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New World Order,
Where is Finkle?
What is the best way to get there?
In Itaewon, what is the best place to hang out for some fun?
I lived in Seoul from 84 thru 93, knew the place to have fun, but now I get to Seoul twice a year, and I am lost. The scene has change so much. I am looking to have some fun on my fall trip, and I am wondering where to go for some fun? Any ideas?
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hello s. korean board.
first and foremost, i wanted to thank a good number of you guys for providing such insightful information for fellow johns looking to hobby in s. korea. i have gained invaluable information, and actually reached out to a number of you via backchannel emails (mine is mpleasuresn@hotmail.com).
i will be in korea towards the end of july on business, and i wanted to do all my homework before i touch down in my motherland. i have been in the hobby a number of years, and although i do not post as frequently anymore, i have legitimate posts in the nyc - manhattan board a number of months back.
i would love to hear what some of you can recommend. i would like to sample a wide variety of women, but mainly would be interested in upscale providers or nice bath houses. at this point, i will be traveling alone, and would probably rule out meeting non-pros at the clubs (although this would prob be most enjoyable). so, if anyone can provide me with help, it would be appreciated. you can hit me on this board or at my email address listed above.
thanks for making this forum such a wealth of info.
let the peoples feast!
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by jimhart69
[i]New World Order,
Where is Finkle?
What is the best way to get there?
In Itaewon, what is the best place to hang out for some fun?
I lived in Seoul from 84 thru 93, knew the place to have fun, but now I get to Seoul twice a year, and I am lost. The scene has change so much. I am looking to have some fun on my fall trip, and I am wondering where to go for some fun? Any ideas? [/i][/QUOTE]Greetings jimhard69 :)
To get to Finkle:
There is a Starbucks at the Yeoksam station area and it faces the main road (Tae-hang-ro). The main entrance of Starbucks is facing towards a small alley (and not the main road).
Stand in front of the main entrance. You will see two small alleys. Go to the alley that is on the left. Enter the alley and walk (for about 20 meters) until you see another alley on your left.
Walk and on your right, you will see a glass door and a barbor pole of each side. The sign will read "ÇÎŬ" in white letters on a pink background. If you open the glass door, you will see a red-colored stairway down. Go downstairs and you will see the mamasan eating a f*ckin banana and one of the working girls sucking on an ice cream. LOL :)
Tell them that a Korean-American from Chicago introduced you to that place. :)
Itaewon, one club I went to was Hollywood. A lot of sl*tty Korean girls go there to meet foreign men. I lie to the girls that I am half Japanese. LOL :)
Good luck~~~
Sincerely,
New World Order
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The Continental -
I think you misunderstood my position. Actually, I fully support it. It's draconian, but it works.
Rgds,
AM.
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Dont get me wrong.. I NEVER said korean/americans or asians should not post on this board..
What I am saying is..
if you are korean/american or korean or whatever.. then please say so in your post...
you last night I went to 588 had this model she was a 9 etc..
the GFE the whole nine yards..
because newbies will get the wrong ideA~
they will go to 588 and get spit on and thing to themselves WTF!!
that other guy on WSg was either full of shit or he must of looked like brad pitt!!
at the end of each post just say BTW I am korean...
I know as do a lot of others that Korea is racist and xenophobic.
woman have the right to choose? well if you ask me most of the hookers would take us but its because the KOREAN MEN dont like it.. thats the only reason.. if a girl is seen serving a foreigner she is looked down on and will lose business and be called a dirty *****! hahahah i'm serious..
its not because she doesnt want to.. I ThINK SHE WOULD PREFER TO SLEEP WITH US over a 65 year old fat smelly ADUSI!
but she will choose him over us..
I am happy to read posts from everyone koreans or not..
but I want to know if you are korean or not that why I can save myself a trip!
thats all..
and too that guy who was bragging about asians being the best!
SETTLE DOWN SPORT!!
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by seoulman
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I know as do a lot of others that Korea is racist and xenophobic.
woman have the right to choose? well if you ask me most of the hookers would take us but its because the KOREAN MEN dont like it.. thats the only reason.. if a girl is seen serving a foreigner she is looked down on and will lose business and be called a dirty *****! hahahah i'm serious..
its not because she doesnt want to.. I ThINK SHE WOULD PREFER TO SLEEP WITH US over a 65 year old fat smelly ADUSI!
but she will choose him over us..
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I'll have to agree with whatever you have said but I don't really think that that is the only reason. But that's probably the main reason like it or not. Anyway I think it is safe to say that all the korean men in WSG(be it korean american or whatever else) are not racist and what not. Otherwise, we wouldn't be posting stuff on this website for the benefit of non-koreans. Let's all live happily and act like grown ups because honestly, this talk of racism and cultural relativism is seriously getting tired and repetitous. So no more laments about asshole korean men and then some. Enough of the stereotyping and complains. Let's get back to the goodies...
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From talking to the girls I've met, the main reason they've told me that they won't serve non-Koreans is because of a fear of STDs, even with condom use. I think that's kinda understandalbe since if I had to take my chances, I that's what I would do, even though that that doesn't guarentee shit. Some of these girls are dumb as nuts. Like I said in my previous post, one girl thought she would get an STD because I wanted to use a rubber. Since they prefer or don't require a rubber, maybe they think they will get a STD from going BB and on top of that some think you can get an STD from the condom. Seriously, there's a reason why some girls work in this profession.
Mool
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OK, here's what I think. BTW I am a guy from SE Asian nation living in Korea for two years.
Korean working girls don't want to do it with foreigners because they don't want to be labeled as a 'non-Korean server' by their co-workers or the people around them.
Serving foreigners means she is either too ugly or too old to have enough Korean customers. What they fear the most is being gossipped by the women around them actually.
When I had Korean girlfriend, what bothered me the most were her friends who constantly asked her to break up with me. And also the ajummas were the ones who gave us dirty looks.
In my opion, as long as the girl is NOT cute, Korean men don't give a shit whether she does it with a pig.
Why do you guys think you have never seen a really cute Korean girl hanging out with a foreigner?
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Greetings~~~ :)
Most of the working girls are working because they need to pay off debt such as credit card debt, housing, family debt, etc.
Also, most of them have no special skills which are required in today's world--computer skills, English, etc.
I'm stuck and bored in Minnesota so I called up an escort to my hotel. She arrvies an hour later and wanted $300 for everything!!! I told her to leave. She then told me that there is a $40 fee for her coming all the way here. So I gave her the $40.
I miss Korea..... :(
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Ottoman,
You are some what correct on the working girls in Korea. But I can tell you, after living in Korea for ten year and now traveling to Korea multiple times a year for another 10 years on business, that is not completely true.
What will help you with all the girls in Korea, is learn Korean and also the culture. If you know the laugage and the culture, you accept by the girls. And you will find girls wanting to talk to you. I have been in many Korean only clubs and bars and had great luck with the girl, both pro and non-pro. I am a average looking white American, not thing special. If you just have fun with girls, and the they enjoy talking with you, you will find the girls line up.
Korea is great! Today, the girls are allot more open with the foreigner than 20 years ago. 20 years ago, if a girl was seen in public with a foreigner, this made her a pro in the eyes of the Korean people. Not today!
To start you down this road and learn what the girls like. Hang out at place that foreigner are accepted and talk to the girls; like the Hard Rock, TGI Fridays, Inter-Continental Hotel Club, etc. Start talking to the non-pro girls and it will help you with the pro's and the non-pros. Good luck!
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jimhart69
Thanks for the advice. it's always nice to hear an opinion from an expert.
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JimHart: Good post. I don't disagree with anything you said. I have lived in Korea for the past 5 years. But I also lived here before the 88 Olympics and I was extremely spoiled by those days when it was too easy to meet girls. But I guess I am older now and only ajummas chase me. But it sures beats the U.S. where there isn't the same quality of massage places and all...
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by jimhart69
[i]Ottoman,
What will help you with all the girls in Korea, is learn Korean and also the culture. If you know the laugage and the culture, you accept by the girls. And you will find girls wanting to talk to you. I have been in many Korean only clubs and bars and had great luck with the girl, both pro and non-pro. I am a average looking white American, not thing special. If you just have fun with girls, and the they enjoy talking with you, you will find the girls line up.
Korea is great! Today, the girls are allot more open with the foreigner than 20 years ago. 20 years ago, if a girl was seen in public with a foreigner, this made her a pro in the eyes of the Korean people. Not today!
To start you down this road and learn what the girls like. Hang out at place that foreigner are accepted and talk to the girls; like the Hard Rock, TGI Fridays, Inter-Continental Hotel Club, etc. Start talking to the non-pro girls and it will help you with the pro's and the non-pros. Good luck! [/i][/QUOTE]Excellent advice, I never thought about heading to the HR at all. I guess it is in Apguchong?
I will also agree that learning the langauge and appreciating the culture is the KEY that opens the door to meeting girls.
With regards to the Se Asian, well most Koreans realize that it is somewhat hypocritical of them to chastize foreigners with Korean girls, considering the influence of foreign countries in building Korea's economy.
Also, anyone on here who thinks they are posting for the "benefit" of non-Koreans is sadly mistaken. This board is not a pre-req for finding pros in Seoul. It is an information exchange.
Speaking of which, I have heard much talk about picking up girls in Hongdae. Any stories about that?
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by New World Order
[i]Greetings~~~ :)
I'm stuck and bored in Minnesota so I called up an escort to my hotel. She arrvies an hour later and wanted $300 for everything!!! I told her to leave. She then told me that there is a $40 fee for her coming all the way here. So I gave her the $40.
I miss Korea..... :( [/i][/QUOTE]$300? I would say that is the going rate. Some escorts in the US will say $180-200 "full-service." But, "for everything" you have to start upping the anti by $25 increments.
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by TheContinental
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With regards to the Se Asian, well most Koreans realize that it is somewhat hypocritical of them to chastize foreigners with Korean girls, considering the influence of foreign countries in building Korea's economy.
Also, anyone on here who thinks they are posting for the "benefit" of non-Koreans is sadly mistaken. This board is not a pre-req for finding pros in Seoul. It is an information exchange.
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Maybe I'm taking this the wrong way and do pinpoint it if I'm wrong(we always have to assume the writer's tone in written forms) but I feel like you are singling me out with unfair criticism.
I sure am not posting my FRs and infos for the benefits of non-koreans and I'm pretty sure nobody actually post infos with such intentions be it koreans or non. Like you said, this forum is nothing more than an information exchange center. Maybe you didn't like the term "benefit" but that is exactly what this is all about. If the informations weren't beneficial, no one would come around to WSG. I know I have benefitted greatly from other people's information and I don't think there's anything wrong with that(just as long as I give back to the community).
Seriously, this forum has become a political forum of late and I really don't know why you have to bring about your criticism of korean society at every chance that you get. I think it is hypocritical of you to bash korean society at every corner and then wanting to sleep with korean women. Make up your mind bro!! Frankly I do hope you'll chose the later and don't worry too much about the former. I hope you are not offended in anyway, I was trying to be positive.