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[blue]Editor's Note: It was pointed out to me that I had a section for analists, so why didn't I have a section for oralists?
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Oh yes I have been to Oral. My favorite ones have been by KL, Malaysia hookers. Some working women have obviously passed on technique tips to their younger sisters. I had a lousy bj here recently in Tokyo. I think prostitutes should be made pass an exam or something in bjs before they are let loose on an unsuspecting public.
Just a quick note...I like it best when a chick gives me a no-hands blowjob. It's arguably one of the best type of blowjobs to have!! hehe..OH!!.. deepthroat chicks are on my list too, hehe!!
Oh, yes! Oral is the way to go! Any girl who stays in the business learns fast how to give good head, if she didn't know before. I think a lot depends on their general atitude, but with practice they get better. Which may be why (I think) girls with big tits give better head because they got started earlier. I asked a gf one time (who had huge knockers) where she learned her technique, and she told me, "I grew up in Oklahoma, where men were men and didn't wear rubbers. When I was 13 I discovered that if I didn't want to be a momma by 14, I was gonna learn to love the taste of baby batter!" And she did!
I have a question for the members. How dangerous is a blowjob without a condom i.e. a bare backed blowhob. By shooting it all off in her mouth could one contact any unwonted diseases?
BBBJ is less risky than other things, but you can still get several diseases, including the clap, herpes, etc. It's also possible, according to the CDC and other places, to get HIV this way, but as far as I'm aware there are only a couple of cases where this is fairly certain as the transmission method, so the odds are pretty low.
Joe Zopp
The odds of getting HIv is pretty much nill. There has been only one report of contraction from felatio. The person who contracted it was some gay guy in San Francisco who had multiple sexual partners. This tells me that he almost certainly got it from anal sex....
I like a no hands blow job and cum in their faces for a great finish.
If you want a facial it's best to try & find a local girl. They tend to be more desperate & less picky.
Actually, Hargow20, that's not true. There are a number of studies which have documented such transmission. The CDC's Options Project, which is considered the most definitive, reported eight cases from their studied group in San Francisco where oral sex was the probable infection method, with half of that infected number never engaging in anal sex -- and anyone who engaged in condomless anal sex or reported the possibility of breakage was thrown out of the study. Your multiple partner comment seems rather irrelevant, given we're talking on a board full of people who have multiple partners. And yes, those in this study were gay, but the CDC's fact sheet also reports documented male-female examples.
HOWEVER -- to the best of my knowledge, there's no clear case of someone contracting HIV by [i]receiving[/i] a blowjob, as opposed to giving, though transmission can definitely happen with herpes and gonorrhea, and possibly also with hepatitis B, chlamydia, HPV and syphilis. In all cases, though, the risk is considered to be significantly lower than vaginal or anal sex.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Skinless
[i]Oh yes I have been to Oral. My favorite ones have been by KL, Malaysia hookers. Some working women have obviously passed on technique tips to their younger sisters. I had a lousy bj here recently in Tokyo. I think prostitutes should be made pass an exam or something in bjs before they are let loose on an unsuspecting public. [/i][/QUOTE]Skinless, where do we go to apply to be on the licensing panel? It sounds like hard work, but some of us are willing to make the sacrifice.
TM
Joe_Zop
Homosexual males have a large numer of partners:
(http://www.traditionalvalues.org/print.php?sid=1059)
"He noted that the first NIH definition in the late 70s referred to ten to twenty partners a year. Then it was expanded to a hundred sexual partners a year. "…now we're using the term to describe five hundred partners in a single year," said Rotello"
So therefore homosexuals are in a extremely high risk group. So since the subject of the study were all gay I think the data is highly flawed at best.
Well, Hargow, the vast majority of people on this board also have a lot of partners, including plenty of folks with substantially more than ten or twenty partners a year. The issue in the CDC study wasn't how many partners someone had or their sexual orientation but the possibilitiy of HIV/AIDS transmission via oral sex, and since the study specifically screened for other transmission possibilities, I don't exactly see your point with this citation. Are you asserting the info from the cited Dutch study automatically means the CDC engaged in bad science? Or that you have the expertise to determine how good or bad such a study might be without reading it simply because you [i]know[/] all infected gays are getting screwed in the ass by lots more other gays than the CDC could possibly know?
The question is whether or not HIV transmission can take place via oral -- as I said at the beginning, according to a variety of studies, it can happen, but the odds are very low -- and there are very clearly more documented cases than the single one you mentioned and dismissed. Last thing I read said that about a third of new HIV cases in the US are women, which means there's reason to pay attention, since those are my partners of choice. (It's even higher world-wide, and the vast majority of those with AIDS in Africa are heterosexual.) Yup, it's a lower percentage in the US and disproportionate compared to gays, but we were discussing whether or not there's risk.
You may see it differently, but personally I'd hardly trust the perspective or science authority of the site you mention -- which is a politically-oriented one that as far as I could see doesn't have a single even neutral thing to say about homosexuals -- over the CDC when it comes to dispensing expertise on disease. There are plenty of things over which I take issue with the CDC, but I'm not going to take the word of a conservative Christian political group -- one that refers to Aztec architectural design as "pagan" as if that's some sort of call-to-arms abomination -- over them without some serious evidence.
I could care less whether or not gays have one or a thousand partners -- what's important to me is my own and my partners' infection risks, and whether or not HIV can actually be transmitted via oral sex. The CDC says, yes, it can happen, and this is supported by other studies, so I'm cautious in terms of it being at least possible. The CDC study isn't the only one that says this -- other referenced studies report oral to genital transmission, including female to male via oral, both via blowjob and pussy eating, but these are less authoritative in terms of being scientific studies versus reported cases. The infction risks are clearly far, far lower this way than, say, unprotected anal sex, but we still all must make decisions about our behaviours based on our tolerance to such risks. I know it's possible, just as I know it's possible to get the clap or chlamydia via bbbj, but that doesn't necessarily mean I won't get one, just that I'd rather make an informed choice so I'm aware of the risk I might be taking.
Joe_Zop: I agree all the way. Well put. We all make our own choices, the more informed ~ the better. NOTHING is 100% safe, so the more we know, the less we tend to take stupid risks... but in the end it remains one man and his choice. My choice is to enjoy BBBJ. My "safety net" is a simple and discreet visual inspection: ulcers, lesions (for simplex I & II), rash (internal & external …etc NOT a full medical you understand but enough for me to retain my confidence and thus my hard-on. ...and for the flamers no, it's not a case of say "AHHH" before I stick it in... {LOL}
Hargow20: friendly medical opinion ~ read the data from a neutral view point. Homo / Hetro, both the same fragile human beings...
Peace, Havanaman
A recent letter mentioned the AIDS explosion in Africa.
Conditions are much different there. The VD rate is sky-high. A woman with syphilis or gonnorhea is likely to have vaginal lesions, which are easy entryways for the AIDS virus. Condoms are largely unavailable in Africa, so a horny guy is shooting craps with destiny whenever he gets laid.
The female-to-male transmission is lower, but much higher than here. VD causes lesions on the cock as well, and those are entry points. It's unfortunate they can't stick to blow jobs, where there is a reduced risk, but where AIDS transmission is low, and maybe even non-existent.
The essence of this message is from the New York Times, but then it may have been written by Jayson Blaire, so take it with a grain of salt.
Joe_Zop
The gay community is a very high risk group for HIV & AID's the statistics bear this out. Furthermore the reason why HIV has started rising again is because many males in the gay community are engaging in unprotected sex.