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[QUOTE=BogotaVisitor;1961531]Other site have consistency reviewed solitasparati as the agency who will send ladies in pictures and they alone have plenty of beautiful ladies though only 6 of them speak English.
So you are saying bait and switch is something acceptable in Colombia and happens every time? If clients refuse be & S then it won't happen so often.
When I call I will tell them exactly who I want. I tell them if she is not available then I go for the second choice and third and fourth and. Option until I reach the one who is available. I will be there two weeks and I have selected about 50 ladies which I plan to see less than half of them. If after giving them a long list and still they send me another lady this would be a deliberate attempt by them to deceive (and I also will tell them that after all these options if they send me another lady I won't pay anything in writing). They (the agency) will also receive bad reviews on all Colombia related review boards if in spite of all these they still carry out bait and switch.
As why I have chosen Colombia even though I don't want sex or sexual activities (I do wish her companionship and a dance and hugs and kisses but I am not ready for pay for sex. Call me a moron if you wish) because I have met a few Colombian ladies in Montreal (one married colleague and the rest in Montreal strip bars) and they are all beautiful and friendly. I can only spend a little time with them while in strip bar. I really love Colombian girls and want their companionship for many hours.
Yes I hope that I can find those who can carry out at least some broken conversation in English but your post is not encouraging I try to learn some Spanish then.
I don't know any Colombian lady or ladies in Toronto so what would be the purpose of going to Toronto! Also I believe in North America it is illegal to invite strippers home for companionship (even if no sex or any sexual things happen it is likely still illegal but I am not sure) and for sure I am not going to break the law of the land. Out of question.[/QUOTE]Solitasparati probably fulfills 300 appointments every week. How many reviews have you seen? 5? 10? 50? I'm sure they, along with other agencies, try to satisfy their customer's requests. But they also know the customer will accept whoever shows up. It's not always an attempt to deceive the customer, it's just business.
Are you under the impression that Colombian escort agencies are struggling? Desperate to please every customer? Bogota is a city of more than 10 million people. It is one of the top financial and business locations in South America. The escort agencies have plenty of customers.
And how many of those customers are going to read your bad reviews? Do you think the Bogatanos who see the same escort every 2 weeks are going to drop her, because you flew 4000 miles to see someone else? The foreign businessmen who call for an escort each time they hit town are going to change because you complain about a woman who you didn't even let in your room?
Maybe making threats to businesses is the way things are done in Montreal. I don't see that going over well in Bogota, but go right ahead and try. Don't pay any attention to any advice given to you. Ignore all the experiences of the people on the board. You clearly know all the answers.
After you, in English, demand a Spanish speaker meet all your requirements or face your bad reviews and refusal to pay, I'm certain everything will work out just like you want.
I almost want to schedule my stay in the same hotel, just for the entertainment value.
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Bogota Visitor
You remind me of a guy who wanted to marry the first stripper to give him a lap dance. I'm not trying to be insulting, but you are looking in the wrong place for the wrong thing.
Do yourself a favor and forget your plan. It won't work.
Go to Colombian Cupid and Latin American Cupid and Seeking Arrangements. Put up ads with some good pictures, pay the subscription and start communicating with the ones you like. You can find women who are interested in you, women who share your interests. You can find women who want to spend time with you, instead of women who just want you to pay them.
When you call an escort, you get someone who is paid to have sex. Having sex is what she's good at. Would you go to a strip club and pay a dancer to play the piano? Chances are she doesn't know how and doesn't want to. You can pay an escort for a strip tease, but paying her isn't going to create any chemistry, it isn't going to make her want to chat in a language she doesn't know well. It isn't going to make her like you.
You can spend time getting to know the women, finding out how well they handle English and learning some Spanish. Then you will have real experiences with Colombian women instead of sitting in a hotel room with a beautiful woman who can't wait to get her money and get away from you.
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[QUOTE=JjBee62;1961922]Solitasparati probably fulfills 300 appointments every week. How many reviews have you seen? 5? 10? 50? I'm sure they, along with other agencies, try to satisfy their customer's requests. But they also know the customer will accept whoever shows up. It's not always an attempt to deceive the customer, it's just business.
Are you under the impression that Colombian escort agencies are struggling? Desperate to please every customer? Bogota is a city of more than 10 million people. It is one of the top financial and business locations in South America. The escort agencies have plenty of customers.
And how many of those customers are going to read your bad reviews? Do you think the Bogatanos who see the same escort every 2 weeks are going to drop her, because you flew 4000 miles to see someone else? The foreign businessmen who call for an escort each time they hit town are going to change because you complain about a woman who you didn't even let in your room?
Maybe making threats to businesses is the way things are done in Montreal. I don't see that going over well in Bogota, but go right ahead and try. Don't pay any attention to any advice given to you. Ignore all the experiences of the people on the board. You clearly know all the answers.
After you, in English, demand a Spanish speaker meet all your requirements or face your bad reviews and refusal to pay, I'm certain everything will work out just like you want.
I almost want to schedule my stay in the same hotel, just for the entertainment value.[/QUOTE]The point I was making that clearly you didn't get was that (regardless of how many reviews I have seen for solitasparati) I haven't seen even one review indicating Bait and Switch unlike other agencies.
I didn't make threats. Review board like this are not for threats and retaliations to businesses if you think that or that I made threats you are wrong. Review boards like this are for sharing the good news about good escorts or agencies so that others know and enjoy the good time as well and as well as sharing the bad things about bad escorts / agencies so that they avoid and not to pay the same price you. That is wasting their time and money. It is a contribution rather than threats and I won't tell this to agency beforehand.
So somehow it is the agency (that you say all do bait and switch) and somehow in your post you made me the bad guy! Incredible! Bait and Switch is a bad practice and should not be encouraged or accepted as a norm (and I am not talking about escorts only but anything worse is be & S of an apartment not in pictures and that happens too and should be discouraged and others warned).
As for the other post thanks for advice but LOL I am coming for a two weeks trip and fun not to get married long distance on net who I don't know and spend the rest of my life with and if she divorces me and goes back home then take half my wealth (half the very little that I have).
In Colombia it appears escorts are very inexpensive and based on what I have seen I can fulfill my fantasy for 6 hours with an attractive lady who is likely a university student and classy and clean as good as the ones you meet in dance bars (likely one or two per day) for about $200-$300 or 500,000-900,000 COP to spend time may be dance and dinner and maybe hugs and kisses, without any commitments or risks (and to me at least good time does not have to involve sex or sexual so people are different). It would cost me more than 5 times that in Toronto not to mention that it is likely illegal too in North America and I have a very low risk tolerance level (I never break the law of the land). In the past I believe the name escort used to be non-sexual and she was going out with the guy to dance bars and official engagements or parties as girlfriends or even posed as wives and that is why they were called escorts (to escort someone out) later the sexual component was added but the name remained.
Finally I know you mean well and your intention is to help out so I thank you very much for your responses and advice remembering people are different with different likes and dislikes and risk tolerance levels.
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[QUOTE=BogotaVisitor;1961960]In Colombia it appears escorts are very inexpensive and based on what I have seen I can fulfill my fantasy for 6 hours with an attractive lady who is likely a university student and classy and clean as good as the ones you meet in dance bars (likely one or two per day) for about $200-$300 or 500,000-900,000 COP to spend time may be dance and dinner and maybe hugs and kisses, without any commitments or risks (and to me at least good time does not have to involve sex or sexual so people are different). It would cost me more than 5 times that in Toronto not to mention that it is likely illegal too in North America and I have a very low risk tolerance level (I never break the law of the land). In the past I believe the name escort used to be non-sexual and she was going out with the guy to dance bars and official engagements or parties as girlfriends or even posed as wives and that is why they were called escorts (to escort someone out) later the sexual component was added but the name remained.[/QUOTE]If you think escort girls are more classy or clean, you are in for a rude awakening. They are all barrio girls with a dress and makeup on! This gives them the right to charge 2-3 x the going rate in Colombia? SMH.
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[QUOTE=Hioctane;1962409]If you think escort girls are more classy or clean, you are in for a rude awakening. They are all barrio girls with a dress and makeup on! This gives them the right to charge 2-3 x the going rate in Colombia? SMH.[/QUOTE]Well obviously you are on the ground with a thousand posts and more qualified to state the real situation than me who has never been to Colombia. That said some agencies declare them as university students (though that may be marketing I don't know) and those at solitasparati and few others have very reasonable rates. If what you say is true then they likely carry diseases so I am glad that I am seeking only companionship. That said many reviews I have read about Colombian escorts indicate many clients engaging in DATY and BJ (oral without condoms) with the escorts! In North America I have met many nude dancers in strip bars who dance in order to pay for their college / university and I know this as a fact as I have dated a few. I thought it may be a similar situation in Colombia as per description on their site describing their ladies as university students.
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[QUOTE=BogotaVisitor;1962441]Well obviously you are on the ground with a thousand posts and more qualified to state the real situation than me who has never been to Colombia. That said some agencies declare them as university students (though that may be marketing I don't know) and those at solitasparati and few others have very reasonable rates. If what you say is true then they likely carry diseases so I am glad that I am seeking only companionship. That said many reviews I have read about Colombian escorts indicate many clients engaging in DATY and BJ (oral without condoms) with the escorts! In North America I have met many nude dancers in strip bars who dance in order to pay for their college / university and I know this as a fact as I have dated a few. I thought it may be a similar situation in Colombia as per description on their site describing their ladies as university students.[/QUOTE]I have met stunning escorts that gave great sex through escort sites. However, I could never make up a special relationship with them, as it is just what it is: one hour of sex in a hotelrooom. I would rather suggest you to go tho this club: Juan Pablo Zhivago. This club has a special atmosphere, very different from the other northern clubs with pushy waiters and loud music. Juan Pablo is more like a classy bar where you can talk to any lady and find out the one with mutual chemistry. Most don't speak english however, I hope you speak some kind of spanish. Most are indeed full time prostitutes, but if you have a close look to each of them, you might spot the true semi-pro that just tries to pay her studies. Try to spot the shy one, sitting alone, discrete, that doesn't make eye contact, no fake boobs, few make-up, normally dressed. It happenend often to me in this club. And if you take her out of the club, have a drink with her in Parque 93. You will have the companionship you are looking for ending up in genuine GFE at the end of the night. Take her phone, and next day make an appointment outside the club and treat her like a GF. I'm pretty sure you will get what you came to look for in Bogota.
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[QUOTE=Hioctane;1962409]If you think escort girls are more classy or clean, you are in for a rude awakening. They are all barrio girls with a dress and makeup on! This gives them the right to charge 2-3 x the going rate in Colombia? SMH.[/QUOTE]+1.
I've seen club girls working the street.
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[QUOTE=Routard;1962633]I have met stunning escorts that gave great sex through escort sites. However, I could never make up a special relationship with them, as it is just what it is: one hour of sex in a hotelrooom. I would rather suggest you to go tho this club: Juan Pablo Zhivago. This club has a special atmosphere, very different from the other northern clubs with pushy waiters and loud music. Juan Pablo is more like a classy bar where you can talk to any lady and find out the one with mutual chemistry. Most don't speak english however, I hope you speak some kind of spanish. Most are indeed full time prostitutes, but if you have a close look to each of them, you might spot the true semi-pro that just tries to pay her studies. Try to spot the shy one, sitting alone, discrete, that doesn't make eye contact, no fake boobs, few make-up, normally dressed. It happenend often to me in this club. And if you take her out of the club, have a drink with her in Parque 93. You will have the companionship you are looking for ending up in genuine GFE at the end of the night. Take her phone, and next day make an appointment outside the club and treat her like a GF. I'm pretty sure you will get what you came to look for in Bogota.[/QUOTE]Priceless advice, I just land and I'm jet lag after 11 flight but I can't wait. I to might check out this bar. I'm staying inVvirrey.
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[QUOTE=BogotaVisitor;1961960]...to spend time may be dance and dinner and maybe hugs and kisses, without any commitments or risks (and to me at least good time does not have to involve sex or sexual so people are different). I have a very low risk tolerance level.[/QUOTE]This is what you're looking for:
[URL]https://www.meetup.com/Idiomarte/[/URL]
From what you said, you just want to be in the company of good looking Colombian women.
Ambitious career-minded girls will want to speak English with you. It's possible that you encounter someone who'll escort, I mean, accompany you to enjoy the city.
The S in ISG stands for sex. We're here to discuss finding local women for oral sex, vaginal sex, anal sex, sex in a brothel, sex in a hotel. You're looking for the wrong thing in the wrong place. Not being facetious, just honest. Hope you have a good trip.
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[QUOTE=Parkinsons;1963116]This is what you're looking for:
[URL]https://www.meetup.com/Idiomarte/[/URL]
From what you said, you just want to be in the company of good looking Colombian women.
Ambitious career-minded girls will want to speak English with you. It's possible that you encounter someone who'll escort, I mean, accompany you to enjoy the city.
The S in ISG stands for sex. We're here to discuss finding local women for oral sex, vaginal sex, anal sex, sex in a brothel, sex in a hotel. You're looking for the wrong thing in the wrong place. Not being facetious, just honest. Hope you have a good trip.[/QUOTE]I also don't understand targeting an escort service for a girl to keep you company. That would be about the last place I would look. The reason those sites say "university girls" or whatever is so guys think they're getting a girl that's not a run-of-the-mill prepago. Sure, some might be students. But not at a higher rate than a prepago you meet in any other venue. It's pure marketing.
Things like [URL]meetup.com[/URL] seem like a much better strategy. Heck, you might meet a girl that won't bill you per hour! Or the club Routard referenced.
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[QUOTE=Combo;1963159]I also don't understand targeting an escort service for a girl to keep you company. That would be about the last place I would look. The reason those sites say "university girls" or whatever is so guys think they're getting a girl that's not a run-of-the-mill prepago. Sure, some might be students. But not at a higher rate than a prepago you meet in any other venue. It's pure marketing.
Things like [URL]meetup.com[/URL] seem like a much better strategy. Heck, you might meet a girl that won't bill you per hour! Or the club Routard referenced.[/QUOTE]Or one of the sugar daddy or dating sites. But he's convinced the escorts are all university students, witty conversationalists, with excellent English skills, who don't have sex for money. They just provide companionship. Even though the escort websites all specify what sexual options each escort will provide.
At least some of the other options are being discussed for the rest of us.
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[QUOTE=Hioctane;1960862]Do you speak Spanish? That is like $34 for a redbull vodka. I have never paid that much anywhere in Colombia. Ever!
Go to Atunes in Santa Fe. You will get a drink for around 5 k! The girls mill around and ST is around 60-70 k.[/QUOTE]I do speak Spanish and the cost was for a Vodka Red Bull, not a bottle of Vodka. The Red Bull wasn't included when purchasing a Vodka. It was my first night in Bogota so I simply decided to bite the bullet.
On Saturday I did take a cab to check out Pussy House in Chapineros but couldn't find it and didn't feel comfortable in that area, for instance a man was pissing on the sidewalk, you don't see that happening in Chico Norte. I considered going to Zona Tolerancia but decided against it because of the longer cabride and the fact that I was too pussy to go there when I didn't even feel comfortable / safe (not saying that it actually was dangerous) in Chapineros during the night.
I took a tour to see what places in Chapinero was opened on a Sunday. Casa Millenio and the house on the opposite both seemed closed with no one standing outside and the doors closed. So I took a walk to the area with a lot of casas between the 64th and 66th where you can find Palmeras, Mansion de la Placer and so on. The quality of the girls had declined, still worth it for 25 mil, but I decided to head for the "massage" places at calle 104 on cra 15. I did find it without any problems, I went into four of the places, just as in Chapinero daytime brothel district I wasn't impressed by the selection. One or two of the girls stood out by their looks, but not like earlier in the week. I was quoted 90-100 mil for an hour of sex, I decided to get it on with Julie from Venezuela. She seemed to be in her thirty's, short, decently cute and I liked her body. First the negative, it was CBJ, as usual in the places I've been to in Bogota. Now the positive, everything! She was pretty tight and most importantly, she gave 100%! From the moment we started to the finish after 60 minutes when the knock on the door came. It was GFE, PSE so I was totally finished afterwards.
I found it interesting that my best experience in Colombia was with a girl from Venezuela.
Overall I think Bogota is great for those wanting to fuck many decent looking girls without spending too much money. I myself prefer to maybe have one or two great fucks a day with a gorgeous girl which provides a stellar service. In some ways I think I might have been better off going to Madrid or Malaga. But I did the enjoy the weather and visiting a new place.
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[QUOTE=Parkinsons;1963116]This is what you're looking for:
[URL]https://www.meetup.com/Idiomarte/[/URL]
From what you said, you just want to be in the company of good looking Colombian women.
Ambitious career-minded girls will want to speak English with you. It's possible that you encounter someone who'll escort, I mean, accompany you to enjoy the city.
The S in ISG stands for sex. We're here to discuss finding local women for oral sex, vaginal sex, anal sex, sex in a brothel, sex in a hotel. You're looking for the wrong thing in the wrong place. Not being facetious, just honest. Hope you have a good trip.[/QUOTE]Even though S in ISG stands for sex as you mentioned but I still find this forum useful ([blue][Message to Admin deleted][/blue]). For example I found out from this and other Bogota review site that solitasparati is a good reliable agency with young ladies and good looks (looks is what I am after not services). Also I found out that Lloyds Hotel apartment is likely the best I can find (girl friendly, inexpensive and in the safest location) beside some members like Routard, JjBee and yourself have provided me valuable info on other clubs and links where I may be able to find ladies for companionship only.
Thank you to all.
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First time
So got this girl coming from agency, Kathy huge natural tits great body. But ill confirm when she has done her duty. 250 for BBBJ sex and taxis. Maybe a lot but I don't care she was hard to find. I will update later.
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Update
Kathy came to hotel, no problem about ID or ask for extra money. She spoke no English and was very shy. Body was nothing like photos she has had a kid and tits like my dogs ears. So I help undress her she gave a decent BBBJ. Pussy was tight but she smelled dirty. Can't understand why some girls just can't jump in shower first, if I could smell it I'm sure she could. I told her she looked different from her photo, she asked to see and yes a very nice old photo. I never had condom so I just said blow job is cool. I dragged her in shower she wanted to fuck without condom, that put me off so I got dryad and never came. Gave her candy buffalo wings and water when she left. Not so much of a thank you. Cute girl but you can tell she doesn't want to be there. I will upload agency photos of girls later.