Big Johnson,
Do you have information for these two places "El Closet" and "Contours". I am going to Mexico City soon and I would like to sample them
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Big Johnson,
Do you have information for these two places "El Closet" and "Contours". I am going to Mexico City soon and I would like to sample them
El Closet is at calle saltillo #67 in Colonia Condesa.I have been there many times over the last three years and prefer it over any of the clubs in DF.No taxista in DF will recommend this club because they do not pay comission to the drivers.The drivers will always try to push Queens or the Cadillac Bar on you.The Closet has about 20 girls,with full service on the premises if you wish.There is a 60 peso cover and do not get there before 11.Wednesday thru Saturday are the good nights.Ask for Rachel or Laura they are both gfe if they like you and will also go to your hotel for about $200 if they are comfortable with you. As always in the DF check your bill closely,or pay buy the round,the maseros like to give themselves an extra tip without asking.The Closet is about 10 minutes from the hotels in Reforma y Polanco.Also you don't have to pay for a taxi to wait for you,they have perfectly safe taxis employed by the club that will take you back to your hotel.I have taken 4 girls out of there over the years and still am friends with 2 of them.You will find hard core strippers here but I have also met several students and first timers.Even though I don't recommend DF for clubs this place is one of the best they have,but like the rest of the DF it is not cheap(200 pesos a table dance,50 pesos per beer! U.S. prices) I recomend meeting a girl at the club and then setting up a date with her the next night for dinner at your hotel befofe she goes to work.But even with this plan you're probaly going to have to buy some drinks and dances so she knows your sincere.Good luck,hope this helps.
What is going on with all the horny guys in this board? Nobody has posted anything for over a month. I am sure somebody has had some experiences.
I am going there on December. I will post some information when I am there. In the meantime, let's share some information people!
to rkosonom:
dude, the only thing I can post in this section is this: watch your ass big time when you're in Mexico City. This is one hell of a dangerous city. Just get your business done and get the hell out of Mexico City. This advice from a guy who was just there 3 days ago. J.G.
JG,
What happened in Mexico City? Something in particular, or just a bad feeling? -P
Prokofiev
nothing has ever happened to me personally, but as I said it's a very dangerous city. it has a huge population, many of them poor immigrants from other parts of the world, such as El Salvador, Guatemala, etc. There is a lot of kidnappings and car jackings and all kinds of other crimes happening there. I guess what I am trying to say is just be extremely careful. Even choose your cab drivers with extreme caution because they can end up robbing you.
I know you have been to Guadalajara. Well, let me just say that Guadalajara is about 100 times safer than Mexico City. So just be very careful. J.G.
Yes, I definitely agree that Guadalajara is much safer, but your post makes it seem that something terrible happened to YOU. Have been to MC many times and although I hear the stories and see some questionable characters on the street, NOTHING bad has ever occured in any city in Mexico. Many people get scared from stories. Mexico City is safer than my city in the US. Less murders per capita, by far. I agree we should be careful, but I don't like paranoia either . . .
Prokofiev
I respect you and I don't want to get into some kind of a back and forth argument, but let me just give you a few examples so you know these aren't just "stories": The son of Mexico's most famous Mariachi singer(Vicente Fernandez)was held hostage for three months and had two fingers cut off. Currently two sisters of the singer Thalia are held hostage for ransom. There are multiple car jackings DAILY in Mexico City and you can hear/read about them in the media. The Mexicans themselves will tell you to be extremely careful with the people you choose as your taxi drivers in Mexico City. And again, with all due respect to you, I have been to Mexico City multiple times myself and I can not believe that it is safer than your U.S. city, no matter what the supposed "per capita" crime is.
So again, I believe people visiting Mexico City should be very careful about venturing out at night, going into dangerous areas looking for escorts. You can call me paranoid, but I believe in playing it safe. Like I said, I believe Guadalajara to be an almost absolutely safe city-go to the malls, esteticas, etc and enjoy the girls- but Mexico City is a whole different story.
Lots of people here say, "well, nothing bad has ever happened to me". I think that's to be expected. I mean the poor tourist that got his head kicked in by his cab driver and his buddies and is in a Mexico City hospital ICU is not gonna be posting here.
Peace. Cuidate. J.G.
JG
The "tourist who got his head kicked in" will eventually leave the hospital and COULD post here - which is why I asked you what happened in the first place . . . After all, the guys who do post here usually run with questionable characters, in questionable barrios, late at night. I feel we are more at risk than the average tourist. Most of the kidnappings are of famous families or business executives (Mex or foreign) - people known to have big time money who could pay a large ransom. Remember, there are more than 25 million people - maybe 30, in MC. That's 2 or 3 New Yorks. I live in a small city and there is a car jacking every day and an average of 1 murder every day. For MC multiply by 50 or 60 . . . Driving an expensive car or appearing to be rich is NOT a good idea in DF but again, I have never had a problem nor know a person who had a problem there. But I have been robbed several times here in the US. I'm NOT saying I think its safe - just asking for real experiences. The Thalia thing doesn't have much to do with the average person.
Prokofiev
You got the last word on that topic. Take care. J.G.
The family I am staying with in the State of Mexico has 5 members, and 3 of them have been robbed in 2 incidents. Those are bad statistics. One was a bus robbery and in the other they were in a hospital. Both were mass robberies where a couple of guys come in with pistols and clean house with everyone. Pretty good gig if you have no morals. But it IS real! Watch out for stray dogs, too...
D,
I have no doubt that it's real and that's why I worry about it - especially in Mex City. But again this is the world's largest city and lots of shit happens. In my lifetime, I've been robbed at gunpoint, had things stolen numerous times and had a guy murdered on my doorstep. Right here in the US. I'm more interested in how I can protect myself, what to look for and if there are any clubs or joints to steer clear of. Any strippers or SW's who run a scam and how it works. With all the guys who have written here, I have not heard any '" this happened to me" stuff. Only "I read in the paper" stuff. With 30 million people, the sheer numbers are going to be huge. Of course, if you live on a farm in Iowa, Mexico City seems pretty damn dangerous- and IS, but if you live in an urban center or especially places like Detroit, New Orleans, Philly, New York etc., this is pretty commonplace. The murder rate (per capita) in MC would not make the top 10 in the US.
More reports please . . . Peace - P
Gentlemen:
As you have heard on the news today, former NY city mayor, Guilliani, has been hired to help fight the crime(I quote "carjackings, murders, and kidnappings")in Mexico City. It is an ESTABLISHED FACT that Mexico City is a very dangerous city-just what I have been saying all along. This is a fact that is widely recognized by all Mexicans themselves. I find it rather amusing that Prokofiev wants to keep arguing to the contrary.
Is Mexico City the most dangerous city in the world? of course not, but it's plenty dangerous. To put it in some perspective, the people in the know say that it is almost as dangerous as Sao Paulo or Bogota. I want to advise the readers of the forum, those who care a great deal about their personal safety, just to be extra cautious when they are in Mexico city. In fact if possible, try to choose other "hobby" destinations to visit in Mexico. There are plenty of other choices, in fact there are dozens of better choices in the Republica Mexicana.
Prokofiev:
Please read Dylock's post again carefully. Enough said. J.G.
I lived in Mexico City. Yes, it's dangerous Prov and JG say or allude to. Prov says treat it like any other major metropolitan area. This is true. Don't go the ATMs alone late at night, don't go in Pirate (street) taxis especially if the driver doesn't match his permit or if a permit is not displayed, don't walk around with a lot of jewelery of flashing a lot of cash and don't walk around alone.
Other Latin Am countries have "unwritten" laws that promote safety as well. Like If you are driving late at night and there is a stop light but no traffic, you treat it like a stop sign.
The one thing I learned in DF (and some of it is written here) is the peoples concept of dangerous is different in Mexico. Dangerous starts at robbed. I think we think more of Dangerous in dead. This is not to say you won't get robbed and killed or beaten up in DF but it is probably less likely than in a major US city. More likely you will be threatened with a weapon and anything of value will be taken. If it does, give your valuables up. It is better to be a little poorer and alive than dead or injured.
Sorry for the diatribe but lets get back (or start) to discussing hobbying in DF. Thanks.
to all,
i hope this is my last post about mc crime. what i want to tell people, especially those unfamiliar with it, is that mexico city is one of the world's great cities. spectacular museums, restaurants, parks, theaters . . . very cosmopolitan, sophisticated. i love it. it's wonderful and you should not fear it. like any large city - and it is the world's largest - it has crime and can be very dangerous.
i live in new orleans. several years ago we had 500 murders in 1 year with a population of only 450k. that equates to over 30,000 murders in mexico city or 10+ times their actual rate. if you are not afraid to travel to no or nyc or detroit or sanfran (and maybe you should be) then please don't hesitate to visit mex city. imagine how they feel about living in d.c. right now, with some clown with a high-speed rifle randomly killing people?
j.g. when i read your original message i thought- "what in hell happened to this poor guy. sounds terrible! i need to find out to protect myself" but it turned out to be nothing specific. the mexico forum discussed this at length 6+ months ago. the perception of mexican crime vs. the reality. compared to my neighborhood, i feel safe on mexican soil - even mex city! but trashing a great desination like mc, i.e. " get the hell out ..." is not fair. be careful there, yes. but avoid it at all costs, no!!!!!!
peace, - p