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hey ya all am planning a trip to brazil but not exactly sure on the dates soon but it should be within the next few months or weeks. hey j wadd i doubt november i can hook up withyou in brazil since i think november and december i should be back in the us. i think if i go i it will be only rio and sao paulo for only a total of 5 days. shit i need help too i am a fairly damn handsome man of 34 years old from the us chicago area who also speaks polish and spanish too but do not know any portugese at all. i am very nervous on that plus also nervous on streetcrime in rio and sp. how do i stay out of trouble in these cities? how will my spanish help or not help out in brazil???????' i would like to find some good cheap massage or street action in these two cities even info on sex parties. i am now on messenger with my buddy from the us who just came back from brazil he told me he checked out a sex party orgy i think in rio. yeh all info on sex clubs and sex parties would be great too. oh i would love to have info on rio and sp if any old fashioned burlesque houses exist in porno theateres in rio and sp. how about sexxx shops? i heard in rio exists live peep shows like the ones in nyc or sfc in the us. man this would be interesting to know about. oh too what about cafe shops like in buenos aires,,, ok out of here,,,,,,,, nibu r.....
Heya Nibu -- glad to see you ave your own section. I should be in S. America all the way through late January. Maybe we can hook up around then?
JWadd
Hi Bro JW Yeh Man We shall See I am not sure might be in the US with my girl for a year then but I think in janurary I will try to visit Puerto Rico for three weeks. Shit probably will take my girl then later that year in 2004 to Alaska plus also visit mystical places in New Mexico like Roswell,Las Crucis,Santa Fe and other mystical spots in New Mexico. Will try other parts in the US too plus Canada and maybe like Merida Mexico that would be all cool. That Is What the Long Run looks for Me. These Stupid Imigration Laws for The Us My Girl must then stay like a year and a half in the US,,, You Can not keep on coming back and forth no problem for My Kid Which I had with her but problems with her cause of Stupid Customs Oh Well She would be more better coming in Ilegal How Much Hypocrisy in the Us. OK Man Off of that Subject I am trying more on my travels Maybe One day Just Meet you in Denver. Hey yeh Too Never ever been To Puerto Rico in my life but If I go I will also hit other metro cities not just San Juan. I Will try for Rincon,Carolina,Ponce,Mayaguez and other places. Yeh JW we will meet up somewhere in this world. Just Tell me How Much Portugese I need on my second trip here to Brazil. Foz was great But this will be Fucking Rio and SP Much bigger cities. Ok JW also keep in touch with me at my 3 e mails too,,, Your Pal Nibu....
O.k. -- sounds good. I'll update you on my travel-status in a few months.
Peace out,
JW
Hi Nibs back here at all you. Yeh I will try this wedsday to go to the Braziian embassy for my visa I think it is only a 100 bucks and takes less then 48 hours to process. I think I will visit Sao Paulo first for two days then Rio. Can anyone tell me how long the trip on plane from SP To Rio is? What city is more dangerous. I would say SP. Where can cheaper SeXXX action be found in SP or Rio. Where are the better attitudes of girls in Rio Or SP????? Hey JW buddy can you help me out on some of thse Questions? Johan what about you? Johan I would disagree with you on Lima Girls the same with Dan Da Man they are not Snobs some are but you must of gone to the wrong places. Do not know anything on Rio or SP But look at my reports on Foz that city kicked ass and I was only in that city for the day time for less then 90 minutes. I would say the worst attitudes of Girls in SA is in BA,Argentina. The city kicks ass but for a country in economic chaos why all the attitudes???? Yeh On Argentina great to visit that country from time to time but could not live there for two years like I am living in Peru now. OK Again so probably the middle of next week I should be in Brazil. I mentioned this in my posts but no one answered yet CRIME CRIME. what must I avoid on this situation???? What aboout the Taxis like safety issues??? Ok Man I hope some one can reply here to my posts very throughly,,,,, NIBU R... Ps What is the weather like now in Rio and Sao Paulo??
hey any info on villa mimosa and villa sampa and cheap brothels in centro????? what about live peep shows and old fashioned burlesque joints????? yeh all this info for rio......................
Nibu
Rio is warm all year long but right now balmy. SP a shade cooler.
Both cities have violence. In Rio I would not take the bus but metro and taxis are safe. Same for SP, I'd stick to Jardins if I were you. I would not walk at night in SP even a block. Rio is very safe as long as you stay within tourist area in Copa. I don't think it gets dangerous till very late at night but pickpocket can occur at any time of the day.
You can buy ticket at counter at airport to fly SP-Rio. Make sure to use local airports, Santos Dumont in Rio and Conghonas in SP. 40 min flight at most, more 35 min. Look for VASP, TAM airlines for best prices, a flight every 50 min. One way can go as low as R$165. RT R$200 if you're lucky, R$350 otherwise.
Nibu,
Try Gol airlines for local flights in Brazil. They are a discount outfit run by a family that started as a bus company. Brazil's answer to SouthWest Airlines. SP to Rio is 45 minutes.
Take cabs at night, don't walk around the streets and invite trouble. And don't get drunk or high, that's an invitation for a mugging or worse. I heard of guys that got drugged and woke up without their kidneys. Right in Copacabana, so stay straight and keep a low profile and you will be fine.
BB
Hey JW SAw your post in the Nibu section in Peru Need to respond to you on that.. Yeh JW and all others I am trying to get my ass to Brazil next week but am very confused on the Visa situation. I have my family from Chicago visting me now maybe they can go to the Brazilian embassy with me this week since they have credit cards and all,home,mortgage,etc When I have no Credit cards or work stubs. Fuck How Hard or easy is it to get a Visa to Brazil????? I am going to try to get my visa this week at the Brazilian embassy in Miraflores LIma Peru Which is on Ricardo Palma past Comindante Espinar. Sorry everyone out there this Visa shit is on my mind now. OK Man So I am trying for 5 days to 7 days maximum on this Sao Paulo to Rio Fun That will after all probably happen anyways. I heard the customs in Brazil is very documented oriented. Hey JW You might have better luck getting a Visa to live in LIma Peru permanent then Brazil. Oh Can anyone answer what is the exchange rate now???? I heard it is 3.10 reales to the Us Dollar now Sounds good. Hey I need info on where the cheapest Termas are in Rio and Sao Paulo And Again yeh Sorry again info on Crime that is keeping me very alert. I heard I think in SP And Rio too Theives try to Rob cars at night at stop signs and TRaffic lights. I heard from 10 pm to 6 am is the time they do this.. Oh Yeh Some info on the cheap brothels of rio LIke Villa Mimosa and other cheapies in centro, ThanXXX,NIBU...
Ah Everyone looks like my Visa Will be accepted tommorrow and tuesday I take care of all this and I will post What days I come to Brazil. Yeh I will CUM By Myself probably the first or 2nd week of JUne. I think for 7 days a few days in Rio and a few days in SP. I will have a hotel included in my package but probably only 500 Bucks to spend. I need info on cheap brothels and streetwalkers in Rio and Sao Pulo. Is any other fellow Sexhounds going to be in Rio And SP in early june? I mentioned this before But No one really answered me on this. I am from Chicago US and speak only 3 languages English of Course,Spanish and POlish But no POrtugese. How far will that set me back? I guess Spanish mixing with simple Portugese will be better then just with English?????? OK Again info on Crime too That is scaring me. Hey do the POlice still shoot young kids who are theives???? I think they used to do that in the past all the time and Brazil got Shit for that for human rights abuses. They were actually killing these kid theives future Adult Theives.... Oh Well Brazil definitly seems more on the wild side then Lovely Peru. Oh No one ever answered me on the question of the cheap brothel in centro Rio I think called Villa Mimosa???? I need good info too on apartment massage girls or indepent girls in apartments in Rio and Sao... One last thing What about services for Bondage and S/M I am sure those ads exist in the local papers and Sex Mags?????? Hey Someone help me on all this... Maybe Johhny Wadd my pal you can respond to me on this... OK Man take care you all,, Sincerly NIBS..............
OOOOPs Sorry but a quick post here I need info also too on the Metro subways in Rio and Sp.. How do they get you around the city???? LIke to SEx Destinations and shopping places???? What time are both Metros open? How much is the price and Do day passes exist???? Yeh this would be very interesting in getting around. I guess City Buses are dangerous. Oh What Taxis should I take that are Reliable?????
I always took a taxi to the places I went in both SP and Rio -- it's not that expensive and I hate wasting time when I travel. SP, especially, requires this as the city it too large to travel via bus quickly.
I only went Foto while in SP. That was enough. But it's expensive -- try the huge discos or the SWs around the lower side of the Hilton. Some of my older posts should have all the specific info -- I can't remember names now.
As for Rio -- I only went to Help and that other club everyone talks about -- can't remember its name. Both are only o.k. Nothing to get worked up about. The street action in Rio isn't all that good. Mainly on Atlantico, and mainly TVs.
As for S&M, I don't know. Sorry. Wish I could be more help.
Are you going to be in Peru in October?
Happy Hunting,
JWadd
---nibu, here's an earlier post of mine on rio, dec 2002
just recently got back from a 5 week vacation in brazil and this is my first real chance to post to wsg on rio. i was able to compare some interesting facts and trivia regarding rio vs. other cities.
the moment you fly into brazilian air space, you feel this indescribable feeling. for me it starts with my skin becoming moist and delightfully sweaty and then works it way down to a swelling libido. it’s magical and the feeling doesn’t seem to end until you leave brazilian air.
so i am back and its great to be back. all sounds, sights and smells of rio, come rushing back, the good the bad and the ugly. i’ve been coming to brazil since 1990 (the good ole days), but was committed in a several relationships up until 2000 (the new millennium). thank heavens i came to my scenes.
so i fly down from canada and for me it’s a 24 hour trip (vancouver-la-miami-rio). yeah! i know it a ways to come, but rio is worth it, imho (i would have traveled for three days to get here). i hit the airport and there are the usual "cambio" and "taxi" hustlers, hounding you for some business. if you’re a fugal traveler like myself and want to spend your hard earned cash on the skirts rather than the taxis, you’ll make like a veteran tourist or regular brazilian and take the bus. taxis will want about r$40 to copacabana. the bus is about r$5 and takes about 45 min to 1 hour.
as for cash, i used the atm at the airport, with my visa card (which i prepaid prior with a couple thousand, thereby eliminating any interest payments). the bradesco bank atms will recognize an english visa cards and will then use english instructions. depending on what time you arrive, there should be "cambio" hustlers or actually "cambio" exchanges in the airport. i relied on the atm, but also brought a little us$ dollars just in case the atms were down.
---nibu get a map. note: the airport is a terrific place to find information. they usually speak english at the information desk and tell you where everything is. i usually ask a ton of questions. i also pick up free maps and information booklets of the city and tourist sites.
note: my portuguese, needs work, but is growing and i can manage, basic conversation for the most part. i recommend, learning as much portuguese as possible for the best maximum experience and meeting the best looking skirts for romantic, hot sex or gf experience.
note: basic prices are quoted from memory and are basically all within + or - r$10. you also pay more for long periods of time and luxury rooms.
---rio termas
as much as i love the termas, i have done enough of them to realize what i want, depending on what kind of playfully mood a happen to be in. typically, i am interested in a gf type or non-jaded (semi-pro) garota experience (at least at the price they’re asking). this can be tough to find at a termas, since most are pros but ever so often there some gems. so i typically attend termas for rest, relaxation and lots of eye candy. with the remote possibility the gf girl of my dreams. at any rate, i personally find them getting too expensive for only 40 min to 1 hour engagements. although i do admit the garotas (girls) in the termas are some of the best rio.
rio antiga (flamingo) was a new termas for me to try. i heard good things (from the guys who i rented the apartment from), so off i went to try it out. enter=r$40/girl=r$100. nothing special your basic average termas. girls were about average that evening, with one or two stunners. they were friendly, as i received a number of hand massages below the belt of my robe. didn’t do a session with any girls, as i was content with being entertained in the disco. about 25-35 girls
monte carlo (copacabana) e=r$40/g=r$110. wanted to hookup with one of the twins again, but didn’t see any of them, both times that i went looking. 1st time, didn’t see any garotas worth having and the 2nd time took a sexy mulata with a butt to die for. she was the reason i missed my flight back to canada. not that i wanted to go anyway.
btw, does anyone know where the twins, that were at monte carlo about a year ago, have gone?
4x4 (centro) e=r$30/e=$130. this was the happening place. garotas like you wouldn’t believe. about 50 –60 girls. definitely had the best girls in rio, out of all the termas i went to on this trip. this place gets packed to the rafters with the business crowd, so get there early. the shows, which i don’t usually care for, where for the most part interestingly different, as some audience participation was encouraged. can’t comment any girl sessions, but an abundance of 8s to 10s.
rosario 65 (centro) e=r$45/g=r$130. disappointing, since i was so impressed with the caliber of garotas last year. after 1 hour, i was out there and headed for 4x4, which happens to be a couple of blocks away.
centuras (ipanema) e=??/g=??. didn’t go this time out. went last year and was not impressed. over priced and overrated. the caliber of garotas here, can easily be found at other termas. not sure why it’s often rated as the premier termas.
solarium (jardim botanica) e=r$40, r$90 (wed.)/g=r$110. i love exploring and finding new and different experiences when traveling. wednesday nights at solarium, sure did cum through. hooked up with mr.sob777 for some swingers action at solarium, where swinging couples are allowed on wednesdays. witnessed some very interesting sh*t in the dry and wet saunas, as some gang bang type scenarios took place. i personally groped some t&a, while more serious body slapping doing the wild thing, took place. these free for all sex sessions happened several times during the course of the evening with different couples. if the couple likes you enough, i was told, they may ask you to join them in a room. wow!! i think sundays are swinging couples only, but i didn’t get a chance to check it out, with a date.
beach girls formally (copacabana) e=r$20/g=r$50. garotas were below average with one or two above average. only about 8 girls working, as they are trying to build up the business. but they were very friendly and worked hard to pleasure you for the business. would not recommend this termas for the girls. however, i think this maybe the only termas that allows you to get nasty in the sauna with a girl. i had never fu*ked in the saunas before, so i had to try, especially after my semi-sauna action at solarium.
mr. sob777, was with me at the time, so we both, having never done this before, got wild and nasty. we both agreed it was a great experience, as we both got to sample each others garotas, in the wet heat. this termas is worth mentioning for some cheap relaxation and great sauna action if you happen to find a hottie working there. one last thing, make sure you have plenty of energy, before hand, as sex in the sauna will literally suck (forgive the pun) your energy dry.
l’uomo (copacabana) didn’t get a chance to visit, but i heard good things. maybe next time.
something else worth mentioning was some orgy party action i was often asked to participate in. as we got to meet other men (non wsg members) mostly brasilaros (as opposed to tourists from other countries), they would ask us to grab a skirt you wanted to do the nasty with and come and join them in one of the big luxury rooms. wow!! this happened a number of times where 3 to 4 couples would get into a big orgy. wow!! what a way to maximize your bang for your bucks and fu*k, more than one girl at a time. i didn’t partake in the affairs, but will consider this option next time.
i will occasionally, find a garota i like and discretely get her number (assuming you’ve developed a connection) and date her outside of the termas. this is a more cost effective solution and often leads to a better gf experience then a quickie at the temas.
thanks to mr.sob777, for the great times at 4x4, solarium and especially beach girls. you were lots of fun to hang with and like myself, you loved to explore new things and venture into new realms.
---help disco
not much to say about help disco, that hasn’t alredy been said. i’ll say this much though, the garotas at help sure are asking for some premium dollars. i just laughed and reminded the garotas that this was brazil and not america or europe. i had to laugh when quoted anywhere from r$400-r$200. do i have "idiot" painted on my forehead?
i never did take a girl from help. don’t get me wrong, i was there almost every night of my stay (mostly because i do enjoy the "eye candy" and love to dance) and there were an endless number of hotties that i liked and wanted to get "jiggy with". i just couldn’t bring myself to pay the premium dollars they were asking. not when there were lots of young 20 year old hard body sw on avendia atlantica, from r$50-r$80 for 1-1.5 hrs. wow!!
what was even funnier, were the ugly girls at help. they were asking between r$300 and r$150. somehow the collective thinking of the girls at help, is to demand premium dollars, just because they are in help disco. not!! i think it was a collective effort too, because none of them, i talked with would go below r$150.
but wait, it gets better. many of the same girls i had talked to earlier that wanted r$300-r$150, often left help alone and then began trying to seek some action outside of help, along avendia altantica. just like the regular sw. but this time they were only asking r$60-150. this is my spiders web, in which i trap my prey. i realize i don’t always get the garotas when i want, but i am a patient spider. it’s a game, right! and the garotas know this all to well. knowing how to play the game is part of fun.
--- other termas, discos and considerations
one of the things i really enjoyed about my time in rio, was that i was able to explore downtown i lot more. found various underground vendors selling bootleg merchandice and knock-off commercial goods and clothing. several vendors caught my interest selling software cds for r$10 – r$20 (microsoft office, windows xp, norton utilities …etc) basic plethora of black-market activity. needless to say, i picked up some great deals. vendors are located near the carioca subway station. (subway details are on the map that you pick up at the airport)
due to some downtown exploration (and a great deal of luck and happenstance), i found what might be considered to some two new termas. its possible they may have be been mentioned briefly before previous post. so as i explored and found these gems downtown, i started to wonder how many more of these clubs exist. they are not "rich" as 4x4, rosario 65, but still have a very nice charm to them. what i truly love about some of these places was they put you more in touch with the common ordinary man. ok! ok! i know i’m full sh*t. the real reason was that it was reasonably priced.
the first is located just around the corner from the florida and scandinavia boites on rua do acre and i think its called 10-10 (10-23) termas. the second is located on the main drag avenida rua branco (on a side street), just opposite the manhattan bank building (close to rua do ouvido and rua do setembro). i forget the name, but it has blue neon signage, which isn’t hard to miss. both open around 4pm.
both termases, e=r$10 (which gives you 3 drinks beers, soda and/or juice), g=r$50 for 40 min. or r$70 for 1 hour. the good thing is, no stupid mini robes with your dick hanging out. you get to keep wearing you own street clothes. the girls range from 6s to the odd 9. each termas has about 15 to 20 girls (depending on the night). no saunas or major changing areas, just two bars and rooms upstairs. one slow lounging bar to talk, (which is great when you don’t won’t to listen to the loud blaring techno), and the other a fast disco bar. no big sales pressures either.
these were my kind of termas. i had lot of fun at these termas for cheap and the girls were very friendly. i went to each one twice and had several garotas each time. what a bargin at r$50!! especially when you found a real hottie!! since they were in relatively close walking distance (about 6 blocks from each other) once i finished in one i hit the other (take a taxi if your squirmiest about walking downtown). all in all, some great fun to be had at a bargin.
i did get hooked (several times) on this one brunette mulata, named natalie. she was about 4 foot 6 inches, very small and petit, but stacked nicely where it counts. amazingly beautiful body and very agile between the sheets and fu*ked like a minsk in heat. she was even better the second time around, if you can believe that. wow!!
for those of you who like pro/semi-pro older women, also just around the corner from the florida and scandinavia boites on avenida rua branco, but before you get to avendia presidente vargas, there is a disco (not exactly sure of the name), but worth checking out. most of the women, i believe were on the program, however the pickings were very slim. many of the business men snapped up the best older mama senioritas, at about 11:30pm when i strolled in to checkout the place. they wanted r$15 cover charge. i looked around for 5-10 min. and left, due to other arrangements. worth a peek, if this is your thing!
i found a forro dance club (copacabana) near to the apartment i was staying at. located at av. n.s copacabana and rua republic do peru (towards rua paula fretias). entrance fee is r$6 - r$8, depending on the day. best days are usually thursday thru sunday. lots of the poorer local cariocas party here. there were 1 or 2 cuties, but most garotas (about 35 to 50) were mostly 5s to 7s. most girls seemed approachable and were probably semi-pro action. if you’ve got game and your portuguese isn’t too bad, there are some interesting possibilities for gf type action. i was partially successful as i almost left with one nicely intoxicated honey. this with limited portuguese, a smile and some lubrication. it did work 100%, but nothing ventured, nothing gained.
downtown rio was a great experience and has a lot to offer. take the subway from copacabana and exit at the carioca station (which is approximately the center of downtown). best to go during the day and take some time and go on a walk-about and get familiar with downtown surroundings.
---rio commentary
rio, will always be my favorite place to chase the skirts and garotas. however, after comparisons with other brazilian cites (notably fortaleza and to some degree recife), wh*re mongering in rio is getting expensive. i think the garotas, termas and businesses in rio are trying to keep on par with the us$ and adjusting their rates as if they were opec. personally, i think they will eventually price themselves out of the market. but sadly, there will always be gringos who will pay this. so their attitudes invariably turn to one of excessive greed and fast money. brazilians are well known for their quality of sexual hospitality, but in rio i think they’ve gotten away from this.
most of my fu*king came from sw along av. altantic, n.s copacabana, rua prado junior and downtown around florida and scandinavia boites. there were lot of sw, that are dogs, but there were also a lot of gems to found, if your willing to explore a little. i personally thought there were a number of sw on av altantic, as hot as many of the girls in help. of course much of this will depend on how you like to do your garota pussy chasing. i like a good bang for my buck, with the option of potential gf possibilities.
i also thought many garotas, are not only starting to sound like american women (gimme, gimme, gimme), but are starting to look like them as well (at least in one aspect). this year more than any other year (at least so it seemed to me), brazilian women have grown "beer guts". what is with the "beer gut"? yikes!! i guess when the price of water is about the same as beer, you drink because it’s just not sexy to drink water.
having said all that, i would like to say that rio, help disco and carioca women, will also be near and dear to my heart. i am only thankful there is enough variety and caliber of women, elsewhere, providing you’re willing to explore a little outside some of the more well known tourist sex venues.
---nibu, hope this helps. in general, i found several places, as reported above to be cheaper and more fun, for the adventurous type of guy.
just my two cents worth of thoughts, insights and experiences!! happy hunting!!
ciao
spidy
Spidy, hi from aussie !!
Great report mate.
I'm going to Rio I think about middle of June if all goes well with my court case with the ex-misses. I'm a bit like you, I'd like to meet semi-pro girls or non-pro's for gf !!, long term relationship ect !! Breeding program ect !! you know !!
I'm a fussy person, only like 10's !! drop dead gorjus type, slim, tall around 5' 9" and taller, very beautifull, the type that you can put your hands together around there waist and they dress to kill. big titties, age, around 18 to 20, yes I like them young !!!, I'm 43.
What do you think mate ?, am I asking to much !!!, where can I find the type !!
Waiting to hear from you, all the best, regards
Aussie Greg.