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[QUOTE=Poucolouco; 1281546]Thank you, Jackson.
We now return to the original ISG Forum with the purpose for which it was created.[/QUOTE]Thanks, for sure. The poorman evidently never got the chance to unload on his Top sargeant, tell him all about the and-word, and Mark Twain, so in order to get off, he dumps it here.
Rio is Over. It was a fun place once upon a time. If all there is to say now is what happened in 40-minutes in a cabin with a flat-backer than what's here has become nothing more than a circle jerk. (note: four times in Rio last year, most recently December)
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Girl Friendly
[QUOTE=Big Aussie]Hi Guys,
It has been about a year since I was in Rio and I normally stay a few nights in an Apt so taking GDP's from help is not an issue, this time however I will only stay one night hence a hotel is the only option. Does anyone know of a decent girl friendly hotel that does not charge an arm and a leg for that special overnight friend? I have stayed a the Sheraton before and they were cool but I am looking for somewhere coll and closer to Copa. I will be overnighting on 1/18 if any other member want to meet up and go on the prowl.
BA[/QUOTE] [url]http://www.promenade.com.br[/url] Click on the British flag for English. I have stayed in the Visconti in Ipanema many times and the night staff is very professional about the whole thing. If your guest leaves before 7:00 AM, you can expect a call from the front desk to check and see if everything is ok.
I have also stayed in a few of their Belo Horizonte hotels but no others in Rio. I have heard that the Leblon locations are great but don't know anything about their hotel in Copa.
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Girl friendly
[QUOTE=Jake993][url]http://www.promenade.com.br[/url] Click on the British flag for English. I have stayed in the Visconti in Ipanema many times and the night staff is very professional about the whole thing. If your guest leaves before 7:00 AM, you can expect a call from the front desk to check and see if everything is ok.
I have also stayed in a few of their Belo Horizonte hotels but no others in Rio. I have heard that the Leblon locations are great but don't know anything about their hotel in Copa.[/QUOTE]Try The Barritz I think that is the name. It is right next door to the Rio Rioss hotel. 160 Reais very nice at the desk. I was there in November 26 also for one day. Nice new rooms. and 2 block from Help and MP.
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Girl friendly
[QUOTE=Jake993][url]http://www.promenade.com.br[/url] Click on the British flag for English. I have stayed in the Visconti in Ipanema many times and the night staff is very professional about the whole thing. If your guest leaves before 7:00 AM, you can expect a call from the front desk to check and see if everything is ok.
I have also stayed in a few of their Belo Horizonte hotels but no others in Rio. I have heard that the Leblon locations are great but don't know anything about their hotel in Copa.[/QUOTE]You are sure that this place is girl friendly and their will be no problem with bringing a girl over? What if you are planning to stay a month is it a good idea to stay at this location or should I rent an apartment? I really like staying away from the copa scene until it is time to play if you catch my drift. Less drama.
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Bbbjcim?
Can this happen in Brazil? I have read so many posts but all of them end at BBBJ but have not seen any where the girls seem to offer BBBJCIM etc.
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[QUOTE=Bizzie]Has anyone used this for renting an apartment?
[url]http://www.rioapartments.com[/url]
They seem to have some nice aprtments but no prices.[/QUOTE]I contacted them about a nice one bedroom apartment, they got back to me with 130 us per night for 21 nights. I thought it was a bit high. Managed to get something better and 2 bedrooms for 80 us per night, direct with one off the owners off luxuary 1/2 bed apartments that I know in Rio.
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[QUOTE=Big Aussie]Hi Guys,
It has been about a year since I was in Rio and I normally stay a few nights in an Apt so taking GDP's from help is not an issue, this time however I will only stay one night hence a hotel is the only option. Does anyone know of a decent girl friendly hotel that does not charge an arm and a leg for that special overnight friend? I have stayed a the Sheraton before and they were cool but I am looking for somewhere coll and closer to Copa. I will be overnighting on 1/18 if any other member want to meet up and go on the prowl.
BA[/QUOTE]
Post this question in the Rio apartment/hotel thread to get more responses.
TJ
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The Eagle Has Landed (Part 1)
After being stranded in Atlanta dur to missing my connection, I finally made it. Initally I dropped my stuff off in Laranjeiras, took care of some business in Centro, then headed to ground zero.
I´ve been told that I just missed a stint of 3-4 day of rain, but now it´s hot, and muggy. I ended up at Meia Pataca foir a couple of hours just taking it all in. Being relatively early, there wasn´t much to see. I studied the other people had a quick sandwich, then hit the beach. All I could think was that it was fucking hot.
I had a cpuple of beers but didn´t want to sit too long. Afterwards, I headed back to MP. I ended up sitting with Jane aka Brtty Boop. Damn she can talk alot. Do I care that she´s excited about doing a porno with some guy, hell no. But, her friend was cute, so I stayed.
After a few drinks, I moticed something was starting to stir in me. There was this girl, I don´t remember her name, but she an 8 in my book. We ended up going to the Vanity Hotel, cost R$70. I don´t know the time limit, but it was a waste.
While I am told that I am big by women, I never really thought about it before. Well, in this case, it worked against me. She gave a terrible bbbj, and I was limited to only a couple of positions. Neither offered deep peneration. The deeper I tried to go, the worst the experience got. I just wanted it to be over. I forced myself to finish, and we both went back to MP.
We sat at the same table as before, but there was another American there, and 3 more girls. The girl I had been with had a sister that just happened to be sitting at the table. We all laughed and drank, and Jane became louder. There was this girl I had been waiting form who showed up at 7:30ish. I suggesrewd we hit Lapa, then the motel. She had to be home at 10. That´s bullshit.
I was looking for something for the nightm but she couldn´t stay. I gave her R$50 and sent her on her way. Of course I was told I should´ve given her more but that was bullshit. She got more than she deserved. But, I was being nice.
Then came Thalita, she was also sitting at the same table. She was cute, small breasts, but a great smile and personality. She claims to have worked at Lumos, but I didn´t really care. She was a pro. She did things to me that were just crazy. I really appreciate those celling mirrors that come in the room. She said I could take pics but didn´t have my camera with me. I will repeat and show pics later.
The plan for tonight is Help, and doing a threesome. I´m looking forward to it. I will offer more detailed report one I get the bugs worked out with my schedule.
Centro Casas
VM
Termas
Party at VIP´s
Meet my next exwife.
ryjer
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Heading to Rio 1/9 to 1/15
Was there back in July. Had great times in several of the termas and some independents from Hotside website. If you are planning on being there during this time - perhaps we can grab a drink.
Can't wait. Happy New Years
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[quote=ryjerrob]after being stranded in atlanta dur to missing my connection, i finally made it. initally i dropped my stuff off in laranjeiras, took care of some business in centro, then headed to ground zero.
i've been told that i just missed a stint of 3-4 day of rain, but now it's hot, and muggy. i ended up at meia pataca foir a couple of hours just taking it all in. being relatively early, there wasn't much to see. i studied the other people had a quick sandwich, then hit the beach. all i could think was that it was fucking hot.
i had a cpuple of beers but didn't want to sit too long. afterwards, i headed back to mp. i ended up sitting with jane aka brtty boop. damn she can talk alot. do i care that she's excited about doing a porno with some guy, hell no. but, her friend was cute, so i stayed.
after a few drinks, i moticed something was starting to stir in me. there was this girl, i don't remember her name, but she an 8 in my book. we ended up going to the vanity hotel, cost r$70. i don't know the time limit, but it was a waste.
while i am told that i am big by women, i never really thought about it before. well, in this case, it worked against me. she gave a terrible bbbj, and i was limited to only a couple of positions. neither offered deep peneration. the deeper i tried to go, the worst the experience got. i just wanted it to be over. i forced myself to finish, and we both went back to mp.
we sat at the same table as before, but there was another american there, and 3 more girls. the girl i had been with had a sister that just happened to be sitting at the table. we all laughed and drank, and jane became louder. there was this girl i had been waiting form who showed up at 7:30ish. i suggesrewd we hit lapa, then the motel. she had to be home at 10. that's bullshit.
i was looking for something for the nightm but she couldn't stay. i gave her r$50 and sent her on her way. of course i was told i should've given her more but that was bullshit. she got more than she deserved. but, i was being nice.
then came thalita, she was also sitting at the same table. she was cute, small breasts, but a great smile and personality. she claims to have worked at lumos, but i didn't really care. she was a pro. she did things to me that were just crazy. i really appreciate those celling mirrors that come in the room. she said i could take pics but didn't have my camera with me. i will repeat and show pics later.
the plan for tonight is help, and doing a threesome. i'm looking forward to it. i will offer more detailed report one i get the bugs worked out with my schedule.
centro casas
vm
termas
party at vip´s
meet my next exwife.
ryjer[/quote]glad you made it safe. i am a delta flyer. why the delay in atlanta? have a good time. i've beem back in california from rio 17 days, and i am already looking for tickets for march.
are you in a hotel or apartment? i am considering a hotel next time. apartments are too hit and miss.
here's the weather forecast from now to monday.
t-storms early-tonight
high: 83°
low: 73°
pm t-storms-tomorrow
high: 82°
low: 73°
rep001tered t-storms-saturday
high: 86°
low: 73°
rep001tered t-storms-sunday
high: 76°
low: 72°
showers-monday
high: 75°
low: 71°
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[QUOTE=Tummysangs]Can this happen in Brazil? I have read so many posts but all of them end at BBBJ but have not seen any where the girls seem to offer BBBJCIM etc.[/QUOTE]
Yes, frequently. This is the type of thing that should be negotiated before committing to the girl. Negotiate, negotiate, negotiate!
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The Eagle Has Landed (Part 2)
Ended up back at MP where I ran into the same American from the previous night. Shared war stories from the night before, and he took notes about my ex-termas girl. I really missed her skills last night.
After spending the day at the beach, where I took some video, I ended up at Help. While this was not my thought, I went with my new friend. We drank 2 bottles of Jose Cuervo, and I was feeling it. DAMN!!!!!!!!!!!! After watching the ladies, I decided on yet another spinner type.
She called herself Nadia, and said she was from Bahia. She was a 8, with a great smile. I kept telling her she was the queen of my heart. Ended up spending the night with her at Vanity. We fucked, and I ate the hell outta that buceta. We then ordered some food, and fell asleep.
In the morning, she went on an on about me snoring. I tried to warn her. We then watched the spicy hot channel, and fucked like rabbits. She offered many words of encouragement, but hell, after a night of drinking, it wasn´t going to happen anytime soon. Got her number, and made plans to meet later. Of course, I´m interviewing this sweet young thing from brazilcupid today.
All in all, I´m starting to get into the groove. Stay tuned for more
On a personal not.............why would a chick offer to fuck me with a strap-on??? Sounds pretty sick. EXIT ONLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ryjer
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[QUOTE=Jamaicanceo]
Are you in a hotel or apartment? I am considering a hotel next time. Apartments are too hit and miss.
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Are you serious? Pretty much everyone here favors an apartment over a hotel.
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Help needed
I will be visiting rio for first time,
I have seen a lot of reports on help disco, is it safe to pick gals from help.
How are help gals in term of service,whats the avg. price for night and any good girl friendly hotel near help disco.
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[QUOTE=Rodeo9112]Does anyone know if the big butt Porn Star Luana makes herself available in Rio? If so, contact info would be great! Also looking for Monica Santiago, Sumaya or Bruna Ferraz.
Rodeo[/QUOTE]I heard that the porn star who goes by the name darlene was available at 4x4 last year, not sure about luana, but I would imagine that she would be very busy if she worked the termas, because that bunda and body is just crazy!
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[QUOTE=Bizzie]Are you serious? Pretty much everyone here favors an apartment over a hotel.[/QUOTE]Based on what I went through with my apartment stays, the managers had no options if something went wrong. If a hotel room had an issue with furniture or plumbing, for example, hotels will likey have other rooms to relocate you. My last apartment had a major plumbing leak, and the rental service did't have suiable options. So I was stuck with workers in my apartment, and water leaking on my bathroom floor. They only had one apartment to show me, and it wasn't a great move. Plus when I first got the apartment, there wasn't enough towels and sheets. I spent $280.00 of my money for extra linen, and it would've been too costly to take them home, so I had to leave the extra linen with the manager and hopefully use them again on my next trip.
So I scouted out a few hotels at or near Ave Atlantica. It's worth a try on my next trip. And the double occupancy for female guests doesn't seem too expensive for me.
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Wow
[QUOTE=Pune Fun]I will be visiting rio for first time,
I have seen a lot of reports on help disco, is it safe to pick gals from help.
How are help gals in term of service,whats the avg. price for night and any good girl friendly hotel near help disco.[/QUOTE]You're gonna get a few replies to these unfamiliar questions.
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[QUOTE=Pune Fun]I will be visiting rio for first time,
I have seen a lot of reports on help disco, is it safe to pick gals from help.
How are help gals in term of service,whats the avg. price for night and any good girl friendly hotel near help disco.[/QUOTE]Are you serious?
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Chose Wisely
[QUOTE=Pune Fun]I will be visiting rio for first time,
I have seen a lot of reports on help disco, is it safe to pick gals from help.
How are help gals in term of service,whats the avg. price for night and any good girl friendly hotel near help disco.[/QUOTE]I almost got taken when I chose a girl from help. Luckily I used the advice touted in Bubba Boy's guide and avoided a possible negative situation. Nevertheless, not all the girls in Help are bad seeds. There are many a monger that have had good experiences with girls from help. Try to think logically and follow the advice of experienced mongers on this board and you will be fine.
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You might want to rethink that!
Are you in a hotel or apartment? I am considering a hotel next time. Apartments are too hit and miss.
Instead of doing something like staying in an Hotel why don't you find out from some people on the board what apartments are good so it will not be hit or miss. It is ok to stay in an apartment if you are just going to go to Termas. But if you are going to be bringing girls to you place an Apartment is a must. The prefer the apartments, which mean they stay longer, which means you have more happy time!
If you need some apartment recommendations just send me a PM, I have a few guys that are solid and their apartments are all top notch.
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Be smart and try some different things
[QUOTE=Pune Fun]I will be visiting rio for first time,
I have seen a lot of reports on help disco, is it safe to pick gals from help.
How are help gals in term of service,whats the avg. price for night and any good girl friendly hotel near help disco.[/QUOTE]
Pure,
You will get as many different opinions on your questions as there are people on the board. There are those that never go to Help and there are those that only go to Help. You will have to go and try out all the different types of places and you will have a favorite of your own. Personally, I love Termas but I prefer Help or Barbarella. I prefer to spend the night with the girls because then I get more happy time.
My advice, for what it is worth, would be to try out a couple of nice Termas and go to Help and try that out. At Help, don't pick to early, never let them pick you, you pick them and make sure you negotiate up front for what you want. You will pick all the tricks of the trade with experience.
Happy Hunting
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I prefer hotels over apartments
[QUOTE=Bizzie]Are you serious? Pretty much everyone here favors an apartment over a hotel.[/QUOTE]
Well, I agree with Jamaicanceo, apartments in Rio are not to the standard that one would expect in a rich country. I prefer to stay in a very nice hotel or pousada and pay the girl's fee. In case of a problem with the girl ((which never happened to me), I feel safe because the front desk has her ID card, and checks out with me if all is well before she can have it back.
I would only consider an appartment if travelling with a bunch of male friends, and we rent a really luxury one of several thousand square feet.
B.B.
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Help
Hey guys,
Is Help still open, and whats the going rate these days?
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I Like the Augusto Hotel
Augusto Hotel is the one that I like. It is a block away from the subway station, has a fitness room, and is conveniently located a short distance from the beach. You can even walk to L'uomo if you are so inclined.
My daily routine comprised of waking up, working out, grabbing some juice and maybe a sandwich at the corner store and then heading to a terma.
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[QUOTE=Bimbo Boy]Well, I agree with Jamaicanceo, apartments in Rio are not to the standard that one would expect in a rich country. I prefer to stay in a very nice hotel or pousada and pay the girl's fee. In case of a problem with the girl ((which never happened to me), I feel safe because the front desk has her ID card, and checks out with me if all is well before she can have it back.
I would only consider an appartment if travelling with a bunch of male friends, and we rent a really luxury one of several thousand square feet.
B.B.[/QUOTE]
Well, I thought that a luxury apartment was implicit.
For the price of a nice hotel room, you can get equally nice or better, spacious, apartment, with security at the entrance who keep the GDPs ID card before entry. (I have doen that 3 times).
But I have stayed at the hotels as well and that was fine too (but cramped).
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[QUOTE=Bizzie]Well, I thought that a luxury apartment was implicit.
For the price of a nice hotel room, you can get equally nice or better, spacious, apartment, with security at the entrance who keep the GDPs ID card before entry. (I have doen that 3 times).
But I have stayed at the hotels as well and that was fine too (but cramped).[/QUOTE]
Ok, I know this isn't the forum for accommodations, but could you refer who you use?
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[QUOTE=Koolkid]I heard that the porn star who goes by the name darlene was available at 4x4 last year, not sure about luana, but I would imagine that she would be very busy if she worked the termas, because that bunda and body is just crazy![/QUOTE]Dude,
I think if I saw Darlene, and she was available, I would probably just pass out right there.
Rodeo
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Regarding the hotel question
My input: Nice hotels with the willingness to have decent ID checks etc are not in the heart of the action and the ones that are in or near won't allow guests. Aparthotels are the practical compromise between luxury hotel v pricing v amenities such as avail of rooms, linen, etc.
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Ryjerrob
Hey Rob,
Where is part 3 of the eagle-stories?
Carlos
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[QUOTE=Bizzie]Well, I thought that a luxury apartment was implicit.
For the price of a nice hotel room, you can get equally nice or better, spacious, apartment, with security at the entrance who keep the GDPs ID card before entry. (I have doen that 3 times).
But I have stayed at the hotels as well and that was fine too (but cramped).[/QUOTE]
If you're going to Rio for a mongering trip, there is going to be a bit of downtime, so I think an apartment is the better option. It's a place you can go back and chill, without the feeling of getting "cabin fever" that you might get being couped up in a hotel room after awhile. Staying at an apartment also gives the feeling of "living in Rio", which is pretty damn cool.
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[QUOTE=Dima25]Hey guys,
Is Help still open, and whats the going rate these days?[/QUOTE]Still open, and even remodeling inside. Putting in new stairs to upstairs near the stage area. Rates for girls are the same as always. R$100 and up, depending on looks, time and your skills for barganing.
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[quote=azn safado]if you're going to rio for a mongering trip, there is going to be a bit of downtime, so i think an apartment is the better option. it's a place you can go back and chill, without the feeling of getting "cabin fever" that you might get being couped up in a hotel room after awhile. staying at an apartment also gives the feeling of "living in rio", which is pretty damn cool.[/quote]
agree with you. but you may have to construct some creative web of lies for the people back home as to why you are staying in an apartment and not a hotel!
another advantage for me is that in an apartment, they can't reach me at all hours of the night.(like at 3 am when at helpee).
i tell them there are no landlines in rio apartments, 'cause everyone here uses only cell phones:) (i can screen those calls).
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Help is still open and price depends on so many variables.
the quality of the girl, the time of night, how many guys are competing for her, the level of attention she is getting, and finally how much she thinks she can take you for..
Most girls who do not have guys competing for her will go home with you for the night for R$150-R$200 if you seem nice enough, but most of the top end girls generally ask for R$500 and expect to be negotiated down to about R$250-R$300 in my experience.
The best thing to do is not ask, you tell. If you find a girl you like talk some bullshit with her, make sure your the one asking the questions.. dont let her follow you down that conversation path of "1. where are you staying 2. hotel or apartment 3. do you want to come home with me tonight 4. $myprice"
Buy her a drink which will calm her down by showing her your genuinely interested, use the length of how long it takes her to drink it to talk some bullshit then whisper something like "Ive got about $150 real left in my wallet, lets go back to my place"
[QUOTE=Dima25]Hey guys,
Is Help still open, and whats the going rate these days?[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Sehns]
The best thing to do is not ask, you tell. If you find a girl you like talk some bullshit with her, make sure your the one asking the questions.. dont let her follow you down that conversation path of "1. where are you staying 2. hotel or apartment 3. do you want to come home with me tonight 4. $myprice"
Buy her a drink which will calm her down by showing her your genuinely interested, use the length of how long it takes her to drink it to talk some bullshit then whisper something like "Ive got about $150 real left in my wallet, lets go back to my place"[/QUOTE]
Now there's a man with a good head for negotiation!
Hats off to the attitude. And it's not only more fun (for both parties) when you take the initiative but, if she insists on going into telesales mode you know she's too boring to bother with.
My only concern is the drinks bit. I'll buy chits that pay for beer or cola. If she has champagne tastes, she's not on. (note - in case any newbies missed it, he said real, not dollars. And if it's late in the night he'd probably maybe 'only have about 100R')
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mimosa by bus
i'd recommend [url="http://www.revver.com/video/359809/the-underbelly-of-rio-de-janeiro-vila-mimosa/"]this vid[/url] for one thing only - it gives you an idea of the run-up if go there on the bus. as you know, rj buses have only two speeds most of the time - bone-shattering highspeed and stop. so if you jump the bus to praca bandeira (where you need to get off for mimosa) you have to be pretty quick.
the camera is shot from inside a car as it goes along pres. vargas, over the flyover, and onto pr.bandeiras. you can see that the car goes up the flyover, passes under a higher flyover, and then down again. here the car pauses in order to get into the right hand lane in praca bandeira so as to make the turn off under the iron bridge.
if you get the bus, ring the bell as it mounts the flyover. if you leave it past that point you may miss your stop.
(apart from that it is pretty sh*te - it tags vm as "one of the most dangerous and decrepit places in rio de janeiro," drives round on what looks like a sunday morning when it's near deserted, then again at night but fails to spot any action, yet does catch a couple of guys being frisked).
for anyone not familiar with vm, probably best not to go by bus the first time. also the driver in the vid goes round the triangle anticlockwise to comply with the one way system - if you're walking, you'd probably go the other way, the way he leaves the triangle and back onto bandeira.
buses save you time and money unless it's rush hour. and also the grotty walk from the metro station in cristavao (or the confusing walk from the metro in alfonso pena.)
by way of apology to anyone who sat thru it, here's a couple of slightly more atmospheric ones i found in an idle moment ;)
[url="http://video.google.co.uk/videosearch?sourceid=navclient&ie=utf-8&hl=en-gb&rlz=1t4snyk_en-gbgb252gb252&q=vila+mimosa#"]video of mimosa stills (complete with western idiot-music, but ok pics)[/url] and
[url="http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=1421465445582047118&ei=nfllsyzhmab8ialb7dmjag&q=vila+mimosa&hl=en-gb"]noisy upstairs balcony - crap quality but atmospheric[/url]
[color=gray]whereas [url="http://video.google.co.uk/videosearch?q=mimosa&hl=un&emb=1#q=rooftop-tour-1%20&hl=un&emb=1"]this one[/url] has nothing to do with anything at all - maybe a tourist advert for florianopolis? (click the top left picture to save logging in heh heh) or [url="http://video.google.co.uk/videosearch?q=mimosa&hl=un&emb=1#q=crystal-tour-1%20&hl=un&emb=1"]this one[/url] for curitiba ;) ;)
ps hope this doesn't break isg policy - it's called stealing from greedyf*cks ;) [/color]
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L'uomo - Slow times
Stopped by L'uomo last night and have never seen it so slow this time of year. There were only about 12 guys there from 4-7. The dream team of Ingrid, Giselle and Nina are on vacation. Compared to other visits I would rate the talent a little above average, maybe a total of 20-25 girls.
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[QUOTE=Off Road]Still open, and even remodeling inside. Putting in new stairs to upstairs near the stage area. Rates for girls are the same as always. R$100 and up, depending on looks, time and your skills for barganing.[/QUOTE]
That´s about right. I was there last night for a couple of hours. Found a pyt that asked for R$200, I offered R$150, and she said yes.
ryjer
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The Eagle Has Landed (Part 3)
Sorry I´ve been a little laxed, but I have this girlfriend that keeps tabs on me.
Here we go....................went to 185 Rio Branco yeasterday after class. I thought it was Flavia Messages, but wrote down the wrong address. Apt. #1829. There only seemed to be 1 girl workng that I saw, but the buzzer kept ringng.
She was a cute little spinner named Bruna. She had acne, but a great body, complete with fake little titties. I paid R$70 for an hour. It was money well spent. The room had a double bed, air, and was clean. The sheets and towles came pre-wrapped. I would give the place an A, the girl a B.
I will repeat, I got her number.
ryjer
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New Places
I usually sit in the very back of the bus, on the left side. Yesterday, someone else was sittng there, so I sat on the right side. As the bus neared Laro do Machado, I saw this sign on a pink doorway that said clube...........hmmmmmmmmmm. I wonder what that is?
I got off the bus, and it was a little dark casa up a fliight of stairs. It was a little was, and dark, but the beer was cold, and the pussy warm.
156 Rua Benito Lisboa.
I did two different girls. Thier names are unimportant. Rate were as follows:
15minutes R$30
30minutes R$50
40minutes R$70
1hour R$100
I saw this 8 come into the place wearing her street clothes. She was fine as hell. Unfortunately she had a shitty attitude. She didn´t drink or smoke. HOw can I trust a girl working in a casa who dosen´t do any of those things. My goal is to do all the girls working there. After the beach today, I´m going back.........
ryjer
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[QUOTE=Exec Talent]Stopped by L'uomo last night and have never seen it so slow this time of year. There were only about 12 guys there from 4-7. The dream team of Ingrid, Giselle and Nina are on vacation. Compared to other visits I would rate the talent a little above average, maybe a total of 20-25 girls.[/QUOTE]
That's what I heard!!! Had a Amigo just get back & said the talent there wasn't to his liking!!! Not the same vibe either! But Exec Talent, He was impressed by a young & talent in Solarium.....
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Monte Carlo A+++
Thought I would give L'uomo another chance tonight. Again about 12 guys and only 20 girls. Good news was Ingrid is back and looking as fine as ever. Bad news is, she was pretty much it.
They must have made some kind of off season trade with MC, because when I arrived there I could not believe my eyes. In November/December I did not even bother with the place, now it is the place to be. There were 50-60 girls working and yes, some of the girls with huge butts remain, but there are a number of very fine new girls working. Extremely impressive was the variety. Blondes, fairskinned brunettes, mulattas, and even a few very dark girls. Some were new to the business others came from Centaurus. During the time I was there about 40 guys were in the house, many Brazilian. The music was all Brazilian which was nice for a change.
I will still visit L'uomo but if you are coming to Rio and avoided MC before, you have no reason now.
Do be aware that prices have increased. Entrance is still R$60 (I belong to the frequent visitor club and got in free), cabine is still R$60 but the girl's fee is now R$150 up from R$120 previously. This may be the reason that the best girls now are there.
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Is Help Closing? Rio Changing?
I have heard numerous reports from a thread on The World Sex Guide forum that Help Club is closing in March at the latest. Seems the Brazilian government may be changing it's attitude and policies toward the GDP's and customers.
Also, How will this effect the Termas if Help goes out are they next?
I have heard that the brazilian government is spending millions on a advertising and ad campaign in Europe and other countries warning tourists not to travel to Brazil for sex. Seems Spain had a "problem" with Brazillian GDP's in their county and now it opened Pandoras Box and they (Brazil) is trying to clean up their Image into Not being the"South American Thailand. "
I have also heard stories about beaches in Brazil forbidding GDP's to "work" the beaches and some beaches have been emptied because of the governments attitude toward this.
I was planning my first trip to Rio cause I thought it would be the coolest place on Earth to Monger for Bunda, but may have a change of mind if Help closes and the government attitude/climate cracks down on the GDPs and their customers and the country as a whole loses their appetite for "tourists". I may take my 2nd trip back to a more open arms climate in Thailand if this is the new attitude brewing.
Any intel or report on this depressing developing issue? Or is it just a rumor?
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[QUOTE=Exec Talent]Thought I would give L'uomo another chance tonight. Again about 12 guys and only 20 girls. Good news was Ingrid is back and looking as fine as ever. Bad news is, she was pretty much it.
They must have made some kind of off season trade with MC, because when I arrived there I could not believe my eyes. In November/December I did not even bother with the place, now it is the place to be. There were 50-60 girls working and yes, some of the girls with huge butts remain, but there are a number of very fine new girls working. Extremely impressive was the variety. Blondes, fairskinned brunettes, mulattas, and even a few very dark girls. Some were new to the business others came from Centaurus.[/QUOTE]
Another similar report from my Amigo that just got back..... Luomos was dissappointing & Monte Carlo was the place to be....
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Let me take this guys
[QUOTE=Joe Greek]I have heard numerous reports from a thread on The World Sex Guide forum that Help Club is closing in March at the latest. Seems the Brazilian government may be changing it's attitude and policies toward the GDP's and customers.
Also, How will this effect the Termas if Help goes out are they next?
I have heard that the brazilian government is spending millions on a advertising and ad campaign in Europe and other countries warning tourists not to travel to Brazil for sex. Seems Spain had a "problem" with Brazillian GDP's in their county and now it opened Pandoras Box and they (Brazil) is trying to clean up their Image into Not being the"South American Thailand. "
I have also heard stories about beaches in Brazil forbidding GDP's to "work" the beaches and some beaches have been emptied because of the governments attitude toward this.
I was planning my first trip to Rio cause I thought it would be the coolest place on Earth to Monger for Bunda, but may have a change of mind if Help closes and the government attitude/climate cracks down on the GDPs and their customers and the country as a whole loses their appetite for "tourists". I may take my 2nd trip back to a more open arms climate in Thailand if this is the new attitude brewing.
Any intel or report on this depressing developing issue? Or is it just a rumor?[/QUOTE]
Joe
Stop worrying and go ahead with your plans. Nothing has changed so far and is not likely to change in the near future.
Only rumours. Just ignore them and start worrying about the weather only.
It was bloody raining almost every day during last November that I was there.
The other Greek
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Something Fishy About This Post
[QUOTE=Joe Greek]I have heard numerous reports from a thread on The World Sex Guide forum that Help Club is closing in March at the latest. Seems the Brazilian government may be changing it's attitude and policies toward the GDP's and customers.
Also, How will this effect the Termas if Help goes out are they next?
I have heard that the brazilian government is spending millions on a advertising and ad campaign in Europe and other countries warning tourists not to travel to Brazil for sex. Seems Spain had a "problem" with Brazillian GDP's in their county and now it opened Pandoras Box and they (Brazil) is trying to clean up their Image into Not being the"South American Thailand. "
I have also heard stories about beaches in Brazil forbidding GDP's to "work" the beaches and some beaches have been emptied because of the governments attitude toward this.
I was planning my first trip to Rio cause I thought it would be the coolest place on Earth to Monger for Bunda, but may have a change of mind if Help closes and the government attitude/climate cracks down on the GDPs and their customers and the country as a whole loses their appetite for "tourists". I may take my 2nd trip back to a more open arms climate in Thailand if this is the new attitude brewing.
Any intel or report on this depressing developing issue? Or is it just a rumor?[/QUOTE]Is it possible that this poster, "Joe Greek", is a propagandist? Something about the wording of his question seems some what suspicious to me.
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In copacabana today and did the MC thing and it was great, yeah about 50-60 nice looking chicas, all shapes sizes and hues. Something for everyone. And believe me prices were much better than Southern Brazil!
After dinner at Mondego that amazingly was empty! Walked off the food up to Help . It's open as usual and the girls were all out there chillin.
Mostly the usual crowd, chiclets lady, couple big butt amazoas! And a few new cuties.
Didn't go in save it for another evening, but it does seem slow, very slow
Bert
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Oh Yeah
[QUOTE=Funkignitor]Was there a lot of girls with black hair and white skin?[/QUOTE]
Plenty, and, everything else too. Truly impressive. Monte Carlo had a totally different feel from visits past. As best as I can describe it is the comfort you get in a good Chinese restaurant when most of the customers are Chinese.
I had heard L'uomo was supposed to be catering more to the Brazilians and I did see more for awhile, but now it is mostly tourists and the music reflects that. MC felt like I had walked into an upscale Brazilian termas, without the Centaurus attitude and without the frat party atmosphere of 4x4 (though there was one Brazilian guy sporting the towel around the waist, bare chest look).
If anything, there were too many girls. For my part, if they got rid of the girls with the really huge butts (sorry if that is your type), the place would be perfect. The recepionists are nice, the change room woman (Nina, I believe) is sweet and the shower room facilities exceptional.
Unlike in times past where I almost had the feeling that I am in a Rio termas and must go with someone, there were a lot of very good options.
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[QUOTE=Exec Talent]Plenty, and, everything else too. Truly impressive. Monte Carlo had a totally different feel from visits past. As best as I can describe it is the comfort you get in a good Chinese restaurant when most of the customers are Chinese.
I had heard L'uomo was supposed to be catering more to the Brazilians and I did see more for awhile, but now it is mostly tourists and the music reflects that. MC felt like I had walked into an upscale Brazilian termas, without the Centaurus attitude and without the frat party atmosphere of 4x4 (though there was one Brazilian guy sporting the towel around the waist, bare chest look).
If anything, there were too many girls. For my part, if they got rid of the girls with the really huge butts (sorry if that is your type), the place would be perfect. The recepionists are nice, the change room woman (Nina, I believe) is sweet and the shower room facilities exceptional.
Unlike in times past where I almost had the feeling that I am in a Rio termas and must go with someone, there were a lot of very good options.[/QUOTE]In regards to 4x4 the frat party atmosphere is in my opinion the only downside to a great terma.
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[QUOTE=Exec Talent]Plenty, and, everything else too. Truly impressive. Monte Carlo had a totally different feel from visits past. As best as I can describe it is the comfort you get in a good Chinese restaurant when most of the customers are Chinese.
I had heard L'uomo was supposed to be catering more to the Brazilians and I did see more for awhile, but now it is mostly tourists and the music reflects that. MC felt like I had walked into an upscale Brazilian termas, without the Centaurus attitude and without the frat party atmosphere of 4x4 (though there was one Brazilian guy sporting the towel around the waist, bare chest look).
If anything, there were too many girls. For my part, if they got rid of the girls with the really huge butts (sorry if that is your type), the place would be perfect. The recepionists are nice, the change room woman (Nina, I believe) is sweet and the shower room facilities exceptional.
Unlike in times past where I almost had the feeling that I am in a Rio termas and must go with someone, there were a lot of very good options.[/QUOTE]When I was at Monte Carlo in December, it was better than my trip in March. As you described those girls were of great quality in looks. After my session, I stayed to closing and was the only guy. There girls, about 15, were all either 10s or close. Outside of Ingrid, Luomo was no where close.
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[QUOTE=Exec Talent]If anything, there were too many girls. For my part, if they got rid of the girls with the really huge butts (sorry if that is your type), the place would be perfect.[/QUOTE]Man, thats why I'm heading to Rio for the huge butts...lol, But are their certain termas that cater for the huge butt lovers or is there a mix in every
terma.
Thanks
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rio weather
[QUOTE=El Greco]start worrying about the weather only. It was bloody raining almost every day during last November that I was there.[/QUOTE]
This is the main upgrade I've made to my plans recently. Rain in Rio can be anything from inconvenient to a bloody pain.
2 main areas for me:
1) Transport.
Have had this one figured for a while now, since a time when I bought expensive concert tickets and wound up with not a hope in hell of using them. When it rains in Rio, the city slips from it's '3rd world pretending to be a 1st world' kinda fast - like a water-slide ending up in a six inch flood. The one stopping you from even crossing the road to the supermarket. Traffic on major routes has the function of keeping you less wet rather than getting you any place at all. Everything's gridlocked.
Ways round this are:
i) for pussy and most everything else, get home deliveries. I try to have the phone numbers of some local good-value girls I've seen once already, that live walking distance, will make staying indoors a joy, and won't charge the earth. If she's travelling by any means other than Metro or on foot, bear in mind the weather can occasion up to several hours delay. If you don't know how to order pizza, ask her when she arrives.
ii) for planning purposes, have fall-back options in your diary in case the weather hits bad. If you have to travel to a venue at a certain time, get there very early and go for a meal or something while you wait. Because of Rio's almost inbuilt unreliability, I tend to have at least one or two fallback options for every day. This is also important if you've arranged to meet a buddy in a different area - things won't always go to plan.
2) Clothing
This is a biggie for me. I like to have the freedom to get around. Rio cannot afaik sell you trainers that are lightweight, waterproof and won't make your feet hot. The mucky option says wear havaianas and let the mud wash off the way it washed on, but I don't always wanna do that. Likewise light, packable waterproof jacket and trousers that don't look totally geekish. You can now get all of these items from a good technical-clothing store, the sort of places that cater to adventurers and serious outdoor sport enthusiasts. I tried my latest outfit in monsoon conditions in Asia and was pretty comfy while everyone else did their drowned hamster impressions.
Good luck. There's more to Rio than good weather (but grab the beach sun days when they come!!)
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[QUOTE= Joe Greek]
Originally Posted by Joe Greek
I have heard numerous reports from a thread on The World Sex Guide forum that Help Club is closing in March at the latest. Seems the Brazilian government may be changing it's attitude and policies toward the GDP's and customers.
Also, How will this effect the Termas if Help goes out are they next?
I have heard that the brazilian government is spending millions on a advertising and ad campaign in Europe and other countries warning tourists not to travel to Brazil for sex. Seems Spain had a "problem" with Brazillian GDP's in their county and now it opened Pandoras Box and they (Brazil) is trying to clean up their Image into Not being the"South American Thailand. "
I have also heard stories about beaches in Brazil forbidding GDP's to "work" the beaches and some beaches have been emptied because of the governments attitude toward this.
I was planning my first trip to Rio cause I thought it would be the coolest place on Earth to Monger for Bunda, but may have a change of mind if Help closes and the government attitude/climate cracks down on the GDPs and their customers and the country as a whole loses their appetite for "tourists". I may take my 2nd trip back to a more open arms climate in Thailand if this is the new attitude brewing.
Any intel or report on this depressing developing issue? Or is it just a rumor? [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Jamaicanceo]Is it possible that this poster, "Joe Greek", is a propagandist? Something about the wording of his question seems some what suspicious to me.[/QUOTE]
Joe Greek's post is an accurate portrayal of an opinionated report on the other site. Joe is right to seek other views on the subject.
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Flavia Messages
Info to follow.................
Due to my getting confused the other day, I missed this place. But I just called, and am a little excited. The cool thing about this place is that if the pics are photo shopped, I'll know right away.
Do yourself a favor, check out the site and guess which ones I'm gonna be bangin' in about 20 minutes....................I'm thinking Lana..........damn, I'd eat corn outta her shit...............
[url]http://www.flaviamassagens.com.br/[/url]
see ya in an hour or so........
ryjer
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Gross
[QUOTE=Ryjerrob] I'm thinking Lana..........damn, I'd eat corn outta her shit...............
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So much for eating lunch while reading this forum.
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Help Closing? Rio Changing?
[QUOTE=El Greco]Joe
Stop worrying and go ahead with your plans. Nothing has changed so far and is not likely to change in the near future.
Only rumours. Just ignore them and start worrying about the weather only.
It was bloody raining almost every day during last November that I was there.
The other Greek[/QUOTE]El Greco,
I will most probably go with the plans anyway. I'm sure if Help does close there will be other clubs ready to fill the power vacuum. Still, I'm not convinced about the Help club is not closing as it seems that numerous reports from senior members from World Sex Guide web site, that have spent much time in Help and talked to the owners, (I hear there are several), and the GDP's there say, that the Rumors Are true. So, as long as the Termas stay open, I'm going to Bunda Heaven! What time of the year are most of the GDP's working there? Is there a slow vs best time to go?
Joe Greek
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Flavia Massages
Do I understand well ?
35 euro one hour of sex with one of these girls ? BBBJ and Anal if not included for how much ?
Where exactly is this place ?
Ryjerrob waiting for your report about Lana ;)
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Rio de Janeiro
Here is my experience in Rio de Janeiro. The stories from other members of the ISG helped me a lot of finding my way and not wasting whole lot time finding the garotas.
I took the trip from December 10, 2008 to Rio de Janeiro on my way to Campo Grande, MS, Brazil then coming back to US. I found the $698 round trip fare from cheaptickets.com from JFK New York to Washington, DC then to Rio de Janeiro. I left Rio on December 15 on my way to Campo Grande. On December 31, 2008 I left Campo Grande and returned to New York on next day.
On December 10, I lost the 11pm flight from the Washington, DC to Rio due to the delay of the incoming flight from JFK. So I had to wait another day and arrived next morning at International Airport in Rio on Friday, December 12, 2008.
Clearing for immigration and custom was a breeze as I only had carried on luggage. Instead of taking taxi, I ventured into taking Real Bus into Copacabana. The trip cost me 7 Real (about 2 dollars) and the bus dropped me off in front of Rio Othon Palace Hotel. I checked in as two guests. I told the hotel receptionist I will provide the name of other guest later on. The room price was $145 per night. I was booked on 24th floor overlooking Sugar Loaf and Copacabana beach. It was a paradise and I was ready for action.
About 4pm, I walked over the City Bank ATM on Ave. Copacabana and drew some cash out. Somehow it was the only bank that accepted by BofA card. After that I walked over to L’uomo MP on Siqueira Campos street. I didn’t know exactly where it was so I asked for the direction. Many Brazilians did not know where it was and one guy told me to go up the stairs on blue fenced gate about a block away. I found the gate and went upstairs and the guy at the reception desk gave me the locker key and a towel. The atmosphere was funny. So I asked the clerk that before changing clothes I wanted to check out the place. He said fine so I went into the club and saw loads of naked men wrapped around with towel in their waist but did not see a single female. I said "where’s the girls? " and the clerk told me that it was a gay club and L’uomo is on the second floor crossed the street. I ran like a hell out of this place.
I went into the building crossed the street and found the escalator to second floor. A woman at the L’uomo reception told me the entrance fee and one hour session were 60 and 260 Reals respectively. I took the key and changed into bath robe at the locker and went for action. There were about 15 garotas at the lounge and about 5 guys. I ordered a shot of Jack Daniel and Coke. A hot garota (8) came over and started chit chat. She was 23 but I don’t remember her name. My little Portuguese skill helped in conversation. She called me "Safado" and rubbed my inner thigh and it became hard and ready. We agreed for one hour session and went into the room where it had a small bed and shower. The chick had a firm body and lavishing perereca. She immediately started BJ on me as I fondled her pussy. We started with mission and finished with a doggy style. The experience was WOW! I bid farewell to her and paid the bill at the counter and took a taxi back to hotel.
About 7pm I went to eat at Meia Pataca right front of the hotel facing the beach. The food wasn’t great but it was the place for the mongering as it was located near the Help. The movement was slow because Help was closed for the weekend and it may have something to do with Madonna’s concert. There were about 10 garotas moving around the restaurant looking for a client. I tried not to pay too much attention as I was eating. As I was leaving Meia Ptaca, I bumped into a blond at the door. She was obviously a working girl and asked if I wanted a company. I was bored so I said OK and offered her a drink. She was about 8 and had a nice personality. Her name was Kesia. I asked bluntly for the TLN price and she reluctantly wrote on the paper 300 Reals which I agreed. I checked her into my hotel without any additional charge. It was a smart decision to check in as two guests instead of one.
In the hotel, we banged on the bed, at the sliding door overlooking Sugar Loaf, doggy style, etc. This girl was energetic and enthusiastic. After extensive banging she wanted to show me around the Rio at night. About 10pm we took a taxi to a club where hundreds of Brazilians girls and boys gather around to drink, eat and dance. I forgot the name of this place. After that about 1am she took me to a swing club where couples are switching partners. The place was dimly lit but I could see the actions. There were many rooms with mirrors on the walls and the ceilings. People were banging like the rabbits everywhere. Kesia wanted to be banged at the club but I didn’t make it for I was so exhausted. About 3am we came back to hotel and slept spoon naked. We woke up late in the morning and banged passionately. We then ate the breakfast on the third floor. I asked her to comeback later in that evening to show me around more of Rio for the same price. She agreed and we were separated with a kiss.
About 4pm I went to Centaurus at Rua Canning, Ipanema for MP action. At the reception I paid 120 Real entrance fee and changed into bath robe. In the lounge I saw about ten garotas and no client. A attractive brunette came over and we talked. I forgot her name and she was 20 year old studying to become phys-ed teacher. She had a great firm body so I took her to a room for an hour. I had to pay upfront fee for the session and it was whopping 500 Reals. It was expensive but I paid anyway for the experience and it was worth it. It was one of the best bang I ever had. I tried many positions with her and she was very enthusiastic.
Although there are more stories to tell I am going to stop now about Rio. At Campo Grande I have rented a boat for three day ecotourism with ten Brazilian guys. While going up and down the Taquari river in Pantanal region, about 10 garotas were invited on the boat. And we banged day and night while drinking beer and fishing. I had a great time and I could write a book about that. Viva Brazil!
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The Eagle Has Landed (Part 4)
Here we go..............................
Finally made it Flavia Massagem, and it was interesting. It was obvious I was American by the way I spoke Portuguese. Fuck it. I rang the bell and entered the apt./office. In the waiting area were about 7 girls, all waiting for a customer. These were´t the girls from the website. Shit, and double shit. So I sat an listened to them talk after being told it would be eagout 5-10 minutes.
I was then taken to the 1st room were each girl proceeded to enter one at a time and introduce themselves. It was like being a cottage cheese convention. WTF????????????? The 2nd to last girl was Jacolina, I was sold. At least I thought I thought |I was, until Danella entered wearing only a towel.........................sold, to the American for R$70. Time frame, 30 minutes.
No bbbj, and when I pushed my finger in her ass, she said no. There was no massage, but the straight sex was decent. She had a decent attitude, and the place was clean. I showered before and after. Nothing special. and no massage. She was probably an 8. The others were about 5-6. Yes, photo shop is a motherfucker.
Feeling really motivated, I headed to sardine alley where it was happy hour. I watched the crowd and had a few beers. I wasn´t ready to go home yet, and wanted a quickie. So I got off the bus at my new found haunt in Largo do Marchado.
I had already done 2 girls there with decent results for the price of R$30 for 15 minutes. There were about 15 girls and about 10 guys. I had a shitty seat. The girl I mentioned before that had a bad attitude the other night tried to chat me up, but I was a little cold towards her. Then about 9 guys entered together.
I then took Thalita from the other day for 15 minutes. It was hot sweaty sex. I tried to go as far as I could inside her. She said the usual stuff trying to get me off, but I had 15 minutes. After about 12 minutes, I droped my load.
I went back to the bar where it was cooler with the fans going, and had a beer. There was this really skinny black girl that I had talked with my first night. I had told her I would take her the next time. She was just too skinny. I still remembered that girl fromk MP that was a waste of time and money.
This skinny little thing fucked me like it was her job............ok, yeah, it was her job, but she took it all in. She was a little worried when she broke the first condom trying to put it on me. This pyt really put it on me!!!!!!!!!!!! And I don´t mean the condom. When she licked my balls, my dick went into overtime!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I did manage to get her number. Hell. for her half of the R$30, why shouldn´t she make plans on the outside.
I´m headed to Rio Scenarium tonight, and my girlfriend might come along. If she dosen´t, then I´ll try to get luck with a women there or one of the many women from the language school I´m attending.
As for Flavia Massage, I´d go back to do the girl Jacolina, maybe. I cheap spot, everyday on my way home.
I´ll keep you guys informed..........
ryjer
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[QUOTE=Lukasek]Do I understand well ?
35 euro one hour of sex with one of these girls ? BBBJ and Anal if not included for how much ?
Where exactly is this place ?
Ryjerrob waiting for your report about Lana ;)[/QUOTE]
R$70 for 30 minutes
Rua Rio Branco 181, Apt. #1006
Didn´t get anal, but tried finger penetration, and was denied. Need to ask in advance.
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[QUOTE=Exec Talent]So much for eating lunch while reading this forum.[/QUOTE]
EAT SOME PUSSY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Termas 176
[QUOTE=Ryjerrob]I usually sit in the very back of the bus, on the left side. Yesterday, someone else was sittng there, so I sat on the right side. As the bus neared Laro do Machado, I saw this sign on a pink doorway that said clube...........hmmmmmmmmmm. I wonder what that is?
I got off the bus, and it was a little dark casa up a fliight of stairs. It was a little was, and dark, but the beer was cold, and the pussy warm.
156 Rua Benito Lisboa.
I did two different girls. Thier names are unimportant. Rate were as follows:
15minutes R$30
30minutes R$50
40minutes R$70
1hour R$100
I saw this 8 come into the place wearing her street clothes. She was fine as hell. Unfortunately she had a shitty attitude. She didn´t drink or smoke. HOw can I trust a girl working in a casa who dosen´t do any of those things. My goal is to do all the girls working there. After the beach today, I´m going back.........
ryjer[/QUOTE]
I actually reported on 176 a while back, but no one on here ever followed up on it. But a few years ago, a 15 minute session was only R20, and that was with a 3:1 exchange rate!
I think this is the same place you're talking about. Nice to see someone enjoying Termas 176. I lived in Largo de Machado for a brief period in 2005 and would always hit this place up.
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Monte Carlo Promotion - Save R$60 on Tuesdays
A couple of ways you can save money when visiting MC.
You can save R$60 on Tuesdays by going to MC's website and giving them a valid e-mail. They will send you an e-mail which you need to print out and take with you. If you are in Rio you can do this at an internet cafe. This will give you a cabine (R$60) for free.
[url]http://www.termasmontecarlo.com.br/promocao/terca.php[/url]
They also have a frequent visitors program. You will need to give them some basic information to sign up (doesn't have to be true) and they will take your finger print with a device which is used for identification each time you enter. Once you've spent R$500 (not sure if this is the current amount) you will get a free entrance.
BTW, there is a girl with braces who is a dead ringer for a young Anne Heche (but cuter and not lesbian) if this is anyone's fantasy.
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I am in Rio now, i will try to take advantage of this offer. thx!!
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Staying in Copacabana today and two prior days, on my way to Juiz De Fora tonite.
I went to MC yesterday and the day before, great selection almost 50 girls there on Thursday.
Went with a real nice cutie that was a dead ringer for the tween love interest in american beauty. She mentioned she'd heard that but wasn't familiar with the girl, very nice blow/wo, vag/anal-w, CIM, ball tongue wash
After she just kept stroking my nuts to see if ahe might coax some more action. Very enticing indeed
Friday went back to see another stunner that passed on the way to the room, very sweet euro looking blonde (quite the germanic angelic face)
If a little plump. Good action highly recommended (marselle)
Bert
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What's Wrong With Lesbians?
[QUOTE=Exec Talent]
BTW, there is a girl with braces who is a dead ringer for a young Anne Heche (but cuter and not lesbian) if this is anyone's fantasy.[/QUOTE]
I thought a lot of the girls in a termas were lesbians. I love the termas; therefore, I love lesbians! lol
btw, Anne Heche may not be straight but she is not a lesbian - she was married for the last 7 years and is living with a guy now.
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[QUOTE=The Watcher]I thought a lot of the girls in a termas were lesbians. I love the termas; therefore, I love lesbians! lol
btw, Anne Heche may not be straight but she is not a lesbian - she was married for the last 7 years and is living with a guy now.[/QUOTE]Men are lesbian too. I prefer sex with women and not men. Therefore, I am a a lesbian.
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Language School
[QUOTE=Ryjerrob]Here we go.
Finally made it Flavia Massagem, and it was interesting. It was obvious I was American by the way I spoke Portuguese. Fuck it. I rang the bell and entered the apt. /office. In the waiting area were about 7 girls, all waiting for a customer. These were't the girls from the website. Shit, and double shit. So I sat an listened to them talk after being told it would be eagout 5-10 minutes.
I was then taken to the 1st room were each girl proceeded to enter one at a time and introduce themselves. It was like being a cottage cheese convention. WTF? The 2nd to last girl was Jacolina, I was sold. At least I thought I thought |I was, until Danella entered wearing only a towel. Sold, to the American for R$70. Time frame, 30 minutes.
No BBBJ, and when I pushed my finger in her ass, she said no. There was no massage, but the straight sex was decent. She had a decent attitude, and the place was clean. I showered before and after. Nothing special. And no massage. She was probably an 8. The others were about 5-6. Yes, photo shop is a motherfucker.
Feeling really motivated, I headed to sardine alley where it was happy hour. I watched the crowd and had a few beers. I wasn't ready to go home yet, and wanted a quickie. So I got off the bus at my new found haunt in Largo do Marchado.
I had already done 2 girls there with decent results for the price of R$30 for 15 minutes. There were about 15 girls and about 10 guys. I had a shitty seat. The girl I mentioned before that had a bad attitude the other night tried to chat me up, but I was a little cold towards her. Then about 9 guys entered together.
I then took Thalita from the other day for 15 minutes. It was hot sweaty sex. I tried to go as far as I could inside her. She said the usual stuff trying to get me off, but I had 15 minutes. After about 12 minutes, I droped my load.
I went back to the bar where it was cooler with the fans going, and had a beer. There was this really skinny black girl that I had talked with my first night. I had told her I would take her the next time. She was just too skinny. I still remembered that girl fromk MP that was a waste of time and money.
This skinny little thing fucked me like it was her job. Ok, yeah, it was her job, but she took it all in. She was a little worried when she broke the first condom trying to put it on me. This pyt really put it on me! And I don't mean the condom. When she licked my balls, my dick went into overtime! I did manage to get her number. Hell. For her half of the R$30, why shouldn't she make plans on the outside.
I'm headed to Rio Scenarium tonight, and my girlfriend might come along. If she dosen't, then I'll try to get luck with a women there or one of the many women from the language school I'm attending.
As for Flavia Massage, I'd go back to do the girl Jacolina, maybe. I cheap spot, everyday on my way home.
I'll keep you guys informed.
Ryjer[/QUOTE]Can you give me some information on the school and the prices?
Thanks
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[QUOTE=Ezinho]I actually reported on 176 a while back, but no one on here ever followed up on it. But a few years ago, a 15 minute session was only R20, and that was with a 3:1 exchange rate!
I think this is the same place you're talking about. Nice to see someone enjoying Termas 176. I lived in Largo de Machado for a brief period in 2005 and would always hit this place up.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, that´s the place. I´ve done 3 different girls there, and hope to do the majority. It´s on the way back from centro. This is a great place for a quickie.
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Not that there is anything wrong with that
[QUOTE=The Watcher]I thought a lot of the girls in a termas were lesbians. I love the termas; therefore, I love lesbians! lol
btw, Anne Heche may not be straight but she is not a lesbian - she was married for the last 7 years and is living with a guy now.[/QUOTE]
Did not say that there was anything wrong with that. I used to have lesbian friends (one whom had been married) who when they were looking for the real thing used to give me a call. The one who was married was so fond of me she introduced me to her sister.
As for Anne, who knows. Interviews I have read says she doesn't even know. I did ask the girl who looks like her and she said she was not lesbian. Tight little body and definitely worth seeking out. Unfortunately, her name escapes me.
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Can it be that I'm not the only one that has always felt I was a lesbian... trapped in a man's body? It's so good to know I'm not the only one.
KT
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[QUOTE=Peterstud]
Instead of taking taxi, I ventured into taking Real Bus into Copacabana. The trip cost me 7 Real (about 2 dollars) and the bus dropped me off in front of Rio Othon Palace Hotel. I checked in as two guests. I told the hotel receptionist I will provide the name of other guest later on. The room price was $145 per night. I was booked on 24th floor overlooking Sugar Loaf and Copacabana beach. It was a paradise and I was ready for action.
...I checked her into my hotel without any additional charge. It was a smart decision to check in as two guests instead of one.
Although there are more stories to tell I am going to stop now about Rio. At Campo Grande I have rented a boat for three day ecotourism with ten Brazilian guys. While going up and down the Taquari river in Pantanal region, about 10 garotas were invited on the boat. And we banged day and night while drinking beer and fishing. I had a great time and I could write a book about that. Viva Brazil!
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Great report Peter!
I will also be staying at the Rio Othon Palace during Carnaval and it is reassuring that a) you were allowed to bring your garota at the hotel and b) without extra charge! Did they give you any hard time at reception when you showed up with your girl?
Also, I would be interested in getting more info on your boat trip in the Pantanal so please tell me-us more about how you managed to make that happen.
Thanks.
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[QUOTE=Khun Talung]Can it be that I'm not the only one that has always felt I was a lesbian... trapped in a man's body? It's so good to know I'm not the only one.
KT[/QUOTE]I think we all here qualify to be lesbians.
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Imobiliaria ?!
[QUOTE=Poturu]...I like to spend around 50-60 american $ every day (for 10 days)....[/QUOTE]
I have the same problem, as I contacted 3 rental agency and still no answer, I guess in high season they do not care too much about who is looking for a budget flat.
However, a question for the more experienced here, is it a bad idea to stay in hotel a couple of days and go directly to rental agency, imobiliaria ?, to see live what they have to offer ? I guess it should be cheaper or same money for better location and/or bigger flat.
Anybody has adress of such as these agency in Copa ?
Thanks so much...
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Part 5?
Looking forward to part 5 of your Eagle Has Landed Series, Ryjjerrob.
Termas Time
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Anne Heche
[QUOTE=Exec Talent]Tight little body and definitely worth seeking out. Unfortunately, her name escapes me.[/QUOTE]
I hope she doesn't escape me when I return in March!
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Boat rental in Rio
Anyone know of any companies/individuals in Rio from whom I could rent/charter a nice sized boat for the day or half a day? Looking for something that could fit 6-8 people. If the boat owner has to Captain the boat that's fine, otherwise, if I can rent and pilot it on my own, that would be ideal. Departing in 2 days.
Thanks!
Rodeo
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Rio de Janeiro vs. Pattaya
rio de janeiro vs. pattaya
having just completed my first ever trip to pattaya, i thought it might be helpful for the monger community to get a comparison of the worlds two most famous mongering destinations.
just a few words of background. i love rio and brazilian women and have been to the marvellous city many times over the years. i speak portuguese which also makes a big difference. so my conclusion was never in doubt, but i will try to give a fair, albeit it, personal comparison.
my holidays are on relatively high budgets, so the conclusions are based on a fairly good budget.
the two cities
rio is probably one of the most beautiful cities in the world with a great combination of beaches, mountains, forests etc. traffic is bad, but the city has a good metro system and taxis are available very easily.
pattaya is not as nice as rio, but still has a beach (but nobody was swimming in the water). it is very build-up and i felt it was quite crowded. traffic is ok, and baht busses are readily available.
winner: rio
safety
i never felt unsafe in pattaya and it seems to have a good safety reputation.
rio is known to be an unsafe city with a very high murder rate. personally, i have never had problems in rio as i take my precautions.
winner: pattaya
non-mongering activities
pattaya has very good sporting activities available at very good prices. these include diving, golf, [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord117][CodeWord117][/url] etc. this is less easy to find in rio.
rio has excellent sightseeing tours, including the statue of christ and sugarloaf mountain to name a few. pattaya seemed to have less interesting tour options.
winner: depends on your preferences.
food
both cities have very good local food available a reasonable prices. i like both thai and brazilian food so for my detail regular meals both cities have good options.
there are a number of very good restaurants in rio with high-end international cuisine. these include satyricon, antequarius, fasano etc. i did not find high end international restaurants in pattaya.
winner: depends on food preference – mine is rio due to the high end restaurants.
non-pro nightlife
when in rio i sometimes like to take a night off (from the professional ladies) and go to a regular club. there are many good clubs with local clients only where you can have a great time. on some occasions you might even end up with non-pro for the night.
in pattaya there are so many foreingnes and prostitution is more widespread than in rio. this also means that most if not all clubs with have foreigners and local pros in their audience.
brazilian music in pretty good and i have even come to like to bailefunk party music – whereas i have heard enough thai techno music to last me a lifetime.
winner: rio
prices
generally speaking most, if not all things, are cheaper in pattaya.
apples to apples you get more for your dollars, euros …. in pattaya than in rio. this includes hotels, food, entertaining, women …
lunch:
thai food: 250baht (app. u$7)
brazilian kilograma: 35 reals (u$15)
two girl party:
pattaya (hell club): 3600baht for 90 minutes (u$100)
rio (centaurus): 800 reals for 60 minutes (u$355)
both places are, imho, the cities finest.
good local hotel:
pattaya: 2500 baht (u$72)
rio: u$130
i usually set a budget for my trips. i could not spend my whole budget in pattaya as it is quite cheap. on the other hand i have never been able to stay on budget in rio.
winner: pattaya
women
brazilian women come in all shape, sizes and colours – you can pretty much find all types of women in rio. thai women come in two shapes and sizes – small and very small.
to be perfectly honest it is not even a close call, brazilian women are far more attractive to me than thai women.
thai women are very nice and treat you very well if they like you. the lady i had last night would not allow me to get off the couch to get a beer, she always went to get it for me.
brasilian women are not quite like that, but they are still great company.
winner: rio
sex
again, not even a close call. brazilian women are great in bed, probably the best in world. thai womens sexual skills pale in comparison.
i have had so much great sex in brazil that i have stopped counting ….the best sex i had in pattaya does not even make it to my top50 sessions.
brazilian women are much more into sex and can genuinely provide a great gfe even if they have never met you before. brazilian women are also more sexually demanding – you will get a long way with them if you can really make the come.
winner: rio
will i go back?
…to pattaya: probably not, thai women does not really do it for me.
…to rio: every year till the day i die ( which i hope will be at an old age and in bed with 5 exhausted 19 year old brasilieras).
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[QUOTE=Junior]Rio de Janeiro vs. Pattaya
Having just completed my first ever trip to Pattaya, I thought it might be helpful for the monger community to get a comparison of the worlds two most famous mongering destinations.
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Sex
Again, not even a close call. Brazilian women are great in bed, probably the best in world. Thai womens sexual skills pale in comparison.
I have had so much great sex in brazil that I have stopped counting ….the best sex I had in Pattaya does not even make it to my top50 sessions.
Brazilian women are much more into sex and can genuinely provide a great GFE even if they have never met you before. Brazilian women are also more sexually demanding – you will get a long way with them if you can really make the come.
Winner: Rio
Will I go back?
…to Pattaya: probably not, thai women does not really do it for me.
…to Rio: Every year till the day I die ( which I hope will be at an old age and in bed with 5 exhausted 19 year old brasilieras).[/QUOTE]Hi,
Very nice report! And very informativ.
I have been to Thailand now many times and will travel to Rio for the first time in my live next month. I will stay in Salvador during the Carnival and after the Carnival I head to Rio for 1 week.
Personally I like Thai women very much, I've had many GFE experience with them and they are mostly very nice. As you described, they will not let you get yourself a beer.
After going through some escort pages in the net I found how sexy brazilian ladies look. Ofcourse I can not judge since most of them have been photoshoped and the girsls may not look as nice.
I usually monger more upclass and don't mind paying for good service and quality.
So after reading your report I am even more looking forward to Brazil!
Regards,
Vandeta
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Broadband Internet
Can I get Broadband Internet(Cable) or T1 line in Rio. If so, can it be reliable especially between 6 A.M. EST and 7P.M. EST.
Thanks in advance.
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[QUOTE=Voyajer1]Gents: As of today, prices at 4 X 4 have gone up. The price for a 40 minute session is now 160 Reals. The price for an hour in a regular cabin is now up to 200 Reals. When I go back I will try to get a breakdown on all the suites at their new rates if those have changed. Entrance price remains the same. More to come[/QUOTE]It looks like I should try Vila Mimosa! But I'll wear old shoes.
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Rio, Pattaya
nice report junior,
you know the difference may be for me that i went to thailand first and then went to other destinations. for me thailand is a whole different animal than rio and the two cannot be properly compared to each other. i love them both for many diffferent reasons but i really love the fact that women are available on a p4p basis at both locations. one trip i may need some rio in my life, the other trip i may need a little pattaya.
one thing that divides my time with pattaya is that in pattaya there is no substitute for feeling like you are a total millionaire and getting out of your comfort zone money wise is tough to do. you can also rent a motor bike and that is a freedom in it self. riding from bar to bar in north, central, south pattaya, and then jomtien beach for even more bars... like a kid in a candy store. it's like a freedom that is only experienced over there because you are so in control of everything when money is no issue.
i remember i came out of my apartment one sunday in rio, before my plane took off for home, looking for some quick ass. meia pataca was all wet from rain (think of july '08 when you could throw a stone in helpee on a sunday and not hit anyone in the head, for those that were there) and there was no available ass at meia pataca. pressed on a sunday with two hours till cab time and no ass made me real nervous. in pattaya, not a problem more ass than you need to be available all hours of the day and night. the town is yours, walk where you want. no one is going to attack you or anything like that. it's all good in pattaya. get stumbling drunk and walk to your hotel? no problem! (though you may get pickpocketed by a tranny) the party never stops. what? lucifers is over? well lets just go to mixx or this or that... sun coming up? ok jp bar for crack of dawn partying... 10 or more clubs within walking distance of each other pumpin rap, rock, techno, arabic... they cater to the foreign sex tourist in pattaya. i really like that.
as for rio, the feeling of being in rio cannot be compared. walking along the beach on atlantica never can be equaled in pattaya. you have all versions of tall, short - dark and light in rio. you can even get these weird asian mixes beause of the japanese population in sao paulo. the sheer diversity of rio women cannot be equaled in asia. (though the black military mixes in angeles city philippines give me some real nice alternatives there). rio is a romantic major metropolitan city. pattaya is not very attractive and pretty unromantic.
given the same amount of money and a choice of both places i would probably go to pattaya. double that available amount of money to go to rio with and well then, i choose rio.
they both have big attractions for me. the prevailing reason i constantly still go to asia is because of my initiation into foreign p4p when visiting thailand. i am much more used to the girls and their shyness etc. there is a level of femininity that cannot be equaled by women outside of asia. that is just the way it is... (all my opinion)
god bless all of em tho!
travelfox
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2 bedroom-Copa 1 year lease
If anyone has any leads on a 2 bedroom furnished, available for a year, please PM me. I am looking to spend no more than 3000R/month. I am looking ASAP. Thank you.
Viper10
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Of course
[QUOTE=Tavern]Can I get Broadband Internet(Cable) or T1 line in Rio. If so, can it be reliable especially between 6 A.M. EST and 7P.M. EST.
Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE] Both DSL and Cable based broadband is available in Rio but is does depend on where you live. In most places in Rio you can get DSL up to 8 Mbps. And it's cheap too. I seem to recall that it's only about $40 a month..... or was R40? Can't remember.
Reliability? Well, I suppose it's about as reliable as anything Brazil.
As for T-1, it's absolutely available from TeleRJ.
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MagicJack is amazing!!!
I am writing to all of you while I am in my apartment in Rio. I bought MagicJack in the U.S. for $40. This covers the device and also the first year. They supply you with a U.S. phone number. Wherever you travel in the world, simply connect a landline phone to your computer and connect MagicJack. I just called the U.S. and my number appeared on the caller ID of the person whom I was calling. They also called me in Rio with my U.S. number supplied by MagicJack, and their number appeared on my caller ID and the call went perfectly. Connection was great. All you need is an internet connection that is on. The cost of the call is zero!!
Viper10
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[QUOTE=Viper10]I am writing to all of you while I am in my apartment in Rio. I bought MagicJack in the U.S. for $40. This covers the device and also the first year. They supply you with a U.S. phone number. Wherever you travel in the world, simply connect a landline phone to your computer and connect MagicJack. I just called the U.S. and my number appeared on the caller ID of the person whom I was calling. They also called me in Rio with my U.S. number supplied by MagicJack, and their number appeared on my caller ID and the call went perfectly. Connection was great. All you need is an internet connection that is on. The cost of the call is zero!!
Viper10[/QUOTE]
I use MagicJack too and I agree it's great. Another nice feature is that when you're offline it will record voice mails for you and then email you a wave file so you can hear the voce mail.
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Has anyone used this agency before?
[url]http://www.gpbr.net/site.htm[/url]
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MagicJack
[QUOTE=Hulk]I use MagicJack too and I agree it's great. Another nice feature is that when you're offline it will record voice mails for you and then email you a wave file so you have hear the voce mail.[/QUOTE]
I totally agree. I have used MagicJack during two trips to Rio. It worked perfectly both times.
I also love the voice mail messages sent to my e-mail.
During one of the trips, I was rooming with a friend who had Vonage. It worked fine too but it costs $24 a month. MagicJack is the better deal.
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[QUOTE=Jake993]Both DSL and Cable based broadband is available in Rio but is does depend on where you live. In most places in Rio you can get DSL up to 8 Mbps. And it's cheap too. I seem to recall that it's only about $40 a month..... or was R40? Can't remember.
Reliability? Well, I suppose it's about as reliable as anything Brazil.
As for T-1, it's absolutely available from TeleRJ.[/QUOTE]
Really?
Please do tell me where and how one can get 8m connection for 40 reals?
My 1m costs with a fixed phone around 150 reais a month.
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A 4mb connection is R$100 per month.
NET sux, I remember when they had an outage for 1 week. After 2 days they simply switched off their call center, didn't even bother to put up a recorded message, just switched it off as too many people were calling into complain.
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Help on Sunday's
Hi Guy's,
I will be in town on Sunday and plan to go to help. In previous years this was a great night as although not as busy as normal you had a lot of the GDP's from 4x4 and the other centro termas there to pick up a little extra. Is this still the case? Or should I try somewhere else as this is my only night in town. If anyone wants to meet up for a beer and go on the prowl together I will most likely be between MP and TA at around 10pm on Sunday night, you can't miss me I'll be the 6'6" Aussie with a beer in hand.
Cheers
B. A.
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Centaurus
Went to Centaurus last night with four of my friends
I have lived in Rio for eight months now , but never yet tried Centaurus, The prices put me off. My four friends are all first time Rio visitors.
We got there about 9PM , asked if we could see the talent , told we couldn't but told there were 85 girls and 27 men. Cost to get in R120 plus another R280 for 40 minutes if you program plus R20 extra if you use a credit card.
We changed into the robes , showered and entered the boite. I was immediately grabbed by two girls , who did their best to separate me from my friends , we ended up all sitting together, my friends each had one girl. I was pretty sure I wasn't going to program cause R280 for 40 minutes seems way too much for me. I live in Rio and I pay my regulars R100 to R150 for all night. The most I have ever ever paid was R201 for an all-nighter
The girls weren't hustling me for drinks so I offered them each one. My attitude is , if they ask I say no , if they don't I offer.
One of my girls spoke English the other did not , I can get by in Portuguese ( sort of ) so we talked in Portuguese. They were both grabbing my penis so fairly soon it got hard , they called it an anaconda , which is a laugh cause it's closer to a worm LOL.
They were really hustling for a threesome, the other girls of my friends suggested a festa , but since that was R500 each , or R2500 total for the hour we declined.
None of us ended up programming , me because I'm panduro , my friends though splash money around like drunken sailors just didn't fancy any girls.
I had always heard Centaurus had the best of the best girls. But of the 85 girls there I would have said there were a handful of 8s ,no 9s no 10s. Not one single girl was a WOW. My friends were slightly more charitable but not much.
What was offputting was the number of bodybuilder girls. I would say a quarter of the girls were seriously steroid muscular. I know a lot of Brazilians like that look but it turns me off. Seriously we could have been in a room full of travesties. I'd say a quarter of the girls there none of us would do even if they were free. I'm glad I went, cause I finally saw it, but we were all very disappointed in the quality. If you're into the hard-core bulging muscle body-builder girl then go,otherwise pass!
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Hi there,
As I am travelling to Rio with my wife (who doesn't mind 3somes with another women), I was wondering how it would be if I go with my wife to a place like Help to hook up with another women? Ofcourse my wife wants to be with me when we pick a women. Will the professionals in Brazil feel offended?
We had very good experiences in Thailand, but never travelled to Brazil yet and I was wondering how it will be? Any experiences?
Regards,
Vandeta
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No problema
[QUOTE=Vandeta09]Hi there,
As I am travelling to Rio with my wife (who doesn't mind 3somes with another women), I was wondering how it would be if I go with my wife to a place like Help to hook up with another women? Ofcourse my wife wants to be with me when we pick a women. Will the professionals in Brazil feel offended?
We had very good experiences in Thailand, but never travelled to Brazil yet and I was wondering how it will be? Any experiences?
Regards,
Vandeta[/QUOTE]
Help and the strip clubs are no problem at all. Termas' are a no go, although a long time ago Solarium did allow couples in one day a week.
You would probably be better off trying the swingers club 2A2, it has a website, or one of the ones in Barra.
Good hunting
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[QUOTE=Vandeta09]Will the professionals in Brazil feel offended?
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GDP's will not be offended at all, a good percentage live with other girls in semi lesbian relationships. A very small percentage won't do girls, but they won't be offended if asked.
Also try Lúomo (A Terma). Girls are certainly welcome there, you will also find the other mongers will not be offended nor will they particularly bother you. There will be up to 40 hot young Brazilian girls there in G strings, hence your wife probably won't draw that much attention. She will be required to wear a robe to distinguish herself from the workers of course.
You will also have a great time at Help with your woman!
You really will have a good time in Rio. No one will even be close to being offended by your wife doing another chic.
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Apocalpso .. where do you get your regular girls ?
[QUOTE=Apocalpso]Went to Centaurus last night with four of my friends
I have lived in Rio for eight months now , ... cause R280 for 40 minutes seems way too much for me. I live in Rio and I pay my regulars R100 to R150 for all night. The most I have ever ever paid was R201 for an all-nighter
... [/QUOTE]
Hello Apocalpso,
I agree with your view that the talent at the Termas is not so great ... lookwise. I would like to know where and how you hunt for local talent? I am living part-time in Rio, and I would love to buy you a drink or a meal and exchange Brazilian war stories with you (pm me). Regards.
B.B.
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Rio in May
Hi,
I was last in Rio in February, it was great fun, I especially liked Help, everytime I went there it was very busy. Having read this forum since that trip it seems to have died down alot over the summer, before picking up again.
I am returning to Rio for 2 weeks at the end of May and wondered if anyone had any idea how busy Help would be at this time of year, and Rio in general.
Many thanks in advance,
Andy
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Vandeta09's wife in Rio
[QUOTE=Abzsafado]Help and the strip clubs are no problem at all. Termas' are a no go, although a long time ago Solarium did allow couples in one day a week.
You would probably be better off trying the swingers club 2A2, it has a website, or one of the ones in Barra.
Good hunting[/QUOTE]I have to respectfully disagree. I know that L'uomo at least allows women in. I do not know the rules but if she is a foreigner and comes with a man there should be no problem. No problem finding a girl for you two there.
I do not recommend 2A2. The place is pretty nasty. As I understand they do not allow single women, only couples so a threesome will be tough to pull off. At least half of the women there are pros anyway so you may as well cut out the middle man (not the business, the guy that brought her). On the other hand, if you like having sex while some guy stands next to you jacking off then 2A2 is the place to go.
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@Vandeta09
[QUOTE=Bubba Boy]GDP's will not be offended at all, a good percentage live with other girls in semi lesbian relationships. A very small percentage won't do girls, but they won't be offended if asked.
Also try Lúomo (A Terma). Girls are certainly welcome there, you will also find the other mongers will not be offended nor will they particularly bother you. There will be up to 40 hot young Brazilian girls there in G strings, hence your wife probably won't draw that much attention. She will be required to wear a robe to distinguish herself from the workers of course.
You will also have a great time at Help with your woman!
You really will have a good time in Rio. No one will even be close to being offended by your wife doing another chic.[/QUOTE]
I agree with everything in this post. Except ... your wife will draw a bit of attention in L'uomo. Because it is so unusual to see a girl in a robe there. I have seen one once, and I had to strike up a conversation. It turned out this lady was there with her three male business partners ... But, yeah, all of the girls there will agre to a threesome, no problen.
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Attention
Yeah sure she will draw some attention, it will sort of be cool attention. Unless your wife is super hot, other mongers won't even be looking at her that much other than curiosity factor. Maybe offer a beer and have a chat. There aren't too many wives than would be able to compete for attention against 30 - 40 hit brazilians chics in G Strings dancing around acting looking for dicks to stroke.
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[QUOTE=Bubba Boy]Yeah sure she will draw some attention, it will sort of be cool attention. Unless your wife is super hot, other mongers won't even be looking at her that much other than curiosity factor. Maybe offer a beer and have a chat. There aren't too many wives than would be able to compete for attention against 30. 40 hit brazilians chics in G Strings dancing around acting looking for dicks to stroke. [/QUOTE]Hey thank you all for the advices.
I feel now much more confident, I originally thought about Help and other clubs, not necessarely going to a Terma. We are looking more into LT's. We had lots of fun with LT's in Thailand.
But thanks everyone. Seems it is going to be fun.
Vandeta
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The first 3 days of a newbie
Hi all, so just few lines after my first days here, maybe not such a very helpful info for the more experienced friends here, but just another point of view....
HELP
I went there 2 times, as I was afraid, stay 1,5 month in Russia ruined me for life....where in Jet club in Ufa you see 90% of top notch and Jake993 knows very well what I am speaking about ;) , at help I saw only 5-10% of top notch. It is surely a safe place, full of gringo, but the problem is outside...if you go immediately inside the taxi, they have insane prices cause they to not swtich on taxametr, if you walk even 100 metrs it can be dangerous, I do that I across the street and take taxi that pass towards Leme.
Girls starts from 450 reais but at late night you can take for 200, the problem is....the very nice are or busy, very busy, and a bit selfish too, some looks really under drugs...., the other ones....for me it is now almost impossible to fuck a 5´ when in Russia I got so many 8´and 9´....
BALCONY BAR
Even worst quality than help....
SHENNINGANS
Some nice girls, but almost every one already busy when I got there
WEATHER
Very hot...the sun really burn even if every days cloudy for some hours
TERMAS
Still not try, I got horny at late night LOL when they exactly close ?? I go, for sure, I promise and then I immediately report here. I decided for Lúomo, we will see.
FLAT
I found a good one in Copa for 80 reais per day, close to Balcony bar
FOOD
Restaurants everywhere, but at comida per kg, I eat good too, so...I save money to try to get top notch in Porto Alegre LOL
If somebody wants to meet for a beer or every suggests is more than wellcome, the same as if somebody will be in Porto Alegre about the first 2 weeks of february....
Ciao
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[QUOTE=Lukasek]
FLAT
I found a good one in Copa for 80 reais per day, close to Balcony bar
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That must be a bargain for Rio de Janeiro. Some years ago I think I payed at least 150 R$ for a decent place half-way between Copa and Ipanema.
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Very Accurate Comparison
you've summarised the difference very well and i would like to summarise it further to one word: price. there's no doubt the availability of girls is higher and the price much lower in, say, bangkok. but in rio the quality, and therefore the price, much higher. eliminate the price factor and rio is infinitely better.
[quote=travel fox]nice report junior,
you know the difference may be for me that i went to thailand first and then went to other destinations. for me thailand is a whole different animal than rio and the two cannot be properly compared to each other. i love them both for many diffferent reasons but i really love the fact that women are available on a p4p basis at both locations. one trip i may need some rio in my life, the other trip i may need a little pattaya.
one thing that divides my time with pattaya is that in pattaya there is no substitute for feeling like you are a total millionaire and getting out of your comfort zone money wise is tough to do. you can also rent a motor bike and that is a freedom in it self. riding from bar to bar in north, central, south pattaya, and then jomtien beach for even more bars... like a kid in a candy store. it's like a freedom that is only experienced over there because you are so in control of everything when money is no issue.
i remember i came out of my apartment one sunday in rio, before my plane took off for home, looking for some quick ass. meia pataca was all wet from rain (think of july '08 when you could throw a stone in helpee on a sunday and not hit anyone in the head, for those that were there) and there was no available ass at meia pataca. pressed on a sunday with two hours till cab time and no ass made me real nervous. in pattaya, not a problem more ass than you need to be available all hours of the day and night. the town is yours, walk where you want. no one is going to attack you or anything like that. it's all good in pattaya. get stumbling drunk and walk to your hotel? no problem! (though you may get pickpocketed by a tranny) the party never stops. what? lucifers is over? well lets just go to mixx or this or that... sun coming up? ok jp bar for crack of dawn partying... 10 or more clubs within walking distance of each other pumpin rap, rock, techno, arabic... they cater to the foreign sex tourist in pattaya. i really like that.
as for rio, the feeling of being in rio cannot be compared. walking along the beach on atlantica never can be equaled in pattaya. you have all versions of tall, short - dark and light in rio. you can even get these weird asian mixes beause of the japanese population in sao paulo. the sheer diversity of rio women cannot be equaled in asia. (though the black military mixes in angeles city philippines give me some real nice alternatives there). rio is a romantic major metropolitan city. pattaya is not very attractive and pretty unromantic.
given the same amount of money and a choice of both places i would probably go to pattaya. double that available amount of money to go to rio with and well then, i choose rio.
they both have big attractions for me. the prevailing reason i constantly still go to asia is because of my initiation into foreign p4p when visiting thailand. i am much more used to the girls and their shyness etc. there is a level of femininity that cannot be equaled by women outside of asia. that is just the way it is... (all my opinion)
god bless all of em tho!
travelfox[/quote]
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Centaurus - Why?
I used to justify going to Centaurus because they had the best looking girls in Rio. I can't even say that anymore.
Last night after I left Monte Carlo (where I had another great time) I took a cab to Centaurus. As soon as I got in I told him this ride was on Centaurus and he could collect his R$20 from them. The reason I did this was because last time I was told that my entrace would be R$120 and not the usual R$100 I had been paying (R$20 is the gringo tax).
I get there and only pay the entrance (R$120) and change into my robe. As soon as I walked in the bar the girls were grabbing at me and standing in my way. I was the only gringo there and there were probably only 20 or so Brazilians at 9:00 on Saturday. One girl is my designated chaperone for the evening and sits down and starts talking with me. I explain that my friends no longer come there because the girls are so agressive. I then go to the corner table by the stage to eat and listen to the live music. She sits down next to me and asks me if this is better. She says she knows I don't want to talk, but proceeds to talk with me anyway.
Almost all of the girls and most of the customers are smoking. Other than one light mulatta, all the girls are white. I really like the singer and guitarist but unfortunately some drunk Brazilian grabs drumsticks and starts beating on everything in sight. That and his going on stage and singing along with the singer made what should have been enjoyable, painful. One of the girls tries unsuccesfully to distract him. After about 15 minutes of this, I leave.
At checkout I ask for my tab and am told it is R$49 more. I had a Coke Zero and some food. I give him R$50, he quickly gives me 1 R$ and says bye. I ask to see the bill. It turns out it was R$39. I point this out to him and he apologizes and gives me the other R$10.
So, they charge me R$20 more because I am a gringo. If you do take a girl, the total cost (normally expected to be paid upfront) is R$400 for 40 minutes. Receiptionists are rude and dishonest, girls are agressive and not as attractive as in the past. If you are a non-smoker, you will find nothing but smokers. If you prefer women of color you will not find any there. The food was tasteless other than being heavily laden with salt.
Centaurus - Why indeed?
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I agree
[QUOTE=Exec Talent]I used to justify going to Centaurus because they had the best looking girls in Rio. I can't even say that anymore.
Centaurus - Why indeed?[/QUOTE]I feel the same way. Been here 2 weeks now and this will be my first trip to Brazil without going to Centaurus. Monte Carlo has put Centaurus out of business for me.
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[QUOTE=Exec Talent]I used to justify going to Centaurus because they had the best looking girls in Rio. I can't even say that anymore.
Last night after I left Monte Carlo (where I had another great time) I took a cab to Centaurus. As soon as I got in I told him this ride was on Centaurus and he could collect his R$20 from them. The reason I did this was because last time I was told that my entrace would be R$120 and not the usual R$100 I had been paying (R$20 is the gringo tax).
I get there and only pay the entrance (R$120) and change into my robe. As soon as I walked in the bar the girls were grabbing at me and standing in my way. I was the only gringo there and there were probably only 20 or so Brazilians at 9:00 on Saturday. One girl is my designated chaperone for the evening and sits down and starts talking with me. I explain that my friends no longer come there because the girls are so agressive. I then go to the corner table by the stage to eat and listen to the live music. She sits down next to me and asks me if this is better. She says she knows I don't want to talk, but proceeds to talk with me anyway.
Almost all of the girls and most of the customers are smoking. Other than one light mulatta, all the girls are white. I really like the singer and guitarist but unfortunately some drunk Brazilian grabs drumsticks and starts beating on everything in sight. That and his going on stage and singing along with the singer made what should have been enjoyable, painful. One of the girls tries unsuccesfully to distract him. After about 15 minutes of this, I leave.
At checkout I ask for my tab and am told it is R$49 more. I had a Coke Zero and some food. I give him R$50, he quickly gives me 1 R$ and says bye. I ask to see the bill. It turns out it was R$39. I point this out to him and he apologizes and gives me the other R$10.
So, they charge me R$20 more because I am a gringo. If you do take a girl, the total cost (normally expected to be paid upfront) is R$400 for 40 minutes. Receiptionists are rude and dishonest, girls are agressive and not as attractive as in the past. If you are a non-smoker, you will find nothing but smokers. If you prefer women of color you will not find any there. The food was tasteless other than being heavily laden with salt.
Centaurus - Why indeed?[/QUOTE]Do you suspect that Centaurus charges Brazilians less than the R$400 for 40 minutes?
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In today's Guardian newspaper concerning Help
[url]http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jan/18/rio-copacabana[/url]
Have a read of this. I hope Help doesn't close. Where the paedophilia link comes from I don't know.
Agreed, the Avenida Atlantica needs a clean up; the famous wave motif tiles need a good scrub and some need replacing and attention to sprucing up the street furniture is needed.
More (active and uncorrupt) police on the streets late at night and patrolling would make visitors feel safer and deter street crime but I'm not sure if there is an un-corrupt Police Militar in the whole of Copacabana. New York has undergone a renaissance due to the last mayors increased spending on keeping streets clean, cleaning graffiti, repairing sidewalks and roads and coming down hard on anti-social behaviour. The problem is, Help is probably considered part of the problem, even though it is in a very small part of the beachfront and the problem is not with the girls and punters but with those who prey on them.
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Centaurus charges
[QUOTE=Jamaicanceo]Do you suspect that Centaurus charges Brazilians less than the R$400 for 40 minutes?[/QUOTE]
I do not know. I do know that what alerted me originally to the extra entrance charge (dates back to previous pricing levels) for gringos was what I saw on my bill. For example, since I only paid the entrance this time there was a R$100 credit. Actually I paid R$120. It does not matter in terms of charges (it is a washed amount) however it showed me what was collected and what was credited were two different amounts. The R$20 was outside the computer system.
As for the R$400, maybe one of our local Brazilian friends can let us know.
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[QUOTE=Dazzler72][url]http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jan/18/rio-copacabana[/url]
Have a read of this. I hope Help doesn't close. Where the paedophilia link comes from I don't know.
Agreed, the Avenida Atlantica needs a clean up; the famous wave motif tiles need a good scrub and some need replacing and attention to sprucing up the street furniture is needed.
More (active and uncorrupt) police on the streets late at night and patrolling would make visitors feel safer and deter street crime but I'm not sure if there is an un-corrupt Police Militar in the whole of Copacabana. New York has undergone a renaissance due to the last mayors increased spending on keeping streets clean, cleaning graffiti, repairing sidewalks and roads and coming down hard on anti-social behaviour. The problem is, Help is probably considered part of the problem, even though it is in a very small part of the beachfront and the problem is not with the girls and punters but with those who prey on them.[/QUOTE]
Even if they close it there are other spots we can go too. Or we can open a new club.
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Globo article on cleaning up Copacabana
Wow, that article was all over the place in logic. It seems these uppity Brazilians are going to do for Copacabana what they did when they built Brasilia!
That article is proof that certain Brazilians just do not get it. The people quoted in the article made references to smells, drugs, etc., and then prostitution as if they all have something to do with the other.
Certain elements in Brazil have always focused on "modernization," by placing the blame for "backwardness" on others. I will guarantee these jerks quoted in the article are or will be in power in the suburb of Copa and in Rio in the future. They place the blame on others then pretend to "clean" things up in the name of the people!
who cares anyway? Prostitution in Copacabana will just move to other venues. And if no gringo ever set foot in Rio again, prositution will still be big time in Rio/Brazil, just ask Ronaldo.
TJ
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** Police Scams **
Speaking of people preying on punters at help, I have been pulled over 4 times now while inside a taxi travelling from Avenida Atlantica to Ipanema by police.
They take you out of the car, Search your pockets, and if you have a prostitute with you they plant drugs on her or in the taxi and tell you you have to pay.
Has this happened to anyone else? Be careful guys, its beyond fucked.
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[QUOTE=TJ Fannatic]Wow, that article was all over the place in logic. It seems these uppity Brazilians are going to do for Copacabana what they did when they built Brasilia!
That article is proof that certain Brazilians just do not get it. The people quoted in the article made references to smells, drugs, etc., and then prostitution as if they all have something to do with the other.
Certain elements in Brazil have always focused on "modernization," by placing the blame for "backwardness" on others. I will guarantee these jerks quoted in the article are or will be in power in the suburb of Copa and in Rio in the future. They place the blame on others then pretend to "clean" things up in the name of the people!
who cares anyway? Prostitution in Copacabana will just move to other venues. And if no gringo ever set foot in Rio again, prositution will still be big time in Rio/Brazil, just ask Ronaldo.
TJ[/QUOTE]
If they are serious about cleaning Copacabana, then let them start by the big fat ELEPHANT in the room. And by the big fat elephant , I mean the SLUMS/FAVELAS on the top of Copa and Ipanema.! That would resolve 90% of the problems of Rio right there.
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[QUOTE=Tiradentes]If they are serious about cleaning Copacabana, then let them start by the big fat ELEPHANT in the room. And by the big fat elephant , I mean the SLUMS/FAVELAS on the top of Copa and Ipanema.! That would resolve 90% of the problems of Rio right there.[/QUOTE]I second this recommendation! And they should feed the kids who wander through Rio looking for food and sleeping on the streets.
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[QUOTE=Jamaicanceo]Do you suspect that Centaurus charges Brazilians less than the R$400 for 40 minutes?[/QUOTE]
ASAP I write a good report about 3 days at termas...so far just an info....yesterday at 4x4 I paid 448 reais for entrance,2 beers and 1 guarana, 1 hour with 1 girl and 40 mintues with second girl....not bad...but if Centaurus has many white girls....I think I will got to take a look even if it seems to me a turist rip off.... later more...
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Serious Issue -- Copied to Crime and Safety
[QUOTE=Sehns]** Police Scams **
Speaking of people preying on punters at help, I have been pulled over 4 times now while inside a taxi travelling from Avenida Atlantica to Ipanema by police.
They take you out of the car, Search your pockets, and if you have a prostitute with you they plant drugs on her or in the taxi and tell you you have to pay.
Has this happened to anyone else? Be careful guys, its beyond fucked.[/QUOTE]
This is a serious issue of which everyone should be aware. However, let's move the discussion of it to Rio de Janeiro -- Crime and Safety
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[QUOTE=Sehns]** Police Scams **
Speaking of people preying on punters at help, I have been pulled over 4 times now while inside a taxi travelling from Avenida Atlantica to Ipanema by police.
They take you out of the car, Search your pockets, and if you have a prostitute with you they plant drugs on her or in the taxi and tell you you have to pay.
Has this happened to anyone else? Be careful guys, its beyond fucked.[/QUOTE]What sums of money are we talking about being paid here?
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3 days of termas....
So after 3 days of help where i saw nothing really good and not overpriced, i got my first girl at sweety pussy, 77 reais to take her out included entrance and 2 drinks and 200 reis for her, not bad, not good.
Earlier I was at Barbarella....the best turist rip off....60 entrance with 1 drink but the girls want at least 600 reais and no very very beautiful for me...useless to say I left alone....one thing to say, the white one I spoke with, got almost angry when I asked her if she does bbbj and anal........she told that I am crazy if I think she will sucks every day without condom different gringo dick....I told her in restaurant not far from there, they search for waitress.....I think crazy is who is gonna to pay 600 reais for one of them....
My lucky was I met two guys from NY, so they showed me termas and finally my holiday changed....
1 DAY :
Montecarlo, not many customer, but only 2 or 3 top notch, I took one, nice but nothing special however she was completa and I enjoyed so much, I went up for one hour and after 2 shots I wanted one more ( I had to party my first day at termas LOL ), so I went another 40 minutes, we stayed about 6 hours, many drinks and 600 reais, but milion times more funny and good than if I took the girl from Barbarella.
2 DAY
L'uomo, very nice, much more nice looking girls than at Montecarlo, almost same price, but the 18 yo I took, even if she kissed me very passionate, she did not do anal.....so I left and I went for 40 minutes with the girl of the day before in montecarlo
3 DAY
4x4.....too crowded, about 10 very nice girls, but too person you almost cannot walk, it was crowded as help on saturday night, just to make you understand wha I mean.....I took a very nice, the best one I saw in 7 days in Rio, blonde, thin, for 1 hour, at the bar she kissed very good, handjob too....I was sure she could be a very good experience as the girl from Montecarlo but it ends to be one of the worst girl I got in my life....in the bedroom, almost no bj, she did not want anal, she neither allowed me to finger and to lick her pussy,even if I took a shower in front of her....she was too much beautiful...so lazy, so bad....
Down after one hour of see girls, I found a brown skin thin too, that even if not so nice as the blond one, 40 minutes with her were unbelievable, bbbj and anal as usually and really very good sex.
So 1 hour with the blond one, 40 minutes with the second one, few drinks, entrance for 448 reais......not bad I guess.
It seems to me much cheaper 4x4 instead of termas in copa.
Strange enough that at 4x4 40 minutes is 180 reais and 60 minutes is 200 reais....just 20 reais more ?
I am curious to see centaurus and every termas that has white or tanned thin girls, so if you have suggests, let me know, I go and I report :)
Bye for now
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[QUOTE=Exec Talent]This is a serious issue of which everyone should be aware. However, let's move the discussion of it to Rio de Janeiro -- Crime and Safety[/QUOTE]Hi Guys,
Mentioned a simular thing in an other report. And this is a wise advice.
Be careful guys.
Chicobarca
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Lukasek,
Glad to hear you finally found Monte Carlo. I must say I love that club, i've been there a few times now, its conveniently located, the girls are almost as hot as the ones at centaurus, and I leave without feeling like I just got robbed (Unlike Centaurus, which is a block from where I live)
I feel your pain about the tall hot skinny white girls, I found a pleasant looking girl at monte carlo last night, she's tall with long dark hair and wears an adam and eve style bikini (felt leaves over each breast and her thong) got chatting, she had a great sales pitch as well, lots of kissing, affection, crotch grabbing.. got her back to the room and she just lay down, no BJ (even covered), absolutely unwilling to please, I was disgusted and glad i only paid for 40 minutes.
Oh well, its all a learning experience, it wont happen to me again for sure
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[QUOTE=Sehns]** Police Scams **
Speaking of people preying on punters at help, I have been pulled over 4 times now while inside a taxi travelling from Avenida Atlantica to Ipanema by police.
They take you out of the car, Search your pockets, and if you have a prostitute with you they plant drugs on her or in the taxi and tell you you have to pay.
Has this happened to anyone else? Be careful guys, its beyond fucked.[/QUOTE]
Tell the taxi driver to go via Barata Ribeiro and Raul Pompeia. Perhaps this will avoid the cops.
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[QUOTE=Sehns]Lukasek,
Glad to hear you finally found Monte Carlo. I must say I love that club, i've been there a few times now, its conveniently located, the girls are almost as hot as the ones at centaurus, and I leave without feeling like I just got robbed (Unlike Centaurus, which is a block from where I live)
I feel your pain about the tall hot skinny white girls, I found a pleasant looking girl at monte carlo last night, she's tall with long dark hair and wears an adam and eve style bikini (felt leaves over each breast and her thong) got chatting, she had a great sales pitch as well, lots of kissing, affection, crotch grabbing.. got her back to the room and she just lay down, no BJ (even covered), absolutely unwilling to please, I was disgusted and glad i only paid for 40 minutes.
Oh well, its all a learning experience, it wont happen to me again for sure[/QUOTE]
To quote Vadim [from Moscow] - "Beautiful girls think that they shit ice cream, but the ugly girls know what they have to do".
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[QUOTE=Lukasek]I am curious to see centaurus[/QUOTE]
If you must go to Centaurus I'd suggest negotiating at the front door that you will only pay the entrance fee up front (since you are a non-brazilian you will be overcharged for this anyways). After you go in and realize that the girls aren't any better than the other Termas at almost two times the price, you'll at least have the chance to high-tail-it out of there after only losing the entrance fee.
I'm sorry if I sound sarcastic, but it continues to amaze me how Centaurus stays in business.
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[QUOTE=Sehns]** Police Scams **
Speaking of people preying on punters at help, I have been pulled over 4 times now while inside a taxi travelling from Avenida Atlantica to Ipanema by police.
They take you out of the car, Search your pockets, and if you have a prostitute with you they plant drugs on her or in the taxi and tell you you have to pay.
Has this happened to anyone else? Be careful guys, its beyond fucked.[/QUOTE]
Do you recall the exact location(s) where you were detained? This is relevant because Copacabana is in the jurisdiction of the 19th Batallion, and the Ipanema/Leblon area is in the jurisdiction of the 23rd Batallion. It might be useful for people who want to avoid this situation.
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[QUOTE=Poucolouco]Do you recall the exact location(s) where you were detained? This is relevant because Copacabana is in the jurisdiction of the 19th Batallion, and the Ipanema/Leblon area is in the jurisdiction of the 23rd Batallion. It might be useful for people who want to avoid this situation.[/QUOTE]Av Rainha Elizabeth De Belgica, smack bang in the middle.
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Average girl price ? Accommodation ?
Hello
I plan to go 1 week in Rio end September. I only come 2 days in Rio 10 years ago.
I read the (very good) Bubba report and I spend 2 hours reading the forum but I still have a few questions
- The best place for an accomodation is copa right? Can you recommand a girl-friendly hotel or appartment (prince range 50-70 eur/day)
- What is average price for a girl? From the beach, restaurant, therma, help. I suppose the price are lower due to low season, are there still many bunda everywhere?
- Is the wheater good in September?
Thanks for help
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L'uomo
Well I am disappointed.
Went to Centaurus last week, why? because I had a friend over and that was where he wanted to go, well it was awful, rude staff at the desk, they tried to overcharge us for drinks and added the R$20 gringo tax, girls were unattractive, overall rubbish.
Went to L'uomo last night there were loads of guys and the girls were busy, I like when the place is busy usually there is a party mood but not last night. I could not see any good looking girls, still it was much better than Centaurus and took Lana skinny blond, an old friend, to the cabin, good session but it seems the whole Therma scene has gone down hill. I hope I'm wrong but it doesn't have the same buzz, or may be I'm just getting board with it!!!!!!
Will try Monte Carlo tonight but the last time I was there in August it was awful
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So which termas this evening ? :)
Sehns
I feel your pain too, what happens us, it is the same with different girls. Interesting and sad enough, you got much kissing too as me, so it is not so easy to understood from downstairs how the girl will be upstairs.....at least you took her for 40m, me for 1 hour.....
I quote Jake993 too, the problem is we are here for the nice girls, not for the uglies ones... :(
Hulk
you are not sarcastic, you are right and what I read here about Centaurus....hm...well I think I will try something different....
Solarium how and where is ?
BTW....yesterday after l'uomo I went to help, I was surprised, cause there were nice pussies, at least 10 girls I liked. I spoke with 3 and they wanted from 350 till 400 reais, till morning, they said, so considering money\time termas vs help, it is not bad, but the problem is that....with no one I got the feeling I could have a GFE, otherwise 100 reais more or less, do not change my life. Still I took no one girl from help back home, but at least once I want to do it, I would like to have 4-5 hours of sex instead of 1h.
After help I went to balcony bar and nothing, so I went to erotica that it is close to my apartment, 40 reais for nothing....it was the last time I paid a night club without to take a look inside in advance.
Do zavtra ;)
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A real....(cold) princess...
Here we are for the daily report ;)
Yesterday, thanks to Jake993 for gave me the exactly address I decided to go to Solarium21, but it took me....more than 2 hours from copa....cause it was raining and nao transito, all the cars just stand and move couple of meters every couple of minutes, so instead to arrive there at 19:00 I arrive later than 21:00....
To make long short....22 girls and 6 were blondes......the terma with the higher % of nice pussies, only one real black skin, most of them light or a bit tanned.
There were about 6-7 customers.
I choose a real hot blondes, about 165cm for 50 kg, so nice, I was surprised she did not speak russian....after about one hour of nice conversation and DFK, I was sure I could have not only nice sex but also a GFE with a hot girl when a friend of her come to us...she said, she has a friend and to wait her....she spoke and drink with him and they went to bedroom....after 2 hours of waiting I left so horny so angry....
I went, this time in less then 20 minutes, to Balcony where I started to check the pussy market....skank, gangsta, skank, skank, dogs, buldog....princess.....who is she ???
A sooo cute dark hair and eyes, skin white as milk a 160cm for less than 50kg, but good fake titts and so nice little, but high ass....she was alone and instead to wait if she was with somebody I started to play fast and I asked if she spoke english.....so in a couple of minutes we were having a nice conversations, smiles, jokes and her english good, or bad lol, as my english.
She is from belo horizonte, she said in holiday in Rio...byt the conversation I started almost to think she was a semipro, cause when I asked her if we can go to see Buzios or Rio together, she said, I do not know you well....
We agree to go to help, I paid her entrance, but let to see, she was very good, she no smokes and wanted to drink only water, the kind of girl I did not see here in Rio so often, she looks normal girl.....then she said...I work here....ok, for how much.....now....how much do you think such a girl can charge ?
6--0--0 reais !!!
I did want to smile, but I did not, so I asked her, what she does or not does, she said, she likes to make everything clear at the beginning, so...she does no anal, big miss for Lukasek, and when I asked if she likes milk...she said on her breast yes.....hm....I was sure I did not take her and not only for the price so high, but cause she really started to behave as a princess....
You know I was almost sure I could easily get her price down...but my question was, am I gonna to get a GFE with her or not ?
The answer was very easy if you consider, that I was, luckily, curious enough to ask her such an obvious question that in this case had a non obvious answer....do you like DATY ?
She said...usually when I work I never let somebody to lick me, but I like you, so....so ok, you can lick me.....at that moment I realized I did not take her neither for 50 reais, cause what I hate more is sex with such a princess, typical west european attitude....
So I told her, your price is too high and even if I like you and the connection is good, I am here 2 months so I can wait for sex...she said, she does no care about the prices of the other girls and that this is her price....
I stayed 2 hours more, she came to me another 2 times asking me why I was alone....I smiled and I said, that she is alone too....
And nobody spoke to her, she was alone all the time and went away alone, very strange cause she is really very nice, but maybe everybody already know her price...
I went then to balcony, erotica and niko's.....I was so horny that I had a bit problem to fall asleep....
So at least I did not get boring even if I had no sex, I got a cheap evening....
Poka
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I am in Rio as we speak. Went to L'uomo and Monte Carlo last night. I have no basis as to what has been or was in terms of quality at those two termas in the past. All I can say IMO there were several 8.5's and above and a couple 9's in physical terms at L'uomo. IMO the quality is very very very good in both :-) But I am a Rio rookie right now, still with his jaw on the floor.....
I can say I like L'uomo's facility's better than MC's.
Also MC was pretty packed last night. I had to work faster than I would have liked because eyes were on the prize I wished to receive.
Will post my findings again tonight, hopefully with some pictures.....
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Just got back from 4x4. Man that place is wild!! Found my girlfriend for tomorrow to do some tourist stuff. She was the sexiest all natural girl in the place IMO. Solid 9 in my book. DFK, BBJ all the way. She isn't working tomorrow, so I will be her lover all day :-)
Will post pics ASAP!! Probably Sunday..........MAN I LOVE RIOOOO!!!!!!!!!! I will never again visit Tijuana, Costa RIca, Panama, Amsterdam, Germany, etc etc. Rio is my new home away from home for fun :-)
I don't know if its the pressure of lack there of, but I am a fukin stallion in Rio. I banged for 40min straight, now my stomach and back are sore. But man o man what a bunda I was banging.
I honestly might cry when I have to leave Monday night :-(
Well off to Monte Carlo or L'uomo. I guess I will make the decision when I leave the apartment, which I want to thank Gringo Management for providing me.
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Yesterday 1 hour at 4x4 for 291 reais and 40 minutes at l'uomo for 271 reais, both truly GFE....my feeling is that in comparison to the east europe, speaking about prostitute, here is much more hard to find a beautiful one, but much easier to get a very GFE.
This morning I wake up so tired and weak, I think much better I slow down, before to get sick, however is pretty easy, cause outside of termas, walking at the street very hard to get horny with the girls you see.
2 questions for the more experienced: termas are only in Rio or in every city of Brazil it is enough to ask for termas to a taxi driver and he understand ?
I was at 4x4, montecarlo, l'uomo, solarium21, so besides the centaurus that I still did not try, which other termas do you suggest me as enough easy to find, good girls and not too much far from copa ? So I will go and then I will report as well.
Thanks...
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[QUOTE=Lukasek]Yesterday 1 hour at 4x4 for 291 reais and 40 minutes at l'uomo for 271 reais, both truly GFE....my feeling is that in comparison to the east europe, speaking about prostitute, here is much more hard to find a beautiful one, but much easier to get a very GFE.
This morning I wake up so tired and weak, I think much better I slow down, before to get sick, however is pretty easy, cause outside of termas, walking at the street very hard to get horny with the girls you see.
2 questions for the more experienced: termas are only in Rio or in every city of Brazil it is enough to ask for termas to a taxi driver and he understand ?
I was at 4x4, montecarlo, l'uomo, solarium21, so besides the centaurus that I still did not try, which other termas do you suggest me as enough easy to find, good girls and not too much far from copa ? So I will go and then I will report as well.
Thanks...[/QUOTE]
Try termas CANCUN!!!
More good termas on Barra and there a lot more termas. trust me we have not gone to all.
Girls in Brazil are more of the crazy body type but actually a lot of mongers still do not understand something that we really need to keep in mind and I can not say this enough, Brazil is HUGEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!! bigger than Europe without Russia. So whatever you are looking as far looks Brazil has it trust me if you are looking for beautiful go to the South of Brazil and you'll get your share of really gorgeous women.
Brugal
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[QUOTE=Pure Power]Just got back from 4x4. Man that place is wild!! Found my girlfriend for tomorrow to do some tourist stuff. She was the sexiest all natural girl in the place IMO. Solid 9 in my book. DFK, BBJ all the way. She isn't working tomorrow, so I will be her lover all day :-)
Will post pics ASAP!! Probably Sunday..........MAN I LOVE RIOOOO!!!!!!!!!! I will never again visit Tijuana, Costa RIca, Panama, Amsterdam, Germany, etc etc. Rio is my new home away from home for fun :-)
I don't know if its the pressure of lack there of, but I am a fukin stallion in Rio. I banged for 40min straight, now my stomach and back are sore. But man o man what a bunda I was banging.
I honestly might cry when I have to leave Monday night :-(
Well off to Monte Carlo or L'uomo. I guess I will make the decision when I leave the apartment, which I want to thank Gringo Management for providing me.[/QUOTE] Purepower,
Glad to see you made it to Rio isn't it everything I said it would be? LOL don't Rio blow Costa Rica out of the water? Don't forget to try out Club Help before you leave.
Kid Cisco
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Termas
[QUOTE=Lukasek]Yesterday 1 hour at 4x4 for 291 reais and 40 minutes at l'uomo for 271 reais, both truly GFE....my feeling is that in comparison to the east europe, speaking about prostitute, here is much more hard to find a beautiful one, but much easier to get a very GFE.
This morning I wake up so tired and weak, I think much better I slow down, before to get sick, however is pretty easy, cause outside of termas, walking at the street very hard to get horny with the girls you see.
2 questions for the more experienced: termas are only in Rio or in every city of Brazil it is enough to ask for termas to a taxi driver and he understand ?
I was at 4x4, montecarlo, l'uomo, solarium21, so besides the centaurus that I still did not try, which other termas do you suggest me as enough easy to find, good girls and not too much far from copa ? So I will go and then I will report as well.
Thanks...[/QUOTE]
Luca,
Happy you enjoyed 4x4. Termas do exit in other cities in Brazil but not in the same format. For example, in Sao Paulo there are places to go for a massage that involve sex. Similar to the places that you see in Russia. You choose from a group of girls who are available. In Belo Horizonte there are one or two clubs that are similar to Termas but not as good as Rio. the Termas in Baja are newer and I have heard good things about them, but have never tried them myself. Too far from Copacabana without your own car. Unless you hire a taxi for the night.
As you go down the coast south of Rio there are some Termas but, again they are small and not as well organized. The idea of having a Boite where you can sit for hours and flirt with girls and socialize after work (and not necessarily session with a girl) is fairly unique, but not exclusive to Rio. But I have not traveled extensively to other cities beyond Rio, SP, BH, Belem, Salvador and a few others. No idea what is in Porto Alegre and Curitiba. Perhaps others will be able to fill in the blanks.
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[QUOTE=Kid Cisco]Purepower,
Glad to see you made it to Rio isn't it everything I said it would be? LOL don't Rio blow Costa Rica out of the water? Don't forget to try out Club Help before you leave.
Kid Cisco[/QUOTE]
You were right my friend :-) I will call you when I get back to USA.
Later
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Well just got back from Monte Carlo again. Banged the same girl I saw last night, she wouldn't leave me alone. GFE all the way. She slipped Mr B in without a condom for a split second. I almost went with my instinct, but my better half got the best of me :-)
The hour went by really fast. She is coming to stay with me tomorrow, so I will post pics of this monster bunda. Just didn't have my camera with me in the room.
Now the hard part. I have a girl from L'uomo and Monte Carlo that both wanna hang out tomorrow, realistically I can only hang with one. Tomorrow is gonna be a rough day in Copacabana :-)
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Garota working at HELP vs working at a Terma?
Hey guys. Let me ask you all something. Hopefully someone can explain this to me.
Why would a girl prefer to work at a Terma (Centaurus, Lumo, 4x4) vs finding customers at HELP?
Don't they make more money at HELP? And able to set their own hours etc?
Why would a beautiful girl work at a terma instead of help? You can only imagine they will get more money working at HELP right?
Do termas offer some kind of benefits? Like medical, life insurance etc?
What do all your girls tell you why they work at a terma vs going to HELP.
Thanks all.
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Room in Brazil Specialist's apartment and other lodging options
[QUOTE=Roccos]
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If you like beach and want to be near Help and stuff, yes.
I know a few guys who are "bottom dwellers" and like the cheap downtown brothels and termas. They take a hotel straight down town Rio. Cheaper, and walking distance to cheap great sex from US$ 5 per pop and up. Yes, I know, the $5 places are sleasy, but for $15 you occasionally get places that have nicer beds then a basic top termas room and are already half way clean. For R$ 70 you can get a GREAT big room with great cleanliness and very nice girls)
If you want to go to the beach, from downtown, you can still take the Metro.
There is always Barra da Tijuca (far away and inconvenient if you don't have a car but great beaches) and Ipanema (nicer neighborhood but they also much easier call the police on you if your help hags start some screaming fit and act up on you)
So yes, the average tourist would pick Copacabana, maybe Ipanema. For experts, all is open, from downtown centro to Barra.
[QUOTE=Roccos]
Can you recommand a girl-friendly hotel or appartment (prince range 50-70 eur/day)
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I rent suites in my own apartment, with great aircon, great internet, great mattresses, and great advice by the local resident whoring expert.
Don't expect advice about the tourist hangout termas and Help, I don't go there. Of course I can tell you how to get there and give you some advice. I like karlamodels.net, private model introductions, next door type semi-pros, cheap brothels, etc. Fresh young beginners .....
If you send me a private message, make sure you tell me how to contact you, you might not have private message privileges (or sign up for a full membership so you have private message privileges).
You can bet that Kid Cisco now will start a flame war about me sneaking into your room to lie next to your chick in your bed and other funny slanderous drivel. Please either ignore him or report his flames to the webmaster.
For those who don't like my apartment there are plenty of other choices. Princess Promenade Copacabana seems to be one of the best, in Xavier da Silveira, close to Help, close to me too. Google for the street name and hotel name.
Rumors are that you can get them cheaper through bobby's agency, blemitonrio4travel [url]http://blameitonrio4travel.com/[/url] . Try yourself and compare rate quotes.
Bobby is a good source for apartments. Maybe the experts find some cheaper stuff, but he has a decade long track record for solid service and reasonable pricing.
There is also Kenn at [url]http://ez-riorentals.com/[/url] ez-riorentals
Someone might try to post on good downtown hotel locations. There are cheap decent hotels right behind Cinelandia, on Senador Dantas and ?? streets. In Gloria and Flamengo, you find even cheaper hotels, but they are little bit inconvenient locations. Avoid Lapa and some other bad downtown neighborhoods. Also note that downtown rio is usually quite safe during the day and quite unsafe at night.
[QUOTE=Roccos]
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From my memory, September is deep winter with fairly low temperatures (for Rio of course) and very little rain. Someone please consult a climate web site and confirm.
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Centro hotels
[QUOTE=Brazil Specialist]
Someone might try to post on good downtown hotel locations. There are cheap decent hotels right behind Cinelandia, on Senador Dantas and ?? streets. In Gloria and Flamengo, you find even cheaper hotels, but they are little bit inconvenient locations. Avoid Lapa and some other bad downtown neighborhoods. Also note that downtown rio is usually quite safe during the day and quite unsafe at night.
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Very handy for Carnaval Sambodrome and 20yds from 1R a minute and a few hundred yards from Lapa is a hotel off Tiradentes near Carioca station. It's opposite the Ibis hotel (which is also good, girl friendly, but nearer normal prices). The rooms are not that bright or lovely but it was only 40R a night last time I looked. Big old building, it's just called Rio Hotel or something. If you go to Ibis and don't want to pay their rates then this dive will probably have rooms even at this time of year. As Braz.Sp says. not for beginners. You want to know your way around before staying in Centro. Oh, and they don't speak any English at all. (Ibis does). There's also a place next to Ibis that is just as new and sparkly but fractionally cheaper. You can't miss these three places - just go to Rua Carioca and they're on the left as you get to Tiradentes Square.
The other side of the square is home to some open air bars and probably the smelliest *****s I've ever seen in my life.
There's cheaper places in Centro north of Pres.Vargas but I haven't been inside them. This is at least a big solid place.
If you carry on along Carioca towards the park and just beyond as well, there's a lot of reasonably priced guest houses. Some of them have a 'family hotel' policy though so check first. Some you could rent by the hour. The ones in between I suppose would be the most attractive. Buses to VM from here, only a few stops, plus all the cheapo Centro shops, and even a nice park to go jogging in and watch the cats and peacocks sunning and the hobos sleeping.
Casarao is also almost adjacent to Tiradentes and you can get a very nice girl there at times for just a little more than the 1R a minute places opposite. The adult cinema does strip shows and bj's in your lap as you watch but as the trannies mix with the girls in the dark there I've never taken the offer.
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[QUOTE=Lukasek]
I was at 4x4, montecarlo, l'uomo, solarium21, so besides the centaurus that I still did not try, which other termas do you suggest me as enough easy to find, good girls and not too much far from copa ? So I will go and then I will report as well.
Thanks...[/QUOTE]
A couple of them that I can think of is RIO ANTIGO in Gloria where all TV's hang out at night and MV30 in the center. Check Sperto's map for them.
On the far side is CLUB 400 in Barra da Tijuca and ANCHORA in Recreio.
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Monte Carlo
Well things are looking up a bit, went to Monte Carlo and it was ok, not great but ok, good buzz, and a good number of girls, with about 3 or 4 good looking ones. This place has got really much better, the last time I was here in September I left without taking a girl. Not last night!! I met a girl I knew from Termas 65, (black, big titties) I took her and her friend Julia (white, long hair fake boobies) for an hour, both had a good attitude, good session with both DATY and giving a good bbj. After that they licked my asshole clean and we got down to some serious business. Both did anal like real pros :-)
Later I went back down to the bar where some drunk Brazilian guy was making an asshole of himself. The girls told me the night before some American guys was on the dance floor trying to dance funk, they told me they had never seen anything so stupid looking, also seems he dropped his cell phone and didn't notice. I thought ouch was that me! Anyway overall a good experience and worth a visit.
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[QUOTE=Brazil Specialist]If you like beach and want to be near Help and stuff, yes.
I know a few guys who are "bottom dwellers" and like the cheap downtown brothels and termas. They take a hotel straight down town Rio. Cheaper, and walking distance to cheap great sex from US$ 5 per pop and up. Yes, I know, the $5 places are sleasy, but for $15 you occasionally get places that have nicer beds then a basic top termas room and are already half way clean. For R$ 70 you can get a GREAT big room with great cleanliness and very nice girls)
If you want to go to the beach, from downtown, you can still take the Metro.
There is always Barra da Tijuca (far away and inconvenient if you don't have a car but great beaches) and Ipanema (nicer neighborhood but they also much easier call the police on you if your help hags start some screaming fit and act up on you)
So yes, the average tourist would pick Copacabana, maybe Ipanema. For experts, all is open, from downtown centro to Barra.
I rent suites in my own apartment, with great aircon, great internet, great mattresses, and great advice by the local resident whoring expert.
Don't expect advice about the tourist hangout termas and Help, I don't go there. Of course I can tell you how to get there and give you some advice. I like karlamodels.net, private model introductions, next door type semi-pros, cheap brothels, etc. Fresh young beginners.
If you send me a private message, make sure you tell me how to contact you, you might not have private message privileges (or sign up for a full membership so you have private message privileges).
You can bet that Kid Cisco now will start a flame war about me sneaking into your room to lie next to your chick in your bed and other funny slanderous drivel. Please either ignore him or report his flames to the webmaster.
For those who don't like my apartment there are plenty of other choices. Princess Promenade Copacabana seems to be one of the best, in Xavier da Silveira, close to Help, close to me too. Google for the street name and hotel name.
Rumors are that you can get them cheaper through bobby's agency, blemitonrio4travel [url]http://blameitonrio4travel.com/[/url]. Try yourself and compare rate quotes. Bobby is a good source for apartments. Maybe the experts find some cheaper stuff, but he has a decade long track record for solid service and reasonable pricing.
There is also Kenn at [url]http://ez-riorentals.com/[/url] ez-riorentals
Someone might try to post on good downtown hotel locations. There are cheap decent hotels right behind Cinelandia, on Senador Dantas and? Streets. In Gloria and Flamengo, you find even cheaper hotels, but they are little bit inconvenient locations. Avoid Lapa and some other bad downtown neighborhoods. Also note that downtown Rio is usually quite safe during the day and quite unsafe at night.
From my memory, September is deep winter with fairly low temperatures (for Rio of course) and very little rain. Someone please consult a climate web site and confirm.[/QUOTE]Hi Guys,
When it comes to renting apartments in Rio. If you are 2-3 guys looking for a great time and a up scale apartment. An italian guy named Ric has a great option. It's not that cheap, but I can garantuee a great time in Rio there. And the most important point. The girls love the apartment. That means. Both girls from Help and termas have returned just to hang out with you. Check out this site. [url]www.posto8.com[/url]. Good luck. And enjoy.
Chicobarca
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Negotiate. It affects us all
as lukasek's recent report suggested, many girls are asking for 400, 500 and 600 reais for an evening's worth of love.
these prices are absurd gentlemen. you can do better--even if you're older, balding and walk with a limp. and even in high season. as has been suggested, negotiate! tell her what you'll pay. if not, walk away--that's it.
one of the most astute observations i saw on this site (some time ago) was about brasil and rio in particular--what happens when all the guys start paying ridiculously high prices?
well, the answer is brasilian men get involved. they want a piece of the action. which brasilian men? like brasilian police. wasn't there just a report on the blitzes on rua rainha elizabetha? carioca cops planting powder on gringos and making them pay the fine or multa? yes these cops know that gringos are forking over major bucks and they want a part of it. taxi drivers, beach chair guys, waiters, etc. when you overpay the brasilian men want a piece of it and it ain't pleasant. this is blowback in the most classic terms.
of course places like termas' are not a place for negotiation. but beaches, cafes and the the helpee disco are where you should stick to you guns. even if you can afford it, don't add more liquidity to the system than it deserves.
thanks for reading.
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[QUOTE=Christopherd]Very handy for Carnaval Sambodrome and 20yds from 1R a minute and a few hundred yards from Lapa is a hotel off Tiradentes near Carioca station. It's opposite the Ibis hotel (which is also good, girl friendly, but nearer normal prices). The rooms are not that bright or lovely but it was only 40R a night last time I looked. [/QUOTE]
I would be worried about staying at Tiradentes, a very iffy and kind of unsafe area at night. That is why the hotels are so cheap. Of course, if you have business right there, like the sambodrome, or you really know what you are doing, go ahead.
Cinelandia area with Rua Senador Dantas, Rua Alvaro Alvim, Alcindo Guanabara etc are a little safer. There are a few hotels there, but not so rock bottom prices. But I think for 60 or so you might find something (just a guess)
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Gorgeous working girls settling for working places where they earn less money
[QUOTE=Jergens007]Hey guys. Let me ask you all something. Hopefully someone can explain this to me.
Why would a girl prefer to work at a Terma (Centaurus, Lumo, 4x4) vs finding customers at HELP?
Don't they make more money at HELP? And able to set their own hours etc?
Why would a beautiful girl work at a terma instead of help? You can only imagine they will get more money working at HELP right?
Do termas offer some kind of benefits? Like medical, life insurance etc?
What do all your girls tell you why they work at a terma vs going to HELP.
Thanks all.[/QUOTE]
the more interesting question is why some beautiful girls work at R$ 20 dives.
Some of them could work at Centaurus, lots of them could work at so why on earth do they work for half their share of R$ 20? (or half of R$ 70 at nicer executive massage parlors)
Two answers to that questions:
* the girls don't know better. karlamodels.net and cheap brothels advertise in newspapers, looking for sex workers. Termas don't
* Cheap termas tend to open at daytime. 9 am to 7pm or so. Fairly easy to tell mom you work in a store or in an office. Try to explain why you work from 10 pm to 6 am. There are not too many night shift jobs around you can deceive your family with.
Now termas vs. Help.
Some girls prefer security and controlled environment of a terma. They don't have to fight for customers in competition with dangerous jealous favela rats who often violently defend their turf in Help.
Girls can make pretty good money at a terma. 1000 to 2500 R$ a week. Let us say 150 per program for their share. 3 programs a night = R$ 350, 5 nights a week = R$ 1650.
At Help you need to pay admission, a taxi to take you home, have to follow guys who could abduct you to dangerous places. And few girls manage to do 2-3 guys in a night at Help.
I once met a girl in a strip club in the Princesa Isabel/Barbarella area (I don't know why these are not more popular with you guys, not Barbarella but the other bars nearby on Princesa isabel). She had a great D cup rack. She would charge R$ 300 for an hour, would not budge, always do 2 guys a night, thus R$ 600 a night. Seeing her D cup body in a strip got her customers very easily.
So all is preferences. Termas give security and regularity. Help gives freedom.
Now the fact that help is getting taken over by ghetto girls is an additional minus. Decent girls feel afraid to venture into that ghetto with its dangerous visitors.
In the more remote past there were many girls that went to Help, looking for a romantic relationship and potential marriage with a gringo. This seems to be much less the case now.
I knew such a girl: I brought her over from Porto Velho in Rondonia. When I kind of got tired of her, she asked to be allowed to go to Help. She did no programs, or only with marriage candidates. 3 years later she stopped by with a cute litte swedish Baby and a blue eyed husband twice or triple her age.
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[QUOTE=Christopherd]
Casarao is also almost adjacent to Tiradentes and you can get a very nice girl there at times for just a little more than the 1R a minute places opposite.
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Casarao is a great place. Rua da Carioca, an even number, probably like 44 or so (my off hand guess, not the correct number)
[QUOTE=Christopherd]
The adult cinema does strip shows and bj's in your lap as you watch but as the trannies mix with the girls in the dark there I've never taken the offer.[/QUOTE]
There are GIRLS giving blow jobs there? which girls? from where? for what price? The strippers give blow jobs?
From what I know the trannies mix with real gay men giving blow jobs. Aren't they free? sorry, I never checked this in detail. But a few years ago when I took a short cursory look, I did not see girls giving blow jobs. Please explain in detail.
I am talking about the movie theater, I think it is called cine luiz, again just a guess from my memory. It is about opposite the street from Casarao. The movie theater has some old old sex flicks and 2 strip shows per day, at certain fixed times. And it has a bunch of galleries where some raunchy activities happen.
All this is on Rua da Carioca between Carioca metro station and Praca Tiradentes.
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[QUOTE=Brazil Specialist]Casarao is a great place. Rua da Carioca, an even number, probably like 44 or so (my off hand guess, not the correct number)[/quote]
40 I think. Bright red canopy. Harder to miss than the grubby one across the road (who has a darling leaflet helper outside - Patricia I think - never been able to lay her)
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There are GIRLS giving blow jobs there? which girls?
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Yeah it surprised me too. Mostly it's trannies. But I have spotted one or two real girls - not gorgeous mind you. And I don't like negotiating in the dark anyway.
I don't think the strippers do BJs. And they are pretty ugly mostly. The place really has little to recommend it except it's a sight to behold. Also if you've been bustling around town then the porno puts you back in the mood for some shifty in No.59 as you don't exactly get much time between 'yes' and 'trousers off.'
Also it's somewhere to sit down if you just want to collect your thoughts without buying any sucos or that.
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[QUOTE]Originally Posted by Jergens007
Do termas offer some kind of benefits? Like medical, life insurance etc?[/QUOTE]The girls received paid weekly medical checkups, according to a Monte Carlo girl I dated. This is a chief benefit since condoms can't protect mongers from genital warts , and our love for BBBJs and CIM finishes. Remember, genital herpes is transfered from oral herpes.
If a woman at Help or a R$2 a hour bang hut must feed her kids, she isn't going to let herpes get between her and our money. So there is a benefit to mongers and garotas a like by the existence of high end termas. Additiinally, termas garotas receive both physical and monetary security.
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[QUOTE=Lukasek]A real. (cold) princess.
Here we are for the daily report
A sooo cute dark hair and eyes, skin white as milk a 160cm for less than 50kg, but good fake titts and so nice little, but high ass. She was alone and instead to wait if she was with somebody I started to play fast and I asked if she spoke english. So in a couple of minutes we were having a nice conversations, smiles, jokes and her english good, or bad LOL, as my english.
She is from belo horizonte, she said in holiday in Rio. Byt the conversation I started almost to think she was a semipro, cause when I asked her if we can go to see Buzios or Rio together, she said, I do not know you well.
We agree to go to help, I paid her entrance, but let to see, she was very good, she no smokes and wanted to drink only water, the kind of girl I did not see here in Rio so often, she looks normal girl. Then she said. I work here. Ok, for how much. Now. How much do you think such a girl can charge?
6--0--0 reais!
I did want to smile, but I did not, so I asked her, what she does or not does, she said, she likes to make everything clear at the beginning, so. She does no anal, big miss for Lukasek, and when I asked if she likes milk. She said on her breast yes. Hm. I was sure I did not take her and not only for the price so high, but cause she really started to behave as a princess.
You know I was almost sure I could easily get her price down. But my question was, am I gonna to get a GFE with her or not?
The answer was very easy if you consider, that I was, luckily, curious enough to ask her such an obvious question that in this case had a non obvious answer. Do you like DATY?
She said. Usually when I work I never let somebody to lick me, but I like you, so. So ok, you can lick me. At that moment I realized I did not take her neither for 50 reais, cause what I hate more is sex with such a princess, typical west european attitude.
So I told her, your price is too high and even if I like you and the connection is good, I am here 2 months so I can wait for sex. She said, she does no care about the prices of the other girls and that this is her price.
I stayed 2 hours more, she came to me another 2 times asking me why I was alone. I smiled and I said, that she is alone too.
And nobody spoke to her, she was alone all the time and went away alone, very strange cause she is really very nice, but maybe everybody already know her price.
I went then to balcony, erotica and niko's. I was so horny that I had a bit problem to fall asleep.
So at least I did not get boring even if I had no sex, I got a cheap evening.
Poka[/QUOTE]Hi Lukasek,
I was at Help on Tuesday night. I wonder if this is the same girl. Was her name Vivian? She is tall, brunette, white skin, looks more classy than the other girls there. No smoking or drinkiy. Simple but elegant. Stands by her self and always strokes her hair behind her ears. She said she was only in Rio for about 10 days and leaving in the next 2 days.
We saw 6 or 7 guys come up to her and she brushed them off. When I talked to her to see what the story was, she said she did not want to talk about dates. So why is she here? Was she working?
Eventually she did go with a couple of guys (the ones who bought her a drink) to the balcony to chat and did leave with one guy. But he was nothing special. She seemed picky and definitely like a princess!
A. R.
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[QUOTE=Jamaicanceo]Do you suspect that Centaurus charges Brazilians less than the R$400 for 40 minutes?[/QUOTE]You guys are over-thinking this gringo tax BS in termas. I'm a carioca and get charged the same R$400 as you are in Centaurus and people try to rip me off as much as any of you.
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Disagree with some of the analysis
[QUOTE=Brazil Specialist]the more interesting question is why some beautiful girls work at R$ 20 dives.
Some of them could work at Centaurus, lots of them could work at so why on earth do they work for half their share of R$ 20? (or half of R$ 70 at nicer executive massage parlors)
Two answers to that questions:
* the girls don't know better. karlamodels.net and cheap brothels advertise in newspapers, looking for sex workers. Termas don't
* Cheap termas tend to open at daytime. 9 am to 7pm or so. Fairly easy to tell mom you work in a store or in an office. Try to explain why you work from 10 pm to 6 am. There are not too many night shift jobs around you can deceive your family with.
Now termas vs. Help.
Some girls prefer security and controlled environment of a terma. They don't have to fight for customers in competition with dangerous jealous favela rats who often violently defend their turf in Help.
Girls can make pretty good money at a terma. 1000 to 2500 R$ a week. Let us say 150 per program for their share. 3 programs a night = R$ 350, 5 nights a week = R$ 1650.
At Help you need to pay admission, a taxi to take you home, have to follow guys who could abduct you to dangerous places. And few girls manage to do 2-3 guys in a night at Help.
I once met a girl in a strip club in the Princesa Isabel/Barbarella area (I don't know why these are not more popular with you guys, not Barbarella but the other bars nearby on Princesa isabel). She had a great D cup rack. She would charge R$ 300 for an hour, would not budge, always do 2 guys a night, thus R$ 600 a night. Seeing her D cup body in a strip got her customers very easily.
So all is preferences. Termas give security and regularity. Help gives freedom.
Now the fact that help is getting taken over by ghetto girls is an additional minus. Decent girls feel afraid to venture into that ghetto with its dangerous visitors.
In the more remote past there were many girls that went to Help, looking for a romantic relationship and potential marriage with a gringo. This seems to be much less the case now.
I knew such a girl: I brought her over from Porto Velho in Rondonia. When I kind of got tired of her, she asked to be allowed to go to Help. She did no programs, or only with marriage candidates. 3 years later she stopped by with a cute litte swedish Baby and a blue eyed husband twice or triple her age.[/QUOTE]
I disagree with some of the analysis of why a good looking girl would rather work in a low end terma.
I have heard and agreed with someone that a girl who works in a low end terma can makes just as much or more than a girl in a high end terma or a girl that works in Help. A girl who makes R20 for 20 minutes can stack her paper many times in one day for R20 minutes a session verses a high end terma o an all nighter at help. Its just a preference of where the girl wants to work.
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Brazilian Contributions Welcome
[QUOTE=Heyholetsgo]You guys are over-thinking this gringo tax BS in termas. I'm a carioca and get charged the same R$400 as you are in Centaurus and people try to rip me off as much as any of you.[/QUOTE]
Your knowledge, experiences and insights are very welcome. Please let us hear more from you and your Brazilian friends.
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[QUOTE=Madd Love]I disagree with some of the analysis of why a good looking girl would rather work in a low end terma.[/QUOTE]
Yeah. No rules of course, but some of them choose low of low for financial reasons too. If you know BA85 you know the second floor is the sh*ttiest. It's almost as if they pay someone to make sure no-one cleans the floor, replaces lightbulbs or, heaven forbid, wipe a mattress down. There is hardly room to fuck in the cubicles and the mattresses or too uncomfortable to lie on. But there's a girl there I've known for years who's better looking than most of the girls on the other floors that have fairly civilised surroundings at roughly the same price. I've asked why she stays there and she points out that turnover is faster than any of the other floors. It is. No-one wants to hang about having a beer. And punters don't need much encouragement to stay more than the minimum time. Then there's an escort from Barra who's worked at VM for years. Same reason. Most nights she is continually busy and just rakes the moola in without any daft travelling about and acting posh.
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[QUOTE=Always Randy]Hi Lukasek,
I was at Help on Tuesday night. I wonder if this is the same girl. Was her name Vivian? She is tall, brunette, white skin, looks more classy than the other girls there. No smoking or drinkiy. Simple but elegant. Stands by her self and always strokes her hair behind her ears. She said she was only in Rio for about 10 days and leaving in the next 2 days.
We saw 6 or 7 guys come up to her and she brushed them off. When I talked to her to see what the story was, she said she did not want to talk about dates. So why is she here? Was she working?
Eventually she did go with a couple of guys (the ones who bought her a drink) to the balcony to chat and did leave with one guy. But he was nothing special. She seemed picky and definitely like a princess!
A. R.[/QUOTE]
Hello, I do not remember her name, however I think she was the only one enough brave to ask for 600 reais. Think she was with shoes not more high than 165cm and not more than 50kg, fake breast for sure, skin totally white, from belo horizonte and she has a green shirt and blue jeans and yes look much more snob than the other girls.From then I still no more seen her, however she told me she came to live to Rio 1 year ago and she actually lives here.
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[QUOTE=Christopherd]Yeah. No rules of course, but some of them choose low of low for financial reasons too. If you know BA85 you know the second floor is the sh*ttiest. It's almost as if they pay someone to make sure no-one cleans the floor, replaces lightbulbs or, heaven forbid, wipe a mattress down. There is hardly room to fuck in the cubicles and the mattresses or too uncomfortable to lie on. But there's a girl there I've known for years who's better looking than most of the girls on the other floors that have fairly civilised surroundings at roughly the same price. I've asked why she stays there and she points out that turnover is faster than any of the other floors. It is. No-one wants to hang about having a beer. And punters don't need much encouragement to stay more than the minimum time. Then there's an escort from Barra who's worked at VM for years. Same reason. Most nights she is continually busy and just rakes the moola in without any daft travelling about and acting posh.[/QUOTE]I agree with you too, but there are many reasons they choose low end verses high end. I just wanted to point out the other side of why some of them work at low end termas.
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Low end termas
After being used to all the high end termas and now reading some reports on the low end ones, i really want to give them a try and 'new experiences, n all that' unfortunetly theres been no names addresses, anyone help me out with some info on them, location, name and general setup when inside.
Thks
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[QUOTE=Marcop 12]After being used to all the high end termas and now reading some reports on the low end ones, i really want to give them a try and 'new experiences, n all that' unfortunetly theres been no names addresses, anyone help me out with some info on them, location, name and general setup when inside.
Thks[/QUOTE]
[url]http://bitchmaps.com/index_pt.html[/url]
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gyms
Has anyone taken out short-term (one to two months) gym membership recently - what did you pay and where (not including classes) please?
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Gym's are about R80 - R140 depending on the gym. There may be a small joining fee. Whatever you do don't sign a contract for x number of months, it is a ***** to break it. Gyms are everywhere
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[QUOTE=Bubba Boy]Gym's are about R80 - R140 depending on the gym. There may be a small joining fee. Whatever you do don't sign a contract for x number of months, it is a ***** to break it. Gyms are everywhere[/QUOTE]
That sounds about right. I can never remember what I paid then the time before so have to bluff it.
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Help to close
Word is officially out that Help is closing after Carnival. I know this has been going on for years but wanted to know if anyone in Rio has heard anything? There has been News articles this month about this.
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Proforma
[QUOTE=Christopherd]Has anyone taken out short-term (one to two months) gym membership recently - what did you pay and where (not including classes) please?[/QUOTE] PROFORMA - In Impanema on Prudente de Morais just west (southwest towards Leblon) past Maria Quiteria on the right side. Excellent facilities, great staff, nice babes. Cost was about $35 for the week I seem to remember.
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[QUOTE=Madd Love]Word is officially out that Help is closing after Carnival. I know this has been going on for years but wanted to know if anyone in Rio has heard anything? There has been News articles this month about this.[/QUOTE]Shame if this is true, as I plan on arriving in May and wanted to see this place for myself!
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[QUOTE=Jake993]PROFORMA - In Impanema on Prudente de Morais just west (southwest towards Leblon) past Maria Quiteria on the right side.[/QUOTE]
Watch your ass (literally) at a gym in this area.
It's not far from Gay Farme (the area between Farme de Amoedo and Vinicius de Moraes).
;)
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[QUOTE=Madd Love]Word is officially out that Help is closing after Carnival. I know this has been going on for years but wanted to know if anyone in Rio has heard anything? There has been News articles this month about this.[/QUOTE]
Yeah it's closing , that's why they just took a month to do a big renovation there, new staircase ,new booths , the back booths are totally re-done , Of course they would do that a month before it closes.
They raised they price yesterday 25/35 to 28/38
The only thing that is consistent is every time there are rumours of it closing , the entrance price goes up.
According to one of the owners I was talking to a month ago, "yes it will close , in a few years"
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Paris cafe
A short report just to more or less suggest you to no go there....
It is far almost one hour from copacabana, taxi qith taxametr was 58 reais, it is after Barra.
Inside too music loud and too cold, really cold.
About 20 girls and.... 80 men...yes too many men and only 3 were nice girls, one amazing one but she has almost 15 men close to her all the time.
1 hour in normal room it is 210 reais.
So no cheap, no close, but no one turist and maybe I was in a non good day, cause my friend told me last year were about 20 girls and 10 men.
The only good thing, it closes to 3:00.
[url]www.pariscafe.com.br[/url]
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Relax
[QUOTE=Prosal]Watch your ass (literally) at a gym in this area.
It's not far from Gay Farme (the area between Farme de Amoedo and Vinicius de Moraes).
;)[/QUOTE]Relax Prosal - it's just around the corner from Emporio. You are more likely to get laid by a drunk non-pro than get accosted by a queer. But thanks for the Gay Watch warning.
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[QUOTE=Apocalpso]Yeah it's closing , that's why they just took a month to do a big renovation there, new staircase ,new booths , the back booths are totally re-done , Of course they would do that a month before it closes.
They raised they price yesterday 25/35 to 28/38
The only thing that is consistent is every time there are rumours of it closing , the entrance price goes up.
According to one of the owners I was talking to a month ago, "yes it will close , in a few years"[/QUOTE]
If they do close after carnival all the business in the area may be hit hard, because that is a central location for mongers. Now mongers might want to stay closer to Terma's, or other spots. Maybe that's what the government wanted?? just to move the GDP action away from that area to another area. You are right what a great time to start doing reservations and raising the entrance fee.
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How many girls in Help use drugs ?
Hi all,
yesterday I took for the first time in the 2 weeks a girl from help to my apartment. She was very nice, tall and thin blond and the time was about 3:00, she looked normal, no drunk, we had a nice conversation for almost one hour so I was prettu sure I could have NO trouble with her, but....
First of all inside the taxi, the driver asked me if I want drug...obviously I said no as I never took drugs in all my life, surely I do not start at 34yo, but the problems started later in the flat....
Once we arrived she opened her handbag and take out from little plastic white powder...I asked her, what are you doing, she very calm said, no problem, we do half and half..
In that moment I realized that if police stopped me, I could have some troubles...but however I had to go out of that situation... I told her, go back home and do what you want, but surely in my flat forget to take it !
She started to get a bit crazy and to offend me, she said:" how is it possible I found the only one that does not like cocaine? You do not know what you are gonna to lose !"
She again said: " let's take it, try it and you will see, we will fuck till morning as you never did before ". When I said no ! She first started to offend me, to tell I am stupid and so on, later when she saw I was really calm and I just told her, here you have 50 reais, go back to help and you will find another one, she started to cry and to say that I do not like her, that she feels ugly and so on....
Shit...the last thing I need to have a pro with cocaine crying loud in my flat at the morning....
After about one hour I was able to send her out with 50 reais, actually to get her out it look to me as a bargain and I immediately felt very good, but my question here is.... if a normal girl with normal face, no make up, no drunk, with a face I could describe just "water and soap" is drug addict and if the first girl I took from Help in 2 weeks here had cocaine in her handbag....how many girls, that look more hardcore pro use cocaine in help ???????
Maybe I will take out of help another one girl, but I will try to pay even more attention, cause what I had really now scare me, cause even if you get your eyes open it cannot be enough here in Rio.
And btw All the night I drink no alcol, just coca cola and water, cause I have a bit of flu for the cold I took at paris cafe, so I was no drunk, neither a little.
Keep eyes open dear friends and have, safe, fun.
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Just because she had some coke does not mean she is a drug addict. If you steer away from every working girl in the world that does a toot or smokes a joint you will have very slim pickings to chose from. Maybe you don't do any drugs but put yourself in her place. She has to sleep with whatever slob (not saying that you are) in the world that will pay her. Don't you think she deserves at least a small crutch to stand on. If you were aware of the percentage of working girls that use drugs it would scare you. As long as she isn't jabbing needles in her arm have fun with her and say goodbye. I think you are being a little paranoid.
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May I disagree
[QUOTE=Beavis]Just because she had some coke does not mean she is a drug addict. If you steer away from every working girl in the world that does a toot or smokes a joint you will have very slim pickings to chose from. Maybe you don't do any drugs but put yourself in her place. She has to sleep with whatever slob (not saying that you are) in the world that will pay her. Don't you think she deserves at least a small crutch to stand on. If you were aware of the percentage of working girls that use drugs it would scare you. As long as she isn't jabbing needles in her arm have fun with her and say goodbye. I think you are being a little paranoid.[/QUOTE]
Let's look at this from another point of view.
1. That GDP put a monger in a situation that might have ended really bad. Police doesn't really care in whose posession the drugs are.
2. There are lots of GDP's who do not use drugs.
Say what ever you want, but cocaine is very strong and addictive drug. Nobody should use it.
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I forgot...
...cause I wrote it fast, one of tons of excuses?/things I tried to tell her was:" I am afraid you will feel bad ", her answer was, are you joking ? It is more than 10 years I use it, I enjoy it, it makes me feel so good and so free and you should try it too...
Beavis after 10 years of mongering was the first time a pro wanted to take cocaine in my flat in front of me, so maybe I look like as naive, but sorry I am not paranoid if I did not like it.
Perkele....thanks...
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Bummer
[QUOTE=Lukasek]...cause I wrote it fast, one of tons of excuses?/things I tried to tell her was:" I am afraid you will feel bad ", her answer was, are you joking ? It is more than 10 years I use it, I enjoy it, it makes me feel so good and so free and you should try it too...
Beavis after 10 years of mongering was the first time a pro wanted to take cocaine in my flat in front of me, so maybe I look like as naive, but sorry I am not paranoid if I did not like it.
Perkele....thanks...[/QUOTE]Yeah that's a bummer. I usually like to steer clear of the coke heads. No big deal but it's just not my thing although I have always wondered what it would be like to screw a babe who's ripped out of her head.
It's always a bummer when you pick wrong..... especially when they are hot looking. Just goes to show you, "You can't judge a book by the cover". All the more reason to INTERVIEW thoroughly.
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Tall blonde Help girl
[QUOTE=Lukasek]Hi all,
yesterday I took for the first time in the 2 weeks a girl from help to my apartment. She was very nice, tall and thin blond and the time was about 3:00, she looked normal, no drunk, we had a nice conversation for almost one hour so I was pretty sure I could have NO trouble with her, but....
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Hi Lukasek,
I was at help at the same time. I think I know which tall (thin) blonde you mean. She has a nice body, but the skin on her face is a little 'bad' (as in many spots) and looks a bit red. She looks quite european and very sexy btw. I spent time with her in 2007 and was amazed to see she still frequents HELP. I do not know if she was on anything in 2007, but she did feel a bit 'nervous' and she may have been using stuff.
Just know that you can find nice girls at help, but there are plenty 'nasty' ones too that just wanna do a quick job and go back to help asap. So make clear that is you pay her a certain amount for 2 hours (say 100-200 reais) she knows she should stay the whole time, and not leave after she makes you cum. I also always ask if the girl does everything. (voce faz tudo?) Yesterday I forgot to ask that very basic question and it turned out there many thing my girl would not do. Including kissing, which is a must for me.
That is the advantage of the termas and escort services. You are almost always sure the girl does everything. (or almost everything)
Did you have any experiences yet with escort?
I had a real nice session today with a girl from CIAPLUS.
enjoy,
Dutch44
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Help report
Hi all,
I took out several girls from Help this week. 1 bad, 3 good. This afternoon I spent 90 minutes with a help girl who almost felt like a non-pro or natural, for just 100 R$.
It has been said many times. Don't overpay. I think the going rate is some 100 r$ for 1 hour, and 200 for 2-3 hours and 300 for whole night. (plus taxi)
Deeper into the night (say after 02h00) you can negotiate that down more. Of course there are princesses that think they should get 500 or more. Dont do it. 500 r$ is more than a minimum monthly wage here. It would be crazy.
Just make sure you scan the girl well and do not let her take too much initiative, or she may think you are a stupid gringo. Then make clear agreements on how much you pay and how long she will stay. Also make sure you know what she will and will not do. Perhaps even write it down on paper.
After that: show the girl respect and treat her well, most garotas will treat you likewise if you do this.
Always negotiate with the garota. Don't overpay. Or did I already say this?
BTW Help prices went up yesterday to 28r$ before midnight and 38 r$ after midnight.
have fun,
Dutch
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Discoteca Help
Does anyone know if Help is closing for good?
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[QUOTE=Perkele]Let's look at this from another point of view.
1. That GDP put a monger in a situation that might have ended really bad. Police doesn't really care in whose posession the drugs are.
2. There are lots of GDP's who do not use drugs.
Say what ever you want, but cocaine is very strong and addictive drug. Nobody should use it.[/QUOTE]
I was at a beach party aa few years ago in Copa. There were a few people smoking a little maryjane. I didn't care, but refused when I was offered. There were about 100 people there, where the drinks were many. I knew a few girls, and that that was it. Other than that, I haven't actually seen anyone doing drugs. I hear stories, but stay away from that scene.
"Cocaine is a hell of a drug...................................."
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[QUOTE=Tommy Boy]Does anyone know if Help is closing for good?[/QUOTE]
Yes it is.
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[QUOTE=Beavis]....She has to sleep with whatever slob (not saying that you are) in the world that will pay her....I think you are being a little paranoid.[/QUOTE]
She doesn't HAVE to sleep with anybody. She CHOOSES to sleep with whomever she does. Let's dispense with this paternalistic bullshit and start treating these girls like the adults that they are. And I don't think Lukasek is being paranoid at all. Being in the company of someone possessing drugs makes you a perfect target for a police shakedown.
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[QUOTE=Tommy Boy]Does anyone know if Help is closing for good?[/QUOTE]There ought to be a "Help Rumor Closing Forum" so the same question can be asked and answered over and over by those who are worried the most about Help closing.
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[QUOTE=Lukasek]...cause I wrote it fast, one of tons of excuses?/things I tried to tell her was:" I am afraid you will feel bad ", her answer was, are you joking ? It is more than 10 years I use it, I enjoy it, it makes me feel so good and so free and you should try it too...
Beavis after 10 years of mongering was the first time a pro wanted to take cocaine in my flat in front of me, so maybe I look like as naive, but sorry I am not paranoid if I did not like it.
Perkele....thanks...[/QUOTE]Lukasek,
This is my thinking: when a garota is in my flat she is my guest. Therefore, she can either do what I say for the agreed price, or get the hell out of my apartment. And this "crap" about "you don't like me"? And some add a few tears behind it. So what. Most of the young garotas pull that crap. You are not in Rio to waste your time with BS. Not even the, "I got to help my family" line is your problem.
I am not saying to be mean, but some of those girls will get away with what you allow. Drugs is a definite "no no"! The minute one of them opens a vial of drugs or a joint, she can give the Brazilian Police a blow-job, and more, to prevent herself from getting arrested. What can you do? So kick her out of your flat off the bat. And if you see her again, pay attention to who she socialize with. These girls have a network. If one uses drugs, then most likely her friends do drugs. And in some cases, the police know them.
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[QUOTE=Lorenzo]She doesn't HAVE to sleep with anybody. She CHOOSES to sleep with whomever she does. Let's dispense with this paternalistic bullshit and start treating these girls like the adults that they are. And I don't think Lukasek is being paranoid at all. Being in the company of someone possessing drugs makes you a perfect target for a police shakedown.[/QUOTE]
You are right she doesn't have to she chooses to but after a girl has crossed that line less than .0001 % can ever go back to the other side. If you choose to patronize working girls/garotas/putas/hookers/prostitutes/jineteras or whatever word in whatever language you so desire to use there are very few that don't use drugs. If being around (insert your preferred word here) that use drugs makes you paranoid your playground will be very small.
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[QUOTE=Lukasek]...cause I wrote it fast, one of tons of excuses?/things I tried to tell her was:" I am afraid you will feel bad ", her answer was, are you joking ? It is more than 10 years I use it, I enjoy it, it makes me feel so good and so free and you should try it too...
Beavis after 10 years of mongering was the first time a pro wanted to take cocaine in my flat in front of me, so maybe I look like as naive, but sorry I am not paranoid if I did not like it.
Perkele....thanks...[/QUOTE]
Hey I agree with you and no they don't usually pull it out but most working girls use drugs to some extent. I have mongered in many countries all over the world and even in small villages in West Africa you will find the girls use some kind of stimulation. They usually don't pull it out because they are stingy with their stash.
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Way too high of a price.
Hey there are more girls than that asking 600 reais. I was at Help the 22nd, 23rd, 24th, and 25th of Jan. On the night of the 25th a short girl got my attention. To be honest, I would not have given her a second look going through the club. She is short with light brown hair, nice boobs and not a very nice ass. We got to chatting and to be honest she was very friendly. She spoke good english telling me that she only goes with American men. Tells me how much she wants out of Brazil. I believe she was sincere. Then she tells me she wants 600 reais for all night. I countered with 200 which probably too high. She went down to 500 and I went to 250. I probably should have walked away when she said 600. She then went to 400 and I went to 300 and was not budging another inch. I then told her that was my final offer and I am not going above 300. She says for 300 she would come to my apartment the next day but made no mention of for how long. I told her no thank you. I then said I would be around here for another hour and then going back to apartment along unless I find someone. I told her if she changes her mind to let me know before I hooked up with another. All along she kept playing the you do not like me card since I would not take her on her offer. I liked her personality and I think she would been good fun, but price was too much. So off I went to find someone else.
I found a girl I had chatted with briefly two nights before. The girl who offered 600 reais for alll night had said she would get her phone number for me. I was like ok. By the time I saw her again, I was with another girl and about to walk out of the place. I walked right by her and she gave me the dirtiest nastiest look on her face. It was her damn fault for being so greedy. She had mentioned during the conversation that she does not go home with someone every night. Yeah, no kidding. Only a fool would pay her 600 for all night.
[QUOTE=Lukasek]Hello, I do not remember her name, however I think she was the only one enough brave to ask for 600 reais. Think she was with shoes not more high than 165cm and not more than 50kg, fake breast for sure, skin totally white, from belo horizonte and she has a green shirt and blue jeans and yes look much more snob than the other girls.From then I still no more seen her, however she told me she came to live to Rio 1 year ago and she actually lives here.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Beavis]You are right she doesn't have to she chooses to but after a girl has crossed that line less than .0001 % can ever go back to the other side. If you choose to patronize working girls/garotas/putas/hookers/prostitutes/jineteras or whatever word in whatever language you so desire to use there are very few that don't use drugs. If being around (insert your preferred word here) that use drugs makes you paranoid your playground will be very small.[/QUOTE]This time off year upto 50 % off the women in help use cocaine, as alot off the girls there are back from europe etc. (party girls). Fewer will use it after easter.
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[QUOTE=Orebell]All along she kept playing the you do not like me card since I would not take her on her offer.[/QUOTE]
I love that line. The chunky pale twins Julia and Juliana love to say that. There must be a garota training academy somewhere in Rio.
[QUOTE=Orebell]I walked right by her and she gave me the dirtiest nastiest look on her face. [/QUOTE]I also like it when a garota that you've session with sees you around Rio with another on your arm. They act jealous as if they are in a relationship with you. They may even say they saw you with another girl. I usually reply to the english speakers, "And!" Too many mongers get wimpy with the GDP. I'm not saying to be arrogant, but don't be to easy.
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[QUOTE=Orebell]Hey there are more girls than that asking 600 reais. I was at Help the 22nd, 23rd, 24th, and 25th of Jan. On the night of the 25th a short girl got my attention. To be honest, I would not have given her a second look going through the club. She is short with light brown hair, nice boobs and not a very nice ass. We got to chatting and to be honest she was very friendly. She spoke good english telling me that she only goes with American men. Tells me how much she wants out of Brazil. I believe she was sincere. Then she tells me she wants 600 reais for all night. I countered with 200 which probably too high. She went down to 500 and I went to 250. I probably should have walked away when she said 600. She then went to 400 and I went to 300 and was not budging another inch. I then told her that was my final offer and I am not going above 300. She says for 300 she would come to my apartment the next day but made no mention of for how long. I told her no thank you. I then said I would be around here for another hour and then going back to apartment along unless I find someone. I told her if she changes her mind to let me know before I hooked up with another. All along she kept playing the you do not like me card since I would not take her on her offer. I liked her personality and I think she would been good fun, but price was too much. So off I went to find someone else.
I found a girl I had chatted with briefly two nights before. The girl who offered 600 reais for alll night had said she would get her phone number for me. I was like ok. By the time I saw her again, I was with another girl and about to walk out of the place. I walked right by her and she gave me the dirtiest nastiest look on her face. It was her damn fault for being so greedy. She had mentioned during the conversation that she does not go home with someone every night. Yeah, no kidding. Only a fool would pay her 600 for all night.[/QUOTE]
Wow those girls are reaching for the stars with those prices. That is the thing with independent GDP's, they will quote a far fetch price to see if a gringo will go for it, or accept the first offer. I have a firm or a set price for the night too & depending on how my interaction with the girl is. A quote for R600 sounds like a price for a few days not one night.
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$$$
I'm not supprised of how the prices develop. If some guys still believe they are in the US and are willing to overpay, the prices will go up further. Why should a girl be satisfied with 600R when she can find idiots willing to pay 700R? You can observe this development for years.
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What happened to me.
I had a sort of funny situation happen with me recently. I picked up this 22 year old girl from Help last week. The story she told me was she is on vacation from work and is just picking up a few extra bucks at Help. She says she works as a secretary. I have no reason to not believe her. I get her back to my apartment and I forgot to put some newer towels in the bathroom for her. She comes out of the bathroom asking me who's towel this is with all the make up on it. Oh shit, I got a psycho one on my hands is what I am thinking. I hemmed and hawed and laughed a bit and told her it was my mother's. And I went to get her a fresh towel. She kept asking me about it with this sly smile on her face so I had a good feeling she was just razzing me but not serious. I then said to her that I thought she said she did not like the jealous type. She had mentioned to me earlier that the reason she broke up with her boyfriend was because he was too jealous all the time. Hmm, I wonder why he might be jealous. When I reminded of her what she said, she sort of laughed and went into the bathroom to shower and that was the end of it. Honestly I think she was just playing around with me and maybe it was some sort of turn on for her.
I honest thought perhaps I got a real inexperienced one on my hands here and things are not going to be fun tonight. She comes out of the bathroom after her shower in just her towel and within 2 minutes had the towel off and I was licking her nipples. She was a little hottie.
The little vixen had me up 4 hours later wondering what she and I were going to do today. I was like sleep would be good. But she wanted to go down the the beach. So I dragged myself out of bed and spent about 3 hours with her down at the beach. She had to go do some stuff with her family that day and then off she went. I almost had her talked back into coming back up to the apartment for a quickie but she did not give in and left to go be with her family.
All in all she was fun. It is not too often a 44 year old guy gets to screw a 22 year old girl and then sleep with her and hang out with her for a bit down at the beach. It was fun.
[QUOTE=Jamaicanceo]I love that line. The chunky pale twins Julia and Juliana love to say that. There must be a garota training academy somewhere in Rio.
I also like it when a garota that you've session with sees you around Rio with another on your arm. They act jealous as if they are in a relationship with you. They may even say they saw you with another girl. I usually reply to the english speakers, "And!" Too many mongers get wimpy with the GDP. I'm not saying to be arrogant, but don't be to easy.[/QUOTE]
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Dude. How do you think she felt. LMAO. Maybe she thought its not often a 22 yr. Old girl gets to screw a 44 yr old guy also. But we talkin about Brazil. LMAO!
All in all she was fun. It is not too often a 44 year old guy gets to screw a 22 year old girl and then sleep with her and hang out with her for a bit down at the beach. It was fun.[/QUOTE]
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helpee
I have to laugh all the stupid Guys in Help who believe all the “I’m a student” or “I don’t live in Rio” crap. I have often chatted to and played a game with my puta friends. We’d make up stories to tell the Guys, each story getting one more ridiculous. If the guy believes it I get a wink. Great laugh.
It is simply amazing how guys think they are in a real disco club not a *****house. Getting all puffed up and thinking they are special because some Puta likes their cash.
Ordinary Brazilians say about Help “Where the worst of Brazil meets the worst of the world”. Yes if they know you go to Help they think you are a piece of dirt. Who cares! I love Help as you get a real predatory type of ho there, I love them.
One point of caution, ever notice how few Brazilian men go to Help, while the Termas are full of them, ever wonder why? While there are many reasons one answer is HIV and other sexually transmitted diseases. You ever see an ex -Termas girl in Help, that can mean she failed the health check, don’t purchase her.
Over the last week or so I rented 4 girls from Help, all good. I paid no more than R$300 (all night) and as low as R$150 (bang & return). All did bbbj cim, anal, and licked my ass (always check in advance).
I often take a girl out for a 1 hour quickie for R$150, have to get there early and take them before 1pm, me and the girl return about 2pm. Many times they look for me to pay the entrance, haha, do they think I’m a fool, no way baby. They still will go with me the next time I want them for a quickie. They usually pick a guy up later so they are all happy.
Later in the night after 3am you can get all-nighters for R$300 or less. Always negotiate with the garota, you get some respect, they don’t respect stupid gringos. A good technique is to tell them you have been to Villa Mimosa (R$28 for fuck and suck) earlier that day, and ask them why they are worth more. Sets the transaction in context!
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Cancun
When to Termas Cancun last night, there was not much choice of girls and only a few guys. I took a big-titted 19 year old for an hour. Her name was Mez, she did anal etc and was ok.
When I paid my bill they receptionist left me R$5 short, when I pointed this out to them they said “tip for us” I said “why what service did you give me?” and “You must think I’m American?” They laughed and gave me my money back.
What stupid assholes are tipping receptionist/doormen in Rio? Waiters and girls maybe, but receptionists!! This is only ever done by Americans.
This type of “I just f&*ked a hottie and feel so good I throw my cash away” thinking gives the country a bad reputation.
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Yesterday at help....
....obviously after the cocaine girl I wanted something good, I spoke with about 4 girls, besides the price from 400 till 300, the problem was that there was no chemistry, just a couple of minutes of conversation and then they asked me, let's go or not ? I hate such a cold beginning, in my experience seldom you get a GFE when it starts like this.
When I was almost thinking to go home alone and thinking too that to open a terma from midnight till 7:00 am could be a good idea....I noticed a slim blonde cute girl...she stand alone, no smile, no dance...I thought, let's try....when I asked her if she speak english, she said, of course....
We take 2 drinks and we immediately went to sit down out and we had more than one hour of conversation, slowly touching and later kissing, I had the feeling I was went back when I was teenager, the feeling to be with a regular.
She told me that she works in Germany and that she is here for holiday.
I thought...after the cocaine girl I wanted to try do it in different way...I did no ask for the price, I did not ask for the service, I did no ask for how long time and why ???
Cause there was a wonderful chemistry hardly you build in so little time with an unknown person till a while ago.
Maybe I was crazy, usually I ask in advance even too much things, cause I hate to pay without know what I am gonna to buy, but this time, I thought to ask was the fastest way to break down the chemistry, so I decided to trust the way we feel good and confortable each other.
How it ends ?
Now it is 16:37 and she left my flat a while ago....ok there was no anal, but was so good sex, so nice conversation and when she went to take the shower I was in toilet too to wash my teeth and when I was in shower I asked her to stay in toilet so we could keep on have conversation, I am sure she did no take drugs.
She slept in my arms in so sweet way I still hardly believe I took her from help. We had sex 3 times, but she almost allow me to do all what I wanted, the second time, she was deep sleeping and I woke up her with DATY and we went forward...
The bad thing ? Maybe you think the price, but, the bad thing here is that out of help we went to the similar mac donald you find on the right, immediately 3 children close to us....she said no problem but I with my hands I made them to stay apart from my body...when one fast as a rabbit literally jump against her, pick up her chain at her throat and while he was landing he pull down with his light weight of the child he was, but more than enough to broke the chain. A while later he was running away....I was shocked, so fast he did.
It should be a very bad sign for me, cause what the price I was gonna to pay that she lost her chain too ? But with class, she neither a bit sad or impressed, said, in half hour of work in Germany I will buy another one gold chain, this is why I love europe...
Ok to make long short....when she said goodbye at 16:00, remember more than 12 hours together...., I asked her, tell me.....she said, I work more than enough in German, I went with you cause I like you and if I did not feel good with you, surely I did not sleep all the morning....but still she did not want to say the price....again I asked her, how much ? She said, is it ok 200 ?
I said yes, it is ok and so far as I gave her only 2 banknote of 100 reais each, she kindly asked 10 reais for taxi, that surely could have not to change the 100 reais.
So....I have her e mail, we should meet in germany or I told her I invited her to my hometown, cause... she is drug free, she drunk 2 beers and 1 water with me at help, when usually girls try to drink as fish, she is very sweety, good english....she seems to me a sort of diamond in help considering the sharks I spoke with in the last 2 weeks....
So yes...even with 200 reais you can have wonderful time here, even if it takes a lot of time to find the right girl, to me it happens yesterday and it is from 13 january that I go to help every night....
So 2 girls from help, 1 cocaine girl, second one the sweety one....I am curious to see the third one I will take out...
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[QUOTE=Lukasek]
... and it is from 13 january that I go to help every night....
So 2 girls from help, 1 cocaine girl, second one the sweety one....I am curious to see the third one I will take out...[/QUOTE]
Within 2 weeks you only picked 2 girls from help? So help doesn't seem to be the best place for you in terms of girls. If you are in Rio strictly for mongering there might be better options for you.
PJ
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[QUOTE=Langer]When to Termas Cancun last night, there was not much choice of girls and only a few guys. I took a big-titted 19 year old for an hour. Her name was Mez, she did anal etc and was ok.
When I paid my bill they receptionist left me R$5 short, when I pointed this out to them they said “tip for us” I said “why what service did you give me?” and “You must think I’m American?” They laughed and gave me my money back.
What stupid assholes are tipping receptionist/doormen in Rio? Waiters and girls maybe, but receptionists!! This is only ever done by Americans.
This type of “I just f&*ked a hottie and feel so good I throw my cash away” thinking gives the country a bad reputation.[/QUOTE]When I was at Cancun the attendants near the showers ad a box wrapped in Christmas paper, I was in Rio Dec. 3 - 15, and they kept bugging me about putting moeny in their box. Now all I had on is a bathrobe. So I go to my locker got R$5.00, showed it to them and put it in the box. Why? Because they could make your stay there bad with the girls.
I didn't want to tip them, but what choice do you have when they could put poison in yor game while you are there. Small change can go a long way. That's why you tip the right people. Most employees at termas are close, and I think Americans and Europeans, alike, get pegged as rich arrogant assholes by the locals.
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Lukasek,
You need to find a good WINGMAN before you get into trouble. You have too many bad incidents, and you seem to look for chemistry. Stay out of Rio during holidays, or the garotas will have you playing Santa Claus with your mongering budget.
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Diamonds
[QUOTE=Pyjama]Within 2 weeks you only picked 2 girls from help? So help doesn't seem to be the best place for you in terms of girls. If you are in Rio strictly for mongering there might be better options for you.
PJ[/QUOTE]PJ - Lukasek is hunting diamonds while the rest of us are happy with pebbles ;)
I agree with you - perhaps Rio is NOT the best place for him.
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i do hope lukasek will find some more diamonds, but obviously he should look for them in different places, other than helpee.
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[QUOTE=Jake993] perhaps Rio is NOT the best place for him.[/QUOTE]
I've told it several time to Luka.
Why he has the balls to venture and linger in provincial Russia (which requires HUGE balls indeed!) and on the other hand during his trip to Brasil stays in Copacabana (which is only a mass prostitution mecca filled with unadventurous *****mongers and hardened and ugly favela hoes) is beyond me.
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Pijama,
2 girls from help and 7 from termas plus one from sweetpussy,6 from termas were great,but ok Rio is not my place....this is why I will leave very soon....finally :)
Jamaicanceo,
sorry....too many bad incidents are what ? A girl from help that takes cocaine it seems, reading the thread here, something very normal, so no bad incident, but just the routine.
Yesterday she got robbed and not me, second it seems to me pretty naive that a brazilian girl dress gold chain and me, turist here, neither a cheap plastic clock....to be robbed if you dress a gold chain here, it is not a incident, but what you deserve....people sleep in the streets, almost no money to eat and then we should be surprised if we got robbed when we show them "food for one month" (a gold chain I suppose is really food for one month for them...)....and btw I told her, out of help immediately inside a taxi, she said, I am hungry, lets go there....another paradox a turist that suggest a brazilian girl what to do....
Jake993,
you know me so well and I promise you, next time I will follow your suggests from the beginning...
Prosal,
you know me too, yes, maybe you do not believe me, but speaking Russian was almost easier to go to Sibiria than to move here where nobody understand english. Again after so long travelling in Russia, I noticed I got a bit lazy, to pack again clothes and change city, my idea was 2 months in Rio with maybe see one different city. My fault that I did not understand that Rio is one of the most overrated place, good for just a fast fuck with girl with busted face or with a belly bigger than her breast if not fake breast,you got real so low quality here, I cannot understand how so many person LOVE Rio and even less I understand what I see every day....
I would like to take one after one some man I see with skank girl here, to Piter to have one hour with a girl from photomodeli... I am sure they will have immediately heart attack....
Believe me Prosal....it is only cause I was lazy, and cause I had no time to plan well this travel..., I thougth as this travel as to take rest and stay in Rio, now I will use again my big balls that gave me the chance to go alone to Sibiria and I will make even this travel, as the last one, really worth it....it is a promise !!!
p.s. sometimes better I will decide to go back to work too ;) however I am sure, worst than here it cannot be LOL
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[QUOTE=Lukasek] Rio is one of the most overrated place, good for just a fast fuck with girl with busted face or with a belly bigger than her breast if not fake breast,you got real so low quality here, I cannot understand how so many person LOVE Rio and even less I understand what I see every day....now I will use again the my big balls ....it is a promise !!![/QUOTE]
I thoroughly share your thoughts about Copacabana. Nonetheless remember that Copa is a very small and very unrepresentative part of Brasil.
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[QUOTE=Lukasek]Pijama,
2 girls from help and 7 from termas plus one from sweetpussy,6 from termas were great,but ok Rio is not my place....this is why I will leave very soon....finally :)
Jamaicanceo,
sorry....too many bad incidents are what ? A girl from help that takes cocaine it seems, reading the thread here, something very normal, so no bad incident, but just the routine.
Yesterday she got robbed and not me, second it seems to me pretty naive that a brazilian girl dress gold chain and me, turist here, neither a cheap plastic clock....to be robbed if you dress a gold chain here, it is not a incident, but what you deserve....people sleep in the streets, almost no money to eat and then we should be surprised if we got robbed when we show them "food for one month" (a gold chain I suppose is really food for one month for them...)....and btw I told her, out of help immediately inside a taxi, she said, I am hungry, lets go there....another paradox a turist that suggest a brazilian girl what to do....
Jake993,
you know me so well and I promise you, next time I will follow your suggests from the beginning...
Prosal,
you know me too, yes, maybe you do not believe me, but speaking Russian was almost easier to go to Sibiria than to move here where nobody understand english. Again after so long travelling in Russia, I noticed I got a bit lazy, to pack again clothes and change city, my idea was 2 months in Rio with maybe see one different city. My fault that I did not understand that Rio is one of the most overrated place, good for just a fast fuck with girl with busted face or with a belly bigger than her breast if not fake breast,you got real so low quality here, I cannot understand how so many person LOVE Rio and even less I understand what I see every day....
I would like to take one after one some man I see with skank girl here, to Piter to have one hour with a girl from photomodeli... I am sure they will have immediately heart attack....
Believe me Prosal....it is only cause I was lazy, and cause I had no time to plan well this travel..., I thougth as this travel as to take rest and stay in Rio, now I will use again my big balls that gave me the chance to go alone to Sibiria and I will make even this travel, as the last one, really worth it....it is a promise !!!
p.s. sometimes better I will decide to go back to work too ;) however I am sure, worst than here it cannot be LOL[/QUOTE]
This is why it is essential to learn something about the culture AND language of the country you plan on visiting .
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Lukasek's experience in Rio
[QUOTE=Prosal]
Originally Posted by Lukasek
Rio is one of the most overrated place, good for just a fast fuck with girl with busted face or with a belly bigger than her breast if not fake breast,you got real so low quality here, I cannot understand how so many person LOVE Rio and even less I understand what I see every day....now I will use again the my big balls ....it is a promise !!!
;)[/QUOTE]
Hi Lukasek,
I just read your post. I don't quite agree with your conclusion. It really depends on who you choose and where you go in Rio. There are plenty places besides Help where you can find very very nice garotas. Even at Help you can succeed. Anyway, my experience is different from yours. (been here many times) However you are right that very few speak english. I speak some portuguese and that makes a BIG difference. If you can talk and joke with them a little, it will not be a 'fast fuck' as you call it, but more of a girlfriend experience (GFE). Today I visited 4x4 in Centro. I spent 1 hour with a tall blonde 23 year old supermodel of the kind that you normally only see on expensive glossy magazines. And she had no inhibitions!
She spoke some english. Because I went to the room before 17h00 the entrance fee was free. Total cost including suite, girl and 1 drink: 205 R$.....that's less than 70 euro! Man, I know no place on earth where you can find that so easily. Its fairly easy to get there from Copa. Just take the metro to Uruguiana station (a 25 minute ride), and go to Rua Buenos Aires, 44, some 10 minutes away if you walk. Directions you will find on the forum. But perhaps you've already been there.
So I hope you have time to visit other places in Rio, like 4x4. Otherwise your experience will be limited just to Copa. Copa can be good and copa can be pretty bad as well. But maybe Rio is just not your thing. It's possible.
enjoy,
Dutch44
PS: Just out of curiosity, what is your favorite place, if I may ask?
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[quote=lukasek]jamaicanceo,
sorry. too many bad incidents are what? a girl from help that takes cocaine it seems, reading the thread here, something very normal, so no bad incident, but just the routine.
yesterday she got robbed and not me, second it seems to me pretty naive that a brazilian girl dress gold chain and me, turist here, neither a cheap plastic clock. to be robbed if you dress a gold chain here, it is not a incident, but what you deserve. people sleep in the streets, almost no money to eat and then we should be surprised if we got robbed when we show them "food for one month" (a gold chain i suppose is really food for one month for them.). and btw i told her, out of help immediately inside a taxi, she said, i am hungry, lets go there. another paradox a turist that suggest a brazilian girl what to do.[/quote]first, you are traveling to monger territory looking for a girl friend experience.
second, you seem to always talk about help. when i go to rio help is my last option, it's not the best of rio.
help is the fast lane slow poke. get out of the fast lane.
when i do go to help, i've never pulled out a girl who even smokes a cigarette. then i do not let the princesses run the gdp. it seems like you have the gdp backwards. you have the dick, therore, you call the shots. "you don't like me," fuck that!
third, i go to copacabana for easy pussy, and the rest of brazil for brazil, and some pussy too, but not in ground zero. copacabana is not the place for gfe. sometimes you get lucky. on my first-trip i had a nice 18year-old, 5'-8" curvicious gold haired, gold skinned garota, and we communicated with a dictionary and internet cafe online translation. she didn't smoke or drink, and never asked for money. although i did give her some reals because she would travel from botofogo by bus to visit me. but she had a kid like most of the gdp, she was an unemployed manicurist, and she spoke no english. she was great for the first trip, but chemistry or not, are you in rio to fall in love.
maybe if you travel out of copacabana and look for an educated girl who works for some institution and goes to roman catholic church every day of the we, but doesn't mind sucking your dick, taking it in the ass, cim, etc. but not at helpee.
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Live music and football do not mix!!
I went to shenanigans a couple of weeks ago to watch the payoffs, its was my first time there. The crowd was good and the food was excellant. However, they had a girl singing with a loud ass guitar during the fucking game!! Even though she was very good, it was annoying as hell! There were even some Americans booing and asking her to shut up, so they could concentrate on the game.
I am headed there again tomorrow for the Super Bowl, hopefully, they wont have any live entertainment during the game.
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[quote=].. an educated girl who works for some institution and goes to roman catholic church every day of the we, but doesn't mind sucking your dick, taking it in the ass, cim, etc. but not at helpee.[/quote]
you can find that at helpee, if you are lucky. i did get that lucky a couple of times.:)
out of 12 times at helpeee, 2 bad, 2 so so, and 8 good experiences.
not a bad ratio.
we all have our own gfe and pornstar fantasies.
some mongers need to feel as if they were 'loved' by the gdp.
some of us have been around all that and more, and pay the girls leave at the end, not stay.
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[quote=jamaicanceo]maybe if you travel out of copacabana and look for an educated girl who works for some institution and goes to roman catholic church every day of the we, but doesn't mind sucking your dick, taking it in the ass, cim, etc. but not at helpee.[/quote]
you can find that in copa, if you are lucky. i did get that lucky a couple of times.:)
out of 12 times at helpee, 2 bad, 2 so so, and 8 good experiences.
not a bad ratio.
we all have our own gfe and pornstar fantasies.
some mongers need to feel as if they were 'loved' by the cocksucking, ass-licking, cim gdps.
some of us have been around all that and more, and pay the girls to leave at the end, not stay.
whatever floats your boat:)
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Beginners guide and tips for HELP disco-Copacabana
rio, beginners guide and tips for help - copacabana - january 2009
well.....whatever people think about help, it's there and it does have some advantages too. it's a great disco and the atmosphere can be magic at times.
anyway, because this forum is about 'working girls', i thought i create a short list of information and tips for 'beginners' visiting rio for the first time and going to help. it's based on my own experiences and my point of view and some of you may disagree with it or have additional tips. be my guest. most of what i wrote can be found in bits an pieces on this forum or is just plain obvious for the 'experienced' mongers. but still i hope it may be useful to some.
1) help is easy to find at the avenida atlântica in copacabana and there are plenty hotels or apartments close to it. any taxi driver will know it. it opens at 23h00 and closes around 04h00 or 05h00. entrance fee before midnight at this moment (january 2009) is 28 r$ and after midnight 38 r$. most people line up and get in just before midnight.
if you get a hotel, make sure you check beforehand that it is girl-friendly. so you can bring someone, without cost, to your room. most hotels will however require the wg to bring her passport and leave it at the reception. when you rent an apartment, make sure it will have a 24 hour doorman (most of them have this) for security. better safe than sorry.
2)in front of help is a verandah where the working girls (wg's or garotas) start gathering from 22h00 onwards. it's fun to watch the scence and have a drink there. there will be a good many wg's that stay at the verandah and dont even go inisde for dancing. once reason being that some of them don't want to invest the entry fee.
3) taking a girl from the help verandah: typically the girls here will accept lower rates than inside. once it gets late (after 02h00) prices will do down. you may be able to find a wg here that agrees to as little as 100r$ for 1 hour. (you pay the taxi on top of that. may be like 20 r$ to copa/ipanema both ways). more common wg rate is r$ 150-200 for 2 hours. be sure to check the wg well, there are some nasty favela girls there that you may not want inside your apartment/hotel causing trouble.
4) taking a wg from inside help (the disco). prices are a little higher, simply because of the entrance fee and the 'investment' the wg's make in their dresses, clothes, jewelry. you will find favela wg's there, but also 'princesses' that wear expensive clothes and want higher fees. typical requested fee may be r$ 300 for 2 hours. but when it's late, this may come down to 200 r$, but usually not much lower. some of the princesses will start with 500 r$ or more. that's way too much. that would be more than a minimum monthly wage in brazil!. unless you don't care about money or ruining the pricing the rest of us, you should not accept it and negotiate it down towards 300 r$ or less, even if the wg princess looks like a supermodel!
5)scanning a wg: this is a very important part and should not be underestimated, including the agreements you make with her.
6) approaching: there will be wg's that approach you, others that only look at you, and some that 'apparently' ignore you. those may be local girls (none wg's) or princesses that demand very high prices because they think they are special. i prefer the ones that look, but dont try to grab me.(and think i'm an easy target) i observe that particularly 40+ year old gringo's give in to these more aggressive ones to easily. it can be hard resist that young fresh, dancing sexy lady that grabs your hand and takes over. i did it once and regretted it.
7) now step by step the approaching process:
tip1: never rush, take your time and speak with the girl, check the chemistry. of course speaking some (minimal) portuguese will be required. most wg's in rio do not speak english or very very little english. if the girl does not speak english and you do not speak portuguese, it will not make things better. perhaps you don't care and just want 60 minutes of 'fast fun'. but it will mean you miss out on most of, it not all, of the gfe. (girlfriend experience)
tip2: do not go with the wg to her own place. always bring her to a safe place that you know and can trust. (like your hotelroom or apartment) at night: always take a taxi. (dont go walking anywhere at night, and that includes the beach) do not take the taxis parked in front of help (they cost 2-3 times more). take only the onces that happen to pass by on the ave. atlantica and have a meter. (tem metro?, do you have a meter?). if no meter, don't get that taxi. fee to most places in copa or ipanema (starting from help) should be around 8-15 r$, depending on distance.
tip2: if the wg wants to rush it, slow her down and say that you are not in a hurry and want to talk or dance a bit. never let her take too much initiative. you are the customer and the customer is king. she should respect that. just as you should respect that she is a person, has feelings too and wants to be treated well.
tip3: make clear agreements about everything. a,the price. b: how long she will stay (best: at what time she will leave your apartment/hotel) the time starts when you enter the room. you could even write all of it on a piece of paper if the communication feels fuzzy. i've seen too many screwups with people that thought that tln (all nights) means many hours, whereas the girl thinks she can leave in 1 hour, because it is already 04h00 in the morning.
tip4: ask here what she does and does not do? faz tudo? (do you do everything?), or you may find out in your hotel that she refuses to do things you like. like 'i dont like to kiss, do bj etc)
tip5: make sure she knows what you like and want to do.
tip6: hygiene: always wear your rubbers. if you like oral, rinse your mouth afterwards with antiseptic mouthwash (like listerine). when she gives you a bbbj, wash your little john with soap and [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url] afterwards. (i'm not a medical doctor, but these tips are just to help protect you. if you want 100% safe sex in rio, stay at home!)
tip6: make sure she knows that you pay here at the end when she leaves and all is done. if not, you may find yourself in a situation where she rushes things and leaves right after you're 'done' (in say 30 minutes), even if you agreed to 2 hours. (because she's already got her money, right?)
tip7: hide expensive stuff, computers, digital cameras and your money, when you bring a help wg in your room. things may 'disappear' if you're not careful. put money in a locker or heavy suitcase.
tip8: when you negotiate, stay friendly with her, but dont be afraid to be very clear. when there is anything you don't like, say it right away. bring it in a diplomatic way, as in: "sorry, we dont fit well together, i hope you will find somebody else". nobody likes to be rejected, including wg's. if you say it this way, she may understand and give in to your wishes and be a fun night afterall. in some cased if the girls likes you, you could spend several nights at reduced rate. don't overpay.
tip9: brazilian women do not like 'weak' men. if you just came in from europe or the usa, as the typical gringo, cave in to her aggressive approach, pay her 500 r$ for 1 single hour and don't speak a single word of portuguese, she will (rightly so) think you are just a stupid gringo. and that's how she will treat you. expect fake moaning (after 10 minutes, pretending she has an orgasm when you just touch her) and expect her trying to 'finish' you with lightning speed. so she can rush back to help and make more money. don't overpay.
tip10: however if you do the scanning well, if you are clear about what you want and pay, negiotiate, speak some portuguese, make some jokes, and treat her with respect, you may find a real gem now and then. even at help. outside help the chances are better though. you may find yourself a steaming hot, lively, funny girlfriend, if only for 1 night or a few hours. you may find yourself wondering how it is possible that such women exist. even if most, if not all of it, is a game, there can be real pleasure and fun in this game. that means for you, and for her.
any questions? don't ask me.....check and read this forum!
enjoy rio and stay safe...
dutch44
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[QUOTE=Dutch44]Rio, beginners guide and tips for HELP - Copacabana - January 2009
Dutch44[/QUOTE]
Good post and very informative.
I got into Help last night at about 2 am. There was still plenty of good selections left, when I got there they were all over me like flies on shit, some real nice ones too. I only went in to take in the scene and listen to the music as I already had a full day. I had an escort from CIA-Plus in the afternoon 130 reais plus taxi for 2 hours then I went to a womans house I met on-line and did her for 3 hours so I had my fill.
But I met a nice blond from Santa Catarina in Help that just arrived that day, she came up to earn some money because her beauty salon has economic problems due to the rains they had in Santa Catarina. Price was right and she gave me a topper this afternoon when she left. She was the best of the day.
Now Im going to meet another girl I met on-line and if I can't get her into bed by midnight it will be off to Help again, Saturday night should be a good night.
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[QUOTE=Dutch44]Tip4: ask Faz tudo? (do you do everything?)[/QUOTE]
With all the respect due to your Help knowledge, cultural awareness and language skills, "faz tudo ?" is not only gibberish (no subject pronoun) but also not appropriate.
"Voce e completa ?" is the right way to ask a girl if she's willing to do anything (incl. but not only anal).
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Dutch sounds like a smart guy!
i agree with almost everyhthing that dutch wrote and if you are a newbie and follow his instructions you will do fine in help. there are terma guys, there are help guys and some guys like to go to places that only the locals go. i like the termas but i don't go there much because i don't like the fact that i have to pay the same prices for every girl. at help, i can get a top quality girl, all night for less money than an hour in a terma.
i would just add a few things. i beleive the quality of the girls outside of help is usually much lower than the quality inside. if you come to rio to meet girls and have a good time i say, go in help, have a drink and watch. if you just relax and watch you will see how the game is played and you will be able to see which girls to stay away from and which girls are the gems.
talk to guys there that appear to know what they are doing. don't be shy, i have been going to rio for a long time and i love to help guys out. most guys that go to rio are pretty cool and if you strike up a conversation with them, let them know you are new they will help you out.
dutch said it but i want to make clear. relax! you are in control, remember to stay in control of the conversation. i think that most guys get into to trouble because they allow the women to take control because they are aggressive. the most aggressive girls are usually the girls that will give you problems later.
i tell first timers who ask me, you pick the girls, don't let them pick you! good job dutch.
[quote=dutch44]rio, beginners guide and tips for help - copacabana - january 2009
well.....whatever people think about help, it's there and it does have some advantages too. it's a great disco and the atmosphere can be magic at times.
anyway, because this forum is about 'working girls', i thought i create a short list of information and tips for 'beginners' visiting rio for the first time and going to help. it's based on my own experiences and my point of view and some of you may disagree with it or have additional tips. be my guest. most of what i wrote can be found in bits an pieces on this forum or is just plain obvious for the 'experienced' mongers. but still i hope it may be useful to some.
1) help is easy to find at the avenida atlântica in copacabana and there are plenty hotels or apartments close to it. any taxi driver will know it. it opens at 23h00 and closes around 04h00 or 05h00. entrance fee before midnight at this moment (january 2009) is 28 r$ and after midnight 38 r$. most people line up and get in just before midnight.
if you get a hotel, make sure you check beforehand that it is girl-friendly. so you can bring someone, without cost, to your room. most hotels will however require the wg to bring her passport and leave it at the reception. when you rent an apartment, make sure it will have a 24 hour doorman (most of them have this) for security. better safe than sorry.
2)in front of help is a verandah where the working girls (wg's or garotas) start gathering from 22h00 onwards. it's fun to watch the scence and have a drink there. there will be a good many wg's that stay at the verandah and dont even go inisde for dancing. once reason being that some of them don't want to invest the entry fee.
3) taking a girl from the help verandah: typically the girls here will accept lower rates than inside. once it gets late (after 02h00) prices will do down. you may be able to find a wg here that agrees to as little as 100r$ for 1 hour. (you pay the taxi on top of that. may be like 20 r$ to copa/ipanema both ways). more common wg rate is r$ 150-200 for 2 hours. be sure to check the wg well, there are some nasty favela girls there that you may not want inside your apartment/hotel causing trouble.
4) taking a wg from inside help (the disco). prices are a little higher, simply because of the entrance fee and the 'investment' the wg's make in their dresses, clothes, jewelry. you will find favela wg's there, but also 'princesses' that wear expensive clothes and want higher fees. typical requested fee may be r$ 300 for 2 hours. but when it's late, this may come down to 200 r$, but usually not much lower. some of the princesses will start with 500 r$ or more. that's way too much. that would be more than a minimum monthly wage in brazil!. unless you don't care about money or ruining the pricing the rest of us, you should not accept it and negotiate it down towards 300 r$ or less, even if the wg princess looks like a supermodel!
5)scanning a wg: this is a very important part and should not be underestimated, including the agreements you make with her.
6) approaching: there will be wg's that approach you, others that only look at you, and some that 'apparently' ignore you. those may be local girls (none wg's) or princesses that demand very high prices because they think they are special. i prefer the ones that look, but dont try to grab me.(and think i'm an easy target) i observe that particularly 40+ year old gringo's give in to these more aggressive ones to easily. it can be hard resist that young fresh, dancing sexy lady that grabs your hand and takes over. i did it once and regretted it.
7) now step by step the approaching process:
tip1: never rush, take your time and speak with the girl, check the chemistry. of course speaking some (minimal) portuguese will be required. most wg's in rio do not speak english or very very little english. if the girl does not speak english and you do not speak portuguese, it will not make things better. perhaps you don't care and just want 60 minutes of 'fast fun'. but it will mean you miss out on most of, it not all, of the gfe. (girlfriend experience)
tip2: do not go with the wg to her own place. always bring her to a safe place that you know and can trust. (like your hotelroom or apartment) at night: always take a taxi. (dont go walking anywhere at night, and that includes the beach) do not take the taxis parked in front of help (they cost 2-3 times more). take only the onces that happen to pass by on the ave. atlantica and have a meter. (tem metro?, do you have a meter?). if no meter, don't get that taxi. fee to most places in copa or ipanema (starting from help) should be around 8-15 r$, depending on distance.
tip2: if the wg wants to rush it, slow her down and say that you are not in a hurry and want to talk or dance a bit. never let her take too much initiative. you are the customer and the customer is king. she should respect that. just as you should respect that she is a person, has feelings too and wants to be treated well.
tip3: make clear agreements about everything. a,the price. b: how long she will stay (best: at what time she will leave your apartment/hotel) the time starts when you enter the room. you could even write all of it on a piece of paper if the communication feels fuzzy. i've seen too many screwups with people that thought that tln (all nights) means many hours, whereas the girl thinks she can leave in 1 hour, because it is already 04h00 in the morning.
tip4: ask here what she does and does not do? faz tudo? (do you do everything?), or you may find out in your hotel that she refuses to do things you like. like 'i dont like to kiss, do bj etc)
tip5: make sure she knows what you like and want to do.
tip6: hygiene: always wear your rubbers. if you like oral, rinse your mouth afterwards with antiseptic mouthwash (like listerine). when she gives you a bbbj, wash your little john with soap and [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url] afterwards. (i'm not a medical doctor, but these tips are just to help protect you. if you want 100% safe sex in rio, stay at home!)
tip6: make sure she knows that you pay here at the end when she leaves and all is done. if not, you may find yourself in a situation where she rushes things and leaves right after you're 'done' (in say 30 minutes), even if you agreed to 2 hours. (because she's already got her money, right?)
tip7: hide expensive stuff, computers, digital cameras and your money, when you bring a help wg in your room. things may 'disappear' if you're not careful. put money in a locker or heavy suitcase.
tip8: when you negotiate, stay friendly with her, but dont be afraid to be very clear. when there is anything you don't like, say it right away. bring it in a diplomatic way, as in: "sorry, we dont fit well together, i hope you will find somebody else". nobody likes to be rejected, including wg's. if you say it this way, she may understand and give in to your wishes and be a fun night afterall. in some cased if the girls likes you, you could spend several nights at reduced rate. don't overpay.
tip9: brazilian women do not like 'weak' men. if you just came in from europe or the usa, as the typical gringo, cave in to her aggressive approach, pay her 500 r$ for 1 single hour and don't speak a single word of portuguese, she will (rightly so) think you are just a stupid gringo. and that's how she will treat you. expect fake moaning (after 10 minutes, pretending she has an orgasm when you just touch her) and expect her trying to 'finish' you with lightning speed. so she can rush back to help and make more money. don't overpay.
tip10: however if you do the scanning well, if you are clear about what you want and pay, negiotiate, speak some portuguese, make some jokes, and treat her with respect, you may find a real gem now and then. even at help. outside help the chances are better though. you may find yourself a steaming hot, lively, funny girlfriend, if only for 1 night or a few hours. you may find yourself wondering how it is possible that such women exist. even if most, if not all of it, is a game, there can be real pleasure and fun in this game. that means for you, and for her.
any questions? don't ask me.....check and read this forum!
enjoy rio and stay safe...
dutch44[/quote]
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[QUOTE=Dutch44]Rio, beginners guide and tips for HELP - Copacabana - January 2009
Well.....whatever people think about HELP, it's there and it does have some advantages too. It's a great disco and the atmosphere can be magic at times.
Anyway, because this forum is about 'working girls', I thought I create a short list of information and tips for 'beginners' visiting Rio for the first time and going to HELP. It's based on my own experiences and my point of view and some of you may disagree with it or have additional tips. Be my guest. Most of what I wrote can be found in bits an pieces on this forum or is just plain obvious for the 'experienced' mongers. But still I hope it may be useful to some.
Dutch44[/QUOTE]Well said. I recommend newbies to print this out to read on you first flight into Brazil to not make avoidable mistakes; or on the flight back just in case you got this report after you made your Help mistakes. If you made mistakes covered in this report, don't jump out the plane, just be better prepared next time.
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[QUOTE=Omegaman1993]I agree with almost everyhthing that Dutch wrote and if you are a newbie and follow his instructions you will do fine in Help.. I tell first timers who ask me, you pick the girls, don't let them pick you! Good job Dutch.[/QUOTE]I agree with you too. Termas girls may be wiling to come to your apartment. If you are into oral sex, termas girls have frequent medical benefits. Plus, to work at 4 x 4, Monte Carlo, Luomo, Solarium, and Cancun termas, a garota has to be nonfavela, meaning no excessive tattoos, stretch marks, or attitude. With a Help girl she may look good, but she may have a lot of birth stretch marks. Inside or out of Help you really are not guaranteed that gem looks gleaming out of her expensive dress or tight jeans. Only after you get to your apartment will you discover that.
I met a girl in Help on my first trip that looked good. We fucked all night. The next morning I saw an ugly scar on her neck as if someone tried to slash her throat. Outside of this chick, I've had no problems.
Omegaman is right about asking someone. When I was at Help last December, two white Australians had the chunky white twins, Julia and Julianna, at their table. As a Black American who didn't know these guys, mongeing has no color, one of them leaned over and told me that these bitches think their pussies are made of platinum for R$500 each all night. I then told him that I had one of them March 2008 for R$200 and she tried to cutout after my orgasm claiming she needs to find her sister. They pull that sister routine often on mongers. So we whispered information, and the next think the twins knew they were sitting by themselves. The Aussies left them for other girls. Then one of them asked to be fucked telling me R$200, and I said no R$150 because you don't do anal or BBBJ. Then the infamous line, "You don't like me. " I told her I would like her better at R$100 for everything. " Yes, talking to other mongers is great advice.
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On line
[QUOTE=Sangue Bon] then I went to a womans house I met on-line and did her for 3 hours so I had my fill.
Now Im going to meet another girl I met on-line and if I can't get her into bed by midnight it will be off to Help again, Saturday night should be a good night.[/QUOTE]
Your report misses out some vital info.Where did you meet these women on line, Brazil Cupid, Orkut?
Did they want money or were they after a relationship?
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[QUOTE=Abzsafado]Your report misses out some vital info.Where did you meet these women on line, Brazil Cupid, Orkut?
Did they want money or were they after a relationship?[/QUOTE]I have been using match.com for over 4 years now, thru the years I have had some success with this site. Actually the woman I did the other night I met for the first time 4 years ago but only had sex with her the first time the other night. This woman sells real estate in Barra and has a very big apt overlooking the beach. I gave her no money. Not only that she is a very conservative quiet woman who got off on the fact that I am a safado and screw all these women in Copa, she said it turnrd her on and she had sex with me for that and because I'm gostoso. She didn't expect to when I told her I was coming over .
I will also see this week another woman I met 4 years ago who I go to swing clubs with. She told me 4 years ago she is only looking for a husband not a fling but we chatted thru the years and became friends, she asked me to rewrite her profile in English and she started telling me about the guys she meets. Then I send her a new picture of me and she says even if we are friends if you really look like that I will have sex with you without being serious, she also turned on her cam and masterbated to my picture so I can see. Now I just take her to swing clubs. This woman is an art history professor, I give her no money.
Actually last night I met 2 women from Match, 1 at 9 pm in Copa, she is an Architect looking for a serious relationship. I told her that I'm a safado and she didn't blink an eye, asked me if she can get together with me today, I left her at 11 PM and went to meet another woman in Leblon, she is a financial analyst for Banco do Brasil, she asked me to go to dinner tonight. She is the better of the 2 so I may go with her today. I also had lunch with a woman yesterday in Ipanema, shes a lawyer, but she is a no go, waste of time but the table next to me had a real nice looking woman but I missed it,
I have a list of women now that I met online in the past couple of weeks on Match but I can't go meet them all, plus not all of them with have sex on the first date so you have to invest some time.
I ended up in Help last night, many girls asking for 500 or 400 and wouldn't take even 300 at 2:30 am, they told me to wait that at 4:30 they would if they had no customer. One girl I spoke to looked like Bridgett Bardot/Pamela Anderson, she was nice but i wouldn't pay the 400. I did end up with a real nice girl, I told her I only pay 200, she said don't say that too loud, keep it a secret, give me 200 plus taxi, she just left and it was well worth every real of it. This girl lives in Cabo Frio with her parents and only comes to Rio on the weekends to work, she also works in Cabo Frio in her parents business.
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Where to watch super bowl in Rio?
Hello,
A quick question. Where is a good place to watch the Super Bowl in Copacabana or Ipanema tonight? I'd like to see it (together with my chica) and not just silent TV screen but sound too.
Thanks! Felipe
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2 magic numbers 250 and dezoito (18)
I went out with the financial analyst from Banco do Brasil last night, had drinks in the Fasano with her, I wanted to check that place out for future place to hang for non pros, maybe later in the week when I'm alone.
This girl is very nice, I think I'm going to concentrate all my efforts on her, taking her to dinner tonight, I'm going to pursue this one hard, she is pretty, smart, classy, should be fun
After she went home because she has to work at about 11 PM I went to Help, entered about 12:30, place was empty so I did some scouting, had some conversations with a couple of stunners just for education purposes. I asked them what the going rate is? They said 400 reais and the Americans and Europeans are paying it. What a shame.
The place started to fill up by 1:30 2, I spoke to a couple of nice girls and some not so nice, one started dancing with me, it was going good then asks me can you pay me 400 reais, I said no, she walked away, Good.
Then I see a nice little package, dark hair really cute from Fortaleza, we talk, she seems like a good one, I ask how old she is, she is 18, very sexy number, I ask her how much, she says 250, another sexy number. But i hesitate thinking she would be immature. I take another walk around, many good looking girls but I won't pay the 400. I go back to this baby and say lets go.
Back in the apto, she was a little nervous I can see, told me to keep the key in the door, which I usually hide. Then like a kid was jumping up and down on the bed, it was fun. She turned out to be so sweet, body so new and perfect and for an old man like me who has been pretty active past couple of days it was so tight and wet and hot I gave up the first one rather quickly and she talked me through it, it was perfect. I have some pics but will post at a later date. She doesn't usually go to Help but her business phone broke because she is on Hotside name Ingridi so she came to help for some business, my lucky night.
One other thing, I read a post here that a guy said he saw a gdp in Help he knew from 2007 and he was surprised she was still going to Help. Last night I ran into a GDP I knew from 1997, so embarrasing because she comes up to me when I was talking to a young hot chick and this old timer comes and talks to me as if I've been doing her, back in 1997 she was one of the hot ones on the A list of Help but unfortunately not now, but I saw her later working on an old man for business, good for her.
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[QUOTE=Sangue Bon]They said 400 reais and the Americans and Europeans are paying it. What a shame.[/QUOTE]That's Bullshit! They're talking to some stupid mongers. There are too many R$150-200 garotas.
[QUOTE=Sangue Bon]Back in the apto, she was a little nervous I can see, told me to keep the key in the door, which I usually hide.[/QUOTE]You did what! Your left the key in the door!
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[QUOTE=Jamaicanceo]That's Bullshit! They're talking to some stupid mongers. There are too many R$150-200 garotas.
You did what! Your left the key in the door![/QUOTE]
When she wasn't looking I took the key and hid it for sure, don't worry. LOL
Sure their are garotas for 150 reais there are all different levels of girls there, plus it costs almost 40 reais to get in, so what do they get out of it?
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V and a Gym!!
Hey guys, could you please tell me which drugstore has the cheapest V? The other day I paid 175R for 4-100mg!!! Also, what is the gym that has the most amount of beautiful girls working out? Thanks.
Viper10
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i work out at balance fitness and there are a bunch of hot girls there
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[QUOTE=Bravo]i work out at balance fitness and there are a bunch of hot girls there[/QUOTE]What road is this on?
Thanks
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The best looking garotas are at bodytech on ns copacabana. Equipe has alot off gdp's. Golds gym is crap. 175r is ok for copa, from memory it has always been around that or more. Slightly cheaper in Centro.
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~while we´re on gyms, I´ve just this afternoon booked the Princesa Isabel one again. 93R a month after some good-natured heavy haggling. The guy I dealt with was a worthy opponent. When I suggested what I had paid before he expanded his chest, leaned back, and gave a roar of a laugh that demonstrated how fit you become at his gymnastica. Where had I been / come from?? he asked útter disbelief. I pointed out I´d enrolled in his gym three years on the trot and yes, he has got some new kit, but there was no way he should be charging Leblon prices. We continued in this vein as he tried to interest me in the reduced rate happy granny hour (11am to 6pm or something equally unappealing). I told him flat I wanted to come early in the morning, omitting the fact that it was my back-up option if I did not score at Nogueira, but pointing out that my apartment was across the road and one of the reasons I chose it was the access to a good cheap gym. He relented and gave me a reasonable price - the admin girl providing a suitably shocked horror expression on cue. Carlos emphasised I was to get the deal agreed and I duly provided a fingerprint scan in exchange for a receipt.
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I agree
[QUOTE=JohnnyBraz]The best looking garotas are at bodytech on ns copacabana. [/QUOTE]I had a membership at bodytech also. GREAT looking girls. Kind of hard starting up conversation though. Seems you have to shake the Gringo image in order to get a good one here.
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Pictures
My last trip I could barely get photographs of GDP's. I manage to get a few, but has anyone experience GDP's telling them that they don't want their picture taken because they fear someone will be posted on the internet? Quite a few GDP's I came across was telling me that.
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[QUOTE=David68]I had a membership at bodytech also. GREAT looking girls. Kind of hard starting up conversation though. Seems you have to shake the Gringo image in order to get a good one here.[/QUOTE]Yes, very difficult to get girls from bodytech, but the best looking women in zone zul train there. I don't waste my time trying to get normal girls in Rio. Just there to monger, but I like bodytech as a gym.
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Rats
[QUOTE=Madd Love]My last trip I could barely get photographs of GDP's. I manage to get a few, but has anyone experience GDP's telling them that they don't want their picture taken because they fear someone will be posted on the internet? Quite a few GDP's I came across was telling me that.[/QUOTE]
You know from another forum the problem. There are rats. They show the girls their pictures on sites like this one. I was in a termas not too long ago and a girl came up to me telling me she heard that her picture was on the internet. She wanted me to see if I could find it and tell her the site. Somehow I kept forgetting, but she was persistent.
The rats even give out your handles here so don't think what you write is a secret.
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Don't even get me fucking started......
[QUOTE=Exec Talent]You know from another forum the problem. There are rats. They show the girls their pictures on sites like this one. I was in a termas not too long ago and a girl came up to me telling me she heard that her picture was on the internet. She wanted me to see if I could find it and tell her the site. Somehow I kept forgetting, but she was persistent.
The rats even give out your handles here so don't think what you write is a secret.[/QUOTE]There are some motherless pricks out there who think they are somehow improving their chances with the garotas by informing them that there are stories and photos of them out there on the Internet. While their intentions my be honorable they are misguided and fucking things up for the rest of us.
Last time I posted a Termas girl photo on the web that showed her face (and wrote report describing a stellar performance) someone out there (and you know who you are) blabbed his mouth off like a 15 year old school girl to the Termas girl in question. Not only did he tell her where to look, the prick PRINTED the report and photo and SHOWED them to her. Can you fucking believe it? The next time I arrived for a session I had some serious explaining to do. Not to mention destroying the chances of a three-way with her sister. Obviously, if she knew I was going to post her photo on the web she never would have agreed to them. Having said that, these girls have to expect that their photos are going to show up sooner of later but that's not the point. Being blindsided like that is no fun for anyone and should not be something we have to worry about.
OK - enough about my rant. You know who you are you cocksucker and so do I, don't do it again or I will rat YOU out to the entire ISG Forum. You sad fuck!
Sorry for hijacking your post ET - but that struck a nerve.
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I am with you Jake 993, We call them "white Knights" in Texas there a review site that reviews the performance of your encounter, there were johns that would copy your review and give it to a girl that you reviewed.So if you did a so so review of her, the girl had an attitude with you when you saw her. There were alot of "white Knights" here that thought that was a way to get on their good side, but the girls knew thay were just slime.
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[QUOTE=Jake993].... Not only did he tell her where to look, the prick PRINTED the report and photo and SHOWED them to her. Can you fucking believe it?....[/QUOTE]
Jake993,
I believe cause I know you, otherwise hard to believe it exists such sharks.
I feel sorry for what you happened and I think it was not easy for you to face her without know what happened.
And yes, if we should worry about things like this, in a while here no more new photos and later no more reports too.
Now I understand why even if you have and had surely top quality girls, I never saw a photo posted by you.
And yes, thanks for share with us your experience !
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How can I get viagra or cialis in Rio? Do I need prescription?
I'm going next Friday and I've been searching the web with no results. Try google viagra brasil and you get millions of online pharmacies. Hopeless
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[quote=exec talent]you know from another forum the problem. there are rats. they show the girls their pictures on sites like this one. i was in a termas not too long ago and a girl came up to me telling me she heard that her picture was on the internet. she wanted me to see if i could find it and tell her the site. somehow i kept forgetting, but she was persistent.
the rats even give out your handles here so don't think what you write is a secret.[/quote]
[quote=madd love]my last trip i could barely get photographs of gdp's. i manage to get a few, but has anyone experience gdp's telling them that they don't want their picture taken because they fear someone will be posted on the internet? quite a few gdp's i came across was telling me that.[/quote]
i haven't been blind-sided by a gdp yet, but it could easily happen because of these cyber casanovas who feel that getting in the gdps good graces may yield a free blowjob.
many terma girls didn't let me take face pics, but they were happy to oblige me on action shots, which are anonymous.
my safeguards are that i don’t visit may be 2 (or 3) times per year. i don't post the pics right away, and usually don’t repeat with the same helpee shark twice.
in november, i repeated with a help girl which i had taken in july when was great. but she didn't remember me, meaning i must not have been that great:(
i showed her the pics i took of her in july. she was amused and said she didn't remember that blouse:) (the pics were on laptop, not the forum).
i think the guys who live in gig have more to worry about than occasional visitors. these gdps fuck way too many guys and drinking/partying most nights that probably can’t remember the client past a few weeks.
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[QUOTE=Jake993]There are some motherless pricks out there who think they are somehow improving their chances with the garotas by informing them that there are stories and photos of them out there on the Internet. While their intentions my be honorable they are misguided and fucking things up for the rest of us.
Last time I posted a Termas girl photo on the web that showed her face (and wrote report describing a stellar performance) someone out there (and you know who you are) blabbed his mouth off like a 15 year old school girl to the Termas girl in question. Not only did he tell her where to look, the prick PRINTED the report and photo and SHOWED them to her. Can you fucking believe it? The next time I arrived for a session I had some serious explaining to do. Not to mention destroying the chances of a three-way with her sister. Obviously, if she knew I was going to post her photo on the web she never would have agreed to them. Having said that, these girls have to expect that their photos are going to show up sooner of later but that's not the point. Being blindsided like that is no fun for anyone and should not be something we have to worry about.
OK - enough about my rant. You know who you are you cocksucker and so do I, don't do it again or I will rat YOU out to the entire ISG Forum. You sad fuck!
Sorry for hijacking your post ET - but that struck a nerve.[/QUOTE]Jake,
Why wait until he fucks someone else? Getting Pussy whipped is an addiction that should be confronted head on.
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[QUOTE=Louie Cifre]How can I get viagra or cialis in Rio? Do I need prescription?
I'm going next Friday and I've been searching the web with no results. Try google viagra brasil and you get millions of online pharmacies. Hopeless[/QUOTE]Actually if you keep your eyes on the groung while walking on a sidewalk in Rio, you will more than likely find a cialis box with a few left-overs.
But seriously, no a prescription isn't needed for sex pills. There are drugstores on every corner.
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pics
I overheard a little argument at L Uomo yesterday about this gringo who had posted action shots of a girl (Ruby) allegedly despite assurances given that it would not be done. Another monger had told the girl in question the following day. A "warm" reception is awaiting our colleague if he returns there..
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Places I don´t recommend
[b]places i don´t recommend (but i love;) )[/b]
actually, that´s an overstatement. i don´t love balcony. but i wanted to point out that just cos these other places happen to suit my tastes i do not suggest you go there, especially if you are new to brasil or if you like creature comforts. in fact, there are strong reasons not to go there and very specific reasons why i do, so read on if you are not sure. all statements are just my opinion based on recent experience.
[b]nogueira – balcony – ba85 – vm[/b]
although staying in centro makes more sense if you like cheap end and/or want to do the official carnaval parade, nogueira is one of the reasons i chose to stay in copa just now (combined with the ridiculously generous rate my landlady´s giving me).
there are no equivalent late night haunts i know of. even if, by all standards of good taste, [b]nogueira[/b] sucks. and if you take a dawn-break girl from nogueira back to your place in centro, the copa magic has evaporated by the time you get into the city.
´nog´ is on viv.min.d.castro between prado junior and princesa isabel. opposite barbarellas. decorated with girls that sit on car bonnets waiting for people to rob. it gets going around 5am when two guitarists play a medley of western and brasilian hits. guest singers join them (the female ones are generally available, but i have had my share of problems with one). it´s laid back, a mix of top talent (mostly from nearby boites as they close), unsuccessful hookers from help and balcony, down-and-outs, druggies, trannies, drunks and working girls who have finished working for the night and are just enjoying eating and drinking with their mates. it´s a good place for newbies to get eaten alive, hence the warning notice. also, to get a gem, you have to have patience and cunning. i like the challenge. some of the best gfe´s i´ve had have been from nog. but you wade through a lot of sh*t first.
i couldn´t wait on tuesday night /wednesday morning and looked in at 3am. dead. i pretend i haven´t, and go to [b]balcony[/b] to get some air and wait for nog to open. i detest balcony. it´s on the seafront, a few blocks from isabel and is unashamedly loaded with beer-bellied ugly f*cks who don´t want to spend the entrance on help. and the gringos are not much better lol ;) you even pay for your drink in advance *(like help). i´m not there to pick up. i like catching the girls´ eye as they work their prey – most don´t even pretend not to be two-faced. there´s one pretty girl who is acting quite professionally with her trick, but she would want (and get) more than i am willing to pay in money or time just now. am nursing my coke juggling other options when i recognise [b]simone[/b].
simone is a lovely girl i´ve spent a number of nights with in the sack, or just bar-hopping and chilling with. she´s watched my back on a number of occasions (you need as many friends as you can get in the nog / prado area), dodged bullets during the nearby favela war a couple of years back and, best of all, she is never jealous when i fuck another woman. i´m pleased to see her and we exchange hugs. she´s moved from barata ribeiro to a new place on paula freitas – more helpee country. she´s fixed her hair, fixed her once self-deprecating attitude, even fixed her tendency to winge – but she´s also fixed her prices. previously i don´t think i´ve ever paid her more than 100r. now if i want to screw her, she´s having none of it. “i´m your friend, not your girlfriend!” she retorts. what she means is, if you see a girl regularly from that type of circle and she may well give you cut rates if she likes you, plus maybe stop going to help so much. the downside is she´ll be possessive – the ´discretion´ of her not touting for biz extends to you not doing any with anyone else. bad deal in my books.
but we are enjoying each other´s company so i get her back to my apartment. sweet talk her on the veranda, which overlooks the morro over leme and also the sea. her kisses taste a bit like a cocker-spaniel – warm and very wet rather than a chemical explosion. she has forgotten the 200r price tag. we´ve got past 150r and i think i am about to close the deal at 100r when i make some tasteless joke about her frickin cat and blow the atmosphere. we´re back to 150r or nothing. while that´s maybe not a fortune, it sticks in my throat more than 100r. i walk her back to balcony and she makes me walk her as far as copa palace to ´prove´ she´s not working that night.
[b]nogueira[/b] is just about kicking off. i do my usual – tip the most senior person about 5r on the first drink. i´ve been doing this for years and it keeps me right. wads of cash will get you pretend respect for one night, as well as an idiot sticker on your forehead. taking time to respect who should be paid and how much is a better deal. when customers are getting told to move out the way, or vacate tables when they´re not eating, i get treated like one of the family. not that i would push it. they would have me wasted as soon as anyone else if i crossed them.
average bucket-load of women. i avoid the commitment of sitting down for a while until i have to give in. she looks like juliette lewis (who i have the hots for). she even has the same body language. she´s sexy as hell, one aureole half-peeking from the lovely dress that barely contains her bursting bosom. only downside is she´s pissed. i don´t mind a pissed woman – they can be totally abandoned and wild – but it´s a fine line before they become a liability or asleep or dead or all three. but we´re stroking each other´s legs and it´s nice for now so i spring her a skol.
the singer recognises me and screws her face up trying to remember. i got on brilliantly with her sister, long-term gfe, who now lives in paris with her boyfriend and is doing very well thank you. singer sister is another matter however. i tried to shag her one night and it went disastrously wrong. but we both realise nog is too small to have an ´atmosphere´ with anyone there. we both backed down (fortunately for me). we smile and promise to catch up, which we probably won´t.
i´ve now had time to assess the women there. the best option (if juliette lewis flakes out on me) is a tall, sober girl called [b]thais[/b]. a good sign is that she gets on well with everyone (druggies, for instance, tend to get cold-shouldered by clean girls). she makes herself at home and helps out behind the bar. i wait until the prick she´s with has decided it´s bedtime – on his own. i dodge a down-and-out of indeterminate sex that keeps forcibly offering to share his/her water bottle. then i feel guilty not using my brain to think of a more human response. thais and i are the last ones in the bar. the staff are accosting juliette lewis who has got in a cab without the means to pay her bill and is futilely suggesting to them i should pay. i walk out with thais.
she´s doing the thoroughly-decent-girl pitch and i´m too weary to mention prices. it will be 200 – the magic number – but more than i will pay. we have drinks on the veranda – fortunately simone hasn´t left any annoying traces, she´s lovely like that. thais offers me a (straight) massage. i say ok. her kisses taste like honey, her body, glimpsed as she gets in the shower, is highly edible. but she´s still going through the “i don´t do this sort of thing” motions. either she´ll end up good gfe or she´ll change her tune at crunch-time. no knowing.
she says the massage will be 50r. i agree. she only lets me gets fleeting tastes of her lips and breasts (during the massage), but it´s all done in quite a nice flirtatious way. she´s been saying no sex all along. i wait for her exception. it comes in at 200r for a ´present´. i flat refuse. arms and legs and m0assage positions later, and she´s sitting on my face, arching her back as i swallow her clit and she shakes all over. just part of the massage of course, but bloody nice!
once she´s come (or come close to coming), the nice girl image returns. she will only do sex (like what we´ve just done doesn´t count) for 200r. i argue for 150r. she asks for 150r plus the 50r for the massage. i refuse. eventually she gives in at 150r tudo but i´ve had enough and call it a day. it´s about 9am. she gives me some help with my samba. i explain that i´ve forked out 600r for a beija-flor [i]fantasia[/i] and am too poor to have a lady. she seems quite happy with the 50r for the massage. off she goes. that´s my edeficio-cred gone again and i haven´t even had a shag. my landlady says she´d “rather not know about men that bring a different woman back every night.” i suppose ´two a night´ doesn´t sound much better if i say i didn´t actually shag them??
i nip to the gym then shower to go into town for carnaval stuff and also to see [b]renata[/b]. renata is a cheeky girl that i always have a laugh with. she works at [b]ba85[/b]. of the six floors, she´s mostly worked at the crap one – the 2nd floor. but the day before when i popped in for a lookee she was on the 3rd floor and i could barely contain my excitement. most of the floors at ba85 have reasonable cubicles and you can even chat the girls up for a date back at your apartment. not the 2nd floor. here, the rats nip your ankles before asking for a tip. the roaches dare you to take your socks off. the cracked vinyl beds will shave the skin off your knees and the management´s idea of helping the environment is one light bulb between a dozen cubicles. by and large it also has the prettiest girls. they might call it turnover temple.
so seeing renata in a fuckable cubicle will be a real treat. not to mention the fixed prices. after the last few hours of early a.m., i am all haggled out. renata is not gfe. i get a kick out of doing indescribably lovely things with her indescribably lovely body and she gets a kick out extracting money from me. once, after doing her several times in a row at 10r for 10 minutes, i gave her a 50r note in front of everyone. i don´t do this sort of thing – you shouldn´t – but i knew the effect i would get and it was worth it. she jumped up and down like a kid when all her birthdays have come at once, her expression i´ll probably remember for ever. it was julie andrews resounding the sound of music through the hills and valleys and a narrow staircase. another time, renata pissed in the waste bucket before we shagged just to save time. or had an explosive orgasm and then told me time was up, just to watch me leave with a hard-on. her humour is wicked and i like her.
so i spring up the stairs. but the spring leaves my step completely when i see her on the second floor. what happened? i am forlorn. turns out she was just visiting. while the other floors are ´nice´, floor two is a boot camp. guys lured in by pretty chicks and hustled out again by horrid conditions. i´ve flat refused to see renata in here even though i like her a lot. i try to get her phone number but she is terrified the boss will see her. ok, i say, 10 mins in the room (10r) just to get phone numbers, no sex. ok, but 15 is minimum. into the certified rathole and get her number. but i´m horny as hell seeing her again. might as well use the time as i´m here. i´d rather walk on broken beer bottles mixed with gravel and septicaemia rags than lie on the floor two bed. so we will have to do it standing up. a quick lick and i can see her clit is already very swollen – either she´s pleased to see me or she´s been getting into her work this morning. i lift her up with one hand – she´s incredibly light – to do the deed that thais denied me. fabulous. except the cubicle is too narrow for even any back-and-forth hip movement. so seriously, don´t go there unless it´s to get this lovely girl´s phone number. but i´m having a laugh. forgot to arrive with the right money (15r) so she´s had little trouble getting the 5r change as a tip. now i want to come on her face. she has a gorgeous face. she´s less keen. an extra 10r. no! twenty then? ok.
now when a girl who ´does´ facials does a facial, she goes into pornstar mode, straining with outstretched tongue to catch a few drops of dew. renata doesn´t. predictably, she screws her face up. i cradle it with one hand. “there!” she points at a spot on her cheek. that will be right! (not!) she´s getting a full spray i´m afraid, though i try to keep it out of her hair. nice. now i will need some vm to exercise the batteries.
first of all, nip to botafogo for a movie – why can´t countries in the west, charging twice the price, make beautiful cinemas like espaco? woody allen is appreciated here. usa, you´re not good enough for him.
home. shower. flag a 455 bus (meier) from copa to vm. strikes me how flagging a bus here needs the same attitude as telling a brasilian woman what to do. the bus/woman doesn´t have to do what they´re told but they don´t respect anything that doesn´t look authoritative.
the bus journey has the added entertainment of a flea-ridden wheelchair guy who gets three people to haul him up the steps. later, on pres. vargas, i almost fall asleep enjoying the warm summer air through the window. feel the bus ascend as it hits the flyover and mr wheelchair´s fleas jump at me. i jump up so as not to miss my stop. get to[b] vm[/b] as the first drops of rain fall.
[b]why i like the rain[/b]
i have forgotten to bring anything to keep the wet off. bugger! first few casas have some awesome looking girls. young, attractive, fresh-looking. makes balcony look like last chance saloon. but they can pick and choose. i wander on, check out the u-street. plenty of uber-uglies who have been hit by a dumptruck, dragged through a scrapyard by their feet first, then marinated in a mixture of vomit, gangrene and last week´s trash. the rain is enough to convey the odour of dog poo uniformly around vm without washing it away. very atmospheric.
a couple of bleary-eyed, beer-sozzled gringos with vacant expressions try to bond with me. sorry guys, you´re not my type. i manage to lose them quickly. the bandeira side of vm looks better tonight, even though moving from casa to casa means dodging the raindrops. i settle for a tall girl called [b]juliani[/b] (casa 39). quite tidy, clean and a quiet, self-contained way about her. in the room, i start to worry about her attitude. won´t let me kiss her breasts or between her legs. she has a slightly wooden expression all of a sudden and we need to do something about that. i start pounding her to the rhythm of the loud hiphop music, shaking her body in time till i get a smile. she starts getting into it and thrusting back and she´s nice and slim so can grind her pubic bone against me as we fuck. she´s also quite strong. it´s one of the more athletic shags i´ve had lately – nice when a woman can hold her own – and her own weight – in unusual positions and still generate plenty of thrust. we soon are both bathed in a vast amount of sweat. part of it is the heat of course. part of it just feels bloody good. she ekes the time out but eventually asks if i want to pay for more. i decline, say i´ll see her another night.
a bit later i´m wondering where to hang until the rain, which is now quite heavy, decides to stop. the u-street has the most bars but is depressingly awful, and the rain still comes in at the joins. i opt for the end bar, the first of the ´steps up´ bars after the initial passageway casa (approaching from the west). this is where the nicest chicks are tonight. i might as well be in the right place.
(i´m giving casa numbers for aficionados, but vm girls move and change quite often – don´t rely on the details even from one night to the next. this is no.44, i think, or “kasinha 44” as the mama calls it.)some young guys and old soaks. now to get a young girl against the competition, the attitude has to be right. the advice from a samba teacher is probably good and applies equally: “smile: the key rule is, don´t make it sexy. you will look arch, or coy or, if you are working really hard, terribly american. your smile should be the full-tilt cheer of someone watching their favourite team hit a home run. or it should imitate the curve of a hindu deity´s.” i just wanted to look nice and approachable. (you can of course just go straight up and ask, but that tends to result in a wooden performance.)
eventually [b] xxxx[/b] casts me a glance as she saunters past to the jukebox. my open smile disguises that i´m still on heat and gives me time to ask her name. she enjoys the distraction. it occurs to me that the rain has worked to my advantage – there are less people popping in and out of the bar. so the girls might think, “why not use the guys that are there?” she is easily a 9. up in the room, her body is perfect. large, soft, perfectly formed bosoms full of youthful spring. large aureoles. silky skin that has that barely-touched-by-human-hand feel (much less a thousand vm gorillas). and an attitude to match. everything i do manages to elicit a natural curiosity and eagerness, combined with a full-blown sexuality that says she enjoys her own body. lovely, loving, awesome, dirty, pristinely gorgeous shag.
ok. had enough. why stay in the rain? haggle a taxi. not like me but i don´t fancy even the short walk past the new roadworks to the bus stop. get him down from 30 to 25r, which is close enough to the meter price and good value in this weather. his meter looks held together with sellotape anyway and probably hasn´t been used since fred and ginger made flying down to rio. home. cook something nice. bed.
now if the all-night cybercafé on prado/ns copa hadn´t shut/moved you might have had this sooner. but most cafes have crappy keyboards that are glued together with guarana or whatever or are only open at unsocial (ie daytime) hours. if anyone knows an east-copa 24hr job, please let me know. i´ve walked all the way to the one on rudolpho dantas to type this, which has nice kit but is only open 10am-3am. and too many australians skyping each other.
happy carnaval.
christopherd.
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Nogueira
Nogueira is currently closed. (I was in Rio for 2 weeks and left on 02/02/09.) Speculation is that it may have been closed by the city for unknown reasons. I saw about 3 guys working inside it late one night, so it may reopen.
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[QUOTE=Louie Cifre]How can I get viagra or cialis in Rio? Do I need prescription?
I'm going next Friday and I've been searching the web with no results. Try google viagra brasil and you get millions of online pharmacies. Hopeless[/QUOTE]
No prescription needed. Any Farmácia.
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does anyone know a good facial physical therapist in copa. i got diagnosed with choque termicou yesterday and i need to start treatment. thx in advance
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Thank you for putting in the time.
[quote=christopherd][b]places i don´t recommend (but i love;) )[/b]
actually, that´s an overstatement. i don´t love balcony. but i wanted to point out that just cos these other places happen to suit my tastes i do not suggest you go there, especially if you are new to brasil or if you like creature comforts. in fact, there are strong reasons not to go there and very specific reasons why i do, so read on if you are not sure. all statements are just my opinion based on recent experience.
[b]nogueira – balcony – ba85 – vm[/b]
although staying in centro makes more sense if you like cheap end and/or want to do the official carnaval parade, nogueira is one of the reasons i chose to stay in copa just now (combined with the ridiculously generous rate my landlady´s giving me).
there are no equivalent late night haunts i know of. even if, by all standards of good taste, [b]nogueira[/b] sucks. and if you take a dawn-break girl from nogueira back to your place in centro, the copa magic has evaporated by the time you get into the city.
´nog´ is on viv.min.d.castro between prado junior and princesa isabel. opposite barbarellas. decorated with girls that sit on car bonnets waiting for people to rob. it gets going around 5am when two guitarists play a medley of western and brasilian hits. guest singers join them (the female ones are generally available, but i have had my share of problems with one). it´s laid back, a mix of top talent (mostly from nearby boites as they close), unsuccessful hookers from help and balcony, down-and-outs, druggies, trannies, drunks and working girls who have finished working for the night and are just enjoying eating and drinking with their mates. it´s a good place for newbies to get eaten alive, hence the warning notice. also, to get a gem, you have to have patience and cunning. i like the challenge. some of the best gfe´s i´ve had have been from nog. but you wade through a lot of sh*t first.
i couldn´t wait on tuesday night /wednesday morning and looked in at 3am. dead. i pretend i haven´t, and go to [b]balcony[/b] to get some air and wait for nog to open. i detest balcony. it´s on the seafront, a few blocks from isabel and is unashamedly loaded with beer-bellied ugly f*cks who don´t want to spend the entrance on help. and the gringos are not much better lol ;) you even pay for your drink in advance *(like help). i´m not there to pick up. i like catching the girls´ eye as they work their prey – most don´t even pretend not to be two-faced. there´s one pretty girl who is acting quite professionally with her trick, but she would want (and get) more than i am willing to pay in money or time just now. am nursing my coke juggling other options when i recognise [b]simone[/b].
simone is a lovely girl i´ve spent a number of nights with in the sack, or just bar-hopping and chilling with. she´s watched my back on a number of occasions (you need as many friends as you can get in the nog / prado area), dodged bullets during the nearby favela war a couple of years back and, best of all, she is never jealous when i fuck another woman. i´m pleased to see her and we exchange hugs. she´s moved from barata ribeiro to a new place on paula freitas – more helpee country. she´s fixed her hair, fixed her once self-deprecating attitude, even fixed her tendency to winge – but she´s also fixed her prices. previously i don´t think i´ve ever paid her more than 100r. now if i want to screw her, she´s having none of it. “i´m your friend, not your girlfriend!” she retorts. what she means is, if you see a girl regularly from that type of circle and she may well give you cut rates if she likes you, plus maybe stop going to help so much. the downside is she´ll be possessive – the ´discretion´ of her not touting for biz extends to you not doing any with anyone else. bad deal in my books.
but we are enjoying each other´s company so i get her back to my apartment. sweet talk her on the veranda, which overlooks the morro over leme and also the sea. her kisses taste a bit like a cocker-spaniel – warm and very wet rather than a chemical explosion. she has forgotten the 200r price tag. we´ve got past 150r and i think i am about to close the deal at 100r when i make some tasteless joke about her frickin cat and blow the atmosphere. we´re back to 150r or nothing. while that´s maybe not a fortune, it sticks in my throat more than 100r. i walk her back to balcony and she makes me walk her as far as copa palace to ´prove´ she´s not working that night.
[b]nogueira[/b] is just about kicking off. i do my usual – tip the most senior person about 5r on the first drink. i´ve been doing this for years and it keeps me right. wads of cash will get you pretend respect for one night, as well as an idiot sticker on your forehead. taking time to respect who should be paid and how much is a better deal. when customers are getting told to move out the way, or vacate tables when they´re not eating, i get treated like one of the family. not that i would push it. they would have me wasted as soon as anyone else if i crossed them.
average bucket-load of women. i avoid the commitment of sitting down for a while until i have to give in. she looks like juliette lewis (who i have the hots for). she even has the same body language. she´s sexy as hell, one aureole half-peeking from the lovely dress that barely contains her bursting bosom. only downside is she´s pissed. i don´t mind a pissed woman – they can be totally abandoned and wild – but it´s a fine line before they become a liability or asleep or dead or all three. but we´re stroking each other´s legs and it´s nice for now so i spring her a skol.
the singer recognises me and screws her face up trying to remember. i got on brilliantly with her sister, long-term gfe, who now lives in paris with her boyfriend and is doing very well thank you. singer sister is another matter however. i tried to shag her one night and it went disastrously wrong. but we both realise nog is too small to have an ´atmosphere´ with anyone there. we both backed down (fortunately for me). we smile and promise to catch up, which we probably won´t.
i´ve now had time to assess the women there. the best option (if juliette lewis flakes out on me) is a tall, sober girl called [b]thais[/b]. a good sign is that she gets on well with everyone (druggies, for instance, tend to get cold-shouldered by clean girls). she makes herself at home and helps out behind the bar. i wait until the prick she´s with has decided it´s bedtime – on his own. i dodge a down-and-out of indeterminate sex that keeps forcibly offering to share his/her water bottle. then i feel guilty not using my brain to think of a more human response. thais and i are the last ones in the bar. the staff are accosting juliette lewis who has got in a cab without the means to pay her bill and is futilely suggesting to them i should pay. i walk out with thais.
she´s doing the thoroughly-decent-girl pitch and i´m too weary to mention prices. it will be 200 – the magic number – but more than i will pay. we have drinks on the veranda – fortunately simone hasn´t left any annoying traces, she´s lovely like that. thais offers me a (straight) massage. i say ok. her kisses taste like honey, her body, glimpsed as she gets in the shower, is highly edible. but she´s still going through the “i don´t do this sort of thing” motions. either she´ll end up good gfe or she´ll change her tune at crunch-time. no knowing.
she says the massage will be 50r. i agree. she only lets me gets fleeting tastes of her lips and breasts (during the massage), but it´s all done in quite a nice flirtatious way. she´s been saying no sex all along. i wait for her exception. it comes in at 200r for a ´present´. i flat refuse. arms and legs and m0assage positions later, and she´s sitting on my face, arching her back as i swallow her clit and she shakes all over. just part of the massage of course, but bloody nice!
once she´s come (or come close to coming), the nice girl image returns. she will only do sex (like what we´ve just done doesn´t count) for 200r. i argue for 150r. she asks for 150r plus the 50r for the massage. i refuse. eventually she gives in at 150r tudo but i´ve had enough and call it a day. it´s about 9am. she gives me some help with my samba. i explain that i´ve forked out 600r for a beija-flor [i]fantasia[/i] and am too poor to have a lady. she seems quite happy with the 50r for the massage. off she goes. that´s my edeficio-cred gone again and i haven´t even had a shag. my landlady says she´d “rather not know about men that bring a different woman back every night.” i suppose ´two a night´ doesn´t sound much better if i say i didn´t actually shag them??
i nip to the gym then shower to go into town for carnaval stuff and also to see [b]renata[/b]. renata is a cheeky girl that i always have a laugh with. she works at [b]ba85[/b]. of the six floors, she´s mostly worked at the crap one – the 2nd floor. but the day before when i popped in for a lookee she was on the 3rd floor and i could barely contain my excitement. most of the floors at ba85 have reasonable cubicles and you can even chat the girls up for a date back at your apartment. not the 2nd floor. here, the rats nip your ankles before asking for a tip. the roaches dare you to take your socks off. the cracked vinyl beds will shave the skin off your knees and the management´s idea of helping the environment is one light bulb between a dozen cubicles. by and large it also has the prettiest girls. they might call it turnover temple.
so seeing renata in a fuckable cubicle will be a real treat. not to mention the fixed prices. after the last few hours of early a.m., i am all haggled out. renata is not gfe. i get a kick out of doing indescribably lovely things with her indescribably lovely body and she gets a kick out extracting money from me. once, after doing her several times in a row at 10r for 10 minutes, i gave her a 50r note in front of everyone. i don´t do this sort of thing – you shouldn´t – but i knew the effect i would get and it was worth it. she jumped up and down like a kid when all her birthdays have come at once, her expression i´ll probably remember for ever. it was julie andrews resounding the sound of music through the hills and valleys and a narrow staircase. another time, renata pissed in the waste bucket before we shagged just to save time. or had an explosive orgasm and then told me time was up, just to watch me leave with a hard-on. her humour is wicked and i like her.
so i spring up the stairs. but the spring leaves my step completely when i see her on the second floor. what happened? i am forlorn. turns out she was just visiting. while the other floors are ´nice´, floor two is a boot camp. guys lured in by pretty chicks and hustled out again by horrid conditions. i´ve flat refused to see renata in here even though i like her a lot. i try to get her phone number but she is terrified the boss will see her. ok, i say, 10 mins in the room (10r) just to get phone numbers, no sex. ok, but 15 is minimum. into the certified rathole and get her number. but i´m horny as hell seeing her again. might as well use the time as i´m here. i´d rather walk on broken beer bottles mixed with gravel and septicaemia rags than lie on the floor two bed. so we will have to do it standing up. a quick lick and i can see her clit is already very swollen – either she´s pleased to see me or she´s been getting into her work this morning. i lift her up with one hand – she´s incredibly light – to do the deed that thais denied me. fabulous. except the cubicle is too narrow for even any back-and-forth hip movement. so seriously, don´t go there unless it´s to get this lovely girl´s phone number. but i´m having a laugh. forgot to arrive with the right money (15r) so she´s had little trouble getting the 5r change as a tip. now i want to come on her face. she has a gorgeous face. she´s less keen. an extra 10r. no! twenty then? ok.
now when a girl who ´does´ facials does a facial, she goes into pornstar mode, straining with outstretched tongue to catch a few drops of dew. renata doesn´t. predictably, she screws her face up. i cradle it with one hand. “there!” she points at a spot on her cheek. that will be right! (not!) she´s getting a full spray i´m afraid, though i try to keep it out of her hair. nice. now i will need some vm to exercise the batteries.
first of all, nip to botafogo for a movie – why can´t countries in the west, charging twice the price, make beautiful cinemas like espaco? woody allen is appreciated here. usa, you´re not good enough for him.
home. shower. flag a 455 bus (meier) from copa to vm. strikes me how flagging a bus here needs the same attitude as telling a brasilian woman what to do. the bus/woman doesn´t have to do what they´re told but they don´t respect anything that doesn´t look authoritative.
the bus journey has the added entertainment of a flea-ridden wheelchair guy who gets three people to haul him up the steps. later, on pres. vargas, i almost fall asleep enjoying the warm summer air through the window. feel the bus ascend as it hits the flyover and mr wheelchair´s fleas jump at me. i jump up so as not to miss my stop. get to[b] vm[/b] as the first drops of rain fall.
[b]why i like the rain[/b]
i have forgotten to bring anything to keep the wet off. bugger! first few casas have some awesome looking girls. young, attractive, fresh-looking. makes balcony look like last chance saloon. but they can pick and choose. i wander on, check out the u-street. plenty of uber-uglies who have been hit by a dumptruck, dragged through a scrapyard by their feet first, then marinated in a mixture of vomit, gangrene and last week´s trash. the rain is enough to convey the odour of dog poo uniformly around vm without washing it away. very atmospheric.
a couple of bleary-eyed, beer-sozzled gringos with vacant expressions try to bond with me. sorry guys, you´re not my type. i manage to lose them quickly. the bandeira side of vm looks better tonight, even though moving from casa to casa means dodging the raindrops. i settle for a tall girl called [b]juliani[/b] (casa 39). quite tidy, clean and a quiet, self-contained way about her. in the room, i start to worry about her attitude. won´t let me kiss her breasts or between her legs. she has a slightly wooden expression all of a sudden and we need to do something about that. i start pounding her to the rhythm of the loud hiphop music, shaking her body in time till i get a smile. she starts getting into it and thrusting back and she´s nice and slim so can grind her pubic bone against me as we fuck. she´s also quite strong. it´s one of the more athletic shags i´ve had lately – nice when a woman can hold her own – and her own weight – in unusual positions and still generate plenty of thrust. we soon are both bathed in a vast amount of sweat. part of it is the heat of course. part of it just feels bloody good. she ekes the time out but eventually asks if i want to pay for more. i decline, say i´ll see her another night.
a bit later i´m wondering where to hang until the rain, which is now quite heavy, decides to stop. the u-street has the most bars but is depressingly awful, and the rain still comes in at the joins. i opt for the end bar, the first of the ´steps up´ bars after the initial passageway casa (approaching from the west). this is where the nicest chicks are tonight. i might as well be in the right place.
(i´m giving casa numbers for aficionados, but vm girls move and change quite often – don´t rely on the details even from one night to the next. this is no.44, i think, or “kasinha 44” as the mama calls it.)some young guys and old soaks. now to get a young girl against the competition, the attitude has to be right. the advice from a samba teacher is probably good and applies equally: “smile: the key rule is, don´t make it sexy. you will look arch, or coy or, if you are working really hard, terribly american. your smile should be the full-tilt cheer of someone watching their favourite team hit a home run. or it should imitate the curve of a hindu deity´s.” i just wanted to look nice and approachable. (you can of course just go straight up and ask, but that tends to result in a wooden performance.)
eventually [b] xxxx[/b] casts me a glance as she saunters past to the jukebox. my open smile disguises that i´m still on heat and gives me time to ask her name. she enjoys the distraction. it occurs to me that the rain has worked to my advantage – there are less people popping in and out of the bar. so the girls might think, “why not use the guys that are there?” she is easily a 9. up in the room, her body is perfect. large, soft, perfectly formed bosoms full of youthful spring. large aureoles. silky skin that has that barely-touched-by-human-hand feel (much less a thousand vm gorillas). and an attitude to match. everything i do manages to elicit a natural curiosity and eagerness, combined with a full-blown sexuality that says she enjoys her own body. lovely, loving, awesome, dirty, pristinely gorgeous shag.
ok. had enough. why stay in the rain? haggle a taxi. not like me but i don´t fancy even the short walk past the new roadworks to the bus stop. get him down from 30 to 25r, which is close enough to the meter price and good value in this weather. his meter looks held together with sellotape anyway and probably hasn´t been used since fred and ginger made flying down to rio. home. cook something nice. bed.
now if the all-night cybercafé on prado/ns copa hadn´t shut/moved you might have had this sooner. but most cafes have crappy keyboards that are glued together with guarana or whatever or are only open at unsocial (ie daytime) hours. if anyone knows an east-copa 24hr job, please let me know. i´ve walked all the way to the one on rudolpho dantas to type this, which has nice kit but is only open 10am-3am. and too many australians skyping each other.
happy carnaval.
christopherd.[/quote]
thanks again for putting in the time to write an excellent report about a day/night in rio according to your experiences. i felt as though i was there watching everything go down. keep up the good work.
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[QUOTE=Chingon]Nogueira is currently closed. (I was in Rio for 2 weeks and left on 02/02/09.) Speculation is that it may have been closed by the city for unknown reasons. I saw about 3 guys working inside it late one night, so it may reopen.[/QUOTE]
Errm, no it´s not. See my report. I was there last night.
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SWs
Apart from the gross-outs on Av.Atlantica and the few on the slip-road to Lapa, traditional street walkers seem a rarity. Partly cos there´s always better options perhaps?
Tonight I couldn´t be bothered to wait for the bus that goes to Praca Bandeira (VM) so got one that drops you round the corner by the railway station. This is quite handy if you like to go the back way, but I don´t think I´m comfortable enough to do that at night. So I walk round to Praca Bandeira, following the lower road till it rejoins the one from the flyover. And I am quite pleasantly surprised to see three hussies doing a roadside pitch. I don´t know if it is a regular occurence or whether they had just decided to give it a go. Not really doable, but interesting to look at. One with grotesquely enormous breasts and a body that looked as if it had been hacked up to compile them. She has one of those halters that only hookers wear, just to save any possibility of doubt. I think there would be a major oil-spill once she undid it. Her friend is anorexically thin and flat-chested, with a face drained of expression perhaps by many years of drugs that she coiuld no longer afford. The third was busy talking to a punter and I couldn´t see.
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Very nice report Christopherd! I thoroughly enjoyed reading it! Keep'em coming!:)
How's the weather down in Rio these days? Hoping and praying for lots of sun and a smeltering heat during the week of Carnval as I am freezing my ass off in here! it's -30C as I am typing this!!!! Can't f*cking wait till I am in Rio in 2 weeks time!!!
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Renata at BA 85
Chris and others,
I was with her back in January. She works on the second floor of BA85 and is usually standing outside in front of the door. If you have been there you have seen her. Personally, I think she has a homely little face, but to each his own.
I banged her in Jan. becuase the second floor is usually the only one open on a Saturday and that is usually my last full day in Rio.
Since it is hard to get off in those small cubicles I had to jack off. It was funny because she was watching me intently but vut her eyes away when I looked at her watching me. I think she is a bit kinky but tries to hide it. Her **** does get wet, especially if you rub it.
As an American I find the second floor very interesting. It is very dirty and the crowd a bit strange.
The bar guy is ok but began charging me R$4 for beer for some reason. They do not know I am American, but Renata knows I am not Brazilian.
I really used to like the blond who used to work on that floor. She is the bartender on the 3rd floor now. She can give a good BJ and throws that butt around in doggie style.
TJ
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Thanks Mangeira, Sprite and others - nice to know the report was appreciated. Sprite - weather is roasting around 26 degrees and above, but showers or thunderstorms are common too. So if you´re in town and see it getting dark you head home quickly lol.
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Renata
[QUOTE=TJ Fannatic]
I banged her in Jan. becuase the second floor is usually the only one open on a Saturday and that is usually my last full day in Rio.
Since it is hard to get off in those small cubicles I had to jack off. It was funny because she was watching me intently but vut her eyes away when I looked at her watching me. I think she is a bit kinky but tries to hide it. Her **** does get wet, especially if you rub it.
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ROFL! I agree. I do think she enjoys kinky but more from a wild nature than a desire to please. We make each other laugh and I´m usually pleased to see her. Think I have posted pics of her a year or two back. Anyone had her for LT? The BA girls are usually a bargain. Haven´t got a price from her yet (still trying to persuade her that it is ok to spend money on a text message ;)
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Ba 85
Another good one from ba 85. Shes been there a few years now.
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[quote=bizzie]i haven't been blind-sided by a gdp yet, but it could easily happen because of these cyber casanovas who feel that getting in the gdps good graces may yield a free blowjob.
many terma girls didn't let me take face pics, but they were happy to oblige me on action shots, which are anonymous.
my safeguards are that i don’t visit may be 2 (or 3) times per year. i don't post the pics right away, and usually don’t repeat with the same helpee shark twice.
in november, i repeated with a help girl which i had taken in july when was great. but she didn't remember me, meaning i must not have been that great:(
i showed her the pics i took of her in july. she was amused and said she didn't remember that blouse:) (the pics were on laptop, not the forum).
i think the guys who live in gig have more to worry about than occasional visitors. these gdps fuck way too many guys and drinking/partying most nights that probably can’t remember the client past a few weeks.[/quote]
yeah i believe some guys on here are rats, about pics. next time i ask a girl for pic and she declines, i will decline spending time with her.
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a meander to leandro
Where´s the best lowlife social?
I had to go back to Cidade de Samba today (Gamboa) and tried to find a nice route back (to N.Centro). Thru the tunel and left along Sen. Pompeau was quite scenic. Two women held my eye at one point. They are just sitting on the pavement off to the left - might have been Costa Ferreira. They proposition me with no visible terma in sight and I reckon they are maybe freelancing in the sun. I should have done one just to find out. But I had a vision of an ice cold drink in Leandro Martins 5 so just flirted a bit and moved on.
I´ve sidestepped it for a while as a regular was a wee bit possessive, but pleased I looked in again. This must be one of the most sociable lowlife places to visit with a friend - what do you think? It gets beter each visit, often a party atmosphere. Mary, from behind the bar, follows me to a seat and massages my shorts in a non-pushy way. She´s very warm and affectionate so I go for 20R´s worth (can´t remember if that´s 20 or 30 mins). Nice BBBJ as if she´s wanted to do it all her life. She slaps some white cream on her fanny which is slightly offputting but I´m horny from the sun. Once inside her she is giving it overtime with those inner muscles exercises. I just stay still for a few minutes as she massages me with her inner vagina.
Most places at 1R a min are so unsociable to go with someone. LM5´s only drawback is it is out of the way (and could be confused with LM3 which remains awful). There´s a sign saying Vanessa Rio´s. Maybe about the same level as Casarao, but always brightly lit, good sociable music, and nice tables and girls that make the thing swing. And there´s a great yakisoba place just across the street - good plate of Jap-style noodles and whatever for under 10R.
Head home eventually and a fabulous sandwich at Cervantes. To my amazement, they pull out a photo/postcard I sent them three years ago and pass it round the staff.
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photos
Bit off thread but . . .
There´s two schools of thought - I err on the side of minimising harm personally and generally don´t show a face unless I´m sure she´s ok with that (but I don´t like paying for the photo either). If someone on here rats to a girl, then that´s bad, cos it can get a guy in trouble, even if the photos were irresponsible or whatever. Í don´t think there´s much we can do except urge people to keep the photo thread private. Personally I´d also urge people not to post identifiable pics but I still enjoy the face pics that others post. Some women even like the advertising. Overall I just think let´s be sensitive to the girls and each other (f*ck me, this is sounding like Jerry Springer lol!)
And Bizzie´s photos are so good sometimes he ought to be charging ;)
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Current termas rating
Hey guys,
Anyone up for giving current termas ratings 1-10?
Things seem to be changing rapido on the termas front, it kinda looks Monte Carlo is hot at mo?
ive found my old and trusty friend solarium a little monotounous recently?
Opinions appriciated.
Rgds,
Mongerer
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Address
[QUOTE=Christopherd]Where´s the best lowlife social?
I had to go back to Cidade de Samba today (Gamboa) and tried to find a nice route back (to N.Centro). Thru the tunel and left along Sen. Pompeau was quite scenic. Two women held my eye at one point. They are just sitting on the pavement off to the left - might have been Costa Ferreira. They proposition me with no visible terma in sight and I reckon they are maybe freelancing in the sun. I should have done one just to find out. But I had a vision of an ice cold drink in Leandro Martins 5 so just flirted a bit and moved on.
I´ve sidestepped it for a while as a regular was a wee bit possessive, but pleased I looked in again. This must be one of the most sociable lowlife places to visit with a friend - what do you think? It gets beter each visit, often a party atmosphere. Mary, from behind the bar, follows me to a seat and massages my shorts in a non-pushy way. She´s very warm and affectionate so I go for 20R´s worth (can´t remember if that´s 20 or 30 mins). Nice BBBJ as if she´s wanted to do it all her life. She slaps some white cream on her fanny which is slightly offputting but I´m horny from the sun. Once inside her she is giving it overtime with those inner muscles exercises. I just stay still for a few minutes as she massages me with her inner vagina.
Most places at 1R a min are so unsociable to go with someone. LM5´s only drawback is it is out of the way (and could be confused with LM3 which remains awful). There´s a sign saying Vanessa Rio´s. Maybe about the same level as Casarao, but always brightly lit, good sociable music, and nice tables and girls that make the thing swing. And there´s a great yakisoba place just across the street - good plate of Jap-style noodles and whatever for under 10R.
Head home eventually and a fabulous sandwich at Cervantes. To my amazement, they pull out a photo/postcard I sent them three years ago and pass it round the staff.[/QUOTE]Leandro Martins 5 - is this the address?
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Leandro martins 5
Good to know someone else on the board also enjoys Leandro Martins #5 (A.K.A Vanessa Rio's). I've never had a bad session there in the 3 years I've frequented the place and everyone I've taken there has liked it as well. Prime time is from 2-4 PM. since it starts to get crowded after 5 PM. The ambiance, management and the garotas are downright friendly. Still 1 real per minute and no entrace fee or mininum beer consumption required as iin some of the other places of this level.
[QUOTE=Christopherd]Where´s the best lowlife social?
I had to go back to Cidade de Samba today (Gamboa) and tried to find a nice route back (to N.Centro). Thru the tunel and left along Sen. Pompeau was quite scenic. Two women held my eye at one point. They are just sitting on the pavement off to the left - might have been Costa Ferreira. They proposition me with no visible terma in sight and I reckon they are maybe freelancing in the sun. I should have done one just to find out. But I had a vision of an ice cold drink in Leandro Martins 5 so just flirted a bit and moved on.
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Morning sex
Yesterday, while I was brooding over the refusal of my new girlfriend to have morning sex ("sex is for night time"), I was walking down the street in Copacabana and ran into a gorgeous 19 yo morena/mullata who was handing out some type of card.
I asked her what it was for, and she said that it was for a massage parlor. This interested me, and I asked her if she gave massages (these places often hire a stunner to hand out leaflets and have a few stray dogs at the massage parlor). She said yes, and before you knew it, I had my tongue down her throat in a little seedy room two blocks from the beach. Now the room is in a nice apartment building, next door to a dentist and a travel agency, so I wasn't afraid for my life when I entered. There were 6 girls, one of them pretty and the other 5 from OK to horrible.
My girl and I went to a back room where I informed her I only had 30 minutes to spare (my girlfriend was at the hotel waiting for me). Without missing a beat, her clothes were off and she was sucking the life out of me. BBJTC was followed by a mediocre massage, a blow job until I was ready again and then 15 minutes of sex and incredibly tight anal. She was clearly no expert in anal, but in the end, she let me pound her with abandon. The second shot was achieved, and I left a happy camper. She is 19 years old, has worked there two months, mom has just had her leg amputated for diabetes, she is saving to buy a prosthetic leg and she has a 2 yo kid. I gave her 100 reals (the rate for one hour) and left at 30 minutes.
I returned at 11 am today, Morning sex is always hard to come by, and has always been the one thing I insist with any girlfriend (my current girlfriend is unlikely to survive this weekend in Rio). I basically had a repeat performance with another mullata, this time with a killer body, although her face wasn't quite as young looking (she looked her age- i.e., 20). 60 reals were charged but given the obvious discomfort anal sex caused this girl (who also let me screw her with abandon), I gave her a 20 reals tip. No tip is expected, however.
The massage parlor opens at 9 am. There were three girls in the morning and more in the afternoon. Its called ESTILA NAMORADHINAS, Ave Nossa Senhora de Copacobana no 500 S1407. Its on the fourth floor, all the way at the end. It is unmarked, but its the last door,. You cannot miss it. The telephone number of the business is: 3181 3121. I recommend the place; anyone who tries can improve upon the price I paid.
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Forest
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[QUOTE=Christopherd]Errm, no it´s not. See my report. I was there last night.[/QUOTE]
I know it was closed in December but it was definitley open on the morning of the 5th when I left Ciccolenes (one day I am going to get the spelling right).
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Nomad Guide, Tourist Information
This is the time of year when there are a lot of things going on in Rio prior and during Carnaval. Thought it might help some of you in your planning to have a good tourist guide book. You can pick up a current copy (no 25) at most hotels or download an older version (no 21) from their site.
[url]http://www.nomad-guide.com/[/url]
[url]http://www.nomad-guide.com/nomad_guide_ed21.pdf[/url]
Another good site is:
[url]http://www.riodejaneiro-turismo.com.br/pt/[/url]
When you arrive at the airport you can get tourist information:
Terminal 1
International Arrival Hall.
BLUE AREA – Tel.: 3398-4077
Domestic Fligths Arrival Hall.
GREEN AREA – Tel.: 3398-3034
Daily, 6am-midnight
Terminal 2
International Arrival Hall.
Tel.: 3398-2245
Domestic Flights Arrival Hall.
Tel.: 3398-2246
Daily, 6am-midnight
In Copacabana:
TOURIST INFORMATION CENTER
Av. Princesa Isabel, 183 - Copacabana
Tel.: 2541-7522 / 2542-8004 / 2542-8080
Mon-Fri, 9am-6pm
Last night, actually 1:00 AM - 6:00 AM, was spent at São Cristóvão. I do not know how much luck you will have if you do not speak Portoguese and/or dance well, but if you do, you should find the girls very friendly.
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[quote=bizzie]i haven't been blind-sided by a gdp yet, but it could easily happen because of these cyber casanovas who feel that getting in the gdps good graces may yield a free blowjob.
many terma girls didn't let me take face pics, but they were happy to oblige me on action shots, which are anonymous.
my safeguards are that i don’t visit may be 2 (or 3) times per year. i don't post the pics right away, and usually don’t repeat with the same helpee shark twice.
in november, i repeated with a help girl which i had taken in july when was great. but she didn't remember me, meaning i must not have been that great:(
i showed her the pics i took of her in july. she was amused and said she didn't remember that blouse:) (the pics were on laptop, not the forum).
i think the guys who live in gig have more to worry about than occasional visitors. these gdps fuck way too many guys and drinking/partying most nights that probably can’t remember the client past a few weeks.[/quote]a lot of the girls are worried that a family member will find their photos, action or clothed.
a girl i had at my apartment from monte carlo said she prays that her family doesn't see her bubble butt porno scene. we can't forget that there are brazilian mongers, and heaven forbid if one sees your dick in his niece, daughter or wife's mouth with cum on her face. she will never live it down, and the next-time you're in rio a crazy brazilian might approach you about your photo.
[quote=bizzie]these gdps fuck way too many guys and drinking/partying most nights that probably can’t remember the client past a few weeks.[/quote] don't count on it. most females remember who they were with with what blouse or skirt outfit. so when a picture is posted, they know who took the shot.
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[QUOTE=Forest] She is 19 years old, has worked there two months, mom has just had her leg amputated for diabetes, she is saving to buy a prosthetic leg and she has a 2 yo kid. [/QUOTE]
Never heard that one before :)
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ESTILA NAMORADHINAS (and GDP in general)
[QUOTE=Smokers Rule]Never heard that one before :)[/QUOTE]
The hard luck stories are certainly common amongst working girls, and there is no reason not to believe them. They are just as common amongst non-working girls, of course, so one wonders why some sell themselves and some don't.
For my part, I am delighted that there are girls who sell themselves! Especially hot 19 yo girls. I do not think less of them because they fuck for money. I only wish more girls adopted this attitude.
Incidentally, while I was getting a rather inspired BBBJTC this morning at 10:00 am, I heard someone call and talk to the girl in charge (the rooms are rather porous). She quoted the rates as 50 reals for 30 minutes, I think she said 70 for an hour and I am certain she said 100 reals for 2 hours. What one would do in 2 hours with these girls in these seedy rooms is hard to understand, but it does appear I got taken on my first date. Of course, I knew I had since the outcall agencies all charge 100 for 1-2 hours. But I didn't care. Such is the power of the morning urge.
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I say rat them out
[QUOTE=Jake993]Last time I posted a Termas girl photo on the web that showed her face (and wrote report describing a stellar performance) someone out there (and you know who you are) blabbed his mouth off like a 15 year old school girl to the Termas girl in question. Not only did he tell her where to look, the prick PRINTED the report and photo and SHOWED them to her. Can you fucking believe it? The next time I arrived for a session I had some serious explaining to do. Not to mention destroying the chances of a three-way with her sister. Obviously, if she knew I was going to post her photo on the web she never would have agreed to them. Having said that, these girls have to expect that their photos are going to show up sooner of later but that's not the point. Being blindsided like that is no fun for anyone and should not be something we have to worry about.
OK - enough about my rant. You know who you are you cocksucker and so do I, don't do it again or I will rat YOU out to the entire ISG Forum. You sad fuck![/QUOTE]The sorry bastards who are violating the rule of "what goes on in this forum stays in this forum" deserve to be outted to the entire forum and blocked from using the forum.
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Excelsior Copacobana
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Termas Music
Guys,
Help please, can anyone tell me the artists and song names of the music (both Brazilian & Western) they play in main Termas? Luomo, etc. Over the years I have listen to sme good songs but I don't know the names!!
Thanks
Langer
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[quote=forest]not girl friendly.[/quote]a lot of the hotels in copacabana are not gdp friendly because some girls will start lurking around for their mongers, and may cause embarassment to the hotel in front of guests. notice that in many hotels the security don't wear uniforms but business attire.
and a few garotas have caused scenes. for example, a friend had to call security at the atlantica jw marriott, after he refused to pay the garota when he found out she ordered $100.00 worth of room service food while he was in the shower. she caused a scene for money she lost for not being at helpee. security responded and escorted her out. they didn't charge her for escort services.
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Ask The DJ
[QUOTE=Langer]Guys,
Help please, can anyone tell me the artists and song names of the music (both Brazilian & Western) they play in main Termas? Luomo, etc. Over the years I have listen to sme good songs but I don't know the names!!
Thanks
Langer[/QUOTE]
The best way to find the names of the songs is to ask the DJ. If you don't speak Portuguese, find a girl that speaks English and ask her to ask the DJ.
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[QUOTE=The Watcher]The best way to find the names of the songs is to ask the DJ. If you don't speak Portuguese, find a girl that speaks English and ask her to ask the DJ.[/QUOTE]
Yeah the same thing at Help, IMHO they are playing good music right now, I happen to like that techno/dance Trance type music, go ask the DJ and he has many CD's already made of the music playing, good stuff.
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[QUOTE=Madd Love]Yeah I believe some guys on here are rats, about pics. Next time I ask a girl for pic and she declines, I will decline spending time with her.[/QUOTE]
No doubt there is vermon amongst us.
That's the downside to a free forum. Any low life can get access.
I rarely ever negotiate for pics in advance, and never pay for those.
It's part of the general vibe I get about the whole sexual experience, and pics are a part of that just like BBBJ, CIM, Anal etc etc.
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[QUOTE=Christopherd]Bit off thread but . . .
There´s two schools of thought - I err on the side of minimising harm personally and generally don´t show a face unless I´m sure she´s ok with that (but I don´t like paying for the photo either). If someone on here rats to a girl, then that´s bad, cos it can get a guy in trouble, even if the photos were irresponsible or whatever. Í don´t think there´s much we can do except urge people to keep the photo thread private. Personally I´d also urge people not to post identifiable pics but I still enjoy the face pics that others post. Some women even like the advertising. Overall I just think let´s be sensitive to the girls and each other (f*ck me, this is sounding like Jerry Springer lol!)
And Bizzie´s photos are so good sometimes he ought to be charging ;)[/QUOTE]
Thanks ChrisD, but...
Who shoud be charged? The GDPs or the Mongers:)
I have posted all sorts of pics; face and no face, naked and clothed, G-rated and xxx-rated.
I post what I have.
But never posted a face when I was asked not to (in fact I delete the facial pics in front of those GDPs, which increases the trust and yields to more action and action pics:)).
And dont usually post the face in countries where the legal threat for GDPs is too high.
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[QUOTE=Bizzie]No doubt there is vermon amongst us.
That's the downside to a free forum. Any low life can get access.
I rarely ever negotiate for pics in advance, and never pay for those.
It's part of the general vibe I get about the whole sexual experience, and pics are a part of that just like BBBJ, CIM, Anal etc etc.[/QUOTE]
I think one has to be a paying member or a senior member grandfathered in years ago to view pictures. So the guys showing the girls "their" pictures are not just random guys on this site.
TJ
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[QUOTE=Forest]Not girl friendly.[/QUOTE]
No kidding. ALL Windsor hotels are the same. Heavy security, no way around it. Not even for cash. I managed it once at noon but got some heavy looks.
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[QUOTE=Forest]Not girl friendly.[/QUOTE]
Let it be a challenge to you.
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The Challenge
[QUOTE=Lorenzo]Let it be a challenge to you.[/QUOTE]
The problem is that the average working girl looks like the average working girl. Its hard to grab her hand and enter the hotel as if she is one's namorada.
That being said, after 3 hours in L'Uomo last night (2 GORGEOUS girls! I needed two hard pounding 1 hour sessions thanks to the deterrent effects of alcohol), I wasn't in great need for company. However, I will try to bring a girl up today just to take up the challenge. I have a plan, and if it works, I will let you know the trick.
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Snakes
[QUOTE=Bizzie]No doubt there is vermon amongst us.
That's the downside to a free forum. Any low life can get access.
I rarely ever negotiate for pics in advance, and never pay for those.
It's part of the general vibe I get about the whole sexual experience, and pics are a part of that just like BBBJ, CIM, Anal etc etc.[/QUOTE]
I think there is a snake in this blog. He is either a jealous gringo, or a snake gringo.
All snitching ever does is ruin some of the fun in Rio for us gringoes.
Some GDP's are less trusting of gringoes.
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DJ prices
[QUOTE=Sangue Bon]Yeah the same thing at Help, IMHO they are playing good music right now, I happen to like that techno/dance Trance type music, go ask the DJ and he has many CD's already made of the music playing, good stuff.[/QUOTE]
His prices are a bit high, in my opinion. I think he charges around R30.
But I guess worth it if want the music he plays
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[QUOTE=TJ Fannatic]I think one has to be a paying member or a senior member grandfathered in years ago to view pictures. So the guys showing the girls "their" pictures are not just random guys on this site.
TJ[/QUOTE]Isn't true that only paying members can view pictures. I wonder how many GDPs can purchase a membership to this foru. We forget that they have access to the internet and cash for membership.
Maybe they can't type or read English, but once they have access to the forum on their own, they could do their own snooping. Just like we all found this forum, they can too. So either we post photos and not worry about who sees them, or don't post photos at all using individual discretion.
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[QUOTE=Madd Love]His prices are a bit high, in my opinion. I think he charges around R30.
But I guess worth it if want the music he plays[/QUOTE]
I told him last night I will pay 20 and he took it, no problem. I was on the dance floor and heard a song I just had to have, went upstairs and said I want that song, he said 30, I said 20, end of story.
Then I took the cd home and among others danced with the girl of the night, they love it, I love it, it's all good.
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Cheap Short time Hotels and price around Help
Can somebody tell of any cheap 2hr hotel around copocabana area.
I will stay in a hostel in rio with girl , But plan some side action I hope.
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[QUOTE=Ub 6969]Can somebody tell of any cheap 2hr hotel around copocabana area.
I will stay in a hostel in rio with girl , But plan some side action I hope.[/QUOTE]
There is Hotel Diplomata , located where Barata Ribeiro intersects Princessa Isabel Avenue. 100 yards north of Barbarella Boite. I think the going rate was R 25 per hour. It is a dump, but you get what you pay for.
There is also Hotel Lido which is even worse for the same price. These hotels serves the clientele hanging out late on Avenida Atlantica.
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[QUOTE=Jamaicanceo]Isn't true that only paying members can view pictures. I wonder how many GDPs can purchase a membership to this foru. We forget that they have access to the internet and cash for membership.
Maybe they can't type or read English, but once they have access to the forum on their own, they could do their own snooping. Just like we all found this forum, they can too. So either we post photos and not worry about who sees them, or don't post photos at all using individual discretion.[/QUOTE]
I am pretty sure one has to be either a paying member or a senior member grandfathered in to view pictures. I have plenty of friends who are members here and some who were before me. They never got grandfathered to senior member nor pay their dues and they all tell me they can no longer view pictures. That was one of the reasons why we were told to upgrade a few years back.
Some of these guys were the ones who told me of this site. So I am not clear on what you mean at all. sorry.
And nobody here has forgotten that GDPS have cash to purrchase a membership. But why would they? I doubt GDPs are that concerned about what we think of them. I mean exactly how often do we discuss any one girl in particular?
And as far as pictures are concerned a GDP would have to scroll through all the pictures that just MIGHT SHOW up on every thread on all the forums like this one everyday on the chance that somebody has posted a picture of her!
This reminds me of the guys who complained that a girl I posted on here could get in trouble if her mother saw her picture. As if her mother has a membership or was grandfathered in years ago and checks JUST IN CASE somebody posts a picture of her daughter. Well, as I told them, there are easier ways, for example, mother could just go to HELP. And besides who is to say, I, or somebody else would not just post a picture of another forum. The mother would have to have memberships on countless forums to keep up!
Again, I think we may be exxagerating our importance here! Brazilians GDPs are not that concerned about what a bunch primarily constituted of gringos are saying about them. In the end they just want the cash.
If not for the "white knights" out there these GDPS would care less. The white knights who show the girls the photos posted here also imply the "negativity" attached with the photos. The white knights are the problem because they basically abuse their membership, in my opinion. If they have a problem with our photos then why the hell do they look at them?
These girls hang out in skimpy clothes and agressively chase men in bars and go home with diffeernt guys every night. Plus, every waiter knows they are hookers so why should they worry about this forum? They would not if not for guys abusing their membership trying to score points with the girls.
There is one guy in particular on here who is a real problem and I am about ready to post HIS PICTURE on here!
TJ
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I am on the Houston Forum
[QUOTE=Garotalover]I am with you Jake 993, We call them "white Knights" in Texas there a review site that reviews the performance of your encounter, there were johns that would copy your review and give it to a girl that you reviewed.So if you did a so so review of her, the girl had an attitude with you when you saw her. There were alot of "white Knights" here that thought that was a way to get on their good side, but the girls knew thay were just slime.[/QUOTE]I know what you mean about that particular forum that starts with a letter A and ends with a D. I quit posting there because of the kiss ass guys on there especially on the coed forum. Dudes sucking up to those "providers" every post. I have the same screenname there but I quit posting because the guys on there. Except for a few cool ones like Satin that I have hung with before.
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[QUOTE=Sangue Bon]I told him last night I will pay 20 and he took it, no problem. I was on the dance floor and heard a song I just had to have, went upstairs and said I want that song, he said 30, I said 20, end of story.
Then I took the cd home and among others danced with the girl of the night, they love it, I love it, it's all good.[/QUOTE]
Thats good he gave you R20. When I ask for a lower price he wouldn't budge. Maybe it was a different DJ.
Are the playing music in both rooms now?
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Which of these hotels....?
....is chica friendly?
....close the action?
....would you stay in, if cost was a factor?
I have never been to Brazil, so when I saw the chance to go there for work in June, I signed up. Boss may pay for hotel, might not. I am there for a conference, so my days will be tied up.
I will be a Rio newbie and a Brazil newbie, so of course, I will read all the posts I can. Speak Spanish, can understand Portuguese if it spoken slow or I am reading it. I have four nights available.
Augustos Copacabana
California Othon-Standard
California Othon-Deluxe
Martinique
Savoy Othon
Everest Rio
Excelsior Copacabana
Ipanema Plaza
Miramar Palace
Olinda Othon-Standard
Olinda Othon-Deluxe
Plaza Copacabana
Rio Othon Palace-Standard
Rio Othon Palace-Superior
Inter-Continental
Marriott Hotel
Sheraton Rio
Thanks in advance.
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Fed Ex in Rio?
Is there a federal express or equivalent here in copa? I have some sensitive tapes that i would like to mail back to myself instead of walking thru immigration with them If anyone can help, i would really appreciate it. thx
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Fedex
[QUOTE=Bravo]Is there a federal express or equivalent here in copa? I have some sensitive tapes that i would like to mail back to myself instead of walking thru immigration with them If anyone can help, i would really appreciate it. thx[/QUOTE]
You can call 08007033339 or stop by the internet cafe located near the intersection of Domingos Ferreira & Figueiredo Magalhães by the A2 sex shop (DF 63).
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[QUOTE=Iguana Six]....is chica friendly?
....close the action?
....would you stay in, if cost was a factor?
I have never been to Brazil, so when I saw the chance to go there for work in June, I signed up. Boss may pay for hotel, might not. I am there for a conference, so my days will be tied up.
I will be a Rio newbie and a Brazil newbie, so of course, I will read all the posts I can. Speak Spanish, can understand Portuguese if it spoken slow or I am reading it. I have four nights available.
Augustos Copacabana
California Othon-Standard
California Othon-Deluxe
Martinique
Savoy Othon
Everest Rio
Excelsior Copacabana
Ipanema Plaza
Miramar Palace
Olinda Othon-Standard
Olinda Othon-Deluxe
Plaza Copacabana
Rio Othon Palace-Standard
Rio Othon Palace-Superior
Inter-Continental
Marriott Hotel
Sheraton Rio
Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Well, if cost is a factor go for the cheapest, makes sense??? Excluding cost best for you in order would be IMO.
Marriot
Excelsior
I like Ipanema Plaza but not to everyones taste Everest is great but not in the mongering hub. On my present trip I am staying at the internacional golden tulip, worth a look.
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[QUOTE=Iguana Six]....is chica friendly?
....close the action?
....would you stay in, if cost was a factor?
I have never been to Brazil, so when I saw the chance to go there for work in June, I signed up. Boss may pay for hotel, might not. I am there for a conference, so my days will be tied up.
I will be a Rio newbie and a Brazil newbie, so of course, I will read all the posts I can. Speak Spanish, can understand Portuguese if it spoken slow or I am reading it. I have four nights available.
Augustos Copacabana
California Othon-Standard
California Othon-Deluxe
Martinique
Savoy Othon
Everest Rio
Excelsior Copacabana
Ipanema Plaza
Miramar Palace
Olinda Othon-Standard
Olinda Othon-Deluxe
Plaza Copacabana
Rio Othon Palace-Standard
Rio Othon Palace-Superior
Inter-Continental
Marriott Hotel
Sheraton Rio
Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]
Try posting on the Rio hotel/apartment thread. The guys on that thread probably have the answers.
TJ
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[QUOTE=Exec Talent]You can call 08007033339 or stop by the internet cafe located near the intersection of Domingos Ferreira & Figueiredo Magalhães by the A2 sex shop (DF 63).[/QUOTE]
that is awesome, thx for the informnation. i will roll thru there tomorrow. appreciate the help.
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[QUOTE=TJ Fannatic]I am pretty sure one has to be either a paying member or a senior member grandfathered in to view pictures. I have plenty of friends who are members here and some who were before me. They never got grandfathered to senior member nor pay their dues and they all tell me they can no longer view pictures. That was one of the reasons why we were told to upgrade a few years back.
Some of these guys were the ones who told me of this site. So I am not clear on what you mean at all. sorry.
And nobody here has forgotten that GDPS have cash to purrchase a membership. But why would they? I doubt GDPs are that concerned about what we think of them. I mean exactly how often do we discuss any one girl in particular?
And as far as pictures are concerned a GDP would have to scroll through all the pictures that just MIGHT SHOW up on every thread on all the forums like this one everyday on the chance that somebody has posted a picture of her!
This reminds me of the guys who complained that a girl I posted on here could get in trouble if her mother saw her picture. As if her mother has a membership or was grandfathered in years ago and checks JUST IN CASE somebody posts a picture of her daughter. Well, as I told them, there are easier ways, for example, mother could just go to HELP. And besides who is to say, I, or somebody else would not just post a picture of another forum. The mother would have to have memberships on countless forums to keep up!
Again, I think we may be exxagerating our importance here! Brazilians GDPs are not that concerned about what a bunch primarily constituted of gringos are saying about them. In the end they just want the cash.
If not for the "white knights" out there these GDPS would care less. The white knights who show the girls the photos posted here also imply the "negativity" attached with the photos. The white knights are the problem because they basically abuse their membership, in my opinion. If they have a problem with our photos then why the hell do they look at them?
These girls hang out in skimpy clothes and agressively chase men in bars and go home with diffeernt guys every night. Plus, every waiter knows they are hookers so why should they worry about this forum? They would not if not for guys abusing their membership trying to score points with the girls.
There is one guy in particular on here who is a real problem and I am about ready to post HIS PICTURE on here!
TJ[/QUOTE]
I believe only the Senior members or paid members can view pics. The girls are not logging on to any of he tens of sex forums to search for their pictures.
Undoubtedly, some of the names you'd reconize are the culprits. Thy get too chummy with the GDPs or fall in love or otherwise try to hide their inadequacies by showing the GDPs the pics and pretending that they are something better than just another a-hole who is paying for the pussy that has been fucked by hundreds or more.
But who gives a crap:)
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Termas Music
Thanks to those who responded. Unfortunately as I'm back in the US, I can't "ask the DJ" or "purchase the cd". Was hopeful someone would know the artist and song titles so I could download them.
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[QUOTE=Langer]Thanks to those who responded. Unfortunately as I'm back in the US, I can't "ask the DJ" or "purchase the cd". Was hopeful someone would know the artist and song titles so I could download them.[/QUOTE]
You can click here [url]http://radio.musica.uol.com.br/[/url] and listen to Brazilian and termas-gringo music. If you have a recorder like Total Recorder, you can make mp3s. Here is one of many websites of Brazilian radio stations: [url]http://www.shoutcast.com/genre/brasileiro[/url]
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is this one on the list? (mid-range terma)
Not come across this one myself before but I expect others will have. It´s at [b]21 Beco das Cancelas[/b], which is between Rosario and BA on the 4x4 side of Rio Branco, just one up from Quitanda. Just called Club 21.
Seems a mid-range club, a bit like Quitanda. Reasonably clean and so on without being posh. 20R entrance and a hudred odds for a girlie.
I get the mama to waive the 20R entrada so I can have a look, but the girls are still putting on their make-up (it´s about 1pm) so I split.
With the 20R saved, I blow it at BA85 on 15mins for 15R and a couple of soft drinks (so it actually came to 21R, but what the hell). I´m on the 4th floor, highest one open just now. Very pretty little garota called Giselle with ringlets down to her waist. She takes me thru to a staircase at the back and up another flight. Reasonable rooms. I ask her why we can´t have one with a double bed but she says those are for minimum one hour - adding that they don´t have a fan so the smaller rooms are a better deal really. She´s very sweet and sweet-tasting, clean and nice to look at from different angles. Not quite enough personality to make me want to ask for her phone number. Lets me take a photo of her bunda as long as I don´t show the tattoo. (Sorry guys - photos will have to wait a few months probably till I´m sitting at a PC with an SD slot and time on my hands).
Used the bathrooms on the way out and noticed quite a reasonable shower there if one had brought a towel along.
Wandered Saara market and got some disposable clothes for Carnaval.
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Majestic Rio Palace Hotel - STAY away fellows !
Just to warn everybody then STAY away from this hotel!
It's not GF friendly at all. I did spend 5 days (4 nights) at the hotel and I never return to this place.
When I booked & paid for my stay I asked about bringing girls along. The guy in charge (Mr. Emmerson) was very kind and helpful and told me not to worry about it. He added as long as you just bring a "nice one" then there is no problems. That was perfect since I normally don't wanna save 50 bucks on a girl and get an average model.
So the second night I go to Help and meet this really great girl and like 03:00 Am I arrive to the hotel with her. This Mr. Emmerson who's on nightshift tells me it cost 30R to bring the girl to the room! ? I asked him if we could make it 20R since he told me (when I payed for my stay) it would cost like 20-30R. AND then, here it comes, he also tells me that the girl need to leave at 06:00 AM. WTF!
What happens next is hard to say since I do not speak portuguise. But I know that my GF started to complain about the terms and she were accusing this guy for using mafioso methods. Not in a real bad manner but in a quite down tempo way. Next I'm told that the girl is not allowed to stay at the hotel! ? I ask why and Mr. Emmerson said, and I quote him: "because I changed my mind"! WHAT? Of course I got very surprised since I had nothing to do with what happened between him and the girl. Next I tried to soften the situation asking him to go to my room for just 1 single hour. He refuses and tells me that there is no way the girl can stay. In the end I decided to leave the hotel and go to Lido with my GF. Situation under control and I could do what I had in mine. Fine, evening completed. (almost). When
I returned to Majestic Rio Palace Hotel this Mr. Emmerson tells me that next time then he could assure me no problems at all! So actually I go to bed and think to myself that I better forget everything since it was just bad luck.
Later the very same day I decided to go to Help once again. About 03:00 AM I arrives at my hotel, same time and place like the day before. This time things were slightly different since I met 2 lovely girls at Help which I decided to bring along. When we enters the hotel (the guys in charge of security and the desk were all sleeping.) they get up and Mr. Emmerson looks at me and tells me that it's only permitted to bring 1 girl to the room. WHAT DA HELL! Is this guy making a new rule every night! And what the fuck is the difference between bringing one or two? It took me only a split second to get the girls out of the hotel and straight into a taxi and directly to Lido. And it took me only a split second out of a split second to move to another hotel the day after.
This is my experience with this hotel. I think the hotel is very bad for people like us especially because they tell customers that there is not a problem with girls. And for a fact there is a huge problem with taking a girl to your room. I guess this is my worst experience ever and I have travelled many other places during the years. I don't know if this guy at the hotel were expecting me to offer him like 100R or maybe 200R for letting me go with the girls. Who knows I just know I never get back to this place.
I paid 200R per night and I think the room was okay though the hotel is a bit old. The only positive thing about this place was the staff serving the breakfast, which was good. One day, they had the time to serve me breakfast even though I came 1 hour too late.
Complete address:
Majestic Rio Palace Hotel
Rua 5 De Julho - Copacabana, 195
Rio de Janeiro Rio de Janeiro - Brasil
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Pinkerton's South American Mongerlogue
Day 1: Rio: Termas 4x4
Flying in from London I was asking myself the questions:
Would Rio live up to the high expectations I'd been building up for the 9 months since I first booked my flight?
In particular would it live up to the experiences, girls and great sex I enjoyed in Thailand in November?
Would the girls be 'my type'?
Would the big bundas really be that attractive compared to the tight little bums I enjoyed in Thailand?
Well, 24 hours into my Rio trip and all the answers are positive. They're positive thanks to that place called 4 x 4. I enjoyed the FKK Palace in Frankfurt and imagined that this would be similar. It's so much better – and it's the quality of the girls that makes the difference.
Arrive, put your gown on and you're on your way. The bar is a tight space but you soon see the attraction of that. I got there about 4. 15 – taxi from Copa 23 reais (£8? ). Although this is early there was already a great choice of girls, all in classy sexy bikinis and g-strings. You may think me easy-to-please, but there was not a single girl there who I could not have enjoyed taking to a room. They are wonderful pieces of tasty meat, beautifully formed. But the best thing about them is the smile on their faces and the pleasure shown in meeting you. It was simply a great atmosphere – more like a party and nothing like the meat market it actually is.
Put those two things together – stunning women and their wonderful attitude – and suddenly the choice becomes difficult. I told myself I would stick to my guns and despite what other attractions there might be I would use my checklist of services. That's the great thing when the average talent is so high – you don't lose out by being really choosy. I spent time chatting to two including one very cute one with the most delicious smile. But when I checklisted them, it was no anal and a so-so answer on CIM.
The third ticked all the boxes, had the most wonderful arse which she ground into my every-growing dick, and she laughed a lot. The final clincher was when she agreed to have photos taken – 'without face', but photos.
So off we went to the desk and I decided on a normal cabine and an hour. It was before 5 pm so I saved the 40 reais entrance fee and girl & room were 200 reais. That's £66 these days, whereas a year or so ago it would have been only £50. But one of the advantages in 4 x 4 is that you get the hour. It doesn't matter how quickly you come, or how many times.
We showered and then S – I'm going into details so it's only fair that I call her S. Offered her lovely body for photography. Now the problem I have is that when I concentrate I can take good photos. But when there's a beautiful girl in front of me I just can't concentrate. Every photo I took was met with a request to be shown it. She presented her bunda and asked me to take some of that. She looked disappointed with the results. She was expecting fashion photography whereas what I am after is the equivalent of holiday snaps: 'Been there, done that'.
I gave her a licking all over and then she set about me with her mouth. Despite the Cialis, Hernando (we are in Brazil after all) was not getting all that (in their word) 'strong'. I opened my legs to indicate that attention to my balls might help. Well, that started an assault on my balls and, more importantly, my arsehole. After wonderful work on my balls, she rimmed my arsehole deeper and deeper. I then felt her leaning off the bed to get a condom and thought she was going to climb on top. No, it was to give me the best prostate massage I have ever enjoyed. She put my dick (still not at full attention) in her mouth and did things to it with her tongue and mouth without any external movement. At the same time she fucked my arsehole with her finger further and further in.
When I had a short moment of calm amidst the exquisite ecstasy of all this, I thought to myself how glad I was that I'd invested the extra 20 reais (£7) to have the full hour rather than 40 minutes. Then I leant back and let it happen to me. Wonderful.
I don't know how long that went on for but it could have lasted for ever as far as I was concerned. However, I didn't want to come that way and these days it's rare for me to achieve 2 pops in an hour. Having gone to the trouble of establishing that she did anal I was determined to enjoy it. So I encouraged S into a 69 which can usually be relied upon to give my dick the final spark to hardness. It did, but I was slightly concerned that she didn't seem to like my finger in her arse. Fingers in pussy, yes; arse, a polite no. This worried me – was she going to turn out not to be into anal?
So I suggested we got on with it and with the condom finally on, I opted for arse first. She lubed a little and bent over the bed to present me with my first Brazilian bunda arse. I pushed gently and I was in. Tight as I enjoy but clearly ok for her as she now moaned genuinely and shouted for me to go faster and harder. S reached round behind her and dragged one of my hands to her tit and I followed with the other. That was it. Here was a girl who doesn't just do anal, but loves it. It was all too much for me and I got to the point of no return and had – despite my wish to experience her pussy – no choice but to let go.
We collapsed on the bed and once we came round I tried to tell her that I was sorry because she probably wouldn't get a chance to come now with me pussy-fucking her, unless a miracle happened to my dick. No problem, came the answer, I came just then with your dick in my arse. That was what all the noise was about – and it was proved when I reached down to feel her dripping pussy.
S tried to achieve the miracle of my second coming and I enjoyed every minute of her attempt. But no go. We laughed and cuddled. I licked her pussy, took a few more photos. The phone never rang and we gently finished. We'd had 75 minutes as we left the cabine. A great 75 minutes in which the only disappointment was that I didn't have her pussy. If only I was young again.
Shower and then back to the bar. More girls approached. Variations in the amount of English they could speak, but all with the same lovely smile and friendly attitude. I explained that it would be some time before I would be strong again; some checked for themselves whether their touch could do the trick.
Finally I decided that as it was my first night and I'll be back later in the week, I'd preserve my money and some of my sexual energy for another night. By this time it was just before 7 and the small bar room was packed. It was then that I realised another benefit of its lack of space. As I made my way the length of the bar to the door, I must have pressed my dick – through the thin material of the gown – against ten absolutely stunning women – some of whom I hope to put it further into when I next visit.
Tomorrow, L'uomo.
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[QUOTE=Thaimas]Just to warn everybody then STAY away from this hotel!
Complete address:
Majestic Rio Palace Hotel
Rua 5 De Julho - Copacabana, 195
Rio de Janeiro Rio de Janeiro - Brasil[/QUOTE]
I feel your pain, been there done that and will never do it again, rent an apartment next time.
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[QUOTE=Sangue Bon]I feel your pain, been there done that and will never do it again, rent an apartment next time.[/QUOTE]For this reason, I always get an apartment. But as a general rule, don't all GF friendly hotels only allow one GDP at a time and usually charge $R30? That 6a checkout for her is the first time I've heard that!
Thaimas:
I've passed the Lido many a time. What did the Lido cost you, and for how much time? How was the room? They have fantasy suites there? i.e. mirrors and sex chair? :D
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Nice report Pinkerton!
[QUOTE=Chingon]as a general rule, don't all GF friendly hotels only allow one GDP at a time and usually charge $R30?
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Probably all Copa hotels. The Ibis, or ones that charge for room rather than the people, don´t.
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Pinkerton's South American Mongerlogue : Day 2
Day 2: Rio: Termas L'uomo
If you're looking for monger paradise, I found it tonight. It's called 'Tuesday night at L'uomo'.
Arrived there about 4. 15 and we were the first men in there, surrounded by 20 or more gorgeous girls. They didn't make a nuisance of themselves; just danced in front of us to show off their wares – and in particular their 'Brazilian treasures' – their bundas.
But it wasn't long before I couldn't resist making a sign of lust towards a pretty morena who came and joined me – I'll call her P. I cuddled her and she cuddled me. She placed my hand on her arse as her hand headed south underneath my robe and discovered that she'd made a conquest. I would have expected Hernando to take longer to react but she was so so sexy and the effect was immediate.
The great thing about a quiet Tuesday – and I'm comparing not only to 4x4 the previous night but also to the German FKKs – was that there was clearly little advantage to the girls rushing their client to be available for the next one. So the whole thing was much more relaxed and it must have been a good half hour before temptation got the better of me and I handed over my key for her to go and book the cabine.
She was gone 5 minutes and then returned to lead me to the room. I'd taken her through the menu and the answer had been yes to everything apart from CIM, instead of which she invited me to come on her face.
True to her promise she gave a wonderful bareback blowjob. It was accompanied firstly by ball licking and sucking and then she lubed her finger and up it went – no condom. She pumped that finger in my behind while she pumped her other fist on my dick, and I had to stop her a couple of times or the 40 minutes would have been over fast.
Then I moved her to 69 and gave her a much appreciated sucking. Were the moans genuine? I suppose I'll never know, but they did seem to change from when I'd licked her out when we first got to the room. And the volume increased again as I first doggied her, then mish, then she rode me cowgirl. It was all good, but the urge to try her arse was too much and I asked for that when I felt that the time was running out, as was my ability to withstand the pressure.
Unusually for anal, P chose to be on her back, legs in air, and invited me in – a real treat. She asked me to take it slowly and we were probably a minute or so effecting entry. But once in, she let me know that I could go at it hard, and I did. The best thing was that I could see her pretty face as I pumped. My enjoyment of her anus was both wonderful and short-lived. Any thought of coming on her face went out with a great orgasm up that tight arse.
All the time we had the mirrors to see ourselves in – old me with one of the prettiest, if not the prettiest, girls I have ever fucked. As with my 4x4 experience, she was sweet as well as sexy.
After showering, I went back to a barstool in the small bar. It was only 6. 15. In a room that size and with so few men, most of the girls knew I had just been with P so their expectations of me as an immediate money provider would have been low. But it didn't stop them coming to dance in front of me, introducing themselves, giving me a friendly stroke through the gown.
By this time probably another 8. 10 guys had appeared and some more girls. But the girls still outnumbered the guys by a considerable margin and it was clear even then that some of these lovely looking babes would not find a paying partner this evening.
After meeting a good proportion of them, one came and started to entertain with her dancing. She was attractive without being the best looker in the room, but her vibrant personality and sense of fun were everything. And her body.
Again, the lack of paying alternatives meant that she was patient to gradually work on me, and it was a full two hours later when I experienced the first renewal of activity down below and decided to give her a go. It had been a fun two hours, teasing, playing and laughing with the lovely M and a succession of her friends who she introduced.
M didn't do anal or CIM and I didn't ask her about photos (P had been good for non-face ones). I just wanted a good shag with this lovely friendly girl and as long as she could suck well enough to get me hard I really didn't mind how I came.
I started by giving her an extensive oral examination which she genuinely loved. It felt like something she didn't get much of. Her oral was ok rather than great and I had to lead her how I liked it. We then moved to 69 and she was well away, begging me to fuck her pussy with my tongue rather than just lick her clit. Despite the fact that she didn't do anal, she reacted well to a finger probing her arsehole – again as though it was something fairly rare for her.
I was fairly knackered by this time so I invited her to get on top and we had a lengthy bout of cow girl in various positions. Throughout this it turned her on to watch us in the mirror. I had to keep stopping her as she was continually bringing me close to the point of no return. Finally the phone rang to say time was up. She got on her haunches and fucked me with all her might and I came big.
Both girls had been just what was right at the time – lots of energy put into P, and a really good basic fuck with M. Many thanks to both.
It was 10. 15 when I returned to the bar. There was a guy who looked almost asleep on a bar stool, and then my friend and myself. That was it. Well. Apart from about 20 gorgeous girls all looking for a shag to finish their night with a smile. Where were you, guys?
Not cheap. 60 reais admission reduced to 35 for having 2 girls. Girls 200 reais each. 70 on the bar which included buying a snack and drinks for some girls. Total 500 reais = £165. But a great evening with some very classy girls. Worth every penny!
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[QUOTE=Chingon]For this reason, I always get an apartment. But as a general rule, don't all GF friendly hotels only allow one GDP at a time and usually charge $R30? [/QUOTE]
Yes GF hotels only allow 1 GDP in but when I stayed in hotels once I got 2 in to the Debret because the night desk clerk told me anything is possible for the right price and also once in the Luxor Regente, 2 blonds from Barbarellas. But as a general rule forget it.
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[QUOTE=Chingon]For this reason, I always get an apartment. But as a general rule, don't all GF friendly hotels only allow one GDP at a time and usually charge $R30? That 6a checkout for her is the first time I've heard that!
Thaimas:
I've passed the Lido many a time. What did the Lido cost you, and for how much time? How was the room? They have fantasy suites there? i.e. mirrors and sex chair? :D[/QUOTE]Lido is $R40 for 2 hrs, R$100 for 6 hrs also in (Jan 09). I've been several times and always in the basic rooms, their clean I will give them that and decent showers etc towels and that. Also porn on TV but its got a good seedy feel but its always been the best of a bad bunch from balcony that I've ended up there. Any hotties or duplas go to Sinless or the one in Leblon, forget name but know where it is.
As for suites in Lido I've never had one but I'm sure a friend said he always get suite with jaquzzi etc but I've never experienced them more than likely due to it only being balcony chics I been there at 4am or so after unsuccessful venture to help.
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[QUOTE=Pinkerton]"She pumped that finger in my behind."[/QUOTE]Too much information. It messed up my visual. But it was a great report.
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As far as I remember I paid 60R for 3 hours of fun. I think the rooms are quite clean and very comfortable though I can't remember if there were mirros. There was no sex chair in the room I got - perhaps it's possible in another room.. I went there twice and I think that I paid 55R the second time (I'm not sure really).
[QUOTE=Chingon] I've passed the Lido many a time. What did the Lido cost you, and for how much time? How was the room? They have fantasy suites there? i.e. mirrors and sex chair? :D[/QUOTE]
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Pinkerton....
....great report man !
I enjoyed to read both them, actually I am leaving curitiba to floripa but I miss the termas in Rio as the best place I saw in the last 1 month here.
If you still not been there, I suggest you to take a look to solarium21, a bit far, after the lake, but the place with the best looking girls.
Keep on have fun friend !
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3 photos
I LOVE L'uomo. My favorite termas in Rio!
4x4 a close second.
She was my favorite from L'uomo. Wish she wouldn't have objected to her face being shown, truly beautiful.
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[QUOTE=Pinkerton]
In particular would it live up to the experiences, girls and great sex I enjoyed in Thailand in November?
Would the girls be 'my type'?[/QUOTE]
How would you rate Bangkok/Pattaya to Rio? I'm all booked up for 10 days in November to BKK and Pattaya. I just don't know if it can get better than Rio?
I don't care how good Thailand is though, I will return to Rio!
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Pinkerton
Excellent reports deserve to be given recognition, and yours is one. Welcome to the forum.
BTW, it's perfectly all right to report a girl's name. It's not her real name anyway, and she would no doubt appreciate your mentioning her name, because it will probably bring her more business. I've had girls thank me for mentioning them favorably.
L
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Name names please
I throughly agree with Lorenzo: it was a great report from Pinkerton but it is very useful to have the actual work names. There are plenty of morenas at l´uomos. P could well have been Pietra. if it was her, I did not know that she allowed CIM. Would be great to have confirmation without having to ask her.
[QUOTE=Lorenzo]Excellent reports deserve to be given recognition, and yours is one. Welcome to the forum.
BTW, it's perfectly all right to report a girl's name. It's not her real name anyway, and she would no doubt appreciate your mentioning her name, because it will probably bring her more business. I've had girls thank me for mentioning them favorably.
L[/QUOTE]
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No problem with multiple girls
[QUOTE=Sangue Bon]Yes GF hotels only allow 1 GDP in but when I stayed in hotels once I got 2 in to the Debret because the night desk clerk told me anything is possible for the right price and also once in the Luxor Regente, 2 blonds from Barbarellas. But as a general rule forget it.[/QUOTE]
I do a lot of threesomes (often with non-GDPs) and have had no problem with having more than one girl at various hotels. Tell the girls to dress appropriately and to enter the hotel like they belong there.
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Love Motels
This site has some other good information as well.
[url]http://www.funsunbrazil.com/love%20Motels.htm[/url]
[url]http://www.guiademoteis.com.br/home.aspx?id=000200000000[/url]
This is a good one in Gloria
[url]http://www.guiademoteis.com.br/moteis/552/Diamond-Hotel.aspx[/url]
VIPs in Leblon (where many pornos are shot)
[url]http://www.guiademoteis.com.br/moteis/53/Vips-Motel.aspx[/url]
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Magic Hotel?
Is the Magic Hotel still a love motel? I know it's been renovated it. The old website was more, "love motel" oriented, with pics of the fantasy suites and rates.
The new website is more normal hotel, and the rooms are basic, not fantasy suite. Why, they even have a restaurant, buffet style.
It's now called the Magic Palace Hotel.
[url]http://www.magichotel.com.br[/url]
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Pinkerton's South American Mongerlogue : Day 3
Day 3: Rio: Termas L'uomo again
After a busy day doing the Rio sights to get what a friend (I'll introduce you to him in a later report) calls 'alibi photos', I thought I'd have a day off the girls. I was booked to go to the Maracana for a football match at 20:00 so could only do a quick visit anyway. But my friend twisted my arm and off we went to L'uomo.
4 pm. Us two men, about 15 girls. The girls sat around doing girl talk, we sat at the bar drinking water – all very uninspiring. The choice just didn't seem anything like the previous night. One or two came over to say Hello, but I couldn't get enthused. Perhaps it was me? A few other guys arrived, chose the best of the bunch and went off to the cabines. I ordered another water and sat there. Then I started to tell myself that at least it would be a cheap visit – only the 60 reais admission.
M (#2 last night) came over and I was tempted. But then I reminded myself that at these prices it should all be about new experiences. The lovely P (#1 last night) arrived with a few others – they were late because it was apparently weekly doctor day.
Then one I hadn't spotted before came and introduced herself – I'll call her D. It wasn't long before we were teaching each other Portuguese and English and having fun. I bought her some drinks and was gradually getting committed. Eventually I got to the 'menu' stage, but I just checked anal and OWO and left it at that – after all I'd found that most of them give me a bit of a 'what do you take me for? ' look when I ask about 'goza na buca' (or something that sounds like that). But after an hour or so chatting with this pretty face and gorgeous body I finally handed over my key.
What a good decision! We got to the room and I asked her to do a strip – it wasn't professional stripper standard but she asked if she could watch the effect on my dick as she performed. And it was very evident. I gave her a quick introductory licking before she got down to work below. Great sucking and then. A finger in the fundament. And she clearly knew just how to use it to full effect. So much so that she had to ask me to be a bit quieter. A couple of times I said 'now it's time for your arse' but she pushed me back down on the bed and it got even better.
When I thought about moving to 69, to get myself at full strength for entry, it was with some reluctance because it meant her extracting her digit. But into 69 we went and I was to have the best 69 of my mongering life. At her end of things, she was sucking my dick while plugging my arse with her other hand. At my end, I was licking and tonguing. But D took control and, after a few attempts to find the lie of the land, positioned herself at the exact point over my face best for herself – I just stayed still and provided the tongue action. Quite how she co-ordinated the movements I'll never know – finger in and out of my arse, mouth up and down on my dick, body backwards and forwards over my tongue – all at the same time.
Now her advice re noise seemed to have gone out of the window as she started yelling the house down. I joined in as the exquisite action on my lower parts got better and better. I couldn't see the detail although a couple of times I did look in the mirror to see her beautiful brown body working away on me. But there was no time for mirror – I was in paradise and gradually realising that this would be my last action – I was going to have to give. We'd had no discussion about CIM. I'd asked girls the other nights and had a no, so hadn't bothered to ask D. Perhaps she would get the warning, as my moans reached their crescendo, and take him out. Finally I let it go.
But where had it gone? As my orgasm subsided, it felt as though my dick was still in the warm and wet haven it had been in. Then, slowly, with no rush and no fuss, D got up, turned, smiled at me, motioned that she couldn't say anything, and quietly disposed of the proceeds into a tissue. I apologised, but she smiled, told me it was ok and gave me a big kiss.
I'd no idea how much of the 40 minutes had gone, but I would have expected some 'turning off' at this stage and first attempts to 'pack up'. Not so with D. We spooned on the bed, and then she opened her legs inviting me to play with her pussy. I could not refuse when I realised that she wanted to come. So, down on my knees on the floor and my tongue back to work again, joined by a finger. She was very wet. I have to tell you that she could squeeze my single finger like nothing I have ever felt before – amazing muscle action. Finally, she licked her fingers and got to work on her clit herself and came with one of those quiet but genuine big sighs.
She lay back looking very happy and as we cuddled again on the bed I said I was glad she'd cum. Then she gave me the real treat of telling me it was the second time. When I'd been in the clouds of ecstasy coming in her mouth, all that noise was her coming in a big way too. A first for me – a mutual come while in 69 – her coming as I came in her mouth. Something else for my record of special moments. Now I understood why she had got up so slowly to empty out.
I know now that I have to have her again, because I've simply got to have the feeling of my dick being squeezed like her pussy squeezed my finger.
Thanks, D – wonderful!
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How was the Soccer game?
[QUOTE=Pinkerton]Day 3: Rio: Termas L'uomo again
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Did you make it to M? Did F win? How many times did L pass the ball? Any penalties? How about J? Did he score a goal? Please give us all the details.
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Opening hours
Do the termas have normal opening hours during the carnaval next week?
Paul
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[QUOTE=Funkignitor]I think the title of pinkertons vacation should be smell my finger lol[/QUOTE]
ROFL. No doubt his finger wouldn´t work on the fingerprint ID at my gym either . . . ;)
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Sunrise over Skankland
Sunday night/Monday morning. Nog is shut. Skank bars on Prada doing a trickle trade. Occasional hopeful hoe on NS Copa. Feel like the walk.
On an impulse, I march briskly to Balcony. As if I really want to be there. A squiggly sign over the bar assures me, [i]Open 24hrs from 1st Oct to 1st Apr.[/i] Which means it´s open now :) When even most of Copa´s working girls are having a night´s rest.
I attach myself to the bar-end. The sun is about to rise. The silky hand caresses my thigh, even before its owner, a black woman I find strangely unattractive, slides into view. I let he pre-packaged patter reach a sentence-end. My look, a sort of friendly f-off (together with a nice smile and some kindly muttered words) provide (I trust) the full stop. I´m left in peace again. And Balcony [I]is[/i], strangely and beautifully, peaceful. Maybe about a dozen working girls hazily plying their customers. Two South-American tourist girls saying goodnight to a couple of attractive young men (who they´ve bought drinks for it seems). Even the pigeons look relaxed like they belong. I could almost drift back half a century.
The soft silence is brashly broken by an ugly Americano loudly ordering a Jack Daniels.* Fat. Unshaven. He is escorted by a slim, beautiful and perfectly attired young lady – who I pray is getting paid handsomely for services in respect of his company. But he´s not content to inflict his largesse on her alone. He ´offers´ the two tourist girls beer, flexing his knowledge of Portuguese, and speaking in a tone reserved for – what in his country is called – trailer trash.
The less pretty girl, but the blonde I fancy, looks away, mildly nonplussed. She is heavier-set than her brunette companion with classic good looks, but she has a gentle refinement of features I find particularly appealing. Happy Jack is being gregarious. Which includes buying anyone in the bar. I catch her embarrassed features as her face flushes. Our eyes dance to the tinkle of a samba song in the background, sharing a twinkling gaze and no doubt both wondering if Happy Jack will maybe do the decent thing and drown himself.
I hold her smile long enough for us both to have to suppress giggles. I motion her to shush. (Like many Americanos, Fat Jack is quite a big bloke and I have no desire to see him agitated. And isn´t this an Americanos bar? Maybe I should be the one to go drown . . .
A mulatta girl I don´t want but who makes me laugh bats chatter with me as I try to tie her nicely in knots. Twenty minutes pass. After the fourth attempt, cheeky mulatta girl she gives up with good grace and goes home with a skanky-looking pal. Flash Jack is trumpeting a selection of dollars, Euros and other currencies to get nice consort tart to fix a price. Amazingly they leave. Blonde tourist girl avoids my look. I probably now have a monger label. I (stupidly) show disinterest in her gorgeous friend who gives me a couple of polite openings. The three of us watch the sun creep over the horizon.
A drunk cripple tries to steal a lime from the bar and gets caught. The bouncer, bored out of his skull, leaps into action and gives him a couple of slaps. The two girls are moving towards the beach. Sad cripple tries to hold his own at a safe distance but bouncer boy is clearly irritated and goes after him. Official-style shouting and verbal. The girls are almost hidden to the waist by the rise of the sand.
Staff start piling chairs on tables. Was the sign merely decorative, I wonder?
The hair of the blonde girl mixes with the sunlight. I can hardly see her now. I can still taste the magic of her movement.
I walk home strangely elated. Are some things occasionally maybe even better than sex??
[color=gray]*of course, his ´ugliness´ is partly my perception. I don´t dislike Americans, just most of the ones I meet on Avenida Atlantica. This guy was admittedly coarse, but it is more a matter of my tastes than any judgement, moral or otherwise. I think my own American friends are more subtle, but many still have a cultural bias I find wearying (although in other situations it would be a bonus). If you see the current (Oscar nominated) movie, [i]Vicky Cristina Barcelona[/i], the dilemma is expressed perfectly. The rich, sensible, educated fiancée in the film is a sensible choice for engaged girl on holiday in Spain. But she longs for the spiritual freedom of the artist, represented by Javier Bardem. In this light, the American is seen as unintentionally patronising and oblivious to the beauty of life beyond the material. The dilemma is that he is a really nice chap. America is so isolated that, like Arabs in Thailand, its inhabitants can have genuine difficulty finding a way of expression that isn´t stereotypically self-centred and all-knowing. And I have genuine difficulty putting up with it. So nothing personal, Mr Flash Jack. Avenida Atlantica, rightly or wrongly, belongs to you. That I long for an earlier time is my problem. [/color]
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Does anyone know where on earth i can find KY Liquid in Copa? I can find KY gel all over, but i ran out of KY liquid and i need help. THX
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[QUOTE=Funkignitor]I think the title of pinkertons vacation should be smell my finger lol[/QUOTE]
I don't get it. From what I understood in Pinkerton's posts, I would have thought the joke would the smell of the [i]GDP's[/i] finger, not his own.
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Ky
While waiting for the counter guy at Drogaria Phecho, N. S. Copacabana 190 I noticed a display on KY gel They also had small bottles of KY warming gel.
If one of these "works for you," they have many locations all over Copacabana.
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Pinkerton's South American Mongerlogue : Day 4
Day 4: Rio: Back to Termas 4x4
I'm wondering if I'm losing my critical capacity. Why? Because I'm running out of superlatives. All I can say is that tonight at 4x4 I had one of the great, great fucks of my life.
Aimed to get there for 4 pm but the traffic was busy, so by the time I got changed and into the bar it was 4. 20. I'm a bargain hunter and desperately wanted to get a girl before the 5 pm deadline so I could save the 40 reais admission fee. But I still needed to be choosy.
It was actually quite busy, even numbers of guys and girls. There were a few stunners amongst them, of course. Fortunately, a very pretty girl with a fabulous smile (there's got to be a smile) came to say Hi. She spoke some English which was good. We joked a lot and cuddled, then kissed. She kissed deeply and passionately. That was the clincher. Well, I forgot to mention that she had the most wonderful arse, and that helped too. My stunner will be called 'L'.
I almost forgot to go through my menu. Yes, she said I do everything. 'Culo? ' I asked, just to check. I love culo she said and I could see from the way she said it that she meant it. Here was a girl who prefers anal to pussy. I'd almost committed myself before I remembered that I hadn't asked about photos. I hadn't bothered about it at L'uomo the previous night because taking them 'without face' is so limiting and interrupts the flow too much for the benefit it brings. So when I asked L about photos I was not really expecting a positive reply. Yes, she said, and added 'no. Something'. I almost didn't push for a translation, expecting that what she had said was 'no face'. But I asked again. The answer came – 'no. Problem, film as much as you want'. And so it came to pass that at my advanced age I made my first porno movie of myself on the job with this fabulous girl.
Off to the room. Great oral, really top-class. Without being asked, she went down to probe my arse with her tongue and did that for ages while she sucked my dick. Then she put a finger in – they all seem to do it so if you're coming to Rio, be prepared. She saw the effect so kept it going. Eventually I asked to have a look at her assets and she knelt down, stuck her bum in the air and held herself open. I sucked her wonderful pussy and rimmed her. That she clearly adored. Then into 69 for some more, with her fingering and sucking.
All the time she was talking dirty and saying how much she loved it – gustosa, gustosa. So it was L who stopped us and, getting a condom out, said 'I want you in my arse'. She was the first of my Rio girls to put the condom on with her mouth. Then on all fours and my dick into her arse as I filmed. She had no problem with the filming; what she did have a problem with was that the filming stopped me concentrating on what I was doing and she desperately wanted to come with the anal. So I put the camera down and responded to her requests. Basically, she just wanted me to hammer her arsehole as hard as I could, so I obliged. I played with her tits (small but natural and sweet), I played with her clit, she played with her clit – and all the time me pushing forward into her arse and L pushing back. It was anal to die for.
Thinking of the porn film I was starring in, I asked her if she could do anal cowgirl. Of course. On she got, inserted and we went again. L leaned back away from me so that her pussy was fully available for us both to play with, and for me to film the action in both holes. Then she reached for a condom, put it on her finger, stretched around behind her and inserted it – using the condom because the whole finger was going in this time. So we were both being arse-fucked at the same time.
It was quite a session. I had been making the mistake of trying to hold back my orgasm, had half cum and was getting a bit worried about whether I would be able to perform at the end. L was shouting 'orgasmo, orgasmo'. So, although I could have enjoyed this bliss for another few minutes, I let go and gave her what she asked for.
I'm not sure if my written description of all this reflects just how great it was. She was simply gorgeous to look up at, simply gorgeous when she turned her face to look at me during the anal doggy and you could see from her features that there was no pretence – she just loved being fucked there. Simply gorgeous when she cleaned me up with tissues, kissed my dick, and then got back on the bed to kiss and cuddle.
I am in love. L is no youngster. I guessed at 23, but she's actually older. It shows in her expert performance. For a total outlay of £66 I had an hour of all-out sex. I've had all the individual elements before – here, in the UK, in Thailand – but it was her looks, her sheer commitment, and getting everything in one pretty package that puts L on a pedestal. How will I ever better that?
The magical thing is that I will always have my film to remind me of this classic session. It may be a little shaky and often at strange angles, but it's all there. The upside is that it features this gorgeous porn star. The downside is that her co-star is some unattractive old geezer.
Have I just been lucky with the five girls I've chosen so far this week? Is it luck, or are all the Rio girls of such a high standard in the sack that you can't really go wrong?
Tomorrow night's 'Last night at L'uomo' might help to answer that.
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Sunrise over Skankland
Christopherd,
As always, very enjoyable post. Hey, a little suggestion: have you thought about writting a book or a series of short stories of your adventures in Rio? You have quite a refined writting style which I reckon would be quite a success. :)
Cheers.
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Hi guys
Is Best Western Copa, girl friendly?
Thanks for the reply in advance.
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[QUOTE=Naxnax]Hi guys
Is Best Western Copa, girl friendly?
Thanks for the reply in advance.[/QUOTE]
You should post this question in the hotels/apartments section because you will get more replies. This used to be the Rio Copa and was somewaht girlfriendly back then. As long as you registered the girl (1 girl) you were okay. But now that the hotel is owned by Best Western I am not sure. One thing is for sure, they really raised their rates. This place used to be R$100-$120 at one point.
In general Rio hotels are not GF, with some exceptions, of course. But it all depends on how the girl looks, speaks, and acts. It also depends on whether you bring up one girl or try to bring up more than that. I actually stayed here once, registered the girl when I checked in and had no problem.
Just keep in mind that most of these Copa hotels have families and bona fide tourist staying there and do not want to be seen as monering spots.
If you cannot take a girl up do not worry. There are cheap motels nearby to the Copa. There is one a few blocks away. Plus, you can always hit the thermas.
Also, at times taking girls back to your room is worse than not being able to. For most of we do not take random girls back anyway. Some guys have pyscho tests they give before a girl can come back. So in the end stay at the Copa if that suits you and do not stay elsewhere for the purpose of taking girls back.
Once you know some girls and have been to Rio a number of times it is easier.
TJ
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First short trip to Rio
Just has returned from my short Rio trip. I would like to thank all board contributors that made my visit to Rio a nice experience.
There were only two early morning planes that landed at GIG but it took me an hour and a half to pass immigration.
I exchanged minimum amount at Safra Bank. There is an exchange fee and rate is unfavourable. I did all my withdrawals at the HSBC ATMs.
Then I got a “Nomad Guide to Rio” at Riotur kiosk. It has maps, taxi fares, bus schedules etc. I took a taxi to Copa for R45. The rate is R40 plus luggage. Again it took an hour and a half.
I stayed at the hotel near Siqueira Campos metro station (Posto 3) My venues were geared towards Copa, everything in walking distance. The only exception was a night taxi fare to Help (R6-10).
Help entrance is R28 before midnight and R38 after both for ladies and gentlemen. At midnight you may hear Beatles’ “Now I find I've changed my mind and opened up the doors” The place buzzes around 2am. One night I picked up a girl from Niteroi. She was very mechanical but professional (R200). On the other occasion it was a cute all night carioca (R250). She was drunk by the end of the night (my mistake). There was even a short moment when I thought I fucked her to death as she laid without movement. It took quite a while to wake her up in the morning. Then she left in a hurry forgetting her bra at my room and promising to come back when she realized I was actually staying at this hotel.
All the restaurants like Mab’s, Balcony, Meia Pataca, Terraco Atlantico were waste of time.
On Sunday I visited termas Monte Carlo. There were like 15 girls.
Termasmontecarlo.com.br Rua Hilario de Gouveia, 19
(R60 - entrance, R150 girl - 40 min, R60 – room = total R270. 1h – R200 girl)
After a caipirinha I found a passionate 21 years old. Photo session, all positions and overall best Rio experience.
When I visited termas L’Uomo there were around 15 girls.
Luomo.com.br Rua Siqueira Campos,143 2nd floor #15 after 4 pm daily to midnight. Entrance for the patrons is from the outer open perimeter.
(R60 entrance and R10 waived if you choose a girl, R200 girl and room - 40 min = total R250)
Found a 23 years old girl from Petropolis with amazing body and gorgeous ass.
L’Uomo and Monte Carlo were comparable to each other. It looks like when in Rio the best way is to go with termas.
Pay attention to numerous flyers that are passed on to you on the streets as some advertise the services you need.
Visited a small place at Rua NS d Copacabana 583 # 203 or #204 11:30-21:30
(Between HSBC and Bradesco)
Rates: no entrance fee, sauna - R30, girls 30 min -R110, 40 min – R150, 1h- R190
I saw only 3 girls. Then I enjoyed 19 years old from Belo Horizonte.
Visited Dezeju’s Massagem at Rua Toneleiros, 173 Mon-Sat 10-22 near metro Siqueira Campos (R75 – 40 min, R125 – 1h, no entrance fee) There were like 7 girls
Took a 20 years old paulista into oval office (round bed, mirrors, chair etc) She showed me her excellent quadril (hips) workout.
These little dirty ***** houses are great fun (madam or other fellow entering your room, naked people drinking in the waiting room, you see my point)
The following are nearby joints that I had no time to visit on this trip:
Rua NS d Copacabana 500 #407 R100 9-21 (advertised in O Globo or O Dia)
Club 22 Rua Siqueira Campos, 22 Mon-Fri 14-24, Sat 14-22 (flyers, entrance fee)
Miami strip at the corner of Rua Hilario de Gouveia and Rua NS d Copacabana
Rio is incomparable. While everywhere you do girls, in Rio girls do you.
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Thanks for the detailed information. I had put this question four days ago in the hotels/apartments section and had no reply so far. So I tried my luck here.
[QUOTE=TJ Fannatic]You should post this question in the hotels/apartments section because you will get more replies. This used to be the Rio Copa and was somewaht girlfriendly back then. As long as you registered the girl (1 girl) you were okay. But now that the hotel is owned by Best Western I am not sure. One thing is for sure, they really raised their rates. This place used to be R$100-$120 at one point.
In general Rio hotels are not GF, with some exceptions, of course. But it all depends on how the girl looks, speaks, and acts. It also depends on whether you bring up one girl or try to bring up more than that. I actually stayed here once, registered the girl when I checked in and had no problem.
Just keep in mind that most of these Copa hotels have families and bona fide tourist staying there and do not want to be seen as monering spots.
If you cannot take a girl up do not worry. There are cheap motels nearby to the Copa. There is one a few blocks away. Plus, you can always hit the thermas.
Also, at times taking girls back to your room is worse than not being able to. For most of we do not take random girls back anyway. Some guys have pyscho tests they give before a girl can come back. So in the end stay at the Copa if that suits you and do not stay elsewhere for the purpose of taking girls back.
Once you know some girls and have been to Rio a number of times it is easier.
TJ[/QUOTE]
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Funny Stuff
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This is one of the funniest things I have read in a while. Great report!
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Questner,
Great report indeed. Glad you had a ball in Rio!:)
The taxi you took from GIG to copa for 45 Reais, you took it from the departure area right?
Also, that is also where the bus area is right? I have yet to take the bus from GIG to Copa and may consider it as an alternative. For those who have taken the bus from GIG to Copa, how long is the ride say in early afternoon on a saturday?
2 days to go!!!!Can't wait!!!!!!:)
Thanks.
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Bus Trip
[QUOTE=Sprite13]Questner,
Great report indeed. Glad you had a ball in Rio!:)
The taxi you took from GIG to copa for 45 Reais, you took it from the departure area right?
Also, that is also where the bus area is right? I have yet to take the bus from GIG to Copa and may consider it as an alternative. For those who have taken the bus from GIG to Copa, how long is the ride say in early afternoon on a saturday?
2 days to go!!!!Can't wait!!!!!!:)
Thanks.[/QUOTE]
It takes about an hour.
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Bus
GIG to Copa
1.5hrs
It leaves GIG and heads into Centro via the Linha Vermelha, then stops briefly at Santos Dumant. Then returns to Centro, goes into Gloria before entering Copa. I believe it continues to Ipanema.
Once in Copa, alert the driver where you want to stop: Hotel Name will do, otherwise he won't stop.
$R7 fare. A lot of the delay is the traffic on the Linha Vermelha and in Centro.
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Just what I want to do after a 9-12 hour flight, take a bus for another 1.5 hours to save 40.reais.. Not worth it IMHO.
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Airport Bus - Is it worth it?
[QUOTE=Trippleecks]Just what I want to do after a 9-12 hour flight, take a bus for another 1.5 hours to save 40.reais.. Not worth it IMHO.[/QUOTE]I agree. I always have a driver meet me at the airport for safety and convenience. I took the bus because I had forgotten to pick up a small box at baggage claim. I took a nap, walked up to Av Atlantica and took the 1 hour trip to the airport. Went to baggage claim and picked up my item, then took the 1 hour bus ride back to Copa. It was not that bad.
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Late afternoon, a taxi has to get bogged down in Centro traffic pretty well as much as the Express Bus. Except the bus doesn´t have a meter ;) I´ve tried changing to the Metro which shaves time off at rush hour, but there can be queues for tickets at that time. If I´m not locked in, I´ve often stayed in Alfonsa Pena for one night to save traffic (walking distance to VM haha) then gone down and rented an apartment in peace the next morning.
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Cheap shite in Lala Land
¨For you, special price!¨ I´m sure you´ve heard this phrase. I´m not familiar with the price of a sun lounger on this particular piece of granulated silicon but I´m pretty sure it´s less than the special price. ¨25 Reis!¨my good-natured big mama saleslady exclaims. I give the only fitting response. Whoops of laughter, banging my first on the ice-drinks crate. I look at her companions to see if they also have tears rolling down their face at her wonderful joke. Unbudging, she goes to 20. Then 15. I suggest 8 is fair, but offer 10 to pay for my ignorance. I can wait.
I´ve stopped wearing a watch. In Brasil, in a hurry means desperate. Desperate means expensive. I just stand there with an expansive smile, sharing the bonhomie. Eventually she comes down. She does. [i]And[/i] puts suntan on my frickin back. And doesn´t try to overcharge me again for the whole afternon.
I´m not a beach bunny, but I had arranged to meet for beach with a rather nice beach babe the night before. I was at the shrine. The one where you have a religious experience as you walk in, realise it´s all bullshit, but enjoy it just the same. The Lord heard my call for [b]Help[/b] and responded with a better night than I had expected. Help have opened the backroom. Brasilian music. Shame about the DJ, but it made a change from Madonna. After an hour I decide not to even speak to girls who are not my preferred genotype. Skinny blonde, fair skin, if you please. I can go for the Ivete Sangalo girl-next-door look but, at 38R just to look, it should at least look nice. Full of appropriate effort and feminine niceties. It´s 4am and I´ve narrowed it down to three. One is too stuck up. The second is too shy. The third is just right. Ané. She reminds me of a Paulista girl I used to live with and I wish I´d married. Our bodies blend. We share all the same interests. (Utter BS I suppose, but at least she´s being professionally GF-ish.) She closes with my definite agreement and all the other things we can do together this week. Adding, ¨Four-zero-zero, ok?¨ Well it is and it isn´t. She is so lovely I am ready to pay her any money she asks. The gospel has been delivered and I´m hallelujah with dinheiro. But knowing how stupid I am at such times, I have prepared. I took the precaution earlier of having no more than 250R absolute max garota money up my sleeves. She offers 350 but I think, ¨The sweetheart she reminds me wouldn´t accept a penny. This girl says she likes me but wants 350??¨
Now let´s just say she´s good GFE. That means a regular debit of 400, near enough. Say 300 with discount. That´s to much. I´d want a legal secretary with legs right up to the Supreme Court for that. We swap phone numbers, me remembering this had been my main intention all along. Beach tomorrow. She gets a taxi home, too proud to drop lower - or go after other customers in front of me at least. But my evening´s not over. Where now?
[b]Nog.[/b] Almost home from home. I even get a taxi there instead of waiting for the bus. A couple of familiar faces but one girl gets my attention. I had ignored her the other night. Too jiggy and full of energy. But she kept coming back to me. Masses of flaming hair, reddish gold. Always smiling, genuinely lighting the place up. Plus I´d seen her carrying groceries home that day, so she´s local. I show interest and she almost overwhelms me with heart and enthusiasm. She´s maybe ten years older than a nineteen year old that´s getting angry cos I knocked her back. I use it to advantage. 200? No way. 150? Pleading voice. No, I can wait and I know she´s gonna say yes. 100 it is. Back at the apartment she soon turns BBBJ into possibly the best deep throat I´ve ever had. I look at it disappearing behind her lips like an Indian Rope Trick, convinced it has to come out behind her ears. There´s no pretense. It´s clothes-ripping-off-fuck-me-hard time. After she falls asleep in my arms I wake her up enough for a second kissy-cuddly fuck. Twelve o´clock next day I have to kick her out as I´ve promised to meet Ané. A nagging voice keeps telling me, ´dumb.´
Lusty reddish blonde flamer hustles an extra 20R for ´coca cola on the beach.´ Yeah right, I tell her, is that a private Leblon beach?? But she´s so much fun I don´t deny it. Swap phone nos.
Call Ané. Arrange 1pm outside an Ipanema beach hotel. I phone her just before I leave (late) and she hasn´t left. She uses up my credits trying to close on 400R and offering to forget the beach and just come over. No way. I´m in beach mood now.
On my deluxe 10R beach recliner, I hear the sound of my phone. Ané calling. Which part of the beach am I on? I explain. In great detail. Till her credits run out. I can wait . . .
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another new terma - Formula 99 (2pm to midnight)
New termas are hardly news. But I do like it when someone has the forethought and generosity to open one on my doorstep. Or at least just a few discrete yards away.
This one´s on NS Copa, just a few yards west of Prado Junior. During the day it´s a terma and at night it´s a boite. The O Globo ad says 70R, but it seems there´s a room charge of 60R on top of that. Ok if the girls are reasonable. Just had a look in (just past midnight) and it´s a good size, nice and new and glitzy, like many of the boites in the immediate area. I think they said they have half a dozen suites so presumably you don´t have to take the girls in a bag off the premises and hide them from your hotel reception. Not many girls about just now. Same owners as Quitanda downtown he says. But the girls ´can´t be bothered turning up when it´s sunny and it´s carnaval.´ Only a couple of so-so´s on the shelf when popped my head in.
The address is NS Copa 99A. Tel 8807-2800. The boite or ´American Bar´is open 8pm to 5am, ´striptease,´ blahblah. Whereas the terma is daytime. Nice that the girls do get a few hours nap ;)
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[QUOTE=Christopherd]On my deluxe 10R beach recliner, I hear the sound of my phone. Ané calling. Which part of the beach am I on? I explain. In great detail. Till her credits run out. I can wait . . .[/QUOTE]Classic!! LOL
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further to forest´s excellent post ([url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=844910&postcount=8007[/url]) on the 9am knock shop, i just had to try, especially as there were several places i nneded to go to in that area.
the actual address is ns copa 500, 4th floor, room 407. 60r for half an hour. (inclusive - no fees for room or ´entrance.´) in other words, it´s not far from siqueira campos, almost opposite miami peep.
i went just after ten a.m. about five girls on - the best was maybe a 7 would you say forest? quite nice anyway, and one or two do-ables. there were all introduced in teh old fashioned style - through to the room then each girl sent in one at a time to introduce herself before making a selection. i went for jacquelini, with long curly black hair, the girl who was acting as receptionist, mostly cos of her lovely warm smile.
rooms were not bad at the price. freshly laundered and sealed towel pack (showered afterwards - cold, unless i failed to find the right combination of adjustments among the typically brasilian mix of insulating tape and blutac that passes for bathroom electrics). reasonable double bed, a/c that was pleasant rather than like a fridge.
bbbj and tit-fuck, lots of kissing all the way through, bit of daty, exceedingly warm and affectionate. frigged herself to come while we shagged.
one of the nice things is the location. there´s now quite a good selection of hoor houses around siq.campos and at all prices (short of 1r a minute haha). given copa´s standard overpricing, i thought this was quite reasonable value and would return, especially as it fills a gap by being open at 9am.
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Ugly American
Sitting in bar Alexandra (Ave. Prado Jr.) last night, I observed the typical ugy Americano, a fat, loud, balding rube, dumbshit from Hamtramck, (Detroit) Michigan. This guy was the epitome of the type that often piques Christopherd. He was trying to impress a not-so-attractive garota and talking loud enough I could hear him across the room over the blaring music. He mentioned that he had lots of Marijuana that he brought with him in his suitcase. He noticed my disapproving stare and asked if I spoke "American." I replied I could understand the language because it is similar to English. I suggested it would be in his best interest not to openly discuss drugs lest he attract unwanted attention. He replied, "well, everyone smokes it," Then politely thanked me for my advice. The garota was not impressed and soon left the bar.
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[QUOTE=Poucolouco]Sitting in bar Alexandra (Ave. Prado Jr.) last night, I observed the typical ugy Americano, a fat, loud, balding rube, dumbshit from Hamtramck, (Detroit) Michigan. This guy was the epitome of the type that often piques Christopherd. He was trying to impress a not-so-attractive garota and talking loud enough I could hear him across the room over the blaring music. He mentioned that he had lots of Marijuana that he brought with him in his suitcase. He noticed my disapproving stare and asked if I spoke "American." I replied I could understand the language because it is similar to English. I suggested it would be in his best interest not to openly discuss drugs lest he attract unwanted attention. He replied, "well, everyone smokes it," Then politely thanked me for my advice. The garota was not impressed and soon left the bar.[/QUOTE]
You're a better man than me. While I don't come across this behavior often, I probably would've left when the girl left. The guy sounds like a total idiot. That's why I travel alone, and avoid places where "certain" tourists might venture.
ryjer
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They should learn some Portuguese
[QUOTE=Poucolouco]Sitting in bar Alexandra (Ave. Prado Jr.) last night, I observed the typical ugy Americano, a fat, loud, balding rube, dumbshit from Hamtramck, (Detroit) Michigan. This guy was the epitome of the type that often piques Christopherd. He was trying to impress a not-so-attractive garota and talking loud enough I could hear him across the room over the blaring music. He mentioned that he had lots of Marijuana that he brought with him in his suitcase. He noticed my disapproving stare and asked if I spoke "American." I replied I could understand the language because it is similar to English. I suggested it would be in his best interest not to openly discuss drugs lest he attract unwanted attention. He replied, "well, everyone smokes it," Then politely thanked me for my advice. The garota was not impressed and soon left the bar.[/QUOTE]
Recently I was in a bar in Leblon, half the people were on the street drinking, I asked the waiter for a drink, he said to me are you French? I said I'm American, he said bem portuguese para o americano. Could you imagine of all the nationalities an American being mistaken for a Frances?
All the girls I meet in Help during introductions they always ask, where are you from? I tell them to guess, usually first comes Italian, then French, Then sometimes Espanhol, then sometimes German but never American. When I tell them I'm American some say you're a Carioca? Because bem Portuguese.
Even the Americans don't think I'm American, in restaurants I have sat down next to tables of Americans and spoke to the waiter in Portuguese. They keep on talking away loud and free, I have heard some good stories that they probably didn't think I understood. On occasion after I was finished I stopped by and commented to them about their stories and can see their embarrassed faces.
So not every American is so obvious to be an American, some of us they would never guess.
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40 Graus
Has anyone tried 40 Graus?
On a previous trip, whenever I called, I could not get thru.
Anyone know what going on with them?
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Not ready for Prime Time
[QUOTE=Christopherd]New termas are hardly news. But I do like it when someone has the forethought and generosity to open one on my doorstep. Or at least just a few discrete yards away.
This one´s on NS Copa, just a few yards west of Prado Junior. During the day it´s a terma and at night it´s a boite. The O Globo ad says 70R, but it seems there´s a room charge of 60R on top of that. Ok if the girls are reasonable. Just had a look in (just past midnight) and it´s a good size, nice and new and glitzy, like many of the boites in the immediate area. I think they said they have half a dozen suites so presumably you don´t have to take the girls in a bag off the premises and hide them from your hotel reception. Not many girls about just now. Same owners as Quitanda downtown he says. But the girls ´can´t be bothered turning up when it´s sunny and it´s carnaval.´ Only a couple of so-so´s on the shelf when popped my head in.
The address is NS Copa 99A. Tel 8807-2800. The boite or ´American Bar´is open 8pm to 5am, ´striptease,´ blahblah. Whereas the terma is daytime. Nice that the girls do get a few hours nap ;)[/QUOTE]
Made a stop by at 7:00 PM and they were not open. Knocked on the door and the guy said come back at 8:00 PM. Came back at 8:15 and got the tour. Nice bar area and decent rooms. No girls so I left. The paper they gave me said they have been open since Feb 5. Seems they are still working out some of the kinks. Hope to be able to give a report when they actually open.
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Good Stuff!
[QUOTE=Sangue Bon]Recently I was in a bar in Leblon, half the people were on the street drinking, I asked the waiter for a drink, he said to me are you French? I said I'm American, he said bem portuguese para o americano. Could you imagine of all the nationalities an American being mistaken for a Frances?
All the girls I meet in Help during introductions they always ask, where are you from? I tell them to guess, usually first comes Italian, then French, Then sometimes Espanhol, then sometimes German but never American. When I tell them I'm American some say you're a Carioca? Because bem Portuguese.
Even the Americans don't think I'm American, in restaurants I have sat down next to tables of Americans and spoke to the waiter in Portuguese. They keep on talking away loud and free, I have heard some good stories that they probably didn't think I understood. On occasion after I was finished I stopped by and commented to them about their stories and can see their embarrassed faces.
So not every American is so obvious to be an American, some of us they would never guess.[/QUOTE]
I can totally relate....I enjoy these situations greatly. I speak just basic Port. and I definitely look like a brasilero. At a cafe, bar, club, termas, or beach.......I love to throw in a few comments after overhearing other tourists chat about their experiences or complaints. The expressions on their faces are amusing to me.
Just another little benefit of making the effort to learn the native language.
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Rio or Sao Paolo
Hi guys,
I am new at this area. So I am planing trip to Brazil so which city is better? Less expensive etc.
Thanks
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Brazilian Economics in Practice - L'uomo
Was at L'uomo last night and the girls were complaining about the lack of customers. So in typical Brazilian fashion, fewer customers means raise the prices and that is what they have done.
Entrance is R$60 with no discount for taking a girl (was R$10)
40 minutes now is $210 - was $200
60 minutes now is $300 - was $280
30 minute massage is now R$70 - was R$50
Drinks have gone up too. R$14 drinks are now R$15 and Martinis which were R$6 are now R$10.
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[QUOTE=Exec Talent]Was at L'uomo last night and the girls were complaining about the lack of customers. So in typical Brazilian fashion, fewer customers means raise the prices and that is what they have done.
Entrance is R$60 with no discount for taking a girl (was R$10)
40 minutes now is $210 - was $200
60 minutes now is $300 - was $280
30 minute massage is now R$70 - was R$50
Drinks have gone up too. R$14 drinks are now R$15 and Martinis which were R$6 are now R$10.[/QUOTE]This really sucks. Exec, have you been by 4x4?
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Luomos management is merda!
[QUOTE=Exec Talent]Was at L'uomo last night and the girls were complaining about the lack of customers. So in typical Brazilian fashion, fewer customers means raise the prices and that is what they have done.
Entrance is R$60 with no discount for taking a girl (was R$10)
40 minutes now is $210 - was $200
60 minutes now is $300 - was $280
30 minute massage is now R$70 - was R$50
Drinks have gone up too. R$14 drinks are now R$15 and Martinis which were R$6 are now R$10.[/QUOTE]
Sad, but true. I broke the ice in Luomos a few years ago when first arriving in Brazil. I had the time of my life, and it was just a blast at Luomos. Then, a couple of years ago, I had a bad experience in which a couple of my newbie friends from my hometown were getting ripped off big time......simply because they were rookies and did not know a word of portuguese. I had an argument with a bartender as well as that ***** lady they call a manager who deals with the garotas as well.
This place has been going down the tubes ever since. As far as I am concerned, they can go out buss. I have not visited that establishment in about 2 years.
Hopefully they are just raising rates for this busy tourist traffic in town for these few weeks, and then lower them. But that is just wishful thinking on my part.
I just don't get it. For example, the economy is rough in the states, so what do I see in yesterdays morning paper.....Fridays rest. chain is offering a buy one, get one free meal with a coupon you must print online. Well, thats creative, and also getting customers in. On the other hand, what do these fucks at Luomos do, they try to make up for slow business by.....oh yea, lets jack up the prices! What asswipes!
Just to be fair, by far, Luomos is not the only business in Brazil to have this mentality. Let's see what happens in May, June, and July when its low season and a rough economy is in progress as well.
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Chris; What does NOG stand for?
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Lack of customer ?
[QUOTE=Exec Talent]Was at L'uomo last night and the girls were complaining about the lack of customers....[/QUOTE]
Any reasons why in Carnival time, lack of customers, when I thought they had to be much more busy ?
It is a lack of cumstomers only at luomo or in every termas ?
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Brasileiro - to be or not to be
I´ve been here in Rio for about a week now, I´ll be parading with Beija-Flor tomorrow(sunday) at sambodromo. I speak portuguese and dance samba as well. I´ve been so busy with regular beautiful non-pros I haven´t had too much time for mongering.
I´m american and I too am tired of hearing this same old BS. There are alot of toursits (European and American)here who beleive that because they know many locations to go mongering feel themselves to be psuedo-brasileiros because they have been coming here for quite some time and feel at home.
I´m happy for them that they feel at home, however there is quite a difference here in Rio between estranjeiros(foreigners) being tolerated and being accepted as a brasileiro.
If after many trips you still cannot carry on a fluid conversation in portuguese and you can´t really dance Samba no Pe ,you are being tolerated.
I get referred to as a brasileiro everyday without fail and to me it is one of the highest compliment I can think of.
All this ethnocentric one-upman-ship talk is just idle chatter without the aforementioned capabilities...
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[QUOTE=Exec Talent]Was at L'uomo last night and the girls were complaining about the lack of customers. So in typical Brazilian fashion, fewer customers means raise the prices and that is what they have done.
Entrance is R$60 with no discount for taking a girl (was R$10)
40 minutes now is $210 - was $200
60 minutes now is $300 - was $280
30 minute massage is now R$70 - was R$50
Drinks have gone up too. R$14 drinks are now R$15 and Martinis which were R$6 are now R$10.[/QUOTE]I don't rate zone zul termas anyway. I prefer centro ones. I only go to lumo or monte carlo if it is raining.
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Brazilian business model
[QUOTE=Mangera]what do these fucks at Luomos do, they try to make up for slow business by.....oh yea, lets jack up the prices! What asswipes!
Just to be fair, by far, Luomos is not the only business in Brazil to have this mentality.[/QUOTE]Some posters have referred to this as the Brazilian business model. I think the businesses only screw themselves in the long run.
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[QUOTE=Jazzy Daddy]I've been here in Rio for about a week now, I'll be parading with Beija-Flor tomorrow (Sunday) at sambodromo. I speak portuguese and dance samba as well. I've been so busy with regular beautiful non-pros I haven't had too much time for mongering.
I'm american and I too am tired of hearing this same old BS. There are alot of toursits (European and American)here who beleive that because they know many locations to go mongering feel themselves to be psuedo-brasileiros because they have been coming here for quite some time and feel at home.
I'm happy for them that they feel at home, however there is quite a difference here in Rio between estranjeiros (foreigners) being tolerated and being accepted as a brasileiro.
If after many trips you still cannot carry on a fluid conversation in portuguese and you can't really dance Samba no Pe, you are being tolerated.
I get referred to as a brasileiro everyday without fail and to me it is one of the highest compliment I can think of.
All this ethnocentric one-upman-ship talk is just idle chatter without the aforementioned capabilities.[/QUOTE]By all respect and no offense. What is the point with this? As I see it don't bother about this people, I can aggre with you that some behave quit bad. And another thing what is that makes its so "cool" being taken for a "brasileiro" many here talk about it like it was something very special. Why not just be yourself and act as you do home, I mean to be friendly and polite works in all country and I have spent some years in different countrys, from China to Brasil and those between.
I have lived/worked here in Rio for 5 month until now and I have a couple of friends here that are brasilians and even dated a girl for a while (non pro). All this by just being my self, can you imagen.
So as I see it its nothing bad by just come here for relaxing, party and do some girls, and be polite to people.
Bon Carneval
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[QUOTE=Yaylalar]Hi guys,
I am new at this area. So I am planing trip to Brazil so which city is better? Less expensive etc.
Thanks[/QUOTE]Rio, by about 30%.
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Monte Carlo
[QUOTE=Lukasek]Any reasons why in Carnival time, lack of customers, when I thought they had to be much more busy ?
It is a lack of cumstomers only at luomo or in every termas ?[/QUOTE]
I was in Monte Carlo tonight to see a favorite of mine and some of the L'uomo girls are now working there. As I was leaving I spied a super hot blond and just had time to say hello. I am thinking of returning a little later tonight just to check her out (she was that hot). They were starting to get busy as I was leaving but still nothing like in years past.
I think there will be a little increase in business after Carnaval when air fares and lodging go down in price, but after that, I think Rio is going to be hurting. The tourists I am seeing are mostly from other SA countries. I talked with a girl today who just got in from Lima and she said her fare was only $250.
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Can someone in Rio post going rates on the main 4 termas. Room/girl and entrance fee. 4x4, centsuckass (which I don't go), solarium, and montecralo. No need to break it down. Just total up the 3 costs.
Thanks
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Where the girls (and guys) are
They are at Help. Last night in front of Help was packed with as many (or more) guys than girls. Outside of Help it seemed most guys were just hanging. Girls did not seem to be asking outrageous prices. I was quoted R$150 - R250 without any bargaining. In the termas, I have encountered a lot of first timers and at MC there must have been 10 guys who were brought in by a street tout for a tour.
In front of Help (I did not go inside) there were a lot of guys who visit Rio often. A few termas girls showed up, decided not to pay the R$60 entrance, and left. Unfortunately, I saw very few girls with fantasy outfits entering.
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L'uomo girls at Monte Carlo
[QUOTE=Exec Talent]I was in Monte Carlo tonight to see a favorite of mine and some of the L'uomo girls are now working there.[/QUOTE]That is good to knkow. Anyone you can name? It would be nice if I could see some old favorites there.
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[QUOTE=Bravo]Chris; What does NOG stand for?[/QUOTE]
My best guess would be that "NOG" stands for "Nogeira"(?), a restaurant across the street from Barbarella.
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Juliana
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Here is HELP Juliana I first meet her back in July 2004 at MP I recall at the time she said she didn't like HELP now she is a fixture but didn't anyone else know she was almost famous?
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I remember juliana. She has been in help a long time. She is the one that stands there like a lump and never really says anything. Not much of a personality. I never took her. I always thought she had nice tits,but thats all. btw, isnt it gay to have your dick touch another guy's dick in a movie or otherwise?
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Here is HELP Juliana I first meet her back in July 2004 at MP I recall at the time she said she didn't like HELP now she is a fixture but didn't anyone else know she was almost famous?[/QUOTE]That's an old vid. I use to see her often. Have not seen here my last few trips.
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[QUOTE=Chingon]That's an old vid. I use to see her often. Have not seen here my last few trips.[/QUOTE]I just saw her last week, that video was also about 30 lbs ago. She hangs out with a cute girl who is half Japanese, half Brazilian, I passed on them both.
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[QUOTE=Exec Talent]Was at L'uomo last night and the girls were complaining about the lack of customers. So in typical Brazilian fashion, fewer customers means raise the prices and that is what they have done.
Entrance is R$60 with no discount for taking a girl (was R$10)
40 minutes now is $210 - was $200
60 minutes now is $300 - was $280
30 minute massage is now R$70 - was R$50
Drinks have gone up too. R$14 drinks are now R$15 and Martinis which were R$6 are now R$10.[/QUOTE]
Not to get nitpicky but this is likely not raising prices due to less customers, it's more likely due to inflation (exists in Brazil, we will get ours in the States, don't worry). Brasil "claims" inflation is hovering around 5% but that's likely understated. If something costs 200, it's going to cost 210 sooner or later.
That being said, I wouldn't put it past them to do something so ridiculous as to raise prices because of less customers, but after a bit one place wouldn't raise prices and the market would set the price etc...
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Monte carlo is about the same price as Luomos. It cost 270 for a 40 min program. If you are going to go there often sign up to be a member ( just ask the receptionist). After spending 500R ( which is two visits) they waive the entrance fee (60r). Solarium went up and I would rank the most expensive after Centaurus, especially if you opt to pay by credit card. The price for a 40 min program jumps from $285r to $310r just for using a credit card. I dont recall the hour program price but I remember seeing 400R somewhere in there, almost better off going to centaurus since you wont have to pay the higher cab fare.So I would advise you bring enough reais to pay for your visit. They also have the member program like MC but it you need to spend $700r ( correct me if Im wrong on that amount).
4x4 is 180r again for the 40 min program ( I try not to do the hour program often, so I dont pay attention to the price) if you program before 5PM. Other than that it is now 220R which includes the 40r entrada. The prices that I posted are as of this week, not sure when they became effective. Damn the main (gringo) mongering scene in Rio is getting expensive.
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Excelsior Hotel- the trick to get a girl in
[QUOTE=Forest]The problem is that the average working girl looks like the average working girl. Its hard to grab her hand and enter the hotel as if she is one's namorada.
That being said, after 3 hours in L'Uomo last night (2 GORGEOUS girls! I needed two hard pounding 1 hour sessions thanks to the deterrent effects of alcohol), I wasn't in great need for company. However, I will try to bring a girl up today just to take up the challenge. I have a plan, and if it works, I will let you know the trick.[/QUOTE]
First, I do not recommend this hotel. Yes, it is comfortable, the service is excellent and the location cannot be beat. That being said, there are many hotels on the beach in Rio with great service and beautiful rooms in this price range. They were a total pain in the ass about letting you bring in girls.
However, with a little planning, anything is possible. When you check in, the reception gives you a card with your name on it that you use to charge food and other items to your account. I checked in with a friend, who left me two days later. We both got one of these cards. When I wanted to bring in another woman, I simply gave her my first friend's card and then conspicuously had her use it at the bar in the lobby to purchase an expresso. We then walked to the elevator together and were not questioned.
This is obviously too much to go through to get a girl into the hotel. But, if necessary, this works. I doubt the card would get a girl from Help into your room at 3 am, but it works well at 10:30 am.
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Here is HELP Juliana I first meet her back in July 2004 at MP I recall at the time she said she didn't like HELP now she is a fixture but didn't anyone else know she was almost famous?[/QUOTE]Nearly everytime I have been in help, she has been there. Always with one or 2 other garotas. She is quite short. Maybe 5 feet 2 or 3. Quite fat now.
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All that glitters ...
glitters forever. Picked up a girl outside of Help the other night (R$150 - asking price, no negotiation needed) and she was covered in glitter. I have taken three showers and still cannot get rid of all of it. Glitter must have a half-life of something like 2000 years.
Help prices:
I was outside of Help again last night and one especially cute girl sat down and told me it would be R$300. When I told her that was very expensive she immediately lowered it to R$200. There were a lot of guys and just as many girls, but I didn't see a lot of the two getting together.
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Overnight Stay?
[QUOTE=Exec Talent]glitters forever. Picked up a girl outside of Help the other night (R$150 - asking price, no negotiation needed) and she was covered in glitter. I have taken three showers and still cannot get rid of all of it. Glitter must have a half-life of something like 2000 years.
Help prices:
I was outside of Help again last night and one especially cute girl sat down and told me it would be R$300. When I told her that was very expensive she immediately lowered it to R$200. There were a lot of guys and just as many girls, but I didn't see a lot of the two getting together.[/QUOTE]Hi I am planning on going Mid March... Now do these girls stay overnight for 150-300Real price range?
Also which hotel are you staying at?? Are they girl friendly hotel?
Thanks a bunch!
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Need to find cool dance club! (Not Help)
Hi,
I'll be in town in 2 weeks and I'm looking for recommendations for a Big Dance club with Non-Pros the opposite of (Help) to take my friends from NYC who are not into mongering. Location near Copa/Ipanema would be ideal. Nice atmosphere bottle service etc. Any ideas?
Thanks
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Part-Timers and Amateurs
Hello all,
I am a new member to the site and must say that I have been quite impressed with both the quantity and quality of information posted. In an attempt to cease, or at least momentarily halt, some of the trans-Atlantic bickering I was wondering if any Rio veterans could give me some info about good locations to pick up part-time girls/amateurs in Rio?
I'm assuming that at Help after a brief conversation you could easily discern who is a "pro" and who is not, but I wanted to know if there were any other local places that has that type of selection. A buddy of mine mentioned this was possible just lounging around on Copacabana beach but I'm not quite sure.
The reason for this is that I find that alot of times the girls who are new or just do this on the side a couple times a year tend to be a bit more personable and sensual as opposed to those veterans just working the system.
Thanks in advance for the advice and glad to be a part of this forum!
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I like to consider myself a savvy traveler, one who knows how to keep a low profile, and doesn't make an ass of himself, but I'm sure there's been at least one or two times I've come across as the stereotypical loud, boorish, "arrogant" American. It's easy when you're with friends and chatting and drinking up, you start to laugh and say stupid shit loudly. My group caught ourselves doing this once in a nice churrasqueria in Copa; and one time with friends in Venice, some Italians nearby shushed us, but we were really getting silly and out of control in a very nice restaurant; I can't remember now what we were laughing so hysterically about but it really was hilarious and it was a great time, I swear! :)
So yes, even well intentioned tourists can end up playing the "ugly American"
The whole point of traveling I think is to gain insight, not just into the other peoples of the world but into yourself. Well, at least some people do. ;)
And guys, let's be honest with ourselves. We're mongers. Whether we consider it hypocritical bs or not, most of humanity considers us the scum of the earth, even WORSE than the putas! Why a monger would want to act in a way that attracts even more attention to his activities is beyond me; but considering the present financial meltdown, it does seem we live in a world with plenty of bozos that are oblivious to killing the geese that lay the golden eggs. . .
My point is, as I grow older, I'm beginning to realize I'm not necessarily the genius that I thought I was, and that most foreigners probably aren't all that impressed with my open-mindedness or magnanimity to "people who don't happen to be from the U.S." I figure in Rio at least 50% of cariocas will think I'm sex-tourist scum, but I don't worry about changing that perception anymore. I just stay low-key and polite and try to fend off the petty little scams as best as I can in a relaxed manner, with a knowing smile on my face. . . no shouting or hissy fits as I've seen some tourists do.
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Pinkerton's South American Mongerlogue : Day 5
Day 5: Last day at Termas L'uomo
Three visits in five days, so I suppose it was not a surprise that the receptionist greeted me by name.
4 pm and I'm the only guy in the bar with 15 girls. It helped that I was soon joined by my terma-going companion. I promised in an earlier report to identify him and for those of you who haven't had the pleasure of his company at the termas I can tell you that Ken is just a great guy – in termas, and anywhere else. Ken works with Don at Amerioca Tours. When I first contacted Don about an apartment, his reply not only offered me an apartment handily placed close to his office but also the services of a guide to the termas. I wasn't sure just what these services would consist of until I arrived. Ken would, I then found out, not just deliver me to the termas but he would go in and give me some company there – a kind of introductory tour of both his favourite termas, L'uomo and 4x4.
So on Day 1 when we went to L'uomo, Ken showed me round the small premises. This took some time because he had to be greeted by most of the ladies there - starting with the receptionist and the locker-room lady, and then most of the girls. Was I envious? You bet I was. Here is a guy with the best job in the world and he's the most modest man and fantastic company.
I'm not going into detail about the hours Ken & I spent together during my Rio time, but I've had the pleasure of his company for all but one of my five days. I would like to think that we've become friends during that time. Ken is an all-round great guy.
So ... back to Day 5. Ken & I established in our usual place at the bar, and enjoying a drink. There were a few punters arriving but we were still outnumbered about 3:1 by girls. I'd told myself that I would take my time. Unlike 4x4, there's no financial inducement at L'uomo to have a girl before 5, so I gave myself a target of holding out until 6pm. Would I be able to? Unfortunately, a lovely bronze babe came over to greet Ken and was good enough to say Hi to me. She & I spent the next hour or so in a form of foreplay. 'J' would go and dance, then come over and dance against me as I sat on my barstool, or come over for a kiss. Then we moved to her settling her bunda in my lap and eventually to her hand going down to 'encourage' my dick, wanking me as I cuddled her and looked around the room. A lovely treat.
It's part of the charm of L'uomo that, although you only get 40 minutes in the room, if you're lucky you can spend time with your gorgeous girl in the bar, with her attentive only to you. In J's case I enjoyed 90 minutes of that pleasure.
Off to the cabine. Probably the best hands-free blowjob I've had all week, with an ability to get me rock solid in no time at all. I was feeling really lazy and spent the whole 40 minutes on my back. A good 69 with J getting really worked up as I probed her bum and attended to her quite prominent clit. Then she climbed on top for a wonderful session of reverse cowgirl and then cowgirl, first in her pussy with her coming, and then in her arse. I was lasting rather better than usual, although having to work hard to hold back. So, with time running out, I chose to come on her tiny boobs. Tiny, but so pliable.
All the pent-up sexuality of the previous two hours resulted in a great orgasm. She expressed surprise at the amount; I was quite impressed myself.
Thanks, J – and for stretching the time to give my back a much-needed massage afterwards.
Then back to the bar to rejoin Ken, busy with one of his bevvy of beauties. Lots more laughs and drinks for a couple of hours, with some temptations but nothing that made me desperate for another pop.
So ended my five days in Rio. If I bought a t-shirt it would probably be inscribed : “ I went to Rio and all I saw was L'uomo & 4x4”. But what a treat it was.
How can I sum it up for those not fortunate enough to have visited the termas yet?
The first thing is the sheer class of the girls – most are in that category where if you passed them in the street you would turn and have another look.
So you meet these classy girls, in a bar, they dance in front of you, against you if you're lucky and they're bright, intelligent, with good chat and a sense of humour. Many of them doing so in very passable English. So even in the bar it's a treat.
Then you invite them to a cabine and this classy girl suddenly enjoys every dirty thing you ever wanted. We guys often talk about GFE – girl friend experience. This is GFE Supreme. There are few guys in the world who have girlfriends this pretty. And even fewer who have girlfriends this dirty.
Let me give you a small example of the 'down and dirty' side of these classy women. I won't say which one of my ladies, but I was going through my menu with one of them and she'd said 'yes' to everything I mentioned. After a pause I thought I'd ask her if she rimmed. I wasn't sure but I recalled that in either Spanish or Portuguese it was something like ' beijos negros' (literally, black kisses). She looked a bit blank – just playing with me – and then came back with (in Portuguese) 'Oh, you mean beijos chocolados'.
Of course, there are bound to be some failures – despite their looks.
But compared to escorts, you can see and squeeze them; you can experience how passionately they kiss; you can check your wants list with them. Above all, you can interpret attitude – whether it's all put on, or a glint of something genuine there. I know it's for money but there are things we all do for money in our jobs – some we enjoy, some we don't. The girls are clearly the same.
I still think the biggest test is the smile. If there's a genuine smile you've got a good chance.
My journey takes me to Argentina next and I've got to expect it to be a let-down after this. I'll post on Argentina Private if anybody wants to follow the Mongerlogue further.
Two things raised by those reading my reports:
For better or worse I decided to go into considerable detail about activities in the cabine. That's when I took names out of my reports. As I'm planning to go back to Rio in a few weeks' time and hoping to see some of these girls again, I would rather not give names until then. When I leave Rio for the UK, I'll put them all on here so that they get the praise they deserve and any readers get pointed in the right direction. Hope that's an answer to queries.
Then how this compares to Thailand? That's a difficult one. The termas are clearly the top end of Rio. One of the differences is that the top end of Thailand has classy girls but they begin to see themselves as models, whereas we want them for their bedroom qualities. I'm in the 'active senior' stage, and there were a couple of times in Thailand when a very lovely go-go dancer gave me an inflated price for her services just to fend me off – and if I'd paid it she would probably not have done many of the things I enjoy. The termas girls are prettier and do a great job in the cabine.
On the other hand, the thing I've missed compared to Thailand is the overnights. It's very easy and cheap there – no more than £40 / £50 - to have a lovely girl to cuddle through the night and wake up with in the late morning for more of the same. That's less than I've been paying for 40 minutes in L'uomo.
So they both have their different attractions and both will tempt me back again.
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[QUOTE=Exec Talent]glitters forever. Picked up a girl outside of Help the other night (R$150 - asking price, no negotiation needed) and she was covered in glitter. I have taken three showers and still cannot get rid of all of it. Glitter must have a half-life of something like 2000 years.
Help prices:
I was outside of Help again last night and one especially cute girl sat down and told me it would be R$300. When I told her that was very expensive she immediately lowered it to R$200. There were a lot of guys and just as many girls, but I didn't see a lot of the two getting together.[/QUOTE]LOL! I had the exact same experience. I hugged a girl who was in full carnival gear, took three days and about 5 showers to finally get all the glitter off!
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[blue]Gentlemen,
The purpose of this Forum is to provide for the exchange of information between Men on the subject of finding Women for Sex.
Let's get back to the subject.
Thank You,
Jackson[/blue]
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Overnight
[QUOTE=Pinkerton]....On the other hand, the thing I've missed compared to Thailand is the overnights.....[/QUOTE]I am as you, I like so much overnight as to wake up early morning and have second session with no hurry at all and another one about noon, but the only two overnight I had with both girls from Help and when they woke up, they fast dressed and went away.
Maybe better to try with termas girl in her day off?
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From Absurd to Ridiculous - L'uomo drink prices
I stopped by L'uomo to have a drink after having a great session with the MC blond I mentioned in a previous post (Adelli is her name). In years past they put out a great spread for Carnaval. That was not the case this year. However, the shocker came when I got my bill. An imported Capivodka is now R$25. I couldn't believe it so I asked to see the price list. There are now many drinks on there R$25 and R$30.
You guys may want to check prices before you put down two or three drinks. I feel sorry for the receptionists who I am sure are going to be getting in some discussion with guys questioning charges.
As for the food, I no longer plan on eating there. Lately, it has consisted mostly of chicken legs, rice and beans. It is not the cook's fault, who is excellent, but the budget she is forced to work within.
There are a lot of tourists who do not know any better in town for Carnaval this week. I wonder what they think is going to happen when guys who have been around show up next month.
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Free time
Finally had some free time to wonder around a bit. The 2 regular girls I`ve been seeing spent the Sun and Mon with families.
I paraded Sun with Beija-Flor at Sambadodromo and it was incredible but very intense. We were second to last to head down the runway, I arrived with my costume in hand as I me and Christerph., a great friend from the forum who also was parading, had tickets for sector 5 to watch before and after we paraded. More on this later.
Yesterday(Monday) I decided to head over to Rua Carioca and check out the Strip Club located on Rua Carioca and Silva Jardim. I paid the R8 and went in the theater as the strip show was full-on. Found a seat and watched about 4 semi-decent garotas strip off their clothes to nothing and then parade around on stage and down the isle. Nothing special here. Soon the strip show ended and the lights went off completely while a porn show played on the screen on stage.
I was hoping the strippers would come down the isles and offer blowjobs, but I ran out of there when actually GUYS were coming down the isles offering blowjobs. Not my cup of tea...
Headed up to silva Jardim and took a right and saw some girls hanging out at the Paris Hotel on the otherside of the park. took the better looking of the bunch at R25 for her and R15 for the room for an hour. Great BBBJ where she held just the head of my dick in her mouth and and licked and sucked it like a lollypop. I came and she swallowed every last drop...
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Last Night (Monday)
Decided to check out help, as it has been 4 years since I´d been there last. Pulled up around 12:30pm and the outside tables were full of guys and garotas. I took a walk around to see if there was any talent but only saw a handfull of decent lookers.
I talked myself into coughing up the R60 and walked up the stairs. It was still early and not too many GDP´s had arrived yet. I bought script for a couple of cervejas and wandered aound. By 1:30 the place was starting to fill up but I really didn´t see too much that excited me and the few that did interest me, had worked quite fast attaching themselves to a host. I suddenly remembered why I hadn´t returned in 4 years. These girls circle their prey like sophisticated predators and if one isn´t paying keen attention, before you konw it´s too late and another one hits the dust. Quite fun watching them weave their magic spells.
Anyway, had enough and exited, grabbed a cab outside and had him take me to Prado Jr. He dropped me off in front of Franks Bar and the door man quickly offered me and entrance for R25, I declined and walked a couple doors down to Noguiera but it was closed. It was pitch black inside but a couple of people were sitting at a table, it was too dark to see anything else inside.
Continued down the street and checked the corner across from Barbarellas, saw a couple of sw´s. Headed back up to the little restaurant between Nog. and Frank´s and ordred some food and a beer. I finished my food and beer and headed back down to the corner across from Barb´s.
Still not much street action so I just hung out patiently waiting. I spoke to one sw who looked halfway decent but I was still waiting for something a little more special.
My patience paid off, 2 hotties showed up. The morena, the better looking of the two with a smokin body, beckoned me over and I countered for her to come to me she obliged and sauntered over. We chatted a bit in portuguese exchanged the compulsory cheek kiss and started the negotiations.
I gor her down to R25, she wanted to go in a taxi for a bbbj but I was in a dangerous mood and we went looking for a dark doorway for some public sex.
We walked a bit, all the time talking and laughing about our search. then suddenly I saw the perfect semi-lit street with alot of trees and shadows. We walked up to a building that looked like a good spot and soon she was kneeling in front of me with my dick in her mouth as she gazed up at as if to make sure I was enjoying myself.
Turns out that we were next to some hotel-residence and people were coming out only a few feet from us draggiing suitcases. We only had to stop once when some revelers walked a little too close, but most of the time I was deep throating her my hands on both sides of her head and getting in some great face fucking. Man this was an intense experince and she was really into it. All good things have to come to an end and after 20 minutes of some of the most fantastic head I´ve had, I soon suffered a violent eruption deep in her throat. I gave her a R5 tip and she said to come back tonight for some anal, only in a hotel...
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"Girl Friends"
Hi,
Hope you all enjoy the carneval! So to my point here how is it here in Rio with "hire" a girlfriend.
For example when I was working in Shanghai there it was very common you meet a bar-girl and if you liked here you could just start to "date" her by giving some small money now and then, buy food etc and she was often living at you and it was ALOT cheaper than if you should pay per night everytime.
I have only visit Termas so haven't found out how it works in Balcony for example.
Is this something that are common/exist here in Rio also. The point with this kind of girlfriend is that you don't need any commitment just sex and some personal guide. I'm not interrested in some real girlfriend beacuse that will only give trouble the day I leave.
Any that have some info/advise
Thanks in advance
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Non P4P Dance Clubs
It's been more than a year since I've been to these clubs but one is Baronete in Ipanema. Very young crowd and very crowded. Some really like it, but I hated it. I did enjoy Kabaret Kaleza in Praca Ma'ua (sp? ). Kind of a rough area but had a really good time there. I wouldn't go alone and had a garota with me which makes it a different experience.
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[blue]Gentlemen,
The purpose of this Forum is to provide for the exchange of information between Men on the subject of finding Women for Sex.
Let's get back to the subject.
Thank You,
Jackson[/blue]
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[QUOTE=Gavazzi]Hi,
Hope you all enjoy the carneval! So to my point here how is it here in Rio with "hire" a girlfriend.
For example when I was working in Shanghai there it was very common you meet a bar-girl and if you liked here you could just start to "date" her by giving some small money now and then, buy food etc and she was often living at you and it was ALOT cheaper than if you should pay per night everytime.
I have only visit Termas so haven't found out how it works in Balcony for example.
Is this something that are common/exist here in Rio also. The point with this kind of girlfriend is that you don't need any commitment just sex and some personal guide. I'm not interrested in some real girlfriend beacuse that will only give trouble the day I leave.
Any that have some info/advise
Thanks in advance[/QUOTE]A few years ago, this may have been possible, but not now. It's all about money to these girls, yes you may get free sex off a gdp, but she'll want something out off it etc. And you'll still pay the first few days.
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[QUOTE=Lukasek]I am as you, I like so much overnight as to wake up early morning and have second session with no hurry at all and another one about noon, but the only two overnight I had with both girls from Help and when they woke up, they fast dressed and went away.
Maybe better to try with termas girl in her day off ?[/QUOTE]You need to arrange what time they will leave and sex at night and then sleep and again in the morning, make sure they are clear off it.
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[QUOTE=Jazzy Daddy]Still not much street action so I just hung out patiently waiting. I spoke to one sw who looked halfway decent but I was still waiting for something a little more special.
My patience paid off, 2 hotties showed up. The morena, the better looking of the two with a smokin body, beckoned me over and I countered for her to come to me she obliged and sauntered over. We chatted a bit in portuguese exchanged the compulsory cheek kiss and started the negotiations.
I gor her down to R25[/QUOTE]Jd,
Interesting read there. Will be making my second trip to Rio in May and I'm very interested in exploring the "street actions" in Rio. During my first trip in Rio last year, I pretty much hung out at Help every other night. While I did enjoy the atmosphere and the talent of GDPs, it definitely grew old on me by my 4th visit.
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[QUOTE=Jazzy Daddy]Still not much street action so I just hung out patiently waiting. I spoke to one sw who looked halfway decent but I was still waiting for something a little more special.
My patience paid off, 2 hotties showed up. The morena, the better looking of the two with a smokin body, beckoned me over and I countered for her to come to me she obliged and sauntered over. We chatted a bit in portuguese exchanged the compulsory cheek kiss and started the negotiations.
I gor her down to R25[/QUOTE]Jd,
Interesting read there. Will be making my second trip to Rio in May and I'm very interested in exploring the "street actions" in Rio. During my first trip in Rio last year, I pretty much hung out at Help every other night. While I did enjoy the atmosphere and the talent of GDPs, it definitely grew old on me by my 4th visit. While I am still planning to visit Help again, I was also planning to hook up with some SWs and your post above was right up my alley. Could you offer me more insight?
The street you mentioned in your post, Prado Jr. , is where I will be staying. On my first visit to Help, I did a walk around of Help (that was around 1130pm) and a SW approached my wanting my business. She was in her 30's and had past her prime and you could definitely tell just by looking at her that she had been in the "business" for a long time. She spoke good english so she might of been a Help girl during her prime. She was decent looking but I declined her offer cause I was a newbie at that time and did not want to get into any unwanted trouble.
Is Prado Jr a good street to meet SWs or are there other streets that I should visit? Is av. Atlantica a good street to meet SWs or is it too dangerous of a place for a foreigner to walk around after midnight? Do most SWs speak good enough english or will I need to negotiate with them in portuguese? I love the idea of having a woman staying overnight with me. In general what were your experiences like with SWs in your hotel/apartment? I know heavy screening is a must but with my limited portuguese and lack of enough time. I really don't know how well I will be able to screen them. And also you had mentioned strip/night clubs along prado jr. Are they similar to Help. That you have to pay an entrance fee and then you negotiate with the girl on the price?
DC
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L`uomo Drink Prices
[QUOTE=Exec Talent]I stopped by L'uomo to have a drink after having a great session with the MC blond I mentioned in a previous post (Adelli is her name). In years past they put out a great spread for Carnaval. That was not the case this year. However, the shocker came when I got my bill. An imported Capivodka is now R$25. I couldn't believe it so I asked to see the price list. There are now many drinks on there R$25 and R$30.
You guys may want to check prices before you put down two or three drinks. I feel sorry for the receptionists who I am sure are going to be getting in some discussion with guys questioning charges.
As for the food, I no longer plan on eating there. Lately, it has consisted mostly of chicken legs, rice and beans. It is not the cook's fault, who is excellent, but the budget she is forced to work within.
There are a lot of tourists who do not know any better in town for Carnaval this week. I wonder what they think is going to happen when guys who have been around show up next month.[/QUOTE]The service in L'uomo is the best in Rio in my opinion.
About the food. L'uomo is a Termas not a restaurant.
One day or another the food can not be the ideal but in a general way, the food in luomo is excellent.
If some guys doesn't like. Just don't go there!
The service and the employees in L'uomo are, by far, the best in Rio.
I recomend everyone to go there.
Big Hugh for all!
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Agree
[QUOTE=Renner]The service in L'uomo is the best in Rio in my opinion.
About the food. L'uomo is a Termas not a restaurant.
One day or another the food can not be the ideal but in a general way, the food in luomo is excellent.
If some guys doesn't like. Just don't go there!
The service and the employees in L'uomo are, by far, the best in Rio.
I recomend everyone to go there.
Big Hugh for all![/QUOTE]
To best of my knowledge and belief, no one has ever said anything negative about the employees at L'uomo. In fact, other than knowing that it is hug, not hugh, the bartender at L'uomo, in my opinion, is the best in Rio. The rest of the employees are equally awesome. Also, I was very clear that the cook is excellent; but it is hard to make anything decent when you have no money to work with.
The problem lies, as it always does, with management. Turn on the television, pickup a newspaper. It is hard to miss that the economy is not doing very well. Raising prices in such an environment makes absolutely no sense. In a roundabout way, I am trying to offer some helpful advice and since this board has an active and diverse readership maybe it will come to the attention of someone who can do something about it.
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DC / safety
DC,
I would recommend you read (or re-read) Bubba Boys guide to Rio. It will answer many of your questions about both girls and safety. Also read the crime and safety thread in the forum.
Many of the streets are dangerous for tuorist especially after midnight.
Not only Atlantica and the area around Prado Junior.
I think if you read both threads mentioned above you will learn a greal deal of insight for a safe and enjoyable trip.
Have fun and stay safe. PL
[QUOTE=Dreamcarnarvon]Jd,
Interesting read there. Will be making my second trip to Rio in May and I'm very interested in exploring the "street actions" in Rio. During my first trip in Rio last year, I pretty much hung out at Help every other night. While I did enjoy the atmosphere and the talent of GDPs, it definitely grew old on me by my 4th visit. While I am still planning to visit Help again, I was also planning to hook up with some SWs and your post above was right up my alley. Could you offer me more insight?
The street you mentioned in your post, Prado Jr. , is where I will be staying....
Is Prado Jr a good street to meet SWs or are there other streets that I should visit? Is av. Atlantica a good street to meet SWs or is it too dangerous of a place for a foreigner to walk around after midnight? Do most SWs speak good enough english or will I need to negotiate with them in portuguese? I love the idea of having a woman staying overnight with me. In general what were your experiences like with SWs in your hotel/apartment? I know heavy screening is a must but with my limited portuguese and lack of enough time. I really don't know how well I will be able to screen them. And also you had mentioned strip/night clubs along prado jr. Are they similar to Help. That you have to pay an entrance fee and then you negotiate with the girl on the price?
DC[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=JohnnyBraz]A few years ago, this may have been possible, but not now. It's all about money to these girls, yes you may get free sex off a gdp, but she'll want something out off it etc. And you'll still pay the first few days.[/QUOTE]I read in another section about "Piranha" this I think is what im looking. Do you or some else have some info about this kind of girls?
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[QUOTE=Renner]The service in L'uomo is the best in Rio in my opinion.
About the food. L'uomo is a Termas not a restaurant.
One day or another the food can not be the ideal but in a general way, the food in luomo is excellent.
If some guys doesn't like. Just don't go there!
The service and the employees in L'uomo are, by far, the best in Rio.
I recomend everyone to go there.
Big Hugh for all![/QUOTE]
Yes, I agree. Basically on all points. Peter is the best barkeep I have ever met in Rio. Even the ladies in the locker room are really nice. And of course the girls ... :D I love L'uomo.
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Whatever happened to bobby from blame it on rio travel. They used to always post on this site.Is he in jail?pass away? horrible customer service finally catch up to him.
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[QUOTE=Renner]The service in L'uomo is the best in Rio in my opinion.
About the food. L'uomo is a Termas not a restaurant.
One day or another the food can not be the ideal but in a general way, the food in luomo is excellent.
If some guys doesn't like. Just don't go there!
The service and the employees in L'uomo are, by far, the best in Rio.
I recomend everyone to go there.
Big Hugh for all![/QUOTE]
Calm down dude, LOL! Luomos is okay hardly the best in Rio IMHO. As far as Im concerned the best thing its got going is the proximity. It's getting to be overpriced ( drinks, massage, etc). The talent as of this week is so so IMHO. I took someone there this week for the first time and he was very disappointed and refuses to return. Like they say to each his own. I would recommend guys check out all termas at least once, then you cam decide which one you like the best.
As far as staff and service they are to me just as cool as any of the other termas I have been to. Never had any problems. I will continue to go because at times it's more convenient. Btw I like the cute blonde who calls the rooms when your time is up. She is usually in the back where the girls locker is located. Met her when she substituted in the mens locker room one day. Very nice girl.
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Piranhas
[QUOTE=Gavazzi]I read in another section about "Piranha" this I think is what im looking. Do you or some else have some info about this kind of girls?[/QUOTE]
AFAIK, "piranha" means roughly "hardcore puta who specializes in hapless foreign mongers and will stop at nothing to separate you from your funds as quickly as possible". Needless to say, the hardcore GDPs, i.e. piranhas, themselves use it almost as a term of admiration for the skills of a girl in this specific respect. Call it "recognition for professional excellence".
Is this REALLY what you are looking for? If yes, you shouldn't have any problem finding a girl like that in Rio; as a matter of fact, it's much more difficult to stay clear off them. To find them, just go to MP, TA, Balcony, and Help and tell everyone you've never been to Rio before, speak no Portuguese, and have wads of cash to throw around. You will be very popular pretty fast :)
EA
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[QUOTE=El Austriaco]AFAIK, "piranha" means roughly "hardcore puta who specializes in hapless foreign mongers who will stop at nothing to separate you from your funds as quickly as possible". Needless to say, the hardcore GDPs, i.e. piranhas, themselves use it almost as a term of admiration for the skills of a girl in this specific respect. Call it "recognition for professional excellence".
Is this REALLY what you are looking for? If yes, you shouldn't have any problem finding a girl like that in Rio; as a matter of fact, it's much more difficult to stay clear off them. To find them, just go to MP, TA, Balcony, and Help and tell everyone you've never been to Rio before, speak no Portuguese, and have wads of cash to throw around. You will be very popular pretty fast :)
EA[/QUOTE]Go through the 2003 photo thread, and look for these girls at mp, ta mabs, balconey etc. The ones you find from there will be the ones you want.
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[QUOTE=El Austriaco]AFAIK, "piranha" means roughly "hardcore puta who specializes in hapless foreign mongers who will stop at nothing to separate you from your funds as quickly as possible". Needless to say, the hardcore GDPs, i.e. piranhas, themselves use it almost as a term of admiration for the skills of a girl in this specific respect. Call it "recognition for professional excellence".
Is this REALLY what you are looking for? If yes, you shouldn't have any problem finding a girl like that in Rio; as a matter of fact, it's much more difficult to stay clear off them. To find them, just go to MP, TA, Balcony, and Help and tell everyone you've never been to Rio before, speak no Portuguese, and have wads of cash to throw around. You will be very popular pretty fast :)
EA[/QUOTE]Hahaha I see your point no I'm not look for that. Read more detailed what I mean in my other report/post. Its more of a company girl and for me that stay here for long time its more cheaper.
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[QUOTE=Dreamcarnarvon]Jd,
Interesting read there. Will be making my second trip to Rio in May and I'm very interested in exploring the "street actions" in Rio. During my first trip in Rio last year, I pretty much hung out at Help every other night. While I did enjoy the atmosphere and the talent of GDPs, it definitely grew old on me by my 4th visit. While I am still planning to visit Help again, I was also planning to hook up with some SWs and your post above was right up my alley. Could you offer me more insight?
The street you mentioned in your post, Prado Jr. , is where I will be staying. On my first visit to Help, I did a walk around of Help (that was around 1130pm) and a SW approached my wanting my business. She was in her 30's and had past her prime and you could definitely tell just by looking at her that she had been in the "business" for a long time. She spoke good english so she might of been a Help girl during her prime. She was decent looking but I declined her offer cause I was a newbie at that time and did not want to get into any unwanted trouble.
Is Prado Jr a good street to meet SWs or are there other streets that I should visit? Is av. Atlantica a good street to meet SWs or is it too dangerous of a place for a foreigner to walk around after midnight? Do most SWs speak good enough english or will I need to negotiate with them in portuguese? I love the idea of having a woman staying overnight with me. In general what were your experiences like with SWs in your hotel/apartment? I know heavy screening is a must but with my limited portuguese and lack of enough time. I really don't know how well I will be able to screen them. And also you had mentioned strip/night clubs along prado jr. Are they similar to Help. That you have to pay an entrance fee and then you negotiate with the girl on the price?
DC[/QUOTE]
Unless you can speak Portuguese well and carry yourself as a Brasileiro, I wouldn´t attemp to do what I did in Prado Jr. As far as Ave Atlantico and picking up SW´s there, I wouldn´t do it myself.
My advise is, learn to speak portuguese fluidly and you´ll be surprised how many doors will open for you here in Brasil. Non-working girls will flock to you as well as working girls. I have my hands full with both...
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Dance Club - Not Help
You should try Nuth Club at Barra da Tijuca, Mariuzzin in Downtown or Copacabana nand another one that I do not remember the name now and its located in Ipanema, Barao da Torre street.
Let me know!
[QUOTE=Maximus V]Hi,
I'll be in town in 2 weeks and I'm looking for recommendations for a Big Dance club with Non-Pros the opposite of (Help) to take my friends from NYC who are not into mongering. Location near Copa/Ipanema would be ideal. Nice atmosphere bottle service etc. Any ideas?
Thanks[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Gavazzi]I read in another section about "Piranha" this I think is what im looking. Do you or some else have some info about this kind of girls?[/QUOTE]
No, no, no, or did you mean "picanha"? :D
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Piranha
means a woman who gets around. It's one of the nastier words for a ****. (four letter word that starts with an S and ends with a T). It does NOT mean that she charges money, though it can be used for girls who do, as well. For instance, when informed that my girlfriend did not charge me for sex, a GDP said, "So I'm a puta and she's a piranha."
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Bobby is fine
[QUOTE=Brazilman]Whatever happened to bobby from blame it on rio travel. They used to always post on this site.Is he in jail?pass away? horrible customer service finally catch up to him.[/QUOTE]
I just saw him the other day when he was nice enough to let me use his printer because the internet cafes were all closed for Carnaval. He looked good and seems to be doing a brisk non-monger business. I respect that he is very involved with his young son. His laundry looks nice and seems to be doing well. As for his business practices, I have inquired but never rented an apartment from him so cannot comment.
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Dance club, not HELP
[QUOTE=Renner] another one that I do not remember the name now and its located in Ipanema, Barao da Torre street.
[/QUOTE]
That is Baronneti
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Semi pro bisexual sought
Gentlemen:
I am looking for a bisexual woman for a few get togethers with a girlfriend in Rio.
I am not interested in full time pros (as I can always find those myself), but rather someone who might be interested in a longer time relationship with us. Of course, I will generously compensate the young lady for her time.
Please pm me if you have any suggestions.
Many thanks Forest
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Non pro dance club
[QUOTE=Maximus V]Hi,
I'll be in town in 2 weeks and I'm looking for recommendations for a Big Dance club with Non-Pros the opposite of (Help) to take my friends from NYC who are not into mongering. Location near Copa/Ipanema would be ideal. Nice atmosphere bottle service etc. Any ideas?
Thanks[/QUOTE]
I highly recommend Rio Scenarium in the Lapas district. Its 15 minutes by taxi from Copa, but they have great bands and dancing. Its three stories high, but there is no ceiling in the middle of the first and second floors, and you can hear the music very well throughout the restaurant. The place is very popular, so its best not to arrive too late (I usually arrive around 10:30 pm) or else you may be waiting in line. You can eat dinner there; for the best seats, I recommend making a reservation (3147 9000).
You cannot go wrong here.
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First day
I was at help, it seems to me a bit worst than january about quality of girls and however many girls are the same, almost no new entry or do they already went back home after carnival ?
Very bad, much more gringos than january :(
On the way back home the taxi told me that a very good boites is Senso on Princess Isabel, I do not remember I read something here about it....so where exactly is and it worth it ?
P.S. I was in Lapa and in january and me and my friend went in front of Scenarium too, many persons on balcony, but I was really no impressed from what I saw imho...may be inside could look much different....but the second day I left for Argentina, so I went to sleep....however Lapa not worth it for me, maybe nice to see once, but I almost not seen nice girls there.
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[QUOTE=Exec Talent]I just saw him the other day when he was nice enough to let me use his printer because the internet cafes were all closed for Carnaval. He looked good and seems to be doing a brisk non-monger business. I respect that he is very involved with his young son. His laundry looks nice and seems to be doing well. As for his business practices, I have inquired but never rented an apartment from him so cannot comment.[/QUOTE]I rented from Bobby last December. The place he rented to me was nice.
However, I had an incident in my apartment with the upstairs apartment's kitchen sink heavily leaking water into my bathroom. This could happen to any apartment.
Bobby had his staff respond right-away. I was even offed another apartment, but I was too settled to move after 3 days. I give him an A+ in trying too fix things that spontaneously go wrong. He and his staff work late and can be found 7 days a week. I like the laundry service, and he'll let you call the US with his US phone number.
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1st day rio
So finally I am in Rio and since I arrived late and my Hotel is nearby Help I couldn't resist enterting it yesterday. To be honest, I was shocked of the quality of the girls and the quality of the customers. Hadnt seen 1 decent looking women. I have travelled alot around the globe but thats not the place for me to go. Heading to Centaurus in the next hour and will report about that. What a bad start.
Vandeta
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[QUOTE=Jazzy Daddy]Unless you can speak Portuguese well and carry yourself as a Brasileiro, I wouldn´t attemp to do what I did in Prado Jr. As far as Ave Atlantico and picking up SW´s there, I wouldn´t do it myself.
My advise is, learn to speak portuguese fluidly and you´ll be surprised how many doors will open for you here in Brasil. Non-working girls will flock to you as well as working girls. I have my hands full with both...[/QUOTE]Thanks for your advice JD. Perhaps what I had experienced on my first trip was not the real Rio. I love to monger but I'm also looking forward to making many non-pro lady friends. Better get started on my portuguese lessons.
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[QUOTE=Lukasek]I was at help, it seems to me a bit worst than january about quality of girls and however many girls are the same, almost no new entry or do they already went back home after carnival ?
Very bad, much more gringos than january.[/QUOTE]During my first Rio trip I was at Help a lot. Can't say that I did not like the place or the talent of girls. There was definitely more girls than guys. Looking forward to going there again in May. Hoping to pick up a few cell # from the GDPs and call them up during the day so I don't have to pay the entrance fee at Help. BTW, how long are you staying in Rio?
DC
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Jazzy - nice work
Thats was a good find! Nice!
I think I'm familiar with the area - its across from the Tiradentes park, right? I've never noticed any GDPs around there. I guess I have to keep a better look out.
Can you tell me more about that hook-up?
What were the girls doing that made you notice them?
Were they looking your way or?
Were they right in front of the hotel or near the park?
How did you know they were GDPs?
Thanks
[QUOTE=Jazzy Daddy]Finally had some free time to wonder around a bit....
Headed up to silva Jardim and took a right and saw some girls hanging out at the Paris Hotel on the otherside of the park. took the better looking of the bunch at R25 for her and R15 for the room for an hour. Great BBBJ where she held just the head of my dick in her mouth and and licked and sucked it like a lollypop. I came and she swallowed every last drop...[/QUOTE]
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Sensoo
One of the worst clip joints in Lapa, you feel like a sheep surrounded by farmers with clippers when you walk in there!
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Paris hotel
That's right, across from the park. I saw them standing in front and my ho-dar went off. She said she lives there at the hotel. Have fun!
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Mimosa (heard there was a shooting last week - anyone confirm?) to namorada - sexy day at the beach yesterday - invitation to stay at her place way out past Nilopolis - trawling today - NS Copa 500, great experience again, Quitanda 81 awful (flurescent light barely illuminating the non-doables but they still wanted their 10R entrada) - Carioca naff - Praca Tiradentes and ´smelly street´horrific except for one girl quickly taken - Casarao, the two girls I fancied were taken - leaflets collected for Stella Hollywood at usual addresses (See Sperto´s list) and Centro de Lazer 82 (82 Rua Goncalves Dias 82, 2nd floor) but couldn´t be bothered with more stairs. Except BA85 where I hit lucky. (Was gonna write a long report entitled ´A Kilograma of Filth from the Frontline´ but couldn´t be bothered lol - Carnaval champions parade tomorrow and all the info is on the board already guys!)
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Non Pro Dance Club
Thanks guys, I'll go check out the spots you suggested.
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Agree
[QUOTE=Big Bopperino][blue]Gentlemen,
The purpose of this Forum is to provide for the exchange of information between Men on the subject of finding Women for Sex.
Let's get back to the subject.
Thank You,
Jackson[/blue][/QUOTE]I think you`re right man, but some people have nothing to do here.
This forum was created on the subject you said before.
BTW anyone here knows Kelly (L`uomo) ?
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[QUOTE=Forest]I highly recommend Rio Scenarium in the Lapas district. Its 15 minutes by taxi from Copa, but they have great bands and dancing. Its three stories high, but there is no ceiling in the middle of the first and second floors, and you can hear the music very well throughout the restaurant. The place is very popular, so its best not to arrive too late (I usually arrive around 10:30 pm) or else you may be waiting in line. You can eat dinner there; for the best seats, I recommend making a reservation (3147 9000).
You cannot go wrong here.[/QUOTE]Rio Scenarium is a good place to go.
Excelent advise!
Agree 100%!
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[QUOTE=Christopherd]Mimosa (heard there was a shooting last week - anyone confirm?) to namorada - sexy day at the beach yesterday - invitation to stay at her place way out past Nilopolis - trawling today - NS Copa 500, great experience again, Quitanda 81 awful (flurescent light barely illuminating the non-doables but they still wanted their 10R entrada) - Carioca naff - Praca Tiradentes and ´smelly street´horrific except for one girl quickly taken - Casarao, the two girls I fancied were taken - leaflets collected for Stella Hollywood at usual addresses (See Sperto´s list) and Centro de Lazer 82 (82 Rua Goncalves Dias 82, 2nd floor) but couldn´t be bothered with more stairs. Except BA85 where I hit lucky. (Was gonna write a long report entitled ´A Kilograma of Filth from the Frontline´ but couldn´t be bothered lol - Carnaval champions parade tomorrow and all the info is on the board already guys!)[/QUOTE]Yes, there was a shooting in Mimosa last week.
Someone killed a policeman there.
Guys, Mimosa is a f... dangerous place to go. Gangs everywhere(Punks,drug dealers and many others).
Be carefull there!
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[QUOTE=Vandeta09]So finally I am in Rio and since I arrived late and my Hotel is nearby Help I couldn't resist enterting it yesterday. To be honest, I was shocked of the quality of the girls and the quality of the customers. Hadnt seen 1 decent looking women. I have travelled alot around the globe but thats not the place for me to go. Heading to Centaurus in the next hour and will report about that. What a bad start.
Vandeta[/QUOTE]Help used to be a good place to go. Not anymore.
Ugly girls everywhere.
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sensoo
Surely you mean Copa, not Lapa
[QUOTE=Veterano]One of the worst clip joints in Lapa, you feel like a sheep surrounded by farmers with clippers when you walk in there![/QUOTE]
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Curious
[QUOTE=Renner]Help used to be a good place to go. Not anymore.
Ugly girls everywhere.[/QUOTE]
So, let me guess the alternative is to go to (drumroll) a termas!
Curious, do all the termas girls who go to Help after the termas closes suddenly become ugly? Or do only ugly termas girls work at Help?
Outside and inside Help has been very busy the nights I have been there. Maybe the termas are pricing themselves out of the market. Even at R$300, a guy can spend all night with a girl for what he now pays for 40 minutes in some termas. Add to that the outrageous drink prices some termas are charging, and Help seems to be a good choice.
In the termas, the lighting is dark for a reason. Outside and even inside of Help you can see what the girl really looks like. I have had no problem finding attractive girls, who could work in any termas, from R$150 to R$250. And, one can take his time; there is no phone ringing after 40 or 60 minutes.
One other thing about the girls working at Help is that, except in the case of an exploitative husband, boyfriend, girlfriend or family, the money is theirs. As I understand it, in Brazil, anyone living off the proceeds of prostitution is earning money illegally.
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Prices again....can`t believe !!
[QUOTE=Exec Talent]So, let me guess the alternative is to go to (drumroll) a termas!
Curious, do all the termas girls who go to Help after the termas closes suddenly become ugly? Or do only ugly termas girls work at Help?
Outside and inside Help has been very busy the nights I have been there. Maybe the termas are pricing themselves out of the market. Even at R$300, a guy can spend all night with a girl for what he now pays for 40 minutes in some termas. Add to that the outrageous drink prices some termas are charging, and Help seems to be a good choice.
In the termas, the lighting is dark for a reason. Outside and even inside of Help you can see what the girl really looks like. I have had no problem finding attractive girls, who could work in any termas, from R$150 to R$250. And, one can take his time; there is no phone ringing after 40 or 60 minutes.
One other thing about the girls working at Help is that, except in the case of an exploitative husband, boyfriend, girlfriend or family, the money is theirs. As I understand it, in Brazil, anyone living of the proceeds of prostitution is earning money illegally.[/QUOTE]Amazing!
You and your prices theory and discussion AGAIN!!
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[QUOTE=Exec Talent]So, let me guess the alternative is to go to (drumroll) a termas!
Curious, do all the termas girls who go to Help after the termas closes suddenly become ugly? Or do only ugly termas girls work at Help?
Outside and inside Help has been very busy the nights I have been there. Maybe the termas are pricing themselves out of the market. Even at R$300, a guy can spend all night with a girl for what he now pays for 40 minutes in some termas. Add to that the outrageous drink prices some termas are charging, and Help seems to be a good choice.
In the termas, the lighting is dark for a reason. Outside and even inside of Help you can see what the girl really looks like. I have had no problem finding attractive girls, who could work in any termas, from R$150 to R$250. And, one can take his time; there is no phone ringing after 40 or 60 minutes.
One other thing about the girls working at Help is that, except in the case of an exploitative husband, boyfriend, girlfriend or family, the money is theirs. As I understand it, in Brazil, anyone living of the proceeds of prostitution is earning money illegally.[/QUOTE]My observation exactly! I never had a problem finding what I wanted in Help or at TA.
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Agree
[QUOTE=Renner]Yes, there was a shooting in Mimosa last week.
Someone killed a policeman there.
Guys, Mimosa is a f... dangerous place to go. Gangs everywhere(Punks,drug dealers and many others).
Be carefull there![/QUOTE]
I warned people there was mafioso there. Last time I went there was a gang of favela boys running around in that place.
Yes be careful when going
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[QUOTE=Jesuscola]means a woman who gets around. It's one of the nastier words for a ****. (four letter word that starts with an S and ends with a T). It does NOT mean that she charges money, though it can be used for girls who do, as well. For instance, when informed that my girlfriend did not charge me for sex, a GDP said, "So I'm a puta and she's a piranha."[/QUOTE]
I was always told by a brazilian Pirahna meant to attack or go after fresh meat in metaphoric terms,like gringoes etc... Maybe the person that told me was wrong??
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[QUOTE=Renner]Help used to be a good place to go. Not anymore.
Ugly girls everywhere.[/QUOTE]
Yesterday was nothing special and I left at 4 in the morning (not alone however...) ......outside I met one very nice, from San Paolo, worked in barbarella for 2 nights, but she said, no many turist there, she wanted at 23:40, 300 reais and she was really good, white skin, blond, tall and slim and when I asked for how much time,she said, time is not a problem, I only need to find one customer this night, I was thinking to go with her to a normal disco or good bar but.....no anal and she said, at first time she never kiss sem camisinha.......I did not acrossed the ocean to get a girl that doesn't do anal and bbbj, no matter if she is really nice and friendly....cause such a girl, I really hardly doubt she can then do a GFE...
However, really now help has lower quality of girls and yesterday was saturday...i am curious today and tomorrow....
Ah btw, yes after 3 days I broke my virginity yesterday...later i will write more....however time to hit termas here.....
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[QUOTE=Madd Love]I was always told by a brazilian Pirahna meant to attack or go after fresh meat in metaphoric terms, like gringoes etc. Maybe the person that told me was wrong? [/QUOTE]I might have found what I was looking for. If it called Pirahna I don't know and don't care accually
I spotted a very nice girl not so "hardcore" looking if you know what I mean. I took her home for 200R and did some talking put on my charm. The day after we change numero. And so far I have meet her some times for free, ofcourse I buy her dinner. Some days ago we made some talking about our "relationship" and come up with that she will ofcourse still working and I will some times compensate for the lost salary but to a "friend" price.
And belive it or not last night a meet a new that I asked if she wanted dinner today and it end up in bed for free. So my point is I belive they are quit willing to do some "normal" onenight stand now and then if they are treated well. A point is that these two wasnt what I could see and figure out hardcore girls
But I'm not sure how it will go after some weeks. I'm quit reasonable when it come to this type of girls and have one motto "never trust them"
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[QUOTE=Exec Talent]So, let me guess the alternative is to go to (drumroll) a termas!
Curious, do all the termas girls who go to Help after the termas closes suddenly become ugly? Or do only ugly termas girls work at Help?
Outside and inside Help has been very busy the nights I have been there. Maybe the termas are pricing themselves out of the market. Even at R$300, a guy can spend all night with a girl for what he now pays for 40 minutes in some termas. Add to that the outrageous drink prices some termas are charging, and Help seems to be a good choice.
In the termas, the lighting is dark for a reason. Outside and even inside of Help you can see what the girl really looks like. I have had no problem finding attractive girls, who could work in any termas, from R$150 to R$250. And, one can take his time; there is no phone ringing after 40 or 60 minutes.
One other thing about the girls working at Help is that, except in the case of an exploitative husband, boyfriend, girlfriend or family, the money is theirs. As I understand it, in Brazil, anyone living off the proceeds of prostitution is earning money illegally.[/QUOTE]Hey ET,
I agree with you. If one can get a R$270 an hour termas girl to ones apartment for 4 to 8 hours, wouldn't that be a goo deal. Because, they do get medical treatments more often, or more than likely than a Help girl. But again, I am rethinking my pro termas to con Help because of the termas prices. Like you, I have had a good loking Help girl over price me or turn me down. But f the termas keep going up on their prices, I will deal with Help.
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Saturday 28 february
Saturday afternoon i went to montecarlo.....nothing special, much better in january, many men, most of them almost no drink at all and i did not see many girls to go to bedroom too.
After long time from my last session, floripa sucks...., I decided to try to have an overnight from help.......I found one 26 yo thin, white skin, nice and very friendly. Here funny enough that after I wrote about semipro in the forum I found one....I thought it could be very good,semipro, but I realized I was wrong....
So she works for 500 monthly reais at shopping, she told me the name, I forgot and only at saturday she come to help to work and have fun too...I thought I found my girl :)
The first question was if she is completa, she said yes, I wanted to be sure and I asked if she likes anal, she smiled and said yes....I asked if she kiss without condom and she said yes again....I thought finally.......she told me, she asks from 300 till 400 depends if she likes or not the man, we agree for 300 reais till noon.
Actually if you think 100 euro (300 reais) is not so much for an overnight, do not forget that she works 26 days per month and she get only 500 reais.....so when she told me how low is her salary I immediately realized how much we are gonna to overpay them even if we give them only 300 reais....I am not cheap, but I hate to pay more, when there is no need to do it.
However.....no anal and no bbbj once in hotel.....when i asked why she said an hour before yes, she said, that she thought I asked her if she likes oral and not anal....bulshit number one.....when I asked why no bbbj, she said, I need to learn more from brazil, cause GDP never do bbbj.... I look to her and I said, sorry I am here from half of january and I was in 4 termas.....do not bullshit me with this lie of bbbj....she smiled but I smiled much more, cause we were naked in the bed after daty, me horny as bull with 3 balls.... BUT I still did not paid her !!!! LOL
So very calm and quiet I said....ok, dress, now I go back to help to find another girl.....she obviously started to get pissed off and bulshit as anal sex is sex for gay ( oh really? LOL) and that I can catch all the disease of this world with oral without condom....while she was trying to bullshit me, I was already dressed and I told her...do you go out from the hotel with your legs or I call reception ?
In half second she said....ok oral without condom but no anal...I said, ok, but you stay till noon and if I will wake up in the night, we will have sex and I showed her that I put alarm in my cell phone LOL
She said yes and we got...sex very average....but at least 3 times and with decent bbbj.
So overall, not so bad as it could end, but my ONLY ONE LUCKY was that I did NOT paid her in advance or I think it could end with spending money and having nothing good.
Usually I do not paid in advance, but from yesterday I will never do it, once you pay, she will decide and if she want money in advance, she already know VERY WELL she is gonna to give very bad service and better to use this excuse to send her out immediately.
Last thoughts.... no matter how much you negotiate, if you find a real *****, she will break the deal in every moments she wants and.... no more semipro LOL
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Anyone been to this Terma
ANCORA
[url]http://www.ancoradorecreio.com.br[/url]
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Ancora
I asked here in my hotel, recrejo it is after barra da tijuca, so this termas it seems to me something as the paris cafe in barra i was in january.
Paris cafe is from copa a bit closer but we paid about 160 reais only for taxi, Ancora you will be about 200 reais just to go there and back.
Again I think you will find the same prices as in 4x4 or even more expensive, so for me it does not worth it, but I can be wrong and...if you are not lazy, you can take a omnibus from avenida atlantica, number 175, that take you till barra and there another omnibus or taxi till recrejo.
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Paying upfront
Hey Lukasek,
I have found away to deal with this. I agree on a full night price (i.e. 300R$ in your case). If she asks for money beforehand, I only give her 100R$ and say that it is for just one hour, and if I like the service, then we'll stay overnight for the extra 200R$. And I only pay the 200R$ if I am satisfied at the end of the agreed total time.
Of course, my best experiences have always been when I did not need to pay beforehand.
Regards.
B.B.
[QUOTE=Lukasek] ...
Usually I do not paid in advance, but from yesterday I will never do it, once you pay, she will decide and if she want money in advance, she already know VERY WELL she is gonna to give very bad service and better to use this excuse to send her out immediately.
Last thoughts.... no matter how much you negotiate, if you find a real *****, she will break the deal in every moments she wants and.... no more semipro LOL[/QUOTE]
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its amazing that the people who have been to rio many times, are still end up discussing help vs. terma.
they are both pretty good, as far as i am concerned.
different, but pretty good!
helpee has its own charm and ambiance. its free entertainment( of for 35 reals), you witness the hunt and the prey!
the mongers who will spend 100 bucks on drinks but haggle over 50 with the gdp! or the shit faced monger spit-swapping with the ugliest, fattest chick in there.
very few places like it in the world.
it's great fun:)
as for finding girls, that's up to you and what you want, isn't it. there are beautiful girls in helpee and ugly ones with scars and stretch marks in termas.
my most memorable time in rio was with a shy girl visiting from belo, with average face, nice body and awesome attitude once in the apartment.
instead of taking her the next night, i went with a beautiful party girl.
that was the worst experience i ever had in rio :(
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[QUOTE=Bimbo Boy]Hey Lukasek,
I have found away to deal with this. I agree on a full night price (i.e. 300R$ in your case). If she asks for money beforehand, I only give her 100R$ and say that it is for just one hour, and if I like the service, then we'll stay overnight for the extra 200R$. And I only pay the 200R$ if I am satisfied at the end of the agreed total time.
Of course, my best experiences have always been when I did not need to pay beforehand.
Regards,
B.B.[/QUOTE]I like that idea. I will experiment with it in 22 days.
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[QUOTE=Bimbo Boy]Hey Lukasek,
I have found away to deal with this. I agree on a full night price (i.e. 300R$ in your case). If she asks for money beforehand, I only give her 100R$ and say that it is for just one hour, and if I like the service, then we'll stay overnight for the extra 200R$. And I only pay the 200R$ if I am satisfied at the end of the agreed total time.
Of course, my best experiences have always been when I did not need to pay beforehand.
Regards,
B.B.[/QUOTE]Interesting. I have never had a garota ask me for money upfront. In many trips to Rio. But that is an interesting way off dealing with that problem.
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paying upfront
Without exception every girl that has asked me for money upfront (about 5) has turned out to be a lousy experience. It is not normal to pay upfront in Rio. Any girl that asks for money upfront is doing so because she has an agenda, an agenda that does not fit with providing a good service.
A good friend of mine in Rio deals with this as follows. If any girls asks for money, he shows her that he has it in his wallet. He then explains that if there are no major issues she will be paid without question. If she is not happy with this she is free to leave, without a cent of course and no taxi money.
In Rio, like life in general, if someones pushes you, you push back. No one gets respect by rolling over. These words are very true when dealing with a GDP.
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[QUOTE=Bubba Boy]Without exception every girl that has asked me for money upfront (about 5) has turned out to be a lousy experience. It is not normal to pay upfront in Rio. Any girl that asks for money upfront is doing so because she has an agenda, an agenda that does not fit with providing a good service.
A good friend of mine in Rio deals with this as follows. If any girls asks for money, he shows her that he has it in his wallet. He then explains that if there are no major issues she will be paid without question. If she is not happy with this she is free to leave, without a cent of course and no taxi money.
In Rio, like life in general, if someones pushes you, you push back. No one gets respect by rolling over. These words are very true when dealing with a GDP.[/QUOTE]I've never had a girl ask for money up front. But I like the 1 hour concept. If she is lousy, then hy keep her. This will mkae her work harder to stay all night. Besides, most of these girls travel from a far to get to Copa, and they need somewhere to stay. So we are really doing them a favor. So if she changes her mind about anal or BBBJ, then she gets R$100 and she is out the door.
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[QUOTE=Bubba Boy]Without exception every girl that has asked me for money upfront (about 5) has turned out to be a lousy experience. It is not normal to pay upfront in Rio. Any girl that asks for money upfront is doing so because she has an agenda, an agenda that does not fit with providing a good service....[/QUOTE]
I agree with this 100%. Never, ever pay upfront. If she asks for money in advance, show her the door.
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Originally Posted by Bubba Boy
Without exception every girl that has asked me for money upfront (about 5) has turned out to be a lousy experience. It is not normal to pay upfront in Rio. Any girl that asks for money upfront is doing so because she has an agenda, an agenda that does not fit with providing a good service....
[QUOTE=Lorenzo]I agree with this 100%. Never, ever pay upfront. If she asks for money in advance, show her the door.[/QUOTE]
It can't be said any better that that!
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Paying upfront.....is a major mistake.
I have only had two horrible experiences in my many visits to Rio. One was from a garota that had a nasty cold ( nothing having to do with money ), and the other was from a gal I picked up in front of Help. She was one great sweet talker and a looker from Salvador. I was an idiot for paying her upfront. Once I did, I was toast!
Never again have I paid upfront. Never again have I been burned. Definite correlation exists there.
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[QUOTE=Lorenzo]I agree with this 100%. Never, ever pay upfront. If she asks for money in advance, show her the door.[/QUOTE]
It is so gold and precious sentence that it deserves to be quoted twice, maybe to get in the report of distinction too ;)
It is the 99% you all need here if you want to be able to get GFE.
Great Lorenzo to wrote it so short, so wise, so good... so perfect !
P.S. back now from termas 65 and 4x4, yesterday centaurus and solarium...when I have a while i will report all....have fun
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[quote=oakwood99]my observation exactly! i never had a problem finding what i wanted in help or at ta.[/quote]what is ta? i've only been to helpee.
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[quote=nimms]what is ta? i've only been to helpee.[/quote]
terraço atlantico, right in the middle of skank central in copa. you have not missed much
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Ta
[quote=nimms]what is ta? i've only been to helpee.[/quote]
terraco atlantico is the restaurant next door to help.
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[quote=the watcher]terraco atlantico is the restaurant next door to help.[/quote]terraco atlantico is my favorite restaurant in the world. it has pretty good food and drinks, then you pick your two legged tart from the bunch that wants you to pick them for the night. unlike inside helpee which is a zoo. i've done real well in sitting at a table in ta.
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MP Balcony etc
[QUOTE=The Watcher]Terraco Atlantico is the restaurant next door to Help.[/QUOTE]Question 1
Speaking about this places. TA, Mabs and Balcony i know (not been at TA tho) but i have seen some write MP what is that.
How are this places TA, Mabs and MP are they good for finding girls or only dinner places.
For example this Mabs what are the girls doing there?
Question 2
Is there more places like Balcony... i like bars with pro-girls im looking for strip-club.
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[QUOTE=Gavazzi]Question 1
Speaking about this places. TA, Mabs and Balcony i know (not been at TA tho) but i have seen some write MP what is that.
How are this places TA, Mabs and MP are they good for finding girls or only dinner places.
For example this Mabs what are the girls doing there?
Question 2
Is there more places like Balcony... i like bars with pro-girls im looking for strip-club.[/QUOTE]
Answer 1
MP = Meia Pataca, the block before Help
Answer 2
I would just start with the places you've already mentioned. You can find them in the general area of TA/Help/MP, just do a little walking around.
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Centaurus, Solarium21, Help.
Centaurus, I knew it is a rip off, I read the forum LOL, but I was curious to see if they have better quality or not.
120 reais to get into, 400 reais 40 minutes, 600 reais 1 hour.
About 20 girls, the same quality as in the other termas. Only two customer and me and my friend, we left after one beer....I am happy I saw it, first and last time in my life.
Solarium21, even if it is a bit more far from copa, but it reminds me, as prices and quality, Montecarlo. I saw almost all the same girls I saw in january.
I spoke too long with a girl and her handjob and french kissing, convinced me to go to bedroom. Anal and bbbj, it was all good, but nothing wonderful, too mechanical, but I do not regret.
Later help and....one of the worst evening, nothing good, the same old faces, some too drunked, some too ugly, almost all girl seem to me tired or not in mood to work.
I start to spoke with a thin tall, great body, average face, after a bit of DFK, she told me....well, my price is 300 reais, but I found a man that gives me 400 reais to go with him, but if you pay me 400 reais, I like you more and I go away with you.
I smiled.....and I start the usual questions....how long time you will stay with me ? She said...till 6:00 am.....it was the 4:11am....I told her, so you think you are gonna to get 400 reais for something as 90 minutes at early morning ?
She no more smiled, she understood I never went to pay her and she stand up and out loud said that.... " you do not like me ! "
We were sitting outside, some persons close to me smiled, others looked to me surprised, as if I said something bad.....I was happy she left, I still neither start to ask if she did bbbj and anal and to work to get her price down, that she showed very well her attitude....
The bad thing here, is that she was one of the best one yesterday....
In one hour I will be there and is even today nothing, I will go to check some boites at prado junior just to see something different.
Lukasek
P.S. Terraco Atlantico is good place to see the girls, ok, I agree, but there I ate the worst sea fruit rice of all my life...imho.
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[QUOTE=Ryjerrob]Answer 1
MP = Meia Pataca, the block before Help
Answer 2
I would just start with the places you've already mentioned. You can find them in the general area of TA/Help/MP, just do a little walking around.[/QUOTE]Ok thanks for the answear. I just wanted to see if there was another like Balcony where they play some music and so. For example mabs feels to much like a restaurante. I will walk/taxi up to MP some day to see how it is.
I like to just observe and talk to the "ladys" on the weekdays. Don't want a girl in the bed 06:00 when I shall go to office So thats why I want some place like balcony.
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[QUOTE=Lukasek]Centaurus, I knew it is a rip off, I read the forum LOL, but I was curious to see if they have better quality or not.
120 reais to get into, 400 reais 40 minutes, 600 reais 1 hour.
About 20 girls, the same quality as in the other termas. Only two customer and me and my friend, we left after one beer....I am happy I saw it, first and last time in my life.
Solarium21, even if it is a bit more far from copa, but it reminds me, as prices and quality, Montecarlo. I saw almost all the same girls I saw in january.
I spoke too long with a girl and her handjob and french kissing, convinced me to go to bedroom. Anal and bbbj, it was all good, but nothing wonderful, too mechanical, but I do not regret.
Later help and....one of the worst evening, nothing good, the same old faces, some too drunked, some too ugly, almost all girl seem to me tired or not in mood to work.
I start to spoke with a thin tall, great body, average face, after a bit of DFK, she told me....well, my price is 300 reais, but I found a man that gives me 400 reais to go with him, but if you pay me 400 reais, I like you more and I go away with you.
I smiled.....and I start the usual questions....how long time you will stay with me ? She said...till 6:00 am.....it was the 4:11am....I told her, so you think you are gonna to get 400 reais for something as 90 minutes at early morning ?
She no more smiled, she understood I never went to pay her and she stand up and out loud said that.... " you do not like me ! "
We were sitting outside, some persons close to me smiled, others looked to me surprised, as if I said something bad.....I was happy she left, I still neither start to ask if she did bbbj and anal and to work to get her price down, that she showed very well her attitude....
The bad thing here, is that she was one of the best one yesterday....
In one hour I will be there and is even today nothing, I will go to check some boites at prado junior just to see something different.
Lukasek
P.S. Terraco Atlantico is good place to see the girls, ok, I agree, but there I ate the worst sea fruit rice of all my life...imho.[/QUOTE]When I was here in nov-dec I think it was about R100 entrance and R250-300 40min if I'm correct. How the h. Ll can they take that price now. Is it for carneval/high season or they just change?
Belive it or not I haven't been in Help yet but I think this weekend I need to go there and see this notorious place it sound quit fun. I guess you have to take it for what it is.
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Lukasek,
The cab driver touting the strip clubs was in all likelihood doing for the propino/tip that he gets for delivering lambs to the slaughter at the mentioned clubs and the dozen or so more venues within a couple of blocks.
Once was more than enough for me.
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Rio Antigo
[QUOTE=Lukasek]Centaurus, I knew it is a rip off, I read the forum LOL, but I was curious to see if they have better quality or not.
120 reais to get into, 400 reais 40 minutes, 600 reais 1 hour.
About 20 girls, the same quality as in the other termas. Only two customer and me and my friend, we left after one beer....I am happy I saw it, first and last time in my life.
Solarium21, even if it is a bit more far from copa, but it reminds me, as prices and quality, Montecarlo. I saw almost all the same girls I saw in january.
I spoke too long with a girl and her handjob and french kissing, convinced me to go to bedroom. Anal and bbbj, it was all good, but nothing wonderful, too mechanical, but I do not regret.
Later help and....one of the worst evening, nothing good, the same old faces, some too drunked, some too ugly, almost all girl seem to me tired or not in mood to work.
I start to spoke with a thin tall, great body, average face, after a bit of DFK, she told me....well, my price is 300 reais, but I found a man that gives me 400 reais to go with him, but if you pay me 400 reais, I like you more and I go away with you.
I smiled.....and I start the usual questions....how long time you will stay with me ? She said...till 6:00 am.....it was the 4:11am....I told her, so you think you are gonna to get 400 reais for something as 90 minutes at early morning ?
She no more smiled, she understood I never went to pay her and she stand up and out loud said that.... " you do not like me ! "
We were sitting outside, some persons close to me smiled, others looked to me surprised, as if I said something bad.....I was happy she left, I still neither start to ask if she did bbbj and anal and to work to get her price down, that she showed very well her attitude....
The bad thing here, is that she was one of the best one yesterday....
In one hour I will be there and is even today nothing, I will go to check some boites at prado junior just to see something different.
Lukasek
P.S. Terraco Atlantico is good place to see the girls, ok, I agree, but there I ate the worst sea fruit rice of all my life...imho.[/QUOTE]Has anyone been to Rio Antigo recently? Are they still open? I have always been curious of this place, it is on Rua Joaquim Silva, 2.
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[QUOTE=Gavazzi]Question 1
Speaking about this places. TA, Mabs and Balcony i know (not been at TA tho) but i have seen some write MP what is that.
How are this places TA, Mabs and MP are they good for finding girls or only dinner places.
For example this Mabs what are the girls doing there?
Question 2
Is there more places like Balcony... i like bars with pro-girls im looking for strip-club.[/QUOTE]Meia pataca. Right next door to the Rio othon palace hotel. Monger central. The quality off women is ordinary. But good place to hang for few drinks in an afternoon, have a meal etc.
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[QUOTE=The Watcher]Terraco Atlantico is the restaurant next door to Help.[/QUOTE]Oh. Ok.
I've been there many times.
Thanks a lot.
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Later help and. One of the worst evening, nothing good, the same old faces, some too drunked, some too ugly, almost all girl seem to me tired or not in mood to work.
I wrote about this here before. Ugly girls everywhere in Help!
Someone here wrote I was wrong. Probably he got lucky.
Good for him!
Hughs
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[QUOTE=Lukasek]Centaurus, I knew it is a rip off, I read the forum LOL, but I was curious to see if they have better quality or not. [/quote]120 reais to get into, 400 reais 40 minutes, 600 reais 1 hour.
I went to L'uomo a few nights ago.
60 reais to get into and super suite (1 hour) 300 reais if I am not wrong.
Good service and nice girls there.
Check it out!
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The truth about luomo....without bullshits....
[QUOTE=Renner]The service in L'uomo is the best in Rio in my opinion.
About the food. L'uomo is a Termas not a restaurant.
One day or another the food can not be the ideal but in a general way, the food in luomo is excellent.
If some guys doesn't like. Just don't go there!
The service and the employees in L'uomo are, by far, the best in Rio.
I recomend everyone to go there.
Big Hugh for all![/QUOTE]
Renner maybe you think here we are all stupid and naive, but your first message in this forum was this I quoted above, writing how is great luomo, so did you registered here only to speak about your terma, right ?
Even today you wrote another great positive message about luomo.
If you are not the owner there, for sure you are a co-owner, so why you do not give us a discount instead to try to get more customers using this forum writing bullshits ?
You wrote almost nothing in your message besides that luomo is the place where we all have to go.
I was there twice this week and 5 times in january and I did not registered here in this forum yesterday or few days ago as you did to promote your own business....so here what I think:
SERVICE:
You write it is the best of all Rio....service is shit at luomo !
Why ? I had more than half glass of beer and the waitress come to my table, he waited that I started again to kiss the girl and he took away my glass.... I stand up, bring his hand with my beer and I asked, what the fuck he was doing. He said, embarassed, that the beer was hot, I ordered it less than couple of minutes before....it was still cold, but poor luomo staff, they have so low business there, that they LITERALLY need to rob your drinks !
Why ? Cause it was not enough to rise the prices of drinks, if you have no customer, or very few of them, you have to do everything to get more money..... This is the great service Renner is speaking about....
Funny enough, once I sit down again, the two men close to me that saw everything, bring their glass too...they were afraid or they were sure it will gonna to happen to everybody.
Later think I went to toilet with my bottle of beer, just to avoid the thief garcon....
FOOD:
If luomo is a terma and not a restaurant, so why there is food ???
To try to impress me positively right ?
The problem is that luomo became such a fucking cheap terma now, that they are too shy to no more give you free buffet......or you will immediately understand, they have big economical problems, so they HAVE to keep on you offering food as before, BUT......ooppss.....the buffet is the 20% the size of january and it is divided in 3 parts: meat that tastes as condoms and hard as wood with so much salt, vegetables that looks old and a sort of soup or potatoes pure, full of salt too.
So it is milion times better terma that has no food at all or 4x4 that you order and pay good food instead of something for free, but very low quality and btw.....the feeling is nobody ate the food there, cause at 22:00 there was still the same quantity of food, so....how old is this food, does it healthy to eat it ???
Cause I am sure, they will no buy new fresh food every day....they have no money there now....
ROBE:
I think robe in Rio is very expensive stuff, something as diamonds or gold in the other countries.....cause many robes at luomo has holes and look old, so old, I would like to use there mine...what do they wait to buy some new ones ? Or should we REALLY dress our robes there ?
GENERALLY
I went there 5 times in january, I liked it, was totally different, now....I spoke with 6 girls, I knew from january, they said during the 4 days of carnival only the first one was good, second one so and so and the last 2 days with almost no business.
They said the staff is no friendly at all with them, they are tired and actually you have 2 of them that come almost every day to help and 2 already left luomo try to guess to which one terma.....do you think the other girls will stay there for long time now?
Even the massage, from 50 till 70 reais, made me smile so much....they are trying to get all the money they can....
No business, it means.....the girls have no good mood to work, they almost are lazy to dance, nervous, they are thinking where to go and no more care about customers and the best ones I saw in january are already gone away.
I apologize with all if I wrote the truth and what I honestly think, as I did here in the last 5 years.....but I do not work for luomo and I have no reason to increase the business of a terma that for me is already dead.
P.S. Renner is a totally non sense to compare prices at luomo with centaurus, compare prices at luomo with 4x4 if you are brave enough !!!
But if you will do it, you will have nothing to write here......
Entrance at 4x4 is 40 reais and 180 reais 40 minute and 200 reais 60 minutes...........so one hour at luomo considering some drinks too, is gonna to cost you something as 200 reais more than at 4x4....do I need to write something more ? If yes....it is my pleasure to do it again....
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I totally agree.
I agree 100% with Lukasek. I was in Rio in Sep 08 and L'uomo was my favorite Terma. I was there almost everyday during my 10 day trip. I visited again in the end of Feb 09, just a couple of weeks ago and It has changed totally for the worse. Shitty food, Bad service and 3 of my favorite girls were gone. Guess what? I never went back. 4X4 is the place to beat in so many respects.
I really liked monte Carlo as well, but only if I didn't want to go to centro. IMO, Monte Carlo is the best Copacabana Terma. They have improved a lot since Sep 08. I didn't really like it back then.
Centaurus is the worst terma, in every regard.
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I just left a bunch of mongers who plan to be in Rio, and they said their experience at L'uomo as the last place they would patronize of the termas.
They said the music is too loud, too smokey, too expensive, and too many girls have flat asses and C- (below average) looks and bodies. A few think the girls are VM girls at Help prices.
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[QUOTE=Jamaicanceo]I just left a bunch of mongers who plan to be in Rio, and they said their experience at L'uomo as the last place they would patronize of the termas.
They said the music is too loud, too smokey, too expensive, and too many girls have flat asses and C- (below average) looks and bodies. A few think the girls are VM girls at Help prices.[/QUOTE]
We obviously have different tastes. I have frequented the main termas in Rio since 2000. L Uomo is my favourite. Last month a spent every evening for a week there.I still find it has the best DJ and the best looking girls in Rio (unless you favour the fat assed mulattas with hairy legs and tattoos that you find at 4x4 or in the centro fast fucks) Sandra, the manageress, hires slimmer girls (for brazilian standards) and they are invited to move on if they put on too much weight. Whether you get what you want with the girls depends to some extent on your attitude. The free food is so so. The bolinhos de bacalhau from the bar menu are excellent. The barman with the tattoos is very good. On the minus side I agree that it is a little smokey. If you are watching your wallet, you should watch how much you drink and how many drinks you buy the girls as bar bills can be hefty ( I averaged 350R per evening) but that applies in any termas. One of the 2 masseuses is good (chubby oldish mulatta) the other one is mediocre.
4x4 is a little cheaper but I find it overcrowded, uncomfortable, too rowdy, too full of local police showing off muscle. The biotipe of the girls is too curvy. In my opinion Montecarlo is the only other termas comparable although I find the girls there too agressive generally. The shower area being the only area where it beats luomo.
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I don't get it
[QUOTE=Jamaicanceo]I just left a bunch of mongers who plan to be in Rio, and they said their experience at L'uomo as the last place they would patronize of the termas.
They said the music is too loud, too smokey, too expensive, and too many girls have flat asses and C- (below average) looks and bodies. A few think the girls are VM girls at Help prices.[/QUOTE]
I have never been to L'uomo but I like loud music, smoke doesn't bother me, I like flat asses but going to a Termas bores me. I used to go to Solarium, Monte Carlo a few times, been to Centaurus twice. 4x4 I first went in 2000 because I met a girl in Help who worked there, she told me the place had 70 girls, so I went and checked it out late afternoon one day, I had fun but since then only went back once. I don't get it, 300 reais for 40 minutes in a room when you can get a girl from Help at 250 reais for all night.
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Luomo.....
....I am happy, many here no more like luomo, it deserves zero business, cause when the owner doesn't know how to stay in business, less customer/immediately more expensive prices, when he doesn't know how to teach the bartenders and when he thinks he can write a fake report here and have all us believing him....so for me the owner deserves to go to work at Mac Donalds with his bartenders too.
I feel a bit sad for the couple of good girls still there, but I am sure, they will soon end to leave luomo as all the best girls already did.
And however.....speak with some brazilians that goes to termas.... they have much worst opinion than me about luomo, no doubt luomo is only the rip off place for gringos.
But if the next week I will go there, I will report as well and I am too curious to see how it will be there, that I can spend the money of entrance to drink half beer LOL.
BTW......... Suddendly, I see......Renner got too shy to answer to my report about luomo....yes, sometimes the truth is not so much comfortable....
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[quote=sangue bon]i have never been to l'uomo but i like loud music, smoke doesn't bother me, i like flat asses but going to a termas bores me. i used to go to solarium, monte carlo a few times, been to centaurus twice. 4x4 i first went in 2000 because i met a girl in help who worked there, she told me the place had 70 girls, so i went and checked it out late afternoon one day, i had fun but since then only went back once. i don't get it, 300 reais for 40 minutes in a room when you can get a girl from help at 250 reais for all night.[/quote]
well , some of us have to get up early in the morning so an all nighter is not on the cards, particularly after a day´s work and a couple of pops in a termas. aside from that , i particularly prefer the safer environment of the termas and the better hygene. additionally, many of the termas customers and some of the tourists (and indeed some of the girls) have someone at home to go back to, so the helpee option is out. money may not be so much of a concern for some people, particularly when we a talking about a couple hundred reais here and there. over the years i have "befriended" several termas girls, so when i travel to rio, i see them outside the termas if i want a sleepover, a weekend in the beach etc
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[QUOTE=Lukasek].
And however.....speak with some brazilians that goes to termas.... they have much worst opinion than me about luomo, no doubt luomo is only the rip off place for gringos.
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Brazilian men do not like L uomo because is full of people like us....gringos.
Gringos are perceived by Brazilian men and GDPs are soft targets. Whereas the average Brazilian who frequents 4x4, will drink nothing but cheapish Skol, spend hours with his mates touching the girls (there is a word for this, "pentelhos"=pubic hair) and only ever so often taking them to a room (where he will insist on hard ball anal), the average gringo will usually drink expensive drinks (and invite the girls!) and will usually go to a room within an hour of arriving to the termas and often with the first girl that approaches him and feels his dick.
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[QUOTE]the average gringo will usually drink expensive drinks (and invite the girls!) and will usually go to a room within an hour of arriving to the termas and often with the first girl that approaches him and feels his dick.[/QUOTE]I must admit, that was me on my first trip.
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Different Strokes
This is one of the oldest and least productive discussions on the board. I completely agree with Sangue Bon's statement here. But I also understand why there are those who like the Termas.
I personally prefer Help. But I go to 4x4 at least once on every trip. Mostly I do it to scout girls that I can meet outside. The right terma is outstanding place to see, be at and hunt for our prey. The uniform pricing sturcture gives a lot of guys comfort. The fact that the girls get frequent medical attention is the biggest plus in my mind. But, I could not make it my primary place to hang because of the uniform pricing structure.
I like the game of negotiation. I like having a girl tell me 600 Reals and then taking her home for 200 Reals. I like to watch the other guys hunt and be hunted. It is a beautiful sight to watch in Help. But because some of the girls there are ugly and foul, I understand why some guys don't like Help.
There was a time when I would read a post from a Terma guy and think, "man that guy has not clue." But now I understand that different guys like different things. I am quite frankly glad that more guys don't like Help because sometimes it gets to be crowed and I can't see all the fine women. But I am sure that the Terma guys wish that more guys like me stay out of the Termas and let them hunt there.
I was at 4x4 last week and it was crowded as hell. That is usually the case when I go and it is frustrating. You can't move. It was a Thursday night and there were very few Americans there. The talent pool was outstanding, as usual. I had a good time but decided not to take a girl. I was there to take a friend who was a first timer. He had a great time.
[QUOTE=Sangue Bon]I have never been to L'uomo but I like loud music, smoke doesn't bother me, I like flat asses but going to a Termas bores me. I used to go to Solarium, Monte Carlo a few times, been to Centaurus twice. 4x4 I first went in 2000 because I met a girl in Help who worked there, she told me the place had 70 girls, so I went and checked it out late afternoon one day, I had fun but since then only went back once. I don't get it, 300 reais for 40 minutes in a room when you can get a girl from Help at 250 reais for all night.[/QUOTE]
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My last two visits (within last 8 months) to MC was quite disappointing. In fact, I did not pull. The facility has deteriorated over the years, and the women were not as friendly from years prior. Man, back in the days, that place was F N hot! In fairness, I will visit the premisies in five days, and report back.
I do plan on going to LM, which has been my fav these past years. Received intel that a couple of my favoritas have left. Am curious to see what the line up is like, now.
Cancun will be on my upcoming tour. I have often walked by the place, however, never been. From what I have read, they seem to have a good selection, with great service. Looking forward to it.
[QUOTE=Sexmachine1]I agree 100% with Lukasek. I was in Rio in Sep 08 and L'uomo was my favorite Terma. I was there almost everyday during my 10 day trip. I visited again in the end of Feb 09, just a couple of weeks ago and It has changed totally for the worse. Shitty food, Bad service and 3 of my favorite girls were gone. Guess what? I never went back. 4X4 is the place to beat in so many respects.
I really liked monte Carlo as well, but only if I didn't want to go to centro. IMO, Monte Carlo is the best Copacabana Terma. They have improved a lot since Sep 08. I didn't really like it back then.
Centaurus is the worst terma, in every regard.
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No kidding. Other than buying the girls expensive drinks I don't see nothing wrong with the other things that us gringos do at termas. Isn't that what we are supposed to do. We don't travel thousands of miles to drink cheap Skol beer, grope girls we could be fucking and occasionally bang one every other visit or so. You can do most of what they do at termas at strip clubs here in the states.
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Why do people still go to Centaurus. I keep reading the same posts about the same bs they pull. I quit going 4 years ago, and now prices are higher with the same ***** that works the front. Quit going.
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I couldn't agree more, I for one can't wait to retire so they can send my pension check to 4X4 so I can live eat and sleep and that's living the life.
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So how in HELL can it be construed as a negative when gringos do it.
STOP reporting this stuff guys.
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There is nothing negative about it imho. The GDPs prefer us to Brazilian men. We spend more and more often. I love the attentiion.
Since you ask so nicely I will stop writing about this stuff. Sorry to offend your sensitivities.
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L'uomo GPguia thread
I looked at the L'uomo thread in GPguia. It's only 3 pages long, starting in Mar 10, 2004. The latest post was on Mar 07, 09. It's mostly positive reviews of the GDP's there. I only found one complaint about higher prices and it catering to gringos. Also one moderated post: some guy stating he's always pessimistic whenever he visits L'uomo.
Nothing posted about the higher prices.
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I'll Take One for The Team.....
So since I'll be arriving on Tuesday morning, the best way to put an end to all this debate is to see for myself. Overall I enjoy Help more then the Termas but that being said, i still like the variety. On my last trip a year ago, 4x4 definitely had the most selection. It also had the biggest crowd and tons of local men. Luomo on the otherhand was much quiter but there was still plenty of talent to be had. By Wed. my plan is to check out 4x4, Luomo, and of course Help. I'll post my reports daily. It's a tough job but someone's got to do it. LOL
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[QUOTE=TJ Fannatic]STOP reporting this stuff guys.
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Who the f*ck set you up to tell people what and what not to report??? When did it become Fanatic´s Forum?
The guy made an honest observation. Feel free to make a different one.
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[QUOTE=Ee2002]No kidding. Other than buying the girls expensive drinks I don't see nothing wrong with the other things that us gringos do at termas. Isn't that what we are supposed to do. We don't travel thousands of miles to drink cheap Skol beer, grope girls we could be fucking and occasionally bang one every other visit or so. You can do most of what they do at termas at strip clubs here in the states.[/QUOTE]
True.
And I think my post may have been misleading as far as the original poster, July Gan. He does not disagree with us. He was making this point, too.
TJ
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Viena - Terrble Beach Dining Experience
It was a beautiful night last night so my girl and I decided we would try one of the beach front restaurants in Copacabana. Big mistake.
First they were out of Caipirinhas (R$6.90) but did have Caipivodkas with either Absolut or Smirnoff (R$12.90).
I ordered baby beef and my date ordered shrimp. The baby beef was not and the shrimp looked liked someone had collected up all the leftovers from the beach vendors and dumped them in a bowl. My date sent them back and the manager substituted some dried up tasteless fish. When the bill came, of course what was charged was the more expensive shrimp.
Just another place in Rio blantly attempting to rip off tourists. A few places get that the way to build a business is to treat your customers with respect. Viena is not one of those.
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Terman 'Don'
Anyone heard of this Termas called 'DON' ? In Centro.
I heard its new but seemingly bar downstairs and robe upstairs.
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[QUOTE=Exec Talent]It was a beautiful night last night so my girl and I decided we would try one of the beach front restaurants in Copacabana. Big mistake.
First they were out of Caipirinhas (R$6.90) but did have Caipivodkas with either Absolut or Smirnoff (R$12.90).
I ordered baby beef and my date ordered shrimp. The baby beef was not and the shrimp looked liked someone had collected up all the leftovers from the beach vendors and dumped them in a bowl. My date sent them back and the manager substituted some dried up tasteless fish. When the bill came, of course what was charged was the more expensive shrimp.
Just another place in Rio blantly attempting to rip off tourists. A few places get that the way to build a business is to treat your customers with respect. Viena is not one of those.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info.
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[QUOTE=Exec Talent]It was a beautiful night last night so my girl and I decided we would try one of the beach front restaurants in Copacabana. Big mistake.
First they were out of Caipirinhas (R$6.90) but did have Caipivodkas with either Absolut or Smirnoff (R$12.90).
I ordered baby beef and my date ordered shrimp. The baby beef was not and the shrimp looked liked someone had collected up all the leftovers from the beach vendors and dumped them in a bowl. My date sent them back and the manager substituted some dried up tasteless fish. When the bill came, of course what was charged was the more expensive shrimp.
Just another place in Rio blantly attempting to rip off tourists. A few places get that the way to build a business is to treat your customers with respect. Viena is not one of those.[/QUOTE]Where is the location off this restaurant?
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[QUOTE=Exec Talent]It was a beautiful night last night so my girl and I decided we would try one of the beach front restaurants in Copacabana. Big mistake.
First they were out of Caipirinhas (R$6.90) but did have Caipivodkas with either Absolut or Smirnoff (R$12.90).
I ordered baby beef and my date ordered shrimp. The baby beef was not and the shrimp looked liked someone had collected up all the leftovers from the beach vendors and dumped them in a bowl. My date sent them back and the manager substituted some dried up tasteless fish. When the bill came, of course what was charged was the more expensive shrimp.
Just another place in Rio blantly attempting to rip off tourists. A few places get that the way to build a business is to treat your customers with respect. Viena is not one of those.[/QUOTE]
Most of the Copacabana beachfront restaurants are pretty bad. The only one that I've found to be consistently good is Don Camilo's. It's the only place in Rio that I've found that has good fried calamari. Granted, this is not the most refined seafood around, but sometimes I just get a craving for it and this is the place to go for for fried calamari in Rio. All the other dishes I've tried at Don Camilo's have also been well prepared.
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quiosques de Copacabana
[QUOTE=JohnnyBraz]Where is the location off this restaurant?[/QUOTE]
Quiosque/restaurant?
[url]http://diariodorio.com/conheca-os-restaurantes-dos-quiosques-de-copacabana/[/url]
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Restaurants
Usually I eat at aipo aipim, comida per kg or at pizzeria capricciosa, pretty expensive considering you eat pizza, but it is the place where in Brazil I eat the best pizza from january till now and yes....if I want to eat good fish, the only one I found has good food it is Marius, the others are pretty bad...imho.
p.s. Marius is really hardly suggested, not expensive, considering you have a very great and big buffet and at least once, it worth to try it.
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Starting Out Sleazy....
So I arrived at 4:45 this morning, so I slept half the day away. Got up around 2 and walked from my apartment in Arapador to Meia Petaxa to check it out. It was early and what was there was not very good quality. So I grabbed a quick bite and walked around a bit. I deceided to check out 583 N.S Copacabana suite 204. Been there on previous trips so I knew what to expect. The boite or what you could call it was sweltering. There were a dozen girls and just one other older brazilian guy in the corner. Needless to say, the gringo gets all the attention. LOL. I was in no mood to sweat my balls off so i picked a cute mulata named Mel. She spoke no English but she was sweet enough. Nice tight body, turns out she was only 18 and no kids which explained it. The rooms there are very dingy. Since it was my first pop in Brazil and I wasn't in the hanging out GFE mood I spent 90 Reals for 20 minutes. I know it was 120 Reals for 30 minutes, not sure about the hour. The sex was good not spectacular. The dingyness of the place really takes away from the overall experience. Of the 12 girls I saw, 1 really hot one, light skinned dark hair maybe an 8. A couple of 6's and 7's and probably half below 5. I'd probably put Mel in the 6.5 to 7 range. Anyway, I'm off and running. Two weeks and 19 bunda's left. Tonight I'm gonna check out Help(Unless it's closed down like it's suppose to have been for the past 3 years.) That's sarcasm. Help is alive and well. Got my internet hooked up so you'll see my posting daily. If any of you mongers want to meet up for a drink, PM me and i'll send you my cell...
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[QUOTE=Ee2002]No kidding. Other than buying the girls expensive drinks I don't see nothing wrong with the other things that us gringos do at termas. Isn't that what we are supposed to do. We don't travel thousands of miles to drink cheap Skol beer, grope girls we could be fucking and occasionally bang one every other visit or so. You can do most of what they do at termas at strip clubs here in the states.[/QUOTE]AMEN!
Most of the Skol-sipping gropers do not session at all. And if a girl wants Red Bull and vodka, so what? No big deal. I like to treat the girls. And I have scored many a freebie as a result of it.
Euro
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A safe place to put your luggage?
Hi,
I will be checking out of my apartment at 11am but my plane doesn't take off until 10pm. Can anyone recommend a safe place to put my luggage while I go to 4x4 or do other activities throughout the day? I'm sure most of you from the US run into this problem.
Please help,
Thanks
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Viena - Kiosk on the Beach
[QUOTE=JohnnyBraz]Where is the location off this restaurant?[/QUOTE]
I probably should have been more specific. Viena (a Brazilian restaurant chain) has one of the newer style Kiosks right on the beach near Siqueira Campos.
[url]http://www.viena.com.br/enderecos.php[/url]
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Rio - always need to be on the alert
After our experience at the Viena Kiosk on the beach, my girl deserved a good meal so I took her to Porcão in Flamengo. The food there is awesome and the restaurant is highly recommended. However at R$75 per person, it is not cheap, so be prepared.
[url]http://www.porcao.com.br/porcaoSite/home/home.php[/url]
We took a taxi there and then back to Copacabana. I didn't notice until we were underway that the taxi did not reset the meter before we left Porcão.
What I always have disliked about Rio is the pervasive mentality of "the gringo has a lot of money so let's get some." You constantly have to be on your guard and it gets tiresome.
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Porcão
[QUOTE=Exec Talent]After our experience at the Viena Kiosk on the beach, my girl deserved a good meal so I took her to Porcão in Flamengo. The food there is awesome and the restaurant is highly recommended. However at R$75 per person, it is not cheap, so be prepared.
[url]http://www.porcao.com.br/porcaoSite/home/home.php[/url]
We took a taxi there and then back to Copacabana. I didn't notice until we were underway that the taxi did not reset the meter before we left Porcão.
What I always have disliked about Rio is the pervasive mentality of "the gringo has a lot of money so let's get some." You constantly have to be on your guard and it gets tiresome.[/QUOTE]Oh I love Porcão they do have great food but I will only take a girl there if she is smoking hot and really deserves it; that place is upper scale living for a GDP. You would also want to make sure your GDP does not look like a GDP because you will find pretty much only regular folk here and it is also a great place to meet very hot non pro girls!
I went there last year with my boys and the food and view of non pro's was great. I did however spot 3 gringos with 3 GDP's and they stuck out like a soar thumb in this place; I could feel the vibe from the locals and they did not like to see that, the girls could have been dressed more appropriate for the environment! A bit more classy than Copa!
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Cancun: Wearing a watch during termas session
Need some opinions please. I sessioned at Termas Cancun during my visit last December. What I didn't like was the garota took me to a cabin and left me there for sometime before she was ready for me to do her. As I laid in the cabin waiting for her, I kept wondering how much of my hour was wasting.
I hate to sound cheap, but when I return to Rio this month, I am definitely going to wear a watch to make sure I get my full time. I've thought about this at other termas, too. When that phone call comes in to call it quits, are we sure we are not being cut short?
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Don't Get Taken...Plus Help tonight
Like Exec said, they're always looking to rip off the gringo tourist. Perfect example. I met 4 guys at Terraco Atlantico tonight before Help. It was there first time there and at about 11 pm they ask the cabbie in front of Help to bring them to an ATM machine. He told them every ATM in that area was closed and it would cost them $40 US round trip to get money. I had left them to go back to my hotel and happened to pull up in my cab while this was going on. I took them in my cab to Citibank which roundtrip was 9.40 Reals. VS the 90 or so the Help Cabbies were trying to get. Let that be a lesson to newbies on the board. Never ever take a cab in front of Help without knowing what the real price should be.
Help is still Help. I thought the talent level was a little below par, but there were still plenty of great looking girls in there. I didn't partake tonight, but only cause I was spent from my late afternoon session. I'll be back tommorrow, guns a blazing....LOL
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[QUOTE=Exec Talent]
What I always have disliked about Rio is the pervasive mentality of "the gringo has a lot of money so let's get some." You constantly have to be on your guard and it gets tiresome.[/QUOTE]
ROFL well this is one of the minor point where we differ, ET. Personally I just adopt a different mentality when in Brasil, particularly Rio. The UK/US to me, by comparison, is a nanny state. We forget to use the basic skills we are born with. Similarly, I look at the kids hanging off the bonde as it climbs next to a cliff and think, ¨If they were from outside S.A., any parent would rightly panic.¨ Of course, both are nice and have their good points and bad points.
My problem with Porcau is that you [i]have[/i] to go by taxi. And although it is top of the heap as far as that type of restaurant is concerned, there is still no telling how long the salads have been sitting or whether they were washed hygeinically. I got an upset stomach yesterday after dining in an upmarket restaurant in Rosario. And this after eating for a week or more on Mimosa food.* When I´m in a posh place my guard goes down (as yours did coming out of Porcau). They remind us of nanny state and we go into ´trust´mode.
btw I think that although there are one or two tolerable (if not exactly good) restaurants on Atlantica, the Rodizio on the side-street from Balcony is not bad at all and competitively priced. I don´t ´have´ a lot of money so I don´t go there often ;). There´s plenty of Cariocas with money - but the gringo is more likely to part with it. ;)
[color=gray][i]*reminds me a bit of the main street on Auckland saturday night - one of the few other countries that does the equivalent of an X-Tudo - burger, cheese, egg, ham, onions, salad, crispies etc for 2R. Except I think the Auckland version has two burgers on the bun and costs a little more. And you have to watch out for stray bottles over the head.[/i][/color]
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[QUOTE=Exec Talent]
[url]http://www.porcao.com.br/porcaoSite/home/home.php[/url]
We took a taxi there and then back to Copacabana. I didn't notice until we were underway that the taxi did not reset the meter before we left Porcão.[/QUOTE]
In the past, Porcão used do have a free shuttle service to and from Copacabana. Not any more?
EA
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Churrascaria
I prefer Churrascaria Palace:
[url]http://www.churrascariapalace.com.br/[/url]
Good location, great food.
I've been regular there for years now and I've always got an excellent service.
Joining their club, you'll get a discount.
Cheaper than Porcao and much better.
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Poor Cows
[QUOTE=Exec Talent]After our experience at the Viena Kiosk on the beach, my girl deserved a good meal so I took her to Porcão in Flamengo.[/QUOTE]
Is this Porcão any better or worse than the one in Ipanema? I would think that it wouldn't be that touristy, i.e. a place where you could do a lot of business ripping off gringos, given the Flamengo location. The one in Ipanema did seem to have a lot of foreign tourists but also a lot of well dressed, attractive upper-class Brazilian women. I would be more on a lookout for a rip-off from a taxi there.
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[QUOTE=One Eyed Man]Is this Porcão any better or worse than the one in Ipanema? I would think that it wouldn't be that touristy, i.e. a place where you could do a lot of business ripping off gringos, given the Flamengo location. The one in Ipanema did seem to have a lot of foreign tourists but also a lot of well dressed, attractive upper-class Brazilian women. I would be more on a lookout for a rip-off from a taxi there.[/QUOTE]
The Porcao Rio is more expensive than the Ipanema branch. Less touristy and far better is Barra Brasa (I particularly like the Leblon branch opposite the new mall) In Centro Pampa Grill is top quality (Almirante Barroso I think) My favourite is the restaurant right by the entrance to the cable car to Pao de Açucar. Beautiful restaurant. Fixed price. Buffet starters, sushi, desserts and order your meat and side dishes a la carte.
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[QUOTE=Musze3000]Oh I love Porcão they do have great food but I will only take a girl there if she is smoking hot and really deserves it; that place is upper scale living for a GDP. You would also want to make sure your GDP does not look like a GDP because you will find pretty much only regular folk here and it is also a great place to meet very hot non pro girls!
I went there last year with my boys and the food and view of non pro's was great. I did however spot 3 gringos with 3 GDP's and they stuck out like a soar thumb in this place; I could feel the vibe from the locals and they did not like to see that, the girls could have been dressed more appropriate for the environment! A bit more classy than Copa![/QUOTE]
Which is why people take their GDPs to Atlantica restaurants lol;)
Most GDPs I know only pretend to relish getting taken to non-gdp restaurants. For a nice day out, take them somewhere like (according to their tastes) Parque Lage (picnics, lazing about with hardly anyone around, fabulous surroundings, ancient villa and small forest with pathways. Jardin Botanico - awesome pathways, walk had in hand for ages blah blah. Pao d´Acucar is either great (if they´ve not been) or so-so if they´ve done it so many times. Their favourite bit of beach is often their idea of a good day out with a client. But to get romantic, Terasopolis is great. Fabulous bus-ride, nice and cool, eat strawberries dipped in chocolate etc.
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NEVER Take A Cab In Front of Help
[QUOTE=Lancer520]Never ever take a cab in front of Help without knowing what the real price should be.
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Even if you know what the real price should be, NEVER take a cab in front of Help.
ALWAYS catch a rolling cab away from Help!
I have heard several horror stories about people who have taken such cabs (e.g. being stopped by the police and having them find drugs planted in the cab by the female). True or not, the risk is not worth taking.
There are signs posted in Help that state never take a cab in front of Help. This is advice that I highly recommend.
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Damn!
[QUOTE=El Austriaco]In the past, Porcão used do have a free shuttle service to and from Copacabana. Not any more?
EA[/QUOTE]
Now you tell me. Actually, I do not know if they do or not. However, I will give them a call tomorrow and find out. The taxi to was R$13 and the taxi back was $18. Back was at band 2, but that did not account for the full difference.
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[QUOTE=Maximus V]Hi,
I will be checking out of my apartment at 11am but my plane doesn't take off until 10pm. Can anyone recommend a safe place to put my luggage while I go to 4x4 or do other activities throughout the day? I'm sure most of you from the US run into this problem.
Please help,
Thanks[/QUOTE]
You can take your luggage right into 4x4 and have them keep it for you. But I do not recommend this. Instead, take luggage to the airport and put it into a locker there. I don't remember how much it costs, but it wasn't very much. Then take the (also very cheap) bus back to centro and monger without having to worry about your bags. (I have written a report on this whole procedure last year. Look for it in the ROD section.)
euro
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The Demise Of Luomo???
I'm gonna make this short because I'm on my way out to Help, but after spending the last four hours at Luomo, the only thing I agree with the recent posters about is the smoke. The place was jumping tonight. I counted over 30 women. Definitely some stunners. There are 2 sister's one named Doris and I didn't get her sister's name that were both smoking. I ended up with Juliana, a brown haired Carioca. Great personality, great performer. My total bill with 4 waters and 2 beers, entrance, 40 minute cabina, and the girl was 300.80 Reals. That's about $125 for 4 hours of quality entertainment. My advise to this board is to each his own. Time for a Luomo+Help double header....
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Taxi in front of help
[QUOTE=The Watcher]Even if you know what the real price should be, NEVER take a cab in front of Help.
ALWAYS catch a rolling cab away from Help!
I have heard several horror stories about people who have taken such cabs (e.g. being stopped by the police and having them find drugs planted in the cab by the female). True or not, the risk is not worth taking.
There are signs posted in Help that state never take a cab in front of Help. This is advice that I highly recommend.[/QUOTE]
I spoke with many and according to my experience the only problem of taxi in front of help, it is the stupid high price.
How can a policeman know if the taxi is one took in front of help or not ? Problem that policeman find drug from the girl inside the taxi you have with 90% girls from help even taking taxi in another street.
Taxi in front of help, ask for fixed 20 reais, that go down immediately to 15 reais to copa or ipanema. Across the street they switch on taximetr and I always paid something as 8-10 reais, so I am gonna to save 1 euro and half, 10 reais VS 15 reais...it seems to me not a big difference.
However I took all the time taxi that switch taximetr but just cause I do not want to feed taxi cocksuckers, not for the difference of price....imho.
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great post!
Good job Lancer520, the best part of this board is when people decide to try things for themselve instead of just listening to the negative stuff that goes on. I have no idea what is going on at Luomo but I did not think it was as bad as some people made it out to be. I wish I was in Rio with you so I could buy you a drink!
[QUOTE=Lancer520]I'm gonna make this short because I'm on my way out to Help, but after spending the last four hours at Luomo, the only thing I agree with the recent posters about is the smoke. The place was jumping tonight. I counted over 30 women. Definitely some stunners. There are 2 sister's one named Doris and I didn't get her sister's name that were both smoking. I ended up with Juliana, a brown haired Carioca. Great personality, great performer. My total bill with 4 waters and 2 beers, entrance, 40 minute cabina, and the girl was 300.80 Reals. That's about $125 for 4 hours of quality entertainment. My advise to this board is to each his own. Time for a Luomo+Help double header....[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Lukasek]I spoke with many and according to my experience the only problem of taxi in front of help, it is the stupid high price.
How can a policeman know if the taxi is one took in front of help or not ? Problem that policeman find drug from the girl inside the taxi you have with 90% girls from help even taking taxi in another street.
Taxi in front of help, ask for fixed 20 reais, that go down immediately to 15 reais to copa or ipanema. Across the street they switch on taximetr and I always paid something as 8-10 reais, so I am gonna to save 1 euro and half, 10 reais VS 15 reais...it seems to me not a big difference.
However I took all the time taxi that switch taximetr but just cause I do not want to feed taxi cocksuckers, not for the difference of price....imho.[/QUOTE]
I normally walk from HELP, I am not advising this for everyone, but if you are use to the mean streets, walking on the streets of COPA is not a big deal.
I also like to walk, just in case I dont have a girl from the club, a peson can always find a girl from HELP, willing to give a bargain now that the club is closed, and I am talking about the girls that try to charge R400 or more inside HELP.
Chris H
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I Can Only Give My Opinion
[QUOTE=Lukasek] I spoke with many and according to my experience the only problem of taxi in front of help, it is the stupid high price..[/QUOTE]
I really do not think that Help would post signs that state do not take taxis in front of Help if the only problem was high price. One example of another problem is when a girl steers you to her favorite taxi driver who then drives you to a secluded area and robs you. I acknowledge that most girls do not do this; however, most girls do not put knock out drops in your drink either but it happens. And it has happened to at least two of my friends; consequently, I never leave my drink unattended or allow any girl to make me a drink. By the same token, I never take a taxi in front of Help.
[QUOTE=Lukasek] How can a policeman know if the taxi is one took in front of help or not ? ..[/QUOTE]
The answer - the police and the girl are working together.
[QUOTE=Lukasek] Problem that policeman find drug from the girl inside the taxi you have with 90% girls from help even taking taxi in another street....[/QUOTE]
Even assuming that is true, the risk is greater if the girl and the police are working together which guarantees a stop by the police.
[QUOTE=Lukasek] Taxi in front of help, ask for fixed 20 reais, that go down immediately to 15 reais to copa or ipanema. Across the street they switch on taximetr and I always paid something as 8-10 reais, so I am gonna to save 1 euro and half, 10 reais VS 15 reais...it seems to me not a big difference.[/QUOTE]
A big difference to me if you get stopped by the police.
[QUOTE=Lukasek] However I took all the time taxi that switch taximetr but just cause I do not want to feed taxi cocksuckers, not for the difference of price....imho.[/QUOTE]
Not taking a taxi in front of Help, for whatever reason, is a wise decision.
In most cases, you probably will not have any trouble with taxis in front of Help; however, for the one time that you do, you will not have a pleasant experience. I try to avoid trouble whenever I can so I avoid those taxis.
I understand that other people have a higher tolerance for risk than I do. Accordingly, I am not trying to tell any one what to do - I am only trying to identify for others what I believe is a risk.
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[QUOTE=Exec Talent]After our experience at the Viena Kiosk on the beach, my girl deserved a good meal so I took her to Porcão in Flamengo. The food there is awesome and the restaurant is highly recommended. However at R$75 per person, it is not cheap, so be prepared.
[url]http://www.porcao.com.br/porcaoSite/home/home.php[/url]
We took a taxi there and then back to Copacabana. I didn't notice until we were underway that the taxi did not reset the meter before we left Porcão.
What I always have disliked about Rio is the pervasive mentality of "the gringo has a lot of money so let's get some." You constantly have to be on your guard and it gets tiresome.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I swear by Porcao!!! That's my spot! I agree if you are with female company the one in Flamengo is the one to go to..... The scenery & etc is appealing to the eye. But, if you have some fellow amigos with you & you are trying to get down to some serious grub??? Ipanema's Porcao is the one to go to.... There service is there to please like A.S.A.P. is 2nd to NONE!!!! They are really just coming with a mass variety of meats constantly!!! Flamengo's seems to get really CROWDED, so the service isn't as fluent as Ipanema's...
Just my 2cents,
Ohp1972
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Restaurant Reviews or Sex
Is this a forum that discusses sex in Brazil?
Or is this a Martha Stewart chatroom for food and restaurants?
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Jamaica
Wear your watch if you want. Why not? If it gives you peace of mind, do it.
Besides, this gives you a good idea of how much time is left in case you want to get to pops.
Before the session, you can check the time, then put it on the little table or in the pocket of your robe.
You can also take your cell phone in the room with you. It has a clock.
Plus its easier to store a girls number right away instead of having her go write it down on a napkin (then you risk forgetting the number in the robe)
Have fun.
[QUOTE=Jamaicanceo]Need some opinions please. I sessioned at Termas Cancun during my visit last December. What I didn't like was the garota took me to a cabin and left me there for sometime before she was ready for me to do her. As I laid in the cabin waiting for her, I kept wondering how much of my hour was wasting.
I hate to sound cheap, but when I return to Rio this month, I am definitely going to wear a watch to make sure I get my full time. I've thought about this at other termas, too. When that phone call comes in to call it quits, are we sure we are not being cut short?[/QUOTE]
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Hooker Beach AKA Othon Palace
After spending two days out in front of Othon, this is one area that I think has seen a dramatic decline in the talent level. There were probably about forty or so working girls out there and of that, I'd only say a handful were even doable. It seems like most of the girls out there are Morenos and that's not my cup of tea but to each his own of course. And one other thing that I am not a fan of that all the girls seem to have now are tatoos. I don't mind the little one's here and there or even the "Tramp Stamp". For those of you who do not know what that is, it's a tatoo on the small of the back(ocassionally used for target practice LOL). But these girls are inking up their shoulders, their backs, and everywhere in between. Oh well. Off to Monte Carlo to check out the scene....
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[QUOTE=Jamaicanceo]Is this a forum that discusses sex in Brazil?
Or is this a Martha Stewart chatroom for food and restaurants?[/QUOTE]
Definitely food and restaurants, with subthreads on tattooes. Check the other threads for sex.
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[QUOTE=Chris H]I normally walk from HELP, I am not advising this for everyone, but if you are use to the mean streets, walking on the streets of COPA is not a big deal.
I also like to walk, just in case I dont have a girl from the club, a peson can always find a girl from HELP, willing to give a bargain now that the club is closed, and I am talking about the girls that try to charge R400 or more inside HELP.
Chris H[/QUOTE]
Yeah - I was gonna get a taxi last night. But by the time I´d avoided the meter-less ones outside I´d got to NS Copa and a bus was approaching. (All genuine taxis put the meter on when you get in - don´t give a destination until the meter goes on).
My girl (from Balcony) asked for taxi money on top of the crisp reis notes kept freshly ironed for the purpose of paying her. I knew exactly where she lived and suggested she got a bus. She said she couldn´t walk in these shoes. I pointed out the distance she would have to walk was exactly the same for bus and taxi. She said they wouldn´t have change (true).
So I gave her R2.20 in coins :)
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Does anyone know.......
Since we are on the topic of edible items........does anyone know where I can find a good ice cream shop? :)
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[QUOTE=Christopherd] So I gave her R2.20 in coins :)[/QUOTE]Now that's what I call a man with his mind on his money and not letting pussy rule his mind. LMAO. Nice compromise Christopherd.
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[QUOTE=Mangera]Since we are on the topic of edible items........does anyone know where I can find a good ice cream shop? :)[/QUOTE]
Mil Frutas, branches in Ipanema (the fancy street with the luxury shops that the GDPs love, name escapes me now and also at Leblon Shopping mall (top floor) Sorvete Italia also good, branches everywhere (try brownie with doce de leite)
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583 Again!!!
So I decided since my wingman is arriving tomorrow and it's gonna be a very expensive couple days in the termas, I went back to 583 NS Copacabana 204. This time the place was crowded with local guys, maybe 10 or 15 and the same 10 to 15 girls. Those of you that know the place know that in that small room, that's a lot of people, and I was the only non braziliano. Wanted to sesion with the one hot girl I saw there on my first visit but she was too busy entertaining the local folk. Went back for a repeat with Mel. I'm starting to think 90 Reals for 20 minutes in these dirty cabinas is a bit much but I still deceided to partake. Another quick good session with Mel. Even though I am a semi Rio regular, for the first time, I got a gdp to pose for a picture face and all. I think it's cause she's only 18 and new to the biz. LOL. I will post when I get home. I also bought a cannon Elph so it's easy to carry around unlike my last powershot. We'll see what tonight brings...
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I have to admit, I thought 90R for 20 minutes was a misprint. But it does seem kinda expensive.
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"Milena" from Monte Carlo
The recent comment about tattoos reminded me of this Monte Carlo GdP I sessioned with back in late May of last year.
She went by the name of "Milena." I usually don't go for the tattooed chicks at all, and in fact, I might not have chosen her if the first thing I had noticed was her tattoo on her back, but it was completely hidden by her very long hair. Even when she danced in front of me and showed off her bunda, I didn't notice it, although I guess my attention was distracted by something else, LOL! :)
But once inside the cabine, I discovered her "secret" yet I was actually quite impressed by this one. A chinese style dragon tattoo covering almost her entire back, with a level of color and detail that looked like it was done by someone with some skill or artistry. She said it took a month of weekly visits to complete, each visit taking 5-6 hours.
Again, I'm usually turned off by tattoos, but I have to admit, I enjoyed banging her doggy style while pulling her hair and admiring her tattoo. She was pretty good in the sack, at least for my taste, had no problem showing off her deep throat skills which I indicated with a polite request while pulling her head in. ;)
After I popped and rested and talked shop with her for a few minutes, she demonstrated a solid work ethic by giving me a 2nd BBBJ (unasked) right up till the phone rang.
She claims she doesn't do anal and she has silicone boobs (but not too big like on many Colombianas) so she may not be your spoon of jism. But for me, I'll grade her an A-.
I would recommend her. Was curious if anyone else out there in mongerland has hooked up with this chick? Maybe she's out of the biz already? She told me she owns and works in a woman's hair salon.
Don't know if that's true but for me the lesson of this experience was "never say never" even when it comes to tattoos!
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Ever vigilant
Stopped by Termas 502 last night. The bar area looks like a street in Copa - litter everywhere. The women seemed to be either horrendous or gorgeous, not much in between. After fending off a couple of the horrendous ones, I got the attention of two gorgeous girls - Camila (used to be at 4x4) and Nanda. Couldn't decide between the two of them so I took both. R$185 a piece for the hour (total - R$370).
It was a great time. The girls were not into each other (which they had told me upfront). Highly recommend both.
Now the bad: Before I agreed to go to the room with the girls, I stopped by the front desk to make sure I understood the charges. I always make them write it down. When I get to the suite with the girls, it is nothing like described and actually is a cabine. While the girls are getting changed I returned to the check-in desk and asked for another room.
OK. Time to go and pay the bar tab (I had paid for the girls before going to the room). Bar tab was wrong and then she gives me the wrong change. I know, Brazilians have a hard time with math.
From 502 I next went to Cancun. Stopped by the Whiskeria to have the best misto quente in Rio, a Caipirinha (also very good) and Nubia. Nubia works out and it shows. She has a killer body. Without asking she told me she does everything. This time there was no getting over on the gringo. She delivered as promised.
I like the Whiskeria in Cancun. The music is never too loud, food and drinks are good, they get a nice respectful business crowd, there was a totally nude strip show and a number of hot girls.
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any updates?
[QUOTE=RexG]I have just completed my Rio visit and wanted to post some info about some doable freelance escorts[/QUOTE]This is such a beautiful and helpful post. RexG, you seem to have just my taste. Any luck of providing an update?
Thanks
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[QUOTE=Exec Talent]Stopped by Termas 502 last night. The bar area looks like a street in Copa - litter everywhere. The women seemed to be either horrendous or gorgeous, not much in between. After fending off a couple of the horrendous ones, I got the attention of two gorgeous girls - Camila (used to be at 4x4) and Nanda. Couldn't decide between the two of them so I took both. R$185 a piece for the hour (total - R$370).
It was a great time. The girls were not into each other (which they had told me upfront). Highly recommend both.
Now the bad: Before I agreed to go to the room with the girls, I stopped by the front desk to make sure I understood the charges. I always make them write it down. When I get to the suite with the girls, it is nothing like described and actually is a cabine. While the girls are getting changed I returned to the check-in desk and asked for another room.
OK. Time to go and pay the bar tab (I had paid for the girls before going to the room). Bar tab was wrong and then she gives me the wrong change. I know, Brazilians have a hard time with math.
From 502 I next went to Cancun. Stopped by the Whiskeria to have the best misto quente in Rio, a Caipirinha (also very good) and Nubia. Nubia works out and it shows. She has a killer body. Without asking she told me she does everything. This time there was no getting over on the gringo. She delivered as promised.
I like the Whiskeria in Cancun. The music is never too loud, food and drinks are good, they get a nice respectful business crowd, there was a totally nude strip show and a number of hot girls.[/QUOTE]I liked Cancun too. I did it on my December 2008 trip. I plan to visit again in 2 weeks. I got there when it opened and it was slow. I should have waited, because it later picked up with some BBGs.
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VM - road changes - buses etc
They´ve finally finished the roadworks where there used to be a bridge at the end of Rua Ceara* onto Francisco Eugenio. Apart from making this area a bit safer it means you can, if you want, take one of the circlar buses which will now drop you practically on the doorstep of Mimosa. Just if you stay in the Siquera Campos area really, or Ipanema. 462/463 from/to SQ and 461 for Ipanema. It is not, however, the most salubrious of bus routes. Unlike the main highway buses like 455 (which can be very fast) or the Lapa 464 bus, it goes through the grubbier of tunnels - have seen one attempted hold-up there where kids ran head-on at the bus. Less far to walk if it rains tho.
Last night there was a good pagode band in the last show-alley. Unfortunately their staying power wasn´t quite as enduring as Rio rain. It was well after midnight when buses are less frequent so I got a taxi from Praca Bandeira (if you get it from the far side of the Praca it is cheaper as they don´t have to do a switchback). About 18R back to Copa at night. When I got back there was a wrecked bus outside the apartment on Isabel. Had somehow swivelled round in the rain before the bend into B.R. and taken out some of the wall too. One thing about taxis you can always tell them to go slower in the wet (as I did). When I got there there was no sign of whatever vehicle it had written off. The bus was facing into the traffic - only damage was it´s front engine section.
*for newbies, Rua Ceara is the road you take from Praca Bandeira under the bridges and past the Carcaras heavy metal club before turning right into Mimosa. If you walk across the rail tracks you´ve gone too far.
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[QUOTE=Exec Talent]Stopped by Termas 502 last night...R$185 a piece for the hour (total - R$370).
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I once went to 502 in 2007 and so far it was by far my worst terma experience ever but it was dirt cheap. I paid at the time for one hour and drinks about R$120. Based on your post, it has gone to R$185???? That's quite a jump in 2 years!
I was in Rio over Carnaval for 10 days, went almost most nights to either Monte Carlo or L'uomo (twice). Had good times in both. Specially liked Monte Carlo for the better quality service there. For those visiting frequently, make sure you sign up for the frequent visitor programme they have whereby they accumulate your spendings and after R$500 reais spent, the next visit, they wave your entrance. No big deal, but its nice as you can get to use that $ for "free" drinks. Also, worth mentionning, they guy at the reception, Luis that speaks perfect English is a true asset to the place, very helpful, uber professional and cool as hell as well. After going there so many nights, me and my buddy got a free Monte Carlo T-shirt!:D
Lancer, you mention 583 NS Copacabana 204, went there twice, once it was closed as it was sunday of Carnaval and the 2nd time we went, only saw very low quality women, so low that we must have spent there no more than 10 seconds to take an overall look before exiting the place as fast as possible that we didn't even bother inquiring about pricing.
When I will get the time, I will post a complete report of my time in Rio as this was a very mongering oriented trip. Monte Carlo or L'uomo almost every night plus afterwards, Help as I was staying next door at the Rio Othon Palace. I didn't get into help but rather sat outside with 2-3 buddies chatting with girls and just watching the zoo and the free great entertainment that is just watching the scene.
Little off topic: since the topic turned into food, a good churrascaria in Ipanema and Copa is the Carretao chain, pretty good and cheap (35 reais). Good service and food. My favorite restaurant on Avenida Atlantica ever sinec my first visit in Rio in 2005 has been Deck right on Siqueira Campos and Av. Atlantica. Good service and a good selection. Also, worth mentionning, on Siqueira Campos, on the way to L'uomo, there is a good rodizio restaurant, upscale very local, called Blue Grill or something. Good food and good service and reasonable pricing.
I already am with big time saudades for a good caipirinha, suco de açai, and the finger foods they have at every padaria or suco bar. Plus of course the gorgeous weather, the beach, the samba, the futebol and the women. Can't wait to be back in Brasil!
Salve o Rio de Janeiro. Salve o Brasil!
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I was at 502 last week, a 1 hour session in a cabin is 130R, plus the 20R entrance fee (for a total of 150R). Now if you get the suite with the jacuzzi, then I think its 160R, plus the 20R entrance fee.
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Terma 502
That brings back memories of a great time I had.
I was in the cabine with a garota gettin busy. All of the sudden the door opens and some other girl walks in naked and takes a shower. She is watching the action as she showers and then leaves. a few minutes later she comes back in and joins in the fun. It was great and surprising. I do not think that would have happened for me anywhere else in the world.
GDPS from brazil love sex!!!
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Curious.
[QUOTE=Bravo]I was at 502 last week, a 1 hour session in a cabin is 130R, plus the 20R entrance fee (for a total of 150R). Now if you get the suite with the jacuzzi, then I think its 160R, plus the 20R entrance fee.[/QUOTE]
I think I have been there before. If I am not mistaken, this termas does not have robes. Also, one has to walk up this long stairway where the counter to pay is located? Location of entrance is a few feet away from Rio Branco?
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How to use a bus (onibus)
i travel on buses daily when i´m here - out of choice, not financial circumstances. the advantages imo are considerable. i hope this doesn´t sound like i´m telling anyone how to tie shoelaces, but i realise many people don´t come from a bus culture (or at least a bus culture like the rio one) and may find them a bit intimidating. so here´s a quick guide on ´how to use an onibus ´.
*have small bills or coins on you. change is given but a twenty or larger is likely to be refused and you´ll have to get off. using buses is one of the quickesy ways to faliiarise yourself with the coins of brasil.
*flag down the bus with a straight arm commanding gesture. most stops are request stops. anywhere else the bus can conveniently stop is also a request stop. for instance, on isabel, the vm buses are split between two stops, so you have to be ready to flag the one you want. if a bus has stopped at traffic lights or is in a traffic jam, just knock the door to indicate you want to get on (which you should do quickly - it won´t hang about).
*the fare is displayed on the front windscreen. other useful info is also on the front - final destination, whether the bus is ´aterro´ (express), the route number, and often a board with some of the intermediate destinations. the standard fare is r2.20. air-con buses vary in price and are a bit more - usually 2.50 or 2.70. buses to the distant outskirts may be more. metro buses have their own rules but are quite posh.
*get on at the front of the bus. unless you are a hawker, small child, or someone else that doesn´t intend to pay.
*pay at the turnstile (reasonable amounts of small change given). if there´s no conductor at the turnstile, pay the driver. he can multitask and work out your change while racing other buses at high speed, cornering, filling in his timesheet, eating his lunch and so on.
*sit down and look blank (lol!) rather than having the expression of a schoolboy having a remarkable new experience. this requires concentration on your first trip. rio buses accelerate, brake and turn at high speed rather like a fairground ride and you need to hold on firmly. some wit said that if you missed your morning workout, just get a bus.
*ring the bell in plenty of time. there´s a cord or some buttons for this purpose. bearing in mind the speed of the bus, don´t leave it till the last minute. (for vm, as soon as it hits a flyover). within reason, the driver may let you off where you want if you catch his eye in the mirror. useful for traffic jams, when you want off between stops etc.
*get off at the 2nd door - usually at the rear, sometimes at the middle. if the doors stick, just give them a pull.
[i]standard etiquette[/i]
*throw the driver an ´obrigado´ if he´s made a special stop for you.
*seats are always offered to the elderly, pregnant women etc.
*if someone is standing and carrying bags, they may ask you to hold them on your lap. they would do the same fot you when the situation is reversed.
[i]get to know the routes[/i]
unlike taxis, buses always go the same way. you will soon start to get to know rio, landmarks, which termas are walking distance from each other, shortcuts, where the metro stops are. you are sitting higher up than in a taxi, without distractions. you can see a lot.
anyone should be able to use a bus to get to centro or vm without a problem. if you want to become more fully acquainted with what bus goes where, pick up a copy of ruas which is a user-friendly a-z with all the routes marked and listed (as well as things like street-numbers - very handy for finding a place on a long street like ns copa).
to centro many centro buses are marked ´centro´ (surprise, surprise, haha). then there´s ones that more or less have to go through some part of centro/lapa like those marked ´rodoviaria. your centro bus, unless it goes via lapa, will stop either on rua de narci, dropping you off a few yards from four x four, or else in the underpass across from praca xv where the boats go to niteroi. from the underpass, it´s only a few yards walk across the praca. coming back, head for rio branco and look for a bus with ´copacabana´on it - simple. remember if you get an aterro bus it will be a lot quicker - it won´t stop at all the little stops in flamengo and gloria and so on into town. if you end up in lapa (look out for the arches) remember centro is only about a hundred yards away.
see my post yesterday for buses to vm.
[i]safety[/i]
they are occasional reports of hold-ups. but in a city the size of rio it´s a drop in the ocean. an attempted hold-up might work like this (only one i´ve personally witnessed): about a dozen kids, probably armed, run full tilt directly into the path of the bus in a v shape. the idea is to make th ebus stop or veer. drivers are used tyo this and usually just accelerate (no kids killed at the one i witnessed). then there´s crashes. look at a road crash taxi and a road crash bus - which would you prefer to have been in? muggings on buses: i´ve never witnessed oine but it could happen. most of the buses you will use are major commuter routes though (you mix with a wide cross-section of people on the buses) and are pretty secure. most new buses have security cameras.
btw if your dictionary calls a bus an autocarro it´s wrong. a bus here is an onibus!!
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Rio Trip - Termas
Here is my take on the termas. I really enjoyed them. My first stop was Luomo. I think I was kind of spoiled by this. Literally 4 hrs after landing I head over to Luomo and the first terma girl I sit next to is a real stunner, just my type. Everyone has different types I have realized. For me I prefer the skinner, super tight ass and smaller breasts. Her name was Nanda. Within 5 minutes we are kissing. She was probably the best kisser of the whole trip. After I gave her my key and she came back in her black robe barley covering her tiny ass I almost lost it. She was like a piece of art. She was my first Terma girl ever. I think I will always remember her.
Looking back compared to other girls on the trip she probably could have been more passionate on certain parts of the act but her amazing kissing and knockout body just mesmerized me. Damn I wish I could speak Portuguese. That was the constant frustration on the trip. After we are done I am hanging out at the bar and she comes by and says Hello, and I buy her a red bull. I know some people say they just try to scam guys for drinks but I really didn’t feel pressure and if there was one girl I would buy a drink from it was going to be her. She then proceeds to dance in front of me and grind for 15 minutes or so and I am basically ready to go again. I seriously thought at this pt about going right back with her and seeing it got even better but I thought it’s my first night here why rush it. What a mistake. 2 days later I return to Luomo and everyone says she just quit and changed her numbers so no one can reach her. Damn that killed me. My advice if you see a real stunner and you have a good connection with don’t wait for later do whatever you want that day. You never know if you will see her again. If anyone checks out Luomo ask for Nanda and if she is working again please let me know?
I went to luomo 3 times I think so ended up seeing a bunch of girls there. Ruby is a tall skinny white girl with a super tiny ass. Problem is she probably kisses the least of any girl on the trip. She makes up for it with a ton of eye contact though the mirror when you are doing it. It seemed like every girl had their quality and with her I just had to focus on that I was banging one the best bodies I have ever had in my life.
Luomo was probably the friendliest terma. Great facilities and overall good experience. It seems hit or miss, someday lots of girls other days not so many. I found this to be true of a lot of places here.
Next checked out Solarium. Really tiny and cramped main bar area. Went once on Sunday and there were only 4 girls then went 2 days later and it was so packed there was no where to sit. Overall girls tended to be bigger than I would like but always 1-2 thinner girls I like. Seemed to be a lot of local guys just hanging out getting drunk. I never got a girl here but my friend did and said it was good.
The showers and facilities were not as nice as at Luomo.
Next went to Monte Carlo. I had heard bad things about the mgmt here and true to form the manager seemed the most pushy and annoying. The day I went it just seem overrun with giant huge Amazon types that were also super aggressive. I had to fend off girls for the first 30 minutes. Next time I won’t be so shy and will just take advantage of this more. On this trip I was just worried about getting stuck with girls I didn’t like. As the trip went on though I ended up kissing and groping numerous girls that I didn’t take upstairs. Never seemed to be an issue and most girls seem to have fun with it, especially since I was never the aggressor.
There was one girl at Monte Carlo that was my type but she had a little cough and just made me nervous. Didn’t wasn’t to be knocked out for the rest of the trip. So left empty handed. I probably kissed over 50 girls on the trip and only had a sore throat for a couple days. As a side note I pounded vitamin C every day and had an Acai drink every day as well. (side side note, when asking for Acai at the corner stands make sure to ask for little or no sugar added. Otherwise they load it up with sugar and you might as well be drinking a can of coke in the morning).
Next went to the infamous Centarious. It’s been said hundred times but I will add to it. Man this place is overrated. The facilities are worse than several of the other cheaper terms and the staff is not friendly at all. I was shocked to see some of the girls working there. The only endearing quality seemed to be that if you wanted a 3 way there seem to be ample teams available. The girls were really pushy here as well.
I ended up with this tall skinny girl. I forget her name but she has a younger sister working there as well and they work as a team often. She had blonde hair. Amazing kisser and just knockout body. One of those girls that actually looks better naked. Just great moves and super passionate.
4x4: This place is like walking into a Vegas frat party. Few places to sit and wall to wall guys and girls mixing it up. Not the relaxing atmosphere of Luomo. More of a primal feel. Again there are a ton of giant huge Amazon type girls. I guess the local guys prefer this. To each his own I guess. There are always a few smaller skinny light skinned girls. Went here for my last session before leaving. I had Sayori, who is half Japanese. Just off the charts GFE, passionate kisser. Wow I was so happy she was the last one. Left me with great memories.
Cancun: Nice facilities, still not as good as Luomo in my opinion. Just not that many girls the day I was here. I had my first dark black girl here. Really cute and nice just nothing special about it. My friend had this super skinny white girl that said was great. Worth checking out but doesn’t seemed to have that many girls.
Overall the terma experience was great. I felt like it was being in a strip cub but you could actually make out with and talk with any girl there. The carefree attitude of the girls made it very relaxed. These locals don’t realize how good they have it.
I thought there was more impromtu dancing at Luomo. Sometimes 5-6 girls just shaking it which is a site to behold.
Help
Went to Help a couple nights but had to use a short term hotel because of my hotel situation. Definitely a different feel than the termas. I think it’s more hit or miss. You can get something even better or you can strike out. Higher risk but potentially higher reward as well.
I’ll add any other thoughts that come to mine as I unpack.
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4x4
So because of the thunderstorm we had last night, we lost all cable, internet, and phone service in our building. So I´m posting from an internet cafe. My wingman made it to town yesterday morning so we decided to hop the metro and hit 4x4. First let me say it was my first time on the metro and it is a cheap, safe, and the easiest way to get to the downtown termas. So we hit 4x4 at about 4pm. The place is off the charts. There must be 100+ girls working at one time. It was completely packed. Lots of Brazilian guys but also a few American regulars I´ve befriended on the Terma circuit. My wingman went right for a cute blonde named Cindy and said she was outstanding. I hung out for a couple hours before I decided on a little brunette spinner named Dominique. She was about 4´10 without her heals on with a great ass and a nice C cup. She gave me without a doubt the best BBBJ I´ve ever had. I lasted all of about ten minutes and thought I wasn´t gonna make it to the sex part. Took the cabine for the full hour and after playing around for a bit she got back to work. These girls at 4x4 more so then any other girls aim to please. I repaid the favor to her and then she asked me to take her from behind(Which being the gentleman that I am, obliged willingly. LOL). We got into one of the steamiest sessions I´ve had down here in 4 trips. The phone rings and speaking from the little head, I just said fuck it, tell em another 40 minutes. By the time I was done, I probably sweated off five lbs. By far the best kind of workout. Finally she was begging for me to finish in her mouth which again I oblidged. I came out of the room at about 9 o clock weaked kneed and in a daze. I was sitting in front of the front desk talking to a guy from Cali and my best word to describe that place is devistating. LOL. In as good a way as possible. Any kind of women you want is available at 4x4. Big bunda, small bunda, blonde, brunette, even Asian. Tall, short. This place has it all. I´m suppose to go out with Dominique tonight but with her knowing no English and me knowing no portugese, I think Im gonna pass. We´re going to actually do Help tonight. We´ll see what tonight brings.
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Irish Pub????
Does anyone know of a good Irish Pub to celebrate my 1/8th Irish heritage in either Copa or Ipanema??? LOL
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[QUOTE=Lancer520]Does anyone know of a good Irish Pub to celebrate my 1/8th Irish heritage in either Copa or Ipanema??? LOL[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.shenanigans.com.br/[/url] The place will be crowded, maybe 3 deep at the bar.
There is also another place across the street called The Irish Pub, that will be crowded too.
You can also try Lord Jims in Ipanema [url]http://www.lordjimpub.com.br/[/url]
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[QUOTE=Pipe Layer99]Wear your watch if you want. Why not? If it gives you peace of mind, do it.
Besides, this gives you a good idea of how much time is left in case you want to get to pops.
Before the session, you can check the time, then put it on the little table or in the pocket of your robe.
You can also take your cell phone in the room with you. It has a clock.
Plus its easier to store a girls number right away instead of having her go write it down on a napkin (then you risk forgetting the number in the robe)
Have fun.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the reply!
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Erin Go Bragh
[QUOTE=Lancer520]Does anyone know of a good Irish Pub to celebrate my 1/8th Irish heritage in either Copa or Ipanema??? LOL[/QUOTE]
Trythese:
[url]www.shenanigans.com.br[/url]
The Irish Pub
Rua Jangadeiros, 14 A - Ipanema
Rio de Janeiro, Brazil
(21) 2513-3044
Directions: near Gen. Osório park
[url]http://www.google.com.br/maps?q=http://www.obaoba.com.br/irish-[/url]
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[QUOTE=Bartonsky]Here is my take on the termas. I really enjoyed them. My first stop was Luomo. I think I was kind of spoiled by this. Literally 4 hrs after landing I head over to Luomo and the first terma girl I sit next to is a real stunner, just my type. Everyone has different types I have realized. For me I prefer the skinner, super tight ass and smaller breasts. Her name was Nanda. Within 5 minutes we are kissing. She was probably the best kisser of the whole trip. After I gave her my key and she came back in her black robe barley covering her tiny ass I almost lost it. She was like a piece of art. She was my first Terma girl ever. I think I will always remember her.
Looking back compared to other girls on the trip she probably could have been more passionate on certain parts of the act but her amazing kissing and knockout body just mesmerized me. Damn I wish I could speak Portuguese. That was the constant frustration on the trip. After we are done I am hanging out at the bar and she comes by and says Hello, and I buy her a red bull. I know some people say they just try to scam guys for drinks but I really didn’t feel pressure and if there was one girl I would buy a drink from it was going to be her. She then proceeds to dance in front of me and grind for 15 minutes or so and I am basically ready to go again. I seriously thought at this pt about going right back with her and seeing it got even better but I thought it’s my first night here why rush it. What a mistake. 2 days later I return to Luomo and everyone says she just quit and changed her numbers so no one can reach her. Damn that killed me. My advice if you see a real stunner and you have a good connection with don’t wait for later do whatever you want that day. You never know if you will see her again. If anyone checks out Luomo ask for Nanda and if she is working again please let me know?
I went to luomo 3 times I think so ended up seeing a bunch of girls there. Ruby is a tall skinny white girl with a super tiny ass. Problem is she probably kisses the least of any girl on the trip. She makes up for it with a ton of eye contact though the mirror when you are doing it. It seemed like every girl had their quality and with her I just had to focus on that I was banging one the best bodies I have ever had in my life.
Luomo was probably the friendliest terma. Great facilities and overall good experience. It seems hit or miss, someday lots of girls other days not so many. I found this to be true of a lot of places here.
Next checked out Solarium. Really tiny and cramped main bar area. Went once on Sunday and there were only 4 girls then went 2 days later and it was so packed there was no where to sit. Overall girls tended to be bigger than I would like but always 1-2 thinner girls I like. Seemed to be a lot of local guys just hanging out getting drunk. I never got a girl here but my friend did and said it was good.
The showers and facilities were not as nice as at Luomo.
Next went to Monte Carlo. I had heard bad things about the mgmt here and true to form the manager seemed the most pushy and annoying. The day I went it just seem overrun with giant huge Amazon types that were also super aggressive. I had to fend off girls for the first 30 minutes. Next time I won’t be so shy and will just take advantage of this more. On this trip I was just worried about getting stuck with girls I didn’t like. As the trip went on though I ended up kissing and groping numerous girls that I didn’t take upstairs. Never seemed to be an issue and most girls seem to have fun with it, especially since I was never the aggressor.
There was one girl at Monte Carlo that was my type but she had a little cough and just made me nervous. Didn’t wasn’t to be knocked out for the rest of the trip. So left empty handed. I probably kissed over 50 girls on the trip and only had a sore throat for a couple days. As a side note I pounded vitamin C every day and had an Acai drink every day as well. (side side note, when asking for Acai at the corner stands make sure to ask for little or no sugar added. Otherwise they load it up with sugar and you might as well be drinking a can of coke in the morning).
Next went to the infamous Centarious. It’s been said hundred times but I will add to it. Man this place is overrated. The facilities are worse than several of the other cheaper terms and the staff is not friendly at all. I was shocked to see some of the girls working there. The only endearing quality seemed to be that if you wanted a 3 way there seem to be ample teams available. The girls were really pushy here as well.
I ended up with this tall skinny girl. I forget her name but she has a younger sister working there as well and they work as a team often. She had blonde hair. Amazing kisser and just knockout body. One of those girls that actually looks better naked. Just great moves and super passionate.
4x4: This place is like walking into a Vegas frat party. Few places to sit and wall to wall guys and girls mixing it up. Not the relaxing atmosphere of Luomo. More of a primal feel. Again there are a ton of giant huge Amazon type girls. I guess the local guys prefer this. To each his own I guess. There are always a few smaller skinny light skinned girls. Went here for my last session before leaving. I had Sayori, who is half Japanese. Just off the charts GFE, passionate kisser. Wow I was so happy she was the last one. Left me with great memories.
Cancun: Nice facilities, still not as good as Luomo in my opinion. Just not that many girls the day I was here. I had my first dark black girl here. Really cute and nice just nothing special about it. My friend had this super skinny white girl that said was great. Worth checking out but doesn’t seemed to have that many girls.
Overall the terma experience was great. I felt like it was being in a strip cub but you could actually make out with and talk with any girl there. The carefree attitude of the girls made it very relaxed. These locals don’t realize how good they have it.
I thought there was more impromtu dancing at Luomo. Sometimes 5-6 girls just shaking it which is a site to behold.
Help
Went to Help a couple nights but had to use a short term hotel because of my hotel situation. Definitely a different feel than the termas. I think it’s more hit or miss. You can get something even better or you can strike out. Higher risk but potentially higher reward as well.
I’ll add any other thoughts that come to mine as I unpack.
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I agree with a lot of your opinions on the termas. I for one, like Luomo but like you said, they could all be hit or miss. I was in there on sunday night and the vibe was totally different and a lot more chill then Friday. Also not half as many girls. I prefered the friday night thing much better. I checked out Cancun yesterday and I was thouroughly dissapointed. There were about 30 girls, most of which were those big Amazonian types you spoke of and really super aggresive. There were only about 6 guys and we were the only Americans, which made us even more of a target. I had had a morning session with my Help girl from the previous night and was still exausted so I decided not to partake. That was my first time in a terma coming out empty handed. Have lots of reports to write up when I get home and on the recomendations of the board, I'm off to The Irish Pub and Shennanigan's. Thanks for all the suggestions.
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St Patty's Day in Rio
So I went to check out both Irish bars in Ipanema. Shennanigan's doesn't open till 4 pm so that was out so we went to The Irish Pub. Met Padrick the owner. Really nice guy who's been in Rio for 11 years. It was pretty quiet but they were starting to decorate with tons of baloons. He sais around 7:30 it will be packed. Had 3 great pints of Guiness. Nice change from Skol. Looks like maybe it will be an Irish Pub, Luomo, Help night. With only 2 nights left, definitely have to wratch it up a bit....
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Cancun
[QUOTE=Lancer520]I checked out Cancun yesterday and I was thouroughly dissapointed. There were about 30 girls, most of which were those big Amazonian types you spoke of and really super aggresive. There were only about 6 guys and we were the only Americans, which made us even more of a target. I had had a morning session with my Help girl from the previous night and was still exausted so I decided not to partake. That was my first time in a terma coming out empty handed.[/QUOTE]
My bet is you went into the termas rather than the whiskeria. I had no problem finding an awesome girl, Nubia, just the other night. I can't remember the name of the other girl whom I had met the last time (fair skinned morena) but she would top anyone's termas list. I think if guys go to the whiskeria rather than the termas they will have a much different impression of Cancun. Once you get to the rooms, you will find some of the best in Rio. I don't work there, but I do like the place.
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[QUOTE=Exec Talent]My bet is you went into the termas rather than the whiskeria. I had no problem finding an awesome girl, Nubia, just the other night. I can't remember the name of the other girl whom I had met the last time (fair skinned morena) but she would top anyone's termas list. I think if guys go to the whiskeria rather than the termas they will have a much different impression of Cancun. Once you get to the rooms, you will find some of the best in Rio. I don't work there, but I do like the place.[/QUOTE]I made the mistake of not going into the Whiskeria. I thought what for, I plan to bang some poontang and not drink. I didn't realize the Whiskeria until I was leaving. Big mistake. But me and my wingman plan to hit it next week. I heard a poplar Brazilian porn star name Luana works there.
Does anyone know about her?
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My Thoughts On Rio So Far....
So after a crazy session i'm taking it easy tonight so I thought I'd write up some of my impressions so far of this trip. First of all, everything has gone up in price in Rio since last year. I swear it's like they follow the moves of the dollar and move there prices accordingly. So far I feel like the best deal in Rio has been Porcao. 68 Reals for all you can eat quality steak is a bargain. Terraco Atlantico is a total rip off as is almost all of the restaurants on Aveinda Atlantico. I super overpaid for my apartment but it has by far the best view in Rio. For those of you who know the area it's in Arapador behind the Sofitel hotel and it's 18 stories(We're on the 17th). I found out that the apartment is for sale and the asking price is 995,000 Reals. Contrary to what I read on the board, the going rate for a Help girl Todo la noche is definitely more then 200 reals. I've only pulled one girl out of there in 6 nights and it cost me 300 Reals. I have talked to a bunch of American and english guys down here and they all seem to average around 300 to 350 reals for the night. Not to say out in front of Help you can't get a bargain, but, once they pay the 38 Real entrance fee(Another absolute rip off) you're not getting them for 200. Now for the good.
The service is as great as ever. Both in the termas and at Help, I haven't hit a dud yet out of 8. This is why I keep coming back to Rio. I learned that having a "girlfriend" down here is far more expensive then paying for it every night. As I found out today in an E-mail, my former Brazilian G/F is in Switzerland after spending time in Monte Carlo(Not the Terma) LOL... Somehow through the Garota Net she found out I was at Help. Can't even figure it out but who cares. Anyway, my wingman got into a 3 day marriage with a Help girl that cost him 1300 Reals and a 600 Real dinner at Marius but since i've done it in the past, I shall not cast the first stone. The termas from what I've seen can be very hit or miss. Now I can see why one person says it's great on here and another says it sucked. If you don't speak any English, it's kinda difficult at places like Cancun and the "Dive Termas". In Cancun yesterday, almost no one including the front desk spoke a lick of English.
On this trip I have been a frequenter of NS Copacabana 583 Suite 204. Suite would definitely be a huge overstatement. The rooms have sheets that are probably washed once a day and pretty much no one speaks English however, I just came out of my best session in Rio with a cute spinner named Camille or something like that. I had seen her the last time I was there and she was hanging with some locals so I repeated with Mel. This time she got to me as soon as I sat down before Mel or anyone else could come over. I was happy. Anyway, I drank a quick soda and headed off to the room. She started out with the traditional BBBJ which was ok but nothing spectacular but there was something sexy about this girl that just did it for me. I powered through about 15 minutes before I popped off my first shot. I actually only paid for the 20 minutes with her which is 90 Reals(A bit much concidering the facilities but with her I didn't care. We were laying there all of about 5 minutes and she had me going again. I'll be the first to tell you, I haven't got off 2 pops in an hour on this trip or probably for a couple of years and i'm only 34 which probably isn't good. LOL. I told her to tell the girl at the desk who is also a GDP to make my 20 minute an hour. There was a problem in communication so the Desk/GDP comes in to the room and starts carrying on a conversation with me as I'm laying there buck naked full mast.(Only in brazil!!!) As she's walking out I give her a slap on the ass which she playfully loved. now we get into round two and my little spinner goes crazy. She asks me if I want to be tied up and gagged which I totally am not into and quickly declined. Then it just got hot and dirty. She told me afterwards that she came 3 times which i'm sure wasn't a lie because the two of us were a hot, sweaty, sticky, mess. She took it from all angles and begged for more. I took her from behind and just let loose on her as she kept screaming Muito Bon. Overall I would give her an 8 in looks and a 9.5 in showmanship. Somehow with me knowing no Portugese and her knowing no English, I have her coming over to my apartment at 10:30 tomorrow night when she gets off work. I can't wait to have this girl in the confines of my clean bedroom... Anyway, that's enough for tonight. Tomorrow night is my last night in Rio so hopefully I'll make the most of it. As I think of more stuff, I'll put it on the board. By the way, I do have a picture of this girl that i will post when I get home. Her hair is totally desheveled but she let me snap her anyway. God I love this place.
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[QUOTE=Jamaicanceo]I made the mistake of not going into the Whiskeria. I thought what for, I plan to bang some poontang and not drink. I didn't realize the Whiskeria until I was leaving. Big mistake. But me and my wingman plan to hit it next week. I heard a poplar Brazilian porn star name Luana works there.
Does anyone know about her?[/QUOTE]Please please tell me it this Luana;
[url]http://www.spankwire.com/Big-Butt-Brazilian-Luana/video141374/[/url]
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Good Stuff
[QUOTE=Lancer520]So after a crazy session I'm taking it easy tonight so I thought I'd write up some of my impressions so far of this trip. First of all, everything has gone up in price in Rio since last year. I swear it's like they follow the moves of the dollar and move there prices accordingly. So far I feel like the best deal in Rio has been Porcao. 68 Reals for all you can eat quality steak is a bargain. Terraco Atlantico is a total rip off as is almost all of the restaurants on Aveinda Atlantico. I super overpaid for my apartment but it has by far the best view in Rio. For those of you who know the area it's in Arapador behind the Sofitel hotel and it's 18 stories (We're on the 17th). I found out that the apartment is for sale and the asking price is 995, 000 Reals. Contrary to what I read on the board, the going rate for a Help girl Todo la noche is definitely more then 200 reals. I've only pulled one girl out of there in 6 nights and it cost me 300 Reals. I have talked to a bunch of American and english guys down here and they all seem to average around 300 to 350 reals for the night. Not to say out in front of Help you can't get a bargain, but, once they pay the 38 Real entrance fee (Another absolute rip off) you're not getting them for 200. Now for the good.
The service is as great as ever. Both in the termas and at Help, I haven't hit a dud yet out of 8. This is why I keep coming back to Rio. I learned that having a "girlfriend" down here is far more expensive then paying for it every night. As I found out today in an E-mail, my former Brazilian G/F is in Switzerland after spending time in Monte Carlo (Not the Terma) LOL. Somehow through the Garota Net she found out I was at Help. Can't even figure it out but who cares. Anyway, my wingman got into a 3 day marriage with a Help girl that cost him 1300 Reals and a 600 Real dinner at Marius but since I've done it in the past, I shall not cast the first stone. The termas from what I've seen can be very hit or miss. Now I can see why one person says it's great on here and another says it sucked. If you don't speak any English, it's kinda difficult at places like Cancun and the "Dive Termas". In Cancun yesterday, almost no one including the front desk spoke a lick of English.
On this trip I have been a frequenter of NS Copacabana 583 Suite 204. Suite would definitely be a huge overstatement. The rooms have sheets that are probably washed once a day and pretty much no one speaks English however, I just came out of my best session in Rio with a cute spinner named Camille or something like that. I had seen her the last time I was there and she was hanging with some locals so I repeated with Mel. This time she got to me as soon as I sat down before Mel or anyone else could come over. I was happy. Anyway, I drank a quick soda and headed off to the room. She started out with the traditional BBBJ which was ok but nothing spectacular but there was something sexy about this girl that just did it for me. I powered through about 15 minutes before I popped off my first shot. I actually only paid for the 20 minutes with her which is 90 Reals (A bit much concidering the facilities but with her I didn't care. We were laying there all of about 5 minutes and she had me going again. I'll be the first to tell you, I haven't got off 2 pops in an hour on this trip or probably for a couple of years and I'm only 34 which probably isn't good. LOL. I told her to tell the girl at the desk who is also a GDP to make my 20 minute an hour. There was a problem in communication so the Desk/GDP comes in to the room and starts carrying on a conversation with me as I'm laying there buck naked full mast. (Only in brazil! ) As she's walking out I give her a slap on the ass which she playfully loved. Now we get into round two and my little spinner goes crazy. She asks me if I want to be tied up and gagged which I totally am not into and quickly declined. Then it just got hot and dirty. She told me afterwards that she came 3 times which I'm sure wasn't a lie because the two of us were a hot, sweaty, sticky, mess. She took it from all angles and begged for more. I took her from behind and just let loose on her as she kept screaming Muito Bon. Overall I would give her an 8 in looks and a 9. 5 in showmanship. Somehow with me knowing no Portugese and her knowing no English, I have her coming over to my apartment at 10: 30 tomorrow night when she gets off work. I can't wait to have this girl in the confines of my clean bedroom. Anyway, that's enough for tonight. Tomorrow night is my last night in Rio so hopefully I'll make the most of it. As I think of more stuff, I'll put it on the board. By the way, I do have a picture of this girl that I will post when I get home. Her hair is totally desheveled but she let me snap her anyway. God I love this place.[/QUOTE]Great Report Lance, sounds like you found a diamond in the rough! Can't wait will be there next week!
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Help!! :(
for what it's worth, a poster on another message board is reporting:
"Davida received information today that Help has now been officially expropriated. The owners and operators have 60 days to leave the building. :eek:
To make matters worse, the state has ALSO expropriated the Bingo Apoador, owned by the same group that runs Help and once seen by some as a possible substitute for the discoteca."
DAVIDA is a Brazilian Prostitutes Union.
Nothing reported on their site nor in Oglobo.
[url]http://www.davida.org.br/[/url]
[url]http://www.beijodarua.com.br/[/url]
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[QUOTE=Chingon]for what it's worth, a poster on another message board is reporting:
"Davida received information today that Help has now been officially expropriated. The owners and operators have 60 days to leave the building. :eek:
To make matters worse, the state has ALSO expropriated the Bingo Apoador, owned by the same group that runs Help and once seen by some as a possible substitute for the discoteca."
DAVIDA is a Brazilian Prostitutes Union.
Nothing reported on their site nor in Oglobo.
[url]http://www.davida.org.br/[/url]
[url]http://www.beijodarua.com.br/[/url][/QUOTE]Who is incharge of Help rumor control on this forum anyway? Could there possibly be a Help rumor control forum created for the conspiracy inclined?
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[QUOTE=Koolkid]Please please tell me it this Luana;
[url]http://www.spankwire.com/Big-Butt-Brazilian-Luana/video141374/[/url][/QUOTE]Yep. that's my wife. Stay waway from her, cause she's mine! All mine!
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[QUOTE=Jamaicanceo]Yep. that's my wife. Stay waway from her, cause she's mine! All mine![/QUOTE]
Jamaicanceo, the brasilian boards say that Luana works in the terma, Black And White. Unfortunately, the terma is smack dab in the middle of a super dangerous favela called Bonsucesso. I know taxi drivers who wont enter that area, not even during the day time. Even other brasilians have told me that it is very dangerous to travel there.
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[QUOTE=Bravo] a super dangerous favela called Bonsucesso.[/QUOTE]
Bonsucesso is by no means a favela, it's only a Zona Norte (within Rio's city limits) lower middle-class bairro.
I had a GF who lived there and I've visited her quite often without feeling once unsafe or threatened.
Nonetheless it's adjacent to many favelas, notally Complexo do Alemao, which is with Grajau in Sao Paulo probably the worst urban sector in Brasil when it comes to crime.
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[QUOTE=Prosal]Bonsucesso is by no means a favela, it's only a Zona Norte lower middle-class bairro.
I had a GF who lived there and I've visited her quite often without feeling once unsafe or threatened.
Nonetheless it's adjacent to many favelas, notally Complexo do Alemao, which is with Grajau in Sao Paulo probably the worst urban sector in Brasil when it comes to crime.[/QUOTE]
Prosal:
Is there a way to get to this termas by metro or bus?
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[QUOTE=Dwilso39]Prosal: Is there a way to get to this termas by metro or bus?[/QUOTE]
Sure.
I catched a bus Praça General Osorio in Ipanema (on Prudente de Morais), which took me straight to Bonsucesso.
It was a few years ago so I don't remember the number, but Gen Osorio is its departure/terminus, so it's quite easy to find.
Don't know about metro.
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[QUOTE=Bravo]Jamaicanceo, the brasilian boards say that Luana works in the terma, Black And White. Unfortunately, the terma is smack dab in the middle of a super dangerous favela called Bonsucesso. I know taxi drivers who wont enter that area, not even during the day time. Even other brasilians have told me that it is very dangerous to travel there.[/QUOTE]Hmmm, thanks. I wonder if it's worth tapping that hunka of amazon azz? I have 6 days to think abaout it.
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Help Closing Down For Real
The rumors became true.
The owners have 60 days to give the building to the government.
Sad.
The end of an era.
Brugal
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Possible alternate locations....
[QUOTE=Brugal8]The rumors became true.
The owners have 60 days to give the building to the government.
Sad.
The end of an era.
Brugal[/QUOTE]
If this is all true, then right off the bat I would think that the other cafe's within the area would be the next logical place for the gdp's to go look for clients. At least until another main venue is set up. I"m just guessing here.
Anyone want to take a guess as to what other possible places for the gdp's to go hang out?
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Help Closing Down For Real
[QUOTE=Brugal8]The rumors became true.
The owners have 60 days to give the building to the government.
Sad.
The end of an era.
Brugal[/QUOTE]Are you fucking joking? Have you verified this info? Well if it is true one monkey don't stop a show. As long as their is *****'s's there will be some whoring.
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Help????
Well I don't know who might have the answer, but I'm going to try and find out tonight. As for the Bingo Arapador building, they have covered up the bingo sign and there is a lot of construction going on in there. I will peak my head in tomorrow and see what I can find out. My apartment is about 10 steps away from that building. As much as I didn't frequent Help this trip, it still is a great place to pick up quality bunda. hope this is just another Help rumor...
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[QUOTE=Prosal]Bonsucesso is by no means a favela, it's only a Zona Norte lower middle-class bairro.
I had a GF who lived there and I've visited her quite often without feeling once unsafe or threatened.
Nonetheless it's adjacent to many favelas, notally Complexo do Alemao, which is with Grajau in Sao Paulo probably the worst urban sector in Brasil when it comes to crime.[/QUOTE]
I can only go by what other brasilians told me, I asked like 5 people. The first person I asked, lived two blocks away from that terma and he told me that the area is very dangerous. He warned me to only try to go during the daytime and NEVER at night. The two taxi drivers I asked, both said they wont take passengers into bonsuccesso, they would ask them to get out of their cab and find another taxi.
Not sure why 5 completely different brasilians would all try to scare me from going into that area. But to each their own. I was specifically going to go to that terma to try and fuck Luana, but after hearing all that BS, I decided to skip that phat booty! Maybe Jamaicanceo will ventur into the region and he can post his report on the board.
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End of Help - Not a Rumor
It's Official, Oglobo is reporting the same:
Help has now been officially expropriated. The owners and operators have 60 days to leave the building. Terraca Atlantica is also affected. The owners will get $13 milllion USD.
"RIO - A judge of the 9th Vara de Fazenda Pública accepted the request for expropriation of the property's of nightclub Help in Copacabana, and ruled on Monday that it be vacated in 60 days. The government has already deposited in the state court U.S. $ 13 million, a figure initially stipulated for the purchase of an area of 1600 square meters, which will be in, 2011 the new headquarters of the Museum of Image and Sound (MIS). The construction will start in November.
The court process began last year when the governor, Sérgio Cabral, signed a decree making it a public utility, for expropriating the land where the nightclub and restaurants: Sobre as Ondas and Terrace Atlantic are located. According to the Attorney General of the State, the owners of the property can still use the amount to be paid by the government for the land, but the decision on the expropriation of the property is final.
The land - on Rua Djalma Ulrich 4, corner of Avenida Atlantica 3432 - is part of an estate, but is rented to a group of entrepreneurs who run Help and the restaurants. Contacted by Globo, the administrators of the club have not been found to comment on the case, nor to provide the lawyers phone numbers".
[url]http://oglobo.globo.com/rio/mat/2009/03/18/justica-desapropria-imovel-da-boate-help-754895930.asp[/url]
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[QUOTE=Chingon]It's Official, Oglobo is reporting the same:
Help has now been officially expropriated. The owners and operators have 60 days to leave the building. Terraca Atlantica is also affected. The owners will get $13 milllion USD.
"Rio. A judge of the 9th Vara de Fazenda Pública accepted the request for expropriation of the property's of nightclub Help in Copacabana, and ruled on Monday that it be vacated in 60 days. The government has already deposited in the state court USA $ 13 million, a figure initially stipulated for the purchase of an area of 1600 square meters, which will be in, 2011 the new headquarters of the Museum of Image and Sound (MIS). The construction will start in November.
The court process began last year when the governor, Sérgio Cabral, signed a decree making it a public utility, for expropriating the land where the nightclub and restaurants: Sobre as Ondas and Terrace Atlantic are located. According to the Attorney General of the State, the owners of the property can still use the amount to be paid by the government for the land, but the decision on the expropriation of the property is final.
The land. On Rua Djalma Ulrich 4, corner of Avenida Atlantica 3432. Is part of an estate, but is rented to a group of entrepreneurs who run Help and the restaurants. Contacted by Globo, the administrators of the club have not been found to comment on the case, nor to provide the lawyers phone numbers".
[url]http://oglobo.globo.com/rio/mat/2009/03/18/justica-desapropria-imovel-da-boate-help-754895930.asp[/url][/QUOTE]Well that fucking great!! I book an apartment just around the corner and I don't even get to see this place. I arrive on may 19th so lets hope I get at least one look at it!
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[QUOTE=Funkignitor]luana is worth it, maybe you can hire a driver to take you back and forth.[/QUOTE]So you've boned her? Tell us about it. I need some details.
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Rest In Peace HELP
Oh well. Looks like I might make it on the last day Help is open (assuming they go the full 60 days allowed) . . . although I was considering coming in a few days later than planned shortening my trip because of the economy, thus missing out on Help's last gasp.
But with this recent news plus the global economy not exactly making me feel that it's a good idea to spend my savings on hookers this year, I'm starting to think maybe I should cancel/postpone my trip this May?
This would be only my 2nd trip to Rio (went 1st time in '08, also in late May around Memorial Day weekend) and trip #1 was very short (just 6 days) so I don't have a lot of contacts to rely on.
I did prefer the termas to Help, and guys on these P4P forums have been complaining about Help for the past couple of years now, that it's not what it used to be, etc. etc.
Still, I did appreciate Help and the whole Terraco Atlantica scene as a backup or "Plan B" option when I didn't hit a terma during the day (because of doing "regular tourism").
So I'm thinking late May might be a bad time to go, as the independent scene will be in a "transitionary" phase. There might not be a lot of "Plan B" out there.
I was thinking of branching out on trip # 2 with the in-call freelancers and agencies, and also the massagem venues. With Help out of the equation, that maybe becomes a must if I decide to stick with my trip for May. . .
What do you guys think?
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[QUOTE=Phunluv]Oh well. Looks like I might make it on the last day Help is open (assuming they go the full 60 days allowed) . . . although I was considering coming in a few days later than planned shortening my trip because of the economy, thus missing out on Help's last gasp.
But with this recent news plus the global economy not exactly making me feel that it's a good idea to spend my savings on hookers this year, I'm starting to think maybe I should cancel/postpone my trip this May?
This would be only my 2nd trip to Rio (went 1st time in '08, also in late May around Memorial Day weekend) and trip #1 was very short (just 6 days) so I don't have a lot of contacts to rely on.
I did prefer the termas to Help, and guys on these P4P forums have been complaining about Help for the past couple of years now, that it's not what it used to be, etc. etc.
Still, I did appreciate Help and the whole Terraco Atlantica scene as a backup or "Plan B" option when I didn't hit a terma during the day (because of doing "regular tourism").
So I'm thinking late May might be a bad time to go, as the independent scene will be in a "transitionary" phase. There might not be a lot of "Plan B" out there.
I was thinking of branching out on trip # 2 with the in-call freelancers and agencies, and also the massagem venues. With Help out of the equation, that maybe becomes a must if I decide to stick with my trip for May. . .
What do you guys think?[/QUOTE]I am there in less than 2 weeks for a month. Help is now on the agenda for all 31 nights in Rio. I will definetly miss helpe. Had some great nights in there and no doubt will have some good nights in there before it closes. I would guess that another place will replace help by christmas. The garotas will hang out where the mongers go. Simple.
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Help closing
Don´t cry. Help closing it´s not a loss.
I have never seen so low quality at Help as these days.
It´s almost like VM quality. The only difference is that the Help girls dress nicer, have an awful attitude and charge absurd money.
Let those overweighted, lazy and spoiled Help-girls start doing some hard honest work at VM or in a R$ 1/minute casa in centro. :D
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Help
everyone is gonna have their own thoughts about what it means for HELP to be closing, personally, I hate to see it happen. I am gonna try my hardest to get down there, before the final date comes for its closure.
Chris H
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Nooo, say it aint so
Well I'm not a terma guy. I'm a huge beach and Help nut. To say that the news that it will actually close is devastating. I also am planning to be there for the last day. Has anyone noticed how cheap the flights are for April and May?
CandyMan
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Help....
Well if last night was my last night ever in Help I will say I went out with a great big thud. Maybe I jinxed myself by saying yesterday I haden't had a bad session out of 14 on this trip, but all that came to an end with a Help girl last night. Her name is Paola and she is from Porte Alegre. She is an absolute stunner. I had met her and her friend on the stage the first night I was in Help and they were both drinking champagne with us. When we got down to negotiations, she wanted 500 reals for the night and I told her she was crazy. So they left unhappy that i didn't take the bait. Well, last night I broke about 4 rules of mongering. I saw her again and she smiled and was very friendly so I brought her up on the stage. I was with some guys that lurk on this board behind the scenes and i'm sure they will be reading this. We got to talking and she was still firm with her 500 Real offer. Since I had about 1000 Reals left and I'm leaving tonight, I said what the fuck and went for it. I know 500 is totally retarded but if the performance matched the looks it would have been a memorable night. We got back to my apartment and she went to shower. Her big fake rack was bouncing around all over the place. Here was the next mistake. She asked for the money upfront. Sort of. She counted 500 and just layed it on the nightstand. So from that she proceded to give me a CBJ, which I haven't had once the entire trip and the sex was average at best. Sadly I had already popped once at 4x4 earlier in the night and couldn't even finish. Finally, I just gave up and went to bed. We woke up at abut 10 am and started to go at it once more but she just did not do it for me at all. My first instincts on the first night were right. What a waste of God given talent she is. LOL.
Oh well, I have 7 hours left and I'm not going out of Rio on that note. I'm going back to NS Copa 583 in a bit and I'm going to take my bad night out on Camille who I had a great time with on Wed. On a seperate note, I spoke with the head waiter last night and he said as of now Help will close in 2 months however, he said like everything else in Rio that can change. If there's enough bribery then it's possible Help could remain open. Here's a staggering figure for you. Between Help Night Club, Terraco Atlantico, and the cover charge, the building does aproximate $30 million US dollars a year in sales. That means by US standards the building and the business is worth about $60 to $80 million, not the $13 million the goverment is paying. I'd be pretty pissed if that was my club.
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Help
Man if these reports are true I am glad I got to see Help before it closed. I hope this is not the case.
This is a huge generalization but was curious if you guys thought girls with fake breasts tend to be bad performers. I dont like them so I just generally avoid them. I just noticed at the Termas some of the ones that had fakes were more pushy etc. Dont know I am sure there are exceptions just was curious what you guys thought.
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End of an Era
I'm sure alot of people are not going to cry over the closing of Help. I for noe, liked Help. Yes there was some dogs, and a lot of the girls tried to over-charge you, but I still thought it was a good value option given that: you could dance and flight of a couple of hours ($28r + drinks); see about 200+ girls a night, and then take one home if you wish. To me, this was a good way to spend 2 night on a 5 night trip.
My feeling is that a lot of the girls will have to find other work because they will not be/won't work at the other venues (Prado Junior, Termas, VM, BA 85, etc.) because they have been too spoiled by Help newbie. Also, there lifestyle is going to have to change. No more sleeping all day, shopping all evening, and drinking all night - if you don't have the income to support it.
I think the good news in that price WILL go down, and service will go up. Or, the girls are going to be willing to do A LOT more for the same money they used to charge. " you want $200r, well you have to spend the entire day with me, and I'll fuck you as much as I want". "Sim".
My only other refrenece for something like this is the Domincan Republic when al lot to the disco's in Sosua closed: the sence becamce "much" smaller and there was A LOT more compeition amoust the girls. Plus their attitutes got a whole lot better. Prices didn't necessary drop, but you got more for the same prices.
All in ALL, I'm sad to see the place go, but life goes on and some other place; or some other country will take up the slack.
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Not so fast.
[QUOTE=Dwilso39]
My feeling is that a lot of the girls will have to find other work because they will not be/won't work at the other venues (Prado Junior, Termas, VM, BA 85, etc.) because they have been too spoiled by Help newbie. Also, there lifestyle is going to have to change. No more sleeping all day, shopping all evening, and drinking all night - if you don't have the income to support it.
My only other refrenece for something like this is the Domincan Republic when al lot to the disco's in Sosua closed:
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Don't count these girls out yet.
Even if Help does close don't expect these girls to give up so easily. They’ll find other venues.
Most of you have probably only been to Rio while Help has been open.
From 1980 to 1987 I went to Rio 35 times and only stepped foot in Help twice after it opened in about 1985. The putas had not taken over yet so it was just a regular disco like Nuth.
So where were the Putas in Copacabana to be found? Well in every Cafe along Ave. Atlantica. When I stayed in the Rio Palace hotel (Sofitel) the cafe next door (Pigalle) was packed every night with putas much like Terraco Atlantica is today. When I stayed in the Hotel California the cafe next door (Le Maison) was packed every night with putas much like Terraco Atlantica is today. Mabs was packed every night with quality Putas, so was Meia Pataca and every other cafe along the avenue.
I used to go to a place called Club Erotika but it was on Princess Isabel Blvd, rather large and good quality every night.
If they don't take over Bingo Arpoador then all of the girls will spill over onto the street and the better ones will find a home in the Boates near Princess Isabell like Barbarellas and Franks.
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I Got An Email From Rio About Help
It seems true if my contact in Brazil emails the same information.
Maybe this will make the Copa garotas give more for less?
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[QUOTE=Chingon]Help has now been officially expropriated. The owners and operators have 60 days to leave the building. Terraca Atlantica is also affected. The owners will get $13 milllion USD...[/QUOTE]
I might be mistaken but I think the 13 millions are only a first payment, deposit. Not the final price.
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[QUOTE=Lancer520]. Her name is Paola and she is from Porte Alegre. She is an absolute stunner. I had met her and her friend on the stage the first night I was in Help and they were both drinking champagne with us. When we got down to negotiations, she wanted 500 reals for the night and I told her she was crazy. .[/QUOTE]Are you talking about blond Paola? Fake boobs, nice butt. Speaks no english?
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Following the money
The closing of help doesn't make sense to me from a financial prespective. You are going to close an establishement that you get the tax off of $30mil usd/year to open a museam that your will make , probably less than half that a year?
I say that in the end, Help Will stay open, but the new owers of the establishment will be the Brazilian government. Maybe the current owners will have to "lease-back" the space from them.
This is a money play by the governement as I see it. Anyone with more knowledge/experience care to weight-in?
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Help...
Funny, I just stopped by terraco Atlantico and I was talking to one of the head waiters. He said no chance Help will close. He says we go through this every year and every year we pay the government more money. After seeing this year after year I tend to believe him. Don't have time to report now as I am leaving fr the airport, but I finished up the trip with a triple header at NS Copa 583. Will report and post photos when I'm back stateside tomorrow. Parting is such sweet sorrow. Tchau!!!
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[QUOTE=Dwilso39]The closing of help doesn't make sense to me from a financial prespective. You are going to close an establishement that you get the tax off of $30mil usd/year to open a museam that your will make , probably less than half that a year?
I say that in the end, Help Will stay open, but the new owers of the establishment will be the Brazilian government. Maybe the current owners will have to "lease-back" the space from them.
This is a money play by the governement as I see it. Anyone with more knowledge/experience care to weight-in?[/QUOTE]
Dwilso39, Are you sure you didnt wire tap my phone? LOL!! I had the same exact conversation with my cousin about 2 hours ago. Why on earth would the brazilian government close a business that generates millions each year in taxes?!! That makes no sense.
Only thing I disagree with you on, is the potential income of the new museum. What museum makes 15 million a year? Especially a museum in Rio!! They will probably make more like 1 million a year, if that!!
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Do the owners not have any more legal options? When reading this article, I couldn’t help but think of a certain episode of [i]The Simpsons[/i]. It was set in the future and the sign out front of the Springfield Nuclear Power Plant said "Still operating thanks to the lengthy appeals process." From what I hear about the Brazilian legal system, it wouldn't surprise me to see such a sign somewhere in Help in the near future.
[QUOTE=Chingon]It's Official, Oglobo is reporting the same:
Help has now been officially expropriated. The owners and operators have 60 days to leave the building. Terraca Atlantica is also affected. The owners will get $13 milllion USD.
"RIO - A judge of the 9th Vara de Fazenda Pública accepted the request for expropriation of the property's of nightclub Help in Copacabana, and ruled on Monday that it be vacated in 60 days. The government has already deposited in the state court U.S. $ 13 million, a figure initially stipulated for the purchase of an area of 1600 square meters, which will be in, 2011 the new headquarters of the Museum of Image and Sound (MIS). The construction will start in November.
The court process began last year when the governor, Sérgio Cabral, signed a decree making it a public utility, for expropriating the land where the nightclub and restaurants: Sobre as Ondas and Terrace Atlantic are located. According to the Attorney General of the State, the owners of the property can still use the amount to be paid by the government for the land, but the decision on the expropriation of the property is final.
The land - on Rua Djalma Ulrich 4, corner of Avenida Atlantica 3432 - is part of an estate, but is rented to a group of entrepreneurs who run Help and the restaurants. Contacted by Globo, the administrators of the club have not been found to comment on the case, nor to provide the lawyers phone numbers".
[url]http://oglobo.globo.com/rio/mat/2009/03/18/justica-desapropria-imovel-da-boate-help-754895930.asp[/url][/QUOTE]
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On Second Thought. . .
[QUOTE=Bravo]Dwilso39, Are you sure you didnt wire tap my phone? LOL!! I had the same exact conversation with my cousin about 2 hours ago. Why on earth would the brazilian government close a business that generates millions each year in taxes?!! That makes no sense.
Only thing I disagree with you on, is the potential income of the new museum. What museum makes 15 million a year? Especially a museum in Rio!! They will probably make more like 1 million a year, if that!![/QUOTE]True that. A museum is a public expense, not a private enterprise that gives back taxes. Maybe in Centro, a "Museum of Light and Sound" would work better but on Atlantica, I would tend to think the visitor numbers would trend low so the entrada revenues might just barely cover the operating costs, not to mention the initial capital investment. Who's going to want to spend time inside a museum when the beach is just a few steps away? I figure a carioca would rather perfect his/her tan or play sports, and the tourists want to chill out and people-watch on a world-famous beach.
If it does actually go through, it's only because the city authorities were dead set on getting rid of the "social blight" that Help supposedly is. Not just the putas but the favelados who prey on the easy-target mongers.
[QUOTE=Sangue Bon]From 1980 to 1987 I went to Rio 35 times and only stepped foot in Help twice after it opened in about 1985. The putas had not taken over yet so it was just a regular disco like Nuth.
So where were the Putas in Copacabana to be found? Well in every Cafe along Ave. Atlantica. When I stayed in the Rio Palace hotel (Sofitel) the cafe next door (Pigalle) was packed every night with putas much like Terraco Atlantica is today. When I stayed in the Hotel California the cafe next door (Le Maison) was packed every night with putas much like Terraco Atlantica is today. Mabs was packed every night with quality Putas, so was Meia Pataca and every other cafe along the avenue.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your long-term insight. It's good to know. I guess I was just worried that the freelance nighttime scene would be in limbo around late May which is the time I'm going. Sounds like the GdPs will just spread out to the other cafes on the main avenue and maybe some side streets as well? Anyway, whatever happens, I will definitely prepare more for this second trip to not rely on just termas and Help. I can wait to nearly the last second to cancel my trip; I'll just keep reading the updates here and make a final decision a few days before. Would rather pay the fees to redeposit the miles and cancel the apartment reservation, then spend thousands more on a mediocre trip. Anyway, if the economy hits me between the eyes, none of these questions will matter anymore, so I guess I'll just stay "on standby" until mid-May.
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I think the biggest draw back to Help closing, is that it will be extremely difficult to locate the new girls now. I know over the years, I have been fortunate to catch many girls on their first week in Help (A few of times, I got girls on their very first night in Help, brand new to the business). New working girls tend to stand out inside of Help, just as much as new tourists.
Now if the girls are forced to be spread all over Copa, your chances of catching a new girl are slim and none.
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VM/Help
[QUOTE=Sperto]Don´t cry. Help closing it´s not a loss.
I have never seen so low quality at Help as these days.
It´s almost like VM quality. The only difference is that the Help girls dress nicer, have an awful attitude and charge absurd money.
Let those overweighted, lazy and spoiled Help-girls start doing some hard honest work at VM or in a R$ 1/minute casa in centro. :D[/QUOTE]
I would agree... They need to get those spoiled girls to realize that they need to perform as if it was their last Real... I guess this means more tourist in VM or Centro...
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[QUOTE=Chris H]everyone is gonna have their own thoughts about what it means for HELP to be closing, personally, I hate to see it happen. I am gonna try my hardest to get down there, before the final date comes for its closure.
Chris H[/QUOTE]
I agree. Personally for me this is terrible news. Help has gone through a few down years, but it is a uniquely large and interesting club that was usually fun for the evening. It brings in tremendous dollars into the economy of Copacabana and Rio. The economic impact will be big. I doubt another club of this size and legend will come along for a long time.
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[QUOTE=Bravo]I think the biggest draw back to Help closing, is that it will be extremely difficult to locate the new girls now. I know over the years, I have been fortunate to catch many girls on their first week in Help (A few of times, I got girls on their very first night in Help, brand new to the business). New working girls tend to stand out inside of Help, just as much as new tourists.
Now if the girls are forced to be spread all over Copa, your chances of catching a new girl are slim and none.[/QUOTE]Don't you just love it when you catch a newbie in helpe. Ones that ask me after fucking then 4 times how much I want to pay them. And are shy.
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Potential
[QUOTE=Bravo]Only thing I disagree with you on, is the potential income of the new museum. What museum makes 15 million a year? Especially a museum in Rio!! They will probably make more like 1 million a year, if that!![/QUOTE]
According to the World Tourism Organization (UNWTO), about 5.7 million tourists have visited Brasil in 2007. That's an average of 16 000 arrivals per day. A number that given the fantastic tourism potential should logically grow in the post-crisis years. Brasilian authorities have for that matter made of tourism one of their top-ten priorities by launching the second phase of the "Aquarela Plan" (O Plano Aquarela, a marketing plan to increase the flow of tourists to Brasil), which began in 2005. The goal being to double inbound tourism before 2020 and to place Brasil, now 38th, in the top-twenty world's top tourism destinations. An ambitious plan but IMO doable.
It's not abberant to state that 90% of those 12 millions tourists expected each year will visit Copacabana, THE vitrine of Brasil. Now how many of them will visit the museum ?
I'd bet on 10/15 %. Plus the national tourists. Plus the locals (school visits, ect). That makes a lot of people. And at maybe us$10 the ticket, a lot of money.
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[QUOTE=David68]Are you talking about blond Paola? Fake boobs, nice butt. Speaks no english?[/QUOTE]My problem in help is that I always drink champagne in there. Will spend 600r on drinks in a night. Big bottle is 80r. Small 15r. I drink straight out off a big bottle. But alot off women want to give me a high quote because I spend alot on drinks. But I am a buisness man. I would raither go home alone, knowing I can hit then termas the nexy day, that give a ***** anything over 300r. Helpe is my drinking time. And partying time. If the right women comes along for the right price, then it is fun. But if a women want's over 300r. I will spend 200r on drinks on her. (that's fun, buisness is buisness) I would rather go home alone. In my experience a women who wants to extort you is always a dud. In Rio in 10 days for a month.
Helpe every night.
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[QUOTE=Dwilso39]I say that in the end, Help Will stay open, but the new owers of the establishment will be the Brazilian government.[/QUOTE]
Rio state government holding a brothel ? .. what have you been smocking and where can I get some ?
For your information Brasil is a conservative country. There are some 4 millions born-again-Xtian evangelists in the only State of Rio de Janeiro. That's about 35% of the voters. A fantastically powerful political force, which grows every day. And those people vote exactly as their preachers tell them to : for "morality".
Make no mistake guys : Help closure is just the first step of a DEEP cleaning of Copacabana. And IMO Vila Mimosa could follow.
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Help is Not a Brothel
[QUOTE=Prosal]Rio state government holding a brothel ? .. what have you been smocking and where can I get some ?
For your information Brasil is a conservative country. There are some 4 millions born-again-Xtian evangelists in the only State of Rio de Janeiro. That's about 35% of the voters. A fantastically powerful political force, which grows every day. And those people vote exactly as their preachers tell them to : for "morality".
Make no mistake guys : Help closure is just the first step of a DEEP cleaning of Copacabana. And IMO Vila Mimosa could follow.[/QUOTE]
This is the argument the owners have be making for a long time to try and defend themselves. Help is a Discotech; Plain an simple. There are not rooms, there is not sex on-sight, and they don't advertise as a termas. So yes, the government can own the land and lease it back to the current operatertors.
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[QUOTE=JohnnyBraz]My problem in help is that I always drink champagne in there. Will spend 600r on drinks in a night. Big bottle is 80r. Small 15r. I drink straight out off a big bottle. But alot off women want to give me a high quote because I spend alot on drinks. But I am a buisness man. I would raither go home alone, knowing I can hit then termas the nexy day, that give a ***** anything over 300r. Helpe is my drinking time. And partying time. If the right women comes along for the right price, then it is fun. But if a women want's over 300r. I will spend 200r on drinks on her. (that's fun, buisness is buisness) I would rather go home alone. In my experience a women who wants to extort you is always a dud. In Rio in 10 days for a month.
Helpe every night.[/QUOTE]
600r a night on drinks......WOW, thats getting your drink on...gotta love it!!
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Rockstar Life At Help!!!
I agree with JohnnyBraz. I love living the rockstar lifestyle of Rio on a semi realistic budget. I too love the VIP tables, the champagne, and the women. I don't spend that much, but I do usually pound through 3 or 4 bottles of Chandon at R60 a bottle plus beers and H2O which puts me over R300 a night. Where in the US could you do this for $135? Answer A. No Where. If Help does close I will be one of the ones that really miss it. Even though I only pulled out 2 girls in 10 days there this trip, I still visited Terraco Atlantico almost every night just to have a drink and take in the sights. To me, sometimes sitting outside can be as fun as going inside. I've met countless fellow mongers over the years and made many friends there. After talking to a bunch of people about it yesterday before I left, I don't believe Help will close. I hope not anyway. Like some of you guys were talking about the other day, I got home, took a nap, then found a $600 flight from NY to Rio for June 7th giving me something to look forward to. Hopefully they'll still be a Help then....
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[QUOTE=David68]Are you talking about blond Paola? Fake boobs, nice butt. Speaks no english?[/QUOTE]
That sounds like half the women at Help. LOL. Could definitely be her though. Have you had experience with her???
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Too bad!
If Help is really closing this time I think it will be sad day. There is no place in the world like Help. I know that it has become kind of cool for some guys on this board to bash Help and the girls that go there but I think it is sad that is is closing. This is an end of an era. If Help opens somewhere else it is not likely to be the same. I doubt that it will be better. There are some cool girls that go to Help. There are some incredibly hot girls that go to Help. There are some beautiful girls that if you treat them right will take you home, f*ck you all night and cook you breakfast the next mourning.
I like Help. Some of my best memories of Rio and Brazil have happened either in Help or as a result of going to Help. I liked it the first time I went there and I liked it when I was there two weeks ago. I agree with the criticism that it is not as good as some prior years but it is still a really cool place. I like listening to music, I like watching beautiful women and I especially like watching not so beautiful women taking advantage of drunk guys. I have always thought that if more guys paid better attention to the girls they would be able to tell which girls would not provide good service. I like the "art of the deal". I loved the negotiation.
The Termas of Brazil a different than other places in the World but I have seen similar operations in other countries. I like the Termas because I love to be anywhere where there are Brazilian women in in bikinis. I will still go Rio and if need be I will spend more time in the Termas. As you all know that is not a bad thing.
I will miss Help. I think that once it is gone more people will appreciate what it provided. I am glad I will be back twice in the next 60 days!
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[QUOTE=Watchman4400]If Help is really closing this time I think it will be sad day. There is no place in the world like Help. I know that it has become kind of cool for some guys on this board to bash Help and the girls that go there but I think it is sad that is is closing. This is an end of an era. If Help opens somewhere else it is not likely to be the same. I doubt that it will be better. There are some cool girls that go to Help. There are some incredibly hot girls that go to Help. There are some beautiful girls that if you treat them right will take you home, f*ck you all night and cook you breakfast the next mourning.
I like Help. Some of my best memories of Rio and Brazil have happened either in Help or as a result of going to Help. I liked it the first time I went there and I liked it when I was there two weeks ago. I agree with the criticism that it is not as good as some prior years but it is still a really cool place. I like listening to music, I like watching beautiful women and I especially like watching not so beautiful women taking advantage of drunk guys. I have always thought that if more guys paid better attention to the girls they would be able to tell which girls would not provide good service. I like the "art of the deal". I loved the negotiation.
The Termas of Brazil a different than other places in the World but I have seen similar operations in other countries. I like the Termas because I love to be anywhere where there are Brazilian women in in bikinis. I will still go Rio and if need be I will spend more time in the Termas. As you all know that is not a bad thing.
I will miss Help. I think that once it is gone more people will appreciate what it provided. I am glad I will be back twice in the next 60 days![/QUOTE]
I totally agree with you Watchman. I love the idea of walking into a full blown nightclub where you can dance, drink champagne, and take home a smoking hot woman. Even though my last Help encounter was probably my worst, I met one of my favorite Brazilian garotas 3 years ago, and although she's doing her thing in Switzerland right now, we still stay in contact. I still don't believe it's gonna happen so I won't get all nostalgic yet....
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[QUOTE=Lancer520]I agree with JohnnyBraz. I love living the rockstar lifestyle of Rio on a semi realistic budget. I too love the VIP tables, the champagne, and the women. I don't spend that much, but I do usually pound through 3 or 4 bottles of Chandon at R60 a bottle plus beers and H2O which puts me over R300 a night. Where in the US could you do this for $135? Answer A. No Where. If Help does close I will be one of the ones that really miss it. Even though I only pulled out 2 girls in 10 days there this trip, I still visited Terraco Atlantico almost every night just to have a drink and take in the sights. To me, sometimes sitting outside can be as fun as going inside. I've met countless fellow mongers over the years and made many friends there. After talking to a bunch of people about it yesterday before I left, I don't believe Help will close. I hope not anyway. Like some of you guys were talking about the other day, I got home, took a nap, then found a $600 flight from NY to Rio for June 7th giving me something to look forward to. Hopefully they'll still be a Help then.[/QUOTE]everything about help is good. The setting over from copacabana beach. The music and dj's are good. Drinks are priced well. Even if there were no *****s in there I would still go there most nights in Rio. By night time I would have done 4 or 5 women in the daytime. It's my Rio night time retreat. I have had a few women where I have paid for the first night then not for the next few nights. I have had duds. (always women over 300r. Which keeps me now strict to the 300r max rule). I have travelled alot (still early 30's) but would say help is the best nightclub in the world. I will really miss this place. But lucky I arrive in 9 days time for a month long off helpe.
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Well if it really does happen, it would be on a year like this one with the global economic crisis pushing the city govt. and Help's owners to make a decisive move, as opposed to the usual yearly overtures and rumors that go nowhere.
Maybe the guys that have been to Help recently and also in previous years can compare and give us an idea if there's been a significant drop-off in attendance.
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[QUOTE=Phunluv]Well if it really does happen, it would be on a year like this one with the global economic crisis pushing the city govt. and Help's owners to make a decisive move, as opposed to the usual yearly overtures and rumors that go nowhere.
Maybe the guys that have been to Help recently and also in previous years can compare and given us an idea if there's been a significant drop-off in attendance.[/QUOTE]
I was there for the last 10 days and Help is pretty much the same. It's still tough to get a table out front between 11pm and 1am, the club during the week is a little slower then I remember it, but not by much. Saturday was one of the busiest, best nights I've seen in a while however I remember the days when both sides were packed, not just the club side. If there is a drop off, it's small and they're more then making up for it by increasing there cover charge(Now R28 before midnight and R38 after) and the restaurant prices out front which have shot up substantially from last year. The people that run Help definitely aren't running short on cash.
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Cuatro Por Cuatro
So I wanted to post about this while I was in Rio but I forgot. I got to see some of the inner workings of 4X4 and man does that place run like a well oiled machine. Forget what everyone sees out front, they have 4 people whose only job is washing sheets, towels, and robes, another two women folding, and yet two more packaging the robes and towels. God knows how many room attendants they have. They have 3 different rooms where pairs of guys were doing hair and make up, and on the top floor, they have the "General Store" where the girls can spend the Reals they make on anything from vibrators to Victoria's Secret Lotions. I was amazed to see how many people they employee and how seemless their operation flows. Somebody is making a shitload of money out of that place.
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Hi Folks,
Anyone know if a Mimi still works from Balcony Bar? Short, lots of fun, speaks good English.
Cheers
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Brazilian Escort Sites
I've not been to Brazil before so was hoping some of you could help me shed a little light on Brazilian Escort Agencies. I found these sites:
[url]http://www.riosexsite.net/[/url]
[url]http://bellaspacompanhantes.com/[/url]
[url]http://www.mclass.com.br/[/url]
and there are some hot girls on there but my question is, are these photos genuine in your experience?
I happened to find the same girl with two agencies, on different continents!
[url]http://www.mclass.com.br/scripts/mclass.dll/det?codaco=1687&retorno=0&lin=1[/url]
[url]http://www.berkeley-girls.com/london_escorts/EvaBlake.1.925.htm[/url]
So clearly, some photos are fake but are there any reliable agencies or is better to pick up a girl from Help or elsewhere?
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Lancer, good posts, that is partially why 4x4 didn't connect with me, the almost assembly-line like feel to the place. FKKs in Germany had same effect on me, but I know many connoisseurs love these spots. In terms of efficiency and going into a safe controlled atmosphere Termas are great. You don't have to think and negotiate, zero worrying about safety. I did the math a few times, and the sheer number of clients they see, working often 6 days a week, the timed sessions...I can't get as excited about it as hiring a girl for a few days or meeting independent girl in a club. The experience sometimes leaves you realizing you are definitely involved in sex tourism.
I give 4x4 big credit for running a tight operation. Nice to know you can arrive on a plane and they will be open, they can be counted on and I respect what they've done. Just watch your head coming up the stairway ;-)
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Great Post
Great Post Lennox. I could not agree more about your view on 4X4. Similar to you, I like 4X4 and there are some great looking girls there. I too fell the assembly line nature of the business but not just at 4X4 but at all of the termas. Like Help, I think the Termas provide a important service. I usually make at least one stop at 4X4 on my trips to Rio and if Help really does close I might have to go more often.
[QUOTE=Lennox]Lancer, good posts, that is partially why 4x4 didn't connect with me, the almost assembly-line like feel to the place. FKKs in Germany had same effect on me, but I know many connoisseurs love these spots. In terms of efficiency and going into a safe controlled atmosphere Termas are great. You don't have to think and negotiate, zero worrying about safety. I did the math a few times, and the sheer number of clients they see, working often 6 days a week, the timed sessions...I can't get as excited about it as hiring a girl for a few days or meeting independent girl in a club. The experience sometimes leaves you realizing you are definitely involved in sex tourism.
I give 4x4 big credit for running a tight operation. Nice to know you can arrive on a plane and they will be open, they can be counted on and I respect what they've done. Just watch your head coming up the stairway ;-)[/QUOTE]
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Say it Ain't So Help
Been reading the form for the last couple of days and following very closely on the saga of Help. I for one do not like to see the closing of Help. On my first ever trip to Rio last August, all the girls I brought back to my apartment were from Help. And only one of them was a dud, well a half dud to be exact. Help is a great nightclub. I mean where else in Rio do you have a club full of GDPs waiting to be fuc*ed. And contrary to what a lot of people on this board say, the talent level of the GDPs is top notch. I had no problem finding 7-8/10 GDPs night in and night out.
That being said, I had already finalized my next trip prior to learning this rumor. I call this a rumor because it happens every year, a rumor spreads about Help closing only turns out to be false alarm. This year I'm hoping is no different from the previous years. I will go through with my trip as originally planned as I'm sure there are plenty of venues I can find GDPs outside of Help (Help just makes finding them easier). But I will check this forum frequently for the newest developments.
DC
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[QUOTE=Lancer520]
Cuatro Por Cuatro
So I wanted to post about ... .[/QUOTE]
Actually, it is Quatro , not Cuatro.
Quick portuguese lesson
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[QUOTE=Jwl18]I've not been to Brazil before so was hoping some of you could help me shed a little light on Brazilian Escort Agencies. I found these sites:
[url]http://www.riosexsite.net/[/url]
[url]http://bellaspacompanhantes.com/[/url]
[url]http://www.mclass.com.br/[/url]
and there are some hot girls on there but my question is, are these photos genuine in your experience?
I happened to find the same girl with two agencies, on different continents!
[url]http://www.mclass.com.br/scripts/mclass.dll/det?codaco=1687&retorno=0&lin=1[/url]
[url]http://www.berkeley-girls.com/london_escorts/EvaBlake.1.925.htm[/url]
So clearly, some photos are fake but are there any reliable agencies or is better to pick up a girl from Help or elsewhere?[/QUOTE]Check the forum list and you can find a thread "ad-hoc"
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[QUOTE=Funkignitor]what is the percentage of white, tan and dark skinned girls in 4x4?
would it be
35 percent white
50 percent tan
15 percent black[/QUOTE]I'll take all with big bundas, small big nipple titties, small waist, flat stomachs, hips, thighs, pretty feet and thick ankles as a package. You guys can have the rest.
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[QUOTE=Prosal]
1). As I said below, the 4 millions born-again X-tian evangelists of the Rio de Janeiro State are a fantastically powerful political force, and Gov. Sergio Cabral (Rio's governor) CAN'T make against the wish of those highly conservative people and of their preachers, which is moralizing the brasilian society and consequently cleaning Copacabana.
2). What created problems is that most of the sex tourists in Rio don't even pretend to be subtle about it. This isn't the brasilian way. Commercial sex clashes with Brasil's basic X-tian values and is tolerated only as long as it is kept on the down low, as in Sao Paulo.
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1.) How come Garotinho or his wife not in charge of Rio then? They make Bush looks like a Clinton .
2). If my memory serves me right, the city of Sao Paulo started shutting down erotic establishments long time before Rio did.
The point I am trying to make is that I will not be shedding any tears when Help closes down, or even when all the termas follow suit. Rio/Sampa are doing what they are doing for merely political purposes.
Also, realize that Brazil is more than Rio/ Sampa.
You like beach? Go to Vitoria- ES, Salvador-BA, the Nordest, etc. They have it all: sun & fun at much cheaper prices than Rio.
You like big urban cities? Go to Belo Horizonte-MG, Porto Alegre, Curitiba, etc. They also have plenty of fun at cheap prices .
Next time you are there, make sure to Descrobir o Brasil
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[QUOTE=Ricton]Hi Folks,
Anyone know if a Mimi still works from Balcony Bar? Short, lots of fun, speaks good English.
Cheers[/QUOTE]Any photo's?
Lots off women work from Balconey bar.
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[QUOTE=Jwl18]I've not been to Brazil before so was hoping some of you could help me shed a little light on Brazilian Escort Agencies. I found these sites:
[url]http://www.riosexsite.net/[/url]
[url]http://bellaspacompanhantes.com/[/url]
[url]http://www.mclass.com.br/[/url]
and there are some hot girls on there but my question is, are these photos genuine in your experience?
I happened to find the same girl with two agencies, on different continents!
[url]http://www.mclass.com.br/scripts/mclass.dll/det?codaco=1687&retorno=0&lin=1[/url]
[url]http://www.berkeley-girls.com/london_escorts/EvaBlake.1.925.htm[/url]
So clearly, some photos are fake but are there any reliable agencies or is better to pick up a girl from Help or elsewhere?[/QUOTE]
Here are some additional links. I have had success with Karlas.
[url]http://www.karlamodels.net/principal.html[/url]
[url]http://www.ciaplus.com/index.htm[/url]
[url]http://www.megaclassrj.com/principal.htm[/url]
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[QUOTE=Bravo]Jamaicanceo, the brasilian boards say that Luana works in the terma, Black And White. Unfortunately, the terma is smack dab in the middle of a super dangerous favela called Bonsucesso. I know taxi drivers who wont enter that area, not even during the day time. Even other brasilians have told me that it is very dangerous to travel there.[/QUOTE]
Last Saturday, I was at a baile funk in Nova Holanda. Yes, it is dangerous if you do not know the right people. That's CV territory.
A mongering note, lotsa hotties. However, most civilians did not speak to me because of my company. In fact, they maintained a distance, at all times. A disadvantage of knowing the right people.
I did spend the night in NH. Always dangerous to leave a favela at late night, as your may engage the PM enroute to your apto. Also, when you leave in the morn, check with the local bandits as to when the PMs leave the entrada, so to bypass any confrontation....becuase you will stick out.
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[QUOTE=Bravo]Jamaicanceo, the brasilian boards say that Luana works in the terma, Black And White. Unfortunately, the terma is smack dab in the middle of a super dangerous favela called Bonsucesso. I know taxi drivers who wont enter that area, not even during the day time. Even other brasilians have told me that it is very dangerous to travel there.[/QUOTE]Bravo, I am not sure if I said thank you.
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4x4 salons
[QUOTE=Lancer520]So I wanted to post about this while I was in Rio but I forgot. I got to see some of the inner workings of 4X4 and man does that place run like a well oiled machine. Forget what everyone sees out front, they have 4 people whose only job is washing sheets, towels, and robes, another two women folding, and yet two more packaging the robes and towels. God knows how many room attendants they have. They have 3 different rooms where pairs of guys were doing hair and make up, and on the top floor, they have the "General Store" where the girls can spend the Reals they make on anything from vibrators to Victoria's Secret Lotions. I was amazed to see how many people they employee and how seemless their operation flows. Somebody is making a shitload of money out of that place.[/QUOTE]"They have 3 different rooms where pairs of guys were doing hair and make up"
Three? Where are they? I have only seen the one below the general store, above the relax room, where one often waits for a room.
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[QUOTE=Dwilso39]This is the argument the owners have be making for a long time to try and defend themselves. Help is a Discotech; Plain an simple. There are not rooms, there is not sex on-sight, and they don't advertise as a termas. So yes, the government can own the land and lease it back to the current operatertors.[/QUOTE]
I think a lot of this has to do with Rio's bid to host the Olympics. Can't put on a show for the world with hookers on the main drag! And what about little Johnny athlete after hours? After a night in Help, he's not going to break any records! :-) I don't think that they will bother VM because its off the beaten path. You won't find any news crews there, unless they are there to party.
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Mimi from Balcony
[QUOTE=JohnnyBraz]Any photo's?
Lots off women work from Balconey bar.[/QUOTE]Yeah! Guess so! Photos I had were on a phone that got stolen.
She used to hang with a gil called Leticia and another called Bianca.
Thanks anyway.
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well, almost correct ...
[QUOTE=Lennox]Lancer, good posts, that is partially why 4x4 didn't connect with me, the almost assembly-line like feel to the place. FKKs in Germany had same effect on me, but I know many connoisseurs love these spots. In terms of efficiency and going into a safe controlled atmosphere Termas are great. You don't have to think and negotiate, zero worrying about safety. I did the math a few times, and the sheer number of clients they see, working often 6 days a week, the timed sessions...I can't get as excited about it as hiring a girl for a few days or meeting independent girl in a club. The experience sometimes leaves you realizing you are definitely involved in sex tourism.
I give 4x4 big credit for running a tight operation. Nice to know you can arrive on a plane and they will be open, they can be counted on and I respect what they've done. Just watch your head coming up the stairway ;-)[/QUOTE]
Lennox,
4x4 is only open five days a week, not six. The Copa termas are typically open every day (except holidays), but the centro termas usually shut down for the weekend.
If you just goto 4x4 to allow yourself to be processed, then yes, it is assembly line like. But I like to go there also for the raunchy atmosphere, the drinking, all of the playing. Observe how the locals approach the game in 4x4: most cannot afford to take a girl to a room, but they still have a great time.
Here is another wrinkle to the game that I like to play: getting the terma girls to spend after hours or the weekend with you. Yes, often I go to termas (an also German FKKs) just for the purpose of having great sex with many girls. But once in a while I treat the time inside the terma just as an audition to get the girls over to my hotel for TLN. And, BTW, in all cases (with one single exception) after hour sex or weekend sex were freebies. :D I find that treating the girls nice and pretending that this is not an assembly line job is the key to getting much better service.
euro
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[QUOTE=Edward M]"They have 3 different rooms where pairs of guys were doing hair and make up"
Three? Where are they? I have only seen the one below the general store, above the relax room, where one often waits for a room.[/QUOTE]
One was in just a regular room on the same floor as the store(I guess that's the 4th floor or maybe 3rd) in the same area as the cabinas. The only reason I noticed was the door was open. I was lost wandering around that place but nobody seemed to mind. The other one was a floor below that one again through a regular door but on the same floor as the one where you can see while waiting for your cabina.
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Is there any place on earth better than 4X4?
I've been around the world including FKK's all over SEA. I haven't came across anyplace with the quality or quantity as 4X4. Is it just me or do you guys know of a better place on earth?????
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terma girls
[QUOTE=Euro100]Lennox,
4x4 is only open five days a week, not six. The Copa termas are typically open every day (except holidays), but the centro termas usually shut down for the weekend.
If you just goto 4x4 to allow yourself to be processed, then yes, it is assembly line like. But I like to go there also for the raunchy atmosphere, the drinking, all of the playing. Observe how the locals approach the game in 4x4: most cannot afford to take a girl to a room, but they still have a great time.
Here is another wrinkle to the game that I like to play: getting the terma girls to spend after hours or the weekend with you. Yes, often I go to termas (an also German FKKs) just for the purpose of having great sex with many girls. But once in a while I treat the time inside the terma just as an audition to get the girls over to my hotel for TLN. And, BTW, in all cases (with one single exception) after hour sex or weekend sex were freebies. :D I find that treating the girls nice and pretending that this is not an assembly line job is the key to getting much better service.
euro[/QUOTE]
I would agree, I often go just to connect for the weekend. Just as last weekend when I was in town I went on Wed, Thurs, and Friday night. I only sessioned on Thursday because I needed to let a couple girls know I was in town. Friday night and Sat one of the more popular 4x4 girls came by to visit for free other than lunch on the beach and a return taxi for Saturday. I just love this place. If you visit and treat the girls nice you will have a lot of freebies.. Can not wait for my return trip in June. Maybe sooner if the tickets stay cheap. Just my 2 cents
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Recent Price list of 4x4
Hi
My last and only visit to Rio was in 2005 and I enjoyed my time in Centro termas, especially Terma 4x4 and Terma 502. I am going again in early May, 09 and plan to visit these two termas again. Is there anyone who can kindly give us update on the recent price structure of Terma 4x4 and other Centro termas?
Thanks
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Lorenzo's Report
A while back Lorenzo wrote a really excellent report including a price list for 4 X 4. As many other veterans will suggest, next time RTF*, saying it mildly. The entrance fee is 40 Reals.
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=783473&postcount=6786[/url]
[QUOTE=Kamking1]Hi
My last and only visit to Rio was in 2005 and I enjoyed my time in Centro termas, especially Terma 4x4 and Terma 502. I am going again in early May, 09 and plan to visit these two termas again. Is there anyone who can kindly give us update on the recent price structure of Terma 4x4 and other Centro termas?
Thanks[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Voyajer1]A while back Lorenzo wrote a really excellent report including a price list for 4 X 4. As many other veterans will suggest, next time RTF*, saying it mildly. The entrance fee is 40 Reals.
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=783473&postcount=6786[/url][/QUOTE]
Thanks mate for your kind response.
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[QUOTE=Kamking1]Hi
My last and only visit to Rio was in 2005 and I enjoyed my time in Centro termas, especially Terma 4x4 and Terma 502. I am going again in early May, 09 and plan to visit these two termas again. Is there anyone who can kindly give us update on the recent price structure of Terma 4x4 and other Centro termas?
Thanks[/QUOTE]
I could be wrong, but I thought entrance at 4x4 was 30 reals not 40. For sure, the rates for the simple cabina are 180 Reals for 40 minutes and 200 Reals for an hour. Somebody let me know if I am wrong about the entrance fee. Also if you take a girl to the cabina before 5pm, there is no entrance fee.
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[QUOTE=Lancer520]I could be wrong, but I thought entrance at 4x4 was 30 reals not 40. For sure, the rates for the simple cabina are 180 Reals for 40 minutes and 200 Reals for an hour. Somebody let me know if I am wrong about the entrance fee. Also if you take a girl to the cabina before 5pm, there is no entrance fee.[/QUOTE]
I was wondering the same thing. I am thinking of either Rio or Germany for my next trip....Last time I was in Rio was in 2005 and it was R$35 to enter (waived if you took a girl before 5pm). and R$190 for 40 minutes in a cabin.....I am sure it has gone up...also what are prices at Solarium now, my other favorite termas
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[QUOTE=DFWdude]I was wondering the same thing. I am thinking of either Rio or Germany for my next trip....Last time I was in Rio was in 2005 and it was R$35 to enter (waived if you took a girl before 5pm). and R$190 for 40 minutes in a cabin.....I am sure it has gone up...also what are prices at Solarium now, my other favorite termas[/QUOTE]
I know the cabina prices at 4x4 are 180 and 200 for sure. Don't remember if they have gone up since last year but this was the prices as of last Wed. And definitely no entry fee if you take a girl to a room before 5. Somebody correct me if i'm wrong about entry at 4x4. All the bunda has made me a little forgetful. LOL
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[QUOTE=Lancer520]I know the cabina prices at 4x4 are 180 and 200 for sure. Don't remember if they have gone up since last year but this was the prices as of last Wed. And definitely no entry fee if you take a girl to a room before 5. Somebody correct me if i'm wrong about entry at 4x4. All the bunda has made me a little forgetful. LOL[/QUOTE]Your correct. No entry fee if you take a girl before 5:00.
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Back early flight from Belem today. And, much as I love Belem, possibly even more than Rio (though not for the rather average mongering facilities), there are things about Rio other than the obvious sugary loafs and things.
Like being able to roll in at literally any hour of the day or night and get laid.
And thinking on muggings, although the rate might be high, is it not one of the better cities to be mugged in? You can be reasonably sure that there is a low likelihood of violence unless youi initiate it. So if you don´t carry much worth stealing it is maybe about as inconvenient as getting caught in a bad rainstorm. And although I am not keen to provide updates - it´s a few years now since I´ve been mugged or robbed - where else will the robber often give you your taxi or bus fare home afterwards?
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[QUOTE=Cho 637]I think a lot of this has to do with Rio's bid to host the Olympics. Can't put on a show for the world with hookers on the main drag! And what about little Johnny athlete after hours? After a night in Help, he's not going to break any records! :-) I don't think that they will bother VM because its off the beaten path. You won't find any news crews there, unless they are there to party.[/QUOTE]
Because of security reasons, the athletes don't leave the Olympic village.
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[QUOTE=Christopherd]Back early flight from Belem today.[/QUOTE]
Christopherd, have you been to O Lapinha in Belem ?
This place was in its heydays (mid 90s) one of the the coolest drinking hole on the planet and I'm VERY curious to know what it's like since it reopened a few monthes ago after some 8 years of closure.
You're right, Belem is, with Sao Luis, the most captivating city in Brasil IMO.
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The entry at 4x4 is $40R if you session after 5pm or don't session at all. The prices at 4x4 went up sometime last year.
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I can see clearly now
the tourists are gone. I can see all obstacles in my way
Gone are the dark clouds that had me blind
It’s gonna be a bright (bright), bright (bright)
Sun-Shiny day.
Walking on Copacabana beach at noon today I was amazed at how few people were out and how the beach was so vacant. Maybe the favela wars had some impact.
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[QUOTE=Exec Talent]Walking on Copacabana beach at noon today I was amazed at how few people were out and how the beach was so vacant. Maybe the favela wars had some impact.[/QUOTE]
Maybe they just think it´s gonna deluge again like it did last night . . .
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Favela Wars???
What is that all about???
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Favela Wars
[QUOTE=Lancer520]What is that all about???[/QUOTE]
Apparantly, the druglords of Rocinha are trying to take over the Ladeira dos Tabajaras favela in Copacana as well as Morro dos Cabritos in Lagoa:
[url]http://www.estadao.com.br/noticias/cidades,policiamento-e-reforcado-apos-tiroteio-na-ladeira-dos-tabajaras,343907,0.htm[/url]
"Policiamento é reforçado após tiroteio na Ladeira dos Tabajaras
Na segunda, tiroteio deixou cinco mortos e assustou moradores de Copacabana, na zona sul do Rio
Pedro Dantas e Solange Spigliatti - O Estado de S. Paulo e estadao.com.br
SÃO PAULO - O policiamento na região da Ladeira dos Tabajaras, em Copacabana, na zona sul do Rio, foi reforçado nesta ***ça-feira, 24. O reforço chega após os tiroteios que aconteceram durante todo o dia e noite de segunda-feira. Nesta manhã, 120 homens da Polícia Militar realizam mais uma operação na Ladeira dos Tabajaras. Antes da ação policial, comércio, escolas e creches funcionavam normalmente.
Desde sábado, quando uma quadrilha de traficantes da Rocinha tentou tomar os pontos de droga na Ladeira dos Tabajaras, cinco supostos traficantes morreram, 18 criminosos foram presos e 21 armas apreendidas. Até o meio da manhã não houve troca de tiros, mas a polícia estima que dez traficantes da Rocinha ainda estariam nas matas no entorno da Ladeira dos Tabajaras.
Para ajudar no reforço, agentes do Batalhão Florestal da Polícia Militar também vão se juntar aos demais policiais no patrulhamento e para uma operação na mata da região em busca de criminosos.
No fim da tarde da segunda, quatro acusados de tráfico morreram em uma das ruas mais movimentadas do turístico bairro carioca. Eles seriam criminosos da Favela da Rocinha, em São Conrado, que desde a noite de sábado tentam invadir a Ladeira dos Tabajaras. O quinto homem morreu pouco depois de dar entrada no Hospital Miguel Couto, no início da tarde. Outros cinco baleados permaneciam internados.
Guerra entre traficantes
A guerra entre traficantes rivais trouxe pânico a moradores de três bairros da zona sul carioca. Humaitá, Copacabana e Botafogo convivem desde domingo com tiroteios intensos na Ladeira dos Tabajaras. Segundo a Assessoria de Imprensa da Polícia Militar, no fim da tarde de segunda, PMs suspeitaram dos homens que estavam em uma van na esquina das ruas Santa Clara e Toneleiros.
Os policiais se aproximaram do carro, mas teriam sido recebidos a tiros. Os quatro homens fugiram a pé, mas foram atingidos pelos policiais e morreram. Outros dois homens que estavam na van foram presos. Por causa do embate, o Túnel Velho, que liga Copacabana a Botafogo, foi fechado.
Até o início da noite de segunda, outros 13 homens haviam sido presos. Parte deles, quando tentava fugir, fez operários reféns em uma obra no Humaitá. Os suspeitos queriam roubar uniformes dos operários para escapar do cerco policial. A PM viu a abordagem, negociou a libertação dos operários e prendeu os criminosos.
Os policiais permaneceram pelas ruas do bairro e pela mata que dá acesso à Ladeira dos Tabajaras durante todo o dia à procura dos invasores. Dois helicópteros foram usados para tentar localizá-los de cima. Cerca de 124 crianças ficaram sem aulas ontem na Creche Tia Sonia Crispiniano, na Ladeira dos Tabajaras, que foi fechada. Escolas de bairros como Botafogo também liberaram alunos.
Parte do comércio em Copacabana fechou por causa dos tiros. Segundo a PM, pelo menos 30 homens da Rocinha, comandada pela facção criminosa Amigos dos Amigos, teria participado da invasão ao Tabajaras, que é liderado por traficantes do Comando Vermelho. A operação da PM contou com 120 homens de 11 batalhões. Foram apreendidas sete pistolas, três espingardas, uma carabina, um fuzil e nove granadas."
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Favela Wars
Since I can't read portugese, how close did this fighting get to the beach???
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[QUOTE=Lancer520]Since I can't read portugese, how close did this fighting get to the beach???[/QUOTE]
From what i've read on the subject 3 blocks Santa Clara and Barato Ribero
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My observations from my Trip last week part 1
I just got back from a week in Rio and these are my observations.
To give some background, this is my 4th time to Rio over the course of 5 years and I have always had a great time on all of my trips but this one wasn’t worth the 23 hour roundtrip plane ride.
I’m not sure if it was the friends I brought down or just a couple of bad coincidences.
I traveled with 2 of my buddies this time, one who is an experienced monger and the other who was just going down for the "experience". I knew this was going to be bad Karma when the first words out of his mouth once we landed in Rio was "I changed my mind, I just can’t pay for it. " I’m thinking to myself great than what the fuck did you come for. But I held my tongue and just said cool, do what ever you feel comfortable with.
So the first place we go is Luomo. We are somewhat early we get there at 5pm, take showers and go relax at the bar. We order a couple of drinks and I notice that the girls are just talking to each other and the hottest girls are only interested in talking to this American guy who is sitting in a corner by himself. After an hour I pull over to the bar a smoking hot, tall, somewhat skinny, really cute girl and I tell her to grab her 2 friends she was talking with to talk with my buddies. So my buddy who said he will not pay for it ask his girl for a massage! What an idiot. , I just look at him and laugh! My other buddy is talking to I think the hottest girl in Luomo and decided to take her for a session. I wasn’t going to be left talking with my lame buddy at the bar so I told the sexy, skinny chick that it was time for us to do a session! It was fantastic. She was so cute. BBBJ, couple positions later and done! She was so cute I actually was UP again in about 5 minutes (this never happens) so we tried again, she was trying really hard to get me to go again but I couldn’t so we stopped and just cuddled. Great girl and excellent experience. A bit on the expensive side, I’m not sure what it cost in Reals but my credit card was charged $135US for a 40 minute session and 3 beers.
Oh, my buddy that decided to do a massage session with his girl found out the hard way that you don’t go to Rio to get a massage! His dream girl brought him into the massage room across from the Buffet table and then a professional masseuse came in to do the job. He said she was old and unattractive. I may have seemed sympathetic to his situation but I was really laughing inside.
We then went to Lapa and had a really good time at some of the bars there! Really fun everyone in the streets having a good time. About a 20 minute cab ride from Copa.
Ok, next day we go to 4x4, this has always been my favorite place. Well this time around would be different. Now my other friend who is an experienced monger starts to get a conscious saying "this is bad all of these guys with wives at home" I’m like dude are you kiddin me right now you are in a room with 75 of the hottest girls you’ve ever seen and all you can think about are dudes? ! What is this world coming too. ?
Now here is the crazy part. After scoping out the place for 30-40 minutes I finally found "the one" she has long straight blond hair, ass to die for and nice tits. I gently grab her waist and say "Hi, please come here, lets have a chat" she ignores me. I’m thinking huh, maybe she didn’t hear me. So I say it again and she ignores me. My buddy is like are you getting rejected by a GDP? I said well, I didn’t think that was possible. Never happened before. So I try one more time and then she turns around looks me dead in the eye and said "what do you want? I don’t speak English! " then she walks off. I couldn’t believe this kind of attitude in what is suppose to be the happiest place! Needless to say this got me pissed off. Has anyone ever experienced this before with a Terma girl? I’m in excellent shape by most standards and considered good looking. I just couldn’t understand this attitude for no reason! Since my spirits were low, I mean getting rejected by a hooker is about as low as it can get. I took the next hottie walking by without any screening (biggest mistake)! We make it upstairs, I actually got a shower in my 40 minute room which was a bonus. She hands me a towel and asked me if I was going to shower.
To be Cont.
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I went to BA 85 today. The first floor has some new girls. A few are hot. The second floor has been revamped. I guess they got word of Christophed's description (accurate) of the place. I did not go into the back rooms but will before I leave. Renata was on the 2nd floor. SHe remembers me and wants me to do her. I will on saturday. She is usually one of my last girls when in Rio.
I did a skinny black girl on the 3rd floor today. She was parading around with no drawers on, so you know I had to do it! BBBJ was nice.
I ate at the Copa Grill. More of you should go here. There are always girls in their. The place has good food, not expensive, and they do not mind GDPs.
I took a shower and picked up my blond girl. SHe will remain nameless but most of you know who I mean (K). SHe says Help is not going to close. In fact, mant GDPs are saying that they hear HELP is not going to close no matter what we are hearing. This is Brazil, they say, and money talks (but isn't that everywhere?).
Tomorrow I go to centro again. I will bang Carol from 1st floor BA 85. It's been a long time coming...
TJ
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Penthouse article on Rio
fyi,
this month's penthouse has an excerpt from my mongering book "around the world in 80 lays."
the excerpt's got good info on rio, especially for newbies. you can read it at [url]http://riojoe.com/rioph.htm[/url].
(the book's out in may, but if you want a "sneak peek" at the cover, it's at [url]http://riojoe.com/jkt.jpg[/url].)
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[quote=rio joe]fyi,
this month's penthouse has an excerpt from my mongering book "around the world in 80 lays."
the excerpt's got good info on rio, especially for newbies. you can read it at [url]http://riojoe.com/rioph.htm[/url].
(the book's out in may, but if you want a "sneak peek" at the cover, it's at [url]http://riojoe.com/jkt.jpg[/url].)[/quote]
that's a pretty good article. i'm gonna use it as bait to lure some of my friends to rio. the end part about not wanting to look at american girls when you get home is so true. i was at a club in nyc last night and all i could think about is bunda. does this make me a bad person???
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[QUOTE=Lancer520]Since I can't read portugese, how close did this fighting get to the beach???[/QUOTE]
The entrance to Ladeira dos Tabajeiras is virtually across the street from L'Uomo.
EA
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[QUOTE=El Austriaco]The entrance to Ladeira dos Tabajeiras is virtually across the street from L'Uomo.
EA[/QUOTE]
And I was just telling someone today that I thought Rio was a lot safer then in previous trips. That's kinda scary knowing I walked to and from Luomo 3 times last week. Can't they keep there Favela wars in the hills and leave our mongering mecca alone.
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[QUOTE=TJ Fannatic]I went to BA 85 today. The first floor has some new girls. A few are hot. The second floor has been revamped. I guess they got word of Christophed's description (accurate) of the place. I did not go into the back rooms but will before I leave. Renata was on the 2nd floor. SHe remembers me and wants me to do her. I will on saturday. She is usually one of my last girls when in Rio.
I did a skinny black girl on the 3rd floor today. She was parading around with no drawers on, so you know I had to do it! BBBJ was nice.
I ate at the Copa Grill. More of you should go here. There are always girls in their. The place has good food, not expensive, and they do not mind GDPs.
I took a shower and picked up my blond girl. SHe will remain nameless but most of you know who I mean (K). SHe says Help is not going to close. In fact, mant GDPs are saying that they hear HELP is not going to close no matter what we are hearing. This is Brazil, they say, and money talks (but isn't that everywhere?).
Tomorrow I go to centro again. I will bang Carol from 1st floor BA 85. It's been a long time coming...
TJ[/QUOTE]
Great report, where is copa grill?
Thanks
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Oh Please
[quote=rio joe]fyi,
this month's penthouse has an excerpt from my mongering book "around the world in 80 lays."
the excerpt's got good info on rio, especially for newbies. you can read it at [url]http://riojoe.com/rioph.htm[/url].
(the book's out in may, but if you want a "sneak peek" at the cover, it's at [url]http://riojoe.com/jkt.jpg[/url].)[/quote]
not this self-promoting mindless drivel writer again!
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I was before 10 ten days in Rio
I was before 10 days in Rio, he help me very much the budha report and I had a very good company with some guys here from the forum.
Personal from my trip in Rio I check some termas and of course the help discoteque. I went to 4x4, solarium and monte carlo, every one of them had something diferent, for example the 4x4 for me had the most interesting girls for my taste but so many people, monte carlo had more relax place to move, to speak with a girl but no so many girls and solarium had very small place for to move but had some girls very pretty, for first time in Rio the termas wa a very good experience for me
Help discoteque. I had listen too much for this but I think for me is better to go simply for a drink with friends and to take a girl only 1 or 2 times in a week, personal I was lucky I took a girl who had birthday and she celebrate with me in my room hehehehehehe
Something who I could not to check was the game in the beach nad I think if I come back to Rio this is the first thing who I want to check because I had the sensetation that the game in the beach have more fun.
Final I want to tell the Rio for me it don't want to afraid it but you must focus in every move very good for don't have problems
I know I know I don't speak so good english!
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Maybe the girl at 44 had a bad experience with a guy upstairs and you were the first guy who approached her when she got back. If thats the first time thats happened, than you caught her at a bad moment. I wouldn't be surprised if she is close to quitting the biz. As far as your buddies go. You need to go solo or find new wingmen. Who the fuck complains about the guys cheating on their wives, and getting all "moral" on ya. I not paying for sex. Wahh. You should have said get divorced and you will get much needed experience in paying.
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Drug war
[QUOTE=Lancer520]Since I can't read portugese, how close did this fighting get to the beach???[/QUOTE]
The action nearest to the Copacabana beach was at the intersection of rua Santa Clara and rua Toneleiro (about 5 blocks from Ave Atlantica,) where the police ambushed a van in which the bandits were attempting to flee the area. Police opened fire and killed 4 trafficantes. Most of the action occurred on the other side of the mountains in the bairos of Humaita and Botofogo. Police captured 18 banditos in the underbrush of the mountain. This was a very dangerous situation for residents of all of these communities.
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[QUOTE=Koolkid]Great report, where is copa grill?
Thanks[/QUOTE]
[url]http://copagrill.com.br/[/url]
Good stuff. I pay normally about 15-20 reals total.
And as I said this place is popular with the girls. This is where they go to eat off Atlantic Avenue.
Nice quiet atmosphere most of the time. No need to pay a tip.
It is located on the very North end of Copacabana, near Leme.
TJ
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100R wiser?
Quite ironic that I should be able to provide an update after my post on thieves in Rio, but here goes. Embarrassing to admit, as one feels stupid for letting it happen. But we learn from our mistakes and those of others so am posting an account in the small hope that perhaps it will minimise such occurrences for other people.
[b]Mistake one[/b] I want to wear a new pair of shorts I bought last week from Rio Sul. Nice stuff. Would look good on the beach in Leblon or Ipanema but far to expensive to wear to Mimosa without attracting attention.
[b]Mistake two[/b] They only have one pocket. My usual practice, following the habit of many Brasilians, is to keep money for immediate use in one pocket and top-ups somewhere else. Yet even with just one pocket I would normally put stuff down the front of my pants or in my shoes. Tonight I don´t.
[b]Mistake three[/b] Getting rolled in VM is so rare it is easy to let one´s guard down (I´ve only been robbed once before, many years ago, out of hundreds of punts there.) The girl is doing constant chat and porno histrionics as I touch her. Instead of listening to warning bells – after all some girls start doing this just to try to please – I just focus on winning her round.
I went upstairs with about 120 in my pocket – what was left after calculating four punts and drinks if I stayed all night plus a taxi if the weather turned very bad. Checking my cash after I leave the casa I have 22R. I keep my cash in a rubber band – there is virtually no chance of ´dropping some´accidentally. Only the large notes had been taken. There was virtually no chance of getting the money back and this influenced how I handled it (will mention this in a subsequent post if people want to comment/contribute). Main harm was feeling a dumb-ass.
The casa was casa 10, roughly the second on the right as you enter the the U-alley when you come into VM. But I don´t think she was a regular there and the casa is not responsible for the girls. Her name is Sara and she´s a pretty young thing, probably early twenties. Mousey brown hair, well-kept appearance, average height and build. She was wearing a gold cross around her neck on Tuesday, and her firm breasts looked temptingly squeezable under her bra-less top. Half way through (presumably after accomplishing her mission) she quietened down and gave quite a reasonable performance.
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[QUOTE=TJ Fannatic][url]http://copagrill.com.br/[/url]
Good stuff. I pay normally about 15-20 reals total.
And as I said this place is popular with the girls. This is where they go to eat off Atlantic Avenue.
Nice quiet atmosphere most of the time. No need to pay a tip.
It is located on the very North end of Copacabana, near Leme.
TJ[/QUOTE]
This looks good. I'm gonna check this out when I arrive, then go to some of the boates in the area and make a night of it.
Thanks
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[QUOTE=Lancer520]That's a pretty good article. I'm gonna use it as bait to lure some of my friends to Rio. The end part about not wanting to look at American girls when you get home is so true. I was at a club in NYC last night and all I could think about is bunda. Does this make me a bad person???[/QUOTE]
Bunda On The Brain is a perfectly normal condition experienced by most healthy red-blooded American males after exposure to the tropical species Garota Carioca. If American girls really want to know what makes us tick, they can learn plenty from Brasileiras.
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BA85 clarification
Someone posted that the 2nd floor has cleaned its act up as far as the disgusting cabins are concerned.
I thought I´d just mention something as there are users here from all over the world. In the UK, the ´first´ floor of a building is the second storey, the one above ground level, whereas in America the first floor is the one [i]at[/i] ground level. Brasil seems inconsistent. Modern buildings tend to follow the American model and the ´first floor´ is the one at ground level. But at BA85 there is a notice as you go in I seem to recall that mentions casas on floors 1 to 6 (Brasil has a separate phrase for ground floor - andar térreo). As there are no casas on the ground level there, I have generally used the UK model and referred to the shit-hole floor as the ´second´ floor where Renata works. Americans might tend to think of this as the ´3rd floor´.
I went in the first floor that has casas yesterday afternoon (UK 1st floor, US 2nd floor) and the cabins were kind of ok, not brillliant. I don´t usually use that floor as most of the women seem rather hefty, but I got a nice slim blonde with a pretty face so didn´t go further.
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[QUOTE=Poucolouco]The action nearest to the Copacabana beach was at the intersection of rua Santa Clara and rua Toneleiro (about 5 blocks from Ave Atlantica,) where the police ambushed a van in which the bandits were attempting to flee the area. Police opened fire and killed 4 trafficantes. Most of the action occurred on the other side of the mountains in the bairos of Humaita and Botofogo. Police captured 18 banditos in the underbrush of the mountain. This was a very dangerous situation for residents of all of these communities.[/QUOTE]
Although the TV played it up I doubt if any tourists need worry. I stay on the Leme/Copa side, and didn´t hear anything. Last time there was a real battle I could see tracers lighting up the sky for hours. People were crossing NS Copa with care and huddling over their beers in Prado. But as Poucolouco says, not nice for the people living on the Botofogo side.
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Orkut???
Has anyone been on this site Orkut. I guess it is google's version of myspace or facebook. One of my GDP friends who's now living in Switzerland told me she was on it. When I signed up and let the computer go through to scan for people I knew on there, I found a bunch of Help girls including Paula that I was with on my last night. It's funny how many of the girls on there have pics with the shinny blue walls of Help. Seems like this is the social networking site of the younger Brazilian generation.
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[QUOTE=Lancer520]Has anyone been on this site Orkut. I guess it is google's version of myspace or facebook. One of my GDP friends who's now living in Switzerland told me she was on it. When I signed up and let the computer go through to scan for people I knew on there, I found a bunch of Help girls including Paula that I was with on my last night. It's funny how many of the girls on there have pics with the shinny blue walls of Help. Seems like this is the social networking site of the younger Brazilian generation.[/QUOTE]Orkut is as popular in Brazil as Facebook is in the U.S. Almost every Brazilian is on it.
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Orkut
[QUOTE=Lancer520]Has anyone been on this site Orkut. I guess it is google's version of myspace or facebook. One of my GDP friends who's now living in Switzerland told me she was on it. When I signed up and let the computer go through to scan for people I knew on there, I found a bunch of Help girls including Paula that I was with on my last night. It's funny how many of the girls on there have pics with the shinny blue walls of Help. Seems like this is the social networking site of the younger Brazilian generation.[/QUOTE]
Yes it is the social network site. If you have non pros you might want to watch how many GDP's you add on the site. I am trying to limit the GDP's while I work on my non pros. If you go to any of the internet cafe's you will see all the girls checking their orkut pages. What I am now doing with pros and non pros is to have my computer or go to the internet cafe and see a cute girl and ask can she add you as a friend. (put that in Porto it will help better.) You can use orkut to keep up with your friends.
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chill day
Got to centro around 4pm. BA 85 had more guys than it did yesterday. Renata (pronounced Hey-nata) was standing outside the second floor again. The first floor still has the usual assortment of girls. I went back with Carol, a black girl. She gave a entusiastic, though slow, BBBJ. She then bent over doggie style and let me bang away as her head banged the wall with each thrust.
Lew (this is how is sounds, though I am sure the spelling is different) is still on the first floor. She has long, somewhat curly hair and is somewhat fat. I took a liking to her and she takes advantage of it. Today she kept my R7 of change.
There are some real big butts on the 4th floor. Kelly,the cute black girl who always wears the small, g-string thong (often a Braziian flag version) up her a**, is there.
On floor 3 there is one black girl with short hair who has a MEGA BUTT! She was running around naked today!
I still like the blonde 3rd floor bartender. She is really looking good these days. She used to be a working girl on floor 2. I banged her one slow Saturday. It is funny how these girls remember you because she knows me for sure. Today she had my beer ready for me when I walked in.
I spent about R50 total and decided to come home and chill.
I did eat at Copa Grill again (R14 for salmon, ham, carrot/raisian salad, soda, rice and beans).
Tomorrow should be wilder at BA 85. As the week goes on the girls get wilder. Last time I was here all the girls on floor one got drunk on Thusday.
Friday is a real meat market as these Brazilian guys show up with their paychecks. So I am chilling tonight so I can bang at least 3 tomorrow.
TJ
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copa grill
[QUOTE=Koolkid]This looks good. I'm gonna check this out when I arrive, then go to some of the boates in the area and make a night of it.
Thanks[/QUOTE]
Same street as Barbarellas. But unlike Barbarellas it's cheap and good value.
Sometimes has live music, always has GDPs, usually off duty. Quite often retired and 60+ but they still have that look, that way of looking you up and down and ascertaining if your are a chump or not. Great place for fun but lets face it the foods not that great. Its the VM of restaurants.
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Orkut
[QUOTE=Senb91]Orkut is as popular in Brazil as Facebook is in the U.S. Almost every Brazilian is on it.[/QUOTE]
I think the only country that its more popular in is India. Nearly every Puta in Brasil is on it. All the brasileiras in europe use it to "fofoca". And shit loads of mongers are on it as "friends".
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video termas 4x4 rio de janeiro
Video termas 4x4 rio de janeiro
[url]http://www.vimeo.com/3801972[/url]
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Thank You
[QUOTE=Abzsafado]Same street as Barbarellas. But unlike Barbarellas it's cheap and good value.
Sometimes has live music, always has GDPs, usually off duty. Quite often retired and 60+ but they still have that look, that way of looking you up and down and ascertaining if your are a chump or not. Great place for fun but lets face it the foods not that great. Its the VM of restaurants.[/QUOTE]
A Brazilian friend told me I had to try Copa Grill. I did and was not impressed. I went back one more time and my opinion did not change.
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1st Day
I arrived in Rio yesterday from Los Angeles. Went to Meia Pataca and saw a dog pound. However, I got horny and sessioned with a big shapely carioca named Jill. She did completa and let me cum on her face. She rubbed it over her face and said it was good for her complexion. She tooked anal real well. I also tried a new toy called the Vibrating Tip by Trojan. Just a finger vibrator good for snapping a garotas brain.
Will post more.
Tchau!
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(restaurant thread)
[QUOTE=Exec Talent]A Brazilian friend told me I had to try Copa Grill. I did and was not impressed. I went back one more time and my opinion did not change.[/QUOTE]
I´ve yet to find a Copa place that serves good food and allows/encourages GDPs. If people are looking at GDPs then the place can get away with average food. If you are in Barbarella´s area you can get hygeinically prepared good quality food at Cervantes (the stand up bar is best) or Copa VIP. Cervantes will pile several slices of [i]prime[/i] steak on a roll with pineapple and good melted cheese at 14R and the clientelle are the best (One such ´sandwich´often serves two people). VIP Rio has a one-day max on all food. Their lasagne is first rate at under 4R. The former is on the corner of Barata Ribeiro and Prado Junior. The latter a few yards further down on Prado and is also open early morning and only charges 2.5R for a good acai.
Copa Grill is a dive that maybe is ok if you are new to kilogramas. The food off the spit is ok but not the best cuts. Most of the self-service dishes are lukewarm - an ideal breeding ground for ill-health not to mention being unappetising.
[i]It would be nice if there were three threads for Rio - one to go on about food, one to say what a wonderful time one had dipping one´s dick, and one to actually provide information that is of practical use to other mongers seeking to meet women for paid sex.[/i]
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Clothing question
After reading christopherd's post on his experience in VM it got me to thinking,
What type of clothes will lets say 'attract attention' to myself when I vist Rio.
I plan on wearing adidas or Nike shorts and plain t-shirts to the beaches in Copa.
Cargo/camoflage shorts plain t-shirts and flip flops when going around copa or centro in the days eating and drinking etc.
Jeans shirts and trainers for my nightime activities.
Christopherd what is type of clothing that should be worn when entering VM. Do you mean no 'brand name' clothing? Just neutral colours etc?
Sorry this will be 1st trip and I would like it to be hassle free.
Thanks
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[QUOTE=Koolkid]After reading christopherd's post on his experience in VM it got me to thinking,
What type of clothes will lets say 'attract attention' to myself when I vist Rio.
I plan on wearing adidas or Nike shorts and plain t-shirts to the beaches in Copa.
Cargo/camoflage shorts plain t-shirts and flip flops when going around copa or centro in the days eating and drinking etc.
Jeans shirts and trainers for my nightime activities.
Christopherd what is type of clothing that should be worn when entering VM. Do you mean no 'brand name' clothing? Just neutral colours etc?
Sorry this will be 1st trip and I would like it to be hassle free.
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I´d actually scribbled a few notes down on this for a friend so may edit this post when I look at them.
VM - cheap, non-descript, scruffy Brasil-look clothing is good. As it´s your first trip, the easiest is to buy it when you get here (cheap - eg 10R or a shirt). When you get home again, sew a few pockets into the lining lol for your next trip. If you really want to bring all your clothing, a plain, dark colour teashirt is ok and very standard looking jeans. On Friday and Saturday there is a large non-monger presence immediately outside VM for the goth and metallica bars so I tend to wear black or dark colours those days especially.
Flip-flops,* especialy Brasilian ones, are good for almost anywhere, but I remember when I first came they took a while to get used to (uneven pavements). I wear non-Brasilian trainers simply cos they don´t seem able to make ones that are breathable and light. The ones I use mostly are that and also waterproof. Fancy name trainers or white trainers will stand out, so dirty them up a bit.
I think there´s also a tendency to go with the weather . . .
Hope this helps.
[color=gray] *The other disadvantages of flip-flops are that they are not so easy to run in should you need to move fast. They can also be slippy in a downpour.[/color]
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[QUOTE=Koolkid]Jeans shirts and trainers for my nightime activities.[/QUOTE]
This is rarely mentionned here but there is a pretty good upscale nightlife in Rio. And style and clothes are very important if you want to have success in Zona Sul or Barra trendy spots.
If your goal is to score freebies in mid to upper-class clubs, better be well dressed. As all girls around the world, brasileiras are obsessed with designers goods and actually really superficial in that aspect. If you are dressed too down you will be considered either as a cheap sex-tourist or a pathetic loser and your sex appeal will plummet. If you dress down, dress "cool" down ....but it still should look expensive and fancy !
For clubbing in upscale Rio or Sao Paulo, I personally usually wear exactly the same things that I wear in upscale Jakarta, Bucarest or Tashkent ...things like a discreetly labeled tee-shirt or a Zegna or Pal Zileri long sleeves shirt, stylish Armani jeans, a nice belt (D&G or this kind or shit) and fashion leather shoes.
I know. This sounds weird to 99% of the people here. But there is a life out of Copacabana and VM.
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[QUOTE=Prosal]
I know. This sounds weird to 99% of the people here. But there is a life out of Copacabana and VM.[/QUOTE]
Prosal is quite right. One dresses for the venue. For the upmarket places I personally prefer either designer labels you can get in Rio (such as Armani) or the exclusive Rio labels that you can get in Ipanema or (for certain things) even the top floors of Rio Sul. Showing you have money and taste works (at least with certain women). But showing you have cutting edge style is even better ;-)
The gentleman who put the question though mentioned it was his first visit and also that his planned places were the mongering venues, hence my answer. Perhaps the one exception is if you are the sort of chap who likes to get a taxi in and out of the whiskeria at 4x4. If I´ve been slumming it though I´m usually stright upstairs and into a robe.
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Quatro por Quatro video
[QUOTE=Salvatore X]Video termas 4x4 rio de janeiro
[url]http://www.vimeo.com/3801972[/url][/QUOTE]
It links to a L'Uomo clip. Is there a 4x4 clip there also?
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All the highlights on your first trip?
i´ve noticed quite a few people planning a first trip to rio and naturally wanting to do all the highlights. while the information is on the forum, you have to search through a lot of non-michelin stuff to find it. so by way of a re-cap in case it´s of help, here´s a possible ´lightning tour´.
1st day. if you´re staying in copacabana, you will probably just want to soak up the (over-priced but) very user-friendly ladies at help, the bar outside help and, further towards the leme end of copacabana, balcony.
2nd day. after help, the single biggest monger wonder-of-the-world for many people is 4x4. some prefer other high class termas, but for sheer impact i think 4x4 maybe gets the gold star. not knowing your way around, you probably take a (daytime) taxi into centro and get him to drop you at 4x4 (quatro por quatro). for less than you spend on a help girl, you get a selection of beauties and quite good service. after taking your time there (remember to explore the club with its many stairwells) you have an hour or 40 minutes with the beauty of your choice and take your leave before it gets dark.
taking a right as you come out of 4x4, you follow the narrow street (buenos aires). you cross the main highway (rio branco) and continue along less than 100 yards to ba85, a dirty opening in between the shops on your left. you ignore the broken elevator and the guy at the entrance and go up the tiny spiral staircase. on each floor is a bar (with cheap drinks) and a range of girls, all at about a tenth of what you paid in 4x4. you ignore the uglies, maybe take a hidden gem if you are ready for a second shot, or just store the info for your next visit.
coming out of ba85 you turn left and continue along the narrow street. you might look in at ba113 just to compare, though that is generally a bit off-putting.
soon you come to a bustling market. opposite, and slightly to your right, is a metro sign for uruguiana station. familiarise yourself with this bit as most people come to buenos aires by metro. if you know the area you won´t get thrown as you come up from the underground railway. this market and the area just beyond is also ok for buying cheap teashirts and any other stuff you want without paying copa prices.
after you´ve done your stuff here, make a left from coming out of buenos airies. you are now going along a largely pedestrianised area called rua uruguiana. you´ll see street magicians and comedians performing here. just before the end of the street, look for a news stand on your left. directly behind the news stand is the entrance to ba´s nearest competitor, uruguiana 24. same deal, 1r a minute on all floors or thereabouts, but the stairs are wide enough to pass. not that that will stop half naked girls trying to barr your way with their breasts and butts.
when you come out of uru 24, turn left and after a few yards you are on rua carioca, a busy street which crosses uruguiana at right angles. you will see the carioca metro stop straight ahead. instead of going across the paved area to the metro stop, turn right along rua carioca. look for a red canopy and you have found casarao, a club that is a tiny shade up from most 1r places. have a drink and see if anything takes your fancy.
when you come out of casarao, continue along rua carioca but cross over. just before the next street, look for the iris cinema (which you may want to avoid) and continue a few paces to carioca 59. the elevator here actually works, though you may find the stairs quicker. again, roughly 1r a minute. (there are dozens of places like this in centro, though i think these must be the biggest).
3rd day. suitably attired in your slumming clothes and not looking bright red from the beach, you head for vm. this is quite a short hop from carioca, and a bigger hop from copa. out towards maracana football stadium. the easiest way is to get a 455 bus and jump off straight after it speeds over the flyover, but as you are probably unaquainted with the area and with buses on your first visit, you might want to get a metro (most straightforward is sao cristovao, though not the nicest) and walk back the way (without crossing over) on a narrow footpath by the freeway until you come to the iron bridges at praca da bandeira where you turn left and then take the 2nd right. if you are nervous or exhausted you might take a taxi (getting out at bandeira if you want to look cool) or just driving all the way up. on your way back, you might want to walk round the corner to bandeira, both to familiarise yourself with the area and also to get a taxi in working order (a bit like not getting a taxi from outside help). to get a bus, cross all six lanes of traffic (by the bridge unless the roads are very quiet) and wait for one with copacabana on the front and flag it down. vm is 20r for the girl and between 5 & 8r for the room. you may save 1r by taking your own condoms.
this is just thrown up quickly as i´m aware of the need for a ´quickie´guide, so apologies for any typos.
[color=gray][i]of course, frequenting prostitutes will not be the main object of your trip lol. so you might want to do sugar loaf at sunset - you will remember it the rest of your life - a friday night in lapa, a stroll through the awesome botanics, a wander along a near-deserted stretch of barra beach, a boat to niteroi and the futuristic museum - and so on. if you don´t have a guidebook get a monthly guide from tourist information on princesa isabel (leme end of copa) next to frank´s bar.[/i] [/color]
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some additional thoughts on VM clothing . . .
Another point maybe worth considering in advance is, what are you going to do with your clothing when you take it off??
The cubicles vary a lot and price is not necessarily an indication. For instance, some have hooks to put clothes on and one or two even a small table. Many don´t. Some are badly lit. Some casas have plumbing or leaking roof problems and so the floor may be wet. Sometimes the door doesn´t lock or even shut properly or you have to leave it open a bit to get some light. Bearing in mind what you plan to do (or might do) sexually, how secure is your clothing? Is it near the door? Is it in a neat pile? Would you notice if anyone covertly interfered with it? Is anything likely to fall out of your pockets even without any help? Will it get wet or dirty?
I´d say maybe 80 per cent of the cubicles are ok if you don´t tear your clothes off and leave them randomly on the bed. I´d say maybe 98% of the girls are honest and won´t actively try to steal. Many will go out of their way to look after you and some will even indicate where to put your clothes safely. But you might want to be prepared.
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centro on a thursday
hit centro today about 2pm. ba 85 was even fuller, as it progressively gets more patrons as the week progresses. friday is a meat market! i am getting there real early and getting laid as often as possible.
today, i went to floor 4 and sessioned with melanie, she has more to her name, but this is what i call her. she is a thick blond with a cute face. she has a fairly big butt even for a brasilian. she gave me a cbj, although i read on a brazilian forum that she gives bbbj. my guess is that she does not if she does not know you. she asked lots of questions about who i was and if i was a carioca, etc.
i could not cum, probably because i was thinking about why she gave a cbj and other things. she started talking fast in porto and mentioned "difficil," or difficulty. man i told her straight out that i can get it up anytime. she laughed and told me to come back later. i am drinking lots of water and plan to spray her ass tomorrow. difficil, my a**!
i left for a short walk, ate a light lunch of a sandwhich and soda for r2, and went back, then hit the third floor and sessioned with chris (yeah, i admit at the time i was afraid to go back to the fourth floor). chris gave me a bb grind and bbbj. i actually came from the bb grind. man was this a strange day, i can't come with fine, big butt melanie, and then i ejaculate prematurely with skinny little chris!
i stopped by floor 2 and said hi to renata, who i will get with on saturday. floor 2 is the only one open on saturdays.
floor one is usually the busiest and it was today. i drank lots of beer and bought my girl lew a coke. she and some other girls left soon therafter and i got to see her in street clothes. man i think i am going to ask her out. she looks good in jeans.
i got drunk on the first floor and then headed back upstairs. chris grabbed me and begged me to bang her in the butt. i decided to do it and had a great time giving her what she said would be her last session of the day. she gives bbbjs. she is brown skinned, very skinny, but has a nice piece of booty back there. in doggie style she spreads those legs and you can really get in there. this is not really true of the big butt girls in rio generally.
i spent r$45 for the three sessions total.
i am nowhere close to be being on track for spending the money i changed to reals. so look for some reports later on luomo and monte carlo as i will try these spots out to spend some this extra loot.
i am hearing from the grapevine that the average rate in copa is now r200. this is the rate for even guys who have been coming for years, i hear.
i actually paid one girl r200 for about 4 hours but i then informed her that i will not be calling her again as i think that rate is not worth it for me.
i hope others take this tack too. r200 is about 80 dollars but on principle i think that is a lot of money in brazilian society, so i don't think i should have to pay it just because i have it.
anyway, i am having fun.
tj
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[QUOTE=ThaCTJohn]How is the street action in Brazil. How much cheaper are the street girls than the termas or help girls. I have heard you can find what we consider a ten here on the streets in RIO.[/QUOTE]John,
What's up. This is Tijuana from the Tijuana thread. Why are you just a regular member now? Anyway, I am not sure about street action. Rio is different in that all of the restaurants on the main street in Copocabana, Avenida Atlantica, have girls hanging around. In most places this would be considered street action. Usually this action is R150-200 (65-86 US dollars) for 2-4 hours. The girls in Rio do not usually watch the clock. This is much better than Mexico!
There are actually girls on the street corners at night but I think mostly Brazilians take advantage of this. These girls can actaually be more expensive. I got quoted R300 once. Then again a guy on another site said he got a few for 100-200 short time.
Tijuana
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I think
i think that in helpee the prirces are rising. they start from 500r, i do not know i was before 10 days in rio, and i pay 350 for a girl for all night, maybe i was rookie i saw these prices. maybe when i ll come back to rio negotiate better.
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[QUOTE=ThaCTJohn]How is the street action in Brazil. How much cheaper are the street girls than the termas or help girls. I have heard you can find what we consider a ten here on the streets in RIO.[/QUOTE]
Is this Country John from the TJ site?....
Anyways, like TJ said, the girls that hang around the restruants ae considered the street action, and they normally blow away he girls you will see down and Mexico. They WILL get naked and not try to charge you extra for the simple things that those girls down in Mexico try to get away with. Alot better service usually, also.
Chris H
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Thank you.
For the detailed post, on every return to Rio I learn something new. Last time spent some time in caxias. But its good to be back on tourist mode. Bringing a friend for his first time and its great to be able to expand on villa and 4x4. I will make sure to visit every floor of ba55.
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Ba 85
Hey Christopherd, thanks for the thorough summary on the places to hit in Centro. After reading Tijuana Fannatic's posts, I was really interested to find out more about BA 85. And now I know. I'm really into BA 85's kind of places where sex can be had for dirt cheap prices. What do you suggest as the best time of the day/week to go in terms of quantity of girls? You mentioned that these places roughly charge R1 per minute. So how do we pay the girls exactly? Is it like the termas where the time is predetermined (40 minutes or 1 hour) or it is like pay as you go (ie R18 for 18 minutes of sex)?
If I can sum up the courage to venture into Centro I would love to visit a couple of these places you mentioned in your post.
DC
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[QUOTE=ThaCTJohn]How is the street action in Brazil. How much cheaper are the street girls than the termas or help girls. I have heard you can find what we consider a ten here on the streets in RIO.[/QUOTE]
Most of the real streetwalkers are avoided by most mongers. Trannies on Atlantica. Girls sitting on bonnets of cars on Prado and Viv.d.Castro. There might be the odd do-able one as you come into Lapa and there´s places you´d probably not want to go where streetwalkers hang out such as Praca Tiradentes and worse. If one of them looks too good to be true, she probably is. Possibly too cracked out to even get into a restaurant or bar. On an early visit to Rio I picked up an awesome looking blonde - one of those that tries to stop traffic outside of Barbarella´s. We took a taxi. Before we got to my apartment - which in those days was only Siquera Campos area, less than half a mile - she had her hand in my pocket trying to take my money. Even when I dislocated her grip she had another shot, so spaced out was she. I had to physically throw her out of the taxi and slam the door.
As someone just mentioned, the more regular ´street´action is just girls hanging out in bars like Balcony and then doing a circuit of nearby bars to see if there´s any better prospects. These girls are usually ok, though not tens.
Not all the restaurants on Atlantica have working girls, though the girls will prowl between the ones that do. The main ones are Meia Pataca, Terraco, Balcony and Mabs - in these places anyone who is not a monger or PDP is a bit out of place lol. But there´s a lot of Copacabana that has nothing to do with mongering. You can´t just proposition any girl as if she was up for it.
As for tens, opinions may vary, but a lot of it is luck and perseverance. Help and 4x4 are good places to look if you want a straightforward pick-up. The best looking girl I´ve had - not including a gorgeous girl I lived with - and I would rate as a ten (as did several on the forum when I posted some limited pics) was from Mimosa, but that is rare. I don´t personally think there´s a lot of point in saying find so-and-so at such-and-such a place though as there are thousands of working girls and a large proportion change venues or work on and off.
The best girls are non-gdps (especially in the top clubs and expensive malls), but you may find you get more, and varied, gorgeous working girls in Rio that in most other placez
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Rio Street action
[QUOTE=ThaCTJohn]How is the street action in Brazil. How much cheaper are the street girls than the termas or help girls. I have heard you can find what we consider a ten here on the streets in RIO.[/QUOTE]
Check out my report from February...
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Florida Bar -
This is good value just now as there´s a ship in harbour and that´s what it caters to. Mostly American servicemen on shore leave, excellent atmosphere, very laid back, 70R for 30mins, good rooms and service, most girls very do-able and some beauties. Catwalk, strip etc. Bit like the Boston University area I hung out in years ago (only you can shag the girls lol).
Sorry - I wrote a long post on how to find it and how to explore and find stuff out yourself instead of being an ´end-user´. But I lost it cos I didn´t save it. So get to Praca Maua around 1am. On other days, explore the area from Maua to Uruguiana on foot by day and see how many brothels you can find. Then write a report and help others find them lol.
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[QUOTE=Christopherd]100R wiser?
I went upstairs with about 120 in my pocket... Checking my cash after I leave the casa I have 22R.... Half way through (presumably after accomplishing her mission) she quietened down and gave quite a reasonable performance.[/QUOTE]
Chris, sorry for your loss.
Out of curiosity, do you think she stole the money during the act?
BTW, I passed VM last Monday afternoon around 5 PM. Quite a few gringos there that early.
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This is a very funny story... but I don't see it continued anywhere.
[QUOTE=Maximus V]I just got back from a week in Rio and these are my observations.
To give some background, this is my 4th time to Rio over the course of 5 years and I have always had a great time on all of my trips but this one wasn’t worth the 23 hour roundtrip plane ride.
I’m not sure if it was the friends I brought down or just a couple of bad coincidences.
I traveled with 2 of my buddies this time, one who is an experienced monger and the other who was just going down for the "experience". I knew this was going to be bad Karma when the first words out of his mouth once we landed in Rio was "I changed my mind, I just can’t pay for it. " I’m thinking to myself great than what the fuck did you come for. But I held my tongue and just said cool, do what ever you feel comfortable with.
So the first place we go is Luomo. We are somewhat early we get there at 5pm, take showers and go relax at the bar. We order a couple of drinks and I notice that the girls are just talking to each other and the hottest girls are only interested in talking to this American guy who is sitting in a corner by himself. After an hour I pull over to the bar a smoking hot, tall, somewhat skinny, really cute girl and I tell her to grab her 2 friends she was talking with to talk with my buddies. So my buddy who said he will not pay for it ask his girl for a massage! What an idiot. , I just look at him and laugh! My other buddy is talking to I think the hottest girl in Luomo and decided to take her for a session. I wasn’t going to be left talking with my lame buddy at the bar so I told the sexy, skinny chick that it was time for us to do a session! It was fantastic. She was so cute. BBBJ, couple positions later and done! She was so cute I actually was UP again in about 5 minutes (this never happens) so we tried again, she was trying really hard to get me to go again but I couldn’t so we stopped and just cuddled. Great girl and excellent experience. A bit on the expensive side, I’m not sure what it cost in Reals but my credit card was charged $135US for a 40 minute session and 3 beers.
Oh, my buddy that decided to do a massage session with his girl found out the hard way that you don’t go to Rio to get a massage! His dream girl brought him into the massage room across from the Buffet table and then a professional masseuse came in to do the job. He said she was old and unattractive. I may have seemed sympathetic to his situation but I was really laughing inside.
We then went to Lapa and had a really good time at some of the bars there! Really fun everyone in the streets having a good time. About a 20 minute cab ride from Copa.
Ok, next day we go to 4x4, this has always been my favorite place. Well this time around would be different. Now my other friend who is an experienced monger starts to get a conscious saying "this is bad all of these guys with wives at home" I’m like dude are you kiddin me right now you are in a room with 75 of the hottest girls you’ve ever seen and all you can think about are dudes? ! What is this world coming too. ?
Now here is the crazy part. After scoping out the place for 30-40 minutes I finally found "the one" she has long straight blond hair, ass to die for and nice tits. I gently grab her waist and say "Hi, please come here, lets have a chat" she ignores me. I’m thinking huh, maybe she didn’t hear me. So I say it again and she ignores me. My buddy is like are you getting rejected by a GDP? I said well, I didn’t think that was possible. Never happened before. So I try one more time and then she turns around looks me dead in the eye and said "what do you want? I don’t speak English! " then she walks off. I couldn’t believe this kind of attitude in what is suppose to be the happiest place! Needless to say this got me pissed off. Has anyone ever experienced this before with a Terma girl? I’m in excellent shape by most standards and considered good looking. I just couldn’t understand this attitude for no reason! Since my spirits were low, I mean getting rejected by a hooker is about as low as it can get. I took the next hottie walking by without any screening (biggest mistake)! We make it upstairs, I actually got a shower in my 40 minute room which was a bonus. She hands me a towel and asked me if I was going to shower.
To be Cont.
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Ba 85, centro, ferry ride.
got there about 2pm today, a little earlier as fridays are really packed. actually, i left ba 85 around 7pm and it was not as crowded as normally. i have been in there on some fridays where the stairs are packed with a slow moving line constantly (i know you think i am exaggerating but wait and see). my guess is that many guys blew their money during carnaval.
i seesioned with little chris on the 3rd floor. nice bbbj and doggie style for r15. i missed my chance to screw the blonde bartender again, perhaps that one time was it.
there was an american in there with a redshirt and jeans on. the shirt had "racing team" on it. if that was you pm because we can meet up sometime and go together.
i know you were not brazilian because you were watching everything, meaning the girls, of course, but also you were making sure of your surroundings by keeping an eye on the dudes. i do that to and have been told it is a dead giveaway!
on saturdays only the 2nd floor is open. the girls are usually lazily sitting about. ask for renata (hey-nata, for the porto-challenged). i am not sure when they close on saturdays but most of the girls leave around 4pm, i remember. i think they were closing as well.
the 2nd floor is the most ghetto of all the floors, but can be real fun.
ba 85 is probably a good starter place for the gringo interested in low budget thermas. ba 113, for example, is less sophisticated and the girls run up to you when you walk in. for me, i have to think before i speak porto and this is a dead give way. so avoid this place until you get up to speed. also rua da carioca 59 (or is it 49), can be a little scary too. but in ba 85 you can sit down and chill.
today, i also took the ferry from centro to niterio. it is short walk from ba 85 to the ferry landing and costs r5 roundtrip. there are much expensive bay tours that provide basically the same service for much more. this ride is really nice as they have upgraded the boats. the irony is that the older boats a few years ago actually provided more outside standing space where you can feel the cool breeze on your face. but then again the boats back then were dirtier.
i got back from niteroi around 7pm. it was getting dark, but there were still lots of people out in centro. i guess people sit around and unwind after a days work (i would call it a hard days work, but these are cariocas!). on previous trips i have sat at a shop and drank a few beers. the beers are cheaper than in copa as well as the food. a quick meal can be had for r3( less than us $1.5)
after i got back to copacabana i ate at the copa grill again. there were 3 americans in the copa grill, perhaps my posts have ruined the place. damn! there goes the neighborhood.
tj
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[QUOTE=Sperto]Chris, sorry for your loss.
Out of curiosity, do you think she stole the money during the act?
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Thank you for the sentiments Sperto. On balance yes, but it would be hard to prove of course. I had my guard down as I said. In the room we went into porno mode just undressing each other. We went down on each other among other things but of course while I was down on her I couldn´t see what she may have been doing with any clothes strewn about. Her exaggeratd moans and writhings would have covered any non-sexual movement if she was slick about it.
I haven´t seen her before or since. I´ve a feeling she might not be too welcome in that casa in the future at least.
Looked in on Mosaico on the way out of VM tonight but very unimpressed (for anyone new to VM, the fairly new terma that´s opened on Hilario Ribeiro, a few yards outside of VM). Perhaps all the stunners were upstairs on the job?? OK, no real old fat uglies but I´d seen several better just working hard in VM. The catwalk looked more like a pig trough. I thought the prices were a joke - what was it - 140R for half an hour?? The girl I had just been with, one of my VM faves at the moment, was better looking than any at Mosaica and had extended the VM 20 mins to 30 plus so she could get her orgasm and a quick massage. And when I was walking another regular back to her moto-taxi and mentioned my thoughts on Mosaica, she gave me a look that said, Have you only just realised . . . duh.
Cleared up another small VM hassle tonight am pleased to say :) but have written enough for one post tonight.
Enjoy.
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Non-Robe establisments
First Rio trip planned for mid April, a few confirming questions if anyone can assist with some information.
I am not a fan of hangin’ around in a robe, tried it in Macau and wasn’t my gig. Hoping to find more of a bar scene: cheap beers, music, lot’s of mid priced & mid quality girls to choose from. For reference, in the Patpong/ T.J. / Angeles City vein. The interpretation I have from research on this thread leads me to believe that the following venues may fit our groups’ taste (basically a place with a bar and robes are not required, where you can drink beer and view the talent):
• Termas 502
• 'Don'
• Termas Âncora do Recreio
• Paris Café
• Termas Excentric in Niteroi
• Cancuns (Whiskeria)
• 4X4 (Whiskeria)
May be I am barking up the wrong tree here in assuming that Rio has venues that can be compared to anywhere else. If anyone could offer assistance in narrowing down some places or a general area out of what appears to be hundreds of possible choices to maximize the few days we will have in Rio I would greatly appreciate any input.
Really looking forward to an epic trip and I must compliment Bubba Boys work on this thread, a truly astounding, concise compilation in a very short amount of space and appears to be very relevant and useful even today despite that the list was written 2 years ago. My compliments to him and may I wish successful mongering to all!
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taxi fare not included?
I allowed a girl to spend the night in my apartment for R200 last night. SHe just left a few seconds ago. I gave her the 200R and then she wanted R20 for a taxi. I refused. The previous night I bought her an acai juice and got back R20. SHe kept telling me this morning that I had R20 and where I had put it.
Yes, I did have R20 but that is my business and my money. I paid her the R200 in 4 R50 notes. If she NEEDs taxi money so badly she can go buy her self one of those acai juices she loves so much ,when I buy them for her, and then she will get back some change for the taxi.
SHe actually left here with an attitude.
She better be glad she got the R200 because in my opinion they really only deserve R100.
I just realized that I can use this R20 to get laid in a centro therma!
TJ
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[QUOTE=Race Track]This is a very funny story... but I don't see it continued anywhere.[/QUOTE]I just got back from Rio and went to a bunch of Thermas so I have some perspective. I didnt have a girl yell at me like that but I did have a few rebuff my initial attempts.
Some days I think some girls just dont want to work. I am sure they also have some other reasons going on as well. Probably best not to try to figure it out and just find someone who you do jive with.
I was at Luomo one night and I had already been with the Egymptian looking one the other day and tried to chat her up again this night. For whatever reason she just didnt seem interested. I cant speak Portaguese and she cant speak english so it didnt help. Whatever she never seemed that friendly to anyone. So I get up and move back to the bar and then notice some old Asian guy called her over and is now chatting with her and she is all touchy feely with him. Then they eventually go back to a room.
I didnt really feel bad because it would be hard for any objective person to say this old Asian dude was in better shape or better looking than me.
I just dont think there is much logic sometimes. Better to just find a connection or one that seem happy.
I also had a similar experience at 4x4. super tiny hot girl just would not act interested so I just left her.
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a gringo in centro continued
I hit BA 85 at 2pm. The place was livelier than normal for a Saturday. Both floors 1 and 2 were open. The girls on floor 1 were actually girls from floors 3 and 4. And the cashier was the blonde, better known as my next ex-wife, from the 3rd floor. I got a little butt feel today.
I sessioned twice with black, mega butt, Bom Bom. Total was 30R. I drank lots of beer and gave the girls some of the Jack Daniels I had smuggled in. They like American whiskey I have learned. I buy small bottles of whiskey on the plane, keep the bottles, and refill them with the whiskey I buy in Duty Free before I go to centro (downtown RIO). I take one or two with me in my pockets and drink and share with the girls. I also drink beer there, so the whiskey just increases my buzz and gives the girls one, too.
My computer froze twice while I was typing longer reports, so I will add info. Later. I am going to Meia Pataca to hang out and soak in the atmosphere.
TJ
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[QUOTE=TJ Fannatic]I sessioned twice with black, mega butt, Bom Bom.[/QUOTE]
"Mega butt" is an understatement. Bom Bom's butt is HUGE!
I havn't tried her as i prefer smaller butts, but I found Bom Bom's butt very impressive.
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[QUOTE=Sperto]"Mega butt" is an understatement. Bom Bom's butt is HUGE!
I havn't tried her as i prefer smaller butts, but I found Bom Bom's butt very impressive.[/QUOTE]
How is the rest of her? Does the stomach match the butt? Pics perhaps?
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[QUOTE=Bravo]How is the rest of her? Does the stomach match the butt? Pics perhaps?[/QUOTE]
As I remember she had quite a lot of belly and haircut resembling the bearskin helmets worn by guardsmen on duty at Buckingham Palace in London.
Doable if you like giant butts, but not my cup of tea.
I didn't try her so I have no pics.
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Gigantor
[QUOTE=Sperto]"Mega butt" is an understatement. Bom Bom's butt is HUGE!
I havn't tried her as i prefer smaller butts, but I found Bom Bom's butt very impressive.[/QUOTE]
It is GIGANTIC. You are so right that butt is something else. It was so nice, I had to do it twice! This place is so much fun! And thanks to you guys who informed me about BA 85. Going to BA allows me save cash and still monger in style.
TJ
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Help Prices
[quote=spiros katas]i think that in helpee the prirces are rising. they start from 500r, i do not know i was before 10 days in rio, and i pay 350 for a girl for all night, maybe i was rookie i saw these prices. maybe when i ll come back to rio negotiate better.[/quote]
500 reals is definitely very high but you are right about help girls raising there prices. there must have been a meeting of the local 140 gdp union where they decided 200 reals was too low. it seems to me 300 reals is the norm these days. you can get girls for 200 but the top quality gdp's are definitely more then 200.
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[QUOTE=TJ Fannatic]It is GIGANTIC. You are so right that butt is something else. It was so nice, I had to do it twice! This place is so much fun! And thanks to you guys who informed me about BA 85. Going to BA allows me save cash and still monger in style.
TJ[/QUOTE]Call me high-flootin' or whatever you want to call me but by NO stretch of the imagination could you call a visit to BA85 "mongering in style"
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Ba 85
This place is sounding more and more like my kind of establishment!
Just wondering if someone with minimal portuguese can get by going in there.
Do you pay the girls the money when you've popped or is their a cashier like
other termas?
I hope Miss Bom Bom is till there in May..
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Centro A Go Go
I think I might be going straight past Help and heading northbound to Centro! FCUK paying 300R when I could be paying 60!! Thanks for the Centro guide Sperto, and to all you guys for the heads up!!
Just as a side note though, what is the best way to get to and from Centro? I mean, I've got no quams catching the train there in the afternoon, but can I just walk out of a terma at 8 or 9pm and grab a cab on the street? All this talk about Centro after dark has me a little concerned is all.
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Rio visit
Hi everyone,
I came back from Rio a couple of weeks ago. Before, I have visited Thailand and other place and was really curius about Brazil. I read here in this forum a lot and got many usefull informations, thank you very much all.
I visited Help 2 x and Monte Carlo 1. There at Monte Carlo I hooked up with a very very beatfull young lady. I took the 1 hour offer for 350 (I think).
I arrived there on a Friday at about 5pm. There was about 12-14 ladies from all races, heights, blonds, brunettes etc. She gave me a BBBW + 1 x sex. She was surley one of the most beautifull ladies I ever had sex with. The room was small and didn't have any shower and wasnt as clean as I expected. I asked if there was a bigger room, but the young lady (can't remember her name now) said, that all rooms are standard.
So this wasnt so pleasant.
But the overall service was very very good.
Help was an absolut disapointment. Lots of ugly women, many on drugs, some very very ugly and a few beatifull.
Comparing Rio with Bangkok, I would say that Rio has more atmosphere and class. But when it comes to the ladies, I would say Bangkok wins.
Not that I wouldn't travel to Rio again, no I would. But my next destination would be Bangkok.
Regards,
Vandeta09
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[QUOTE=Christopherd]Another point maybe worth considering in advance is, what are you going to do with your clothing when you take it off??
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Never use the hooks provided on the door or the wall, as they will always make it easier for someone to get to your valuables and never use your shoes or socks to hide any money, these are the first places they will look.
Place footwear in a corner furthest from the doorway, used condom basket or any open space accesible from outside the cubby hole and then roll your pants up with pocket openings facing innward, starting at the belt end. Then roll the rolled up pants with your shirt or tee shirt and place this roll on top of footwear. Briefs go on top of pile in case of need for a fast exit.
A variation of this, would be to use the roll as a pillow, which might make it slightly easier for her to get at your valuables, but this would free up your footwear for use on standing up positions.
Finaly, always have at least 2 secret stash locations on your clothing with enough cash to pay your way out of the place or to satisfy a robery, nowdays thats about 50 reais, depending on the area.
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[QUOTE=Koolkid]This place is sounding more and more like my kind of establishment!
Just wondering if someone with minimal portuguese can get by going in there.
Do you pay the girls the money when you've popped or is their a cashier like
other termas?
I hope Miss Bom Bom is till there in May..[/QUOTE]
You give the money either to the girl to give to the cashier or you just hand it to the cashier yourself. Then you go in the back with the girl.
People in spots like this only speak Portuguese. If you read our reports carefully you will know what to do so with minimal Portuguese you should be alright.
Just go in sit down and call a girl over when you are ready.
P.S. Since I have been "advertising" BA85 a bit I would like to issue a disclaimer of sorts. Please remember that centro is not Copacabana.
Though I have no problems in these small casas I did notice a Brazilian guy take off his gold chain before going upstairs. Even Brazilians are cautious. '
Also I am highly educated and know a lot about Brazilian culture, history, and politics, which, I am sure, all helps me to interact. Many people do not know I am an American until they start to speak too quickly for me to understand and then get suspicious. But by then they have accepted me as a man who is respectful.
TJ
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Buenos Aires 85
[QUOTE=Koolkid]
Just wondering if someone with minimal portuguese can get by going in there.[/QUOTE]
Nobody there speaks any English, but honestly, you don't really need to speak any Portuguese either. As soon as you see a girl you fancy, go over to her, say "Vamos", and that's it. She will take you to the cashier, you give the cashier whatever money you want to to dish out (R$1 per minute), buy some condoms if you need to, and that's that. If you need change back, just say the time you want to pay (15 minutos, 20 minutos, 30 minutos, etc.), and they will give you change right there and then. Personnally, I find that easier than going to the cabine with the girl first, giving her the money, and waiting for her to bring back the change. Occasionally, not often, but sometimes, the change mysteriously disappears :)
So you see, there's really no need to talk a whole lot in any language.
[QUOTE=Koolkid]Do you pay the girls the money when you've popped or is their a cashier like other termas?.[/QUOTE]
It's always upfront, always. Don't worry about it, it's very little money you got to lose, and honestly, I never had a dud there. If you're unsure about a girl, pay for an initial 15 minutes, and if you want more of the action, you can always extend.
EA
P.S.: I agree with TJ: while I have never had any problem in any of those places, quite to the contrary, actually, and never heard of or witnessed any trouble, it always pays off to keep a low profile. Dress down, don't flash money or jewelry, don't get too drunk, be extra-polite to everyone, including all the Brazilians who go there just for a quick look and feel because they don't even have the little money these ladies command. Relax: most of the Brazilian wanna-be mongers are very curious to see a foreigner there because, in all likelihood, they have never ever seen any there. Once they know you are cool and just one of them guys, they are cool... never had any issue with resentment there.
Last time I was there, back in 2006, every single time I went, there was this old guy hanging out on the 3rd floor. When I say old, I mean something like 80+. Every single day, he was there, fondling the girls. Just gotta love it: how many retirees in the US keep spending their days in a casino feeding their hard-earned dollars into slot machines, while in Rio... they hang out with the sluts. Priceless, just priceless.
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[QUOTE=TJ Fannatic]P.S. Since I have been "advertising" BA85 a bit I would like to issue a disclaimer of sorts. Please remember that centro is not Copacabana. Though I have no problems in these small casas I did notice a Brazilian guy take off his gold chain before going upstairs. Even Brazilians are cautious. '
TJ[/QUOTE]
I would say all this is true about all the out of the way places, VM included. You do see guys entering from time to time with backpacks, and I'm sure they don't have the same supplies that I carry with me. I have at times been coming from school, or from some more respectable venue, and have actually had a laptop with me. While this was never my intention, sometimes the mood just hits me.
I do agree, you need minimal portuguese, unless you're looking to take one of these girls after their shift. Drinking, 3 beers for R$10 is great, but in between sharing with the girls, and drinking myself, I tend to add a few more reais to my bank-roll.
They may look rough and tough, but these places are very low key.
ryjer
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There are a lot of other Terma's with Lindas Gatas in the BA85 area, at least about 20 other terma's that look secluded like BA85. The working girls vary depending on the day.
Like El Austriaco said most of theses places never seen a gringo, and don't speak English,but if you understand simple terms and act cool its no problem.
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Who is Bom Bom?
[QUOTE=Koolkid]thanks for your advice.[/QUOTE]Coming to brazil in mid April for 1 month. I always wanted to visit the VM. Who is bom bom?
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[QUOTE=TJ Fannatic]I allowed a girl to spend the night in my apartment for R200 last night. SHe just left a few seconds ago. I gave her the 200R and then she wanted R20 for a taxi. I refused. The previous night I bought her an acai juice and got back R20. SHe kept telling me this morning that I had R20 and where I had put it.
Yes, I did have R20 but that is my business and my money. I paid her the R200 in 4 R50 notes. If she NEEDs taxi money so badly she can go buy her self one of those acai juices she loves so much ,when I buy them for her, and then she will get back some change for the taxi.
SHe actually left here with an attitude.
She better be glad she got the R200 because in my opinion they really only deserve R100.
I just realized that I can use this R20 to get laid in a centro therma!
TJ[/QUOTE]""I just realized that I can use this R20 to get laid in a centro therma!""
TJ where s this place and what is the name?
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Boy Scout
[QUOTE=Pelicano]Never use the hooks provided on the door or the wall, as they will always make it easier for someone to get to your valuables and never use your shoes or socks to hide any money, these are the first places they will look.
Place footwear in a corner furthest from the doorway, used condom basket or any open space accesible from outside the cubby hole and then roll your pants up with pocket openings facing innward, starting at the belt end. Then roll the rolled up pants with your shirt or tee shirt and place this roll on top of footwear. Briefs go on top of pile in case of need for a fast exit.
A variation of this, would be to use the roll as a pillow, which might make it slightly easier for her to get at your valuables, but this would free up your footwear for use on standing up positions.
Finaly, always have at least 2 secret stash locations on your clothing with enough cash to pay your way out of the place or to satisfy a robery, nowdays thats about 50 reais, depending on the area.[/QUOTE]
All this while thinking with the small head, you are having a laugh!
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[QUOTE=Koolkid]This place is sounding more and more like my kind of establishment!
Just wondering if someone with minimal portuguese can get by going in there.
Do you pay the girls the money when you've popped or is their a cashier like
other termas?
I hope Miss Bom Bom is till there in May..[/QUOTE]Hi Koolkid,
I was in Rio about 3 weeks ago for the first time in my life. I can say: Yes it is better to know some portoguese when you visit Rio. But it is ok if you don't.
I got along pretty well all the time. But there where some funny moments too.
And by the way, I didn't find Rio so dangereous as some said here. OK, if you are coming from some Fininsh little village from the north, you may feel so, but all in all with comon sense, not exposing myself as a tourist to much etc I felt pretty safe during my 3 week stay in Brazil. And I don't speak a word of Spanish.
Regards
Vandeta09
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A "small" question?
Hello All,
I have traveled to Rio many times in the past couple of years, but always on the company expense route. I didn't have to worry about hotels, transport from ariport, etc. Well, since I am not working for that company any longer and I miss those "bonita bundas", I am coming for a couple of days on my own. I think I am going to stay at the Atlantico Copacabana, since it seems to be in a good spot and has good reviews. (if I can get a room) I am still looking for advice on the best way to get from the airport to the hotel. Something less expensive than a cab, but faster/easier than a public transit bus. Trying to do that with luggage, and the time involved isn't cost effective.
Reading the board seems to have mixed reports about Help, I have had good success there in the past, but it has been a year and I know things change. It appears the crisis, hasn't affected the GDP's desire(or ability) to extract more reals from "us", or are they trying to make up for the stronger dollar....lol
Thank you in advance for the info and any other "pearls" you might want to pass along!
Regards,
Sky
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centro casa question
[QUOTE=Shoesky]""I just realized that I can use this R20 to get laid in a centro therma!""
TJ where s this place and what is the name?[/QUOTE]
Look at Bubba's Guide to Rio" a thread on this forum. Go to the "last page" and find the post where he lists thermas.
He has a list of most of the centro casas. You should also try to search for Sperto's guide. Sperto has EVERY last one of the centro casas listed with ratings.
TJ
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[QUOTE=Pelicano]Never use the hooks provided on the door or the wall, as they will always make it easier for someone to get to your valuables and never use your shoes or socks to hide any money, these are the first places they will look.
Place footwear in a corner furthest from the doorway, used condom basket or any open space accesible from outside the cubby hole and then roll your pants up with pocket openings facing innward, starting at the belt end. Then roll the rolled up pants with your shirt or tee shirt and place this roll on top of footwear. Briefs go on top of pile in case of need for a fast exit.
A variation of this, would be to use the roll as a pillow, which might make it slightly easier for her to get at your valuables, but this would free up your footwear for use on standing up positions.
Finaly, always have at least 2 secret stash locations on your clothing with enough cash to pay your way out of the place or to satisfy a robery, nowdays thats about 50 reais, depending on the area.[/QUOTE]
I agree with all of this except that in some - I´m thinking of two casas in particular - there are hooks where I can keep an eye on stuff continuously. Some places, not just VM, just provide them for hanging clothes on.
As for stash areas, have several so that the first stash they find is enough but not too much.
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two other porno cinemas beside Iris
One is the Orly in Rua Alcindo Guanabara. No strip, but better quality screen and lens to actual watch the stuff. Better lighting than Iris. Unisex loos. No pressure. Only two women (you can see they are women) on when I looked in were rather old and not too pretty. Didn´t check the BJ price.
Around the corner is the Rex in Rua Alvaro Alvim. Bigger place, similar to Iris, crap lighting so couldn´t tell if women on duty were trannies but think they were. Charged 9R entrance (Iris and Orly are 8R).
Both are in Cinelandia, just off Praca Floriano. Only looked in each for a couple of minutes. There are apartment sex workers in the immediate area or of course Carioca is only 2 mins walk.
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[QUOTE=Lancer520]500 Reals is definitely very high but you are right about Help girls raising there prices. There must have been a meeting of the Local 140 GDP Union where they decided 200 Reals was too low. It seems to me 300 Reals is the norm these days. You can get girls for 200 but the top quality GDP's are definitely more then 200.[/QUOTE]
I was in Rio last month right before Carnaval, high season. I went to Help everynight, pulled some nice girls out of there, never paid more than 250 TLN. They pretty much told me that they would like the entrance fee of 38 reais and 200 for their pocket, so I gave them 250.
Very few refused it, some told me to come back later because they would like to score something bigger but if they didn't they would take it. Stand your ground at 250, they will go for it.
I just said this is what I pay, that's it.
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[QUOTE=Sky Ryder] I am still looking for advice on the best way to get from the airport to the hotel. Something less expensive than a cab, but faster/easier than a public transit bus. Trying to do that with luggage, and the time involved isn't cost effective.[/QUOTE]
Try Shuttle Rio: [url]http://www.shuttlerio.com.br/en/[/url]. R12 each way. I took it last time I was in Rio, and they provide excellent service.
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[QUOTE=Sangue Bon] Stand your ground at 250, they will go for it.
I just said this is what I pay, that's it.[/QUOTE]Fuck that. Stand your ground at 200R. I usually start at 150 and pay no more that 200R. Stop the inflation people!
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Few hours to spare at the International Airport
Hi gentlemen,
My and a few friends have maybe 3. 4 hours to spare from around 3pm on Thursday waiting at the airport for our flight. Other than getting a room at a hotel near the airport and phoning in some company, what are the other best options at that time of day? Is it worth cabbing it to 4 x 4? Are there any good bars near to the airport with GDP's? I know I should have RTFF, but I aint got a lot of time.
Sorry!
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[QUOTE=Lorenzo]Try Shuttle Rio: [url]http://www.shuttlerio.com.br/en/[/url]. R12 each way. I took it last time I was in Rio, and they provide excellent service.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for that link Lorenzo. I would love to check out that service. The only drawback to me is that the last car leaves Copa at 7pm and my flight doesn't leaves after 10. I don't like being too early. I usually take the 7:40 (8:20 at the latest) Real bus.
Update: Since it was raining and I know how the traffic backs up, I did end up walking to the Othon Palace to try to get the last van. I arrived at 6:55pm but it had already left. The bellhop said that reservations should be made 1 day in advance. So then I went outside to cross the street to catch the Real bus but taxi drivers outside of the hotel were soliciting me to go to the airport. They offered rides for R$50. I was like dude I'm going to get on this bus for R$7. Just then I saw the bus passing by. I ended up walking back to NS getting a taxi to try to catch the bus at Rio Sul. But fuck it. I hate fooling around trying to go to the airport in the rain so I told him to just continue on to Galeao. We ran into traffic getting on the expressway downtown so he diverted to some side streets. The total travel time ended up being 50 minutes and was R$42.90 on the meter. I will definitely try the van next time from the airport to Copa.
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T A
I was dead tired last night but decided to go stand out in front of TA about 11:30. I didn't really plan on bringing anything back because my gf was going to arrive at 8am. While I was standing in front of Help a rat came up talking to me. I was being friendly but at the same time giving her the cold shoulder. She was from Brasilia and said she had been staying on Prado Junior for about 3 months.
Out of the blue she asked if she could tell me her price. I said sure go ahead. She said she usually asks 200 but would do me for 150. I was thinking that someone would have to be out of their mind to give her 200, 150, or even 100 for that matter. She said that she would do all three holes plus a massage. She finally went down to 100 and asked if we could go to my apartment. I told her that we could go to her apartment. She said that she only rented a space to sleep in so it would be best to go to a hotel and pay R$30. I told her that I only had R$100 so I could not do it. The she said that she would take 70 and I could give the other 30 to the hotel. That is when I told her to meet me at my apartment in 10 minutes.
When I arrived at the apartment I told the doorman that she would be coming and to just let her up. I secured all of my things in my suitcase and put the R$70 under the alarm clock. When she arrived we took showers. I was careful to get out first so I could use the one towel first. I wouldn't dare have two used towels on the scene when my gf showed up. (BTW this morning she did question why I was getting myself a fresh towel when there was already one on the rack.)
She had a pretty good BBBJ but it wasn't constant. She would stop every 10 seconds. She says that she doesn't like to suck much. I told her that it was her gift and she needed to practice with it. She finally convinced me to get the condom so I could fuck her. She came about 3 times then I decided it was time to hit the brown eye. We must have done anal from every position. She rode really hard in reverse cowgirl. After it was all over I asked for the massage. She said I was supposed to do that before not after, but gave a 5 minute half ass massage anyway. When she came back from the second shower I told her that her money was under the clock. She got dressed and left. I did a damage control sweep then went to sleep.
P.S. I always chuckle inside when I see Copa gdps out running errands in the daytime. It's like you would never know they were hookers (but I guess that goes for any hooker.)
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Out of Place
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]
P.S. I always chuckle inside when I see Copa gdps out running errands in the daytime. It's like you would never know they were hookers (but I guess that goes for any hooker.)[/QUOTE]
This seems to happen to me every trip. They usually try to avoid eye contact with me, but when they can't, they will usually speak. Once I saw a Help garota in an internet cafe. Ii was with a friend, and as soon as she saw me, she gave me the "shhhhs" sign! Too funny.
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[QUOTE=Sky Ryder]Hello All,
I have traveled to Rio many times in the past couple of years, but always on the company expense route. I didn't have to worry about hotels, transport from ariport, etc. Well, since I am not working for that company any longer and I miss those "bonita bundas", I am coming for a couple of days on my own. I think I am going to stay at the Atlantico Copacabana, since it seems to be in a good spot and has good reviews. (if I can get a room) I am still looking for advice on the best way to get from the airport to the hotel. Something less expensive than a cab, but faster/easier than a public transit bus. Trying to do that with luggage, and the time involved isn't cost effective.
Reading the board seems to have mixed reports about Help, I have had good success there in the past, but it has been a year and I know things change. It appears the crisis, hasn't affected the GDP's desire (or ability) to extract more reals from "us", or are they trying to make up for the stronger dollar. LOL.
Thank you in advance for the info and any other "pearls" you might want to pass along!
Regards,
Sky[/QUOTE]rent an apartment. Why waste times with hotels. The ones that allow garotas to stay only allow one at a time.
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[QUOTE=TJ Fannatic]Today, I also took the ferry from centro to Niterio. It is short walk from BA 85 to the ferry landing and costs R5 roundtrip. There are much expensive Bay tours that provide basically the same service for much more. This ride is really nice as they have upgraded the boats. The irony is that the older boats a few years ago actually provided more outside standing space where you can feel the cool breeze on your face. But then again the boats back then were dirtier.
I got back from Niteroi around 7pm.[/QUOTE]
Did you do anything intersting in Niteroi or just go for the boat ride?
It´s true, the newer boats are not as romantic as the old crates - I´ve got great photos with those old ones - but they get you there and back quickly and reliably. I´m not sure they give you the same as a boat tour, but there again Rio is not exactly Hong Kong. It´s a nice ride and you get a good view of Fiscal Island (the green building) - this is lit up at night and looks particularly surreal.
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Niteroi
Doesn´t seem to be much on the board about it so here goes :-
There´s three reasons I go to Niteroi -
i) to get laid
ii) shopping
iii) the Oscar Niemeyer Contemporary Art Museum
i) Getting laid.
Probably this isn´t a good enough reason unless you just want to go somewhere different. The non-gdp talent is less amenable and less pretty than it is in Centro RJ and the GDP is ok, a bit cheaper maybe, but not outstanding as far as I´ve experienced.
This afternoon I tried Excentric, which is Rua da Conceicao 132. From the boat, cross directly over and walk along Conceicao a few short blocks and it´s on the right hand side. Up a flight of stairs, past reception and there´s two bars, a whiskeria, dance space, a DVD screen playing Brasilian music or football, lockers and so on. Today they were offering 15R admission which included 2 free beers, which I should have haggled off but didn´t. Prices for the girl include the room and are 90R for 30mins, 110R for 40mins, and 140R for the hour. The cabins are clean and basic, nothing fancy. Air-con but no DVD and the bed is clean but not much bounce to the mattress. Fairly gringo-free when I´ve been. And not a bottle of Jack Daniels to be seen on either bar. Robes aren´t worn. Opening hours are Mon-Fri, 6pm to 3am. I had forgotten this last detail so was a bit early. I tried a less respectable place near the bus station (the name eludes me just now so I´ll edit or add it later) but on a wet Tuesday afternoon that hadn´t opened either (guy next door said 6pm).
The girls were mostly all reasonable looking terma-quality appearance. Performance wasn´t brilliant, but I put it down to lack of either natural aptitude or lack of appropriate acquired skill rather than lack of effort.
ii) To fill in the time I went shopping. I like shopping in Niteroi. It´s cheaper than Rio and less effort. You can do the Centro shops if the weather is ok and while away time in Plaza Shopping if it´s not. The Plaza mall is like an only slightly smaller version of Rio Sul but for the most part without Rio Sul prices. Food venues are more reminiscent of Botofogo Praia Shopping (varied, some good quality, but not flash) and there´s plenty of coffee places and a multiplex cinema.
iii) Contemporary Art Museum
This is the best reason to visit Niteroi IMO. a) cos it is an awesome, futuristic building (same guy that designed the space age monument at the end of Sambodrome. The views are breathtaking - it´s a good place from which to view Rio. But another great feature is (b) the walk back. If you take a garota she will probably be impressed. Get your photo taken with the building in the background. Getting there is easy enough, but take a taxi if you are impatient or a windy bus if you´re not. Walking, turn right off the ferry and follow the coast. It´s open Tue-Sun, 10am-6pm and with free entry on Wednesday. Stuff inside is possibly not as impressive as the building itself.
NITEROI - getting there
There´s probably about six different ways so you can experiment, but the two and half reis ferry is the easiest. On the water´s edge at Praca XV you´ll see big signs saying Niteroi. Buying a ticket and going thru the turnstile is a bit like using the Metro.
For those of you who have got to know RJ Centro a bit or used my [url=¨http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=862916&postcount=8416¨]walking tour intro[/url] or have [url=¨http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=858119&postcount=8278¨] tried using a bus[/url], the place where you get the ferry is only five mins walk from 4x4 (turn left as you come out) or just get a 455 into town.
If you only learn one bus route, learn a 455. It´s an express bus that will get you to Centro and also to VM. For Centro, get off in the underpass (Praca XV). For VM, get off at the end of the overpass later on. Easy.
The bus drops you right at the ferry departure point. Climb the steps, you´ll see the sign, get your ticket. Coming back, when you get off the ferry, remember you want the [i]far[/i] side of the underpass, as traffic drives on the right and you wanting it heading to Copa (which is a few miles to your left). So don´t go down the first set of big steps. Walk a few yards further and you´ll see steps down heading back on themselves. As you go down there´s handy signs telling you which buses are express and so on. If in doubt just get a 455.
What is Niteroi?
It´s a separate city, not part of RJ. Many of the streets have the same name and it looks similar. The story goes that once upon a time the super-rich people of Rio got fed up with the merely tacky-rich, and so built a big long bridge that was too expensive for the riff-raff to get there and pollute their hideaway. Nowadays anyone can get there. Coming back on the ferry, look at the green Fiscal Island on your right - it dates back to the end of the 19th century when posh people were exceedingly posh and held wonderful parties there. (Worth exploring too, though the guided tour drags on a bit.)
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Prado Junior GDP bars
i´ve spent several months a year for the past few years adjacent to prado junior and still don´t know it perfectly, but maybe it´s time to add a few notes on which are and are not gdp bars - for the adventurous or just those that like to get into trouble ;)
there´s four to speak of. none particularly good, but worth knowing about if you hang out anywhere nearby.
starting from the atlantica end and mabs (the 24hr grotty hooker restaurant that occasionally has a do-able worth a quickie . . . the restaurant itself isn´t 24hrs but that doesn´t stop girls sitting there - but i digress).
the first bar is bar alexandra. it is almost too posh to be in such a trashy district. it is clean and has a nice sound system. it doesn´t even sell bigger bottles of beer. i rarely drink there as i find it unappealing from the outside, but others have reported good experiences.
crossing over ns copa, still on the right hand side, you get to bar estacao dos docas. this is the first of two adjacent dives between ns copa and min.viv.d.castro. a [i]large[/i] bottle of skol costs 3.5 reis and is good for sharing. regulars who prefer not to spend to much know this and will share theirs when it´s nearly finished and yours is full. est.d.docas consists of a single narrow passage, dimly illuminated. the darkness prevents discrimination against the roaches nibbling your ankles. or the creatures that were once human females. there but for fortune you might sitting there, drug-ravages, eyes sunk several inches within your skull and so on.
the only reason for mentioning docas is that you might meet people there you have already seen somewhere else. these are the people you can safely talk to. if they are drinking in docas they have got a cheek asking upmarket prices.
many girls late at night do the ´gringo triangle´. starting at balcony, you see them wander off and reappear later on. they go to docas and back. the beer is cheap, they can gossip, and it beats standing around looking like a loser. there are exceptions. girls that started at help and have a ´reputation´to protect. slightly older girls whose reputation is more important than their looks. but the ones that can get away with it will.
while balcony is theoretically open late, docas really is. ordinary people going about their business in the morning hide their feelings of disgust as they wander past the beer-stained grubbies still drinking in docas when the shops have started opening. it´s still going even after nog has closed. the more respectable of the druggies on the car bonnets that can walk in a straight line might soften up for a drink in here. but there´s also local, more normal people. the atmosphere is always lively. and there´s always someone to take advantage of the unwary.
bar hta da prado. this is right next door and slightly bigger. if you buy a drink in one you maybe finish it in the other. bar prado also expands by taking up most of the pavement. respectable people (like the nicely-dressed rip-off girls from barbarellas, who, like most boite girls, knock off at about 4am) will cross the street to avoid it.
to give you an idea. one day i am talking to a seemingly very well-sorted gentleman. we arrange a sex party with two willing girls there, one of whom is hot. the four of us get in his expensive car. the two girls start arguing about who will do it with who first (with the intensity that carioca garotas bring to the tiniest dispute). the nice guy (i forget his name) is driving. or would be. the part of his consciousness used for this task seems to have been temporarily misplaced. the clutch is a considerable challenge. we accelerate around the block. the car accelerates forward in jolts. not synchronised to us or our stomachs. the girls manage to continue arguing unfazed. a few moments later we arrive back at bar prado. the driver gets out, obviously deeply puzzled by the incident. i wait for the girls to calm down and go across the road with the hot one to her flat. she snorts a line and offers me some but it´s finished. amazingly, she manages to remove all her clothes unaided. a fleeting smile then she is out for the count. i know there is a pulse somewhere but it doesn´t seem quite right. i go back to prado and tell her sister she´s konked out. sister wants all the details in triplicate. half an hour later, details still being cross-examined on the pavement, hot girl reappears and wants to know why i haven´t f*cked her. i say something to the effect of a mumble . . .
the next block has no gdp bars. i have seen gdps literally chased away. but there are exceptions. there are gdps who hold respectable positions in the local community - dancing in boites (where your id is largely hidden), waiting in restaurants, supplying coke to more discriminating clientelle and so on. if they sleep with someone they ask for some money on principle but don´t consider themselves gdps and don´t act like it. on the beach one day with such a girl she explained how she was trying to help a ´puta friend´ (queue expression of disgust) get a proper job. such charity and kindness is nice. ;) so bottom line, you can´t chat to them like they were gdps in such places - they would go a bit mental if you showed them up like that.
the last block is from barata ribeiro to felipe de oliveira. on the far corner is bar slat. next to ´diplomata hotel´. you will rarely get a gringo there so no-one thinks it´s a typo. bar slat is a place to go if the proprietors of bars prado & docas want to go to sleep. it´s open early rather than late. the food looks like it has been there as early as the week before but i´ve never come to any harm eating there. but bar slat is one of the strangest mixes. gdps, single guys, respectable couples and even families with their children. all co-exist in a tiny space without anybody pretending to be anything they aren´t. the gdps in bar slat (unless they arrived from an abovementioned bar) make bars prado and docas look exclusive. beer-stained and [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord109][CodeWord109][/url] stained, they are the next form of life up from the homeless families living on the nearby square. occasionally there will be one that has rolled down the hill from the nearby favela.
bar slat is end of the line.
the attraction is the absence of the loud gringo culture that sometimes afflicts balcony such as described [url=¨http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=848391&postcount=8070¨]here[/url]. not that balcony is always like that, but it´s still a meat market. such characters, loudly defended by some on this board, could learn from their more refined countrymen in places like bar florida. the other attraction is the challenge. can you handle prado junior?
for me, it´s just less walk. prado has everything - 24hr supermarkets, chemists and wh*res. the best fresh fish, freshly roasted chicken to take back to your apto, a barbers, tacky boites, dry cleaners and laundrettes, bike rentals, good cafes, sucos bars, one of the top restaurants, one of the better travel agents i´ve found.
but sometimes i yearn for somewhere a little different . . .
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Bar Florida update
I went back to Bar Florida on a wet weekday and it was more or less as I expected. The amiable American servicemen were away. There were only about 8 girls there. The one I did was fairly boring (should maybe have repeated with the nicer one I had at the weekend). She wasted more than five minutes powdering her f*nny (like they don´t have time to do this when propping up the bar??) Then the mama who looks after the cabins interrupted to ask if we wanted a new remote control for the DVD. Mood gone. (And she had the cheek to ask for a tip as I left).
As I think I said, when it´s good, it´s very very good. When it´s not it´s cr*p.
On the other hand, when it [i]is[/i] raining it maybe beats trolling bars in Copa. There´s not the mud and leaky roofs of VM. And not the high prices of other termas that are open in the evening. Cheap at the price, even if you pay for a taxi (for the bus-minded, get a bus marked Praca Maua or a 123 or a 177 or any of a great number of other buses - saves you 40R).
Something else I liked about it on a good night is that the atmosphere is good enough to hang around in and maybe take another girl later on. Didn´t detect any jealousies on either visit.
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[quote=christopherd]i´ve spent several months a year for the past few years adjacent to prado junior and still don´t know it perfectly, but maybe it´s time to add a few notes on which are and are not gdp bars - for the adventurous or just those that like to get into trouble ;)
there´s four to speak of. none particularly good, but worth knowing about if you hang out anywhere nearby.
starting from the atlantica end and mabs (the 24hr grotty hooker restaurant that occasionally has a do-able worth a quickie . . . the restaurant itself isn´t 24hrs but that doesn´t stop girls sitting there - but i digress).
the first bar is bar alexandra. it is almost too posh to be in such a trashy district. it is clean and has a nice sound system. it doesn´t even sell bigger bottles of beer. i rarely drink there as i find it unappealing from the outside, but others have reported good experiences.
crossing over ns copa, still on the right hand side, you get to bar estacao dos docas. this is the first of two adjacent dives between ns copa and min.viv.d.castro. a [i]large[/i] bottle of skol costs 3.5 reis and is good for sharing. regulars who prefer not to spend to much know this and will share theirs when it´s nearly finished and yours is full. est.d.docas consists of a single narrow passage, dimly illuminated. the darkness prevents discrimination against the roaches nibbling your ankles. or the creatures that were once human females. there but for fortune you might sitting there, drug-ravages, eyes sunk several inches within your skull and so on.
the only reason for mentioning docas is that you might meet people there you have already seen somewhere else. these are the people you can safely talk to. if they are drinking in docas they have got a cheek asking upmarket prices.
many girls late at night do the ´gringo triangle´. starting at balcony, you see them wander off and reappear later on. they go to docas and back. the beer is cheap, they can gossip, and it beats standing around looking like a loser. there are exceptions. girls that started at help and have a ´reputation´to protect. slightly older girls whose reputation is more important than their looks. but the ones that can get away with it will.
while balcony is theoretically open late, docas really is. ordinary people going about their business in the morning hide their feelings of disgust as they wander past the beer-stained grubbies still drinking in docas when the shops have started opening. it´s still going even after nog has closed. the more respectable of the druggies on the car bonnets that can walk in a straight line might soften up for a drink in here. but there´s also local, more normal people. the atmosphere is always lively. and there´s always someone to take advantage of the unwary.
bar hta da prado. this is right next door and slightly bigger. if you buy a drink in one you maybe finish it in the other. bar prado also expands by taking up most of the pavement. respectable people (like the nicely-dressed rip-off girls from barbarellas, who, like most boite girls, knock off at about 4am) will cross the street to avoid it.
to give you an idea. one day i am talking to a seemingly very well-sorted gentleman. we arrange a sex party with two willing girls there, one of whom is hot. the four of us get in his expensive car. the two girls start arguing about who will do it with who first (with the intensity that carioca garotas bring to the tiniest dispute). the nice guy (i forget his name) is driving. or would be. the part of his consciousness used for this task seems to have been temporarily misplaced. the clutch is a considerable challenge. we accelerate around the block. the car accelerates forward in jolts. not synchronised to us or our stomachs. the girls manage to continue arguing unfazed. a few moments later we arrive back at bar prado. the driver gets out, obviously deeply puzzled by the incident. i wait for the girls to calm down and go across the road with the hot one to her flat. she snorts a line and offers me some but it´s finished. amazingly, she manages to remove all her clothes unaided. a fleeting smile then she is out for the count. i know there is a pulse somewhere but it doesn´t seem quite right. i go back to prado and tell her sister she´s konked out. sister wants all the details in triplicate. half an hour later, details still being cross-examined on the pavement, hot girl reappears and wants to know why i haven´t f*cked her. i say something to the effect of a mumble . . .
the next block has no gdp bars. i have seen gdps literally chased away. but there are exceptions. there are gdps who hold respectable positions in the local community - dancing in boites (where your id is largely hidden), waiting in restaurants, supplying coke to more discriminating clientelle and so on. if they sleep with someone they ask for some money on principle but don´t consider themselves gdps and don´t act like it. on the beach one day with such a girl she explained how she was trying to help a ´puta friend´ (queue expression of disgust) get a proper job. such charity and kindness is nice. ;) so bottom line, you can´t chat to them like they were gdps in such places - they would go a bit mental if you showed them up like that.
the last block is from barata ribeiro to felipe de oliveira. on the far corner is bar slat. next to ´diplomata hotel´. you will rarely get a gringo there so no-one thinks it´s a typo. bar slat is a place to go if the proprietors of bars prado & docas want to go to sleep. it´s open early rather than late. the food looks like it has been there as early as the week before but i´ve never come to any harm eating there. but bar slat is one of the strangest mixes. gdps, single guys, respectable couples and even families with their children. all co-exist in a tiny space without anybody pretending to be anything they aren´t. the gdps in bar slat (unless they arrived from an abovementioned bar) make bars prado and docas look exclusive. beer-stained and [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord109][CodeWord109][/url] stained, they are the next form of life up from the homeless families living on the nearby square. occasionally there will be one that has rolled down the hill from the nearby favela.
bar slat is end of the line.
the attraction is the absence of the loud gringo culture that sometimes afflicts balcony such as described [post=848391here[/post]. not that balcony is always like that, but it´s still a meat market. such characters, loudly defended by some on this board, could learn from their more refined countrymen in places like bar florida. the other attraction is the challenge. can you handle prado junior?
for me, it´s just less walk. prado has everything - 24hr supermarkets, chemists and wh*res. the best fresh fish, freshly roasted chicken to take back to your apto, a barbers, tacky boites, dry cleaners and laundrettes, bike rentals, good cafes, sucos bars, one of the top restaurants, one of the better travel agents i´ve found.
but sometimes i yearn for somewhere a little different . . .[/quote]from 5 till 8 or 9 you will see alot off gdp's go to alexandra bar, on there way to balconey. a few too help. nice inside, plays ok chilled out music. different kettle of women from around help though. had a few ok nights there though.
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Nothing To Do With Brazil....
So this has absolutely nothing to do with Brazil, but since it's the first p4p I've done since I got back to the states I just had to get this out of my system. Tonight I banged a Craigslist girl on my way home from NYC at 5 in the am. When I was done we got to talking and she went over to a piece of paper and started scribbling numbers. I peaked over her shoulder and asked her if that was her income for the day and she told me it was. At 5:30 in the am she had racked in $2200 for the day. Being that she was hot and 18, I'm not that surprised but that number to me was mind boggling. She told me her best day in the biz was $3400 and she's only been doing it for 6 months. When I was leaving, there was already a guy waiting in the parking lot and another guy that called and wanted a Greek session before work. Let me be the first to say that I'm in the wrong line of work. I mean really. $2500 cash, tax free. can you imagine if the Brazilian GDP's knew what they were missing. They'd be building rafts and sailing to the US for work. LOL
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Rafts
[QUOTE=Lancer520]So this has absolutely nothing to do with Brazil, but since it's the first p4p I've done since I got back to the states I just had to get this out of my system. Tonight I banged a Craigslist girl on my way home from NYC at 5 in the am. When I was done we got to talking and she went over to a piece of paper and started scribbling numbers. I peaked over her shoulder and asked her if that was her income for the day and she told me it was. At 5:30 in the am she had racked in $2200 for the day. Being that she was hot and 18, I'm not that surprised but that number to me was mind boggling. She told me her best day in the biz was $3400 and she's only been doing it for 6 months. When I was leaving, there was already a guy waiting in the parking lot and another guy that called and wanted a Greek session before work. Let me be the first to say that I'm in the wrong line of work. I mean really. $2500 cash, tax free. can you imagine if the Brazilian GDP's knew what they were missing. They'd be building rafts and sailing to the US for work. LOL[/QUOTE]
They do build rafts but from another kind of wood. They start out by getting an American boyfriend. Then they get either a fiancé visa or get married. Then they disappear. Well, not really, you can find them working as escorts in cities around the US. One girl, who tried to rope me in, is now working legally in Nevada. This and that some guys bring Brazilians to the US to work for them as prostitutes is the reason that it is sometimes difficult for a single Brazilian woman to get a tourist visa.
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[QUOTE=Lancer520] I mean really. $2500 cash, tax free. can you imagine if the Brazilian GDP's knew what they were missing. They'd be building rafts and sailing to the US for work. LOL[/QUOTE]
Look at the Craigs list for Northern NJ, this includes the Newark area, plenty of Brazilian bucetta for sale there.
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Help
Guys,
A couple of weeks ago the Help is closing talk started up once again. Now I have been reading the forum for a while and I have seen that talk before but usually someone finds out it is not true. I have not seen anything posted lately on the issue. (I might have missed it). But could someone who is in Country let me know if it is true and if so, does anyone know when it will close.
Thanks in Advance
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[QUOTE=Iluvthatwoman]Guys,
A couple of weeks ago the Help is closing talk started up once again. Now I have been reading the forum for a while and I have seen that talk before but usually someone finds out it is not true. I have not seen anything posted lately on the issue. (I might have missed it). But could someone who is in Country let me know if it is true and if so, does anyone know when it will close.
Thanks in Advance[/QUOTE]
Strong rumours this time , O globo reports the building has been expropriated and that it will close May 1 , on the other hand the prefeitura is broke and doesn't have the money to expropriate the building AND the business , I believe there are 3 years left on the lease and the owners just did a major interior renovation.
No new news but people certainly talking.
Whether the closing is advised or logical is immaterial in Rio ,
I'd put thebetting at 2 to 1 that it stays open.
My best guess is they will expropriate the bldg and close it when the lease is up in 2012.
This is Rio anything is possible
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[QUOTE=Apocalpso]Strong rumours this time, O globo reports the building has been expropriated and that it will close May 1, on the other hand the prefeitura is broke and doesn't have the money to expropriate the building AND the business, I believe there are 3 years left on the lease and the owners just did a major interior renovation.
No new news but people certainly talking.
Whether the closing is advised or logical is immaterial in Rio, I'd put thebetting at 2 to 1 that it stays open.
My best guess is they will expropriate the bldg and close it when the lease is up in 2012.
This is Rio anything is possible[/QUOTE]Thanks, but on what premise is the prefeitura atbrokeat?
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Apartment Help
I am only going to be in Rio for a few days. I have three questions:
1) Has anyone ever used Rio Apartments and are they reputable?
2) Has anyone ever stayed in this apartment and what are your thoughts?
[url]http://www.rioapartments.com/penthouse-barra-da-tijuca/FrameSet.htm[/url]
3) Has anyone ever stayed at RIO OTHON PALACE and are they girl friendly?
Any help is appreciated.
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[QUOTE=Beach Star]Thanks, but on what premise is the prefeitura atbrokeat?[/QUOTE]I'm at the moment in Rio and when I talk to some locals people at my office and also a "working girl" that i know, they both say its some kind of process. The goverment dosnt see Help as an normal disco and therefore want to close it. And i guess they have a point its not a normal disco ;) But why close the place it collect the people at one place instead of spreed it.
But i have not see any official about it. It still going strong.
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Advice!
[QUOTE=JuiceGuy]I am only going to be in Rio for a few days. I have three questions:
1) Has anyone ever used Rio Apartments and are they reputable?
2) Has anyone ever stayed in this apartment and what are your thoughts?
[url]http://www.rioapartments.com/penthouse-barra-da-tijuca/FrameSet.htm[/url]
3) Has anyone ever stayed at RIO OTHON PALACE and are they girl friendly?
Any help is appreciated.[/QUOTE]To answer your question no I have not stayed there but it looks very nice and places that give you pictures on the website are usually pretty reliable!
My advice is that this place is probably a little too much for mongering! I myself love to splurge on my apartment but have learned my lesson with my last 3 visits to Rio! Renting a pimped out place like this usually causes higher prices from the garotas and they come in with a different mentality; right off the bat they see $$$$$$$. So 1 of a few scenarios will occur; 1) you will always get a higher sucker price, 2) If you negotiated a decent price once you get back to your place her mood and mentality will completely change causing poor performance or re-nig on the deal. 3)You will have a drama filled garota who will not leave you alone your entire trip and will want you to invest all your time and money in her cuz she knows you got the $$$$ (this is the worst in my opinion; they can cause you plenty of headaches).
My advice keep it a little more low key (trust me) save yourself some money with a nice low key place and you will have more money to spend on activities and less drama!
I would only go with a place like this if a handfull of my boys were going to stay there as well then that's a different story!
Ciao,.
Musze
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Rio Othon Hotel
Rio Othon is not girl friendly, in fact they have two goons watching the elevators most of the time, great views and location, but a shitty hotel for the money. Rio Roiss next door is a little seedy but same great location!
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[QUOTE=Sangue Bon]Look at the Craigs list for Northern NJ, this includes the Newark area, plenty of Brazilian bucetta for sale there.[/QUOTE]
I second that. $150-$200 for an hour.
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Juice Guy
[QUOTE=JuiceGuy]I am only going to be in Rio for a few days. I have three questions:
1) Has anyone ever used Rio Apartments and are they reputable?
2) Has anyone ever stayed in this apartment and what are your thoughts?
[url]http://www.rioapartments.com/penthouse-barra-da-tijuca/FrameSet.htm[/url]
3) Has anyone ever stayed at RIO OTHON PALACE and are they girl friendly?
Any help is appreciated.[/QUOTE]1-I have used rioapartments.com & they were very helpful & easy to deal with
2-The apt. looks beautiful but if your coming to Rio mostly for mongering you sure don't wanna stay in Barra Tijuca, that's a long way from the mongering action
3-The Rio Othon is very girl unfriendly-no chance of sneaking one up the elevator
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[QUOTE=JuiceGuy]I am only going to be in Rio for a few days. I have three questions:
1) Has anyone ever used Rio Apartments and are they reputable?
2) Has anyone ever stayed in this apartment and what are your thoughts?
[url]http://www.rioapartments.com/penthouse-barra-da-tijuca/FrameSet.htm[/url]
3) Has anyone ever stayed at RIO OTHON PALACE and are they girl friendly?
Any help is appreciated.[/QUOTE]
They are reputable and generally go out of their way to make sure your stay is good. Didn't like the security deposit aspect, which is like $200US on top of the rental, but of course you get it back the day you leave.
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[QUOTE=Apocalpso]Strong rumours this time , O globo reports the building has been expropriated and that it will close May 1 , on the other hand the prefeitura is broke and doesn't have the money to expropriate the building AND the business,..[/QUOTE]It's not the City Government, (Prefeitura,) doing this, but the State Government of Rio de Janeiro. The money has been allocated, per Oglobo reports.
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How to Get a Girl Inside the Rio Othon Palace
I was at the R.O.P. during Carnaval. As soon as I got inside my room, I asked the staff that helped me with my luggage about the girl policy of the hotel. He said that you if you bring a girl after 11pm, then would need to have the girl register at reception and you would have to pay a fee of $R100 for the girl whether she stays for 1 minute or the night. Now, during the day, if you bring a girl to your room, just walk straight inside the elevators, make sure the girl is dressed like a normal girl and not like a GDP and if anyone asks you anything, just say you're going to the Bar or to the swimming pool on the top floor of the hotel. Then, from there, just go to your room.
He did emphasize that a great deal of whether you will succeed in bringing a girl to your room is the way she is dressed. Only if she is dressed and looks like a normal girl, can you pull this off. This came straight from one of the staff at the R.O.P. Again, speaking portuguese helps tremendously in here.
All in all, yes the R.O.P is not very girl friendly, however, with a little tact, balls and with the right girl and some portuguese and add to that the brasilian jeitinho, it can be done.
Other than that, the hotel is very conveniently located, awesome views and great service.
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I was at Help yesterday. Was many people but I found the level of pretty girls very low. So I spoke a lot here about the closing and everybody confirmed that Help will close. I also spoke with a lawyer here who informed that it is for sure. I guess this time is the right one then! If anybody is here in Rio, send me message we could meet!
[QUOTE=Iluvthatwoman]Guys,
A couple of weeks ago the Help is closing talk started up once again. Now I have been reading the forum for a while and I have seen that talk before but usually someone finds out it is not true. I have not seen anything posted lately on the issue. (I might have missed it). But could someone who is in Country let me know if it is true and if so, does anyone know when it will close.
Thanks in Advance[/QUOTE]
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Rio Othon Palace
Everything is negotiable guys but as previously stated, don't expect to bring a favela gdp into that establishment. If she looks like a normal girl, and u take care of the security-there will be much leeway afforded.
Taking care of your doorman in an upscale building can go a long way as well.
Can someone send me the secret handshake for gpguia.net?
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gpguia.net
I would appreciate that secret handshake too. I understand they have blocked all IP addresses originating from the U.S. Is there some proxy one can use to get around this?
RR
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costs
For some strange reason I decided to keep a log of every penny I spent over a couple of months. 80 sessions came to an average of just over 40R a session. That included a few 'expensive' ones (Balcony etc) and a few freebies. My total spend on food, drink and groceries came to a bit more than the total spend on programmas. Took time off to do the carnaval parade and travel a bit of Brasil.
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Christopherd, I have to go back and read your posts because I blow thru serious money when I am in brasil. I easily drop about 5-8K for a month long vacation. I am headed back in July for a two month trip and I have to try your method of 40R sessions.
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I Concur
[QUOTE=Bravo]Christopherd, I have to go back and read your posts because I blow thru serious money when I am in brasil. I easily drop about 5-8K for a month long vacation. I am headed back in July for a two month trip and I have to try your method of 40R sessions.[/QUOTE]
I will definitely spend my time in Central on my next trip. To hell with Copa & Help.
RonnyRon
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WTF...over? First Fenwick closes in Hong Kong and now Help will close also?
That is two of the most (if not the most) famous places in the world to find plentiful and beautiful ladies. I will be in Rio next weekend for a few days, so I will get one last visit before it shuts the doors. I know there are other, less expensive options, but I haven't found anywhere in Rio with the sheer numbers and variety found at Help. I am sure that they will all move somewhere else, but it is still kind of sad. Terracao Atlantico will suffer as well I am sure.
I guess I will have to try a couple of other locations for the future, seems like moving down the beach is the ticket, Balcony is WAY overpriced, but it does get started earlier, which is a plus!
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[QUOTE=Sky Ryder]WTF...over? First Fenwick closes in Hong Kong and now Help will close also?...........That is two of the most (if not the most) famous places in the world to find plentiful and beautiful ladies![/QUOTE]And do not forget to add Maggies in Beijing which was closed last March in the lead up to the Olympics - only jusy re-opened again 1 month ago - not a shadow of it's former past.
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[QUOTE=RonnyRon]I would appreciate that secret handshake too. I understand they have blocked all IP addresses originating from the U.S. Is there some proxy one can use to get around this?
RR[/QUOTE]This was discussed in January in the Sao Paulo Thread. Look up post # 1914 and higher there.
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Other option in Rio for those who do not like the thermas is the web. Some sites like [url]www.hotside.com. Br[/url] are good. I have experienced. Some beautiful girls and if you have the chance that the girl like you it becomes a real girl friend experience and I would say with better attitude than most of the Help girls. I am staying since two days now with one of the girl from this site and she is very good. I have also noticed that I could not access to GPGuia from europe but now that I am in Brasil it works well! This is another good source of informations really. But to be honest, I have been to Help, Meia Pataca and was very disappointed by the quality of the girls there and the attitude. They all request for 300 RS that goes down to 200-250 after 2 minutes talk but not many I found at my taste. In fact nothing with what it used to be.
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sick of help and balcony??
[QUOTE=Fredyann]Other option in Rio for those who do not like the thermas is the web. Some sites like [url]www.hotside.com. Br[/url] are good. I have experienced. Some beautiful girls and if you have the chance that the girl like you it becomes a real girl friend experience and I would say with better attitude than most of the Help girls. I am staying since two days now with one of the girl from this site and she is very good. I have also noticed that I could not access to GPGuia from europe but now that I am in Brasil it works well! This is another good source of informations really. But to be honest, I have been to Help, Meia Pataca and was very disappointed by the quality of the girls there and the attitude. They all request for 300 RS that goes down to 200-250 after 2 minutes talk but not many I found at my taste. In fact nothing with what it used to be.[/QUOTE]I have to agree with Fredyann that the amount of money and poor attitudes of the woman found around help, balcony, Maps are rediculous. I remember when these woman would be happy to please you for R150 all night long and would clean your apartment in the morning. Now they want R 300. 00 for 3-4 hours with poor service. I refuse to pay these prices for sub par service.
I will be leaving for Rio de Janeiro next week. I will be staying just over 3 weeks. Can anyone on this forum give me directions of how to get to vila memosa or other places outside of copacabana? For example, places in Centro or down town area program girls. I would appreciate anyones advice.
Thanks
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[QUOTE=Fredyann]Other option in Rio for those who do not like the thermas is the web. Some sites like [url]www.hotside.com. Br[/url] are good. I have experienced. Some beautiful girls and if you have the chance that the girl like you it becomes a real girl friend experience and I would say with better attitude than most of the Help girls. I am staying since two days now with one of the girl from this site and she is very good. I have also noticed that I could not access to GPGuia from europe but now that I am in Brasil it works well! This is another good source of informations really. But to be honest, I have been to Help, Meia Pataca and was very disappointed by the quality of the girls there and the attitude. They all request for 300 RS that goes down to 200-250 after 2 minutes talk but not many I found at my taste. In fact nothing with what it used to be.[/QUOTE]Thank you.
I'm glad that fellow mongers are finally admitting that the Copa scene is going to shit. I remember a time when I would get flamed to death on message boards if I said one negative thing about the "beloved" Rio Copa scene.
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RioPenthouses.com
Please let me know if anyone has dealt with Riopenthouses.com and if they are trustworthy. Still trying to get an apartment through the other realtor but the available choices near the beach are not looking so good.
Any info is appreciated. Thanks.
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Question to the guys that use escort websites. Are the girls in the pictures actually the girl that comes to your place or is it bait and switch. they figure once any girl shows up you will take her. What are the best 2 or 3 have independent girls that dont have to deal with the agency.
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Are You Kidding
[QUOTE=Shoesky]I have to agree with Fredyann that the amount of money and poor attitudes of the woman found around help, balcony, Maps are rediculous. I remember when these woman would be happy to please you for R150 all night long and would clean your apartment in the morning. Now they want R 300. 00 for 3-4 hours with poor service. I refuse to pay these prices for sub par service.
I will be leaving for Rio de Janeiro next week. I will be staying just over 3 weeks. Can anyone on this forum give me directions of how to get to vila memosa or other places outside of copacabana? For example, places in Centro or down town area program girls. I would appreciate anyones advice.
Thanks[/QUOTE]
You say that you're tired of Help and Balcony. I don't get it. Then what are you expecting to find in VM?
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[QUOTE=Superion]Thank you.
I'm glad that fellow mongers are finally admitting that the Copa scene is going to shit. I remember a time when I would get flamed to death on message boards if I said one negative thing about the "beloved" Rio Copa scene.[/QUOTE]
I can't believe all this whining!!! How is it going to shit? Because a hand full of people can't get what they want. As a respectable monger, if you've been going to Brazil, and you don't have any skills outside of Help/Balcony/Mabs, then I wouldn't call you a monger at all.
I think the Copa game is only as bad as a person's knowledge or skills. So maybe it's not the Copa scene, it's your lack of skills. And you are not being flamed.
ryjer
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[QUOTE=Brazilman]Question to the guys that use escort websites. Are the girls in the pictures actually the girl that comes to your place or is it bait and switch. they figure once any girl shows up you will take her. What are the best 2 or 3 have independent girls that dont have to deal with the agency.[/QUOTE]
Check out the Escort thread................#540/#541
If you go through the tread you'll get varying opinions. Just be prepared to be disappointed.
ryjer
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[QUOTE=Ryjerrob]You say that you're tired of Help and Balcony. I don't get it. Then what are you expecting to find in VM?[/QUOTE]
Maybe the same thing, but at the price of R$ 25. :D
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I am sorry. I used to go to Help in the past and was some very beautifull women there and not charging like today. Today the level is very poor, honestly. I love beautifull women, model type. I even stayed a year with a top one I met at help but I have been there and it is very low.
For the second question about site with adds yes you can find some very nice one. You just have to take your time. Some site even show the face of the girls and they are the same as on the fotos. If the girl like you as I said she can even stay longer, they are happy to spend good time when they have a good feeling and like you. Check this one... [url]http://www.cidadenua.com.br/rafaferrari.htm[/url] She is very beautiful. If I go for a girl I like this type. If somebody can still fine many options like this in Help then you can even send me some phone in PM, I would be happy !! rsrsrs
I was talking with few people working there at the beach today and they are all happy the Help is closing. It became too low level. No more beauties and the average girls who go there charge a lot for a weak service.
Now everyone its taste, but for my taste Help is not what it used to be and the best girls understood this and left. And Meia pataca is even worst. Nothing that makes you dream...
[QUOTE=Ryjerrob]I can't believe all this whining!!! How is it going to shit? Because a hand full of people can't get what they want. As a respectable monger, if you've been going to Brazil, and you don't have any skills outside of Help/Balcony/Mabs, then I wouldn't call you a monger at all.
I think the Copa game is only as bad as a person's knowledge or skills. So maybe it's not the Copa scene, it's your lack of skills. And you are not being flamed.
ryjer[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Shoesky]I have to agree with Fredyann that the amount of money and poor attitudes of the woman found around help, balcony, Maps are rediculous. I remember when these woman would be happy to please you for R150 all night long and would clean your apartment in the morning. Now they want R 300. 00 for 3-4 hours with poor service. I refuse to pay these prices for sub par service.
I will be leaving for Rio de Janeiro next week. I will be staying just over 3 weeks. Can anyone on this forum give me directions of how to get to vila memosa or other places outside of copacabana? For example, places in Centro or down town area program girls. I would appreciate anyones advice.
Thanks[/QUOTE]When I've visited, I've spent most of my time in Copa Help, Mia, etc. What some other spots which are similar (place to meet girls outside of Termas)?
What is balcony. I've never been there before. Also, is Help suppose to be closing down?
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Fredyann
[QUOTE=Fredyann]Other option in Rio for those who do not like the thermas is the web. Some sites like [url]www.hotside.com. Br[/url] are good. I have experienced. Some beautiful girls and if you have the chance that the girl like you it becomes a real girl friend experience and I would say with better attitude than most of the Help girls. I am staying since two days now with one of the girl from this site and she is very good. I have also noticed that I could not access to GPGuia from europe but now that I am in Brasil it works well! This is another good source of informations really. But to be honest, I have been to Help, Meia Pataca and was very disappointed by the quality of the girls there and the attitude. They all request for 300 RS that goes down to 200-250 after 2 minutes talk but not many I found at my taste. In fact nothing with what it used to be.[/QUOTE]
Hello,
Which girl did you get from Hotside?
What was the price and for how much time on the first visit?
If she is staying more than one day - how much for the 2nd day?
On a separate note, I agree with you about the quality lately. On my last visit, about 3 weeks ago, I thought the quality was lacking as well. On a few occasions I managed to find some nice ones outside at TA and inside of Help. And yes many were asking crazy prices and I had to bring them back to reality. So I just kept moving and looking. If you don't find what you want, grab a drink, keep moving, and be patient. Then when you find your lucky lady, negotiate for what you want. Remember to smile and try have fun with it. I have even left Help without a girl, as many of us do when you can't find your girl. Don't forget, there is still Balcony or you can call a standby. But in the end, I agree the quality of garotas on my last trip was lower than the pervious 4 trips.
Yes, some of the girls have bad attitudes. But those are the girls you don't want anyway. So forget about them and keep fishing.
I still had 2 weeks of fun! And the termas treated me good!
Have fun and stay safe.
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[QUOTE=Ryjerrob]I can't believe all this whining!!! How is it going to shit? Because a hand full of people can't get what they want. As a respectable monger, if you've been going to Brazil, and you don't have any skills outside of Help/Balcony/Mabs, then I wouldn't call you a monger at all.
I think the Copa game is only as bad as a person's knowledge or skills. So maybe it's not the Copa scene, it's your lack of skills. And you are not being flamed.
ryjer[/QUOTE]Go back and re-read your FLAME POST to me and see who's whining. Posters like you are exactly what I was talking about in my original posting.
If you haven't noticed the decline in the quality das garotas de programa na Copa entao. It's obvious that you're a NOVICE.
You assume that I only know the Copa game! Ha ha rss. Keep dreaming. I was tearing it up down there before boards like this even EXISTED.
We're all entitled to our opinions and experiences. Ad hominim attacks are pointless. I am obviously not the only EXPERIENCED monger that has this opinion.
One can still get what he wants in Rio.
It's obvious now that:
A) Rio is no longer a budget destination
B) The quality in the Copa free-lancer scene has dropped off a bit
C) One can still have a good time in Rio, but it'll take a bit more work (and money).
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[QUOTE=Sperto]Maybe the same thing, but at the price of R$ 25. :D[/QUOTE]Co-signed! But since I have apparently never been out of Copa according to some posters here, I wouldn't have any knowledge of these "local" establishments.
The hardcore GDP's in Copa are loathing the fact that some mongers are by-passing their high prices and shit attitudes for cheaper and more fulfilling alternatives.
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On Hotside you have Thais which is much better than most girls from Help. Great body, completa, good attitude, face is ok, not the best but really ok, body as per the fotos. Price 250 RS for 2 hours cession and she called me at night to go out and I had a free night after. Called me again the next day. As she is in Rio only during the week end I shall meet her again this week. She wants to bring me to a swing club so I might say yes to see haha!
Other girl I called and working in Spain. She is now in Rio, a real beauty. Her european site: [url]http://www.luanavip.com[/url]
Well, still many opportunities in fact. And do not forget orkut. This is also a very very good source
[QUOTE=Pipe Layer99]Hello,
Which girl did you get from Hotside?
What was the price and for how much time on the first visit?
If she is staying more than one day. How much for the 2nd day?
On a separate note, I agree with you about the quality lately. On my last visit, about 3 weeks ago, I thought the quality was lacking as well. On a few occasions I managed to find some nice ones outside at TA and inside of Help. And yes many were asking crazy prices and I had to bring them back to reality. So I just kept moving and looking. If you don't find what you want, grab a drink, keep moving, and be patient. Then when you find your lucky lady, negotiate for what you want. Remember to smile and try have fun with it. I have even left Help without a girl, as many of us do when you can't find your girl. Don't forget, there is still Balcony or you can call a standby. But in the end, I agree the quality of garotas on my last trip was lower than the pervious 4 trips.
Yes, some of the girls have bad attitudes. But those are the girls you don't want anyway. So forget about them and keep fishing.
I still had 2 weeks of fun! And the termas treated me good!
Have fun and stay safe.[/QUOTE]
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How do i find this thread.
I went to page 540 541 of this section and found nada.
I'm sure your talking about something else.
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Opinions
Everyone is entitled to their our opinions. I think the guy hasn't had as much fun or hasn't found the quality of girls he has found in the past. So for him maybe it is going to shit. Maybe he just went during low season - who knows. Its still his opinion. As of lately, I agree with his post about the girls. Not to mention some of their attitudes and asking prices. Like I said before, keep moving and looking in other places. Its a hunt, so keep your spear sharp for the next trip. Mine is ready.
[QUOTE=Ryjerrob]I can't believe all this whining!!! How is it going to shit? Because a hand full of people can't get what they want. As a respectable monger, if you've been going to Brazil, and you don't have any skills outside of Help/Balcony/Mabs, then I wouldn't call you a monger at all.
I think the Copa game is only as bad as a person's knowledge or skills. So maybe it's not the Copa scene, it's your lack of skills. And you are not being flamed.
ryjer[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Ryjerrob]I can't believe all this whining!!! How is it going to shit? Because a hand full of people can't get what they want. As a respectable monger, if you've been going to Brazil, and you don't have any skills outside of Help/Balcony/Mabs, then I wouldn't call you a monger at all.
I think the Copa game is only as bad as a person's knowledge or skills. So maybe it's not the Copa scene, it's your lack of skills. And you are not being flamed.
ryjer[/QUOTE]
Gotta 2nd this post....its more about the monger, not the GDP's....
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Help closing???
Wow, everyone is so sad about help closing. For What?? Overpay for some of the same girls u get at the Centro spots or VM or termas or the favela crazies. We are to blame for the price. We let the GDP union local of Copa set a high rate. Once this place closes some of the same girls will be available to you for 150R all night will do as the old saying says Kitchen and bedroom. So everyone please stay in Copa do not go to VM or Centro or other areas because it is very dangerous. How dangerous you ask, you will become addicted to good pussy for far less drama than some of the Help queens.
They see gringo, euro men as money/ suckers.. We are in Brazil sometime we must act Brazilian. (not overpaying)
Have fun and broaden your horizons.. For those who are afraid to do a girl at VM just take her out of there for an hour or you can wait until she goes to help and asks for 300R your choice...
just my 2 cents..
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Help...
After reading all these posts about the closing of Help, I'm fully convinced none of you get it. For those who are happy about Help closing and say it's a good thing here's my take. Help is not only about the GDP experience. Help is walking into the biggest or second biggest nightclub in South America and drinking champagne, living the rock star lifestyle at a fraction of the cost. Then looking around at 500 women, some good, some bad, and some incredible and saying I can take any one of these home. When I go to Rio, I really don't worry that much about what I'm spending. Bottom line, I'm here to have a great time and bang what I consider the most beautiful woman in the world. This last trip I only did Help 4 times in 10 days. Maybe i'm getting older and can't do the all nighters anymore but I still have fun. One of my favorite parts of this trip, were the friends I made from all over the world outside at Terraco Atlantico. With my wingman only there for half the trip, I was on my own and I met so many great guys there. In 2006 I met a GDP there that now lives in Switzerland but still to this day remains my all time favorite. I still hold out hope that this is another false alarm, but with the World Cup and the olympic bid, I think it's for real. I for one will miss it...
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Any predictions on what place will take over for help. Are there any clubs now that are big enough to become the next help. I find it hard to believe that all that money will be left on the table. Someone will fill the void. If I owned a big club that wasnt a hooker place, I would definitely get the word out that it is now.
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[QUOTE=Chingon]It's not the City Government, (Prefeitura,) doing this, but the State Government of Rio de Janeiro. The money has been allocated, per Oglobo reports.[/QUOTE]
Is it the State this time ? I hadn't noticed. It was the Prefeitura last time. More talk that it's closing , I have " friends in low places" that are well connected and should know .......one says it's closing , one says it's not. LOL So it's 50/50
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Okay Lancer, if Help is the second biggest, where is the biggest. I REALLY need to go see this for myself!! I would agree with your assesment that one of the big draws of Help is the entire experience. I think just watching the scenery and realizing that for the most part I can take anyone of those to my bed is intoxicating.
I enjoy the "dance" as much as anything, and my experience is that it is a pretty good indication of what to expect when we are "dancing alone".
I should be in town on Sunday for a couple of days!
Mistro, start the music!
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Help
This is from the Gringo Times.......... If doing a cut'n' paste like this is not allowed please delete it
[url]http://thegringotimes.com/news/rio-business/help-discotech-set-to-close/[/url]
Help Discotech to Close
By Doug Gray, Contributing Reporter
RIO DE JANEIRO - It has been high on Governor Sergio Cabral’s hit list for several years, but it now looks as if the closing of Copacabana’s most notorious nightclub ‘Help’ is finally confirmed. A recent decision by Judge Camila Novaes Lopes ruled in favor of its compulsory purchase by the State of Rio De Janeiro in winter 2009.
Opened in 1985 by the businessman Chico Recarey, Help’s lavish interior and upper class patronage gained it a reputation among the Carioca playboys as a place to see and be seen. But as Copacabana’s star faded at the end of the 80’s, and the rich and famous moved towards Ipanema and Leblon, so too did Help’s.
Now, what was once the largest nightclub in South America, is possibly the continent’s largest brothel. This is why Governor Cabral is financing it’s compulsory purchase to spearhead a tidying-up campaign of the hard-bitten Copacabana neighborhood, which remains one of the city’s biggest tourist attractions.
The plan was first proposed last year, with the idea that the site would be transformed somewhat dramatically into a cultural center as the new Museum of Sound and Vision, but delays and counter-arguments have held the project back. Some of these include the very reasonable consideration that the prostitutes will simply move on to other possibly less safe locations to look for business.
As one girl who wanted to remain nameless put it, “This will do nothing for Copacabana and nothing to stop prostitution. We feel safer at Help than on the streets, but it looks like that is where we will have to go.”
The Governor remains unmoved by such opinions however, and though prostitution remains legal in Brazil, the idea that it is carried out so brazenly and on such a scale in this tourist hot spot appears too great a threat to order in Zona Sul. The 60 day compulsory purchase order has been placed on it, along with a deposit of R$13m, and as such the doors will likely be closing at the end of May.
Nobody was available at club Help to comment.
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[QUOTE=Sky Ryder]Okay Lancer, if Help is the second biggest, where is the biggest. I REALLY need to go see this for myself!! I would agree with your assesment that one of the big draws of Help is the entire experience. I think just watching the scenery and realizing that for the most part I can take anyone of those to my bed is intoxicating.
I enjoy the "dance" as much as anything, and my experience is that it is a pretty good indication of what to expect when we are "dancing alone".
I should be in town on Sunday for a couple of days!
Mistro, start the music![/QUOTE]
I forget where I read there was a bigger nightclub in South America, but it is not like Help. It is just a regular nightclub. Not a place where GDP's go. so don't get too excited. LOL
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Love Story
[QUOTE=Sky Ryder]Okay Lancer, if Help is the second biggest, where is the biggest. I REALLY need to go see this for myself!![/QUOTE]
Love Story in Sao Paulo is almost a big as Help and has always surpassed it in EVERY way : wilder atmosphere, much higher girls level (this is where GDPs from SP upscale clubs go to hang out for late-night fun and possibly make a last buck), more crowded, better music, better clientele, better service, ect.
It's the greatest "secret" in Brasil in regards to nightlife, and simply the best pick-up club on the planet in the history of mankind, bar none. No need to cry over Help.
I made a few posts about LS over the years in the Sao Paulo thread, the last one a few monthes ago :
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=843647&postcount=1997[/url]
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Great Post Lancer
Lancer, I could not agree with you more. For a long time it has become cool for some to bash Help on the board and talk about getting the same girl at VM. That may be true but I happen to like to go out have a good time and hang out with attractive women. I love Brazil and I love Rio. I go there for the sun, the beach and for the women. I have never thought it was "just" about how to get off for the least amount on money. I don't like going to places that smell bad and look like some of the places that other guys on this board go to. But, I am glad they found a plce the like.
I am glad places like Help exist. But I am also places like 4x4, Barberella and VM exist. We all get in where we fit in have a good time. I wish we spent more time talking about the things we like instead all the stuff we hate.
[QUOTE=Lancer520]After reading all these posts about the closing of Help, I'm fully convinced none of you get it. For those who are happy about Help closing and say it's a good thing here's my take. Help is not only about the GDP experience. Help is walking into the biggest or second biggest nightclub in South America and drinking champagne, living the rock star lifestyle at a fraction of the cost. Then looking around at 500 women, some good, some bad, and some incredible and saying I can take any one of these home. When I go to Rio, I really don't worry that much about what I'm spending. Bottom line, I'm here to have a great time and bang what I consider the most beautiful woman in the world. This last trip I only did Help 4 times in 10 days. Maybe i'm getting older and can't do the all nighters anymore but I still have fun. One of my favorite parts of this trip, were the friends I made from all over the world outside at Terraco Atlantico. With my wingman only there for half the trip, I was on my own and I met so many great guys there. In 2006 I met a GDP there that now lives in Switzerland but still to this day remains my all time favorite. I still hold out hope that this is another false alarm, but with the World Cup and the olympic bid, I think it's for real. I for one will miss it...[/QUOTE]
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In Rio
I have been in Rio a week now. Got sick on the way here after a 34 hour flight. Cruised through customs. I was quite worried as a was vomiting on 2 flights, and had 30, 000 are on me in 500 euro notes and some us dollars. Flight arrived at just before midnight. Got a taxi upstairs at arrivals, it come to just under 50r on the meter, would have come to around 45r, but I got a bit lost around the one way system. Phoned 2 garotas I know (1 part time gdp, one normal girl) the part time gdp came round straight away, sex 4 times per day, for the last week. No charge. Except I left my australian adaptor converter to brazilian at home, so I went to Rio sul and bought one she came with me. (I haven't been able to use my laptop for the last 4 days, as the battery is dead.) I felt abliged to buy her a present as I am feeling better now and ready to start my mongering time. Pair off shoes 400r. Adaptor 79r. Alot off women I have bumped into have went off at me for displaying there pictures on orkut. Even though none are off a sexual nature. I must say it has only been the last 2 days I have been able to eat food and am now back up to my regular 5 meals per day off protein low carbs. Tourism is down. So is the quality off garotas, mp is crap. (as usual) I haven't been to help yet, but will go tommorow night. I will spend the last night 2night with the women I invested 400r shoes on. Even though she must have spent 100r on me getting me drinks shower gels etc. But now it is time to monger. Last few days have been very overcast. But am looking forward to hitting helpe 2morrow night, with the termas in the day. Prices in copa seem to have gone up about 25% in the restraunts. Quality off food is down.
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[QUOTE=Prosal]Love Story in Sao Paulo is almost a big as Help and has always surpassed it in EVERY way : wilder atmosphere, much higher girls level (this is where GDPs from SP upscale clubs go to hang out for late-night fun and possibly make a last buck), more crowded, better music, better clientele, better service, ect.
It's the greatest "secret" in Brasil in regards to nightlife, and simply the best pick-up club on the planet in the history of mankind, bar none. No need to cry over Help.
I made a few posts about LS over the years in the Sao Paulo thread, the last one a few monthes ago :
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=843647&postcount=1997[/url][/QUOTE]
I knew I remembered reading it somewhere on this form. Thanks Prosal.
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[QUOTE=Lancer520]I forget where I read there was a bigger nightclub in South America, but it is not like Help. It is just a regular nightclub. Not a place where GDP's go. so don't get too excited. LOL[/QUOTE]
Via Show is bigger than Help
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[QUOTE=Apocalpso]Via Show is bigger than Help[/QUOTE]
Like 3 or 4 times the size of Help!!
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Via Show
Where is Via Show? Is it a normal nightclub or a place for working girls??
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[QUOTE=Chris H]Gotta 2nd this post....its more about the monger, not the GDP's....[/QUOTE]It's more about novices that don't really know shit about the scene and will defend it no matter how bad it gets IMHO.
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[QUOTE=Lancer520]Where is Via Show? Is it a normal nightclub or a place for working girls??[/QUOTE]
It's about a R50 taxi ride into the North Zone. Normal working class younger crowd ,( many of whom are incidently GDPs ) plays mostly Funk Music. Good place to meet regular girls particularly if u have some Portuguese. The ground floor piste can be dangerous , the second floor camarote costs a bit more and is safer. Beer is very cheap usually about R1 each and lots of people tend to get very drunk. If you go with a girl walk her to the toilet and wait for her , she'll get mauled. Top Mc Funk Djs play. Belo often does live concerts there.
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I have been to Love Story many times, and don't know if it is bigger or not, size wise. I am glad that you have found it "bountiful", I on the other hand haven't returned in almost 2 yrs, because only once did I pull a GDP that was worth the effort.
I will agree it is louder and after about 2-3 am more crowded, and it does have it's charms. I still prefer Help, maybe becuase of the beachside setting, or the ability to retire to the balcony to chat, or maybe because I have had better experiences with the Help GDP's. Viva la difference!!
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Via show
Via show is a good club on certain nights, the nights you want to watch out for is when they have fight club "Lado A vs Lado B" Its where two different gangs dance on opposite sides of the club and later duke it out with occassional security organizing the fights. I have heard on occasions people come out of these fights with broken arms, knocked uncounscious etc...
Here is a small clip, some parts of the clip show via show.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ai1lF3phMvs&feature=related[/url]
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[QUOTE=Prosal]Love Story in Sao Paulo is almost a big as Help and has always surpassed it in EVERY way : wilder atmosphere, much higher girls level (this is where GDPs from SP upscale clubs go to hang out for late-night fun and possibly make a last buck), more crowded, better music, better clientele, better service, ect.
It's the greatest "secret" in Brasil in regards to nightlife, and simply the best pick-up club on the planet in the history of mankind, bar none. No need to cry over Help.
I made a few posts about LS over the years in the Sao Paulo thread, the last one a few monthes ago :
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=843647&postcount=1997[/url][/QUOTE]
What is good music to you??? What is wrong with the music at HELP??
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[QUOTE=Sky Ryder]I have been to Love Story many times, and don't know if it is bigger or not, size wise. I am glad that you have found it "bountiful", I on the other hand haven't returned in almost 2 yrs, because only once did I pull a GDP that was worth the effort.
I will agree it is louder and after about 2-3 am more crowded, and it does have it's charms. I still prefer Help, maybe because of the beachside setting, or the ability to retire to the balcony to chat, or maybe because I have had better experiences with the Help GDP's. Viva la difference!![/QUOTE]
Love Story, just like Help must be experienced. It is not for everyone. No, its not as big as Help and it does get VERY crowded! Sometimes you can barely move. The music is more dance, electronica, euro trance, and some hip-hop. It is the place where the GDPs go after the clubs close but, there are also other things going on that you may not want to be around. It is also not in the best of neighborhoods. Not for unescorted newbies (maybe if you are fluent in port). Had a drunk GDP hit on me, but when I left with someone else she threw a drink at me! I once left at 6:00am and it was still packed!
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[QUOTE=Apocalpso]Via Show is bigger than Help[/QUOTE]
True.
And so are also lots of other clubs in Brazil, like the forró clubs in Manaus and Fortaleza.
Mucuripe Club in Fortaleza makes Help look tiny and very lowclass.
[url]http://www.mucuripe.com.br[/url]
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[QUOTE=Chris H] What is wrong with the music at HELP??[/QUOTE]
Music at Help is techno crap for uninspired and tasteless mid-aged gringo mongers, that's all.
Love Story doesn't play in the same league.
It's simply one of the two most "in" after-hours (with Lov.e) of the South America's clubbing capital, and the music you hear there matches this position.
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[QUOTE=Lancer520]Where is Via Show? Is it a normal nightclub or a place for working girls??[/QUOTE]
link for via show
[url]http://www.viashow.com.br/[/url]
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[QUOTE=Chris H]What is good music to you??? What is wrong with the music at HELP??[/QUOTE]
I can't believe you let yourself get baited into asking this question!!! Generally speaking I enjoy all the music I encounter in Brazil. I'm on vacation, and there are tons of women around.
ryjer
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[QUOTE=Superion]It's more about novices that don't really know shit about the scene and will defend it no matter how bad it gets IMHO.[/QUOTE]
What is there to defend?? My original point was, that it gets old when people post the same silly stories about how bad things are in and around Help. I think it's more about so called mongers that complain and don't know shit. And some of these same people only frequent Help and the Termas. This is their only experience, and since this is bad, the entire scene is bad. Copa encompasses more than just the strip of Ave Atlantica.
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[QUOTE=Ryjerrob]What is there to defend?? My original point was, that it gets old when people post the same silly stories about how bad things are in and around Help. I think it's more about so called mongers that complain and don't know shit. And some of these same people only frequent Help and the Termas. This is their only experience, and since this is bad, the entire scene is bad. Copa encompasses more than just the strip of Ave Atlantica.[/QUOTE]On the contrary,the overwhelming majority of posts here sing the praises of the Copa scene. I would say that it gets old when people make up sensationalized accounts about whats going on down there. But to each his own.
In fact nobody here as refuted my statement. Yes, we're all aware of the options OUTSIDE of Copa, but I was talking specifically about Copa and only Copa,yet people take offense as though the own the whole strip down there or something.
Agree to disagree. No harm done.
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[QUOTE=Prosal]Music at Help is techno crap for uninspired and tasteless mid-aged gringo mongers, that's all.
Love Story doesn't play in the same league.
It's simply one of the two most "in" after-hours (with Lov.e) of the South America's clubbing capital, and the music you hear there matches this position.[/QUOTE]
Actually, it just depends on a guys likes and dislikes.
LOVE STORY is for those who dig the electronica, trance type scene.
Though it's an interesting place for sure, it's not my deal.
To each their own really, just because you dig a certain place or it's music, doesn't mean everyone else is tasteless just because they enjoy different venues or music.
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luma Toledo Rio
I met a girl today from [url]http://www.riosexsite.net/d_pagina.asp?c=179&n=Luma+Toledo[/url] A very good experience. I called her 2 days before to mark and she came litle late because was traffic but called me to inform me. I opened the door and she is as much exciting as the fotos from the site were make me think! Nice figure, nice face, nice smile, nice sun tan with the famous "marca de bikini" hehehe!
Everything what she announce on the website is offered and always with smile. Well a good company. Maybe little more expensive than a help girl but at least nothing to be disappointed. I'll see her again at the end of the month. You can even tell I send you if it help as we had a good time I guess she remember me! Hahaha!
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Love story
[QUOTE=Cho 637]Love Story, just like Help must be experienced. It is not for everyone. No, its not as big as Help and it does get VERY crowded! Sometimes you can barely move. The music is more dance, electronica, euro trance, and some hip-hop. It is the place where the GDPs go after the clubs close but, there are also other things going on that you may not want to be around. It is also not in the best of neighborhoods. Not for unescorted newbies (maybe if you are fluent in port). Had a drunk GDP hit on me, but when I left with someone else she threw a drink at me! I once left at 6:00am and it was still packed! [/QUOTE]where is this club located? Maybe I will give it a try. And via show I was told that it is best to go with a girl and it is not a place to pick up GDP. Might get your butt kicked by the locals. Tell me if I'm wrong.
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[QUOTE=Ricker]Actually, it just depends on a guys likes and dislikes.
To each their own really, just because you dig a certain place or it's music, doesn't mean everyone else is tasteless just because they enjoy different venues or music[/QUOTE]
You obviously didn't get my point. It has nothing to do with likes and dislikes. And BTW I don't especially dig electronica.
My point is that one just can't compare Help, whose musical style (uninspired and outdated techno) is oriented to satisfy a clientele of mid-aged gringo mongers who don't give a shit about what they hear, and a place like Love Story, which is the trendiest and most intense after-hours of Sao Paulo, where some of the top-50 brasilian DJs perform regularly and where the sharpest and most demanding brasilian party-goers go for late-night fun.
Anyhow for your info, from 4.30/5am, music in LS is usually mostly Carioca funk and brasilian hits remixes. Maybe you didn't stay late enough to notice it ? ;)
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Same girls on Hotside
I recognized a few of them - just different names on the site below.
Fredyann-
The girl you mentioned - Luana Vip - charges a hoop of cash in Spain.
200 euro for 1/2 hour = R$594
300 euro 1 hour = R$891
500 euro 2 hours = R$1485
Is she smoking crack or what?
I wonder what she asks for in RIO?
I know - I will call her ass in 2 weeks when I get there to find out.
[QUOTE=Fredyann].........For the second question about site with adds yes you can find some very nice one. You just have to take your time. Some site even show the face of the girls and they are the same as on the fotos. If the girl like you as I said she can even stay longer, they are happy to spend good time when they have a good feeling and like you. Check this one... [url]http://www.cidadenua.com.br/rafaferrari.htm[/url] She is very beautiful. If I go for a girl I like this type. If somebody can still fine many options like this in Help then you can even send me some phone in PM, I would be happy !! rsrsrs
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21 year old Garota on Metro
i was leaving termas 502 with my wingman heading back to copa, when we eyed this super darks skinned beauty as we entered uruguaiana station. she was caught of guard when i approached her. she spoke no english, appeared to be young, had a tongue ring, and stood about 5'8" and proportionately thick. her name is zandra.
i was able to get her cell number and a good hard on looking at her luxious dark body. she had ass, thighs, thick ankles, small waist and small breasts. as she walked with her obvious ass fucking bunda, i prayed to be able to communicate, because her english was zero. this meeting was thursaday, march 28.
on saturday i called zandra, and it was painfully difficult trying to get her to understand that i wanted her to visit my apartment. she even walked to a neighborhood girlfriend's house with me on the phone to make an effort to communicate. this made me kick myself for not diligently using my online rosettastone brazilian language course.
answering my prayers, the guy who i rented the apartment from came and translated to give zandra directions to my apartment at migiel lemos and ave. atlantica. based on the translators opinion, this girl doesn't know copa, and will be taking th metro from a rj state city called belford roxo. he said it was a long way by metro. this was 1pm, and she agreed to meet me in front of the othon hotel next to meia pataca in 2 1/2 hours.
as time approached i made it to the hotel, avoiding meia pataca mongers and garotas. i hate when the mp girls say, "hey baby'! i am done with that crowd, because too many of them and help gdp were asking r$400 for 2 hours. although there were the smart girls who fucked for r$200. i was experienced enough to now the smart ones who wasn't listening this fat bald headed dike named rosa, who is pimping new girls to ask for the high prices. but i told the friendly new american mongers to take nothing higher than r$200.
anyway, zandra showed and we walked straight to my apartment. what disappointed me was she had 2 kids and she smoked. but she was 21 years old, and had a body that was sexy enough to be at a monte carlos or luomo, because her ass was pretty, black and big for a tall girl, and she had the legs to her feet just as sexy. her face was sharp featured with thick lips and she had long-braids.
well, with my poor portuguese and nonenglish speaking, all we did was fuck. she was a great bbbj giver, she took it in the ass like she was competing for an olympic gold medal, and her pussy was tight. we fucked from 3pm until 7pm, then she was hungry and when i mention what food she wanted, it was carry out pizza and back to my apartment. she didn't want the restaurant scene.
after ordering the pizza, we had to wait 50 minutes to pick up our order. so we went over to the migie lemos internet cafe to use an online translator to get some things understood, like, when i return to brazil you are mine right, she said yes. zandra showed me her orkut page and we solidified that she will be my reliable piece of ass.
when we paid for the internet, a strange thing happened. this fat ass brazilian guy working there said some portugese shit that made her somewhat uncomfortable. and i suspect that he has scene enough of us americans with their women that he had to say something, because she glanced at me as he was talking. fuck him. we went back for our pizza.
back at the apartment we at pizza and fucked until she had to catch the last metro. man she liked it in the ass. i also took photos that i will post. so in another awkard situation, i asked how much reis for her time and she said, "voce no programa", or something like that. but i understood. however, for 8 hours of fucking and a great time, i gave her r$200 reis and she sat there like, "what am i suppose to do with this? " she had two kids and came a long way. needless to say, we fucked some more and she missed her metro, but we wnet to the bus stop on copacabana blvd at 11:30pm and she caught the central bus.
now i am going to deal with her. being a young mother, i think she is trainable. she was willing to make an effort to have fun, and hasn't been caught-up in the mp and helpee gdp. she will be the girlfrind who lives far enough away from the action to spend time that a local can't give her, then go home. i want more of these type of girls, and i will make it worth their wild. she braids her for a living. she also used the online translator, as i taught her, to send me emails in the states. but i won't be sending any big screen tv and the dumb stuff i heard guys do when they lose their minds. but a few extra things for her and her 2 and 4 year old girls wouldn't hurt but go a long way.
i've added five photos. i have some more reporting to do. i didn't care for balcony. i discovered 502; had a great tme at 4x4, luomo and monte carlo where all the terma girls i sessioned with game me numbers for home service. one even rents apartments for visiting mongers.
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[QUOTE=Ryjerrob]I can't believe you let yourself get baited into asking this question!!! Generally speaking I enjoy all the music I encounter in Brazil. I'm on vacation, and there are tons of women around.
ryjer[/QUOTE]
You are right I got baited...seems I was asking an old fart the wrong question....
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A little Better Look
Jamaicanceo,
Very nice report! I have a bit of time on my hands, so I thought I would edit your photos to get a better look. Very NICE! The last photo is very good, so no need to edit, just click on Jamaicanceo last photo! Off the chain!
RonnyRon
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[QUOTE=RonnyRon]Jamaicanceo,
Very nice report! I have a bit of time on my hands, so I thought I would edit your photos to get a better look. Very NICE! The last photo is very good, so no need to edit, just click on Jamaicanceo last photo! Off the chain!
RonnyRon[/QUOTE]Thanks Ron. I did have a time with sizing the photos. I'm really determined to meet more non Copacabana girls. I love watching the centro women.
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Damn, that girl makes Wesley Sniped look Albino.
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Jamaicanceo, what application do you use to get the pictures that small? Once I reach around 56K, i cant reduce them any smaller.
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[QUOTE=Bravo]Jamaicanceo, what application do you use to get the pictures that small? Once I reach around 56K, i cant reduce them any smaller.[/QUOTE]I used [url]www.shrinkpictures.com[/url].
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[quote=jamaicanceo]i was leaving termas 502 with my wingman heading back to copa, when we eyed this super darks skinned beauty as we entered uruguaiana station. she was caught of guard when i approached her. she spoke no english, appeared to be young, had a tongue ring, and stood about 5'8" and proportionately thick. her name is zandra.
i was able to get her cell number and a good hard on looking at her luxious dark body. she had ass, thighs, thick ankles, small waist and small breasts. as she walked with her obvious ass fucking bunda, i prayed to be able to communicate, because her english was zero. this meeting was thursaday, march 28.
on saturday i called zandra, and it was painfully difficult trying to get her to understand that i wanted her to visit my apartment. she even walked to a neighborhood girlfriend's house with me on the phone to make an effort to communicate. this made me kick myself for not diligently using my online rosettastone brazilian language course.
answering my prayers, the guy who i rented the apartment from came and translated to give zandra directions to my apartment at migiel lemos and ave. atlantica. based on the translators opinion, this girl doesn't know copa, and will be taking th metro from a rj state city called belford roxo. he said it was a long way by metro. this was 1pm, and she agreed to meet me in front of the othon hotel next to meia pataca in 2 1/2 hours.
as time approached i made it to the hotel, avoiding meia pataca mongers and garotas. i hate when the mp girls say, "hey baby'! i am done with that crowd, because too many of them and help gdp were asking r$400 for 2 hours. although there were the smart girls who fucked for r$200. i was experienced enough to now the smart ones who wasn't listening this fat bald headed dike named rosa, who is pimping new girls to ask for the high prices. but i told the friendly new american mongers to take nothing higher than r$200.
anyway, zandra showed and we walked straight to my apartment. what disappointed me was she had 2 kids and she smoked. but she was 21 years old, and had a body that was sexy enough to be at a monte carlos or luomo, because her ass was pretty, black and big for a tall girl, and she had the legs to her feet just as sexy. her face was sharp featured with thick lips and she had long-braids.
well, with my poor portuguese and nonenglish speaking, all we did was fuck. she was a great bbbj giver, she took it in the ass like she was competing for an olympic gold medal, and her pussy was tight. we fucked from 3pm until 7pm, then she was hungry and when i mention what food she wanted, it was carry out pizza and back to my apartment. she didn't want the restaurant scene.
after ordering the pizza, we had to wait 50 minutes to pick up our order. so we went over to the migie lemos internet cafe to use an online translator to get some things understood, like, when i return to brazil you are mine right, she said yes. zandra showed me her orkut page and we solidified that she will be my reliable piece of ass.
when we paid for the internet, a strange thing happened. this fat ass brazilian guy working there said some portugese shit that made her somewhat uncomfortable. and i suspect that he has scene enough of us americans with their women that he had to say something, because she glanced at me as he was talking. fuck him. we went back for our pizza.
back at the apartment we at pizza and fucked until she had to catch the last metro. man she liked it in the ass. i also took photos that i will post. so in another awkard situation, i asked how much reis for her time and she said, "voce no programa", or something like that. but i understood. however, for 8 hours of fucking and a great time, i gave her r$200 reis and she sat there like, "what am i suppose to do with this? " she had two kids and came a long way. needless to say, we fucked some more and she missed her metro, but we wnet to the bus stop on copacabana blvd at 11:30pm and she caught the central bus.
now i am going to deal with her. being a young mother, i think she is trainable. she was willing to make an effort to have fun, and hasn't been caught-up in the mp and helpee gdp. she will be the girlfrind who lives far enough away from the action to spend time that a local can't give her, then go home. i want more of these type of girls, and i will make it worth their wild. she braids her for a living. she also used the online translator, as i taught her, to send me emails in the states. but i won't be sending any big screen tv and the dumb stuff i heard guys do when they lose their minds. but a few extra things for her and her 2 and 4 year old girls wouldn't hurt but go a long way.
i've added five photos. i have some more reporting to do. i didn't care for balcony. i discovered 502; had a great tme at 4x4, luomo and monte carlo where all the terma girls i sessioned with game me numbers for home service. one even rents apartments for visiting mongers.
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[QUOTE=Bravo]Jamaicanceo, what application do you use to get the pictures that small? Once I reach around 56K, i cant reduce them any smaller.[/QUOTE]I am not Jamaicanceo, but try using irfanview (free image browser) to resize your images. The key is to NOT save any extra metadata (IPTC data etc.) when you save as jpg.
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[QUOTE=Prosal]
Anyhow for your info, from 4.30/5am, music in LS is usually mostly Carioca funk and brasilian hits remixes. Maybe you didn't stay late enough to notice it ? ;)[/QUOTE]
Got ya amigo.
BTW, I went to a place in SP with my girlfriend last weekend to see Calcinha Preta.
It was a large club with multiple levels and sections with different music types and shows in each section.
Lots of hot chicas about, non-pros. I was getting lots of looks even though I was with my girl.
It was open til like 6am. Different than LS, but it was cool and fun.
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[QUOTE=Jamaicanceo]So in another awkard situation, I asked how much reis for her time and she said, "Voce no programa", or something like that. But I understood. However, for 8 hours of fucking and a great time, I gave her R$200 reis and she sat there like, "what am I suppose to do with this? "... I want more of these type of girls, and I will make it worth their wild.[/QUOTE]
Jamaicanceo, why on earth did you offer her money after having sex?
That would be a major insult to most non-pro girls. If I did something like this to my regular non-pro GF's they would slap my face and never meet me again. They are proud of being hard-working (or studying) women. Getting paid after having sex with a gringo is the same as calling them a "puta".
In this forum I often read "in the end we always have to pay for them". IMO that is pure BS. Most non-pro girls don't expect to get paid in any way. At least not if they really like you. Taking them out to dinner, giving them a present or money to taxi are nice gestures, but that's nothing that's being expected.
It's not about being cheap. It's a matter of showing them respect and treat them like a real girlfriend.
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Yes, Just Like A Girlfriend
[QUOTE=Sperto]Jamaicanceo, why on earth did you offer her money after having sex?. . . .
That would be a major insult to most non-pro girls. If I did something like this to my regular non-pro GF's they would slap my face and never meet me again. They are proud of being hard-working (or studying) women. Getting paid after having sex with a gringo is the same as calling them a "puta".
In this forum I often read "in the end we always have to pay for them". IMO that is pure BS. Most non-pro girls don't expect to get paid in any way. At least not if they really like you. Taking them out to dinner, giving them a present or money to taxi are nice gestures, but that's nothing that's being expected.
It's not about being cheap. It's a matter of showing them respect and treat them like a real girlfriend.[/QUOTE]Dinner, presents "taxi" money. EVERY woman wants something. Showing them "respect" means showing that you are of substance. In this world that means cash or cash equivalents. That's how "real" girlfriends expect to be treated.
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[QUOTE=Sperto]Jamaicanceo, why on earth did you offer her money after having sex?
That would be a major insult to most non-pro girls. If I did something like this to my regular non-pro GF's they would slap my face and never meet me again. They are proud of being hard-working (or studying) women. Getting paid after having sex with a gringo is the same as calling them a "puta".
In this forum I often read "in the end we always have to pay for them". IMO that is pure BS. Most non-pro girls don't expect to get paid in any way. At least not if they really like you. Taking them out to dinner, giving them a present or money to taxi are nice gestures, but that's nothing that's being expected.
It's not about being cheap. It's a matter of showing them respect and treat them like a real girlfriend.[/QUOTE]LOL! Here we go. You know I thought about not giving her any money, and when I did I thought about why did I do it.
I did it because overall she performed above and beyond with meeting me on the metro, either of us were able to communicate because of language, and without BS, gave me all the BBBJ, ass and pussy I wanted and as often as I wanted for 8 hours without negotiations. And I remember her going into the livingroom and retrieving some flavored dick sucking lotion, and literally skipping back to me so she can suck my dick.
Ok, it was an insult to offer her money, but if I am willing to give a termas R$200 for an hour of sex, and a MP or Help bimbo many, then she deserves an offering. She was very polite. And when I do her again, I will put some reis in her hand, especially with er being a young mother, and taking time to see me after a couple of hours on the metro.
But Sperto, I respect your opinion. And I knew you were going to bark at me when I made my initial post. But she was good. And when I said I wanted photos, she bent over, pulled her panties aside and showed me her nice tight brown-eye. I know ou wish you were there!
Just kidding!
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[QUOTE=Legal Tender]Dinner, presents "taxi" money. EVERY woman wants something. Showing them "respect" means showing that you are of substance. In this world that means cash or cash equivalents. That's how "real" girlfriends expect to be treated.[/QUOTE]I agree. It was all about respecting her. She said to me she was no programa. But at least she respected the fact that I didn't take her for granted. And she has been sending me online translation emails everyday.
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[QUOTE=Sperto]Jamaicanceo, why on earth did you offer her money after having sex?
That would be a major insult to most non-pro girls. If I did something like this to my regular non-pro GF's they would slap my face and never meet me again. They are proud of being hard-working (or studying) women. Getting paid after having sex with a gringo is the same as calling them a "puta".
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I dont know any non-pro females in Rio would would go to a complete stranger's house (Someone who they cant even have a simple conversation with) and fuck him all day long, without expecting some sort of payment.
Dont get fooled by that whole "You arent a programma or why are you giving me money BS" Thats like women here in the states who act like they are reaching for their purse when the dinner check comes, they are doing it for show!!
Jamaicanceo happened upon a GDP who was headed home. No normal women is going to allow a gringo to take naked pics of her one day after meeting them. Rio is alot of fun, but it isnt that wild and care free!!
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[QUOTE=Bravo]I don't know any non-pro females in Rio would would go to a complete stranger's house (Someone who they can't even have a simple conversation with) and fuck him all day long, without expecting some sort of payment.
Don't get fooled by that whole "You arent a programma or why are you giving me money BS" Thats like women here in the states who act like they are reaching for their purse when the dinner check comes, they are doing it for show!
Jamaicanceo happened upon a GDP who was headed home. No normal women is going to allow a gringo to take naked pics of her one day after meeting them. Rio is alot of fun, but it isn't that wild and care free! [/QUOTE]And I believe you are right. Assuming all aspects, I offered the money. I told my wingman that she could've been a centro termas girls; or Aceva calls them, "A diamond in the rough. " When se it her cigarette afer each session, and posed for the pictures, some things made me think she was a downtown termas girl.
But she still did a great job satisfying me. I will keep her on call. At least I know she is no trouble. Plus, she was pretty clean. However, I wasn't willing to taste.
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[QUOTE=Bravo]Jamaicanceo happened upon a GDP who was headed home. No normal women is going to allow a gringo to take naked pics of her one day after meeting them. Rio is alot of fun, but it isnt that wild and care free!![/QUOTE]
Interesting point about the pictures.................makes perfect sense!!!
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[QUOTE=Ryjerrob]Interesting point about the pictures.................makes perfect sense!!![/QUOTE]I still enjoyed myself. Shit, I just turned 50. R$200 reis is cheap for that much fun. A 27 year old business associate said his buddy dropped $2,000.00 in Las Vegas this past weekend for his 30 birthday. Now who had more fun reis per dollar?
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[QUOTE=Legal Tender]EVERY woman wants something. Showing them "respect" means showing that you are of substance. In this world that means cash or cash equivalents.[/QUOTE]
That might be how things works in the US and Europe, but not necessarily in Brazil.
I have a very healthy relationship with my girlfriends in Brazil. They know I only stay for a short time and some of them propably suspect that I have girlfriends in other cities. We keep in contact and we meet every year and have our adventure. They want nothing else than having a good time.
This works fine with me. Anyway, each to their own. If other guys feels the need to pay, go ahead.
[QUOTE=Bravo]No normal women is going to allow a gringo to take naked pics of her one day after meeting them. Rio is alot of fun, but it isnt that wild and care free!![/QUOTE]
I guess the women I meet are not normal. :D
They are happy to pose.
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[QUOTE=Ricker]BTW, I went to a place in SP with my girlfriend last weekend to see Calcinha Preta.
It was a large club with multiple levels and sections with different music types and shows in each section.
Lots of hot chicas about, non-pros. I was getting lots of looks even though I was with my girl.[/QUOTE]
That's what is great in Sao Paulo. I can't think about another place on the planet with a better nightlife. You can hit a different cool, large and "in" (and crowded) place every day of the week during six monthes without even BEGIN to discover what the city has to offer. I've been told that only in Itaim Bibi/Vila Olimpia neighborhood, there's something like 200 - regular - upscale bars, lounges and clubs !
Anyhow don't spread too much the secret : in EVERY way (and especially for P4P), Sao Paulo blows Rio out of the water. ;)
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[QUOTE=Sperto]
I guess the women I meet are not normal. :D
They are happy to pose.
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One important thing you have to remember Sperto is that you are fluent in portugese. Jamaicanceo couldnt even speak enough portugese, to make the girl understand something as simple, as his apartment address. So obviously he didnt woo her with his wit, charm or sense of humor. (I am not slamming you Jamaicanceo, I appreciate you posting your experiences). Again, its obvious he ran into a GDP who was on her way home.
I think we have to look at the situation with common sense. Its like my co-workers who approach me and ask "Hey Bravo. Where is that beach that I see on this internet site? Its called Mike in Brazil! I want to go there!"
They actually think that shit is real!!! I usually ask them "Do you honestly believe you can walk up to a total stranger, a super hot young woman at that. Not be able to speak the language. And within 10 minutes you will have her back at your apartment, you will be fucking her in the ass and filming the whole thing too? They then look at me like I just told them that Santa Claus wasnt real.
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[QUOTE=Bravo] They then look at me like I just told them that Santa Claus wasnt real.[/QUOTE]
Stop playing, we all know there is a Santa Claus. Next thing you'll be saying, is that it isn't the tooth fairy who took my teeth and left me all that cash!!!!!!
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Jamaicanceo
Nice report. Nice girl. Almost looks straight out of Africa. Procrastination and indicision are the thieves of life. You my man had the balls to walk up and start a conversation with her. In return, you were pleasently rewarded with a fine bunda!
Great find!
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Hit the Nail
[QUOTE=Bravo]I dont know any non-pro females in Rio would would go to a complete stranger's house (Someone who they cant even have a simple conversation with) and fuck him all day long, without expecting some sort of payment.
Dont get fooled by that whole "You arent a programma or why are you giving me money BS" Thats like women here in the states who act like they are reaching for their purse when the dinner check comes, they are doing it for show!!
Jamaicanceo happened upon a GDP who was headed home. No normal women is going to allow a gringo to take naked pics of her one day after meeting them. Rio is alot of fun, but it isnt that wild and care free!![/QUOTE]
Bravo is 100% correct; women in Rio - esp. Non-Pros - are very wary of Gringos. Most of the time the will not even look at you to say hi. I have been all over Rio and this mostly the case. Usually, the only way to meet a non-pro is throught contancts.
In spite of a lot of other appearances, Brazilans are very conservative.
My guess the girl the Jamc meet wanted to establish a longer term realtionship with future reutrns. Hell, she may have even liked him (GdPs are human are all). But this behavior is very a typical of a Brazilain woman and should be viewed as such.
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[QUOTE=Bravo]One important thing you have to remember Sperto is that you are fluent in portugese. Jamaicanceo couldnt even speak enough portugese, to make the girl understand something as simple, as his apartment address. So obviously he didnt woo her with his wit, charm or sense of humor. (I am not slamming you Jamaicanceo, I appreciate you posting your experiences). Again, its obvious he ran into a GDP who was on her way home.
I think we have to look at the situation with common sense. Its like my co-workers who approach me and ask "Hey Bravo. Where is that beach that I see on this internet site? Its called Mike in Brazil! I want to go there!"
They actually think that shit is real!!! I usually ask them "Do you honestly believe you can walk up to a total stranger, a super hot young woman at that. Not be able to speak the language. And within 10 minutes you will have her back at your apartment, you will be fucking her in the ass and filming the whole thing too? They then look at me like I just told them that Santa Claus wasnt real.[/QUOTE]She came by two days later, not 10 minutes; and I think I would her by my good looks. Thank you very much. Being handsome could go a long way.
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Jamaicanceo's girl
It has become an amusing thread. Jamaicanceo met a girl in the metro station and managed to get laid and take some pictures. Great! Suddenly everybody takes the conclusion that she was a pro.
I don't know neither Jamaicanceo or the girl but I can't see any reason at all why she should have been a pro. Wake up! It do happens that people meet, feel a mutual attraction and have sex without money being involved.
Centro is a very good place to meet non-pro's. Girls with regular works living far away from the copa-scene. Take a stroll in centro and try yourself. Flirt, smile, chat, have a suco and date. Try not to get brain-washed from the copa-scene.
Anyway, I enjoyed Jamaicanceo's report. Nice pics as well.
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I guess you are right Sperto, maybe I should just look at the bigger picture. In the end, if she is or isnt a CGP, its really not that important. I am just happy that he wrote about his experiences and posted up photos.
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I agree
[QUOTE=Bravo]I guess you are right Sperto, maybe I should just look at the bigger picture. In the end, if she is or isnt a CGP, its really not that important. I am just happy that he wrote about his experiences and posted up photos.[/QUOTE]
Jamaicanceo wrote a good report and added pictures. IMHO, no need to rain on his parade. With all the f**ked things going on in this world right now, I for one really enjoyed reading Jamaicanceo experience. This life is short. Get as much as you can out of it without harming others. Sounds like he did on that day.
RonnyRon
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Not Raining, just making observations
I'm never one to rain on any one's happiness; becuase in the end, that's all the really matter: are you happy? I think we were just trying to give another explanation in order that he is not disappointed.
Jamicaeico was happy with the girl and the time they spent together, and believe me, I am happy for him.
As for seeing girls in other parts of Rio: I've been to Centro, Niteroi, went to Via Show, when to Samda school, went to Macarana, went to Castlo das Predas (sp); I've rode the Metro, and the Onibus all over Rio and have seen thousand of girls and watched their behaivor. What "I" noticed is that most girls usually only socialize with others they know, or people that know the people they know.
People like Bravo and Sperto have wayyy more expericned in Brasil ( all over the counttry, not just Rio) and can say if I'm seeing things.
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Dwilso39 I Hear You
I have a friend right now who is working to bring a girl to the U.S. His first trip to Rio was Nov. 2007. He knew everything and nothing at all. Where did he meet her? Help. What was the catch? She spoke English. She seems like a nice person. Is he crazy? I think so, but really who I am I to say. My other friends and I often debate the situation, but in the final analysis it is his decision. Maybe it will turn out good for him. I let him know all the reason why it is not a good idea starting the fact she has 3 kids, but hey he is a grown man and it's his life. Perhaps, he has it right and we are all wrong. My next door neighbor is married to a Brazilian women from Rio. I would guess he is 60+ and she looks to be in her early 40's. They look pretty happy to me. One thing is for sure. She puts the 20 something girls who live around me to shame! Time will tell.
RonnyRon
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RR, your boy thinks a prostitute with 3 kids is a good catch?!!! Tell him to come up here to NYC, I can take him to Hunts Point where he can find the same thing and not have to deal with the Visa issue! LOL
Oh and props to your neighbor with the hot wife!
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The Girl From Monte Carlo
Hi lads,
Not sure if this is correct protocol but I wanted to mention that I had the best ever Christmas and New Year due to this site. I stumbled across it when looking for a place to rent. ISG popped up in the Google search. Thank God for meta links is all I say.
I read the reports of distinction and even printed some of them out. I decided to take the plunge and become a monger. I tried L'Uomo on my second day in Copa and didn't look back – three weeks of sun, booze and women. Although I ventured to 4x4 (shagged the biggest bunda I've ever seen and loved it!) and some of the cheaper places around Centro I found myself drifting back to L'Uomo and then I discovered Monte Carlo, too. I felt the prices (around £100/£160) for a good night out that included drinks and a shag to be a worthwhile price to pay on holiday.
I'd wake up in the morning, grab a coffee and some food, have a walk along the beach, read my book, have some lunch and then a siesta then go out around 8pm. I met some nice blokes who had grins on their faces as big as mine as we sat looking at the wares on show. It was like an adult Christmas grotto.
On my second to last night I visited Monte Carlo and saw what can only be described as a piece of heaven. I think her name was Fernanda, or Nanda. She stood out from the rest of the girls because she just kind of leaned against the wall looking vulnerable and innocent. She was slim but with curves (smallish fake boobs) about 5'7" and with really long brown hair with a bit of wave in it that she constantly twirled around her fingers coquettishly. Her features reminded me of a southern Italian. She could talk no English and my Portuguese wasn't great but she agreed to come upstairs. Immediately she got on all fours and grabbed my cock to plunge it straight into her sweet puckered arse. How could a man resist? I shot my wad pretty swiftly but she was so hot I managed to get it up again.
I spent 40 minutes with this babe and I don't think I'll ever forget her. She wasn't the friendliest, or had the most outrageous body, she was just, different. The moment made my holiday. I don't know if anyone else has experienced her (I didn't take pics and haven't seen any on this site) but if you get the chance you won't regret it.
I think I'll be back in Rio for Christmas this year and will take as much from these reports as I can, such is their usefulness.
All the best!
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Nice job, Jamaicaceo
I rarely post on this board and its usually just to add a comment about non-pro's. I truly believe many guys have no real clue as to how women work/function/operate. They spend so much time focused on P4P, they have difficulty grasping female biology.
Women like sex. Brazilian women really like sex. But more or less, women like sex. The challenge for most women is finding a guy WORTH having sex with i.e. cool, confident, relaxed, alpha, part of a tribe she wants to join or at least visit, etc. Do you guys really think that if a good looking, confident, Brazilian guy with almost zero English went to a night club in the States, he'd have trouble getting a woman home quickly if he knows how to pull? Uhhhh, no. Most of the time women are paying attention to body language, vibe, tone of voice, eye contact, etc. so your words can actually screw things up.
Jamaicaceo knows how, so he pulled. Sperto and others know how, so they pull. Has nothing to do with P4P or GDP. Get better at the game and save your cash.
DRGN
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[quote=jamaicanceo]i was leaving termas 502 with my wingman heading back to copa, when we eyed this super darks skinned beauty as we entered uruguaiana station. she was caught of guard when i approached her. she spoke no english, appeared to be young, had a tongue ring, and stood about 5'8" and proportionately thick. her name is zandra.
i was able to get her cell number and a good hard on looking at her luxious dark body. she had ass, thighs, thick ankles, small waist and small breasts. as she walked with her obvious ass fucking bunda, i prayed to be able to communicate, because her english was zero. this meeting was thursaday, march 28.
on saturday i called zandra, and it was painfully difficult trying to get her to understand that i wanted her to visit my apartment. she even walked to a neighborhood girlfriend's house with me on the phone to make an effort to communicate. this made me kick myself for not diligently using my online rosettastone brazilian language course.
answering my prayers, the guy who i rented the apartment from came and translated to give zandra directions to my apartment at migiel lemos and ave. atlantica. based on the translators opinion, this girl doesn't know copa, and will be taking th metro from a rj state city called belford roxo. he said it was a long way by metro. this was 1pm, and she agreed to meet me in front of the othon hotel next to meia pataca in 2 1/2 hours.
as time approached i made it to the hotel, avoiding meia pataca mongers and garotas. i hate when the mp girls say, "hey baby'! i am done with that crowd, because too many of them and help gdp were asking r$400 for 2 hours. although there were the smart girls who fucked for r$200. i was experienced enough to now the smart ones who wasn't listening this fat bald headed dike named rosa, who is pimping new girls to ask for the high prices. but i told the friendly new american mongers to take nothing higher than r$200.
anyway, zandra showed and we walked straight to my apartment. what disappointed me was she had 2 kids and she smoked. but she was 21 years old, and had a body that was sexy enough to be at a monte carlos or luomo, because her ass was pretty, black and big for a tall girl, and she had the legs to her feet just as sexy. her face was sharp featured with thick lips and she had long-braids.
well, with my poor portuguese and nonenglish speaking, all we did was fuck. she was a great bbbj giver, she took it in the ass like she was competing for an olympic gold medal, and her pussy was tight. we fucked from 3pm until 7pm, then she was hungry and when i mention what food she wanted, it was carry out pizza and back to my apartment. she didn't want the restaurant scene.
after ordering the pizza, we had to wait 50 minutes to pick up our order. so we went over to the migie lemos internet cafe to use an online translator to get some things understood, like, when i return to brazil you are mine right, she said yes. zandra showed me her orkut page and we solidified that she will be my reliable piece of ass.
when we paid for the internet, a strange thing happened. this fat ass brazilian guy working there said some portugese shit that made her somewhat uncomfortable. and i suspect that he has scene enough of us americans with their women that he had to say something, because she glanced at me as he was talking. fuck him. we went back for our pizza.
back at the apartment we at pizza and fucked until she had to catch the last metro. man she liked it in the ass. i also took photos that i will post. so in another awkard situation, i asked how much reis for her time and she said, "voce no programa", or something like that. but i understood. however, for 8 hours of fucking and a great time, i gave her r$200 reis and she sat there like, "what am i suppose to do with this? " she had two kids and came a long way. needless to say, we fucked some more and she missed her metro, but we wnet to the bus stop on copacabana blvd at 11:30pm and she caught the central bus.
now i am going to deal with her. being a young mother, i think she is trainable. she was willing to make an effort to have fun, and hasn't been caught-up in the mp and helpee gdp. she will be the girlfrind who lives far enough away from the action to spend time that a local can't give her, then go home. i want more of these type of girls, and i will make it worth their wild. she braids her for a living. she also used the online translator, as i taught her, to send me emails in the states. but i won't be sending any big screen tv and the dumb stuff i heard guys do when they lose their minds. but a few extra things for her and her 2 and 4 year old girls wouldn't hurt but go a long way.
i've added five photos. i have some more reporting to do. i didn't care for balcony. i discovered 502; had a great tme at 4x4, luomo and monte carlo where all the terma girls i sessioned with game me numbers for home service. one even rents apartments for visiting mongers.
[size=-2][b][u]editor's note[/u]:[/b] [blue]i would suggest that the author or another forum member consider posting a link to this report in the reports of distinction thread. please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?]click here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size][/quote]you could have had a good meal at bibi's on the corner off miguel lemos and ns copacabana. food comes in less than 10 minutes. (franga is good. 15r each max plus drinks). few drinks and back for action. i'm off to aprador tonight for a meal, then sex on the rocks at aprador. goto love outdoor action.
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miami peep show
on a nice friday early afternoon walking down copa me and my wingman (for purposes of the tape 'l') we was slightly bored and at a loose end of what to do after heavy session the night before, something popped into my head about miami peep show, so i suggested this to 'l' whom although had never been knew where it was and as it happened we was only few blocks away. in the walk to miami i was telling 'l' what i had heard about it, and the more we discussed it the more appealing and great fun it sounded, on route to miami we bump into another mongerer who casually asks what were up to and we casually reply on our way to miami, this results in a small smile but with a look of yeah anything goes, its rio.
we arrive at miami (which incidently is almost directly accross from 9am fuk joint 500 apt 487 on copa ns)
miami is a porno shop downstairs but immedietly you can sense the seedyness on entering (in a good way) were greeted by the porno seller downstairs where i recolled you need tokens and you can purchace here, i also recolled what you don't use you can cash back in again, its 1r per token.
with out knowing the setup we quickly hand over $20r and get 10 tokens each. we proceed up the stairs where serveral brazillians are hanging out minding their own business and don't bat an eyelid (drinking skol cans from vending machine $r2) i see a bored with around 15 garotas on it where me and 'l' spend a couple of minutes looked and discussing which is fuckable and which is not etc. i then realsie there is several cabins immedietly behind us when it was brought to my attention the 'designated cum cleaner' (ie young guy with a mop) had vacated a cabin. we kinda laughed at eachother and decided to get in a cabin. on entering cabin (which has a nice seedy feel) there is a screen, a small wooden stool and and coin bit to put your tokens, so i'm in, door locked behind me puts some tokens in, then the lights come on allowing you to see the revolving circular stage with pole in middle, with two garotas dancing around, i was just absorbing the bizrarreness when it crossed my mind the girls could see in so was away to pull the little man out and do a bit of flashing through the window (well i didn't really know what i was going to do but as i say it was bizarre) when at the last second i clocked several sets of eyes from accross the revolving stage of other punters in their cubicles, which i immeditely found amusing and was wondering what was going through 'l' mind anyways my $5r had ran out and in this time i remmebered there was more to miami than this. but coincidently after out miami experience i asked 'l' if he realsied everyone could see us sitting there, he was like yeah this brazilian guy opposite was sticking his tounge out licking the window as the girl passed sticking her bunda out and which was a comedy moment said he thought this was normal practise and procceded to do the same, with full visual demonstation, which then and now still brings tears of laughter
anyways i come out give his cubicle a knock and were back looking at the 15 girls with numbers on them, i guess looking confused about the setup of this the 'designated cum cleaner' offered assistance, and surprisingly spoke ok english and was rather helpful. so the just was there is bigger private cubicles to the right of the circular ones. back to discussing out numbers ie chosen garota. none appeared to be oil paintings but as it turns out the camera used must be an original 1920s number. to add to the bizarreness of the place one which caught my eye was marked with out a number and said receptionist, this was another comedy moment requesting the receptionist to the 'designated cum cleaner' wingman 'l' went for a masked garota (which would have been my choice as at least was a but of chance to the table.
so were shown to our cubicles and the 'designated cum cleaner' ever so helpful sorts the girls for us and proceeds to put my tokens in (which are a pain in the ass to get in) so i'm in this large cubicle, sitting on the wooden stool, looking at the large pane of glass in front of me, wondering what the fu*k was away to happen i notice at the very top of glass theres like a 7" gap (i'm 190cm and was well higher than me) so i'm sitting there and the receptionist appears from behind a curtain behind the glass, starts doing a dance, so i'm figuring its just another wank booth but with closer action. then to my surprise the logistics of the open topped pane of glass comes alive when she becons me to stand on the stool and get closer, on doing so i'm concerned my head will go through the roof or this badly made stool from a primary school kid is going to colapse. then the magic of it all happens her hand comes down and unbuttons my shorts and procceds to give me a hand job whilst i'm fingering her pussy and doing the 'horse shoe move' (thumb in ass and first finger in pussy) all this whilst balancing on this uneven stool rocking about (which i now know can be heard outside i'm now wondering where the fu*k i cum then realsied its just all over the glass, so now back to concentrating on cumming and to my horror the light comes on and she litteratly disappears behind her curtain, i'm now standing up dick in hand shorts round my ankles trying to work out how the fu*k to get down of the stool. so realsied i needed more tokens (and fast) goes outside the cabin, clearly everyone knew i had just run out of tokens and clearly i wasnt the first and the cum cleaner knew this who quickly sprang into action and ran over and got me 5 more tokens, again he rapidly get the tokens and puts them in for me, this time i know the process so immedietly up on the stool shorts down, dic* in hand waiting she appears again and straight back to where we left off, this time i definetly was going to cum and cum i did, which was great after the built up experience of the previous 10 minutes, afterwards i felt sorry for the cum cleaner as it was quite a large load all over the window. that was me done so back outside, decided to take a seat after be advised by the cum cleaner that 'l' was still in there. after few minutes i decided i needed a cigarette so went outside and had a one, with all the thoughts of amusement and bizareness that had just happened, on leaning against the wall on a busy high steet on my own i realsied i was getting a few looks so turned round and remembered i was in fact standing outside a sex shop, and not just a discreet back street sex shop. decided to go back upstairs and wait for 'l' each minute was getting longer and longer sitting there watching people going to the cheaper no contact cabins.
eventually 'l' appears with a big smile on his face and we immedietly leave laughing and discussing our time in miami, it turns out the exact same thing had happened to 'l' being caught short with his 5 tokens, so unlike me buying another 5, he without knowing the protocol either bought 20! lol
we walked back towards copa laughing, telling our story, doing actions and movements, and demonstating the likes of the wobbely stools and 'l' tonging the window immitating a brazillian accross in a cabin. and all in all great experience long lasting memorys of high amusement and definetly many a bar story to be told for years to come.
all in all 'only in rio'
great thanks goes out to 'l' it was great conqering miami peep show with you.
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Drgn
Really?
I hope Jackson will let this this post go through.
You make a very good point about a brazilian guy going in a club in the states and pulling an AW. However my point is "Why don't you stay in states if you really know how to pull? "
You want me to tell why?
Because everything your are pulling outside the states is better value then the best thig in the states.
And I am tellig you this as a guy who grew up in easter europe.
I hope ypu will not get mad because of my post. I do respect "each to his own stile"
Happy hunting to everybody
ZAP
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[QUOTE=Drgn]I rarely post on this board and its usually just to add a comment about non-pro's. I truly believe many guys have no real clue as to how women work/function/operate. They spend so much time focused on P4P, they have difficulty grasping female biology.
Women like sex. Brazilian women really like sex. But more or less, women like sex. The challenge for most women is finding a guy WORTH having sex with i.e. cool, confident, relaxed, alpha, part of a tribe she wants to join or at least visit, etc. Do you guys really think that if a good looking, confident, Brazilian guy with almost zero English went to a night club in the States, he'd have trouble getting a woman home quickly if he knows how to pull? Uhhhh, no. Most of the time women are paying attention to body language, vibe, tone of voice, eye contact, etc. so your words can actually screw things up.
Jamaicaceo knows how, so he pulled. Sperto and others know how, so they pull. Has nothing to do with P4P or GDP. Get better at the game and save your cash.
DRGN[/QUOTE]Thanks DRGN!
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[QUOTE=Jamaicanceo]Thanks DRGN![/QUOTE]
Jamaicanceo,
Your post serves as an inspiration to those of us who would like to meet non-pros. Thanks for the post.
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Good point Macrino
[QUOTE=Macrino]Nice report. Nice girl. Almost looks straight out of Africa. Procrastination and indecision are the thieves of life. You my man had the balls to walk up and start a conversation with her. In return, you were pleasantly rewarded with a fine bunda!
Great find![/QUOTE]Jamaicanceo,
It doesn't matter if she was really a GDP or not- the important thing is you had the guts to approach her. I'm still kicking myself after an incident in Centro last October. I was waiting at a bus stop to catch a a bus to Copa- I was headed for L'uomo. I spied a vision of loveliness at the other end of the bus stop and, as I tend to do, sidled over to have a closer look. She was incredibly beautiful and I was smitten. Then to my surprise she asked me the time- there's no way a girl like that would have spoken to me at a bus stop in Oz. So what did our hero do? Told her the time, gave her a cheesy smile and then- nothing. I was still trying to think of something to say when her bus arrived and she took off. And I speak Portuguese! Once at L'uomo I tried to find an antidote. In the form of a statuesque mulata. To the dark depression I was sinking into, but my heart really wasn't in it. Who knows if anything would have come of it, but I've had a few sleepless nights since thinking about what might have been. So Jamaicanceo, more power to you- fortune favours the brave.
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[QUOTE=JohnnyBraz]You could have had a good meal at bibi's on the corner off miguel lemos and ns copacabana. Food comes in less than 10 minutes. (franga is good. 15r each max plus drinks). Few drinks and back for action. I'm off to aprador tonight for a meal, then sex on the rocks at aprador. Goto love outdoor action.[/QUOTE]Hi Johnny,
I ate breakfast at Bibi's the morning after I arrived in Rio on April 2. It was my first-time there. I like their beef crepe.
Thanks for the recommendation though.
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[QUOTE=Cho 637]Jamaicanceo,
Your post serves as an inspiration to those of us who would like to meet non-pros. Thanks for the post.[/QUOTE]Ok Cho! But like the ISG veteran say, learing portuguese is the key to getting the girls who don't know english.
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No Wonder I Was So Disappointed When I Went to Rio...
From [u]Time Magazine[/u]: [url]http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1890260,00.html?loomia_si=t0:a16:g2:r2:c0.0696486:b23801814&xid=Loomia[/url]
[b]Brazilian Obesity: The Big Girl From Ipanema[/b]
By Andrew Downie / Sao Paulo / Friday, Apr. 10, 2009
When most people think of Brazilians, they think of Gisele Bundchen...
With thousands of miles of sun-kissed coastline, Brazil is a beach nation, one where people like nothing better than to spend weekends and holidays with a cold one on the sand. But the chances of spotting sun-tanned beauties in tiny bikinis are getting smaller and smaller, according to a government study released this week. Research shows the number of Brazilians suffering from obesity is growing. And the trend towards the fuller figure is most prevalent among women. "Obesity among women had stabilized in previous studies and now there is an expressive increase," says Deborah Malta, the study's coordinator. "That is very worrying."
Some 13% of adults are obese, according to the study, which was carried out last year among 54,000 people for Brazil's Health Ministry. The percentage is 13.6 for women and 12.4 for men. Meanwhile, almost half of all adult males, 47.3%, are considered simply overweight, while 39.5% of females are in the same bracket. Those figures are still low compared to industrialised nations such as the U.S., where more than a third of all adults are considered obese (a condition defined by weight and height). But Malta said the trend was clear and that Brazil is slowly on the same path. In 1975, similar studies showed that only 2.8% of men and 7.8% of women were obese. Just seven years ago, the numbers were 8.8% and 12.7% respectively.
The study, carried out for World Health Day (April 8), covered many health-related topics and threw out some contradictory figures as well. Although Brazilians are getting fatter, they are eating less red meat and more fruit and vegetables, Malta reported. They are smoking less and taking more preventive tests such as mammograms and pap smears. But they are using less sunscreen and drinking more, especially to excess and often when driving.
Nevertheless, in body-conscious Brazil, the nation of Gisele Bundchen, plastic surgery and miniscule bikinis, it was the obesity figures that caused the most anxiety. Any suggestion that [b]the girl from Ipanema is not tall and tan and young and lovely, but could possibly be short and pale and fat and ugly,[/b][i]{emphasis added}[/i] can cause a scandal here. When The New York Times reported in 2005 that Brazilians were getting fatter, the correspondent came under attack in the media as a gay, Brazilian-hating heretic.
Indeed, Malta called that earlier report "disrespectful" and preferred to emphasize that Brazilians are relatively slim compared to their counterparts in the West. "I think Brazilians are still worried about their bodies; when we compare ourselves to the rest of the world we are still much thinner," she told TIME. "And remember, this is not just Brazilians that are getting fatter, this is a worldwide phenomenon."
Independent experts, however, cautioned against such nationalistic one-upmanship. Already one in four hospital beds are taken up by people suffering from weight-related ailments such as heart attacks, back surgeries and hip and joint replacements, says Luiz Vicente Berti, president of the Brazilian Society of Metabolic and Bariatric Surgery. Unless preventive action is taken to educate people, he warns, Brazil faces a sick and expensive future. "If we don't teach people how to eat properly and exercise, then in 10 years no one will have the money to pay the hospital bills that will arise," Berti says, adding that the number of stomach reduction surgeries carried out in Brazil had risen by 500%. "The U.S. can't solve its problem and it is the biggest economy in the world."
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[QUOTE=Macrino]Nice report. Nice girl. Almost looks straight out of Africa. Procrastination and indicision are the thieves of life. You my man had the balls to walk up and start a conversation with her. In return, you were pleasently rewarded with a fine bunda!
Great find![/QUOTE]I think in most cases, if you make eye contact with any woman who likes a flirter like me, she will wonder and anticipate your next move. A closed mouth doesn't get feed, as the saing goes.
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No Wonder I Was So Disappointed When I Went to the US...
[QUOTE=Dodger Bulldog]Brazilian Obesity:...
Some 13% of adults are obese, according to the study, which was carried out last year among 54,000 people for Brazil's Health Ministry....[/QUOTE]
Luckily they don't get close to the US statistic.
US: 30.6% of Americans are obese, 63% of Americans are overweighted with a Body Mass Index in excess of 25.
[url]http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/51585.php[/url]
[url]http://www.americansportsdata.com/obesitystats.asp[/url]
I would rather choose to f**k an overweighted brazilian woman with a round bunda than an overweighted american or european woman with a giant flat ass.
Anyway, there are plenty enough of slim girls so I don't worry about the fat ones.
Sidenote: As being European I got chocked, when I visited the US, by the great number of incredible fat people. The only place in the US where I saw plenty of good-looking girls were in Miami. They were all latinas.
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In a Rio gym v. a Los Angeles gym
When I went to the gym in Rio last week, I noticed fit looking women. When I went to the gym in Los Angeles yesterday, I noticed many folks fat, over-weight, and chunky women.
I am usually careful believeing what I read over what I see.
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[QUOTE=Musze3000]Has anyone been to Rio Antigo recently? Are they still open? I have always been curious of this place, it is on Rua Joaquim Silva, 2.[/QUOTE]
I'd like to get an update on Rio Antigo, as well. I went there a few years ago with Bubba right after their remodel, and the place was really nice -- even though there were only a handful of hotties. I don't see anything written about them recently.
Also, man there seems to be a lot of hate for Copa termas lately ... 4-5 years ago I had a great time at Monte Carlo, Luomo ... but what I'm seeing written here lately is making me wonder what's up.
I liked 4x4 but boy was it crowded and full of brazilian bunda-types when I was there.
Have things really gone downhill so much in Copa? Got an upcoming visit in May and was really looking forward to it.
I've always tried to give accurate, good reports (look at my post history), so PM me if you have any more recent news you think is useful.
Cheers,
Cartman
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What about the beaches?
Gents,
In typical fashion, the scheduling gods have once "rained" on the parade. I may only wind up with 2 days and 1 night, in Rio. One thing I haven't seen much talk about recently is if there is still action on the beach?
On occasion I have had good luck finding a "nooner" on the beach that turned into an all nighter.
I know it is the wrong board, but if anybody has any info about Campinas. please let me know.
This may turn out to be my last opportuntiy to visit Help, before it closes, so Monday night is planned, but looking for something to do during the day and early evening.
Thanks,
Sky
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My Discovering 502
On Thursday, March 26, 2009, I discovered terma 502. On our way to 4 x 4, my mentor, because he introduced me to Brazil in March 2008 and we bumped into each in Copa thi trip, ended up in 502 by accident. As we approached 4 x 4, I noticed some serious bunda in in front of the location with a guy on a chair as if her was security or a doorman of some VIP party. I went over to investigate and discovered a "bunda house". We went up stairs and ended up in the bar with some serious big ass bunda. No pun intended. My buddy found sone fun in a dark corner, and I end ed up sessioning with Andrea. Man, she had an ass like a Clydesdale horse in a Budweiser commercial. And she was perfect because I was determined not to go for the dark skinned big ass garotas.
She said she is from Paulista, Brazil, and she was half Brazilian and half Italian. And she had an ass like an Italian stallion, meaning it's ass fucking time. And she ws very entusiastic. She put some Ben-gay heat stuff on my dick and proceeded withh BBBj. !0 minutes later, she filled her mouth with hedgy bull and ice and gave me a heat and cold BBBJ treatment. The she put a Hall's menthol cough drop into her mouth which enhanced the BBBJ to another level. All together she gave me a 4 level BBBJ.
Then I wasted no time for the culo. She took it in her anal cacity like a champ. When I approached climax, I pulled out of her ass she turned her bg ass around took my rubber jimmy off began BBBJ, as I grabbed her head with both hands and blasted loads of cum in her mouth. I began having a brain freeze because she continued sucking and tickling y nut sack at the same time. After, she gave me her phone number, and I was impressed when she said she is 37 years old. After I showered dressed and found my wingman for our flight back to Copa via one of my favorite places, the metro. There I met my chocolate garota from m earlier post, that I banged on Saturday.
I like 502 a lot. But everyone wanted a tip. From the cashier to the doorman in front.
See 502 pictures attached.
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[QUOTE=Sperto]Sidenote: As being European I got chocked, when I visited the US, by the great number of incredible fat people. The only place in the US where I saw plenty of good-looking girls were in Miami. They were all latinas.[/QUOTE]Don't get me wrong guys, I am certainly no promoter of the women in the U.S. - not over Brazil or any other place.
Nor do I know anyone who has ever stepped outside the country who is. I find it quite bizarre that the U. S. would be anyone's country of choice to compare other women against.
To monger in Rio was truly a lifelong dream for me. However, I came away disappointed by the looks and size of many of the garotas. Maybe from everything I had read my expectations had grown too high.
Of course, there are beautiful, sexy woman to be found in any corner of the world. It's just that the consistency of quality in Rio was far less than I had been led to believe.
So I found it interesting that this phenomena was also noticed and commented on by the mainstream media.
I am glad that Jamaicanceo was thrilled by his girl in the post right below this one. She is a perfect example of the protoype garota that I saw quite frequently in Rio, and one who I would not personally find to be appealing. She appears to be the complete antithesis of "tall and slender and young and tan..." Well, maybe tan.
To each his own.
It is a very good thing that we don't all desire the same type of woman. Viva diversity!
DB
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[QUOTE=Jamaicanceo]Ok Cho! But like the ISG veteran say, learing portuguese is the key to getting the girls who don't know english.[/QUOTE]
Preaching to the Choir! :)
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[QUOTE=Dodger Bulldog]Of course, there are beautiful, sexy woman to be found in any corner of the world. It's just that the consistency of quality in Rio was far less than I had been led to believe.[/QUOTE]
Can't agree more.
Even in the cosmopolitan bowels of Rio, every hot woman comes associated with 10 fat and ugly others. Go in any favela, in Zona Norte or in Baixada Fluminense, and this number pass to 1 to 50. The myth of Brasil being a sexually uninhibited paradise populated with top-level exotic beauties is totally over-rated (as many other mythes concerning Brasil BTW, but you have to accept to scratch beyond the surface to know it).
As you correctly stated, and as it's permanently refuted by the daydreamers and blind mongers a la Sperto who see this country through rose tinted lenses and live in recurrent denial of the realities, the density or ratio of short and fat -and black - women in Rio is very very high. It's a pure fact.
There are places on this planet where it's difficult to make 10 meters without bumping into a tall and thin top beauty (FSU comes first to mind, and especially Uzbekistan which is my personal new favorite place), but it's definitely NOT the case of Rio, not the case of Nordeste, and not the case of Amazonas.
Nonetheless I must admit that a State as Goias has a pretty high density of hot white meninas. Few mongers go to Goiania though.
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[QUOTE=Prosal]Go in favelas, in Zona Norte or in Baixa Fluminense, and this number pass to 1 to 50... most women in Rio are in the short and fat range.[/QUOTE]
Yes, it's really an awful sight! I can hardly stand it.
:D :D :D :D :D
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[QUOTE=Sperto]Yes, it's really an awful sight! I can hardly stand it.
:D :D :D :D :D[/QUOTE]
Well, everything is a question of standarts.
As your favorite mongering places are obviously (you won't deny that I guess) low-end nasty mass-prostitution joints with their disgusting waste baskets full of cum-soaked tissues and used condoms next to the beds and their 20 reals animal-faced nightmare black hoes who each day take dozens of filthy favelado mongers blow loads of fetid splooge in their gaping pie holes, I easily imagine that yours are not that high.
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[QUOTE=Prosal]Well, everything is a question of standarts.
As your favorite mongering places are obviously (you won't deny that I guess) low-end nasty mass-prostitution joints...[/QUOTE]
Yes Prosal, for once you hit the nail on the head.
When I visit those joints I'm as happy as a pig in the mud. :)
BTW, I've posted photos of my, what you classify as, "20 reals animal-faced nightmare black hoes".
I'm sure we all would be happy to see a photo contribution of your girls, showing your high standarts. ;)
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[QUOTE=Sperto]When I visit those joints I'm as happy as a pig in the mud. :)[/QUOTE]
Why am I not surprised ?
Anyhow "in the splooge" would be more accurate.
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New Boite 'CASABLANCA'
Firstly I'm always a bit dubious of strip club type boites. The old Soho storys of the girls 'drinks' hefty doormen emptying your credit cards etc etc.
But I feel Casablanca (located on street around the corner from Rio International 'Porto Bay' Hotel 5 mins from Balcony) is worthy of a good review
A friend had advised me it was newly opened begining of April, an Italian guy owns it and has spent a shit load of money doing it up, I decided to check it out on my own as the balcony gangster chics had finally pissed me off for that day! Around 11:30 or so I went round on approaching door man came up (pleasent) explained was a card system for drinks, free entry (maybe as new) so basically asked if I bought my one beer and left I'm charged one beer, he agreed that was the deal.
Went in, maybe because I heard he was italian the owner (elderly gent) but was instantly apparant in the italian decor, italian marble and lighting etc all very nice. Ordered a Heneikan Bottle (10R) then some bizarre music starts, so this is the start of the strip show, but with a witches theme, all wizard of oz stuff, blowing wind music stuff. Grabbed a seat at the bar, (nice bouncy gas stools) watched the show, which was great. Was highly impressed, so on with the girls. Couple approached me and a little chat (all english speaking) All the girls friendly and nice looking, no gansta chics at all, no ink girls, all young pleasent girls. This cute quite big natural breasted chica was giving me the eyes so got chatting, got a feel of her bare breasts and a SF (smelly finger) in discreet fashion but she was up for it as much as I was.
Talked money in jokey way and was surpirsed to know they had inhouse cabins! And even more surprised at the price $R150 (or $R300 at my hotel all night) opted for the $R150 it was still early about 12:15pm. Went to the cabin, highly impressed all brand new immaculate cabin. Had a great fuk, Only thing didn't really discuss how long the $R150 was for, but either 40mins or an 1hr would have been what it was, but I knew before hand I was just having a quickie as planning Helpe that night, great BBBJ, smile or her face from moment I met her until I left, just great little bit of fun, in great nice friendly boite, I spoke with the Italian owner who was very friendly he basically told me it was new, and anything I liked or didn't like about his place, please please tell me. I couldn't fault it, I explained the place looked great, the cabins were great and the prices were good.
I think with popularity maybe prices might grow or entry fee anyways, ok the $R10 for a beer is not the cheapest but it was henekin importo so big deal a couple of Reias extra than a skol in balcony ($R6)
My total bill for a good 8\10 girl in cabin maybe around 40 mins I was in and 2 beers $R170, nice relaxed vibe and good effery put into the shows as well. Around 12-14 girls working all in 7 or 8\10.
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Boite EROTIKA (Prado Junior)
I had seen Erotika many times before but had never been in, a hottie I fucked a few times I met in barbarellas said she now works there and was a lot better that barbys, ie staff, prices for drinks, girls etc etc
I had planned going on last visit in January after we arranged by email, but (got caught up So it was a Friday night, been to monte carlos earleir left about 9pm relaxed had shower, headed down to Erotika, wasnt sure what the set up was, arrived around 12:30 the place was bouncing, instantly I forgot it was a place in the similar sentence to Barbarllas, it was playing good high energy dance music people dancing and generally the vibe of a regular club, there were normal guys out on dates, regular guys picking up regular girls, but on the side lines were glammed up GDPs and topless chics dancing around the place. Rather bizarre guess reminded me of some of my eastern european adventures
I took a table at the back, got topped up on my cubas and just tried to work out WTF was going on and the setup, got speaking to this girl, she was nice enough but wasnt commiting at this stage as was many many hot chics around, slipped away and headed to the bar, got speaking to this girl, nice enough looking but clearly a vetern and then she introduced me to her 2 young hot girls who clearly look up to her, (which I liked) Veteran maybe 32\33yrd.
Anyways having great time, happy drunk, playing around, kissing all 3 girls then a spot of 3 way kissing with the veteran and the hottest of the 2 young ones, all having great time, so Amateur sounding or not I had pulled and was a case of get your jackets ladys you have pulled
Of we went, my bill was $R172 no idea what it consited of but I did check at the time and was happy, I bought a few rounds and had several Cuba libres myself so £50 or something for few hours fun and entry! Thats a round or so in UK!
Back to my apart\hotel, kissing, groping on way home, (I live close) we gets back, gets in the door, my mate (who I forgot about about) was lying on the sofa in the living room, the girls asked who it was I just casually without thinking or anything said 'security' procceded to my bedroom, kitted out with super kingsize (a request I like, as I like duplas) then the veteran says I agreed $R200 each girl, which I hadnt, but she didn't say it in anyway bad, just part of our fun, anyways. Stupid as it may sound but money, GDPs and paying was far from my thoughts but I quickly realsied I was in Rio and infact they were GDPs but I wasnt gonna let 10 seconds and a split desicion of getting annoyed ruin 3hrs of previous fun so I just said you can have $R100 each and sort of said the veteran can go, looking back it was all too simple she just kissed with tounges and left her number and wished me and her friend have a good time, so she left, we got down to business (can't recoll any perfomances) but was just a drunken one night stand type of deal.
Anyways, I woke up in the morning, wondered where the fuk I was, realised my room, had instant flash backs of the girls, then had another instant flashback of me doing 2x$R600 withdrawls earlier on before going in! Don't know why 2 withdrawls but I guess I figured the $R600 wasnt going to be enough ($R600 max from pharmacy banco, useful tip) anyways looks for my jeans containing wallet not in my room goes to living room and sees them beside my mate still crashed out on sofa.
He said the girl had just woken him up holding my jeans, and saying I was crashed out but agreed to pay her $R200 (maybe I did but don't recoll it) I had already given her $R100. But bizarely becuase I had casually said security coming in, she went through with the jean containing about $R900 in them, so my mate gave her the $R200 and off she went, clearly any GDP worth her salt would have whipped the wallet and anything else I had stupidly left out! (yes it was amateur move) But as it turned out good, I was still quids in as had $R700 in my wallet had a good [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] up and good fun, and seemingly my mate got a good vocal display, (she was a bit of a screamer)
End result great night down Boite 'Erokita, Prado Junior
Please note this mix of regular people and GDPs and tits out on dance floor and public sex displays are on Fri and Sat only, other nights are different with strip shows and sex shows, but all GDPs. I'll maybe do seperate report on the Monday night I went.
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[QUOTE=Dodger Bulldog]Don't get me wrong guys, I am certainly no promoter of the women in the U.S. - not over Brazil or any other place.
Nor do I know anyone who has ever stepped outside the country who is. I find it quite bizarre that the U. S. would be anyone's country of choice to compare other women against.
To monger in Rio was truly a lifelong dream for me. However, I came away disappointed by the looks and size of many of the garotas. Maybe from everything I had read my expectations had grown too high.
Of course, there are beautiful, sexy woman to be found in any corner of the world. It's just that the consistency of quality in Rio was far less than I had been led to believe.
So I found it interesting that this phenomena was also noticed and commented on by the mainstream media.
I am glad that Jamaicanceo was thrilled by his girl in the post right below this one. She is a perfect example of the protoype garota that I saw quite frequently in Rio, and one who I would not personally find to be appealing. She appears to be the complete antithesis of "tall and slender and young and tan..." Well, maybe tan.
To each his own.
It is a very good thing that we don't all desire the same type of woman. Viva diversity!
DB[/QUOTE]Hey Dodger,
The 502 girl in my post below was what my dick wanted at that moment. The prototype for me on an everyday bases is tall and slender.
I've met that garota, and she is not find, fuck and forget material. The girl that I am happy to treat better than monger meat is 25 yrs old, speaks english, 5'11", with model, arms, legs, and feet. And she has her own house, though it's small. She calls me and I her. And she is a feak who you can't find on Copa, because she doesn't like Copa, and says she's brown enough not to need to much Sun, in which I agree. She is dark brown all around.
So don't mistake my fucking conquest versus my romantics. I'm a monger, 50, no kids, and never married. I'm ready to settle down and have kids, and I will do it in Brazil. But what I find, fuck, and forget as a monger, I share with my fellow mongers.
So those who like to ass fuck big ass garotas like the one in the post below, you know her name and where to find her.
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[QUOTE=Prosal]Can't agree more.
Even in the cosmopolitan bowels of Rio, every hot woman comes associated with 10 fat and ugly others. Go in any favela, in Zona Norte or in Baixada Fluminense, and this number pass to 1 to 50. The myth of Brasil being a sexually uninhibited paradise populated with top-level exotic beauties is totally over-rated (as many other mythes concerning Brasil BTW, but you have to accept to scratch beyond the surface to know it).
As you correctly stated, and as it's permanently refuted by the daydreamers and blind mongers a la Sperto who see this country through rose tinted lenses and live in recurrent denial of the realities, the density or ratio of short and fat -and black - women in Rio is very very high. It's a pure fact.
There are places on this planet where it's difficult to make 10 meters without bumping into a tall and thin top beauty (FSU comes first to mind, and especially Uzbekistan which is my personal new favorite place), but it's definitely NOT the case of Rio, not the case of Nordeste, and not the case of Amazonas.
Nonetheless I must admit that a State as Goias has a pretty high density of hot white meninas. Few mongers go to Goiania though.[/QUOTE]Do you go to Brazil to conduct a statistical study on ratios big and small, ugly or not? Of course there are always more imperctions than perfection. That's why diamonds are so expensive. The perfect stone brings value, and it decreases to no value. Many of us mongers in Brazil look for the beauty and perfections, not the flaws.
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Qucik Current report on 4x4
Previously had never been, caught a Txi from Princesa Isabel around 2:15pm got to 4x4 Beunos Aires street in Centro around, 2:40pm. Drive asked if going to 4x4 said no, as he will get $10R or maybe even $20R which will inevibly be padded to my bill at the end. 4x4 address is 44 Beunos Aires Street. Small narrow street, easy to find 4x4 if you just off anywhere on steet, but its in about the middle of the steet. (taxi was $R20)
Theres a bar downstairs which I didn't go in, and termas upstairs, theres the desk and a lot of girls floating around but was in no mood to chat to any until I got my bearings of the place, I still don't know all the doors as their all very similar looking, but gets to the locker area. I remembered in a previous post an ISG member found the older lady in the locker rooms very nice and always tips her, I also found her nice and as it happens $R5 was all I had so tipped her the $R5 which she was greatfully happy with, so I guess tipping her is a rarety, after all if anything she is providing a service, and if you require larger robe or flip flops she would be more than happy to sort out for you. So a small tip is nice gesture.
In changing rooms 4 big coloured Americans are getting changed, no portuguese the old lady was trying to help them get flip flops, but they were all insistant they would wear their own NIKE or whatever multi coloured ones they 'thought' were cool! So that was that but the next insitant was ridiculas, they all put on flat cap type hats back to front on!
So I let them into Boite before me so I could choose not to sit near them as it kinda pissed me off and not what I'm used to in my favourite termas (jocky club, area) So finds a seat but amongst the maybe 50-80 girls I was a little distracted at the 4 big guys in black flips and bizarre back to front flat caps! Anyways they were attracting attention for the wrong reasons and I was attracting attentions for right reasons, qucikly relaxed when I seen other girls pointing and sniggering at them trying to own the place hehe. IMO I got possibly the two hottest girls doing a bit of competing around my table, decided to do a dual screening process so bought few drinks, had a laugh and just simply couldn't decide, so finally asked them if they liked eachother (I'm in the middle, chic eachside) they clearly new eachother but dunno how well, they smiled and said yes, asked them to prove it LOL. They smiled and leaned between me and started kissing, which I then joined in also. OK problem of choice making solved, fuk it I'm having a Dupla! Was watching my flat cap friends having ZERO luck, tapping up girls, girls walking away. Fuk it was great! So decided to finish drinks, then do a longer route to the cabin past their MEN only area LOL chic on each side, three faces smiling, three faces clearly all in great spirits away to have a fuk fest dupla! Decided was little low on energy after my 12hr session in Nosso previous night but I was on form no getting away from that! So figured I was in for the girl on girl fun and playing around with only a 1 pop finale. Fun it was! Light brown skinned chic one darker name bebe or something and luciane I think, I meet so much I always forget names. Great 3 way fun, 6 holes covered in short bursts. Finished getting double head CIM both of them got a bit.
Kissed them good by gave them a muito obrgado and a big smile, which was replied with nau nau muito obrigado you. So all 3 partys to the tansaction overly happy, another great experience! Went back to the boite, checked my Phone had couple of waters, found my cap wearing friends still without chicks, it was like old saying 'you couldn't get pissed in a brewery' well they couldn't get fucked in a ***** house! But each to their own. I do things my way and happy to wear the chosen termas uniform 'like EVERYONE else'
I'm now thinking over my plans its maybe 7pm, decides to head back to copa to aprtment. On way back decides to call my Nosso Garota from Lastnight, ended up arranging to meet her, but when I got back to hotel had unplanned siesta which resulted in me being 45mins late LOL Carioca or wot! Anyways, she waiting for me, we just carried on with the GFE, BFE from night before, upgraded room to $R69 in Nosso Motel, we ordered Americano Sandwich which was ham\eggs which was great at the time and what I needed. Had a jaquzzi payed around relaxed a bit then felt back to a reasonable permormance level to complete the next 10 hrs I had left before check out!
Overall 4x4 cost me $R480 this was for dupla for 1 hr, got it just before 5pm so enterance $R40 waived, dunno if it was $R200 for each girl or if cabin only pay once but considered it cheap as was in for 3 or 4 hrs and had several drinks. As reported it is very busy place, I was in robe and in club before 3pm and it was BUSY! So couldn't recommend going later as it was busy then. But also I generally prefer going in first getting the girls fresh and full of energy, so my usual termas opens 3pm in Gavea so would catch taxi from copa at 3 pm so in for first rounds. And enjoy the quieter vibe and selection process and as my fav termas not on general tourist beat, being a gringo and being early always get top treatment and my usual seats, and pick of girls. Just my thoughts on it.
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For anyone on the ground in Rio today, they would have noticed that in the afternoon waves from the beach were covering all off the sand in places along copa, ipenema and especially aparador. Was in mp earlier. Same shit. But there seems to be a few more gdps out for the easter weekend.
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[QUOTE=Marcop 12]Firstly I'm always a bit dubious of strip club type boites. The old Soho storys of the girls 'drinks' hefty doormen emptying your credit cards etc etc.
But I feel Casablanca (located on street around the corner from Rio International 'Porto Bay' Hotel 5 mins from Balcony) is worthy of a good review
A friend had advised me it was newly opened begining of April, an Italian guy owns it and has spent a shit load of money doing it up, I decided to check it out on my own as the balcony gangster chics had finally pissed me off for that day! Around 11:30 or so I went round on approaching door man came up (pleasent) explained was a card system for drinks, free entry (maybe as new) so basically asked if I bought my one beer and left I'm charged one beer, he agreed that was the deal.
Went in, maybe because I heard he was italian the owner (elderly gent) but was instantly apparant in the italian decor, italian marble and lighting etc all very nice. Ordered a Heneikan Bottle (10R) then some bizarre music starts, so this is the start of the strip show, but with a witches theme, all wizard of oz stuff, blowing wind music stuff. Grabbed a seat at the bar, (nice bouncy gas stools) watched the show, which was great. Was highly impressed, so on with the girls. Couple approached me and a little chat (all english speaking) All the girls friendly and nice looking, no gansta chics at all, no ink girls, all young pleasent girls. This cute quite big natural breasted chica was giving me the eyes so got chatting, got a feel of her bare breasts and a SF (smelly finger) in discreet fashion but she was up for it as much as I was.
Talked money in jokey way and was surpirsed to know they had inhouse cabins! And even more surprised at the price $R150 (or $R300 at my hotel all night) opted for the $R150 it was still early about 12:15pm. Went to the cabin, highly impressed all brand new immaculate cabin. Had a great fuk, Only thing didn't really discuss how long the $R150 was for, but either 40mins or an 1hr would have been what it was, but I knew before hand I was just having a quickie as planning Helpe that night, great BBBJ, smile or her face from moment I met her until I left, just great little bit of fun, in great nice friendly boite, I spoke with the Italian owner who was very friendly he basically told me it was new, and anything I liked or didn't like about his place, please please tell me. I couldn't fault it, I explained the place looked great, the cabins were great and the prices were good.
I think with popularity maybe prices might grow or entry fee anyways, ok the $R10 for a beer is not the cheapest but it was henekin importo so big deal a couple of Reias extra than a skol in balcony ($R6)
My total bill for a good 8\10 girl in cabin maybe around 40 mins I was in and 2 beers $R170, nice relaxed vibe and good effery put into the shows as well. Around 12-14 girls working all in 7 or 8\10.[/QUOTE]Apologies location of the Boite wasnt described as best as possible, Casablanca is located on the short road connecting Av Atlantica and NS Copa, Rua Duvivier..The Big Red\Black Hotel Porto Bay on the corner just down from Balcony bar.
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VIP RJ Agency?
Yes, yes, Americans are fat slobs. This is hardly news.
Anyway ...... has anyone had experience with the escort agencies VIP RJ?
[url]www.viprj.com.br[/url]
There seems to be some smoking hot women available from that company. Bet the price per hour is 350 Reais and then some.
I might have to check out this Boite Erotica when I get to Rio next week if I have time to spare. Never been too impressed with the clubs/shows in that area in the past but I'm sure there are hidden gems I haven't stumbled upon.
- DSK
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350 Reais Per Hour???
Have you lost you mind??!!
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[QUOTE=RonnyRon]Have you lost you mind? ! [/QUOTE] The girls from VIP rj are top end girls, most have modelling history in household name magazines and playboy for example, Their prices are around $R300-$R350 per hour, but not clock watchers in my experience. So to fuck a playboy pin up for $R350 is not loosing your mind IMO. I personally prefer to fuk the creme de la creme of Rio or bond girls if you like. I also enjoy mixing it up I also from time to time enjoy mixing it up in fle infested cabins and taking care of my seedier side. But in principle the oppertunity to spend an hour or two with a playboy pin up for a few hundred reias is not loosing your mind.
Last week I had Sandy from VIPRJ was $R300 plus $R30 taxi for 1hr 20 mins to my apart, very hot blondie girl, young and up for the fun, spoke decent English and a very professional service. Professional in way slightly mechanical (but not tooo much) She did know she was hot but after all she is a professional model, but the oppertunity to add them to my list was well woth it IMO.
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[QUOTE=Devilspinkick]Yes, yes, Americans are fat slobs. This is hardly news.
Anyway ...... has anyone had experience with the escort agencies VIP RJ?
[url]www.viprj.com.br[/url]
There seems to be some smoking hot women available from that company. Bet the price per hour is 350 Reais and then some.
- DSK[/QUOTE]
It's a bait and switch site. The girls in the photos are all internet models. They will not be the same women who show up at your door.
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[QUOTE=Jesuscola]It's a bait and switch site. The girls in the photos are all internet models. They will not be the same women who show up at your door.[/QUOTE]Yes in agreement theres a lot of bait and switch, in agreement a lot of these photos are different girls on some sites. But not all and not all girls are going to look the same in flesh as photos even if it is same girl, photos are un-natural and taken in the best light. But on the same note, I have found the girls can actually look better than their glammed\professionally done photos, For instance the VIPRJ site is very professional and must cost lot of money to create and maintain, if they had an overall reputation for being purley bait and switch I would expect much negative reviews but personally found this to be high end professional girls.
If some stinker turned up for $R400 after selecting her from a site like VIPRJ I would simply shut the door.
I would easy take pot luck from for instance from Karla Models but definetly not VIPRJ. If paying top dollar I expect top dollar and no bait and switch.
I have had bait and switch but was actually happy with the 'switch' I firstly said the the 'switch' I was happy but questioned the switch, she basically said she shares a flat with my chosen one and she was busy and she took the call, but she was saying they were very similar in looks and equally hot.
Karla Models I've found is young free lancers starting off, often new to the game and not experienced I would say generally 18-22yrds almost none speak English, but the smile and eyes and look of appriciation always improves your experience (in this and any other situation)
But you can't go wrong with Karla Models, price standard $R120 for 2 hrs. The have a renowned reputation (I believe) that they are not bait and switch as no real point they don't show faces but good body shots. Tits and pussesta
A tip I find useful for escorts if your non or small portuguese simply sms your address & first Name and 30 mins or 1hr? , Sim or nao? If its on she will reply asking room number, if hotel she will prob call your hotel room and simply confirm your in and the correct guy. Saves any lengthly conversations and confusions. All Escorts will want Taxi money but generally will be $R20 Zona Sul or $R30 or $R40 if coming from Centro or Tijuca etc, this is for both ways. Don't SMS a lot at once give 10mins or so for a reply, last thing you want a load of Escorts arriving (I did before, unfortunetly when second arrived they wasnt up for a dupla was already in 40 mins with first one to arrive, gave the second $5R and told her to wait at sucos bar on corner and would see her in 15-20mins, explained the confusion to her, I said she could take it out of my agreed 2 hrs (she was Karlas) she was happy with this and had no problem as she was going to get paid regardless (admittidly didn't look good I was already on the job, but fuk it, its what they do for a living! ) Finished with first one, had shower, went down met the second at sucos had an Acai, felt good finished off my remaining hour back in hotel! But generally they will definetly do some form of confirmation before coming.
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Marcop 12, Maybe You Are Right
[QUOTE=Marcop 12]The girls from VIP rj are top end girls, most have modelling history in household name magazines and playboy for example, Their prices are around $R300-$R350 per hour, but not clock watchers in my experience. So to fuck a playboy pin up for $R350 is not loosing your mind IMO. I personally prefer to fuk the creme de la creme of Rio or bond girls if you like. I also enjoy mixing it up I also from time to time enjoy mixing it up in fle infested cabins and taking care of my seedier side. But in principle the oppertunity to spend an hour or two with a playboy pin up for a few hundred reias is not loosing your mind.
Last week I had Sandy from VIPRJ was $R300 plus $R30 taxi for 1hr 20 mins to my apart, very hot blondie girl, young and up for the fun, spoke decent English and a very professional service. Professional in way slightly mechanical (but not tooo much) She did know she was hot but after all she is a professional model, but the oppertunity to add them to my list was well woth it IMO.[/QUOTE]
I think I will take my chances and hang out in the mud with Sperto. The girl he posted in the link below is outstanding:
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=112672[/url]
Check out this one, if you love the bunda!
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=112674[/url]
R$20-40, I am sold!
RR
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Can anyone give me a location to V.M.
Fellow mongers, I am requesting some advice. I was wondering if anyone can give me directions, locations to Vila memosa and to the termas in Centro? I will be in Brazil for 22 days and I promise to post many pictures and give a detailed reports of my experience. I will also be going to the usual Help, Balcony and to the termas: Luomos, 4x4 etc. Again, I promise to take lots of pictures and let you know the low down. Please help me brake my usual pattern of hanging in copacabana.
Thanks,
Shoesky
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If Karla models is 120 reals for 2 hours, how much does the agency get out of that. if its half, that doesnt leave much for the girls. they cant be that attractive, if they are banging for 60 reals. the bottom line on bait and switch is as long as the girl is as hot as the one you asked for than its ok.
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[QUOTE=Brazilman]Since, we are on the subject of obesity, why are black women so obese. I walk around and its amazing how little they care about how they look. The worst part is they have a nasty attitude and horrible personality. Usually, ugly women would try to make up for it by having a good personality. Not black women. Their personalities match their looks. Can any black men on the board explain this to us. I always see black guys hitting on white women at the clubs. Do you find white girls more attractive or is that black women are now so unattractive. For every michelle obama, there are 10 missy elliots.[/QUOTE]I can't think of any pretty white female celebrity I think is attractive. Let's try, for every Hillary Clinton there are 10 Roseann "Rosie" O'Donnells. So Brazilman, do you only hit on the fat ulgy Blackwomen with attitudes?
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VIP try-out.
The garotas of Karla Models are usually good in the cama, but generally average in the looks department. If the women of VIP RJ look anything like the ones on their website I will gladly pay R$350 for the experience. Might even try to arrange a saruba (ie., menage a trois). You only live once.
I often get so caught up with touring the Termas that I don't get the chance to do any "outcall" ..... we'll see. Can't wait to visit L'uomo again. Left some opportunities on the table last time I was there.
- DSK
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[QUOTE=Balluba]Sperto; here you can learn how to sound like the real pig you are.[/QUOTE]
Thank you, I loved the pictures!
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[QUOTE=RonnyRon]The girl he posted in the link below is outstanding:
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=112672[/url]
Check out this one, if you love the bunda!
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=112674[/url]
RR[/QUOTE]
RR, some directions on how to find these two girls:
* The first girl I remember very well. Gisela. She works on R Buenos Aires 85, the 5:th floor, the top floor. I came to BA around 10 AM, very early. I couldn't find anyone that really interested me. I was chatting with Bom Bom on the 2:nd floor. Suddenly Gisela passed by in the windling stairs, arriving to work together with her buddies. I rushed up the narrow stairs so I would see where she went. She was gone! I don't give up easily so I decided to do a search on the 5:th floor which had not opened yet.
I let myself in and went to the changing rooms. I entered and found all the ladies changing clothes. They were surprised and happy to have a visitor in the back area. :) Gisela was taking a shower. I told her she didn't need to dress as I wanted a session right away. She was delighted to have business even before they officially opened.
First customer, fresh girl (25 years) and even clean sheets in the cabin. R$ 20/20 minutes.
* The second girl I met at VM, Jaqueline. I had just done some CD-shopping at Feira de Sao Cristovao and decided to take a walk down to VM to see how the talents looked at 2 PM. It's very early to go to VM, but I needed to be back home before my ordinary GF finished her work.
There is always some nice girls at VM. Sometimes it takes 3 minutes to find one and sometimes it takes 1 hour. Finally I met Jaqueline in the quiosque watching TV with her friend.
Her casa is quite easy to find. The U-alley. Right entrance. First casa on the left side (with outdoor tables). Jaqueline is excellent. 23 years, big smile, great session, completa, rock-hard round ass but small soft tits (btw her buceta is pierced). R$ 26.
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[QUOTE=Brazilman]If Karla models is 120 reals for 2 hours, how much does the agency get out of that. if its half, that doesnt leave much for the girls. they cant be that attractive, if they are banging for 60 reals. the bottom line on bait and switch is as long as the girl is as hot as the one you asked for than its ok.[/QUOTE]I think that these girls supplement their rate by the "Taxi" money. Most of them take the bus to their destination and pocket the taxi money, so they try to maximize this, saying they live in Tijuca or some place with a hefty taxi ride.
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Thank You Sperto!
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[QUOTE=Sangue Bon]I think that these girls supplement their rate by the "Taxi" money. Most of them take the bus to their destination and pocket the taxi money, so they try to maximize this, saying they live in Tijuca or some place with a hefty taxi ride.[/QUOTE]I think the first ten programs each week go to the house to cover advertising costs after that they get 50pct of each program.
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Beach action
Anyone in Rio will notice that the last few days there has been very little beach action. Big waves have closed most off the beach down. The water even went onto the road a little bit out the front off Othon Palace.
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They don't get paid for the first 10 PER WEEK! Are you kidding me. Sounds like slavery to me. How many guys are they doing a week if they eat the first 10. I hate to see people get exploited like that. Why don't they just work at the termas or help at a discount. As for the obese black women comment. I guess what I was trying to say is most obese black women have a nasty attitude compared to obese white women. I have met many more fat white girls, who had great personalities, and thought, if she only lost weight, she would be so cool to go out with. I rarely think that with fat black women. They seem to go out of their way to be rude and want to blame men for their obesity. Am I wrong here. That seems to be my experience. It seems that black men feel the same way, since they go after white women alot now. I don't think there are enough fit black women to go around.
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Will the Balcony become the poor mans help when they close. I never thought balcony was any good, but I'm thinking hot help girls will start going there instead. Where else are they going to go. I am used to going to help after the termas close. If you can't close a terma girl after work, where do I go. Anyone have any ideas. I don't like the clip joints like Barbarella.
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[QUOTE=Brazilman]If Karla models is 120 reals for 2 hours, how much does the agency get out of that. if its half, that doesnt leave much for the girls. they cant be that attractive, if they are banging for 60 reals. the bottom line on bait and switch is as long as the girl is as hot as the one you asked for than its ok.[/QUOTE]
If I remember correctly, the girls have to pay the "House" in order to live and work there. For those that don't know most of the girls live on site during the week. I can't recall what the amount was, it might have been between 200 and 400 reais. So before the girl the girls start to earn they need to make their minimum.
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[QUOTE=Flexinbk]If I remember correctly, the girls have to pay the "House" in order to live and work there. For those that don't know most of the girls live on site during the week. I can't recall what the amount was, it might have been between 200 and 400 reais. So before the girl the girls start to earn they need to make their minimum.[/QUOTE]
Damn!! Is that right?!! No wonder there is always such a high turnover at KM!!
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[QUOTE=Sangue Bon]I think that these girls supplement their rate by the "Taxi" money. Most of them take the bus to their destination and pocket the taxi money, so they try to maximize this, saying they live in Tijuca or some place with a hefty taxi ride.[/QUOTE]
Don't know how true that is, on the last day of one of my trips, just a few hours before I needed to leave for the airport, I called KM for company , after about an 1.5 hours. I tell her I'm leaving for the states and she's gotta go. She responds by offering the services of her Taxi guy to take me to the airport.
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[QUOTE=Brazilman] As for the obese black women comment. I guess what I was trying to say is most obese black women have a nasty attitude compared to obese white women. I have met many more fat white girls, who had great personalities, and thought, if she only lost weight, she would be so cool to go out with. I rarely think that with fat black women. They seem to go out of their way to be rude and want to blame men for their obesity. Am I wrong here. That seems to be my experience. It seems that black men feel the same way, since they go after white women alot now. I don't think there are enough fit black women to go around.[/QUOTE]
You sure don't know when to quit while you are ahead! LOL!
What is your thing with obese Black women? You seem almost obessed. Are there a large number of obese Black women where you work? Where you live? Do they hit on you? Are many Black men around you complaining to you about obese Black women?
I am assuming you are White. Is that correct? Are you American, European, or from South America? Should I assume you are Brazilian?
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Too Funny!!
[QUOTE=George90]You sure don't know when to quit while you are ahead! LOL!
What is your thing with obese Black women? You seem almost obessed. Are there a large number of obese Black women where you work? Where you live? Do they hit on you? Are many Black men around you complaining to you about obese Black women?
I am assuming you are White. Is that correct? Are you American, European, or from South America? Should I assume you are Brazilian?[/QUOTE]
Brazilman, please reply. I would love to know! OMG, I cannot stop laughing.
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April in Rio
i was fortunate enough to be back for my first rio trip for '09 and thought i'd share some of my thoughts regarding the locales and ladies that i experienced.
first off i did visit help! for a little nostalgia, although i've never been a fan. i was traveling with friends, however, who love that place. there was a good crowd on friday; and on sunday it was worse than dead (whatever that is). i thought the quality of gdps inside was about the same as it's been for the last 5 years. it d oes appear that it may actually be closing in mayaccording to the manager i spoke to there and the few i spoke with at ta. definitely would be the end of an epoch and it will be interesting to see how it will be replaced. which it no doubt will.
i did visit termas daily (i continue to love those places), although i was too lazy to go downtown; so my visits were to the tourista 4 (centaurus, l'uomo, monte carlo and solarium).
i will make this disclaimer. i am a long time fan of centaurus (often not a popular position here.) i will also acknowledge that i do squander money both stateside and internationally so my view, neither right nor wrong; just differentthan those of some others here.
that said, i did make it to centaurus several times this trip, and found the talent level there to be outstanding. i was there with 5 guys and there were plenty of 8's and 9's for all of us. in my semi-humble opinion the differnce between c and the other 3 woulb be the difference between an average looks of 8 vs a 6 or 61/2 at the other. for me the additional $40-45 that centaurus costs more than the others (s, mc, l'you) is worth the higher quality. that said clearly there are better bargains to be had as you move towards downtown. 2 of my 3 sessions there were outstanding and the 3rd was only average (my fault for not doing my due diligence). as has been my experience there it was not necessary to pay in advance (just tell them that you want to pay depois), and all that any of us paid was r$400 and not the 420 that i've seen quoted here recently. not sure if my friend and i were given the local rate or not.
i thought that l'uomo was good and had an exceptional session there with a decent looking 24y/o.
sunday at solarium started very slowly. we were going to leave but happily we hung in there until the 6pm shift arrived. it started hopping with the arrival of several super fine loiras who i hadn't seen there before. exceptional session.
monte carlo was the best i've seen it in years. quite a few transferrees from l'uomo. very nice session with a new morena.
one night on a whim went over to barbarella for the first time in probably 5 years. lots of eye candy with some women who truly hav e a bizarrely inflated view of their value. one 5'11" gorgeous model who claims she works as a model in the middle east asked my friend for 500 reals per hour for a minimum of 3 hours. i overheard this and started to laugh uncontrollably. (she didn't seem to appreciate this). needless to say no deal was made. most girls there were starting at 500 per hour but negotiable. i did take out a pretty hot baihiana who happily accepted the 300 i gave her for several hours. total cost 60 for entry including 2 domestic drinks, 60 for the take out, so for a total of 420. a bit high but i'm alway looking for different venues with high caliber gdps.
no doubt my highlight was the two and a half days i spents with a centaurus girl outside of the terma and it included her getting us invited to a party that was the celebration of the ending of a popular novel next door to porcao rio. always a weird experience, however, getting the evil eye from the young brasilieros seeing this young beauty draped all over and old gringo like me.
another great trip and am am already scheming about my next trip.
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[QUOTE=Brazilman]They don't get paid for the first 10 PER WEEK! Are you kidding me. Sounds like slavery to me. How many guys are they doing a week if they eat the first 10. I hate to see people get exploited like that. Why don't they just work at the termas or help at a discount. As for the obese black women comment. I guess what I was trying to say is most obese black women have a nasty attitude compared to obese white women. I have met many more fat white girls, who had great personalities, and thought, if she only lost weight, she would be so cool to go out with. I rarely think that with fat black women. They seem to go out of their way to be rude and want to blame men for their obesity. Am I wrong here. That seems to be my experience. It seems that black men feel the same way, since they go after white women alot now. I don't think there are enough fit black women to go around.[/QUOTE]As a Blackman I go after Blackwoman a lot. My friends notice that as my modis operandi. But I am tring to mix it up. He big ass half Brazilian and Italian garota at 502 that I posted, she has a big ass and she came to me and said "culo". What was I suppose to do. Before she did that I was eye balling the Black and Brown garotas. So, all Black guys can't vouch for your "Obese Black woman attitude with Brazilman" study.
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I'm talking about the black women in america. Not brazil. Most of the women in Brazil are friendly. Yes. Black men complain about black women in America. I had a discussion with a black guy who said he hates black women and only dates latin girls. He was telling me alot of black guys in his neighborhood are dating white and latin girls. I just find unattractive black women to be very rude. More so then unattractive white chicks. Just my experience. I can only comment on what I observe. Lets do a experiment and see where everyone here stands. Jessica alba or naomi campbell? Sarah palin or Michelle obama. Sofia vergara or tyra banks in prime. If you don't know who sofia is. Google her and look at her pictures. HOT! Beyonce or hayden panettierre. Thats it for now. My picks are alba palin vergara and hayden. Of those 4 I am taking Sofia Vergara.
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rough deal
[QUOTE=Brazilman]They don't get paid for the first 10 PER WEEK! Are you kidding me. Sounds like slavery to me. How many guys are they doing a week if they eat the first 10. I hate to see people get exploited like that. Why don't they just work at the termas or help at a discount. .[/QUOTE]
At the termas they get charged fixed sum daily to be there, they need to purchase their bikini uniforms once a month, they get fined heavily if they are late or dont turn up, they have to pay for their drinks at monger prices (ever saw them sharing a red bull between several girls when one of them gets a customer to buy her a drink?) and of course they divide the price of the programa between the casa and the girl. when you take all this into account we are talking about a lot of "free" programas too
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Names would help
[QUOTE=Yankee7]
I did visit Termas daily (I continue to love those places), although I was too lazy to go downtown; so my visits were to the tourista 4 (Centaurus, L'Uomo, Monte Carlo and Solarium).
2 of my 3 sessions there were outstanding and the 3rd was only average (my fault for not doing my due diligence).
I thought that L'uomo was good and had an exceptional session there with a decent looking 24y/o.
Exceptional session.
Monte Carlo was the best I've seen it in years. Quite a few transferrees from L'Uomo. Very nice session with a new morena.
No doubt my highlight was the two and a half days I spents with a Centaurus girl outside of the terma
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Can you name names please?
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Name names
I would if I could, but since I didn't jot them down at the time I remember the face and bodies rather than the name. For the particularly meorable ones I remember their real namerather than their stage name and to keep track of two names no longer is workable for me or is it particularly helpful as I think it's the chemistry that truly makes the session work.
Although I didn't do her this trip, every body else that I kew did Bia II at L'Uomo for one of Rio's wildest rides and sloppiest BJ's. I also was in lust with Giovanna at Centaurus.
For me, besides the visual stimulation, the great thin about the Termas is that you have plenty of time to see if there's actually a connection before heading to the cabine/suite.
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[QUOTE=Brazilman]Will the Balcony become the poor mans help when they close. I never thought balcony was any good, but I'm thinking hot help girls will start going there instead. Where else are they going to go. I am used to going to help after the termas close. If you can't close a terma girl after work, where do I go. Anyone have any ideas. I don't like the clip joints like Barbarella.[/QUOTE]
I think so too, if Help closes you will probably see places like Mabs, Balcony and Meia Pataca packed with good quality girls that would have gone to Help and TA.
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[QUOTE=July Gan]At the termas they get charged fixed sum daily to be there, they need to purchase their bikini uniforms once a month, they get fined heavily if they are late or dont turn up, they have to pay for their drinks at monger prices (ever saw them sharing a red bull between several girls when one of them gets a customer to buy her a drink?) and of course they divide the price of the programa between the casa and the girl. when you take all this into account we are talking about a lot of "free" programas too[/QUOTE]
Really?!! I was under the impression that the terma girls get paid weekly to be in the casa every day. You are saying that the terma girls have to pay the house?
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I will set the record strait. One of my best friends married a Terma Centro girl. They live here in the area now. I was with him when he meet her. So I hang out with them both ever so often. I asked her point blank about the pay. They get free food and drink while on duty. It is encourged by the owners to have the customer buy drinks and meals and such. Also they get paid in cash after every shift. If they are late a fine of one session is charged to her account. If she misses a day. She is fined for 3 sessions. The uniforms are free. The hair dressers and make up people or free. But she only worked at this one Terma. Other Termas have different rules she said.
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[QUOTE=Bravo]Really?!! I was under the impression that the terma girls get paid weekly to be in the casa every day. You are saying that the terma girls have to pay the house?[/QUOTE]
Yes. I know this is the case for a fact at L Uomo and I suppose it is the same elsewhere although the payment method may vary from place to place. At L Uomo on payday (every thursday I think) they deduct the uniform, drinks, daily fees, fines etc etc from the money due to the girls for the programas made.
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[QUOTE=Sangue Bon]I think so too, if Help closes you will probably see places like Mabs, Balcony and Meia Pataca packed with good quality girls that would have gone to Help and TA.[/QUOTE]
Could really be a turf war if Help and TA girls invade Balcony.
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[QUOTE=July Gan]Yes. I know this is the case for a fact at L Uomo and I suppose it is the same elsewhere although the payment method may vary from place to place. At L Uomo on payday (every thursday I think) they deduct the uniform, drinks, daily fees, fines etc etc from the money due to the girls for the programas made.[/QUOTE]
After reading FLRoadWarrior response, I guess the rules are different at every terma. (I thought it sounded weird that a girl would have to pay to work in a terma)
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[QUOTE=Oakwood99]Could really be a turf war if Help and TA girls invade Balcony.[/QUOTE]
You better believe it. I gurantee that there will be alot of fist fights in Balcony because of the new girls "trespassing" on their turf.
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[QUOTE=Brazilman]I'm talking about the black women in america. Not brazil. Most of the women in Brazil are friendly. Yes. Black men complain about black women in America. I had a discussion with a black guy who said he hates black women and only dates latin girls. He was telling me alot of black guys in his neighborhood are dating white and latin girls. I just find unattractive black women to be very rude. More so then unattractive white chicks. Just my experience. I can only comment on what I observe. Lets do a experiment and see where everyone here stands. Jessica alba or naomi campbell? Sarah palin or Michelle obama. Sofia vergara or tyra banks in prime. If you don't know who sofia is. Google her and look at her pictures. HOT! Beyonce or hayden panettierre. Thats it for now. My picks are alba palin vergara and hayden. Of those 4 I am taking Sofia Vergara.[/QUOTE]You have bad taste. In your picks I would expect Dolly Pardon and Britney Spears. If you had better taste you would said Naomi Campbell, Michelle Obama, Tyra Banks (current or prime), and Beyonce. You pay too much attention to D type women instead of the A+ type.
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[quote=yankee7]i was fortunate enough to be back for my first rio trip for '09 and thought i'd share some of my thoughts regarding the locales and ladies that i experienced.
first off i did visit help! for a little nostalgia, although i've never been a fan. i was traveling with friends, however, who love that place. there was a good crowd on friday; and on sunday it was worse than dead (whatever that is). i thought the quality of gdps inside was about the same as it's been for the last 5 years. it d oes appear that it may actually be closing in mayaccording to the manager i spoke to there and the few i spoke with at ta. definitely would be the end of an epoch and it will be interesting to see how it will be replaced. which it no doubt will.
i did visit termas daily (i continue to love those places), although i was too lazy to go downtown; so my visits were to the tourista 4 (centaurus, l'uomo, monte carlo and solarium).
i will make this disclaimer. i am a long time fan of centaurus (often not a popular position here.) i will also acknowledge that i do squander money both stateside and internationally so my view, neither right nor wrong; just differentthan those of some others here.
that said, i did make it to centaurus several times this trip, and found the talent level there to be outstanding. i was there with 5 guys and there were plenty of 8's and 9's for all of us. in my semi-humble opinion the differnce between c and the other 3 woulb be the difference between an average looks of 8 vs a 6 or 61/2 at the other. for me the additional $40-45 that centaurus costs more than the others (s, mc, l'you) is worth the higher quality. that said clearly there are better bargains to be had as you move towards downtown. 2 of my 3 sessions there were outstanding and the 3rd was only average (my fault for not doing my due diligence). as has been my experience there it was not necessary to pay in advance (just tell them that you want to pay depois), and all that any of us paid was r$400 and not the 420 that i've seen quoted here recently. not sure if my friend and i were given the local rate or not.
i thought that l'uomo was good and had an exceptional session there with a decent looking 24y/o.
sunday at solarium started very slowly. we were going to leave but happily we hung in there until the 6pm shift arrived. it started hopping with the arrival of several super fine loiras who i hadn't seen there before. exceptional session.
monte carlo was the best i've seen it in years. quite a few transferrees from l'uomo. very nice session with a new morena.
one night on a whim went over to barbarella for the first time in probably 5 years. lots of eye candy with some women who truly hav e a bizarrely inflated view of their value. one 5'11" gorgeous model who claims she works as a model in the middle east asked my friend for 500 reals per hour for a minimum of 3 hours. i overheard this and started to laugh uncontrollably. (she didn't seem to appreciate this). needless to say no deal was made. most girls there were starting at 500 per hour but negotiable. i did take out a pretty hot baihiana who happily accepted the 300 i gave her for several hours. total cost 60 for entry including 2 domestic drinks, 60 for the take out, so for a total of 420. a bit high but i'm alway looking for different venues with high caliber gdps.
no doubt my highlight was the two and a half days i spents with a centaurus girl outside of the terma and it included her getting us invited to a party that was the celebration of the ending of a popular novel next door to porcao rio. always a weird experience, however, getting the evil eye from the young brasilieros seeing this young beauty draped all over and old gringo like me.
another great trip and am am already scheming about my next trip.
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i seriously don't know who to believe any more about the state of the tourista 4 termas .....
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Terma Girls
Terma girls get burnout too. Imagine if you at your favorite dessert everyday. Wouldn't you get tired of it too? Yes, terma girls who are not on drugs but need the money for other reasons, use their body and love for sex to satisfy their need for money. But over a period of time, they dread going to work like anyone elese. Hell, even a rock star gets tired of being a rock star.
Here's my point. If one is lucky enough to get a nice terma girl to come to your apartment, would it be worth your wild to offer to pay her terma fine so you can get her for the whole day. Now, there is no standard terma fine, but even if you pay half, would it be worth to get a terma girl to be your GFE.
This applies to a terma girl who has her own money, no kids, and no financial hardhsips like a dying relative.
For the sake of discussion from expert RIO mongers only.
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[QUOTE=Jamaicanceo]. My buddy found sone fun in a dark corner, and I end ed up sessioning with Andrea. Man, she had an ass like a Clydesdale horse in a Budweiser commercial. And she was perfect because I was determined not to go for the dark skinned big ass garotas.[/QUOTE]
I'm glad you had a great time. I must admit that I find your analogy somewhat disturbing.................um, keep up the good work!!
ryjer
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Thinking too much..........
[QUOTE=Brazilman]If Karla models is 120 reals for 2 hours, how much does the agency get out of that. if its half, that doesnt leave much for the girls. they cant be that attractive, if they are banging for 60 reals. the bottom line on bait and switch is as long as the girl is as hot as the one you asked for than its ok.[/QUOTE]
You know, I tried to ask myself similar questions, and kinda smiled when I realized that I had just had 3 beers, and banged 2 girls in the period of an hour. The total damage, $29. When wondering how much this girls made, I figured it was more the companionship I provided them. Hell, they should have paid me......................lol
ryjer
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[quote=ryjerrob]i'm glad you had a great time. i must admit that i find your analogy somewhat disturbing. um, keep up the good work!
ryjer[/quote]andrea is half brazilian and italian, and is from paulista. she was very happy to please.
my terma analogy is from the thought that the helpee and copa girls are asking r$400 for 1 or 2 hours. over my last 2 visits to rio, i found the gdp prices getting ridiculously high and the terma girls more wanting to visit for fun and less money than the nonterma girls. it's as if the terma girls know they get theirs like a well paid independent girl, who wants to have fun.
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[QUOTE=FLRoadWarrior]I will set the record strait. One of my best friends married a Terma Centro girl. They live here in the area now. I was with him when he meet her. So I hang out with them both ever so often. I asked her point blank about the pay. They get free food and drink while on duty. It is encourged by the owners to have the customer buy drinks and meals and such. Also they get paid in cash after every shift. If they are late a fine of one session is charged to her account. If she misses a day. She is fined for 3 sessions. The uniforms are free. The hair dressers and make up people or free. But she only worked at this one Terma. Other Termas have different rules she said.[/QUOTE]I asked a terma girl last night from Luomo, and she laughed when I mention I heard from somewhere that the free hairdresser and makeup people. She laughed and said they get nothing free. They pay for everything. The fines are for no show $150 weekdays and R$200 weekends.
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[quote=sangue bon]i think so too, if help closes you will probably see places like mabs, balcony and meia pataca packed with good quality girls that would have gone to help and ta.[/quote]where is mabs and balcony located. i've never been to either of those before, but i guess i need to add them to my list since helpee may be closing.
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Counter point
[QUOTE=Jamaicanceo]You have bad taste. In your picks I would expect Dolly Pardon and Britney Spears. If you had better taste you would said Naomi Campbell, Michelle Obama, Tyra Banks (current or prime), and Beyonce. You pay too much attention to D type women instead of the A+ type.[/QUOTE]
Damn Jamaicanceo, I was going to comment but now I have no need. "A" list says it all!!
Now let's get back to RIO women.
Lonzo
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Monte Carlo / Solarium
Can anyone confirm if both of these Termas are still owned by the same owner or ran by the same management? According to Bubba Guide a few years ago it was owned by the same owner but thought I had read elsewhere that it was no longer the same owner. Can anyone confirm this?
Thanks,
musze
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[QUOTE=Jamaicanceo]You have bad taste. In your picks I would expect Dolly Pardon and Britney Spears. If you had better taste you would said Naomi Campbell, Michelle Obama, Tyra Banks (current or prime), and Beyonce. You pay too much attention to D type women instead of the A+ type.[/QUOTE]Michelle Obama?? WTF??
Hence the phrase "Cada louco com sua mania" I suppose.
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[QUOTE=Ardgneas]Michelle Obama?? WTF??
Hence the phrase "Cada louco com sua mania" I suppose.[/QUOTE]Para trás para você amigo!
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Hello everyone.
First of all I would like to thank those people that have taken the time & trouble to make some great guides/posts/advice.
I will be in Rio in May for a few weeks and the information here has been great. Hopefully HELP will still be open
I've read so much about it.
I will post some reports myself after my visit ofcourse.
One question though. , do any of you exp mongers have any good tips on how to go about getting a GFE?
I realise ofcourse that if you hit it of with a lady it might end up being a GFE.
But this is after you go to a terma or HELP.
Are there women/sites that advertise with that specifically in mind?
Also, since things keep changing ofcourse in time, are there any " new" do's & don'ts that I should know about? (I have read most of the Rio thread)
Thx in advance & gl mongering.
Dragonlord
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Tiradentes
Does anyone know if BA 85 and U 22 will be open on the 21st?
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Sunday night
I am arriving this Sunday at 23:00.
Does anyone know whether any of the agencies are open on Sunday night? Termas?
Or is Help the only real place to find a garota?
Thanks F
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Nimms Mabs and Balcony are located on the other end of Copa by Leme. Look for lifeguard tower (posto) 2 (Help is located closer to posto 5) they are directly across the street on Atlantico from posto 2. Balcony is next to the park and Mabs is two blocks away at Prado jr.
Forest your only hope is Help/ TA. Although Luomos, MC and Solarium are open they will close at midnight, so you gotta pick a girl by about 11:20pm.
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DragonLord Welcome To ISG
[QUOTE=Dragonlordnl1971]Hello everyone.
First of all I would like to thank those people that have taken the time & trouble to make some great guides/posts/advice.
I will be in Rio in May for a few weeks and the information here has been great. Hopefully HELP will still be open
I've read so much about it.
I will post some reports myself after my visit ofcourse.
One question though. , do any of you exp mongers have any good tips on how to go about getting a GFE?
I realise ofcourse that if you hit it of with a lady it might end up being a GFE.
But this is after you go to a terma or HELP.
Are there women/sites that advertise with that specifically in mind?
Also, since things keep changing ofcourse in time, are there any " new" do's & don'ts that I should know about? (I have read most of the Rio thread)
Thx in advance & gl mongering.
Dragonlord[/QUOTE]
GFE or Girlfriend experience in Rio is more the rule rather than the exception. Not many wet fish in Rio. I believe in 10 years, I have only had 3. 2 were from the Balcony. I like the Balcony, but it can be hit and miss. Brasilian women are naturally affectionate, passionate and enjoy sex. They are interested in pleasing you. I suggest you not be concerned about it. Believe me you will understand a lot more once you get there. There’s tons of information about website for girls in the Escort section. For example: [url]http://www.hotside.com.br/[/url] is a good one. If the girl’s information states she is (simpatica) you know she is GFE, but again in my experience it is a moot point.
As far as DO's & DON'Ts. If you have read the forum you are covered.
RonnyRon
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[quote=ronnyron]gfe or girlfriend experience in rio is more the rule rather than the exception. not many wet fish in rio. i believe in 10 years, i have only had 3. 2 were from the balcony. i like the balcony, but it can be hit and miss. brasilian women are naturally affectionate, passionate and enjoy sex. they are interested in pleasing you. i suggest you not be concerned about it. believe me you will understand a lot more once you get there. there’s tons of information about website for girls in the escort section. for example: [url]http://www.hotside.com.br/[/url] is a good one. if the girl’s information states she is (simpatica) you know she is gfe, but again in my experience it is a moot point.
a far as do's & don'ts. if you have read the forum you are covered.
ronnyron[/quote]can i add, if a gdp quotes you more than r$200 for less than all night sex at your apartment, just walk away and look for a better deal. better prices are out there. last month at balcony a sao paulo italian looking gdp wanted r$400 for 2 hours. then, i covered my wing man with white and black gdp duel. the dark one with cleoptra eye-liner and a nose stud, can't remember which side, quoted r$150.00. after i cum, she took a shower and began getting dressed. but she had a d- performance. i was glad to see her go. my wingman's apartment was one floor before me. she wanted to know te apartment, but i acted like i didn't know him. however, she was smart enough to ask my door man to call my friend's apartment. we met them at 10pm and were done by 12am. he gave his gdp a d- too.
i went to ta, and saw a morena that i saw at balcony that night and took her with after 2 hours. i was thinking about her when i was slamming the balcony bimbo. i missed her last december 2008. i took her for r$150.00 and she bbbj and fucked good until late that morning.
it was my first-time at balcony, and i think it's below meia pataca. the pickings were slim.
my atlantica fucks were mostly not as enjoyable as others. although, there is kay kay, who is a helpee and mp regular.
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[QUOTE=Forest]I am arriving this Sunday at 23:00.
Does anyone know whether any of the agencies are open on Sunday night? Termas?
Or is Help the only real place to find a garota?
Thanks F[/QUOTE]
Or Balcony and so on. Or the 24hr, all week, 365days including holidays, place. I think it's called Vila Mimosa ;) ;)
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A prostitute filed criminal charges against me
I wanted to write about something that is happening in my life due to my involvement with a prostitute I met in Rio de Janeiro. I know what happened to me initially, also happens to a lot of other men who travel to Brazil. It is what happened after I learned that I had been rolled, that is stunning.
This website Jackson has created is full of posts of men’s bravado about sexual exploits from around the globe, but very few men write about their attempts to form relationships with some of the girls they meet, and the results when these ‘relationships’ go bad. What is happening to my life because of my naïve belief a relationship with a prostitute was possible; is beyond belief. I wanted to share this with ISG in the hope that I can make some of you men think twice before you attempt to form a relationship with a prostitute.
I met this girl in Rio de Janeiro in Help Disco and was taken back by her beauty. But she was also charming, intelligent, soft spoken, and extremely well mannered. It did not take long for me to fall for her. I thought she was the perfect woman. I considered the fact that she was working as a prostitute nothing more than a circumstance in her life because of the lack of economic opportunities in Brazil.
To make a long story short; I spent the next 18 months wining and dining this woman. She talked about marriage, children, the whole nine yards. I flew her to a few different countries I was working in, paid her bills including her mortgage on her apartment, helped her build a house for her mother, silicon implants, and the list goes on, right up to $40,000 USD. Over the course of the 18 months, there were times I suspected something was amiss, but each time I talked to her about my concerns she always had an answer which seemed to satisfy me. I also thought she needed more time to adjust to a normal life. What I didn’t realize was……when she was not with me in another country, she was still ‘working’ in Brazil. I had been rolled for 18 months and didn’t even realize it. I’m a smart guy; high IQ, well spoken, have a job in management, and reasonably successful in my career. I thought I was way smart enough to spot a con if I ever met one. I could not have been more wrong!
After 18 months, I was getting ready to fly to Rio to spend my birthday with her. She told me she could not be with me because she had to take her sister to the interior of Minas Gerais to a hospital, and there would be no cell coverage, only e-mail. I was really disappointed as I wanted to spend my b-day with her. She sent me a message telling me she would be in Rio in about 2 weeks. On my b-day, I decided to track her down in Brazil and travel to whatever city she was in. I checked the IP address of her e-mail to learn what Brazilian city she was in, only to learn she was really in Italy. I later learned she went there for a few weeks to check the place out. A few months later she traveled there to work as a prostitute on a one year contract; all this according to her mother.
I was absolutely stunned. Then it turned to absolute fury. No one had ever taken money from me like that before. I posted some information on the internet to warn others about this woman. I wrote that she is a prostitute, a thief and a pathological liar; all truths.
Now, this woman has filed charges against me in Brazil alleging slander. It’s a false charge, but it will cost me between $10,000 and $20,000 to defend myself against her accusations. I have more than enough proof to back up my statements against her, but it may cost me $20,000 to clear my name. Slander is a criminal offense in Brazil, carrying a sentence of 6 to 24 months and civil damages are possible as well. I find it incredibly arrogant that this prostitute rolled me for $40,000 USD and is now trying to cause more damage to my life because I tried to inform the public about her. I have serious doubts as to whether I would receive a fair trial in Brazil.
Guys, in general, I don’t think these working girls can possibly lead anything close to a normal life. Forming a relationship with a prostitute is next to impossible. After my experience with this girl, I firmly believe the vast majority of these girls are damaged physiologically to the point they have great difficulty leading normal lives. After I discovered the truth that she had only been using me for money, I talked to 3 or 4 other working girls in Rio, and ALL of them did not see anything wrong with what she did. To them, scamming men is a normal way to make a living.
I frequented prostitutes before, but this experience has made me give up that bad habit. I traveled to Brazil on average once every 4 months. I quit fooling around with prostitutes over a year ago, but continued to travel to Brazil as I really loved the country. I had planned to retire there, but with this legal development, I may never be able to travel there again. The Department of State has told me (off the record) that extradition is highly unlikely in this case, but I don’t find much comfort in that.
Guys, don’t think with the little head when you meet these girls. There are too many girls in Brazil who have you, and many other men as ‘boyfriends.’ When I told one PI in Brazil that I met her in Help Disco, he said “man, I get a lot of work out of that place”. It’s a quote I will never forget. It made me realize I was not alone in my foolish attempt to believe a relationship is possible with one of these girls. If she really cares about you, wait it out until you learn a great deal about her before you start spending large wads of cash. And with Brazilians, you’re not ‘in’ until you meet her family. I talked to this girl’s family, but never met them in person.
It is not worth the attempt to build a relationship with these working girls. If you must frequent prostitutes, use them and dump them. Do not get involved with them personally; it is not worth the risk. My Portuguese is pretty good and I talk to the girls all the time about what happened to me. All of them told me it is quite common for girls to have several boyfriends who send them money. Be careful with your money and your hearts guys. If money is a requirement to maintain the ‘relationship’, then more than likely you are still her client.
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All women are not just the same
[QUOTE=Dumb N Dumber]I wanted to write about something that is happening in my life due to my involvement with a prostitute I met in Rio de Janeiro. I know what happened to me initially, also happens to a lot of other men who travel to Brazil. It is what happened after I learned that I had been rolled, that is stunning.
This website Jackson has created is full of posts of men’s bravado about sexual exploits from around the globe, but very few men write about their attempts to form relationships with some of the girls they meet, and the results when these ‘relationships’ go bad. What is happening to my life because of my naïve belief a relationship with a prostitute was possible; is beyond belief. I wanted to share this with ISG in the hope that I can make some of you men think twice before you attempt to form a relationship with a prostitute.
I met this girl in Rio de Janeiro in Help Disco and was taken back by her beauty. But she was also charming, intelligent, soft spoken, and extremely well mannered. It did not take long for me to fall for her. I thought she was the perfect woman. I considered the fact that she was working as a prostitute nothing more than a circumstance in her life because of the lack of economic opportunities in Brazil.
To make a long story short; I spent the next 18 months wining and dining this woman. She talked about marriage, children, the whole nine yards. I flew her to a few different countries I was working in, paid her bills including her mortgage on her apartment, helped her build a house for her mother, silicon implants, and the list goes on, right up to $40, 000 USD. Over the course of the 18 months, there were times I suspected something was amiss, but each time I talked to her about my concerns she always had an answer which seemed to satisfy me. I also thought she needed more time to adjust to a normal life. What I didn’t realize was. When she was not with me in another country, she was still ‘working’ in Brazil. I had been rolled for 18 months and didn’t even realize it. I’m a smart guy; high IQ, well spoken, have a job in management, and reasonably successful in my career. I thought I was way smart enough to spot a con if I ever met one. I could not have been more wrong!
After 18 months, I was getting ready to fly to Rio to spend my birthday with her. She told me she could not be with me because she had to take her sister to the interior of Minas Gerais to a hospital, and there would be no cell coverage, only e-mail. I was really disappointed as I wanted to spend my b-day with her. She sent me a message telling me she would be in Rio in about 2 weeks. On my b-day, I decided to track her down in Brazil and travel to whatever city she was in. I checked the IP address of her e-mail to learn what Brazilian city she was in, only to learn she was really in Italy. I later learned she went there for a few weeks to check the place out. A few months later she traveled there to work as a prostitute on a one year contract; all this according to her mother.
I was absolutely stunned. Then it turned to absolute fury. No one had ever taken money from me like that before. I posted some information on the internet to warn others about this woman. I wrote that she is a prostitute, a thief and a pathological liar; all truths.
Now, this woman has filed charges against me in Brazil alleging slander. It’s a false charge, but it will cost me between $10, 000 and $20, 000 to defend myself against her accusations. I have more than enough proof to back up my statements against her, but it may cost me $20, 000 to clear my name. Slander is a criminal offense in Brazil, carrying a sentence of 6 to 24 months and civil damages are possible as well. I find it incredibly arrogant that this prostitute rolled me for $40, 000 USD and is now trying to cause more damage to my life because I tried to inform the public about her. I have serious doubts as to whether I would receive a fair trial in Brazil.
Guys, in general, I don’t think these working girls can possibly lead anything close to a normal life. Forming a relationship with a prostitute is next to impossible. After my experience with this girl, I firmly believe the vast majority of these girls are damaged physiologically to the point they have great difficulty leading normal lives. After I discovered the truth that she had only been using me for money, I talked to 3 or 4 other working girls in Rio, and ALL of them did not see anything wrong with what she did. To them, scamming men is a normal way to make a living.
I frequented prostitutes before, but this experience has made me give up that bad habit. I traveled to Brazil on average once every 4 months. I quit fooling around with prostitutes over a year ago, but continued to travel to Brazil as I really loved the country. I had planned to retire there, but with this legal development, I may never be able to travel there again. The Department of State has told me (off the record) that extradition is highly unlikely in this case, but I don’t find much comfort in that.
Guys, don’t think with the little head when you meet these girls. There are too many girls in Brazil who have you, and many other men as ‘boyfriends. ’ When I told one PI in Brazil that I met her in Help Disco, he said "man, I get a lot of work out of that place". It’s a quote I will never forget. It made me realize I was not alone in my foolish attempt to believe a relationship is possible with one of these girls. If she really cares about you, wait it out until you learn a great deal about her before you start spending large wads of cash. And with Brazilians, you’re not ‘in’ until you meet her family. I talked to this girl’s family, but never met them in person.
It is not worth the attempt to build a relationship with these working girls. If you must frequent prostitutes, use them and dump them. Do not get involved with them personally; it is not worth the risk. My Portuguese is pretty good and I talk to the girls all the time about what happened to me. All of them told me it is quite common for girls to have several boyfriends who send them money. Be careful with your money and your hearts guys. If money is a requirement to maintain the ‘relationship’, then more than likely you are still her client. [/QUOTE]Sorry but that's just one experience. Don't try to make a general rule out of your personal experience. I'm sure it hurts. I'm sure she didn't treat you fair. And have all my sympathy but.
Saying that all women are just the same, is not very different from saying that all GDP are are just the same. They are not. They are different. Believe me. I also have had my experiences.
In the end love, money and sex are very complex issues. There are no rules.
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This forum is filled with stories of guys getting taken by GDPs . Just curious, does anyone know the statutes of limitations in brazil?..Can u get arrested at immigration if some random gdp alleged slander or worse, battery?
By the same token, what if a GDP went to the police and claimed u hit her? Unbeknownst to u you, u try to reenter brazil, would u get arrested just on her word?
instead of wasting 20k, if the statutes of limitation is say three or four years..couldnt u just wait it out?. go visit colombia, argentina and other countries...then get back when the statutes of limitation runs out.
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Dumb N Dumber
Thanks for your honesty in reporting your experience. I too made the mistake of getting into a relationship with a GDP a few years ago, a mistake I will never make again. I didn't spend nearly as much money as you did, but it came to several $K. I paid for silicone implants and took her out to the best places every time I came to Rio. The end result was astonishingly similar to yours. After a couple of months of not being able to locate her, she let me know she was in Italy working as a prostitute. I know a few other guys who contribute to this forum have had similar experiences; some have sent me PMs describing their experiences.
So, guys, if you haven't figured it out already, the cardinal rule is this: once a prostitute, always a prostitute. If you find a GDP who charms you, by all means have a good time with her and enjoy yourself while you can. But never, ever trust her, and never give her your heart,
BTW, you don't mention your nationality, but if you are American, Brazil does not have an extradition treaty with the US, so you don't need to worry about the criminal charges. Just don't go to Brazil. There are plenty of other places to monger that are just as good--well, almost. I don't know for sure, but I doubt that Brazil has extradition treaties with anyone. Brazil is famous, or notorious, for being a haven for people fleeing from the law, knowing they can't be touched by the law in their own country. Ronnie Biggs, the British train robber, lived in Brazil for decades. This is a two-edged sword for Brazil, because it means that they can't retrieve people from other countries either.
Bottom line: we all learn from our mistakes, which at times can be very costly. C'est la vie!
Lorenzo
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Your screen name says it all, but.....
[QUOTE=Dumb N Dumber]I wanted to write about something that is happening in my life due to my involvement with a prostitute I met in Rio de Janeiro. I know what happened to me initially, also happens to a lot of other men who travel to Brazil. It is what happened after I learned that I had been rolled, that is stunning.
This website Jackson has created is full of posts of men’s bravado about sexual exploits from around the globe, but very few men write about their attempts to form relationships with some of the girls they meet, and the results when these ‘relationships’ go bad. What is happening to my life because of my naïve belief a relationship with a prostitute was possible; is beyond belief. I wanted to share this with ISG in the hope that I can make some of you men think twice before you attempt to form a relationship with a prostitute.
I met this girl in Rio de Janeiro in Help Disco and was taken back by her beauty. But she was also charming, intelligent, soft spoken, and extremely well mannered. It did not take long for me to fall for her. I thought she was the perfect woman. I considered the fact that she was working as a prostitute nothing more than a circumstance in her life because of the lack of economic opportunities in Brazil.
To make a long story short; I spent the next 18 months wining and dining this woman. She talked about marriage, children, the whole nine yards. I flew her to a few different countries I was working in, paid her bills including her mortgage on her apartment, helped her build a house for her mother, silicon implants, and the list goes on, right up to $40,000 USD. Over the course of the 18 months, there were times I suspected something was amiss, but each time I talked to her about my concerns she always had an answer which seemed to satisfy me. I also thought she needed more time to adjust to a normal life. What I didn’t realize was……when she was not with me in another country, she was still ‘working’ in Brazil. I had been rolled for 18 months and didn’t even realize it. I’m a smart guy; high IQ, well spoken, have a job in management, and reasonably successful in my career. I thought I was way smart enough to spot a con if I ever met one. I could not have been more wrong!
After 18 months, I was getting ready to fly to Rio to spend my birthday with her. She told me she could not be with me because she had to take her sister to the interior of Minas Gerais to a hospital, and there would be no cell coverage, only e-mail. I was really disappointed as I wanted to spend my b-day with her. She sent me a message telling me she would be in Rio in about 2 weeks. On my b-day, I decided to track her down in Brazil and travel to whatever city she was in. I checked the IP address of her e-mail to learn what Brazilian city she was in, only to learn she was really in Italy. I later learned she went there for a few weeks to check the place out. A few months later she traveled there to work as a prostitute on a one year contract; all this according to her mother.
I was absolutely stunned. Then it turned to absolute fury. No one had ever taken money from me like that before. I posted some information on the internet to warn others about this woman. I wrote that she is a prostitute, a thief and a pathological liar; all truths.
Now, this woman has filed charges against me in Brazil alleging slander. It’s a false charge, but it will cost me between $10,000 and $20,000 to defend myself against her accusations. I have more than enough proof to back up my statements against her, but it may cost me $20,000 to clear my name. Slander is a criminal offense in Brazil, carrying a sentence of 6 to 24 months and civil damages are possible as well. I find it incredibly arrogant that this prostitute rolled me for $40,000 USD and is now trying to cause more damage to my life because I tried to inform the public about her. I have serious doubts as to whether I would receive a fair trial in Brazil.
Guys, in general, I don’t think these working girls can possibly lead anything close to a normal life. Forming a relationship with a prostitute is next to impossible. After my experience with this girl, I firmly believe the vast majority of these girls are damaged physiologically to the point they have great difficulty leading normal lives. After I discovered the truth that she had only been using me for money, I talked to 3 or 4 other working girls in Rio, and ALL of them did not see anything wrong with what she did. To them, scamming men is a normal way to make a living.
I frequented prostitutes before, but this experience has made me give up that bad habit. I traveled to Brazil on average once every 4 months. I quit fooling around with prostitutes over a year ago, but continued to travel to Brazil as I really loved the country. I had planned to retire there, but with this legal development, I may never be able to travel there again. The Department of State has told me (off the record) that extradition is highly unlikely in this case, but I don’t find much comfort in that.
Guys, don’t think with the little head when you meet these girls. There are too many girls in Brazil who have you, and many other men as ‘boyfriends.’ When I told one PI in Brazil that I met her in Help Disco, he said “man, I get a lot of work out of that place”. It’s a quote I will never forget. It made me realize I was not alone in my foolish attempt to believe a relationship is possible with one of these girls. If she really cares about you, wait it out until you learn a great deal about her before you start spending large wads of cash. And with Brazilians, you’re not ‘in’ until you meet her family. I talked to this girl’s family, but never met them in person.
It is not worth the attempt to build a relationship with these working girls. If you must frequent prostitutes, use them and dump them. Do not get involved with them personally; it is not worth the risk. My Portuguese is pretty good and I talk to the girls all the time about what happened to me. All of them told me it is quite common for girls to have several boyfriends who send them money. Be careful with your money and your hearts guys. If money is a requirement to maintain the ‘relationship’, then more than likely you are still her client.[/QUOTE]
But you are doing the right thing by reminding others to not even allow that little seed a gdp can plant in your mind about the possibility of a serious/marriage type relationship.
Gdp's are human, but they are what they are, and do what they do ( make money ). Can't forget that. I thought this obvious to all, but I guess I was wrong.
I understand your bitterness, but cutting out gdp's from your life does not mean that you can not be taken again. For example, a person in your situation now hooks up with a non-gdp, then gets married......then divorced, and you are going to be out more than the $40,000-60,000. Gets screwed as well.
Look at Mel Gibson, he is worth over 900 million. He is getting divorced. Guess what? In California, spouse gets half of what you made from the point of marriage. He's out 450 million. I am sure he will survive with the other half of his cash :)
So you came out smelling like roses! You have your health, job, and your future. Just be thankful you did not have any kids with her.
Thanks again for sharing your experience. Hopefully, it will save others some major heartache and cash.
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scammed
It happens with girls whatever they do, not just prostitutes.
It so happened that the two times I went to Cuba, I was had.
But luckily I am naturally cheap, so when a girl asks and asks without giving, I become suspicious. And I leave.
Never took me that long to realize my stupidity. But I admit, I fell because I was desperate and lonely. That is all. Sad to say, but true.
Or, desperate for what really does not want me. I am sure we get attention, but sometimes from girls we don't want. So in Cuba or wherever, it is so much easier, cheaper and then easier to slide into delusion.
Like women al over the world, prostitutes or not, very cagey.
Manipulative. So it is a game. What they lose with age, we gain.
So this should not have to happen.
Thank god it does not happen to me often. I am 37, and not rich.
I am planning on going back to Cuba anyway.
Deep down I like the game, piercing through the lies, the moaning in and out of bed. It's the risk, the thrill. Who's the bigger idiot? Who's using whom?
And in the end, where in the us will I get such great T and A for those prices? Check out online, 200 an hour for a hefty older lady.
Mongering, traveling to monger, is a statement that says we do have options. Do not have to take the dribs and drabs given to us in the us--with incredible sneers.
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I second that!
Yes, D&D, it cost you 40G or so, but Mangera is right: your "divorce" came cheap by comparison. My divorces were not nearly as expensive as Mel Gibson's, but still vastly more costly than the 40 big ones that you pissed away on the girl from Help. And something tells me that you had way better sex, too, ...
(BTW, I just put a link into the ROD thread to D&D's post. It's worth reading and keeping in mind for future adventures for all of us ...)
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scammed
It happens with girls whatever they do, not just prostitutes.
It so happened that the two times I went to Cuba, I was had.
But luckily I am naturally cheap, so when a girl asks and asks without giving, I become suspicious. And I leave.
Never took me that long to realize my stupidity. But I admit, I fell because I was desperate and lonely. That is all. Sad to say, but true.
Or, desperate for what really does not want me. I am sure we get attention, but sometimes from girls we don't want. So in Cuba or wherever, it is so much easier, cheaper and then easier to slide into delusion.
Like women all over the world, prostitutes or not, they are very cagey.
Manipulative. So it is a game. What they lose with age, we gain.
So this should not have to happen.
Thank god it does not happen to me often. I am 37, and not rich.
I am planning on going back to Cuba anyway.
Deep down I like the game, piercing through the lies, the moaning in and out of bed. It's the risk, the thrill. Who's the bigger idiot?
Who's using whom?
And in the end, where in the usa will I get such great T and A for those prices? Check out online, 200 an hour for a hefty older lady.
Mongering, traveling to monger, is a statement that says we do have options. Do not have to take the dribs and drabs given to us in the us--with incredible sneers.
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Dumb N Dumber
[QUOTE=Dumb N Dumber]I wanted to write about something that is happening in my life due to my involvement with a prostitute I met in Rio de Janeiro. I know what happened to me initially, also happens to a lot of other men who travel to Brazil. It is what happened after I learned that I had been rolled, that is stunning. [/QUOTE]
This is not a Brasilian phenomenon, it could happen anywhere. I commend you on your choice of user names.
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[QUOTE=Dumb N Dumber]I met this girl in Rio de Janeiro in Help Disco and was taken back by her beauty. But she was also charming, intelligent, soft spoken, and extremely well mannered. It did not take long for me to fall for her. I thought she was the perfect woman................What I didn’t realize was……when she was not with me in another country, she was still ‘working’ in Brazil. I had been rolled for 18 months and didn’t even realize it. I’m a smart guy; high IQ, well spoken, have a job in management, and reasonably successful in my career. I thought I was way smart enough to spot a con if I ever met one. I could not have been more wrong![/QUOTE]Welcome to the club my friend - been there done that.
As Poucolouco wrote - not specific to Brazil - happens the world over.
Billy was taken by a Chinese w.h.o.r.e one time who got me hook, line and sinker.
It can hapen to anybody - once bitten - twice shy.
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[QUOTE=Lorenzo]
So, guys, if you haven't figured it out already, the cardinal rule is this: once a prostitute, always a prostitute. If you find a GDP who charms you, by all means have a good time with her and enjoy yourself while you can. But never, ever trust her, and never give her your heart.[/QUOTE]
I think Lorenzo is just emphasising the necessary warning note of Dumb N Dumber's excellent post. But every time someone says this I have to disagree. It might not be one in a million. It might be one in ten million. But I personally know two ex-prostitutes who have been happily married now for several years. They have got an excellent deal and I don't see either of them returning to their old life. Neither of them now have the motivation, [u]opportunity[/u] or, as far as I can see, the inclination to get 'top-ups.'
What I think is harder is that if you once pay, you are forever likely to be regarded as a 'client'*, just as Lorenzo, like most normal people I guess, take the view that anyone that they have ever paid is basically a prostitute. Either way, it reinforces the role. It is very easy to define a person by their actions at a particular time.
As D&N said, if you must frequent prostitutes, use them and dump them. It's a bit like marriage (a high-end, less conscious type of P4P for many women if you like). Once you buy into the the game plan, you're stuck with it.
[color=gray][i]* shorthand for sucker-who-pays. It's about defining the limits. And for anyone who's seen hookers advertising "credit-crunch-specials", remember this means, "I'm feeling the crunch, so I'm really charging you more." Is it worth it if she calls you special? Sweetheart? Husband? Aren't women genetically coded to get the best circumstances to raise their brats? This generally means maximising income, safety, security. 'Love' is nature's way of helping those that can't do it consciously.[/i][/color]
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Getting fooled by a GP.
I hear these stories all the time about gringos getting fooled by GP's.
The story is always the same. It's like several phases:
1. The guy meets a girl in Help. She gives him a GFE. He falls in love. He spends a lot of money on the girl.
2. He returns back home. Shortly afterwards he invites her to visit him. He spends more money on the girl.
3. She returns to Brazil. He keeps sending her money every month so she can stop working as a GP. She assures him that she's home with her mother and will never again do tricks (of course that's just BS).
4. The girls need more money. She needs a laptop, go to the dentist, her mother needs medicine, the daughter needs to go to a private school, the dog needs a surgery etc. Money keeps rolling in.
5. Time for some bigger investments. She and her mother needs to build a new house. The girl also needs silicone implants. The guy sends a lot of money. The construction is delayed and costly. He sends more money.
6. The guy comes down to Brazil. He gets surprised when he understands that there isn't a newly constructed house. He forgets about the house when she gives him a GFE. The girl now got her milking cow in her back-yard. Time for shopping, clothes, new refrigirator, christmas presents etc. She makes sure to use him as much as possible.
So when does it stop? It depends on how dumb the guy are. It can go on forever.
I have two friends with many years of experience of Brazil who are going through this process right now. One of them has been spending outrageous money on his girl during the last five years.
He refuses to understand what everybody else understands. His girl feels no love at all for him, she's cheats on him, she despises him and is only using him. I've tried to speak sense to the guy, without any success. Even though he's my friend I can't really feel sorry for him. Somebody acting so dumb really deserves what's coming for him.
I have some close friends who works at Help and Barbarella. Beautiful and charming girls. They tell me openly about all the guys they fool. They have several BFs at the same time who keeps sending them money, expensive presents (even dogs), laptops, flatscreens, pays their rents, pays for maids and invites them to Europe/US/Australia.
I see when these girls chat with their BF's over the webcam. Assuring them that they are faithful, loves them and stopped working as GP. The girls are great actors.
I congratulate these girls for succeeding with their business. I can't feel sorry for the guys. They will survive. The girls needs their money better than they do. Not to mention that these girls can afford to give their friend Sperto a free session every now and then. :D
Dumb N Dumber, thank you for sharing you story. Hopefully some other mongers will learn and not fall in the same trap. Stop crying, you seem to earn a lot of money and your only real loss is a broken heart.
Your girl filed a criminal charge against you. You deserve that. You shouldn't have mentioned her name and home city on a public forum. That was hitting below the belt.
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=633679&postcount=4170[/url]
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Start my own PI business in Rio!!
Man, after reading all these posts, I am seriously thinking of starting my own GDP Private Investigation business in Copa. If these guys are willing to send 3-6 thousand dollars a month to keep their lady off the programma, they should be happy to pay me $1,500, for one month of surveillance!
I mean to be honest; How hard could it be? I would just give the flower lady, the chiclette girls and the dozens of homeless kids my business card. And tell them "If you see this girl in Copa, call me immediately". If it is her, I will pay the person a 50R fee.
I would buy a nice video camera with night vision and a zoom lense, sit in a taxi out in front of Help and just wait for the girl to leave with her client. I betcha I could make more money in Copa doin PI work than I do now!!
Does anyone know how much the services of a PI in Rio costs?
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[QUOTE=Sperto]The girls needs their money better than they do. Not to mention that these girls can afford to give their friend Sperto a free session every now and then. :D
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ROFL, like it! I must admit I enjoy sessioning with girls who have an income. They are less needy.
My old wingman took it to extremes though. Invited me over to his 'mansion'.
"How come you're living in a mansion in Ipanema?"
- "Oh, it's her mansion."
"Sounds like you're doing great. Why are you still chasing that schoolteacher on the side?"
Anyway, turns out, mansion-girl won't let him pay for anything. She gets truckloads of dosh from her Scandinavian ex. They go to all the best places to eat and party and she pays. It seemed to be damaging his sense of 'manhood'. I'm sure there's another moral there somewhere . . .
:D :D :D
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[QUOTE=Bravo]Man, after reading all these posts, I am seriously thinking of starting my own GDP Private Investigation business in Copa. If these guys are willing to send 3-6 thousand dollars a month to keep their lady off the programma, they should be happy to pay me $1,500, for one month of surveillance!
I mean to be honest; How hard could it be? I would just give the flower lady, the chiclette girls and the dozens of homeless kids my business card. And tell them "If you see this girl in Copa, call me immediately". If it is her, I will pay the person a 50R fee.
I would buy a nice video camera with night vision and a zoom lense, sit in a taxi out in front of Help and just wait for the girl to leave with her client. I betcha I could make more money in Copa doin PI work than I do now!!
Does anyone know how much the services of a PI in Rio costs?[/QUOTE]Great idea. Could I be an investor?
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[QUOTE=Sperto]I hear these stories all the time about gringos getting fooled by GP's.
The story is always the same. It's like several phases:
1. The guy meets a girl in Help. She gives him a GFE. He falls in love. He spends a lot of money on the girl.
2. He returns back home. Shortly afterwards he invites her to visit him. He spends more money on the girl.
3. She returns to Brazil. He keeps sending her money every month so she can stop working as a GP. She assures him that she's home with her mother and will never again do tricks (of course that's just BS).
4. The girls need more money. She needs a laptop, go to the dentist, her mother needs medicine, the daughter needs to go to a private school, the dog needs a surgery etc. Money keeps rolling in.
5. Time for some bigger investments. She and her mother needs to build a new house. The girl also needs silicone implants. The guy sends a lot of money. The construction is delayed and costly. He sends more money.
6. The guy comes down to Brazil. He gets surprised when he understands that there isn't a newly constructed house. He forgets about the house when she gives him a GFE. The girl now got her milking cow in her back-yard. Time for shopping, clothes, new refrigirator, christmas presents etc. She makes sure to use him as much as possible.
So when does it stop? It depends on how dumb the guy are. It can go on forever.
I have two friends with many years of experience of Brazil who are going through this process right now. One of them has been spending outrageous money on his girl during the last five years.
He refuses to understand what everybody else understands. His girl feels no love at all for him, she's cheats on him, she despises him and is only using him. I've tried to speak sense to the guy, without any success. Even though he's my friend I can't really feel sorry for him. Somebody acting so dumb really deserves what's coming for him.
I have some close friends who works at Help and Barbarella. Beautiful and charming girls. They tell me openly about all the guys they fool. They have several BFs at the same time who keeps sending them money, expensive presents (even dogs), laptops, flatscreens, pays their rents, pays for maids and invites them to Europe/US/Australia.
I see when these girls chat with their BF's over the webcam. Assuring them that they are faithful, loves them and stopped working as GP. The girls are great actors.
I congratulate these girls for succeeding with their business. I can't feel sorry for the guys. They will survive. The girls needs their money better than they do. Not to mention that these girls can afford to give their friend Sperto a free session every now and then. :D
Dumb N Dumber, thank you for sharing you story. Hopefully some other mongers will learn and not fall in the same trap. Stop crying, you seem to earn a lot of money and your only real loss is a broken heart.
Your girl filed a criminal charge against you. You deserve that. You shouldn't have mentioned her name and home city on a public forum. That was hitting below the belt.
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=633679&postcount=4170[/url][/QUOTE]So Sperto,
How big was your girl's silicon implants, and where did you buy them a house?
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Is it just me?
[QUOTE=Dumb N Dumber]It is not worth the attempt to build a relationship with these working girls. If you must frequent prostitutes, use them and dump them. Do not get involved with them personally; it is not worth the risk. My Portuguese is pretty good and I talk to the girls all the time about what happened to me. All of them told me it is quite common for girls to have several boyfriends who send them money. Be careful with your money and your hearts guys. If money is a requirement to maintain the ‘relationship’, then more than likely you are still her client. [/QUOTE]I am definitly not saying you deserved what you got, because no one deserves for someone else to take advantage of them. But you said you read this form extensively. It's covered with posts from guys like Sperto, Christophered and Exectalent stating the dangers of this kind of monetary arrangement. These 3 guys literally have thousands of posts here and a vast number of those dissuade guys from sending money to Brazil. You state that you are a pretty sucessful guy. I am just amazed and curious about you got fooled for 18 months. Don't mean to sound insensitive. My heart is bleeding. 40 grand buys a lot of time in 4x4.
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In my mind, the big lesson that new guys should take from "dumb and dumber" is to never trust or expect anything from a GDP who is not directly in your line of sight. If a monger wants to fly a GDP to be where ever he is and pay the expenses of that trip, there is nothing wrong with that as he is paying for use of her pussy, essentially. Sending a girl money when you are not around and not plowing into her pussy is simply ludicrous in my opinion. What are you paying for? If this guy wanted to successfully take a shark out of the water and make this GDP his non-working girlfriend, he should have immediately taken her out of Brasil and brought her to live wherever he was living at the time. Also, this guy has to be realistic; if this girl is in her mid or earlier 20's, and strikingly beautiful, and he is an overweight guy in his forties or fifties, is she really going to take him seriously, fall in love and give up the life?
Suerte,
Rock Harders
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Re: Criminal Charges
[quote=bravo]man, after reading all these posts, i am seriously thinking of starting my own gdp private investigation business in copa. if these guys are willing to send 3-6 thousand dollars a month to keep their lady off the programma, they should be happy to pay me $1,500, for one month of surveillance!
i mean to be honest; how hard could it be? i would just give the flower lady, the chiclette girls and the dozens of homeless kids my business card. and tell them "if you see this girl in copa, call me immediately". if it is her, i will pay the person a 50r fee.
i would buy a nice video camera with night vision and a zoom lense, sit in a taxi out in front of help and just wait for the girl to leave with her client. i betcha i could make more money in copa doin pi work than i do now!!
does anyone know how much the services of a pi in rio costs?[/quote]according to the pi that i spoke with, he does a good business there and a lot of comes from gringos with gdp girlfriends. i doubt he is rolling in cash, but i would bet he makes a comfortable living. i did pay him for a few hours of work and i can’t remember what it cost me but it was reasonable. i also remember it was well above what a brazilian would normally earn though.
someone asked my nationality and i am a us citizen. from the gdp’s i have talked to, americans are the #1 suckers, followed closely by the italians, but no nationality is exempt. i eventually found a list of e-mail addresses of men this girl was corresponding with and there were about 20 names on it; 50% from italy, maybe 30% from the us, 1 guy from mexico and the rest were rep001tered across europe. she seemed to have a preference for italian guys.
carrib, i am not sure about the statute of limitations in brazil, but in my case, charges have been filed, so it does not matter. if i enter brazil 20 years from now, i could be detained. i am in the process of retaining an attorney right now, as i want to have the charges thrown out. i have more than enough evidence to prove my statements about her are true and therefore not slander. but the charges were filed in brazil and she is brazilian and i am not. i doubt i would receive a 100% fair trial there, but i am pushing forward to defend myself anyway. one attorney told me it is possible to have charges dismissed prior to trial, so i am hoping for that. at a minimum, it will cost me $4,000 usd to have investigative work done and a motion filed to dismiss. if that doesn’t work though, it will take a lot more work and money to make this go away. i have spoken with someone at the department of state and he told me (strictly off record) that this is not an offense that would normally be considered grounds for extradition.
i have thought about just blowing this off but i really love brazil and want to continue to travel there. i’ve been in 20 to 25 different countries in asia, europe, africa, south america and central america, but i have never been to a place that i loved so much as brazil. from my first trip there, i fell in love with brazil and it had nothing to do with the gdp’s. my trips there were never about gdp’s. the scenery in brazil is stunning and the people are friendly. i never attempted to learn a foreign language until i went to brazil, and now i can speak portuguese, albeit barely. i can hold a conversation in portuguese and for anyone else that can do the same, you know this makes an enormous difference in how you are accepted there by regular citizens.
the point of my post was that you need to be careful with everything you do in brazil and elsewhere. this may be a hobby to the men who travel there, but it is a business for the gdp’s. while the vast majority of the gdp’s would not go so far as to file charges against you if there ends up being a conflict (or just for the hell of it), anything is possible. this hobby may be like playing russian roulette with a gun that holds 1,000 rounds. many men have written in this forum about problems with gdp’s and the police being summoned. just based on that, i guess the possibility always exists that she could file charges, baseless or not. more than likely though, if you have an issue with the gdp it will be over money and you are more than likely going to have to deal with the favela boys. personally, i’d rather deal with the police.
mr. bond, i know that all women are not the same, but because of this one experience, i am more cautious about who i allow into my life, even if only for a moment and this pretty much rules out gdp’s. i view them in a completely different light now. since i can speak portuguese well enough, this has opened up doors with the regular girls in brazil anyway and there is no reason for me to have to deal with gdp’s. i know even a regular girl may try to roll me, but i think the chances of that happening are less likely.
dried up, you are right this could happen anywhere, but because the gdp’s there are affectionate and offer more of a gfe experience, the possibility of it happening in brazil may be higher. for me, it was not even a gfe experience with her; not initially and not at any time after she entered my life. the truth is, she wasn’t even that good in bed. i thought i saw other qualities in her and that is what appealed to me.
chingon, sorry, but at the moment, i don’t want to post her pic here. the website that has her photos and info about her can only be found if you know her name. if someone else were to become personally involved with her, she would have to reveal her real name at some point to receive western union transfers or other financial transactions. i don’t know what other men do, but i always google names of people to see if there is any dirt on them. there are quite a few websites devoted to scammers and list the names of the girls in them. my point in having a website built specifically dedicated to her, was to insure the odds would be higher that someone could learn the truth about how she makes a living. although a website can be viewed by anyone in the world, the odds that anyone would see her site are astronomical unless you know her name.
[quote=sperto]stop crying, you seem to earn a lot of money and your only real loss is a broken heart. your girl filed a criminal charge against you. you deserve that. you shouldn't have mentioned her name and home city on a public forum. that was hitting below the belt.[/quote]
so what you are saying is that because my income is above average that it makes it okay to target me for theft? i don’t agree with that and i do not deserve criminal charges against me. speaking the truth about someone, however hurtful, does not define slander. do you define what she did to me as hitting above the belt?
thanks to all that commented on this, including sperto. i’m not sure it warrants r.o. d. status but i hope it makes everyone think a little about how involved you get with a gdp. i have a friend recently who became involved with one and i tried to tell him to proceed cautiously. although she seemed like a really nice girl, he was spending a lot of money on her too soon into the relationship. he listened but disregarded and sure enough, a few months after he left brazil, she informed him she had become pregnant to another man. he’s a great guy and seemed to shrug it off, but i hope it did not cost him too much $$ or pain. even with all the warnings, there will still be a lot of guys who take the plunge. sure, it’s always possible it could work, but i want encourage everyone to go slowly. again, if you have to spend big bucks to stay in her life, you may be nothing more than a mark. i also wrote about meeting her family. a brazilian girl’s family is sacred; if you have met her family then you are truly part of her life. if not, proceed with extreme caution, because ahead, those ‘curves’ could be dangerous.
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What is wrong with you guys. Why would send your money to a prostitute, to not be a prostitute when your gone. How stupid can you guys be. Have fun with the girls and always have the upper hand. DONT MARRY A HOOKER! What is wrong with you. what are you going to tell your kids about her. I think everyone here has average smarts. You guys have been around. Your not rookies. What made you evolve into a sap. Never let them know you have alot of money. Lie about everything. I am the complete opposite of you guys. After i am with a girl the first time, i try to get a lower price the second time, even if i have the money. Alot of the girls are great people to be with but once you take it to the next level its over. They will take you for everything.the fantasy is alwaus better than reality.
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[QUOTE=Dumb N Dumber]I was absolutely stunned. Then it turned to absolute fury. No one had ever taken money from me like that before. I posted some information on the internet to warn others about this woman. I wrote that she is a prostitute, a thief and a pathological liar; all truths.
Now, this woman has filed charges against me in Brazil alleging slander. It’s a false charge, but it will cost me between $10,000 and $20,000 to defend myself against her accusations. I have more than enough proof to back up my statements against her, but it may cost me $20,000 to clear my name. Slander is a criminal offense in Brazil, carrying a sentence of 6 to 24 months and civil damages are possible as well. I find it incredibly arrogant that this prostitute rolled me for $40,000 USD and is now trying to cause more damage to my life because I tried to inform the public about her. I have serious doubts as to whether I would receive a fair trial in Brazil.[/QUOTE]Following my previous post, a couple of thoughts for D&D:
Everybody is basically looking for the same things: Love, money and health. Have them all and youre happy. And without love, health and good sex, all the money in the world is worth nothing.
We all have different starting points in life: Some people start with no money, some start with no love, and some start just with good looks. And we try to get them all.
GDPs are no different from other people. They just make their money with their bodies and good looks. In the end, they all have the same dream: Make money, find the right guy and have a family (it's true!). And in the process, they need to get money from guys that might have a lot of money but whose lives lack good sex and probably some affection.
Brazilians, in that sense, are truly special for us, europeans or americans. We live in so-called developed countries, where our standards of living don't necessariliy provide happy lives. Mostly because they lack what they do have: a lot of charm and pure love for life.
In short: I'm sorry about your experience. I don't think that is very wise to get involved emotionally with GDPs. They might end happily married, but most probably won't be with you.The play their role: Enticing us, making us happy for an hour, giving us some affection. And, as a friend of mine once told me: "You can get more love and affection from a brazilian GDP in a week than from your own wife in a lifetime".
One important thing: You made a TERRIBLE mistake. You thought that because a gilrl is a GDP, that she has no honor. That's not true. Even more, her honor is terribly important for her. Pride is CRUCIAL for brazilians in general and mentioning her name in public forums is what brought you to this situation.
If I were you, I'd still try to talk with her and try to amend things. Think: She's not some anglosaxon wife trying to get your last penny for alimony. She's a brazilian. And brazilians are different.
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Slander charges
[QUOTE=Dumb N Dumber]Now, this woman has filed charges against me in Brazil alleging slander. It’s a false charge, but it will cost me between $10,000 and $20,000 to defend myself against her accusations.[/QUOTE]
One question immediatley comes to my mind: is she just telling you that she has filed charges, or have you been officially served through letters rogatory in your home country? If she's only claiming that she has filed charges, more likely than not, it's only a smoke screen. I have a GDP in my past, too, who for years threatened to charge me with something and told me that she actually did. You know what? Nothing ever came of it. Just another bunch of big lies and exaggerated claims.
As long as you're not in Brazil, I wouldn't really worry about it.
On a side note and without claiming to practice law or anything (whether in Brazil or elsewhere), as far as I know, in a slander/libel suit, the burden of proof is actually on the plaintiff. In other words, she would have to prove that whatever you said is factually incorrect.
But anyhow. Regarding your story, first of all, thanks for sharing. It takes a big man to honestly report something like that, and I applaud you for that. After years of reading this board, I can confidently say that you are not the only one who has gone through a nightmare like that. As a matter of fact, I suspect that most of us mongers have had a similar experience at one point or another. I certainly have. Like in Lorenzo's case (reported below), the stories are eerily similar.
Also, keep in mind that things could have been much worse. A couple of years, a guy from California was actually murdered when we visited a Brazilian woman he had met over the Internet. Over the years, he had dished out tens of thousands of dollars on her... the killers? The girl and her real-life boyfriend.
[url]http://mb.internetdatingconference.com/viewtopic.php?t=618&view=next[/url]
Finally, let me comment on something else you wrote:
[QUOTE=Dumb N Dumber]After I discovered the truth that she had only been using me for money, I talked to 3 or 4 other working girls in Rio, and ALL of them did not see anything wrong with what she did. To them, scamming men is a normal way to make a living.[/QUOTE]
Just before I read your story yesterday, by pure coincidence, I was watching "Shade" again, a movie where Daniel Byrne has the following to say to his fellow con artists after cheating another poker player out of 80,000 dollars (I am quoting from personal recollection):
"I don't feel sorry for the guy. As far as I am concerned, a guy who doesn't know how to hold on to his money doesn't deserve it in the first place."
I think everyone would be well advised to automatically assume that this is EXACTLY the attitude of a Copacabana GPD. Or hookers anywhere else, for that matter.
Good luck,
EA
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[QUOTE=Bravo]Man, after reading all these posts, I am seriously thinking of starting my own GDP Private Investigation business in Copa. If these guys are willing to send 3-6 thousand dollars a month to keep their lady off the programma, they should be happy to pay me $1,500, for one month of surveillance!
Does anyone know how much the services of a PI in Rio costs?[/QUOTE]Awesome post! I was thinking something along the same lines but couldn't actually figure out what occupation to take up in Rio if I find I love it there when I make my first trip this week. Dude, you might have some competition on your hands. Lol.
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It's happened to us all to some degree.....
[QUOTE=Dumb N Dumber]
Now, this woman has filed charges against me in Brazil alleging slander. It’s a false charge, but it will cost me between $10,000 and $20,000 to defend myself against her accusations. I have more than enough proof to back up my statements against her, but it may cost me $20,000 to clear my name. Slander is a criminal offense in Brazil, carrying a sentence of 6 to 24 months and civil damages are possible as well. I find it incredibly arrogant that this prostitute rolled me for $40,000 USD and is now trying to cause more damage to my life because I tried to inform the public about her. I have serious doubts as to whether I would receive a fair trial in Brazil.
[/QUOTE] DnD - you certainly have balls to share your sad tale with us. As has been stated several times, we have all been there to some degree or another. And it's not an issue exclusive to Brazil, that's for damned sure. It's what these girls do for a living and they are good at it.
I had a chat with a Brazilian attorney friend of mine about your legal matter and (just like a typical lawyer) he says that without additional details he could never speculate on the merits of her case. However, all things being equal, she is in all likelihood launching a peremptory strike against any legal action you may be considering to take in the recovery of your $40k clams. He went on to say that while legal fees to clear you name may well exceed the value of the money lost, there's no guarantee that you will be any further ahead than if you do nothing. His advice was to lay low and stay under the radar. No judge wants to be associated with a case like this and the only people who have ANYTHING to gain is the lawyers. Don't throw good money after bad.
Remember - lawyers and GDP's have more in common that we may want to admit ;)
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Not so hard to find a picture
[QUOTE=Chingon]If you got a pic of the GDP, post it. Gives us more info.
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With a little Google knowledge you can trace down the website that D&D made "in honor" of the girl. (took me less than 30 seconds). On the front page there is a nice pic of her, and then there are 5 more on a second page.
Sperto said about D&D: "Your girl filed a criminal charge against you. You deserve that. You shouldn't have mentioned her name and home city on a public forum. That was hitting below the belt."
My first reaction was something like, oh fuck, man, Sperto, this is way to harsh. The man got hurt, and he just posted his experience here. But I must say now that I agree. The dedicated website is taking it a step too far.
On the other hand, D&D, the Internet is a double-edged sword. And you want to be very [B]careful[/B] how you use it. You can take my advice or leave it, but if I were you, I would delete all of the contents of the website you created, including all of the pictures. Websites can be traced back to their creators!!!
D&D, I had initially put your post into the ROD thread, because I found it instructive and informative. Then I found your first post on this forum, from 18 month ago, and I linked that too in the same post. But now I have deleted my ROD posting, because I do not want to contribute to people finding out who this girl is, and who you are.
D&D, you can PM me, and I can explain to you how I found your information. Hopefully, this will help you to erase all traces leading to the girl and leading to you. Obviously, I do not want to post the details here.
WARNING for all of us: the p4p thing is a business, and it's make-believe. It's good while it last, but you [i]have[/i] to respect the rules:
1. Enjoy it while it lasts.
2. If it goes down, let it slide.
3. Never give more information than you need to, and in particular not to a GDP.
4. NEVER EVER NEVER use your real name or anything that can be used to trace you down in real life.
peace
euro
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My Two Cents
D and D. Thanks for sharing this story with us. Like I read in many of the replies to your story, it happens to the best of them. Fortunately reading this board, I have managed to steer clear of being taken. But, like you, I have a girl that I was really in love with that I met back in 2006. On my three visits in 2006, 2007, and 2008 we spent a lot of time together. We did the whole GFE. Dinners, shopping, but nothing really extravagent. She loves designer clothes and handbags but never once has she ever asked me to buy her something. Maybe this is the reverse phsycology con. LOL. I've told her that I'd love to take her out of that life but she really seemed content doing what she was doing. She worked in England, Monte Carlo, and now Switzerland. I'd imagine she's making a mint over there. Here's what always stumps me. She knows when we're together that when i leave, i unload my wallet to her. But she has never asked me for anything at any other time. When i say unload my wallet, I don't mean that much. For a week i'll usually give her between $1000 -$1500. So I hadn't talked to her in a while and she was in Switzerland when I came to Rio in march, but somehow through Garotanet she found out I was in Rio which in itself is pretty funny. She sent me an E-mail the other day saying that she was homesick and wanted to get back to her family and her baby in Sao Paolo. She also told me that she's had enough of this business. She tells me she has no desire to move to the US. So pretty much that's where it ends I guess. I guess the point of my story is that it's easy to fall in love with a GDP in Rio. You just always have to be on your toes and second guess everything they do or say. To me, as soon as they start asking for money when you are not there, RUN!!!!
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[QUOTE=Lancer520]D and D. Thanks for sharing this story with us. Like I read in many of the replies to your story, it happens to the best of them. Fortunately reading this board, I have managed to steer clear of being taken. But, like you, I have a girl that I was really in love with that I met back in 2006. On my three visits in 2006, 2007, and 2008 we spent a lot of time together. We did the whole GFE. Dinners, shopping, but nothing really extravagent. She loves designer clothes and handbags but never once has she ever asked me to buy her something. Maybe this is the reverse phsycology con. LOL. I've told her that I'd love to take her out of that life but she really seemed content doing what she was doing. She worked in England, Monte Carlo, and now Switzerland. I'd imagine she's making a mint over there. Here's what always stumps me. She knows when we're together that when I leave, I unload my wallet to her. But she has never asked me for anything at any other time. When I say unload my wallet, I don't mean that much. For a week I'll usually give her between $1000.$1500. So I hadn't talked to her in a while and she was in Switzerland when I came to Rio in March, but somehow through Garotanet she found out I was in Rio which in itself is pretty funny. She sent me an E-mail the other day saying that she was homesick and wanted to get back to her family and her baby in Sao Paolo. She also told me that she's had enough of this business. She tells me she has no desire to move to the US. So pretty much that's where it ends I guess. I guess the point of my story is that it's easy to fall in love with a GDP in Rio. You just always have to be on your toes and second guess everything they do or say. To me, as soon as they start asking for money when you are not there, RUN! [/QUOTE]Lancer. Good advice. I had a GDP start asking me for money when I returned home. I cut that broad off like a fire hydrant. LOL. Fella's never second guess that little voice in your head telling you to "RUN FOREST RUN" Those GDP's don't have a pot to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] in and a window to throw it out of, and they will try every trick in the book to get what you got.
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[QUOTE=Brazilman]What is wrong with you guys. Why would send your money to a prostitute, to not be a prostitute when your gone. How stupid can you guys be. Have fun with the girls and always have the upper hand. DONT MARRY A HOOKER! What is wrong with you. what are you going to tell your kids about her. I think everyone here has average smarts. You guys have been around. Your not rookies. What made you evolve into a sap. Never let them know you have alot of money. Lie about everything. I am the complete opposite of you guys. After i am with a girl the first time, i try to get a lower price the second time, even if i have the money. Alot of the girls are great people to be with but once you take it to the next level its over. They will take you for everything.the fantasy is alwaus better than reality.[/QUOTE]
99% of all females are hookers to some degree. Beyonce sings "if you want it put a ring on it," and garotas world-wide are singing. GDP is world-wide. And if you get wit any female anywhere, either she or the courts are going to try and f&^k you. I've never been married in 50 years, but ask men who have, and they will call the wife or ex-wife a *****.
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Another way to look at it
If you make the mistake of falling in love with a GDP and later getting burned, it's important to look at the positive side of it and then just let it go. All of us who have had such an experience vary in exactly what we experienced, so I'll just use my own case as an example. I was involved with a GDP from 2000 to 2004 and made several trips to Rio primarily to see her. (I also visited the termas, of course without telling her, so it wasn't exclusively to see her.) I am embarrassed to admit that we talked about getting married and in fact considered ourselves engaged (or at least I did). Then she suddenly takes off for Italy--where she still is--to work as a prostitute in Bergamo and Milan, leaving me to feel like a fool. However, let's look at the bright side. What did I get out of that relationship? All of the following:
--4 years of great sex;
--never having to do anything alone, i.e., I always had a companion for dinner, movies, travel, and occasional concerts at Teatro Municipal;
--the experience of having a family, at least temporarily, since the last few times I visited I stayed at her place and got to know her kids, who I had a great time with;
--last but not least, the joy of being in love, even if it didn't last.
Now let's look at whether or not it was such a financial disaster. I never tallied up how much I spent on her, but I would estimate about US$15K. And I never counted how many times I had sex with her, but let's say it was 150 times (which I think is about right). So dividing the money spent by the number of fucks, it came to about US$100 per fuck. A bit steep if you're a frequenter of Vila Mimosa, but not so bad if you're used to the upscale termas. Bottom line: would I rather have had the experience, even having it end the way it did, than never to have had it at all? Yes, without a doubt. Will I ever forgive her? No. Will I ever make the same mistake again? No, because, although I have good GFE experiences with GDPs since then, I have learned never to trust. Ever.
That having been said, I have to disagree with a few things that have been said since DND posted. First of all, I totally disagree that he was wrong to expose this beeyutch for the lying phony that she was. It was she, not he, that got exactly what she deserved. I don't think any of you would think it was wrong to expose a con artist or a thief. Well, that's exactly what this girl was, so kudos to DND for exposing her publicly.
Finally, I can't see the harm in letting thr girl know your real name. In fact, I'm not really clear how it can be avoided, if you're going to write to each other. I've told every GDP I've ever been with my real name, and no harm has ever come from it. Just my two cents worth.
Lorenzo
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An Incident at TA
last march i was sitting a ta after the cowbell rung from helpee, and i was talking to this 18 red dress wearing garota with her girlfriend kay kay (fucked them both), and this enlish speaking white guy came and sat his ass at the table uninvitd speaking portuguese to the young girl. she spoke no english by the way. kay kay was translating the fuck session process.
so i said to the gent, excuse me but i did not invite you to my table. and he looked at me and said, "i ave her cousin some money for a medical bill earlier today, and i didn't know she was a *****, and i want my money from them. " red flag! all the whilte was telling me that the girl was new to the scene, and she was a good girl, before this guy showed up. then he stormed off.
now i did fuck the dog snot out of the 18 year old ****. but my point is there is so much bs going on with garotas to get our foreigner money, if any sob story comes our way about babies, new houses, dying mother or dog, it's not our problem. brazilian men don't care about it, then why should we.
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[QUOTE=Euro100]With a little Google knowledge you can trace down the website that D&D made "in honor" of the girl. (took me less than 30 seconds). On the front page there is a nice pic of her, and then there are 5 more on a second page.
Sperto said about D&D: "Your girl filed a criminal charge against you. You deserve that. You shouldn't have mentioned her name and home city on a public forum. That was hitting below the belt."
My first reaction was something like, oh fuck, man, Sperto, this is way to harsh. The man got hurt, and he just posted his experience here. But I must say now that I agree. The dedicated website is taking it a step too far.
Peace,
Euro[/QUOTE]Wow, I've seen it also. In 3 languages?
D&D, get over it.
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Co sign
[quote=dumb n dumber]according to the pi that i spoke with, he does a good business there and a lot of comes from gringos with gdp girlfriends. i doubt he is rolling in cash, but i would bet he makes a comfortable living. i did pay him for a few hours of work and i can’t remember what it cost me but it was reasonable. i also remember it was well above what a brazilian would normally earn though.
someone asked my nationality and i am a us citizen. from the gdp’s i have talked to, americans are the #1 suckers, followed closely by the italians, but no nationality is exempt. i eventually found a list of e-mail addresses of men this girl was corresponding with and there were about 20 names on it; 50% from italy, maybe 30% from the us, 1 guy from mexico and the rest were rep001tered across europe. she seemed to have a preference for italian guys.
carrib, i am not sure about the statute of limitations in brazil, but in my case, charges have been filed, so it does not matter. if i enter brazil 20 years from now, i could be detained. i am in the process of retaining an attorney right now, as i want to have the charges thrown out. i have more than enough evidence to prove my statements about her are true and therefore not slander. but the charges were filed in brazil and she is brazilian and i am not. i doubt i would receive a 100% fair trial there, but i am pushing forward to defend myself anyway. one attorney told me it is possible to have charges dismissed prior to trial, so i am hoping for that. at a minimum, it will cost me $4,000 usd to have investigative work done and a motion filed to dismiss. if that doesn’t work though, it will take a lot more work and money to make this go away. i have spoken with someone at the department of state and he told me (strictly off record) that this is not an offense that would normally be considered grounds for extradition.
i have thought about just blowing this off but i really love brazil and want to continue to travel there. i’ve been in 20 to 25 different countries in asia, europe, africa, south america and central america, but i have never been to a place that i loved so much as brazil. from my first trip there, i fell in love with brazil and it had nothing to do with the gdp’s. my trips there were never about gdp’s. the scenery in brazil is stunning and the people are friendly. i never attempted to learn a foreign language until i went to brazil, and now i can speak portuguese, albeit barely. i can hold a conversation in portuguese and for anyone else that can do the same, you know this makes an enormous difference in how you are accepted there by regular citizens.
the point of my post was that you need to be careful with everything you do in brazil and elsewhere. this may be a hobby to the men who travel there, but it is a business for the gdp’s. while the vast majority of the gdp’s would not go so far as to file charges against you if there ends up being a conflict (or just for the hell of it), anything is possible. this hobby may be like playing russian roulette with a gun that holds 1,000 rounds. many men have written in this forum about problems with gdp’s and the police being summoned. just based on that, i guess the possibility always exists that she could file charges, baseless or not. more than likely though, if you have an issue with the gdp it will be over money and you are more than likely going to have to deal with the favela boys. personally, i’d rather deal with the police.
mr. bond, i know that all women are not the same, but because of this one experience, i am more cautious about who i allow into my life, even if only for a moment and this pretty much rules out gdp’s. i view them in a completely different light now. since i can speak portuguese well enough, this has opened up doors with the regular girls in brazil anyway and there is no reason for me to have to deal with gdp’s. i know even a regular girl may try to roll me, but i think the chances of that happening are less likely.
dried up, you are right this could happen anywhere, but because the gdp’s there are affectionate and offer more of a gfe experience, the possibility of it happening in brazil may be higher. for me, it was not even a gfe experience with her; not initially and not at any time after she entered my life. the truth is, she wasn’t even that good in bed. i thought i saw other qualities in her and that is what appealed to me.
chingon, sorry, but at the moment, i don’t want to post her pic here. the website that has her photos and info about her can only be found if you know her name. if someone else were to become personally involved with her, she would have to reveal her real name at some point to receive western union transfers or other financial transactions. i don’t know what other men do, but i always google names of people to see if there is any dirt on them. there are quite a few websites devoted to scammers and list the names of the girls in them. my point in having a website built specifically dedicated to her, was to insure the odds would be higher that someone could learn the truth about how she makes a living. although a website can be viewed by anyone in the world, the odds that anyone would see her site are astronomical unless you know her name.
so what you are saying is that because my income is above average that it makes it okay to target me for theft? i don’t agree with that and i do not deserve criminal charges against me. speaking the truth about someone, however hurtful, does not define slander. do you define what she did to me as hitting above the belt?
thanks to all that commented on this, including sperto. i’m not sure it warrants r.o. d. status but i hope it makes everyone think a little about how involved you get with a gdp. i have a friend recently who became involved with one and i tried to tell him to proceed cautiously. although she seemed like a really nice girl, he was spending a lot of money on her too soon into the relationship. he listened but disregarded and sure enough, a few months after he left brazil, she informed him she had become pregnant to another man. he’s a great guy and seemed to shrug it off, but i hope it did not cost him too much $$ or pain. even with all the warnings, there will still be a lot of guys who take the plunge. sure, it’s always possible it could work, but i want encourage everyone to go slowly. again, if you have to spend big bucks to stay in her life, you may be nothing more than a mark. i also wrote about meeting her family. a brazilian girl’s family is sacred; if you have met her family then you are truly part of her life. if not, proceed with extreme caution, because ahead, those ‘curves’ could be dangerous.
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i definitely co sign with you about meeting a girls family.if a gdp doesn't invite you to meet her family, i would be extremely cautious.
i feel bad you had to go through that experience. i hope everything works out. your words here are words of caution for all of us.
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Opening a PI business in Rio
[QUOTE=Dumb N Dumber]According to the PI that I spoke with, he does a good business there and a lot of comes from gringos with GDP girlfriends. I doubt he is rolling in cash, but I would bet he makes a comfortable living. I did pay him for a few hours of work and I can’t remember what it cost me but it was reasonable. I also remember it was well above what a Brazilian would normally earn though.
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After reading this, maybe I really should consider giving it a try. I just got laid off from my job and I am headed to Rio for the next couple of months anyway. I should really look into what it takes to open this type of business.
One thing I know for sure, I am sure most Americans would feel more much comfortable dealing with another American instead of a brasilian man. I wouldnt be surprised in the least to find out that a bunch of the brasilian PIs are cutting a side deal (either for money or pussy) from the GDP, they are supposed to be tracking.
Side note. In the past couple of years, I have already helped about 6 different guys with this same problem. Guys from different boards who knew I was headed to brasil, next thing i know, i get a PM asking "Can you tell me if you see this girl in Help or MP". I have probably saved them tens of thousands of dollars by letting them know that their girl is still working .
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Stop destroying each other's lifes
[QUOTE=Bondjamesbond]One important thing: You made a TERRIBLE mistake. You thought that because a gilrl is a GDP, that she has no honor. That's not true. Even more, her honor is terribly important for her. Pride is CRUCIAL for brazilians in general and mentioning her name in public forums is what brought you to this situation.
If I were you, I'd still try to talk with her and try to amend things. Think: She's not some anglosaxon wife trying to get your last penny for alimony. She's a brazilian. And brazilians are different.[/QUOTE]Just to finish: I know this might sound crazy to most of you, but believe me, I know brazilians, I'm happily married to one (no, not a GDP).
About your case: She played her rules, you played your rules. You both got hurt. Talk to her and tell her it doesn't make sense for you two to keep destroying each other. You can still do a lot of damage to her. And she knows it.
Don't spend more money with lawyers, try to evolve from this experience. GDPs in Brazil don't have an easy life. Don't treat them like scum. They're human. They just have a different set of rules.
And above all, don't get sore with women and Brazil. They're great.
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Man, I am actually kind of shocked reading all these posts where you guys are saying this has either happened to you or someone you know. I knew it happened, but didn’t expect so many people to admit to it.
[QUOTE=Jake993] I had a chat with a Brazilian attorney friend of mine about your legal matter and (just like a typical lawyer) he says that without additional details he could never speculate on the merits of her case. However, all things being equal, she is in all likelihood launching a peremptory strike against any legal action you may be considering to take in the recovery of your $40k clams. He went on to say that while legal fees to clear you name may well exceed the value of the money lost, there's no guarantee that you will be any further ahead than if you do nothing. His advice was to lay low and stay under the radar. No judge wants to be associated with a case like this and the only people who have ANYTHING to gain is the lawyers. Don't throw good money after bad.[/QUOTE]Jake,
That is a really interesting comment you and your friend made. I occasionally exchange messages with one of her friends in Brazil. Sometimes I feed this girl info that I know will get back to my perp. I knew this girl had traveled to Italy to work as a prostitute and possibly to other countries in Europe as well. About 4 weeks ago I received a message from someone in the US who said she was ‘working’ in the US and he had seen her. I sent him 10 photos and he came back and said, yep, that’s definitely her. Now, if she wants to sell her ass in Brazil, there is nothing I can do about that. But after all this, if she thinks for one minute that she is going to shit in my backyard, she’s dreaming. I sent a message to her friend about some other things and mentioned I believed I had located her and if my information was correct, she would soon be in jail. 4 days later I received an e-mail from her attorney outlining the charges against me. I never really thought about a ‘preemptive strike’ but yes, that is probably spot on.
As far as laying low, I’d prefer not to do that. I love Brazil and want to continue to travel there. I’m fighting it and have a good chance of having it thrown out before it goes to trial. One attorney told me there is a process there called ‘excessão da verdade’ that they use to have cases dismissed. I believe that translates to something like ‘in excess of the truth’ but I’m not sure how it applies in a legal sense.
I have a lot of information I saved from my time with her (obrigado para Dues) that supports my statements that she is a prostitute. I’m not going to write too much here in the event her attorney is a monger and reads this forum! I’ve already told him I have more than enough information to back up my statements about her. I want to clear my name, but if I am not 100% certain I will receive a fair trial, no more trips to Brazil. That honestly would be a great loss in my life. The country and people are fantastic, but I hear the prisons are not.
El Austriaco I have not been served any papers. Yet. Her attorney sent me an e-mail with the case number and I went into the website in Brazil and looked it up; it’s legit. I had a hell of a time navigating a legal website in Portuguese, but I found the document. My Portuguese is what I call ‘conversational’ and I am having to learn new words. The legal document was sent to Interpol on April 6th and I expect to see it soon. But it is just the original court document, which I have already viewed online. I’m sure it is a formality that they have to deliver this and have me acknowledge receipt.
David68 I did read the forum extensively and knew about the girls having multiple boyfriends. That’s one of the things that makes what happened to me more exasperating. If you want me to describe my reason for attempting a relationship with her anyway, the only thing I can tell you is that I was stupid. I’m not stupid about other things in life, but I was definitely stupid with her. If there were a law against being stupid in Brazil, I’d be in prison for the rest of my life. I always considered myself a good judge of character, but now I know that needs some work. I am ashamed that I allowed someone to con me so badly. I don’t take your remarks as insensitive at all. I fucked up, what can I say?
Euro Before I started to comment on here I test googled any info that I had revealed either now or in my prior post. I did not turn up any info about her site and proceeded with my post. I just tried to PM you but it apparently requires a subscription, which I do not have. I would really like to know how you found it so I can try to defeat others from finding it. Random strangers’ reading that site was never my intent. Since I cannot PM you, I would appreciate it if you would click on the link for ‘comments’. It will give you an e-mail address to send me a message. Unfortunately, it takes my posts about 24 hours to appear, so I’m sure there will have been a run on attempts to find the site. That, I regret. I appreciate you not posting any more info here, thank you.
I know the site can be traced to me. I’ve admitted it to her attorney, in so many words. He knows I control it. Listen, I’m not proud of that site. It was never meant to cause harm to her, although I know it probably has. The sole purpose of the site is to warn others about her. And honestly, if you met her you would never believe one word I say. . Until she takes your money and runs. This is how she makes a living and she may be one of the best at this particular game. She was rolling an Italian guy before me, then she got me and when I finally figured out what was really going on, she simply moved on to another guy. If she were just prostituting herself, I would have nothing to say about her. I view prostitution as a transaction; two people negotiate a dollar amount for services provided and that’s it. You both know what is expected of the other person. But when someone feigns a relationship for the sole purpose of extracting money, then that to me is theft by deception. Does my site go too far? I don’t think so because it is factual. But it is extreme, that I will admit. I had posted a few hours before this that my intent on the site was to prevent other men from being taken in as I was. There are many sites that list volumes of scammers, but it can be hard to find one individual in all the data that is out there. This site circumvents that by being solely about her. If you know her name (or are Euro100) you can find info on her.
I want to tell you the last 2 incidents that occurred with her. This admission will clearly make me the ‘Dumber’ part of D&D, but with Euro’s comments, it is something I want to reveal. It’s just a glimpse of what she did to me, although they are probably the 2 most egregious acts. Some of this will be written as though I was aware of it at the time, but I actually did not learn about what happened in these 2 incidents until 3 or 4 months after they occurred. I’m just going to write it this way to shorten the story
I wrote about me traveling to Rio for my birthday. Well, about 4 days before I flew to Brazil for my b-day, she sent me a message and asked me for money, telling me she "didn’t have even one centavo. " I wired her $1, 000. She flew to Italy the next day.
So, when I tell her I knew she was really in Italy instead of Minas Gerais with her ‘sick’ sister, she waited almost 2 weeks to write to me. When she did, she wrote what appeared to be a sincere apology. She told me she wanted the opportunity to explain what happened. I was still in Rio when she returned and I met with her for about 2 hours. She again apologized profusely and told me she did not want to hurt me and that this Italian guy had offered to help her finish the construction on her mothers house ($10, 000 USD) and that once that was done, she was done with him and out of the biz. She encouraged me to think about our relationship again. I left Brazil and we exchanged messages for maybe 3 or 4 months. I had received a wake up call when I learned she went to Italy and told her I could not have a relationship with a prostitute. She said she understood and wanted to change. Our e-mails went from 1 every 3 or 4 weeks up to maybe 1 every 3 or 4 days. She told me she was giving what I told her a lot of thought. Then she wrote me a message and told me her brother had been severely electrocuted and was in the hospital in need of urgent care. ‘Dumber’ wires her $1, 000 USD. Four days later, she boarded a plane to Italy on her 1 year contract and I never heard from her again. No goodbyes, fuck you's, not a word. Just disappeared.
I know what I did was stupid, no doubt about it. But one person being stupid does not give someone else the right to steal from them.
Mr. Bond I left the door open for the last 20 months for her to talk. I hate what she did to me, but I do not hate her. Believe it or not, I still feel some compassion for the woman. It is easy for Americans to judge actions like this when our economic opportunities are so much better here. Having a difficult life is not a reason to steal from others, but it makes it more understandable why she would do it as everyone wants a better life. I grew up with little money, but I decided to make an honest living. It has taken me a long time to achieve a measure of success, but the opportunities in the US provided a way for me to do that. She didn’t have those same opportunities so she made her own. The prostitution I accept; the theft I do not.
The truth is that up until she filed these criminal charges against me, I would have settled for a sincere apology if it were accompanied by a truthful explanation. If she had offered that, the site would have been shut down. Now with this legal action, it is going to be impossible for me to accept an apology.
Lorenzo, thanks for your comments. And you’re right. I consider her the person who is responsible for all this. My experience has made me stronger, but probably different as well. I don’t allow people to get too far into my life now, but that can also have a detrimental effect as I spend most of my time alone. But I’m focusing on ‘me’ now and that is a good thing. I was just kind of rolling through life having a great time and now I am focusing on putting money in the bank for my future. Some day I’ll break out of this funk and I’ll at least have some money to enjoy myself with. I just hope I can continue to travel to Rio.
Thanks to all for your comments. Makes me feel a little better that I’m not the only dumb guy in the world.
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[QUOTE=Bravo]After reading this, maybe I really should consider giving it a try. I just got laid off from my job and I am headed to Rio for the next couple of months anyway. I should really look into what it takes to open this type of business.
One thing I know for sure, I am sure most Americans would feel more much comfortable dealing with another American instead of a brasilian man. I wouldnt be surprised in the least to find out that a bunch of the brasilian PIs are cutting a side deal (either for money or pussy) from the GDP, they are supposed to be tracking.
Side note. In the past couple of years, I have already helped about 6 different guys with this same problem. Guys from different boards who knew I was headed to brasil, next thing i know, i get a PM asking "Can you tell me if you see this girl in Help or MP". I have probably saved them tens of thousands of dollars by letting them know that their girl is still working .[/QUOTE]
Good idea!
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Dumb N Dumber,thank you for your very clarifying post. I am sorry to know you had such a bad experience.
I use to say that I always pay girls AFTER the service because actually I am paying them to LEAVE.
This is THE rule.
This girls are providers and they always should be considered that way!!! No exeptions!!!
The page you made about this girl is very easy to find, I have read it and made some consultations with my lawyer who also read it.
There are a few things that play against you in the way you state things: you state that she "robbed" you, and that is unaccurate as per your post.
She cheat you, but "robbing" implies some positice actions on her side that she didn't execute. Per your post I understand that you gave her the money with no cohersion or violence on her side. You also mention the word "stealing money".
Then you state: "I managed to read her e-mail account..," be aware that reading other person mail (paper or electronic) is a violation of law!
My lawyer says that this girl has nothing against you if this web page is the only thing she can use as proof.
In the remote case she goes to Justice and things go on (very low possibility) his advice is that the first and only thing to do is to claim jurisdiction.
This means that the web page is not stored or hosted on a Brazilian place (something that we are assuming as it doesnt end with .br) so there is no way to determine where the crime, if any, was commited.
If the server where the page is hosted is in the US, your beloved prostitute will need to initiate legal actions in the US.
Also he advised to delete that page ASAP.
Fell free to PM me (in portuguese if you want), my lawyer is also a monger will feel very happy to help (at no cost).
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[quote=dumb n dumber]according to the pi that i spoke with, he does a good business there and a lot of comes from gringos with gdp girlfriends. i doubt he is rolling in cash, but i would bet he makes a comfortable living. i did pay him for a few hours of work and i can’t remember what it cost me but it was reasonable. i also remember it was well above what a brazilian would normally earn though.
someone asked my nationality and i am a us citizen. from the gdp’s i have talked to, americans are the #1 suckers, followed closely by the italians, but no nationality is exempt. i eventually found a list of e-mail addresses of men this girl was corresponding with and there were about 20 names on it; 50% from italy, maybe 30% from the us, 1 guy from mexico and the rest were rep001tered across europe. she seemed to have a preference for italian guys.
carrib, i am not sure about the statute of limitations in brazil, but in my case, charges have been filed, so it does not matter. if i enter brazil 20 years from now, i could be detained. i am in the process of retaining an attorney right now, as i want to have the charges thrown out. i have more than enough evidence to prove my statements about her are true and therefore not slander. but the charges were filed in brazil and she is brazilian and i am not. i doubt i would receive a 100% fair trial there, but i am pushing forward to defend myself anyway. one attorney told me it is possible to have charges dismissed prior to trial, so i am hoping for that. at a minimum, it will cost me $4,000 usd to have investigative work done and a motion filed to dismiss. if that doesn’t work though, it will take a lot more work and money to make this go away. i have spoken with someone at the department of state and he told me (strictly off record) that this is not an offense that would normally be considered grounds for extradition.
i have thought about just blowing this off but i really love brazil and want to continue to travel there. i’ve been in 20 to 25 different countries in asia, europe, africa, south america and central america, but i have never been to a place that i loved so much as brazil. from my first trip there, i fell in love with brazil and it had nothing to do with the gdp’s. my trips there were never about gdp’s. the scenery in brazil is stunning and the people are friendly. i never attempted to learn a foreign language until i went to brazil, and now i can speak portuguese, albeit barely. i can hold a conversation in portuguese and for anyone else that can do the same, you know this makes an enormous difference in how you are accepted there by regular citizens.
the point of my post was that you need to be careful with everything you do in brazil and elsewhere. this may be a hobby to the men who travel there, but it is a business for the gdp’s. while the vast majority of the gdp’s would not go so far as to file charges against you if there ends up being a conflict (or just for the hell of it), anything is possible. this hobby may be like playing russian roulette with a gun that holds 1,000 rounds. many men have written in this forum about problems with gdp’s and the police being summoned. just based on that, i guess the possibility always exists that she could file charges, baseless or not. more than likely though, if you have an issue with the gdp it will be over money and you are more than likely going to have to deal with the favela boys. personally, i’d rather deal with the police.
mr. bond, i know that all women are not the same, but because of this one experience, i am more cautious about who i allow into my life, even if only for a moment and this pretty much rules out gdp’s. i view them in a completely different light now. since i can speak portuguese well enough, this has opened up doors with the regular girls in brazil anyway and there is no reason for me to have to deal with gdp’s. i know even a regular girl may try to roll me, but i think the chances of that happening are less likely.
dried up, you are right this could happen anywhere, but because the gdp’s there are affectionate and offer more of a gfe experience, the possibility of it happening in brazil may be higher. for me, it was not even a gfe experience with her; not initially and not at any time after she entered my life. the truth is, she wasn’t even that good in bed. i thought i saw other qualities in her and that is what appealed to me.
chingon, sorry, but at the moment, i don’t want to post her pic here. the website that has her photos and info about her can only be found if you know her name. if someone else were to become personally involved with her, she would have to reveal her real name at some point to receive western union transfers or other financial transactions. i don’t know what other men do, but i always google names of people to see if there is any dirt on them. there are quite a few websites devoted to scammers and list the names of the girls in them. my point in having a website built specifically dedicated to her, was to insure the odds would be higher that someone could learn the truth about how she makes a living. although a website can be viewed by anyone in the world, the odds that anyone would see her site are astronomical unless you know her name.
so what you are saying is that because my income is above average that it makes it okay to target me for theft? i don’t agree with that and i do not deserve criminal charges against me. speaking the truth about someone, however hurtful, does not define slander. do you define what she did to me as hitting above the belt?
thanks to all that commented on this, including sperto. i’m not sure it warrants r.o. d. status but i hope it makes everyone think a little about how involved you get with a gdp. i have a friend recently who became involved with one and i tried to tell him to proceed cautiously. although she seemed like a really nice girl, he was spending a lot of money on her too soon into the relationship. he listened but disregarded and sure enough, a few months after he left brazil, she informed him she had become pregnant to another man. he’s a great guy and seemed to shrug it off, but i hope it did not cost him too much $$ or pain. even with all the warnings, there will still be a lot of guys who take the plunge. sure, it’s always possible it could work, but i want encourage everyone to go slowly. again, if you have to spend big bucks to stay in her life, you may be nothing more than a mark. i also wrote about meeting her family. a brazilian girl’s family is sacred; if you have met her family then you are truly part of her life. if not, proceed with extreme caution, because ahead, those ‘curves’ could be dangerous.
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do you have a pic of this girl?
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Thanks for the reminder
D&D thanks for the reminder that when in fantasy land remember it is fantasy land.
I understand your anger and hurt at being played. It happens almost everyone at some point in ways small and large.
It's good to remind others but your website devoted to her is probably what set her off. All she had to do was Google her name and she would find it. And it is still there.
If family or friends happened to Google her name she had some explaining to do about a lifestyle they many not know about.
As it was pointed out in early posts, it not hard to find, even if you don't know her name. And I would follow the earlier advice, and attempt to remove all traces of this from the web.
I wish you luck, and I hope she really didn't file charges against you. She has no case, not matter what a lawyer tells you. Your posts are truthful. She is probably threatening so you will take down the site.
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[QUOTE=Euro100]D&D, you can PM me, and I can explain to you how I found your information. Hopefully, this will help you to erase all traces leading to the girl and leading to you. Obviously, I do not want to post the details here.[/QUOTE]Euro, this was my first attempt at building a site, so I don’t know much about it. There is a way to insert hidden ‘keywords’ in your page content for search engines to pick up on when they crawl the web. I didn’t remember inserting anything specific, but I opened the site using the software I made the site with to check out what I did. I had zero keywords for the search engines, so there is nothing I can do to prevent people in ISG from searching for it. The search engines are picking up on words in the site content. I will assume that is what you were implying when you said trace content. This is an unintended development from my posts.
I can see where quite a few people have searched for the page using info gleaned from ISG, including someone in Jacksons neighborhood. Damn you guys are curious. I hope this fades as my posts become more dated.
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[QUOTE=Dwilso39]Do you have a pic of this girl?[/QUOTE]
Once again, Euro100 found one quickly (as did I.) I vacillated about joining in this discussion, but would ultimately agree with Euro100. Taking the website down ASAP would be the wisest course of action-- not because it defames the girl (I don't think that it does), but rather for reasons I don't want to go into here. My guess is that at this point, most everyone who should know about her already does. Those who don't and need to will find out another way, I'm sure.
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[QUOTE=Dwilso39]Do you have a pic of this girl?[/QUOTE]
There are multiple pictures of this woman on the website that D&D made about her. The problem is, it is still hard to ID the girl in question with the pictures posted of her, because in all but one photo she is wearing large sunglasses, and in the other photo she has her eyes closed and doesn't even really look like the woman in the photos with sunglasses. Very odd.
After viewing the website that D&D made, something about this story doesn't seem right, but I can't quite put my finger on what it is.
D&D, you said in your posts here that you "spent" $40k on this woman, but then on your website you say she "robbed" you of $40K, so which is it, did she steal the money from you or did you spend it on her in the form of gifts, house payments, airline tickets, etc??? I don't think volunteering to pay someones bills (as you put it in post #8668) counts as them stealing from you? You even call her a "thief" on the photos section of your website, but again, what did she actually steal from you?? Besides your pride, of course.
After seeing your website, I can't blame her for filing charges against you for slander. Then again, I'm not sure what to believe of your story.
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[QUOTE=Euro100]With a little Google knowledge you can trace down the website that D&D made "in honor" of the girl. (took me less than 30 seconds). On the front page there is a nice pic of her, and then there are 5 more on a second page.[/QUOTE]
I found it too, maybe not in 30 seconds, but in about 2 minutes. I won't post a link here lest I incur the wrath of all the would-be Sir Lancelots on this thread, but anyone can find it with a little effort. Clue: read Dumn N Dumber's first post.
Dum N Dumber: at least you got some very nice, but costly, pussy.
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Damn I just found the webpage, you really put her out there.
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[QUOTE=Monger Man]Once again, Euro100 found one quickly (as did I.) I vacillated about joining in this discussion, but would ultimately agree with Euro100. Taking the website down ASAP would be the wisest course of action-- not because it defames the girl (I don't think that it does), but rather for reasons I don't want to go into here. My guess is that at this point, most everyone who should know about her already does. Those who don't and need to will find out another way, I'm sure.[/QUOTE]
i stil can't find it
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[QUOTE=Ezinho]
After viewing the website that D&D made, something about this story doesn't seem right, but I can't quite put my finger on what it is.
D&D, you said in your posts here that you "spent" $40k on this woman, but then on your website you say she "robbed" you of $40K, so which is it, did she steal the money from you or did you spend it on her in the form of gifts, house payments, airline tickets, etc??? I don't think volunteering to pay someones bills (as you put it in post #8668) counts as them stealing from you? You even call her a "thief" on the photos section of your website, but again, what did she actually steal from you?? Besides your pride, of course.
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In D&D's defense. I understand where he is coming from and why he uses the term "robbed". When someone misleads you and fills your head with blatant lies, I completely understand why he feels the girl stole from him. By telling him that she loved him and promising a future life together when she knew all she was doing was milking him for cash, she is just as bad as a used car salesman.
I am glad he made a website devouted towards his experience, I wish we had a section on this site where we could out "The heart breakers".
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I should feel bad but I don't!
It is too bad that D&D had this bad experience. But, I can't help but think what did you think was going to happen?
The girls that we come in contact with, even the young sweet looking girls have experienced life at a hyper level. They have a different perspective on life than most women twice their age. They can not help but associate American and European men with money and nothing more. The Brazilian guys don't give them money like we do and they treat them like we treat women in our countries.
So why wouldn't a beautiful Brazilian woman who makes her money having sex with men try to get the most possible money from a man that is willing to give? Why wouldn't a woman ask for the world? It has always been my position that the women who make the most money make money NOT because they are beautiful but BECAUSE they give you the illuision that they love you. They know how to give the illiusion that they are having sex with you because she likes you and NOT because you agreed to her price.
This thing that we do can be great. But as D & D found out, if you don't treat it for what it really is you can dump a lot of good money after a REALLY bad investment!
[QUOTE=Bravo][QUOTE=Ezinho]
After viewing the website that D&D made, something about this story doesn't seem right, but I can't quite put my finger on what it is.
D&D, you said in your posts here that you "spent" $40k on this woman, but then on your website you say she "robbed" you of $40K, so which is it, did she steal the money from you or did you spend it on her in the form of gifts, house payments, airline tickets, etc? I don't think volunteering to pay someones bills (as you put it in post #8668) counts as them stealing from you? You even call her a "thief" on the photos section of your website, but again, what did she actually steal from you? Besides your pride, of course.
[QUOTE]In D&D's defense. I understand where he is coming from and why he uses the term "robbed". When someone misleads you and fills your head with blatant lies, I completely understand why he feels the girl stole from him. By telling him that she loved him and promising a future life together when she knew all she was doing was milking him for cash, she is just as bad as a used car salesman.
I am glad he made a website devouted towards his experience, I wish we had a section on this site where we could out "The heart breakers".[/QUOTE]
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Real bus from airport
Does anyone know the schedule for the bus that picks up at the airport & heads out to zona sul? Does it leave at a regular schedule or whenever they get a certain # of passengers? I'll be arrivng at 11am on a Sunday.
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Dumb N Dumber,
I just found the site you have created. You're one mean filho da p**a.
You have put out the girls name, her home city Ouro Preto (which is quite a small city), several photos of her and accuse her of theft, lying and cheating.
IMO the girl is doing the right thing charging a file against you.
[QUOTE=Dumb N Dumber]Speaking the truth about someone, however hurtful, does not define slander. Do you define what she did to me as hitting above the belt?[/QUOTE]
I have no doubt that she took advantage of you. We heard your story, but not hers. Who knows what happened during those 18 months? Maybe you didn't deserve her or mistreated her?
[QUOTE=Dumb N Dumber]I know what I did was stupid, no doubt about it. But one person being stupid does not give someone else the right to steal from them.[/QUOTE]
I wouldn't call it stealing. You gave the money to her. Accepting money from a fool isn't a theft.
[QUOTE=Dumb N Dumber]Believe it or not, I still feel some compassion for the woman.[/QUOTE]
Of course you do. That's why you created the site.
Why don't you put a photo of yourself on the site and your name as well?
[QUOTE=Dumb N Dumber]Euro, this was my first attempt at building a site, so I don’t know much about it. There is a way to insert hidden ‘keywords’ in your page content for search engines to pick up on when they crawl the web. I didn’t remember inserting anything specific, but I opened the site using the software I made the site with to check out what I did. I had zero keywords for the search engines, so there is nothing I can do to prevent people in ISG from searching for it...[/QUOTE]
"Zero keywords" on your site?
You should change your name to "Dumb N Lying".
The keywords on your site says: "prostituta ladra brasile brazil belo horizonte accompagnatrici rio de janeiro escort perugia umbria rochester thief prostitute sociopath".
BTW, what about Rochester?
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[QUOTE=Shemp]Does anyone know the schedule for the bus that picks up at the airport & heads out to zona sul? Does it leave at a regular schedule or whenever they get a certain # of passengers? I'll be arrivng at 11am on a Sunday.[/QUOTE]Bus service departs every 30 minutes, runs between both airports, and further to Zona Sul continuing to Barra da Tijuca.
I don't remember the exact amount of ticket cost, but is arrounf US$ 5.
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[QUOTE=Shemp]Does anyone know the schedule for the bus that picks up at the airport & heads out to zona sul? Does it leave at a regular schedule or whenever they get a certain # of passengers? I'll be arrivng at 11am on a Sunday.[/QUOTE]
Every half hour when I used them earlier this year. Schedule going back varies with traffic (though I'm told you can phone to see how far along the route they are). I think they tend to leave on the half hour or quarter hour from GIG but I'm not sure. Given the time variations with traffic, 15mins doesn't matter very much. No, they don't do the Indian trick of waiting for them to fill up.
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on Dumb stuff
No, don't get angry with Brasilian women -
a) it spoils your experience even further - much further
b) you won't win
c) it's like a big sign advertising how dumb you've been
The idea of a PI agency for gringos has a major flaw. Paying someone to kill you when you are investigating is just too cheap. And no-one is going to help a gringo PI against a tightly knit community.
If someone screws you, my own attitude it let honest people know - subtlely and without accusations. Making accusations can get you in hot water and without getting any results. The best way to get money back is to convince them that they made an honest mistake (even when they didn't). Getting angry just destroys your street cred, especially if you don't get anywhere (ex-boxers excluded).
Example (from March this year) -
I'd been frequenting a particular casa at Mimosa. I'd been through most of the girls there that fitted the body-type I especially like and one or two of the others. I made it my base for a few weeks (in terms of drinking and hanging out inbetween sessioning there and in other casas) even though their bar prices were slightly higher. There were no jealousies. Excellent vibe, with all the girls and the people behind the bar. Several of the girls were well chuffed that I gave them some carnaval photos of their favourite school.
One girl in particular had a great chemistry with me. One one occasion she comes twice (which I put down to her skill rather than just me being nice). When they wind her up about running way over time, and ask if she was enjoying herself, she gives an emphatic 'yes' so we will be left in peace.
Except the bar person had recently changed. Friendly girl but, no doubt about it, a big fat dyke. That night, it comes on to downpour. About 2 or 3am I decide to make a run for it to Praca Bandeira. I wave goodnight as I pass the casa, as was my usual. Fat dyke woman comes after me with a big smile saying I've forgotten to pay for some drink. I don't think I have, but it's pelting down and I'm getting drenched, so I think for the sake of 3R I don't care. No, she says, it was four drinks. I am pissed off but stuff an extra 10R into her hand to get away figuring I'll straighten it tomorrow.
Now I never run up a tab. Ever. I mostly consume soft drinks. I knew exactly how many drinks I'd bought, including one for a girl and one for fat dyke. I was wondering if someone had been cheeky and claimed I'd agreed to pay for drinks.
Next night, I take a pen and paper and list the drinks I had and when to fat dyke. She says I forgot to pay when I went for boom-boom. No way. Forgot to pay for which drinks? And, for someone who had been around for hours, in and out of the bar, she had never asked me to settle up till I left in the rain?? She didn't have an answer but stuck to her story. Moreover she told everyone of the girls in the bar. One of them tried to signal me, but it was obvious there was no way they were allowed to disagree.
I left it a few days. I figured, I'm well liked and respected there. I have never given any reason to think that I would chisel them for 12R. Dyke girl is new. Who do they really believe?
A week later, dyke girl is gone for good. [color=gray](Straightforward business sense?)[/color]
Another example (for those of you who read of how I got robbbed - yes robbed, not beguiled into GIVING someone money). I went back to the casa with a stern face and asked after the girl I believed responsible. She wasn't there. I said to the other girls that she was a big safada, but it was obvious from my expression that I meant something else. I asked the casa number and asked who worked there regularly. I repeated my comments to her face when she returned. She gave an unconvincing performance of not knowing what I was talking about. But I think everyone else did.
Believe me, I've tried other tactics. Even another Brasilian who is not a carioca would likely be up against it if they accused a local. If you've got a lot of friends and a lot of money, you can maybe - just maybe - get locals to do something [i]for you[/i] if they are convinced by hard evidence and morally outraged. At best, I've had a doorman 'negotiate' a middle figure when I got into an argument with some Karla duplas over taxi money due. Brasilians like resolutions where everybody stays at least a little bit happy. Bondjamesbond gave excellent advice.
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Dumb n' Dumber - and even Dumber
If your story is true, sorry but you are a fool twice over: Firstly for being fucked over by the girl for 18 months, and secondly for trying to get revenge publicly on the website you created to 'out' her - which will fuck you over for the rest of your life.
PS - a quick search shows you made a similar post nearly a year ago. Hmmm.
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Escort Agency
I contacted the escort agency [url]http://www.viprj.com.br/[/url] to ask how much their girls were and this was their reply:
"The rates are so diferent, we have girls for R$600,00; R$1.000,00; R$2.000,00 depend on the ladies and the services."
That seems super expensive! Is this the norm for Brazil?
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[QUOTE=Christopherd]
The idea of a PI agency for gringos has a major flaw. Paying someone to kill you when you are investigating is just too cheap. And no-one is going to help a gringo PI against a tightly knit community.
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This is funny, I was just talking about this with a Rio veteran. He said the biggest problem would be people selling me out to the garotas. I wouldnt be surprised if the guy who paid me to find out about his girl would go back and tell her exactly who he paid to trail her.
My friend and I were trying to figure out the best way to get around this problem. How could I do the work clandestine from both the GDP and the paying customer? Maybe hire a secretary or a middle man, so the monger never meets me directly.
Right now I am still in the brain storming aspect, but i truly believe that this would be a very lucrative business. There must be dozens if not hundreds of guys from all over the world, who are sending money to a GDP in brasil. Like I said before, I have already helped 6 different guys with thier GDPS, thats 10 Grand I could have made!!!
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[QUOTE=Dumb N Dumber]Damn you guys are curious. I hope this fades as my posts become more dated.[/QUOTE]What the fuck! You posted your info for a purpose, right. You wanted to put her on blast and now you'e whining because the forum is curious. I think you are a professional victim and naive person. You gave the garota gifts, and she would've been a fool not to take them. Lesson, "For every action, there my be an opposite and equal reaction. " The givers and the takers.
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Another view
Long time lurker, thought I'd add my two cents. I saw the site as well.
First off, sorry you had to go through that DD. That really sucks. I hope you don't get too jaded from this experience, chalk it up as a learning experience. In the big picture, you made out good. You lost 40 large, but it sounds like you're doing pretty well if you've traveled to over 25 countries and can afford to drop 40k like that. 40k is a lot of cash, but at the same time, it's just money. How many months does it take you to make 40k? Two months? Four months? You get the idea. You came out of this with no marriage, no kids, a lot wiser. Can you imagine if she was just a bit savvier and you never found out and the married her one day? You'd be looking at a lot more than 40k, I think. It sounds like it may cost you to go back to Brazil in the future, but that's not that big of a deal IMO. Like someone else advised, lay low for a while.
It is my opinion DD was really emotionally invested. Think about it. Why would he drop 40k, why would he put out this site that doesn't help him, can only hurt him (which is exactly what happened). It's one thing to drop 2-3k on a chick, fly back to see her, then find out after 3-6 months. 18 months, 40k. That is definitely harsher IMO. With that being said, DD, just a thought. How does what happened to you any different from a man marrying a woman, giving his wife everything emotionally and financially for 20 years, then find out she was cheating on him, then her taking half of all his assets and half of all his future earnings? When put in that context, it's not THAT bad. You'll be okay.
There have been a few posts lately where the actions of DD have been met with disdain. Personally, I don't think there's a right and wrong here, it comes down to what your philosophy/worldview is toward what the girl did. Many (probably most) would view her actions as nothing to write home about really. She didn't break any laws, she certainly didn't rob him. She did what all the GDPs do, she told him what he wanted to hear, lied to him, etc etc. This happens all the time, maybe not to the tune of 40k, but you get my point.
A few others may believe what she did to string him a long for that much and for that long was extremely unethical. Reading over that last sentence is in many ways comical. Talking about ethical standards when it comes to GDPs and money. It makes me think of a comment I heard from a girl I met at a hostess club. We became friends and I asked her one day why she lies so much about everything. She exclaimed, "How could I make any money if I didn't lie? " It's not the same thing, but you get my point I hope.
In some ways, what happened to DD is no different from meeting someone who pitches a business venture to you. You end up giving him 40k cash with no written contract within the first week or month you meet him. It turns out to be a total scam, and he takes off. He didn't break any laws, he didn't 'steal' your money, he snookered you, period. Is he to blame for being so callous or are you to blame for being so dumb? IMO, I think what DD went through is way more painful because he was emotionally involved. Hence the website. Hurt, which manifests itself into anger. I truly believed DD really cared and loved her really invested his heart into her. After all, if he didn't really care about her and she was a just another b*tch, I don't think he would have put that site up. It could only hurt him more. Personally, when a man is this hurt, I make concessions to him. It definitely wasn't smart for him to put that site up, but when you're hurt that bad, sometimes you just stop thinking rationally and just want retribution.
I know most of you will disagree with me, but I have no sympathy for that girl. What she did was, although standard protocol in the P4P world, is still deplorable. I'm not saying I wouldn't do that if I was her. Hell if I grew up like her in her environment I'm sure I would have done the same thing. In that sense it's not fair for me to judge her since I didn't grow up and experience the things she went through to make her the person she is today. But I will say this. She deserved whatever is coming to her. She f*cks with a guy to this extent, no sh*t if he is a man with any kind of pride or has any kind of ego he will lash out. Because of her actions, any dude she dates or marries in the future, gringo or not, if someone googles her name, they will learn she is a p*ta. If any of your family googles your name, if your kid googles your name, they will all learn you are a p*ta. She made her bed and will have to sleep in it. For many, this is not fair for her. For me personally, she deserves it 100% for playing him like that.
Again, I understand most of you think she did nothing wrong. I'm just saying treat people the way you want to be treated, with respect and decency. If you mistreat someone, and you're mistreated back, you had it coming. Just like DD had it coming when he was dumb enough to pony up with that much dough, she too had it coming with her deception.
Sorry this post was this long. I was in Rio a month ago, will be going back later this year. Thank you everybody for all the posts, it definitely has been a learning experience.
PS DD. If you really love Brazil that much, you should think about (I'm not saying to do it) making a deal with her or her attorney where you agree to take down the site if she drops all charges. That site, which was the cause of all these legal problems, may ironically also be your way out of this mess. As I mentioned earlier, if the site stays up, anytime anyone googles her name (boyfriends, husband, family, kids), they will learn she is a pu*a. For the rest of her life. She should realize the ramifications of this and if she was smart, she would agree to your proposition. If you really want to play hardball, part of the agreement would be for her to send you a check for the little time your attorney spent/charged you to write up this settlement.
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Amazing!
D&D,
Just because we are all engaged in this conversation in no way means that I am entitled to lecture you.
Now that I have that lie out of the way, let me begin my lecture.
After rushing home from work to read the next chapter in this soap opera I was not dissapointed. Very interesting reading, and by your writing I can assume you are somewhat booksmart. But don; t you think that maybe this has spun out of control? You may have legal issues in a foreign country. I would be doing some serious introspection if I was ever in the position where I could not enter a certain country for fear of legal action.
Now that website. What are the actual chances that it would actually benefit someone other you help you assuage your anger? No one is going to randomly stumble on that site and say "Oh my god! There she is! "
I am actually surprised by the number of guys here who said they have been takin also. Damn. This was like the day I found out there was no Santa Clause.
Anyway, I would never defend a puta who took advantage of someone. No matter what her circumstances. Right is right. But by going over the top you have sucessfully turned the villain into the victim, and vice versa. (not in my eyes though) Close that chapter of your life and look at it as a VERY expensive lesson.
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More Money, Than Brains
[QUOTE=Piper1]If your story is true, sorry but you are a fool twice over: Firstly for being fucked over by the girl for 18 months, and secondly for trying to get revenge publicly on the website you created to 'out' her - which will fuck you over for the rest of your life.
PS - a quick search shows you made a similar post nearly a year ago. Hmmm.[/QUOTE]
When I first read Dumb N Dumber’s report I did the same thing as you. I checked his first post. Something about the story struck me as odd.
[QUOTE=Dumb N Dumber]
I have been trying to figure out a way to learn who this man is and warn him. He is about to get taken for the ride of his life. But all I know is that he is a man from Italy. When I left Rio a few days ago, I noticed there are many Italians there right now. I’m hoping someone may know this man and have a way to contact him and warn him. I have a detective trying to learn his identity right now and it is possible I have a lead. But I won’t know for 3 to 10 days. [/QUOTE]
Who goes to the extreme of hiring a detective to hunt down another man living in another country just to warn him about a prostitute? Gee, what a nice guy you are.
[QUOTE=Dumb N Dumber] Random strangers’ reading that site was never my intent. [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Dumb N Dumber]I can see where quite a few people have searched for the page using info gleaned from ISG, including someone in Jacksons neighborhood. Damn you guys are curious. I hope this fades as my posts become more dated.[/QUOTE]
You went through the time, effort and expense of purchasing a domain, host account and building a website with photos and all. You post your experience here on ISG and you are now surprised guys are finding and reading the website? I mean wasn’t that your purpose for creating the website?
I must agree with Sperto, Piper1, Ezinho & Euro100. I also found your website dedicated to this women. Small wonder she is suing you. If this story is true, I understand the pain she caused you by stealing you heart, but the money you gave to her.
[QUOTE=Ezinho]There are multiple pictures of this woman on the website that D&D made about her. The problem is, it is still hard to ID the girl in question with the pictures posted of her, because in all but one photo she is wearing large sunglasses, and in the other photo she has her eyes closed and doesn't even really look like the woman in the photos with sunglasses. Very odd.
After viewing the website that D&D made, something about this story doesn't seem right, but I can't quite put my finger on what it is.
D&D, you said in your posts here that you "spent" $40k on this woman, but then on your website you say she "robbed" you of $40K, so which is it, did she steal the money from you or did you spend it on her in the form of gifts, house payments, airline tickets, etc??? I don't think volunteering to pay someones bills (as you put it in post #8668) counts as them stealing from you? You even call her a "thief" on the photos section of your website, but again, what did she actually steal from you?? Besides your pride, of course.
After seeing your website, I can't blame her for filing charges against you for slander. Then again, I'm not sure what to believe of your story.[/QUOTE]
Ezinho, I couldn’t have said it better. D&D stated that this women took him for $40K. After things go bad he hired a detective to research her and some guy from Italy name Mario, so he could warn Mario about her. He created a website dedicated to her for wronging him where he states Mario was in the picture all along. He is now going to pay an attorney to represent him in a slander case, so he can continue to visit Brasil. All that and he didn’t think to buy a subscription to ISG to see if maybe someone has posted a photo of his love? Although it really doesn't matter since, he was aware she was a prostitute. All I can say is that he has more money than brains. He certainly picked an appropiate screen name.
Whether this story is true or not, one thing is for sure. It certainly made interesting reading. Probably would make a good movie.
RonnyRon
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[QUOTE=Sperto]Dumb N Dumber,
I just found the site you have created. You're one mean filho da p**a.
You have put out the girls name, her home city Ouro Preto (which is quite a small city), several photos of her and accuse her of theft, lying and cheating.
IMO the girl is doing the right thing charging a file against you.
I have no doubt that she took advantage of you. We heard your story, but not hers. Who knows what happened during those 18 months? Maybe you didn't deserve her or mistreated her?
I wouldn't call it stealing. You gave the money to her. Accepting money from a fool isn't a theft.
Of course you do. That's why you created the site.
Why don't you put a photo of yourself on the site and your name as well?
"Zero keywords" on your site?
You should change your name to "Dumb N Lying".
The keywords on your site says: "prostituta ladra brasile brazil belo horizonte accompagnatrici rio de janeiro escort perugia umbria rochester thief prostitute sociopath".
BTW, what about Rochester?[/QUOTE]
Is the site down?
I couldn't find the site.
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generous souls
We all know plenty of cases of generous patronage. Although most of us baffle at the naivety of some, there are plenty out there who know what their gdp namoradinhas do. A Montecarlo pro whose picture featured recently in the photo section enjoyed for over a year the weekly donations (1000e) of an italian donor to keep her off Help and restrict her activities to the terma. She did fulfill that end of the bargain but this did not stop her doing PFs (programa por fora) with Montecarlo clients every night. She received a call every night at 3 am from him to ensure she was home. I know this for a fact as on 4 separate occasions she had her mouth full when we listened to the sweet nothings of her "amore" on the speakerphone of her cellphone. She did have feelings for him though and never crossed her mind that she was betraying his trust. I (and the others) were just work. Their ethical standards are simply different.
One of the top girls at L uomo receives monthly payments from 3 latin donors. She is happily married to a local (on a minimum salary of 500r) who chooses to believe that wifey manages to pay for the building of a family home at Baixada on her nannie's salary.I am told her patrons know of her personal situation and somehow hope that she will leave hubbie to go an live with them in Italy
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[QUOTE=Madd Love]Is the site down?
I couldn't find the site.[/QUOTE]
Looks to be. Maybe Dumb N Dumber got Smart N Smarter? ;)
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@ Dumb & Dumber
D&D, I forgot that you are not a senior member and thus cannot receive or send PMs. I would suggest you shell out the $20 to buy senior membership on this site. This will enable you to send and get messages. After all the money you have spent to get into this mess, perhaps sending $20 to Jackson to help you get out of it is a good idea.
I see that you have made an attempt to remove your website, but you have not nearly been thorough enough. There is more for you to do, and you should do it fast ...
euro
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[QUOTE=Euro100]D&D, I forgot that you are not a senior member and thus cannot receive or send PMs. I would suggest you shell out the $20 to buy senior membership on this site. [/QUOTE]Or he can just use his real username instead. ;)
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Thanks to all
I hear all the criticism from some of you guys and it has given me some pause in this, but ultimately, I know I am right in my statements about her. There are really only 2 people on the planet that know all the details of what happened between this girl and myself. It is easy to criticize when you were not directly involved and when you do not know all of the facts. I don’t blame anyone that has written critically about my actions. I welcome the dialog and it does make me think about all this. Although I had tried to look at this from every conceivable angle before, your criticism and comments have given me some different perspectives and I find that helpful. And although there have been a few terse comments, you guys are at least keeping it civil and I respect, and am listening to your criticism because of that.
When I posted about this a few days ago, I just wanted to warn people to be very careful should they attempt a relationship with a GDP. I never expected this to turn into such a hot topic. I honestly figured most people would read my post and move on to the next one. It sounds as though a lot of you guys have been there and done that, but to those that haven’t, I hope this discussion will give them reason to proceed more cautiously should they think about getting involved with a GDP.
Because of all the unintended exposure, I have temporarily removed the site. It was never my intent to have people who are not directly involved in her life see the site. There were about 50 visitors to the site over the last 24 hours; normally it takes 6 months to see that type of traffic. As far as the keywords, they must have been in there somewhere, but when I looked at the site, I could not find them. I am an absolute novice at building WebPages, and I made quite a few copies. I know some of my attempts included keywords, but I honestly thought the one I published did not. I was wrong, obviously. I wasn’t trying to be deceptive; I just didn’t realize which ones were published. That was my mistake and I apologize for it.
Someone commented about her family seeing the site and becoming aware of her ‘work.’ Her family was well aware of her ‘work’ and I spoke with her mother and sister several times by phone regarding this. I talked to her mom and sis about trying to help get her out of it, but to no avail. Working in this manner seems to be somewhat acceptable to family members in Brazil. I doubt they like it any more than the GDP’s but it does help elevate their standard of living. It is hard to find fault with someone else’s ‘job’ when they are putting a roof over your head and food on your table. I said before, I understand why she ‘worked’ in this manner; she wanted a better future. But what she did to me falls way above prostitution.
[QUOTE=Bondjamesbond]Talk to her and tell her it doesn't make sense for you two to keep destroying each other. You can still do a lot of damage to her. And she knows it.
Don't spend more money with lawyers, try to evolve from this experience. GDPs in Brazil don't have an easy life. Don't treat them like scum. They're human. They just have a different set of rules.
And above all, don't get sore with women and Brazil. They're great.[/QUOTE]
Mr. Bond, I left the door open with her to discuss what happened for the entire time after she disappeared. The legal action in Brazil will complicate matters for us to resolve this ourselves, but it still may be possible. I wrote to her attorney and told him that although this may run through the courts in Brazil, ultimately there are only 2 people who can resolve this. You know any time lawyers get involved, all they do is complicate things. When I went through my divorce with my ex-wife, we discussed getting attorneys and decided to at least try to work out division of property between ourselves before we went to guns. We didn’t have kids, so that obviously made it a lot easier. We sat down over 2 days and crafted an agreement regarding our property, filed the divorce papers ourselves and both of us lived up to our agreement and then some. We are still friends to this day. I think it would have been a very different story if we had attorneys involved.
I don’t want to destroy her life. I doubt she intended to destroy mine either, but I don’t think she is capable of understanding how harmful her actions can be to others. I have given a great deal of thought about what happened to me and tried to understand why one person would harm another like this. I am only one person so I know this is only MY opinion, but based on what I saw her do to myself, the man before me and the man after me, she fits the definition of a sociopath to a ‘T’. But that is only my opinion and I know it.
Although this experience with her has caused a great deal of pain in my life, it has made me wiser and in some ways stronger person. I guess I was just lucky in my relationships before, even the ones that were just casual, and I just never encountered someone like her before. My relationships were what I would call normal; the occasional arguments, but nothing really heated. No one ever used me, at least to my knowledge. If they did, it would have had to have been on a level I never detected. I knew people like this existed, but I guess I just figured my lifestyle and the types of people I associated with kept me immune from harm. I never saw this coming. Now I realize I probably had either my guard down, or had none at all. It’s up full force now and will probably remain that way through the rest of my life. I no longer trust my ability to spot a human wrecking ball.
When she was involved in my life, I viewed her as no different from my mother or sister; I have mentioned that before. I think she despises the site but not me. I despise what she did to me, but not her, and I hope that someday she finds true happiness in her life. Despite what she did to me, there are some things that I admire about her. She has dedicated her life to taking care of her mother and she helps other family members as well. Her mom has some serious health problems and has been unable to work for the last few years. This girl essentially supported her mother completely, including buying land and building her a house. Although I wish she had found another way to get the money to do this, it is impossible to find fault in this and I have great admiration for her dedication to her family. If you remove how she obtained the money to help her mother, she is a role model for all daughters. How many people sacrifice their bodies and mind to help their families?
Mr. Bond, I love Brazil and have found non GDP’s to be very sweet in general. Brasileiras area SO much better than American women. But it is not just the women who are warm and friendly in Brazil. I’m shocked at how many guys (not gay) talk to me about my travels there, offer assistance if needed, and tell me to enjoy my stay. I love the Brazilian lifestyle. I joke with them about soccer being the #2 national pastime, right behind being late. That used to irritate the crap out of me when I first started traveling there, until I realized they were not being rude, the Brazilians just realize the world is not going to stop turning if they don’t show up on time. I love their casual approach to life and think there is a lot to be learned from it.
Gruhmbards, thanks for your advice and offer to help. The legal action has already been set in motion, but some of the advice you offered will need to be taken. I’ll explain in a PM, but super stuff from your advogado. And my PM will be in English, unless of course you need a good laugh. Give me some time to get back to you.
I’m going to try to refrain from commenting too much more about this. My original intent was to post a warning to others; not to expose her to the public and I am truly sorry that has happened. I appreciate everyone’s opinions and candor. I never intended this to turn into a discussion, but it has actually helped me gain new perspectives and that may eventually help bring this to a resolution.
Thanks to all.
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The easiest way to make 100k, is to get 10 dollars from 10k people. The best way to make 100k in brazil is to find 10 dumb gringos to give you 10k each. Remember that advice when she asks for money when your home. Spend money on her when your with these girls. Blow it all: movies shows concerts clubs. Thats the point, but never send money or outright give her a large sum when your there. I had a girl from 4x4 who loved to give me a rim job. God bless her heart. She was a sex hound. She could do things with her mouth that 3 of sperto's girls couldn't do at the same time. I spent money on her when I was at 44. I bought a big room. At least an hour everytime. We pigged out on food and drinks. Whatever she wanted. Red bull blue bull I didn't care. Anyway, when it was the last night, she was telling me how she needed money for her sick mother. She needed a operation. Blah blah. As sweet as this girl was- she tried. I can't blame her for trying to see if I would bite. I didn't give her anything. I enjoyed spending all that money on her at 44. I was glad she made extra money for the big room and the extra time. She gave great service. BUTwhen I'm home, you get nothing. Thats the rule. Follow the rule always.
FTR
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Need Help on Secluded Beach!!
My regular girl just told me that it has always been a fantasy of hers to fuck on a beach. I am assuming that since she shared that with me, she wants me to make that fantasy come true. Now I know there is no fucking way possible to have sex on Copa or Ipanema beach!!
I need suggestions from the board on where i can make this happen. I was thinking of Recreio because I know that beach is really deserted. However, neither one of us owns a car and I am kinda scared of getting stuck out there, since there are no cabs and the buses run sparingly.
I dont really want to have to travel all the way out to Buzios or Arraial, so i need ideas on a beach locally. Help me out fellas!! (maybe I should have posted this on the non GDP section)
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[QUOTE=Bravo]My regular girl just told me that it has always been a fantasy of hers to fuck on a beach. I am assuming that since she shared that with me, she wants me to make that fantasy come true. Now I know there is no fucking way possible to have sex on Copa or Ipanema beach!!
I need suggestions from the board on where i can make this happen. I was thinking of Recreio because I know that beach is really deserted. However, neither one of us owns a car and I am kinda scared of getting stuck out there, since there are no cabs and the buses run sparingly.
I dont really want to have to travel all the way out to Buzios or Arraial, so i need ideas on a beach locally. Help me out fellas!! (maybe I should have posted this on the non GDP section)[/QUOTE]You can Find the "blanket of invisibilty" on mount Olympus!!
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[QUOTE=Bravo]My regular girl just told me that it has always been a fantasy of hers to fuck on a beach. I am assuming that since she shared that with me, she wants me to make that fantasy come true. Now I know there is no fucking way possible to have sex on Copa or Ipanema beach!!
I need suggestions from the board on where i can make this happen. I was thinking of Recreio because I know that beach is really deserted. However, neither one of us owns a car and I am kinda scared of getting stuck out there, since there are no cabs and the buses run sparingly.
I dont really want to have to travel all the way out to Buzios or Arraial, so i need ideas on a beach locally. Help me out fellas!! (maybe I should have posted this on the non GDP section)[/QUOTE]
If you go to a secluded beach, you and your namorada will be sitting ducks for ladroes. Forget about it!
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[QUOTE=Bondjamesbond]Sorry but that's just one experience. Don't try to make a general rule out of your personal experience. I'm sure it hurts. I'm sure she didn't treat you fair. And have all my sympathy but.
Saying that all women are just the same, is not very different from saying that all GDP are are just the same. They are not. They are different. Believe me. I also have had my experiences.
In the end love, money and sex are very complex issues. There are no rules.[/QUOTE]I'm sorry to read your story man, but this is not an unique story. I have read several simular stories since I became a member here. I can just say. NEVER ever NEVER send money to GDP's. No matter how nice or how great sex you have, the majority of the GDP's are just like that. I say the majority. Not all. A friend have a simular experience, not the same but simular. And other friend at this forum once said. And I totally agree: you can take the girl from the street, but you can't take the street from the girl. I wish you luck and hope it works out for you.
Chicobarca
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@D&D
you really deserve what you got.
paying for 18months, not meeting her family, want to marry a gdb from brazil, from helpeee. omg.
from reading your posts, the story itsself, seeing the webpage and the aftermath. you say you had some contact afterwards and i think that you have pressured her at the end to whatever, perhaps a relation or giving back the money or a appology or just getting satisfaction by denouncing her infront of her friends, i don't know how long. you surley seem to be a drama queen, you started telling her friends and other gdp's what she did. and then she at a certain point reacted! filled a lawsuit agains you. and now you are afraid,
and then trusting other gdp and getting and submitting information through them to her and trying to reach out to her italian boyfriend/victim/whatever, hey, haven't your learned anything? and you say you are a smart businessman? what are you into? a ceo at gm?
man, forget the issue, contact her lawyer and find some common ground, where you and her can live in peace.
you can visit your beloved brazil
she can earn her money
sounds like a real divorce. war of the roses.
start a new life
regards,
vandeta
ps: this is for me just an example how you have to read through all posts and the judge. at first when i read d&d post, i felt sorry for him. after seeing his reactions i feel sorry for this garota. any information how to contact her? i really need to help this little *****!
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D and D, Let me also warn you about other scams. If somebody wants to buy something from you on the internet and offers you more than the asking price and he wants you to wire him the difference to nigeria, that is a scam. Really it is. Other scams. If someone promises you 100% on your money in a few months, that is also a scam. If a girl wants to marry you and won't sign a prenup because she believes in eternal love. She will take you for half. Remember these things for the rest of your life. If you have any other questions about scams, please feel free to post here and we will tell you yay or nay.
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For those of us who don't know
[QUOTE=Dumb N Dumber]I hear all the criticism from some of you guys and it has given me some pause in this, but ultimately, I know I am right in my statements about her. There are really only 2 people on the planet that know all the details of what happened between this girl and myself. It is easy to criticize when you were not directly involved and when you do not know all of the facts. I don’t blame anyone that has written critically about my actions. I welcome the dialog and it does make me think about all this. Although I had tried to look at this from every conceivable angle before, your criticism and comments have given me some different perspectives and I find that helpful. And although there have been a few terse comments, you guys are at least keeping it civil and I respect, and am listening to your criticism because of that.
When I posted about this a few days ago, I just wanted to warn people to be very careful should they attempt a relationship with a GDP. I never expected this to turn into such a hot topic. I honestly figured most people would read my post and move on to the next one. It sounds as though a lot of you guys have been there and done that, but to those that haven’t, I hope this discussion will give them reason to proceed more cautiously should they think about getting involved with a GDP.
Because of all the unintended exposure, I have temporarily removed the site. It was never my intent to have people who are not directly involved in her life see the site. There were about 50 visitors to the site over the last 24 hours; normally it takes 6 months to see that type of traffic. As far as the keywords, they must have been in there somewhere, but when I looked at the site, I could not find them. I am an absolute novice at building WebPages, and I made quite a few copies. I know some of my attempts included keywords, but I honestly thought the one I published did not. I was wrong, obviously. I wasn’t trying to be deceptive; I just didn’t realize which ones were published. That was my mistake and I apologize for it.
Someone commented about her family seeing the site and becoming aware of her ‘work.’ Her family was well aware of her ‘work’ and I spoke with her mother and sister several times by phone regarding this. I talked to her mom and sis about trying to help get her out of it, but to no avail. Working in this manner seems to be somewhat acceptable to family members in Brazil. I doubt they like it any more than the GDP’s but it does help elevate their standard of living. It is hard to find fault with someone else’s ‘job’ when they are putting a roof over your head and food on your table. I said before, I understand why she ‘worked’ in this manner; she wanted a better future. But what she did to me falls way above prostitution.
Mr. Bond, I left the door open with her to discuss what happened for the entire time after she disappeared. The legal action in Brazil will complicate matters for us to resolve this ourselves, but it still may be possible. I wrote to her attorney and told him that although this may run through the courts in Brazil, ultimately there are only 2 people who can resolve this. You know any time lawyers get involved, all they do is complicate things. When I went through my divorce with my ex-wife, we discussed getting attorneys and decided to at least try to work out division of property between ourselves before we went to guns. We didn’t have kids, so that obviously made it a lot easier. We sat down over 2 days and crafted an agreement regarding our property, filed the divorce papers ourselves and both of us lived up to our agreement and then some. We are still friends to this day. I think it would have been a very different story if we had attorneys involved.
I don’t want to destroy her life. I doubt she intended to destroy mine either, but I don’t think she is capable of understanding how harmful her actions can be to others. I have given a great deal of thought about what happened to me and tried to understand why one person would harm another like this. I am only one person so I know this is only MY opinion, but based on what I saw her do to myself, the man before me and the man after me, she fits the definition of a sociopath to a ‘T’. But that is only my opinion and I know it.
Although this experience with her has caused a great deal of pain in my life, it has made me wiser and in some ways stronger person. I guess I was just lucky in my relationships before, even the ones that were just casual, and I just never encountered someone like her before. My relationships were what I would call normal; the occasional arguments, but nothing really heated. No one ever used me, at least to my knowledge. If they did, it would have had to have been on a level I never detected. I knew people like this existed, but I guess I just figured my lifestyle and the types of people I associated with kept me immune from harm. I never saw this coming. Now I realize I probably had either my guard down, or had none at all. It’s up full force now and will probably remain that way through the rest of my life. I no longer trust my ability to spot a human wrecking ball.
When she was involved in my life, I viewed her as no different from my mother or sister; I have mentioned that before. I think she despises the site but not me. I despise what she did to me, but not her, and I hope that someday she finds true happiness in her life. Despite what she did to me, there are some things that I admire about her. She has dedicated her life to taking care of her mother and she helps other family members as well. Her mom has some serious health problems and has been unable to work for the last few years. This girl essentially supported her mother completely, including buying land and building her a house. Although I wish she had found another way to get the money to do this, it is impossible to find fault in this and I have great admiration for her dedication to her family. If you remove how she obtained the money to help her mother, she is a role model for all daughters. How many people sacrifice their bodies and mind to help their families?
Mr. Bond, I love Brazil and have found non GDP’s to be very sweet in general. Brasileiras area SO much better than American women. But it is not just the women who are warm and friendly in Brazil. I’m shocked at how many guys (not gay) talk to me about my travels there, offer assistance if needed, and tell me to enjoy my stay. I love the Brazilian lifestyle. I joke with them about soccer being the #2 national pastime, right behind being late. That used to irritate the crap out of me when I first started traveling there, until I realized they were not being rude, the Brazilians just realize the world is not going to stop turning if they don’t show up on time. I love their casual approach to life and think there is a lot to be learned from it.
Gruhmbards, thanks for your advice and offer to help. The legal action has already been set in motion, but some of the advice you offered will need to be taken. I’ll explain in a PM, but super stuff from your advogado. And my PM will be in English, unless of course you need a good laugh. Give me some time to get back to you.
I’m going to try to refrain from commenting too much more about this. My original intent was to post a warning to others; not to expose her to the public and I am truly sorry that has happened. I appreciate everyone’s opinions and candor. I never intended this to turn into a discussion, but it has actually helped me gain new perspectives and that may eventually help bring this to a resolution.
Thanks to all.
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Can someone please discribe this girl for the benefit of others?
Thanks
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[QUOTE=Dwilso39]Can someone please discribe this girl for the benefit of others?
Thanks[/QUOTE]
Why? What would be the point outside of curiousity? A ***** monger should not have gotten to the point where what happened to DnD would be an issue. If you stick to the rules of the game of P4P you shouldn't be concerned about who this girl is, unless you are a guy looking for a long term relationship with a GDP too.
Now if this were a case of her stealing from his apt, reneging on negotiated services or price, causing a scene or any P4P related problems than that info would be useful to mongers. But this guy stepped outside of the bounds of this game and got burned. Nothing to do with mongering IMHO. So no need to beware of anybody in this case. In fact if this girl is hot and provides good service at a reasonable price than I will give her a shot for a PROGRAMA. That is all we need to know in this case.
DnD it was good that you posted this story to remind others of the dangers of trying to turn a trick/***** relationship into something that it is not and usually cannot be. I won't get into whether what you did before and after was wrong, thats not my place. Nonetheless sorry to hear that it deteriorated to that point. Sometimes you got to learn the hard way I guess. Again with all the stories we hear and read about any monger with sense should know by now to stay away from this type of relationship and if you do decide to do so than proceed with caution and be ready for a possible negative outcome.
Anyways good luck on the final outcome of your case dude.
BTW no offense Dwilso39 just making a point.
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[QUOTE=Ee2002]Why? What would be the point outside of curiousity? A ***** monger should not have gotten to the point where what happened to DnD would be an issue. If you stick to the rules of the game of P4P you shouldn't be concerned about who this girl is, unless you are a guy looking for a long term relationship with a GDP too.
Now if this were a case of her stealing from his apt, reneging on negotiated services or price, causing a scene or any P4P related problems than that info would be useful to mongers. But this guy stepped outside of the bounds of this game and got burned. Nothing to do with mongering IMHO. So no need to beware of anybody in this case. In fact if this girl is hot and provides good service at a reasonable price than I will give her a shot for a PROGRAMA. That is all we need to know in this case.
DnD it was good that you posted this story to remind others of the dangers of trying to turn a trick/***** relationship into something that it is not and usually cannot be. I won't get into whether what you did before and after was wrong, thats not my place. Nonetheless sorry to hear that it deteriorated to that point. Sometimes you got to learn the hard way I guess. Again with all the stories we hear and read about any monger with sense should know by now to stay away from this type of relationship and if you do decide to do so than proceed with caution and be ready for a possible negative outcome.
Anyways good luck on the final outcome of your case dude.
BTW no offense Dwilso39 just making a point.[/QUOTE]
You are very right about this, no need to know who this girl is, unless someone is looking to fall in love.....
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Interesting discussion. I think it's okay to partially help out a GdP or two if you have that kind of money to burn and want to be nice/generous. But you need to be able to face certain realities head on.
First of all, don't expect any kind of philanthropy reward for being generous to hookers.
Second, if you think you can buy a woman's loyalty or love, you're a fool. It's almost a law of human psychology that the more you try to do that, the more she will resent it and try to sabotage/betray you.
Third and most important, you MUST accept that you're NOT the only man in her current sex life. Never have been, never will be. Most men can't deal with that, particularly American men.
There's a lot of guys out there who dabble in mongering but have never really come to terms with it. These guys have misgivings with the fact they paid for sex, that they are involved with women who are not conventionally "virtuous," so they try to convert a fling with a GdP to something "deeper" to try to justify it to themselves. They don't want to see themselves as some kind of lowlife monger. On the contrary, in their minds, the GdP becomes a woman they can rescue or make "virtuous."
Inevitably, they fall into trouble if not outright disaster.
If I was in Dumber's situation, by living in Brazil for awhile and seeing this girl frequently, that would bring the chances of infidelity down to 50%.
But if I'm only seeing a GdP or "semi-pro" during occasional visits to Brazil, then it's 99% sure she's screwing at least one local guy and at least one other foreigner. Anyone who thinks otherwise is just a naive fool.
I'm a pretty selfish egoistic guy when it comes to my discretionary income, and I don't make all that much anyway. But if I did make more money, I might help out a certain GdP now and then with her needs as long as they were legit. I'm not going to fund a shopping spree so she can wear the latest fashions for all her other lovers to enjoy. But if she needed to pay for a home repair or for a kid's education bill, I would gladly help her out with that, as long as I was ABSOLUTELY CERTAIN that's where the money was really going.
Also, if she really needs more money, that's when you can negotiate for more sex, or bareback, or dupla, or swing club, etc.
However, if you're sending the money from afar, you're likely setting yourself up for bigger and bigger scams.
I have wired money in the past to a couple of non-pros and semi-pros I dated in Bogota and Havana, but never more than $100 and never twice to the same girl. I would recommend sticking to that plan and as the dog whisperer would say, laying down "rules, boundaries, and limitations" with these chicas when it comes to money from afar.
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About D&D, *****s and legal shit in Brasil
First of all what D&D did is just fine by me. As much its his fault that he got screwed (by all means) we should not accept this from the GDPs.
Second, do not worry about law suit in Brasil. There is no way they can get you to court. What you've done is nothing. If you worry thay they have reported you to PF in Rio, just come to the country through Sao Paulo next time. They do not have any connection of databases in Brasil.
Third, if you get "caucht" and they want you to show up in court of law in Brasil just run. There is no law nor justice here. In brasilian justice system the judge is the one who makes the call, no matter what law says. Anyone can imagine what happens when there is brasilian girl vs. gringo..... Can't win.
One thing I can agree with everybody, just learn from this mistake and remember that girlfriend/wife will cost you way more than a GDP.
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[QUOTE=Perkele]First of all what D&D did is just fine by me. As much its his fault that he got screwed (by all means) we should not accept this from the GDPs.
One thing I can agree with everybody, just learn from this mistake and remember that girlfriend/wife will cost you way more than a GDP.[/QUOTE]
Finally, someone else who sees things the same way I do. Alot of guys have been downing D&D, but I dont think what he did was so bad. Maybe making a website devoted towards her was a bit much, but I bet it serves its purpose. I gurantee she will think twice before leading on/selling a pipe dream to the next gringo, while fleecing him of his hard earned money!!
If anything, I think we should have a section right here devoted towards showing girls who we know are getting money from their sponsors and yet are still working. Or girls who have multiple guys sending them money all the while each one thinks he is her "one and only".
Oops, I just reread what I wrote. Scratch that idea. It will fuck up my potential business of opening a GDP pi office in Copa. I want guys to keep sending money even though the little voice in their heads tell them that she is still hoeing! Then they can hire me to track her down. LOL
D&D, i want to thank you for reinforcing the rule to never think of these working girls as girlfriend material!!!
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[QUOTE=Phunluv]Interesting discussion. I think it's okay to partially help out a GdP or two if you have that kind of money to burn and want to be nice/generous. But you need to be able to face certain realities head on.
First of all, don't expect any kind of philanthropy reward for being generous to hookers.
Second, if you think you can buy a woman's loyalty or love, you're a fool. It's almost a law of human psychology that the more you try to do that, the more she will resent it and try to sabotage/betray you.
Third and most important, you MUST accept that you're NOT the only man in her current sex life. Never have been, never will be. Most men can't deal with that, particularly American men.
There's a lot of guys out there who dabble in mongering but have never really come to terms with it. These guys have misgivings with the fact they paid for sex, that they are involved with women who are not conventionally "virtuous," so they try to convert a fling with a GdP to something "deeper" to try to justify it to themselves. They don't want to see themselves as some kind of lowlife monger. On the contrary, in their minds, the GdP becomes a woman they can rescue or make "virtuous."
Inevitably, they fall into trouble if not outright disaster.
If I was in Dumber's situation, by living in Brazil for awhile and seeing this girl frequently, that would bring the chances of infidelity down to 50%.
But if I'm only seeing a GdP or "semi-pro" during occasional visits to Brazil, then it's 99% sure she's screwing at least one local guy and at least one other foreigner. Anyone who thinks otherwise is just a naive fool.
I'm a pretty selfish egoistic guy when it comes to my discretionary income, and I don't make all that much anyway. But if I did make more money, I might help out a certain GdP now and then with her needs as long as they were legit. I'm not going to fund a shopping spree so she can wear the latest fashions for all her other lovers to enjoy. But if she needed to pay for a home repair or for a kid's education bill, I would gladly help her out with that, as long as I was ABSOLUTELY CERTAIN that's where the money was really going.
Also, if she really needs more money, that's when you can negotiate for more sex, or bareback, or dupla, or swing club, etc.
However, if you're sending the money from afar, you're likely setting yourself up for bigger and bigger scams.
I have wired money in the past to a couple of non-pros and semi-pros I dated in Bogota and Havana, but never more than $100 and never twice to the same girl. I would recommend sticking to that plan and as the dog whisperer would say, laying down "rules, boundaries, and limitations" with these chicas when it comes to money from afar.[/QUOTE]What is said in this quote is dead on point. You cannot turn a GDP into a housewife once she has been doing this kind of profession for a long period of time. Unless she is still a newbie to the GDP life. And guys remember one thing we are going to Brazil to p4p not to marry it and become obsessed over it.
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D&D Story
D&D,
Like others something about your story just didn't sit right. Your post did indeed intrigue me. I believe you likely post more frequently under another name, but that is neither here nor there. What I can say is it appears you were taken by a GDP during your first trip to Rio, which is completely understandable. I believe you’re sharing the story here will serve as a warning for the new guys and a reminder to the vets. Looks like you were looking for a real relationship from the start and got caught in her web. One thing guys visiting Help for the first time should understand is that for the girls, it is a job, plain and simply. For US it is fun. For many of them it is fun too, but for some of them it is not. It is their job! Their life and the lives of their children, mothers, brothers, sisters and YES their men is why many of them are there to please US.
After finding the website you dedicated to her, I realized I met this girl. After a little research and I do mean little (my hard drive) I realized I met her on the beach. Will I post her picture? No. You have been through enough. (Any man who goes to the trouble of establishing a website about a one women who wronged him has been through enough.) She was a bit older and her body was a bit different, no doubt from your money. I must say she seemed like a very nice person. Very disarming. She seemed indeed to be kind woman. Very much about family. Never saw her again after that day, but I can see how being in Rio for the first time, you fell for her.
Glad you took Euro100’s advice and took down the website. I also believe you should take Mr. Bond’s advice and attempt to resolve the matter out of court.
Thanks for posting your experience. Since you have met a non-GDP who makes your happy, my advice is to let it go and move on. I would say you should let ISG go too. You are just not cut out for this life. Rio is a beautiful place with beautiful women. A statue of Christ the Redeemer looks down on the Marvelous City from a high, but one should not forget, we are all dancing with the Devil and you can only dance with the Devil so many times and not get burnt.
RonnyRon
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Doesn't add up
I hope the girl look good, even then doesn't justify how much he has spent.
He could have went back in forth to Rio 20 x's over
He could have ventured out to every city in Brazil f*cking GDP's.
It goes to show that a GDP doesn't need a college degree to get paid in Brazil.
& also you can get rob easier through an acquaintance than through a mugger.
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[QUOTE=RonnyRon]Rio is a beautiful place with beautiful women. A statue of Christ the Redeemer looks down on the Marvelous City from a high, but one should not forget, we are all dancing with the Devil and you can only dance with the Devil so many times and not get burnt.[/QUOTE]
RR, I definitely second that! But, man, is it fun while it lasts, huh! Kinda reminds me of those immortal lines from the song "Blinded by the Light" from Manfred Mann's Earth Band:
[i]Mama always told me not to look into the eye's of the sun
But mama, that's where the fun is[/i]
I like, no [b]LOVE[/b] to fall in love with a GDP each time I am in Rio. It's fantastic. (I have posted enough of my adventures that the senior members at least will know what I am talking about). But you have to treat it like going to the movies: Yes, you can get totally wrapped up in the movie while it is on, but when the credits roll, it is OVER. Each time I fly back from Rio I have a bit of heartache. But that's OK, reminds me I am alive. Then I toss all of the phone numbers and addresses I collected, write my report for ISG, and I am over it.
Yes, of course I know they lie to me and try to play me. But that's OK, I do the same. It's not so much lying, actually, as it is playing a role, acting. And that's the way I try to approach it: like an actor in a movie. This way (at least I hope) I do not get burned; I only get a nice tan ;)
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What's Dumb N Dumber's GDP Website?
[QUOTE=RonnyRon]D&D,
Like others something about your story just didn't sit right. Your post did indeed intrigue me. I believe you likely post more frequently under another name, but that is neither here nor there. What I can say is it appears you were taken by a GDP during your first trip to Rio, which is completely understandable. I believe you’re sharing the story here will serve as a warning for the new guys and a reminder to the vets. Looks like you were looking for a real relationship from the start and got caught in her web. One thing guys visiting Help for the first time should understand is that for the girls, it is a job, plain and simply. For US it is fun. For many of them it is fun too, but for some of them it is not. It is their job! Their life and the lives of their children, mothers, brothers, sisters and YES their men is why many of them are there to please US.
After finding the website you dedicated to her, I realized I met this girl. After a little research and I do mean little (my hard drive) I realize I met her on the beach. Will, I post her picture? No. You have been through enough. (Any man who goes to the trouble of establishing a website about a one women who wronged him has been through enough.) She was a bit older and her body was a bit different, no doubt from your money. I must say she seemed like a very nice person. Very disarming. She seemed indeed to be kind woman. Very much about family. Never saw her again after that day, but I can see how being in Rio for the first time, you fell for her.
Glad you took Euro100’s advice and took down the website. I also believe you should take Mr. Bond’s advice and attempt to resolve the matter out of court.
Thanks for posting your experience. Since you have met a non-GDP who makes your happy, my advice is to let it go and move on. I would say you should let ISG go too. You are just not cut out for this life. Rio is a beautiful place with beautiful women. A statue of Christ the Redeemer looks down on the Marvelous City from a high, but one should not forget, we are all dancing with the Devil and you can only dance with the Devil so many times and not get burnt.
RonnyRon[/QUOTE]For those who found it, could you please post it?
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Hmm, I thought I was the only one….
[QUOTE=Euro100]
I like, no [b]LOVE[/b] to fall in love with a GDP each time I am in Rio. It's fantastic. (I have posted enough of my adventures that the senior members at least will know what I am talking about). But you have to treat it like going to the movies: Yes, you can get totally wrapped up in the movie while it is on, but when the credits roll, it is OVER. Each time I fly back from Rio I have a bit of heartache. But that's OK, reminds me I am alive. Then I toss all of the phone numbers and addresses I collected, write my report for ISG, and I am over it.
Yes, of course I know they lie to me and try to play me. But that's OK, I do the same. It's not so much lying, actually, as it is playing a role, acting. And that's the way I try to approach it: like an actor in a movie. This way (at least I hope) I do not get burned; I only get a nice tan ;)[/QUOTE]
Indeed, I don't consider it a good trip unless I fall in love either. I like the act, and I’ve met few other women who can pull it off so convincingly. And yes, the plane ride back is NOT fun. My cure is a trip-- but usually to another destination. This diversion is a way to remind myself of a key truth of this hobby: [b][i]with diligent enough searching, ultimate GFE can be found anywhere.[/b][/i] Then I’m good for a little while longer, until I get the Brasileira cravings again.
I admit I don’t throw out numbers but I probably should. In several years of hobbying I have yet to find a namorada who was still there when I returned. Elsewhere, I’ve got regulars but not yet in Rio….
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Yes Sirrrr!
[QUOTE=Euro100]RR, I definitely second that! But, man, is it fun while it lasts, huh! Kinda reminds me of those immortal lines from the song "Blinded by the Light" from Manfred Mann's Earth Band:
[i]Mama always told me not to look into the eye's of the sun
But mama, that's where the fun is[/i]
Yes, of course I know they lie to me and try to play me. But that's OK, I do the same. It's not so much lying, actually, as it is playing a role, acting. And that's the way I try to approach it: like an actor in a movie. This way (at least I hope) I do not get burned; I only get a nice tan ;)[/QUOTE]
After my last dance, I get right back in line!!!
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Economic Crisis Hits German Sex Industry - What About Brazil?
Economic Crisis Hits German Sex Industry BERLIN (April 22). It did not take long for the world financial crisis to affect the world’s oldest profession in Germany. In one of the few countries where prostitution is legal, and unusually transparent, the industry has responded with an economic stimulus package of its own: modern marketing tools, rebates and gimmicks to boost falling demand.
Some brothels have cut prices or added free promotions while others have introduced all-inclusive flat-rate fees. Free shuttle buses, discounts for seniors and taxi drivers, as well as "day passes" are among marketing strategies designed to keep business going. "Times are tough for us too, " said Karin Ahrens, who manages the "Yes, Sir" brothel in Hanover. She told Reuters revenue had dropped by 30 percent at her establishment while turnover had fallen by as much as 50 percent at other clubs.
"We’re definitely feeling the crisis. Clients are being tight with their money. They’re afraid. You can’t charge for the extras any more and there is pressure to cut prices. Everyone wants a deal. Special promotions are essential these days. "
Germany has about 400, 000 professional prostitutes. Official figures do not distinguish between the sexes and the number of male prostitutes is not known, but they account for a small fraction of the total and are treated the same under the law. In 2002, new legislation allowed prostitutes to advertise and to enter into formal labor contracts. It opened the way for them to obtain health insurance, previously refused if they listed their true profession.
Annual revenues are about 14 billion euros ($18 billion), according to an estimate by the Verdi services union. Taxes on prostitution are an important source of income for some cities.
Prostitution is also legal and regulated in the Netherlands, Austria, Switzerland, Hungary, Greece, Turkey and in some parts of Australia, and the U. S. State of Nevada. In other countries, such as Luxembourg, Latvia, Denmark, Belgium and Finland, it is legal but brothels and pimping are not. ‘Creative Solutions’ Berlin’s "Pussy Club" has attracted media attention with its headline-grabbing "flat rate" — a 70-euro admission charge for unlimited food, drink and sex between 10 a. M. And 4 p. M.
"You’ve got to come up with creative solutions these days, " said club manager Stefan, who requested his surname not be published. "We’re feeling the economic crisis, too, even though business has fortunately been more or less okay for us so far. "Our offer might sound like it’s too good to be true, but it’s real. You can eat as much as you want, drink as much as you want and have as much sex as you want. "
Stefan, who runs other establishments in Heidelberg and Wuppertal besides the Berlin club, said the flat rate had helped keep the 30 women working in each location fully employed.
Other novel ideas used by brothels and prostitutes include loyalty cards, group sex parties and rebates for golf players. Hamburg’s "GeizHaus" is especially proud of its discount 38. 50 euro price. The city has Germany’s most famous red-light district, the Reeperbahn, in the notorious St. Pauli district.
Anke Christiansen, manager of the "GeizHaus, " said the effects of the economic crisis were clear. "The regular customers who used to come by two or three times a week are only co ming by once or twice a week now. "
A "GeizHaus" client, who gave his name as Pascal, said: "Naturally we’re all feeling the effects of the crisis. " He added that he could no longer afford his usual two or three visits a week.
Guenter Krull, manager of the "FKK Villa" in Hanover, concurred. "The girls are complaining, too, because business is bad and I worry that it’s all going to get even worse. Contingency Plans
Ecki Krumeich, manager of upmarket Artemis Club in Berlin, said he resisted pressure to cut prices, although senior citizens and taxi drivers get a 50-percent discount on the 80-euro admission fee on Sundays and Mondays.
"Naturally, we’re keeping an eye on the overall economic situation and making contingency plans, " said Krumeich, who said his "wellness club" is one of the largest in Europe with about 70 prostitutes. "Our philosophy is: we provide an important service and even in a recession there are some things people won’t do without. Other downmarket places might cut prices but we decided we won’t do that. In fact, we raised prices by 10 euros in January. " Stephanie Klee, a prostitute in Berlin and former leader of the German association of sex workers, said even if a few luxury brothels were weathering the storm because of their wealthy regular clientele, many were struggling.
"Just about everyone’s turning to advertising in one form or another, " she said. "If the consumer electronics shop and the optician come out with rebates and special promotions, why shouldn’t we try the same thing? "
While she and her colleagues might have had five or six clients per day a year ago that had fallen to one or even none. Http://news. Aol.com/article/german-sex-industry/441881? Icid=webmail|wbml-aol|dl1|link2|http%3A%2F.
2 Klee worries, however, that the crisis has led to "price dumping" in some cities — fees have fallen as low as 30 euros in some parts of Berlin and elsewhere, she said.
"You’ll find a lot of customers trying to negotiate prices down now, " said Klee. "A 30- year-old came up to me and said ‘I lost my job so will you give me a discount? ’. "
She and others said they were alarmed that amateur prostitutes — mostly women with low-paid careers — were increasingly turning to prostitution to make ends meet.
"More and more women are moonlighting on the weekends, " said Ahrens. "They’re not able to get by with their main job and are in pretty dire straights. For some it works out okay but it’s tough for some others and they often don’t stay very long.
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[QUOTE=RonnyRon]GFE or Girlfriend experience in Rio is more the rule rather than the exception. Not many wet fish in Rio. I believe in 10 years, I have only had 3. 2 were from the Balcony. I like the Balcony, but it can be hit and miss. Brasilian women are naturally affectionate, passionate and enjoy sex. They are interested in pleasing you. I suggest you not be concerned about it. Believe me you will understand a lot more once you get there. There’s tons of information about website for girls in the Escort section. For example: [url]http://www.hotside.com.br/[/url] is a good one. If the girl’s information states she is (simpatica) you know she is GFE, but again in my experience it is a moot point.
As far as DO's & DON'Ts. If you have read the forum you are covered.
RonnyRon[/QUOTE]Thanks for yr reply RonnyRon, appreciate it.
I can't wait to find out
Dragonlordnl1971
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Well put....
[QUOTE=RonnyRon]D&D,
Like others something about your story just didn't sit right. Your post did indeed intrigue me. I believe you likely post more frequently under another name, but that is neither here nor there. What I can say is it appears you were taken by a GDP during your first trip to Rio, which is completely understandable. I believe you’re sharing the story here will serve as a warning for the new guys and a reminder to the vets. Looks like you were looking for a real relationship from the start and got caught in her web. One thing guys visiting Help for the first time should understand is that for the girls, it is a job, plain and simply. For US it is fun. For many of them it is fun too, but for some of them it is not. It is their job! Their life and the lives of their children, mothers, brothers, sisters and YES their men is why many of them are there to please US.
After finding the website you dedicated to her, I realized I met this girl. After a little research and I do mean little (my hard drive) I realized I met her on the beach. Will I post her picture? No. You have been through enough. (Any man who goes to the trouble of establishing a website about a one women who wronged him has been through enough.) She was a bit older and her body was a bit different, no doubt from your money. I must say she seemed like a very nice person. Very disarming. She seemed indeed to be kind woman. Very much about family. Never saw her again after that day, but I can see how being in Rio for the first time, you fell for her.
Glad you took Euro100’s advice and took down the website. I also believe you should take Mr. Bond’s advice and attempt to resolve the matter out of court.
Thanks for posting your experience. Since you have met a non-GDP who makes your happy, my advice is to let it go and move on. I would say you should let ISG go too. You are just not cut out for this life. Rio is a beautiful place with beautiful women. A statue of Christ the Redeemer looks down on the Marvelous City from a high, but one should not forget, we are all dancing with the Devil and you can only dance with the Devil so many times and not get burnt.
RonnyRon[/QUOTE]
Well said RR,
It's hard to put the experience of your first trip to Rio out of your mind forever. Scratch that, your first "mongering trip" to Rio. I still have the phone number and email address of the first GDP I went home with in Rio. Have not seen her for well over a year now, but I can't quite bring myself to throw it out as Euro100 suggests. But that's a good tip. Kind of a cleaning exercise.
We all do this <mongering> for different reasons. I think enough of us have weighed in on DnD's experience to have a representative sample of opinion. For any of you who have read some or ALL of the posts regarding this "tale of woe", you have probably learned as much about many of us as you have about DnD. I think what this underscores is that WE ALL have different motivations and goals from our mongering activities. For some it's about scoring as much meaningless pussy as possible for as little money as possible (not that there's anything wrong with that). For others it's about fulfilling a fantasy or playing a role. The one inescapable truth at the core of any of this is that, YES - it's a job for these girls. Most have families, some have kids, and many have husbands and boyfriends. Long after we head for the airport, these girls are still going to be there working the next batch that come to town.
RR - the dance you refer to is a real one and so is the devil. Those who attempt to get too close risk being pulled into the "twilight zone". The more experienced among us can recognize the "zone" and keep their distance from it by having a great session, paying your money and moving on. For the less experienced, the whole dance is fraught with danger. Once you are in the twilight zone money is relative and the promise of whatever it is you are after seems to be worth the money. When it's happening to you (yes, I speak from experience) it all seems to be ok. When the music stops............. well, no need to beat a dead horse.
Someone posted long ago that the job of the GDP is to extract as much money as possible from you. Some only have enough "game" to fuck you, suck you and take money for the transaction. And again, there's nothing wrong with that. But those who REALLY have "game" can size you up, figure out what you "need" and search for that weakness that can be exploited. And if they can exploit that weakness, they will. It's their job. There's a reason half these girls are self professed "psychology students".
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The Game
[QUOTE=Jake993]Well said RR,
It's hard to put the experience of your first trip to Rio out of your mind forever. Scratch that, your first "mongering trip" to Rio. I still have the phone number and email address of the first GDP I went home with in Rio. Have not seen her for well over a year now, but I can't quite bring myself to throw it out as Euro100 suggests. But that's a good tip. Kind of a cleaning exercise.
We all do this <mongering> for different reasons. I think enough of us have weighed in on DnD's experience to have a representative sample of opinion. For any of you who have read some or ALL of the posts regarding this "tale of woe", you have probably learned as much about many of us as you have about DnD. I think what this underscores is that WE ALL have different motivations and goals from our mongering activities. For some it's about scoring as much meaningless pussy as possible for as little money as possible (not that there's anything wrong with that). For others it's about fulfilling a fantasy or playing a role. The one inescapable truth at the core of any of this is that, YES - it's a job for these girls. Most have families, some have kids, and many have husbands and boyfriends. Long after we head for the airport, these girls are still going to be there working the next batch that come to town.
RR - the dance you refer to is a real one and so is the devil. Those who attempt to get too close risk being pulled into the "twilight zone". The more experienced among us can recognize the "zone" and keep their distance from it by having a great session, paying your money and moving on. For the less experienced, the whole dance is fraught with danger. Once you are in the twilight zone money is relative and the promise of whatever it is you are after seems to be worth the money. When it's happening to you (yes, I speak from experience) it all seems to be ok. When the music stops............. well, no need to beat a dead horse.
Someone posted long ago that the job of the GDP is to extract as much money as possible from you. Some only have enough "game" to fuck you, suck you and take money for the transaction. And again, there's nothing wrong with that. But those who REALLY have "game" can size you up, figure out what you "need" and search for that weakness that can be exploited. And if they can exploit that weakness, they will. It's their job. There's a reason half these girls are self professed "psychology students".[/QUOTE]I agree with what you guys are saying, and also agree that it's hard not to "live the dream" so to speak. For me, I fall into the former category - quick fuck, then out the door. To be totally honest, I don't know how you can "live the dream", as the thing at the front of my mind is, I am paying for sex. Great sex I might add. Hopefully filthy, dirty, pornstar sex.
The whole GFE thing is something I cannot grasp. Probably to the detriment of my Brazilian experience. I mean, 99% of GDP's here are about, as you stated Jake, extracting cash from gringos. The other 1%, I'm sure they exist, but who can really tell when they have found one? The odds definitely aren't tilted in your favor.
Anyhow, I'm definitely not dissing the guys that can live the dream. Good on you. As long as you can distinguish the line between reality and fiction, nobody gets hurt. All good!
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[QUOTE=Jake993]I think enough of us have weighed in on DnD's experience to have a representative sample of opinion. For any of you who have read some or ALL of the posts regarding this "tale of woe", you have probably learned as much about many of us as you have about DnD. I think what this underscores is that WE ALL have different motivations and goals from our mongering activities. For some it's about scoring as much meaningless pussy as possible for as little money as possible (not that there's anything wrong with that). For others it's about fulfilling a fantasy or playing a role. The one inescapable truth at the core of any of this is that, YES - it's a job for these girls. Most have families, some have kids, and many have husbands and boyfriends. Long after we head for the airport, these girls are still going to be there working the next batch that come to town. [/QUOTE]That was well put, and sums it all up. Let's just call it closure and move on to the next trip report.
I'll be adding my more recent story of love,sex, and lust very soon.
ryjer
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Anyone used them?
Amerioca.net I know years back was very popular but now I find no review about them!
Thank for the help
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D & D
I can't believe how everyone has gotten caught up in that bullshit post.
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Morning Of
Chillin down in Rio. I was with my girlfriend the last couple of days. I waited for a couple of members to call but I didn't hear from them. The old ball and chain had to go home last night but was going to return this morning. I told her that I was going to go ahead and go home because I didn't want to stay without her. But really I wanted to get into some mongering. As soon as she got on the bus I sent out a couple of texts to non-pros. I called one other in addition and we marked for this morning at 9. But she called me back and said it would be better for her to come straight away. When she arrived she said that she couldn't stay long because she had to work in the morning. So we went to a kiosk and got caipirinha and water then I waited with her to get her bus.
As soon as she left a friend of mine who is in law school called and said she wanted to come stay with me. I was kind of set on going to Balcony and maybe VM, but I said what the hell. She said she was leaving school and would arrive in Copa at 11:00 or 11:15. It was 10 then. So I rode the bus down to Princess Isabel. I was standing at the crosswalk when I noticed a tall blonde stunner to my right and another nice chick next to her. The stunner was all done up in makeup and high heels. To me that was a little suspicious because I never see anyone like that in the streets of Copa. I said to myself that she MUST be going to work inside of one of the clip joints. I slowed my step so that I would be walking behind them. Sure enough they stopped at the door of Barbarellas where to doorman checked their purses. The stunner was looking so good that I wanted to walk right in behind her so I could get ripped off! Instead, I continued on Prado Junior where I saw several more good looking hookers.
When I took the right onto Avenida Atlantica there was a female tout giving out cards for Niko's Boite. I took a card from her and continued to Balcony. I had found the party. I hadn't seen Balcony like that since 2003. It was off the hook. I asked Cida, the bartender, for a Skol. R$6! There was plenty of talent there last night. One girl, Kelly, who lives in Madueira kept trying to get me to do a three way with her and any one of her three friends that were there. It was very suspicious the way she kept trying to sell it. But I told her that I would gladly take her alone. Just then I got a text from the person I was waiting for. She had arrived and was waiting for me. I got a price from Kelly of R$150 with no time limit and her phone number for later.
I took the Rocinha van down to the other end of Copa for R$2. I met up with my friend and we went straight to my room. She wanted to go out to a bar but I insisted that either I go to a bar alone and she stay in and study or we both stay in and fuck. No more options. So we stayed in and fucked. I woke up at 11am to a hot mouth on my dick. I was thinking that I really wanted to go downtown to 85 or 22. But what the hell I have free pussy here. So I grabbed a condom and went to work. When it was all over I pulled out and what the fuck? The condom had broken. I have been using the Magnum brand for years and never have I had one break on me.
All I could think of is that I hope they have that morning after pill here in Rio. I asked my friend if the pharmacy had the pill and she said yes but she is allergic to medicine and had not taken any kind of pill since she was 16 and got very sick. I said well you should be allergic to being pregnant more than a damn pill. She wanted to know what I was going to tell the pharmicist. I said hell I am going to tell them exactly what happened. We were fucking, the condom broke, and do they have anything that you can take so you won't become pregnant. She wanted me to make up some kind of story. I said hell woman it's a pharmacy not a church. They deal with this everyday.
So I ran down to the pharmacy while she took a shower. The guy at the pharmacy didn't see the medicine under his counter. However, he did write down the name for me and told me that it would cost R$13 or R$14. I went to the next pharmacy I saw and gave the lady the paper. The name is Pilem (levonorgestrel) ,75mg(three-quarters of a milligram). The cost was R$14.95. I asked the pharmacist how she needed to take it. She said to take one pill now and the other pill in 12 hours.
I rushed back to the room, opened the box, and gave her the first pill with some water. I put the other pill into her pants' pocket and told her not to forget to take it at 1am. She said that if she died from taking the pills then it would be my fault. I said yeah, and if you get pregnant? She said then her mom would kill her. I said so either way you die. Just don't forget to take the other pill later. I walked her to the bus stop then I went for a misto and acai.
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[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]
So I ran down to the pharmacy while she took a shower. The guy at the pharmacy didn't see the medicine under his counter. However, he did write down the name for me and told me that it would cost R$13 or R$14. I went to the next pharmacy I saw and gave the lady the paper. The name is Pilem (levonorgestrel) ,75mg(three-quarters of a milligram). The cost was R$14.95. I asked the pharmacist how she needed to take it. She said to take one pill now and the other pill in 12 hours.
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This is great info for the morning after pill. And since I actually use the same brand of condom, I'll be sure to keep the info stored upstairs. I must admit, I've never had one of them break on me.
About Balcony...............interesting. I haven't heard of it described with such enthusiasm before.
ryjer
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Rio holiday
I heard that it is a holiday in Rio today (April 23). Does anyone know if 4x4 will be open?
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Sao Jorge Day
[QUOTE=Race Track]I heard that it is a holiday in Rio today (April 23). Does anyone know if 4x4 will be open?[/QUOTE]Correct it is Sao Jorge or Saint George Day; they light a lot of fireworks like 4th of July on this day!
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[QUOTE=Ryjerrob]This is great info for the morning after pill. And since I actually use the same brand of condom, I'll be sure to keep the info stored upstairs. I must admit, I've never had one of them break on me.
About Balcony...............interesting. I haven't heard of it described with such enthusiasm before.
ryjer[/QUOTE]
I use that brand and it has broken numerous times in the past.
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[QUOTE=Ee2002]I use that brand and it has broken numerous times in the past.[/QUOTE]
Time to upgrade to Mangum XL........................................LOL!
ryjer
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[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]Chillin down in Rio. I was with my girlfriend the last couple of days. I waited for a couple of members to call but I didn't hear from them. The old ball and chain had to go home last night but was going to return this morning. I told her that I was going to go ahead and go home because I didn't want to stay without her. But really I wanted to get into some mongering. As soon as she got on the bus I sent out a couple of texts to non-pros. I called one other in addition and we marked for this morning at 9. But she called me back and said it would be better for her to come straight away. When she arrived she said that she couldn't stay long because she had to work in the morning. So we went to a kiosk and got caipirinha and water then I waited with her to get her bus.
As soon as she left a friend of mine who is in law school called and said she wanted to come stay with me. I was kind of set on going to Balcony and maybe VM, but I said what the hell. She said she was leaving school and would arrive in Copa at 11:00 or 11:15. It was 10 then. So I rode the bus down to Princess Isabel. I was standing at the crosswalk when I noticed a tall blonde stunner to my right and another nice chick next to her. The stunner was all done up in makeup and high heels. To me that was a little suspicious because I never see anyone like that in the streets of Copa. I said to myself that she MUST be going to work inside of one of the clip joints. I slowed my step so that I would be walking behind them. Sure enough they stopped at the door of Barbarellas where to doorman checked their purses. The stunner was looking so good that I wanted to walk right in behind her so I could get ripped off! Instead, I continued on Prado Junior where I saw several more good looking hookers.
When I took the right onto Avenida Atlantica there was a female tout giving out cards for Niko's Boite. I took a card from her and continued to Balcony. I had found the party. I hadn't seen Balcony like that since 2003. It was off the hook. I asked Cida, the bartender, for a Skol. R$6! There was plenty of talent there last night. One girl, Kelly, who lives in Madueira kept trying to get me to do a three way with her and any one of her three friends that were there. It was very suspicious the way she kept trying to sell it. But I told her that I would gladly take her alone. Just then I got a text from the person I was waiting for. She had arrived and was waiting for me. I got a price from Kelly of R$150 with no time limit and her phone number for later.
I took the Rocinha van down to the other end of Copa for R$2. I met up with my friend and we went straight to my room. She wanted to go out to a bar but I insisted that either I go to a bar alone and she stay in and study or we both stay in and fuck. No more options. So we stayed in and fucked. I woke up at 11am to a hot mouth on my dick. I was thinking that I really wanted to go downtown to 85 or 22. But what the hell I have free pussy here. So I grabbed a condom and went to work. When it was all over I pulled out and what the fuck? The condom had broken. I have been using the Magnum brand for years and never have I had one break on me.
All I could think of is that I hope they have that morning after pill here in Rio. I asked my friend if the pharmacy had the pill and she said yes but she is allergic to medicine and had not taken any kind of pill since she was 16 and got very sick. I said well you should be allergic to being pregnant more than a damn pill. She wanted to know what I was going to tell the pharmicist. I said hell I am going to tell them exactly what happened. We were fucking, the condom broke, and do they have anything that you can take so you won't become pregnant. She wanted me to make up some kind of story. I said hell woman it's a pharmacy not a church. They deal with this everyday.
So I ran down to the pharmacy while she took a shower. The guy at the pharmacy didn't see the medicine under his counter. However, he did write down the name for me and told me that it would cost R$13 or R$14. I went to the next pharmacy I saw and gave the lady the paper. The name is Pilem (levonorgestrel), 75mg (three-quarters of a milligram). The cost was R$14. 95. I asked the pharmacist how she needed to take it. She said to take one pill now and the other pill in 12 hours.
I rushed back to the room, opened the box, and gave her the first pill with some water. I put the other pill into her pants' pocket and told her not to forget to take it at 1am. She said that if she died from taking the pills then it would be my fault. I said yeah, and if you get pregnant? She said then her mom would kill her. I said so either way you die. Just don't forget to take the other pill later. I walked her to the bus stop then I went for a misto and acai. [/QUOTE]Damn Dude,
You should've handcuffed her to you until 1am instead of depending on her to take that pill. It's going to be a rough few months for to see if she really took the pill.
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best condom
The non latex condoms never break (in my experience). There is the Trojan Supra and the Avanti, both made from polyurethane. They have the advantage of feeling better too.
Of course, you can buy the sheep's intestine condom (Trojan makes these) for ~ $3 apiece, but some people worry that they are not a reliable barrier against HIV. The lamb condoms literally feel like you are not wearing a condom. Beware, however, they leave a horrible taste behind. I have had a few girls ready to kill me after tasting whatever it is that they use as preservative for these condoms.
[QUOTE=Ryjerrob]Time to upgrade to Mangum XL........................................LOL!
ryjer[/QUOTE]