A new club on Germanies FKK heaven. [URL]www.fkk-oceans.de[/URL] . Direct on DUS international airport. Same style like Artemis Berlin. 200 girls should be there. Opening party soon. I will give you updates after the grand opening. Cheers RM.
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A new club on Germanies FKK heaven. [URL]www.fkk-oceans.de[/URL] . Direct on DUS international airport. Same style like Artemis Berlin. 200 girls should be there. Opening party soon. I will give you updates after the grand opening. Cheers RM.
200 girls, I'll believe it when I see it.
So people have been talking about this club for months now and it seems that the owner of Freude (and later Freude Herne, but not anymore) has something to do with it (which has led to a whole soap surrounding the two Bochum locations as well). The big name that is attached to it is Bert Wollersheim (or something like that), who is supposedly a well known face in the brothel business in Germany.
So the current situation is that it might open any day now, some people are mentioning tomorrow, but since there has been no advertising and no date on the website this seems unlikely. The initial plan was for a bigger club with a big garden (with a pool) and a big opening with some real white lions. The latest news is that there were no permits for the garden and the lions, so they are out. They are promising 200 girls, but only have 28 rooms (according to some sources only 18). So yeah, not likely if they want to make money. In general it seems the focus is more on champagne buying business men in Dusseldorf, than the regular club goers that spend money on the girls. We'll see what happens!
[QUOTE=FreeDude;1636226]So the current situation is that it might open any day now, some people are mentioning tomorrow, but since there has been no advertising and no date on the website this seems unlikely.[/QUOTE]Not opened yet, but on the website they already limited the opening times from the previous 11-07 to 11-05.
[QUOTE=Varenne;1636257]Not opened yet, but on the website they already limited the opening times from the previous 11-07 to 11-05.[/QUOTE]Yes. I saw that. It looked like they wanted to copy the opening times from FKK magnum. But that model is not successful. Like we see there.
Bed-and-Breakfast Dusseldorf Airport is on short walking distance. Location is the best I can imagine.
A couple of girls at different clubs I spoke with last week said they plan on checking out Oceans when it opens.
[QUOTE=Jymondor;1636352]Bed-and-Breakfast Dusseldorf Airport is on short walking distance. Location is the best I can imagine.[/QUOTE]Did you mean?
B&B Hotel Düsseldorf-Airport.
Theodorstrae 285.
40472 Düsseldorf.
Not official but the Netherlands forum called the owner and he told that the opening day is now the 31st of October!
For me pure amateurs and fake gossip talk white tigers, 200 girls, etc.
Same owner of Herne Freude39 Club. That club is right now closed.
Oceans prices 55 Euros for wellness and non alcohol drinks + extra euros for massage, alcohol, food! Sounds to me that's a trap for tourists.
[QUOTE=RempNobbes;1636221]A new club on Germanies FKK heaven. [URL]www.fkk-oceans.de[/URL] . Direct on DUS international airport. Same style like Artemis Berlin. 200 girls should be there. Opening party soon. I will give you updates after the grand opening. Cheers RM.[/QUOTE]I can't buy in 200 girls number. Let's see.
[QUOTE=RohanCid;1636515]I can't get to the FKK Ocean Dusseldorf thread, not even with Google.[/QUOTE]Hi Rohan,
Any luck with getting there? Has the club opened already, there is not much details on the website though. Let me know if you'v managed to get there and share your experience.
Cheers!
200+ girls? Is the same mangement as Magnum? They advertise 100+ girls there everyday. LOL. The girls pictured so far don't look that impressive. Sillies. They could have gotten better looking models atleast.
[QUOTE=DietCoke;1636474]Did you mean?
Be&be Hotel thesseldorf-Airport.
Theodorstrae 285.
40472 thesseldorf.[/QUOTE]Yep. Map says 240 meters of walking.
[QUOTE=Jymondor;1636699]Yep. Map says 240 meters of walking.[/QUOTE]240 metres!
Get a taxi.
[QUOTE=Nikcool10;1636628]Hi Rohan,
Any luck with getting there? Has the club opened already, there is not much details on the website though. Let me know if you'v managed to get there and share your experience.
Cheers![/QUOTE]I live in SoCal on a very limited budget and have never been to Germany.
No news so far from the general manager. Right know they are focusing on a opening party at Halloween weekend Friday or Saturday. I kept you updated. Cheers RM.
200 girls? What a laugh. There's too many clubs in NRW, so why should this club manage to have a decent line up with good looking girls providing great service right from the start? Never happened. And will not happen here.
I don't get it. Why are guys so excited about new clubs? There will be no different girls, not more money in the game from the guy's side, so why a new club?
HB.
[QUOTE=HessenBub;1637296]Why are guys so excited about new clubs? [/QUOTE]Because they forgot how much noise were around Magnum opening. I don't believe that lineup there will be any better than in Magnum. BTW Magnum holds firm position in my "do-not-revisit" list.
Planning to be in Dusseldorf next month. Does anyone know if Oceans is open yet. A partial website says "opening in late September".
[QUOTE=Warthog2837;1637992]Planning to be in Dusseldorf next month. Does anyone know if Oceans is open yet. A partial website says "opening in late September".[/QUOTE]Last I heard the planning is to open 31 October.
[QUOTE=FreeDude;1638041]Last I heard the planning is to open 31 October.[/QUOTE]It's now on website: 5 November from 21:00.
If you look at the website it looks liker there will be no food included in the 55 price tag. 200 girls for 18 (or 23) rooms and food extra at a price of 55. They surely don't seem interested in attracting regular visitors.
The website shows there are 23 rooms. 26 girls name are listed. Anyone has an idea of the price structure (30 min /60 min)?
Until the end of this year, the entry fee is 55 Eur for men, and free for women. It will attract some working girls around Dusseldorf area.
[QUOTE=FreeDude;1640548]They surely don't seem interested in attracting regular visitors.[/QUOTE]This is the nearest club to the Airport. What regular customers you are talking about? This must be typical bait&switch place for the occasional travelers.
[QUOTE=Jymondor;1640812]This is the nearest club to the Airport. What regular customers you are talking about? This must be typical bait&switch place for the occasional travelers.[/QUOTE]Panthera is also very close to the airport and is full of regular visitors. There are plenty of regulars in Magnum, Aca, LR, DV as well. I'm just saying Oceans doesn't seem to be interested in getting any of these to switch. They are looking for tourists, sort of like how Mauro fucked up Oase into a second rate club that most (former) regulars aren't interested in anymore. Except fro Syzygies that is.
14 hours left till the brave punters take that first dip into the ocean. Just imagine if oceans got it totally right this time amazing girls with great club hardware!!just imagine.
At least on opening evening, elegant visitors can stay in civies (robe and towels are available on request). Let's hope that at least the girls will honour the FKK designation.
Many guests and over 400 (guys, press, celebrities, friends) and lots of girls probably not the 200 quoted (YET) but it was the grand opening and very hard to gauge the.
Real atmosphere until another 2/3 weeks once all the DIY finished. The garden still bare with odd palm trees and wobbly paving slabs and loose cables everywhere.
55 euro entry (free yesterday) for men and 1 week free to the girls (source from GT girls) The rooms are very grand and plush (similar or better than Palace).
30 minutes 50 and 60 = 100. Recognized many girls from GT; Acup; LV, DV, Bochum and smaller clubs around NRW. This "could" be the next Artemis / Palace
in the NRW region in terms of luxury and.
Quality. Only time will tell it doesn't do a Magnum.
[QUOTE=Varenne;1641160]At least on opening evening, elegant visitors can stay in civies (robe and towels are available on request). Let's hope that at least the girls will honour the FKK designation.[/QUOTE]
Magnum on Sunday to Wednesday you will find many decent girls, they all go to other clubs on Thursday to Saturday.
Because Magnum attracts the gangster and drug dealers over weekends who only want to drink and smoke and not go into rooms.
[QUOTE=Jymondor;1637357]Because they forgot how much noise were around Magnum opening. I don't believe that lineup there will be any better than in Magnum. BTW Magnum holds firm position in my "do-not-revisit" list.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Simex;1641732]Many guests and over 400 (guys, press, celebrities, friends) and lots of girls probably not the 200 quoted (YET) but it was the grand opening and very hard to gauge the.
Real atmosphere until another 2/3 weeks once all the DIY finished. The garden still bare with odd palm trees and wobbly paving slabs and loose cables everywhere.
55 euro entry (free yesterday) for men and 1 week free to the girls (source from GT girls) The rooms are very grand and plush (similar or better than Palace).
30 minutes 50 and 60 = 100. Recognized many girls from GT; Acup; LV, DV, Bochum and smaller clubs around NRW. This "could" be the next Artemis / Palace
in the NRW region in terms of luxury and.
Quality. Only time will tell it doesn't do a Magnum.[/QUOTE]I did not make it to opening day, as Simex had indicated in his report. I knew it would be a zoo, so I made it there on Day #2. I will try and be as unbiased as possible. I have nothing to gain from this. I must also preface my report by saying that it is my first time in NRW, so I have very little to compare it against.
The Positives:
1) Everything, brand spanking new! The towels and the robes are very plush and comfortable. The rooms are excellent! Spacious and well furnished.
2) Nice layout for the club with a center stage for strip shows and pole dancers. Action started after 21:00 h.
3) Plenty of comfortable sofas and chairs.
4) No indoor smoking. (That is a personal plus for me, but I did say I would try and be unbiased.).
5) Easy to get to by public transportation and about a 15 minute walk. Sufficient parking for cars.
6) Full service bar, with free soft drinks, served by the bottle. Beers are about 5 Euros. Tall drinks are a bit more.
7) Caters to an upscale crowd with VIP treatment, sparklers on the vodka bottles, etc.
8) The soft sell approach of the ladies. This could be the result of the girls not having to pay for entry this week. Only time will tell, since they were not getting much action.
The Negatives:
1) The main area is quite dark to create the club atmosphere. Initially, the lights and the two mirror balls created this dance club atmosphere that I did not like. You cannot really see the girls.
2) There were not 200 girls. I bet you cannot fit 200 girls in that club comfortably, especially when the girls take up a lot of sofa space. (Not the slimmest group, but not too bad a lineup, later in the evening).
3) No free buffet. Food is an added cost from about 10 Euros to 30 Euros per entree. Although my "Mermaid" salad was tasty, I had to pick out a few fish bones from the grilled fillet. I waited 5 minutes before I was even greeted. Then the kitchen staff forgot my order and the waiter blamed the chef. This could use some fine tuning. The girl next to me ordered grilled pork, but got an undercooked steak instead. It could have used another few minutes on the grill.
4) The girls were wearing too much clothing. Although it helped some girls, overall this is supposed to be a FKK. One girl told me that the dress code up to 19:00 h is FKK, then evening gowns and lingerie at night. I got there before 19:00 h. None of the girls were naked.
5) Not the best looking lineup. I interviewed about 10 girls or so. They came from all different clubs around the area. Notably, Samya, PHG, Bochum and GT. If you are looking for slim, forget it. Maybe 10% of the girls would fall into that category, but that 10% was nice.
6) The dry sauna was too cold. The other steam saunas still smelled like the caulk had not yet cured. Should improve over time and some fine tuning.
7) Kino action was non-existent. They did not even have porn playing for a long time. I checked 3 times.
8) No bed sheets. You, and the girls had to lay down your own towels over the bed. Come on, really!
9) The club still needs some finishing touches. I complained about the lack of towel and robe hooks outside the shower stalls. They ensured me that would be addressed in the coming weeks. Places were TVs should be are just walls with exposed wires. Simex mentioned this.
Neutral:
The no key or chip system for your safe and locker. There are keypads on each of those doors that guard your valuables. You punch in a 4 digit code and lock your door behind you. People can see your code, and this has the potential of somebody stealing your code and opening up your safe. With a key, you know you have it in your possession at all times. You are given a wristband with a hand written number that matches your locker number. They would have been better off by using a chip lock and payment system for drinks and food purchases instead of everything being manual. There could be a potential for discrepancy.
This club certainly gives people an alternative choice. The club is close to the Dusseldorf airport, so I am sure it will attract the tourist crowd. I am just not sure if the market can support it based on the attendance alone. The top girls are not going to leave their clubs to come here. The average person is not going to want to spend more for the frills, especially when you just come for the talent.
FiddyCent.
I don't see anything positive about this club opening. It's probably sucking the life out of other clubs. I don't like the arrival of Hessen prices. The area doesn't need any more clubs. There are too many clubs as it is.
If it keeps the number of girls high, that would work for me. There are too many small clubs at the NRW to move around, I wish it was fewer clubs with bigger number of girls like Hessen.
[QUOTE=Simex;1641734]Magnum on Sunday to Wednesday you will find many decent girls, they all go to other clubs on Thursday to Saturday.
Because Magnum attracts the gangster and drug dealers over weekends who only want to drink and smoke and not go into rooms.[/QUOTE]You may have gotten lucky with some nice girls showing up on your visit before Oceans opeing, but I've been there on those days, and it's pretty dead like others have reported. There are definately more girls there on Friday and Saturday with the thugs. There are tons of men on the weekend and there are enough to keep girls busy regardless of the thug population staying out of the rooms. Even with the high population of men, there are plenty of free girls on weekend nights.
For those that has been to Oceans recently and have attended other clubs in the region. What percentage of girls are not from other clubs? From the ones not from other girls, are there some outstanding ones? Fiddy don't seem to be too thrilled of the line-up even with the massive number. Have you guys run into some stunners? Also, how does the girls compared to Hessen?
[QUOTE=FiddyCent;1641759]If you are looking for slim, forget it. Maybe 10% of the girls would fall into that category, but that 10% was nice.[/QUOTE]So if there were even 100 girls you saw 10 nice ones. That's not too bad I guess. Not many clubs I can walk in to and see more than 10 nice girls.
There were over 100 "girls" but many were fully dressed with their boyfriends or part of the press.
The actual working girls on the opening day were less busy in the rooms and busy trying to work out who were punters and who were press and guys with their girlsfriends / partners.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;1641790]So if there were even 100 girls you saw 10 nice ones. That's not too bad I guess. Not many clubs I can walk in to and see more than 10 nice girls.[/QUOTE]
Personally, I find this Club a larger and luxury version of DV.
It does have the Palace feel and touch with the VIP Champagne bars and dedicated table service.
I doubt it will have the sharks factor given there are lots of good quality / service oriented clubs in close proximity.
Free entry for GIRLS until Dec 2014 and €100 per hour will attract lots of girls to this club.
[QUOTE=FiddyCent;1641759]
This club certainly gives people an alternative choice. The club is close to the Dusseldorf airport, so I am sure it will attract the tourist crowd. I am just not sure if the market can support it based on the attendance alone. The top girls are not going to leave their clubs to come here. The average person is not going to want to spend more for the frills, especially when you just come for the talent.
FiddyCent.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Simex;1642120]
It does have the Palace feel and touch with the VIP Champagne bars and dedicated table service.
[/QUOTE]A bottle of Bollinger with some lovely ladies does not sound so bad, does it?
May I ask, what is the pricing at Oceans?
- For the entry.
- The room for 30 minutes.
- Room extension to 1 hour.
- For food & drinks?
[QUOTE=Dutch44;1642225]May I ask, what is the pricing at Oceans?
- For the entry.
- The room for 30 minutes.
- Room extension to 1 hour.
- For food & drinks?[/QUOTE]Entry is 55 euro so cheaper than Livibg Room and Golden Time by 5 euro.
The first half hour room is 50 euro.
Extension of the room for a further half hour is 50 euro extra.
Soft drinks are included in entry.
Alcoholic drinks are extra cost.
food dishes are extra and are between 10 to 30 euro depending on the item.
I don't see the extra payment for food working out for them. Just ask Mauro at Oase...
[QUOTE=CitizenKane;1642261]I don't see the extra payment for food working out for them. Just ask Mauro at Oase...[/QUOTE]I got a feeling this place may turn out into another Magnum. The thing is Magnum has a better hour rate and the food is top notch(including a decent buffet) that has 20 E of the entry included although Oceans is only 55 entry for now. Curious how much is a decent dish is there. Also, once the publicity dies down, if there will be a decent daytime line-up or night during the week. What would stop the Magnum thugs from making this place their spot also. I'm curious why Magnum is the thug hotspot. Close to Duss is my guess.
Read a post that they want to keep a more diverse line-up with more Germans? Wonder if this is true.
It seems to me another club to lessen number of girls at other clubs. Has the features of a tourist club, and some of the best clubs I've been to at NRW has been out of reach for the typical tourists.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;1641790]So if there were even 100 girls you saw 10 nice ones. That's not too bad I guess. Not many clubs I can walk in to and see more than 10 nice girls.[/QUOTE]Hello Banana Boi.
I guess you can say that. I was not disappointed with Oceans. There is something for everybody, but the club just has to work out a few kinks to make it a "must go" destination. I would like to hear how the club fares a year from now.
FiddyCent.
[QUOTE=CitizenKane;1642261]I don't see the extra payment for food working out for them. Just ask Mauro at Oase...[/QUOTE]Hello Citizen Kane. This is what I spent for entry into both clubs recently.
Oceans: Entry 55 Euros + Salad 15 Euros = 70 Euros.
Oase: Entry with buffet = 70 Euros.
To me, if you are not going there just for food and you take it out of the equation, a visit to Oceans is worth it. If you do, well you will get slightly more at Oase. However, you do lose the luxury of the new club feel of Oceans. If you are in the area, it is my opinion that the club is worth a visit.
FiddyCent.
I can see Oceans being a top top club for the punters who looks for quality over price and likes the luxury feel to a club, especially the rooms.
It's not central Duss but a €15 taxi ride will attract the tourists. Hope it doesn't get too flooded with tourists coupled with "loose" management.
Otherwise you'll find another FKK Palace with lots of sharks.
Hope it goes well for Oceans. But I still have my favourites at Acap, GT and Magnum.
[QUOTE=FiddyCent;1642876]Hello Banana Boi.
I guess you can say that. I was not disappointed with Oceans. There is something for everybody, but the club just has to work out a few kinks to make it a "must go" destination. I would like to hear how the club fares a year from now.
FiddyCent.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Simex;1643285]I can see Oceans being a top top club for the punters who looks for quality over price and likes the luxury feel to a club, especially the rooms.
It's not central Duss but a 15 taxi ride will attract the tourists. Hope it doesn't get too flooded with tourists coupled with "loose" management.
Otherwise you'll find another FKK Palace with lots of sharks.
Hope it goes well for Oceans. But I still have my favourites at Acap, GT and Magnum.[/QUOTE]Hello Simex.
The club owner runs another club. Do you know which one that is? If they are serious about going after the tourist's Euros, then they must manage the club well. This trip was my first foray into NRW. I will need to visit the other clubs from that area in order to make a valid comparison. Unfortunately, I had to only a short time in the NRW area and did not get a chance to vist Acapulco, GT, or Magnum. I will take your word for it. If you had to pick a close comparison, which would you choose?
FiddyCent.
Let us give the club a chance, no club is perfect from day 1.
I'm sure Ocean would be good like Artemis in Berlin. The location is easy and convenient, the price is higher, the HW is new.
The girls must find their way to the club first, it's the chicken and egg situation, more nice girls more customers, vice versa.
[QUOTE=Varenne;1641160]At least on opening evening, elegant visitors can stay in civies (robe and towels are available on request). Let's hope that at least the girls will honour the FKK designation.[/QUOTE]- You can still stay in civies after 22:00 if you wish, but then you must pay an 100€ entry fee instead of the normal 55€ (oh, but if you change your mind you can still get a robe for free!)
- Taxi drivers disappointed by the current lack of hordes of customers begging for a drive, can still console themselves with a specially dedicated offer: entry price is reduced to 40€ on Sundays and Mondays when they exhibit their taxi driver license. The same offer applies to pensioners (they must prove their pensioner status).
- Disabled only pay 40€, and are allowed to undress in the toilet or shower area. Their helpers must pay the full 55€ price. It would be interesting to know which part of the club are suitable for wheelchairs, and which are not.
- Couples only pay 55€ (the website specifies that the payment is asked to the male part). The woman must wear a robe which makes her identifiable as a guest.
- At this moment in time, single women are granted free entry.
[QUOTE=FiddyCent;1643318]Hello Simex.
The club owner runs another club. Do you know which one that is? .[/QUOTE][URL]http://www.rethel-online.de/en-us/[/URL]
I'm sorry but I really hope that Oceans will be a trainwreck and that all the prices around (especially in LR) revert back to normal.
Bert is not the owner of Oceans, he was just their marketing gimmick. Given how the club was plugged in Freude Herne and how Freude girls moved to Oceans in the beginning, it is pretty likely the owner of Oceans is the former owner of the old Freude clubs. Especially now that Herne has become Salome again and tht "old Freude" is back but (seemingly) under new management.
[QUOTE=Varenne;1643583]It would be interesting to know which part of the club are suitable for wheelchairs, and which are not.[/QUOTE][B]All[/B] areas are at ground level: reception, locker room, bar, restaurant, wellness area, showers, toilets, garden and a part of rooms. There are [B]no[/B] steps on the ground floor. On the first and second floor there are more rooms.
[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;1643594][URL]http://www.rethel-online.de/en-us/[/URL][/QUOTE]That's wrong. These clubs [B]belonged[/B] to Bert Wollersheim who ist [B]not[/B] the owner of Oceans. That are Turkish people who controlled (or control?) before Freude 39 in Bochum and Salome in Herne. Bert is only the figurehead of Oceans.
[QUOTE=FreeDude;1643635]Bert is not the owner of Oceans, he was just their marketing gimmick. Given how the club was plugged in Freude Herne and how Freude girls moved to Oceans in the beginning, it is pretty likely the owner of Oceans is the former owner of the old Freude clubs. Especially now that Herne has become Salome again and that "old Freude" is back but (seemingly) under new management.[/QUOTE]Do you mean like Freude 39? If so, then I hope that the "old" allegations of racial discrimination that hung over that place do not place a shadow over FKK Oceans too! I never went to Freude 39 as it just did not get good reviews from most and seemed to be even a bit dirty, let alone the charges of a racist door policy. Let's hope that FKK Oceans will be a club welcoming to all clientele in good standing within the mongering community.
[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;1643594][URL]http://www.rethel-online.de/en-us/[/URL][/QUOTE]The brothels on the Rethelstraße are closed, the operators on trial for stealing money from credit cards of customer knocked out with drugs in their drinks. Anyway, they were no more related to Wollersheim.
Source: [URL]http://www.rp-online.de/nrw/staedte/duesseldorf/bordelle-an-der-rethelstrasse-sind-dicht-aid-1.4588785[/URL].
[URL]http://youtu.be/syioKr-mT8o[/URL]
No whirlpool there?? Doesn't show one in the video or website [URL]http://www.fkk-oceans.de/[/URL].
The owner looks like a plastic version of Rod Stewart.
[QUOTE=Wanking;1643685]
The owner looks like a plastic version of Rod Stewart.[/QUOTE]There's a healthy dose of Liberace in there as well...
[QUOTE=FreeDude;1643635]Bert is not the owner of Oceans, he was just their marketing gimmick. Given how the club was plugged in Freude Herne and how Freude girls moved to Oceans in the beginning, it is pretty likely the owner of Oceans is the former owner of the old Freude clubs. Especially now that Herne has become Salome again and tht "old Freude" is back but (seemingly) under new management.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Willi69;1643641]That's wrong. These clubs [B]belonged[/B] to Bert Wollersheim who ist [B]not[/B] the owner of Oceans. That are Turkish people who controlled (or control?) before Freude 39 in Bochum and Salome in Herne. Bert is only the figurehead of Oceans.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Varenne;1643663]The brothels on the Rethelstrae are closed, the operators on trial for stealing money from credit cards of customer knocked out with drugs in their drinks. Anyway, they were no more related to Wollersheim.
Source: [URL]http://www.rp-online.de/nrw/staedte/duesseldorf/bordelle-an-der-rethelstrasse-sind-dicht-aid-1.4588785[/URL].[/QUOTE]I'm confused now. So Bert is not the owner, but he used to own the clubs that closed down and got busted for doping drinks, but Bert was not involved in it? And F39 was formerly owned by Turkish group who currently own Oceans? Or the other way around?
Is Magnum owned by Turkish too? I thought it got merged with Harem which was Turkish owned and German owned club. So it has two ownerships. So the girls coming are coming from ACA, Magnum, and old F39? So the girls coming to Oceans are sourced to Turkish managers?
[QUOTE=TheCane;1643643]Let's hope that FKK Oceans will be a club welcoming to all clientele in good standing within the mongering community.[/QUOTE]At least at this moment, all people are welcome if they can pay the entry fee.
[QUOTE=Wanking;1643685]No whirlpool there?[/QUOTE]No whirlpool, no swimming pool. They had built a swimming pool in the garden, without permission, and had to fill it.
They have a Finnish sauna, a steam sauna, a Haman and a salt cave.
[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1643728]So Bert is not the owner, but he used to own the clubs that closed down and got busted for doping drinks.[/QUOTE]Yes, so it is.
[QUOTE]but Bert was not involved in it?[/QUOTE]None of the allegations has been proven in court. Most of the defendants are free again.
[QUOTE]And F39 was formerly owned by Turkish group who currently own Oceans?[/QUOTE]That's really sophisticated. Originally Freude 39 and Salome belonged to a person called "Der Blinde" ("the blind man" he had to leave the clubs under threat of violence. On ownership was decided later in court.
[quote]Is Magnum owned by Turkish too? I thought it got merged with Harem which was Turkish owned and German owned club.[/quote]Harem in Dormagen is closed since several months. It shall be a Noble-Magnum II. Magnum belongs to German people. The same who control Planet Happy Garden.
[QUOTE=Wanking;1643685]The owner looks like a plastic version of Rod Stewart.[/QUOTE]But his wife is looking really natural:
[IMG]http://bilder.bild.de/fotos-skaliert/prosiebenpromiboxen_41116775_mbqf-1411926860-37935340/3,w=559,c=0.bild.jpg%3C/div%3E[/IMG]
[QUOTE=Willi69;1643868]But his wife is looking really natural:
[IMG]http://bilder.bild.de/fotos-skaliert/prosiebenpromiboxen_41116775_mbqf-1411926860-37935340/3,w=559,c=0.bild.jpg%3C/div%3E[/IMG][/QUOTE]She is his right hand! LOL a silicone blond to run the business for Berti, Cute! LOL.
How about the helicopter and the yacht, anyone has seen them?
Yacht and Helicopter have been shipped to unknown destination. They were not aloud by the goverment. No permit.
I do hope FKK Oceans will update the (25) photos of the ladies on there site soon. Its a big plus if clubs do this.
The other photos of the club on their site look great.
[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;1643594][URL]http://www.rethel-online.de/en-us/[/URL]
I'm sorry but I really hope that Oceans will be a trainwreck and that all the prices around (especially in LR) revert back to normal.[/QUOTE]I agree with you 100 percent, additionally I think that this will only fragment the girls even more. Some clubs will see some of their good looking girls leave for Oceans, yet somehow I seriously doubt that they can fill the whole place with "200" beautiful women.
In the end of the day most of us are only willing to pay a relatively high entry price for basically 2 things;.
1) a club with a large variety of good looking women, and.
2) a decent venue serving decent food where you can comfortably spend en entire afternoon or evening.
The last thing most of us want to do is for example to pay 70 E at GT, find out there are only a handful of nice women there, then drive to Duesseldorf and pay 55 E (plus 5 E for a beer, plus pay for food or a salad, plus this, plus that...) only to discover that there are only a handful of beautiful girls there as well.
So far I'm not that impressed with the website. It appears to be hastily done, showing pictures of what looks like a construction site with cables running around everywhere and power tools laying around. And then there's this confusing pricing 'strategy. ' Let's see, we have a "temporary" 55 E entry fee, 100 E if you want to stay dressed but only after 8 pm, 40 E if you are a taxi driver but only on SUN and MON, 40 E if retired or handicapped, extra for food etcetera. WTF?! It's already bad enough with girls trying to upsell!
Having a place with 200 beautiful women, as the video and some pictures on their website suggests, would be the ONLY reason people would be willing to pay 55E plus food, plus beer, plus this and plus that. If they can't deliver that, then I doubt that they can break even on the enormous investment because it will be a club just like any other club. However, if the place turns out just like the video with spectacular ladies and a nice atmosphere, then I guess I would be willing to put up with the pricing bullshit.
The investment for a place like this must be huge, and I seriously doubt that this thing will take off in the present economic climate. It's a deflationary "buyer's market" and almost all clubs I've visited in the last 6 months have been MUCH quieter than usual, something which is confirmed by many girls and people on this forum. Very good looking girls who provide great service can maybe get away with charging a little bit extra (they probably get that anyway in the form of a tip if their customer is a gentleman), but I seriously doubt if the same can apply across the board for an entire club for all women, or even the entire industry.
Unfortunately, in it's death spasms and race to the bottom, the place will probably drag down a lot of other clubs with it. Let's wait and see what happens and how Oceans develops...
P.S. Why is this thread located all the way at the bottom under "user blog," and not in the list with all the other FKK clubs?
[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;1643594][URL]http://www.rethel-online.de/en-us/[/URL]
... that all the prices around (especially in LR) revert back to normal.[/QUOTE]What are the odd's of this happening? Slim to none is my guess, once you give them more money they won't want to give any of that back.
The place was completely dead. Just about every girl had a bored, disappointed look on their face. I spoke with at least 10-15 girls--not because I was interested in sessioning, but more because of the whole "which club do I know you from" game. I recognized about five of the girls from other clubs. A couple of others claimed to have recognized me. Not a single girl that I spoke to was new to the business or even new to the German FKK scene. PHG, Villa Vertigo, DV, Magnum, GT, Acapulco were the responses that I got. Quite a few were veterans of 2-3 clubs prior to coming to Oceans. Every girl I spoke to was Romanian--although two girls tried to lie about it. I am sure some of you guys who do epic seven day trips and multiple clubs a day would easily recognize at least 80% of the girls.
Most seemed to only have been there between 3-5 days. One girl said she had been there since the grand opening, and she claimed that the numbers had been steadily decreasing since then. A few reported that Saturday night was just as quiet. Most of the girls admitted they were ready to go back to their home club. This despite the club owners waiving the entry fee and overnight sleeping fee.
As Hessen Bub predicted, there really isn't a market for another club in NRW, especially with attendance being down at every single club in Germany. I heard rumors that they spent 10 million EUR on Oceans, but I wouldn't be surprised if the price tag was much higher. Either way it is a huge upfront investment, so I doubt they will recover that any time soon or if ever. It probably will cost a fortune just to keep the place heated over the winter. This place looks more like a VIP bottle service super club, where you would expect to see celebrities. Most of you will probably insist on going to see the train wreck yourself just as I did, LOL. If Oceans wants to have a fighting to chance to survive, the club owners will have to start getting creative. Whether it be reducing entry, introducing happy hour pricing, inclusive food, bribing taxing drivers, offering incentives to recruit and retain top girls, etc. Oceans just has too much competition and not enough customers.
One easy thing they could probably fix is the lighting. As FiddyCent reported, you can't really see the girls. You'd have to be about a couch lengths away to see the girl. This makes it difficult to scan the floor if you are waiting / hunting for a particular girl. I can't count how many times I got excited because I thought a new girl arrived, only to realize that it was the same girl who I'd just seen walk by at least ten times. In the end I sessioned with only one girl. 175 cm, dark black / brown hair, model-thin waif body, fake be-cups. I had turned her down at GT before a few months ago. She told me her new alias and the one she used at GT, but I can't remember either. Think Carolina or Christina was one of them.
I know this is going to sound like a stupid question but I've RTFF and I can't see an answer; I know it's called FKK Oceans but is it actually an FKK club? No one seems to have mentioned it but FKK is pretty rare in NRW so if it was I would have thought someone would have commented.
I'm bracing myself for 'stupid boy, Pike' comments...
[QUOTE=CitizenKane;1645827]I know this is going to sound like a stupid question but I've RTFF and I can't see an answer; I know it's called FKK Oceans but is it actually an FKK club? No one seems to have mentioned it but FKK is pretty rare in NRW so if it was I would have thought someone would have commented.
I'm bracing myself for 'stupid boy, Pike' comments...[/QUOTE]Girls wear clothes like rest of NRW.
[QUOTE=McAdonis;1645829]Girls wear clothes like rest of NRW.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the response McAdonis.
I believe Babylon in Elsdorf is FKK (but it's called a sauna club) and Haus Panthera is Thu-Sat. My thinking was the only thing this club had to stand out from the crowd was that it was FKK. Turns out the only thing that makes it stand out is the fact that you have to pay extra for food. Good luck with that business plan...
[QUOTE=CitizenKane;1645834]Thanks for the response McAdonis.
I believe Babylon in Elsdorf is FKK (but it's called a sauna club) and Haus Panthera is Thu-Sat. My thinking was the only thing this club had to stand out from the crowd was that it was FKK. Turns out the only thing that makes it stand out is the fact that you have to pay extra for food. Good luck with that business plan...[/QUOTE]Those are, just like many in the Ruhrgebiet: Freude (seemingly turning AO after all), Grimberg, Villa Venus, Arabella, Romantica, Verena, Annabela, Luder Lounge. Also Bernds. Heaven 7 is FKK on Monday and Wednesday.
Thanks for the update, McAdonis. Not sounding too promising here. Since you have a bit of idea what my taste is, are there girls here I would like?
[QUOTE=McAdonis;1645823]I am sure some of you guys who do epic seven day trips and multiple clubs a day would easily recognize at least 80% of the girls.[/QUOTE]This is why I'm curious about Oceans. To see who I know there. I enjoy bumping in to girls at different clubs. The one you've never been with always seem friendlier since you're a familiar face and you always get an amazing greeting from the the ones you've been with.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;1645855]Thanks for the update, McAdonis. Not sounding too promising here. Since you have a bit of idea what my taste is, are there girls here I would like?
This is why I'm curious about Oceans. To see who I know there. I enjoy bumping in to girls at different clubs. The one you've never been with always seem friendlier since you're a familiar face and you always get an amazing greeting from the the ones you've been with.[/QUOTE]As a few others have stated, we have to think about the types of girls that a place like Oceans might attract.
If a girl is a top act at a certain club with built-up clientele, can she be confident that those regulars would follow her to her new club? Some understandably just want to test the waters, and see if the grass is really greener on the other side. But for the most part, I don't think girls or their pimps would take the risk if they've previously invested themselves at another club. Depending on how far the new club is from their old club, the girl would have to start from scratch and build up her reputation again. Though I don't know their names, some of the girls at Oceans have been around for years. I suspect they were probably making big money several years ago, now they are just washed-up and chasing money that isn't really there anymore.
But as you said, some of these girls might be happy to bump into you at Oceans. When business is slow, the girls may suddenly be more customer-oriented to the guys with as you put it, "familiar faces". On the other hand, you may also find that girls are more moody because they aren't making any money. Longer term outlook, I suspect the club will have to take drastic measures to attract customers. Maybe they will offer some promotions in the coming months.
[QUOTE=McAdonis;1645880]But as you said, some of these girls might be happy to bump into you at Oceans. When business is slow, the girls may suddenly be more customer-oriented to the guys with as you put it, "familiar faces". On the other hand, you may also find that girls are more moody because they aren't making any money. Longer term outlook, I suspect the club will have to take drastic measures to attract customers. Maybe they will offer some promotions in the coming months.[/QUOTE]Well I'm not sure how I would react, if I slept with a girl at Oceans, I knew from other clubs.
Now the price is 100€/ h and previously I was with her for 75-80€/ h.
For sure I'll not take 3+ hours with her at Oceans. LOL.
[QUOTE=McAdonis;1645823]The place was completely dead. Just about every girl had a bored, disappointed look on their face. I spoke with at least 10-15 girls--not because I was interested in sessioning, but more because of the whole "which club do I know you from" game.
As Hessen Bub predicted, there really isn't a market for another club in NRW, especially with attendance being down at every single club in Germany.[/QUOTE]Off to Dusseldorf for one night only (there's a song there somewhere? Next Wednesday. Have been advised to go to either LR or ACA. I don't like small clubs so maybe LR not great (Bananabol suggested ACA better) though LR is much closer. Have been on the Oceans website and I like the look of the club but the report from McAdonis turned me cold. I don't want to be in Oceans for a short time thinking I wish I'd respected his report more and then getting expensive cabs to LR or ACA. Just wondered if anyone else who has been to Oceans thinks it might just be picking up? If not, I'll stick with the advice generously given already.
[QUOTE=PayForIt;1646169] Have been advised to go to either LR or ACA. [/QUOTE]Haus Panthera can be an option as well. Very close to airport. Good MILF club with decent service.
LR is not so small. To say it better: the building may be small but there are lots of sexy ladies (too bad for the damned price change).
Panthera is a club I like but there are less women than in LR and in average, less good looking. Wednesday is probably not a good day for a first visit in Panthera.
Magnum is large (if you like female sharks) and easy to reach by public transportation.
ACA is large too but it takes a longer time to reach.
Totally agree with the reports by McAdonis. The region completely saturated and Germany going into recession this month.
Who's going to pay 55 with no drinks and food. All the girls I saw were tired looking types from the main 5/6 clubs in NRW.
Butler Service oriented club attracting the dumb-down fly-by tourists, who'll be happy with a 20 minutes covered BJ for €100.
I am soooooo pissed OCEANS fucked up the great pricing model of the NRW clubs (esp GT).
You'll see me more at Samya & ACA nowadays. I hope these clubs sit tight and not change their pricing model.
[QUOTE=McAdonis;1645823]The place was completely dead. Just about every girl had a bored, disappointed look on their face. I spoke with at least 10-15 girls--not because I was interested in sessioning, but more because of the whole "which club do I know you from" game. I recognized about five of the girls from other clubs. A couple of others claimed to have recognized me. Not a single girl that I spoke to was new to the business or even new to the German FKK scene. PHG, Villa Vertigo, DV, Magnum, GT, Acapulco were the responses that I got. Quite a few were veterans of 2-3 clubs prior to coming to Oceans. Every girl I spoke to was Romanian--although two girls tried to lie about it. I am sure some of you guys who do epic seven day trips and multiple clubs a day would easily recognize at least 80% of the girls.
Most seemed to only have been there between 3-5 days. One girl said she had been there since the grand opening, and she claimed that the numbers had been steadily decreasing since then. A few reported that Saturday night was just as quiet. Most of the girls admitted they were ready to go back to their home club. This despite the club owners waiving the entry fee and overnight sleeping fee.
As Hessen Bub predicted, there really isn't a market for another club in NRW, especially with attendance being down at every single club in Germany. I heard rumors that they spent 10 million EUR on Oceans, but I wouldn't be surprised if the price tag was much higher. Either way it is a huge upfront investment, so I doubt they will recover that any time soon or if ever. It probably will cost a fortune just to keep the place heated over the winter. This place looks more like a VIP bottle service super club, where you would expect to see celebrities. Most of you will probably insist on going to see the train wreck yourself just as I did, LOL. If Oceans wants to have a fighting to chance to survive, the club owners will have to start getting creative. Whether it be reducing entry, introducing happy hour pricing, inclusive food, bribing taxing drivers, offering incentives to recruit and retain top girls, etc. Oceans just has too much competition and not enough customers.
One easy thing they could probably fix is the lighting. As FiddyCent reported, you can't really see the girls. You'd have to be about a couch lengths away to see the girl. This makes it difficult to scan the floor if you are waiting / hunting for a particular girl. I can't count how many times I got excited because I thought a new girl arrived, only to realize that it was the same girl who I'd just seen walk by at least ten times. In the end I sessioned with only one girl. 175 cm, dark black / brown hair, model-thin waif body, fake be-cups. I had turned her down at GT before a few months ago. She told me her new alias and the one she used at GT, but I can't remember either. Think Carolina or Christina was one of them.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;1646181]LR is not so small. To say it better: the building may be small but there are lots of sexy ladies (too bad for the damned price change).
Panthera is a club I like but there are less women than in LR and in average, less good looking. Wednesday is probably not a good day for a first visit in Panthera.
Magnum is large (if you like female sharks) and easy to reach by public transportation.
ACA is large too but it takes a longer time to reach.[/QUOTE]Just wanted to say a big thanks to all the guys who have offered advice. Particularly as I'm only there for one bloody night! Particularly Finnish Fucker for his detailed PM advice. From all the comments I'll go to LR. Like the sound of the large line up of sexy girls. Shame about the price hike but I only have experience of Artemis 80/60/60/60 and the FR clubs at entry /50/50/50 so missing out on the 25 euro 30 minutes sessions is a shame but not something I've ever been lucky enough to sample. Good job. I'm a sucker for a 2 hour GFE session anyway. I think if I knew it was only 25 for 30 minutes I'd have a girl in there for half the day!
I like the look of ACA from the website but it's too far given I don't get to Dusseldorf until about 6. 30 pm. Noted on Panthera but MILFs not for me. Really disappointed to read the negatives about Oceans as the club looks fantastic on the website to me. But this forum is there for a reason. To inform and educate so that mistakes don't get made and I'm not going to bother people for advice and then ignore it. So LR it is and hope that Oceans maybe gets its act together for my next trip. Just in case anyone from Oceans is reading this forum. Note the comments - 55 in then no food is ridiculous. Comments about 20 min CBJ for €100 make me go cold and the old line up from other clubs and experienced guys saying it is dead are not going to get any of the €10 million investment back. A good idea would be to start by actually offering some real incentives for the best looking WG's to come to the club. This happens all the time in Spain where the club initially go to rival clubs and PAY the stunners to leave with offers of free accommodation and minimum earnings for 1 month. Then make introductory entrance offers e. G. €30 before 8 pm and €40 after. Food free. Free soft drinks and beers. No need for the silly drinks tokens at Oase and Artemis. Better to pay on exit like at Sharks and Manhattan. Finally, introduce a novel element. Themed rooms at Sharks including domination room and Egyptian room. Bar football table and outside 5 a side at Oase. Even better. Piano and show at Scandalo (Malaga). If the prices, facilities and line up are right the punters will come. Currently, from reports on here. Seems to me that the prices and line up are all wrong. For the benefit of everyone in NWR I hope Oceans pays attention and makes some urgent changes. Had the report on here been positive. I'd have been going there next week. Looks like a terrific club but I'll be heading to LR given what I've learned. Thanks again guys. Will report back.
[QUOTE=PayForIt;1646169]Off to Dusseldorf for one night only (there's a song there somewhere? Next Wednesday. Have been advised to go to either LR or ACA. I don't like small clubs so maybe LR not great (Bananabol suggested ACA better) though LR is much closer. Have been on the Oceans website and I like the look of the club but the report from McAdonis turned me cold. I don't want to be in Oceans for a short time thinking I wish I'd respected his report more and then getting expensive cabs to LR or ACA. Just wondered if anyone else who has been to Oceans thinks it might just be picking up? If not, I'll stick with the advice generously given already.[/QUOTE]For sure any club on a Wednesday would be slower than in the weekends.
I'm going to Oceans on Saturday, that would probably be the best day for this club.
LR is small but still nice, why do you need a big club? If you are in the room with girls most of the time it makes no different LOL.
DV is bigger than LR you could check it out.
[QUOTE=PayForIt;1646211]Comments about 20 min CBJ for 100 make me go cold...[/QUOTE]I missed that, where exactly did you read that?
[QUOTE=PayForIt;1646211]A good idea would be to start by actually offering some real incentives for the best looking WG's to come to the club. This happens all the time in Spain where the club initially go to rival clubs and PAY the stunners to leave with offers of free accommodation and minimum earnings for 1 month. Then make introductory entrance offers e. G. 30 before 8 pm and 40 after. Food free. Free soft drinks and beers. No need for the silly drinks tokens at Oase and Artemis. Better to pay on exit like at Sharks and Manhattan. Finally, introduce a novel element. Themed rooms at Sharks including domination room and Egyptian room. Bar football table and outside 5 a side at Oase. Even better. Piano and show at Scandalo (Malaga). If the prices, facilities and line up are right the punters will come. Currently, from reports on here. Seems to me that the prices and line up are all wrong. For the benefit of everyone in NWR I hope Oceans pays attention and makes some urgent changes. Had the report on here been positive. I'd have been going there next week. Looks like a terrific club but I'll be heading to LR given what I've learned. Thanks again guys. Will report back.[/QUOTE]And what will that achieve? Drive all other places out of business, convince the best looking girls to relocate to Oceans so that they can then increase the prices? No thanks. Be careful what you wish for, it might happen.
Let's face it: there's an oversupply of clubs and an undersupply of good looking girls. This will not change by spending 10 million on a new club and then hoping that all the good looking girls from all other NRW / he clubs will magically relocate to Dusseldorf. This is not Dubai where they have very deep pockets to subsidize losses almost indefinitely and use the motto "build it, and they will come / cum. ".
[QUOTE=McAdonis;1645823]I heard rumors that they spent 10 million EUR on Oceans,[/QUOTE]Not a rumour, it's mentioned at 00:00:45 in the YT video on their website: "....geöffnet ist das für rund 10 Millionen Euro erbauten Luftschloss... "
[QUOTE=HornyHarry;1646379]I missed that, where exactly did you read that?
And what will that achieve? Drive all other places out of business, convince the best looking girls to relocate to Oceans so that they can then increase the prices? No thanks. Be careful what you wish for, it might happen.
Let's face it: there's an oversupply of clubs and an undersupply of good looking girls. This will not change by spending 10 million on a new club and then hoping that all the good looking girls from all other NRW / he clubs will magically relocate to thesseldorf. This is not Dubai where they have very deep pockets to subsidize losses almost indefinitely and use the motto "build it, and they will come / cum. ".
Not a rumour, it's mentioned at 00:00:45 in the YT video on their website: "....geffnet ist das fr rund 10 Millionen Euro erbauten Luftschloss... "[/QUOTE]A fairly medium size and nice club called Babylon in Hamburg, has run on lack of girls and customer for some years, I wonder how they can survive. Maybe the have other businesses involved in the shadow? My point is the invested money can come from various unofficial sources and it's difficult to control the earning when we all are pay in cash and we never get a receipt.
€100 for 20 minutes CBJ was a joke. We hope it doesn't turn out to be a Palace from Frankfurt.
I would still recommend Oceans given it's a spanking big club with lush rooms.
Prices are 50 per half hour.
Personally I would give miss LR a miss and do ACA if logistics permit.
[QUOTE=Simex;1646602]Personally I would give miss LR a miss and do ACA if logistics permit.[/QUOTE]LR is not bad for a short visit, I was at LR few weeks ago on a slow Monday, still many nice girls and very few men, the GFE hitrate for me was 100% with 3 sessions.
I was in Zurich the day before, November 15 and visited Globe for the first time. I have to say that I am not ready to jump on the rave review bandwagon yet. Who knows, it may change with my upcoming Globe visits next week. I will post the reviews in Zurich forum thread.
I arrived in Dusseldorf on the evening of 16th November and decided to go to the newest club FKK Oceans as it was very close to the hotel I am staying. I went to the club after 7 pm, paid 55 e entrance. I was given a card worth 100 e that I could spend on food & drinks. One has to pay the actual amount spent before leaving the club. The catch is that if you loose the card then you owe the club 100 e irrespective of whether you spend a penny or not.
FKK Oceans is a nice club with huge main area like FKK Sharks. Clean smoke free environment. Lots of couches to relax. Food was decent. Bar staf was great.
Like other members mentioned this club looked very dull & depressed. Lineup was not great and there were very few men. I had session with only one girl, Ruksana (club name is Kristina or something like that). She is a tall, beautiful, athletic, 23 year old Romanian with big be cups. She is great kisser. I spent 1 HR with her and left the club around 11 pm.
Day-2 Acapulco.
[QUOTE=Simex;1646602]Personally I would give miss LR a miss and do ACA if logistics permit.[/QUOTE]I visited ACA on Monday and was impressed with the lineup and number of girls.
I was in LR on Tuesday. It was a slow day, but there were lot of girls and some are very good looking. There were few girls I saw in Oceans.
I found a little gem in 20 year old Romanian girl Gigi. Other two sessions I had were good too.
[QUOTE=Lalabo;1646831]I arrived in Dusseldorf on the evening of 16th November and decided to go to the newest club FKK Oceans as it was very close to the hotel I am staying. I went to the club after 7 pm, paid 55 e entrance. I was given a card worth 100 e that I could spend on food & drinks. One has to pay the actual amount spent before leaving the club. The catch is that if you loose the card then you owe the club 100 e irrespective of whether you spend a penny or not.[/QUOTE]Can you explain the 100€ food / drink card? You have to spend 100€ on food and drink or pay the difference, I don't quite understand?
Do you only get this card if you enter after 7 PM?
Thanks.
I agree, LR is also good on a slow weekday.
[QUOTE=NilleCopenhagen;1646879]Can you explain the 100 food / drink card? You have to spend 100 on food and drink or pay the difference, I don't quite understand?[/QUOTE]The card looks like one of those Restaurant reward cards that gets you free item after you buy 10 or 12 items. This specific card has markings of various currency denominations like 2. 5 e, 5 e, 10 e etc totaling 100 e. I have an amateur approximate rendering of the card below.
- 2. 5 e - 2. 5 e - 2. 5 e - 2. 5 e -.
- 5. 0 e - 5. 0 e - 5. 0 e - 5. 0 e -.
- 10.0 e - 10.0 e - 10.0 e -.
- 10.0 e - 15.0 e - 15.0 e -.
When you order a drink worth 5 e, the bartender would mark two 2. 5 e slots or one 5 e slot. When you order food worth 25 e, waiter / waitress would mark one 15 e slot and 10 e slot and so on. I hope you get the picture. When you leave the club (provided you spent less than or equal to 100 e in the club) you have to settle the account by paying the amount you actually spent. Front desk calculated the amount based on the markings on the card you were given. If you happen to loose or lie about loosing, which is one an the same, you owe the club 100 e. You owe the club 100 e even you don't buy any thing and you happen to loose the card.
You can only buy food and drinks for a max of 100 e (because card does not have slots for more than 100 e) with one card. When you run out of 100 e you may have to pay off 100 e debt you have accrued and get a new card and continue the process.
So, my point is, it is very expensive piece of paper to loose. In the day & age, this club should have had a better process than what they currently have.
I wish I took a picture of the card so that it is easier to attach it and explain.
I hope this helps.
P.S.: Don't get any ideas. Each card is numbered.
[QUOTE=NilleCopenhagen;1646879]Do you only get this card if you enter after 7 PM?[/QUOTE]Everyone gets it irrespective of what time they visit.
This system is very similar to what Magnum uses. So you see many guys that keep it in their locker and only take it out when they want to order something. In Magnum the first 20 E for food is included, but for the rest it works the same way.
[QUOTE=FreeDude;1647378]This system is very similar to what Magnum uses. So you see many guys that keep it in their locker and only take it out when they want to order something. In Magnum the first 20 E for food is included, but for the rest it works the same way.[/QUOTE]I have been to Magnum once but I don't remember the system exactly the same way as Oceans. It is possible my memory is bit rusty. I don't remember getting a piece of paper to track all of my spending in Magnum. Most of my spending was tracked electronically. At least, you get to pay what you spent with electronic system.
In August in Magnum it was the same system. I had a card with numbers written and the waitress punched a hole in the number 15 if I ordered a 15 euro meal; etc.
Same thing for the drinks.
Thanks Lalabo for explaining the value card, I will see it myself today when I'm visiting Oceans.
[QUOTE=NilleCopenhagen;1646534]A fairly medium size and nice club called Babylon in Hamburg, has run on lack of girls and customer for some years, I wonder how they can survive. Maybe the have other businesses involved in the shadow? My point is the invested money can come from various unofficial sources and it's difficult to control the earning when we all are pay in cash and we never get a receipt.[/QUOTE]I think you are implying like a few of the authorities that these cash driven clubs are maybe money laundering fronts. You can pay a lot of money to set up these clubs in "management fees" and have managers run the place but those managers are never on site. All payments are in cash so you can declare whatever income you want (usually exaggerated) pay the taxed and then hey voila the money that did not actually detive from the club is now in the real world and cleaned.
If you look up the ownership of the clubs you find that the arrangement is a company owns the business and then the company leases or rent premises and hires the staff. Another company is the management company takung a fee for running that asset owning company.
So you get a web of cashflows that turn the cash receipts banked into traced payments to other companies that become more legit as it goes further in the real world economy. Simple.
Normal entry price in Oceans 55€, but beware that if you arrive by taxi they will rip you 85€ off! Better to instruct the driver to drop you at some distance. Better still, Monday to Tuesday, be a gentleman and convince the driver to park his taxi and join you for a day of fun, the entry is on you (you'll only pay 55€ for both anyway with the current offer).
I've read this a few times, also about other clubs: Cab drivers dropping off guests at clubs and the club charging more than the official entry. Never happened to me. Why accept it? There is an official price for the entry, it can't vary by means of transportation. If the clubs pays a commission to the cab driver (most clubs do), this goes against their margin, not your admission to the club.
HB.
They have it on their website: you pay more if you arrive by taxi. Not that I don't agree it is ridiculous.
30 euro extra to arrive by taxi is ridiculous. If the club really reimburses taxi drivers 30 euro for every ride they bring to the club all taxi drivers will bring anyone from the airport or downtown DUSS to this place. In other words this will eventually become a tourist club and the sharks will congregate here.
If you want to go to Oceans and MUST take a taxi give the taxi driver the address to the bike shop located next door to Oceans.
Eisenherz Bikes
Oberhausener Street 15.
40472 Dusseldorf
[QUOTE=Varenne;1647761] Monday to Tuesday..... you'll only pay 55 for both anyway with the current offer[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the tip. Guess I'll be standing near the front door waiting for another single guy to enter.
[QUOTE=Varenne;1647761] Better to instruct the driver to drop you at some distance.[/QUOTE]I have even better idea: instruct the drive to drop you at any other club such us LR, Panthera, Aca, etc.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;1648009]30 euro extra to arrive by taxi is ridiculous. If the club really reimburses taxi drivers 30 euro for every ride they bring to the club all taxi drivers will bring anyone from the airport or downtown DUSS to this place. In other words this will eventually become a tourist club and the sharks will congregate here.
If you want to go to Oceans and MUST take a taxi give the taxi driver the address to the bike shop located next door to Oceans....[/QUOTE]Hahaha, why oh why am I not surprised? So basically, you as a customer, would have to pay your own commission? As HB correctly stated, a commission should come out of THEIR margin, not YOUR pocket!
What a pity because I have to be in Dusseldorf regularly for business and the club itself looks very nice. Unfortunately it's their short term 'let's make a quick Buck' rip off and tourist trap pricing tactics, and very mediocre line up reports that seems to ruin everything and will keep me from paying the place a visit.
Even IF the line up would dramatically improve (something I seriously doubt, but alas), I hate up-sell places with all kinds of complicated vouchers, value cards, hole punch cards etcetera. The last thing I want is having to worry about losing that hole punch card or having to argue with a large bouncer about the bill.
I'll continue to watch the developments surrounding this place from a nice little distance, hehe.
[QUOTE=Jymondor;1648029]I have even better idea: instruct the drive to drop you at any other club such us LR, Panthera, Aca, etc.[/QUOTE]Completely agree!
I hope you are kidding! 85 Entry if a Taxi drops you off. So 30 goes to the taxi driver
If that's the case, the 2000/3000 taxis will be directing Men of all shape and sizes from
Airport Koln; Duss, Duisburg etc to this place. This place will be a complete COCK FEAST
full of tourist.
This reminds me of the dodgy clubs in Barcelona, Charging 60 and giving taxis half
Girls were ripping tourists off at 300 an hour.
[QUOTE=Varenne;1647761]Normal entry price in Oceans 55, but beware that if you arrive by taxi they will rip you 85 off! Better to instruct the driver to drop you at some distance. Better still, Monday to Tuesday, be a gentleman and convince the driver to park his taxi and join you for a day of fun, the entry is on you (you'll only pay 55 for both anyway with the current offer).[/QUOTE]
Here is the quote from their website:
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If arriving by taxi admission Price 85 € is.
The ocean can be accessed after 20:00 clock in elegant solid Apparel.
The entrance fee is then 100,. -. For better identification, you will receive a.
"GUEST" name badge at the front desk. Of course you can.
Take at a later date for free in a bathrobe claim, for use of the spa. ".
Talk about searching for suckers. Are they still in business? This is no way start a "new" business. Am I missing something?
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[QUOTE=Simex;1648113]I hope you are kidding! 85 Entry if a Taxi drops you off. So 30 goes to the taxi driver
If that's the case, the 2000/3000 taxis will be directing Men of all shape and sizes from
Airport Koln; Duss, Duisburg etc to this place. This place will be a complete COCK FEAST
full of tourist.
This reminds me of the dodgy clubs in Barcelona, Charging 60 and giving taxis half
Girls were ripping tourists off at 300 an hour.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Voyajer1;1648375]
Talk about searching for suckers. Are they still in business? This is no way start a "new" business. Am I missing something?[/QUOTE]Shall we run an ISG sweepstake and how long their business model last for? I reckon February at best.
[QUOTE=Lalabo;1647381]I have been to Magnum once but I don't remember the system exactly the same way as Oceans. It is possible my memory is bit rusty. I don't remember getting a piece of paper to track all of my spending in Magnum. Most of my spending was tracked electronically. At least, you get to pay what you spent with electronic system.[/QUOTE]Magnum gives you a €50 punch card. You pay above the allowance.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;1648009]30 euro extra to arrive by taxi is ridiculous. If the club really reimburses taxi drivers 30 euro for every ride they bring to the club all taxi drivers will bring anyone from the airport or downtown DUSS to this place. In other words this will eventually become a tourist club and the sharks will congregate here.
If you want to go to Oceans and MUST take a taxi give the taxi driver the address to the bike shop located next door to Oceans.
Eisenherz Bikes
Oberhausener Street 15.
40472 Dusseldorf
Thanks for the tip. Guess I'll be standing near the front door waiting for another single guy to enter.[/QUOTE]Yeah. Tell the driver I need to pickup my bike at 2330. HAHA.
Stopped by Tuesday evening. Not the best day to guage the LU, but I notice couple not so popular girls from ACA and Samya. I had one bad session. Not many girls and the place has similar feel to Palace, but without the variey of girls. Supposedly, owner is the same as Artemis.
Not worth visiting IMO.
If you really want to check out this club and plan on taking a taxi, why not use the be&be right down the street (as a hotel or a fake address). Its not on google maps yet but their website sure gives the impression that there's a hotel there now.
B & B Hotel thesseldorf-Airport.
Theodorstrae 285.
40472 thesseldorf.
[URL]http://www.hotelbb.de/de/duesseldorf-airport[/URL]
I was at Oceans on Saturday.
Very nice club, nice rooms nice spacey lounge and locker room and great food too, the food is only from a la carte 10-25€ menu is available and great service from the waiters and staff.
Even the doorman was really nice.
At first the club was boring but it pick up at after 20:00.
Number of girls during the day was 60-70 and not so many men.
I've tried everything, the Kino, Sauna, Steambad, Saltgrotte, I tried 5 different rooms with 5 diff. Ladies,
2 was from PHG 1 from Samya, There were many German girls. Some where dancing and partying.
They are quite fun.
I had great time all in all, the club is big so it was not crowded, it felt very empty to start with but picked up later.
The great thing is the club is non-smoking!
A bad thing the code locker system is not great, you just go in and choose a locker, it doesn't have to the no. On your armband.
You can have 2 diff. No. For the safe box and other for the clothes. You can pick your own code, so it can be a mess. Many guests could not figure out the system and set many locker alarm on, the staff had to sorted this mess out.
The food was great so I don't mind paying extra for it, unless they increase the entrance fee after New year.
I'm sure the club will pick up more momentum in the future, the club is still new just 3 weeks old.
I'll return for sure, closed to the airport it took me 9 minutes to get there.
If you have any question regarding Oceans just ask.
I've attached some photos I took from Oceans. You can see the value card as well, if you loose it you pay 100€, I kept it with my money and only used it for food.
I didn't drink alcohol as I was driving.
Cheers,
Nille
I may be wrong, but I got the impression that Oceans is gaining some momentum, when I visited Saturday. It was my first time, and I was aware of the discussions going on in this thread. First of all it is a magnificent space, even if there are some aspects I disapprove of (live football for example is only in the dining area and on a small screen, the whole formal dining thing is probably a mistake). I especially liked the fact that there is a non smoking policy (some of the girls also pointed that out).
Girls are not naked, that was another thing some of them mentioned as a plus. It also gives them a chance to hide the occasional flaw, although some of them would certainly also shine in other clubs and without any attire. As fore male visitors, they kept coming even very late, and it appeared that countless sessions in the rooms were held. The rooms are fine, there are two switches for the light, which can be set to a nice atmosphere, and not just to some level of near darkness.
I indulged somehow and met five girls, of which I want to mention only the two that were truly special: Alice from Romania, tall, slim, nubile type, nonsmoker, great and tender service. And Emilia from Germany, blond, exquisite skin, bright mind. She clearly stands out, also she does not do everything (no CIM, for example), but who would want to argue with her? She is unique.
If word gets out that there is actually some business going on in Oceans, the lineup should definitely improve. But even, or especially, with 200 girls (which is the number the website boasts, on Saturday there were maybe 40) it will depend on luck and intuition to meet someone like Emilia.
[QUOTE=NilleCopenhagen;1650061]2 was from PHG 1 from Samya, There were many German girls.[/QUOTE]Do you know the names from the PHG girls?
[QUOTE]The great thing is the club is non-smoking![/QUOTE]This should be so in [B]all[/B] clubs in the North Rhine-Westphalia area. Since May of 2013 smoking is forbidden in gastronomy. Some clubs (GT, LR) make an exception but this is illegal.
Currently, you can win one out of [B]30[/B] free tickets for "Oceans" at [URL]http://fkk-club.com[/URL], but some tickets are gone already, so be quick. See notes on the home page (only in German available) in the left column, scroll down a bit. Registration is necessary because the code for the free ticket (valid until end of January 2015) is sent to the email address you named at registration ("Registrieren" in the upper right corner, you have to enter each information twice).
As usual, you will receive a control mail after registration in which you have to confirm your registration.
You have to write only [B]one[/B] report ("Kommentar", "Kommentar hinzufuegen") about a club listed in "Clubs". You can write in German or [B]English[/B].
Good luck!
[QUOTE=Willi69;1659608]Currently, you can win one out of [B]30[/B] free tickets for "Oceans" at [URL]http://fkk-club.com[/URL], but some tickets are gone already, so be quick. See notes on the home page (only in German available) in the left column, scroll down a bit. Registration is necessary because the code for the free ticket (valid until end of January 2015) is sent to the email address you named at registration ("Registrieren" in the upper right corner, you have to enter each information twice).
As usual, you will receive a control mail after registration in which you have to confirm your registration.
You have to write only [B]one[/B] report ("Kommentar", "Kommentar hinzufuegen") about a club listed in "Clubs". You can write in German or [B]English[/B].
Good luck![/QUOTE]For what it's worth I followed the above instructions and haven't received any kind of feedback to email whatsoever. I wonder if I'm missing something.
I guess they were just taking their time sending out notifications. Just received the free pass today. Now to consider whether it's worth checking out for free at the end of January before it expires.
Any recent experiences from anyone?
[QUOTE=CitizenKane;1648482]Shall we run an ISG sweepstake and how long their business model last for? I reckon February at best.[/QUOTE]Don't know how it will affect its survivals odds, but the admission fee has been raised to 65€ (it includes unlimited non alcoholic drinks). If you enter before 14:00, you'll pay only 40€ and you're still on time to benefit of the free breakfast.
Extras: arrival by taxi: +30€; wear your normal clothes (only allowed after 20:00): +45€ .
If you arrive by taxi and want to stay in civies, that sums up to 140€, and all is included is non alcoholic drinks. Most flatrate clubs don't even charge as much for a whole day of sexual service!
[QUOTE=Varenne;1663939]Don't know how it will affect its survivals odds, but the admission fee has been raised to 65 (it includes unlimited non alcoholic drinks). If you enter before 14:00, you'll pay only 40 and you're still on time to benefit of the free breakfast.
Extras: arrival by taxi: +30; wear your normal clothes (only allowed after 20:00): +45 .
If you arrive by taxi and want to stay in civies, that sums up to 140, and all is included is non alcoholic drinks. Most flatrate clubs don't even charge as much for a whole day of sexual service![/QUOTE]How much is entry if I arrive on a Pogo stick and wish to wear my Carmen Miranda headdress throughout the day?
This place is going down...
[QUOTE=CitizenKane;1663962]How much is entry if I arrive on a Pogo stick and wish to wear my Carmen Miranda headdress throughout the day?
This place is going down...[/QUOTE]Hahaha! Perhaps one gets in for free if he wears his underpants on his head all night long? LOL!
Amazing that people, lured by a fancy website with pictures of hot chicks and some vague promises, are still interested in this outfit.
Yes the place looks nice, but in the end of the day it's all about price and line-up!
Only positive I found on my last and only visit there was they changed all the keypads to wristband proximity locks like the ones at GT and LR, but you are able to choose any lock you wish.
Hi guys,
I am confused. Only been to Arthemis a couple of times but will be in Dusseldorf for a few days and wanted to check the scene. Great reports on DV, Ocean and more but I read something about FKK vs Sauna as relates to the ladies wondering around topless or not. I have seen something regarding the fact that it might depend on what time of the day you are there.
Bottom line is that I would love to go to a place like Arthemis where they are topless. Can someone please give me a recap of what the deal is in Dusseldorf?
Thanks!!
D
[QUOTE=DavidSmith3;1667196] Great reports on DV, Ocean [/QUOTE]Where are you reading these great reports, especially about Oceans? For best lineups in NRW these 2 clubs wouldn't even be close to top 5 and likely not even top 10.
[QUOTE=DavidSmith3;1667196]Great reports on DV, Ocean and more...[/QUOTE][QUOTE=BananaBoi;1667295]Where are you reading these great reports, especially about Oceans?[/QUOTE]The entire Oceans thread at this forum isn't long, and there isn't much that anyone has reported at all. What has been reported hasn't been stellar. But if you should take it upon yourself to visit Oceans soon, feel free to be among the first to report on it one way or another. I'd be interested to know since I have a free pass to be used by the end of the month which happens to correspond to my next visit to the area.
How many girls now with only 10 rooms?
If 50 girls, it may mean more than 2 hour waiting.
But beautiful club even no jacuzzi and nothing to eat included in entrance price.
[QUOTE=MaximDuck;1667328]The entire Oceans thread at this forum isn't long, and there isn't much that anyone has reported at all. What has been reported hasn't been stellar. But if you should take it upon yourself to visit Oceans soon, feel free to be among the first to report on it one way or another. I'd be interested to know since I have a free pass to be used by the end of the month which happens to correspond to my next visit to the area.[/QUOTE]I guess I should have said "great reporting" as I have read quite a bit about the action in the city here and away. I didn't mean to infer that the reports gave great reviews to the establishments.
I am still waiting for some information regarding my question and if anyone want to give their top 5 clubs that will be great as well.
[QUOTE=MaximDuck;1667328]I'd be interested to know since I have a free pass to be used by the end of the month.[/QUOTE]It has been reported that cards originally valid until 2015-01-31 are not accepted anymore, but that was not firsthand information. Best luck with your scheduled visit.
[QUOTE=Varenne;1667399]It has been reported that cards originally valid until 2015-01-31 are not accepted anymore, but that was not firsthand information. Best luck with your scheduled visit.[/QUOTE]I just looked at my pass, and there is nothing on there which speaks of the potential for Oceans to change its mind. I'd be curious how they would intend to foster good relations with prospective customers when they are lured to the club on a false pretense and don't make good on their vouchers. I would never set foot in the club again, especially given the utter lack of positive reports.
[QUOTE=Varenne;1667399]It has been reported that cards originally valid until 2015-01-31 are not accepted anymore, but that was not firsthand information. Best luck with your scheduled visit.[/QUOTE]That is wrong!
I have clearified this statement in the Dutch Ijsberenforum (in German language):
[URL]http://www.ijsberenforum.com/forum/showthread.php?39586-FKK-Club-Oceans-D%FCsseldorf-Rath-Algemeen&p=409119#post409119[/URL]
There is a new deal:
On [URL]http://fkk-club.com[/URL] (please scroll down, on the left side) you can find a discount coupon. Print & cut it out and give it over the counter. Then you have to pay only 30 Euro instead of normally 65 Euro. This coupon is valid only until January 15 (this Thursday).
As was just reported below by Willi69, I have also received separate confirmation that the passes issued via the link which was previously shared on this site will remain valid through the end of January. So long as one has the printout with redeemer name and confirmation code that one would have received by email, and the code hasn't already been used by someone else with a copy thereof, the free admission will be honored. According to information forwarded to me by the club with links to German-speaking sites, some enterprising individual was selling business card size passes on Ebay, which I suspect was not appreciated by the club. If you can read German, Willi69's links below cover the info well.
Everybody was not happy to get no food included in the entrance fee. Breakfast still was included.
From today it is official said, that one meal is included in the entrance fee. So you can choose one meal out of 5 on a daily changing menu. A good start into the new year.
By the way, Oliver is the sauna master, he is doing every full hour an excellent sauna "Aufguss" followed by fresh fruits or ice or others.
Oceans is on a good way!
Cheers send rempnobbes.
The famous boat show is starting January, 17th and ends 25th. Yesterday I could see that the line up of new girls is starting to slowly grow. One more benefit for Oceans. Also the boat fair weekend is a must to visit Oceans, the party mile. What do we need more. I will be there. PM if interested to meet and chat. Would be much appreciated.
Cheers.
TR FKK Oceans Dusseldorf Germany, mid-November 2014.
Oberhausen Strasse 17,40472 Dusseldorf Germany.
[URL]www.fkk-oceans.de/[/URL]
Google map link: [URL]https://www.google.com/maps/place/Oberhausener+Str.+17,+40472+Dsseldorf,+Germany/@51.27288,6.82045,17z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m2!3m1!1s0x47b8c90191603e6d:0xcfd2d68e93ea832?hl=en[/URL].
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Late Thurs evening, mid-November 2014.
Last club on a multi-club trip:
Sharks ([URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3225-FKK-Sharks-Darmstadt&p=1655502&viewfull=1#post1655502[/URL]).
Artemis ([URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2588-FKK-Artemis-Berlin&p=1649118&viewfull=1#post1649118[/URL]).
Haus Panthera ([URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3379-FKK-Haus-Panthera-in-Ratingen&p=1658552&viewfull=1#post1658552[/URL]).
Oceans.
INTRODUCTION.
Oceans is the big new club on the FKK scene, and while I hadn't really planned to go there, the dismal lineup at Haus Panthera that night wasn't giving me many options. So I had the HP thekefrau call me a taxi and went straight to Oceans.
Would I repeat? Maybe, if the club changed their pricing scheme and had a dependable lineup. But not before.
GETTING THERE.
Cab fare from HP to Oceans wasn't expensive--maybe 11 or 12 EUR? But the club charged me 85 EUR for arriving in a taxi to cover the kickback to the taxi driver, I guess. Most FKK's have such kickback deals, but this was the first time that I as the passenger was charged for it. I grumbled and protested but eventually gave in. I was already there and all. I thought eventually that I should have told the reception girls that I was the one who asked the taxi driver to take me to the club, not that he suggested it and thus warranted getting a kickback, but never bothered.
CLUB.
The club is very nice. Upon entering the front door, there are a flight of stairs going upstairs to fuckrooms, a reception counter at the right that looks right out of a Vegas megaclub or fancy boutique hotel, entrance to the main room directly ahead, and portal to the locker room to the left. Taxi drivers sit at a bench in the entry lobby to wait for their kickbacks.
The locker room was also very nice, with the exception of the cheap-looking hotel-safe style locks on both the money lockers and the half-height clothes lockers. I have since read that these have been swapped out for the RFID types found at GT. During my visit, a helpful beefy security guy showed me how to use it and I just picked one at random--you could pick a different numbered money locker if you desired. The shower room was fancy with a pebble floor like a spa and upscale materials--I rarely saw anyone in there however.
Upon entrance into the main room there is a restaurant area to the right, rather brightly lit in comparison to the large rectangular main room that has a raised sofa tier along the left wall, and multiple sofas around 3 large pillars. The long bar to the right held most of the girls, with a few scattered about on the sofas. This room is fairly large, not as airy and open as Sharks but probably with about the same square footage.
Walk through the bar area to a wellness area with the saunas on the left and the fancy "salt room" to the right. I checked it out and would have liked to have given it a real try, now that I've researched halotherapy (Time magazine article: [URL]http://healthland.time.com/2010/11/05/halotherapy-is-salt-treatment-for-real/[/URL]). Instead I just walked in to take a look--the fountain with water falling over brown twigs was interesting but I'm not sure how theraputic it is. I wonder if you can have a session in there--there are several lounge chairs in the room after all.
Continue walking past the wellness area to the outside patio, which has a beach sand portion and a large concrete area, which I think was originally supposed to hold a swimming pool. It was too cold to hang out there in November, but I would think it would be rather nice in the summer (albeit much better with a real pool there).
I hung out in the main room on one of the back sofas for a while. Some girls came by and sat on my lap to give their pitches; in this regard it seemed more like Mainhattan than Aca in terms of the level of approach. Around midnight that Thursday night there were about 30 girls, not real stunners, but on average better visually than the lineup at HP.
This trio of big Polynesian looking guys were holding forth next to me, they seemed like they were going through girls and talking loudly in French. Like a bunch of Samoan linebackers. I sensed they had been there for a while.
There were a few guys wearing their street clothes in the club--it was kind of weird at first but I remember Oceans has a policy where you can pay more for the privilege of keeping your clothes on. I don't think I would do this--Oceans doesn't seem like a place where much public sex goes on, but there is something a little racy about being able to just start things going right then and there. Like getting blown in front of everyone in the main living room at Bernds, or even Oase for that matter. It just looked weird.
I ended up going upstairs with Elena, a girl who came by twice to my back sofa.
* * *.
ELENA "from Sicily", a pretty Latin-looking girl with high cheekbones and a nice tight body.
Elena sat with me for a while each time she came by, draping herself over my lap whilst trying to get me to go upstairs. Reminded me a bit of Mondial girls or girls from the HK club in Tijuana. Elena said she had previously worked at Magnum, and liked this new club but wasn't sure how business would be just yet.
As sessions go, it was ok. I had a harder time popping because I had just done a girl at HP a little earlier, and I sensed the usual "why does this guy not come?" exasperation, but it was a bit better visually than my options at HP.
* * *.
I didn't bother ordering from the restaurant--I'm so used to free food at FKKs that it almost seems sacreligious to charge 20 EUR for food. First overcharging for entritt then overcharging for food? I've since read that this policy has changed and Oceans is providing some food options with entrance, which makes it more in line with most other clubs.
At one point when hanging out at the bar I got to meet Bert Wolfensheim himself, who cultivates a P. T. Barnum level of PR savvy and media attention in promoting his various brothel businesses. Bert in person is an older guy, rocking that Rod Stewart 'do but seemingly very fit, like a regular runner (or maybe just plenty of partaking of the "help" Bert himself got me a mineralwasser at the bar (individual little bottles of Apollinaris, a nice touch) but needed a waiter to fetch him a bottle opener. I shook his hand and congratulated him on his grand opening and the nice club.
* * *.
SUMMARY.
The club is very, very nice. But overpriced as of my visit--if that situation improves the club should pull in tons of business given its proximity to the airport and size of facilities. In terms of hard product (as in the airline sense), I haven't seen a comparable facility yet. The lineup as of my visit was just ok though. I didn't see any stunners, and the overall makeup of the lineup was not as good as the typical lineup at other big clubs like Sharks, GT, Oase, or Artemis. If the lineup improves considerably, and the pricing model gets better, this club will kick ass.
GIRLS I MET / DID.
* ELENA "from Sicily": ex Magnum. Pretty Latin-looking girl.
AMELIA "from Colombia" via France. Really?
CHANTAL: big eyes, friendly, ex-Oase.
TRINA: tall, older blonde German girl. "I am German!" she exclaimed--knowing that was quite different than the usual I suppose.
LARISSA: big tits sitting at bar.
Was there this Thursday for dinner (they include 1 meal now and I had a coupon reducing the entry to 30). The club looks really nice. And that's about the only positive thing I can say. O, it is clean as well with a lot of supportive staff.
Food is ok and you get a big portion. For Duesseldorf however, it ranks below the restaurants in Panthera and Magnum. Still better than anything in Hesssen (that's not charged extra). The club is just one hall, there are no corners to get more private and I have no idea what they are trying to do. Atmosphere is absolutely impossible to get there (unless there are a few hundred people) and the mandatory shows don't add up to much.
Line up no larger than 40 girls, which mainly consists of Wanderhuren. I think I recognized about 90% of the girls from one club or another and most of them have been in the business for years and have been to about a dozen of clubs. The two girls I actually had done before, were very bad session (one of which was Nereya from Sharks, also Rossa in World, which is her current name there.
Luckily I had been to Luderlounge before with three very good sessions, so I felt little pressure to force something. The one optical highlight (Aria) might have gotten to me, but she was to busy with her dance shows.
The thing with this club is, that it changes all the time. Since the weekend there is the BOOT messe, so it might be totally different today. I know from others that at times the line up has been good. But most of these girls quickly move away because of the lack of income.
[QUOTE=Tommyseville;1670893]Cab fare from HP to Oceans wasn't expensive--maybe 11 or 12 EUR? But the club charged me 85 EUR for arriving in a taxi to cover the kickback to the taxi driver, I guess. Most FKK's have such kickback deals, but this was the first time that I as the passenger was charged for it. I grumbled and protested but eventually gave in. I was already there and all. I thought eventually that I should have told the reception girls that I was the one who asked the taxi driver to take me to the club, not that he suggested it and thus warranted getting a kickback, but never bothered.[/QUOTE]The extra price is even mentioned on their homepage: [URL]http://www.fkk-oceans.de/Eintritt[/URL].
"Aufpreise:
Bei Anreise per Taxi betraegt der Aufpreis + 30 Euro".
[QUOTE=Willi69;1671228]The extra price is even mentioned on their homepage: [URL]http://www.fkk-oceans.de/Eintritt[/URL].
"Aufpreise:
Bei Anreise per Taxi betraegt der Aufpreis + 30 Euro".[/QUOTE]Mentioned on the homepage doesn't necessarily mean it's ok. It turns down on me when this policy runs across. The first time I had was in Magnum, I arrived by taxi and charged for 85; second time was 55. I asked why the price is different, reception smiled and said nothing.
Later I learnt the trick. But I don't believe many Fkks adopt this kind of shit.
[QUOTE=Faceless78;1671234]But I don't believe many Fkks adopt this kind of shit.[/QUOTE]In the "Messeclubs" ("fair clubs") in Cologne (for example "Roemerbad") it's usual since a long time.
It still is a rip off. Commission can be paid to the cab driver, but not on the guest's cost. Oase, Palace do also pay commission. Still the price for the customer remains the same. Don't support that bullshit!
HB.
[QUOTE=HessenBub;1671377]It still is a rip off.[/QUOTE]Of course, I don't like this behaviour, too. I only said it's not totally unusual.
[QUOTE=HessenBub;1671377]It still is a rip off. Commission can be paid to the cab driver, but not on the guest's cost. Oase, Palace do also pay commission. Still the price for the customer remains the same. Don't support that bullshit![/QUOTE]I agree with HB--it's not nice of the club to pass the expense onto the patron. I've bargained cheaper cab rides to Oase knowing that the club would give the driver a kickback upon arrival, so the practice wasn't foreign to me. Just the gall of the club to charge me for wanting to come there.
Some incall places in TJ or Costa Rica would have a similar scheme and you learn to get dropped off a few doors down. I think if word gets out at least informed mongers here will know the score.
Plus, at the time of my visit in November their website was still rather nascent; there was no mention of taxi surcharges (or really, much else) on their website at the time.
And also remember that the "normal" taxi price is itself much more (up to 50%) than you would pay if you have pre-booked the taxi and negotiated a special rate, so as a result of these scams one is paying probably 40 to 50 euros for nothing.
[QUOTE=Optimist;1671640]And also remember that the "normal" taxi price is itself much more (up to 50%) than you would pay if you have pre-booked the taxi and negotiated a special rate, so as a result of these scams one is paying probably 40 to 50 euros for nothing.[/QUOTE]Oceans webpage lists a free shuttle service (TELEFON: 0211-65859866. CALL US FOR FREE HOTEL SHUTTLE-SERVICE! So if you're based in an hotel in the area this could be an option.
Using public transport is another viable option. For example:
From theüsseldorf Hbf:
- take train S6 (direction Essen Hbf) from platform 14.
- after 10' ride, exit at theüsseldorf-Rath train stop, platform 2.
- from here, it's a 1. 2 km walk to Oberhausener Str. 17. For instructions, see for example:
[URL]http://www.openrouteservice.org/index.php?start=6.821373,51.264591&end=6.821105,51.27277&pref=Pedestrian&lang=en&noMotorways=true&noTollways=false[/URL]
From theüsseldorf Airport Terminal:
- take train S11 (runs in direction Bergisch Gladbach).
- after 6' ride, exit at theüsseldorf-Derendorf train stop, platform 1.
- take train S6 (direction Essen Hbf) from platform 2.
- after 5' ride, exit at theüsseldorf-Rath train stop, platform 2.
- from here, it's a 1. 2 km walk to Oberhausener Str. 17. For instructions, see for example:
[URL]http://www.openrouteservice.org/index.php?start=6.821373,51.264591&end=6.821105,51.27277&pref=Pedestrian&lang=en&noMotorways=true&noTollways=false[/URL]
Both trip will cost you 2. 6 EUR, instead of the taxi fare + 30 EUR scam.
It's really beyond me why anyone would put up with the hassle of public transport or risks getting ripped off when arriving by taxi, just so that you can enjoy the 'privilege' of a questionable line up and paying 20 Euros for a meal.
What's up with you guys? Are you really that desperate to get ripped off? What world are we living in when you have to tell the taxi driver to drop you off one block from your destination?! Doesn't that say enough about this place?
This place just looks like one thing to me: a typical tourist trap ripoff place!
For all the talk of entry, food, and taxis, does anyone know what the standard rates are for the girls' time at Oceans?
[QUOTE=Tommyseville;1670893]TR FKK Oceans Dusseldorf Germany, mid-November 2014.[/QUOTE]Visited Oceans, early December last year. I walked from Dus-rath station, it took 18 min to the club. If you can catch the bus from Dus-rath to Oberhausenerstr, it will be much easy.
My impression is similar. The place is nice except the smoking tent outside. There was no light, no seat, only heating.
The girls I met were from ACA, Magnum, Globe, Palace etc. A girl told me there are 40 girls at that time. Most of the girls are average looks to me.
As Varenne points out, public transport is always worth thinking about. [URL]www.bahn.de[/URL] is superb and has an English option.
[QUOTE=MaximDuck;1671808]does anyone know what the standard rates are for the girls' time at Oceans?[/QUOTE]50 Euro per 30 minutes.
[QUOTE=Willi69;1672243]50 Euro per 30 minutes.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the update, Willi69.
Hi Guys,
I am going to be in Dusseldorf soon and want to check out Oceans. Does it have an organized price structure like FKK Dolce Vita? In Dolce Vita the cost of anal was 50 Euros more, a pretty good deal, so I had a lot of anal sex there.
Does anyone know the cost of anal at Oceans?
[QUOTE=DeltaIndigo;1672693]
Does anyone know the cost of anal at Oceans?[/QUOTE]It all depends if you arrive by taxi or not...
[QUOTE=DeltaIndigo;1672693]Does anyone know the cost of anal at Oceans?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=CitizenKane;1672773]It all depends if you arrive by taxi or not...[/QUOTE]You: I'd like to fut you in the arse.
Girl: Did you arrive by taxi?
You: Why does that matter?
Girl: Club says it's usually 50 euro extra but 85 euro if you came by taxi.
No joke here. But I never saw a better FKK club with such a wellness area connected. Every hour between 8 pm and 2 am or later, they are making a sauna tisanerie with different fragrances. And new, also with birch branches or eucalyptus branches. It takes around 10 minutes in 90 centigrade environment. Ending with a served fresh plate of fruits or vegetables. Everything made and controlled by the Saunameister Oliver. Good job.
Not to say how the "Salzgrotte" is. Spending 30 minutes or more. Relaxing, to load your energy for the girls, waiting next room in the club area. A must do are the wonderful shows. The food is fresh made in the own kitchen.
I was there Thursday during the big Boat trade fair in Duesseldorf. It was crowded starting around 9 pm. But not to many girls. That is something the club need to work on. It is only a question of time.
Waiting for the summer season keeping in mind a wonderful heated pool and more extras. Certainly it gives the club much more interesting. That is my opinion. By the way, stuff is friendly and everything around is proper and clean.
So far for today. Next weekend with some more reports from other clubs around NRW. The FKK club highest rate fantasy land. It is good to live here.
Cheers.
[QUOTE=RempNobbes;1672837]But I never saw a better FKK club with such a wellness area connected.[/QUOTE]Then you never has visited YinYang in Roermond (The Netherlands, [URL]http://www.yinyang.nl[/URL]), near to the German border. All facilities missing in Oceans are present there: 2 Jacuzzis indoor, swimming pool indoor + outdoor, bio sauna, big and nice garden.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;1672814]You: I'd like to fut you in the arse.
Girl: Did you arrive by taxi?
You: Why does that matter?
Girl: Club says it's usually 50 euro extra but 85 euro if you came by taxi.[/QUOTE]So no serious answers from anyone? I was asking because I know Dolce Vita enforces the surcharge of 50 Extra for Anal, I wanted to know if it was the same at Oceans or if it was 100 extra.
[QUOTE=Willi69;1673063]Then you never has visited YinYang in Roermond (The Netherlands, [URL]http://www.yinyang.nl[/URL]), near to the German border. All facilities missing in Oceans are present there: 2 Jacuzzis indoor, swimming pool indoor + outdoor, bio sauna, big and nice garden.[/QUOTE]The wellness facilities at Artemis is not bad either.
But I like that things are brand-new at Oceans. The outdoor pool was cancel due to lack of permission from the local authorities.
Maybe they will find a solution one day.
[QUOTE=DeltaIndigo;1673194]So no serious answers from anyone? I was asking because I know Dolce Vita enforces the surcharge of 50 Extra for Anal, I wanted to know if it was the same at Oceans or if it was 100 extra.[/QUOTE]Consider 50-100 extra for the backdoor service. You need to ask the girls.
If you come by Taxi just tell the taxi driver to stop before the club, to avoid extra charge.
I do that a lot in other countries, where this is a comment practice when arriving by taxi to normal disco and nightclubs.
Took advantage of the Freikarte which I received earlier in the month for responding to an internet offer.
Arrived at 4:30 pm, was issued a robe, a towel, a wristband, and the previously described card for food and alcohol which one dare not lose or pay 100 Euro on the way out.
The reception lady was a bit preoccupied and muttered something in German about the door to the men's lockers. Usually when visiting a place like this for the first time one is offered a quick tour, but that didn't happen. I found myself staring at the lockers. You could choose whichever one you want, however there are no instructions for how the combination lock may be set, so I played around with an empty one for awhile until I figured it out, and then I really liked it.
I decided to start with dinner to build up strength for the evening ahead. It's not a buffet where you kind of graze as you go throughout the day. You get one free meal and you want to make the most of it. And if you're only going to eat one meal, this is the place to do it! OMG, this is the best food at any FKK I've ever visited! The free menu included one's choice of 5 options: 1) tomato / mozzarella plate, 2) Carbonara with egg, 3) Traditional Bolognese, 4) Fish filet with fries, 5) Pork schnitzel with mushroom sauce and fries. Everything is made to order by a chef who clearly knows what he's doing. I ordered the Schnitzel and it ranks among the best I've ever had in my life. It was also easily 1. 5-2 times larger than any schnitzel I've ordered in a restaurant before. The mushrooms weren't just thin sliced. The chunks were probably each a quarter of the mushroom, and the serving size was generous. The french fries were fresh from the fryer and served in a heaping pile. I think each dinner was accompanied by a fresh salad with a nice lettuce blend, sliced carrots, cucumber, and red bell pepper. When it was brought to my table (the dining room is the nicest I've seen at an FKK, and there are candles on each table as well as salt and peppercorn grinders), the presentation was so astounding I practically wanted to take a photograph and upload it to my social media (but obviously thought the better of that! But seriously, we've all seen food advertisements which look a lot better than what you ultimately end up with. Not the case here. You would be hard pressed to find a more visually pleasing and better tasting dinner even at a decent restaurant. I actually said "Wow!" aloud as the waitress put the plate in front of me. A far cry from the heat-lamp monstrosity at Oase the night before! I'll take this meal over an endless buffet of crap any day. If that weren't enough, they have a larger menu one can order from if one really wants to spend the extra money for it. I heard the chef is from Italy for what it's worth.
The advertised free non-alcoholic beverages include Coke, Diet Coke, Coke Zero, Sprite, Fanta orange, apple juice, orange juice, and multivitamin juice. I suspect one can also get things like coffee, tea, milk, etc. , but didn't ask. The sodas are served in chilled 0.2 liter bottles.
Most of the facility is really one giant warehouse with a tall ceiling, with the bar, dance poles, and couches occupying the main area, all of which is fairly dark and absolutely all non-smoking. The music early in the day was fairly soft, which pleased me. They turned it up at 8:00 pm, but it still wasn't too loud at all. The restaurant can be observed from the main area, so if a girl you are looking for is anywhere on the floor you can probably see her from almost anywhere. The Kino is tucked around the back of the bar. At the end of the main area there is a door which connects to the wellness area which contains the steamroom, sauna, and other interesting stuff that I didn't take the time to familiarize myself with. There's an unusual odor in the place which might somehow be connected to the wellness stuff. It's not bad, just different and noticeable.
By 5:30 pm I was through with dinner and ready to check out the ladies. All of them were clothed to some degree or another. Comparing to Oase, Sharks, and Artemis, I felt that the average gal was a little older, a little fuller-figured, with not as many pretty faces as at the other clubs. That said, all legal age levels were adequately represented, and there were some petite girls to go with the more healthy assortment. A quick walk around yielded a count of 14 ladies and 18 guys, not including anyone who might have been in a room or the locker areas.
I took up a position on a couch somewhat central to the main area, expecting to be approached. The overall feel of the club at the moment was lifeless. Most everybody present was just sitting there waiting for somebody else to do or say something. Ultimately a few girls did wander around to introduce themselves. This definitely isn't a club where visitors get ambushed by an aggressive throng of eager providers. I was told that an additional wave of ladies would arrive after 7:00 pm, so I didn't rush into anything. I did notice that the blonde bartender was cuter than every girl on the floor. That never changed the rest of the night.
Because the club is new and everybody has recently worked somewhere else in the recent past, I decided to take a little time with each girl who approached me to find out where they previously worked and what they were known as (if different), just in case it may interest some of the readers here who may know them from other places and perhaps had wondered where they had disappeared to. Assume the same name unless I say otherwise. I also approached a handful, particularly if I thought I might be interested for later. I avoided a fair number as well. So here's who I spoke with:
[B]Kathi[/B] - Polish, blonde, a bit chunky. Has been at Oceans for a week. Was previously at Zeus in Kussnacht, Schwyz, Switzerland.
[B]Michelle[/B] - Half-Romanian, half-Moroccan, tall busty brunette. Has been at Oceans since it opened 3 months ago. Was previously at Mainhattan.
[B]Chanel[/B] - Romanian, brunette, a bit chunky. Has been at Oceans since it opened 3 months ago. Was previously at Magnum, Samya, Acapulco, and others.
[B]Rosa[/B] - Romanian, cute, petite, fit blonde. 20 years old, 152 cm tall. Does not kiss. Has been at Oceans for 1 week. Was previously at a club in Austria (couldn't understand where she said it was). I did an ISG search for her name in Austria and came up empty.
[B]Giselle[/B] - Romanian, tall brunette, great figure, face so-so. Does not kiss. She visits Oceans off and on. Has previously worked at Dolce Vita.
[B]Aria[/B] - Romanian, pencil-thin blonde. Does not kiss. For part of the evening she had this sort of Taylor Swift with nerd glasses look going on. She really needs a burger. Make it a double. Has been at Oceans for 2 months. Was previously at Acapulco.
[B]Samira[/B] - Moroccan, older brunette. Has been at Oceans since it opened 3 months ago. Was previously at Freude.
[B]Vicki[/B] - Bulgarian, medium build with light brown hair. First day at Oceans. She came for the boat show. Has previously worked at Dolce Vita under the name Alexandra.
[B]Alena[/B] - Bulgarian, petite brunette. Also first day at Oceans. Came with Vicki for the boat show. Not sure if she's never done this before, or just didn't know how to answer the question of what clubs she may have worked previously. I would have thought Dolce Vita as well since she came with Vicki, but can't confirm.
[B]Andrade[/B] - Romanian, curvy brunette. 180 cm tall barefoot (196 cm in heels). Does not kiss. Has previously worked at Acapulco under the name Casey. Oceans felt the name sounded to much like a dog and asked her to choose something else.
[B]Monika[/B] - Bulgarian, petite brunette. Cute face. New in Germany, speaks almost no German, no English. Unable to ask her anything else because we couldn't communicate.
[B]Sena[/B] - German-born Turkish. Red hair, extremely pale skin. Petite. She's probably a natural redhead to begin with, but her hair is so shockingly orange that it looks like she strolled through the hair dye section at the department store and found a bottle with Ronald McDonald's picture on the front and just knew she had to have that! Has previously worked at Oase under the name Layla.
Another way that Oceans distinguishes itself from other clubs is the dancing area. Other clubs may have a stripper pole which is used for that precise purpose, and by whatever system the club employs the girls end up taking turns or getting assigned over the course of an evening, generally losing whatever articles of clothing they may have been wearing in the process. At Oceans there was nothing like that. At 8:20 pm the spotlight illuminated the two poles and the column between them, and out strutted three girls wearing what might best be described as showgirl attire, with some sort of interesting feathered headdress. They danced wearing these outfits for about 5-10 minutes, and then retreated to a staging area back by the private rooms. Over the course of the evening this would periodically recur again and again, each time with different girls and interesting costumes. At one point Andrade came out wearing a beautiful purple belly-dancer outfit and really made an impression. I asked her about it later to find out if it was some sort of Romanian dance that she was doing, and she laughed, responding that it was a terrible attempt at an Arabian dance and she thought she was horrible. The guys apparently didn't share her view, as she was largely booked the rest of the evening, including by me. Other outfits included Victoria's Secret-style angel wings and other feathered attire. All things considered, I like what they did more than how this sort of thing is done at other clubs.
Of the girls mentioned above, I sessioned with [B]Andrade[/B] and [B]Rosa[/B]. Andrade was quite warm and pleasing. I'm not normally a boob guy, but hers are about as nice and lush as they come. Very pleasant personality, and a nice 30 minutes. Rosa isn't as warm a personality type, but her petite little frame is phenomenal and it was pure fantasy touching and caressing her young flawless skin for another 30 minutes. To be 25 years younger!
[B]Final Analysis:[/B] For all intents and purposes, Oceans almost holds its own against the other clubs I've visited in Germany. When I did another headcount at 10:15 pm I ended up with 22 ladies and 35 guys, not accounting for anyone in a room or in the locker areas. Still nowhere near the 200 figure the club has previously advertised. There was probably a higher peak of ladies around 8:00 pm. Not quite the selection I've seen at the other clubs, yet it suffices if there are a half dozen girls one might be interested in, and in that respect it was perfectly acceptable. Nobody was booked solid despite the ratio of men to women. If there was someone you wanted to spend time with, you could have it. Much like the other clubs, there is a heavy Eastern European demographic. No Asians or Africans in the mix. One gal 'might' have been of Latin origin. And as mentioned before, the overall feel is a slightly older, slightly more full-figured, but probably someone for almost anyone's fancy. And did I mention the outstanding cuisine?! I don't know that I would go out of my way and make a special trip to Dusseldorf to visit Oceans again, but wouldn't think twice if already in the area. Might actually consider a special trip if I knew for certain that Rosa would still be there.
I took the time to go on Sunday afternoon to Oceans. Was quite surprised to the amount of men and girls. Had with Emma from Russia and Monica more then good GFS. They told me that it was very crowed on Friday and Saturday. All in all it was again I wonderful visit. Sunday is recommending if you like a club not that busy.
Ending up at 11:30 pm with a Oceans special sauna Aufguss with eucalyptus tinders. Very nice. Never had that before. Nice and are laying taste with a like of Russian style tinders mashes over your complete body back. After that you feel new born.
Waiting for the next visit soon. Cheers rempnobbes.
It sounds like Oceans will pick up more momentum, nice!
I predict this club would beat the others NRW clubs someday. I'm optimistic.
[QUOTE=NilleCopenhagen;1677833]It sounds like Oceans will pick up more momentum, nice!
I predict this club would beat the others NRW clubs someday. I'm optimistic.[/QUOTE]So let's try to think a little bit ahead here.
Will you be happy if other clubs in NRW will charge you 30 Euros, or whatever it is, extra if you arrive by taxi? Happy that you can pay extra for food? Happy so that you can enjoy a mediocre line-up from girls who couldn't make it in other NRW and HES clubs? Happy so you can enjoy a tourist trap that tries to up-sell you a lot of things that are standard at other clubs? Is this your idea of "nice" and "optimistic?" Should these business practices be rewarded?
Stop thinking with your dick! Fool!
[QUOTE=HornyHarry;1678204]So let's try to think a little bit ahead here.
Will you be happy if other clubs in NRW will charge you 30 Euros, or whatever it is, extra if you arrive by taxi? Happy that you can pay extra for food? Happy so that you can enjoy a mediocre line-up from girls who couldn't make it in other NRW and HES clubs? Happy so you can enjoy a tourist trap that tries to up-sell you a lot of things that are standard at other clubs? Is this your idea of "nice" and "optimistic?" Should these business practices be rewarded?
Stop thinking with your dick! Fool![/QUOTE]I should report you for insulting! Uhh I'm so Horny Harry LOL want to suck my dick! LOL.
The Oceans is trying to adjust their business to attract guys and girls, they adjust the prices often and have the food included now. More girls are coming, a few of my favorites from Aca and Samya are frequenting Oceans as well.
Regarding the taxi fee, I don't care as I'm driving, if you are concerned about the fee just make the taxi stop before the club, how hard can it be. This trick I use at some nightclubs in some cities there the taxi extra fee also applies.
The club have new and nice facilities, they just need to adjust the business model, then they can beat the others clubs, which I have visit so many times. I'm kind of bored by the clubs facilities, but I go there for the girls. If Oceans have the nicest girls the club would be a top-club, it's close to the city and airport as well.
[QUOTE=NilleCopenhagen;1678220]The club have new and nice facilities, they just need to adjust the business model, then they can beat the others clubs, which I have visit so many times. I'm kind of bored by the clubs facilities, but I go there for the girls. If Oceans have the nicest girls the club would be a top-club, it's close to the city and airport as well.[/QUOTE]Sorry, but your 'reasoning' just does not make [U]any[/U] sense whatsoever. If you don't care for the facilities, you have a car and just go for the girls, then why don't you drive to one of the existing clubs in NRW or HES, try a regular Haus or an escort agency? Or are you so easily misled by a catchy YouTube video full of sexy models who are most probably only hired for the grand opening, or has anyone else seen those beauties during normal club nights?
I'm afraid it's pretty clear by now that those 'new' and beautiful girls people saw in the YouTube video don't just fall from the sky, and the girls currently working there are mostly a ragtag collection of girls which are 'recycled' or 'poached' from other clubs. Add that to the overall [U]reduction[/U] in facilities like paying for food, having to pay your own commission if arriving by taxi (haha, WTF?!), the general state of the economy (lot's of girls in GT's, Sharks and Oase are complaining that business is very slow) then I'm totally puzzled why anyone would be in favor? I doubt that this is good for anyone, be it the working girls, the customers, or the club owners.
Competition is good if it increases services for customers and provides girls and clubs with money, but hoping that this business model succeeds is like turkeys voting for Christmas.
It's a pity, as Duesseldorf is a lot closer for me than some Hessen clubs and the place does look very nice, but their confusing pricing 'strategy' and the here reported mediocre line-up simply are not going to persuade me for a visit.
[QUOTE=HornyHarry;1678368]It's a pity, as Duesseldorf is a lot closer for me than some Hessen clubs and the place does look very nice, but their confusing pricing 'strategy' and the here reported mediocre line-up simply are not going to persuade me for a visit.[/QUOTE]I'll remember your words, so don't there if you don't like it, I'm not saying the club will get better next week, we are talking about maybe in 1+ year. It also took the others clubs some times to gain momentum. Club like Aca, was bad 5 years ago, but now is a top NRW club because of the nice girls.
So far the positives has been about facilities and offering a meal. Whoopdeedoo. Free meals were already provided at other clubs, and I don't go to club for facilites as I attend ACA for instance. I personally prefer if this club has never existed. With the rate increase of other clubs in all. It's just another club girls will move around to. Perhaps it will gain popularity some day, but I don't care for it's existence. NRW was perfectly fine without.
Regarding ACA, when I started hearing good things about the club back in 2012, a punter told me management changed at the time.
Does it have an outdoor garden?
[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1678485]So far the positives has been about facilities and offering a meal. Whoopdeedoo. Free meals were already provided at other clubs, and I don't go to club for facilites as I attend ACA for instance. I personally prefer if this club has never existed. With the rate increase of other clubs in all. It's just another club girls will move around to. Perhaps it will gain popularity some day, but I don't care for it's existence. NRW was perfectly fine without.
Regarding ACA, when I started hearing good things about the club back in 2012, a punter told me management changed at the time.[/QUOTE]The food sucks at ACA (unless there is an event), sometimes I wish to get out and get some decent food then get back for more fun.
[QUOTE=Breadman;1678813]Does it have an outdoor garden?[/QUOTE]They were building an outdoor area with a garden and pool, but they didn't got permission somehow, now there is an outdoor area with a few palm trees, but is not a real garden. I don't know their plans for the summer.
[QUOTE=Breadman;1678813]Does it have an outdoor garden?[/QUOTE]Yes. They do have an outdoor garden now with a few Palm trees and white sand. In spring they are opening the heated pool and have a barbecue area. The indoor whirl pool will be ready soon. What means what I saw today, when the two big panorama glas doors are open, you can go direct within one step form the wellness area to the outdoor garden. Depending on the summer weather in Germany, it is going to be a good outdoor garden season in Oceans.
I was still surprised on the number of girls today. It seemed first to be a quiet evening. But within being 10 pm the club was filled, more with girls than men. And that for a Thursday evening as preparation for the coming weekend.
Also they provided some new shows. Sauna every hour with new fragrances.
How to say, everything needs time and that is only a question of time.
One likes it, the other one not.
So far from the Ocean beach front.
Rempnobbes.
[QUOTE=Breadman;1678813]Does it have an outdoor garden?[/QUOTE]Yes. Allow access if you arrive by taxi!
Are there fresh natural pretty girls now? I mean not girls who worked before in all NRW other clubs.
At what time they arrive?
[QUOTE=Sirioja;1689176]Are there fresh natural pretty girls now? I mean not girls who worked before in all NRW other clubs.
At what time they arrive?[/QUOTE]Some girls told me they came from the clubs in Fra. I did not find the 'fresh pretty' girls. I think most of the girls worked in the other place before.
I went to last Saturday before 2 pm, 40 Eur entry, only 5 girls and 5 men. After 6 pm, the lineup was getting slowly up. Full lineup after 8 pm.
[QUOTE=NicMan;1689203]Some girls told me they came from the clubs in Fra. I did not find the 'fresh pretty' girls. I think most of the girls worked in the other place before.
I went to last Saturday before 2 pm, 40 Eur entry, only 5 girls and 5 men. After 6 pm, the lineup was getting slowly up. Full lineup after 8 pm.[/QUOTE]How many girls after 8 pm, with 10 rooms?
Mainly Romanian girls or some German?
Thanks
[QUOTE=Sirioja;1689256]How many girls after 8 pm, with 10 rooms?
Mainly Romanian girls or some German?
Thanks[/QUOTE]At 8 pm, 40 girls (maybe plus 10 in the rooms) and 50+ men. DJ played good music and some girls danced all night.
Mainly Rom girls and some Bul girls. One Slovakia girl. One girl looked like German but I did not talk to her.
Paid the club a quick visit on Wednesday, this week. Arrived around 6 pm. It was pretty quite. Counting around 40 girls and 30 men. Decided to go to the wellness area first and have some food. Both was like every time very good. From hour to hour the club got more crowded. With girls and men. Around 9 pm I counted around 50+ girls and more men. And yes. They do have new fresh faces. A good balanced mixture between Rom, Bulgarien, Turkish and also some German girls.
Weekends are mostly party time. Like last parties with themes, one weekend a red party and one weekend a white party. All the girls and service staff are the same colored dressed. Every hour show time with groups of dancing girls. And every hour in the sauna a fragrance water injection. Very well done.
Next weekend there. Let me know if you want to chat.
Cheers.
Rempnobbes.
[QUOTE=RempNobbes;1690439]Paid the club a quick visit on Wednesday, this week. Arrived around 6 pm. It was pretty quite. Counting around 40 girls and 30 men. Decided to go to the wellness area first and have some food. Both was like every time very good. From hour to hour the club got more crowded. With girls and men. Around 9 pm I counted around 50+ girls and more men. And yes. They do have new fresh faces. A good balanced mixture between Romanian, Bulgarian, Turkish and also some German girls.
Weekends are mostly party time. Like last parties with themes, one weekend a red party and one weekend a white party. All the girls and service staff are the same colored dressed. Every hour show time with groups of dancing girls. And every hour in the sauna a fragrance water injection. Very well done.
Next weekend there. Let me know if you want to chat.
Cheers.
Rempnobbes.[/QUOTE]Thanks for reporting, It sounds like Ocean has picked up more momentum, just as I predicted, very positive.
How was the line-up? I love the party mood.
I'll check up Ocean again in a couple of weeks as some of my favorites from Aca had moved to Oceans.
[QUOTE=NilleCopenhagen;1690985] some of my favorites from Aca had moved to Oceans.[/QUOTE]Which ACA girls are at oceans?
[QUOTE=NilleCopenhagen;1690985]Thanks for reporting, It sounds like Ocean has picked up more momentum, just as I predicted, very positive.
How was the line-up? I love the party mood.
I'll check up Ocean again in a couple of weeks as some of my favorites from Aca had moved to Oceans.[/QUOTE]Was there yesterday and wanted to go toady, but a bad flu approached me. No wonder when moving in places with much people now a days. Friday was Party time. The shows were run every 20 minutes what brought around 10 pm very good party time into the club. Amazing is that there is a good healthy mixture between German, Russian, Tschech, Polish, Bulgarian and a few Rom girls. Not to be expected in clubs in Germany anymore. Left around 2 am and saw still some new men coming in. The sofas (couch) were all occupied.
Cheers Rempnobbes.
[QUOTE=RempNobbes;1691244]Amazing is that there is a good healthy mixture between German, Russian, Tschech, Polish ..[/QUOTE]What percentage of the lineup, and what's the age range of the these girls? Are they coming from other clubs at the NRW?
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;1691098]Which ACA girls are at oceans?[/QUOTE]Probably all the cute ones as Aca lineup was horrible last couple of days.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;1691098]Which ACA girls are at oceans?[/QUOTE]It would be stupid of me to shout the names out in public, the girls know me LOL.
And they want to keep their options open so they can return without any hard feelings from the clubs.
I am going to try this club. The most convenient day is next Sunday. How Sunday's look there?
Any updates will be appreciated.
[QUOTE=RempNobbes;1691244]Was there yesterday and wanted to go toady,
Amazing is that there is a good healthy mixture between German, Russian, Tschech, Polish, Bulgarian and a few Rom girls. Not to be expected in clubs in Germany anymore. Left around 2 am and saw still some new men coming in. The sofas (couch) were all occupied.
Cheers Rempnobbes.[/QUOTE]These girls from many countries as they said are new or working in other NRW FKK before?
[QUOTE=Jymondor;1696288]I am going to try this club. The most convenient day is next Sunday. How Sunday's look there?
Any updates will be appreciated.[/QUOTE]I was there many Sunday's. During the daylight, what means now the sun set is around 7 pm, it is slow going, both sides, men and girls. But after around 8 pm to 9 pm it is getting better. New girls came in last Sunday. All shows are starting from 8 pm what makes the club more alive. But what club in Germany is good on a Sunday? Probably I do not need to answer here as you all know. Sometimes I really enjoy Sunday's. It has its special feeling. Just try it.
Some girls are seen in other clubs. Most new girls never seen before. Age average 25. Well, depending of the point of you.
Tomorrow Artemis Berlin. Weekend Oceans. Enjoy!
So far with cheers.
Rempnobbes.
Today (Sunday) I visited Oceans first time. Will return on Tuesday because on Monday I meet my friend in Acapulco. Other way I would go there three straight days. This is an excellent place to relax for all day long. Dancing girl after 8:00 PM will keep you entertaining. Good facility, good food. The only thing I cannot understand is why so advanced facility does not have Jacuzzi and / or indoor swimming pool.
Wi-FI is available, tablets allowed all over the place.
Line-up is very mixed. Of course it is far below Frankfurt clubs or GT or even ACA. But I had no problems to find two girls for two rooms. No more because I need to distribute energy between seven days of my venue.
I saw few familiar faces from different clubs. I am terrible to remember names. The only name I could remember is Mickey from Samya (a. K. a Michelle at Mainhatten & Villa vertigo). I sessioned with Flori (formerly Cleopatra from Oase). Another girl forgotten right after session.
It is a bit dark there. I would prefer more light. But in general my impressions are positive. This club might have a great future if management will do right things.
[QUOTE=Jymondor;1697890]The only thing I cannot understand is why so advanced facility does not have Jacuzzi and / or indoor swimming pool.[/QUOTE]On a big poster at the window beneath the sauna a jacuzzi (in the middle of the wellness area) is anounced for this year.
[QUOTE=Willi69;1698125]On a big poster at the window beneath the sauna a jacuzzi (in the middle of the wellness area) is anounced for this year.[/QUOTE]Yes. That is correct and it is the same I got as information from the reception.
The jacuzzi is planned for this year. The outdoor pool is hidden under the stone plates between sand beach and building. That is the reason why the plates are moving when you step on. They are loose fastened on a kind of temporarily kind of net. The jacuzzi and outdoor pool will close the wellness circle.
I was there last weeekend. Friday and Saturday. Again, the observing here is that the amount of girls are increase. I personally counted on Friday, at around 10 pm, 80 girls. Party feeling very good, as music and shows. Music not to loud, so that you could talk and / or understand your partner without screening to each other. Air quality tip top. For non smokers. Smokers have to go out into a heated tent outside. Fresh fruits are served within the sauna injections form one to the other hour.
Will be there on Wednesday and next weekend.
Cheers.
Rempnobbes.
By the way, there is a nice roll up advertising at the reception from Oceans. Free download and very informative if you need to know something about FKK clubs in Germany. Most languages available and running on iOS and Android system. It is called Freier Verkehr and has something to do a kind of "traffic" messages. Hard to translate but you will see yourself what meaning it has. Just enjoy and have a look. The time of technology is also in the oldest business of the world not stopping. Just to say, go with the time and use your smartphone.
Cheers.
Rempnobbes.
Are there any problems with long room waiting times on the busier Friday / Saturday nights?
Today I sessioned in Acapulco with Aria, who returned to ACA after few weeks in Oceans. She said that she did not pay entry fee in Oceans because she performed pole dancing. All dancing girls are granted free entry. However she did not like that deal. She had do dance up to 10 times per shift. She said that this is physically demanding especially if girl performs real pole dance. Besides each dance takes more than half of hour including changing dress and shower after.
[QUOTE=Jymondor;1698299]Today I sessioned in Acapulco with Aria, who returned to ACA after few weeks in Oceans. She said that she did not pay entry fee in Oceans because she performed pole dancing. All dancing girls are granted free entry. However she did not like that deal. She had do dance up to 10 times per shift. She said that this is physically demanding especially if girl performs real pole dance. Besides each dance takes more than half of hour including changing dress and shower after.[/QUOTE]I had read that Aria was doing the pole-dancing but I thought it might be some other girl. Just didn't picture a gangly, model-thin girl could actually do something so strenous. I've never seen Aria without her hipster glasses. And the times I saw her at ACA, she always just stood by the door.
[QUOTE=McAdonis;1698302]I had read that Aria was doing the pole-dancing but I thought it might be some other girl. Just didn't picture a gangly, model-thin girl could actually do something so strenous. I've never seen Aria without her hipster glasses. And the times I saw her at ACA, she always just stood by the door.[/QUOTE]Sounds like that Aria. Very slim. I would say podium-slim and gracious. But she wasn't wearing glasses. Today in ACA she occupied a sofa at the far wall at the entrance to the rooms. But she was walking back and forth on regular base demonstrating her slim body.
She is well stretched. I enjoyed this her feature in the room. So I wouldn't surprised that she performs real pole dancing.
BTW session was average. She performed all what she supposed to perform, allows DATY and digits, but nothing special. LFK only, BBBJ not skilled enough.
Funny but she newer watched Game of Thrones. She said that many men call her Aria Stark and she could not understand why.
On next Friday (27.3.) there will be Bert's birthday party in Oceans.
Life update. Did ex-Sara (LR, Panthera Haus) and very new girl Andrea. Both sessions great.
Just spoke to ex-Flofi from former Panthera Haus. Girls pay 55 Euros. This includes food. Staying overnight another 15 Euros. Same rooms as for sessions. No special rooms forvgirls overnighing.
It is 19:55. Lineup picking up. I would say up to 40 girl. Theke told about 60, but I cannot believe.
[QUOTE=Jymondor;1698692]Life update. Did ex-Sara (LR, Panthera Haus) and very new girl Andrea. Both sessions great.
Just spoke to ex-Flofi from former Panthera Haus. Girls pay 55 Euros. This includes food. Staying overnight another 15 Euros. Same rooms as for sessions. No special rooms forvgirls overnighing.
It is 19:55. Lineup picking up. I would say up to 40 girl. Theke told about 60, but I cannot believe.[/QUOTE]Greetings over to Oceans. I also know all three girls from old Panthera and Living Room times. By the way, her name was Flori in Panthera. The same for Sara. They do have new names there, but do not tell me. For me like you wrote, they have the same names also in other clubs.
Enjoy your stay. I will be there tomorrow Wednesday and for sure at be. A Birthday party on Friday.
Cheers.
[QUOTE=RempNobbes;1698717]Enjoy your stay. I will be there tomorrow Wednesday and for sure at be. A Birthday party on Friday.[/QUOTE]I will be there as well. Decided to repeat one time. Regrettably I could not stay till Friday. If I knew about that party earlier I would schedule my venue accordingly. Stay tomorrow online and we could meet and chat about the girls.
[QUOTE=RempNobbes;1698717]For me like you wrote, they have the same names also in other clubs.[/QUOTE] Same here. I always call girls with the the name a met them first time regardless under what name they work now.
[QUOTE=Jymondor;1698692]It is 19:55. Lineup picking up. I would say up to 40 girl. Theke told about 60, but I cannot believe.[/QUOTE]Maybe you can believe better when you consider that some girls are in the room, some girls are in the locker room, some girls may be eating. Not all the girls you see at the one time.
[QUOTE=Dufey;1698730]Maybe you can believe better when you consider that some girls are in the room, some girls are in the locker room, some girls may be eating. Not all the girls you see at the one time.[/QUOTE]Guys,
Should this party be better than a normal Friday at World or Sharks? It could full of people and to many girls and long lines for rooms as well. Is it worth going to instead of Sharks on a Friday? I am hosting a friend, so I am trying to find the best option.
Thanks!
[QUOTE=Dufey;1698730]Maybe you can believe better when you consider that some girls are in the room, some girls are in the locker room, some girls may be eating. Not all the girls you see at the one time.[/QUOTE]I count 24 girls in main room and eating area. Maybe three more in wellness area. However number of girls raised around 9:00 PM.
[QUOTE=Jymondor;1698746]I count 24 girls in main room and eating area. Maybe three more in wellness area. However number of girls raised around 9:00 PM.[/QUOTE]How many girls in the locker room and how many girls in the room? Are you counting them? Also are you counting the day shift girls and the night shift girls. Some day shift girls could have left already or are outside having a smoke so not in the main room.
But this is the thing. A man goes to Oase on the same day that Syzgies goes to Oase. The man says the line up is awful stating there was no more than 40 girls in the club and the man was there all day. But then Syzygies writes a line- up list with 90 girls on it. You cannot always count the girls at a point in time as being the line up.
Also there are girls in the room. For example, in Oase if there are 22 rooms then there could be 22 girls in them right now or in between clients getting washed in the locker room.
[QUOTE=Dufey;1698748]How many girls in the locker room and how many girls in the room? Are you counting them? Also are you counting the day shift girls and the night shift girls. Some day shift girls could have left already or are outside having a smoke so not in the main room.
But this is the thing. A man goes to Oase on the same day that Syzgies goes to Oase. The man says the line up is awful stating there was no more than 40 girls in the club and the man was there all day. But then Syzygies writes a line- up list with 90 girls on it. You cannot always count the girls at a point in time as being the line up.
Also there are girls in the room. For example, in Oase if there are 22 rooms then there could be 22 girls in them right now or in between clients getting washed in the locker room.[/QUOTE]That is the point. Good statement Dufey. BTW, will be there around 7 pm. PM.
[QUOTE=Danny227;1698734]Should this party be better than a normal Friday at World or Sharks? It could full of people and to many girls and long lines for rooms as well. Is it worth going to instead of Sharks on a Friday? I am hosting a friend, so I am trying to find the best option.[/QUOTE]It's the first party in Oceans, except the opening party. So there is no experience and all is possible.
BTW they have a new homepage.
[QUOTE=Danny227;1698734]Guys,
Should this party be better than a normal Friday at World or Sharks? It could full of people and to many girls and long lines for rooms as well. Is it worth going to instead of Sharks on a Friday? I am hosting a friend, so I am trying to find the best option.
Thanks![/QUOTE]You have also party on 27 March at Samya.
[QUOTE=Willi69;1698946]It's the first party in Oceans, except the opening party. So there is no experience and all is possible.
BTW they have a new homepage.[/QUOTE]Their new HP is very slow and is inspired by FKK Sharks.
OK so Aria is back to Aca, I'll catch her on Sat. For old times sake: the.
I didn't know she preformed pole dance, was she good?
[QUOTE=NilleCopenhagen;1698967]I didn't know she preformed pole dance, was she good?[/QUOTE]I didn't see her in Oceans. So I have no idea how good is she at the pole.
It looks slower today, but it is 19:45 only.
However I managed one of the greatest one-hour sessions in my long FKK history. Bulgarian Bonnie. Funny girl, fun session. Lots of DFK and pussy rubbing. One hour of the straight fun.
[QUOTE=Jymondor;1699079] Bulgarian Bonnie.[/QUOTE]Forgot to mention. She is ex-Bonnie from DV (Dusseldorf).
It is still slow here.
[QUOTE=Jymondor;1699079]It looks slower today, but it is 19:45 only.
However I managed one of the greatest one-hour sessions in my long FKK history. Bulgarian Bonnie. Funny girl, fun session. Lots of DFK and pussy rubbing. One hour of the straight fun.[/QUOTE]She was always funny or wild in the room (also at the couch) in DV.
How is the lineup (quality)? Comparable to the other clubs in NRW?
[QUOTE=Jymondor;1699102]It is still slow here.[/QUOTE]This place get packed somewhere between 21:20 and 22:20. When I return from the room after another 1 HR session I found crowd of men.
Verdict: three days that normally not good for mongering (Sun, Tue, Wed), eight sessions. One average, five good, two outstanding. Six girls look very nice, one chubby, one is ex-Sara (HP) - appearance is not her feature, as many of us know.
This is one of the best result in my mongering history. However, I cannot fully enjoy the club if girls are not completely nude. So my last day either Mainhatten or Sharks. Will decide while driving to Frankfurt.
Last weekend was party time. Friday started with a birthday party from Bert. At 9 pm invited person were allowed to get in with normal clothes. So there was from 9 pm a mixture between bathrobe people and normal clothed birthday people. And it was working very well. So normal daily club business including a birthday party. Never seen before. But it brought a special atmosphere into the club. Shows were regularly changed by a few birthday attractions. Place was crowded. Line up perfect. I left around 4 am in the morning and still new people came in. Not seen before.
After a relaxing Saturday afternoon I decided to go back to the club around 8 pm and was surprised what I saw at the parking lot. It was filled with cars and at least 5 Taxis stood in front of the entrance. I had to park, first time after the opening party in November, across the street. And wow, it was Saturday, no more birthday party, but Oceans was packed with people. More men than girls. But at all enough for everyone and nearly same line up like Friday. A few new German girls were seen.
Every hour sauna injection was filled up with men and some times they run out of dishes for food. Food was good as very time. On Friday they were able to offer the pork schnitzel but no more on Saturday. They did not expect that much people what could be the reason.
Just in short words my impressions from last weekend. Not much time toady to go more in detail.
Cheers.
Rempnobbes.
[QUOTE=RempNobbes;1700597]Last weekend was party time. Friday started with a birthday party from Bert. At 9 pm invited person were allowed to get in with normal clothes. So there was from 9 pm a mixture between bathrobe people and normal clothed birthday people. [/QUOTE]It's difficult to understand wanting to wear full clothes to an FKK. So much a hassle and time-waster to take them off and put them on for every room. I've been to a place beofre where the customers wore full clothes and disrobe and get dressed for every room. What a supreme hassle! In any case, the bathrobe just has so much a comfortable feel to it once you get used to it (or the towel if it's too hot for the bathrobe).
[QUOTE=UltraHappy;1700621]It's difficult to understand wanting to wear full clothes to an FKK. So much a hassle and time-waster to take them off and put them on for every room. I've been to a place beofre where the customers wore full clothes and disrobe and get dressed for every room.[/QUOTE]I never quite understood this about some clubs. I recall some Swiss clubs that I attended where it was mixed for the clothing for men being either a bathrobe of street clothes. That was Bumsalp.
Also Villa Vertigo on its party evenings at times allowed fully clothed men. Nille Copenhagen wrote often that he preferred to wear his normal clothes for the parties at Villa Vertigo.
It does not make me feel comfortable that some men are in towels or bathrobes being naked underneath, then some men are wearing shoes or boots and fully clothed.
Attended earlier and got charged the happy hour pricing of 40 EUR. They served breakfast which consisted of bread, jellies, cold meats. Nothing warm. Maybe only 15 girls on the floor through most of the early afternoon. Didn't have much to do, so did some sauna and sat in the the salt room, which is a damp room that smells like an aquarium. I suppose it is relaxing. Some people were sleeping in there. For dinner they offered five choices that are inclusive in the entry. I went with curry chicken over rice. For 40 EURs not bad. Had I paid 65 EUR, I probably would have felt cheated.
By the time I left at 8:30 pm the club was filling up. I tried a Romanian girl named Mona. 1. 65 cm. Tight thin body. Smallish breasts. Tattoos filled her upperback. Had a tongue piercing. Shaved hair on the sides. Had Miley Cyrus hair. Dyed blond hair that she combed back and went down to the middle of the back of her head. She did some DFK but it was a somewhat rushed session. There seemed to be at least 50 girls. Maybe even 80. Hard to say, but despite this I found no other targets or any girl that I would come back for. There is one girl who is a top looker for me, but I know her from a previous club and had a bad experience.
Lots of men were arriving. I think they have some promotion where they allow discounted pricing for large groups of men. I saw at least 2-3 large groups of men being given a tour of the place. Mostly it was groups of younger men in their 20's or 30's.
[QUOTE=McAdonis;1701379]Lots of men were arriving. I think they have some promotion where they allow discounted pricing for large groups of men. I saw at least 2-3 large groups of men being given a tour of the place.[/QUOTE]FKK Oceans had distributed "Unternehmenseinladungen" (=invitations for companies) to companies in the area of Duesseldorf (Germany / The Netherlands).
[URL]http://www.ijsberenforum.com/forum/showthread.php?39586-FKK-Club-Oceans-D%FCsseldorf-Rath-Algemeen&p=418615#post418615[/URL]
Some people speak about 30.000 of this invitations. They were valid until yesterday. One invitation included free entry for 3 people (see picture).
Especially at the weekend (in the evening) there is a (very) good LU in Oceans. Last Saturday I saw many girls from Romania (of course), but also girls (at least) from Germany, Morocco, Spain, Slovakia, Turkey, Colombia, the Caribbean, Russia and Poland, in sum about 50 or even more.
I had a very nice date with Samira, a girl from Morocco, I met (as Nora) recently in [B]2002[/B] in PHG.
[QUOTE=Dufey;1700637]I never quite understood this about some clubs. I recall some Swiss clubs that I attended where it was mixed for the clothing for men being either a bathrobe of street clothes. That was Bumsalp.
Also Villa Vertigo on its party evenings at times allowed fully clothed men. Nille Copenhagen wrote often that he preferred to wear his normal clothes for the parties at Villa Vertigo.
It does not make me feel comfortable that some men are in towels or bathrobes being naked underneath, then some men are wearing shoes or boots and fully clothed.[/QUOTE]Apparently, men wearing normal clothes do not take shower before having sex as there is no shower cabins in the rooms. For me not taking shower after work day is not hygienic.
[QUOTE=Sanuk327;1701810]Apparently, men wearing normal clothes do not take shower before having sex as there is no shower cabins in the rooms. For me not taking shower after work day is not hygienic.[/QUOTE]Well. In that case it was a birthday party and most of the men came in in clothes were also coming with a girl (wife), so there were no need for them to make a room. They are used to a surrounding like that. Personally I observed only a few men on a Friday or Saturday evening after 10 pm coming in with clothes and paid 100 Euro entrance for it. And if you see next time the first level of the building where the rooms (Zimmer) are, in each section is a shower. And for sure the girls will take care about hygienic. So far to what I saw in Oceans. Hope that helps to see it out from an other perspective.
Will be there tonight and a few days over the Easter weekend.
Cheers.
Rempnobbes.
Just arrived at OCEANS. Easter line up is fabulous. All girls are in nice Easter costumes. It is now 8 pm and I can count around 45 girls in the main room. First Easter bunny show started at 7 pm. Well done. Coming back soon with new messages.
Cheers.
Rempnobbes.
Hello,
I feel that this club has been much maligned, all new places tend to be. I went there for the first time yesterday, and I do have to say that the place itself is gorgeous. The layout, the decor and facilities are very very very nice and to tell you the truth I have not seen a better place in that respect anywhere else in Germany.
The club is both gorgeous and the facilities are very nice. There are IPads all around and free for your use. There is only one free dish and not unlimited food like at other places, but quite frankly since the food is made to order it is much better that way.
I walked from Dusseldorf-Rath station and it took me around 20 minutes, an easy route though.
The one thing that this new club is not up to par with is the lineup and quality of girls, the lineup at Aca during the Easter weekend was far far far better.
The best looking girl I sessioned with was Ewa from Bulgaria, beautiful body, but she is new to the game and unlike what I have read from other posters her performance level is sub standard I and far below par, I would give her a 4 out of 10 at best.
I think she is new to the game and very nervous, she did various things to kill the mood, like put her finger behind her pussy, while I was fucking her doggy style to minimize the penetration depth and told me not to touch the condom so that I could not rub my penis to make myself harder. I usually lose the mood at this point and I had, and then she said I was strange and so on. I don't know why anyone would be pleased with her performance. She is however very beautiful. I did see at least one ex Aca girl and two ex Magnum girls (I remembered them although I was at Magnum just once).
It was early on Easter Monday and maybe the lineup gets better after 19:00 when I left. But the lineup at Aca is unquestionably better and the service level at Aca is usually very good for me.
[QUOTE=DeltaIndigo;1704168]The club is both gorgeous and the facilities are very nice. There are IPads all around and free for your use. [/QUOTE]IPads all around free to use? Wow, I can feel the juices rushing to my balls!
[QUOTE=VitoCorleone;1704184]IPads all around free to use? Wow, I can feel the juices rushing to my balls![/QUOTE]Thank you for the disparaging remarks. Why did I point this out? Because there have been numerous complaints about Wifi not working at Aca for example. Here not only does the Wifi work but you have IPads to use, where you can check reviews about the girls at the place before you nail them.
The club does look very very very nice, I have not been to any of the Hessen clubs, but this one looks better than any other club in Germany, you have to see it for yourself to decide. I personally do not find sarcasm that witty or funny.
[QUOTE=DeltaIndigo;1704168]Hello,
I feel that this club has been much maligned, all new places tend to be. I went there for the first time yesterday, and I do have to say that the place itself is gorgeous. The layout, the decor and facilities are very very very nice and to tell you the truth I have not seen a better place in that respect anywhere else in Germany.
The club is both gorgeous and the facilities are very nice. There are IPads all around and free for your use. There is only one free dish and not unlimited food like at other places, but quite frankly since the food is made to order it is much better that way.
I walked from Dusseldorf-Rath station and it took me around 20 minutes, an easy route though.
The one thing that this new club is not up to par with is the lineup and quality of girls, the lineup at Aca during the Easter weekend was far far far better.
The best looking girl I sessioned with was Ewa from Bulgaria, beautiful body, but she is new to the game and unlike what I have read from other posters her performance level is sub standard I and far below par, I would give her a 4 out of 10 at best.
I think she is new to the game and very nervous, she did various things to kill the mood, like put her finger behind her pussy, while I was fucking her doggy style to minimize the penetration depth and told me not to touch the condom so that I could not rub my penis to make myself harder. I usually lose the mood at this point and I had, and then she said I was strange and so on. I don't know why anyone would be pleased with her performance. She is however very beautiful. I did see at least one ex Aca girl and two ex Magnum girls (I remembered them although I was at Magnum just once).
It was early on Easter Monday and maybe the lineup gets better after 19:00 when I left. But the lineup at Aca is unquestionably better and the service level at Aca is usually very good for me.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the report. So Monday before 7 pm, most clubs won't have a full LU. I would imagine that they are better closer to the end of the week. Do they have a nice outdoor? I was thinking Oase this weekend because the weather will be 20 degrees, but this might be an opportunity to check Oceans.
[QUOTE=DeltaIndigo;1704365]Thank you for the disparaging remarks. Why did I point this out? Because there have been numerous complaints about Wifi not working at Aca for example. Here not only does the Wifi work but you have IPads to use, where you can check reviews about the girls at the place before you nail them.
The club does look very very very nice, I have not been to any of the Hessen clubs, but this one looks better than any other club in Germany, you have to see it for yourself to decide. I personally do not find sarcasm that witty or funny.[/QUOTE]Not much to review since the lineups are crap.
[QUOTE=VitoCorleone;1704381]Not much to review since the lineups are crap.[/QUOTE]Have you been there? LOL.
[QUOTE=NilleCopenhagen;1704713]Have you been there? LOL.[/QUOTE]No. All my friends who have visited this club rave about the facilities but mention the Lu is crap.
[QUOTE=VitoCorleone;1704778]No. All my friends who have visited this club rave about the facilities but mention the Lu is crap.[/QUOTE]Well they are wrong, the LU picks up quite late around 10 pm-12 pm, there are some nice German girls there.
I don't need 100 beautiful girls just a handful or 2 are fine for me.
On a FKK-tour over several days I don't mind a "slow" day with a minor LU.
Then I can save energy and "gold" for the next upcoming days. I'll schedule Oceans in the beginning or in the middle of my trip if possible.
I have other Ace-clubs with great LU to compensate if the LU at Oceans didn't do it for me, but so far was able to find girls I would session with.
Actually I know some of them from other clubs LOL.
[QUOTE=NilleCopenhagen;1704896]Well they are wrong, the LU picks up quite late around 10 pm-12 pm, there are some nice German girls there.
I don't need 100 beautiful girls just a handful or 2 are fine for me.
On a FKK-tour over several days I don't mind a "slow" day with a minor LU.
Then I can save energy and "gold" for the next upcoming days. I'll schedule Oceans in the beginning or in the middle of my trip if possible.
I have other Ace-clubs with great LU to compensate if the LU at Oceans didn't do it for me, but so far was able to find girls I would session with.
Actually I know some of them from other clubs LOL.[/QUOTE]That's great you like the Lu. Like Mr know it all Ortos mentioned in another thread, it's the source. Since I do not know you or the type of girls you like YMMV. These other guys I've known for many years, some 10+ years. I know their type of girls so I can get a better idea the Lu. Since most these guys visit the clubs every weekend, very picky.
First time here. Arrived 1:30 PM for happy hour Euro 40 price. Had breakfast in the restaurant next to the huge bar, then looked around the place. Very big main area, almost cavernous, especially with so few people around. Nice spacious wellness area; they will supposedly install a Jacuzzi in 2015 in that area.
Very few girls (max 25 or so, about 10-12 fuckable), very few customers (probably 50 all day during the 14 hours I was there). Discovered the reason for this was that they were not allowed to play music since 6 PM Thursday to 6 AM Saturday morning because of Good Friday since they were not grandfathered from this restriction because they had not been around for 5 years (as Magnum was apparently exempt because of this). Also, I was told a lot of girls had gone home for Roman Catholic Easter. Place was like a morgue the whole time I was there, the girls bored out of their minds, yakking with each other to try to pass the time. Anybody going next year at Easter time would do well to go to Magnum on Friday and Oceans on Saturday to avoid this situation, especially since Oceans had an Easter party on Saturday (which was great according to another poster) while I was told Magnum was full of girls and people on Friday, and it was relatively dead on Saturday, when I went.
After 4-5 hours of trying to digest the breakfast, I chatted with Alena (Helena? A young, pixie faced Ro brunette with nice tits and ass. Went for a session with her. Nice kissing and BJ but she wanted extra for DATY, since she didn't like getting her pussy licked. Declined the extra. Did more BJ and fucking and ended the session at 30 minutes. Very nice girl, friendly after the session (she kissed me good-bye when I was leaving as she was standing at the door waiting for her ride, and asked me to come back Saturday). Would repeat.
Second girl was Chrissy, Ro brunette, GND face, sweet personality, a little plump but still nice tits and ass. Went with her and she asked if I wanted BJ with or without condom. I said without, whereupon she said that was extra. I told her there was no way that was extra, so she proceeded to do the BJ without. Good DFK and responsive to DATY, nice to fuck doggy. Good 30 minute session, would repeat.
Third session was with Kessi, Ro brunette, tall, big natural tits, great ass, beautiful face. Had what I thought was a great hour with her a few years ago in Acapulco, but she never acknowledged my existence after that session, neither at Acapulco nor Freude 39 when it was at Herne. I saw her sitting in the restaurant and asked her if she was Kessi. She said she was, I said it was nice to see you again, and moved on. She ignored me for the next four hours until I happened to walk by and she asked me why I didn't want to fuck her. I told her you ignored me for two years and now that business is bad you want to fuck me (although she did say in the room that she had had three sessions already). It would have been poetic justice for me to have told her to go fuck herself but there was no way I was not fucking such a beautiful woman, especially for only 50 Euro, no matter how shitty her attitude had been in the past. The 30-minute session went surprisingly well, despite her new no kissing rule (apparently one year old), with good DATY and fucking. Would repeat but unlikely she would want to except in extreme circumstances.
Final girl was Micky, 1/2 Ro and Italian, brunette, slim, A tits, 32 years old but looked younger. Not usually my type but she had an interesting face and personality. I asked her if she wanted to session with me (she never asked to go to the room) and she said yes. In the room I put on my usual music program and she responded very well to the slow romantic part, with her getting obviously aroused during DATY. She went really crazy during sex, fingering her clit like mad when I was pounding her in missionary to Romanian music, and came (for real) at least once. She looked exhausted at the end of the 30 minutes but she was back in the room less than 15 minutes later with another client, a testament to the recuperative power of women.
The woman that I wanted to fuck but didn't get to fuck was Violetta, a beautiful Polish blonde I had last year in Magnum. I saw her at the bar and reminded her we had been together at Magnum, chatted for a while, and told her I would go with her when I had recovered my strength. About two hours later I saw her at the bar and went to her. We chatted a bit and then she tried to sell me on a duo with her friend Amira, calling her over to come talk to us. Since I don't usually do duos, and I didn't like her proposed duo partner's looks, I told her that I didn't want a duo because they were never as good as one imagined and also that it was a hassle to change condoms all the time, to which they replied that would not be necessary. I demurred and Amira finally sensed that it wasn't going to happen so she told Violetta to just go herself and left but Violetta said it was both of them or nothing, so I left. I don't understand why she would give up probably an hour session to insist on a duo when she went by herself with guys at least two times that I saw unless she thought I was so besotted with her that she could bully me into a duo.
[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;1705193]The woman that I wanted to fuck but didn't get to fuck was Violetta, a beautiful Polish blonde I had last year in Magnum. I saw her at the bar and reminded her we had been together at Magnum, chatted for a while, and told her I would go with her when I had recovered my strength. About two hours later I saw her at the bar and went to her. We chatted a bit and then she tried to sell me on a duo with her friend Amira, calling her over to come talk to us. Since I don't usually do duos, and I didn't like her proposed duo partner's looks, I told her that I didn't want a duo because they were never as good as one imagined and also that it was a hassle to change condoms all the time, to which they replied that would not be necessary. I demurred and Amira finally sensed that it wasn't going to happen so she told Violetta to just go herself and left but Violetta said it was both of them or nothing, so I left. I don't understand why she would give up probably an hour session to insist on a duo when she went by herself with guys at least two times that I saw unless she thought I was so besotted with her that she could bully me into a duo.[/QUOTE]
Polish Violetta I have seen at Magnum before also. Prior to that, I've seen her for the first time at PHG in 2013. Some say she's a bit crazy, and I take it to mean her humor. Late 20's to early 30's? Fit body for her age. I did like her looks although a bit older type than I usually go for. Recall her being smiley and friendly with pretty face and blue eyes. Good interaction and attitude outside and in the room. A bit more wild type in the room, but then again she likes to drink and had some alcohol in her when I took her.
It's unfortunate she pushed for duo you weren't up for. It's her loss.
Visited Oceans last Sunday on the orthodox easter weekend. Very few men and girls. Outside area were new sun beds and yard furniture as so a big sun umbrella and some new trees. Nice weather with sunshine made the day relaxing. Followed by a few sauna visits and dinner the day was perfect for me. More infos up to next weeekend.
Cheers.
RempNobbes.
In there today. Just have a look at their homepage or also at the free download APP Freier Verkehr.
Interesting change. New Happy Hour. 2 for 1 and and and more.
Cheers.
Rempnobbes.
[QUOTE=RempNobbes;1708884]In there today. Just have a look at their homepage or also at the free download APP Freier Verkehr.
Interesting change. New Happy Hour. 2 for 1 and and and more.
Cheers.
Rempnobbes.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=RempNobbes;1707068]More infos up to next weeekend.
Cheers.
RempNobbes.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=RempNobbes;1703068]Coming back soon with new messages.
Cheers.
Rempnobbes.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=RempNobbes;1700597]
Just in short words my impressions from last weekend. Not much time toady to go more in detail.
Cheers.
Rempnobbes.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=RempNobbes;1698259]By the way, there is a nice roll up advertising at the reception from Oceans. Free download and very informative if you need to know something about FKK clubs in Germany. Most languages available and running on iOS and Android system. It is called Freier Verkehr and has something to do a kind of "traffic" messages. Hard to translate but you will see yourself what meaning it has. Just enjoy and have a look. The time of technology is also in the oldest business of the world not stopping. Just to say, go with the time and use your smartphone.
Cheers.
Rempnobbes.[/QUOTE]Except for advertizing apps and Ocean's homepage and describing the interior, do you have any RELEVANT information RempNobbes?
Things like; names of nice and attractive girls, line-up, zimmer experiences?
[QUOTE=RempNobbes;1707068]Visited Oceans last Sunday on the orthodox easter weekend. Very few men and girls. Outside area were new sun beds and yard furniture as so a big sun umbrella and some new trees. Nice weather with sunshine made the day relaxing. Followed by a few sauna visits and dinner the day was perfect for me. More infos up to next weeekend.
Cheers.
RempNobbes.[/QUOTE]
Any girls, or do you pay an entry fee in order to just to pay for food, sit in the sun and visit the sauna?
[QUOTE=HornyHarry;1708948] do you pay an entry fee in order to just to pay for food, sit in the sun and visit the sauna?[/QUOTE]There are a fair number of local men that come to the club to first and foremost to relax amongst the club's facilities. If the feeling takes them and a girl fits their schema then the man may book a girl for a 50 euro fling.
[QUOTE=HornyHarry;1708948]Except for advertizing apps and Ocean's homepage and describing the interior, do you have any RELEVANT information RempNobbes?
Things like; names of nice and attractive girls, line-up, zimmer experiences?
Any girls, or do you pay an entry fee in order to just to pay for food, sit in the sun and visit the sauna?[/QUOTE]More than enough. But should I share everything? There are some people outside who do like also to, know how much money they need to spend first to come into the club and what they in real get for it. So it I is better to know what are the basics costs are and if you check that, you can better decide how long and which girls you choose. This makes the big difference between people, some are thinking more girl orientated and some are interested in interior and at the end costs.
For those are interested or not, or to whom it concerns:
During my internet search today, I saw, that you are able to create a free entrance ticket in the "FREIER VERKEHR" App, running on Android and IOS, free download and all languages available, for Oceans, valid until end of April. Just to say, more money in your pocket and even more reports about girls, who like to write about.
Easy to use, just look for Oceans in Duesseldorf in the search field of the App and you will find the offer and a detailed description what to do exactly to get the free ticket.
A nice Sunday.
Best.
RempNobbes.
I visited Oceans 3 times in the messe weekend, Saturday afternoon and night, and Sunday midday.
I think it is well organised, line up was strong, best food than I have had in any clubs (I liked also that you can buy glass of quality wine).
Sauna department was good, kino was good (I like to do it in kino).
Free beer is missing but for the other positives I am willing to pay 20-30 € for my beers.
Also the location nearer to the center is good thing for me.
[QUOTE=Vompat;1711212]I visited Oceans 3 times in the messe weekend, Saturday afternoon and night, and Sunday midday.
I think it is well organised, line up was strong, best food than I have had in any clubs (I liked also that you can buy glass of quality wine).
Sauna department was good, kino was good (I like to do it in kino).
Free beer is missing but for the other positives I am willing to pay 20-30 for my beers.
Also the location nearer to the center is good thing for me.[/QUOTE]Are there new pretty girls or only girls working before in other NRW clubs? At what time attractive girls if there are, arrive?
[QUOTE=Vompat;1711212]I visited Oceans 3 times in the messe weekend, Saturday afternoon and night, and Sunday midday.
I think it is well organised, line up was strong, best food than I have had in any clubs (I liked also that you can buy glass of quality wine).
Sauna department was good, kino was good (I like to do it in kino).
Free beer is missing but for the other positives I am willing to pay 20-30 for my beers
Also the location nearer to the center is good thing for me.[/QUOTE]You can get free beer if you come in with the free entrance ticket from the App Freier Verkehr. Download the free App and create under offers your personal entrance code. That is it. Easy and in your language. Between Sunday and Thursday valid. On this days free beer until 7 pm. What else do you want?
Cheers.
[QUOTE=RempNobbes;1711799]You can get free beer if you come in with the free entrance ticket from the App Freier Verkehr. Download the free App and create under offers your personal entrance code. That is it. Easy and in your language. Between Sunday and Thursday valid. On this days free beer until 7 pm. What else do you want?
Cheers.[/QUOTE]It's well know that this is a dodgy app as per previous warnings on this forum.
[QUOTE=RempNobbes;1711799]You can get free beer if you come in with the free entrance ticket from the App Freier Verkehr.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Samplerr;1711832]It's well know that this is a dodgy app as per previous warnings on this forum.[/QUOTE]There are some rumors / errors:
First: Until 7 o'clock pm beer is [B]free for all people[/B] now. See the current banner:
[IMG]http://fkk-oceans.de/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/mega_happy_hour1.jpg[/IMG]
Second: FV App is [B]not[/B] evil. It uses GPS to locate the clubs around you. If you don't want this turn off GPS generally on your smartphone. FV App works also offline. For this reason, the current database is downloaded to your smartphone at every new start. Except the pictures. FV App can be very useful for people who are not familiar with the clubs in Europe. If you know all the clubs or visit always the same club (s) you can pass the App. Except you want to be informed about all events in all clubs for the next weeks. Or you want to benefit from the offers listed in FV App.
I was in Dus a couple of weeks ago, and thought I'd try Oceans, it's not a genuine FKK, as no girls are naked, normal entry is €65, but they do a discount if you come before 2 pm, so I only paid €40 but the reception asked me if I'd come by taxi, if I'd said yes they'd of charged me €30 extra! This is outrageous to charge customers for taxi commission, many clubs do pay commissions, but it always comes out of their own pocket.
As for the club itself, fairly large, good facilities, large bar / lounge room, free bier till 19 h, wellness area with large sauna and steam room, they just need a swimming pool and jacuzzi.
Girls, I got there at midday, so not a large selection, but one still led me into the porn kino, the girls approached me like at a Hessen club, and prices are also Hessen rates of €50 for first 30 then another €50 for second 30.
I popped out at 4 pm to check in to a nearby hotel, returned to the club at 7 pm, the receptionist remembered me, got changed and went to the bar, more girls had arrived, I counted around 40-50 girls, and there were some lookers too, I was deciding who to session with first, a petite blonde MILF Slovak called Kim had tried to tempt me earlier, said she only worked there at the weekend, and works in a office weekdays, nice girl, so was hoping for a good session, we got a room and she says we should go to shower, cynical me just thought that was time wasting to cut 10 minutes off the room time, we did share the shower and it was fun, but back in the room she only does covered oral, and when I shagged her she did the pet hate of mine of holding on to my cock to check the condom hasn't broken. Nice enough lady, but she's got to improve on her service.
I wasn't in to much of a rush to session again, there were plenty of choice, but I was to lazy to bother. You noticed that the hotter girls in the club don't usually approach guys, this is because guys always approach them, one such girl called Mona had the Brigitte Nielsson look, cropped hair with blonde on top, and fairly tall, good looking girl from Romania, first impression was she is ice cold, I thought about not going with her, but I soon got her laughing on the couch, which is a good sign, had to wait half hour for a room, as club was busy, did 30 mins with Mona, covered oral again, but wasn't bad, sex was good, she encouraged me to cum and took a good pounding, was unsure if I'd cum again, but managed to do so with Mona.
It was about 3 am by this point, the girls told me on a weekend they must stay till 7 am, I understand why the club wants them to remain, but I thought the chance of a good session with a tired girl would be slim, and my hotel bed was calling, so got a taxi back, be&be hotel is handy for the club, €49 a night, and 5-10 mins walk to Oceans.
As for Oceans, in general I was impressed by the layout, and facilities, I think the boss has followed Palace in a similar layout, and had managed to recruit many girls from other clubs, as at the moment I think it's still free entry for them. They just need a pool and jacuzzi out the back, and to quit with the stupid taxi charge, I only paid 40, but this doesn't include dinner, I ordered some dinner and when I left had to pay 15 for it.
[QUOTE=Jerboa;1713322]They just need a pool and jacuzzi out the back, and to quit with the stupid taxi charge, I only paid 40, but this doesn't include dinner, I ordered some dinner and when I left had to pay 15 for it.[/QUOTE]There are two or three set meals to choose from which are included in the entry. There is also an a la carte menu with prices for the various dishes.
[QUOTE=Jerboa;1713322]I was in Dus a couple of weeks ago, and thought I'd try Oceans, it's not a genuine FKK, as no girls are naked, normal entry is 65, but they do a discount if you come before 2 pm, so I only paid 40 but the reception asked me if I'd come by taxi, if I'd said yes they'd of charged me 30 extra! This is outrageous to charge customers for taxi commission, many clubs do pay commissions, but it always comes out of their own pocket.
As for the club itself, fairly large, good facilities, large bar / lounge room, free bier till 19 h, wellness area with large sauna and steam room, they just need a swimming pool and jacuzzi.
As for Oceans, in general I was impressed by the layout, and facilities, I think the boss has followed Palace in a similar layout, and had managed to recruit many girls from other clubs, as at the moment I think it's still free entry for them. They just need a pool and jacuzzi out the back, and to quit with the stupid taxi charge, I only paid 40, but this doesn't include dinner, I ordered some dinner and when I left had to pay 15
To get rid of the taxi costs, tell the taxi driver you stay in the B&B hotel. Only 5 minutes walk. So you we not charged with extra costs. And also tell the reception you are staying at B&B hotel. No discussion comes on.
Have fun.
[QUOTE=RempNobbes;1713522]To get rid of the taxi costs, tell the taxi driver you stay in the B&B hotel. Only 5 minutes walk. So you we not charged with extra costs. And also tell the reception you are staying at B&B hotel. No discussion comes on.
Have fun.[/QUOTE]If you arrived in the taxi do the taxi-driver go in with you and collect his fee?
They do that in Palace, but here the club pays not you!
My FKK outing could've ended before it began as I nearly burnt my cock in Van der Valk Airport Hotel's crappy shower. Luckily my foreskin was back in place when it happened. This settles the debate about circumcision, foreskins do offer some protection, if only against Van der Valk's homicidal showers.
At Oceans' an austere receptionist gave me the house rule lecture for first-timers but she did so in what was for my diminished hearing a inaudible whisper. That's when I must've missed some crucial points about food arrangements. As far as I could make out (no girl seemed to know for sure) one free dish is included in the cover charge, what you order after that is extra. Unlike at Sharks' or Oase's where eating time is a good opportunity to peep at girls and make eye contact, here the atmosphere was uncongenial, everyone keeping to themselves, girls deep in their iPhones.
The outdoor still had sand heaps and loose tiles but I'm not sure it will look up to much when it's finished.
I backed off from the steam bath because of the musty / pissy smell and went to the dry sauna where a repair man was tinkering at the door.
The huge sparsely lit hall where girls and customers were supposed to mingle felt surreal. Was it because of the mismatch between the pharaonic dimensions and the very average line-up? On their website Oceans have a spiel about working together with "political circles" to prevent h*u*m*a*n t*r*a*f*f*i*c*k*i*n*g], la-di-da. There's even talk of a social worker on the premises! This BS is tantamount to implying the FKK sector is rife with HT. If you can't compete, accuse your competitors of trafficking and with luck by the time the next new prostitution law comes along you'll be ideally positioned. I hope it doesn't pan out.
[QUOTE=XXL;1714336]My FKK outing could've ended before it began as I nearly burnt my cock in Van der Valk Airport Hotel's crappy shower. Luckily my foreskin was back in place when it happened. This settles the debate about circumcision, foreskins do offer some protection, if only against Van der Valk's homicidal showers.
At Oceans' an austere receptionist gave me the house rule lecture for first-timers but she did so in what was for my diminished hearing a inaudible whisper. That's when I must've missed some crucial points about food arrangements. As far as I could make out (no girl seemed to know for sure) one free dish is included in the cover charge, what you order after that is extra. Unlike at Sharks' or Oase's where eating time is a good opportunity to peep at girls and make eye contact, here the atmosphere was uncongenial, everyone keeping to themselves, girls deep in their iPhones.
The outdoor still had sand heaps and loose tiles but I'm not sure it will look up to much when it's finished.
I backed off from the steam bath because of the musty / pissy smell and went to the dry sauna where a repair man was tinkering at the door...[/QUOTE]Thanks for the report! That concludes my thoughts of visiting that establishment.
[QUOTE=XXL;1714336]This settles the debate about circumcision, foreskins do offer some protection.[/QUOTE]LOL yes the foreskin's role as a protective sheath against the elements should not be understated.
[QUOTE=Danny227;1714359]Thanks for the report! That concludes my thoughts of visiting that establishment.[/QUOTE]Before, compare Oceans casting to Hessen, I think you will find in Oceans the mothers of the girls in Hessen, girls who worked in all NRW clubs before, but I may mistake.
[QUOTE=XXL;1714336]My FKK outing could've ended before it began as I nearly burnt my cock in Van der Valk Airport Hotel's crappy shower. Luckily my foreskin was back in place when it happened. This settles the debate about circumcision, foreskins do offer some protection, if only against Van der Valk's homicidal showers.
At Oceans' an austere receptionist gave me the house rule lecture for first-timers but she did so in what was for my diminished hearing a inaudible whisper. That's when I must've missed some crucial points about food arrangements. As far as I could make out (no girl seemed to know for sure) one free dish is included in the cover charge, what you order after that is extra. Unlike at Sharks' or Oase's where eating time is a good opportunity to peep at girls and make eye contact, here the atmosphere was uncongenial, everyone keeping to themselves, girls deep in their iPhones.
The outdoor still had sand heaps and loose tiles but I'm not sure it will look up to much when it's finished.
I backed off from the steam bath because of the musty / pissy smell and went to the dry sauna where a repair man was tinkering at the door.
The huge sparsely lit hall where girls and customers were supposed to mingle felt surreal. Was it because of the mismatch between the pharaonic dimensions and the very average line-up? On their website Oceans have a spiel about working together with "political circles" to prevent h*u*m*a*n t*r*a*f*f*i*c*k*i*n*g], la-di-da. There's even talk of a social worker on the premises! This BS is tantamount to implying the FKK sector is rife with HT. If you can't compete, accuse your competitors of trafficking and with luck by the time the next new prostitution law comes along you'll be ideally positioned. I hope it doesn't pan out.[/QUOTE]So you didn't find Ocean to your liking, what time of day did you go? When I was there on a Friday the afternoon was quiet, but by the evening there was a good selection of girls, did you not see any girl you wanted to session with?
[QUOTE=Sirioja;1714435]Before, compare Oceans casting to Hessen, I think you will find in Oceans the mothers of the girls in Hessen, girls who worked in all NRW clubs before, but I may mistake.[/QUOTE]Same I noticed in YY, and also the newer girls I spot at GT regarding spotting girls from other clubs. This means I've been around too many clubs at the NRW. My first visit to YY, I saw more girls from other clubs such at GT, Magnum, and ACA. Second visit less so. But, when the place attracts lots of girls, they probably get pulled from other clubs. Given Oceans is fairly new, it would most likely pull girls from other clubs as well. Wouldn't be surprised if Mondial girls would leave that dump for this place. LOL. My earlier visits were when the free entry was offered for girls before NY's (not sure if still being offered), and I've seen some girls from ACA, Samya, and Palce. The girls from ACA and Samya are ones were either I didn't find attractive or I had a bad session. Also one average session with a girl there last visit. Also, I didn't find the management on the same level as GT, LR, or Samya.
Some of the names I know already too, like Pol Violetta(ex PHG, Magnum) and Bul Bonnie ex-DV (who I've seen at YY also).
Perhaps things have changed since my visit months ago. Go and check it out for us. LOL. Scratch the curiosity.
Visited about 2-3 weeks ago. Walked from Dusseldorf-Rath S-bahn, about 1. 5 km. Many construction workers in front of the place so my entry wasn't exactly discreet. Receptionist was friendly. Asked if I came by taxi or car, presumably for that taxi fee mentioned here. Found my answer "on foot" funny for some reason. Wristband key is digital. The lockers at the end of the locker room had a numerical keypad that I couldn't figure out but the ones closer to the door had the same touchpad like at Living Room.
Main bar area is large and has a small open kitchen cafeteria attached. Get this, only one plate of food included with entrance fee. What! Unacceptable. Half the fun of these places for me is getting to pig out on demand. There's a menu with 5 options and I was told only 4 were available. You sit down and a waitress tends to you though which is nice. I think I chose a paprika chicken or something with fries.
Went to the bar to order a water and coffee. First the bartender brought me three waters. I said no no just one. So she took away the other two. Then she made me three coffees. Again I laughed and said no I just want one. She stared at me pissed off and said "I don't speak English" and turned away. LOL. No idea how that miscommunication happened.
Past the bar area is the relaxation / sauna area with a few couches. There was a slim Brazilian masseuse who offered me a massage with HJ or maybe BJ. She was dancing on the main stage later to Brazilian music in Carnival garb. Then you can continue outside where there are a few lounge chairs on a platform surrounded by sand. Because we're at the ocean, you see. I laid down my towel on the sand to lie down on it since the few lounge chairs were taken. Not very comfortable since it's like a small layer of sand under rock. But the weather was nice.
It was quiet when I arrived around 4 pm but bar area filled up in the evening. I took off my robe because it was hot but one of the staff came up to me and very politely told me the management requires robe to be worn. So just a towel is not allowed for the men at the bar for some reason. I took:
1. Unknown name (Italy?, 20? ): Tall young girl who caught my eye at the bar. Pretty sure she said Italy and she didn't really look Romanian but who knows. Gave a great BBBJ that she didn't stop giving and I didn't stop her from giving it. After 15-20 minutes she was like "only blowjob?" Haha ok let's do this, went at it missionary and then had her assume the position for doggy. Surprisingly she had a ring of hair around her booty hole WTF. Whatever, I smushed the ass cheeks together and continued at it. She must have been hot anyway because I came which is not always a given for me. She went down with her stomach on the mattress and bent her legs to pull me deeper into her. Yum. She was passive overall but (most) visuals were good.
The lineup otherwise wasn't really to my taste and the food situation sucked. So I'm not in a hurry to go back. But Oceans was ok.
[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1714637]Same I noticed in YY, and also the newer girls I spot at GT regarding spotting girls from other clubs. This means I've been around too many clubs at the NRW. My first visit to YY, I saw more girls from other clubs such at GT, Magnum, and ACA. Second visit less so. But, when the place attracts lots of girls, they probably get pulled from other clubs. Given Oceans is fairly new, it would most likely pull girls from other clubs as well. Wouldn't be surprised if Mondial girls would leave that dump for this place. LOL. My earlier visits were when the free entry was offered for girls before NY's (not sure if still being offered), and I've seen some girls from ACA, Samya, and Palce. The girls from ACA and Samya are ones were either I didn't find attractive or I had a bad session. Also one average session with a girl there last visit. Also, I didn't find the management on the same level as GT, LR, or Samya.
Some of the names I know already too, like Pol Violetta(ex PHG, Magnum) and Bul Bonnie ex-DV (who I've seen at YY also).
Perhaps things have changed since my visit months ago. Go and check it out for us. LOL. Scratch the curiosity.[/QUOTE]Castings are mostly quite low at the moment in NRW, I don't plan to return to YY even Lara seems to be attractive?
Many men prefer to have sex with GND and think pretty girls will not provide good services, just because they are not self confident enough, I m not interested to have sex even gratis with a girl I don't find attractive, I pay for dream, not for hygienic sex.
Oceans is a beautiful club even no jacuzzi and swimming pool, but what about girls? Which is the most important for me.
[QUOTE=XXL;1714336]My FKK outing could've ended before it began as I nearly burnt my cock in Van der Valk Airport Hotel's crappy shower. Luckily my foreskin was back in place when it happened. This settles the debate about circumcision, foreskins do offer some protection, if only against Van der Valk's homicidal showers.
At Oceans' an austere receptionist gave me the house rule lecture for first-timers but she did so in what was for my diminished hearing a inaudible whisper. That's when I must've missed some crucial points about food arrangements. As far as I could make out (no girl seemed to know for sure) one free dish is included in the cover charge, what you order after that is extra. Unlike at Sharks' or Oase's where eating time is a good opportunity to peep at girls and make eye contact, here the atmosphere was uncongenial, everyone keeping to themselves, girls deep in their iPhones.
The outdoor still had sand heaps and loose tiles but I'm not sure it will look up to much when it's finished.
I backed off from the steam bath because of the musty / pissy smell and went to the dry sauna where a repair man was tinkering at the door.
The huge sparsely lit hall where girls and customers were supposed to mingle felt surreal. Was it because of the mismatch between the pharaonic dimensions and the very average line-up? On their website Oceans have a spiel about working together with "political circles" to prevent h*u*m*a*n t*r*a*f*f*i*c*k*i*n*g], la-di-da. There's even talk of a social worker on the premises! This BS is tantamount to implying the FKK sector is rife with HT. If you can't compete, accuse your competitors of trafficking and with luck by the time the next new prostitution law comes along you'll be ideally positioned. I hope it doesn't pan out.[/QUOTE]
Who is going to Van Der Valk Hotel DUS Airport, when you read carful the forum thread here. I am frequent traveling to DUS and chooses it one time during a Messe and never ever in my live and paid much money. Could better use it for the girls. The B&B hotel is comfortable and proper and clean for 49 Euro and in a walking distance of Oceans. If you want to visit other clubs like DV or MGM or or or .....You can easily use a taxi or the s-bahn. Also in walking distance.
Concerning your experience within Oceans, what time have you been there? I was yesterday there around 6 pm and it was very very quite. A few girls and men around. Even while we do have a national free day in Germany today. It is Maifeiertag. But around 10 pm the bar room was crowed, with more men than girls. But the line up was quite good. They do have a new shift coming in at 11 pm because of the opening time to 7 am in the morning. So, I saw also new girls coming in after 11 pm. Not usual and comparable with other well known FKK clubs around. When I left around 2 am at least a group of 10 Japanese people came in and at the reception it took me a while to check out, because there where 4 Russian speaking men getting the explanation of the house in English.
And yes. I smelt also a pissi smell in the steam room but brought that right away to the reception and they cleaned the steam room direct and it was gone. So, if no one does talk or say something to the reception, they do not have the chance to interact. And they do well. I know that.
What else should I say. Like I wrote in the other reports. It's every time a question of taste and timing and individuality.
Hope to see someone around following weekend.
Cheers.
[QUOTE=RempNobbes;1714774]Who is going to Van Der Valk Hotel DUS Airport, when you read carful the forum thread here. I am frequent traveling to DUS and chooses it one time during a Messe and never ever in my live and paid much money. Could better use it for the girls. The B&B hotel is comfortable and proper and clean for 49 Euro and in a walking distance of Oceans. If you want to visit other clubs like DV or MGM or or or .....You can easily use a taxi or the s-bahn. Also in walking distance.
Concerning your experience within Oceans, what time have you been there? I was yesterday there around 6 pm and it was very very quite. A few girls and men around. Even while we do have a national free day in Germany today. It is Maifeiertag. But around 10 pm the bar room was crowed, with more men than girls. But the line up was quite good. They do have a new shift coming in at 11 pm because of the opening time to 7 am in the morning. So, I saw also new girls coming in after 11 pm. Not usual and comparable with other well known FKK clubs around. When I left around 2 am at least a group of 10 Japanese people came in and at the reception it took me a while to check out, because there where 4 Russian speaking men getting the explanation of the house in English...[/QUOTE]It is always easier to get home and complain here on ISG than take action in the club, I thing our friend here got the wrong food out of the bad and got his dick burned so his pissed all day.
I know Oceans is a nightclub, there the atmosphere and action is best after 10 PM, I also saw new girls arriving after 11-12 pm.
But it's weird that some guys pay to keep their normal clothes on in the club.
[QUOTE=RempNobbes;1709815]For those are interested or not, or to whom it concerns:
During my internet search today, I saw, that you are able to create a free entrance ticket in the "FREIER VERKEHR" App, running on Android and IOS, free download and all languages available, for Oceans, valid until end of April. Just to say, more money in your pocket and even more reports about girls, who like to write about.
Easy to use, just look for Oceans in Duesseldorf in the search field of the App and you will find the offer and a detailed description what to do exactly to get the free ticket.[/QUOTE]In view of the big success, this offer is now valid until [b]May 14[/b].
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[QUOTE=RempNobbes;1714774]I am frequent traveling to DUS and chooses it one time during a Messe and never ever in my live and paid much money. Could better use it for the girls. The B&B hotel is comfortable and proper and clean for 49 Euro and in a walking distance of Oceans. If you want to visit other clubs like DV or MGM or or or .....You can easily use a taxi or the s-bahn. Also in walking distance.
[/QUOTE]Remp, as frequently as you post about the facilities, and etc. about Oceans, there must a good reason you'd choose this club as the clubs to visit over the others in the area. Are there any other clubs you attend within the vicinity? Can you do a comparison leaving out the facilities aspect to others clubs in the area? The girls? Is it a convenient location for you?
[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1715347]Remp, as frequently as you post about the facilities, and etc. about Oceans, there must a good reason you'd choose this club as the clubs to visit over the others in the area. Are there any other clubs you attend within the vicinity? Can you do a comparison leaving out the facilities aspect to others clubs in the area? The girls? Is it a convenient location for you?[/QUOTE]For those, are not reading all threads in the forum. See also my reports about Artemis in Berlin as one example. BTW, next weekend is Oceans time for me. It could be happen, in our FKK club live, that one club becomes the "only one" and preferred one club. That does also have sometimes to do with a distance (driving distance) from where you are living, or not? Just a economic question. Cheers RM.
[QUOTE=Willi69;1715175]In view of the big success, this offer is now valid until [b]May 14[/b].
.[/QUOTE]That's good, but I wonder if meals are included in free entry, not so bad if you only go for a couple of hours.
[QUOTE=Jerboa;1717789]That's good, but I wonder if meals are included in free entry, not so bad if you only go for a couple of hours.[/QUOTE]Only breakfast, soft drinks and beer (until 19:00), no lunch. Prices for lunch start at 10 .
Hugely disappointed with the Oceans lineup on Sunday, the best looking ones were ex-ACAP girls (Lucy, Marina and her younger sister) Service level from the ex-ACAP girls were terrible, Oceans management really need to do something before it turns into FKK Palace.
Girls were telling me they prefer champagne swigging guys who would spend hundreds on the sofa in drinks and only "last" 10 minutes in the rooms.
Went to Samya on Sunday, Oceans in Evening and GT on Monday. GT lineup was Oceans apart from Oceans and Samya. You ask any GT girls why they don't go to Oceans, and their answers are mainly the Gangsta type clienteles at Oceans.
65 for entry with 1 free paltry main course of pasta or chicken rice and free soft drinks only.
Surprised you even went to Oceans, Simex. Guess you had to see for yourself. Marina was good 3 years ago.
FF and McA, Simex accidentally found Lucy!
I think everybody that been to ACA probably seen the big titted Lucy one time or another. See her there added to the disappointment(not a fan). I may give this place a shot again, but this time it's got to be a busier night. Probably would pull in girls if there was a Messe, but non-Messe. I don't know. I'm just curious if the after 10 pm on weekend night is decent.
Anybody have any idea what percentage are not from other clubs? I've actually spotted a Ro girl that I haven't seen at other clubs except Oceans at GT on my last visit.
There is probably a reason why the GT door policy exists in Duss. Magnum which is one of the closer one to Duss attracts thugs (or wannabees. LOL.), and you see a bit of a contrast with and without a door policy in clubs. If Oceans got thugs too, must have spilled over. I don't really give a shit about clientel, so Magnum don't bother me. I found a few nice girls over time, and let the thugs do their business, and I do mine. Just exaggeration, most of them are probably pansies(except the short necks). LOL. I think the clientel scares off some girls, but at the same time in the weekend, good money for girls as they become scarce in the early morn being in the room.
[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1717941]Anybody have any idea what percentage are not from other clubs? I've actually spotted a Ro girl that I haven't seen at other clubs except Oceans at GT on my last visit.[/QUOTE]Very very low. They probably hire only girls with some experience, since they can not take the risk of total duds.
On weekend nights the place is fairly busy, it's not totally bad but overall has a strange warehouse vibe, The facilities are very nice, wellness is large and is no fly zone for girls, like Palace or Magnum the place is set up for night business, they are working on some outdoor with a fake beach but it looks quite surreal.
The shows are a nice touch, they give a different feel and make it less boring of you visit alone for many hours.
Food is good, bartendering is nice, of course the evening food limit is annoying (dunno what happens in daytime).
I had a couple of good sessions, including lots of DFK and free couch time (just like almost everywhere else actually) the girls tried really hard to please and seemed very concerned about not being reported as bad providers at theke. Nothing really super special but, hey, they were both Romanian teens, like 90% of the lineup, so what can you expect.
Paradise for HB & co !
The clientele was like all other clubs without door policy, maybe even less Germans than usual, but I did not notice any thugs / biker types, I was by far the ugliest and most dangerous guy around LOL.
[QUOTE=Simex;1717928]Hugely disappointed with the Oceans lineup on Sunday[/QUOTE]Month ago I visited Oceans three straight days with one interruption for ACA. I liked it. Average lineup, but excelled opportunity to sit with my tablet at the sofa in the last row, surf Internet and watch all the girls and shows.
Today security approached me and said that tablet and phones allowed in locker room only. At my first visit I've been told that tablets allowed everywhere in the club. Theke told me that policy has been changed.
Well, I don't see any more arguments to return to Oceans again.
Tomorrow is Sunday and I already paid my next night at B&B Dusseldorf Airport. I have a rental car. What would be a better option for Sunday? How GT looks Sundays? Newer been there on Sunday. But I see negative reports on GT tread as well. I am afraid I will end up in ACA. This is last choice when there is no better idea.
[QUOTE=Jymondor;1718338]Tomorrow is Sunday and I already paid my next night at B&B Dusseldorf Airport. I have a rental car. What would be a better option for Sunday? How GT looks Sundays? Newer been there on Sunday. But I see negative reports on GT tread as well. I am afraid I will end up in ACA. This is last choice when there is no better idea.[/QUOTE]Don't pay too much attention to negative reports as there is the element of YMMV on a visit. By YMMV, I mean differing opinions on the LU, and the experiences. Better off checking the place out than relying on handful of reports. Upsell has been reported with girls, but there are various reasons for that. Sunday can be hit or miss in terms of LU. For a long time Sunday on avg was pretty full LU on my visits, but recently I've had visits numbers were lower. It's worth checking out if you haven't been.
[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1718352]Don't pay too much attention to negative reports as there is the element of YMMV on a visit. By YMMV, I mean differing opinions on the LU, and the experiences. Better off checking the place out than relying on handful of reports. Upsell has been reported with girls, but there are various reasons for that. Sunday can be hit or miss in terms of LU. For a long time Sunday on avg was pretty full LU on my visits, but recently I've had visits numbers were lower. It's worth checking out if you haven't been.[/QUOTE]Thank you! I am not afraid of upselling because after 8 years of my FKK history I know how to manage this. It is quite of drive but I'll try. Haven'n been in GT at least two years or so.
Is it crowdy there Sundays or it is a slower day like in most of clubs?
Is wi-fi still available there?
[QUOTE=Jymondor;1718356]Thank you! I am not afraid of upselling because after 8 years of my FKK history I know how to manage this. It is quite of drive but I'll try. Haven'n been in GT at least two years or so.
Is it crowdy there Sundays or it is a slower day like in most of clubs?
Is wi-fi still available there?[/QUOTE]I've been on Sunday when I would say fairly busy, and would look crowded since the lounge is so small compared to some. I've had visits it wasn't, so I can't tell you how it would be on your visit. But, Sunday isn't a slow day like a Monday. As far as upsell, it depends on what girl you choose. It's just a small minority, but some of the Germans seem to do it. With the warm weather, this could change things. Punters and girls out when the sun is out.
Wifi is there, but it doesn't work well, and depends on where you use it. I haven't had luck in the lounge or the tent area. The beach chair area in the sauna worked for me. ACA is the same. Crappy wifi. PHG, and LR wifi works well.
Jet lag and the lineup at Samya wasn't doing it for me that afternoon. The hotel was close by Oceans and didn't fancy the drive to GT, as already scheduled to meet someone at GT on Monday.
Wanted to give Oceans another try (first visit was opening day) as some positive reports by well known regulars on here.
Don't get me wrong, I got real good session with Marina and Lucy at ACA. But the overall vibe of the Oceans girls wasn't doing it for me. I feel Oceans were keen to attract as many girls as possible to fill such a large club and promise of 200+ girls. Hence, management are not so strict with how they go about their business, as long as there's a decent LU. Can't really comment on other nights.
If it was between Oceans & Magnum, I'll pick Magnum. Oceans Vs GT = No contest with GT consistent LU 7 days of the week.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;1717937]Surprised you even went to Oceans, Simex. Guess you had to see for yourself. Marina was good 3 years ago.
FF and McA, Simex accidentally found Lucy![/QUOTE]
My favourite days at GT always a Sunday & Monday. Rooms always available and LU consistently good.
[QUOTE=Jymondor;1718356]Thank you! I am not afraid of upselling because after 8 years of my FKK history I know how to manage this. It is quite of drive but I'll try. Haven'n been in GT at least two years or so.
Is it crowdy there Sundays or it is a slower day like in most of clubs?
Is wi-fi still available there?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Jymondor;1718356]Is wi-fi still available there?[/QUOTE]Wi-fi signal was very good in every corner of the main area and dining area during my GT visit last Tuesday.
[QUOTE=Lalabo;1718410]Wi-fi signal was very good in every corner of the main area and dining area during my GT visit last Tuesday.[/QUOTE]While the signal is good in GT, actual bandwidth is almost nonexistent. Couldn't even pull up ISG without multiple retries.
Another deal to get free entrance in Oceans:
Write a report (in German or English) on [URL]http://fkk-club.com[/URL] about any of the clubs listet there, and you get a code (via email, [B]in every case, no competition[/B]) for a free entrance ticket in Oceans.
[URL]http://fkk-club.com/images/Fr%C3%BChsommer_Aktion_Andere.PNG[/URL]
You need to register first if not done already.
The tickets are valid until May 26 on every day.
Here is a similar deal described for this site:
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3630-FKK-Oceans-D%FCsseldorf&p=1659608&viewfull=1#post1659608[/URL]
Was there last weekend Saturday. Arrived at 3 pm and went out the other day 3 am.
There is a new Volleyball course on the right hand side when coming out to the outside area. Filled with fresh new white sand. Well, I was lucky and the sun was out with moderate temperatures. We, what means some of the girls and some men as me, we had much fun starting to play volleyball over the afternoon during night. Especially when the girls are starting to get rid of their bikini top. Oh man! Suddenly there were much more balls in the play. How cool.
Cheers.
[QUOTE=Willi69;1719683]Another deal to get free entrance in Oceans:
Write a report (in German or English) on [URL]http://fkk-club.com[/URL] about any of the clubs listet there, and you get a code (via email, [B]in every case, no competition[/B]) for a free entrance ticket in Oceans.
[URL]http://fkk-club.com/images/Fr%C3%BChsommer_Aktion_Andere.PNG[/URL]
You need to register first if not done already.
The tickets are valid until May 26 on every day.
Here is a similar deal described for this site:
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3630-FKK-Oceans-D%FCsseldorf&p=1659608&viewfull=1#post1659608[/URL][/QUOTE]It works, I receive free entrance for Oceans from FKK-[URL]club.com[/URL].
You do have free WiFi signal in Oceans and the signal is very good in the first bar area and restaurant. Direction wellness area the signal goes down but is still available.
By the way. You are allowed to use your own phones or laptop in the restaurant. If you want to work in the wellness area with a IPad, Oceans is offering you at least 10 IPads for your own use and complete in Oceans. They are at the right corner of the bar near the restaurant, where they are mostly on the charging station.
What do you want more. Take it and use it.
Cheers.
[QUOTE=Willi69;1719683]Another deal to get free entrance in Oceans:
Write a report (in German or English) on [URL]http://fkk-club.com[/URL] about any of the clubs listet there, and you get a code (via email, [B]in every case, no competition[/B]) for a free entrance ticket in Oceans.[/QUOTE]I registered and wrote a club-comment-review but I didn't receive any email with a free entrance? How long does it takes to get the email? Or I'm doing something wrong?
Thanks
[QUOTE=NilleCopenhagen;1723101]I registered and wrote a club-comment-review but I didn't receive any email with a free entrance? How long does it takes to get the email? Or I'm doing something wrong?
Thanks[/QUOTE]If you write for a club, you will receive the day after.
Beware, it seems most free entrance tickets are NOT valid (anymore) on Friday and Saturday, keep that in mind when visiting!
[QUOTE=NilleCopenhagen;1723101]I registered and wrote a club-comment-review but I didn't receive any email with a free entrance? How long does it takes to get the email? Or I'm doing something wrong?[/QUOTE]You wrote yesterday evening. I suppose the owner of the site is not online 24 hours / day.
[QUOTE=Willi69;1723555]You wrote yesterday evening. I suppose the owner of the site is not online 24 hours / day.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the tip, I now got at free pass to Oceans, I'll be there during next week.
[QUOTE=Maxime;1723553]Beware, it seems most free entrance tickets are NOT valid (anymore) on Friday and Saturday, keep that in mind when visiting![/QUOTE]Yes, [B]FKK Oceans[/B] has changed the rules during the game. Also in Dutch Ijsberenforum.
You can see the difference on your ticket. If you have a ticket with the limitation "free admission from Sunday to Thursday" then the ticket is only valid on these days. Otherwise it's valid on all days (the older tickets) .
Free entry received last week end is for all days until Tuesday 26 May.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;1723969]Free entry received last week end is for all days until Tuesday 26 May.[/QUOTE]So lets go in the Oceans next night for free, last time just the Saturday after the opening no girl for me from noon to 9 pm and then went for a night in World.
What a hell to drive through Belgium from Mons to Liège, same time than driving to World with 150 kms less, quite close to Aca.
Arrived at 9 pm, good welcome even free entry, staff is very friendly, high level services club like Sakura, good hot chocolate, apple juice and real natural water, eat spaghetti tomatoes for 10 € , included if paid entry, teeth brush and mouth wash in toilets.
Saw the odd boss.
About 40 girls, casting average, girls not naked, but what a surprise with Emma. Ro from Bucarest, pretty slim dark blond mid length hair with beautiful eyes, piercing above lip left side and belly, tattoo on pubic, wearing short black dress, arrived 2 days ago from Harem Padenborn, room upstairs at 11 pm, she trusted me to play and for second time after Valentina Samya, she opens her with my hand, sex was so free, sweet, real GFE, I fail to perform but my fault, it could have been amazing, but thanks to her to have changed my mind for 1 h 100 € .
Then go to sleep in relax room for 4 h like old baby.
Second room at 5 am with pretty blond curly hair Irina. Ro from Constanza, small tits, 4 years in this job, used to fast suck and fuck because certainly think pretty enough, only 30 mn and was said 10 times I don t like love but her nipples became dark and hard, finished in doggy, gave her 50 € , kiss and said her: I love you, smile and my god for answer, will not repeat, not GFE.
So really classy club, they just need to find more attractive look girls, I think better to go after 7 pm on Friday and Saturday, I left at 7 am with cloudy day.
Thanks to FKK-club and Oceans for free entry, find a few Moldavian or east Ukrainian girls, have free foods in paid entry and you can become number 1 in NRW in a big town like Dusseldorf with many men.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;1724320]So lets go in the Oceans next night for free, last time just the Saturday after the opening no girl for me from noon to 9 pm and then went for a night in World.[/QUOTE]Tonight it is Oceans time for me. I am starting earlier this afternoon, because the weather is nice and I can spend much time outdoor and play volleyball.
Please PM if you want to meet and chat. I am dreaming of a kind of German couch (international couch) like we do have in Artemis in Berlin.
Hope to see you.
BTW. The new version FV app 1. 5. 5 is available for android systems. IOS takes a few days longer. But there are new functions like NEWS. A must see. And all FKK Premium Partners are in first row of the club function. New offers with free coupons are following soon as so some free entrance tickets for several clubs in Germany. Keep an eye in to the App and you will see.
Cheers.
Rempnobbes.
[QUOTE=RempNobbes;1724734]Tonight it is Oceans time for me. I am starting earlier this afternoon, because the weather is nice and I can spend much time outdoor and play volleyball.
Please PM if you want to meet and chat. I am dreaming of a kind of German couch (international couch) like we do have in Artemis in Berlin.
Hope to see you.
BTW. The new version FV app 1. 5. 5 is available for android systems. IOS takes a few days longer. But there are new functions like NEWS. A must see. And all FKK Premium Partners are in first row of the club function. New offers with free coupons are following soon as so some free entrance tickets for several clubs in Germany. Keep an eye in to the App and you will see.
Cheers.
Rempnobbes.[/QUOTE]Was there on Friday night, not Saturday, hope you enjoyed volley in the sand, maybe you met Emma, my best girl of the week end, she surprised me so much becoming so woman during foreplay, she made me loose control, if I could have controlled longer, could have been unforgettable sex in missionary.
How many girls on Saturday night? Not so many on Friday, about 40 and not many pretty.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;1725474]Was there on Friday night, not Saturday, hope you enjoyed volley in the sand, maybe you met Emma, my best girl of the week end, she surprised me so much becoming so woman during foreplay, she made me loose control, if I could have controlled longer, could have been unforgettable sex in missionary.
How many girls on Saturday night? Not so many on Friday, about 40 and not many pretty.[/QUOTE]Was there on Saturday and Sunday night. We had a national holiday on Monday in Germany. Saturday was the same you wrote with 4 new real German girls. Sunday night ran better then Saturday night. I think a counted around 50 on Saturday and nearly 70 on Sunday night. Not the day shift. It is depending on your taste if pretty or not. That is very individual.
In June I heard that Oceans is going to make some special weeks, like American or Asian week with weekly specials. Keep an eye on that.
Cheers from RempNobbes.
How were the 4 German girls? Blond? Brunette? Natural body? Pretty face? Friendly?
[QUOTE=Sirioja;1726130]How were the 4 German girls? Blond? Brunette? Natural body? Pretty face? Friendly?[/QUOTE]All 4 are well known in our community. They came from Frankfurt, Palace and Oase. For me, yes, friendly and natural bodies as so pretty faces. One short red hairs and two blondes with lots of tattoos and one brunette.
Forgot to mention. Two new colored women. Very slim and sexy bodies, nice faces and soft skin. One name I can not forget is Rachel. Speaking Dutch and English fluent. Outstanding service in the room.
One new Brazilian girl. I thought she has silicon tits, but surprising, they are pure nature.
What I noticed, and got compared to other clubs, the sound system in Oceans is unbeatable. High quality sound system and high ceilings, sounds isolated walls, makes that happen. You are able to have every time a conversation with your girl you like or even with a friend who is joining you. In comparison to some other clubs around, here to say the loudness and non quality sounds of music, most of the times are falling me on my nerves. It is often not possible to talk to each other. What a shame. May be something we all need to think about or not?
Cheers RempNobbes.
Having only visited Atmos FKK before in Hamburg my friend and I decided to go check out Dusseldorf. We had planned to go Living rooms first as all the reviews had hyped them up well. After landing at Dusseldorf airport my friend called them from the airport and asked the basics and they seemed friendly enough and helpful.
We took the train to this area called Kaarst which was about 45 minutes to an hour journey where Living rooms is located. We knocked on the door and a woman comes out and says "sorry not tonight" Huh? We asked her why? She gave us no reason and just said "not tonight". On the phone they sounded fine, maybe it was because we were not white but brown, olive skinned? Heck I don't know.
So it's around 9 pm now on a Wednesday night and we take the train back to Dusseldorf central. In desperation we ask a cabbie where is the best place to go, Magnum or Oceans? He says oceans and we go there. Of course he will go to oceans as he gets a 30 euro kickback from each of us. Yes my friend and I paid 95 euros each to get in at 10 pm instead of paying the normal 65 euro entry fee. I'm sure you have read in many other previous posts, try to avoid cabs taking to you any FKK's unless you know for sure they don't get a kickback from you paying extra. To be fair Oceans club do mention on their site that Taxi fees are charged to the customer. No fair in my opinion.
You've probably read many things about Oceans from others so I'm not going to go over the same things. Here's some important points.
*The place is full of Romanians. I'm sorry if I have offended anyone but if I wanted to bang a Romanian I would have stayed in London. I mean there was no other nationalities. My friend spoke to one of the girls and she said that 95% of the girls in Dusseldorf working in FKK clubs are Romanians! My experience with Romanian girls "most not all" and I have seen plenty is that there is no GFE. They are mostly clock watchers, who don't give you the service you need.
*You walk into oceans and yes the place looks stunning but you get 1 meal free and that is it? They advertise you get snacks etc. All I saw were tiny pretzel sticks with salted peanuts at the bar.
*The girls seemed more busy on the mobiles or just sitting along the sides. The place had no atmosphere? We were told on the phone there would be 50 girls working on Wednesday night. I counted around half that number. I didn't try out the sauna or massage but for me the most important thing is the girls & food service.
The first girl I went with for the half hour said time's up in 15 minutes. LOL I was like hang on I haven't finished yet. She says, hurry up because time is up. I said we only been in the room for 15 minutes? This girl calls herself Gabriella, short hair and dances on stage. Just be warned.
Stayed at Oceans until 3:30 am and then went off to a local hotel to sleep off what was a disappointing night. Next morning went back to Oceans as it was happy hour. Why did we go back? Because we had a flight later in the day and wanted to just relax somewhere.
Most of the girls we saw the night before were there in the morning at 11:30 am. They told us they sleep at Oceans and just come downstairs to work. I got chatting to this nice Romanian girl and she ended up giving me a good service. Lots of GFE action just what I wanted.
For me Oceans club is a 5 out of 10 simply because of the selection of girls they have. I am not into Romanian girls but I had no choice. The place lacked atmosphere. The girls just sit on the sides and look at you from a distance. And if they do come up to you, the first few words are do you want to come with me for sex? I mean I know you want to earn money but get me in the mood please!
[QUOTE=ZDiff8547;1727512]For me Oceans club is a 5 out of 10 simply because of the selection of girls they have. I am not into Romanian girls but I had no choice.[/QUOTE]Your research should have led you to Magnum as the club of choice close to DUSS. A more diverse lineup there than most other centrally located DUSS clubs.
It was just as well you didn't get in to LR. LR is very Romanian oriented but some very good looking Romanian girls for sure.
[QUOTE=ZDiff8547;1727512]The first girl I went with for the half hour said time's up in 15 minutes. LOL I was like hang on I haven't finished yet. She says, hurry up because time is up. I said we only been in the room for 15 minutes? This girl calls herself Gabriella, short hair and dances on stage. Just be warned.[/QUOTE] Another positive for Oceans. No wonder Remp doesn't provide us with actual session reviews. lol
[QUOTE=ZDiff8547;1727512]
*The place is full of Romanians. I'm sorry if I have offended anyone but if I wanted to bang a Romanian I would have stayed in London. I mean there was no other nationalities. My friend spoke to one of the girls and she said that 95% of the girls in Dusseldorf working in FKK clubs are Romanians! My experience with Romanian girls "most not all" and I have seen plenty is that there is no GFE. They are mostly clock watchers, who don't give you the service you need.[/QUOTE]Hey are you crazy? This board is full of ro-maniacs, who just can't get enough of that sweet genuine passionate transilvanian GFE.
NRW Romanian bulletin:
Oceans 90-95%.
Samya / Mondial 90-95%.
Acapulco / Aca Gold 90-95%.
PlanetHappyGarden 85-90%.
VillaVertigo 85-90%.
Living room 85-90%.
Dolcevita 85-90%.
YinYang 85-90%.
PArksauna 85-90%.
Magnum 80-85%.
Babylon 80-85%.
Goldentime 25-30%.
If you have a problem with Romanians, better stick to London.
[QUOTE=ZDiff8547;1727512]Having only visited Atmos FKK before in Hamburg my friend and I decided to go check out Dusseldorf. We had planned to go Living rooms first as all the reviews had hyped them up well. After landing at Dusseldorf airport my friend called them from the airport and asked the basics and they seemed friendly enough and helpful.
We took the train to this area called Kaarst which was about 45 minutes to an hour journey where Living rooms is located. We knocked on the door and a woman comes out and says "sorry not tonight" Huh? We asked her why? She gave us no reason and just said "not tonight". On the phone they sounded fine, maybe it was because we were not white but brown, olive skinned? Heck I don't know.
So it's around 9 pm now on a Wednesday night and we take the train back to Dusseldorf central. In desperation we ask a cabbie where is the best place to go...[/QUOTE]This is just too funny. It is like walking in the the sea and saying it is wet. When was the last time you had you upstairs examined? Dude, romanians! Have you read this forum before? It is like Stifler in American Pie the Wedding; he walks in to a gay bar and doesn't see the gays.
Cheers mate!
[QUOTE=Dutedrac;1727746]Hey are you crazy? This board is full of ro-maniacs, who just can't get enough of that sweet genuine passionate transilvanian GFE.
NRW romanian bulletin:
If you have a problem with romanians, better stick to London.[/QUOTE]Hello Dutedrac.
You are absolutely correct! If not for the Romanian girls, the FKK system would fall apart. Guys would be paying upwards of 100 Euros per session. If he has a problem with Romanian girls, he should head into Romania. They all left to work in FKKs. LOL.
FiddyCent.
No idea why people keep linking performance or service levels to nationality. Romanians are dominating the PaySex scene in Germany. Thank god. If not prices would be way up and service levels way down.
HB.
[QUOTE=FiddyCent;1727756]Hello Dutedrac.
You are absolutely correct! If not for the Romanian girls, the FKK system would fall apart. Guys would be paying upwards of 100 Euros per session. If he has a problem with Romanian girls, he should head into Romania. They all left to work in FKKs. LOL.
FiddyCent.[/QUOTE]I am really happy that we do have normal writers here in the forum they know the scene very well. Congrats to your replies gentlemen. If we would not have any RO girl in Germany, all FKK clubs in Germany must close. BTW. I will be there tonight and check the % of RO girls. Last weekend I guess they had around 70 % RO girls. And a healthy mixture between Bulgarian, Polish, Russian and German girls.
Cheers RM.
[QUOTE=ZDiff8547;1727512]We had planned to go Living rooms first as all the reviews had hyped them up well. After landing at Dusseldorf airport my friend called them from the airport and asked the basics and they seemed friendly enough and helpful.
We took the train to this area called Kaarst which was about 45 minutes to an hour journey where Living rooms is located. We knocked on the door and a woman comes out and says "sorry not tonight" Huh? We asked her why? She gave us no reason and just said "not tonight". On the phone they sounded fine, maybe it was because we were not white but brown, olive skinned? Heck I don't know.[/QUOTE]ZDiff8547,
Your supposition is actually most probably correct for the rationale for your non entry to Living Room.
I know this has been covered to death in this tread but there's quite a bit of contradictory information, maybe because they have changed their policies, so I just wanted to ask some question;.
1) Are non alcoholic drinks free all day?
2) Is the breakfast buffet free or does it count as your 'free' meal?
3) What time does the breakfast buffet end? (Presumably it starts at opening time).
4) I don't suppose they have any menu's in English, do they? I'm OK with Hahnchen, Rindfleisch, Reis etc but I'm totally fucked with the more a la carte stuff.
Thanks in advance.
CK.
Nice report SDIF5849, pity you went to Oceans twice, since there are much more service oriented clubs in the area (Aca Gold, Babylon, etc). Rumanians are everywhere, but the service will differ very much depending on the club / context they work (in Babylon and Luder Lounge for example, ALL girls offer good DFK (and OWO in LL) before going to the room). If you want only good optics, Magnum and Golden Time and are good choice, but many Rumanian watch lookers there.
BTW, Living Room (and Golden Time and some other clubs) are well known for not letting in "darker skinned" people, and just doing this by saying the club is closed or full or. Whatever reason. Highly illegal, but seems ok in Germany to practice this openly.
Next time go to pne of the smaller clubs. If you like bigger clubs AND good service, better go to FKK Sharks (Darmstadt) or even better Globe (Zurich).
[QUOTE=CitizenKane;1727818]I know this has been covered to death in this tread but there's quite a bit of contradictory information, maybe because they have changed their policies, so I just wanted to ask some question;.
1) Are non alcoholic drinks free all day?
2) Is the breakfast buffet free or does it count as your 'free' meal?
3) What time does the breakfast buffet end? (Presumably it starts at opening time).
4) I don't suppose they have any menu's in English, do they? I'm OK with Hahnchen, Rindfleisch, Reis etc but I'm totally fucked with the more a la carte stuff.
Thanks in advance.
CK.[/QUOTE]1) Non-alcoholic drinks are free all day. Recently, they had a promotion where you could drink bottled beers for free before 1900. I had a 0. 5 l of Erdinger (probably most popular Hefeweizen) and two bottles of 0. 33 l Fuchschen Alt (brewed in Dusseldorf).
2) Breakfast buffet does not count towards free meal. So I paid my 40 EUR happy hour entry. Had breakfast then in the evening redeemed my free meal.
3) Around 2 pm. Breakfast is sparse. Only cold meats, cheese, bread, tomatoes, cucumbers, hard-boiled eggs.
4) Can't remember if there was English. For the free meal, you only have five choices anyway. It wouldn't take long to translate, using the waiter or the free ipad Wi-Fi usage. There are a few other additional menu options that you cannot redeem as part of the free entry. If I recall, these were like fish entrees, probably like grilled Dorade that would cost 20 EUR or more at a normal restaurant.
I've attended twice in the last six weeks or so. Both times arriving at happy hour, first time on a Friday and the next time on a Saturday. Both occasions, it was empty during the day. On the Friday it got packed around 8 pm. On the Saturday, I drank beer during the day, expecting the number of girls to swell for the evening shift, but it never really did so I left by 11 pm.
The 15-minutes of sex for 50 EUR standard seems to be a common complaint from many Ocean's customers on the German Cafe forum. That is consistent with my experience. Many of the girls at Oceans-are "second stringers" who left other NRW clubs--they don't care or don't know how to build regular relationships with clients. Also as a new club, I think Oceans just needs girls. Management doesn't have the leverage to to punish bad-behaving girls. Other clubs like GT and Sharks probably have a waiting list of girls who want to work there.
I love Romanian girls, I'm even going to Romanian this Summer I got some nice contacts.
I was at Oceans last Tuesday, the club was very quite, I would say 20 girls or so and a bit more men, there some pole dances, very nice staff, I flirted with the 2 you bargirls, man they were cute I was in room with Sibel, slim OK looking girls, we had a long chat before the fun, she was ok in the room, but was nothing special for me as I've.
Already fucked 4 days in other club before hitting Oceans, then I was about to leave Ocean at 11 pm, but then I meet Flori, she saved my night I was with her 3,5 hours.
With a long break in between, she was cute and a little shy, we fucked until closing time at 5 am, then I drove back to my hotel and sleep a few hours before hitting Aca. The club has a weird rule, that if you stay with the girls more that 2 H she has to pay 50€ to the reception, so is better to stop and take a break and go to another room again.
The atmosphere is boring as there were not so many people, there were guys in normal clothes, many turks that just hang out and not fucked, WFT, so I had the girls.
Attention as I'm a fucker, LOL.
[QUOTE=McAdonis;1728117]4) Can't remember if there was English. For the free meal, you only have five choices anyway. It wouldn't take long to translate, using the waiter or the free ipad Wi-Fi usage. There are a few other additional menu options that you cannot redeem as part of the free entry...[/QUOTE]The menu is also in English.
[QUOTE=McAdonis;1728118]
The 15-minutes of sex for 50 EUR standard seems to be a common complaint from many Ocean's customers on the German Cafe forum. That is consistent with my experience. [/QUOTE]I don't get how this club is packed on weekend nights then. Is it all the taxi drivers (and maybe tour buses) bringing in tourists who don't really know what a FKK can be like? Are the guys who are complaining on the German forum guys who go once and are done. If that's the case, Oceans will be in trouble.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;1728175]I don't get how this club is packed on weekend nights then. Is it all the taxi drivers (and maybe tour buses) bringing in tourists who don't really know what a FKK can be like? Are the guys who are complaining on the German forum guys who go once and are done. If that's the case, Oceans will be in trouble.[/QUOTE]Rempnobbes is a local and is a regular. It shows that there is something in Oceans for men to return to this club.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;1728175]I don't get how this club is packed on weekend nights then. Is it all the taxi drivers (and maybe tour buses) bringing in tourists who don't really know what a FKK can be like? Are the guys who are complaining on the German forum guys who go once and are done. If that's the case, Oceans will be in trouble.[/QUOTE]Rempnobbes is a local and is a regular. It shows that there is something in Oceans for men to return to this club.
Even Mcadonis has been twice in a short period.
[QUOTE=Dufey;1728186] It shows that there is something in Oceans for men to return to this club.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Dufey;1709642]There are a fair number of local men that come to the club to first and foremost to relax amongst the club's facilities. If the feeling takes them and a girl fits their schema then the man may book a girl for a 50 euro fling.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the explanation, Dufey. I suspect most of these Germans who are regulars fall in to the category of your second quote, enjoying the clubs new facilities. I'd likely be willing to give Oceans a few chances as well if I lived in Germany. Since I don't I seek clubs which give me the best chance to meet the hottest girls who provide me with the best GFE (not PSE) feel. 15 minute sessions don't seem to fit my criteria.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;1728175]I don't get how this club is packed on weekend nights then. Is it all the taxi drivers (and maybe tour buses) bringing in tourists who don't really know what a FKK can be like? Are the guys who are complaining on the German forum guys who go once and are done. If that's the case, Oceans will be in trouble.[/QUOTE]I was at Oceans the last week of March (Friday) and mid-May (Saturday). It was only packed on the Friday night. The Saturday night was actually depressing. I only have two data points to go off of, but they actually regressed in terms of numbers of male customers and the number of WGs. Maybe that first Friday was a fluke--it could have been a Messe or the end of some promotion. We read about how Sirioja wanted to use up his free entry before it expired May 26th.
Ocean's advertises more than FKK Palace does. They have billboards all over the place--seen them as far as Essen area when I attended Salome Herne and Great Palace Castrop-Rauxel several months back. Vans and taxis are emblazoned with their logo as they drive around the city. They all seem to show the owner Bert's face along with four silicone beauties. Bert even has a tour bus, with Oceans advertising on it, that I've seen parked in their lot. So yes, Oceans probably attracts a lot of customers who have no idea what an FKK is. They just saw an Ocean's ad, thinking it was a strip club, then asked the taxi driver to bring them there. There are also groups of local guys who go there to party. So it could be a group of six-seven guys in their 20's celebrating a birthday downing bottles of Vodka at their reserved tables. Not hardcore mongers.
Oceans seems to be playing around with promotions to attract customers though.
[QUOTE=McAdonis;1728118]I've attended twice in the last six weeks or so. Both times arriving at happy hour, first time on a Friday and the next time on a Saturday. Both occasions, it was empty during the day. On the Friday it got packed around 8 pm. On the Saturday, I drank beer during the day, expecting the number of girls to swell for the evening shift, but it never really did so I left by 11 pm.
The 15-minutes of sex for 50 EUR standard seems to be a common complaint from many Ocean's customers on the German Cafe forum. That is consistent with my experience. Many of the girls at Oceans-are "second stringers" who left other NRW clubs--they don't care or don't know how to build regular relationships with clients. Also as a new club, I think Oceans just needs girls. Management doesn't have the leverage to to punish bad-behaving girls. Other clubs like GT and Sharks probably have a waiting list of girls who want to work there.[/QUOTE]Please help me here. The 15- minutes sex for 50 Euro is not standard and common in Oceans. I do not know to whom that happened. Normally he should go direct to the reception and clear out it there. In Oceans, and that is now scince November, 30 minutes for 50 Euro are common and nothing else.
Yesterday I have been there with 4 friends. All German and we went all to the room. But 30 minutes for 50 Euro. Some where one hour for 100 Euro. And that is normal and nothing else.
It was packed after 11 pm and the Fussball DFB finale ended in Berlin. New fantastic shows started and at 1 pm girls where dancing to good music on top of the bar way. Very sexy costumes and weapaned with Ticila bottles to spend some drinks dropping from girls hand direct into your mouth if you wanted and need to to drive like me.
Cheers.
RM.
[QUOTE=Dufey;1728186]Rempnobbes is a local and is a regular. It shows that there is something in Oceans for men to return to this club.
Even Mcadonis has been twice in a short period.[/QUOTE]There is a Czech girl name Justine who works at Oceans. I believe she is the most written about girl that Oceans has ever recruited. I go to see her, but of course hope for the chance to stumble upon a gem.
[QUOTE=Dufey;1728186]
There are a fair number of local men that come to the club to first and foremost to relax amongst the club's facilities. If the feeling takes them and a girl fits their schema then the man may book a girl for a 50 euro fling.
[/QUOTE]I agree with your assessment that many local men go to the clubs to relax, but these local men probably do not go to Oceans to relax. Compared to other NRW clubs, Oceans just ins't that relaxing. Clubs like GT and Living Room have a more friendly, neighborhood pub feeling, where all the Stammgaste know each other, and the Thekefrau greets them all individually. And those clubs allow you to eat and drink as much as you want. So if two NRW pensioners want to meet up for the day, they will probably go to another club.
That said, Oceans has made changes. They at least give you one free meal now, and unlimited beer until 1900. Outdoors they are building that artificial beach. All these add to the "relaxation" factor.
[QUOTE=Maxime;1728065]Nice report SDIF5849, pity you went to Oceans twice, since there are much more service oriented clubs in the area (Aca Gold, Babylon, etc). Rumanians are everywhere, but the service will differ very much depending on the club / context they work (in Babylon and Luder Lounge for example, ALL girls offer good DFK (and OWO in LL) before going to the room). If you want only good optics, Magnum and Golden Time and are good choice, but many Rumanian watch lookers there.
BTW, Living Room (and Golden Time and some other clubs) are well known for not letting in "darker skinned" people, and just doing this by saying the club is closed or full or. Whatever reason. Highly illegal, but seems ok in Germany to practice this openly.
Next time go to pne of the smaller clubs. If you like bigger clubs AND good service, better go to FKK Sharks (Darmstadt) or even better Globe (Zurich).[/QUOTE]If you like large cubs with a (dance) clubbing atmoshpere, and don't care about hunting girls that do not all perform very well, FKK Oceans is the place to be. In that respect it is better then Magnum or GT (there are too many men, in Oceans there are not). So Tourists will like it, but also the many men who like GT but want less men around them. If you are lucky, you find a well performing girl as well (and indeed, 50 euro for 30 minutes is normal also in Oceans).
[QUOTE=McAdonis;1728200]They all seem to show the owner Bert's face along with four silicone beauties. Bert even has a tour bus, with Oceans advertising on it, that I've seen parked in their lot.[/QUOTE]Bert Wollersheim [B]never[/B] was the owner of Oceans (or part of that). He only [B]was[/B] a figurehead.
Meanwhile he is no longer busy for Oceans:
[URL]http://www.bild.de/regional/duesseldorf/duesseldorf/wollersheim-zieht-sich-zurueck-40467072.bild.html[/URL]
He is working now for a brothel in Oberhausen:
[URL]http://www.bild.de/regional/ruhrgebiet/bert-wollersheim/will-bordelle-aufhuebschen-41032544.bild.html[/URL]
[QUOTE]There are also groups of local guys who go there to party. So it could be a group of six-seven guys in their 20's celebrating a birthday downing bottles of Vodka at their reserved tables.[/QUOTE]Oceans has a special offer for birthday guests:
[URL]http://www.ijsberenforum.com/forum/showthread.php?40468-FKK-Oceans-Advertentie&p=430139#post430139[/URL]
[QUOTE]Oceans seems to be playing around with promotions to attract customers though.[/QUOTE]They have a new free entry offer (in a German newspaper):
[URL]http://www.ijsberenforum.com/forum/showthread.php?40468-FKK-Oceans-Advertentie&p=431201#post431201[/URL]
[QUOTE=McAdonis;1728208]There is a Czech girl name Justine who works at Oceans.[/QUOTE]Her name is [B]Justyna[/B], ex-PHG / Freude39.
[QUOTE=Willi69;1728232]Bert Wollersheim [B]never[/B] was the owner of Oceans (or part of that). He only [B]was[/B] a figurehead.
Meanwhile he is no longer busy for Oceans:...[/QUOTE]I hear the owner / owners are Turkish could you confirm this?
Thanks
[QUOTE=Maxime;1728228]If you like large cubs with a (dance) clubbing atmoshpere, and don't care about hunting girls that do not all perform very well, FKK Oceans is the place to be. In that respect it is better then Magnum or GT (there are too many men, in Oceans there are not). So Tourists will like it, but also the many men who like GT but want less men around them. If you are lucky, you find a well performing girl as well (and indeed, 50 euro for 30 minutes is normal also in Oceans).[/QUOTE]What are the costs for admission and what's included? I see a flyer on their website saying 40 euro happy hour entrance and free beer until 7 pm. If you have to pay for beer after 7 pm, what's the cost? If your only getting one free meal with your admission, its sounding like the old Oase concept that didn't work out all that well. I'd rather pay an extra 20 euro's and visit GT or LR and get unlimited beer and more meals for my buck.
[QUOTE=Willi69;1728232]
They have a new free entry offer (in a German newspaper):
[URL]http://www.ijsberenforum.com/forum/showthread.php?40468-FKK-Oceans-Advertentie&p=431201#post431201[/URL][/QUOTE]Hey Willi, do you reckon if I printed it out and cut around it, it would work?
Passing myself off as a "Dusseldofer & Kolner Anwohnern" might be more tricky...
Guess I've got nothing to lose.
[QUOTE=Breadman;1728249]What are the costs for admission and what's included? I see a flyer on their website saying 40 euro happy hour entrance and free beer until 7 pm. If you have to pay for beer after 7 pm, what's the cost? If your only getting one free meal with your admission, its sounding like the old Oase concept that didn't work out all that well. I'd rather pay an extra 20 euro's and visit GT or LR and get unlimited beer and more meals for my buck.[/QUOTE][URL]http://fkk-oceans.de/service/[/URL]#eintritt.
If you scroll down to PREISTABELLE, or hit the translate button and go to PRICE TABLE, there are answers to some of your questions.
[QUOTE=Willi69;1728232]Bert Wollersheim [B]never[/B] was the owner of Oceans (or part of that). He only [B]was[/B] a figurehead.
Meanwhile he is no longer busy for Oceans:
[URL]http://www.bild.de/regional/duesseldorf/duesseldorf/wollersheim-zieht-sich-zurueck-40467072.bild.html[/URL]
He is working now for a brothel in Oberhausen:
[URL]http://www.bild.de/regional/ruhrgebiet/bert-wollersheim/will-bordelle-aufhuebschen-41032544.bild.html[/URL][/QUOTE]He was there on Friday 22 May.
[QUOTE=Maxime;1728228]If you like large cubs with a (dance) clubbing atmoshpere, and don't care about hunting girls that do not all perform very well, FKK Oceans is the place to be. In that respect it is better then Magnum or GT (there are too many men, in Oceans there are not). So Tourists will like it, but also the many men who like GT but want less men around them. If you are lucky, you find a well performing girl as well (and indeed, 50 euro for 30 minutes is normal also in Oceans).[/QUOTE]Had a very very good 1 h room with Emma. Ro on Friday 22 May, she could be a superstar at GT with her look with beautiful eyes and real woman services, I don't recommend pretty blond Irina. Ro, 30 mn were enough but not shortened 15 mn.
[QUOTE=NilleCopenhagen;1728245]I hear the owner / owners are Turkish could you confirm this?[/QUOTE]Turkish and / or Kurdish.
[QUOTE=Maxime;1728228]If you like large cubs with a (dance) clubbing atmoshpere, and don't care about hunting girls that do not all perform very well, FKK Oceans is the place to be. In that respect it is better then Magnum or GT (there are too many men, in Oceans there are not). So Tourists will like it, but also the many men who like GT but want less men around them. If you are lucky, you find a well performing girl as well (and indeed, 50 euro for 30 minutes is normal also in Oceans).[/QUOTE]Impossible to compare oceans and GT, GT is a daytime club and oceans is a night club, any club has a better vibe than GT after 10 pm.
Of course you can get good service in oceans for 30 min / 50 e, you have to make a careful selection, but I would not say situation is much worse than magnum or DV or PHG. Girls in Samya and LR (and GT) offer imo a higher average level of service.
70% Romanian in Oceans is a joke, it's a strong 90% at least in my (weekend) visits, the healthy mixture of poles Russians, Bulgarians, klingonians is only in RempNoobes dreams, unfortunately.
[QUOTE=HessenBub;1727778]No idea why people keep linking performance or service levels to nationality. Romanians are dominating the PaySex scene in Germany. Thank god. If not prices would be way up and service levels way down.
HB.[/QUOTE]Simply because for many mongers, including myself, nationality and service levels are linked, for a lot of reasons.
No idea why other people do not notice, or do not care, but hey good for you. It may be somewhat related to the fact that we do not all have same parameter of rating level of service (my % of great sessions with Romanians is much lower compared to other nationalities) and do not appreciate a mixed nationality environment in the same way.
If someone do not notice a different style of sex between a Cuban and a Thai, or between a Russian and a Romanian girl, seems to me he is missing something.
We are all aware about prices levels and no increase thanks to Romanian and blah blah blah, but there is a big difference between make do with what we have and an ideal situation.
Of course everything is subjective.
Personally I just wish there could be more clubs like GT (and maybe Artemis) with fair pricing and keeping the pubis under / around 50%.
[QUOTE=Dutedrac;1728554]If someone do not notice a different style of sex between a cuban and a thai, or between a russian and a romanian girl, seems to me he is missing something.
[/QUOTE]I never said there is no difference in sex [B]style[/B] for different nationalities. I stated there is no link between performance level and nationality.
HB.
[QUOTE=Dutedrac;1728549]Impossible to compare oceans and GT, GT is a daytime club and oceans is a night club, any club has a better vibe than GT after 10 pm.
Of course you can get good service in oceans for 30 min / 50 e, you have to make a careful selction, but I would not say situation is much worse than magnum or DV or PHG. Girls in Samya and LR (and GT) offer imo a higher average level of service.
70% romanian in Oceans is a joke, it's a strong 90% at least in my (weekend) visits, the healthy mixture of poles russians bulgarians klingonians is only in RempNoobes dreams, unfotunately.[/QUOTE]Hahaha. How often have you been there? You are calculating form outside and was never there? Or may be from 1 or 2 visits? How can you make a realistic average statistics? I can! I was there form the opening day in November until last weekend very frequent and the numbers are like I wrote and that is reality and average over the time including nigh shift and weekends. And not a preciction like you do.
Cheers.
[QUOTE=HessenBub;1727778]No idea why people keep linking performance or service levels to nationality. Romanians are dominating the PaySex scene in Germany. Thank god. If not prices would be way up and service levels way down.
HB.[/QUOTE]In my country the home grown girls are crap. No GFE at all. The foreigners especially asian are much better. In FKK the German girls are below standard on average and tend to be on the overly assertive side lower on GFE. Some exceptions are really good. However on average I greatly prefer Romanians. I just expect a lower success rate for German girls. I also expect latin girls to perform better on average but not every single girl.
I have tried several German girls in FKK but only a very small number got regularly repeated and they were many years ago. The style tends to be different and that clearly affects the performance.
Assessment.
The asian girls and latin girls at Palace a few years back were mostly better than the German girls for GFE.
Just my opinions.
[QUOTE=Dutedrac;1728554]Simply because for many mongers, including myself, nationality and service levels are linked, for a lot of reasons.
If someone do not notice a different style of sex between a cuban and a thai, or between a russian and a romanian girl, seems to me he is missing something.
We are all aware about prices levels and no increase thanks to romanian and blah blah blah, but there is a big difference between make do with what we have and an ideal situation.
Of course everything is subjective.
Personally I just wish there could be more clubs like GT (and maybe Artemis) with fair pricing and keeping the iubis under / around 50%.[/QUOTE]Just your experience, mine is different, I was lucky to meet in FKK some exceptional, sensual, real woman Romanian girls, more sensual than most of German girls and as skillfull as my Russian escorts in Paris, Milano, Torino, but Romanian girls are quite jealous and can change their mind, saying you: when do you come again? And the day after: I hate you, but had also this problem with a German at GT and a Russian escort.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1728610]In my country the home grown girls are crap. No GFE at all. The foreigners especially asian are much better. In FKK the German girls are below standard on average and tend to be on the overly assertive side lower on GFE. Some exceptions are really good. However on average I greatly prefer Romanians. I just expect a lower success rate for German girls. I also expect latin girls to perform better on average but not every single girl.
I have tried several German girls in FKK but only a very small number got regularly repeated and they were many years ago. The style tends to be different and that clearly affects the performance.
Assessment.
The asian girls and latin girls at Palace a few years back were mostly better than the German girls for GFE.
Just my opinions.[/QUOTE]You have no idea, I know some German girls that are really wild in bed, really authentic sex and really enjoy sex. I would say all nationalities have great and wild girls you just need to find them.
I love black pussy, white pussy, yellow pussy, I love pussies LOL.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1728610]In my country the home grown girls are crap. No GFE at all. The foreigners especially asian are much better. In FKK the German girls are below standard on average and tend to be on the overly assertive side lower on GFE. Some exceptions are really good. However on average I greatly prefer Romanians. I just expect a lower success rate for German girls. I also expect latin girls to perform better on average but not every single girl.
I have tried several German girls in FKK but only a very small number got regularly repeated and they were many years ago. The style tends to be different and that clearly affects the performance.
Assessment.
The asian girls and latin girls at Palace a few years back were mostly better than the German girls for GFE.
Just my opinions.[/QUOTE]I made the same experience like you. Sometimes I really wish to have a nice club only with Asian girls. But never found it. Or even one with Latin or else colored women. That would be a market niche in NRW. OK. We are living on a place in Germany where the most FKK clubs are. But could you imagine, if you could say, OK next weekend I will make my tries only with some Asian girls. Now a days it is not easy to find a Asian girl, and what fits into your thoughts, in all the FKK clubs. But just a note.
Cheers.
[QUOTE=RempNobbes;1728693]I made the same experience like you. Sometimes I really wish to have a nice club only with Asian girls. But never found it. Or even one with Latin or else colored women. That would be a market niche in NRW. OK. We are living on a place in Germany where the most FKK clubs are. But could you imagine, if you could say, OK next weekend I will make my tries only with some Asian girls. Now a days it is not easy to find a Asian girl, and what fits into your thoughts, in all the FKK clubs. But just a note.
Cheers.[/QUOTE]There plenty of sauna club in some Asian countries full with Asian girls, I've tried many of them too. Very nice, but I love FKK more.
Carol at globe Zurich rocked my world. Romi at sharks last year shook my very foundations. Charlie at Artemis once chatted to me for 2 hours then asked me to fuck her with my whole hand shaking my very being. The tall German brunette at Mainhatten provided a GFE that warranted an academy nomination or was it real? The list goes on and on. German girls are clean on the exterior but the dirtiest minxes of all. German girls-ummmm looks good to me.
[QUOTE=CitizenKane;1728272]Hey Willi, do you reckon if I printed it out and cut around it, it would work?[/QUOTE]I know they accepted in the past printed coupons but I don't know whether now or not.
[QUOTE]Passing myself off as a "Dusseldofer & Kolner Anwohnern" might be more tricky...[/QUOTE]The coupons are still printed daily in the "Duesselorfer EXPRESS". Just wrote a [B]Dutch[/B] boy that he yesterday visited Oceans without any problems with such a coupon.
[QUOTE=Willi69;1728800]I know they accepted in the past printed coupons but I don't know whether now or not.
The coupons are still printed daily in the "Duesselorfer EXPRESS". Just wrote a [B]Dutch[/B] boy that he yesterday visited Oceans without any problems with such a coupon.[/QUOTE]Well, that sounds a lot more promising than I was initially thinking. I'll keep an eye out for the Duesselorfer Express once I'm on tour just in case.
Thanks Willi.
CK.
[QUOTE=NilleCopenhagen;1728707]There plenty of sauna club in some Asian countries full with Asian girls, I've tried many of them too. Very nice, but I love FKK more.[/QUOTE]Yes. I know. And they are all far away. At least a few hours flight time. I only saw in my FKK live time at least two or three a few days in German clubs. A pity that there are not more now a days.
[QUOTE=RempNobbes;1728693]I made the same experience like you. Sometimes I really wish to have a nice club only with Asian girls. But never found it. Or even one with Latin or else colored women. That would be a market niche in NRW. OK. We are living on a place in Germany where the most FKK clubs are. But could you imagine, if you could say, OK next weekend I will make my tries only with some Asian girls. Now a days it is not easy to find a Asian girl, and what fits into your thoughts, in all the FKK clubs. [/QUOTE]And.
[QUOTE=Dutedrac;1728554]Simply because for many mongers, including myself, nationality and service levels are linked, for a lot of reasons.
No idea why other people do not notice, or do not care, but hey good for you. It may be somewhat related to the fact that we do not all have same parameter of rating level of service (my % of great sessions with romanians is MUCH lower compared to other nationalities) and do not appreciate a mixed nationality environment in the same way.
If someone do not notice a different style of sex between a cuban and a thai, or between a russian and a romanian girl, seems to me he is missing something.
[/QUOTE]Guys, I will not be on my own reading your comments but thinking how very lucky you are to be located close enough to enjoy FKK clubs weekly. I agree with Dutedrac. Nationality does relate to service levels. In my experience Latina girls provide the best service levels. In particular, South Americans are very sensual. Provided you can get them past the desire to get you taking charlie (not my bag at all) and concentrate on the sex, their service is amazing. It is unusual to have a disappointing time with a Brazilian, Cuban, Argentinian or Columbian. They are quite dirty, often want full pleasure out of a session so don't really go in for the silly moaning and groaning to suggest they are enjoying it unless in fact they are. I recall one Columbian girl in Spain telling me she would add 10 minutes more for no extra if I gave her very satisfying DATY! However, I do really like Romanian girls. Asians can be very accommodating. The one thing I find really odd about FKK club experiences is this: in most other parts of the world if you want BBBJ you either pay more for it, or the girl will say no as they consider it to dangerous (STIs). Cheap fuck and suck is available all over the world (usually includes CBJ) for not a lot but it is often then very hurried. In FKK clubs the girls often want to charge more for doing less. What I mean by that is that for example in Artemis last year I asked a girl for a teasing massage and slow teasing HJ after some DFK. So she needed to use her mouth to kiss but not suck, and nothing involving her vagina at all. She wanted 100 e for 30 minutes saying all these things were extra! If I went into a Chinese massage parlour in London Paris or Amsterdam and said instead of teasing HJ (the norm) I wanted a BBBJ and a fuck, they'd throw you out or if wiling would charge far more. I cannot understand why girls in FKK clubs think it is better to do BBBJ and fuck in the 30 minutes when they could get away with doing a lot less and be less intimate, for the same money. Maybe you guys can enlighten me.
But back to the real reason for this post. Don't dream of asian clubs etc when you have an abundance of naked women in lots of clubs near to you costing very little, all legal. Many mongers, me included very much wish our home countries had FKK clubs instead of the hopeless underground offerings (often Asian) which are not a patch on the FKK experience. You guys really are quite lucky. Rempnobles. I notice you have been a regular supporter of Oceans since it opened. I've been to LR only in Dusseldorf but am due there in September. Apart from the silly taxi fare surcharge I've read about, is Oceans the best club to go to?
[QUOTE=PayForIt;1732856] I notice you have been a regular supporter of Oceans since it opened. I've been to LR only in Dusseldorf but am due there in September. Apart from the silly taxi fare surcharge I've read about, is Oceans the best club to go to?[/QUOTE]You could avoid the taxi fee by stopping before the club, You might also try other clubs like GT, Aca and Samya. Aca Gold has is not far from the airport and Oceans. I like GT, LR, Samya and Aca.
[QUOTE=NilleCopenhagen;1733097]You could avoid the taxi fee by stopping before the club, You might also try other clubs like GT, Aca and Samya. Aca Gold has is not far from the airport and Oceans. I like GT, LR, Samya and Aca.[/QUOTE]And at the end everything is a question of his own taste and individuality. During these days, we have over + 28 C, my favorite place is Oceans. In the outside area you can relax and sun and play volleyball in nice white beach sand. And inside you do have a non smoker air conditioned area, also the rooms (Zimmer). And that is not usual in some other clubs around. Cheers RM.
[QUOTE=RempNobbes;1733366]And at the end everything is a question of his own taste and individuality. During these days, we have over + 28 C, my favorite place is Oceans. In the outside area you can relax and sun and play volleyball in nice white beach sand. And inside you do have a non smoker air conditioned area, also the rooms (Zimmer). And that is not usual in some other clubs around. Cheers RM.[/QUOTE]I also like the no-smoking environment and the Zimmer are really nice and the new and spacey locker room, I just wish there were more girls, but the girls I picked last time were great. I'll be back.
[QUOTE=NilleCopenhagen;1733587]I also like the no-smoking environment and the Zimmer are really nice and the new and spacey locker room, I just wish there were more girls, but the girls I picked last time were great. I'll be back.[/QUOTE]My favorite Zimmer is number 6. All around mirrors. You can imagine how awesome it is to see the girl your choice from each side same time, all the curves and movements in one piece. Cheers. RM.
[QUOTE=RempNobbes;1733672]My favorite Zimmer is number 6. All around mirrors. You can imagine how awesome it is to see the girl your choice from each side same time, all the curves and movements in one piece. Cheers. RM.[/QUOTE]Yes that room is cool with the globe on the ceiling, I also like the Bordeaux colored room and the green room. I like to fuck on the couch LOL.
The light is very dimmed in the rooms can you adjust the light up?
[QUOTE=RempNobbes;1733366]And at the end everything is a question of his own taste and individuality. During these days, we have over + 28 C, my favorite place is Oceans. In the outside area you can relax and sun and play volleyball in nice white beach sand. And inside you do have a non smoker air conditioned area, also the rooms (Zimmer). And that is not usual in some other clubs around. Cheers RM.[/QUOTE]Yes sure, relax in the sunny beach with that nice view of wasted industrial plants and warehouses.
So how was the stats regarding healthy mix of poles Russian Germans etc. Etc in your recent visits?
Sorry Noobes, again, Oceans is not a waste of money, but since they are a not yet well established club in a very competitive area, if they want to attract more regular customers at this pricing level your friends in the Geschaeftsleitung must still improve their offer and / or casting, or maybe reduce their fees?
[QUOTE=Dutedrac;1734150]Yes sure, relax in the sunny beach with that nice view of wasted industrial plants and warehouses.
So how was the stats regarding healthy mix of poles russian germans etc. Etc in your recent visits?
Sorry Noobes, again, Oceans is not a waste of money, but since they are a not yet well estabilished club in a very competitive area, if they want to attract more regular customers at this pricing level your friends in the Geschaeftsleitung must still improve their offer and / or casting, or maybe reduce their fees?[/QUOTE]Well, so far all we heard from RempNobbes is advertizing about how great the place looks, how great the food is, how great the sound system is, how great the wifi is, how great the volleyball court is and how great this app for your smartphone is.
Not a single word about the very reason WHY people visit these clubs in the first place: GIRLS!!
Is the line up that bad...?
[QUOTE=HornyHarry;1734157]Is the line up that bad...?[/QUOTE]No it's not. Not really bad, not really good. 90% Romanian. Comparable for looks to DV or Magnum. Worse than LR or GT or Aca.
[QUOTE=HornyHarry;1734157]Well, so far all we heard from RempNobbes is advertizing about how great the place looks, how great the food is, how great the sound system is, how great the wifi is, how great the volleyball court is and how great this app for your smartphone is.
Not a single word about the very reason WHY people visit these clubs in the first place: GIRLS!!
Is the line up that bad...?[/QUOTE]The LU is not big and great, but I did managed to find 3 fairly beautiful girls with nice bodies during the evening / night.
[QUOTE=NilleCopenhagen;1733964]Yes that room is cool with the globe on the ceiling, I also like the Bordeaux colored room and the green room. I like to fuck on the couch LOL.
The light is very dimmed in the rooms can you adjust the light up?[/QUOTE]Yes, I wish sometimes also having more light. That is one reason I like to choose room number 6. And of course, some more action on the couch or even in the cinema, that should be more open to the public, would be very welcome. LOL.
Just for the people in the forum they are interested in: This week is an event in Oceans happening called: The Greek Week! See also the web page.
I hope there are still writers left in the forum are not jealous. LOL.
PM me if you want and around the Frankfurt area Wednesday to Friday. A big trade fair is going on and you will find me in Oase and Sharks as so may be in Palace later evening time.
[QUOTE=RempNobbes;1734402]
PM me if you want and around the Frankfurt area Wednesday to Friday. A big trade fair is going on and you will find me in Oase and Sharks as so may be in Palace later evening time.[/QUOTE]Can you tell me what days the trade fair is going on (and what it is) please? I prefer to avoid FKK clubs when its a stampede of guys making it very much a sellers market as I find the girls are happier to try less hard knowing there is literally a queue outside and they don't need to work at it to keep you in there for longer. Do you mean this Wednesday to Friday or next week and if next week please let me know when it starts and finishes if you know. Thanks.
[QUOTE=PayForIt;1734429]Can you tell me what days the trade fair is going on.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.messefrankfurt.com/frankfurt/en/messe/publications/messekalender.html?nc[/URL]
[QUOTE=PayForIt;1734429]Can you tell me what days the trade fair is going on (and what it is) please? I prefer to avoid FKK clubs when its a stampede of guys making it very much a sellers market as I find the girls are happier to try less hard knowing there is literally a queue outside and they don't need to work at it to keep you in there for longer. Do you mean this Wednesday to Friday or next week and if next week please let me know when it starts and finishes if you know. Thanks.[/QUOTE]The name of the fair is ACHEMA 2015 and is it going from June, 15th to June, 19th. It is one of the biggest automation trade fairs in the world. One week and hotel room prices around 300% and more expensive.
[QUOTE=Samplerr;1734471][URL]https://www.messefrankfurt.com/frankfurt/en/messe/publications/messekalender.html?nc[/URL][/QUOTE]I don't get to Frankfurt till Friday so this probably will only impact on my Friday night. I was thinking of Sharks that night but might now consider World as it is further out.
Thanks for the information you and Samplerr provided.
Lu sucked Fri at 10 pm, could not find anyone attractive. Ex Aca girls there imo not a loss to Aca.
Back from my Frankfurt tour. In front of the Oceans , here is now a big helicopter welcome the guests, on the parking lott, left to the entrance door. Impressive!!
Yesterday, Friday party was mixed up with some good original two man band making Greek live musik and international Messe guests. Also there the barbecue season has started like in some other clubs around. Two nice tents with chairs and desks are completing the outdoor area perfect.
Finally there are some new private corners, in the main room, created with curtains in front. So now you can have action right away and decide, if you want have audience watching you during your sex. Sex is in the air now. Fantastic. Voyeur are welcome. But who is not? LOL
LU was nearly the same like lasts weeks with some new faces. But that is described many times here.
Will see what tonight is up. Cheers RM.
[QUOTE=RempNobbes;1736562]Back from my Frankfurt tour. In front of the Oceans , here is now a big helicopter welcome the guests, on the parking lott, left to the entrance door. Impressive!!
Yesterday, Friday party was mixed up with some good original two man band making Greek live musik and international Messe guests. Also there the barbecue season has started like in some other clubs around. Two nice tents with chairs and desks are completing the outdoor area perfect.
Finally there are some new private corners, in the main room, created with curtains in front. So now you can have action right away and decide, if you want have audience watching you during your sex. Sex is in the air now. Fantastic. Voyeur are welcome. But who is not? LOL
LU was nearly the same like lasts weeks with some new faces. But that is described many times here.
Will see what tonight is up. Cheers RM.[/QUOTE]Finally the Helicopter is unwrapped. I mot sure is a good idea to show the Greek flag, as they are in deep shit financially, I hope this is not a sign that Oceans is in deep shit too, IMO they need more pretty girls to attract more business.
[QUOTE=NilleCopenhagen;1736652]Finally the Helicopter is unwrapped. [/QUOTE]Helicopter is OK, but I am more interested in Jacuzzi that should be opened in 2015. Is Jacuzzi already there?
[QUOTE=Jymondor;1737032]Helicopter is OK, but I am more interested in Jacuzzi that should be opened in 2015. Is Jacuzzi already there?[/QUOTE]I've haven seen any Jacuzzi on last visit.
[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1734635]Lu sucked Fri at 10 pm, could not find anyone attractive. Ex Aca girls there imo not a loss to Aca.[/QUOTE]Ah come on. They have a helicopter now! WTF.
HB.
Maybe they will use the helicopter to scout out some hot streetwalkers in other countries, swoop in, and fly them to Oceans.
[QUOTE=HessenBub;1737055]Ah come on. They have a helicopter now! WTF.
HB.[/QUOTE]An aircraft taking up space in the car park will always be my number one priority when it comes to club selection.
[QUOTE=CitizenKane;1737072]An aircraft taking up space in the car park will always be my number one priority when it comes to club selection.[/QUOTE]Well done CK. Literally LOL on this comment. To be fair. The girls of Oceans say that this is the best chopper they've ever seen! It stays in place, stays hard, doesn't bend, doesn't leek, and the bell end is like glass! LOL.
[QUOTE=HessenBub;1737055]Ah come on. They have a helicopter now! WTF.
HB.[/QUOTE]Oh yeah, and there was an helicopter in the front. Unfortunately, the helicopter wasn't my type. The included food I chose was ok. They have two types of food in the menu, the included food in the entry, and the ones not included. Perhaps the not included are better quality? I chose what was included, and I've had better at other clubs. It was salad with chicken goulash of some sort with white rice. Typical dish. Also, there is the option of opting for the priced menu, and playing reduced if ordering from that menu instead of the included menu. The atmosphere is pretty relaxed I give it that. Girls are sitting at the bar(which is on one side, and it's not situated in the middle and rounded like some clubs), and two levels(upper and lower) of couches on the opposite side facing the bar. So, it's a setup for couch time if the girl is up for it although I saw most girls at the bar sitting. The whole layout is like a wide corridor with two sections, the large lounge-bar(good size for those claustrophobic) area with kino entry between the lounge and the sauna area. Pretty wide open lounge area, probably one of the largest ones I've been to next to Sharks. The outside area has couches, and some chairs, and there is a small tent on the right of the back exit if it rains or what else. People smoke out there.
The magnetic or proximity key system is like GT or LR, but the key is not numbered for specific locker, and you choose an open one and have to remember which one you chose.
The food was the best part of my visit.
[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1737778]The magnetic or proximity key system is like GT or LR, but the key is not numbered for specific locker, and you choose an open one and have to remember which one you chose.[/QUOTE]I thought that as well so chose a memorable number. I saw later a gizmo on the wall to the right of the mirror / hairdryer area which I believe if you place your key close to it it indicates the locker number. I didn't try it though.
I visited this club on June 25 2015. I am a very experienced monger and had a nasty experience at this club. First of all the club is empty most days and most nights. The women are not attractive. Secondly out of desperation I picked a girl who told me she wanted to eat first, after one hour of sitting with her while she ate she switched me at the very last second for an ugly 50 year old bald German guy. All she had to do was tell me she was going to go with him and I would have left and started downing beers. (the women were really not attractive, and depressing environment. This was a low class move, rude, and shows this club is mismanaged and will be out of business in 6 months or less. I did complain to the manager who apologized and gave me a free entry next time as if I will ever go back to this dump.
[QUOTE=Lotus340;1738815]I visited this club on June 25 2015. I am a very experienced monger and had a nasty experience at this club. First of all the club is empty most days and most nights. The women are not attractive. Secondly out of desperation I picked a girl who told me she wanted to eat first, after one hour of sitting with her while she ate she switched me at the very last second for an ugly 50 year old bald German guy. All she had to do was tell me she was going to go with him and I would have left and started downing beers. (the women were really not attractive, and depressing environment. This was a low class move, rude, and shows this club is mismanaged and will be out of business in 6 months or less. I did complain to the manager who apologized and gave me a free entry next time as if I will ever go back to this dump.[/QUOTE]Bad luck for you, I visited on Saturday evening 23 of May and found a pretty face with beautiful eyes, chestnuts, beautiful body even tattoo on belly, Emma. Ro and what a good surprise in room for 1 h with a volcano girl during DATY and after, blond Irina. Ro could not compete and I don't recommend out of optifuck.
[QUOTE=Lotus340;1738815]I visited this club on June 25 2015. I am a very experienced monger and had a nasty experience at this club. First of all the club is empty most days and most nights. The women are not attractive. Secondly out of desperation I picked a girl who told me she wanted to eat first, after one hour of sitting with her while she ate she switched me at the very last second for an ugly 50 year old bald German guy. All she had to do was tell me she was going to go with him and I would have left and started downing beers. (the women were really not attractive, and depressing environment. This was a low class move, rude, and shows this club is mismanaged and will be out of business in 6 months or less. I did complain to the manager who apologized and gave me a free entry next time as if I will ever go back to this dump.[/QUOTE]Yeah, but on the plus side, they do have a helicopter in the car park.
To whom it concerns and / or is from interest. Now comment needed. Weather forcast for Germany / Duesseldorf area is going to be sunshine and temperatures around 30 C next week. Barbecue is open. Freier Verkehr has a new offer for Oceans, Mega Happy Hour for one Person now, instead of two. 20 Euro entrance fee between 11 am and 2 pm. See also the pictures. The text is also available in other languages. You get a code and show it at the reception. Only use one time per person!
Enjoy and cheers from RM.
Another deal. Free entrance via Facebook:
[URL]http://www.eisbaerenforum.com/forum/showthread.php?272-Berichte-zum-FKK-Oceans-D%C3%BCsseldorf-Rath&p=1334#post1334[/URL]
[QUOTE=Willi69;1739552]Another deal. Free entrance via Facebook:
[URL]http://www.eisbaerenforum.com/forum/showthread.php?272-Berichte-zum-FKK-Oceans-D%C3%BCsseldorf-Rath&p=1334#post1334[/URL][/QUOTE]This will work for those ho has fake FB account. I don't think I want all my friends knowing that I like FKK club.
[QUOTE=Jymondor;1739627]This will work for those ho has fake FB account. I don't think I want all my friends knowing that I like FKK club.[/QUOTE]Within one minute you acn like Oceans, enter for free and dislike it.
Or you add a fake account, like me.
[QUOTE=Lotus340;1738815]I visited this club on June 25 2015. I am a very experienced monger and had a nasty experience at this club. First of all the club is empty most days and most nights. The women are not attractive. Secondly out of desperation I picked a girl who told me she wanted to eat first, after one hour of sitting with her while she ate she switched me at the very last second for an ugly 50 year old bald German guy. All she had to do was tell me she was going to go with him and I would have left and started downing beers. (the women were really not attractive, and depressing environment. This was a low class move, rude, and shows this club is mismanaged and will be out of business in 6 months or less. I did complain to the manager who apologized and gave me a free entry next time as if I will ever go back to this dump.[/QUOTE]You must be a hansom guy to be calling somebody ugly. The WGs are not chasing after the best looking guys in a pay for sex club. They got to have higher threshold of tolerance to things, and at minimum, be clean, and carry yourself decently. They are there for work so, good and easy money would be the draw for most of them. Things happens for various reasons.
What's Dusseldorf airport like? Looks like its close enough to the club for a quick visit if changing flights for 4+ hours. How long does it take to get through security? If I have to wait 2 hours rather than 10 minutes to get through security when going back to the airport then a quick visit wouldn't really be on the cards.
[QUOTE=Trajdor;1740488]What's Dusseldorf airport like? Looks like its close enough to the club for a quick visit if changing flights for 4+ hours. How long does it take to get through security? If I have to wait 2 hours rather than 10 minutes to get through security when going back to the airport then a quick visit wouldn't really be on the cards.[/QUOTE]Security check is normally 10 minutes, depending on the vacation summer travel it could be 20 minutes. Call the shuttle service from Oceans and you will be there within another 10 minutes. The same back. Cheers RM and enjoy the stay. PM if you want.
[QUOTE=RempNobbes;1740795]Security check is normally 10 minutes, depending on the vacation summer travel it could be 20 minutes. Call the shuttle service from Oceans and you will be there within another 10 minutes. The same back. Cheers RM and enjoy the stay. PM if you want.[/QUOTE]During the summer, if departing Schengen, I would add another 10 minutes of top of that (30-40 minutes) total. Was at DUS on Sunday 0830 in Pier see. Only two security lines open. Priority lane closed. 2 border police processing non EU passports and only one officer processing EU passports. As a result even the EU passport lane had a queue. EasyGates were not operational. I'm surprised they are not staffing security / passport appropriately given the increased summer travel.
Also noticed a closed Priority lane in Pier be on a Sunday morning around 0900 three months ago.
Hey guys,
I'm on few hours transfer flight through the Dusseldorf airport, so have time to get in the city. I found out the closest FKK to the airport is Oceans. So I have few questions.
1. Is it possible to get there from the airport with the public transport? If no, how much it costs to get on taxi?
2. Is it ok if I come with my cabin size luggage? Does the club have a locker where I can keep it? Or maybe it's better to leave it in a storage room in the airport?
[QUOTE=OblikoMoralee;1750059]Hey guys,
I'm on few hours transfer flight through the Dusseldorf airport, so have time to get in the city. I found out the closest FKK to the airport is Oceans. So I have few questions.
1. Is it possible to get there from the airport with the public transport? If no, how much it costs to get on taxi?
2. Is it ok if I come with my cabin size luggage? Does the club have a locker where I can keep it? Or maybe it's better to leave it in a storage room in the airport?[/QUOTE]Call the club for the shuttle service as a previously posted if you can. If not, I don't know about public transport, but don't go there by taxi unless you want to pay an extra 20-30 Euro admission. Store the luggage at the airport and take a taxi to the nearby hotel (B & be, I think) and walk to the club from there.
Shuttle service is free of charge? Do it service only from airport or both from and to airport? What is the 25 euros taxi admission and why should I pay it if I ask for sex club rather than nearby hotel?
[QUOTE=OblikoMoralee;1750353]Shuttle service is free of charge? Do it service only from airport or both from and to airport? What is the 25 euros taxi admission and why should I pay it if I ask for sex club rather than nearby hotel?[/QUOTE]I don't know anything about the shuttle service since I didn't know they had one until a previous post mentioned it. Call the club and get the info. The club pays a commission to the taxi driver so they pass it along through the increased entrance fee.
[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;1750497]I don't know anything about the shuttle service since I didn't know they had one until a previous post mentioned it. Call the club and get the info. The club pays a commission to the taxi driver so they pass it along through the increased entrance fee.[/QUOTE]As far as I know they do have a shuttle service both ways, from and back to the airport. See also the pics.
Please let us know if that worked for you.
If you arrive via free shuttle do you pay the normal 65 euro or is it considered a taxi and you are charged 95 euro?
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;1750595]If you arrive via free shuttle do you pay the normal 65 euro or is it considered a taxi and you are charged 95 euro?[/QUOTE]You have to pay the normal entrance fee of 65 Euro. No more.
Ok, free shuttle sounds good, but why is there a taxi commission? It makes no sense whatsoever. You pay the taxi driver what they are due, but raising the entry if you come in on a taxi other than the shuttle is not kosher. All the 30 goes to the driver? If the driver is being paid from the club the additional fees, you are paying the driver basically. You are paying additional fees for no valid reason. Only thing I can think of is encouraging the taxi drivers to bring guest into the club. If it's some guy not aware of normal entry without the commission, wouldn't know, but for somebody that knows the normal entry, it's BS surprise.
For the men who know about this taxi surcharge, it is easy to avoid as mentioned earlier. Just have the taxi driver drop you off somewhere close by.
Or, have the taxi driver drop you off at the club and then just walk off down the street (for 5 minutes or so) until the taxi driver gives up and leaves. When they ask you where you're going, you just say, "Oh, my tummy isn't feeling well. I decided not to go to club. I go for long walk instead. Bye bye!
Then, when taxi driver is gone, you go back to club and there is no taxi driver for the club to pay off.
But who the hell wants to go to Oceans anyways? I haven't seen any substantiated positive reports about this club yet. Indeed, most reports have been negative.
[QUOTE=UltraHappy;1750687]For the men who know about this taxi surcharge, it is easy to avoid as mentioned earlier. Just have the taxi driver drop you off somewhere close by.
Or, have the taxi driver drop you off at the club and then just walk off down the street (for 5 minutes or so) until the taxi driver gives up and leaves. When they ask you where you're going, you just say, "Oh, my tummy isn't feeling well. I decided not to go to club. I go for long walk instead. Bye bye!
Then, when taxi driver is gone, you go back to club and there is no taxi driver for the club to pay off.
But who the hell wants to go to Oceans anyways? I haven't seen any substantiated positive reports about this club yet. Indeed, most reports have been negative.[/QUOTE]Just have cab drop you off at the B&B hotel nearby. LOL.
FKK Oceans is mainly focussed on international tourists, not on experienced mongers. The club is beautiful in interior, facilities, etc, and business people don't care about entrance fee of 50,65 or 95 euro. So men who pay for taxis are considered to don't care about the extra surcharge.
Locals and experienced mongers pay much less, since there are always several discounts available (like Euro 40 euro for 2 at Happy Hour, free entrance when using the FV app or like their facebook page or when having free ticket from one of the internet fora or local newspapers, etc, etc.
The men who pay 95 euro entrance fee are probably also spending 200 euro on drinks, etc and initially this was the target group of this club. Since it is empty most of time (even on Friday and Saturday evening) the club is now trying to attract more men with these discounts.
Line up of girls is optically ok (like you expect in this kind of club) but very unrealiable on the service level front. DFK and OWO are not standard, but if you are an experienced monger you will find enough girls who are offering this. Public DFK (and more) is prohibited, which is always a good service selection mechanism.
People who like clubs like GT and Magnum will like Oceans even more, especially because it lacks the overcrowded situation as in Gay Time and has a comparable line up in looks and (unreliable) service.
Their business plan has to be one of the worst business plans, ever! They are hunting for naïve, uninformed, well to do, international travelers? There aren't many "Dumb ass" travelers venturing into these places that haven't read at least the destination's website. This newbie has to be 100% focused on their club (As in having blinders on) to spend away and not have any other spots or options to visit. If that's the case, no wonder the place is always EMPTY. The owner better be loaded and willing to absorb decades of lo $$es because that's all that is coming his way for a long, long, time.
[QUOTE=Maxime;1750788]FKK Oceans is mainly focussed on international tourists, not on experienced mongers. The club is beautiful in interior, facilities, etc, and business people don't care about entrance fee of 50,65 or 95 euro. So men who pay for taxis are considered to don't care about the extra surcharge.
Locals and experienced mongers pay much less, since there are always several discounts available (like Euro 40 euro for 2 at Happy Hour, free entrance when using the FV app or like their facebook page or when having free ticket from one of the internet fora or local newspapers, etc, etc.
The men who pay 95 euro entrance fee are probably also spending 200 euro on drinks, etc and initially this was the target group of this club. Since it is empty most of time (even on Friday and Saturday evening) the club is now trying to attract more men with these discounts.
Line up of girls is optically ok (like you expect in this kind of club) but very unrealiable on the service level front. DFK and OWO are not standard, but if you are an experienced monger you will find enough girls who are offering this. Public DFK (and more) is prohibited, which is always a good service selection mechanism.
People who like clubs like GT and Magnum will like Oceans even more, especially because it lacks the overcrowded situation as in Gay Time and has a comparable line up in looks and (unreliable) service.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Voyajer1;1750887]Their business plan has to be one of the worst business plans, ever! They are hunting for nave, uninformed, well to do, international travelers? There aren't many "Dumb ass" travelers.[/QUOTE]First of all a lot of red light "managers" are not really having a clue about business plans. They all think THEIR club is the best forgetting it's just 10% about the club and 90% about girls and service.
And I'm afraid there's plenty of dumb ass travelers around, at least my impression when visiting clubs with a high percentage of tourists.
HB.
[QUOTE=Voyajer1;1750887]Their business plan has to be one of the worst business plans, ever! They are hunting for nave, uninformed, well to do, international travelers? There aren't many "Dumb ass" travelers venturing into these places that haven't read at least the destination's website. This newbie has to be 100% focused on their club (As in having blinders on) to spend away and not have any other spots or options to visit. If that's the case, no wonder the place is always EMPTY. The owner better be loaded and willing to absorb decades of lo $$es because that's all that is coming his way for a long, long, time.[/QUOTE]Probably a very small percentage than what they are hoping for. I didn't see any bottles servious about on a Friday night. Same owner as Artemis. Artemis has the obvious advantage in Berlin, whereas Oceans has competition nearby. If a tourist has some knowledge of the scene in the area, another club is around further down.
The difference from most clubs in the region is the sizing or open-ness of the facilities. Others are smaller scaled. When Messe happens you see tourists at Magnum and DV too. I'm sure if you are aware of one, you'd probably heard some others too.
[QUOTE=Maxime;1750788] the FV app [/QUOTE]What's the fv app's full name?
[QUOTE=Breadman;1751052]What's the fv app's full name?[/QUOTE]See the right upper corner on [URL]http://www.freierverkehr.com[/URL] .
[QUOTE=Maxime;1750788]FKK Oceans is mainly focussed on international tourists, not on experienced mongers. The club is beautiful in interior, facilities, etc, and business people don't care about entrance fee of 50,65 or 95 euro. So men who pay for taxis are considered to don't care about the extra surcharge.
Locals and experienced mongers pay much less, since there are always several discounts available (like Euro 40 euro for 2 at Happy Hour, free entrance when using the FV app or like their facebook page or when having free ticket from one of the internet fora or local newspapers, etc, etc.
The men who pay 95 euro entrance fee are probably also spending 200 euro on drinks, etc and initially this was the target group of this club. Since it is empty most of time (even on Friday and Saturday evening) the club is now trying to attract more men with these discounts..[/QUOTE]I was there a month or so ago and got a free shuttle to the club from city centre and then a free shuttle to airport. I got there around 1 pm and paid I think 45 euros. The women are the same as LR, but in DV a few were slightly better but I was there on the night time. I now know the basics and will be back in a few weeks, what I don't know is the rules of each club.
Magnum I won't go again as too many Kurdish, or Turkish groping and kissing all women and then just going for food, put me right off.
LR too small and full of smoke, I did though get to try in the keno before buying. (what happens if you have a grope and a quick BJ and then say no)? I don't think I would say no as don't need the hassle but if its shit why pay.
DV. I enjoyed the atmosphere and like the idea of the swimming pool. Also here I got to play with a couple of girls for 20 minutes before going to the room and I got a wank and lap dance before the room.
Oceans. I was there Tuesday in the day. Quite quiet and around 15 girls on (and some big big girls). This seems to be a club where you just talk to the girls before and you have to make a decision on just a chat.
I would like advice on how to improve my chances to get better service in the room. I saw 9 girls on my trip and the service was all very similar. Nearly all girls were 6. 5 out of 10 looking, the better looking girls generally had a poor body and visa versa, the 9 out of 10 in looks gave a 4 in service. The other girls seemed to follow a script like they were all trained by the same person. Same condom type, wipe the cock, then similar routine then some won't give a massage, some don't lick balls, some try to rush you. How do you give yourself a better chance of a great service, I saw 9 girls and wouldn't rush back to see any. I am flexible on the days so maybe Friday and Saturday is much better? But 1 in 1 out is not for me.
[QUOTE=StrawJam;1751437]I was there a month or so ago and got a free shuttle to the club from city centre and then a free shuttle to airport. I got there around 1 pm and paid I think 45 euros. The women are the same as LR, but in DV a few were slightly better but I was there on the night time. I now know the basics and will be back in a few weeks, what I don't know is the rules of each club.
Magnum I won't go again as too many Kurdish, or Turkish groping and kissing all women and then just going for food, put me right off.
LR too small and full of smoke, I did though get to try in the keno before buying. (what happens if you have a grope and a quick BJ and then say no)? I don't think I would say no as don't need the hassle but if its shit why pay.
DV. I enjoyed the atmosphere and like the idea of the swimming pool. Also here I got to play with a couple of girls for 20 minutes before going to the room and I got a wank and lap dance before the room.
Oceans. I was there Tuesday in the day. Quite quiet and around 15 girls on (and some big big girls). This seems to be a club where you just talk to the girls before and you have to make a decision on just a chat.
I would like advice on how to improve my chances to get better service in the room. I saw 9 girls on my trip and the service was all very similar. Nearly all girls were 6. 5 out of 10 looking, the better looking girls generally had a poor body and visa versa, the 9 out of 10 in looks gave a 4 in service. The other girls seemed to follow a script like they were all trained by the same person. Same condom type, wipe the cock, then similar routine then some won't give a massage, some don't lick balls, some try to rush you. How do you give yourself a better chance of a great service, I saw 9 girls and wouldn't rush back to see any. I am flexible on the days so maybe Friday and Saturday is much better? But 1 in 1 out is not for me.[/QUOTE]There are different atmospheres, but there really is no difference in rules with the girls of different clubs besides no approach which Aca is an example of that. Magnum probably has more young Turks showing up late at night like Aca. So, different clientele at different clubs.
Although depends on the girl, the difference could be girls willing to makeout pre-zimmer. This depends on the club, and the girl as some girls will say, they don't kiss outside the room. In the Kino, it's more likely to happen than on the lounge at some clubs.
BJ is what is included in a standard paid session. So if you let the girl give you a BJ, the girl will assume you committed for a paid session. If you grope a girl for a long time, girl will think you are interested in her, and likely take her. If you bring this hope up, and you don't, how do you expect the girl to take it? Not lightly. You can talk to the girl, and get a feel of her, and if there is an attraction, and you can interact with her physically, and see how she responds. If you get a good sense, it'll raise your chances.
As far as increasing the chances of a great session. There really is no secret trick. Some punters look at reports, and make assumptions on the expected service level of the girls based on that. Not guaranteed as not everybody's idea of a good session is the same. Interactions with a girl could differ, and also depends on what type of interactions punter prefers. If you want to be more technical, read reports on various forums to see who is reported well consitantly. The problem with this is that, you will still have to meet the girl to see if she is your type. And you got to look for her, and etc, but if you've seen the girl already and know the name, it works out well.
Some clubs are higher reputation of girls providing consistently good services. Like LR, or service clubs. DV is not really regarded as a club with girls that provide good services.
There are other factors too when it comes to services like the mood of girl which could change, and a girl could be in a horny mood, and you may be lucky. Factors like busy night, a girl maybe servicing many men, and getting a quality session would probably reduce. Various factors go into it. Cleanliness is one factor, but most I'm sure will clean, and how you are perceived. You maybe a decent dude, but she may perceive you differently. Of course this changes once she gets to know you.
A girl being a hottie or a stunner doesn't mean session will be crap. Sure there are some like that, but not all. There are outliers that come off cold, but could be surprisingly good sessions.
[QUOTE=StrawJam;1751437]
Magnum I won't go again as too many Kurdish, or Turkish groping and kissing all women and then just going for food, put me right off.[/QUOTE]Then don't ever consider Mondial. Way worse girl abuse by hairy backed Turkish men. It is a huge turn off. On the bright side for us, non-Turkish men who know how to treat women properly have a harem of girls with them.
[QUOTE=StrawJam;1751437]
LR too small and full of smoke, I did though get to try in the keno before buying. (what happens if you have a grope and a quick BJ and then say no)? I don't think I would say no as don't need the hassle but if its shit why pay.[/QUOTE]You would be blackballed by every girl who sees the inevitable argument between you and the girl who gave you a free BJ in the kino.
[QUOTE=StrawJam;1751437]
I would like advice on how to improve my chances to get better service in the room. [/QUOTE]Have a positive attitude.
Make girls feel relaxed and make them laugh.
Make the girls feel like they're a real person and not a piece of meat.
Don't come off as a sourpuss or a cheapskate.
One thing that works for me but may not with others. Go for the bitchiest looking German girl who looks like she's going to murder someone. She can turn out to be the sweetest girl ever. lol
[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1751554]There are different atmospheres, but there really is no difference in rules with the girls of different clubs besides no approach which Aca is an example of that. Magnum probably has more young Turks showing up late at night like Aca. So, different clientele at different clubs.
Although depends on the girl, the difference could be girls willing to makeout pre-zimmer. This depends on the club, and the girl as some girls will say, they don't kiss outside the room. In the Kino, it's more likely to happen than on the lounge at some clubs.
BJ is what is included in a standard paid session. So if you let the girl give you a BJ, the girl will assume you committed for a paid session. If you grope a girl for a long time, girl will think you are interested in her, and likely take her. If you bring this hope up, and you don't, how do you expect the girl to take it? Not lightly. You can talk to the girl, and get a feel of her, and if there is an attraction, and you can interact with her physically, and see how she responds. If you get a good sense, it'll raise your chances.
As far as increasing the chances of a great session. There really is no secret trick. Some punters look at reports, and make assumptions on the expected service level of the girls based on that. Not guaranteed as not everybody's idea of a good session is the same. Interactions with a girl could differ, and also depends on what type of interactions punter prefers. If you want to be more technical, read reports on various forums to see who is reported well consitantly. The problem with this is that, you will still have to meet the girl to see if she is your type. And you got to look for her, and etc, but if you've seen the girl already and know the name, it works out well..[/QUOTE]I didn't have any bad sessions but no great sessions either. I think what you say is common sense and there are many factors. I will just enjoy trying to find some superstars.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;1751615]Then don't ever consider Mondial. Way worse girl abuse by hairy backed Turkish men. It is a huge turn off. On the bright side for us, non-Turkish men who know how to treat women properly have a harem of girls with them.
You would be blackballed by every girl who sees the inevitable argument between you and the girl who gave you a free BJ in the kino.
Have a positive attitude.
Make girls feel relaxed and make them laugh.
Make the girls feel like they're a real person and not a piece of meat.
Don't come off as a sourpuss or a cheapskate.
One thing that works for me but may not with others. Go for the bitchiest looking German girl. She can turn out to be the sweetest girl ever. lol[/QUOTE]I always value your advice, I met a ***** of a girl in Magnum she was a tall blonde from Croatia but has lived in Germany for a long time. She really loved herself and wouldn't even sit down for a bit of banter. I gave her a wide berth. These other type of clubs that are fixed price, how do you find them? Are the girls generally not as good looking and what about the service. I am not sure its my scene but I think I should maybe try it once.
[QUOTE=StrawJam;1751437]I was there a month or so ago and got a free shuttle to the club from city centre and then a free shuttle to airport. I got there around 1 pm and paid I think 45 euros. The women are the same as LR, but in DV a few were slightly better but I was there on the night time. I now know the basics and will be back in a few weeks, what I don't know is the rules of each club.
Magnum I won't go again as too many Kurdish, or Turkish groping and kissing all women and then just going for food, put me right off.
LR too small and full of smoke, I did though get to try in the keno before buying. (what happens if you have a grope and a quick BJ and then say no)? I don't think I would say no as don't need the hassle but if its shit why pay.
DV. I enjoyed the atmosphere and like the idea of the swimming pool. Also here I got to play with a couple of girls for 20 minutes before going to the room and I got a wank and lap dance before the room.
Oceans. I was there Tuesday in the day. Quite quiet and around 15 girls on (and some big big girls). This seems to be a club where you just talk to the girls before and you have to make a decision on just a chat..[/QUOTE]At LR you can find real GFE with good services pretty girls: Claudia, Edita. Svk, Vicky.
At Oceans, I had a very good surprise with pretty face, slim Emma. Ro, she came from Harem Padenborn.
At GT, you can meet real women like blond Lena. Lat, Trinity. Est, long hair Ariana. Ro seem to be attractive for look and services according to a friend.
Treat girls like women, not just a hole to fuck, and some will behave like women, when you are attracted by a girl, better to stay 1 hour to take time to foreplay with her, I prefer to have only 2 1 hour room rather than many rabbit rooms.
[QUOTE=StrawJam;1751616]I didn't have any bad sessions but no great sessions either.... I will just enjoy trying to find some superstars.[/QUOTE]Can you clarify what your expectations of a great session are? Maybe you will need to consider some of the service clubs that Maxine prefers.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;1752400]Can you clarify what your expectations of a great session are? Maybe you will need to consider some of the service clubs that Maxine prefers.[/QUOTE]Probably similar to yours, I suspect. Banter and the lead up I like. I think I will learn the lessons from my first trip. I think I was too eager the first time and I will let the girls come to me more, and just take my time. It was all a bit of a blurr, trying to fit it all in.
Like most other people I seek a 23 year old an 8 out of 10 in looks (size 8-10 with a nice rack) with great banter, who likes my patter, is a quality fuck, who gives great head. Maybe I ask too much. But I have found them before and been out with a few like this, so not impossible. These service clubs, where is the best one in the Dusseldorf area? I think if I am half drunk I could enjoy an evening there. Basically to tick it of the list.
I was in oceans a few months ago.
I really enjoyed it. Everything was clean and professional. There weren't many choices available on Sunday afternoon, but things picked up later on. Can't wait to go back again.
[QUOTE=StrawJam;1752420]These service clubs, where is the best one in the Dusseldorf area? [/QUOTE]Likey Babylon in Elsdorf. Some AO clubs may be better service depending what your definition of service is. For the bigger mainstream clubs best service is likely Sixsens and LR.
They are offering a month free entry for 200€. They must be desperate.
HB.
[QUOTE=HessenBub;1763665]They are offering a month free entry for 200.[/QUOTE]200 is [B]not[/B] free.
For nothing or for only 200 euro in any case I wouldn't call this a smart special offer.
[QUOTE=Willi69;1763744]200 is [B]not[/B] free.[/QUOTE]Great comment.
HB.
[QUOTE=HessenBub;1763665]They are offering a month free entry for 200. They must be desperate.
HB.[/QUOTE]If I lived closer, I would probably participate in this promotion-and if it included one free ala carte entree and free beer before 7 pm. I'd be eating dinner there every night.
I haven't tried other dishes, but I tried the one with chicken goulash with rice and some plain salad. Nothing special for me. A plain dish IMO. The waitress told me I can pay more for other dishes not on the included entry menu, but didn't feel like shelling out extra for it.
Have to go to Dusseldorf on Wednesday for a 1 hour meeting at 9 am, not flying back till 8 pm, heading to Oceans to check it out for an afternoon. Are the girls not naked like a normal FKK club? Shame as I Like ot look and enjoy the views to get me going!
Anyone been there on an afternoon, I assume it will be quiet. Or should I head over to LR, just never tried Oceans and am Curios.
Cheers
[QUOTE=Monger999;1764016]Are the girls not naked like a normal FKK club?[/QUOTE]Oceans is, in spite of the name, a saunaclub, [B]not[/B] an FKK-club.
[QUOTE=Willi69;1764254]Oceans is, in spite of the name, a saunaclub, [B]not[/B] an FKK-club.[/QUOTE]It's also nowhere near the coast. Total misnomer really.
[QUOTE=HessenBub;1763665]They are offering a month free entry for 200. They must be desperate.
HB.[/QUOTE]If Jaqueline. De, white skin, big tits, red hair, a little bit Kirsten Dunst look like for face, speaking a little bit of french, ex Aca and ex Alexandra at DV, stay at Oceans, good for casting and at Oceans she can make 50 for 30 minutes instead of 40 at Aca, but will she stay? She used to start about 4 pm.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;1757267]Likey Babylon in Elsdorf. Some AO clubs may be better service depending what your definition of service is. For the bigger mainstream clubs best service is likely Sixsens and LR.[/QUOTE]Hi Banana Boi, Thanks for your advice, which FKK clubs in Dusseldorf have most girls in terms of number? Thank you for your advice.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;1765033]If Jaqueline. De, white skin, big tits, red hair, a little bit Kirsten Dunst look like for face, speaking a little bit of french, ex Aca and ex Alexandra at DV, stay at Oceans, good for casting and at Oceans she can make 50 for 30 minutes instead of 40 at Aca, but will she stay? She used to start about 4 pm.[/QUOTE]I sessioned with her on Tue 18th. Before I had with her at least three sessions in ACA. As I remember in ACA she was quiet diligent girls. I haven't seen her for more than one year and met in Ocean few days ago.
It was a warm meeting. She recognized me. I noted some changes. Now she is talking non-stop. So I couldn't even squeeze a word. BBBJ skills improved. DIGITS not allowed anymore. Actually she asked do not touch pussy even from outside since she has irritation after shaving. During DATY she always repeat "slowly please". This is very new in her behaviour. DFK however is still passionate and sex is OK with no restrictions with positions and penetration. Because she keep talking during the sex I could not cum, so I finished in her mouth. Thanks heaven she could not speak at this moment.
Conclusion: I like her more in her ACA time. She is still worth a session especially if you are not a talker but listener. However maybe she had to tell me lots since our last meeting more than year ago.
Spent an Morning and Afternoon at oceans last week, had a good relaxed time. Arrived at 11:30 Greeted and paid 40 Euro (was not asked about Taxi, Although I did walk there from Airport as it was a lovely day (40 minutes)).
Given a Wrist band for Lockers, Robe and Towel and pointed to direction of Shower. Very clean area, lockers took a bit to get the hang of (basically push knob in with wrist band and it locks, push again to open all electronic. Simple when you know how!
Arrived in walked around, only about 3 Girls and 3 Men when I got there. Chatted to the Girls and had 2 beers that were of course free before 7 so was nice. Sessioned with Caterine (I think) nice and friendly BBBJ DATY GFE.
So nice overall, noting to Remember especially but service was good. 60 Euro.
Had 2 more beers while I watched the girls Number build up, Then a Romanian walked in (can't remember her Name) lovely ass that I just had to have a go, Was just expecting average session but she blew my mind, Best BBBJ I have ever had. Sloopy and fast, ended up 1 Hour session with loads of action from all directions she was well able for the action.
Slept outside for an hour and a half and then wandered in to see if action was building up, nothing really different, about 10 men and 8 Girls (I could see by 2 pm) most of Girls were 7's or 8's nothing more, most skinny which is not my preference.
As they can't handle big dicks, I don't like too big girls either as I like to pick them up, (I'm not physically big but Girls are shocked when they see what they have to contend with in the room).
3rd Session was in Cinema, about 4:30 pm decided I needed some stimulation after first two sessions, invited one girl in to see if she awoke my senses, watched porn for 10 minutes and I woke up, closed over curtain and had a good session in there.
But was not comfortable as the bedding was hard to stand on and give good leverage, ended session well but again nothing to remember.
Fell asleep on sofa again for a while with another beer, Had to leave by 7 pm so wanted to try and see if I could go again, Think My beer goggles affected me when I was at Bar, one girl attracted my attention so decided to give her ago, she looked tall.
But those high heels fooled me, she was about 5 ft 1 and petite, which was against my normal judgement, Believe she was Spanish, spoke only a bit of English so communication was low. As she was small she barely was able to put my Dick in her mouth.
And almost gagged on it when it went in less than an inch, so I stopped this and went for straight Missionary, I could see she was in some pain and resisted most of my movements so this spoiled the experience a bit, session lasted maybe 20 minutes.
But I was able to shoot my load for the last time that day.
All in all Oceans was good for the time of day, Think it would be good at night with a few other people to ramp up the atmosphere, will I go again "yes" as its near where our head office is. But would not travel especially.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;1765033]If Jaqueline. De, white skin, big tits, red hair, a little bit Kirsten Dunst look like for face, speaking a little bit of french, ex Aca and ex Alexandra at DV, stay at Oceans, good for casting and at Oceans she can make 50 for 30 minutes instead of 40 at Aca, but will she stay? She used to start about 4 pm.[/QUOTE]I was at Oceans on Saturday August 29th. I saw an ex-ACA girl with red hair, white skin and big tits--but she is a little too heavy for my tastes. I do not know if she looks like Kirsten Dunst, because I never look at the face if I do not like the body. I have never noticed her talking excessively with customers. But from my memory, she is usually in the rooms. Perhaps she is heavier than when she was at ACA. I don't remember seeing any other girls with red hair at ACA ever.
Body like third girl from the right:
[URL]http://o2maxfitness.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/body_shapes_female1.jpg[/URL]
Lucy big-tits from ACA is now works at the bar serving drinks.
I only did a session with Ines a Balkan girl that used to work at GT. On the forums, they say she looks like Barbara Streissand.
[QUOTE=McAdonis;1772059]I was at Oceans on Saturday August 29th. I saw an ex-ACA girl with red hair, white skin and big tits--but she is a little too heavy for my tastes. I do not know if she looks like Kirsten Dunst, because I never look at the face if I do not like the body. I have never noticed her talking excessively with customers. But from my memory, she is usually in the rooms. Perhaps she is heavier than when she was at ACA. I don't remember seeing any other girls with red hair at ACA ever.
Body like third girl from the right:
[URL]http://o2maxfitness.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/body_shapes_female1.jpg[/URL]
Lucy big-tits from ACA is now works at the bar serving drinks.
I only did a session with Ines a Balkan girl that used to work at GT. On the forums, they say she looks like Barbara Streissand.[/QUOTE]I said you girl face is just above tits and a little more above Alice long legs. When a girl has beautiful eyes, nose, smile and teeth like Karine, so pleasant to kiss her. Quasimodo challenge is to make girls become Esmeralda, who was so pretty, but loved so much the beast Quasimodo for the way he looked at her, she felt like a princess in his eyes.
Your red hair, white skin, not so slim, big tits girl seems to be Jaqueline. De, who was always quite busy at Aca because higher services level than others.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;1772077]I said you girl face is just above tits and a little more above Alice long legs. When a girl has beautiful eyes, nose, smile and teeth like Karine, so pleasant to kiss her. Quasimodo challenge is to make girls become Esmeralda, who was so pretty, but loved so much the beast Quasimodo for the way he looked at her, she felt like a princess in his eyes.
Your red hair, white skin, not so slim, big tits girl seems to be Jaqueline. De, who was always quite busy at Aca because higher services level than others.[/QUOTE]I think she was popular at Aca because she has a friendly demeanor. She gets along well with the men there since she has a bit of an outgoing personality. She's a smiley type that gives off a friendly presence. She is one of the girls that rooms more often. Janine DE at Sharks has a slimmer and better figure than Jaqueline, but difference in presence as Janine is more reserved. Jacqueline is shorter, and wider curvier in physique. She has a bit of meat on her waste and thicker legs. Never got a closer look of her, but she has light skin, and freckles. Not sure if she is real redhead, but quite convincing. Low 20's I believe. Besides the red hair and light skin, can't say she resemble Kirsten Dunst.
[QUOTE=Monger999;1767567]Spent an Morning and Afternoon at oceans last week, had a good relaxed time.
Then a Romanian walked in (can't remember her Name) [/QUOTE]Thanks for the report. And good that you enjoyed the club. But the purpose of the forums is for mongers to give useful information to one another so that a future visit to the Club is more enjoyable because we get to know which girls give good service and which don't. If there are no details of the girls to be able to identify them (name is best but otherwise an other identifying description e. G. Tattoo of butterfly on right shoulder or long dark hair with blonde streaks etc. Without those details the report might be interesting to read but of little use in helping others. What was informative about your report is that before 7 pm there is little point in going to Oceans as the line up is very low in numbers.
To all are interested. This weekend is Oktoberfest weekend in Oceans. All girls are wearing nice and sexy Bavarian styled dessous. Food will be Bavarian styled and also some Oktoberfest music will be played as well. Let's have a look. Cheers and enjoy.
[QUOTE=RempNobbes;1778453]To all are interested. This weekend is Oktoberfest weekend in Oceans. All girls are wearing nice and sexy Bavarian styled dessous. Food will be Bavarian styled and also some Oktoberfest music will be played as well. Let's have a look. Cheers and enjoy.[/QUOTE]I would prefer if girls in Oceans wear nice and sexy Eva's outfits.
[QUOTE=Willi69;1764254]Oceans is, in spite of the name, a saunaclub, [B]not[/B] an FKK-club.[/QUOTE]Sorry, but what's the difference?
[QUOTE=Siggleii;1781086]Sorry, but what's the difference?[/QUOTE]Girls are not full naked like in FKK.
[QUOTE=Siggleii;1781086]Sorry, but what's the difference?[/QUOTE]FKK is Free Korp Kulture (or something like that). It was originally and still is a name for nudist camps often for the family. But in the brothel scene it means a club where the girls are usually nude. Please read the forums as you should have found this out before asking.
Last night on a whim a friend and I went to Oceans at 2 am and stayed till 7 am. The facilities are very impressive and their were a lot of beautiful girls too even at this time. The outdoor garden was super. The girls were in lingerie and dirndl due to Oktober fest. I went with two girls.
Samantha, German, 175 cm, perfect super model body, blonde, nice face, went for an hour. Multiple positions. Couldn't come for ages due to too much alcohol earlier! Eventually wanked off. Lovely girl. Only does LFK. Face / body / performance is 7/10/8. Definitely would repeat!
She is the tallest girl there and has a tattoo of a flower on her upper thigh / buttocks. Black thong and crop top.
Second was a perfectly formed petite Romanian, dark hair and smokey eyes, absolutely beautiful face, about 165 cm. Optifick. Does not kiss at all, does not allow 69 or pussy licking or ass licking but gives an incredible blowjob and is genuinely eager to please despite her restrictions. A bit stubborn extra money does not make her change her mind! I fucked her beautiful little body for ages and really tried out all my variations! After 30 minutes Stil hadn't come so reluctantly extended to an hour. Eventually came from masturbating as she played with her ass. Beautiful beautiful girl in her early 20's with the tightest pussy but too many rules. 9 /9 /6. Unsure about repeat.
A good club worth visiting. Didn't get to try the food.
That was an unforgettable and incredible weekend at Oceans. It now has a bit of Artemis Berlin flair. Throughput of men were great between 10 pm and next day 7 am. Both days. Party time atmosphere and a brilliant girls line up made one of the best Oceans weekend that year. Afraid to wait for their one year party at November 7th. With following biggest trade fair in Duesseldorf for a complete week, the Medica 2015.
By the way. The master of the sauna, makes every one hour between 6 pm and 1 am enjoyable sauna injections. And it's getting more exciting when the girls are coming in after a short cigarette break from cold outside to warm up into the sauna. Excellent!
What a big change in the exciting Oceans time.
Hope to meet followers sometime at the White Oceans sofa (couch) near the entrance. Very good spot and chat area.
Cheers RM.
[QUOTE=RempNobbes;1785936]a brilliant girls line up made one of the best Oceans weekend that year. [/QUOTE]Names of the hot girls?
Oceans still offering free entry if you like them on facebook?
[QUOTE=RempNobbes;1785936]That was an unforgettable and incredible weekend at Oceans. It now has a bit of Artemis Berlin flair. Throughput of men were great between 10 pm and next day 7 am. Both days. Party time atmosphere and a brilliant girls line up made one of the best Oceans weekend that year. Afraid to wait for their one year party at November 7th. With following biggest trade fair in Duesseldorf for a complete week, the Medica 2015.
By the way. The master of the sauna, makes every one hour between 6 pm and 1 am enjoyable sauna injections. And it's getting more exciting when the girls are coming in after a short cigarette break from cold outside to warm up into the sauna. Excellent!
What a big change in the exciting Oceans time.
Hope to meet followers sometime at the White Oceans sofa (couch) near the entrance. Very good spot and chat area.
Cheers RM.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;1785944]Names of the hot girls?[/QUOTE]Am I the only one who gets the distinct feeling that RempNobbes is particularly biased to advertise & promote Oceans here on ISG?
Every post is filled with his usual cheer leading for Oceans, yet when it comes to specific information (names and descriptions of girls, and room experiences) the silence is deafening.
So far most reviews, with the exception of Sybarite2006, of Oceans seem very mediocre to me.
[QUOTE=HornyHarry;1786178]Am I the only one who gets the distinct feeling that RempNobbes is particularly biased to advertise & promote Oceans here on ISG?
Every post is filled with his usual cheer leading for Oceans, yet when it comes to specific information (names and descriptions of girls, and room experiences) the silence is deafening.
So far most reviews, with the exception of Sybarite2006, of Oceans seem very mediocre to me.[/QUOTE]This is part of what I posted in the Monndial thread:
[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;1784007] I was going to go there for their Bayram party on 9/25 but made the mistake of going to the Oceans Octoberfest party instead. Deadest party ever: out of the 6-7 fuckable girls out of the 30-40 total there, I did two (one a former star at LR), one wanted extra for kissing, two ignored me totally, and one had such bad breath that I couldn't go with her (I told her about it. She said she had been sick, so I don't know whether she did or could do anything about it.).[/QUOTE]Oceans may have been great when RempNobbes went but he may also have a different definiton of what great is.
[QUOTE=HornyHarry;1786178]Am I the only one who gets the distinct feeling that RempNobbes is particularly biased to advertise & promote Oceans here on ISG?
Every post is filled with his usual cheer leading for Oceans, yet when it comes to specific information (names and descriptions of girls, and room experiences) the silence is deafening.
So far most reviews, with the exception of Sybarite2006, of Oceans seem very mediocre to me.[/QUOTE]I was also the only one to promote World last Winter when some criticized casting without visiting. Casting is not so good now there. I won't also name my "sparkle" girls anymore, due to some "readers" who make me problems with them, because they have to pay for services I had for free and they may not get same smiling services even paying.
At Oceans, I had good experience for 1 hour room with a Romanian girl Emma, and if she is still there I like Jaqueline. De ex Aca and DV. Unfortunately, I can't visit all clubs each week end, so I go to my attractive girls.
Anyone know what the 'Candy-girl show' is that they have as part of the Fri / Sat event this week?
Reading RempNobbers posts here he almost seems like a pr bot.
Working for the place perhaps? I also heard someone saying Oceans had the best variety of girls in NRW from some guy I met, but the thread about the club here is anything but assuring.
[QUOTE=Pistons;1812252]I also heard someone saying Oceans had the best variety of girls in NRW from some guy I met, [/QUOTE]Never heard that. Not from guys. Not from girls.
HB.
[QUOTE=HessenBub;1812286]Never heard that. Not from guys. Not from girls.
HB.[/QUOTE]Perhaps I bumped into RempNobbers accidentally. Although knowing your and some of the other most active posters here's taste in girls, it doesn't say anything to me either.
Take reports with a grain of salt. Best way to know is visiting yourself. I have been doing tours of various clubs on trips to get the most out of it, and it's about luck of running into the right girl at the right club. Sometimes I get luckier and get with more girls on a particular club visit. So, check them out, and let us know how they fare.
I'm planning a trip to Duesseldorf at the end of January and am wondering about the current situation at Oceans since this would be a convenient club to visit. It seems that a number of the past reports have been less than complimentary and I was just curious if anyone on the board has any recent information about the current quality of the LU and the overall experience there. There don't seem to be any recent reliable reports over the past few months so anyone with any up to date info to share would be very appreciated.
Thanks
I visited a few times after the place opened, but the visits weren't that noteworthy. Don't know about how it is now, so you'd have to visit to find out. If you decide to visit, give us an update with a write up.
As a first time visiter to Duss. I'd recommend Goldentime, LivingRoom, Samya, Acapulco, SixSens. I personally recommend you check out various clubs to get an idea of various clubs in the region. You can read about various clubs on these forums which are more active on the NRW clubs. See if Oceans is worth visiting. The forums are not English so you'd have to use Gtranslate.
[URL]http://www.ijsberenforum.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?7-Saunaclubs-en-FKK-Clubs[/URL]
[URL]http://freiercafe.com/forumdisplay.php?f=22[/URL]
[URL]http://www.youppie.net/forum/forumdisplay.php?70-Rh%E9nanie-Westphalie[/URL]
FKK Oceans is a beautiful club with cnice looking girls, but mainly focussed on tourists / not-expereinced punters who don't care. If you are from a country where you already pay $100 for a lapdance and paid sex is illegal, you will have probably a good time.
If you are more used to decent service (so DFK, BBBJ, etc) then better go somewhere else. Most (local / experienced / spoiled) punters avoid this club because a good performing girl (to the German standards!) is hard to find. Good girls are there, BTW, but you really have to look very careful and say no 10-15 times at least to find the right one with a decent service level.
Driving from Great Palace where no attractive girl and pushing Germans under rain all along, arrived at 13.59, was asked if first visit, answer: no, was asked for 65 , answer: goodbye. Parking was quite empty, out of helicopter. When I arrive at Acapulco at 13.10 , they ask me for 30, not 40. I will not pay 65 for entry at Oceans where attractive girls arrive after 8 pm, where no free foods all day. Thanks to the desk theke, I had fantastic day at LR after leaving Oceans. I don't plan to return soon, I prefer to repeat at Aca and LR in NRW and Sharks in Hessen. I prefer, for my weekly 2 or 2 FKK visits, to keep my money to enjoy time with girls and I did yesterday for my 2 1 hour dreamed rooms at LR. Nevertheless, for my last visit, had good room with EMA. Ro, ex Harem Padenborn, but entry 65 is too expensive for services quality, compare to LR, GT, Samya, Aca, less expensive with free foods and drinks.
You paid entry? Nobody does that! Check ebay for some of the free entries they apparently are handing out all over the place. There are recent reports stating that all drinks will have to be paid shortly, so anyone that is interested to visit should keep track of that. At the same time prices for food are dropped considerably.
Happy hour is 40 until 2 pm, so I didn't pay 65 and left, to spend my time and money at LR. I don't think Oceans casting can compete with girls I met at LR.
Free entry from noon to 2 pm until end of February. My advice; arrive quite before 2 pm. Girls arrive late, but beautiful design club and rest room for "siesta" . Far from main NRW club with 200 girls as planned. Maybe I will buy helicopter to return to Nicolette at Harmony.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;1831949]Free entry from noon to 2 pm until end of February. My advice; arrive quite before 2 pm. Girls arrive late, but beautiful design club and rest room for "siesta" . Far from main NRW club with 200 girls as planned. Maybe I will buy helicopter to return to Nicolette at Harmony.[/QUOTE]Regarding the free entry before 2 pm promotion running until Feb 28th: It requires that you spend 15 EUR minimum on food and drinks.
If you stay a few hours, it is easy to do. Breakfast is free. Siesta for a few hours. Cola, Fanta, orange juice, water, coffee are 2 EUR. Beer 5 EUR. Spaghetti Bolognese for 10 EUR is probably best single dish I've had in a club, but wasn't huge portion.
[QUOTE=McAdonis;1836872]Regarding the free entry before 2 pm promotion running until Feb 28th: It requires that you spend 15 EUR minimum on food and drinks.
If you stay a few hours, it is easy to do. Breakfast is free. Siesta for a few hours. Cola, Fanta, orange juice, water, coffee are 2 EUR. Beer 5 EUR. Spaghetti Bolognese for 10 EUR is probably best single dish I've had in a club, but wasn't huge portion.[/QUOTE]You are right, with only 10€ for pasta, from free breakfast at noon, with fruit juices, you can survive until 7 am, you can have a siesta or even a night sleep, but what about the girls? How many? 200 as claimed when it opened? Where are the beauties? Even I found 2 pretty girls there and EMA. Ro from Harem Padenborn, was a good surprise.
If you find 20 attractive girls to fuck, there is ATM inside, but I never used it.
[QUOTE=McAdonis;1836872]Regarding the free entry before 2 pm promotion running until Feb 28th: It requires that you spend 15 EUR minimum on food and drinks.
If you stay a few hours, it is easy to do. Breakfast is free. Siesta for a few hours. Cola, Fanta, orange juice, water, coffee are 2 EUR. Beer 5 EUR. Spaghetti Bolognese for 10 EUR is probably best single dish I've had in a club, but wasn't huge portion.[/QUOTE]I believe the Spaghetti Bolognese costs 40 Euros if you arrive by taxi.
[QUOTE=FreeDude;1821608]all drinks will have to be paid shortly[/QUOTE]Na na na na hey hey hey...... Goodbye.
[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1820893]I visited a few times after the place opened, but the visits weren't that noteworthy. Don't know about how it is now, so you'd have to visit to find out. If you decide to visit, give us an update with a write up.
As a first time visiter to Duss. I'd recommend Goldentime, LivingRoom, Samya, Acapulco, SixSens. I personally recommend you check out various clubs to get an idea of various clubs in the region. You can read about various clubs on these forums which are more active on the NRW clubs. See if Oceans is worth visiting. The forums are not English so you'd have to use Gtranslate.
[URL]http://www.ijsberenforum.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?7-Saunaclubs-en-FKK-Clubs[/URL]
[URL]http://freiercafe.com/forumdisplay.php?f=22[/URL]
[URL]http://www.youppie.net/forum/forumdisplay.php?70-Rh%E9nanie-Westphalie[/URL][/QUOTE]Which of the above mentioned clubs can be easily accessed by public transport.
I will be in dusseldorf for just 1 day on 8th March and would like to visit.
Cris.
[QUOTE=Mindapur;1845236]Which of the above mentioned clubs can be easily accessed by public transport.
I will be in dusseldorf for just 1 day on 8th March and would like to visit.[/QUOTE]Living Room (but you'll have to leave by midnight).
[QUOTE=Ableyone;1845239]Living Room (but you'll have to leave by midnight).[/QUOTE]Thank you.
Can you also guide the best route of public transport to take. to and form dusseldorf hbf
Cris.
[QUOTE=Mindapur;1845472]Can you also guide the best route of public transport to take. to and form dusseldorf hbf[/QUOTE]S28 in direction Kaarster See, to stop Ikea Kaarst, get off the train, cross the tracks, through the car park, down the alleyway, turn left then down the road past the house with the heart and turn right, you are there.
Price level B for the train ticket.
The above is for Living Room, whereas Oceans can be reached by walking from Dusseldorf Rath station past the house with the monkey.
Most experienced punters don't visit this club, but if you still want to have a look, now it can (almost) for free (between 12 and 14, after it is 30 euro without food and 50 euro with food). Still some tourists from abroad seem to come by taxi and pay 80-90 euro entrance Coming week when you come in suit plus tie it will also be free entrance.
http://fkk-oceans.de/service/
The only thing what is missing now is girls with a good service / attitude. So also experienced punters start to visit this club (and THEN, and only THEN) they can rise prices again.
[QUOTE=Maxime;1846122]Most experienced punters don't visit this club, but if you still want to have a look, now it can (almost) for free (between 12 and 14, after it is 30 euro without food and 50 euro with food).[/QUOTE]While I wouldn't recommend the club itself, I would recommend Czech Jordan. She is a MILF that I'd estimate at early 30's. Unfortunately, she's gained 10 kg and some wrinkles since these old photos, but since she is 175 cm it doesn't look bad. Her blow job is legendary. Good work ethic. Good attitude. Not a complainer. Type of girl with a loyal following that has call-in appointments in advance, so I think she can cater the illusion to the client whether he likes GFE or PSE.
The second photo is close to my ideal proportion, body ratio. Legs and arms are long, thin, and gangly, but disproportionately big tits. I didn't know her when she was quite this thin.
Agree on Jordan, she is good exception in Oceans, as ex Freude39 girl (named Justina), and many other clubs, including a small gangbang club (under the name Pamela), she is worth the money. As is her (Rumanian) girlfriend Vivian in fact.
I set aside the night for making my first visit to Oceans. Since the two clubs are fairly close to one another, for a single-day combination Acapulco Gold and Oceans do make a nice pair. I got a taxi from AG to Oceans for around 15 Euros (I do not know if Oceans would get you from Acapulco Gold with their car free pickup service). I had the taxi drop me off at a block of apartments a couple of blocks away, saying I was staying at an Air BnB flat, thus avoiding the charge Oceans hits you with when dropped off by taxi.
With their extreme contrast in style, the two clubs made a good day / night combination. Literally, they are like day and night, something I noticed immediately, the in-your-face lit up signs and helicopter contrasting with the anonymous private house that is Acapulco Gold. While inside Acapulco is cozy, Oceans is brash and could be the "in the club" set for a rap video.
That's not to say I didn't get a warm welcome at Oceans: coming in with a few hours left on my birthday, the entry fee was waived. My foray into the locker room (with the cool pick-your-own electronic lockers) also signaled I was out of AG territory: unlike the reserved middle-aged to older German gents I noted there, Oceans even on a Sunday night was brimming with young guys, many foreign born (fine with me) but a decent number loud and brimming with machismo; the jerk factor seemed higher than normal for a saunaclub. That being my observation, I didn't let it affect my enjoyment of the club.
And enjoy I did. I actually went into Oceans with pretty low expectations, but these were easily exceeded. It had the best lineup I saw on my trip, a notch higher than any other place. As I took a seat at the bar my eyes popped at the girls walking by.
I relocated to the couches overlooking the place along the back wall, partly to avoid the handful of girls approaching guests. There were not too many of them, but I wanted to take my time to scope out my options. From my seat I spotted a black girl on a nearby couch, wrapped in her towel to keep warm in the cool room (in this cavernous place it's hard for the body heat in the room to warm it up).
I didn't need to have a clear view of her body to want to go with Kassie; her face was gorgeous. She was of Ghanaian-German background, and reinforced my opinion that girls with mixed-race backgrounds (whatever that may mean) tend to be especially attractive. When she did stand up and shed her towel, as we headed to a room, I was even more pleased at the sexy curves I saw.
Kassie's curves looked even better with her lingerie off, and felt great as I ran my hands over her full breasts and round ass while we stood kissing. We spent lots of time on oral sex, her blowing me nicely and me getting her pussy soaked as I licked her long time. That got her eager to mount me in cowgirl and ride hard, all the while I held onto her heavy tit for dear life. I clutched her ass tightly when we moved to doggy and unleashed a burst of cum. As we held each other on the bed Kassie fell into a satisfied sleep, giving me the treat of gazing at her beautiful face. As we said our goodbyes I thanked her for giving me such a fine birthday gift.
A nice feature of Oceans was the periodic dance performances by some of the girls there. At one point a girl who had been dressed in tight cutoff jean shorts and a bikini top emerged, transformed, in a full bellydancing outfit. She gyrated her curvy hips and ass wildly, the talented muscles of her midsection enough to put any oriental dancer to shame. Her thick mane of curly blondish hair shook madly as she whirled.
Adhering to the "if you can dance, you can fuck" maxim, I approached the still heated-up Nicole after her act and a costume change. This Romanian was very friendly and our session validated my choice. Nicole stripped for me while I sat on the couch across from the bed, peeling off her jeans and bikini top to reveal the body of a real woman, thick with a sexy ass, up there with some of the best Brazilians I have been with. She kneeled down and parted my robe, taking my cock in her hot mouth. When we fucked it should come as no surprise that doggystyle was the featured position. Allowing me to squeeze Nicole's curvy ass cheeks and hang onto her hips as I banged her furiously. Nicole was a wild ride.
After all that activity I was ready for some sustenance, and so sat down for a late dinner, maybe half an hour before they closed the kitchen at 11 PM or so. You can choose off the menu from a small selection of dishes at no charge, or pay for other selections. Something I regretted about the changes at Acapulco Gold was the switch from made-to-order meals to buffet -style, so this made up for that. The pork filet I ordered at Oceans was delicious, and it came with excellent sides too. Another nice food bonus is that at around 2 or 3 AM they put out some "breakfast:" some breads, cheeses, cold cuts, etc. You've never seen a stampede until you witness the girl's at Oceans rushing up to that; within minutes it was picked over like a cloud of locusts had descended.
I was relaxing on one of the back couches when I saw a blonde in a super tight shirt and even tighter shorts get up on one of the stages to dance. I spent the next fifteen minutes in a trance, enthralled by her moves, which I didn't think possible in heels so high. These kinds of otherworldly moves must translate to skill in the bed, I reasoned, and decided to approach her as soon as her set was over.
This I did with some hesitation, since I had seen Vanessa (Romania) earlier in the evening near the bar and, while it is nothing I can put my finger on now, she seemed intimidating, maybe it was just because she was such a hottie. She looked even more enticing post-dance, with a clear adrenaline rush and sheen of perspiration on her skin. To my relief she responded to my Hello, and complimenting her dancing with a beaming smile, and agreed to go to the room together, leaving me at the bar for a few minutes while she got refreshed.
Vanessa's reaction made me happy, but I was still not sure of what to expect in the bedroom, though I had my hopes. And again, Vanessa proved herself no diva. Instead, she was as GFE an experience as I had on this NRW trip. Giving her a break from all her exertions on stage, I had Vanessa lie back and went down on her for a long time, getting my face drenched in her pussy juice as she squirmed and braced the palms of her hands against the wall behind the bed.
Satisfied, she applied her own mouth to my cock for some of the best sucking of my trip, and got back into performance mode with a lap dance that segued into some vigorous riding cowgirl style and reverse. Down on all fours in front of me, I grabbed Vanessa's ass cheeks and pounded hard, Vanessa's blonde ponytail whipping up and down, before unloading an explosive cum. We spent some time at the end of our 90 minutes together cuddling, chatting, and looking at sexy photos of her on her phone, for one of the nicest session-endings I can recall. From dancing queen to girl-next-door with some of the cutest dimples I ever saw, this was a thrilling contrast to behold.
After my session with Vanessa I was tired but still having a good time, not ready for home yet though it was nearing 1 AM. Without a clear game plan I just sat at the bar with a drink. Soon I saw a couple of olive-skinned girls whom I assumed were Latinas walk over to a nearby spot. I had seen them before; they actually were impossible to miss, one being one of the few girls going topless at Oceans, the other a tall, ultra-slender figure wearing her hair in cornrows.
My suspicion that they were Latinas was confirmed when I approached the topless one with frizzy hair (Mia), saying "Hola. " I liked the fact that the girl in cornrows (Jill) stood back instead of the two of them assaulting me about going for a threesome. But this was exactly what I had in mind, and the girls were pleased when I proposed it.
Mia and Jill were from the Dominican Republic, and apparently were not regulars at Oceans. Once in the room, the girls got excited when I asked them to play some Dominican bachata on their phones; the party was on! Kneeling on the bed, we shared a threeway kiss while their hands wandered over my dick and mine over Mia's firm conical tits and Jill's small ones.
I was soon on my back with the girls alternating between sucking my cock and sitting on my face. Both enjoyed the rapid-fire action of my tongue on their pussy lips and clits, as I bucked my hips due to the excellent mouth service each provided to me. When it was time to fuck Jill mounted me and I again called for Mia to ride my face while her friend played cowgirl with my dick, culminating in a burst of cum. Doggy was good too with two nice asses at my disposal, Mia's a bit fuller than Jill's, and I somehow produced a second cum in that position. But my indelible memory is of thrusting deep into Jill and missionary, her legs spread-eagle, while Mia lay back furiously fingering her clit to orgasm, her pussy shiny with her juices.
That was it for me at Oceans. I sat back and reflected on the evening as closing time approached and the club wound down. Oceans is not probably cozy enough for spending a full day there, but I'm looking forward to getting back for another night like this one.
[QUOTE=IbnButtita;1858482]I didn't need to have a clear view of her body to want to go with Kassie; her face was gorgeous. She was of Ghanaian-German background, and reinforced my opinion that girls with mixed-race backgrounds (whatever that may mean) tend to be especially attractive. When she did stand up and shed her towel, as we headed to a room, I was even more pleased at the sexy curves I saw.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the series of reports Ibn. Been awhile since we got a series of them of the NRW, and let alone girl report of Oceans (not much other than sauna and facilities).
Can you describe Kassie? Hair color, skin tone, height if you can. I am looking for an half African - half German chick, not tall, about 165, blond frizzy curls, light toned Mulatto(likeness to the attached image). Should still be in lower half of her 20's. Last time I've met her was long ago at Mondial (one of my all time fav), but she disappeared after my first set of visits.
[QUOTE=IbnButtita;1858482]Mia and Jill were from the Dominican Republic, and apparently were not regulars at Oceans. Once in the room, the girls got excited when I asked them to play some Dominican bachata on their phones; the party was on! Kneeling on the bed, we shared a threeway kiss while their hands wandered over my dick and mine over Mia's firm conical tits and Jill's small ones.[/QUOTE]That's a good way to lift the mood, their ethnic music if it's a big part of their culture.
Some girls, it's R&B, Romanians Manele (or whatever else), Brazilian Samba. My experience is if the girl suggest music, and it plays, the session plays well! LOL. Probably plays well with Latinas I assume.
Great post Ibn be. I also had a great night at Oceans last time I was there. It certainly is the flashiest club I've been to and the one that stays open the longest- till 7 am!
There was a very tall German girl there last time called Samantha whom I sessioned with- she was great. Did you see her? Her main giveaway was how tall she was and she wore a very short crop top. Highly recommended.
Anyway thanks for this report. I better make a return visit to Oceans I guess soon. BTW the Garden area is ls also cool.
[QUOTE=IbnButtita;1858482]I set aside the night for making my first visit to Oceans. Since the two clubs are fairly close to one another, for a single-day combination Acapulco Gold and Oceans do make a nice pair. I got a taxi from AG to Oceans for around 15 Euros (I do not know if Oceans would get you from Acapulco Gold with their car free pickup service). I had the taxi drop me off at a block of apartments a couple of blocks away, saying I was staying at an Air BnB flat, thus avoiding the charge Oceans hits you with when dropped off by taxi.
With their extreme contrast in style, the two clubs made a good day / night combination. Literally, they are like day and night, something I noticed immediately, the in-your-face lit up signs and helicopter contrasting with the anonymous private house that is Acapulco Gold. While inside Acapulco is cozy, Oceans is brash and could be the "in the club" set for a rap video.
That's not to say I didn't get a warm welcome at Oceans: coming in with a few hours left on my birthday, the entry fee was waived. My foray into the locker room (with the cool pick-your-own electronic lockers) also signaled I was out of AG territory: unlike the reserved middle-aged to older German gents I noted there, Oceans even on a Sunday night was brimming with young guys, many foreign born (fine with me) but a decent number loud and brimming with machismo; the jerk factor seemed higher than normal for a saunaclub. That being my observation, I didn't let it affect my enjoyment of the club.
And enjoy I did. I actually went into Oceans with pretty low expectations, but these were easily exceeded. It had the best lineup I saw on my trip, a notch higher than any other place. As I took a seat at the bar my eyes popped at the girls walking by.
I relocated to the couches overlooking the place along the back wall, partly to avoid the handful of girls approaching guests. There were not too many of them, but I wanted to take my time to scope out my options. From my seat I spotted a black girl on a nearby couch, wrapped in her towel to keep warm in the cool room (in this cavernous place it's hard for the body heat in the room to warm it up).
I didn't need to have a clear view of her body to want to go with Kassie; her face was gorgeous. She was of Ghanaian-German background, and reinforced my opinion that girls with mixed-race backgrounds (whatever that may mean) tend to be especially attractive. When she did stand up and shed her towel, as we headed to a room, I was even more pleased at the sexy curves I saw.
Kassie's curves looked even better with her lingerie off, and felt great as I ran my hands over her full breasts and round ass while we stood kissing. We spent lots of time on oral sex, her blowing me nicely and me getting her pussy soaked as I licked her long time. That got her eager to mount me in cowgirl and ride hard, all the while I held onto her heavy tit for dear life. I clutched her ass tightly when we moved to doggy and unleashed a burst of cum. As we held each other on the bed Kassie fell into a satisfied sleep, giving me the treat of gazing at her beautiful face. As we said our goodbyes I thanked her for giving me such a fine birthday gift.
A nice feature of Oceans was the periodic dance performances by some of the girls there. At one point a girl who had been dressed in tight cutoff jean shorts and a bikini top emerged, transformed, in a full bellydancing outfit. She gyrated her curvy hips and ass wildly, the talented muscles of her midsection enough to put any oriental dancer to shame. Her thick mane of curly blondish hair shook madly as she whirled.
Adhering to the "if you can dance, you can fuck" maxim, I approached the still heated-up Nicole after her act and a costume change. This Romanian was very friendly and our session validated my choice. Nicole stripped for me while I sat on the couch across from the bed, peeling off her jeans and bikini top to reveal the body of a real woman, thick with a sexy ass, up there with some of the best Brazilians I have been with. She kneeled down and parted my robe, taking my cock in her hot mouth. When we fucked it should come as no surprise that doggystyle was the featured position. Allowing me to squeeze Nicole's curvy ass cheeks and hang onto her hips as I banged her furiously. Nicole was a wild ride.
After all that activity I was ready for some sustenance, and so sat down for a late dinner, maybe half an hour before they closed the kitchen at 11 PM or so. You can choose off the menu from a small selection of dishes at no charge, or pay for other selections. Something I regretted about the changes at Acapulco Gold was the switch from made-to-order meals to buffet -style, so this made up for that. The pork filet I ordered at Oceans was delicious, and it came with excellent sides too. Another nice food bonus is that at around 2 or 3 AM they put out some "breakfast:" some breads, cheeses, cold cuts, etc. You've never seen a stampede until you witness the girl's at Oceans rushing up to that; within minutes it was picked over like a cloud of locusts had descended.
I was relaxing on one of the back couches when I saw a blonde in a super tight shirt and even tighter shorts get up on one of the stages to dance. I spent the next fifteen minutes in a trance, enthralled by her moves, which I didn't think possible in heels so high. These kinds of otherworldly moves must translate to skill in the bed, I reasoned, and decided to approach her as soon as her set was over.
This I did with some hesitation, since I had seen Vanessa (Romania) earlier in the evening near the bar and, while it is nothing I can put my finger on now, she seemed intimidating, maybe it was just because she was such a hottie. She looked even more enticing post-dance, with a clear adrenaline rush and sheen of perspiration on her skin. To my relief she responded to my Hello, and complimenting her dancing with a beaming smile, and agreed to go to the room together, leaving me at the bar for a few minutes while she got refreshed.
Vanessa's reaction made me happy, but I was still not sure of what to expect in the bedroom, though I had my hopes. And again, Vanessa proved herself no diva. Instead, she was as GFE an experience as I had on this NRW trip. Giving her a break from all her exertions on stage, I had Vanessa lie back and went down on her for a long time, getting my face drenched in her pussy juice as she squirmed and braced the palms of her hands against the wall behind the bed.
Satisfied, she applied her own mouth to my cock for some of the best sucking of my trip, and got back into performance mode with a lap dance that segued into some vigorous riding cowgirl style and reverse. Down on all fours in front of me, I grabbed Vanessa's ass cheeks and pounded hard, Vanessa's blonde ponytail whipping up and down, before unloading an explosive cum. We spent some time at the end of our 90 minutes together cuddling, chatting, and looking at sexy photos of her on her phone, for one of the nicest session-endings I can recall. From dancing queen to girl-next-door with some of the cutest dimples I ever saw, this was a thrilling contrast to behold.
After my session with Vanessa I was tired but still having a good time, not ready for home yet though it was nearing 1 AM. Without a clear game plan I just sat at the bar with a drink. Soon I saw a couple of olive-skinned girls whom I assumed were Latinas walk over to a nearby spot. I had seen them before; they actually were impossible to miss, one being one of the few girls going topless at Oceans, the other a tall, ultra-slender figure wearing her hair in cornrows.
My suspicion that they were Latinas was confirmed when I approached the topless one with frizzy hair (Mia), saying "Hola. " I liked the fact that the girl in cornrows (Jill) stood back instead of the two of them assaulting me about going for a threesome. But this was exactly what I had in mind, and the girls were pleased when I proposed it.
Mia and Jill were from the Dominican Republic, and apparently were not regulars at Oceans. Once in the room, the girls got excited when I asked them to play some Dominican bachata on their phones; the party was on! Kneeling on the bed, we shared a threeway kiss while their hands wandered over my dick and mine over Mia's firm conical tits and Jill's small ones.
I was soon on my back with the girls alternating between sucking my cock and sitting on my face. Both enjoyed the rapid-fire action of my tongue on their pussy lips and clits, as I bucked my hips due to the excellent mouth service each provided to me. When it was time to fuck Jill mounted me and I again called for Mia to ride my face while her friend played cowgirl with my dick, culminating in a burst of cum. Doggy was good too with two nice asses at my disposal, Mia's a bit fuller than Jill's, and I somehow produced a second cum in that position. But my indelible memory is of thrusting deep into Jill and missionary, her legs spread-eagle, while Mia lay back furiously fingering her clit to orgasm, her pussy shiny with her juices.
That was it for me at Oceans. I sat back and reflected on the evening as closing time approached and the club wound down. Oceans is not probably cozy enough for spending a full day there, but I'm looking forward to getting back for another night like this one.[/QUOTE]Thanks for a very useful, comprehensive and really well written report. I'm heading to NRW in 3 weeks and have decided to try ACA for the first time. I've wondered about Oceans as I like big clubs but have been put off by previous reports of old line up. Your report is enough for me to try to give it a go. A couple of questions if I may: first, is there a good address to send the taxi to? I don't speak German so it would be handy to have the name of a local hotel for example. Secondly, would you do ACA before Oceans as you did or the other way around or does it not matter? Many thanks again.
Nice report. Thanks. First really positive report I've read about the place.
Still no need for a full quote.
Payforit, take a look at the Android app mytaxi. It shows where taxi's are and you can post the destination before you order. That might be an easier solution.
Tell him Oberhausener Strasse 15, Eisenherz Bikes.
[URL]http://www.eisenherz-bikes.de/[/URL]
That should do.
HB.
Sounds like what I heard from a punter a few months ago who had oceans as his favorite nrw club. But I was shut down pretty quick when mentioning it here. Maybe worth a visit soon I suppose.
And lol for the quote... do you have any idea how annoying those are when you use a cellphone and have to swipe forever? :)
[QUOTE=HessenBub;1858854]Tell him Oberhausener Strasse 15, Eisenherz Bikes.
[URL]http://www.eisenherz-bikes.de/[/URL]
That should do.
HB.[/QUOTE]Cheers. That's a help. And guys. Sorry re the full quote. I'll admit to pure laziness! Never thought about the mobile issue but point taken. I agree with Pistons. Sounds like it might be time to find out for myself if this club is slowly getting there. Every time I've raised the possibility of adding it to the list on a possible tourist trip for me I too have been told not to waste my time. But it's one of those find out for yourself situations I think and it's close enough to other options to bail out if necessary. I was scheduled for GT in a few weeks but I've really not liked what I've read in that thread. Whilst again I'd like to see for myself, given limited days, and the distance to GT from central Dusseldorf, I'm now set on trying Oceans and not GT.
I would check out GT before going to Oceans because LR is one of my favorite clubs and it's the same kind of club.
[QUOTE=PayForIt;1858722]
I've wondered about Oceans as I like big clubs but have been put off by previous reports of old line up.
[/QUOTE]Oceans currently has two noteworthy optics for me: Lucy (ex-ACA) would be top 10 in DE at the moment for optics but mediocre service. Jordan (Czech) probably has slipped to 15-20 but she is a service superstar. As a frame of reference, at Oase, which is generally considered to be optically strong, I find no girls that come remotely close to Lucy or Jordan on the optics scale. But I will concede that Oase overall has more fuckable girls than Oceans. Most likely your tastes will be different from mine though.
[QUOTE=PayForIt;1858722]
A couple of questions if I may: first, is there a good address to send the taxi to? Secondly, would you do ACA before Oceans as you did or the other way around or does it not matter? Many thanks again.[/QUOTE]HB posted an address for taxi dropoff near Oceans--just scroll down. Oceans has very few girls during the day. ACA has more girls that sleep on-premise, so they have a better daytime LU.
[QUOTE=PayForIt;1858722]Thanks for a very useful, comprehensive and really well written report. I'm heading to NRW in 3 weeks and have decided to try ACA for the first time. I've wondered about Oceans as I like big clubs but have been put off by previous reports of old line up. Your report is enough for me to try to give it a go. A couple of questions if I may: first, is there a good address to send the taxi to? I don't speak German so it would be handy to have the name of a local hotel for example. Secondly, would you do ACA before Oceans as you did or the other way around or does it not matter? Many thanks again.[/QUOTE]Thank you for the comments. It sounds like HB has provided a useful address. As far as which club to visit first, I was glad I did Acapulco Gold first since the lineup was better at Oceans (it would have felt like more of a let down I think if I did them in reverse order), and AG felt more comfortable for the daytime to me, both for the setting and the mood. Though Oceans' outdoor space could be good for nice weather.
[QUOTE=Sybarite2006;1858658]Great post Ibn be. I also had a great night at Oceans last time I was there. It certainly is the flashiest club I've been to and the one that stays open the longest- till 7 am!
There was a very tall German girl there last time called Samantha whom I sessioned with- she was great. Did you see her? Her main giveaway was how tall she was and she wore a very short crop top. Highly recommended.
Anyway thanks for this report. I better make a return visit to Oceans I guess soon. BTW the Garden area is ls also cool.[/QUOTE]Thanks, but I can't say I recall any girl like that when I visited.
[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1858506]Thanks for the series of reports Ibn. Been awhile since we got a series of them of the NRW, and let alone girl report of Oceans (not much other than sauna and facilities).
Can you describe Kassie? Hair color, skin tone, height if you can. I am looking for an half African - half German chick, not tall, about 165, blond frizzy curls, light toned Mulatto(likeness to the attached image). Should still be in lower half of her 20's. Last time I've met her was long ago at Mondial (one of my all time fav), but she disappeared after my first set of visits.
That's a good way to lift the mood, their ethnic music if it's a big part of their culture.
Some girls, it's R&B, Romanians Manele (or whatever else), Brazilian Samba. My experience is if the girl suggest music, and it plays, the session plays well! LOL. Probably plays well with Latinas I assume.[/QUOTE]I'm always happy to report on these good trips. On the girl you're looking for, when I first glanced at the photos she looked like Nicole the bellydancing Romanian to me. No, Kassie was much darker, I would not have guessed at her mixed heritage except for our conversation. But yours sounds great, I hope you do track her down.
[QUOTE=IbnButtita;1859363]Thank you for the comments. It sounds like HB has provided a useful address. As far as which club to visit first, I was glad I did Acapulco Gold first since the lineup was better at Oceans (it would have felt like more of a let down I think if I did them in reverse order), and AG felt more comfortable for the daytime to me, both for the setting and the mood. Though Oceans' outdoor space could be good for nice weather.[/QUOTE]Thanks. Again very helpful and ditto to McAdonis. I land on a Wednesday and can get to Oceans for around 6 pm. It sounds very much like ACA is a daytime club so I'm forced to do them the other way around from you as I could not get to ACA until maybe 6. 30 pm on the Wednesday and it sounds like Oceans would be dead on the Thursday daytime. I'm off to Sakura on the Friday. So looks like Oceans Wednesday evening, ACA Thursday daytime and Sakura Friday. I appreciate Weds / Thursday are not best in any club but I'm restrained by business / time / locations. I had contemplated GT and ACA but having read these posts and given proximity I am definitely not doing GT (not least because there forum members there barely give it a good write up! It's also very far out in comparison to Oceans. My plan is to hit Oceans early Weds evening and if it is no good then to jump to LR which I have been to and enjoyed once before though its a bit small for me! Thanks again for the advice / suggestions / feedback.
[QUOTE=PayForIt;1858722]Secondly, would you do ACA before Oceans as you did or the other way around or does it not matter?[/QUOTE]There are two Acapulco clubs, ACA or Acapulco in Velbert and the new smaller AG or Acapulco Gold in Ratingen. Ibn Buttita reported on AG but you appear to be referring to ACA.
Start your research over again. ACA sucks as a day time club. ACA at 6:30 pm is a good time to be there. If it sucks, hop in your car and hit the next club on your list. GT is the ONLY good day time option remaining.
FYI ACA lineup is currently low in numbers. Maybe 40 girls? However, top end girls like Kate, Emily, Hannah, etc. Are enough for anyone.
First visit to Oceans for me. Went in expecting over-the-hill girls who couldn't cut it in other clubs. Surprisingly that was not the case at all. The girls were on the younger side and decent looking. I found maybe 5 girls I would have went with. The hottest one was a tallish fit swimmer shoulder girl (not my usual preference) with a beautiful face. However, she seemed so bitchy that even I didn't feel like approaching her. There was another tiny girl with the two toned black and white hair who did the belly dancing. I settled on a young busty one who hit her tits well. Name is Sharon. Great service. DFK, DATY, etc. Nice girl who I would repeat with. Of course for ex-ACA Lucy fans she's there doing her stage show.
As for the club it's really nice. Best part is it wasn't smoky. The food was mediocre and definitely not up to Magnum, PSR, and GT quality unless you want to dish out 30 euro for a steak. Don't think I read this before but the club is 95% Turkish men. Unlike the crazy yahoos at Mondial and Magnum, this group seemed higher class. 30 euro entry (drinks and food not included) is also a good deal for a central DUSS club.
I will definitely return to Oceans.
Note to club. Move that stupid helicopter that is taking up half your tiny parking lot!
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;1859454]Start your research over again. ACA sucks as a day time club. ACA at 6:30 pm is a good time to be there. If it sucks, hop in your car and hit the next club on your list. GT is the ONLY good day time option remaining.
FYI ACA lineup is currently low in numbers. Maybe 40 girls? However, top end girls like Kate, Emily, Hannah, etc. Are enough for anyone.[/QUOTE]As Ableyone says: my confusion arises out of there being two Acapulco clubs which I was not aware of. I think I want to go to ACA not the new smaller club. Your report on Oceans only reinforces my determination that it will be on the list. The only other issue I have is which club in NRW to go to on Day 2 before I head down to Sakura. I've done LR so want to see somewhere else and ACA seems to have best recent reports. As you say, even if there are only 40 girls I won't need more than a few peaches. I'm not normally a daytime club person. I prefer to hit a club at 6 pm and stay till around 1 or 2 am. Given your recent visits to several of the clubs in the area (thanks for the reports) which club would you go to in addition to Oceans if you only had one other day in Dusseldorf? I'm basing this on LU. So if you think LR LU is currently best I'll head back there. LU ultimately being more important than seeing a new club. Every member of all the NRW forums who has PMd me suggest hiring a car but I'm still not in favor. I like a beer when I'm in FKK clubs and I'd rather pay more to get to one and be safe than to drink and drive which I wouldn't do at all. So I think that rules out GT and I am expecting the taxi back from ACA if I go there to be expensive to central Dusseldorf but reports on the club make it tempting. Would appreciate your input having read this. Cheers.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;1859454]Start your research over again. ACA sucks as a day time club.[/QUOTE]That's something I haven't been made aware of by my (daytime) visits to ACA.
Unless you know particular girls that shows up early enough at Aca, I'd agree daytime is not the best time. Better and greater picks at night.
Like Ablyone pointed out, two different clubs(definately different). Aca Gold currently used to be Haus Panthera which is located in Ratingen close to the airport. The original Acapulco is in Velbert. Two totally different clubs.
If you're on your way down to Stuttgart, I'd choose Sharks over any NRW saunaclub now. it's not even a contest if you refuse to go to GT. Just the mass quantity of girls. Sharks has something for everyone. Sharks also provides a consistent level of service. I can't tell you if the girl I took at Oceans was the club standard or I lucked out and got a great girl. LR service this time was not as high as I previously had. Mary looks great walking around topless but was not very emotional in the room. sure she did all the right things but I need some sort of fake passion too. OTH Renata was fun.
Even though I enjoyed my first visit to Oceans, I'd still hit ACA, GT, and LR over Oceans if you're considering only optiks.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;1859556]If you're on your way down to Stuttgart, I'd choose Sharks over any NRW saunaclub now. it's not even a contest if you refuse to go to GT. Just the mass quantity of girls. Sharks has something for everyone. Sharks also provides a consistent level of service. I can't tell you if the girl I took at Oceans was the club standard or I lucked out and got a great girl. LR service this time was not as high as I previously had. Mary looks great walking around topless but was not very emotional in the room. sure she did all the right things but I need some sort of fake passion too. OTH Renata was fun.
Even though I enjoyed my first visit to Oceans, I'd still hit ACA, GT, and LR over Oceans if you're considering only optiks.[/QUOTE]Thanks. I've been to Sharks quite a few times and though I have always liked it (save for one trip) I think to see new clubs is good if possible. It's not 100% optiks. Hence why I'm visiting Sakura. Which looks a really nice club as well.
I land in Dusseldorf. I could just get a train direct to FRA which doesn't take long but that would be a shame not to see some new clubs. I've decided that my first night will be in Oceans. I like the bigger clubs and the positive recent reports (not just yours) are enough. If I can find 2 great girls I'll be happy enough. Sakura is night three. That leaves me one free (Thursday) night. I'm tempted to either go to ACA though recent reports are not great, and it's quite a way out of Dusseldorf (I don't mean the one at the airport. Nuisance it changed it's name to another aca! But if maybe you are right and a night in Sharks might be worth it as both Oceans and Sakura might be a gamble. At least Sharks would guarantee some success. Just a shame as I'd quite like to hit three different clubs I've never been to. I think the answer is that if I have a good night in Oceans on night one I'll risk a new club night 2. If it's poor in Oceans I'll hit Sharks night 2 to ensure a hit!
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;1859461]Don't think I read this before but the club is 95% Turkish men. Unlike the crazy yahoos at Mondial and Magnum, this group seemed higher class. [/QUOTE]Here is what I know about the Turkish clientele at varioius NRW clubs. Magnum, I know girls that has checked out the place went right back to LR. There are exceptions with some girls, one of them started carrying sanity kits since she don't trust some of the guys to wash themselves as she put it. Heard about guys looking for free sessions there also. Samya has the older type Turkish, and Magnum has the high younger types, similar to YY on the weekend with thumping music. Girls have told me the clientele type are different at Mondial and Magnum. I suspect more thuggish types at Magnum. Although my latest visits I haven't seen the mohawk thick necks there, but when I look at some of the clientele (youngish types), and some girls in the bar, I swear they are on something. I have ran into a coked up girl at Magnum of course.
A girl I've met at a club told me she's adverse to Turkish clientele after a bad experience. Didn't pay up on a promise.
Generally, girls I've met at Magnum do a short stint there with exceptions.
A girl at Magnum one time were scared of the clientele types that showed up late night, and didn't see her ever again, and then later spotted her at GT. She refers to the men as "Sudlander," referring to the Turkish men there.
Usually high populous Turkish clubs, the session rates and entry are lower (ie. Samya, Mondial, Aca, Panelope) with Magnum and YY (dunno much about Oceans since I haven't visited all that much after lackluster initial visits) being exceptions. So, probably different types of Turkish clientele around.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;1859556]If you're on your way down to Stuttgart, I'd choose Sharks over any NRW saunaclub now. it's not even a contest if you refuse to go to GT. Just the mass quantity of girls. Sharks has something for everyone. Sharks also provides a consistent level of service. I can't tell you if the girl I took at Oceans was the club standard or I lucked out and got a great girl. LR service this time was not as high as I previously had. Mary looks great walking around topless but was not very emotional in the room. sure she did all the right things but I need some sort of fake passion too. OTH Renata was fun.
Even though I enjoyed my first visit to Oceans, I'd still hit ACA, GT, and LR over Oceans if you're considering only optiks.[/QUOTE]I have to agree that Sharks lineup much better than ACA / LR / Oceans.
At 30 EUR entry without food, Oceans might be trying to compete against both Acapulcos for those based out of the'dorf and all points south and west.
Can someone confirm that a girl from Azerbaijan works there? She is a very good looking black hair, who small girl, who speaks well Italian, English and Russian.
Thanks for your help in advance!
I had planned to visit Oceans for the first time last Saturday. I stayed at the Airporthotel Dusseldorf, which I can highly recommend for both the standard of room and the nice trail walk from the hotel the front door of oceans!
I arrived at the club at 4 pm on Saturday to be told that entry was EUR 80! Not what I was expecting at all from the website. EUR 65 is the entry price from the website. I was told that this included everything. Food, drinks, alcohol etc. I asked if there was an alternative and was told that I could get in for cheaper but I wouldn't be entitled to anything, even soft drinks. I didn't ask how much that was.
Did she think I arrived by taxi? I don't know, but she didn't ask how I got there (I walked). I just felt that she was taking advantage of my obvious tourist status. I walked and went to Acapulco instead.
Just a warning to everyone visiting soon. Make sure you are not taken advantage of.
First of all I would like to answer the question of pricing. Oceans is usually explicit about its entrance but it has confusing pricing logic. From 12 - 14:00 it is totally free, but you pay for everything, in my case that was worth it but I drink a lot, but the bill came to 46 Euros with 3 glasses of wine and a lot of soft drinks. From 14:00 onward, it is 30 Euros to enter if you do not want anything included and 50 Euros, if you want a good selection of food and unlimited non alcoholic drinks. Most of the staff are honest but perhaps Flagrunner 7's experience was due to dishonest staff.
I had been there yesterday, which was fine and also about a month ago. However one month ago when I walked from Dusseldorf Rath station and there was no taxi in sight, the reception lady asked me if I had come by taxi, although there was no taxi driver around demanding a commission. I said no, either she was a total moron or dishonest, hoping to pocket 30 Euros for herself.
I usually go to this place on the last day of my trips to Cologne / Dusseldorf since it is so close to the airport but I usually have to leave by 19:30. What I would like to say is that in the past the line up was never impressive before this time, this time however it was. This club is changing for the better for sure. I got there around 12:00, the line up was dismal until 15:00, but by 17:00 there were a lot of hot doable girls around and I am not easy to please at all. So I recommend giving this club a chance from now on.
Does the 50 euro cover include food like pasta? If not, 30 euro is likely the choice for me since non-alcoholic drinks are only 2 euro.
Free entry before 2 pm sounds tempting but I can't see how many girls there would be at that time. On the other hand, a nice free place to get over my jet lag if my hotel room isn't ready.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;1878744]Does the 50 euro cover include food like pasta? If not, 30 euro is likely the choice for me since non-alcoholic drinks are only 2 euro.
Free entry before 2 pm sounds tempting but I can't see how many girls there would be at that time. On the other hand, a nice free place to get over my jet lag if my hotel room isn't ready.[/QUOTE]It does, some dishes are free from the menu and some you have to pay for.
The food is pretty good there, I think the 20 extra Euros is worth it.
Given some recent reports (Banana Boi and Delta Indigo) I decided I had to check this club out. I like the large clubs like Artemis / Sharks (though I've found the recent LU weak) and loved Sakura though smaller the facilities were great.
Checked into Hotel Van Der Valk. Says it is an airport hotel but was 15 euros cab ride from the airport! Lovely hotel. Decided to walk to Oceans. Bit mistake. The walk is down gravel track behind industrial buildings for 1. 2 km. It was early evening but it was so isolated that it didn't feel safe. Surrounded by only trees and as it happened nobody came by. I'm fairly well built and can handle myself but if the wrong company ventured down this path it would be tricky. Nothing happened but for anyone thinking of staying at this lovely hotel and walking to Oceans. Don't! It's 9 euros in a cab (got one back! Worth it.
Got to the club at 5 pm. 65 euros entry. Receptionist did ask if I"the got a cab but didn't push it and I told her I'd taken the track from the hotel. She looked positively shocked!
Nice locker rooms with the fancy electronic FOB. Bit ridiculous that it's 100 euros if you lose it.
Was impressed by the club. Shower area is secluded but very modern. Into club. Large nightclub type venue. Outdoor area was ok I suppose. False grass and a false beach with volleyball and a couple of tents for people to smoke in. A lot of people were outside throughout my stay at the club. Not because the weather was good (it wasn't) but because the temperature in the club is just too hot.
Food was, as reported, very good but it's the first club I've been to where there is no buffet and you have to order from the waitress. At 6 pm it got busy and there as a long wait for food but it was very good indeed. Salad was very fresh and mixed and the schweinesteak and wedges (free) was very nice indeed. Saw some guys taking the steak option which looked very good. Just didn't like having to order.
So onto to the important bit. The LU. From 5 pm to 11 pm this club was very good. Though recent reports have indicated the quality of the LU has increased I was not expecting to find 50+ girls midweek of whom at least 15 were very worth taking to the room. So plenty of choice. Lots of 7's, quite a few 8's I'd say at least 5 9's. No standout 10 - but then I've only ever seen one in an FKK (in Artemis) and maybe 12-15 in many years of mongering in Spain. Took Ada first. Slim Bulgarian. Spoke very limited English. We get to the room (large rooms and many of them. No wait). She says she needs the bathroom. Maybe she did but go before we get to the room honey. So I tell her the 30 minutes will start when she returns. Lo and behold, she frowns and is back inside 30 seconds. It was not possible to get to toilets in that time and back. I lay on the bed and she says we will start with a massage. I ask to kiss first and she tells me DFK is 50 extra. I laugh and say no way. She says she doesn't do DFK. I turn over and she starts a nice massage. A couple of minutes in she announces "you know massage is extra baby". I say it's not it is normal. She is hardly a qualified masseuse. She says it is 100 extra! LOL! I tell her in that case I'm happy to give her a massage for 2 hours for 200. Her face falls flat. I get off the bed, tell her our time is done. We've had exactly 9 minutes in the room together. No kissing, no blow job, no fuck. I tell her I'm not paying her. She says I have to as I took her to the room and it's 150 as she did a massage. I tell her we are going straight to the front desk and if they tell me to pay I will refuse and leave the club immediately never to return. This as NOT a good start. She bursts into tears, begs me not to speak to the front desk and says she will do the massage for free. I tell her to stop crying, I'll happily agree not to speak to the front desk but she hasn't done anything so I'm not paying her 50. More tears. Like an idiot I give her 20 euros (for nothing). She puts it in her bag and throws her arms around me to thank me. The girl is stark raving nuts. Great body, great ass, a cups but great nipples. None of which I got to sample!. Disaster.
Back into bar area frustrated. Order wine. Given and excellent selection and pick out a very nice Malbec which was lovely. Very impressive. Again a number of girls are very easy on the eye. Lots of slim, pretty young girls. Not many with big tits but a few. Most girls are covered but some are topless. None were without bikini bottoms or knickers. Several in lingerie but I like it so fine with me. I nearly do a double take when a girl walks past who looks like the twin sister of model Katie Price but with big black hair extensions. Stunningly pretty face - 9/10 and hard not to think of a touch higher. Body was not so good. Bit curvy for me but she was so facially attractive I wanted to take her. Julia from Bulgaria. Given my horrendous first punt here I decide we will interview at the bar to find out what's what. She tells me DFK is included, she loves games and likes being dominant so if I want this she won't charge extra for it. Normal rules of 50+50 for an hour and extras only for anal or CIM. I say I want neither. Massage? Of course baby. Included. Off we go. Terrific service. Always smiling, asked for DATY, DFK was good if a little lighter than desired. Nice massage and on with the action. Excellent BBBJ and sex in various positions. I tell her we have 10 minutes left of the hour but I need a [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url] and I'll be back as quickly as I can. She tells me to take my time "I"m not interested in the time baby". My hunches rise and I think this is too good to be true and I'm waiting for the sting. I never came. She is terrific. At 1 hour and 24 minutes we are done. I give her 150 euros and she hands me back 50 and tells me we agreed 100. I explain that would not be fair to her as we are well over 1 hour and I'm happy to pay the normal rate. She tells me this really is not necessary. She's had a great time and she says I told you 100 so that is fine. I insist on giving her 170 now. 150 is what I owe and I'm tipping her 20 as she has one of the best attitudes I've come across. I'm well aware of the potential reverse psychology but it wasn't there. She was just very genuine and generous. She was delighted with the tip and we kissed goodbye.
I go for the professional massage next at the back of the club (2 rooms). The masseuse is a middle age woman who gives me a really excellent massage for 60 euros and I give her 10 tip. Great job. Some more food then in for a final punt. Meet Melinda at the bar. Dark hair long, and again far more curvy than my normal type. This wasn't typical of this club. But I just found 2 girls who were particularly attractive and happened to be larger than my normal type. She says she is Spanish. I laugh and tell her I speak fluent Spanish and start to do so. In 20 seconds she demonstrates that beyond doubt she is very much Spanish. Not the normal 30% the EE girls have learned. Melinda is from Malaga, lovely face (8/10) slightly droopy boobs and size 10-12 dress but great fun with nice personality. I'm not sure if she speaks much English or German as we spent the next hour in the room speaking Spanish and she is very much GFE. Not as passionate as Julia. Nice hour and I was struggling to finish. Not to be deterred she worked hard on me and got me there.
Met a terrific guy Karlsen from Germany who spoke in a US accent. Lovely guy. If you read this K please PM me as we didn't exchange numbers. Would be good to keep in touch.
Verdict on Oceans? Nice club. Bit out of the way but near enough to theüsseldorf and the airport. Too hot inside and occasionally too dark. Belly dancers on podiums was a nice touch. Big club, nightclub atmosphere. Now. At 11 pm there must be some reduced fee. Until then I was surprised how few guys there were. After 11 pm it was full of bears. Not enough girls to go around but I was done by midnight and left when I'd paid my very reasonable 25 euros bar bill. Good club, LU is strong in my opinion. I'll definitely go back. Rooms good, food good despite the wait, but most of all. The LU was excellent. There were quite a few girls I would go back for who I didn't get to try.
Thanks for the review, PFI.
That Ada sounds like a train wreck but good for you for standing your ground and hopping back in the saddle again with another girl.
Curious to why you paid 65 for entry. Thought Delta said entry including all food and drinks was 50 euro now.
edit - checked website and it says 50 AND 65 entry.
[QUOTE=PayForIt;1881209]Snip. Checked into Hotel Van Der Valk. Says it is an airport hotel but was 15 euros cab ride from the airport! Lovely hotel. Decided to walk to Oceans. Bit mistake. The walk is down gravel track behind industrial buildings for 1. 2 km. It was early evening but it was so isolated that it didn't feel safe. Surrounded by only trees and as it happened nobody came by. I'm fairly well built and can handle myself but if the wrong company ventured down this path it would be tricky. Nothing happened but for anyone thinking of staying at this lovely hotel and walking to Oceans. Don't! It's 9 euros in a cab (got one back! Worth it. Snip.[/QUOTE]Next time walk along Theodorstrassse. It is a trafficked street, although a little longer at 1. 6 km than the gravel path. Or you can stay at the (B&B) Hotel Dusseldorf Airport, which is only 650 meters from Oceans walking along Theodorstrasse.
[QUOTE=PayForIt;1881209] She looked positively shocked!
[/QUOTE]Thats bc only the most powerful jedis would dare to walk that road, LOL.
Hard for me to understand why you gave the girl 20 e for nothing.
Anyway thanks for the report! Great read.
[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;1881278]Next time walk along Theodorstrassse. It is a trafficked street, although a little longer at 1. 6 km than the gravel path. Or you can stay at the (B&B) Hotel Dusseldorf Airport, which is only 650 meters from Oceans walking along Theodorstrasse.[/QUOTE]Many thanks Jimmy. I'll definitely do that next time if I don't stay at the be&be. Appreciate the help.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;1881248]Curious to why you paid 65 for entry. Thought Delta said entry including all food and drinks was 50 euro now.
edit - checked website and it says 50 AND 65 entry.[/QUOTE]For 50€ entry it looks like you've got to blag your way in by pretending to be German. (But don't Gordon Jackson it).
So. Having left the smoke filled / really poor LU of Living Room (see post in that thread) vowing never to return, decided I'd venture back to Oceans having really enjoyed my Tuesday evening there. Thursday was even better.
The LU was very impressive indeed. Far more girls than on Tuesday by 8 pm. Cab had dropped me off at Ford garage following Jimmy Boys tip on how to approach when walking. Result was 65 entry instead of 80 the guy in front of me paid who said he'd come by cab. Ordered my now customary schweinesteak with wedges. Lovely. Bit of a wait - but fine.
Nice glass of red wine and surveyed the LU. Really very impressive and clearly better than not only LR (which IMHO was appallingly bad) but better also than Oase last night. It is also a much newer, nicer, bigger club. Spent 30 minutes in the infused sauna. Terrific. Out into the excellent dampfraum with hosed in cold water. Lovely touch. I hour fantastic professional massage with a Brazilian lady. Excellent.
Got a beer and approached a girl I'd seen whilst eating. Very tall in her crazy high shoes, dark shoulder length hair. Black top with silver bra and black shorts. I had not been sure she was a WG. Now she is sat at the bar and it is clear she is working. Amazing natural D cup boobs but nonetheless a very athletic girl.... as I and others were about to discover. She tells me she will come to the room (I'd not hesitated) after she had danced. What? Lap dance? No. Pole dancing on stage. She was incredible! Kept all the clothes on but she had the audience mesmerised with her manoeuvres and strength. Several times she dropped head first from the very top of the pole and looked like smashing her face on the bottom of it only to grab the pole inches before the ground.
Her lovely pert ass, muscles in her thighs, calves and stomach were clear. This girl is strong and stunning. She finished her routine to a rapturous round of applause from all who witnessed it. She comes straight over to me, tells me she needs a shower but to wait for her. 15 minutes later she bounces out in a slightly different but still black outfit looking 10/10. Face is maybe 8-9 / 10. Body is amazing. Her name is Lucy. We joke about her being in the sky (on the pole) and her diamonds (stud in lip). Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds etc.
Really nice personality. I needed no persuasion. I like long rooms with the right girl. Boy was she right. 2 hours later, after a couple of beers and a Baileys for her (yes it was 25 euros which is crazy but I wanted her happy. Her service level was off the scale). Her BBBJ is expertly provided. Great difference of speeds, lots of teasing. Her athleticism on the pole showed in the room. Multiple positions. We took a 5 minute break from it all after the first hour. Confirmed I definitely wanted another hour. In fact I'd have taken 4 had I had the stamina.
Great overall service. Her strength in her legs and versatility all are used in the room. Before we went in she told me she wanted to be very clear. No kissing. Not even LFK. No CIM and no anal. The latter two I don't do. The no kissing was an issue and I told her so. She made clear that she doesn't kiss any client and despite my listerined fresh minty smelling mouth she was not willing to reconsider. I'd normally refuse but couldn't. Her tits and body are just 10/10. 2 fantastic hours, great chemistry, lots of game playing. No attempt to upsell at all. She'd have been fine if I'd said only 30 minutes.
I cannot recommend this girl (Lucy) highly enough. For the big tit brigade on ISG she is a must. Full firm naturals.
And just when I thought my night couldn't get any better, when checking out and paying my bar bill, I confirmed I'd had a great night, that I really like this club and it is now in my top 3 (Artemis and Sakura being the others but I think Oceans has the edge), and what did she do? She drags out a bunch of free entry tickets! Given that they are worth 65 euros each to me I shall make sure I use them over coming months. How very nice of her.
Oceans is on a completely different level to Living Room. If you are coming to Dusseldorf don't even ponder it. Oceans is the winner in every sense. Great club / nice staff / great wellness facilities / large but spartan outdoor area / great food / and most importantly. A great LU. And whilst Lucy is there it is my club of choice.
If you thought LU was great because of Lucy, I dunno. LOL. She's ex-Aca, been around. D-cups, flat ass. 9-10? I don't think so. LOL.
Besides she not being my type, never been interested in going with her. Never even talked to her and I could sense her vibes from a mile away.
You keep mentioning Artemis like it's heaven on earth. Service sucks there. Same for Madrid.
Pfi says lr not so great ref Oceans apart while others claims it rly good. So what to blv?
Guess I have to check it out myself 😊
[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1882160]If you thought LU was great because of Lucy, I dunno. LOL. She's ex-Aca, been around. D-cups, flat ass. 9-10? I don't think so. LOL.
Besides she not being my type, never been interested in going with her. Never even talked to her and I could sense her vibes from a mile away.
You keep mentioning Artemis like it's heaven on earth. Service sucks there. Same for Madrid.[/QUOTE]I wouldn't base a LU on one girl. I did really like her and her service was top draw. If that's a flat ass that went up and down that pole you must love your latinas! It's the usual thing here PL. We all have different tastes and that's great.
The LU apart from Lucy was strong for me. Whereas in LR there were only 2 girls I'd have roomed with there were at least 8 or 9 at Oceans.
Yep I like Artemis as I've had my best times in FKK clubs there, and the one time I went to Sakura. I cannot disagree more on our assessment of service at Artemis. Debby / Vegas / Laora / Joanna there have all given me some excellent 2 hour+ sessions and are really nice girls. I do accept that Artemis is sharky but my experience of service levels there is high.
You posted in Madrid an excellent report. I elevated it to the reports of distinction thread on Madrid as it is a superb reference for anyone going there.
Again our experiences dffer vastly. I've been to all of those clubs you visited in Madrid. Some more than others but several very often. I've largely had great service with some notable exceptions. I also don't tend to think you can link service levels with clubs or location. For me that's about the girl. Service levels are considered poor in Paradise Stuttgart I think - but the blonde girl I took when last there was good. Conversely I think Sharks gets a big write up on FKK threads but my sessions there have largely been disappointing - but my guess is I picked the wrong girls.
I will be the first to say that I am picky and not easily pleased. But whatever vibe you got off Lucy I can tell you that she was very friendly before, during and after the room and very much wanted to please. But if she's not your type then of course you won't try her. Nothing wrong with that. As they say - "one man's trash is another's treasure".
[QUOTE=Exodus8;1882243]Pfi says lr not so great ref Oceans apart while others claims it rly good. So what to blv?
Guess I have to check it out myself [/QUOTE]I think a lot of this is about what you like in the Club. If you smoke heavily LR will be fine for you. If you like small intimate clubs LR is ideal and Oceans would just seem like a huge impersonal nightclub. There was a definite party atmosphere last night with a lot of the girls dancing and of course the stage dancers.
Oceans is big and brash. Living room is a converted house and is small and not about glamour. As to LU this can fluctuate at any club of course. In 2014 Oase seemed king. Most would say Sharks 2015 (not me but I only went there a few times as each time was poor). On the evidence of my attendances this week alone at Oceans (x2), LR and Oase, Oceans had the most girls I'd go with.
All that said, my dislike of LR (particularly that smoke filled room going into the bar) means I'd avoid it now even if the LU was reportedly good.
I paid 110 euros in cabs to go to LR whereas I could walk to Oceans from my hotel. I did so because of recent favourable reports. I'm afraid that was an expensive mistake on my part. Try both out and please do report your own take on both LR and Oceans. That is, after all, what this forum is all about. Information and experience sharing and expressions of opinions.
Thanks PFI!
Seems like Oceans would be my cup of tea. Will prolly locate myself in FRA and take a day trip to check out LR and Oceans.
[QUOTE=Exodus8;1882270]Thanks PFI!
Seems like Oceans would be my cup of tea. Will prolly locate myself in FRA and take a day trip to check out LR and Oceans.[/QUOTE]Check out TankTanks latest report on LR which confirms mine last night and is also very funny!
I partially agree on PFI latest impressions, based on a couple of recent visits. Service requirements clearly differ, as confirmed by his preference for Artemis and his pickings. Lucy ex Aca is not my cup of tea (and nowhere near 9 or 10 points for optics), and I could not imagine spending more than 30 minutes in the room with any girl who does not allow every part of my body into any part of her body, so 2 hours without even kissing sounds really painful to me.
But yes, Oceans is nowadays (finally) worth considering: PFI did not underline the most important (for me) feature, which is highly increased number of non romanian girls. Met and counted more than 20 (at least), which is really a lot in this hard evil times.
All sessions I had were good to very good thanks to careful pickings, I noticed some sharking going on, both with sober and non-sober guests, but nothing too extreme (Oase or Artemis or Paradise are worse for newbies).
Met a few ex GT girls (Emma, Ines, Jenny, Minelle), also other ex's (like Oase's Jennifer from "Madriducarest")
So no reason not to take a dip in the oceans, considering also reasonable food offer, occasional stage shows, fine sauna, nice rooms, but you must get over the negatives (some of which are subjective, of course) : night club / disco atmosphere, loud / very loud disco music, loud blatant crowd mainly turks, very dark lounge, gets quite full on weekends (possible waiting times).
I'd only visit 6-7 pm onwards, not sure if it's a good option for early visits (despite free entry until 2 pm) LU may be very thin.
Entry price: apart from the 80 e taxi scam (which IMHO nobody should ever give in to), no idea why anybody should pay 65 e entry, the current advertised prices are 50 with foods (usual dumb menu system) and soft drinks, or 30 e without. Free entry 12-2 pm.
[QUOTE=PayForIt;1882261]I wouldn't base a LU on one girl. I did really like her and her service was top draw. If that's a flat ass that went up and down that pole you must love your latinas! It's the usual thing here PL. We all have different tastes and that's great.
The LU apart from Lucy was strong for me. Whereas in LR there were only 2 girls I'd have roomed with there were at least 8 or 9 at Oceans.
Yep I like Artemis as I've had my best times in FKK clubs there, and the one time I went to Sakura. I cannot disagree more on our assessment of service at Artemis. Debby / Vegas / Laora / Joanna there have all given me some excellent 2 hour+ sessions and are really nice girls. I do accept that Artemis is sharky but my experience of service levels there is high.
You posted in Madrid an excellent report. I elevated it to the reports of distinction thread on Madrid as it is a superb reference for anyone going there.
Again our experiences dffer vastly. I've been to all of those clubs you visited in Madrid. Some more than others but several very often. I've largely had great service with some notable exceptions. I also don't tend to think you can link service levels with clubs or location. For me that's about the girl. Service levels are considered poor in Paradise Stuttgart I think - but the blonde girl I took when last there was good. Conversely I think Sharks gets a big write up on FKK threads but my sessions there have largely been disappointing - but my guess is I picked the wrong girls.
I will be the first to say that I am picky and not easily pleased. But whatever vibe you got off Lucy I can tell you that she was very friendly before, during and after the room and very much wanted to please. But if she's not your type then of course you won't try her. Nothing wrong with that. As they say - "one man's trash is another's treasure".[/QUOTE]The main reason why I went to Madrid was to check out the LU to see if there was really as great as reported. I got to say I came out disappointed, although I got all the answers before I went so was aware of besides the subjective aspect of it. For me the most disappointing thing was talk about the LU being that great. One of my pet peaves (and for others as well) is LU not being not up to how much it's been talked up.
So when I look at reports, there are certain elements I pay attention to since it's important that I don't waste my time on a place I regret visiting. Lately there has been no real consistency here. Even few years back there were consistency with reports so it was easier to go by reports, but that seem to have changed. The scene has taken a down-turn IMO.
There probably are girls that provides good services at Artemis (although not anybody I would say I've met that I would call outstanding as few I've met at various places over the years). I've attended the club quite rarely due to the location. If I'm dedicated many days for a trip, I find it most advantageous to choose regions that are concentrated with clubs for alternatives and see much greater number of girls. I'm in De to visit the clubs.
There are two things that leave a good impression on a club visit. Either outstanding service from a single girl or high percentage of good services (or of course all outstanding services. LOL). The greater the number of sessions I do at a club, better idea of service expectations. I pick the most attractive girls at the club and come out with stats. If I find that my picks turned out to be mostly lower than avg experiences I've had, the club would be on the bottom of the list of places I'the revisit. Of course this can be mitigated with lots of stand-out girls, but I don't see that happening anywhere from what I'm seeing at the clubs lately. This goes for Artemis too. I've had visits LU wasn't worth it, taken 1 girl on a visit. My latest visit I've taken 5 girls. 4 girls were girls I wouldn't even consider ok service, were quite mediocre. 1 girl I would consider good, but business like interaction lowered the overall experience. I think I did so many sessions because I was hopeful in running into a good session there. Nope, nobody memorable.
A outstanding visit is if I run into a girl I hit the club no matter what the rest of the LU is. My experience is that real outstanding encounters weren't some consistantly reported girls. It's that one outstanding girl you run into somewhere randomly at various spots. Hence I club hop since there has been those experiences in the past. These are the type of girls that really spoils you and puts a perspective in what is good services.
[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1882656]For me the most disappointing thing was talk about the LU being that great. One of my pet peaves (and for others as well) is LU not being not up to how much it's been talked up.[/QUOTE]A strange peeve to have. You're disappointed that PFI scores the line-up higher than you.
I don't think you've registered what is written. Disappointed if seeing the LU that is rated highly, but not.
[QUOTE=Samplerr;1882777]A strange peeve to have. You're disappointed that PFI scores the line-up higher than you.[/QUOTE]I don't think PL was disappointed that I found the Oceans LU better than he does. I think his point was that it can be annoying when you read reports on these threads and make plans based upon them only to then be very disappointed when you get to a venue and think "what was that guy talking about on that thread. The LU here is awful".
But I'm afraid that can be due to many factors. The night of the week is one. Some girls don't work particular nights. I found the LU at Oceans good on last Tuesday. On Thursday, for me, it was stronger. In the Oase thread guys often base decisions on whether Eliz Hungary will be present. Certainly I have done so and I can see from posts in that thread that others do too. It might also be dependent on holidays (e. G. Recent Orthodox Easter), or even unusual factors. E. g. Recent raid at Artemis must have impacted on LU.
What is a better guide is when several people in threads all appear to comment on the strength of the LU. You would think that then they cannot all be wrong. But this does still not account for one final but critical factor: personal taste. PL had read LU at Vive in Madrid is exceptional. Having been there many times I can confirm that though it is expensive (a different issue) the LU at Vive is generally the best I've come across anywhere in the World and I've mongered in quite a lot of countries East and West, and in both hemispheres. The high prices attract some very good looking girls indeed.
Eliz Hungary (Oase) is a very pretty girl facially to most punters. But her tits would not be naked in Vive and her body is not slim or athletic enough and I think she'd struggle there. Most mongers who go to Vive think it boasts a very strong LU. Not just with so many stunning women but the other factor there is the very wide diversity of types and nationalities. There are a lot of South American latinas in Vive. There are Africans, Asians, Chinese, Spanish, Russians, Moroccans, Turkish, some Americans, and I've met English girls there in addition of course the usual high number of Eastern europeans. PL didn't fancy it much. I cannot recall how many times he has been. But if he doesn't like it there (or in other Spanish clubs) that is his prerogative.
But it does not follow that because he didn't like the LU that it is not strong. It is only strong or not strong in his opinion and we all express those in these threads (rightly so). Most mongers who go there would, IMHO, find the LU incredibly strong. I have never seen a LU as strong in any FKK on the now many times I've visited them and I've now been to 12 FKK clubs over the last 4 years on a fairly regular basis.
I think PL is influenced by my comments on Artemis and my glowing assessment of Lucy at Oceans. Taking those two points in turn, as I've said many times, I've had my best FKK sessions ever in Artemis and I'm picky on looks and service. There are lots of sharks there to avoid but for me there are always some real gems. I've never left the club having been really disappointed. Contrast that with Living Room this week which, at least on the day / night I attended was truly awful. Tanktank agreed but then others like the LU. Which I find really odd based on my visit. Artemis for me has a strong LU most of the time. Hessen Bub recently said the two clubs he's least be bothered about if they closed are Artemis and Sakura. I disagreed and thought they were (until I'd been to Oceans) my two favourite clubs! He isn't wrong. I'm not right. It's just differences of opinions. I'd certainly put Oceans in my top three now based upon my 2 visits there last week. It could change - the LU changes. On my first visit in 2014 to Sharks it was my favourite club of the Hessen clubs. My last 2 visits there have really been poor and I find the overall facilities at other clubs much better. In fact, other than the outdoors at Oase I don't really like any of the Hessen clubs. But others think they are tops!
Then on to the Lucy issue and whether she has made me think Oceans LU is strong. Of course not! The LU is not one girl! Nobody shares my assessment of her looks. To be entirely balanced about this, I do accept that facially she would not compete with some younger girls. But it wasn't just her face. It was how she looked overall. Her black outfit was fantastic and really showed off her fabulous natural tits. Her performance on that pole with her muscles in her legs gripping was terrific, sexy, and enticing. Then her service in the room was really first class. I agree that not being able to kiss for 2 hours would normally be a real negative. No point in suggesting otherwise. But she more than made up for it with terrific attitude and abilities for me. I would (and will) go back just to repeat with her and I was pleased to take her mobile to organise doing so. She is only the second FKK girl I've asked for a number (in contrast to more than 20 girls in Vive and Scandalo (Malaga)).
But it wasn't (as I've said) just about Lucy. The LU on Thursday was, for me, very impressive. in an earlier post i'd picked out at least 4 other girls there on Thursday and I also thought there were several good options on Tuesday - when Lucy wasn't there. There were plenty of girls on Thursday I would like to room with but couldn't as I was literally shattered after my two amazing hours with Lucy. Again, as also mentioned by one other commentator on this thread, a big factor for me in assessing the LU / options was the diversity in this club on nationalities. I'm all in favour of "I don't care where they come from if they are pretty" but it is also nice to sample other spices! One EE girl after another can get very repetitive. I liked the options at Oceans and I very much liked the club, it's layout, wellness facilities and food. The club has taken a pounding in the past about it's poor LU, pricing policies etc. But 65 entry did not seem bad to me compared to 70 at Oase, 80 at Artemis and worse. 60 for the smoke shed which is Living Room. I think entry at LR should be free and it still wouldn't get me back there given that smoke.
I think my final thought on LU is to echo what Exodus8 recently posted:
[QUOTE=Exodus8;1882243]Pfi says lr not so great ref Oceans apart while others claims it rly good. So what to blv?
Guess I have to check it out myself[/QUOTE].
He's right. There is no substitute for it. Relying on views in threads is only worth so much. The YMMV adage applies to clubs as much as it does to girls.
Well, I agree there are some hype to Sharks (not surprising given it's ISG, same goes for Artemis, there are other forums out there too PFI), but it is one of the better clubs out there currently. Realistically I wouldn't call the LU poor, but I've had several visits now that I didn't find the LU that I've done so many sessions there as of late. Geneally, it's a good balace of looks in service in the Hessen area, but doesn't mean the LU is tops so I understand what you mean PFI.
Even Madrid optiks is not better than De IMO. There are still varied opinions about the place. If I make some logical assumptions, I should have seen the warning sign when I was told it's comparable to Palace. Palace being a baseline would be a reason to think it's not my type of venue. Typically there is a link between guys likeing Artemis and Palace. Certain taste in girl types, although I do not see much link for Madrid as girls are mainly dressed. It's service too, although limited at Vive, but I think enough at Madrid as a whole wasn't up to par. Matter a fact, same stats as recent visit to Artemis!
I have varied taste in girls. I like a variety of LU, but what Vive has to offer isn't the type of variety I look for. I'm more in for EEs, CEs, and mid-eastern (persian, mediterranian looks). No doubt that there are great looking Latinas my type, but I ended up with Romies at Vive. So that does dive into my taste in girl relatively to what Vive has to offer.
For me prettiness isn't everything. It's more complex than that. There are many variables that goes into a what I consider a good time with a girl, and of course I can't leave out looks. No doubt that guys that pay so much money to attend these clubs would prize looks of girls.
PFI, I certainly hope Oceans as improved as far as the LU. There were guys that talked up Oceans in the past, but that was around the time I gave the club a try, and didn't think the LU was all that cracked up to be, so I have doubts, and only way to break it is visit. There were talks of GT girls showing up or whatnot (and initially), but my visits, nobody in particular I took note of at GT. What I've seen is some ex-Aca girls, and so ex-other club girls there.
Question for those folks that is familiar with the club. How many girls are there during the daytime, and when does the LU peak in the evening? I ask because there has been reports that girls don't show up until late at night, dunno if that still goes on. So, Tuesday is an ok day to visit? Not slow? Magnum this is true, it's bare during the day. Any experts out there can give good info on time to visit, and days, and what to expect. I'm particularly more into these types of info rather than LU info due to it being subjective.
After you've been to enough venues, you may have realized that clubs have girl your types would make a difference. Some stand-out girls you run into some club you visit makes the difference.
[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1883070] I wouldn't call the LU poor, but I've had several visits now that I didn't find the LU that I've done so many sessions there as of late. [/QUOTE]How often did you visit Sharks in the last 4 weeks?
HB.
I will officially state that Oceans has arrived on the must see club list. There are some nice girls here. I was disappointed not bumping into my busty petite Sharon again but lots of new ones to be seen. Be warned that after midnight on Saturday could get quite busy, full of Turks. I'd arrive at 7-8 pm since most of the girls were present already. My first visit was on a Monday and still good. As long as service is kept to a high quality this club is here to stay.
Bumped into a guy who was at GT and LR last night and he preferred the Oceans lineup. Both he and I have no Lucy bias on our opinions.
Food was disappointing. Had some BBQ chicken breast with french fries as part of my 50 euro package. Let's be clear that the entry is 30 without food or drink or 50 with limited food choices and pop. There is a big sign at the entry way with these prices. DO NOT pay 65 euro.
The garden is open. Not large but very nice. Great place to chill with the girls.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;1883106] Let's be clear that the entry is 30 without food or drink or 50 with limited food choices and pop. There is a big sign at the entry way with these prices. DO NOT pay 65 euro.
[/QUOTE]I think that is new price and also on their website. It says also that there is free entry from 12 to 14, but the reception told me that it is not for tourists, so I paid 50 for the full option. With the full option you also get discount on the paid meal.
[QUOTE=ShahKhan;1883323] free entry from 12 to 14, but the reception told me that it is not for tourists, so I paid 50 for the full option.l.[/QUOTE]Wow. Not for tourists. Classic rip off. Doesn't say anything about that on the homepage:
12 – 14 Uhr: Eintritt frei inkl. FRühstücks- und Mittagsbuffet.
(free entry incl. Breakfast & lunch buffet).
Are softdrinks free when using the free entrance option?
HB.
HB.
[QUOTE=HessenBub;1883333]Wow. Not for tourists. Classic rip off. Doesn't say anything about that on the homepage:
12 14 Uhr: Eintritt frei inkl. FRhstcks- und Mittagsbuffet.
(free entry incl. Breakfast & lunch buffet).
Are softdrinks free when using the free entrance option?
HB.
HB.[/QUOTE]Yeah they should add "nicht für Sextouristen" to their homepage, LOL.
Wonder how they are going to tell who are tourists in the first place. Based on whether the person speaks german and / or been there before?
Damn I got to start refresh my german from high school don't want to get ripped off by clubs and wgs alike, haha.
[QUOTE=ShahKhan;1883323]I think that is new price and also on their website. It says also that there is free entry from 12 to 14, but the reception told me that it is not for tourists, so I paid 50 for the full option. With the full option you also get discount on the paid meal.[/QUOTE]The English version of the website still contains the outdated reference to the 65 Euro cover charge.
[QUOTE=HessenBub;1883078]How often did you visit Sharks in the last 4 weeks?
HB.[/QUOTE]Don't be too surprised, Pussy likes to let the world know that he has an opinion on everything.
[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1882634]With no report to support your claims is like saying LU is better for NO REASON. With Lucy being pointed out as the crown jewel I have doubts.
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[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1882360]IMO LR's LU ain't bad, better than RTCs or Aca Gold. I don't think Oceans is better. [/QUOTE]So let me see if I got it. 3000 posts, 99% without trip reports but lots of verbose opinions on every possible club and subject (which is fine, there is free bandwidth enough for everybody here on ISG), but you challange other posters that just dropped a comment on Oceans praising the LU based on recent visits, arguing that THEY didn't do a report, just because you don't find Lucy attractive and because you "have doubts" and you "don't think" the LU is good, based on. On what? Nobody knows.
[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1882634]For me it's simple with none of that potential nonsense.[/QUOTE]If you do not see any difference in LU potential and in clientele between RTC clubs and regular clubs like LR or Oceans, well. Then I'm afraid I will have to lower the credibility of your useful "trip reports" another tad down.
[QUOTE=ShahKhan;1883323]I think that is new price and also on their website. It says also that there is free entry from 12 to 14, but the reception told me that it is not for tourists, so I paid 50 for the full option. With the full option you also get discount on the paid meal.[/QUOTE]Wow, not for tourists, this is hilarious. Guys please don't give in to this scams, just insist that you know the pricing and you been there done that before, if the receptionists insists just ask to speak with some manager and you they will understand.
Shame on Oceans management for trying, anyway.
Well, I'm chilling at Oceans right now after having had one session in the room with a really sexy tanned blonde stunner on about 1. 60 (Raia, says she's serbian). She came of as having a bit of a sharky attitude trying to sell herself together with her friend. But I talked them easily out of that idea. She had a bit of a dominatrix personality about her in the room while at the same time being very cute faced (25 yrs old). Clearly her favorite position seemed to be doggy, but she was also good on top. BJ requires some extra training. So far she is the top girl I've seen here by far, and the only 9. Although I've spotted two 8's as well. A blonde slim girl who could be german, and a tall bulgarian (or that's what she claimed).
Then again I have a feeling 90% of the girls here are romanian, but they lie about it. LOL. (Just got it confirmed by some romanian girl: everyoje here is romanian except one german girl)
I like the atmosphere here, but still a bit quiet before 6 pm.
[QUOTE=Dutedrac;1883395]Guys please don't give in to this scams, just insist that you know the pricing ...[/QUOTE]I got bad vibes at Ocean on my 1st and up to now only visit because of their pricing policy. What I'm reading here right now is not encouraging me to give Oceans a 2nd chance. I'm accustomed to the entry price to an FKK being all-inclusive (and of course being as advertised).
[QUOTE=Pistons;1883432]Well, I'm chilling at Oceans right now after having had one session in the room with a really sexy tanned blonde stunner on about 1. 60 (Raia, says she's serbian). She came of as having a bit of a sharky attitude trying to sell herself together with her friend. But I talked them easily out of that idea. She had a bit of a dominatrix personality about her in the room while at the same time being very cute faced (25 yrs old). Clearly her favorite position seemed to be doggy, but she was also good on top. BJ requires some extra training. So far she is the top girl I've seen here by far, and the only 9. Although I've spotted two 8's as well. A blonde slim girl who could be german, and a tall bulgarian (or that's what she claimed).
Then again I have a feeling 90% of the girls here are romanian, but they lie about it. LOL. (Just got it confirmed by some romanian girl: everyoje here is romanian except one german girl)
I like the atmosphere here, but still a bit quiet before 6 pm.[/QUOTE]
At least 75% of them are romanian, regardless of what they say, and that is of course a lot. Maybe on a Sunday the % is even higher (it was for sure not higher recently on a Saturday).
If you care about their nationality (like me) and you are experienced enough, it's not so hard to tell. If you don't care, then no issue, right?
[QUOTE=HessenBub;1883333]Wow. Not for tourists. Classic rip off. Doesn't say anything about that on the homepage:
12 14 Uhr: Eintritt frei inkl. FRhstcks- und Mittagsbuffet.
(free entry incl. Breakfast & lunch buffet).
Are softdrinks free when using the free entrance option?
HB.
HB.[/QUOTE]Girls on desk are not honest in that club, I don't like to be fucked by WGs, I don't want to be fucked by Oceans desk girls, I don't go with WGs I don't trust, I don't go in clubs I don't trust, but so many other girls and clubs. Once, I forgot to wait for money back at GT because I was speaking with my girl, theke ran after me in lockers to give me 40€ back.
Talked to another romanian now who said 80-90% were romanian. Although I am deffinately within the camp who doesn't care much where they come from.
[QUOTE=Pistons;1883447]Talked to another romanian now who said 80-90% were romanian. Although I am deffinately within the camp who doesn't care much where they come from.[/QUOTE]Hello Pistons.
The percentage could actually be even higher if you factor in all the Romanian girls who claim to be from Spain, Italy, and Greece. I know if I am not meeting a Romanian girl in a FKK, I am not meeting anybody at all. It makes it difficult for me to collect more flags.
FiddyCent.
So far this is turning out to be a one girl starfish club. Out of the 4 sessions I've seen walking towards the rooms the past 90 minutes (mine included), all were with the same girl. Got to wonder what the other girls at the club is thinking.
I've never seen anything as polarized in an fkk or Macau sauna before ever... and I've visited macau saunas just as much as fkks...
[QUOTE=Pistons;1883455]So far this is turning out to be a one girl starfish club. Out of the 4 sessions I've seen walking towards the rooms the past 90 minutes (mine included), all were with the same girl. Got to wonder what the other girls at the club is thinking.
I've never seen anything as polarized in an fkk or Macau sauna before ever... and I've visited macau saunas just as much as fkks...[/QUOTE]Hello Pistons.
I have only been to Oceans once, way back on Day two of the club's existence. I have always believed that the problem of the club for the girls is the layout of the couches. The setup is much more like an ampitheater than a club for mingling. The girls who sit at the bar keep to themselves. The rest of the couches are stretched out the full length of the club. The mirror ball and lighting also creates a nightclub atmosphere, but is terrible when you want to make eye contact with a girl.
This could be a problem for other girls who try to work the floor. I got the same impression you when I was there. Most girls looked bored and frustrated, when only one or two of the same girls keep getting the clients. It is, as you say, the top girls at the Macau Sauna clubs keep getting chosen, while the rest of the girl parade just smiles, says thank you boss and heads back into the back room.
FiddyCent.
Great, we're getting more impressions of the club. More reports the better I say.
[QUOTE=Dutedrac;1883388] So let me see if I got it. 3000 posts, 99% without trip reports but lots of verbose opinions on every possible club and subject (which is fine, there is free bandwidth enough for everybody here on ISG), but you challange other posters that just dropped a comment on Oceans praising the LU based on recent visits, arguing that THEY didn't do a report, just because you don't find Lucy attractive and because you "have doubts" and you "don't think" the LU is good, based on. On what? Nobody knows.[/QUOTE]Yes, and nothing wrong with some challenge, no? I think is healthy discussion to bring in light of things otherwise not mentioned.
The point is doubt based on a girl brought up I know from another club Aca, and all my visits she was present, and pointing her to be exemplary of a report, is the reason for me to have doubts. It would be different if many other girls were brought up, sessioned, and analysis of the services and opiks level. Which I haven't read from your report or should I say opinion?
I do provide reports of various visits (mainly for clubs that are lacking in reports), and you will find that my reports do include several girls tried (that is if in my visits I've gone with enough girls). My last GT (SixSens and YY) reports do exemplifies that. 5-6 girls to provide some evidence of my picks, and what I thought of the LU on my visits. Which I thought was good due to good to great sessions with the girls I picked. My reports do have opinions based on what I've witnessed and girls sessioned. Hence, my opinions do have something to back it up if I do put out opinions.
I have not read any of that sort from you besides some banter on what is better (which is an opinion by the way, no real truth to it, which we all have, but you do insist it like the truth. LOL.), or some disasters somewhere. Or some pigtailing about girls that get brought up every so often. So, basically you have no credibility as far as I'm concerned.
Sure, you can list some GT girls that showed up there, and say LU is better, but no reason for me to take your opinion any seriously.
After reading many of your OPINIONS around here, your credibility really drops (at least from me), it's due to silly nature of your opinions. Typical pattern of your posts. 90% typical Romies (which the reality that it's prevelant now), Romies service are fake GFE, Romies are worse services. Germans fuck like animals. Non-Romies are better service providers, whip out some random percentages, food sucks everywhere, and list goes on.. Basically, opinions without anything to back it up. Basically, all your posts are just statements without anything to back up your reasoning. And you do make generalizing remarks about clubs without mentioning any girls or that nature.
I find these opinions to be pretty useless since they don't bring light of anything. So, until the say I read a decent analysis of a club from you, there's no reason for me to take your word for it.
[QUOTE=FiddyCent;1883466]Hello Pistons.
I have only been to Oceans once, way back on Day two of the club's existence. I have always believed that the problem of the club for the girls is the layout of the couches. The setup is much more like an ampitheater than a club for mingling. The girls who sit at the bar keep to themselves. The rest of the couches are stretched out the full length of the club. The mirror ball and lighting also creates a nightclub atmosphere, but is terrible when you want to make eye contact with a girl.
This could be a problem for other girls who try to work the floor. I got the same impression you when I was there. Most girls looked bored and frustrated, when only one or two of the same girls keep getting the clients. It is, as you say, the top girls at the Macau Sauna clubs keep getting chosen, while the rest of the girl parade just smiles, says thank you boss and heads back into the back room.
FiddyCent.[/QUOTE]Well I kinda like the layout. It enables me to relax and not run around looking for the one girl I want to go with. And I've had my fair share of eye contact already, so absolutely no problems there. But the one thing is perhaps that it makes it harder for the less attractive girls, and optics wins more often than at clubs with a different layout.
Thankfully a few other 7-8's (and maybe a 9) appeared now, so it won't be as skewed. Or lets see.
[QUOTE=Pistons;1883473]Well I kinda like the layout. It enables me to relax and not run around looking for the one girl I want to go with. And I've had my fair share of eye contact already, so absolutely no problems there. But the one thing is perhaps that it makes it harder for the less attractive girls, and optics wins more often than at clubs with a different layout.
Thankfully a few other 7-8's (and maybe a 9) appeared now, so it won't be as skewed. Or lets see.[/QUOTE]So, Pistons I am reading more and more positive reviews for this club. Perhaps they have turned the corner and is now a destination club for us mongers. To me, there were many problems during the club's early days. A revisit may be in the cards, but I do have other options. I will weigh the +'s and -'s before making my final decision. They did finally figure out the proper pricing structure for entry and services.
Don't get me wrong, I really liked the posh feel of the club, but I did think the mirror ball and lighting ambiance really distracted me from being able to make the necessary eye contact.
Keep up the good reporting.
FiddyCent.
Well Palace also has a mirror ball, and so did Artemis (or is it still there). Personally I don't notice them after awhile. The column that changes light attracts far more attention in my view though.
My problem so far with the club is that they have the same food structure Oase had 2 years ago, which made me dispise that club. Thankfully they removed it after lots of negative feedback regarding it. So I'm not sure so far, but I love the ambience, and a few girls here are very sexy.
If you arrive before 2 pm you get to eat all you can though, so then its ok if you can do that, but it still has lots of negatives to it. I arrived at 3. 30, and thankfully I got me a big kebab before I arrived. Met a local from düsseldorf sitting next to me on the bus from Frankfurt earlier today who gave me some pointers on where to eat...
[QUOTE=Dutedrac;1883388]Don't be too surprised, Pussy likes to let the world know that he has an opinion on everything.
So let me see if I got it. 3000 posts, 99% without trip reports but lots of verbose opinions on every possible club and subject (which is fine, there is free bandwidth enough for everybody here on ISG), but you challange other posters that just dropped a comment on Oceans praising the LU based on recent visits, arguing that THEY didn't do a report, just because you don't find Lucy attractive and because you "have doubts" and you "don't think" the LU is good, based on. On what? Nobody knows.
If you do not see any difference in LU potential and in clientele between RTC clubs and regular clubs like LR or Oceans, well. Then I'm afraid I will have to lower the credibility of your useful "trip reports" another tad down.[/QUOTE]I don't know PL, even I'm named like that by a German guy at Sharks, I respect guys who prefer German girls when I usually prefer Romanians, as a French guy visiting many clubs, I like freedom to write what we think, even always subjective feeling. Even I'm not the best for English, tolerance is part of cleverness for me, I just make my own opinion about clubs and girls and don't care about others experiences, because I know I'm different.
I think the whole lineup is here now, and in my mind there are 3 x 9 to 9+ girls in looks here. Thats more than most clubs have. And one girl between 8 and 9. And about 4 girls between 7 and 8. The rest 40-50 girls are not much to write home about. But you only care about the top 3-6 girls that you can do in one night anyway right? Only Oase has a comparable top 8 at the moment in my mind. Its above Artemis, Palace, Sharks and Paradise at least...
If lots of guys does 2 clubs in one night in nrw, then I don't see why Oceans shouldn't be one of them. But I wish we could complain so much about the food policy that they change it as they did at Oase.
The 3 girls I went with tonight was:
Raia: 10-/9+/8- (22 yrs, and 3 yrs in the business. 2 or 3 months at Oceans) She has a very sexy natural body shape, although not perfectly fit, its good genes. Fake blonde and nice tan makes her quite exotic yet with europeanish cute curves. The dominatrix room personality was perhaps a bit rushed in one or two positions, so that drags the performanxe down a little. She does so many rooms though that it must be hard for her to micromanage all her lovers, lol. Formerly a few clubs like Happy Garden and I didn't manage to guess the rest as she avoided the question a bit. Very flirty and smiling girl and a joy to have such a spreader of good atmosphere in the club. Deffinate repeat.
Carly: 8/10/10. (Maybe even 9 on face for some, or a different day/different hairstyle) Blonde 1. 60 (25 yrs old). Very sweet and charming girl with no rush. She was quite busy all night and I was quick when she was finally back after probably about 2 hours in the room prior to talking to me. Her body is in great shape. Petite, slim and with perky small curves and a siliconed be-cup. She just started working at Oceans 3 days ago after having worked at a club in southern Austria before. Personality and service wise she is top and very acrobatic and a little crazy the good way. And a good 10 in that regard. Deffinately repeat.
Andra: 9+/9-/9 Also very sweet petite blonde on about 1. 60 (as was all the 3 girls tonight). She hangs out a bit in the tents outside smoking. 20 years old and a very cute ageless kind of face / and well done makeup. Changes clothes a few times a night as well. She is very smiling and seems to be constantly happy. Very cuddly and warm personality in the room. She has worked at Magnum in the past, and 5 months at Oceans now. Maybe on a good day she is a 10 in service, and the body is perhaps just an 8 for some, but a solid repeat.
Also met a few other girls. Like a shy 19 year old named Sierra is also a 9 and 1. 60 blonde with a 10 face but perhaps a body on the slim side. But she was a bit too shy with me, and we didn't have that instant connection I got with the other 9's at the club. And one of the 8's named something like Andrast?(not perfectly spelled) with a cute face, brown hair and perhaps 1. 68-1. 70. I promised her a room session which I didn't live up to, so I felt a bit sad that I was not able to return next day. And she was gone after 11 or so. Or at least I didn't see her. Considered talking to some of the other 8's as well, and I think I said a few words to one of them, but forgot the names. Most of the 8s were a bit taller than the 9s. So 1.65-1.70, so some of you might have different score than I have too...
Not at all sure how many girls work at this club. Andra claimed there were 115 girls on Saturday while another girl said max 70 girls at any particular day. I don't think there were more than maximum 65 on this Sunday. Mostly turkish clientelle with some east asians and a few africans. Wiered it hasnt attracted more germans since the club is really good with the top girls being a true joy.
The club changes atmosphere when the bulk of the girls arrive at 6.30-7.30, and the mingling starts. Even on a sunday most rooms downstairs by the entrance were full and on my last 2 sessions there was only one available room there.
Ps: I know my scores seem high, but it was really an outstanding triple I had this night...
[QUOTE=FiddyCent;1883491]
Don't get me wrong, I really liked the posh feel of the club, but I did think the mirror ball and lighting ambiance really distracted me from being able to make the necessary eye contact.[/QUOTE]At least the disco light adds some light. It is Very dark inside Oceans unless you're near the kitchen, front entrance, or near the garden. Go there with some sunlight so you can see the girls clearly.
Oceans after midnight may not be for some. Turns into more of a night club feel than a FKK. I enjoy it.
One note is that with the 30 euro entry now some of the Turks who come at 1 am are like the goons at Mondial.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;1883696]At least the disco light adds some light. It is Very dark inside Oceans unless you're near the kitchen, front entrance, or near the garden. Go there with some sunlight so you can see the girls clearly.
Oceans after midnight may not be for some. Turns into more of a night club feel than a FKK. I enjoy it..[/QUOTE]Indeed, Manele crazy bunsh for sure, and sometimes as much as 10 girls dancing on the podiums by the poles. Usually the less pretty ones who barely makes any rooms. Only one girl I talked to didn't like the Manele. Claimed she was polish. The only polish there this night, but normally they were 5.
[QUOTE=Dutedrac;1883395]Wow, not for tourists, this is hilarious. Guys please don't give in to this scams, just insist that you know the pricing and you been there done that before, if the receptionists insists just ask to speak with some manager and you they will understand.
Shame on Oceans management for trying, anyway.[/QUOTE]I know that was a scam, but I wanted the full option anyway because of drinks as I planned to stay long. And just for the record it was a man behind the desk.
I read some comparison between LR and Oceans line-up. My opinion is that Oceans (Saturday) had a far better line up than LR (Friday).
I think Oceans has a more varied lineup making it more appealing, not unlike why GT is more appealing than many Romanian dominated clubs. Overall Oceans lineup tops LR but for me and I suspect PL I will always find 2-3 cute little things at LR that will make us very happy.
Good service at LR is almost a guarantee as well. I've already heard stories from other guys I spoke with at Oceans that some of their sessions sucked bad or the girls were very pro. You won't hear that about LR girls.
Some parking advice. DO NOT park in the parking lot if you plan on staying late, even if there are spaces. You risk getting stuck in there depending on the space. Park on the street there's plenty of spots.
Once Oceans figures out it's pricing issues it will become a successful club. Who knows if the owners even know of these pricing issues. May be staff coercing to pocket extra cash from "tourists".
Of interest, I saw a bouncer sneak a Turkish guy in the club a stack of free pass coupons.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;1883801]I think Oceans has a more varied lineup making it more appealing, not unlike why GT is more appealing than many Romanian dominated clubs. Overall Oceans lineup tops LR but for me and I suspect PL I will always find 2-3 cute little things at LR that will make us very happy.[/QUOTE]So more short girls at LR? As opposed to perhaps 50/50 at Oceans?
[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1883468]
I have not read any of that sort from you besides some banter on what is better (which is an opinion by the way, no real truth to it, which we all have, but you do insist it like the truth. LOL.),
...
Basically, opinions without anything to back it up. Basically, all your posts are just statements without anything to back up your reasoning...[/QUOTE]Pussy, this is the usual rambling escaping the main point.
We all only give opinions and personal comments here. My view about romanian average service and sex behavior in general, like my view about features and potential of different clubs, is backed up by my personal experience, which is a lot, no need of anything else, no need to convince anybody, we are not trying to prove a mathematical theorem. You don't agree, or you don't value because not detailed reports? Who cares.
Main point is that my comment here on Oceans, like my pigtailing about other girls in other threads, or the sarcasm you don't get in other threads, are based on personal experience and recent visits. What about you?
You was in Oceans or not? When?
Visit Oceans next time you are in Germany, send me a PM and I will leave a free entry ticket for you at the desk (BTW lots of free entry tickets can be found on ebay for few euros), so you can write a detailed report and enlighten us, instead of making verbose comments on my opinions.
I'll add another negative about Oceans: like GT, they don't let you walk around without robe on. Man I hate that.
Price / taxi scam: they actually advertise on the website that they MUST charge higher entry fees if you arrive by taxi, but they are happy to pick you up at your stay if in Duesseldorf area (without surcharge I suppose). Anybody tried that?
[QUOTE=Dutedrac;1884503]Pussy, this is the usual rambling escaping the main point.
You was in Oceans or not? When?
I'll add another negative about Oceans: like GT, they don't let you walk around without robe on. Man I hate that.
Price / taxi scam: they actually advertise on the website that they MUST charge higher entry fees if you arrive by taxi, but they are happy to pick you up at your stay if in Duesseldorf area (without surcharge I suppose). Anybody tried that?[/QUOTE]What? I can't wear my usual Hessen attire in Oceans? How can they require men to wear a robe and call themselves a proper FKK? That's seriously F'ed up! Definitely not fitting with FKK culture.
And yes, for those grammar snobs, I do realize what FKK stands for and that my use of the word "culture" at the end there is technically redundant but you get my meaning.
I had no idea Oceans had a robe required policy. This applies when it gets hot out too? We all need to wear a robe when we play in that beautiful outdoor beach volleyball set up?
Oceans also has a pay 30 euro and you can wear your street clothes policy as well. Some Chinese guy took this option on the weekend.
As for GT, I have walked around without a robe plenty of times and no one has ever told me to put one on. Is this a new policy at GT? I have been wearing a robe since it has been cold in Germany.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;1884671]
Oceans also has a pay 30 euro and you can wear your street clothes policy as well. Some Chinese guy took this option on the weekend.
[/QUOTE]I don't get why people would pay money to wear their street clothes 😞.
Its so much better w a robe going to zimmer and shower. Only plausible reason is that this will give a feel of picking a girl in a normal bar.
Has anyone here checked out WellCum in southern Austria? It is the club Carly worked at untill recently. From what she told me, and if she is to be believed, it sounds like a hidden gem. Its a large club on the italian border. 70 E for half an hour, and most girls are 18-22.
Veniamo. It for pictures and info (its the italian sister website. And even has real pictures of all the girls. I believe Carly (Oceans) is Kathy at Wellcum (just don't occupy her when I return now. since I revealed this info, lol). She is the closest thing I've had to a complete 10/10/10 since Aja (Paradise)
[QUOTE=Pistons;1884696]Has anyone here checked out WellCum in southern Austria? It is the club Carly worked at untill recently. From what she told me, and if she is to be believed, it sounds like a hidden gem. Its a large club on the italian border. 70 E for half an hour, and most girls are 18-22.
Veniamo. It for pictures and info (its the italian sister website. And even has real pictures of all the girls. I believe Carly (Oceans) is Kathy at Wellcum.[/QUOTE]Free entrance codeword: iCum 😂.
[QUOTE=Pistons;1884696]Has anyone here checked out WellCum in southern Austria? It is the club Carly worked at untill recently. From what she told me, and if she is to be believed, it sounds like a hidden gem. Its a large club on the italian border. 70 E for half an hour, and most girls are 18-22.
Veniamo. It for pictures and info (its the italian sister website. And even has real pictures of all the girls. I believe Carly (Oceans) is Kathy at Wellcum (just don't occupy her when I return now. since I revealed this info, lol). She is the closest thing I've had to a complete 10/10/10 since Aja (Paradise)[/QUOTE]That does look good!
Liked this bit in the directions 'After 800 meters you will pass the restaurant Wanker. '.
[QUOTE=Pistons;1884696]Has anyone here checked out WellCum in southern Austria? It is the club Carly worked at untill recently. From what she told me, and if she is to be believed, it sounds like a hidden gem. Its a large club on the italian border. 70 E for half an hour, and most girls are 18-22.
Veniamo. It for pictures and info (its the Italian sister website. And even has real pictures of all the girls. I believe Carly (Oceans) is Kathy at Wellcum (just don't occupy her when I return now. since I revealed this info, lol). She is the closest thing I've had to a complete 10/10/10 since Aja (Paradise)[/QUOTE]Close to Ovaro for who wants to make real iron man sport, fighting versus Devil Zoncolan. So close to Tarvisio. If I defeat Mortirolo, 2 Paso Stelvio, Paso Gavia and Zoncolan, I will deserve a day off to rest my heart there. Entry 85,70/30 mn. To visit on my bike climbing holidays.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;1884940]Close to Ovaro for who wants to make real iron man sport, fighting versus Devil Zoncolan. So close to Tarvisio. If I defeat Mortirolo, 2 Paso Stelvio, Paso Gavia and Zoncolan, I will deserve a day off to rest my heart there. Entry 85,70/30 mn. To visit on my bike climbing holidays.[/QUOTE]I think so too. Seen the Official Wellcum Video Club Teaser. Carinzia? Or the fb page?
[QUOTE=Sirioja;1884940]Close to Ovaro for who wants to make real iron man sport, fighting versus Devil Zoncolan. So close to Tarvisio. If I defeat Mortirolo, 2 Paso Stelvio, Paso Gavia and Zoncolan, I will deserve a day off to rest my heart there. Entry 85,70/30 mn. To visit on my bike climbing holidays.[/QUOTE]Also FKK Andiamo in Villach. At, not so far from Wellcum. When I will drive from Bormio, Prato to Ovaro, through amazing Dolomiti, then to Tarvisio after climbing my new Devil friend, now I don't see anymore anybody in Zoncolan, even no more Giro of Italia, where you feel all your body and head burning, vomiting from pain, with heart over 160 for more than 1 hour, I wish there will be dreamed beauties and good foods to recover my body in Hohnenthurn and Villach, to be strong for my last 5 climbing days, with Devil Agnello on italian side, before returning to Germany on my way back home, so, I have planned my dreamed holidays. It should be great: 14 iron man sport days and girls before to get strength, in the middle to recover and at the end to forget pain. Just dreams in the brain and pain for body, but I will be very hard.
This 2 clubs seem to try to attract Italians living around Venezia. More expensive than German FKK, but it will be holidays, but only after sport which is more important.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;1884671]I had no idea Oceans had a robe required policy. This applies when it gets hot out too? We all need to wear a robe when we play in that beautiful outdoor beach volleyball set up?
Oceans also has a pay 30 euro and you can wear your street clothes policy as well. Some Chinese guy took this option on the weekend.
As for GT, I have walked around without a robe plenty of times and no one has ever told me to put one on. Is this a new policy at GT? I have been wearing a robe since it has been cold in Germany.[/QUOTE]Only indoors, in main lounge and restaurant. Of course not in the wellness area (where showers and sauna are) and outdoors.
Same policy at GT, been like that forever, I have been asked to put my robe on at least 100 times, always very politely. Still trying every time, though, since indoor can get very hot.
Hey but maybe it's just because you look much better than me naked.
On your mountain treks Siri! No pain no gain.
[QUOTE=Pistons;1884696]Has anyone here checked out WellCum in southern Austria? It is the club Carly worked at untill recently. From what she told me, and if she is to be believed, it sounds like a hidden gem. Its a large club on the italian border. 70 E for half an hour, and most girls are 18-22.
Veniamo. It for pictures and info (its the italian sister website. And even has real pictures of all the girls. I believe Carly (Oceans) is Kathy at Wellcum (just don't occupy her when I return now. since I revealed this info, lol). She is the closest thing I've had to a complete 10/10/10 since Aja (Paradise)[/QUOTE]Wellcum and Andiamo are two clubs very close to italian border, clientele 90% italians. No hidden gem, if you are used to upscale german FKK. Higher entry rates (85-90 e) and higher girl rates (70 e /30 min), LUs are not too large for numbers (30 to 50-60 girls depending on days), quite high for optics but usual hit and miss for service like all romanian dominated clubs (yes even here it's 90% romies, maybe even 95%). A lot of romanian girls in german clubs have worked / are working / will work there. Italian guys are on average less demanding for services compared to germans, and are used to pay higher rates when P4P.
Similar size and setup as GT Vienna, but with even higher prices. But the clubs facilities are newer and nicer compared to Vienna (Wellcum at least, Andiamo is getting weary). Both clubs are in the middle of nowhere unless you are travelling that route, but in Wellcum they also have hotel inside so you can rent a (expensive) room right there.
Hidden gem in the sense that it is never discussed here on ISG. But I suppose all clubs are hit and miss to some degree. Somehow two of my current favourites (Aksena, Art and Carly, Oce) comes from working at aut clubs (vienna GT and wellcum), so I do wonder if there is something to the austrian clubs in terms of service. Or if you are right and its rather the opposite. Which seem strange to me.
Or maybe the girls are tired of only ita after working there, so service improves for northerners? Like how asian girls are popular in europe, but once you get to asia its asian overload and you get tired of them in a week. LOL.
LU is very good. Hotties models galore.
[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1885874]LU is very good. Hotties models galore.[/QUOTE]Been there many times?
I was visiting NRW over the weekend of May 20-22, and had read here the solid reports of Ocean. Having never been, I decided to check it out on a Sunday afternoon. Massive mistake. On entry I was demanded by the receptionist / TF to pay 65 euro entry because I'm a foreigner (American). The posted entry fee of 50 euro was literally sitting right next to the desk, so I pushed back but she would not budge. My gut was telling me to walk, but since I had driven 30 minutes or so to arrive, I went ahead and paid. Big mistake / waste of money. Although there were decent number of cars in the lot and had seen one taxi arrive, the club itself was nearly deserted. Only 2-3 girls who were not the least bit interesting (old and big), plus maybe a dozen men hanging out and waiting for something to happen. I had a bite to eat, then sat outside for an hour to enjoy the air, but the club remained dead so I cut my losses and went to GT Brugge since I needed to be in Amsterdam that evening.
I can tell from the size of the locker room and the overall appointment of the club that it is well set to rock at the right time, but I expected at least a minimally interesting ambiance on a Sunday afternoon. Not just a bad lineup, there was no lineup. I left more severely disappointed than at any other FKK visit. I have no plans to return, as I particularly hate being cheated on price. They won't be getting any more of my money.
My take: don't bother with afternoons at Oceans unless you have low standards and / or infinite patience to wait for something decent to come along.
Eddy.
I was there recently and LU was tops. Lots of pretties with nice slim bodies, all kinds. Lots of tall slim model types. I have no doubt about the LU being much improved.
Few ex-Aca girls that look better due to better presention (better make-up, etc.). I was impressed as fat as optics goes. I think it's the LU that Aca or GT should be. It seems to be drawing lots of great looking girls.
I had no issues with either 30 or 50 Euro entry options.
Seems we were there at the same time Eddy. Read my reports as to when the girls started showing up. And I agree. Absolutely no reason to go there before 6. There was one 9 girl arriving around 4:30, but I snatched her pretty fast, LOL. And after that she was on a spree untill the other pretties showed up to give her some competition
PL: Are you talking about Oceans or Wellcum now?
Oceans. Walked in at night. Got to say, was impressed with what I saw.
If Wellcum and Adiamo are in the same region, contemplating for visits.
Eddy, thanks. Sounds like there's no chance of getting the 40 euro reduced entry for seniors.
[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1886053]
If Wellcum and Adiamo are in the same region, contemplating for visits.[/QUOTE]Well, I am trying to find out. But with arrogant persons like Dutedrac around who only want to add to the discussion things everyone and their grandmother can google is the only one who seems to have been there and are posting on this forum, it gets kinda hard.
[QUOTE=Pistons;1886200]Well, I am trying to find out. But with arrogant persons like Dutedrac around who only want to add to the discussion things everyone and their grandmother can google is the only one who seems to have been there and are posting on this forum, it gets kinda hard.[/QUOTE]Dutedrac has been there (more than once) and has given his opinion on the 2 clubs, which you can not find on google, so next time consider being thankful instead of whining like a pussy.
Or read (and translate) italian pay sex forums, there are tons of postings there about southern austrian clubs.
[QUOTE=Dutedrac;1886261] instead of whining like a pussy..[/QUOTE]I don't know whining pussies. I only know happy pussy. LOL :)
[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1886053]Oceans. Walked in at night. Got to say, was impressed with what I saw..[/QUOTE]Yes, that's the thing. And the club's opening hours is part of the reason. 12-07 in the weekends. Which moves everything about 2 hours further back as opposed to most other clubs.
Maybe its an experiment on their part. Maybe its working well, maybe it isn't. Any idea if the girls there are still hungry on going to the room at 6:20 in the morning after a long night? (as I was there on a sunday they closed at 5).
For me, these opening hours are superior to the standard ones as I never reach a club before 12 anyway. And sometimes some girls are tired and say no to going to the room at 4 when they close at 5 at night. While I'm still eager to get a session going at around that time. You push closing time back 2 hours, and the girls should at least be willing to get rooms at 5 or 5.30...
Just wish there were a few more girls than 3 at 3.30 when I arrived too. I agree it is a bit meager... unless you can chill with some guys and chat for a few hours. the 12-2 buffet is at good help, but maybe it should have been 12-3 instead... it feels like an ocean of time before the girls show up if you arrive early... but at least they have lots of TV's all around the lounge and resturant.
[QUOTE=EddyWhtwtr;1885893]I was visiting NRW over the weekend of May 20-22, and had read here the solid reports of Ocean. Having never been, I decided to check it out on a Sunday afternoon. Massive mistake. On entry I was demanded by the receptionist / TF to pay 65 euro entry because I'm a foreigner (American). The posted entry fee of 50 euro was literally sitting right next to the desk, so I pushed back but she would not budge. My gut was telling me to walk, but since I had driven 30 minutes or so to arrive, I went ahead and paid.
[/QUOTE]15 Euro difference is massive! I would have walked away and masturbated for free in my hotel room.
[QUOTE=EddyWhtwtr;1885893]On entry I was demanded by the receptionist / TF to pay 65 euro entry because I'm a foreigner (American)[/QUOTE]Is that even legal?
How does oceans compare to other large clubs in their facilities?
Eddy, all reviews on this board point to Oceans as not a destination during the day time, especially a Sunday afternoon after the club closes at 7 am on a Saturday (Sunday morning). I DO NOT recommend Oceans before 6 pm at the earliest.
Some advice. If you don't see a group of girls standing at the entry waiting for keys (?) you know you're too early.
If they try to scam you 65 euro entry. LEAVE! Don't give it even if you drove 6 hours from France to get there. Don't let Oceans scam tourists. Be strong and move along.
Wow, that is quite strange. 65 because a foreigner? I just told the lady what I'm paying and no problems. Same for the guy next to me. Perhaps during the day this can happen.
If you stayed only for the day, you haven't seen the ACTUAL LU of girls, which was quite good as others have stated.
Sure, daytime GT has lots of girls, but night time Oceans LU was clearly better optically. GT LU is good. I'm hearing good stuff about new girls working at GT. I have good odds of service at GT, and that's one of the draws for me there. So I got unfinished business there with several girls I could have gone with recent visit.
As for Oceans, service is likely hit or miss compared to GT.
[QUOTE=Breadman;1886341]How does oceans compare to other large clubs in their facilities?[/QUOTE]Not my type of Ambiance as GT ambiance is more of my type with the outdoors in the summer, but facilities are new and large sized compared to others at the NRW.
Quite dark at night, not good lighting to make out the girls from a distance. Girls sitting at the bar. Others walking around. Feels like Artemis, but much greater scale lounge with high ceiling like Sharks. No pool or jacuzzi. Sauna on the other section past the lought to the back. Small kino entry at the end if the bar. GT like magnetic key lockers, same size.
Although quite dark, you can see everthing at any location in the lounge.
Think of the shape of the high ceiling lounge as a high ceiling stretched rectangle with bar and couches on the opposite sides on the length. Or shaped like a huge hallway. Center with dance stage poles with the moving colored lighting in the dark with the two huge disco balls. Dining on the bar side on the corner is of course the brightly lit area. Really flashy. Rooms have pungent cigarette smell odor.
Smoking out doors. No issues with smoke inside.
Not really a garden for outdoor area. Some couches for people to sit and relax. Couple small tents that girls smoke inside. No lounge shairs like other clubs. Not much of an outdoor area beyond that.
Generally has that fuck factory club feel with the loud music. Wouldn't consider it a relaxing ambiance of course at night.
30 Euro entry is a good option. I ate somewhere else and I don't drink all that much. I can just pay for drinks for 2 Euros a pop. Wristband keeps your tab and they scann it as you leave.
Quite good 3 d camera pictures of the place on their website with high resolution pictures. Gives a good sense of how it is. The only difference is more colorful lighting at night. The column that changes light also feels thicker and takes center stage kinda. I find it quite nice with the 'magic lighting'.
PL forgot to mention the cool 'salt room', which is used for sleeping or taking a nap. Although I've had more comfortable beds than you get there. They are shaped kinda like those at the oase sleeping area. The water ambience with the salt shaped walls creates a nice odor for sleeping though. But yes, a pool or jacuzi would be in place. Perhaps in the center of the wellness area. Thats where I would have placed it at least.
Oh, and you get a huge fine if you smoke indoors. There is a poster about it on the glass door towards the garden.
You summed it up well PL, I was there recently and concur with most of what you said. However if I had only a few hours to visit a club I'd choose Oceans over GT, Oceans has a bit more of a quality about it and whilst we guys go for the girls and not to look at the décor the ambiance can either add or take away from the overall experience. The LU was easily a match for GT and there were some very hot girls there during my visit. One word of special mention is the blonde on reception, a German girl with an outstanding face and figure. I'd pay many times over the standard rate to fuck that babe.
[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1886461]Not my type of Ambiance as GT ambiance is more of my type with the outdoors in the summer, but facilities are new and large sized compared to others at the NRW.
Quite dark at night, not good lighting to make out the girls from a distance. Girls sitting at the bar. Others walking around. Feels like Artemis, but much greater scale lounge with high ceiling like Sharks. No pool or jacuzzi. Sauna on the other section past the lought to the back. Small kino entry at the end if the bar. GT like magnetic key lockers, same size.
Although quite dark, you can see everthing at any location in the lounge.
Think of the shape of the high ceiling lounge as a high ceiling stretched rectangle with bar and couches on the opposite sides on the length. Or shaped like a huge hallway. Center with dance stage poles with the moving colored lighting in the dark with the two huge disco balls. Dining on the bar side on the corner is of course the brightly lit area. Really flashy. Rooms have pungent cigarette smell odor.
Smoking out doors. No issues with smoke inside..[/QUOTE]
Perhaps you have not seen Candy De from Hamburg?
She had a very pretty face, but didn't try due to her sitting at a couch (couldn't see her body with incling that she maybe thick down there like many De girls I run into). Was interested, but had the vibe the service wouldn't be good based on our convo.
I chose the wrong girls, and service stats so far isn't good. So I have to be more careful with picks there, but wrong picks is just feeling out the waters. I got a feeling my stats would be pretty low just picking the hottest girls there. Not easy as pie.
Thing about our picks is that it rides on our tastes if optiks is weighed high and if optiks can be highly met. If those girls happen to be either sharks, trainwrecks, highly annoying upsellers, then your experience will be at the bottom. What is the alternative? Opt for somebody not as attracted to? What is the point of high optiks LU then. This I believe is one of what creates the differences in opinions of various clubs..
I noticed a girl perfectly my type, and another punter would agree, and we both agreed she has bad vibes. Matter a fact it turns out I sessioned her at Aca and one of my worst experiences there, and same for her friends. Problem is, she looks pretty close to my ideal now looking bettet than ever with appearance enhancements, but I won't repeat due to a bad experience. Looks are not that big to me. With these types of girls around ever since the first visits, service doubs has been there. Until I at least find a great service provider(close to the type I go for) there, it will rank only on optiks.
Oceans is def trying to scam tourists during the day at least.
[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1887136]Oceans is def trying to scam tourists during the day at least.[/QUOTE]So what to do? Learn a couple of german phrases, LOL.
"Ich bin kein Sextourist" haha
Is it best to station myself at Dusseldorf when checking out NRW clubs?
When Oceans opened on beginning of November 2014 , claiming to have soon 200 girls and to be a high class club, but now, only a Turkish club at night, most with street clothes like at Dolce Vita, and only a few pretty girls on a Saturday night. Rates: after 2 pm, 30€ without drink and foods and 50€ with drinks and foods, free before 2 pm, are just close to the desk, you can t miss, so I gave 30€ to the slim pretty blond girl on desk, when I arrived at 1 am, from Aca, after Atletico vs Real, playing the Turkish. The club design is beautiful, but quite dark and rooms are also quite dark, when I like full light to enjoy beauty. Some girls knew me from other clubs: ex small brunette Natalia from Aca, a tall blond from Sharks, and others seem to think: are you lost? You are not Turkish. Only a few Asians and me. Close to the entry, was sitting a girl who would be among the prettiest at Sharks, fake blond Sierra. Ro, but not busy at all. After looking at the casting, I stayed in front of her to try to understand, so she asked me: what do you want? Then: you can look at me, but don't touch me, when I sit close to her after asking if I could, but we went to a room upstairs, I couldn't resist to play with such beauty. Friendly, sweet for sex, BBBJ like a "little girl" , quite good potential for vagina, but no foreplay, only a doll who doesn't worth more than 50 , when she could be a queen in the biggest clubs if she was behaving like a woman, only nipples becoming hard worth. She seems to have only a few fast rooms. Then, among many girls asking if I was ready to go to room, I found a small, chestnut hair, pretty classy face, Anda ex Magnum, but after Sierra, I asked her about kissing. She answered: 1 week ago, I would have said Yes, but now I can't because my throat is painful, so, next one, a pretty brunette with beautiful blue eyes, Vivien, claiming to be polish, but I don't think so. She said she kisses, she started to explain me all the extra rates all over the world, in room, then was tired even not busy, baby kiss, very average skill for sex, she wanted longer DATY to relax, limited vagina potential when she proposed extra for anal, I would have killed her ass. At 53 mn, she said hour was finished, I explained her we started at 4 am, so hour will be finished at 5 am, but I put off the condom and said to her: finished, we go. She seemed surprised I didn't want to take more time to finish, but except her beauty, nipples becoming hard and chicken skin, she didn't with more than 1 hour to do the job with her. Then, no other beauty, I asked some girls, so kissing don't seem to be a standard service at Oceans. Rates are: 50/30 mn, but CIM for 50 and anal for 100 , when 25 and 50 at LR, or GT. Even I had a good room with EMA. Ro from Harem Padenborn for my previous visit, my girls services were much lower than at Aca, or LR, or Sharks, or Mainhattan, or Atlanta.
Not a high class club for me, just to finish the night when had bad day at Aca or LR or GT, about 50/60 girls not busy and no wait for room at 2 am, when it closes at 7 am. Next game will be to find a pretty girl providing real GFE services at Oceans, I mean really kissing and with sexual skill.
Depends on which clubs you are planning to visit. Look on the map and pick a good central location of clubs you are to visit. Car Rental is highly recommended.
I was impressed last visit, yes, but after visiting Mon night, I got to say, Monday LU was much smaller in scale, and weak compared to Fri's very good LU.
Pretty empty of clients during the day. At night was pretty empty of clients, although the late night Turkish showed up close to 11 pm. Messe crowd should be expected from tomorrow.
Kinda reminds me of Magnum's LU polarity of weekend to week. It was a Monday though. It's a slow day at other places too.
I hate how dark it is in the lounge.
Ratio was just bad for the girls. My stats based on 4 sessions so far is 2/4 girls provided at least a good level service, but one of them was out-standing (ex-Sharks).
My apologies for not making it to Oceans tonight but sounds like I didn't miss much. Was my Albanian Juliet there?
I have noticed a general NRW trend. Lineups during the week are noticeably much weaker than the weekend, even at GT. This never used to be the case. At least Mondial keeps rocking EVERY night with 60+ girls on a Monday night. Up til 10 pm girls outnumbered the guys at least 2:1.
[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1887263]Depends on which clubs you are planning to visit. Look on the map and pick a good central location of clubs you are to visit. Car Rental is highly recommended.[/QUOTE]Ok thanks master PL thinking about Oceans obviously and LR, GT, Samya etc looks like Dusseldorf will be a good base. Car seems to be needed in NRW area haven't driven in a while so a bit rusty, hehe.
Thinking about expanding my horizon to complete my training as a jedi, LOL.
So NRW clubs pretty much dead during the week makes me worry. Perhaps I should just stay in FRA and make day trips instead.
Thanks for the intel Sir Siri aka the French Devil poet, LOL.
[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1887268]I hate how dark it is in the lounge.[/QUOTE]Is it really any darker than at for example Oase or Artemis lounge though? Iirc it was about the same.
[QUOTE=Pistons;1887370]Is it really any darker than at for example Oase or Artemis lounge though? Iirc it was about the same.[/QUOTE]Strictly speaking Pistons, the amount of lighting in each of these clubs is about the same. Give or take a few lumens. The fact of the matter is, at Oceans, in the far left and back of the club, it is really dark. While under the mirror balls, the reflection from those lights block out any chance you getting a good look at the girl's face and body. The only time I was there, I could only see how average the girl looked when I was inside the sauna and while I was having dinner at the restaurant. The lighting affects the mood, and it is more of a disco than it is a relaxing FKK. In my opinion, this is one of the main reasons why I could not get into the mood. It was only when I walked up to the bar and sat down did I notice the girls next to me. Oase, on the other hand, has the mezzanine area between the lounge and the saunas that is very well lit and is the best spot to pick up a girl. That is where the girls like to ambush the men coming back from dinner.
FiddyCent.
It is dark pretty much all the time. They just got the disco lights goin. It's just dark. I'm a face guy, and light is important to make out the girls faces.
There is not real lighted spots to see the girls like Artemis stairs, Oase jacuzzi area. Right after lounge exit, brighter and better, but still not I'd consider brightly lit. The lounge is kino level of darkness like Oase kino / loung area.
[QUOTE=Exodus8;1887302]Ok thanks master PL thinking about Oceans obviously and LR, GT, Samya etc looks like Dusseldorf will be a good base. Car seems to be needed in NRW area haven't driven in a while so a bit rusty, hehe.
Thinking about expanding my horizon to complete my training as a jedi, LOL.
So NRW clubs pretty much dead during the week makes me worry. Perhaps I should just stay in FRA and make day trips instead.
Thanks for the intel Sir Siri aka the French Devil poet, LOL.[/QUOTE]Even blond Sierra. Ro is a very pretty girl, but just behaving like a poor doll for fast Turkish fuck for only 50 , with no kiss or licking or caresses except for her small tits, Anda ex Magnum, is also a pretty face, but also saying not kissing, pretty brunette with blue eyes Vivien with wasting time behavior and not really kissing, also doesn't worth more than 50, so, Sharks is far higher for casting look and GFE level for me. LR with Elli / Elena, Claudia, Amira is also far higher for GFE level. Aca also used to be higher for look and sexual level. Most of Oceans girls were working in other clubs before, so they know the business, most don t seem to want to kiss, I mean real kiss, so only 50€ girls for fast sex for me.
A high class club where girls dance on the bar, like at LR, belly and ass swinging dance with bare feet, not so classy, same for kind of guests.
No need to have a car for Oceans, I know guys who walk from airport train station for less than 1 hour.
Siri: Thanks for report on Sierra (she did seem very inexperienced). But like I said in my report on the girls I went with, its alot to do with getting the connection. Sierra did seem to prefer the Turks, but the other girls I met were anything but pro Turks.
And I agree the girls dancing on the podium was anything but a turn on. At least for me. One African guy started fucking one of them on stage, so perhaps it is different for some, who knows right? At least its some sort of public sex too.
Exodus: just walk from the s bahn station at Dusseldorf Rath. Its 20 minutes pretty exactly at slow / medium pace.
LR, Samya, Mondial is also walkable from s bahn stations, so unless you go to aca or gt, I see no reason to get a car.
[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1887268]I was impressed last visit, yes, but after visiting Mon night, I got to say, Monday LU was much smaller in scale, and weak compared to Fri's very good LU.
Pretty empty of clients during the day. At night was pretty empty of clients, although the late night Turkish showed up close to 11 pm. Messe crowd should be expected from tomorrow.
Kinda reminds me of Magnum's LU polarity of weekend to week. It was a Monday though. It's a slow day at other places too.
I hate how dark it is in the lounge.
Ratio was just bad for the girls. My stats based on 4 sessions so far is 2/4 girls provided at least a good level service, but one of them was out-standing (ex-Sharks).[/QUOTE]If you don't name the outstanding one, your post sort of becomes useless waste of bandwidth. No substance no intel, other than don't show up except the weekend. Are we supposed to understand the good girl only works weekends?
[QUOTE=Pistons;1887650]Siri: Thanks for report on Sierra (she did seem very inexperienced). But like I said in my report on the girls I went with, its alot to do with getting the connection. Sierra did seem to prefer the turks, but the other girls I met were anything but pro turks...
And I agree the girls dancing on the podium was anything but a turn on. At least for me. One african guy started fucking one of them on stage, so perhaps it is different for some... who knows right? At least its some sort of public sex too...
Exodus: just walk from the s bahn station at Dusseldorf Rath. Its 20 minutes pretty exactly at slow / medium pace.
LR, Samya, Mondial is also walkable from s bahn stations, so unless you go to aca or gt, I see no reason to get a car.[/QUOTE]Even she answered no, when I asked her if it was difficult for her, but I think this bad job is very difficult for Sierra, rather than she is shy or inexperienced. Sierra, but not the RS Cosworth one, not so wild.
Did you meet small pretty chestnut Anda ex Magnum, at Oceans since 5 months? Did she kiss? She answered me she couldn't because of painful throat, so I didn't insist.
PL, was your outstanding Sharks girl, a tall, long fake blond hair with blue eyes who hunted me, saying to me she knew me from Sharks, but didn't notice her at Sharks.
If bad World on Saturday, I may repeat Oceans to see what is the first Saturday night of the month, should be the best casting, when guys just get salary, and always a pleasure to drive from Giessen to Dusseldorf and returning to Darmstadt on Sunday.
Aiden. Not sure where she is from. Quiet girl. I saw her sitting alone most of the night so I felt a bit sorry for her and tried talking to her. Pretty girl looks irish to me. Conversation wasn't good but I wanted to do a room and she was the best option lookswise at the time. Should have bailed. Session was meh. Don't remember any good BJ or sex and this was only a week ago. A friend of mine still went with her after me even after I gave a bad recommendation on her. He loved her so either she just hated me or he has much lower standards than I do, I suspect the latter.
Juliet. A GEM! Albanian girl usually hangs outside smoking. Full attack mode from first second with DFK. Sex amazing as well. Seh got so into it. If you see her go with her you won't be disappointed.
I'm 2 for 3 with Oceans girls with 2 gems and a dud. I will take those odds. Busty petite Sharon was also great.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;1887714]Even she answered no, when I asked her if it was difficult for her, but I think this bad job is very difficult for Sierra, rather than she is shy or inexperienced. Sierra, but not the RS Cosworth one, not so wild.
Did you meet small pretty chestnut Anda ex Magnum, at Oceans since 5 months? Did she kiss? She answered me she couldn't because of painful throat, so I didn't insist.[/QUOTE]You are probably right about sierra.
Read my report on Anda a few pages back. Great girl with me at least.
I will probably give out a full report whenever I feel like(or not, perhaps not with a whiner on this thread?), and it is my choice. So, don't make assumptions folks. Just live updates for now until I feel like it, so don't be bitches like you are entitled.
Go visit the fucking club if interested. If not, no points in discussion.
[QUOTE=Pistons;1887794]You are probably right about sierra.
Read my report on Anda a few pages back. Great girl with me at least; p.[/QUOTE]Just my feeling about Sierra who was the prettiest for my tastes, she wants to keep distance, no complicity, no intimacy, no foreplay, but I can't say she is unfriendly, just a robot doll. Maybe have to try again, to see if she can trust more.
For me small Anda / Andra is more chestnut than blond, or very dark blond. Good if you enjoyed, but no kissing as she said she couldn't, was too much frustration, after being frustrated with Sierra, even filling the condom in 20 mn, like a Turkish rabbit, but not my pleasure. I never enjoy with girls who don't really kiss and I need foreplay. Sierra didn't, Vivien not really.
I enjoyed so much my Siberian escort Irina last early evening, light kiss to start, but full saliva kissing for missionary, full loss of control, just what I enjoy with girls. Wish I can repeat before she returns to Novossibirsk.
[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1887867]I will probably give out a full report whenever I feel like(or not, perhaps not with a whiner on this thread?), and it is my choice. So, don't make assumptions folks. Just live updates for now until I feel like it, so don't be bitches like you are entitled.
Go visit the fucking club if interested. If not, no points in discussion.[/QUOTE]I just can agree with Syzy who at least gives many information about girls on this forum, even I don't always agree with him about tastes for girls, but it's not a problem. At least, he is not afraid girls know he writes. When guys write: good casting, I had 3 girls, then, no useful information for others. I don't need to read how you fuck girls in room, I take lessons only with girls and I m self confident enough for my behavior with girls, but if no girls at least named in your post, then we can't appreciate about casting you talk about. When I go with Amira at LR and she comes straight to me when she see me, I have no time to speak with her about other members, 1 hour is not too long to enjoy with her hidden sensuality. When I don't write some girls name, it's just because of the american and the Japanese who bullshit about me to my girls, not because I don't want to share them, I write a lot about my weekly fav Megan, and I don't think so many guys speak to girls about you, than about me, I didn't understand you are a weekly regular for girls. No critics, just my opinion about useful or useless posts.
[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1887867]I will probably give out a full report whenever I feel like(or not, perhaps not with a whiner on this thread?), and it is my choice. So, don't make assumptions folks. Just live updates for now until I feel like it, so don't be bitches like you are entitled.
Go visit the fucking club if interested. If not, no points in discussion.[/QUOTE]I wouldn't let one or a few people turn you off to posting, The exact same post that some people feel has no value might have value to someone else. This is an International forum to exchange info. Last year this time Aca was loaded with hot girls and Oceans was not and I know that for sure from visiting both clubs twice each. I now see from your posts that Oceans has pulled in the hot girls and some other clubs might not have a great current line up, such as Aca. Last year I also visited Mondial and had an ok time but was overpowered by the whale status of most of the girls. Now I see there are quite a few lookers there at Mondial so I am going to add it to my up coming trip. For people to criticize a post and say it doesn't have enough info or wasting space on the page is crazy. Easy as a scroll past if you don't like what the post says. Yes some people who live in the area can post informative names and other helpful info but I think it's not always about that. When I am fkking I try to scope out around 200 girls a day, to remember the names of the 5 I banged is sometimes not as easy as it sounds after meeting soo many girls.
I truly understand the hesitance to writing the names of the girls as some girls don't like being posted about and are sniffing us out. But a 'report' is not a report without that information. Then its more like a short review in my eyes. PL is good at reviews, but not reporting (he same can perhaps be said about me). Just my 2 cent. Not a waste of bandwidth at all in my eyes, but more interesting for guys who hasn't been to a club than for those who has been there more than once. Since a report is more for those who have seen and spoken to the girls, while a review is for those who hasn't been to the clubs before.
Definitions, gotta love them.
Been there about three times in the last month. Only top optik for me at Ocean's is Lucy ex-ACA. She's been at Oceans since it opened. But service / attitude was shit. Only new girl I sessioned was a German MILF (Laura? Timea (RO) I seriously considered. Then there were three girls that I knew from previous clubs that I considered repeating.
Each his own tastes, as Siri says. Siara seems to be the most talked about Oceans girls in multiple forums. Have no idea who she is.
[QUOTE=McAdonis;1888168]Each his own tastes, as Siri says. Siara seems to be the most talked about Oceans girls in multiple forums. Have no idea who she is.[/QUOTE]Sierra. Ro, not Siara, like my ex dreamed car, Sierra RS Cosworth, a very wild car. A little bit Megan type, but shorter, fake blond hair to shoulders. The prettiest look at Oceans, but not so pretty than Megan. She sits just at entry, no stockings, small tits. Not the best in room, even good vagina potential.
She is very pretty with good hips / bone structure and a beautiful face. Walks like a fae. But as with the tits, she is perhaps a bit slim. If she was taller, she'd easily be a supermodel. Victoria secrets, maybe reminds me a bit of timea (Barbie) (Artemis) when she was younger. Just 19 years old, so might feel like a virgin. At least for the day right? LOL.
Dunno if she is the prettiest at oceans. I find Anda's face to be the same level or prettier. Carly's body is more perky. And Raia has sexier curves. So it depends on the attributes. But she acts a little hard to get, so there is a draw.
Now I feel very mechanical about this.
Who is this Megan anyway?
[QUOTE=Pistons;1888277]She is very pretty with good hips / bone structure and a beautiful face. Walks like a fae... But as with the tits, she is perhaps a bit slim. If she was taller, she'd easily be a supermodel... victoria secrets... maybe reminds me a bit of timea (barbie) (artemis) when she was younger. Just 19 years old, so might feel like a virgin. At least for the day right? LOL.
Dunno if she is the prettiest at oceans. I find Anda's face to be the same level or prettier. Carly's body is more perky. And Raia has sexier curves... So it depends on the attributes. But she acts a little hard to get, so there is a draw. Lol
Now I feel very mechanical about this, lol
Who is this Megan anyway?[/QUOTE]Megan is my super top model at Sharks and she really could be a real model if she really believes and fight for it, angel face, blue eyes, long black hair, 1,75 without heels, 53 kg, and so friendly smiling girl. Sierra is only about 1,65 and not so natural look, but would be one of the prettiest at Sharks or in any other club, but far lower Megan for GFE behavior. I agree and was attracted by small Anda with pretty classy face and also prefer Anda face than Sierra, but I never force girls and no kissing would have been too frustrating for me. Anda and Sierra were not busy at all, we spoke with Anda about Turkish guests and she was also used at Magnum, I will try again next time, as soon she will agree for kissing, she will be my girl. Didn't notice Raia or Carly.
Thanks for the idea for Wellcum. At, instead of injuring my body for all my holidays, I will give it a time to rest and recover at Wellcum and Andiamo, but only if I succeeded to defeat the 2 devils before, French devil vs Dolomiti devils.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;1888321] Didn't notice Raia or Carly.
I will give it a time to rest and recover at Wellcum and Andiamo, but only if I succeeded to defeat the 2 devils before, French devil vs Dolomiti devils.[/QUOTE]Raia seemed to be a regular at least, so hope she is still around. She was the most active girl in the whole club 'working the floor'. Some might say that thing is sharky, but I didn't feel it was bad with her sexy looks.
I do hope Carly stays at the club though. As I wrote in my report, she had just been there for 3 days when I was there. And then there is allways the risk of them moving along to anotehr club before settling down. But as she said, she felt 'too old' for Wellcum at the age of 24. That goes to say that 1. She won't return there. And 2. Wellcum has a very low average age. Her exceptinoal service made her a girl I bet guys would visit a club only to see her for. So perhaps she is but most of the night in the room, and that's why you didn't see her. She used to sit at the column in the lounge closes to the wellness area. So kinda opposite to where Sierra use to sit.
I also go devil hunting, but so far I've never had and any problems defeating them. And if I die in battle, 77 000 virgins will meet me in Valhalla. If I win, 77 girls will say hi in FKK's, so its alright to win for the time being...
Siri, is Megan currently at Sharks? She wasn't there Wednesday.
[QUOTE=Exodus8;1887145]So what to do? Learn a couple of german phrases, LOL.
"Ich bin kein Sextourist" haha
Is it best to station myself at Dusseldorf when checking out NRW clubs?[/QUOTE]Walk in with other folks that are paying 30 or 50 entry. If you are are alone waling in early in the day, high chances they may pull that bullcrap. Messe times they may pull that crap also. DV just raises their prices when they like and state it's Messe as an excuse. Utter BS.
[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1888805]Walk in with other folks that are paying 30 or 50 entry. If you are are alone waling in early in the day, high chances they may pull that bullcrap. Messe times they may pull that crap also. DV just raises their prices when they like and state it's Messe as an excuse. Utter BS.[/QUOTE]I'm ok with DV raising the prices to 65 euro during Messe since it's clearly stated on their website. I have a problem going to a club and them making up random prices AFTER I get there. I would have popped into DV last night for 50 euro but knowing it was 65 euro they lost 50 euro in their pockets for many cheap guys like myself who had better options.
My first time ever in a German FKK club. Did not know what to expect but it reminded me a lot about the Termas in Brasil.
I arrived Wednesday at 18:30. Already quite a few cars in the parking lot. I walked in and paid the 65 EUR entrance fee. The 30 EUR option was not available as there was a Messe going on (Drupa). Actually, the receptionist asked for 85 EUR first and only when she saw me hesitate asked if I came by car (which I did) or taxi. So you have to volunteer the information yourself. I must say I was not impressed by the reception. I told her I was new to OCeans and to FKK but she did not offer a tour or anything. No explanations at all. Fortunately, I had read this forum so I knew how to close the locker etc.
As I said, the concept reminded me of the Termas I have visited in Rio, but Oceans was way bigger than any Termas I have seen. The main room is not a room but a hall. It was very stuffy inside, no AC. So like in the termas you wear your bathrobe while the girls wear bikinis or less. I did see some guys who were wearing their underpants under their bathrobe but that is rather ridiculous. The entrance fee gets you free soft drinks (not mentioned at reception either but again hurray for ISG), but the service at the bar is incredibly slow. I got a vodka-redbull first, which was a mistake as it was redbull all right but I could not taste the vodka. Switched to red wine after and was rather pleasantly surprised by the quality of the wine.
Anyway, I settled in one of the comfortable couches that line the wall to check out the talent. I think 18:30 was the right time as girls kept arriving from outside. And many of them quite agreeable to the eye and definitely fuckable from a physical perspective. I had been sitting for two minutes or so when two babes came to sit at either side of me. I thought we would go into pleasant conversation for a while, but they were both in a hurry to get me into a room. So after the oblique exchange of names (they were both from Bulgaria) they asked if I wanted to go to a room. When my response was " in a while" , they said "ok, see you soon" and left. I was quite surprised at that. No flirting or seducing at all. Next game a fake blonde who was next to naked, but same thing. Anyway, I was not in a hurry.
After about an hour, I spotted a nice chocolate girl sitting by herself and went to introduce myself. Took her first to one of the alcoves to check out the wares (well she was topless all right so not much checking to do), then took her to a room (Room 9, full of mirrors). She had a sweet personality, told me she was from Dominican Republic, lives in Spain and came to Oceans for two weeks at the time to work. Long live Schengen. I am not a complicated guy so we did all the normal stuff (covered BJ, all sorts of positions). Very relaxing. Ended spending an hour with her. Her work name is Lia (I know her real name but guess I should not tell you guys that).
For those who are new like me I should add that the rooms are very spacious and the girls take fresh linen every time.
Also, what I had not read in the forum, you have to pay the girls in cash. I had thought that you would pay everything to reception in the end (again like in the Termas) but no.
I went back to the couches again for a while. It was now 9 PM and the ratio girls / men was very good. A girl started to poledance and she was really good and had a great body. Some of these are such pros! I was quite far away from her but after the dance she came straight to me. She told me she had not seen me before and had I liked it. She is from Constantia in Romania and her name is Ariadne. We chatted a bit and then I took her to another room. Again all the usual stuff happened. No rush at all, very friendly. She has been there for one year already and is paid a little to do 6 dances a night. All the other girls have to pay the organisation 90 EUR per day. On a good night she has 15 customers (Lia had told me the same thing). Assuming all this is tax free, these girls make more money than many hard working guys do! He mother in Romania makes 200 EUR per month! Ariadne has worked in other places too, but she thinks Oceans is best as they don't hassle the girls, they can decide themselves if they go with a customer or not etc.
I left around 22:00.
On exit I was given three 80 EUR entrance tickets. That was nice.
I will definitely repeat when I will be in the area again.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;1888687]Siri, is Megan currently at Sharks? She wasn't there Wednesday.[/QUOTE]I wish her to stay at home or to think about what I said to her for a better life she deserves, but she said she will return. Very slim, not curvy, top model type.
65 euro entry to Oceans during Messe. I need to reconsider going there tonight then.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;1888928]65 euro entry to Oceans during Messe. I need to reconsider going there tonight then.[/QUOTE]Not written on their website?
Agree with Siri. A revisit to Oceans really reveals the flaws. Dark lounge with trick lighting(look at the girls in daylight), girls hiding their flawed body with clothing, girls with too much makeup looking like Magnum girls. The best lookers are a few, and services ain't even decent with the best lookers that are a few(opposed to likes of GT or LR). Many are overweight with thick bottoms. No real stunners here. It's basically like Magnum LU this Friday. Back to not on my list of clubs to visit anymore.
Interation by a looker by the way of, do you want to fuck now? No decent prezimmer met, in contrast to LR and GT is far better. At GT, most attractive girls are polite and in general provides good services. Just bad vibes all around. LR and GT provides overall better experiences.
Just warning ya.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;1888928]65 euro entry to Oceans during Messe. I need to reconsider going there tonight then.[/QUOTE]Desk ask me 80 for entry on this Friday night, they can dream all night about, I left and returned in my igloo car, tomorrow will be another day for World birthday, I will let Oceans empty when messe will be finished, just what not honest club deserve, not respecting rates on their website. Oceans don t worth 80 for me, compare to Aca for 30 or Sharks for 45.
Entry from various ISG members I spoke with ranged from 30 to a whopping 80 euro! Guess they squeeze out what they think they can out of you. Most were being charged 65 euro since it was Messe. They took away the large 30-50 euro sign at the front today but it was still up in the back of the club so anyone who paid 80 euro arriving by car must have known they were hosed.
I have 10+ free Oceans passes now. For sale to the highest bidder.
As PL mentioned, lineup tonight during Messe was considerably different than last weekend. Did all the girls go to DV and Magnum tonight?
I'm not recommending Oceans any more as a must see place until there is more consistency in its lineup and service. My sessions except for Aiden have been decent but I'm hearing a lot of complaints after sessions.
I really hope you guys are faking these reports. PL says 'no real stunners'. I saw at least 5 two weekends ago. For sure they cannot all be gone.
Will still give it a visit next time I'm nearby to see for myself. Can only trust my own eyes after all.
What sucks is that if these girls are gone, you have no way of knowing which clubs they've ended up in. There should be some sort of universal FKK database somewhere, LOL.
For me, because last night was not the first time desk girls try to fuck me, Oceans which claimed to become a high class VIP club with 200 girls, is just a shame for behavior on desk, not respecting what is written on website. They just behave like a bad small brothel, only DV up rate the same for messe, LR don't. Both Oceans and DV are not FKK, too many street clothes guys, these 2 places deserve their type of clients.
So, even messe and first week end of the month, no top looking casting? And Ramadan to come for clients. This management don t help girls business, who sit all night last Saturday night and no wait for room, even not so many rooms.
Not faking. I was ready to leave the club at 9 pm but was waiting for an ISG member who didn't show. Ended up leaving at 11 pm or so. Quite a few were not present last night including the ex-ACA group who I consider the best group at Oceans. The ones who sit on the first round bench closest to the change room. Some others who we thought were pretty were not that great in daylight. PL discussed Oceans vs. GT and we both agree the GT are way better looking. Take some of the GT girls outside and they look even better. This isn't the case at Oceans.
Hopefully last night was just an one-off disaster at Oceans but left a sour taste in my mouth.
I tried multiple days at this venue, and already reported about initial Friday on first sight looking impressive, and later find out that it really isn't(when re-observation of the general LU in more familiar view), and did a follow-up Friday visit thinking it's best on that day(unfortunately not), when I noticed Magnum type girls, and ambiance with the loud thumping music with the late night high Turkish clientele.
Some girls:
body/face/service/illusion
Daisy. Bul, was with another pretty blond (who I think is prettier, but had bad experience with), so I wasn't sure how it would pan out. Blond, 165 approx. b-cups. She was quite friendly interaction. Her services was good and accomodating.
7/7,5/7,5/7,5
Dea. Russian? Could be the prettiest chick at Oceans. Blond with thin slim on the petite side body type. A-cups. 165, very pretty face. Doesn't come off friendly, has a bit of arrogant aire like she knows it. Worst session I had in a long time. Don't fall into the trap. Indeed a trap.
7/8/3/3
Yolanda (Erica or Erika ex-Sharks) - Ro, Tall long light blond, 175 approx, pretty faced, blue eye'd, light skin, slim curves. b or c cups. Fantastic services, but she tried to trick me on time.
7/7,5/8/7(service was great, but for trying to trick me on time lost my trust)
Sienna. Ro, light brunette, skinny tall. 172. Wasn't really my type, but she got me somehow. PSE interaction in the kino, turned out to be a hurried and below avg session in the room. Bad decision on my part.
7/6,5/5/5
The two below good were just bad. Lucy shows up every visit, she's been there since opening of the club. Not my type.
Thinking back, my first Friday visit was somewhat better with Candy De Hamburg with very pretty face (didn't see again), few others noticed, and have not seen on the consecutive visit. I think some girls take a visit like Magnum, and can be a good day if enough of them shows up. If not, it will seem like another Magnum with shady lookin chicks.
I attempted 30 Euros entry the 2nd Fri visit, and succeded(won't go into details how, you can figure that out)! I got the vibe they didn't want that. Hehe. I wonder how many walks in on a busy night like Fri with the free pass. It's ludicrous what they are doing.
You seem to prefer the tall ones. Also, I think Daisy's friend could be Raia, but if I am right, then daisy is more brunette (or dirty blonde as some say)? Its really confusing how some at this forum call brunettes for blondes. Blonde=yellow / white hair. Brunette=brown / black hair. Brown hair is not blonde. The word 'brun' = 'brown" in some languages, hence the word itself.
I like tall height, but still not limited to height alone. My preferred cut-off is 165 or above, but pretty and cute enough petites will still not be left out. LOL. Let's put it this way, I have a wide taste if you see my reports, it's just that it tends toward on avg around 170 or so. But, there are still many tall girls never taken due to not my type of facial, overall looks, etc. So, not a hard height cut-off.
Is yours a hard height cut-off to shorter than 165? 165 is on the shorter side to my eyes.
I'm am confidently sure Daisy that I know is a blond along with her friend. it's wasn't brun=brown. Both Bulgarians I take it. Dea's friend is the obvious brunette.
Like you said, brun=brown=brunette. If the hair is getting really dark brown, I simply call it black given from a distance it looks black enough. I think all the clubs I've been in, you will find your heights. The De girls at GT were probably under your height cut-off(whatever that is). LR and Mondial should work for you also, probably more so than GT. None of the places I go are just full of tall girls, there is variance of height, short to tall, just my picks happen to be such heights.
Perhaps height(shortish or petite blond preference) is the reason for preference to Oase over Sharks?
Let me take a crack at your types
Cheyanne(Adela) blond petite, GT
Liza or Tsiffany De at GT
Gigi or Roberta(brunette) at LR
Cheyanne or Laura/livia at Oase.
Normally when you use the "free cards", you can enter for free any time during opening hours, but you are required to spend a minimum on 15 EUR on drinks / food.
Once I arrived on Saturday at 11 pm, presented the free card, then the reception explained to me that I must spend a minimum of 50 EUR. I asked them the reason. They just repeated "today the minimum is 50 EUR". They also wanted to know where I was from.
So I just left and drove 30 minutes to ACA. I payed 40 to go to ACA at midnight and stayed two hours, no food.
Sensible thing would have been to stay at Oceans, but I am stubborn and left on principle. In the end it worked out, because I went with Alice at ACA and enjoyed my time.
Yes I prefer 160-165. But 155 and 170 can do as well. Not too strict regarding it, but perhaps a preferred cut off at 168 and lower. And your mentions are good. Blonde or brunette is less important though.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;1889294]Quite a few were not present last night including the ex-ACA group who I consider the best group at Oceans. [/QUOTE]They used to work at Aca before Oceans opened, and moved there. The brunette changed her looks styling, and she doesn't have the typical Ro body type. She has a slim-curvy type body, tall. Same for the blond. The brunette was of interest when at Aca due to her tits. See-cups and looked really nice, her build is my type, although on another day, noticed her bums weren't that tight.
They just look better at Aca due to the dark interior and enhanced looks (better makeup and some other changes, haircut, etc.) somewhat. Of the top optiks at Oceans, but they've been around Aca on many visits in the past along with Lucy, and show'd up to Oceans when it opened.
Oceans is mix of girls from other clubs like Aca, Magnum, YY, etc.
For me, about 3-4 girls seemed to be missing from the first Fri I visited.
[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1891827]
For me, about 3-4 girls seemed to be missing from the first Fri I visited.[/QUOTE]Too bad we don't have a local dusseldorfer here on the forum, or some regular in the nrw clubs visiting every week. It is getting hard to make a good pick on clubs to visit if the line up changes as much as it seems to do from some of the reports floating around. Clearly LR and GT has the strongest long time support, with the other clubs in nrw fluctuating too much, but from what I can tell oceans and mondial may have gathered more beauties as of late, and it was the two favourite clubs with the few people I spoke to there too (turks). Perhaps their network has brought more girls to these two clubs in particular. But it becomes a roll of a dice. And soon or already, a few girls might be on a little summer holliday too.
Girls are acting somewhat like flock animals though. If a club gathers momentum, it will attract more girls and visitors. A new club like Oceans probably just had difficulties so far with getting that momentum, but is now feeding off a few other clubs downfall? (Aca, magnum?)
GT has a history / reputation of being the significant club in the region. LR is it's sister club that you notice some resemblance to GT (staff, furniture, interior deco) if you've been there. Oceans is new.
Hessen is more consistent when it comes to LU of girls. Flocks happen at the NRW to a good degree with certain clubs in history. YY, Magnum, perhaps Samya and now Oceans perhaps. When Oceans didn't exist, Magnum was the Oceans. Late night Turks, low turn-out during the day, etc. More of night club feeling. GT has many girls that do not consistently show up due to a proportionate that limit their show, pick a day, or has a particular schedule. Still an estate building, smaller spaced than the mega clubs. I guess there maybe a lucky visit, when many of these less attenders decides to show on a particular day. Even still, the more busier ones may not be visible on the floor due to them going to the room behind reception when they are done with a client, which is sectioned off and not visible from the lounge. Only if she happens to take the path through the lounge to the lockers, you'd spot her. So, you will see several men situated around the entrance to the lounge from the reception area where the girls that are finished will have to go (lockers to get paid or reception). And quickly/often they get grabbed would have to do with their popularity. The clients have money so there would likely be longer roomer stammgasts for the in demand girls as well. So, you don't see them even if they are in attendance.
Due to good mount of changes at the NRW between trips, I've had several favs disappear on me when revisiting a club. Not that consistent.
Thats not what I ment with flocks.
Flocks are like herds. Flocks are not tight groups hanging together within a club.
The thing that has put me off from GT aside from the terrible location is just the mentality of 'grabbing a girl'. Friend of mine who has been there a few times has complained too much regarding that. According to him it was awful due to eager guys allways grabbing the hot girls asap they appeared. So he was left with some uglies. Too proud of going after the girls perhaps, but it made him an fkk hater refusing to visit other fkk's. Too bad really...
What I am thinking is that even though GT has rules on how to behave among the girls, the whole atmosphere makes them into machines, and seing as it is too easy for them to get new customers (the hot girls), deep within they turn mechanical. So as soon as they move to another club, they show their real selves... and what has become of them and their service...
[QUOTE=Pistons;1892133] According to him it was awful due to eager guys allways grabbing the hot girls asap they appeared. So he was left with some uglies. [/QUOTE]Sounds like you have never even been to GT. You will never be left with an ugly unless it's by choice. I don't see guys racing for girls either. Sounds like your information is very outdated as well.
[QUOTE=Pistons;1892133]T
What I am thinking is that even though GT has rules on how to behave among the girls, the whole atmosphere makes them into machines, and seing as it is too easy for them to get new customers (the hot girls), deep within they turn mechanical. [/QUOTE]
Again, sounds like you have never been to GT or not for some time. The current GT girls provide service easily on par with any Hessen or Berlin club, especially since the recent firings. GT girls WANT TO work at GT.
When were you last at GT?
Did I say I have been to GT? My friend was there a few times last year. Read what I wrote, not what you think I wrote, LOL.
And I know I wouldn't be be left with uglies. But he claimed he was. I'd go after the girls if need be, but its not a good thing for a club to be like that.
[QUOTE=Pistons;1892152]Did I say I have been to GT? My friend was there a few times last year. Read what I wrote, not what you think I wrote, LOL.
[/QUOTE]This is my point. You're starting to ramble endlessly in every thread now about clubs you have never visited. Maybe actually visit various clubs and get back to us on your own experiences. Your friend also needs to become a man.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;1892153]This is my point. You're starting to ramble endlessly in every thread now about clubs you have never visited. Maybe actually visit various clubs and get back to us on your own experiences. Your friend also needs to become a man.[/QUOTE]You have a strange definition of rambling endlessly then. And assumptions gets you nowhere regarding which clubs I have visited. My friend is also probably older than you and makes 10 times as much (he makes 10 times as much as me at least, LOL), so its not good news to the girls.
[QUOTE=Pistons;1892156]My friend is also probably older than you and makes 10 times as much[/QUOTE] What does this have to do with knowledge about FKK clubs, which is the ONLY important subject on this forum?
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;1892158]What does this have to do with knowledge about FKK clubs?[/QUOTE]Absolutely nothing. Another assumption. But it has to do with being a man. His knowledge regarding FKK's is quite narrow, and I try to persuade him to try more. But its hard, LOL.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;1892153]This is my point. You're starting to ramble endlessly in every thread now about clubs you have never visited. Maybe actually visit various clubs and get back to us on your own experiences. Your friend also needs to become a man.[/QUOTE]He just rambles. Never read a decent report from him, and his most recent report (or if we can call it that) is a post about Sharks Janine, got DFK or whatever. LOL.
Rambler: Something or someone too fucking cool; a take on killer.
From the Rolling Stones song.
"Did you see that? What a fucking rambler, man. ".
Source: Urban Dictionary
wow, I didn't know! Thanks! LOL ;)
[QUOTE=Pistons;1892152]Did I say I have been to GT? My friend was there a few times last year. Read what I wrote, not what you think I wrote, LOL.
And I know I wouldn't be be left with uglies. But he claimed he was. I'd go after the girls if need be, but its not a good thing for a club to be like that.[/QUOTE]Poof! And there goes the last little bit of your credibility after that 'great DFK experience with Janine. De at Sharks' story, hahaha. Bye bye!
I was contemplating for a sensible response, but I realized he's rambling about a place he never been. All his responses are going to come out of his ass(if that hasn't been happening already). If he has been there there could be some discussion here, no point as far as I'm concerned. Sometimes it's just better to ignore postings than discussion that is not worth the postings or time.
Pistons, until you provide decent reports to back up what you say here(hopefully with truths), no cred. No need for politics, social sciences, theories, bla bla blas. She said, he said. I believe this because I never been nonsense, etc..
The more clubs, types of venues you experience, and the girls at various places, you have more to compare with, bigger and better picture of things. If you are limited, for the punters that has been to various places, and are up to date on them, and with their experiences, know if to take certain opinions or info seriously or not.
Ok, I've never been to Germany : (
I wish I was as well traversed as some of the Lords of Knowledge. But I am not, I am but a mere reflection of a true scholar. I long for the days when I will be able to ride on the wings of love (or sex) through the holyland (Germany) and enter the Temples of Lust. Only then will I be able to return to my place in the world to tell the stories of my meetings with The Divine. There are many temples I know, and I will soon embark on a religious pilgrimage, if only in my bare feet, to seek out this true wisdom. Perhaps, just perhaps I will also discover the hidden secrets of the dfk, the bbbjtf, the bbbjtcws, the fhritp, the fiv and even the fuq's . I pray that the stories of The Lordesses of The Vagina will be true, and that they will also show me how to make real service infront of the almighty. Just so that I later can confess to the true Board of The Holiness. I will not falter. I promise thy, for the true wisdom is in the heart of the Belieber, and I believe.
How was that for reporting? :)
(on a side note, the reason I mentionned GT was that your description resembled that of my friends description. so in my book, you brought up the topic)
[QUOTE=Horny Harry;1892433]Poof! And there goes the last little bit of your credibility after that 'great DFK experience with Janine. De at Sharks' story, hahaha. Bye bye![/QUOTE]
They all dfk!
Jealous? ;p
[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1892298]He just rambles. Never read a decent report from him, and his most recent report (or if we can call it that) is a post about Sharks Janine, got DFK or whatever. LOL.[/QUOTE]
Look at your inbox
Got your PM, and it's not realistic. This is a place to share info. I don't gain anything from providing reports (don't get free passes, all comes out of my pocket, and certainly don't talk to girls about this forum). I am not a local tied to region, I go where I feel like. I don't get much from specific girl reports here (as I'm not the type to go hunting the girls down), but just provide for contribution to what I see fit. This place can be filled with opinions, differing experiences, etc. The real useful into is providing punters with warning of bad providers, notable girls, realistic service assessments, and info about clubs, and how it was experienced.
But then, you are a true Lord of Knowledge. What may I call you from now on? Lord of The Pussylicck? The Pussyliccker Lord? Or The Lord of The Licck of The Pussy?
(sorry if I offended you) LOL
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WboggjN_G-4
[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1892651] The real useful info is providing punters with warning of bad providers, notable girls, realistic service assessments, and info about clubs, and how it was experienced.[/QUOTE]+1. Unfortunately there are few such reports.
[QUOTE=Pistons;1892667](sorry if I offended you) LOL
[/QUOTE]My title: Senior Master Chief General of the FKK and Sauna clubs of De Pussyliccker. Simple PL will suffice. Hehe.
No offense bud, I took it as a joke. But, that Janine thing, you got to admit, it wasn't very smart no matter what your motive was (which I get now, I had no idea).
Cheers,
Senior Master Chief General of the FKK and Sauna clubs of De Pussyliccker. Phd. MD. and everything else.
[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1893087]My title: Senior Master Chief General of the FKK and Sauna clubs of De Pussyliccker. Simple PL will suffice. Hehe.
No offense bud, I took it as a joke. But, that Janine thing, you got to admit, it wasn't very smart no matter what your motive was (which I get now, I had no idea).
Cheers,
Senior Master Chief General of the FKK and Sauna clubs of De Pussyliccker. Phd. MD. and everything else.[/QUOTE]I read chef so yr title should be:
"Master Oyster Chef of FKK land & sauna clubs of De Pussyliccker" LOL.
No, I leave that title for YammaYamma. Superior Oyster Chef with multiple cream sauces of the FKKs.
[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1893087]
But, that Janine thing, you got to admit, it wasn't very smart no matter what your motive was (which I get now, I had no idea).[/QUOTE]All I can say is, I found the responses to it quite funny, but we never know unless we try right? Too bad people don't want to.
(the offence thingy was a reference to the life of brian scene. I knew you got it ;) )
I hate to rain on anyone's parade but reports that are just made up or from those who have not been to an FKK club or any club belong, at best, in the lounge section not in these sections which are meant to be a source of information for other punters not someone's wet dreams.
No offence intended but in recent weeks there seems a lot of waffle being posted.
[QUOTE=Pistons;1895206]The Oceans part about them charging more during messe is not fair to be honest. They had that 30/50 entrance deal, but now they've taken it away. 65 was allways supposed to their main cost of entry. Which to be fair is cheaper than the hessen club entry costs for example.
The 30/50 deal was probably only ment to be temporary while the club tried to attract more girls and more customers seeing the club is new and competition is fierce.
The video on their website speaks about maximum 200 girls at the club. It is not even close to that, but if that is their goal, its got a few yards to cover... (no clubs are close to 200 girls in germany)[/QUOTE]The fact is, entry info is still on the webpage. "Free entry" hours, 30/50 options. They had the sign in the background, but they decided to locate it away from front paying area(saw it situated in the sauna area) likely for the reasons pointed out already. With the competition around Duss area, they got to do what they can to compete.
There is this MEGA HAPPY HOUR: 40 (for 2 guests together), is there a cut-off time for this deal, and what does this include?
Says beer for free from 12-1900. Which I would assume to be included if you pay 65 entry fee, not the 50 option as it states, 30/50 Without food & drinks incl. A-La-Carte Menu & drinks without alc.
"Free entry"(in quotes since it's really not free, but must spend what 15 Euros or whatever amount they decide you are required?) is up to 2 pm, and then the 30/50 options kick in.
Interestingly, they got the same operational hours as Magnum (and the other managed clubs, up to 5am, 7am on Fri, Sat), and Turkish ownership. Similarities, but I haven't seen the 100 girls advertisement like Magnum, etc.
Question do the girls at Oceans walk around naked as they would in a traditional FKK club or are they clothed?
[QUOTE=Paulo069;1895867]Question do the girls at Oceans walk around naked as they would in a traditional FKK club or are they clothed?[/QUOTE]Like most of the NRW clubs the girls are not naked outside the room.
I understand:
It is generally E25 extra for CIM and E50 for anal in NRW clubs.
Some NRW clubs it is E50 for the first 30 minutes and E25 for the second 30 minutes (though I may be wrong here).
Does this apply to Oceans or do they apply a price structure similar to the Hessen clubs?
Thanks in advance.
The NRW rate of extras should apply at Oceans. Every half hr is 50 Euros like Hessen. Same for LR as well. Samya has the reduced 2nd half HR rate of 25 Euros.
[QUOTE=BeWilder;1896765]I understand:
It is generally E25 extra for CIM and E50 for anal in NRW clubs.
Some NRW clubs it is E50 for the first 30 minutes and E25 for the second 30 minutes (though I may be wrong here).
Does this apply to Oceans or do they apply a price structure similar to the Hessen clubs?
Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Same rates than in Hessen for extras and time in room.
I've trawled through this thread and found almost nothing of any relevance to a potential first time visitor apart from contributions from BB and PL. I am thinking of looking in on Sunday, and am wondering what the size of the line up might be, and what proportion might be slim to skinny? Saturday night might be another option but I fear it might be too busy and noisy for quiet tete a tetes.
Thanks for any help from members who have more experience than me.
Size of the lineup is around 70 girls. Pluss minus 10 in weekends / weekdays. Around 10 girls look great. And maybe 5 ok. Then there is a gap down to the rest which are really sub par. But that's my point of view. Most clubs have more girls in the middle of the range, but here it was either top or bottom. Most girls here are slim. The only non slim were the 2-3 africans I saw. The height ratio is 50/50 too. So works both for those liking short and tall girls. One more thing I noticed was that the prettiest short girls are blondes and the prettiest taller girls are brunettes. But lineups change, and this was one month ago, so who knows right? Enjoy.
PL has a point regarding the ambience. It helps on their presentation, but in my view that is not a bad thing. Think of it as foreplay. Who gets turned on by bad presentation anyway? And that is what fkk's are all about right? Getting turned on.
Pistons. Thanks very much for info.
19.00 on a Saturday night saw about 20 girls and 30 men, with no new girls turning up. It was like a cavernous morgue. Only one girl was attractive to me and I noticed that she had two ten minute rooms in quick succession, and after a brief chat with her I gave her a miss.What sort of girl thinks that telling me she does good blasen und ficken is any kind of selling point.
About a seven of the girls were overweight, and only three were really slim.
It felt like World on a Sunday early afternoon, except without the liveliness LOL.
The concept of the club seems to be a refined bar ambience, which is in my opinion rather misplaced. The place was low key enough without trying to make it even more low key.
I hated the a la carte food arrangements. There is no possibility for snacking or eating small meals.
What a waste of an early Saturday evening (and 50 euros) except I briefly met another ISG member.
Forgot to say, the 30 or 50 entrance options are clearly set out at the entrance.
Another thing I forgot to say was that the amount of clothing on the girls was more than in any club I have been. It emphasised how substandard the workers present were (optik viewpoint).
[QUOTE=Optimist;1902196]19.00 on a Saturday night saw about 20 girls and 30 men, with no new girls turning up. It was like a cavernous morgue. Only one girl was attractive to me and I noticed that she had two ten minute rooms in quick succession, and after a brief chat with her I gave her a miss.What sort of girl thinks that telling me she does good blasen und ficken is any kind of selling point.
About a seven of the girls were overweight, and only three were really slim.
It felt like World on a Sunday early afternoon, except without the liveliness LOL.
The concept of the club seems to be a refined bar ambience, which is in my opinion rather misplaced. The place was low key enough without trying to make it even more low key.
I hated the a la carte food arrangements. There is no possibility for snacking or eating small meals.
What a waste of an early Saturday evening (and 50 euros) except I briefly met another ISG member.[/QUOTE]But the helicopter is good, right?
Sorry to read about your poor time, Optimist. Oceans really is a crap shoot regarding its lineup. Agree the a la carte shit there has to change. It's not like their a la carte food is special.
Sounds like the club has died out then. Perhaps for the summer. Did you stay all night?
First visit to the club.
RTFF and there has been mixed reviews, yet decided to give it a shot mainly because I need a club to spend the whole day and it is a big club + it opens till 7 am.
Thanks to the contributions, I walked in and places 50 on the counter and in broken German gave the lady "schon tag" she gave me the blue band. No discussion or giving me tourist fare. Note guys in black band I believe pay 30 rate and the girls wear Red band.
Walked in around 5:45 and as if I walked into a huge strip bar prior to opening time. Nearly no one was there. The sun was out and few people were using the outdoor area.
I looked for Optimist (great guy and made the visit worth while) we chatted and I went for a bite. If he were not there, most prob I would have gone in damage control mode and moved to another club.
Layout for newbies:
You enter and the reception desk on the right, you get the band, lockers, showers and toilets on the left.
You walk in and it is a long bar on the right and couches on the left. Restaurant on the right before the bar. Food arrangement sux as Optimist reported.
Past the bar there are couple of play machines and small unmarked entrance to the Kino.
Then comes the wellness area with massage room, solarium and dampfbad, Sauna and toilets.
After is the outside area with sun loungers, sofas and couple of booths.
Multiple personalities disorder Line up and Ambiance:
1) before the match: (YAY Die Manschaftt Won.) Owners and workers were pro Italy.
As described by Optimist. Thin line up, no beauties, no stunners, no optics, more on the heavy side, and despite the low traffic, room times were brief. Ambiance was of a bar early morning in a deserted Caribbean island. Thanks for the good weather God.
2) After the match:(Again, Germany won, YAY).
I'll continue the report.
So after Optimist headed out, I thought to stay to watch the match and I am glad I did.
On the mark of 20:00 I decided to session with any girl just to clean the pipes which were rusting out and just to leave right after the match.
Session #1 (Biggest ass, Poland).
As the lineup had nothing I fancy despite me liking the big hotchie motchies, I decided to chooses someone memorable, so irrespective of the session, it would be worth the 50.
Spotted the girl with the abnormally biggest ass in the club, had a nice wait yet unfortunately boobs that doesn't go well with this chassis, max see cups. She interoduced herself and as usual I forgot the name.
She was nice sweet to talk to, huge thick ass and BOOM. She is wearing braces. A huge turnoff for me.
But determined to make something out of this day, decided to shag that Humungous ass.
She was sweet throughout, no effort as she didn't need to and after the deed (I'll spare you the details) she nearly ran out of the room. 50 biggest ass experience 15 min.
Shower, drink, round and it was the game time. (YAY, Germany won).
During the match, more girls flooding the place. Handful of optics yet no stunners, chubby not petite.
After The match, the party started.
Line up: many girls, couldn't count them but they were enough to fill the club with also the men who kept coming till I left at 5:30 am.
Yes I did stay and I am glad I did.
Once the refere blew his whistle (hehe) as if the club was shocked with defebilator.
Music pumping, girls dancing, girls doing rounds, and strip / belly dancing shows started.
To celebrate I drafted my to do list which would include Tiffany the cute petite with nice see-cups and great attitude, a tall German blonde, and one chubby busty girl but not one of the short fat ones (despite the made great strip pole dance to my surprise).
Long story short, both the blonde and the petite were very busy and couldn't get hold them between sessions as I'm stupid and don't like to go talk to the girl, but rather I smile and ask her to join me.
Anywho, while smoking saw this shoulder length red hair exotic looking girl with many tattoos (my thing) she had nearly no english and it was time to practice my German.
Earlier I saw a girl in the same bikini with shaved head from the sides and I asked if she is her sister, she laughed hard and pulled up her hair to show that she is the same person. We laughed and went to the room around 1 am.
Samantha RO red hair, piercing above the lip, tattoos everywhere, beautiful eyes, handful boobs.
Despite all odds, great session, GFE, with sweat and passion delivered.
I extended for an hour and they had to knock and kick us out of the room while we shagged like it was our honeymoon. She is not a clock watcher.
Total investment 100 + tips.
Shower, ciggy, drink and round, now I need to eat, but due to The shitty food arrangement, didn't have free food. So I passed.
Time to get energy, but the club layout didn't include a relaxation / quite room.
Due to my status I had to find a place to sleep so I settled on the couch beside the massage room under the stairs.
Woke up in 90 min with s hard-on.
The Tall blonde was Sandy auf Deutschland.
I kept her till the end as I knew I wish finish no matter what with her.
Off to the zimmer, BANG the bra is off and they are shitty bolton job. Too stiff.
Still enjoyed the session, despite the arabic tattoo on her back as it was a name of a guy. Distracting.
Finished, showered and hit the road by 5:30 am.
Noticed that I returned the band without clearing the cash box, returned to the club and it was easy 1 min job.
One note, asked about the shisha and one guy told me 15 I asked another one in English to confirm, he told me 20!!
All in all, this is a good weather club to come after 9 pm. Not place to look for stunners / playboy models nor 8+ girls (Max 5 by the end of the night).
Thanks again optimist.
Yoksha Good to meet you. I guess the club is an after 21.00 place. The Polish add was the most amazing (,but not attractive) natural (feature I have ever seen.
Pistons. I left at 19.15 as I had some internet calls to make.
Yoksha, great report.
Great report. When I was there both tents outside had turks smoking shiha, so they asked me if I wanted to have some as well. Friendly guys. Perhaps the weather makes the girls show up an hour or two later when its a warm day.
Yoksha: There is a relaxation/quiet room. Its called The Salt Room. Near the garden. And next to that couch you were sleeping in. I actually slept in the same couch a bit before noticing that salt room. Check out their website for pictures of it...
[QUOTE=Optimist;1902196] 19.00 on a Saturday night saw about 20 girls and 30 men, with no new girls turning up.
What a waste of an early Saturday evening (and 50 euros) [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Optimist;1902401] I left at 19.15 as I had some internet calls to make.[/QUOTE]I hope 19 - 19.15 was not the total duration of your stay?
It has been said enough times that Oceans is dead before 7 pm, so if you already knew you had to leave around 7 it was kinda your mistake.
Same as other Ddorf city sauna clubs, like Magnum or DV (also PHG and VV), slow (dead) in the day and loud turkish party at night.
I did Oceans mainly weekends after 7-8 pm (or even later), many options and not only romanian, sharkiness is on average higher than LR / GT / Aca / Samya but good chances of running into out of the ordinary girls if you can sort them out.
Dutetrac. No I arrived at 15.30. As you say it was my mistake in a sense, but I expected the club to be at least halfway functioning: I had expected a slow start but a club with no girls between 12.00 and 21.00! As for the forum, well, there is so much waffle it is hard to find clear info. I try to read the German forums for clear info, but my German is painstakingly slow. Anyway, I'm glad it didn't work out since it spurred me to a stellar experience at Finca the next day.
[QUOTE=Optimist;1902196]19.00 on a Saturday night saw about 20 girls and 30 men, with no new girls turning up. It was like a cavernous morgue. Only one girl was attractive to me and I noticed that she had two ten minute rooms in quick succession, and after a brief chat with her I gave her a miss.What sort of girl thinks that telling me she does good blasen und ficken is any kind of selling point.
About a seven of the girls were overweight, and only three were really slim.
It felt like World on a Sunday early afternoon, except without the liveliness LOL.
The concept of the club seems to be a refined bar ambience, which is in my opinion rather misplaced. The place was low key enough without trying to make it even more low key..[/QUOTE]Maybe for the seasoned visitor to the area it lacks something but for the beginners it is the best club in the area. Its also good for the airport. The facilities to me are 4 star, its been said no quiet room but I went in over the weekend and it has a great quiet room with 6 beds. The sauna, steam room, showers, locker room, bar area, kino all the best. Music was chart, are & be and a bit dance there was very little Turkish music. As a new starter it makes you feel relaxed and not looked over all the time like the small clubs. There is a good outside space to take in the sun.
Breakfast is OK and self service. Lunch to evening is the same menu, its very limited unless you pay and its not worth the extra. But in the food area is strong WiFi.
Most important the LU it starts very slow and takes time to get better (but I knew this so I just chill). Around 3 PM a few more girls arrive and there are a couple decent enough girls to choose. I went with a tall Rom with the best rack I saw all trip. , firm EE's. The ugliest go round on an evening to pester you a bit but they are easy to get rid off. I had another session with a ROM redhead who is a little expensive but service very good. There are no stunners but its a good club to get you into the scene.
Can you imagine going to Mondial as your first club a lot would probably not be able to handle it. I went on Saturday and was the only British person in the place with 300 other people absolute chaos. I'm still recovering and will report soon.
[QUOTE=StrawJam;1903141]I went with a tall Rom with the best rack I saw all trip. , firm EE's.[/QUOTE]Name? Age? Might it be Lucy?
[QUOTE=StrawJam;1903141]Maybe for the seasoned visitor to the area it lacks something but for the beginners it is the best club in the area. [/QUOTE]I would disagree with this. For a newbie this club is not the place to go. If you're experienced you can weed through the sharks and pros. A newbie will get eaten alive here. Management is doing a very poor job with consistent service. Until this is done Oceans will never be an 'A' level club. Although my sessions are positive guys I talk to usually have less than stellar performances from the girls.
Best NRW club for newbies is LR for sure. A good combo for service with a decent lineup most nights.
[QUOTE=McAdonis;1903149]Name? Age? Might it be Lucy?[/QUOTE]If you gave me 50 names I would have no idea. No one else in the club had tits like these. At a guess 5 foot 6, around 22, and outside actually a little spotty. But inside dark so it was all good.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;1903154]I would disagree with this. For a newbie this club is not the place to go. If you're experienced you can weed through the sharks and pros. A newbie will get eaten alive here. Management is doing a very poor job with consistent service. Although my sessions are positive guys I talk to usually have less than stellar performances from the girls.
Best NRW club for newbies is LR for sure. A good combo for service with a decent lineup most nights.[/QUOTE]LR is too smokey and if you don't smoke you can get left out, they are all cuddling on the couches. The service is better in LR, but maybe you forgot the first time you visited a club you need to start somewhere and the first time its about feeling comfortable. In LR you sit on a stool and 15 girls try to make eye contact. In Oceans you just walk away. So in Oceans you may lose 50 or 100 euros discovering the scene but its all valuable learning for when you visit the next club. This is how I found it and It was a good place to learn. I was in LR last year in a day and do feel would be better on a summer evening but on your own on a rainy day I was I little disappointed.
For newbies it really doesn't make a difference. For an experience punter Oceans could be off-puting in regards to odds of decent service.
It's best to experience a better serviced club like LR if newbies have not done so.
I don't know. Most people probably don't consider them newbies in the girls department even if they haven't been to an FKK before either. And the people reading this forum for example should know how different girls can be at these clubs in service. Had my best service girl in a long time at oceans just a month and a half ago, and I feel you cannot really describe a club out of a few guys bad experiences.
Wouldn't surprice me at all if most guys who told about the bad service went with the same one or two girls at oceans. And I know who they are. Hehe. Because they are quite active 'working the floor'.
A good way of handling it is to check how long the girl stays in room prior to your session with her. And if you still wanna take a girl that finnishes guys in 15 or 20 minutes, then let her know, and be strict on time... this goes for every club... and all clubs I have been to have a few of these roadrunners...
Pistons. I agree about watching time girls are in room. The two attractive girls when I was there were repeatedly doing 10 minute rooms, even though there were almost no customers. If a girl does on short room then it may be the man's decision but if it is repeat behavior then it indicates a real cheat of a girl.
Straw Jam. You have hit on one thing I don't like about LR. The moment you sit down all eyes are upon you: maybe I'm too thin skinned
[QUOTE=StrawJam;1903160]LR is too smokey and if you don't smoke you can get left out, they are all cuddling on the couches. The service is better in LR, but maybe you forgot the first time you visited a club you need to start somewhere and the first time its about feeling comfortable. In LR you sit on a stool and 15 girls try to make eye contact. In Oceans you just walk away. So in Oceans you may lose 50 or 100 euros discovering the scene but its all valuable learning for when you visit the next club. This is how I found it and It was a good place to learn. I was in LR last year in a day and do feel would be better on a summer evening but on your own on a rainy day I was I little disappointed.[/QUOTE]As I reported after my last (and final) LR visit, the smoking problem is just so intense if you are not a smoker that it rules out going to LR at all for me. I liked the club the first time I visited but I think that was because there was football I really wanted to watch on the TV in the outside tented area, free beers in that fridge there and upon reentering the club part I saw a pretty girl I had two sessions with. The staff are friendly. But the smoke bowl is horrific. There is no real escape from it if the weather is poor and it is cold. The tent has heaters but few girls go in there. I'm afraid no level of service could compensate for the passive lung cancer that is a serious risk in that main lounge! Oceans on a bad night is a better and healthier environment than LR. It's facilities are worlds apart (massage / saunas / restaurant). I agree with Straw Jam that you can also circulate to see the girls instead of having to sit on the bar stools like girls in a Thailand soapy. All told, I'm afraid if you are not a smoker LR is going to be a nightmare and Oceans will be a better option.
[QUOTE=Optimist;1903549]Pistons. I agree about watching time girls are in room. The two attractive girls when I was there were repeatedly doing 10 minute rooms, even though there were almost no customers. If a girl does on short room then it may be the man's decision but if it is repeat behavior then it indicates a real cheat of a girl.
Straw Jam. You have hit on one thing I don't like about LR. The moment you sit down all eyes are upon you: maybe I'm too thin skinned[/QUOTE]Yes, I reported on the same thing after I was there. At 'early' hours the same girl did lots of rooms. It was a one girl show (I didn't find her taller friend that hot because I'm less into tall girls, but she is probably the other one you are referring to). But as soon as the rest of the line up appears it gets a lot better and the same girl even started staying longer in the room. I guess she is just mining the environment as much as she can between 5 and 7-8. Because you are right, she does stand out by a large amount that early in the night. Sexy as hell though (think I got her to stay 20-25 minutes with me, but I was the first who took her and it was almost no guys there then). At her peak she went down to 15 min to get through all the guys. But later at night I saw she was gone for about 25-30 min per time. What beats me is that none of the other lookers who arrive later grabs this opportunity and gives her a run for her money this early at night.
PS: 7 at Oceans is the same as 5 at other clubs (because it closes at 7 in the morning), so if a girl arrive at 8 in the night that is comparable to girls arriving at 6 in the other large clubs. And 6 is normally when night shift starts pouring in. So never expect anything great from a night club like this before at 7-8.
When I arrived around 1 am Fri, huge Turkish sausage fest. The worst I've seen ever. I would avoid those times. Clubs like this has a narrow window of decent ratio. It get's going late, and then becomes a huge sausagefest.
A group of Turkish infront of me all were handing the desk free tickets. That's probably why so many guys were present. Yup, 15 Euros minimum they will charge anyway, so might as will use it on something there.
LU was pretty much the same as my last visit. It's pretty much what Magnum was. Gets going late at night, huge sausagefest at certain point at night. Some random girls that show, etc..
First weekend after Ramadan may explain the Turkish crowd.
Yep, those free passes get handed out left and right. You see the bouncers handing stacks to Turkish guys just sitting on the sofa.
I was thinking the same after doing some rounds of clubs with high Turkish clientel. Mondial was a mad house. Samya in comparison was normal for a weekend. It was a really huge Turkish presence in the clubs after Ramadan.
Anybody ever try the full mirrored room? All around full mirrored. Ceiling has an image of the globe. Pretty cool room.
I sessioned with Lucy a little while back (6 weeks?) and reported fully on her with high praise only to be told she's ex ACA and not all that! Not my experience. Thought she was amazing and I'm possibly heading back next week. Can anyone who has been recently please let me know if she is still in attendance? Many thanks.
Saw her there past Fri.
[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1906456]
Anybody ever try the full mirrored room? All around full mirrored. Ceiling has an image of the globe. Pretty cool room.[/QUOTE]Unfortunately they only have one room like that. All their rooms should be like that! :
Saw it on their website, but was allways busy.
Anyone got any idea if Carly (Kathy from Wellcum) is still there, or if her stay was shortlived?
I got free entry ticket to Oceans from the hotel receptionist at Mercure hotel.
Gultig bis 29.09. 16 I think this means valid till 29. September.
I didn't use it because I wanted to spend my time at GT and LR.
[QUOTE=Guy93;1906915]I got free entry ticket to Oceans from the hotel receptionist at Mercure hotel.
Gultig bis 29.09. 16 I think this means valid till 29. September.
I didn't use it because I wanted to spend my time at GT and LR.[/QUOTE]I'm interested as I've yet to go to Oceans, was this the Mercure at Dusseldof Nord? I'll be staying there, was the receptionist giving these to any single male guest?
That was at Kaarst.
Interesting Mercure Kaarst handing out free passes for Oceans. Maybe Oceans set something up there to take away business from LR? If so have to give the marketing team some props.
I dunno how much of an effect that has. Lately, LR has been pretty busy even with 60 Entry. Even on a Thurs, that place was overcrowded with punters at night. Tuesday my fav was on wait for key when I got there. So, the business is sufficient for the size of LR. Oceans can take a larger crowd.
Oceans is def trying to gain notoriety handing them out to hotels. When I visit, I still only noticed minor percentage of other ethnicities. Mainly Turkish or more younger crowd with the free entry.
Given the significant Turkish crowd the Oceans is pulling, it makes sense Aca dropped their happy HR special to 20 Euros.
Just got back to Dus airport hotel from Oceans. First visit for me to this club. A short review here.
I went in too early at 18.00 and the place was empty. A few bored romanian hookers sitting on the bar chairs playing with their smart phones. At 21 the place was getting some life in it and later on the atmosphere improved.
I had 2 fucks. Lucy and Timea. Both 25 YO, both have big well shaped natural Cee cup tits. I wonder how I chose these girls, hah. Timea was going around topless all night long showing her well shaped big tits. Lucy was wearing denim shorts and a top and looking really sexy. I enjoyed Lucy more in the room. Such a sight looking at her riding and her boobs swinging. She gave a nice pole dancing show later in the main stage. A girl who stood out in the club. Her friend Marina from Aca was also present, more slim and fit as before.
I liked the place and the girls. A good change of routine to LR, GT and Aca. Unfortunately there were 2 moron ladies working at the reception. What a waste of space. Please Oceans employ someone from GT or LR to give punters some customer service.
[QUOTE=FinnishFucker;1908883] Unfortunately there were 2 moron ladies working at the reception. What a waste of space. Please Oceans employ someone from GT or LR to give punters some customer service.[/QUOTE]Customer service by Oceans staff is definitely one of, if not the worst, in NRW. There are times when the wait staff are too stupid to even take your order. Try waving one down and you get yelled at. Front reception is so chaotic. Staffed properly but maybe make 3 lines. Enter, exit, and for the girls. Bartenders are the only good staff they have there.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;1908926]Customer service by Oceans staff is definitely one of, if not the worst, in NRW. There are times when the wait staff are too stupid to even take your order. Try waving one down and you get yelled at. Front reception is so chaotic. Staffed properly but maybe make 3 lines. Enter, exit, and for the girls. Bartenders are the only good staff they have there.[/QUOTE]Especially the young round faced romanian girl at the reception was a desaster. She did not know prices of drinks, girls etc. Every question I asked she told me she don't know. Where do they find these fucking idiots.
[QUOTE=FinnishFucker;1909224]Where do they find these fucking idiots.[/QUOTE]'Girlfriends' of Romanian pimps / "managers" maybe? The job interview probably takes place in the form of a blow job, LOL!
[QUOTE=HornyHarry;1909532]'Girlfriends' of Romanian pimps / "managers" maybe? The job interview probably takes place in the form of a blow job, LOL![/QUOTE]I would not be so sure that this airhead knows what is a blowjob.
Maybe if you ask, she hands you a vacuum cleaner? LOL.
Hey guys,
I'll be arriving noon on Monday and my layover will go until 6:45 the next day. I'd like to hit my first FKK in the area, close to the airport. It looks like Oceans and Living Room are a short cab ride away. How are these places on a Monday? I'll probably head in around dinner time and leave around 3 am or so to catch my flight. I've only been to the FKK's in the Frankfurt region (oase, palace, mainhatten). Any tips? I'm really into curvy women, love blondes as well. I want to choose the right club since I don't think it would be practical to go to both in a day. Thanks!
Joe, for curvy women Oceans will likely be more suited for you. Don't expect much on a Monday night.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;1909615]Joe, for curvy women Oceans will likely be more suited for you. Don't expect much on a Monday night.[/QUOTE]Yeah I figured, but how bad? Any recommendations for a better Monday LU?
You should read up the threads, check the webpage, find out the pricing, girls talked about, transport, ambiance, food etc. It's all there.
My recommendation would be LR and when you are able to check into Duss on another stop-over (if still limited to Duss area), Oceans can be an alternative.
Yeah I'm currently reading now. Oceans website says 30 euro surcharge if arriving by cab! Anyhow, I'm not too fond of smoking and small spaces so LR might get annoying. Will continue reading.
[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1909645]
My recommendation would be LR [/QUOTE]You feel there are more "curvy women" at LR than Oceans?
[QUOTE=JoeShmoe;1909613]Hey guys,
I'll be arriving noon on Monday and my layover will go until 6:45 the next day. I'd like to hit my first FKK in the area, close to the airport. It looks like Oceans and Living Room are a short cab ride away. How are these places on a Monday? I'll probably head in around dinner time and leave around 3 am or so to catch my flight. I've only been to the FKK's in the Frankfurt region (oase, palace, mainhatten). Any tips? I'm really into curvy women, love blondes as well. I want to choose the right club since I don't think it would be practical to go to both in a day. Thanks![/QUOTE]Living Room is 20 km away from the airport, Oceans 5 km. Both clubs are good but they are very much different as you might have read. Oceans is much bigger than LR and girls don't smoke inside. I visited both the past week. LR on Wed and Oceans on Friday.
Monday is surely a slower day in the clubs but at least Living Room should be quite alive in the evening. There was one blond german girl with silicone tits and the Greek Miranda (fake blondes both). Mostly are brunette romanians and many dyed red haired babes around these days. Oceans had a few more blondes in the lineup if I remember correctly.
Visit both if you have money to burn. First LR and later Oceans and then back to the airport. And ask the taxi driver to drop you off 200 m from the Oceans entrance to avoid the surcharge, don't drive all the way to the door.
[QUOTE=FinnishFucker;1909719]Living Room is 20 km away from the airport, Oceans 5 km. Both clubs are good but they are very much different as you might have read. Oceans is much bigger than LR and girls don't smoke inside. I visited both the past week. LR on Wed and Oceans on Friday.
Monday is surely a slower day in the clubs but at least Living Room should be quite alive in the evening. There was one blond german girl with silicone tits and the Greek Miranda (fake blondes both). Mostly are brunette romanians and many dyed red haired babes around these days. Oceans had a few more blondes in the lineup if I remember correctly.
Visit both if you have money to burn. First LR and later Oceans and then back to the airport. And ask the taxi driver to drop you off 200 m from the Oceans entrance to avoid the surcharge, don't drive all the way to the door.[/QUOTE]How's the LR line up during the day? So it seems Oceans will be dead until at least 7 pm that's when I can probably head there if I go to both. As far as taxi, is there a landmark nearby I can tell the driver?
[QUOTE=JoeShmoe;1909725]How's the LR line up during the day? So it seems Oceans will be dead until at least 7 pm that's when I can probably head there if I go to both. As far as taxi, is there a landmark nearby I can tell the driver?[/QUOTE]LR is also quiet during the day until 18-19 but since it is a small club it does not feel so empty there. And also some of the nice looking girls start their shift early from my past experience.
There were some car shops close to Oceans, 200-300 m away if I remember correctly. It is industrial area, no good landmarks nearby. But you will manage well for sure.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;1909615]Joe, for curvy women Oceans will likely be more suited for you. Don't expect much on a Monday night.[/QUOTE]But only if he likes curvy women in their 30's and 40's. Or curvy africans which are hardly blonde. The lookers in Oceans are all slim. And deffinately the blonde lookers are slim. Some might have female 'curves', but thats as far as it goes...
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;1909689]You feel there are more "curvy women" at LR than Oceans?[/QUOTE]I can't say there are more curvier at Oceans, but could be more blondes at Oceans. The blonds I can think of at Oceans are Daisy Bul and Yolanda Ro. The so called Russian girl you probably know and Daisy's compadre. Another blond would be a Romanian ex-Aca with a curvey body if she is around.
I visited on a Mon night and 4/5 of those blonds will likely show.
I have noticed on several early week visits(to LR) that attendance was good for those days compare to other places.
My recommendations is mainly for service. There are several blondes and curvey can be found as well. Nora is a blond with nice curves. Lorena is another. Not sure if Gigi is still a blond who is curvey. Seda is blond although maybe too slim for him. Jane and Anita, both brunettes can be called curvey as well. The Turkish girls (if they are around, at least Eva) can be Curvey as well. So, there should be variety at LR on a given day.
Well Anda has a curvy ass. If that counts. And she's a blonde.
PL: If you only remember 2 blondes at Oceans, I wonder if you might want to take off your sunglasses next time you go there. I recall at least 7 from last time I was there. But they were among the slim ones... except maybe one of them who looked like she was 40...
Did't say there were only 2 blonds. What you saw awhile ago doesn't mean the LU will be the same on another visit.
[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1909861]Did't say there were only 2 blonds. What you saw awhile ago doesn't mean the LU will be the same on another visit.[/QUOTE]Well, your statement was rather vague. And I've yet to go to an FKK on two different nights when the lineup is exactly the same. I wonder if that ever happens. Must be at really small clubs if so.
Seems Oceans has an ok number of girls now consistently. But they need to hold on to their top girls for longer. Carly is nowhere to be seen. The reception girl who now thinks I'm german has no idea who's who among the girls. Can't see Sierra either or Raissa. Although Raissa's best friend is here. So she probably just has a day off, or on vacation
Andra looks better and better. And this hot poledancing ex Vive (madrid) girl Ellenor (sp?) Is equally hot, although not as passionate as Andra. A few other girls are also more than doable, but for me these two stands out.
So, the owner of Oceans is bankrupt it seems.
[URL]http://waz.m.derwesten.de/dw/panorama/duesseldorfer-rotlicht-groesse-bert-wollersheim-ist-bankrott-id11932378.html?service=mobile[/URL]
Guess that explains a few things. Now wonder what implications that will have to the club. Will he have to sell it? If so, will the new owner enforce new rutines at the club? Change in entrance fees, food etc?
[QUOTE=Pistons;1915404]So, the owner of Oceans is bankrupt it seems. [URL]http://waz.m.derwesten.de/dw/panorama/duesseldorfer-rotlicht-groesse-bert-wollersheim-ist-bankrott-id11932378.html?service=mobile[/URL] Guess that explains a few things. Now wonder what implications that will have to the club. Will he have to sell it? If so, will the new owner enforce new rutines at the club? Change in entrance fees, food etc?[/QUOTE]Wollersheim was only a manager at Oceans and left more than a year ago.
This message is from 9 April 2015.
[URL]http://www.bild.de/regional/duesseldorf/duesseldorf/wollersheim-zieht-sich-zurueck-40467072.bild.html[/URL]
Based on a previous report that the Mercure Hotel in Kaarst was giving out free passes to Oceans, went there yesterday to get some. The lady at reception had no idea what I was talking about. Apparently, they no longer have them, or that lady didn't know about them.
[QUOTE=Pistons;1915404]So, the owner of Oceans is bankrupt it seems.
[URL]http://waz.m.derwesten.de/dw/panorama/duesseldorfer-rotlicht-groesse-bert-wollersheim-ist-bankrott-id11932378.html?service=mobile[/URL]
Guess that explains a few things. Now wonder what implications that will have to the club. Will he have to sell it? If so, will the new owner enforce new rutines at the club? Change in entrance fees, food etc?[/QUOTE]AFAIK he is not and never was the owner of Oceans.
HB.
[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;1915467]Based on a previous report that the Mercure Hotel in Kaarst was giving out free passes to Oceans, went there yesterday to get some. The lady at reception had no idea what I was talking about. Apparently, they no longer have them, or that lady didn't know about them.[/QUOTE]I assume you stayed at the hotel and not just walked in to the reception and asked for free passes to Oceans, LOL.
[QUOTE=HessenBub;1915469]AFAIK he is not and never was the owner of Oceans.
HB.[/QUOTE]Are you sure about that? Look at the videos on Oceans website regarding the opening of the club.
That was a promotional show. They made him the frontman as he is (was) well known in the theüsseldorf redlight scene.
HB.
[QUOTE=Exodus8;1915470]I assume you stayed at the hotel and not just walked in to the reception and asked for free passes to Oceans, LOL.[/QUOTE]She had no idea if I was a guest or not since she did not ask. Perhaps only male receptionists give them out.
[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;1916023]She had no idea if I was a guest or not since she did not ask. Perhaps only male receptionists give them out.[/QUOTE]Or perhaps they give them out only to those they know they have given a key to?
[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;1916023]She had no idea if I was a guest or not since she did not ask. Perhaps only male receptionists give them out.[/QUOTE]I thought about this possibility.
[QUOTE=Pistons;1916071]Or perhaps they give them out only to those they know they have given a key to?[/QUOTE]Or perhaps the male recep gives them out during check-in.
Wonder if all Mercure hotels gives them out or just the one in Kaarst (perhaps just a 1 time thing).
I know quite a few Ibis and Mercure hotels have leaflet stands in the lobby which advertise local tourist attractions etc.
Bit of a long shot I guess...
Gentlemen,
I will be in Dusseldorf for two days (Wednesday and Thursday) and plan to spend one in LivingRoom, which I have been to many times. But would like to try another place in Dusseldorf as well. What do you think about Oceans versus Dolce Vita? I plan to go there mid-afternoon and stay until mid-night.
Oceans has more girls. About 60. Dolce Vita has less. Just about 30 from what I hear. (These are real numbers. Most ads and in lots of comments here on the boards the numbers in lots of clubs gets inflated...)
However Oceans is terribly quiet mid afternoon, so prepare for a few quiet hours before it gets started slowly between 6 and 8. If I had gone Oceans I'd probably wanted to stay at least untill 2.
Also note Oceans is open till 5 while DV is only open till 3 on a wednesday and 5 on thursday. So DV might start slowing down at 1-2 am as most clubs allways slows down 1-2 hours before closing... when DV starts to get busy I don't know however...
Hi, from 18 August to 22 August I'll be in Dusseldorf. Last year I went to magnum, it was a good experience but now I would rather go in another club. I have no car, I'll arrive with a flight. Many people say that Golden Time Bruggen is the best, but my hotel is in Dusseldorf and it is impossible reach it with public transport. So I'm searching for a good alternative. Is FKK Oceans a good alternative to GT?
Thanks.
This made my shortlist due to reports of one of all-time favorite FKK girls (probably in second place) Jennifer who is ex-Oase brunette with luscious lips being spotted. Sadly no sign of her but went with the attitude it would be a bonus if she was there so as not be disappointed.
My way there was by getting a commuter train to Dusseldorf Rath. From there it is maybe 10-15 min walk though not the easiest to find. If you try walking, turn right out of the station, take the first right which is a curved road which will get you onto a dual carriageway called Theodorstabre where you turn left and cross the road. It is on the road just before the Total petrol station so another right turn.
I got there at around 5 pm again and it was E65 entry. They didn't ask whether I had got a cab which seems to be a point of contention whereby they charge you more. Were maybe 30-40 girls on at the time which perhaps went to a peak of 50. I would say the usual mix for a FKK. Enough to keep most happy but not amazing and perhaps slightly below the Frankfurt clubs or comparable to Oase albeit I went to them over the weekend as opposed to a Tuesday. All the girls were wearing bras or bikinis and some were even wearing dresses. Although I've always liked lingerie have moved to the full nudity preference for a true FKK experience. Overall, I liked the outlay of the club. It's big and spanking new, decent outdoor area and the rooms are also fairly nice. The food was disappointing which might not be an issue save that I paid E30 for a fish meal which was bland and average. But of course it is the girls that make or break a club and the runners and riders (all Romanian) were:
15. Nellie: Lovely petite blonde with porcelain skin and a nice natural figure in her early to mid 20's. Had deluxe girl next door looks and gave a nice session consisting of a good blow job, some doggy and finished with a hand job. Only regret is I didn't make it a full hour and really let her indulge me. E50.
16. Antonia: Next session was with a brownish / blonde with porn star / slutty looks, slim, nice natural tits though slightly droopy, fairly attractive but not breathtaking. Session was good. She is a friendly girl and consisted of her giving me a nice, prolonged blowjob. E50.
17. Aidan and Oxana: I'm afraid this was the worst session I had in the whole 6 days. I made a series of rookie mistakes which could have prevented it. At Oceans some of the girls take turns doing belly dances whilst dressed in the belly dance garb which I've always found alluring. Aidan is a gorgeous young brunette with a striking similarity to Demi Moore and Oxana is a petite, young gorgeous blonde. I had my eye on them anyway but was totally captivated by their routine. After they finished, I followed them towards the changing rooms (despite not quite being ready for a third wind) and asked them to join me preferably with the outfits. They said they couldn't take the costumes but we went to a room anyway. They put on loud music and started gyrating which wasn't what I was interested in and they moved onto the bed with me. Started with Oxana blowing me for a bit before Aidan started. Was reasonable enough but they were going through the motions and I was struggling to get going. Oxana was nuzzling on one of my nipples and I asked Aidan to do the same as it often gets me going but she refused saying it was extra! I told her it wasn't and look at her friend. She had a bit of a face on and was an uncomfortable atmosphere. She was half heartedly pulling me off and Oxana wasn't up to much either. Had enough and curtailed the session before I lost my temper. E100.
I hung around for a while but it was getting late and the numbers were dropping off quickly. Decided to call it a night. When reception asked me how it was, told them generally positive but Aidan and Oxana were a big let down. She did say I should have told them at the time and she gave me a load of free entry cards. I doubt I'll be back as I much prefer Frankfurt and gave them to the cabbie (cab back to Dusseldorf HBF cost just under E30). Overall, the last session was a dampener but tried not it colour my prejudice against Oceans too much as it was the luck of the draw and I should have spent some time interviewing the girls rather than diving straight in.
imo Aidan is easily top 3 lookswise at Oceans and I see why you chose her. Like yourself, I also had a very poor session with her. Top 3 in all time worst / most awkward. She turned out to be a nice girl AFTER the session but too late never again.
My apologies. I thought I had previously posted a warning about her but search didn't turn up anything.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;1923450]imo Aidan is easily top 3 lookswise at Oceans and I see why you chose her. Like yourself, I also had a very poor session with her. Top 3 in all time worst / most awkward. She turned out to be a nice girl AFTER the session but too late never again.
My apologies. I thought I had previously posted a warning about her but search didn't turn up anything.[/QUOTE]Yes, definitely one to avoid but she'll get enough custom based on her looks to make it worthwhile as guess 90% of people don't read forums? Her friend Oxana seemed a bit embarrassed by it all so I wouldn't necessarily tar her with the same brush.
Visited Oceans twice and impressions are mixed.
First time I went in the evening after checking the web site that price was 50. They asked me for 60 and when I said that on web site it says 50, said oh, OK then 50. The girls quality was not very good, I still found two fuckable, but I expected more from this club.
Then I went lunch time at 1 pm after reading that entry from 1 pm to 2 pm is free. And indeed it was, including buffet, and there enough girls, few really hot. So surprisingly it was better than in the evening. I banged one cute Romanian with the look of "intelligent secretary", had a nice buffer and left back to office. What spolied it though was at the end they made me pay 15 euro for drinks. So it is not really free, it is 15 euro, but still great value.
Tomrifle, what time did you go in the evening? 30/50 Euros is an option, but 65 Euros is the full price. The only difference between 65 Euros and 50 is the free beer provided which ends at 1900. So, I don't see a reason to charge or pay 65 Euros after 1900.
[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1926875]Tomrifle, what time did you go in the evening? 30/50 Euros is an option, but 65 Euros is the full price. The only difference between 65 Euros and 50 is the free beer provided which ends at 1900. So, I don't see a reason to charge or pay 65 Euros after 1900.[/QUOTE]I think it was around 20:00. I got there for 50. But there was no 30 option.
30 option is still on the Web page and I have paid that on a night visit.
I had a Frei ticket left over so stopped by Sat after midnight. Major sausage fest like last time. Too many men, hardly girls available.
LU has changed somewhat. Girls I've seen on past visit, weren't around. No Daisy, Erica at GT last time. Maybe 4-5 stand-out girls, but other than them the LU wasn't good. Given such a high ratio of men to not many girls available, wasn't worth it. If those girls were available on a slower day, could be worth visiting, but there are regular girls (not much seeing how much the LU changes), and those that show on busy times(which is a worst sausage fest of it'so kind). This time around, attendance was lower than back in June-July. This is one of those clubs with high turnover. Magnum dejavu.
Not a club I would visit during the day, and I'must sure the best LU would be on the weekend when at some point the place get packed with a ridiculous amount of men. Mainly Turkish. It's definitely due to free ticket. There are making money on high volume of clientele as even free entry, one must pay 15 Euros.
Reception attempted to rip me off. With free ticket, you pay minimum of 15 Euros if you don't rack up more than that amount on your tab. But, they told me I owed them 50. I was not told this when handing my free entry card. Shady business practices.
Just a warning.
[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1932925]
Reception attempted to rip me off. With free ticket, you pay minimum of 15 Euros if you don't rack up more than that amount on your tab. But, they told me I owed them 50. I was not told this when handing my free entry card. Shady business practices.[/QUOTE]Did you end up paying 50? McA and I have used these free entry tickets in the past with no issues. I still have a stack of these 'free' entry tickets. How am I going to use them all?
I had no issue last time. This time I ran into the issue.
Going to check out the free entry stuff tomorrow and report back.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;1932930]McA and I have used these free entry tickets in the past with no issues. [/QUOTE]I used the "free" entry card about 4-5 times. The rule was consistent on those occasions. Reception explained I had to spend a minimum of 15 EUR on food and drinks. However, on one occasion, I tried to enter at 11 pm on a Saturday night. The receptionist (chubby Romanian woman with glasses) told me the minimum was 50 EUR. I turned around and walked toward the door. Security recognized me from a previous visit and asked why I was leaving in such a hurry. I explained. The chubby receptionist and security had a private conversation. Security returned to me and was unable to make an exception to the policy for me.
So I left and drove toward Acapulco. In essence, I drove an additional 30 minutes to Acapulco, paid 40 EUR, and ate the last three chicken wings. Had I remained at Oceans, I would have paid 50 EUR and probably eaten a 20 EUR entree, 5 EUR dessert, and drank 4-5 beers. The wise option would have been to remain at Oceans, but I am stubborn.
About nine days later on a Monday I returned to Oceans. Used my last Oceans free card. On this day, the thin tall Romanian receptionist decided to honor the 15 EUR minimum.
Just to add, me pay 50? Fuck no!
Well at least I got in for free. And he did say I had to spend 15 euro for food / drinks. The free buffet I ate at 13.30 before I had a nap was much better than early food at sharks / oase / gt / artemis or anywhere else I've been either (perhaps except Paradise food). So its a different pricing. But I don't think it is that bad considering the prices for entry at other clubs.
Not to mention the fact that there are girls here like Andra (just back from holliday), Eleny (not Ellenor as I wrote before), and even a new stunner named Andrea now who used to work in switzerland in a club in Lugano, and new blonde looker Mery. Dea (who I thought was named Andrea before) is also looking better than before. And there are others here too. So for a busy night I'd say there are more 10 girls that are doable instead of just 5. And parts of the excess meat (2-4s seems to be gone now and replaced by some 6-8s). With just half the amount of girls as sharks/oase (50 instead of 100), this is more than approved.
But yes, I do miss Carly and Raissa, so hoping the top girls here atm stay now.
So I personally don't need more girls than this. But up to you lot if you want to be haters.
Repeated on Eleny again when she arrived. And even better than last time. So the small complaints I would have had last time is all forgotten now. Top score...
Putting Oceans in the same league as some of the other shabby nrw clubs full of turks would be a huge misstake... it is leagues above, and even the turks here are nice...
Talked to the manager tonight as well. By next summer they have a pool up in the back garden. So the Ocean is finally comming to Oceans:).
4 out of 4 girls kissed tonight. Cannot get any better than that.
According to a local the line up tonight was better than it had been for weeks. Will return tomorrow, so say hi if you feel like joining. I ended up with a shortlist of 11 girls when looking at my notes:
Andra (session), Eleny (session), Andrea (session), Dea, Alina (session), Malina, Verina, Annabel, Lorena, Mery, Antonia (sp? Malinas best friend at least). (Malina and Lorena are next up I feel)
7 or 8 of them are between 20 and 22 years old. And lots of firm ass and excellent figures. Both Eleny and Malina like to dance at the pole. It almost felt like a contest at one point. What is nice is that some of the girls here take on sexy dresses for nights out as well. Which is a nice change of pace from the all nakedness of hessen, or the corsette only dresses with push ups at other clubs. The 2 black haired beauty best friends Alina and Lorena had these really sexy condom dresses on making their hot bodies stand out really well:).
And I got a few free entry tickets also. No loss if they dont work though.
About 60-65 girls tonight. Same as on my former visits. But the manager claimed there were 100+ on some saturdays and the record was 145 at one night. I guess that puts it in the same league as the largest hessen clubs too...
Paid 18 euro at exit (3 drinks for 6e total and one meal for 12e. Pluss the free buffet early on)
- Opening of the club is moved one hour. So opens at 13.00. (In practise they do open at 12.45) (Close is unchanged. So 5.00 on Sunday-Thursday and 07.00 on Fri. / sat.). Website and google hasnt updated this...
- The elegant dress option is now free of charge.
- Free buffet is also moved one hour back (13.00-15.00 now. At night it is unchanged. So free food starts at 03.00. Not sure about Fri. / sat at night).
This felt like a good change yesterday as I saw more girls in the afternoon than prior visits. I guess reducing the desert walk in between nothingness by one hour has helped a bit.
[QUOTE=Pistons;1933600]Well at least I got in for free. And he did say I had to spend 15 euro for food / drinks. The free buffet I ate at 13.30 before I had a nap was much better than early food at sharks / oase / gt / artemis or anywhere else I've been either (perhaps except Paradise food). So its a different pricing. But I don't think it is that bad considering the prices for entry at other clubs.
Not to mention the fact that there are girls here like Andra (just back from holliday), Eleny (not Ellenor as I wrote before), and even a new stunner named Andrea now who used to work in switzerland in a club in Lugano, and new blonde looker Mery. Dea (who I thought was named Andrea before) is also looking better than before. And there are others here too. So for a busy night I'd say there are more 10 girls that are doable instead of just 5. And parts of the excess meat (2-4s seems to be gone now and replaced by some 6-8s). With just half the amount of girls as sharks/oase (50 instead of 100), this is more than approved...[/QUOTE]Sorry but are you really speaking about he FKK Ocean, visited this club 6 or 7 times in the last months just sessioned 1 girl, yes the premises are nice but the LU is so so at least for me.
Well lots of girls were on vacation in August. Perhaps you got there on the wrong dates. Sounds like that was the case at all FKK's, and why I didn't visit any in August. But now most have returned. Like at other FKK's. And perhaps the clientelle makes it so that there is a larger difference in line up between weekend (Fri. / sat) and weekdays (Mon.-wed) at Oceans compared to the more tourist heavy clubs like palace / artemis / oase etc.
[QUOTE=ExpatLover;1934937]Sorry but are you really speaking about he FKK Ocean, visited this club 6 or 7 times in the last months just sessioned 1 girl, yes the premises are nice but the LU is so so at least for me.[/QUOTE]I've been reading Pistons reports with some interest. I've been to Oceans 4 times now all over the space of the last year and I"be got to say I really like the club. Maybe I just got lucky with LU but on each of my visits I've been impressed. And I am picky. I've often commented on my disappointment at Sharks and Oase when others have raved about the LU being so good. As a tourist I cannot comment on generalities on LU as only those who are frequenting weekly or bi-weekly can really say if the current trend is good / bad etc. For us tourists we can only comment on the quality we observed when we were present. I've seen good and bad LUs in the big clubs and as reported a few months ago I went to a tiny club outside Dresden (other FKK forum) which only had low numbers but the options were really very good.
I'm delighted to hear that a pool is going in at the rear of Oceans. That back area is not great to walk around as it is so bland. A pool and some loungers will greatly improve the Oceans experience on a good weather day.
Also good to read of Pistons' take on the LU getting even better. I've found the food quality, facilities, and the rooms much better than a lot of the other NRW and indeed Hessen Clubs. I have an upcoming trip to Frankfurt (for business) but will try to get over to Oceans because whereas in FRA I always seem to end up a bit disappointed, that has not happened to me so far at Oceans.
Indeed, and right now I would actually put the Oceans lineup ahead of oase or sharks too, even if I felt the sharks line up was good too. Oase LU seemed to have taken a hit though... There were more good looking girls at Oceans than those I had the names of too. (it was Sabrina and not Antonia). Some 5 others I could have mentionned also). But yes, the presentation does improve when they can wear some sexy dress / clothes too. But average age is quite young, and the girls dance alot and not just sit around as in most other clubs. Making them more fit it seems too. Not to mention that some girls there have exceptionally beautiful faces. Malina, Andra, Eleny, Lorena, Alina, Andrea for example. And lineup seems to be more diverse too now with just as many hot black haired girls as blondes now. And both tall and short optics.
What is the current rate for entry without "free ticket"? What does it include? What are the rates for sessions with ladies without any extras?
[QUOTE=DietCoke;1935493]What is the current rate for entry without "free ticket"? What does it include? What are the rates for sessions with ladies without any extras?[/QUOTE]Before 14.00: free entry (but you must spend minimum 15 euro on a la carte food / drinks (buffet before 15.00 is free).
After 14.00:
- 30 e (but everything is a la carte).
- 50 e (one meal and free non alcoholic drinks included. Meal is normally at 15 e).
- 65 e (one meal and free drinks. Even alcoholic drinks are free before 19.00).
If you say nothing, they will assume you want the 65 e option.
+30 e if you come by taxi.
[QUOTE=Pistons;1935496]
+30 e if you come by taxi.[/QUOTE]Rly strange business model. What if you take the taxi and walk 100 m to the club? LOL.
[QUOTE=Pistons;1935496]Before 14.00: free entry (but you must spend minimum 15 euro on a la carte food / drinks (buffet before 15.00 is free).
After 14.00:
- 30 e (but everything is a la carte).
- 50 e (one meal and free non alcoholic drinks included. Meal is normally at 15 e).
- 65 e (one meal and free drinks. Even alcoholic drinks are free before 19.00).
If you say nothing, they will assume you want the 65 e option.
+30 e if you come by taxi.[/QUOTE]Reminds me of this;
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFOvldn_IRw[/URL]
[QUOTE=Exodus8;1935504]Rly strange business model. What if you take the taxi and walk 100 m to the club? LOL.[/QUOTE]Guessing the taxi driver would follow you (as in a million places in asia that has the same model) LOL.
The assumption is that people are stupid...
[QUOTE=Pistons;1935496]Before 14.00: free entry (but you must spend minimum 15 euro on a la carte food / drinks (buffet before 15.00 is free).
After 14.00:
- 30 e (but everything is a la carte).
- 50 e (one meal and free non alcoholic drinks included. Meal is normally at 15 e).
- 65 e (one meal and free drinks. Even alcoholic drinks are free before 19.00).
If you say nothing, they will assume you want the 65 e option.
+30 e if you come by taxi.[/QUOTE]At what time start attractive beauties like Sierra or Anda?
Very simple in the few cases I go by taxi in a club I tell the taxi driver at beginning I'm a regular and that mean he doesn't get a comission for me, has always worked.
[QUOTE=Pistons;1935524]Guessing the taxi driver would follow you (as in a million places in asia that has the same model) LOL.
The assumption is that people are stupid...[/QUOTE]First time I went to the club I walked along the path from the Van der Valk hotel. Deserted and IMHO not to be done alone. Others have said its a nice walk. Hmmm. Not aware of any issues but it is a completely deserted pathway. I wouldn't do it again and I'm not normally wary of being alone anywhere. Second trip I got a cab and following a post from I think Hessen Bub asked the cabbie to stop at nearby Eisenhertz Bikes on Oberhausener St. It is close but alas too close. Maybe I should have just gotten out and walked to the bike shop but I didn't. I walked straight to Oceans, only to be followed in by the taxi driver only I didn't see him behind me. When they asked if I'd come by taxi I said no and that I'd walked from the Van Der Valk on the pathway! I hear a guy pipe up behind me in German I didn't understand, turn around and clearly the cabbie is telling them I've walked 50 meters if that as he had brought me (from central Dusseldorf) - he clearly wanted his commission. Rather than look even worse than I already did, having lied, I decided truth was the best policy, and said I thought the extra fare was crazy, that I wouldn't come in at all if forced to pay it, which would mean the club would lose the entrance fee and the cabbie wouldn't get anything. I said I deliberately got dropped off close to walk the final bit to avoid the stupid extra charge. At first the frosty receptionist told me I had to pay the extra 30 euros. It was only when I then said "ok forget it. I'll go to Living Room" that they changed their minds and let me in for 65 euro. No negotiation on that and I didn't try. I don't know if they paid the cabbie or not.
Moral of the tale. If you get a cab to the club, make sure you get out far enough away for this not to be an issue. Best suggestion I have is to take the cab to the be&be Dusseldorf Airport Hotel - 650 metres from Oceans just off TheodorsraBe. I did that the last 2 visits and actually left the cab and walked into the hotel lobby, used the toilet and the cabbie had left by the time I'd gone.
All a nuisance just to get to a club and pay 30 e less. But then of course that 30 e can be better spent in a room.
[QUOTE=PayForIt;1935545]First time I went to the club I walked along the path from the Van der Valk hotel. Deserted and IMHO not to be done alone. Others have said its a nice walk. Hmmm. Not aware of any issues but it is a completely deserted pathway. I wouldn't do it again and I'm not normally wary of being alone anywhere.
[/QUOTE]The path from VdV hotel is perfectly safe. Worst case scenario is getting attacked by a German Shepherd.
[QUOTE=FinnishFucker;1935546]The path from VdV hotel is perfectly safe. Worst case scenario is getting attacked by a German Shepherd.[/QUOTE]If that's the human type I think I can take him. But if it's the four-legged version you've just guaranteed I'll never take that path again!
[QUOTE=PayForIt;1935553]If that's the human type I think I can take him. But if it's the four-legged version you've just guaranteed I'll never take that path again![/QUOTE]If you are scared of walking in that area around Oceans, you should get a niqab ASAP and build a fence around your house too. Just in case ofcourse.
[QUOTE=PayForIt;1935545]
Moral of the tale. If you get a cab to the club, make sure you get out far enough away for this not to be an issue. Best suggestion I have is to take the cab to the be&be Dusseldorf Airport Hotel - 650 metres from Oceans just off TheodorsraBe. I did that the last 2 visits and actually left the cab and walked into the hotel lobby, used the toilet and the cabbie had left by the time I'd gone.
All a nuisance just to get to a club and pay 30 e less. But then of course that 30 e can be better spent in a room.[/QUOTE]Thanks for yr story I shall check this trick out if I don't manage to use the public transportation and walk to the club.
If I had to go to Oceans by cab, I'd skip the club.
HB.
[QUOTE=Pistons;1935496]Before 14.00: free entry (but you must spend minimum 15 euro on a la carte food / drinks (buffet before 15.00 is free).
After 14.00:
- 30 e (but everything is a la carte).
- 50 e (one meal and free non alcoholic drinks included. Meal is normally at 15 e).
- 65 e (one meal and free drinks. Even alcoholic drinks are free before 19.00).
If you say nothing, they will assume you want the 65 e option.
+30 e if you come by taxi.[/QUOTE]Nice to see that it's not only the girls that rip off customers (paying E30 extra if arriving by taxi, WTF!), but also some clubs by seemingly endless upselling.
But I guess a sucker (or an American tourist) is born every minute.
[QUOTE=HornyHarry;1935673]Nice to see that it's not only the girls that rip off customers (paying E30 extra if arriving by taxi, WTF!), but also some clubs by seemingly endless upselling.
But I guess a sucker (or an American tourist) is born every minute.[/QUOTE]The idea is that they pay the taxi drivers to market the club since competition is so fierce. But instead of raising price for everyone in order to pay the 'marketing budget', they only toss it on the suckers. So in essense it gets cheaper for us this way compared to the western philosophy of packaging everything the same. The pricing at Oceans reminds me alot of micropayment prices heavily used in asia where competition sometimes is 3-5 times that of different european markets (not talking sex now). So in essense it is better for the clients. I am not complaining, but it seems most here are in a box. In a heavily competitive fkk market, this might show to be a winning formula. Like how Ryanair is larger in volume and creates more revenue than old Lufthansa... especially when Ryanair had the hottest flight attendances and the newest aircrafts while Lufthansa (and United) flies 25 year old planes with angry 50 year old flight attendances...
Other clubs also pay commission to cab drivers. 10-15 EUR. But they don't charge it to the client. That's fucking stupid. Would be a reason for me to avoid the club.
HB.
[QUOTE=HessenBub;1935835]Other clubs also pay commission to cab drivers. 10-15 EUR. But they don't charge it to the client. That's fucking stupid. Would be a reason for me to avoid the club.
HB.[/QUOTE]I take it you haven't studied economy and pricing strategies? Where do you think the commission money comes from?
[QUOTE=Pistons;1935964]I take it you haven't studied economy and pricing strategies? Where do you think the commission money comes from?[/QUOTE]I take it you are getting my point but acting like you don't. At least I hope that for you.
Entry you pay as a guest:
Oase: 70€ no matter if you arrive by cab, foot or car.
Palace: 75€ no matter if you arrive by cab, foot or car.
Sharks: 65€ no matter if you arrive by cab, foot or car.
LivingRoom: 60€ no matter if you arrive by cab, foot or car.
Oceans: 65€ if you arrive by foot or car. 95€ if you arrive by cab.
You got it? Or should I try again?
HB.
[QUOTE=HessenBub;1935835]Other clubs also pay commission to cab drivers. 10-15 EUR. But they don't charge it to the client. That's fucking stupid. Would be a reason for me to avoid the club.
HB.[/QUOTE]What I hate in this club, is not honest desk about entry rate, so I don't want to pay entry in this club, I will only go before 2 pm, to look at the casting.
Which other clubs charge extra for arriving by taxi? Magnum comes to mind and look where that club is now.
I think Oceans is taking the clientele from Magnum. With Presence of Oceans, it's another club girls try out. This is why there is giod changes in the LU besides the share of the regular girls.
I'm not all that thrilled about Oceans as an addition in the area. Another club that girls move around in.
With the free ticket, brings in cheap clients. That's a complaint I've heard. Low ballers. Similarly, I've heard clientele asking for free-bees at Magnum in the past.
The pricing is not handled straightforwardly as it gives an idea of not being straightforward with customers which I have quams about. Other clubs, when it'starts discount time, they ask for the lower entry. H7 tells you entry is free during early hrs.
Even at DV they would ask clients to pay additional with excuses of fair time, etc.
I like management to be trustworthy. Sure, if you are not a clueless tourist and read the website, you can get the discount. Among the crowd of mainly Turks, I see the odd tourists that ended up there. The unaware ones that got charged 65 on a sausagefest night wondering why so much men.
Exodus, I'mean interested in your take if you visit.
[QUOTE=HessenBub;1936024]I take it you are getting my point but acting like you don't. At least I hope that for you.
Entry you pay as a guest:
Oase: 70 no matter if you arrive by cab, foot or car.
Palace: 75 no matter if you arrive by cab, foot or car.
Sharks: 65 no matter if you arrive by cab, foot or car.
LivingRoom: 60 no matter if you arrive by cab, foot or car.
Oceans: 65 if you arrive by foot or car. 95 if you arrive by cab.
You got it? Or should I try again?
HB.[/QUOTE]LOL. .
I paid 18,28 and 21 on my last 3 visits. Arrived by car...
Less money spent on entrance = more money left for the zimmer
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;1936031]Which other clubs charge extra for arriving by taxi? Magnum comes to mind and look where that club is now.[/QUOTE]Oase, GT and Sharks does. As does most FKK's. But they have packaged it into the price to hide the extra expences. Come on. This is micro economics 101.
I do agree on one thing PL mentions however. that the cheap ballers (turks mainly, and some also used to visit magnum) are there in a bit too large amount. But as opposed to Magnum, Oceans has a much better security with bouncers and the girls feel safe. If some of these turks are criminals, they are calm and doesnt do much at Oceans. Some even share shisha (or they ask if I want at least), fruit, I even got offered champaigne by one (too bad I was driving) etc etc and not a single one of the turks at Oceans has been rude. As opposed to Magnum. Maybe its the atmosphere. And a slightly higher minimum price with more added to it would perhaps be better. Maybe they change that once more non turks start appearing or once they have made a few more upgrades like the pool is one example of...
[QUOTE=Pistons;1936045]Oase, GT and Sharks does. As does most FKK's. But they have packaged it into the price to hide the extra expences. Come on. This is micro economics 101.[/QUOTE]
I'm using this quote as my new Signature.
Please let me know the last time you saw an Indian taxi driver walk into GT to get paid off.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;1936052]I'm using this quote as my new Signature.
Stop trolling.[/QUOTE]Only if you add your own comment to it first. Or it would make less sense.
Just arrive before 14.00 and entrance is free (but you must pay minimum 15e on a la carte)... there are no tricks to that...
At GT I dont see them walk into the club, but they surely talked to guys at the parking and something was handed to the cabby at least... not that he was an indian though. lol, you are trying to be tricky I sense : p
I'm still trying to figure out what expences are. Maybe you took a different version of Economics than I did.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;1936060]I'm still trying to figure out what expences are. Maybe you took a different version of Economics than I did.[/QUOTE]"I call it what I want" (TM HB).
I learn from the master as Exodus puts it:).
(Yes, I didnt take the english language version. So true)
[QUOTE=Sirioja;1936027]What I hate in this club, is not honest desk about entry rate, so I don't want to pay entry in this club, I will only go before 2 pm, to look at the casting.[/QUOTE]Makes sense since its will costs just 15 e according to Pistons.
[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1936038]
I like management to be trustworthy. Sure, if you are not a clueless tourist and read the website, you can get the discount. Among the crowd of mainly Turks, I see the odd tourists that ended up there. The unaware ones that got charged 65 on a sausagefest night wondering why so much men.
Exodus, I'mean interested in your take if you visit.[/QUOTE]Yeah don't like to deal with the issue of entry fee.
was planning to make a visit to Duss but decided to stick to Fra on my last trip. planning on a trip next month.
Master PL I promise to report you know I luv to ramble about new clubs (pros and cons), LOL.
- casting at 14.00 is terrible. Good luck at that sirioja:) prepare to stick around for 6 hours if that is so.
- Exodus, according to me, and also the Oceans website. Its there in black and white also:).
[QUOTE=Pistons;1936168]- casting at 14.00 is terrible. Good luck at that sirioja:) prepare to stick around for 6 hours if that is so.
- Exodus, according to me, and also the Oceans website. Its there in black and white also:).[/QUOTE]Because of you, so I don't want to miss beauties, it's so difficult for me to find a few, when FRA is only average at the moment and my 2 Kate away. I will ask again to pretty face Anda if she is OK for, but I don't want to give my money to such staff who dare to ask me 80 € because messe, so I think it will be a long boring afternoon, I hope I can find a ball to play and being strong for beauties when they will wake up and spend my money with girls who worth to take all my time with them.
Other bad thing at Oceans is dark rooms, I like good light to enjoy beauty.
[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1936038]With Presence of Oceans, it's another club girls try out. This is why there is giod changes in the LU besides the share of the regular girls.
I'm not all that thrilled about Oceans as an addition in the area. Another club that girls move around in.
.[/QUOTE]You are right about the idea of too many FKK's. The market feels saturated enough. Perhaps especially in nrw / hessen / saarland/baden w. It gets harder to find the good girls if they start moving around. It gets more difficult to narrow down the list of clubs to visit.
And in theory, creating more bowls for the fishes dilutes the average line ups.
But my hope is that newer, better clubs will bring some of the old clubs to their knees. There are unfortunately too many people spending money on far too high entrance fees at these clubs. So business is very good for the owners. FKK's are cashcows. The only competition we can sense in the FKK business is between the girls. Not so much between the clubs. So far untill now at least. So far, untill now the clubs have mostly all stuck to the same old pricing mechanism of bundling. But not now in this situation. Not in nrw. Perhaps that can bring down some of the old dinosaur clubs not being able to renew themselves.
Perhaps also the movement of the girls between the clubs are so great now that girls won't settle for the lesser good / fancy clubs if they have the opportunity to change club. After all, the clientelle moves to the clubs with the best line ups in optics and service. So when the girls have this lead in where we choose to go, why would they choose a run down old location as opposed to a brand new shiny one with larger space and more rooms?
Lastly not many girls I know at Oceans have told me that they come from other nrw clubs. Just maybe one of my favourites there worked at Magnum (although I can't recall where all worked), a few worked in Amsterdam at some club there. A few in Austria and switzerland. One in Madrid etc. So they don't just take girls from clubs nearby. They seem to draft girls from the whole european market.
Went to Oceans on Sunday, Sep 11th. I arrived at around 9:30 pm. I love the club itself but maybe it was a slow night. I didn't find that many girls, if any, that was like "I must go to the room with her" type. I went with two girls:
[B]Tamea?[/B], 25, mix from ROM and ESP, nice perky see, session was good and I would recommend her.
[B]Tiffany[/B], it was late in the night and she was one of the better-looking one left. Session was good but she's really not my type.
I found this one bartender girl very good looking, and probably better looking than all of them at the club. I still enjoy Oceans and would love to go back again if they have nice lineup.
I was there the same day. Slowest visit I've had so far. Got there about the same time as you also. Two girls had just gone on a short vacation for a few days. One had her period. Another one I just saw once. One was in the room the whole time. And there was almost no guys. I think most were just tired after the weekend, and half the lineup from Friday I didn't see. They looked tired at least except for a few. Been there on sundays before when it was better. But perhaps going on Wednesday or Thursday is better if you want to avoid the weekeend crowds of Fri. / sat. Although that's where there are most girls. Only really Lorena and Mery out of my top 10 (perhaps Annabell too) seemed available most of the night aside for some 30min or 1h sessions I think they went to. And that thai or philippina girl I havent talked to who looks fairly good. (Rough numbers: 40 girls on sunday where a few just strolled into the club once living at the premise I guess. 60-65 on thursday, 75 on friday where a few guys I talked to even complained that was below average for a weekend)
There are stand-out girls, and they looked pretty good. The downside is, some may wear too much, and of course the place can get packed full of men.
Dea, who was an utter disaster is one of the prettiest one and can dance really well. Was attracted to her moves to be honest. She was on stage with another girl with shaggy blond hair with colorful bikini. Prettiest one there or one of the prettiest anywhere IMO, at least from a distance. And met a pretty brunette who I believed German. Both never seen before, hot with sex appeal. On a slower day if they were both around, available, much more worthwhile, that is if they are not disasters like Dea.
[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1936998]There are stand-out girls, and they looked pretty good. The downside is, some may wear too much, and of course the place can get packed full of men.
Dea, who was an utter disaster is one of the prettiest one and can dance really well. Was attracted to her moves to be honest. She was on stage with another girl with shaggy blond hair with colorful bikini. Prettiest one there or one of the prettiest anywhere IMO, at least from a distance. And met a pretty brunette who I believed German. Both never seen before, hot with sex appeal. On a slower day if they were both around, available, much more worthwhile, that is if they are not disasters like Dea.[/QUOTE]I never went with Dea yet. But she does give out smiling looks. Maybe ymmv. Her friend with the colorfull bikini is probably Eleny (who has been there for 4-5 months) if she was 1.60-1.63 or Malina if she was 1.65 to 1.70. Both two of the hottest girls anywhere and shaggy blonde and both dancing on stage. The little german looking brunette (who is very much romanian) could be Lorena (who is new from Amsterdam). Her best friend who she hangs with: Alina is a black haired girl with a hot body who looks a bit iraqi perhaps (but also rom). Or one of the two taller new brunettes I havent talked to. Most of the top lookers at Oceans are young. Below 23. So they dont all seem to have the same stamina as some older girls at other clubs. They seem to party harder on crowded nights. Some are very fit. But they get tired in their heads faster perhaps. Maybe thats why this sunday was a bit slow...
This club is just a shame with a not honest staff. Arrived at 1 pm, first on the parking with the helicopter, was asked if first time? Honest answer: NO, if I live in Germany? Honest answer: NO. It s written frei entritt 13-15 h, but was asked 65 , because foreigner, so I left, I don t give money to people who are not honest and their girls can keep on crying for business. Turkish guys don t give good business to girls, good girls better go in better clubs. Erika and Valentina didn't stay at Oceans.
Shame for Oceans staff.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;1937742]This club is just a shame with a not honest staff. Arrived at 1 pm, first on the parking with the helicopter, was asked if first time? Honest answer: NO, if I live in Germany? Honest answer: NO. It s written frei entritt 13-15 h, but was asked 65 , because foreigner, so I left, I don t give money to people who are not honest and their girls can keep on crying for business. Turkish guys don t give good business to girls, good girls better go in better clubs. Erika and Valentina didn't stay at Oceans.
Shame for Oceans staff.[/QUOTE]My answers should be: yes its my first time at this club and yes I live in Frankfurt but doesn't speak german.
Frei entritt bitte, LOL.
[QUOTE=Exodus8;1937822]My answers should be: yes its my first time at this club [b]and yes I live in Frankfurt [/b]but doesn't speak german.
Frei entritt bitte, LOL.[/QUOTE]Difficult when you pull up in a 'Porsche' with French number plates. 😉
[QUOTE=HornyHarry;1937877]Difficult when you pull up in a 'Porsche' with French number plates. 😉[/QUOTE]Is it true the spelling for 'Porsche' in French is "Peugeot"?
'Hallo, wer kommst du aus?
'Essen'.
Or 'Paris, aber ich wohne im Bochum'
Or
'Wohnst du hier im Deutchland?
'Ja, klar!'
'Warst du shon einmal hier?
'JA, klar!
Black armband received!
It is all about being streetsmart. If you don't play like this, you get screwed over in most places in this world. Places like Sharks, Oase etc are the exceptions really. Try asia, South America, Middle East, Africa etc.
"Hallo, wer kommst du aus?" - "Hello, who do you come from?" clearly a local at the reception. ;)
HB.
[QUOTE=HessenBub;1937920]"Hallo, wer kommst du aus?" - "Hello, who do you come from?" clearly a local at the reception. ;)
HB.[/QUOTE]Wer, woher. Sounds the same. Just act like its nothing special and you can say anything.
Or as a thai would say about the he-she's, 'same, same, but different'
I once had an uncle who was a sailor. His english and german was something special... he taught me I could say anything and it was all good ;)
After all, sailors invented mongering on a global scale.
(Only locals at the reception by the way)
I was at Oceans tonight after hearing how great the lineup is nowadays. Some people have said it beats the Frankfurt clubs.
First of all let me say that the facilities and food at Oceans are good, but the free meals which you pay more for are not worth it, take the 30 and not 50 Euro option, the free meals suck.
The lineup is okay like Acapulco 2 years ago. The last time I was in Sharks was in January, compared to that the lineup is not close or good. Furthermore the service at Aca was a bit better.
I am usually at this club on Sunday so I reserved my judgement about the lineup, however this time I was here late Saturday night, from 17:00 to midnight and the club does not compare to Sharks in January, at least not tonight.
You were at Oceans for 7 hours and left before midnight? In that time you sampled so many girls that you know the service in general? Chances are that when leaving that early, you probably didnt even see or notice 20 girls that were working tonight. And a few top girls might also have been locked up in a room. Agree on the free meals. Better take the 30 option and you get a wider variety of a la carte daily dishes... I didnt like sharks LU this last winter, so each to their own... sharks LU is better now than last winter...
In every club you must try at least 10 girls at the very minimum to get some sort of impression. Only at that point you also should have noticed some top performers. Sharks also has an overweight of bad performers atm at least, but most returning visitors never go with these girls, so they also never talk about them... and new guys never knows this...
Like when I went to GT this summer for the first time. First 4 session's = bad. Just after that I started hitting some good ones... and if the girls see you at a club several times, they might consider you more of a regular, so service might rise...
Yup, don't expect high services here.
I've been with 8 girls so far. Dea, already mentioned was a disaster. Erika, at GT now, the best service provider (although experienced disagreement with time in the room, her clock is a lot faster than mine. LOL.). Daisy was a good provider as well (more honest provider than Erika), didn't see her last visit. Other than them, services weren't good. I've been going to GT for years, and I tend to find good service providers. Not a regular.
I have been to this club approx 5 times earlier but on Sunday. The service was good to ok but obviously not like Babylon or Luder Lounge. It was subpar with one polish girl with tattoos, she started with are you staying an hour, and kept moaning about it. This totally killed my mood, I got hard and was having doggy style sex with her and the she complained that I was lasting so long, this from the girl who wanted me to stay an hour.
The 3rd girl, Romanian Yasmin was ok, but not great she said no tounge kissing which is rare, I am not talking about tounge twisting, she only did light french kissing, but she took it quite hard doggy style. I think Friday and Saturday night might bring out the worst, service on Sundays tends to be better.
My main point was the lineup, which you can't judge fairly on Sundays. It was late on Saturday and I was not impressed. Maybe the polish girl put a damper on my mood, this is the first time I have had sub par service from a polish girl in Germany. Next weekend it is Luder Lounge for me.
I went to more than 20 clubs, small like Great Palace, Bahama, Atlanta, Point, Finca, First, never been fucked by staff about happy hours. Turkish Arkan and Ali are super honest at Samya, same at Mondial or Aca. Oceans is the only one which don t respect what they write on their website or at the desk, just a club for Turkish in street clothes at night, not worth paying for entry when girls arrive at 8 pm. No regret, I returned to Valentina and what a Saturday night at PHG with ex Margo Samya and her challenger Georgia, dancing, shaking their ass. Samya can t compete for discotheque.
[QUOTE=Pistons;1937897]'Hallo, wer kommst du aus?
'Essen'.
Or 'Paris, aber ich wohne im Bochum'
Or
'Wohnst du hier im Deutchland?
'Ja, klar!'
'Warst du shon einmal hier?
'JA, klar!
Black armband received!
It is all about being streetsmart. If you don't play like this, you get screwed over in most places in this world. Places like Sharks, Oase etc are the exceptions really. Try asia, South America, Middle East, Africa etc.[/QUOTE]"Ich bin ein Taxi".
[QUOTE=Pistons;1937933]
In every club you must try at least 10 girls at the very minimum to get some sort of impression. Only at that point you also should have noticed some top performers. [/QUOTE]You've done with with all the clubs you are "reporting" and talking about?
HB.
[QUOTE=HessenBub;1938050]You've done with with all the clubs you are "reporting" and talking about?
HB.[/QUOTE]What do you think Pistons? I'd say you've done at least 10 girls at Artemis, Oase, Sharks, Oceans. And that's just when I've been with you. Roll eyes at HB.
[QUOTE=Hessen Bub;1938050]You've done with with all the clubs you are "reporting" and talking about?
HB.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Takedown;1938108]What do you think Pistons? I'd say you've done at least 10 girls at Artemis, Oase, Sharks, Oceans. And that's just when I've been with you. Roll eyes at HB.[/QUOTE]You can add Palace and GT to that list also. Maybe 80-100 at Artemis, 40 at Oase, 25 at Palace, 20 at Sharks, 15 at Oceans, 10 at GT. Aside from those 6 clubs I never talk about general levels of service. I feel like I should try more girls sometimes, but repeats gets the better of me mostly :/ At GT I feel weak, so haven't reported directly on average service levels. There is a difference in reporting on one girls service as opposed to a club in general.
Feel like I want to increase that number at Sharks too. So 2 visits ago at Sharks I did 5 new girls in one night. Just gotta get started. But the pitfall of making repeats creates too many prejudices. Most locals I talk to at Sharks also go by what other people says without trying the girls for themselves... at least I have a rule given to myself of allways trying out at least one new girl per visit at any club. Good for diversity : )
[QUOTE=Pistons;1937933]You were at Oceans for 7 hours and left before midnight? In that time you sampled so many girls that you know the service in general? Chances are that when leaving that early, you probably didnt even see or notice 20 girls that were working tonight. And a few top girls might also have been locked up in a room. Agree on the free meals. Better take the 30 option and you get a wider variety of a la carte daily dishes... I didnt like sharks LU this last winter, so each to their own... sharks LU is better now than last winter...
In every club you must try at least 10 girls at the very minimum to get some sort of impression. Only at that point you also should have noticed some top performers. Sharks also has an overweight of bad performers atm at least, but most returning visitors never go with these girls, so they also never talk about them... and new guys never knows this...
Like when I went to GT this summer for the first time. First 4 session's = bad. Just after that I started hitting some good ones... and if the girls see you at a club several times, they might consider you more of a regular, so service might rise...[/QUOTE]Sorry but I don t understand your comment to try at least 10 girls, knowing that the girls are often changing clubs etc. For me the quality of the service is not link to the club, the club management is here to provide the global atmosphere but I am not sure that they will advice the girls how to behave in the rooms.
Some clubs advice the girls. At other clubs the girls make their own club rules, starting in these groups we dont like normally. At other clubs again it is all a free for all.
Today I arrived at 13:10 and the woman at reception told me that prices have changed and it is not free before 15:00. I told her I know that is not true. I told her I want food and drink so I will pay the 50 Euro option, she told me the sign is old and it is no longer valid and the new price is 65. I told her I paid 50 yesterday when there was someone else at reception, so I paid only 50 in the end.
No one else has done this to me, only fat blond Vivienne at reception. I think she pockets the difference and I hope the owner / boss of Oceans is reading this. This is deliberate cheating. That and the fact that the lineup is not great means I will never return. Service today was good but not great. The club is okay, but it is not great. Not worth going back to, I have been there enough times.
There are better clubs for me in NWR, and yes I have tried at least 10 different girls there.
If the reception cheats you, just tell the manager. He is there most days and especially in the weekends. Ask around to find out who he is.
[QUOTE=DeltaIndigo;1938281]
No one else has done this to me, only fat blond Vivienne at reception. I think she pockets the difference and I hope the owner / boss of Oceans is reading this. This is deliberate cheating. [/QUOTE]She prolly does that to non-regulars. Never encountered any problems at any clubs. Only "cheating" I experienced was that I had to ask the fat lady at the reception (Sharks) about the voucher while on my last visit the pretty one gave me on her own saying "I think you know this".
I doubt that this is a club for regulars. The discount draws a lot of folks than without it.They are likely attempting this on those that are seemly tourist types. The club was initially setup for those types of clientele, and then business must have been slow, and thus discount entry specials and Frei entry started.
At LR, they never do discounts. 60 Euros entry.
[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1938319]I doubt that this is a club for regulars. The discount draws a lot of folks than without it.They are likely attempting this on those that are seemly tourist types. The club was initially setup for those types of clientele, and then business must have been slow, and thus discount entry specials and Frei entry started.
At LR, they never do discounts. 60 Euros entry.[/QUOTE]Ok but its ridiculous to try to cheat on those informed "tourists" like Sir Sirioja as he will return many times even paying if he finds angels there, LOL.
Seems like GT and LR are much better choices.
They're probably thinking that tourists are less knowledgeable when it comes to their pricing setup and believe what they say.
I have met a tourist that told me he paid 65 without knowledge of the pricing. He didn'the even know he can have sex with the girls for a fee and didn't know the rate. Some people are not informed and also the taxi commission is high, and they are probably trying to pull in the less informed. The foreigners I talked to there didn't know about the alternative clubs in the area.
I don't feel any urge to visit Oceans. Why should I go? Same for Magnum. Tried it twice. Had a few good sessions there. Still the club isn't that great. No reason to return.
HB.
Why we go to more than one club? Diversity in girls? It isn't a hard question:). Some girls look like Artemis girls. Others look like Oase girls. Some girls look like GT girls. Some Oceans girls.
Growing too much into one club is not good. I fell into that trap with Artemis, and becomming a furniture started boring me too much. I think others here on the forum must feel the same. Maybe not all the sharks regulars cares too much and are happy with status quo. As can regulars at all clubs be. Maybe Oceans is not for everyone. Each to their own I guess. I will still return to see Eleny, Andra, Malina, Lorena, Alina, Verina and the rest of the 8+ and 9's there. And hoping girls like Carly, Andrea and Sierra stays and don't just stay on short visits. But at least the club also attracts top quality from all clubs around europe. Can't say that about every club around. Maybe Oceans just have good talent scouts atm... it is after all also considerred the most luxurious fkk in germany (maybe because of the 20 000 e champaigne bottle on the menu). So a far cry from ISIS run Magnum where they don't even sell Red Bull cans for 2 e... lol
[QUOTE=Exodus8;1938322]Ok but its ridiculous to try to cheat on those informed "tourists" like Sir Sirioja as he will return many times even paying if he finds angels there, LOL.
Seems like GT and LR are much better choices.[/QUOTE]Never been to GT so I cannot comment but LR is a better club if you are a big smoker or someone who does not mind being in a room filled with smoke which is being inhaled by every breath whether you are a smoker or not. It's a shame. I quite like the free beer and the outside is ok. Poor wellness facilities at LR. Not a patch on Oceans. As a result I now rarely visit the LR thread. No point if I'm never going back. I don't understand why guys who don't want to visit a club visit its thread if they really are not interesting in returning to it. I fully understand why Delta Indigo reported on his experience and that has caused him not to return, but if you know for a fact you'll never go back, why visit the thread? To my that's the same as my looking at a thread for say Italy when I have no intention of going there! Seems crazy to me but people obviously have a lot of time on their hands. Good for them!
I don't know why Oceans gets a hard time. I've been on several occasions now and I've enjoyed every visit. Maybe I just got lucky. The club is large, clean, the saunas are first class, the massage facilities are good, the rooms are mainly really good sizes, very spacious (unlike the tiny hot pods at Oase which are awful), are well ventilated (unlike some of the rooms at Sharks which are so hot. Ditto Oase) and I've found the food perfectly acceptable. Nowhere near the Sakura / Paradise level, or even Sharks on a good day, but still well ahead of Artemis, Oase and the crowded facilities at Samya and LR. It's also easy to get to either by near drop off in cab, or as some have reported. Safely walking from Hotel Van der Valk. Whilst the LU is not as extensive as Sharks I agree with what Syzygies has said in the past. If you see 5 girls in a club you really want to session with then the LU can be considered good. Applying that test alone, Oceans has had a good LU each time I've been there. To each their own of course, but for me, this club is heads and shoulders above smokey LR and definitely better than Palace / Mainhattan / Samya. After Artemis and Sakura its my favorite club. Just goes to show we all like different things. Which of course is a good thing as we'd all be fighting over fucking only one girl!
GT is a better club if you like six pack on girls but care nothing about their face. Or if you like an old pensioners camping resort as opposed to a night club with disco balls, light columns, girls dancing on stage, on the bar or like strange disco guy moving around thinking he is a robot shooting lazers at everyone.
[QUOTE=Pistons;1938383]GT is a better club if you like six pack on girls but care nothing about their face. Or if you like an old pensioners camping resort as opposed to a night club with disco balls, light columns, girls dancing on stage, on the bar or like strange disco guy moving around thinking he is a robot shooting lazers at everyone.[/QUOTE]In which case, on all fronts, I'll pass! I like six packs on girls, but not at the expense of great looks, tits and bums. I'm not much impressed by Oceans disco balls but the girls on stage are always good entertainment. As for old pensioners camping resorts. I hope that's a reference to the punters at GT and not the girls! Sounds like it could be either or both! Either way, I won't be making the trek there any time soon on your assessment! Is Lucy (ex Aca) still at Oceans? She is a great pole dancer (in more ways than one) and I find her very sexy. I'm in Frankfurt for 3 nights at the end of the month but am seriously thinking of getting a train to Dusseldorf to put Oceans into the mix again.
[QUOTE=PayForIt;1938384]In which case, on all fronts, I'll pass! I like six packs on girls, but not at the expense of great looks, tits and bums. I'm not much impressed by Oceans disco balls but the girls on stage are always good entertainment. As for old pensioners camping resorts. I hope that's a reference to the punters at GT and not the girls! Sounds like it could be either or both! Either way, I won't be making the trek there any time soon on your assessment! Is Lucy (ex Aca) still at Oceans? She is a great pole dancer (in more ways than one) and I find her very sexy. I'm in Frankfurt for 3 nights at the end of the month but am seriously thinking of getting a train to Dusseldorf to put Oceans into the mix again.[/QUOTE]I've found GT girls to be too fit on the expense of cuteness yes. Old pensioners camping resort was a reference to the lounge, outdoor area, cabins, eating area, shower area, locker room. You name it. Girls are not pensioners. Age range was 19-33. Girls lie about their age though. This hamburg girl at gt that I know from artemis who is about 33 made a few locals swear on her just being 26. Lots of older clientelle though. Think I saw a 90 year old guy with a walking stick there as well. Don't know Lucy. Is she a 'cultural dancer' at Oceans? The 'cultural dancer' star for me is Eleny (ex Vive). I doubt she is a downgrade from this Lucy though. Actually I havent seen poledancing at Oceans for 4-5 months. Lately I've only seen cultural dancing at the 2 poles (belly/hip dancing with some costumes), and some all out sexy dancing where they simulate sex and lots of twerking. Especially Malina is a great twerker... 2-3 girls per stage plus one or two in the middle. And some 4+ girls on the bar sometimes.
[QUOTE=HessenBub;1938351]I don't feel any urge to visit Oceans. Why should I go?
HB.[/QUOTE]Because if you are not an obvious tourist (or a weird frenchman) you get in for free any time (with coupons not hard to find), at least until end of September, just have to spend min 15 euros on reasonably priced drinks.
Large facilities, clean, top sauna, food is ok (extra), rooms are ok (some more than ok), stage shows are ok, LU is very hit & miss for optics and choice but on weekends after 8 pm high chance of being zufrieden.
Percentage of non romies unpredictable but on downtrend. Unfortunately.
Service is a bit tricky, like magnum or DV, so either you have low requirements (as do many writers here) or you have to work harder to get your dreamed lalala GFE.
So no reason ro skip right now if in Duss. In October we will see.
[QUOTE=Dutedrac;1938781]food is ok (extra), LU is very hit & miss for optics and choice
Service is a bit tricky,[/QUOTE]Plenty of reasons not to go. Thanks.
HB
PS: Define "dreamed lalala GFE. "
[QUOTE=Exodus8;1938322]Ok but its ridiculous to try to cheat on those informed "tourists" like Sir Sirioja as he will return many times even paying if he finds angels there, LOL.
Seems like GT and LR are much better choices.[/QUOTE]Free entry is written everywhere, girl on desk called a guy when I answered I won't pay 65 , but the guy confirmed it is not for foreigners who can't come often. When I find a girl, locals can't compete with me for number of visits, but ex Valentina at PHG, Madeleine at GT, Katea at Samya, Kate and Isabella at Globe, are enough for me at the moment, I don't want to give my money to Oceans staff.
[QUOTE=Dutedrac;1938781]food is ok (extra), LU is very hit & miss
Service is a bit tricky, [/QUOTE]
"Plenty of reasons not to go. Thanks. HB"
I don't think they aren't reasons not to go. They could easily apply to nearly all FKKs! Indeed they apply very much to Oase, Sharks, Mainhattan and Palace. Dutedrac listed some other very positive reasons to attend which I don't think should be ignored. Service can be tricky in any club. The LU is not as strong, on average as say bigger clubs like Sharks or Artemis but I've had plenty of disappointing trips to Sharks and whilst the LU at Artemis nearly always has at least 5-10 really attractive girls, it does have times when it is not so good.
Overall Oceans is a nice club with great facilities, good location, and more often than not, some very attractive girls to pick from.
[QUOTE=Pistons;1938396] Don't know Lucy. Is she a 'cultural dancer' at Oceans? The 'cultural dancer' star for me is Eleny (ex Vive). I doubt she is a downgrade from this Lucy though. [/QUOTE]Lucy is not a cultural dancer. She was one of the best and most athletic pole dancers I've ever seen. Long dark hair, tall, good body, large naturals but I'd say nearer 30 than 20 age wise. Having posted a positive report on her earlier this year several experienced forum members (I seem to recall PL) said she was ex-Aca. One of those girls who you know can be really sexy and is experienced. I had 2 hours+ with her so her service was excellent though others mentioned short sessions with her are not great. Would be a shame if she'd left. Was a real attraction for me!
Ok, I think I recall reading that. She is probably one of the tall pretty black haired girls (I havent talked to) sitting around the area close to the entrance then. If it is the girl I am thinking of, she was there Sunday last week at least. But I could be wrong. There were no pole dancing shows that night though. Just some random dancing on stage on the get go.
And regarding HB/PL's negativity regarding Oceans, I read that as pure entertainment. In the end people will find out which clubs are good, and which are dull... pluss we'll have someone to respond to also. Not everyone likes they same either too ofcourse...
Sure the entrance policy is not perfect. But for me it feels like a real bargain. Would I have paid more if I had to? Most deffinately. The club is new and they need to do a few upgrades to give people more to do while not fucking. But it is just a matter of time. And only places like Sharks/Oase and maybe Paradise/Artemis/YY has more to offer at the moment anyway. When talking facility...
As for partyclub atmosphere on a weekend, Oceans is by far the best fkk I have visited... check out some of the youtube videos and you get an idea...
[QUOTE=PayForIt;1938379] I've found the food perfectly acceptable. Nowhere near the Sakura / Paradise level, or even Sharks on a good day, but still well ahead of Artemis, Oase and the crowded facilities at Samya and LR. [/QUOTE]Don't forget that there are good and bad days at the Oceans kitchen too. The daily specials can be really good. As for food I would give it a draw with Sharks. Sharks gets extra points for the watermelons and fruit. But I have to subtract the same points from Sharks due to the awful grilled meat and terrible sausages too. Breakfast at Sharks is not really good unless they have asian food. At Oceans the breakfast/lunch buffet was fairly good... not much choice, but it was a notch above Oase/Artemis dinner(!) while still free., and still just lunch. However, it was below GT afternoon meal (which is the best meal at GT and better than their dinner imo) The a la carte options however is what you comapre with at Oceans... so yes, only really below the Stuttgart clubs...
[QUOTE=Sirioja;1937742]This club is just a shame with a not honest staff. Arrived at 1 pm, first on the parking with the helicopter, was asked if first time? Honest answer: NO, if I live in Germany? Honest answer: NO. It s written frei entritt 13-15 h, but was asked 65 , because foreigner, so I left, I don t give money to people who are not honest and their girls can keep on crying for business. Turkish guys don t give good business to girls, good girls better go in better clubs. Erika and Valentina didn't stay at Oceans.
Shame for Oceans staff.[/QUOTE]I forgot to mention, but last time, they asked me 80 on a Messe Saturday night, of course I also left. I may have a rich and stupid guy face, with my Porsche Sportback for bike and ski. If they are able to read, they have to know I m proud to be french, I don't need to lie like Romanian girls, and they will never fuck me for money, not more than what I eat or drink. They are just Turkish level, which are their clients at night, they will never have 200 girls as they bullshit when opening. Only about 30 rooms which are too dark to enjoy to contemplate beauties.
My advice: if you are not German, nor Turkish, don't lose your time with Oceans desk, same than at GT if you are dark skin.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;1938941]
My advice: if you are not German, nor Turkish, don't lose your time with Oceans desk, same than at GT if you are dark skin.[/QUOTE]I'm German but I have no intention going to Oceans. A club who cheat clients already systematically with entrance fee (+ this brazen taxi fee) is a clear NoGo for me.
[QUOTE=Craiova;1939130]I'm German but I have no intention going to Oceans. A club who cheat clients already systematically with entrance fee (+ this brazen taxi fee) is a clear NoGo for me.[/QUOTE]+1. Plus what I heard from girls who worked there, plus what I heard from locals visiting. Not keeping anybody from going. See for yourself. Just saying I won't go. Too many other good options around in Germany or NRW. I wouldn't recommend going to Palace either, at least not for newbies or people expecting great service for 50€ if you don't know the girl or are a regular.
HB.
HB: So what did the girls say about Oceans?
Sirioja: all clubs lie about girls numbers. Rooms are not dark. They are like at most other clubs amd resembles sharks rooms in average. And entry rate policy works for me. I am neighter german, although the receptionist might think so.
[QUOTE=Pistons;1939141]all clubs lie about girls numbers.[/QUOTE]Sorry that isn't true. Some clubs haven't any ads with girls number. On entrance if I ask I usually always get right number after looking at daily attendance list. At my regular clubs I sometimes hear even on reception before paying entrance fee "Sorry but today we have only xx girls here. ".
So there are huge differences how clubs treat their guests.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;1938941]I forgot to mention, but last time, they asked me 80 on a Messe Saturday night, of course I also left. I may have a rich and stupid guy face, with my Porsche Sportback for bike and ski.[/QUOTE]Try coming with a Dacia (or with my old Citroen), maybe they'll give you money for entrance!
[QUOTE=Craiova;1939145]Sorry that isn't true. Some clubs haven't any ads with girls number. On entrance if I ask I usually always get right number after looking at daily attendance list. At my regular clubs I sometimes hear even on reception before paying entrance fee "Sorry but today we have only xx girls here. ".[/QUOTE]And that is why you don't like Oceans. Because they made you honestly think they have 200 girls each night? This is becomming a bit hilarious.
Just looking at the ads here on ISG, every single one lie about the number of girls. So by that logic, you should also stop going on ISG forum?
[QUOTE=Pistons;1939141]Sirioja: all clubs lie about girls numbers. Rooms are not dark. They are like at most other clubs amd resembles sharks rooms in average. And entry rate policy works for me. I am neighter german, although the receptionist might think so.[/QUOTE]You know me, why do you want I lie and say I live in Dusseldorf? On Friday, I paid entry at GT and PHG, so 120, so problem is not money, but Oceans are just liars about entry rates, about number of girls, so I don't want to give my money to them, it's same than if I gave money to pimp after room with a pimped girl.
Had 4 rooms at Oceans on my previous visits, upstairs and close to the lounge, all were too dark at night for me, I like to see beauty and to check what I lick, about hygiene.
But I respect you like this club, enjoy. I planned to go to speak to Anda, but she will have Turkish fucking.
[QUOTE=Craiova;1939130]I'm German but I have no intention going to Oceans. A club who cheat clients already systematically with entrance fee (+ this brazen taxi fee) is a clear NoGo for me.[/QUOTE]I agree but feel I need to explore this club in order to complete my training as a jedi. Won't hestitate to leave if not frei entritt before 2 pm though.
[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;1939153]Try coming with a Dacia (or with my old Citroen), maybe they'll give you money for entrance![/QUOTE]I hope you know Sportback is not Porsche, my car was under helicopter wings and the only one on parking at 1 pm, so they could see where I come from, also not speaking German, but if they want to fuck foreigners, they will not fuck me, I never pay to be fucked.
I often write about what I think of Turkish guys behavior with girls, but on the other hand, when I started to visit Samya in 2013 , often I didn't find any girl, a few times theke called Ali who gave me a free entry, saying to me: sorry you didn't enjoy, each time he see me, he comes to me, so on 31 July, I said to theke I wanted to see him, she called him, I said to him I had more than 4 hours with Katea, I was afraid he would kiss me. He asked to me if I was register, they remembered I was there on the day before, they registered 3 entries, not 2.
Samya Turkish staff is super honest and friendly, Oceans are liars. I will return to Katea and Samya.
[QUOTE=Exodus8;1939193]I agree but feel I need to explore this club in order to complete my training as a jedi. Won't hestitate to leave if not frei entritt before 2 pm though.[/QUOTE]It s written free entry until 3 pm. For who?
[QUOTE=Sirioja;1939207]It s written free entry until 3 pm. For who?[/QUOTE]Website saying frei entritt from 12 am to 2 pm. Maybe they should add "not for tourists" LOL.
Payforit: thanks for tip regarding checking out Sakura too. I will make sure I check it out before I check out PL, Craiova and HB's club choices. LOL.
[QUOTE=Pistons;1939177]And that is why you don't like Oceans. Because they made you honestly think they have 200 girls each night? This is becomming a bit hilarious.
Just looking at the ads here on ISG, every single one lie about the number of girls. So by that logic, you should also stop going on ISG forum?[/QUOTE]At least you understand your "logic".
[QUOTE=Exodus8;1939233]Website saying frei entritt from 12 am to 2 pm. Maybe they should add "not for tourists" LOL.[/QUOTE]On desk, written until 3 pm, nothing written about foreigners to try to fuck.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;1939191]all were too dark at night for me, I like to see beauty and to check what I lick, about hygiene.[/QUOTE]I have the same principles about food. I want to eat my meals where I can see it not under a darkened room or by candle light.
I guess I am also quite the same fickleness over eating pussy as well that I like to be able to see the pussy that I am licking.
[QUOTE=Craiova;1939250]At least you understand your "logic".[/QUOTE]Since my profession is in media, I know at least publishing and marketing laws and regulations. By publishing these ads on their domain, ISG is technically and lawfully the responsible part regarding their validity.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;1939191].Had 4 rooms at Oceans on my previous visits, upstairs and close to the lounge, all were too dark at night for me, I like to see beauty and to check what I lick, about hygiene.
But I respect you like this club, enjoy. I planned to go to speak to Anda, but she will have Turkish fucking.[/QUOTE]Agree the upstairs rooms are not as good as the downstairs rooms. They are also much newer and more recently added. Sounded like they were just tossed in because of the increased popularity on the club not this year. Perhaps they fix them soon. Or add more rooms. But the lightswitches works there as well. At least in the 4-5 different upstairs rooms I tried out.
Andra seems to be very popular with the non turks though. Well, with everyone I guess. So hard to say, but I think she might be the top earner at Oceans.
Yes it does suck with the door policy, and I see that point. But when these things happen (as I am used to from asia so many times), there are ways around them...
But the manager is around most weekend days as I already mentionned. Maybe if enough people voice their concerns about this, they will start to see reason on it.
What I mainly like about the club is the ambience and the girls. Rest is less important... for me at least...
- The signs and posters regarding the free lunch at the club has changed to 13.00-15.00. Can't recall if I saw the same change regarding the free entry hours. Maybe it is 13.00-15.00 also. Maybe it is reduced to just 1 hour... anyone paid attention to that?
[QUOTE=Pistons;1939270]Agree the upstairs rooms are not as good as the downstairs rooms. They are also much newer and more recently added. Sounded like they were just tossed in because of the increased popularity on the club not this year. Perhaps they fix them soon. Or add more rooms. But the lightswitches works there as well. At least in the 4-5 different upstairs rooms I tried out.
Andra seems to be very popular with the non turks though. Well, with everyone I guess. So hard to say, but I think she might be the top earner at Oceans.
Yes it does suck with the door policy, and I see that point. But when these things happen (as I am used to from asia so many times), there are ways around them...[/QUOTE]Beds are OK for me, but not enough light to contemplate beauty, skin, pussy, nails.
I meant small, pretty face Anda. Ro? Maybe also Sierra again?
My other way was to return to Valentina at PHG and no regret, a real model and 60 for entry with free foods and drinks all day and night, with real party at night.
Small pretty faced blonde Andra yes (same as the one you call Anda). Sierra seems to be gone however. Haven't seen her since May. Maybe she returns. Maybe not. Instinct tells me she didnt like this job no matter which club though... and she was just 19 I think. But they seem to have a good network to attain great replacements at the moment.
After being 5 times in Oceans and always hoping it would be better than the last time, I have to say: Never again. Five times I have tried the club and with the 5 girls it was always a catastrophe. The service of the girls was as bad as I never experienced.
I will only go to Living Room in Kaarst, because the service of girls is mostly very good. Also the food is free and is good.
The last time I was in Oceans with a drunken man, and accompanied him, he was robbed. He lost his cellphone and his money. Must have happened in the locker room. When we wanted to leave, he had to pay 30 Euros the girl at the reception. He did not have any more money and a foreigner in the locker room (who is working there) payed the money to the girl. Why should he do that, when he didn't rob him the money before? So sorry the club has lost his reputation for me. Never again.
[QUOTE=Pistons;1939349]Small pretty faced blonde Andra yes (same as the one you call Anda). Sierra seems to be gone however. Haven't seen her since May. Maybe she returns. Maybe not. Instinct tells me she didnt like this job no matter which club though... and she was just 19 I think. But they seem to have a good network to attain great replacements at the moment.[/QUOTE]Fake blond Sierra was a real model, with pretty face, but I confirm difficult job for her, but also difficult for Megan at Sharks, even Megan is much higher than Sierra for sex for me. Dark upstairs room for Sierra, light is so low.
Bad luck for Anda / Andra, I wanted to ask her again about DFK? And maybe I also missed some top models, but Valentina is a real sweet, GFE, model, and I will never accept staff behavior, they should write foreigners are not welcome. When I m not welcome, I don't stay. Oceans don't worth 65 at 1 pm, without free foods and no girls in the afternoon.
[QUOTE=Craiova;1939130]I'm German but I have no intention going to Oceans. A club who cheat clients already systematically with entrance fee (+ this brazen taxi fee) is a clear NoGo for me.[/QUOTE]Exactly! This place seems like the perfect (American) tourist trap: idiots who believe that tipping and getting ripped off with "choices" (paying for the 'privilege' of arriving by taxi versus arriving by other means) is a way of life.
I dunno who was the braniac that decided a club in the region with so many alternatives around to be a good idea. The consequences are apparent.
Originally they were probably targetting big-shot tourists being located neat Messe and airport, but the market for high volume are Turkish. In order to pull in on high volume to bring in revenue, they offer the low entry options, and results are high volume of Turkish.
That shows that the area wasn't prime for opening up another club for targetting tourists.
Yes, they need to refine their targetting clientelle a bit. Right now they are falling between two chairs.
Siri: food before 15.00 and after 03.00 at night is free. And as I mentionned before, LU is much improved overall. So if you like Andra and Sierra, I think you would love Andrea who looks like a mix between the two (if she didn't move on after just a week) for example. Her service was as good as anywhere...
PL: The idea was probably to make a larger club than the smaller fkk's that nrw generally has lots of. And make it stand out to draw all the top girls. Thats why they have that champaigne, and focussed on upscale clubbing ambience...
They probably just need to change that entrance fee policy though. And then word of mouth can bring in tons of airport travellers. Just checked the dusseldorf passenger volume figure and it is at over 22m a year. Quite solid. The recent sharks clientelle volume during automechania showed how much word of mouth can affect a club. And lots of groups probably have one guy reading these internet forums too.
Instead of having this double pricing policy, introducing a bonus card system or something along the lines of the 20 entry card at Sharks is probably a better way... Or pay for 10 and get 14 entries. That would make the entry prices with card go down to Oase/Sharks levels at 46.43e. And without a card it would be 65e (So in effect it would be a hidden double pricing system instead of the non hidden system they are using atm). Then remove the free alcohol before 7, reduce the taxi commission to 10 or even 15e per driver and bundle it into the price so all the clientelle shares the bill for the few taxi customers (because westerners are so stupid they then think it is for free)... not because that is then a better policy, but because of understanding the market better.
[QUOTE=Pistons;1939584]And then word of mouth can bring in tons of airport travellers. Just checked the dusseldorf passenger volume figure and it is at over 22m a year. Quite solid. [/QUOTE]A completely meaningless statistic if you ask me.
DUS has a lot of locally / Ruhrgebiet / Holland / Belgium based businesspeople (leaving in the morning, arriving back again late in the evening), visiting businesspeople who rent cars because their final destination could be somewhere in the Ruhrgebiet, Holland or Belgium and not necessarily Duesseldorf itself, many many German / Dutch / Belgian tourists driving to DUS going on vacation with the entire family.
It's not a big international gateway like FRA or AMS, where people with a 4-6 hour layover in between connecting flights could in theory quickly jump into a taxi to visit a nearby FKK. Most local users of DUS have cars and perhaps many foreign DUS passengers rent cars, so they have other options like YY, GT, LR or even Sharks or Oase.
As PL (and myself many many months ago) already suggested: perhaps the market is pretty much saturated? Perhaps there is a limit to the number of good looking Romanians girls you can persuade to work in this business? Perhaps most working girls already in Germany didn't feel like leaving their old trusted club where they know the owners and have an established group of regular customers? Perhaps there is also a limit to the number of customers, especially customers that want to be confronted with a confusing scheme of entry fees and add on charges?
One more thing. Sex and the sex business still has a certain taboo surrounding it, even in liberal Europe. Therefore trust, discretion and privacy are quite important to a lot of people visiting an FKK. Everybody has heard of rip-off stories of exorbitant 'charges,' bar-fees and prices for "lady drinks" in brothels or strip clubs worldwide, or even regular hotels running scams with the mini bar or pay-per-view (porn) movies, knowing that most people want to avoid embarrassing arguments with bouncers and receptionists when leaving.
So if a club already starts off with a confusing array of prices, charges and fees in this kind of business, then this perhaps does not really establish a basis of trust between business and customer from the start?
If Andrea is as pretty as Sierra and Anda, please ask her for me where she wants to move, I will go to her.
You say no free foods between 3 pm and 3 am, no girls until 7/8 pm, boring club? Not honest staff. Or maybe, they prefer to welcome Turkish in street clothes. Not sure, girls prefer them than me for client, they spend their money drinking, I spend my money enjoying girls.
22 m pax is still better than 2. 2 m pax.
And Oceans has a solid lineup. Perhaps reducing the lineups of the other clubs in the area. Lots of locals there that I have talked to say places like Magnum, VV etc are hurting. Like at World. But the network of the management is probably the key. And not all these other things in regards to the lineup...
[QUOTE=Sirioja;1939700]If Andrea is as pretty as Sierra and Anda, please ask her for me where she wants to move, I will go to her.
You say no free foods between 3 pm and 3 am, no girls until 7/8 pm, boring club? Not honest staff. Or maybe, they prefer to welcome Turkish in street clothes. Not sure, girls prefer them than me for client, they spend their money drinking, I spend my money enjoying girls.[/QUOTE]- I will ask if she is there in a few weeks. But I think I asked a few weeks ago too and she didn't know if she would stay.
- More girls now before 7 pm with opening at 13 than when opening was at 12.
- Agree policy on entrance need to change. Maybe it will.
[QUOTE=Pistons;1939860]- I will ask if she is there in a few weeks. But I think I asked a few weeks ago too and she didn't know if she would stay.
- More girls now before 7 pm with opening at 13 than when opening was at 12.
- Agree policy on entrance need to change. Maybe it will.[/QUOTE]Next time you go, on week end, let me know, I will make you the show playing the french, parking the car in front of the desk, saying them I m proud to be french, and you will see how they respect what they write everywhere, and even on desk, free until 3 pm, for entry rate, as long they don't respect, I can't trust them about air I breathe there, what I eat or drink there. I prefer to give my money to girls who works to give me pleasure than to Turkish boss, even I'm happy to give 50 to Ali, but this big guy is just a super honest and friendly Turkish guy, at least with me, he is Samya boss, he does everything I ask him, playing Formula 1, asking if everything is OK, if I m happy with my girls, of course if I had problem with a girl, like Katea asking me 50 more for 15 mn more than 4 hours, I would never say to him, he might ask her to give me back 50, but it was my mistake, I should have left the room at 4 hours, not speaking until 4 hours 15 mn, sometimes I m a bit naive, but it was only 350 for more than 4 amazing hours, but she has lost more often rooms with me.
With limited time, it's a waste of time for me. I make a schedule of clubs to visit in the area, and Oceans does not work out or even high on my list based on my experiences there (which generally hasn't been all that good). LR the service is the draw and I get 25 Euros off going from GT which the LU gets going during the day. Aca, it's 40 Euros entry, and Oceans is packed on weekend night. 40 Euros per session. 30 Euros happy HR (and perhaps they are doing 20 Euros still). Mondial is 30 Euros entry and 30 Euros for quick session if it bad, 30 Euros loss. I'm not going there early with no guarantee that I'the get free entry, and waste my time until night to see what girls will be around. Based on my experience, service is a crapshoot. And, I certainly will not be stopping by at night on weekends (especially as late as 11 pm) on weekends ever again. Not a large enough window until sausage-fest takes places. It's not a fun club, don't like the vibe. Probably the most dim club I've been at night, don't really care for that. Facilities isn't all that big of a deal for me. Don't care if the place is flashy whatever, girls are what matters.
We can speak about optiks all we want, and you can find good optiks at various clubs. That's not the sole criteria to make a club worth visiting. I won't say LU is amazing to go out of my way. It's not particularly that good on the avg. It's the service of the girls that one finds most attractive that really matters most.
Service of the girls is a bit random at all clubs. I have found stellar girls at most clubs. If not all clubs I have been to. Finding these top girls can take some time though. And some clubs might have more of them than others (sharks has a good ratio of 9 performers I agree. Or I have just been lucky. Palace has a much lower ratio. Other clubs fall in between at about the same place. My GT ratio is actually my 2nd lowest. Actually below Artemis...even if I got the romanian mafia group against me there. who would have guessed?
With the repeats I have made at Oceans it has struck me each time that service has improved. And a few girls can be moody as they are young and are tired sometimes. More so at Oceans than at other clubs... Alina was very tired the first time I went with her. Performance just barely a 6. Or even a 5. I did her again as she did have somewhat of a good reason to be tired. And 2nd time it was a weak 8 and her first session of the day. Still not stellar. But +2 just due to feeling well and having energy is alot. I guess some of these young party girls at oceans arent the best at conserving energy for a marathon just yet. Even if one of them told me it took 4 hours of fucking to get an orgasm. At least I love the sense of humor that girl has though... LOL :)
My next Oceans visit will be on a Thursday and I'm arriving late. Does that work for you Siri? The thing is that the receptionists probably remember me now though. Since I allways bother them a million times with charging my phone. So not sure that stunt would work properly, LOL.
Lineup seems stable now. All the same top girls as a month ago. Just Dea and Andrea (as expected) missing. Dea at LR I guess like PL wrote. New girls are Celina (from sharks, mystic) and Larissa (exotic black haired petite romanian). So overall unchanged for me. Also some girls I know alot of other guys would like that are not my type.
Most girls think its a good club andthe best in nrw. If they change club other clubs in the area doesn't seem like is any option for them. At least the 5 girls I talked to about other club changes. If they move it will probably be to another country. Mentionned sharks too to a few, but they were unsure and not all things they hear about sharks are as good. Like the rumored higher service levels they feel they must live up to then (questionable but perhaps true in average.). And the older age of clients there. True to some degree though lots of the new tourists at sharks at least from asia seems quite young these days also. And sharks does have more clients throughout the week and not just the weekend like here. So it is a give or take for them I guess. But then again optically alot of these Oceans girls would do well at sharks. Top 10 here is like top 5 at sharks. And at sharks many of the top girls at least for me leaves early.
When moving between Sharks and Oceans this trip the only thing I feel is missing at Oceans are the jacuuzis they have at sharks. And the steamroom in sharks is a bit better than at oceans.
Tried out some new girls here too even thougg I actually feel sad I gotta opt away from my favourites like Andra, Eleny, Alina and Lorena when I do that, haha...
Oceans feels like a fashion club as opposed to the all naked hessen clubs also. So it is a nice change of pace. For the dessouse lovers, this place is a must... but I have to say Andra had even more fashionable clothes on when she was about to leave the other day. That is one girl that would leave your jaws hanging if you saw her on the street, lol
50 girls on thursday. 80-85 on saturday tonight...
Edit: Lucy just did a pole dancing show also. So now I know who she is. Dont think Ive seen her here before though...
[QUOTE=Pistons;1947030]
Edit: Lucy just did a pole dancing show also. So now I know who she is. Dont think Ive seen her here before though...[/QUOTE]Oh she has definitely been there before Pistons. And did that amazing show after which I took her to the room for 2 hours. Great service and attitude. She is a bit older than a lot of the girls but all woman and very sexy. I'll be back now I know she is still there!
[QUOTE=Pistons;1947030]Lineup seems stable now. All the same top girls as a month ago. Just Dea and Andrea (as expected) missing. Dea at LR I guess like PL wrote. New girls are Celina (from sharks, mystic) and Larissa (exotic black haired petite romanian). So overall unchanged for me. Also some girls I know alot of other guys would like that are not my type.
Most girls think its a good club andthe best in nrw. If they change club other clubs in the area doesn't seem like is any option for them. At least the 5 girls I talked to about other club changes. If they move it will probably be to another country. Mentionned sharks too to a few, but they were unsure and not all things they hear about sharks are as good. Like the rumored higher service levels they feel they must live up to then (questionable but perhaps true in average.). And the older age of clients there. True to some degree though lots of the new tourists at sharks at least from asia seems quite young these days also. And sharks does have more clients throughout the week and not just the weekend like here. So it is a give or take for them I guess. But then again optically alot of these Oceans girls would do well at sharks. Top 10 here is like top 5 at sharks. And at sharks many of the top girls at least for me leaves early...[/QUOTE]I agree with your report, and definitively prefer Ocean to Shark, also may be to be mentioned there is a be&be hotel at walking distance from the club so good and cheap overnight possibility.
Oh yes, Oceans lineup is now way ahead of sharks. Sharks has Mandy for me some nights to keep me non-bored when I go there with Takedown though. Was at sharks tonight again since it was takedowns birthday and he has something going here. But with girls I know I would have had more fun at oceans. Last night at Oceans I had 4 out 5 great sessions. At sharks tonight only 1 out of 3 was good. One was actually terrible too. But Mandy and Merci was not around and I opted away from girls like Erica and Yvette who could probably have been better. There is just more x factors among the Oceans lineup. Sharks lineup is very bland in average now. I thought about leaving Sharks to go Oase or even drive the 2h to Oceans when I saw the bad LU at sharks. But was just too tired.
So what are the pro's and con's of visiting Oceans vs Sharks and Oase? Looking at the Oceans website I see free beer from 1 until 7, I'm assuming its to keep guys from leaving?
Food situation looks to be a free breakfast buffet until 2 pm and then they bring out the breakfast buffet again at 3 am until close and one dinner is free with paid cover. Is this correct or did I read it wrong?
The website is not updated on the time. Breakfast is 13.00-15.00. Same goes for the free entry (where you must spend minumum 15 e on food / drinks). This 1 hour shift has increased the afternoon lineup a bit too.
The free alcohol before 19.00 is if you go for the 65 e entry where 1 a la carte meal is also included.
Negative might be the lack of a pool or a jacuuzi at the moment (untill next summer at least). And the slightly loud music played on weekends by a slightly lame 'dj' who feels turning the volume up and down makes him an artist while in reality he is a below average jukeboxer with a heavy lean towards club remixes of techno tracks. Fun for a day or two perhaps, but must be tiering in the long run for the girls and perhaps why some are tired on the sundays etc. The music itself would gain from a bit lower volume on some days when the certain jukeboxer is at the helm. And not as bad when a few of the girls go to choose the songs... The same problem Oase, Magnum and Artemis has. Although at Artemis the music is a bit more towards Europop and at Oase they play more Manele... At Magnum it is just worst. So no comment.
Positive is the lineup with some very good looking and fun girls with good personality. The nice interior and ambience etc etc. The a la carte food is also good...
Sharks has 3 jacuuzis, a great steamroom (better than the hot oceans steamroom) and a sauna (oceans sauna is about equal). So it wins in relaxation. The watermelons at Sharks are also a big favourite with everyone. And in the summer the garden is good. But the lineup is a bit weak. Girls are in average slightly older and more experienced, and attendance is good even on weekdays. Especially wednesday. While Oceans is just for weekends with a polar oposite on fri/sat and mon/tue. Personally I find the dayshift at sharks better than the nightshift. While Oceans is a heavy nightclub open till 07.00 in the weekends.
Oase is a bit of a mix between the two. Lineup is in general somewhere between. It is more of a nightclub than sharks, but not as much as Oceans. In the summer you can do sports in the garden too. Like football, ping pong, basketball, bolleyball etc. Some like the outside pool at oase. Not for me. Rooms are smaller at Oase (Oceans and Sharks rooms are almost identical), and there are lots of mirrors in the Oase rooms. Food at Oase is not too good, but the pasta has improved lately... Oase has the best quiet room for sleeping. Sharks has nothing that are off limit to the girls while Oceans has a room called salt temple (see website) that is just ok...
Edit: the free food at nighttime at Oceans is just some bread... not worth mentioning. The lunch however can be decent... pasta, salads and some meat...
Cool shots outside the Oceans Helicopter.
[QUOTE=Pistons;1947747]The website is not updated on the time. Breakfast is 13.00-15.00. Same goes for the free entry (where you must spend minumum 15 e on food / drinks). This 1 hour shift has increased the afternoon lineup a bit too.
.[/QUOTE]Lets say you arrive for the free entry and you get the breakfast for free, is it conceivable that you'd pay more than 65 euro's in food and drinks if you stayed the entire day? I'll be honest, I'm a sex tourist and being outside a club does me no good, I can do that at home. I can go into World, Sharks, Mainhattan and Oase and know that I can easily stay at the club for 15 hours and be well fed (stretching it at Oase) and entertained for my admission fee. There's always girls to play with during the day when things are slow at these clubs. Can Oceans compete for my business (and others like me) who want the full package? Or would the daytime be better spent elsewhere, say Aca on friday morning and then Oceans at night?
[QUOTE=Pistons;1947403]Oh yes, Oceans lineup is now way ahead of sharks.
Sharks lineup is very bland in average now. I thought about leaving Sharks to go Oase or even drive the 2h to Oceans when I saw the bad LU at sharks. But was just too tired.[/QUOTE]When did you visit Sharks? And on which weekday?
HB.
[QUOTE=HessenBub;1947761]When did you visit Sharks? And on which weekday?
HB.[/QUOTE]Been to sharks on wed, Thur., Fri., sat and Sunday. Why? (This last weekend on friday and sunday). Were you there on friday? hehe
Breadman: unless you drink alot of alcohol, I'd go for the 50 entry if you arrive late and leave out the alcohol inclusion. It is only 1 included a la carte meal, so thats why it can be nice to get there early for the lunch also. Then you get the free entry too and can even get 2 a la carte meals and get a tab at the end on about 40-50e with some non alcoholic drinks included
[QUOTE=Pistons;1947403]Oh yes, Oceans lineup is now way ahead of sharks. Sharks has Mandy for me some nights to keep me non-bored when I go there with Takedown though. Was at sharks tonight again since it was takedowns birthday and he has something going here. But with girls I know I would have had more fun at oceans. Last night at Oceans I had 4 out 5 great sessions. At sharks tonight only 1 out of 3 was good. One was actually terrible too. But Mandy and Merci was not around and I opted away from girls like Erica and Yvette who could probably have been better. There is just more x factors among the Oceans lineup. Sharks lineup is very bland in average now. I thought about leaving Sharks to go Oase or even drive the 2h to Oceans when I saw the bad LU at sharks. But was just too tired.[/QUOTE]I don't know Oceans casting at the moment, but Sharks is also less attractive for me at the moment. Happy you had good Saturday at Oceans, sorry for kilometers. So many targets in NRW at the moment for me, and Globe.
[QUOTE=Pistons;1947762]Were you there on friday? hehe[/QUOTE]No he wasn't there on last Friday but I was there. LU with more than 100 girls and really quite good, and this from me! LOL.
I haven't had any issue with the LU but with the smoke at carp pond, that really bothers me.
[QUOTE=Craiova;1947779]No he wasn't there on last Friday but I was there. LU with more than 100 girls and really quite good, and this from me! LOL.
I haven't had any issue with the LU but with the smoke at carp pond, that really bothers me.[/QUOTE]Friday was good. Sunday was not equally good. For me at least.
[QUOTE=Pistons;1947782]Sunday was not equally good. For me at least.[/QUOTE]I usually avoid Sharks on sundays and wednesdays for sausage party. On these days much better club alternatives around Frankfurt.
[QUOTE=Craiova;1947779]No he wasn't there on last Friday but I was there. LU with more than 100 girls and really quite good, and this from me! LOL.
[/QUOTE]I can't imagine Ocean's LU being better than any of the big Hessen clubs. Or pistons has a very special taste in women.
HB.
[QUOTE=HessenBub;1947792]I can't imagine Ocean's LU being better than any of the big Hessen clubs. Or pistons has a very special taste in women.
HB.[/QUOTE]Then go and find out. Met a guy from Bavaria at Oceans too who normally goes to the hessen clubs too and agreed with me that Oceans has better optics... So thats alot of clubs to pass on the autobahn just to reach get there...
[QUOTE=HessenBub;1947792]I can't imagine Ocean's LU being better than any of the big Hessen clubs. Or pistons has a very special taste in women[/QUOTE]+ 1.
1.) I've never been at Oceans so far.
2.) From all for me reliable sources (guys and girls) I've heard so far only it isn't worth try this club.
3.) Oceans still a club cheat clients already at entrance and changes quite often prices and conditions and HP isn't accurate with current conditions at entry. = NoGo.
4.) Only club with 30 euro extra entry by taxi = NoGo.
5.) At every German forum I read Ocean's has in average a bad reputation, that mean service level, food or evening client structure. Even at the NRW number one forum Freiercafe in general most clients have bad experience at Ocean's especially with service quality.
6.) Even after almost 2 years Oceans still has a lot of entry price promotion. I remember last year 200 euro for one month entry or still right now and till next year a lot of even free entry vouchers, at FC you can see how to get these vouchers. And clear this brings many of these sausage party guys at Oceans. = NoGo.
7.) Ok optic level should sometimes quite good at Oceans but the average service level should be one of the worst at NRW, even more worse than Frankfurt Palace.
So still no reason to try Oceans, too many much better alternatives in NRW and Hessen.
[QUOTE=HessenBub;1947792]I can't imagine Ocean's LU being better than any of the big Hessen clubs. Or pistons has a very special taste in women.
[/QUOTE]+1 for Sharks anyways and even Oase. For my taste Oceans was better than Mainhattan for pure optiks. Have not been to Palace or World recently. No chance if you took the top 20 girls at Oceans they would be hotter than the top 20 at Sharks.
Then again, maybe Oceans has improved greatly over the past 3-4 months since I've been there, which I doubt.
[QUOTE=Craiova;1947800]2.) From all for me reliable sources (guys and girls) I've heard so far only it isn't worth try this club.[/QUOTE]
Having said the above I think this is very poor advice you are receiving. Oceans is still worth checking out on a weekend night from 7 pm til 1 am. Make your own personal judgement if it's good or not. Oceans is definitely not a dog house but to say it's better than Sharks for a first time customer walking into either club is ludicrous.
Please visit the place before talking about the LU. If you haven't visited, no basis to compare LUs. Yes, the entry issues are mentioned, but LU and service level is another aspect of the club. Visit the club, witness the girls, and take several sessions. Only then you have some idea about the club. Also, a more than one visit would give more reliable stats vs a single visit.
Service levels are good. Not with all girls, true. But the same can be said at every club. BB: LU has improved a bit since 4 months ago. Top 20 is good, so still better than top 20 sharks imo, but it drops a bit after top 20 maybe. But so does sharks too. Presentation is different since they wear more lingerie or even some dresses though. So it is hard to pinpoint all. Still silly how opinnionated you guys are with no clue as to who these girls are if I were to mention 15 names. And when the girl PL knows the name of claimed service was bad for is gone and at LR, perhaps average service has improved. Who knows for a first time customer? Im not a first time customer, so Ill let one first timer decide on that. Yet I guess I could have been considerred as one once there also. And it made me return.
PS: Craiova and HB are just trolling this section because of me anyway. Fun, but falls flat...dont see anybody had a lol moment from reading it either... and reliable, well I heard a few guys including that Bavarian guy had Oceans as his secret club. Didnt wanna tell their mongering friends from hessen or other places about it since they would come and ruin the market at Oceans for him. Not sure what he ment by that. Perhaps they would just take the top girls away in the room for 10 hours so that he wouldnt get to meet them. Or perhaps he then knew you would just be asking for rimming, and then they would be worried when frenching the girls afterwards... Maybe, but he is a reliable source to me.
[QUOTE=HessenBub;1947792]I can't imagine Ocean's LU being better than any of the big Hessen clubs. Or pistons has a very special taste in women.
HB.[/QUOTE]Well I think I've mentionned enough names in other threads to give an idea about what type of girls I like. Short, below 1. 70 at least. Which is why I rule out some of the girls on stilts at Sharks perhaps.
Siri: well I just broke my kilometer limit at the rental company by 34 km this trip, so it wasnt that bad. I like driving too though.
No. They have to change their business model which is based on deception and misinformation.
[QUOTE=Breadman;1947758] Can Oceans compete for my business (and others like me) who want the full package? Or would the daytime be better spent elsewhere, say Aca on friday morning and then Oceans at night?[/QUOTE]
Some quotes from FC to show hot local mostly experienced clubbers see Oceans and why I am not planning to waste my time for a visit (used Google Translate):
[QUOTE]die frauen machen ihre eigenen preise --habe eine sehr hbsche gefragt --sie wollte 100 fr 30 min. und 200 fr 60 min.[/QUOTE]The women make their own prices. Have asked a very pretty. She wanted 100 for 30 min. And 200 for 60 min.
[QUOTE]Die Wahl der richtigen Sexpartnerin fllt mir in keinem anderen Club so schwer wie im Oceans. Hier die Spreu vom Weizen zu trennen, ist aus mir unerfindlichen Grnden echt schwierig.[/QUOTE]The choice of the right sex partner is more difficult for me at Oceans. To separate the chaff from the wheat here is, for some unknown reason, really difficult.
[QUOTE]Hier gibt es in einer riesigen Schatztruhe vielleicht ein paar Juwelen, aber das meiste hier scheint nur geschliffenes Glas zu seineher was fr Optikficker, denen der Service nicht so wichtig ist
Nicht mein Laden, aber gesehen haben sollte man das schon mal[/QUOTE]Here in a huge treasure chest perhaps a few jewels, but most of it seems to be only polished glass. More for optics, the service is not so important.
Not my club, but you should have seen this one.
[QUOTE]Fazit : mit Freikarte bestckt ist das Oceans immer wieder mal einen Besuch wert ..ansonsten keine Ahnung , bei regulren 50 Euro wrde ich den ein oder anderen Club bevorzugen .[/QUOTE]Conclusion: with free entry Oceans is always worth a visit. Otherwise no idea, with regular 50 euro I would prefer the one or the other club.
[QUOTE]Die Nummer mit Mia war eigentlich eine Laufhausnummer wie aus dem Bilderbuch: Blasen mit Gummi, illusionsloser Sex, keine Ksse und Abspritzen nach sptestens 20 Minuten fr 50 Euro. Genau das selbe Programm ist auch im Pascha Standard![/QUOTE]The session with Mia was actually a Laufhaus session as from the picture book: blowing with rubber, illusionless sex, no kisses and cumshot after 20 minutes for 50 euros. Exactly the same program is standard at Pascha.
[QUOTE]Das zweite Mal auf dem Zimmer lande ich spter mit Dilek (22, Trkei).
Auf meine Frage nach kssen meint sie, das koste 50 Euro extra, aber ich knne auch eine Stunde mit kssen fr 150 bekommen Schnppchen!
Titten kssen zu wollen. Nee, das koste 30 Euro extra Megaangebot!
Beim zweiten Zimmer halte ich wie blich lnger durch, aber auch Dilek meint nach 20 Minuten, dass ich mich beeilen solle.
Selbst mit viel Cluberfahrung und Menschenkenntnis ist es hier zumindest am Wochenende kaum mglich die viele Spreu vom wenigen Weizen zu trennen, da im vollen Club bei lauter Musik Vorgesprche kaum durchfhrbar sind.
Da bezahle ich doch lieber Volleintritt in anderen Clubs, in denen die meisten Frauen kundenorientiert arbeiten, Zimmerzeiten normalerweise einhalten und nicht so dreist nachkobern. [/QUOTE]The second time in the room I land later with Dilek (22, Turkey).
On my question about kissing it means, that costs 50 euro extra, but I can also get an hour with kiss for 150 - bargain!
Wanted to kiss her tits. No this will cost 30 euros extra. Mega offer!
In the second room I continue as usual longer, but also Dilek means after 20 minutes that I should hurry.
Even with a lot of experience and human knowledge it is here at least at the weekend hardly possible to separate the many chaff from the few wheat.
I would rather pay full entrance in other clubs, where most women work in a customer-oriented manner, usually keep room times and do not upsell so brazenly.
[QUOTE]Mittlerweile ist es nach eins und der Club im vollen Partymodus.
Laufend checken junge Typen mit Freikarten ein. Ich habe nicht einen gesehen, der hier den vollen Eintrittspreis bezahlt htte. Ohne Freikarten wre der Laden vermutlich binnen Wochen mausetot!
Ich hatte im Oceans dem einzigen ebenerdigen Laufhaus Europas - heute wider Erwarten echt viel Spa!
Wenn man auf die Groraumdiskostimmung und die Gsteschaft dort klar kommt, bei der Frauenauswahl sehr kritisch ist und was den Service betrifft erst einmal nicht zu hohe Erwartungen hat, dann hat man Chancen, den Laden zufrieden zu verlassen![/QUOTE]Meanwhile it is after one and the club in the full Partymodus.
Young guys are constantly checking in with free tickets. I have not seen one who paid the full entrance fee here. Without free tickets the club would probably be dead in weeks!
I had a lot of fun in the Oceans. The only ground-level Laufhaus in Europe!
If one is aware. That the selection of women is very critical and as far as the service is concerned does not have too high expectations, then one has chances to leave the club satisfied.
HB.
Don't know Mia or Dilek (half the club these days is named ***ina anyway, so a non ***ina girl I allways remember the names of) Probably gone or bad optics as I have talked to all the top optics there ATM.
Service for me has been good there. I cannot speak for others, but it was above GT, Palace for sure, Artemis. About the same as Oase. But less upsell with me. Only had upsell in 2 out of some 25-30 sessions. And one was just a 20 euro upsell she came up with after 20 minutes. So a bit funny. Never had anyone make their own prices there though. That sounds like bullshit or a joke. Only seen that at Artemis once after the raid. And it sounds like they stopped doing that there now... Perhaps the poster has no sense of humor?
Then again, who knows if some girls there just tries to upsell older guys more than younger guys. I am not too old, so perhaps that is a bonus at Oceans. Maybe that guy looked like a wreak. My friend from Bavaria was about 50 and seemed like he was allways satisfied though. Ex athlete too might have helped...
If they cannot separate the good from the bad at Oceans, they just need glasses. Perhaps he is a noob with girls or needs it teaspooned...
Still, gotta suck to feel left out in the cold of the club with the best LU in Germany these days. I feel for those who feel that way. Really do...
When comparing optics, Sharks is my favorite club by far. I feel that it has a very diverse lineup, although Pistons is right that there is a large percentage of skinny women on stilts (They really need to stop wearing 20 cm heels!) If you like fashion model types, Sharks is king.
As for Oceans' optics, I will say that it is better than decent. On a Thursday night, it was on par with GoldenTime optics so I will assume that it is better on weekend nights. I don't think Oceans is a top tier club yet but it has the potential to be and can compete with the Big5 of Frankfurt, probably being better than Mainhattan and perhaps World from what I have read (I have not been to World in years). Five more top models would fix the line up and put the club in the same class as Oase.
They need to fix a few things like the the a-la-carte style food service and the lack of either a Jacuzzi or a pool.
As for service level, I think the club is so new that you get a lot of variation. It is not even 2 years old. When a dominant group of veteran girls start to form, then I think the service level would even out and you can better judge the club's overall service level.
[QUOTE=Takedown;1948020] Five more top models would fix the line up and put the club in the same class as Oase.
They need to fix a few things like the the a-la-carte style food service and the lack of either a Jacuzzi or a pool.[/QUOTE]Well, as you mentionned above. On a weekend there are more girls. So easily 5 more top models. On thursday you didn't see Alina, Larissa, Annabell, Melina, Akira or even Lucy or some of the taller girls some are into who were there on saturday. Though I know our taste differs a bit. But as for being a face guy, I feel there are a few too many standard romanian types at Sharks. Some of the Oceans romanians look less standardised. If you've seen 100 000 romanians you start to feel you have seen the same again and again. And there is more facial variety at Oceans than Sharks... Maybe more bodily variety at Sharks I can agree on. Especially if you compare a night with 50 girls at Oceans (thursday) to a day with 100 girls at Sharks. About the stilts. I think there could be more annorexia at Sharks. Oceans girls look a bit more healthy also...
Then again, you were with me at Oase in July on the night I deemed to have the best lineup ever at that club. Oase is not allways like that.
And I'm not sure you even noticed everyone as you did tell me 'who is that girl in black dress? She looks good' at 3am when nodding towards Eleny who had been there all night :p
First night at a new club... totally normal though. I do agree that towars the end of the night, the top girls are either in the room, or has left and gone to bed. So the lineup doesnt look as impressive the last 2 hours before closing allways. Maybe more so at Oceans compared to lets say Oase or some of the clubs that hold back the girls towards the end like World does and Artemis had to stop doing...
Pool next summer.
[QUOTE=Voyajer1;1947946]They have to change their business model which is based on deception and misinformation.[/QUOTE]+ 1 It's hard to believe that a club who is based on deception and misinformation has any interest that their club girls don't cheat and upsell their guests. And the club has an inflation on free entry vouchers. Without these free entry guys the club would be quite often empty according FC. Ozeans give away so many free entry vouchers (actual valid till January 16th, 2017 and with 15 euro Mindestverzehr) that already a internet market exist. For instance today you can buy at "ebay Kleinanzeigen" 15 Oceans free entry cards for 15 euro, an other guy offers 6 cards for 20 euro or an other guy sells card by card for 2,50 euro each. These huge amounts on the internet market shows me that the reputation of this club is close to zero. Any client who pay the full entry of 50 euro (or as heard according to smoking suite even more) must get feel cheated after he realise that most of guys have a free entry card.
I had 8 sessions. No upselling. Partially of those, ready to head out once I finished. Seems some are used to that. Hence, rushing with some. 3/8 good sessions is a bad statistic. I consider myself good at finding girls with good vibes that most often panes out to be good providers. Not here. Don't like the vibe.
No reason to believe in anything. Best just see and experience for yourselves. And some girls improve the more sessions you do with them at Oceans also. Had that happening with 3 different girls at least.
Ofcourse ambience is not for everyone. But that is something all can get a good idea on from the different club websites...
Well, the free entry ticket/different pricing structure will probably change once they get more non turkish visitors I would assume. The best thing they can do to achieve that is to get the right girls. Which they have. Now it is just a question of the chicken or the egg...
The rest are smaller issues (like the loud music sometimes with that bald guy, and the current lack of water in the oceans)
True Pistons. Best to exprience vs a report as it gives a full idea.
Have you ever experienced clubs and girls that actually give good service in general? Or is your idea a seemingly good session after a multitude?
My idea of heavily Turkish populated club is low odds of kissing or good kissing. Mainly suck and fuck services. Although it somestimes depends on the girl's likes for her service style at times.
[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1948940]
My idea of heavily Turkish populated club is low odds of kissing or good kissing. Mainly suck and fuck services. Although it somestimes depends on the girl's likes for her service style at times.[/QUOTE]Can't confirm this from my club experience. Most important for high Turkish population seems cheap entry and with this inflation of free entry tickets Oceans fit perfect for them.
At Hessen at the clubs with highest Turkish concentration like at Rom and Atlanta in the evenings is still a better average 50 euro service level than in the big Hessen clubs. At Rom and Atlanta DFK is still standard. And highest service level in Hessen was at the almost 100 % Turkish club Royal before closure one year ago.
[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1948940]
Have you ever experienced clubs and girls that actually give good service in general? Or is your idea a seemingly good session after a multitude?[/QUOTE]Not exactly sure what you mean here. With the Oceans girls I have yet to session with a girl that someone I have talked to have also been with. So saying a girl allways are good can be tricky with that in mind. Although perhaps some here on the forum knows Akira (ex Oase. Chinese / thai), or cute small romanian Celina from Sharks earlier this summer. Siri seems to know and have been with sexy Andra as well. All these 3 girls give great service and are at Oceans at the moment.
Some girls give good service on first session. Some on 2nd and later sessions. Some (or one) doesn't seem to improve. When girls are as new as some of these girls, their day form can be shifting though. Sierra seemed to be brand new to this, and unfortunately seems to be gone now. For the time being at least. Turkish/romanian Larissa is another brand new girl there now whos attitude reminds me of Sierra. (I havent been with either sierra nor larissa, but they bith look(ed) slightly uncomfortable or nervous). So this is not a place where you find many experienced girls who has been doing this for 5-10 years. Carly (ex Wellcum) was the exception maybe. And perhaps some of the girls such as Lucy, and that bulgarian Nicole Sherzinger lookalike. Akira is also quite experienced I suppose, and there was this small aprox 35-40 yr old colombian girl giving out some good experienced vibes last month reminding me of pro russian Ella at Artemis.
Personally I go for the optics (for me) at most clubs, and then try to get a good first session. Sometimes it works on first go. Sometimes I have to try a 2nd time. Only Raissa has still failed me after 2 rooms.
I agree Sharks has a core of some high performers who seems to be good for everyone. But they also have the bad girls. So thats why it is easier to navigate sharks as opposed to a club like Oceans when Sharks is filled with 30 locals each day all telling you which girl has a good reputation... but even there I was told someone like Mandy, who has given me the best service at Sharks among all the girls there, doesnt do it with everyone...
I like to think that all girls have a range, and where they deliver within that range can differ. Optics and chemistry is a part of it that can change your score of the girl with another guys score of the same girl also. That range can be anywhere from 4-6, to a 7-9 all depending on the day form also... some girls can take you for granted and skip forplay after several rooms too...
Any suggestions on how to get a free pass without having to pay a cover first?
[QUOTE=Pistons;1948950]Not exactly sure what you mean here.
Siri seems to know and have been with sexy Andra as well..[/QUOTE]I confirm when I saw Anda / Andra, she was attractive with pretty face, if only she said to kiss.
My problem at Oceans is not girls, they are women like anywhere, but I can't accept to be fucked by desk. Also prefer more light in rooms.
Pistons is also quite regular at Sharks, for small blond.
I never say about a casting, before visiting.
Fake blond Sierra. Ro was really pretty for me, a real model like Megan or Valentina, but couldn't compete in room, unfortunately, it could have been a great time with her, but only friendly and beautiful, not more. Reddish hair EMA. Ro from Harem Padenborn was quite good. I also met a pretty blond Polish, but average in room.
Maybe next time Pistons, sorry again, but running after too many NRW targets at the moment. At least, you can say about castings, each one his tastes of course, but you visit before writing about Oceans or Sharks or Oase and I know your kind of small Andra / Mersi / Mandy tastes, not so bad for me. Happy you found again Yvette.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;1949023]
Pistons is also quite regular at Sharks, for small blond.[/QUOTE]Haha, actually Oceans has more black haired lookers than blondes now. But you're right on height... taking cute over pretty any day...
Hi guys,
Getting ready to try my first FKK club. I'm doing a flexible road trip that could pass through Dusseldorf, up to Hamburg. Basically the whole of north west Germany is possible as a destination.
Reading about FKK Oceans in this thread, it seems from Pistons comments as though I'd prefer Sharks for a first time, but when I googled FKK Sharks it looks like it's South of Frankfurt, which isn't on the route at all.
Have I got it wrong? Is there another Sharks also in Dusseldorf? Or are you guys comparing clubs from a very wide geographic distribution?
I've got a fair bit of AMS RLD experience, which I know isn't that great and I've definitely had my ups and downs with it.
I'd love a recommendation for a standout FKK club somewhere in Dusseldorf or northwest, generally.
Is DFK hard to arrange at these places? I'd like to get into that.
I have a whole afternoon / evening.
[QUOTE=Pistons;1949188]Haha, actually Oceans has more black haired lookers than blondes now. But you're right on height... taking cute over pretty any day...[/QUOTE]Anda / Andra is not light hair anymore?
I love Romanian pretty face brunettes with slim body, a beauty at World made me learn to love them.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;1949209]Anda / Andra is not light hair anymore?
I love Romanian pretty face brunettes with slim body, a beauty at World made me learn to love them.[/QUOTE]Andra is blonde. Eleny, Malina, Mery, Corina, Elena, Sabrina and Celina too. Most of them fake blondes though.
But there are more brunettes: Alina, Lorena, Melina, Larissa, Lucy, Akira, Annabell, Raissa (used to be blonde), Isabell, Nicole Sherzinger, etc.
Some of the girls who has left like Dea, Andrea, Carly and Sierra were all blonde too, so the ratio has shifted towards brunettes, and more of those I don't have the names of are brunettes than blondes. Still it doesn't matter too much as there is good variety.
George: Oceans is probably the biggest nrw club. Just don't tell reception that you have not been there and try to speak some german to the receptionist when you get there. Also just lay the cash on the counter as soon as you get there.
Only reason Sharks may be better for a first timer is if you socialize with the german locals who knows half the girls there. Can do the same at Oceans, but there they might just know fewer girls. Sharks crowd seems to live at Sharks and are more furnitures. But some of the turks at Oceans claim they have reliable info. Also some of the younger germans, but they are not as many as at Sharks. Average client age is younger than at Sharks. So maybe different angles. I personally dont know.
Is Oceans officially a FKK club or a sauna club?
[QUOTE=Breadman;1949356]Is Oceans officially a FKK club or a sauna club?[/QUOTE]The name is FKK Oceans. But no demand to have the girls show their nipples while in the club. Like at Hessen, Berlin etc. I think all NRW clubs have the same choices for the girls. Arrest me if I am wrong.
If nipple showing is the definition decider, then I am unsure. If nipple peaking is your thing while in the club, then better not go to a club in nrw.
[QUOTE=Pistons;1949353]
Only reason Sharks may be better for a first timer is if you socialize with the german locals who knows half the girls there. Can do the same at Oceans, but there they might just know fewer girls. Sharks crowd seems to live at Sharks and are more furnitures.[/QUOTE]At Sharks are some guys know about one hundered girls by name. And that means nothing that doesn't mean they know anything about these girls and waste a lot of time to get and remember all these names. Optic tastes and sexual preferences are too different that guys club gossip is really helpful. I'm at clubs have fun with girls and I'm usally not interested socialize with guys at clubs.
[QUOTE=Craiova;1949362]At Sharks are some guys know about one hundered girls by name. And that means nothing that doesn't mean they know anything about these girls and waste a lot of time to get and remember all these names. Optic tastes and sexual preferences are too different that guys club gossip is really helpful. I'm at clubs have fun with girls and I'm usally not interested socialize with guys at clubs.[/QUOTE]I agree by large. Had very different experiences with girls at Sharks than what I have heard from locals too. Maybe some girls define you also by the guys you talk to. Lots of variables to consider. Can just enjoy the ride at the FKK clubs, look around different clubs and revisit those you like best yourself. That is probably the best recipie.
By the way, there is a 2 years anniversary at Oceans at the start of November. 2nd to 4th iirc (or 3rd to 5th maybe), and I think the poster at the entrance said something about 15 strippers or maybe it was 15 pornstars that would be there during those days. Might want to e mail the club to get this right though. Or check other forums for it. Website has nothing...
[QUOTE=GeorgeTStagg;1949203] I googled FKK Sharks it looks like it's South of Frankfurt, which isn't on the route at all.
Have I got it wrong? Is there another Sharks also in Dusseldorf? Or are you guys comparing clubs from a very wide geographic distribution?[/QUOTE]There is only 1 Sharks (Darmstadt, south of Frankfurt yes). This forum is about all of Germany. Even a few dutch clubs (YinYang/SixSense) down at the bottom by the Lounge thread.
[QUOTE=Craiova;1949362]At Sharks are some guys know about one hundered girls by name. And that means nothing that doesn't mean they know anything about these girls and waste a lot of time to get and remember all these names. Optic tastes and sexual preferences are too different that guys club gossip is really helpful. I'm at clubs have fun with girls and I'm usally not interested socialize with guys at clubs.[/QUOTE]Completely on line with you and I do the same, some girls are reported in this forum to be low or even bad performers and they are really top girls for me, it depends on expectations, chemie between the people. After 15 years of FKK visits (hundred and hundred of times) I think I know less than 10 girl names and it is right like this. This is 1 part of my life that I share with nobody even my best friends.
[QUOTE=GeorgeTStagg;1949203]Hi guys,
Getting ready to try my first FKK club. I'm doing a flexible road trip that could pass through Dusseldorf, up to Hamburg. Basically the whole of north west Germany is possible as a destination.
Reading about FKK Oceans in this thread, it seems from Pistons comments as though I'd prefer Sharks for a first time, but when I googled FKK Sharks it looks like it's South of Frankfurt, which isn't on the route at all.
Have I got it wrong? Is there another Sharks also in Dusseldorf? Or are you guys comparing clubs from a very wide geographic distribution?
I've got a fair bit of AMS RLD experience, which I know isn't that great and I've definitely had my ups and downs with it.
I'd love a recommendation for a standout FKK club somewhere in Dusseldorf or northwest, generally.
Is DFK hard to arrange at these places? I'd like to get into that.
I have a whole afternoon / evening.[/QUOTE]For a first timer I recommend you (if it is possible) to concentrate on Frankfurt area, first of all you have the biggest club there and second the girls are mostly nude which is a great experience. If you will visit Shark, Oase, World, I don t believe you can be disappointed.
[QUOTE=ExpatLover;1949501]For a first timer I recommend you (if it is possible) to concentrate on Frankfurt area, first of all you have the biggest club there and second the girls are mostly nude which is a great experience. If you will visit Shark, Oase, World, I don t believe you can be disappointed.[/QUOTE]Thanks guys. You've convinced me to get to Frankfurt, but for this trip the logistics aren't going to fit. Heading 2 h south only to head north again will add 4 h.
At present I'm looking at teenyland and the Nylon Cafe in the Cologne area, and I'll try to find a good club in the Flensburg area as well.
I understand what you're saying about the benefits of scale.
I'll report back with my experiences.
[QUOTE=Craiova;1949362]At Sharks are some guys know about one hundered girls by name. And that means nothing that doesn't mean they know anything about these girls[/QUOTE]Are you sure? I met one of those guys hanging around on Saturdays and Sundays and he knew a lot beside the names of 20 or 30 girls of the day:
Kissing or not kissing++small pussy or big pussy++good service or bad service.
[QUOTE=ExpatLover;1949501]For a first timer I recommend you (if it is possible) to concentrate on Frankfurt area, first of all you have the biggest club there and second the girls are mostly nude which is a great experience. If you will visit Shark, Oase, World, I don t believe you can be disappointed.[/QUOTE]This is honestly a bullshit advise. Nudeness can get bland, and in many cases some clothes can be much more intrieging than all nudeness. I also cannot see anything a place such as World has over Oceans. Oase and Sharks also during the winter doesn't have much on it. But these things have been discussed already. This thread is getting oversaturated by guys who it seems have never been to Oceans though.
As for scale and numbers (at least during the weekends. And perhaps thursday/sundays also), Oceans is the largest in the area you are travelling through...
[QUOTE=GeorgeTStagg;1950027]Thanks guys. You've convinced me to get to Frankfurt, but for this trip the logistics aren't going to fit. Heading 2 h south only to head north again will add 4 h.
At present I'm looking at teenyland and the Nylon Cafe in the Cologne area, and I'll try to find a good club in the Flensburg area as well.
I understand what you're saying about the benefits of scale.
I'll report back with my experiences.[/QUOTE]Funny how these forums work, I have been to hessen clubs and NRW clubs. My opinion would be opposite of what you have heard so far. Not saying one is right or wrong but for a first timer I would most definitely suggest the clubs in NRW. Hessen is closer to the main airport and in return any first timer will be looked at as bait for the girls to make some quick cash. I personally have found the NRW girls to be much friendlier and treat you as if they don't know your a tourist more then in hessen.
I would suggest skipping teenyland (been there) and heading for one of the main clubs talked about here. I would first go to Aca so the girls don't overwhelm and swarm you, then I would follow it up with any combination of GT, LR, Samya, YY and Oceans. I haven't been to Oceans in a year but from what I have heard here it will be the club I spend my next Friday in to see what it's like. Either way the only way to actually figure out what you like and whether any talk on here is useful to you is for you to visit different clubs and form your own opinion. Good luck.
This thread is filled with guys who has:
# 1 Not been to Oceans, and oversee the important stuff (the girls) because of unimportant stuff (the easily worked around receptionists).
# 2 Only gone to the room with a few of the early comming girls. My 2 worst sessions were with early showers at Oceans. And PL claims another one of the early girls who has left now were also bad in bed. Girls arriving after 17-18.00 has for some reason a much higher level in the room. Maybe there is an odd reason for that since options were so few in the past that they could control the market at those hours easier.
[QUOTE=Pistons;1950276]This thread is getting oversaturated by guys who it seems have never been to Oceans though.[/QUOTE]Two visits to Oceans for me both Saturday nights; about a year apart. Only one session each time.
Last visit even worse than the first, Jasmin (Spanish apparently, whatever) tried to get 50€ extra for BBBJ though she backed down after yet another boring discussion to follow the half hour or one hour "blah blah". Stiff legs in cowgirl and onto missionary almost immediately accompanied by the usual "Come Baby" crap; in which case I did because I wanted to go and order my dinner; only to find it appears they have removed the starter from the menu.
Club full of groups of men shouting at each other all over, reserved tables have the tinniest piece of card to indicate that fact, entertainment better than other clubs, with even a girl singing live. Robotman was slightly amusing for the first five minutes after which it became tiresome.
In short the worst club I've been to in Germany I won't be going back there again.
Hardly a spanish girl at Oceans. Says alot regarding your knowledge of FKK's. Maybe you believing her on that made her think you were totally new? If I had a session like you on my only visit, I wouldn't return also. But I still have only had 2 in 30 rooms.
Some party nights can get loud. The reserved table markers? Really? So I guess you actually reserved something? Or are you complaining about others reserving? I tend to get offered fruit by random guys when I crash next to some of these groups all the time there. Who cares what is reserved? It is not a secret society of masons with plans to kill some ethnic group, or plan a secret fraud or corrupt business deal in private... VIP rooms are for that. LOL!
[QUOTE=Pistons;1950339]Hardly a spanish girl at Oceans. Says alot regarding your knowledge of FKK's. Maybe you believing her on that made her think you were totally new?[/QUOTE]Well well well.
[QUOTE=Ableyone;1295506]Amelia works in a club full of Romanian girls claiming to be Spanish, Italian, Moldovan etc and she gets upset because someone might think she's Romanian![/QUOTE]
Ruby (Palace) once got pissed at me for saying she was romanian and not spanish after I overheard her speak romanian at dinner once too.
'I learnt it while working at FKK's'.
Sure.
And slim Brianna at Artemis...
[QUOTE=Pistons;1950339]The reserved table markers? Really? So I guess you actually reserved something? Or are you complaining about others reserving? I tend to get offered fruit by random guys when I crash next to some of these groups all the time there. Who cares what is reserved? It is not a secret society of masons with plans to kill some ethnic group, or plan a secret fraud or corrupt business deal in private... VIP rooms are for that. LOL![/QUOTE]I was just asked to move whilst sat in a completely vacated area. I don't have problem with that but they should get a bigger fucking sign.
I don't know how much it costs to reserve such an area as I would never need to, since I go to a club to fuck girls not hang out with me mates. Still those guys can probably afford it if unlike me they not paying 50€ to get inside.
[QUOTE=Ableyone;1950350] but they should get a bigger fucking sign.[/QUOTE]Well, guys with anger management problems are probably best kept outside the club anyway.
Now given that you don't seem to have spent all your time in the room or with a girl/girls, socializing just a little bit might get you a long way away from being asked to move away from a table there even if some guys have reserved it. Not that there usually is lack of seats anyway...
The yelling is probably just a result of that lame jukeboxers attempt at being original by turning up and down the volume. I agree it can get a bit annoying. But it is survivable and he is not allways there I believe. Sometimes some of the girls take over too...
And the only reason why some guys don't get the free entry tickets is that you just don't go there often enough. Took a few entries before I started getting them too. Not that 'free entry' really is free entry anyway. Last time I used one I ended up with a tab at 43 euro...
Do like me though. Just leave a note for the manager every time you leave a club for anything you want to comment on. Positives or negatives...
[QUOTE=Pistons;1949353]Andra is blonde.
But there are more brunettes: Nicole Sherzinger,
Some of the girls who has left like Dea, Andrea, Carly and Sierra were all blonde too, so the ratio has shifted towards brunettes, and more of those I don't have the names of are brunettes than blondes. Still it doesn't matter too much as there is good variety..[/QUOTE]Nicole works at Oceans after Lewis Hamilton?
[QUOTE=Pistons;1950367]Well, guys with anger management problems are probably best kept outside the club anyway.
And the only reason why some guys don't get the free entry tickets is that you just don't go there often enough. [/QUOTE]I don't say anything about casting level without visiting and seeing with my eyes, but I know what is written on desk and on internet about Oceans entry, and staff don't respect us. They would be more honest writing entry is 65.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;1950740]I don't say anything about casting level without visiting and seeing with my eyes, but I know what is written on desk and on internet about Oceans entry, and staff don't respect us. They would be more honest writing entry is 65.[/QUOTE]Well, I did have a free entry ticket ready for you that day.
Yes Nicole Sherzinger dumped Lewis Hamilton to have a chance to have sex with you. Hehe.
[QUOTE=Pistons;1951619]Well, I did have a free entry ticket ready for you that day.
Yes Nicole Sherzinger dumped Lewis Hamilton to have a chance to have sex with you. Hehe.[/QUOTE]Sorry again and thanks for the free entry. At Globe, I pay 95 CHF for entry, but I can't accept how behave Oceans desk. I will have to wait for a while, but after, LR, Aca, World and Globe will be my clubs, but maybe on next time. Enjoy your girls.
This thread is turning into a Piston's personal blog. LOL.
Pistons, I may try this place out again mid-week this time. Sure as hell won't be doing weekend late night again. Don't have high expectations (given my service odds I've had here, partially due to bad ratio on visits with limited availability of girls), but curious how mid-week is like.
If I do, I'd like to drop in during the evening than waste my time during the day. If they let me in for 30 that would work, but I'd prefer a free card if I can get a hand on them. Is there a place(or sources) I can pick some up?
According to Pistons, Oceans casting seem to worth on Friday and Saturday nights.
[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1951853] but I'd prefer a free card if I can get a hand on them. Is there a place(or sources) I can pick some up?[/QUOTE]Option a would be the pocket of that big bouncer who might sometimes need a helping hand. Preferably at night after he has looked at alot of sexy young girls, not being allowed to get of by himself.
For option b, you would just have to do some lobbying while inside. I went for option b myself, but good luck :)
The problem with this thread turning into my personal blog now is that girls there are onto who I am. At least one of them know. I have just left way too many clues here I think, lol
Then again, I feel some of the girls there need more pr compared to some other clubs that gets tons for mediocreness... mid week could be ok. Maybe not monday/tuesday though.
Siri, I know :)
[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1951853]but I'd prefer a free card if I can get a hand on them. Is there a place(or sources) I can pick some up?[/QUOTE]Look at German app "ebay Kleinanzeigen" and search for "Freikarte Oceans" you'll find there some offers starting from 1,50 Euro per free card; valid till January 16th, 2017 and you must spend for drinks or food at least 15 euro at Oceans. Personal still no interest on this club, time too precious.
[QUOTE=Pistons;1951884]
For option b, you would just have to do some lobbying while inside. I went for option b myself, but good luck :)
[/QUOTE]So you mean you've given Oceans reception your ISG nick to get free tickets.
I can't wait to get back to Oceans. I went last time with a friend and had an amazing time. It was a Friday night and we got there around 2 am. Stayed till 7 am. See my report from that time. The layout was probably the best of any FKK club (with the exception of Sakura) and there were a lot of pretty girls. I remember going with a tall blonde German girl (can't remember her name now) and a Romanian girl later.
I didn't know about the food situation there- that you have to order it I think. Sill it was definitely a club I'd revisit. The outdoor area was great too! Next time I'd like to go earlier around 6 pm and stay the whole night. It is the only FKK I know that stays open till 7 am! Therefore I am surprised by the number of negative comments about it.
[QUOTE=Craiova;1951941]So you mean you've given Oceans reception your ISG nick to get free tickets.[/QUOTE]Haha, nope. Sorry to disappoint.
[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1951853]This thread is turning into a Piston's personal blog. LOL.[/QUOTE]I was happy to meet Pistons at Sharks, he is one of the few reliable members for me on this forum, I mean for what he looks for with girls. At least, he visits Oceans before writing, when some didn't. Same like those who were writing about World on Winter 2014/2015, at least I was there every Saturday.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;1951874]According to Pistons, Oceans casting seem to worth on Friday and Saturday nights.[/QUOTE]For me, not worth Fri or Sat nights. 20:1 ratio of punters / girls noticed when I arrived around midnight. Not so bad earlier in the evening. Mondial is just as bad. Horrible ratio during late hours on those days.
Good ratio and availability of girls is most important. You see what girls are all available and being able to talk to the ones you are interested in. If the ratio of horrible, majority of the punters will be seeking out the popular ones in looks. And end up waiting around for the girl that you are interested in? Not my idea of a good time as I don't make it out to De all that much.
I hope mid-week and weekend arn't significant difference in the LU. I spotted a few hotties last time, but the ratio was so unfavorable.
[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1952494]For me, not worth Fri or Sat nights. 20:1 ratio of punters / girls noticed when I arrived around midnight. Not so bad earlier in the evening. Mondial is just as bad. Horrible ratio during late hours on those days.[/QUOTE]Mondial likely has the most girls in NRW consistently every single night of the week. There is not a 20:1 ratio of guys to girls there. It just seems that way since most of the guys are bigger dudes. Also, most girls are in play the majority of the night. The guys there only do short rooms or now rooms at all.
Agree arriving at Mondial on any night at midnight is a dumb move. Mondial is best from 7 - 10 pm. Visit accordingly. Find your girls for the night by 10 pm and bury yourself in the room before the masses of Turks arrive.
As for Oceans, prime time there is likely 6:30 -11 pm.
Ok, Mondial isn't quite as bad as Oceans, but the place has gotten worse over time for weekend nights because I have always visited late nights from the beginning(before the reno, etc..). My last two visits were, one after Ramadan, and one in October. The crowds were just as bad as after Ramadan.
I remember when the club wasn't as packed with many more girls, and usually there were bunch of girls dancing, group dances, etc. Not lately, things has changed, not the same atmosphere. Lots of wait for rooms by the entry and many guys waiting for the girls. So, there are plenty of men looking to do rooms as you see girls walking back and forth between front area and rooms.
[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1952494]For me, not worth Fri or Sat nights. 20:1 ratio of punters / girls noticed when I arrived around midnight. Not so bad earlier in the evening. Mondial is just as bad. Horrible ratio during late hours on those days..[/QUOTE]Not every weekend is the same. There can be 80-90 girls on Fri. / sat. There are not 360 guys inside at once. Not sure how many lockers they have, but hardly much more than 250.
Maybe 2:1 at peak hours is more standard. Even 3:1 must have been a special night...
But I do agree thursdays for example have better ratios during peak hours from about 11 to 02... but you can allways come at 19 and leave at 6 also...
There were group dances on the bar and on the stage in september. But it doesnt happen all the time. The day in september was a friday. According to the girls it depends on their mood and if they have the energy for it... even saw a little bit in october also on a saturday, but not as much as in sept. Maybe you were in the room now in oct when they were dancing also (or were you talking about Mondial?). Then again, some nights lots of the most active dancers can be in the room busy also... a little sad Dea left beause she was one of those who liked to dance. But it really is something the girls do on their own will. So we can just improve their mood by making them happy in the room early at night I suppose... at least Lorena has started dancing too now. Her and Eleny is a hot duo...
I wasn't taking account of girls in rooms, just basing off what I saw on the floor. If you count the number girls in the rooms, the ratio isn't so extreme. What I saw on the floor was about that bad. If there were 250 guys, I'd say there were about 10-15 girls on the floor max.
I was talking about Mondial.
Perhaps Eleny was the blond I saw dancing with Dea on the night. Hot, never seen her before. Was definately interested in her. After she got off the stage, she headed off toward the sauna area and of course group of guys that got her attention followed her. This is why I hate bad ratios. Limits your choice. Few hot chicks and horrible ratio is just a tease.
[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1952494]For me, not worth Fri or Sat nights. 20:1 ratio of punters / girls noticed when I arrived around midnight. Not so bad earlier in the evening.
Good ratio and availability of girls is most important. You see what girls are all available and being able to talk to the ones you are interested in. If the ratio of horrible, majority of the punters will be seeking out the popular ones in looks. And end up waiting around for the girl that you are interested in? Not my idea of a good time as I don't make it out to De all that much.
I hope mid-week and weekend arn't significant difference in the LU. I spotted a few hotties last time, but the ratio was so unfavorable.[/QUOTE]I go in clubs when casting is good, I don't care about other guys, because most are afraid of pretty girls, thinking they will be treated like shit. I always go to the prettiest girls, so, except only one challenger at Sharks, and at Globe, no problem for me about ratio, like at Sharks on Sunday. At Oceans, or Sharks, or World, really no problem about Turkish for competition, we don't go to same girls, I let them fat ones.
PL: Sounds you got unlucky on the night you were there. Don't think I've seen a night that full of guys.
Hi friends,
Heading for Dusseldorf 2 weeks from now, I hope these basic questions about Oceans are not too much boring:
1- Do you see any nipples or are all of them covered?
2- How much do you pay the girls for 30 minutes?
3- How is this club compared to other FKKs in Dusseldorf? I found Magnum, Living Room, Dolce Vita, any other?
A- in terms of men: women ratio?
Be- in terms of price?
See- in terms of lineup, scenery?
4- I like Caribbean and Latina girls. Can you find those in any of these clubs?
5- Any other help for a guy wanting to get the best from limited time in Dusseldorf is appreciated.
Thanks.
Girls are wearing minimum of two piece outfits like a bikini or lingerie. Some wear more, dress or other types of outfits(Oceans). Some girls at LR will have their tops off, so nipples.
50 Euros per half HR rate. Not entirely sure about Oceans for extras, but generally around Duss, it's 50 for Anal and 25 for CIM. This price is definite at LR.
Read Oceans and DV webpage on details for entry pricing. There are complexities in how they operate their pricing.
LR is simple, 60 Euros, bottled beers, soft drinks, and meals included in the entry. DV, tap beer, soft drinks, and also meals included. LR meals are better. Oceans, it's complex, read the webpage.
Best ratio and service at LR. Largest(spacy high ceiling), the flashiest (looking more like a club/disco, decorated) would be Oceans. DV is flashy as well, but small scaled like LR. When you walk into LR, it should be obvious a large house was remodeled to be club. Oceans has the worst ratio on weekend night (late), and LR does get crowded on weekend night as well. DV not so much. Oceans is not so active during daytime, whereas LR is.
My suggestion is avoid Oceans late night on Fri or Sat night. LR not as bad, but better off avoiding those nights if looking for better ratio and therefore better availability of girls.
LR has the best management, friendliest, most helpful staff. Since Oceans will try to fool patrons with pricing, doesn't really compare to LR management. DV management isn't all that great either IMO.
Usually same rates for extra than in Hessen at Oceans, twice more than in most NRW.
[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1954411]
My suggestion is avoid Oceans late night on Fri or Sat night. LR not as bad, but better off avoiding those nights if looking for better ratio and therefore better availability of girls.
LR has the best management, friendliest, most helpful staff. Since Oceans will try to fool patrons with pricing, doesn't really compare to LR management. DV management isn't all that great either IMO.[/QUOTE]There are a few girls at Oceans I only see during weekends. So for those who prefer those girls, there is a larger amount of girls available, maybe about 85 compared to about 50-65 on days like thursday/sunday etc. Then again most of my favourites also work days like wed / thur/sun so I can see those days being equally good.
The Oceans manager was very acommodating to me when I met him. So no complaints here from me.
Read this thread regarding the entry pricing issue also. It is not a big deal. Or shouldnt have to be if you are smart about it.
[QUOTE=Sanpedro;1954356]
5- Any other help for a guy wanting to get the best from limited time in Dusseldorf is appreciated.
Thanks.[/QUOTE]If you are a smoker LR is fine. If you are not, or do not like a smoke-filled environment it is awful. Friendly staff there and the food is fine though the dining area is small. Free beers. I like Oceans much better. Bigger club. Flash as PL says. I've never had any issue with ratio or LU. It's door policy on fees is inconsistent and deserves criticism but if you are a tourist (as I am) do you really worry about a few euros? Try several of the clubs. I wouldn't miss Oceans if I were you.
[QUOTE=PayForIt;1954743]I like Oceans much better. Bigger club. Flash as PL says. I've never had any issue with ratio or LU. It's door policy on fees is inconsistent and deserves criticism but if you are a tourist (as I am) do you really worry about a few euros? Try several of the clubs. I wouldn't miss Oceans if I were you...[/QUOTE]Problem is not about a few € when I pay with great pleasure 95 CHF +10% at Globe, but to accept or not to be fucked, as a tourist. Same for me with girls who try to upsell, usually they don t dare with me.
At LR, everything is clear, entry rate, same girls rate like in NRW, also for extra. I hate smoke, my girl smoke but I have no problem with her when we sit.
Thanks guys, you are terrific.
I checked the website of Oceans regarding entrance. I am not sure if you are aware about the following (copied): "Therefore, please use our free shuttle service!
Just under 0211-XXXXX866 call and we pick you up free in Dusseldorf and surroundings!
Just one question remains unanswered: I like Caribbean and Latina girls. Can you find those in any of these clubs? Any experience with that?
[QUOTE=Sanpedro;1954900]Thanks guys, you are terrific.
I checked the website of Oceans regarding entrance. I am not sure if you are aware about the following (copied): "Therefore, please use our free shuttle service!
Just under 0211-XXXXX866 call and we pick you up free in Dusseldorf and surroundings!
Just one question remains unanswered: I like Caribbean and Latina girls. Can you find those in any of these clubs? Any experience with that?[/QUOTE]Well, they might pick you up for free, but then you have to pay 30 e extra for entrance when you arrive by taxi So make sure it is a long trip at least, hehe.
About latina, well romanians are actually a latin people:
[URL]https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latin_peoples[/URL]
If you ment latin american, then I spotted a colombian there once. Might be more, but not too many. There are 2-3 blacks that may or may not be caribbeans.
[QUOTE=Pistons;1955030]Well, they might pick you up for free, but then you have to pay 30 e extra for entrance when you arrive by taxi So make sure it is a long trip at least, hehe.Snip[/QUOTE]It's their free shuttle, not a taxi, so why would there be the 30 Euro taxi surcharge?
[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;1955163]It's their free shuttle, not a taxi, so why would there be the 30 Euro taxi surcharge?[/QUOTE]Ok. Maybe you are right.
I don't see the statement about taxi surcharge anymore, and all the same as before except that and another thing.
With G-translate, I'm not sure if this statement comes out right.
Warning:
If you arrive by taxi this entry table is not valid!
The entrance fee is higher in this case! Therefore, please use our free shuttle service!
Just under 0211-65859866 call and we pick you up free in Dusseldorf and surroundings!
The entry table referring to the Free happy HR entry, 30 Euros or 50 option.
So, I can call this shuttle in Duss area, and get a ride for free, but also free entry if I get to the club early enough? Or 30 Euros or 50 valid still? That is if the shuttle is available during those hrs, and also how many shuttles do they got? Funny how this is written for a club that tries to BS entry prices to tourists.
Another funny thing is I don't see the statement regarding min 15 Euro spending requirement.
Just tell the female receptionist that you have a long tongue. That should fix any misunderstandings... lol
[QUOTE=Sanpedro;1954900]
Just one question remains unanswered: I like Caribbean and Latina girls. Can you find those in any of these clubs? Any experience with that?[/QUOTE]I think Sky club in Wuppertal, not far from Dusseldorf.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;1954894]
At LR, everything is clear, entry rate, same girls rate like in NRW, also for extra. I hate smoke, my girl smoke but I have no problem with her when we sit.[/QUOTE]One thing is not clear at LR. The air. The smoke in the main lounge is thick and cancer inducing. I'd rather go to a club where the pricing is not clear, where the service is variable than a club which gives me an untreatable and potentially fatal disease.
My first visit to LR was good, I had too many beers and did not realise how thick the smoke is. Oceans is very significantly a better club than LR. Bigger, more girls, better facilities, better wellness, IMHO better line up, closer to the airport, more space, but most importantly. It has a smoke tent OUTSIDE the club which means the air is clear.
[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1952649]
Perhaps Eleny was the blond I saw dancing with Dea on the night. Hot, never seen her before. Was definately interested in her. [/QUOTE]Well, she looks 95% like Ariana Grande. So deffinately got that star factor. So if you like one of them, you surely like the other one too. One must be gay no to I suppose. And she has some very cute thing about her voice. Could be a singer for sure. Maybe they got separated at birth.
I dunno if we are referring to the same girl. She looked nothing like Arianna Grande. Arianna Grande is Italian. She didn't have the look. Shaggy blond, light skinned, color stripped bikini. More Polish or Russian look.
She could be one of several that goes on stage.
When I was walking down from a session, saw a pretty face brunette walking down with a punter. I wuz like damn! I hate these scenarios, thinking to myself where the hell was she hiding at? Go back downstairs, in one of the worst sausagefest ever to look for her. This is why I dislike this club. I prefer a decent ratio so that I can see all the girls in attendance and have some decent chance to get with the one I find most attractive. I did stop by on midnight. If I saw those 2 earlier on free'd up, that would be 2 sessions. If those sessions were good, there would be glowing reviews that's for sure. Haha.
I won't say avg LU is top either just because I saw a few girls that got my attention. With what I've experienced so far, not a good club for me. Looks nice though.
Polish / russian look. Then probably malina. She has some russian look to her and fits your description too.
I think you just hit a very busy night. Not all days are that busy. Or get there at 6 or 7 and meet them when they arrive.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;1955537]I think Sky club in Wuppertal, not far from Dusseldorf.[/QUOTE]Thanks Sirioja, Has anybody been at Sky?
Back to Oceans, I am going to be in the area Sunday-Monday. How are those days in terms of ration, etc?
I did mention I visited on a weekend night on two different occasians. After Ramadan and early Sept. Early Sept visit confirmed weeked night amounts to a major Turkish sausagefest.
Oceans is another one of those Turkish night clubs. Trend of those types of clubs are girls try them out and typically move on in a short period. There maybe a fraction that are regular or has been there like the 3 ex-Aca girls, but there are girls that left like Dea, Erika, Daisy. Also, there are other additional girls that I have seen at other clubs or left oceans. Also, that Siera chick went to PHG and god knows where else after.
If you done rounds at the NRW quite a bit you should have a better idea and know what catagory of clubs they fit in.
Here some info for ya:
Magnum, PHG, VV falls under the same ownership now. Mainly dead during the day, and not nearly as filled with girls as it used to be. Also the hrs are shifted for peak LU to arrive even later before new ownership.
Oceans has the same traits as what Magnum is/was. High Turkish arrival on weekends late at night, and slow during the day. Good amount of turnover of girls. This is why I have doubts those two girls will be there if I visit again.
YY, Magnum, PHG, VV, Oceans share similar traits.
Turkish(and Kurdish) makeup a huge club attending populus in the region. Samya, Aca, Mondial, Magnum, Oceans, etc. Etc..
Indeed they do move around alot. Too bad it is so hard to track them all though. But there seems to be some girls that seems to have stayed at Oceans for awhile now without moving on for 6-9 months already. A core of some hot girls. But the turnover is also there as you point out. The ones you mention are not my favourites though, so it might be different for different persons.
[QUOTE=SanPedro;1956403]Thanks Sirioja, Has anybody been at Sky?[/QUOTE]I did it once and may not return. Yes the girls are Latin, from Central & South America. But sadly the majority are not very attractive, young & svelte. Most girls there either don't look that good, have weight issues or should have given up a decade ago, many have a combination of these failings. Good luck on finding a girl there that could make it in a top tier FKK.
Yesterday night was 2 years celebration party at Oceans. Today will be the same. I went in way too early at 17. The place was really quiet until 21. But it was nice to eat at peace and have a few free beers before 19.
Many male guests had civil clothes and the mixture of robes and normal clothes looked stupid IMO.
Most of the girls wore a dress last night. Overall the lineup was nothing special but there were a few nice legs and asses on display in tight dresses. Timea was going around topless showing her well shaped big natural tits. Best sales asset for her. I had a 30 min session with those jugs. She wanted 70 first but we settled for 60. Mechanical and rushed service from her.
There were a few strippers and Hungarian pornostars giving pole dances during the evening. Those ladies had massive silicon tits and more ink on the body than Tommy Lee.
This was my second visit to Oceans and I won't be back soon. Atmosphere sucked and too many arabs/turkish punters. There are much nicer clubs in DUS with better looking hookers.
[QUOTE=FinnishFucker;1958671]
Many male guests had civil clothes and the mixture of robes and normal clothes looked stupid IMO.
She wanted 70 first but we settled for 60. Mechanical and rushed service from her.[/QUOTE]I have same opinion mix of clothes looks stupid.
Ups like entrance fee mix at Oceans the girls there are free to make her own price? Why she did want 70 and final 60 Euro?
Thanks for your report confirms me don't go to Oceans.
Agreed. Mixing street clothes and robes / towels is ridiculous. Standard pricing is 50€/30 min, or did I get something wrong?
HB.
[QUOTE=HessenBub;1958683]Agreed. Mixing street clothes and robes / towels is ridiculous. Standard pricing is 50/30 min, or did I get something wrong?
HB.[/QUOTE]I think there is no standard pricing at Oceans. You have to negotiate with the girls. Not really convenient.
Timea told me first her price was 70 Euro /30 minutes. After the fuck she asked me "how much you pay me?" I told her 60 Euro. Could have tried 50 Euro but 10 Euro tip for nice tits is justified for me.
[QUOTE=SanPedro;1956403]Thanks Sirioja, Has anybody been at Sky?
Back to Oceans, I am going to be in the area Sunday-Monday. How are those days in terms of ration, etc?[/QUOTE][URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1100-Other-FKK-Clubs&p=1955338&viewfull=1[/URL]#post1955338.
[QUOTE=FinnishFucker;1958671]Yesterday night was 2 years celebration party at Oceans. Today will be the same. I went in way too early at 17. The place was really quiet until 21. But it was nice to eat at peace and have a few free beers before 19.
Many male guests had civil clothes and the mixture of robes and normal clothes looked stupid IMO.
Most of the girls wore a dress last night. Overall the lineup was nothing special but there were a few nice legs and asses on display in tight dresses. Timea was going around topless showing her well shaped big natural tits. Best sales asset for her. I had a 30 min session with those jugs. She wanted 70 first but we settled for 60. Mechanical and rushed service from her.
There were a few strippers and Hungarian pornostars giving pole dances during the evening. Those ladies had massive silicon tits and more ink on the body than Tommy Lee.
This was my second visit to Oceans and I won't be back soon. Atmosphere sucked and too many arabs/turkish punters. There are much nicer clubs in DUS with better looking hookers.[/QUOTE]It took a few visits to get a better feel of the place. I've noticed girls wearing dresses and other outfits(other than lingerie or swimsuits, etc.). Probably not as much as the party, could be due to special occasion. More they wear, more they can hide, and surprises you find in the room. I'm ok with 2 pieces, but things like wrap around for their legs and asses, wearing things around their abdominal area, or dresses will likely come out with surprises in the room.
I haven't had such a bad luck with pricing as I had 8 sessions there (not so many considering how many visits I've had since they opened, well atleast for my standards. LOL. I will do 3-5 on a visit if a good one and see potential) as I just paid them no questions asked. Perhaps they know tourists among the usual crowd (Turkish / Arabs) if they see them as they would stick out, and of course when the ratio is so bad, with being a seller's market, more likely they'd try to over quote you above the standard 50. Also, girls have complained of low-ballers there as well, so dunno what's up your situation. You're going get those cheap types with the frei entry cards. When I meet guys that never been to other clubs in the area, and also some dude that had no idea you take the girl to the room, you probably get few of those fly-in types has no idea of the pricing.
As far as civi clothing, what's the point in a club full of paid girls?
Ok the mix of street clothes and robes is ridiculous (like the fact that they insist you must wear your robe in eating area and lounge).
But please, especially hessen guys, don't be ridicuolous pretending to have an opinion before having actually visited the club.
The club is big and loud, gets going only after 8-9 pm (like DV or Magnum), room pricing is the same as everywhere, looks are ok (better than DV or Magnum for example), average service level is tricky (like many other clubs), romies % is currently too high as almost everywhere, theke tries to scam you if you are a noob.
There are better clubs but also worse.
It has a big plus : I am one of the cheap guys that gets in for free (15 e drinks only), so no reason not to show up now and then.
Had a couple of rooms recently with ex LR slovak Edita there, she still knows how to make a man happy.
[QUOTE=Dutedrac;1958780]But please, especially hessen guys, don't be ridicuolous pretending to have an opinion before having actually visited the club.
There are better clubs but also worse.
[/QUOTE]I can only agree with this.
[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1958790]I can only agree with this.[/QUOTE]So how often did you have to go to do 8 sessions? How often did you leave unfucked?
HB.
Most recently, I visited 5(June, July, and Sept) times this year and sessioned 7 girls. Max 2 girls on a visit. None, unfucked.
Before that, awhile back, I visited about 3 (or 2) times. Forget(been awhile). Probably left once or twice unfucked back then.
That's total of about 8 visits since the place opened, but the past 3 visits really shouldn't count since it's been awhile. The recent 5 visits should matter since it's most up to date.
Lots of Oceans girls change dress or clothes 3+ times per night. So the chances are high that you will see them all close to nude at least once per night in the lounge also.
Never had anyone try to ask more than 50/30 min. Maybe FF was just very unlucky. Not sure how many girls I have gone with there now perhaps about 12-14. And more fresh looking girls than at most other clubs that either have too many tattoos, too many girls with eating disorders or too old girls. All in all it seems to me that a majority of the top 20 ish Oceans girls are very healthy. Maybe also because lots of them party and dance from time to time. Or goes to the gym. Or the walking in high heels, which doesn't hurt them as lots of them are petite anyway. Hope it stays that way. It is heaven if you like short girls at least. Most are below 165. And a few 165-170. Not many tall girls though.
Why so fixated with this club? If you like smaller Romies, they are around in other places as well. One girl I think you'd be into is Mickey who I met at PHG, and was at LR for a short stint. Petite pole dancer with rock hard abs. Probably at YY now.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;1958549]Jaqueline ex Miky PHG ex Marga / Margo Samya, left. [/QUOTE]There are plenty are other places like Samya, YY, Mondial, LR, etc. I think you'd have most luck in those places to find your types other than Oceans.
I got a thing for girls minimum 170 height if more of those types are around that fits what I look for.
[QUOTE=Craiova;1958673]I have same opinion mix of clothes looks stupid.
Ups like entrance fee mix at Oceans the girls there are free to make her own price? Why she did want 70 and final 60 Euro?
Thanks for your report confirms me don't go to Oceans.[/QUOTE]If you are in DUS for work and have a free night then you could check out this place just for curiosity. Otherwise skip it, nothing there that you won't find at other clubs and no need to drive there all the way from Hessen.
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Never had anyone try to ask more than 50/30 min. Maybe FF was just very unlucky. [/QUOTE]It was during my first visit in July when these money grabbing w-hores fried to trick me first time. Now Timea told me 1 h with her wil cost 140 Euro. She has nice boobs and body but still that price is just not justified. She obviously tried to rip me off. Inside the room she tried to offer all extra packages which I declined.
[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1958933]Why so fixated with this club? If you like smaller Romies, they are around in other places as well. One girl I think you'd be into is Mickey who I met at PHG, and was at LR for a short stint. Petite pole dancer with rock hard abs. Probably at YY now.[/QUOTE]LOL at the rock hard abs. I absolutely do not have a kink on that. Haha. I just feel this club gets way way under reported considering its great (and rather large) lineup. Personally I find many of the girls at Oceans to be much more friendly than at some other clubs as well.
[QUOTE=FinnishFucker;1959278]It was during my first visit in July when these money grabbing w-hores fried to trick me first time. Now Timea told me 1 h with her wil cost 140 Euro. She has nice boobs and body but still that price is just not justified. She obviously tried to rip me off. Inside the room she tried to offer all extra packages which I declined.[/QUOTE]Does Timea have red hair down to her shoulders with tattoo on her backside? Tall? I'm aware of three ex-Aca girls and this girl is one of them along with Lucy. I know this girl had a nice set of tits.
Although not a fav club in the region or one that is on top of my list to visit. I went through what I dislike about the club. Definately not a club I've experience any upselling price scamming behavior in room or outside the room.
Also, you got to consider that you are limited picks considering tits are high on the priority lists. Lucy and Luana(LR) are not reputed for services.
To put into perspective, this club is still better than any other clubs in Hessen or Artemis in regards to price ripoffs or upsells. Finding good services is tricky however.
[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1959307]Does Timea have red hair down to her shoulders with tattoo on her backside? Tall? I'm aware of three ex-Aca girls and this girl is one of them along with Lucy. I know this girl had a nice set of tits.
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She had long curly dark hair on Friday night. I don't remember any tattoos. Besides it was so damn dark in the club and inside the room that I could barely see her big tits, heh.
[QUOTE=Pistons;1958925]And more fresh looking girls than at most other clubs that either have too many tatoos, too many girls with eating disorders or too old girls.[/QUOTE]The tube dresses seasoned the lineup on Friday night but underneath hatched out the same romanian hookers than in all other big German sauna clubs. Ocean girls are just the same as all the rest, not the worst and not the best.
Nothing personal against the fans of Oceans but I just don't like this club. It somehow reminds me of Magnum which was a crap place for me.
[QUOTE=FinnishFucker;1959712]It somehow reminds me of Magnum which was a crap place for me.[/QUOTE]I think you just lost all credibility now. Saying Oceans reminds you of Magnum is like saying a crab looks like a giraffe. Yes, both are warm blooded animals (both have mostly Romanian girls), and both species live on planet earth, but that is about where the comparison stops. Oceans facilities are best described as something like a mix of Sharks and Artemis.
[QUOTE=Pistons;1959808]I think you just lost all credibility now. Saying Oceans reminds you of Magnum is like saying a crab looks like a giraff. Yes, both are warm blooded animals (both have mostly romanian girls), and both species live on planet earth, but that is about where the comparison stops. Oceans facilities are best described as something like a mix of Sharks and Artemis.[/QUOTE]Crabs are not warm-blooded. Crabs are ectothermic, or cold-blooded, and thus are dependent on the temperature of their immediate environment to regulate their body temperature.
[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;1959814]Crabs are not warm-blooded. Crabs are ectothermic, or cold-blooded, and thus are dependent on the temperature of their immediate environment to regulate their body temperature.[/QUOTE]OMG, are you saying Oceans are even less like Magnum? OK then, if you insist.
[QUOTE=FinnishFucker;1959712]She had long curly dark hair on Friday night. I don't remember any tattoos. Besides it was so damn dark in the club and inside the room that I could barely see her big tits, heh.
The tube dresses seasoned the lineup on Friday night but underneath hatched out the same romanian hookers than in all other big German sauna clubs. Ocean girls are just the same as all the rest, not the worst and not the best.
Nothing personal against the fans of Oceans but I just don't like this club. It somehow reminds me of Magnum which was a crap place for me.[/QUOTE]Just one comment "it was so damn dark in the club and inside the room" that is why I don t like this kind of club, including Shark, too dark for me to really see the skin. Of the girls no reasons for me to spend the money I like to see the body of the girls in details give also a good indication of their health status.
[QUOTE=Pistons;1959808]I think you just lost all credibility now. Saying Oceans reminds you of Magnum is like saying a crab looks like a giraff. Yes, both are warm blooded animals (both have mostly romanian girls), and both species live on planet earth, but that is about where the comparison stops. Oceans facilities are best described as something like a mix of Sharks and Artemis.[/QUOTE]Credibility, what the hell, did I have some?
Oceans facilities are good since the club is new. I never said they were bad. I was referring to the same shitty atmosphere that I met at Magnum. It begins when you meet those morons working at the reception. And then you enter the club and don't actually like the lineup and the vibe. Awesome, isn't it?
[QUOTE=FinnishFucker;1959878]Oceans facilities are surely good since the club is new. I don't need any credibility other than my credit card. I was referring to the same shitty atmosphere than I met at Magnum. It begins when you meet those morons working at the reception. And then you have a club full of turks. Awesome, isn't it?[/QUOTE]The problem is not at all that the people are Turkish or not, most of them are as clean as we are and are nice body build, no for me their main target to go to the FKK is more to spend a lot of time drinking with friends, playing with the girls. Many times a saw a group of men with several nice girls just drinking etc. Very few sessions and I am also thinking that the girls are earning a lot with them without having to sex.
[QUOTE=Dutedrac;1958780]But please, especially hessen guys, don't be ridicuolous pretending to have an opinion before having actually visited the club.
The club is big and loud, gets going only after 8-9 pm (like DV or Magnum), room pricing is the same as everywhere, looks are ok (better than DV or Magnum for example), average service level is tricky (like many other clubs), romies % is currently too high as almost everywhere, theke tries to scam you if you are a noob.
There are better clubs but also worse.
It has a big plus : I am one of the cheap guys that gets in for free (15 e drinks only), so no reason not to show up now and then.
Had a couple of rooms recently with ex LR slovak Edita there, she still knows how to make a man happy.[/QUOTE]At the moment, NRW with LR and GT, is higher than Hessen for me after visiting, with Sharks falling. World improve a bit.
Edita. Svk is a great GFE, with beautiful face and smile. High sexual level when she was at LR.
'Ok' LOL. Each to their own.
[QUOTE=ExpatLover;1959868]Just one comment "it was so damn dark in the club and inside the room" that is why I don t like this kind of club, including Shark, too dark for me to really see the skin.[/QUOTE]LR, GT and Oase are good daytime clubs due to windows and daylight where the girls sit. So you'll see skin of the girls well. In the evenings all of the clubs are dark like nightclubs.
FF I agree that Oceans one of the darkest out there, but comparatively, it's on the level of Oase kino / lounge or slightly better. I really notice the dark club, but Sharks I consider it a bit dim, but not that dark. Artemis lounge is dark as well.
GT and LR had the windows that lets the daylight in. You can see all the flaws of girls. Since Oceans is shaped like a humongous air-duct, the light source is further down past the sauna area (the outside).
But, you are right, many clubs do dim the light in the evening.
There is an advantage in the dark with the girl wearing quite a bit of makeup and all which I do notice at Oceans. More so with night time attenders.
[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1960066]FF I agree that Oceans one of the darkest out there, but comparatively, it's on the level of Oase kino / lounge or slightly better. I really notice the dark club, but Sharks I consider it a bit dim, but not that dark. Artemis lounge is dark as well.
GT and LR had the windows that lets the daylight in. You can see all the flaws of girls. Since Oceans is shaped like a humongous air-duct, the light source is further down past the sauna area (the outside).
But, you are right, many clubs do dim the light in the evening.
There is an advantage in the dark with the girl wearing quite a bit of makeup and all which I do notice at Oceans. More so with night time attenders.[/QUOTE]True, Oase kino / lounge area is a dark dungeon. The jacuzzi area there has daylight, I wrote unclearly earlier.
Daylight reveals all the flaws. It is equally cruel to the girls and to the punters.
Personally I prefer that dim to dark kind of light as opposed to the GT lighting and daytime Oase lighting (at the jacuzzi area). It made GT seem like a retirement home to me. Deffinately not the right mood I was looking for. At Oase it somehow works, bit it is a different club with a totally different ambience... Sharks has more of a fluoresent light. I think Oceans is trying to do the same, but they are a bit low on light sources perhaps.
Does anybody have any input to which night would be the best to see the top girls here? I am definitely making a trip there this week, debating if I should go Thursday or Friday night. Any input would help. Thanks.
[QUOTE=SevenIron;1960126]Does anybody have any input to which night would be the best to see the top girls here? I am definitely making a trip there this week, debating if I should go Thursday or Friday night. Any input would help. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Fridays has more of a party factor with more dancing on stage / on bar and maybe 80 girls. Thursdays have more of a relaxed atmosphere and maybe 60 girls. I feel the top girls are there both days, but that is my personal view. Maybe with you, you prefer some of those who shows up on Friday. More guys on a Friday too.
[QUOTE=SevenIron;1960126]Does anybody have any input to which night would be the best to see the top girls here? I am definitely making a trip there this week, debating if I should go Thursday or Friday night. Any input would help. Thanks.[/QUOTE]When he says more guys, it's an understatement. If the club really gets going at 9-10 pm on Fri like both FF and Dute says(can't pinpoint exactly when I noticed the club gets going, but 10pm is commonly mentioned), that's a short window until the very unfavorable ratio build up into a sausagefest. That's what I've experienced, and seems like FF experienced that as well.
Like I've said Magnum Dejavu. Different girls, different clubs like Pistons says crabs don't look like giraffs. LOL.
Here is the Dejavu aspects I've said several times:
1. Both clubs gets going 9-10ish
2. Mainly local Turks that shows Turk club hrs.
3. Opens til 7am on weekends.
4. A la Carte, but Oceans a bit complex. Last time Magnum didn't seem to have A la Carte, the chef was a VV.
5. Music loudness level.
When I was at Magnum it didn't get going before 23.00. Oceans normally gets going at around 20.00 in my experience. And slowly starts at 19.00. With the 13.00 opening it is also less quiet during the day. How you make a la carte (oceans) be simillair to the magnum (non a la carte) seems odd. Crabs and giraffs again. At magnum I was the only non turk. Some days at Oceans maybe just 30-40% are turks. While other days it can be more like 70%. Not everyone is racist in this world though... turks and non turks alike... yes there are about twice as many guys on a friday as compared to a thursday. But not more guys at oceans than at artemis or sharks... normally less even in weekends, or the same amount. Music is up and down depending on the mood of the dj at oceans. While at magnum one of the lounges was constantly at 100db... so unbearable to stay in. Magnum does have other rooms to flee into though...
I am here now. Biggest joke for a club in Germany so far for me. Walk in from hotel with huge line behind me. I put 50 e down on counter. Lady says a bunch of German I don't understand. I state I have been here. She counters with 65 e for you. I hear laughter amongst the local Turks behind me. I know this is worng but pay because this was tonight's plan and hotel is down the road. I argue with them and they say you took a taxi. LOL. I walked here. I tell them this is a joke and give me 15 e back. They say your not from dussledorf its 65. I tell them give me something for credit and I am not taking no for an answer. I worked two red bull vodkas from them. What a joke. First girl I talk to, I ask how much is standard. She says girls pretty much facbricate their own prices from thin air. Am I in a German FKK anymore? Next girl I talk to I say I will do a room in 30 min feom now. She counters with. Now or never. LOL. Next up is half the people are dressed in clothes and look f ing ridiculous. Now I am seeing girls in street clothes and don't know if they are working or not. Maybe there cheaper like on the real streets. I spent the afternoon in the legit GT and this place is just a joke in comparison. Just waiting till I leave amd they add like 500 e to my bill for who knows what. Top it all off and there is not one special girl that I haven't seen I'm 10 other clubs in the area this week.
I should have firgured when an international thread turns into one mans blog something muat be fishy about thw situation.
[QUOTE=SevenIron;1961228]I should have firgured when an international thread turns into one mans blog something muat be fishy about thw situation.[/QUOTE]LMAO.
Sorry to hear about the rough time at Oceans. Thanks for the non-shill review.
The management is BS.
If anybody happens to check this club out, a tip to reduce the odds of running into BS (YMMV sorry to say).
Main thing is don't ask about pricing.
Read and understand how the pricing works on the website. Don't ask the desk about entry pricing, just tell them what you are going to pay (30,50,65). We understand the front desk is fucking with tourists. By asking, makes you come off clueless, and decreases you odds of getting the lower pricing (I know, it's bullshit practices. We shouldn't have to deal with this shit.).
When I walked in couple times, I just told them I'm paying 30, that's it (no questions). One time I successfully entered with a frei card, a lady tried to make me pay 50 as I was returning my band. I've entered with a frei card twice successfully.
I never asked about pricing or negotiated pricing with a girl before room. I paid all the girls I've been with the standard 50 rate like I've done at all other places. Another instance of, if you don't look or act like majority of the clientel types there (Turkish), the girl will have an idea, and perhaps think you maybe a clueless tourist when you ask about pricing.
I just play my cards in this manner to reduce running into any BS. If this seem too much BS, opt for other clubs in the area that don't pull this ghetto ass shit.
[QUOTE=SevenIron;1961228] Just waiting till I leave amd they add like 500 e to my bill for who knows what. Top it all off and there is not one special girl that I haven't seen I'm 10 other clubs in the area this week.
I should have firgured when an international thread turns into one mans blog something muat be fishy about thw situation.[/QUOTE]You talked to 10 gals 50 e each hence the 500 e bill, LOL. Suppose you had to fight yr way out of the club, hehe.
Guess I should pass this club that's ripping of tourists.
[QUOTE=SevenIron;1961228]I should have firgured when an international thread turns into one mans blog something muat be fishy about thw situation.[/QUOTE]Ok, that was an hilarious read. Made me giggle a bit. ;)
But either you are not very good at mingling, or you did something wrong. Me as for PL, I've gotten in the last 5 times at the club with frei entritt, or 15e before 15.00. And I don't look turkish at all... Clothes policy should have been clear already though.
Decided to try out Oceans after witnessing the horrible LU at Aca Gold.
The 30/50 Euro entry pricing sign was up by reception being visible. Got in before 3 pm for the frei entry, and got in on the frei entry.
Brunch was available. Nothing special. Not a whole lot provided (can't complain too much since I'm required to pay 15 Euros of the peudo frei entry). Grilled squash, vegitables, tomatos and cheese, burger, french fries, ravioli pasta with tuna mixed. Nutella and few other spreads and white bread.
Place was quite empty up to about 5 pm. About 10+ girls around til toward 5 pm. Few additional girls showed 5 pm. 7 pm was when more customers were coming in. Also, more girls showed up by 7 pm to about 30 girls.
For such a small LU early hrs, there were a few lookers. And by 7 pm, LU looked pretty good. LU was good for such a small LU. All ro. The top lookers are slim to very slim young 20 ish Romies.
Elony is def a top looker. Her body is slim, tight. Hardly fat on her. Typical Ro body, but very fit and tight. 3 other great looking blond slims. All were pretty faced. They are not what I consider models due to their heights, but good slim bods with pretty faces. Total packages. Quite a few srand-out lookers. I would say optically superior to LR minus Luana. Probably a top LU for such a small count.
Helena petite blond, blue eyes, tattoos forearm, ro with a really natural looking sister who was quite pretty.
Narches, long black hair, hot facials ro, was wearing a black fishnet lingerie, and turned out to be a bit thick at the bottom than slim overall. Session was ok, nothing special like majority of sessions I've had there.
Elony, probably the pretties one theren, long blond curls, tattoos on chest. Hot. Face is hot, body is tight. Service was pretty standard. Nothing special.
No Daisy Bul, who is a service star and good looker was actually from Vien FunPalast for short duration. Girls are searching for the right business. LOL
Since the day was slow and not overy crowded like late weekend night, I got to the ones I may not see on a real busy night.
Interestingly, a Mon LU of such small quantity had such quality of optiks is alarming. Keep in mind that girls do a lot of make up, so thei facials are enhanced than other clubs. But, no denying that there were some nice slim bods.
All ro, with perhaps a odd overweight Czech girl there.
LU def better than my last visits. Curious how much better it can get on a night with more girls.
I like LR for services and friendliness of girls. Girls attitude at Oceans do not compare to LR. Not a good sign when girls tell ya at Oceans where they worked. Like Spain for example. For perspective, Luana a opti at LR provides better services than the two I went with.
So, if your primary focus is optiks, and service is less important, I'd recommend. Optically, LU is good from what I've seen on this visit.
About upselling. Not upselling with the two girls, 50 standard sessions. But, I have heard from a unlucky fellow that looks like a tourist that girls tried upselling on him.
[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1967849]So, if your primary focus is optiks, and service is less important, I'd recommend. [/QUOTE]Can we assume Pistons is not a service oriented monger?
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;1967938]Can we assume Pistons is not a service oriented monger?[/QUOTE]But he enjoys Mandy at Sharks, who is known for her services level, even I never tried her, only because not attracted. Girls behave from how you make them behave with your manners.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;1967938]Can we assume Pistons is not a service oriented monger?[/QUOTE]No, you can't. It is a mix of optics and service. Ymmv maybe... I know Eleny and she is quite good in the room with me, and lots of energy. As you say, she is in great shape, so can be very energetic. Nice personality also. Improves perhaps on subsequent sessions... like a few other girls there also.
About their names. I think Elony is Eleny, and Helena is Elena. Names can confuse, but at Oceans just a single letter in their name can mean it is a different girl.
[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1967849]Not a good sign when girls tell ya at Oceans where they worked. Like Spain for example. [/QUOTE]
Why is that not a good sign? And at which club doesnt the girls tell you where they used to work?
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From the girls you mention in that report only Eleny is at my top 10 at Oceans. I don't know this Narches girl though... So saying that was a great lineup compared to LR doesnt leave LR in much of a good light... but I guess we might have different preferences also...
From a buddy that arrived later at night after I took off around 7 ish, there were additional girls arriving after I left. I recommend sticking around past 7 to see a fuller LU. Mon seems to be a good day for more relaxed atmosphere and many girls availability. Fri Sat late night avoid if looking for a reasonable ratio.
I will not say Mon is generally a good day to visit as I have not visited enough Mon, but seems a good day based on this visit.
IMO, the club is in the same catagory as Paradise Stuttgart (or to less degree Palace and perhaps Artemis, but the difference from Art and Palace is more more natural looks and youngest avg age, most Romies) in quality of optiks (mainly Romies) with perhaps some odd Germans may show.
The catagory fit with Palace, Artemis, and Paradise is interaction with the girls and attitdes can be better. For those frequent the mentioned clubs, Oceans could be what fits your preference at the NRW. Keep in mind the club get's going around 6-7ish and more girls to come. Artemis probably has more quantity of daytime LU, and more activity during daytime.
Perhaps my past visits late nights couldn't see much of the LU due to many girls in rooms, or bad days to visit and LU has gotten a bit better.
Dear PL,
I was there on 01.12. 2016 Thursday due to your advice. Number of girls was only one third of no of men there. Real sausage festival. Mainly turkish customers. Food was like Oase style. Once free and others are paid. At about 10 pm they started to play a very loud music. The sound level inside wasnt less than 100 dBA. I didn't take even one girl and I am sure if I did it will be a disaster session. I saw Janina who is claiming that she is an ex Artemis. I asked her because I feel that I saw her before. Kino is small and dead. Lounge is too large. If they can fill this area with nice girls it would be nice to be there but no. I think the management there should do another business and leave this nice facility to someone from a real FKK administration. I left there to go Living room at about 11 pm and it was a very true decision. I will give details in LR section.
Regards.
[QUOTE=Iceberg27;1970513]Dear PL,
I was there on 01.12. 2016 Thursday due to your advice. Number of girls was only one third of no of men there. Real sausage festival. Mainly turkish customers. Food was like Oase style. Once free and others are paid. At about 10 pm they started to play a very loud music. The sound level inside wasnt less than 100 dBA. I didn't take even one girl and I am sure if I did it will be a disaster session. I saw Janina who is claiming that she is an ex Artemis. I asked her because I feel that I saw her before. Kino is small and dead. Lounge is too large. If they can fill this area with nice girls it would be nice to be there but no. I think the management there should do another business and leave this nice facility to someone from a real FKK administration. I left there to go Living room at about 11 pm and it was a very true decision. I will give details in LR section.
Regards.[/QUOTE]Fully agree with you tried this club 3 times and it is not my cup of tea, no interest for me to drive from Frankfurt area to here, ratio woman to man is a disaster.
I went there last night and the lineup had fallen quite a bit now. But one of the girls claimed it was due to alot of girls having left on Christmas vacation. I guess we won't know before in a month at least who returns. Almost as many girls as before though, just with less lookers. It seemed like they were drawing in lots of replacements from Magnum.
[QUOTE=Pistons;1972304]I went there last night and the lineup had fallen quite a bit now. But one of the girls claimed it was due to alot of girls having left on Christmas vacation. I guess we won't know before in a month at least who returns. Almost as many girls as before though, just with less lookers. It seemed like they were drawing in lots of replacements from Magnum.[/QUOTE]I don't believe that argument is true, for most of the Romanian parents theirs daughters are working in a restaurant in Germany so why leaving so early to go home knowing that it takes 2 hours plane.
Girls some of you may recognize that at some point worked at Magnum:
Aureilia (Sharks previously).
Luana (LR currently).
Steffi (Sharks currently).
Meike (GT).
Lori (Oase currently).
Dea (ex-Aca).
And others.
So, girls try out the club.
[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1972441]Girls some of you may recognize that at some point worked at Magnum:
Aureilia (Sharks previously)...[/QUOTE]Aurelia started and suffered in her body and vagina at Magnum, but now she is quite busy at top Globe. Good luck pretty Aurelia. She was so pretty with her pony tail, on first time I saw her at Samya, just coming back from room with Valentina.
[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1972441]
So, girls try out the club.[/QUOTE]Lots of girls try out most clubs it seems. That list can probably be doubled though, and I heard more Magnum girls were moving over also. But time will tell.
[QUOTE=ExpatLover;1972405]I don't believe that argument is true, for most of the Romanian parents theirs daughters are working in a restaurant in Germany so why leaving so early to go home knowing that it takes 2 hours plane.[/QUOTE]You really don't believe these romanians are able to make an excuse in order to extend their Christmas vacation by a few weeks when they make excuses for a million other things? LOL. That's a pretty rude intellectual assumption right there... a few of these girls are actually quite smart...
Flyer for free entry at Oceans for Sylvester Party, the 31st. Probably minimum 15 Euros spent eventhough they say free, and ring up anything consumed on the wristband. I'm imagining a major Turkish sausagefest with not much buns to go with it. Perhaps, if word gets around, reduce other club's bad ratios. Opposite of what some clubs do, charging greater amount than the usual.
[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1980072]Flyer for free entry at Oceans for Sylvester Party, the 31st. Perhaps, if word gets around, reduce other club's bad ratios.[/QUOTE]Perhaps, if word gets around, Germans can than celebrate Sylvester Party at Cologne Cathedral Square.
Free entry at Sylvester together with all this free entry vouchers for Oceans during the last year, first time there is an internet market (ebay Kleinanzeigen) for FKK club free entry vouchers LOL, most girls make their own price, only ridiculous, this club is a 100 % NoGo for me.
[QUOTE=Craiova;1980121]for FKK club free entry vouchers LOL, most girls make their own price, only ridiculous, this club is a 100 % NoGo for me.[/QUOTE]Don't lie. From 15 ish girls none has made their own price to me. Have you even been there, or just gulp up what you think?
As far as I can tell it beats the other nrw clubs. Especially among those I have been to and what I hear about the rest (just aca and maybe samya and LR I want to check out) There are pros and cons with all clubs. Now lets see the what 2017 brings with the lineup. 2016 had lots of highlights at Oceans.
[QUOTE=Pistons;1980582]
As far as I can tell it beats the other nrw clubs. Especially among those I have been to and what I hear about the rest (just aca and maybe samya and LR I want to check out) There are pros and cons with all clubs. Now lets see the what 2017 brings with the lineup. 2016 had lots of highlights at Oceans.[/QUOTE]I've only been to Samya, LR, Magnum and Oceans in NRW. So I appreciate there are others, the two Aca clubs etc but from the 4 I've been to Oceans is streets ahead of the others on facilities. LU has been good on the occasions I've been there though probably similar to Samya. Shame the pricing structure in Samya fell apart (50/25). But as with other areas, the "best" club changes as girls move. Oase was tops in FRA but then it was Sharks and at one time I believe World. Oceans is certainly worth visiting based on my trips there.
[QUOTE=Pistons;1980582]Don't lie. From 15 ish girls none has made their own price to me. Have you even been there, or just gulp up what you think?
As far as I can tell it beats the other nrw clubs. Especially among those I have been to and what I hear about the rest (just aca and maybe samya and LR I want to check out) There are pros and cons with all clubs. Now lets see the what 2017 brings with the lineup. 2016 had lots of highlights at Oceans.[/QUOTE]I have not run into it either and been with number of girls close to that amount. I have not run into upselling and my stats are pretty consistant with other clubs in the NRW when it comes to that.
Beats other clubs in what? Service? No. The services are comparable to DV, which is the lowest of the NRW. Possible, you'd run into high service stars on luck, but luck is rather low at Oceans.
FF reported 70 Euros by a girl. I'm wondering if she came from Andiamo or Wellcum where that is the standard pricing. You did say there were girls thst came from outside De, Austria.
If desk is not reliable about entry rate, girls rate is 50/30 mn and same extra rates than in Hessen: CIM for 50 , versus CIM for 25 at GT or LR.
[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1980742]I have not run into it either and been with number of girls close to that amount. I have not run into upselling and my stats are pretty consistant with other clubs in the NRW when it comes to that.
Beats other clubs in what? Service? No. The services are comparable to DV, which is the lowest of the NRW. Possible, you'd run into high service stars on luck, but luck is rather low at Oceans.
FF reported 70 Euros by a girl. I'm wondering if she came from Andiamo or Wellcum where that is the standard pricing. You did say there were girls thst came from outside De, Austria.[/QUOTE]Well it clealry is ahead on ambience, showers, sauna, stage for dancing and rooms. I've had a great streak of girls myself at oceans this year, but I can see it being different from person to person. My luck was not so good at GT where it seems you are having higher service. The service I get at Oceans is generally good. Met some kissers for sure. Although two of the heaviest kissers seemed to move on after just a few weeks. But you can sense it with chemistry also which girl kisses the most. Then again kissing is rarely a black and white thing. It is normally grey. When it comes to sex quite a few of the girls I have met here are quite acrobatic and energetic. And some are even on the passionate side. It is good to have variation in a club. Not every day I feel like seeping for air theough a kissing session that can feel more like an 800m crawl race than sex either. But some days yes, and it is nice to have it available. Not every day I want the same for dinner also.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;1980755]If desk is not reliable about entry rate[/QUOTE]I ran into frei entry bullshit 1 out of 3 attempts (2 were used with cards, 1 happy HR special). 2 others were 30 Euros entry which I was not denied. Last time I paid 15 Euros out the door free entry.
McA I believe mentioned a brunette chubby receptionist. When I was leaving and got told to pay 50 instead of 15, she fit that description. That made me furious! So, it maybe receptionist specific.
As long as they have 15 Euros or Frei entry, 30 Euros option, really, it's not all that bad in terms of being able stop by to check out with minimal loss on entry. The optiks of girls sets it apart in a way depending on particular visit. But,(at least for me as of yet), no upsells. So, considering all this, worth a shot.
Of course with 15 Euro Free entry or 30 Euros, you will be itemized on stuff, but I like the flexibility it brings for a stop-by.
With the free early hr entry for those don't mind a rather empty with few girls, meals are provided and not mind hanging around with those girls with free wifi. It's an option.
[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1981499]I ran into frei entry bullshit 1 out of 3 attempts (2 were used with cards, 1 happy HR special). 2 others were 30 Euros entry which I was not denied. Last time I paid 15 Euros out the door free entry.
McA I believe mentioned a brunette chubby receptionist. When I was leaving and got told to pay 50 instead of 15, she fit that description. That made me furious! So, it maybe receptionist specific.
As long as they have 15 Euros or Frei entry, 30 Euros option, really, it's not all that bad in terms of being able stop by to check out with minimal loss on entry. The optiks of girls sets it apart in a way depending on particular visit. But,(at least for me as of yet), no upsells. So, considering all this, worth a shot.
Of course with 15 Euro Free entry or 30 Euros, you will be itemized on stuff, but I like the flexibility it brings for a stop-by.
With the free early hr entry for those don't mind a rather empty with few girls, meals are provided and not mind hanging around with those girls with free wifi. It's an option.[/QUOTE]I've been to Globe 10 times for last 6 months, paying more than 100 € for entry on each time, so my problem is not to pay an entry rate, but to be fucked because I'm a foreigner. I will never accept free entry is written on desk, but they say to me it's only for locals. But no problem, I have too many girls to enjoy at the moment, at LR, Kate, 4 at History, Isabella when she will be back at Globe and I have to think about for other Kate, so I don't miss Oceans at the moment. I also prefer rooms with good light, like at LR.
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McA I believe mentioned a brunette chubby receptionist. When I was leaving and got told to pay 50 instead of 15, she fit that description. That made me furious! So, it maybe receptionist specific.
[/QUOTE]Chubby, Romanian, with glasses to be precise. Don't know if she is still there since I am not that regular at Oceans. On that particular Saturday night in April 2015, she explained that I could use my free entry card, but needed to spend at least 50 EUR. For clarification, I said "Five" "Zero". She nodded. The three or four other times I used my free entry card, I only had to spend 15 EUR.
[QUOTE=McAdonis;1984037]Chubby, Romanian, with glasses to be precise. Don't know if she is still there since I am not that regular at Oceans. On that particular Saturday night in April 2015, she explained that I could use my free entry card, but needed to spend at least 50 EUR. For clarification, I said "Five" "Zero". She nodded. The three or four other times I used my free entry card, I only had to spend 15 EUR.[/QUOTE]Did she use to work at Artemis? Fifty or fifteen, hmm?
[QUOTE=Vodenjak1978;1252241]Hello!
Today I watched a video from a croatian tv statiton about Artemis. You can watch it on the link.
[url]http://dnevnik.hr/showbizz/red-carpet/zavirite-u-bordel-u-kojem-se-radi-u-smjenama-i-na-popust.html[/url]
But the entrance lady doesn't know "proper english" so the entry price was translated to 18 and half hour with the girl 16. I wish that was true then I would have enough money to go to Germany and enjoy your favorite pass time.[/QUOTE]
This forum sucks for anything non hessen. People need to get around more in general!
And I won't change my take on this entry practice. If you are street smart enough, you'll get around it. Or just complain to the manager once inside. He is a reasonable and accomodating guy... if enough people do that the receptionist doing this will have to stop it...
[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1970483]From a buddy that arrived later at night after I took off around 7 ish, there were additional girls arriving after I left. I recommend sticking around past 7 to see a fuller LU. Mon seems to be a good day for more relaxed atmosphere and many girls availability. Fri Sat late night avoid if looking for a reasonable ratio.
I will not say Mon is generally a good day to visit as I have not visited enough Mon, but seems a good day based on this visit.
IMO, the club is in the same catagory as Paradise Stuttgart (or to less degree Palace and perhaps Artemis, but the difference from Art and Palace is more more natural looks and youngest avg age, most Romies) in quality of optiks (mainly Romies) with perhaps some odd Germans may show.
The catagory fit with Palace, Artemis, and Paradise is interaction with the girls and attitdes can be better. For those frequent the mentioned clubs, Oceans could be what fits your preference at the NRW. Keep in mind the club get's going around 6-7ish and more girls to come. Artemis probably has more quantity of daytime LU, and more activity during daytime.
Perhaps my past visits late nights couldn't see much of the LU due to many girls in rooms, or bad days to visit and LU has gotten a bit better.[/QUOTE]OK guys, I just booked flight to NRW finally. Been to Artemis for years, few times Hessen clubs.
So at FKK oceans,. How are the line up in terms of optics? Do you find some stunners here at FKK oceans?
I understood about more natural girls, but I used to find those in Artemis, you know younger natural German stunners, but now they are gone at Artemis, so I am hoping to find such stunners at FKK oceans, are there such stunners at FKK Oceans?
[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1960066]FF I agree that Oceans one of the darkest out there, but comparatively, it's on the level of Oase kino / lounge or slightly better. I really notice the dark club, but Sharks I consider it a bit dim, but not that dark. Artemis lounge is dark as well.
GT and LR had the windows that lets the daylight in. You can see all the flaws of girls. Since Oceans is shaped like a humongous air-duct, the light source is further down past the sauna area (the outside).
But, you are right, many clubs do dim the light in the evening.
There is an advantage in the dark with the girl wearing quite a bit of makeup and all which I do notice at Oceans. More so with night time attenders.[/QUOTE]OK, at Artemis stay at stairs with full light to see girls, at Oase, stay downstairs at restaurant space where light is blight by girls changing rooms where girls comes out.
Now at FKK oceans, are there any good place to stay to see the girls in full light? Where are the changing room at FKK oceans and lighting there?
[QUOTE=MrHo;1986572]OK, at Artemis stay at stairs with full light to see girls, at Oase, stay downstairs at restaurant space where light is blight by girls changing rooms where girls comes out.
Now at FKK oceans, are there any good place to stay to see the girls in full light? Where are the changing room at FKK oceans and lighting there?[/QUOTE]The Ambiance at Oceans is quite good, so the girls get presented really well at this club. There are no good place like the Artemis stairs for bright light. Maybe at the love-bike, but that's in the back, so at the other side of the lounge. So not good for seeing girls when they arrive. Optionally you could stay at the reception, but they won't like it if you hang out there all night as it can get crowded there when people want room keys. It is better just to sit in a couch near the entrance or at the bar. Look at the website though. Much better than asking here. And lineup last year was really strong, but girls move around a lot in nrw, so who knows about this year right? Facilities are very new and the newest ones in nrw at least. The girls have a lower average age here than at any of the top Hessen clubs. Maybe just 22 or 23 years average. Not many Germans here. I've only seen 2 (that was last month) so they might still be there... 80% Romanians (although some of these may be Turkish, lowering that room number) and some Bulgarians plus randoms from elsewhere.
[QUOTE=Pistons;1986833]The Ambience at Oceans is quite good, so the girls get presented really well at this club. There are no good place like the Artemis stairs for bright light. Maybe at the love-bike, but that's in the back, so at the other side of the lounge. So not good for seeing girls when they arrive. Optionally you could stay at the reception, but they won't like it if you hang out there all night as it can get crowded there when people want room keys. It is better just to sit in a couch near the entrance or at the bar. Look at the website though. Much better than asking here. And lineup last year was really strong, but girls move around alot in nrw, so who knows about this year right? Facilities are very new and the newest ones in nrw at least. The girls have a lower average age here than at any of the top hessen clubs. Maybe just 22 or 23 years average. Not many germans here. I've only seen 2 (that was last month) so they might still be there... 80% romanians (although some of these may be turkish, lowering that rom number) and some Bulgarians plus randoms from elsewhere...[/QUOTE]Thanks buddy. Where are the girls changing room where girls come out in FKK oceans?
Hmmm Romanians. Turkish can be good if they are half German half Turkish.
[QUOTE=Pistons;1984836]This forum sucks for anything non hessen. People need to get around more in general!
And I won't change my take on this entry practice. If you are street smart enough, you'll get around it. Or just complain to the manager once inside. He is a reasonable and accomodating guy... if enough people do that the receptionist doing this will have to stop it...[/QUOTE]It is funny how taxi companies had so much influence on FKK oceans LOL.
[QUOTE=MrHo;1986889]Thanks buddy. Where are the girls changing room where girls come out in FKK oceans?
Hmmm Romanians. Turkish can be good if they are half German half Turkish.[/QUOTE]Once you pass the reception, the girls changing room is to the right just when you are about to enter the lounge. And it is kind of half walled off from the lounge, but you get a glimpse of them if you sit at the bar in case you try to stare towards the door towards their changing room. While the mens changing room is to the left once you enter the club, so on the opposite side of the reception.
I think the Turkish are more half Romanian, half Turkish. But it doesn't mean it is bad. I do believe PL was quite right earlier this year when he claimed Oceans has the best presentation out there. So girls can look more beautiful than at other clubs. But does it really matter, the presentation stays the same the whole night and in all the rooms too. It does go to show how important presentation can be. But there are still lookers here that would be top girls in every club even though December casting was a bit below where it was the rest of the year. Hoping I was just a bit unlucky there though, and dec is a low season month I believe too.
[QUOTE=Pistons;1987078]Once you pass the reception, the girls changing room is to the right just when you are about to enter the lounge. And it is kind of half walled off from the lounge, but you get a glimpse of them if you sit at the bar in case you try to stare towards the door towards their changing room. While the mens changing room is to the left once you enter the club, so on the opposite side of the reception.
I think the turkish are more half romanian, half turkish. But it doesn't mean it is bad. I do believe PL was quite right earlier this year when he claimed Oceans has the best presentation out there. So girls can look more beautiful than at other clubs. But does it really matter, the presentation stays the same the whole night and in all the rooms too. It does go to show how important presentation can be. But there are still lookers here that would be top girls in every club even though december casting was a bit below where it was the rest of the year... Hoping I was just a bit unlucky there though... and dec is a low season month I believe too...[/QUOTE]Yeah December girls begin to go home. I would imagine now girls begin to come back from holiday and peak line up next week at end of January till mid Feb. When they may spend valentines day with their boyfriend. Am I accurate? LOL.
I always like to look at changing room door where girls come out, so it is good to know you can do that at FKK ocean sitting at the bar?
[QUOTE=MrHo;1987100]I always like to look at changing room door where girls come out, so it is good to know you can do that at FKK ocean sitting at the bar?[/QUOTE]Yes, probably best view from there. If you enjoy the 1 second glimpses. Hehe
[QUOTE=MrHo;1987100]Yeah December girls begin to go home. I would imagine now girls begin to come back from holiday and peak line up next week at end of January till mid Feb. When they may spend valentines day with their boyfriend. Am I accurate? LOL.
I always like to look at changing room door where girls come out, so it is good to know you can do that at FKK ocean sitting at the bar?[/QUOTE]I am not sure that many FKK girls have a boy friends, they will stay to earn as much money as possible until the orthodox eastern.
[QUOTE=Pistons;1987231]Yes, probably best view from there. If you enjoy the 1 second glimpses. Hehe[/QUOTE]In any FKK that is where I fish, fresh as sushi from changing room but I hope lighting is not too dim there, so I can see and not end up with monster close up LOL.
[QUOTE=ExpatLover;1987286]I am not sure that many FKK girls have a boy friends, they will stay to earn as much money as possible until the orthodox eastern.[/QUOTE]That is good to know, but I had few FKK girls on my facebook and they all had boyfriend, they do not look too pimp, but maybe they are, but they seem to have someone they live together well I hope line up is good during first week of February.
[QUOTE=MrHo;1987327]In any FKK that is where I fish, fresh as sushi from changing room but I hope lighting is not too dim there, so I can see and not end up with monster close up LOL.[/QUOTE]Word of advise: Always wear contact lenses at these clubs m8.
The last thing you want to do is to walk over to a girl staring at her only to tell her no. LOL. You'll be labeled as a jerk for a long time. 'Oooh, but I thought you just wanted to look closer at this nice new robe that i got. Not that you wanted me to fuck you'. Followed by a fake smile.
[QUOTE=Pistons;1987472]Word of advise: Allways wear contact lenses at these clubs m8 .
The last thing you want to do is to walk over to a girl staring at her only to tell her no. LOL. You'll be labelled as a jerk for a long time. 'oooh, but I thought you just wanted to look closer at this nice new robe that i got. Not that you wanted me to fuck you'. Followed by a fake smile.[/QUOTE]I am having hard time deciding whether to goto FKK oceans or Living room, which club has more model type line up? Or at least teeny model type.
[QUOTE=MrHo;1987541]I am having hard time deciding whether to goto FKK oceans or Living room, which club has more model type line up? Or at least teeny model type.[/QUOTE]Maybe better to ask someone who has been to LR. LOL.
But my spec of girls are usually (with very few exceptions) the short type below 1.65 at least. So not 'model type'. But at least last year there were many good looking faces and doll figures at Oceans, and I suppose some who prefer taller girls also have their favorites.
[QUOTE=MrHo;1987541]I am having hard time deciding whether to goto FKK oceans or Living room, which club has more model type line up? Or at least teeny model type.[/QUOTE]For me for you can have more luck in Ocean, LV has a nice LU but difficult to find 20 YO girls.
[QUOTE=ExpatLover;1987685]For me for you can have more luck in Ocean, LV has a nice LU but difficult to find 20 YO girls.[/QUOTE]Has the oceans lineup drastically changed lately? I don't recall seeing many 20 year old girls at oceans.
[QUOTE=ExpatLover;1987685]For me for you can have more luck in Ocean, LV has a nice LU but difficult to find 20 YO girls.[/QUOTE]You didn't see about 20 yo girls at LR? So many.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;1987725]Has the oceans lineup drastically changed lately? I don't recall seeing many 20 year old girls at oceans.[/QUOTE]Not many 19-20 yo maybe just one or two that I remember, but at that age hardly any club has any. A lot more 21-24 yo there however. If you haven't seen them you haven't been there much at all.
Andra, Eleny, Lorena, Alina, Malina, Annabell, Corina, Elena, Mery, Isabell, Larissa and now gone Andrea, Celina, Dea and Sierra are all below 25. and thats about 75% of the girls I know by name there who were there last year, girls are probably overrepresented on the list of girls I know there by name, but not by too much.
[QUOTE=Pistons;1987749]Not many 19-20 yo maybe just one or two that I remember, but at that age hardly any club has any... [/QUOTE]I've met some at the NRW at various clubs.
[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1980509]I've had good luck running into the right girls at LR this year. Here is a list:
Gigi, Karina, Daria, Amira, Seda, Lisa (Ro/De), Luana, Beatrice.
[/QUOTE]These girls were 19-21 when first starting out at LR. Jane was 19 from what I recall, and there has been others that is not on that list. So I disagree with Expatlover. I will say though on my last Oceans visit (on a slow day), majority of the girls hanging around during the day were mainly low 20's youngish Romies. Anyway, either clubs you can find plenty of low 20's girls.
Mr Ho, I personally prefer LR over Oceans due to better services. It's not like avg Oceans LU is amazing. LR has the better balance of service and looks.
You will find most Germans at GT. Keep in mind, toward the latter week/weekend you will have best luck of running into Germans there. Partimer Germans can be crapshoot if they show or not though. I have met Germans at Oceans, but 1 or 2 a visit or two, but mainly Romanians like others.
I have not met a Turkish/Romian yet. Either full Turkish or Turk/De.
[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1987767]I've met some at the NRW at various clubs.
These girls were 19-21 when first starting out at LR. Jane was 19 from what I recall, and there has been others that is not on that list. So I disagree with Expatlover. I will say though on my last Oceans visit (on a slow day), majority of the girls hanging around during the day were mainly low 20's youngish Romies. Anyway, either clubs you can find plenty of low 20's girls.
Mr Ho, I personally prefer LR over Oceans due to better services. It's not like avg Oceans LU is amazing. LR has the better balance of service and looks.
You will find most Germans at GT. Keep in mind, toward the latter week/weekend you will have best luck of running into Germans there. Partimer Germans can be crapshoot if they show or not though. I have met Germans at Oceans, but 1 or 2 a visit or two, but mainly Romanians like others.
I have not met a Turkish/Romian yet. Either full Turkish or Turk/De.[/QUOTE]Oh thank you buddy! LR seems like more club I am looking for me as I like girls just starting out!
LR get going at later in afternoon like at 4 PM-ish right?
And I read GT get going from 1 PMor2 PM-ish already.
And GT seems to be the one and only that I am most looking for especially over weekend as I love the German girl (original or immigrated few generations back) the best to session with, so GT seems to be the one and LR seems to be same owner so similar line up.
So due to limitation of dates, I may skip oceans and just concentrate on GT and LR because I do not have good session with Romanians comparison with Germans and I lover Germans as I describe above the best especially when they are new to the FKK scene! Fresh like Sushi is what I love LOL.
[QUOTE=MrHo;1987789]So due to limitation of dates, I may skip oceans and just concentrate on GT and LR because I do not have good session with Romanians comparison with Germans [/QUOTE]LR is all Romanians. Not saying Oceans is better but at least at Oceans you may meet a sexy Albanian Turkish girl. You have almost 1400 posts surely you are aware that 90-95% of FKK girls in Hessen and NRW are Romanians / Bulgarians.
You may want to consider hobbying elsewhere or getting German independent escorts or a place like Termin girls in Ratingen.