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I haven't been to a FKK but would like to go to the ones around Frankfurt before the end of this year. My question is: If you to a room with a woman and she starts to upsell you and you start to get bad vibes about her attitude, can you leave the room without obligation (paying anything)? Thanks.
[QUOTE=Benjoe;1297378]I haven't been to a FKK but would like to go to the ones around Frankfurt before the end of this year. My question is: If you to a room with a woman and she starts to upsell you and you start to get bad vibes about her attitude, can you leave the room without obligation (paying anything)? Thanks.[/QUOTE]As long as you didn't start having sex (any kind of sex) with the girl, you could probably do that, but it's a very strange situation.
When girls upsell they usually do that after you started doing stuff. At that point the minimum rate has to be paid.
Some real world examples:
1) You get in the room and the girl (before doing anythin) pulls something like: "Do you want a normal suck and fuck standard service or you wish to have a more relaxed, one hr, beautiful session?" I find this, sneaky but honest. Happended often at Palace, sometimes at Artemis with new girls. You decide what to do.
2) You get in the room, start doing stuff then maybe try to kiss the girl and she goes: "no that's 50 extra". Touch her pussy, same stuff. This I really hate, I can take it if it's not extreme but it does spoil it. If it's bad, more than once I quitted the session, paid the girl the minimum and saved a pop.
3) A combination of the above. This really makes me angry. In that case, even if I booked an hour I pay the minimum (if I didn't use up the time) and leave, usually.
But don't bang your head on this, this is very rare, in my experience. Reading some threads, Palace for example, it sounds like things like this happens all the time, but my experience is different. So it's either I'm going to a different club, or I'm very lucky.
If you are concered about this, simply ask everything before, in the details. Something like:
- You do BBBJ?
- You Kiss?
- Can I lick you?
- etc.
I don't like this too much because It makes me feel like I'm buying a car and although I know I'm doing business with a girl that is doing this all day long, I still feel it's a lack of savoir faire to talk like this to a girl. Call me stupid.
What I normaly do, If I don't know the girl and have a gut feeling of some kind is I say smiling something like: "Hey babe, no upselling or bs right? I'd love to lick you, is that ok?" Or something along the line.
To the extreme, at Artemis once I was took to a room by 2 Polish girls. They really tryed to BS me. Said they wanted to use the condom because I was not clean (absolutely not true) , went off and took a shower again, came back and they were chatting together. Started blowing again and out came the condom again. At that point I told them to fuck off and that I would quit. They started saying I had to pay anyways. We argued a bit around that, and finally made a deal wher I gave 30euro each and we closed it there.
This was probably my worst experience of that kind, never happened something similar.
My2cents.
Kimino
[QUOTE=Benjoe;1297378]I haven't been to a FKK but would like to go to the ones around Frankfurt before the end of this year. My question is: If you to a room with a woman and she starts to upsell you and you start to get bad vibes about her attitude, can you leave the room without obligation (paying anything)? Thanks.[/QUOTE]Well I don't like your chances here. Of course you can try, but once you have arrived at the room chances are that you have at the very minimum kissed a bit, perhaps even had your dick in her mouth. Getting away from that scot free will involve some argument and probably management intervention. With the contact I mention, management will probably side with the girl and ask you to pay something.
And if I might be allowed a mild rant here-locals and guys who make German FKK their destination year after year, experienced club goers, have put in some time, spent the money and have the experience to generally manage these situations with a minimum of fuss and grief. In such a situation, if the girl really starts to grind you, pay the girl the minimum, have your way (or not) and get out of there. Chalk it up to experience and move on. FKK clubs are just that, clubs. The sex can be great but there are pit falls from time to time. One of the reasons that the FKK is such fun is that it can, in a good club, mimic the environment of a civilian disco with the advantage of being able to bang the girls instead of having to dance with them and buy them drinks. Guys who come here treating the girls like 'hos and not doing due diligence before heading to the room just sour the atmosphere.
As Kimino notes, this sort of situation you describe is not that common. But it becomes more and more common the more guys just drag a girl off to the room without properly vetting them. Of course the girls say they want you to just head off to the room, they want the cash. It is up to you though to hold steady and make reasonably sure that the girl and you are a fit. Make good choices in other words and suck it up if you make a mistake.
My 2 cents and mildly rant-ish opinion.
AM
This discussion makes me think back at a situation I had as a newbie in FKK World. I just arrived with my wingman and sat down next to a Romanian (shocker!) girl. She was obviously very keen on showing the premises and she started kissing me while I was trying to eat something. I was a bit intrigued by that, because I was not iniating anything, but then again I'm not playing hard to get either! So I let her show me the rest of the World (!) and I felt a bit obliged to have at least a 50 E session with her. But in retrospect I've wondered if I could have pulled out of the deal?
You know what sucker17? I actually think that you could. In the Palace I have had various girls kissing me (no DFK though). And I think they did because they wanted to. Some of them like to cuddle a little even thoug they won't get a session from you. But to newbies: as soon as the girl gets her lips around your dick the deal is done. Is like, you cannot start to eat on a cookie in Starbucks and leave the half of it and say I don't want to pay. For me personally I don't touch girls asses / pussies / boobs without sessioning with them. I find that a little bit disrespectual But of course I can cuddle a little and if they start / show initiative of kissing me of course I don't mind. But thats just my point of view, I don't say it is impossible to touch a girls breast for free in a Fkk, hehe.
Visited the Palace some days ago, acutally three times. One Monday. 2 hours the Tuesday an all the day last Friday. The place was really packed last Friday. Had to wait for the room, but I liked it as I got more cuddling time with my favorite Romanian. I almos fell in love with a girl called Inna or Ila from Romania. Dark hair, rather skinny, navel piercing, nice ass. Small boobs. But very well shaped. She seemed like a shark when she spoke to me inthe club. Asking for a session. And I started to talk with her. And thougt "what tha hell". So we went to the room, decided for 30 minutes. But after some minutes I changed my mind. I really liked this girl. So decided for a 100euro session. And also had to run to my hotel later the same night, to get another 100 euros for a repeat session. The lineup was really good that Friday night. Ill write a detailet report later. Personally I really like the lingerie days, Wednesday. So sucker17 when are you visiting the Palace again, would have been great with a wingman.
[QUOTE=Norwegian90;1297514]Personally I really like the lingerie days, Wednesday. So sucker17 when are you visiting the Palace again, would have been great with a wingman.[/QUOTE]I "had" my first debut at dessous tag in Artemis during my stay in May (nice rhyme to it) and I really liked it. I can't understand why so many are against the lingerie day, as I just think it adds more spice and fun to it. My next trip, hmmm I just invested in a 55" Sony flatscreen that ate a lot of my budget, nice to watch the Euro final LOL! I was planning on a Frankfurt trip mid-August if the finances will allow it. I will for sure be in Frankfurt for work in September during the Automechanika-messe, but I fear the clubs will be a circus!
I have spent all my Fkk money this year. So I will probably visit Frankfurt again March 2013. And the next summer. I totally agree with you when it comes to the lingerie days. I love to undress women. So ca you recommend Artemis? Do you like that club better than Fkk Oase. I haveunderstood that you're not a fan of the Palace, hehe.
[QUOTE=Norwegian90;1297540]I have spent all my Fkk money this year. So I will probably visit Frankfurt again March 2013. And the next summer. I totally agree with you when it comes to the lingerie days. I love to undress women. So ca you recommend Artemis? Do you like that club better than Fkk Oase. I haveunderstood that you're not a fan of the Palace, hehe.[/QUOTE]How cum you manage to hold your horses for such a long time? March 2013. That's a hell of a long time to wait to get back to paradise! Well Palace is not that bad, I am not a big fan of the club, but I've had lots of fun there earlier, especially on calmer nights. The ideal FKK does not exist because there are negative points to find everywhere. What I really love at Palace is the bar staff, really friendly and serviceminded. I would dare to say the best bar / staff among the FKK? The whole cleanliness of the place is of course a very positive point. Then as a non-smoker, I appreciate that they have a separate smokerlounge, it helps a lot. But Palace fails at the most important point IMO: girls service. I would not be fair to say that all girls upsell, but a large proportion of the girls at Palace nags about upselling, the way Kimino described very well.
But what I didn't write in my last report from Artemis is that I feel the upsell strategy has started there as well, it's like a damn virus! My favourite FKK (from what I've visited) is definitely Oase. Artemis comes very close, and is sometimes even on par when it comes to girls service, but what I don't like so much in A is the fact that many more girls now are siliconized. If you're into silicon bimbos, Artemis is definitely the place to be! But personally I prefer next-door-babe-looks instead, and Oase and World have lots on offer here! Another good point is the ambiance, which I feel is so much better at Oase. I can't wait to get back when the renovation is finished!
I've done it several times, you never know just how determined the girl is with getting that 50 euro's. One time I had the girl sitting on my lap at Oase on one of those couch's by the rooms, waiting for one to open. It took 15 minutes for one to free up, massaging her back (not groping). Things looked good until we get in the room and the first thing out of her mouth is 'I can only do BJ, your too big for me'. At which point I said "ok, forget about it then". She then demanded 50 euro's for having to wait for the room. Told her that wasn't going to happen and kept on walking. You don't know if she's going to follow you and make a scene, just start walking.
Another trick is the girl starts with 69 so she can slip a condom on for the BJ. She knows guys are apt to quit the session if she insists on a CBJ. Had this happen on my last trip, she's already sucking away so its too late to duck out of the room. So did the only other thing possible, fucked her hard for the rest of the session. She kept on saying 'you cum yet? ' which I'd reply "I always cum fast with a BBBJ but since you don't do that, we'll have to finish this way' and I'd keep on pounding away. After a weeks worth of BBBJ's, you don't feel shit with a CBJ.
And don't forget the end of the hour trick of trying to trick you into staying past the half hour. This is where the girl will ask if its ok to smoke afterwards, lights up and tries to start a conversation. The conversation is usually forced, you can tell the questions she's asking are a delay tactic to get you to forget about the time. She wants to show up to the money lockers at the 40 minute mark and tell you its 100 euro's, not 50. Yeah, you have to wait for the girl to get dressed, clean up the mess and all. Anything longer than 3 minutes and you have to wonder if she's trying for the extra 50. Only once did I actually leave the room and head back to the lockers, I wanted to be at the bar waiting so she couldn't say I overstayed in the room. Amazing how fast she got dressed after I said I'll meet you at the bar.
I have visited the Palace 5-6 (Idont remember) times this year, so I've had my share of paradise this year. I cannot afford to visit the club again, as I am travelling to the U. S very soon. So I HAVE to wait, but I have to live with that. I can jerk of to my best moments in the Palace. I still would consider myself as a newbie. Haven't visited other Fkks, but have bee to the Palace 7-8 times. And by reading this forum, I didn't get "sharked", not even on my virgin trip. I have always enjoyed my time. And I really think the service in the bar / restaurant / reception is exepctional. And I always find nice GFE providers. That will provide DFK and some really good sex. Actually better sex that I have had in my real life.
Yeah they are working girls, but still just human beiings. If you show them respect and that you really like spending time with them, not just pound them, you may get lucky. For some visitors thats not important. Some of us like PSE, and I respect that. Sometimes I also look for optifucks. But for ME, usually its very important to find a girl that I really like and hopefully she likes me a little too. And I have been lucky several times. And I still think some of them can enjoy their time with customers. Not that I stand a chance outside the club or something like that. But you can find girls that will give you a real GFE with cuddling DFK and all that you desire, for no extras. I have had 50 euros session, with lots of kissing etc. You can also find girls like mentioned above that try to charge extra for everything. Kissing GFE" etc. I usually never go with such girls. I always clear things up BEFORE entering or touching the girls. So I have never had any problems with paying. My last time in the Palace I actually did something unusual" for me, I went with a girl I thought may be a little sharky and cold in the room. But she turned out to be a very good choice. She was cold in the start, (in the start, outside the club). But we chatted awhile and she loosend up and became "another" girl. She said that she got sad because the time was up, because I was so nice to her. I know that many girls can say that, that they love you etc. I can admit that I actually beleived her. I licked her pussy and she told me how fast / slow she liked it. And she took control of my hand showed me what kind of movements she liked. Could not finger her, but seemed like she got a clitoris orgasm. She got wet and moved her lower parts up and down, and kissed my neck like crazy. No kissing with tongue, I repected that. But she was so sweet in the room, I could have her in my arms. Just like a real girlfriend. I felt that the session was "real". Of course you can find some intense and maybe sharky girls. But I just avoid them. In a nice way of course. The first 90 minutes of my stay I usually get approached by many girls, some more intense than the others. But I cannot say that bothers me. I love to arrive early 13. 00 ish and stay until midnight. The place is really clean and the food is really good. I eat like crazy when I'm there. So, so far I haven't had any needs to try out other Fkk clubs. I am so satisfied with the Palace, but my last trip I considered a trip to Oase. But ended up with my beloved Palace. Maybe Ill go to Oase next year. Who knows.
[QUOTE=Breadman;1297570]Another trick is the girl starts with 69 so she can slip a condom on for the BJ. She knows guys are apt to quit the session if she insists on a CBJ. Had this happen on my last trip, she's already sucking away so its too late to duck out of the room. So did the only other thing possible, fucked her hard for the rest of the session. She kept on saying 'you cum yet? ' which I'd reply "I always cum fast with a BBBJ but since you don't do that, we'll have to finish this way' and I'd keep on pounding away. After a weeks worth of BBBJ's, you don't feel shit with a CBJ.[/QUOTE]Wonderful reply! It has never happened to me, but I had to laugh while trying to imagine the scene. I've only had two girls asking me upfront if I wanted CBJ or uncovered BJ. That's ok I guess, but I thought that the girls are obliged to perform a BBBJ if you want them to?
Norwegian90: You have a point. The way we interact with the girls is much more important than just reviews from other guys. You tell the story of the cold girl that unleashes her true self in the room. It can just as well be the opposite story. I once went with a nice looking girl to the room (not in a FKK) , and we really clicked IMO, but the session was nothing but terrible. I mean I can't blame the girl, she just didn't like to have sex the same way as I did. She hold a grip on my back that was very uncomfortable during certain positions and it actually prevented me from cumming. Initally I wanted to complain to the front desk, but restrained myself. After all, she was probably someone elses favorite, but not at all compatible with me. Then I went with Blair, german girl in Artemis that don't kiss, pure optifick! I didn't expect anything from her, except for a massive upsell session, but she turned out to be great. She only suggested I took her for a repeat,"vielleicht eine Stunde beim nächsten Mal schatz?" The way it should be!
[QUOTE=Jymondor;1295559]Hot days coming. What clubs have climate control in common areas and rooms?[/QUOTE]You could try FKK Artemis I know they have special rooms that can suite you.
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Hi,
As for me expereince in palace simple the more money I spend the better the service. So if she agress to go with me prepared for her body to get bend in half due to the pounding she is going to get in her pussy. In oase I am usually nice to the girls as ther are not sharky to me (but some do get the heavy treament). Basically if you are a b1tch you get treated like a b1tch and most palace girls are like this. Upselling none stop (for the young and hot providers the old hands are pretty consistent).
I am going to palace in 2 weeks time. Any girls anyone here want to recommend me to pound Isabela, from Alicante and janita is definetly on the list as I saw her in my last visit but ran out of euros but she has been mentioned a lot lately. Hope these lovely do anal. Does anyone have ant palace chicks to recommend. By the way another hot girl I would recommend from oase is marie. This girl is cold but once you take control of her she is very much submissive.
Anyone going to palace on 13 July pm me as I shall be there.
I`m looking to return to Frankfurt in Sept. Oct time frame. Thinking of renting acar to visit some of the outlying I. E. World & Sharks as well as maybe a further region I. E. France to see the Lourve bonus visit. Anyone interested in teaming up for part of the trip?
was in munich for a few days for business and visits. did not even dare to try the scene there. was contacted by a friend from isg who had a rental car. so we went to colosseum in augsburg. german autobahn is amazing. less then an hourat180 km / h restrained speed door to door from a munich downtown hotel to colosseum.
naked girls dressed only in high heels. exactly what i needed. i am a tit man and i can not decide on a girl if i can not see if her tits are nice, hard, smooth and rosy, or if they are droopy due to having kids. finally truth in advertising.
i was positively surprised. i am picky to choose, like them young and tight. certainly there was enough choice even for my selective taste.
this one has the absolutely perfect boobs i crave, too bad the photos are too small.
[url]http://www.fkk-colosseum.de/index.php?m=0101&mid=349&imgid=2347[/url]
knowing german certainly is helpful, but a bunch of girls greatly preferred english. romanian, polish of course would be ideal, but the odd spaniard, italian can be found.
it is good to come to colosseum first. after seeing oase, there is no coming back to colosseum. you go do colosseum if you are in munich, you would not colosseum is amazingly good for being located in the bavarian bible belt. it has pretty girls, good pricing. food was decent and sufficient in spite of some bad reports on some boards.
the girls were quite pretty, but very shy and behaved. girls never approached any man. no groping. just very well behaved talk. groping could only happen in sessions in the whirlpool, for euro 50 for half an hour. typically as a warm-up for a session in the room for another 50 euro, totaling 100 e.
girls were a bit complex. some would only do covered bj, refuse to use any condom other then their own plain vanilla condom. there was a definite tendency of women leaving after 20 minutes and not fulfilling the full half hour. oh and be aware there are 50 euro surcharges for each of the following: groping pussy, groping asshole, coming in mouth, coming on body. this is cumulative, so be careful not to come in the mouth (+50) and dribble a bit on the belly (+50) for a total surcharge or 100.
summary: if you are in the area, go for it. worth a visit if you are careful and know what you are doing.
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frankfurt: the best city overall, by far.
first visit to oase. plugged the address into my trusted deutsche bank navigator app. got a blow by blow description how to get there. metro s bahn and then a bus. at the final bus stop, i had to spend an hour typing away some emails. started raining in the mean time and there was a 20 minute walk. had the glorious idea to call oase and ask for a taxi. 5 euro. would have been 10 euro from the metro station.
65 to get in. 50 per girl. i thought i had died and woke up in heaven. free drinks (at least the non-alcoholic stuff) , pretty good food heaped on plates by the bar man. and massive numbers of girls, sauna, swimming pool. simply amazing. almost no dogs. lots in the 8+ range. plenty with the hard tits and perfect body that i crave. and many of those with pretty faces to boot. thank god for romania being in the european union. greece may go, spain and italy may go. but romania has to stay. poland, hungary, czech republic are a plus, but legal prostitutes from romania with work permits are germany's salvation.
[url]http://www.fkk-oase.de/[/url]
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frankfurt again. 2 days later.
walked out of main station, ran into the red tourist bus. 12 euro for a 50 minute city tour. well, one has to occasionally do other things then fkk running. frankfurt is so full of brothels and fkk, you stumble upon them. i took mental notes of sudfass fkk with amore, but we inadvertently we passed a few more eros centers during the frankfurt city tour.
left my large pack in a locker at the station. 3 euro for 24 hours (pay again if you have to open it). with my small pack i rented a callabike. de (?). very nice but not sure if you can sign up without a european billing address.
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/call_a_bike[/url]
[url]http://www.callabike-interaktiv.de/[/url]
frankfurt is amazing. you stumble over working girl houses, fkk, brothels even if you don't search for them. after a stop over at sudfass and amore, i continued bicycling and accidentally ran across fkk beach and fkk palace. did not stay, had the right to return to sudfass.
[url]http://eroscenter-amor.com/[/url]
amore is the most amazing laufhaus i have seen. all girls were 8 and over on my scale. asked 30 to 50 euro. the supermodel right out of met-art asked for 50 and seemed nice. a big titted friendly colombian who liked my portunhol (spanish mixed with portuguese). i skipped because at sudfass i could see them naked and grope them for free. well, after 20 to 25 admission plus 5 minimum consumption. some real dogs. a chubby big titted italian accosted me constantly till i relented and got a blow job. told her clearly i wanted no extras, only half hour, no cim, . great bj and hj, did not feel like fucking the cute whale. gave her 50 and got the surprise: 50 more because we did 50 minutes. i complained i had told her half hour, to no avail. always use your own watch, or be even more clear then i was.
[url]http://www.dassudfass.de/[/url]
the second girl ripped me off in a more classy way. told me about the s / m room, said she was not going to charge extra, let me tie her up, slap her around, was totally submissive and hot. after that she asked if it were not worth 100 euro, and i could not say no. when she asked for another 20 tip i told her she already had 50 tip, but ended up adding 10. a beauty with stellar performance.
correction: other laufhauses seem to have good quality too. the inclusion of romania into the european union opened the flood gates for model type beauties at german brothels. thank god for romania's membership in the eu. the old fat hags i saw 10 years ago are pretty much a thing of the past. unlike brazil, where quality goes downhill (still not bad) , germany's quality is clearly going uphill.
did another hour of bicycling and, randomly, passed 2 fkk's. beach and palace. returned to sudfass (free entry for returners)
now sudfass had 2 great girls, pretty skinny and young. one stunner, from eastern europe. slim, great tits, good face. could not resist. so sudfass is interesting to see, they say it was the very first fkk. it really looks antique, with wall and ceiling paintings like a chapel (except it is all sexual paintings). if you are downtown, give it a try. but if you have little time, it is not comparable to oase.
oase again, second visit.
went again to frankfurt. decided to forego experimentation and go for what i know is excellent. oase again. still afternoon. did not see any girls nor food. asked when the food was going to come. they told me food was in the garden. so were the girls. unfortunately, they tend to wrap in towels when in the garden, so less of eye candy and instant boob inspection. still, plenty were topless.
some people complained about the food. i like it. also check the free drink menu. i discovered hot chocolate and apfel schorle, apple juice with sparkling water.
bad homburg is another s-bahn stop, about 12 euro taxi ride away from oase. the advantage is that bad homburg is full of hotels. paid 49 euro special at hotel "haus daheim" at elisabethenstr. 42, bad homburg. 06172 20098-90 their more normal price is 79, up to 200 during messe see m.
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artemis sucks, too many aging hard core siliconized pros.
after visiting colosseum augsburg (ok) oase (wonderful) and sudfass (decent) in frankfurt, i checked artemis.
maybe it was a bad day, maybe because it was saturday, and afternoon. i talked to another visitor and he said he has seen better girls. or maybe it is my taste. i like fresh, young, natural girls with perfect bodies.
artemis personified everything i don't like about girls.
career prostitutes, a bit past their prime, behaving a bit aggressively, plastic tits. even a few brazilians, but not the youngest.
after hours of searching i found 1-2 that i might be interested, but was too shy to ask if the tits were excellent silicone or amazingly natural. the sauna is good, the food also was edible but did not excite me. the fact that the food was in a separate room where the girls were obliged to cover up with towels also did not help the atmosphere.
it looks like an amazingly big place, that screams "commercial sex". i fell in love with oase. so many good girls i had a hard time to decide.
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hamburg.
first the good news. looked for a cheap hotel. asked at the bahn counter at hauptbahnhof. they recommended a&o hotel at reeperbahn, the red light district.
[url]http://www.aohostels.com/de/[/url]
49 euro with breakfast, if you buy there directly at the hotel, you get it for 39 euro. it is also a&o hostel, so lots of gorgeous jailbait or barely legal chicks strutting at reception or during breakfast. no, they don't look available and i did not commit any crimes. but it is amazing how in europe school classes on excursions can be housed in the middle of a hard core red light district.
planned to check out atmos sauna club. after reading some reports on german whoring boards, i decided to skip. seems not too many girls, older then i prefer, and bbbj only for 10 or 20 euro extra. there is general consensus that frankfurt and artemis in berlin are better. considering that i considered artemis crap, i figured i would rather do bicycling or tourism, or take care of my computer obligations. i was tempted to go to fkk babylon but also called it off.
instead checked out reeperbahn, knowing that they are known for "nepp" (rip-off). in spite of all my saviness i got ripped off, too. in a laufhaus, an eros center, i accepted an offer of 2 girls for only 60 euro. should never have taken a dutch and a german. i had heard all the romanians and eastern europeans in the other houses making great offers, fucking, sucking, changing positions, touching, taking off clothes for 50 or less. so i had not paid attention that these bitches had not clearly offered all these services. so the max they had to offer was a hand job with a condom (i kid you not) and the girls remaining fully dressed! for only 250 euro per girl i could get great service. i ended up paying 40 euro more, in the hope that would help. that was enough for one of the two to take off the top and give a covered bj. the other one gave a covered hj and allowed me the privilege to touch her big boobs over her dress top. avoid hamburg's reeperbahn like the plague!
as usual, there is a city tour bus at the main railroad station. harbor tours by boat also available, very impressive. also callabike. de bikes.
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zürich: swiss perfection. the best working girl house in the world.
i was told by various people, that club globe in z&65533; rich was the best fkk club in the world, probably the very best brothel in the world.
[url]http://www.club-globe.ch/[/url]
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so, i had to check it out.
prices, in highly valued swiss franks, are double what the frankfurt fkk charge. about 75 euro to get in, about 110 euro per half hour (prices already converted from chf swiss franks at 1. 20 swiss francs to the euro). so they'd better be good.
i came on a saturday early afternoon. lots more girls then guys. first disappointment: a lot of girls in swimsuits. where were the naked girls? club globe does have naked fkk, but only on mondays and thursdays. but there were good news: lots of girls with the best tits went topless. nudity is optional. a few were naked. others showed off their wares upon request. the other good news: it could have been worse: wednesday is corset day, girls are prohibited to go naked or topless and have to wear, well, a corset that hides tits and bellies. on a wednesday, i would have turned around and left, this is not why i come to fkk.
really, the swiss do everything well, be it pocket knives, watches, or fkk. and the swiss do finances well, so the swiss franc is highly valued which drives prices up. and attracts pretty romanians who sleep there overnight and save all the cash to spend in romania where it is worth a fortune.
all girls are slim, but the flabby flat ass model types are absent. all have pretty decent behinds. plenty of girls walked topless allowing tit inspections others would show tits upon request. groping was allowed, within limits. result: lots of very pretty small to medium size excellent tits. i did not see too much because i picked the wrong day, but i saw enough. i could have easily spent over 1000 dollars if i did every interesting girl. i inspected one set of silicone tits that was absolutely amazing and indiscernible from the real stuff, even when squeezing. the girl said she got it done in thailand.
the girls carefully approach you without undue pressure. if you are interested, you can sit a little and get cozy. careful, if you allow kissing (guess of the dfk kind) or blow job, you are expected to buy a session. the good thing is that the bj time seems not to be deducted from your room time. in the room i was always firm: i wanted a basic half hour session and absolutely no extra charges (100 francs additional would be for cim) for example. here there was no tradeoff between the nice friendly good f. ck or the premium looks not so good performance. you can pick premium looks with good friendly attitude, talented bbbj, they know how to fuck. one of the two i did seem to actually enjoy the fuck and have orgasms. she was the one who suggested i should go down on her to make her come. i did not take her up on the offer, but it seems daty would have been rewarded with real orgasms. the other girl was cooler, but did all her duties and all the right moves.
all girls seem to be concerned with customer's wishes. i failed to try hair pulling and ass slapping, i was too much in awe with the girls.
management is very concerned, shows the place, asks if everything is ok. judging from the girl's behavior i suppose management teaches them how be friendly and pleasant to customers.
good sauna area, but i did not see many people using it. actually, there were not many men. a girl told me that at peak times, there are so many men that you hardly find the girls. good thing, i came on an early saturday afternoon.
unlike oase, no nice outside area, a restaurant but no free food. there is a sunbathing area on the roof, not too impressive and reachable through some scary industrial cargo elevator and outside stairs.
easy to get there:
from z&65533; rich hauptbahnhof take s9 (there might be others) direction usten on rails. and go to stop schwertenbach. you can not miss the stop, the screen inside the metro train always shows the next 4 stops.
club globe is 200 meters past the station, on the left side of the rails, one block from the rails.
use the pedestrian underpass to walk out to the left side of the tracks (left looking from where you came from, downtown zurich). walk next (really close, like 3 meters away) to the rails for about 150 meters, over a small bridge that crosses a street underpass of the metro. next little street left, walk around the building.
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summary:
the best wh. ore house in the world, in my opinion is in zurich. twice the cost you would pay in frankfurt. the best deal is frankfurt. oase is wonderful, did not have time to check the others. i hated artemis in berlin, but maybe i picked the wrong day. if you can choose your place, pick frankfurt and / or z&65533; rich.
i love girls' bodies and tits. it is almost impossible for me to pick girls without a tit inspection. a angel faced girl that turns out to have droopy tits is a waste of money for me. in an fkk you can instantly see all the girls' bodies. i catch myself first looking at a girl's tits. only if these look good i look at the face and the rest of the body.
it is sad that brazil is ashamed of their excellent program girls and puts up dress code or even closes termas and other houses during international events. germany has absolutely no qualms to have fkk open during world cups and frankfurt international trade fairs.
god bless romania. lots of girls look like they are right out of.
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and have good attitudes. they tend to be more mechanical then brazilians, but they really know their moves. rarely do i get bothered by teeth, they know how do cow girl with exactly the right bucking movement. and a reasonable percentage of the girls seem to enjoy sex and have orgasms.
fkk probably select for the girls with the best bodies and tits. i hardly saw girls 20 and under, most i did were 22 to 25, past the age range i would pick in brazil. i often suspected that the girls were lying and actually younger then they said. but probably, they have their act together and did not get a couple of kids, like most brazilians. in general, the girls at fkk seem to be quite intelligent and educated. good news for you guys: most romanians speak much better english then german. even german and dutch girls speak great english. only turkish german girls sometimes fail to speak english.
hotel reservations:
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most train stations have tourist offices that get you a hotel reservations. look for information and tourist offices.
vodaphone web sessions:
it is best to get a separate chip for internet. the web session chip is expensive for phone calls, about 25 cents per minute outgoing. get a second chip for your phone needs. vodaphone is supposed to be one of the best german phone companies and has stores all over. you add balance with cards you find at newspaper stores, edeka supermarkets and everywhere. or just give your credit card number on the internet.
blau. de is a discount phone company, belonging to e2 (?). i got them at a hard to find electronics store in munich airport. they have good prices. i mistakenly took 1gb of internet, valid for a month, for 10 euro, not knowing i could have gotten 3 gb for 15 euro. when the balance is spent, it continues at really slow speed. 9 cents or less for outgoing phone calls. after about 32 euro in one month, it turns into an unlimited flat rate phone.
i also used telecom (t-online) paid wi-fi access (pretty good at all airports and can be found all over german cities. boingo wi-fi service was a total waste.
unfortunately, the moment you leave germany, or even get close to the border, you get into roaming and internet either stops working altogether or gets pretty expensive. probably one has to buy a sim card in every country one goes to, to have reliable internet. yes, most hotels have good internet, if you are happy to have internet access only at night time.