The stages like our looks ratings do not apply
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2509888]That is a nice problem to have right DC? LOL. You did it up right my man.
When I invested more time and a little more money into them, there was a very positive response. My iron clad rule about not turning hookers / strippers into SBs may not be true in Colombia and if so, I am not sure what role SA has then outside of finding that rare level 1 type.
Thing when I say stuff like this is and it makes it seem like I am a push over. I have been with dozens in Santa Fe and strip clubs, maybe more, and these two were the only two where I even considered advancing to a stage 2. On top of that, I am always looking to upgrade my level 2 relationships, and that means cutting myself off from women time and money wise even if there are hard feelings, and I cut off three potential SBs this trip. Two of the women did not take it well.[/QUOTE]All the intellectual banter & ratings aside. REAL available Colombian women (not the hookers) close to 1/2 of the Seeking girls. Challenge any pre-existing thinking we bring with us from the USA. I try to explain the difference to my brainwashed friends. When they see photos of the girls I am seeing here. They think it's not possible. When I tell them their actual professional backgrounds or that they are students of law, engineers, stewardesses, models etc. They go into denial. Finlay when I mention they want relationships above money and are financially secure and want someone to respect them at their level. That is far beyond almost anyone in Sex Prisons comprehension. LOL Even here on this "mongering" list. So give up all that false logic and enjoy. Find your #1's & 2's. 9's & 10's The path may be tough, the rewards exceptional.
You do not need to speak Spanish for Parque Lleras.
[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2510249]I think it is easier for those who do not speak Spanish to utilize SA rather than approach girls at Parque Lleras and as mentioned previously, SA takes way less time to sort the girls out and book appointments than FB. You just set up a profile, pay membership and send generic messages to the ones you like. I always try to get their WhatsApp number first and then move there. I also tell them right away that I don't like back and forth texting and prefer meetings in person, that saves a lot of my time. If you a going there for a month, which in my opinion is ideal length of any trip, SA would cost you about $3 a day. And monthly AirBnbs are 30-50% cheaper, flights are usually cheaper too (especially on cost per day basis). There is a good chance of finding a non-pro who just joined, Steve wrote about in the SA thread.[/QUOTE]My Spanish is embarrassingly bad. I have completed 3 months /90 lessons on Pimsleur. I know some basic words, phrases, and greetings. Thats it. These girls could care less about your Spanish in Parque Lleras. If you present yourself like they are lucky to get a nice payday with you, your going to get what you want. I have seen guys clearing pushing 60 and not in great shape even for their age dancing and drinking with smoke shows in Medellin. Especially in Gustos.
I can definitely see value in SA if your staying a month. I too noticed you need to cut the bullshit on SA and just be forward with what you want and exchange numbers ASAP. I saw a poster stated that half the girls on SA are non-pros. I just find that hard to believe. Like I said, I never fucked a girl from SA in Medellin so I can't speak from experience and I think we all know you can bang way hotter non-pro girls in Medellin than you ever could in USA, but to state that half of them are non-pros on SA just seems really hard to believe. I could see half them blurring the line between semi-pro and non-pro, but if a woman signs up for SA, its not because she is looking for dick, I am pretty sure Colombian guys have that, its because they want a cock that also comes with some form of cash. Hey maybe I am wrong, I was blown away when I realized my privileged life in the USA could score me gorgeous women in Latin America so maybe it is true. I am returning late December-early January for a longer trip and I can assure this forum that I have no shame whatsoever and I will be trying to fuck every woman I meet in Medellin. I think if I decide to stay longer than two weeks, which is possible, then I m going to give SA another shot. If anything its fun to creep on the hot latinas on the website haha.
Surfer surfer surfer wake up
Sometimes I am shock you consider yourself a veteran at Centro. The entire situation cost me 46 mil pesos including hotel. Thats $13. What happens in Centro means nothing as long as you walk out alive. Its like your not paying anything. Like a young man said. Its stick and move. Its not worth being a master in centro. I think you put weigh too much claim and ownership to centro. There's really way more to Colombia than centro. The place has become my go to if theres cancellation or I am shifting a date to another day. I share my story. Its nothing to be ashame about. I get nothing to be a superstar on this forum. So why should I tell superman stories. Surfer surfer. Wake up. Its not that serious. Its centro.
We talking $10 to $15. Not $50 $75 or $300.
By the way surfer. Centro has a body type for every mans preference. So your taste will vary from the next man. What centro lack is class and style of women.
[QUOTE=Surfer500;2510227]Well you admitted to making a major rookie mistake in that you paid the girl first, and I will take the blame for this on your behalf, in that you appear to have followed some of my insiders tips, however I failed to mention that besides telling them what you will pay you also need to tell them that you always pay afterwards before going upstairs with them. In Spanish you can just say "yo siempre pago despues" . If they refuse this beforehand, than don't bother going with them or your setting yourself up for, hurry up and leche, more money, and oh you so big which happened to you.
There are a lot of pitfalls in dealing with the El Centro girls, and I have been thru my share of them, and I give you credit for posting what happened to you as you may be chastised by others on this. But 30 K is not going to break you!
Also, and this is just a personal thing, I don't focus on the really pretty girls when I am there, as they know lots of guys want this, however I am more focused on their bodies.
Maybe consider going with one that appears to have a killer body versus one with a pretty face as well.
You might be surprised as to what happens.[/QUOTE].
Premier plaza / big date tomorrow / the difference
Premier plaza Is 16 mil for 1 HR. The chicas normally stay 20,30, 40,50 minutes. Varies. It was a day I just wanted to see a girl naked and do my thing. I wasnt going to fuss over $8 upfront. Tomorrow with the dime I pay $50 to $70. Now that's when I do not give the money first unless she's a prepago cause then you have to pay first. Medellin you have to be flexible and understand some rules you stick to and some rules because of cost. You say fuck it.
[QUOTE=JohnnyO;2510214]Your report style is bizarre, funny, amusing, intriguing, unique, addictive and straight up original. How much are you normally paying for the room at plaza and is it by the hour or 30 minutes or what's the deal? Also how often are you paying these centro hookers up front or is it not something you normally do? I really hate paying girls upfront and I have at times just called the deal off if they insist because then they hold all the cards, they've already been paid so they've no incentive to perform or stick around.[/QUOTE].
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FB, El Centro, photoprepagos, casas Part 1
This is the Part 1 of the multipart report.
My writing skills are very bad, so please excuse me in advance.
Just returned back from 16 days trip to Medellin and I had a blast. I had around 30 sessions between FB, El Centro girls, casas and photoprepagos (the exact number will come at the end as I promised myself before the trip to take notes but it never happened and now I have to go through the pictures, WhatsApp and FB messenger conversations to restore the names and dates). I will not reveal the names and prices for FB girls (with some exceptions) and won't grade them as 6,7,8,9,10 as beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I can only say that I paid from 40 MIL (not typo the story will come in the last part) to 250 MIL for FB girls. Most sessions were very good, some amazing, couple partially disappointed and one was complete disaster (El Centro).
I had a flight on COPA at 1:36 AM Friday 11/20. I worked all day Thursday (remotely) and for couple hours tried to fill the required form from my laptop at [URL]https://apps.migracioncolombia.gov.co/pre-registro/public/preregistro.jsf[/URL] but it was failing all the time. Believe me I knew what I was doing (I'm an IT professional) but I couldn't get through. Finally gave up and decided to solve it at airport. Arrived to airport, performed Web check-in and at counter was told that without the form they won't let me go. Started to fill the form on my phone (pain in the ass to fill passport expiration date) but it was failing again giving me an error message saying that I already have a record with the same travel data. Showed my phone to very nice COPA security person, he called supervisor and I was told to make screenshot of an error and show it at the counter and it was the happy end of the story. I put so many details in case somebody else had the same issue: don't sweat it just make a screenshot or use mine (I'm attaching the image) and you're done!
Arrived to Medellin, was asked for the form, showed the same screenshot (please make sure that your phone is charged) and that's it. I had couple hundreds mil from the previous trip, so went to the second floor bought Claro SIM card for 15 days with 2 GB of data for 26 MIL and took 13 MIL bus to San Diego Mall. From there 8 MIL taxi to San Peter (I had first 6 nights booked at San peter), checked in, had lunch across the street, went to Exito to buy rom, beer, water, fruits and some food. WhatsApped JjBee62 who was staying at the same building and he advised me to use BBVA ATM across the street with no fee. Got money and started arranging the first date.
During my last September trip I was staying at Botero Hotel and spent a lot of time with PolloNegro and Nounce at El Centro so I played only El Centro girls, casas and Tinder. Prior to this trip (which was planned for the April but delayed till November) I decided to give FB a try. I collected 220 chica friends in Medellin, so I worked through the list and choose 40 that I really wanted to have. 2 weeks prior the arrival I started messaging them saying I will be soon in Medellin, want to meet and asking for WhatsApp: 34 replied and provided WhatsApp. At 5 pm started messaging girls from the list checking who is available to come right now: 5 were available and I choose Mely Mayho (exception with the name and price you'll understand why soon). She was reviewed couple times here and I really liked her pictures. She wanted 250+taxi but agreed for 200+taxi for 2 hours at 8 pm. She arrived at 8:15 and I was asked to come down and pay for the Uber which was 22 MIL. She was very beatifull, amazing body and very sweet. Beer, kisses, shower and we're in the bed: kisses, hugs, real GFE and she's starting BBBJ. She's very good and in 20 minutes I couldn't hold myself anymore and exploded in her mouse holding her head down. She jumped from the bed and ran to the bathroom very angry (we didn't discuss CIM). She returns back completely different person with angry face and said she need to go because her mother called: I assume she had a headset inside her head as she had no any smart watch and her phone was in other room on the kitchen counter and didn't ring LOL. I said we agreed for 2 hours and just 40 minutes past you won't get the full amount, she waved her hand and get dressed. I get dressed also to walk her out of the building and give her money outside. She grabbed her beer can and we stepped out from the building. We're staying in front of the building and she's requesting I got taxi for her, I said you do it yourself and handed her 100 MIL, she started screaming give me more money I turned and coming back to the building, she throw the beer can which hit the glass door. She's following me inside come to the register desk and screams she call the police. The register girl Ana Maria (very nice girl) is in shock. I'm trying to explain her what happened (my Spanish is 50 words + Google translator). Mely dials the number, put speaker on and calling cops to come, they asking for address and details, Ana Maria tell them the address and now I'm thinking. Hi Blakman, I'm stepping in your shoes. I'm ready to cut losses and asking how much do you want expecting to hear some big number and she says 50 MIL WOW. I said wait here go up grab the money, go down, give her 50 MIL and she's gone(next day she unfriended me and blocked). Handed 5 mil to Ana Maria for troubles, came back to apartment and pour myself scotch (brought from US). Messaged JjBee62 to check if he's available to talk and came to his apartment couple floors below. Told him the story and asked to write report about it as I like his writing style, but later changed my mind and decided to do it myself.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2509487]There's really no way to compare sessions between mongers, even with the same girl. The girl who left you disgusted is going to blow some other guy's socks off. The girl who fucked you senseless might be a boring fuck for the next guy.[/QUOTE]I can't say better. It should be written to the monger's 101.
Conclusion of the story: Mely is very beautiful girl with nice body and amazing skills (IMHO) but could become the wild tiger, you've been warned, YMMV.
After that JjBee62 and I went to Fase Dos where we met another 2 BMs. JjBee62 covered details in his post on the next day. It was fun to spent time with guys, but FaseDos is not my cup of tea: I hate silicon and of all girls I would take only one Yeraldine, took her WhatsApp but she wanted 500 MIL to come to apartment so it never happened. After some time I started feeling exhausted because of sleepless night with flights etc and 3 of us went home. The end of day 1 and Part 1. To be continued.