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Santiago is very under-rated. First of all it's cheaper than Havana because there aren't as many tourists. Also the cops hassle the girls less.
The going price is $25-$30 for 2 hours or even overnight. Don't pay more, some girls will try to say $50 is what she usually gets. Bull! But maybe some of the more inexperienced (or stupid) fellows may have dropped that, but lets not spoil them.
A good place to hang out during the day is Plaza de la Revolucion , grab a seat at Casa Grand and survey the park.
At night Club 300 and Casa de la musica (both within a block of Casa Grand are good pickup places.
Good hunting!
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Santiago is indeed very under-rated. I've been to many cities in Cuba, including Havana, and nothing compares to Santiago. A beautiful city with colonial architecture, tons of shady parks to hang out, many museums, and places of interest, playa siboney nearby, and a unmatched liveliness full of music. And like anywhere in Cuba, girls come in all colours and tastes here.
The going rate from my experience for the night is whatever the hell you wanna give them. My second night, I picked up a petite black girl in Club 300, great pick up place. Every girl in there will eye you waiting for an opening. She agreed to come back to my casa, and there was no mention of dinero. Had a great night, the next morning i gave her 15 bucks, and she seemed offeneded. I insisted she take it, the nice guy I am.
The city is full of great places to hang out night or day, it seems everywhere is a good pick up place honestly. Just make eye contact, smile and you'll get a friendly response.
Later on, I met a real sweetheart, a student, 22 years old. Very romantic, girlfriend-material, which shocked me cause I'm in Cuba aren't I? We spent a few nights together, and get this: She bought ME things like food, and museum entrances during the day, and she didnt want any money for spending time with me. There's a mind-fuck and a half for ya. I guess she just really wanted something serious, but I told her it ain't happening. Cubans are very smart, they know how to play you. But either way, I made sure she was happy in the end, and I sure as hell was.
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See my report on my Havana trip to understand the circumstances of my mongering, since they were the same in Santiago, where I stayed for 5 days. Again, the best bet during the day is the Parque Cespedes where the same modus operandi applies as I mentioned in my Havana comments. You will also find girls, particularly later in the day, on the streets leading out from the Parque in a direction away from the port. Never paid more than $20 (usually not even discussed until it was time to part), and again we had to hunt for rooms, which ran from $12 to $20. Here, as in Havana, most of the girls I encountered were dark-complexioned to mulatta.
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Always when I am in Santiago I go to the Casa de la trova for great Cuban music...and hot Cuban beauties to pick up. You won't be dissappointed.
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Hello everyone,
I shall be in Guardalavaca (near Holguin) for family vacations from March 12 to March 19, 2004. But I intend to go to Santiago alone for the hubby for at least one day. Let me know if any of you can be there around that time and/or if you have advices or contact persons to facilitate this; other than the info already posted on this board. You can send me a private message as well.
Thanks!
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Wow. I'm surprised there is not more action being reported involving Santiago. I was in Cuba for 3 weeks in late January and spent time in both Habana and Santiago as well as points in between and Santiago was a much better place to monger overall than Habana. In Habana I witnessed several occasions where girls were led off by the arm to police cars as well as dozens of interogations. In Santiago the LE didn't seem to care in the slightest. I found the going rate to be $20 to $30 plus $10 to $20 for the casa. Girls did occasionally ask for $50 but willingly took less. If your Spanish is decent and you have some charisma (not necessarily looks) then a night on the town or perhaps less should be sufficient with the non to semi-pros. I found a little hole in the wall with bar stools off of Parque Cespedes in the same block as the cathedral where I managed to get phone numbers from 3 of the female employees, all at least 7's, using very broken Spanish. As for the easy pickings, they could mainly be found in Plaza Dolores between Parque Cespedes and Plaza de Revolucion during the day. Most are black young, enthusiastic and in the 5 to 7 range. At night, Parque Cespedes and the street between Plaza Dolores and Plaza Dolores itself hop. The girl to guy ratio was probably 5:1. My sense from Santiago is that girl friendly casas are probably much easier had than Habana and there is much less risk to the girl.
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Well, I've been to Santiago for six days. The place is great. There were some nice looking girls out there! The action is the best at night between 1900 and 24.00 hours. Between parc cesperes and plaza the revolution there are lots of girl. I had no ploblem at all with the police. When you hold the girl right next to you, you'll never be in any problem. Found a good casa particular in the center. There is some problem with the registration of the girls in the casa's. The best tip i can give you girl-lovers is to find a casa which will not register the girl when you take them home. Because when the casa owner once ask her for her ID, you will be stuck with that girl for the rest of your stay, until you find another casa. The price is almost everytime 20 dollars. For that money she will stay the night with you if you want to. Dont stay in a hotel, because then you pay 10-15 dollars for a casa particular or you pay 50 dollars to the securityguard at the hotel. Some nice places to go are de casa de la musica or the discobar at the back of hotel santiago. But do not go there for the girls because they are pro's (nice but expensive). Just take the girl from the street to there and have some great fore-play. Have a nice time and write it to this forum! Bye Cuba Music
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Hey CIA,
I have a steady in Santiago and whenever I go, yes Santiago is much better place than Havana. Some people would argue this point but I like Santiago alot not just because of the steady that I have there but because there are so many great looking girl. Here is a pic of my girlfriend next door neighbor. She is extremely hot. Most of the girl in Santiago are in this mold. I just wish she did not live next door to my girl.
El Cubanito
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The girl who gave the profound sexual experience of my life didn't show up for the next day. So I took a taxi to her address.
She lives in a beautiful town near Santiago called La Maya. This town is situated within mountains among sugar cane fields. Only here you get the real sense of Cuban life.
Anyways, she couldn't show due some family problem, which has been sorted out. I am meeting her this evening in Santiago and she is going to stay with me for the rest of the trip.
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El Cubanito, Thanks for that photo. I like Chicas like that one.
You can probably give me more information on this.
Although, Policia weren't much of a hassle in Santiago interms of Chica action, I got the impression that Santiago and the surrounding towns were most closely watched by CDR than Havana. Many people told me that it is impossible to rent an illegal apartment in Santiago.
I am planning to Live in Santiago for 3 - 6 months, strictly on budget.
El Cubanito, I am wondering if you can help me with finding an illegal apartment for my stay at lower cost. I am of East Indian origin. I am 28 years old and going on 29 this month. I would easily pass for a Cuban, only if I speak fluent Spanish.
I have made couple of good contacts in Santiago with regular Cubans who can be of much help.
When I was in Santiago, I visited the Universidad there. Nice place to hang out and make contacts with regular girls. When I was at the University, I was able to talk to couple of regular girls with my limited Spanish. Forming a relationship with regular girls will take some time. It can't be done in 5 days and fluent Spanish is absolutely necessary.
El Cubanito, Do you know that if this University in Santiago offers courses in Spanish for beginners.
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Lankan_Lover
Cuba doesn't exist courses. Education is free for locals. I would use this as excuse to flirt with University girls. I am 99.9% sure, you will get more than a spanish lesson in return.
Dutchman
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Lankan_Lover,
I do not know about the University of Santiago, but the University of Havana does have private teachers to teach you spanish. Lankan_Lover, you will have to pay for these teachers. To be honest I do not know how much they charge, but I have seen and met a buch of Canadians, Americans and Brittish folks getting taught English at the Havana Libre Hotel. I asked this American guy that I met and he say is one full sementers of learning Spanish with a private Teacher. I know what you guys are thinking, if aside from being tutor one can get any action with these teachers. The teachers that I saw were woman over the age of 50 and they look quite UGLY. I would not fuck these women even with Fidel Dick.
Lankan_Lover, I have also heard that the University of Santa Clara also offers the same, so I would assume that the University of Santiago offers the same also. I once met a couple of South Africans who were at the Melia Santiago Hotel using the internet who kind of said that they were learning spanish from this lady that I know of in Santiago. But to be honest I do not know if she is associated with the University. She does live by the University right on the Carreteral Central that goes to the Virgen De Caridad Statue.
When you go back just ask the students they will be able to refer you to the Department if the University has one.
I hope this help
El Cubanito
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My source who lives in SDC tells me the Santiago carnival is July 20-28.
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Petrolero,
Many thanks ... I will start making plans right now ...
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Those dates are correct. They were starting to set things up when I was there last week. I wish I could go back on the 20th. Here's a pic of a couple chicas who know what they want.