Lukasek,
You need to find a good WINGMAN before you get into trouble. You have too many bad incidents, and you seem to look for chemistry. Stay out of Rio during holidays, or the garotas will have you playing Santa Claus with your mongering budget.
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Lukasek,
You need to find a good WINGMAN before you get into trouble. You have too many bad incidents, and you seem to look for chemistry. Stay out of Rio during holidays, or the garotas will have you playing Santa Claus with your mongering budget.
[QUOTE=Pyjama]Within 2 weeks you only picked 2 girls from help? So help doesn't seem to be the best place for you in terms of girls. If you are in Rio strictly for mongering there might be better options for you.
PJ[/QUOTE]PJ - Lukasek is hunting diamonds while the rest of us are happy with pebbles ;)
I agree with you - perhaps Rio is NOT the best place for him.
i do hope lukasek will find some more diamonds, but obviously he should look for them in different places, other than helpee.
[QUOTE=Jake993] perhaps Rio is NOT the best place for him.[/QUOTE]
I've told it several time to Luka.
Why he has the balls to venture and linger in provincial Russia (which requires HUGE balls indeed!) and on the other hand during his trip to Brasil stays in Copacabana (which is only a mass prostitution mecca filled with unadventurous *****mongers and hardened and ugly favela hoes) is beyond me.
Pijama,
2 girls from help and 7 from termas plus one from sweetpussy,6 from termas were great,but ok Rio is not my place....this is why I will leave very soon....finally :)
Jamaicanceo,
sorry....too many bad incidents are what ? A girl from help that takes cocaine it seems, reading the thread here, something very normal, so no bad incident, but just the routine.
Yesterday she got robbed and not me, second it seems to me pretty naive that a brazilian girl dress gold chain and me, turist here, neither a cheap plastic clock....to be robbed if you dress a gold chain here, it is not a incident, but what you deserve....people sleep in the streets, almost no money to eat and then we should be surprised if we got robbed when we show them "food for one month" (a gold chain I suppose is really food for one month for them...)....and btw I told her, out of help immediately inside a taxi, she said, I am hungry, lets go there....another paradox a turist that suggest a brazilian girl what to do....
Jake993,
you know me so well and I promise you, next time I will follow your suggests from the beginning...
Prosal,
you know me too, yes, maybe you do not believe me, but speaking Russian was almost easier to go to Sibiria than to move here where nobody understand english. Again after so long travelling in Russia, I noticed I got a bit lazy, to pack again clothes and change city, my idea was 2 months in Rio with maybe see one different city. My fault that I did not understand that Rio is one of the most overrated place, good for just a fast fuck with girl with busted face or with a belly bigger than her breast if not fake breast,you got real so low quality here, I cannot understand how so many person LOVE Rio and even less I understand what I see every day....
I would like to take one after one some man I see with skank girl here, to Piter to have one hour with a girl from photomodeli... I am sure they will have immediately heart attack....
Believe me Prosal....it is only cause I was lazy, and cause I had no time to plan well this travel..., I thougth as this travel as to take rest and stay in Rio, now I will use again my big balls that gave me the chance to go alone to Sibiria and I will make even this travel, as the last one, really worth it....it is a promise !!!
p.s. sometimes better I will decide to go back to work too ;) however I am sure, worst than here it cannot be LOL
[QUOTE=Lukasek] Rio is one of the most overrated place, good for just a fast fuck with girl with busted face or with a belly bigger than her breast if not fake breast,you got real so low quality here, I cannot understand how so many person LOVE Rio and even less I understand what I see every day....now I will use again the my big balls ....it is a promise !!![/QUOTE]
I thoroughly share your thoughts about Copacabana. Nonetheless remember that Copa is a very small and very unrepresentative part of Brasil.
[QUOTE=Lukasek]Pijama,
2 girls from help and 7 from termas plus one from sweetpussy,6 from termas were great,but ok Rio is not my place....this is why I will leave very soon....finally :)
Jamaicanceo,
sorry....too many bad incidents are what ? A girl from help that takes cocaine it seems, reading the thread here, something very normal, so no bad incident, but just the routine.
Yesterday she got robbed and not me, second it seems to me pretty naive that a brazilian girl dress gold chain and me, turist here, neither a cheap plastic clock....to be robbed if you dress a gold chain here, it is not a incident, but what you deserve....people sleep in the streets, almost no money to eat and then we should be surprised if we got robbed when we show them "food for one month" (a gold chain I suppose is really food for one month for them...)....and btw I told her, out of help immediately inside a taxi, she said, I am hungry, lets go there....another paradox a turist that suggest a brazilian girl what to do....
Jake993,
you know me so well and I promise you, next time I will follow your suggests from the beginning...
Prosal,
you know me too, yes, maybe you do not believe me, but speaking Russian was almost easier to go to Sibiria than to move here where nobody understand english. Again after so long travelling in Russia, I noticed I got a bit lazy, to pack again clothes and change city, my idea was 2 months in Rio with maybe see one different city. My fault that I did not understand that Rio is one of the most overrated place, good for just a fast fuck with girl with busted face or with a belly bigger than her breast if not fake breast,you got real so low quality here, I cannot understand how so many person LOVE Rio and even less I understand what I see every day....
I would like to take one after one some man I see with skank girl here, to Piter to have one hour with a girl from photomodeli... I am sure they will have immediately heart attack....
Believe me Prosal....it is only cause I was lazy, and cause I had no time to plan well this travel..., I thougth as this travel as to take rest and stay in Rio, now I will use again my big balls that gave me the chance to go alone to Sibiria and I will make even this travel, as the last one, really worth it....it is a promise !!!
p.s. sometimes better I will decide to go back to work too ;) however I am sure, worst than here it cannot be LOL[/QUOTE]
This is why it is essential to learn something about the culture AND language of the country you plan on visiting .
[QUOTE=Prosal]
Originally Posted by Lukasek
Rio is one of the most overrated place, good for just a fast fuck with girl with busted face or with a belly bigger than her breast if not fake breast,you got real so low quality here, I cannot understand how so many person LOVE Rio and even less I understand what I see every day....now I will use again the my big balls ....it is a promise !!!
;)[/QUOTE]
Hi Lukasek,
I just read your post. I don't quite agree with your conclusion. It really depends on who you choose and where you go in Rio. There are plenty places besides Help where you can find very very nice garotas. Even at Help you can succeed. Anyway, my experience is different from yours. (been here many times) However you are right that very few speak english. I speak some portuguese and that makes a BIG difference. If you can talk and joke with them a little, it will not be a 'fast fuck' as you call it, but more of a girlfriend experience (GFE). Today I visited 4x4 in Centro. I spent 1 hour with a tall blonde 23 year old supermodel of the kind that you normally only see on expensive glossy magazines. And she had no inhibitions!
She spoke some english. Because I went to the room before 17h00 the entrance fee was free. Total cost including suite, girl and 1 drink: 205 R$.....that's less than 70 euro! Man, I know no place on earth where you can find that so easily. Its fairly easy to get there from Copa. Just take the metro to Uruguiana station (a 25 minute ride), and go to Rua Buenos Aires, 44, some 10 minutes away if you walk. Directions you will find on the forum. But perhaps you've already been there.
So I hope you have time to visit other places in Rio, like 4x4. Otherwise your experience will be limited just to Copa. Copa can be good and copa can be pretty bad as well. But maybe Rio is just not your thing. It's possible.
enjoy,
Dutch44
PS: Just out of curiosity, what is your favorite place, if I may ask?
[quote=lukasek]jamaicanceo,
sorry. too many bad incidents are what? a girl from help that takes cocaine it seems, reading the thread here, something very normal, so no bad incident, but just the routine.
yesterday she got robbed and not me, second it seems to me pretty naive that a brazilian girl dress gold chain and me, turist here, neither a cheap plastic clock. to be robbed if you dress a gold chain here, it is not a incident, but what you deserve. people sleep in the streets, almost no money to eat and then we should be surprised if we got robbed when we show them "food for one month" (a gold chain i suppose is really food for one month for them.). and btw i told her, out of help immediately inside a taxi, she said, i am hungry, lets go there. another paradox a turist that suggest a brazilian girl what to do.[/quote]first, you are traveling to monger territory looking for a girl friend experience.
second, you seem to always talk about help. when i go to rio help is my last option, it's not the best of rio.
help is the fast lane slow poke. get out of the fast lane.
when i do go to help, i've never pulled out a girl who even smokes a cigarette. then i do not let the princesses run the gdp. it seems like you have the gdp backwards. you have the dick, therore, you call the shots. "you don't like me," fuck that!
third, i go to copacabana for easy pussy, and the rest of brazil for brazil, and some pussy too, but not in ground zero. copacabana is not the place for gfe. sometimes you get lucky. on my first-trip i had a nice 18year-old, 5'-8" curvicious gold haired, gold skinned garota, and we communicated with a dictionary and internet cafe online translation. she didn't smoke or drink, and never asked for money. although i did give her some reals because she would travel from botofogo by bus to visit me. but she had a kid like most of the gdp, she was an unemployed manicurist, and she spoke no english. she was great for the first trip, but chemistry or not, are you in rio to fall in love.
maybe if you travel out of copacabana and look for an educated girl who works for some institution and goes to roman catholic church every day of the we, but doesn't mind sucking your dick, taking it in the ass, cim, etc. but not at helpee.
I went to shenanigans a couple of weeks ago to watch the payoffs, its was my first time there. The crowd was good and the food was excellant. However, they had a girl singing with a loud ass guitar during the fucking game!! Even though she was very good, it was annoying as hell! There were even some Americans booing and asking her to shut up, so they could concentrate on the game.
I am headed there again tomorrow for the Super Bowl, hopefully, they wont have any live entertainment during the game.
[quote=].. an educated girl who works for some institution and goes to roman catholic church every day of the we, but doesn't mind sucking your dick, taking it in the ass, cim, etc. but not at helpee.[/quote]
you can find that at helpee, if you are lucky. i did get that lucky a couple of times.:)
out of 12 times at helpeee, 2 bad, 2 so so, and 8 good experiences.
not a bad ratio.
we all have our own gfe and pornstar fantasies.
some mongers need to feel as if they were 'loved' by the gdp.
some of us have been around all that and more, and pay the girls leave at the end, not stay.
[quote=jamaicanceo]maybe if you travel out of copacabana and look for an educated girl who works for some institution and goes to roman catholic church every day of the we, but doesn't mind sucking your dick, taking it in the ass, cim, etc. but not at helpee.[/quote]
you can find that in copa, if you are lucky. i did get that lucky a couple of times.:)
out of 12 times at helpee, 2 bad, 2 so so, and 8 good experiences.
not a bad ratio.
we all have our own gfe and pornstar fantasies.
some mongers need to feel as if they were 'loved' by the cocksucking, ass-licking, cim gdps.
some of us have been around all that and more, and pay the girls to leave at the end, not stay.
whatever floats your boat:)
rio, beginners guide and tips for help - copacabana - january 2009
well.....whatever people think about help, it's there and it does have some advantages too. it's a great disco and the atmosphere can be magic at times.
anyway, because this forum is about 'working girls', i thought i create a short list of information and tips for 'beginners' visiting rio for the first time and going to help. it's based on my own experiences and my point of view and some of you may disagree with it or have additional tips. be my guest. most of what i wrote can be found in bits an pieces on this forum or is just plain obvious for the 'experienced' mongers. but still i hope it may be useful to some.
1) help is easy to find at the avenida atlāntica in copacabana and there are plenty hotels or apartments close to it. any taxi driver will know it. it opens at 23h00 and closes around 04h00 or 05h00. entrance fee before midnight at this moment (january 2009) is 28 r$ and after midnight 38 r$. most people line up and get in just before midnight.
if you get a hotel, make sure you check beforehand that it is girl-friendly. so you can bring someone, without cost, to your room. most hotels will however require the wg to bring her passport and leave it at the reception. when you rent an apartment, make sure it will have a 24 hour doorman (most of them have this) for security. better safe than sorry.
2)in front of help is a verandah where the working girls (wg's or garotas) start gathering from 22h00 onwards. it's fun to watch the scence and have a drink there. there will be a good many wg's that stay at the verandah and dont even go inisde for dancing. once reason being that some of them don't want to invest the entry fee.
3) taking a girl from the help verandah: typically the girls here will accept lower rates than inside. once it gets late (after 02h00) prices will do down. you may be able to find a wg here that agrees to as little as 100r$ for 1 hour. (you pay the taxi on top of that. may be like 20 r$ to copa/ipanema both ways). more common wg rate is r$ 150-200 for 2 hours. be sure to check the wg well, there are some nasty favela girls there that you may not want inside your apartment/hotel causing trouble.
4) taking a wg from inside help (the disco). prices are a little higher, simply because of the entrance fee and the 'investment' the wg's make in their dresses, clothes, jewelry. you will find favela wg's there, but also 'princesses' that wear expensive clothes and want higher fees. typical requested fee may be r$ 300 for 2 hours. but when it's late, this may come down to 200 r$, but usually not much lower. some of the princesses will start with 500 r$ or more. that's way too much. that would be more than a minimum monthly wage in brazil!. unless you don't care about money or ruining the pricing the rest of us, you should not accept it and negotiate it down towards 300 r$ or less, even if the wg princess looks like a supermodel!
5)scanning a wg: this is a very important part and should not be underestimated, including the agreements you make with her.
6) approaching: there will be wg's that approach you, others that only look at you, and some that 'apparently' ignore you. those may be local girls (none wg's) or princesses that demand very high prices because they think they are special. i prefer the ones that look, but dont try to grab me.(and think i'm an easy target) i observe that particularly 40+ year old gringo's give in to these more aggressive ones to easily. it can be hard resist that young fresh, dancing sexy lady that grabs your hand and takes over. i did it once and regretted it.
7) now step by step the approaching process:
tip1: never rush, take your time and speak with the girl, check the chemistry. of course speaking some (minimal) portuguese will be required. most wg's in rio do not speak english or very very little english. if the girl does not speak english and you do not speak portuguese, it will not make things better. perhaps you don't care and just want 60 minutes of 'fast fun'. but it will mean you miss out on most of, it not all, of the gfe. (girlfriend experience)
tip2: do not go with the wg to her own place. always bring her to a safe place that you know and can trust. (like your hotelroom or apartment) at night: always take a taxi. (dont go walking anywhere at night, and that includes the beach) do not take the taxis parked in front of help (they cost 2-3 times more). take only the onces that happen to pass by on the ave. atlantica and have a meter. (tem metro?, do you have a meter?). if no meter, don't get that taxi. fee to most places in copa or ipanema (starting from help) should be around 8-15 r$, depending on distance.
tip2: if the wg wants to rush it, slow her down and say that you are not in a hurry and want to talk or dance a bit. never let her take too much initiative. you are the customer and the customer is king. she should respect that. just as you should respect that she is a person, has feelings too and wants to be treated well.
tip3: make clear agreements about everything. a,the price. b: how long she will stay (best: at what time she will leave your apartment/hotel) the time starts when you enter the room. you could even write all of it on a piece of paper if the communication feels fuzzy. i've seen too many screwups with people that thought that tln (all nights) means many hours, whereas the girl thinks she can leave in 1 hour, because it is already 04h00 in the morning.
tip4: ask here what she does and does not do? faz tudo? (do you do everything?), or you may find out in your hotel that she refuses to do things you like. like 'i dont like to kiss, do bj etc)
tip5: make sure she knows what you like and want to do.
tip6: hygiene: always wear your rubbers. if you like oral, rinse your mouth afterwards with antiseptic mouthwash (like listerine). when she gives you a bbbj, wash your little john with soap and [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url] afterwards. (i'm not a medical doctor, but these tips are just to help protect you. if you want 100% safe sex in rio, stay at home!)
tip6: make sure she knows that you pay here at the end when she leaves and all is done. if not, you may find yourself in a situation where she rushes things and leaves right after you're 'done' (in say 30 minutes), even if you agreed to 2 hours. (because she's already got her money, right?)
tip7: hide expensive stuff, computers, digital cameras and your money, when you bring a help wg in your room. things may 'disappear' if you're not careful. put money in a locker or heavy suitcase.
tip8: when you negotiate, stay friendly with her, but dont be afraid to be very clear. when there is anything you don't like, say it right away. bring it in a diplomatic way, as in: "sorry, we dont fit well together, i hope you will find somebody else". nobody likes to be rejected, including wg's. if you say it this way, she may understand and give in to your wishes and be a fun night afterall. in some cased if the girls likes you, you could spend several nights at reduced rate. don't overpay.
tip9: brazilian women do not like 'weak' men. if you just came in from europe or the usa, as the typical gringo, cave in to her aggressive approach, pay her 500 r$ for 1 single hour and don't speak a single word of portuguese, she will (rightly so) think you are just a stupid gringo. and that's how she will treat you. expect fake moaning (after 10 minutes, pretending she has an orgasm when you just touch her) and expect her trying to 'finish' you with lightning speed. so she can rush back to help and make more money. don't overpay.
tip10: however if you do the scanning well, if you are clear about what you want and pay, negiotiate, speak some portuguese, make some jokes, and treat her with respect, you may find a real gem now and then. even at help. outside help the chances are better though. you may find yourself a steaming hot, lively, funny girlfriend, if only for 1 night or a few hours. you may find yourself wondering how it is possible that such women exist. even if most, if not all of it, is a game, there can be real pleasure and fun in this game. that means for you, and for her.
any questions? don't ask me.....check and read this forum!
enjoy rio and stay safe...
dutch44
[QUOTE=Dutch44]Rio, beginners guide and tips for HELP - Copacabana - January 2009
Dutch44[/QUOTE]
Good post and very informative.
I got into Help last night at about 2 am. There was still plenty of good selections left, when I got there they were all over me like flies on shit, some real nice ones too. I only went in to take in the scene and listen to the music as I already had a full day. I had an escort from CIA-Plus in the afternoon 130 reais plus taxi for 2 hours then I went to a womans house I met on-line and did her for 3 hours so I had my fill.
But I met a nice blond from Santa Catarina in Help that just arrived that day, she came up to earn some money because her beauty salon has economic problems due to the rains they had in Santa Catarina. Price was right and she gave me a topper this afternoon when she left. She was the best of the day.
Now Im going to meet another girl I met on-line and if I can't get her into bed by midnight it will be off to Help again, Saturday night should be a good night.
[QUOTE=Dutch44]Tip4: ask Faz tudo? (do you do everything?)[/QUOTE]
With all the respect due to your Help knowledge, cultural awareness and language skills, "faz tudo ?" is not only gibberish (no subject pronoun) but also not appropriate.
"Voce e completa ?" is the right way to ask a girl if she's willing to do anything (incl. but not only anal).