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Senor Saint ... again nice reports.
I think because you've traveled quite a bit and you speak Spanish, your experience in Cali is 'easygoing'.
Imagine some of those gringos from the Costa Rica, 'Gringo Gulch' crowd hanging around Cali ... they wouldn't quite get the same reception as you're getting.
To you it's easy ... to others, trust me ... wouldn't quite be the same.
Yes, anyone can run to the casas and get laid, but, the extra experiences you're having is because of your experience and spanish skills.
Trust me ... I've seen guys miserable because they wanted more than just 'puta' pussy but couldn't communicate.
Suerte!
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Ricker,
NO doubt you are 100% correct. I thought I emphasized it enough in my report that speaking conversational Spanish is very key here to enjoy the extra benefits. I CAN'T imagine the gringo gulch type here. I hated CR for the fact that many of the guys looked like degenerates. Many were loud, drunk and obnoxious. Many bragged to have been going down to CR for years yet couldn't even learn some basic Spanish. If you speak little to no Spanish you won't have a good time here. To get the full experience of any country you have to be able to communicate. It's especially true here as there are less people that speak English than any place in Latin America I've visited.
If some of the CR guys were here acting like they act in the Blue Marlin then they probably would get mugged, beaten or worse here. This is NOT the place to be loud and obnoxious. These people are pleasant but up to a point I think. I haven't even seen that many Americans. I did talk to a guy last night that was a cool dude. He was mild and reserved like me. There was another American in the club and he was the same way. Any dudes that come here after a while know how to behave. Hell, any dude should have the common sense to know not to act that way in a foreign country.
Another thing I noticed is even though there are foreign tourists here they aren't a novelty. People don't stare at you like other country. People here seem to treat everyone as equals unless they are given a reason not to.
Cali isn't going to be for everyone. For me it's been a dream vacation. I don't have enough hours in the day to get all I want done. My experience last night was unreal with that hottie. I'm meeting her today for dinner.
The thing that sucks with the pros is most of them have to work everyday except Sundays. On Sundays since they are gone all week they have to spend it with their families. Many of these girls have kids and it's the only day to spend with their families.
Ricker is 100% correct that your experiences probably won't mirror mine. I've been having just as much fun with the non-pro stuff then the pro stuff. Please have realistic expectations when arriving here.
On the downside, I ate something bad last night and I've had bad diarrea all night. At least I haven't been throwing up but still. I think I've lost every bit of liquid in my body. I gotta go shower and drink lots of Gatorade. I'm still not sleeping well but hasn't slowed me down yet.
If I haven't emphasized it enough...take care of yourself. I think no matter your age if you take care of yourself then that is what counts. Some girls like older guys and some don't. My hottie last night said lots of her friends like older guys because of their ability of stability. She again called the guys here Perros. Many girls like older guys because it represents safety and stability.
One thing I have never scrimped on is clothes and shoes. Remember you never get a 2nd chance to make a first impression in life. NO different with these girls. Dress nice. Also, take care of your face and body. I have been using lotion on my body since I was in high school. It makes a big difference. Yeah, it's kind of wussy huh? But the girls always comment on it.
Also, use high end products like Zirh. They have several face stuff. They have this stuff in a series called Correct, Protect, Restore, Clean. They are by far the best product on the market. I noticed a difference after the first few months using it. It will take years off your face. It can be found in any type of nicer store like Foley's, Macy's, etc. I probably spend about $120 a month on all their stuff and it works great.
Another funny story. In one of the taxis yesterday I was shooting the shit with my taxi driver. A young dude. I was telling him how hot all these girls are. He agreed. Then I told him that all the Calenas called them dogs (perros). He had this surprised look on his face and was like, "QUE!!"(WHAT??). I told him that if I lived here I would be labled a dog too. He was still pissed but then eventually laughing. He was saying how the guys wouldn't be dogs if all the hotties weren't offering it up to them. He said many hotties know that these guys are married or have girlfriends and they don't care. He called the girls dogs too. It was comical.
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Saint - Nice reports as usual. I do think $120 a month is a bit much to spend on lotion though. Brings on Michael Jackson thoughts. Don't want to start calling you "rubba". ;)
I'm glad you went to some of the normal places. It seems you usually go only to high end places that for an extended period would be out of my price range.
I'm hoping to spend a week or two in Colombia later this year. It usually seems to be a comparison of Cali and Medellin. Like Nicaragua, I think that Colombia has many tourists frightened. I think if you are careful and not stupid you'll go far.
I'd be a bit nervous about carrying around so much high dollar equipment though. On my trip to Malaysia and Thailand last month, I only had my $900 Nikon with me, and it was a pain to carry my camera bag around. I much prefer a small digital camera that just slips in my pocket.
I'm looking forward to your photos - I'm not sure if you've posted them in the Photo section or not. I'll check them out.
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Jaimito,
The $120 is not just on "lotion". Itīs on hair gel, shaving cream, shampoo, conditioner, cleaners, lotions, etc. There is a huge product line from Zirh. Yeah, itīs a lot but isnīt investing in yourself worth it? Ha, ha.
I usually do only hit higher end places but I have my reporter cap on. I want to get a sense of what is out there. Iīm hitting most parts of the city.
Iīm at ChipiChope now waiting for my Peptol Bismul to kick in. Iīve been pissing out of my ass for the past 6 hours or so. This is the first time Iīve been sick in all my travels. Iīm starting to hit the wall a little because of the lack of sleep.
As far as the expensive stuff. Itīs all in my backpack so no one knows what I have. Even my Ipod is in my backpack. The Swiss Army backpacks have a hole for earphone wires. Many of the younger crowd here have bags or backpacks so no one knows whatīs in mine. As I posted before. Iīm long overdue to get mugged so maybe this trip. Iīm here until Friday night unless I extend again.
I might rest up today. Iīm meeting one of my girls at 5:30 PM here at ChipiChope to have dinner before she goes to work. Then I have to try to hook up with my normal girl tonight but she doesnīt arrive back from Bogota until late at night so maybe Iīll try one of those other clubs in South Cali. Later.
Saint
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First off, thanks Saint for the reports. Now, just so I can put it out there. I JUST got back Avianca and priced my ticket to Cali. I am leaving March 16 and will return March 21. The roundtrip ticket is going to run me $296. Considering I am buying in 2 weeks in advance, that isnt to bad. Another thing, I am currently in Panama City, Panama so obvioulsy the ticket is going to be a bit cheaper. Well fellas, if anyone is going to be Cali those days let me know. March 16-March 21. And thanks to all the good insight on this board I think I will be staying at the Cali hotel. Anyhow just updating you dudes.
PS-Saint I checked out your pics in the photo Gallery, I love the brown skin one that has her back to the camera.
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I just met AntiFreeze from this board and his wife too. A really cool guy that is super funny. He and his wife seem very content with their life here. He moved here about 6 years ago. He read all my posts and he PMéd me. He was astonished that he agreed with just about everything I wrote about Cali. If you're reading this Antifreeze, I hope we have the chance to hook up again. If not, buenas suerte. I'm sure I'll be in Cali again so I'm sure we'll hook up again.
I read on the general discussion section on another board how guys are talking about the dangers. Maybe I mis-spoke when I said it's "perfectly safe". Columbia can't be categorized that way I guess, but I will say that in all my journeys I find Cali no more dangerous than Rio or a handful of other cities.
I'd actually like to hear from guys that have actually been to or lived in Cali or Columbia instead of all the guys that only read State Department warnings. I just talked to my girl. Going out tonight. I hope my stomache gets better soon.
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" Hope stomache gets better soon. "
From an older guy to a younger guy, see a DR if you have cramps with those runs asap. Take Tums along with your medicine and for god's sake " get some rest ".
starfe
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Saint,
Ive been using Zirh aftershave for 2 yrs. Fantastic since its non-alcoholic. I keep it refrigerated after saleswomans recommendation. Some extract ingredients are ginseng, echinacea, slippery bark, plantain, aloe vera, sea kelp plus chemical substances.
Guys, be careful what you eat f.ex. salads or lettuce washed in water. Take precautionary measures. Drink bottled water and brush your teeth with bottled water. DATY only when freshly cleansed, right? (S).
4― weeks until departure for CTG.
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Ok. It was bound to happen. I officially hit the wall tonight. I feel terrible. I was on another date with the total hottie from FF. She is so sweet. We had some beers, walked around and I did the "shopping mall" test with girls I normally do. I see if they ask to buy them anything. Get this. I noticed her birthday was coming up in a few weeks on her ID so I told her I wanted to buy her a pair of jeans. We went into 3 stores and she told me to save my money. She didn't buy anything! We're talking about $70 jeans even in Cali in the high end stores. Oh well.
We went to eat at a Parillia but I was feeling so aweful. Not only did my stomache hurt but I started getting a migraine headache. Í mean I feel so sick that if she was naked and attacked me I'd have to turn her down. That's how bad I feel. I told her that I didn't sleep last night (which is true) and that I ate something bad. She asked if I wanted to buy her way out of the club (70,000 pesos) and she would stay with me. I am dead, sick and not to mention that I had to call my non-pro girl that got back tonight. At dinner she was showing me pictures of all her family (sisters, brother, son, mom,dad). I think they do this once you build a rapport and some trust with them.
Shit. So I drop her off at work and we make out a bit. She told me to call tomorrow. Meanwhile I'm dying on the way home in the taxi thinking I'm going to puke. I get to the gate and Rigo tells me that non-pro hottie called me and that I needed to get ready. I told him I was sick and dead. I did talk to her and we talked for 35 minutes. She wanted to do something tonight but I just can't move. We are meeting for lunch tomorrow and maybe tomorrow night. We'll see how lunch goes. But on the phone she already told me that she wants me to meet her parents! We'll see how it goes. She's a totally sweet and gorgeous girl.
Anyway, that means I can't meet your amiga FLHobbyer tomorrow as I was supposed to. Not enough hours in the day. I hope I don't feel like dogshit tomorrow because I want to make a good impression on my amor.
I'm dying. I'm going to try to get some rest. Tomorrow is either going to be the greatest of all days or it's going to be crap with me being sick. Pray for me gents.
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SAINT,
Great reports it really does bring back some great memories of what cali was like when I was there about a 1 year ago. You know what they say in cali "las caleņas son como las flores", I've yet to meet girls that are as beautiful and nice as the caleņas. thanks for sharing your experience.
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Saint,
Your doing a great job on your reports. I was on another board a couple of years ago but that turned into a Flame/B.S forum and I have not been into forums since. I should really thank everyone Antifreeze, Frijole, Simple Man + many others for some really great info.
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I did wake up with a full recovery. I think I just needed to get a few good hours of sleep. I feel fresh and I'm meeting my sweetie pie at 3 PM when she has her break from work.
I can't emphasize enough how good of a guy Rigo is at the Hostel I'm staying. There are nicer accomodations in Cali. In fact, I usually try to stay at the nicest places in town when I travel since I have a difficult time sleeping. There are many untold benefits of using Rigo. First of all he goes the extra mile to help you and he asks for nothing in return. I was sending roses to my girl today and I wrote out a letter. My Spanish is decent but there were still mistakes. Rigo took the time to correct them and printed the letter out for me. He also arranged to have them delivered.
He is a genuinely friendly guy and he gets the Saint seal of approval. I'd highly recommend him if you're coming to Cali. [url]http://www.calihotel.com [/url] calihotel@hotmail.com
I was supposed to meet FLHobbyist's amiga at noon but I had to reschedule because I'm meeting my Flores Fresca girl. Funny she just called now and I'll meet her after 5 PM. So I'm meeting FF girl at noon, then going directly to meet non-pro hottie girl, then going to meet FLHobbyist's amiga. It will be a long day. Plus, I'll do something with one of the girl's tonight. Probably the non-pro girl. I'm sure the flowers will be a big hit.
I'm going to go to ChipiChope to walk around some and enjoy the day. Life is good.
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Saint - Glad to hear you're doing better. Sometimes a good nights rest lets your body recover. What's the rate at Rigo's place? I always prefer to stay at a smaller place as long as the rooms are nice. Personal service is great.
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Saint: Great report. I hope you find whatever you are looking for from the non-pro girl.
I (and many on this board) am waiting for the conclusion between you and the non-pro girl.
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Damn. I just had the best date of my life. I met with my non-pro girl for our date. We spent two hours together laughing, talking, eating and getting to know one another. She is the type of girl that I could retire from hobbying from. Understand that Iīm the type of guy that really has a lot of confidence. There isnīt a girl in the USA that I donīt feel I couldnīt get if I wanted. Many guys tell me that if I keep this hobbying up I wonīt be able to be happy with an American girl. What they donīt realize is that I donīt want an American girl!
Iīm meeting her again tonight and going to her house to pick her up. Iīm meeting her parents. She is just a simple girl. She doesnīt like going to the clubs/bars, prefers to stay at home, has a big heart and is as beautiful as they come on the inside and outside. Iīve met a lot of beautiful girls in my life but she might be the most beautiful one. I do prefer them a little older (she is only 19) but looks like 23 or so.
I think I was totally wrong about the girls here dating older guys. They must date guys much older than me because everyone keeps telling me how young I am. The club girls must have older novios.
Everyday Iīm here I have a deeper respect for their way of life here. There is a simplistic way of life here that I really admire. They treat people like a member of their family. I canīt tell you how nice the people are are with the few tourists that are here. Every single taxi driver has been so nice to me. Most give me their phone numbers inviting me to use them again anytime I need to. I do tip them and they really seem to appreciate it as the locals probably canīt afford to tip them. Again, I think the nicer Americans are with them it bodes well for future American visitors. Treat these people right and they will treat you right.
Americans often travel around with the attitude that we are the best in the world. That isnīt right. Not everyone envies us. In fact, I envy the way of life here and the respect that these people seem to have for one another.
I feel great! Iīm here at ChipiChope waiting on the amiga of one of the dudes from WSG. We are meeting for a drink.
Life is great!
Saint