?
poka, maria
Dear OttoGraham,
Don't forget to buy newspaper "znakomstva", you find everywhere in shop, I just now have in my hand the number of september and there are 98 pages FULL of foto telephone numbers of pro but most of all you see their foto near number so you can order what you see. I don't know if are all real foto, but I think most of them are.
All the girl I took have the same price if you have sex in their flat or if you decide to take her to your room, when I understood the price is the same I always took her to my room and seems the time of travel is not count. In "znakomstva" you can find also address and foto vip sauna.
There are for sure at least other 2 newspapers, one is "amuda" or they call in this way and is the newspaper of amurspb.ru, the other I don't know the name.
I discovered and bought "znakomstva" the last day, unluckily, but I took it at home and all friends of mine I showed it, they really were without words and strongly surprised about the beauty in this magazine. They stopped to look to the foto of Piter's enviroments I did LOL!
Happy hunting!
[quote][b]Sid66[/b], Has it ever happened to you guys that you take “normal freebie” or “regular Ruskaya” as Suave described them to your apartment from nightclub and next day you find yourselves buing clothes, jewellery etc. for her? What is then the difference between pro and non-pro? You don’t talk bs to a pro and don’t buy her drinks in the club? Where is the logic guys?[/quote]The answer to your first question is no. No, I never ever find myself buying clothes and jewelry for the regular Russian girl I fucked last night after nightclubbing. In fact, I never ever choose to see this girl again. And I’ll tell you why, because I already had her in every position printed on a deck of dirty playing cards. Everything she had to offer, I already had. To see her again is counter productive and yields diminished returns.
So contrary to your erroneous perception, I can see and understand the “forest.” Moreover, I understand that Russia is a forest encompassing endless quantities of regular, young, willing and receptive girls just there for the asking. So when El Suave heads to Russia, he’s there to fuck till he turns blue, he never has any interest in seeing the same girl twice. Why? Because it’s a forest with abundance like you said. I buy the Jewelry, clothes and toys for my wife and children. The romance? I leave that for my mistress back home. While in Russia the mission statement is fucking a new girl every other day because it’s doable.
And let me tell you the difference between a pro and non pro because you did ask. Take a Marstall hardcore pro who propositioned and slept with 23,000 swingers, you might call her the number one health hazard in Russia. A non pro might be your young sister, a college student or office worker, she might like nightclubbing and doesn’t mind sleeping with the occasional westerner every now and then. This non pro probably has under her belt merely 16 various punters. Do you see the difference from a health hazard point of view?
The logic. No, I don’t “talk bs to a pro and don’t buy her drinks in the club”, I pay her to fuck. The non pro I bs, flirt with, cajole, buy her drinks after chemistry develops, host her at my apartment, fuck her, and never see her again. It doesn’t get more logical than that.
Finally, I do put emphasis on a fat wallet, it gets me to Russia, it furnishes me with a nice apartment, it buys me the finest whisky and hires me a chauffeured car. The non pro hooking up and fucking I do with my agile tongue and cock.
Remember, it’s never immature to defend one’s own kind.
El Suave, it looks like St Pete forum has developed into our mutual discussion/arguing during last few days.
What can you tell about your past visits to Russia? Which cities have you visited, how many times you have been here etc. How about St Petersburg? Where do you spend your time here? Do you rent an apartment? Where?
I see some similarities in your writing to Kremlin King who wrote in Moscow forum few months ago and then disappeared. I think your writing is very arrogant and not so nice. I have a feeling you have been posting under different names earlier. If not, it really flatters me to have this much conversation to my humble post.
Maybe some senior members can help me out? I don’t really see the nuances in somebody’s writing that easily, since my knowledge of english is not that perfect. Doc, what do you think about this? CA Traveller, Otto Graham, Lukasek: Please give your comments.
El Suave wrote:
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The non pro I bs, flirt with, cajole, buy her drinks after chemistry develops, host her at my apartment, fuck her, and never see her again. It doesn’t get more logical than that.
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My words to El Suave are: I feel sorry for the girls you have met. Of course if it is mutual understanding and girl leaves your apartment with a smile in her face, I understand. However I have a feeling that the girls leave with tears on their cheek and tell themselves that they never go to bed with a western man ever again. If this is the case, this is harmful for all the men trying to get laid in Russia. My point is, that you should give good feeling to a girl; that she feels herself special, maybe even have breakfast together. Then it is more acceptable, and I have myself done it several times.
Poka, Maria
El Suave wrote:
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And let me tell you the difference between a pro and non pro because you did ask. Take a Marstall hardcore pro who propositioned and slept with 23,000 swingers, you might call her the number one health hazard in Russia. A non pro might be your young sister, a college student or office worker, she might like nightclubbing and doesn’t mind sleeping with the occasional westerner every now and then. This non pro probably has under her belt merely 16 various punters. Do you see the difference from a health hazard point of view?
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So, why do you take pros, if your "charm" makes regular girls wet their pants? Because people can see your balls hanging from the legs of your pants? :-)
Poka, Maria
Hey GUYS!
Can't we all just accept that ALL WOMEN are *****S--Russian, Spanish, German, Australian, etc etc and learn to live with that. Let's face it, WE will try to get a woman in bed by any means necessary: Looks, Money, Charisma, Power, Sports Car, Bulging Muscles, sweet talkk, etc etc etc. These are all weapons in our arsenal.
But I do think that certain nations have women who tend to lean more towards the top in the International ***** Scale. Right after Thialand I think you would find Russian Women. But, that's just economics.
And all this chit chat about Western Man being this or that. When I was vacationing in Turkey I saw some really nasty local men bang the hell out of SuperModel like EE girls. And not even for more money.
I don't think Western Guys get Russian chicks because of wealth alone, I think they are just different. People like difference.
Adios
So anyway, here's a report.
I'm not normally a bar-hopper, and that might have gotten in my way for my weekend in St.P.
On the first night, I went to Magrib at around 11:30 PM. My eyes almost fell out of their sockets - there were so many hot women there. But what I found really strange was that I couldn't really establish eye contact .. perhaps too old for that crowd (34)? I got one or two girls to smile back, but for the most part, blank stares. My experience in other bars of this ilk (mainly SE Asia, admittedly) is that you would get a response from the pros. I tried to talk to a few girls, but found none who spoke English. I tried to dance with a few girls, but again, not much eye contact and what I perceived as a cold shoulder. And I thought I dressed appropriately, but who knows.
Still, I stayed for a total of about four hours, because I was enjoying watching the scene. Truly some amazingly hot women, and great dancers.
I went back to the hotel at that point, and was trying to decide what to do for some stress relief. I knew I could go back out and find a strip club, but i was getting a bit tired.
On the recommendation of Frenchy Couple posted here (seems like a long time ago given the discussion this week) I called Liza Escorts. Their number was in one of the in-room magazines, and they have a website at liza-escort.spb.ru. They wanted $140 for an hour, based on the late hour. I foolishly agreed.
The girl Nelya arrived 40 minutes later. For a minute or two, things looked promising. But then she devolved into classic, worldwide, hooker mode. Oh, and she was on the rag, too!!!! It was like a bad nightmare. I finished the deed and sent her out, quickly.
The next night, after a full day of walking around seeing nothing but hotties on the street, I thought I would try Marstall instead. This seemed a bit more my scene...more variety age-wise, and a few of the bartenders spoke English. But I didn't chat them up, which I should have, since once again, I couldn't seem to get any conversation going with any of the girls. On a couple of occasions, it was clear to me when a girl was available, but for the most part, not. I enjoyed the people-watching, though, and the topless dancers that occasionally appeared. They also did a fun audience participation thing on the stage, though of course I didn't understand any of it.
I've travelled the world and never let my lack of local language skills get in the way before...not sure what was different this trip. I'm not sure it really was a problem, or if it was just me tired out quickly of trying. Still, for a man with patience, and some Russian skills, seems like St.P is a real goldmine.
[quote] Originally posted by Sid66
I see some similarities in your writing to Kremlin King who wrote in Moscow forum few months ago and then disappeared. I think your writing is very arrogant and not so nice. [/quote]
I was just about to say the same thing. Of course, there is not only one arrogant westerner having fun with Ruskayas. I've been accused of being arrogant, but it's really not true. You peasants are just too ignorant to understand. ;)
[quote] Originally posted by Sid66
I have a feeling you have been posting under different names earlier. [/quote]
Really? Just El Suave? Kremlin King blazed across the WSG sky like a meteor last February, before burning up in the atmosphere. Maria, you've been posting here since October 1 - how could you remember a guy who made a couple of posts over half a year ago? Maybe El Suave isn't the only one with multiple handles......... ;)
Uncle Otto
Unlike the general belief, the EE girls, whether regular, semi-pro or pro, are not any different from the western girls except for their beauty, self-determination and intelligence.
I'm quite surprised by the western guys still getting in the same trap of the old trick '' oh, how I loved you from first sight'' or '' oh,baby, I'm so impressed by your personality, good manners and behaviour ''
It's all part of the game...
The important question is : Are you aware of the game and who's the real winner???
s66... Acutally, I first had the observation in a post several weeks ago that Simon and KK are the same person because they were/are both very hostile and slammed everything and everyone, but the only real piece of information that both managed to provide were very detailed directions, address, phone, descriptions and pricing for the same (very rarely mentioned) club in Moscow.
Personally I don't see that in ElS, but haven't really studied his posts and who knows... only Jackson could tell us for sure.
Uncle O... IMHO, multiple handles are for the weak and cowardly among us... they know who they are!
Simon accused me of making almost all of the posts on the Moscow board... LOL, I'd have had to stay up all day and night for the past few years to have accomplished that feat.
As I recall, Uncle O actually met KK... Am I remembering this correctly?
I believe gents like Vegemars, CA Traveler and Uncle Otto systematically illustrate their vast understanding of the Russian scene and what this board embodies and represents. As a newbie, I have a lot to learn from these gentlemen. Amongst other distinguished members, they are pillars from whom the Russian-bound westerner can amass tremendous knowledge.
I further believe that Poka Maria, otherwise known as Sid66 is a fictitious female. Prudence would dictate to treat this Poka character at best as a scorned ladyboy, and in the least a morphidite. In both cases, Sid falls in the realm of the irretrievably unattractive.
The description of this entity’s sexual escapade with Mr. Benz is a product of whimsical delusion. It’s unlikely Poka lightly brushed against a male since perestroika. Doubtless, Maria’s recollection of receiving DATY goes back to a dream contemporaneous with Poka’s male poodle licking her post surgical crotch. To help one conjure up this image, one can refer back to Vince Vaughn’s dream while sleeping on his couch in the movie Dodgeball.
Attractive, wholesome non pros do not find the need, nor have the desire to immerse themselves in the mongering business of adult men. They’re usually out working their charm and reaping tangible benefits from their beauty.
If Maria wants to dispel the mounting suspicions, if she wants to disprove she’s an eastern, disgruntled NGO informant out to belittle, discredit, deter and demoralize the western monger, she can simply post a picture of her tits and muff. To lend this photo credibility, maybe a Pravda paper next to said muff with a recent and legible date will do.
I’m willing to bet that if this photo ever materializes, the muff in it will appear in a Hitler coiffe.
Nope, never met him. Wouldn't have minded to, however.
Uncle Otto
CAT - maybe it was just my impression, but got the clear idea KK and Simon were 2 very different guys. I dont think Simon knew much about Moscow. KK on the other hand was a pro.
Simon (the cheap Melbournian) was a different nationality too, and not someone worth wasting 2 minutes on, while as offensive as KK might have been, you cant help thinking a night out with him would be a night to remember. Of all the things you might say about KK, he definately wasnt cheap.
[quote][b]Sid666[/b],What can you tell about your past visits to Russia? Which cities have you visited, how many times you have been here etc. How about St Petersburg? Where do you spend your time here? Do you rent an apartment? Where?[/quote]Wouldn’t you like to know. Before I tell you however, let me say I’m on to you. Your questions are reminiscent of veiled inquires designed by subversive, disruptive and probative NGOs to compile data, statistics and profiles on western sex travelers.
Nevertheless, and lest I be labeled arrogant, evasive and dismissive of the mediocre and bovine, I’ll divulge.
I travel to Russia four to five times a year, I divide my sojourns equally between Moscow and Pete. I never consider other cities for lack of comforts, conducive nightlife and sophistication of services.
Since we’re on Pete’s board, we’ll cover Pete: I invariably rent a penthouse in a plush, quaint and subdued residential neighborhood west of Isaakievskaya ploshchad, namely along Bolshaya Morskaya and environs. I won’t furnish you with the exact address cuz you’re a scary, Stalinist ladyboy.
“Where do you spend your time?” From now on, wherever you won’t be present, the idea of inadvertently running into you pretty much kills the entire trip. And although I've patronised Metro Club on Ligovskiy Pr. 174, I’m apprehensive about frequenting it on my next trip cuz you’re a patron.
Don’t you fret Poka, just cuz you’re Russian you don’t have a monopoly on Rossia’s gorodi, nor are you the only one in the know. In time and gradually, you’ll be weighed, measured, flattened and dismantled in your own back yard. Paka suchara.
TokyoviaAA, nice first-time report! Sorry you didn't have more fun. :(
Uncle Otto
Thanks Otto. Next time perhaps I'll out myself enough to see if any other readers will be in town at the same time as me. Maybe the fact that I was alone in these clubs was another mark against me. Who knows.
In the meantime, next trip to Europe is an FKK tour in Germany ending in Amsterdam. I think I'll be OK :)
Otto Graham wrote:
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Maria, you've been posting here since October 1 - how could you remember a guy who made a couple of posts over half a year ago?
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Uncle Otto,
I was a viewing member until last spring, when there was some hassle about non-regular members not allowed to see Photo Gallery. That’s when I upgraded to regular member. Of course Jackson might be only one to confirm this. And I don’t have a dozen identities in my back pocket :-)
Anyway, I think that constant “username” change eats up the credibility of this forum, which is a shame, because there are many highly valued members, including yourself, whose contribution has helped several guys to achieve their goals.
Poka, Maria
Snezhanna
I don't post very often but on this occasion I feel compelled to share my StP experiences. I intend to post details of all my activities but my introductory account is my private apartment experience in St. Petersburg.
Prior to my StP trip I conducted a great deal of research reading WSG posts, sending emails and checking Omem.ru profiles. I believe it was time well spent. The objective of my R&R trip was to cover the complete spectrum of mongering activities including finding frees - pros in bars/discos to the sauna & private apartment scene. I was particularly interested in the private scene as a fall back/daytime option. In fact I was diligent enough to compile a dossier of the girls containing their pertinent details which I used as my guide notes in StP.
My No. 1 Draft Pick. From my research on Omem.ru I identified Snezhanna as my highest ranked girl. Incidentally I have to thank Across69 for highlighting Omem.ru.
Anyway around 14:30 I called +7 812 970 4570 (within StP just dial the last 7 numbers) which I later discovered was a city based mobile/GSM/cell phone number and spoke to a woman. I asked if she spoke English and to my relief she was willing and could albeit in a broken manner. I said I wanted to see Snezhanna whom she confirmed was available. I asked if she could come to my hotel, she suggested it was better for me to visit her. The price was RUR 1,500 / 1hr, RUR 2,500 / 2hrs. She mentioned the apartment was near Moskovskie Vorota. Now, if you have been to StP I'm sure you can relate to my trepidation about going to an apartment. My concern is not the security but the fact these suckers are nearly impossible to find! Sometimes there are no markings plus multiple occupancies sharing the same street number. However as I later appreciated I'm glad I went to the apartment. Just to be double sure I went to cashier desk in my hotel and asked the girl if she would speak to the woman to confirm the location. I rang and they spoke, the cashier bird was very helpful and confirmed it was Moskovskie Vorota which is just as well because I thought it was different place.
StP Metro
The StP Metro system is excellent. Moskovskie Vorota is 4 stops south on the Blue or No. 2 line from Gostiny Dvor. The metro trip from Gostiny Dvor takes about 15 mins. Exit Moskovskie station you will be confronted by a monument or arch, a kind of mini, Soviet style Arc Triomphe. Cross the busy boulevard quickly and walk in a rightish direction and look for number 138. The woman suggested I call when I arrived at 138. I will post a photographic itinerary in the photos section but I lost the street numbers after 136. Anyway I rang and she said someone was coming down to meet me, after about 5 mins a tall girl popped out of door appearing to look for somebody, clearly she was after me so I approached her and she lead me to their apartment. In fact I discovered later it was Leana/Liana.
Apartment
I was expecting a brothel or commercial establishment. The apartments appear to be regular homes for girls who converge in the cities to study and earn money on the side. People may reach their own sexual conclusions but I was excited to screw a girl in her own room but paradoxically felt privileged to be invited to her home and be welcomed as a guest.
I recall the woman asking when I expected to arrive at the apartment. I said I would be there in an 1 hr. I took longer due to money exchange hassles but when I entered the apartment I saw the relevance of the question. She was wearing a black skimpy evening dress, make up, lipstick etc. and was indeed very visually appealing. The pictures and details on Omem are absolutely spot on. I can't describe her anymore accurately than the stats below. She led me to her room, asked for the time which I said 2hrs, I handed over the RUR 2,500, she proceeded to dispense with her clothes and asked me to take a shower. When I came back she was only wearing a towel. Like most Ruskis' she got promptly down to business with a CBJ, I asked but no BBBJ. Incidentally as with most Ruski service providers no AR, no CIM and no DFK but lots of tit rubbing and massage. Anyway I must have been her first customer because she put in a very vigorous CBJ. In fact she was so good I almost shot my load so asked her to hop on and do cowgirl. This lasted awhile before I switched to doggie and then rolled her over and finished her off. During the half-time break we engaged in an interesting conversation discussing her life in Russia. Apparently she studies English and wants to work in translation services. The apartment phone number is in fact her mobile number and I was actually speaking to her, she is perhaps the delegated apt manager due to her language skills. She has been involved in the work for a 3 months and may only continue for a few months so get in quick if you want to see her. The 2nd half was more of the same but much longer and more sensual. I tipped her RUR 200 and left a happy man.
Conclusion
It was definitely the highlight of the trip. She is a very attractive, genuine girl with a youthful air of innocence. IMHO a breath of fresh air in the foggy depression of polluted, cold, wet StP.
970-4570 Angelika, Renata, Olga, Leana, Kseneya,Snejanna $50
City Saint Petersburg
Name Snezhanna
Floor Woman
Purpose of the acquaintance Leisure
Age 20
Weight 47
Increase 161
Volume of grudi/talii/beder 85/58/86
Size of the breast 2
On itself
Hour 50
Two hours 80
Are somewhat hour 270
Pager 9704570 for the subscriber
City Saint Petersburg
Name Liana
Floor Woman
Purpose of the acquaintance Leisure
Age 18
Weight 54
Increase 175
Volume of grudi/talii/beder 87/64/87
Size of the breast 3
On itself Arrive and you will be able to feel tenderness and kindness of young body! I will be very glad to acquaintance with the family pair! The sensations, obtained with me will be brightest in your life!
Hour 50
Two hours 80
Are somewhat hour 250
Tokyo via AA,
I was Magrib on the Sat 9 Oct and I totally agree with your assessment. That place is an eye candy factory! Models of all shapes & sizes parading around and shaking their stuff plus eye contact flying in all directions.
I will post my Magrib observations and experiences soon.
During a recent excursion to St.Pete, I tried my luck at a salon. My luck failed me.
It wasn't like I wasn't well prepared, and I know lots of guys have done very well there, but I ended up at a grade C place.
Interested in finding any random salon or apartment, I bought a glossy contact magazine called "Zhurnal Znakomstva: Randevu". You can find it at many kiosks, and there are actually many mags just like it. Just ask for a "Journal Znakomstva" and you'll get it or a similar mag.
In it are literally hundreds of numbers. I picked a full size add, equating this somehow with quality, which would turn out to be wrong. I was reading the mag in a small cafe just off of Nevsky, the mildly cute waitress flirting with me until she saw me reading the journal... was a comical situation.
In any case, to make a long story short, the place is at 128 Nevsky, apartment 10. Through the arch next to the photo shop and immediately to your left in the courtyard. Pretty grim courtyard.
Humsup reported on it too, although he seemed to do better than I did.... especially with his very cute Snezhanna girl from the other apartment.
I ended up with a 22 year old Ukrainian. Body and face OK, but she just looked like she'd been through the wringer one too many times.
Price was 1400 rubles if I remember correctly for an hour of sex, of which I'd only want 15. Dingy facilities, average girl, only drinks were tea.
N fault of her own really, but she somehow turned me off, I just wasn't into it. I didn't ask to kiss her. Was happy she only gave me a CBJ and after hurrying to finish, I told her I was done after 15 minutes. Some basic conversation confirmed that she had been in St.Pete for 2 years already... a long time in the business.
I didn't want a round two. Somehow the atmosphere just isn't for me, I'll try to find a more luxury place next time. I told her she could get dressed and I sat on the couch outside waiting for my friend for a while. Maybe I was just too tired, or maybe it was the cold rain... but this just wasn't a St.Pete highlight for me. The sex was standard decent basic stuff.... like at an Amsterdam redlight window or a budget German FKK.
Here is a view of the facilities.
I may finally get to take my long deferred visit to St. Pete. The closest I have come before was the fabulous Micado Club in Helsinki.
Question for the veterans. I may be able to squeeze some time in to visit Moscow as well. The Omen web site has a lot of listings and they appear to be of real women judging by quality of photos and variety. The www.prostitutki.ru, Moscow, on the other hand has an outrageous collection of playboy quality pictures.
What should I conclude from that? Is the Moscow based prostitutki site just a massive bait and switch operation or are the girls in Moscow that hot?
By comparison the babes on the Omen site for St. Pete are few and far between. Any answer on this would be appreciated.
Rovnak,
I can personally confirm the profiles, phone numbers and pictures on Omen are real. I spent time with a StP girl who advertised on Omen and it was 100% accurate. Although her pictures were shot under studio conditions and with possible digitial enhancements it was the same girl. I guess it makes business sense to be honest plus they tend to normal girls, my girl was a student. However if you see pictures of Carmen Electra or equivalents in those glossy magazines mentioned by Doc_Skank then it's probably BS and likely to be the complete opposite, if you have reservations do as I did and target 'normal' photo profiles.
Anyway I have attached my Omen St. Petersburg specific search link, age < 30, height < 175cm, weight < 60kg. I hope you find it useful. You may have to cut and paste each line into the http Address line.
http://an.aport.ru/scripts/template.dll?z0=lh%5FObjective%3D11%2Clh%5FGender%3D2%2Cl%5FAge%3D18%2Ch%5FAge%3D30%2Ch%5FLength%3D175%2Ch%5FWeight%3D60%2Clh%5FCity%3D3%2Clh%5FPhoto%3D1&base=love1&Tn=2&Ini=20.ini&Rt=2&sf=timestamp&Sort=8&p=1
Or if you have problem you could try from 1st principles:
http://omen.ru/love/poiski.htm
You can translate websites on:
http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/tr
Good luck.
The Rules of Engagement
Experiences at Magrib & Rossi's from the perspective of a non-caucasian, 33yr old.
Magrib:
Magrib is your typical upmarket ex-pat venue. It's not bad and caters for everything in terms of food & entertainment with the restaurant & disco. One problem is the toilet, one unisex toilet for all restaurant patrons. Prices are not cheap but Western standard food. Food is okay if you can reconcile eating Japanese food in a Moroccan setting. I came to know Magrib and it's style because I visited the place consecutively over a number of days. My objective was to scope the place and to assess it's modus operandi.
Day 1:
I walked into Magrib around 22:00 and found a strategically located table on the restaurant side and ordered a drink. The restaurant is broken up into partitions or sections with clusters of tables. My partition was full of girls who appeared to be 'working' but off duty. It was pretty obvious they were working given their tight revealing clothes, lack of conversation and 'wingman' configuration i.e. pairs. They were all good looking and worth the $ but they must have been off duty or preparing for duty because they did not initiate or sustain any 'lock' (eye contact), strange? Anyway after watching all the 'models' I retreated to my hotel feeling hot & horny (I didn't know about the disco).
Rule 1 - It's better to bug out and fight another day than push a bad position i.e. never fuck a hotel hooker.
I broke a major rule of engagement. On the way up to my room in the hotel I noticed the hookers loitering around the lobby. In hindsight not the best looking but screwable given my desperation for sexual fulfilment at the time. Anyway I struck a conversation with a girl who wanted RUR3,500 / 1hr. Given my preliminary research I already knew it was expensive but I was clearly not thinking of my wallet. I said RUR 3,000 which see accepted and she arranged to meet in my room in 5 mins.
- The 1st warning sign, pay first. Fine, so no tip but it was a pre-cursor to average performance.
- 2nd annoyance, no photos. Fuck, for that $ I couldn't even take pictures of the dog in her clothes. That's fucked.
- No kissing or BBBJ and to compound the situation she performs a 1 min BJ and jumps straight on, then pants and moans for a few mins and asks if I'm done. That was it, it totally killed my mood.
- Short Hour. I asked for a massage but she said the time was up (after 40 mins) and that she had to get back or her pimp would give her a hard time. Fuck, as if I was born yesterday.
This is the first occasion I felt like pulling out and sending the girl off prior to finishing my time. I just put it towards a bad experience and tuition fees. Incidentally, the Moskva Hotel is a dump. I rate it an optimistic 1 star. It's big, noisy with a shitty bathroom & toilet and very unfriendly staff. I don't recommend staying there and given the presence of hotel hookers probably not conducive to mongering activities.
Day 2, 3, 4
Magrib Disco - The Market
The problem with the disco girls in Magrib is it very difficult to distinguish between the normal and working girls. My observations:
- Mounting Yard. It's similar to the mounting yard at the horse races where they parade around. The pros follow a similar routine. She walks past, you give her a penetrating 'lock', she skews to halt beside you, loiters for a few mins, goes out to the dance floor and performs for you and once she has your attention head to the toilets or the raised area at the back of the disco to await your approach.
- Dancing. Normal girls will dance and do so for prolonged periods of time. The pros/semi-pros also dance but for short sharp bursts to generally highlight their implied sexual ability.
- Configuration. They seem to working in formations of 2 or 3.
- Handbags. The working girls have their handbags with them at all times presumably to enable a quick getaway.
The cover charge RUR 300 on Saturday. IMHO it's worth it if only to sample the marvellous Slavic eye candy, you're guaranteed not to see an ugly bird.
Rule 2 - An example of what not to do - Don't ask "how much" without first establishing if she's a hired hand.
I crashed and burned chatting up an 18yr old hottie. The conversation was progressing nicely when I asked if she wanted to come to my hotel thinking she was for hire. She asked "for what" (was she naïve?) so I countered by asking "how much". That was a mistake because it set her off, she went into a tirade about me thinking she was a prostitute. Well, her looks belied here age and her skimpy dress gave a different message.
It's amazing what you can get away with in Russian and on Russian women. Here's a classic. I chatted to a hot, blond girl at the cloakroom on my way out. I asked 'What's your name" (non-aggressive opening line), she replied "Aleesa", "What do you do?" (a filler question) - "I work in a casino", "Where are you going?" (getting to the point) - "Home to sleep…", I said "Why don't you come back to my hotel?" (She was leaving so I didn't have time to muck around) - "No, I'm really tired and want to go home to sleep but thanks anyway". I couldn't believe it, she actually contemplated my offer! If I tried that at home I would have been slapped or told to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] off.
Rossi - "Even Goose could laid in a place like this..."
The cover was RUR 200 (men) / 100 (women) on Friday. A more youngish crowd than Magrib. There is plenty of eye contact and an abundance of hot looking girls. IMHO on the night they had better looking girls than Magrib. I was with female company so I was constrained but it looks fairly easy to pick up girls in Rossi's. I noticed the Russian women respond well to pick up overtures. I suspect they get little or no quality attention from the local guys so they respond to the basic 'lock' and a smile. It kind of gives them a 'head's up' to expect your approach. There was an amateur stripe tease show that night so I was humorously wondering what to say to a participant "I feel I already know you because I've seen your tits!".
Conclusion
I've worked in Central/Slavonic Europe for a few years plus I've circled the globe a number of times to sightsee and sample local produce. Clearly everyone has their own tastes and preferences but from my experience I think Russian women are the best looking women in the world. What stands out about Russian women as opposed to the rest of the world is their quality, height, range and volume. The Russians also have amazing ethnic diversity which makes sense for a country that spans Scandinavia, the Stans, Asia, North Korea.
Russia is definitely the place to monger and/or find your 'model' wife/mistress.
I just could not help but say, that it seems to me highly ineffective to go to RUS to fuk pros. One can get better service in Canada or Latin Amer. with less hassles better weather and relatively more safety.
My point is. If you are not on a market to go after non pro action due to your age or lack of RUS language skills,then you are wasting your time money and risking your health and in some cases life for nothing.
Average RUS pro looks jut that....: average. Judging by photos posted on this board most of the girls are plain ugly.
I understand that it is pretty exciting to walk the streets of St-Pete or Moscow and soak in all that sexual energy and eye candy that streets are offering. But to go and sleep with ugly *****s after (like many do) ,would make me only frustrated and bitter instead of happy and content. Guys lets face the reality.
If you don't go after non-pros in RUS you doing the version of this: "Watching good erotic flick and then going and fuking your fat and unattractive wife”, if you catch my drift.
P.S. If you in RUS regularly on business then by all means hire a fuking RUS language teacher and start conversing with those girls. Why? Is it worth it?
RUS women are so much fun in conversation you will have a blast. It is nothing like conversing with a western 20 y.o. By the age of 20 RUS are much more developed mentally and much more romantic then their western counterparts.
Here is example of quick exchange with 21 y.o. girl at a party.
Me: I am too old and frail for you sweetie. I am tired and have to sleep alone tonight.
She: Well I am young healthy and full of energy.
Me: That is exactly my point. That is why we no good together:))
She: Well you might know that two "-" repel each other But one "-" and one "+" will always attract .:))
Laughing my ass off.......
I can live another 10 years in US and I would never hear sexy 21 y.o. girl saying anything even close to that.
God bless mother Russia :)))
Mohctep,
You make some good points. But much of your logic is predicated on stating that the pros are ugly or average looking.
So if you go to Maghrib, where there is a mixture of pro and non-pro, and the 5 hottest girls there are pros, does that undermine your position? Are yoou saying that all pros are equal, in reading these boards, it seems many are of the opinion that a large number of the working girls are not full time sex workers but part time semi-pro's if you will.
Humsup,
Thank you for the link. I am familiar with the site. FYI, this translation service appears to work a bit better than babelfish.
http://www.online-translator.com/url/tran_url.asp?lang=en&url=http%3A%2F%2Fomen.ru%2Flove%2Fpoiski.htm&direction=re&template=General&cp1=NO&cp2=NO&autotranslate=on&transliterate=on&psubmit2.x=24&psubmit2.y=15
This one handles the omen home page whereas babelfish generates an error.
Pulskovskay Hotel (Pobedo Square), close to airport.
Stayed overnight (with friends), no opportunity for P4P :( . The standard of the hotel has improved a lot since my last stay in 2001. USD.150 a night.
Noticed 3 WG's in the lobby at about 2300 hours. Did not get the chance to ask costs, but they all looked about 5-6, and in their late 20'ies.
Security absolutely present, and they stopped a girl from entering the hotel. I guess business was to slow that night, so they did not want to ruin the marked with more ladies than guests :)
Hi fellow mongers,
if somebody is in town this weekend and able to have some drinks or more with me. Please let me know.
Shos
Dear Sir,
I have read your posts, You are honest truthfull man. I respect you. I am comming to Saint Petersberg December 28th and leaving March 1st. In my eyes you are straight honest shooter, you tell no lies. I would be honor to meet you and spend time with you, if I should be so lucky. I am a Canadian from British_Columbia. I hope you consider my offer and I would not only be gratefull but extreemly thankfull. Besides you are the MAN in all readers eyes that read your posts You do not Bull shit. And I can tell from your writting you also have a heart and you treat these beauties with respect and dignity. Sincerly Yours Brian Moloney
My idea was to have interesting conversation in St Pete forum. Why do I find this forum empty? In Pete 5 million people, why why why no conversation. And please El Soave, do not write so difficult language, I am only a girl from the kolhos!
El Suave,
I did not really mean to make you feel angry, but it was very entertaining to read your comments :-) I only hope that girls you have made so happy with your dick would make reservations in your Bolshaja Marskaja apartment next time! I am a freebie also!
Poka, Maria
Interesting picture Doc! What is behind the courtain???
[QUOTE=Doctor_Skank]During a recent excursion to St.Pete, I tried my luck at a salon. My luck failed me.
It wasn't like I wasn't well prepared, and I know lots of guys have done very well there, but I ended up at a grade C place.
Interested in finding any random salon or apartment, I bought a glossy contact magazine called "Zhurnal Znakomstva: Randevu". You can find it at many kiosks, and there are actually many mags just like it. Just ask for a "Journal Znakomstva" and you'll get it or a similar mag.
In it are literally hundreds of numbers. I picked a full size add, equating this somehow with quality, which would turn out to be wrong. I was reading the mag in a small cafe just off of Nevsky, the mildly cute waitress flirting with me until she saw me reading the journal... was a comical situation.
In any case, to make a long story short, the place is at 128 Nevsky, apartment 10. Through the arch next to the photo shop and immediately to your left in the courtyard. Pretty grim courtyard.
Humsup reported on it too, although he seemed to do better than I did.... especially with his very cute Snezhanna girl from the other apartment.
I ended up with a 22 year old Ukrainian. Body and face OK, but she just looked like she'd been through the wringer one too many times.
Price was 1400 rubles if I remember correctly for an hour of sex, of which I'd only want 15. Dingy facilities, average girl, only drinks were tea.
N fault of her own really, but she somehow turned me off, I just wasn't into it. I didn't ask to kiss her. Was happy she only gave me a CBJ and after hurrying to finish, I told her I was done after 15 minutes. Some basic conversation confirmed that she had been in St.Pete for 2 years already... a long time in the business.
I didn't want a round two. Somehow the atmosphere just isn't for me, I'll try to find a more luxury place next time. I told her she could get dressed and I sat on the couch outside waiting for my friend for a while. Maybe I was just too tired, or maybe it was the cold rain... but this just wasn't a St.Pete highlight for me. The sex was standard decent basic stuff.... like at an Amsterdam redlight window or a budget German FKK.
Here is a view of the facilities.[/QUOTE]
MOHCTEP, what you say really makes sense. Could you please recommend us a good place for hiring a fun and interesting language teacher?
Regards.
Bimbo Boy
[QUOTE=mohctep]I just could not help but say, that it seems to me highly ineffective to go to RUS to fuk pros. If you in RUS regularly on business then by all means hire a fuking RUS language teacher and start conversing with those girls. Why? Is it worth it?
RUS women are so much fun in conversation you will have a blast.
Does anyone have experience with [url]www.petersburg-lodging.com[/url] ?
It looks nice on the photos, however from what I read in this forum it can also become a big disappointment, depending upon the company that ytou rent from.
Any other recommendations for apartments in SPB that have a good price/quality ratio based on your experience?
Thanx for any advice.
There are hotels in St Petes for $120 per night. THat is rather a high price for an apartment but the city is not very customer oriented. I think that you would like the beds in some of the hotels over the apartments. Russia has beds with a small amount of matress padding and no box springs. You will benefit from the security in the hotels as well.
I stayed near the Nevsky river in the Moscva hotel. It has a card access for the room and great view of the river. Also not far from Nevsky.
J05...
I'm confused. In this thread you are pushing this hotel because of the great security and in the photo gallery you make this statement...
"Took her to the Moscva hotel and registered her. The next day security was blocking her entrance to the elevator and asking for her papers. It was like one of those Nazi movies. If you don't have your papers do they shoot you. Security in Russia is the Russian Mafia looking for protection money. Everyone knows it but you can do nothing to stop them"
Personally, I agree with your statement in the photo gallery. In my experience, Spb hotel security is the worst and even in Moscow hotel security is a pain in the ass with the exception of the Marriotts and a few other rare hotels.
In RU, apartments are the ONLY way to go. Even if the apartment is the same price as the hotel, it is usually more private and more comfortable.
Mike #3... You are correct, many companies offer different levels of quality/cleanliness/amenities/etc and it is critical that you research which companies offer the best service. The best way to determine which apartment rental companies offer the best value is to use the resources of this site and others. I wish you luck.
I am not pushing any hotel in Russia. I think that most of them in SPB are WAY over priced for what you get. IMHO, it is not going to be easy to get rid of the Russian Mafia, so finding an apartment would be my recommendation.
It just seems that, for a place with tons of hookers, SPB should be a little more girl friendly in their hotels.
Hi.
I was reading nearly two years back about a place called Salon SPA "AELITA" they are at 179 Moskovsky Prospect (St. Petersburg). Next to the Jaguar Dealership. You have to go around to the side of the building near the very back. As I was staying at Htl. Pulkovskaya it was just a quick walk from the htl. First time I purchased a 60 minute erotic body massage for 1800 rubles and recieved an amazing massage and release from an 20+ year old read head called Lisa. I must say I have paid for real pussy but got a lot worse than this. When she was riding me I could have sweared I got the real thing... She was sooooo hot, and didn't even ask for any money. Next day I went back and tried a girl with rasta hair. Took a VIP room with sauna and jacussi for 3200 rubles. Did not work out the same as the day before. Next day I was leaving but went there 1100am to see if Lisa was back. She was and this time a erotic soap massage was ordered with only one girl. 2800 rubles. Nice body to body and releif. I can reccomend a try here if you feel for a nice massage or a warm soap scrub. Their number is 387-1408 and 387-1415 and they speak good english. Also, they have a nice place, and a relaxed atmosphere.
Hi Nyfiken,
In my previous trip to STB, I went to AELITA twice and really loved that place. I got a chance to know a Russian guy. He told me that AELITA was designed for those "high-class" customers and supposed to have the best girls. Here is the web site: [url]www.aelita-spa.spb.ru[/url].
Thanks for the recommand. I don't find Lisa on their web site (the web site may not be updated). It is my first time to post a thread here. Say Hello to everyone.
Beside of AELITA, is there any other message salon that can speak english?
Hi All,
I will be visiting Spb in April. Can anyone recommend at good private apartment for rent in the central area?
Thanks
Hello all,
One comment and one question.
1. Thanks for the Aelita spa post. But I looked at it and it says "No intimate services". It sounds like a jack off shop and the girls are not drop dead gorgeous as the girls on redclub.ru or zna.ru. For $64, a jerk off seems expensive. The idea of travelling all the way to Russia to find hot women because the western women in your country only work in jack off shops and then to pay $64 for a jackoff shop is depressing. Is there no sex? If not, I'd say fuck 'em. By the way the spa's website looks great and has an ENglish version. But then it makes me wonder whether some jag off westerner started Aelita and introduced this western concept of paying $64 to jerk off to Russia, the last bastion of getting laid with hot chicks for less than that.
2. On a more serious note, I have a question. I had always planned to go to St. Petersburg but I bypassed this board after reading that the HIV infection rate is higher in St. Petersburg than Moscow. The news reports I read said the reason is because the girls are not organized and their is more girls shooting up in St. Petersburg than in Moscow and that the agencies in Moscow do not tolerate girls using drugs. ANy truth to that? That is why I am cautious about going to ST. Petersburg vs Moscow.
3. Last stupid question. If you are showering or bathing or even sitting in the water at a spa with these girls, and they are infected, can the water carry the virus?
Thanks. I really hope that you can get laid at the spa. I am not trying to ruin your fun. But your posts sound like they are jack off shops. That is really depressing to hear that you have to pay $64 to get jerked off or to dry hump someone. What is the world coming to?
I admit that you are right in some of your observations. There are no intimate services provided, but I went to St. Petersburg on a business trip, not by a sex trip. The sex could have been the bonus.
I tried to get someone via Omen.ru but it is hopeless if you do not speak any Russian. I spent hours on metro stations to be picked up after making arrangements, but it failed two times. (at least I thought we had an arrangement).
St Petersburg is cold and windy at this time. All I can say is that I really enjoyed the $64 for a nice warm scrub body to body with a nice girl at that time. If my only reason to go to St. Petersburg was to get laid I would have been disappointed too. I have been there before a couple of times, and last time I was very lucky and found someone on Omen.ru that spoke English. Regarding your "last stupid question" I do not know. I just hope.
In answer to my own question from a few days ago - If you are looking for a short-term apartment in the center area of Spb try:
[url]www.cityrealtyrussia.com[/url] or
[url]http://apartment-rentals-russia.com/[/url] "arent apartments"
This shold be in the general info, but i put it here cause happend in St Pete. Just be careful.
ST. PETERSBURG, Russia - Assailants attacked Angolan, Bangladeshi and Chinese students in three separate weekend incidents, officials said Monday, the latest in a series of racially motivated assaults that underscore growing violent racism in Russia.
The Angolan student was attacked by several people in a subway station Sunday night. The 26-year-old was hospitalized with head injuries and knife wounds, said Desire Deffo, deputy head of the African Union in St. Petersburg. The student was in satisfactory condition Monday.
Deffo said the Angolan student reported that the assailants looked like skinheads, and the Interfax news agency reported that at least two people were detained.
A fifth-year medical student from Bangladesh was attacked Saturday by a group of people near a subway station in the north of the city. Mozibul Haque, the head of the Bangladeshi community in St. Petersburg, said the student was hospitalized with head wounds.
Also Saturday, a group of unknown people beat a Chinese student from the St. Petersburg Music Conservatory on the city's main avenue, Nevsky Prospect. The student was also hospitalized with head wounds, Interfax said.
No one answered the phones at the police department Monday.
Deffo said racial attacks had become more frequent in St. Petersburg in recent months, leaving foreigners afraid to walk the streets. He blamed inaction by law enforcement agencies.
"Many attackers remain without punishment and feel they can keep doing it," he said.
Racist attacks on Jews, dark-skinned foreigners and people from Russia's North Caucasus have become increasingly frequent in Russia's big cities, reflecting a rise in xenophobia and racism. Non-government experts estimate about 50,000 skinheads are active in Russia.
Seek Rus,
Thanks for the warning. I cautioned non-white mongers about this last year and some mongers took it lightly. My caution was from personal and a cousin's (he almost died) experience. It is sad and unfortunate but it is a reality. I still miss my Russian friends but I don't intend on visiting Russia anytime soon.
Have fun but be safe.
Member #1846
It is very difficult and maybe slightly unfair to generalize this. Especially from a small overshadowing number of very bad and disgraceful incidents. But I appreciate such an 'experience' can be really bad.
If you are at the wrong time at the wrong place and maybe in the eyes of these strange offenders you behave different you may get into problems everywhere.
What I like to state is that can happen everywhere, everytime in most parts of the world for very different reasons.
I myself went into an armed robbery in Miami, lost a golden ring, a golden necklace and my 'second' purse with a couple of 100's dollars and my passports.
As it happened on the second day of my holiday trip I was able to get new passports and life continued. I only lost my permanant US visa, which wasn't put in my new passport afterwards.
I still travel to US from time to time, although being an European I prefer to be in Europe, especially in Eastern Europe. I'd only wish I'd had more time for the hobby.
St Petersburg has lovely escorts. Use the St Petersburg Times on-line or paper classifieds and enjoy. I saw a beautiful 20 year old college student in her apartment for 2 hours ($150, plus $15 for the apartment). She was sweet, served tea, kissed and was affectionate. She was so attractive-- 5'10'', thin, medium breasts--that we had to do it 3 times in the two hours. I recommend Lena's "CATS" service, though, several other attractive girls from the on-line services were free, but didn't have apartments. I recommend having a cab driver use his cell phone to locate the place if you go out--the cyrillic and pronunciations are tough. I think if you were a good dancer, Magribs would be the same, for free. The ratio of females to males was 3:1 and only about a quarter appeared to be professionals, most were young girls having fun. Fairly hard looking *****s approached me coming out of the nightclub and in my hotel, looking for $100 business.
This was the city that we flew into and the airport was not as big as you would expect for this size of city. It was also very easy to get through quickly, customs and immigrations was a 30 second each type stop. It is on the edge of town but they do have numerous bus line going to it.
Luckily the host company had a van lined up with the driver holding a sign with our names on it. We got in and started on our three hour trip to Novogard the Great (see other cities for that report). There were three check points on the way to that city.
After three days in Novogard the Great we returned to Saint Petersberg and
what can I say, I fell in love with Saint Petersberg! It is one of the most beautiful cities in the world with marvelous architecture and tons of tourist things to do. The ladies are beautiful, food is great and most of the time people are friendly, although you do have to watch out for con artists here. Don't buy a Rolex on the street, it is a fake and an easily spotted one that you would not wear if you bought it.
First the hotels: The first night we stayed at a very fancy tourist hotel where everything was expensive, food, rooms and the girls. Drinks would cost you about $15 for a beer. The girls were quoting $500 a night. It was something like King something on the main street. It was just too fancy for my taste, who wants to wear a suit and tie (or more) to just get a bite to eat or have a drink? Location was great but over $300 a night wasn't sensible to us although the host business was picking up the tab for the room and food.
The next day our Russian guide checked us all into a five story huge hotel that was down the street from the King something and across from one of the railroad stations. The rooms were actually bigger but not as plush. It had several places to eat and a bar or two on every floor. The price was less than $35.00. This was my type of hotel! Although it looked more like a prison than a hotel on the outside, it was comfortable on the inside. I even had a view of the traffic circle and the railroad station. It was also right on the subway line and bus lines. Very convient too. Maybe 200 yards from the expensive plush palace. Food was good and cheap, drinks were under $5 for a mixed drink and the women, while not as well dressed were quoting $150-$250 a night. I was even offered $250 for two girls for the night at 2am. The blond I chose was a little too thin and had only a B chest but she was very active and would do anything including bbbj and CIM as well as greek.
Public transportation is the best I have ever experienced. The subway is cleaner and faster than London or New York. The only strange thing is the lacking of talking as you ride down the escalator. No one talked above a whisper. You could easily spot the foreigner because they were talking normally which sounded loud in comparison. And they are some of the longest escalators I have ever seen. The subway is very deep underground. Buses were plentiful up until about 11 or 12 pm after that you might have to wait a half hour. Taxi were all over the place but not the cheapest. But if you raised your hand a regular car would stop and take you where you wanted to go for 1/2 the price of the normal taxi.
Food: Simply great, the only better food that I have had is in Argentina. And not too expensive unless you go to the tourist type places for foreigners.
We visited the Hermitage which I also think is either called the Winter Palace or it is connected. We also did a walk through of a naval museum that was across the street from them. I could spend several days just going through these three and not be bored. There are numerous cafes and bars in this area that seem to have there fair share of working girls. And are fun places to hang out too.
The normal non-pro ladies seemed very helpful and friendly so freebies are not out of the question here. The weather was miserable to say the least with the cold and snow, but I still enjoyed every minute I was here. Don't get me wrong, it wasn't a cheap visit, but I had a great time here. The one complaint I had was with the heat in the hotel. You don't have control over the heat for each room. It was either by floor or maybe the entire building. If I didn't have a bed warmer, it would have been really cold.
We had several site surveys to conduct in this city so I didn't get to see anywhere close to even 5% of the city although we were here for five days. It is on my list to return to in the near future.
We left at 7 pm on the night train to Moscow (see that section for that report). I really want to return here as soon as I can, it was such a beautiful place.
For those of you that want to travel to Russia on a business visa without actually having business there.
Advantage of business visa: No hotel stay required, can stay in an apartment and travel freely anywhere in Russia without approval.
Disadvantage of a business visa: You have to register it in the Ministry of Commerce (not 100% sure of which ministry but there they will direct you when you go) and there is one lady there that I nicknamed Witch Hazel. She really has a problem with any American doing business in Russia and makes every effort to disapprove it and make you leave Russia (within three business days of entry).
Since it was my responsibility to get the visa for Russia, I did an internet search for buisness visa for Saint Petersberg, Russia. I only had a selection of three or four and went with the cheapest. I had to wait for about a month for the paperwork to be initiated and approved in Saint Petersberg and then sent on to me in the states, before I could send it on to the Embassy in San Francisco, CA. I was so close on time that I really didn't pay any attention to all of the forms, but it had all been approved with every office stamping it, so I thought it was correct. When I tried to register it in Saint Petersberg is where I found out that the sponsor of my business visa was also a marriage agency (didn't say that on the link that I applied for it on) and Witch Hazel spotted it right away. BIG PROBLEM! She was convinced I was there checking out women and wanted me gone!
It took many faxes from my host company to convince her I was there for legitimate business. And it really looked like I would be returning to the states without a chance to bid on the contract I was there for. So for those of you who would like to take a short cut to get a business visa be very careful or you will be going home in three business days. Luckily, there was a Russian holiday there or I would have had to leave.
A word to the wise!
There's a better business visa, a monkey business visa.
Only registering you need is with the mamachka, but not
your visa! Maybe just pizda!
This research took place during 7 days in December 2004 but because of problems with WSG server during the months thereafter my post was delayed. I will describe how I found girls and how they performed in their apartments and in my place. Prices varied between 600 and 2000 rubles per hour.
As I was a newbie at that time I ran into some basic problems. Therefore I decided also to include a lot of practical information for beginners. I will include information about prices, public transport, taxis, safety and how to find a girls’ address. As I speak intermediate Russian, I herewith reflect what a Russian speaking foreigner will find on the domestic (=Russian speaking) p4p market in St. Pete.
Reading the St. Petersburg and Moscow threads of this forum, I got the feeling that all action is currently happening in Moscow, given the posts of some honourable members to whom I express my gratitude. Special thanks to CA Traveler, Dr. Skank, Shostakovich and Stravinsky. I hope to meet some you guys for a beer one day. St. Petersburg has a lot to offer and I hope that Piter will be back in the spotlights after this humble contribution.
Going to their apartments
Being adventurous I wanted to try some of the apartments in St. Pete that host working girls. You can find listings of them on [url]www.omen.ru[/url] (only in Russian) and in two printed magazines that are distributed on the streets (also in Russian, forgot the names). If you want to make a booking in such an apartment, you should speak Russian at least at intermediate level because their knowledge of English is mostly near to zero. I met a few exceptions though. All directions are given in Russian, so you have to understand the grammatical concepts of time (when), space (where). By the way: the Russian language has a steep learning curve, so keep in mind that you do not speak “intermediate” Russian after studying the Berlitz phrase book. You might be able to splutter a phrase or two but you won’t even get close to understanding the answers.
The reward is worth the effort however. If you travel, like I did, to apartments in the outskirts of St. Pete you will get laid for two hours for 2500 rubles with beautiful Russian girls who rarely see a foreigner during winter.
In the beginning I felt a little insecure about travelling to the outskirts (up to 45 minutes metro ride from the city centre), especially after dark. And in December this is already after 15:30. However after some time you get used to the desolate metro stations, black-dressed, never-smiling people and large blocks of Soviet flats. During my metro journeys I killed the time by reading a book, which often attracted the attention of the dyev sitting next to me because it was in a non-Russian language. This little trick worked, at least in winter in the outskirts and not during rush hour. I would not recommend doing this when men sit next to you.
The quality of the apartments varied from dark and worn-out komunalkas to recently western-style renovated flats with laminated floors. They were always occupied by friendly girls who were happy to help you, albeit it in Russian.
The apartment girls
Once you have mastered all hurdles you suddenly find yourself in a spacious, completely renovated flat close to metro station Park Pabedy. There I spent two hours with a 23-year-old beauty called Nastya. She did her best to create a romantic atmosphere by lightning about 10 small candles in the room and putting the light out. Got a CBJ which was OK and fucked her nice shaven pussy in doggy position. I spent almost half of my paid time talking to her. 1 shot / 2500 rubles.
Another one from the same apartment was a 30-year-old very petite (1.52m/38 kg) doll called Ksana. Her performance was a little less than Nastya however fucking such a petite girl was an experience on itself. Amazing how she took it all. 2 shots/2500 rubles/2 hours.
On the other side of the spectrum there were musty and dark apartments near metro stations Moskovskie Vorota and Kurchino. When you enter this environment for the first time it might intimidate you somewhat, but remember that you are like a treasure hunter, a kind of Indiana Jones. The girls stay there because it’s cheap, not to frighten you. And the quality of the apartment is no indication for the quality of the girls. You might well find some hidden jewels.
One was an 18-year-old from Uzbekistan with an athletic body and very nice size C breasts. In the beginning she was a little reserved however after DATY and fingering her tight ass for some time she got aroused and very, very wet. We fucked for more than half an hour and almost fell out of the bed. After a short pause we went for round two. She gave me a CBJ and I fucked her standing upright. The only disadvantage was that her skin felt like sand paper. 2 shots. 3000 rubles / 2 hours.
The other one was a petite 20-year-old girl next door with nice teeny tits. She loved to ride on top but did not seem to enjoy other positions. She came violently once, strongly squeezing her pussy. The second round she was more relaxed and we performed carezza for almost an hour. 2 shots. 2500 rubles / 2 hours.
Karina came from the far eastern regions and was indeed a Pearl of the East. She was very romantic and a total GFE. She started with a full body Thai massage rubbing my dick between her firm B size tits. Her pussy was closed but opened as a lotus flower after DATY. She was tight, very tight. She used her vaginal muscles. She was sitting on top of me and she could make me come by only squeezing with her muscles. It was a crazy experience. The only thing I had to do was lie down and come. 2 shots / 3000 rubles.
Safety in the apartments
We probably heard stories of men getting robbed (or drugged) when visiting apartments but I think it very seldom happens (if ever). I suspect that those men were already drunk before they entered the apartment which made them an easy target. During my apartment visits I never had the idea that something might happen to me. If you feel insecure, follow your senses and take the usual precautions: go by daylight, only drink mineral water from a sealed bottle (or don’t drink at all), “accidentally” walk into the adjacent rooms to check who’s there, or simply leave. Don’t carry more cash then strictly necessary (about 2 times the price you are planning to pay for the girl) and leave your credit cards at a safe place so when you your wallet is stolen it wont be a disaster.
Travelling to the apartments and back
Travelling from/to the apartments in the evening hours must be planned carefully if you use public transport. All public transport in St. Pete is dead after midnight. Plan your last visit to end around 22:30 so that you have plenty of time to return home. Remember that a walk to the metro station can take half an hour or more. When there is no public transport you can take a taxi (expensive for foreigners) or stop a private car and negotiate about the price. The latter is not advised for beginners. The best way is to let the girls arrange a return taxi for you.
Taxis
There has been written a lot about taxis in St. Pete and the prices they charge for foreigners. A reasonable company is Taxi Blues (271 88 88). They quote the approximate price for the journey beforehand. For a ride from the city centre to the airport they charged me about 500 rubles which is not a bad price, given that most hotels and apartment rental companies will charge you anything between 750 and 1500 rubles. Every now and then they have an English speaking operator.
Finding a girls’ address in St. Pete
Finding an address in St. Pete can be a pain in the ass if you don’t know how it works. When you have called a girl and decided to go to her, she will give you the address of the apartment where she resides. Addresses consist of three to five parts: street name (ulitsa, улица), building number (dom, дом) and apartment number (kvartira, квартира), often preceded by the closest metro station (stantsiya metro, станция метро). Buildings can be as large as 200x200 meters with multiple entrances (all closed) and code locks. Building numbers are often not visible and apartment numbers are frequently hand-painted on the walls and worn-off. Another thing you need is the door code (kod, код) to unlock the entrance door which leads to the staircase to the apartment. Otherwise you find yourself outside in the cold and you can’t get in. And because you forgot your mobile phone you can’t ask them. Or worse, you don’t have a hell of an idea where you have to go to because you can’t crack the stantsiya-ulitsa-dom-kod-kvartira series....
A short “worst case” beginner’s guide for finding an address or apartment in St. Pete:
Let’s assume that you want to visit a girl in St. Pete and that you have the address containing of metro station – street name – building number – door code – and apartment number (stantsiya-ulitsa-dom-kod-kvartira) . This is the most complex case.
Now what should you do? The first thing you have to do is get a detailed street plan that covers the whole of Sint Petersburg. Street plans that only show you the city centre are useless if you travel to the outskirts. Then take the metro, travel to the metro station (stantsiya) and find the right exit to the city. Once outside you have to search for the street name (ulitsa) where the building is located. When you found the street, you have to locate the building (dom) with the right number. If building numbers are not visible (which is often the case), you have to ask a local or try to estimate it from adjacent building numbers. Sometimes building numbers can get quite confusing. I have seen buildings numbered “3-5” followed by “1/7” (pay attention to the use of the “-” and “/“). It actually meant that the first building contained the buildings numbers 3 to 5 and the second building contained the numbers 1 and 7. The confusing thing is that, in this case, building number 3 actually comes before building number 1 which you normally do not expect. Because of this I once walked into the wrong building, knocking at the door of the wrong apartment. Had to explain an old babushka what I was doing at her door.
When you have found the right building, it’s time to find the right entrance. Buildings can be very large (up to 200x200 meters) and have several entrances which are not interconnected. You cannot simply walk to another part of the building when you entered through the wrong entrance. You have to go outside and take another one. Take some time to walk around the whole building. Your entrance might also be at the back of the building, which sometimes seems to be another street but still is named after the first street. Normally, every entrance lists the apartment numbers that are behind it. But sometimes the apartment numbers were hand-painted on the wall years ago and worn off, or are not listed at all. If that’s the case, ask a local again or call the girls on your mobile phone and ask them which entrance to use or that they meet you outside.
When you have found the right entrance, you have to open it. If you have done your work right, you have asked the girls for the door code (kod) to open the entrance. If not, then it’s time to get your mobile phone again and ask them. The coded door lock is a small iron box with 10 keys numbered from 0 to 9. The code (mostly 3 digits) has to be pressed *simultaneously*. Many newbies including me try to enter the digits sequentially (like typing a phone number) and don’t get in. Modern-looking digital locks accept sequentially entered numbers. When you have opened the entrance, you will be in the staircase. Sometimes you see an elevator and sometimes you don’t but when you see one you probably won’t dare to use it.
The last step is to find the apartment (kvartira). Apartment numbers are small numbers, often nailed to the door frame at the very top. You easily overlook them. Finally you have to ring the bell (or knock on the door if the bell doesn’t work) and you’re inside. It’s easy. If you know how it works...
Part II will follow soon.
PtG.
peter,
great report and very detailed for the beginner. i've been to spb twice and used omen.ru to get some numbers. i found that one in five will understand a litte english, and if you have a little bit of russian (found at the back of travel book you can work out the address). good to have a mobile phone though as the the apartment numbering can be confusing. i think i've reported on one good one last year.
most of the time i used to write the address clearly and hail a private car, and show him the address. i usually paid 100 roubles, maybe 150 if it was over half an hours journey. i think this is a safe option so long as you don't get into a private car with more than one person already in the car. the metro system is a lot quicker and, of course, cheaper.
speed touch
HM2... I apologize for correcting some of your comments about visas, but there is so much misinformation floating around. So, take this for what it is worth...
As you said, business visas normally take about three weeks to have a 1 yr. ME visa invitation issued. Most Consulates require that you produce the original invitation when you apply for the actual visa. Also, some companies can expedite the issuance of the biz invitation, but it can be very costly... and it is not usually advertised because it all depends on who the issuing agency knows.
However, so there is no misunderstanding... Both Tourist AND Business visas can be registered at a hotel. If have a mulitiple entry visa and you live on a "permanent" basis in an apartment in Moscow/Spb you can have your landlord register you for 6 months even if you come and go so you don't have to mess with it everytime you enter and leave. There is a cost involved which is supposed to compensate the city for "services". Likewise, even if you stay short term in an apartment, there are people in both cities who will register your visa. Cost will range from $20 to $50.
If you have a ME 1 yr. visa, you are technically supposed to leave RU every 6 months and you will have to leave when your visa expires to get a new visa. Most Xpats enjoy their visa runs because it gives them a chance to get out of the house for a couple of weeks. There is technically a loophole that allows you to stay in Russia while your new visa is processed, but it is not worth discussing here because I don't have 1st hand knowledge that it really works.
Whether you have a tourist or a business visa, it is important to understand that registration is very important. You have 1 day to register your visa if you stay in a hotel and 3 days to register your visa if you stay in an apartment. Also, don't think that because you arrive at 2359 on Monday that you have until 2358 to get a hotel to register you... The militicia will count the first day no matter what time you arrive. PLUS, there is a new law recently passed by the DUMA that authorizes fines if you are not registered after 5 days to be 50,000 rubles. So you must register or you'll be sorry. Of course, you can also register your visa by jumping through the hoops at the local office of whichever RU ministry is currently responsible, but I really don't recommend that route unless you are traveling on an invitation from the Ministry of the Interior or Foreign Affairs because you will then be subject to the whims of the Russian, read former Soviet, apparatchiks and you'll get to have a glimpse of how life used to be in the CCCP where customer service was not even a word let alone a concept!
Also, remember that if you stay in an apartment, you will most likely have to use one of the outside "sources" to register your visa because you will NOT likely get the landlord to register you officially if you are only there for a couple of weeks or even a month.
One more thing, if you will be in the same city/hotel for a long visit, a hotel cannot register you for more than 30 days. If you have a biz visa of 90-365 days, don't let the hotel put register you for more than a month because some militicia will nail you when you think you are officially registered.
Also, one last caution... The laws affecting visas and registration change frequently. So if you read something posted 6 months ago, there is a good chance that some of the information is not current. There are several good websites that spell out exactly what is required. One suggestion but not an endorsement is [url]www.visahouse.com[/url], but the best sources are the Russian Consulates themselves. There are four in the USA and each has a specific responsibility for issuing visas for certain states. Plus, many of the foreign RU Consulates will issue visas for USA citizens and the costs and regulations vary even among the RU Consulates in the USA. However, be advised that some of the foreign RU Consulates will only issue visas for citizens of their host countries!
Another good source of info when you are in Russia is to talk to Xpats who have lived in Russia for a period of time. People who live with this year after year soon are forced to become experts on the ins and outs of the visa mess.
Good luck!
guys (and girls for all you wonderful lesbians out there!),
the details of the erotic massage is on [url]http://interweb.spb.ru/girls/[/url]
it's a body to body massage for 1 hour. the flats are ok (by russian standards) and some of them have mirror on the ceilings and walls. certainly an experience to be had.
looks like the price has gone to 1000 roubles for 1hour (was 700 2 yrs ago, inflation!) - great looking girls though. no sex but a hand job, maybe boob job at the end. 1500 for 2 girls.
you have to book in advance and they usually have one girl who can speak english. all 3 numbers relate to different flats and girls.
speed touch
if you don’t want to go through the trouble of finding a girls’ apartment, you can also ask them to come to your place. i managed to see a fair number of girls in my apartment. not all the girls i contacted wanted to come to me, especially when they lived far away or late at night. in that case, they proposed to come over to them (which i already described in part i). if an advertisement lists that they also do outcall visits (Выезд) they will mostly be willing to visit you. prices varied between 600 rubles per hour for a russian private worker to 2000 rubles per hour for an english speaking dyev who worked for a pimp.
directions
when the girl visits you, you have to give her the directions. this is the opposite way as explained in part i where the girl gave directions to you. the first thing she will ask is the closest metro station. then she will ask you for street name, building number and apartment number. one of the most difficult things will be the correct pronunciation of the street name. some street names (like nevski prospekt) are easy to pronounce, however if you live in one of those streets with a tongue breaking name you will have to practice first with a local, otherwise she won’t be able to understand where you live. mostly she will be in your apartment within an hour. if you live, like i did, in an apartment behind steel doors and two code locks, ask the girl that she phones you when she has arrived at the building. you can simply walk outside and pick her up. or leave her there when you don’t like her.
the “come to my place” girls
sonya was an 18-year-old beauty who told she was going to marry soon with a man she did not love. as with many young (and not so experienced) girls, her performance was mediocre though her shaven pussy, silky skin and young soft c size tits were very nice. as an exception to the rule, she looked better (younger) than on the photos. 2 shots. price: 2500 rubles / 2 hours.
elena was a 27-year-old teacher from siberia. looks were only 6-7 however she worked hard and i got good value for money. standard sex, but still 4 shots in 3 hours. price: 4500 rubles including taxi at 03:00.
irena was a 26-year-old private worker. she did not speak one single word english. her price was $40 for 2 hours and $100 for the whole night. i saw her for 2 hours. it was dead cold that day, so when she arrived i had to peel off 6 layers of clothing and fabrics before i got to her naked skin. awesome sex, 2 shots / 1200 rubles / 2 hours. she also tried to steal my mobile phone (including the charger, smart girl!). just before she left i asked her to hand it over to me and that she would not be hurt. she just gave it back. then i asked her to turn her back to me and bend over (which made her a little nervous). i pulled down her pants and gave her a final anal fuck in front of the door she will remember for a long time. i gave her 500 rubles extra when she left. just for fun i tried her number again two days later and got a grumpy russian man on the phone.
simona was a 22-year-old (i estimated her real age 27) curvaceous economy student who spoke good english and worked for a pimp. cbj, anal, all positions, massage, everything included. performance was only so-so and too professional. she looked like she was having a postnatal depression, so i fucked her hard. price: 4000 rubles / 2 hours. 2 shots.
yana was a 24 year old crazy ukrainian, and there is a saying: when a ukrainian shows up, even a jew is screwed. she was really crazy and wanted to fuck without condom which i refused. she had firm breasts and a body of an aerobics teacher. she was exceptionally tall (1.85 m). her breath was a disaster however. she was an anal athlete and wanted me to fuck her anally. she screamed so loud it made me afraid my angry neighbours would bang at my door. fortunately it was during day time and i think my neighbours were at work. 2 shots/3000 rubles/2 hours.
liza was a little older (about 38), and on the photo in the magazine she looked so sad that i just had to ask her to come over to find out why. she was slim and well conserved for her age. it turned out that her husband had dumped her for a younger girl recently, leaving her without any source of income. currently she was involved in a lawsuit for alimony. she was very experienced and started with a nice erotic massage. then she started a bj which took almost half an hour, gently teasing me between to come and not to come. i finished in doggy position. after that we kept talking about why russian women are dumped so often by their husbands. 1 shot/2000 rubles/2 hours.
money transfer
money transfer varied with every girl. some wanted to have everything handed over to the driver beforehand (who was actually their pimp), others asked for the money afterwards. if she wants to give the money to the driver, escort her to the car to avoid that she drives away with the money. girls who work for a pimp generally charge about 500-1000 rubles extra because the pimp has to bribe the militia for some reason. and don't put your money on the table in russia. it’s russian superstition!
choosing a girl
take a lot of time to choose your girl. i looked at literally hundreds of photos and descriptions before i chose a few. about 1% of the girls satisfied my needs but spending all those hours in choosing them was already half the fun. i called two of the omen.ru girls before i flew to st. petersburg so i got laid already a few hours after arrival.
condoms etc.
except for yana, all girls had their own condoms. i did not see any of the infamous russian condoms anymore. it might be handy to take a few with you from your own country however, just for the case.
part iii comes soon!
ptg.
25+ Freebies
I did some attempts to get a freebie in the 25-35 range. I contacted four women over the Internet using ICQ and email. All of them had a daytime job, children, and sometimes even a jealous husband. All of this made it complex to arrange daytime meetings. Only evening hours or weekends were possible. Sometimes I tried to set up a meeting but they did not show up (e.g. due to problems to find a nanny or their husband suspected something). On another occasion they unexpectedly called me that they wanted to see me on short notice but I couldn’t because I was busy. Furthermore none of them could come to my place after the first or second meeting. For a woman whose primary intention is not having sex with you, you need to invest in time, attention and some small presents. Unfortunately I had a lack of time (1 week) and I was busy arranging p4p with other girls. For this short 1 week period, trying to have sex with these women turned out to be a waste of time. Maybe I just had bad luck and found the wrong girls. However at minus 15 degrees it was not very inviting to have a romantic walk outside. If you are going to stay for two weeks or longer, or if you concentrate upon finding freebies (e.g. in a bars/clubs) it will most certainly work out. You might get less sex than with p4p however because none of these girls can/want to provide sex on a daily basis, let be twice a day for an extended period.
Clubs
I went to the Tribunal, be it with female company. After some negotiation with security at the entrance so that we could leave the club without paying (working girls seem to pay money to the security to leave with a man) we went inside. It was about 23:00. You can spot the working girls miles ahead, just as the expats doing their best to look like "western men". It looked a little bleak/pathetic to me at that time. The quality of the working girls was far below my expectations and some of them looked as if they have been working here for ages. However at midnight they started a show (which wasn't even that bad) and at 01:00 the club started to fill. At 02:00 there was a more diverse choice and even some younger student like girls were coming in. Haven't asked for prices but I think they will charge you something around $200 for a night. It was a quiet evening, so the girls flocked together chatting. I picked up some scraps of their conversation. I think they called us "wallets". We left at 03:00. Don’t take a taxi or private car close to the Tribunal when you leave. They are overpriced. Instead of that walk one or two streets further.
London Club/Pub is a Russian disco. I went there only to have a quick look. Seems quite laid back and there were some shows going on where the (mostly female) audience participated in. Female to male ratio was about 4:1 that night. Thursday is Ladies night and men are only allowed to get in after midnight.
La Plage looks like a beach. Any girl coming in bikini gets free entry, though in December this was a little difficult. From the second floor you have a good view on the boobs on the dance floor. Maybe not as good for finding freebies but still worth a visit for all the eye candy.
Safety on the streets
One of the first warnings I heard in St. Pete was that I shouldn’t walk alone on the streets after midnight, and most certainly not when I was drunk. But isn’t this true for most big cities in the world? Nevsky Prospect itself is safe after midnight but some far away side streets can get a bit scary. Ask locals where not to go. I didn’t have any trouble at all though I frequently walked alone to my apartment after midnight. I followed some basic rules however. For example, when I walked to my apartment there were two ways of reaching it: one dark and empty but short road and another well lit, longer and always people walking there. Guess which one I chose?
I know the stories of people (mostly from Asia) who were attacked by hooligans. Unfortunately when your skin colour is other than white, you might draw unwanted attention in Russia. When you look like someone from the southern states, it’s better to stay low profile. Due to what happened over the past years, Russians get very nervous when they see people which appear to come from Chechnya, Kazakhstan etc. However compared to the size of St. Pete with 4 million inhabitants, your chances running into trouble are very low as long as you follow the Four Golden Rules: 1) dress like a Russian, 2) act like a Russian (but don’t drink too much), 3) don’t talk to people you don’t know and 4) follow your senses and stay away from places where you should not be.
In general I think that St. Pete is equally safe as most average European and North-American big cities. There are always some suburbs where you must not go to. But a little fear is part of the overall Russian experience. It keeps your senses sharp and you enjoy yourself more intense when you finally relax in the arms of a Russian beauty.
Apart from that, Russian drivers are your biggest hazard. They drive like madmen and pedestrians are – from their point of view – annoying obstacles. The Nevsky is often more like a race track. Be careful when you cross the streets. The traffic over here isn’t comparable to anything in Europe, the USA or Down under. Think of that when you try to cross the Nevsky and a Hummer is approaching you at 80+ km/h, tooting loudly. The probability that you are hit by a car is higher than being harassed by some lunatic.
Part IV is yet to come.
PtG.
Having fucked a number of Russian girls I have the feeling that “Russian sex” is still a little mechanical. I assume this is a leftover from the good ol’ Soviet times when sex officially did not exist. Sometimes I thought I was fucking an inflatable doll instead of a girl of flesh and blood.
Nearly all of the girls wanted to turn off the lights while having sex. This might be a strategy, shyness, or both. You might want to investigate her pussy and ass with a little light for any visible signs of STDs before entering them.
If you pay a girl, don’t put the money on the table but hand it over. Putting money on the table is considered as a bad omen in Russia. Russians are very superstitious.
When you visit a girl in her apartment it has two big advantages: 1) There will be no hassle with the militsia at all because you travel alone. You will be just one of the millions of anonymous commuters who use public transport every day. 2) You don’t need an apartment or a girl friendly hotel.
Most of the photos I saw at omen.ru and in the magazines are correct, so you can see (more or less) what you get. Some girls look better in reality, some worse. Pay attention to their height/weight ratio because voluptuous girls only show their best parts (eyes, face, shoulders, breasts etc.). Photos that look too good to be true are generally too good to be true. I saw one or two photos of Moscow girls in the St. Pete magazines, so some “pollution” is certainly present. Some girls are heavily photoshopped.
In the rare case that something happens to you and you have to report to the militsia, ask for special assistance for foreigners. You cannot reach this assistance directly, but the ordinary militsia should call this number: 278 30 14. When available, this special assistance also provides an English speaking translator.
Do not waste your time with talking with the dyevs when you have booked p4p for a limited amount of time like 1-3 hours. You will find yourself talking to her half of your paid time, though it can be interesting sometimes...
I preferred 2 girls for 2-3 hours instead of one for the whole night because the sex vocabulary of most girls will be exhausted after a few hours anyway. After that, it is only repetition. When you take two different girls for 2-3 hours per girl, price & duration will be about the same but the fun will be double.
Don't ask the girls "may I do this or that with you". They will always say no because it is not common for a man to ask for permission. Just do it and they will say you anyway when they don't like it. Some girls persisted not to have anal when I asked them though they explicitly listed it in their advertisement. The best way to avoid this is to agree it by phone before you visit them.
Some girls want you to take a shower before having sex. Take any valuables with you when you cannot lock them away. Don’t leave them in your coat. Girls like Irena will check your pockets while you are showering. Check your belongings before you leave the girl or the girl leaves you. It doesn’t happen often, but it saves you a lot of wasted time when you can avoid that they steal your phone, credit card or passport.
From some girls I heard stories of drunken foreigners that entered the apartments escorted by a male Russian translator/friend. They hate those men and it ruins pleasure in their work.
It will be difficult to get a girl into your apartment after 21:00. Eventually you will succeed but you might have to call up to 10 girls or more to find one (plus 500 rubles extra for a taxi).
Buy a Russian prepaid GSM SIM card as soon as possible or you’ll be surprised what the Russians will charge you for their network roaming services. There are dozens of phone shops along Nevski Prospect and its side streets. If you are lucky, you meet an English speaking sales person. Be aware that when you buy a Russian prepaid SIM card, you need to show your passport, visa and registration.
Get at least one Russian girlfriend, not necessarily for sex. She will show you places and (underground) clubs you never find on your own. You can use this information on your next visits, or even during your current visit.
Given that a monthly wage for a teacher in St. Pete is about 3000 rubles, I think that 2500 rubles for just two hours of sex work is a lot of money in Russia. It would be comparable to a working girl in the USA asking for $ 1,000 per hour. There must be cheaper alternatives inside or outside St. Pete but I just haven’t found them yet. But then again, you might get what you pay for...
In general I paid about 1250 rubles per hours for the girls. When I add all the overhead costs (flight, hotels, apartments, transfers, visa etc.) and smear them out over all the girls, their price would be close to 2500 rubles per hour.
So, after 19 shots with 11 different girls in 7 days I went home. After the 10th girl, it felt a little bit like a rehearsal, though still exciting.
The end (for this moment).
PtG.
Here is an updated list of apartments from Omen.ru. All phone numbers are in the (812) area code and the prices listed are per hour. The first name listed for each apartment will do anal but don't be suprised if she plays ignorant. If you go to any of these apartments please let us know. Also, I can't find anything about my favorite apartment at 53 Nevsky ((812)972-2793), directly across from Cafe Magrib.
Leka,Masha,Anya,Sveta,Natasha 922-9778 $50
Angelina,Sveta,Tatyana,Kristina 948-5585 $70
Alisa, Camilla, Eva, Lana, Jasmin 974-4403 $65
Michelle, Ilona,Alisa,Iana, Tanya 115-9252 $75
Valeria, Arina, Tanya, Nastya, Yana 973-5978 $55
Alina,Julia,Veka,Svetlana, Alla, Diana 920-6750 $50
Zlata,Dasha, Svetlana, Lera 952-5449 $55
Erika,Tina,Luda,Frida,Kamilla 974-6898 $50
Olga, Taya,Sima,Vika,Elena,Lolina 528-1848 $50
Thanks for the price update!
After and absence of nearly a year I am headed back to St Pete for a week for the 4th of July. I am going to be seeing my ex from a two year relationship when I was living in SPB, but only for a couple of days. Anyone in town want to hang out anytime that week. Is Leo still "managing" Magrib? Are there still good pickings professionally there? Let me know via reply to this post or via PM and I am good for buying a round and hunting for dyevs.
Browsing through Omen.ru recently I found that some of the girls I met last year are still (or again) active.
For the following girls I can personally guarantee because they were fucked and approved by Peter the Great.
For all of the girls hold: if you don’t speak Russian, you won’t be able to communicate with them, let be visit them (see my earlier posts). They might have learned to speak a few words of English during the last half year however.
Here’s the Uzbek girl I told about. She looks great on the photos and fucks even better once warmed up.
[url]http://dating.omen.ru/love.pl?f=photo&f_id=521578&num=3[/url]
[url]http://dating.omen.ru/love.pl?f=photo&f_id=521578&num=2[/url]
And her bio is here:
[url]http://dating.omen.ru/love.pl?f=ushow&f_id=513131[/url]
This one looks a little weird on the photo, but in reality she looks better. Great tits.
[url]http://dating.omen.ru/love.pl?f=photo&f_id=513131&num=1[/url]
And this is her bio.
[url]http://dating.omen.ru/love.pl?f=ushow&f_id=513131[/url]
Have fun!
[QUOTE=Peter The Great I]
Here’s the Uzbek girl I told about. She looks great on the photos and fucks even better once warmed up.
[url]http://dating.omen.ru/love.pl?f=photo&f_id=521578&num=3[/url]
[url]http://dating.omen.ru/love.pl?f=photo&f_id=521578&num=2[/url]
And her bio is here:
[url]http://dating.omen.ru/love.pl?f=ushow&f_id=513131[/url]
[/QUOTE]Is it true that she does anal? That is suprising. Are prices accurate from omen.ru, $60 an hour $270 per night? Thanks for the info.
Rus Guy,
I think she does, but you have to agree when you call her. When I arrived and asked without prior agreement, she said she didn't.
Prices on Omen.ru are correct. Sometimes they ask more when hear you're from the west, but not excessively.
PtG.
Anal prices usually higher than mentioned on omen.ru. So you have to call and to agree everithing first.
Still working on planning my triumphant return to the motherland and I was wondering if anyone has any info on Tutsy Bar, the strip club / brothel on the river across from Lt Schmidt bridge? I have had some good experiences with girls at the boat, but it is hit and miss as to who is working just dancing and who will "go uptairs." Still looking for anyone in town July 3-9 that might want to hook up for a beer and some hunting.
Anyone in SPB from 26th of July to 2nd of August?
[QUOTE=Russia Guy]Still working on planning my triumphant return to the motherland and I was wondering if anyone has any info on Tutsy Bar, the strip club / brothel on the river across from Lt Schmidt bridge? I have had some good experiences with girls at the boat, but it is hit and miss as to who is working just dancing and who will "go uptairs." Still looking for anyone in town July 3-9 that might want to hook up for a beer and some hunting.[/QUOTE]
Sure, it still working, but prices there are crazy comparing with standard girl price..
[QUOTE=Jwheels]Anyone in SPB from 26th of July to 2nd of August?[/QUOTE]
Me, since I live here :)
One more question in prep for my trip. Are most girls still quoting prices in Euros or are dollar rates back in fashion? Thanks for the info. Andy, do you want to get a beer when I am in town?
Next week I will be in town for a few days, arriving the 21th. PM if you would like to go mongering together.
Someone has visited the salons from [url]www.photomodeli.ru[/url] ? They also have a magazine : 1001 красавица.
8 salons : Kamennoostrovskiy 24 / Marata 22 / Nevskiy 63 / Nevskiy 95 / Nevskiy 162 / Gorokhovaya 46 / Zhukovskogo 21 / Bolshoy 104. Reasonnable prices : 2 hours = 2000-3500 RBL / 58-102 euros. Some hot looking dyevs. Are the photos real ? Do they speak english ?
Here I found only a review about Kamennoostrovskiy salon on 09-22-04 (positive review). Someone can confirm or try the other salons before I check myself ? :)
What are the best bars / nights clubs where you can pick up pros / semi-pros? Magrib? Tribunal?
I may be making my first trip to Russia. It will be for business, but I would like to find some good mongering if possible. I have been to Finland and met some nice Russian girls in Helsinki's Mikado cub. I have read about 5 pages in this forum and it seems the p4p options are not too good for non-russian speakers in SPG. I am familiar with the omen.ru girls but as most have said the language is an issue. Then I'm reading that the hotels are not girl friendly. And the freelancers are a risk because of the high drug and disease rate. I'm getting a bit depressed.
So I'm thinking, well what about the spas? Then I read about the spa Aelita and read that its just a rub and tug?
Short question, are there full service spas and are they a good option? I am pretty choosy about looks and pretty spoiled, just having visited Brasil where the girls are gorgeous and friendly.
Should I just keep reading further and further back to find information about spas or is that just a rub and tug option?
Dant75,
I was with a friend this May in St. Peter for few days, and we picked-up a taxi driver, who recomended this salon-chain as the best price/performance in town. He took us thru some of those salons and we picked girls twice from there (total of 4 girls).
In general I can say the girls are very similar to the photos and the overall terms and service are good.
I would advise to call first each salon to see which girls are actually on duty and then also visit there and pick the girls on-site.
Most of them don't speak English, but some do a little.
Hope that helps,
Barmer.
Barmer67,
Would be great if you could provide price info for reference, for example in house (in the salon) vs. take home/outcall.
A taxi driver in front of Magrib took me to a salon and I paid approx $100 in rubles for a couple of hours with a take home babe (middle of the night, no idea which one or where)... She was top at least body-wise, absolutely top. Face unremarkable but not bad. In house was something like $50/hour, about half-price.
Any info you could provide would be great, thanks!
Rovnak:
As for Aelita, I was there about a year ago and after looking at the catalog of girls, about 8 of them, I specifically asked the receptionist if sex was possible and she said no, upon which I asked again and after receiving a polite yet very clear "no" I decided to go somewhere else. Not sure what negotiation behind closed doors or a more tactful approach might yield, but I wasnt willing to take that chance. If anyone else experienced otherwise, we'd all be interested to know as Aelita is one of the more prominent spas on Nevsky. However many saunas, salons and spas per se do offer sex.
Doc,
I have used salons from this site many times with overall good results.
[url]http://amurspb.ru/rus/intim/index.php?action=org[/url]
Prices run $47-53 per hour depending on the exchange rate, usually very good quality. Home delivery is available. It's more difficult for me, with your Russian skills a snap.
There is a salon on the Old Nevsky, I think the address was 168 that had over 20 girls at two in the morning, 5 0r 6 were stunners. We found it thru a cabbie outside of Marstall's one night.
Good hunting
Portnoy
Portnoy,
Thanks for the info and link.
The cabbies in St.Pete seem to be a pretty decent choice for a late night selection tour guide. It isnt the cheapest option... the taxi itself will probably cost $15-20 and the girl (take home) about $100, but selection can be good... and $100-150 is definitely an ok price if the girl is nice... especially if striking out at Marstalls with its paltry selection or Magrib, where selection varies from fan-fucking-tastic to non-existent... and minimum price is $100 anyway.
In any case, your 3-4am take home options are pretty limited in St.Pete if you strike out at the well-known pick up joints and dont want a hotel girl.
When arriving get the saint petersburg times its an english newspaper, in the back check out the personal ads cant remember the names but there are 2 or 3 escort services, call them and they send a driver to you with a catalogue with all the girls in and there stats etc, they normally ask for 100$ for the hour but you can always chip them down, a lot of the girls are students supplementing there studies etc, some are stunners, and after you finish the session they will often go with you for a meal and a night out followed by a free shag later, then of course you get her private mobile number and call her again, thus cutting out the agent makes it cheaper for you and the girl also gets a bit more, there is also a paper called the "neva news" there are or used to be a lot of freelance girls in there again its written in english and its a good source, you can meet some nice girls who are not hardened from working in clubs or brothels who are on the clock , find the freelance ones if poss.
Hope this helps.
[QUOTE=Doctor_Skank]Barmer67,
Rovnak:
As for Aelita, I was there about a year ago and after looking at the catalog of girls, about 8 of them, I specifically asked the receptionist if sex was possible and she said no, upon which I asked again and after receiving a polite yet very clear "no" I decided to go somewhere else. Not sure what negotiation behind closed doors or a more tactful approach might yield, but I wasnt willing to take that chance. If anyone else experienced otherwise, we'd all be interested to know as Aelita is one of the more prominent spas on Nevsky. However many saunas, salons and spas per se do offer sex.[/QUOTE]I visited Aleita in 2003 with a friend of mine, a doctor, that came to visit. He is 15 years my senior (I was 30) and our experiences varied considerably. He said that he paid for and received a good massage with a hand job completion. I had a not so great massage but she finished me off with a passibly decent CBJ. I think that the official line is no sex, but I think that for extra cash I might have been able to get FS. He was paying and I would rather spend my $$ on other options so I guess that I will never know. As with many places YMMV depending on you, the girl and the amount of $$.
I am still looking for anyone in town that would like to get a drink and pick up dyevs July 3-9. Let me know. Hope the above helps.
Is this hotel girl friendly or do they have their own hotel girls? People here don't like hotel girls. Is it the price that puts people off or do the hotel girls only serve their own hotels?
Hi guys, thanks for the informations on salons.
I will visit St Petersburg in late august with a buddy. Any nice and honest fellow monger welcome. You can read my report in Kiev (06-05-05) if you want to know how I behave. Is there a girls shortage in summer ? On late august (08-22 for example), do they already come back from holidays ?
No security issue when you visit an salon from [url]http://www.photomodeli.ru[/url] or [url]http://amurspb.ru[/url]?
What about the rating (ie red hearts) on [url]http://amurspb.ru/rus/intim/index.php?action=girls&menu=top20[/url] and [url]http://prolove.spb.ru[/url] ? Are they reviewed by customers and can you trust it ?
What are the best bar / night club to pick up pros / semi-pros ? Magrib, Marstall, Tribunal? Who are the most honest and reliable appartment renters?
Thanks
Has anyone used this site? It is a Finnish site that one of my Finn friends swears by for both Tallinn and SPB. About 50% of the ads look to be "realnia photographia" and supposedly all the girls speak English (I almost believe that one). Be back in Petersburg in a week. Keep the city warm for me.
Diceman, thanks for the tip. Do you have any recall of the names of these agencies which you recommend? I have seldom used agencies unless they are reputable, and I would imagine that in SP there are many non-reputable agencies. I don't want one of these situations that I have read about here, where some mafia thug accompanies the girl to your room and demands the money.
Hi guys,
I am visiting Moscow and SP IN LATE July, anyone knows about the "dunes" nude beach or "Dyuny" in Russian language?
Dante 75,
Apartments try these:
[email]dijayru@yandex.ru[/email] -Owned by Ian, has apartments around the embankment with good pricing and also a small hotel. I do not have the web site handy.
[url]http://www.nevsky88.com/[/url] Very nice and more expensive with a good location.
You have the usual suspects for bars with working girls. The Tribnal in my experience was not that great. The Red Lion next door on Tuesday's is awesome for ladies night. Try the brewery Tinkoff for dinner and you will see pairs of girls that may be available for take home. Just talk and ask.
On amur.spb.ru have used Fantasy and sister salon Massage+ both good. The Domino set of salons a different color depending on location. Had great qualitiy from these for home delivery. Biggest challenge was finding a girl who spoke english. Just have to keep calling then describe exactly what you are looking for.
Omen.ru is not bad either, same language challenges. I got a blonde pair of cousins 20 & 21 year old with lesbian from here. Fun
Happy hunting
Portnoy
Guys, what is the protocol in salons?
I have been to all sorts of salon, massage parlor and clinicas elsewehre. Every country has different protocols. Sometimes the menu lists every type of sex possible for a fixed price that you pay at the desk. Some places pretend to be ordinary non-sexual massage parlors and you have to negotiate with whispers in the room with the girl. Those are the two extremes. What is the situation in St. P?
Dant7 wrote:
Reasonnable prices : 2 hours = 2000-3500 RBL / 58-102 euros.
What exactly does that mean? Who do you pay and when do you pay them?
Also, how do you "pick" a girl? Do they let you look at a book? Do they introduce the available girls one by one?
Also, how do you split your time? Are you supposed to sauna or anything first, or do you have the choice of just showering and getting right to sex? Do the girls make pretenses to massage or just get to the real action?
I can find all of these answers and much more on the Brazilian forum but this forum doesn't seem to have much nuts and bolts information. Or else I am not looking in the right place.
If this information is posted already, I apologize, but please direct me where to find it.
ok, i've read from page 28 to page 14, still haven't found answer to my question below. Will keep reading.
But I have learned that perhaps I was wrong to say "Salon". Maybe I should have said "Sauna".
Is Salon just an apartment with p4p while Sauna is the russian version of massage parlor, clinica?
R... since you're obviously hot for the answer to your question and it's not Spb specific, here you go...
Salon and apartment are used interchangably for a small brothel. Russia doesn't have the large brothels that you see in some countries, but rather it has many apartments where 2-6 girls work. Typically, you will find these places on the internet. They advertise on many sites and most times, if you can't read Russki, you may think you are calling an independent girl and you are actually calling an apartment/salon who happen to have 2-12 girls in their stable who will often times work in the apt for incalls or will sometimes do outcalls.
The sauna/banya is a place in Russia where you may or may not be allowed to take a girl and they may or may not supply girls for you. Typically you can get a massage, but the masseuse may look like her day job is welding on a pipeline... with apolgies to the welder's union!
There are Russian banyas and Finnish banyas... the Russians take their banya/sauna experience very serious and unless you have someone who knows the scoop at a particular banya, you may be dissapointed because the experience is not one of mongering, but rather one of sweat and pain, among other things.
I hope this summarizes the situation for you... Maybe someone who is really into the banya/sauna scene can give you more info if you want it.
Thanks CA,
Yeah, I was just looking for daytime options. After reading the entire board, I guess I know what to expect now. Looks like spas are just a massage and HJ option.
Sounds like Magrib is the consensus place to go for non-Russian speaking mongers, after midnight.
I did see two mentions of a mysterious place called Absinthe, one suggested it was a private club, so I guess that makes it off limits to visitors.
I'm sure I will find out more once on the ground. Thanks for the help.
Hey, Fellow Mongers
I’m back in STP for a season.
I never like going to the salons/saunas/apartments/escorts. I just prefer the disco environment. Although you can get better value for the buck there for the short term pleasure. I never waste my time with Hotel girls either.
I will try not to repeat to much what is already posted.
I usually start the night off and maybe end the night at Tribunal. Although it’s not as good as it was in the old days, it’s still a fun bar to go to. Red Lion next door is ok too. From my experiences less English speaking girls can be had there as freebies, more than Tribunal. But Tribunal is an institution.
I do like to go to Plaza Disco, but I will usually leave before the bridges go up, so I’m not stuck on the wrong side of the river. On the wrong side of the river, there is Club Ostrov too, very expensive cover, and drinks, but good place for freebies, as well as P4P. But for going for freebies I rank Plaza disco as the best in STP. You have to try it out once on a Friday, or Saturday.
Also for freebies, you can try luckylovers.net. Really easy to score off this website.
Marstalls
Never go there anymore, the girls there are always the same, again it was better in the old days.
Magribs
Pound for pound my favorite place to go, freebie action, along with some hot P4P action. The pros will start off always at $200.00, but you can laugh in their face, and you can get them down a lot lower. Especially towards the end of the night.
Metro
In the old days a good place to go, but I do not think much of it now. Although last time I went there was over a year ago. The girls are younger, and hardly ever speak English, but it’s a place to try.
Rossi
I will try it out this weekend. Most regular girls I talk to seem all to say it’s their favorite, so wanted to check it out.
For all the STP veterans, anybody remember a disco called the Candyman? Was wondering if it was still around or it’s got another name now? That place use to be great.
Happy Hunting!
Rovnak
I have done both in St Petes. Look for the rendezvous or Pahaeby mags at the newsstands for salons or call one of the many salons in [url]http://amurspb.ru/[/url]
For the salons it’s a good idea to call and see how many girls are working and let them know you are coming. Expect a fair amount of challenge finding the salon on your own. A cabbie is probably a good idea. Frequently there may only be 2-3 maybe more in the evening. I have seen as few as 2 and as many a 20. When you arrive they will bring in the girls and you choose which you want and pay for the time you want. No pretense here, you are there for sex.
Anything special you want just ask. I remember being with a friend around 2 in the morning at a salon with 20 girls and he immediately asks who does anal. Several blushed and giggled, a couple looked pissed and four raised their hands. Good girls.
A better option is to use the net for home delivery provided you are not in a hotel. Like ordering a pizza with no hassle or your being lost.
Tried the sauna option. As Ca Trav mention there are two types. Many saunas have no girl’s period; they are there for the serious business of sauna only. Ask when you call to check it out. You need to reserve for all types of sauna, as they are busy. The sauna ads you see that appear sexual will be. They will call a few girls and you pick. The quality I saw with the sauna girls was not great. I am sure it will vary from one to another.
You can also take a salon girl to a sauna and have them set everything up. You would need to do this with a little advance notice. Then you can get the quality you desire.
I found that for me the girls did not work well with the sauna concept. They don’t want to get sweaty so they spend little or no time in the sauna. You have to worry about your valuables so you should always be near the girls. One interferes with the other. I prefer to go to a legitimate sauna and enjoy with no girls. Personal choice.
No matter what you will have a great time trying the various options St Petes offer.
Have fun
Portnoy
Octatron,
Rossi's rocks most nights with good entertainment. Great female to male ratio” with a lot of good looking women. Try Thursday night for ladies night. The ratio is almost obscene 10+ to 1.
Have fun,
Portnoy
Ok, I know that the first reply is going to be, "skip the escorts and just go to Magrib". That is probably what I will do.
Still, I enjoy looking at the escort sites to just get a sense of the possible talent.
Most of the SPb escort pix are not to my liking anyway. But I LOVE this pic. What is the probability that this is a real pic of the escort or just a bait and switch deal.
[url]http://www.sexbombzzz.ru/cgi-bin/catalog_frame.cgi?id=i252&foto=i252-1.jpg&table=catalog[/url]
Thank you Octatron. Very nice report. :)
Jesus! There are 50,000 Russian women registered with Lucky Lovers.net. Nice find. Sometimes the net is like a club. You have to find the website or club that these people are all attracted to for whatver god knows reason. Like all the Chinese chicks gravitating to Friends Finders.
[QUOTE=Rovnak]Thanks CA,
Yeah, I was just looking for daytime options. After reading the entire board, I guess I know what to expect now. Looks like spas are just a massage and HJ option.
Sounds like Magrib is the consensus place to go for non-Russian speaking mongers, after midnight.
I did see two mentions of a mysterious place called Absinthe, one suggested it was a private club, so I guess that makes it off limits to visitors.
I'm sure I will find out more once on the ground. Thanks for the help.[/QUOTE]Absenthe was a really interesting private "membership only" club that was all the rage 2 years ago. I was (and I guess still am) a member. It was kind of a Blade intro through a back alley into a meat locker basement where they actually lock you in the club as you enter (no fire marshall problems in Russia). The place used to be guido central but is dead now. Jakata picked up where Absenthe left off and then died, Jet Set moved in next and is on its last leg. Now the hot spot seems to be Dacha. I don't know why as it is about 3 square meters total with people spilling out into the street. Hot women that are all Prada clad (or at least the fake version). No P4p at any of these places unless your name is Vladimir any you have a penthouse and drive a hummer. Magrib is hands down the most friendly place and Leo the manager is a real pro. If you are having problems picking out the pros ask for Leo and have him point out the working girls. Have fun. I am back in SPB in 4 days!!!
luckylovers.net--don't bother spending money on this site. I looked at all 2000 paqges. The first 5 pages you will find 4 hot women. The rest are all dogs.
Russia Guy thanks for the advice about Leo the manager. I was there last nite about 1AM and I had trouble picking out the working girls from the regulars. I saw so many girls with their boyfriends I thought I was in the wrong place. One or two girls gave me "the look" but I wasn't interested in them. I may follow your advice since it seems the girls at Magrib aren't as open about soliciting. I am relatively certain that last night the percentage of pros and semi-pros was extremely low.
ok, I'm going to learn Russian just so I can call this girl. What do you think, real or not real?
Veronika
[url]http://dating.omen.ru/love.pl?f=ushow&f_id=545402[/url]
She is definitely several notches above the rest of the omen listings, and she is charging a lot. 3000 hr and 15000 night. How outrageous is that? But if she really looks like those pix I'd be interested in an hour. Would you guys reprimand me for that?
Well all, I am sitting in Terminal 3 of JFK airport on my way to SPB as I type. If anyone wants to hit Magrib mid week or check out the scene anywhere else I only have a few nights pre-engaged. Drop me a PM or post if anyone wants to team up. I hit the ground in 12 hours.
Cheers
[QUOTE=Rovnak]ok, I'm going to learn Russian just so I can call this girl. What do you think, real or not real?
Veronika
[url]http://dating.omen.ru/love.pl?f=ushow&f_id=545402[/url]
She is definitely several notches above the rest of the omen listings, and she is charging a lot. 3000 hr and 15000 night. How outrageous is that? But if she really looks like those pix I'd be interested in an hour. Would you guys reprimand me for that?[/QUOTE]Fake of course. This is hungarian pornstar Vera :
[url]http://www.eurobabeindex.com/sbandoindex/vera.html[/url]
Omen = hit and miss ?
Maybe this site is common knowledge here, but I don't recall seeing it discussed.
It seems a lot more user friendly than omen. The detail pages are particularly good as they show how many other postings use the same telephone number, there are comments from readers, and there is a location map showing where the girl is relative to Spb.
[url]http://www.rusdosug.com/search.php?city=%D1%E0%ED%EA%F2-%CF%E5%F2%E5%F0%E1%F3%F0%E3&x=10&y=6[/url]
And this site: Best Ladies has a Languages category so you can see which ones speak English ( Английский )
[url]http://www.bestladies.ru/forms/search.php?action=search&city=1&type=0&age_low=1&age_high=11111&height_low=1&height_high=111111&weight_low=1&weight_high=111111&breast_size=0&price_low=1&price_high=11111[/url]
17 of the 36 list English.
This is my first trip to STP and Tribunal doesn't get a lot of positive reviews here. But the place rocked last night. A dark haired dyev named Maya latched on to me but I decided to hold out for a blonde. I finally hooked up with a good looking blonde, Inna. She looked a little hardened but did everything she could to ensure I had a pleasant experience and she was sweet as hell. And I did have a pleasant experience.
Tonite I plan to see Marstall's and go back to Magrib where I didn't have success a few nights ago. I didn't seem to see any p4p girls at Magrib. They were far more open at Tribunal. All the girls at Tribunal not dancing seemed available. I don't know about the Tribunal dancers.
Will post some pics soon. Russia Guy, would love to hook up at Magrib but I'm going to Helsinki tomorrow.
I might add the cost to get into Tribunal this weekend was 200 roubles. If two tourists enter together (I was alone) admission is free. I read here you should bring a copy of your passport to save the entrance fee but I did not confirm that. Inna started negotiations at $200US but quickly lowered to $150. That's what I paid and I didn't try to get her to lower her price since I was "ready" to go.
Jimbehr2000,
My experience at the Magrib is that majority of the girls are working. You can discount groups of girls with guys, but a very high percentage of the rest are either semi or pro. They are not quite as blatant as Marstall’s or the Tribnal. Talk with them, if money is an issue it will come up quickly. If not perhaps you will score a freebie.
There is always a fair chance of picking a freebie out of Marstal’s or the Magrib. Another good option for freebies is Mollie’s Irish Pub, frequently loaded with potential freebies, not a working girl in sight. Evenings are best Thurs. thru Sat, Mollies is located down 1.5 blocks the street that corners the MacDonald’s on the Nevsky close to the Magrib. I heard they have opened a second location as well.
Happy hunting,
Portnoy
Nothing is common knowledge. Thanks for the info. This is news to me.
[QUOTE=Rovnak]Maybe this site is common knowledge here, but I don't recall seeing it discussed.
It seems a lot more user friendly than omen. The detail pages are particularly good as they show how many other postings use the same telephone number, there are comments from readers, and there is a location map showing where the girl is relative to Spb.
[url]http://www.rusdosug.com/search.php?city=%D1%E0%ED%EA%F2-%CF%E5%F2%E5%F0%E1%F3%F0%E3&x=10&y=6[/url][/QUOTE]
This info helps because the prices are low but my system crashes evey time i click on some of these links. Are any of these links or sites a virus or trojan? Thanks.
[QUOTE=Rovnak]And this site: Best Ladies has a Languages category so you can see which ones speak English ( Английский )
[url]http://www.bestladies.ru/forms/search.php?action=search&city=1&type=0&age_low=1&age_high=11111&height_low=1&height_high=111111&weight_low=1&weight_high=111111&breast_size=0&price_low=1&price_high=11111[/url]
17 of the 36 list English.[/QUOTE]
I believe it was ACross who posted several lists of brothels from omen.ru.
Here is one that was not on his list that has several attractive girls at reasonable rates 1700/hr.
http://an.aport.ru/scripts/template.dll?Rt=2&Tn=22&ini=20.ini&Base=love&That=love&sf=timestamp&sort=8&fld_Phone=8(812)9706058
From that group, Marina looks particularly adorable. That picture is at least a year old, though, as I recall seeing it last year when I was perusing omen.
I tried calling that place from the US yesterday just to see if the phone person spoke Angliski. Unfortunately, nyet. So all I know at this point is that they are located near the Puskinskaya metro. If anyone with better Russian skills wants to report on their exact location and hours that would be great.
Question on metro stations. I was trying to cross reference a metro stop and I was having difficulty locating the station called "Новочеркасская" which translates to Novocherkasskaya.
After correlating several maps, I finally determined that on SOME maps, including the one I had searched exhaustively, this station is actually listed as KpacНовочеркасская - Krasnovocherkasskaya.
Is this a common issue with metro station names? Or is this the exception?
The station is definitely simply Novocherkasskaya - New Circassian.
[url]http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&lr=&q=petersburg+metro&btnG=Search[/url]
I can't find a single map that would have a 'Kras' in front of that station name. That's not even Russian. I can't find any street or landmark nearby that'd have 'Kras' in it and could have merged with the caption, so it's most likely a typo on your map. I suggest buying a new one.
yeah, its strange, must be a typo, though its consistent on both the metro insert and the main map itself. Actually, i mistyped as well. On this map it is spelled Krasnogvardeyskaya. Well the good news is that this is an anomaly. Its tough enough dealing with cyrilic without allowing for > 1 name per station.
The map is the laminated Berndston City Streets series map for St. P. Otherwise its a good map
Not that it really matters, but in Moscow there are several, at least three metro stops that begin with "Kras"... including a Krasnogvardeyskaya stop. Of course, many of the Spb metro stops have the same names as the Moscow metro stops, but is it possible that a Moscow posting got mixed up with the Spb posting? Is the phone number a Spb number?
The "Новочеркасская" stop is very easy to find on the Spb metro stops...
Keep in mind that there is no really pattern to the "transliteration" of the Cyrillic alphabet and you will often see different spellings for the same Cyrillic name.
Aha! There's your answer.
[url]http://podzemka.spb.ru/history/1/[/url]
The metro station was called Krasnogvardeiskaya until 1992, and then was renamed to Novocherkasskaya. Your map is simply really, really obsolete. Do buy a new one.
P.S. I didn't mean that anything starting with 'Kras' is not Russian. I meant that 'kras-novo-cherkasskaya' is not Russian. For the word starting with 'kras-' to mean anything in Russian, we'd need the second syllable as well, which is missing there. Kras is a first syllable of a common two-syllable root that means 'Red', as in case of the Krasnogvardeiskaya - Red Guards; or 'beautiful' as in 'krasavitza' (which is etymologically interesting because in old Russian 'red' and 'beautiful' meant the same thing). Anyway this doesn't really matter.
classic example of B&S photos.
This lady uses two diff numbers, one for the B&S photos and the other for the real photos.
Here are the B&S
[url]http://www.ston.ru/list.php?foto=p13063_2.jpg&g=%C8%ED%E4%E8%E2%E8%E4%F3%E0%EB%EA%E8&link=13063[/url]
Here is the real
[url]http://alinaescort.boom.ru/photoalbum.html[/url]
Hmm, which do I prefer?
FYI - the aptly named putana web site allows visitors to post comments. There you will find quite a few of the more attractive girls annotated with comments saying "leftist photo", which I assume means false. There are a few exceptions where the comments say "true photos".
[url]http://www.putana.nu/ancets.php?city=%D1.-%CF%E5%F2%E5%F0%E1%F3%F0%E3[/url]
I return to the USA worn out from more than just my travels. One week in Russia is just never enough.
The first few days in SPB I spent with my ex-girlfriend. She decided that she wanted me back (suprise) and tried everything in the book to prove it :P After 3 days with her I struck out into Petersburg to find out what was up.
Thursday night I returned to Magrib for the infamous expat night. I went in early, around 23:00 so that I could get my bearings, and I ran into a girl that I knew from 2 years ago that occasionally works at Magrib. Olga is 5'2 about 105 lbs, blonde and a 9.5 in my book. She remembered me from before and we talked for a few moments. She said that she had taken another job with a local newspaper for a while but she quit and that was why she was out. I asked her how much and she thought for a moment and said $150. I figured that because I knew her I wouldn't haggle and off we went.
The apartment that I rented in SPB had a nice jacuzzi tub, and this was definately a hit. Olga undressed and I had forgotten that she has this inverted nipple thing going on where they push in until you suck on them and then they stand at attention. We got in the jacuzzi and she started a very nice BBBJ as I backed her pussy up to one of the jets. She didn't last long before we headed to bed. Good missionary finished up doggy. I broke out the champaign and popped a V. Did it again before falling asleep. Woke up with wood and slipped on a condom and did her from the side. Back to sleep and in the morning she gave me a beautiful BBBJ, CIM and a swallow for good lock before she left.
Friday night I went out to Tutsy. As I went in there were two asian guys getting kicked out and an attractive blonde was right in the middle of it. As I went in she grabbed onto me as a shield and kept saying that I was, "Very beautiful boy." Her name was also Olga and she was 5'7, 130 bad blonde dye job, but had a kind of trailer trash do me quality to her. I know that Tutsy is expensive so around 3 after blowing about 1000rr on lap dances I asked Olga if she wanted to go home with me. She said that she was off at 6. 6 rolled around and I waited outside. There were 2 Russian guido types in their BMW 7 series waiting as well so the militsia did not bother us as we waited. She came out and back to the apartment we went.
Olga ended up being a wild one. She has a tounge stud that she kept playing with all night. One vitamin V, 3 times with Olga including once bent over the back of the leather lounge chair. Great BBBJ. She really enjoyed anal fingering but would not let me slip it that way. In the morning she gave me her email and walked out with me. At the corner she kissed me and asked me to email her when I come back to Russia, and walked away without asking for a penny!!! God bless this country. I am already saving up for my return.
Hi RG!
Great story... the bad dye job trailer court trash blonde is one of nature's greatest creations, appreciated worldwide!
As for Tutsy, where is it... what is it? Strip club? details would be great... thanks!
Tutsy Bar is a strip club on a boat over on Vaselivesky Ostrov. From the center take a taxi over Lt Schmidt bridge and take a left. About 1 km down on the left you will see a boat covered in Christmas lights with "Tootsy" in big red letters. The entry is 400rr and drinks are reasonably priced. The strippers go full nude and circulate for nice in booth table dances for 50rr tips. If you see something that you like there are rooms upstairs that go full service 1hr for 4500rr. I know that it is a little pricey but you can see / feel the prospect during a dance and find one that is worth it. On Friday nights they have an awesome floor show with 8-10 girls and a midget with a strap on. My favorite strip club in SPB, full of locals and much less expensive than Golden Dolls or Maximus. Have fun.
[QUOTE=Rovnak]classic example of B&S photos.
This lady uses two diff numbers, one for the B&S photos and the other for the real photos.
Here are the B&S
[url]http://www.ston.ru/list.php?foto=p13063_2.jpg&g=%C8%ED%E4%E8%E2%E8%E4%F3%E0%EB%EA%E8&link=13063[/url]
Here is the real
[url]http://alinaescort.boom.ru/photoalbum.html[/url]
Hmm, which do I prefer?
That's fucked up, given the short stay for most travellers. And this dog charges $100 an hour.
I'm going to be in St. Petersberg the first 2 weeks of Sept. I'm a newbie to the P4P scene there and want to know if any fellow mongers want to hang out for a beer or two. Also, I'm staying at the Radisson on Nevsky. Anyone had problems bringing in women past security? What is their policy on having female visitors?
[QUOTE=Pacific1]Also, I'm staying at the Radisson on Nevsky. Anyone had problems bringing in women past security? What is their policy on having female visitors?[/QUOTE]The Radisson is not bad for visitors as long as you don't come in late or loudly. When you book your room book a double and ask for 2 room keys on check in. This does make a difference at times. This is a good central location directly across from Magrib. The only downside is that you have to go directly past reception to get to the elevators. Stop by the bar for a bit with female company if it is still open before bolting for the room and the desk is a bit more forgiving.
Good luck.
I stayed there a few weeks ago and had no problem with security. Walked right past them with a girl without a problem. The girl I took from Tribunal expressed concern she would have to pay security a tip (up to $50) on her way out. When we finished, I escorted her outside to a taxi. She was very grateful and security didn't hit her up for a bribe. I have found security in most countries doesn't hassle the girls if the guest is escorting them. It has worked for me far more often than not. I'll post a pic of the Tribunal girl tonite. She wasn't beautiful but she was very sweet and a very dedicated worker.
Once security sees you are a player they may even try to send you a girl. PM me if you want some details.
[QUOTE=Rovnak]And this site: Best Ladies has a Languages category so you can see which ones speak English ( Английский )
[url]http://www.bestladies.ru/forms/search.php?action=search&city=1&type=0&age_low=1&age_high=11111&height_low=1&height_high=111111&weight_low=1&weight_high=111111&breast_size=0&price_low=1&price_high=11111[/url]
17 of the 36 list English.[/QUOTE]I just had a look at this site and immediately saw a familiar face.
[url]http://www.bestladies.ru/forms/shablon2.php?id=145[/url]
She is not a Russian hooker!
This is her site [url]http://www.katesplayground.com/[/url]
Site seems bogus. Unless American porn stars have decided to be escorts in Russia. Some of those pictures still have the porn company watermarks.
[QUOTE=Rovnak]And this site: Best Ladies has a Languages category so you can see which ones speak English ( Английский )
[url]http://www.bestladies.ru/forms/search.php?action=search&city=1&type=0&age_low=1&age_high=11111&height_low=1&height_high=111111&weight_low=1&weight_high=111111&breast_size=0&price_low=1&price_high=11111[/url]
17 of the 36 list English.[/QUOTE]
Unless you just like to drink of go there to watch the locals or to see the shows, there is no reason to go to any of the clubs (discos) to find providers. Also skip the expensive Western style hotels. Stay in a Russian hotel like Octoberski (On Ligofski (?) Prospect). Check out a Lonely planet guide book for a list of Russian hotels. You will save a bundle. There is either a small bar or small resturant on each floor. Providers congregate in one or two of these and await your selection. They accompany you to your room. This system eliminates any need for transport or doorman issues. There is at least a 50% turnover each day so you see a lot of new faces. I never paid more than $50 and got a full hour of service. Most begin and end with a shower. You are welcome to participate in this clensing ritual.
Have fun
i can add a bit to vincevoyeur's great report.
i saw ksyusha (pronounced shoosha ) from photomodeli
[url]http://www.photomodeli.ru/ankette.php?id=147&phpsessid=985b33990ec648cf41e4a9d192ed475d[/url]
actually, i did not know it was photomodeli. stupid me, my first night in spb i was walking past goldengirls and doorman told me i could take a look for free. of course, i wasn't going to stay, so i looked around and walked outside. there was an azerbaijaini hanging outside with car who asked what i wanted. i said "woman of course". he said he knew great place and would negotiate for girl to come back to my apartment. i knew i would have to give him a commission but what the hell, i have to learn the ropes and he might know a great unlisted house. so i get in his car and off we go, he's on the phone, speed dialing houses, saying "i have a very picky american, do you have any beauties". interestingly, one house actually told him, "no beauties tonight". so we arrived at nevsky 63 and the madam meets us outside. we go up to apartment. line up forms of about 8 girls. shusha was the best for my eye. she was about 5 pounds more than she shows in the pix. she accompanied me back to hotel for a wonderful two hour session. she pulled out copy of photomodeli magazine and showed me her pic.
since we did not arrive until 3 am, she stayed until after 5 and split which was fine with me as i had plans the next day. she had nice dimples in her ass and was excellent in bed. recommended.
Guys, I will be in SPb for several months. Will be staying in apartment with satellite TV. I can negotiate for special channels, but I am unable to find any information on whether the satellite TV providers in SPb offer such channels. Does anyone have the lowdown? We can continue this in private message format.
PS - since I will be in SPb for several months any board members who wish to compare notes over a beer feel free to private message me.
Adding to friendly hotel list. I stayed at the Renaissance, near Isaac's place, and brought back a woman from Tribunal one night. I did not see any door security as we entered at about 2 am so I am not sure if they are friendly or I just got lucky.
What is the deal with Tribunal dancers? Has anyone ever succeeded in seeing one outside of the club? I know they are off limits to customers while in the club.
I was smitten with one of them in particular and was able to tell her so in the back area of the club outside the scrutiny of the management. She would not give me her number but asked for mine. She did not call but she might have been confused by the country code since I did not have a local number. I am thinking of going back and will try to pursuade her to follow up, but I am wondering if this is just pie in the sky.
Vincevoyeur,
I honestly wasn't able to understand most of your report. Anyway, the rating with the link and name is enough :) Thanks.
What exactly do you mean by "living room"? Do the locations mentions in Photomodeli have their own rooms where you can hang out for a day? Or do you have to take the woman back to your hotel/apt?
easy Vince. I am talking about one dancer in particular, and she is by no means fat.
However, I agree with you re photomodeli, they seem reliable and have acurate (though possibly dated) photos, which is more than one can say for most of the other apartments on omen and putana and other web sites.
Have been reviewing the Forum but could not find any info for hotel near the LENEXPO pavilion. This will be my first trip to Russia so any recommendations of safe "girl friendly' hotel would be appreciated near some action.
I like to bring back talent to my room for some LT action.
Do not speak any Russian. I guess I have to get a map and find Nevsky, Magrib, Metro and Marstall mentioned in the forrum. If anyone planning a trip to the Far East, I can help.
Firebird
I have been to Saint Petersburg. About our broken english : we are not native english speakers, we don't practise every day, and it's not with russian people that we could improve it!
We have visited all of photomodeli's salons. There are 8 salons in the center or near the center, maximum 10 mn away from a metro station : large apartments with 3, 4 or 5 bedrooms, modern or soviet style but always clean. They are opened 24/7 permanently with 4 to 10 girls and ruled by a madam. The madam and girls change every day, they work inside about 1 day out of 3. There are more than 100 girls in the catalogue : online on [url]http://www.photomodeli.ru[/url] and printed edition every month. All the girls are not in the catalogue, I guess more than half of them (not the most beautiful ones), so there are more than 200 girls working there, maybe 250.
Photomodeli is the most reliable way to spend good time with charming girls in St Petersburg.
=> Most of their photos are real, although slightly or heavily enhanced with Photoshop. Sometimes your dream girl on catalogue is less than average, but it's definitely more accurate than individual ads or escort agencies. And if you don't like her, you can choose the girl next to her.
=> They range from 4 to 8 in looks, not many 8s, don't expect to find real stunners all the time (they would probably earn more money in other places) but you can find really good looking ones.
=> Prices are reasonnable : 1 hour = 1500 to 2500 rbl (43 to 72 euros), 2 hours = 2000 to 3500 rbl (57 to 100 euros). If 1 hour is 1500 or 1800 rbl, more than 3 hours is 1000 rbl per hour, ie 4 hours = 4000 rbl, 8 hours = 8000 rbl (I don't know the corresponding price for the top salons).
=> They are honest : the price is the same for russians or tourists and is clearly mentionned on the website. Price depends of the quality of the salon, not on the girl : no bargain with the girl, you simply choose the one you like the most. Several times I have leaved my money while in the bathroom, nothing was stolen (but don't carry too much cash, simple precaution)
=> Most of the girls have good attitude with their clients and are willing to make you spend a good time. I have been with 8 of them : 2 were disappointing (mechanical but not unpleasant), 4 were good performance, and 2 really good sex. Everything is covered (I prefer that), no DFK (I also didn't ask for it), and no anal.
=> You can do it inside the salon or in your place. The price is the same, the taxi is included or not expensive.
Only drawback is that they speak poor english or no english at all. The madam often speaks only russian, sometimes she asks one of her girls to translate. There is only a few girls who can speak intermediate english, so you have to learn some russian words. Most important ones are "Zdrastvuite. Ya na ulitse ou salona. Pajalousta vstretite minia" : "Hello. I'm in the street in front of the salon, please meet me".
Here is the standard procedure :
1. Good thing to do is to call them before to see who is working today. There are more girls and more customers in the evening but still a good choice in the afternoon.
2. You come in front of the building and call the salon (there is always a phone cabin next to it). These are discreet places, you don't know the apartment number. Outside there is no indication about what's inside and there is a security entrance code.
3. The madam meets you in the street and leads you inside. You leave your shoes, go to the living-room. You can take a printed catalogue which is not available in kiosk. You can also order drinks (prices similar to cafe, not high rates like in night clubs)
4. A few minutes later, 4 to 10 girls enter dressed in sexy underwear. It's rather embarrassing for them to be displayed like fresh meat, so don't hesitate too much.
5. You choose you girl, pay the madam, get a clean towel, take a shower in the bathroom (no shower cabin in the rooms, it's not an hotel, the girl also takes often a shower but not with you), and go to a room. The sheets are changed with every customer.
6. You do what you have to do with the girl. 5 minutes before the end, the madam knocks at you door. Hour is exactely 60 minutes.
7. You and the girl get dressed, she leads you back to the door with a big smile and a kiss on your cheek
As mentioned before, you can also take her to your place. Time begins when the girl enters in your place and ends when she leaves. It's convenient for everybody because in the evening most of their rooms are engaged. The driver comes shortly into you apartment to make sure there is nobody else and that you have a bathroom and double bed. He comes back at the end of the meeting and takes the girl back to the salon. Since they don't speak good english and some photos can be misleading, it's better to go first to the salon, choose the girl and bring her back instead of calling them and wait in your apartment.
Next time I will write about each salon I have visited and the 8 girls with whom I have spend a few nice hours. To be continued...
Dante,
This is a REALLY awesome report. Thanks. I look forward to the rest of it.
I will be staying at the Radisson that has its own security and really don't want to deal with some pimp going up to my room to check it out.
I'm definitely going to make a trip to the salon to pick a girl though, since it seems like a pretty good deal to me.
[QUOTE=Dant75]=> As mentioned before, you can also take her to your place. Time begins when the girl enters in your place and ends when she leaves. It's convenient for everybody because in the evening most of their rooms are engaged. The driver comes shortly into you apartment to make sure there is nobody else and that you have a bathroom and double bed. He comes back at the end of the meeting and takes the girl back to the salon. Since they don't speak good english and some photos can be misleading, it's better to go first to the salon, choose the girl and bring her back instead of calling them and wait in your apartment.
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Dant75,
Excellent report. look forward to reading your next report on the 8 beauties. If you can identify the ones that speak some English that would be great. I have an upcoming trip and would like to invite talent to my hotel room
Dante,
nice report. What is the expectation regarding multiple shots? Does it vary girl to girl? I often find myself in the unfortunate position of being ready to come at about the half hour mark and then having to decide "no, hold off because they will finish session". But if I hold off, I am often unable to shoot later on and then the girl is sad because she thinks she disappointed me. If i knew 60 minutes was 60 minutes regardless of shots, then I could better enjoy myself.
[QUOTE=Pacific1]Dante,
This is a REALLY awesome report. Thanks. I look forward to the rest of it.
I will be staying at the Radisson that has its own security and really don't want to deal with some pimp going up to my room to check it out.
I'm definitely going to make a trip to the salon to pick a girl though, since it seems like a pretty good deal to me.[/QUOTE]Hey Pacific1,
I was thinking of staying also at the Radisson for my upcoming trip. It would be great if you could file a report if you had any problems bring in the local "talent" and also if you used the Photomodeli girls.
Thanks - Firebird
Is anyone familiar with the Hotel Pribaltiyskaya or Hotel Sovetskaya? Are these "girl friendly" and near the action on Nevsky Pr? How do they compare to the Radisson?
Sorry for all these questions, but I am running out time and I need to make decision fast.
Thanks for feedback,
Firebird
Rovnak,
My experience with multiple shots in St Petes salons is that the girls encourage them. They know that if you are well drained and happy the may receive a much better tip.
Fire when ready.
Guido88
Pacific1, Firebird, Rovnak : thanks for your encouragements.
Rovnak : I'm not a sex machine. For me 1 hour is one shot, 2 hours is 2 shots. I also make acquaintance, talking (take a russian language method, they appreciate your efforts to speak little russian) and get massage (usually good massage). Better choose 2 hours because 2nd hour isn't expensive. My friend got as much shots as he could during 1 or 2 hours. He also had some DFK, OWO and CIM depending on the girl.
Pacific1 & Firebird : the driver won't go inside your hotel, he just has to check that you have decent place for your girl, and for sure Radisson is a decent one but I don't know if it is girl friendly. For sure it's more comfortable and intimate to do it in your hotel, but for me it wasn't so bad to do it in the salons.
**** [url=http://www.photomodeli.ru/salon.php?id=2&place=4]Kamennoostrovskiy 24[/url] ****
1 hour = 2500 rbl (71 euros), 2 hours = 3500 rbl (100 euros)
It's their top salon, 10 mn from Petrogradskaya metro, luxurious apartment with large flat TV in the living room and leather sofa.
Unfortunately [url=http://www.photomodeli.ru/ankette.php?id=124]Vika[/url] and [url=http://www.photomodeli.ru/ankette.php?id=182]Lena[/url] were not available during my stay in St Petersburg. I was proposed 2 tall girls with good figures, but I didn't like their faces (don't know why), then 2 other girls which were less beautiful. I insisted to see [url=http://www.photomodeli.ru/ankette.php?id=9]Ruslana[/url], she finally came on show and I understood why the madam first told me not before the evening. She didn't look good, like she didn't sleep since 24 hours and had angry face, sorry Ruslana!
So I told the madam that I would go to the neighbouring salon in the same building and she called her collegue. I came another day to Kamennoostrovskiy and saw [url=http://www.photomodeli.ru/ankette.php?id=10]Mila[/url] in the street. She really looks like her photos !
**** [url=http://www.photomodeli.ru/salon.php?id=12&place=4]Kamennoostrovskiy 24 level 2[/url] **** (Bolshaya Monetnaya on their printed catalogue)
1 hour = 2500 rbl (71 euros), 2 hours = 3500 rbl (100 euros)
It's just above Kamennoostrovskiy 24 level 1. The madams and girls are not the same but it's the same configuration : luxurious apartement, large flat TV. I went there 3 times. First time I hesitated between [url=http://www.photomodeli.ru/ankette.php?id=213]Liza[/url] and [url=http://www.photomodeli.ru/ankette.php?id=149]Rimma[/url]. They are gorgeous, yes it's them on their photos !
I first choosed Liza. She was only available 1 hour because she had to go. She's 170 cm tall and not 175 but still very good figure and magnificent eyes. Nice girl, little english, sweet sex session. But she didn't go in the shower before sex and had strong smell coming out of her unshaved wet pussy. I wanted to book her another time and take her in my bathroom but I didn't have the opportunity with so much other girls and salons to visit.
I came back in the salon for Rimma. Only 1 hour because I had to meet Vince (see Bolchoy PS 104 below). Really hot and lively girl, intermediate english. Very good sex performance, the second best experience of my trip. But after I was concerned about her big black moles all over her body. Of course I saw them during our sex session but I didn't pay attention because it was so exciting. It looks like this (it's not her on the photos but the moles are very similar) : [url=http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/6696/moles13md.jpg]Moles1[/url] and [url=http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/5826/moles20hd.jpg]Moles2[/url]. I hope it's not a serious disease. Please, if someone could meet her and ask her to go to the doctor. Everything was covered for me, but I'm still anxious about it :(
Third visit to this salon : I booked [url=http://www.photomodeli.ru/ankette.php?id=115]Sonya[/url] for 2 hours in my apartment. It was disappointing : she has a few extra kilos (her photos must have been enhanced) and cold attitude with me. Very little english. I had only 1 sex session in 2 hours. The meeting was long to finish for both me and her because the driver came back exactely 2 hours later.
Kamennoostrovskiy 24 level 2 is still my preferred salon. For those who are interested, I can assure that [url=http://www.photomodeli.ru/ankette.php?id=195]Mira[/url] has accurate photos and speaks intermediate english.
**** [url=http://www.photomodeli.ru/salon.php?id=10&place=4]Marata 22[/url] ****
1 hour = 2000 rbl (57 euros), 2 hours = 3000 rbl (86 euros)
High class apartment near Plochad Vosstania / Mayakovskaya Metro. I choosed [url=http://www.photomodeli.ru/ankette.php?id=99]Olya[/url] only for one hour late evening because in the afternoon I already had Liza in Kamennoostrovskiy. Actually she has bigger ass and smaller tits than on her photos but she's still a good looking girl. Intermediate english. She did her best to please me although it was difficult for me because it was late and I already had sex in the afternoon. Active girl but some fake moanings.
**** [url=http://www.photomodeli.ru/salon.php?id=4&place=4]Nevskiy 63[/url] ****
1 hour = 2000 rbl (57 euros), 2 hours = 3000 rbl (86 euros)
High class apartment with very good location. It's nearly in front of Magrib : you know where to go if you find in Magrib only average girls quoting 200 euros for company between 2am and 7am. It was our first visit to salon but we didn't take any girl because we didn't really like them compared to what was promised on the website. Later we understood that the photos can be enhanced and that the most beautiful girls are not always there. Another day I came back and have been with [url=http://www.photomodeli.ru/ankette.php?id=208]Milena[/url]. Nice girl, little overweight but well proportionned with beautiful tits and pussy. Little english, good sweet sex session and relaxation.
**** [url=http://www.photomodeli.ru/salon.php?id=5&place=4]Nevskiy 95[/url] ****
1 hour = 1800 rbl (51 euros), 2 hours = 2500 rbl (71 euros)
Good apartment near Plochad Vosstania (less interesting part of Nevskiy Prospect). We went there after having declined the girls from Nevskiy 63. The girls selection was not much better than Nevskiy 63, but it wasn't a painful decision to pick up a girl. I choosed Snezhanna, a sweet petite brunette, 18 y.o., very slim. Intermediate english, not on the web site. I wasn't comfortable to have chosen such a fragile young girl because there was no better girl for me, but she made the job without hesitation or reluctance.
**** [url=http://www.photomodeli.ru/salon.php?id=6&place=4]Nevskiy 162[/url] ****
1 hour = 1800 rbl (51 euros), 2 hours = 2500 rbl (71 euros)
Average class apartment 10 mn from Alexandra Nevskogo metro (end of Nevskiy Prospect). I came here for [url=http://www.photomodeli.ru/ankette.php?id=171]Linda[/url] but she was much less attractive than on her photos, good Photoshop work. So I choosed [url=http://www.photomodeli.ru/ankette.php?id=202]Dasha[/url], no english, has a baby and caesarean scar. But she was nice and we had good time. Good massage with oil. When I took her doggy style, it was nice view and enjoyable. She told me she had good pleasure with me (I think she was sincere).
**** [url=http://www.photomodeli.ru/salon.php?id=7&place=4]Gorokhovaya 46[/url] ****
1 hour = 1500 rbl (43 euros), 2 hours = 2000 rbl (57 euros)
Average class apartment, Sadovaya Metro. No living room so the girls show themselves in the hall, it seems overcrowded (see below why), I saw girls sleeping in a bed in the corridor, just in front of the kitchen and the bathroom. While the cheapest salon, the girls are not the least beautiful ones. I saw a tall gorgeous girl from central asia. She didn't came on show but a few minutes later when the madam asked her to be a translator. Rather good english, I don't remember her name.
I had 2 wonderful hours with Masha, not on the website, 20 y.o. 165 cm, light brown hair, blue eyes, good looking (not the most beautiful but still pretty), beautiful body. Thanks that Vince didn't choose her first ! She spoke very little english but we had good harmony and understanding :) If she wasn't a working girl, I would have enjoyed to be her boyfriend (she doesn't have one). Like many other girls, she says she's student and that's the way she can pay her studies ($1500 per year only for university registration). Lively, teasing, active sex session, she sure knows how to please a man. The best experience of my trip. During action, her tits became hard and her pussy oozed with white juice. She congratulated me for my performance. I wanted to see her again but she didn't want to come in my apartment and asked me to come to the salon, don't know why, so I went elsewhere to visit other girls. And on my last day in St Petersburg she wasn't working :(
**** [url=http://www.photomodeli.ru/salon.php?id=8&place=4]Zhukovskogo 21[/url] ****
We went in front of this building 2 times : first time we couldn't make us understand by the madam. Second time, we asked the address and it was Gorokhovaya 46 ! This salon was closed and the girls moved to Gorokhovaya 46.
**** [url=http://www.photomodeli.ru/salon.php?id=9&place=4]Bolchoy PS 104[/url] ****
1 hour = 1800 rbl (51 euros), 2 hours = 2500 rbl (71 euros)
Average class apartment, 5mn from Petrogradskaya Metro and Kamennoostrovskiy 24 salons. There are only women above 35 y.o. : I just had to lead Vince there before my meeting with Rimma in Kamennoostrovskiy 24.
Photomodeli is the biggest salon chain in St Petersburg. There is also Emmanuel on [url]http://www.prolove.spb.ru[/url] with 3 salons but we didn't visited them because we were really satisfied by Photomodeli. Actually I have only been with Photomodeli girls. Once in Marstall, I spoke a few minutes with Yana, a big breasted brunette. She acted like a business woman and not a girl willing to have sex with you. Once I said that I already visited a salon in the afternoon, I was no more interesting for her. She said she didn't talk for free even though we had paid her red bull drink.
Photomodeli girls often say that they are student who need money for university, holidays on the black sea and latest fashion mobile phone. They don't earn much money while working in the salon : about 30% of what you pay (800 rbl if price is 2500, 1000 rbl if price is 3500) but all of your tip. It may seem very little but in escort agencies it's about 40% and so called individuals in Magrib, Marstall or ads also have to pay for the bar and their pimp. The salon offers rooms and security, so 30% for the girl is rather "honest". While working in the salon, they feel safe instead of going to an unknown place. They don't work full time in salon, during 1 day they can have 1, 2 or sometimes 3 customers.
Of course you miss the fun of picking a girl in Magrib or Marstalls, but it's much more reliable and cheaper. Also for those who prefer daytime or evening action like me, it's more comfortable. I wouldn't say that these salons are the best place on earth, but it's definitely a must to visit in St Petersburg and imho the most reliable and best price/quality. Hope you will confirm my report with hot action ;)
Dant75,
That was an EXCELLENT report. WOW. Great detail. Concerning the black "moles", do not worry about this. These are just "beauty marks" and not a disease that can catch. Other the girl possibly getting checked for "melanoma" (skin cancer) it is not a form of STD. Can't wait to partake of the action - now to find a reasonable and safe hotel nearby? Any suggestions?
Firebird
Anyone can tell me where I can find a place like the night flight of Moscow in San Peterbursg?
Thanks for you help guys.
Tronco,
You could try some of the high-end hotel bars in the evening, Radison or the Hotel Europa. You might find some high $$$$ girls. For better pricing and still good quality try the Magrib, the best in my view for the club girls. Will vary night to night.
Other options Marstals or the Tribnal, both fairly low quality the times I have been there.
You might try the web or salons, both cost effective. If you shop correctly quality can be excellent.
Enjoy,
Guido88
Hello All,
Longtime lurker, first time poster. I've been to Ukraine several times, but not Russia. Looking to travel to SPB this Thanksgiving (yeah, family sucks; what about it. So looking for quick advice:
1. Reputable marriage agencies?
2. Great apartments to stay at?
3. Never seen this website on any ISG post:
[url]www.badrussiangirls.com[/url]
Any experiences with this site?
Thanks,
Peace
I was advised that the Radisson SAS is not a "girl friendly" hotel.
Are any of the following hotels "girl friendly" and near the action? Grand Hotel Emerald, Hotel Corinthia Nevsky, Grand Europe, Hotel Astoria- please advise.
Thanks,
Firebird
[QUOTE=Bladrunr]
3. Never seen this website on any ISG post:
[url]www.badrussiangirls.com[/url]
Any experiences with this site?
[/QUOTE]
I used this website last year to find girls in Ukraine. You must pay a fee to get the phone number or email address of the girl and it's a total waste of money.
Girls who no longer work are not removed, so 90% of their database is out of date. For the remaining ones, you can find them on other (free) web sites.
In Ukraine, 99% of the girls are working for Gia or SFH (free sites). I was really pissed off as, initially, I saw on BadRussianGirls some girls who were not on Gia or SFH websites, so I paid the fee. It turns out that the phone number and email address are those of Gia and SFH. They are former girls of these agencies, who have been removed from their respective website because the girls stopped working long ago.
I've also checked for Belarus, and girls are no longer working too. For Moscow, same girls are on tons of other (free) web sites.
I've not checked St Pete, but I doubt it's different.
Jim
Bladrunr
This site [url]http://www.badrussiangirls.com/[/url] has been getting poor reviews for several years, probably a waste of time.
Guido88
[QUOTE=Vincevoyeur]Saint Petersbourg is the capital of the porn in Russia[/QUOTE]
First porn producer was Sergei Pryanishnikov / SP Company [url]http://www.videofilms.ru[/url], rather russian amateur style. Since 2 years, St Petersburg seems like a new porn place cheaper than Budapest and Prague. There are other western and russian porn productions in St Petersburg like [url]http://www.sineplex.com[/url] (really hardcore movies on DVD) and [url]http://www.teencoreclub.com[/url] (also heavy hardcore on the web).
I thought it could be interesting to meet their actresses for photoshooting and maybe more, and found the following erotic model agencies (registration required but they don't spam you) :
[url]http://www.mixphoto.com[/url]
[url]http://www.newrussianmodels.com[/url]
[url]http://www.russiansexmodels.com[/url]
You can ask to shoot famous erotic models like [url=http://www.modelshrines.com/models/v/viktoria.shtml]Viktoria[/url] or [url=http://www.eurobabeindex.com/sbandoindex/koika.html]Masha / Koika[/url], $220 for softcore shooting, maybe $100 if the model is less famous.
You can also tell them that you want to make a hardcore shooting and don't have enough money to hire a male model, so you will perform yourself in POV style (Point Of View) ;) But it's minimum $200 for a single scene ($300 for the most beautiful girls). Some of them also provide escort but around $400 a night. We didn't use them because [url=http://www.photomodeli.ru]Photomodeli[/url] was much cheaper.
There is also this one : [url]http://catsmodels.spb.ru[/url]. Real stunners, some 9s, but it's only for artistic nude and minimum 200 euros for a photoshoot. If you make photos with models, don't forget to post them here :)
Firebird: Read my report from 7/28/05. I had no problems bringing girls to Radisson. When negotiating with the girls, inform them you will escort them to AND from the room when finished. Hotel security may hit them up for a bribe if they are alone, but they won't do so if you are accompanying them. Its a nice but expensive hotel located across from Magrib. Its an easy walk to Marstall's from there also.
[QUOTE=Dant75]First porn producer was Sergei Pryanishnikov / SP Company [url]http://www.videofilms.ru[/url], rather russian amateur style. Since 2 years, St Petersburg seems like a new porn place cheaper than Budapest and Prague. There are other western and russian porn productions in St Petersburg like [url]http://www.sineplex.com[/url] (really hardcore movies on DVD) and [url]http://www.teencoreclub.com[/url] (also heavy hardcore on the web).
I thought it could be interesting to meet their actresses for photoshooting and maybe more, and found the following erotic model agencies (registration required but they don't spam you) :
[url]http://www.mixphoto.com[/url]
[url]http://www.newrussianmodels.com[/url]
[url]http://www.russiansexmodels.com[/url]
You can ask to shoot famous erotic models like [url=http://www.modelshrines.com/models/v/viktoria.shtml]Viktoria[/url] or [url=http://www.eurobabeindex.com/sbandoindex/koika.html]Masha / Koika[/url], $220 for softcore shooting, maybe $100 if the model is less famous.
You can also tell them that you want to make a hardcore shooting and don't have enough money to hire a male model, so you will perform yourself in POV style (Point Of View) ;) But it's minimum $200 for a single scene ($300 for the most beautiful girls). Some of them also provide escort but around $400 a night. We didn't use them because [url=http://www.photomodeli.ru]Photomodeli[/url] was much cheaper.
There is also this one : [url]http://catsmodels.spb.ru[/url]. Real stunners, some 9s, but it's only for artistic nude and minimum 200 euros for a photoshoot. If you make photos with models, don't forget to post them here :)[/QUOTE]We do not give models for private shoots. We find no sense.
On my recent trip to SPB I stayed at the Admiralty 1 apartment listed on the site [url]http://www.dailyexpress.ru/[/url] I was very impressed with the accomodation, and so were the young ladys that I had over during the week. The jacuzzi tub was a big hit! It is right on the Neva close to the Hermitage. Hotels in Petersburg are overpriced and undersized. This is a great alternative.
[QUOTE=Firebird]I was advised that the Radisson SAS is not a "girl friendly" hotel.
Are any of the following hotels "girl friendly" and near the action? Grand Hotel Emerald, Hotel Corinthia Nevsky, Grand Europe, Hotel Astoria- please advise.
Thanks,
Firebird[/QUOTE]Hotel Corinthia Nevsky permits several girls to sit next to the elevators late and night and ask whether their company is needed. The hotel is across the (busy) street from Magribs, where there are professional and non professional girls dancing till late.
[QUOTE=Mixphoto]We do not give models for private shoots. We find no sense.[/QUOTE]I see that you watch over this forum. Hmm... That's not what you told me when I asked you about amateur photoshooting. I have negociated a price for private shoot and you answered me :
[i]About models You will need pay $XXX per 2 hours for work of each model and $XX brokerage to me for each model. If you like my offer let me know when you come to St Petersburg.[/i]
But I understand that you don't want to send your girls to a monger's appartment. You are not escort agency, when I asked you about a night with one of your models, you didn't reply.
[url=http://www.russiansexmodels.com]RussianSexModels[/url] : you can ask a hardcore scene with a russian pornstar for $200 - $300 and say that you will perform yourself instead of hiring a male model. Don't know if the girl will be alone or if there will be an assistant, this is acting, not escorting ;)
[url=http://newrussianmodels.com]NewRussianModels[/url] : escort service with some of their girls, $400 - $500 a night.
Do any know if it's possible to take the girls to an apartment or a hotel as escort?
I'm new here, so not sure what doing yet, but I'm looking for some info. I will be visiting St. Petersburgh early next year and will be looking for some 'company'. I like women with long hair and am wondering if anyone here knows of any or knows where i should start looking to find women like this.
Thanks in advance for any help, it is much appreciated.
I tried photomodeli last week (Nevski 95) and it was a big disappointment. I had an appartment (See elsewhere in this forum), which was ok. I wanted to take a girl to my appartment, but the lady in charge did not allow this after I told her where it was, it was 'unsafe' she said (?). I looked at the room she offered instead at Nevsky 95 and I agreed. The room was ok: large bed, nice mirror, large bathroom. The girls lined up in the living room which is indeed a little embarrassing and I choosed one, Masha (not in the catalog) for 2 hours. A very beautiful girl, blonde and green eyes if I remember well. She did not speak a word of English. I am lucky to speak some Russian, and normally my Russian combined with some English is enough for a conversation, but with no English at all it was difficult. The sex was quite bad. First she gave a massage which was average but nothing special and then she allowed to have sex, but allowed to come one time only. She gave no oral, and I was not allowed to touch her body, she also didn't want to strip. So what do you do with 2 hours if you cannot have sex and no conversation? I decided to leave earlier.
I tried photomodeli -nevsky 95 last week, it was a big disappointment. Not allowed to take girl to my appartment, the girl (masha) was goodlooking but did not speak any english, only average massage, only one time sex although I paid for 2 hours. No striptease, no oral, no touching allowed. So I left earlier.
I tried a few stripclubs in St Petersburg last week. Girls where not stripping completely nude in any of the clubs I visited. Actually it was more dancing then stripping. So not very interesting compared with clubs I visited in Portugal, New Zealand, Netherlands.
The first one I visited was Maximus. Big club, entrance was 700 rub but drinks normal price. Very crowded and lots of girls. I liked it.
Second was Gotika. Somewhat difficult to find. Cheap entrance, I think 150 rub. Hardly no people there so all the girls where coming to me and asked for a tip. Too much, so I left early. Not recommended.
I found a club on a boat at Neva river, Tutsi bar but did not go in, because it did not look like crowed with people, and atmosphere did not look friendly. It was rather far from the center.
The last one was Golden dolls. First I didn't want to go there because I heared so many bad things about it. But it was not so bad. Entrance is not cheap, 1000 rub I think. Not crowed but enough people. Friendly girls. I even had a private dance there and I liked it. Private dance and drinks not too expensive. You can have sex there also but that is way to expensive (400 dollar). What I didn't like was the checkroom where the man was not very kindly asking for a tip after he returned my coat.
Sex Traveller,
In regards to paying for 2 hours of sex and only getting one orgasm, no oral, no touching, you made a classic mistake that most of us do when we first go to Russia.
You Were Way Too Nice!
The girls know that foreign men are way to nice and some will try exploit that fact. The girls know their jobs what is expected and will do their jobs correctly if you direct them.
You must act as a Russian man, take no bullshit, repeatedly and strongly insist they do what is required. You may hear no several times, continue to direct strongly and you will eventually hear in a meek voice “Ok”
You paid for two hours of sex. I have never had a refusal for two hours of sex but have had girls refuse oral. With proper direction the refusal became “Ok” and good oral ensued.
You set the ground rules, if there is a problem go to the manager and say the girl is shit and you want another.
You might try Fantasy Salon, at #12 Sovietskaya 2 apartment #14 it is 1 block over from the Moscow train station. Good girls and good service.
Guido88
I think that Guido 88 wrote the best advice any of us can hear. I am just now discovering his advice after years of doing business in Russia. You can get Russian girls at hotels, saunas, everywhere even without good advice. But his advice is the best. With all of the oil money going around Moscow,and a little bit Petersburg, attitudes among girls with foreigners happens more often than before. But as soon as they see that you are strict, thy respond. The compliment my girl on the side that I have on the side for a couple years, former pro, is " you are a strict man" It is the Russian mentality and culture. Thanks for the great post Guido 88.
Yeah. Right,
Please be advised that there is usually organization of bad bad boys behind those pros though. They wouldn't be happy to know about you being rough toward girls. Sometimes they can violate somebody too :). Exercise common sense and safe precautions b/c you are easy target for them.
I totally agree with Guido88 too, be strict or you will end to pay and to have only "conversation".
Thanks to Guido88 I went with him to Fantasy to my second day in Piter and I had the best pussy of all my 10 days in Piter, Fantasy is good location, so close to Nevksi and not expensive, it worth it for sure!
Viki from Fantasy sept 04.
I am not able to put the foto, anybody knows why?
Sex Traveller,
S sorry that you had bad experience in Nevsky 95. I don't recall this Masha, probably she wasn't working when I visited the salon (no shower in the rooms, there is one bathroom for the entire apartment which has 4 rooms). I was nice with Photomodeli girls and 6 girls out of 8 gave me good service. I never ask for BBBJ and sometimes I wasn't allowed to touch pussy with my hand, but it wasn't a big deal for me.
Lukasek & Guido88 : could you tell us more about Fantasy salon ?
Is it this one [url]http://www.fantaziyalove.ru[/url] ? 3 salons, do you know where are the 2 other salons ?
Do they speak english ? Accurate photos ? How many girls ? Nice and beautiful ones ? Good and clean apartment ? Good services?
Thanks
Dante75,
Originally this was the correct link to get to Fantasy salon. [url]http://www.amurspb.ru/[/url]. Looking now I do not see the salon page. On the plus side they have added several options for kink and perversion.
Fantasy is located 1 block from the train station that goes to Moscow. The street is Sovietskaya 2, building #12 Apartment # 14. They also advertise in the magazines you get at the kiosks. Ask for Rendezvous mag. They have a sister salon Massage + thats not bad either. Both have had from 2-8 girls with some great quality. Late afternoons are the best before the rush. Check the photo section for quality. Most do not speak English, the service & apartments were fine.
Check the photo section for quality- you decide
I have also had good luck with the Domino agency. No link. There is a good salon 168 Starry Nevsky, Up to a dozen girls. This is the one where Lucasek proudly asks 12 girls who takes it up the ass Several laughed, a couple blushed and four raised their hands.
Home delivery works well, within an hour the girl will be at the door. Wrong girl or not cute you send her back. Check the magazines.
Petersburg is full of salons
Enjoy.
Guido88
I was in Spb for 2 weeks and checked out Nevsky 63, Marstalls and Magrib.
Marstalls was the worst. Worn out, older chicks. The strippers were hot and I enjoyed watching some dude bring up a bunch of drunk russian gals and guys up to the stage and make them do silly stuff. Not recommended for p4p.
Magrib simply has the best looking women - unfortunately, most of the best looking ones aren't for sale. There were a few p4p chicks I saw and one very hot one. The hot one didn't speak English beyond "hello, my name is ....." and I didn't speak any Russian so that was the end of that.
Nevsky 63 turned out to be the best deal. I had the pleasure of sampling 3 women, none of whom are on the photomodeli.ru website. The first was a from Kazakstan, asian looking, very enthusiastic, wanted to fuck all the time. Soft moaning all the time. Bad thing - had bo, pussy stank a bit, didn't shower before the deed. Had 2 shots and left before the hour was up.
The next one was heavenly. Young - she said she was 22 or so - perfect tits (she said they were too small), long legs, blonde. Spoke some English and I enjoyed chatting with her while fucking her. Everything covered, no DFK and I didn't want DATY. Overall - good experience. I should have gone back to see her again. Sigh.
Third chick spoke no English. Didn't want to allow more than one shot in one hour so I fucked her hard in multiple positions and hit her head against the headboard a couple times. Heh. Slapped her ass quite a bit and did a bit of anal probing, in spite of her protests.
The woman running the place wanted to charge me an extra 1500 roubles to take the chicks to the Radisson so I said fuck it. I tried to argue with her that they wouldn't make the girl pay extra if she walked in and out with me but the ***** wouldn't listen so I let it go. The place was half a block down from the Radisson so I didn't care too much.
I must say - Russian women are incredibly hot. Sitting in the hotel lobby, I would watch the regular morning office traffic walk past and my head was swivelling constantly from side to side. They have this incredible mix of sweet and sexy. And no attitude either. I think if I stayed in Spb for a month or two, I'd find a nice, young, dyevushka or two to sponsor fulltime. Heck, I might even do something more stupid than that. The bitches in LA need to learn a thing or two from these lovely dyevushkas (don't you love that word?).
Nice report Pac1. Marstall's sucks and I didn't see or was unable to determine any p4p action at Magrib. Wish I had known about Nevsky 63 when I was in SPB a few months ago. I don't believe there were any posts about it on this board at that time. I did enjoy Tribunal. Did you go there?
I agree with the LA girls taking a few hints about sexuality/attitude from the Russian girls. And I also stood at the front door of the Radission during the day watching the parade of girls walk by. I was in complete disbelief at how beautiful so many of them were.
A lot of people are reporting trouble identifying pros at Magrib, it was always a bit of a problem. Or has the scene dried up? Any recent action by WSG members? What night? The night of the week makes a big difference...
Here a picture of two girls... which one do you think was working? :)
I will be in St Pete next weekend. Anyone want to meet for a beer? Pls pm me.
Well, from my experiences, I' dare to say the ones who seem, aren't. The ones who doesn't seem, may be they are working, maybe not. When I say "seem" I mean because of her clothes.
[QUOTE=Doctor_Skank]A lot of people are reporting trouble identifying pros at Magrib, it was always a bit of a problem. Or has the scene dried up? Any recent action by ISG members? What night? The night of the week makes a big difference.
Here a picture of two girls... which one do you think was working? :)[/QUOTE]
Hey!
Half november I will be in St.Petersburg. I don't have an apartment yet, there. The Agency I do normaly business with does only have apartments for Moscow. Does anyone knows a website with some apartments?
Cheers
From my recollection from a couple of years ago almost all the girls in Magrib were available in one way or another, but not necessarily on the game. But if it is hookers that you definately want then here is the spotting guide. I am sure it has not changed any...
1) By the entrance to the dance area, arched antrance, just inside is a spot where there is often just one girl standing, looking lonely. Whoever she is, she will be working.
2) By the bar on the right hand side, as you enter the dance area, is a 'meat rack' near the entrance, if you see girls hanging there, then the chances of them not working are very slim.
3) Look out for the young guys with two or three girls each. Too young and not rich enough dressed to be local 'doodz', they will often dance with one or more girls at the same time, showing them off. They are showing off their merchandise.
4) Assume all women there are available, very few go there just for the music! They may not be seeking immediate compensation though, if you have good game and a good, plausible story.
5) I understand that Tursday night is still expat night. The place will be full of women, but there are very few female expats in St Petersburg...
Girls in Magrib all have to pay rent, sometimes newbies will try to avoid doing so. They will, therefore, not do a deal in the club but will often pop out to the bistro on the corner just on the right from the club. If a girl is seen trying this on too often the other girls will dob her in to the security. So, if a girl seems to be wanting to be discreet either leave the club seperately and negotiate (there is no problem with passouts!), or make a 'date' for another time.
The owners of the club are Iranian and they often come in with their friends, the girls who are with them, or hanging around will also be working, but not available until the owners leave, or another time, so it is worth keeping a weather eye open.) just don't hit on either of the manager's girls though!
As a general aside, don't forget that most women in the city live in the suburbs, not the central area, they get trapped after about 01:00 by the raising of the bridges. Some girls will hang around clubs waiting for the bridges to lower, at about 06:00, allowing them to return home, but a very useful gambit is the offer of a nightcap and bed at your nearby apartment, allowing them to get some shut-eye. It has worked very well for me in the past and is one hell of a lot cheaper than renting, but it is best used with a girl you are already talking to, to close a deal. Only a dick will walk around saying 'you wanna come back to my place' to random strangers!
[QUOTE=Doctor_Skank]A lot of people are reporting trouble identifying pros at Magrib, it was always a bit of a problem. Or has the scene dried up? Any recent action by ISG members? What night? The night of the week makes a big difference.
Here a picture of two girls... which one do you think was working? :)[/QUOTE]
Doc, you must restore the reputation of the non-working girl. First girl ([url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=30305]workingornot.jpg[/url]) looks like Lada you met in Magrib, september 2004, $100 fare for the night ([url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=288123&postcount=292]Day 3: Dirty shoes[/url] + photos [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=288124&postcount=418]here[/url], [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=293229&postcount=433]here[/url] and [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=293236&postcount=434]here[/url]). Am I right ? Did I win her telephone number :) ?
[QUOTE=Pacific1]Nevsky 63 turned out to be the best deal. I had the pleasure of sampling 3 women, none of whom are on the photomodeli.ru website. (...) The next one was heavenly. Young - she said she was 22 or so - perfect tits (she said they were too small), long legs, blonde. Spoke some English and I enjoyed chatting with her while fucking her. Everything covered, no DFK and I didn't want DATY. Overall - good experience. I should have gone back to see her again. Sigh.
[/QUOTE]
Pacific1, is it the same girl as Jusewah's Olya in the photo gallery : [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=402321&postcount=746]here[/url], [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=402658&postcount=748]here[/url], and [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=402660&postcount=749]here[/url] ?
I've been 2 times in Nevsky 63, didn't meet her :(
Dant75:
You win! But I lost her number... shame... she was a banshee. But easy to recognize as working... :)
[QUOTE=Dant75]Doc, you must restore the reputation of the non-working girl. First girl ([url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=30305]workingornot.jpg[/url]) looks like Lada you met in Magrib, september 2004, $100 fare for the night ([url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=288123&postcount=292]Day 3: Dirty shoes[/url] + photos [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=288124&postcount=418]here[/url], [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=293229&postcount=433]here[/url] and [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=293236&postcount=434]here[/url]). Am I right ? Did I win her telephone number :) ?
Pacific1, is it the same girl as Jusewah's Olya in the photo gallery : [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=402321&postcount=746]here[/url], [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=402658&postcount=748]here[/url], and [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=402660&postcount=749]here[/url] ?
I've been 2 times in Nevsky 63, didn't meet her :([/QUOTE]
Actually, Ulla said she had never worked anywhere, and had only slept with her boyfriend, prior to my Sept 21 visit there. This was verified by the Uzbecki Sunny (a great girl on her own accord), who said that Ulla had only been there the day prior, but then just to check the place out and arrange to work for the first time the day of my visit. Ulla may be working days there, but I wouldn't know how often.
As you can see, worth it!
About amurspb.ru
Just leave the "www" out and the site works.
Hello, i will finish my est european tour with SPB (this year i've been in Prague and Riga). I'll be in SPB from 5 till 12 dec.
What about a WSG meeting in SPB?
Matteo
well its about time i report from spb. with two months under my belt, i have some info to share. anyone coming to town can drop me a line if they want more.
long story short, spb sucks for newbies, but is pretty good if you live here and are willing to put time and effort into the hobby.
working bars:
magrib - ok, girls think they are hotter than they really are, and think they are worth more than they really are. but at least they are there and if you are traveling you can drop in and shop. i live right next to it, and i don't have the urge to go since i have found better service and looks in the apartments. plus, i did go early on and saw one of the ladies in magrib twice, and i dread the innevitable "why don't you like me anymore" showdown. i did not see any true stunners there.
marstals - horrible. went twice,stayed less than an hour both times and split.
tribunal - ok, don't go anymore, too far. slim pickings.
apartments:
where do i start?
i wish i could produce an annotated map with all of my hard earned findings. i've traveled from end to end in the spb metro, walked miles in the spb streets, entered countless courtyards, climbed darkened stairwells, dealt with all of the peculiarities of spb/russian style. all in the pursuit of the elusive devushka goddess.
first of all. there are several street mags, znacomstva and rendevu (pronounced "rendesvous", like the frency. i prefer rendevu since it is easier to pronounce and it also has better coverage. there is a small 8x6 rendesvous and a larger 10x12 rendevu. some photos in there are labeled "100% photo originale". this is a hit and miss label. like most things russian, there is a grey line. in fact, some of these are legit, but then there a some salons/apartments which blissfully label their ads 100% photo originale, and when you show up and confront them, they say "no, not really, but don't you like the girl/goblins we just showed you??"
here is a web site that claims to use only original photos and in my judgement these are legit. and as you can see, they are not really stunners. they are representative of what you will find.
[url]http://sexspb.ru/[/url]
i personally have found much prettier than those listed, but it took quite a bit of trial and error. i have routinely visited several apartments in a mongering outing and simply walked out.
some of the hotties on the amurspb site are real, i can vouch for them.
[url]http://amurspb.ru/pager/p3[/url]
there are a few more reliable apartment/salon networks.
[url]www.photomodeli.com[/url] has been discussed already. i went their "gold" location and had a young brunette. she was very sexual, but her pussy stank and it was a bad experience because of that. have not gone back.
[url]www.dominogirls.com[/url] (link broken for me, may be temporary)
they have 4 or 5 locations around the city. i've been to 3. they have an english speaking administrator natasha who is pretty good. she will not force crap on you. she will try to work with you. i recommend her.
have seen 3 girls from here, jasmine (accurate photo), vica (fake photo), and can't remember (accurate photo). all three were enjoyable, i even repeated with jasmine, but she started to get lazy the second time, so i did not threepeat. the "can't remember" seemed overly interested in getting me off with the bj ... and she succeeded to my chagrin, and then she succeeded again in ds, so i guess i should remember her name.
[url]http://www.kica.ru/[/url] - this is one or two or three affiliated apartments. i went to one on morskaya (mala or bolshaya). i saw sasha, photo accurate. she was very hot, but then very moody. it was my early days and language was a problem. this place gave me the runaround several times because i really wanted to see a girl i had seen in august visit, who was still listed on their site (since removed). they told me she was there. then i showed up and they said "she's not here" and i said when? and they said "tomorrow". so i called back tomorrow. "she's here!" ..."really?" ... "no she's not here." ... "when?" ..."friday" ---- friday comes "hello, is she there?" ... "no she does not work here anymore".
and so it goes. this is the game, these lousy administrators love to play. at several of these apartments. the best ones pictured innevitablly "don't work there anymore, or just went on vacation, or just left 5 minutes before you arrived. the other night, i went to apartment on 146 nevsky. several hotties pictured in mag and net. they said they had 7 girls in lineup. i said i'll be there in 30 minutes. instead, i was an hour getting there. "oh, you said 30 minutes!" .."so" ..."well, 5 girls just left 5 minutes ago to go to a party on outside of town" ..."really? 5 minutes ago?" ..."yes, you were late" ..."right"
then there is the virgins salon on gorokovskaya. this just got an influx of talent because another top salon called nirvana got a new administrator and she fired all their "old" girls. the "old" girls are better than the ones they have hired. anyway, some/all of these girls have gone to the virgins salon on gorokovskaya. pictures are rep001tered on [url]http://www.amurspb.ru/[/url]
basically, the best technique for hard core hunting is to find one phone number, and the paste it into the search form on [url]http://sextalk.ru/postlist.php?cat=0&board=clsr_spb[/url]
this form will then return the list of mathing adverts for that number on several well known sites. this is one way to check whether a girl is really indy or affiliated with an apartment/salon.
i have been selective and have gotten to the point where i now arrange to see my favorites on their own time at my place. i give them the same $$ i would pay in salon but they get to keep it, and its a win win.
i can't possibly list all that i have learned, right now. some day i will try to collate my notes and make a list, but the way these apartments work, its like shooting at a moving target. they have multiple phone numbers, they change addresses, they have all sorts of networks between them. the other day, i saw the same girl in a lineup at a totally unexpected location, different from where i had seen her before.
the best i can do is perhaps provide some direct q/a. if you are here and are interested in knowing whether a particular location or ad is legit i can help.
also, i can definitely help with getting past the worst part of the whole apartment game ... the freaking apartment number problem.
i mean, its bad enough that i can barely speak the language enough to get the address on the phone. but they refuse to give you the apartment numberr till you show up on the street. so you finally get to the house (doma) and its sometimes a city block in size with a courtyard and anywhere from 5 to 10 separate entrances, and you have to call and say "i'm here!!" while the wind is blowing, and the cars are roaring past, and you can hardly hear anything coming out of your cellular phone. and you try to say "what do you want me to do now? wait or give me the room (quartera?)" and they shout something incomprehensible back at you, and you say "i don't understand" and they shout more incomprehensible stuff at you, only louder so that it totally distorts on your little cellular phone headset. and finally, you negotiate a strategy to meet. sometimes they talk you to the door "straight, straight, left, left ... there ... no ...right...now ###". sometimes, they come to the street to meet you, but they inevitably take nearly as much time to get from their room to the street as it took me to cross town.
its just as bad when the girls come to you. even if i give them my apartment number, even they can't find the apartments. i typically have to go meet them on the street, even though i have a video monitor on the door and i can buzz them up. its like the whole system of apartment number addressing is beyond the average russian's ability. the ups guys must be the smarted f'rs in all of russia.
so, if you are headed out to a strange address, i just might be able to tell you how to make a proper landing. "go into the ach and bear left along the wall, follow the wall to the 4th door and then buzz 101" ... and of course on some doors you just enter the numbers and on some doors you enter the numbers and then the letter "b" or whatever ... its a mess ... but its worth it when you find a hottie.
See, here's an example of how you can tell if the internet photos are legit or not.
Step 1
Go to a site like [url]http://www.amurspb.ru/pager/p1[/url]
When I'm typing this the firrst girl listed is
[url]http://amurspb.ru/Girls/507[/url]
And her phonenumber is 716-4800
Step 2a
Type that phonenumber into the Telephone field at the top of the amurspb list page, and hit return. It shows you a list of other adverts with the same number on this site.
[url]http://amurspb.ru/index.php?search%5Bsex%5D=1&search%5Bname%5D=&search%5Bphone%5D=716-4800&search%5Bmet%5D=si_none&search%5Bheight%3E%5D=&search%5Bheight%3C%5D=&search%5Bweight%3E%5D=&search%5Bweight%3C%5D=&search%5Bbust%3E%5D=&search%5Bbust%3C%5D=&search%5Bcost_home1%3E%5D=&search%5Bcost_home1%3C%5D=[/url]
Alternatively, for a wider search you can go to (and this is where firefox tabs beat the hell out of IE) [url]http://sextalk.ru/postlist.php?Cat=0&Board=clsr_spb[/url]
In the telephone number search field (the only text field on that page) enter the 716-4800
Press the ok and voila the search returns somthing that looks like this.
Результаты метапоиска по телефону: 716-4800
yandex.ru: 213
omen.ru: 9
intimcity.ru: 7
devushki.nu: 2
Step 3
Investigate the common phone number links. In this case the omen link is
[url]http://an.aport.ru/scripts/template.dll?Rt=2&Tn=22&ini=20.ini&Base=love&That=love&sf=timestamp&sort=8&fld_Phone=7164800[/url]
And note that at least one of the OTHER girls listed at that number is also photographed on the same couch as the girl that we started the investigation with.
[url]http://dating.omen.ru/love.pl?f=ushow&f_id=601105[/url]
And in fact, you can see that some of the other devs in that omen group have been photographed in another common backdrop as well.
Ipso facto ... this salon is definitely using some legit photos ... cogito ergo monger
Salon Mercedes, looks like a nice high end salon on Petrogradskaya 970-63-97. Nice english speaking administrator. Seem to want to keep low profile. Don't paste pics everywhere. Can see some on [url]http://amurspb.ru/forum[/url] if you register.
Also, here is the private site for the salon with the girls I noted in my last post as having similar photo backgrounds. It is called High Life. It looks to be a salon with two locations, on on Vasilevsky Island and on on Plochad Vostania (Center). Unfortunately for me, the better girls seem to be on Vasilevsky.
[url]http://www.highlife.spb.ru/girls.html[/url]
Ok, I now recall the name of the 3rd Domino dev I saw. It was Alissa, and her pics are real, though she is highly photogenic, and the photographer does a good job finding her best angles, so she is not quite as attractive in person.
[url]http://www.amurspb.ru/Girls/243/6[/url]
Anyway, like I said she got me off twice in a shorter time than anyone else, which I suppose is to her credit. On the other hand, I like long tussles, and I like girls who like long tussles, so I would not see her again, if you follow my drft.
But for those that like a knock out BJ, she is your girl, covered of course.
I was in St Pbg from 1st October to 15th October. Usually, when I travel I like to rent a car. See the country. Take a woman with you. I have seen all of Romania, Bulgaria, South Africa, USA, Canada, Switzerland that way. Never had a probelm. Until St Pbg.
Whatever you do, NEVER rent in Russia. And if you REALLY have to. NEVER rent from HERTZ Rent A CAR in St PBG. They have 3 offices. 2 at the Airport) PULkovov 1 and 2). And one in White Nights House just of the Nevsky Prospekt.
I have never driven in traffic like St Pbg. The drivers are suicidal maniacs. I am from UK. We have about the same no. Of cars. About 28m. Squashed into a tiny space. But we have 3, 500 die on the roads. But 39, 000 die in Russia.
The new Russians (mafia) have bought top of the range mercedes and BMW. But have no idea how to drive them. So they just knock anyone down.
Well, I had never been to Russia before. I have a girlfriend there that I found through a Dating Bureau. She is nice. But I feel sorry for her being in Russia. They hate in there. It is a miserable place. There are gorgeous women on the Nevsky and I am sure you can easily pick them up.
Whenever I spoke english, all the girls lokked around. But I was sopken for and I am 56 and I could scarely keep up with er. Never mind shag the one million women between 16 and 40 hwo livve in that city (Pop. 5m).
Well, lots of little things niggle you.
1. Getting a visa. My first attempt failed. After 3 weeks. Got it send back. Wrong size photo. After that I used a visa service. I was now in a hurry. Did not want to get there when the winter starts. That is 1st November, and the fucking snow there gets really high. And is VERY cold. -20 to -30C.
Well. I paid £92 for the rush, rush service. As soon as they get the passport, they get it that day. But the visa costs £90 then in stead of £30. Then £35 for the invitation (gotta have one, guys. And the original). And £6 registered mail. Total £2145. And I hadnt had a shag yrt.
Part 2 to follow after a short interlude for a few beers. My throat is as dry as a nuns pussy.
10 days to go...
there's a thing i wanna see is a Tochka lineup, there are Tochka in SPB? and if so also during the cold winter? i read about apt, salons, sauna, and night club , but nothing about Tochka
can you help me?
Matteo77:
There is no tochka in Pitr, at least not in an accessible sense like in Moscow. There is some street prostitution, but nothing you'd like to get involved with.
less then a week :-O
Just one week, and so many things to do, place to visit, and of course a lot of time is reserved for the Hobby !!!
I've read almost all post in the spb section, and i've some questions
1) I've read somewhere (spb or Msk forum) that you dont have to ask permission, you simply have to do what you want...., but i've also read a lot about CBJ and no BBBJ, so this is the question what is the standard service @photomodeli.ru or @magrib?
2) We'll need a "cicerone" i mean at least a girl that can help us visiting hermitage, the city of spb, Novgorod, Pushkin , Pavlovsk... do you know any nice looking Hostess?
3) I've a "crazy" idea, the nighttrain (or a internal flight) from spb to msk and return so we'll have a full day in Msk to see at least the kremlin, the red square , cathedral and ..., do you think it worth the stress?
As always i'll post detailed photo/report asap.
Matteo
CBJ vs. BBBJ:
There is no real standard, but nearly all girls I've met do BBBJ. The girls I have had were almost all of the take home type however and the rules seem to be a bit different there. In the salons some girls dont do BBBJ, since these girls are servicing several guys a day and likely are instructed by their madam to do CBJ and lower risks of getting some disease. Maybe Rovnak knows more, he's the St.Pete salon expert.
Visiting Moscow on a day trip:
Moscow is worth a trip, even if just for a day in my opinion... although that will be a very stressful day. It will be a very interesting contrast to St.Pete, the cities are really very different in mood, architecture, weather and people.
I personally prefer flying over riding the train, but perhaps in a group the train could be fun. Then again, it could also just be cold, drafty, cramped and stuffy as the trains usually are... :)
If you go to Moscow, I suggest flying... but that's just my personal opinion.
Matteo,
The "skorro poezd" (express train) from SPB to Moscow is not a bad option, actually. It leaves SPB late, around midnight and arrives in Moscow around 08:00, just in time to begin your day of sightseeing. If you will be staying in Moscow, it will save you the cost of a hotel room in SPB for the night that you will be travelling.
Make sure you get a private compartment, you don't want to be riding in steerage with the great unwashed. LOL Although that would have it's own charms as well. The private compartments, if nothing else, will be warm in the winter. They typically have two benches, against each wall, that can be converted into beds for sleeping. They're not luxurious, but comfortable.
Also, make sure to bring refreshments with you; vodka, ikrah, etc. If you can manage to persuade an SPB dyev (or two) to make the trip with you, then you have the perfect recipe for an evening of fun and frolic.
And that's something you can't do on the plane!
Dear Matteo,
Which country do you come from? I can't believe you want to be in shitty SPB in the winter. Watch your wallet in Russia, a country of thieves and pimps.
Yeah Matteo!
We better all watch out! St.Pete fucking sucks!
See you next week.
I'm from the freezing ITALY,
see ya doc
Your fotos as always are simply a knock-out for my poor body too long far from Heaven Russia...
P.S. Matteo and not only freezing but also Sex Prison full of selfish girls lol
so the D Day has come, we 're here sitting in the "so named" Alitalia Vip Lounge in malpensa airport !!!! crowded like a shopping center on the 24 dec :-))))
dont worry
i'll post all my dyev experience ,
and last but not least tnx to all info and help you shared witm me !!!
hello folks
this is the first quick rep (sorry no pic)
no tochka in SPB? ok lets try photomodeli lineup
we went in the salon in nevsky 63 that is 500 mt from our apt,
at 1 am there were at least 10/12 dyev some really nice
my friend took a tanny blond girl 165 cm h 22 years with at least a 4 of tits !!
mine was a 170 and a little bit shy !!!!! later i discovered why , yeasterday was her 2 day @work !!!!! thanks to my italian "savoir faire" i had a perfect gfe, with a lot of daty, fk, but NO BBBJ !!!!!! but in any case i'll meet her again
total due 6000 R for 2 hrs in our apt (taxi service included)
tonite big wsg meeting wit Doc and rovnack
see ya
Hy folks here is - 5° at least,
tue was the wsg meeting night in spb, Rovnack Doc and I plus my friend went first to Red Lion and then we moved to check the scene @magrib but it was almost "dead", so we decided to check out some salon, (i have to say to that Rovnack has to be honoured as the "Grand-Master of the brotherhood of all the former URSS"
He gave us at least 10 salon to check !!!!
So we started with domino just in front the Mc Donalds in nevsky prospect, 10 girls but nothing special so we moved to Photomodeli in nevsky 63 where doc took a nice red haired and i went for an Encore with the same girl of yesterday
Wend. Rov is now in prague !!! we met doc @magrib that was nice but my friend found nothing special so we decided to try Rovnack Bible.
Stremmanaya 4 has just 2 girls avaiable
Tried again dominio (see up) and i have to say again THANKS ROVNACK there were at least 15 girls we found our "object of desire" and after 15 min we all were in our apt
Yesterday we were too tired and we decided to pass for tonight
this is a little present for you (check out photo section)
Melania 18 half russian half corean
after a "chinese" dinner i decided to finish my oriental day with Melania
and the pick was right !!!!!
i got 2 BBBJ with CIM and CIF plus sex in all position, 20 min for a special photo book ..... what else can i say ???
damage
3000 rb + 300 rb tip
dont know nothing about tonight except that Rossi is closed and Magrib girls have raised the price to 200 € !!!!!! salon are THE best pick (value 4 money)
we have at least 5 other place to visit and just 3 nights left !!!!!
Hi Matteo,
Sounds like you're having a good time, in spite of the cold. ;)
If you go back to Domino, can you ask them if they changed the url of their web site? [url]www.dominogirls.com[/url] doesn't work anymore.
Am looking forward to your next report and to discover new places.
Jim
Hi Matteo!
Was fun to meet you and Rovnak. Rovnak really is THE salon expert and as Matteo correctly stated, salons are a very good cheap option in St.Pete. Quality of girl 5-8 at $100/2 hours.
My redhead Zhenya from "fotomodeli" was not pretty, but her body was rock hard, one of the best asses I've felt in a long time. She really got into it, determined to get me off as often as possible in our two hour session. She even gave the whole orgasm show, with the convulsive body shake and everything... I appreciated her effort... :)
Magrib was quite ok on Wednesday night, prices are $150 for a nice girl if you bargain. More average girls will still go for $100.
There are also internet-based independents asking around $100/2 hours.
Sorry to hear about Rossis, I actually went to a small student club on Thursday night with a Russian friend and met some really hot chicks. Just before I was about to go home alone (I was dog-tired) a sexy Kazakhi chick waiting in line for the toilet gave me this penetrating love-struck stare and after some brief small talk and some nice compliments sent her way by me we went back to her apartment about 15 minutes later for some early morning pokage.
i'm back in the sunny Italy, 15° today :-)
My first russian experience is finished vith sasha always from Domino girls.
Sat night was almost impossible to have a dyev in our apt, we visited 3 adress from the Rovnack Bible, but nothing special and really poor choice.
Sunday i visited again domino melania is on holiday till new year, my pick was Sahsa early 20' nice gilr , normal body...
She was a little shy and cold, but after the first 30 min, she turned to be a really nice girl and provided a good gfe.
Nothing more to say about my trip, except that i plan to come back to spb in mid feb,start of march (i'm starting a russina course this friday !!!)
Last but not least a big thanks to Rov and Doc.
PS i have a big favour to ask to all of you my "brother" i need someone to translate a letter from english to russian (i dont want to ask to translate that type of letter to my new russian teacher...), so if someone of our "russian" member read this , please PM me.
Sorry!
Yes its only typical strongarm business practice Russian
style to beat the competition. The 'gas' was used to
make the customers of the department store chain run
outside because it stinks so bad.
Anybody remember "Stink bomben"? 3 glass ampules
containing yellow liquid hydrogen sulfide sold in a small
white box in novelty shops in Germany back in the 1970's?
Instructions say, 'break it under your foot'. A friend from
junior high school brought back a bunch of them and we used
to use them to clear out the cafeteria or the auditorium as
a big joke, though the teachers weren't laughing, we were
hysterical until we got caught.
I used to go to Russia 4-5 years ago. Then I discoverd South America. Prices much cheaper there. A $100.00-150.00 in Russia! No way! Why fly all the way there and pay, hotel, air and high chick prices. You can have 3-4 four girls in South America for this. And you don't freeze your ass off. Stop paying these ridiculous prices.
I'm not one to get into big arguments about pricing. I believe in paying higher for higher quality. Its about value.
I don't know why you want to come in here and start an argument. The pricing in Russia is very very rigid. Most web sites list prices and they range from 1500R (about $55/hr) for lower quality to 3000R/hr for premium. This is the way it is. Negotiated pricing in the nightclubs is different but the selection is very limited there.
I'm familiar with South America, Brazil in particular, so I know the pricing. Sure you can get REAL cheap lays in S. America, but in Rio or Sao Paulo, for good girls, it can be as expensive or more so than Russia. When you add up the cost of admission, room and girl at a place like Bomboa its almost $200. For a thermas in Rio its over $100. My point is that the Russian six is not that much more expensive than Brasil.
You are correct that the mongering experience is not as good in Russia for a casual visitor when you add up the cost of hotels, the difficulty in finding good girls, the selection, the language problem. Yes, for pure mongering value South America is better.
But most guys coming to Russia are coming for business or because they like Russian girls. If they come for business all of your points about travel and hotel do not apply. And since they have to be in Russia, they might as well enjoy themselves.
If they prefer Russian girls then Russia is the best place. Its better than paying 2x for same girl in Prague. And you will not find great Russian girls in South America. So it depends what you are looking for.
Basically, your post is uncalled for, and out of line. Let the people who like South America go and be happy. But don't tell others they are stupid for not going there. Besides, if everyone goes to South America it will get more and more expensive which will be bad for those of us who love it.
Actually, I'm living in Russia, so your comments on hotel etc do not apply to me.
100 Pesos,
I've spent some time in Buenos Aires, but not Brazil. Met some Brazilian chicas in BA, so I know something about Brazil, if only by extension. And, everyone's been to TJ, claro que si!
There is one overriding reason to monger in Eastern Europe. If you're looking for sheer feminine pulchritude, slavic women have the rest of the world beat, hands down. IMHO.
Latin chicas are cute and fun with loads of personality, but I have yet to see one that I would rate more than an 8, in terms of looks, and those were club dancers in BA, who, for the most part are either unavailable, or, will cost you more than a 6 or a 7 in Moscow. Que lastima!
So, yes, latin chicas are cheaper, for a reason. You are getting what you pay for.
[QUOTE=Stravinsky]100 Pesos,
I've spent some time in Buenos Aires, but not Brazil. Met some Brazilian chicas in BA, so I know something about Brazil, if only by extension. And, everyone's been to TJ, claro que si!
There is one overriding reason to monger in Eastern Europe. If you're looking for sheer feminine pulchritude, slavic women have the rest of the world beat, hands down. IMHO.
Latin chicas are cute and fun with loads of personality, but I have yet to see one that I would rate more than an 8, in terms of looks, and those were club dancers in BA, who, for the most part are either unavailable, or, will cost you more than a 6 or a 7 in Moscow. Que lastima!
So, yes, latin chicas are cheaper, for a reason. You are getting what you pay for.[/QUOTE]I couldn´t agree more.
My country is full of brazilian girls and most of them are short, plump and not attractive at all.
At first sight they seem friendly, but they are well known for their cynism and hypocrisy always looking for gullible men to cheat an ripp-off.
Gentlemen,
Competition isn’t good for mongers. Oligopolies are quite better.
So we should agree Slavic women are the worst and most expensive in the world, ins’t it? In exchange, Africa, America, Asia are lovely places to succeed.
Anyway, everybody is free to choose according their taste.
Best regards.
[QUOTE=Stravinsky]100 Pesos,
I've spent some time in Buenos Aires, but not Brazil. Met some Brazilian chicas in BA, so I know something about Brazil, if only by extension. And, everyone's been to TJ, claro que si!
There is one overriding reason to monger in Eastern Europe. If you're looking for sheer feminine pulchritude, slavic women have the rest of the world beat, hands down. IMHO.
Latin chicas are cute and fun with loads of personality, but I have yet to see one that I would rate more than an 8, in terms of looks, and those were club dancers in BA, who, for the most part are either unavailable, or, will cost you more than a 6 or a 7 in Moscow. Que lastima!
So, yes, latin chicas are cheaper, for a reason. You are getting what you pay for.[/QUOTE]I take it that Stravinsky is not an ass man. Sure, Russian and EE girls are beautiful but they (generally) don't score well in the ass department.
If you prefer nice round booty with a small waist, then most latin women will fit the bill. I've been to Europe and Brazil and I must say - while Italy gets my vote for being the ass capital of Europe, Brazil wins the award for ass capital of the world! Plus (a big PLUS), Brazilan women, from personal experience, are by far the best performers in the sack.
So if you like your ass square and flat, then go to Russia/EE. Sure, there is some fine booty out there, but it is more the exception than the rule. Also, although I've had a few good experiences with EE girls, overall they were pretty lame performance-wise.
So it really depends on your physical taste in woman. If you like women from the front, go to Russia/EE. If you like women from the back, go to South America.
And if you want the best lay of your life, especially from P4P, go to Brazil!
-BB
No, Russian girls are seldom equipped with J.Lo asses, but they'd look damn silly with them. Big asses simply don't look good on white girls. That said, Russian girls have great shapely firm asses. Sure you'll find the bony kind too... but square asses they ain't. Its a world of hardbodies in Dyevland.
I don't really see the point in arguing though, both Brazilian and Russian women are hot and know how to fuck... and obviously enjoy it as well. If you've had a poor performing Russian girl then I am sorry... most likely she was a long way away from home and hated her work, maybe even was forced to do it. Poor girl. If she's doing it out of her own free will though (or based on personal financial need and choice) she'll usually give 110%. Of the pros I've had about 70% performed really well, 20% were average and 10% were poor performers and obviously disliked their work and the kind of men they served. That's not bad odds for P4P. In fact, the 10% "poor performers" may be exaggerated... I can only recall 2 or 3 at all that were REALLY lousy... I tend to think some of the other poor performances were due to ME and my lousy attitude on a particular night, my drunkeness or whatever.
The amount spent doesnt make a difference on performance, but I tend to find that the middle price range performs best... ultra cheap and overly expensive usually feed markets which dont promote or reward well-performing girls... the super cheap to cheapskates and drunkards and the overly expensive to the uninformed, the stupid and the helpless business traveller who will fuck anything superficially attractive at any price.
As for general pricing, Russia might be more expensive than some other places, but doesnt have to be ridiculously so. If you can't afford $100 to get laid, then you'd be better off somewhere else.
DS,
I've seen a few nice booties on EE girls and they looked great!!! Very rare though. Here's an example of some big booty on a white girl - proportion is everything!
[url]http://www.hotside.com.br/01656/xxx.htm[/url]
In EE, you are more likely to run into Paris Hilton booty - if you can call it booty. Thank god many of them make up for it with nice legs!
I hope you are correct regarding performance. The only Russian girls I've experienced have been in the CR, Amsterdam, and Spain. But I hope to visit the motherland soon. BTW, In Spain I had both an EE girl and a Brazilian - the Brazilian won in a landslide ;-) I also consider Spain to be neutral ground, thus my opinion.
And $100 for great sex with a hot girl is not expensive.
-BB
If big shapely asses are your thing, then Russia really isnt ideal. You are right, youll get more Paris Hilton than J.Lo.
One notable exception are the tall girls, sometimes they have the most fantastic pillow-like asses which are neither flabby or bony… pure joy.
Generally speaking though, thin girls are more common and the legs are to die for. Doesnt mean the asses are bony in Russia or EE, they are really well proportioned... but definitely not what you would call big or real booty. And I dont think Russian girls even know what cellulite is… I cant recall the last time I even saw it. Honestly, I swear it doesn’t exist in EE. Russian girls are obsessed with taking care of their bodies and mother nature has made it easy for them.
BTW your Russian Claudia looks like she has a nice ass, but I remain by my contention that big asses don’t look good on white chicks. This Claudia would be considered fat by most Russian girls…. I have had a couple of bigger assed girls in EE and since they were young, their asses were really solid... great performers... but this body type isnt as common as the skinny type.
As for Russian girls performance in places in Europe or elsewhere, its mixed. For example in German FKKs Ive had both great Russian girls and really atrocious ones… the hit rate for top performers was considerably higher in Russia and Ukraine percentage wise.
The Brazilian girls Ive had in German FKKs were also all good performers.
I enjoy the mix… Slavic girls, Latinas, Germans, Thais… but in the end I still prefer EE girls. Missing on my to do list are Japanese, French, Mexican, Argentinian… I have a lot of fucking left to do…
Doc,
Don't get me wrong. As I said, there are so many beautiful women in EE. But out of all the girlies that I have had - Japanese, Korean, Vietnamese, Mexican, Russian, Czech, Gypsy, Slovakian, Italian, American, Canadian, Puerto Rican, Dutch, Spanish, Hungarian, Bulgarian, Swede, and Brazilian, it's the Brazilian women that linger in my mind just about every day. The combination of those amazing bodies and their love of fucking and sucking just makes me melt. I can't wait to go back (although I am tempted to make a stop in Colombia on the way).
BTW, that link was actually a white Brazilian girl. There must be something in the water down there because you rarely find ass like that on a white girl anywhere else.
And I do agree about one thing: You can bounce a quarter off of those European asses. They definitely are nice and firm.
But I do somewhat disagree about the cellulite comment. I can't really speak for Russia, but after spending some time at the Prague public pool one summer, I was amazed at the number of women who had cellulite. I'm not talking about the older women. There were woman who were young and thin and yet, they had cellulite! Must be a result of growing up on those tasty Czech sausages (no pun intended). Hopefully this is only a regional phenomenon.
I will try to make a run on Russia or Ukraine this summer. Perhaps I need some more experiences to change my preference. BTW, if you really want to see some fine examples of Russian/EE beauties, try to find a copy of the April 2005 Vanity Fair. No, I don't read that shit, but while waiting for a connecting flight, I noticed the cover in an airport bookstore. Had a whole article with photos of up and coming EE models. Wow, these women were perfect examples of EE 9's & 10's. But there was one photo that backed up my ass opinion. If you find the mag, you'll know what I mean -
Paris Hilton, anyone?
-BB
Regarding my last post's reference to the Apr 05 Vanity Fair, I just happend to find this link! Enjoy!
[url]http://www.vanityfair.com/features/outtakes/050307feou[/url]
-BB
I will weigh in here as an avowed fan of shapely asses. I prefer the classic Brasileira looks - small natural titties, tiny waist and big round bunda. Ah, there is nothing like that look in the world.
Now you can find lookers all over. I even found a Thai girl in Singapore that had a J-Lo booty, and a gorgeous Thai face. This was like a 4 leaf clover.
In Russia you can find some nice butts. Not bubble butts but nice firm tooshies. Like in this photo:
[url]http://www.kisski.ru/Intim/photos/p788_5.jpg[/url]
I think even the biggest Brazil booser will admit there is some decent padding there, and the (key) waist to ass ratio is very good.
Here is another, and I can personally attest to the veracity of these photos. Outstanding body, world class:
[url]http://www.kisski.ru/Intim/photos/p1029_5.jpg[/url]
While Brasil is still "the place" for nice booty, I have actually seen a larger number of shapely butts in Russia than I expected, and see no reason to complain.
[QUOTE=Rovnak]In Russia you can find some nice butts. Not bubble butts but nice firm tooshies. Like in this photo:
[url]http://www.kisski.ru/Intim/photos/p788_5.jpg[/url]
I think even the biggest Brazil booser will admit there is some decent padding there, and the (key) waist to ass ratio is very good.[/QUOTE]You should better go to Budapest if you want to meet her, this is hungarian (former ?) pornstar Henriett : [url]http://www.eurobabeindex.com/sbandoindex/henriett.html[/url] and [url]http://www.modelshrines.com/models/h/heni.shtml[/url].
They even have forgotten to remove the watermark "Ebinamodels" on this one : [url]http://www.kisski.ru/Intim/photos/p788_2.jpg[/url]. Original photos here : [url]http://www.ebinamodels.com/magazine/kat/index.php[/url]
But still good example of nice white butt :)
[QUOTE=Rovnak]
Here is another, and I can personally attest to the veracity of these photos. Outstanding body, world class:
[url]http://www.kisski.ru/Intim/photos/p1029_5.jpg[/url][/QUOTE]Damn, that second photo was amazing. I seriously hope that Russian women with asses like that have self-image issues. That'll make getting booty like that easier and cheaper. On the other hand, in Brazil she'd be considered prime meat and thus command a prime price.
-BB
That's fantastic booty in those links Rovnak!
As for viewing quality EE poon, I have found the best in Perfect10 magazine, especially the older issues. The majority of the girls are from EE, all natural, all hot as bricks.
[url]www.perfect10.com[/url]
BB:
You come to EE, I'll go to Brazil and afterwards we can meet in a German FKK to compare notes.... :)
Sounds good, Doc.
That just may be possible after this summer. I'll keep you posted.
To conclude my part in this ass discussion, being that this thread has drifted away from SPB tales (or tails), I would just like to say that I like my asses like I like my tits - round, smooth, not too soft, not too firm, not too big, and not too small. For me, it's more about shape than size. And a small waist is a must!
So just to show you what I consider to be the perfect ass, click on this link and watch the video. When God created Eve, this is the ass he gave her :)
[url]http://www.ifilm.com/ifilmdetail/2669018[/url]
BTW, if you're wondering, Argentine.
-BB
Good find Dant75. That lifted photo was from the Moscow branch of the kisski site. It is always possible with Russian sites that the photos are lifted. I have seen SPB photos show up on Moscow sites and vice versa. And I guess in this case Hungarian photo.
The SPB branch of kisski site however, I can personally attest to most if not all of those photos being local SPB girls. And the brunette that I linked in, I have spent time with her. She is quite proud of her hot body.
I have spent the last couple of nights at Magrib and have the following updated info to report.
The girls are now asking for a 500 ruble security fee. I got around it by meeting my girl outside the club. I asked a few girls and they told me they have to pay the security 500 rubles if they leave the club with a client.
I was there on a Wednesday and Thursday night and the club was only about 60% full. Many pros, including a couple of lookers... but nothing spectacular. The salons have the prettier girls in my opinion.
Prices vary wildly... Wednesday I took home an all-nighter for $100... great performance. Thursday I was getting laughable quotes of 200€! I left alone.
One point did disturb me... although the girls were all friendly, the were all seasoned pros... some of them I have seen several times before... they recognized me too... even though I was never a client of theirs. Seems to me that there is little or no semi-pro action there as there used to be in the past. Perhaps it is the season... it is fucking cold in Pitr now...
200 Euros !!! Hard to leave alone I guess but you did well to pass.
I was wondering which do you think is the best salon at the moment? Is it your style/favourite as well?
JD
JD:
I have never paid 200 € in my life, so I wasnt about to do it then. If I am going to blow that kind of cash it is going to be for a stripper or something more trophy-like, but not for a seasoned pro at a pickupbar. It really is kind of a silly policy of mine considering I dont mind blowing 100€ on drinks and sushi... but am too cheap to fork out 200€ for a pro in a club which has girls that will go for as little as $100... I just dont like to have the feeling that I am being taken for a chump. That said, the girl that wanted 200€ was really friendly, possessed exotic Tatar features and was quite leggy and I am sure she is good at what she does. After we cordially parted ways, I did see her leave the club with a customer... so she scored with somebody who was willing to fork out the big bucks.
Salons are a great value, I've been to a few. Rovnaks guide in the Reports of Distinction section covers most of the bases... he is far more in tune with that scene than I... but I was very happy with the Photomodeli girls I have had.
Rossi:
The Rossi club is alive and although the music really sucks... techno remixes and russky rok... last night was quite good, thankfully with almost no foreigners except for two young fellow Americans I eavesdropped on who went on for 10 minutes discussing hair loss, didnt they have anything better to do? :) Come on guys, get with the program, make our country proud, go out and get laid!
... I ended up having a fantastic night with a 42kg Kazakh cutie freebie, delicate Asian features, long straight black hair, soft voice, pencil-thin proportionally long legs, apple-sized round tits, shaved landing strip bush, wildly passionate in the sack... not sure if I deserve to get this lucky.... my second Kazakh girl in 2 days... I love their demeanor. So far my experience with Kazakh girls is you should just keep guiding them along and dont even ask if they will go home with you... just take them there.
WLAN:
A really nice place to surf WLAN is on the 9th floor restaurant in the Kempinski Moika 22 hotel, great view of the city. Its expensive as hell... 250 rubles for a beer... but its worth it if you like to surf net on your laptop in a pleasant quiet atmosphere. Despite the cold, St.Pete is gorgeous right now and a lot of fun.
Dr Shank is right, I was in magrib friday and average girls asked 200€. I laughed since I know that normal price is 100$. It seems that girls prefer 0€ than 100€! Well I hope not all of them.
Since I just arrived in SPB, where can I find great bars and clubs with non profs? sbassiba
[QUOTE=Logan2000] sbassiba[/QUOTE]Spasibo :-)
[QUOTE=Bladrunr]Hello All,
Longtime lurker, first time poster. I've been to Ukraine several times, but not Russia. Looking to travel to SPB this Thanksgiving (yeah, family sucks; what about it. So looking for quick advice:
1. Reputable marriage agencies?
2. Great apartments to stay at?
3. Never seen this website on any ISG post:
[url]www.badrussiangirls.com[/url]
Any experiences with this site?
Thanks,
Peace[/QUOTE]Spent a week in freezing Moscow in January.
Tried [url]www.badrussiangirls.com[/url] among others, did work good for me.
Is it hard to find the places on Nevsky Pr. Cause I have been currently looking around on the boards and it seems that the salons are hidden nice and the administrators will only help u when ur directly infront of the place. hmm
Anywho, i picked up a mag of the Photodeli.RU from a taxi driver was wondering if the girls in the pics are from the salons that are stated online. If so, I am by Bolkhina pr. and it seems to my understanding that (in english) the salon Salon
Large Monetary is around here. Like on Kamennoostrovskiy the rest, 24
, st. of the metro "Petrograd" anyone have any experience from this place? I would call but speak very little and Bad Russki.
Plus, I seen the places that were recommended on Neveski like Dominos?? Hard to find?
Hello,
I am new to the boards, and first time in Russia.
Where is a good place to start looking for some fun? Anyone know where this salon is at? Large monetary? Thats the name in English I guess.
Hi Guy 510,
Since you are a newbie, don't take it bad : you can find many information on photomodeli using the search function, including my reports :
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=384012&highlight=photomodeli#post384012[/url]
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=384746&highlight=photomodeli#post384746[/url]
Yes, the photos are real but sometimes a little enhanced (photoshop). There are also many girls that are not on their printed catalogue, unfortunately not always the most good looking. Photomodeli addresses are no more publicly available on their website, but the old version is still online and you can find the adresses on my second report ;) All you have to learn in russki is "Zdrastvuite. Ya na ulitse ou salona. Pajalousta vstretite minia" : "Hello. I'm in the street in front of the salon, please meet me".
Bolchaya Monetnaya (Large Monetary) is their top salon, 2500 rbl / 1 hour, 3500 rbl / 2 hours. It's just above Kamennoostrovskiy 24. So if you don't find what you want, just go upstairs or downstairs. Other salons elsewhere in the center or near the center. Highly recommended !
After a long time, I'm back to SPB and I'm into Salons and massage parlors, but my favorite one doesn't exist anymore! :-(
Can someone tell me the actual good saloons?
Thanx
Oatis and Guy, - see private message from me.
Hell, salons from last month don't exist or have relocated. Its a byzantine world. They have so many freaking number games going its impossible to track. I need a supercomputer.
I will agree, the photomodeli photos are VERY enhanced. In fact the only 2 photomodelis that I have seen that I liked in person were never photographed. That photographer is a champ.
in addition to photomodeli here are my preferred links
Here are urls, lots of overlap
salons and indies
[url]http://www.amurspb.ru/agencies/[/url]
[url]http://www.amurspb.ru/sex/girls/individual/[/url]
a colleciton of managed apartments - pricey but some lookers
[url]http://www.kisski.ru/Intim/citytr.php?citytr=%D1%E0%ED%EA%F2-%CF%E5%F2%E5%F0%E1%F3%F0%E3&tr1=checked&maxThr=200&submit=%CF%EE%EA%E0%E7%E0%F2%FC[/url]
not as many hotties as kisski, but lower priced collection of salons.
[url]http://www.intimspb.ru/[/url]
[url]http://www.spbgirls.ru/index.php[/url]
classic SPB story. A few months ago, I went to check out a nice dev. She had better than average booty. I saw her in her apartment. After sex we chat, I say, I like to do photos and she says she likes to pose. We exchange numbers.
About a month ago, she calls me and asks me to do some photos of her. I say "free sex?" She says yes. I say ok. We do two sessions of photos, 1 session of free sex. She uses my photos in her on line ads. Cool.
This week she sends me new messages. Wants new photos. I say "fee sex?" She says "Yes." I say "ok". We were going to do last night but i canceled since I thought i had a date lined up. It fell thru, different story.
This morning she messages me "Photos today?". I say "ok". She says "10:30".
So its noon and I'm thinking "Ok, i can get some free sex tonight, but I am a bit horny since last night fell through. Maybe I should look for some afternoon fun, and I will be ready again tonight"
I scan through the recent ads and my todo list to see who I might check out. I see some photos for a dev that I think "probably fake fotos, but its on my way to fitness center. I decide on three pronged strategy ... first swing by this new apartment and check out what I think are probably fake photos, but maybe hot girl anyway. If NG, then onto photomodeli i have not yet visited. If NG then fitness center.
So I find my way to this new apartment, climb the 6 stories, knock on the door and who answers? The same freaking chick that is supposed to come to my apartment for photos tonight!!! I mean, there must be 500 devs in SPB. There must be 100 apartments. And here I run into the same dev that I know under entirely different circumstances and is planning to visit me tonight for photos and free sex!! And there I am knocking on apartment door expecting to find entirely different dev that I am willing to pay. WTF?
Turns out, I was right the fotos were fake. I guess she is using my fotos for her indy ads and using fake fotos for her pimped apartment work, or some such thing. I can't freaking figure it all out. Needless to say I did not stay and pay for what I am supposed to get free later. As I am leaving she says "I call u later". Small city.
So I trot off to see Photomodeli on Nevsky 162. Two floors of *****s. Both priced very low - 1500/hr or 2000/2 hrs. On one floor I saw 2 girls that were both very doable by my high standards. On the other floor I saw 1, and I took her back to my apartment for 2 wild hours. Very, very good value. I do not understand the photomodeli pricing model. I think it is based on real estate more than on quality of girls. The high end modeli runs 2500/hr and others 2000/hr and this one i went to 1500/hr. But the talent level of girls is comparable at all of them. They all have a bunch of stinkers, some average and a few hotties. Maybe the high end places have better average, but the top girls in the low end places are just as good as the top elsewhere. I think it must be based on location and quality of rooms more than girls. Never made it to fitness center.
Rovnak, it depends what you call slightly or very enhanced. For me slightly enhanced means that you can recognize them without any doubt but they are a little less beautiful than on photo, usually larger hips and smaller breasts. Very enhanced means that you really wonder if it is the same girl. Many escort or salon agencies enhance their photos, even fashion magazine do it and movie stars don't always look glamourous in real.
I have seen personally 12 girls from Photomodeli printed catalogue (August 2005), didn't sleep with all of them but met them in the lobby. I can tell honestly that 5 of them had accurate photos (maybe apart from the make-up), 5 had slightly enhanced photos, and 2 had heavily enhanced photos.
About the girls that are still currently on their website [url]http://www.photomodeli.ru[/url] (there's a big turn-over) :
Accurate : Dacha (Kamennoostrovskiy), Mila (Bolchaya Monetnaya), Mira (Nevskogo Palaca), Aida (Suvorovskom)
Slightly enhanced : Nastya (Bolchaya Monetnaya), Oksana (Bolchaya Monetnaya), Milena (Nevskogo Palaca), Marianna (Marata)
Compared to many others, I think that Photomodeli is rather honest with photos. And yes, the quality of girls has little to do with different prices from their different apartments. Sometimes they move to another apartment. I had my best experience for 2000 rbl / 2 hours. Interesting story about the free dyev. I am curious about who is it and which girl in Nevsky 162 you took (PM me if you want !).
i am becoming a bigger fan of photomodeli. agree that they are better than most. at least all of their photos are original which is more than can be said for anyone else. adminstrators are also ok, though the marata 22 was very bitchy to me on my only visit there.
my opinions originally were less good, since my first visit to kam, high end, was a dissappointment - only girl with bad hygeine i've seen in spb. and the girls i was always interested in seeing were never there when i visited.
in last month i have have had 3 very good experiences though. so i am warming up to them
i am still very interested in getting a peek at the following. have not been able to see them live
Каменноостровский пр.
sabrina
natasha
bolchaya monetnaya
mila - dant says accurate.
kristina
dana
vika - vikas photos are best imho, but i recall a report from someone months ago saying "a brunette vika" was dissappointment. not sure if same vika. definitely not same photos as previous vika photos, but might be new photos of same girl. i think they are since vika is not listed as a "new dev" in photomodeli "new devs" section.
diana - hot but cannot see face
nevsky palace
diana - hot but cannot see face
marata
elena - hot but cannot see face
lina
suvorovskom
vika - photos have been around forever. cannot see face.
stare nevsky 1
rita
stare nevsky 2
mariana - can't really see face
lana - can confirm photos acccuate.
Hi guys,
Thanks all of you for your usefull contributions!
Next week I will be spending some days in SPB, and while I was reading many of the reports here, I also saw the website [url]http://www.putana.nu/[/url]. Many very nice ladies on the site, and quite some usefull info. Does anyone of you have an experience with girls from this site?
Ciao.
the girls on putana are basically the same as on the other SPB sites. The same photos, the same numbers. Its not really about the site. It comes down to whether the photos are accurate, or bait and switch. If the photos look like they were taken in a studio, they are probably fake. If they look like they are at the beach or outside they are probably fake. If the girl is in a run down looking apartment, they are probably real fotos.
Best combination for a good thing is a lousy photograph of a pretty girl.
Sometimes the photos are fake but the real girl is still attractive. She just does not want her photos out. Its a total crap shoot. I can probably tell you who is real and who is fake, but it comes from a lot of scouting.
The only guaranteed photos of the real girls are photomodeli, some of the girls on kiskii, and some of the salon listings on amurspb.
Hello, friends!
I would like to present you the selection of Kiev (Peter, Moscow) prostitutes. All have quite normal pictures in their questionnaires, so you can make it out. Here is the selection itself:
Janet 25 (60$ for hour, 100$ for 2 hours, 200$ for night)
[url]http://www.destiny.com.ua/alimila[/url]
(7-812-972-12-26, 1500RUR for hour 2500RUR for 2 hours)
[url]http://www.destiny.com.ua/likaaa3000[/url]
(8-911-242-36-00, 3000RUR for hour)
[url]http://www.destiny.com.ua/magda555[/url]
(8-921-780-60-84, 1500RUR for hour)
[url]http://www.destiny.com.ua/tetka01[/url]
(8-905-222-35-66, 1800RUR for hour)
[url]http://www.destiny.com.ua/gannetta1[/url]
(8-904-332-75-19, 1800RUR for hour)
[url]http://www.destiny.com.ua/wlada4[/url]
(8-911-176-13-13, 1800RUR for hour)
You have to be registered to see the big pictures. Registration is free and if you know what and where you should push it will take a couple of minutes. Just don't ask how much time it took for me :))
So, how to be registered:
1. Click on the word "Регистрация" (Registration) at the upper left.
2. If a questionnaire did not appear push the big green button named "Регистрация"(Registration).
3. Fill the questionnaire:
"Логин" = enter your login (try make your login longer so it won't be already occupied, but if is occupied the system will suggest to choose the other variant)
"Пароль" = password
"еще раз"(once again) = here you shall repeat your password
E-mail - well, you know what to do :))
"Ваше имя:"(Your name) - just enter your name here. Actually you can write here anything, but it should consist of one word.
"Ваш пол:"(Your sex) - choose your sex ("Мужской"(male)/"Женский"(female))
"Дата рождения:"(Date of birth) - enter any date, but you have to choose something
"Место жительства:"(Place of residense) - you also have to choose something here
"С кем бы вы хотели познакомиться?"(Who you would like to become acquainted with?) - choose with whom you wish to become acquainted :)) (choose "с девушкой" = with a girl)
"Код:"(Code) - enter a code on a picture
"Я принимаю условия, изложенные в Соглашении о предоставлении услуг"(I accept the terms specified in Agreement about the grant of services) - put a mark and push the button "Зарегистрироваться"(Register).
You will get an e-mail, where you will find a link for confirmation of registration. In principle you can confirm it if you still gonna look for the girlies here, otherwise your questionnaire will just be removed in a day.
Well that's all! Have fun!!! :)
Hi Alex!
Thanks for the nice links! Its actually the same database as love.mail.ru, which has been discussed here a few times before. Other "dating" services, also draw from the same database. On these dating sites, most girls are normal, but you can find the pros by looking for:
* their pictures/profile is outlined in pink
* Under purpose of meeting (Цель знакомствa) they list:
"Предлагаю интим за деньги" Offer intimate meeting for money.
*They may also list under material support (Материальная поддержкa) :
"Хочу найти спонсора" - I wish to find a sponser
Have you actually tried out any of the girls that were linked to, or are these just some that you have contacted?
No, I haven't tried personally, but my friend for whom I selected them, tried this one [url]http://www.destiny.com.ua/gannetta1/[/url]
And he was quite satisfied.
I have chatted with a couple of you already, thanks for being helpful and tolerant of a newbie here.
I have been to Russia 2 times (June 2003 and June 2004), both times travelling alone. The last trip I also made a side trip to Yaroslavl by plane (going) and train (returning) which was scary for multiple reasons.
I am back in July 2006, and my itinerary will include St Pb and Sochi/Rostov, but I also would like to hit Yaro, Perm and/or Tomsk if possible. My questions are thus:
1. Anyone going to be around during the month of July?
2. Anyone thinking of travelling to Russia during July and perhaps looking to cross paths or link up for part of the journey?
I dont speak the language, but appreciate the culture and the history of the country, in addition to the fantastically beautiful women of course!
Please reply or PM.
From my experience [url]http://www.bad-russian-girls.com/w23i6133.htm[/url] is worth trying, 1800rbl. (about 50 Eu) per hour, ph. 812 922 3560 in St. Petersburg.
Also, there was Masha in saloon on Sadovaya, cannot find profile page now, ph. 974 6304, absolutely stunning and loves sex (only 1600 rbl). Say hello from the German guy when you see her. Site worked well for me too, at least the top searches seem working.
I'm traveling with 3 friends to St. Petersburg for the first time a the beginning of May, and was hoping we could hire someone with experience in the night scene (clubs, salons, etc.) so that we can guarantee that we have the best time. We will be staying at the Petro Palace Hotel.
All suggestions appreciated!
Dave, I am in SPb now. From the newspaper, you can find a native English speaker guide. The number is +7-921 761 4236. I never use it before and hope it will help. The email is [email]spb_nights@yahoo.com[/email].
[QUOTE=Dave Carrera]I'm traveling with 3 friends to St. Petersburg for the first time a the beginning of May, and was hoping we could hire someone with experience in the night scene (clubs, salons, etc.) so that we can guarantee that we have the best time. We will be staying at the Petro Palace Hotel.
All suggestions appreciated![/QUOTE]
It doesn't work, and I can't speak or read Russian! HELP!!
[QUOTE=Dave Carrera]I'm traveling with 3 friends to St. Petersburg for the first time a the beginning of May, and was hoping we could hire someone with experience in the night scene (clubs, salons, etc.) so that we can guarantee that we have the best time. We will be staying at the Petro Palace Hotel.
All suggestions appreciated![/QUOTE]I troll for translators on bride/dating sites.
Many sites have a category for "occupation" or at least English level.
Search for interpreter, translator, student, teacher, whatever.
Then just pitch the likely candidates with an offer to earn extra money as a translator. Lots of them are freelancers.
In my case, I was also looking for someone who would use her talented tongue for other purposes as well, so it was a tougher search, but I did find a Kiev cutie who will translate all day for $50 and speak the language of love at night for another $50 plus some shopping. This struck me as a good deal, especially since the first $50 is a legitimate business expense!
But if you are not asking her for sex, it should be much easier to find a local cutie to be your personal guide and interpreter. You should be able to find someone who knows the club scene but maybe not the seamier side of the city. Obviously some girls will not want to pimp for you, but others won't mind, they are not going to be offended by what you are doing like women back home would be. For that matter, she may even have girlfriends who would like to meet you!
As a minimum you go into every setting with an attractive woman in your group, so you don't look like you are desperate or losers. And the best case is she will join in the party if she is having a good time!
The downside is this takes some time and investment in membership fees.
I use Elenasmodels.com which seems to be a fairly credible site, but there are lots of others that might be even more suitable.
Good luck!
GT
I will be in St Petersburg during may 14-20 and am looking for action near nevsky 90. I have read all the reports on here and thinking about going to Magrib. Hope its close by. If any one has suggestions for action near nevsky 90 it would be much appreciated. I liked magrib because I can see the girl first, rather than an escort company. Any sws around or are they hideous. I will post on my findings when I return.
I will be heading to Moscow on May 7th after 3 days in St. Petersburg; I will be staying in the Hyatt in Moscow and the Novotel in St Pete. Any recommendations for guaranteed first closs mongering would be very appreciated. I will be traveling with 3 friends, and we all have our own rooms or suites.
I really could use guidance or a guide while there to be able to maximize the club, banya, and salon scenes...HELP!
Dave
Hi,
Actually I'm SPB and looking for some action in a Salon or Massage Parlor. Can anybody give me an adress? All the webpages are in russian and I can't read russian at all.
Last time I was in some nice private appartments with a couple of girls and always had fun, but now all my know appartments are not existing anymore. :-(
Exact addresses are not publicly available, certainly for safety reasons. You have to phone them to get the address and then call again to get the apartment number or the mamochka meet you downstairs.
[b]Photomodeli :[/b]
Kamennoostrovkiy 24 (Petrograd) : (812)941-1400; 955-1800
Kamennoostrovkiy 24 (Bolchaya Monetnaya, Petrograd) : (812)995-2929; 991-0068
Nevskiy 63 (Nevskogo Palaca, center, near Nevsky Palace Hotel) : (812)948-6200
Marata 22 (center, near Mayakovskaya metro) : (812)965-1515, 914-01-03
Nesvkiy 95 (Suvorovskom, near Vosstania) : (812)931-6161
Nesvkiy 162 (Straronevskom, end of Nesvky Prospect) : (812)947-4100 (first salon); (812)958-1118 (second salon just upstairs)
Efimova 1/4 (near Sennaya) : (812)998-3333; 951-6200
Gorokhovaya (near Sennaya) : (812) 946-20-46, 954-1001
(see [url]http://www.photomodeli.ru/index_html.php?action=salon[/url] and my reports [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=384012&postcount=465]part 1[/url] and [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=384746&postcount=472]part 2[/url])
[b]Domino :[/b]
[url=http://amurspb.ru/agencies/agencies/41/]Domino L (Chernyshevskaya)[/url] : 973-34-19
[url=http://amurspb.ru/agencies/agencies/38/]Domino B (Vladimirskaya / Dostoevskaya)[/url] : 972-32-02
[url=http://amurspb.ru/agencies/agencies/5/]Domino C (Petrograd)[/url] : 972-38-37; 974-44-03
(didn't go there but seems good)
[b]Emmanuelle :[/b]
[url=http://amurspb.ru/agencies/agencies/13/]Mayakovskaya / Vosstania[/url] : 974-35-05; 973-98-28
[url=http://amurspb.ru/agencies/agencies/14/]Vladimirskaya / Dostoevskaya[/url] : 970-14-44; 974-65-95; 973-97-87
(didn't go there but seems good)
[b]Other salons :[/b] [url]http://amurspb.ru/agencies/[/url]
[QUOTE=Dant75] You have to phone them to get the address and then call again to get the apartment number or the mamochka meet you downstairs.
[/QUOTE]
What are the odds of getting someone to answer who can understand and give directions in English?
[QUOTE=etaoin2003]What are the odds of getting someone to answer who can understand and give directions in English?[/QUOTE]
This can be an issue because Mamochka speaks often only russian. But they also often have a girl who speak some english and who can guide you.
If you already know the address (like Photomodeli salons), go there and call with mobile or telephone card. If nobody speaks english, try to learn those words :
[i]"Zdrastvuite. Ya na ulitse ou salona. Pajalousta vstretite minia"[/i] : "Hello. I'm in the street in front of the salon, please meet me".
If you want to call before and check who is working : [i]"Zdrastvuite. Segodnya Yest Ira ? Yest Masha ? Yest Natasha ? ..."[/i] : "Hello. Today is there Ira ? ...", pronounce Segodnya a little like Seevodnya.
Best thing about salon is that you will pay the same price as russians : english speaking or not speaking girl, beautiful or ugly, the price is the same for everybody in the salon.
Thanx a lot Dant75!
i'll try to check out as much as possible!
[QUOTE=Dant75]Exact addresses are not publicly available, certainly for safety reasons. You have to phone them to get the address and then call again to get the apartment number or the mamochka meet you downstairs.
[b]Photomodeli :[/b]
Kamennoostrovkiy 24 (Petrograd) : (812)941-1400; 955-1800
Kamennoostrovkiy 24 (Bolchaya Monetnaya, Petrograd) : (812)995-2929; 991-0068
Nevskiy 63 (Nevskogo Palaca, center, near Nevsky Palace Hotel) : (812)948-6200
Marata 22 (center, near Mayakovskaya metro) : (812)965-1515, 914-01-03
Nesvkiy 95 (Suvorovskom, near Vosstania) : (812)931-6161
Nesvkiy 162 (Straronevskom, end of Nesvky Prospect) : (812)947-4100 (first salon); (812)958-1118 (second salon just upstairs)
Efimova 1/4 (near Sennaya) : (812)998-3333; 951-6200
Gorokhovaya (near Sennaya) : (812) 946-20-46, 954-1001
(see [url]http://www.photomodeli.ru/index_html.php?action=salon[/url] and my reports [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=384012&postcount=465]part 1[/url] and [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=384746&postcount=472]part 2[/url])
[b]Domino :[/b]
[url=http://amurspb.ru/agencies/agencies/41/]Domino L (Chernyshevskaya)[/url] : 973-34-19
[url=http://amurspb.ru/agencies/agencies/38/]Domino B (Vladimirskaya / Dostoevskaya)[/url] : 972-32-02
[url=http://amurspb.ru/agencies/agencies/5/]Domino C (Petrograd)[/url] : 972-38-37; 974-44-03
(didn't go there but seems good)
[b]Emmanuelle :[/b]
[url=http://amurspb.ru/agencies/agencies/13/]Mayakovskaya / Vosstania[/url] : 974-35-05; 973-98-28
[url=http://amurspb.ru/agencies/agencies/14/]Vladimirskaya / Dostoevskaya[/url] : 970-14-44; 974-65-95; 973-97-87
(didn't go there but seems good)
[b]Other salons :[/b] [url]http://amurspb.ru/agencies/[/url][/QUOTE]
Does anybody know if the massage parlor in "Barmaleeva street 9" and the appartment with some girls at "Newsky 128" still exist?
Thanx a lot.
A lesson in futility:
There are days were everything goes perfectly. Meet a girl. Feel some connection. Thoughts and feelings metamorphisize into a chain of events that leave you happy, satisfied and feeling like you are king of the world… or at the very least, momentarily king of your own sexual destiny. This can happen with a pro, a freebie or anything in between...
There are however other kinds of days…
Like last Sunday.
With Sunday drawing to a close and my impossibly cute but aggravatingly innocent, shy and virginal date having scurried off alone into the metro after giving me a single worthless peck on the cheek, I pondered my options. I had a long list of internet pro contacts, plus the truly quality option of going to either the Fotomodeli or Domino salons for 2 hours of fun at the bargain price of $100, so it should have been reasonably easy for me to spend my final night in St.Pete in the comfort of my own apartment and in the arms of a lovely Russian lady/girl/woman. But I was in the mood for something new, and besides that I wasn’t really in the mood to go to a salon. Going to a salon was too habitual and seemed too simple. Too easy.
So despite my best intentions, I decided to go to that notorius pickup bar that everybody knows and most avoid...Tribunal. As they say, curiousity killed the cat.
How do you spell trouble?
“T-R-I-B-U-N-A-L” and “M-A-Y-A”
I hate Tribunal. I have always hated that place. I cant recall ever having a decent experience there. Sure the strippers are ok. The beer, although overpriced, is still beer. It is next door to Red Lion, a place that isn’t bad, especially as a starter to a long night. But Tribunal and Doc Skank just don’t mix. I really should have known better. In fact, I really DO know better…. But still…
I had hoped this time would be different. Last time I was there, together with Rovnak, I had met a quite homely (that is a nice way to say unattractive) MILFish central Asian looking chick with a lot of energy and an aggressive approach to the business.
Now everybody who has ever been to TRIBUNAL must know this chick, who goes by the name Maya and is fairly short and quite slender, and with an admittedly rock hard ass. She literally throws herself at every guy that comes there and doesn’t pretend to be there for any reason other than her job. She approaches this aspect with a refreshing openness and honesty, which I respect. She seemed professional in the good sense of the word, and that is just what I wanted on this evening. Not pretty… but professional and energetic. This was exactly what I was looking for.
Having entered the club and taking a look around, I didn’t spot much talent there at all, but then again I have personally rarely seen anything really special there. Nonetheless I couldn’t be bothered to try any other place, since I had a 0930 business meeting and planned on calling it a fairly early night. I was on a snatch and grab mission. Get in, get the package and get out.
Maya made the first part of my mission easy, as she ran up to me like a heat-seeking missile and latched all over me. Within 5 minutes we had left the building, agreeing on $150 for a few hours.
Some my ask why I chose her, a question I in fact ask myself now, but I was sold on her advertising. I expected her, a seasoned and energetic pro, to put on a quality performance, to suck cock BBBJ with energy and spirit, to bone all night and leave in the morning when I asked without any silly commentary or attitude. A non-complicated fuck. Besides that, I felt $150 was a more than fair price and that she would put in some extra effort. After all, in my opinion she was a 6 at best, although her body clearly rated a bit higher, her face was ... well, I wont say anything because to say something woudl simply be impolite.
But I wasn’t really interested in a younger, prettier girl. I have enough of those already. For some odd reason, I just wanted this aging pro, who I would guess to be 30ish, to satisfy me, and let me do my “worst” to her in that tochka sort of way. Somehow, stupidly, I even thought she'd be appreciative. My mistake. It was a stupid assumption.
After a stop for drinks, another good sign that the evening was going as planned, we went back to my apartment and got down to business.
That’s however when the evening went sour.
Maya seemed determined to get the deed over as quickly as possible and went straight for sex, not even pausing for a blow job. As a matter of fact, the whole mood was jeopardized early on even as we were touching each other and rolling around in the bed… while doing this she made me put on a condom. I asked her why and she said she didn’t want my dick, which was standing rock hard at attention, to touch her body at all.
HUH?
I have never heard this before. How was I going to enjoy this if even while petting and caressing I was wearing a condom? And more importantly, if she wasn’t going to let my dick even touch her body, she certainly wasn’t going to give me a BBBJ.
Things were not going well. When I touched her neatly trimmed and nice-looking pussy with my fingers she yelped and looked at me with “deer in the headlights” eyes… staring at me with a dumbfounded stare as if I’d cut off her right finger or told her Putin was gay. Touching her pussy was off limits too.
She didn’t do this, she didn’t do that… We were barely 30 minutes into the evening and I already wanted to kick her out and cut my losses.
But undaunted, we continued.
Maya insisted on having a drink, a vodka-orange, and the mood lightened a bit. Nonetheless, we spent much of the night arguing.
Maya couldn’t stop yapping in that childish self-righteous tone Russians have when they think they invented the wheel and are the only country on the planet that matters or has culture. This is an attitude typical of the communist generations, which made me further wonder just how old Maya actually was.
Maya’s theories:
· She doesn’t like to give blow jobs, because blow jobs are for homosexuals
· she “only” charged me $150 because she thought I was Finnish and that I would, like Finnish men do, be “finnished” in 5 minutes and she could then go back to Tribunal and get a second customer. If she had known I was American she would have charged more. Was that a compliment or an insult? I think a bit of both.
· Men who stay in apartments are cheap sex tourists. “Real men” stay in Astoria and other expensive hotels and don’t ask about money, they just give her whatever she wants. She said she only liked rich and clever men. I think she didn’t think I was either. I think she likes rich dumb men. My apartment seemed cheap to her. Some of the lights didn’t work. I explained to her it wasn’t MY apartment but rather like a hotel. She didn’t seem to understand this and kept talking about the poor condition of MY apartment, as if it was somehow beneath her.
· She claimed to make 5000 euro a month at Tribunal. She asked me if that was a lot of money. I told her that in the US, anything above 6 figures is considered good money. 5000 euro was ok money, but not considered “good money”, whatever that means. She couldn’t comprehend what I was talking about. I doubt her figure anyway. Assuming she works EVERY night, that means 166 Euros a night. No fucking way. Unless of course her other theory is true, that Russian men sometimes pay her 1000 Euros a night or even 200 Euros just to talk to her.
Uh huh.
Then why the fake designer goods and the cheap watch babe? If she really does make 5k Euro a month, it is a further demonstration of everything that is wrong with Russia. They simply have no concept of what money is. She certainly didn’t deserve anything close to that.
· She hates men. I believe her. The classic used up pro. Been fucked too much. Fucked around. Fucked over. Her energetic smile in the club was all fake. I should have known better.
And on and on.
Finally I decided to get it over with and coaxed her into giving me a blowjob, with condom of course. I really didn’t mind that, because by now I really wasn’t sure I wanted my dick in her mouth at all. She at least gave me a 20 second half-hearted CBJ that was more torture than pleasure and as it was getting late and I needed sleep, I decided to kick her out and told her I didn’t want to come and she should get her things and leave. I said this in a nice way, expecting her to be happy as most *****z would be. But this was the worst part. SHE WOULDN’T LEAVE!
She began an incoherent rambling about “my cheapness”…
Her: “why you so angry for money, give me $100 more and I make you come!”
Me: “I don’t want to come, I want to sleep. You can leave.”
Her, “why you don’t want me, what is wrong with me?”
Me: “Nothing is wrong with you, I just have to work and the morning and want to sleep”
Her: “Russian man give me more money and I stay. It is normal”
Me: “I gave you money and now I want you to leave… that is normal”
And on and on.
I give her a list of the 42 things she did wrong. Apparently her usual clientel isn’t very demanding as she thought even the simplest things were “extras”.
This went on for what seemed like hours… I kept telling her to put on her clothes and go, but she was determined to stay, clinging to me like some wild animal and putting her fake kisses all over my body and trying to coax me into fucking her . I am sure that her central motivation was to get more money out of me and not to satisfy me, but her behavior became so erratic that I really didn’t know what to think. I just wanted her out.
Finally at about 0730, a mere two hours before my morning business meeting, I got her to dress and leave, giving her a healthy tip she didn’t deserve… but was seemingly the only way to make her leave. Of course she complained about the tip, but it was really a large one. I took her to the street and she kept stopping me, begging me to go back inside and fuck her. I wasn’t sure if her female ***** pride had been hurt or if she hoped to get even more money out of me… but I just wanted her gone gone gone. Even on the street as she got her taxi, she was clinging to me, trying to kiss me and asking me why I didn’t want her.
What a disaster. I think she ranks nr.2 on my all-time list of worst pros ever.
It was so demoralizing for me, that I really feel it will be a long before I take another pro.
Just like a really great night with a pro can fuel your addiction for months and keeps you going back to try to capture the emotions of a perfect night, a really bad night like mine can make you feel cheap and used and somehow defeated, morally and spiritually.
As for me, I’ll just be on the lookout for some real affection for a while. I just don't know where to look.
Dr Skank, deepest sympathy/empathy for your dreadful ordeal, hope it never happens again!
Bois
Does somebody know if the massage parlor in "Barmaleeva street 9" and the appartment in "Nevsky 128" are still exist?
A literery work of Art!
But as you've probobaly shagged 3,000 women ( 2,997 more than me), my sympathy is limited.
Take an overall view.
[QUOTE=Doctor_Skank]·................Men who stay in apartments are cheap sex tourists. “Real men” stay in Astoria and other expensive hotels and don’t ask about money, they just give her whatever she wants.[/QUOTE]Sorry to hear what happened, Doc.
The comments she made is shared by many Russian pros and even some civies. I always wonder why they could be so unappreciative when they have so little money. I'll bet the "cheap apartment" you were staying is 10 times better than her apartment.
I really love Russian women, but when it comes to money issues all bets are off. I don't know what is wrong with some of them. Is it because they are so poor that it's ingrained in their minds, that they never want to be poor again? I don't know.
"Russian men give them money, it's normal (normalo)"
I heard this one also. Then why they all flock to foreign men if Russian men are so generous? If we are that cheap, why they still want to meet foreigners?
Thanks for sharing the story, Doc.
Doc,
The next time you come apart such a "sour babe" as that, just go nuclear, and threaten her with a back hand! Afterall, she is getting paid good money, and apparently is bitching about it! Once your displeasure with her mind numbing complaining has become apparent, she will refocus on a better quality performance, and purrr like a kitten.
PS: I was in the Tribunal Bar once last spring (2005), and had a blast there!
Tommasini
Wow Doc,
That is why I never set foot in that place. When I first moved to SPB in 2002 Tribunal and Marstalls were still in their heyday. Now the shuffle of doped out, worn out working girls in both places is just sad. What is even worse is the fact that these zombie pros have twice the attitude that they used to have. I wish that there was a place with the atmosphere of the old days with decent attitudes. I am still trying to get some time off and make a trip over. If anyone finds some decent spots let me know. Cheers and happy hunting.
Honored ISG Comrades!
Thanks for your words of support. Actually I think the rate of non- or poor performing pros in Russia is quite low, so I really only reported on Maya because I thought she was particularly awful and had a horrible attitude. I have had bad experiences before with others, but sometimes I think the lack of chemistry was my fault… drank too much, bad mood or something like that. But in this case, it was all her… and she had the audacity to keep trying to milk me for even more money. What a bitc€….
CharlieH:
“The comments she made is shared by many Russian pros and even some civies. I always wonder why they could be so unappreciative when they have so little money.”
Some pros do make quite decent money, but that is still no excuse to make comments like “$150 is no money” and then symbolically blow the $150 into the wind, which is what Maya did. I realize that you don't "buy a girl" for any amount of money, you just buy their time... but I really hate it when they assume that what you have given them, whether $100, $150 or $300, is "nothing". It is a business deal and they should keep their end of the deal.
Paradoxically, the salon girls, who often work harder than escorts and bar girls, generally earn less and would be very happy to see any type of decent tip.
“I really love Russian women, but when it comes to money issues all bets are off. I don't know what is wrong with some of them. Is it because they are so poor that it's ingrained in their minds, that they never want to be poor again? I don't know. “
There is definitely some truth to that, although their relative poverty is hard to judge. Many Russian girls, pros or otherwise, simply aren’t that poor anymore. Russia is becoming a caste system and this type of girl will do anything to climb the social and economic ladder. Perhaps it really is partially survival instinct and they never want to be poor again, although I am sure there are many other cultural factors involved. Its also one of the few countries were I really feel that the rich hate the poor, and the poor will do anything to escape this stigma.
”I heard this one also. Then why they all flock to foreign men if Russian men are so generous? If we are that cheap, why they still want to meet foreigners? “
They certainly don’t all flock to foreigners, at least not any more. Being a foreigner in upper level Russian clubs is not an inherent advantage with many girls. They are interested in money, security, long-term relationships and fun. In most cases, a foreign tourist can offer them only two of those four factors... money and fun. And there are plenty of Russian guys who can give them that as well. It is getting harder and harder for average-incomed Westerners/foreigners to access really upper class women... especially if you are only in the country for a few days. If you spend a long time in the country or even live there, of course you can access a whole new level of girl. That's just natural. Money is something that plenty of Russian men have and as we all know, women follow money. In the 90’s it was perceived that foreigners were all rich and “a better catch” than Russians and for many Russian women, getting a foreign man was a way to escape poverty. These days I find even average-looking Russian girls having Russian men throw money at them. It is a fact of life in modern Russia, especially Moscow. Moscow money is now flowing into St.Pete and other cities, so I fear that this change of preference in selecting men is well underway there as well.
Tommasini:
Thanks for your comments. I do realize that the threat of violence or force is considered by many to be an effective method of getting your girl back in line. I usually just don’t like to do that, even though I do agree that it is sometimes the only solution. In Maya’s case, I did get rough with her a bit… when I was trying to throw her out. She did react to it as well, and did get more receptive… for a few seconds. But she still wasn’t going to do anything like give a decent blowjob or perform well… and the words “more money” were never removed from her vocabulary. She was simply a bad apple… or just had a very bad night.
When you went to Tribunal and enjoyed it, which girl or kind of girl did you take? What did you pay? I really have never been impressed by anything I have seen there (except for the strippers)…
I understand your point Doc. I had almost the exact experience myself in Odessa just after this last New Years; an agreed upon price and money paid. Then sudenly - new requests for more money, stories of her hard life, with consumption of my champagne and this never ending chain-smoking in my living room?
I honestly wanted to smack her! However, me being a foreigner in a foreign country, and the potential harsh consequences from any local (s) and/or police who might see her twisted side. A menacing growl and the return of my money before her exit was my same result as well? I only recommended the other reaction partly out of 2nd hand hindsight, but maybe we both had done it correctly?
My time in the Tribunal Bar; I arrived with a girl friend already in tow in the early spring of 2005. She works for a local porn site, and had volunteered her services for showing me her city in exchange for dinner. The Hermitage. The Neva River. Peter the Great. Then, stumbling upon the Tribunal Bar; great music, tastsy drinks, and sexy dancer girls all helped climax an evening that eventually led back to my flat just off Nevsky Prospekt. Cost, dinner, a few drinks. And a romantic stoll through the heart of St Petersburg. Continued luck Doc in your travels.
Tommasini
Doc I think you get the point when you wrote that you "buy her time" and not the girl.
I went,few times with you too, to Tribunal but even if I talk with more than one girl there, I never took nobody home. The place is not so bad, I felt better than in Magrib, but all the girls gave me the feeling of pieces of...ice!
When I am going to take a pro, I always ask in advance if she allow French Kissing and bbbj,if not I will not take her. The first reason is because I cannot understand why I have to pay to get much less than from a regular girl I can find in disco, but the second, main, reason it is that the kind of girl as you took will never allow them and the girls that allow are, from my experience, very friendly in bed and a sort of real GFE.
Then nevermind if you will change idea and decide to put condom and not kiss her, you know that you have higher chance to have something unforgettable.
So I prefer to kill in a while all the good feeling I get with her asking if she allows french kissing and bbbj, instead to have then inside my flat a such asshole.
Many years ago I was pretty shy to ask such things,( some pro looked at me in strange way) but after some sad experiences now I always ask in advance and I do not remember the last time I took pro without the safety I can have bbbj and I can kiss her, even if sometimes I then put condom,but it was my and not her decision.
Sometimes I came back to flat alone, but the times I found, I found something that I never complain.
The only time you "buy a girl" is tockha, and this is why in every city I miss them, or, something similar you have when you take SW and in private saloon and this is why I like them.
Just my opinion.
Doc,
What can I say? Crazy Maya is crazy Maya. Don't read too much into one night with one crazy loon.
I told you she was crazy, sounds like she is worse than before. As she was probably my first lay in SPB, last summer, when i was staying at the, ahem ... Astoria, I can perfectly visualize the pyschotic escapade. I do remember having very good sex with her that night ... "crazy sex" in her words. She was a very energetic fuck. I don't recall the bj part, but I am not a bj lover so it is a non issue with me. With me she pulled the psychoitc part in the morning when she tried to get me to give her more $ for morning sex. We argued about this for an hour before going back to sleep until noon. She claimed that some Russian man gave her $2000 just for the hell of it, and that American men were cheap by comparison. And she had this big routine of how she could not be hurt emotionally. She had some theory about her heart, I can't recall the strange logic she used. But the next time I saw her at Tribunal and she jumped all over me with her caresses and tugs, and I told her "forget it, you argued for more money in morning, I will never pay you again", then she got all weepy on me. Anyway she is crazy. But she does latch and grope in the bar better than any other Russian pro since she is very uninhibited in the bar. Maybe it works for her.
Anyway, I understand the frustration part. Every time I have a bad session I think "never again". But inevitably I find a new hottie and we click and all is good again. Win some, lose some.
Still, SPB, looks like it is getting more expensive. One of the photomodelis just raised their price. Tonight, I strolled by the Nevsky Palace bar to see what hotel talent looks like. I have never payed a hotel girl, but some of my friends had told me there was some good talent there so I went to check it out. Five chicks, only one I found attractive. She followed me to elevator lobby to negotiate. She and her friend told me their normal price was ... get this ...$500 each, and that for me they would give me a discount to $400 each. I said "let me talk to Ira (the one i liked) alone". I told her, "i don't pay more than $100 for 2 hours". She told me she had to give $100 just to the hotel and the lowest she could go was $300. I said "well lets talk one night when you are not working for hotel" and we exchanged numbers.
And Magrib sucks. How can they screw up Magrib? I cannot fathom why there are always more men looking for *****s than there are *****s in that place. What is the f'n managment doing? How can they not get enough *****s to satisfy the demand. I don't understand why the pick up bar in Helsinki has more women from SPB than the supposedly best club in SPB. Its not like they are charging that much less in SPB. I don't know if the Magrib management discourages the working girls or what, but for a city like this it is a dissappointing monger bar scene.
Rovnak:
Glad to see you are back!
Sure Maya had energy, but everything on my night with her was too routine... she had a standard programme of what she wanted to do to get me to come within 15 minutes... unfortunately for her, I like to take my time with sex and try many positions etc. It was like worlds colliding. Nevermind. Of course I'll take pros again, but I do need a break. By the way, even as I was booting her off into the taxi on what was a horrible night, she was still asking me to fuck her and wanting to know when we would see each other again. She'd felt we had "connected". Huh? She really is a loon.
Lukasek:
I usually ask about kissing and BBBJ as well when taking girls from the bars... like I said, basically I made a lot of mistakes in selecting Maya... essentially not even following my own advice.
Tommasini:
So you never actually took a good pro from Tribunal, but brought your own... clever! :) Sure, to have a few drinks Tribunal is just fine... like I said, the strippers are ok. They are quite good at Marstalls too.... but the selection of pros is lousy. By the way, I said Maya was the 2nd worst pro experience I have had? My worst was in Odessa too... a girl who gave up fucking after 5 minutes and said she was sick because she was pregnant. Not only did I feel bad because this reminded me of the darker side of prostitution, but how was I going to deal with her? I couldnt get rough with a pregnant girl... :) She didnt look preggers at all though, I think she was just tired and didnt want to work.
So are there any St.Pete pickup bars beyond the ones we already know?
Marstalls: Still shitty from what I've heard, although they have been increasing their advertising.... maybe something will change for the positive?
Tribunal: Well you read what I think of that place... good news is that Tribunal is MOVING to a new location... not exactly sure when, but word has it that Tribunal will move to Karavannaya Street, which is very central and just off of Nevsky.
Magrib: Although Magrib is still the best pickup bar in my opinion, it is definitely hit and miss with seemingly more misses than hits lately.
I agree with Rovnak... what can be so difficult about running a pick up bar? There are definitely always enough interested customers... can't they find enough pros? Or maybe they dont want to?
[QUOTE=Doctor_Skank]
I needed sleep, I decided to kick her out and told her I didn’t want to come and she should get her things and leave. I said this in a nice way, expecting her to be happy as most *****z would be. But this was the worst part. SHE WOULDN’T LEAVE! [/QUOTE]
What could be the worst scenario, if you threw her out of your apartment half naked than threw her fake designers out of the window? Just curiosity to the scene, some big brothers would decide to visit you. Cause I had that feeling couple of times, but I preferred to keep calm and accepted the rip off.
[QUOTE=Big Bro AJ]What could be the worst scenario, if you threw her out of your apartment half naked than threw her fake designers out of the window? Just curiosity to the scene, some big brothers would decide to visit you. Cause I had that feeling couple of times, but I preferred to keep calm and accepted the rip off.[/QUOTE]Like your thinking BBAJ. I threatened a tochka girl in Moscow with all her clothes out the 6th floor window a couple of years ago. Don't even know where the idea came from but it was certainly out of frustration when she started to think she was running the show and didn't want to do anything except sit on the sofa naked watching FTV, drinking my booze and smoking my cigarettes.
It was actually quite humorous how the idea of a little naked stroll home suddenly changed her thinking and the menu went from not wanting to do anything at all to BBBJ, photos and pretty much anything else I might have wanted. Interestingly up until that point I had been really nice to her and just got cold, negative vibes back.
Maybe she thought she might have some problems explaining to mama where her clothes had gone as the tochka was only about 80 metres up the street from my apartment.
Wonder if a Night Flight girl would react the same or whether she would have a bunch of flatheads round there the next day to throw my clothes out the 6th floor window with me still in them ?
Doc, re Maya energy in bed.
I did not mention that to suggest that you were not giving her a fair shake. I am sure you were representing her correctly, in all her nuttiness.
I only mentioned it to cover my own ass for not having warned you away in stronger terms. Probably, she has become even more jaded, more lazy and more manipulative in the 8 months since I encountered her and your fateful night. I feel somewhat responsible for not having painted a worse picture for you to begin with.
Tanya at Photomodeli [url]http://www.photomodeli.ru/html_girl_info.php?g_id=229[/url] looks better in person (cute!), sucks like a Hoover. Thanks to Dant75's previous posting, and a bit of phone work, I was able to locate the place. If you go ... do NOT go through the archway. The apartment door opens directly onto Nevsky.
Katya:
[url]http://www.photomodeli.ru/html_girl_info.php?g_id=293[/url]
This girl has done her kegel exercises. She grabbed ahold and squeezed hard!
Both of the Photomodeli salons in that building (Light/1 and Light/2) are in what I think are 4-bedroom apartments. I was not able to get anyone to answer the bell in either apartment; I had to call from the nearby taksofon booth using a calling card that, of course, I forget to retrieve, and bothering hell out of the madams by not having the good sense to press the "*" key to activate the connection after they answered.
Nobody really spoke any English but we managed to communicate enough to have somebody come down to the door and let me in.
The drill is, shower, then massage and fuck, then shower again. If time left, then more massage. No sense of clock-watching, which certainly is an improvement from my experiences in other countries.
Drinks, including water, are extra.
The place is tolerably clean but far from spotless.
Thanks again to Dant75 for the tips that made it all possible. :-)
Hi,
Has somebody visited lately this Striptease boat - does it still exist? I visited boat few years ago and girls were absolute stunners!! It was also possible to f**k them in private room. At that time Tutsi was much more enjoyable than Golden Dolls. Any info would be appreciated.
[url]http://www.photomodeli.ru/html_girl_info.php?g_id=306[/url]
I think to move to Russia if you can have girls like her for 1800 RUR/h
I have seen almost every girl that photomodeli has to offer. The photographer is a miracle worker. Subtract 2 points at least to get idea of girl in real life. If she looks like an 8 in photo she is more like a 6 in real life. Also the skin tones on these photos are so glossy. The guy oils the girls up first and the look nice toned and tan. Then you see them paler and flabbier.
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Still photomodeli is a good deal, along with Domino they are the most reliable and at least use real photos, if highly photoshopped. But this is more truth than you get almost anywhere else in Piter. I have generally found the girls I prefer are not even on the photo site, and the ones that are on the site do not measure up when I see them live And they generally have a reasonable lineup so you are always given a choice, not just a "sorry only 2 girls available - ugly and uglier".
Its funny, the different houses have different rates but they don't really correlate to quality. For some reason the girls I have had from the Kamenstrovsky site were all dissappointments by comparison to the other cheaper houses.
Stayed in St Petersburg for a week – now ready to contribute a bit.
I really loved the city – though it seems rather dark and grayish (2 rainy days should be the reason) it gives you the feeling that you need to come back again to catch the mood of the city that escapes every time you think you have perceive it.
The "white nights" are really impressive. Unfortunately, I could not hit its peak – June, 21-22.
But white nights nevertheless makes you feel you found yourself in some very strange place – the lights of the big city are dimmed by soft twilight during all the night. One can even read outdoors without candlelight with minor difficulties. Not even a slight need to turn in. You can stay awake till the daybrake so that the daytime seems to be continuous.
Being not too pert to plainly pick up girls I preferred to collect necessary contacts beforehand.
I found some pretty nice girls on [url]http://www.russiansexbombs.com[/url], but none of them lived in St.Petersburg. After that I found several attractive girls to my mind (slim and petite) on [url]http://www.russiansexyladies.com[/url]. I called for Ksenia – don’t have her id# handy. She came in time and was really neat and dressed stylish. It was a wonderful night, I didn’t expect that much from the first try. The next day I called for another girl – Alia (or something like that). She was not as attractive as her photos on the site, but her skills are matchless. She is about 27, so her experience makes you feel idler. Both were not more than $60 (1500 and 1800 rbls as far as I remember).
So, I have a wonderful pastime staying in the City of White Nights. Walking by the Neva banks is still in my eyes.
Sorry for being too muddled. Next time I’ll put in more specific information. Hope it helps.
[b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread.[/blue]
[QUOTE=Rovnak]Its funny, the different houses have different rates but they don't really correlate to quality. For some reason the girls I have had from the Kamenstrovsky site were all dissappointments by comparison to the other cheaper houses.[/QUOTE]This is valuable information!! I would think houses are privatly managed and they only pay fee for internet marketing? Before I thought there is some russian mob who controls the business. Anyone with more knowledge?
I will visit St Pete in July if all goes fine, and report will follow.
San
[QUOTE=Rovnak]I have seen almost every girl that photomodeli has to offer. The photographer is a miracle worker. Subtract 2 points at least to get idea of girl in real life. If she looks like an 8 in photo she is more like a 6 in real life. Also the skin tones on these photos are so glossy. The guy oils the girls up first and the look nice toned and tan. Then you see them paler and flabbier.
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Still photomodeli is a good deal, along with Domino they are the most reliable and at least use real photos, if highly photoshopped. But this is more truth than you get almost anywhere else in Piter. I have generally found the girls I prefer are not even on the photo site, and the ones that are on the site do not measure up when I see them live And they generally have a reasonable lineup so you are always given a choice, not just a "sorry only 2 girls available - ugly and uglier".
Its funny, the different houses have different rates but they don't really correlate to quality. For some reason the girls I have had from the Kamenstrovsky site were all dissappointments by comparison to the other cheaper houses.
[/QUOTE]
All professional photos are enhanced (fashion, movies, television and sex ads). At least it's not fake photos with pornstars and as you say there is reasonable choice in the lineup. I hope you finally got Mila ! I still regret that I met her when I leaved the salon with empty balls.
Girls can also move to another salon and have another price. For example Dasha and Nastya were in Nevsky 162 (2000 RBL / 2h) before to go to Kamennoostrovsky 24 (3500 RBL / 2h).
[QUOTE=San Tarm]This is valuable information!! I would think houses are privatly managed and they only pay fee for internet marketing? Before I thought there is some russian mob who controls the business. Anyone with more knowledge?
I will visit St Pete in July if all goes fine, and report will follow.
San[/QUOTE]
Those salons are pimp managed. The girl gets only about 1/3 of the price. For example if you pay 2500 RBL, the girl will get 800 RBL. But I think the girls are free to leave and it's not such a bad deal compared to other options.
An escort agency would take 60% only for advertising and booking. In hotels, it's surely more than 60%, and so-called independant girls (bar / disco / internet) must also pay for "security". At least a salon is a secure place for the girl who is not alone with an unknown customer.
Those girls work harder and cheaper than the other sex workers but most of the ones that I met gave me good service. You can tip her if she has been good, she would get 100% of the tip. For example if the price is 2500 RBL, a 200 RBL bonus will cost you 8% but the girl will have a 25% bonus (800 + 200 RBL).
Most working Girls at western hotels I've talked to at hotels say they pay about $50 if they take a customer home. Assuming they get about $250 from an average hotel customer, its still a good gig... for them. You can talk all hotel girls down to a decent price, even in Moscow I have gotten offers for $150/2 hours. It all depends on day of week, competition etc.
I must say that I didn't practised hotel girls since a long time, it was during my first times in Russia when it seemed a good deal for me. Now I know they are overpriced and not the best, thanks to this forum.
Are you talking about independant girls that you take back in your hotel (are they really independant or pimped ?), or "official" girls from the hotel ?
Dant,
I did see Mila, and she looks like photos. Nice and tan, and nice body. Her face is pretty from some angles and not pretty from other angles. I do not recommend her because her service was quite mechanical. As I said, I have had most disappointing service from the Kamenstrovsky 24 girls. I don't know why, but I have had much, much better in other photomodeli salons.
Now, I have standard approach where I tell admin, I want to speak to girl in private before I decide. Then I ask girl if she will kiss. Some say no and some say yes. If they say no, I do not choose them because most times this means girl will not allow herself to enjoy and she will be mechanical. I should have done that with Mila, but I did not.
We're russian erotic agancy.
I can offer use my models for your project or produce adult content for your orders.
I can organize a shoots here(in St.Petersburg).
My models you can see on my site [url]www.mixphoto.com[/url]
(access after registration).
Welcome!
I'm glad to see you on this forum Lena. For those who don't know her, she's one of the most famous erotic model from St Petersburg and now runs a model agency. You can register without problem on her site, she doesn't sell your email to spammers (hmm, maybe I shouldn't give her this idea). And you can find many known talents if you like russian nude models (softcore & hardcore).
I'm still a fan of Lena and have hundreds of pictures from her, my preferred photoset is the boat on the Neva. It was a few years ago when she was just 18 or 19, but Lena is still a real beauty.
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I wanted to meet Lena last year, but she's not an escort, her agency is not an escort agency, and photos without sex are more expensive than sex without photos. I didn't convince her to give me a discount for amateur photoshooting. Luckily I had other beautiful girls with sex and photos (without extra, just a big tip). Still regret that I didn't meet the famous and unique Lena. Would love to see new photos of her, why not on this forum !
I generally like Photomodeli but they are becoming less customer friendly.
Here is latest example. The Nevsky Palace location at Nevsky Prospect 63 list prices on photomodeli.ru at 2000R/hr and 3000R/ 2hr. Very reasonable. The girl photos on that site are representative. I have seldom chosen from that group since I prefer others. And the adminsitrators at that site are bitchy.
Phone number there is 948-6200
But today, I noticed this collection of superstars on [url]http://spb.devochki.ru/phones_similar.php?phone=9486901[/url]
I figured, ok, false photos, but they are asking $150/hr and $250/ 2 hrs, they must be better looking than average, so maybe I will window shop and see if they come close to their stolen photos. Phone number there is 948-6901
So I call, and adminstrator says "address is 63 Nevsky".
I say "Photomodeli?" and she says "yes, blah, blah, blah". I'm thinking WTF how can they list effectively double their price on this other site AND use fake photos.
So I hang up. Then I call back. I say "Apartment 9?".
She says "Yes".
I say "I am confused. I see photomodeli.ru lists price at 2000/hr but spb.devochki.ru says $150/ hr."
She says "No photomodeli is 4000/hr blah blah blah".
Basically, they are fishing for chumps who see the first list of fake photos, show up and get scammed into paying double the normal price. F'em. I suggest no one patronize the Nevsky 63 location.
Mixed experience in St Petersburg: tried Helen from Lana's escort service (listed in St Petersburg Times). She was very pretty, but is a cold fish, terrible service ("don't touch"); she went out her way to let me know that she was feeling nothing several times. I asked her to shower and she used the bidet only and came to bed with dirty feet. Her cell phone went off 6 or 7 times with a long obnoxious song. For $200 this was a terrible choice. I am dissapointed in that last year I saw a girl Ulya through this agency who was very skilled and warm, with much better service.
I stayed near Nevsky 63 and stopped in three times. The 2000 rubles/hour price is good, considiering the attractive lineup. I tipped $20 in the beginning for encouragement. My first was a 22 year old law student with red hair, an extremely sexy body with large breasts, thin waist and full hips. She was wildly enthusiastic, rubbing her body against mine, doing a vigorous, skilled CBJ and then was warm and responsive during sex. We repeated 2X in the hour. She was fun to talk to and is good at sex. Two other girls were nearly flops. One caught my eye, because she is Uzbek with huge breasts. She spoke fair english, but didn't try much and was a no kiss/no touch type. The third was beautiful young blond girl, fairly tall with voluptuous rear and breasts. She was the worst, however, acting dead throughout the sex, trying little with cbj. The three lineups I saw in selecting these girls were all excellent with girls ranging from about 6 to 9 in appearance. I think it might help to pick the ones with the most energetic physical appearance and smile, e.g. the first girl had some volcanic feel as she stood there, a voluptuous body in her bra and panties.
First of all I do apologise in advance for my english...Just few lines to tell my experience in St. Petersburg. Unfortunatelly I had no time for going to the different houses (I was there for work), and so I referred to lanaescort. AS far as for what I understood some photo are fake, but the real girl is rather similar to the one presented. I tried at first Katya and I must admit she was very nice; 2h without watching the clock, we had a nice shower togheter, kissing, 2 shots with nice licking and CBJ in between, and she seemed also to like it. Definetelly worth spending 150€. Unfortunatelly I called her for a second time few days later but she didn't come to the appointment.
The second girl is Kseniya; maybe nicer than the first one but definetely as cold as ice...arrived 20 min late, left 15min in advance, no participation and just talks about her nice dresses, etc.
AS for the pickup places: I went to Maghrib on Sat night and it was a desert, very disappointing. So far so good the Marstall, even though the average level of the girls is medium to low.
Contact me in pvt for further details.
[QUOTE=Dant75]I'm glad to see you on this forum Lena. For those who don't know her, she's one of the most famous erotic model from St Petersburg and now runs a model agency. You can register without problem on her site, she doesn't sell your email to spammers (hmm, maybe I shouldn't give her this idea). And you can find many known talents if you like russian nude models (softcore & hardcore).
I'm still a fan of Lena and have hundreds of pictures from her, my preferred photoset is the boat on the Neva. It was a few years ago when she was just 18 or 19, but Lena is still a real beauty.
[url]http://www.blondgirlpictures.com/sexy-teen-zavisha/gallery1.html[/url]
[url]http://www.shymodels.com/content/angelgrn/zavisha/1/index.htm[/url]
Sorry Jackson for posting external links, if these links are to be removed, you may search "Zavisha angelteen" on Google.
I wanted to meet Lena last year, but she's not an escort, her agency is not an escort agency, and photos without sex are more expensive than sex without photos. I didn't convince her to give me a discount for amateur photoshooting. Luckily I had other beautiful girls with sex and photos (without extra, just a big tip). Still regret that I didn't meet the famous and unique Lena. Would love to see new photos of her, why not on this forum ![/QUOTE]All this much pleasantly reads 8))
You are correctness. Erotic models get more than girls on night.
Beside me not escort agency, regrettably. I concern with only organization of the shoots.If you will be want to shoot beautifully girl in our sity, let me know.
I just returned from l, iving in StP for 6 months. Great city but the women are getting very picky. There are many at the clubs but you difficult to score with unless your young and good looking. Most of the girls are 18-22. The older gorls work and are generally not at the clubs. The clubs go off from midnight to 6: am.
Marstalls: Is ok. Some working girls in the back to the left. Not really very good looking.
Tribunal: To my friends and I, this is the worst place in the world. They can over charge. They can refuse to give you back your change. Horrible people run the place. Be careful. A beer normally cost between 50-100 rubles. Thi splaced charged me 250 one night. Fuck those assholes at this club.
Magrib: I like the working girls. Nice to talk to. Thta is all. On the weekend many non-working girls but the place becomes too crowed and too load.
Rossi's: best club in town, period. They did take my free pass card becuase I let some else use it. They gave me all kinds of trouble. Making me come back 3 times. Ten would not give it back to me. Hummm and I spent a lot of money in the club. I stopped going but still reco the place.
I fou do not speak russian you will have a lot of problems getting inot even the w houses. They simply cannot give you the door code and apt number. Ask a taxi driver. It wil lcost an extra 500 rubes.
Hi,
I was visiting in St Peter and cheked out some numbers. This time my choice was Kamilla [url]http://www.highlife.spb.ru/girl001.html[/url] photos are real and her face is beutiful even it does not show in the photos. Location is Vasiliostrovski island, street 11 line, house 40. phone 9741223. It was 2000/h and 2000 extra for anal. I know that 2000 for anal is too much, but I did not have time to wonder aroud the city this time. Beside her ass is gorgeous as you can see in pictures. Have one hour fun and would go again if possible, she understand a little bit Englihs too.
All of these sites are Russian sex sites? They sure don't look like it. They are great but they do not look like Russian. Would be great if they were. Thanks for the links
Stowe
[QUOTE=VinceVoyeur]St Petersburg is the capital of porn in Russia. You can fuck these girls too and make your own films with [url]http://www.russiansexmodels.com/[/url]
do you have another porn links about St Pete ?[/QUOTE]
Hi Vince, have you tried yourself ? Some girls have comments and few of them are very short and sigend by "Vince". Is it you ???
THX
TL
I used Mixphoto a while ago and thought it was great. You can see all of their girls on Mixphoto.com (I think you have to register for free first).
You really do make your own porn movie. You can hire a cameraman with lights if you want, but it is relatively expensive at $100/shoot. You can save money by bringing your own video camera and hiring someone who just holds the camera.
I did DP with this girl (282 Olga on the Mixphoto website). It was pretty amazing. She looks much better in person. I'll try to post some pictures when I download them from my camera.
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Sirs, I have gathered information on the night clubs similar to K5-Prague. Classy but cost-efficient service providers are essential biz tool, and I still do not get it. I wish to ask your wisdom and experience.
So far, I have collected that such 'clubs' exists: however some of them seems more closer to the room or appartment. Others are merely collection of incall-escort? Is there any of these up to the level of GoldenTimes (FKK)?
1) Domino: seems having 4 satellite appartment and girls are provisioned. I am not sure if it is club or appartment.
For below, I cannot find any information. Does anybody know about service level and safety information?
2) Emmanuel
3) Kiss-Kiss
4) Photomodeli: Is this escort, or incall-appartment? How is the facility if it were incall? Is it the collection of independent incall-escorts?
5) Mercedeski: no information
6) Highlife: the web site tells essential facility information, but seems smaller?
Below is still unknown to me.
7) Imagination
8) Elis
It also seems Russian scene works with appartment and sauna. Sauna seems providing the basis of service provision, and it is up to me (users), who need to arrange escort service to arrange sessions. Is Saunas provide girls too?
Escort service is approximetely twice the cost of incalls, from the observation of each escort site. Incalls are still inexpensive: seems 60 Euro/hour, 100 Euro /2hours. This is quite inexpensive by contrast with FKK: 50+100 = 1 hour, 50+180 = 2 hour.
In St.P, it seems customary that some WG sneak into music clubs, hotels, (and even in some sports clubs?) approach the targeted men, but I was advised that these WG's quality is low. Also hepatitis-related STD should be alerted.
I have somehow invented one 'Merphy's Law": in EE countries, good/cleverer service providers, who speak English or foreign language, have already been emigrated temporarily to WE to get better revenue. (but I wonder if it pays the actual transport/living cost.)
Another law is: these service providers are not desperately poor. They wish to have just some money to spend. Yes, small perfume of Chiristina Dior costs 85 Euro, and blanded clothes easily exceeds 200 Euro, good GSM for 400 EUro, small top-floor appartment for 300k Euro (?) and need initial coverage of 30k Euro, mortgage to pay 2700 Euro per month... ADSL to pay 40 Euro/month, PC to buy 2500 Euro, and it seems they never satisfy themselves until they encounter the end of service.
Certain Russian girls seems quite willing to associate to the rich men, who can afford approx 400-500k Euro at once. These WGs seems not interested in providing professional service, but emphasizing more to allure pitiness and sympathy. They talk and try to impress how she feel poorly, and just do unprofessional sex as an assortment in the last 10 minutes?
I have seen such cases in London City too, where some local British girls who require money during/after the graduation of university or who lives in Council Houses solicit lonely men working in the City, successfully have them buy an appartment in Knightsbridge (or at least have patronize them for certain money). I wish to avoid these girls.
Sirs, please advise if you have wisdom!
Thanks Caltalyst - your post is truly a "Value Added" one. A must try when visiting Russia.
[QUOTE=Stowe]All of these sites are Russian sex sites? They sure don't look like it. They are great but they do not look like Russian. Would be great if they were. Thanks for the links
Stowe[/QUOTE]Its pay sites. On this site were used only russian girls.
[QUOTE=VinceVoyeur]Hardcore B/G - > ~600$ for set (100 images +) + 1 edited movie (20 min)
It costs too hight, no ?[/QUOTE]Its base price for custom content.
If you want to shoot yourself you have other price.
Vince,
Just contact Elena using the contact email address on the Mixphoto website, tell her what you want to do, and she'll give you a price. I could tell you what I paid, but I think she prefers to discuss prices individually with her clients.
These ones I have used and could say that they should be as safe to use as it is possible in Russian.
Emmanuelle, 2 different location, Newski Prospekt 113 and Marata 39. Apartments are not so good but pictures of the girls have been real. Price is 1500 in daytime ond 1800 in late evening and night.
Domino, several apartments. I have visited in Vladimirski prospect 8, Sezzhinskaya Ulisa 22 and Saharevskaja ulitsa 5. Pictures of the girls sometimes real sometimes not. Price is moving between 1800-2500. Action ok.
High life was earlier under the name ZOOM, that is the place I visited last time, see earlier report.
An excellent and central place is Nevsky Pr. 63, phone number +7-812-9486200
sirs,
spetersburg, such an interesting city: it's like mixture of preserved fossils-reptiles from 1960 to 1990. spb airport is surprizingly outdated. katowice airport
(pl) would be better constructed. girls are sexy. people are soundly corrupt, and society is money hungry.
i was cautioned that skinheads operates anywhere, and foreign nationals could become targeted violence. perhaps, russia is still unmatured nature: lingering racism + jingoism. race is not attainment but endowment, so i generally thought wise to use local camofrage, such as bringing russian friend, or somehow hiring cheaply (as i did). i also have taken lot of taxi. walking alone in the night is very dangerous even in the city centre. police officer is one element of concern, who would try to rip-off. sueprizingly, i have seen police officer dating with girlfriend on duty in spb city centre; russian police officers are under-equipped: far worse than that of us/uk/israeli/japan's polices.
i 'hired' local russian, who was doing toilet cleaning when i visited the local branch office of my work, who is still young. speaks little bit english. she earns
300 euro per month, so i negotiated to pay 80 euro to escort me for security reasons. two nights. no sex. all drinks and club-entry paid. affirmative.
surely this is 2-nights-3-day biz trip, so time is liminted!
<day one> finished the work around 2000, and after having dinner at kazakhstern restaurant, we strolled around nemski pr. and checked the information. the establishments of
modeli for instance are just an appartment, and perfectly disguised.
for safety reason, i went to golden doll as a 'beginner's first step'. sexpensive, er, expensive! i was pre-cautioned from friends that the tips would be enormous
waste if i stay longer in such places. i did not purchased any service, and just looked inside, sat down for approx 9 minutes, observed wgs, and asked to call taxi
due to urgent matter. (i went with the tg. the guard passed her without problem. she was comically laughing at me.) just paid the entrance fee and some small drinks.
then straightly walked nemeski twice. walked approx 1 hour. it seems street seduction is possible, because many girls are in pair, and just walking curiously. some
girls are sitting in a bench without purpose. i wished to make a seduction, but i refrained myself because none of russian boys are doing this.
now after two hours, tg tired, claimed pain in the legs. i called taxi, returned hotel, and tg returned home. i paid 1000r (= 20 euro) including her return. in spb, it is cheaper to catch 'taxi' which is just an indivisual who needs small money. if you stand up gazing road, car will stop and ask 'where would you like to
go? ' unfortunately, to do this, russian conversational capability is required. so, i used normal taxi. taxi meters are often dubious, so please do not believe this.
generally speaking, spb has sexual entertainment from following sources:
<1> striptease expensive night club: these costs approx 600usd to bring out the girl. they are beautiful, and can be takenout for one night. if we think it as 6 hours, and if std checks are done
correctly, this is ok, but i prefer 1 hour or 2 hours. do not need more than that. so this is ng (not good) for me.
<2> incall clubs/escort these are (perhaps) much smaller scale. seems collection of incall escorts, and location is rep001tered in many appartments. it might be the result of lack of money on
the operating organization
their prices are 60 euro-100 euro, almost all 50% of normal price.
<3> taxi drivers guide
taxi drivers are equipped with the booklet of escorts. they show it to the customers, and be paid from the incall escort agencies.
since it is only tourist who would ask taxi driver where to go, i generally presumed this is dangerous.
here are some well-known places, which would be fail-proof. important: i have tested none of these so far due to lack of 'local camofrage'/time.
-highlife ([url]http://www.highlife. spb. ru/girls.html[/url]) caution: this place is located in the isle, and the bridge to this isle will be
closed after 00: 00 and opens only at 03: 00 for 30 minutes. during this time, there are special boat services. i would raelly need local guide who could guide this. a
russian local told me that it is widely used excuse to say: "oh i was not able to return home early because of the bridge! "
-domino ([url]http://www.dominogirls. ru/contacts/[/url]) dominno works as an integrated call centre for various incall-escort. they have 4 call centres and each of them has its
own administration of girls. i doubt if indivisual escort esteem the compliance of hiv/std countermeasure.
-photomodeli ([url]http://www.photomodeli. ru[/url]) this is purely a portal site, and there is no responsibility of this web site administrator to indivisual operators. this
site contains about 5-6 places. the location changes often.
-kiss kiss ([url]http: //amurspb. ru/agencies/agencies/35/[/url]) currently it has 5 operating bases.
-emanuelle ([url]http: //amurspb. ru/agencies/agencies/13/[/url]) ([url]http: //amurspb. ru/agencies/agencies/14/[/url]) emanuelle operates two bases. each has its own wgs.
-mercedes ([url]http://www.escortspb. ru/rus/mersedeski[/url]) it works as an escort agency, and wgs seems located in various secret places. location is not listed.
-sexmission ([url]http://www.sexmission. ru/[/url]) investigation is required.
-imagination (investigation is required)
-elis (investigation is required)
<day two>
i finished the work around 2100, and returned to the hotel, refresh, and met tg at the station near vaganova ballet school at 2200.
firstly i have been to magrib. i have paid 200 ruble; however it was quite empty on thursday night. i have stayed until 0100 in vain. even the people in the bar were
leaving. the restaurant section is clearly segregated per seat and seemed difficult to make intermingling. waiter seems watching the deed.
initially a russian colleague has informed me that it is quite 'difficult club' for the 'face control'. i understand universally that 'looking stylish, seemingly
affluent' is the key to pass the face controle. but the selection standard seems blurr. i have seen native russian's clothes and are not stylish: out-dated. the definition of 'smart-casual clothes' is differntly interpreted.
i have asked a girl: 'do you think rossi's is better than this? ' answer was: the people who come to maglib are more aged, and can be enjoyable from this reason.
now it is time to move to rossi's club. it is not far, but i & tg has took taxi costing 500r (10 euro). cannot remember the entry cost: something 300-
400r.
the start of school year is next week, so there was very many young girls: goldmine of young russian girls. many are two girls, or in a group. male player seems not
knowing seduce alone, and mostly two boys just looking.
i aimed at high, but i am failing to seduce. perhaps it is because the fear that english could not be understood was real. not many has spoken english. initially i
have selected a girl, who is totally russian speaking (or may be pretending? ) another two trial to be rebuffled with villain look. i am scared. but george, remember
the weekly trainings in london + gent pickup bars! even if a girl did not answer courteously, it simply means "not interested of your looks". that is no problem. that is due blow in seduction, so do not worry, be resilient, stay cool, try next. i remembered old sales manager telling me: "smile back to abusive customer: maintain your high standard. never degrade your morale. remember, '1000 trial 300 interested, 3 contract. " yes sir!
combatted until 0330, but unfortunately i was unable to score any girl. oh, such a good start! i left the club, and paid taxi driver 400 ruble to return hotel.
envisaging frequent travel to spb soon, i should make local gf to have a base. i will report soon about more hunting places. it seems there are plenty of it. the key-point is poor, young, english-speaking girl, who cannot afford visiting foreign country. but we surely need to avoid scam girls, who are just vacuum cleaner of people's wallet!
ga
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I would like to know the prices as well. This should be open. Rates should not go up and down based on individual haggling.
[QUOTE=Catalyst]Vince,
Just contact Elena using the contact email address on the Mixphoto website, tell her what you want to do, and she'll give you a price. I could tell you what I paid, but I think she prefers to discuss prices individually with her clients.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Guy #2]I would like to know the prices as well. This should be open. Rates should not go up and down based on individual haggling.[/QUOTE]I dont haggling! I've stable price for my comission.
You pay models by itself stipulated earlier amount.
I've different models, some models have very big experience and they have more high price. Other model have not big experience and have low price.
GA:
Thanks for the report, it was fun to read. Just a couple of comments:
"we strolled around Nemski Pr."
It's called NEVSKY Prospekt named after Russian hero Alexander Nevsky.
"and if STD checks are done"
Don't kid yourself. STD checks are supposedly done on some working girls, particularly those working in salons, however there is absolutely no security on this. It is your responsibility to take care of your own sexual safety. There are some risks to our hobby.
"Taxi drivers are equipped with the booklet of escorts. They show it to the customers, and be paid from the incall escort agencies. Since it is only tourist who would ask taxi driver where to go, I generally presumed this is dangerous."
It's not particularly dangerous. If a taxi driver shows you a catalog or magazine with girls pictures in it, 90% of the time he will be showing you a catalog of salons and if you are interested he will simply call a salon like Domino or Photomodeli (those apartment brothels) and get a girl from there. If he brings in a customer, the driver gets a commission from the salon (raising your price for the girl) and he will also charge you more for the taxi service than he normally would. Although not the best option price-wise due to the taxi driver's commission and his charges to you (about 500-700 rubles in my experience) which raise the total price for picking up the girl by about $30-50... it is also not the worst option if you dont know where else to go. A driver in front of Magrib once got me one of the hottest girls I have ever fucked. Made me a happy man and was a lot better than chasing some elusive freebies, trying to track down some working girls in the generally shitty pickup bars or wandering the streets at night trying to find a salon/brothel on my own. Money well spent if you ask me... and better than going home empty-handed... :)
"Own administration of girls. I doubt if indivisual escort esteem the compliance of HIV/STD countermeasure."
Again, don't kid yourself that there is any brand of girl somehow immune to the dangers of sex or regularly and effectively tested. Girls will tell you they are tested, and I am sure many are, but this still doesnt mean there is such a thing as 100% "safe sex" out there.
"-Photomodeli ([url]http://www.photomodeli[/url]. Ru) This is purely a portal site, and there is no responsibility of this web site administrator to indivisual operators. This
Site contains about 5-6 places. The location changes often."
This is a great agency IMHO and some of the locations have been the same for years. It's one of St.Pete's most consistent and reliable agencies. Please see Rovnak's reports on the agencies.
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"Firstly I have been to Magrib. I have paid 200 Ruble; however it was quite empty on Thursday night. I have stayed until 0100 in vain. Even the people in the bar were Leaving. The restaurant section is clearly segregated per seat and seemed difficult to make intermingling. Waiter seems watching the deed."
Surprised Magrib was dead on a Thursday night, but my recent trips there weren't anything special either. The restaurant area is a pretty lousy place to meet girls, you are right about that. Working girls are usually in the bar area. By the way, has ANYBODY actually had a positive experience at Magrib lately? I can't recall the last time I did... maybe about 1 year ago.... maybe longer.
Is Magrib now off of the monger's radar screen? Thoughts?
"Initially a Russian colleague has informed me that it is quite 'difficult club' for the 'face control'. I understand universally that 'looking stylish, seemingly Affluent' is the key to pass the face controle."
Magrib isnt considered a really "elite" or truly "in" place among local bigwigs in St.Pete. Just my casual observation, but it has been steadily declining year after year. New Russians (the rich) go to other clubs as do student type hotties.
"Now it is time to move to Rossi's Club. It is not far, but I & TG has took taxi costing 500R (10 Euro). Cannot remember the entry cost: something 300-400R."
That's an insane price, its only a 5 minute cab ride. 150 rubles would be a very generous offer for that distance normally... 200 on a club night. Tops.
"Combatted until 0330, but unfortunately I was unable to score any girl. Oh, such a good start!"
That happens, there is never any guarantee to score a girl. I agree with you that Rossi is a pretty good place to meet normal student-type girls, the only thing that matters is communication. You have to find a way to get her into a casual conversation and listening to you. Step 2 is the dance floor/body contact, step 3 is finding any excuse to get her to come to your apartment.
"Envisaging frequent travel to SPb soon, I should make local GF to have a base."
Good idea... :)
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Her name is Jane not her real name but do you know how i can contact this girl? It's very important for me the scene in tryteens is the best porn video scene that I have never seen I my life.
Answer me
Best regards ![/QUOTE]I dont know this model, but I ask other content provider about her.
She from St.Petersburg?
As a comment to the previous reports: I have usually regarded Magrib as a good place to go, and I have had in the past some excellent experiences from there. However, during the last 1-2 years it has been going downhill continuously regarding working girls. During the last year I have probably been in 10 times just to check for old times sake:)), but I have NEVER pulled a girl from Magrib during this time!! I may check also in the future, but Magrib is not useful for the hobby any more. The same is with Tribunal and Marstall.
Has anybody ANY idea where are the bars with working girls in St Pete?? They MUST be somewhere!
I will also say that photomodeli possibly is the best and most reliable incall chain in St Pete
Magrib ... sigh. That is all I can say "sigh". I just don't get SPB sex scene operators. They seem determined to supress the business instead of growing it.
Maybe they don't give a sh*t for tourist money. Maybe they get all they want from the locals. That is the only explanation I can think of. I live in SPB, so I get all I want from the salons and internet girls, but then I speak enough Russian to do this. I have the time to shop around and I interview any girl before I take her from salon. My success ratio has been incredible lately due to this approach.
I won't even go to Marstal or Tribunal. Yech.
Magrib on the other hand is a constant temptation. See, I live like 100 meters from Magrib so it is a constant nagging temptation. I'll be sitting comfortably in my apartment and then fantasies of super hotties in Magrib float into my mind. I think, "maybe tonight, the super hotties are there ... waiting for me!". Several times a month, this fantasy takes over and I shuffle over to Magrib, look in the disco, see a bunch of bodies and think "ok, looks like the night". Pay my fee and go in.
Then reality hits. There are about 5 or 6 obvious working girls near the front bar. Maybe a few more by the back bar and the rest of the crowd is business men and locals.The business men can't figure out why there are not more working girls. The girls that are there are generally aloof and think they deserve a fortune for a low intensity fuck. Most of the wg's there hate Russia and want to leave. Sometimes, I meet a nice woman, but compared to the salon and indy girls its all around a bad deal for me. I stand around, waiting for miss right to walk in and she never arrives. Instead, I observe the little local circus. Every night, there is a different visiting buffoon. One week its the Greek sporting the gigolo look, the next week its an Italian or Spanish guy wearing a white silk shirt with big red hearts, who grabs his drink from the bar and then propels himself onto the dance floor like a guided missle. Then, there are the usual cast of characters, a troll like old man who shuffles around giving everyone the evil eye (no, this is not me), the African music managers, the local thugs, the 5 or six owners. You would not believe how many local Russians in there have told me they "are friends with the owner". Each time, it turns out they are talking about someone completely different from the other owner I had heard about before. The only two women there that are unequivocably attractive to me are the short blond restaurant manager with the most attractive butt I have seen on a Russian woman, and the short brunette, probably Uzbek or Tatar, waitress who moves in and out of the crowd with superb grace.
I sit there thinking "what is wrong with this city, how can it not have one decent WG pick up bar? How can there be all these business men, just waiting to pay for a decent evening of sex, and not enough supply to meet the demand?"
I mean, the old Mikado club in Helsinki Finland was a far far far better mongering experience. 10 girls for every guy. Girls would approach you agressively and promise unlimited passion for the night and stay with you till lunch the next day. Many of them from SPB. I thought, "man, if this is Helsinki, SPB must be even better!". Wrong. At least for bars.
Now, don't get me wrong. If you are a casual traveler to SPB, Magrib is a reasonable alternative. What else can you do? And compared to the sexual desert of America, its an oasis. But it could be so, so, so much better, it bugs me. What I wouldn't give to have enough money and connections to open a good mongering bar in SBP. What a freaking shame. I'm reminded of a conversation I had with one of the managers of K5 in Prague. He was pointing out the girls to me and telling me which ones were good, better, best. He showed me a few Russians and I said "look, I live in SPB, I'm not going to pay double/triple whatever for a Russian in Prague. I can see dozens of such girls in Russia." And he says in this great Czech accent "dozens? you can see tousands in Russia. TOUSANDS ... but they are not organized!"
Sirs, I am honoured with such a valuable comments. Special appreciation to Dr for corrections of my mis-concepts. Thank you very much indeed for comments from Rovnak and Explorer69.
I will definitively gather more information on SPb to pickup girls efficiently and effectively.
To me it seems girls in the university and high schools are the key. I am keeping in touch with a girl whom I met in Rossi as just a foreign friend. Local low-career girls do not speak English. It could be that seduction within university, pretending a Russian language-exchange student? University is usually lonely place: there could be bars, and some social places?
New Academy of Fine Arts is said to have various posting for party, which is said to be friendly but also I would need to be alerted for element of gay culture in this.
I also would like to enquie: is the low-key street seduction OK in SPb? I have seen many young girls are in a group with two girls (walking curiously). For me it seems good target of friendly conversation.
A Kazakh man, who is a security guard in an low-key office building, told me that he usually do seduction in the street by bringing map, pretending as if he is lost. What a start of conversation! He speaks accented Russian, so for me he looks rogue. Maybe for natives, he may look pitiful. He claimed he change girls constantly with this method. Really?
How do you think following places? I need to check in next field survey.
-‘Par.Spb’: and ‘Tunnel’: Former seems like Ministry of Sound (UK). Latter seems attracting high school teenagers. They might be childish places. If I could get teen friends next time, I could try. I was informed that ‘Metro’ is mainly from un-sophisticated girls & boys from suburban towns. I expect coarse low-grade seduction with full of shyness going on. According to some guidebook, Rossi’s is an alternative of ‘Metro’.
-‘Trendy Griboedov Club’: Hosting fashion shows sometimes? Seems low-key but fashionable bar. Could be similar to ‘The Flat’ (Brussels)? A trendy, favoured by 20-30yo? If so it is good. ‘Idiot’ as well as ‘Fish Fabrique’ are said to be flocked by artistic people. Guests might be more 30-sh, and could be good environment?
-‘Jet Set’: Advertising itself as expensive club, so for only for New Russians? The local contact said to me once that a new club in Dumskaya Ulitsa is such nature too: only sons/daughters of new rich parents visit. What is it like? Maybe just waste of money? Or some WG or semi-WG works?
-La Playazh: “A fancy big dancle club, often hosts performances by russian pop stars. . Striptease, pricy bar and admission, now also combined with casino and restaurant.” hmm seems interesting.
-‘Havana Club’ Local contact said this is good atmosphere, meaning no WG, perhaps. Good place for Salsa? At least finding excuse to chat is easy. I definitely visit here next time.
-‘Hollywood Nites’ is advertising itself as Casino complex. ‘Nevsky Melody’ also advertise itself as Casino and entertainment complex. How are these places?
Finding WGs in bars may be the old phenomena, and could be that clubs are getting more uptight? In that case, our choice is either aiming one-night-stand (as many British girls continue to venture) in the clubbing or visit Salon? That is slightly sad, and I cannot help but thinking visiting Moldova as soon as I can.
GA
Then give me a range. That is why I hate dealing with Russians.
[QUOTE=Elena Exbi]I dont haggling! I've stable price for my comission.
You pay models by itself stipulated earlier amount.
I've different models, some models have very big experience and they have more high price. Other model have not big experience and have low price.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Guy #2]Then give me a range. That is why I hate dealing with Russians.[/QUOTE]
Guy 2,
She runs a good respectable business. She has a set commission and asks the girls what their prices are. I found the girls' prices to be mostly uniform, but some girls who have been in films for major labels can ask more. She doesn't want to advertise her commissions or the range of prices that her girls ask where everyone can see, including her competitors and all the girls who work for her and for her competitors. I think this is probably ultimately to our benefit, so why not just send her an email and do it her way instead of in public.
I work with different models. Some models known and popular in Europe and have very greater fees.Other less popular and ready to shoots on small price.
You offer to pay all equally?
Not problem. The Desire of the client - a law.
You may pay all equally.
But this will be an upper price since popular russian models will not shoots for
low price.
You not will see for low price:
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[url]http://www.eurobabeindex.com/sbandoindex/anna.html[/url]
[url]http://www.eurobabeindex.com/sbandoindex/camilla_2.html[/url]
[url]http://www.eurobabeindex.com/sbandoindex/wendy.html[/url]
[url]http://www.eurobabeindex.com/sbandoindex/lara_2.html[/url]
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[url]http://www.eurobabeindex.com/sbandoindex/maya_2.html[/url]
But for low price you can shoots other (also very nice) girls:
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[url]http://www.eurobabeindex.com/sbandoindex/natali.html[/url]
[url]http://www.eurobabeindex.com/sbandoindex/niki_2.html[/url]
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If you do not see differences between they - see please their list with whom they worked .Maybe you will understand why models have different price.
George A,
You really did pretty good for a first trip to Pitr, you were out in the clubs trying and that's where you should be.
University girls are the most logical target for foreigners, since they will likely speak some English, usually have no money, and are less likely to be pursuing "careers" as party girls for the local rich and elite. They are also generally more interested in foreign cultures and people from other cultures than normal "working class" girls might be.
I don't think posing as something you aren't is a good idea. You should be truthful about your occupation, since they will likely ask you about it, but should also make sure to give them the impression that you will be a frequent visitor to St.Petersburg. Some girls won't care and may be only looking for short-term fun, but most girls are more interested in guys that they think they can see more than just one time.
"New Academy of Fine Arts is said to have various posting for party, which is said to be friendly but also I would need to be alerted for element of gay culture in this."
Any party is a good party and don't worry about gay guys... they aren't your competition.
"I also would like to enquie: is the low-key street seduction OK in SPb?"
I always say there is no wrong place to meet girls. I am not sure how effective "street seduction" will be... most people on the street are going somewhere, but you can certainly try. I still tend to meet most of my girls in clubs or the internet. But try talking to girls on the street, why not?
"A Kazakh man... he claimed he change girls constantly with this method. Really?"
He "claimed".... claim is the key word. You also have to ask yourself what kind of success a Kazakh security guard is going to have with girls. Maybe he's a smooth talker, but normally Kazazh + low-paying job don't add up to success with cute girls.
I've been to most the places you mention, I myself have never found a place that is truly superior than others for meeting girls. Actually, Rossi's is one of the better places. I don't think I have ever gone there without at least getting some snogging action. Decadance is also good, as is Plaza and several other clubs.
Havana Club doesnt play latin music, its a normal club for students. Good action in the week sometimes, since students get free admission.
Metro is OK, especially if you live in that area of town (down the street from the train station on Ligovsky Prospekt). Not my favorite place, but can be ok.
Jet Set/Onegin etc. are more Moscow-like in terms of their "eliteness", meaning lots of babe... but also meaniing that most of those babes are somehow "with someone" already. It's a mixed bag there.
Generally speaking though, IMHO your success with girls depends less on which club you go to and more on you and your natural ability to pick up women.
Thank you for the comment, Dr! I feel your deep respect to Russian culture too. You are respectable.
'your success with girls depends less on which club you go to and more on you and your natural ability to pick up women.'
The comment is strikingly truth, and I should always keep it in mind. Human ability is always the decisive factor! I should destruct the false idea that being foreign can attract girls. So is Kiev, so is Chisinau. That adds great purposefulness and sacred fighting guts for my usual training in Benelux cities.
Just to make modest contribution in SPb thread, I wished inform upon Internet connection in SPb, which is vital for Internet seduction. I apologize if you think this is irrelevant, but it was relatively hard for despatched personnel from foreign head office to seek ISP in the SPb residential appartment. The IS Dpt of my humble company told me following are recommended ISPs:
-PeterStar (Wireless 512kbps approx 115 Euro/month 1GB limit, additional per 100kB) [url]www.peterstar.com[/url]
-Quantum (Wireless Access simlar to Peterstar) [url]www.quantum.ru[/url]
-Web-Plus (ADSL 256kbps approx 38 Euro per month) [url]www.webplus.ru[/url]
I was surprized that ADSL coverage is still limited. In contrast with the Benelux, it is still less (Example: Brussels 4.5Mbps for 34 Euro/month, some area already VDSL with 9 Mbps 50 Euro/m, 17 Mbps 330 Euro/m) but having 512kbps is not inconvenient for love.mail.ru.
Next visit should be in early Oct, and I presume more student, more action possible. I wish to submit detaied field report, if I could. Rossi's is close to Vaganova school. I dreamt if I could meet the ballet dancer in the school. Such a world-famous!
GA
[QUOTE=George Assaii]-PeterStar (Wireless 512kbps approx 115 Euro/month 1GB limit, additional per 100kB) [url]www.peterstar.com[/url]
-Quantum (Wireless Access simlar to Peterstar) [url]www.quantum.ru[/url]
-Web-Plus (ADSL 256kbps approx 38 Euro per month) [url]www.webplus.ru[/url]
GA[/QUOTE]
Hi guys!
Those are most expensive providers in the city. Every part of St.Petersburg has many of small ISP which are not listen anywhere.... Everything depends on your place where you need to have connection. I have 256kb at my home for about 20 euro only...
Also you can try the new ADSL service of phone network of SPb. [url]http://avangard-dsl.ru/[/url]
[QUOTE=VinceVoyeur]Elena, you found my lovely Alexandra (sasha)?
If one guy or one girl know where is she and do that I meet her I will give to this guy or girl between 300 and 1000€ for the service.
I need your help[/QUOTE]I need all links on work this model. I'll find her through actors with which she shoots.
Elena, my love,
I'm thinking of visiting St Petersburg next summer, so I'm wondernig if there's anything you can do for me, and what you would charge.
I usually like a beautiful tour guide to provide (ahem) full service.
Read earlier reports here on this place and decided to give it a try. Good decision.
It’s a 15 minute walk from the Park Pobedy Metro station in a very classy part of town, just off a wide boulevard – 179 Moskovsky. Next to the Jaguar dealership as advertised.
Paid 3900 rubles for a 60 minutes soap massage with Veronika. Big tits, and very tall. An amazon. No English, so a silent hour it was.
I learned the meaning of “Russian.” A body slide using those big bazookas, after she covered me with soap suds, taking all the time necessary, and I had a very strong release. It’s a totally different experience from the full service providers (which this place isn’t) but sometimes a massage is a welcome change.
As I’ve walked around here (and Moscow) it’s very obvious how tall many Russian women are. Blonde, thin, tall. It raises the question (in my mind) about the possibilities of a standing fuck.
You can’t do this with most women (well, not if you’re much taller) but it could be very possible here. What would we call this? Coitus erectus? Just imagine – gazing right into the eyes of an amazon blonde (or brunette), holding those tits without straining to reach, buried to the hilt whilst standing close together.
Russian women are amazing.
On business and will of course be participating in my hobby..
Have been there a few times and always had fun.
Anyone got any current/recent recommendations? I like girls with large natural breasts..'mmmm, breasts..'
Thanks for your help!
After the last scene Lena came by to greet me and collect her commissions. She did not ask for any money until the very end and of course she did not charge me any commissions for the girls who cancelled. She was charming and beautiful. Someone posted pictures of her a couple of months ago and the pictures did not do her justice. Like most of her models, she looks better in person. I asked her a lot of questions about the business in Russia and she gave me good information, much of which I have repeated above.
I told her about the close calls we had with the cleaning lady. She looked puzzled and asked why I didn’t just call up the manager and tell her that I was doing porno shoots and could I please not be disturbed during these times. She said that she knew the manager, she had filmed in the building before, and that it was no problem doing porno there. Sigh! Only in Russia!
I asked her if it was ok to post a long description of what I did and she said yes. I asked her if it was ok to post some of my pictures and she smiled and said that they are my pictures, I can do whatever I want with them. I told her I didn’t think many people knew much about Mixphoto and that if they did more people would come to Saint Petersburg. I hope this is true, and if you’ve made it this far I hope you enjoyed reading about it.
(And lastly, I of course have some amazing pics, but I didn’t know about the size limitation until just now, so I will post them later after I have a chance to shrink them. Stay tuned
Sveta 333 was my only other repeat. I thought she was gorgeous. Tanya 102 looked alright in her Mixphoto pictures but she was much better looking in person. Lena told me afterwards that her photos are four years old.
A lot of the action took place in the sunroom. I made out with Tanya and then with Sveta. I left the girls by themselves and slowly joined in. I brought Sveta to the windowsill, had her sit on me, and just held her and kissed her while Tanya licked her and people walked down the sidewalk below us. Then we put Tanya on the windowsill and Sveta and I went down on her. I sat in the red chair and RCGed Sveta while she made out with Tanya.
We moved to the bed where I spooned Sveta while she licked Tanya’s pussy. Then I had Tanya get on top of me and Sveta sit on my face while the girls kissed and also swapped places a couple of times. They did a double blowjob on me and then we did lots of fucking with the girls together kissing each other. I came inside Tanya, but we kept going. I tried to cum again in both their mouths at the 45 minute mark on the video, but I wasn’t ready yet. We did another 15 minutes of jacking, blowing, and the girls kissing incredibly and finally I managed a few more drops. I knew I was spent and could go home exhausted and happy.
So I had done my first gang bang and enjoyed it immensely even if there had been a couple of rough edges. But now I was going to do my first and only DP gangbang with Katya 376.
Katya reminded me of Anna Nicole Smith. She was brash and bratty. After we did the scene I found several wads of her gum stuck on tables and countertops. She’s hot, but she might not be the one you want to take home to mom. She was tall and while she was fit and had a flat stomach she definitely did not have a Kate Moss figure. One of the other models was late, so while we waited we looked up pictures of her on the internet. When we found some she wanted everyone to look at them. I had become comfortable enough with everyone that I would take out my computer and use it in front of them and even let them surf the net on it while I was watching. But I got concerned when I went to the bathroom, came back, and found one of the guys saving porn images from the internet to my computer to email to himself. I got alarmed and asked him where he had saved the images and he didn’t know. I found them in the folder with my bank records (the last folder I had saved anything to from the internet). Just what I needed; to check my bank account at work and have this guy’s favorite photos pop up.
I started with Katya standing up in front of the bed. We began with kissing and groping and then she got on her knees and did a 5-way blow job. She was great at keeping at least 1 dick in her mouth the whole time and at blowing two guys at once for long stretches. I got on the floor and she sat on me while she kept blowing the others. After a minute I had to slow down and finally stop moving inside her to keep from popping too early. On the video you can hear the traffic noise suddenly get louder because someone had to open the window to let out the steam.
We moved to the sofa and everyone took at least one turn inside her. Then we moved to the bed for the DP. She got on top of me, another guy did the anal, and she stuffed two dicks in her mouth. I exploded inside her and it was fantastic. Then two other guys DPed her RCG while I got blown, along with the others, to try to get hard again. One of the guys cream pied her pussy in the DP and a couple of minutes later two guys came in her mouth simultaneously. Unfortunately the last guy couldn’t cum, so I cream pied her and the scene ended with her waving goodbye. (He’s a professional fucker and he can’t cum once? He’s a kid compared to me and I came four times that afternoon!) The scene lasted 50 minutes and there were no signs at all that it was too long.
I had done MMMF with a few girls, but I still hadn’t done a real gang bang, so I asked if I could see Vika 315 with four other men and she said yes, but it was without DP or DV. When Vika showed up she was cheery and seemed happy that I had requested her again. But she said there was a small problem and wanted to know if it was ok with me. She pulled down her pants and showed me her butt which was covered with black and blue welts. I asked what had happened and if she was ok and she said everything was fine; it was just that she had done an S&M scene the day before. Well, at least I wasn’t worried that she would think I was some kind of pervert for wanting to do a gangbang with her.
We started on the sofa. I made out with her and the guys joined one at a time. We did a 5-way blowjob and then I RCGed her while she did a 4-way blowjob. I thought of CGing her, but I was trying to keep her black and blue marks out of the picture. We put her on her back on the bed and all took turns with her. Two of the guys came early, one on her back which wasn’t so sexy, and the other in her mouth when I wasn’t looking, which was annoying. Then the other two guys took a long time to cum, which meant that Vika got tired and I felt a little badly for her, but we got to do a lot more fucking and I think it looks ok in a gang bang for the girl to look tired as long as she is not too uncomfortable. It was fun to do a long scene. I started to get tired and it seemed to drag at times when we were doing it, but looking at it on film afterwards it all looks great. Finally the last two guys both came and one of the other guys tried to cum a second time and couldn’t, so I came in her mouth and we ended the scene with about 60 minutes of footage.
I was supposed to do a scene with Polina 319 and Anna 403, but when I met Andrei he told me that Anna had cancelled. I quickly lost all the sympathy I had had for her the other day when it was she who had been stood up by another model. However, Lena already had a couple of substitutes available for me and I picked Katya 320. Katya is a major star who has worked for many studios including my favorite, Swank. Her most common stage name is Lisa or Liz. I couldn’t find Polina anywhere on the net. I picked her just because her pictures on the Mixphoto website looked good.
I started with Katya, making out with her, and then swapped her for Polina. Then Katya came back and we did a double blowjob. When I was making out with Polina it seemed to bother Katya that she was left out and she rejoined us before I signaled to her to do so. Next I left the girls alone for a while to get to know each other better. Gradually I joined back in, but it was still more about them together than about me. They got down and did a kissy double blowjob on me and then the other guy joined in.
I sat on the windowsill and Katya got on top of me RCG in the window. The other guy doggied Polina against Katya and the girls hugged and kissed while we fucked them. In the video you can see the traffic on the street below us. Next we swapped the girls.
We moved to the sofa and did more fucking with the girls kissing in different positions. I RCGed Polina and had Katya get down and lick her while the other guy doggied her. I tried to get her to lick me while I was fucking Polina but she moved up, kissed me, and whispered in my ear “Pharmatex”. She did a little p2m right after than, but I didn’t ask her to do any more.
We moved to the bed and did more fucking with lesbian kissing and constant swapping of girls. The girls heads were usually together, so I could kiss both of them too. So could the other guy, but since I was the director he let me have more than my share. I had Katya lie on top of Polina so they could kiss and blow the other guy while I moved from pussy to pussy. Did I mention that this was fun?
There was a minor glitch when the other guy got up and went to the bathroom inexplicably. He came back and I did an amazing double cum shot in the girls’ mouths while they kissed. Now it was his turn to cum, but he said that he had just cum in the bathroom. I tried to explain that this wasn’t so sexy. The only sense I can make out of that is that he must have been trying not to cum too soon and had gone to the bathroom to try to cool down, but it had been too late. Anyway, this was both bad and good. Bad that he wasn’t going to be able to cum on cue, but good because now we could keep going until he was ready again.
At the 45 minute mark on the video the girls asked to take a break, which we did. We restarted with a double-double blowjob to get the guys hard again and back to fucking where the other guy cream pied Katya and I had Polina clean it up while I doggied her. Then I also cream pied Katya and had Polina clean it up again. We ended with the girls kissing. We filmed a total of 55 minutes and the girls seemed tired at the end, but their efforts were not wasted. It was superb, and the video is fantastic.
I was scheduled to do a DP gangbang with Marina 336, but she cancelled. Lena had warned me ahead of time that Marina 336 was unreliable and was likely to cancel. I later saw on the website that Marina 336 is still working for Mixphoto, but she was suddenly only available for nude pictures. Later some of the other guys told me she wasn’t all that great anyway.
And fortunately Marina 334 was available. She is a star who has worked for Swank Video and who I had seen in films before ever learning about Mixphoto. I had wanted to do a shoot with her, and Lena said she was available, but then she mysteriously became unavailable. Lena later told me it was because she had gotten sick.
When she showed up she had had her hair done nicely with long elegant curls. We started in the sunroom with kissing and pawing and then sat her in one of the bright red dinner table chairs for a triple blowjob. Her blowjobs were slow and deep, even when she had two dicks in her mouth. Then I sat under her on the chair for RCG while she continued blowing the other guys.
Next we moved to the sofa where we did a quick and awkward RCG DV and then she got on me CG for a regular DP. We flipped her over again for some more RCG DV followed by RCG DP. We moved to the bed and did a long CG DP and I was about to cum, but I wanted to cum in RCG DP, so I got up and signaled for her to sit on the guy next to me. But she didn’t understand and she got on him CG and I didn’t want to do the anal, so I went to get a blowjob while the other two guys DPed her.
Now things went downhill some. She wouldn’t really suck, she would only put my dick in her mouth and keep it there without any movement, so I didn’t stay completely hard. After a couple of minutes I got everyone to understand that I wanted to be on top for a RCG DP, but when I tried to penetrate her with a semi-hard dick I couldn’t get in all the way. She stiffened her legs and seemed to be pushing towards the other guy who was doing the anal to keep him inside her, but that moved her away from me. I wasn’t sure if we were just having trouble finding the right position or if she was tired and was being difficult. Maybe we had DV and DPed her too much. I couldn’t get a good sensation. I put her on the bed and fucked her normally by myself for a minute and it was fine, so we tried the DP again, but as soon as the other guy entered her she pushed toward him and away from me and her legs stiffened up. I had to lift up high and chase her just to get in part way and I started to go soft again. I also started to sweat like a pig from the effort. When I look at the film it looks like I got good penetration, but it didn’t feel like it. Maybe it would have been ok if I hadn’t been having so much sex during the past few days, but there also would have been no problem if she had been better about finding a good position. We struggled for a while trying different positions for DP with blowjobs mixed in to keep me hard and it started to drag on with everyone wondering how long it was going to last. Finally we settled for ordinary non-DP sex and gave her a couple of cream pies and a shot in the mouth. On film it lasted for 80 minutes and some of it looks strained. This was the closest thing I had to a YMMV performance, but Marina put in a 100 percent effort for the first half hour and even when things dragged on she never complained.
405 Anna is a pretty big porn star. Her usual screen name is Priscilla. Like Julia 231 (Kristine) she starred in a great gangbang scene for Swank. I wanted to do a DP gangbang scene with her like the one I liked in that video but she no longer did anal. Many nice girls don’t stay in the business very long, and many that do downgrade their activities. Some stop doing anal, and some stop doing hardcore entirely, though they continue to pose for nude photos. Olga 312 (different from the Olga I saw) is a hot porn star who used to do gangbangs and DP and still works for Mixphoto. I wanted to do a scene with her but I was disappointed when Lena told me that as of about six months ago she only does nude pictures. Fortunately Anna 405 was still available for non-anal hardcore, so I asked for her for an MMFF scene.
Nastya and Anna were a good combination. They are both tall and thin. Anna has long black hair and Nastya has long blonde hair. In the sunroom we did a long three way make out followed by a double blowjob before the other guy joined us for a double-double blowjob. We moved to be bed and the two guys made out with Anna while Nastya licked her. After a couple of minutes I joined Nastya in licking Anna and then fucked Anna while Nastya licked me and did p2m. The girls gave a double blowjob to the other guy while I switched back and forth fucking them. The girls made out with each other while we fucked them, swapping girls often. We fucked both girls while they 69ed and I came inside Anna.
That might have been close to the end of the scene, but fortunately the other guy was Yuri, so while he got a double blowjob from the girls and tried unsuccessfully to cum on cue I had time to get hard again and fuck the girls for another 10 minutes. When he finally came it was a spectacular double cum shot with the girls sharing a cummy kiss while I fucked Nastya. Then I put Anna on her back and finished off inside her while she made out with Nastya (without cleaning up after the cum shot, of course).
My next two scenes that were scheduled were an MMFF with Natalie 52, Genya 422, and another guy followed by an MMMF DP gangbang with Galina 426. I went sightseeing in the morning and returned shortly before my 1:00 PM shoot. At 12:50 there was a knock on the door. It was the cleaning lady again and she wanted to come into the apartment, apparently to clean it. I didn’t think it would take long, so I said ok.
I had moved to yet another apartment, a great studio facing south with a small white sunroom that had large windows on two sides. The sunroom was obviously a great place to shoot because it was so light, so I had moved the small glass dinner table out of it and into the main room and replaced it with a stuffed chair. I had also taken the covers and pillows off of the bed and put them in the kitchen since I didn’t want people cumming on the pillows and sheets that I was going to have to sleep on that night. The still and video cameras were on the glass table.
She immediately got excited and I tried to communicate that I would move everything back before I left. She also went to the wall in the sunroom and looked for a wireless internet transmitter that had been plugged in there. I had moved it to the kitchen because it looked dorky so I didn’t want it showing in my video and because the kitchen was closer to the bed where I sat when I used the wireless internet and the signal had been weak.
She picked up the phone and called, then handed the receiver to me. It was the building manager again. She explained to me that the internet transmitter was part of a building network and it would only work properly if it were in the right position relative to the other transmitters in the building. Several other guests in apartments had no internet because I had moved the transmitter and could I please replace it. I said of course and the problem was solved. I was grateful that this had not happened an hour later when I was again in the middle of a scene. They would have been knocking and calling and I would have been telling them not to come into the apartment. I wondered how long it was going to be before they figured out what was going on.
When I went downstairs Natalie and the other guy were there, but no Genya. Also Andrei, my new cameraman, was there and he told me to go upstairs and check my email. I found a message from Lena saying that there was a problem with Galina and we needed to find a replacement. Rocco Siffreddi was in town shooting and Lena was having problems with her girls not showing up for shoots. She called some girls who were available on short notice, but I didn’t like any of them, and after a couple of messages back and forth with Lena and the passage of some time it became apparent that Genya wasn’t going to show up either.
I suggested cancelling the MMFF and asked Natalie if she would do the MMMF DP gangbang instead of Galina. Natalie said yes and when the other model arrived we got started. Natalie asked us what the plot was. Was it just sex? I told her no, that she was the Princess and that the men were heroes who were rescuing her from George Bush who wanted to keep her chaste.
Natalie, at 26, was the oldest girl I saw on my trip. She is thin and has silky long straight black hair and a big tattoo on her abdomen. She is from Siberia, near lake Baikal. I think she was the only girl I saw who was not from St. Petersburg. We started in the sunroom because the light was so good. There were other buildings around and I worried that people could look in our window and see what we were doing, but the windows had lightweight white shears that would partly block anyone’s view and everyone agreed that this was good enough. We made out standing up and then the other guys came over and she sat in the stuffed chair to give blowjobs. I got under her in the chair and she rode me while giving the others blowjobs. We moved to the bed to do the DP. In RCG DP I pulled out and came in her mouth and one of the other guys couldn’t hold back and also came in her mouth. For some reason wanted to go to the bathroom to clean off, which worked out well. Natalie asked if I wanted her to clean off too and I said no, so we cuddled for a few minutes for the camera with cum dripping down her chin and then restarted. The wait gave me time to recharge and join in the action when the other guy got back from the bathroom and we restarted. We didn’t do any more DP after that. We just fucked some more and then all cream pied her and came in her mouth.
Julia was the biggest star I did, at least up to that point. Her stage name in most of her films is Kristine. She did a great gangbang scene in Swank Extreme 2 and has worked for several major labels, including Anabolic and Evil Angel. She has a significant film career, but is only 21 years old. We did a gangbang with three men and DV.
The whole scene took place on the sofa where the light was good. We started with kissing and pawing, then triple bj. She was good at putting two dicks deep in her mouth. We took turns fucking her in different positions while she gave double blowjobs and then did DV in cowgirl and then RCG. The DV with her was the best of all because she was the least tight. We did two cream pies and two shots in her mouth. She had a huge smile on her face the whole time. The other guys really liked her too. I’m not writing as much about her as about the other girls, but that is in no way meant to suggest that she was any less good.
This was my first scene with two girls. Sveta’s pictures on the Mixphoto site look nice, but they are a terrible representation of what she is really like. She is an angel! She looks a bit pudgy in her photos, but in reality she is slim like a supermodel. She is quiet and shy, which I found sexy. Ira also looked beautiful and I don’t want to take anything away from her, but I was blown away by Sveta.
I also requested another guy to make it MMFF so we could do more combinations. We started with the girls on the sofa doing lesbian. They did fantastic deep kissing while rubbing each other and pussy licking. Then I joined them and we all made out with Sveta in the middle. We swapped Ira for the other guy and made out with Sveta MMF. We switched girls and it was Ira’s turn to make out with two guys and then give us a double blowjob. Then we swapped her for Sveta again so Sveta could give us a double blowjob. Then Ira came back and both girls gave double blowjobs to both guys together.
I fucked Sveta RCG on the sofa and tried to get Ira to lick my dick while I fucked Sveta and to do pussy to mouth, but there was a problem. She agreed to do it, but the Pharmatex tablets make the girls’ pussies taste bitter, so she did it only reluctantly. Same for Ira. If they licked me while I was fucking the other girl they would only touch me with the tip of their tongues, and if they did pussy to mouth they would wipe me off first with their hand and wouldn’t put it in far. Even when they licked pussy I could see that they wouldn’t stick their tongues in deep. This turned out to be a problem in all two girl scenes. When I licked their pussies I could taste it too and later that evening the tip of my tongue would be a little numb, so I could see why the girls didn’t like it. I’ve always wondered why porn films show ass to mouth all the time, which I find gross, and show pussy to mouth much more rarely. I used to think it was because that is what people wanted to see, but now I figure maybe it is because most girls in porn use these tablets.
I tipped Sveta over and spooned her and had Ira sit on her face. Then the other guy came over and fucked Ira while I fucked Sveta and the girls 69ed. We moved to the bedroom and we both spooned the girls while they faced each other making out. Every minute or so we changed girls. Then, in spite of the problem with the Pharmatex tablet, I got Sveta to move down and lick me and Ira while she got fucked by the other guy and I fucked Ira.
I started to cum inside Ira but pulled out half way through and finished in Sveta’s mouth. I reinserted inside Ira and went back to Sveta’s mouth. I was about to get Sveta to do the cleanup when the cameraman’s lousy cell phone went off with a blaring ring tone. I shouted at him to turn it off and he put down the camera, at which point the girls leapt up and ran to the bathroom to wash off. It was a spectacular cum shot and the tail end of it was spoiled. I was pissed, but we had done the good part and we kept going when they got back from the bathroom. We did a cream pie with awesome kissing between the girls and a double cum shot which was ok except that I only had a couple of drops left. The girls finished up with some more lesbian, and in the end it was great.
The second shoot was supposed to be with Anna 403 and Yana 423, but Yana called at the very last minute and said that she had just gotten her period. Lena had told me early on that Yana was unreliable and I think she doubted the excuse, particularly coming as it did at the last minute. She tried to find another girl for the shoot, but there weren’t any that I liked that were available on such short notice, so we cancelled. Anna seemed disappointed, but I needed a rest anyway. I had been looking forward to my first two girl scene, but I had another one lined up for the next morning.
Lena picked Dasha for me because I said I wanted to do DV and Dasha would do it. I hesitated at first because there were only two photos on the Mixphoto website and neither one looked great, but then I found good photos of her on other websites and realized that she is attractive and also a pretty big star. I found a lot of stuff that she does that I don’t like and that is not for the faint of heart, but she has done enough material that I do like, including some scenes for Swank. She is 22.
I went out to buy refreshments to serve to people when they showed up and when I returned the door next to my apartment was open. The cleaning lady was there and I saw that the apartment was vacant so I asked her if I could change apartments now and she said yes. I called Slava (Lena had given me a SIM card for my mobile phone) and told him I would be down to meet everyone a few minutes late. The cleaning lady was helpful and I tipped her $5. She looked stunned, as if I had just signed over my winning lottery ticket to her. I was pleased that I had made her happy, but it made me sad to realize how little she must have. I was also comforted by the thought that she might be less inclined to make a scene if she suspected what we were doing.
With Dasha all the action was on the sofa. We started with kissing and groping and then fucking with blowjobs. The action was similar with each girl, but each time we used different furniture or in this case a different apartment, and we tried different positions, so there was enough variation. The DV with Dasha was also very tight, but it was much better than with Vika. It was nice; still not as easy as I had hoped, but good enough that we did it for a long time in CG, RCG, and back to CG. One of the guys couldn’t hold back and popped early, so for most of the scene she had cum all over her mouth and chin. The oral cum shots she did were just as spectacular as with the other girls, and Dasha let us cream pie her, which was nice. After the first guy came I cream pied her in DV and then it was Yuri’s turn to cum. He had trouble performing on cue again, but luckily I had anticipated this and made sure that I was getting blown by Dasha and then fucking her when it was his turn, so instead of waiting and watching a bored girl I got in an extra 15 minutes or so of action while he was struggling and no one could complain that I was taking too long. I was thinking that I should specifically request him for all my remaining shoots. After Yuri finally came in her mouth the other guy had another pop left in him, so he cream pied her and I finished up with sloppy seconds.
I had found Vika doing double vaginal in a video on a website so I asked Lena if I and two other guys could do it with her and the answer was yes. Vika was also much hotter in person than in the photos on the Mixphoto website. She had a tight perfect body with fantastic C cups. She is 21 years old.
She started with a striptease and with her too I could see her professionalism. She had a fantastic smile and knew how to move and look into the camera. Then we kissed and pawed her, took turns spooning her on the sofa while she gave double blowjobs, and then did the same thing in missionary. She got down and gave us a triple blowjob followed by a cowgirl DV on the sofa while the third guy sat on the sofa back and got a blowjob. The DV was a problem, however. Vika was tight, and the other male actors were big. We crammed inside her but there wasn’t enough space and I wasn’t enjoying it the way I had hoped. It didn’t feel natural. My dick was being squeezed hard. We tried RCG too, but had the same problem.
After a short while Vika agreed. She said that we had made her sore and asked to take a break. After that we all agreed to forget the DV. We moved to the bedroom and took turns fucking her in different positions—spoon, missionary, sitting on one of us—while she gave double blowjobs. She also said she didn’t want to do cream pies because she was sore from the DV, though ordinarily she does them. The other two guys both came in her mouth simultaneously while I was fucking her and then I added to the mess a minute later. She did the cum shots every bit as intensely erotically and professionally perfectly as Olga did.
The first shoot was with Olga 282. I hate using numbers to describe the girls, but many of them share the same first name, so it is necessary. All of the girls are identified with a number and a first name, which I think is usually or even always their real name. A couple of them showed me their passports, which they are required to bring to the shoots to prove their age.
I had seen pictures of Olga on the web and rented a couple of her movies, so I knew she looked hot, but I was floored when I saw her in person. She was a goddess! She is a perfect thin 22 year old with an angelic face. If I had met her in a club and was about to have plain MF sex with her I would have been going crazy. But I wasn’t just going to have plain MF sex with her; I was going to gangbang her with two other guys and we were going to DP her bareback!
I first saw her when my cameraman, Slava, and I returned from the clinic where I had just been tested. We were 20 minutes late for the shoot and she was waiting outside the main gate along with one of the male models. The third model, Yuri, hadn’t arrived, so we hung out and talked. Olga was the most businesslike of all the girls, asking for a description of what we were going to do. I don’t know if she is always the most businesslike or if once I had done a shoot with her the word was out that I was ok and the other girls were more relaxed. I said that we would start out by kissing and she said “kissing?!” My heart sank. Was this going to be RLD sex but with my misery immortalized on film? Olga asked if I had any “rubricant” and since I wasn’t expecting this to be a liturgical DP I looked at Slava who said she meant “lubricant”. I said I didn’t have any and he said that we needed to go to the pharmacy and get some.
This was an awkward moment. All of my possessions were in that apartment, including all my money for all the shoots and my passport and ticket, though these items were of course hidden away. There was no doorman, only a series of heavy locked doors to protect against someone outside from getting in. There was no protection at all against someone who was already in the apartment walking out with all my stuff or going through it for valuables or personal information. It seemed quite unlikely to happen, but I was going to have a hell of a time explaining it if it did. I should have just given Slava some cash and asked him to go by himself, but that option didn’t occur to me so I took a chance and accompanied him to the pharmacy. It turned out fine, of course. Buying the Pharmatex wasn’t too bad, but getting the lubricant was embarrassing because it was specifically labeled as intended for anal sex and there I was paying for it after a Russian guy half my age had picked it out and handed it to me.
We got back to the apartment and Yuri still wasn’t there. He finally showed up an hour late. I had seen movies where the models were giant bodybuilders and was worried that if that were the case with the guys I had hired I was going to look and feel like a shrimp among them, but Lena’s models were average size and normal looking, which was good. Everyone showered, using just the two towels that were provided with the apartment for the four of us (yuck!). Now it was time to start and I was asked for stage directions, which fortunately I had thought about beforehand. I described the scene to everyone and we started. First I wanted to make out alone with Olga and then have the men join us one at a time, but I must have acted indecisive because one of the guys grabbed her and started. We all pawed Olga and kissed her. The kissing was hot and passionate. There was no problem with it at all and I was puzzled about her response when I had mentioned it earlier. Maybe she thought it was silly to bother mentioning it at all or thought that I meant that we would do only kissing and nothing else.
She got down and gave us a triple blowjob and I couldn’t believe it! It was as hot as any porn movie I had ever seen. Olga had no problem keeping her mouth stuffed with at least one and sometimes two or even three dicks. There was a small wooden coffee table by the door and we sat her on it and took turns banging her with quick changes, each turn lasting 10 seconds or so. Guys were standing on chairs to get blowjobs. We were all pawing her. Olga and the guys were all moaning loudly. (Interestingly, Olga was moaning “oh, yeah!” in English.) It was going great and kept getting hotter and hotter when suddenly,
Bang! Bang! Bang! Bang! Bang! Bang!
That wasn’t us banging Olga. Someone was knocking loudly at the door.
“Umm ... just a minute ...” I hurriedly ushered everyone into the tiny bathroom—three naked actors and Slava—and grabbed one of the skanky wet towels to put around me. I hoped my hard on wouldn’t show, or that if it did it would at least look like I was having normal sex with just one girl. Had it been obvious from the sounds that there was more than one man and one woman having sex? I opened the door a few inches with an idiotic expression on my face. It was the cleaning woman. She began yammering in Russian and pointing to the door to the apartment next to mine a couple of feet away. Then she tried to come in. “No! No! No! No! No! No! No! .... We’ll keep it down! Sorry if we disturbed anyone!” I blocked the doorway with an alarmed expression on my face. Looking in she saw that I had rearranged all the furniture. I had moved the sofa so that it was in front of the window and had made sure any other places we might have sex would also be near a window to get the daylight. The video camera out on the coffee table with a long power cord attached. She gave me an exasperated look and left. I closed the door and waited a minute. The coast appeared to be clear.
I let everyone out of the bathroom and we moved to the bedroom. I asked everyone to keep it down and we restarted. After more straight sex it was time for me to do DP with a porn star. Olga got on top of me, one of the guys got behind her, and the other stood on the bed to get a blowjob. Dealing with the cleaning lady had caused me to deflate some, but I was still hard enough to enter Olga. The guy behind her entered her and before I knew it we were doing DP! She started sucking the other guy to make her airtight and once we got moving I quickly got completely hard again. We picked up the pace and she started moaning. And dear reader it was phenomenal! I was starring in a DP gangbang of a superhuman porn goddess! It was the ninth inning of game seven of the World Series in Yankee Stadium and I was on the pitcher’s mound! The greatest rock and roll band in the world had just been introduced to the entire stadium and I was running out on stage to play lead guitar!! I was the King of the World!!! ...
Ring! Ring! Ring! Ring! Ring! Ring! Ring! Ring! Ring!
It was the telephone. Apparently this problem wasn’t going to go away so easily. This was a potential catastrophe! What was I going to tell Lena? That I had to cancel all the shoots that had taken 200 emails to arrange? Were the police going to be involved? I picked up the phone. It was the manager of the apartment building. She spoke good English so I wasn’t going to be able to get rid of her by babbling a couple of things she didn’t understand and hanging up. She began explaining to me ... She runs a respectable business. Several guests had called her to complain about outrageous noises coming out of my apartment. She was on her way upstairs and demanded to be let in right away to see for herself what was going on there. The security guard, a bodybuilder, was with her ... Well, actually that’s what I was afraid she was going to say, but it’s not what she really said. Here’s some background and then what she really said ...Instead of giving me the apartment that I had originally requested she had put me in a different but roughly similar one. It was just as nice, but was darker and the bedroom was smaller, so it was less good for shooting and I had sent her an email asking if I could move to my first choice. Well my first choice was available now and I could move. It was right next door, which is why the cleaning lady had been pointing to that door. Sigh! All of this had nothing at all to do with the fact that we were gangbanging a porn chick in her place. I thanked her for the offer but told her that moving would be inconvenient at the current juncture (though I would have loved to say yes just to see the look on the cleaning lady’s face when I ushered the naked actors into the new apartment).
I was relieved, but meanwhile I had lost more wood than the Amazon rainforest. I let the other two guys DP Olga while she blew me to get me hard again. Then I was able to do the vaginal part of a reverse cowgirl DP. I can’t say it wasn’t hot, and it lasted for a long time, but the distractions definitely took a toll on the enjoyment and the spontaneity. There was another minor disappointment when Olga wouldn’t do a cream pie. She said we could only come in her mouth or her ass (?!). So I had everyone cum in her mouth. She opened wide and stuck out her tongue. She looked into the camera, made great hot sexy faces (but not overly exaggerated), and made sure the cum ran all over her face, down her chin, and onto her tits. The first guy to cum accidentally missed and shot half of his first blast onto my leg, which was weird. Yuri, the one who was an hour late, took 15 minutes to cum, so there is a long chunk of video with him jacking off by Olga’s face while she just looks bored (but bored with cum all over her face, so maybe the segment is worth keeping). I waited to go last. It was great to go straight from her pussy to her mouth without having to struggle with pulling off a condom. After everyone had finished she continued to play to the camera with cum dripping down her. It was spectacular! It was clear as a mountain stream on Olympus that she was a pro, and I mean that only in the most positive way. She knew exactly what to do and how to look. The only bad part was that I didn’t think she would marry me if I asked.
I only learned about the agencies that operate in St. Petersburg a couple of months ago and coincidentally I happened to be going to Eastern Europe on business and was able to make a side trip to check it out. What I had discovered dawned on me only slowly. At first I thought these girls were just escorts who agreed to be filmed. Then I realized that these were real porn actresses who made movies that people buy, though I figured they probably only made obscure films. Then I realized that some of these girls were in my favorite scenes in my favorite movies from major overseas studios. Lastly I realized that if I did a scene with one of them I wasn’t restricted to just one on one sex or maybe two girls like I would be with an escort service; I could do just about any scene I had ever seen in any movie as long as I could afford to hire the people involved.
I emailed Lena at Mixphoto and she responded right away. Her English is limited, but we managed to understand each other well enough to do business. I went crazy every time I got an email from her. I started to wonder if she was telling me the truth about what these girls would do or if her English was just so limited that she had never learned how to say “no”. I creamed in my pants a couple of times writing emails to her about the scenes we were organizing. I found a couple of great sites that track Eastern European actresses (eurobabeindex.com and whosethatpornstar.co.uk) which helped me figure out who the big stars were. I definitely wanted to do a couple of big names, though it was also important to me to see the best looking girls too.
I did 12 shoots over a period of about a week. They were:
282 Olga MMMF DP
315 Vika MMMF DV
329 Dasha MMMF DV
231 Julia MMMF DV
333 Sveta + 353 Ira MMFF
52 Natali MMMF-DP
418 Nastya and 405 Anna MMFF
334 Marina MMMF-DP
319 Polina and 320 Katya MMFF
315 Vika MMMMMF
376 Katya MMMMMF-DP
102 Tanya and 333 Sveta MFF
Every single girl was beautiful; more beautiful than in their pictures on the Mixphoto website. Every single girl was charming, willing, energetic, and professional in their performance. There is no YMMV; your mileage does not vary. There were no duds, no ripoffs, no lazy performers, no last minute understandings about services, no girls in a bad mood, no complaining, no little rules about what she likes and doesn’t like. Just great porno group sex the way God intended it to be.
Most of the scenes took up 45 to 60 minutes of video. A couple lasted 75 or 80 minutes when one of the guys couldn’t cum or there was a miscommunication about when to end the scene and in those cases more was less because everyone, especially the girl(s), got tired, and the action got repetitive and bland. An entire shoot lasted for 2 or 3 hours because of waiting for people to show up late, showering before and after, pauses, and some time spent talking or just not being focused. A typical porn scene in a commercial video lasts only 20 or 25 minutes, but that is after editing. Still, my guess is that I did at least as much as the actors do in a typical porn shoot. I would have been happy to continue all day with any of these girls if there had been no time limit at all, but I was always pretty satisfied at the end of each scene.
I was the director of all my scenes. The models asked me what to do and when. If there were men in the scene they asked me when they should cum and where (mouth, cream pie, tits). I could tell the women where to stand, sit, or lie, when and how to move, whether to look at the camera or not, whether to kiss, suck or fuck, whether to smile or moan ... All the time there was a presumption that I would be the center of attention. In gangbang scenes I usually started with the girl by myself. If there were 3 men getting blowjobs I would be in the middle. When we did airtight DP I got to pick my hole. I was never interested in doing anal, so the other guys did the anal for the DP. I am quite turned off by ass to mouth, so I instructed any guy who did anal to wash off before putting his dick in the girl’s mouth.
Lena was terrific about arranging the shoots. She sent me nearly 200 emails answering all kinds of questions that I had (most of which I am hopefully answering here for all of you who are interested), quoting me prices, and negotiating with the girls for me. She gave me the impression that she was more on my side than on the girls’ side, but maybe the girls feel like it is the reverse. Maybe Lena is just good at making everyone happy.
You can see from the scenes I did that I wasn’t interested in plain vanilla sex. I wanted to do crazy things I had seen in movies, especially gangbangs and triple penetration, so we sometimes had to go through several girls before we found ones who would do what I wanted at a price that I found reasonable. Almost all of the girls who do anal will do DP and gangbangs, but the prices they ask vary a lot, and Lena was patient about helping me find affordable models. She even found some girls who would do double vaginal.
Some of the models’ punctuality was less than professional. A few of the models cancelled at the last minute and had to be replaced and in two cases we couldn’t find a replacement that I liked and the shoot was cancelled. Rocco Sifreddi happened to be in town shooting and he stole a couple of my girls, so that was an unusual situation. I didn’t mind much. I don’t get to St. Petersburg often, so I set up two shoots a day to make the most of my time. It was often possible to cum twice in one shoot, so I was pushing my stamina to the limit and when a shoot was cancelled I needed the rest anyway. When one of the models was simply late it wasn’t to bad either as long as a girl was there because that meant I got to hang out with a porn star. Unfortunately, though, none of them spoke more than a couple of words of English, so any meaningful conversation had to be interpreted by my cameraman. Lena said that she has never had so much trouble with her models cancelling or showing up late and she even fired a couple of models because they stood me up without good excuses. She sent me a funny and uncharacteristic email where she apologized and then ranted a little about girls who “have nothing but wind in their heads”.
I brought my own amateur video camera and a digital snapshot camera. Lena found me a couple of young guys, students, who weren’t professional cameramen and had no equipment, but they agreed to hold my cameras for a small fee per shoot. Only one of them worked for me at a time, so they had to juggle both my video camera and my still camera. One of them was much better at it than the other, as you will see if you look at the photos. The shoots were scheduled during the day, so I relied on sunlight for lighting and if a shoot lasted into the late afternoon the images were less good. I started out in a dark apartment with a northern exposure, but then moved to a slightly better one and then to a perfect one with a southern exposure and a wonderful sunroom that always had great light. When Lena came by to see me at the end of my stay when I was in the nice apartment she said recognized it and that she had done shoots there. That made me feel like I was really at ground zero in the Russian porn industry.
All of the girls I saw looked better than in their Mixphoto pictures, but I’m not sure that is always the case. There were a couple of girls who I did not pick who looked good in their pictures, but then I found more recent pictures in which they had gotten fat. I don’t know for sure what they would have looked like in reality, but in a couple of cases the other guys confirmed to me that the girls who had gotten fat weren’t so interesting anymore. I think in most cases the girl looks better than in her Mixphoto photos, but to be sure it is better to find other photos online.
Mixphoto is a first class adult talent agency that provides models (women and men) and cameramen with equipment for porn shoots. They do business with major studios who shoot their own movies, with independent distributors who order “custom content” (pictures or videos that they sell or put on websites and charge for access), and with tourists who are interested in making films for private use. Their prices vary depending on the clients, with the major studios paying the most and the tourists paying the least. One of my cameramen told me that the girls actually prefer the tourist jobs because they like the variety, whereas the studio jobs are always the same scenes with the same people and get monotonous.
The prices are a sensitive topic since not all girls charge the same amounts for the same type of client, so please don’t ask, and if you find out please don’t post about it. You need to ask about individual girls and indicate how many girls you want (and how many men, if any) and whether you want anything unusual, like anal. CIM is always taken for granted. The cost is greater than for hiring an escort, but it is not exorbitant. It is much less expensive in St. Petersburg than in Budapest or Prague where similar opportunities exist, and if they would even let you do it in America you certainly wouldn’t be able to afford it. Mixphoto is run by a charming (and beautiful) woman named Elena, or Lena, who once worked as an adult actress herself.
Mixphoto is not an escort agency. The girls who work for them consider themselves to be actresses, not escorts, and are not interested in working as escorts. If you just want to have sex with a beautiful girl but do not want to film it you should look elsewhere.
If you want, as with just about any porn movie, the sex can be bareback. To do bareback sex you have to present negative test results for HIV, syphilis, and hepatitis B and C that are less than 30 days old. You could bring a test from your country or there are clinics in St. Petersburg that will do this set of tests for about 50 euros and Lena can tell you where to go or even provide someone to take you there. Before the shoots most girls will insert a Pharmatex tablet (available at any pharmacy, and the girls will expect you to provide it) for birth control and to protect against gonorrhea and Chlamydia. Apparently most of the girls don’t use the pill because it has to be taken everyday and they either don’t want to bother or recognize that they aren’t disciplined enough to remember it every day.
Even with these precautions bareback sex has risks. A person who tested negative for HIV, syphilis, or hepatitis 30 days ago can be positive if you are unlucky. You can also catch herpes or genital warts. One of the girls I wanted to see was unavailable because she had caught gonorrhea doing a shoot for Sineplex. But there is a huge industry built around bareback sex. I think if the risk were unacceptably high this would be known and we wouldn’t see the same stars performing over and over for years. Still, this is a choice for the individual. Compared to sex with an escort using a condom that can break and that doesn’t protect you from herpes or genital warts anyway I liked the odds of bareback sex with someone who had been carefully tested and who has many fewer sexual contacts than an escort. If you don’t want to take the risk you can of course do everything with a condom. It is up to you.
I arrived on a Sunday when most clinics are closed, so in order not to lose a day I went to a more expensive (80 euros) foreign clinic that was open. To get in I had to show my passport, so I had my real name on my test results. Lena had my cameraman accompany me to the clinic and he looked at my results just for the moment it took to see that everything was negative. He may also have glanced at my passport when I showed it at the entrance. Perhaps he could have memorized my real name if he wanted to and if his English was even good enough to do it so fast, but I thought my real identity probably hadn’t been revealed. Everyone I worked with seemed very honest anyway and I never thought that it would be a problem for me if they did know who I really was. But if you want to do bareback sex you have to get tested, and that means you might not be able to remain completely anonymous if that is important to you.
Mixphoto has many beautiful girls including top stars that are in widely distributed videos by major studios; mostly Swank, Sineplex, and Sinsational, but others too, including Anabolic and Evil Angel just to name a couple. If you go to their website (Mixphoto.com) you can sign up for a free account and log in to see photos of all of their models, women and men. If you are a fan of those three studios you will likely recognize several of Lena’s girls. Most of them are between 18 and 22 years old, though a few are in their mid twenties and one or two are around 30.
You will need to stay in an apartment since hotel security will probably stop a gorgeous 20 year old followed by a cameraman with equipment from going to your room. It is completely legal to film yourself having sex with paid models as long as the video is for your own personal use. Trying to sell the video is illegal, though that hasn’t stopped a couple of studios from operating in town openly for several years.
Wouldn’t it be great to be a porn star? You could have all kinds of hot crazy sex with gorgeous porn starlets; twosomes, threesomes, foursomes, orgies, gangbangs. You could have sex without condoms and it would be safe because everyone would be tested. You could cum on the girls’ faces and do cream pies. You wouldn’t have to worry about the girls having bad attitudes or not liking certain things. You could even watch yourself afterwards.
Well, think about it. To really be a porn start you would first have to answer an ad and go to a lineup with perhaps hundreds of other guys. You would strip, maybe be told to jack off if front of some old guys. Then you would go home and wait. Only if you were really lucky would you be asked to come back. That would be a drag.
But suppose you could skip the audition. What if you could go straight to being an actor and doing scenes? Would it be great then? Well, think about it. If you are just starting out you’re not going to do your first scene with Jenna Jaimeson. She does her scenes only with established models. First they are going to give you throwaway scenes boinking fat chicks to see how you do. That would be a drag.
But suppose you could go straight to the top. What if you could skip the fat chicks and go straight to doing the best starlets? What if you were an experienced actor on day one? Would it be great then? Well, think about it. Now you’re with one of your favorite starlets, but are you able to enjoy it? There would be a lot of pressure on you to perform. You would have a job to do. When they need you to be hard you had better get hard fast, and if you can’t do it your career will be over in about 15 minutes. When you are told to cum you had better be able to cum. If you can’t do it the whole fiasco will be on tape for the entire industry to see and laugh at as they remove your name from their list of desired talent. That would be a drag.
But suppose you didn’t have to worry about performing. What if you knew you could always get hard or cum or that if you didn’t no one would care? Would it be great then? Well, think about it. Now you are with your favorite girls and there are all kinds of things you want to do with them, but you don’t necessarily get to do those things. You have to do what the director tells you to do. You might want a blow job, but he might want you to lick her tits. You might want to fuck her, but maybe there is another guy in the scene and the director wants him to fuck her instead. Another guy in the scene? But you wanted to do a scene with two girls, not two guys. Too bad. You’re just an actor. You do what you are told. And when you finally do get to fuck her you can’t do it the way you want in the positions you want. The director picks the positions and you have to make sure the camera can see everything you do, so maybe you can’t get good penetration or good friction. That would be a drag.
But suppose you were the director. What if you decided who was in the scene and what everyone did? What if you could do whatever felt good and if the camera couldn’t see it you could do it anyway. Would it be great then? Well, think about it. The sex might be great, but once it was over the whole world would see it. Your parents would see it. Your boss would see it. Every girl you ever dated would know about it. Many people would ostracize you and many employers would refuse to hire you. That would be a drag.
But suppose you could do everything in private and when it was over you owned the film. What if no one had to know about it except you, and anyone you chose to show the film to or tell about it? What if you could skip the auditions, go straight to the top, got to do scenes with whoever you wanted, didn’t have to worry about performing, got to tell everyone what to do and when to do it, and didn’t have to let the whole world know what you were doing. Would it be great then?
If your answer is yes, then read on.
Awesome. Catalyst you are THE man. You should release at least 3 DVD and even create your own porn company :cool:
I'm sure I'm not the only one who is looking forward for the photos, even with your face blurred because we just care about the girls.
I knew Mixphoto last year but I was too avaricious to make a porno shoot or even softcore photos of famous models. At least I've met Marina before she became a pornstar and made free photos of her lovely body :D
About Lena, I'm the one who posted an link of an old photoset (in a boat on the Neva). Maybe the pictures did not do her justice because she was just 18 and it was like an amateur shoot. Other links with better pictures :
[url]http://www.pussyland.net/partners/302368/index19.html[/url]
[url]http://www.filthyamateurteens.com/petite_teen/indexaef.html[/url]
[url]http://www.pussyland.net/partners/302368/index20.html[/url]
[url]http://crazyholes.com/hor/alena16ne6.htm[/url]
[url]http://www.sexters.com/private-collection/gallery-48e/beauty-teens14.html[/url]
[url]http://www.givemegirls.com/at/zavisha/_gallery.htm[/url]
My respects to you, Lena. Hope I could see some other photos of you (even with clothes on) because you are so photogenic.
Excellent! What's Lena's email? I'm going there so I'd like to contact her and do a couple of movies. Who knows, maybe a producer will spot me and make ME a porn star! :)
Third and final installment. Not bad, eh?
Part 2 of 3.
Here are some pics of Anna 405 and Nastya 418.
Here's Dasha 319.
Here's Julia 231.
More of Katya
Here's the gangbang with Katya 376.
More Marina
Here's Marina 334.
Here's Natali 52.
Here's Olga 282.
These pictures were taking in the first apartment, which was dark, so the quality isn't so good.
Polina and Katya, Part 3.
Polina and Katya, part 2.
Here's a set that I like. Polina 319 and Katya 320.
Here's Sveta 333 and Ira 353.
Sveta and Tanya, part 2.
Here's Sveta 333 and Tanya 102
I got hardly any good photos of the first shoot with Vika. Here is one of them.
Vika gangbang, part 3.
Vika gangbang, part 2.
Here is the gangbang with Vika, part 1.
Here are the photos. Some shoots were in a lighter apartment or with better light or were taken later when I had more experience. With those shoots there are more pictures and they are better. I posted everything in reverse alphabetical order just because that's how I had them organized.
Dant,
I don't think I'm allowed to post email addresses here, but just go to Mixphoto.com and look up "contact us" or whatever is similar and you'll get Lena's email. It starts with exbi at ...
How did you meet Marina before she became a porn star? Next time I go to St. Petersburg I want to hang out in the places where you did. PM me on that if you want.
Oh, and those photos of Lena are hot! That's more like it. I wish I had gotten to St. Petersburg a few years earlier.
Vince,
Vadim was one of the models I used. Lena recommends him highly and he was probably the best performer. I never used a black model. I don't know if there is one.
Excellent catalyst ... I am sure everyone of us was reading dreaming to be there :) Can you tell about the oing prices for such performances and variations ????
THX man
After viewing these pics, "St. Petersburg" takes on a whole new meaning for me. 'Gotta get over there! Thanks for some great shots (literally and figuratively)!
[QUOTE=Catalyst]Here are the photos...[/QUOTE]
Very nice work, [b]Catalyst[/b]. Thanks !
Catalyst,
First of all, thanks for the excellent series of reports and photos!
One question, you mention getting STD/HIV testing done in St.Pete at a clinic. How long do they take to get results back? I get tested about twice a year in US or Europe, but usually have to wait about 10 days for all results to come back in. If the St.Pete clinic is significantly quicker, I'll just go there instead...
Catalyst,
Impressive set of pictures, you really did a great job!
[QUOTE=Doctor_Skank]Catalyst,
First of all, thanks for the excellent series of reports and photos!
One question, you mention getting STD/HIV testing done in St.Pete at a clinic. How long do they take to get results back? I get tested about twice a year in US or Europe, but usually have to wait about 10 days for all results to come back in. If the St.Pete clinic is significantly quicker, I'll just go there instead...[/QUOTE]We have different clinic. If you need quicker test ~ 80 euro and 1-2 hours(its is clinic work in weekend also).
Other clinic have price ~ 50$ and 1-2 days(but not in weekend)
[QUOTE=VinceVoyeur]Catalyst surely the best work in ISG but where are the videos?
(you use emule or share them)
Thanks a lot[/QUOTE]Best pics ever. if you have some videos, just let me know.
Sorry guys. I don't know how to shrink videos and post them, I don't know how to edit myself out of them, and even if I did I imagine it would be a lot of work. Besides ... maybe I will want to sell them someday.
I hope you are all going to behave in an exemplary way with Lena's girls. I had some doubts about posting all of this. I certainly don't want to come back to St. Petersburg and find out that Mixphoto doesn't do business with tourists anymore because there were some problems.
I also worry that when I come back the prices could be sky high because suddenly half of western adult male civilization realized that they like to vacation in St. Petersburg. But if we all behave well and are good clients I am hoping that the business will expand to meet the higher demand and the next time I go back there will be more girls to choose from. Please, everybody, act in a way that makes the girls say good things about us and makes more girls want to join this industry.
catalyst.
You rock dude, thanks for the pics...they are amazing..
its all i ever wanted :D
Catalyst,
I really envy your action photos in SP. Just an question, How much did you cost you for all those actions? if you don't mind let us know. I am sure a lot of members here would like to experience the same if they can afford it. So can you give us an estimate?
Thanks
YB,
Sorry Dude, you have to ask Lena. Just send her an email. She'll respond quickly.
[QUOTE=Catalyst]The prices are a sensitive topic since not all girls charge the same amounts for the same type of client, so please don’t ask, and if you find out please don’t post about it. You need to ask about individual girls and indicate how many girls you want (and how many men, if any) and whether you want anything unusual, like anal. CIM is always taken for granted. The cost is greater than for hiring an escort, but it is not exorbitant.[/QUOTE]
Also please note,
[QUOTE=Catalyst]Mixphoto is not an escort agency. The girls who work for them consider themselves to be actresses, not escorts, and are not interested in working as escorts. If you just want to have sex with a beautiful girl but do not want to film it you should look elsewhere.[/QUOTE]
In St P..I need to get me some. Any mongers got suggestions for hotel outcall girls?
Is [url]www.russiansexbombs.com[/url] genuine?
[QUOTE=Breast Is Best]In St P..I need to get me some. Any mongers got suggestions for hotel outcall girls?
Is [url]www.russiansexbombs.com[/url] genuine?[/QUOTE]
Do never go for a website where you have to pay to get telephone numbers of girls!
It is rare that I am at a loss for words, however, after viewing only 20 per cent of Catlayst's posts and photos I am stunned into silence.
Congratulations, Catalyst, on a truly groundbreaking series of posts.
I don't know how you can make the whole lot Reports of Distinction but they deserve their own section.
May I suggest to Jackson that he considers implementing an annual ISG ATTA award for Outstanding poster of the year by popular vote/poll? The winner to have a special logo applied to his Nick for the year.
My vote is for Catalyst among many other worthy entries.
Many have dreamt it, Catalyst has done it !!
Amazing.................
Excess is right - if there was ever a poster who deserved some sort of photo/report award, it's you! I've never been too interested in most of the ISG photo galleries, but after looking at every single one of your pictures and reading all your reports, I swear to god... I had to duck off to my bedroom and put out the fire!!! Things are still throbbing and tingling as I write.
When my partner gets home from work tonight, he's not gonna know what hit him! (Wonder if I could convince him to bring some mates around as well.... ;) ) Thank you for making my day!!
rubbernursey xxx
Catalyst!
My hat off for you!:) You have lived out the dream of many men! Woooow... Superb!!! Thanks for showing us all the photos and giving us som valuable insight in how porno shots are arranged! I always wanted do myself and I have one time with a pro. But ofcourse covered for the sex.
The best I've seen so far in this forum!!!
Cheers and keep up the good work!
/Felix
Hey,
How much is a session with a super girl from the first section?
Can you fuck your self and get someone to film it or is it only fuck without camera?
If someone is going ower for some sessions with those girls I would like to joyn and split the expenses. Seems like a lot of funn!
Send me a pm and we catch upp and prepare this.
Dick
[QUOTE=Elena Exbi]I work with different models. Some models known and popular in Europe and have very greater fees.Other less popular and ready to shoots on small price.
You offer to pay all equally?
Not problem. The Desire of the client - a law.
You may pay all equally.
But this will be an upper price since popular russian models will not shoots for
low price.
You not will see for low price:
[url]http://www.eurobabeindex.com/sbandoindex/alisa.html[/url]
[url]http://www.eurobabeindex.com/sbandoindex/anna.html[/url]
[url]http://www.eurobabeindex.com/sbandoindex/camilla_2.html[/url]
[url]http://www.eurobabeindex.com/sbandoindex/wendy.html[/url]
[url]http://www.eurobabeindex.com/sbandoindex/lara_2.html[/url]
[url]http://www.eurobabeindex.com/sbandoindex/naida.html[/url]
[url]http://www.eurobabeindex.com/sbandoindex/maya_2.html[/url]
But for low price you can shoots other (also very nice) girls:
[url]http://www.eurobabeindex.com/sbandoindex/xandy.html[/url]
[url]http://www.eurobabeindex.com/sbandoindex/natali.html[/url]
[url]http://www.eurobabeindex.com/sbandoindex/niki_2.html[/url]
[url]http://www.eurobabeindex.com/sbandoindex/niki_2.html[/url]
[url]http://www.eurobabeindex.com/sbandoindex/snella.html[/url]
If you do not see differences between they - see please their list with whom they worked .Maybe you will understand why models have different price.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Dick1]Hey,
How much is a session with a super girl from the first section?
Can you fuck your self and get someone to film it or is it only fuck without camera?
If someone is going ower for some sessions with those girls I would like to joyn and split the expenses. Seems like a lot of funn!
Send me a pm and we catch upp and prepare this.
Dick[/QUOTE]Its shoots. Only with camera. You can shoots with camera and have sex (POV) or you can have sex and shoot for you will be my cameramen.
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Ok after this tremendous post of MR Catalyst, we (normal ISG contributors) have to stay in silence for 1 year and pay respect to THE ONE.
I hope to shoot some film in my next visit in SPB
After the incredable work some of you fellows have been doing on this site recently- I am unworthy of my junior position in your midst!!
I have a question- does anyone recognize this girl? (see attachment). It is not that I think I am not a pulsing hunk of manhood- but my conversations with this girl seem to be too good. Is there a scam in the making? I found her on a dating site and have been talking about visiting her on my next trip to S Petersburg. She almost seems too excited to hear from me. Maybe I should go with the flow- but I would like to know what I am dealing with.
Any insight would be appreciated. PM me if you want or just post here. Just don't make me feel bad for being too gullible.
The Bear
If you know the girls name, age , location , there are ways of doing a trace to see if she is a scammer, there are some websites that will do a trace for you at a price or she may even be list on one of the black lists that are easily found on the internet. Not say she is ,but be aware of all possibilities.
mephil
[QUOTE=P Bear]After the incredable work some of you fellows have been doing on this site recently- I am unworthy of my junior position in your midst!!
I have a question- does anyone recognize this girl? (see attachment). It is not that I think I am not a pulsing hunk of manhood- but my conversations with this girl seem to be too good. Is there a scam in the making? I found her on a dating site and have been talking about visiting her on my next trip to S Petersburg. She almost seems too excited to hear from me. Maybe I should go with the flow- but I would like to know what I am dealing with.
Any insight would be appreciated. PM me if you want or just post here. Just don't make me feel bad for being too gullible.
The Bear[/QUOTE]
Here are some signals:
1) Does she ask for your picture? If not, then maybe you should ask why she is so interested in you but doesn't want to know what you look like;
2) Does she ask personal details about you, like your family and friends? If not, then maybe she is interested in something else other than yourself.
3) Last, but certainly not least, has she asked you for money? If she has, and if she has not shown any real interest in you, as stated in the first two questions, then you know what she has in mind, and it's not you.
Coding.
That said, a girl can legitimately ask for money, because they are dirt poor, but, in this business, you should consider her a scammer until she proves otherwise - ie, guilty till proven innocent.
She has asked for my picture and has been very interested in my work, family and friends. She has not asked for a dime or even mentioned money other than to tell me where she works and to mention that she does not make very much money. Total money conversation has been less than 2% of our notes back and forth. I guess I am feeling the need to be careful, because I usually do not do this well with women this fast. Who am I kidding- almost never.
Thanks for all the advice and I will keep my wits about me as I proceed. Thanks- The Bear
[QUOTE=Excess]May I suggest to Jackson that he considers implementing an annual ISG ATTA award for Outstanding poster of the year by popular vote/poll? The winner to have a special logo applied to his Nick for the year.
My vote is for Catalyst among many other worthy entries.[/QUOTE] I concur.
I always enjoy reading Catalyst's reports, but this report was over the top. He surpassed himself! My humble wish is that he will (eventually) edit and release a video of his adventure, if only a teaser.
Catalyst, your are absolutely the number one!
I read all your reports, and I remember you didnt want speak about prices
But I have a big curiosity: your budget was over or under 10.000 euro?
Thanks if you can answer
What were their rates? Did you distribute the film to cover the costs?
[QUOTE=Catalyst]After the last scene Lena came by to greet me and collect her commissions. She did not ask for any money until the very end and of course she did not charge me any commissions for the girls who cancelled. She was charming and beautiful. Someone posted pictures of her a couple of months ago and the pictures did not do her justice. Like most of her models, she looks better in person. I asked her a lot of questions about the business in Russia and she gave me good information, much of which I have repeated above.
I told her about the close calls we had with the cleaning lady. She looked puzzled and asked why I didn’t just call up the manager and tell her that I was doing porno shoots and could I please not be disturbed during these times. She said that she knew the manager, she had filmed in the building before, and that it was no problem doing porno there. Sigh! Only in Russia!
I asked her if it was ok to post a long description of what I did and she said yes. I asked her if it was ok to post some of my pictures and she smiled and said that they are my pictures, I can do whatever I want with them. I told her I didn’t think many people knew much about Mixphoto and that if they did more people would come to Saint Petersburg. I hope this is true, and if you’ve made it this far I hope you enjoyed reading about it.
(And lastly, I of course have some amazing pics, but I didn’t know about the size limitation until just now, so I will post them later after I have a chance to shrink them. Stay tuned[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Buds66]Catalyst, your are absolutely the number one!
I read all your reports, and I remember you didnt want speak about prices
But I have a big curiosity: your budget was over or under 10.000 euro?
Thanks if you can answer[/QUOTE]This less than?
[QUOTE=Buds66]Catalyst, your are absolutely the number one!
I read all your reports, and I remember you didnt want speak about prices
But I have a big curiosity: your budget was over or under 10.000 euro?
Thanks if you can answer[/QUOTE]
Buds,
Thanks for the praise.
On prices, why ask me cryptic questions? Why not just ask Lena? I'd be happy to post all the details about what everything cost, but Lena explained to me that this could cause problems for her and might not be in our interest either. By contrast, she was open with me about prices in one on one communications. I hope everyone isn't getting suspicious or discouraged because of the secrecy on prices. It's all straightforward and itemized when you talk to her one on one. I think she just doesn't want all her competitors and all her girls to see what every girl gets.
Remember to deduct from the cost all the money you will save on porn. It barely interests me anymore. When I see it now I think yeah, I did that, only it was better when I did it. The girls were better looking and there was more emotion. I don't understand why people hardly kiss in porn movies. We kissed almost nonstop, at least when the girls weren't kissing each other. And porn movies look so scripted; first position, ok second position, ... they look like they are finding their seats on an airplane. We changed positions all the time and it was fun and natural. My movies don't have high production standards, but other than that they kick the asses of most other porn movies. If you don't have too much to lose by doing so you possibly could release your movie and recoup your costs or more. (You might need to be careful the next time you go back to Russia if you get too famous.)
Keep an eye on what your cameraman is doing. Now that I've watched my movies I really see that one cameraman was far better than the other. The good one had a very good sense of what was interesting. He also kept moving, changed angles frequently, and stayed close to the action. The other one stayed at a distance and used the zoom, which made it harder for him to aim the camera and focus. There are some really frustrating moments when something great is happening and the camera goes out of focus, the cameraman's aim was off, or sometimes he just had bad judgment, like doing long shots of guys' faces when the girl was giving a multiple blowjob, or picking bad angles where you don't see anything. The good one, on the other hand, frequently surprised me, coming up with good creative shots. I noticed when we were filming that he was often standing on a chair or table or getting down on the floor to get the angles he wanted. If you are really into it you could even splurge for a professional cameraman with equipment, which Lena can provide, but that won't be a trivial addition to the total cost.
There was a more detailed discussion on this theme on the Russia General Info thread about two months ago. Might like to take a look.
Hi, guys,
I am new to this SP thread as I am planning a visit in next few months. Having gone through this informative forum I still have few questions, if you can extend some help
1. Agencies like mix photo and photomodeli arrange models for shoots but how to contact them as the websites are in russian.
2. What about the working girls in bars and hotels can any one recommend a link to a comprehensive report on SPt scene.
3. The apartments. Will they send the girls to my hotel if I call them. Keeping in mind I don't speak russian atall.
Thanks guys.
Hope someone will help out.
Your pictures and made me horny and want it even after I finished work already tonight. Need Chinese models?
[QUOTE=Dxb Rocks]Hi, guys,
I am new to this SP thread as I am planning a visit in next few months. Having gone through this informative forum I still have few questions, if you can extend some help
1. Agencies like mix photo and photomodeli arrange models for shoots but how to contact them as the websites are in russian.
2. What about the working girls in bars and hotels can any one recommend a link to a comprehensive report on SPt scene.
3. The apartments. Will they send the girls to my hotel if I call them. Keeping in mind I don't speak russian atall.
Thanks guys.
Hope someone will help out.[/QUOTE]1. Our site have english version.
2. I not recommend get acquainted with girls in club and bring her to home..Because alone my client have very big problem when meet with girls and bring her to home..
On morning - no money, no mobile phone, no wallet.
I can recomment not bring girls to home.
3. Don't know 8) we're not escort agancy.
4. Some agancys have manager who speak english.
Hi eveyone
Someone have good experience with this agency?
[url]http://bestrusmodel.com/[/url]
Thank you
Hi,
Someone know something about this: [url]http://bestrusmodel.com/[/url]
It seems nice, and for sure with english.
Please give some advice.
Thank you
After a period I can report my experience in SPB
Firstable about the [url]http: //bestrusmodel.com/[/url]
I call for the [url]http: //bestrusmodel.com/images/girls/sofia/eng/sofia_foto_eng.htm[/url]
Ok probably was my fault to believe that such a girl was real, anyway she present to my home totally different, orrible blonde fat girl. I don't trust anymore this web site.
The second experience is about [url]http://www.escortspb.ru/[/url]
I tried one month ago Baby [url]http://www.escortspb. Ru/rus/model/modelid-54[/url]
Take two hours in my flat, she speak a bit of english, the photo are 100% genuine and we spend a great session. 2 hours 3000 roubles
Last week from the same web site I tried Ksusha [url]http://www.escortspb.Ru/eng/model/modelid-63[/url]
3000 roubles 2 hours
Not such a great experience like baby. I was optimist for the photo but only the face correspond, she was too fat for me.
And finally I also tried with a great satisfaction this Spa in nevsky [url]http://www.afrodita-spa. Ru/eng/about.htm[/url]
1 hour erotic massage for 2 800 roubles. There are a book of 5 or 6 models that you can choose. (not model girls but normal)
That's it for the moment.
Can you fuck them at the spa?
[QUOTE=Luchino]After a period I can report my experience in SPB
Firstable about the [url]http: //bestrusmodel.com/[/url]
I call for the [url]http: //bestrusmodel.com/images/girls/sofia/eng/sofia_foto_eng.htm[/url]
Ok probably was my fault to believe that such a girl was real, anyway she present to my home totally different, orrible blonde fat girl. I don't trust anymore this web site.
The second experience is about [url]http://www.escortspb.ru/[/url]
I tried one month ago Baby [url]http://www.escortspb. Ru/rus/model/modelid-54[/url]
Take two hours in my flat, she speak a bit of english, the photo are 100% genuine and we spend a great session. 2 hours 3000 roubles
Last week from the same web site I tried Ksusha [url]http://www.escortspb.Ru/eng/model/modelid-63[/url]
3000 roubles 2 hours
Not such a great experience like baby. I was optimist for the photo but only the face correspond, she was too fat for me.
And finally I also tried with a great satisfaction this Spa in nevsky [url]http://www.afrodita-spa. Ru/eng/about.htm[/url]
1 hour erotic massage for 2 800 roubles. There are a book of 5 or 6 models that you can choose. (not model girls but normal)
That's it for the moment.[/QUOTE]
She tells me during the massage that we can't have sex. I don't know if is a rule of the Spa or it depends girls by girls.
[QUOTE=Guy #2]Can you fuck them at the spa?[/QUOTE]
I was there about 3 years ago and also specifically told by management (I flat out asked them) that sex is not offered. She was quite adamant about the fact that there were "other" kinds of salons for "that sort of thing".
I decided to go somewhere else instead of trying my luck there. Considering that sex in your own apartment with a hot chick from any of the numerous other salons that do offer sex also costs about the same 3000 rubles, I decided to go for something more carnal.
I have a lot of respect for you Dr. Skank. I am a professional by training. I think we are all professionals on this board. But you have a very good way of expressing yourself. You must either be a real medical doctor or a finance professional. Thanks for the info.
Going to a different subject, I told you guys that I would try Czech before Russia. I jus returned from Prague where I fucked 25 girls in 13 days. It was like heaven. If I died today, my life would be justified. I did catch some bacteria from a girl the first night there. Not STDs. It's a skin rash. The doctors gave me medication.
Let me cut to the chase. The women in Prague are better looking in person than what you see and expect from the Web. I read and analyze all your posts and I think that prices are about the same in Prague. I met Russians and Ukranians in Prague and did not like them. The Czechs are the most honest people I have ever met. They will tell you that they do not want to come to the US. I had girls tell me that you have to win my heart and it's not about anything else.
Now I am deciding whether to go to Ukraine or Russia. Yes, I still plan to fuck 25 girls a trip--bacteria or no bacteria. But I have to caclulate my age when my first born turns 18. I need to think about marrying these girls. Have you guys ever married these women? Can you reccomend a reputatble marriage agency? I thought about flirt.com but I wonder whether or not you are marrying a $300 ***** that IT already banged (that's a joke).
I am against the idea of dating agencies or websites. I prefer walking around and talking to people. But any information is good information.
I meant that I am against the idea of dating agencies or websites. I prefer walking around and talking to people. But any information is good information.
If there is a website or marriage agency that works, I'll consider it. Banging 25 girls is great. But I need to think long term to stay competitive. And some of you may tell me don't do it because the Russians cannot be trusted. If that is the case, I'll keep banging away. I just need the information to make an informed decision. Thanks.
PS: I do meet a lot of ISG members when I go on these trips. I am not that bad in person as you have seen.
Guy2: I replied in the general info section!
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=539189&postcount=533[/url]
I will be in St petersburg in a couple of days. During the last few years the interiors have been the best choice. Does anybody know about the bar situation, where to find working girls? Recently Magrib, tribunal, maratsall have been real disaters.
Explorer69:
I wish I knew, but admit I don't. I agree that the old haunts, Marstalls, Tribunal and Magrib... have been shitty for more than 2 years now. I do not know if there is a really good pickup bar in St.Pete anymore. There are working girls in nearly every club in town (my working girl ex told me) but I cannot always spot them outright, as they dress perhaps a bit provocative, but that isn't really saying much in Russia.
My best pros have all been from salons recently, Photomodeli and the like. Get them to come to you (a 500 ruble surcharge) and have a great time. Some kiss, some don't. Almost all insist on CBJ (unfortunately it's salon policy everywhere) but do a spirited and memorable fuck. And cheap too, about 100 Euro/$130 for 2 hours, usually 2-3 fucks.
Thanks. Kissing is really important me. Kissing is safe sex--I think. I am going to plan a trip to St. Petersburgh, having seen this now.
[QUOTE=Doctor_Skank]Explorer69:
I wish I knew, but admit I don't. I agree that the old haunts, Marstalls, Tribunal and Magrib... have been shitty for more than 2 years now. I do not know if there is a really good pickup bar in St.Pete anymore. There are working girls in nearly every club in town (my working girl ex told me) but I cannot always spot them outright, as they dress perhaps a bit provocative, but that isn't really saying much in Russia.
My best pros have all been from salons recently, Photomodeli and the like. Get them to come to you (a 500 ruble surcharge) and have a great time. Some kiss, some don't. Almost all insist on CBJ (unfortunately it's salon policy everywhere) but do a spirited and memorable fuck. And cheap too, about 100 Euro/$130 for 2 hours, usually 2-3 fucks.[/QUOTE]
Anybody going to be in St. Petersburg Feb 24-Mar 28 or Moscow Mar 1- Mar 3?
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Question: If you are kissing or french kissing these girls, can't you get AIDs if someone just blew their load in these girls' mouth? The Czechs always insist on a condom and but the Russians will let you cum in their mouth. Seriously, I'd like to know. Can't find any research online.
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G2:
There's no definitive info on the subject, but why not browse the ISG thread "Safe sex" or "the truth about AIDS"?
I myself am not afraid of BBBJ in terms of AIDS, but rather other STDs. Still, if BBBJ is on the menu I am taking it...
You may not have to worry anyway though, as I said before not every girl kisses and not every girl does BBBJ... in fact, more and more do not. I am quite sure that it is salon policy that the girl's don't do BBBJ. Sick girls are bad for business. I think they are mostly afraid of herpes and other STDs and not HIV.
Also, when talking about salon girls, they aren't "assembly line" fucking like at a German FKK... the salon girls may go even a couple of hours without a customer depending on the day.
BTW, BBBJ (Oral without) is STANDARD in Germany and those girls do fuck as many as 10-20 guys a day sometimes... haven't been hearing anything negative on that subject in Germany, so I think that although there is risk there, it isnt acute.
You can get STDs when using condoms too BTW... our game isn't 100% safe no matter how you look at it.
I would like to add some more info on this regard.
I live in Germany and I'm aware that some girls offer BBBJ, but it is not a standard and some of the ladies might refuse to do it, it just depends on the lady.
Regarding STD's by receiving oral without, read the following:
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=536562&postcount=1017[/url]
This didn't happen at a FKK, but still in Germany.
[QUOTE=Doctor_Skank]G2:
There's no definitive info on the subject, but why not browse the ISG thread "Safe sex" or "the truth about AIDS"?
I myself am not afraid of BBBJ in terms of AIDS, but rather other STDs. Still, if BBBJ is on the menu I am taking it...
You may not have to worry anyway though, as I said before not every girl kisses and not every girl does BBBJ... in fact, more and more do not. I am quite sure that it is salon policy that the girl's don't do BBBJ. Sick girls are bad for business. I think they are mostly afraid of herpes and other STDs and not HIV.
Also, when talking about salon girls, they aren't "assembly line" fucking like at a German FKK... the salon girls may go even a couple of hours without a customer depending on the day.
BTW, BBBJ (Oral without) is STANDARD in Germany and those girls do fuck as many as 10-20 guys a day sometimes... haven't been hearing anything negative on that subject in Germany, so I think that although there is risk there, it isnt acute.
You can get STDs when using condoms too BTW... our game isn't 100% safe no matter how you look at it.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Masacuata]I would like to add some more info on this regard.
I live in Germany and I'm aware that some girls offer BBBJ, but it is not a standard and some of the ladies might refuse to do it, it just depends on the lady.
Regarding STD's by receiving oral without, read the following:
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=536562&postcount=1017[/url]
This didn't happen at a FKK, but still in Germany.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the info. BBBJ isnt without risk, but neither is even kissing for that matter.
BBBJ IS standard at most FKKs in Germany. I've been to many and it was always BBBJ.
Street or red light district girls are different. There CBJ is the rule in Germany.
In Russia girls working in salons etc. usually only provide CBJ whereas escorts and girls from pickup bars are about 50/50 on BBBJ vs. CBJ.
A few years ago BBBJ was absolute standard everywhere in CIS, but that is history.
Thanks. I'll buy you a drink when I am in St. Petersburg perhaps March but more likely June. (I need to go back to Prague and spend time with the girls who made my day.)
I was in Frankort briefly and was shocked at how disgusting it was compared to Central Europe. I was surprised that in Western Europe, there were so many fat and unttractive people and minorities and smoke. Then I realized that it is anologous to the city versus the suburb in parts of the US. There is too much money floating around in Germany which raises the costs of living. That is why Prague can be cleaner because the costs is lower. Also, the culture is important too. As I traveled in Europe, certain Europeans remind me of Americans. For example, I am from a state which has a loarge German and trailer trash population. The Germans remind me of the white trash in the US. The Danish remind of the folks I met in Iowa and Minneapolis. The Czechs remind me of people I met in Chicago. I though finding a white girl in the US was hard. Try Germany which is very open to immigration. After a while, I started to understand the culture better.
I didn't exactly understand your point.
But, you could inform us about your experiences either in Prague or St. Petersburg whenever you have any new info.
[QUOTE=Guy #2]I was in Frankort briefly and was shocked at how disgusting it was compared to Central Europe. I was surprised that in Western Europe, there were so many fat and unttractive people and minorities and smoke. Then I realized that it is anologous to the city versus the suburb in parts of the US. There is too much money floating around in Germany which raises the costs of living. That is why Prague can be cleaner because the costs is lower. Also, the culture is important too. As I traveled in Europe, certain Europeans remind me of Americans. For example, I am from a state which has a loarge German and trailer trash population. The Germans remind me of the white trash in the US. The Danish remind of the folks I met in Iowa and Minneapolis. The Czechs remind me of people I met in Chicago. I though finding a white girl in the US was hard. Try Germany which is very open to immigration. After a while, I started to understand the culture better.[/QUOTE]
Nothing sorry for the posts. I'll reserve it for St. Petersburg.
[QUOTE=Doctor_Skank]Thanks for the info. BBBJ isnt without risk, but neither is even kissing for that matter.
BBBJ IS standard at most FKKs in Germany. I've been to many and it was always BBBJ. [/QUOTE]
I completely agree about BBBJ in Germany FKK clubs. Based on my limited experience most if not all do it there. There are even some girls in most FKK clubs who will do BBFS for extra money. I don't believe BBBJ is a significant health risk. If so STDs would be rampant in the FKK clubs throughout Germany but it does not appear to be a big problem.
I've recieved an almost incalculable amount of BBBJs and never caught anything. I think the guy who saidd he caught Clhamydia from a BBBJ at a FKK club left out some other important details.
I don't know if the cost of living in Germany is really that high. You can rent an Apartment in Dusseldorf cheaper than you can in Moscow.
[QUOTE=Guy #2]I was in Frankort briefly and was shocked at how disgusting it was compared to Central Europe. I was surprised that in Western Europe, there were so many fat and unttractive people and minorities and smoke. Then I realized that it is anologous to the city versus the suburb in parts of the US. There is too much money floating around in Germany which raises the costs of living. That is why Prague can be cleaner because the costs is lower. Also, the culture is important too. As I traveled in Europe, certain Europeans remind me of Americans. For example, I am from a state which has a loarge German and trailer trash population. The Germans remind me of the white trash in the US. The Danish remind of the folks I met in Iowa and Minneapolis. The Czechs remind me of people I met in Chicago. I though finding a white girl in the US was hard. Try Germany which is very open to immigration. After a while, I started to understand the culture better.[/QUOTE]
i am glad to learn, that you are someone better than all the human trash in western europe.
honestly i cannot remember any report with such an abusive, insulting and intolerant content.
by the way, many super models come from czechia and germany. if you haven´t found any nice girl in germany than probably because of your personality.
i hope that jackson will remove your racistic shit from here.
larsca
I recently took a trip to France and Germany hoping to get lucky with french and german girls.I didnt know i was arriving in a 2 third world countries!
Everyone seems to be from Africa, Asia or the Middle EAst! Where are the native people of those countries?
I presume they are and am looking into making a booking in June. Any words of advice or cautions. Shall we start a hotel thread here?
[QUOTE=Gatsby67]I presume they are and am looking into making a booking in June. Any words of advice or cautions. Shall we start a hotel thread here?[/QUOTE]I've stayed at the Grand Europe on many ocasions - definitely GF - and has a few girls working from the main ground floor bar each night. met some nice girls there.
The other hotels that I have stayed at in St.P (PetroPalace only name I can remember) did not seem to be a problem. They did not seem to have WGs working inside the hotel. Equally I was discreet bringing girls in.
I have one personal favourite I always meet when I am in St.P - she always wants to be met outside the hotel (even grand Europe) and taken inside, so clearly there is a need to be discreet.
Great place and great girls in my experience!
WM
[quote=larsca04]i am glad to learn, that you are someone better than all the human trash in western europe.
honestly i cannot remember any report with such an abusive, insulting and intolerant content.
by the way, many super models come from czechia and germany. if you haven´t found any nice girl in germany than probably because of your personality.
i hope that jackson will remove your racistic shit from here.
larsca[/quote]yes, i am serious. i came back to the states and i applied what i learned overseas. that's how i was able to walk into a bar, dance with one girl, grope another, kissed a third, asked a fourth to marry me, and continued groping another. but i have had hits and misses since then. i decided to stay in--bad mistake. it's 3: 00 in the am and i am still up. i should have gone out. yeah, these girls are white and under 26 and they are not hookers. i use the same socieconomic analysis by suburbs and city neighborhoods and ethnicities. of course, we can all pretend that race is not an issue and go back to buying hookers. unfortunately, not all of us are investment bankers living in london who can fly into prague for a weekend. read my comments more carefully. i liked the czechs. also, i live on 20% of what i make. the rest goes into investments. as i hit my late 30s, there is more pressure to conform. i am not interested in hiding at night or online and chasing young girls or using money to entice women to sleep with me. i like being direct and using my personality and intelligence to walk into a college bar and meet a college coed. yes, you do have to figure what makes a person tick. otherwise, you have to pay for it. i am not interested in paying for it. flying into europe and fucking 25 girls in 13 days is a back up plan. let me make one thing clear if you have not figured it out. once you decide to pay for sex, you have crossed the moral lines. don't begin to give me moral rules on what is racially appropriate or inapporiate language. you are paying for sex. don't tell me that there is a speck of dust in my eye when you have a needle in your own. yeah, i should have gone out tonight. that is how well things are going for me. i can find women in the us even ona sunday night. but instead i chose to sit in and do this stupid online internet surfing which is a waste of time. i think that meeting women is all about being direct and telling them what you want and talking to them and not caring about what people think. when you start worrying about what people think, that's when you marry a fat cow your own age and buy a house you can't afford and pay for sex in the dark. oh, yeah, and worry about what is politically correct. truth is if you walk into a frankfort airport, it is smelly and disgusting with fat white germans and a lot of indians and and arabs. if you walk into a czech airport, you see nothing but thin white people along with rep001terings of the hot white blondes who can't get a job anywhere else. does it take a monkey to figure that out? and you want to tell me that it's not about money with the russians and the ukranians? that's almost like saying conforming and being polite are not japanese traits? or being rude and cheap are not chinese traits? use your commen sense and maybe you can save some money.
[QUOTE=Gatsby67]I presume they are and am looking into making a booking in June. Any words of advice or cautions. Shall we start a hotel thread here?[/QUOTE]I have stayed in the Angleterre on St Isaac Square numerous times and that is also GF. These days I stay at the Renaiissance (just off St Isaac) and it is also GF - plus the elevators are before you get to reception so no walk of shame for the more sensitive among us.
One word of caution - avoid the Hotel St Petersburg. Its old, worn out Soviet style and is not GF. Room rates are good and some have great views but the place really sucks.
Ricardo Cabron
Hotel Astoria at St Isac square (wall to wall with Angleterre, same owners?) is GF. The Radisson SAS on Nevsky Pr is not really GF, you have to pay USD 50 to security. I have not stayed there myself, but a friend did, I think it was 50. Sometimes there are also girls in the lobby bar at the Radisson, very variable quality, sometimes not good, but the occasional stunner. They are rather expensive USD 2-400 for a couple of hours, because they pay commission to security, but this may vary from one girl to the other. Dont ask me why:))
This week I try the salon on Nievsky, I enter in the building, wait 5 minutes in the living room waiting the girls. Comes 3 girls, 2 orrible (my impression) and one OK. She is from Ukraina, 23 years old.
[url]http://www.photomodeli.ru/html_girl_info.php?g_id=513[/url]
Take 1 h session, quite satisfied. Perfect body, nice ass 8 , good tits 7, face 6--.
2.500 roubles
Good sex but not the best, next time I will change girl.
[QUOTE=Explorer69]The Radisson SAS on Nevsky Pr is not really GF, you have to pay USD 50 to security. I have not stayed there myself, but a friend did, I think it was 50. Sometimes there are also girls in the lobby bar at the Radisson, very variable quality, sometimes not good, but the occasional stunner. They are rather expensive USD 2-400 for a couple of hours, because they pay commission to security, but this may vary from one girl to the other. Dont ask me why:))[/QUOTE]I have stayed at the Radisson SAS sevral times, but I've never found girs in the lobby bar. Therefore, when I hooked a girl and came back to the Radisson, sometime I had to pay 1000 Rub to security, sometime didn't. It depends on security, I think.
I heard that security can't ask money when the girl with her passport registered at recieption. Neptun Hotel was OK, but at the Radisson, I have never tried. Have anyone registered girl with you?
At Nevsky Palace Hotel, there are 3-4 girls at the bar. I've never tried her, but I heard USD 2-400 for one session.
Hi everyone,
I find this girl: [url]http://www.rusdosug.com/indi4158.htm[/url]
Someone try her?
She looks great.
And she speak english that for me is essential to schedule.
Also if someone know some individual escort (not salon, not escort agencies) that speak english please let me know.
Wait for some advice!
Thanks
[quote=guy #2]yes, i am serious. i came back to the states and i applied what i learned overseas. that's how i was able to walk into a bar, dance with one girl, grope another, kissed a third, asked a fourth to marry me, and continued groping another. but i have had hits and misses since then. i decided to stay in--bad mistake. it's 3: 00 in the am and i am still up. i should have gone out. yeah, these girls are white and under 26 and they are not hookers. i use the same socieconomic analysis by suburbs and city neighborhoods and ethnicities. of course, we can all pretend that race is not an issue and go back to buying hookers. unfortunately, not all of us are investment bankers living in london who can fly into prague for a weekend. read my comments more carefully. i liked the czechs. also, i live on 20% of what i make. the rest goes into investments. as i hit my late 30s, there is more pressure to conform. i am not interested in hiding at night or online and chasing young girls or using money to entice women to sleep with me. i like being direct and using my personality and intelligence to walk into a college bar and meet a college coed. yes, you do have to figure what makes a person tick. otherwise, you have to pay for it. i am not interested in paying for it. flying into europe and fucking 25 girls in 13 days is a back up plan. let me make one thing clear if you have not figured it out. once you decide to pay for sex, you have crossed the moral lines. don't begin to give me moral rules on what is racially appropriate or inapporiate language. you are paying for sex. don't tell me that there is a speck of dust in my eye when you have a needle in your own. yeah, i should have gone out tonight. that is how well things are going for me. i can find women in the us even ona sunday night. but instead i chose to sit in and do this stupid online internet surfing which is a waste of time. i think that meeting women is all about being direct and telling them what you want and talking to them and not caring about what people think. when you start worrying about what people think, that's when you marry a fat cow your own age and buy a house you can't afford and pay for sex in the dark. oh, yeah, and worry about what is politically correct. truth is if you walk into a frankfort airport, it is smelly and disgusting with fat white germans and a lot of indians and and arabs. if you walk into a czech airport, you see nothing but thin white people along with rep001terings of the hot white blondes who can't get a job anywhere else. does it take a monkey to figure that out? and you want to tell me that it's not about money with the russians and the ukranians? that's almost like saying conforming and being polite are not japanese traits? or being rude and cheap are not chinese traits? use your commen sense and maybe you can save some money.[/quote]or like saying how americans are simplistic, brash, arrogant and clueless. yes, you should go out more and stop saying such rambling nonsense.
[QUOTE=Luchino]Hi everyone,
I find this girl: [url]http://www.rusdosug.com/indi4158.htm[/url]
Someone try her?
She looks great.
And she speak english that for me is essential to schedule.
Also if someone know some individual escort (not salon, not escort agencies) that speak english please let me know.
Wait for some advice!
Thanks[/QUOTE]
If you want to meet her, better go to Prague or Brno. Don't bring condoms but a camera cause she's a model.
This is Mellie (not the wife of long time missed ISG member Roger Mellie) :
[url]http://www.eurobabeindex.com/sbandoindex/mellie.html[/url]
[QUOTE=VinceVoyeur]Kacey sugar is a russian girl who works in an expensive hotel of St Petersburg, she speaks good italian and english.
Kate real name is Katya.
She has a boyfriend but a lot of friends who will be available as escort in her hotel.
Photos was taken in 2005 for my first visit of St Pete.[/QUOTE]
I have to correct her reputation. We have never met her in St Petersburg, she worked in a mid-class hotel, and she doesn't run an escort agency. She stopped chatting with Vince as soon as he gave her the url of his sex-oriented website.
Sirs,
This could be a silly enquiry: but if you were aware of any for this. In the old time during cold war, it used to be that natural resoueces-related personnel are cautioned from state dpt as well as certain British contingencies that we should be aware that the surveillance of Russian intelligence is strict and 24 hours anywhare, particularly petrolium related-personnel. (although I am a useless salaried man, nothing important, nothing worth being survaillanced)
But is it still a possibility in Russia that certain contingencies are listing the incomming foreigner with multi-entry Visa, and trail its sexual traces, or is it already the things of past?
Considering the exhaustive personnel of Interiour ministry, (and I am also too old remembering cold war) I still hesitate going one step into Russian WG. Would anybody possibly advise how safe the WGs in SPb would be?
Moscow also has a lot of their resources, and I am still convinced that the strictness of the surveillance is much tighter against the foreigner with multi-visa or any other which still has liminited number, and possibly easy to categorize for goverment-related workers?
Anybody having suffered any harrasment back home?
Please advise.
Anyone know if Cialis is available in SP?
[QUOTE=Catalyst]Anyone know if Cialis is available in SP?[/QUOTE]
Everywhere in any pharmacy.
[QUOTE=George Assaii]Sirs,
This could be a silly enquiry: but if you were aware of any for this. In the old time during cold war, it used to be that natural resoueces-related personnel are cautioned from state dpt as well as certain British contingencies that we should be aware that the surveillance of Russian intelligence is strict and 24 hours anywhare, particularly petrolium related-personnel. (although I am a useless salaried man, nothing important, nothing worth being survaillanced)
But is it still a possibility in Russia that certain contingencies are listing the incomming foreigner with multi-entry Visa, and trail its sexual traces, or is it already the things of past?
Considering the exhaustive personnel of Interiour ministry, (and I am also too old remembering cold war) I still hesitate going one step into Russian WG. Would anybody possibly advise how safe the WGs in SPb would be?
Moscow also has a lot of their resources, and I am still convinced that the strictness of the surveillance is much tighter against the foreigner with multi-visa or any other which still has liminited number, and possibly easy to categorize for goverment-related workers?
Anybody having suffered any harrasment back home?
Please advise.[/QUOTE]
Dear Friend,
first of all the SVR is the foreign espionage system like CIA or MI6; FSB is the internal one like MI5 and FBI…
In my opinion they do not care at all if you fuck a teen a nun, or a grandmother… they are in to real business, real money!
Still a lot of people think that Russian money comes from pros, drug, and some strange illegal vodka smuggling or casinos, taking money from foreign residents: just pocket pennies… I think they just live in the clouds of alcohol…
Russian money (and there the FSB is really operative) comes from gas, oil, coal, electricity, iron ore, coal, nickel, platinum, palladium, diamonds, and, of course weapons (last small contract 27 missiles to Iran, to protect the Russian built atomic plants, for 960 million dollars, and it’s just pocket money)… The dependence of Western Europe from Russian energy is around 30%. In Eastern Europe and Finland it’s between 60 and 100%.
So far you do not do anything wrong in all these business the FSB will not take care if you get every evening in a Jacuzzi with a couple of teens, it’s not their business. And that’s all.
I know I have been checked several times, even personally for a bribe questioning (police asked me bribes, but I was the wrong person to do it with…), I have been in several military areas, nobody is questioning who you are fucking or what you are drinking… Of course there is still a “dislike” against homosexuals, but we are not here for that…
I think It’s all….
IT
[QUOTE=Catalyst]Here are some pics of Anna 405 and Nastya 418.[/QUOTE]Is Nastya the dark one? She´s SO BEAUTIFUL! I´m in love with her! :) How much did you pay? Wow
[QUOTE=Maxisol]Is Nastya the dark one? She´s SO BEAUTIFUL! I´m in love with her! :) How much did you pay? Wow[/QUOTE]
Max - You have excellent taste. The dark one is Anna. She is a successful porn star who has appeared in films by several major studios including Swank, Anabolic, Sineplex, Devil, Evil Angel, and Hustler.
Unfortunately I regret to report that she has retired.
Here is more info on her:
[url]http://www.eurobabeindex.com/sbandoindex/anna.html[/url]
[url]http://www.whichpornstar.co.uk/priscilla.htm[/url]
[QUOTE=Catalyst]Max - You have excellent taste. The dark one is Anna. She is a successful porn star who has appeared in films by several major studios including Swank, Anabolic, Sineplex, Devil, Evil Angel, and Hustler.
Unfortunately I regret to report that she has retired.
Here is more info on her:
[url]http://www.eurobabeindex.com/sbandoindex/anna.html[/url]
[url]http://www.whichpornstar.co.uk/priscilla.htm[/url][/QUOTE]Oh my Lord, she's the most beautiful pornstar ever. Never heard of her. Russian women are the best. Thanks a lot for the links my friend!
So how does one respond to a polite (or impolite) request for bribe? I've always wondered how best be the wrong guy to ask.
[QUOTE=It Travel]Dear Friend,
first of all the SVR is the foreign espionage system like CIA or MI6; FSB is the internal one like MI5 and FBI…
In my opinion they do not care at all if you fuck a teen a nun, or a grandmother… they are in to real business, real money!
Still a lot of people think that Russian money comes from pros, drug, and some strange illegal vodka smuggling or casinos, taking money from foreign residents: just pocket pennies… I think they just live in the clouds of alcohol…
Russian money (and there the FSB is really operative) comes from gas, oil, coal, electricity, iron ore, coal, nickel, platinum, palladium, diamonds, and, of course weapons (last small contract 27 missiles to Iran, to protect the Russian built atomic plants, for 960 million dollars, and it’s just pocket money)… The dependence of Western Europe from Russian energy is around 30%. In Eastern Europe and Finland it’s between 60 and 100%.
So far you do not do anything wrong in all these business the FSB will not take care if you get every evening in a Jacuzzi with a couple of teens, it’s not their business. And that’s all.
I know I have been checked several times, even personally for a bribe questioning (police asked me bribes, but I was the wrong person to do it with…), I have been in several military areas, nobody is questioning who you are fucking or what you are drinking… Of course there is still a “dislike” against homosexuals, but we are not here for that…
I think It’s all.
IT[/QUOTE]
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Fellow Mongers,
I will be returning to SPG after much too long of a hiatus. Can I please get an update on the status of the old haunts?
Tribunal- Overpriced with a small but ever changing line of pros
Mistral- Always fun but with the same pros since "God was in short pants"
Cafe Magrib- Upper class dance club with pricey pros that need to be weeded out of the "regular" girls
Golden Dolls and Maximus- Strip clubs with CONSTANT harassment for 100rbl tips for no good reason
Colorado Otets (Papa Colorado)- A fair strip club/ burlesque show in the middle of Valilevsky island with overnight dance/burlesque shows in the front and the same beautiful dancers stripping in the back.
Also, about the more practical matters:
Do average Russian women still refuse to accept a drink bought for them if they have no interest in you? This brutal honesty from Russian women is unique in over 20 countries I have visited, including Poland and Ukraine.
Do Russian women still find people of asian, latin and african background "exotic" and openly hit on them?
Does the Russian warmth of spirit (Dusha), much aided by vodka, still make quick friends out of stone faced Russian men and women?
Finally, are the bridges still the scourge of the midnight monger? Or have they finally opened a subway or shuttle service?
Thank you!
Red
[QUOTE=Across69]Fellow Mongers,
I will be returning to SPG after much too long of a hiatus. Can I please get an update on the status of the old haunts?
Tribunal- Overpriced with a small but ever changing line of pros
Mistral- Always fun but with the same pros since "God was in short pants"
Cafe Magrib- Upper class dance club with pricey pros that need to be weeded out of the "regular" girls
Golden Dolls and Maximus- Strip clubs with CONSTANT harassment for 100rbl tips for no good reason
Colorado Otets (Papa Colorado)- A fair strip club/ burlesque show in the middle of Valilevsky island with overnight dance/burlesque shows in the front and the same beautiful dancers stripping in the back.
Also, about the more practical matters:
Do average Russian women still refuse to accept a drink bought for them if they have no interest in you? This brutal honesty from Russian women is unique in over 20 countries I have visited, including Poland and Ukraine.
Do Russian women still find people of asian, latin and african background "exotic" and openly hit on them?
Does the Russian warmth of spirit (Dusha), much aided by vodka, still make quick friends out of stone faced Russian men and women?
Finally, are the bridges still the scourge of the midnight monger? Or have they finally opened a subway or shuttle service?
Thank you!
Red[/QUOTE]
Across69:
Russia, including St.Pete, has changed a lot in the last few years, but one thing has stayed the same... St.Pete still does not have a decent pickup bar. Tribunal, Marstalls and Magrib all suck in one way or another.
For pro sex best sources are the apartments/salons... take the girls home for 2 hours for about $100-120.
To your questions:
Do average Russian women still refuse to accept drinks if not interested? Not sure, no woman has ever refused to accept a drink from me that I recall... :)
Do Russian women still find people of asian, latin and african background "exotic" and openly hit on them? I am sure some do, but I have never really seen this. I'm white, so maybe I just wasn't watching. :) All I can say is that I have seen some foreigners of darker skin do quite well, but seen plenty more not doing well at all. I suppose it is classic YMMV. Latin guys probably do the best of the three you mentioned and Africans definitely have their "fans" as well. Really don't know on Asians... don't see them much.
Point is, really any person with decent game and some success in his home country with women should find nice Russian girls to enjoy and sleep with regardless of skin color. More important than skin color are other factors. It may not happen on opening night, but usually does by date 2 or 3 at the latest. Most often though, if she meets you a second time she'll sleep with you.
Here is something posted by fellow ISG afficiando Dirk Dingy written about the Moldovan scene, but I think it applies to Russia as well:
[QUOTE=DirkDingy]"Non-white dudes: as I will address later, moldova is an impoverished economic train wreck and many of the women here would go with satan himself if they thought he would take care of them. end of story. Moldovan men are boring, abusive, brutish, drunks--and 90% of them are dead broke to boot so Muhamad may not be so bad of an alternative after all…the manmade beach in UAE is pretty damn nice.
nevertheless, EEs are a relatively ignorant, unsophisticated, unworldly, and often nationalistic bunch (especially the slavs) and most are inherently racist—or atleast comically stereotypical. Of course the local men don’t like to see foreigners—especially ones of color—shagging their women. Da, the women will rant and rave to us about how they would never be with an arab or a turk and then the next day I see the same broad sitting with the caliphyte…you can draw your own conclusion homie.
race, class (or more likely legal or illegal money), and nationality all play a part in one’s appeal to a woman. undeniably, in no particular order, the whiter, richer, younger, handsomer, and more Western one is the higher one’s place will be in the EE woman’s hierarchy. to what degree each factor matters to each woman I honestly can’t say. however, as one man on the aw board so astutely pointed out: women are much deeper than men are when seeking a mate. So, if your “game” is solid, I think that one can overcome one, or perhaps even a few, of the aforementioned “handicaps.”… I can’t recall if it was Jefferson or Hamilton that said that if an American posses three out of five of the following qualities he or she can be successful: wealth, status of birth, intelligence, diligence, and luck.
Verdict: you’ll be ok to shag as long as your bankroll is sufficient. It’s not Russia or Kiev where a person of color may get their ass kicked for being with a local woman. Shit, even Aryan Westerners can get into trouble in Russia.
moldovans, belarusians, and romanians are a pretty passive and browbeaten people.
I can’t emphasize this enough though—although I certainly don’t follow my own advice outside of work—these people really judge you by your threads. We Americans dress like shit, and if the locals see that you are poorly dressed they think that you can’t afford better clothes and are poor. ***The only thing that saves me is the fact I ALWAYS have the most expensive mobile phone and watch in the room.***"[/QUOTE]
Does the Russian warmth of spirit (Dusha), much aided by vodka, still make quick friends out of stone faced Russian men and women? This hasn't changed and thankfully probably never will.
Finally, are the bridges still the scourge of the midnight monger? Or have they finally opened a subway or shuttle service? Bridges are still a concern to keep in mind...
Overall, I think you should just read the last 2 dozen or so posts on the St.Pete board and check out the reports of distinction thread. Most of the info still applies.
Additionally, Russia is becoming more and more "Euro-ized" or "westernized". This doesn't mean that the Russian soul and character is fundamentally changing, but they are more and more exposed to the outside world and for better or worse, adapting to modern times.
Thought I would report some danger, since we all learn from this forum.
I was recently in SP, and went to Marstalls on a Friday evening since I had read about it in reviews and it was close to my hotel.
I got in around 11 and really liked the place. Good music, women dancing on the dancefloor and on the bar (strippers), and a good mix of working girls and others. Most of the working girls were ugly, but it was my first night out.
I left the place at 4 in the morning, and as I left I was approached by the police to show my documents. I had copies and that seemed to be OK. They left in their van and a few minutes later I am approached by more police and asked again. I told them I just did this but provided documents. Next thing I knew they had my wallet and my cash. I complained they took my cash, and then they had me in handcuffs and on the ground. Perhaps 30 minutes later with another scammer who said he was my legal advisor, I was let go. But my cash was gone. Luckily they did not take my watch or credit cards, but they did rip my leather jacket. My advisor called me a cab, really nice of him.
I travel around the world, and am typically careful, and have never encountered this.
For the remainder of my trip, I will stay in my hotel, and wait until I go back to Germany where people are civilized. Guess they will get my money.
I have read now that this is a problem in Russia (unfortunately it is a bit late). While I could accept a gang hit, it is hard to believe from police. As said in another forum, I guess they don't know about the internet.
Be safe out there, and not just from the women.
Bornma,
It is unfortunate what happend to you - especially the part about being handcuffed.
Unfortunately, ripoffs of foreigners by police in St. Petersburg, and other major EE towns, is a regular event. Typically, they just claim there is something or other wrong with your documents, and hit you up for a bribe - $20 or so, nothing major, nothing violent. Much less often, force becomes a factor - I've lived in and out of EE for many months at a time, and never had force become an issue (though paid many a $20 'penalty').
Marstall, in particular, is know by police to be frequented by foreigners. There is almost always a cop located at the door, on busy nights - I figure he works with his buddies to hit up the foreigners (though I never had a problem at/near Marstall, I've heard many stories about it).
Just the same - don't let it get you too down. Overall, it really is as safe, or safer, in EE as in WE/US. The biggest danger is, in fact, the police! You have to avoid them like the plague! I literally cross the street if I see them on the sidewalk ahead of me...
A while back I posted on the BBK thread that I had been mugged in day-light
by a policeman. It happened as I was walking from Grace Hotel toward Sukhumvit Rd. There is a police booth at this intersection. The policeman waves at me to get closer, when I got to the door this SOB pulls me in and closes the door and starts going through my pockets mumbling something in Thai.This bastard could not get my money that I kept under my shirt in a pouch. Miraculously, another policeman got in the booth so I got out fast!
[QUOTE=Bornma]Thought I would report some danger, since we all learn from this forum.
I was recently in SP, and went to Marstalls on a Friday evening since I had read about it in reviews and it was close to my hotel.
I got in around 11 and really liked the place. Good music, women dancing on the dancefloor and on the bar (strippers), and a good mix of working girls and others. Most of the working girls were ugly, but it was my first night out.
I left the place at 4 in the morning, and as I left I was approached by the police to show my documents. I had copies and that seemed to be OK. They left in their van and a few minutes later I am approached by more police and asked again. I told them I just did this but provided documents. Next thing I knew they had my wallet and my cash. I complained they took my cash, and then they had me in handcuffs and on the ground. Perhaps 30 minutes later with another scammer who said he was my legal advisor, I was let go. But my cash was gone. Luckily they did not take my watch or credit cards, but they did rip my leather jacket. My advisor called me a cab, really nice of him.
I travel around the world, and am typically careful, and have never encountered this.
For the remainder of my trip, I will stay in my hotel, and wait until I go back to Germany where people are civilized. Guess they will get my money.
I have read now that this is a problem in Russia (unfortunately it is a bit late). While I could accept a gang hit, it is hard to believe from police. As said in another forum, I guess they don't know about the internet.
Be safe out there, and not just from the women.[/QUOTE]
A couple of things about the militsia... 1st the ones outside of Marstalls are sometimes not even from SPB. Generally if they have a vehicle they are legit, but if they are walking up to you often they come into town from the outlying derevnyas to hit up tourists for cash. 2nd carry only the amount of cash that you want to lose. The rest stick in your shoe / underwear etc. I normally carry 500 Roubles in my passport coming out of the bar and for $15 the cops go away. Watch your mobile phone as well. If you are really concerned stop by the consulate and get a business card from the consular section. Lastly stay in well lit areas where there are people around and if you are truly concerned for your safety say "Ya Americanets, Ya naziviou consulstva" (I am American I am calling the consulate) take your consular business card and start dialing. I have had militisioneers just walk away to easier prey. Have fun, stay safe, and friends don't let friends go to Marstalls.
I was told a similar thing by a Russian girl (who happened to be a criminal defense attorney) - if stopped by the police, and harrased, just whip out your cell phone, and tell them you're calling the consulate. She suggested you don't really need to call them - just pretend. The police will get scared, and walk.
As for Marstalls - I've been there several times, never had a problem - but I speak Russian, and don't always stick out as a tourist.
Bornma et al,
Unfortunately this has been going on for years. My experience of this was back in 2004. I haven't been to Marstall since and I now major on the salons - cheap, safe and plenty of them.
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=186021&postcount=214[/url]
RC
I guess I learned a lesson. I have even ordered a "secret wallet" for future travels to other places I will visit.
As for Russia. It is too bad. I found the women beautiful, but was really put off by the experience in SP, and as a result even stayed in during my trip to Moscow. I saw a report regarding the Boarhouse (I was planning a visit) and the police situation there, and decided it just wasn't worth it a second time. So I stayed in. Germany was better. FKK's are truly relaxing and must more cost effective. Plus you can take a licensed cab. Which really is you best protection in most countries.
[QUOTE=Round]Or like saying how Americans are simplistic, brash, arrogant and clueless. Yes, you should go out more and stop saying such rambling nonsense.[/QUOTE]You are a site looking for hookers with mostly other Americans and Western Europeans. Dude, take a look at yourself. I am just trying to find a way to save money and keep living this lifestyle. If I can reduce my costs by finding a freebie, all the more better. When you are stuck in the States, you can go out as many times as you want. But even a cheap drink on a cheap night out of the town at $32 is more than the cost of a hot girl in Argentina. So you are back at trying to land a freebie because anything you spend more than 30 is a loss.
Hi all,
Myself and a buddy are going to SPB on May 3rd for a week, any tips on what area of the city to stay in thats close to a few clubs, etc. Names of midrange hotel would be great too. Thanks in advance and keep up the good reporting all.
Hello fellow mongers,
Last summer I had a fun time in Kharkov, and if you can deal with total boredom that is being in the industrial east of Ukraine, the girls are great there. Very nice and helpful too. I'm thinking about "testing the waters" in Sankt Petersburg this summer and wanted to know your thoughts. I'm all about the freebie scene. Sure, there are usually more strings involved in that scene, but it can be more rewarding in the end. Those of you who score freebies with regularity can probably vouch for that. I don't necessarily have to limit myself to SPB, I can travel elsewhere, so. Leaving out visa hassles, boredom factor of the given city, and political worries, my question is: Which is the best country to score freebies in, pound-for-pound? Is it just luck of the draw, or do you think there is a difference in dyev's attitudes from different regions/countries of the FSU? Of course, there is going to be more to do in SPB than Kharkov, but I'm really only there for one reason. Aren't we all? Just thought I'd pose this question to the forum. Thanks for any feedback.
[QUOTE=Lovedatslavicass]Thanks for any feedback.[/QUOTE]
Hey, what about you giving the forum some feedback on Kharkov first?
[QUOTE=Lovedatslavicass]Hello fellow mongers,
Last summer I had a fun time in Kharkov, and if you can deal with total boredom that is being in the industrial east of Ukraine, the girls are great there. Very nice and helpful too. I'm thinking about "testing the waters" in Sankt Petersburg this summer and wanted to know your thoughts. I'm all about the freebie scene. Sure, there are usually more strings involved in that scene, but it can be more rewarding in the end. Those of you who score freebies with regularity can probably vouch for that. I don't necessarily have to limit myself to SPB, I can travel elsewhere, so. Leaving out visa hassles, boredom factor of the given city, and political worries, my question is: Which is the best country to score freebies in, pound-for-pound? Is it just luck of the draw, or do you think there is a difference in dyev's attitudes from different regions/countries of the FSU? Of course, there is going to be more to do in SPB than Kharkov, but I'm really only there for one reason. Aren't we all? Just thought I'd pose this question to the forum. Thanks for any feedback.[/QUOTE]
really don't understand your way of thinking...
you go to some places and you care only about the girls... strange but OK.
then you say you are only into freebies, why not, but I guess sometimes you don't score, so what are you doing then? Just wait the next day to try again, in a place you don't have any interest in?
Tanya and Kristina - Part 4
Tanya and Kristina - Part 3
Tanya and Kristina - Part 2
Tanya and Kristina - Part 1
Veronica - Part 4
Veronica - Part 3
Veronica - Part 2
Veronica - Part 1
Tanya - Part 3
Tanya - Part 2
Tanya - Part 1
Tanya and Jana - Part 4
Tanya and Jana - Part 3
Tanya and Jana - Part 2
Tanya and Jana - Part 1
Julia - Part 2
Julia - Part 1
Julia and Ksusha - Part 4
Julia and Ksusha - Part 3
Julia and Ksusha - Part 2
Julia and Ksusha - Part 1
Sveta and Maya - Part 4
Sveta and Maya - Part 3
Sveta and Maya - Part 2
Sveta and Maya - Part 1
No one wants to see photos, do they?
After the last shoot I invited Andrei and Lena out to dinner. Lena had a previous commitment, so she had a drink with us and I went out with Andrei. He told me some interesting things about the models. One of the most striking things that I hadn’t realized is that few if any of them are widely known to be porn actresses. In fact most of them would be horrified if their friends or families found out. They work exclusively for non-Russian companies that only issue DVDs outside Russia. Some of them change their names every time they make a new DVD.
He also told me about a training program that he has begun offering. He told me he can teach people to meet a girl on the street and be fucking her in 10 minutes. He gives a class and then takes people out into the street for training sessions. He sits or stands nearby when they meet the girl and gives feedback afterwards. If you’ve seen the movie Hitch what he does is similar but is aimed at sex rather than dating. I asked him if he had ever fucked a girl 10 minutes after meeting her and he said yes. I asked him if he could show me (I offered him the use of my apartment) but he said he has a girlfriend now and doesn’t want to do something like that when he is with her. I’m definitely intrigued, but I won’t believe it until I see it.
Back at home I just noticed the new Evil Angel video release “Rocco Ravishes Prague”. You may remember from my report of several months ago that Rocco Siffredi was in town at the same time I was and that I had a couple of cancellations because he stole my girls. Well, here is the video he made:
[url]http://www.xrentdvd.com/Evil_Angel/Rocco_Ravishes_St_Petersburg.5-35332.html[/url]
One of the girls he stole from me was Genya, who I think is listed as Layma. She is the girl with Rocco on the cover with a red shirt that is partly pulled down. Another girl in the film who I managed to see anyway because her shoot with me didn’t conflict is Liz 420, credited as Lis, who I think is the girl in the center at the bottom on the cover who is licking the tit of the girl getting fucked. I also recognize her on the back cover. I’m not sure, but I might also recognize Tanya 102 in the background on the cover. I did a scene with her too. Anyway, Rocco, I’ve seen your videos and my scenes are hotter than yours.
Right after seeing me Karina and Julia 485 scored a trip to Paris. Karina made the cover of a Sineplex release, so she is on her way to becoming a star if things work out for her.
There is a new site that has some great pictures of Lena’s girls. It is a pay site, but it has some good free pictures and previews of movies. It is at zigi-zigi dot com.
The total cost of all of these seven shoot, including my tests and buying drinks to have on hand for the models, was about $4,000. This of course can vary depending on the girls and what you do in your scene. A good bit of advice is to bring new bills with you. Older US bills with the small pictures of presidents in the center can be hard for the models to change. You can also pay in rubles if you want. Try to find a place with good lighting.
I wasn’t sure if I was going to do a last scene because I couldn’t find girls that I wanted. Even many of the girls I had just seen, such as Julia 485, weren’t available. But the night before a new girl was added to the website: Kristina 486. Lena told me that she has already done several movies and is a new star. Her pictures on the site looked good. When she arrived she told me that she had just done a scene with Wiska, who is already a major star.
For the other girl I invited Tanya back again. She said she might do DV again and I suggested we wait until today and see how she felt. I also made a special arrangement. Originally the extra guy was going to be Konstantine, but he is huge. He told me that some girls can’t work with him because he is too big. So if we were going to try to convince Tanya to do DV again he wouldn’t be the best person to have join us. Lena said she would swap him with one of the people from the gangbang. But when Tanya showed up she said that she was feeling a little sore and preferred not to do it again anyway. Then the extra guy cancelled, so we asked one of the guys from the gangbang to stay and do a second scene. I wasn’t crazy about this because there had already been some performance problems and the odds of problems were worse with a guy who had just cum once already.
The girls were great! Kristina is a natural star. She had a perfect sense of what looked sexy. When she did a double blow job on two guys she did just the right combination of sucking on both dicks at the same time and then quickly switching back and forth. When she did a double blow job on me with Tanya she mixed in just the right amount of kissing Tanya and licking my dick together with her. When Tanya gave the guys a double blowjob Kristina held her from behind and stroked her hair.
We did a segment that I really loved where Kristina slouched in the stuffed chair and Tanya went down on her. I poked my dick in Kristina just a little and let Tanya lick my dick and Kristina together. Then I pulled out and let her lick Kristina some more. The other guy came over and the girls each took turns sucking two dicks at once and doing double-double blow jobs. Then we sat the girls on the windowsill and fucked them while they kissed us and each other.
We went to the bed for more sex and I asked Kristina if she would do DV. She said it was ok to do it for just a short while for a bit of extra money. I said ok, though we left up in the air what a bit of extra money might be. The question became moot anyway because the guy wasn’t able to get hard enough for us to try, which was annoying. We waited for him for a long time and then we just did a little more fucking and double cream pied Tanya.
Veronica was the first to show up at 11 AM on my last day. She spoke good English and we quickly got into a fun conversation. It took almost an hour for the four other guys to show up and Veronica was friendly and talkative the whole time. It was fun to wait with her.
Following the earlier discussion with Andrei I told him that I wanted do cream pies at the end of the scene, but disappointingly Veronica said she didn’t want to do them. She also didn’t want to do double vaginal. That cooled the mood a bit, but only temporarily. We went to the sunny alcove and made out. She got down and started giving me a blowjob and the other guys came over one by one. We did a long blow bang with lots of two dicks in the mouth and switching two dicks at a time. I got on the floor so she could sit on me and continue the blow bang.
We sat her on the windowsill and took turns fucking her in the window, changing the guy two or three times a minute. We did the same thing in the stuffed chair and then tried the sofa by the window, but the light wasn’t very good there, so we moved to the bed, put her on her back, and took turns on top of her. We put her head at the front corner so she could blow guys in both directions while we fucked her.
Andrei signaled to me that we had about 40 minutes of video already so I said we should sit her in the window so everyone could fuck her and then pull out and cum in her mouth. I started by fucking her without cumming Then the first guy fucked her for a long time, ending with a huge load that looked great on her. The second guy banged her hard for a long time too and I could see that she was getting tired. I thought of telling him to just jerk off in her mouth, but getting tired was part of it being a gangbang. When the third guy took a long time, though, it got to be too much and I said that the fourth guy should just jerk off and try to cum in her mouth at the same time as the third guy. But then the fourth guy decided that he couldn’t cum at all, so we just had the third guy cum in her mouth and then I went last. Actually the fourth guy also put his dick in her mouth when the third guy came to make it look like both guys were cumming, but it didn’t really work. It still was great, though. She looked really sexy with cum dripping all over her. I wanted to take a long last turn inside her but unfortunately I lasted only about ten seconds before I popped.
Victoria has two sets of pictures on Mixphoto and they are both terrible. She is also on Russiansexmodels.com and her pictures there are much much better.
When we finished we let in the guys who had been waiting outside and lo and behold they still weren’t all there even 1 ½ hours after the starting time. In fact the last guy showed up two hours late. Jana had a funny look on her face watching all the guys pouring into the room. Tanya, who had reason to look nervous, seemed relaxed.
We started up fast. It was about 4:00, but the light was fading and to my great disappointment we decided that we had to close the curtains and use natural lighting. The men for this gangbang were different from the ones for the last one and I could sense a different attitude from the start. I started alone with Tanya and when they came over to join in for blowjobs they had just the attitude I wanted. They were almost pushing each other to get to Tanya. We got all the guys in close around her, first for blow jobs, then for double blow jobs, switching back and forth between sets of two dicks. I got on the floor so she could sit on me and keep giving double blow jobs.
We put her in the stuffed chair, slouched down, and the guys all tried to be first in line to fuck her after me. Once we got going it was even hard for me to get my turn sometimes. (I knew I was the director and could always go to the front of the line when I wanted, but I didn’t want to spoil the party mood.) It was all very hot and I was sad that she didn’t do DP. A couple of the other guys had the same idea because they asked if she would do it and I or Andrei told them that she doesn’t. But then one of them said what about double vaginal and she said maybe for some extra money. There was a quick negotiation and we were able to agree. She was nervous about it and said she didn’t know if she could do it. We said that we would stop if it turned out to be too difficult, and she could stop whenever she wanted.
We moved to the bed where it would be more comfortable. I got on the bottom with her on top of me in CG. There was a period where I was worried the whole thing might fall apart because the guy who was going to do the DV with me suddenly wasn’t hard, but then another guy stepped up quickly and took over. He got hard quickly, entered her, and I waited to see if she was comfortable. We both fit with no problem. We started pumping away and she smiled. It was great. It was just like with Julia, only I think Tanya is even sexier. She is only eighteen years old! As soon as we had two dicks inside her the other guys quickly rushed to her mouth and took turns sticking two dicks in it with constant switching. It was a perfect gangbang. Then the guy behind Tanya started pumping fast and hard. She began grunting and I got nervous that we were being too hard on her. I asked Andrei if she was alright and he smiled and said “no problem, she likes it!”
We flipped her over and did the same thing in RCG. I would have come inside her in this position except that I wanted to cum at the end and after so many sessions I didn’t know if I could come twice in the space of 10 or 20 minutes, so I saved myself. We ended with every guy fucking her and cumming either in her mouth or doing a cream pie.
Tanya has two sets of pictures on Mixphoto. There is one in which she looks angelic and she probably is wearing a lot of make up. A second photo from that set makes her look heavier than she it. A second set of pictures with a red background look more like she does in reality, except that in reality she looks better.
I wanted to do some sightseeing, so I went right out the door first thing in the morning. I didn’t have a SIM card like last time, so Lena had no way to reach me and when I returned a little before 12 when the first shoot was scheduled I checked my email and there was a message from her saying that one of the girls for the FFMM scene had cancelled and we needed to find a replacement. I had already picked Jana 475 as the replacement for an earlier cancellation. I wasn’t crazy about Jana’s pictures, but the day before Vadim and I had gone through pictures of some of the girls who were available and he had said she was nice. He also said that Tanya 450 who I was going to do my second scene with that day, a gangbang scene, was really nice, so I asked Lena if Tanya could just come early and do two sets and she said ok.
Vadim had also given me updates on several other girls. Sveta 432 is still listed on the Mixphoto site even though she is pregnant. Vadim ran into her on the street and she said she was going crazy because she misses the sex so much and she is going right back to work as soon as she has the baby. Wiska 404 had a baby but is now back at work, and Natali 51 is pregnant and is retired for good, unfortunately.
Tanya showed up, but she didn’t come early. She came at 2:00, which was when the second set with four additional guys was originally scheduled to start. Jana was the first to show up. She had an attitude like Ksusha did, walking in and barely acknowledging me, so I was worried about how the session would be. Tanya was warmer, which put me at ease, and when the session started everything was good. They were both really nice.
We began with the three of us together, me with my arms around the girls holding them together as they made out with each other. The girls moved down for a double blowjob which lasted for a long time. They were good at some of the important technical aspects, like keeping two mouths on my dick except for periodic kissing. Then we sat in the stuffed chair and did lots of fucking while getting licked by the other girl.
We moved to the bed and did several positions, starting with my favorite—double spoon with the girls facing each other and kissing. I got them to go down on each other while the other was getting fucked and even do some licking of the dick doing the fucking. I had one girl sit on me at each end while they both blew the other guy and kissed.
Andrei said it was getting to be time to end the scene, so I said I wanted Jana to get cream pied. But there was a problem. Neither girl had put in a Pharmatex, and they had no other birth control. I had benefited from this because the girls were much more willing to do pussy to mouth without the bad taste of the Pharmatex, but now we needed it. I said why don’t they just put in Pharmatex tablets now, but Andrei said that they need time to dissolve and start working. I said we could just take a break and he got impatient. The scene had already started two hours late and guys had shown up for the second scene and were waiting outside. I asked if they were all here and he said he had no way of knowing because he hadn’t answered all his cell phone calls. It was about 3:30 and the second set was supposed to start at 2:00. But I insisted. I said that some of the models show up very late, so maybe they weren’t even all here. (In fact that turned out to be the case.)
We did the cream pies and for me it was worth the wait. Afterwards Andrei told me that I need to let people know what I want to do and if I want to do a cream pie at the end of a scene I need to say so because then the girls have to put in Pharmatex tablets. We had had some long sets, long largely because of some of the models showing up very late, and I think he was getting tired after several days of shooting.
Jana didn’t really look like her photos on Mixphoto. In the Mixphoto pictures she has short hair and looks school girlish. In person she had long hair that was completely different and maybe even a little lighter in color, and she looked much more sultry. I liked her much better in person. Her figure is accurately depicted, however.
Julia 485 (I saw two Julias this time) was the only girl who was available who would do DP for a reasonable price. Oh yeah, she also agreed to do it with five guys. Her current photos on Mixphoto are accurate depictions of what she looks like.
Annoyingly most of the models showed up late. People trickled in and when the last guy showed up 1 ½ hours late and everyone showered it was 4 PM and the light outside was so dim that we had to close the curtains and use electric lighting. We played with the strong light in the alcove so that it pointed up at the ceiling instead of straight down and that made the lighting much better for video, but it was a shame not to be able to use daylight and the pictures definitely suffered.
Julia was nice. Her kissing wasn’t passionate, but other than that there wasn’t much to complain about, and she did five guys at once with DP and double vaginal, so maybe in that situation it is a bit much to complain that she didn’t kiss me like a girlfriend.
The scene started with me alone with Julia. We kissed, she blew me, and I fucked her a little. Then Vadim came over, followed by the other guys and Julia gave everyone blow jobs. But the other guys weren’t assertive enough, so it was mostly me and Vadim getting blown because the others wouldn’t step forward and stick their dicks in her mouth. They would take a turn and then step back to await further instructions.
This confused me. We were five guys gangbanging a hot girl in a porno movie. Was this work for them? Some of them looked like they would have been just as happy to be home on their sofas watching the football game. Vadim has worked for Mixphoto for many years and is one of their most reliable performers. He understood what a gangbang should look like, so he and I probably did 2/3 of the action. The other guys spent a lot of time standing in the background with their arms folded across their chests. I had to nag them to come over and take their turn so that it would be a gangbang instead of three guys watching two other guys fuck a girl.
We put Julia in a stuffed chair facing outwards for RCG gangfucking so she could blow everyone, but we soon turned her around for a CG DP. It was good, but I could feel her tense up as soon as the anal started and I had to push hard to stay inside her as she clamped her legs together. The stuffed chair was awkward, so we moved to the bed where we could more easily DP her while she sucked us off. On the bed Vadim and I DPed her some more. Actually I prefer DV since I’m not so into anal and after a minute I asked if we could try DV. Julia said ok. I didn’t have high expectations since I had tried DV with a few of Lena’s other girls the last time I was in SP and none of them were able to do it comfortably; they were all too tight. But Julia was loose enough and it was great. We did it in several positions while she sucked the other guys. Finally I came inside her and it was someone else’s turn to fuck her. Only there was a problem. No one but me and Vadim could perform. The other guys took turns getting behind her and jerking off but no one could get hard enough to fuck, so we decided to take a break to see if the other guys could get hard. At one point I looked up and chuckled because I saw three guys hunched over, slowly jerking themselves and looking around nervously. In the middle sat Vadim, leaning back confidently with his arms folded across his chest, almost grinning.
The guys said they were ready and we tried DP in RCG, which we hadn’t done yet. Vadim got on the bed with Julia on top of him and did the anal. Julia was the only girl on all my shoots who would do DP, so I wanted to try it in all positions. But it was getting late, the scene had already lasted a long time, and Andrei was getting tired, so we kept it short and anyway it was enough for me. One guy fucked her and cream pied her and then I fucked her while everyone came in her mouth. Everyone was able to cum at the end, but I think some of the guys never even got to fuck her.
The next day I had to get up early. I had a couple of errands to run, plus I had to buy drinks and other supplies for the models when they arrived for the shoots. I asked Lena to schedule my shoots early at 11 AM and 2 PM when that there would be more daylight. It was late enough in the season that the days were getting longer so there were many hours of daylight, but the sky was always overcast, so the light was always dim.
Julia arrived first. She didn’t look as nice as in her pictures until she put on her makeup, which made a big difference and she knew it because she wouldn’t let me take a picture of her until she had put it on. She had a nice figure. Ksusha walked in late and never said a word to me, even when I said hi to her. I had a not so good feeling about her. In fact I was wary of both of them because they both do DP but when I asked Lena if they would do it for me she said they wanted ridiculous amounts of money for it and it wasn’t even worth bothering to ask.
We started with kissing, this time with me holding both girls in my arms so I could encourage them in case they forgot how much they like to DFK each other. After they had kissed for a minute or two I joined in, but I sometimes had to chase Ksusha and much of her kissing was with a closed mouth or she would kiss once or twice and then turn her head away. Julia was the first to go down and then Ksusha kissed a little better. Then they traded places and then both went down on me. When they were both down on me I kept having to prod Ksusha, since she was happy to lick a little and then take a long break and watch Julia.
I found Ksusha to be unresponsive. Whenever we changed positions her first reaction was to sit back and watch me and Julia. I had to tell her to do almost everything, and often more than once. If I told her to give me a blow job she would do it for a short while and then stop until I told her to keep going. Julia was better. She took much more initiative during the scene and I got an overall warmer feeling from her.
I sat on the windowsill and had Ksusha sit on me in RCG. Julia kissed her and then went down on her and right away I had to slow down because I was starting to cum. I pulled out and Julia licked me, but then saw a drop of cum on me. Ksusha leapt up and ran to the bathroom, saying that she didn’t want to have a baby. She’s making a porn movie, having bareback sex with someone she just met, and she isn’t using birth control? She showered and then we had to take a break so they could put in Pharmatex tablets for birth control, which they hadn’t done at the start.
She got back on me RCG on the windowsill and I had a hard time penetrating her because I had gone partly soft during the break. Usually when this happens the girl will do something to move into a better position or guide me inside her, but Ksusha did nothing to help as I fumbled around. At one point I thought I had the right spot and started to push, but it was the wrong hole. I didn’t get inside (it doesn’t interest me) but she got upset because she thought I was trying to sneak it in without paying extra or arranging it in advance.
Since she was being difficult about penetration we moved to the bed where it would be easier. We did a lot of lying on our sides with the girls facing each other and kissing while the other guy and I spooned them, switching sides often. We did me on my back with one sitting on me fucking, the other sitting on my face, and the two girls kissing and blowing the other guy.
After 40 or 50 minutes I needed to wrap things up, so I said first the other guy should cream pie Ksusha, but she refused even though she had used a Pharmatex. Maybe she was still cranky about that drop of cum earlier. Andrei told me afterwards she was unhappy about the imagined attempt at anal. Julia didn’t have a problem with cream pies, so we did a double cream pie inside her.
Tanya has good pictures on the Mixphoto site that portray her accurately. Ksusha’s pictures on Mixphoto don’t look like her. The site russiansexmodels.com has more accurate pictures of her. On RSM her name is Oxana.
I arrived in the middle of the day and had a shoot scheduled for that night. Andrei met me at 4:00 in the afternoon and we went to the clinic to get my tests done. I also had to buy supplies, including Pharmatex for the girls and KY for the DP scene, and that required also stopping to get rubles (which I should have gotten at the airport when I arrived).
Everyone showed up on time for this shoot, but my test at the clinic and getting supplies took longer than expected, so Andrei and I showed up about an hour late. It was already dark by then, so we had to shoot using just the electric lights in the apartment. We had tried to find some additional electric lights on the way home, but there was nothing good available.
Sveta was one of my favorites from last time. She is still beautiful. Maya is supposedly a star, because she has been in many movies, but I wasn’t crazy about her. She looked nice, but Sveta is much more beautiful. Maya spoke English and talked too much. I usually like it when the models speak English and we can have a conversation, but she talked too much and gave me the feeling that she wanted to be in control. When the girls undressed Maya was wearing a negligee, which looked nice and sexy, but I worried that maybe it wasn’t meant to be taken off right away.
We started with the girls by themselves under the brightest light in the apartment, which was in a nice alcove with large windows on two sides. In the photos the light looks great, but in the video it is too harsh and the color isn’t right. I had the girls begin by themselves with kissing but right away Maya started a routine of light touching and kissing on places that aren’t so exciting, like the leg, the back, or the stomach. She would do a quick kiss on one tit and then look up with a big smile like I was supposed to be going crazy over that. After a minute or two the clothes were still on and I signalled to the girls to take them off. Maya seemed to have a scripted routine that she was doing and didn’t notice me. Sveta saw me, but didn’t understand. I indicated that they should kiss more and Sveta tried, but sometimes she had to chase Maya. Finally I went over to join them and pull their clothes off. I would have liked to have more lesbian action, but things were moving so slowly.
I held them together as they kissed and it got hot. We all three kissed and then we got the underwear off. I had Sveta go down on Maya and got behind her. They gave me a double blow job. The script was then for me to take each girl to the sofa separately for a short MMF scene with the other guy, so we started with Sveta. She gave us a double blow job and then Maya came over early, so we just went straight to the four-way sex. We did some double-double blow job and then started fucking with the girls kissing and going down on each other while we fucked them. I tried to get them to do DV, but they didn’t want to, so we did one guy in front and the other in back and quick switching back and forth. The light wasn’t as good on the bed, but there was more space, so we moved there and did more fucking with the girls kissing and licking each other.
Andrei was getting tired. He said that we had nearly 50 minutes of video, which seemed like a signal to finish up soon. I wanted the other guy to do a cream pie inside Sveta, so I told him to cum when he was ready. Right away I realized I had made a small mistake because he was inside Maya and I was inside Sveta. I quickly told him to switch girls, but it was too late. My small mistake turned into a big one. Maya started squawking about how she doesn’t want to do any cream pies, she doesn’t do them, when she has a baby it is going to be her husband’s baby, blah blah … I said ok ok, that I didn’t want to do a cream pie with her anyway, I wanted to do it with Sveta, only now Sveta said she wouldn’t do one either. Sveta did several cream pies with me the last time I was in town, so I think she said this only because Maya had made such a scene.
So I settled for cumming in the girls mouths. We switched, so the other guy was inside Sveta. He pulled out and came in Mayas mouth. It was ok, but it wasn’t very visual. She took everything in her mouth with her mouth closed, so you couldn’t see anything. It looked pretty good when she let it all spill out on the guy’s hand while he jerked himself, but then I tried to get her to lick it off his hand and she wouldn’t do it. On the video Andrei uncharacteristically missed the shot, so I have nothing anyway. Then I came in both girls’ mouths and it dripped onto my hand, but I couldn’t get them to lick it. At least Andrei got the shot of that, and afterwards the girls did some really nice kissing.
Maya has several different pictures on Mixphoto and she looks completely different in each one. The current main one, the one with long dark hair and a blue outfit, is what she looked like when I saw her. Sveta’s pictures on Mixphoto are terrible. She is much more beautiful in person.
What’s been going on here? Six months and no reports of ISGers doing porn shoots? Do I have to do everything myself?
I know some of you have done shoots because Lena and Andrei told me they saw you and you mentioned me. So where are the reports?
Quick summary
I did seven shoots with Mixphoto models during my recent stay in Russia.
333 Sveta and 407 Maya MMFF
457 Julia and 424 Ksusha MMFF
485 Julia MMMMMF-DV/DP
450 Tanya and 475 Jana MMFF
450 Tanya MMMMMF-DV
456 Veronica MMMMMF
486 Kristina + 450 Tanya MMFF
The girls were harder to schedule during this visit. Several girls were in other cities doing shoots. A couple of them wanted too much money. Many of the girls I saw last time have retired from porn or at least from BG hardcore, and there are a lot of new girls, but they are on average not as available. On the other hand the cancellations were not so bad this time so if I did schedule a model I was better off. I had one last minute cancellation by a girl and three other cancellations with advance warning. It was much harder to find girls who would do DP, at least for a reasonable price.
For more information check out my September 30 2006 report.
ah, my god Catalyst, what u r doing is fantastic, is it for serious business or just fun?
You could say it goes beyond just having fun, but my employer doesn't pay for it and I don't deduct it from my taxes, so I don't think I can call it serious business. Let's call it a serious hobby.
Is this page accurate? Are there really zero views of the pictures so far?
[QUOTE=Catalyst]You could say it goes beyond just having fun, but my employer doesn't pay for it and I don't deduct it from my taxes, so I don't think I can call it serious business. Let's call it a serious hobby.
Is this page accurate? Are there really zero views of the pictures so far?[/QUOTE]
I dont think the counter is working (for any pics). I saw them - so.. dont worry - plenty of people have seen them I am sure.
You have had an awesome adventure. One thing I am not sure about: can anyone do this if they pay the money to the girls/Mixphoto? Does Mixphoto sell the videos or put pics on their website?
Cheers.
Anyone can do this if they pay and if they are professional and respectful with the models.
You control the pictures. Andrei (the cameraman Mixphoto hired for me) used my camera and camcorder and I have the only copies. You remain anonymous unless you choose to publish your pictures.
See my September 30 2006 report for more info.
Great stuff again Catalyst!
[QUOTE=Crypton]I dont think the counter is working (for any pics). I saw them - so.. dont worry - plenty of people have seen them I am sure.
You have had an awesome adventure. One thing I am not sure about: can anyone do this if they pay the money to the girls/Mixphoto? Does Mixphoto sell the videos or put pics on their website?
Cheers.[/QUOTE]1. Our company produce custom exclusive content for paysite. For sample:zigi-zigi.com and other. Its our business.
2. I work as model menager and organize a shoots.I organize privat shoots also(If I'll want it.) Its my hobby 8)
3. I can guarantee anonymus your personality.
4. I nothing not use and sell your images and movie 8)).
Great photos Catalyst!
Thanks for sharing!
[QUOTE=Catalyst]You could say it goes beyond just having fun, but my employer doesn't pay for it and I don't deduct it from my taxes, so I don't think I can call it serious business. Let's call it a serious hobby.
Is this page accurate? Are there really zero views of the pictures so far?[/QUOTE]You are my new hero Catalyst, and no the view numbers are not accurate.
[QUOTE=Catalyst]You could say it goes beyond just having fun, but my employer doesn't pay for it and I don't deduct it from my taxes, so I don't think I can call it serious business. Let's call it a serious hobby.
Is this page accurate? Are there really zero views of the pictures so far?[/QUOTE]
I reviewed them all. where can I find vedios? :-)
[QUOTE=Catalyst]No one wants to see photos, do they?[/QUOTE]Yeah we do but we also want to know prices for each girls. I want to know the facts that provide the basis for how everything as executed. Erotic stories are nice but I am too old to fantasize. I need to do a cost analaysis and you never discuss the prices for each girls.
[QUOTE=Catalyst]No one wants to see photos, do they?[/QUOTE]Also information on how the girls were tested, where they were tested, the logistics of getting them tested, reliable clinics, etc. I want to live after I am done with my fantasy.
[QUOTE=Catalyst]What’s been going on here? Six months and no reports of ISGers doing porn shoots? Do I have to do everything myself?
Also, I can tell from analayzing the pictures that the male in the photos are thin and underweight by Western European and American standards. Their skin color and tone makes them look Russian. I do not believe that you are in the photos. Look at all the WSG photos with mongers in them. No one is that thin. If you are a trader or IT guy who has the money to do this, you would have some fat on you or signs of agining. These guys appear by their body to be in their early 30s or late 20s.
Waaooohhh!!! Very nice photos, Catalyst. You obviously had a great time! I'm green with envy (and I'm probably not the only one ;)).
Jim
you can please some of the people, some of the time, but you can't please all of the people all of the time.
Guy # 2 - it never hurts to be suspicious, however, if you do take the time to look back into the thread you will find Catalyst's first series of groundbreaking posts. Many of the answers to your questions are there.
Thanks again, Catalyst. Awesome. Enjoy.
Coming to Pieter beginning of July for the first time.
Who can recommend a good apartment service?
Also: where can good nightlife be found? In regards to bars or discotheques with some action and pretty girls. Some names of places to start from would be appreciated.
Or maybe if you just like to hang out together for a beer drop me a line.
[QUOTE=Firewalkwithme]Coming to Pieter beginning of July for the first time.
Who can recommend a good apartment service?
Also: where can good nightlife be found? In regards to bars or discotheques with some action and pretty girls. Some names of places to start from would be appreciated.
Or maybe if you just like to hang out together for a beer drop me a line.[/QUOTE]
I use [url]http://www.saint-petersburg-apartments.com[/url]
Works for me.
As for clubs and discos, pretty girls are everywhere... it really depends on what you want:
* what kind of music
* age of girls
* type of crowd (student? elite?)
* do you need p4p (prostitutes)
etc. etc.
You need to specify a bit more.
A russian girl from SPb told me that Arena was for her the most happening place in town.
I think it's a mid-level/elite club.
Hi Doc,
thanks for the tip.
In regards to girls, I am looking for "normal" girls, students, at the age of 20 to 28. Maybe not the typical tourist places. I am pretty open to all kinds of music (except techno). I like places where you are still able to communicate. Just give me some good bars/clubs to start with. Thanks.
[QUOTE=Prosal]A russian girl from SPb told me that Arena was for her the most happening place in town.
I think it's a mid-level/elite club.[/QUOTE]
FWWM:
Prosal's girlfriend has the right idea... Arena is a good bet.
Communication is a bit of a problem in any club, as is their love of techno and house, but you should find numerous options.
I'm not in tune with the St.Petersburg scene so much right now as I haven't been there too often lately, but the following places have served me well:
Arena- mid-sized popular club, opened a few months ago, I think last fall.
Dacha- tiny, claustrophobic, smelly, cheap and packed full of student babes and a young local expat scene (another club called Ftory Etazh/2nd Story is next door/upstairs)... scored 2 Kazakh women there
Metro- big club with multiple areas, fairly young crowd... scored a fitness instructor/divorcee there
Rossi's- I never like the music there (on weekends they have live music) but I get laid there quite often, especially on Thursdays/student night. Do the math. :)
Decadance- nice place with young babe-ish crowd... some of them may be going to Arena now though...
Red club- haven't been there in a while... but used to draw good semi-elite crowd
Apollo- local crowd, heard good things about it but never actually been there myself
Onegin- like Red Club, haven't been to this "elite" place in a while, but it used to draw a top drawer crowd
I'll be in St.Pete in about 10 days, maybe I'll find something new... :)
You can find addresses etc. here:
[url]http://spb.afisha.ru/places/catalogue/?id=952077[/url]
[QUOTE=Doctor_Skank]FWWM:
Prosal's girlfriend has the right idea... Arena is a good bet.
Arena- mid-sized popular club, opened a few months ago, I think last fall.
Decadance- nice place with young babe-ish crowd... some of them may be going to Arena now though.[/QUOTE]Arena? Decadance? Hm, is there a River Palace too? ;)
Ok, let us know about your trip to SPB!
Hello,
I am planning a trip to St Petersburg and I would like to stay with an escort.
I don't want to travel to the city , I wanna stay in my hotel and wait for the escort. I have found a site called [url]www.petersburgescort.com[/url] and [url]www.lanaescort.com[/url].
Are they reliable? What do you suggest as escort agency in st petersburg for me?
Many thanks,
Barrito
[QUOTE=Firewalkwithme]Arena? Decadance? Hm, is there a River Palace too? ;)
Ok, let us know about your trip to SPB![/QUOTE]
I am almost forgot to say how it went.
I was in St.Pete for 3 nights, staying in the Moika 22 Kempinski. I usually stay in apartments (they are more practical in some ways, less practical in others) but this time was in a hotel due to business reasons. Those same business reasons did limit my mongering a bit, but thankfully I was easily able to compensate with some existing contacts and some late night escapades.
First night went to business dinner at "Fiolet", a lounge-like fusion-type restaurant. I really like this place, but it is pricey. About midnight was home and my girlfriend came over... she thankfully lives about 3 streets away. So nice sex and cuddling and then I passed out.
Second night dinner at "Russkaya Rybalka", a fish restaurant on Krestovsky island which is a lot of fun since you catch your own fish. Chirac and Putin ate there, so I guess it is ok...
Afterwards I went to Photomodeli and took a cute pro with a great ass for 3000 r (about $120) for 2 hours. No problem getting into hotel, not even a second look. DFK, BBBJ and as much sex as I could handle. Nice.
Saturday day I chased an internet contact around but she was difficult to track down so I gave up on her and decided to relax. I hate chasing girls and if it isn't happening I move on. It was raining outside so I just chilled and went out at night.
Tried:
xxxx (chitiri iks) - very popular bar-disco with loads of babeage from what I could tell... if I had gotten in. Was so packed that there was a crowd of about 40 OUTSIDE the club waiting to get in. Not a chance. I asked some hotties who also weren't going to get in where they recommend to go and all said Arena. Another disco named "Red Club" was a 5 minute walk though, and we decided to check it out instead.
Red Club - nice disco with a young unpretenious crowd. Normally that's a good thing, but about 2 am my battery ran out as the late nights and booze took their toll. My wingman and I decided to hit some salons and make an early morning selection.
We hit 3 salons which were all picked over. We even tried a Photomodeli salon called "Retro" which features pros on the 25+ side. These are usually girls who have either been in the game a long time or are girls who made a late season career choice. Unfortunately, this too was picked over. I finally found a girl in one of the salons. She must have been new because of about 15 girls at the salon, she was the only one worth taking, was really quiet and was tiny... about 1,60m and 42 kg... but with decent sized tits... at least they looked proportionally big on her tiny frame. Booked 2 hours for $120 and back to the hotel. My wingman, a local, decided to call it a night.
DFK, CBJ and as much sex as I could handle and again no problem with security.
All in all an average score for 3 days.
I can recommend Photomodeli salons... you may have to do some shopping, but there is usually a good selection especially in the week and early evening. Sometimes late night selection is also great as the girls came back for a second or third "job".
You can try XXXX... but get there early or reserve a table. It gets silly full on the weekends, but there was a serious babe factor.
Arena seems to be the top club in town, at least that's what most hotties told me. Didn't actually visit myself instead choosing a $120 pro option.
Red Club was quite full but not really my scene. Had I been in a different frame of mind and boozed it up in the club, groping and slobbering all over some student-type chicks it could have been cool though. :)
Good luck and tell us how it goes for you!
[QUOTE=Doctor_Skank]
Second night dinner at "Russkaya Rybalka", a fish restaurant on Krestovsky island which is a lot of fun since you catch your own fish. Chirac and Putin ate there, so I guess it is ok...
Afterwards I went to Photomodeli and took a cute pro with a great ass for 3000 r (about $120) for 2 hours. No problem getting into hotel, not even a second look. DFK, BBBJ and as much sex as I could handle. Nice.
[/QUOTE]
Chirac and Putin, those great WSG mongers. RC ate there during the SPb 300th Anniversary celebrations and it is a lot of fun. My current personal favourite place for dinner in SPb is "Restoran" - but an expense account helps as it ain't cheap.
Doc, I've been to various Photomodelli establishments perhaps a dozen times. Never had a take-away and never had a BBBJ no matter what methods of persuasion I've tried to use. A couple of Q's. Is the hourly rate the same for take out and was the BBBJ offered/easily negotiated?
Ricardo Cabron
[QUOTE=Ricardo Cabro]Chirac and Putin, those great WSG mongers. RC ate there during the SPb 300th Anniversary celebrations and it is a lot of fun. My current personal favourite place for dinner in SPb is "Restoran" - but an expense account helps as it ain't cheap.
Doc, I've been to various Photomodelli establishments perhaps a dozen times. Never had a take-away and never had a BBBJ no matter what methods of persuasion I've tried to use. A couple of Q's. Is the hourly rate the same for take out and was the BBBJ offered/easily negotiated?
Ricardo Cabron[/QUOTE]
Take-away is usually the same price, although I've sometimes been quoted 200-300 rubles more... which is ok since the taxi driver will take you and the girl to your hotel/apartment FOC and picks the chick up. No need to tip really.
As for BBBJ, I quite literally just climbed up on top of her and shoved my cock in her mouth. She didn't protest, although the position was uncomfortable and she eventually maneuvered herself on top of me.
In my experience about 50% of the photomdeli chicks won't do BBBJ though.. it's their choice. I think Petersburg salons are one of the best things going right now, especially take-away. The girls don't get as crazy as say some CF chicks do, but the PM girls are often very very hot and the price is very nice.
The only thing that kind of bugs me is that almost none of them drink alk, since their shift is long. I prefer it when girls get drunk and stupid... meaning they'll be on the same wavelength as me.. :)
[QUOTE=Lovedatslavicass]Hello fellow mongers,
Last summer I had a fun time in Kharkov, and if you can deal with total boredom that is being in the industrial east of Ukraine, the girls are great there. Very nice and helpful too. I'm thinking about "testing the waters" in Sankt Petersburg this summer and wanted to know your thoughts. I'm all about the freebie scene. Sure, there are usually more strings involved in that scene, but it can be more rewarding in the end. Those of you who score freebies with regularity can probably vouch for that. I don't necessarily have to limit myself to SPB, I can travel elsewhere, so. Leaving out visa hassles, boredom factor of the given city, and political worries, my question is: Which is the best country to score freebies in, pound-for-pound? Is it just luck of the draw, or do you think there is a difference in dyev's attitudes from different regions/countries of the FSU? Of course, there is going to be more to do in SPB than Kharkov, but I'm really only there for one reason. Aren't we all? Just thought I'd pose this question to the forum. Thanks for any feedback.[/QUOTE]
Freebie scene: Russia vs. Ukraine vs. Belarussia
Sounds like you and I might the same type of girls. I don't like the pros. I prefer the amateurs or freebies. I was sorry no one answered this question seriously. I have been many times to cuba and never to east europe. I imagine east europe is played out, over, ruined. I would be tempted to go if I knew a good place to go. I'd sure love to talk to you or someone who know about east europe. more about this and share what I know about Cuba and Brazil. Let me know what you think.
Thomas
You can still get freebie in the FSU but it's not like it used to be. Now you have to speak russian and have time and some money because girls over there like to go out, it's not with a bigmac that you will get the girl in your room. For easy freebie you have to go to China out of the big city and yes Cuba out of the tourist place is still a good place.
Sun Rise
I think it's very possible to still get freebies by the boat load. Try travelling to a smaller city (100,000-200,000) out somewhere east in European Russia or Western Siberia. I've been to a few of these smaller cities, and hardly any foreigners go there. Hotels are cheap ($30/night for euro-remont) and all of these towns have nightclubs that get PACKED on the weekends. Absolutely dead during the week though.
Have you ever heard of Achinsk or Votkinsk?
People will be stunned to meet a foreigner in those kinds of places. Younger girls there will almost certainly never have been outside of Russia, possibly never even to Moscow/St.Pete. From those towns a train is 24+ hours to Moscow, and there are often no airports in the smaller towns, so any kind of travel is not easy and a big ordeal. Average salaries are very low, and prices are low too.
Ricardo,
Docs’ extensive tour in pussy heaven has him acting as a Russian male. Works pretty well most of the time but not all.
He took the typical Russian male approach of dick in mouth without asking. Those of us that are accustomed to other countries unfortunately are clinging to the niceties of our upbringing still ask once. Big mistake.
Asking can work, expect hearing several times no. Be stern then magically the word “OK” slips out. You must demand as a Russian male would. Kind of a “you can and you will” type sales close. Getting them away from the salon with all the cash into the girl’s pocket does not hurt either. I always ask for phone# for direct booking after the 1st meeting.
We met back in 2004 at the Congo café; I know you have an extensive amount of experience in RU. Leave the politeness at home, and BBJ and anal is easier to obtain.
Took me a while to learn how not to be so nice.
Guido88
[QUOTE=Latexian2]
Try travelling to a smaller city (100,000-200,000) out somewhere east in European Russia or Western Siberia. I've been to a few of these smaller cities. Absolutely dead during the week though.
Have you ever heard of Achinsk or Votkinsk?
[/QUOTE]
Must get pretty fucking boring waiting out the whole week for just the weekend. Who the hell has that much time to kill sitting around doing nothing? Sounds intolerable. If you don't at least have the potential of getting pussy EVERY day, what is the fucking point?
Sorry, just not a 2 day per week monger. Gotta live for 24/7/365 pussy.
Yes if you speak russian you can still have freebie in small russian city of siberia but if you are only there for sex and not for work you will get a depression before you fuck. Have seen small city in russia? Ugly and boring like hell.
Sun Rise
[QUOTE=Guido88]Ricardo,
Docs’ extensive tour in pussy heaven has him acting as a Russian male. Works pretty well most of the time but not all.
He took the typical Russian male approach of dick in mouth without asking. Those of us that are accustomed to other countries unfortunately are clinging to the niceties of our upbringing still ask once. Big mistake.
Asking can work, expect hearing several times no. Be stern then magically the word “OK” slips out. You must demand as a Russian male would. Kind of a “you can and you will” type sales close. Getting them away from the salon with all the cash into the girl’s pocket does not hurt either. I always ask for phone# for direct booking after the 1st meeting.
We met back in 2004 at the Congo café; I know you have an extensive amount of experience in RU. Leave the politeness at home, and BBJ and anal is easier to obtain.
Took me a while to learn how not to be so nice.
Guido88[/QUOTE]
Guido88:
I am not sure whether that is me adapting to local standards or just having fucked so many women that I don't like to play around and instead like to start doing what I like to do from the get go. A certain degree of forward assertiveness comes with experience, otherwise you just spin your wheels without getting any traction... and most girls appreciate the man directing the show. :)
Like you said, you have to learn to not be so nice, at least when it comes to getting what you want. There are other times to be nice however, which can lead to some nice rewards... generally what people call GFE.
A lot of things I learned the hard way... some things I'll probably never learn.
Do hope I never turn into a Russian male though... :)
As for BBBJ, for a few years already now it is no longer par for the course. With the take home overnight type I still almost always get it, freebies will always do it and the short-term take home type (usually salon girls like PM or quickies from the net or whatever) will do it about 50% of the time. Some are very adamant about not doing it and I don't argue too much if they are really serious about it. Who knows... maybe they know something I don't and are actually trying to protect me...
...shame though, because CBJ for me is just stupid and boring. Might get me hard pre-sex, but isn't nearly as pleasurable as her wet tongue on my bare cock.
Hey Doc,
No you are not as the usual Russian male, but I suspect the years spent in RU have changed your approach considering your being raised with in the Land Of The Fem Nazi’s. Would you agree there has been a strong swing in your attitudes towards women since your frequent opportunities to be in RU?
As to what you have learned you should write some type of mini primer to RU Pussy. Would be educational and entertaining, available at airport kiosks worldwide……Lol CT and I had talked about that a couple of years ago, never moved ahead with it. I think Spangle from WSA was going to do something along that line with translations.
Biggest problem I see is going to Russia, which for me is sex and attitude heaven, is then having to return back to Fem Nazi Hell.
As for the GFE for me its whether or not we click. By nature and upbringing I am far too nice and have found the RU women can smell it and if you let them they will exploit those qualities to the max. I have never abused or forced anyone but persistence can be helpful.
Funny I remember my 1st RU girlfriend telling me I Must! tell her what to do. It was both what she expected and wanted from a man. Made things easier from then on with the RU girls.
BBJ has to be the tops for sex play for me. Unfortunately I agree the possibilities exist for problems. Still I almost cannot turn it down when available from some stunning little fox. For me a couple of blowjobs in the afternoon is the best way to start the day.
Had asked my doctor several years ago about the best way to sanitize after sex; his recommendation was washing with equal parts hydrogen peroxide to water. Should kill anything and use the rubbers for the act. Never leave home without it and after many countries and years it seems to work well.
Guido88
I used Lana twice last year. The pictures were real. A girl sent to my hotel had dirty feet and a cell phone that wouldn't keep ringing. She was a cold fish--I sent her home after one of two booked hours. I visited another girl at her apartment--wonderful experience--6 feet tall, beautiful bikini figure, college student, let me make her come. She was a little professional, but so sexy lounging in her bed drinking tea that I caught fire a third time without her complaining.
Photemodeli was pretty fair--hit and miss on enthusiasm, but beautiful girls of all types (young college girls, Uzbek cuties, full time semipros). A 23 year old red headed law student had a body out of Penthouse and sweaty enthusiasm that didn't quit after only an extra $20 tip. A large breasted Uzbek girl was highly intelligent and did the deed without much enthusiasm. A blond nordic beauty was pretty much a limp receptacle so I played around with her accordingly. None of these girls, though, compared in beauty with the slender, tall knockouts walking around on the main shopping streets, often with boyfriends in tow.
[QUOTE=Barrito]Hello,
I am planning a trip to St Petersburg and I would like to stay with an escort.
I don't want to travel to the city , I wanna stay in my hotel and wait for the escort. I have found a site called [url]www.petersburgescort.com[/url] and [url]www.lanaescort.com[/url].
Are they reliable? What do you suggest as escort agency in st petersburg for me?
Many thanks,
Barrito[/QUOTE]
Guido88, Doc.
I haven't really had any problems in Russia getting bbbj except in salons - I always assumed this was just house rules. I was curious to know if the girls were more relaxed about this with take away service.
Learning not to be nice is quite difficult for many westerners, particularly when our societies are becoming more and more PC. I feel it is more a matter of confidence and its how you ask, not what you ask for. I'm a fairly accomplished chameleon having learnt to do business in many countries and cultures on all continents. I play the English Gentleman card when appropriate and good manners are always appreciated by the ladies (holding a door open is simple, polite and effective). As Doc says this can help those GFE moments.
I agree with general comments that a lot of the girls probably see westerners as a soft touch but I remember way back in the Moscow forum many posts from mongers saying how they got great service and warmth from tochka girls just by being firm but fair with them. This was useful info that I've learnt from - nice doesn't have to mean weak - think benevolent dictator.
The line between Russain male assertiveness and intimidation is a fine one to tread for westerners. I feel that if you have to intimidate someone into doing something they probably won't be happy doing it. For me the key is to remain in control - if the girl ever feels she is in control then its no good trying "not to be nice", she's already sussed your real character.
Just my 2 shots worth.
RC
[QUOTE=Ricardo Cabro]Guido88, Doc.
I haven't really had any problems in Russia getting bbbj except in salons - I always assumed this was just house rules. I was curious to know if the girls were more relaxed about this with take away service.
Learning not to be nice is quite difficult for many westerners, particularly when our societies are becoming more and more PC. I feel it is more a matter of confidence and its how you ask, not what you ask for. I'm a fairly accomplished chameleon having learnt to do business in many countries and cultures on all continents. I play the English Gentleman card when appropriate and good manners are always appreciated by the ladies (holding a door open is simple, polite and effective). As Doc says this can help those GFE moments.
I agree with general comments that a lot of the girls probably see westerners as a soft touch but I remember way back in the Moscow forum many posts from mongers saying how they got great service and warmth from tochka girls just by being firm but fair with them. This was useful info that I've learnt from - nice doesn't have to mean weak - think benevolent dictator.
The line between Russain male assertiveness and intimidation is a fine one to tread for westerners. I feel that if you have to intimidate someone into doing something they probably won't be happy doing it. For me the key is to remain in control - if the girl ever feels she is in control then its no good trying "not to be nice", she's already sussed your real character.
Just my 2 shots worth.
RC[/QUOTE]
RC:
You touch on a good point. Assertiveness does work, but one thing that has NEVER worked well for me is being a brute. I tried it out a couple of times and found that it turns most girls off. They either get scared and skittish (and no fun) or counter-aggressive (also no fun).
Assertive, demanding and forward: Absolutely.
Clumsy, thuggish and brutish: Not for me.
As for salons and BBBJ, I've very rarely stayed in a salon for sex. Since the price for takeout is essentially the same, I've always taken her home. This is a St.Pete thing though... for example in Moscow many salons don't offer take out service.
I agree that the main point is maintaining the initiative.
G88:
Being too nice is a no-go, just as chasing after girls is also a no-go. That can turn them off. Applied niceties do work wonders though. Keeping them guessing also keeps them interested. One thing that works really well with the freebies for me is letting them know or at least implying that there are other women in the game. Girls like guys who are popular with other girls. The like trophies just as much as guys do. It isn't all about looks with girls though (we guys tend to focus mostly on that)... equally important are things like status. Status is measured not only by (but often including) money, but a number of other factors. She wants to be able to show you off to her girlfriends or at least brag about you.
Russian women are fiercely competitive with one another. They are constantly trying to one-up each other by comparing holiday photos, the latest fashion purchases and even the status or coolness of their boyfriends, lovers and suitors.
This can help us, if she knows somebody else is after you, she might just switch to her a-game... and as you already know, a Russian girl's a-game can knock your socks off... :)
Hi!
I will go to St P fin July for the first time. Heard that in almost every hotellobby there´s girls avaiable. Anyone with an idea if there´s any hotel better than the others?
Niklas
[QUOTE=Nicke1961]Hi!
I will go to St P fin July for the first time. Heard that in almost every hotellobby there´s girls avaiable. Anyone with an idea if there´s any hotel better than the others?
Niklas[/QUOTE]
You'll enjoy St.Pete I am sure.
I am not a hotel expert because I rarely stay there, but my few visits lead me to believe that for lobby girls, it will depend on which hotel you are in... I wouldn't bet the farm on it for Western hotels. Very hit or miss. I've seen lobby girls in the Grand Hotel Europe and the Kempinski Moika 22... in both cases the girls looked 30ish and average. Just as often I've passed the lobby bars and there was nobody there, or the lobby bar was closed after midnight. Hotels with large pro stock is soooo 1998. Times are changing. Not sure about Russian hotels, they may have better and more abundant selection. Most big Russian hotels have 1 bar in the complex which has pros. That said, Russian hotels suck in almost every other way.... especially location. Pribaltskaya and Pulkovskaya for example are nowhere near the center. Oktyabryskaya is... and had pros last time I was there in 2003.
Still, you might get lucky in the lobby bars, even though I am sure the price tag will be about $150-250... so I think any agency (see the St.Pete times) or even better one of the Photomodeli salons could offer you something more affordable and higher quality. Just my 2 cents.
[QUOTE=Doctor_Skank]You'll enjoy St.Pete I am sure.
I am not a hotel expert because I rarely stay there, but my few visits lead me to believe that for lobby girls, it will depend on which hotel you are in... I wouldn't bet the farm on it for Western hotels. Very hit or miss. I've seen lobby girls in the Grand Hotel Europe and the Kempinski Moika 22... in both cases the girls looked 30ish and average. Just as often I've passed the lobby bars and there was nobody there, or the lobby bar was closed after midnight. Hotels with large pro stock is soooo 1998. Times are changing. Not sure about Russian hotels, they may have better and more abundant selection. Most big Russian hotels have 1 bar in the complex which has pros. That said, Russian hotels suck in almost every other way.... especially location. Pribaltskaya and Pulkovskaya for example are nowhere near the center. Oktyabryskaya is... and had pros last time I was there in 2003.
Still, you might get lucky in the lobby bars, even though I am sure the price tag will be about $150-250... so I think any agency (see the St.Pete times) or even better one of the Photomodeli salons could offer you something more affordable and higher quality. Just my 2 cents.[/QUOTE]
Pribaltskaya and Pulkovskaya are excatly nowhere! Never go there!
One resonable Russian "Business" hotel is Hotel Moskva, but you have to take a better room in the choiche, price around 150 USD/night low season or more up to 250... high season there is "movements" at the bar (usually three/four, and in the lobby too, nothing exceptional but fuckab... No price idea), plus you have the metro at 3 meters from the entrance, and you are at the end of Nevsky Prospekt... Getting a girl to your room is not difficult, just register her and pay the fee.. usually 1 RUR, but she can't sleep so you have to bribe the security as usual... but you can buy a double occupation suite...
IT
PS Just two more cents, perhaps we get up to a dollar!
I too have been researching the forum for a good hotel and was told that both the Corinthia Nevskij Hotel and the Grand Hotel Emerald are good "girl friendly" hotels. Is this true or was I give the wrong information??
I wish this Forum would also have a "hotel" section like the BKK forum
RC,
No doubt with the Tochka girls they appreciate a warm apartment, food and drink along with a male who is relatively nice to them. Sometimes it’s hard to get them to leave after 18 hours. I think many come from hard lives and are probably not living in the best of accommodations.
1st RU trip second Tochka girl, get her back to the apt, fix drinks, let her watch TV then on to bed where she receives a massage and promptly falls asleep with no intention of waking for sex. She correctly pegged me for a tourist and decided to take the night off with pay. Mistake on my part, should have been more direct and less nice. 2nd night in Moscow, did not have a clue as to the Tochka location to return her lazy ass.
Funny thing is she was a little vixen who Doc had done at an earlier time and posted pics of with a stellar revue. Ah……. the luck of the draw.
Doc had made a post a couple of years ago along the lines of “the Russian women know their place and like it that way” Found this to be true. No reason to be a brute, many reasons to be assertive, direct letting them know their expected place. If allowed many of the Devs will play games, be lazy, steal small items ect…
IMHO that’s where western men need to adjust their thinking. I have had on a rare occasion salon girls that refused to give head period. After hearing NO 4 times, the word OK magically pops out with a smile and she happily goes to work then later asks for a tip. She was simply testing boundaries.
Doc,
Excellent point on the competition aspect. Kind of fun to watch girlfriends brazenly compete for your attention. The # of single women in St Pete’s far outweighs the number of mature single males with more than a few rubles in their pocket.
The ratios in the clubs can at times almost make you feel guilty. But not quite, just the reverse ratios of what I normally see in clubs in my country.
Here’s to the pursuit of the A game.
Guido88
The Corinthia is a pretty good hotel and is next door to a Photmodelli parlor and across the street from Magrib. I don't know about "lobby girls", but when I returned to the hotel after 11 PM there were three women sitting patiently in chairs right next to the elevators--high side of 30's, very polite. They asked if I wanted company. I wasn't interested--well dressed, heavily made-up pros, but not particularly attractive.
[QUOTE=Firebird]I too have been researching the forum for a good hotel and was told that both the Corinthia Nevskij Hotel and the Grand Hotel Emerald are good "girl friendly" hotels. Is this true or was I give the wrong information??
I wish this Forum would also have a "hotel" section like the BKK forum[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Guido88]No doubt with the Tochka girls they appreciate a warm apartment, ....[/QUOTE]
Indeed. Unfortunately, I haven't been able to locate any tochka in St-Pete in my previous visits.
Will be back in St-Pete in June-July. Would appreciate some hints on tochka approximate areas in St-Pete. I stay at a friend who has a car and we drove around a lot at night, but I have never been able to spot a tochka beacon anywhere.
Thanks
GandJim,
To my knowledge there is no Tochka type operations in St Petes. Spangle off WSA had found an area on the RU Russian boards with a few street girls, but that it as far as I know. RC and I were referencing RU women’s attitudes in general including Moscow Tochkas as example. Sorry if I gave the wrong impression. With so many great options in Petersburg no Tochkas is not a huge loss.
The salons in Petes overall are quite good with some real cuties. I have used various ones Dominos, Photomdeli salons with good results and there is one over on the canal Gribolvolda. (sp?) that I like.
[url]http://www.fantaziyalove.ru/news.html[/url]
Stary Nevsky has a bunch of them.
My approach is to initially go to the salon to see a line up. Then either partake there or take home and when I know which girls I want call for home delivery later. The girls I like I always get their cell number and see them on their own time. Better value and service.
Either use a cabbie to find them or pick the magazines at the newsstands in the metro.
Rendezvous is one I Mag looks something like this in Crylic- PaHAeBY There will be another next it as well.
Also Spangle posted salon contact info with google earth maps I think on WSA. If you have not looked at that board its well worth the cost to join for a month.
Internet is good for home delivery as well.
Omen.RU has an intimate section that can be great. Got 2 cousins 19 & 20 delivery, full service with lesbian. Thought I had died and gone to heaven.
Here’s a couple of links:
[url]http://amurspb.ru[/url] used this for several years
[url]http://spb.s09.ru/[/url] many links off this link.
Have fun
Guido88
Thanks Guido, I was just curious about the tochkas. For the salons, I have already visited many of them over the years.
However, in the last couple of years, prices in salons have almost double. Compared with last year, there is usually a 25% increase. So that's why I was hoping there is a cheaper alternative in St-Pete when I saw you mentioning tochkas, because that's one of my budget options when I'm in Moscow.
Jim
PS: By the way, you can post in cyrillic in this forum. The magazine is "Рандеву" ;). Is the other magazine you're talking about "Знакомства", or is it another one ? (see covers on their website: [url]http://www.randevu.su/[/url] and [url]http://zdv.ru/[/url])
Hi,
Thank you for your comments but do you really think that the picture of the girls you see in these internet sites are true?
[QUOTE=Guido88]GandJim,
To my knowledge there is no Tochka type operations in St Petes. Spangle off WSA had found an area on the RU Russian boards with a few street girls, but that it as far as I know. RC and I were referencing RU women’s attitudes in general including Moscow Tochkas as example. Sorry if I gave the wrong impression. With so many great options in Petersburg no Tochkas is not a huge loss.
The salons in Petes overall are quite good with some real cuties. I have used various ones Dominos, Photomdeli salons with good results and there is one over on the canal Gribolvolda. (sp?) that I like.
[url]http://www.fantaziyalove.ru/news.html[/url]
Stary Nevsky has a bunch of them.
My approach is to initially go to the salon to see a line up. Then either partake there or take home and when I know which girls I want call for home delivery later. The girls I like I always get their cell number and see them on their own time. Better value and service.
Either use a cabbie to find them or pick the magazines at the newsstands in the metro.
Rendezvous is one I Mag looks something like this in Crylic- PaHAeBY There will be another next it as well.
Also Spangle posted salon contact info with google earth maps I think on WSA. If you have not looked at that board its well worth the cost to join for a month.
Internet is good for home delivery as well.
Omen.RU has an intimate section that can be great. Got 2 cousins 19 & 20 delivery, full service with lesbian. Thought I had died and gone to heaven.
Here’s a couple of links:
[url]http://amurspb.ru[/url] used this for several years
[url]http://spb.s09.ru/[/url] many links off this link.
Have fun
Guido88[/QUOTE]
Hey GandJim,
Yes those are the two magazines, good research.
After reading your PM looks like you are well acquainted with the salon scene. Unfortunately pricing has increased in the past couple of years.
One monger described the increase as the result "PIF" epidemic worldwide.(Pussy Inflation Factor) Problem is we have to have it.
Still considering the quality available in Petersburg pricing is better than most of the world for petite light skin women. My favorite!
Thinking might be time for a trip to lesser-traveled areas in RU for better value.
Guido88
GandJim, Guido88,
This may be something of a red herring but I saw something approaching a tochka in St Petersburg a few years ago. I can't remember the exact time but it was a few months before I discovered the photomodelli salons so probably 2003.
I took a taxi in search of girls and the driver took me off I know not where. He stopped outside a cafe/bar (this was about 1:00am) and 3 girls came running out across the pavement to the car window. One of them spoke excellent English but was clearly a transexual (never bothered to ask if pre or post op) so I told the driver to move on.
The next stop was an archway leading to a courtyard and parked in the archway was another car. 4 girls poured out of the car with the mamochka in the front passenger seat. None of them were keepers so we moved on again, finally arriving at an appartment on Vossanya Ulica, which I visited the following night as well. All 3 locations were in the same general part of SPB as Vossanya Ul.
The "tochka in a car" was not on the same scale as Moscow - but the system does, or did, exist. My Russian isn't good enough to find this type of service deliberately, but others may fair better. The only reason it took me so long to arrive at an appartment was because I couldn't ask for what I wanted and just kept repeating "girls, dyevochki, da" to the driver.
RC
Just checked backwards and the date was March 2004.
RC
[QUOTE=GandJim]....
However, in the last couple of years, prices in salons have almost double. Compared with last year, there is usually a 25% increase.
....[/QUOTE]
Last time I was in Piter, was september 2004 and more or less was 100$ for one hour,which prices are we expecting to have this year?
Thanks!
Hi Ricardo
I was in ST Petersberg April 2004 and i stayed at 95 Nevsky, walking distance from my Hotel near the main Train station their was a Jewelry store on the corner steps from the store in front of the Building their was a Woman standing with few girls i took one for around $ 50 for an hour but the quality is realy bad.
Toptraveler1,
Yes I do. Many times I have found the same girls as advertised on the net or in the Mags. Other girls will be available that are not in the ads. As per always it’s the luck of the draw.
Not to say bait and switch does not happen but the better known RU salons seem to stick to the rules much better than other areas in the world where bait and switch is the norm. If you describe what you want they will normally try to send that. Or you can ask that they send several and you decide.
Your mileage may very
RC
Had the same mini Tochka thing happen in Odessa, took the combined efforts of 2 taxis and a dozen phone call to find a car full pussy for a “Horny American” I love how the Russian cabbies make it their mission in life to find you some girls. True comrades.
Guido88
[QUOTE=Lukasek]Last time I was in Piter, was september 2004 and more or less was 100$ for one hour,which prices are we expecting to have this year?
Thanks![/QUOTE]
Don't know in USD as I always pay in roubles. In addition, with the decrease of the USD in the recent years, the price increase should be even more significant.
Presently, the going rate is about 2000 to 2500 RUR an hour in the majority of salons I know, with a couple at 3000 RUR. It was about 1500 RUR a few years ago.
Since February 2007 when I last checked their price for my next visit, Amsterdam, Babochka, Elis, Tsum, Golden Lotus for example have increased the hourly rate of some of their salons from 2000 RUR to 2500 RUR.
Jim
Thanks Jim!
Oanda actually shows 2500 rubles as 71 euro...
Thinking what I pay in Darlings in Prague a week ago for right a girl from Piter sounds very good...
You mongers in Russia,
Can we trust the photos of the girls on those sites?
I am a fan of the Russian and Baltic girls but I have lost the good feeling about traveling to the girls mothercountrys. Why go to Russia when you get the NICE Russian girls in Fx Germany and London?
Do you really advice a trip to Russia and the Baltics if you dont know where to go to get the nice girls easy? I am thinking about what would be the easiest wat and also most value for my money.
I know the situation is easy in Germany compared to fx Russia. Am I wrong?
[QUOTE=Toptraveler1]Hi,
Thank you for your comments but do you really think that the picture of the girls you see in these internet sites are true?[/QUOTE]
If I were you and traveling only for the girls I would not go to the Baltics states the goldons days are way over... If you are german you will have a nice polish or ukranien girl in any FKK club in Berlin. But if you speak some russian have time to spend and money Russia will the palce to go. Again if you are just looking for a quick fuck stay in Germany for England I don't know the price. Have Fun
Sun Rise.
[QUOTE=Dick1]
You mongers in Russia, Can we trust the photos of the girls?
I am a fan of the Russian girls but I have lost the good feeling about traveling to the girls mothercountrys.
Why go to Russia when you get the NICE Russian girls in Germany?
Do you really advice a trip to Russia if you dont know where to go?
I am thinking about the easiest and most value for my money.
[/QUOTE]
You want easy?
Then DON'T come!
Since when was easy EVER better?
But you can trust these, hehehe!
[QUOTE=Dick1]You mongers in Russia,
Can we trust the photos of the girls on those sites?
I am a fan of the Russian and Baltic girls but I have lost the good feeling about traveling to the girls mothercountrys. Why go to Russia when you get the NICE Russian girls in Fx Germany and London?
Do you really advice a trip to Russia and the Baltics if you dont know where to go to get the nice girls easy? I am thinking about what would be the easiest wat and also most value for my money.
I know the situation is easy in Germany compared to fx Russia. Am I wrong?[/QUOTE]
Dick1:
Comparing FKK to pros to salons (the FKK equivalent) in the Motherland is easy... both are great options.
In terms of quality of girl and price, Germany wins by a nipple... however Russia sticks her tits out to take overall best score in terms of value for money and "extras".
Here's the way I break it down.
FKK:
+ Cheap, visa-free flights to Germany
+ girls from 5-9 category available
+ girls from whole world available
+ BBBJ standard
+ most girls good to excellent performers
+ many FKKs have nice facilities
+ relatively low cost for standard service (50 euro club entry + 50 euro 30 min session FS/BBBJ)
+ some girls speak English
- clock-watching
- sessions 20-30 minutes
- multiple or extended sessions get pricey fast
- usually only one "O" allowed per 30 min session
- no pictures
- FKK atmosphere can never really be GFE
- occasional "fast food" service i.e. brothel atmosphere
Russian salon pros:
+ girls from 5-9 category available
+ most girls good to excellent performers
+ long sessions (1-2 hours)
+ some girls allow pictures
+ due to long session, often GFE
+ take out option adds privacy
+ overall price low (about $100-140/2 hours)
+ multiple sessions/positions etc.
- most girls only speak Russian
- BBBJ getting more and more rare
- salons can be VERY hard to find for those unfamiliar with Russia and speaking Russian
- visa and expensive hotels in Russia
Depending on my mood, I find both options to be great. If I HAD to chose though, I'd pick the Motherland and the pros there, as I prefer long sessions, GFE and multiple positions/orgasms at a pace I determine. That said, some of the hottest women I've ever had were in German FKKs....
By the way, most of the pictures on the St.Pete salon sites are real... just photoshopped and taken under studio conditions. The girls will look more "natural" in real life... which isn't a bad thing. They take excellent care of themselves... often their bodies (skin, face. pussy etc.) are in better condition than an average normal girls would be.
[url]http://www.photomodeli.ru/[/url]
[QUOTE=Doctor_Skank]
Comparing FKK to the Motherland
FKK:
+ BBBJ standard
+ some girls speak English
- clock-watching
- sessions 20-30 minutes
- no pictures
- FKK atmosphere can never really be GFE
[/QUOTE]
I guess I'm just TOO old fashioned, having still avoided any FKK's or Salons, though I almost got my ass to the salon last month, and I definitely will try it next time.
But in my book, kissing some pro who's had 10 other dicks in her mouth bareback is NOT my thing. At least in the motherland, she may have only had 1 or two, or none at all. And speaking english is not a +, since I am not paying for conversation. Sure it can make things slightly more interesting, but i would certainly never pay for it or prefer it over a GFE.
So those positives are really not, to an old fashioned romantic type like the BEZ. And then the negatives completely seal it for me. No fotos is bad enough, but clock watching, especially for a 30 minute session just makes it intolerable. I'm no young buck stud fucker anymore, I gotta take my time.
So if an FKK atmosphere can never be a true GFE, and the only real true reason I go on these adventures is to get that GFE, then there is no point in going anywhere but the motherland, despite the cost and difficulties. As I say, since when was easier and cheaper EVER better.
[QUOTE=Bez Bezarra]I guess I'm just TOO old fashioned, having still avoided any FKK's or Salons, though I almost got my ass to the salon last month, and I definitely will try it next time.
But in my book, kissing some pro who's had 10 other dicks in her mouth bareback is NOT my thing. At least in the motherland, she may have only had 1 or two, or none at all. And speaking english is not a +, since I am not paying for conversation. Sure it can make things slightly more interesting, but i would certainly never pay for it or prefer it over a GFE.
So those positives are really not, to an old fashioned romantic type like the BEZ. And then the negatives completely seal it for me. No fotos is bad enough, but clock watching, especially for a 30 minute session just makes it intolerable. I'm no young buck stud fucker anymore, I gotta take my time.
So if an FKK atmosphere can never be a true GFE, and the only real true reason I go on these adventures is to get that GFE, then there is no point in going anywhere but the motherland, despite the cost and difficulties. As I say, since when was easier and cheaper EVER better.[/QUOTE]
Point taken Bez and I agree in principal.
BTW, as for kissing pros who suck dick for a living, that's the monger's fate. Girls in the motherland only have had 1 or 2? Keep dreaming... you really never know where she's been before.
Your points about no pics, non-GFE receptive atmosphere and clock-watching are the reasons I've traditionally avoided FKKs... but there are advantages to them as well. Ease of selection, good service and easy access can be good things... we are talking GERMANY after all and not our secret playgrounds in Russia and Ukraine. I certainly don't want to start banging teenage runaways down by the Hauptbahnhof in Berlin when I know where to find a clean and happy atmosphere with willing fuck bunnies in Frankfurt or the Ruhr.
Salons are essentially the Russian equivalent to FKK... with the minor differences I already mentioned. The major advantages are correlated with the fact that most salons will let you take the girls out for a 2 hour private session... the atmosphere is of course subsequently considerably more intimate and close to the kind of all-night service you get from tochka or pickup bars. For those who like banging a chick regularly, you can get their numbers for private work. I don't do this since I almost never bang the same pro twice... that's too much like having a girlfriend and I have plenty of those already.
But yeah Bez, you're right and the kind of "work" you are doing is the very core of the pioneer elite monger. True adventure can't be found in mass service joints like FKK or salons with their disgusting waste baskets full of cum-soaked tissues next to the bed... but good, easy sex with hot women can be found there... and sometimes that's the kind of pseudo-adventure that really hits the spot after a day's work... after all, many mongers (often including myself) don't have more than a few hours between a business dinner ending at 2330 and a business breakfast at 0930 to explore a city's seedy underworld... salons come in really handy on those nights.
If time allows, and thankfully it still occasionally does... true adventure beyond the confines of mass prostitution is really what turns my crank.
[QUOTE=Doctor_Skank]
In principal as for pros who suck dick for a living,
that Girls in the motherland only have had 1 or 2?
Keep dreaming...
[/QUOTE]
I meant maybe 1 or 2 THAT DAY!
As opposed to FKK's where its more likely 10.
And in the provinces, they aren't always so busy with customers, so it is possible to be their only date of the evening, and if you call them early enough, you might at least be the first of the night. With the kind of generous tipping I sometimes give them for all the extras, they may just tell the mamachka that they don't want anymore business for the night. Hopefully they don't get handed a beating for this decision.
[QUOTE=Bez Bezarra]I meant maybe 1 or 2 THAT DAY!
[/QUOTE]
So assuming the girls brush and floss their teeth every day, we shouldn't have too much of a problem :)
Who knows:
Where in St Petersburg is the approximate equivalent of Moscow's Nightflight and/or BoarHouse?
Skank?
If nothing has changed it is still Magrib, Nevsky pr. 84, (night club: 10p.m., cafe: 24 hours, restaurant: 24 hours ).
And at Magrib I saw the best looking girls of all Piter...
However the others more experienced maybe know others options.
Cheers.
Ash1001,
To my knowledge there is nothing like the Boarhouse in Petersburg. The Magrib, Marstalls and the Tribnal have all gone downhill, all 3 pretty much sucked on my last couple of trips.
Rossi’s is good for possible freebies most nights and superb on Thursdays for ladies night. You will see a few cute pro’s standing around.
Ladies night at the Red Lion are good on Tuesday.
I hear there is a new club called Decadence that is the hot new place next to the Fontanka Canal. Have not seen it yet.
IMHO the best part of the scene in Petersburg are the salons. Fair pricing with some exceptional quality to be found with a little searching.
Guido88
I am totally agree with Guido,
The salons are great, it's one year that i live in SPB and in every salons that i visit i always find one or two nice girl.
Photomodelli for me is the top!
They also tell me that the 2 best place in SPB now are : Decadence and Arena
Decadence in the week end is always full, but for enter they tell me that is convenient to be with some girl (like the famous disco in London, Madrid etc) or they not allow you to enter.
Luchino
[QUOTE=Guido88]Ash1001,
To my knowledge there is nothing like the Boarhouse in Petersburg. The Magrib, Marstalls and the Tribnal have all gone downhill, all 3 pretty much sucked on my last couple of trips.
Rossi’s is good for possible freebies most nights and superb on Thursdays for ladies night. You will see a few cute pro’s standing around.
Ladies night at the Red Lion are good on Tuesday.
I hear there is a new club called Decadence that is the hot new place next to the Fontanka Canal. Have not seen it yet.
IMHO the best part of the scene in Petersburg are the salons. Fair pricing with some exceptional quality to be found with a little searching.
Guido88[/QUOTE]
Lukasek, Guido and Luchino: info much appreciated.
I'll definitely try Magrib as I really just go for the disco/take out thing. I have yet to 'graduate' to salons. I guess you've got to be really unlucky for there not to be at least one hottie in such a place?
Prices in St Pete = Moscow - 20% ? :)
[QUOTE=Ash1001]Lukasek, Guido and Luchino: info much appreciated.
I'll definitely try Magrib as I really just go for the disco/take out thing. I have yet to 'graduate' to salons. I guess you've got to be really unlucky for there not to be at least one hottie in such a place?
Prices in St Pete = Moscow - 20% ? :)[/QUOTE]
Ash101:
I really think you should try the salons in addition to Magrib... they are by far the best thing in St.Pete and maybe even the best thing in all of Russia. As a testimony to this, when I am in Moscow for example I focus almost entirely on fucking freebies... in St.Pete I do most of my fucking with pros, mostly from the salons. Very high value in my opinion.
In terms of picklup bars, there isn't a Boarhouse/BF equivalent. As Guido said, Marstalls/Tribunal are lousy. Tribunal moved to the center by the way, but haven't seen any action there.
Magrib is still the best option in terms of pickup bars for pros... but can be frustrating. Often lots of eye candy to get you hot, but you'll soon discover that much of them are just locals out for some fun with their friends and most of the normal girls quite unapproachable... at least in terms of easy quick sex. Basically the only working girls these days are the ones sitting at the bar. There are actually two bars in the club (not the restaurant, NO action there!) ... the first bar is traditionally the ho bar. Still give it a shot though and be social. The girls will let you know soon enough if they are working. I really haven't enjoyed Magrib since about 2002. It's "almost" a normal night club now, and not a very good one at that.
By the way, if you go into the club and can't seem to find any girls and you haven't paid the entrance fee... then you aren't in the club yet... you are still in the restaurant. :)
As for salons, there are many... and if you aren't up to the challenge of finding one on your own yet, ask a taxi driver. May cost you an extra 500 rubles, but will be worth it. Quality much higher than the girls in Magrib, + more selection. The taxi drivers outside of Magrib are bandits, but they do know where the salons are and can take you there. Trust me. And agree on a price up front with the driver. There are salons literally 3 or 4 minutes WALKING distance away from Magrib, so even at bandit prices 300-500 rubles should do it with the Magrib cab mafia. Normal price would be 100 rubles for a short trip, but gypsy taxis may not know where to go... so you are better off taking a real taxi and then remembering where the salon is. I prefer fotomodeli salons.
If that still doesn't work for you, I can give you the number of a dark-haired English-speaking pro that I met in Magrib a while back... she's only OK looking, but friendly, has a nice soft curvy body and speaks English very well. You can also try any of the numerous websites/dating sites etc for additional contacts.
Prices in St.Pete:
Salon: $120/2 hours incall or outcall
Magrib: about $150/2-4 hours
As for clubs, the other guys were on the money. Decadance and Arena. Rossis is also good, especially Thursday as Guido said.
ASH1001
I agree with Doc. Take the walk and graduate to the salons. The quality can be outstanding. Do a salon in the afternoon, then look for other options at night.
The Magrib is pretty questionable. Most of us are going to have a hard time getting the $150 price Doc does. He has the advantage of being young, good-looking and fairly fluent. The little Brunette Doc mentions is both sweet and cute as I remember. Be a good idea to get her number.
Look for these 2 magazines at the newsstands. [url]http://www.randevu.su/[/url] [url]http://zdv.ru/[/url] These will give you access to many salons in town.
Thanks and credit to GandJim for posting the above links for the Magazines.
Good luck
Guido88
[QUOTE=Toptraveler1]Hi,
Thank you for your comments but do you really think that the picture of the girls you see in these internet sites are true?[/QUOTE]On our site you can see really girls. But they available only for shoots, not for escort.
If you interest shoots with russian porn star you can ask me about detail..
[QUOTE=GandJim]Don't know in USD as I always pay in roubles. In addition, with the decrease of the USD in the recent years, the price increase should be even more significant.
Presently, the going rate is about 2000 to 2500 RUR an hour in the majority of salons I know, with a couple at 3000 RUR. It was about 1500 RUR a few years ago.
Since February 2007 when I last checked their price for my next visit, Amsterdam, Babochka, Elis, Tsum, Golden Lotus for example have increased the hourly rate of some of their salons from 2000 RUR to 2500 RUR.
Jim[/QUOTE]On the other hand. The number of visits to Russia decreased from 7 million in 1997 to 2. 3 million in 2005. Maybe the internal (local customers) market is growing. Anyway, it is an interesting contradiction, or just Russian business logics.
[QUOTE=Guy #2]Yeah we do but we also want to know prices for each girls. I want to know the facts that provide the basis for how everything as executed. Erotic stories are nice but I am too old to fantasize. I need to do a cost analaysis and you never discuss the prices for each girls.[/QUOTE]
Instead of screaming and crying .... read his previous report. You will get all you need. He explained already everything about prices and health issues.
Catalyst is just what we all can call friendly a " lucky bastard" :) Without offense for him :) HE has the guts and the money to do what many men can only dream. Give him all the credits and keep dreaming ;)
TL
[QUOTE=Elena Exbi]I can say only what price form 150 to 500 for models. But I very many speak with peoples and some peoples want very different things. Somebody want just have hardcore with model (models), other anal, atm, creampie, dv, dp, gungbung with 5 man. Its real, but I'will mistake if say you what cost it, because I not know you requirement.[/QUOTE]
I can confirm that the prices Elena is quoting are accurate. If, like me, you don't want to pay 500 for a model there is a good selection of girls who don't charge the highest prices. As I indicated earlier I paid $4,000 for 7 shoots with 11 girls, including several gangbangs. That included all costs except my airfare, apartment, and meals. If you just want straight sex with one girl at a time you will pay less.
Lena,
I wouldn't send girls to Guy #2. He will be unhappy and complain. The girls won't like him. You will be unhappy. Everyone will be unhappy.
I’ve never been to Russia, but it’s high on my to-do list. I can get cheap plane tickets to Riga or Tallinn, and can travel by bus to SPB from there. So far, so good. Next was researching the P4P scene. I just finished reading the entire SPB section of the board...and I’m not exactly impressed.
Doctor Skank says the salons are by far the best thing in SPB and maybe even the best thing in all of Russia. Sounds great. But...
- The salons are very difficult to find, especially if you don’t speak a word of Russian.
- The girls generally don’t speak English.
And it gets worse...
- CBJs seem to be salon policy, although some punters report a 50/50 chance.
- DFK isn’t always on the menu either.
The Rus Dosug site, which is in English and offers extensive search possibilities, was a real eye opener.
- A basic search revealed 381 dyevs in SPB. Plenty of choice!
- How many of those allow pictures? 71/381 or 18,6%. For the record, I never fuck a girl without obtaining pictures first.
- How many provide BBBJ? 56/381 or 14,7%. I hate CBJs!
- Finally, how many girls will let you cum in their mouth? 4/381 or 1%. Strangely enough, none of those actually give BBBJs, so the number of girls providing BBBJCIM in SPB is a big fat zero!
[b]Those stats are simply appalling![/b] There are no stats about DFK, but I can’t imagine they would be very impressive either. And without DFK, there is absolutely no chance of a GFE.
What other P4P options are there? Independent escorts advertise on sites like Rus Dosug as well, so they probably don’t provide better service than the apartment girls. The pick-up bars used to be good, but basically suck these days. The hotel girls are expensive and often over the hill. The strip joints have rip-off prices.
Since SPB doesn’t seem to have quality service providers, I think I’ll give it a miss.
There is one interesting option, though. The Mix Photo porn stars! Kudos to Catalyst for realizing many a guy’s dream and posting the most amazing reports. I’m a monger/photographer and not into porn videos, but I’ll make some enquiries anyway.
Loso
[QUOTE=Loso69]I’ve never been to Russia, but it’s high on my to-do list. I can get cheap plane tickets to Riga or Tallinn, and can travel by bus to SPB from there. So far, so good. Next was researching the P4P scene. I just finished reading the entire SPB section of the board...and I’m not exactly impressed.
Doctor Skank says the salons are by far the best thing in SPB and maybe even the best thing in all of Russia. Sounds great. But...
- The salons are very difficult to find, especially if you don’t speak a word of Russian.
- The girls generally don’t speak English.
And it gets worse...
- CBJs seem to be salon policy, although some punters report a 50/50 chance.
- DFK isn’t always on the menu either.
The Rus Dosug site, which is in English and offers extensive search possibilities, was a real eye opener.
- A basic search revealed 381 dyevs in SPB. Plenty of choice!
- How many of those allow pictures? 71/381 or 18,6%. For the record, I never fuck a girl without obtaining pictures first.
- How many provide BBBJ? 56/381 or 14,7%. I hate CBJs!
- Finally, how many girls will let you cum in their mouth? 4/381 or 1%. Strangely enough, none of those actually give BBBJs, so the number of girls providing BBBJCIM in SPB is a big fat zero!
[b]Those stats are simply appalling![/b] There are no stats about DFK, but I can’t imagine they would be very impressive either. And without DFK, there is absolutely no chance of a GFE.
What other P4P options are there? Independent escorts advertise on sites like Rus Dosug as well, so they probably don’t provide better service than the apartment girls. The pick-up bars used to be good, but basically suck these days. The hotel girls are expensive and often over the hill. The strip joints have rip-off prices.
Since SPB doesn’t seem to have quality service providers, I think I’ll give it a miss.
There is one interesting option, though. The Mix Photo porn stars! Kudos to Catalyst for realizing many a guy’s dream and posting the most amazing reports. I’m a monger/photographer and not into porn videos, but I’ll make some enquiries anyway.
Loso[/QUOTE]
Loso, you've obviously read into St.Pete, your report is a pretty good summary of the way it is.
Truth is, as you reported, BBBJ, DFK, DATY and CIM are no longer standard... but actually hasn't been this way for several years now.
Just a rough guess, but I would estimate that the providers allow the above in following percentages:
BBBJ: 50%
DFK: 60%
DATY: 50%
CIM: 25%
That's not a scientific statistic, but more a "gut feeling". Much of what the girl will or will not do is based on whether or not she likes you or not... the vibe. RusDosug's stats are therefore to be seen as a "minimum" percentage.
Generally I have found that freelancers from bars are the most flexible in terms of what they'll do, however salons are the best value in terms of expense and relative beauty. They perform quite well in my opinion... and it's only $100/2 hours! Some of them are true knockouts.
Not speaking Russian is a disadvantage, but speaking is not a must. The salons get plenty of tourists coming in.
I also like all the things you mentioned, I like raunchy sex with CIM etc. I too wish ALL girls were into it, but they are not. I don't think this is just a St.Pete problem though.
Catalyst's reports clued us in to the MixPhoto scene, which sounds very interesting. It's a different price level, but also a "no holds barred" sex experience. If you have the cash and aren't camera shy, a great option. I personally prefer making "home videos", but may very well use MixPhoto on a future trip.
I think you're making a mistake by passing up St.Pete.
Doctor Skank,
From what I’ve read, you’re a handsome young man who speaks the lingo. If you can’t come up with decent stats, what chance have I got?
As you say that the performance depends on the chemistry between you and the girl, I gather you don’t interview them beforehand. I definitely would.
- Pictures are an absolute must! No pictures = No money. No exceptions!
- Without DFK, you might as well fuck a plastic doll.
- CBJs are another hallmark of totally insensitive and highly professional putas.
If a middle-aged foreigner who doesn’t speak a word of Russian walks into a salon, picks the hottest girl and asks her if she’ll agree to pictures, DFK & BBBJ, what are the chances of her answering “Da” to all 3 requests? And sticking to the deal!
The hot girls attract plenty of punters, even if they provide lousy service. Foreigners probably aren’t the most popular customers, especially if they don’t speak Russian. And if I start asking awkward questions...”Nyet” all the way, would be my guess.
Loso
For those of you that will be visiting SPB, I've attached a list of salons, compiled from Amur SPB... and transliterated!
Loso
[QUOTE=Loso69]Doctor Skank,
As you say that the performance depends on the chemistry between you and the girl, I gather you don’t interview them beforehand. I definitely would.
If a middle-aged foreigner who doesn’t speak a word of Russian walks into a salon, picks the hottest girl and asks her if she’ll agree to pictures, DFK & BBBJ, what are the chances of her answering “Da” to all 3 requests? And sticking to the deal!
The hot girls attract plenty of punters, even if they provide lousy service. Foreigners probably aren’t the most popular customers, especially if they don’t speak Russian. And if I start asking awkward questions...”Nyet” all the way, would be my guess.
Loso[/QUOTE]I have been a lot in St Peter, I am in the category "middle-aged foreigner who don't speak Russian". I have been with a lot of girls, so prefer if they speak English. Usually there are 1-2 in the salons who do. And sometimes it is surprising how much you can dommunicate witha girl who speaks almost no English if you take it easy and slowly.
I don't take pictures, I don't ask them beforehand what their services are. Except for the very hardcore, Russian girls are turned off if you start discussing this in advance. And they will refuse most of it.
I let things happen, and after a little foreplay from her I start playing with her: massage, DATY, etc. If this is done slowly and naturally, after a couple of DATY-induced orgasms for the girl. And most Russian don't care and don't give orgasms to the working girls. Then the girls are coming back to you with BBBJ, DFK (not usually CIM). And often an intense GFE.
But it is a hit an miss. Sometimes you are disappointed. But this works in 80% of the cases, at least for me. The performance depends greatly on the chemistry you develop.
But if you walk in with the camera and ask for CIM, photos, etc. You will have 99% "Njet".
[QUOTE=Loso69]Doctor Skank,
From what I’ve read, you’re a handsome young man who speaks the lingo. If you can’t come up with decent stats, what chance have I got?
As you say that the performance depends on the chemistry between you and the girl, I gather you don’t interview them beforehand. I definitely would.
- Pictures are an absolute must! No pictures = No money. No exceptions!
- Without DFK, you might as well fuck a plastic doll.
- CBJs are another hallmark of totally insensitive and highly professional putas.
If a middle-aged foreigner who doesn’t speak a word of Russian walks into a salon, picks the hottest girl and asks her if she’ll agree to pictures, DFK & BBBJ, what are the chances of her answering “Da” to all 3 requests? And sticking to the deal!
The hot girls attract plenty of punters, even if they provide lousy service. Foreigners probably aren’t the most popular customers, especially if they don’t speak Russian. And if I start asking awkward questions...”Nyet” all the way, would be my guess.
Loso[/QUOTE]
Please check Explorer69's recent post.
The stats I indicated by the way are my "guesstimation" of what a newbie going in cold could expect. YMMV.
[QUOTE=Explorer69]...Except for the very hardcore, Russian girls are turned off if you start discussing this in advance. And they will refuse most of it.
But if you walk in with the camera and ask for CIM, photos, etc. You will have 99% "Njet".[/QUOTE]
He's right, asking upfront (the interview) is likely not going to lead to satisfactory results, at least in terms of BBBJ and photos.
You don't really have much opportunity to interview as it were, it's not like a pickup bar, Therme or FKK where the girls lounge around. When you arrive the mamachka greats you and calls the girls in. When the lineup of girls is presented (a bit like an indoor tochka) you'll have 5-8 girls to choose from. They usually only stand there for 1-2 minutes. You can ask questions to the girls or mamachka, but you don't really have a chance to talk to them alone and make private negotiations. Asking for photos and BBBJ in front of everybody else is almost always going to yield a "no"... as most likely it's against salon policy or at the very least, she's not likely to admit that in front of the mamachka or other girls. Especially the new girls are unlikely to admit to doing anything "strange".
Sometimes you can get the mamachka to let you talk to the girls alone and ask about extras, but this isn't really standard... especially if you only speak English.
Still, you can probably get most of what you want. Russian girls in general love to kiss, love oral sex and generally love to fuck. So it doesn't take much to motivate a pro to employ her best female attributes. I always book outcall (go to my apartment) and am not really sure if incall changes the situation at all.
[QUOTE=Loso69]
- Without DFK, you might as well fuck a plastic doll.
Loso[/QUOTE]
DFK:
A friend of mine always asks the mamachka about which girls do DFK and usually gets the answer "up to the girl" at which point he asks to speak to the individual girl. When I have been with him, he usually has been allowed to... but he speaks Russian. Not every girl agreed up front in the salon, but most often though and in my experience as well, if you have a good vibe with the girl (not really that difficult) she'll DFK. When the girl didn't DFK with me, I almost always blame it on myself... and usually blame it on a lack of motivation on my part as sometimes I really could care less about DFK, especially if really tired. It also helps to book 2 hours instead of 1 so you have time to relax and give a massage, drink some booze, chat or whatever and get 2-3 fucks in. As Explorer69 correctly stated, there are no guarantees... but I don't think I've ever had a total dud from a salon.
[QUOTE=Loso69]
- Pictures are an absolute must! No pictures = No money. No exceptions!
Loso[/QUOTE]
Pictures:
I have pictures of the majority of salon girls I've been with. Their pictures appear on the websites and in the brochures from their salon anyway, so they aren't usually camera shy.... at least for lingerie or softporn shots. If you ask them up front, they usually say no... in practice however, they rarely care and many even enjoy it. Hardcore porn is definitely something that varies, but softporn pics are relatively easy to get.
If pictures are your main thing, have you ever considered "mixphoto" for a truly raunchy porn shoot or hiring a model for whatever type of pics you want to take?
DATY:
That truly depends on the girl, it's not standard.
[QUOTE=Loso69]
- CBJs are another hallmark of totally insensitive and highly professional putas.
Loso[/QUOTE]
BBBJ:
As stated above, it's not standard anymore... which doesn't mean it won't happen. You may consider CBJ insensitive or too professional, they consider it a way to stay healthy and in business. Most will do it... I believe presenting them with a clean, trimmed, good-looking cock helps the persuasion process. Like all guys, I agree with you that BBBJ is one of life'S great pleasures.
CIM:
Many of the girls who do BBBJ will ask you not to CIM or CIF. Especially avoid the hair! :)
Anal:
That truly depends on the girl, it's not standard. Most likely if she does, she'll charge extra.
Maybe it is all a bit too "iffy" for you since there are no guarantees, but if you like sexy white women, St.Pete is really one of the very best gigs around.
What's your usual stomping ground? Brazil? I know most Brazilians are into DFK and often do BBBJ, but do you usually negotiate things like DATY, CIM/CIF and porn pics etc. in advance as well?
Your polish tigress sometimes go to Warsaw?
Come and visit WAW, it's nearly half the price of SPB : 1 hour in salon is 100/150zl (26/40 euros), 1 hour in private is 150/300zl (40/80 euros). Top notch girls are not supposed to cost more than 400zl (400zl / 105 euros is nearly considered a scam in WAW) and I found very good ones for 200zl. I go to Warsaw cause I'm such a cheap monger (and I like polish girls!).
AlphaTester, as it was my failing to double check and get up your nose, apols, its just that Humsup came to mind as he had uploaded flyers I scanned in for the warsaw section.
Certainly it will be great for newbies plus thsoe who wish to explore every aspect of apartment and indie type encounters in warsaw.
Many thanks, your efforts are equally appreciated!!
Long live LOPA!!
Bois
Thanks for the feedback, Doctor Skank & Explorer69!
I’m still not convinced that I’ll like SPB, but Russia is the highest-ranked country still missing from my portfolio, so I’ll give it a try anyway. I’ll be visiting the Baltic states (3 more countries added, hopefully) and will spend 8 nights in SPB (Sep 5-Sep 12).
Just to clarify things. I’m more into glamour photography than porn. I don’t require naked pictures! Fully dressed pictures are fine, but they must show her face. Since pictures are a must, I always ask in advance. On the few occasions where I broke that rule, I ended up regretting it. I still have to work out my strategy, but it will probably involve showing her questions on my phone (in Russian). BTW, do you pay in advance in the salons?
I have no intention of walking around SPB carrying expensive photo gear. The salon girls will be invited to visit my apartment. In-call only salons are blacklisted. BTW, do the Elis salons offer out-call?
I travel all around the world. No business, just pleasure! In the termas in Rio, for example:
- I do ask in advance about pictures.
- I require DFK beforehand to even take a girl upstairs!
- I don’t ask about BBBJ. I’ve never had a CBJ in a Centro termas. The day that I do is the day I start asking.
Loso
Thank you very much for the list, I realy like this girl:
[url]http://www.amurspb.ru/?action=girl&do=one&id=903[/url]
Now, I don't understand russian, what's the cost for this girl? Are this the prices? What this does mean? I'm very pleased if you can translate this for me:
Цена за час: 2000
Цена за 2 часа: 3000
Цена за ночь: 10000
Thank you
[QUOTE=Loso69]For those of you that will be visiting SPB, I've attached a list of salons, compiled from Amur SPB. And transliterated!
Loso[/QUOTE]
Hello again Loso69, I finded a way to translate the prices with Altavista:
Price per hour: 2000
Price in 2 hours: 3000
Price for the night: 10000
I supose the prices are in rub, right? Now I have some more questions, the name of the girl is "Кира", how do I pronunce that? Do they understand english in this place? And very important: What's the exactly adress of AMURspb?
[url]http://www.amurspb.ru/?action=girl&do=one&id=903[/url]
I really hopes you can help me, thanks a lot.
/ Maxisol
Is where
[QUOTE=Loso69]For those of you that will be visiting SPB, I've attached a list of salons, compiled from Amur SPB... and transliterated!
Loso[/QUOTE]
Maxisol,
Kira works at the Kabare salon. The prices are in rubles and are correct. The address is Furshtadskaya 10; the closest metro station is Chernyshevskaya.
You can use this web site to transliterate Cyrillic script:
[url]http://www.vsemusic.ru/information/tools/transliter.php[/url]
I like this web site for translations:
[url]http://www.freetranslation.com[/url]
Loso
Thank you Loso69, you are gold. I hope Kira does the full service, she's such a beautiful girl!
I'm planing to go to SPT just for this girl. Hopes I can found her!
Thanks a lot
Maxisol
[quote]Maxisol,
Kira works at the Kabare salon. The prices are in rubles and are correct. The address is Furshtadskaya 10; the closest metro station is Chernyshevskaya.
You can use this web site to transliterate Cyrillic script:
[url]http://www.vsemusic.ru/information/tools/transliter.php[/url]
I like this web site for translations:
[url]http://www.freetranslation.com[/url]
Loso[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Maxisol]
I'm planing to go to SPT just for this girl.[/QUOTE]
I suppose you're just kidding but, just in case you're not:
1. Some salons in St-Pete post fake photos
2. Even if girl is real, photo could have been taken 3 years ago and/or be heavily "digitally enhanced" (Photoshop)
3. I don't think КАБАРЕ is a major salon (only 2 girls advertised). In fact, I've never heard of it before (and of course have never been there)
4. You need to speak Russian to call the salon and ask for the exact address, floor and apartment number
5. You need to read cyrillic to find the street
6. You need to speak Russian when you arrive to call them again to check address (sometimes they first give you address of building next to theirs or on other side of street), and to ask them to buzz you in or give you the code for the door
7. Even if the girl is real, no guarantee she'll be working that day
Think about it before booking your flight ticket.
Jim
Thank you for your advices GandJim, I wasn't kidding. I really like the girl a lot but I was also thinking that it was a microscophic posibility to really meet her. That places usually show fake pics of beautiful girls and I was thinking that this one maybe was too good to be true.
Thank you again. Very kind of you.
Maxisol
[QUOTE=GandJim]I suppose you're just kidding but, just in case you're not:
1. Some salons in St-Pete post fake photos
2. Even if girl is real, photo could have been taken 3 years ago and/or be heavily "digitally enhanced" (Photoshop)
3. I don't think КАБАРЕ is a major salon (only 2 girls advertised). In fact, I've never heard of it before (and of course have never been there)
4. You need to speak Russian to call the salon and ask for the exact address, floor and apartment number
5. You need to read cyrillic to find the street
6. You need to speak Russian when you arrive to call them again to check address (sometimes they first give you address of building next to theirs or on other side of street), and to ask them to buzz you in or give you the code for the door
7. Even if the girl is real, no guarantee she'll be working that day
Think about it before booking your flight ticket.
Jim[/QUOTE]
Guys
I have a choice of a week in St. Petersburg or a week in Rio in July next year (my work gigs fall on the same dates, so I cannot go to both places). I know it's a long time away, but in my line of work, I have to plan and lock-in these trips well in advance.
I've done my RTFF, and both cities would be great for the the hobby, but I cannot make my mind up. I'm leaning towards St. Pete, as it's a relatively short trip from Dubai (about 12 hours) Getting to Rio will be over 30 hours sleepless travel time (which just about killed me when I went to Costa Rica a few months ago - I spent the whole week shagging while jet-lagged).
On the other hand, I get the impression that in general, Rio girls are much more GFE than St. Pete girls.
I prefer picking up girls in bars/clubs for the night and having a bit of GFE. I rarely go for quick sessions in a salons/massage parlors/brothels.
So, any suggestions? St. Pete or Rio?
I'll only be working, and playing with the girls, so touristy sight-seeing is not a consideration in my decision. Travel and accommodation costs are not an issue, as they are paid by my company.
(I've posted this in both the Rio and St Pete threads in hope of some good advice).
[QUOTE=Piper1]Guys
I have a choice of a week in St. Petersburg or a week in Rio in July next year (my work gigs fall on the same dates, so I cannot go to both places). I know it's a long time away, but in my line of work, I have to plan and lock-in these trips well in advance.
I've done my RTFF, and both cities would be great for the the hobby, but I cannot make my mind up. I'm leaning towards St. Pete, as it's a relatively short trip from Dubai (about 12 hours) Getting to Rio will be over 30 hours sleepless travel time (which just about killed me when I went to Costa Rica a few months ago - I spent the whole week shagging while jet-lagged).
On the other hand, I get the impression that in general, Rio girls are much more GFE than St. Pete girls.
I prefer picking up girls in bars/clubs for the night and having a bit of GFE. I rarely go for quick sessions in a salons/massage parlors/brothels.
So, any suggestions? St. Pete or Rio?
I'll only be working, and playing with the girls, so touristy sight-seeing is not a consideration in my decision. Travel and accommodation costs are not an issue, as they are paid by my company.
(I've posted this in both the Rio and St Pete threads in hope of some good advice).[/QUOTE]
Piper:
I am like you on that... I much prefer going to a bar, checking out the scenery, drinking a drink or three for courage, approaching a few girls, checking the vibe and getting some touchy-feely before retiring for a night of debauched poking... followed by more drinking and poking before getting a couple hours of sleep and starting the whole process all over again.
This, however, is not a St.Pete specialty. If you want girls for a whole night and want to pick them up in bars or clubs, St.Pete really isn't the best. There are NO decent pickup bars in the city. Magrib, Tribunal, Marstalls... they all suck in one way or another. You WILL find pros there... invariably sitting at or standing next to the bar... however selection is limited and not particularly impressive. Certainly below that which you see strolling the streets every day. Price: about $150-200/night/3 hours.
There are supposedly pros in many other bars and clubs as well, but almost impossible to pick out from the other normal girls... at least I have NEVER met a pro in any other place, even though everybody claims they are there.
However, if you enjoy hot girls at affordable prices for a 2-hour session (in your hotel if you prefer) and can speak some very basic Russian to handle the negotiations, you can have a 7-9 for about $120/2 hours. This is a great option in my opinion and I get good GFE and pictures quite often... the only bad thing is that they leave after 2 hours. You can get the girls number and meet her privately if you wish... usually paying a little less than if you picked her up at the salon and in a more relaxed GFE fashion.
Another option is to meet girls on the internet dating sites (some speak English) and set up all night dates by chatting with them.... either for free or if you want to cut to the chase and avoid the dating game, you could negotiate to get a freelancer for $150-200/night or a pro for $200-250. If you only need 2 hours or so, it should cost about $100-150.
[QUOTE=Piper1]Guys
I have a choice of a week in St. Petersburg or a week in Rio in July next year (my work gigs fall on the same dates, so I cannot go to both places). I know it's a long time away, but in my line of work, I have to plan and lock-in these trips well in advance.
(I've posted this in both the Rio and St Pete threads in hope of some good advice).[/QUOTE]Unless you in particular love the Russian girls (I do), I am convinced that you should go to Rio. I really like St Pete, beautiful historic centre, great museums, beautiful girls, etc., but there are NO good pick up places, and in order to get "into the system" you need more than a week.
I have had many great visits in St Pete, had some fantastic girls, but it is after all always a hit and miss. If you decide to go to St Pete you should beforehand establish contact with several girls on the internet. But I don't think you can expect to pick up a girl every day for freebies... But maybe you are better than me?
And it is more expensive than in Rio. And St Pete don't have the beaches of Rio:)). So although I love the Slavic girls, i would rather go to Rio if I had a free choice:))
I seem to be in the same situation as Piper although the choice is St Petersburg or Prague. I have experience in both BA and the Ukraine with both incall escorts and clubs and enjoy the mix and I would really like to experience both cities but time does not allow. It has been years since I have been in either St P or Prague so not sure where to spend a week.
Comments comparing these two choices would be greatly appreciated.
Enjoy the life.
Fides
Hello there,
I'm still undecided as to where should I go at the end of September for a brief vacation; I would like to combine a nice european town which I haven't seen yet (St.Pete/Moscow, Berlin, Bratislava) or some town I haven't visited in a long time (Prague, Wien, Budapest, in this order) with some mongering, so I've checked this great site in the last few days.
As far as SPB is concerned, it looks like a marvellous city, but I guess I'd have language problems for the mongering, so I wanted to ask you if the site rusdosug.com is reliable (after all, it's in English and there are pics and descriptions, even though I guess most of them are fake).
Thanks for any help!
GM
Thanks for the info and advice guys. Now I'm leaning more towards Rio, for a few reasons:
1. Fellow Dubai member Tercar points out in the Rio thread there will be direct Emirates flights to Sao Paulo starting October - excellent!
2. As Tercar rightly points out, there's an endless supply of 'Russkies' in Dubai (there are probably more CIS working girls in Dubai than in the CIS!). For about US$136 (full night) I regularly enjoy beautiful and very GFE girls from Russia, Ukraine, Moldova, and many of the 'stani republics. For CIS, it's a fun bar scene in Dubai - no salons. Play a bit of pool with the girls, have a few drinks and laughs, then take them home for the night.
3. I was surprised to read the bar scene is not too good in St. Pete.
4. Rio seems to have more of a party atmosphere in general.
5. That time of year (July) it will be a mild winter in Rio - a nice escape from the stifling 110 heat and humidity of Dubai.
[QUOTE=Fides]I seem to be in the same situation as Piper although the choice is St Petersburg or Prague.[/QUOTE]
If, like Piper, you're after the bar/club scene, Prague is better than St-Pete. St-Pete is mainly a salon scene and don't forget that you need to speak Russian to go to most salons (and to read cyrillic to find the street where theyare).
Jim
I have a trip laid on for Nov to St Pete which will be my first trip there. Mind full of what Dr. Skank advises to include a sampling of internet girls thru dating sites I am looking for the best sites to accomplish this. I have checked out flirt and AFF. AFF doesn't have a good rep. Flirt seems to be OK except I can't seem to sort out the "I want husband" girls from the I wan fuck girls"
Any experiences that can help. I speak very rudimentry Russian so an English site is probably my only option
It has been many years since I have been to Rio, but I certainly felt it was over-rated when I went there. Mind you, I was young and inexperienced then, but still the experience fell far short of expectations.
I see in the Rio forum that the HELP disco is still the main pick-up spot, as it was then. A real meat shop, but lots of eager young semi-pros looking to make a few bucks. Of course the girls are beautiful enough, but now I am hooked on the Slavic types.
The biggest downer for me was the constant strain of trying to avoid being ripped off - by the girls, by the taxi drivers, by kids on the street - it never ends. I found that very tiring, and sucked the joy out of my trip.
I was threatened by one girl in the morning because I wasn't offering her enough money (prices were not always agreed at time of pick-up, it was more informal than that, I guess to preserve the self-delusion that they were not prostitutes). I could not evaluate her threat, so I kept a chair against the door handle the next night, which cramped my style. I was assaulted another night by a knife-wielding idiot in circumstances that I should have been safe in. Girl-militia rip-off teams were common-place.
In May the beaches were cool and underpopulated. No "girls from Ipanmema"! St. Petersburg in mini-skirt season wil have more eye-candy. That said, you might be able to get more "white god" factor out of Rio, buying drinks and small treats for impoverished chicas. At that time, you could sit outside the Help disco and have a beer or two before going in. So many girls would hang out there, hoping to get picked up before having to pony up the entrance fee. One of the great regrets of my life was not pouncing on a table of these girls, who were scooped up by some weak-chinned Brit. For me this would have been a better evening than going inside to hunt in the noisy disco, and having to dance!!
I know you are not expecting to hunt for freebies, but at least in St. P you can pretend to play that game. But if you are used to paying $136 for an all-night, all-you-can-eat Slavonic buffet in Dubai it sounds like you would have a hard time beating that price in ST. P. At the same time, when I was in Rio, it was not particularly cheap, but I guess that depends on the proximity to the last economic collapse or currency re-valuation.
[QUOTE=Piper1]
2. As Tercar rightly points out, there's an endless supply of 'Russkies' in Dubai (there are probably more CIS working girls in Dubai than in the CIS!). For about US$136 (full night) I regularly enjoy beautiful and very GFE girls from Russia, Ukraine, Moldova, and many of the 'stani republics. For CIS, it's a fun bar scene in Dubai - no salons. Play a bit of pool with the girls, have a few drinks and laughs, then take them home for the night.[/QUOTE]
Remember the words of many moral philosphers...
"If you are tired of Russian pussy, you are tired of life..."
[QUOTE=Gentleman Travel]I St. Petersburg in mini-skirt season wil have more eye-candy.[/QUOTE]I have been in SPB in July for one week and I must say that I was pretty disappointed about the eye-candy-factor. Most girls there you see in the street are not very attractive, quite short, overweight, with ugly faces wearing jeans and sneakers.
If you are really into the eye-candy mini-skirt high-heel model-type you should go to the south. Go to Ukraine. Kiev or Odessa. Nice to watch but also hard to score.
This is a tough one.
Rio only looks good in photos. There are condos along the beaches and every apartment owner has a dog that is walked on the beach so there is sh*t everywhere. The water is not safe for swimming because of ripp currents - people drown all the time. So the beaches are not a draw. The place is dirty, the poverty is more evident.
On the positive side, the people are fun loving and enjoy music. The pace is casual. The girls are more GFE. For $100-$150/night you can have a nicer hotel room in Rio. I think the easiest way to pick up a girl is to go to a bar.
They could be non-pro, semi-pro, or just fun-loving girls.
There is much, much more to do in St. Petersburg and the food is better. If you can pay ~$400/night , then you cannot beat the 3-4 top quality hotels in St. Peterburg. If you wear a business suit and have polished shoes, etc., it is easy to pick up a (non-pro) girl on the street in St. Peterburg. All you have to do is maintain eye contact and flirt a little. Find a pair and invite them for a glass of wine. They will decide after some socializing which one will stay the night. It is also easy to pick up a store clerk or hotel employee and the advantage is they would speak some English.
Unlike Rio, all the hotels have girls that work for them but they are expensive. They will knock on your door at night and the hotel bars are loaded with them. They will not cheat you because they know they will get in trouble if you complain to the security people (they actually work for the security people.) Every taxi cab driver - in fact everyone - is literate so you can always communicate with a note (in Russian). Cyrillic letters are no so hard but you have to do a little homework before going. The Metro (subway) is easy after one or two trips.
This is a real tough one. If it were me, I guess I would pick St. Petersburg but that is probably because I am a history buff. But I have had a lot of fun in Rio.
My experiences in St. Petersburg have been somewhat different than Firewalkwithme’s. I found the woman in St. Petersburg to be as good looking as the women in Moscow or Nizhni Novogorad, or Archangel.
Also, how can you beat St. Petersburg during White Nights for things to do.
There are standing jokes and stories about whether Russian or Ukrainian women are better looking. I have been with both and really do not know the answer. I personally prefer Ukrainian women because I think they are more feminine, if that is possible! But I have seen a lot of dogs in Ukraine also. I have also seen a lot of dogs in Rio.
But let me point out, women from Belarus are also extremely good looking as a group and I found it very easy to pick up a woman in Minsk. Belarus is also not so commercial because it remains similar to the old-style Soviet state.
[QUOTE=Firewalkwithme]I have been in SPB in July for one week and I must say that I was pretty disappointed about the eye-candy-factor. Most girls there you see in the street are not very attractive, quite short, overweight, with ugly faces wearing jeans and sneakers.
If you are really into the eye-candy mini-skirt high-heel model-type you should go to the south. Go to Ukraine. Kiev or Odessa. Nice to watch but also hard to score.[/QUOTE]
Which St.Petersburg did you go to?
I must have missed the short, ugly overweight girls when I've been there... maybe you were just looking at the tourists walking up and down Nevsky?
Try going to an upscale club and tell me again its not full of models.
As for the south, you are right... the streets are full of super hotties in mini-skirts in the summer... of which many are from Moscow and St.Pete on holiday.
since piper1 posted his questions on the rio board and i read some of the responses there, i decided to take a quick peek in here and see what you guys had to say. after reading some of the “facts” provided here on rio, i decided to correct a few glaring misconceptions, for those that are interested and possibly for piper1, so he can read them here. right off the bat, i have never been to st. petersburg, but i am considering taking a trip there later this year while i am in europe. if anyone is offended by me posting here without any information on spb, i apologize. i hope that with my standing on this board, i will be forgiven.
as to my credentials, i am frequent poster on the rio and several brazil boards, and i have several reports of distinction there, and in colombia as well. i have also reported on el salvador, dr, mexico, and venezuela. as to rio specifically, let me say that i lived there on and off for a total of nine months over four separate trips, i spent some time studying there, i speak fluent portuguese, so i feel qualified enough to provide some factual corrections.
[quote=gentleman travel]i see in the rio forum that the help disco is still the main pick-up spot, as it was then. a real meat shop, but lots of eager young semi-pros looking to make a few bucks. of course the girls are beautiful enough, but now i am hooked on the slavic types.[/quote]
just in recent months on the rio board, we had quite a number of reports on very offbeat spots, such as vila mimosa. help disco is still popular, yes, but more and more mongers are discovering places away from copacabana, especially (just like i did starting in 2004). many of these reports are in reports of distinction. the bubba guide always provides a very comprehensive overview of the many different options available in rio.
preferences as to looks are obviously that, preferences, but one of the main draws to rio for me is the wide variety of looks available, from blonds, brunettes, pitch-black hair, every skin color from pasty white to deepest black, and some indian and possibly asian features thrown in for good measure. not to say that the slavic type is not attractive, of course not.
i disagree that help disco attracts "lots of eager young semi-pros looking to make a few bucks". it attracts hardcore hookers whose dream client is an unexperienced foreigner without any portuguese that they can easily overcharge, and then some. but of course, granted, i don't know when you went to rio... which year? i first went there in 2002, and things were exactly the way they are now.
[quote=gentleman travel]the biggest downer for me was the constant strain of trying to avoid being ripped off - by the girls, by the taxi drivers, by kids on the street - it never ends. i found that very tiring, and sucked the joy out of my trip. [/quote]
ripoffs happen in rio, yes, just like anywhere else, but with a bit of experience and in-depth research, many can easily be avoided, whether in restaurants, cabs, on the beach, etc. i have traveled extensively in latin-america and i live in mexico, you know, and i wouldn’t say that rio is necessarily worse than anywhere else in that respect. these ripoff attempts and scams are also most common in the area around help, another reason not to be spending a whole lot of time there.
[quote=gentleman travel]i was threatened by one girl in the morning because i wasn't offering her enough money (prices were not always agreed at time of pick-up, it was more informal than that, i guess to preserve the self-delusion that they were not prostitutes). i could not evaluate her threat, so i kept a chair against the door handle the next night, which cramped my style. i was assaulted another night by a knife-wielding idiot in circumstances that i should have been safe in. girl-militia rip-off teams were common-place. [/quote]
always negotiate prices and services beforehand is a common advice we have given to anyone in rio. ripoff teams, like for threesomes, is problematic in rio, yes, and that’s why it is advisable to never take more than one to your apartment, ever. only to love motels, nowhere else. you can't take more than one into your companion-friendly hotel, anyway (the hotels know why).
as to the circumstances where you "should have been safe in", i guess the only thing that matters is that you weren't and didn't know. probably more than anyone, i have reported on security and crime matters in rio over the past three years, and there's an extension section on that matter in the bubba guide, too (which includes a lengthy post by, you guessed it, moi).
[quote=gentleman travel]in may the beaches were cool and underpopulated. no "girls from ipanema"! [/quote]
cool in may? compared to the 40+ c during carnaval months maybe, but cool? but why there are always girls on the beach, i have to agree with you, not as many as one would expect based on postcards and stuff.
[quote=gentleman travel]that said, you might be able to get more "white god" factor out of rio, buying drinks and small treats for impoverished chicas. at that time, you could sit outside the help disco and have a beer or two before going in. so many girls would hang out there, hoping to get picked up before having to pony up the entrance fee. one of the great regrets of my life was not pouncing on a table of these girls, who were scooped up by some weak-chinned brit. [/quote]
to tell you the truth, in copacabana, you need zero game for the girls, zero. imho, nobody is impressed by anyone being white, they see so many tourists all the time, anyway. and the girls hanging out in or in front of help or in other bars along the same lines (meia pataca, balcony) are anything less than impoverished, but simply hardcore hookers preying on newbie tourists.
the place in front of help is now called veranda help and still exists. there are still hundreds of girls there trying to pick up clients, and yes, some are still hoping to get taken inside, too, possibly. about your regrets of not hanging with some girls there, well, what can i say… what was the problem with just going over there or getting them over to your table? they are all hookers, anyway. no decent carioca woman would want to be seen within 100 yards of that whole area.
[quote=gentleman travel]for me this would have been a better evening than going inside to hunt in the noisy disco, and having to dance!! [/quote]
hunt? help is a self-service candy store, you just pick who you want. you certainly don’t have to dance to pick someone. i sure never did, and not only because the first time i went, i was on crutches (which, btw, did not prevent me from getting laid, so again, zero game required. the only game you need is cash).
[quote=gentleman travel]i know you are not expecting to hunt for freebies, but at least in st. p you can pretend to play that game. but if you are used to paying $136 for an all-night, all-you-can-eat slavonic buffet in dubai it sounds like you would have a hard time beating that price in st. p. at the same time, when i was in rio, it was not particularly cheap, but i guess that depends on the proximity to the last economic collapse or currency re-valuation. [/quote]
rio is no longer as cheap as it used to be, mostly because of the tanking dollar. but then again, when the r$ was at parity with the usd, it was even more expensive, so things aren’t all that bad, while certainly not as good as in 2004 or 2005.
[quote=dapa man]
rio only looks good in photos. there are condos along the beaches and every apartment owner has a dog that is walked on the beach so there is sh*t everywhere. the water is not safe for swimming because of ripp currents - people drown all the time. so the beaches are not a draw. the place is dirty, the poverty is more evident.[/quote]
the areas where tourists are likely to stay, i.e. copacabana and ipanema, look just like in the pictures to me. as to the water is not safe for swimming, true, and nobody should go to rio for taking dips in the water, but honestly, that's pretty common knowledge, every tour book says that. as to the statement that this wouldn't make the beach a draw, ufffffffffffffffffffffffffffff. i just posted a long report about the cultural significance of the beach in brazil and rio in particular in the rio section. if rio's beach life is not a draw for someone, honestly, don't go. seriously.
is there poverty in rio? yes, appallingly so… in areas where you should never tread. as to general cleanliness, well, it’s a tropical country, what more can i say.
[quote=dapa man] i think the easiest way to pick up a girl is to go to a bar.
they could be non-pro, semi-pro, or just fun-loving girls.[/quote]
rio has hundreds of options to get girls, from termas to escort agencies, the copacabana cafes, cheap centro brothels, vila mimosa. all of them very easy. and as i said in my reply to gt, the girls hanging out in or in front of help or in other bars along the same lines (meia pataca, balcony) in copacabana are nothing but simply hardcore chicks on the lookout for bushytailed tourists, certainly not semipros or girls just looking for fun. no way.
[quote=dapa man] there is much, much more to do in st. petersburg and the food is better. [/quote]
i just posted a report in the rio section listing some of the more common entertainment options and activities that are available in rio, and even though i haven’t been to spb, i seriously doubt that it could compete with rio's variety (or that many cities actually could, for that matter). food is obviously a matter of taste, but have you ever been to a rodizio in rio? an all-you-can eat restaurant where they offer you about 20 types of meat, a huge salad bar, sushi bar, chinese food, cheeses, deserts, you name it?
thanks for letting me post here, and if nothing else, if someone would be nice enough to perhaps post reponses in terms of how these things are shaping up in spb, it would be helpful for me to during my upcoming trip. i will be doing my homework regardless.
and of course, if anyone is interested in going to rio and requires specific information, i am always willing to help. just pm me.
cheers,
ea
let me say a few words about el austriaco's comments. i do not want to seem too negative since i have always had a lot of fun in rio and for me it is somewhat of a toss up between the two cities.
as for the beaches, i believe i am correct. i could not walk in the sand because of the sh*t but i did spend a lot of time sitting in the outdoor cafes watching the great looking women in their swimming suits. i remember a young couple at a table near mine that changed an infant’s [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord132][CodeWord132][/url] right at the table and then threw the dirty [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord132][CodeWord132][/url] on the ground under the table. that kind of exemplifies the attitude people have toward cleanliness.
i did see something there i have never seen anywhere else. skimpily clad hags in their 60’s and 70’s being escorted by 20-year old body builders in their early 20’s. i assume this was the guys’ way of escaping poverty. they really earned what money they made for what they had to do in bed.
walking back to my hotel in the afternoon, i saw a drunk passed out on the street with a stream of [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord109][CodeWord109][/url] running across the sidewalk from his cock, which was hanging out. i never saw anything like that in st. petersburg.
i took the cable to the top of sugarloaf but could not really enjoy the wonderful view because of the smell. the kiosks sold some sort of snack made from fried cheese. these rotten half-eaten snacks where everywhere. the trashcans had not been emptied in a long time and were totally full. i took a taxi to the top of the hill having the famous statue, i think it is called christ of corcovado. the ride took me by some of the most depressing shanty towns of squatters i have ever seen.
i maintain rio is only beautiful in photos. on the other hand the people are great and it is the people that make a place enjoyable anyway.
[QUOTE=Doctor_Skank]Which St.Petersburg did you go to?
I must have missed the short, ugly overweight girls when I've been there... maybe you were just looking at the tourists walking up and down Nevsky?
Try going to an upscale club and tell me again its not full of models.
As for the south, you are right... the streets are full of super hotties in mini-skirts in the summer... of which many are from Moscow and St.Pete on holiday.[/QUOTE]Right. Haven't been to many clubs there. At least not the elite ones. But spent most of my time walking through the streets and despite the great summer weather the skirt-ratio was pretty low. Had been told before that the girls of SPB shall be the most beautiful. So that set the expectations high. For my taste Ukraine is a 100 times better. Can't say about Moscow.
Anyway. Had a great time in SPB during white nights. So I can recommend anyone to go and see it. It's a beautiful town.
[QUOTE=Firewalkwithme]Right. Haven't been to many clubs there. At least not the elite ones. But spent most of my time walking through the streets and despite the great summer weather the skirt-ratio was pretty low. Had been told before that the girls of SPB shall be the most beautiful. So that set the expectations high. For my taste Ukraine is a 100 times better. Can't say about Moscow.
Anyway. Had a great time in SPB during white nights. So I can recommend anyone to go and see it. It's a beautiful town.[/QUOTE]
FWWM:
I honestly believe you had some bad luck, as St.Pete women really are among the best I've seen and have spent plenty of time in both Russia and Ukraine and not only in the capital cities.
I'll agree with you 100% that Ukraine offers at least the same quality though, perhaps the question of "which is better" is just a matter of taste. I like both... but give the edge to Russian women because I like their personalities better. I find Russian women to be more honest and have more "dusha" (soul) than their Ukrainian sisters... whereas Ukrainian women do well on physical beauty and what I would call "hominess".
Could also be that Ukrainian women are more into displaying their goods these days. Regrettably jeans have replaced the miniskirt as choice of wear in Russia... sure you'll still see plenty of miniskirts, but the days were all women wore miniskirts to show off their legs are history... at least in Moscow/St.Pete. In the south and Ukraine, particularly the Black Sea coast, it seems that every women wears a miniskirt. Makes one happy to be a man... :) Going to good clubs in either country will reveal more eye candy than you'll believe possible. I was recently at the opening of a new yacht club in St.Pete and even my Moscow friends were stunned. They said they'd never seen so many beautiful girls in one place... and the girls had culture and style too. Was amazing.
One point regarding St.Pete in July:
1) there really are a lot of tourists there for the White Nights... especially on Nevsky, alot of the girls you'll see aren't even from St.Pete, many of the locals avoid the center like the plague to avoid the crowds during that season, especially during the day. They only go there if they have to. If you go to the top clubs (there are several good clubs now) that cater to the upwardly mobile, you'll find plenty of babes.
I also enjoyed White Nights in St.Pete. Especially if you get some sleep during the day, going out at night is great. It isn't my favorite season for mongering though, believe it or not I prefer the winter, despite the cold.
I like to go to the South in the summer and gaze at those long legs and tight butts in miniskirts that you mentioned.. :)
[QUOTE=El Austriaco]I disagree that Help disco attracts "lots of eager young semi-pros looking to make a few bucks". It attracts hardcore hookers whose dream client is an unexperienced foreigner without any Portuguese that they can easily overcharge, and then some. But of course, granted, I don't know when you went to Rio... which year? I first went there in 2002, and things were exactly the way they are now.[/QUOTE]
I defer to your more extensive and more recent knowledge.
I posted mainly because Piper and I have chatted and share some values, so I thought my views might be of useful to him, even if the info was dated.
By semi-pros I meant office girls and students, etc.
They were certainly all for sale, just not all were hardcore hookers.
Obviously it has long since changed and I am not surprised.
[QUOTE=El Austriaco]Always negotiate prices and services beforehand is a common advice we have given to anyone in Rio. [/QUOTE]
I agree in principle, but these girls did not want to talk about that at the front end. I don't know if it was part of the pretense of not really being a hooker, or whether they thought they could soak you for more in the morning.
But it was a problem and an added stress.
[QUOTE=El Austriaco]As to the circumstances where you "should have been safe in", I guess the only thing that matters is that you weren't and didn't know.[/QUOTE]
This is the thing that pissed me off most. It was almost like a random act of violence, and that is very hard to protect yourself against. Thoughtful and deliberate attacks you can prepare for - stupid and arbitrary attacks you cannot!
[QUOTE=El Austriaco]To tell you the truth, in Copacabana, you need zero game for the girls, ZERO. IMHO, nobody is impressed by anyone being white, they see so many tourists all the time, anyway. And the girls hanging out in or in front of Help or in other bars along the same lines (Meia Pataca, Balcony) are anything less than impoverished, but simply hardcore hookers preying on newbie tourists.
EA[/QUOTE]
I didn't really mean white. I just meant being a "Big Man in the Bar." Buying drinks and flirting with the ladies as you make your choice. One of the endearing things when I was there, was that these girls wanted to show off to their friends that they had bagged a man for the night. So there was a little bit of buying drinks and cigarettes for the other girls. Harmless fun and maybe a good investment if you are trying to create a GFE, but a waste of time and money if you are with a hardcore pro.
I didn't really mean to crap all over Rio, but it had always been a fantasy of mine, and the actual experience was somewhat disappointing. Whereas Russia and Ukraine have exceeded my expectations and I hold out hopes for even better experiences as I learn the game.
[QUOTE=Doctor_Skank]I honestly believe you had some bad luck, as St.Pete women really are among the best I've seen and have spent plenty of time in both Russia and Ukraine and not only in the capital cities.[/QUOTE]Hi Doc, as you are a senior here and I see your reports on all kinds of Eastern European boards I must simply trust your expertise. ;-) Maybe it was just bad luck but I think I have passed by hundreds and hundreds of woman (not only in Newskij) there and only very very few made me turn my head. On Khreshatik it's a different story and on Deribasovskaja... whooosh!! Awesome.
[QUOTE=Doctor_Skank]I'll agree with you 100% that Ukraine offers at least the same quality though, perhaps the question of "which is better" is just a matter of taste. I like both... but give the edge to Russian women because I like their personalities better. I find Russian women to be more honest and have more "dusha" (soul) than their Ukrainian sisters... whereas Ukrainian women do well on physical beauty and what I would call "hominess".[/QUOTE]I think you are right here. Ukrainian women are more bitchy than their Russians counterparts. It's always unfair to generalize but from my experiences I wouldn't trust a girl from Ukraine unless I got to know her really really well. Their greed/need for money corrupted their moral totally.
[QUOTE=Doctor_Skank]Going to good clubs in either country will reveal more eye candy than you'll believe possible. I was recently at the opening of a new yacht club in St.Pete and even my Moscow friends were stunned. They said they'd never seen so many beautiful girls in one place... and the girls had culture and style too. Was amazing.[/Quote]Damn! You should have called me! Yacht club opening sounds like a lot of fun. But then, most imporatant is always who do you know and whom you are introduced to. In Peter we only went to Datscha, Red Club, Marstalls... not the best places to go when you want to meet some hotties.
Wasn't my last time in Pieter for sure. BTW I did meet one nice girl there ;-) And the culture of that place is stunning.
Great info. What is the name in Russian for Pharmatex pill? по-русский язики
Never mind, just googled it, it is фарматекс
:)
". Before the shoots most girls will insert a Pharmatex tablet (available at any pharmacy, and the girls will expect you to provide it) for birth control and to protect against gonorrhea and Chlamydia. Apparently most of the girls don’t use the pill because it has to be taken everyday and they either don’t want to bother or recognize that they aren’t disciplined enough to remember it every day. "
[QUOTE=Gentleman Travel]I defer to your more extensive and more recent knowledge.
I posted mainly because Piper and I have chatted and share some values, so I thought my views might be of useful to him, even if the info was dated.
[/QUOTE]GT - yes, your views were useful to me. (Same values - you mean we are both very naughty ;)). In the end I'd like to enjoy both places eventually. How lucky we are to have the choice. :)
History
How unexpected can life be? While I was posting a few months ago in the Moscow forum that I was going to Moscow, I ended up in Saint-Petersburg for three days (and two nights). So what to do? Internet connection is still old fashioned modem-style (at least at my place) so I was glad I did most preparation before I left, i.e. which sites are worth to visit so I can make optimal use of my limited bandwidth.
According to some posts SPB seems to have an active salon scene though it can be very hard to find the salons at all. So once in SPB I decided to concentrate on salons and indivudualkas (girls who work for themselves). It was not possible to get in touch with normal girls in that short time. Here are my two cents…
Preparation
I first tried to get in touch with some normal girls on [url]www.flirt.ru[/url] (aka [url]www.love.mail.ru[/url] and many other names…). But it also lists working girls. You can recognize them by a purple line around their photos. However for p4p this site is a drag. It uses lots of old photos from omen.ru, many from other (porn) sites with their watermarks still present, many scanned from magazines, and some even with the playboy logo still on it. Lots of references to non-existing sites, lots of references to traffic measuring sites. Some photos contained a shooting date of decades back, even some back to the 70’s with their orange-and-brown decoration. About 90% fake, I estimate. It is salted with megatons of spam pictures that lead to web sites telling Russian men how to give females an orgasm or how to run an Internet casino.
About the normal girls, I wrote about 50 (in one night) but got no response, so either their English is zero or no-one is interested (anymore) in meeting a foreigner with some cash to spend.
And with 66,000+ entries in SPB, this site rotated quicker than I could browse forward.
Total waste of time.
Lodging
To avoid problems with bringing girls I rented a medium sized apartment at Italyanskaya, close to Nevski Prospekt. It had a quiet and cosy backyard location which made it perfect for my needs.
In SPB
While in Saint-Petersburg I used [url]www.kica.ru[/url]. This seems to be a more upscale site with some real beauties on it. It is more expensive too. Prices start at 3000 rubles per hour and some even 4000 or 5000 for one hour. I tried Maya ([url]http://www.kica.ru/categories.php?cat_id=102[/url]). She looks as on the photos, but more important: she spoke perfect English so communication wasn’t a problem. She came to my place. Her service was standard (CBJ, few positions, no anal). She cost 6000 rubles for two hours. Nice, though a little expensive, and no GFE.
The second site I tried was [url]www.kisski.ru[/url]. This site seems to have a “fair chance” policy for all girls because every time you press the “back” button of your browser to Kisski’s main page, the sequence of the girls is different, as well as their photos. This becomes a real nightmare when you browse back because you remembered a girl. Her main photo and location on the web page is different then. This site lists 30-40 girls and has no search capabilities nor does it list the services the girls provide. Prices start at 2000 – 3000 rubles per hour. Here I tried Sofia ([url]http://www.kisski.ru/categories.php?cat_id=148[/url]). In reality she looked a little more overweighed and was certainly older than the 20 years she claimed. I guess these girls take pictures when they are still young and beautiful and use them for the remainder of their professional career. Her service was slightly better than Maya but still a little too professional according to my taste.
I also tried to find one or two salons but none of the operators I got on the phone spoke decent English. They tried to explain me the directions but it ended in a disaster while I was standing on Nevski trying to figure out what they were telling me while the traffic noise of cars racing up and down the Neveski prospekt reached sound levels that went way beyond the sound level that could be produced by my old Nokia. On a certain moment I understood that I was on the wrong side of Nevski, however crossing the street is equivalent to suicide and the nearest underground pedestrian crossing was at least 500 meters away. I had to make a 1 km walk for just 50 meters of street crossing. I just gave up. Maybe next time…
Concluding
Unfortunately I had too little time to prepare my visit. I was told to go to SPB earlier than expected, arranged a business visa for me within 48 hours and was literally thrown into the plane to have discussions with some weird guy who stank, obviously wasn’t sober and kept complaining using the only English sentence he knew: “too little money”. Exploring SPB on you own when you hardly speak any Russian is a real challenge (I only can say a few sentences like “kak dela?” and use machine translation for email and chat.). However I still think that Piter can be a good place to get laid when I had more time to prepare and more time to be there. It isn’t the quality, it’s all about finding your way in Russia at all.
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G-Nome
No doubt the salons can be a bittch to find.
This is where cab drivers come in handy. Hop into one and say “Hichu Devushka” and they will take you to one of the many salons you were close to. They get a cut from the salon of what you spend.
Price wise you managed to find the most expensive in town. 6000 rubles for 2 hours is too much. I think the two sites you listed may have been linked, noticed a couple of the same girls advertised on both.
Other option get the two magazines Gandjim posted links for then call and have the girls come to you. Expect to have to make a few calls before you find passable English or call back later and you may have better results. You should be able to get 2 hours for 3,000-4000 rubles. Tell them what you prefer; frequently they will send a couple of girls and you can choose.
Here is a good link to start with.
[url]www.spb.s09.ru[/url]
Guido88
[QUOTE=Garden Gnome]History
I first tried to get in touch with some normal girls on [url]www.flirt.ru[/url] (aka [url]www.love.mail.ru[/url] and many other names…). ..
About the normal girls, I wrote about 50 (in one night) but got no response, so either their English is zero or no-one is interested (anymore) in meeting a foreigner with some cash to spend.
And with 66,000+ entries in SPB, this site rotated quicker than I could browse forward.
Total waste of time.
[/QUOTE]
I agree that chasing local girls for freebie action can sometimes be a waste of time, nerves, energy and money, especially if you are only in town for 2-3 days. Nonetheless, it can also be a lot of fun and your ticket to sexual nirvana, particularly when you are staying a bit longer in town, at least 5-7 days. Luck is a factor in this of course, but so is communication.
There is a service that helps in communication issues you may want to try out:
[url]www.datinghelponline.net[/url]
I haven't used it myself, but for those unaccustomed to online dating po-russky... it could be a real boon.
[QUOTE=Garden Gnome]History
In SPB
While in Saint-Petersburg I used [url]www.kica.ru[/url]. This seems to be a more upscale site with some real beauties on it. It is more expensive too. Prices start at 3000 rubles per hour and some even 4000 or 5000 for one hour. I tried Maya ([url]http://www.kica.ru/categories.php?cat_id=102[/url]). She looks as on the photos, but more important: she spoke perfect English so communication wasn’t a problem. She came to my place. Her service was standard (CBJ, few positions, no anal). She cost 6000 rubles for two hours. Nice, though a little expensive, and no GFE.[/quote]Yesterday after reading this post I called Maya, at the phone she speaks normal english, she receive in Nab. Fontanki, in a small mini-hotel.
I don't know why but the photo that appears in the web site don't correspond to the person who receive me. She have a nice face but the body is totally negative, small tits, fat leg ecc.
Also she was also cold in the practice, so after 20 minutes I decided to live. I will never came back.
Anyway she told me that in this mini-hotel work always 7-8 girls so probably when I arrived maya are not available and they give me this girl.
Ciao
I have my plane ticket (to Tallinn). My passport has been embellished by a Russian visa. When I arrive on Wednesday, mamochka Lana will be waiting for me at an apartment with a Jacuzzi and a mirror above the bed. :) Talent Manager Elena is busy arranging shoots with Mix Photo porn stars. Since they'll insist I capture the action on video, I bought myself a digital camcorder this afternoon. In preparation for my director’s debut, I’ve been practicing the magic words: “Action” and “Cut!” :)
A steady stream of Mix Photo girls will be visiting my apartment. But I do intend to supplement my diet with salon girls. I understand Russian girls do not appreciate KGB-style interrogations. :) I’ll try and be more subtle...
Anyway, I’ll be in SPB from September 5 until September 13 (8 nights). If anyone wants to meet up, let me know.
Loso
Loso -- can't wait to see the Mix Photo pics! ;)
Which girl ID's did you choose?
I'm going to Russia in September, and wonder if someone has some experience with
Diana ([url]http://www.rusdosug.com/indi8828.htm[/url]).
Anya ([url]http://www.rusdosug.com/indi7389.htm[/url])
or Polina ([url]http://www.rusdosug.com/indi5284.htm[/url])
In St. Petersburg?
Hope someone out there can share their experience with one or both of these girls. Or maybe you know someone in the area close to Metro “Lomonosovskaya” you can recommend?
Hope someone can help.
My confirmed SPB apartment reservations were cancelled yesterday. Today, I wasted the entire day trying to secure new reservations. Elena (from Mix Photo) helped me a lot.
I will take the bus from Tallinn tomorrow morning and should be in SPB early evening. Since I don't have a shoot planned for tomorrow, I may give Oslo71's girls a ring. You have good taste, dude!
My first shoot the day after tomorrow will be with Sveta 333, one of Catalyst's favorites and top of my list.
Loso
Hope you will write a review of the girls i mentioned before the weekend is over. I will be leaving on Monday.
[QUOTE=Oslo71]Hope you will write a review of the girls i mentioned before the weekend is over. I will be leaving on Monday.[/QUOTE]
Actually YOU should be writing the review after you've tried them out.... :)
I especially like Polina... but have seen her picture on a Kiev website before. Could be fake, or perhaps the Kiev site just stole her pics...:)
By the way, the price seem high.
A comparison:
Photomodeli salons:
1 hour: 2000-2500 rubels
2 hours: 3000-4000 rubels
[url]http://www.photomodeli.ru/html_girl_info.php?g_id=572[/url]
Rusdosug (your link):
1 hour: 3400 rubels
2 hours: 5250 rubels
Oslo71,
Polina works at the Amsterdam Park Bodedy salon:
[url]http://www.intimspb.ru/anketa.php?id=260&photo=1[/url]
Diana works at the Diadema salon:
[url]http://www.amurspb.ru/?action=girl&do=one&id=708[/url]
There are 5 girls with the same phone number as Anya. A fellow monger who speaks Russian called her number yesterday and asked to speak to Katya, who allows pictures. She came to the phone, but she wasn't working and seemed annoyed that we disturbed her.
[url]http://www.rusdosug.com/indi7390.htm[/url]
Loso
[QUOTE=Loso69]Oslo71,
Polina works at the Amsterdam Park Bodedy salon:
[url]http://www.intimspb.ru/anketa.php?id=260&photo=1[/url]
Diana works at the Diadema salon:
[url]http://www.amurspb.ru/?action=girl&do=one&id=708[/url]
There are 5 girls with the same phone number as Anya. A fellow monger who speaks Russian called her number yesterday and asked to speak to Katya, who allows pictures. She came to the phone, but she wasn't working and seemed annoyed that we disturbed her.
[url]http://www.rusdosug.com/indi7390.htm[/url]
Loso[/QUOTE]
Something's fishy, and I hope it's not Polly's box... :)
Since RusDosug is charging 1400 rubles more for one hour with Polina (or 500 if 2 hours taken) at same location than intimspb... looks like RusDosug is just some sort of "agent" collecting commision for nothing.
In any case, somebody must fuck Polly. The madness must stop!
BTW Loso, how's life as a porn star treating you? :)
[QUOTE=Doctor_Skank]Since RusDosug is charging 1400 rubles more for one hour with Polina (or 500 if 2 hours taken) at same location than intimspb... looks like RusDosug is just some sort of "agent" collecting commision for nothing.[/QUOTE]
Not sure your math is right, 99 USD per hour is about 2500 RUB (against 2000 RUB from intimspb direct). Maybe they just anticipate the continuing decline of the USD? ;)
Anyway, I don't think RusDosug is collecting commission. How would they? They give the direct phone number of intimspb and even gave a link to intimspb website, so you can contact intimspb directly. Price from salons are sometimes higher when quoted in USD. I was in St-Pete last week and called Domino and Sharm (salons with English speaking phone number). They all gave me a price in USD which is higher than what is mentionned on their website. Worse, just for joking, I asked "and in Euros?". Answer is "same amount as in USD".
In other salons I visited, they sometimes also gave me a price in USD when they saw that I'm a foreigner speaking broken Russian and, when I objected that it's not the price mentionned on the web, a few said: "that's old price, new price this month" :D, but most said "you can paid in roubles too", and don't see where is the problem.
Jim
[QUOTE=GandJim]Not sure your math is right, 99 USD per hour is about 2500 RUB (against 2000 RUB from intimspb direct). Maybe they just anticipate the continuing decline of the USD? ;)
Anyway, I don't think RusDosug is collecting commission. How would they? They give the direct phone number of intimspb and even gave a link to intimspb website, so you can contact intimspb directly. Price from salons are sometimes higher when quoted in USD. I was in St-Pete last week and called Domino and Sharm (salons with English speaking phone number). They all gave me a price in USD which is higher than what is mentionned on their website. Worse, just for joking, I asked "and in Euros?". Answer is "same amount as in USD".
In other salons I visited, they sometimes also gave me a price in USD when they saw that I'm a foreigner speaking broken Russian and, when I objected that it's not the price mentionned on the web, a few said: "that's old price, new price this month" :D, but most said "you can paid in roubles too", and don't see where is the problem.
Jim[/QUOTE]
It's showing up as 99 EURO (3400) were I am as the site was in German, I guess it's ISP linked.... I switched to English and voila... $99... strange.
Also I dont see how they could collect commission unless they effected pay up front. I think you are right though, you'll most likely just pay the salon rate when you get there.
In any case, still somebody has to fuck her!
BTW, I always pay in rubles.
So no one has had the pleasure to fuck Polly, or Polina?
[QUOTE=Doctor_Skank]BTW Loso, how's life as a porn star treating you? :)[/QUOTE]
Luba Love paid me a visit today. After taking 100+ pictures, Luba gave me a BBBJCIM in the Jacuzzi. As we watched the video together, we started kissing again and ended up fucking on the sofa… without the camera running! :eek: When I suggested we move to the bedroom, she lubed up her ass. :) Round 3 started on another sofa and ended with a BBBJCIF on the bed. I’d run out of tape by then. :( And Luba was late for a birthday party.
I keep getting the camera angles wrong. I forget to switch the bloody thing on. I run out of tape. The life of an inexperienced porn star…it’s a drag. :D
Loso
[QUOTE=Oslo71]So no one has had the pleasure to fuck Polly, or Polina?[/QUOTE]
Well it looks like you are going to have to be the one to pop her cherry... :)
[QUOTE=Loso69]Luba Love paid me a visit today. After taking 100+ pictures, Luba gave me a BBBJCIM in the Jacuzzi. As we watched the video together, we started kissing again and ended up fucking on the sofa… without the camera running! :eek: When I suggested we move to the bedroom, she lubed up her ass. :) Round 3 started on another sofa and ended with a BBBJCIF on the bed. I’d run out of tape by then. :( And Luba was late for a birthday party.
I keep getting the camera angles wrong. I forget to switch the bloody thing on. I run out of tape. The life of an inexperienced porn star…it’s a drag. :D
Loso[/QUOTE]
Sounds cool... and don't seat the details, live and learn. I have some pretty mediocre tape as well, main problem being lighting and angles. I assume from your post you elected to go without the camera/photo team?
[QUOTE=Doctor_Skank]Sounds cool... and don't sweat the details, live and learn. I have some pretty mediocre tape as well, main problem being lighting and angles. I assume from your post you elected to go without the camera/photo team?[/QUOTE]
Just me and the models. No other guys around! I wouldn't mind a camera[u]woman[/u], though. :)
The videos aren't that important. I'm a photographer and the pictures look great!
Loso
[QUOTE=Loso69]Just me and the models. No other guys around! I wouldn't mind a camera[u]woman[/u], though. :)
The videos aren't that important. I'm a photographer and the pictures look great!
Loso[/QUOTE]It seems you have a lotta fun Loso. :) I envy you. You have access to the two most important ingredients to have fun in Piter: Beautiful dyevs and $$$$ Maybe you should consider to use a monitor (where you can watch yourself) and a remotly operated camera so that you can zoom in on the action. But on the other hand, that's not what you are there for :) isn't it?
[QUOTE=Doctor_Skank]Something's fishy, and I hope it's not Polly's box... :)
Since RusDosug is charging 1400 rubles more for one hour with Polina (or 500 if 2 hours taken) at same location than intimspb... looks like RusDosug is just some sort of "agent" collecting commision for nothing.
In any case, somebody must fuck Polly. The madness must stop!
BTW Loso, how's life as a porn star treating you? :)[/QUOTE]Hmmm, I remember I saw that photo already on many other places and quite some time ago. If she's real, I wonder whether she still looks as advertised.
Seems like nobody will get to fuck the Polly in the pictures. :(
Today’s Mix Photo model was Oxana 479, who looked way more beautiful than her mug shots on the site. A true beauty, a real sweetie and a perfect GFE.
I fucked up the handheld BBBJ scene when I accidentally hit the zoom button and couldn’t figure out what happened. But I got the cum shot! :) And the sex scenes (with tripod) look a lot better than yesterday. I’ll get a job with Steven Spielberg yet! :)
BTW, my camera does have a remote control, which I’ve never used. Just holding the camera while the girl is blowing you detracts from the fun. I just put my camera on the tripod, consider the angles and do what I usually do.
Loso
Just introducing my self.
I too am thinking of going to St. Petersburg, after New Years.
How much do you think I should be paying, being new to all this?
Read the pages in the forum and don't expect to be "spoon fed" - do your "homework" - all the information is here
[QUOTE=James02]Just introducing my self.
I too am thinking of going to St. Petersburg, after New Years.
How much do you think I should be paying, being new to all this?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Luchino]Yesterday after reading this post I called Maya, at the phone she speaks normal english, she receive in Nab. Fontanki, in a small mini-hotel.
I don't know why but the photo that appears in the web site don't correspond to the person who receive me. She have a nice face but the body is totally negative, small tits, fat leg ecc.
Also she was also cold in the practice, so after 20 minutes I decided to live. I will never came back.
Anyway she told me that in this mini-hotel work always 7-8 girls so probably when I arrived maya are not available and they give me this girl.
Ciao[/QUOTE]Luchino,
I'm sorry that you had a lesser experience.
Reading your post I suspect that at least two girls are/were hiding behind this photo. It sometimes happens that the mamochka does not show you the real girl, but someone else who looks (a little) like on the photo. This can be caused that the real girl isn't available, has left or just doesn't want.
My Maya did not do incalls, she only did outcalls. So I think you had someone different.
GG.
[QUOTE=Garden Gnome]Luchino,
I'm sorry that you had a lesser experience.
Reading your post I suspect that at least two girls are/were hiding behind this photo. It sometimes happens that the mamochka does not show you the real girl, but someone else who looks (a little) like on the photo. This can be caused that the real girl isn't available, has left or just doesn't want.
My Maya did not do incalls, she only did outcalls. So I think you had someone different.
GG.[/QUOTE]
Hi Garden, probably you are right. I just report my experience with the telephone number that you posted.
Anyway just few experience that I had in the last 2 week:
There is a great mini-hotel where they work 5 or 6 girl indipendent near Vosstanya. Every girl had her private number, all the flat are in great great condition, with shower, one of theme also have a small suana.
Janna: she is my love. In the photos don't respect her beauty.
[url]http://forum.amurspb.ru/index.php? Showtopic=21230&pid=177856&mode=threaded&show=&st=&#entry177856[/url]
I spend a lot of time with her. She doesn't speak english. But the service was one of the best that I find in Piter. 2000 roub for 1 hour all positive feedback! Trust me you should try her!
[url]http://janna-intim.narod.ru/[/url]
She had her web site but today don't work.
Anna
[url]http://anna0201.narod.ru/[/url]
Try 2 days ago, same place. Now she have blonde hair, she is more tiny compared to the photos, anal is possible with extra charge.
2000 roubl 1 hour
Nice sex with also a normal massage. Also to try!
Finally in the week end I was I Photomodelli in Marata and went with Anya.
[url]http://www.photomodeli.ru/html_girl_info.php?g_id=535[/url]
She looks as the photo. A little photoshop but not so much. Great nice BJ! And a session of 1 hour for 2500 roub. The service not like the 2 that I described up but was OK!
Have a nice week end to all!
Hi,
Actually I am going back and forth between Nikolaev (Ukraine) and Germany, but I want to go to SPb during Christmas time this year.
I know SPb very well, lived there for about 3 years in summary during 1997-2005.
My last visit was in 2005, so I want to check it again.
To go there during July-August is not a good idea, because all the students are on the dachas.
During christmas time, which is almost non-existant, there are a lot of cultural performances, lik exceptional opera/ballet/symphonic music.
So any other having plans for Peter?
[QUOTE=Loso69]Today’s Mix Photo model was Oxana 479, who looked way more beautiful than her mug shots on the site. A true beauty, a real sweetie and a perfect GFE.
Loso[/QUOTE]As I'm hopefully going to SPB next summer and had also planned to get in contact with the Mixphoto agency, I'm eagerly awaiting more of Loso69 reports about his experiences with the models.
Great job so far. Are you also planning in posting pics like Catalyst did?
Hi Luchino,
Where do I find more info on Janna? My Russian is terrible, so a direct link would be great. Or maybe her phone number?
Thanks
[QUOTE=Oslo71]Hi Luchino,
Where do I find more info on Janna? My Russian is terrible, so a direct link would be great. Or maybe her phone number?
Thanks[/QUOTE][url]http://forum.amurspb.ru/index.php?showtopic=21230[/url]
There you find the number and the photos!
[QUOTE=Firebird]Read the pages in the forum and don't expect to be "spoon fed" - do your "homework" - all the information is here[/QUOTE]I have now read part of this thread, and it appears that the going rate in SPB is not much different then western Europe.
Hum
All this talk with in the media about poverty in Russia, and the stories of paying a bottle of vodka and some candy to a lass at the train/bus station don’t seam to match up
So much for the 10 quid all nighters then
Did anyone ever try this agency?
[url]http://www.petersburgescort.com[/url]
Please let me know.
SeaHarrier
[QUOTE=James02]I have now read part of this thread, and it appears that the going rate in SPB is not much different then western Europe.
Hum
All this talk with in the media about poverty in Russia, and the stories of paying a bottle of vodka and some candy to a lass at the train/bus station don’t seam to match up
So much for the 10 quid all nighters then[/QUOTE]
That hasn't been that way since about 1996... even if the vodka/candy metaphor is an exaggeration. Pretty much any media report about social conditions/trends/life in Russia, whether positive or negative, is totally off-base.
[QUOTE=Seaharrier]Did anyone ever try this agency?
[url]http://www.petersburgescort.com[/url]
Please let me know.
SeaHarrier[/QUOTE]Looking at the prices of that, appears to be very expensive.
Anyone know of a cheaper place to go, living in the UK.
i have been visiting the st-pete’s salons for some years, and have been back there again last month. this time, i visited over 30 salons (not having a session in each though). the quality of girls has decreased compared with the previous years, so i sometimes had to hit 3-4 salons before finding a girl to my liking.
as the price has gone up, i also tried the cheaper individual girls advertising on the web and in magazines, but it was not a good idea. some do not answer the phone and when they do, it’s not the right girl or it took too much time to find them. some others are in fact working in salons. so i went back to salons. salons have been already discussed in this forum, mainly photomodeli, but there are much more options in st-pete so i think an update could be useful to newcomers.
[b]1. [u]the salon scene[/u][/b]
salons are brothels run in apartments in residential buildings. nothing differentiates them from other apartments (not even a name on a doorbell) so it’s a little bit complicated to find them.
usually [b]you need to speak russian[/b] to call them to get their street address. sometimes they’ll find somebody who can speak english if you don’t, but most of the time they will just hang up on you. a few salons have a special number where english speaking staff answer the phone (domino and sharm).
be aware that a building can have several entries, and sometimes they give you the address of the building next to theirs, or of the one on the other side of the street. once you arrive, you need to call them again to get the code for entering the building, the floor and apartment number. i usually ask them to come down and get me. so don’t send your taxi away when you arrive as you may not find the salon, and have a mobile phone with you (there are public phones in the street in case you don’t, but don’t forget to take the phone number with you).
be aware that location of salons and phone numbers can change randomly, so check by phone before walking back to a salon you visited last year.
depending on the salon, you can have a line-up of 2-3 to more than 10 girls. a session of one hour is about 2500-3000 rubles nowadays. price are sometimes quoted also in usd or euros, but they are more expensive than in rubles. always pay in rubles. you can also take the girl back to your apartment.
[b]2. [u]where to stay[/u][/b]
you will need to walk a lot if you intend to raid the salons. i always rent an apartment where there are many salons around in walking distance. to choose the location of the apartment, you can check where the salons are on a map (especially if you’re interested in a particular salon), like [url=http://www.isaw-db.com/map_spb.html]here[/url].
then you need to find a reliable apartment agency. i use [url=http://www.oksanas.net/]oksana’s[/url]. they offer excellent services at a reasonable price, take care of visa registration and also buy a sim card for my phone. many of their apartments have high-speed wifi internet connection. you may browse this forum for other apartment agencies.
[b]3. [u]salons with website[/u][/b]
here is a list of salons with website. it may sound surprising, but many girls advertised by the salons are real (although “photoshopped”). however, the websites are not updated regularly and some may no longer be there so, if you like a certain girl, ask in advance if she’s still there.
the main ones are (in alphabetical order):
[url=http://www.intimspb.ru/][b]amsterdam[/b][/url]: 5-6 salons. there is a daily planning of which girl is working and in which salon [url=http://www.intimspb.ru/forum/viewforum.php?f=26]here[/url].
[url=http://www.sexbabochka.ru/][b]babochka[/b][/url]: 3-4 salons, some not mentionned on website.
[url=http://www.dominogirls.org][b]domino[/b][/url]. about 10 salons. they have more salons than what is mentionned on their website and special english speaking phone numbers (812-715.18.03 and 812-921 77 81). they also have other sites [url]http://www.dominogirls.info[/url] and [url]http://www.spbfei.ru[/url].
[url=http://www.elis-spb.ru][b]elis[/b][/url]: more than 10 salons. they have the largest number of salons in st-pete, more than photomodeli.
[url=http://www.fabrikagrez.spb.ru/][b] fabrika grez[/b][/url]: 1 salon away from center, but low price.
[url=http://www.fantaziyalove.ru][b]fantaziyalove[/b][/url]: 2-3 salons (one just closed….). telephonist speaks little english.
[url=http://www.formulaoflove.ru/][b]formula of love[/b][/url]: 2-3 salons.
[url=http://www.golden-lotus.ru/][b]golden lotus[/b][/url]: 1 salon. telephonist speaks little english.
[url=http://www.highlife.spb.ru][b]high life[/b][/url]: 2-3 salons (one closed earlier this year).
[url=http://www.kurtizantki.com/][b]kurtizantki[/b][/url]: 1 salon.
[url=http://escortspb.ru/eng/mercedeski][b]mercedes[/b][/url]: they are an escort agency, but do have an apartment on dobrolyiubova prospekt.
[url=http://www.spbnimfetki.ru/][b]nimfetki[/b][/url]: 4-5 salons.
[url=http://www.photomodeli.ru][b]photomodeli[/b][/url]: about 10 salons. mentionned many times in this forum. exact address of salons are mentionned on website. maybe i’m unlucky, but i rarely had good session here. i recommend you to go to the “light” ones rather than the high-end ones, where you pay more for decoration than for the girl.
[url=http://www.bestrusmodel.com/][b]platinum girls[/b][/url]: they are an escort agency, but it seems that you can meet with some of their girls in their apartment. never tried.
[url=http://www.sexmission.ru][b]sex mission[/b][/url]: 3-4 salons.
[url=http://www.tsumlove.ru][b]tsum[/b][/url]: 3-4 salons. exact address of salons are mentionned on website.
[url=http://www.vip-models.ru/][b]vip-models[/b][/url]: 4-5 salons.
there are many other salons worth visiting, which do not have a website (or maybe they do, but i don’t know it). some advertise and have photos of their girls on [url=http://amurspb.ru/?action=salon]amurspb[/url], [url=http://www.sexspb.ru/salons/]sexspb[/url] and [url=http://www.pro-models.ru/?action=salon]pro-models[/url]. one salon worth mentionning is sharm, which has a special english speaking phone number (812-970.05.66).
[b]4. [u]magazines[/u][/b]
a good source of information are the sex magazines, where salons and individual girls advertise. when visiting a salon or a girl, i always take a copy of the magazine with me to show them the girl i’m interested in. more easy to walk away if she’s not there (or not real), without having to give any explanation. as mentionned above, many of the salon girls are real, but i can’t say the same for individual girls. you’re lucky if you find one out of 5 and that’s why i finally went back to the salons.
here are the ones i usually look at. i’ve put a link to a scan of their cover so you can see how they looks like and located them in a magazine’s booth, as well as a scan of some pages inside to give you an idea of their contents.
[b]pro-models[/b]: september issue has 54 pages, most concerning salons with only a few pages for individuals. it’s a good source for salons which don’t have a website.
[url=http://www.isaw-db.com/images/pro-models01.jpg]cover page[/url], [url=http://www.isaw-db.com/images/pro-models02.jpg]table of contents[/url] (list of salons featured in magazine), [url=http://www.isaw-db.com/images/pro-models03.jpg]salon girls 1[/url] (bestia), [url=http://www.isaw-db.com/images/pro-models04.jpg]salon girls 2[/url] (venera), [url=http://www.isaw-db.com/images/pro-models05.jpg]salon girls 3[/url] (vip).
[b]otdyx[/b]: august issue has 112 pages mostly concerning individual girls, although some girls listed as individuals are in fact working in salons.
[url=http://www.isaw-db.com/images/otdyx01.jpg]cover page[/url], [url=http://www.isaw-db.com/images/otdyx02.jpg]individuals[/url], [url=http://www.isaw-db.com/images/otdyx03.jpg]individuals/salon[/url].
[b]randevu[/b]: august issue has 132 pages, with a equal mix of advertising from salons and from individuals.
[url=http://www.isaw-db.com/images/randevu01.jpg]cover page[/url], [url=http://www.isaw-db.com/images/randevu04.jpg]salon girls[/url] (blood), [url=http://www.isaw-db.com/images/randevu02.jpg]individuals[/url].
[b]znakomstva dlya vsex[/b]: august issue has 100 pages concerning salons as well as individuals.
[url=http://www.isaw-db.com/images/znakomstva01.jpg]cover page[/url], [url=http://www.isaw-db.com/images/znakomstva02.jpg]salon girls[/url] (sharm), [url=http://www.isaw-db.com/images/znakomstva03.jpg]individuals[/url].
some salons have their own dedictated magazine. for some reasons, price is not mentionned therein, but you can find them on their website:
[b]elis[/b]: i didn’t managed to put my hands on a copy on this trip, so the cover page image is a tiny image from their website.
[url=http://www.isaw-db.com/images/vip-escort01.jpg]cover page[/url].
[b]photomodeli[/b]: august issue has 146 pages with girls from their salon only (over 100 girls). they have high quality photos, but often actual girls aren’t so nice.
[url=http://www.isaw-db.com/images/photomodeli01.jpg]cover page[/url], [url=http://www.isaw-db.com/images/photomodeli02.jpg]salon girls 1[/url], [url=http://www.isaw-db.com/images/photomodeli03.jpg]salon girls 2[/url].
[b]vip-models[/b]: august issue has 66 pages, mainly girls of their salon with a few pages for individuals.
[url=http://www.isaw-db.com/images/vip-models01.jpg]cover page[/url], [url=http://www.isaw-db.com/images/vip-models02.jpg]salon girls[/url], [url=http://www.isaw-db.com/images/vip-models03.jpg]individuals[/url].
[b]5. [u]forums[/u][/b]
there are several forums which discuss salons in st-petersburg. they are only in russian, but provide good information. exact address of salons are sometimes mentionned therein. the one i visit regularly is [url]http://forum.amurspb.ru/[/url]. some salons have their own forum on their website.
in summary, the st-pete’s salon scene is no longer what it was. it’s getting more expensive and girls are no longer as stunning as a few years ago. services are also declining, it’s difficult to get dfk, bbbj and daty nowadays. still, it’s a good alternative to moscow if you like russian girls, and choice is there.
jim
ps: i no longer go to pick-up bars and stripclubs so have no information thereon, but it has never been a great scene. i prefer mongering in the afternoon and evening, less risk for being targeted by militia and skin-heads. ;)
Awesome detailed report on the St. Pbg scene.
Many thanks.
Thanks Jim !!!
Very useful report, great work !
Have fun
[QUOTE=GandJim]Services are also declining, it’s difficult to get DFK, BBBJ and DATY nowadays.[/QUOTE]
Great overview of the salon scene in SPB! Would you care to post statistics for the above services?
Loso
I recently visited St. Pete on business, meaning I had little spare time. One night I got lucky in the Lobby of the Hotel Angleterre (next to the Astoria, both Hotels are connected).
Well past midnight there was only one girl waiting for clients - the next day I noticed her together with two other chicks sitting around.
She called herself Valeria (as far as I remember) from Nowgorod. She is about 1,65 - 1,70, very slim max 45, kg, Breast cup A, very long thin black hair. She was dressed in a sexy short dress, nice nylons and high heels - just the way I like it. Her asking price was RUB 10.000 or equivalent is $ or €. Expensive, but I had no alternative and was pretty horny :-).
She said the price would be for "longterm" - I later found out that for her it meant about 1,5 hours only. However, the 90 minutes with her were a blast and I could not have done more, even if I had wanted to.
I can summarize this night as follows: It was not me who "did her", NO, she did me !!! She almost always decided what we would do and she got her way. I first shot my load on her nice breast. Then I received a massage with lotion (she later mentioned, that this would normally cost extra), we kissed a lot (she told me at the end, she normally wouldn't !) I licked her pussy until she decided it was enough and then we fucked in various positions. She even claimed that she got an Orgasmn, which she did not have for several weeks - true or not, she was HOT ! 90 minutes sex in High Gear with an absolutely stunning young woman (I think she said 23). If you happen to see hear, be careful, she's gonna kill you ! (At least that's what she told me, while we were "at it :-) "
Nice report.
I will try few salons that I have never heard before.
Last week I was in Maximus (strip clup) near Nevsky.
45 girls working there (85% soo amazing). They comes to you and ask tips every 5 minutes: ((they accept only tips from 100 roubles) if you offer a drink to them they seat with you but you should prepare to pay 800 roubles for the cocktail.
There is 2 private room just for private dance (one with jacuzzi), they charge 1. 500 roubles (5/10 minutes) no sex.
All the girls are avaible to have sex in your apartament or in you hotel for "only" 23. 000 roubles. Night session.
I said to some of them that the price are ridicolus to SPB they explain that they are the most beautiful girls in Piter (I agree with that. ))
Anyway it's a good place to have some drink with your friends and watch (only watch unfotunatly) this amazing girls.
The rate for me is absolutley out of mind!
Hein,
Glad you had a fun trip, but you need to negotiate better. 10,000 rubles for a piece of ass in Piter is ridicules. You paid too much in Moscow as well.
Your expenditure for 1.5 hours could have bought you a all night with one of the many salon girls available for delivery or you could have gone to a club and gotten 2 girls for that price for a few hours.
Being horny is an affliction we all suffer from but is a poor excuse to pay more than the going rate.
Letting her dictate the terms of the session is simply not the way things are done in Russia.
My guess would be this is your 1st trip and you were overwhelmed by the quality available. Next time enjoy more and pay less. Study up on the board and get much better value for your money.
Guido88
[QUOTE=Guido88]
My guess would be this is your 1st trip and you were overwhelmed by the quality available. Next time enjoy more and pay less. Study up on the board and get much better value for your money.
Guido88[/QUOTE]I was aware that I overpaid - still I felt I got VERY good value for my money. Sure it was my first time and my options (time and locations) were limited. Enjoyed both girls in Moscow and St. Pete a lot and Russian Woman are now certainly very high on my list :-)
Hein,
No doubt the Russian Devs are top of my list as well, we are in agreement there.
Prices have risen so fast in Moscow and somewhat in Piter. I hate to see anyone encourage the trend. I have yet to meet a monger in favor of paying the higher prices.
As to value what you got may be a very good value compared to your options at home. In my home area prime pie runs $500-2000 an hour, that’s a crime.
But imagine the value at 1/3 to 1/2 the price you paid in Russia for the same Russian experience. I have done sessions from $47-75 an hour with gorgeous 18-20 year olds, that’s good value.
The cool thing about Russia is the wide range of options and gorgeous sexual women. Perhaps on your next trip you can schedule in more time to explore.
No harm no foul, by now no doubt you are hooked on the FSU females. Just try not to spoil them too much.
Guido88 aka: The cheap bastard
GandJim, thanks for your greatly informative post on Salons.
Can you elaborate on your statement "less chance of getting targeted by militia and skinheads". Are there real safety concerts like this?
Seems like there is a squize from both the law and the out law.
How do you minimize the risks?
Thanks Again.
Please reply if anybody can provide detailed info about St. Pete bars and stripclubs scene (especially stripclubs). Will visit St. Pete for long time business purposes.
Come on - don't be lazy. Read the forum. All the information is here. Do your "homework"
[QUOTE=Master Sergeant]Please reply if anybody can provide detailed info about St. Pete bars and stripclubs scene (especially stripclubs). Will visit St. Pete for long time business purposes.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Al Gonkin]
Can you elaborate on your statement "less chance of getting targeted by militia and skinheads". Are there real safety concerts like this?[/QUOTE]
Basically, the militia can stop you for passport control (more specifically for visa registration), just to get a bribe, and it doesn't matter yours is in order or not. If you don't speak Russian, you can't argue with them anyway and they will threaten you to take you to the police station, so you better pay. Last year, several members of this and other forums even have been put to the ground with a gun on their head. This usually happens during the night by 3-4am when you get out of strip clubs. Just do a search in the forum, and you will see that the biggest thread in Russia at night is the militia. They are there to rob you, not to protect you. Government pretends that these are just mafia guys disguised with uniforms or with false badges, but everybody knows that they are real militia trying to make ends meet.
For skinheads, just read the news (and this forum too). I must say I haven't seen any myself, but others did. This is a problem only for non-white foreigners (like myself).
This being said, St-Pete is perfectly safe during the day, and I never had any problem myself.
Jim
Guido88,
Are you talking about St. Petersburg for young girls $45-75 hr.
And is this always available any time.
What are the tel services you use. Please.
Guido88,
Are these girls om web sites like [url]http://www.spbgirls.ru[/url] accurate?
Carlojj,
Young starts at 18 years old.
Use the links in Gandjims recent report. Well written and is fresh material. Thanks Jim.
Another option is to pick up the magazines GandJim suggested at a newsstand. Those are accurate although the girl may not be working when you stop in.
My best results in Piter have been from the salons. Better if you go and select the Dev of your choice. Accuracy is becoming more questionable on many of the RU sites. I am seeing more & more pro modeling shots mixed in the websites photos.
Another good link [url]http://spb.s09.ru/[/url]
If you are patient Omen.ru can be good as well.
Good luck
Guido88
Well I have read read a bit of this thred now, allthogh it sounds like there is more veraty hear than in Weston Europe, after reading it I think Russia is a bit to expencive for me at the moment, but maybee one day.
But I would like to thank everone for the information I have been given hear.
Also I hear the Russian porn is good, any one know how to go about getting some of that
so i will be returning to spb for two days on 23/24 november. i have been reading up on the forum and it seems as if things have changed considerably in my old homestead. has everything moved to salon or escort shops or are there still some pick up bars like a magrib or a marstalls that have taken over the mantle? i can remember the days when girls were still fresh at marstalls and expat thursdays at magrib were a candystore of pros and semi pros. if anyone is in town around that time and would like to grab a drink and bring me up to speed drinks are on me.
[quote=russia guy]so i will be returning to spb for two days on 23/24 november. i have been reading up on the forum and it seems as if things have changed considerably in my old homestead. has everything moved to salon or escort shops or are there still some pick up bars like a magrib or a marstalls that have taken over the mantle? i can remember the days when girls were still fresh at marstalls and expat thursdays at magrib were a candystore of pros and semi pros. if anyone is in town around that time and would like to grab a drink and bring me up to speed drinks are on me.[/quote]the last times i was in magrib and marstall were complete waste of time, and this development was over several years. however, i haven't been there for the last year, maybe things have improved? i now either get an escort or go to a salon - and if you like the girl in the salon, you can also take her out for escort:)
[QUOTE=Hein Bloed]I recently visited St. Pete on business, meaning I had little spare time. One night I got lucky in the Lobby of the Hotel Angleterre (next to the Astoria, both Hotels are connected).
Well past midnight there was only one girl waiting for clients - the next day I noticed her together with two other chicks sitting around.
She called herself Valeria (as far as I remember) from Nowgorod. She is about 1,65 - 1,70, very slim max 45, kg, Breast cup A, very long thin black hair. She was dressed in a sexy short dress, nice nylons and high heels - just the way I like it. Her asking price was RUB 10.000 or equivalent is $ or €. Expensive, but I had no alternative and was pretty horny :-).
She said the price would be for "longterm" - I later found out that for her it meant about 1,5 hours only. However, the 90 minutes with her were a blast and I could not have done more, even if I had wanted to.
I can summarize this night as follows: It was not me who "did her", NO, she did me !!! She almost always decided what we would do and she got her way. I first shot my load on her nice breast. Then I received a massage with lotion (she later mentioned, that this would normally cost extra), we kissed a lot (she told me at the end, she normally wouldn't !) I licked her pussy until she decided it was enough and then we fucked in various positions. She even claimed that she got an Orgasmn, which she did not have for several weeks - true or not, she was HOT ! 90 minutes sex in High Gear with an absolutely stunning young woman (I think she said 23). If you happen to see hear, be careful, she's gonna kill you ! (At least that's what she told me, while we were "at it :-) "[/QUOTE]Hi,
You seem to be a lucky guy. Well, I too am travelling to SPb in early November. I shall be staying at HOtel Angelterre. I am non-white. Need help of guys on the forum for good sex. I have a few questions:
1. Can i get girls in hotel angelterre lobby? are they expensive?
2. Where else can i find girls close to the hotel and cheap. I am the kind who would not venture out late in the night bcos i feel it might be unsafe for non-whites.
3. Are there any good agencies which can send girls directly to my room.
4. Does Hotel Angeleterre have problems in getting the girls in? Or do i have to pay the security? if yes how much?
I dont want to be in a uncomfortable position, so guys recommend the best and the easiest way to get the best sex in SPb.
Can anyone help to translate?
ролевые игры
госпожа
Thanks - firebird
[QUOTE=Firebird]Can anyone help to translate?
ролевые игры
госпожа
Thanks - firebird[/QUOTE]
role playing
domina
[QUOTE=Oslo71]I'm going to Russia in September, and wonder if someone has some experience with
Diana ([url]http://www.rusdosug.com/indi8828.htm[/url]).
Anya ([url]http://www.rusdosug.com/indi7389.htm[/url])
or Polina ([url]http://www.rusdosug.com/indi5284.htm[/url])[/QUOTE]Hey, I checked the English speaking section of this rusdosug site and I've seen some of the girls pics elsewhere. Are they a scam? Anyone?
I'm currently staying in St Petersburg for a few weeks. I've read a lot of useful posts on this board for both Moscow and Piter and want to share whatever little new knowledge I've got.
Magrib still sucks as others have pointed out. I've been there a couple times and haven't spotted any pros, besides maybe a few chubby ones in the front bar of the night club section (500r entrance on weekends) I didn't even want to approach.
There are a few strip clubs around Nevsky, Maxima, Gotika, Golden Dolls, Play Girls but they are all expensive and the girls are constantly bugging you for 100r tips. I don't know what the going rates are for sex there but $400/h as mentioned elsewhere on this board is not a bad guess judging from previous experience.
I checked out the boat on the Neva river (Тутси Бар / Tutsy Bar) near the Lt Schmidt bridge (coming from the center, walk about 10 minutes left after you cross the bridge). I walked by during the day, but the place is not very friendly looking.
Photomodeli and the like is not my cup of tea, though salons should be the best option here. For those of you who doesn't speak Russian, the Photomodeli salon on Nevsky 63 is located on the 3rd floor, the entrance from the street is right next to a phone shop. Hotel Star Dust (if i remember the name correctly) is on the 4th floor and the door to the salon is just below this, on the left when you come up the stairs (there's no name on the door). It is possible to take the girls with you if you don't live too far and pay for more than one hour.
The girls from rambler.ru I've called used fake photos. The rate of 2000r is fair I guess, but don't expect too much. They advertise as individuals, but they're more organized than that as it's usually a guy who answers the phone when you call and the girls I've met didn't even have the same names as on their profile.
What I CAN recommend in this city though, is going for freebies. Pick up a copy of WHERE or InYourPocket, find a nearby club, sit in the bar, smile to the good looking girls dancing by, find some who speak English (that's the only hard part), be nice and buy them a few drinks. The rest is routine. Girls here are very open and easy to talk to and they're more sexy than anything you'll ever find west of the border.
This city is not the place for p4p girls. My best suggestion for finding hot young pussy outside salons is to go to the airport and get on a plane to Moscow and ask your driver to drop you off at the Safari club.
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[QUOTE=Master Sergeant]Please reply if anybody can provide detailed info about St. Pete bars and stripclubs scene (especially stripclubs). Will visit St. Pete for long time business purposes.[/QUOTE]Sarge,
The Mother of all strip clubs in SPB is Golden Dolls. But I warn you - it is EXPENSIVE. But the girls are phenomenal.
Jake
[QUOTE=Jake993]Sarge,
The Mother of all strip clubs in SPB is Golden Dolls. But I warn you - it is EXPENSIVE. But the girls are phenomenal.
Jake[/QUOTE]Sorry guys, I'm really not a negative person but I just walked out of Golden Dolls 30 minutes ago. That place is crap. The girls are not very pretty. Entrance friday night is 750r. A beer (A BOTTLE!!) is 300r. I saw the same lazy ***** dance twice in 30 minutes and I'll say that the top girls there today was 6s or 7s.
Dont waste your time in this tourist trap.
[QUOTE=Rogozjin]Sorry guys, I'm really not a negative person but I just walked out of Golden Dolls 30 minutes ago. That place is crap. The girls are not very pretty. Entrance friday night is 750r. A beer (A BOTTLE!!) is 300r. I saw the same lazy ***** dance twice in 30 minutes and I'll say that the top girls there today was 6s or 7s.
Dont waste your time in this tourist trap.[/QUOTE]Wow, I was there only a year ago on a Tuesday night and the girls were gorgeous. I think this goes to support the notion that all of the elite girls have become "sponsorfils" and are hunting for oligarchs not wanting to waste time with small fish like us.
Another fine mongering destination ruined!
Are you specifically looking for a strip lub of are you interested in the salons?
[QUOTE=Rogozjin]Sorry guys, I'm really not a negative person but I just walked out of Golden Dolls 30 minutes ago. That place is crap. The girls are not very pretty. Entrance friday night is 750r. A beer (A BOTTLE!!) is 300r. I saw the same lazy ***** dance twice in 30 minutes and I'll say that the top girls there today was 6s or 7s.
Dont waste your time in this tourist trap.[/QUOTE]Agree, Golden Dolls is expencive crap.
One my friend recommend strip club Maximus.
Here you can see very many hot plave in St.Petersburg
(page on english)
[url]http://www.anabel.ru/club_eng.php#strip[/url]
[QUOTE=Elena Exbi]Agree, Golden Dolls is expencive crap.
One my friend recommend strip club Maximus.
Here you can see very many hot plave in St.Petersburg
(page on english)
[url]http://www.anabel.ru/club_eng.php#strip[/url][/QUOTE]Elena,
I was also in Maximus a year ago. Also nice girls but not as expensive. More intimate atmosphere - not as large. But a lot can change in a year so who knows?
I'm just leaving for SPb right now, and it turns out a few mates who I'd planned to meet up with won't be able to make it. So I was hoping maybe someone else might be around to meet up for a drink and trying a few bars? Does anyone know if Thursday is still Ladies Night in Rossi's?
I speak reasonably fluent Russian and was well up on the salon scene a few years back, so I shouldn't have a problem in that department (apart from finding the ever-changing locations).
Spangle
[QUOTE=Spangle]I'm just leaving for SPb right now, and it turns out a few mates who I'd planned to meet up with won't be able to make it. So I was hoping maybe someone else might be around to meet up for a drink and trying a few bars? Does anyone know if Thursday is still Ladies Night in Rossi's?
I speak reasonably fluent Russian and was well up on the salon scene a few years back, so I shouldn't have a problem in that department (apart from finding the ever-changing locations).
Spangle[/QUOTE]I love peter!
Last time I was visiting maximus and palace pigalle.
But the best are these saunas, where so much girls hanging around outside and waiting that you invite them to go inside. And because you speak their language, you will certainly find what you are looking for!
If you ask a girl of russia if she wants to go to sauna with you means: lets fuck?
also in disco its very easy to get happy. mostly students from the country, who need money to pay university and flat. they ask you for 100-200 € for all night.
Well arrived in the afternoon in to Piter and settled into my roomy apartment across from Nevski Palace. With all the reports from Dr. Skank and others, it definitely is better to get an apartment rather than stay in a hotel. I thought I would score the first day but I was wrong. I called the English number for Domino as GrandJim reported - no luck - could not get through. I called several other "english" speaking numbers on Intimcity, once again Zero luck. Walked across the street to see if any action in the bar at Nevsky Palace - Zero. Against all poor reports for Magrib decided to go there to see if anything to be had - left at 1AM "empty handed". I guess the lack of the language to find the various Salons like "Photomodeli" and others sure is the problem. Boy do I miss Hong Kong and all the pickup bars in Wanchai - super easy to get talent for all night. Well will give it another try tomorrow - hope will have more success.
[QUOTE=Firebird]Well arrived in the afternoon in to Piter and settled into my roomy apartment across from Nevski Palace. With all the reports from Dr. Skank and others, it definitely is better to get an apartment rather than stay in a hotel. I thought I would score the first day but I was wrong. I called the English number for Domino as GrandJim reported - no luck - could not get through. I called several other "english" speaking numbers on Intimcity, once again Zero luck. Walked across the street to see if any action in the bar at Nevsky Palace - Zero. Against all poor reports for Magrib decided to go there to see if anything to be had - left at 1AM "empty handed". I guess the lack of the language to find the various Salons like "Photomodeli" and others sure is the problem. Boy do I miss Hong Kong and all the pickup bars in Wanchai - super easy to get talent for all night. Well will give it another try tomorrow - hope will have more success.[/QUOTE]
If all else fails, try the taxi drivers in front of Magrib. They definitely know where all the salons are. They'll charge a bit for the service of taking you to a salon, but at least you won't go home alone...:)
Also, the English language newspapers which can be found in any hotel lobby will contain contact numbers of escort services that have English operators.
[QUOTE=Werner2727]I love peter!
Last time I was visiting maximus and palace pigalle.
But the best are these saunas, where so much girls hanging around outside and waiting that you invite them to go inside. And because you speak their language, you will certainly find what you are looking for!
If you ask a girl of russia if she wants to go to sauna with you means: lets fuck?
also in disco its very easy to get happy. mostly students from the country, who need money to pay university and flat. they ask you for 100-200 € for all night.[/QUOTE]Where are saunas with girls hanging around outside waiting to be invited in? I was never aware of this, if it is correct, it may be interesting!
Lots of great girls,
Is it fake?
Firebird
Unfortunately Spangle just returned home today from 8 days in Piter. You might PM him for suggestions.
Secondly reread the Piter forum, get the magazines GandJim recommended and as Doc suggested use a cabbie to find the salons.
Do not get discouraged if no one speaks English. Keep calling, very good chance one of the girls who speaks English will come in. May take a few phone calls; getting laid in Piter is easier than Moscow.
Here is a link- [url]http://spb.s09.ru/[/url]
Good Luck
Guido88
I've just returned from a 10-day stay in Petersburg where I had various encounters with both regular and P4P girls. Traditionally, the best options for P4P in Petersburg have been the salons. Once one is familiar with the system and has a few addresses to hand, these provide an excellent and relatively cheap way of entertaing oneself once or twice a day. On this trip, however, I found that the internet dating sites where so much more convenient to use that I only visited a couple of salons for old times sake, (as I love that moment of anticipation as the girls are about to come in).
I should explain a little about how these dating sites work. There are maybe a dozen sites which you can join for free, but essentially they all use the same database. That means once you have registered (for free) with one of these sites, you have access to the searchable database of tens of thousands of girls, many of whom are openly P4P. I have always used [url]www.mheart. Ru[/url], which was one the first. It really doesn't matter which one you join. [url]www.love. Mail. Ru[/url], [url]www.love. Rambler. Ru[/url], etc. They all use the same system. You can even use the same login and password interchangeably.
The majority of the girls online are regular girls, and of these I was able to fix up a few dates, one of which led to a freebie. A lot more work has to be put in with the regulars of course, and I found it paid to start communicating with them in advance of a trip. Regular girls will usually look like the photo they post.
About a tenth of the women are P4P, (maybe even a quarter in the 18. 24 age range). The openly working girls offering 'intim za dengi' are usually identified by a pink border on their photograph. Others are more subtle and can be identified by the age range of men they seek, (e. G. 35. 80), their mode of dress, and other clues in their profile, (looking for sex once or twice, or maybe a sponsor).
There is a chance that the girl may not correspond to the photo, so a little bit of luck is involved. I saw 8 girls from mheart. Ru, 5 of which were definately the same, 2 were different girls, and there was one I wasn't sure about. The process was simple: I would basically see which girls were online and asked whether they were free right then. Usually a copy & pasted reply would come back with prices (usually between 2000r and 2500r per hour), location, and a telephone number. A lot of the negotiation was online, thus avoiding telephoning them, (just a matter of giving them my address and phone number and getting them to ring once they arrived).
Besides the internet girls (of which I will post more later), I took a P4P from Marstalls. An oriental girl who stayed till midday for 5000r. I was also able to find a freebie on one of my visits to Rossis (if you sing well, try the kakaoke. Nobody else will be singing in English). Some of the girls there where P4P too, though I didn't try them. I spent the last night at my apartment watching the Russia vs Israel game with a beautiful woman I first met 15 years ago when we used to correspond before any of us had internet.
[QUOTE=Firebird] I guess the lack of the language to find the various Salons like "Photomodeli" and others sure is the problem. Well will give it another try tomorrow. Hope will have more success. [/QUOTE]I visited a couple of salons, one of which I don't remember the address, the other was Photomodeli na Fontanka and I still have the details for that as I was there only a few days ago. I went quite early in the evening and there were only five girls available. I chose a young blonde girl called Vika for 2000r.
[url]http://photomodeli.ru/html_girl_info.php?g_id=791[/url]
It's located at Fontanka 109, Tel: (812) 948-44-11. To get there, walk down the right hand embankment of the Fontanka from Nevskii Prospekt. After about 20 minutes you will come to a shop on a corner selling laptop computers (? ). This block is No 109, where the salon is located, and you will know you are in the right area if you can see the Dickens pub across the bridge.
Turn right at this corner you will be by a small park (you will find it on the map because it is cresent-shaped. Between a cafe with a Coca-Cola sign (? ) and a shop (? ) is a large grey steel door, (seen in the centre of the attached photograph).
The entry code is 138, though this may change regularly, (you have to press all three numbers together for the door to open). Once inside, the salon is up a few steps. The first apartment on the left, number 9.
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This previous report was my first and I may have made a few technical errors which may need clarifying:
[QUOTE=Spangle]It's located at Fontanka 109, Tel: (812) 948-44-11. To get there, walk down the right hand embankment of the Fontanka from Nevskii Prospekt. After about 20 minutes you will come to a shop on a corner selling laptop computers (? ). This block is No 109, where the salon is located, and you will know you are in the right area if you can see the Dickens pub across the bridge.
Turn right at this corner you will be by a small park (you will find it on the map because it is cresent-shaped. Between a cafe with a Coca-Cola sign (? ) and a shop (? ) is a large grey steel door, (seen in the centre of the attached photograph).[/QUOTE]The sections with the question mark in brackets (? ) were my attempt to use cyrillic on this site, but for some reason it didn't work. So here is how the paragraphs should read, using Latin script instead:
It's located at Fontanka 109, Tel: (812) 948-44-11. To get there, walk down the right hand embankment of the Fontanka from Nevskii Prospekt. After about 20 minutes you will come to a shop on a corner selling laptop computers (SALON NOTBUKY). This block is No 109, where the salon is located, and you will know you are in the right area if you can see the Dickens pub across the bridge.
Turn right at this corner you will be by a small park (you will find it on the map because it is cresent-shaped. Between a cafe with a Coca-Cola sign (KAFE) and a shop (TOVARY DETYAM) is a large grey steel door, (seen in the centre of the attached photograph).
As I mentioned in my last posting, Russian internet dating sites can be a very useful resource for P4P. Here are some of the girls I contacted:
MARIA
[url]http://www.mheart.ru/anketa.phtml?oid=137188606[/url]
Maria was the first girl I contacted, and in her advert she writes that she only does outcall. Outcalls are easier to organise online as it's not much harder than ordering a pizza, just a matter of writing down your address. I asked if she was available, and she wrote back that the price was 2500 roubles ($100) an hour or 4000 roubles for two hours ($160). I think she lives near the centre as she was able to get round to my apartment within half an hour. She was a lot of fun to be with, she laughed and smiled a lot, and though I paid for an hour I probaly got closer to two. The photo I've attached doesn't do her much justice - she looked stunning in reality, and very much like her online photo, (where her face is slightly hidden).
AMAZONKA (KRISTINA)
[url]http://www.mheart.ru/anketa.phtml?oid=156829195[/url]
(The link leads to a warning page about there being erotic content. Just tick the box so you don't get the warning again, and select the left hand button underneath it)
The blonde girl in the advert is Kristina, and she's part of a small collective of girls working out of Zakhav'evskaya Ulitsa No 7, located just off the far end of Liteinii Prospekt. Though her reply said it wasn't a salon, there were several girls available for incall (2000 roubles) or outcall (2500 roubles). I decided to call in so that I could have a choice. Kristina was even wearing the little tartan miniskirt she has in the ad. I spent an hour with her for and got some photos which I've attached. She also has an advert under the name of Kristi with slightly different pictures: [url]http://www.mheart.ru/anketa.phtml?oid=156878236[/url]
MIA
[url]http://www.mheart.ru/anketa.phtml?oid=160485266[/url]
I called into the Zakhav'evskaya apartment another of time and saw Mia, (whose picture interestingly has her wearing that little tartan skirt), a nice little brunette. Again the price was 2000 roubles.
(By the way, the girl who answered the door at this apartment on both occasions was also available, and she has an ad under the name of Evaaa: [url]http://www.mheart.ru/anketa.phtml?oid=160320198[/url] )
OLESYA
[url]http://www.mheart.ru/anketa.phtml?oid=123472331[/url]
The ad seemed promising, but Olesya was disappointing. She had a stunning body, very tall with long blonde hair, though her face looked a little different from the girl in the photo. She's located at Stolyarnii Pereulok No. 5, but she was really hard work. Not nasty or anything, just a little too professional and forgettable. Not recommended unless tall moody blondes who complain about you being too big for them is your thing.
OLYA
[url]http://www.mheart.ru/anketa.phtml?oid=154065368[/url]
A different girl from the picture, but in contrast to Olesya much more fun to be with. She gave a BBBJ without asking, and was one of the closest to a GFE that I got. Interestingly, Olya gave me a little bit of an insight into why a lot of P4P girls don't post there photo. Before she left, she went onto my laptop and showed me her other 'regular' profile, where she has her real pictures and is just a normal Russian girl seeking the right man in her life. I got the impression that she would have liked me to have contacted her real persona, rather than the working girl.
There were a few other girls I saw which I will post later.
NOTE:
The links on this page lead to profiles on [url]www.mheart.ru[/url]. If you are registered with another site using the same database, then you can use the 'suffix' of each URL to view the pictures full size. For instance, on mheart, Maria is:
[url]http://www.mheart.ru/anketa.phtml?oid=137188606[/url]
On love.mail.ru:
[url]http://www.love.mail.ru/anketa.phtml?oid=137188606[/url]
On love.rambler.ru:
[url]http://www.love.rambler.ru/anketa.phtml?oid=137188606[/url]
Get the picture? (Don't forget to log onto your site first to see the pictures full size).
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Great report!
Is there any button on the datingsites where I can switch to englisg language?
Eventually, do you also know one site with english?
I should explain a little about how these dating sites work. There are maybe a dozen sites which you can join for free, but essentially they all use the same database. That means once you have registered (for free) with one of these sites, you have access to the searchable database of tens of thousands of girls, many of whom are openly P4P. I have always used [url]www.mheart. Ru[/url], which was one the first. It really doesn't matter which one you join. [url]www.love. Mail. Ru[/url], [url]www.love. Rambler. Ru[/url], etc. They all use the same system. You can even use the same login and password interchangeably.
The majority of the girls online are regular girls, and of these I was able to fix up a few dates, one of which led to a freebie. A lot more work has to be put in with the regulars of course, and I found it paid to start communicating with them in advance of a trip. Regular girls will usually look like the photo they post.
About a tenth of the women are P4P, (maybe even a quarter in the 18. 24 age range). The openly working girls offering 'intim za dengi' are usually identified by a pink border on their photograph. Others are more subtle and can be identified by the age range of men they seek, (e. G. 35. 80), their mode of dress, and other clues in their profile, (looking for sex once or twice, or maybe a sponsor).
[QUOTE=Dick1]Great report!
Is there any button on the datingsites where I can switch to englisg language?
Eventually, do you also know one site with english?[/QUOTE]The short answer is No. And the day it happens will be a bad day as that's when the prices will go up and up, just as they have in the clubs aimed at western tourists. The language barrier filters out a lot of potential English-speakers, the sort who will pay top dollar in Night Flight without flinching. Fortunately, as it stands now, the rarity value of those English-speakers who do manage to register and use these site is at a premium.
Apart from cosmetic differences, all these sites are the same, none of them have any extras that the other's don't. However, you can always use a translator program to help translate the pages. Once registered, then you don't actually need the sites to be in English, as you just need to be able to communicate with the girls.
If the girls you contact know English, then you can communicate. If they don't, then you can't communicate unless you know Russian. The actual language of the site makes little difference.
Of all the adventures I had in St Petersburg, my encounter with Alena and Olga was the most memorable, and deserves a report of its own. As usual, I found the ad on the mheart site:
[url]http://www.mheart.ru/anketa.phtml?oid=159180695[/url]
Though the ad is in the name of Alena, there are actually two girls, the other being Olga. Olga is the taller and eldest of the two and does all the negotiating. I got in contact and she told me that they only work together as a threesome and that the cost would be 12000 roubles for two hours. (That works out at 3000 roubles per hour each, which is expensive when compared to other internet girls, though competitive with girls working out of the clubs. They are available for 8000 for one hour, but decided on two). Olga was very pleasant to negotiate with, and knows some English, probably enough to be able to communicate with non-Russian speakers. (She apparently speaks German very well). When I told them I was interested in calling round, Olga asked for my number rather than give me hers, then phoned me, probably a method of filtering out timewasters.
The apartment is located at Zagorodnii Prospekt 40. There is an arch next to a Sushi restaurant which leads into a court yard. The apartment was the first door on the right. On arrival, I telephoned but they weren't quite ready for me, so I had to wait around a little.
Olga opened the door, dressed in a short top and very short skirt. She's very tall, with a cracking body. The other girl, 19-year-old Alena, is an absolutely stunning blonde. I could see right away that the girls 100% matched their online profile, and even recognised that the erotic photos posted on their web page had been taken in this very apartment. Alena had only just arrived from college, so Olga showed me some more of their photos on their computer. When Alena came back in, she sat on Olga's lap and they started kissing and laughing.
I took the usual shower and came back into the living room. What was interesting at this point is that they avoided the usual script. Quite often with P4P you can have a really great-looking girl, but the situation is not memorable because the girl follows the same pattern of massage, condom rolled on with mouth, blow-job, sit on cock, turn over, missionary postition, doggy position, etc. With Olga and Alena things were a lot more spontaneous. First of all, they started on the couch, I just watched them doing all sorts of things to each other while they would occasionally reach out to grab my knob. Eventually they both went down on me, licking and sucking around my knob for about ten minutes, (the actual BJ when it came was covered).
We then moved into the bedroom, where I remembered that they'd said I could take a few photos. I took a few shots of them playng with their toys, then started to join in myself, occasionally taking photos or shooting some video. I tried pretty much every position I could think of. During sex, both girls kissed quite passionately, and it was pretty much a GFE, especially with Alena who seemed to enjoy DFK. I took Alena doggy style while Olga lay underneath her 69-style, licking my my balls. Then they switched positions. As Alena lay undeneath licking my balls, Olga actually said she'd actually prefer anal sex. Though I don't particularly bother much with anal sex, I realised that this was an offer I wasn't going to get very often so went for it. Eventually I told them I was about to come and to get their arses up in the air ready for it. Olga said don't forget to photograph it, though logistically this proved awkward. Still I got a picture just after I'd finished.
I just hope they're still there when I go back to SPb. Expensive, but I felt I had good value for money. Recommended!
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Hi
Am new to the forum but visiting SPB next week. Unable to speak Russian but have somehow managed to register for the myheart website. Thing is there doesn't appear to be any phone numbers. Am I missing something here?
[QUOTE=Chrismith24]Hi
Am new to the forum but visiting SPB next week. Unable to speak Russian but have somehow managed to register for the myheart website. Thing is there doesn't appear to be any phone numbers. Am I missing something here?[/QUOTE]
Yes, you are.
These are dating websites where you have to contact the girls and chat with them by messages. If they are pros they'll most likely send a canned email with telephone number and rates right away, otherwise if they are semi-pro or normal girls you'll have to chat with them a bit to get a phone number. It isn't an upfront prostitute site per se, however as Spangle correctly wrote, there are many pros on the site... about 10-20% of the "profiles" are from pros.
[QUOTE=Chrismith24]Am new to the forum but visiting SPB next week. Unable to speak Russian but have somehow managed to register for the myheart website. Thing is there doesn't appear to be any phone numbers. Am I missing something here?[/QUOTE]Like most dating sites, members are not allowed to post telephone numbers and email addresses in their profiles. You'll also notice that working girls will not post prices in their profiles.
However, there are no such restictions when posting messages to each other, so a girl can quite easily tell you her telephone number when you chat with her. Essentially, on these sites you simply chat with the girl using a process that will be familiar if you've ever used instant messenger applications like MSN or ICQ.
You don't have the problem of making a 'cold' phone call, which will be virtually impossible anyway if you are unable to speak Russian, and she turns out to know little English. (The advantage of using these sites is that most of the details such as prices, times, addresses, etc, can be communicated in writing, with the phone call often being just a matter of you saying you've arrived at hers, or she at yours).
If the girl is online, then you can communicate in real time. (Look for orange script which transliterates as "Seichas na saite! " meaning "Now on the site"). Go to the girl's page. Just below the thumbnail pictures you will see a small pale green icon shaped like an envelope, next to the words "Napishite mne soobshchenie" ("write me a message"). Select this to open the messaging window, write your message and send it. You might be ask a P4P girl whether she's free now, does she do outcall, how much, etc. Or you might ask a regular girl how good her English is, etc, maybe leading up to a asking for a date.
If the girl is online, you may get a message back right away. If not, then it's a bit like email and you can pick up the reply later.
If she replies right away and you still have the messaging window open, it should refresh automatically, (though this does not always happen – there is a refresh button available). You may also hear a short chiming alert when you receive a message.
If you have closed the messaging window, or have just logged on, then all unread messages are indicated in brown script next to the 'My Contacts' link (located in the side panel which appears at the left of most pages. Refresh the pages often to see if you have recieved any new messages.
As you can receive messages while offline, it's usually the first thing to check for when you first log on. Clicking on the link will take you to a page where you can manage your contacts. You'll notice more four links to the right, these are four 'folders' for managing your contact list. The uppermost link is the 'General Folder' – this is the folder to which the page defaults, and where messages from members who are not in your 'Selected Users' (I. E. Favourites) list will appear. If you have received any messages, there will be a small brown numeral next to the name of the person and clicking on this will open the messaging window.
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Using information provided by Spangle, I called Photomodelli at Fontanka 109 and asked for "English" speaking girl. I asked for hourly rate and was told 2000 roubles - okay sounds good. Making my way to the location using local taxi, found the place exactly as Spangle reported. Line-up was provided of about 10 girls ranging from "non-acceptable" to about a 6. Chose one of the better ones and the mamochka asked for payment - gave her 2000 rouble and she asked for another 1500 rouble. Using my limited Russian I argued that I was told 2000 on the phone but to no avail - I was so pissed that they misled me that I left.
Magrib is still a big "zero" BUT I was able to score twice with nice "home delivery" using the Domino English speaking telephone.
Spangle
Excellent report looks like you had a great time.
Kicking myself for missing the trip and I suspect Oilman and Lukasek are as well.
You mentioned karaoke at Rossi’s, how about ladies night there or at other clubs?
Or any other clubs you visited that looked good for freebies?
Love the idea of home delivery. Have tried to register for Mheart but difficult thru translation software.
Well done
Guido88
Firebird
One thing I forgot to mention about using a taxi to find a salon is the cab driver frequently gets a percentage from the salon. If he got you inside the building, that is what happened. Once inside get a card and write the address and door code down and next time the pricing should be correct. Or call them and ask them to send over some girls and you choose who you want.
Solution is to have the taxi get you to the door address then let him go and call the salon and have them come get you at the street. Does not take much Russian to do this. I am lucky if I speak 50 words.
Also wait until the girls line up and ask if any of the girls speak English or do anal or any other preferences. For me English is a nonessential as pretty with a hard body is much more important.
Knowing you were looking for English they may have decided to ask for a surcharge. Pretty rare that a salon tries to rip you off. Rovnak has lived in Piter for 3 or so years and he has reported this 1 time. If that was the case you did the correct thing and walked away.
You were staying in a walking proximity to 15 or more salons. The key is to be persistent. Call the same salon 6 times in a day and at some point an English speaker will pick up the phone. Takes some time, which can be difficult if you are in town working. Ordering off the Internet for home delivery is by far the easiest way to go. Dominos does a pretty good job.
Guido88
I would say that the Domino "option" worked the best for me. One time they sent me a non-English speaker and it worked out quite fine. Once you call them within 30minutes or so she is at your apartment. The driver that took me to the Photomodeli site, I used several times before and I got to be friendly with. I believe this was just a case of the Salon trying to make some extra cash seeing a foreigner. Last night of the trip, I took a duable girl from Magrib. Her English was quite good. Picked up some vine and went back to the apartment. Cute body and quite effectionate. During fingering was quite vocal and reached orgasm several times - this was no acting. Then realized that she was just finishing her period as the bed was quite soiled with blood. Quickly washed hands - Ugh, this happened to me several times before - just my luck.
[QUOTE=Guido88]Firebird
One thing I forgot to mention about using a taxi to find a salon is the cab driver frequently gets a percentage from the salon. If he got you inside the building, that is what happened. Once inside get a card and write the address and door code down and next time the pricing should be correct. Or call them and ask them to send over some girls and you choose who you want.
Solution is to have the taxi get you to the door address then let him go and call the salon and have them come get you at the street. Does not take much Russian to do this. I am lucky if I speak 50 words.
Also wait until the girls line up and ask if any of the girls speak English or do anal or any other preferences. For me English is a nonessential as pretty with a hard body is much more important.
Knowing you were looking for English they may have decided to ask for a surcharge. Pretty rare that a salon tries to rip you off. Rovnak has lived in Piter for 3 or so years and he has reported this 1 time. If that was the case you did the correct thing and walked away.
You were staying in a walking proximity to 15 or more salons. The key is to be persistent. Call the same salon 6 times in a day and at some point an English speaker will pick up the phone. Takes some time, which can be difficult if you are in town working. Ordering off the Internet for home delivery is by far the easiest way to go. Dominos does a pretty good job.
Guido88[/QUOTE]
Is there anyway in St. Petersburg this weekend? i could join for a company. I am 40 years old guy from Finland. i do not know this scene very well. I saw somewhere a map of brothels in here. Where to find it gain?
Thanks in advance
Anybody I mean of course.
I can speak english OK!
Drifter - see the Reports of Distinction - GandJim did report on Salons recently.
Lot of information - sites and map
[QUOTE=Drifter 39]Is there anyway in St. Petersburg this weekend? i could join for a company. I am 40 years old guy from Finland. i do not know this scene very well. I saw somewhere a map of brothels in here. Where to find it gain?
Thanks in advance[/QUOTE]