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I'm glad to see St Maarten now has its own forum board.
Hi to any St Maarten visitors,
I have been marooned here for a few weeks on and off, and I have found the quality of the girls a the seaman's club has improved with a recent bunch of Columbian girls, mostly willing to please and certainly pretty, can say I have had a few pleasurable moments there, amazingly this place is open from about (9am to 2am) how anyone can face it at 9am amazes me, but there you go. a lot of the guys there are filipinos off the cruise ships with little or no maney so when they see a hafl decent looking guy who may have more that $10 in his pocket, you get a better choice.
$40 seems to get you a good time the place is Ok and reasonably clean.
If anyone has got updates on anyother spot in St Maarten or other islands please post, some of us are stuck in the caribbean all winter, and on the other islands the pussy is thin on the ground.
Capt Nemo.
I had similar experience last year at Seamans Club and also about 2 years before that, each time with 20 something Colombian Gal, $40 made them happy.
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On my first trip to Sint Maarten I decided to find some of the brothels mentioned on this board. I was somewhat successful in locating most of the establishments, but became a little confused when trying to find certain places. This report will deal with the location of the brothels in relation to each other, and will hopefully help clarify any confusion other readers may have found. Or perhaps it will only add more confusion. All of the distances mention here are in kilometers (km), since that is what the odometer in my rental car measured. All of the brothels are located on the Dutch side in the southeastern part of the Island, and all are within about 6 or 7 km of each other. I am told that on the French side there are woman available in certain “discos”, but you will need to pay for a hotel room.
Le Petit Château:
This place is located closest to the town of Phillipsburg. It is not on a main road, but on a manmade causeway that extends across the Salt Pond north of town. Directions: Find the traffic light (possibly the only one in Phillipsburg) on Pondfill Road where the Police Station and Government Administration Building are on the Phillipsburg side of the road and the University of St. Martin is on the causeway. Pondfill Road is the road on the north side of town adjacent to and running parallel to the Salt Pond. Your tourist map may list this road as Walter Nisbeth Road. From this light turn onto the causeway, toward the university. The word “UNIVERSITY” is spelled out in three-foot high letters on the ground, and can be seen on the right as you enter the causeway. The beginning of this road is paved, but will turn to dirt and gravel about half way to Le Petit. From the traffic light, Le Petit is 0.4 km. You will pass the Little League Stadium on your right, and you will find Le Petit on your left a little further ahead. I visited this place three times, but only found something I liked on my last trip. The rooms provided here are as clean as most of the other place that I visited. As mentioned elsewhere, mostly locals use this place.
Seaman’s:
This is a very popular place and easy to locate. Directions: From the traffic light mentioned above continue east to the edge of the Salt Pond (about 0.4 km) where you can turn left (north). Although there is no street sign here, the road is commonly called “Suckergarden” Road. Travel north about 1.4 km to Seaman’s. On your way there you will pass a Shell gas station on your left, and pass by numerous houses and buildings. Continue pass the sign welcoming you to the town of Suckergarden and also drive past the signs pointing to St. Martin Park. Just beyond Arch Road, you will find Seaman’s on your left. As mentioned in someone else’s report, Seaman’s is set back from the road and enclosed in a ten foot high wire fence, and looks a little like a Used Car lot with its string of lights. Many tourist visit Seaman’s, and I found the girls here better looking than those in any of the other bars that I visited. The rooms are adequate, and there is some interesting artwork in the hallway leading to the rooms that you may want to view if you’re into that type of thing. It is unlikely, but you may hear some local refer to “The Japanese Place”. If you do, they are referring to Seaman’s. The story I heard was that sometime in the past the place was frequented by many Japanese, so the locals began calling it by that name. Today, crewmembers off the cruise ships come into Seaman’s while they’re in port. The place is decorated with nautical items that give it some character.
Defiance/Kappers:
The next bar is locater 1.5 km north of Seaman’s on the same road. That is to say Suckergarden Road. On the way there you will be traveling mostly uphill, and will be passing by many houses and buildings. Be careful, the roads are fairly narrow and very winding. It would be a bad idea to drive these roads while under the influence. Defiance is located at the top of a hill and you will come upon it very rapidly because it is located around a right bend in the road. Just before you get to the top of the hill, you will see a self-service carwash on the left. At first I thought it was a gas station. You are then suddenly on the top of the hill and Defiance is on your right. On the outside there is not a sign saying “Defiance”; however, there is a small sign on the outside of the complex that reads “Kappers”. Kappers is actually a small café within the complex, but not attached to the bar. The complex is enclosed within a stonewall, and you must drive through the arched entrance. Park inside the courtyard, and you will see a two-story building where the club is located, and a building in the back left side that was once a hotel. The second floor above the club was used as dance hall called the “Crystal Club”, and the sign is still on the entranceway. You need to walk up a set of stairs on the right and enter through a set of double doors. Many non-locals visit this place and I found the selection of girls to be good. I believe that the Defiance was once a hotel where mongers could pay to stay on the premises. I wonder if this is still possible? The rooms here are quite clean.
Sunset Retreat:
Leaving Defiance and turning left back onto the major road (Suckergarden) it will be another 1.5 km to the next brothel/bar. As soon as you leave Defiance heading north, you start to go down hill. You are traveling toward Oyster Pond and Dawn Beach, and should follow the signs leading in that direction. Stay on the main road. Do not turn off. After a short distance you will enter an area void of any buildings and you will pass through some pasturelands. When you have traveled the 1.5 km from Defiance you will see a yellow colored building sitting on a ridge adjacent to and on the right side of the road. There is a stonewall surrounding the ridge that the building sits on. You will also see a billboard with a woman and the words “Sunset Retreat”. You will also see what appears to be a narrow driveway leading up the right side of the building. Do not drive up this road. The parking lot for Sunset Retreat is located just past the billboard on the left side of the road, and when you are in the parking lot you will see a stairway leading up to the bar. I visited this place only once, and I found an attractive companion, but she had an attitude that I could have done without. The place also seems to be popular with locals. There is one more piece of important information regarding the name of this place. I understand that the owner’s name is Angel Priest, and I heard more than one local refer this place as “Angel Priest”.
Casa Blanca/Border Bar
This seems to be the most talked about place on this island. It is located only 0.5 km further north on the road to Oyster Pond. This is still the same road you started out on in Phillipsburg. In fact, if you reach Oyster Pond you’ve gone too far. I think it was said that you couldn’t miss seeing this place. Well, I missed it. As reported, it’s a large white building that sits back from the road and also well above the road, with the words “Casa Blanca” written on it’s side in large red letters. I missed it because I was paying close attention to where I was going and not looking around. If you approached it from the French side (heading south) it would be difficult not to see. Casa Blanca and Border Bar have been reported as separate bars, but both a taxi driver and the security guard in the parking lot told me that Casa Blanco is also known as the Border Bar because it’s almost on the border with the French side. Standing in their parking lot you can see the border at the bottom of the hill. If someone knows otherwise, place inform us. I visited this place three or four times from late afternoon to midnight over a three-day period, but never found someone I desired. This surprised me due to all the good things I had read about the place. They do have a restaurant within, and it seems very clean. The only other thing I can report about Casa Blanca is that both locals and non-locals patronize this place.
714
This is a small brothel/bar located very close to Seaman’s. A taxi driver showed this place to me. Directions from Seaman’s: When leaving Seaman’s turn right toward Phillipsburg and go to Arch road (0.1 km) and make a right turn. Go down Arch Road for about 0.3 km and make a left hand turn. There is a market and bar on the left corner called “New Era”. Just as you make the turn you should see the 714 about fifty feet ahead of you on the right side. 714 is a single story orange colored building with a green roof. The number 714 is on the side of the building in large numbers. Locals mostly patronize this place, but a few of the patrons were non-locals. I found a couple of cuties here and decided to allow one of them to take me into one of the back rooms. Unfortunately, the room was a disgusting dump. I’ve only seen such filth in a few Mexican border brothels. Because of the condition of the rooms, I do not recommend this place.
Unknown Place
While investigating 714, I noticed what appeared to be an eatery in the building across the street. The right portion of the building is two stories, and the left portion is single story. The right side has glass windows on both floors, and the left has a stone finish. The restaurant is on the right side of the building that can be entered through a double glass door. I did not notice any signs in the window; however, it is a restaurant because they served me. On the left side of the building is a salon. In front of the building, in the center, you'll see another door and a water fountain with a child holding a water jar. To the left of the fountain you’ll see another door. Use this door to enter both the salon and the disco. In other words, the disco is inside the building between the restaurant and the salon. The only other clients in the restaurant while I was there were four Latin women that looked by the way they dressed like prostitutes. I then heard loud “disco” music coming from a room adjacent to the room I was in, and decided to see what was in there. I discovered that the room was a disco, and was told that things in there really did not start until after 11:00 PM. Later the evening I re-entered the disco, but found only about two girls and about four guys inside. It is your typical disco with the loud music, dance floor, and the rotating colored lights. There is also a small bar. The bouncer invited me to sit down, but I told him that I was only there to take a look around. Hearing that, he offered to take me on a tour of the place. After briefly showing me the small disco, he invited me to view the back rooms and explained that the girls here were available. In the back, there is another small bar with couches. A little further back in the building are the girl’s rooms. The one I saw was in somewhat better shape than those I had seen in other places. Because there were not many girls there when I visited, and because I got the impression by the nicely decorated disco, back bar, and rooms that the prices there would be “too” high, I decided not to stay. I then tipped the bouncer and went on my way. However, I do hope that some adventurous *****monger will investigate this place further and give us a report. By the way, the bouncer’s name was Tony. He told me that the name of the place is ”Crystal Club” and that it had only been opened for about a month. What the relationship between the place named “Club Crystal” located above the Defiance bar and this disco is unknown to me. Maybe it has just been relocated.
714 and Unknown are located at the northern end of the casueway that I mentioned above. If you drive south pass 714 and Unknown on to the dirt road and through the landfill, you will reach Le Petit in about three or four minutes. The first time you try this should be during daylight hours only.
what are the prices seems like 40 bucks the normal price. will do a week on th e dutch side in aug.
I am likely heading down to St Maarten (for the first time) with my Dad for a week, then I will be on my own for a second week. He wants to stay at the new "Royal Islander La Terrasse" and it looks nice so I guess that is fine with me. It looks more like a timeshare (all suites) than a hotel, so that could be advantageous.
My questions are:
1. Do the hotels normally let you bring chicas back to your room?
2. Does anyone know this hotel and where is it in relation to the "Hotspots"? I know I need to look at a map, but I will get to that later in the week.
3. Do any "available" girls hang out in the clubs or discos around Maho Village area?
I will likely sample some of the brothels listed here (thanks LOADS to all the contributors!) but I usually like to end up with one girl for the majority of my time. I find I get better service in the end (GFE).
Any and all info is appreciated!
Will
Freewilly,
I can only answer the second question. Maho Bay is located on the Southwest part of the island and the "hotspots" are located on the Southeast side of the island. If you don't hit thick traffic, you should easily reach any of the brothels/bars within a 20 to 30 minute drive. It's best to rent a motor vehicle.
I'm happy to finally contribute to the conversation here.
To answer the question of Vagringo, the going rate is typically $40 at most bars, although some of the women will try to start you at $50, $60, or even $70. In the slow months, April-October, you can sometimes bargain down to $30. I normally do that and then tip $10 if she's fun.
I've also had two women for $70. This is actually not the greatest deal since you only get a CBJ from one women and only sex from the other (with condom of course). However, I get a kick out of fondling (and being fondled) by one woman while having sex with another woman.
I advise you to take your time and enjoy the sales pitches of the different women as they press and rub to encourage you to think with your lower brain.
You ABSOLUTELY need a car if you're going to monger.
You will sometimes see some pros at regular hotspots and casinos. The pros will normally dress a little flashier than the casual vacationers or residents. I found one conspicuously-unattached woman at a late-night place called the Merengue Bar. She gave serious eye-contact, and after I offered her a ride, she asked if I wanted company.
For the most part, I would not expect much from the strip clubs. CATS is a strip club that also offers extra services, but it's primarily a ripoff. As with the other places, it is kind of fun to have the women try to work you for money. They also like to rub you a bit as they make their pitch.
Lastly (for now), I'd avoid the "gentlemen's" strip clubs like the Platinum room, unless you enjoy spending $20 for table dances. The women look great, but I can get $20 table dances from great looking women in the states.
Hey guys,
Please forgive me for failing to tell where I got my $70 two-fer.
I did this at Seaman's Club. I was also offered this at the Casa Blanca. You can probably do this at other spots as well.
Well back on the island after a couple of months absents, actually I was in Belize & Mexico, but that’s another story & another board.
For anyone who is thinking of coming over to the island, give me an IM; I can properly give you up-to-date info.
If you just want to read the posts then I recommend El Puteros' post on 3/27/04, one of the best and comprehensive breakdowns of the action on the island. Quodos to you man, maybe next time you’re on the island we should hook up for a nite out on the town?
Just returned from my favorite little island.
I discovered a new place. Actually, I found a couple of places, but would only recommend one. I THINK that the name of the place is "The Castle". If you are returning to Phillipsburg from the main drag of brothels, it woud be off the first street on the right after passing the Seaman's Club. Again, heading back to Phillipsburg, you turn right, and then left at the next street. "The Castle" is on your left, and a more seedy "club" is on your right.
Funny thing about the The Castle is that when I walked in, I initially thought that I made a mistake and ended up in a gay bar. I saw nothing but guys seated at tables, and a few of them were dancing. They looked to be locals. After a few dances......
Just kidding.
After a few seconds I backed out of the door, and as I was walking out, I saw a guy walking back in with a very attractive woman. I decided to give it a few minutes and a few more really attractive women trickled in from the back area. They were 7-9s in my opinion. One looked like a white Angela Devi (if you don't know her try Google). The girls were white and probably Columbian. There were still only about 6 workers there, and more than 20 guys. Most of the girls were only paying attention to what appeared to be regulars. I tried to make eye contact and didn't get much attention in return. I wasn't all that interest in doing business, but wanted to at least find out about the place to share info with my brethren here.
Finally a nice looking brown complexioned woman came out from the back (what I was looking for that night). She was from the DR (another preference). After a minute of broken spanish conversation she informed me that the rate was cinquenta or 50. I told her that I only had 30. She thought for a second, and said ok.
When we walked into the back, we appeared to walk into the lobby of a defunct Blue Skye Hotel. The woman at the "front desk" gave her a stare when the girl told her 30. She said something about more money for the room. I dug in my pockets for another 6 bucks and told them that was all that I had, grateful that they didn't see me quickly shift a $50 to another pocket.
The sex was okay. I've had worse, but have definitely had better from providers. She gave me one of the shortest CBJs I've ever had. I could have held my breath for the duration. We went through a few different positions and after a bit of urging from her I shot my load. It was somewhat rushed.
As I was getting dressed, I saw a sign in the door telling patrons that if they kept a girl longer than 25 minutes, they might be asked to pay more.
Quick note on the seedy place across the street. They were all black girls, and while I actually prefer that, they were all pretty heavy or otherwise not attractive. I didn't get a name for the place.
Last note. I did the tour of the places that me and others have discussed in previous posts. I did get an interesting offer of "fuckee-suckee very good" for only $20 from a woman at Le Petite Chateau. She had a nice body, and a decent mug, but didn't fit what I was looking to do that night. However, that's proof that in the slow season, you don't have to pay a lot to have some fun.
Hope this helps guys. Happy mongering.
great info guys.
can anyone recommend a hotel with high speed internet access in the room and not too far from the action?
allthough there is high speed internet on the island, both wireless and dsl. i do not thik there are any hotels that have it available in the rooms. and definatly not anywhere near the action that i think you are looking for.
islandnick
St. Maarten Report
Just got back from one week trip to St. Maarten trip. Went to seamen's club. I was pleasantly surprised of the talents they had. When you walk into the place, there were 4 -5 girls waiting for you outside and greet you. one girl caught my eye and had a chat with her for about 5 minutes and asked her to go to the room. She asked for $40. I agreed and went back to a hall way full of rooms on each side. Went into the small room with queen size bed. it was ok overall. Hey, for $40. full service, it was tyhe best.
The girl I've picked was from ??? ( forget ) she was about mid 20's and had a beautiful face with 34b chest and nice butt. She started with CBJ and than cowgirl and finished with doggy.
It was the best fuck I've had for $40.
It was the best little *****house in st. Maarten. I did drove by the Le petit Chateau but deiced not to go in , because there were some not so nice people hanging around in front.
Anyway, I wished I had gone to Seamen's club more than once because there were some good looking chicas there.
Asian Shark
ps: I'm sorry to have missed you IslandNick
Any suggestions on Hotels?
Thanks
Hay Asian,
Sorry we did not connect, you have my #, ifyour over again give me a call.
Islandnick
jimmy try in phillips burg that is where all the action
is. I would say a chica freindly place is about 50 bucksstay away from the french side they use the euro. this place that has not been exploited yet. I was also there week and besides getting lost if you stay on sucker garden road seamans,defiance,and? beach are all in 1/2 mile radius since you are like me and like morenos there are alot of girls from dr and columbia.they start about $45 but you can get 20 min for around $30 that is the cheapest. the island was fun stay away from the nude beach its gross that is on the french side. I will not preach but the roads are realy curvy try not to be a lush if you can rent a car. taxis are too much. there is not much takeout except maybe the local stripclubs that is about $100 near the airport.
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jimmy try in phillips burg that is where all the action
is. I would say a chica freindly place is about 50 bucksstay away from the french side they use the euro. this place that has not been exploited yet. I was also there week and besides getting lost if you stay on sucker garden road seamans,defiance,and? beach are all in 1/2 mile radius since you are like me and like morenos there are alot of girls from dr and columbia.they start about $45 but you can get 20 min for around $30 that is the cheapest. the island was fun stay away from the nude beach its gross that is on the french side. I will not preach but the roads are realy curvy try not to be a lush if you can rent a car. taxis are too much. there is not much takeout except maybe the local stripclubs that is about $100 near the airport.
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Basically a four day three night trip would do the trick?
Hey Jimmy,
See you are thinking of coming down to this part of the world. As Vagringo says Philipsburg is the area to find the action. His comments about the road and prices are pretty accurate.
The accommodation is were it all falls down, trying to find decent room that are chica friendly can be a problem in Philipsburg. There are places for that money, but I personally would not stay in them. Possibly a time-share or holiday apartment might be a better bet.
Roads can be a but tricky, but a rented car is a necessity.
You can get a take-out, if you pay a bar fine usually about $60-$70, plus what ever the girl asks for.
If you’re coming over drop me PM, maybe we could hook up for a party one nite.
This is my favourite island in the Caribbean. High standard appartments hotels at marvelous beaches with cristal clear water (my suggestion, head for Orient Beach, known as the Saint Tropez of the Carribean), very fine dining (try the Astrolabe at Orient Beach), Casinos everywhere on the dutch side, very nice beach bars with life music (watching the airplanes landing right above the beach at the Sunset Bar is a must), and extended night life.
When I'm on business (yes, they pay me to go to that place!), I usually start the evening with my business relations at the Platinium, a sophisticated strip club at Maho Beach. Real beautifull girls with lap dance 20$. This allows me to check if I can bring them further to the brothels. Well, most of the time it is.
As it is very well described on a precedent report, they are all on the same track. It starts on the North part of Pillisburg, on the road along the salt Pond. At a red light, you'll notice a building with "University" spelled on in. Just take that road. After a few 100m, it becomes a sand road. On your right you will see a stadium, on your left you have "Le Petit Chateau". Go further untill the road starts again to become asfalted. Again on your left you will have "Club 714". At the T crossing go right untill you cross again the main road between Pillipsburg and Oyster Pond. Take this road left, toward Oyster Pond. After 100m, you willl find on your left side "Seamens Club". Continuing on the road towards Oyster Pond, you will find just after having past a top "Kapper Bar" or "Defiance" on your right hand. Further on the road downhill you will have on your right "Sunset Bar". Continue straight on and just before Oyster Pond on a hill at the right side "Casablanca" or "Border Bar".
You are free to enter and to exit of all these bars without paying anything (drinks starts from 2$). So feel free to check them all and make your own opinion. My opinion is allready settled.
Club 714, Le Petit Chateau, Kapper Bar are cattering more for locals. Don't feel unconfortable being the only white guy, as we are in Carribean. Most of the time as it will be noticed that you are alone, somebody will offer you a drink. But for the action you are looking for, it is not worth. A few Dominican girls, overaged and/or overweighted (rate 3-5).
Casablanca is really big with nice facilities (including a restaurant) and may be 30 girls. Most are from Dominican Republic. But sorry, I don't like it. I rate the girls 3-6, with most 4. I found their attitude also too aggressive, a lot of hassling. I never found anything, so I can not even describe you what happens after in the rooms.
In fact, my favourite club is by far Seaman's Club. About 25 girls, mostly from Colombia age 20-30 most 25, and rated 5-8, most 7.
But I'll make a special report about it.
To complete the scene, there is also a swingers Club on the french side (Selena), you can find the info on the web, but I have no experience.
Here my report about my 24H experience in Seamens Club.
My flight was delayed for a day, so I decided to check for a hotel room and head for my favourite place. In fact, I started with the second one. 11 am, Seamans Club was just opening.
Somebody couldn't understand why this place was open so early. Well, in fact it catters for seamens. As most are now from cruise ships, these ships only stay during daytime. And fore those who are not alone during their stay, it is more easy to escape an hour or two during day time than during night time.
Somebody reported also that he dared not to enter due to the bad guys in front of the door. Well, in fact these bad guys are only taxi drivers waiting for customers. This club is very safe.
I like the atmosphere of this bar. Inside, you have some sea related items, reminding you the name of the place. During day time, there are only 5 to 10 chicas, and as much customers. During night time, there are around 25 to 30 chicas and 30 to 40 customers. The chicas are aged 20-25 and rated 5-8. There is a wide diversity under the customers: japanese and filipino seamens, black locals, white tourists, latinos, you name it. There is always some nice music, mostly latin music, as the lady behind the bar is from Dominican Republic.
The atmosphere is very relaxed, no hassling from the girls, no bad behaviour from the customers. I even noticed several local groups (white french from the french side) accompanied with their wife or girl friend pass along having a drink. It is true, their is really a nice atmosphere, something like the bar in the music clip from Justin Cimberlake.
I stayed all day long, and all night, till 3pm closing time, forgetting I had no hotel room booked. During the evening, there is a snack opening at the parking where you can eat some snacks. Appart from the sessions, I chatted, with the chicas, training my spanish skills, and trying to get to know all of them. Well, I had some really good time. If you are sincere with them, they open really their heart. One chica gave me some dance lessons, so I learned the difference between Cuban son, Domincan Merengue and Bachata, and Colombian Salsa. Another chica helped me by sewing my pant's in her room.
With my broken spanish, I still learned a lot about the chicas. Most are from Colombia (especially Cali), and some from Dominican Republic. They are on 3 month contract (for visa reasons). They work hard in order to bring back money to their family. Most have everyday telefone contact with their family in Columbia, as it is their only motivation. When I asked one of the cicas why I didn't see here during daytime, she told me she went shopping for bringging bach gifts to her family as it was her last days. I noticed also most have a child, although none of them dare to speak about boy friend or husband.
During their stay, the chicas live two in one AC room, every room having one large bed. The shower and WC is shared by two room. Lunch and dinner is offered in the kitchen area (not allowed for customers). The chicas are not allowed to get out, or they have to pay a fine at the bar, the same you have to pay to get her out (45$). At 9pm, they must be there, as they have to register themselves in a book at the bar. If you are at that moment at the bar, you are sure to see all of them.
The going rate is 40$ for 20 min BJ and FS protected. You may get down the price to 30$. Escort is also possible. Day escorting starting from 11 am till 9pm (as they must be back again at 9pm) or eevneing escorting from 9pm to 3 pm. Starting price is 300$, but you may get it down to 100$. You have to pay the bar fine (45$) seperately from the chica. I once managed to get a chica out for 50$ durying day time, as she just arrived and was currious to look around the island. But most of the time, she just will calculate the money she would have earned by staying at the club. The 8 rating chicas willl not go for 100$.
I noticed even a very nice looking chica (age 20 rate 9) I could never catch for a session. She was only doing escort. I saw here leaving at 11am escorting a middle east looking customer, and again at 9pm for a short period before leaving again alll the night for escort. I saw the customer paying everytime something that looks like 300$.
During all the time I tried to break my personal record (5 sessions in FKK), and managed to reach 6 times. Two of these sessions where disappointing. It was not due to the chicas attitude, but I was disappointed by their bodys, even if they had nice faces. My advise is to check their body first through the clothes durying the catting at the bar. Two sessions where the classical sessions you may get. The girls had nice firm bodys. They had a kind attitude. No time hassling, and ready to do what you want, but without passion. BJ and FS covered.
One session was really nice, about what you may get in german FKK. The chica was 22 rate 8, nice face, long blond hair, firm body, soft light skin. There was a good chemistry, she did also BBBJ and passionate kissing.
But my last session was a real GFE. It was nearly closing time. As I had allready chatted with nearly all the chicas, I noticed one shy chica, petite and very young looking. I didnt see here having a lot of customers, as she didn't try to get any attention from any customer. I started to chatt with here. She seemed very surprised that I was interested in her. I may be better looking than most of the seamens present that night. Whe chatted a while, my hands around here wheist. I checked , and yes, she had a real firm body with nice curves. I noticed she could get her eyes out of mine. After some time, whe went to her room, as it was close to closing time.
I looked at hear when she undressed, and again I noticed a strange thing for a pro: she seemed unconfortable undressing herself. In fact, I think she was afraid I would have been disappointedas I discovered her very small breast. In fact, I was really not disappointed, as I discovered hear teenage looking body. She looked may me 16, but she told me she was 22.
I tried to relax her with long prelimenary. I started kissing, and she answered very passionate. I checked her pussy, and felt it became weater and weater. She noticed that my dick was somewhat harmed, as she had also noticed my multiple sessions before. So she started with a real smooth BBBJ. She finished by putting the condom with her mouth. I started to penetrate her, and discovered how narrow she was. So I entered also very smoothly, kissing her at the same rythm. I then suddenly noticed that her body was moving as she was really enjoying it.
I then did what I never do with paid sex, I tried to concentrate myself on her pleasure, not on mine. I waited, untill she came, before unloading. She came really, I noticed it inside her pussy. I know what you are thinking guys, but this time is was true, no fakking. I have had a lot previous experiences, including very nice GFE in the world best places (dutch and australian brothels, german FKK, Dominican Republic...) It just happened me once, wich statistically is not impossible. Sex workers are also human beings with feelings.
When we finished, she told me she really came, and made me feel her wet pussy, just for proof. She explained that I really found the right way to make love. When a pro tells this to you, comparing you to the hundreds of customers she had before, it makes your ego getting very high. But in fact, it's just a matter of chemistry. I know I have been also very disappointing for a lot of others.
She asked me when I came back. I'm sure I could have asked her to stay the night in her bed, as her room mate left the day before.
But I choosed to continue my night somewhere else. I finished til 5 pm at Casablanca, wich again disappointed me a lot. I took an early breakfast and went to the beach. I then went to check for my airplane. As it was allready 11am, I decided to head again for Seamans Club. Not again for a session, but just because I knew everybody there.
The chicas where surprised to find me back again. One chica noticed I have had no sleep and no shower. So she brought me to her room for a shower. After the shower she told me I could rest a bit in her bed, wich I did, till my airplane departure.
Guys, once again: treat the chicas well, and respect them. Not only because in return you will get a much better service. But because they deserve it...
My experience in St. Maarten Dutch side was similar to others who have posted recently. At Seaman's twice, I had girls who didn't have the bodies I thought they had before they undressed. I guess there is really no good way to know. One cost me $50 including tip, the other $40 including tip.
I apparently had a better time at Le Petit than most. I didn't see anything I liked the first night, but when I went back later I found a tall light-skinned Columbian who cost me only $35 including tip, plus the $3 for the room.
Finally, the disaster of the trip was at Sunset, where I found this 19-year-old with a beautiful little body, but with a pussy so tight there was nothing I could do, including plenty of lube, to penetrate her. And I was hard as a rock. I gave up trying and she jerked me off, but she didn't even do that very well. She got $20 and no tip. The place smelled like a barnyard. Definance/Kappers, where I turned down a girl who wanted $50, wasn't much better.
After awhile, I'm beginning to wonder whether 20 minutes of suck and fuck with women you can hardly communicate with is really worth the low price.
Jm clean
I agree, it helps a lot being able to communicate in Spanish. Attitude and service depend a lot on the feeling you create with the chicas. Some are probably not real pros, but only part time pros when on contract abroad. Some seem even to be very new in the business (just my opinion). My spanish is very poor also, read a spanish phrase book before, and try to remember the most usefull sentences. Check for example on the Argentina section for some usefull sentences. It's enough to break the ice. The chicas will help you for the rest.
For info on my previous detailed review about the Seamen's club, the bar fine to get the chica out has increased from 45$ up to 60$.
Yes, I was there once again. Some of the chicas from the previous time where still there. It was nice getting in that bar and being allready familiar with some chicas. For them, as they were getting at the end of their contract, their main concern was to book a flight back to Colombia. The main airline for this route is DCA (Dutch Caribbean Airline) with a stop over in Curaçao. DCA is not a reliable airline. I helped the chicas and went together with them at the travel agency in Phillipsburg (in order for me also to rest between two sessions).
About the sessions, I was very lucky, because I found back that very nice looking 9 rated chica (see my previous report) that I couldn't get for a session, as she was everytime busy on daily escort. It was also her last days. We had first a nice chatt while drinking on the bar. Following my previous advise, I checked her body through the clothes before. But it didn't take me long to convince me she really had that 9 rated body I imagined. I couldn't wait longer (I was allready waiting for 2 month hoping to see her again), so we went to the room.
Once in the room, she undressed, and I discovered really her 22 aged perfectly firm and body. She untighed her long black hair. When we where both standing naked face to face, I touched her very smooth skin while looking into her very nice eyes. She smiled, seeing me so horny. I started to kiss her, she answered (not all the chicas kiss at Seamens Club). Luckily, she also let me all the time to discover her body before putting on the condom.
May be thanks to those long prelimenaries, she din't have to put some lube. We started to have sex, and again, I discovered that luckily she was very narrow. As it was my second session, I managed to stay a long time and have multiple positions.
All in all, a very nice session with the most beautifull chica I've met at St Martin. But not a real GFE, even if service was very good. If I had the same chemistry as with the one I had previously a GFE (see my previous report), it would have been one of my best experience, similar to some I've had at german FKK.
I spent the last week of October in St. Maarten. After reading many of the reports Seaman's Club looked like my best bet because of the time of day I could play. I went twice both times around noon. Had a quick pickup both times. I found it a great experience. The girl both times were very hot and nice. Both times there was no negotiating on price. Great time and then settled up afterwards for $40.
I noticed when I was leaving the second time a decent number of white girls (4 or 5) from reports I didn't expect that and would have maybe taken a spin. Does anyone know the orgins of the white girls (Nick?)
I recommend to all!
The white girls are also from Colombia. I agree, some are really light skinned, blond colored hair, you might think they are white. But they are are all latina's.
I may be heading to St Maartin in early Jan. When did the new girls arrive and are they going to be there in Jan?
JL
I'm in SXM now on business. I've had a chance to stop by both Seamans Club and Defiance/Kappers. Both were great. I met Angelique at Seamans and Joanna at D/K, their rates were $50 which was a bargain compared to US prices. Both places were pretty clean, Seamans was a little better. Both had a good selection of chicas, D/K was better. Drinks were cheap and the session was awesome in both cases.
I drove by Le Petite, forget it, not worth the effort.
Joe
Most of the houses have a regular turn over. Girls get a 3 month visa, and arrive 2's & 3's. So there are allways new girls arriving, which is great if you live on the island.
Islandnick
Suckergarden - it was a dark and stormy night.
What a great name for a brothel district. Someone had a real sense of humor. My first visit to these places was at night during a storm. I was having trouble just staying on the road, let alone finding anything. Fortunately, I had the descriptions of the area posted by El Putero. They were dead on accurate and precise. Even when I couldn’t see 50 ft in any direction, his instructions were so specific that I was able to find the places I was looking for, and some of them would have been difficult in daylight. Great work EP.
Le Petit. This place was in the middle of a shallow lake. I suppose it might be considered a road and parking lot by some. I came real close to getting stuck in the mud more than once. Worse, it wasn’t worth the trip. There weren’t many girls, and the best I saw was a 6, maybe. Only went once, no sale.
Seamans, Defiance-Kappers, Sunset Bar, Casablanca-Border Bar. These 4 places are all on the same road. I stopped in each a few times. I had expected holes-in-the-wall and was surprised at how large these places are. Casablanca is one of the largest brothels I’ve ever seen. While they are all certainly different, from a practical standpoint, I found 3 of them to be very similar. The one exception was the Sunset Bar. It was a bit smaller, with a somewhat limited selection. The one time I went in, I felt a little uncomfortable. Nothing obvious, but seemed more like a locals hangout. Nothing like that problem in the other places. Of course, ymmv. The girls at all the places seemed to be from Columbia or the Dom. Rep. Some English, but the more Spanish you know, the better. The pricing and services offered were pretty much the same. Was mostly quoted $45 for standard session, generally negotiable to $35. The ratio of attractive/unattractive seemed pretty similar. The number of chicas went from about 20 to 50 or 60. Each had shows of one kind or another. Each had a mix of locals and obvious tourists.
As above, the girls all seem to be recruited from off island. My impression was that this resulted in pretty hard core pros. The service was enjoyable, usually fun, but businesslike. Secretaries trying to supplement their income, first timers, semi-pros not likely to get recruited. If you are expecting more of a gfe it seems unlikely here.
Maho Bay - the other end of the island.
Platinum - Snooty strip joint, maybe 15-25 girls. $10 cover. Talked to girls from Romania, Czech Rep., Hungary, Russia. Far as I could tell all the girls in this place were from eastern Europe, all very attractive or better. Most spoke some English. Strip show was run like an assembly line, very stately and distant. Amazing contrast to the latina dancers at the brothels. Only thing quoted to me was $30 - 1 song private dance. Since I knew what was available 20 minutes away I passed, but there was no shortage of takers while I was there. I got the impression that a more complete rental could be available outside the club with some of the girls, but I doubt it would be a bargain.
Casino Royale. As far as I could see, this is the only casino on the island (there are many) that has a craps table. Therefore, the only one that deserves to be called a casino.
Nice Post Hardbarg. I agree with all of your assessments. The Princess Casino has Craps too, but doesn't seem to get the crowd and I prefer Casion Royale as well. Last year was my year to really check out the brothel situation and look forward to my annual trip next October.
first trip also to St. Maarten Dutch side.
visited Seamans club and was disappointed. trashy hell hole bar like in Mexico.
continued up the hill on the same road and visited the girls at the large compound, I think it was Defiance. Met a nice cutie from Colombia and a few other skanks. Did the Colombian. Was the highlight of the trip.
Drove past Sunset but it looked too disgusting to go in.
Overall the prices are quite high on the island for hotel, food, entertainment, due to all the time share and casinos.
Not a good place for mongering.
If you speak spanish and want cute Colombian girls, I recomment Cartagena. Only a 2 1/2 hour flight from Miami and alot cheaper.
[QUOTE=Npaul]first trip also to St. Maarten Dutch side.
visited Seamans club and was disappointed. trashy hell hole bar like in Mexico.
continued up the hill on the same road and visited the girls at the large compound, I think it was Defiance. Met a nice cutie from Colombia and a few other skanks. Did the Colombian. Was the highlight of the trip.
Drove past Sunset but it looked too disgusting to go in.
Overall the prices are quite high on the island for hotel, food, entertainment, due to all the time share and casinos.
Not a good place for mongering.
If you speak spanish and want cute Colombian girls, I recomment Cartagena. Only a 2 1/2 hour flight from Miami and alot cheaper.[/QUOTE]Npaul, Seamans Club was initially setup to cater to Chinese fishermen who had a 2 weeks break on the Island after spending 3 to 4 months at sea.
Now with the huge amount of Cruise ships visiting the Island this place has been turned into the watering hole of the crewmembers of these ships.
It is obvious that these guys do not have alot of time to spend on shore and therefore do not require 5 star accomodations when busting a nut.
Why didn't you take one of the girls back to your hotel? It is a known fact that you will find the best girls in the Seamans Club.
As for the other places, they cater more to the locals and stay-over tourists who obviously require better accomodations. ( An exeption would be Sunset Bar)
Was once again in Sint Maarten. I wrote previously very positive reports about Seamen's Club. Well, this time I was disappointed about the line up. the average level had decreased to 4-7. Yes, it may be hit and miss, as the girls change very 3 month.
I stayed for a while, and discovered finally an 8 level (I will not go beyond that level anymore). She was a petite 23 years old Columbiana, long hair and an incredible body. I started to chat with her, there was a good chemistry, and after a while went to the room. When she udressed, I discovered a 9+ body. Incredible, 9+ because she admitted that her C breast was not natural. Else it would have been a 10! She had a very soft light coloured and nice smelling skin, very firm well curved body.
I started to kiss her (this is usually not standard, but if chemistry is OK, they never refused to me). After some hassless preleminaries, she wanted to put some lub. I stopped her, saying I would act very gentle and started to wet her with my tongue. Yes, this was quite risky in such place, but I noticed before she had a nice smell. And her pussy tasted OK. This made her getting very horny. I started intercourse very softly, and indeed she was very narrow. I continued slowly untill I felt that she was getting wet enough. We were both getting more and more horny, and changed several times our position. I finiched on doggy-style.
Yes, this was again a very good session, even if my overall impression about Seaman's Club is not as good as before.
During this last visit, I noticed a white lady coming out of the office, the kind of one you won't expect in such place. One of the chicas explained me that she is the manager in charge (the owner itself is a guy from St Maarten, but you will never see him there). She takes great care about the chicas. This explains may be why the atmosphere is much more relaxed here than in the other clubs.
Payed again a visit to Casablanca, as it is the only one that remains open late at night. Again, my overal impression was rather bad, like my previous reports. Yet for the first time, I noticed an 8 rated girl in Casablanca. She was the only Colombiana, as all others where Dominicanas. She was petite, very light skinned. I tried to get some chemistry with her, but she was quite agressive, like all the others from Casablanca.
As I never tried before any girl in Casablanca, decided to make a try anyway. I discovered how things go in Casablanca when going to the room. You have to pay 45$ or 45€ (it's better to pay in dollar of course) through a small window, before you are allowed to enter the bedroom area with the girl. Rooms are airconditionned, have a bathroom and are rather clean. The sex was nothing to write home about it. Will not come back, and skip to my favorite Seamens Club.
Latinas are sexy, sensual, passionate and sensitive. That's why the experience you will get with a chica depends largely of the chemistry you will be able to build up with her. Speaking Spanish is mandatory, else you will probably be disappointed. If you don't speak Spanish, find hereafter a usefull "phrasebook".
You enter the club, and usually the less beautifull girls will come approach before you got the time to look around with a clear "Fucky fucky". Even if she is an ugly barrakuda, never be rude with a girl offering you actually sex! Decline politely but firmly: "No, gracias". She will usually insist, so answer you want to rest before: "Qiero descansarme". She will insist asking why: "Porque?". Answer because you are tired "Porque estoy cansado". If she insists by you don't want girls? "No quiro Chicas?" answer this time you want a girl, but a girl in particular: "Quiero una chica, pero une chica en particular". This is usually very effective.
Take a beer at the bar by asking: "Quiro una cerbeza" or if you prefer Coca Cola "Quiero una Coca Cola". Ask the price "Cuanto es?". Please at least try to learn from a phrasebook to count till 100. You will need this everytime.
Have a look around, and as usual the most beautiful girls will not approach you. Do it yourself with this magical sentence:"Olah chica!". If you recognize her from the last time, say you are happy to see her again: "Me alegro de verte".
If it is the first time start the usual introducting questions. What's you're name: "Como te llamas?" My name is..."Me llamo...", How old are you "Cuanto anos tienes?" I'm ... "Tengo..anos" Again you need to count till 100 (well I hope to less). Where do you come from :" De Donde eres?" She will usually reply she is from Colombia "Soy de Colombia" and you will answer "Soy de ...".
Try to compliment her. I know, it sounds bullshit to you, but believe me any woman in world, even SW love to hear compliments. If it looks difficult to you, just imagine that everytime you give a compliment, her pussy is getting wet. Do it before, during and even after sex, unless you are just looking for quick sex. I'm presuming here that you are looking for GFE sex.
Your eyes turn me crazy "Tus oyos me vuelven loco"
You are the most beautiful girl here "Eres la chica mas guapa de aqui" At least I hope this is true, if you find another girl more beautiful, then go to see her.
I like your smile "Me gusta to sonrisa"
I like your perfume "Quiero tu perfume"
You have a wonderful body "Tienes un cuerpo bonito"
What a nice hair "Que pelo!"
Try to become more personal, asking if her parents are in Colombia "Tus padres viven en Columbia", do you have children "Tienes hijos", do you have brother and sisters "tengas hermanos y hermanas?" are you married "Eres Casada?" She or you willl answer you have one boy and one girl "Tengo un hijo y un hija", you are married "estoy casado"
Don't make it like a police investigation at that point you need to be sensitive and have compation. Say that it is not easy working here and having her children there "No es facil trabajar aqui y tus hijos en Colombia".
At that time, the girl wil probably start to speak freely and your job is to listen. No matter if you don't understand everything, just look interested to what she is telling you and look her straight in her eyes, while you touch her very lightly any part of her body but a sexual zone.
Ask her if she wants to drink anything :"Quieres beber algo". She will receive a small tip for this from the bar, at least she will not get the impression to lose time and money while discussing with you.
Try to learn by heart a very small story about yourself, your country, something about her country, no matter what. It will help you to fill the blanks. If you have no Spanish sentences left anymore, and she doesn't help you more by speaking herself, use the bodylanguage: smile, caress her hairs and so on.
After a while, she will bring you back to business and ask you to go to the room. She will usually give you the price. Els you may ask "Cuanto es?" If she uses any word like "fucky...fucky", just correct her and reply you want GFE:"No quiero fucky fucky, quiero hacer el amor". Even if she looks surprised, or finds it funny, she will consider it on another way. You made it clear you didn't come only for a quick fuck like the usual customers, you want more. This is my best advise. Never bargain the price, it is an offense to her, but instead ask for the best service. Even if she is not impressed about the effort you made to be nice to her which I doubt, at least she will understand that she might earn more money if she gives the best of her.
Once in the room pay the asked price (once again, I hoped you have learned to count Spanish in order to avoid any problem at that point) and undress. At that point, if you expect GFE, I hope you took care to take a shower and have good breath. Else, you might ask her before if you can ask her bathroom (it is not standard, but they never refused it to me). "Puedo tomar una ducha?" and add that it will be nicer for her "Es mas agradable para ti tambien".
When she is undressed, you defenitly have to give again a compliment."Que maravillosa!" as it is the most intimate moment.
Start smooth prelimenaries, get sometimes closer to her mouth, and as soon as you feel she will allow it, start to kiss. Again, this is not standard, but they never refused it to me. Look at her in touch her as if she is very pressious. Never enter your finger in her pussy, before you are sure it is wet. It might hurt her, and she will put lub.
Don't let her at any time put lub, don't let her also put you directly a condom. Tell her you want to go smoothly. "Suavamente, tenemos tiempo".
Once you're ready for intercourse, let her put you the condom. Again don't let her put any lub. If she is worried about it, get your face closer to her pussy. If everything smells OK, you lick her pussy. Else, spit on your finger and gently make her pussy wet. At that point you can start to stimulate also her clitoris.
If you want to ask her for a BJ, ask her "Puedes chupparme"
If you feel she is confortable enough, you can start intercourse on the missionary position. This will aloow you to controll the most sensitive part, the beginning. start very smoothly, as she needs to get wet by herself.
If you feel she is wet enough, you can try all your favorite positions. The doggy style is "Perrito", if you want her to come on you ask "Puedes venir arriba". Take care all the time that she is also confortable and that she also enjoys it. Don't forget to compliment her sometimes, even small words like "Rica!" or "Me gusta mucho". Be sensitive and ask her also : "Te gusta?".
With all these efforts, you have probably reached your goal and you are having GFE. The rest is up to you.
The legal brothels in St Maarten are never mentioned in the tourist literature and seldom mentioned in the newspaper.
Recently a girl was robbed at the Seaman's Club and it made it into the Daily Herald newspaper. Here is the online link
[url]http://www.thedailyherald.com/news/daily/i75/exotic75.html[/url]
In case the link doesn't work, here is the story:
Man steals over US $1,000
from exotic dancer’s purse
PHILIPSBURG--Police are investigating an incident in which a man who had gone to Seamen’s Club in Sucker Garden entered the room of one of the exotic dancers and stole more than US $1,000 from her purse while she was in the bathroom.
Police spokesman Inspector Johan “Janchi” Leonard said the incident had occurred around 4:00pm Thursday. He said the victim had told police the suspect had fled the scene in a waiting vehicle before security could catch him.
It appears that the man had made a special arrangement with the dancer, A.A.G. (30) of Colombia, for which he was expected to make payments. He entered the dancer’s room and removed US $1,000 and 300 euros she had in a black purse in the room.
When she exited the bathroom, the suspect had already left the room. She allegedly saw the purse was on the ground and ran out to stop the suspect after she saw that it was empty, but was too late.
She reported the matter to police that same day and detectives have been out in search of the suspect.
There are many mistakes in the Spanish for a guidebook for rookies and since we want to educate mongers here are the proper ways to say this, (see corrections in parenthesis)
Remember nouns and adjectives are feminine for women, querer "to want" is coarse vs. to like something (I'd like a Coke is nicer than I want a Coke). Learn how to use gustar. This guide with corrections is still useful.
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She will insist asking why: "Porque?". (por que? - porque is because)
If she insists by you don't want girls? "No quiro (quieres or quiere for you, quiero is I) Chicas?" answer this time you want a girl, but a girl in particular: "Quiero una chica, pero une (una - female) chica (no en) particular" (or especial).
Take a beer at the bar by asking: "Quiro (quiero) una cerbeza" or if you prefer Coca Cola "Quiero una Coca Cola". Ask the price "Cuanto es (cuanto cuesta or cuanto vale) ?".
(Note "quiero" is an abrupt way to ask for someting, use Gustaria instead -gustaria una coca cola.)
Have a look around, and as usual the most beautiful girls will not approach you. Do it yourself with this magical sentence:"Olah (Hola) chica!". If you recognize her from the last time, say you are happy to see her again: "Me alegro (alegre -to me is pleasing) de verte".
How old are you "Cuanto anos (años - with a "nasal n sound" since anos asks how many anuses do you have) tienes?"
Your eyes turn me crazy "Tus oyos (ojos - pronounced ohos) me vuelven loco" (Better to say Tus ojos me hacen loco - make me loco vs. return to me)
You are the most beautiful girl here "Eres la chica mas guapa de aqui" ( la mayor is the best, mas is more without a comparitive. This says you are the more pretty of here - Say eres la mayor bonita que todas otras chicas aqui - you are the most beautiful girl here).
I like your smile "Me gusta to (tu) sonrisa"
I like your perfume "Quiero (Me gusta) tu perfume" - (This says I want your perfume - you want to say I like your perfume).
You have a wonderful body "Tienes un cuerpo bonito" (cuerpa bonita for feminine adjectives and nouns - unless she is a man)
What a nice hair "Que pelo!" (This is just what hair! which could be insulting as it is often odd enough looking - Que pelo bonita! - what pretty hair)
Try to become more personal, asking if her parents are in Colombia "Tus padres viven en Columbia" (?), do you have children "Tienes hijos" (?), do you have brother and sisters "tengas (Tienes - tengas is subjunctive not indicative) hermanos y hermanas?"
Say that it is not easy working here and having her children there "No es facil trabajar aqui y (con - with, not y - and) tus hijos en Colombia".
Ask her if she wants to drink anything :"Quieres beber (tomar)( is used for beverages) algo".
After a while, she will bring you back to business and ask you to go to the room. She will usually give you the price. Els you may ask "Cuanto es (Cuanto cuesta or vale)?"
GFE:"No quiero fucky fucky, quiero hacer el (no el) amor".
"Puedo tomar una ducha?" (Puedo ducharme?) and add that it will be nicer for her "Es mas agradable para ti tambien". (Try Quiero que vengas en la ducha conmigo por favor - I want you to come in the shower with me)
If you want to ask her for a BJ, ask her "Puedes chupparme" (Chuparme, and this asks if she can - say quiero que me chupes _ iwant you to suck me - you need the subjunctive)
If you feel she is wet enough, you can try all your favorite positions. The doggy style is "Perrito", if you want her to come on you ask "Puedes venir arriba" (Many Latinas use terminar which means to finish, for this, not venir, which means come to us and not always to them. I am not sure she can come on you - of you want to come on her just come on her and don't bother asking.)
Grand Pollo and Routard,
Thank you very much for your language guides. They should find a home somewhere else on this forum where more people will get to them.
I am planning a trip to spanish speaking countries in the fall and this will be added to my study guide.
Traveller
el cuerpo ... the body ... is a masculine noun in espanol ... always takes the masculine adjective too ...
"tienes un cuerpo bonito" ... for man or woman.
Suerte!
I finally made it down to St. Maarten, and all I can say is UNREAL!! The bars here blow Tijuana a way!!!! The price for beer at all the bars are $2, and that is even the price for the ladies too. The girls do not try to rip you off, and you don't have to worry about corrupt police, and the price to have a great time with a beautiful is $40 at the most, and there is no stupid knock on the door trying to rush you. for the guys on the board who have been to TJ, or read the TJ board know what I am talking about. Lets get started with some details.
Seamens Club--
Hands down the best place on the island. The women are AWESOME, SEXY, and willing to do what ever for a nice price. And don't forget all beers are only $2, mixed drinks are $3. I don't remember any of the girls names that I did but I do have pics. The place starts hopping around 11am, and I have no idea how long it is open.
Defiance---
Another great club, but not as many girls walking around. I only did one girl from here, but would be sure to visit this bar again.
Le Petit--
The road to this bar has been fixed somewhat, and it is worth the drive to see these SEXY women walking around half naked, ready to FUCK.
I went to one other bar, but can't remember the name of it. Enjoy the pics!!!
Enjoy!!!! I love how the girls are not camera shy!!
I would not go with the girl unless she was ready to take some pics!!
This was the first and best girl that i had on this day and she loved the camera.
[QUOTE=Chris H]This was the first and best girl that i had on this day and she loved the camera.[/QUOTE]
This girl has the butt of the century! Keep it up, lucky guy....
I have been on the island a couple of times on a cruise. We just hung out at the beach near the pier. Had a great time.
I would like to spend a few days here on a trip around the Caribbean. Where are some decent places to stay on the Dutch side.
Thanks
Try "Mary's Boon". You can probably google it and find all the info. I stayed there for a few days and it was just terrific! Right on the beach by the airport, and during the day the planes land almost right on top of you, but it is more exciting than irritating. No noise at night.
They have a bar submerged in the pool which is neat.
Friend,
Just remember that most of the P4P action is not near the airport though. The closer to the city you are the better for you. Seamens and all the others are in the same vicinity near the town area about half an hour from the airport and the main hotels.
Alan
First is a picture of the Seaman's Club. It is set back in a fenced parking lot (good security for your car). The inside is not as upscale looking. plain concrete , but the girls are cute.
Second is a picture of the Petite Chateau, which is set in a big dirt area
across from the Little League stadium. When it rains, this area is a mud pile.
I haven't been inside yet.
Read the earlier reports for precise driving instructions.
sint maarten is my favourite island in the caribbean. high standard hotels, marvellous beaches with crystal clear water, all [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord117][CodeWord117][/url] available, tax free shopping, excellent dinning especially on the french side, casinos everywhere on the dutch side, very nice beach bars with life music (watching the airplanes landing right above the beach at the sunset bar is a must), and extended night life.
sint maarten is the smallest piece of land shared by two countries. this small island 70km2 and 70000 inhabitants has two power generators for two different electrical networks, the 50hz 220v european standards for the french side and 60hz 110v us standards for the dutch side. there are also two telephone networks, to call the french side 00 590, and to call the dutch side 00 599. but when driving around the island, you will not even notice when you cross the boarder.
official languages are french on the french side and dutch on the dutch side, but the most used language is english. however, in the dutch brothels, most girls speak only spanish.
how to get there
the international air traffic is managed by juliana airport on the dutch side.
from europe, there are daily air france and corsair flights from paris, and klm flights from/to amsterdam.
from northern america, there are daily american airlines, continental airlines and us airlines flights from/to us and air canada flights from canada.
winair has flights to santo domingo, tortolla, anguilla, saba, eustatius, nevis, st kitt’s, dominica,and antigua. air jamaica has flights to/from jamaica.
dca has flights to/from curaçao. bwie has flights to/from trinidad. both can be used as a stop over for south america.
the smaller airport grand case on the french side has daily air caraibes and air antilles flights from/to guadeloupe, martinique, sint barth but also santo domingo.
no visa is required.
money
the official currency on the dutch side is the naf, and the euro on the french side. however, the most used currency is the us dollar. as the tourism is focused on us tourists, nearly everywhere, including for our hobby the rule is: 1$us=1€. so my best advise is to pay always in $us, it will save you up to 20%. there are atm everywhere, and they delivery the 3 currencies.
safety
sint maarten is very safe. there is crime related to drug, but as a tourist you will not notice it. yes, even crime will take care not to bother the tourists! for any medical emergency, my advice is to head for the hospital in marigot. it’s a small hospital, but it is on french standards, and if they can’t handle it, they will manage the transfer to guadeloupe. never forget that on the french side, you are in eec.
lodging
my advice is to book hotel together with the air flight with a travel agent. once in sint maarten, unless you can use the business rates for local companies, it will be much more expensive.
my advice is to take a hotel at orient bay on the french side, the most beautiful beach of sint maarten (with even a nude section!), with excellent animation and not too far from the brothels. alamanda resort (0590 52 87 40), blue beach (0590 87 33 34), cap caraibes (0590 52 94 94), capri (0590 87 42 14), caribbean princess (0590 52 94 94), esmeralda (0590 87 36 36), green cay (0590 87 38 63), plantation (0590 29 58 00), l’hoste (0590 87 42 08), orient bay (0590 87 31 10), palm court (0590 87 41 94), st tropez (0590 87 42 01).
another great place is maho, close to most dutch night life places, but far from the brothels. mullet bay (543 2801), the towers (545 3069), caravanseral (545 4000), royal islander (545 2388), maho bay (545 2115), atrium (542 2126), flamingo (544 3900), horny toad guest house (545 4323), la chatelaine (545 4269), royal palm (544 3737), simpson bay yacht club (544 2799), tradewinds (544 4206), turquoise (545 2846).
if you want to be the close to the brothels, head either to oyster point: captain oliver (0590 87 40 26), caravelle (0590 87 39 49), colombus (0590 87 42 52), sol ambiance (0590 29 38 00), soleil de minuit (0590 87 34 66) oyster bay (543 60 40) princess heights (543 6906) or to phillipsburg: caribbean (542 2028), great bay (542 2446), holland house (542 2572), horizon view (543 2110), mid town (542 6837), passangrahan (542 3588), sea palace (542 2700), seaview (542 23 23).
local transport
there are taxis everywhere, but they tend to be expensive. for example to head to seamen’s club from the airport, it’s 20$. as you have to come back also, it will be 40$. for that price, you can rent a car. all international rental car companies are available at airport: hertz, avis, budget… they tend to be more expensive than the local companies which are also reliable. try this one, available at both airports: united (phone 00 599 545 2616 or 00 590 771016). they have new small automatic ac cars for 35€/day and it’s reliable.
strip club
platinium at maho beach resort is the best strip club, with 20-30 gorgeous girls from eastern europe and canada. g string lap dance for 20$, private nude lap dance is 30$ for one song. sex is not available, i tried it once, and she professionally advised me to head for casablanca or seamen’s club!
other strip clubs are golden eyes in simpson bay and solid gold at atlantis world casino in cupecoy mullet bay. there is also a strip club named cat outside the tourism area, on the road north of salt pond. most customers are locals. girls are mainly from english speaking caribbean islands (jamaica...). here, sex is available, as girls do all nighters for 150-200$.
brothels
they are all on the same track. it starts at the traffic light close to the police office on the north part of phillipsburg, on the road along the salt pond. at this traffic light (our starting point km 0), you'll notice a building with "university" spelled on in. just take that road toward the university. after a few 100m, it becomes a sand road. on your right you will see a stadium, on your left you have "le petit chateau" (400m from the starting point). go further until the road starts again to become asphalted. again on your left you will have "crystal club” and on you right “carolina” in front of crystal club (1km from starting point). at the t crossing go right until you cross again the main road between phillipsburg and oyster pond. take this road left, toward oyster pond. after 100m, you will find on your left side "seamen’s club" (1.5km from starting point). continuing on the road towards oyster pond, you will find just after having past a top "kapper bar" or "defiance" on your right hand (3km from starting point). further on the road downhill you will have on your right "sunset bar" (4.5km from starting point). continue straight on and just before oyster pond on a hill at the right side "casablanca" or "border bar" (5km from starting point). the pictures attached to the report make the brothels more easy to find.
you are free to enter and to exit of all these bars without paying anything (drinks starts from 2$). so feel free to check them all and make your own opinion. all these clubs are safe.
even if you are with your wife, and even if you are only spending the day coming from a cruise ship, drop her at phillipsburg for shopping and take a 6$ cab for a 5min drive to the brothels. it’s open even at daytime. don’t feel guilty, as you will not be able to spend as much as your wife will do on shopping!
le petit chateau
this place open’s in the afternoon till 3am.it is a big place with bar and pools, but there are mainly locals. however, don't feel uncomfortable being the only white guy, as we are in caribbean. if it will be noticed that you are alone, most of the time somebody will offer you a drink. but for the action you are looking for, it is not worth. dominican girls, overage and/or overweighed (rate 3-5). rates are 40$, but can be bargained to 30$.
crystal club
this is the worst club, i never stayed more than 1 minute. no tourists, a few dominican girls, overage and/or overweighed (rate 3-5). rates can be as low as 25$, but room facilities are poor.
carolina
this is a hidden gem. i just discovered it during my last visit, even if i know sint maarten quite well for already a few years. it’s in front of crystal club, but it’s confusing as it has a barber/beauty parlor in front, as well as a regular restaurant. once inside the building, you will notice the door to the club. the club looks like a disco, with bar and stage. about 20 girls aged 20-30 rated 5-8 from colombia. this club has by far the most upscale facilities from all the brothels. it’s a former hotel, the rooms are clean, ac with individual bathrooms. there are even a few apartments, as well as a vip area with jacuzzi and karaoke! this area can be hired with a small group of friends: make your private fkk! the girls/men ratio is excellent, as this club is not well known. rates are 40$ for 25min, but the girls take there time. the club starts at 10am till 3am, however most girls don’t spend all daytime waiting for customers. escort is available for 150-200$ a day and a bar fee of 45$. you can even stay at night in a room for 50$/room+150-200$/girl. if you have no hotel, it may be considered, as rooms are ok.
seamen’s club
this used to be my favourite club. this place is supposed to cater for seamen. as most nowadays are from cruise ships at sint maarten on daytime, there is quite a lot animation even on afternoon. the club opens at 11am and closes at 3am. don’t be scared by the bad guys in front of the door, they are only taxi drivers waiting for customers.
i like the atmosphere of this bar. inside, you have some sea related items, reminding you the name of the place. in the evening, there is a snack opening at the parking where you can eat some snacks.. during day time, there are only 5 to 10 chicas, and as much customers. during night-time, there are around 25 to 30 chicas, and 30 to 40 customers. the chicas are aged 20-25 from colombia and rated 5-8. there is a wide diversity under the customers: japanese and filipino seamen’s, black locals, white tourists, latinos, you name it. there is always some nice music, mostly latin music, as the lady behind the bar is from dominican republic. the atmosphere is very relaxed, no hassling from the girls, no bad behaviour from the customers. i even noticed several local groups (white french from the french side) accompanied with their wife or girl friend pass along having a drink.
most are from colombia (especially cali), and some from dominican republic. they are on 3-month contract (for visa reasons) and can not come back in sint maarten before 1 year. they work hard in order to bring back money to their family. most have everyday telephone contact with their family in columbia, as it is their only motivation. most of these girls are probably not working girls when they are back at home in their own country. during their stay, the chicas live two in one ac room, every room having one large bed. the shower and wc are shared by two rooms. lunch and dinner is offered in the kitchen area (not allowed for customers). the chicas are not allowed to get out, or they have to pay a fine at the bar, the same you have to pay to get her out (60$). at 9pm, they must be there, as they have to register themselves in a book at the bar. if you are at that moment at the bar, you are sure to see all of them. a white lady, the kind of one you won't expect in such place is the manager in charge (the owner itself is a guy from st maarten, but you will never see him there). she takes great care about the chicas. this explains may be why the atmosphere is much more relaxed here than in the other clubs
the going rate is 40$ for 20 min bj and fs protected. you may get down the price to 30$. if you ask for it, you can use the shower in the room. escort is also possible. day escorting starting from 11 am till 9pm (as they must be back again at 9pm) or evening escorting from 9pm to 3 pm. starting price is 300$, but you may get it down to 100$. you have to pay the bar fine (60$) separately from the chica. i once managed to get a chica out for 50$ during daytime, as she just arrived and was curious to look around the island. but most of the time, she just will calculate the money she would have earned by staying at the club. the 8 rating chicas will not go for 100$. there are a few 9 rated chicas you will nearly never spot in the club, as they work mostly on escort basis.
i have excellent memories at this place, it’s here that i started to learn spanish and where i made my first salsa steps. yes, my latina addiction started here!
defiance/kapper’s
a good parking lot, a snack outside, rooms from a former hotel, and a disco where you can meet the chicas. few tourists, about 10-15 girls, age 20-30, rated 4-6, most are dominican with a few colombianas. going rate is 40$ fs and bj. th place opens in the afternoon and closes at 3am.
sunset retreat
opens in the evening till 3am. this place looks like a disco with 5-10 girls mostly dominicanas rated 4-6. customers are locals. going rate is 30-40$ for fs and bj
casa blanca / border bar
casablanca is the biggest brothel with nice facilities (including a restaurant) and 30-40 girls. most are from dominican republic. customers are a mix of tourists and locals. it opens in the afternoon and closes at 5am. they make the girls go on stage for strip shows. but sorry, i don't like it. it is a hard core brothel, i rate the girls 4-6, with most 4. i find their attitude also too aggressive, a lot of hassling. to go to the room, you have to pay 45$ or 45€ through a small window, before you are allowed to enter the bedroom area with the girl. rooms are air-conditioned, have a bathroom and are rather clean.
swing club
there is a swing club at the french side, club 241 (0690 50 41 70). however, this is a resort, and you have to book your stay before. it's only for couples. the website is [url]www.club241.net[/url].
escort
selina are advertising as a swing club, but they can arrange escorting. i have never experienced it, but it has been reported that pricing is 150$/night including the room and a bottle of wine, which is a bargain. if you are looking for a hotel to stay, the girl is included! girls are caribbean. the contact is through email: [url]www.selina-libertin.com[/url].
general opinion
sint maarten is imho the best place for action in the caribbean. i know that most will consider dominican republic to be better. yes, dr is much bigger and offer much more action opportunities than sint maarten. but for some reason i don’t like dr action. i’m a latina lover, and dominican girls are not latinas but caribbean. you have to act more as a macho with dominican, else they will not respect you. it’s clearly about money, they will not help you to forget it. the colombian girls, like most latinas, are feminine, sensual and passionate. if you give bfe, she will give you gfe. if you have the right feeling, and for this you will need to speak spanish, have some knowledge about latin culture, including salsa dancing skills, those girls will give their heart and soul. it’s in seamen’s club that i experienced for the first time giving a genuine orgasm to a sex worker.
curaçao has also good action with colombian chicas, but there is mainly only one brothel (campo allegre), even if it is the biggest of the caribbean. sint maarten in comparison offers much more diversity in places.
i made also a report about cuba, but imho, cuba can not be considered as a mongering country, as there are no brothels, only amateur action is available.
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=379165&postcount=1111[/url]
i added also a pic of a chica i met in carolina. this is not a porn pic, just a nice picture from a nice girl, only for informative purpose about the kind of girls to expect here. my last memory of her was when she waved at me from the main door to say goodby. she was a very interesting person, there was a good chemistry. she gave me her phone number, hoping i would come back. it's heartbreaking leaving such a sweat nice girl in her shit.
Thanks Routard
Very comprehensive report. As I mentiond I have really enjoyed the island and the people on my brief visits. I will definitely be booking a stay here. My goals is to save up enough cash and time to do a little island hopping.
Thanks for your comments also Alan and 3199.
Wow Routard, thanks for the great report!!
Wish I've read this before I went to St. Maarten a few months back.
Just a few points:
Sex is available at Platinum room. I received an offer for $500,= (after work in my room). I passed on that, cause I like the Latina's, not to mention the high price.
The other stripclubs, Golden eye was closed when I was there (on a weekend). And I couldn't find Solid Gold in/near the Atlantis World Casino. Does it still exist?
I myself stayed in the Holland House on Frontstreet in Phillipsburg. Pretty good hotel and most important of all it is Girl Friendly. No questions asked whatsoever.
My favourate brothel is Seamans aswell. I kind of missed all the places on the road along the university (my bad..) but will be back in SXM in a few weeks!!!
I agree St. Maarten has a lot more diversity compared to Curacao (I live in Cur), but one big plus for curacao are the low prices. Only 50 NAF or $28 a round. These low prices are still too steep for the locals, so the majority of the customers that take a girl here are from Europe and the US. And besides campo there are a lot more hidden places for p4p. Some described in the Curacao thread.
Some of the chica's I've had in the last few months in Campo are now working in St. Maarten.
I'l mention one: Leslie, slim very big assed colombiana, pretty with beautiful long hair and very accomodating. I belief she's now working at Defiance. And I really don't have to describe her more, that ASS is a give-away.
You really should visit her, and say hi from Michael (from Curacao) for me (Like she'd remember!)
Again thanks for the great reports and I hope I can contribute a bit more in the near future
Routard,
Awesome report! I go to St Maarten several times a year and I still learned a lot from your post.
I have been to Seamans and CasaBlanca several times and have had good experiences everytime.
I never could find Petite Chateau, but with your directions it should be no problem at all, plus now I know a couple of new places to check out. In fact, I'll be in St Maarten later this week and am looking forward to new experiences.
A few of my other experiences.
Platinum Club: Drop-dead gorgeous women from all over. Poland, Russia, Italy, Brazil and even the US. But they are only there for the bux. You can take them home, but home better be one of the big yachts or something. They believe that their asses are their greatest assets and real platinum is cheap by comparison. You'll have to kiss Ben Franklin goodbye at least 10-15 times to even get them to think about it.
Golden Eye: Mostly eastern European girls...VERY beautiful and very friendly. I hung out with one from Poland that spoke fluent English and was a very good conversationalist. I sat with her for about three hours and only bought her about 3 drinks. (I think around $5 each) She never once tried to hustle me for a private session but instead was an almost perfect first date GFE. I did take her private for a couple songs ($20 each) It was an International experience with a Polish girl, Roamin' hands, Rushin' Fingers, and an old fat American. We did almost everything but FS or BJ. Lot's of rubbing, touching, carressing, and some good titty fucking. Of course I gave her a fresh liquid pearl necklace which she enjoyed quite a bit. I probably could have taken her home for a reasonable amount but, I had a date at Club Seline.
Club Seline. It is billed as a swing club and although I have heard rumours that there actually may be some swing parties, there was never one when I was on island. But they did offer a "private swing party" for $150. I decided to give it a try.
I popped a Vitamin V (purchased OTC at Philipsburg Pharmacy, downtown) just as Girard picked me up at the Travel Inn. A short ride up a steep hill led to a beautifull villa overlooking Simpson Bay. I paid him the fee, which he said was only for the house. He said the girl was here because she enjoyed meeting people and no tip was required or expected. I was welcome to stay until morning.
I was introduced to a delightful dark chocolate girl from the DR. She wore a very elegent and sexy evening dress. She was well educated and fluent in English. Gerard opened a bottle of wine and dissapeared.
We sat on a couch looking at the view and talked a while, just getting to know each other. She said she worked as a secretary for a shipping broker. After a little cuddling, we got up to dance for a while and then headed to the bedroom. I won't go into full details, but will say it was a total GFE. Very relaxed, lots of laughing and some outrageously good sex that included, massage, toys, BBCIM, BBFS, and every entrance. We alternated between playing and sleeping until the sun came up.
I will do Club Seline again, but I also like the fun of prowling the casas and sampling several different dishes from the never ending buffet.
Does anyone have any info on the Player's Club. It is in Simpson Bay upstairs from the Subway, near the Travel Inn and across from Rancho Steakhouse. I don't know if it is a strip joint, brothel or both. If no one knows anything I might just have to take one for the team.
St Maarten is pure heaven. Good food (Johnny B's Under the Tree!!!), great casinos with some serious poker rooms (helps pay for the fun!) Normal nightlife is also fantastic with plenty of single gals from all over the world.
At a few places like Sunset Beach Bar near the airport and the Perch on Orient Beach one can find all sorts of friendly singles and couples that are open to erotic good times. It takes a good personality and some fluency with the swinger terminology to hook up but if you do....you'll have a night to remember.
And the possibilities for mongers to indulge in the hobby are endless.
Time to go pack my bags. Gotta stop at Condom World in San Juan on my way to St Maarten so I can bring some gifts to the girls.
I'll try to report in from the field.
Pogo
[QUOTE=Routard]I’m a Latina lover, and Dominican girls are not Latinas but Caribbean. You have to act more as a macho with Dominican, else they will not respect you. It’s clearly about money, they will not help you to forget it. The Colombian girls, like most Latinas, are feminine, sensual and passionate. If you give BFE, she will give you GFE. If you have the right feeling, and for this you will need to speak Spanish, have some knowledge about Latin culture, including salsa dancing skills, those girls will give their heart and soul. It’s in Seamen’s Club that I experienced for the first time giving a genuine orgasm to a sex worker.
My last memory of her was when she waved at me from the main door to say goodby. She was a very interesting person, there was a good chemistry. She gave me her phone number, hoping I would come back. It's heartbreaking leaving such a sweat nice girl in her shit.[/QUOTE]
Routard, I have been to Campo 5 times, and never to St. Maarten. Every time in Campo I have exclusively been with Colombianas, just a gut feeling...looks like you have a bit of the same.
And you are right, with most of the Colombian women if you treat them right it will be GFE x 10, with climax after climax after climax when the girl herself (never mind you) loses track of time.
However, I would STRONGLY recommend keeping in touch with the girls who open up to you. I know I have and it has made my visits to Colombia absolutely divine, since over there you can meet up on a rather different basis.
Excellent report.
The only thing I would disagree with is the idea that St Maarten is crime free. I have lived on neighboring islands for 10 years and shop in St Maarten regularly. The consensus here is that crime is a problem in St Maarten: robbery, the occassional carjacking of tourists, even murder.
However, normal precautions as you would apply in the states are all that you need (don't flash around wads of money, don't wander drunk alone down Backstreet in Philipsburg at night, etc.) At any organized venue such as a brothel, security is usually excellent.
Thanks for posting.
Thank's guys for all your positive reactions about my report.
Pogostick,
Good report about Selina, confirming what I've heard about it but never experienced myself. You gave me also the excellent info that V is available at Phillipsburg Pharmacy. Could be nice to have some more info about it.
Zing23,
I know there are a lot of local discussions about security issues in Sint Maarten. Still, the tourist is not the main target for crime like in other countries. As usual, normal precautions have to be taken.
wwwever,
First time I hear that sex is available in Platinium. But with such high price, can we really call it "available"? LOL! I remember a girl in Platinium trying to sell me a lapdance. I politely replied that I was not interested, I was just there for my collegue. When she said: "that's what they all say", I explained her that I was not shy for that, but that I was used to fuck for the price of her lapdance!
TBird,
I really enjoy your reports about Curaçao, and we have the same feelings about the Colombianas. I've been once in Campo Allegre. The chica's are as nice as those in Sint Maarten, but I felt unconfortable with the environment. A former military camp (even if I agree that they made a lot of efforts to rebuild it) is not really sexy! You really should make a try to Sint Maarten, you will love it! As there is no entry fee, you hop from one bar to another, and it really gives the illusion that you are picking up girls in regular bars. And if you prefer day or night escorts, Sint Maarten is the sin island of the Caribbean, there is plenty of nightlife entertainment to enjoy with the chica. There is a daily DCA flight between Curaçao and Sint Maarten (220$ return ticket if I remember).
I'm impressed you dared to go to Colombia to visit the chicas you have met. As they are only for a short contract in Sint Maarten or Curaçao, I always wondered how could be their real life once back in Colombia. Are they still in business once in Colombia, do they have pimps, or are they simple girls trying once to earn enough money during a short time abroad in order to help their family? Yes, call me sentimental, but I care for those girls. They desearve to be happy.
Have Fun
Routard
[QUOTE=Routard]Thank's guys for all your positive reactions about my report.
Pogostick,
Good report about Selina, confirming what I've heard about it but never experienced myself. You gave me also the excellent info that V is available at Phillipsburg Pharmacy. Could be nice to have some more info about it.[/QUOTE]I contacted them via their website [url]http://www.stmartinstmaarten.com/pharmacy/main.html[/url] and requested info about V. They wrote back asking for a copy of my Drs scrip. (I don't have one) I walked in a few days later and talked to the pharmacist, who is also the owner. I told him that I forgot my scrip. He said he would go ahead and take care of me anyhow. He also has a Dr at a clinic next door that will write you a scrip for a few bux.
They carry all the brand name vitamins: V, L C etc. at about half the US prices. They also have generics from India that are even less and work just as well.
The pharmacist is pretty cool and once he has you in his computer, you are good to go for life.
I am in San Juan right now, but am taking it easy tonight. PR is just too expensive for fair to poor quality P4P. I can have 3 or 4 much finer girls or a TLN in St Maarten for the same price as a ST in San Juan.
I travel all the Netherland Antilles and am just to spoiled to even try mongering in San Juan. I love cruising the brothels in SXM and the back streets of San Nicolas in Aruba. And of course Curacao and Campo!
The Dutch really know how to offer a good mongering experience.
Pogo
I will be in St. Maarten in 2 days. I will be traveling with my wife but am sure I will get some free time again this year. I appreciate some of the new postings and my venture to a few new places this year and will post my findings when I return.
[QUOTE=Routard]There is a daily DCA flight between Curaçao and Sint Maarten (220$ return ticket if I remember).
I'm impressed you dared to go to Colombia to visit the chicas you have met. As they are only for a short contract in Sint Maarten or Curaçao, I always wondered how could be their real life once back in Colombia. Are they still in business once in Colombia, do they have pimps, or are they simple girls trying once to earn enough money during a short time abroad in order to help their family? Yes, call me sentimental, but I care for those girls. They desearve to be happy.
Have Fun
Routard[/QUOTE]
Most of them are not working in Colombia or at least desperately try not to. The vast majority of these girls are simply trying to help out their families, since other jobs do not pay anything or are not available at all. Some have to stay in the business; but generally they do not work back in Colombia. Por ejemplo, my super GFE from July has enrolled in business administration classes, and she says she now has enough money to go through the entire 24-month course and not have to work while studying. She is an amazing woman. We stay in touch and talk on a regular basis.
Just like you, I care for these girls.
Oh, and there is no more DCA. They are bankrupt.
Update: I checked the road again yesterday and it actually does go through, around the construction. However it was raining and the dirt road had some pretty major pot holes in it. So use the instructions below if the road is to muddy for your rental car!
Original report:
I was in St Maarten last weekend and noticed that the dirt road between Petite Chateau and Crystal/Caroline seemed to be blocked, due to some major construction work on the Pond Fill.
If you run into a deadend after Petite Chateau, here is how to recover.
Turn around, go back to the traffic light, turn left and then take the next left again around the pond on Sucker Garden Road.
Turn left after about 1 kilometer on another paved road (I forget the name, but there is a sign to the zoo and a Columbian restaurant on the right). This is about 100 meters before Seamans. The first significant paved left turn is where you will find Crystal Club (it should stand out).
225mmk,
Too bad you will be with the wife. I'll be in St Maarten in about 3 hours. (and at Seamans in about 4) We could have met up and gone hunting together.
Drop the wife off in Phililpsburg with a credit card and let her shop for a while. Seamans is only a short taxi drive away and you could grab a quick one and be back in about an hour. taxi round trip should be around 20, girl will cost 40 but your wife could spend a few grand on bling! (it's the price us married mongers have to pay to keep the home gal happy) Just be sure to take the wife into a perfume shop and get yourself in the way of a sample spray to cover the chica's perfume smells. (married mongers must always be well prepared.)
Tbird,
DCA is bankrupt but they are now operating as Bonaire Express, at least in the ABCs and probably in SXM as well. Same prices, planes and crews.
Pogo
I am in no way an expert on these brothels (yet!), but I have made a few observations in my 3 times visiting each Seamans, Defiance and Casa Blanca.
1) Seamans is very popular with the cruise ships. Crew members can even walk from the boats if they are short of cash and fit. The ships leave at dusk so Seamans is full of crew members and tourists from 11am to late afternoon. Wed before last there were 3 huge cruise ships at the dock and it was packed.
The Seamans crowd is fun to watch - asian crewmen, tourists in colorful shirts, even one guy who had dragged his unhappy wife in for a 3-some. but since the girls share 2 per room, it can sometimes take your chica several knocks on occupied rooms to find one for you. And she is more likely to worry a bit about spending too much time if people are knocking on the door and asking for their room back. On quiet days, 20 mintues can stretch to quite a long time. I never been in the evening, so cannot comment.
2) Defiance is very quiet in the day - no cruise people. They open between noon and 1pm in a very casual way. The girls are eating lunch at the BBQ area. I saw no evidence that the chicas share rooms, so I have had afternoon delight of 2 hours. The girl and I went to the beach one afternoon - no bar fine, no signing out, no hassle. I went once at night - it is darker, noiser, busier, and the DJ in a cage takes $30 from you and makes a note of when you go to the room with the girl. If you tip more, it is to the girl in the room. If you stay in the room too long (I stayed an extra hour or so), there is a fee to pay to the DJ. My chica negotiated it down to $3 (have no idea if this is std). None of this happens in the daytime - no DJ, no checking.
3) Casa Blanca. Opens a bit later in afternoon. More busy at night, but the system is the same as in the afternoon. You pay $45 to the house (bartender or guard in locked room). The girls seem to have their own rooms and their was no serious time pressure. We stopped when I said so.
Haven't had time since Routard's recommendation to try Carolina.
Zing,
I was there on that Wed. that you are talking about, and it was pretty crowded. I noticed they had a stage but only one girl danced on it in a nursing outfit when I was there. Do the girls perform more at night up on stage? I plan to return very soon, because the island is an AWESOME place to monger.
Chris H
Chris H,
I presume that the stage is used more at night. I have not been there at night, but when I was at Casa Blanca and Defiance at night girls were dancing pretty regularly.
Pictures of Defiance
Defiance is not hard to find, if you follow the instructions in this thread. However, it does not have a sign and I wondered if I had found the place the first 2 times I drove past it.
So here are two pictures, the first taken as the you drive up the hill. The big gate entry to Defiance is on your right. The second is taken as you drive in the gate.
Now you know that you are in the right place. The only sign on the front door says "BBQ"!
To supplement Routard's report on Carolina brothel, which is at
[url]http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=399340&postcount=50[/url]
Here is a picture of the Carolina brothel. It is across the street from the turquoise colored Crystal Club. The building looks like a boring office block from the street. There is no sign, and the main door (see arrow in picture) just says "Entrance"! Most girls share a room, but I never had an interruption as I have at Seamans.
All the girls I met there except one were from Columbia. To go to a room with the girl, you pay the bartender $3 for the hotel room. The service is not rushed and I had 2 good experiences with Columbianas here.
My first time there I went with a slim Dominicana, good experience. But next time I saw her at Defiance and she said she was finito at Carolina. My limited Spanish is not good enough to get into chica labor relations.
Next was Valentina from Columbia, very attractive, bleach blond, enhanced breasts, excellent body. DFK, DATY, BBBJ upon request (chuparma sin condom?), CFS. Close to GFE. Will repeat sometime, but I got distracted by next chica.
Anji. Diamond in nose. Wild. Fun. Enhanced breasts, nice body, ok face, but very expressive and great smile. Most enthusiastic provider in my limited P2P experience. DATY, BBBJ, CFS, massage. Vibrator, strawberry flavored lotion, handcuffs and much more in her dresser. Really interested in her work. Saw her twice, each time was different, each was excellent. When I went back the second time it was before noon. I just told the first chica that propositioned me that I was there for Anji, and 10 minutes later she appeared from her room at my side (chica tom-tom I guess, her hair was still wet from the shower).
To supplement [url=http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=399340&postcount=50]Routard's report[/url] on St Maarten, here is a picture of the Cat's adult night club. It is in a local area behind the pond.
To get to it from Seaman's Club, turn right out the gate, turn right immediately on Bush Road, follow that past the Carolina/Crystal turn off until you deadend at a slightly larger road. Turn left. you will see the building in about 1/4 mile. The picture below was taken from the other direction, so I don't know if you can see the Cat's sign when you come from Seaman's.
I have never been inside, so don't even know where the entry is. But I have seen chicas leaning off the top railing in the afternoon (probably just waking up!) Now that you all know where it is and how to find it, I expect a report from someone.
[QUOTE=Zing23] Will repeat sometime, but I got distracted by next chica.
[/QUOTE]
I know exactly what you're meaning, like a child in a candy store.
Went to Carolina again 11:30am to see if Anji was available ([url=http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=403437&postcount=65]prev report[/url]. No sign of her - in fact there were 6 guys at the bar and at most 5 girls awake!
There is a restaurant attached to the bar, so I went in to have a bite to eat. Joined a couple of chicas that were having lunch. Had Bullfoot soup with noodles (an Antilles specialty- I don't recommend it). The girls were having Columbian rice soup - it was much better.
Thanks to Routard and Thunderbird for all the suggestions in this thread for learning spanish and talking to chicas. It works great. I added a detail of my own. The girls in Carolina are mostly from Columbia, and mostly from Cali. So I got a [url=http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/world_cities/cali.jpg]map of Cali from the internet[/url] and asked each to show me where they lived.
No sign of Anji, and I had an appt at Defiance for 1pm, so I decided to move on. I exchanged a quick hola with a new girl at the bar and left. As I was getting into my car, she appeared in the door and called to me. Something like "please don't leave - I am here for you".
I went over to say hello and ask her name (Marianna from Cali) and get a good look. You can get a much better look out in the bright sun than in a dark bar!
Marianna is young (23?), almost my fantasy of a perfect latina: jet black hair to the shoulders, beautiful face and eyes, slim figure with nice natural breasts and hips. Easy to determine this because all she wore was a small halter and very short shorts. In SXM until Dec. She wore a thin retainer on her teeth - you might not notice it.
Marianna has a huge room on the second floor, back corner, down an outside porch. Good airco. Living room, kitchen, king size bed. Almost no other furniture! To get to her room you go thru the gentleman's club, a fancy lounge that opens at 1130pm (too late for me) and going past a large showroom/ballroom (for what?)
Excellent experience. A perfect body. DFK, DATY, FS, terminar en perrito (finished in doggy position), long massage, shower together. I have only been working on my Spanish for about 5 weeks, but she said it was very good (of course I focus on the words and phrases that might come in handy). Sweet, passionate, unrushed. Walked me back out to the car. How quickly I seem to have forgotten the tiger Anji.
Hi,
I just one to know something about brothels: Girls from brothels make BJ without condom? Brothers don't afraid diseases?
[QUOTE=Zing23]
Marianna has a huge room on the second floor, back corner, down an outside porch. Good airco. Living room, kitchen, king size bed. Almost no other furniture! To get to her room you go thru the gentleman's club, a fancy lounge that opens at 1130pm (too late for me) and going past a large showroom/ballroom (for what?)
[/QUOTE]
I have met Marianna too, but didn't go to the room with her. She told me she lived in a big appartment instead of a room. She told me also about the Gentlemen's area, but your report confirms all this.
By the way, great idea about the Cali map!
[QUOTE=Routard]I have met Marianna too, but didn't go to the room with her. She told me she lived in a big appartment instead of a room. She told me also about the Gentlemen's area, but your report confirms all this.[/QUOTE]I want to know something brothers:
The girls from brothels don't use condom? It's true?
They don't have diseases?
Thx for answers.
It looks like I am headed back to St.Maarten later this month, but this time to stay for a couple of days. I was wondering if there was any good advice for places to stay that are girl friendly and also a decent but not to expensive place to stay. I saw in eearlier post about a hotel near the scenic part of the island but I want to be close to the brothel scence if possible. It also seems that it is a must to rent a car while down there. Is that true? Any advice would be appreciated.
Chris H
chris,
any hotel in sint maarten is girlfriendly. to be close to the action, head either to pillipsburg or oysterpond. just check my detailled report for the hotel list. if you really want a cheap hotel in the middle of the action, why not take a room in hotel carolina?
bishop,
bj are usuallly covered, but when the girl is confidend (and when i am too), she will do it bbbj with you, and she will do also dfk. with bbbj, daty or dfk there is no risk for hiv syphilis etc.., however there is a small risk for some minor std. transmission is more likely to occur from man to woman with bbbj and from woman to man with daty. hygiene reduces transmission risk. as a rule, i always take a shower before and after, and i ask the girl also to take a shower before. in addition, i drink a lot (non alcoholic), so that i always [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url] right after the session. i rarely will do daty, and i will sometimes skip dfk and bbbj if girls seems in bad health, seems not to be medical checked or seems to have lack of hygiene. i will also skip bbbj if i'm hurted due to excess of sex for example. follow these rules, and chances to get anything will be close to zero.
From The Daily Herald, St Maarten newspaper, Thu Nov 3.
In case [url=http://www.thedailyherald.com/news/daily/i145/brothel145.html]this link[/url] stops working, here is the whole story. Those girls from Dominican Republic are tough!
Two jailed for fight in brothel
PHILIPSBURG--Two men who started a brawl at Casa Blanca Nightclub in Oyster Pond on August 6 were tried and sentenced in the Court of First Instance on Wednesday. Milton Hubert Peters (33) of the United States will have to spend one year in prison, while Jose Elmiro Cannegieter (31) will have to sit for nine months.
The two men got into a brawl with a group of exotic dancers working in the establishment, apparently in a fight over a chair.
Milton Peters stated that he had been sitting on a chair inside the brothel and got up to buy himself a drink. When he returned, a 19-year-old woman from the Dominican Republic had occupied his chair. He asked the girl to return his seat, but she refused. Thereupon the two started a tug-of-war with the chair.
During the scuffle the girl allegedly struck Peters with a bottle, prompting him to punch her in the face. At that moment several other female dancers at the brothel – both suspects stated there were as many as 40 – joined in the scuffle and started throwing bottles at him. Four dancers, all from the Dominican Republic, sustained injuries in the fight.
Cannegieter told Judge Frank Wieland Wednesday that he was innocent and had nothing to do with the fight. But Peters had a different story. He stated Cannegieter had pulled a gun, which enabled them to leave the establishment. However, Peters admitted that he was the actual owner of the firearm.
Peters had been in contact with the law before. He was sentenced to 10 years for manslaughter in 1996.
In this case, Prosecutor Johan de Vrieze considered the charges of threat, manslaughter and the possession of a firearm proven. He requested 18-month prison sentences for both suspects.
In defence of his client, lawyer Stomp pleaded for the acquittal of his client based on the fact that he had acted out of self-defence. “These women stood up for themselves and lined up at the exit. My client had no other way out,” Stomp said.
Attorney-at-law Jairo Bloem was of the same opinion where Peters was concerned. “These women started to fight and my client responded,” according to Bloem. He stated that his client should be acquitted of manslaughter and of having threatened the women, and that Peters could only be convicted of the possession of a firearm.
Judge Wieland considered all charges proven in Peter’s case. He dismissed the self-defence plea because Peters had gotten himself involved in the brawl.
Cannegieter was only found guilty of possession of an illegal weapon. The judge acquitted him of the other charges.
Here is a map I created from the standard tourist map. it shows the location of all the brothels that I know about.
Is it the best brothel in St Marteen? Girl are ok?
[QUOTE=Bishop1975]Is it the best brothel in St Marteen? Girl are ok?[/QUOTE]I think that Carolina is better, but Seamans is a good place. Girls are very similar at Carolina and Seamans, but of course some leave every week and some new ones arrive from Columbia every week!
Zing
Thanks for the map. Most helpful.
I will add it to the one I got from the cruise ship.
Maybe we can start shore excursion company.
From The Daily Herald, Phillipsburg, St Maarten. Wed Nov 16, 2005.
When reading this article, keep in mind that the event happened at 4:00am and at Casa Blanca brothel, which is the most remote one. I would be careful everywhere in St Maarten at 4am (if i ever stayed up that late!). During the daytime and early evening, even Casa Blanca is generally safe.
"Man Attacked Outside Brothel"
A man R.O. (20) of Curacao was attacked and severly beaten by at least seven young men who stole his personal belongings and US $400 Sunday Nov 13.
The victim told police he had been at the Casa Blanca brothel around 4:00am when he received a phone call. Because of the noise inside the establishment, he went outside the building to converse with his caller.
Not knowing he was being watched, he was engaged in conversation when the suspects rushed him and proceeded to beat him. During the beating he lost a tooth and sustained a swollen left eye and jaw.
He was taken to St Maarten Medical Center (SMMC) for treatment, following which he gave police brief details of the incident. Police spokesman Inspector JOhan "Janchi" Leonard said the victim had claimed he did not know the suspects.
Following up on [url=http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=399265&postcount=49]my picture of Le Petit Chateau[/url], here is a report of my visit.
I went in the early afternoon. As you enter there are 4 pool tables, where 2 locals were having a game. I said "good afternoon" which is the standard greeting here (Good night at night instead of good evening) and continued on into the bar. Large circular bar with about 5 or 6 guys and equivalent chicas, well lit by sunlight during the daytime. In the back is an area with benches along the walls that is darker; this is where most of the girls were sitting. I didn't get a good look at them, but they seemed to be mostly the large Dominican girls that [url=http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=399340&postcount=50]Routard described[/url] and that many locals like.
When I went up to the bar to order my drink, one pale skinned girl with a sort of desperate look of trying to be classy greated me in very formal english - she must have memorized it from a course. I replied with "Hola" and moved off to sit and look around.
None of the girls at the bar appealed to me at first glance. I was going to move to the back of the bar and start talking to the many chicas there, when I noticed an attractive, thinner, well-endowed girl with short hair walk across to the bar and order a Vitamin Drink. I moved over and said "Hola" and "Como estas?" She was from Cali Columbia and we had a nice chat in my pitiful Spanish. She showed me pictures of her 3 children on her cellphone and of her beauty parlor in Cali - she earns money in St Maarten to pay for setting up the business. She said she was 34 years old, which must be true, given the size/age of her oldest bambino, but she looked better than many of the 25 year olds.
We agreed on $30 (treinta dollares) to go to her room. Outside the back of the bar is a large courtyard with the girl's rooms all around it. A number of girls were setting on stoops talking, a few guys also. She asked if I wanted the climatization (airco) - I said yes, and she went back with $3 for the bar to get them to turn on the airco in the room. The room was small and ordinary, like at Seamans and Defiance etc.
The sex was good - not super special. I gave her a $10 tip, bringing the cost up to her asking price. She looked just as good without her clothes!
Le Petite Chateau is big and friendly - I will go back sometime, although Caroline and Defiance are my favorites right now.
In St Marteen, are there any asian girls for massage sensual?
[QUOTE=Bishop1975]In St Marteen, are there any asian girls for massage sensual?[/QUOTE]I have never heard of any.
Zing
Zing,
I think you are right about Le Petit Chateau. It is my favorite place on the island for hobbying. The prices are cheaper and I think the chicas are far less aggressive and demanding than Seamans.
There is a one called Elena who is from the Dominican Republic. About 30, oversized breasts and round butt. She does anal for 40. Takes it like a true champ. No fuss and no complaints.
Quite a few younger ones as well, but they are not always receptive to anal offers.
Alan
Hi Guys!
A quick note to tell you a bit about my visit to St Maarten last week.
My buddy and me were working in St Maarten and had a few hours of free time in the afternoon. We shared a cab from town, intending to go to the Casa Blanca; we had been to the Island many times before, and because of the time (it was round about 3-30pm) we decided against the Seamens Club, because even though we have had many an enjoyable stay there, during the afternoon it almost always gets pretty well packed with; well Seamen I suppose! (There’s a clue in the name!) I find that wherever you are in the world, when there are a lot of potential clients there for the girls, they tend to be a little rushed and indifferent. Anyway, got chatting to the driver in the taxi, talking about the clubs over the years, and he mentions a place called Carolina’s. I hadn’t visited St Maarten for over a year, but I had not heard of this place before; perhaps it is reasonably new to the scene? Well I felt compelled to give it a try, if only to give all you guys the heads up!
1st of all, the locals use a Spanish sounding pronunciation of the name “Carolina’s”; it sounded a bit like “Ka-ro-leee-naz” (please excuse spelling, and no offence intended to any of you Spanish speaking guys!) The club seemed to be just around the corner, probably easy walking distance, from the Seamens club (I’m not sure if I would be too happy trying that at night on my own though). There were 2 entrances from the street. The one to the right leads into a café/restaurant type place, so it’s the dark and dingy one to the left that you’ll need.
You find yourself in a dimly lit bar, with a stage area set up with a pole. When we arrived (about 4pm-ish) we were the only 2 “punters” but there were plenty of girls; I’d take a guess at about 20. There were a couple of other guys in the bar, but they were running a few of the girls through some dance moves so I assumed that they were something to do with the management.
We had a few beers there; not too expensive: - I think 2 or 3 bucks each, and admired the view. As we were the only 2 guys there, we did have a lot of attention. Almost all of the girls there would have been on my “Do-able” list. As to be expected, they mainly seemed to come from the DR or Colombia, so if tall leggy blond hair and blue eyes is your thing you best not come here! Having said that, none of the girls were old or overweight, I would say 6 out of 10 and upwards, and a good few with a lovely sexy and flirty look about them. Had a chat with a few of the girls. But my attention had been caught by the girl that was going through the dance moves. I was told here name was Valentina, but when she came over, she introduced herself as Vicky; (again with the accent it was more like “Veee-ky!). On speaking to her, it turned out she was 23, from Cartegena, and had only been in St Maarten a few weeks. (I did take a picture on my Cell phone; will see if I can upload it when I figure out how to do it!). Chatted to her for about ½ hour or so. My Spanish is virtually non existent, and so was her English; (As an aside, would it be a good idea if we could get a page on here catering for translations for some of the more, “useful” hobbyist expressions?) Another nice thing; as we were chatting, my friend and me had another beer, and thought it polite to offer the 2 girls “a beer”; (try this line guys. If you offer them a beer/whiskey or whatever you are drinking, then it leaves you room for manoeuvre if the bar maid comes back with a $200 bottle of champagne!) However the girls asked for an Orange juice, and a Red Bull! Top marks!
Took the girls to the room. There was a $3 bar fine to take each girl out. The rooms were off down a corridor to the left of the stage area. They were typical rooms for this part of the world. A little on the grubby side, but with a shower and acceptable A/C. Vicky was a very capable and enthusiastic companion. DFK to get warmed up, then on with the rubber and into a very acceptable CBJ. Mish, cowgirl, and finished off with everyone’s favourite; Doggy. No clock watching; - in fact no mention at all of any time constraints, apart from a “from the management” style piece of card stuck on the wall. And rather surprisingly, she didn’t ask for any money upfront!? At the end, she asked for 40 bucks; was more than happy with that, so I gave her a 10 dollar tip. Once again, I’m sure the situation was helped because we were the only 2 guys in there; if we had been at the Seamen’s Club at that time of day, there would have been a never ending stream of girls with clients banging on the door wanting the room!
The girls came out to the bar with us afterwards and had another drink. Used the old trick of asking a guy outside for a cab. A “non” taxi is the cheapest way to get back from the clubs on this island. Even from the Casa Blanca, which is in the $15 region for a legitimate taxi, the locals are happy to take you back to town for 5 dollars.
Very happy with my first visit to Carolina’s. Will be back in St Maarten in a few weeks time; and will definitely be visiting there again!
Cheers Guys,
Tigerman
[QUOTE=Bishop1975]In St Marteen, are there any asian girls for massage sensual?[/QUOTE]Just a couple of days ago I answered that I had never heard of any, but looking in Friday's Daily Herald newspaper classifieds, I found this ad:
"Thai Massage. Body Body, very Sensual. private or at your home open 7/7. For
more information, call 0690 887311."
Should have known - St Martin has everything. This is a cellphone number on the French side. To reach from the USA, you dial 011 590 690 88 73 11. To reach from the Dutch side St Maarten, you dial 00 590 690 88 73 11.
Hopefully Bishop will try it and report back to us.
[quote=tigerman].. would it be a good idea if we could get a page on here catering for translations for some of the more, “useful” hobbyist expressions?[/quote]
before my first visit to brothels of st maarten, i used a post by [url=http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=349588&postcount=36]routard[/url] to get started with chica spanish. he writes:
[quote=routard]latinas are sexy, sensual, passionate and sensitive. that's why the experience you will get with a chica depends largely of the chemistry you will be able to build up with her. speaking spanish is mandatory, else you will probably be disappointed. if you don't speak spanish, find hereafter a useful "phrasebook". [/quote]i suggest you read his post for the guidelines to chica communication. also helpful were the comments on routard's post by [url=http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=382559&postcount=38]grand polo.[/url] below is my version of routard's guide, with grand pollo's corrections and my simplifications. most of the chicas were from columbia, so i will make the examples below refer to columbia.
three tips that i can add to what they suggested:
1) at the start, concentrate on learning a few verbs and nouns. for example, if you want to take a shower with the girl, you can compose an entire sentence in spanish, or you can just say "ducha?" or "ducha, conmigo?" (shower with me?) just adding a question inflection to a single word can make an entire sentence! "bambinos?"
2) when you run out of things to say, or spanish words that you know, ask them what the spanish word is for something. the key is for the sentence to be totally in spanish, except for one english word. if you can point or gesture or pantomine the english word it works for even tough concepts. to ask "how do you say 'lips' in spanish?', you ask "como se dici en espanol 'lips'?". last week i learned that the bum is "cola", at least to mariana from cali.
3) get an inexpensive electronic translator with speech. the one i have does 6 languages and doesn't really pronounce the word very well, but it serves to remind you that spanish vowels have different sounds (i is e, e is a, a is ah, etc.) and to distinquish soft g from hard g, j is h etc. also, once you have made a connection with a chica, you can use the translator to keep communicating! really, it works. in fact, you can even print this posting out and point to phrases on it to communicate!
spanish = english:
hola! = hi!
como estas? = how are you?
...bien, gracias, y tu? = fine, and you?
como te llamas? = what is your name?
... me llamo zing. = my name is zing.
mucho gusto = pleased to meet you
de donde eres? = where are you from?
... america/canada/france/etc.
te gusta st martin? = do you like st maarten? they will answer 'si' or 'no' or "st maarten muy caldo" (st maarten is too hot compared to cali!)
quantos años tienes? = how old are you? (note: pronounce the n like it is 3 nns, with a "nasal n sound", since anos asks how many anuses do you have)
the spanish numbers are not that hard, but in the beginning just use your fingers (3 fingers, then 5 fingers for 35).
habla usted ingles? = do you speak english?
no hablo espanol = i don't speak spanish. but i usually say "poco espanol" which means "a little spanish".
(no) comprendo = i (don't) understand.
repitamelo, por favor = repeat. or just repita.
mas despacio = more slowly.
escribamelo = write it down.
como? = what?
say nice things about your chica:
piel muy suave = very soft skin (more complete is "usted tiene piel muy suave" = you have very soft skin). or just stroke her arm gently and murmer "suave, muy suave, ...".
ojos = eyes
labios = lips
tetas, mamas = breasts
pelo = hair
piel = skin
cola = bum
cuerpo = body
tetilla = nipple
belos = balls
bonita/bonito = pretty.
hermosa/hermoso = beautiful.
for example, cuerpo bonito. ojos hermosa. pelo hermoso.
bonita is used with feminine words (usually ending in a, as in 'chica', 'mamas'). bonito is for masculine words (usually end in o, such as ojos and cuerpo).
tus ojos me hacen loco = your eyes make me crazy. 'tus' is pronounced 'chu' and there is a soft c in hacen, like hacienda.
besos = kisses. muchos besos = many kisses.
besos en los labios? = kisses on the lips
beso con lengua? = kisses with tonque
learn to say you like/want something: me gusta tu sonrisa = i like your smile.
baile? = dance?
beber? = drink?
use her name in a few sentences:
valentina [es] muy hermosa = valentina is very beautiful.
valentina mas atractiva [aqui] = valentine is the most sexy [here]
ask about her family:
padres en columbia? = parents in columbia? more complete is "tus padres viven en columbia?" = are your parents in colombia? singular padre is father, madre is mother.
bambinos? children? more complete is "tienes hijos?" or "tienes bambinos?"
bambinos años? = how old are your children? i usually also hold out my hand to indicate the possible height of the child.
hermanas? = sisters? more complete is "tienes hermanos y hermanas?" = do you have brothers and sisters?
no es facil trabajar aqui con tus bambinos en colombia = it is not easy working here and having her children there:
she will ask if you want to go for a massage or "fucky fucky". gfe = no quiero fucky fucky, quiero hacer amor. = not just a quick fuck, i want romance. corny, but cute. i have found it difficult to negotiate what is included - but if something is a deal breaker for you, be sure to ask for it. me gusta chuparme sin condom = i like sucking without a condom.
cuanto cuesta? = how much? most chicas will know the english words for fifty dollars, forty dollars, thirty dollars,... or just offer thirty dollars yourself = treinta dollares?
some useful words in the room:
fabuloso = fabulous (when she is naked!)
delicioso = delightful
caliente!! = hot!!
una hora? = one hour? the girl may sometimes try to upsell you (one hour is more money). i now say "no gracias" and find that a good daty can extend the session usually, then offer a larger tip.
ducha = shower. ducha conmigo = shower with me.
mas suave = softer
mas duro = harder
apretar = squeeze
siente bien? = feels good?
chuparme = suck. chuparme sin condom = suck without a condom.
perrito = doggy style.
terminar = come/climax.
propina = tip.
also learn a few standard phrases:
por favor = please.
muchas gracias = many thanks.
buenas tardes = good afternoon.
adios = goodbye.
quizás = perhaps. quiza - maybe. pero = but.
hasta luego (see you later) soft g
perdon = sorry.
fatigue = tired.
at the end, the best providers will offer a massage. "si". as you relax, ask for "massage de mamas", i.e., massage me with your tits. after that, "ducha" for a shower!
if you enjoyed the session (or the next session on the second day) and you have the free time, ask her if she wants to have lunch at the beach: la playa para almorzar? if you want to arrange another session, número de teléfono? = your telephone number?
final tip: if there was something you wanted to communicate, but couldn't, go to [url=http://www.freetranslation.com]freetranslation.com[/url] and translate it from english into spanish for the next time! this web site is really good.
good luck. i wrote this after working on spanish for less than 8 weeks. i wanted to get it down while i was still a novice. no doubt i have some errors and typos and important omissions. just pm them to me and i will update the post as a reference.
- zing
Hi all!
Just a quick note to thank Zing23 for his prompt and very useful reply!
Cheers,
Tigerman
Since I started visiting the brothels in Sept, I have been trying to follow the advice on this forum. Learn Spanish, talk to the Chicas, create some small relationship, and leverage that into a satisfying session. As I learned to follow these rules and say no to non-responsive chicas, my sessions got a lot better.
Yesterday I was in Seamans and there were almost no customers, because no cruise ships were in port. The chicas were mainly busy putting up Christmas dectorations. I was just going to take a drink and look around when Isobella approached me.
Thin (flaquita), pretty face, enhanced breasts, from Cancun Mexico (a hurricane refugee I guess). I tried all my Chica Spanish on her and never really got a conversation going. In fact, she answered all my simple Spanish with English! She just rubbed up against me and sat in my lap. She was sexy, but based on what I learned on this forum, I thouight the session with her would be disappointing.
Since I had 30 minutes and $40 to spare, I let her take me to the room anyway. Undressed she was still sexy, but her breasts were over-enhanced - in my opinion - she had no nipples left. she would not allow kissing on the lips, or BBBJ or DFK. Her service was a quick CBJ, and a few positions. No carresses, no kisses, no massage. I guess if you are 21 with raging hormones this would work for you, but for older me it was not exciting. After 20 minutes, I told her I wasn't going to come. Note: Based on an unscientific sample of 2 chicas, I now consider knowledge of English a bad indicator. It shows more knowledge of American sexual expecations than is healthy!
Science experiment completed: theories of the ISG board members validated.
If you don't feel any connection and feedback with the chica, don't do the session.
I'm currently on St Maarten.
Went to Seamans the other day for the first time in a while. (I usually go to CasaBlanca)
There wasn't much action and after a quick beer I was about to leave when a rather pretty and TALL chica approached me. I usually like very petite spinners with small tops, but there was something about her that I just had to give her a try.
We head to her room and undressed. She was HOT! She gets right down to a CBJ with no prelude. Gets me off in just a short time. So I figure I just got ripped off by a good fast sucker and it was over.
But instead, she gives me one of the best massages I've ever had, then gets in bed with me and snuggles for a while. Next thing I know she is playing with the little stick which led to a great BBBJ and CFS that lasted quite a whille.
She turned it into a good GFE Her name is Chyna and she is here for another 2 months.
Last night I cruised Defiance and Casa Blanca. Defience was pretty slow, but had some very fine chicas. It was still early so I headed up to Casablanca to check the scene there. I ran into a chica I did last month and we partied for a while. Good, but nothing special.
I then decided to check out Carolinas. It was my first time there. I had driven by a few times before, but didn't like the vibes. But after some good posts here I had to try it.
By now it was around midnite. I find my way into the bar and it is packed. Maybe 75 guys and about a dozen girls. I was about to leave, when a hand slides down the back of my pants and gives my ass a squeeze. I turn around and there stands a black haired beauty. She had to be one of the most beautiful chicas I have ever seen in a casa. Her beauty is real. Girl next door type and not the heavy makeup look like a Ho style.
I take her to her room and when she undressed she went from and 8+ to a 9+. Nice soft milk chocolate skin, dark large nipples and an ass that brings tears to your eyes. I stayed in that room with her for 3 hours. We worked on language. She spoke almost no English, which exceeds my Spanish skills. We both ended up a bit more fluent in each others languages. This girl is very intellegent. Hard to believe, but this GFE was even better thab Chyna at Seamans. 3 shots on goal, 3 hours of enjoyable company for ony $. 40. She has only been here for a week so I will definitely see her on my next couple trips.
Next time I promised her a weekend with me in my hotel. At first she wanted $3 for a single TLN, but I got her down to $2 for 3 days/2 nights. I did promise her a weekend of fun. Snorkling, beaches, casinos, good food etc. It will cost a bit for the bar fine ($. 4 per night) but it will be a weekend to remember.
If I could ever fall for a chica, she would be the one.
Hmmmm. I think I'll head over there now!
Pogo
[QUOTE=Pogostick]I'm currently on St Maarten ...
Pogo[/QUOTE]Thanks for the report. It captures the excitement that is St Maarten. There must be at least 150 chicas working in the various places on a good week. You never know what is going to show up.
[QUOTE=Rastaman]Does anyone have the address for Carolina's in St. Maarten???[/QUOTE]I don't have the address, but will try to describe how to get there.
From downtown, take the little road that goes to the University and Stadium. It quickly becomes a rough dirt road. After a while you will see Petite Chateau on your left. Keep going, around a curve to the left until you get to the entrance to the landfill. The road becomes paved at this point. Turn right and after aboyt a half mile you will see 2 bars on either side of the road. The one one the left is Crystals and the right is Carolinas.
Or head towards Seamans from downtown. Just before Seamans you'll see a road with a sign on your left pointing to St Maarten Park. Turn left on that road and soon you'll see the New Era Store (small convienience/grocery) Turn let on the road just past the store and you'll see the two bars about 2 blocks down.
Good luck and happy mongering!
Pogo
Went back to Carolina yesterday around 12:30pm. About 15 men and 25 chicas. I was looking for a chica from Cali called Valentina for a repeat (see reports below), since Anji had left for Curacao.
Lots of cute chicas available, but I was determined to wait for the right one this time! Got a drink from the bar, then spotted 2 chicas sitting against the far wall with a spare chair. Smiled and went to sit down. Discovered that this is a good location for watching the club - next to the door to the restaurant, some sun light comes in and allows you to see everyone in the club!
The first chica was brown haired, petite, slim, but curvy, with nice breasts and a beautiful delicate face. The second chica was taller, blond, more built, not as beautiful. After the obligatory hola-como estas, but before where-are-you-from and what-is-your name, they immediately asked me if I wanted two girls. This has happened to me before in St Maarten, so must be a common service. As I am novice mongerer and still getting the hang of P4P, I haven't partaken yet.
I said thank you, but I was looking for a chica, a particular chica. The slim one says, oh you are selective-good. I reply, I am looking for a chica named Valentina. They both stare at me with mouths dropped open!
It turns out that there were 3 Valentinas in the club, and they were TWO of THEM! They pointed out the 3rd Valentina across the room, wrapped around a client at the bar.
Since "my Valentina" was occupied and this Valentina-confusion allowed for a good conversation, I eventually went to the room with the slim Valentina from Bogata.
Excellent session. Once undressed it turned out that the curvy breasts that appeared enhanced in the club on such a slim girl, were actually quite natural and only helped by a push-up bra. This was a nice surprise for me as I prefer tetas naturales.
Unrushed. Lots of kisses and embraces and play. Long DATY at her request, BBBJ, Covered FS in 3 positions, nice GFE except for resistance to DFK. No discussion of money, I just paid the standard $40 and added a large tip separately.
Ran into the original Valentina in the restaurant, tried to get her number, but she is going back to Columbia for Christmas on Monday. Told Valentina #3 that I would see her next time.
Another visit to Carolinas in St Maarten.
The bartender told me that in order to take a chica out of the club, you must pay a $35 bar fine. I don't know if this covers all night, but I suspect that it does (the bar only charges $3 to go to the room with a chica).
Another thing I learned is that the chicas must have regular medical tests, since it happened while I was there. They must turn in the doctors ok report to the house. I will find out how often and thorough these tests are next time, but knowing medical care in the caribbean, I wouldn't expect them to be too professional.
Regarding pogostick's "black haired beauty" in [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=414083&postcount=89]this post[/url], her name is Viviana (pronounced bee-bee-an- a, with a pronounced as in "saw"). She is from Cali and is very sweet, if you treat her nicely. Highly recommended.
[QUOTE=Zing23]Another visit to Carolinas in St Maarten.
The bartender told me that in order to take a chica out of the club, you must pay a $35 bar fine. I don't know if this covers all night, but I suspect that it does (the bar only charges $3 to go to the room with a chica).
Another thing I learned is that the chicas must have regular medical tests, since it happened while I was there. They must turn in the doctors ok report to the house. I will find out how often and thorough these tests are next time, but knowing medical care in the caribbean, I wouldn't expect them to be too professional.
Regarding pogostick's "black haired beauty" in [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=414083&postcount=89]this post[/url], her name is Viviana (pronounced bee-bee-an- a, with a pronounced as in "saw"). She is from Cali and is very sweet, if you treat her nicely. Highly recommended.[/QUOTE]Yep, Viviana is her name. She is definately a sweety.
Actually, the medical system on SXM is very good. There will be a medical school opening in the next year or two that should be the best in the Caribbean.
My last day in Aruba I met a real beauty from Bogota at the Baranca Bar. I'll upload a picture when I get home.
In Curacao now but due to late night dinners with clients I haven't had a chance to hit Campo. Hopefully I will before I leave.
Pogo
I stayed in Phillipsburgh. Following Routard’s excellent direction in this post [url]http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=399340&postcount=50[/url], I walked. Walked past Le Petit Chateau on towards Carolina. I am a walker, so did not think the walk was any big deal.
Since this was afternoon, there were about 7 girls and about 5 guys. Started talking to one chic, no Spanish on my part and no English on her part. Anyway, she introduced herself very well, my touching me in all the right places and whispering sweet nothings. Bought her a drink, 4 dollars. And after a while of fondling each other went to her room. Standard CBJ, and FS in all different positions, i.e. Missionary, Doggy, Cowboy etc.. After the deed was done, we cuddled for a couple of minutes and then she gave me a soft back massage. All for $40.00. Nice girl, wish I could remember her name.
Started walking back towards Phillipsburgh when I had another itch, so stopped in at Le Petit Chateau. While there bought a girl from Columbia a drink, on herequest. You could tell none of the girls were of the quality of Carolina’s, including the Colombian girl. But this girl also touched me in the right places and after a while left me to be with her friend. I went in the back where the rooms are and this girl and friend were going to their room, they said $20 a piece. Seemed an attractive offer but did not participate. Interesting note. While there I ran into a guy who works at Club 51 / 50 in Phillipsburgh. I had gone there the night before to check it out while walking all over Phillipsburgh at night looking for local bars, no problems walking at night. Anyway this guy , a local, said that even he would not go to this place at night because there were gangster types hanging around at night. Beware.
Got a Gypsy cab to Seaman’s, alright, tired of walking at this point. The chick I hooked up with at Seaman’s also touched me and caressed me in all the right places. I am surprised nobody had mentioned this bit of action in prior reports. Anyway, ended up with a standard CBJ and full service for the standard $40.00. Asked me for a propina of $2.00, which I gladly gave. Done for the day – this was all between about 3:00pm and 6:00pm.
Went to Carolina’s on the next day around 7:00pm. No girls there and Bartender said the girls come out 8:00pm. Went walking, there is a Colombian restaurant, a Chinese restaurant and such in the general area near Seaman’s. Had Chinese food and went back to Carolinas. This time I chose a tall blond, or actually she chose me and she spoke good English. Again, all that caressing of the member. She gave a BBBJ, then covered FS and then finished off with CBJ. All for the standard $40.00.
Next day went to looking for action around 6:00pm. This time took a cab from Phillipsbugh to Seaman’s. No one there. Next stop was defiance, there were bunch of girls there but did not get the vibe. This place is bigger and nicer that either Carolina’s or Seaman’s. Went onto Casa Blanca which is the biggest, and the great thing about before 8:00pm was all the lights were on and you can really check out the chcias. As someone mentioned, mostly Domincan girls. One little spinner caught my attention and she caught the attention I was paying her and came over. Again, all that caressing while I was having my drink and bought her a drink. Standard CBJ and FS, but this was more expensive as it was $45.00 and it was paid to the barmaid.
Later that night, went to Seaman’s and the girl from the first day came over and started paying immediate attention and so settled on her. Same deal, CBJ and FS.
Overall, I found the girls to do what you wanted them do without hesitation, I never asked for BBBJ, it was volunteered one time.
Let me say a little more on the subject of caressing at the bar. They all did that for me, basically playing with my member or giving me a lap dance / grinding while I was having a drink and until they finished their drink. So, you can get a lot of pre action, action, for 15 to 20 minutes. I noticed that when I ordered a second drink, they did not participate and the caressing also sort of stopped. So, I think caressing is a one drink thing. Also, all this caressing was voluntary and initiated by them, it was not as if I asked them to. Since this part does not seem to be covered in the other posts, I thought I would add this little tidbit. The lovely think about the caressing is you are already leaking and have gotten over the initial burst of excitement which I noticed tended to prolong the action in the room. Anyway, that was my experience.
Next time I will check out Defiance and Casa Blanca more as they had the better atmosphere to relax in, larger facility with more room to walk around. Also, the better times to go would be early afternoon to 5 - 6pm or after 8:00pm. At night they pretty themselves up.
[QUOTE=Supposed]
Let me say a little more on the subject of caressing at the bar. They all did that for me, basically playing with my member or giving me a lap dance / grinding while I was having a drink and until they finished their drink. So, you can get a lot of pre action, action, for 15 to 20 minutes. I noticed that when I ordered a second drink, they did not participate and the caressing also sort of stopped. So, I think caressing is a one drink thing. Also, all this caressing was voluntary and initiated by them, it was not as if I asked them to. Since this part does not seem to be covered in the other posts, I thought I would add this little tidbit. [/QUOTE]
Very nice report. Interesting is to see how others experience it based on expectations from previous reports and highlighting the unexpected parts.
Yes, as you mentionned, the girls get a small fee from the drinks you buy to them, which is the way to pay for their company and for the pre-action. Of course, pre-action is also her selling technique. But my recommendation is to check during that time through caressing how her body really is shapped, in order to avoid any disappointment once in the room. I love latinas, but I know also their most frequent problem: fat...
[QUOTE=Supposed]Let me say a little more on the subject of caressing at the bar. They all did that for me, basically playing with my member or giving me a lap dance / grinding while I was having a drink and until they finished their drink. So, you can get a lot of pre action, action, for 15 to 20 minutes. I noticed that when I ordered a second drink, they did not participate and the caressing also sort of stopped. So, I think caressing is a one drink thing. Also, all this caressing was voluntary and initiated by them, it was not as if I asked them to. Since this part does not seem to be covered in the other posts, I thought I would add this little tidbit. The lovely think about the caressing is you are already leaking and have gotten over the initial burst of excitement which I noticed tended to prolong the action in the room. Anyway, that was my experience.[QUOTE]Great report. Thanks for bringing this subject up.
I guess those of us that regularly monger in the Dutch islands take the foreplay for granted. It is a great time to get to know the girl a bit and check out how she feels. If you just grab the front edge of their bra or panties they will almost immediatly show you what they have to offer. I always grab a little snatch to see how it feels as I like either fresh shaved or a bit of soft down. If I find stubble I'm on to the next girl.
This is also the time to start building a GFE. A little talking, a little touching, a little dancing go a long way towards having a very good time. Do NOT let them order a ladydrink. It's usually just a small shot of wine. Instead, order them a Heinekin. It takes them much longer to drink and fills them up so they don't keep ordering more.
The only thing the girls like more than salsa dancing is teaching mongers how to salsa. Even if you can dance well...let them teach you. It usually ends up with a lot of laughing and fun and she feels more like a girlfriend instead of a puta. It is good for her self esteem and guarantees an enjoyable, unrushed GFE when you get her to her room.
The foreplay is one of the best parts of mongering in St Martin. You can have a bit of fun with lots of different girls in several bars for a very small price and then choose who you really want to spend some "quality time" with. I have even seen a few mongers shoot thier load in their pants right at the bar or on the dance floor for the price of a drink.
Pogo
[QUOTE=Supposed] The chick I hooked up with at Seaman’s also touched me and caressed me in all the right places. I am surprised nobody had mentioned this bit of action in prior reports. [/quote]
Great report. One thing I have noticed about the caressing is that it has caused me to develop a bit more self control. The aggressive chicas will go really far in arousing you - such as massaging your member with their buns while doing a salsa dance. Often found myself in the room with a chica that I really wasn't highly attracted to, had not even talked to, and ended up with a mechanical and unsatisfying session. Now after 4 months of mongering in St Maarten, I accept the caressing for a bit, but don't let her do it too long if I am determined that this is not the chica for me.
My last visit to Seaman's a small Dominicana approached me at the bar and we had a nice chat. I was on a mission to find a specific chica, and this one was not a substitute. I had on shorts with no underwear. Her touches started on the outside, but as soon as she felt a response she slid her hand up my pants and fondled me. At this point, she tried to close the deal, and I said no thank you, not today, i am looking for a particular chica named alejandre. (you can say this in baby spanish quite easily: "no, por favor, hoy me gusta chica particular. Alejandre de Bogota?").
She tried to tell me that Alejandre was out of the club shopping, but as I turned to leave, I ran into Alejandre, who had been watching me resist the little Dominicana! Since I was already hard, I hugged Alejandre tight, gave her a kiss on each cheek and pulled her onto my lap on a chair. By the way, I had previously only known her for 15 minutes during an earlier bar conversation from a couple of weeks before.
Alejandre is highly recommended - beautful, playful, curvy, and she has a solo room. no knocks on the door! YMMV (I used my [url=http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=412163&postcount=86]chica spanish for beginners on her.[/url]) She is the standard Columbiana height, which is short, natural largish breasts that she can shake without moving her body, long full hair with highlights.
Routard, Pogostick, Zing23,
Thanks for the compliments on the report. I am a very infrequent monger and was wondering how my report would be perceived. This is the type of acclaim that may actually make my mongering and reporting life more frequent. Also, thanks for the extra tips, i.e. Salsa and so on. I will most definitely have St. Maarten on my short list of places to visit in the near future again. I think this is the best Caribbean Island, offering good mongering (first and foremost), great beaches, gambling, bars and awesome restaurants.
I need to learn to remember the names and appearance of girls to be more informative to my fellow mongers.
Will be visiting St. Martin as part of a cruise with the girlfriend. We were thinking of stopping into Seamans for a threesome. Can anyone let us know if this is available at this club, and if so, what we are looking at for expense and time in the room?
Thanks!!
[QUOTE=Sexcruiser06]Will be visiting St. Martin as part of a cruise with the girlfriend. We were thinking of stopping into Seamans for a threesome. Can anyone let us know if this is available at this club, and if so, what we are looking at for expense and time in the room?
Thanks!![/QUOTE]
yes it is available. i have seen couples go in at seamans myself. if the two of you stand at the bar in carolina or seamans, the girls that are interested in providing a threesome will come up to you i am sure. the price is no doubt negotiable, but I would just offer the standard $40 (cuarenta dollars) and if they ask for $60 (sesenta), settle on $50 (cincuenta).
good luck and give us a report.
-zing
[QUOTE=Zing23]yes it is available. i have seen couples go in at seamans myself. if the two of you stand at the bar in carolina or seamans, the girls that are interested in providing a threesome will come up to you i am sure. the price is no doubt negotiable, but I would just offer the standard $40 (cuarenta dollars) and if they ask for $60 (sesenta), settle on $50 (cincuenta).
good luck and give us a report.
-zing[/QUOTE]We both greatly appreciate your response. Am I reading correctly in this thread that the standard time in the room is 20 min for $40? Thanks!
[QUOTE=Sexcruiser06]We both greatly appreciate your response. Am I reading correctly in this thread that the standard time in the room is 20 min for $40? Thanks![/QUOTE]
the "standard time" for $40 is somewhat flexible, but if you go over 30 minutes some small extra fees will be incurred. For example, at Carolina you pay $3 to use the room for about 25 minutes, plus time to shower, cleanup, etc. If you stay for an hour, the bar expects another $3. The girl is usually happy with another $30. At Seamans the girl pays for the room herself by the day and hopefully earns that back from the clients. My last visit I stayed one hour with a chica at Carolina and another stay for an hour with a chica at Seamans. I paid each $70 and they were happy.
BTW. The $40 "standard" is also negotiable - when I first started visiting the brothels I experimented with offering $30 and was quite often accepted, especially if there was only 1 cruise ship in the harbor!
Had a nice 2 hour session with [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=420013&postcount=99]Alejandre[/url] at Seamans - room 20.
I mentioned that I had come by at 11am and there were no chicas in the bar, so I went elsewhere for my first session. She told me that during the day time if you want to visit a particular chica and you know her room number, you can just walk back to the rooms and knock on the door. (At night when it is busier, they have a guard on the entrance and you must go with a chica). I have walked back to rooms during the day at Defiance also (pronounced "dee-fi-ya" by the chicas). And at Carolina the door to the "hotel" is now always open during the day - it used by locked with a numeric keypad before.
Spanish lesson for today: cuarto = room. noches = night.
Hello mongers,
I'd like to stay in a girl friendly hotel.
On the list given by the Routard, Captain Oliver seems to be rather cheap followed by Holland House.
Do you know whether they allow girls?
In any case, do you have an advice?
Zing23,
Great information in all of your recent posts. I'm frequently in St. Martin. I'd be interested in more information on Selina's if anyone had it.
[QUOTE=Zing23]Had a nice 2 hour session with [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=420013&postcount=99]Alejandre[/url] at Seamans - room 20.
I mentioned that I had come by at 11am and there were no chicas in the bar, so I went elsewhere for my first session. She told me that during the day time if you want to visit a particular chica and you know her room number, you can just walk back to the rooms and knock on the door. (At night when it is busier, they have a guard on the entrance and you must go with a chica). I have walked back to rooms during the day at Defiance also (pronounced "dee-fi-ya" by the chicas). And at Carolina the door to the "hotel" is now always open during the day - it used by locked with a numeric keypad before.
Spanish lesson for today: cuarto = room. noches = night.[/QUOTE]Just wanted to add our thanks for your help on this. We are looking forward to a fun time!
[QUOTE=Infinity]Great information in all of your recent posts. I'm frequently in St. Martin. I'd be interested in more information on Selina's if anyone had it.[/QUOTE]
I have never heard of Selina's, but will look around. What do you think it is?
BTW. Alejandre at Seamans told me that the filipino and chinese crew from the cruise ships only want to pay $30 (they are on a budget), but then they ask for "amor", not just "fucky fucky".
The idea of asking for amor to get GFE comes right from this thread of the ISG. Her response: if you insist on negotiating the chica down to her bottom price, don't expect a GFE with BBBJ that goes over the standard 20-25 minute time limit.
Do the cruise ships have internet access for the crew? Are they reading ISG to prepare for their visits to St Maarten?
-zing
Most cruise ships do have internet, so I would not be surpised if they do prepare theirselves for the girls in all the islands that they visit. that is how I knew what to expect in St.maarten myself.
Does anyone have any info on renting condos or apartments for a couple of days on the island? Let me know if you know anything that can help.
Chris H
[QUOTE=Infinity]Great information in all of your recent posts. I'm frequently in St. Martin. I'd be interested in more information on Selina's if anyone had it.[/QUOTE]Selina bills itself as a swingers club. Recently a group in St Maarten has been having a few themed parties there. You can usually find out about the parties on orientbeach.com personals forum.
I have been there once. I had contacted them about parties and was told that they could arrange a 1 on 1 party for me for $150 all inclusive. It includes a companion, drinks and you can spend the night (until 6am). I was told that the companion was totally voluntary and expected no tip. The $150 was for the house and drinks.
I was picked up at my hotel (travel inn in Simpson Bay) and taken to a beautiful villa not far from the hotel. It had an awesome view. There I met my date for the evening, a dark skinned girl from Santo Domingo. She was perfectly fluent in english.
She was dressed in a sexy evening dress. We had a bottle of good french red wine and talked and danced for a bit. Then we retired to the bedroom. She was quite lovely and VERY enthusiastic. There were toys available as well as massage oils, condoms etc.
We played and napped all night long. Mulitple shots on goal and I came in all possible orifices. Bareback at all times except for the backdoor fun. In the morning she made coffee and breakfast and then I got a ride back to the hotel.
Overall it was a very good experience. The girl was about 7 on looks, 9 on body and 10 on enthusiasm. It was really more like a good first date than anything else. No tip was asked for and I feel she would have been insulted had I offered.
I will probably try it again at some point but lately my focus has been on cruising the casas and getting 4 girls for the same prices as Selinas. I like the variety and the hunt. But Selinas was certainly worth the money.
pogo
Dear sailors and other silent readers,
It is OK to use my tricks, but then please follow my advice completely:
[QUOTE=Routard]
If she uses any word like "fucky...fucky", just correct her and reply you want GFE:"No quiero fucky fucky, quiero hacer el amor". This is my best advise. Never bargain the price, it is an offense to her, but instead ask for the best service.[/QUOTE]
Continuing the saga of the [url=http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=416792&postcount=93]three Valentinas[/url] at Carolina brothel: you will recall that I had a session with the 2nd of 3 chicas named Valentina when I couldn't repeat with #1.
Well in subsequent visits I got enamored of Viviana and Valentina #2 got mad at me. But I always talked to Valentina #3 and started to appreciate her more and more. Last visit, as I arrived Viviana was going off in a big SUV with some guys and another chica, so I ended up with Valetina #3 (from Bogota like #2).
Valentina is not a typical latina: taller, long blonde hair, natural I think since her eyebrows are pale blond and her skin is pale as well. Incredible natural breasts. Very deep and active DFK. Long DATY and BBBJ. Then she asks, do you want me to **** you or you to **** me? I chose to hop aboard and she was a very exciting and active partner.
Actually, she was the best session of the 3 valentinas. I think there is a lesson here somewhere.
-zing
Since this is my first written entry, I figured I should say that I'm a monger wannabe. Every one of you appears to know how this game works, and you each appear to play it very well. I recently inherited a very luxurious villa near Oyster Pond. I first visited St Maarten at the end of September 2005 when my relative died, and I acquired the villa. I went out looking for girls on the first night, hooked up, and regrettably ended up spending the entire week with the first girl that approached me at the Seaman's Club ....but I wanted so much more. We spent the entire week just pounding-away. I really wanted to cruise over to Casa Blanca, but the people in the parking lot looked me up and down like predators, which was reason enough for me to get back in my car and look elsewhere. I was pissed off too because I heard that Casa was the shit. I guess what it comes down to are several questions:
-Do I have to worry about guys eyeballing me and my car when I pull-up?
-How do I say no to one chica, then leave with her friend 5 minutes later without guilt or drama occurring?
-What is the average price for taking one home for an all-nighter?.....and is this practice allowed at all the clubs?
-Can you take 2 girls home?
-I want at least one of you to rank your top-3 clubs, and give explanations.
I plan on returning to the island in April and can't wait, but this time I wanna go back with a game-plan.
As far as the blood testing goes, at least at the Seaman's club, they test every Friday morning, and they supposedly test for EVERYTHING.
Anyway, I hope to be a more frequent contributor to this forum, and I hope to learn more from all of you.
FYI: An important piece of advice for anyone interested in visiting these places (especially if you take her back to your room): be respectful and act like a gentleman. They aren't used to being treated like a lady, and I can guarantee you that it will make all the difference in how well she serves you. Passion triggers greater sex than any amount of money ever could.
This post is slightly off topic – but I felt all of you were best prepared to answer it.
We have discussed the majority of the clubs on St. Maarten recently. Does anyone know how one would go about arranging for a gal – assumidly from Colombia, DR, or Venezuela to live with you for a month? I would be interested in a live in ‘maid’.
I know. I’m one of those guys that always eats all of his peas before he moves to the next thing on the plate – rather than sampling a little of everything.
On another note – I seem to fall for the Venezuelan women that I meet in St. Maarten. The majority seem to be from Cali, Colombia or Punta Cana, DR lately. Anyone know of any working Venezuelan girls at the moment?
I wanted to thank Pogostick for replying. I tossed an email to Selinas and their quoted price for a night was up to $250. Probably the normal busy season price boost as the Maho seems to have doubled its rates as well. Pogostick were you able to select the girl you were seeing – or have any input in your selection?
Based off of Zing23s report I met up with Viviana at Carolinas. She is a tall creamy coffee colored skin girl with long luxurious black hair. She had a quick smile and quickly singled me out once I entered. I was not surprised when she introduced herself as Viviana. A very enjoyable girl to have met.
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I was previously at a brothel on the dutch side as i followed some friends. However, i am unsure of the name of the place because i didn't see any signs upon entering, so i am asking you guys for some help!!! Here's the description. It is on the same road as the Seaman's club,(left side of road) just north of it though. This place is on the right side with a dirt parking lot on the left side of the road. There are several stairs to enter the place and when inside, the bar is rather tall and wide, you can barely reach over it. There is also a pool table in a separate room. The rooms for the girls are outside of the actual bar and up more stairs behind a gated door. A man is standing there with keys. The building looked painted white. The bathroom for the bar is outside of the club with a big metal door. Any Help PLEASE?
I was previously in St. Maarten on vacation with a few friends. However, we attended a brothel and I am unsure what the name of the place was. I was wondering if you guys can help me? We went there late at night with another group of people whom we followed. Here is the description of the place:
This place is on the same road as Seaman's Club. If you are driving north towards Oyster Bay, the Seaman's club is on the left. This place that I am referreing to is on the right side of the road with a dirt parking lot on the left side. I would say it is just about on the border between the dutch and french side. The building looked painted white. When you enter the place there are a lot of steps to go up into the bar and the place looked relatively old and beat up. Once inside, there is a small bar to order drinks which is relatively tall and wide. It makes it kind of hard to order drinks. There is also another room with a pool table. The girls take you outside of the bar and up a few more steps where there is a guy with keys standing in front of a gated entry. Any help would be appreciated?
Thanks
[QUOTE=Bachlur]-Do I have to worry about guys eyeballing me and my car when I pull-up?[/quote]
The later at night and the younger and more gang-like the guys, the more to worry about. Casa Blanca is the club that gets in the newspaper with occassional crime problems. Petite Chateau could probably have a rough crowd at night also, although I have only been there during the day time and had a fine time. During the day time, nothing to worry about at any of the clubs.
[quote]-How do I say no to one chica, then leave with her friend 5 minutes later without guilt or drama occurring?[/quote]
As you discovered, being a gentleman helps a lot. Read my posting [url=http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=412163&postcount=86]chica spanish for beginners[/url] and the ones it links to, and learn to say "no, por favor". I just started this hobby in Sept 2005, so you can go back and read all of my posts in this thread to see what I learned. Saying no thanks was the hardest. There is never any drama when you say no - tell her she is very beautiful, but you are looking for a particular chica (tu es muy hermosa, pero me gusta chica particular).
The part I am working on now is how to say no to the girl the next day, after a good session with her the day before. If you are a good customer: clean, attentive to her, not rough, tip well, then she will try to claim you as her own and act jealous if you go with other chicas. It is very hard to tell this apparently adoring creature that you prefer to sample a new chica today. I try to keep in mind that she will be adoring another guy right after me!
In the beginning, I just used the coward's approach: I went to a different brothel (this is not foolproof, because there is a chica tom-tom between the clubs). I have recently tried laughing at the first sign of possessiveness and saying that I am a bad boy who cannot resist a new chica! Perhaps some other members can suggest other ideas. In any case, always aknowledge the chicas that you know with a kiss on the cheek (unless they are working on a client), even if you are going with another.
[quote]-What is the average price for taking one home for an all-nighter?.....and is this practice allowed at all the clubs?[/quote]
Don't know. At Carolina there is a bar fine to pay the bartender (I think it is $35, but ask the bartender), then you negotiate with the girl. She will ask for $200, but that is too much. Especially if you have a luxury villa and treat her right. I would offer $80 to the girl and settle for $100-$120. Keep in mind that they are stuck in their little room at the brothel with no TV and no break from their job for 3 months. You have a luxury bathroom to offer, a comfortable bed, a nice breakfast, swimming pool or beach, sunshine, etc. She is giving up client income for the night, but on a week night, that may not be too many $.[quote]-Can you take 2 girls home?[/quote]
Of course, this is St Maarten! But I haven't tried it. I might worry about managing two chicas for an entire night. Why not try 2 chicas at the club first.[quote]
-I want at least one of you to rank your top-3 clubs, and give explanations.[/quote]
The answer to this question is in this thread if you read all the postings, but here is my personal summary. Keep in mind that I visit only during the day time, with rare exceptions:
#1. Carolina. Beautiful sexy girls from Columbia. The fewest hard-core aggresive clock watchers here. Also, because it is not as popular with the cruise ship crews (yet) and some girls do not share rooms (this month!), the sessions are less rushed. Almost no black girls since Sept.
#2. Seamans. Beautiful sexy girls from Columbia, Dominican Republic, Venezuela, Mexico and perhaps elsewhere. Time pressure when there are many cruise ships in the harbor. A few black girls.
#3. Defiance. Some beautiful sexy girls from Dominican Republic and Columbia. More black girls from both countries, one of whom has been my best find so far. No cruise crew. Fewer tourists.
[quote]FYI: An important piece of advice for anyone interested in visiting these places (especially if you take her back to your room): be respectful and act like a gentleman. They aren't used to being treated like a lady, and I can guarantee you that it will make all the difference in how well she serves you. Passion triggers greater sex than any amount of money ever could.[/QUOTE]
I agree with this 100%. The chicas are far from home, have a shitty job, and have to put up with some foul, aggressive, mean clients! Show some respect, try to speak Spanish no matter how limited, tell them how beautiful they are, and how beautiful their mother must be! You will be well rewarded.
-zing
Bachlur,
I agree 100% about Zinc's answers, including the brothels top 3. I simply would have given a more positieve answer about security issues, but I guess security perception is a personal matter.
I have been many times to the brothels on night time, I have never noticed any agressive attitude whatsoever apart from some girls in Casa Blanca who are sometimes too pushy. The bad guys you have noticed at the entrance where most probably simply taxi drivers waiting for customers, or they may have been the bouncers, as Casa Blanca indeed has some security guards sometimes. Why else would somebody wait outside as entrance is free?
Anyway, if you are sensitive about security issues, just skip Casa Blanca as it is the roughest brothel of Sint Maarten. Carolina is indeed the safest and the most relaxed of all, but Seamen's too, even if it is more crowded.
Just PM when you will be back in Sint Maarten.
[QUOTE=Scott D]This place is on the same road as Seaman's Club. If you are driving north towards Oyster Bay, the Seaman's club is on the left. This place that I am referreing to is on the right side of the road with a dirt parking lot on the left side. I would say it is just about on the border between the dutch and french side. The building looked painted white. When you enter the place there are a lot of steps to go up into the bar and the place looked relatively old and beat up. Once inside, there is a small bar to order drinks which is relatively tall and wide. It makes it kind of hard to order drinks. There is also another room with a pool table. The girls take you outside of the bar and up a few more steps where there is a guy with keys standing in front of a gated entry. Any help would be appreciated?Thanks[/QUOTE]
Most of your description matches Casa Blanca. Only thing wrong is that they have a big bar (perhaps it has been renovated since you were there). All the rest of your description is Casa Blanca exactly.
-zing
[QUOTE=Infinity]
We have discussed the majority of the clubs on St. Maarten recently. Does anyone know how one would go about arranging for a gal – assumidly from Colombia, DR, or Venezuela to live with you for a month? I would be interested in a live in ‘maid’.
[/quote]
The problem is immigration. The girl must have a visa to work in St Maarten. Without the visa, she cannot easily get into St Maarten from South America. I have talked to one girl who worked at 3 different brothels on her one visa, but had to go back home after 3 months. Another girl I met was so fed up with working at the brothel that she ran away to the French side and lived illegally with a guy she had met (not a good idea, since immigration has her passport and will require a bribe to give it back to her).
I would ask at one of the brothels if they could help you arrange what you want, for a fee. It would have to be with the manager, not just the bartender.
[quote]
On another note – I seem to fall for the Venezuelan women that I meet in St. Maarten. The majority seem to be from Cali, Colombia or Punta Cana, DR lately. Anyone know of any working Venezuelan girls at the moment?
[/quote]
Try Seaman's. Always seems to be a couple of Venezuleans working there.
[quote]Based off of Zing23s report I met up with Viviana at Carolinas. She is a tall creamy coffee colored skin girl with long luxurious black hair. She had a quick smile and quickly singled me out once I entered. I was not surprised when she introduced herself as Viviana. A very enjoyable girl to have met.
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Glad to be of service.
-zing
[QUOTE=Scott D]I was previously in St. Maarten on vacation with a few friends. However, we attended a brothel and I am unsure what the name of the place was. I was wondering if you guys can help me? We went there late at night with another group of people whom we followed. Here is the description of the place:
This place is on the same road as Seaman's Club. If you are driving north towards Oyster Bay, the Seaman's club is on the left. This place that I am referreing to is on the right side of the road with a dirt parking lot on the left side. I would say it is just about on the border between the dutch and french side. The building looked painted white. When you enter the place there are a lot of steps to go up into the bar and the place looked relatively old and beat up. Once inside, there is a small bar to order drinks which is relatively tall and wide. It makes it kind of hard to order drinks. There is also another room with a pool table. The girls take you outside of the bar and up a few more steps where there is a guy with keys standing in front of a gated entry. Any help would be appreciated?
Thanks[/QUOTE]This sounds like the Sunset Retreat. It's an old looking place and it is the only one that has the parking across the street. I have not been to it.
[QUOTE=Infinity]I wanted to thank Pogostick for replying. I tossed an email to Selinas and their quoted price for a night was up to $250. Probably the normal busy season price boost as the Maho seems to have doubled its rates as well. Pogostick were you able to select the girl you were seeing – or have any input in your selection?
I[/QUOTE]$250?? Ouch! That's a big increase! I had little input on the selection, although they did ask whether I like large, small, lite or dark skin, english speaking etc. But the girl that was there was the only one to choose from. It worked out fine for me as she really was very nice.
But at the new price, it's going to be only the brothels for me!
Pogo
[QUOTE=Zing23]Most of your description matches Casa Blanca. Only thing wrong is that they have a big bar (perhaps it has been renovated since you were there). All the rest of your description is Casa Blanca exactly.
-zing[/QUOTE]
Well, it seems to me that he is referring to Sunset Retreat.
[QUOTE=Routard]Well, it seems to me that he is referring to Sunset Retreat.[/QUOTE]
Good idea. I have never been inside Sunset Retreat.
[QUOTE=Infinity]
On another note – I seem to fall for the Venezuelan women that I meet in St. Maarten. The majority seem to be from Cali, Colombia or Punta Cana, DR lately. Anyone know of any working Venezuelan girls at the moment?
I[/QUOTE]There is a nice Venezuelan girl working under the name Cielo ("Sky") at Seaman's Club. She's 22, nice body, nice attitude, good service. Have fun!
[QUOTE=Infinity] Does anyone know how one would go about arranging for a gal – assumidly from Colombia, DR, or Venezuela to live with you for a month? I would be interested in a live in ‘maid’.
[/QUOTE]
Hi Infinity,
I would not recommend going with a girl for one month. Most of these chicas are probably not real full-time hookers, they do it in a short period of time far from their home country. That's probably why we sometimes get mechanical sex from them and sometimes genuine GFE. It is a matter of mutual chemistry. If you stay a month with her, it can be either a hell or a love story with serious consequences. Are you and is she mentally prepared for that?
Believe me, I have fallen in love many times, and I'm happy that everything is over next morning. I don't need to pay for the sex, I indeed pay for her to leave the next morning. I simply can not imagine living a one month love story and after leaving her again in her shit. We are all humans.
But may be you are looking not for sex but for a partner of life. In that case, this is probably not the best way to find it. I know several lovely beautiful well-educated honest virgin girls (well, I haven't checked the latest of course) that are desperately waiting for the man ready to love them, marry them and get them out of their shitty country. Even if I care for them, I can't and don't want to help them with that. If this is what you are looking for, then PM me, as we are seriously getting out of the scope of this forum.
An update on Selinas. Selinas is closed for the time being. Between road construction and code issues with their wiring they are having to rennovate.
What Routard says is very interesting and I agree with most of it. However, there are no hard and fast rules.
I had a GFE experience with a couple of chicas but clearly there did not intend at all to settle down.
There are also an intermediate experience I have had with a nice Colombian I met in a brothel. She came to visit me on two occasions, I paid for her ticket and gave her something before she left. So we spent two weeks together. There was no love but I enjoyed spending the time with her fantastic body. There was a good communication between us. She said she prefered to come and see me, have sex as much as I wanted, rather than staying with no jobs and no money or alternatively to come back to a brothel. This was very clear but I tried to have more romance but eventually it failed. If you want to try, PM me, she uses hotmail and can send you some sexy pictures of her, but my guess is that she would not like to have a similar experience with just anyone.
There have been few examples of marriage between clients and chicas, but this is very exceptionnal. Many of them want to earn enough money to buy their house or business, they can earn as much as 1500 USD a week (a single room house in Bogota cost about 15 000 USD) so their mood is not for long term relationship.
The problem I see in the "lovely beautiful well-educated honest virgin girls that are desperately waiting for the man ready to love them, marry them and get them out of their shitty country" is precisely the shitty country. How would you know they are really in love with you (do they even realize themselves?) rather than the situation you offer them.
But afer ll we are all humans. Yes Routard PM me their contact details, I want to give a try because having sex with chicas is for me a temporary experience until I find Mrs. Right.
I like to give small gifts (regalo) to the chicas - it's fun and rewarding!
When I was talking to one of the Columbianas at Seamans recently, she mentioned that the girls often feel cut off from home. They have their cellphones to get word from Columbia, but it is expensive. They have no TV of any kind, let alone Spanish language, let alone Columbian TV! All info in St Martin is in English, French, or Dutch, but seldom in Spanish.
So the next time I went to see her I look a printout of part of the El Tiempo newspaper from their web site: [url=http://eltiempo.terra.com.co/]http://eltiempo.terra.com.co/[/url]
El Tiempo is from Bogota, but has sub-sections on Cali, Medelin, etc., as well as Sports (desportes), fashion, culture, music, etc. This gift was a big hit - today's scandals and news from home, delivered direct to the brothel!
The only problem is that the web layout shows mostly only the headlines - you have to click down to get the detailed article. So now I pick a couple of articles that sound interesting and print out the details too, as well as the national headlines, and the headlines from a few sub-sections.
I printed El Tiempo again this week, with a complete article on the Columbian singer Juanes, and gave my gift to a girl from Cali at Petite Chateau. She immediately read the entire thing, cover to cover! She tried to give it back and when I told her it was a gift for her and her amigas, I thought she was going to cry.
[QUOTE=Routard] I don't need to pay for the sex, I indeed pay for her to leave the next morning. [/QUOTE]Heh heh...I thought that deserved repeating.
Airfare to SXM. $350
Hotel. $100 a nite
Great sex with a beautiful hot, young Latina. . $40
Not having the be I t see h hound ya the next day. PRICELESS!
Pogostick,
I feel I need to clarify a bit my opinion as I don't want to sound it as a lack of respect for the girls. On the contrary, I respect too much women to let them believe in a romance as I just want sex from them.
By the way, believe it or not, I don't pay for the travel expenses, it indeed just costs me 40$. :)
Zing23,
Excellent idea that newspaper thing! Take care, some seamen will also come with a piece of paper to get "hacer l'amor" for 30$!
Jan Chris,
Of course, nothing is either black or white, everything is grey, dark or clear! It is just to make my explainations more easy to understand. I have also had a true love story with a SP, but it was 20 years ago before I was married. I cared a lot for her, but I knew I didn't want her to be the mother of my children. I took great care of her, I helped her to get out of the job, I found her a new job, a new appartment, new friends, and then I left her forever. Thanks for your reaction anyway.
[QUOTE=Routard]Pogostick,
I feel I need to clarify a bit my opinion as I don't want to sound it as a lack of respect for the girls. On the contrary, I respect too much women to let them believe in a romance as I just want sex from them.
By the way, believe it or not, I don't pay for the travel expenses, it indeed just costs me 40$. :)[/QUOTE]I'm in full agreement with you. I love and respect the girls and treat them like ladies. I am there to have sex with someone young enough to make me feel young again. While I seek out the GFEs, it is still just a business deal. (It's a business doing pleasure with you)
Once while in a past relationship I had a weekend affair with a tourist in Jamaica. I had been honest with her about my being in a relationship at home and that this was just for the weekend. So of course she calls me at home the next week and caused me a ton of grief. No provider has ever done that and that's what I pay them for.
To me, the greatest joy of mongering is to know that it is only for the sex and never having to worry about her trying to take it to the next level.
I wish I didn't have to pay for the travel. Are you on a ships crew? I travel for business so at least it is deductable. Mongering just happens to be my favorite after work activity.
Pogo
Viviana at Carolina is going back to Columbia on Tuesday, so I thought I should suggest some other names.
A new find is Lina Maria. Tallish for a Columbiana. Dark hair pulled back from her face, big earings. She has a classic look like the young mistress of a large hacienda - her room was immaculate and super clean and does not seem to be shared with another girl!
She looks a bit more formal, since she has perfect arched eyebrows - turns out they are tattoos (I had heard of this but never seen it in person). Natural and extremely yummy breasts. Perfect body. She was a slight bit more reserved than the others at first, until her orgasm, then she melted. I liked her a lot. I want to repeat, but there are so many cute chicas at Carolina.
How important to the chicas do you think our dollars are?
I was at Carolina in the afternoon and noticed that they have added a spanish language channel to their TV (univision from the usa I think). My favorite show title on this channel is "Gorda y Flaca" (fat and skinny). At the bar I watched a bit of Spanish TV (from Mexico I think) and read the subtitles to work on my Spanish.
While I was walking back to the bar from a session at 230pm, I noticed 6 or 7 very cute chicas sitting on the sofa inside the "hotel" lobby (which is beyond the bar), eyes glued to a Spanish language Soap Opera on the TV there.
Back in the bar there were 8 or 10 men, sitting and drinking, waiting for chicas! Shows us what the priorities of the chicas are, at least with the novelty of a new Spanish TV channel.
If you come into Carolina in the afternoon and find the bar empty of chicas, first check the restaurant next door (where they eat lunch and where you can see them in bright light!) and then just slide through the door to the "hotel" (under the sign that says "Gentleman's VIP Club") and join them on the sofa.
When I was in Petite Chateau about 2 weeks ago I met 5 chicas who had just arrived from Columbia in the previous few days. I bought them all a drink and started making friends/future plans. The cutest one is just way too small for me, but there was one girl with very beautful features. I looked in last week, but did not see her, so just chatted with 2 of the other Colombianas.
Today I dropped in and spotted the one who appealed to me again: she is Leny from Medellin (a girl from Medellin is called a "paisa") , light skinned, light hair color, light brown eyes, young looking face and body (but has an 11 year old son), small breasts, nice curvy hips and buns. Started a fairly regular and perfunctory session, then I gave her a back massage which she reciprocated. The session then got a lot more GFE. After, we snuggled in bed and talked for a long time, then took a shower together. She has her own room, so no problems with knocks on the door. Dropped the std $40 on the dresser and gave her a copy of today's newspaper from [url=http://eltiempo.terra.com.co/]El Tiempo's web site[/url] in Bogata.
I was in Petite Chateau because there were 4 cruise ships in the harbor today. Carolina was packed with sailors and passengers and never more than 3 or 4 girls free at any one time. Tried one session, but the girl was way too popular - I spotted her when she deposited one client at the bar, then went into the restaurant and then came over to the bar at my signal. Our session went overtime a bit and she had to run off because she had another client waiting in the restaurant where she had left him eating lunch while she went with me! She did the best she could, but she just had too many customers, and her cellphone kept ringing also.
The parking lot at Seamans was completely full, so I didn't even go in there.
Petite Chateau had only 1 or 2 cruise people while I was there. One tourist asked me about renting a villa for a month - I wonder if that was one of our posters here, Infinity, who was asking about a girl for a month!
Also dropped by Defiance and talked again to a cute morena (dark skinned mulatto) chica from Cali (a girl from Cali is called a Caleña). When I was there last week, she wanted me to drive her to the police station to sign her immigration visa - as an inducement she flipped up her miniskirt to show me that she wasn't wearing any underwear. She must have gotten her visa straightened out without my help. Added her to my list of possibles for next week. No cruise people at Defiance either.
Sunset Retreat was closed in the afternoon.
Casa Blanca was open, but quiet. 4 nice black chicas in the bar, with 4 local black guys - no cruise crowd - the other chicas were outside talking or in the restaurant watching tv and eating. one girl followed me in from the outside, but she did not appeal to me. did not see anyone that would make me rush back. probably a much better crowd of chicas later in the day/night. toured the restaurant, which looks slightly better than the ones at Carolina and Defiance.
Tried visiting Crystal Club a few times that last few weeks (it is across the street from Carolina). Quiet and sad in the afternoon. Few chicas, none of whom appealed to me. No customers. Drinks are cheaper!
-zing
I got to St Maarten Thursday afternoon and after checking into my hotel to freshen up a bit I headed out to do the tour.
It was around 6pm and all the houses were really slow. Most of the places only had 2-3 cars in the parking lot. I like moderate activity when I monger. Too few clients and you are swarmed by hungry chicas. Too many and the choice is slim. Moderate crowds gives you a chance to sit back and observe for a while and still get a good choice when you are ready.
I decided to go into Defiance. Mainly to see if their BBQ was open. (they have some decent ribs and chicken) Unfortunatly. It was not open yet. So I headed to the bar to see if I could get a beer. It is elections time in St Maarten and no alcohol is allowed to be sold anywhere on the Dutch side for the 3 days that there is voting. The bartender obviously had not heard about it because I had no problem getting a beer.
I was the only customer in the place and there were 3 girls. None really appealed to me. One of them came over and started the usual moves. She was a Negrita from Colombia named Marianna with very large breasts and not my usual taste in a gal. But. She got the little stick ready to bounce so I gave her a try.
It started out pretty good. She was flirty and provocative and was pretty enthusiastic. But after I came it was like someone turned off a light switch. She became very silent and almost vacent. She just wanted to lay in bed and stare at the ceiling. It was almost as if she was trying to delay going back to the bar. Finally I got up and got dressed. She got up, gave me a peck on the cheek and said good bye. It was the very first time that a girl did not walk me back to the bar. Overall. Not the best experience, but that is how it goes sometimes.
One good note. Defiance now sells Vitamins V and C at the bar! It is the real thing and not a generic. I spent $20 for a Vitamin C and headed home for the nite.
Last nite I was tied up with business until about 9. I swallowed the Vitamin C and headed out to prowl. Petite Chateau was packed as the circus is in town and is riight near them. A lot of guys drop their wife and kids off at the circus and walk down to Petite Chateau. I drove by Carolinas but they were very busy as well. Seamans lot was full and I passed Defiance so I could avoid seeing Marianna. So I went to Casa Blanca.
Was able to buy a beer (still illegal) and settled back to see what was on the menu. There were a fair amount of good looking gals. I caught the eye of a very tall, thin girl with long black hair. She came over and I bought her a beer.
Her name is Clara Luz from Santo Domingo. She was dark skinned, but with a definate latin flavor as opposed to West Indian. She and I had an interesting, totally bi-lingual conversation. I speak very little Spanish, and she speaks very little English. She just chatted away in Spanish, I replied in English and we both pretty well understood each other. It actually felt pretty natural. After a lot of hugging, dancing and touching (her ass felt SO NICE in my hands) we headed to her room.
She was a bit shy about removing her bra and seemed to be embarrassed. She apologized for being so small. I happen to be a charter member of the itty-bitty-titty fan club so I was in heaven. I assured her that she was perfect and that like a chile piquena. The smaller the pepper, the hotter the taste. I gave those little things a lot of attention. They are exactly a mouthfull with nice big dark nipples. She was so pleased and relieved that I liked her little ones. I think she was actually pretty close to cumming just from the attention I paid to them.
She then pushed back on the bed, popped a condom in her mouth and got it on with just one quick plunge. She gave me a couple of good deep throats, but seemed very eager to get me inside her. She hopped on in full cowgirl. Feet planted on the bed and riding up and down like a madwoman. She was positioned to get me as deep inside her a possible.
Thanks to the Vitamin C, I was large and strong and even stayed hard after I came. She just kept grinding away. She came really hard. Her eyes rolled back in her head and there was a hot gush inside her. That turned me on even more and we just kept going. She came hard again with another hot gush and after a while I came a second time in perfect timing with her third one. I could definately tell that these were NOT fakes. She got wet enough to soak the bedspread. This was also the first time I have ever busted a nut twice in one condom with no rest period.
She walked me all the way out to my car were we kissed and touched a bit more. We almost did it again right there, but we had no condoms with us. I will be going back there again tonight. You can bet on that! I am getting hard again, just thinking about it.
So far this trip shows the complete range of mongering experiences available in St Maarten. From dissapointing to overwhelming. Mongering is like a box of chocolates. You never know what you are going to find until you taste it.
Pogo
Hey Pogostick, where do you stay when you go to this paradise island? I am looking for a hotel that is girl-friendly or a nice apartment to stay in for 3 or 4 days. Any advice from anyone will be helpful.
Chris H
I was in Sint Maarten for 24 hours. My plan was to try for a change an all-nighter with a chica. I had booked a nice hotel room with king size bed at Oriental bay. I took my rental car to head for the clubs. My initial plan was to choose a girl, having dinner with her in a romantic restaurant, bringing her to a night club for dancing, having fun in a casino before heading back to the hotel. But I had a bad experience with the last all-nighter experience in Dominican Republic (check my report in the DR thread). I was afraid to choose again the wrong chica. And as soon as I entered Seamen’s Club, it was again the same feeling as usual, I was like a child in a candy store. All those lovely chicas, I wanted to fuck them all! I decided that before my romantic night, there was nothing wrong with a quick relief. Once back from the room after my first fuck, I was already thinking about who could be my second fuck, forgetting all my previous romantic plans. I decided to have a look at nearby Carolina, as the 20 girls to choose from in Seamen’s were not enough.
Once out of the club, I remembered my initial plan, and I entered Carolina with a different mood. I have to say Carolina has also a much more relaxed atmosphere. I started to chat with a few chicas, had a drink with them and asked around for all-nighter pricing. I was surprised about the high pricing, probably due to the high season. Door pricing was still 45$ in Carolina and 65$ in Seamen’s, asking price was still 300$. But last time it could easily be negotiated down to 150$. This time, a very few were ready to go for 200$, but most didn’t want to go for less than 250$. On the other hand, most confirmed they were ready to go for an all-nighter at 150$ without door fee after closing time (2am for Seamen’s and 3am fro Carolina). This means no time for romantic evening, but going back straight with her to the hotel room. Beside the chica choice, I was also wondering now which option to choose. I believed that the best way to think about it was after a second fuck. So back again to the room with a chica.
Her name was Sofia. She was the only girl in the club that had no miniskirt, but was dressed as a regular girl. Once in her perfect clean room I noticed how beautiful she was. She had an extremely sweet and soft attitude, and I realized how stupid I was ignoring all my own previous recommendations about how to approach the girls with a BFE attitude in order to get the best GFE. She undressed, and had the most perfect imaginable body. At first I believed that her perfect C cupped breast just couldn’t be natural, but they were! She was in her early 20’s and I learned later from her that she did a lost of sport. Even if I had acted as an asshole before, the session turned out to be perfect. After a nice BBBJ, she took a cowgirl position and slipped her tight pussy on my dick. I needed to check with my hand to be sure she had put on a condom, as I really hadn’t noticed anything. Fortunately it was my second session, else I would have ejaculated right away. I loved to feel her soft skin and perfect body on my own body. She kissed tenderly and moved slowly, I wished those magic minutes could last forever. We had several positions, but finished in missionary. I think she enjoyed also although she didn’t come. She seemed sad when it was finished, I guessed she wanted also to have her orgasm. But she didn’t tell anything about it, as she had a discrete personality.
At the end of the session, I preferred to escape from her sight and went back to Seamen’s. In the club I recognized a familiar face. Yes, it was Anji, I remembered her very well, as she was the first SP I managed to give a genuine orgasm. She recognized me also, she left her customer and came right to me. It was already a few years ago, I imagine she could have had thousands of sexual encounters in between, so I was quiet proud to be remembered among those thousands of men. She remembered everything, and was surprised that I could remember her also, but I have had way less sexual encounters than her. But my last memory of her was a shy girl, embarrassed to show her A cupped breast while undressing in front of a man (me) that seemed to make a big impression on her. Now, probably after those thousands of sexual encounters, she had lost all her innocence and had even enhanced her breast! I decided it was better to keep up with my good memories and not to go with her and be disappointed.
I quickly noticed another chica, she was real sexy! Time was running up, I had to choose for an all-nighter. I wondered if it could be her. But she had already grabbed me to her room, and I was starting my third session. She asked to be paid 50$ upfront (normal price is 40$). A warning started to blink in my head, but my dick just wanted to fuck that lovely ass. It turned out to be the most horrible session I have ever had in Sint Maarten. She didn’t want me to kiss her (it happens sometimes), but she also didn’t want me to touch her breast. I guessed it was maybe painful for some reason, so I respected that. But she kept complaining each time I touched her with my hands. At one moment, she became angry, asking me to fuck her only and leave my hands from her body. That was it. I lost immediately my erection. I remember a few girls in real life that didn’t want to go further than flirting and refused penetration, which I respect. But I have never experienced before, neither in real life than in my mongering life any girl which didn’t like to be caressed by me. She asked “Que pasa?”, but I’m a gentleman, I just didn’t want to argue with her. I dressed up and left, shivering about the idea that I could have chosen her for an all-nighter.
I went back straight to Carolina, grabbed Sofia and asked her for an all-nighter. She was ready to come with me at closing time for 150$ without door fee, but I was tired and didn’t want to wait that long. So I agreed for 200$, and paid the 45$ door fee. I had no cash money anymore to pay her, but she was confident and said I could pay next morning. Yes, she was the girl I had to go with from the beginning, what an asshole I was to wait that long! There was no time anymore for fun outside, we went straight to the hotel. We took a shower and entered naked in bed. We chatted for a while tenderly enlaced. Even if we were both tired, we made love together before we felt asleep. I woke up next morning, she was still sleeping, perfectly secured. I took a shower, and when I came back in bed, she opened her eyes and smiled. These are probably the best moments of an all-nighter. She came in my arms, asking for tenderness. I offered her to have breakfast, but she asked me to have sex before. Yes, she asked for it, and it wouldn’t make her earn more money! How nice to have sex when the girl asks for it!
After the sex, I wanted to show her the beach. She had fun as we were at the limits between the nude section and the dressed section of Oriental Beach, a mixed area, some had bathing clothes, others were nudes. She had no bathing clothes with her, so we wondered to go naked, but time was running. She had to be back before 11am.
We went for breakfast. This was the most funny part of the story. A kind of remake of “Pretty woman”, except that I was not Richard Gere. She was maybe not Julia Roberts too, but she definitely looked like Jennifer Lopez in her early 20’s. We were in one of the better hotels of Sint Maarten, so most tourists were older american couples. Needless to say, all the guys had the eyes glued to the bomba latina. She felt uncomfortable, she was probably believing that everyone would notice she was a hooker. But that was definitely not, as she was normal dressed and had an extremely well educated and discrete attitude. They all looked at her because she was simply incredible beautiful. And I was the guy they all envied because I was the happy one that fucked her that night. She probably noticed how proud I was to be with her and she started to feel more confident. She went to the buffet. I had fun looking at her, she exchanged a few polite sentences with an embarrassed smiling guy, glued eyes, mouth wide open and tongue reaching the floor; he didn’t even notice how angry his ugly wife looked at the scene. Yes, she smiled, and I was happy for her. She was not anymore a simple hooker, she had found back her dignity and was again a charming young and proud woman. We had breakfast, and if she had been until now very discrete about her personal life, she naturally started to talk about her life in Colombia, her family and her future projects. She finally had opened her heart and soul to me. I wished I could stay another night with her. But time was flying, I had to bring her back before 11am, and I had also to take some cash before to pay her. Once in the car, I handed her over the printed Colombian newspaper, following Zing’s advice. At first she was very happy with it, started to read the news while driving. But most news in Colombia were bad news of course, which made her sad. She was homesick, and I felt sorry leaving her like that, but I couldn’t find the Spanish words to explain my own feelings for her.
Anyway, I had my own meeting at 11am, it was with Zing. We recognized us easily, he also had the typical ISG member profile described earlier during the ISG meeting held in FKK World last december [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=413652&postcount=1113[/url] . We had a lot of things to tell each other, as there are a lot of things that can not be written on the public board. After a drink we had sex (not together of course, each his own chica! :D), lunch and left both back to our normal life. Nice to have met you Zinc! ;) And sorry Pogostick we missed us as you had left a couple of hours before I arrived in Sint Maarten.
Regarding the all-nighter experience, here what I have learned from it: don’t pretend to make it in one night. The first night, go to the brothels and fuck as much girls as possible. This will allow you to sample and to find the perfect gem for the next night. The second night you will be also in a more romantic mood as the sexual pressure has already been released.
Another thing that I've learned, is that if you have an all-nigther and the magic occurs between her and you, well...I've left Sint Maarten since a few days, but I'm still thinking about her.
"Feel it in your heart and feel it in your soul.
All night long!"
I'm taking a cruise that ports in St. Maarten on a Tuesday from 9 a.m. to 3 p.m.
Am I still going to be able to do some mongering?
Can anyone give me advice on the best places to go in such an off time for something like this?
Which place is best in the daytime?
Thanks for your help!
Doug
Dougief,
No problem to go to the clubs if coming from a day cruise ship, you will probably even meet there some of the seamen from your ship. Carolina and Seamen's are the two clubs to try, they are both at a 5min taxi drive from the pier. Any taxi will bring you there. The other clubs open later in the afternoon. Casablanca is also open during daytime, but as it is too far from the pier, there is nearly no action on daytime.
Carolina is open from 11am till 4pm and from 7pm till 3am.
Seamen's is open from 11am till 2am.
By the way, here another info I've noticed during my last stay: several brothels sell Viagra at the bar.
Yes, everything is possible in Sint Maarten!
There is now a good supply of cute Columbian chicas in all the clubs of St Maarten. And some do not have many clients. Here is why:
Seamans and now Carolina are the 2 places that cruise ship crew and passengers go to at the moment. When there are 4 cruise ships in the harbour, those 2 places are packed. sessions are rushed, rooms are in short supply, and there can be frustrations. They open at 11am.
Less than a kilometer away at Petite Chateau and Defiance, there are new batches of cute and friendly girls from Columbia, who have mostly a few local clients. No crews from the cruise ships (who the chicas tell me are quite nice clients, in spite of being on a budget) and no passengers either.
I previously reported on Leny in rm 6 at Petite Chateau, but there is another very cute girl there named Valentina with black hair and chic dark glasses who I intend to try next visit. Petite Chateau opens in the early afternoon (130pm-2pm)
Defiance opens the doors about 1230pm. The last 2 times I was there, I saw 15 girls just sitting around doing their nails, talking and eating lunch, waiting for clients. I talked to 3 girls from Medellin and chose Sara - perfect body, implants, nice face, a little reserved for me (no tonque kissing), but nice. Rm 231 upstairs.
Next time I went with Alejandra from Medellin, rm 210 downstairs. Long black hair, short, cute face, nice natural b cups, an 5 extra kilos on her body, but young, smooth and very GFE (YMMV - I started by giving her a long massage and DATY). Was in her room (clean and large) for an hour. Left $40 on the dresser at the end. She told me that she did not have a choice in which club she went to - she wanted Seamans, but ended up at Defiance.
Attention cruise ship people: these girls are pining away for customers (and attention). Petite Chateau is closer to the boats than Seamans, and Defiance is just up the hill from Seamans on the same road. Just have the taxi driver take you an extra kilometer to Defiance. Why not have a girl who isn't rushed and appreciates a tourist face!
When it is time to leave, ask any guy you see if there is a taxi - if there is no taxi driver, he will probably offer you a ride for $10. Or you could just walk down the hill to Seamans.
-zing
Mongering is like a box of chocolates. You never know what you are going to find until you taste it.
Pogo[/QUOTE]Great Report. I miss my days in St Maarten last year. I only had 3 nights there. But I had a good tour guide. I had a few GFEs at Casablanca and Seamans. I think you were dead on about the range of chicas you can find there.
For Valentines, I made visits to my favorites at Seamans and Carolina, leaving gifts and having a great time.
After about 3 hours, I went to Petit Chateau to see if any of my Columbiana friends there would like a valentine gift. When I got there, the bartender (she is the best looking girl in the place, but doesn't seem available) pointed out two girls who were new, so I went over and sat between them.
Leslie is from Cuba, cute, mixed Indian-Hispanic features, very yummy natural breasts, and Anji from Santo Domingo (large natural breasts, too much makeup for my taste) stroked me and helped me with my Spanish and were generally very sexy without being too aggressive. They suggested a threesome for Valentines Day, but I protested that I had already been with 2 other girls that day.
They were so sympatico that eventually I decided to give them two of my remaining Valentine gifts. This surprised them a lot, leading to a lot of kisses and caresses. I decided they were the pair that would be my first threesome, so I said yes, lets go to the room.
In Leslie's room (#13), I put a latina cd on the player (Rosana's greatest hits, chicas like this a lot), and within a minute I was stripped and had a condom on and had Leslie sucking my cock while Anji sucked my balls. Somehow the girls shed their clothes, but I always had someone on my cock, no matter what I was doing (lots of positions, DFK, DATY, switching girls and condoms, etc.)
Really quite natural and wonderful, non-stop sensations. Leslie was the leader, introducing lesbian action and massaging me from the rear when I was busy with Anji. They were prepared to go on, but finally I called a halt. My senses were overloaded and I wasn't going to come. Not after 2 previous times. Leslie understood and explained to Anji.
I left each with $40 and a Latina CD - smiles all around. Leslie gave me a Marck Anthony CD - first time a chica has given ME a gift!
-zing
[QUOTE=Zing23]Leslie gave me a Marck Anthony CD - first time a chica has given ME a gift!
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Good news if Cubanas come to Sint Maarten, I love Colombianas, but Cubanas....
At Carolina there is a complete new set of chicas, mostly from Columbia. Only 2 left that I recognize from the previous crew. Lots of cute talent to sample, so little time....
At Seamans there are also lots of new girls, although not a complete turnover. My current favorite amiga is selecting a girl that she thinks is right for me, tranquilo, not rushed, sexy, to replace her when she leaves on mar 2! I asked if she was going to auction me off on e-bay.
At Defiance, Alejandre from Medellin has moved to room 210. But she hopes to move to Seamans next week....
At Petit Chateau, Leslie the cubana in rm 13 who was part of my threesome, has grey eyes - i never noticed last visit! very unique. and she fakes the most intense, convincing orgasm, building up over 10 minutes, then later laughes about it. She told me, if we really orgasmed with the clients, we would fall asleep and miss the next one.... a very educational hour for $40.
all in all, a good afternoon.
-zing
I have arrived yesterday in St Maarten and here are my first impressions :
- Description and location of the brothels by Routard and other mongers are accurate but you'd better look at them during daytime ;
- Casa Blanca is full of Dominican no Colombians.
- Yes Carolina tend to have better looking girls ;
- Petit Chateau and Sunset retreat are patronised by locals and I have not found any attractive girls.
Further details will come one I will have tried several chicas.
NB : There are few internet cafes here : Found one on airport road, two in Grand Case. On Sunday, go to Republic Street in Marigot.
LOL man. To me you seem you are either daydreaming or a cuban pimp
What in the name you mean by paying in advance. Funny how you just let that "slip". LOL
To anyone reading this please be advised that paying in advance to a girl that you just met will almost suerlly lead you in gettng poorer quality service even if you are Brad Pit LOL
And make sureu talk about price ahead. A hooker will never never never be impressed of you giving her compliments. Treat her nice, etc but business is bussines, never forget that
This is now my third day in St-M and I have now a better impression of the girls and service available.
For sure, SXM is far better in terms of choice than Trinidad. I ended up to visiting only Seeman's and Carolina. Casa Blanca has more girls but all from the Dominican Republic, which means they are all black, which is not my first choice.
In Seeman's you'll find a girl with a body to die for, like the ones you see in Playboy magazines : tall, nice C/D cup breast, long blond hair, provocative. Her name is Carolina I think. Unfortunately, she does not provide good service and I was disapointed.
In Carolina, I would recommend Luna, same sort of body, but her sevice was better. Unfortunately, Sofia (see Routard's report) is gone!
A lot of girls have silicone breasts but in most of the cases they really look natural : incredible what the surgeons can do nowadays!
My general impression is that the level of service is not very high, because there are a lot of clients, and the chicas do not need to keep you as a regular customer. I was surprised however to see that they come and talk to you rather than the locals, but I suspect they charge you more. Sometimes, they will put their hands in intimate places, which I do not like (don't they know that the desire comes from the brain, not the sex?). On the other hand, the atmosphere is relaxing and I like to be here with them.
More will follow.
Had a very enjoyable session with Patricia at Defiance. She is pretty and black, from Columbia, with a very fit body - not an ounce out of place. Small breasts. Anglo facial features.
Started with a lot of kissing and caressing as we stripped. Gave her a back massage, and rubbed my cock on her perfect little ass. When I massaged her legs and feet, she spread her legs a bit. I stroked her pussy and ass from behind and she was wet, so I took a smell. Yummy, so I sucked her pussy and ass. Then flipped her over for DATY. When these chicas like something, or want you to think they like it, they murmer "rico".
She went for the condom, but I asked if she would suck without the condom (chuparme sin condon). Excellent BBBJ, deep, interrupted for a minute when she got one of my pubic hairs caught in her throat (is this more detail than you want or need?)
Several enthusiastic positions later, I finished and we took a shower.
Recommended. $40. Rm 212 ?
P.S. She dances naked during the Happy Hour. Not sure of the time, but perhaps 6-8pm on Sunday? Patricia wears a snap-open leotard and no panties - in case you need a sample in the bar.
I have been now one week in SXM and even decided to extend my stay, as I finally enjoyed mongering here.
1) Places and working hours
As said in my previous posts, some places open from 11am or 2pm, but of course the choice will be limited. There is however a timeframe you should avoid : between 6pm and 8pm, there is almost no one. The girls are either resting before the long night to come, or going out to lunch.
Casa Blanca and Sunset Retreat have only Dominican girls. This means that there are almost all blacks and have no implants. If you like black girls with small breasts, this is an option. Otherwise, try other places.
Seaman's and Carolina are the best places to my point of view (the girls are better looking). The places refered as "714" and "Unknown" in an old post are nothing but Carolina and Crystal (where I never found more than 3 girls at the same time).
2) Service and clients
As I wrote earlier, the level of service is not the best I have seen. In Trinidad (a country which I will NOT recommend for mongering) I had better experiences, but this was exceptional and due to the fact that I was the only educated/decent European in a middle of local Afro-Indo Trinidadians, and maybe I was not very lucky up to now in SXM. The better looking girls are not always the ones who provide the best service.
I have not met any girl here who kiss with tongue, and as I was asking few of them, they found it "discusting". However some do a very nice session (see my report for some of them hereafter).
Asking if they refused to have sex with some of the patrons, the answer was clearly "yes". What they do is that they charge them so much that they will have to refuse. African descent men are particularly blacklisted, for a reason I would not mentionned to be politically correct. This raises an ambivalent point of view :
- on the one hand, I feel sorry for them, because the basic rule of prostitution is that if you can afford it, you should be able to have sex with the most beautiful girls of the world. You can have the ones you would never be able to seduce in the real world, even if you are rich. Those who are even denied that possibility must be extremally frustrated, and it is unfair ;
- on the other hand, I am happy to see that the chicas are free to pick and choose, they are not merely sex slaves. I think the freedom to refuse to have sex even for a prostitute should be a basic right and we cannot deny them that.
3) My experience with some chicas
In Seaman's, I started to have a session with Carolina, the "playboy" body I mentionned earlier. Disapointing. Similarly disapointing was my session with Johanna, a red hair girl with quite large natural breast.
Then I tried with Sarah. She is the youngest chica of Seaman (19 years old) slim with a long black hair. Everything is small, cute and adorable with her : her lips, her mouth, and ... her pussy. Yes, she has a tight one, and if you have a more than an average size asset, I would recommend to try someone else, because you will not only hurt her, but intercourse is likely to be uncomfortable for you as well. Anyway, she is not the kind of girl you will have great sex with. I took her for the all night however, and had a great orgasm because of my strong desire, not thanks to her average service.
In Defiance, I had a nice session with Amalia. Dark skinned young girl with big implants. I liked her personnality and I intend to see her once more before I leave.
In Carolina, my favourite place (do they select the girls?), I had some sessions with three diferent girls :
- Luna, a tall, very slim, long blond hair Colombian. Her breast are siliconed but not too big which is good given her very slim waist. She has a provocative attitude which I could have done without but sex was great. I thought I would take her for the night, but...
- I met Lucia, 20 years old, black hair, implants but they look natural. She is soft and she is not the kind of girls that will provoque you with suggestive attitude. A very quite personnality. I had two sessions and I think I would like to have her as a friend rather than a lover, not that she is not good, but her personality is really nice.
- I had two sessions with Valentina. At first, I did not notice her. She is tall and has a long black hair. 23 years old. What happened is that she did a strip dance, and when she took out her bra, I realized she had a really natural C cup breast bouncing and exciting my senses. She is the kind of girls which is perfectly confortable with this job. She knows how to please a man. When I told her I decided to take her for the night, she was really delighted and extremelly happy.
They all are because they know they will earn as much as in one night and be able to sleep well. Of course, one of the problem is that all these girls are financially very interested. I do not negociate the tarifs, because I think they are quite low for what they are doing (think that you will spend at least 400 USD for an hour session in Europe!). On the other hand I have to limit their pretentions (tip or "propina", they aslo ask if you can buy them telephone cards, etc.) otherwise they will just consider you as a mere walking wallet. To my point of view, Valentina is the less financially interested. She never ask anything, gives you the change if you give her more...
4) Accomodation and Cars
Last but not least, I'd like to mention that I rented a car through internet with Payless Car Rental. They had the cheapest rate (29 USD/day).
I started to stay in Captain Oliver's : very good location for our business, nice rooms, best value for money, girls friendly (anyway the reception closes at 11pm). I am changing to Colombus this afternoon, just in front of Captain Oliver's, because they are cheaper (92 EUROs breakfast included).
[QUOTE=Jan Chris]. There is however a timeframe you should avoid : between 6pm and 8pm, there is almost no one. The girls are either resting before the long night to come, or going out to lunch.
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I agree completely. I visited all the brothels Sat night around 7 and found only a handful of girls in 5 places! This is a good time to have your dinner.
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In Carolina, I met Lucia, 20 years old, black hair, implants but they look natural. She is soft and she is not the kind of girls that will provoque you with suggestive attitude. A very quite personnality. I had two sessions and I think I would like to have her as a friend rather than a lover, not that she is not good, but her personality is really nice.
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I met Lucia on her first day at Carolina. She saw me looking around and asked if I was looking for my amiga. I said yes and she told me I would have to wait. We had a very nice chat - she has no children, instead she has a dog and showed me pictures on her cellphone. As you say, a very comfortable and quiet personality. I have talked to her several times since and intend a session when my favorita leaves for Columbia soon.
Went to Sunset Retreat sat at about 10pm. Coming from Phillipsburg, you see the sign on the right side of the road and park on the left side, past the sign. Then you cross the street and walk up some very badly engineered steps to the bar. There is also a pool table and a small restaurant in the back.
It seems a lot like the other places in St Maarten, but smaller. The chicas looked interesting. There was a good crowd. It was very noisy and dark, making selection of a chica more difficult. Went to the room with Judy from Santo Domingo - thin, pretty, light skinned. Like Casa Blanca, you pay first to the bar, $42. A bad sign. The service was perfunctory. No kisses. Short covered BJ. Disappointing.
This doesn't mean that all the girls are like that, but how do you select the sympatica chica when you can't hear to talk and can't even see her all that well?
I am about to leave SXM and would like to add few comments on practicalities :
1) Accomodation
Colombus is less girl friendly than Captain Oliver's. Since I paid the tarif for one person, I prefer to leave with Lucia discretely, but there is a side entrance. If you buy your own food, you can cook your breakfast in the kitchen, so no need to go to the restaurant with the chica, although yours is included in the price.
Another alternative I would like to consider next time, in order to spare a little bit more money, is to go to a guest house in Walter Nisbeth Road #29. Is is called Soualiga guest house (Tel : +599-542-0077 - Fax : +599-542-0077). I have not been to the rooms and is is certainly more basic than any hotel, but there is air conditionning, cable TV, Microwave, Fridge, Shower. It may be worth to pay for a double occupancy (65USD is high season) because you could avoid to rent a car. In fact, this guesthouse is about 20 minutes walk from Seeman and Carolina, which can be enough because the nicest girls are there. And of course, it is even closer to Petit Chateau, but I never found an attractive girl there. Furthermore, you'll be close to a beach and to the main shops in Philipsburg.
2) About Carolina
I finally got the answer : yes, they select the girls. Those you want to apply have to send a picture a liaison agent in Bogota, and their application is accepted or refused. This is why almost all of them are good looking. I am not sure, but I think the same apply to Seaman's.
Maybe you would like to know under which financial aspects they are working :
a) We already know what WE pay : 3 USD at the counter, 40 USD for a 20 minutes session, 45 USD to get the girl out, 300 USD for a all night. I never bargain because they are having a hard time and you never get a better service for less. Indeed they work 12 hours a day, 7 days a week. Therefore they are likely to experience some problems (see hereafter)
b) But what do THEY pay? The girls have to pay 57 USD/day for the rooms and 150 USD a week to the counter. This means that they must have at least 2 customers a day to pay their "employers" (strange working contract isn't it?). They also have to pay all sorts of fine ("multa") if they do not respect the rules, such as the medical inspection.
However the medical aspect do not provide the best results : I must say my session with Valentina has been spoiled because she had health problems. I am sure she was not faking (but she is faking orgasm very nicely!). Probably just lack of sleep. But when we came back to Carolina for medical assistance, they were not very helpful, they did not even gave us an emergency number nor the adress of the closest hospital. Is it to the customer to care about the chicas in such circumstances?
3) Tip of the day
You want to make love on the beach?
- Go either to Happy Bay near Grand Case, 10 minutes from Liar's Bay (but you should first go there during day time and bring some light during the night to walk in the path). Very small, isolated beach with nice scenery.
- Alternatively, try Guana Bay : it is closer to Carolina, easier access. But there again, you should have a look first during daytime before going with a chica. This is a much larger beach, in an open area (few private houses but no bars, restaurant, this is why it is deserted even during the day). But there was no one, and fulfilling one of my last fantasy at 36 years old was really exciting. Needless to say that I will remember this and the chica all my existence.
Jan Chris,
Where did you get the girl at that you idi it with on the beach?
Chris H
I found the girl at Carolina. I prefer not to say which one because I think she would not appreciate. But ask any of your choice about your fantasy before taking her for the night. Most will likely accept, I am quite sure.
The beach in Guana Bay. We just had sex and this was very exciting for both of us. It was the first time for her as well.
Soualiga is really basic. To give you an idea, the rooms look like the one of the brothel. Not very nice to take a girl with you during the night. Otherwise, it's cheaper and close to three brothels and there is what they say.
JC,
Which pkace did you stay at that had the kitchen to cook in? How much per night, and do you have any contact numbers for this place? Your reports are very informative, and I really can't wait to get down to the paradise island. I am surprised that it cost $300 for all night with a female. That seems alot more than they would make for the hwhole night if they stayed in the club. Does anyone know of a cheaper price for an all-nighter?
Chris H
Chris H,
I stayed in Captain Oliver's (more girlfriendly but no possiblity to cook) and Colombus (there you can cook, but if you pay the price for the single use - 92 euros, otherwise it is 143 euros - they will give you only one towel and you are not supposed to use the second bed). Both are excellent location but a car is compulsery. I am currently at Soualiga, cheap and basic, but you can't take the dirt road shortcut during the night - too dark, too isolated, so that's a 2,5km walking to Seeman's.
Yes, 300 USD for a night is a lot, and I suspect some earn less when hey stay at the brothel. I have stayed last night from 9 to 12pm and observe one of the nicest girl : she apparently got only one client. But it is possible that she got three or four after I left. Some are less nice, but they managed to get more client by exciting them. That's why some clients bargain and get it down to 200 USD. It depends on the girl : the nicest she is, the most difficult it will be for you to get a better price. And do not forget : you do not get a better service for less. Personnaly, I do not like to bargain - for this last reason, for compassion, because it does not correspond to my cultural behaviour, and because I think it is their job and it seems ackward to deal it that way with sexual service. And then I consider that it is "take it or leave it".
However, on two or three occasions (not here) I was asked how much I was ready to pay. Difficult to answer, but the strategy is clear : if you propose more than they will expect they will accept ; otherwise, they will tell you their price.
I'll be visiting St. Maarten this month. I did not plan for this to be a mongering visit. Imagine my surprise when I discovered that this is a fairly active mongering venue. I have been doing my homework and I want to extend my special thanks to the authors of posts #50 and #75 (the annotated map). They have made me quite confident that I will be able to locate the mongering sites without difficulty.
I do have a question or two. The first is about showers. From what I have read, showers are apparently available in most of the brothels. Are there any exceptions? I am the type of guy who will want to shower before AND after. Will this tend to cut into my time or rush things or increase my cost?
I am also under the impression that the fee is around U$S 40 for a session of ~ 25 minutes. I do like to take my time and I enjoy longer (40-60 minute) sessions. Are these longer sessions easy to arrange and reasonably priced?
Thanks,
Rex
Rex-
[QUOTE=RexG] I am the type of guy who will want to shower before AND after. Will this tend to cut into my time or rush things or increase my cost?
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I have never had my shower time counted against session time or increase the cost. In fact, I get the impression that cleanliness may actually increase your session time.
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I am also under the impression that the fee is around U$S 40 for a session of ~ 25 minutes. I do like to take my time and I enjoy longer (40-60 minute) sessions. Are these longer sessions easy to arrange and reasonably priced?
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Longer sessions are easy to negotiate - "una hora?" Expect to be quoted $100 and negotiate down to $60 or $80, depending on how busy the girl is, how desireable you are as a client, etc. I have payed as little as $40 and as much as $100 for 80 minutes with super service.
UPDATE (one more thought): When Seamans and Carolina are very busy and the girls are sharing a room, there can be problems with staying in the room for an extended time. The other roommate will be knocking on the door after 30 minutes or less! If you negotiate an hour in advance, the girl can warn her roommate.
-zing
I must thank earlier posters who reviewed the island and each of the clubs. I've been travelling in Latin America for 20+ years but this was my first trip to St. Martin, and first to a club like this since right after my divorce a few years ago (I spent time in similar establishments in Guatemala and Costa Rica back then, but wasn't aware of this forum at the time.) I was on St. Martin with friends/extended-family and only had time for a couple of trips to the Seaman's Club, but I found everything exactly as described.
I'm posting to add my take to earlier comments on Seaman's club. Both times I went in it was around midnight, and there seemed to be about equal number of girls and "potential" customers. However, some of these guys were being completely ignored by the girls, while others were getting a lot of attention.
After I came back from my first session I sat back down at a table for a smoke and another drink and got into a conversation with a group of the guys who were being ignored. They were workers from the DR, unable to afford any time with the girls, but enjoying having a drink and ogling them nonetheless. I think they're allowed to hang out in there as long as they keep buying drinks, but I didn't really question them about that. The girls seemed to tolerate them with humor, generally ignoring them, but occasionally flashing some T or A as they walked by, always to appreciative whoops.
By contrast, the tourist types there seemed subdued and quiet, and appeared to need a lot of coaxing and persuasion in many cases. For the normal tourist I would guess that's a natural reaction, few men are accustomed to having hot, scantily clad women put their arms around them and try to talk them into having sex before they can even make the few steps between the door and the bar. But the aggressive ones are usually not the hottest, and I wonder if later at night the girls who haven't been that busy during the day get more aggressive to make up for it, especially if the other girls have been doing well.
The price I was given was $40 for 20 minutes, $50 for half an hour. I paid $40 each time but didn't see any clock-watching. The first night I was with a Colombian girl (I'm horrible with names, sorry!) who claimed to be from Cali. She'd been on the job for less than two weeks and appeared to want to just get things over with. So before we started I asked if I could relax on her bed for a minute. We ended up talking for 10 or 15 minutes, and I did the same kind of stuff I used to put my girlfriend in the mood (footrub, joking with her, talking slowly in an easy voice) until she was relaxed and smiling and it ended up being a great session. I must mention a "YMMV" tip - at one point as we changed positions, she thought I was going for a DATY and panicked - no no! That's not my thing anyway, but for those who like it, make sure you let the girl know specifically what you want to do before you hire them for a session! If that was what I'd come for I'd have been pretty annoyed.
The second visit was with an enthusiastic Dominican who joined me afterwards at the table, snuggled into my lap, and hung out with me until I left. Very, very nice, both trips. The girls I was with were meticulously clean about everything. I did not ask for uncovered-anything (there are others in my life that I need to protect), so again if that's your thing, make sure you ask. This trip was a couple of weeks ago and I think many of the girls are new, so I'm not sure what is available in the bareback area.
I must add that none of this would have been the same experience without speaking Spanish. With girls in this business its important to distinguish between what she does and who she is. Getting to 'who she is' is crucial for me to really enjoy the experience. To reliably experience Latinas at their best, I highly, highly recommend Spanish classes or conversational language CDs (here I would say that my favorite is the Pimsleur series, which I used to get Portuguese down before a trip to Brazil last year. Pricey but worth it.)
Anyway, thanks again all for the great tips on this forum, excellent stuff here and I wish I'd found it years ago!
KD
[QUOTE=Kendan]
before we started I asked if I could relax on her bed for a minute. We ended up talking for 10 or 15 minutes, and I did the same kind of stuff I used to put my girlfriend in the mood (footrub, joking with her, talking slowly in an easy voice) until she was relaxed and smiling and it ended up being a great session. KD[/QUOTE]
I have had sessions in St Maarten where the bar was too noisy for a conversation before hand and the girl had programmed herself for a quick, miminal session. I love your idea of asking if you can relax on the her bed for a minute before starting, then use that time to change her mood.
I sometimes ask if they would like a massage, which can help somewhat, But that is much more rushed than your idea!
-zing
I just arrived in St Maarten and am about to head out for my first round of fun.
Any other mongers on island this weekend? Zing? Routard?
I'll report in if I survive!
pogo
I asked a girl at Club Defiance how I could see her at 11am, since the bar doors don't open until 1230 or 1pm. She said no problem, the gate (porto)
on the side of their building is open. Just come in and knock on her door (alexandra, rm 213).
As you face the entrance to the bar, there is a pay phone to the left of
the bar building.
Behind that is an open area before the wing with the bedrooms.
on the left side of that building is an iron gate, which you should be able to open.
the girls are on two floors - each has her own room!
-zing
[QUOTE=Zing23]I asked a girl at Club Defiance how I could see her at 11am, since the bar doors don't open until 1230 or 1pm. She said no problem, the gate (porto)
on the side of their building is open. Just come in and knock on her door (alexandra, rm 213).[/QUOTE]
I was told the same thing yesterday when making plans to take a girl to the beach on Sunday.
Her name is Andrea from Bogota (room 206). 25, no kids (nice and tight) white skin, blonde hair and a very nice set of enhanced mamas. Only been there a few days. She spoke no english and I speak muy pocito espanol. It was mid afternoon. Daytime is the best time for Deiance. They are essentially on thier own time with no key charge or clock watching.
She was one of the better GFEs I have had. Really into DFK and cuddling. I gave her a massage then got a BBBJ and covered to completion. Then we cuddled and made out for a while until the little stick was ready to bounce again. Then some really nice covered FS. After more cuddling she wants to go for a third. I didn't take any vitamins so I figured that would be pretty unlikely. So I said..Esta Muerto!
She took that as a challange! She spent quite a while trying to raise the dead...BBBJ, tea bag...you name it. Finally she hops out of bed, stands there with her hands on her hips and just glared at me. Then she grabs a bottle of baby oil and goes back at it with hands and tits. Soon she starts chanting Viene! Viene! (it comes) and sure enough the dead lives again. I busted a good nut all over her. Then she gave me a very proud look, kissed the bottle of baby oil and threw herself on top of me for a big deep kiss. Awesome!
We are going to Orient Beach on Sunday. She said to come around the side and knock on her door. She said she sleeps until 1 or 2, but I can come anytime earlier and sleep a bit with her before we go out.
[QUOTE=Zing23] the girls are on two floors - each has her own room!
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That's correct. They do share a bathroom. The conditions there are somewhat nice...yet...somewhat primative. The rooms are not bad and they do have some storage for their personal stuff. There is no airconditioning and there were quite a few mosquitos. The shower is cold water only and no showerhead...just cold water out of a pipe. I almost broke the sink off the wall by just barely touching it.
I can see why a day out of there is always welcomed by the girls. A day trip is no problem and no bar fine, but they have to be back by 4. This can be a true GFE as they will only go out if they like you. A good meal and a hot shower are appreciated and the sex will be for real and not mechanical. If she really like you, she won't ask for or expect money, but I will still give them a few bucks, which are welcomed of course, but think of it more as a date.
Orient Beach is good because you can go nude. Otherwise you might end up buying her a bathing suit. Besides...it's always nice to be at a nude beach with a very hot young girl! Sex is NOT allowed there, but can be done discretly in the water. There are plenty of good bars and restaurants to take her to while there. Papagayos and the Perch are good because they are also clothing optional.
This is why St Maarten is in my opinion one of the best mongering spots on earth. There may be places that have more girls that charge less, with cheaper hotels and stuff. But St Maarten has it all....good brothels, beautiful nude beaches, modern facilities, good eats and some nice casinos. Who could ask for more?
pogo
[QUOTE=Pogostick]
Her name is Andrea from Bogota (room 206). 25, no kids (nice and tight) white skin, blonde hair and a very nice set of enhanced mamas. Only been there a few days. She spoke no english and I speak muy pocito espanol. It was mid afternoon. Daytime is the best time for Deiance. They are essentially on thier own time with no key charge or clock watching.
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pogo[/QUOTE]
I went by Defiance with the idea of looking up Andrea (or one of the other Columbianas that I like Sara, Alexandra and Patricia). While I was drinking a cold water (the weather in St Maarten has just switched from comfortable warm winter to hot summer over night), a very cute and fit black girl with large natural breasts came over and said hello. She is 25 and has no children.
Sharon is from Tulua in Columbia, which is the same town as Cynthia, a black chica at Defiance in the fall. She claimed to know Cynthia, and it may be true, since she mentioned the name of another friend that I remembered from Defiance.
After some nice talk and touching, we headed off to Sharon's room, which is 205 - right next to Andrea in 206 (who I never did see).
This girl has a perfect body and really aims to please. Lots of kisses, carresses, BBBJ, DATY, CFS in lots of positions, including some that were completely new to me. After about an hour of fun, I climaxed satisfactorily (it was the second girl of the day for me).
Afterwards, she asked if I wanted more (mas?). My answer was si y no (yes and no). Yes I wanted more, but was I up to it? After 20 minutes of talking (in Spanish) and snuggling, we had to dig up another condom. We tried 4 more positions for about 30 minutes, but another come was not possible for me in that short of time.
After 2 hours, I left her $40, plus a small regalo (gift), and a copy of the day's news from Columbia (from the El Tiempo web site).
Sharon has only been in St Maarten for a week, but she already has a large number of guys calling on her cellphone and sending her messages. I can understand why - she was really good!
-zing
[url]http://news.caribseek.com/Sint_Maarten/The_Daily_Herald/article_30262.shtml[/url]
or
[url]http://www.thedailyherald.com/news/daily/i267/petty267.html[/url]
Friends, this is such a tragic blow. Routard how shall we survive?
Alan
Don't worry Alan, all chica's are safely relocated in Defiance. The show must go on!
Sorry, I've no time to write more, I need to comfort those poor chicas.
Routard
Saw the report of the fire at Petit Chateua in the paper, so I drove by yesterday. The front portion of the building shows no signs of fire at all and the doors were open for business as usual. I was at Defiance later in the afternoon and did not see any of the girls from Petit Chateau working there, so they must be busing to work at Petit Chateau!
[Update, Sat Apr 1: I went in Petit Chateau today and it is open. the back section of chica rooms is boarded off, but the section around the courtyard and the bar are ok. At Defiance, a chica told me that 3 girls from Petit Chateau were now working at Defiance, including one with a giant rearend!]
There was also excitement last week when a fight that started at Carolina ended up with a stabbing nearby. Here is the report from the Daily Herald:
"Man rushed to operating room with 6 stab wounds"
A man identified as J.R.D. (44) of the Dominican Republic underwent an emergency operation to save his life after he was stabbed at least six times abot his body by an attacker who police say is known by the vicitm, outside New Arch Supermarked on Arch Road in Sucker Garden on Wednesday [Mar 22] around 2:30am.
Police spokesman Inspector Johan "Janchi" Leonard said the suspect was believed to be one W. and had been on the run ever since the near fata stabbing incident. According to the report, the stabbing came at the end of a long chain of bickering between the two for reasons not yet made known to detectives [note: a girl at Carolina told me they thought it was about business, perhaps drug business].
It appears that J.R.D was at Carolina Bar on Arch Road having a late night drink when the suspect spotted him and immediately threw a beer bottle at him, hitting him. After receiving the blow, J.R.D. reportedly fought back and the two rolled around on the ground outside the restaurant until the suspect pulled a knife and cut J.R.D. near his throat.
Realizing that he was being overpowered, J.R.D. started running away from his attacker, who followed him and managed to stab him at least twice while they were both running along Arch Road.
Tired and wounded, J.R.D. fell to the ground outside New Era Chineses Supermarket [note: this is right next to Carolina] at which point the suspect reportedly sat on him and stabbed him a few more times. When the ambulance crew arrived at the scene, J.R.D. was covered with blood and had to be rushed to the emergency room to be operated on. He is now in stable condition....
The girls at Carolina told me that none of the girls were involved in the fight, nor in danger. One of the girls at Seamans told me that one of her clients had seen the fight at Carolina and said there was so much blood (sangrie) that he was shocked. He lost his interest in Carolina and decided to walk down the road to Seamans instead!
-zing
i started my mongering career 6 months ago with a very short columbiana named laura with very enhanced breasts. she was the first chica to approach me at seamans club. i have been visiting the brothels of st maarten about once or twice a week since then, mostly in the day time.
i guess i was naive, but here are ten things that took me by surprise:
1. some chicas lie. not just about their age and how good looking you are and how they love you, but also about seemingly wierd things like where they come from. isobel told me she was from mexico, but i found out later she was a columbiana. did she just mean that she had most recently worked in mexico, or was she trying to make herself stand out among the 25 columbianas at seamans? it wasn't a language problem, because she spoke reasonable english. maybe they just get bored and like to play games with the clients.
2. the better the chica's knowledge of english, the more likely they are to have a lot of rules (no kissing, no bbbj, etc.). i think it comes from more contact with north america.
3. a little bit of spanish is not enough to understand everything. i have gotten girl's names wrong and misunderstood numerous other things as well (these became obvious in retrospect). the results have sometimes been humorous - nothing serious so far.
4. the chicas know everything that goes on in the club - who you go with, how you liked it, etc. perhaps they sit around and gossip when it is quiet. sometimes they even know things that happen in other clubs. but all of the chicas have been very discreet - none has tried to call me at home or done more than text message me on a cellphone that i first text messaged them from. even though a chica may remember you the next time, don't expect her to remember all the details of your sexual preferences - if she has had many clients since you, it may be necessary to remind her that you like bbbj.
5. chicas like to capture you as a regular client and make themselves your "amiga". and they can be very intense about this. if you repeat even once with the same girl, she will try to make you her private client, and make it uncomfortable for you to do a session with anyone else in the club. of course, all you have to do is say "no", but for some guys like me that can be tough. i suspect that this is a real issue of chica pride: if you are her amiga and bring her nice gifts, then she can brag about you and feel less bad about her work. if you then go with another girl from the same place, it makes her feel disrespected and look foolish in front of her peers. i was suprised that the other chicas generally cooperate in this effort (they will go tell your regular that you have arrived, instead of trying to steal you away). of course if you are only in st maarten for the weekend, this is not an issue. but i am seeing these girls at least once a week, sometimes more!
6. surprising things can happen with a regular amiga. two out of 4 offered me uncovered sex at no extra charge, which makes no sense from an economic/risk point of view. one chica ran away from the brothel and moved in with a man on the french side - then begged to see me on the side. although she professed to want/need/love me, she still thought i should provide money gifts for her! another cried briefly during our last time together at seamans, after 3 months of light-hearted paid sex and joking (i was very nice to her that last time, but i am just a customer, and she was happy to stop having sex for money). the third amiga threatened to cut off my cock if i went with another girl at the same club. probably she was just being dramatic, but she did know some columbian guys that live in st maarten! once when i ignored her possessiveness and went with another girl, the second girl told me it could cause her big problems.
7. some chicas fake an orgasm amazingly well. when one girl revealed this to me after a particularly impressive performance, i mentally reviewed some of my previous encounters and re-evaluated them. their job is to make you feel like a million dollar lover, even though you pay only $40, so it makes sense. i now assume an orgasm is faked, unless i have my finger inside her at the time and feel the rhythmic contractions (and i am not 100% sure that those couldn't be faked also).
8. the best looking and the most aggressive chicas do not always give the best service. on the other hand, sometimes a real beauty is also great in the room, and i have had an amazing time with one super-aggressive girl who was also a hardened pro! generally, the better and more varied the communication, the better the session, regardless of the beauty and aggressiveness. recently, two chicas that i selected myself, but not the most beautiful, were dissappointing (no dfk, no gfe). so i am still confused.
9. some chicas make no money at all -- after you subtract the fees they pay to the house, their food and other expenses, and divide the cost of travel/visa/etc over their 3 month visit. others make money, but spend it right away. and some make lots of money, save it all, and plan to open their own businesses when they return to columbia!
10. the chicas do profiling of their potential clients: cruise crew, cruise passengers, other tourists, local blacks, local french, local dutch, misc local caucasians like myself, and local east indians (according to one girl they negotiate the hardest, wanting fs for $20!). the chicas have opinions and preferences for each group. they may even vary the services that they provide and the prices they charge. think of it as market segmentation, like having 5 different kinds of coca cola.
overall, it has been an enlightening and pleasurable 6 month introduction for me.
-zing
Very well put amigo ... you can apply this synopsis all over the world.
Could someone give me driving directions to the places in Phillipsburg and the places outside of Phillipsburg.
Seamans, Carolines?
Thanks
Please explain the abbreviations.
Thanks,
Sailormon
Thanks a lot Zing23 for your excellent reportings during those first 6 months.
We all can't wait reading your future reports about the next steps in mongering life. And remember, I made you an offer to make some of those steps together...
[QUOTE=Sailormon]Please explain the abbreviations.
Thanks,
Sailormon[/QUOTE]
Click the link at the top of the page that says Abbreviations
(bbbJ = bare back blow job, FS = full service)
[QUOTE=Sailormon]Could someone give me driving directions to the places in Phillipsburg and the places outside of Phillipsburg.
Seamans, Carolines?
Thanks[/QUOTE]
Go back to Lesser Antilles section and click on Reports of Distinction.
Directions, maps, pictures, everything you need is there. nothing has
changed since then. zing
[QUOTE=Routard]Thanks a lot Zing23 for your excellent reportings during those first 6 months.
We all can't wait reading your future reports about the next steps in mongering life. [/QUOTE]
On my last time at Defiance, I entered to see 3 chicas talking to a very old man, perhaps 84 years old.
Then the man walks across the bar toward the rooms, a beautiful, young Columbian chica steadying his arm so he won't fall down.
Now that is an old age worth looking forward to (and that girl had a perfect body, a beautiful face, and is a very nice person as well).
-zing
Just had a quick trip to St Maarten, and as I was staying just down the street from Platinum, had to go check it out. As reported, girls are all beautiful. 20-30 a night, almost all from Ukraine, Romania or Czech Rep. Found one from Venezuela (Barbara) with huge inflato-titties..:-)
Anyway, they are friendly, but fairly aggressive in trying to get you to buy them a drink. Beers are $6 for you, $8 for them - (they get $2), and heavily selling a private dance in the back - Nude for (only) one song for $30. There are always two dancing on stage, but they only get topless. I opted to just be friendly and watch, but my buddy finally caved in and took a dance, but he was disappointed, as it was so short.
They are all on a 90-day Visa deal, and have to go back after that. Several had done stints in either Canada or Japan doing similar work, sending the money home. SOme also spent it, as one girl had a car, and another bragged of several high-end watches ( which may have been gifts)...Anyway, interesting and fun to talk to - they all knew pretty good english, and were almost without exception 7-10's.
I asked one girl if she would like to go out on her off time and she readily agreed to dinner my next visit, but didn't get so far as to ask about sex - I'm so shy.
Will let you know.
Need a little help guys. I am trying to book a room at the Soualiga Guestroom, but I have had no luck trying to contact them. E-mail address does not work, and can't call international. I really don't have to stay here, but I would like to stay close to the action. If anyone could help me, it would be very much appreciated. I a, looking to be on the island this coming weekend, April 15-16th. Thanks in advnce for the help.
Chris H
I stayed there.
Why is it that you can't call international? You must be able to do it from your mobile or any booth where you are located. Their number is : +599 542 0077. Sorry that I can't help you as I am leaving myself on vaccation tommorrow.
But here is what I think : if you are looking for a cheap solution which will allow you not to pay an expensive hotel and rent a car, Soualiga is the best oneI know. But there are two drawbacks : A) it is not VERY close to Carolina/Seaman's, and during the night you should take the main street (not the dirt road leading to Petit Chateau) which means a 25 minutes walk. During day time, the dirt road seems reasonably safe, and you'll need only 15 minutes. B) the rooms are VERY basic, just like the ones of the girls although you would have a private bathroom. There is a Subway salad bar nearby and internet cafes on the street. I will not do it again, it is too basic for me.
I have been told that the hotel near Carolina can rent some rooms. It is called Blue Star Hotel but I have no number (the card I was given is in my office). The entrance is just in the Carolina bar (the left door) while the chicas have their rooms on the right. Isolated, but a good solution if you plan a "fuck/sleep/fuck/sleep" sort of thing. I'd like to try this one at least once.
Anyway, we are now in the low season. I am quite sure that Soualiga will have some rooms available. Keep in mind that you have to pay them in cash.
Once again will be on the island this weekend, April 15th, and leaving on Sunday the 16th. My flight will get there around 12 non, and I will have 24 hours for some pure pleasure. If any fellow mongers will be around this weekend, PM and maybe we can find a place to meet so we can drink and fund some lovely ladies.
Still searching for a room near the action, if anyone can help.
Chris H
Chris H,
My previous post refers.Blue Sky hotel contact number are : Tel : +690-580-4000 / Fax : +690-542-0292 / E-mail : [blue][Email Address deleted by Admin][/blue]
I have not seen the rooms, but I would expect them to be basic. Nor do I know their tarifs. I presume that it should be quite noisy, so you'd better have the same sort of schedule as the chicas. This would leave you the day to go to the beach in Philipsburg taking the shortcut where there are some activities.
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I would like to "publicly" congratulate Routard and Zing23 for their excellent reports in this forum. Routard has been very helpful for me to find the places and the nearby accomodations. Zing23 last remarks are very interesting and I agree with most of them.
If I may add my own thoughts :
1. All the chicas I have met are financially VERY interested. Whatever they may feel/say they feel for you, their priority is to finish their contract. Even if you are a rich and handsome man, they are here because they want to be independent financially when returning to Colombia. One of them was very honest with me and told she was not starving, she had enough money to have her implants, etc. She just wanted to have MORE money. There are two consequences :
2. Most of them will try to have you as a "regular" customer. They know you can't have sex more than X times a day, so it is their interest that you become "faithful" to them. One of the advantage, though, is that she will get more comfortable with you and likely to give a better service (see point 5 hereafter). Most of them will expect you to see a different girl each time. A soon as you get acquainted with one of them more than one time, she gets the impression that you are a different guy and she will double her efforts for you to visit her exclusively, and develop every possible strategy evoked by Zing, like jalousy, fake orgasm (refer to point 6) or love.
3. If you fall in love with one of them, you are a fool (and I am a Fool ...) : basically, you will have very little chance to build a serious relationship. At least because both of you will have a distorted image of the other (you as a sexual obssesive client, her as a "puta"). Usually, a love relation will start by discussing, knowing each other, then kissing and making love. It is a big challenge to do it the other way round.
4. I have never seen a chica speaking really good english, most of them are quite uneducated by western standards, which does not mean that they are unintelligent. I have come to the conclusion that the Colombian education system must be really bad... If you speak good spanish, it mkes her more comfortable and you can be very precise with your requests, including particular service like the following.
5. I have rarely seen a chica kissing with tongue the first time. But it happens. I have also few experiences with some of them doing it after you see them few times. Some will definitely never do it.
6. Fake orgasm? Maybe I am presumptous. But I had an experience with one of them I invited for the night who had a small orgasm although she was telling me she did not like it because she was getting exhausted and could not afford it with all her clients. Another one which had an orgasm and could hardly support me continuing to move in order to have mine afterwards, because she had become very sensitive. Otherwise, I will assume all others are fake. But that does not necessarily means she does not feel anything or do not like it.
Try these :
- ask them : "Do you fake with me?" and see how she replies and use you
intuition to see if she lies.
- fake youself and see what happens : tell her it was a fake and see her
Reaction.
- hide your orgasm, she'll be surprised.
To make it short : play the same sex-game using her own rules and let her know afterwards. It should add spices and create some complicity and a more rewarding and frank relation if you want to see her regularly. I have also found out that, like in every relationship, if you express how much you are happy with her and/or look constantly in her eyes, she will like it because she will feel that she is not only a sex object but a little bit more than that.
Just some toughts of a not very experienced nor good lover.
JC,
Thanks for the info. I will try to stay at Blue Star hotel, since it is right next to the action. I am trying to stay cheap since I will only be there for 24 hours. Thanks again for the info!!
Chris H
Chris H,
I think that will be interested to share your experience in this forum when you come back since you'll be the first one to try this "hotel". I'd be curious to know their tarifs and the state of the rooms.
Sorry I didn't follow up on my last post (1/13/06) but life has been crazy. I have been able to read every post since then, so that helps. JC, excellent post on 4/11. I'm right there with you brother. Anyways, I leave a week from today, and I'll be there for 10 (hopefully) action-packed days and nights. I was wondering what the status of Le Petit is at this point. Are they back to their normal place, or is the rumor true that they are all trying to fit into Defiance? Any other brothel tips/updates? In case I don't get a chance to write before leaving, I just wanna say that Zing and Routard are the shit!! Because of your wisdom, I almost feel ready for this trip :o) I'll keep watching the posts on here. Take care gentlemen.
[QUOTE=Bachlur]Sorry I didn't follow up on my last post (1/13/06) but life has been crazy. I have been able to read every post since then, so that helps. JC, excellent post on 4/11. I'm right there with you brother. Anyways, I leave a week from today, and I'll be there for 10 (hopefully) action-packed days and nights. I was wondering what the status of Le Petit is at this point. Are they back to their normal place, or is the rumor true that they are all trying to fit into Defiance? Any other brothel tips/updates? In case I don't get a chance to write before leaving, I just wanna say that Zing and Routard are the shit!! Because of your wisdom, I almost feel ready for this trip :o) I'll keep watching the posts on here. Take care gentlemen.[/QUOTE]
the day after the fire le petit was open with the burnt out rooms closed off and a crew rebuilding them. 3 girls were working at defiance, the rest still wrking at le petit. so basically, no real change in operations.
good luck
-zing
I went to Carolinas club last week with the map provided by Zing23 posted 11-9-05. Thanks, great map. I walked there from the cruise ship I was on. It is straight through the island in the middle of the great salt pond. I walked past the La Petite Chateau on the way but it did not look like much. Not many girls or anyone else for that matter. It was about 11:00 in the morning. It was OK during the day but I would not want to do it after dark. You walk past the local garbage dump and it is not in a very good part of town. I walked all the way down to the cross street at the top of the pond and did not see it. I have enclosed a picture as it does not quite look the part of a bordello and there were no signs on the place. The entrance is on the left side.
Once inside there were many girls. mostly in their early twenties. Mostly blond young and from Columbia. A dark young thing came up to me and asked if I wanted some company and I sent her away I had just got there and wanted to peruse the situation. There had to be at least twenty girls and thirty guys. Most of the girls were still available and I was eying a couple of the blonds standing in the middle of the bar area. I put my priorities in order and went to the end of the bar and ordered a beer. As I was standing there I was noticing that the one that first approached me had a short skirt on and had an exquisite ass and was wearing just a g-string. She wandered past me again and I couldn't resist fondling that exquisite thing. She obliged and backed up into my hand. After a few minutes she took my other hand and put it up under her top. She started lightly kissing and biting me and at that point I was hooked. Her name was Karen I think she was 22Yo. and from Columbia. She said she had been their only two weeks. This is from memory as my PDA lost it's memory and all my notes. At least I did not lose the pictures in my camera. I asked her if she wanted to go back to her room and she said I had to pay the guy at the bar $3. and with the beer I bought her it came to about $7.
Her English was relatively good. But we spoke mostly in Spanish. I spoke to most of the girls in Spanish I think they enjoyed this. I found that most of the girls spoke fairly good English and I found some at Defiance that liked to Salsa Dance and they were very surprised that I could dance better then they could. I was very popular there.
The rooms seem to be assigned to the girls as she had personal things in it and it had a connected bathroom. Before our session we cleaned up in the bathroom and then we laid down on the bed naked as we got started. I was a little confused and I stopped and asked her if she wanted any money. She said $40. I got up and gave her the money. I am not sure if she forgot or it is customary to ask at the end. (I had a session at Seamans Club later that night and the girl asked for the money and set a timer up front a very different experience). After our session she asked if I wanted a back rub and I kept telling her that all I wanted to do was lie around and caress that wonderful body of hers. After lying around for about an hour I asked if I could get a picture of her and she obliged and then I asked if I could get one of her with her clothes on and we got dressed. Afterwards I gave her a $10. tip and as we were heading for the door she turned around and started kissing me again an then knelt down and undid my pants and started blowing me again. I got very week in the knees and had to sit back down on the bed and the next thing I knew we were going for it again. It took me a little longer the second time as I hadn't completely recharged my batteries. Afterwards I gave her another $40. for the second session. She had not asked for anything and I not sure she would have but I enjoyed my afternoon so much. It would have felt very bad later if I had not. It was not that hot in her room there was sort of a cooler in it. We did not head out of the room until almost 3:00. It was such a great feeling to just lie around all afternoon with this young thing in my arms and screwing all afternoon. When we finally did leave I was somewhat dizzy.
Out front I bought her another beer and she asked if I could give the bartender another $3. as we had gone over our hour an if I didn't pay she would have to. I graciously paid.
When we went back out to the bar the place was empty. She told me that the place ebbs and flows with the arrival and departures of the cruise ships. One of the ships must have been leaving..
As my ship wasn't going to leave until midnight I had more exploring to do. So I wandered over to Seamens a very short distance away but did not stay as I saw some tourists on motor scooters and grabbed a taxi that he took me back to the marina and I rented a scooter. Turned out to be a great way to visit the clubs.
More later,
Gntlman Mongr
I'm on my way here and some other Carib spots. From what I know of real estate, St. Maarten is major bucks. Can some of you describe costs of beer, restaurants, etc. It just is striking me as a very expensive island. I'd love to hear opinions.
I will be in sxm April 28 -April 30 and can not find a room for those nights -seems to be a holiday-carnivale. Any ideas? I tried holland house but they are booked.
Thanks
Sailormon
[QUOTE=Jim Steele]I'm on my way here and some other Carib spots. From what I know of real estate, St. Maarten is major bucks. Can some of you describe costs of beer, restaurants, etc. It just is striking me as a very expensive island. I'd love to hear opinions.[/QUOTE]
st maarten is not terribly expensive. rooms range from 35 Euros a night in a simple french hotel in concordia neighborhood of marigot to $450 a night at La Samanna (one of the most prestigous hotels). Mid-price tourist hotels range from $100 to $200 a night. Compared to nearby Anguilla and St Barts, this is a bargain. Compared to Domincan Republic, it may seem expensive. One night I was unexpectedly stuck in St maarten and found a room at the Great Bay Casino and Hotel in Phillipsburg (big tourist hotel on the beach) for $83/nt.
Restaurant prices on the french side are very reasonable - Tropicana in Marina Royale of Marigot is one of the best - lunch special is around 12 euros. Lots of good mid-priced restaurants such as Saint-Severin in Bellevue, where local french people eat (even french truck drivers demand good food). I have not found any restaurants on the dutch side that I can really recommend for good food (although there must be some!) - think us-style vacation food.
People in the neighboring islands all come to st maarten to shop - prices are lower than in anguilla, st barts, saba or statia, due to larger businesses with bigger volumes.
Beers at the brothels are only $2, versus $1.50 at other local places and up to $4 at tourist places.
-zing
I had spent several weeks alone in several « sex prisons » (just check one of my reports in the Saint Vincent thread). When I arrived in Saint Maarten, I haven’t had sex for nearly…, I’m too ashamed to say this on a sex forum! Needless to say, this was an emergency situation. Each woman in the street was for me a walking pussy. I arrived in Carolinas before opening time. There was only one chica at the bar, Valentina, room 3. She seemed to have a very nice personality, but I simply couldn’t see the person in her. We went straight to the room to release the pressure. I’m ashamed, I hardly remember anything of her, even her face. I left Carolina, had a few things to do in Pillipsburg and made a general survey of the brothels in the early afternoon. Hereafter a quick Sint Maarten update.
LE PETIT CHATEAU : About 10 Colombianas and Dominicanas in the 4-6 range. Action is always slow during daytime.
DEFIANCE: Similar to le Petit Chateau as they are sister clubs. Both sell Viagra at the bar, but pills are not sealed, so I will not recommend it.
SUNSET RETREAT: Action only during the evening, so I didn’t checked it. Usually selection is poor.
CRISTAL: Even if it is at 10m opposite Carolina, I don’t bother anymore to have a look inside, as there are usually just a few uninteresting girls.
CASABLANCA: I don’t bother anymore to drive till Casablanca, I have never liked that Club, even if it is the biggest with over 30 Dominicanas in the evening. Atmosphere is much more aggressive, and I don’t like the attitude of the girls.
SEAMENS CLUB: about 25 Colombianas in the 5-7 range. Atmosphere is always excellent as usual. Nice music, a lot of interaction with the chicas, and friendly customers from mixed origin. I discussed with a few seamen to compare our info about action in the Caribbean.
CAROLINA: About 25 girls all in the 8-7 range with even a few 8+. They select definitely only the better looking girls. Girls have all excellent attitude, as their working conditions are the best of all brothels. Facilities are the best by far, nice clean rooms with AC and private bathroom. The bar, restaurant and hotel lobby have TV available with South American channels. There is even a beauty parlor. Girls are allowed to exit the Club in the morning till 11am as well as between 4pm and 6pm without exit fee. The brothel has even hotel rooms for the customers at 50$/night. One year ago, this Club was hardly known and there were few customers. It is now by far the best Club of Sint Maarten. The positive reviews on ISG since one year have probably something to do with it. Anyway, Carolina deserves it.
Needless to say, I decided to stay in Carolina. As soon as I was at the bar, a chica came to me, Alejandra room 13. She smiled and had a very nice face. Usually I get rid of the girls coming to me as they are mostly the ugly barracudas that need to be active to get a chance to catch a customer. But I have also a few positive experiences of nice girls coming to me just because they are selective and prefer to choose a customer they fancy. I offered her a drink, and there seemed to be a good chemistry, so I guessed that she could be from the second category. Sometimes I even felt I impressed her, she was maybe a bit shy. Anyway, I decided to give her a try. The session turned out to be very physical. I was still very horny, the sexual pressure was still not released, and this time it lasted much more longer. I knew I was asking a lot of energy from her, but she could deal with it. Boy, what a fuck! It was so good to find back the feelings of a woman’s body. When I finally came, I nearly cried. I thanked her for what she gave to me. She smiled and was proud of her performance.
Back to the bar, she didn’t want to leave me and stayed with me. I usually want to try different girls, but I was so grateful to her for making me again a human being. I offered her a drink and discussed together. The sexual pressure was released, I was again a perfect gentleman. She was from Bogota. I told her I was planning a trip to Colombia, and asked her about the nightlife in Bogota. She gave me the names of a few famous nightclubs, but then I asked what was her favorite places. She said that she preferred different places, as she liked salsa music. I said that it was exactly what I was looking for, as I was a true salsa aficionado. We had a nice discussion about salsa, she told me that she won a salsa dancing contest. We looked together on the PC jukebox of the club and programmed a few songs. We started to dance. I had to adapt my academic Cuban style on her more natural Colombian style. I then showed her a few Cuban figures, and gave the names of the figures. She was impressed, and asked me to learn her those figures. Yes, I was giving salsa dancing lessons to a Latina chica! After a while it went quiet smoothly, but she asked for mercy. She was exhausted and we took a drink together. Things were not the same anymore. Her eyes were glued to me, and she definitely didn’t want to leave me. She gave me her personal phone number in Sint Maarten and in Colombia, explained me that she had no boyfriend there also and that I could call anytime. She offered me to go back to her room listening music, as it would be more convenient and intimate than in the bar. She said that we could even dance naked! It sounded OK to me, a kind of private FKK.
Once in the room, she put some music and started a private lap dance. She undressed me also, and we went together in the shower and washed each other. She offered me a nice massage followed by a body body massage. We played together for an hour naked in bed without condom. She was completely relaxed and secured. I could do anything, DFK, DATY, fingering, rubbing my dick to her butt and even to her pussy…she just didn’t come up with a condom, I’m pretty sure she was expecting bare back sex. But I finally asked for a condom. The previous session was not that long ago, so I just didn’t want to come. We had sex in every imaginable position. What a stamina! She had an orgasm, but I can’t tell for sure if it was faked or not. All in all, we had spent four hours together including three showers, massage, two pops, and total damage…100$.
I'm nearly ready to stop having sex for a while again, just to revive those magical moments.
If anyone could post (as complete as possible) a list of all brothels on the Dutch-side of the island it would certainly assist in streamlining my efforts as I and 4 other Latin men prepare for a 4-day Bachelor Party Extravaganza weekend in St. Maarten. We told the wives we're going Bone Fishing, which isn't a "complete" lie. I've already scoured the forums and have a map with 7 spots on it, and 5 images of some of the clubs. In return for the info, (when I get back) I will post an updated map of every location we hit and pictures of each establishment. Thanks in advance.
I'll also post ratings, now (mind you) I live in a city where 10's fall off of trees - literally, and on South Beach there are more models per square inch than anywhere else on the planet, but I'll try to remain realistic.
Rack Addikt
Miami
[QUOTE=Rack Addikt]If anyone could post (as complete as possible) a list of all brothels on the Dutch-side of the island it would certainly assist in streamlining my efforts as I and 4 other Latin men prepare for a 4-day Bachelor Party Extravaganza weekend in St. Maarten. [/QUOTE]
See the [url=http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=426807&postcount=3]reports of Distinction[/url]
- what you are missing is mainly [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=399340&postcount=50]Routard's excellent summary of st maarten.[/url]
-zing
[QUOTE=Gntlman Mongr] She started lightly kissing and biting me and at that point I was hooked. Her name was Karen I think she was 22Yo. and from Columbia.
Gntlman Mongr[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the report. I thought that your picture of Karen looked a bit familiar, so I went into Carolina yesterday to find her (after a 3 week trip away from the St Maarten area).
Surprise, my regular favorite Viviana (see long ago post by Pogostick about black-haired beauty) was still there! I have said goodbye to this chica twice already - once in January when her 3-month stay was up (but she stayed another 3 months!) and once again in early April. Turns out there was some problem with her ticket on Aeropostal and now she was trying to get home on Avianca. The SPanish was too fast for me, but I also got the idea that her baggage was too big because she had collected so many gifts from admirers in St Maarten! She might leave for Columbia next week...
Later, I did see Karen sitting with some hombres and received a wave - I remember her from an earlier conversation in March. Has a good twinkle in her eye.
When I walked into Seamans, 3 girls called out my name, so I had to go sit with them.
I am in the midst of an interesting long-term experiment at Seamans: when my 3-month favorite Alexandra left, she set me up with Juliana, who she said was "muy simpatico" (very friendly). I wondered how one chica would know which other chica I would like (did she interview her about various services?). I also wondered if she had auctioned me off to the highest bidder. Juliana was a completely different physical type from Alexandra.
But I decided to trust Alexandra's judgement and went wholeheartedly with Juliana - with excellent results. What Alexandra had done was sift through
the sharks ("tiburon" in spanish) and find me a chica with a good attitude.
After 6 enjoyable weeks, Juliana returned to Columbia. Before she left and I left for vacation, she introduced me to Louisa - who she recommended to take over! Louisa was again completely different physically with large natural breasts, but Juliana assured me that she was muy simpatico.
Since Juliana and I left St Maarten about the same time, I never got to visit Louisa. But she was in the group of 3 chicas that called my name. She reminded me of Juliana's recommentation, but I remembered her also. She had been disappointed that I never came to see her after Juliana left. After 30 minutes sitting on my lap, chatting, getting to know each other, and fending off other chicas, I invited her to go to the room (#19).
Again - excellent results! Lush body, but very fit. As I gave her a back massage, she rested her head on my thigh and started playing with me. After a short lecture about how BBBJ was mal for her, but bueno for me, she proceeded to a really good BBBJ. Then lots of kisses and enthusiastic DFK and DATY (I think she enjoyed it and she did ask for more and I liked that she didn't pretend to climax). CFS in lots of positions, some of which appeared to be for her pleasure. I left her with a small gift (cute stuffed animal) and $40 and she walked me to the car.
So far, the experiment of following chica recommendations is working well.
-zing
Map Updated (05/02/06) - Thanks, Zing23!
I'll update this map based on personal eyewitness accounts of my upcoming visit. Thought others might find this handy.
Rack Addikt
[QUOTE=Rack Addikt]I'll update this map based on personal eyewitness accounts of my upcoming visit. Thought others might find this handy. If someone could plot where "Cats" is located, I'd appreciate it.
Rack Addikt[/QUOTE]
Cats is located on Arch Road, which is the road that runs from Seamans to
Carolina and around the salt pond. on your map, Cats is about where the little black symbol that looks like an "S" is located.
Also for your map, Golden Eyes strip club is located on the road to the airport, at the point where the land between the lagoon and the sea is the narrowest on your map. For findng Golden Eyes, it is on the right side of the road, just past the drawbridge that lets boats into the lagoon.
-zing
This is carnival week. Yesterday, girls at Carolina and Seamans told me that business has been very slow (since many potential customers are partying at carnival events). Viviana did get taken out of Carolina to the Latin music and dance show of Carnival last weekend (yes, she is still at Carolina rm 1, negotiating with Avianca to fly her home to Columbia). She showed me videos of the show and her client on her cellphone.
Patricia at Defiance proudly showed me her photos of several outings to the beach (Orient Bay and Great Bay) and a boating trip from Marigot. These were made with two amgos, an Italian and a Dutchman. They looked like typical ISG guys: mid-thirties to mid-forties, ok looking. Obviously fun-loving!
Lesson: I suppose the risk is low, but don't assume that any photos taken by a chica are private. Given that there are Internet cafes about every 100 yards in South America, it shouldn't be long until there is an ISCG web site "International Sex Client Guide" where chicas post reports on good and bad clients, with their pictures!
-zing
P.S. Then Patricia pulled out her new digital camera and snapped a shot of me and had me take numerous pictures of her cute bush (I guess she likes seeing herself from a new angle).
P.P.S. Louisa from Periera (Seamans rm 19) didn't show me any photos, but she gave me one of the best BBBJ ever. After about an hour in her room, another guy knocked on the door for a visit just as we finished dressing and were preparing to leave - good timing guy. (You can go back to the girl's room early in the day at Seamans, but remember that she might be busy - if so, she will yell out "Occupado".)
P.P.P.S. I ran into Sharon from Tullua Columbia (Defiance rm 205) at the Phillispburg Pharmacy. She was filling a prescription, escorted by a client whose grasp of Spanish was obviously minimal, but who no doubt had a car. This is the frist time I have ever seen a chica by acident outside of the brothel. But she did not make eye contact or let anyone guess she knew me (of course she noticed me, didn't she? we had a life changing encounter last month).
[QUOTE=Zing23]This is the frist time I have ever seen a chica by acident outside of the brothel. [/QUOTE]
It happened to me several times, especially in Pillipsburg before 11am, when the chicas are allowed to exit the club without fee. In fact, each time I see a pretty young unknown latina walking along the road in the morning, I stop to offer her a ride. Outside the brothels the girls don't have the same attitude. They keep a low profile, are very polite, sometimes even shy, as I act also different outside the brothels. It makes me quiete horny picking up a girl as I'm not sure whether she's a working girl or not and whether I will be able or not to fuck her later. And It's very funny when later she meets me again in the brothel, discovering that I'm also not that serious guy she believed I was!
Routard
I just got back, unfortunately a "Homeland Security" scanner wiped out all of my photos, but after I collect my thoughts, I'll post an updated map, reviews for each club, and also report an "attempted mugging" on my group at Sunset Retreat. I also talk about the amazing "Todo La Noches".
(Update)
OK, Where do I strart? Well let's start with the 3 Strip Clubs (and nothing more than stripping)
The Platinum Room - Elite touristy club near the Maho Bay Beach Resort, 8s, 9s and 10s, but "untouchable".
Golden Eyes - touristy club above Rick's Restaurant on the strip near the airport, much like a cheesy U.S. Strip Club.
Player's Club - touristy club and last buiding on the strip leading away from the airport, another Cheese Factory.
Since we weren't here very long we chose not to waste time at these clubs.
*** Brothels good for nooners (10AM until 12PM) but not recommended for evening visits due to heavy local population and wannabe hoodlums.
Le Petite Chateau - dark dive, few girls, the locals threw rocks at my rental car as I was driving by at night. Located on a very rocky salt flat in the middle of Great Bay Salt Pond, north of Philipsburg and the University of St. Martin.
Crystal Club - absolute waste of time (across the street from Carolina's)
Carolina's - Good selection for a nooner, at night there is heavy local traffic, 8-10 hispanic girls, 5s, 6s, and a couple of 7s.
*** Elite Clubs good for nooners, evenings and TLNs (todo la noches - all nighters)
The Seaman's Club - 10 to 15 girls, 7s, 8s and a couple of 9s. The only airconditioned club we found. $50, rooms in a separate, but very close building just behind the club. TLN was $260 at 8:30PM, but we came back just before closing (2:00AM) and talked 4 girls down to $200 each.
Defiance Hotel - 10 to 15+ girls, 6s, 7s, and a couple of 8s. No A/C, you will sweat heavily dispite the fans. $45, rooms located behind the stage area. TLNs were $300 and non-negotiable; they must've thought we were loaded.
*** Decent Clubs good for nooners, evening and TLNs.
Casa Blanca - 20 to 30 Dominican girls, 5s, 6s, and a few 7s. No A/C, $45 for 25 minutes, $90 for 50 minutes, rooms are downstairs, in a prison-like area, you slip the money to a cashier through a small hole in a flexglass booth and the cashier hands the chica a key to open the steel-gated door - creepy.
***BEWARE***BEWARE***BEWARE***
Sunset Retreat - the first night we saw heavy local traffic, people hanging out in the parking lot and we just drove by. The second night we thought "Screw it, we're going anyway." Being a former Marine, I immediately went into recon mode and here were my observations.
Upon arrival, 4 locals that were getting into a car to leave, saw us and hesitated. The reverse lights went on to back up, then imediately off, and they just sat there. We exited our rental, and all four of us walked up the stone steps to the club. The club was actually quite decent, a group of girls quickly huddled together and paired up with all four of us. I managed to attract an 8. Moments later, the four locals from the parking lot entered the club again and each sat in a chair directly (10-15 feet) behind each one of us. For a second, I thought it was a coincidence, but then I saw two of them using hand signals to point out which one they were going to take out.
I immediately (and quietly) informed my friends, but one was already on the way to a room with a gorgeous 8 of his own. So the 3 of us stayed at the bar and waited for him to finish. I non-chalantly watched the door to the rooms to ensure no unaccompanied men went in, and the other two kept watch for a any unexpected movements and/or reaching in pockets from the 4 idiots behind us. We were ready, but not overly obvious. My chica noticed that I was not happy. She asked what was wrong. I told her (en Espanol) that I felt uneasy about others here, and asked if this place was "peligroso" dangerous. She said not in the club, but outside the club things happen. My friend finished, we grouped up and departed together without incident. In all likelihood, since we made it perfectly clear we knew what they were up to, we may have turned a "gimme" into a confrontation they didn't particularly want to engage in.
Just today I found out that recently, in St. Maarten, a gay tourist was bludgened with a tire iron to within an inch of his life and has permanent brain damage. Of course that doesn't particularly have anything to do with our situation, but the point is... violence exists.
Guys, be aware, don't get too drunk that you can't pay attention and don't look like you have much money. Flashing a wad of hundreds to pay for a $2 Presidente is asking for it.
Tomorrow I will report on our 4 on 4, interchangeable Todo la Noche.
Note: TLNs are not good for closely supervised hotels, hotels with 24-hour lobbies, or accomodations that charge extra for additional guests.
Thanks a lot Rack Addict for your report, can't wait for your TLN report too. Sorry to hear you also you had some bad experience. However I think it was most unlikely that those guys were planning to attack a group of four men, epecially if you tell me that you were a former marine. And at least not inside the brothel. There are easier targets. The guys could have been pickpockets however.
Security issues in brothels and in Sint Maarten have allready been discussed before. Security feeling are very personal feeling, so everybody will experience it in a different way, as everybody will compare it to his own situation at home.
However the chica gave the exact answer. Inside the brothels it's 100% safe day and night. I know more or less some of the owners of these brothels, and believe me, they will let nobody from Sint Maarten mess up their business.
The parking lots of Seamens and Defiance are secluded and safe day and night. Carolina is a very discrete brothel as well as the parking lot, day and night. The parking lots from Petit Chateau and especially Sunset Retreat on the other side of the road are not secured, no problem by day, but things may happen by night (like the chica said). I have mixed feelings about the Casa Blanca parking lot by night, but no problem by day of course.
For the rest of Sint Maarten, I will put apart the internal crime and especially the one involving drugdealing. Sint Maarten is safe for tourists. I stick to my opinion. Crime against tourism is seldom, and the few times it happen, you will hear from it in the local news. It's nothing compared to the hundreds of thousands of tourists that visit each year Sint Maarten without any problem.
I have always lived everywhere around the world and being part of a white minority. But I can understand that some people coming from the US feel unconfortable when they are in a black neighbourhood. I realized this when somebody mentioned about bad guys haging around the parking lot in Seamen's. In fact those guys are there every night. They indeed have a "Bronx" look, but they are just the taxi drivers waiting for customers. Also inside the brothels there are lots of locals, especially by night. But believe me, they are more interested in the chicas then about you. I have never experienced any agressive attitude from a local in a brothel. Have a relaxed attitude, say hello when entering, make a small joke with one of them, and he will most probably offer you a beer. Relax, you are in the Caribbean!
Of course like everywhere in the world, usual precautions need to be taken. I have never had any problem even in some of the most dangerous countries in the world. I have been robbed only once, it was in one of the safest coutry in the world, simply because I forgot my usual precautions.
And if security is a major concern, try all the brothels by day. By night, stick to the safest only, Seamens and Carolina.
[QUOTE=Rack Addikt]I just got back,... I also talk about the amazing "Todo La Noches".
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Thanks for the report - of course we still await the TLN report.
I noticed yesterday that there were no cruise ships in the Phillipsburg harbor,
and only one cruise ship on several recent days. In April there were many days with 3 or 4 cruise ships and the brothels were packed during the day time.
I think that it is now the end of the busy tourist season (Nov-Apr). Few cruise ships and fewer visitors at the hotels and resorts.
Most of the girls that arrived from Columbia in Feb are now gone (they are on 3 month visas) and I wonder about their replacement. I would expect the brothels to cut back on the number of girls they import during the off season, as they won't have as many tourist and cruise ship crew as customers. But when I started visiting the brothels last september (the most dead month for visitors, due to it being the peak of hurricane season) there seemed like a lot of girls at the clubs, most not very busy.
I will keep an eye on the quantity and quality of summer chicas and report here what I discover.
-zing
Before embarking on a TLN the 5 W's must first be addressed.
Who? What? When? Where? Why?
Step 1:"Who?"
It would be a good idea (although a little time consuming) to tour each club individually to draft the right girl(s). Doing this between 10A-12P is safe, but may not guarantee that she's working that evening. We started at 8:00PM.
Select a 1st, 2nd and 3rd round draft pick. Getting all 4 girls from the same club simplified the process, but we could have likely done 2 and 2.
Step 2: "What?"
Make your intentions perfectly clear. A TLN for one guy is self-explanatory. TLNs for multiple girls would lead to the assumption that each guy has a different room. TLNs for multiple girls in a 2/3/4 bedroom suite is still a safe assumption. But TLNs that swap rooms every 1 1/2 hours in 2 adjoining 2-bedroom suites is tricky. We made our intentions relatively clear at the club, and they likely thought we were kidding. We grabbed a bottle of KettleOne and some Cranberry Juice on the way to the Suite, and had at least 2 drinks in each of them before we got to the (secluded, quiet) suite. We listened to some Reggaeton, talked, laughed and got drinks #3, 4 in them and jokingly offered a $30 propina (tip) for each additional room visited. When I pulled out the wallet, and dropped 3 bills on each of them, they pretty much figured out that we were NOT kidding. For those keeping track: $200 each + 3 swaps at $30 each = $290 each. (plus a $10 bonus)
Step 3: "When?"
A nooner until 9:00AM the next day will cost alot, and may be ideally suited for lonely, lonely single guys who have never spent a day lugging a girl around. Add Lunch, Dinner and gifts to the tab my friends $$$.
Early evening 8:00PM until 9:00AM the next day would run from the $250s up.
This option might be good for Day 1 of a multiple day visit to knock the rust off.
Late Evening 2:00AM until 9:00AM did the trick for us. We drank like fish and went on a recruiting spree all night long.
This option is good to negotiate the lowest possible cost. They pretty much already made their money for the night, this is a BONUS.
Step 4: "Where?"
Most hotels frown on bringing "new friends" into the hotel. 4 and 5 star hotels do not want other guests seeing a bunch a guys lugging in their newly acquired acquaintanaces into the facility. Some prohibit it completely, some make you pay more for the new guests, and others don't care. I did the research and chose 2 adjoining 2 bedroom suites at MBBPH. I used the acronym on purpose, but most of you will figure it out quick. Do the research.
Step 5: "Why?"
Do I really need to explain why?
All in all we dropped $1200 ($200 TLN, $90 for 3 swaps, $10 bonus) x 4
We dropped them off at around 9:30AM, went straight back to the suite and crashed until almost 6PM, we only hit the Casinos that night. I'm still a little dehydrated and my back hurts alot, I honestly think I have a herneated disk. Tylenol helps, but alcohol works better.
[b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread.[/blue]
Just wondering - I have heard at the Platinum that the girls ar looky looky only and do not oblige when asked -I will be Visiting soon and have Heard reports from friends who have visited recently (feb 06) that this is not so as most of the girls (if not all are from eastern europe) have worked in Europe/South Africa etc - I Know the cost is Hight 300 -500 USD - But this is my one time visit - August 06 - Any information would be kindly appreciated. Dubdub32
Hi,
You guys have done an excellent job of providing info, maps , etc in this section. I have been to Campo Alegre(excellent) in Curacao and now I will be giving St. Maarten a try. I will definitely give a report or two while I am there.
Hey dub, I will make a play for some of these Platinum girls and see what happens. I'll be sure to let you know how it turns out.
DrFunk, Dubdub.
I laid the Latin charm on extra heavy, and repeatedly flashed a wallet ripping at the seams with Hundreds and it was still a NO GO. The bouncer is a hawk, and my feeling is: The #1 stipulation for employment there is NOT to put out, ever! I'll go as far as saying, "Putting out may indeed by "health threatening" for the girls working there." I wouldn't try to put them in a situation that might get them in trouble.
Rack Addikt
so would you say it is safer for a black tourist to get around without having problems. I am black, and I did not feel in danger at all when I was on the island. i have also traveled many places, and never had a problem anywhere. But you do have to be cautious everywhere that you go.
Chris H
You are are the fu**in man. Isn't this kind of craziness what it is about?
[QUOTE=Rack Addikt]Before embarking on a TLN the 5 W's must first be addressed.
Who? What? When? Where? Why?
Step 1:"Who?"
It would be a good idea (although a little time consuming) to tour each club individually to draft the right girl(s). Doing this between 10A-12P is safe, but may not guarantee that she's working that evening. We started at 8:00PM.
Select a 1st, 2nd and 3rd round draft pick. Getting all 4 girls from the same club simplified the process, but we could have likely done 2 and 2.
Step 2: "What?"
Make your intentions perfectly clear. A TLN for one guy is self-explanatory. TLNs for multiple girls would lead to the assumption that each guy has a different room. TLNs for multiple girls in a 2/3/4 bedroom suite is still a safe assumption. But TLNs that swap rooms every 1 1/2 hours in 2 adjoining 2-bedroom suites is tricky. We made our intentions relatively clear at the club, and they likely thought we were kidding. We grabbed a bottle of KettleOne and some Cranberry Juice on the way to the Suite, and had at least 2 drinks in each of them before we got to the (secluded, quiet) suite. We listened to some Reggaeton, talked, laughed and got drinks #3, 4 in them and jokingly offered a $30 propina (tip) for each additional room visited. When I pulled out the wallet, and dropped 3 bills on each of them, they pretty much figured out that we were NOT kidding. For those keeping track: $200 each + 3 swaps at $30 each = $290 each. (plus a $10 bonus)
Step 3: "When?"
A nooner until 9:00AM the next day will cost alot, and may be ideally suited for lonely, lonely single guys who have never spent a day lugging a girl around. Add Lunch, Dinner and gifts to the tab my friends $$$.
Early evening 8:00PM until 9:00AM the next day would run from the $250s up.
This option might be good for Day 1 of a multiple day visit to knock the rust off.
Late Evening 2:00AM until 9:00AM did the trick for us. We drank like fish and went on a recruiting spree all night long.
This option is good to negotiate the lowest possible cost. They pretty much already made their money for the night, this is a BONUS.
Step 4: "Where?"
Most hotels frown on bringing "new friends" into the hotel. 4 and 5 star hotels do not want other guests seeing a bunch a guys lugging in their newly acquired acquaintanaces into the facility. Some prohibit it completely, some make you pay more for the new guests, and others don't care. I did the research and chose 2 adjoining 2 bedroom suites at MBBPH. I used the acronym on purpose, but most of you will figure it out quick. Do the research.
Step 5: "Why?"
Do I really need to explain why?
All in all we dropped $1200 ($200 TLN, $90 for 3 swaps, $10 bonus) x 4
We dropped them off at around 9:30AM, went straight back to the suite and crashed until almost 6PM, we only hit the Casinos that night. I'm still a little dehydrated and my back hurts alot, I honestly think I have a herneated disk. Tylenol helps, but alcohol works better.
[b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread.[/blue][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Drfunk]Hi,
You guys have done an excellent job of providing info, maps , etc in this section. I have been to Campo Alegre(excellent) in Curacao and now I will be giving St. Maarten a try. I will definitely give a report or two while I am there.
[/QUOTE]
In the Curacao section, I have posted a "comparison chart" with St Maarteen.
[QUOTE=El Austriaco]
In other words: treat them well, yes. Just make sure you don’t treat them too well.
Let me make one thing very clear here. I see a big difference between a “girlfriend experience” and a “girlfriend” experience. For me, the first one means that during the time you pay a GDP, she treats you (i.e. pretends to act) like an actual GF (e.g. DFK, BBBJ, DATY, among other things that are normally not associated with professional girls in many places), but once time is up, she leaves (and leaves you alone). You will get a “girlfriend” experience, on the other hand, once you or the girl somewhat lose sight of the actual circumstances and somehow start believing that you are, indeed, GF and BF, and start acting like that. In that case, you are most likely in for a very troublesome spell, with different measures of jealousy, possessiveness, and mind games thrown in. To say nothing of vicious fights and other goodies. ...
[/QUOTE]
In this great post, [url=http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=2192&page=2&pp=15]Treating the Girls Just Right (and Not Too Well),[/url] EA is talking about the Copa girls in Brazil and how they can make your life miserable when they decide they are your real girlfriend. EA mentioned that this GDP craziness was not typical of Brazil, but limited to Copa.
The GDP desire to move from GFE to possessive GF may be world wide, but is moderated in other locations by circumstances that limit the girl's power.
In [url=http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=1844]St Maarten[/url], where I hobby, the client has all the power. The chica is far from home (Columbia or Dom Rep), the chica has to go home after 3 months work, the chica's ability to leave the club is limited, and the chica doesn't usually speak the local language (which is English). There are 7 legal brothels and the chica knows few people outside her club.
So she may throw a small fit of possessiveness in the club, but you always know it can only go so far. In the worst situation, eventually she will go back to Columbia!
-zing
(Cross-posted to Rio-2006 thread.)
[QUOTE=Routard] each time I see a pretty young unknown latina walking along the road in the morning, I stop to offer her a ride. Outside the brothels the girls don't have the same attitude. They keep a low profile, are very polite, sometimes even shy, as I act also different outside the brothels. It makes me quiete horny picking up a girl as I'm not sure whether she's a working girl or not and whether I will be able or not to fuck her later. And It's very funny when later she meets me again in the brothel, discovering that I'm also not that serious guy she believed I was!
Routard[/QUOTE]
I had another session with Sharon at Defiance yesterday (rm 205), the chica that I spotted at the pharmacy. She laughed and asked, "did you see me at the farmacia?" She noticed me, but kept her eyes cast down and ignored me on purpose. Quite demure, which is funny, because in the club and in the room she is quite outrageous.
-zing
[QUOTE=Zing23]
I think that it is now the end of the busy tourist season (Nov-Apr). Few cruise ships and fewer visitors at the hotels and resorts. Most of the girls that arrived from Columbia in Feb are now gone...I will keep an eye on the quantity and quality of summer chicas and report here what I discover.
-zing[/QUOTE]
Mid-May report, based on afternoon visits only.
Although the tourist activity in St Maarten has decreased drastically (several days during the week with no cruise ships, especially Sat and Sun), there still seem to be a lot of Columbian and Dominican chicas in St Maarten. The beauty is down a bit in my opinion. The girls at Seamans and Carolina don't start very promptly at 11am when there are no cruise ships in port.
At Carolina, Viviana and Karen and Valentina (see previous reports) are all gone. Yesterday there were only 2 girls that I remembered seeing at all in the past. All girls from Columbia. I didn't see any chicas that really turned me on, except one stunning girl in the restaurant, who immediately disappeared into the hotel and never reappeared in the bar.
Started talking to Janeth from Bogota and two other chicas from Medellin, eventually took Janeth to the room. Nice looking, redish hair, very slim, big enhanced breasts, no DFK (no FK at all), nice DATY, CBJ, CFS in several positions. $40+$3 to the bar.
At Seamans I am still visiting Louisa from Pereira Columbia, but she has moved to a new room. Very nice GFE, lots of DFK, BBBJCIM, no rush, lots of positions and variety over many visits. Large natural breasts, not skinny. $40 per visit. The other girls are mostly new, mostly Columbianas with a couple of Dominicanas thrown in for color. Looks about the same as Carolina now. Above average, some cute girls, no stunners.
Have visited Casa Blanca at about 3-4pm three times recently. All Dominicanas. Nice talks with Nancy (rm 1) and Paola and her cousin (that is prima in Spanish) and Maria (her cousin also is there!). Session with Paola from Santiago, who is slim, lighter skinned, cute, small breasts, does a strip tease, stands over you on the bed. I put on a CD of my favorite Latina music and tried to get her to relax, but there was no real caressing and kissing (like she has a std routine to get the deed done in 20 minutes), CBJ, then CFS, which was actually quite exciting. Afterwards I gave her the CD and lay with her and caressed her and she started to relax and get a bit more GFE. Might repeat after some negotiations in the bar for more! $45 to the bar before you go to the room.
Defiance has mostly new girls from Dominica Rep and Columbia. Nobody really beautiful in the afternoon. Went with Crystal (Medellin, rm 216), who gracefully disentangled herself from a local guy at the bar who was probably only window shopping, and approached me as soon as I got a drink and walked past her. Short in stature with dirty blond hair, nice figure, face pretty but looks a bit used or trashy, nice natural breasts. After exchanging names, she suggested we go to the room (no drinks, no conversation, no rubbing of my private parts). Since I was actually in a hurry and she appealed to me, I said yes.
Undressed she was in excellent shape. Gave her a Latino music CD which she put on, and gave her a massage, which may or may not have relaxed her. Some nice kissing and caressing (no DFK or FK), went for the condom quickly, CBJ (very well done), went for the lub and I suggested DATY instead (she lowered herself onto my face and gave a good simulation of enjoying it-in any case, she never used lub). CFS in three positions, ending quite happily for me. Quick shower and clothes back on and waiting for me to cleanup and leave. What is funny is that in spite of the slight rush and restraint on her part (no french kissing for example), she actually knew exactly how to push my buttons and it was very exciting. Maybe I really like trashy professional better than simulated girlfriend! $40, no bar fee in the daytime.
Haven't been into Petite Chateau recently because I didn't see anything interesting in April.
Sunset Retreat is not open in the afternoon.
Note: the weather is hotter (82 to 86 F with slightly higher humdity (60 to 70%). Only Seamans and Carolina have air conditioners in the rooms.
-zing
Do any of the girls in St Maarten do doubles or lesbian shows? Will be there soon and hope to realize this fantasy. Thanks for the great reports. Looking forward to partaking.
[QUOTE=Inglewood]Do any of the girls in St Maarten do doubles or lesbian shows? Will be there soon and hope to realize this fantasy. Thanks for the great reports. Looking forward to partaking.[/QUOTE]
Doubles - "dupla" is no problem, just ask. It isn't something you see everyday, but girls do suggest it on a regular basis. Just yesterday Louisa's roommate at Seamans mentioned a possiblel dupla customer in the bar to her while I was leaving.
See [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=434346&postcount=144] my report on my first double.[/url] Leslie the Cubana initiated some lesbian action on her own to entertain me, so I am sure if you ask first ("lesbos?") it will be part of the show (probably faked of course!)
have fun.
-zing
Did a tour of brothels so i could report to you guys. no cruise ships. not many tourists. quiet time for the girls. not making enough to even pay the house fees. i feel like the chamber commerce.
1125am. Started at Carolina Club. Only one girl in the bar. Friday night is typically a busy night at these clubs, so if there aren't any cruise ships due, the girls may sleep in a bit on Saturday. I left.
1130am. Seamans Club. About 8 girls in the bar (better supervision or work ethic ?) After an hour with Lousia, there were about 15 girls and 5 guys in the bar - lots of new girls from Colombia.
1pm. Carolina. 10 girls and 5 guys. Saw Janeth from last week and gave her a kiss on the cheek, no repeat. Struck up a conversation with Simone at the bar. Practised my Spanish. Asked her if the [url=http://www.locombianos.com/diccionario.htm]Dictionary of Colombian Spanish[/url] that I downloaded from the internet was accurate (es verdad?). She verified that it was and read the first page aloud, laughing at every other entry. Went to the room. Pretty good session, but not GFE. As we were going to the room, she asked me if I wanted 30 minutes ($3 to the bar) or an hour ($6 to the bar). This is a slightly bad sign, since I prefer to leave it vague, just pay the $3, stay as long as I/she want in the room, and pay the bar an extra $3 if it is over 45 minutes.
2pm. Petit Chateau. 15+ chicas. Mostly Dominicanas (black). A couple of new Colombianas (white). Was surprised to see my old friend Leny, as I assumed she had gone back to Medellin already. She had put on a little weight eating West Indian food for 3 months (heavy on starches), which looked good on her as she was very thin before. It was a nice reunion. I had given her a CD walkman 3 months earlier and dropped off Latino CDs whenever I was in Petit Chateau, so I think I was remembered as a friend. Rooms are not airconditioned, but the fan worked fine. Long DATY. BBBJ at my request (most girls will not go BB unless you ask). Cowgirl. Mish. She has gotten a bit more professional and active in her service. Then a lot of intense thrusting and rotating under me. And suddenly she got this very surprised look on face and quietly said, "Leny finito", which means "I came". In this case, I believed her, as she hadn't gone through the typical moaning/etc of a fake orgasm. Leaving for Colombia on Monday.
3pm. Defiance. 10 girls, 2 or 3 guys. Saw Crystal from last week. Greeting/kiss. She asked if I wanted to repeat and I said you are very beautiful and sexy, but I am looking for more kisses and not so fast (mas besos, mas despacio). She whispered no problemo in my ear, but I just answered "quizas" (perhaps). Saw a very pretty young woman with long black hair. Called her over - Samantha (?) from Cartagena. Implants. Could not get a conversation going, perhaps because I had stupidly picked the hotest spot to sit, in the sun. After I told her no to going to the room, she drifted off. I moved out of the sun and spotted Crystal with another Colombiana. Went over to get introduced to Margarethe from Bucaramanga (sp?). Talking to both of them, listening to Latin music with them on my Ipod, but during a moment when I was talking to Crystal, Margarethe slipped off to the bar to be friendly to a blond guy who had just arrived. After some nice conversation, I went with Crystal again. Much more mellow this time - some light FK, BBBJ instead of CBJ, lots of kissing and caressing. Long CFS in lots of positions as she tried to get me to finish (if it had happened I would have been a surprised and happy camper). Por que no leche para me? (why no come for me?). I mentioned the previous leche of the day and she asked if that was at places like Defiance and I said yes. I said I liked girls! She said that is very natural. You gotta love these Colombian women. I had given her a Latin CD the week before and she said it was the only gift she had received in St Maarten.
All girls $40. Gave Leny a tip to commemorate 3 months of intermittent but GFE service.
-zing
Nice report.
ColOmbia ... no "U"
[QUOTE=Ricker]Nice report.
ColOmbia ... no "U"[/QUOTE]
ColombianAs (no O)..ja ja ja..unless you have gone over to the other team. :-)
[QUOTE=Tbird]ColombianAs (no O)..ja ja ja..unless you have gone over to the other team. :-)[/QUOTE]
thanks for the corrections. sorry for the spelling errors, but i typed the report in a big hurry before rushing to catch a plane to sex prison. while in prison, i can just read the ISG forum and dream! next sunday, should be back to st maarten for another afternoon of fun ....
-zing
Zing,
I was in SXM from April 26- May 8th.
In Carolinas did you ever run into Luna a small very young long haired blond from Cali with Braces on her teeth.
About 95 Lbs nice natural c cups. I spent a number TLNS with her and had a lot of fun.
We went to the disco at maho sunset beach and danced Reggetone ( I love that music) until 4:30 am. Wow what a great dancer both vertically and horizontally. I had the dj at Carolina burn me 2 Reggetone discs for $10- each.
Talking about chica jealousy. One night she said on the phone she was sick (probably out with another TLN. So I went out TLN with Valentina
(isaria actual name) from medallin). Medium build nice boobs freckles on her face had a great night.
The following day I went to pick up Luna for the afternoon and get her E-mail-mail and phone in Columbia. She went over to the bar to write it down and another chica told her that I had taken out Valentina---wow what jealousy- she flipped out- even though I said that she was out that last night .
The place across from Carolinas seems like the dregs of the island as well as the other place down the road from Carolinas closer to town. Did I just pick a bad afternoon?
Casa Blanca seems a little too aggressive and mechanical for me , it seemed like the girl was watching me with one eye and the clock with the other.
Had a number of good sessions in seaman’s. However one night I ran into a really cute girl light skinned Columbian forgot her name.
About 5 feet tall Killer body with and incredible smile. She was my 4th that night and it was late. We were fooling around and at exactly 3am a buzzer went off in seaman’s and she said I had to leave , I offered more $$$ but no go.
Have you run into this at Seaman's?
Had 22 different chicas during that trip.
What is the selection like now that it is off season?
I was planning a trip down in the next few weeks.
How do you get to sxm so often?
Happy Mongering,
Sailormon
[QUOTE=Sailormon]
In Carolinas did you ever run into Luna a small very young long haired blond from Cali with Braces on her teeth.[/quote]
I think I have seen her, but did not ever get to meet her. My favorita got awfully jealous if i spent too much time talking to other girls.[quote]
So I went out TLN with Valentina
(isaria actual name) from medallin). Medium build nice boobs freckles on her face had a great night.[/quote]
Always meant to have a session with Valentina - friendliest girl at Carolina - but she was always busy, or I was. Perhaps she will return next year!
[quote]
The place across from Carolinas seems like the dregs of the island as well as the other place down the road from Carolinas closer to town. Did I just pick a bad afternoon?[/quote]
I cannot figure out Crystal Club across from carolina - never saw anyone that seemed at all sexy, finally gave up looking at all.
I can understand Petit Chateau - it aims to please the local market, which prizes big buns, big boobs and a strong attitude! Have only found 3 girls in there in 9 months, so for a short time visitor it is probably not worth the effort.
[quote]
We were fooling around and at exactly 3am a buzzer went off in seaman’s and she said I had to leave , I offered more $$$ but no go. Have you run into this at Seaman's?[/quote]
No, but I haven't been at any of the places at closing time. 90% of my visits are in the daytime.
[quote]
What is the selection like now that it is off season?
I was planning a trip down in the next few weeks.
How do you get to sxm so often?[/quote]
The selection of chicas is slightly smaller, but there are still about the same quality of looks and attitude as before. But since there are fewer customer, you will probably be more valued! PM me when you are coming. I live in the Caribbean and try to get to St Maarten once or twice a week, although other activities sometimes interfere.
-zing
I will pm you when I am planning on my next trip to SXM.
Sailormon
Here am I now relaxing in the crystal clear water of this tropical paradise only 48 hours after a marvellous trip in Europe were I’ve met the most beautiful women of Prague and had sex with more than 20 gorgeous girls in the greatest brothels on earth (just check my latest reports in the Prague and FKK section). Life is good to me!
It was already midnight when I decided to make a quick survey of the brothels. I was disappointed about the line-up, few girls fancied me, probably due to my previous sex adventures in Europe. I was really not in to fuck as many girls as I could. So I decided to go for an all nighter. I chosed the only girl that really fancied me. I prefer not to give her name you will understand why. We agreed on pricing and she went to change her “working” clothes for a more appropriate outdoor dress. When she came back, I knew I made the good choice. She had style and looked amazing. We exited the club and I was proud to walk around with her. She was just 23 years old, ethnically European with her blonde hairs, light eyes and thin body. She even spoke english, which is unusual with the Colombian girls from Saint Maarten. I preferred however to speak Spanish with her. We passed a mirror, and I found that we really matched together.
It was already late, so we went back to the hotel. We showered together, which made me discovered her perfect body. Once back in the room, she started to prepare already the condom, but I explained that we were not in a hurry. I wanted her to be completely relaxed with me before. She asked for a drink, and while I was getting a glass for her, she asked me if she could take cocaine. Shit, I didn’t really like it that she brought some cocaine in my hotel room, but I wanted to make her feel completely relaxed and safe. So I agreed, and I also took some with her. It was the first time that I tried cocaine, no big deal for me, again it was just to please her. We then discussed for nearly an hour, fully naked in bed. When I noticed that she was completely secured, I started to kiss her. Her lips had a strange taste. Yes, it was the sour taste of cocaine. I started even to feel the anaesthetic local action of the drug, close to what you may feel at the dentist. Another new experience. Still, we made love for nearly an hour. It was great, but I noticed that she was really tired. So I turned off light and we felt in sleep, our bodies enlaced.
When I woke up next morning, daylight showed how beautiful she really was. I took my shower and came back in bed. She was still sleeping. I caressed her body and my desire for her increased. But she didn’t wake up. I was watching that perfect body that I could not fuck. It was as if we were already married, I’m sure you all know what I mean. It was already 9am when she woke up at last. She smiled to me came in my arms and it made me feel so good!
No, she didn’t plan to leave me frustrated. We had a nice early morning sex, thought I didn’t came even if I was real horny. Was it the side effect of cocaine? It didn’t matter, I had spent a nice night with her and we went out for breakfast.
The waitress came to us to inquire for breakfast and started a nice discussion with us. She asked about us, where we came from and so on. I realized we really looked as if we were on honeymoon. Indeed, we had breakfast discussing our eyes glued to each other and smiling. Yes, breakfast is definitely the best moment of an all nighter.
It was time to bring her back. We exchanged our Email addresses and I promised to come back for another all nighter with her soon.
Yes, I believe I’m in some major step in my mongering life. I’m not interested anymore in fucking as many girls as I can. I prefer now to take some time and have a true story with a woman.
1) This is my second trip to St Maarteen, and I have looked for many times a cheap accommodation. While car rental are generally cheap (this time I chose ACE car rental, 102 USD a week), accommodation are expensive (Captain Oliver’s is good but still 100USD/day). Finally, I googled in st-maarteen-vaccation.com a guesthouse owned by Maryse. They rent three of them, I chose the “Residence blue beach”. This is small, reasonably well-maintained and discrete studio with kitchen that will cost you 50 USD/day. There are just cockroaches around this place, but I am going to fix it! Overall good value for money to my point of view. No American channels, nor swimming pool but with a/c. Very good to bring back the chica for the day or night. There is a mezzanine, so it could be occupied by 2 mongerers and 2 chicas if you are in that sort of thing.
NB : The “Blue Skye Hotel” I have evoked in one of my report does not seem to be available for us, only for the chicas.
One other thing: last time, I spent quite a lot of time and resources in internet cafes. In Walter Nisbeth street, there was one rather cheep though. But I was looking for free wireless access. Found some info in sxm-info.com: the access point in Fiesta Tropical (Front street) does not seem to work, however the one in Coconut Joe’s bar in Simpson road does! It is located at the end of the road, so quite far from the airport, on the left side if you are coming from the Juliana. In fact, I am writing this report from this place, which is, at 5pm, completely closed and deserted!
2) What about the action? Zing23 is quite right in saying that the quality and quantity is down a bit compared to the high season (which ends with the Easter weekend). In the morning, there are sometimes more hombres than chicas, especially in Carolina because they have installed a big screen for the worldcup. Having said that, I have been quite happy with the first three girls I met. More specific reports will follow upon completion of my “duty”.
ROUTARD ....
I´ve been ´mongering´for years also ... and I also have entered that ´new phase´that you described.
Much more interested in the quality of time with a chica than with the amount of them.
Suerte!
[QUOTE=Jan Chris]In the morning, there are sometimes more hombres than chicas, especially in Carolina because they have installed a big screen for the worldcup.[/QUOTE] Jan Chris is absolutely right. I was in Carolina yesterday at about 300pm and a large crowd was watching the world cup match on the big screen and ignoring the few girls that were present. I took a look in the "hotel" lobby to see if the chicas were all in there on the sofas - no luck, only 1.
Then I noticed a busty cute blond with pink eyeshadow that I have seen before. She took one look at the rapt sports fans and went out the door into the entry hallway where she could catch a man before he was entrapped by the big screen. I decided to leave and say hola to her on the way out. As I stepped out the door, she immediately struck up a conversation with me. Her name is Diana, from Bogota. Quite cute up close and in the light. She spoke some English, but we mostly talked in Spanish. Soon we retired to her room, #11. Undressed she was even better. Her breasts must be enhanced, but didn't feel like it. I am much taller than her and she started things off my massaging junior zing with her breasts while I was standing in front of her. Eager to please, accepted kisses on the lips, but no DFK. Declined DATY (said she didn't like it, in English). She sucked on my nipples as I came - nice touch! $3 to the bar plus $40 for Diana.
I was also at Seamans at 2pm, where the small screens were showing regular TV and porn videos - no world cup. The place was packed with guys (over 20) and girls (at least 15). The selection available was way better than at Carolina (at night it could be different- I don't know).
However, my regular at Seamans, Luisa, told me that the customers were not going to the rooms with the girls much. We are getting into the part of the off season where because there are few tourists, there are fewer dollars flowing through the economy.
-zing
Zing23 is right about Diana. She will be included in my report at the end of my trip. Carolina still has a better selection to my point of view, if you are able to see all of them.
For that purpose, here is a tip: Do not got between 4 and 6pm, they are all resting or out for their private stuff (like sending some money to Colombia). ut if you go at 8pm, there will be absolutely no clients, but... you will see all of them coming to sign the register, the same applies at 11am. On the morning, you may not be able to have a session straight away as they are not all ready (but maybe you can date at 11.30), but it will be more easy at 8pm. Good time becase they are not too tired, and not in a hurry neither.
I just wanted to say "Hi" and let everybody know what a standup guy you are.
If I ever make it up that way "You are definetily the Man to know"! how's the golf game coming along?
Bueno Suerte!
LB
[QUOTE=Lima Busy]You are definetily the Man to know[/QUOTE]
I agree with it too as I had also the privilege to meet Zing23, but most important, this is what the chicas say too. ;)
Yes, Saint Maarten is now on high resolution on Google Earth!
I stayed 10 days in St Maarteen, and following will be the list of chicas I met: there were none of the ones I saw during my last trip. I decided to have two sessions a day until Wednesday to choose my “all night long” (TLN) chicas for the end of the week. In Casa Blanca and Sunset Retreat, there are only Dominicans, which means black skinned and mostly flat chested, as they rarely have implants. So I did not pick anyone there. I came to the conclusion that 7-10 days in SXM are enough to have sex with the most attractive girls, unless you are : A) not very picky, and/or B) have a lot of money and/or C) you find the perfect woman and want to settle there!
But before I come to the specific reports, I’d like to say that I was extremely surprised to be known in Carolina by everybody, because I had a sort of aborted “love affair” with one girl three months ago. She must have spoken to everyone, even those who came after my departure. You can’t imagine how much they speak to each other: therefore do not say to all of them that they are the most beautiful of the place or that you are in love with them: you will loose your credibility in less than a couple of minutes.
Important notice: During weekdays, Seamans’s, Carolina and Defiance close at 2am, 4am on Fridays and Saturdays. Casa Blanca and Sunset Retreat remain open later. Before 12.30 there is little activity. Do not go neither between 4 and 8pm. Since there is no “fine” (multa) to pay between 4 and 8, most of the girls are outside for their private stuff (sending money to their family, going to the beach, shopping, etc.)
WIFI-Hotspots: In my previous report, I said the Hotspot from Fiesta Tropical Café 14 Font street does not work. In fact, it does, but you have to know the security code of “home Fridays local” which is I believe 5995428030, otherwise ask the bartender. On the other hand Coconut Joe’s one did not work the last couple of days.
Dancing: the girls will not necessarily like to come out dancing because they hear music all the time. They may prefer to go and see a movies (there is a complex in Simpson road). But if you go out dancing with her, my advice is to go to “La Chapelle” in Orient Bay (French side) on Thursdays from 11pm. They are very good salsero there and a nice restaurant.
Sex on the beach: go to Guana Bay 10’ from Carolina, take Guana Bay Road on the left if you go to Philipsburg’s direction. It is isolated in the night. Both romantic and exiting.
a) Seaman’s
In fact, I found the quality was down in this mythic place.
- Catalina (room 1): a small cute face 26 year’s old brunette. Average body, but nice smile. Has arrived on 9 June. She was sweet and I liked her childish attitude, but she is already the mother of two girls! So not so childish! Nice personality, but maybe lack of experience to know how to satisfy a man. Not on the top of my list.
- Anita: The best sessions I had, but since she leaves on Monday, it does not really make sense that I go into much details. PM me if necessary.
- Eliena (room 14): pretty girl, she has natural C-cup breast, the session was OK but too quick.
b) Carolina
The quality and quantity remains reasonably high here compared to my last trip:
- Lina (room 5): a slim lady (although she is the mother of one child), 26 but looks older, blond hair, with implants. My first session was great! She talked a lot, but was eager to please me. Lots of kisses, even French, which is exceptional. I thought it would be hard to choose someone else after her, but I still had 6 more days to come!
Needless to say that I chose her as my first TLN… and I was disappointed. She was but the shadow of herself, she told me she was exhausted. Whatever her reasons were, it was rather frustrating for me. She had the courtesy to apologize. Overall, it was a waste of time and money.
- Diana (room 11) is a genuine Playboy type of woman: rather tall, blond hair, small nose, and a C/D cup breast that looks natural. Zing23 report is accurate. Sex was nothing exceptional, and I finally realize she could be a better friend than a sex partner. We exchange ideas about our feelings (we both fell in love in a brothel). We finally became so confident, that I can say I met a true friend, therefore we both decided not have any session together. From this moment my desire for her transformed into a sort of admiration for this attractive body. Do not expect to have GFE with her, she has someone in her mind. Please treat her well.
- Jane (room 12): she is a 26 years old girl, very slim, blond hair, very pleasant and quite personality. At first, I thought her breasts were natural, and it was only when I saw the small scar under the nipples that I knew they weren’t. But her surgeon (an Argentinean practicing in Colombia, Mr. Hans Harry Bonnet) has made a fantastic job! The session was pleasant but it did not change my priority list.
- Jacqueline (room 2 or 3): strange voice, very slim, rounded shaped breast. We did not have sex, cos I was not in the mood, but she gave me a nice massage. Good character.
- Mariana (room 14) has arrived two weeks ago and must be the younger of the group. Furthermore, she is just starting in the circuit. She was not on the top of my list, but I discovered a nice body, and her breast, tough not very large are very soft and completely natural. I had a TLN session with her. Due to her lack of experience, do not expect to have a GFE.
- Nathalie (room 13): our session has been marred by unexpected events, therefore I will do a specific report on her.
c) Defiance
I was quite surprised to see some pretty girls there but with more African descent ladies than in the other brothels.
- Juliana is a 24 years old, rather tall, white-skinned girl, with long black hair. Was very soft, but no GFE. Her breasts are really nice to touch, but they have a big scar I would have preferred to do without. No regret as my thoughts were already towards a real cutie I had spotted before, but who was busy with another guy.
- Her name is Samantha. God, she has a body to die for! She has a long black hair and although being the mother of one child, she is very slim. Her face is cute, looks a little bit sad. To my point of view, the best looking girl of Defiance. She has arrived two weeks ago. Her service was quite mechanical (no French kisses) but somehow exciting. During the night session I had with her, there was not very much enthusiasm from her side. However, as I dropped her in Defiance, I was still hypnotized by her body.
My TLN sessions were disappointing except with Anita. I was happier on different occasions here and in other places. I still have enough consideration to understand that these girls are exhausted but I decided to forget about these long sessions and come back to these 20 minutes ones for my last days. I only made an exception with Anita.
My advice: always have an “emergency plan” if you hope to date with one chica. Do not entirely pay them in advance if you can. Take them out at 8pm, not 2am.
Following my previous report, I think you’d be interested to know about this unfortunate event that happened to me.
I had remarked Nathalie, because she is small (which I like) and has a blond long hair, is only 22 but looks older, implants. She has an angel face and a fantastic smile. I was very eager to have sex with this little horny girl.
a) First session: We had a date at 11 am, but when I arrived, she was still asleep with her partner. I said I was sorry and I could come later, but she insisted I should stay. So, we made it silently while her friend was half-asleep, but none of us did mind! She was very comfortable with sex and had a strong GFE potential, therefore I was considering to have a TLN. She asked for USD 300 + 45 “multa” (i.e. fine to pay to the management) for the night.
b) Second session: My night with her ended up in a nightmare. We came out dancing, and when returning, she said she had forgotten condoms therefore we needed to come back to Carolina. While I was waiting in the car, they closed the bar at 2.30am but Nathalie came from the back and told me this story: there was a big fight between some other girls and her roommate, so she needed to stay with her to ensure her security. She was very nervous and her mobile was keeping on ringing all the time, therefore I accepted to let her go provided we would resume the session another day. I even agreed to pay another fine because I knew they would charge her again. We agreed to meet at 1am the following day, I had prepared a nice and romantic date, but guess what? She had gone with another client before I arrived! The following morning, I left a written note under her door asking for explanation, but on the evening, she said she did not see it. I asked again for explanations, she replied that I had my session and she had to continue to work and that was all!
I thought it was really unfair, that she had not completed her part of the contract, and I was so frustrated that I decided to complain to the management. Before, I asked advice to a couple of chicas, who strongly encouraged me to do so. They told me there was no fight on this Thursday that no one was hurt, and that other customers had previously had some problems with Nathalie. They directed me to the “dueno”, called Jaime (not sure about spelling). He is a strong black French guy, speaks very good Spanish and English. He asked me very precise questions (such as whether she sucked me in the car…), then he requested her presence. She gave contradictory explanations and was “fined” to refund me 150 USD. He did not accused her of lying, but justified his decision on the ground of professional misbehavior (a chica always need to have condoms, no one would agree to pay 300 USD for not for having sex). The manager has a lot of authority and neither Nathalie nor I could really challenge his decision, and as far as I was concerned I felt I had won a battle on the principle. There were a lot of customers around watching this Salomon judgment. Nathalie was in a furry against Jaime, she neither looked at me once, nor apologized. Needless to say that her story of the fighting with the girls was pure invention.
I thanked my two guardian angels for their good advice by giving them a nice tip. The important number of witnesses and the gossips between the girls will probably arm more Nathalie’s reputation than this report, I guess.
Conclusions:
a) Be careful of this girl. She is extremely cute and I would have sold my soul for her, but she is the devil incarnated
b) Trust more you intelligence than your feelings: in this story, there were some strange elements that should have alerted me.
c) If you have a problem, speak with some girls first, ask for their advice, then make up your mind and eventually speak to the manager or his wife (Isabel). They are not necessarily on the side on the chicas, because they want the club to run smoothly and customers to know that they are safe. On the other hand, I think they will not hesitate to back the girls with the same determination if a customer behaves inadequately. Carolina seems to be very business oriented, the Dutch way as I like…
Excellent reports Jan Chris, it gives a good idea about the atmosphere of the Saint Maarten scene. Sorry to read your experience with Nathalie. I seldom had to experience any problem myself in Saint Maarten, but it may happen of course, each chica is different. More interesting is to see how the management deals with such issue. The boss is the kind of guy you 'd better not want to fool, I would have spelled his name Jimmy. But I know he is extremely business oriented and I'm not surprised to hear he took a fair decision. He is not only customer oriented, the chicas also have at Carolina the best working conditions. He genuinely tries to bring his business to the best level, that's why Carolina became in a short period of time the best brothel of Saint Maarten.
[QUOTE=Jan Chris]Dancing: the girls will not necessarily like to come out dancing because they hear music all the time. They may prefer to go and see a movies (there is a complex in Simpson road). But if you go out dancing with her, my advice is to go to “La Chapelle” in Orient Bay (French side) on Thursdays from 11pm. They are very good salsero there and a nice restaurant.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the great reports and the tips. I like your advice about the dancing, because it is an example of a new theory that I have been working on: ask the girls what they like!
Seems simple, but it is so easy to just assume what they will like. And the downside of that approach is that is causes you to do things that they have probably seen/heard/done a hundred times before with a hundred other hombres. It takes something that shows personal knowledge/concern for them to shake them out of their professonal persona (of course you don't want to do something so overwhelmingly thoughtful that they start to think of you as their boyfriend).
I have an example from yesterday. I had been visiting Luisa at Seamans for about 6 weeks and the sessions were getting better and better (she leaves for Colombia on Thursday, so don't bother to look in rm 9 after that). After the 2nd week, I asked her what musician was her favorite. And without hesitation she said "Joan Sebastian". I had her write in down and looked it up [url=http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000001YDJ/qid=1151196010/sr=1-5/ref=sr_1_5/102-2649826-9472954?s=music&v=glance&n=5174]on Amazon[/url] and ordered some CDs.
Turns out the Joan Sebastian is a man, an old time singer in Colombia. He sings ballades and old fashioned dance tunes - very Colombian, not like the Latina music I had been listening to, or that they play in the brothels (reggaeton, hip hop, etc.). Luisa told me that all women in Colombia love him.
Yesterday I was sitting at the bar at Defiance with three Colombianas and let them look through my music CDs. Isobela from Cali completely perked up when she saw Joan Sebastian. She could not believe that I had it. She asked the bartender to put it on the sound system - and all of a sudden the 3 chicas were dancing and singing along to "25 Rosas", his most famous hit. As the familiar songs rolled on, Colombianas around the room started dancing, and singing and clapping along. They knew all the words of every song. It was as if I had turned a switch and changed their personalities.
If I hadn't listened to Luisa, I would never have seen this. An obvious CD of Shakira, the most internationally famous singer from Colombia, does not have this impact on the girls from Colombia.
-zing
I have a question - and this is a serious question, not an invitation to a flame war:
[QUOTE=Jan Chris]She was very comfortable with sex and had a strong GFE potential, therefore I was considering to have a TLN. She asked for USD 300 + 45 “multa” (i.e. fine to pay to the management) for the night. [/QUOTE]Why would you travel to St Maartin (I assume you are traveling there, not a resident) and pay $345 USD for a chica for TLN? I realize she was probably really hot. They make them that way in Colombia. And I am sure the sexo was just as hot. But I can get TLN here at home from some pretty damned hot Brazillian strippers working on the side for less than that. I can get TLN in Costa Rica from some mighty fine Colombianas, or just as fine Ticas, for $100 - $150 USD. I can go to Aruba and get just as fine a Colombiana for $40 in house. I've never tried for TLN in Aruba, so don't know the going rate, but I doubt if it would come to $345. Again, I am not looking for a flame war here. I would appreciate a serious reply.
[QUOTE=Delaware Guy]I have a question - and this is a serious question, not an invitation to a flame war:
Why would you travel to St Maartin (I assume you are traveling there, not a resident) and pay $345 USD for a chica for TLN? I realize she was probably really hot. They make them that way in Colombia. And I am sure the sexo was just as hot. But I can get TLN here at home from some pretty damned hot Brazillian strippers working on the side for less than that. I can get TLN in Costa Rica from some mighty fine Colombianas, or just as fine Ticas, for $100 - $150 USD. I can go to Aruba and get just as fine a Colombiana for $40 in house. I've never tried for TLN in Aruba, so don't know the going rate, but I doubt if it would come to $345. Again, I am not looking for a flame war here. I would appreciate a serious reply.[/QUOTE]
standard rate for a hot colombiana in house in st maarten is $40, about the same as aruba, a bit more than curucao.
the rate for overnight is totally negotiable.
do you want her to start at 8pm or are you willing to wait until they close at 2am (so she can have 4 or more clients before you)? is she in high demand most nights? then she will ask more! is she not busy? then less money. the going rate is $200 to $300 per night, but I am sure some guys pay less. it is similar with the room time - officially 20-25 minutes for $40, but I am usually in the room 45 to 90 minutes, sometimes 2 hours. same $40. depends on the girl.
I haven't ever taken TLN myself, due to scheduling problems, but I can see the charm of it. The base price is $45 to the house. After that it is up to your negotiating skills and charm.
The main advantage that St Maarten has over the stripper in the usa is that prostitution is legal in st maarten. And you have nice warm weather and beaches, etc.
-zing
I second Zing. There are indeed less expensive places elsewhere, but still pricing is reasonable in Saint Maarten. Short time sessions have standard pricing: 40$ (some bargain it down to 30$, but then don't expect good service from the chica). TLN is negotiable as Zing explained depending time of the night etc... 300$ is the starting price for TLN, I usually pay 150 to 200$ later in the night. I even once managed to get a chica for all the afternoon for 50$, only because she just arrived and wanted to visit the island's beaches (we didn't only visit beaches BTW).
The good thing about TLN in Saint Maarten is that the chicas are far from home and don't need to go back early in the morning to take care for their children. They need to be back at the Club only at 11am. In many places, the so called TLN finish in the (very) early morning. I remember in Dominican Republic , I paid 100$ for a so called TLN. I had to pay for condoms, lub, baby milk at the pharmacy, she was hungry, asked me to eat before. We arrived only at 3am at my hotelroom. She asked to leave at 5am as she needed to take care of her baby, asked me money again for taxi. Well, this was not anymore a TLN for 100$, but a quicky for 200$!
There are quantity of other good things about Saint Maarten: its a paradise island, there are upscale touristic facilities with direct flights to USA and Europe and best of all, prostitution is safe and legal (remember, it's a Dutch island).
I can deal with unsafe third world countries in South America, and I'm happy to monger there too. I love diversity and discovering new hunting grounds. But I can understand that some prefer to pay a bit more and a be in a developped and securred environment. It's a matter of personal choice.
I guess I misunderstood the post refering to $300 for TLN and thought that was an average figure. And I really can appreciate the "girls away from home" factor. It can be a bit frustrating when you're just starting to get that good morning wood and she comes out with "Lo siento mi amor, pero tengo que irme y preparar el desayuno para mis niños antes de escuela."
I second Routard and Zing. Everything is negotiable, depending of the number of clients she will expect (therefore you should get a better price during the low season - a higher price if a boat comes on the shore the same day...), the beauty of the girl, the time when you will pick her up, the way you look like. But personnaly, I do not like to bargain, because I know they are having a hard time and I hope to have a better service - i.e. GFE (which was unfortunately not the case during my last stay except but once). I only bargained once with Samantha (see my report) because she was asking 400 at 1am! Finnally, I paid 280, fine included.
[QUOTE=Delaware Guy] "Lo siento mi amor, pero tengo que irme y preparar el desayuno para mis niños antes de escuela."[/QUOTE]
Seems to remember you some kind of previous disappointing experience too ;).
Check my previous reports about TLN in Saint Maarten. The best part is the wake up in the morning and breakfast with the chica. No rush, there is time till 11am :)
Jan Chris, I appreciate your gentleman attitude regarding not negociating price with the chicas. I agree, best is not negociating price but negotiating better service for the same price.
[QUOTE=Routard] best is not negociating price but negotiating better service for the same price.[/QUOTE]
I believe that statement is worth repeating.
pogo
I had an odd experience yesterday. Keep in mind that I visit St Maarten once or twice a week.
I have been seeing Luisa at Seamans for 6 weeks: she was recommended to me by a previous favorita [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=458653&postcount=197](see previous report)[/url] and she was fantastic. I went by the St Maarten airport because Luisa was flying on DAE to Curacao at 1145. I thought I might catch her checking in between 1030 and 1100, but I did not see her. No big deal, because I was excited to see her roommate Yajaira, who Luisa had recommended to me as "tranquila" (i.e., a girl who would give unrushed GFE, with Luisa telling her what I expected I suspect).
I had an extremely nice session with Yajaira, getting to know a new chica. Unfortunately, she leaves for Colombia on Tuesday because her son is sick, so she suggested another girl, who recently arrived from Colombia.
Afterwards, she went through my collection of latin CDs and listened to selections from many. When she put on Joan Sebastian [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=478341&postcount=236](see previous report)[/url], again as with other chicas, she sang along with all the songs. I told her this was Luisa's favorite music, and then I quietly started to cry.
-zing
Zing,
I know how you feel . some of those girls are soooo sweet and gentle.
Its such a shame they have to leave. Wouldn't it be nice if you could take one home?
See ya soon,
Sailormon
[QUOTE=Jan Chris]
- Anita: The best sessions I had, but since she leaves on Monday, it does not really make sense that I go into much details. PM me if necessary.
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Seamans had a going away party last week for Anita, Luisa and Paola. I never had the pleasure of Anita's company. Sigh.....
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- Eliena (room 14): pretty girl, she has natural C-cup breast, the session was OK but too quick.
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This is the tranquila girl that was recommended to me by Yajiara, who was recommended by Luisa, etc. She is very cute. Lots of dark hair. Nice body. Yajaira leaves for Colombia today, so I will let you know soon if I get an unrushed GFE experience from Eliena. She told me she is waiting for me.
Since Carolina put up the big screen for world cup, Seamans is much more lively in the afternoon. Almost all the girls are in the Seamans bar or sitting out front on the steps and yesterday at 3pm that parking lot was packed. I will post more on Carolina in a separate report.
-zing
When I entered Carolina at 130pm yesterday it was dead. They were playing a Mexican soap opera (telenovela) on the big screen, where it seemed the woman was going to shoot herself in the head because she was getting gordo (fat). Or not. There were no guys there except me and only 2 chicas. A few chicas wandered through, but didn't stay. Ever since they put up the big screen for the world cup, I think the girls have been depressed (why strut your stuff in front of guys who are hypnotized by a sports match?).
[QUOTE=Jan Chris]- Lina (room 5): a slim lady (although she is the mother of one child), 26 but looks older, blond hair, with implants. My first session was great! She talked a lot, but was eager to please me. Lots of kisses, even French, which is exceptional. I thought it would be hard to choose someone else after her, but I still had 6 more days to come!
Needless to say that I chose her as my first TLN… and I was disappointed. She was but the shadow of herself, she told me she was exhausted. Whatever her reasons were, it was rather frustrating for me. She had the courtesy to apologize. Overall, it was a waste of time and money.
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After 10 minutes of Mexican soap opera and no chicas, I got up to leave (in retrospect, I realize that being the only guy in a brothel with 20 hot colombianos could be good, if I just asked the bartender to find one of the girls by name!). A cute girl by the door asked me to stay, because her amiga Diana was in her room and would be coming out to the bar for me (this was all in Spanish, and I understood about 75% of it, but enough to get the message). The helpful girl was Lina from room 5. Diana appeared and we three talked over a beer -- they read the news from Colombia (from my internet printout), listened to Colombian music on my Ipod. Diana told me that Lina was unhappy because her enamorado (lover) had just left for Holland. In spite of losing her lover, Lina in the bar beamed out friendliness and sexual promise when she smiled.
[QUOTE=Jan Chris]
- Diana (room 11) is a genuine Playboy type of woman: rather tall, blond hair, small nose, and a C/D cup breast that looks natural. Zing23 report is accurate. Sex was nothing exceptional, and I finally realize she could be a better friend than a sex partner. We exchange ideas about our feelings (we both fell in love in a brothel). We finally became so confident, that I can say I met a true friend, therefore we both decided not have any session together. From this moment my desire for her transformed into a sort of admiration for this attractive body. Do not expect to have GFE with her, she has someone in her mind. Please treat her well.
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Diana was 27 on her birthday last week. I happened to be there, missed a session with her because of scheduling problems, and left her a birthday gift with the bartender - a Spanish/English dictionary (wrapped with a ribbon - this is important!). Yesterday she thanked me very sweetly. We spent an hour and a half in the room (we even got a knock on the door, at which point Diana said she lost track of time) because she gave me a long, very professional massage while she listened to the Ipod, plus unrushed sex with a lot of caresses and attention. nicer, but still no DFK or DATY. Then lots of hugging and talking and a shower together (she asked me not to get her hair wet - a good tip). $40
[QUOTE=Jan Chris]Nathalie (room 13): ...
Be careful of this girl. She is extremely cute and I would have sold my soul for her, but she is the devil incarnate. [/quote]
Last week when I missed Diana I went to room 13 with Nathalie's roommate. I got to observe Nathalie close up and in her natural element, since I was not a client. She is a drama queen - complained long and hard about someone fiddling with her cellphone or something, got the roommate to carry in 3 bags of groceries that Nathalie got some guy to donate. When she finally got a guy in the bar, she came right back and banged on the door for us to finish.
The only good thing I can say about Nathalie is that she is very cute!
-zing
[QUOTE=Routard]I second Zing. There are indeed less expensive places elsewhere, but still pricing is reasonable in Saint Maarten. Short time sessions have standard pricing: 40$ (some bargain it down to 30$, but then don't expect good service from the chica). TLN is negotiable as Zing explained depending time of the night etc... 300$ is the starting price for TLN, I usually pay 150 to 200$ later in the night. I even once managed to get a chica for all the afternoon for 50$, only because she just arrived and wanted to visit the island's beaches (we didn't only visit beaches BTW).
The good thing about TLN in Saint Maarten is that the chicas are far from home and don't need to go back early in the morning to take care for their children. They need to be back at the Club only at 11am. In many places, the so called TLN finish in the (very) early morning. I remember in Dominican Republic , I paid 100$ for a so called TLN. I had to pay for condoms, lub, baby milk at the pharmacy, she was hungry, asked me to eat before. We arrived only at 3am at my hotelroom. She asked to leave at 5am as she needed to take care of her baby, asked me money again for taxi. Well, this was not anymore a TLN for 100$, but a quicky for 200$!
There are quantity of other good things about Saint Maarten: its a paradise island, there are upscale touristic facilities with direct flights to USA and Europe and best of all, prostitution is safe and legal (remember, it's a Dutch island).
I can deal with unsafe third world countries in South America, and I'm happy to monger there too. I love diversity and discovering new hunting grounds. But I can understand that some prefer to pay a bit more and a be in a developped and securred environment. It's a matter of personal choice.[/QUOTE]I've mongered in St Maarten. It is alot of fun. Casablanca, Seamans and Carolina were just a few of the places that I hit. But I still like the Dominican Republic better. There is no place like it. Sure I've have a chica that wanted to leave early when it was TLN but that was my fault since I din't negotiate well enough. Over all, I'd rather have a chica leave early after paying 50-60 USD for TLN rather than pay 200-300 USD to keep her til 11am. When I'm in the DR I usually do 2 chicas a day. The second one is always TLN. Some times I find non pro a go a few nights for free. As far as all the extras that you paid for, food taxi etc... that's on you. Live and learn.
Hi All,
I Am New To The St Maarten Scene. I Am Planning To Go The Week Of 7.20-23. Is This A Good Time Of Year To Go. Will I Find Good Prices For Chicas?? I Have Been Looking At The Holland House Hotel, Is It True That They Accept The Girls Like Every One Says?? This Forum Has Been Very Very Informative. Also I Am Looking For Thick Black Girls..which Bar Do You Guys Recommend?
Thanks For All Yhe Help In Advance
[blue]Hi,
I sincerely appreciate your reports, but...
[red][u]Would you please STOP capitalizing the first letter of EVERY word in your reports![/u][/red]
It's difficult to read, it's time consuming to fix, and it takes you more work to write like that.
On behalf of myself and your fellow Forum Members: [i]Thank You![/i]
Jackson[/blue]
I have stayed there nice hotel but they have no parking.
You have to park at Bobby's Marina and walk back to the hotel. It is a 10 minute walk and I wouldn't advise it at night.
If you don't have a car the hotel is great.
Sailormon
About Lina, Diana and Nathalie and ELiena:
- Lina is certainly a real profesionnal, a nice woman although too nervous for me, I think I was unhappy with the her the day I chose her. Worth trying a short session at least ;
- Diana : I liked her because she is a genuine sensible person and perform well ;
- Nathalie : ýes, she is very cute indeed! one of the cutest. French kisses that makes you feel she has a strong GFE potential. But beware!
- Eliena : one of the cutest of Seamans to my point of view!
A year ago I wasn't getting regular sex at all - so I started mongering in St Maarten.
Yesterday I was complaining because I had a week where sex did not include BBBJ and DFK.
Am I getting spoiled?
12:30pm. My 3rd session with [url=http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=481669&postcount=247]Diana[/url] at Carolina. She is the second most beautiful girl I have been with ([url=http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=430693&postcount=139]Sofia[/url] was the most beautiful, but I thought her name was [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=416792&postcount=93]Valentina[/url] until Routard called her Sofia!). Diana is very sexy and nice, but no DFK, BBBJ or DATY. I was about to ask her in Spanish if she found french kissing too intimate when she started french kissing me! Perhaps it takes 3 sessions for her to relax, or she liked that I bought her an iPod Nano and loaded it with 900 songs (she paid for the iPod, but I provided the music), or she likes the music that I like? Next time, try again for DATY!
2:30pm. I was looking for the very cute Eliena (rm 14 Seamans) because my previous amiga [url=http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=480433&postcount=244]Yajaira[/url] had recommended her for GFE. I only spotted Eliena for a second before she was off to the room with a customer. But Yajaira had also recommended Chrysila (not sure of the name and I asked twice), her final roommate in rm 8. She said that this Dominicana was a sex machine - and she was! And Chrysila had the advantage over Eliena that I had already seen her dance naked in her room while I was waiting for her roommate. DFK, BBBJ and DATY - no problemo. Yes! During DATY I had one finger in her pussy and another in her ass. When I slippped the fingers out, she reached down and pushed them back in. Slim, fit, black, long straight hair, with VERY long, brightly painted fingernails. Lots of time. $40.
4:00pm. Entered Defiance with 40 minutes left in my day. There are lots of Colombianas here right now, in all color shades from white to black. Quickly chose Paulo (rm 207), black, reddish hair, enhanced breasts, tight body, ok face. DFK, knelt on the floor for CBJ. Again the DATY was incredible. Two girls in a row that seemed to have long orgasms. Might try her again with DATY before BJ and see if BBBJ appears more reasonable to her (that is what happened with Chrysila). Very good sex partner, although I could not come again at this point. $40. Left Defiance right on schedule at 4:40pm.
Am I spoiled? Absolutely.
-zing
[QUOTE=Zing23][url=http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=430693&postcount=139]Sofia[/url] was the most beautiful, but I thought her name was [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=416792&postcount=93]Valentina[/url] until Routard called her Sofia[/QUOTE]
Last time, I was watching a HBO movie with Jennifer Lopez, and all my memories of that night I had spend with Sofia came back. I realized not only how much she looked like Jennifer Lopez, but also how strong she still is in my mind. Yes, by far she is the most beautifull of all the chicas I have ever met in Saint Maarten and she is by far the one that made the most effect on me. I wish I could see her again...
[QUOTE=The Show]I am new to the St Maarten scene. I am planning to go the week of 7.20-23. Is this a good time of year to go. Will I find good prices for chicas?? I have been looking at the Holland House Hotel, Is it true that they accept the girls like every one says?? This forum has been very very Informative. Also I am looking for thick Black girls..which bar do you guys recommend?
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The answers to all of your questions are here in the thread, but I will give you short answers anyway: july is low season in st maarten, hotter and not as much to do, you can negotiate lower prices ($30 vs $40) but don't expect superior service in return, holland house is girl friendly, for thick black girls try Casa Blanca, then Petit Chateau, then Sunset Retreat.
-zing
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I felt relatively safe in 2003 and 2004. During my 2005 visits I started seeing some suspicious characters near Seaman's and Casa Blanca as early as 6PM, but heard no stories of violence directly tied to the "bars."
What's it like now?
What's the buzz inside the establishments?
Is it safe during day? It looks like going at night is like asking for troubles even if you're not going in alone (which I usually am.)
WOW!
That makes a person not want to go out there. I have a trip planned for next week and now I'm trying to decide if the cab ride to and from the spots will be safe?? Is there any security to be purchased? Are the actual brothels security guard protected?? Anyboby with safety suggestions plz post them. Thanks
[QUOTE=Lucky Strike]Just read some disturbing news articles:
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It all happened in just a few days!
(the full archive is at [url]http://sxmprivateeye.com/node/215[/url] )
I felt relatively safe in 2003 and 2004. During my 2005 visits I started seeing some suspicious characters near Seaman's and Casa Blanca as early as 6PM, but heard no stories of violence directly tied to the "bars."
What's it like now?
What's the buzz inside the establishments?
Is it safe during day? It looks like going at night is like asking for troubles even if you're not going in alone (which I usually am.)[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Lucky Strike]Just read some disturbing news articles:
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[/quote] I visited Seamans, Carolina, Defiance and Casa Blanca yesterday in the daytime. The chicas were unaware of these stories, except for the one about the guy caught with the shotgun at Defiance - he had an argument with the boss upstairs in the disco and continued it in the parking lot. Nothing inside the brothel, but of course that is the same parking lot that you use!
These kinds of crimes have been happening on st maarten for several years, but have not happened much at the brothels previously. But if you think about it, drunk brothel customers, alone, off guard, 4am, sound like easy target for a mugging. Seamans and Carolina close at 2/3am as do all the other regular bars on the island. So Casa Blanca and Defiance (and perhaps Petit Chateau, and Sunset Retreat, which has the least secure parking lot) are among the few late night/early morning places for bad guys to congregate.
Daytime - no sign of any danger.
Nighttime - use big city precautions. You are probably slightly safer in a taxi than alone in your own car late at night, I would guess, since we have not had crimes by taxi drivers in St Maarten yet (as in South America).
-zing
I arrived at Seamans just as they opened at 11am. Examined the girls as they signed the book at the bar (this is early in their day, most are dressed casually compared to at night).
About 1110am I spotted my target, Eliena. To review: after 3 months with Alexandra, she recommended Juliana, who 5 weeks later recommended Luisa, who 6 weeks later recommended Yajaira, who 4 days later recommended Eliena AND the sexy Dominicana in room 8 ([url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=482914&postcount=252]previous report[/url] ). Each of these has been GFE, with long sessions up to 2 hours, all GFE services I have asked for.
Eliena smiled a quick hello, but I was talking to another girl, and girls seldom will come up to you if you are already talking to another girl. Eliena went across the bar to some other guys, had her picture taken with one of them.
Would my unbroken string of GFE recommendations continue? I am certain that Yajaira told Elenia what I like. One thing is a long relaxed session, which is one reason I try to hit the clubs early when they are not busy (it is also nice to be the first client of the day, although that is probably mostly an imaginary benefit if the girl has been out for an overnighter!)
[QUOTE=Jan Chris]
Eliena (room 14): pretty girl, she has natural C-cup breast, the session was OK but too quick.[/QUOTE] Would my session with Eliena be rushed like with Jan Chris, or would my introduction from my previous amiga bring out the best in Eliena?
Eliena is from Medellin, short - they are all mostly short. Pretty. Friendly. Will probably wink at you. Long dark hair, very white skin. One child, a girl, 5 years old. Large breasts (C?) perfectly shaped, perfect to the touch. Considering that she is from Medellin (the plastic surgery capital of the world), and she has limited hips and butt, these must be implants, but I could not tell them from the real thing!
When she undressed, I liked what I saw. And she started right off with kisses, then french kisses, then DFK.
I felt her shoulder muscles and they were quite tight, so I gave her a massage. Then her feet and calves, which made her purr, since she was wearing high-heel shoes even at 11 in the morning.
When she flipped over, I gave her the iPod earbuds to listen to some romantic latina music while I went down on her. Really tasty. A long DATY, possible orgasm (who can be completely sure).
Then she took over. She massaged my cock and balls with some baby lotion, then gave me a long massage with her breasts. Incredible. Then cleaned off the lotion with a baby wipe. Followed by a long BBBJ. More incredible. and popped on a condom. Followed by sex in cowgirl, spoon and missionary.
Wow - Eliena was best chica yet for me. And the circumstances were against her, because the electricity was out in Philipsburg so we had no air conditioning in the room. It was quite hot and we were sweating profusely. She kept the atmosphere playful and sexy despite the heat, and promised a nice cool room next time. $40. 1 hour. Total GFE (actually better than any regular girl that I have had before).
But, will I be able to alternate between Eliena the sweet GFE in room 14 and Clarissa (name?) the wild PSE in room 8? Can I convince them to share me? In the past, this has not worked, but perhaps this time if I tell them my problem first...
I visited two other girls after Eliena at other clubs, repeats, fine times, some highlights, but CBJ and no comparison. Why am I repeating with CBJ?
Then I decided to try Casa Blanca for a change. Spotted Paola from a previous visit (see [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=468915&postcount=214]older report[/url]) and shared a soft drink. Then spotted her friend Nancy, who I had liked but never tried. Good conversation. Nancy is black from Dominican Republic (all girls at Casa Blanca are shades of black from D.R.). Short, pretty, fit little figure, small breasts. Shoulder length hair. Not over aggressive like some chicas at Casa Blanca.
In the room (#1), her breasts are really attractive. Big nipples. Sensitive. She likes a soft touch there. Lots of caresses and kisses and DFK.
The Casa Blanca girls usually take you into the bathroom to wash your hands with soap, then your cock. After she rinsed me off, she gave me a quick kiss on the top of my pecker. With my encouragement, she started a BBBJ right there in the bathroom.
Continued on the bed. DATY, followed by another orgasm or excellent acting job. More BBBJ. Covered up. Cowgirl, reverse cowgirl, doggy, miss. $45 to the bar. She asked for a tip, so I gave her the $4 left in my pocket. About 30 minutes (I had to leave so I don't know if it the time might have extended - perhaps not).
Both Nancy and Eliena are highly recommended. But your mileage may vary. I now speak enough Spanish to hold a conversation, especially in the bedroom. I have some track record with these girls, which may cause some of them to step out of their normal production-line mode. I always leave small inexpensive gifts like internet news from home, music cds, bracelet, candle, candy, etc. (one girl asked me why I am so nice and I told her it must be hard for them to be so far from home and family, servicing men who may not always be that clean and nice, and all so they can make me happy!). I also have plenty of so-so sessions, which I attribute to being unable to snap the girl out of her standard process-another-client mode.
-zing
[QUOTE=Zing23]I visited Seamans, Carolina, Defiance and Casa Blanca yesterday in the daytime.
...
Daytime - no sign of any danger.
-zing[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info, Zing.
I sort of wish the bar owners were aware of what was going on - it may even affect their business to some extent.
There's one thing that keeps me uneasy - [url]http://sxmprivateeye.com/node/4560[/url] - it happened at 4:20PM! They probably knew that the guy had $4800 on him, but there's nothing you can do to prevent this from happening to you.
Do you know when Eliena scheduled to go back to Colombia?
yesterday at carolina I was sitting at the music station helping Lina pick out some songs to play. a tallish guy with a backpack walked in and stood at the bar nearby. I told her she should go to "work" since this was obviously a man in need of company. and he looked clean, reasonably fit and prosperous, and youngish.
when she got up to do something, the guy asked me a question about the music. then introduced himself by first name. then asked me, "are you zing?"
yes I am. then "thanks for all the info". exchange of pleasantries. I don't know how he recognized me, perhaps because of the iPod and the bag of goodies.
Lina returned and I recommended her to my new friend. Then I went off with another chica, so didn't have time for a good chat.
Please, anyone who visits St Maarten, DO NOT MENTION ZING or the ISG to any of the chicas. If you need to tell her that I recommended her, just say "mi amigo" or PM me for the name that the chicas know me by. Some of these chicas can read english and there is an internet cafe right next door.
This should be obvious. I hope I don't have to remind any of you of this, but being recognized made me think of it. Otherwise, there won't be anymore reports.
-zing
[QUOTE=Lucky Strike]
There's one thing that keeps me uneasy - [url]http://sxmprivateeye.com/node/4560[/url] - it happened at 4:20PM! They probably knew that the guy had $4800 on him, but there's nothing you can do to prevent this from happening to you.
Do you know when Eliena scheduled to go back to Colombia?[/QUOTE]
Never carry large amounts of cash if you can help it.
The 420pm news item could be a typo. 420am is much more likely. But 420pm is also possible, especially if they somehow knew that he had cash on him. You would hesitate to wander Manhattan with large amounts of cash - don't do it in St Maarten either.
Another common tourist mistake is to go sightseeing at some remote place on the way to the airport, with all your stuff in the car. Park at the top of Pic Paradis mountain (great views) and when you come back to your car, it will be empty. This is a remote location with guys who wait in the bushes for people like this to park and gawk at the view.
Eliena has only been in St Maarten for 3 weeks, so figure 9 weeks more!
-zing
I did not report of my last trip to SXM, because I only stayed one day.
But when I am reading Zing's report about Eliena I think he was lucky to create that sort of chemestry with her. Yes she is pretty and one of the few who have natural C-cup breast.
Thank God, I had a very good session this time with a very young 19 years old girl from D.R in Casa Blanca. Her name is Christelle and I was not only her first client ever but the second man she had sex with. I was feeling guilty, but before I made up my mind, we had a frank discussion about it. I aslked her if she was really sure about this business and myself in particular. Needless to say that I tried to be as delicate as possible with her. To say that she liked it would be a lie, but at least she did not dislike it, in her attitude and according to her own words. On my side, it was one of the best session I had in SXM, GFE, DFK, etc. I can hardly say what her future will be: if she meets too many "cochinos" she will leave very soon, but she definitly have a strong potential in this business.
Otherwise, the rest of my stay was with Valentina at Seaman's. At the beginning, I was amazed by her fake boobs, but during our TLN I realize that she was not as pretty as I found in the bar. I should have spent the rest of my time with Christelle.
[QUOTE=Zing23]
But, will I be able to alternate between Eliena the sweet GFE in room 14 and Clarissa (name?) the wild PSE in room 8? Can I convince them to share me? In the past, this has not worked, but perhaps this time if I tell them my problem first...[/QUOTE]I thought I better write this now before I chicken out, since it is fairly depressing and embarassing.
The answer to the question above is "No", I cannot have both rm 14 and rm 8 for regular GFE.
I went to Seamans looking for Eliena and Clarissa (name?). Ran into Clarissa first, but she wasn't as keen to see me as I expected. I should have paid more attention. She started by saying she was depressed to be going back to Santo Domingo on Sunday, since she makes no money there. We went to rm 8 and she told me she was very jealous that I had gone with another girl. And she really liked me. Then she just lay there! My sex machine was kaput. DATY was not enough to snap her out of it. We had sex, but really it was depressing. Repeated that she really liked me and had the most disappointed look on her face.
My new theory is that any of these girls can give you GFE if they want to, and withhold it as well. And it isn't just about money, because this one is leaving SXM before she can make any serious money from me.
I left Seamans very down. Perhaps I had ruined my chances with Eliena as well! I drove around, dropped into Carolina, had some soup with Lina, acted sad and tired. Tried to snap out of it, failed. Left, drove to Casa Blanca, didn't see Nancy from prev report, but chatted with another girl. Finished my pineapple juice and left.
Decided I should be a man and face the consequences: went back to Seamans. Eliena was in and out of bar twice quickly but either did not see me or choose to ignore me. Talked to Gloria, told her I had chica problems. Explained my problem (this is a big mistake, because making such a problem public just embarrassses the two chicas and causes problems - think of the brothel as a private girls school with cliques and rivalries, etc - like the movie "Heathers"). Clarissa asked me why I was back. I didn't explain. Left.
Drove to Defiance, feeling a bit better that I had returned to the scene of my problem, but still down. Immediately saw a chica that I have talked to several times before. Told her about my "poco problemo con dos chicas", going all the way back to December when this experiment started. And even back to September when I had my first bordello experience (unsatisfactory) at Seamans.
Guess what, that worked. She took me to her room and gave me an amazing hour, starting with salsa dancing, bbbj, daty, and some things I am not going to tell you about. And I realize there is no point in giving you the name either, since this probably only happened because I gave her my whole sad story, in Spanish, then asked her to help!
-zing
p.s. I woke up this morning with the thought that when Clarissa first said that she was jealous, I should have said "ciao", dropped $40 on the dresser, and left her room. Either she would have come after me or I would have avoided a pathetic session.
Yesterday I was sitting at the bar, talking to one girl that I know. She was giving tips to a girl who had just arrived from Colombia.
1. I asked the girls if they would like a drink. The first girl had a soft drink ($2) and the new girl asked for a glass of wine ($5), which comes with a red ticket that is worth money to her - she never drank the wine.
2. The first girl talked to me about music, about other chicas, about various things, while I massaged her calf muscles and feet. The second girl exchanged names and asked me if I wanted to go to her room. The next thing she said was "fucky,fucky"? I tried to communicate that I would like a little "amor" also, with lots of kisses. "Si, Si" she said. Then she repeated "Go to the room" every 30 seconds.
3. In the room, the first thing girl number 2 did was ask for money. I said no way.
4. She then stripped, grabbed a condom, and spread out on her back on the bed. No kisses, no caresses, no amor. She got up from the bed and undressed me. Then she tried to put a condom on a soft cock.
5. After 20 minutes, her roommate banged on the door - she jumped off me and immediately began cleaning and dressing.
There were a few good signs that should be balanced against the bad: her room was clean, she did an extremely interesting trick with the tip of her tongue lightly on my cock that actually got me hard in a hurry, and she warmed up considerably after DATY.
The two bad signs in the bar (ordering an expensive "lady" drink and aggressively pushing for a visit to her room as soon as possible) are a warning that it is going to take a lot of work (and time) in the room to get your money's worth. And chicas like this are quite common, although usually they are a bit more subtle.
-zing
P.S. I also visited 3 other chicas yesterday: Alexandra (rm 211) at Defiance who is recommended, Nancy (rm 1) at Casa Blanca who is also highly recommended, and Maritza at Petit Chateau who said she is from Cali, but in the room didn't know anything about Colombia so is probably from Dominican Republic (I have had this pulled on me by several dark skinned girls recently - I guess Colombianas have a better reputation - perhaps it is because of this board?).
Hey guys,
I'm a long time St. Maartener living in Miami these days. I'm wondering if anyone has any recomendations as far as chicas who would be willing to do some photo shoots when I am down next week. I haven't done any formal shoots with the girls from SXM since I only started my career as a photographer a few months ago but I will certainly try on this visit. Any reccomensations on who looks the best and where to find them would be greatly appreciated. See you guys at the bars(I will probably be at Carolinas every day) and be careful.
Hey Guys,
I'm going to be visiting St. Martin in a couple of weeks (early August 06) with my girlfriend. She loves women as much as I do so we're toying with the idea of visiting one of St. Martin's finer establishments. :)
Can anyone tell me if any of the clubs/establishments are more women friendly than the others? That is, are we going to get stared at walking in as a couple? Are any of the girls there willing to take on couples?
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
[QUOTE=Yellow B]Hey Guys,
I'm going to be visiting St. Martin in a couple of weeks (early August 06) with my girlfriend. She loves women as much as I do so we're toying with the idea of visiting one of St. Martin's finer establishments. :)
Can anyone tell me if any of the clubs/establishments are more women friendly than the others? That is, are we going to get stared at walking in as a couple? Are any of the girls there willing to take on couples?
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.[/QUOTE]
Both Seamans Club and Carolina are very friendly places and they are very close to each other. They are used to dealing with tourists. I have seen a couple go to the room in Seamans and have seen couples at the bar in Carolina a few times. You will need to ask about getting a chica to take on a couple, but it shouldn't be a major problem.
I suggest you make an adventure out of it. watch the girls work on the guys. have a drink. talk to the girls. If you go to the bathroom and a new guy walks in, he might proposition your girl friend !
good luck!
-zing
This is to reply to EMC model question.
Diana (see mine and Zing report) was one of the girl who accepted to be photographed, but I suspect others will like to do it.
Simply choose the one you want and ask her/them if she is interested, how much she asks, etc.
In Seamans and Carolina you will get some nice ladies.
Man crime has gotten WAY worse than a few years ago (somebody stole the rearview mirror off my rental car in the parking lot at Defiance Haven but not a big deal). I used to cruise alone late at night up to Casa Blanca and back and never felt unsafe.
Much of the other discussion sounds like not much has changed except I do not recall Carolina's. Seaman's Club at opening time used to be quite luctarive.
Sounds like more Colombianas nowadays, or at leat girls CLAIMING to be Colombian. This is a common scam (playing on their reputation as great providers) not limited to SXM, though more often they try and claim to be Brasilian than Colombian.
Is the fleece joint strip club next to Maho Beach Hotel still around?
Just got back from SXM a few hours ago.
MUST visit with Monico in #9 at Carolina. Tall with black hair medium chest natural.
I spent a lot of time with her at Carolina and two TLNs, one TLN was from 3pm till 11 am .We went to dinner a few times and to the beach between 4 and 8.
Very tranquila- mucho tiempo-anything you want, soft and gentle.
I also had one session with Eliena in #14 at seaman’s very nice but I liked Monico twice as much. Monico leaves August 10.
Four new girls came in from Columbia Tuesday at Carolina , one young one with an incredible figure HUGE chest. I was at Carolinas at sign in at 11am. what a fashion show. there are at least a dozen girls in a number of flavors with amazing tight bodies and great chests.
However, I am coming to believe that the slightly older girls “try harder”
The girl in seaman’s with the long nails in #8 is named Loreen.
She originally said she was from PR having spent much time in PR I asked her specifically where she was from; she eventually admitted she was a dominicana. Had three good sessions with her including a back door.
There is also a curly haired girl with black hair with reddish highlights in room 3 (I think) at Carolina. The staff at Carolina said she gives the best BJ at the club. She certainly had my toes curled up. In addition, Maria in room 10 is also a contender for a world-class bj. Everyone I went with were bbbj .
Young girl tall and thin nice boobs named Jamina in room somewhere between 1-4 waste of time.
But again Monico is a must in #9.
Sailormon
[QUOTE=Sailormon]Just got back from SXM a few hours ago. MUST visit with Monico in #9 at Carolina. Tall with black hair medium chest natural. I spent a lot of time with her at Carolina and two TLNs, one TLN was from 3pm till 11 am .We went to dinner a few times and to the beach between 4 and 8. Very tranquila- mucho tiempo-anything you want, soft and gentle....[/QUOTE]Thanks for the great report. Will absolutely try to hook up with Monico and remember you to her!
-zing
[QUOTE=Sailormon]MUST visit with Monico in #9 at Carolina. Tall with black hair medium chest natural. I spent a lot of time with her at Carolina and two TLNs, one TLN was from 3pm till 11 am .We went to dinner a few times and to the beach between 4 and 8. Very tranquila- mucho tiempo-anything you want, soft and gentle.[/QUOTE] Thank you so much for this recommendation Sailorman. I might not have selected Monica without it and that would have been a major loss for me.
Visited Monica yesterday at Carolina. Very very nice hour. GFE, lots of kisses and caresses, DFK, BBBJ, DATY, even suggested and delivered anal after I tickled her hole with my finger during DATY.
I have her phone number if anyone wants to PM me for it (Carolina is mostly empty of chicas during the daytime now, they are all in their room, so an appt is not a bad idea), or just ask for her at the bar and hope she is around (11am to 4pm they are supposed to be on site, but there is little business for them so I think they slip away to do errands).
-zing
Now if some of the other people that we have helped about St Maarten with reports and PMs would post trip reports and recommendations as soon as they get home, we would really be able to reward the great chicas that they discover by giving them more business!
i was in saint maarten for two days and went to my favorite club, carolinas. i was looking forward to see my favorite, louisa (room 13). unfortunately, i didn’t see her, but it was still early. here a good tip: come at 8pm and sit at the bar. all the girls need to register at the bar, and you will be sure not to miss anyone. it allowed me to check how the other girls looked like, and imho, only nathalia (room 5) could compete with louisa regarding beauty. they both have a petite teenage body with a cute [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url] face. but the negative review from jan chris about her did not encourage me to have a try. it was already 9pm, and i still hadn’t seen louisa. i started to worry, and guessed that she might be ill. i went to see nathalia and asked for louisa. nathalia confirmed that louisa was there, and offered me to go to call her.
louisa finally entered the main room, and came to see me. but god, what a chock! i haven’t seen her for almost a month, and she looked like shit. she had lost weight and looked very tired. i inquired about her health, and told me she had a cold a few days ago. while discussing with her, i noticed that even if she looked bad, she was still more beautiful that in my mind. i felt concerned about her and wanted to help her. she needed some rest. i offered her to go out of the club and do whatever she wanted. she agreed and asked me to wait so she could dress herself in a more descent manner. i paid the multa (45$) at the bar and we went out. she asked me to go to an outgoing center in saint maarten. i offered her to dinner, but said she was not hungry. while having a drink, we discussed further, and i realized why she looked so bad. she didn’t sleep much, didn’t eat much, worked a lot, drank too much alcohol, smoked too much and took too much other stuff. so i asked her to consider not taking anything that could harm her body and instead heading back to the hotel and go early to bed.
once back at the hotel, we took a shower together. i gave her some pills against the flu she had and we went to bed. she came in my arms, and grabbed a condom. i didn’t want her to have sex if she considered it as a job, so i declined. she laughed and said that i wouldn’t refuse very long. she came on me and rubbed her pussy on my bare dick. yes of course, soon i begged her for the condom! she was very enthusiastic while having sex on top of me, so i guessed she genuinely enjoyed it, even if she had no orgasm. i had mine for sure. we were both very tired and soon we felt asleep. when i woke up next morning, she was still asleep. i took my shower and came back in bed. she opened her eyes, looked at me, smiled and felt deeply in sleep again. she was completely secured and even in her sleep she naturally grabbed my body. god what was she beautiful while sleeping! even if i dared not to move during all the time she slept, i enjoyed having such a beautiful body in my arms. while she finally woke up, she was worried at first, as it was already 11am! i offered her to stay longer, no problem i would pay the second multa. i was so happy to see that she went much better than the day before, that was all what mattered to me. well not all, let’s be honest, i was also fucking horny by watching all that time her wonderful body. i did my routine approach, but realized that she was not as enthusiastic as the evening before. so i stopped and instead offered her to have breakfast.
we went after back to the club, i paid the second multa while she took her bathing suit to go to the beach. we went for a few hours to oriental beach. i was proud being with such a beautiful girl. she has a perfect teenage petite body and a nicely clear tanned skin. also her face looks more european than typical south american. i took a few pics, just check it by yourself. i allow myself to put them on the board because the pics respect her dignity (not naked) and her anonymity (no face). we entered the sea after lunch. while in the sea, she clamed on me and kissed me tenderly. what a magical moment in such a paradise environment! it made me again horny and i begged her to go back to the room. but this time, she was horny too. we had a nice session, but still i would not consider it as gfe.
during all the time we had spent together, we talked a lot. for sure, she considered me as a friend in which she could trust, but i was definitely not a lover for her. we learned to know us much better during all that time. i had inquired a lot about any problem she could have. but she mainly needed some rest. if she was physically weak, she was mentally very strong. she knew how to deal with the emotional issue of her job, that’s why i couldn’t get a real gfe from her. we both shared our previous experiences when we were trapped by our emotions and feelings, she as a sp and i as a customer. when she inquired about my feelings for her, i answered that she could easily turn my head upside down if she wanted, but that it wouldn’t happen, as for that there must be mutual chemistry. she tried first to fake by answering that i couldn’t know what were her feelings, but she preferred to be honest and replied that it would be stupid, for me and for her.
i learned a lot with her. she indeed confirmed me that very often the chicas are trapped my their emotions, especially when it’s their first contract. most time the first contract is nearby colombia, in aruba. all chicas there fall in love at least once. whow, definitely a place to explore! apart the emotional issue, being fucked every day by a dozen strangers doesn’t seem to be a major issue, except sometimes some health problems. i learned also that every week there is a doctor visit, once a week a general doctor and the next week a gynaecological specialist.
i learned her also a lot about the scenes in other countries. she was very interested about that as she planned to continue her career in another country. she was amazed by my knowledge and said i should write a guide! i finally admitted about my activities on internet, even if i didn’t mention the name of our forum as well as my nickname. she asked me to keep in touch, as she needed my advice.
it was already the end of the day and i had to choose whether i continued again for a tln or whether i brought her back to the club. i checked my cash and realized i wouldn’t have enough for a second round. i was embarrassed, and i told her. i added that it was difficult for me having to bring her back to the brothel after having spend 24 hours together with her. but on the other hand i was happy to see her in a much better shape than the day before. she smiled, and said that i worried too much for her, that she was fine. she didn’t want to feel me uncomfortable, she was happy for the time spend with me and now she just had to go back to work. i handed her 400$ for the 24 hours, but she didn’t check the amount.
we were back at carolina before 8pm. she asked me to stay, but i preferred to leave. i didn’t want her to see continuing working. i came back later at the night. she went straight to me, asking were i was all that time. we had a drink together, discussed while she was in my arms. but i knew i had to leave her doing her job. she left me for her customers, and i stayed alone. strange, no chica came to see me. there is some kind of mutual agreement between chicas not to try to catch the regular customer of another chica. so here i was, alone, looking to louisa being with other men. we all know what we have to do when we have an emotional issue with a girl: fucking another girl!
i grabbed nathalia and asked her to go to the room. i definitely was looking for a bad session, choosing a girl that had been reported as having bad attitude and not even making some small talks before. i always make great efforts before in order to have the best session, and this time it was the contrary. yes, it was the girl that made great efforts to relax me before the session. once in the room, she undressed me slowly and offered me a massage. while giving the massage, she said: “estas triste porque estas enamorado”. in a way, my feelings for louisa seemed to touch her and she was determined to give the best of her. and indeed, she genuinely gave everything. while we had sex, she stimulated her clitoris on the same time with her hand. she was close to have her orgasm too i believe, but i simply came before. when we let the room, the guy behind the counter stopped us, telling that we stayed way too long. i needed to pay him another 3$ for the room. i inquired about the time, and he showed me we stayed for one hour plus it was already closing time. he also suggested me to pay more the chica as she deserved it too. i had paid nathalia 40$ and at no moment she asked me for more. but he was right, and i gave her another 20$.
i know jan chris had a bad experience with nathalia, but she seemed to have learned a lesson with it. i believe she deserves a second chance. my experience with her was excellent. just don’t pay upfront.
as the club was already closed, i couldn’t say goodby to louisa. but i discovered she had left her bikini in my hotel room. so i brought her stuff back the next morning, said farewell to her and catched the latest airplane before saint maarten was closed for the rest of the world with a hurricane alert.
Routard,
Great report.
You mentioned the health checkups at Carolina.
Exactly what type of check ups are done there?
considering that a number of people doing daty.
I wonder what room was nathalia in.
Do you speak fluent spanish?
Fair winds,
sailormon
Routard,
Great Report! wow! The detail is incredible. I will post up some professional quality photos of my upcoming visit to SXM(pics of the chicas that is)
I found out that the girls at Casa Blanca have their weekly medical exam on Monday afternoon from about 2pm to 4pm and it is off site, so there will be almost no girls in the bar at that time!
Have visited Nancy in rm 1 at Casa Blanca 4 times in last 4 weeks. Short Dominicana, looks young because of her trim body, smooth skin, perky breasts, tight bun, girl next door look. But she says she will be 29 this month. Our first session was GFE, so I gave her a few small gifts and they keep getting better.
Last visit I started by giving Nancy a good back massage because she had very tight muscles in her shoulders and lower back. Then she massaged my back a bit, also sliding her whole body back and forth over my back, lubricated by her juices! Without any DATY or explicit simulation, she was completely aroused - just dripping and lips engorged - bigger than I have ever seen on a woman before. She took me through three positions that no other SP has used (in my less than 1 year experience): she sat on the corner of her dresser and I entered her standing, she put one leg on the ground and one bent on the bed and I entered from the rear, then she lay down on the hard tile floor for missionary (intense, but hard on my knees!). Total time: about 45 minutes in the room.
$45 to the bar, plus $1-$10 gift (copy of cd, small stuffed animal or bracelet), plus a tip of $10 that she asked for the 3rd time. This visit I gave her a $20 tip because of the extra GFE.
Note: I had stopped giving cash tips to the chicas, because I found that it didn't lead to better repeat service. instead I give small personal gifts if I am pleased. If they do ask for a tip, $5 or less is probably enough.
Nancy says she will be in Casa Blanca until December (if we understood each other correctly). I have her phone number if anyone likes this type. I don't find the other girls at Casa Blanca right now very enticing.
Carolina Update:
Saw Monica again in rm 9. Much nicer sessions than the session 2 weeks ago with the cute girl in rm 2 who is much younger and prettier! Monica leaves for Columbia next Thursday.
Don't have any other girls at Carolina to recommend from personal experience but there are some new ones.
Seamans Update:
In the afternoon, there are more girls in the Seamans bar than at Carolina (often the Carolina bar is empty - at this time of year there are only about 2 cruise ships a week). A few new girls at Seamans that look cute enough. Eliena is still in rm 14, but I haven't seen her recently (perhaps she is very busy). At night I assume both places have all their girls out in the bar.
I sat on the steps outside to talk to 3 girls from D.R. - they were bored. Asked what was in my bag - I said it was a magic bag (magia). Then showed them my latino cds. They talked me out of a cd each (50 cents to copy, not a big expense to make some new friends in the brothel). Asked for a kiss in return from each. What else is in the bag? Showed a few more items from my brothel visit kit.
Then I showed them my supply of condoms - I don't care for the ones they supply and I prefer Durex Avanti. I also had 3 boxes of fruit flavored condoms that I had purchased during a week when it seemed like I was never going to get another BBBJ. They got the idea immediately - this would make "chupa" (sucking) much more enjoyable for them. Strawberry, Pineapple, Cherry, ... Since I now have 5 chicas for BBBJ again, I don't need the fruit flavored condoms. So I gave each a box. Got an offer of a 4-way session next week if I want it!
-zing
Just a reminder about Natalia :
My first session with her was very good : this is the reason why I decided to take her for a TLN. She is one of the very few who does FK.
And I must say even after my "inconveniency" with her, I was attracted by her nice face and body like a mad.
So beware! Her strategy is to attract you and indeed she gives a lot the first time.
Furthermore, when we went to the restaurant and danced together at "La Chapelle" on Thursday, I had an extraordinary social time: she is more educated than the average girl and know how to create the impression that you are not anymore with a working girl.
But she is above all a very good actress... so do not get abused!
My advice : have short sessions with her not TLN...
St. Martin is not my favorite island in the Caribbean; Seaman Club is not my favorite bar in St. Martin (I am a patriot of Campo on Curacao). However, since I happened to be in St. Martin, I visited Seaman without any definite plan for the night. As I was about to start working on my beer, I noticed a pair of very shapely legs. I looked up; the girl was talking to another customer with her back to me, but I could see that her figure was every bit as good as the legs.
Minutes later, I got to see her face. I thought I remembered her from Campo. Over there, the girl always stood at the door of her room wearing some old baggy street dress. I never approached her; she seemed distant and, worse yet, not very attractive. What a difference a new wardrobe makes! (She later told me that virtually all her “work clothes” of which she has a bundle were purchased for her by a particular very happy and grateful customer; I think I now understand what was going through the guy’s mind). I started talking to her; indeed, she had been to Campo a couple of times. She looked positively gorgeous in her tight black dress. After the usual preliminaries, we retired to her room.
Cecilia turned out to be an eyeful and a handful, and I turned out to be a stupid fool for going after 19 and 20 year-old chicas in Campo and missing out on the pleasures Cecilia had to offer (she is a bit older). After a “private show”, she gave me a couple of minutes of very decent massage; I do not know what possessed me, but I stroked her hair which gently pushed back at me. This somehow changed the whole tenor of the encounter; Cecilia opened up and proceeded to demonstrate her many talents; she has a very talented tongue and mouth and a few other talented places. It was a weird combination of the energy level of an 18-year old and the lovemaking skills of a mature woman. A particular pleasure was to touch her skin that was also like that of an 18-year old; she is dark-skinned and has a sort of eternal tan.
I am grateful to fate for giving me a second chance at Cecilia. She has just begun her usual three-month tour at Seaman. She is definitely not a girl for half an hour; as soon as tomorrow I will be back to take her out for the night. Expensive, but worth every cent of it and then some. What an idiot was I in Curacao!
What is Cecilias room number?
Sailormon
Went by Seamans at 11:15am, but did not meet Cecilia - perhaps next time. There seem to be a lot of girls from D.R. in residence this summer, not so many Colombianas as in the winter. Left without selecting anyone.
Went by Carolina at 12:00 noon to see Monica for last time. Several guys in the bar, few girls, usually the same 2 young ones from rm 2. Did not see Monica, asked a couple of chicas, no help. Moved on.
Went to Defiance at 12:30pm, walked into the back and found the door to rm 211 open and Alexandra brushing her hair. Stepped into the room for a fun session. $40 plus bought her lunch at Kappers bar across the parking lot, although I ate half of it.
Went to Casa Blanca at around 2pm and found little Nancy (rm 1) right inside the door by the jukebox. Talking with tall Nancy from rm 8. Bought 3 drinks, plus $1 for the jukebox for some romantic music (no reggaeton). Talked until Nancy #8 wandered off, then snuggled and hugged and when the 3 songs were over, paid Ramona the bartender $45 and went to the room. Yummy, and each time is different - no set routine with Nancy. She mentioned to Nancy#8 that I have many chicas at Carolina, Seamans,etc. Don't know if I told her this one time, or she heard it from the lady that goes around to all the brothels providing services for the chicas. In any case, my session was not quite so 100% GFE as last week. Still very good. Perhaps it bothered her that I didn't climax the last 2 times (because of too many previous chicas). This time I did - the chicas put a lot of focus and energy into getting your leche. Nothing to worry about - just be positive and nice to them, then move on if necessary.
Went back to Carolina at 330pm. Again several guys in the bar, but few girls. Sat for a bit watching to see if any chicas come out of the back. More guys come in. Went over to the bar and talked to a cute girl there. Told her I was looking for Monica in rm 9. She smiled and said she would check the room. Returned shortly: mal noticias (bad news). Monica gone to Columbia. Told her I was very sad (muy triste), would need to cry on her shoulder (lacrimos). Let her stroke my head a bit and snuggle up. Hmmm she is actually quite smooth and curvy. Pretty face, not beautiful.....
Beatrice (bay-treec) from Medellin. Nice conversation. Told her what I was going to miss (besos, acaricias, etc.) More snuggling. More talking. Just enough time for a visit to her room... nosotros vamos (we go!).
Beatrice (perhaps rm 7?) was very nice. Good body when undressed (just a few extra pounds at the waist, but nice large natural breasts, super smooth skin). French kisses. Lots of stroking. Gave her a massage. CBJ - I asked if it could be uncovered next time and she smiled and said yes. Several positions. Did not climax. I told her not to worry about it, I was tired. $40 plus a small gift. Will repeat. Monica who?
-zing
Great report,
Keep them coming.
Ii hope to be in sxm soon so please keep us all updated.
Sailormon
today one of the chicas asked me if I wrote a report about her on the internet at some international sex site. it was intellectually interesting that she could communicate this complex question without being fluent in english or me being totally fluent in spanish.
one of her amigos (clients), a frenchman, said he read about her on the internet and gave enough descriptive details that she could figure out that it was me.
luckily she is a fairly level-headed woman and usually seems to have discretion, but who knows how she really is. she is from a 3rd world country and rightfully does not have much trust for people. luckily i said nice things about her here. I asked her to keep this info secret and not tell the other chicas, but I don't know what will happen next. i said some negative things about some of the chicas that are still in st maarten, and chica drama can be intense.
i don't know if i will write anymore reports....
-zing
zing,
I can't believe someone would make mention of this site.
That kills the intamacy that the chicas believe they have with us and greatly reduces the great feedback that we give to each other.
WHAT A JERK.
Sailormon
Here is an interesting bit of information that was sent to me in a PM:
[quote]At Carolina, I went to the back rooms and knocked on Louisa's door. She was resting but I started with her, since she was beautiful and eager to please.
[/quote]
He probably didn't realize that what he discovered was that he could just walk back into the rooms at Carolina. This may not be the official policy at Carolina, but if you are a tourist you can just act stupid and get away with a lot. Normally you pay the bar $3 before you go back to the room with a girl - don't forget to pay the $3 on the way out! The rooms are thruogh the door on the right side of the stage in the bar.
This is important information, since at Carolina the girls usually hang out in their rooms if there aren't likely to be many customers in the bar.
-zing
Hi,
Can you elaborate on your visit to Carolina?
Room numbers, anything "special"?
Thanks,
Sailormon
Normally the chicas are in St Maarten with a 3 month visa, then must return home. Sometimes there are exceptions (eg, Viviana who was at Carolina for 8 months). The 3 month limit means that when you read about a great chica here, she may be gone by the time you arrive in SXM.
This week Diana (rm 11) at Carolina told me that she is going to be in St Maarten until December, 2006! She has already been here 2 months and I have reported on her before, as has Jan Chris. This is a very beautiful strawberry blond from Colombia, good service, very nice person, gorgeous face and body to die for, small amount of English. And she charges the same $40 as all the other chicas!
-zing
p.s. was there yesterday and Diana can be quite busy. ask at the bar.
There is a big construction project at Casa Blanca. Adding a new wing of what look like bedrooms.
My favorite chica, little Nancy, told me they were adding a swimming pool also! Yesterday was my last session with Nancy before she leaves St Maarten. It was very nice. incredible bbbj. rm 1. leaves august 21. (note: be sure to let her wash your privates first in the bathroom, with the special soap that chicas believe wards off evil spirits, or disease. one time we skipped that phase and ended up with cbj)
-zing
Had a very short stay in Saint Maarten, went to Carolina at 11am and went to the back in the rooms' area. The barkeeper saw me and told me they don't allow anymore customers to go unaccompanied in the rooms' area. I asked for Louisa, he told me she was not yet back from a TLN. I decided to wait for her at the bar. As it was 11am, I saw all the chicas coming one by one to sign in the register. I noticed quiet a lot new chicas worth to try. One came to chat with me. She was very spontaneous, I offered her a drink, but told her I was waiting for Louisa. when Louisa came, she professionally left.
Louisa looked great. She was happy to see me, and had a lot to tell. I told her also about my trip to Trinidad (check the Trinidad thread, I made an interesting general description about the Trinidadian scene, compared it to the Saint Maarten scene and met even a few chicas from Saint Maarten in Trinidad). Louisa was enthusiastic, it was her last week before she returned to Colombia, and she had earned a lot of money during two weeks. You bet, I expected it already with the nice report I made about her on ISG including pics!. I told her I had not much time, it was probably the last time we would see us, so we went to the room.
I’m not used to have a favorite as I prefer to change each time. Louisa is probably the first regular I have ever had. Yes, I realized except once with Nathalia, I’ve not seen any other girl than Louisa in Saint Maarten since two month. Louisa does not fake any romance with me, but I believe there is a true friendship between us. It was nice to feel once again her small familiar body against mine. I told her it was a special moment, as even if we would meet us once again, it was at least the last time I would feel her body like this. Yes, I failed in persuading her not to enhance her breast, even if I warned her it may change her type of customers. She had planned to do it once back in Colombia.
I was not really into having sex, I just wanted to be have her in my arms and feel her body against me. I saw her eyes closing when caressing her. She said she liked my tenderness, it made her dreaming away. I inquired about what she liked, but she didn’t answer and closed her eyes. My bare dick was slowly and gently rubbing her pussy. She finally answered, and asked me to me make her love while she was sleeping. Strange, she asked me to do her what is in fact one of my fantasy, being fucked by a girl while dreaming. So I couldn’t refuse such request. She just could slip me a condom on before falling in sleep. I entered very slowly, she had put no lub, so I had to wait each time it was wet enough to enter more. I had a very slow rhythm. She was really asleep and didn’t move, I needed very much concentration to feel her emotions through her vagina contractions. Time was endless, she was asleep anyway. I enjoyed not to care about time, watch her beautiful naked body, her pretty face and being able to have slowly sex. After some time, I felt she wanted to turn in her sleep. I managed to change slowly position and penetrate her from behind without waking her up. I managed even to change for a third position. I finally silently orgasmed and closed my eyes too, resting inside her. When she finally woke up, she smiled and realized I was still inside her. She had no idea how long we stayed together. We took a shower together and I joked that she had earned money while sleeping. She asked me to tell I paid for one hour if somebody asked me about it. We exchanged addresses, and I might go once in Colombia as I would really like to meet her outside her professional scope.
[QUOTE=Routard] Time was endless, she was asleep anyway. I enjoyed not to care about time, watch her beautiful naked body, her pretty face.[/QUOTE]Sounds good.
Yesterday I went to Carolina at 540pm to drop off something for a chica. The bar was dark and quiet - the bartender was mopping the floor. One guy was talking to one girl in the chairs next to the sound system.
I walked into the back and the lobby area was empty and quiet.
I looked down the hallway and all the doors were closed and it was absolutely quiet.
I knocked lightly on the chica's door and whispered her name.
Short pause, then she opened the door a bit and looked out. The room was dark. She was pleased with the delivery, gave me a quick kiss; talking softly she pointed to the bed, where her roommate was cuddled up with a client, apparently asleep. shhhh...
I gave her another kiss on the cheek and whispered ciao.
.... I think I am going to reserve a nice chica for long afternoon nap.
Note: other people have reported that the chicas at Carolina must sign in at
the bar at 8pm, when the evening shift starts. The period from 5pm to 8pm is
their time to get ready for the night, and their nap time!
-zing
I just returned from St Maarten for a very quick first time visit. I'm a Brasil frequesnd you will see a Texeco. Continue going straight passing a Shell station (yellow) passing another KFC on your left and just past that is JERK, a Jamaican restaurant with Curry goat an chicken patters for $7 bucks (jonnie cakes, plantain, jerk pork, chicken.). Continuing this road passing through another turnabout you will come to yet another Shell station where the road vers left. You want to stay take the road branching off to the right basically almost driving straight. Important: This is the road to Seamans Crystal, Carolines and Casablanca. If you make a left at the first intersection you come to and look left at the first building being Seamans (no cover, $2 Presidente beer Dominicans and Columbians 4-6 about 20 girls plus a few clients at 10pm. If you take that same road about a half a mile down passing a church turn right and on your right will be Crystal Club. Small dump girls 1 to 5 thats right 1 to 5. I saw a 1 who said she was from Gana. Loud bar girls always hangin out the door, can't miss it. Carolines is across the street, the building on the right and quiet. I had to ask the ug from Gana where it was it was so quiet. Small bar good music 10 Columbians 5 to 6 with one 7 who was lap dancing a table full of Felipenos (spell check). She was doing a damn good job too! Didn't partake 2 much belly nothing caught my eye.
Get back on that road and continue to the end to get to Casa Blanca. Make a left at the dead end go straight a ways. It's not close to the others so you have to trust that your going the right way. Go up the hill staying straight, don't veer right I think I saw o Captain something hotel sign in this area, but stay straight! You will pass a club on your right which sits up high above the road with parking on the left side of the street and loud music. Keep going and Casablaca sits way back on the right up a hill with big letters. I found it during a power outage and no lights. 30 to 40 girls 4 to 8 with all dominican all shades alot of nice asses pretty and very very playfull. This place was the largest by far and to me had the best selection. $45 for twenty minutes (mine was alot longer) sign says $110 for an hour. Girl I had was a 7 pretty light brown short with a track runners body ass and legs. Cbj varias postions no rush, but asked me to make love (meaning go slow) because I'm black and I gues big. Paulina room 25 leaving at the end of the month.
St Maarten is very safe at any hour and can be seen in a short time. Everyone is helpful. Driving is a breeze (no New Yorkers here), great eating variety, cheap beer (as low as 75 cents for a Carib beer at Mr Busbys on Dawn beach) Casinos, clubs, good rock and roll radio station, great hip hop reggae station (I didn't use my I pod the whole time) and lots of great beaches, a world famous nude beach named Orient (which I partook and got in my be-day suit as it was my be-day. What the hell right! ) Only black guy on the beach. I must say that nothing beats swimming naked, its 10 times better than walking round the house naked. St Maarten is a top five travel and monger destionation in my book surpassing Costa Rica and the DR in my Book.
The last time I went to Platinum Room was about 6 months ago. I went to Platinum Room to check out the new girls. I do not like to go to Platinum Room, because I prefer Golden Eyes and Bada Bing, and everything at Platinum Room is overpriced. I was approach by two Russian Girls. They asked me to buy them a drink. I told them that I have to go meet some friends, but I told them that I will take care of them if they take care of me, so they quoted me a price of $500.00, and this is a slow season for St Maarten. I would never contribute to these inflated prices, so if you are willing, services are available from these Russian gals which I consider them to be about 5, 6, and 7.
Did the rounds Sunday from 1130am to 605pm. No cruise ships in port. My previous problem with a chica learning about my posts on the forum appears to have died down and not spread. I saw her today briefly and there was no mention of it.
My main base was Carolina. A major inconvenience at Carolina from 11am to 8pm is that most of the chicas are not in the bar! When I arrived there were 7 guys in the bar and only 1 girl. What to do? Look in the restaurant. Look in the "hotel" lobby to see who is sitting on the sofas. Walk to the back of the rooms, saying 'hola' to any open doors! Join any chicas that look interesting. If you have a name you are looking for, ask for her at the bar, or ask one of the other girls.
Estefani (sp?) was in the bar. She is 22, thin, small breasts, pretty face, long dark hair, slightly taller than other girls.
I had gone with her before about 2 weeks ago and although the service was generally good, I disliked her asking for money upfront and I prefer a BBBJ to a CBJ. I reminded her who I was, we talked for a while, she asked if I wanted to go to the room and although I generally don't tell the chicas why I won't repeat with them, because I don't like to say negative things and possibly get in an argument, in this case I decided to experiment by being truthful. I said I had 2 small problems from our previous time together. I gave her my complaints and she said 'no problem'. I think she had just arrived in st maarten that last time, when she asked for the money first.
This was all in Spanish - studying Spanish is really paying off. I now can hold a reasonable conversation with the chica about most topics and can ask for help when the Spanish gets too tough or too fast. And sometimes I cannot think of the word I need to be precise.
In the room, I took a shower because I was quite hot and sweating, then she only had paper towels to dry me off (it wasn't her room). So I laid on the bed still damp. Some nice kisses and caresses, then a BBBJ. Covered, cowgirl, finished in doggie. Followed by cleanup and a nice massage. Only thing I missed was DATY and I didn't ask for that explicitly. $40 and a CD and a small gift (cute bar of soap in the shape of a teddy bear).
Recommended, but probably best to whisper your needs in her ear while she is trying to close the deal in the bar!
Went to Defiance and got a cold water from the bar and a beer for Dani, a new girl (3 days), very cute, black, implants, youngish, probably from Columbia. Saw Sharon who I reported on a couple of months ago - she looks tired (perhaps sat night was busy). Went to the snack bar across the parking lot and ordered a grilled chicken sandwich ($5). It was very nice.
Looked through my note papers from previous visits and found a phone number for Beatriz (rm 7) at Carolina. I had actually been looking for her when I went in earlier, so I phoned the number! Made a date for 20 minutes later, in the bar at Carolina.
Since Defiance is only a 3-minute drive from Carolina, I stopped at Seamans - lots of chicas around, plenty of guys. Talked to 2 chicas that I know. Didn't see anything that would make me cancel my appointment.
Back at Carolina at about 130pm, talked briefly to 3 chicas in the doorway, then talked briefly to Lina and Diana (roommates, rm 11). Have reported on Diana before. Have had 2 sessions with Lina. Full of energy. Thin, implants. Enthusiastic DFK, BBBJ, and DATY. Very likely orgasm the first time, or incredible acting. Both are recommended.
Then spotted Beatriz sitting demurely across the bar. Wasn't sure I would recognize her (see previous report where she consoled me for the loss of Monica). Short, large natural breasts. Not thin. Not the most beautiful girl there, but pretty and incredibly friendly and attentive. Gave her $6 for the bar and told her not to rush ($3 is the regular fee, $6 is for over 30 minutes). Lots of kissing and french kissing. Slowly undressing. Massaged her feet and calf muscles. DATY forever. Long BBBJ. Asked me if I wanted to finish with Chupando (sucking) or put on a condon and finish with sex. I chose chocha - which she recognized as meaning her pussy. A totally excellent session, although I could have laid and caressed her for 15 minutes more. but she didn't take the hint. 45 minutes. left $50 and a music CD.
Asked her if I could come back again (tambien) at 4pm for a snuggle and nap until 6pm. Wasn't sure what answer I got. It wasn't an enthusiastic yes answer, more a vague answer. Perhaps my Spanish failed me here, because she wasn't around at 4pm when I returned.
Went out to Casa Blanca, although I expected that Nancy (rm 1) had left. Bar was full of guys (up to 12) and only a few girls. Saw a girl that was my first girl at Carolina last fall (then saw her at Defiance and then had her again at Petit Chateau- I think she now lives in St Maarten, was not one of the working girls at Casa Blanca. Saw her in the parking lot at Defiance last month too - perhaps she got married!). No sign of Nancy. Not sure I had enough energy left for her anyway.
Went to Carolina for the possible 4pm nap with Beatriz, no sign of her, knocked on her room door lightly, no answer. Left.
Drove to Petit Chateau just to see if anything had improved recently. Same line up. Nothing of interest. One dirty blond Columbiana gave me the eye. I walked out into the courtyard where the rooms are and saw a few guys, one girl. The Columbiana touched me gently on the arm and guided me into her room (6) which is right across from the bar. Sat on her bed and drank my Ting, had a nice chat. A tranquil girl from Cali, another Estefani, but older and more pounds. Good conversation. She told me that the word for a nap is 'siesta', which I knew, but could not think of earlier.
Left after ten minutes conversation - the room had 2 fans, but no a/c and there is a broken sewage main outside the rooms on that side of Petit Chateau! $0.
Went back to Seamans. Ran into Perla (rm 10) again. Session with her 2 weeks ago was good, but CBJ and a little rushed. She said her roommate was at the beach, so I said lets go to the room for some kisses and massage and a siesta. We lay naked snuggling, but in spite of the a/c, it was a bit hot and sticky. She started lightly kissing all over my body. She liked that I got very hard and so perhaps sex was on the menu, not just cuddling. I started gentle DATY, very slow, but building. She was disappointed that my erection had softened during the DATY, but I directed her to just repeat what had worked in the first place (kisses, caresses, stroking). She went for a condom for CBJ. I asked for BBBJ (sin condon), she said no. I was tired after a long day and wasn't arguing. Excellent CBJ and then amazing covered handjob and ball stroking - I use Durex Avanti condoms which allow much more stimulation than standard latex condoms. Rolled into missionary. Very tight. 22 years old. tall. black, dominicana, long straight hair, cute, small breasts, no children. All of a sudden, my third climax of the afternoon. A first for me since I started mongering 11 months ago. 1 hour. Left $60, a marc antony cd.
She said she needed a CD case like I had, so I went out to the car and got her an empty case that I had bought for $2 on sale as a possible chica gift. Ran into 2 other Dominicanas and chatted briefly.
Spent the last 45 minutes in the bar, talking with Perla and drinking two Presidente beers to celebrate my 3 nice orgasms. Perla told me that she didn't like to see the other chicas making a move on me - I should be just for her. This seems to happen with most girls after 2 sessions with no othe girl in between! We played with the idea - she will be around for about 6 weeks more.
I might have preferred a nap to a beer, but I was still a bit hot and sticky for serious cuddling... perhaps next week with Lina and Diana.
-zing
Zing,
Great report- thanks for the heads up.
I hope to add to the data base very soon.
[QUOTE=Mel365]Zing,
Great report- thanks for the heads up.
I hope to add to the data base very soon.[/QUOTE]
a couple of other details from sunday.
seamans is now majority dominicanas, with colombianas in the minority.
and carolina has 3 or 4 new black girls who seem to be dominicanas, although
i could be wrong.
my guess is that since aug-sep-oct is the quietest tourism time of the year, they are having trouble recruiting enough girls from colombia.
-zing
p.s. the dominicanas can be quite cute and fun in the room.
I have a question to ask, do any of you guys know where to rent a room thats cheap (less than $100) to stay while in St. Martin?
Hello,
I am requesting driving directions to the brothels (Seamans, etc). I will be coming from Simpson Bay. From reading the other posts here, it seems I need to go down the main road that goes by Grand Marche, etc.. But I can't seem to find it from there.
Please advise.
The directions and a map are in reports of distinction.
The cheapest place to stay which is a little ride is Captain Olivers in Oyster Pond.
Mel 365
Found on Google Videos:
[url]http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1409383357502112577&q=sxm+driving&hl=en[/url]
On the video:
Seaman's - turn left into the wire gate at 27:19
Defiance - turn right under yellow arch at 29:23
Sunset Retreat - turn uphill right at 31:40
Casa Blanca - right turn at 32:49
"conventional" text directions have been posted numerous times already.
I found Seamans Club this afternoon. This was my first visit to one of these places, ever. As I walked in a couple of girls grabbed my penis. I walked in and got a beer. Within a few minutes a girl was by my side, trying to .. seduce me. I remember reading about the girls in Seamans getting "rewards" if they order the wine. I asked if she wanted a drink, she asked for the wine. I saw the blue ticket they gave her. I laughed inside. She had the hottest body in the place so I dealt with it.
She said she was Colombian. Had big fake breasts. We went back in the room and we negotiated a price for a CBJ that I thought was a little high, but it was my first time so I didn't say anything.
Questions: 1. How do you say "Next!"? I wanted to say that when she told me she wanted wine, since I knew it was a reward for her if she got it. I was afraid of upsetting her and ending up murdered. And 2. How do you negotiate a price? What are the proper rates for a CBJ?
Three cruise ships in port, a lot more people at carolina and seamans, but very quiet at Defiance and Casa Blanca.
Carolina: Third time with Estafania (rm 14, Louisa's old rm!) - getting more yummy each time. DATY this time, tasty.
Defiance: Alexandra from Cartagena, rm 211. leaves in 2 weeks. Many visits to this girl. Very sexy. A bit older. Very nice to me. Samantha from cartagena is gone, but there are a few new girls.
Casa Blanca: called Nancy (rm 1) on the cellphone and she is still there. Another excellent session, but YMMV as I think she is really into me now (although our first session was very good also). She was a little miffed that was in Casa Blanca over the weekend and did not call her. She said that if she is not in the bar, just ask Ramona the bartender about her - if ishe is not busy, I can just pay the $45 and go direct to her room (a surprise for her).
Got her tel number in Santo Domingo in case I ever visit. Nancy says the construction project at Casa Blanca is building rooms for a lot more girls from Santo Domingo (they already have 40), plus a laundry and a beauty salon.
Still trying to organize a chica siesta with one or two chicas (they do share rooms, so I thought this might be easier). Nothing was easy. From 11am to 6pm is a long afternoon, especially if you visit 3 or 4 chicas in that time. I could really use a rest!
Thought I had something possible lined up at Carolina at 4pm, but by 4:15pm she hadn't showed up in the bar, so I went to Seamans. At the bar, I talked to 3 Colombianas: Paulina, Carolina and Andrea. Carolina was the best looking, but Paulina was the most fun! Paulina is big for a Colombiana, more like the size of a typical St Maarten girl, although Paulina is white. Implants. Strawberry blond hair. So I tried to sign her up for my siesta. Her room was busy, so we went to another girl's room, which we are not going to be able to keep for 1.5 hours. After a nice, but regular session of 25 minutes, we exited the borrowed room - she had ignored my request for a massage and siesta (probably did not believe it).
This is where I went out of the box. As we went past her actual room (#2) I said how about using your room for a real siesta now. So she opened the room and we sat down. But she is worried about security so I just pulled out another $40 and said - now we are legal. Nice massages, kisses, caresses, cuddles. I almost fell asleep and I think she did fall asleep. Luckily, I had my cellphone set to alarm when I had to leave! Mostly I focused on having a nice chat, getting closer to her, setting up for next time.
Paulina is from Medellin. I asked her about Mangos and Fase Dos. She was amazed that I knew about them. She says the women in Medellin are incredibly good looking (in her opinion), especially the dancers at Mangos disco, but even just ordinary girls at Centro Commercial shopping mall. It turns out she used to work at Fase Dos which is a strip club/brothel. She was the biggest girl there (Paisas are usually quite small), so they called her Paulina Grande. A typical story: 3 year old son, father split. This is her first trip to St Maarten, first trip out of Colombia. She had no idea that this is the dead time of year (for tourism), but she has noticed that the local guys in the bar are very short of cash for taking girls.
I started out with a hard core pro first session with Paulina and ended the second session with a very mellow girl. It was a good experiment and use of $40 extra: do something unexpected and then really appreciate her. I told her I had 4 girls today at different places and she said that was amazing, and cool. She suggested I try the same girl 4 times in one afternoon, for a change (her of course).
-zing
Muy suave. Nap time what a great idea. Did you get milk and cookies?
[QUOTE=Sxmperson101]I found Seamans Club this afternoon. This was my first visit to one of these places, ever. As I walked in a couple of girls grabbed my penis. I walked in and got a beer. Within a few minutes a girl was by my side, trying to .. seduce me. I remember reading about the girls in Seamans getting "rewards" if they order the wine. I asked if she wanted a drink, she asked for the wine. I saw the blue ticket they gave her. I laughed inside. She had the hottest body in the place so I dealt with it.
She said she was Colombian. Had big fake breasts. We went back in the room and we negotiated a price for a CBJ that I thought was a little high, but it was my first time so I didn't say anything.
Questions: 1. How do you say "Next!"? I wanted to say that when she told me she wanted wine, since I knew it was a reward for her if she got it. I was afraid of upsetting her and ending up murdered. And 2. How do you negotiate a price? What are the proper rates for a CBJ?[/QUOTE]
$40 is the std price for a 20-30 miinute visit to the room with a girl. this should include at least cbj and cfs, but may also include BBBJ if you ask and lots more, same price. There is no std price for just a BJ (covered is asummed 90% of the time). However, this is the slowest time of the year, so just offer $20 for "chupa solo" (blowjob only) if that is what you want.
You cannot easily hurt these girls feelings.
To say no, there are 2 techniques. She will ask you "fucky fucky", just say "no gracias". After 1, 2 or 3 tries, she will always move on. Or just say "el bano" and get up and go to the bathroom. When you come back, sit with another girl!
If you want to buy her a $2 drink, offer "biber cerverza?" (bee bear sir bay sa) which means would you like to drink a beer. If she says "vino" which is $5 (pronounced bee no), you can just say "no gracias" and move away.
good luck. try Carolina too, which is just around the corner, down arch road to the next street, turn left, second bldg, unmarked doorway in the middle. 11am to late, dead from 430 to 730pm.
-zing
Best technique I have found to say no to a girl that doesn't take no for answer is:
"Estoy esparando una otra chica"
It doesn't mater if it si true or not. It will not hurt the feelings of the girl and she will instantly leave. This is a golden rule amongst the chicas: "Don't take the regular customer of another chica".
Having said this, I always pay a drink to a girl that asks for it, even if I don't want to go with her. It allows me to socialize, know some more chicas and spend a nice evening in a relaxed atmosphere. It's always better than hanging alone at the bar.
Zing...
Awesome reports dude!
I think one of the best things about this board, as opposed to a few others, is that it is geared more towards enhancing the experience rather than just how to get it cheaper. Other boards it's more like "I worked her down to $20 and rammed her ass 6 ways". Not here, however.
Thanks to you, Routard, Ford and many others we can all learn about the Fine Art of Mongering. Treating the girls as they really are...nice sweet young women that have feelings and desires. It makes for a much richer experience.
I'm in my off season for travel right now....and it's driving me nucking futs! (I don't play in the US) Might be able to squeeze a Curacao trip in the next few weeks I hope. If not, I am in time out for another month or so.
This season I hope to take the hobby to new levels...more attention to the experience and how it can be expanded.
I like the siesta concept. I did that one time quite a while ago with a girl at Defiance. (don't remember who) Made a date to take her to Orient Beach on Sunday afternoon. She told me to just knock on her door anytime after 10AM. I did and she was still asleep. She let me in and we cuddled and napped for a couple hours. I woke her up by DATY...we played for a while and hit the beach. It was great! I never thought of actually pursuing a siesta ...but I will keep it in mind. I prefer the "off times" at the houses anyhow.
Might be fun to get a couple cool mongers together, rent a multi-bedroom villa for a couple nights, grab a few chicas for TLNs and have a night out on the town.
Another idea is to take a TLN to the swing club 240.
I am also thinking of timing at least one trip next season for the full moon party at Friars...possibly taking a TLN or maybe checking out the amateur action.
I sure hope we can meet up on one of our trips.
pogo
[QUOTE=Pogostick]Zing...
I think one of the best things about this board, as opposed to a few others, is that it is geared more towards enhancing the experience rather than just how to get it cheaper. Other boards it's more like "I worked her down to $20 and rammed her ass 6 ways". Not here, however.
Thanks to you, Routard, Ford and many others we can all learn about the Fine Art of Mongering. Treating the girls as they really are...nice sweet young women that have feelings and desires. It makes for a much richer experience.
pogo[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the kind words, but I have only been doing this for less than a year and learned most of my approach from reading reports by Routard, Ford, yourself, and many others on ISG. I will post my first year summary at the end of September, which you may find entertaining (my most embarassing 10 moments!).
-zing
[QUOTE=Zing23]Thanks for the kind words, but I have only been doing this for less than a year and learned most of my approach from reading reports by Routard, Ford, yourself, and many others on ISG. I will post my first year summary at the end of September, which you may find entertaining (my most embarassing 10 moments!).
-zing[/QUOTE]
That's what this board is for...to share our experiences and we all learn from each other. I know that my mongering has been a lot more fun since I found this board.
I look forward to the summery! It should be interesting. By the way...a few weeks ago I found some of your first posts on the newbie boards. You learn fast!
You have been lucky to be able to visit more often than most of us and have used that time to get to know the girls on a much more personal level. Some of the insights that you have related about their daily lives, relationships and attitudes are priceless.
pogo
Hello
I was curious how scared I should be of STDs from brothels in St. Maarten? Meaning, AIDS, Herpes, etc. It seems after all the men they service, they most likely will have Herpes. And if they are rubbing their wet vagina on the penis, it can be transferred.
Just curious.
[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S SUGGESTION[/u]:[/b] [blue]This is interesting, but you might consider re-posting it under the [u]Safe Sex[/u] topic in the Special Interests section of the Forum where it will benefit the Forum Members who are specifically looking for this type of information. [i]Thanks![/i][/blue][/size]
[QUOTE=Sxmperson101]I was curious how scared I should be of STDs from brothels in St. Maarten? Meaning, AIDS, Herpes, etc. It seems after all the men they service, they most likely will have Herpes. And if they are rubbing their wet vagina on the penis, it can be transferred. [/QUOTE]
Unlike streetwalkers or escorts in the USA, brothel workers in St Maarten get checked every week for STD. And if they test positive, they cannot work.
They may be less risky than the new girlfriend that you met in a bar last week.
That doesn't mean the risk is zero of course. but rubbing wet vagina on bare penis is actually pretty rare in st maarten clubs, although i admit it has happened to me. I usually take a thorough shower in the girls bathroom after each session, which reduces the risk substantially (ducha, por favor).
-zing
[QUOTE=Sxmperson101]Hello
I was curious how scared I should be of STDs from brothels in St. Maarten? Meaning, AIDS, Herpes, etc. It seems after all the men they service, they most likely will have Herpes. And if they are rubbing their wet vagina on the penis, it can be transferred.
Just curious.
[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S SUGGESTION[/u]:[/b] [blue]This is interesting, but you might consider re-posting it under the [u]Safe Sex[/u] topic in the Special Interests section of the Forum where it will benefit the Forum Members who are specifically looking for this type of information. [i]Thanks![/i][/blue][/size][/QUOTE]
At one time I found an article written by a Doctor on Curacao whose specialty was communicable disease and performed the weekly exams at Campo. In his 8 or so years of doing this he found that the cases of any STDs were next to zero at Campo, but otherwise quite high in Curacao's general population.
The girls are well trained in safe sex, often with various educational posters and charts on the walls of the rooms. They are also given regular doses of broad spectrum antibiotics which keeps down minor communicables like Herpes and Thrush.
I have enjoyed many fine meals at the "Y" over the years and have never left with anything but a smile. You are probably safer in the legal houses on the Dutch Islands than you are dating at home.
Relax and enjoy!
pogo
Hi,
I will be heading to sxm in a few weeks and am looking for a hotel near the local attractions.
Holland house was ok but it had no parking so i did not go back there.
The following time I stayed at great bay hotel-good but the rooms smelled
moldy, I just called the hotel and spoke to the manager. He said they are fixing the problem (GREAT!) but they will be closed for September to fix it. Divi Little Bay and Belaire beach club were suggested by the hotel. Is anyone familiar with these two hotels and how far are they from Carolina etc? Any other close hotels that have parking?
Thanks,
Mel365
[QUOTE=Pogostick]The girls are well trained in safe sex, often with various educational posters and charts on the walls of the rooms. They are also given regular doses of broad spectrum antibiotics which keeps down minor communicables like Herpes and Thrush.[/QUOTE]Just a quick note that Herpes is due to a virus (HSV-1/2 [primarily 2]) and antibiotics have no effect on viruses. Also, Thrush is caused by Candida albicans and can actually be promoted by over-use of antibiotics (since the antibiotics kill the normal flora of the mouth, giving Candida a chance to grow).
The antibiotics would be good for stuff like Gonorrhea, UTIs & Syphilis -- which, are obviously much worse than Herpes or Thrush.
It's good to hear though that they are so clean. Makes me feel more comfortable.
I love foreplay, and foreplay in my previous relationship was entirely one sided (me doing all the work.) I miss laying there and having a girl kiss on me, rub, and caress. Is this possible with this kind of activity? How would one ask for this? Would I just lay down and ask for them to kiss and rub?
[QUOTE=Mel365]Divi Little Bay and Belaire beach club were suggested by the hotel. Is anyone familiar with these two hotels and how far are they from Carolina etc? Any other close hotels that have parking?
Mel365[/QUOTE]
divi little bay is just next to great bay hotel, on the point.
-zing
[QUOTE=Sxmperson101]I love foreplay, and foreplay in my previous relationship was entirely one sided (me doing all the work.) I miss laying there and having a girl kiss on me, rub, and caress. Is this possible with this kind of activity? How would one ask for this? Would I just lay down and ask for them to kiss and rub?[/QUOTE]
see the chica spanish guide in the reports of distinction.
muchos besos por favor.
also massage (ma-sag-eh) is usually 80% foreplay!
Wow. i usually escape the chicas for some food or shopping, but this time I spent a solid 7 hours in clubs and bedrooms. so i will just give you a memory dump:
started the minute I arrived in st maarten in the morning. group of men, french or perhaps spanish or porteguese, one woman in a demure but sexy summer dress. recognized her face and body from some club - she smiled, i smiled and waved. she waved back. a man joined their group and said "hola" to her, so she is latina, not french. greated a man who travelled with me, and loaded a car with stuff for a picnic. I thought she was gloria from seamans (thinking she looked better dressed as a regular woman and not a puta), but later saw gloria and realized it was not her. a mystery - it has bugged me all night. who was that?
at 1145am i pulled into casa blanca parking lot. the door is open and a guy is cleaning up, but they are not really open. no other cars. call nancy (rm 1) on her cell phone because she said to call her at 11 or 12 am next time. nancy is asleep, because the club was open until 6am sat "night". waited 15 minutes, then went inside, got a coke, and watched the owner remove the $1 bills from the jukebox. nancy shows up, sleepy but cute. affectionate reunion, ask her if she can get away to go to the beach and lunch. she says it would be very expensive. $300 for her to leave Casa Blanca - the girls are theoretically on duty 24 hours a day (unlike other clubs).
$45 to ramona the bartender, off to nancy's room, kick out jessica her roommate. incredible session. nancy has knots in all her leg muscles from toes to thighs, from high heels and pole dancing. gave her a thorough massage and she melts. we agreed that a week vacation together at casa de campo resort in d.r. would be heaven. she has been there once for 4 days, me once for 4 hours.
lunch in the casa blanca restaurant. pretty good hamburger and nancy's shrimp plate (camarones) was excellent.
carolina
6 guys, 2 girls. talked to a new girl (there are a bunch). when she asked for "fucky fucky" i used routard's line, "estoy esparando otra chica" which means 'i am waiting for another chica'. she left immediately and started on the guy next to me!
went into the restaurant, saw beatriz (now in rm 12). started staring into her eyes. she is through with her fish lunch (or is it breakfast?). left half for her roommate. gave her $6 for the bar to let her know that I wasn't worried about time. off to her new room. this girl is very romantic, totally gfe. lost track of time. asked her about a movie 'Rosario Tijeras' that Routard mentioned to me (a beautiful working girl in medellin becomes a hit woman). she had seen it. i am downloading the dvd from the internet using bittorrent, because you cannot buy it on amazon.
in the room about 50 minutes I think. $50. she asked me if I had english lessons on cd. I had downloaded an english for spanish class in MP3 format. gave a copy to a couple of chicas who had mp3 capability. .. girls are now practicing their english on me ... the word spreads. gave beatriz a copy and a small teddy bear as a regalo.
Ran into lina and diana in the hallway. they are saying good bye to the cute black colombiana who always wears white. i never did get her name, but she asked me last week if she could buy a copy of the news from colombia off the internet. brought it to her the next time and gave it to her while she was working on a guy at the bar and i was just getting ready to go to the room with estefania. how much? she asked. nothing, it is a gift.
out to the bar, chatted with another new chica i think - memories are getting blurry. ciao to beatriz.
seamans
2 minutes from carolina. looking for paulina for my siesta. saw perla (rm 10). she looks good! forgot about paulina and the siesta. no self control.
perla wasn't happy that i went with paulina last time. gave her an inexpensive ring as a gift, session was as good as last time. a few rules: covered bj, did not want to do doggy until i said "chica dificul" and then she did for a couple of minutes. i think it is because she is very tight (no babies) and perhaps the sex is not that comfortable. last time we were together, this was a big advantage, as i reached a third climax for the day. didn't happen today. long session,
back to the bar, still 1 hour left for my siesta. perla drifts off to see the boss or something. i start chatting to beautiful new face seated across the table from me. joanna maria, 29, from a small town in the mountains near bogota. long black hair. perfect facial features. large natural breasts. rm 15.
joanna has only been in sxm for 4 days. says 5 new chicas arrived the same day as her. tell her i am tired and need a rest. i don't know if she didn't notice that i just came back from the room with perla or she is just into solid sales work, but she suggested we go to her room for a massage and rest.
since i am still on the siesta quest and perla is gone, naturally i said yes. turns out she has a few more pounds than is considered perfect, even in colombia. but it all feels wonderful.
i collapse face down on the bed, naked. she starts a very good massage, i am getting quite relaxed, then when i am covered in oil, she rubs her entire body up and down my back. a teta and chocha massage. little zinger starts to get hard, but in a bent position. poca problema i say and roll slowly over. i am still almost totally passive, not asking for anything. she massages my front nicely, then my privates. then moves in for a BBBJ. then climbs into 69. i finally respond with tongue and digits. after a long 69 she slips on a condom - i don't have the energy to go find one of my durex avantis. reverse cowboy to start, cowboy. finally i am awake for doggy and missionary. the room is nicely airconditioned but she is dripping sweat. no orgasm, but i am in love anyway. in the shower together, she washes me completely with soap, both sides. i want to go back to the bed, but there is no energy left. she plans to go shopping the next day for towels, etc. (we shared her one towel). i give her a rosana cd anyway so she will have something to play when she gets a stereo. $40.
back in the bar, holding her hand. try to talk, but music is too loud. gloria at the bar watches me and says: aha, you have a new enamorada. i ask joanna when she is free to go to the beach - she tells me, but i am getting fuzzy now and don't remember the answer. 4pm i think?
joanna maria gets cellphone call. it is her friend cara, who works at defiance, but is leaving for colombia tomorrow. joanna needs to go over there to buy her friend's stereo. i agree to give joanna and her roommmate andrea a lift to defiance, where there is a happy hour party going on. perla is dancing in the middle of the bar to get my attention. she comes over. I look at my cellphone, which has a 610pm alarm. i have one minute left. the alarm goes off. kiss perla on the cheek and off to defiance.
at defiance the parking lot is completely packed. there are people everywhere. I drop the girls and park outside on the street. only have 5 minutes to spare, don't want to get trapped. happy hour. girls in red baseball caps, hot pants, really cute. the huge lounge is full with people - at least 100. meet cara, joanna's friend. blond, have never seen her before. in fact, there are many chicas here that i have never seen in the afternoon. take the 3 girls to the bar for a drink. no tiempo. leave some money for the drinks. kisses on cheeks (one cheek only for latinas, although they accept 2 cheeks as that is the european fashion). ciao. joanna: call me. spot alexandra from cartagena across the bar. kiss her on the cheek. no tiempo, must go. out to the car, day is over.
-zing
according to [url=http://www.thedailyherald.com/news/daily/j094/booi094.html]this report[/url] in the Daily Herald paper from st maarten, DAE is not selling any tickets for St maarten to Curucao after sept 7. they are threatening to shut down the flights, after a dispute with the government. another airline, Insel will start running a jet flight on the route a few days a week, but not daily. so i guess the chicas will just have to do a few extra guys and buy tickets on Insel (through curucao is the only convenient way to get back to colombia).
-zing
I went by Seamans early in the afternoon on Monday. There were only a couple of other guys there, and the place was full of chicas. I wasn't sure what I'm supposed to do. Do you walk around and just look at them all and thten pick one?
I went to the bar and got a beer, and a chica came up to me. Her name is Lucero, rm 13. She had a perfect body, enhanced breasts, face was nice. I had her before (on my first visit) but she didn't recognize me. I didn't offer her a drink or anything, and told her exactly what I wanted, got a price, and we went to her room.
It was money well spent. I got a nice back massage with oil, a front massage, and then a CBJ. (That's what I asked for - no sex.) It was more sensual than my last girlfriend ever was.
Question: During the massage, when I was on my back the chica got on me and was rubbing her vagina on my ass, as if to try to give herself some pleasure (obviously it didn't do anything for me). Is it bad if I just want a CBJ? Would they prefer sex so that they get some pleasure out of it too?
Questioin: What do you do about picking a girl? Do you just walk around and look at all of them? And then sit with the one you want?
[QUOTE=Sxmperson101]
Question: During the massage, when I was on my back the chica got on me and was rubbing her vagina on my ass, as if to try to give herself some pleasure (obviously it didn't do anything for me). Is it bad if I just want a CBJ? Would they prefer sex so that they get some pleasure out of it too?
Questioin: What do you do about picking a girl? Do you just walk around and look at all of them? And then sit with the one you want?[/QUOTE]
First of all, it is what you want that matters most. As long as you are not dirty, smelly, rough, or rude, and you always pay cheerfully, you will rank as good client.
I always invest a lot of time in making the chica feel good (massage, light kisses and caresses, oral sex if they don't object). They don't usually object to the increased pleasure (although some don't like it because they don't want to get turned on or involved- I can respect that, but I don't repeat with those girls). But you don't have to do this if you don't want to. I like the feeling of it.
They don't prefer to have sex, but they worry whether you are satisfied or not. I am amazed at how high their sense of customer service quality is. Of course, a satisfied customer tells other guys and repeats, so it makes sense. So they do things to you that they have learned over time that other men like - sometimes you like the things and sometimes you don't. i have learned to go with the flow and experience what they try. sometimes it is something new that i can really enjoy.
As far as picking a girl, once you learn to nicely say "no", it is like picking up a girl in a bar. You go up to anyone that looks interesting (sometimes I just start randomly, because looks are not a good indicator of service) and start talking. Even in English if that is all you have, but try Hola and Como esta?
Talk to 3 or 4 before you pick one, or talk to a pair together - this is good because it allows you to talk longer without getting nailed for a session.
When you find one you like, start asking if she will do what you want. If none appeal to you, just say adios and go to Carolina or Defiance!
-zing
seamans is now back to majority colombianas, with minority dominicanas.
marisol - seamans rm 11. republica dominica. been kidding around with her for 4 weeks, talking and giving her fruit flavored condoms to make her work more fun. finally took her to a room. brown skin, long curly black hair with red highlights (the only unnatural part of her body), medium breasts (nice), a bit of belly (typical latina problem: i tried to convince her to switch from beer to diet coke). good kissing, caresses, cbj, cfs. has 3 cds that i gave her, but no stereo in her room. a good experience.
joanna maria - seamans rm, 15: the girl i went to see. my new love from last time. definitely has too many pounds. and i didn't like the heavy eye shadow that she had on today. but in the room, wow! last time she gave me a massage because I was completely bushed, then got me aroused and fucked my brains out. this time I gave her a massage, then daty. digits in both holes. bbbj, balls, then ar (look it up in the abbreviations, first colombiana to do that with me). i think she would have kept going for an even longer session, but she needed to clear the room for her roommate. i am not the only one who has these hot experiences - the roommate andrea told me that joanna is muy caliente and she has seen her in action. recommended in spite of the extra pounds and the bad makeup!
defiance update: joanna maria told me that her friend cara had been at defiance for 8 months (same as viviana at carolina and now lina/diana at carolina). so the 3 month visa rule is not ironclad. she also told me that one girl has been at defiance for 2 years (perhaps she has st maarten rights through marriage)!
nancy - casa blanca rm 1. had lunch with her and some other chicas in the restaurant. the fish plate is good. she is on her period, bad cramps, so got a 30 minute bbbj. recommended.
casa blanca is building a lot of new stuff, including a swimming pool for girls and guys! sounds like they are aiming for a german FKK club (read the reports under Europe; i am planning a visit in the fall to this mongering destination that competes with rio as the best).
paulina and carolina - seamans (rm 2 and rm 4). fiesta/siesta with two girls from colombia. asked for 90 minutes but hey, they are latinas, they were late getting started and carolina kept getting cellphone calls, but when they finally turned off the cellphone it was great. finally experienced one of my porn movie fantasies: bj from one girl while the other sits on my face for daty, then they reversed for cfs and daty. all done to the music of romanza by andrea bocelli. it was carolina's birthday (26) so i gave her a tiny stuffed teddy bear and a long massage. shorter massage for paulina, then she gave me a massage. finally i turned the music down and turned off all the lights, and we had our siesta together.
carolina is beautiful, slim, morena (darkish skin) and small with natural breasts, paulina is large and blanca (white skin, light colored hair) with implants (they said i was getting the total experience). after the massages they offered to be my duo-wives and allow me to have girlfriends too, all in an apartment in the nice Poblada neighborhood of Medellin... very playful, really worked to please me. paulina asked for $100 each, i offered $60, we settled on $75. recommended.
-zing
p.s. paulina told me that she is free to go to the beach at 4pm. she hasn't seen any of the beaches yet, just the view outside seamans, which is not very beautiful!
[QUOTE=Zing23]Casa blanca is building a lot of new stuff, including a swimming pool for girls and guys! sounds like they are aiming for a german FKK club.[/QUOTE]
Just a thought:
First they should get a security guard/guards to watch over their parking lot. If incidents like these
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Keep happening in the general vicinity of the club, I won't be visiting that place very often no matter how nice the swimming pool is (at least not after sunset.) If they really indend to expand and upgrade to FKK level, they need to get the security part right.
Casa Blanca gives me the creeps late at night.
I only go there at nightn with a Couple of Big guys.
During the day it seems fine.
Zing,
I love hispanic girls. From Seaman's and Carolina's, which are the absolutely more gorgeous girls? It sounds like Carolina from Seaman's is nice. If you go in to the club, do you just ask the bartender for the girl? Or ask the other girls?
[QUOTE=Sxmperson101]Zing, I love hispanic girls. From Seaman's and Carolina's, which are the absolutely more gorgeous girls? It sounds like Carolina from Seaman's is nice. If you go in to the club, do you just ask the bartender for the girl? Or ask the other girls?[/QUOTE]
"most gorgeous" is a matter of personal preference. I think that Diana in rm 11 at Carolina is the most beautiful at the moment, but she is blond!
if you want a specific girl, you can ask the bartender, and they will usually send another girl to get the one you want. or you ask any other girl. "chica carolina, por favor?". sometimes i tip the girl who does me a favor $5.
at seamans, if it is early in the day, you can just go back and knock on her door. if she is busy, she will ignore your knock or yell out "occupado". so just knock once firmly and say "ola". if the security guy stops you, tell him you are looking for carolina (or whoever).
at carolina bar, there are a lot of very cute hispanic looking girls. however, i have been to the room with a couple of them and it was disappointing. i think the very young, very pretty ones get the men too easily. i recommend stephanie in rm 14. thin, young, hispanic (long dark hair, etc) but her face has a touch of east indian influence in it. very pretty, but totally GFE. slightly taller than other girls.
at carolina, you use the same methods to find the girl. however, if you go into the back by yourself, remember that this is against the rules and you haven't paid the $3 to the bar (pay it later). if you get stopped, just ask the person for the girl you want!
-zing
[QUOTE=Lucky Strike]Just a thought:
First they should get a security guard/guards to watch over their parking lot. If incidents like these
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Keep happening in the general vicinity of the club, I won't be visiting that place very often no matter how nice the swimming pool is (at least not after sunset.) If they really indend to expand and upgrade to FKK level, they need to get the security part right.[/QUOTE]
I also worry about Casa Blanca at night (although I never go there in the night, so it is a theoretical problem). But from these newspaper accounts, it is quite possible, even likely, that one of these events happened at Sunset Retreat (where the parking lot is across the street) and the other on the road between the two clubs, not on the Casa Blanca property. You can't be sure from the details in the articles.
In either case, be careful guys.
-zing
[QUOTE=Zing23]I also worry about Casa Blanca at night (although I never go there in the night, so it is a theoretical problem). But from these newspaper accounts, it is quite possible, even likely, that one of these events happened at Sunset Retreat (where the parking lot is across the street) and the other on the road between the two clubs, not on the Casa Blanca property. You can't be sure from the details in the articles.
In either case, be careful guys.
-zing[/QUOTE]
I have gone to Casa Blanca in the early evening around 8 several times. Often there is a security guard in uniform directing parking. If not I will either park right near the entry or leave. I won't park if I can't get close.
I have never tried Sunset Retreat. It is only open at night and it kind of spooks me. Might try it with a wingman sometime but not alone. I have heard some good things about it.
Fortunately, like Zing, I am an early mongerer prefering afternoons.
pogo
today i went to carolina to see the girls sign in at 11am. didn't see them all, but there are a lot of new girls, so please post reports you lurkers! ran into beatriz (rm 12), a favorite, talked, bought her a juice, she asked if i wanted her or another girl (since last time i went with someone else also). went to her room. said "excuse me" to her roommate and beatriz asked if i would like them both. as i had a fun experience last time with 2 girls, i said yes.
roommate luna is tall, slim, small breasts, fit, long dark hair, pretty, hispanic looking, older than 22 (how much?). great kisser, great bbbj by both girls, beatriz asked me who i wanted to have sex with and i said her, so we started. then she asked if i wanted to switch, so i did. luna is quite tight, sexy, nice. great climax. good cuddling and kissing afterwards.
gave each girl $40 after about 40 minutes. i discovered that the fee you pay the bar for the room is actually for the girl in the room. beatriz asked me to give luna an extra $6 for the bar, so i paid a bar fine for both girls, in the same room!
went for lunch, then to seamans. bought marisol a drink ($5!) but went to the bathroom and returned to another area of the bar. talked to andrea, a cute colombiana with curly hair, roommate of joanna maria, braces. gave her $5 for lunch. nice chat.
then paulina and carolina put their arms around me from the back. see last report. seduced me again! off to room 2. for my second double girl session of the day. long. massages. nap. i was very pleased. gave them what i had in my pocket, which was $70 each. made an appt to take them to the beach and shopping in phillipsburg at 4pm (they are free from 4pm to 7pm).
told them to dress in respectable clothes! left at 3pm, came back at 4pm and picked them both up. off to the boardwalk, very quiet, no cruise ships today, few tourists, but most stores are still open. we walked barefoot in the surf down the beachfront, they said cartagena has nothing this pretty (and this is not really pretty by caribbean standards). returned to center of the boardwalk, went into a fancy perfume store.
then it gets interesting. while paulina and carolina are testing perfumes, i notice 3 other chicas in the store: beatriz and luna and a 3rd girl from carolina. so i have both of my duplas in the store at the same time.... go over and give them a kiss on the cheek. the 3rd girl says "aha, santa claus", but i didn't buy them anything. i suppose i will hear about this next time i am at carolina.
had a great day.
-zing
[QUOTE=Zing23]Normally the chicas are in St Maarten with a 3 month visa, then must return home. Sometimes there are exceptions (eg, Viviana who was at Carolina for 8 months). The 3 month limit means that when you read about a great chica here, she may be gone by the time you arrive in SXM.
This week Diana (rm 11) at Carolina told me that she is going to be in St Maarten until December, 2006! She has already been here 2 months and I have reported on her before, as has Jan Chris. This is a very beautiful strawberry blond from Colombia, good service, very nice person, gorgeous face and body to die for, small amount of English. And she charges the same $40 as all the other chicas!
-zing
p.s. was there yesterday and Diana can be quite busy. ask at the bar.[/QUOTE]I was looking for the pics of Diana. I am new too this site please help and be pactiant.
[QUOTE=Rsdrsd]I was looking for the pics of Diana. I am new too this site please help and be pactiant.[/QUOTE]
welcome newcomer. sorry, there are no pictures on this site of any of the current girls in st maarten.
-zing
[QUOTE=Zing23]casa blanca is building a lot of new stuff, including a swimming pool for girls and guys! sounds like they are aiming for a german FKK club[/QUOTE]
I just came back from a week in German FKK. A swimmingpool alone will not make from Casa Blanca a FKK. But I'm ready to help and be their technical adviser, free of charge of course.
Went to Seaman's again today. I asked for Carolina. I was told she was in room 4. I was about to go back and try to find her, but Lucero came up to me again. I've had pleasant experiences with her before, so I went ahead and went with her.
Had a really, really great masage, CBJ, CFS multiple positions, and another really good massage. Well worth it. I gave her a tip it was so nice.
I still need to try to find Carolina @ Seaman's, because of how Zing described her.
[QUOTE=Sxmperson101]Went to Seaman's again today. I asked for Carolina. I was told she was in room 4. I was about to go back and try to find her, but Lucero came up to me again. I've had pleasant experiences with her before, so I went ahead and went with her.
Had a really, really great masage, CBJ, CFS multiple positions, and another really good massage. Well worth it. I gave her a tip it was so nice.
I still need to try to find Carolina @ Seaman's, because of how Zing described her.[/QUOTE]
Nothing wrong with going with the one you know makes you feel good. From December last year to July 2006 I only went with one girl at a time at Seamans - average 8 weeks with each one. I found that the experience got deeper and deeper over time when you have the right chica (with others it gets more perfunctory and boring over time, just like with a real girl friend).
I met Lucero last time I was at Seamans - very attractive and good eyes and smile. I see she finally got you into CFS.
when paulina and carolina and i went walking the beach and shopping phillipsburg, carolina was dressed in baseball cap with pony tail, tight t-shirt and jeans - so cute and adorable i wanted to take her home with me.
-zing
[QUOTE=Zing23]welcome newcomer. sorry, there are no pictures on this site of any of the current girls in st maarten.
-zing[/QUOTE]The Diana that I was thinking of has a scare on her belly button. Is this the same girl? If it is, I,m getting on a plane. I had a great time with her. She will give a deal for the whole week and it is worth it.
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when paulina and carolina and i went walking the beach and shopping phillipsburg, carolina was dressed in baseball cap with pony tail, tight t-shirt and jeans - so cute and adorable i wanted to take her home with me.
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Haha! I know exactly what you mean, chicas look much different once outside the club. Take care, you are entering the danger zone!
Routard
[QUOTE=Routard]Haha! I know exactly what you mean, chicas look much different once outside the club. Take care, you are entering the danger zone![/QUOTE]I am already well into the danger zone...
Sunday Sept 17 is Valentines Day in Colombia (according to the ISG Colombia threads) but I won't be able to visit any of my wonderful Colombianas on Sunday, so I started the celebrations early.
First Valentine: Carolina (rm 4) at Seamans. She and Paulina have given me two enjoyable long double sessions, but I decided I wanted to see Carolina alone in her room for some special Amor y Amistad attention. I gave her a small heart-shapped box of chocolates from Le Grand Marche plus a handwritten valentine note. She was quite surprised that I knew about Sunday, and happy. During a long DATY, she either came very close to climax or climaxed for a long time. At least that is what my two fingers concluded, as were clamped tight by her pussy. Afterwards, told me about her life in Medellin, showed pictures of her beautiful teenage daughter, told me that the daughter is her entire life (I hope the daughter doesn't disappoint!). Learned about their Seamans accounting card where the boss marks off the days when they have paid for their room - business has been so slow in September that she and Paulina have several days now where they are not earning the minimum necessary to pay expenses. Paulina called during our session to see if we left the bar without her by mistake (she was marketing to another guy at the time). I told her on the cellphone that we would see each other alone later. Carolina is recommended. Great kisser.
Talked to Lucero briefly again. She said she would be available for me whenever I was ready (not pushy, but sexy!). I felt her stomach and she has the tightest abs of any chica yet. I am looking forward to the encounter.
There are 2 new girls at Seamans who seem quite beautful from across the bar. One is the new roommate (companera) of Paulina in rm 2. Long dark hair, shapely, latina face. The other is taller, slimmer, excellent looking breasts, long curly black hair, beautiful latina face with high amerindian cheekbones. Didn't get a chance to talk to either, but would appreciate a report from other members.
Saw Joanna Maria at the bar, much better eye makeup today, sexy black cocktail dress that highlights her curves, don't think I had time to give Joanna her valentine, so will try to do that next time. Recommended for most uninhibited GFE.
Carolina Club:
Second Valentine: I went in looking for my amigas Estefania, Beatriz, Luna, Diana and Lina, but didn't see any of them. A new girl Nicola, jumped on the stool next to me and distracted me from my valentine quest. Off to the room for 30 minutes of fun. Natural breasts, plenty big enough. Another valentine note. Again, surprised and pleased. Her roommate is very good looking also and new. Ran into both of them on the road later when I was driving from Carolina back to Seamans. They were on the way to the Colombian restaurant at the corner. Nice friendly greating thru the car window.
Third Valentine: I saw Beatriz (rm 12) paying the bar $3 for a client, so I knew she would be gone for a while. Said hello and gave her a set of CDs with 14 English lessons. This was because her stereo would not play the MP3 version (with 30 lessons) that I gave her the week before and she REALLY wants to learn English. She glowed when she realized what was in the case and that I had made sure to give it to her even though she was busy working. Inside was a valentine card - which she would read when she opened the case later. Nice girl, incredible sessions.
Fourth Valentine: Estefania came up to me at the bar while I was still catching my breath from Nicola. Valentine card. She gave me a big hug (I guess no one else had realized the day, or had started to celebrate so early!). I tried to get her telephone number for next time, but her purse was stolen at a casino, with cellphone, $30, and her police permission form. She wanted to know if she would be in trouble without her form. I suggested she just smile, make her eyes real large and bat her eyelashes, and say "immigration" if any policeman asks (immigration has their passports until they leave). She got the idea and drew an angel halo above her head. I thought I could not possibly have time to enjoy Etefania before my appointment with Paulina, but after her sexy hugs and caresses, little Zinger popped to attention (milagro! a miracle!). Off to the room for a quickie, but a GFE quickie that included BBBJ, sex in several positions, and a massage afterwards. 305pm to 329pm, right on schedule. Rm. 14. As I came back into the bar, I saw Luna (the other half of my double with Beatriz) and got a smile - I really want to visit her next time (or the time after, next time is already mentally booked up - and I have to get to Nancy at Casa Blanca too).
Seamans Club:
Fifth Valentine: 331pm. Paulina is late. Carolina cuddles up and protects me from other girls (who I am eyeing...). Off to the room with Paulina, listening to some nice Ana Belen, dancing slowly cheek to check (she is tall). Valentine card (these are all handwritten: "Amor y Amistad, 2006 [in a heart], Zing") and box of chocolates. Hugs, kisses. Sex. Cuddles. Conversation. Lives in Medellin with her 3 year old son plus her mother, her grandmother (abuela), her two sisters (hermanas), and two nieces (sobrinas). All women except the nino. She says that she is the support of the entire family. I am invited for dinner if I am ever in Medellin (I wish!).
I tell Paulina that I am watching a Colombian movie from Medellin, Rosario Tejeuna. She knows it. We agree that the heroine (protaganista) is incredibly beautiful, and strong (she starts as a working girl and becomes a hit woman). Paulina says that there are actually women that beautiful in Medellin and Bogota. I should come to see for myself. She doesn't have a problem sharing me.
Paulina says my Spanish is very good, for a gringo! I ask Paulina if she wants to learn English. Yes, but it is very expensive in Colombia for English lessons. I tell her that I learned my Spanish mostly from listening to lessons over the last year, and I am only up to lesson 26 of 30. She sighs and says it would be very nice to be able to understand and speak more English. So I give her an MP3 CD with 30 English lessons - she is absolutely blown away and puts it on the stereo and starts lesson one while we are showering! She says that it will be great for her young son as well.
Sixth Valentine: last time I had given Carolina an inexpensive boombox for her room, but the CD portion would not work. So I took it back to the store, where it worked fine. Must be the electricity in her room, or something. So I got her a different one, since I cannot return the first. Now I have an extra stereo in my car. I ask Paulina for help, as I don't have much time left. We get the stereo, I explain the problems, I ask her to give it to Marisol in rm 10, who has CDs but no stereo. Perhaps it will work for her. Paulina drags me down to rm 10 (latinas do not worry about time and deadlines and "I have to leave now" as much as north americans do). Marisol and 2 other girls talking and looking at sexy underwear in a dresser drawer that is on the bed. I tell Marisol that I have a stereo for her, but the CD may not work. Paulina takes over, plugs it in, it doesn't work on the bed, so she puts it on a level surface on the dresser. I slip in a Merengue CD. It works. All hips in the room start shaking furiously (that is merengue). This is not an official valentine, since Marisol is from D.R., not Colombia. Now I am really late, but Marisol insists on a final kiss.
Seventh Valentine: on the way to the car, Perla follows me. How come there are gifts for every other girl in Seamans, but not me? No time to explain that she is not Colombian and that I don't like her acting jealous and I would like some improvements in the room, etc. She really is a pretty young thing, tight body, and did complete my first 3-climax afternoon recently. Okay, "No problema", come to the car. Here is a pareo beach wrap (that I bought on sale for just such a situation). The pareo looks great on her. I think she should wear it in the bar, with nothng else on!
-zing
P.S. I wasn't late. Had to sit in the airport waiting room for 7 minutes!
What do you mean entering the danger zone?
Zing, have you left the island?
[QUOTE=Sxmperson101]What do you mean entering the danger zone?
Zing, have you left the island?[/QUOTE]
the danger zone is when you are completely captivated by the latinas....
but leaving the island is also a DANGER ZONE. I know because I am travelling 3 weeks to the USA soon and I worry about it. Perhaps should just forget about chicas until I return....
-zing
Ahh, with you gone maybe I will finally be able to find Carolina when she isn't "occupado" :)
Damn, Zing....another fine report. But I almost wish you would stop (please don't!) I'm still in sex prison for another month or so and your reports make me realize what I'm missing.
But at least once the season starts I hit St Maarten, Aruba and Curacao one after another. That should get me caught up a bit.
pogo
[quote=zing23]the danger zone is when you are completely captivated by the latinas....
but leaving the island is also a danger zone. i know because i am travelling 3 weeks to the usa soon and i worry about it. perhaps should just forget about chicas until i return....
-zing[/quote]
i hear ya bro...the latinas are dangerous in that they capture your heart, make you feel young and are just so dang tasty!
but the danger zone is a lot different in the us...it is truly dangerous and you could lose your freedom very easily and quickly. especially for those of us that don't have our us street smarts up to speed due to the ease of mongering in the islands.
i'll stick with the legal houses in the islands where it's always a business doing pleasure and a pleasure doing business.
good luck in the us!
pogo
I will be in St. Marteen in October. After visiting Brazil, Dominican, Germany and Thailand I am sure not expecting much. But can anyone tell me where I can find action in St. Marteen? Are the girls GFE providing BBBJ and DFK? Are the hotels guest friendly or do you have to do your services of site. Any help is welcome, thanks in advance. I will bring back picture.
Jay
Sorry to always ask so many questions..
So what is the best way to ask for/receive a BBBJ?
[QUOTE=Sxmperson101]Sorry to always ask so many questions..
So what is the best way to ask for/receive a BBBJ?[/QUOTE]
Read [url=http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=412163&postcount=86]this article[/url] that is pointed to in the "Reports of Distinction" under "Lesser Antilles"
It has chica spanish for all common activities.
quick answer: chupando, sin condon, por favor?
-zing
[QUOTE=JayHighFive]I will be in St. Marteen in October. After visiting Brazil, Dominican, Germany and Thailand I am sure not expecting much. But can anyone tell me where I can find action in St. Marteen? Are the girls GFE providing BBBJ and DFK? Are the hotels guest friendly or do you have to do your services of site. Any help is welcome, thanks in advance. I will bring back picture.
Jay[/QUOTE]
all answers are in [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=426807&postcount=3]this article[/url]
So, if you go sin condom, is it ok to cum in their mouth?
[QUOTE=Sxmperson101]So, if you go sin condom, is it ok to cum in their mouth?[/QUOTE]
don't worry. it depends on the girl. most are not that keen on CIM. they will say "no finito en boca" and point to their chest instead if they are worried.
-zing
It is easier to figure out what the chicas want than to figure out what I want. They want money, attention, respect, and a considerate lover (just like any woman). I want a woman that I can enjoy and indulge a bit, but do I prefer a lot of different woman each of unpredictable quality from 3 to 7, or one woman repeating at quality 7, 8 and 9?
Last visit I jumped from girl to girl all day. Today I tried to take it easier in St Maarten for 2 reasons: I can't keep going at this pace. 4 girls, then one day off, then what today? I am too old to service girls at that rate anymore. And today I had a busy, hot, work day with just 3 hrs for chicas. Plus, I saw most of my Colombiana amigas last time for Valentines (Sept 17 is "Amor y Amistad" day in Colombia, or "Love and Friendship"), but I didn't take the BEST ones to the room.
Today I have only 2 goals: 1) to see Beatriz at Carolina and 2) to see Nancy at Casa Blanca. Just 2 girls, but the most GFE. And I will not be distracted by a pretty new face (I hope).
Carolina at 2pm. There were only 3 girls in the bar, including Nicola, who lured me off to the room last time. She disentangled herself from the guy she was with and starting paying attention to me. I was polite, but did not encourage her (no hugging and kisses). After about 10 minutes, during which time I noticed about 8 other girls, but not Beatriz, Nicola finally asked me if I was looking for another girl! Bingo. She goes back into the rooms to see if Beatriz is there. She returns and says to wait and Beatriz will be out.
Beatriz appears in the bar. Nice reunion and chat, buy a coke for her. She thanks me warmly for the English CDs, but did not understand the included Colombian valentine card. She didn't know that Amor y Amistad was this weekend and she wasn't certain that we didn't have the same holiday at the same time in St Maarten - once she realized that that Sunday was the day, and only in Colombia, she was much warmer and cuddlier. Beatriz is short and rounded and lush, with long curly hair, and has the most vulnerable looking eyes. After I finish my drink, she asks if I would like to go to the room. Yes. $3 to the bar. I slip $5 into Nicola's hand for her help (while she is working on another guy) and we are off.
In rm 12, I present Luna the roommate with her Valentine card/gift. She looks as pretty as before. Luna is slim, taller, with intelligent looking eyes, and long straight hair. She says that the straight hair is due to chemicals - without the treatments, her hair is curly like Beatriz' and is impossible to deal with. Beatriz offers me "dos chicas" again and I ask "possible?" then say "si". These girls are so relaxed and sexy and fun, an hour slips by without my knowing it. The only awkward moment was when they tried to do a joint BBBJ and bumped foreheads! Obviously they don't do this often enough to have a set routine. At one point where I am really enjoying the two of them at the same time, Luna suggests that they should arrange 3 girls for me. They are teasing me for my enthusiasm, but they are half serious. They didn't ask for more $, but I give them a raise from $40 to $60 each.
Goal 1 for the day achieved, I drive up to Casa Blanca and the first person I see in the bar is Nancy, who runs over and jumps into my arms and gets lifted off her feet. She has missed me, since I haven't been to see her in over a week. She thought something might have happened. And she hasn't had a customer in 4 days - it is really quiet in St Maarten this week!
In room 1, little Nancy is all over me. I try to spend time pleasuring her, but she always returns the session to pleasuring me. After a "muy caliente" encounter, I have not climaxed. Too soon since my marathon valentines day, and the 2 girls at Carolina today. At this point, I am always a little apprehensive because the typical chica will then try to complete the transaction with a handjob, which gets more and more fast and painful(!) if you don't come. But not Nancy. She knows that won't work with me. So she doesn't complain about no leche, no "have you been fucking other girls?", no "por que?". She just cuddles up, kisses me, climbs aboard, and starts rubbing her pussy and pelvis on my tired cock. After a short time, I am hard again and eager. This goes on a long time. When I am almost crazy, she pulls me on top of her and the deed is finished in 30 seconds. In the bar, you would never guess that she has this in her. She looks like a tiny, trim girl next door, but with friendly flirty eyes.
I have 30 minutes left, so I drop into Seamans to give Joanna Maria her valentine. But she is tied up with a guy at the bar, so I just give her a quick kiss on the cheek and wait at the bar. One of Paulina's friends comes up and asks if I want her to go find Paulina and I say no, I am waiting for another girl. Paulina wanders in, we hug and talk. The cute Dominicana that runs the bar now has put on some really nice salsa music instead of loud reggaeton. Paulina and I dance. Joanna is still busy.
Joanna is finally free, so I say "uno minoto" to Paulina and move down the bar. Small heart-shapped box of chocolates and a card to Joanna. She is surprised. She tells me that I was the first man she had at Seamans the day she arrived and would love to do it again. She looks very good.
I have one box of chocolates left (never did see Lina or Diana), so I slid it across the bar to the bartender and thank her for the nice music. On the way out the door, Marisol is sitting on the steps. She asks me to stop and give her and her friend a music CD.
When I had my favorita Viviana at Carolina club for 8 months, I got slightly tired of her and felt trapped (hope she isn't reading this) and didn't have the courage to hurt her feelings by switching. Her big brown young eyes were so like a puppy dog. But when I had the string of monagamous "girlfriends" at Seamans from December through June, I loved it. Conclusion: once I develop the discipline to bail out when it isn't perfect, I am more happy with a single chica (per club mind you). Of course now I have to consider having a steady threesome at each club instead!
Perhaps I will keep Seamans as my place to party and spoil all the chicas (slightly), with regular girls at the other clubs. Or perhaps I will single out one girl at Seamans also. It is a lot of work indulging 10 or 12 girls!
-zing
p.s. I had an email from my Louisa in Periera Colombia this week. Turns out her name is really Maria! It was fun trying to figure out the Spanish and replying. She was my last "girlfriend" at Seamans before my experiment in monogamy exploded (see previous reports for all the details).
(Some background info: I live in US as a foreign citizen. Due to LE and my status, I cannot monger in US at all. My usual playground is Montreal where GFE and BBBJ is more or less norm. I haven't had sex in more than a month and not seen a provider in over 8 months. I was considering other N. A islands but TLN possibilities were strongest here at St. Maarten.)
Day 1: Woke up 4 AM, arrived SXM around 12 noon. This is my first trip to this island. So I decided to just case the two most famous joint starting around 6PM. Went to Seaman and found three chicas, none to my liking. Had a drink and waited for more to chicas to show up but no action for nearly half hour. Went to Carolina. More chicas than Seaman but still none to my liking. Overall Carolina had better looking ones. In Seaman's every girl solicited me, but here none does.
Wondered into restaurant right next, and met Paola (Rm. #2). Long black/brown hair, slim with A size breast. One of the more beautiful face I have seen any where. Been here almost 3 weeks. Worked in Aruba before. Asked if she does BBBJ but forgot to negotiate price (mistake #1). Went to her room and on the way met blond Daniel. In the room Paola asked for $50 not usual $40 and asked for it up front. Should have walked out but I hadn't fucked in a month so the little head dictated the action. The service itself was quite awe-right. Not quite GFE but more than merely acceptable. BBBJ was dutifully provided and even moaned at right time. She's a clock watcher and announced end of session right at 20 min mark. Despite this, I asked how much for TLN (mistake #2). Quoted $300+45 for fine. Since this seems to be the going price for early evening, so I agreed and took her to my hotel. Asked for money up front again. So I opened the safe and accidentally flashed bundle of money. (mistake #3) Gave her the money and I thought we were going to start the session but no. Says $300 is only for her to be at hotel and not for fucking. Wants another $100 for one session. The DefCon 5 alarm should have rung at this moment but did not. Gave her $100 more (mistake #4) somewhat reluctantly and started the session. Not long after she offered sexo sin condom for $500 more, which was what I had left of the cash. Finally, my real head woke up, and decided to send her away. I have been in the hobby long enough to know that a damaged session is almost never recoverable and it's waste of time and money trying to get more out of the girl who were only after money. When it comes to this hobby, there's no such thing as salvaging a sesssion: you can only limit or control the damage. Called the taxi and sent her away. (In taxi, she wanted another $5 for chippie for her cell phone. I just slammed the taxi door.) It was only 10 PM and I went to bed almost crying at my own stupidity. For her credit, Paola does admit she's money hungry. Be warned.
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Day 2: Went to Carolina around 7PM and set around for no good reason. Did not see Paola or Daniel, who I had eye on from previous day. Didn't see one single girl mentioned on this board.
Went to Seaman around 8PM. The generator stopped working, so I took out my ipod nano knock-off and started listening. Then a chica to my liking came up to me. Been here only 5 days. Never worked as a SP any where. This time, I made sure of the price($40) and BBBJ before going to the room. I cannot say the exact reason why but the vibe was so right with this chica. So when we arrived at her room, without going through a preview session, I asked for TLN and she quoted $300(no multa). Came back to hotel and offered drink. All she wanted was juice. The session was so-so due to her lack of experience. But she was eager to please: asked me if the condom was bothering. Si. Asks me Sin condom? I flinched for a moment but all things considered, the risk seems minimal. So we fucked unprotected until 1PM next day. Removing condom made the session feel more intimate for me, of course. But seems to do the same trick for her too, strangely: her service improved quite a bit. All these time she did not mention about money not even once. All the money talk was started by me. Asked if she wants to come to US for better life: says if it's really a better life without her families and friends. We talked briefly about her general poverty/life condition in colombia, but she quickly changed the subject to something more positive.
At the end, she did not even get her $300: instead she wanted my i-pod knock-off(little less than $200). I gave her what she wanted but had to justify to myself that the music contained in the player was worth something to her. I will withhold the name of chica until, of if ever, I read some report of her 'hardening up'. I know what her priorities are but that does not mean girls like this will not get abused.
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Day 3: After sending away gentle chica from seasman, I decided to rest my dick for a night. Had dinner at 'Talk of the Town': 2 order of ribs+cole slaw+ rice&bean+ drink for less than $20. Highly recommanded. The traffic to the Grand Case: not highly recommanded.
Day 4: Went straight to Seaman at 8PM thinking of Day2 chica. No sign of her. Sandra who is new at Seaman approached and went to her room. Wants money up front. Gave her a $50 because that's all I had and realistically did not expect $10 back. The session was quite un-remarkable. Asked if she will go all bareback for double the money, but she wisely refused.
She gave $10 back after the session. Seaman is her first SP experience. Slim with A/B breast, brown hair. Face is average. Businesslike but seemingly not money hungry like Paola. Decided to call it a night early b/c of Day 5.
Day 5: Woke up early for some non-chica related activities. Discovered real Jamaican Ginger Beer in glass bottles. Has much stronger ginger taste than any thing available in US. Also tried one in a can but ginger taste is not as strong. If you know of gingerly drink like this that's widely available in US, please let me know.
So far Saint Martin, compared to Montreal, is
1) GFE is harder to come by and general level of service is lower. I suspect speaking more Spanich might change the situation.
2) BBFS seems more available
3) Chicas are cheaper by average of about %70. In Montreal, I can dream about TLN, here I can actually afford it.
4) I got DFK from all the chicas except Sandra of Seamen, so it's not as rare as reported to be.
5) Lodging and transportation costs more, for me. If you live in Miami or have time share here, situation would be different.
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Day 6: Started my last full day of chica activity by prospecting for TLN at Carolina and Seaman at 8PM.
Paola at Carolina wants to do the TLN again, but now I am thinking with my real head, so no way. Daniel was already snatched up by some old ugly gringo for TLN. Got a good vibe from Paulina of Carolina,(urgh), but I was kind of hoping to see Day2 chica. So, went to Seaman again but no sign of her. Sandra from the other day ignores me, which is fine. Left after half an hour due to hassel factor from other chicas.
At 9PM decided to case the Defiance and Petit Princess. Petit Princess: mostly thick black girls. Almost had a session with Anna: black, thin with B breast, pretty face. Wont do BBBJ, so no go.
Went to Defiance. This place has more cars parked than any other. IMHO, the reason is this place has more variety of girls. As soon as I walked in, I could tell someone was following me but not in a threatening way. The place is bigger than Carolina and Seaman and not as crowded as Petit Princess, making it for more relaxed atmosphere. So I made a round making little chit chat familarizing myself with the place.
Finally I sat down to order a drink, then the one who was pursueing me introduced herself : Tatiana. come from colombia a small town near Bogota, starts with P but forgot the name of the place. Slim with natural B breast. Black hair. Seen prettier face but still better than average. Little bit of zit problem but very smooth skin overall and her body has nice girly feel to it.
Presents herself not without flirt but still decently. Under other circumstances, we could be a real item or you can take her to mom and no one wouud suspect she's a SP. Has bible in her room and reads it and others when she can. Dont like gossiping with bar chicas. Dont want be amiga with anyone here. Tranquila. Says she will do BBBJ if I am clean. (She did.) $40 like all others. Despite larger than usual language barrier gets really good vibe. Decided to go to her room.
Unlike other places, $10 for the house for exactly 20 minutes. One more minute, it's another $10. Maybe things are a bit more relaxed during the daytime... The way partrona, or whoever it is behind the cashier, deals with chicas, I dont like. But Tatiana gives me one of the best service I ever received. After original session is over, I asked for TLN: she lights up and wants $200 but has to pay house $100. Says she has to pay $25 if not return by 11 AM, but no more mention of money or time after that. She paid $8 out of her pocket for me because I was short of cash, but did not ask me to pay back later or anything. Seems just glad to get out of the place.
At the hotel, the service is excellent, like a real girl friend who tries hard to please, not like a hardened pro who want to finish off. Can give something quite close to real massage, not one of those lets-waste-time- until-I-can-get-the-fck-out-of-here massage. She really likes me but no pretence of amore. (Sensibly, wont do sexo sin condom for any amount of money.)
We wind up having some interesting conversation despite language barrier. Her English was a bit more limited than other chicas but we communicate somehow. And she did not have luxury of going to college: wants to finish beauty school. Nonetheless, she has healthy attitude toward life and aware of world situation that betrays her seemingly low level of education. She tries to teach me real spanish, not chica spanish. We agreed that we should learn more of each other's language.
She has one month left here and already done curaso. Will tour other places. Dropped off her at noon and gave her $50 more. Actually almost forced money on her as she didn't put it in her bag as we walked out of hotel. Doing this for money, and it would be nice to have a man, but the most important thing is her 5 year old bambino to have better life.
Genuinely decent girl who deserves better than what she was dealt with: yet dont complain or be envious of other people. If you see her, please treat this girl well.
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[QUOTE=Hardtocum]Day 2:
At the end, she did not even get her $300: instead she wanted my i-pod knock-off(little less than $200). I gave her what she wanted but had to justify to myself that the music contained in the player was worth something to her. I will withhold the name of chica until, of if ever, I read some report of her 'hardening up'. I know what her priorities are but that does not mean girls like this will not get abused.
[/QUOTE]
Did you give her a little more than the knock off? Sounds like she would have been worth a little propina.
If you have contact with her and she does the circuit and ends up in St. Thomas, I and my Colombian ladies (like family not fucks) will help her out.
One of my friends had been there done that and she came out really great. If you really care and do not want to see her tainted, let me know.
Take care!
Excellent reporting Hardtocum. Sorry for day 1, but day 2 made it up again. Mind you, BBFS is not the norm in Saint Maarten, not even BBBJ. Chicas might do it only with some regulars they trust. What happened to you is quiete clear for me. The chica simply just didn't consider you anymore as a customer, that's why she didn't want also the money and prefered a gift. Keep in mind that she was new in the business and far from home without family and boyfriend. She seems to be a real gem, I appreciate you didn't give her name.
However, BBFS especially with thirdworld chicas is way too dangerous. AIDS and STD is one issue, but pregnancy is much more likely to occur. Hard to blame the girl to try to get out of her shit. Just imagine if she comes back a few month later with it, are you really going to turn your back and forget you have somewhere in the world your own child struggling with an unfair life?
[QUOTE=Hardtocum]Went to Defiance. ..
Finally I sat down to order a drink, then the one who was pursueing me introduced herself : Tatiana. ... Unlike other places, $10 for the house for exactly 20 minutes. One more minute, it's another $10. Maybe things are a bit more relaxed during the daytime... The way partrona, or whoever it is behind the cashier, deals with chicas, I dont like. But Tatiana gives me one of the best service I ever received. [/QUOTE]
Thanks for the reports. During the daytime, from about 1230pm on, Defiance is a different place from the evening. No accountant to collect $10 or keep track. And since each girl has her own room with no roommate, you can stay as long as she likes. However, a lot of the girls are not in the bar during this time, so you need to get phone numbers or at least room numbers (ask the girl if you can knock on her door, and at what time she gets up). And I think the girls can leave the property to go to the beach, shopping, etc. without a bar fine in the afternoon also.
You were wise not to give the name of the girl who gave you BBFS. The one hard and fast rule of the brothel owners is no BBFS, so if they read this forum or someone who did read it were to tell them about it, the girl would be kicked out and sent home immediately. Offers of BBFS are very rare in St Maarten, thought not unknown.
Today I met up with mel365 from ISG at Carolina and we took a tour of Carolina, Seamans and Defiance together. More details later.
-zing
I'd love to go on a Zing tour of Carolina and Seamans :)
[QUOTE=Hardtocum]So far Saint Martin, compared to Montreal, is
1) GFE is harder to come by and general level of service is lower. I suspect speaking more Spanich might change the situation.
2) BBFS seems more available
3) Chicas are cheaper by average of about %70. In Montreal, I can dream about TLN, here I can actually afford it.
4) I got DFK from all the chicas except Sandra of Seamen, so it's not as rare as reported to be.
5) Lodging and transportation costs more, for me. If you live in Miami or have time share here, situation would be different.
[/QUOTE]
Here is a strange coincidence. Routard, who has a lot of experience in St Maarten, has recently written a detailed review of Montreal: [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.in...3&postcount=806]click here.[/url] It is interesting to see the different experiences that mongerers have.
-zing
I met ISG member Mel365 at Carolina at 11:15am, but the bar was not open yet. So we sat in the air conditioned restaurant, which wasn't functioning either, and chatted. Normally I don't have anyone to talk to about my experiences, except the chicas, and they don't really want to hear about my time with other girls! This took a bit of getting used to, but eventually we are discussing girls and their precise services and prices, just like guys who talk about fishing. He had arrived the afternoon before and already had some chicas to recommend to me (Melissa at Carolina and Cecilia at Seamans). By 11:30, Carolina had still not opened, so we went over to Seamans, which was already bustling with girls (and a few guys).
At Seamans, I introduced Mel to my amigas Paulina and Carolina and other girls, and he introduced me to Cecilia (very interesting looking girl, strongly recommended by mel). It was like a party, since I knew people and he knew people.
[QUOTE=Sxmperson101]I went to the bar and got a beer, and a chica came up to me. Her name is Lucero, rm 13. She had a perfect body, enhanced breasts, face was nice. I had her before (on my first visit) but she didn't recognize me. I didn't offer her a drink or anything, and told her exactly what I wanted, got a price, and we went to her room. It was money well spent. I got a nice back massage with oil, a front massage, and then a CBJ. (That's what I asked for - no sex.) It was more sensual than my last girlfriend ever was. [/quote]
Because Lucero made Sxmperson's first experiences memorable and enjoyable I made a point of getting to know her over the last couple of weeks. And when Mel and I walked into Seamans, I went over to her sitting demurely on the sidelines and gave her a kiss on the cheek. Then I took her hand and guided her politely to the bar ("por favor"). All through the time that the other girls, who were angling for a repeat session with me, came to the bar for a chat and a kiss and an introductoin to Mel, I kept Lucero there and always moved my concentration back to her. It was a new situation for me, because I was also holding a low conversation with Mel in English at the same time ("Is this girl XXX the one that recommend?" "Yes, but everything is covered. Knowing what you prefer, you might want to try Joanna Maria instead." ...)
Lucero is as Sxmperson described her, but also she has the tightest 6-pack abs I have ever felt on a chica. We talked at the bar, Mel also speaks Spanish so we could hold a 3-way conversation. Somehow, Joanna Maria was standing beside Mel (he must have asked someone for her, because I did not see her come in). She looks very beautiful today - kind of a Monica Lewinsky look, but Latina. I gave her a kiss on the cheek and wished Mel well. As the other girls had given up on us, I was free to concentrate on Lucero. With the implants and her makeup and low-cut top, she has the look of a pro, but I was hoping for a spot of softness. I noticed that her back and shoulder muscles were very tight (and fit), so I gave her a bit of a rub. She asked if I was going to give her a massage in the room. At this point, I wonder what she knows about me. She doesn't chat much with the other girls, so perhaps she just knows what she has seen in the bar on my previous visits.
In her room, number 13, Lucero started in a friendly but business-like way. However, I insisted that first she lie down and accept a massage, so that she will be relaxed. She hands me the massage lotion, but I can tell she is unsure. After 5 minutes, she is starting to relax and guiding me back to the spots that need more attention. This goes on for quite a while. Finally I lie down next to her and start kissing her gently on the face and lips. She says that this is very unusual. Other clients just pay and pump (of course, the 20-minute rule encourages that -- I ignore the rules). I feel her tight abs and massage her thighs and stroke her pussy. She does seem relaxed now. So I kiss down her body to her chucha and begin DATY. After a long time, I decide that although she likes it, she doesn't really want to climax, so I gently stop and kiss her fingertips and hold her. We kiss and she strokes me hard and changes position for a BJ.
At this point she opens the condom, but I ask "possible, sin condon" and she says "si, perro chupa sola" (yes, but bj only sir!). Very good BBBJ. CFS. Ending up face to face. Very sexy climax. We lie on the bed afterwards and talk a lot. She is from Cali, with 2 children. About an hour in total. Good experience.
At the bar, Mel and Joanna Maria are sitting more intimately and relaxed than before. Mel says thank you for the recommendation. I chat with Perla and explain why we are not going to the room anymore. Still friends, a bit. I spot the beautiful hispanic girl that I saw last time, sitting on the same chair in the middle of the room against the post. She never comes to the bar and approaches the men, so I go over and sit next to her. We talk, up close she still looks very nice. Ximena in room 7, from Cali. Two children. Can those breasts be real? It is possible. They aren't huge, but they are perfectly shaped and exposed in a white blouse like the Mexican heroine always wears in the movie. Her hair is long, dark and very curly. Her facial features are just about perfect. She hasn't made enough money yet to get a cellphone, but I get her room # and her friends cell # and ask if she will be my amante next time. Mel agrees she looks very beautiful. We will see how she is in the room - I try not to be prejudiced against beautiful women.
We head back to Carolina, which is now open. It is quieter than Carolina, but not dead. I have a reunion with Estefania (who is now in room 7) and introduce her to Mel (recommended). He is keeping a list on a small piece of paper of names, room numbers and telephone numbers, and it is getting longer and longer. Mel runs into Melissa, who he has an appointment with later, but she runs off to restaurant to get a bite to eat. I have not seen Diana and Lina in a week - perhaps they have gone back to Colombia even though they had planned to stay until December. Mel and I talk some more in English, while Estefania tries to distract me by cuddling up and stroking me. I am trying to let some time pass after my hour with Lucero, but my willpower is slipping away.
At last I pull out $3 for the bar fine, say good bye to Mel and head off with Estefania. On the way into the hotel I see Beatriz and Luna and say hello and turn around and try to signal Mel that he must get to know these two! About 45 minutes later I return to the bar and resume talking to Mel. He says I look totally relaxed now, which is true because I had a good time with Estefania.
I suggest we go to Defiance (dee-fi-yah in spanish) for a sandwich and a look around. Mel doesn't know exactly where that is so I give him directions (top of the hill on the way to Casa Blanca, go through the huge gateway on the right) and he follows me. We order a chicken sandwich and an beefsteak sandwich from the snack bar and walk into the bar. Almost no guys, but about 10 or 12 girls. "Dominicanas" he says, and I correct him "Dominicanas and Colombianas". I say hello to those I recognize and one tells me that my regular, Alexandra from Cartagena is still here, in room 211. So I got back to her room and knock on the door. She looks as good as ever and is ready to leave her room. She asks me what time it is and is surprised to learn that it is already after 3pm. Back in the bar I introduce her to Mel and he is collecting names and phone numbers from other girls. Then we head back across the parking lot for our lunch.
Sandwiches are good, Mel talks to me in English and talks to Alexandra in Spanish and admires her rack. She has a shrimp curry with vegetables - very tasty and healthy too. Mel gets Alexandra's room and cell number. I tell her I am sorry that I don't have time to visit her room today, but perhaps next time. She tells Mel about the time that I came to the Happy Hour party with 3 girls on my arms (see previous report). Mel picks up the tab for lunch and drinks for all of us - $26. Thanks!
At 10 minutes to 4pm, I say goodbye to Mel and make tentative plans to meet again on Wed or Thu. He says he has plenty of names now to keep him busy for the week. I head off to Casa Blanca for my 4pm appointment with little Nancy in room 1 (it was the perfect ending to the day-highly recommended).
-zing
Threesome
Went into Carolina to find Beatriz. First girl I spot is Estefania, who has given me several great sessions. I go to the bar for a soft drink and she slides in on my left. I look to the right and there is an empty chair, then Beatriz, followed by Nicola (another previous session). So now I have 3 of "my" girls in a row. This is a social challenge, but I am up to it. Greetings and kisses for everyone. Chit chat. Then ask Beatriz if she would like something to drink (bee-bear al-go). She moves into the empty chair next to me. Nicola already suspects that I am interested in either Beatriz or Estefania because last week I used her to go back and find Beatriz. Estefania gets the message, in a nice way, that I have chosen for today. Beatriz and I chat while I wait until 11:30 am to see if Mel365 is coming in today. She tells me that he has been in Carolina a lot and took a girl for the whole night - he might not be back this morning!
At 11:31 Beatriz and I go to her room (12). We pass her roommate Luna, who has been part of our last 2 sessions, and I say "adios". In the room, we relax and have a kiss. Within a minute, there is a knock on the door and Luna pokes her head in. Greetings, kiss on cheek. Then Beatriz quietly asks me if I would like two girls again. Not aggressively, but charmingly, with a shy smile. I look over at Luna and she has this impish look on her face. Irresistable. Of course I want "dos".
I have another wonderful session - we each get some massage and caresses and kisses and a bit of oral sex, but it isn't really possible to focus on two girls' pleasure like you can with one girl. Instead, the focus is on me, with lips and breasts and pussies everywhere, with BBBJ and DATY at the same time, with cowboy while receiving a massage by breasts. I end up with Beatriz in doggie with Luna kneeling next to me, kissing and caressing me.
It seemed like forever, but we actually only spent a little over 30 minutes at this. But with showers before and after, it is probably 45 minutes. I feel like I would like to cuddle up with them on the bed, but we left the bar full of guys and they need to get back. Paulina at Seamans had suggested that instead of having 4 sessions with 4 different girls, I should try 4 sessions in one afternoon with the SAME girl. This idea has been rolling around in my subconscious, waiting for a suitable chica and place.
I know that at 4pm the girls have their own time, so I ask Beatriz if we can do this again today, at 4pm. She looks puzzled, but says yes. I say we can have a small fiesta with something to eat. Does she like Pizza? Yes! Followed by a quiet siesta. Okay, we have a date.
Ximena from Cali
After time for some shopping, I find Seamans club hopping. There is one cruise ship in port and there are crew members at both clubs. I am looking for Ximena (rm 7) who I had talked to last time. I greet Andrea, who I have never had a session with, but whom I like. She asks if I can get her a drink and I say yes. With her at my side, the other girls are more manageable. Cecilia, who is on my to-do list per a recommendation from Mel365, bats her eyelashes at me. Joanna Maria thanks me for sending Mel365 to her. Paulina and Carolina want to know when we will do our next threesome. etc. Lucero gets a kiss and Perla tries another sales job. Andrea and I talk about our lives, her problems, why I need so many chicas, my search for Ximena, all punctuated by me greeting chicas. There is no sign of Ximena and Andrea is giving me a friendly sales job for herself. I am just weakening when I spot Ximena standing near her regular spot. Andrea sees me looking and arches around a post to see who it is - aha, that one! I smile and gesture Ximena over. Andrea gracefully makes her exit, drink in hand.
Ximena is tall for a latina, and slim, but with large natural breasts. She has long curly hair and a latina face with amerindian cheekbones and beautiful eyes. She is shivering from the airco and skimpy wardrobe, so I take her in my arms and warm her up. We talk, but the chemistry is not immediate. In the room, she lays back on the bed langorously. She looks like one of those polynesian girls from Mutiny on the Bounty.
She is very tense, so I give her a strong massage, slowly removing halter and hotpants as it progresses. I end up with one hand massaging her lower back while the other is between her legs, cupping her pussy. She starts to move her hips. She turns over and I finally see her breasts - they are large and natural. Very exotic, but like all girls, not as perfect as I imagined in the bar. She turns me over and reciprocates the massage, very nicely. She reaches under me to check little Zing and flips me over on my back. We kiss on the lips, she accepts some tongue, but is still not into the GFE idea. She kisses down my body, using her body position to escape my embrace. She strokes me, and goes for the condom. I ask for BBBJ, she says "ok, poco". Quite good, but soon the cover is on. I am nice and aroused. I pull her up for a kiss and then I lightly nuzzle her nipples, and then move down to her pussy. Looks and feels and smells good, so I start a gentle DATY. After a short time, she actually gets into it. She keeps saying "suave" which means soft, which must refer to my tongue, because my upper lip is pressed hard against her mound and she is grinding into it. I keep doing what she asks for, and her grinding gets more intense. I slip a finger in and massage her G-spot. Her muscles contract around my finger and she has a climax. (I am pretty sure of this one, but you can never be 100% sure.)
Now she is eager to finish me off. But I have gone a bit soft and she has already covered me up, so getting me good and ready again would require more skill and awareness than she has shown so far, and I am still recovering from my duo at Carolina. She manages the job, but I am not raging. The sex is nice and she is eager, but I don't climax. Perhaps the girls from 2 days ago drained all my "milk" (leche). She tells me it is too bad I didn't get leche, because she did! We clean up and dress and she sends me back to the bar (bad strategy on her part, she should have taken the time to walk me back to the bar and let me show her off to the other guys so they will consider her).
Andrea
In the bar, it is close to 3pm. Carolina asks why I haven't been back to her and Paulina for another threesome. She says she is very sad and is going to cry. She looks very beautiful, but I am not buying this story so I get close and stare right into her eyes, and smile. She breaks out in a laugh! Alright, it was worth a try she seems to say. Paulina comes up, they are dressed to go out shopping. Paulina asks if I can find French lessons for Spanish speakers for her and her child (like the English lessons for Spanish speakers that I gave her before). I say I will look, and Carolina says make a "copia" for me too.
Andrea comes up to continue our talk. I pull her down in my lap and put my arms around her. She asks how it was with Ximena and I tell her. She says you need a lot of chicas. I reply that I had 40 years without enough sex and I have made up for it in the last year. A cute, slim, sharp looking girl comes up and starts talking fast to Andrea. I don't understand. Andrea says that she had a problem with this girl last week and the boss made her pay a $300 fine for the other girl. She says this other girl is ruthless and has no heart. I say "a shark?" and she says yes, they are all sharks. All? Well, some.
Andrea says she likes me, and has decided that she doesnt want fucky-fucky with me. She is small, so I can cup her in both my arms like a baby and she calls me papi (her father ran away and abandoned her mother, as the father of her child did to her also). There are many 3 or 4 generation all-female families in Latin America. I recall the time that we met and that I liked her wit and smile from the start. She says that she lied to me at the start, her name is not realy Andrea. She tells me her real name. We talk more - I tell her about my chicas, about my appointment at 4pm to repeat with two girls at Carolina. Tomorrow is her son's birthday, but she can't afford to throw him a fiesta with friends and masks and games - she isn't making any money at Seamans and she still owes the other chica $100. She wants to buy her son some nice shoes for his birthday, but there will be no party at home. I ask if she can accept a gift for her son and she says yes. I slip her a large bill, folded up so the other girls don't see it.
Ximena returned to the bar during this conversation, so I give her a goodbye kiss and thank you on the way out.
4pm with Beatriz and Luna
I get a Pizza Hut large supreme, a bottle of coke and 2 small bottles of rose wine. At 4:02pm there is no sign of Beatriz in the Carolina bar, but I go back into the hotel and to her open room. I think they are surprised that I actually showed up, and with a pizza. They are listening to one of the romantic latin CDs that I gave them, lounging on the bed and talking to a third girl, a friend, another short Colombiana with large implants, new to Carolina. We get organized to eat the pizza and I meet the friend. I ask if she will stay with us and have a piece of pizza. The pizza is much tastier than the West Indian food that they usually eat. The friend leaves and we send the 3 leftover pieces of pizza down the hall to some other amigas.
I put Marta Gomez on the stereo and say I am ready for a siesta. Marta Gomez is a Colombian singer, but they have never heard of her because she mostly performs on NPR in the USA. He music is latin, but gentle and almost like lullabies. We agree that it will great for their kids. I turn off the light and slip off my clothes, then stretch out on the bed. Beatriz cuddles up while Luna is in the bathroom. She politely asks if I want Luna to join us. My sessions are always with Beatriz, she is the senior chica, and she never assumes that I automatically must pay for Luna too. Of course I ask for Luna to join us. Now I have a naked girl curled up in each arm and we drift in and out of sleep, listening the the gentle latin music (it lasts about 80 minutes, so we have our alarm clock).
After a 40 minute siesta, Beatriz starts playing with me and I get hard. Don't I want sex this time? Perhaps. I am quite relaxed. It all feels good. I start kissing Luna. Beatriz starts a BBBJ.
Later, I end up on top of Luna, stroking slowly and firmly, Beatriz is laying back on the bed next to us and I lean over for a kiss. I stare into her face while I pump Luna. She asks if I want to switch. I look from one to another. Luna senses my hesitation and says "no problema". Beatriz asks "Luna or me to finish?". I growl back fiercely "Luna" and start to pump faster - they laugh. It is the first time I have been aggressive with them.
As I get ready to leave, I ask what is the price for a siesta and pizza? Luna laughs - she has no idea. I leave them $60 each for the 2 hours. I pay the bar $6 on the way out. Beatriz asks if I can give her a ride to her school where she takes lessons at 6pm. Can we do this in 5 minutes, because I am cutting my schedule close and don't want to be stranded in St Maarten overnight (or do I?). Of course she says it is close, but actually the school is in the wrong direction and the rush hour traffic is terrible, but I make it with 15 seconds to spare anyway.
Demasiada Chicas
Another day in paradise, and I am starting to feel some closure on chicas and sex and St Maarten. Beatriz told me they know I have lots of girls at Seamans (the chica tom-tom). I admit to other girls at Defiance and Casa Blanca also. She says I really like pussy. I started a year ago and now I am going so often, and even though I go with as many girls as physically possible, I cannot get back to all the GFE ones every time anymore. I like them a lot more than I did at the start, when I was nervous and my Spanish was non-existant. But I feel the urge to cut back, slow down slightly and focus more. I think the siestas are a sign of that. And I have had most of my fantasies (there is still the one where the one girl is doggy and the other is underneath licking my balls, but I am sure that will happen soon).
-zing
Two more great writeups, Zing. You are one of the greats :)
Suppose you cum fast one time, like in only a couple of minutes. Should that count for the entire session? Or do you think you should be able to go again?
Great report Zing! Keep up the good work.
You remind me of myself many years ago!
[QUOTE=Sxmperson101]Suppose you cum fast one time, like in only a couple of minutes. Should that count for the entire session? Or do you think you should be able to go again?[/QUOTE]
I'm sure the official policy of the clubs is that one shot is all you get for $40. Of course the girl should give you your full 20-25 minutes of post-sex cuddling or whatever else you want.
Unofficially and actually, it is totally up to the girl. I would just be appreciative that she is so hot and pull her in for caresses and hugs and compliments and then see what happens. of course, if she goes for this and you come again, I think a tip is in order!
-zing
After my first 6 months mongering I listed the things that surprised me the most (you might want to read [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=449235&postcount=172]that report[/url] before you read this one). Now it has been a year since I started in St Maarten. I decided to commemorate the anniversary by revealing the 10 funniest things that have happened to me.
Where are the Salma Hayeks?
1. On my first visit to Seamans Club, I expected to see 20 girls that looked like [url=http://www.eva-longoria.net/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/4207/size/big/cat/794]Eva Longoria[/url], [url=http://www.superiorpics.com/salma_hayek/pictures/6390_hayek_69949_picture.html]Salma Hayak[/url] and [url=http://www.superiorpics.com/jennifer_lopez/pictures/jennifer_sd19405_picture.html]Jennifer Lopez.[/url] I didn't see a single girl that looked like that. Many had hair dyed blond and large breast implants. I was very disappointed. I have never been to Colombia, but I have been to D.R. and it seemed that the D.R. girls in our clubs were not as good looking as those I saw in the shops and hotels of Santo Domingo. I would see girls on the streets of St Maarten and say "she is better looking than most of the chicas in the clubs".
Finally I realized that I am not seeing those other girls closeup, naked, and in bed. My evaluations would be different if I did. I now know that most, perhaps all, girls are not perfect. The club chicas are mostly pretty and fit and young, and friendly. That is enough to make me happy. The age ranges from 20 to about 35, but age doesn't seem to matter (they are all much younger than me). A very few have perfect, natural bodies and beautiful faces. When I took a session with one of them, she was just as good as the more ordinary girls, which blew away my prejudice against stunners. Some girls just give uninspired service. I don't know how you tell in advance.
I Couldn't Say No
2. At first, I couldn't say no to any of the girls. If she showed an interest in me, I would rather go to the room than say "no". I think it has to do with 40 years of living in an environment where girls were always elusive. When I don't want to go with a girl, I remind myself of where I am and then try to nicely say "no gracias". One girl was so pitiful when I did not repeat with her (big brown eyes in a beautiful face, asking quietly "por que?"). I just couldn't tell her it was because she wouldn't do a BBBJ! And she stayed 8 months in St Maarten. I had plenty of nice times with her, but I missed out on a lot of great girls at her club during those 8 months. Sometimes I just avoided the club for a couple of weeks at a time. (Pathetic Zing.)
Exotic Girls
3. For years I lusted after black girls, but never had one. I finally have my chance and I expect something wildly different and exotic. What a surprise. Black girls are just like white girls, only a different color. After a year in St Maarten I can honestly say that I don't really notice their skin color anymore. Other things matter more: eyes, smile, kisses, attitude, etc. Of course I still have my fantasies about big blond East European girls and tiny Asian cuties -- I "know" that THEY MUST BE EXOTIC (Yeah, sure Zing).
Just One Kiss For Me Please
4. On my first visit to Defiance, I sat on a bench with a girl and tried to make chit chat. X was from Colombia and had an incredible natural chest. I was mesmerized! After she asked if I would like fucky-fucky sucky-sucky, I said that I only had 10 minutes to spare. X said that she would like one kiss from me before I left (un beso para mi). But she couldn't kiss me in the bar; it was against the rules. We would have to go to her room. I was very naive. We went to her room and she gave me a 10 minute kiss that started with DFK, moved down to kissing her breasts, and turned into DATY, leaving her naked, and all without my lips leaving her body. This was my first GFE experience and I was floored. I left her $10 and hurried out.
I spent weeks visiting X and taking her to the beach, and taking her to hotels so she could cheat on the guy that she was living with after she ran away from Defiance. Eventually her cellphone stopped answering and I assumed she went back in Colombia. Seven months later I am talking to another girl at Defiance and I mention that my favorita X had also been at Defiance. She said, I know X, the "un beso para mi" girl! That shattered a lot of illusions. I was pretty stupid to think that the way we met was unique.
What Was Your Name?
5. In the first few months I was so nervous reviewing my Spanish and trying to pick the best girl that a couple of times I went to the room with the wrong girl. I would meet a little hottie the previous week and even have a session. The next time I could not remember which one she was. When I finally spotted her, I was so relieved that I rushed her to the room. Then I discovered that I had picked a completely different girl. Of course, sometimes the new girl was better than the girl I thought she was.
I Forgot to Pay
6. Arriving at Carolina, I was looking forward to a good session, since the last visit with the same girl had been very GFE, as had the previous one. When we get in the room, she tells me that I forgot to pay her the last time. I had just left the room in a romantic fog, never leaving any money at all. (Remember Zing, they do this for money, not love.)
How Did That Happen?
7. I was with a little chica from Medellin at Defiance. We had been at it for a long time and I was in the spoon position, really thrusting strongly. All of a sudden it felt better and I was about to climax. she looked down and saw that my condom was split and bunched up around my shaft. She shrieked and jumped out of the bed to the bathroom for a furious cleaning. I was left in bed to thrust against air!
What's In The Bag?
8. I am in the habit of giving the girls small gifts (I am not certain that this is really a great idea, but so far I like it). I gave one girl a small stuffed cat with magnets on the paws so that you can hang it anyway you want. It was lumped in the bottom of a black plastic grocery bag, and when I handed the bag over, she wouldn't take it. She said it looked like a a bag of shit. This girl must have come from a tough neighborhood.
Two Girlfriends At the Same Club
9. Starting in December, I had a long experiment at Seamans where I only went with one girl at a time. When the first one left after three months, she turned me over to her friend, who turned me over to another girl two months later. By the third girl, I was hooked on this - the girls were super GFE, they had instructions from the previous girl so that I always got what I liked. Finally, one girl had to leave in a hurry and made the mistake of recommending 2 girls instead of 1. I knew I should just select one of them and stick to her, but I was greedy. I thought I could have both of them at the same club. I had one great session with each of the two, then everything fell to pieces and I never had another good moment again with either of them. Talk about competition and jealousy. Another time I had a favorite at Defiance that I visited exclusively. But one day on a whim I let another girl take me to the room when my favorita was not in the bar. The first girl was never quite as warm again, and the session with the second girl wasn't any good anyway. In both cases, I think I was feeling constricted, so I sabotaged the situation myself. (Stupid Zing.)
I Am Not Lost!
10. Women accuse men of being unwilling to ask for directions when they are lost, and it must be true. I almost never ask for help in the clubs when I cannot find a specific girl. Often she is back in her room (waiting for me I imagine) and I never get to see her. As soon as I sucumb to another girl and start for her room, I usually bump into the girl I really wanted. For a new visitor, who does not know what they look like, it is almost impossible to find a specific girl on your own. If I am desperate, I will ask one of the girls for help finding my target girl, but have yet to ask the bartenders for help! This is really stubborn, because your chances of finding a single specific chica in a big club are not good. There are lots of girls, only a few are in your line of vision, and even fewer of these talk to you and give you their name. The ONLY way to get a specific chica is to ask for her repeatedly, to the bartender, to other chicas, even to other guys!
That's it -- after 40 years without enough sex, I now have had one year with too much sex! I think that my reports on St Maarten are becoming repetitive. Since I am going on vacation soon, I will have a natural break in posting. Unless something dramatic happens like a new club opening, I think that in the future I will just list new girls that I recommend. Everything I have to say about St Maarten is already in this thread. Look for my reports later in the year from other places around the world: [url=http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=275]here,[/url] [url=http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=248]here[/url] and [url=http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=1007]here![/url]
-zing
Zing
I have been following your adventures and excellent reporting. Including your great summaries like this one. It is surprising that you have only been in the hobby for a year. You provide a lot of insight along with some good advice for those thinking they are reaching a special level with some girls. The "un beso para mi" girl is a classic. It is not difficult to fall for some of these girls, but your report brings us back to reality.
We have a similar style in treating the girls nicely. I saw you also were able to leverage the Colombian Valentines information. These kinds of things go a long way and your small gifts practice should continue.
I looked at your future travel destinations. You will experience quite a variety. I have been all over Europe. The body type will be distinctly different from what you are used to. I have never been to Asia but have the same urge.
I hope to hit St. Maarten on an island hopping adventure sometime next year. I have been there on a cruise twice when I was married. I liked the vibe there, but could not sneak away for any fun.
Good luck and keep up the good work.
It was only after meeting you that I started to follow your adventures on this thread and always enjoyed your good reports! Even the most seasoned mongers are subject to foilibles and misadventures. We are only "human" and after reading your latest report, I am reminded of and laugh at my own "experiences".
Keep up the great work and I look forward to future adventures in your travels!
LB
Zing, your latest reports look like firework to celebrate one year of mongering!
Like me, I think all the readers have enjoyed your adventures all year round. Meeting you made it even more enjoying. At least I could put a face on the character!
You allowed us to live your experience starting from a first timer suffering from 40 years of lack of sex to a true mongering expert. Any experienced monger feels with you and also learns a lot. Plenty of not mongerers will be encouraged to follow your steps. I can't wait to read your next adventures, especially the FKK experience.
Thanks again
Routard
Fantastic summary, Zing.
You have sure come a long way since some of your first posts:
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=1801[/url]
Zing has, in one year, grown past the hobby and sport stages and discovered the fine art of mongering.
I tip my hat to a fine monger! Thanks for all your great contributions to this board.
pogo
thanks for all the nice feedback.
today I learned that sunday, oct 1, is the happy hour party at defiance. I think this is once a month, probably the first sunday of the month. i was present at the last party and it was great. i recommend this party. it starts in the afternoon, but I suggest that about 5pm is the right time to go.
-zing
today: joanna maria at seamans (rm 15) and alexandra at defiance (RM 211). recommended for very hot sex. see previous reports. andrea at seamans (also in rm 15), recommended for very hot body and fun personality. don't know about the sex yet!
Day 1 –arrived in st Martin about 4pm checked in Divi Beach Resort. Nice clean hotel. Great off season price under $100- a night, with balcony on the beach. Safe parking 7 minutes from Carolina at night. 20 minutes and off to mongering.
Zing-thanks for the reminder of dia de amour y amistad- got a lot of mileage out of 4 boxes of chocolate---
Went directly to Casa Blanca to check out one of Zings favoritas Nancy rm#1 great sex for a first time meeting. She is a dark skinned dominicana. Nice time.
While my sperm count was still high I went directly to seaman’s. I was looking around, lots of chicas and few men (great odds) and spotted a light skinned dominicana named Cecelia rm#5. She was rather explicit in her menu of sexual offerings and quoted a very fair price $50- for basically any orifice. We had a wild time and she must have just received a new set of energizer batteries as we had some intense sex. One hour later I was dripping wet when done and ready for CPR. No amour no GFE just great straight up sex.
Sex is like Chinese food after eating 20 minutes later you are hungry again.
So off to Carolinas I went. I read about Beatriz in room 12 from zings reports and I went to her room . When I saw her she remembered me and I her as she was the girl that I reported on in my 7/28 report. She is a Columbiana with black hair/magenta highlights and slightly curly hair. she was previously in room 2 or 3. The fellow behind the desk in July said she gave a great bj- that was my experience in July. Now we expanded on that and had some wonderful sex for a second time.
Repeat performances are always better as long as you treat the chicas like ladies and are warm and show a modicum of interest and respect for them. One chica I spoke to works in a hotel as a receptionist 6-10 hour days /60 hours a week for $220 a MONTH.
So you can understand their reason for working—they are people who are many times single parents and need of a kick start to get their life on track.
5am wakeup 4 hours flying 4 hours sex one dead monger off to bed
Day 2--My favorite place is Carolinas. I believe it and seaman’s are the safest- Carolinas is newer and cleaner than any other house.
The atmosphere is brighter and I like the way the owner treats the chicas.
Went to Carolina to meet zing. We recognized each other immediately, however at 11:15 Carolinas was closed even through the restaurant.
Not to let the sperm count build any further we went off to Seaman’s.
Zing introduced me to an array of beauties including a chica with amazing 6 pack abs and a fantastic chest-I was ready to go for her but I believe she was the one that did everything covered and I’m not into a cbj. I will never cim without permission but of course many girls have heard that before so I can’t blame her. Zing mentioned Joanna-Maria. He said she was wild in bed.
Zing disappeared with a chica and I immediately went for a ride on the wild side. An hour or so later I crawled back to the bar to find Zing. Joanna-Maria es muy muy interesante
I am not sure about the chronology but I believe we went back to Carolinas where zing found one of his favoritas and I went with another chica Sofia rm #7 teriffic rack slim waist medium face -very good sex for a first time- i would have gone again another day.
Back with zing and we went off to defiance. I had never stopped there as I usually hang out at Carolinas and find much talent there. The only problem with making one place home is the chica telegraph. Once you have dated a chica a few times the girls act as they have a priority interest in you. Many times other chicas will avoid you and if you go with another chica, when you go back to one of your regulars you loose a lot of the GFE you have developed. One chica even refused to do a tln with me after she found out I did a session with another chica. Another time I told the chica, lets say chica z not to tell chica x that we were in the room. Even though chica z was very good about not telling or even making further eye contact, two other chicas that saw me go into the room with z told x and there was hell to pay.
Back to defiance- a real old time Brothel like in the movies.
Zing and I stopped at the little restaurant for a sandwich outside defiance in the parking lot. You don’t want to be full and do heavy mongering. He introduced me to Alexandra rm# 211. I will do her another day.
Zing had a 4pm session scheduled with one of his favoritas and we parted.
Agreeing to meet in 2 days at 11 am.
Back to Carolinas.
(ps, as at Casa Blanca the doctor comes to Carolina starting at 4pm so on Mondays the girls who are usually off have to stay until they see the doctor)
I was sitting in Carolinas and a chica flashed me a smile. A very exotic looking light skinned Columbiana. I told her last night that we would get together today.
WOW what a wicked smiling mouth. Glowing red natural full lips. Nice chest and cleavage. She had long beautiful black hair nicely quaffed. Golden/hazel eyes. I smiled at her and she came over. I have never felt a woman with skin as soft as hers. She had really just arrived 2 days prior. (many chicas say they just arrived so you think they are new to the trade but is all part of the fantasy) She hugged me and we talked for a few minutes and back we went. I really don’t wish to get into details but for the next 5 days we were inseparable. TLN every night and days too. She is a real woman and I had the most wonderful romantic time I have had in many years. No crazy sex, no toys, no anal.
Just mucho mucho Amour. We spent her off hours at the beach, Jacuzzi, driving around the island, dinner, and doing errands. She is most unique and
wonderful person. I would normally keep her info to myself but she is working for her future so—IF YOU DO VISIT WITH HER PLEASE DO NOT MENTION THIS NOTE. and be kind and gentle to her- you will be rewarded for your kindness---- Melissa rm#14. You can arrange for a Multa for the day also, but day and night is expensive when you add in a fair amount of $$ for your lady. i was supposed to meet zing again at 11 -11:30 2 days later but we slept till 2pm. Sorry zing but I was muy occupado-we will meet up soon.
Two days in a row Melissa and I we went back to Carolinas for a change of clothes. At around 4pm, it is the girls time off until 7pm. I took a few girls into town. One in particular has a fantastic chest , thin, slim figure,and braces on her teeth. She has full lips and a broad smile , I would have loved to do a session with her just to feel her body----anyway. We went around town me (an old fat guy) and 3 drop dead looking girls.
We were all laughing at the guys looking at us walking around and getting thumbs up. We had particular fun watching the married guys with their wives trying to look but afraid to turn their heads. If felt great.
Took them all out to dinner at the restaurant in front of bobby’s marina.
It seems that most of the girls rarely stray from their “rooms” and are unfamiliar with anything but Philipsburg so a lunch, trip to the beach, or a ride around the island will earn you many points. Think about being in a room, and nothing to see or do except have sex with anyone who has the $$$ and nothing else to do for 3 months. Any kindness is much appreciated ,if sincere.
Speaking of the girl with braces they stopped at a store on back street and she came back with a pair of hot pink, hot pants smaller than half a sheet of copy paper. I saw her Friday night dancing wearing these, I wanted to go onto the stage and eat them off of her.
Incidentally, Friday, Saturday , and Sunday nights are dancing nights and all girl must dance or pay a $40- fine unless they are tln.
That’s all folks
MEL365
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I believe I found a great deal for auto rental.
I pay $20-$25 a day insurance included from Wally car. They are on the French side but will pickup and deliver anywhere,
Mel 365
[QUOTE=Mel365]Just mucho mucho Amour. We spent her off hours at the beach, Jacuzzi, driving around the island, dinner, and doing errands. She is most unique and wonderful person. I would normally keep her info to myself but she is working for her future so—IF YOU DO VISIT WITH HER PLEASE DO NOT MENTION THIS NOTE. and be kind and gentle to her- you will be rewarded for your kindness---- Melissa rm#12. Sorry zing but I was muy occupado-we will meet up soon.[/QUOTE]
Excellent reporting and wonderful experience. No problem with standing me up - I am just glad that the girls I recommended also were good for you (on the other hand, that implies that I am not as special to them as I thought....) I had a great time without you, as you can read in my report below. And the girls told me that you were on a multi-day honeymoon with a single girl. I'll see you when I get back from vacation (obvious question: why would you take a vacation from the St Maarten area and the chicas? answer: for family).
-zing
I am sure when I get back to St Martin in 6 weeks you will have a great list of "samplers" for me to test drive.
I hope that girl in 211 at Defiance will be there when I get there.
Mel 365
today:
cecilia at seamans club, rm 5, as recommended by mel365. colombiana from santa marta, a town with many beaches which is between cartagena and baranquilla (home of shakira and miss colombia!). capable of wild PSE per mel365, but also capable of excellent GFE. BBBJ, DATY, CFS, offered anal but I did not try this time. all natural (no implants). long dark pair, morena skin between dark and light. wide eyes, face and eyebrows, nice breasts and body. i think she can adapt nicely to any guy.
update: I just noticed that there is another report on cecilia way back on aug 6 and i even tried to find her at that time! i guess she will be leaving soon then.
carolina club: met new girl Melissa that mel365 spent 4.5 days with. a knockout. incredible, unusual grey eyes (I think, I was distracted by her body). acts very sweet, although I did not go to the room as I had an appt with Beatriz (not as beautiful as Melissa, but incredible service and sweet also - beatriz leaves oct 20 she said).
-zing
Hey there,
I am coming to St. Maarten at the end of OCT on a cruise. I will arrive in the morning. Any information would be helpful as to which places are open in the morning and early afternoon hours. Will there be cabs back and fourth from the docks to the bars. Can I tell the cab driver where I want to go, how much for the cab ride ect. What can I expect to pay at the club for FS. Any information would be helpful.
Hey there
From the cruise ship to "Seamans Club" or "Carolinas" is maybe 1.5 - 2 miles. It shouldn't cost more than $5 or $10 (taxis tend to be a rip off). Expect to pay $40 for CFS.
[QUOTE=Aceshadow01]I am coming to St. Maarten at the end of OCT on a cruise. I will arrive in the morning. Any information would be helpful as to which places are open in the morning and early afternoon hours...[/QUOTE]
Good answer Sxmperson. Also, seamans and carolina open at 11am. all other questions are answered [url=http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=426807&postcount=3]here.[/url]
[QUOTE=Mel365]I was sitting in Carolinas and a chica flashed me a smile. A very exotic looking light skinned Columbiana.
WOW what a wicked smiling mouth. Glowing red natural full lips. Nice chest and cleavage. She had long beautiful black hair nicely quaffed. Golden/hazel eyes. I smiled at her and she came over.
IF YOU DO VISIT WITH HER PLEASE DO NOT MENTION THIS NOTE. and be kind and gentle to her- you will be rewarded for your kindness---- Melissa rm#12. [/QUOTE]
I have been checking my notes from my meeting with Mel365 and I find a citation for Melissa in ROOM 14 at Carlina, not 12. And I have been visiting Beatriz and Luna in rm 12 for hours at a time (a fanastic duo), so I don't think Melissa can be in the same room. I think Mel must have gotten confused because he spent all his time with Melissa in the hotel, not in her room!
Zing-
thanks for the correction.
mel365
I believe I have corrected my errors in the report #370, however I stilll can't remember what order I went with Sofia and Beatriz.
But they are both good for round 3,4,5, 6 and more.
I am sure after round 6 or 7 with Beatrix Zing is enjoying the fruits of his labors.
mel 365
I went to st maarten today and visited with lucero again at seamans, then beatriz and luna together at carolina (these two are my favorites since I started this hobby). excellent chicas.
nothing new to report, except bad news: the girls are getting desperate because there are few customers right now (mid sept until oct 15 at least) and they aren't making enough to pay their room rent, let alone send money home for their families. they are getting bored and bitchy and attacking each other over imagined slights. it is ugly.
beatriz and luna did not complain (although they agreed with the assessment - no one in the bar at all on sunday night). all the other girls are crying the blues. some mongers might take advantage of this situation, but i felt very sorry for the girls and left $20 bills with my favoritas around town, even though we didn't do a session today.
-zing
Lucero again? How is she treating you?
[QUOTE=Sxmperson101]Lucero again? How is she treating you?[/QUOTE]
Lucero is treating me Great - bbbj, an hour in the room, very affectionate, excellent cfs. of course I gave her a good massage and I pay well and I brought her a small gift. Since there is so little business for the girls, and her problems were causing her tension and tight muscles, she called the visit from me her "angel in answer to her prayers".
-zing
i do not understand why you guys do not include more of what petit chateau has on offer. the place might not be as tidy as the others but the chicas there are all very pleasant, beautiful women.
paid a quick visit two nights ago and went straight for one of the black colombianas with a huge ass. as an experienced anal explorer i know this is not the best target for my kind of action but i went over anyway and said i was interested in some 'culo'. she smile at me and said she was sorry but she could not offer that kind of service, but she had a friend who was interested.
her friend turned out to be a slim, six-footer about 21-23 who told me her name was desire. i dont usually go for the taller ladies but i said what the heck and after agreeing on a fee of 45 bucks including 5 for the room, she took me by the hand to a room just across the way from the area where the room cashier sits.
before i had the chance to take my shirt off desire was all over me. she turned up the reggaeton music real loud pulled down my pants and underwear and went straight for my cock and asshole. never had a rim job while i was still standing in my life but she sure went for it, sticking her tongue up my ass while she jerked my cock.
she reached for a cupboard and pulled out a leather whip which i promptly told her was something i was not interested in, so she slapped my butt and threw me to the bed where she assaulted by cock and ass for several minutes before i grabbed her wrists and put her under me.
she took this as the cue to reach for the ky which she had taken from the cupboard together with the whip. put a huge dab of ky on her fingers and lubed that ass until i stuck my finger in as well. just right. not too loose and just right.
she raised her legs over her shoulders and licked her lips. before i knew it i was pumping that ass for all its worth. there is nothing better than hearing a chica cry out for more while you are balls deep in her ass. i was afraid that the fat guy near the cashier would hear her and come over to rescue her. so i slowed down and she sat on top of me, making sure that my cock entered the right hole since the natural position allows entry into the other sweet hole as well. what a delightful assfuck!
then she carefully pulled off the condom and licked the dribble of cum that oozed out even after i thought i had emptied my cum sac. i followed her to the bathroom where she took a [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url] and washed her ass. she bent over and showed me how she could gape her asshole at will.
i felt like going another time with her right there and then, but i did not think i had enough energy for another session. i am still in st. maarten this week and plan to make saturday night a special one with desire.
viva petit chateau!!!!!
I was wondering if any of you would be kind enough to give me an update on what the Strip-Club scene is like right now in St. Maarten. I am heading up there in a couple of weeks with a bunch of friends. I am not really interested in mongering on this particular trip, as I have never been to St. Maarten before. I know the one most everyone goes to is called the Platinum Room. Are there any others on the island? Where are they located? What is the cost of a lap dance, private dance, what are the girls like, etc. Do any of these places allow any touching, etc. Thanks!
[QUOTE=Senneca01]I was wondering if any of you would be kind enough to give me an update on what the Strip-Club scene is like right now in St. Maarten. I am heading up there in a couple of weeks with a bunch of friends. I am not really interested in mongering on this particular trip, as I have never been to St. Maarten before. I know the one most everyone goes to is called the Platinum Room. Are there any others on the island? Where are they located? What is the cost of a lap dance, private dance, what are the girls like, etc. Do any of these places allow any touching, etc. Thanks![/QUOTE]
see [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=399340&postcount=50]Routard's summary of st maarten[/url] - i don't think anything has changed. Golden Eyes is located across the street from MacDonalds by the drawbridge in Simpson Bay. I see a new place advertized in the paper, Bada Bing, by the airport runway - you can be the first to try it! According to past reports, Golden Eyes is more relaxed about what goes on in a private lap dance, but I don't know that from personal experience.
-zing
I'm not into stripclubs and my opinion is that it is not the topic of this forum, as ISG is about sex. However, I sometimes have to go to Platinum with business partners for professional reason (I have a hard job!). It's easy to find, in the Maho Beach Resort near the casino and opens every night from 10.30 pm till 5am.They have even a website: [url]www.theplatinumroom.com[/url]. Platinum room (tel. 557 0055) is very upscale, there are about 30 girls, nearly all are white, young and beautiful, most from Eastern Europe and Canada. Most customers are tourists. Price is 20$ for a lapdance with G string and 30$ for a private nude lap dance in a VIP area. The VIP area has comfortable sofas and allows some intimacy with curtains, but it's not a private closed room like cabins. Touching is allowed except pussy. It's hard to get more inside the club. However one of my business partner once brought a girl back at his hotelroom after closing time. Not all girls will do this and there is no exact pricing for this, but expect to pay plenty of $$$. I consider all this as a waiste of money, as I'm used to fuck the same quality of girls in German FKK for nearly the same price as the private lapdance.
A similar stripclub is Golden Eyes (tel. 527 1079) at Simpson Bay Village, right near the bridge. It opens also everyday from 10pm till 5am and they have also a website [url]www.goldeneyesclub.com[/url]. I can't comment as I've never been, but I have been told that it is as good as Platinum, a classy club with plenty of young and beautiful white girls.
I saw a few advertisement too about Bada Bing at the old Airport Inn next to the runway. It's a new stripclub and it opens from 10pm till 5am, but can't comment further about it.
It seems that Solid Gold (tel. 545 4601) at Atlantis World Casino in Cupecoy Mullet Bay is closed, as I don't see any advertising anymore about them.
The French side has one stripclub only, Crazy Paradise 2 rue Victor Maurasse Marigot 97150 Marigot (Tel. 0690 88 96 98), open every day except Sunday. I've never been, but as it's under French regulation, it is most probably similar to the other clubs in FWI like Extase in Gosier Guadeloupe, with mostly Canadian girls and touching is not allowed.
There was also a more Caribbean styled stripclub named Cat's, on the road along the northern side of the Salt Pond. Most girls here were black Caribbean girls (Jamaica, Trinidad, Dominican Republic....) that did "Todo La Noche" after closing time. But last time I went it was closed and it didn't look like it would reopen again.
And if you want to try a real hard core stripclub, go to Casablanca, the white house on the top of the hill on the left handside of the road going to Phillipsburg just when exiting Oyster Pond. Watch out, this place is not for the shy or the romantic dreamer! About 30 girls, not exactly as classy and beautifull than at Platinum room and nearly all from Dominican Republic. Entrance is free, drinks are cheap and there is a stripshow on the bar every half hour on a Reggeaton rythm. Most customers are locals. Expect the girls to be pushy, as they want to get you inside the room for a private "dance" for 45$. Touching is allowed during fucking! :D
I am Friendly with one of the owners of one of the Brothels and we went to bada bing . We were guests of the owner of that club. They had some cute Rumanian and Polish girls that would give you a nice lap dance. I am not interested in lap dancing unless it leads to sex which at that club it does not. We just sat around and looked at the talent for a couple of hours, had a few drinks and then went back to the brothel for some reasonably priced sex.
Mel365
I was taking out a chica from Carolina named Luna last April (one of many Lunas).
We went to the disco at sunset beach and were dancing when a bunch of the girls from Platinum showed up after closing. They were asked to get up on the stage at the disco and dance. The manager noticed my date both in her incredibly hot body and the way she could dance, unbelievable movement, and took one of the Platinum dancers off the stage and asked Luna to dance. It felt great having the hottest chica in the disco. (the place was jammed) –why go for a lap dance when you can get the real thing?
Mel 365.
I will be in St Martin 10/14-10/18.
anyone interested in getting together please pm me.
mel 365
Was visiting Defiance on Sunday Oct 1 and witnessed a "pool party" from 4 to 7PM. I was told they do it once a month. Basically, it started with all girls wearing their best swimsuits (or less) and hanging out/dancing near the pool. They had music and a photographer to do "glamour" shots of the girls. Cover charge $10, which includes 1 beer.
I had to leave early, when the action was just beginning, so now I'm curious if anyone was there and can share more info or pictures.
Anyway, by 4:30 the place was full of locals (many scary looking locals), so it looked to me like they knew in advance about the event.
Does anyone know anything about the next time?
[QUOTE=Lucky Strike]Was visiting Defiance on Sunday Oct 1 and witnessed a "pool party" from 4 to 7PM. I was told they do it once a month. Basically, it started with all girls wearing their best swimsuits (or less) and hanging out/dancing near the pool. They had music and a photographer to do "glamour" shots of the girls. Cover charge $10, which includes 1 beer.
I had to leave early, when the action was just beginning, so now I'm curious if anyone was there and can share more info or pictures.
Anyway, by 4:30 the place was full of locals (many scary looking locals), so it looked to me like they knew in advance about the event.
Does anyone know anything about the next time?[/QUOTE]
I went to the last party which was on the first sunday in sept, so i think they have a special party the the first sunday of each month. this is a good opportunity to see all the girls and get phone numbers. when you go in the afternoon you only see a few of them. i usually cannot arrange to go in the evening, but i would like to know more girls. afternoon is nice because the girls can leave without a bar fine, can take you to the room for 3 hours if they so desire, etc.
-zing
Defiance has a pool??? I never knew that. I guess my eyes and mind are on other things while I am there.
Looks like my mongering season is about to start. I should be in SXM 10/27 - 11/01. Anyone else gonna be there?
pogo
Hey guys,
At this time in the season, what price should one expect to pay for a TLN? Is it cheaper if you leave later at night rather than earlier in the day? I've seen quite a few different numbers. If it helps any, I'm not an abnormal looking guy or anything!
I will be in SXM 10/25 - 10/30 for a short vacation. Ball and chain will be in evidence however I have a spare key. I will be hosted by the French but intend to party a little with the Dutch. A partner in crime for a few brews while we pursue the sport may be nice.
[QUOTE=Sxmperson101]Hey guys,
At this time in the season, what price should one expect to pay for a TLN? Is it cheaper if you leave later at night rather than earlier in the day? I've seen quite a few different numbers. If it helps any, I'm not an abnormal looking guy or anything![/QUOTE]
this is a VERY quiet time of year for most of the girls, until the cruise ships return around oct 19 and the hotel guests around nov 22.
unless the girl is knockout gorgeous and always busy, i would think that TLN in oct should be about $150 us. most girls are spending the night in the bar with only 0, 1 or 2 clients, so $150 plus bar fine should be a positive gain. of course they will ask for $300 US to start.
by the way, bar fine is cheaper at carolina than at seamans.
and this is only my guess, since i haven't ever done TLN myself!
-zing
Hey Zing!
As always, thank you for the advice. Do you know what the bar fines are for the two (Seamans' and Carolinas)? I ask b/c I've still only ever been in Seamans. Also, would I be correct to assume that the girl would be relatively discreet if you meet people out? Like, if you two are at a restaurant and someone asks her what she does, she wouldn't say "Oh, I'm essentially a prostitute at Seaman's club!" :-) ?
Hi guys,
I'm thinking of trying out SXM for a long weekend, probably the first in November. Before I reserve a room, I was wondering if there are some hotels/resorts I should avoid as non girl friendly. I plan to travel alone, and would like the option of TLN.
Thanks.
MC
[QUOTE=Sxmperson101]Hey Zing!
As always, thank you for the advice. Do you know what the bar fines are for the two (Seamans' and Carolinas)? I ask b/c I've still only ever been in Seamans. Also, would I be correct to assume that the girl would be relatively discreet if you meet people out? Like, if you two are at a restaurant and someone asks her what she does, she wouldn't say "Oh, I'm essentially a prostitute at Seaman's club!" :-) ?[/QUOTE]
i have never done TLN, but
I have taken the girls out shopping and to the beach in the afternoon and they have always been very discrete, and dressed appropriately. Of course, the Indian salesman at the jewelry store probably knew what they were - he had learned a little Spanish and did his sales pitch to the girl in Spanish. But the girls acted just like normal girls and the salesman treated them the same in return.
The bar fines are in Routards summary of St Maarten - like $35 at carolina for 1/2 day and $65 at seamans (although there is a sign on the bar in spanish that impiles it might have gone up to $100). If you are thinking TLN, I would first go to carolina. The girls there are very nice. It is just around the corner from seamans - down Edge rd, next side road where the chinese grocery is, turn left, crystal club is on one side of the street and carolina is on the other, in a big building with a restaurant and a beauty salon.
By the way, the girl will start asking for $300 and you can counter offer. This was all discussed a few weeks ago in this thread.
-zing
[QUOTE=Mikecnyc]Hi guys,
I'm thinking of trying out SXM for a long weekend, probably the first in November. Before I reserve a room, I was wondering if there are some hotels/resorts I should avoid as non girl friendly. I plan to travel alone, and would like the option of TLN.
Thanks.
MC[/QUOTE]
most hotels are chica friendly. read routards report in the reports of distinction,
[url=http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=426807&postcount=3]here.[/url]
[QUOTE=Zing23]most hotels are chica friendly. read routards report in the reports of distinction,
[url=http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=426807&postcount=3]here.[/url][/QUOTE]And if they aren't, just say "HOW DARE you call my wife, of five years, that!!"
Hello All,
This site is a great resource. Should make this visit more fruitful.
The pool party sounds great…that is a must attend. Thx all for that tip!
I will be in SXM 10/28 - 11/4 for some fun in the sun.
If anyone wants to meet up let me know.
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Hi All,
This site is a great resource. Should make this visit more fruitful.
The pool party sounds great, that is a must attend. Thx all for that tip!
I will be in SXM 10/28 - 11/4 for some fun in the sun.
If anyone wants to meet up let me know.
Got off the plane and went straight to Defiance to check out Alexandra # 211 (as per previous meeting with Zing). Going out with a chica immediately after getting off a plane is like letting children play with guns. You never know when the gun will go off.
I had a great but short session with her.
Great BBBJ CIM and other moist nice moving parts.
Being the hound dog that I am;
I then went to Carolina to meet with mi amour Melissa.
She is as beautiful as I remember. In the dark bar however, I walked right past her.
I then went into the back looking for her in room #14 and she hid in another room.
When I called her she said she was sick and at the doctor. She then appeared from one of the other rooms we had a good laugh over that. She knew I was coming into SXM and had been waiting for me. I spent the next 4 days and nights with her. We had a fantastic time, boyfriend girlfriend date. NO MENTION of This to Her would be Appreciated as I plan on spending more time with her. She is a Very sweet person with a very sad life story (which I believe) intelligent and classy. This will probably be her first and last time to St martin. while I was at Carolinas I said hi to Beatrix and Luna for zing I can understand why he does doubles with them. having been with beatrix twice I can see what a dynamic duo they make.
As a ps no one is going to ask who you are out shopping with or having dinner with. we walk right up to the front desks of hotels and no questions are asked. It just doesn’t happen.
The multa at Carolina is $45 for the day or night and $90 for 24 hours. That is of course if you can arrange it with the bartender, or the guy or gal at the desk in the back seating area. Mondays they must wait at Carolina as at Casa Blanca for the doctor. When they are busy they like the girls to work until at least midnight and particularly during the day when the cruise ships are in.
There were two cruise ships in port when I was there so the bar was busy and I had to negotiate $$$ to get permission for Melissa to leave with me..
With respect to hotels, it is important that the hotel you pick has lighted parking near the hotel. Some hotels on Front Street have no parking and are creepy at night.
A car is mandatory for mongering.
I had a chance to drop by Petite chateau and check out Desire, Alan’s description was spot on.
Nice thin tall light brown chica, nice chest, blond tight curly permanent hairdo, great parts , any hole , and a fantastic laugh very pleasant woman. The Chateau is a DUMP definitely not a place to go to in the night.
The girl belongs at either Seaman’s or Carolina. I believe the cutest and youngest Chicas are at Carolinas , They are mostly Columbianas.
My impression however is that the chicas at Seaman’s can be a little kinkier, experienced, and more “professional” with a larger smattering of Dominicanas.
When I left today, I had a few minutes to kill so I dropped by Seaman’s as I would be dead meat if I took out another chica from Carolina. Additionally I would not want to hurt Melissa’s Feelings as we have something special going on. It is unfortunate that I am such a hound dog.
There is one chica however that I must take out from Carolina. A 10 body and face, tall with braces. Some way next month, I will engineer that. Back to seaman’s, while the parking lot was empty the bar had a fair number of chicas and customers. All the super stars on my and zings list were with men.
They were either at the bar or in the room. Johanna Marie was in the room, Ximenia was headed off to a room with a client as I said hello in passing and said hi for zing, Cecelia was also at the bar and occupied. She said she was leaving November 3-4 so check her out before she goes.
I spotted a nicely shaped chica named Carmella room #12 and we spent what remaining time I had in the room about an hour. I would go with her again. She had a lot of energy. After 4 days of non-stop sex, I was surprised everything still worked.
With respect to the cost of a TLN, it really depends on how you handle the negotiations.
I believe these women are doing a very difficult job and are required to have sex with anyone who has the $$$. The girls tell me that some particularly the French smell so badly that the girls choke from the smell. Many of the Indians have a forest growing below the belt. Being dressed well, spanking clean and well groomed really scores points.
So what is the difference between lets say $150 TLN and $200-TLN possibly a mechanical nights fuck or a wonderful night of romance and fantastic hot sex.
I would go for the latter. Check your chica out in the room and if you are simpatico –Go for it.
Mel
Mel,
Great write up! As always!
Sxmperson
Nice report Mel!
It looks like you are a fine monger, like Zing, that is in it for the experience and the art of the hobby....not just trying to get the cheapest pussy possible.
I never argue price, I just try to get the best experience. It amazes me that some mongers will drop thousands to get to the action and then try to squeeze some poor hardworking chica out of a few bucks. These girls give everything they have to us for less than the price of a moderate dinner. They deserve their asking price and a tip. Zing goes even farther with personal gifts...and look at the fun he has had in the last year.
It is nice to hear that there are some good girls on island now. My travel season is starting and I will be there in a week. It has been a long summer being away from heaven and stuck in the US sex hell. I'm sure my first couple sessions will also be like children with guns. The little stick is quivering with anticipation. It's been TOO FREAKING LONG!!!!
Been learning alot reading all these fantastic reports but I've been going nucking futs wanting to be there myself!
Anyone gonna be there the 26th to the 31st...drop me a note. First beer is on me.
pogo
ps Stock tip: Buy latex stocks. I think they will have exceptional sales at the retail level in about a week. Just a hunch. As with any investment, don't ask me cause I'm clueless but I will be staying in a Holiday Inn Express tomorrow.
mel- great report. for me it is fun reading your report while i am visiting the usa and missing st maarten. in nov i will be back and try to support the team effort. -zing
I should be back in St Martin about November 8.
please Pm me if you would like to hook up.
mel
When you get to Carolinas please look for a girl with an absolutely fantastic figure,
great chest, slim waist and nice hips tallish with BRACES broad smile..
I would love to know her name and telephone number for some extra curricular activities. If i ask any of the Chicas at Carolina i am dead meat with my regular chica.
Please ask around –help a fellow monger out.
Mel
[QUOTE=Mel365]When you get to Carolinas please look for a girl with an absolutely fantastic figure,
great chest, slim waist and nice hips tallish with BRACES broad smile..
I would love to know her name and telephone number for some extra curricular activities. If i ask any of the Chicas at Carolina i am dead meat with my regular chica.
Please ask around –help a fellow monger out.
Mel[/QUOTE]
I'll do my best to help!
Forgot to mention carmella is in seamans room #12.
mel
[QUOTE=Mel365]She is a Very sweet person with a very sad life story (which I believe) intelligent and classy. This will probably be her first and last time to St martin. [/QUOTE]I have been away from my latina sweethearts for 16 days and 8 hours, visiting in the usa. I keep waking up in the middle of the night remembering one or the another of them, with a giant hard-on and a extreme sense of loss. I am irritable, and think about them all the time...
Yes some may be superficial and money-grubbing and manipulative, but they are the exceptions. Generally, the latina girls I have known in st maarten over the last year have been sweet, consistently concerned that I am happy, unreservably emotional and excited by small favors and presents, and just amazingly nice, considering the work that they do.
The last day before this trip to the usa, beatriz and I took her roommate luna shopping in st maarten for her birthday. I gave her a French birthday card that played the happy birthday song when you opened it, and a bit of money to go shopping with. we went out to phillispburg and had a great time. after luna bought a watch for her birthday in a jewelry store on front street, beatriz dragged her to a small department store for a surprise and put in $20 of her own money to buy luna a big stuffed bear - this combined with the $20 that luna had left was $2 short so beatriz just asked me naturally for $2 to complete the deal. This is the most that she has ever asked me for.
tonight i was watching Austin City Limits on PBS. Ther performer was Juanes from Colombia. I have all 3 of his cds, recommended by chicas, and have given away 20 or 30 copies to girls in st maarten, and made love to at least 6 of them to his music. This is a Latino singer who refuses to sing in English, only in Spanish, is very intense and is very accessible for non latinos, since his style is rock but his content is colombian. very sincere. as I watched the cute latina girls in the audience clap and sing along and jump up on the stage and kiss him, I kept seeing my favorites in them. When Juanes sang Rosario Tejeras, I realized that this young man from Medellin had written the theme song for this movie from Medellin about the working girl who becomes a professional hit woman. The intensity of his pride of home town made me remember all the Colombian girls and how proud they were of their home towns.
I have spent a year with these girls, with only one previous break, which was for a trip to a latin country, so that doesn't count. this is the first real break.
it is very hard.
-zing
Zing,
i have been back in the USA 3 days and i miss my girl soooo much.
i guess i am just a classic lover of woman.
i truly enjoy their company and their sweetness.
these columbianas are a very special breed.
see ya soon
mel
Zing,
I feel your pain, my friend. I have been in sex prison since my last trip to Aruba in July. It's pure torture. When I see young Latinas around here in the US I can only fantasize...wishing I was seeing them in SXM where I could enjoy their company instead of in the US where I can only look and dream.
But there is always light at the end of the tunnel, and your return to the game will only be much sweeter when it happens.
Approximately 100 hours before I shall again taste the sweet fruit of Latina loving. SXM this Thursday, with Aruba and Curacao soon to follow. The clouds are parting, the sun will soon shine. It has been too long, but that just adds to the excitment of the return.
This season, thanks to you, I will have a different approach to the hobby and I know it will be even more exciting. I will certainly check out those that have been recommended (with total discretion assured) and will find new treasures to recommend to the board.
Hang in there Zing....you can do it. Of course with some of your upcoming travel I don't think you will be too lonely for too long. I look forward to hearing about how other parts of the world compare to our little slice of heaven.
pogo
I will be heading down Saturday am. I can't wait.
Mel, Zing, would you guys have like a 'cheat sheet' of girls you would recommend, ranked in order of your preference that you would visit (bbbj gets extra points)?
It would be nice to hit the ground running.
This will be so different than when I was on the island for the first time about 8 years ago with the X. I was on my own sneaking away and trying to find these places.
I remember the first time I finally found defiance haven and walked in by myself late at night.
I was scared s*it not knowing what to expect (the parking lot is a little intimidating) and i am not a small guy but when you are by yourself and don't know the deal it sux.
This should be a totally different story. I will be well informed.
I am now a paid member so pm me if you will be there from 10/28 - 11/4.
Thanks to all for the info.
I will share a full report when I get back.
Hello Everyone,
I trying to get current information on ST. Maaten, rates per hour/night. Friendly hotels etc, etc. Thanks in advance for your help. Thinking about heading down 11/28 - 12/03
Does anyone have any pictures of the girl's mentioned to help with identifying them?
Abstinence or extra activity?
I have a girlfriend coming home tonight after traveling for a few weeks.
Should I jump her as many times as i can until Saturday or should i go easy and save myself for SXM?
I think if I abstain for too long my sex drive goes down.
What does everyone think?
Does anyone have any tricks to raise the sex drive for a week of non stop sex? I want to get in as many sessions as the body will allow.
[QUOTE=Draday97]Hello Everyone,
I trying to get current information on ST. Maaten, rates per hour/night. Friendly hotels etc, etc. Thanks in advance for your help. Thinking about heading down 11/28 - 12/03[/QUOTE]
Read [url=http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=426807&postcount=3]this report[/url] and click on the links for all answers. nothing much has changed.
-zing
[QUOTE=SlickRick1007]Mel, Zing, would you guys have like a 'cheat sheet' of girls you would recommend, ranked in order of your preference that you would visit (bbbj gets extra points)?[/QUOTE]
Recommended from my personal experience for very sexy encounter, including bbbj:
Seamans - Joanna Maria and Cecelia.
Carolina - Luna and Estefania
Defiance - Alexandra, rm 211.
Casa Blanca - little Nancy in rm 1.
-zing
p.s. I should be in St Maarten clubs wed Nov 1, 11am to 4pm.
[QUOTE=Zing23]
-zing
p.s. I should be in St Maarten clubs wed Nov 1, 11am to 4pm.[/QUOTE]
Dang Zing....missing you by a couple hours again. I leave a bit before 10 on the 1st.
pogo
Less than 24 hours until a sweet chica will be putting a smile on my face!
Dang it's been a long summer.
pogo
or maybe you will be putting your smile somewhere else.
i should be there 11/8 getting excited already.
mel
was in sex prison for nearly two month and had even to face a long lasting sex strike at home. this was an emergency situation, and when i arrived in saint maarten, i took my renting car and rushed straight to the brothels. i arrived at opening time at carolina and found that things had changed around. tennis court have been built on the empty space on the right side of the building, road have been paved and parking lot have been created. but i didn’t really matter, most important is inside of course. i entered the empty club and checked the login register on the bar. i love to be there at 11am and wait for the girls to line-up for registering, it gives a complete overview of the available girls. unfortunately, already 20 girls had signed in before i arrived. i ordered a drink and waited for the other girls.
next girl arriving in the bar was milena (room 15). she signed in, smiled at me and introduced herself. she didn’t really fancy me, but i was horny to death and i knew any girl could catch me. i could have grabbed her an fucked her straight up, but then i realized that she had a real nice face, and an interesting personality. we took our time to know each other, had a drink together and discussed. i preferred to be frankly with her, and explained that i have not had sex for almost 2 month. i apologized if i had problems focusing on the person and was just hungry for sex. she smiled, seemed surprised but promised me to take care of me, and relieve me from my pain. she was probably worried to see me going elsewhere as i could not prevent to look at each chica in the bar with hungry eyes.
once in the room, we undressed and i could hold a woman’s body again in my arms. she enjoyed feeling how sensitive i was each time my skin was touching her skin. she wanted to start to make a bj, but i begged her to stay close to me in my arms, her eyes in my eyes. she looked straight in my eyes too, and smiled. i started to kiss her, and she answered passionately. my dick was rubbing her pussy, so she preferred to put a condom. she was on top of me and i penetrated her slowly. i asked her not to move anymore and took her firmly in my arms, maximising the body surface in mutual contact. i wished those moments could last forever. i thanked her for giving me such happiness all this seemed to make her horny, and she couldn’t resist starting to move her hips. i preferred to take control over the situation and switched to missionary. i took her hands with my hands and put them on the pillow above her head. she seemed to enjoy feeling me inside her and tried to feel more of me by stretching her legs as wide as possible. my dick had never been so hard. i was surprised i had managed to keep the load until know and realized i could start to fuck her harder and harder and still get my orgasm under control. guys, what a ride! my orgasm was so loud, i hope i didn’t frighten her. what a relief! i thanked her again and she seemed honoured to be the one that gave me such a relief. she looked proudly at the enormous quantity of “leche” she managed to milk out of me. after the shower, we didn’t leave straight the room but continued talking. she showed me pictures of her children and i was happy i could focus again on herself and not on her pussy only. a nice person.
once back in the bar, i met nathalia (room 5). she didn’t remember me from last time. i knew it was needless to give her some clues about how we fucked to remember be, so i found another clue. i remembered her that she had healed a wound i had on my foot. yes, she then remembered me and smiled. i know she is a bit ch, but i like her petite teenager look. i explained that i just came from a session, wanted to have lunch and would come back again for her. she replied she would wait for me.
once back from lunch, i was surprised about the line-up. there were more than 20 pretty girls in the bar and it was only 2pm. in the morning, i had been told that the total quantity of registered girls was up to 40. it seems that carolina has become famous among the working chicas, and all girls try to chose to work at first at carolina. yes, i strongly believe that this is the key to make the business working. the chicas must have the best possible working conditions to attract the best looking girls and give the best of them which will also attract more and more customers. problem is now for the chicas that there are too much girls and not enough customers, even if i notice each time more and more western tourists among the customers. i wonder in how far also the reports on isg have helped to develop this club. yes, carolina is definitely the best club of saint maarten!
nathalia was not there, but it didn’t matter, there were enough other available options. i took a seat at the bar and noticed a quiet girl sitting next to me. she was pretty, but was not my type of girl, as i prefer them more petite. i still asked her what was her name. she answered that she was melissa (room 14). as she was the chica of a fellow isg member, i took extra care took act as the perfect gentleman. she offered me to drink from her glass and we started discussing. i discovered she was a very sweet and quiet girl. she never tried to push me to go for a session, but i became more and more interested in her. i invited her to go for a session.
we entered her room, she dimmed the light, perfumed the air and undressed. yes, she had not the type of body i liked, but i sincerely didn’t care, i focused on her personality and her pretty face. she undressed me too, asked me to lie on the bed and relax. she took some massage oil and started to give me a sensual massage. i closed my eyes and she then started to kiss me all my body. and when i say all my body, it must be taken literally. she slowly licked my balls and started to give me a bbbj. i took gently her head with my two hands and started to kiss her passionately. while we were kissing, she came on top of me and rubbed her pussy on my bare dick. i asked for mercy and she put the condom. she gave me again a short bj just to lubricate the condom and slipped it inside her wet pussy. she came again close to me and we then didn’t stop kissing during all the time we had sex. i knew it was not gfe, as she hadn’t hidden me that her heart and soul was for somebody else (you lucky guy!) but her service was simply from the highest possible quality level.
i left carolina and went to seamens to have a look. there were already more than 20 girls too in the bar. i love the atmosphere of this bar, as it was for years my favorite brothel in the caribbean. roberto the barkeeper said hello and joked with a chica that he remembers me being a regular customer for more than 5 years already. a few chicas came to have fun with me, and i made a few jokes too, but i was not interested to go further. i learned from the chicas and roberto that seamens has a project of a complete new two storey building for next year. this is definitely a scoop. it will be build on the open space near the club and the old building will be destroyed. in fact it’s a reaction against carolina. a fair competition between brothels, i love to hear that!
at first i had planned just to have a look at seamens, recover from my last session and return to carolina. but i then noticed a lovely [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url] face from a teenage looking petite doll. she was blonde with very light skin, and had surprising blue eyes, not exactly a latina type. but it was her smile that attracted me most. i approached and introduced myself. she was lorena. i had just had a session at carolina and knew it was too early for the next one, but i definitely didn’t want her to escape. i offered her a drink and i discovered the funny personality she had. we joked together and each time her lovely smile made me melting more and more. she could easily persuade me to go for a session even if it was too early. once in the room, there was more light and then she discovered i had already been with another girl, as she noticed some make-up on my face. while undressing me, she joked about it and asked if i had cleaned my dick in between. i acted as if i was shocked and confirmed her that i always took a complete shower in between each session, which is true. she wondered how this could be possible, as customers are not supposed to take a shower. i replied i had never been refused to use the shower anytime, which is true too. she told me she appreciated this.
when we were completely naked, i realized that she was much more beautiful than i believed at first in the darkness of the bar. she had not only a very pretty face, but she had the most perfect possible body. she had exactly that firm petite teenage looking body with incredible narrow butt. but most surprising was her perfectly shaped d cup breast that looked too big to be natural in regard with the rest of her body. but when i touched, there was no doubt, it was definitely natural. bingo, i found the perfect gem! even if it was the third session of the afternoon and less than an hour from my previous one, her body made so fucking horny, i didn’t want to waste more time. it was not exactly gfe, as she refused to kiss, which i respect. but she seemed to have fun with me. she had an extremely narrow pussy, and the sex was simply amazing. as it was the third session, i could easily extend as much time as i wanted. unfortunately, her companera knocked on the door as she needed the room too. she kindly reminded me that we were taking too much time, as we were already fucking for 45 min. i just would have loved to go further, but didn’t want to make her feel uncomfortable, so i orgasmed quicker than i would have liked. i quickly showered and we left the room. she was surprised when i gave her 60$, so i explained it was because of the extended time.
the 20$ was an excellent idea, as once back in the bar she apologized for having rushed me, and said she would have loved to stay longer if we were alone. she simply didn’t want to leave me, as she probably felt guilty. i told her that i had spend a marvellous time with her, but that it was a pity that she didn’t want to kiss. she felt even more guilty, and explained that she never did this with first time customers. i told her that i was ready to go back again as soon as the room was available again, as this time i would not be anymore a first time customer. she appreciated my humour, she continued joking too, and she said that we were again back in the bar where she looked less beautiful than in the room according to what i had told to her. of course it was not true anymore. i had my eyes in her eyes and i told her that if i would stay too long with her i would stat to fall in love. yes, i was hooked , couldn’t wait to go back again and was confident even for a fourth session. i simply was worried for timing as i had a business meeting at 6pm and there was not much time left. we sat closer and closer, desperately waiting for that fucking room to be available again.
i then saw all the girls from the bar entering the office room. lorena was worried, she said there was a meeting with all the girls and the dueno and hoped she didn’t need to attend as she was with me. unfortunately, someone came to apologize and ask me to free lorena as the meeting would not last more than 5 minutes. he explained me that the boss had heard about complaints from some customers and he wanted to explain the girls that they needed to be more customer oriented. the boss was definitely worried about competition with carolina. i couldn’t more agree about a club owner trying to be customer oriented, so i agreed and let lorena attending the meeting. i told her i would wait for her. unfortunately, the meeting was longer than expected, i just couldn’t wait more and had to leave without being able to say good by to lorena. but i know i will be back soon.
i had to leave for my business meeting, didn’t manage to go back at night but woke up the next morning still dreaming of lorena. i had breakfast at the hotel, was the only single but was the only guy with a satisfied smile on his face, having fucked the day before with three sexy girls. i looked at the other guys around me, they seemed bored and unsatisfied in front of the their ugly and sad wife. music was going on. it was colombian salsa from carlos vives. i was swinging on the music and dreaming away…
Routard,
what is lorenas room number?
thanks
mel
I had eyes only for Lorena and forgat to check the room number for the record. Yes, I have left Saint Maarten but still can't forget her. She was by far the most beautiful of all the chicas from Seamens and Carolina all together. She is only 20, petite and looks like a teenager. She wil stay still December 12, and I will definitely try to go back before for a TLN this time.
Routard
Got checked in and headed out to the casas around 7
Drove past Carolinas. There was a rather large crowd spilling out of Crystal's and into the street. Just a bunch of locals having a good time, but I didn't like the vibe so I kept on going. I figured I would head to Casablanca. When I got there it was dead. Couple of chicas outside on cellphones, only one in the bar. I went in and ordered a drink. The one at the bar came over. Not my type at all....a bit on the large side but she seemed nice enough. Her name was Nancy from the DR.
I was going to pass on her, but the little stick was eager to get busy and she was the only one around. So I figured I would give her a try...mainly to get the first pop over with, knowing that after so many months of horniness it would be a quick one. So I give my money to the bar tender and off we go. I would hunt some real talent a bit later and wanted the second pop to be longer and enjoyable.
It started out all right....they have recently painted the hallways with several bright colors. It looks a lot better. It looks like they may also be gearing up to improve a bit. A good compitition among the houses can only mean nicer times for us mongers.
We get to her room and there is another girl coming out of the shower. They argue for a while and we go to another room where about 3 girls were getting showered and dressed. She complains to them for a while and they argue back at her. Finally we go back to the first room and the other girl was done and leaving. The argue a bit more. I understand none of it as it is in rapid spanish. They are all larger girls.
By this time I am not really digging it, but my money is paid so I continue on. She makes a good effort at changing her mood, but I could see that she was still pretty upset. She gets undressed and it ain't pretty. She had a large rack that was nice, but her belly was all stretched out and along with her ass, was lumpy. I talked her into a BBBJ and fairly quickly shot it right down her throat. Normally I am careful not to do that, but I really didn't care about this girl so I let it fly. I didn't really want to fuck her. She didn't react much so we got dressed and headed quickly out to the hall. I could tell that her mind was still on her arguments. She told me to wait while she went down to one of the rooms and starts screaming at the girls in there.
By this time there are a lot of chicas coming out of their rooms and finally I see some real talent! There were some very hot chicas, but I had had enough of that place so I took off.
Normally I like Casablanca, but this was not the best time I've had there. Oh well, first nut cracked and off to Defiance.
Defiance was just starting to gear up....lots of talent hanging around, very few guys. I sit down and have a beer. I turned down a few approaches as I just wanted to sit by myself a bit. One girl looked like a blonde California girl...not at all like the usual, but I still passed. I was looking for a classic Latina beauty and there were quite a few to choose from.
Finally I catch the eye of a real beauty...girl next door looks and not hard-core working girl. Beautiful smile and a nice laugh. Her body was for me...near perfect. Not a flacita, but a nice shapely woman without any bulges where they shouldn't be. Actually a bit athletic looking.
We try to chat for a while, but my lack of spanish and her lack of english make that difficult, but we still had fun a laughed a lot. I let her try to teach me to dance and we had a good time. Finally she askes if I like suckee suckee, fuckee fuckee and I say no. She is shocked but then I kiss her behind her ear and whisper "yo gusto amor" She laughs a bit then kisses me passionately.
After I manage to extract her tongue from my tonsils I suggest we go to her room. We get there and kiss for a while, have a shower together, with BBBJ in the shower. The little stick behaved himself and we towel each other off and head to the bed. Her body is so soft and delightful, nice firm natural breasts with dark chewable nipples, freshly shaved below and silky smooth. I head on down to the Y for a meal and she is already wet. She either is a fantastic actress or she really got off. I didn't care which it was as I was in heaven.
She puts on the condom with her mouth and climbs on top of me. She grabs the tube of lube...looks at it, laughs and throws it over her shoulder. "no necesario"....and in I go! She starts out very slowly and works her way up to a fast tempo. We tried several positions and finally go to mish, kissing passionately and I look her in the eyes as I cum. This is what I came for!
Another quick shower and we get dressed. She walked me out to the car and gives me another deep kiss. Ahhh....I know I will see her again!
By now, between travel and fun, I am beat and call it a night. I was going to see her again last night, but one of my clients invited me to dinner at his house on Stacia and I stayed there for the night. He just brought me back a while ago. (he has his own plane)
So my review so far...
Casablance has some nice talent in the 7-8+ range, but avoid the fat girls from the DR...they seem to be having some dispute and are all about 5-6. Nancy did not seem very popular with the others. I will probably go back again to try some of the other, finer girls but never with Nancy again.
Defiance was looking very good. Lots of Colombianas, mostly flacitas and spinners mostly 7-9. My girl is Gisela in room 207. Very nice 9, lots of fun. I will see her again and there are several others I would be willing to try as well.
I'll check out Seamans and Carolinas later tonight...unless my heart drags me back to Gisela.
It's good to be "home" again!
pogo
below is a link to a story in the daily herald newspaper about a girl who was murdered at petit chateau.
[url=http://www.thedailyherald.com/news/daily/j140/murder140.html]click here[/url]
several girls told me about this and how the girls were wary of going with local hombres now. at seamans several girls told me of local guys stealing purses with money/cellphone/etc from the girls (snatch and run on the front porch, for example). at carolina, one girl told me that things were bad, but i did not get details from her.
here is a copy of the newspaper story in case the link fails:
-zing
‘exotic dancer’ found murdered in brothel
philipsburg--for the second time this year a woman has been found dead after reportedly being sexually assaulted with a foreign object.
this time this time the victim is a 30-year-old woman who arrived on the island just under two weeks ago and started working at local brothel la petite chateau, where she was found dead on saturday around 1:15am.
this brings the number of homicides for the year so far to 14.
the latest victim has been identified as reina peres familia, born in the dominican republic on february 7, 1976. she arrived on the island on october 18, and started working at the brothel. she was found dead in her room by a security guard after he was alerted by one of her colleagues.
police spokesman chief inspector humphrey “boyd” giterson said the victim’s body had been confirep001ed for a post mortem.
the first woman to be killed in a similar manner this year was french national angelique chauvire (30), who was found dead in the bushes in dawn beach on friday, june 2, around 11:00am. she was the eighth person to be killed for the year on the dutch side and her murder is still being investigated.
giterson said police officers had been called to the scene and told that a woman had just been killed. on arrival they found the victim naked on the bed, showing no signs of life.
a doctor was summoned to the scene and after examining the body pronounced her dead. there were marks around her neck that suggested to detectives that she might have been strangled.
it is not yet clear whether authorities suspect who the killer is. many speculated that one or more people might have seen her leave the brothel’s bar.
Hello all. I've been laying low for a while. I made it out mongering again a few nights ago. First stop was Seaman's club, as that is the only club I've ever been to. I went at night, about 11:30pm, so it was reasonably crowded, but plenty of chicas. I went to the bar and ordered a drink, and two chicas came up to me asking if I wanted to have my "fantasy" with two girls. One was pretty good looking, but the other was not my taste at all. The one that I was completely un-interested in wouldn't leave me alone, and I repeatedly told her "No gracias." And she kept asking what my fantasy was, or what I wanted. I told her "yo quiero chupa, sin condom, en la boca." She was ok with it, so we went in her room, and she blew me and I came in her mouth. I enjoyed it :)
Being inspired by the greats of this message board, and after so many reports from Zing, I decided to go over and give Carolina's a try. I was feeling adventurous that night, so I decided I would go in and find one of the best looking girls I could and get a TLN. It was a bit intimidating with all the locals outside having some kind of gathering. Carolinas is pretty much one tiny room with everyone crammed in.
So I went in, and I immediately saw that the girls there were much more appealing to me than the girls at Seamans. I saw one that looked really nice, and I went to chat her up, and her name was Catalina. She had very poor english, but I know a bit of spanish, and I talked to her about getting a TLN. She was cool with it. So I paid the little fee ($45) and she packed a bag for the night.
I wanted to have fun with the TLN, instead of just fucking her all night long. I was a little buzzed when we were leaving, and we were talking pretty well in the car and making each other laugh. When we got back to my apartment, I offered her a drink, and we watched a bit of TV. I get the spanish channel so she watched some of that. I didn't try touching her or anything. Finally, she looked over at me and asked if I wanted "sucky or fucky?" So I said sure, and we went to the room for a BBBJ and CFS. For the CFS, she was on top at first, but only for a few minutes then she wanted me to get on top. She was loud, but to me, it was very obvious she was faking it (hey, I'm not *that* good!), and the "oh, mi amor" was just too fake too.
I actually didn't really enjoy the sex with her. Anyway, we went to sleep, and I was kinda relieved to bring her home. In the morning, the whole "great idea" of a TLN was gone and I regretted having spent the money and done all that. I think I would have been much happier just having sex with her at the club. If I ever do a TLN again, I will be sure to have "tried out" the girl in advance to see how things are. I guess I just wasn't thinking :)
My next mongering experience will, for sure, start at Carolinas.
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I returned from usa vacation to st maarten today. Over 3 weeks without a chica. I was horny.
Various things went wrong in St Maarten and the traffic was tied up in 2 places, so I arrived at Carolina around noon. Much to my disappointment both Beatriz and Luna, my regular duo, have gone back to colombia. I had thought i would see luna one last time. Instead of waiting around and thinking, or waiting to see Estefania (anoher previous favorita who is still at Carolina), I went with Nicola, the first girl I saw when I came in and a previous session. I was so horny I overlooked/forgot the fact that she doesnt french kiss, no daty, bj is covered, etc. although she was still quite sexy and it didn't take much to get me off! rm 2. $40 plus a music cd. Long dark hair, nice breasts, just a bit overweight.
saw estefania and gave her a music cd, then went over to seamans. Most of my previous amigas were still there, except Carolina. I chose joanna maria (rm 15) who I remembered as one of my wildest and most enjoyable girls. this time she offer up her cola (anal), which was not a surprise due to ISG reports. She was excellent, long cuddle and conversation afterwards. She told me about the bad things that have been happening to the girls (see report below). Joanna Maria is on her last few weeks in sxm, then returns to Bogota. about an hour. I left $80 for the extra time and the extra services. Her birthday is Nov 25.
talked with many of my past sessions (paulina, lucero, ndrea, ximena, etc etc). made tentative dates to try a new girl next visit, plus a repeat with lucero, but I went to the room with Cecelia - it was her last day. this girl does incredible sex, and is nice too. confident and unaffected. too bad she is leaving.
returned to carolina at 330pm. ran into mel's melissa in the restaurant. nice conversation, beautiful girl. incredible eyes and lips and breasts. we were both being sentimental and near tears. I gave her 6 music cds at the request of mel, but did not feel comfortable asking her for a session (nor was she trying to sell me). she knows that mel knows me and that i know he is special to her and while I was in the states she helped buy some chocolates with mel as a gift from me to beatriz and luna. too much personal information between us for an impersonal sex transaction!
both places have tons of cute new girls, although which give the best service I do not know yet. Did not see Routard's petite blond at seamans. Did see Mel's tall knockout as she walked thru carolina, but never got to talk to her or get her name.
there were 4 cruise ships today. it was crowded with guys at both places this afternoon. it is good to be back!
-zing
Hey Zing,
Any chance of you or some of the others taking a picture of the girls at the major spots, clothed, and posting them with names.
Would make it a lot easier to know who everyone is talking about. I've found that names tend to change based on the requested flavor of the week (heavily influenced from here I am sure.)
Just a thought but would be nice.
Infinity
[QUOTE=Zing23]Below is a link to a story in the Daily Herald newspaper about a girl who was murdered at Petit Chateau.
[url=http://www.thedailyherald.com/news/daily/j140/Murder140.html]click here[/url]
Several girls told me about this and how the girls were wary of going with local hombres now. At Seamans several girls told me of local guys stealing purses with money/cellphone/etc from the girls (snatch and run on the front porch, for example). At Carolina, one girl told me that things were bad, but I did not get details from her.[/QUOTE]Zing, have you been to the island since then? What's going on in the clubs? Do they have more security and more restrictions for the customers? Daily Herald printed that almost half of the girls from Le Petit returned to their countries, what about Seamans, Carolina and the rest?
Do they have any idea who the (apparently serial) killer is?
[QUOTE=Lucky Strike]Zing, have you been to the island since then? What's going on in the clubs? Do they have more security and more restrictions for the customers? Daily Herald printed that almost half of the girls from Le Petit returned to their countries, what about Seamans, Carolina and the rest?
Do they have any idea who the (apparently serial) killer is?[/QUOTE]Well, if he's only killing prostitutes, it could be Jack the Ripper!
[QUOTE=Lucky Strike]Zing, have you been to the island since then? What's going on in the clubs? Do they have more security and more restrictions for the customers? Daily Herald printed that almost half of the girls from Le Petit returned to their countries, what about Seamans, Carolina and the rest?
Do they have any idea who the (apparently serial) killer is?[/QUOTE]
I was there on wed after the murder on the weekend. I went to Seamans and Carolina, not to Petit Chateau. There did not seem to be any new restrictions or security at Seamans or Carolina, but the girls at Seamans at least thought that security could be better. They would like a panic button in the room! And the murder caused them to bring up other problems they have had, mostly thefts from the room and purse snatching. I saw no sign that girls were leaving those 2 clubs to go home, but one told me that she always thought Colombia was more dangerous than St Maarten, but had now changed her mind.
I have not heard anything about suspects/progress, etc., but I don't actually
life on st maarten, so don't get the local gossip except when i am there.
-zing
I will be making a trip in the near future with a group to St. Maarten. I have read all the messages and wanted to know how you would rate the surroundings in the Casas as far as the most to least comfortable to spend time in before and after Chica time. (Comfortable seating, safety, cocktails, atmosphere)
Thanks,
C
[QUOTE=Colones]I will be making a trip in the near future with a group to St. Maarten. I have read all the messages and wanted to know how you would rate the surroundings in the Casas as far as the most to least comfortable to spend time in before and after Chica time. (Comfortable seating, safety, cocktails, atmosphere)[/QUOTE]
Most comfortable seating, safety, atmosphere: Carolina, then Seamans. Cocktails: don't know as I never order them, but both have fully stocked bars. Girl quality is usually the same: Carolina first, then Seamans. The major hindrance to atmosphere in both places is that the music can be loud and if you don't like reggaeton/hiphop, it can get irritating.
Casa Blanca has only stools, nowhere comfortable to sit.
Defiance has padded benches and stools and the music is usually not too loud in the afternoon - this can be quite relaxing. however, the rooms are more basic than at carolina. at night, this place is like a noisy strip club.
-zing
Zing
Enjoyable thread with no trolls. Thank you and keep up the great reports.
Regards,
C
I agree with Zing that Carolinas has better looking girls than Seamans. However, I feel safer at Seamans than Carolinas. To me, the only time I feel "unsafe" is when I am parking and walking in. Carolinas feels like its more in the ghetto, and there is a house/club across the street with lots of locals in it that makes me feel uneasy when I walk by it. But, there is usually a security guard outside of Carolinas. At Seamans, the parking is surrounded by gating, and there usually isn't too many people out in the lot, and usually there is a security guard.
However, the other night I hit both Carolinas and Seamans (will report below) and on my way out of Seamans, a local homeless looking person wanted to wash my windows. I told him no thanks, but he kept on washing. At the same time some local approached me from the other side and wanted me to bring him somewhere down the road, and this didn't seem to be up for debate. I'm not a big guy, so I'm not intimidating. Not knowing what to do, I told the local to go around to the other side of the car and get in. So I opened my door, got in, then locked my door. By this time the local was on the other side of the car, and I just drove off and left him standing there. Hope he doesn't remember me!
Anyway. It was a good night of mongering. My first stop was Carolinas. I went in and there were some decent girls in that night. One of the not so attractive ones came up to me and started talking. I figured it's my money, and I'll spend it how I want, so I just casually talked to her but didn't show much interest. That's when I saw a knockout come from the door. Tall, beautiful, brunette. I ended up asking the girl who was talking to me to go get the girl.
So, she comes over. Her name is Isabella, room 13. Tall, beautiful brunette. Braces, augmented breasts. She told me she had no children, but she had a scar on her stomach from a see-section, so go-figure. I asked her to the back. $40 for CBJ, massage, and CFS. She was really cute, and made it nice. A decent GFE, but no kissing on lips. Afterwards she showered, and I watched a bit. She had a really sexy body so I couldn't help but look:)
After that, I went over to Seamans to see who was there. A few nice looking girls, and a bunch more that I wasn't interested in at all. Unfortunately, Lucero saw me again and came up and wanted to get with me. There was a girl I saw I wanted to try out, but I couldn't because Lucero wouldn't leave me alone. "You special guy. " Haha:) She's a nice lady, but I finally felt comfortable enough to tell her "yeah, just like all the guys! " But I was nice about it. I ended up taking her in the back. BBBJ, then a long CFS through several positions. What's nice about Lucero is she gives a pretty nice masage afterwards, which is relaxing after you just finish having sex. Especially since they are, I suppose, technically "finished" with you when you cum. So it's a nice bonus, and she's nice about it.
When I left I had the experience in the parking lot I talked about earlier.
Zing, or anyone else, if you want to get your BJ to be BB instead of see, should you negotiate that outside in the bar first? Or just take your chances in the room?
SXMPERSON
[QUOTE=Sxmperson101]if you want to get your BJ to be BB instead of CBJ, should you negotiate that outside in the bar first? Or just take your chances in the room? SXMPERSON[/QUOTE]
If you read all the threads on this web site, the universal advice is to make your requirements clear before you go to the room.
However, I don't do that - I just let them know that I expect a GFE session. In the room, if she reaches for the condon before the BJ, I ask her "mi amor, possible chupa sin condon, por favor". If she still puts on the condon, I still enjoy the rest of the session, but I do not repeat. If you are a regular visitor, I think this is a reasonable strategy. If you are here once a year, I think every session counts more and upfront negotiation is required.
what do others do?
-zing
I tend to be like Zing23. At least because I have been promised so many times this and that and did not get the expected service that I finally felt useless to ask beforehand. The good thing with SXM and Curacao is that the prices are so cheap that you can try many girls and figure out who's the best.
Furthermore there are also both a chemestry that can start in the room and a "repeat" factor. With a regreted chica in SXM, first session was good but not fantastic, second better, during the third something special really happened. Actually I am still in contact with her, after practically falling in love with a couple of other ones during my 3 years stay in the Carribbean.
Of course, if you are there for a couple of days, who do not want to spoil your few session so negociating is mandatory : my advice : negociate and pay the regular price and promise a tip if you really get what you want or more so that the girl will have an incentive.
I think I'd like to add something :
DFK is for me what's really make the difference. I cannot consider that a GFE can be done without DFK.
I have asked in SXM every girl about it : not a single one had committed to DFK, most of them making some disgusting mimic. I can understand it : even I had few experiences with some prostitutes I would not like to kiss. Do not forget that DFK also created desire for a woman, and most of them want to have sex mecanically because they can't afford to be deeply emotionally and physically implicated with dozen of men during a single day, otherwise they would be exhausted.
In Europe, there are few high class escort who advertise on internet and commit to DFK, and in 80% of the case it was true. But we are talking about another range of prices.
Returning to our subject : if you try to negociate DFK before the session, you will limit your range considerably or pay for a lyer. DFK is something that will come during the session depending on your ability to make the girl confortable.
Words of mouth and this forum is also helpful but in many circumstances I have been with a girl who did DFK to some of you guys and not me and since I am an educated, clean and very delicate gentleman I guess the contrary must have been true.
I just got back from my first visit to St. Maraterns. I thought I would just post my observations. First I think St. Maartens maybe one of the hidden jewels for our hobby.
Let me start by saying that I do not think going on a cruise, is the best way to enjoy St. Maartens, you just seem rushed and not able to really enjoy the fruits of SM. If you do go via a cruise do not walk, it just is not worth it. If you get a cab make sure you strike a deal before getting in the cab. I find this is good practice anytime you are in a diffrent country. I paid $6.00 to goto Seamans, and $5.00 to go back to the cruise dock from Carolines. I did walk from Seamans to Carolines, even though there were cabs waiting.
Both Seamans and Carolines open at 11:00 AM. If you go to Seamans goto the back of the bar, and sit buy the back door. This way you are the first to see the girls come and can catch their eye as they come in the door. They have a dressing room off to the left of the stage. By 11:30 there were about 6 guys and 6 to 7 girls, not too bad of selection. I ended up hooking up with a young lady from Venzula, and paid $50.00 for FS. She was nice and very pleasant. One of the reasons I like to go early to anywhere was she had just showered before coming on the floor and seemed to be clean and fresh. I asked her about a all day date, she seem very excited about this $200.00 plus $50.00 for the bar. However because I was on the cruise was unable to take part. The negative of Seamans, was you did seem rush, right on the door was a sign limiting you to 20 minutes and good luck. After I was done I ask used her shower, she said I had to be quite and then locked the door, but allowed me to shower. All and All worth the 50 + 6 for the cab ride. I did give her a $10 tip she seemed suprise and gave me a big kiss on the cheek.
After that I walked to Carolines, I got there about 12:15 there were maybe 12 ladies and maybe 6 guys. I got a beer here and just watch, I believe the beer was $3.50 not too bad. The selection of ladies was much better quality and the place seemed a little nicer. I finally picked a young lady, she said it was $60.00. So we went back to her room which was a little nicer than Seamans. She also indicated that take out was available but did not seem excited about it nor did she tell me how much. Over all Carolines has nicer girls, the place seem cleaner, but the service was not as personal just mechanica,. Might have picked the wrong girl. By 1:15 the place was backed with guys so I do recommend getting there early. There were cabs right out the door waiting to take you back to town.
All in All worth another visit when I have more time to enjoy the island, but would not recommend going on a cruise with just the intent of visitins SM. Forget the cruise fly down and get a hotel and enjoy the island.
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[QUOTE=Jan Chris]Words of mouth and this forum is also helpful but in many circumstances I have been with a girl who did DFK to some of you guys and not me and since I am an educated, clean and very delicate gentleman I guess the contrary must have been true.[/QUOTE]
Same thing has happened to me. I never negotiate DFK beforehand and sometimes girls who others have had good DFK with give only light kisses to me. And others give DFK for me but I know that they don't for others. And some warm up to DFK after the 2nd or 3rd visit!
-zing
I am no fan of DFK because I enjoy BBBJ. Just the thought that pros like Jan's or Zing's or Mel's uncovered cock went where I want my mouth to go is not an exciting feeling especially since I don't like blisters around my lips.
DFK is not among the things I usually require. It would also be an awkward thing to negotiate beforehand.
BTW, Mel and I did not meet eventually but I did take his advise about switching from Petite Chateau to Carolina. It is the best mongering advise I have ever received. Report coming up about an encounter with "Carolina" of Carolina. Probably the greatest ever.
Thanks Mel. Someday we will meet face to face and I can toast you for the great information.
I'm with you, man. I don't like DFK with any of them. Just imagine they just gave a BBBJ to a big herpes (or other) lesioned dick moments before.
[QUOTE=Alan]I am no fan of DFK because I enjoy BBBJ. Just the thought that pros like Jan's or Zing's or Mel's uncovered cock went where I want my mouth to go is not an exciting feeling especially since I don't like blisters around my lips.
[/QUOTE]This must be why the girls and I are always in the bathroom afterwards rinsing out our mouths with Listerine.
-zing
Does anyone remember a girl named Nicol at Seamans in January and February of '05? She was nice looking, about 23, and spoke quite a bit of English which she said she learned there. She spoke much more English than anyone else I came in contact with. Of course everyone else spoke virtually none. Nicol was very light skinned from Cali I believe.
There was a very cute young girl of black descent also. They both wore their breasts jacked way up. Nicol's were apparently augmented.
I've been to St Maarten only twice: '86 for seven months and January-Febuary of '05. Of course there are stories and the comparison between the two eras is a story in itself.
Do people know the local name for Seamans ?
On this visit to St Maarten, I had a new adventure, so I decided to do a full report.
Usually I start with a girl at Carolina around 11am, then one at Seamans, then another at Defiance or Casa Blanca, then home at around 4pm. In other words, one girl at a club, then move on. I usually rest up between girls to accomodate my age, but even with the rest I find that 2 orgasms is typical for me, 3 is very unusual. The vitamin V last about 5 hours.
As I was driving to Seamans club, I asked myself this question. Which do you prefer: the girls room, where it is quiet and cool and you are stretched out on a reasonably comfortable bed with a naked pretty girl to stroke and kiss you, or the bar, where it is very noisy and you are seated on an uncomfortable stool and a series of pretty, but clothed girls are hitting you up for drinks, phone cards, free CDs and visits to their room?
The answer was obvious: the girl's rooms are much better! So why not spend an entire afternoon as much as possible with the girls in their rooms.
I decided to forget my physical limits and forget moving from club to club and forget taking a rest. I just went to Seamans at 11am and started going to the room with girls, and continued non-stop until 430pm, 6 room visits in total!
1. I know a lot of girls at Seamans from previous visits. First to approach me was Joanna (rm 1) from Bucaramonga (spell?) who used to room with Paulina, although we have never done the deed. She is pretty, with braces, dark hair, well rounded with nice natural breasts, a somewhat shy and gentle face. She told me that Paulina is in Colombia, but will be going to Panama to work tomorrow. So far I haven't had a reply to my email to Paulina. I gave Joanna a music CD and she asked if I would like to go to her room to listen to it on her computer. This is the first chica who mentioned having a computer, so I went. She has a VAIO notebook that she bought in St Maarten and she had loaded it with the mp3 English lessons that I gave Paulina.
We listened to some tranquil latino music that I gave her, then I asked if she would like more English lessons. Yes! So I loaded the Rosetta Stone software on her computador and gave her the lesson CDs for English and French. She got the idea immediately - in fact she didn't make any mistakes for quite a while. After about 30 minutes I told her I had an appointment with another chica and went back to the bar - no sex, but a new friend (who I had sex with later in the day!).
2. In the bar I found Joanna Maria (rm 15). I had "saved" my first session for her because she always gave me the best service and often I didn't climax with her because she was the 3rd girl of the day! We went right to the room for an hour of sex and fun and talk and listening to some nice music in English. I find it difficult to remember all the details right now, but I do remember a reverse cowgirl position which was very enjoyable. And a lot of ball licking and AR. And a wonderful climax. She is leaving for Colombia in a couple of weeks. She gave me a comparison of the different clubs (bar fine at Seamans is now $100 per half-day, but still only $45 at Carolina, so the girls there get a lot more takeout business).
3. Back in the bar, I looked for Caterine (pronounced cat-er-een-ay) from Cali, who I had missed an appt with earlier in the week.
I don't see her (she was eating lunch in the lunchroom I found out later), but instead I settled next to Lucero (see report by Sxmperson and my previous reports).
Lucero isn't the prettiest girl in the club but she has the tightest body. Even her implants seem nice on her body. She remembered the details of our previous encounters perfectly and said she hadn't had another full body massage since her last time with me. So I took her off to the room, out of the noisy bar, gave her a nice long massage, and found that I was hard again. Excellent! I kissed down Lucero's tight stomach and into DATY. Usually I start with light kisses all around the area and then on the clit, then run the tip of my tongue along the inside edge of the lips on either side, then circle around the clit with the tip of my tongue, followed by some lapping with my full tongue, etc. I usually stop after a few minutes when I think she is ready, has enjoyed herself and hasn't gotten bored or irriated by too much attention. But this time I tried something new that I learned with Ximena a few weeks ago. I pressed down and from side to side firmly with my upper lip/teeth on her mound, just above the clit, and stroked ever so gently with my full tongue up over her clit. Ximena went crazy when I did this by accident and kept saying "suave" which I deduced meant to keep the pressure on my with upper lip, but not to press hard with my tongue. Ximena quickly had a climax and so did Lucero. She was VERY surprised! As she was resting I asked her if she climaxed frequently and she said almost never- the men are usually in too much of a hurry and don't go at the pace that a woman requires. The rest of my visit with Lucero was extremely affectionate.
4. Lucero send me back to the bar, where a girl from Trinidad asked why I didn't do her. She was dark, thin, pretty. She doesn't speak Spanish, only English, which I found out after I talked to her only in Spanish. I say I don't know you, why should I go with you. She asks "you don't like black? Once you try black you won't go back!" I say I love black, just as I love white. To prove my point, an old session Marisol from D.R. came up to the bar just then and curled her arms around me and weedled some money out of me for a phone card. I was not turned on by this girl from Trinidad - am I now hooked only on Latinas?
Then I found Caterine, who said she saw me go to the room with Lucero. I take Caterine to her room after a few minutes. No rest periods for me today, except those in the room afterwards with the girl. Caterine has dark hair, very large implants, a very curvy and nice body, and speaks very good English. Her eyes are sharp and intelligent. She is quite forward compared to some of the girls. In her room we listened to music from her Ipod (mostly English pop tunes) and I found out that her mother lives in Las Vegas. I am starting to get a bad feeling, because girls with too much USA exposure often have rules (no kissing etc) and a professional attitude. I kept Caterine off guard by telling her of my plan to go with girls continuously all day long and joking with her. I gave a her a massage, but she wasn't into it. I let her take over and with her professional skills she got me hard again very quickly. I especially liked her kissing me all over my body, ending with ball licking and what I think was a BBBJ but blended into a CBJ without my actually noticing (by this time I am perhaps getting a little exhausted)! Overall, it was a good experience, but I didn't feel we really connected.
5. Back in the bar, I bought Caterine a Perrier water at the bar and she said I should wait 10 minutes before going with the next girl. I asked her to recommend someone and she called over a new girl, Brissa, who isn't really new because she was at Seamans last year also. Brissa is very petite, slim, curly hair, beautiful pixy face, nice small breasts, extremely cuddly! Caterine leaves me with Brissa for a chat and the start of a sales pitch.
I had talked to Brissa for a few minutes and found out what music she likes and given her a couple of CDs, when Andrea comes up to the bar. I had intended to go with Andrea back in slot 3 or 4, but didn't see her at the time (she was eating lunch also). By the way, Andrea is not her real name, but I don't know if she wants you to know her real name. She is from Medellin, short, with large breasts, braces on her teeth, curly reddish blond hair. I tell Brissa I will get with her later, but I must talk to my friend. Caterine comes up and asks me what is wrong with Brissa, the girl she recommended. I say nothing is wrong, but Andrea is leaving soon for Colombia and has been waiting patiently for 8 weeks to see me. Caterine says that Brissa is mad at me for dumping her in front of the other girls. I say I hope she will get over it by the next time I am in Seamans!
Andrea and I go to her room, number 2 or 3, and run into Joanna (see step 1 above) in the hallway - she asks me to come to her room and show her some more music cds afterwards. Andrea and I give each other massages, half undressed. She has dozens of mosquito bites, and lots of tension in her muscles, and problems but she doesn't tell me about, but I suspect she isn't making enough money. I notice that she is actally quite beautiful when she relaxes back on the bed and has her mouth closed so you don't see the braces. Andrea is a friend of mine and we have never had sex (see prev reports). This is the second time we have gone to her room as just friends for a long visit with massaging and conversation. Funny thing is, this time I was actually hot for her and was a tiny bit disappointed that she still thought of me as her father figure.
I told her one of my fantasies: to buy a nice 4 bedroom house in St Maarten with a pool and jacuzzi and create an after-hours refuge for the chicas. Give out visiting cards to my favorites, inviting them to come by after closing time for a big super-comfortable bed, kitchen full of tasty snacks and drinks, 600-thread count linen, a delicious breakfast with Internet newspapers from Colombia and free internet phone calls, and a ride back to work at 11am. And perhaps an encounter with me during the night, if I have enough stamina to get around to everyone who shows up. Andrea really got into the idea and had a lot of suggestions. I think a nice guy could have more bed partners than he would know what to do with!
6. Back in the bar again, I only have a short time left, but I see Joanna immediately. She has a roundish face, gentle looking, not sharp, good figure. She asks when we can go to her room for a massage and I say now (no rest for the weary, plus I didn't have sex with Andrea so I figure the equipment might function one more time!) She wasn't really interested in a massage, she wanted to capture me as a client. And here I am with only the standard Seamans time slot left to me, when I usually figure on 40 to 80 minutes per girl. Even though it was necessarily rushed by my standards, it went extemely well. After some nice kissing and snuggling and stroking, I tried DATY. Can the Ximema strategy work again? I decide to try the "suave" technique on Joanna (but without the preparatory massage and relaxation that Lucero had). Bingo! It worked again, and Joanna was just as surprised as Lucero had been. She just lay back and sighed with contentment. I know that many girls have faked orgasms with me, but this was genuine - it snuck up on her without her realizing it. And we hadn't been at it long enough for her to grow impatient and go into the standard fake moaning, arching, "orgasm".
Joanna slipped on the condom for a CBJ, which I switched quickly to CFS because I was plenty hard from her kisses and stroking and suckling my nipples. Several positions later we ended up in doggie and I asked her to lie down (acostado) for flat doggie, which I haven't tried in a long time, but read about in Tung's Quito reports. An excellent position, with her hand under her caressing my balls I almost came again, but not quite.
Joanna asks how many girls I went with today and I say 5. She says she wants to be number 2 next time, not number 5! This is a wonderful girl - not demanding to be the solo girl, or #1 girl, but just #2. I say we can't repeat unless she does a BBBJ next time and she nods okay, against her better judgement.
After I left Seamans, I had 10 minutes free and stopped by Defiance. I saw an old friend named Crystal and was surprised she was still working at Defiance (she has been there over half a year so far) and met her two friends Sofia (slim, light brown hair) and Claudia (blond, big natural rack, gleam in her eye, a little older than the others). Claudia had been mentioned to me as a very hot session by two other guys and I got her room number (rm 220) for next time!
Then I heard my name called from a corner of the room and there was my old favorita Alexandra (rm 211), who is still at Defiance until Dec 14th! This was a very nice reunion and an excellent end to my day in St Maarten.
-zing
Excellent idea Zing, your chica house in Saint Maarten. Hope you will invite me once in your private mansion!
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All you need to know about the scene in Saint Maarten!
Routard
Does anyone know Nicol who was at Seamens in January and February of '05? I hope this post isn't a repeat. She was white skinned from Cali, very very nice and spoke quite a bit of English. She said she learned it there. I hope someone knows her and can speak about her.
I had a session with Brissa. NOt great just a very nice body- poor technique- too much head bobbing and no ball licking, and fair both front and rear cowboy. i wouldn't repeat.
i think the less beautiful women try harder for the most part.
i had to return to the states for one day but will be back in SXM today.
It was nice seeing you on my boat and Melissa says hi.
wasn't she beautiful even having just awakened?
full report when i return from sxm later next week
6 days and nights with melissa and 7 other girls on my "errrands" off the boat.
I am glad i got a day off !!!
mel
Your experience with tln's is typical.
it is important to "kick the tires" before buying the car.
i always take the chica to the room for a test drive before doing a tln.
it is also important to tell her what you want. an all night fuck-a-thon.
or twice in the night and once in the morning.(whatever)
if you lay down the ground rules beforehand you will most likely have a much better experience.
mel
ps Zing quite a fuck-a-thon.
my hats off to you.
I had the opportunity to spend some time with the owner of Carolinas to ask him about a few issues that were posted here (not mentioning ISG) And get some good room numbers.
security--he took me up to his office , he has over 75,000 worth of security gear , low light, cameras and video recorders. all in "public" places.
there is always a security guard and with the new fence and paving on the side of carolinas it is greatly improved.
with respect to the guys hanging outside the other club- they are just that . a bunch of guys hanging out. i have never been concerned. in fact the more people in the street the safer i feel.
NOISE- i told the owner that i as well as some of my friends find the Very loud music distracting and makes conversation difficult.he addressed this and said that if the music is too low the club becomes depressing, after all this is a club and not a dining room. I can see his point.
he also said that if you want to have a better conversation with a chica and to see what she looks like you are more than welcome to go into the back anteroom and sit on the sofa in a quieter environment with better lighting.
i mentioned that the club is a little small and suggested that he take over part of the restaurant. he thought that this would be a good idea and will work on opening up the wall ajoining the restaurant and install sliding doors later this season.
mel
There was mention of a new seamans club being built.
I had the opportunity to meet with the owner of carolinas last august and he showed me his latest project.---Directly behind Seamans.
he is building a casa de amour- a love motel. the first story is already up.
the purpose of this is to bring a chica to the "casa" and drive directly into a carage and close garage the door.
there will be bedrooms above and a sliding door where money can be exchanged and drinks ordered in total privacy.
i guess this will be for locals. i also believe this is what the girls in seamans are referring to. if you walk into the field at the intersection of arch road and the road where carolinas is about 100 feet back is the first story of the motel, it has about 18 rooms.
mel'
Mel,
Thanks for the info about the love motel, but the owner of Seamens is not he same as the one from Carolina, and the owner of Seamens has another project that has nothing to do with the love motel. He is planning to build a new two storey building for Seamens, right next to Seamens, on the open air space that is now used to park if the main parking of Seamens is full. That has been confirmed to me not only by the chicas, but also by Roberto the barkeeper.
This competition between clubs is very promising, as Saint Maarten with it's legal brothels may become a major mongering destination with direct air links to the US.
Routard
[QUOTE=Routard]
This competition between clubs is very promising, as Saint Maarten with it's legal brothels may become a major mongering destination with direct air links to the US.
Routard[/QUOTE]
I agree...competition can only be good for us.
Last month at Casa Blanca I noticed the hallways downstairs were all repainted in nice bright colors. Driving past there in the daylight I saw what seemed to be a large addition under construction. I don't know if it was always like that and I hadn't noticed before or it it is new. There was a large construction crane there, so it may be an active project. If it is an addition it looks like it will more than double the capacity.
Looks like things will onlt be improving for the monger scene in St Maarten.
Pogo (48 hours until I'm at the Campo in Curacao!)
You are correct about ongoing improvements at Casa Blanca, at least that was according to the management I talked to last month during my visit in October. Will be back the first week of May 2007 to find out. Can't wait.
[QUOTE=Routard]Excellent idea Zing, your chica house in Saint Maarten. Hope you will invite me once in your private mansion!
Routard[/QUOTE]
Perhaps we could find room for special senior friends to sometimes visit the Chica Mansion, but running a business for mongers is NOT part of the fantasy.
The goal is a refuge for beautiful working girls from Colombia, giving me a wide choice of potential sex partners when I wake up horny in the morning. This is just a fantasy at the moment, but perfectly doable if I ever divorced. I suspect the hardest part of the deal would be chica management, so here is my visitor guide:
Beautiful Ladies, Welcome to the Chica Mansion
Please enjoy everything in the house freely (luxury bathrooms with jacuzzi bathtub and French shampoo and perfume, swimming pool, kitchen fully stocked with food and drink, plasma television with Spanish programs and DVDs, internet PC with free phone calls to Colombia, and comfortable big beds with fine Italian linen). The Chica Mansion is open from 2am to 11am and by special request from 3pm to 7pm. Please telephone 580-1234 when you are on the way over in the taxi - we will meet you at the gate and pay the taxi driver.
Visitation is by invitation only. If you wish to bring a girlfriend with you, please call first to confirm. The taxi departs promptly at 10:45am to return you to your club (we are only a few minutes away in Guana Bay (or Pointe Blanche or Dawn Beach...)
There are no fines (multas) here, but there are rules (the only punishment is banishment from the Chica Mansion):
1. First come, first served on bedroom selection. Sometimes you may need to share a bedroom - be considerate and do not hog the bathroom. You may sleep in my bedroom if the bed is not full, but this is not mandatory.
2. No loud noises: some people will by trying to get their first good night's sleep in several weeks.
3. No smoking inside the mansion and no drugs anywhere.
4. Breakfast is served from 8am - if there is something special that you would like to eat, please let the housekeeper know in advance so that she can arrange it.
5. While you are here, use anything that is not locked away, but no stealing. If there is something you like, ask the housekeeper and she will arrange for you to purchase it.
Attention Senora Visitor: if you choose to work while you are here, take as much time as you like, but charge only the regular club fee for each attempt.
El Jefe - "zing"
Vitamin v and vitamin c is available at the Phillipsburg pharmacy the last street before the traffic circle on the way to seamans. The pharmacy is associated with the doctor next door. Vitamin v is available as generic for less than $5- a pill .
Mel
Hey,
I visited St. Maarten in the beginning of November and I feel since I've gotten some great tips and advice from this site, a report is the least I could do.
So, the first place I checked out was Seamen's, a cutie from Dominican Rep. saunetered up and we made some small talk. I was about 3 on a Sat. Took her back to her room, did the deed - cbj, fs for $50. Strange that I can't remember her name, to be honest out of the 3 times I visited Seamen's she was probably the cutest gal in the place. She actually looked like an actress I've seen - Rosario Dawson (had to look/google her up because I didn't know the name), I swear, practically spitting image of her, killer body. I was with another girl the following night from Venezuela, petite, huge rack (very fake) and cute but not as cute as the first.
Carolina's in my opinion is the better place - way better looking girls and the thing I liked the best was that in Carolina's the girls wouldn't act clingy, or should I say lilke they were yours once you were with them like Seamen's (which is great because I didn't feel as pressured and had my choice everytime I was there : )
I don't recall too many names, which is probably due to 2 reasons; one that I was drinking all day and two I'm just better with faces than names. Was with 4 different girls in all from Carolina's (I think).
The one name I remember was Sophia from Colombia... pretty cute face although a bit ethic (not that that's a bad thing) but probably the most amazing body I've ever seen. All natural and large beautiful breasts, and ass and legs to die for and great in the sack. I guess I remember her the most because the night I was with her the club was packed and after a couple beers at the bar I moved to another spot and she walked up to me. We danced, (pretty erotically) for like 20 minutes and this really amped up the sexual tension. She was super fun and sweet, left her $50 (which included a $10 tip). Gotta say, she really enjoyed what she does.
There were overall, some really good looking girls at Carolina's. I hooked up with a blonde from Medellin, who for the life of me I can't remember her name, but was super sweet and very willing. The first time I saw her, which was the night before when I hooked up with Sophia I thought she was maybe some other tourist's girlfriend cause of her looks, she looked like a California girl, I'd say she was an 8 easy. I do remember her saying she won't be back as she didn't like St. Maarten too much, she was 23 and had a 9 year old back home!, man they start young back in Colombia, lol. She was very nice and we even showered together.
Anyway, overall I can't recommend Carolina's enough, which to me blew Seamen's away. Maybe somehow I missed most of the hotties at Seamen's but I only saw a couple there that were worth being with. The other club's I visited - Crystal, Casa Blanca, Petite Chateau, weren't worth even visiting, although I stopped back in each twice just to make sure I wasn't missing anything. Was in each of those for like 1 beer (if that) and left... the girls there I saw I wouldn't even let them pay me... lol.
Scored some bud the first night (not really good, but hey i was on vacation, talked him down to $10, got 2 nice joints : ) in front of Carolina's one night, and another night a local helped me pick my car up out of a drainage ditch I had slid over with one of my tires (it was wet and I was drunk, bought him some drinks and we went to Petite Chatuea, other wise that was the only club I couldn't find on my own). Club was horrible, girl was horrible (although probably one of the best looking in that club which wasn't saying much, but I was really loaded that night so I said what the hell, basically she wouldn't do doggy so I said I'm out and never came back).
The locals are really cool I must say, the island though wasn't what I expected but I had a great time and I even picked up a local bar tender at one of the places near my hotel I was having lunch at. Actually she picked me up and offered to bring to a good Indian restaurant near Maho.
Sorry I couldn't be more specific with the girls' names and such, but it was my first time so I wasn't so meticulous on the notes as I was just absorbing everything and having a drunken good time. I'll definitely be back soon, I think this time I'll take one back to the hotel for the night, seems worth it. The only reason I hesitated doing so this time around because my Spanish is really bad, and talking with one of these girls after 10 minutes seemed awkward unless we were getting busy. So, I'll be working on my espanol in the meantime : ).
I do want to say thanks to all you guys on this board, the info here (especially the chica language for gringos and directions) that I found in the St. Maarten posts was super helpful. Long post I know and probably not even that helpful, but what the hey, this was my first mongering and you guys are the only one's I will tell of my exploits to, what happens in St. Maarten stays in St. Maarten.
Cheers,
T
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Hey,
I visited St. Maarten in the beginning of November and I feel since I've gotten some great tips and advice from this site, a report is the least I could do.
So, the first place I checked out was Seamen's, a cutie from Dominican Rep. saunetered up and we made some small talk. I was about 3 on a Sat. Took her back to her room, did the deed - cbj, fs for $50. Strange that I can't remember her name, to be honest out of the 3 times I visited Seamen's she was probably the cutest gal in the place. She actually looked like an actress I've seen - Rosario Dawson (had to look/google her up because I didn't know the name), I swear, practically spitting image of her, killer body. I was with another girl the following night from Venezuela, petite, huge rack (very fake) and cute but not as cute as the first.
Carolina's in my opinion is the better place - way better looking girls and the thing I liked the best was that in Carolina's the girls wouldn't act clingy, or should I say lilke they were yours once you were with them like Seamen's (which is great because I didn't feel as pressured and had my choice everytime I was there : )
I don't recall too many names, which is probably due to 2 reasons; one that I was drinking all day and two I'm just better with faces than names. Was with 4 different girls in all from Carolina's (I think).
The one name I remember was Sophia from Colombia... pretty cute face although a bit ethic (not that that's a bad thing) but probably the most amazing body I've ever seen. All natural and large beautiful breasts, and ass and legs to die for and great in the sack. I guess I remember her the most because the night I was with her the club was packed and after a couple beers at the bar I moved to another spot and she walked up to me. We danced, (pretty erotically) for like 20 minutes and this really amped up the sexual tension. She was super fun and sweet, left her $50 (which included a $10 tip). Gotta say, she really enjoyed what she does.
There were overall, some really good looking girls at Carolina's. I hooked up with a blonde from Medellin, who for the life of me I can't remember her name, but was super sweet and very willing. The first time I saw her, which was the night before when I hooked up with Sophia I thought she was maybe some other tourist's girlfriend cause of her looks, she looked like a California girl, I'd say she was an 8 easy. I do remember her saying she won't be back as she didn't like St. Maarten too much, she was 23 and had a 9 year old back home!, man they start young back in Colombia, lol. She was very nice and we even showered together.
Anyway, overall I can't recommend Carolina's enough, which to me blew Seamen's away. Maybe somehow I missed most of the hotties at Seamen's but I only saw a couple there that were worth being with. The other club's I visited - Crystal, Casa Blanca, Petite Chateau, weren't worth even visiting, although I stopped back in each twice just to make sure I wasn't missing anything. Was in each of those for like 1 beer (if that) and left... the girls there I saw I wouldn't even let them pay me... lol.
Scored some bud the first night (not really good, but hey i was on vacation, talked him down to $10, got 2 nice joints : ) in front of Carolina's one night, and another night a local helped me pick my car up out of a drainage ditch I had slid over with one of my tires (it was wet and I was drunk, bought him some drinks and we went to Petite Chatuea, other wise that was the only club I couldn't find on my own). Club was horrible, girl was horrible (although probably one of the best looking in that club which wasn't saying much, but I was really loaded that night so I said what the hell, basically she wouldn't do doggy so I said I'm out and never came back).
The locals are really cool I must say, the island though wasn't what I expected but I had a great time and I even picked up a local bar tender at one of the places near my hotel I was having lunch at. Actually she picked me up and offered to bring to a good Indian restaurant near Maho.
Sorry I couldn't be more specific with the girls' names and such, but it was my first time so I wasn't so meticulous on the notes as I was just absorbing everything and having a drunken good time. I'll definitely be back soon, I think this time I'll take one back to the hotel for the night, seems worth it. The only reason I hesitated doing so this time around because my Spanish is really bad, and talking with one of these girls after 10 minutes seemed awkward unless we were getting busy. So, I'll be working on my espanol in the meantime : ).
I do want to say thanks to all you guys on this board, the info here (especially the chica language for gringos and directions) that I found in the St. Maarten posts was super helpful. Long post I know and probably not even that helpful, but what the hey, this was my first mongering and you guys are the only one's I will tell of my exploits to, what happens in St. Maarten stays in St. Maarten.
Cheers,
T
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How does one travel from SXM to either Medellin / Bogota?
I am interested in visiting a friend who has since returned to her home.
Sadly US based online travel systems keep trying to route me back through the states to fly there and the prices seem excessive for such a short flight.
Any help? Or recommended travel services?
Thanks in advance.
on a side note: for as much as people complained about natalie - she did the hottest dance I have ever seen for me to the song 'Don't Cha'. A month later I still can't stop thinking about it.
Infinity
Infinity:
Travelling to Colombia is surprisingly difficult from SXM. I have a friend that lives there and travels back and forth, and the best way they seem to have found is to go from SXM to Curacao (CUR) then to Colombia. There are direct flights from SXM to CUR, but I think with how the times are you have to stay the night in Curacao.
See this link for flight info:
[url]http://www.airsxm.com/flightschedule.php#express[/url]
Has anyone realized that this forum is one of the busiest on the ISG? Even better than that we hardly have people who waste time and space with nonsense. I hope we can keep it up.
Anyway I promised a report on “Carolina” from Carolina. I’m sure this is not her real name but who the hell cares? After two unsuccessful attempts to hook up with Mel, I eventually found “Carolina” who has to be the best fuck in St. Maarten.
She says that she is 23 but she looks more like 18-19. Dark wavy hair and a mole near her chin. Slim with a nice ass and small tits. I walked in at about 5 in the afternoon and went straight for the bar where she was sitting alone looking bored.
I was surprised that none of the dozen or so gringos in the house did not go for her. I think the guys go after the big breasted bleach blondes more. But they did not know what they were missing.
After introducing myself in the worst Spanish on earth I quickly popped the question about spending time with her in her room. She was the standard $40 job for half and hour. It is amazing that there is this invisible cartel among the chicas on the island. Whatever happened to the free market?
Anyway, I quickly move to part two which has to do with the availability of anal services. She asked about the size of my cock and I lied and said something like “medio”. Her rate for such a service was $50. I was worried that she might back out at the last minute and offer me the extra $10 back. This had happened two nights before during my first ever visit to Carolina when I picked a tall slim one with jello breasts and she realized in bed that to get my entire cock in her ass would mean she would have to open up more than she ever had to in her life. It was too late for her because by the time she said something about getting part of my money back I was already balls deep in her rectum.
Well back to “Carolina” we went to the room and I kept kissing her all over. She has such a beautiful body and smiled throughout the whole experience. I thought about DATY action with her but thought I might spend too much of my 30 minutes trying to tongue fuck her in her pussy and ass.
After the customary blowjob which was not the very best because she refused to play with my balls as instructed. She asked me how I would like to stick my cock in her ass. I told her I wanted her to sit on my cock. She squeezed what looked like about half a tube of KY on my cock and I noticed that she did not put any on her asshole. I thought this might spell trouble because if she gets uncomfortable during the adventure she might want to finish me off with my cock in her pussy instead.
I went about half way in her rectum and then I realized that she was in a little bit of pain, so I asked her to go on her hands and knees and to come to the end of the bed. Believe it or not even though the porno movies like this particular position, it is not the best one for anal. You get full penetration much more easily with the chica on her back and her legs on your shoulders. So we did some shallow doggy anal for a few minutes and then I asked her to lie on her back and to raise her legs.
This is where the story should really start because with a smile on her face she took my entire cock in there. Anal lovers also know that the best ass fuck is one where you get the “pop” experience when you enter fully and the chica shakes under you. Fucked her hard in the ass for about 15 minutes and had to slow down a few times to make sure I did not cum too quick.
When I finally came I fell like a ton of bricks on the bed beside her and she kissed me on my cheek. Then she got up and used a wet napkin to take the condom off and washed me off under the shower. This was a first class experience with a first class chica.
Mel I am almost happy I did not meet you as planned because I might have never met “Carolina”. The next time I would have my first TLN experience with her. I promised her I would pay more attention to her pussy next time but that her ass would still be mine. My name is not Alan for nothing.
I decided to try some new girls this week. The first one is Claudia.
Blonde, pretty, very light skin, large breasts (probably implants, but very nice, with large dark nipples), older (mid 30s), from medellin, 3 children.
This woman either likes sex or is a great actress. a most energetic partner. Great asian cowboy position, moving up and down rapidly. In mish she grabs your buns and pulls you tight and then thrusts underneath you. Excellent kisser too, dfk. Licked me all over. Found a few new erogenous zones.
Unlike other women, naked in bed claudia looks younger and happier than in the bar. Good english.
Wonderful woman.
-zing
[QUOTE=Sxmperson101]Infinity:
Travelling to Colombia is surprisingly difficult from SXM. I have a friend that lives there and travels back and forth, and the best way they seem to have found is to go from SXM to Curacao (CUR) then to Colombia. There are direct flights from SXM to CUR, but I think with how the times are you have to stay the night in Curacao.
See this link for flight info:
[url]http://www.airsxm.com/flightschedule.php#express[/url][/QUOTE]
The girls fly on DAE to Curucao (daily at about 11am) see link above. Then their either take Aeropostal through caracas to bogota, or Avianca direct to Bogota. An overnight is likely in curucao.
-zing
First off, I just wanted to say this forum rocks! I already know most of what gets posted but you guys are great for taking the time to do it. I will be filming adult films in SXM from December 13- January 4th and I need extra male actors who are willing to work for free. Your face does not need to be shown much if at all. If anyone is interested please email me at [blue][Email address deleted by Admin][/blue]
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Ok if you are interested post a reply with info.
Yep, I'm ready to start a new career. But sorry, your Email has been deleted. Louisa had showed me your business card, but I did not write it down. If you want to contact me, try another forum were you can PM me under the same name: [url]www.youppie.net[/url]. It's in french, but at least registering and PM is available for free.
I just got back from St Martin.
Having spent the last 13 days there, I can hardly walk.
I spent 10 wonderful days and nights with Melissa from Carolinas. Room 14.
It started out poorly as I had spent a few days mongering before picking her up.
Knowing about the chica telegraph-, I stayed away from Carolinas.
When I picked her up at the Columbian restaurant on the corner of arch road, she said she needed to visit an Amiga at seaman’s. I had just left there. Therefore, I said I would wait in the car while she went in.
When she came out, she had fire in her eyes. She said her Amiga said I was in seaman’s and was wearing a green shirt, which I was. When confronted I did the true gentlemanly thing and lied. Your Amiga must be confused I am only for you.
I believe she knew I was lying but the subject was never brought up again.
We had such a wonderful time I could not even begin to describe it.
A total GFE. Having her away from Carolinas for 10 days, we were both sad that she had to go back to work. It really pains me to have brought her back to work. We were both very sad.
It is such a bad and degrading way to earn a living. She is supporting her mother and daughter. They live in a house that is 4 x 12 meters and is one of 11 children raised in that house. A tough life her father died when she was 11...
She is intelligent and sweet when you get to know her with incredibly soft skin. The rest you will have to find out for yourself. I am sure that if you spend some time with her you will also have a great experience. A half hour in the back will not get you a GFE but it is a good start.
Her roommate #14 Nicole is supposed to be VERY HOT but leaves December 10.
She has a boy friend who takes her out over the weekend for $800- for 24 hours-I wonder what she does ????? If Melissa was not there I would have definitely liked to have tried to jump start her engine.
As a PS, I asked the forum about a girl with braces and a fantastic figure with a beautiful chest. Melissa mentioned that she knew I was asking about her. HEY GUYS--LETS KEEP THIS INFO CONFIDENTIAL. She could have only gotten that info from one of the list members. Just like zing my cover was blown—lets keep it just between us guys—OK???
Her name was Lucia room 6 and has gone back to Columbia- did anyone do her??
Comments on a few side trips:
Brissa Seaman’s –room 8 Cute Petite Great body terrific boobs but lacks experience.
Claudia in defiance #220 - I had her 4 times 1st time was fantastic and it got better a definite must do.
Johanna Maria in Seamans is still wild in bed with all orifices available but she has put on a few pounds. Since last time
Marisol room #1 replaced Nancy at casa Blanca ok in bed but a lot of fun in the bar.
Anna casa Blanca #11 fair very tall blond watches the clock to the second
Lucero- Seamans is in room #13 very enjoyable session slight GFE
Catherine Seamans #18 no dfk no fingers – mechanical big in the butt
I went to Defiance Claudia saw me and rushed over and I said I wanted to see the previously mentioned Gisela. Claudia seemed hurt but introduced me. Gisela is very cute nice tits-when questioned in the bar she said no bbbj. I figured ok I could live with that because she was highly recommended. When we got to the room she asked for $ up front. I was insulted and wondered what her other rules were. I said lo siento pero no interesante and walked out and did Claudia again for on hour. Claudia is a definite good time with Fantastic oral and manual skills – a must do. She also leaves about December 20.
MEL
Alan,
sorry we didn't hook up.
do you know when carolina is leaving Carolinas?
thanks
mel
I started at Carolina this time, about 1130am, continuing my goal of trying some new girls. I came with a list of names from the ISG forum (thanks guys!). First person I saw was Mel from ISG, delivering his girl Melissa back to work as he was getting ready to leave the island. Quick greeting and then goodbye.
I looked around Carolina, lots of cruise ship crew and other guys, many pretty girls that I did not recognize. As I was standing at the back of the bar sipping my drink, a young woman with dark curly hair, light brown skin (morena) and a slim curvy figure came up and said hello. Her name was Carolina (see previous report by Alan I think). Bright, cheery, cute, natural medium breasts. After a long talk in Spanish (she has a little English, not much) and many laughs, we tried to head to her room, but it was not available, so we used rm 1 instead (another girl's room). This was a bit of a problem, since she could not let me use any of the towels in the room to dry off after a shower (paper towels work after a fashion I discovered). On the other hand, it meant that we could listen to some romantic latino music on the other girl's stereo.
Carolina and I gave each other relaxing massages and I found that she is an excellent kisser. However, she insisted on a condom for the BJ, which is a negative for me, given my age and need for stimulation! I began to kiss her all over her body and when I got to her chocha (pussy) I found it clean and sweet smelling, so I decided "what the heck?" - she may not do chupa without a condom, but I can chupa her. Things started quietly and softly and slowly, but eventually she was shaking and quivering. After 10 minutes of warm up, she seemed to have a 5 minute orgasm. After that she was a bit detached, like a rag doll. She asked if I could be her novio (boy friend). Sex in 5 or 6 positions was excellent and afterwards we had a nice cuddle and showers. I left her the music CD, which surprised her a lot. About an hour in total.
I spent some time in the Carolina bar and on the sofa in the hotel lobby and didn't see another girl that I wanted to approach next (and I felt that I still needed a rest).
So I went over to Seamans Club. It had only one half as many men and the same number of girls, so the girls were complaining about slow work. I think Carolina's reputation has spread and supplanted Seamans - last year at this time it was the other way around.
I greeted many of my friends, but since I was on a quest for new girls, I sat down next to a very petite and pretty girl with large breasts and blond-brown hair and brown eyes. I had smiled at her over the last 2 weeks, but never talked before. Turns out her name is Lorena - the girl that Routard had the long session with. I told her that my friend Routard recommended her and always talked about her - how he couldn't get her out of his mind. After I repeated the story of being interrupted by her boss's meeting, she remembered Routard and wondered why her never came back. I assured her that he would have if he could and probably would soon. We talked on and off for 45 minutes, and I talked to a few other girls, and I agreed to go to Lorena's room, but her roommate Ximena (yes the same Yimena of the DATY orgasm technique, see previous reports) was in the room for a very long session. By the time that Ximena was back, Lorena and I were well acquainted.
In the room, she was as Routard described. Slim, young figure, with very large natural breasts. Full of energy and determined. Also enjoyed having a massage and a very long DATY. I thought I was going to be too big for her, but she handled it easily and through many positions and 30 solid minutes of sex. No kissing on the lips or BBBJ, so not a perfect GFE, but a charming and sexy woman. Told me she had 2 orgasms and was surprised I didn't notice them. Our session lasted 50 minutes in total.
Epilogue
As I came back in the bar after my second new girl, I said good bye to Joanna Maria and Lucero. When Lucero found that I was going away and that she would be gone before I was back in St Maarten, she asked when was she going to get another massage. So I said now and took her back to her room (13). My intention was to actually give her a massage, as I had just left Lorena's room 2 minutes before. And this is what she was ready for, although I am certain she expected it to merge into sex after a time.
Both naked, working with baby oil, I massaged her shoulders and back strongly and then her calves and feet and thighs and lower back and bum. Not overtly sexy, but Lucero was getting turned on. After a long time and a lot of whimpering from her, I kissed her lightly down her back and into her bum, then turned her over and repeated the massage on the front, but this time including the breasts, nipples and pussy lips in my attention. Once she was turned over and looking at me, she tried to touch me and give me a massage and a blow job, but I stopped her. "No work" I said, "just relax." Then I snuggled up and kissed around her face and lips and nipples and down to her pussy. Part of the total service I told her. Stop wiggling your hips - you are not supposed to work. After quite a bit of this, we were both turned on - it had now been about 40 minutes since my last session. During the massage, we had a long chat in Spanish. I asked her what she thought of my fantasy of a chica refuge house (see previous reports) and she got right into it.
Lucero turned on her side and snuggled up spoon fashion. My cock slid between her bum cheeks, which were covered in baby oil. This felt very nice, so I started slowly rubbing up and down. Then I slipped my cock between her oily thighs and started gently stroking my cock up and down her pussy entrance. At this point she reached down with her fingers and tickled my glans (the underside of the head) with her fingernails while I slowly pumped her from the rear. I was quite surprised how hard and aroused I got after my previous workouts. After 10 minutes, I turned Lucero over to face me and without expending much energy, Lucero poured baby oil in her hand and gave me a long, gentle handjob, during which I fingered her pussy from behind and slipped my little finger in her ass. All of this with a slow, massage-like pace. Very unusual.
I ended up on top of her, face to face, kissing gently and rubbing my cock on her thigh. We had been at this for about 55 mintues at this point and I think she was expecting and ready for bareback sex, but I chose to just end it there, kneeling between her thighs with my cock pointed straight at her pussy. I don't know if she was relieved or disappointed or both.
-zing
Thanks Zing for taking care of Lorena and remembering me to her. And yes, I'll be back soon for her.
And by the way, you are getting closer and closer to the danger zone. I will not give any lessons, I didn't manage not to cross the borders too once. Take care!
Routard
Routard,
what do you feel is the danger zone ?
mel
I think he means the danger zone is bareback sex with the prostitute. That is not a good idea, at all.
Bareback sex is one, but there are others too...
Hey Again guys! I think you can look forward to some very intersting posts from me in the near future detailing my porn exploits in SXM. Question: Does anyone know of any hot and young european or french girls who would do video? Possibly dancers etc. I must admit I am loyal to the chicas but I figure I will ask anyway. Also, If there are any of you guys out there would would like to do a video with some chicas let me know - my email can be found in my last post below.
Routard,
1 st i would love to meet you.
please pm me when you will next be in SXM.
i don't see the difference between DATY and Bareback.
do you?
fair winds,
mel
Good question Mel. There is the question of the level of risk for HIV. But there is also the risk of other STDs. I know. I know. There is nothing better than BB anything. Can you remember your last BB encounter? DATY is also dangerous for the same reason.
All of us dream for a vaccine so we can fuck Carolina up the ass without a condom and lick both holes. But that day hasn't reached yet. Sorry.
I think perhaps the "danger zone" Routard is speaking of is emotional rather than physical. It can be easy to fall for a chica. It can be also easy to fantasize about breaking up with a wife to hunt the perfect chica and live happily ever after.
But that rarely works out and can sometimes cost you a broken heart or an empty bank account. (or both).
Danger comes in many forms....
pogo
Yes, there is a risk for many STDs. HIV -> get AIDS, and die. Hepatitis C -> get cirrhosis, and die. Herpes -> get busted by the wife when you have an outbreak, she kills you, you die. Also, you give the wife Herpes, and then if she wants to have kids, can pass to the kids and cause all sorts of problems at birth, kid can die.
The bad thing is that the STDs you really have to worry about, we don't have a cure for. (and that's why you have to worry about them!) Taking prophylactic antibiotics *will not* help you in any of the above cases (they are viruses, antibiotics are against bacteria.)
You run greater risks with bareback sex, less with DATY, and even less with DFK (a lot of people maintain that DFK is extremely safe, but why take the chance? It is your life, afterall.)
And for those of you that like to lick the "culo", just be careful. So many parasites, viruses, and bacteria are spread through this way, called "fecal-oral." That's just a world of trouble waiting to happen. Just be careful with whatever you do!
While we are on the subject of STDs does anyone know of a doctor in SXM who can do std tests? I would perfer HIV PCR DNA. While I'm down in SXM filming I would like to bring each chica to get tested and inspected visually even if we wont get the results until after we shoot.
I went to Seamen's Club a few years ago. Ran across an absolutely beautiful chica. I don't remember her name. In her room, as we were 'doing the deed', the condom broke. Hell, no need to stop at that point. If she had an STD, I'd certainly been exposed to it after that. Might as well go ahead and get a good nut. I showered, pissed, and cleaned myself very well in her bathroom immediately afterwards. It didn't matter. I caught a case of 'something' that was so bad, I had to spend 6 weeks on 2x 750mg Cipro to get rid of it. Worst shit I've ever seen. Wouldn't wish it on anyone. Ever! It was most certainly a resistant strain of something.
Fortunately, I had already had the Hep A and be vaccines, and since then, I've had all of the STD tests each year (HIV, Hep be & see, Syph, Chlamydia) and I'm OK.
Guys, be careful with the STD's. Don't let their beauty make you do things that put you at risk. These girls are certainly beautiful, but beautiful doesn't mean clean.
I had 2.5 hours free in phillipsburg, so I went to seamans club to wish joanna maria a happy birthday and have a final session. Since she was the best provider for me of the remaining girls, I picked up a box of chocolates, added 3 cds, and threw in 3/4 of a dominos pizza.
I entered the club, went straight to joanna maria, gave her a kiss, presented my pile of gifts, pulled her to her feet and suggested we discuss her birthday in her room.
For one hour I made her birthday very pleasant and she made little zinger happy twice. When I passed her over the day before she was disappointed and thought she would never see me again. This made today's visit a complete surprise and totally GFE (as I planned! Zing, you are devious).
When we finally returned to the bar, I gave her a big hug and made certain the other girls saw it, then left.
At carolina I had another session with carolina. She is young and beautiful and full of nice energy, but I don't think she has much experience as a provider. She will be at carolina until feb.
That's all for 3 weeks... But lots of other guys are now posting about st maarten.
-zing
written from Flemings hotel next to [url=http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=535240&postcount=1423]FKK Palace[/url], but posted 4 days later from an airport internet cafe due to technical difficulties.
Hey guys,
I have found a place that can order a PCR HIV test in SXM from a lab on the french side. The consult is $25 and I'm not sure how much the test is. PCR tests are far superior to other tests because they can detect HIV much earlier than the standard test which is key if the person was just recently infected. If anyone wants to get tested you can find more info here: [url]http://www.aidsmap.com/en/orgs/85BAE3E7-0887-4748-B505-752CC4626966.asp[/url]
I went to Carolinas tonight. I was in a rush, so I went in and meant business! I got a beer, drank it, and looked at the girls. Slim pickings tonight! Seemed like a lot of girls were heading out on TLNs. Then I saw a really beautiful one coming out. I went up to her and said Hi. I had talked to her once before, but wasn't able to stay long enough to try her out. Her name was Natalia. She told me she's been here about two weeks. But, I seem to rememberh er name from these boards? I'll look after this post.
Beautiful girl, slim, nice breasts, kinda blonde hair. 24 from Colombia. I asked to bring her in the back. CBJ, CFS, nice. She was pretty quick with it, but I was being quick too, so I don't blame her. Nice girl, speaks english well. Will repeat.
Zing, do you know if Lucero is still here? I miss the massages!
Regarding HIV tests, I understand that there is relatively new oral based test that provides a result in about 20 minutes. In the USA, this test can only be administered at a health facility. Perhaps some other countries permit this test to be purchased for use at home.
The ladies at Carolinas said they have a mandatory STD sceening (blood test and pelvic exam) every week. The proper use of condoms, coupled with the sex workers' regular testing makes me feel that the odds of contracting a STD are very low in SXM.
zing has left the building.
he is in asia after a 4 days fkk tour in germany. just follow his adventures on those threads.
regarding nathalia, the cute petite blonde [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url] b itch with braces, i've met her for the last time end of october and she was about to leave, having finished her 3 month contract, so i doubt it's the same girl.
routard
By the way last time I was in SXM i did film with a Natalia with braces who was dirty blond, this was back in August but when she said she arrived 2 weeks before I knew she was lying. Didn't care though the footage is amazing.
Where can we buy your porn movies? I never look to porn movies (sorry to say that), but I would love to watch it if it is with girls I have fucked myself (less frustrating) :D.
i also had a few sessions with natalia.
how can i get a copy?
fair winds,
mel
As of right now, I don't know where or if these videos will ever be for sale but I will bring you guys a copy when I am down on the 12th. Hopefully I will shoot 8-12 more scenes this trip and that would really be something to see.
Hey Guys,
is no one getting laid in St Maarten.
i need some fresh names for my mongering in January.
i hear from my friends at Carolinas that there is a whole new batch of Chicas.
please check them out and report back.
i hate trying uncharted waters.
mel
Hi Guys,
I will be in St. Maarten on 26th of Dec. If anyone has information about any of the clubs (brothels) will be open on that day and if what time like Le Petite Chateau, Crystals,Carolina, Seamans, Defiance, Casa blanca, etc.
If they they are open at what time the doors will be open.
Thanks
Hi,
petite is a shit hole--
so is the place across from Carolinas.
I would go to carolinas- they have choice and prime chicas.
It is of course the day after christm,as --so who jnows when they open .
however their normal hours are:
Carolina and seamans open at 11-11:30
Defiance 12:00
Casa blanca 12:30
Mel
Hi Madan,
If you want chicas (colombianas, etc) Carolinas is the place, followed by Seamans.
MEL365,
Thank you very much for your quick response, This will be very helpful to me.
Only problem is how to find out if they are open as usual or not on 26th Dec. If some one has the phone # I can contect them directly.
Once again thank you very much.
Based upon the fact that you seem to be in for one day i assume you are on a cruise.
it is a $10- cab to carolinas or seamans and .
just go for a ride and see what happens.
I'll bet they will be open but probably later.
there are no numbers that i have to call just go for it.
send the wife shopping.
mel
Hi Mel and Smxpreson,
Thanks for help. I will try to find out and have success I will post for everyone to know.
Hey guys,
I'm coming to SXM today. I will be filming some movies with the chicas for fun if anyone wants to be involved let me know, you can wear a mask on camera. If anyone knows which are the hottest chicas right now please post it up.
Just returned from 3 weeks away and went directly to Carolinas, Seamans and Defiance. If you want to read all my travel sex experiences, just click on my username to the left and select "Find more posts by Zing23". If you just want to read my comparison of FKK clubs to St Maarten, [url=http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=536191#post536191]read this post.[/url] After 3 more FKK visits and my return visit to St Maarten, I still stand by that comparison. I would just add the following thoughts:
After the elegance of FKK clubs, I found the girls in St Maarten a little tacky in their prostitute outfits, versus the naked girls of FKK. On the other hand, the St Maarten girls are more approachable. You can make a small investment in a drink for them and then proceed to talk and snuggle and have foreplay for quite a while, then make up your mind about going further. At FKK club, the typical naked beauty just asks "would you like to have sex with me" and wanders off if the answer is no. Of course there are exceptions at FKK clubs; some girls who are a little overweight, or not quite so pretty, or not quite so young, or just better at marketing, specialize in schmoozing the clients, especially the older men.
Back to St Maarten, I visited Carolinas Club from 8pm to 1215am.
My first girl was Kenny, recommended. YMMV. Medium height and build, with natural large breasts, curly long dark hair, morena from Cali with face that is pretty Indian/Hispanic, but not beautiful. Started with some very nice massage, kissing and caressing, but went quickly for the condom for blowjob and completion. I stopped her with a massage and then long DATY. She was either close to climax for 5 minutes or climaxed for 5 minutes. Not sure which. Then followed nice BBBJ (at my request), RCG, CG, dogging and finished in mish. Totally nice experience. I was considering taking her back to the hotel for the night, but quickly downing one post-coital drink, she excused herself and wandered off. So I got distracted....
Next, a went on impulse with a duo: Marcella (short blond with big implants) and Karly (medium black hair, implants). Together they gave a PSE performance, not convincing, but fun. Conclusion: after the novelty wears off, 2 girls at once is usually disappointing. Start with 1 girl and let her suggest an additional girl for the 3rd session if you want.
Carolinas was packed with very pretty and even beautiful woman. My third session at just before midnight was with a brunette. Good service, but overacting. It was getting late and I forget the name and even the details...
Seamans Club - 1215am to 1245am
Selection of girls seemed second tier compared to Carolinas, except for Lorena (see previous reports) and Brisas (very cute, but rated poor by Mel) and a couple of young brunnetes that I talked to on my way out.
Defiance - 1245 to 2pm.
A few cute new girls among the ordinary, but I chose to repeat with Claudia rm 220. Massage, BBBJ (at my request), handjob, plenty of time and effort, but it was impossible to climax at this point!
It is good to be back.
-zing
Zing,
We are unable to pm you as your inbox is over your quota. Still in SXM.
I agree Zing Carolinas seems to be much better than the others. Ana Maria (i forget the room number) was decent gfe. fun. fun. fun.
hi,
any details of anna marie--what does she look like? --room number?
thanks
mel
Madan,
I may be wrong on this but a girl told me that all girls at Carolina would get time off on 24th December to have a big fiesta on the beach somewhere. I therefore assume Carolina is closed on that day (or part of that day) but open on 26th Dec. Or I could be completely wrong about this, as this was told me in Spanish (by Ana Maria in fact) and my Spanish is not good!! ;-)
My experience is that 11 am is a good time to show up, as all available girls will be present the next hour. Another good time is 8 pm when the girls come back from their siesta. Siesta time I think is between 6 and 8 pm. If business is slow, there may also be fewer girls present between 2 (or 4) and 6 pm. On a late Saturday night not so long ago, practically all girls were gone (on TLNs I guess), leaving a ratio at a certain time at 4:1, i.e. 4 men for each girl, gentlemen! But usually the ratio is favourable.
And yes, Ana Maria is a very sweet girl. Colombiana (as 95% of the girls are), medium height, thin, curvy with enhanced chest, pretty face, and straight long black hair. English almost non-existant. A little shy sometimes. Would not agree when I told her how pretty I thought she was. Looks 7- 8 in my book, but I think YMMV (check chemistry before deciding to go further). Shares room with another beauty, Camilla, the only black girl there at the moment I think (sorry, don't recall room number, but it was somewhere in the middle of the hotel complex).
Recently there were over 30 girls at Carolina, of which at least 20 were present at peak times (see above). I would rate at least 10 of them a 7 or better in looks. But YMMV, and sometimes the 5- 6 category girls were better providers. Then again, many of these girls will go home for Christmas and this information may not apply any longer.
Enjoy!
I may be in St Maarten over the New Years weekend. I'm wondering what the brothels will be like...busy?...not busy? ....closed?....Open?
Anyone else going to be there around then?
pogo
Routard,
i read your report of surinam.
a world class report.
i don't know if i could have resisted that girls charms.
absolutely wonderful.
fair winds,
mel
Thanks Mel,
Dear SXM fans you will love my amazing trip report in Surinam:
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=543514&postcount=23[/url]
It seems that former Dutch colonies are always a good bet. I had the time of my life, Suriname is definitely to be considered as a mongering destination. From Saint Maarten take Air Caraibes to French Guyana and cross the boarder. However I would not recommend to do it illegally like I did, I have been informed I could have get serious trouble as passports are scanned for stamps at the hotel desks. I have had no trouble as I had chosen to go to a "love motel" were they don't ask for ID.
Compared to Saint Maarten, the destination is of course less touristic and convenient, but safe. Prices are very low, TLN for 100$. There are about 7 brothels too, but they are much bigger than in SXM. Like in SXM, girls are on contract and come in the classier brothels from Brazil and the low end brothels from Dominican Republic. Definitely GFE available!!!!
The Colombianas made me start learning Spanish, I have started this week learning Brazilian and plan a huge trip in Brazil on july!!!
Since Routard's post on Suriname I've started to explore the Saint Maarten forum as well (here in Suriname people are more focused on Curacao and Aruba).
Seems that I'll have to visit your wonderful island asap. I also planned to go to Belem (brazil) where most of our working girls come from, but due to some problems couldn't make it this year.
I've started learning portuguese thanks to these girls and it's the best and most inspiring way to learn another language.
Here is a very good website to learn this beautiful language. Hope it will help you as good as it helped me (and it's free!).
[url]http://www.sonia-portuguese.com/[/url]
[url]http://www.sonia-portuguese.com/text/phrases.htm[/url]
Welcome to the Saint Maarten thread, here is all you need to know:
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=399340&postcount=50[/url]
Did you check my Belem report too?
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=406087&postcount=53[/url]
Thanks for the Portuguese link, I need it.
Hey guys,
After reading Routard's report about his illegal night in Surinam, it made me wonder if anyone had tried "rescuing" one of these girls? Some of the girls are really nice and enjoyable. But, it's a job. Sometimes I ask them if they like their job (I freeze and start asking stupid questions!) and they say no, and sometimes they say yes. I dunno. It just seems like they must be in a pretty bad situation if they leave home to come be a prostitute. Just a rough life?
I write this note not as a flame but as a note for information.
I have been friendly with working girls for over 30 years. In Fact, a madam of a rather fancy New York house was my girlfriend for over 10 years.
Sex work has to be the most disgusting degrading work on the planet.
Particularly in St martin many of the girls are not old time hoes but relatively new, if not novice sex workers.
I received a note from one of the girls last week. She was beaten by on John .
Another one fucked her and took off the rubber ½ ways through. She was hysterical.
That might be great for us north Americans and Europeans but the HIV rate amongst the locals is very high. The girl is still terrified.
How would you like to go down on a person who hasn’t washed for a week, or who has a bush like the Amazon jungle?
I feel particularly sorry for these Columbian girls, as they tend to be very very sweet and loving.
As Routard mentioned it is heart breaking to bring the girls back to the “house” after having a real GFE and returning to their shit.
I feel particularly guilty and sad after taking a girl out for a week and living like boyfriend girlfriend, Jacuzzi, beach, boating, dinners and then knowing that tomorrow they have to fuck anyone with a couple of twenties in their pocket.
Regardless of what the girls say, they do not like this work.
Of course, this is a forum about sex for hire but I just had to respond to your E-mail-mail.
Mel,
Great insight! It has to be really bad work for them. I've thought a lot of the same things you wrote. That's why I was curious if anyone had ever tried rescuing them from the job?
I totally agree with Mel365.
I still have to meet the girl whose childhood dream it was to work as a prostitute in some club in a foreign country far from friends and family.
Even though you’ll see them singing and dancing and having a good time in the club, the reality is that they have a tough life.
It seems there is no huge difference between the Columbianas in St.Martin and the Brasileiras here in Suriname. Most of our girls are between 18-30, divorced or single moms with 1 or 2 kids or high-school drop-outs from poor parts of their town.
It sure is a sad situation because they are really very sweet.
Concerning “rescuing” them: All of them know what they are going to do abroad. They are in the clubs on a contract basis and they can refuse clients they don’t like.
In Suriname, they can either go back after their period is done or stay longer. The longer they stay the more they can earn for themselves and the family back at home. Some go back to their country and return after some time, others simply just stay here without going back.
Many of the girls have a “boyfriend” in the club and it also happened that they got married. Some of these marriages lasted, others didn’t.
So what I’m trying to say is: If the girls weren’t lured under false pretexts, try to accept the situation just like they do.
The best thing you can do is just to be nice to them. A BFE will get you a GFE and that’s the whole purpose of what we do.
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[QUOTE=Sxmperson101]It just seems like they must be in a pretty bad situation if they leave home to come be a prostitute. Just a rough life?[/QUOTE]In addition to what Mel mentioned, some establishment in SXM seem a lot more "hardcore" than others, and conditions in SXM in general are a lot worse than even in San Nicolas in Aruba, where I've seen girls who refused to go TLN on Friday/Saturday nights becasue they thought they could make more by working in the bar. I haven't seen that in SXM yet. It must be very hard to go back to those "bars" and service scary looking and often dangerous locals after spending time in some nice resorts.
As far as I can tell most of them don't do it to buy drugs or a new Mercedes. Most have a child at home. So yes, I think it's a "rough life" for most of them, and they are in SXM becasue of necessity, or, in other words, to earn a little more than what's possible back home.
[QUOTE=Sxmperson101]
I wonder if anyone had tried "rescuing" one of these girls? Some of the girls are really nice and enjoyable. But, it's a job. Sometimes I ask them if they like their job (I freeze and start asking stupid questions!) and they say no, and sometimes they say yes. I dunno. It just seems like they must be in a pretty bad situation if they leave home to come be a prostitute. Just a rough life?[/QUOTE]
The girls certainly have a tough job. I agree with the other commenters. In another post in the FKK section, I noted that girls in SXM have a number of major worries:
[quote]
1) a girl gets murdered (a girl was strangled at petit chateau club last month)
2) a man steals money or valuables like iPods from the girls room (where they also live)
3) a man is dirty or smelly
4) a man is rough, fast and brutal without worrying about what pain he may be causing.
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I never tried to rescue a girl, but I did have a long experience with a girl who was rescued by someone else. She hated most of the clients at Defiance and was making herself sick over it. Eventually she ran away from the club and moved in with a client on the french side. She didn't want to go back to Colombia, because there was no money or job for her there. But she was in St Martin illegally, with no passport (it is held by the police until they leave). But within a month, she was back in Colombia anyway.
I don't think being rescued worked for her either, because she would beg me to come over and see her when her rescuer was away at work. And sleep with me, and get money gifts from me.
So I don't think it is valid to over-romanticize these working girls either. My attititude is give respect and the benefit of the doubt, but remember that at anytime they may be just telling you what you want to hear.
-zing
[QUOTE=Zing23]So I don't think it is valid to over-romanticize these working girls either. My attititude is give respect and the benefit of the doubt, but remember that at anytime they may be just telling you what you want to hear.
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I agree 100% with you. But i believe that no woman is born to be a hooker, path of life and necessity bring them into the business. No one should blame those girls for that. Problem is that to survive in such environment and to deal with the emotional turmoil, they learn to protect themselves and they modify their attitude towards men, any men. It's probably impossible to "rescue" an experienced hooker. I still hear loud and clear the warning of a working girl that I consider as a good friend: "Nunca te confies a una puta!" However, in my humble opinion this does not apply yet to the girls who just start in the business. And each time I would have liked to rescue a girl, she was a complete newby. What saves me from doing it is that I have my own family to protect.
However, I'm proud to tell I rescued successfully at least once in my life a hooker. This was before I was married and before I became a mongerer. She was 19, and was a semi-pro in a disco doing TLN only. Needless to say, I was not one of her customers, I never paid her, and of course I never took her money. We had a passionate romance. I loved her but I had clearly warned her from the beginning that I could never consider her to be the mother of my future children. At first, she continued with her job while I was dating her. It made me sick of jealousy. But I managed to change her attitude, find her another job, a new environment and new friends. At first, she did it for love, not for herself. But she changed completely. I then disappeared forever to another country. I learned from friends that even after I left, she still continued with her new life and didn't return to prostitution. I hope she now lives happy and is married with a man that unlike me doesn't know anything about her past.
Rescueing a girl does not mean marrying her. But it means a tremendous self investment and not anyone can afford to give it. But anyone can afford to give to all these girls the respect they deserve from us.
Wow, these are some really good posts! So it seems the general consensus is that the best we can really do is just always try to be polite, clean, and respectful. I suppose we're preaching to the choir here. I've been in the places a few times, and seen some of the locals that are trying to hook up, and I've felt sorry for the chicas.
I guess the one thing I kinda do wrong is that I let the chica be in control completely. Like she tells me when to take off clothes, she says when to start sex, etc. I've never yet done anything like the greats here where you try to really improve the BFE that you give to the chica. Maybe I should just start with some simple massaging.
i have always agreed with zing23 and routard in the past, and there again. this is a general topic, however my experience is limited to columbians in sxm and curacao. i have tried on several occasion to have a different type of relation with chicas i particularly fancied. all experiences are very different.
one has left the prostitution because she could not do it anymore. her name's gladys. true, it is the most disgusting thing on earth, especially when you see these trinidadian locals, dirty and uneducated. at the same time the columbians we're talking about know what they are doing, they chose to do so, they were not obliged, they are not exploited and raped before by their "boyfriend". with gladys we saw on two occasions having a more lover's than financial type of relation, but no real love. i consider her as a friend. she was happy with that situation, staying with me. i did not really gave her money but material comfort. still, it was not a genuine girlfriend relations. she got herself out of the job, without my assistance.
another one invited me in cali. her name's maria-elena. there was a chemestry between us, but i finally figured out i did not love her. she was really honest, she did not try to use me as a money provider, and somehow i feel sorry that i could not reciprocate her feelings for me. she stopped her job herself after puting aside what she wanted to.
i felt in love with a couple of other ones. with one of them, sandra, alias johana, we had sex without exchange of money. but i rapidely figured out she was trying to use me, we had an severe exchange of views in our hotel room in bogota, so she left. i suspect she lied to me and had a boyfriend in columbia. i was very naive. i never saw her again. i was really in love with her. another one in curacao was also a dammed lyer, and i was stupid enough to send her money for her to come and see me, like the first one i mentionned, which she of course never did.
on several occasions, some chicas warned me not to fall in love, one in sxm explained me the whole thing, she had a bf in columbia (which she said she did not really love, but he was rather rich, so...). i do not think any of them like this job. a lot fake and gives you a gfe, there are the most dangerous. i believe this work change their personality forever maybe. the ultimate problem is that they finally have a deteriorated image of men, because of us, and at the same time, we have a deteriorated image of them, because we see them as putas, not as genuine women. a balanced relationship needs estime for each other, this has to be rebuild, otherwise there is no hope.
as a conclusion, i think the chance to rescue a girl are minimal. which does not mean there are not existant. but you should have a good reason for that and remain very cautious at all times. do not let her take money out of your wallet without tangible results more than one time. that is already one time too much.
guess what? i am giving a last try with one girl i met in sxm. i can't say i felt in love with her, i have been very honest with her in ths respect. but something special happened between us. i need to know her in depth. i am doing whatever is necessary for her to come and visit me, and we'll see what happen. maybe she is trying to fool me. but is will be the last time at least with a columbian, because i am not going back to the carribean any more.
Ok boys,
Back to the purpose of this forum.
I am headed down to sxm in the next few days- how about some names and room numbers. I hate making like columbus and finding undiscovered new pusssy.
I will only be there for about 15 days so I need some names and room numbers to start reducing the sperm count.
thanks
mel
I noticed this term used in other forums. anyone have a definition when used in reference to a working girl?
thanks
mel
mel, a starfish is a girl that lies there, spreadeagled, without moving, while you do the deed. just like a starfish.
interesting visit to sxm.
i went into carolina bar about 1115am looking for kenney from cali, who i really enjoyed 2 weeks ago (she is in rm 14 now). curly black hair, hispanic/native face, handsome rather than beautiful, natural large breasts, real hips and butt (not the thin teenage figure that routard likes).
at first another girl tried to get my attention by standing in front of me at the bar and giving me a standing lap dance. but then i spotted kenney, who gave a smile when she saw me. I called her over, since girls never interfere when another girl is working on a client. after a greeting and a kiss, the first girl did not move, so i had to ask her "pardon" and slide her away.
i asked kenney for an hour - i think she was a bit flustered, having taken me from another girl, then going for an hour. i put up $6 on the bar, but she said only $3, then corrected herself before I could get out the change. then she guided me to the left, toward the wrong door to the back!
in the room, i put on a cd of romantic latin music and told her it was a xmas gift for her. xmas was not a good day for her, away from home, customers wanting to be cheerful and entertained when she just wanted to cry. i gave her a nice long massage, from neck down to feet. the most important areas to concentrate on are the neck, shoulders, feet and calf muscles (due to the high heel shoes they wear). then kenney asked for a massage on the front as well. I complied, but did not massage her nipples or pussy. I figure they get lots of guys grabbing there, so it would be more arousing to just massage around those areas, only lightly brushing over them by accident. then I lay down between her legs and massaged her pussy with my stomach while I started to kiss her and massage around her breasts.
only after i sensed that she was totally relaxed and turned on did i start kissing her breasts and sucking lightly on her nipples (all the time continuing to massage her pussy with my body). i had used a lot of baby oil for the massage, but this interferes somewhat with later activities, so in future i would use only a little bit and only on the back.
her pussy was freshly shaved and sweet smelling, so i didn't hesitate. as with the first time, she got totally into it. after about 10 minutes of daty, eventually combined with one hand massaging a nipple and the other with two fingers on her g-spot and the little finger in her ass, she climaxed. and just kept climaxing. eventually i moved up for a hug and a kiss (some girls won't kiss you after daty, but kenney was not put off by her own juices). i thought i had gone pretty long, but she asked for more (mas). i snuggled up, fingered her clit and kissed her breasts and I got harder and harder.
kenney moved down for a bbbj. it was great, but didn't last as long as it could have. instead she went for the condom and pushed me on my back and climbed aboard. what followed was the most intense cowgirl i have ever had with a working girl, culminating in another climax for her and her collapsing on my chest.
we switched to mish, doggie, flat doggie and mish again. for a long time. afterwards, she said she felt like she had lost 2 kilos, then gave me a nice massage. i took a long shower and gave her a tiny stuffed animal as a regalo (gift), followed by a little dancing to the music and some kisses. the cd was just on the last song, so we had been in the room for about 70 minutes. I left $80 on the dresser, rather than asking her how much or waiting for her to ask for money.
back in the bar, she talked to her companera (roommate) and hugged me and then asked me if i wanted to share her lunch with her from the room. i said sure, so after about 45 seconds in the bar, we marched back past the curious girls watching us and into the "hotel" again. kenney picked up her takeaway lunch from another girl's room and led me to the girl's private lounge.
you may not have known the girls have a private lounge. it is at the end of the main hallway, where the door opens to a courtyard with a coin laundromat and girl's clothes hanging on lines. the lounge is the end of the hallway and the chairs are two 1 gallon paint cans!
we sat and shared her lunch, which was a colombian meal of sliced cucumber and cabbage with a lime, rice, french fries, spagetti and a nice piece of cooked fish. she said that a columbian guy who lives in st maarten brings the food, it is not from the restaurant. we agreed that everything was fattening except the fish and the cucumber.
this was the first time that a chica has invited me to share a meal and provided the meal as well.
the reason i went into the details of this session, was because she was so GFE, without stepping over into GF mode or asking for gifts/money, etc. in our first session, we had a short conversation first at the bar, but I was distracted talking to melissa at the time (and mel on melissa's cellphone). she started out like a normal, professional, 20 minute suckie-fuckie session and it took a bit of BFE interference on my part to snap her out of it (massage, then daty, etc.) and convert it into a nice long 35 minute GFE session.
the second time, kenney was really hot and attentive, and sexually demanding. i thought you might like to know what i did to elicit this response. i find that every little thing makes a difference in how the girl treats you, including mistakes that are never really forgotten (more on that in my next report, on my subsequent visit to seamans club).
-zing
[QUOTE=Zing23]not the thin teenage figure that routard likes.
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How did you notice this? ;)
after carolina, i did some errands and entered seamans club about 215pm. The place was jammed with guys, standing room only (4 cruise ships in port today), plus local guys (many people in sxm take the entire xmas week off, at least no work ever seems to get done). it seemed like there were no girls, only guys.
but as I walked up to the bar, i spotted a brunette at the end of the dark bar who looked familiar and Lorena (another one of routard's slim, teenage blondes, although this one has boobs). lorena reached out and said hola, even though she was entangled with a potential client. she couldn't close the deal with the guy she was working on, so she started talking to me. she is off to colombia next wed with a suitcase full of gifts for everyone. she plans a long vacation with nothing to do but sleep and quiet.
lorena asked me if my friend routard was ever coming back to st maarten. she missed him. I said I didn't think he would be visiting before next wed, sorry.
then she asked if I had a marc anthony cd for her (on a previous visit i had said i would make one for her). although I had actually forgotten about it, i happened to have a marc anthony cd with me because girls like it. So i got credit anyway for being thoughtful!
as we were talking, the familiar brunette in the corner walked past and disappeared into the girl's eating room. i did a double take. that looks like juliana, a girl from last march!
lorena could see that she wasn't making a sale with me, only friendship, so she wandered off. at this time I notice 5 girls standing and sitting by the stage. I exit the huge crowd of guys and wander over.
among the girls i spotted catarina, a session from november who speaks english and who i didn't plan to repeat with (she always seems like she is laughing at the guys, including me - i know we can be funny, but i like the illusion that the girls don't notice!).
caterine told me that all my friends had gone back to colombia. among the new girls were some very nice looking ones. caterina asked me if i wanted her to fix me up with the dark haired girl i was looking at. I said thanks, but no thanks, when I find one that interests me I can go up and introduce myself. she also mentioned that most of the guys there were just drinking and talking, not going with girls. that may be true, but when i came in the bar there were almost no girls present, so i suspect a little bit of paid sex must have been going on.
then the door to the girls lunch room opened and out walked juliana. yep, i recognize her. I go up and say hello. she says she spotted me immediately when I entered the bar, while i didn't spot her. she still looks good - slim natural figure, dark hair, pretty face. in rm 20.
last year I had this 3 month experience with alexandra of seamans, where i did not go with other girls (at that club!). at the end, alexandra turned me over to juliana and told me that she would look after me.
and she was right. juliana started out from the very first minute as a GFE provider. but after about a month, i started to get wandering eyes. one time when she wasn't around, I went to the room with 2 other girls, who weren't very memorable (rats!). Naturally she heard all about it and went into a disappointed girlfriend routine. whether it was real or not doesn't really matter. it impacted her performance and my reaction to it.
i gave the matter some thought and discussed it with some girls at other clubs. i finally came to the conclusion that I had actually been quite impolite to her.
here is why: if you always go with a selection of girls, the girls accept that and don't think anythng of it. they just work hard to get your attention and get one of the repeats.
however, if you go exclusively with 1 girl, she gains prestige with the other girls. it doesn't imply that she loves you or anthing like that - it is just that a steady customer, especially if he is nice and generous and brings gifts, is the ideal goal for any working girl. and very ego satisfying, in a job that must tend to be soul sucking at times.
when you "cheat" on her, that makes her look foolish in the eyes of the other girls. there is a lot of jealously and competition among the girls. so, even though she was only a paid partner, i apologized to her and didn't cheat on her again. and when she left for colombia, she turned me over to louisa, who was one of my best experiences ever.
the interesting thing is that the sessions with juliana were never quite so perfect after my misstep as they were before. nothing precise that you could identify and complain about. and perhaps it was in my attitude, not hers.
meeting Juliana again was a new experience for me. Since i have only been visiting sxm clubs for 1.3 years, this is the first of the chicas that I know who has come back to sxm. so I invited her to the room.
it would be nice to say that we picked up right where we left off and things only got better, but the session was a bit disappointing. either she or I was holding back. but still a very nice girl who gives a good BBBJ and who i would recomend giving a try.
-zing
[QUOTE=Zing23]after carolina, I did some errands and entered seamans club about 215pm. The place was jammed with guys, standing room only (4 cruise ships in port today), [/QUOTE]Zing, really enjoyed your reports (as always), thanks.
2 questions: when Seamans and Carolina are packed in the middle of the day, what about Defiance and Casa Blanca? Do they have any of the "cruise ship" crowd there too?
Is there anything "special" planned for the new year's eve/day in the "bars" that you've been to recently?
[QUOTE=Lucky Strike]Zing, really enjoyed your reports (as always), thanks.
2 questions: when Seamans and Carolina are packed in the middle of the day, what about Defiance and Casa Blanca? Do they have any of the "cruise ship" crowd there too?
Is there anything "special" planned for the new year's eve/day in the "bars" that you've been to recently?[/QUOTE]
defiance opens in a very relaxed way about 1230pm, but there is never a crowd there in the afternoon. and almost no cruise ship people. this is a perfect time to visit defiance (in the winter mainly, rooms are quite hot in the summer, as there is no a/c). no time limits, no bar fee, pay afterwards, no bar fine to take a girl to the beach, etc. only downside: some hot girls don't bother going down to the bar at this time. so go at night and get their phone numbers, then call them about 1pm! another tip: you can slip into their room earlier thru the side gate, if you have prearranged an earlier visit, say at 1130am.
casa blanca opens about 230 or 3pm, but there are only a few girls in the bar. check the restaurant too, and outside (why are there girls outside, sitting on the rocks around the parking lot? because cellphones don't work in the bar!), if you want to do a survey of available talent. have never seen a cruise ship passenger or crew there.
-zing
I'm going to be in SXM 1/3 - 1/9. Anyone else going to be there?
I am thinking of heading out to Kali's on Friars Beach for the full moon party. Has anyone else here gone to this party? I have heard that it can turn into an orgy sometimes and that the herb is in abundance. I haven't decided if I should chance finding an amateur at the party or if I should stop at one of the casas to bring my own.
pogo
[QUOTE=Zing23] juliana started out from the very first minute as a GFE provider. but after about a month, i started to get wandering eyes. one time when she wasn't around, I went to the room with 2 other girls, who weren't very memorable (rats!). Naturally she heard all about it and went into a disappointed girlfriend routine. whether it was real or not doesn't really matter. it impacted her performance and my reaction to it.
i gave the matter some thought and discussed it with some girls at other clubs. i finally came to the conclusion that I had actually been quite impolite to her.
here is why: if you always go with a selection of girls, the girls accept that and don't think anythng of it. they just work hard to get your attention and get one of the repeats.
however, if you go exclusively with 1 girl, she gains prestige with the other girls. it doesn't imply that she loves you or anthing like that - it is just that a steady customer, especially if he is nice and generous and brings gifts, is the ideal goal for any working girl. and very ego satisfying, in a job that must tend to be soul sucking at times.
when you "cheat" on her, that makes her look foolish in the eyes of the other girls. there is a lot of jealously and competition among the girls. so, even though she was only a paid partner, i apologized to her and didn't cheat on her again. [/QUOTE]
Zing,
I think you make some excellent points here, and it could explain some of my own mistakes on my SXM trip. BTW I had an absolutely fabolous time the first ten days of my vacation, but something went wrong the last few days. I addition to what Zing says, may I add a couple of similar experiences made:
- Try to limit the selection of girls you go with. If the girls get the impression that you go with new girls all the time, after a while they will not work so hard to get their repeat, and trust me, you will miss the attention from the girls(!) and get a less rewarding experience at the club.
- After a TLN, be sure to treat the girl respectfully upon your next visit to the club. It can be difficult to change partner. I know I tried to do it respectfully, and still "failed"; in the sense that the relationship with my TLN got cold and affected my relationship with the other girls (less attention/less friendly attitude). This is also a question of language barriers. The more Spanish you know, the better communication, the lesser misunderstandings, the more fun you have, the better sex you get .... What better motivation can you ask for to learn a new language? ;-) Anyways, next time I will be more selective in my TLN pick. Once you have had a TLN with a girl, it may be hard to move on to the next girl.
Can anyone report a successful trip to Carolina with two TLNs with different girls? I am not sure whether this is possible, but I sure would like to know! :-) Anyone?
The trip was my first mongering tour to SXM, but hopefully others can learn from my mistakes and further comments from experienced SXM mongers, and thereby optimize their experience in the future.
Anyway, as so many others in this thread I can absolutely recommend visits to Carolina and Seaman's. Those colombianas are indeed very sweet and charming, and a huge latina addiction is growing here.
[QUOTE=Zing23]defiance opens in a very relaxed way about 1230pm, but there is never a crowd there in the afternoon. and almost no cruise ship people. this is a perfect time to visit defiance
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[/QUOTE]That's very useful suggestion. I think I sort of been doing that already last summer.
Zing, since you've been a constant presence and our "eyes and ears" on the island for over a year, do you think that without the "cruise ship crowd" girls in Defiance and Casa B. make a lot less than in Seamans and Carolina, and would that translate into better service (attemt to get repeat business?)
During the low season it seemed like girls weren't making as much as they thought they would before coming there, is it like that year round for Defiance and Casa B. girls?
Yes , Im back in SXM on Thursday (january 4th) and will rush straigth to Carolina. If anyone wants to meet me, I'll be there from 6pm till closing. If you don't see me, I might be in a room. :D
Shark, sorry we missed. Mel and Pogo, I'm looking forward to meet you. Zing, what about staying for the night? We could make an ISG meeting!
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During the low season it seemed like girls weren't making as much as they thought they would before coming there, is it like that year round for Defiance and Casa B. girls?[/QUOTE]
i think the defiance and casa b girls do okay in the season. plenty of local guys, some tourists, esp at casa b, local white guys. and the local guys have money. in the dead season, no one has extra money for chicas (except me).
at casa bl you pay the bar before going to the room, even during the early afternoon. but no one checks on the time in the room. girls say they cannot leave at all without a bar fine.
at defiance, no one checks anything in the afternoon. there are probably still some cute girls there now, which i saw when i dropped in at 1am in mid dec.
in general, i did not feel that having the girls really desperate made for better service. the best is an unrushed time during a period when the girls are generally doing well (i.e., they feel positive that they made the right choice coming to sxm).
just my opinion. could be wrong as I cannot read their minds.
-zing
Today I ma back from my cruise and been to St. Maarten. I was there on Dec. 26th day after christmas. My sincere thanks to MEL365 and SMXman for the help and Router for giving directions on the map.
At about 11:30 a.m. I took cab and went straight to the Carolinas. As described did not have any sign but the door was open and was just accross Crystals club which has sign on.
As soon as I entered the bar, there were a few attractive chicas from Colombia greeted me. I set at the bar and in no time there were more than 10 beauties around. Most were from 7to9. very difficult to decide. Funny thing was that I was the only guy with very little speaking knowledge of Spanish. I selected one chica(name I don't like to put here as I did not ask for her permission) about 9 and discussed about my needs and agreed for the amount and went back to her room. Paid $3 for the room at bar.
The room was nice and clean with A.C.and bathroom with tub.
We proceeded with the sex in all possible different positions and ways. I can say I had best time of the life.
I highly recommand Carolina to any monger who is in or planning to visit St. Maarten.
Enjoy
I guess i will be the first ISG monger in sxm tomorrow.
thank you all for your comments.
they have made this past year VERY enjoyable.
mel
[QUOTE=Mel365]I guess i will be the first ISG monger in sxm tomorrow.
thank you all for your comments.
They have made this past year VERY enjoyable.
Mel[/QUOTE]I also want to say thanks. I have learned a whole lot for both mongering and how to treat and woo ladies in general. Thank you to everyone! Hope this is a great year. I'll be back on the island in a few days.
Thanks to everyone who posts on ISG. Using that information I planned and executed an amazing trip around the world in 2006. One little detail from that trip will show you how everyone's ISG posts help everyone else who reads ISG:
I was in a little outrigger ferry going from the island of Mindora in the Philippines, back to Manila via Batangas. The ferry picked up a lot of people in the little diving town of Sabang, because the power was out due to a typhoon and the tourism was way down. I knew from the ISG that Sabang had working girls in discos and how much they cost and how they compared with girls in Manila, etc.
The ferry was packed and a cute girl moved her bag off the seat and invited me to sit next to her. During the 90 minute crossing we talked and I heard about her poor life and how she went to Sabang from Quezon City in Manila to work in a restaurant, but because of the typhoon there was no business, so she was going back to Manila. Somehow, from all the info that I had absorbed on ISG, I knew that she was a working girl from one of the discos. Perhaps it was her sunglasses and her cellphone.
I enjoyed talking to her about life in the Philippines. I was not at all surprised that she managed to get my local cellphone number out of me just as we were docking (when I didn't ask for hers). We separated for different busses in the ferry terminal and I took a nap.
When she got home, she sent me a text message later in the day. She had tried to text me immediately after we split apart, but my phone was turned off. She offered to come down to the part of town I was in to be with me and show me around! Due to ISG, I knew what was being offered and what would be an appropriate tip aftewards.
Unfortunately for her, I had just texted another girl who I had bar fined in Makati the week before and was in the process of arranging for her to stay with me for my last 2 days. But I nicely put off the ferry girl, telling her I had a cold and I needed to rest and wouldn't be able to meet up with her.
I never had a moment's hesitation about what was going on, about what would likely happen, and about how to handle the situation. Even though I was in a new country, halfway around the world from home, in a culture that was totally new to me.
All because of reading dozens on reports on ISG before (and during) my trip. Thanks, and happy new year to everyone.
Hope to be in Carolina this Thursday about noon or 1pm but won't be able to stay long.
-zing
p.s. I have been reviewing my memories from this time last year and it seems to me that the clubs are busier than they were last year. I wonder if all the ISG reports in the last year are bringing in more customers for the clubs?
SXMperson, you can't receive PM. If you are in SXM on Thursday, come and join us at Carolina. I'll be there from the early afternoon till closing.
[QUOTE=Routard]SXMperson, you can't receive PM. If you are in SXM on Thursday, come and join us at Carolina. I'll be there from the early afternoon till closing.[/QUOTE]Hey there! Sounds good. I can't make it until after 3pm, so I may miss Zing, but hope to catch you there. I'll be the younger ******* that walks in and immediately goes and gets a Carib to drink while looking at all the gorgeous chicas!
Great, that makes 5 ISG members tomorrow at Carolina! If someone wants to join the party, we might be in the VIP room. I'll bring cigars from my previous Cuban trip as well as a bottle of FKK World Champagne from my last FKK tour!
I arrived at 1 pm on Monday January 1st.
At 2;30 I was at Defiance hoping that Claudia would still be there. By my calculations she had already been in St Martin over 3 month. As my luck would have it she seems to have a 12 month visa. I hurriedly went to her room and knocked on door 220. she was occupado but said 10 minutes. After a few minutes she showed up in the bar wearing a wrap and nothing else. She is from Bogotá and has a great smile and fantastic c-d natural breasts with nice chewable nipples. We had a drink and went to her room. Having had a number of sessions with her in the past we started out where we left off.
DFK, daty many positions then with my fingers in her pussy and having her masturbate. After she came she was quivering and her pussy was off limits for about 10 minutes. Then a Fantastic BBBJ and the twins included with a nice massage cream and not that friction producing baby oil crap... anal was also on the menu today.
Anal is ok but she has a most educated pussy and fucking her mish was absolutely fantastic. We spent over an hour she is not the most beautiful woman but in bed her performance is a solid 91/2-10.
We went to the snack bar across the way from defiance and had a late lunch.
I said I would return either this evening or tomorrow.
Being in sex prison for the last 6 weeks I immediately went over to seaman’s.
There is some nice new talent. I sat at the bar to get a water and Kavita room 19 sat on my lap. She is a tiny dark skinned spinner from Surinam. She has a lot of Chinese tattoos on her right arm. Brisa came over (a starfish) and said hi.
She immediately asked if I wanted to go to her room. When I asked her what the tattoo said she said that it says she gives a great BJ. She was very pushy and I let the little brain do the thinking. Off we went to the room. I asked her about a bbbj she said yes. I always make the mistake of taking on very young spinners-she was a very big disappointment.
I felt like I was in an operating room with all the cleaning and preparation. She basically breathed on my dick and on went the condom. I spent an hour with her trying to get her engine started but she even complained when I did daty that I had a little stubble from the morning on my face. Definitely a non repeat.
Still having a high sperm count I went over to casa Blanca. I have not had any luck over there but I figured what the hell. I was immediately jumped by many unattractive girls and had to fend them off with esperando para un otra chica. They all asked who I wanted but I really didn’t have anyone in mind. After a while Marisol room #1 spotted me and even though I had a fair experience with her in the past I went with her as she seemed to have learned how to move her ass when in the bar. I had an uninspired session with her and she seems to have gained weight in her thighs, I being heavy makes for a bad combination.
I finally settled for a hand job with baby oil and started to irritate little Mel. so I said I was tired and ended the ½ hour session.
Now being frustrated and hornier than when I arrived I stopped back at Defiance.
I walked in and Claudia looked absolutely stunning. She has a great broad smile and on the taller side.
She was wearing a black Lycra dress with a bustier that made her figure look absolutely
Amazing. We had a water at the bar and spent an extremely fantastic hour plus session.
She came twice to my one. I don’t think we missed anything except anal which I passed on.
I was then in a quandary, it was still early and I didn’t want to miss anything. However I was concerned that if I went to my favorite place Carolinas the word would get back to Melissa in Columbia and mess up my relationship with her. FUCK IT!
I went to Carolinas and sat around bs-ing with the guy at the back desk, . he pointed out a girl that gave a great massage and my neck and back. I needed it so off I went with EMILI room 12. One thing let to another and besides having a very good massage I put junior to work, it was interesting that she likes daty with her legs together it was different and she definitely liked it. Nice hour session.
Then the owner of Carolina came by and we talked about going out mongering but I said we would do it tomorrow as junior was dead.
We talked in the restaurant with a few girls including zings Kenney. The owner said she could bring the dead back to life. We talked for a few hours and then I went with Kenney.
She shared the same room with Melissa #14 .She promised to keep it to herself.
As Zing mentioned she started out almost immediately while I was standing with a condom. I asked for no condom. I laid her in the bed and started fingering he. She asked me for daty and then she had me put two fingers on her g-spot. She also masturbated and came like a wild woman. After a while we did a few positions and then a very fine hand job to completion.
Kenney is not the prettiest girl there but has a great rack with huge nipples and definitely has potential. I strongly believe that a mature 8 will always be better than a young 10.
The owner of Carolinas Agrees with me.
It is now 3:45 am and I am putting a splint on my dick for tomorrows session.
Mel
[QUOTE=Routard]Great, that makes 5 ISG members tomorrow at Carolina! If someone wants to join the party, we might be in the VIP room. I'll bring cigars from my previous Cuban trip as well as a bottle of FKK World Champagne from my last FKK tour![/QUOTE]Hey, how do you get in the VIP room?
Gentlemen,
I wanted to know if anybody knows of any Stripclub called BADA BING, what is it like? Does it have hot chicks? I heard it is in simpson bay, not sure. Anybody with the 411 let me know.
Thanx,
GG
January 2 ,
Round2. Needless to say I slept late and did a few chores around the boat.
Then off to mongering.
1 st stop Carolinas to check out the talent and meet a new amigo.
We then went over to Defiance to meet the owner and hang out.
Claudia room 220 was looking fabulous so off I went.
We spent over an hour . Nice bbbj of junior and massage of the twins.
Great GFE dfk daty cowgirl, reverse cowgirl and mish.
Well worth 100-.
Then the owner of defiance showed me his other 2 places.
We first went to petite chateau. In my opinion it is a dump. However he knows the heat is on from Carolinas. He added a new section for the girls to have a private room and sleep in. there are other rooms for them to work in. this is a first for St Martin. There were a number of columbianas in there and a few very attractive ones. He is adding a VIP lounge and making daily improvements. I will definitely check it out in the next few days.
He is also the owner of the real estate of Seaman’s however he doesn’t run the club.
I was then invited to THE BBQ. A friend of the owner of Defiance has a weekly BBQ. If invited you go to his house, pool Jacuzzi etc. there is the best talent of the 3 clubs there 6- 12 knockouts depending on the number of men no more than 6 men. You BBQ and party you are then able to pay the girl(s)
And take them home for the night without a multa. I can’t wait till next weeks BBQ.
Zing- kind of like your idea.
I went to Carolinas but I don’t remember who I did.
Having left Carolinas I went to seaman’s.
There was a stunning looking girl Roxanna room 9. Tall slim waist c-d firm natural breasts pretty face. When I asked her about a BBBJ she said no so I passed. I really wanted her.
I then saw Loron room 14 petite Columbiana and a most beautiful face with a chiseled nose and beautiful eyes. For a small girl I would say she has a solid c natural chest.
A real spinner, I usually don’t care for spinners as I am big and their hips are too small.
She suggested I take her room mate along. Alexandra is ok looking large chest with big breasts and large nipples. After the last 36 hours I figured I could use all the help I could get. So off we went. Alexandra gave a better bbbj than Loron. Alexandra sucked while Loron worked on the twins and sucked my nipples. Then the moment of truth. Alexandra started with cowboy but her thighs are a little heavy and I hate the slapping motion on my thighs so I switched to Loron –WOW what a wonderful educated wet pussy.
Hasta luego leche.
They asked for $100- we spent about an hour which was more than fair.
I told Loron I would be back in the afternoon and have her as my first of the day.
Stopped at the bbq truck on the way back home by the police station it I open until 2am. Great pork chop sandwich for $5.50.
More to follow,
Mel
January 3,
A late start today chores etc. I went to seamen and it was empty at 5:30 pm. I knocked on Lorons door as I wanted to give her my first Leche of the day. She was not in.
So off to Defiance I went. I had to wait at Claudia’s door as she was in the shower. She was beautiful. She let me in and continued in the shower, she is by no means the youngest chica there in fact I would say she is a woman a real woman with nice hips and a great shape in my mind. I am enamored with her. We must have kissed for 20 minutes. I brought some very fine massage cream along with cocoa butter and gave Claudia a nice long massage. We had sex in every possible position and
Spent 2 hours in each others arms. We had to turn on the fan as we were both sweating like teenagers. Looking down on her in mish with her tongue on my nipples, her legs over her head, and her beautiful breasts with nipples like 2 large pencil erasers stacked one on top of the other , watching her bite her lip with her eyes looking into my eyes was ecstasy.
We showered together, I lent her my phone to call her mother bought her dinner and left.
Why did I continue? I am a hound dog !!!
Off I went to Carolinas. I sat around and bulshitted with a few guys and then I saw Kenney rm 12 again. What the hell!! Nice session – nothing awe inspiring after Claudia.
Pussy is like apple pie. There is no such thing as bad apple pie.
I then asked the guy at the desk where was tall Vanessa.
He pointed her out. I would say she is 5 feet 11 in flat shoes with an amazing chest.
Tall slim and pretty with a great chest. Even if I didn’t have any leche I still wanted to feel her pussy. She started off like a pro and I took her off her pace with a nice massage of her neck, but the ooos and ahhhs were fake, I couldn’t break through the barrier, but I would do her again. Asian looking eyes room 2.
I sat and bulklshited with the guy at the desk and asked the names of the girls as they went to the rooms that I liked for our next session and the ISG get together tomorrow.
I left and almost turned right from arch road but I figured I would just drop by and see if seaman’s had invented some new kind of pussy.
I immediately saw Loron but she was occupied. I asked here where she was today. She was at the beauty parlor. I said I would see her tomorrow. A girl from the DR sat next to me a very nice spinner but she was smoking. I hate women with cigarette breath.
I passed on her. She introduced me to Lisa Room 12. The smallest spinner I have seen-
A must do another day great rack on her maybe 5 feet tall at most.
Also Pilar room 16 looked great as a must do.
I then saw this fabulous tall girl walk by and she walked outside.
I followed her out and noticed she had a dolphin tattooed on one of her breasts.
She looked familiar. It was Roxanna room 9 from the other night. I asked about a bbbj and this time she said yes. I always say no niche in su boca when I ask. But I am sure they have heard that before. Sometimes they say leche en mi boca es bueno
On the way to the room she asked me why I didn’t remember her. We were walking down the hall to the end rooms and I remembered I had a mediocre session with someone in the end room on the left. Fortunately hers was the last room on the right.
She remembered me from a year ago. No dfk but she was great. She brought the dead back to life. We tried a number of positions but again no GFE just business I tried a massage and working on her pussy but she wasn’t in the mood. Looking down on a beautiful face in mish, her tongue on my nipple legs over her head, fantastic, but no leche.
Then while in that position she started to really do the reggatone under me (this is no easy feat as I am a big guy) and reached around and grabbed my cock—BLAM.
I guess she picked up a new trick since last year.
Off to bed now 9 hours till the first isg get together tomorrow.
Mel
Mel,
That is quite an impressive activity I have to say! ;-)
I went with tall Vanessa with Asian eyes at Carolina's too and can verify your description. In short: Very goodlooking, but a little hard to break through the barriers. YMMV.
BTW, I believe there are three Vanessa's in Carolina's at the moment. I can highly recommend Vanessa "the Chocolate": Thin, medium height, natural B/C chest, light brown chocolate skin, with probably the prettiest face in Carolina right now (face like a top model). Very fun and sweet girl. English nearly non-existant. Scar on tommy after child birth. Do not know extent of services.
The third Vanessa I never met and cannot describe.
I sooo envy you guys at today's ISG meeting! Wish I could have been there.
Happy hunting!
It is not so easy for 5 horny guys to meet up in Carolinas. While you are waiting for the others to show up, it is very tempting to go to a room, and that can stretch out to an hour.
I only had a short time in sxm today. I showed up at Carolinas about 1240pm and Mel was already there, already had done his first session. He told me some of the stories in his previous posts, plus a couple that aren't for public consumption!
Then I ran into Kenney, who has given me a great time the last 2 visits. Since I only have time for 1 girl, if I am also going to talk to ISGers, and it is still early for the meeting, I go off to the room with Kenney. Great session for me, refer to last report. The same, but in another girl's room, this time to Vallenato music that I provided and she selected (out of 5 cds). Vallenato is like colombian country music, with a beat. Not as long as the last session, because she could sense that I wanted to get back to the bar and my amigos.
In the bar, first person I spot is Routard, who introduces me to Pogostick. I introduced Kenney, but then she slid off to sit on the side and let us talk. We actually talked for a good 20 minutes, then first Routard picks a slim, beautiful girl with a teenage figure (big surprise!), and Pogostick calls over the tall Vanessa with the Asian eyes (but without the benefit of the reports here). Mel has disappeared, presumably into a room with a chica. And SXMperson has not made himself known (how will he know us, as he doesn't have PM?)
It was great to see everyone and compare notes. I had to leave before 3pm, but the other guys looked like they were getting ready for a long night of mongering! I wish I was with you guys....
-zing
Bada Bings is a strip club just off of the airport next to Mary's boon hotel. Its a nice club, appropriately low lit with comfortable leather couches.
The girls from my experience were all Romanian. Majority of them were absolutely beautiful ranging around 8-9 with an occassional 10. The club may or may not ask you for an entrance fee depending on whether you have been there before. The fee is made up with a drink coupon.
Drinks are pricy but not more so than GoldenEyes or the Platinum Club. Being a new club the girls didn't seem to really have it together on exactly what they were supposed to be doing and often congregated at the bar talking amongst one another.
Like the other clubs you can goto the backroom for private dances which are $30 each. Time starts the moment you enter the room so don't sit and chat for 10 songs! Each blink of the lights indicates the song is about to end. For those of you with a female - dances are then $50. The dances are primarily nude but don't expect to get anywhere... ymmv. On the other hand if a girl is with you... she can get away with just about anything she wants :)
Some girls will go out of the club with you for a fee like the other places... or you can meet them the next day. Cost varies but $300 in the club may land you a fling the next day... or you may be told to meet her tomorrow and be left high and dry. Some girls do not sleep with the clientele. Best to be specific and flexible in your plans with alternative / backup plans if this is your route.
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Side note of caution after reading a lot of posts.
Baby Oil
Vaseline
Silicone based oils
Petroleum based oils
should NEVER EVER be used with latex condoms. they degrade the latex like Sigourney Weaver's Alien splashing acid through metal flooring.
It increases both risk of rupture and creates micro-holes large enough for the HIV virus to pass through.
Don't panic if you have the odds of female to male transmission are very low of HIV, but be safe and don't use these products down there and then use latex condoms.
I didn't make it to Carolina's today :( I had two problems. First, all the ATMs in Maho were down due to "communication" problems. Also, I thought I would be out there by 3, but I was held up until 6. Tues and Thurs are bad for me. I am going to subscribe and get PM now so we can talk behind the scenes and figure something out.
Just a quick report tonight. I didn't get started until about 1:30am. I went by Seamans first. No good looking girls. I just wanted to get a BJ there to start the night. One chica quoted me $50. I don't know what she was thinking. I asked her to leave me alone, and another came up and I got a fair price. We went back in the room and she gave me a BJ for a few minutes, switched to a pure handjob. Given this bullshit and the lack of good-looking girls at Seamans, I think I will stop going there.
After that, I went to Carolinas and checked out the talent. A handful of really nice looking girls. I was waiting for Natalia but she was busy so I ended up going back with another girl. A quick BBBJ then CFS. I took a really long time, but she didn't mind. Seemed to enjoy it. I'm not sure if she was faking (at least it wasn't overly dramatic.) I can't remember her name, sorry.
:-)
Mel, Zing, Pogo, Sxm,
Sorry I missed you guys last week. Spent just two days and got real busy. Was able to secure some amateur action downtown though. Nice Guyanese girl who did not refuse an offer of a KFC lunch and a blowjob on the beach later that evening. I would have prefered sharing Carolina of Carolinas with you but hey things weren't all that dry for me otherwise.
Alan
on the way back from the ISG meeting, it occurred to me that our chicas don't seem to ever have their period?
in all the time I have been visiting the clubs since sep 05, only 1 girl (nancy, a dominicana from casa blanca) was ever on her period! and I have seen some of these girls once or twice a week for up to 12 weeks (32 weeks in one case).
i wonder if they are taking drugs to suppress their menstruation?
-zing
[QUOTE=Zing23]on the way back from the ISG meeting, it occurred to me that our chicas don't seem to ever have their period?
in all the time I have been visiting the clubs since sep 05, only 1 girl (nancy, a dominicana from casa blanca) was ever on her period! and I have seen some of these girls once or twice a week for up to 12 weeks (32 weeks in one case).
i wonder if they are taking drugs to suppress their menstruation?
-zing[/QUOTE]The girls use birth control pills to supress menstration. Some Thai girls use a sponge device to stop the flow.
tomorrow monday jamuary 8 there will be 9 new girls at Carolinas.
just a short report for your general info.
happy mongering
mel
14 days to go !!!
January IIII
Thursday was some what of disappointment. I arrived at seaman’s and hung around for a while waiting for the morning ISG get together, we were originally supposed to get together at 6pm but the first get together was rescheduled for 12-1 pm.
Supposedly zing, routard, pogo and I were supposed to get together.
I had arranged a private free show upstairs in Carolinas at 6pm with an open bar and 8 of the top Carolina girls but things got off kilter. I met zing about 12:30 and he started speaking to Kenney room 14. He was his usual animated self and I guess he was horny as we didn’t have much time to talk off he went. He mentioned that Routard would be in by 2pm so I waited. I noticed Laura room 15 she is short with well proportioned chest.
Red and blond hair. I was getting hornier and hornier and waited with Laura. At 2pm I said 5 more minutes but at 2:03 junior spoke up and off we went. Professional treatment and had a very sour look on her face both in the room and in the bar. I rate her 7/7.
I then saw valentine VIP room nice chest blond and freckles, I believe I did her before. I think I will try again tomorrow as she looks cute wicked great smile.
After I went out I saw Carolina who was very well recommended apartment 17.
She is extraordinarily tight and had a great GFE hour long session she came two to my one.
Later I was over at seaman’s looking around and Loron came over as well as the Kavita from Surinam and I told them I had no more leche to get them away from me. Loron got pissed and walked away in a huff. She would not speak to me.
Another girl came over Patricia room 11. She is not spectacular looking in the face but a very fine body she was very simpatico and I thought we would get along. So off I went. She started like a pro and immediately laid her down and started massaging her neck then daty, she came to the point that her clit was untouchable. That is my indicator that it was for as real she almost also broke my neck when she came so hard. We hugged for a while she then started with dfk, bbbj, and absolutely fantastic reverse cowgirl a wonderful ride. After an hour and 25 minutes we showered and went to the bar. Instead of leaving as I usually do she asked me to sit with her, we sat for about 20 minutes then she asked if I would go back to the room she would like to give a massage for free—what the hell,
After she started massaging me she literally asked me to in English “please fuck me in the ass” being the gentleman that I am I accommodated her and we spent another hour.
After the hour she would not accept any money.
When I was in the bar with her for the second time my cell rang, it was routard.
It getting late more to follow.
January IIII
Thursday was some what of disappointment. I arrived at seaman’s and hung around for a while waiting for the morning ISG get together, we were originally supposed to get together at 6pm but the first get together was rescheduled for 12-1 pm.
Supposedly zing, routard, pogo and I were supposed to get together.
I had arranged a private free show upstairs in Carolinas at 6pm with an open bar and 8 of the top Carolina girls but things got off kilter. I met zing about 12:30 and he started speaking to Kenney room 14. He was his usual animated self and I guess he was horny as we didn’t have much time to talk off he went. He mentioned that Routard would be in by 2pm so I waited. I noticed Laura room 15 she is short with well proportioned chest.
Red and blond hair. I was getting hornier and hornier and waited with Laura. At 2pm I said 5 more minutes but at 2:03 junior spoke up and off we went. Professional treatment and had a very sour look on her face both in the room and in the bar. I rate her 7/7.
I then saw valentine VIP room nice chest blond and freckles, I believe I did her before. I think I will try again tomorrow as she looks cute wicked great smile.
After I went out I saw Carolina who was very well recommended apartment 17.
She is extraordinarily tight and had a great GFE hour long session she came two to my one.
Later I was over at seaman’s looking around and Loron came over as well as the Kavita from Surinam and I told them I had no more leche to get them away from me. Loron got pissed and walked away in a huff. She would not speak to me.
Another girl came over Patricia room 11. She is not spectacular looking in the face but a very fine body she was very simpatico and I thought we would get along. So off I went. She started like a pro and immediately laid her down and started massaging her neck then daty, she came to the point that her clit was untouchable. That is my indicator that it was for as real she almost also broke my neck when she came so hard. We hugged for a while she then started with dfk, bbbj, and absolutely fantastic reverse cowgirl a wonderful ride. After an hour and 25 minutes we showered and went to the bar. Instead of leaving as I usually do she asked me to sit with her, we sat for about 20 minutes then she asked if I would go back to the room she would like to give a massage for free—what the hell,
After she started massaging me she literally asked me to in English “please fuck me in the ass” being the gentleman that I am I accommodated her and we spent another hour.
After the hour she would not accept any money.
When I was in the bar with her for the second time my cell rang, it was routard.
It getting late more to follow.
Well last night was surely interesting. I had a bit of cash and time to spend so I went out mongering late last night. My first stop was Carolinas. I went in and grabbed a beer and sat down to see who was there. Some really nice looking girls there this time of year. I see Natalia and she is talking to a customer and she sees me and waved. I waved back and motioned for her to come over. After a couple of minutes she came by, and we talked for a few minutes then I asked if she wanted to go in the back.
So, off to her room we go. I wanted to make last night be the first night I try to employ the techniques you guys have shared with me. So we are doing a little hugging and dancing then she starts to disrobe. We got on the bed, but instead of her just "servicing" me, I asked her to lay down and I gave her a long full back and leg massage. I remembered to get her calves and theighs as she stands up all day long. She seemed to really appreciate it. After that, we went into CFS for a good half hour then I came. She seemed to really enjoy it and afterwards she asked me to lay down with her for a while. We talked about her home and some other things. Really a nice girl. I talked to her about the possibility of a TLN, but it was already late (1: 00am or so) and I decided to just go home.
So I then was going to go home, but decided to just pop in to Seamans and see what was going on. I was apprehensive about it as my last experience there sucked pretty bad. I went in and got a beer and surveyed the girls. A lot of girls I didn't recognize at all. I see one who was a tiny girl. I went over to talk to her and she was a cute small girl. Her name was Lena (I think.) 20yo from Calle (sp? ) Colombia. We went back to her room, and I gave her just a short massage. She was very friendly and flirty. She laughed a lot and was just a really cute girl. The CFS was good and it took me a while to come.
Afterwards we laid down for a while and talked. Her english wasn't too good so I couldn't say too many things (and my spanish is just ok). She didn't seem to eager to get back out into the bar. We stayed in her room just goofing off for another 15 minutes or so until she hopped in the shower and I left.
I was then driving home, and said "Ah fuck it" and went back to Carolinas and asked Natalia if she wanted a TLN. She said sure and she packed her bags and came. She was amazing. Really enjoyable. She was funny, liked to laugh, and she wasn't shy. She loved picking songs on my iPod and hearing her music. At my place she was just really geat. A super great GFE. It really just felt like a real date instead of what it really was. Once at my place we had a lot of DFK (which I had never done with her before.) We moved to the bed for the action. I gave her a warm-up massage and then kissed her all over, and even did a bit of DATY. She seemed to be surprised and really enjoyed it. The CFS was excellent and I'm about 99% sure she came before I did. She seemed to really enjoy it. It wasn't the typical "oh baby oh baby" it seemed genuine.
Anyway, we only had one session then went to sleep in each others arms. She held on to me most of the night. I had places to be this morning so I had to bring her home as soon as we woke up. Really cool girl, great GFE, great experience in general.
I really enjoy the TLN because you get the girl out of the club and see how they are and can hang out with them and all that. But, it's really expensive and if you just want the sex it makes much more sense ecnomically to just do it at the club. Look at it like this. I did her in her room at the beginning of the night for $40, then went to Seamans, then came back to her and paid the $45 bar fee and then paid Natalia for the TLN. So I spent more on the bar fee to get her to leave than it would have cost me for the same amount of sex. But, it was enjoyable and I'm not unhappy I did it. It was a good experience:.)
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[QUOTE=Sxmperson101] I wanted to make last night be the first night I try to employ the techniques you guys have shared with me . . . We got on the bed, but instead of her just "servicing" me, I asked her to lay down and I gave her a long full back and leg massage. I remembered to get her calves and thighs as she stands up all day long. She seemed to really appreciate it. After that, we went into CFS for a good half hour then I came. She seemed to really enjoy it and afterwards she asked me to lay down with her for a while. We talked about her home and some other things. . . . Really cool girl, great GFE, great experience in general.[/QUOTE]
Nice report. Congratulations on taking control of the encounter. And it worked for you - with both girls. There is no guarantee that giving a BFE will always get you a GFE experience - some working girls are just emotionally shut down (which is understandable, considering their work). but you don't need to repeat with the girls that don't respond (which is totally reasonable, considering that you are paying).
-zing
Hello again.
I went out to Carolina's tonight to bring Natalia some CD's I made for her of the music she listened to on my iPod. I didn't see her when I went in, and a girl I had never seen before came up and started trying to get me to go with her. I said "What the heck" and went back with her. Her name was Katiana, 24, from Bogota, Colombia.
She seemed a bit odd from the get-go. She had a different approach than the other girls. I wasn't sure what to make of her. She wanted a bit of fore-play, so I had a few fingers inside of her and kissing on her, and she seemed to enjoy it reasonably well. She kept telling me I was so beautiful and that she loved the "view" and kept looking at me really oddly. So we proceeded on with sex and I went for a good while and finally came. I was pretty tired as it was late, and I had only went out to give Natalia the CD's.
After I came, Katiana wanted me to lay down with her for a while. She kept repeating how I was so beautiful, etc. I'm not sure what to make of that. I suppose I'm reasonably cynical now and don't believe most things the girls tell me. Perhaps she really enjoyed how I looked, or perhaps not. So I laid down with her and she kept wanted me to rub her pussy and finger her. She kept asking me to give her a hug "dame un abrazo! " So I obliged. It felt a bit odd:) This went on for a good 20 minutes, and she kept wanting to lay and snuggle.
I talked to her about work, and she expressed how she really hated it, but needed the money for things back in Colombia. I tried expressing to her just how odd it is for me to understand. I'm from the US and I just can't imagine being so poor that you have to leave your country and go work like that just to make a bit of money. She kept reassuring herself that it was "only three months. " I never said anything negative. I was just supportive of what she said and was nice.
During this time, she was playing with my dick and eventually it became hard again. She then put a condom on it and wanted me to fuck her again. She didn't ask me or anything. She just kinda expected it to happen. So o course I did. It took me quite a while this time but I finally came (I almost gave up! ) After that I started expressing to her that I was tired and was ready to go back home to go to sleep. So she got up and went to take a quick shower.
I was unsure what to pay her. I honestly didn't want to spend much money tonight as I had blown such a huge amount the other night with the TLN, but at the same time I'm a decent person and don't want to screw her over. I really felt like I should only pay $40, as I only wanted one session of sex, and she completely initiated the second session and never asked me if I wanted it or anything of the sort. But, I had weird confrontations like that, so I went ahead and left her $80 for the two sessions and said my goodbyes and left.
What do you guys think about that? What should I do in the future if the girl intitiates a second session without me asking for it?
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[QUOTE=Sxmperson101]
What do you guys think about that? What should I do in the future if the girl intitiates a second session without me asking for it?
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You did the right thing. I love your two latest reports. Keep on!
Routard
I was looking forward our ISG meeting, had prepared Cuban cigars, a bottle of FKK World Champagne, Mel had arranged for the VIP room and Zing had promised me to bring plenty of "Routard style" girls. But nights in Saint Maarten are always a surprise, nothing went like it was planned.
I arrived at 2pm in Carolina and bumped into Pogo. We hadn’t finished to introduce ourselves, a hilarious Zing entered the bar, still dreaming about his session as he came right from the rooms and didn’t even notice us. I called him and introduced him to Pogo. He told us that Mel just went for a session, so we discussed together at the bar waiting for him to come out of the room. I checked around the line-up that was pretty good. Carolina seems to make it great, as there were plenty of customers too even in the early afternoon.
But among those 20 sexy chicas, I noticed only one. She looked at me too. I knew from the beginning that she would be the girl, not only because she has the typical “Routard style” defined by Zing: slim beautiful teenage look. No, it seems that with my mongering experience, I have developed a very accurate pussy radar, allowing me to detect the one with mutual chemistry. I have find no other explanation of my increase of GFE statistics. I don’t believe I could get GFE from most of them, I simply manage to chose the right one, the one that will fit with me. I’m pretty sure about this new GFE theory. Simply follow my story.
We didn’t discuss very long, Pogo was soon in female company, followed by Zing. The chicas around us were getting nervous, as booking went fast. I simply looked again at her, and she naturally came to me. The key of GFE was definitely not in the mutual approach. She did her tactless hooker’s routine approach, and I invited her for a drink. We kissed a bit, but with lips closed. The small talks were minimal, and when we agreed to go to the room, she even tried to oversell me with a double price one hour session, which I declined, as it was my first session. She is probably a clock watcher, and I would not recommend her to others. Still, I was convinced I was not making a mistake, don’t ask me why.
Once in her room, she became more natural. I noticed her hygiene, as she started first to brush her teeth. I took a shower and asked her if I could use her Listerine which was no problem of course. We discussed together while we both were busy. It looked as if we were in a long term relation dealing with our day to day occupation, but still not the GFE key.
We looked in ours eyes, I took gently her head, and we started to kiss. I then felt the interaction growing. We kissed more and more passionate, undressing us slowly, without stopping kissing. She even preferred to keep her top, as it would have interrupted kissing. We did everything without stopping kissing, oral sex was out of question. There was a strong physical mutual chemistry based on the looks in our eyes, the taste of our kissing, the smell and the feeling of our skins. From what I could analyse, the four other senses did it against what is working most with females, oral communication. I had found her key to get GFE. But it will not help much for getting GFE another time with another girl. If oral communication can be improved, I can hardly work on the other senses. I can only try to detect the girl that will allow such natural chemistry with me. However, I guess that personal attitude, showing respect and empathy, being sincere and focusing on the girl are still key factors in getting GFE.
Enough analysing, back to the sex. As I mentioned previously, there was no oral sex, we went straight to intercourse as soon as my bare dick had stimulated enough her pussy to feel it wet enough. We did multiple positions, but only those allowing us to continue kissing. I felt how much she enjoyed, she was clearly not faking. Unfortunately, I knew I would not be able to bring her to an orgasm, as I was unable to hold it very long, having had no sex for a while. I had a strong orgasm, and she felt frustrated, refusing me to exit and trying to go on. I did it for a while but having already orgasmed, lost my erection. As a result, when I exited, the condom stayed inside her pussy. She had to catch it deeply with her finger, but she didn’t seemed to be annoyed by it. She went quickly to take a shower, and I accompanied her. After the shower, we went back to bed, discussing naked. She asked me embarrassed if I had noticed how much she enjoyed it too. She felt she shouldn’t have lost control over her body. I gave her a massage and she definitely didn’t seem to look anymore to the clock. She just wanted to spend some time with me. She tried even to go for a second round, but I made her clear I needed a rest before. I felt also guilty as the ISG members were waiting at the bar. We stayed at least for an hour, but when I paid, she definitely didn’t ask for overtime as she tried to oversell me at the beginning.
When we were both back in the bar, the other ISG members were all gone. She didn’t want to leave me, we stayed together discussing at the bar. It was nearly 4pm, time when the chicas have some free time. She hadn’t slept very much lately, was tired and told me she would need a nap. I told her I would try to find the other ISG members. We agreed to see us back in the club after the break, around 8pm. I left and went to check at Seamens for other ISG members, but I found no one, so returned to Carolina. I was trying to phone on the parking lot of Carolina when I saw her coming back from the nearby store together with her roommate.
I did something I have never done before, I invited her for dinner during her free time. There was no bar multa, I was not a customer, she was not a puta, it was just a friendly offer for dinner, I’m sure she felt the same. She agreed with a smile, and simply asked if her amiga could come too. Sure no problem, so here we went in my renting car. Her amiga was a pretty young girl, but had some hooker’s attitude towards me, and treated me as a mongerer. But then she noticed something was happening between us, became more confident towards me too and changed her attitude. I entered the restaurant, proud to be in such good female company. We had a nice conversation and learned to know each other. They were very both very natural, even her amiga. I think they both strongly need to get out of the brothel and not to be considered as hookers. If the physical chemistry had occurred before, the mental chemistry started here in the restaurant. We didn’t stay too long, as I knew both needed a nap. But both were very grateful for having invited them for dinner and spent some time together as friends.
We agreed to meet us at 8pm at Carolina. I went back again to Seamens as well as Defiance. At Defiance I managed to have Mel on the phone and we agreed to meet us at Carolina. Back at Carolina, there was nobody, so I had a look too at Crystal. When I exited, I met Mel at the parking lot. We introduced ourselves, entered Carolina, but there was nobody during the 4pm-8pm break, so we decided to go for Seamens. Other ISG members were lost.
At Seamens, there was a good atmosphere and I was surprised by the line-up. The management seems to have reacted against the strong competition from Carolina. They clearly seem to have started too a strong selection on girls and line-up quality is now nearly as good as Carolina’s. Still, no other girl fancied me, as I was already well committed elsewhere. We had a drink at the bar, together with a few chicas. I was surprised when I bumped into a Guyanese girl I had met this summer in Trinidad. She is the only native English speaking girl at Seamens. I told her I was surprised to find her in Saint Maarten and asked if she remembered me. She replied: “Yes of course, you recommended me to come to Saint Maarten, remember?”. Can you believe that? I’m proud having helped plenty of mongerers with my information, but now even the service providers follow my recommendations!
Mel told me that Lorena might be still there. It surprised me, as she was supposed to be already back in Colombia. But it gave me a good excuse each time to say no. I answered I was waiting for another girl, and when I was asked who it might be, I answered Lorena. After an hour we went back to Carolina. I had spend already 6 hours in SXM with only one session.
The bar at Carolina was empty, so we went for the sofa in the private area, looking at all the chicas coming for signing up the register. Mine arrived lovely dressed in red and joined me in the sofa. She didn’t know Mel and discovered he had a copy of the chicas’ list from the manager. She seemed annoyed as her real name appeared on the list. Mel scrapped her real name on the list and apologized for the inconvenience. She asked me what I was planning to do tonight. I answered I would have liked to go TLN with her, but I had no room, as all hotels were booked during the two holyday weeks of new year. I asked if I might rent a room at Carolina. She was not sure about it, and offered me instead of staying in her room, her roommate would manage to go elsewhere. Mel offered us to go on his boat instead. In the meantime, he was cancelling the VIP room at Carolina and was offered to go to a club belonging to one of his friends. It was somewhat confused, but I simply confirmed her that what mattered is that we stayed together. She said that she wanted to dress herself for a more appropriate outdoor look and asked me to come with her to her room.
In the room, I enjoyed watching her changing her clothes. I guess she enjoyed too being admired by a man. We were preparing us for our first date. She looked great in her blue jean and sexy white top. She seemed excited about leaving her routine environment, and started to kiss. The phone rang, Mel was waiting for us outside. He wanted to pick up a date at Seamens. It was a strange feeling entering Seamens accompanied with a lady. We sat down at a table, took a drink while Mel was arranging a date. He made a good choice, she came at our table introducing herself to us. When she was ready, we left Seamens for the Casino, each of us with his own date. In the car, she called her parents in Colombia. She was so proud when she heard her two years old sister's son speaking on the phone. At one moment, she gave me the phone and said:"Habla". I was frozen, I believed I had one of her family's member on the phone. In fact, it was Mel on a double call.
At the Casino, we went upstairs in the nightclub. There was nobody yet, but the club owner offered us a drink. I was surprised to see her taking an alcoholic drink, as she had told me she never drank alcohol. She replied that she felt happy and confident with me, and that she allowed herself losing control. There was some Merengue and Bachata music going on. We started to dance in the empty nightclub, and she had fun. She whispered in my ears that she would like to be alone with me. Yes, I couldn’t wait to be alone with her too. She asked me to come with her to the bathroom. It was probably the first time in my life that I was in a lady’s toilet together with a girl. We started to kiss passionately, but I didn’t want to fuck her in such place, I was ready to wait for a more appropriate one. The mirror showed us a the image of a romantic couple, and I was surprised how much we seemed to fit together. The phone rang again, Mel was waiting for us outside the Casino. We decided to go to his boat.
At the Marina, Mel asked us to wait at the bar of the restaurant, as he wanted to arrange somewhat the boat before. The girls were hungry, unfortunately they didn’t serve dinner anymore. We discussed together with Mel’s date, and when he came back, we left for a nearby 24 hour’s restaurant. The place was packed with tourists, as it was high season. Two young guys were watching us entering accompanied with our two “bomba latinas”, and they were green of envy, tongue reaching the floor. Mel had noticed it too and we had a good laugh about it.
During all the meal, we were discussing, staring into each other’s eyes and kissing. As soon as I tried to discuss a bit with Mel, she took my attention back. She also didn’t want to discuss with Mel’s date, fearing I might stop focusing on her. I was not so happy about her jealousy on itself, as I had plenty of things in common with Mel that I wanted to share with him. But on the other hand, I could not blame her for being a woman. And I could not deny it, something was growing between us, far beyond all expectations.
After the meal, Mel made us visiting his boat. As a sailor myself, I was impressed. But I had to wake up early the next morning for a business trip, so we went straight to bed. At last alone! She was already naked in bed, and couldn’t wait longer.
We passionately kissed, our naked bodies trying desperately to get as much skin touching each other. Our sexual organs seemed to try to kiss each other on the same way too. My bare dick was stimulating her pussy more and more, and I felt it became more and more wet. We were so hungry of each other, we didn’t want to interrupt such magical moment. No one started, it came naturally. Slowly I penetrated her deeper and deeper. Yes, we were making love without condom. I felt each of her emotions through her pussy. What was happening between us was stronger than fear. She whispered: “Mi amor, es una locura”, but slowly kept going on moving her hips and added :”Que rico”. No matter what could happen later, I will never regret having lived those magical moments with her. I made them last an eternity, as I was able to control myself. I tried to give her as much pleasure as I could, finding out the position that was fitting best to her. The best stimulation for her was having her legs closed, trapping firmly my dick. It was not my favorite position, but her pleasure mattered me most than mine. She asked me not to come inside her, and she fully trusted me. I was not sure when she had her orgasm, but when she was finished she asked me to put the condom for me to come too.
This interruption made her a typical female reaction coming back. She remembered Mel’s date telling her I had asked about Lorena at Seamens. I was surprised she came with such bullshit, did not find the right answer, and simply confirmed I have had no other girl today than her. Yes, she definitely was not a hooker anymore, but a woman with all the positive and negative sides of it. Damned, why did she gossip about this with her? It took me quiet a while to get her back to her previous mood. And I did not continue with her before I felt she was again in the good mood for that. When I orgasmed, she went straight to the bathroom to take a shower. I followed right after, had a pie, washed myself thoroughly and put Betadine, a large spectrum antisceptic on my dick, a tip from a mongering physician.
When I came back, she seemed to have forgotten about her jealousy and was again as sweet as usual. She thanked me for her orgasm, and when I replied I was not sure having given to her, she smiled, and said I could not ignore the pleasure I had given to her. We slept together arms in arms all night. Each time I woke up, we were still enlaced. In the early morning, I was holding her firmly from behind. She noticed my erection on her butt, and with one hand redirected it between her legs towards her pussy. She seemed asleep, but I noticed a slow movement from her hips. I felt her pussy being wet very soon, enough again to slowly enter. The horny feeling made her wake up and she turned around, facing me again. Soon we were making love as passionate as were we had left it before falling asleep. We both knew we were spending our last moments together, and tried to stop the time. She seemed to be less sweet and more horny in the morning than in the evening, which was fine to me. Her hips movements went faster and faster, stronger and stronger. I enjoyed each second, and felt from her pussy that she enjoyed it as much as I did. It was incredible! When she orgasmed, it was so strong, I felt the contraction of her pussy on the same time as I heard her final cry. There is no greater pleasure than giving such pleasure to a woman! She asked me to put a condom for me to come too, but I preferred staying inside her as long as possible, my orgasm was nothing compared to the pleasure of being bareback inside her pussy. I stayed inside her for more than an hour, moving enough to keep an erection and not enough to orgasm. We passionately kissed, both refusing this magical night to end.
When the alarm went on, I knew the dream was over, I had to go. I took a quick shower and dressed myself up. She begged me to stay longer and delay my flight. I had a hard time convincing her she needed to dress herself too, as I had to leave. I felt I had done enough stupid things that night, I could not forget also my professional responsibilities. But what worried me most, was to face that moment I hate most, when I would see her disappearing at the door of the brothel.
It was nice exiting the boat on an early Saint Maarten’s morning with this typical marina atmosphere remembering me numerous past adventures on the Caribbean sea. Thanks Mel, for having me offered the ideal environment for this unforgettable night! We walked away hand in hand with the rising sun, last moments of tenderness.
The farewell moments at Carolina’s parking lot were harder than ever. I explained her how painful it was to me not to be able to help her. She answered that we all need to make sacrifice for our families, like she does for doing such a job. But, she simply wanted to forget about all this, and remembering that only night, were we were both two lovers regardless of our usual life. She added she would never forget me. She simply hoped that we would meet us once again somewhere else. I guess women are far better in finding the right words on the right moment. I had her address in Colombia and I promised her to come to see her once there and she promised me my full novio status anywhere else than SXM. I left Saint Maarten by plane and above Montserrat I could watch an unusual natural event, a fully active volcano, as if to prove how special this trip had been.
I was reluctant posting about all this. First, because of the bareback experience, as it is not meant in any way for promoting unsafe sex. I was not fucking bareback a prostitute, I was making love with a girlfriend and did it without condom like most of you would do it in a private matter. This brings me to the second reason, as I’m not quiet sure such a story has to be on a prostitution forum. I suppose you have noticed that I never mentioned her name. Third, I guess some of you will wonder if all this is the true, as it seems to happen to me more than often lately, at least more than it is statistically possible. For years I have worked on how to get GFE, and I now seem to get GF (in contrast with GFE) more than I would like to have. I’m not bragging, on the contrary, it seems I have lost control over it. It’s getting more and more difficult to me leaving a girl in her shit after having spend such a wonderful time together. I feel guilty, not to mention the morality towards my own family. For sure I’m in the danger zone.
I’m back at home again but I don’t have my usual hilarious mood after a mongering trip. On sunday, I watched a Colombian movie on HBO “Maria full of grace” in Spanish version, as if everything tries to make me remember that magical night. The story is about three Colombian girls used by maffia as drug mule, smuggling cocaine inside their body. I had the tears in my eyes, it was so realistic. Yes, I fully recognised our girls! Women full of love, so sweet and tender, but on the same time so strong and ready to sacrifice their own body for helping their beloved family in Colombia. Yes, I feel bad. It might have been my last mongering trip.
Routard,
That was one of the most outstanding, well written, and deeply felt summaries of a GFE that I have ever read on this forum. You have captured exactly what most men only dream of. I salute you for your words of passion and expression of enjoyment and pleasure.
Please can anyone recommend a good priced hotel that is guest friendly and close to the action?
Thanks
[QUOTE=Professor10]Routard,
That was one of the most outstanding, well written, and deeply felt summaries of a GFE that I have ever read on this forum. You have captured exactly what most men only dream of. I salute you for your words of passion and expression of enjoyment and pleasure.[/QUOTE]Yes indeed, I have read much worst stuff in novels and magazines.
I have found really moving the respect you shoved for the girl.
[QUOTE=Tosser33]Please can anyone recommend a good priced hotel that is guest friendly and close to the action?
Thanks[/QUOTE]Having been going to St.Martin for 10 years and although I usually stay at my time share I have stayed elsewhere and never had any problem or question asked about brings a beautiful latin girl, 25 years my junior, back to the resort by management or anyone else. There are no decent hotels "near the action" if you mean walking distance. 99% of the hotels are beach front and the clubs are off the beach. As far as "good price" that is not as easy. In fact I moved my next trip from St. Maarten to Germany because of the hotel price. I found airfare for $500 to St Martin but the hotels were $150 a night or up. I am going to FKK land for $450 air and 50 euro a night decent hotels. Plus I love the guaranteed bbbjtc of FKK vs. hit or miss in the caribbean.
JL
You will love St. Martin though.
Well, just a quick report today. I was supposed to try to meet Zing this afternoon at Carolinas, but I think I missed him. I was a bit late! I went in and it was a bit crowded, two boats at dock. I saw some new faces at Carolinas (or at least ones I hadn't seen before!) A good bit of really nice looking girls.
I saw Natalia as I went to the bar and got a beer. She was working some other guy. She saw me and waved and then left the guy and came over to me to say hello. She thanked me for the CD's I had copied for her and we talked a bit about her life back home, her reason for coming to St. Maarten, and just what she wants to do with her life. We actually have that in common.
Anyway, I asked her to the back and off we went. A brief history: I've had her a few times before, and earlier this week had a really great GFE on a TLN. This is my first time back with her since the TLN on Monday night. We started with a good bit of kissing on the mouth. We slowly removed our clothes and ended up naked on the bed, kneeling, facing each other and making out and rubbing each others privates. It was pretty great!
She put the condom on and went for a little CBJ (I've never asked "sin condom" with her - don't want to queer things) then laid down for sex. I instead kissed her all over, rubbed her, and then penetrated. We went at it for a good 5 - 10 minutes [I lose all concept of time during sex] and the I pulled out and did a bit of ferocious DATY with a couple of fingers inside of her. She was really grinding it and loving it. I then went back inside her and she had her legs wrapped around me tight and was grinding the hell out of it.
Again, I'm *pretty* sure she came just a few seconds (maybe 1 minute) before I did. I sure hope she did. She seemed to really enjoy the sex! Afterwards we laid down again for a good 20 minutes and talked and joked about the room we were in (it wasn't hers.) There were some strange decorations! We laid their naked talking for that time and she kept holding on to me and we kept kissing after that. It was a really great GFE. Really enjoyable.
Just wanted to report about today. Nice times! I hope next time I can find Zing and learn a lot from the old pro!
[QUOTE=Mel365]When I was in the bar with her for the second time my cell rang, it was routard.
It getting late more to follow.[/QUOTE]
Mel, more than a week and still no news since these last words of you. Some will start to think I might have murderer you that night on the boat! Show us you are still alive!
Another quick report. I was out Friday night with some friends and had a few drinks. Afterwards, I went by Carolina's and found Natalia. I went in and asked her if she wanted to come over again for a TLN. I got her down to a really good price. She said sure (of course)
So she came over, and we laid on the couch and watched the spanish channel (she loved that! ) I was dead tired and we ended up falling asleep on the couch. She moved us to the bed at some point in the night (I don't even remember.) We spent the night cuddled up in my bed. I woke up with an errection early in the morning but didn't do anything, but she felt it and initiated CFS. It was one of those early morning, not-too-pationate sexes. You know what I'm talking about! We hung out a bit more in the morning then I had to get her home. Anyway. Not too much to report here!
Although, we do have plans to go eat this week. I gave her my #. Any reccomendations on where to bring her for a quick dinner?
[QUOTE=Sxmperson101]Any reccomendations on where to bring her for a quick dinner?[/QUOTE]
Haha ... next after mongering and tropical beaches/sailing I would rank dining as the best reason to visit SXM. As a regular SXM visitor I am sure you are aware. Marigot and Grand Case on the French side are IMHO the two dining capitols with dozens of places, but for a QUICK dinner I suppose you mean something closer ...?
- Phillipsburg is obviously the closest place (a 3 mnts ride by car). The seaside had been upgraded very nicely since I was in SXM a couple of years ago. It has many places.
- For fine dining in a classical French/Carribean restaurant you could try L'Escargot Restaurant in 96 Front Street [url]http://www.visitsxm.com/restaurants/view.cfm?ID=142[/url] Maybe Phillipsburg's finest?
- Actually I found the restaurant at Captain Oliver's in Oyster Pond very nice. Marina atmosphere. They got great lobsters. Perfect if you prefer a nice quiet place a bit away from the crowds in Phillipsberg. 10 mnts ride from Carolina. As readers of this forum know, Captain Oliver's is also recommended by many as a great place to stay being close to the action. Could be combined with a TLN.
If you are willing to drive 20- 30 mnts looking for party atmosphere, you could try:
- Sunset Beach Bar by the beach in Simpson Bay (near the airport) [url]http://www.sunsetbeachbar.com/[/url]. Like the name says this is a bar (not a restaurant) with music, live entertainment and party atmosphere. But they also have a decent BBQ for a quick bite.
- Cherie's Cafe at Maho Beach; great food and live entertainment. Fun place, great for lovers, a great place to take her for a dance, maybe a bit touristic. Later in the night you could take her to the nightclubs in Maho Beach (Gizmo, Q-club, etc.)
The choices are so many ...
Enjoy!
[QUOTE=Routard]Mel, more than a week and still no news since these last words of you. Some will start to think I might have murderer you that night on the boat! Show us you are still alive![/QUOTE]I was in st maarten last week and saw mel since his report. Mel is alive, but he looked a bit shell-shocked, like he had overdosed on girls.
I shared lunch again with Kenney (aka Shakira, rm 14) and her roommate "little" Tatiana (as opposed to tall tatiana), sitting on paint cans at the end of the hallway. Then went to the room with Kenney for 30 minutes of foreplay, then got back in the bar just in time for my meeting with Mel. after chatting for a while, he went off to a business appt and I went back in the room with Kenney again for another 50 minutes. She gave me a nice bottle of Merlot as a gift afterwards. Then back to the bar to meet sxmperson, but missed him!
-zing
[QUOTE=Sxmperson101] Any reccomendations on where to bring her for a quick dinner?[/QUOTE]A good place is Tropicana Restarant on Marina Royale in Marigot on the French side. However, call to see what time they start serving dinner, as I presume you will want to go during the girl's break period when there is no bar fine (4-7pm). 0590 87 79 07.
Unfortunately, traffic to marigot and back at that time could conflict with rush hour and could easily waste 60 to 90 minutes.
so stick to phillipsburg for an early dinner and you need easy parking.
I suggest the restaurants on the cruise ship side of the harbour:
In bobby's marina - Greenhouse, Le Blue Peter, or the bar has food too. And there is a gated parking lot for diners that usually has space.
In Chesterfield marina (the last place before the cruise ship area) the restaurant is ok, parking is easy, and the view of the harbour is nice.
All of these places are 3 minutes from carolina. And the walk down the beach boardwalk is accessible from greenhouse restaurant, and quite enjoyable with a chica (or two)!
I agree with Captain Olivers too - only 10 minutes away, no traffic or parking problems.
-zing
p.s. I think you are doing fine with your TLN. If the girl is adaptable (enjoys watching TV on your sofa when that is what you are up for), considerate (she carries you into the bedroom when you fall asleep) and obliging (she initiates sex in the morning), that is better than 90% of the wifes and girlfriends in USA.
[QUOTE=Zing23]p.s. I think you are doing fine with your TLN. If the girl is adaptable (enjoys watching TV on your sofa when that is what you are up for), considerate (she carries you into the bedroom when you fall asleep) and obliging (she initiates sex in the morning), that is better than 90% of the wifes and girlfriends in USA.[/QUOTE]Thank you! I'm a bit weird on the whole TLN thing. Obviously I'm out mongering and want some sex. And the TLN is obviously a lot more expensive. But, the girl is really nice and enjoyable, and I dunno, I guess I just want her to have a decent time.
She's told me what she doesn't like about the job (it's been expressed here before from some of you guys saying other girls have said it too.) I guess I just get her out of the environment for the night. I don't speak spanish extremely well, but she seemed happy to watch a bit of TV in spanish (viva la telemundo.. that channel has the most beautiful girls!) Also she gets a good nights sleep in a comfortable bed in a reasonably clean and nice apartment.
But, at the same time, I'm paying a good bit to give a girl a good time. Haha. I guess I'm hoping the TLN price will keep dropping till it's more afordable to do more often. I dunno. I suppose that's a stupid thing to hope for, right?
[QUOTE=Zing23]p.s. I think you are doing fine with your TLN. If the girl is adaptable (enjoys watching TV on your sofa when that is what you are up for), considerate (she carries you into the bedroom when you fall asleep) and obliging (she initiates sex in the morning), that is better than 90% of the wifes and girlfriends in USA.[/QUOTE]I wanted to comment on your last line. I really agree with you. I've had a number of girlfriends in the past, and I really would rate my GFE with my TLN as good or better than any of my past GFs. I had a GF here on the island for a while, but quit seeing her and just preferred to go mongering.
[QUOTE=Sxmperson101]But, at the same time, I'm paying a good bit to give a girl a good time. Haha. I guess I'm hoping the TLN price will keep dropping till it's more afordable to do more often. I dunno. I suppose that's a stupid thing to hope for, right?[/QUOTE]
I envy you, as unlike each of us, you live in SXM and you are single. I have only a couple of days if not one night only to build up something with a chica. Time is your best friend, and your unrushed attitude with Natalia is very promising.
The chicas have sacrified three monthes of their life in order to come back to with their well earned money. For the pricing of TLN, they will not take into consideration how hard or how nice it will be to spent their time with the customer. They will simply compare it to the money they would have earned if they would have stayed working at the club. This is very understandable. A long term relationship might then become very pricey.
My best advice would be offer her to come after closing time, unless she manages to get a TLN with a customer. It will allow her to continue earning as much money and still spending some good time with you. You will offer her a quiet and confortable environment instead of sharing a small room in a brothel with another chica, why would she refuse it?
Keep on.
[QUOTE=Sxmperson101]
But, at the same time, I'm paying a good bit to give a girl a good time. Haha. I guess I'm hoping the TLN price will keep dropping till it's more afordable to do more often. I dunno. I suppose that's a stupid thing to hope for, right?[/QUOTE]I agree with Routard - there are possibilities here. I was going to suggest the same thing that he did: If you really think Natalia values having an occassional quiet night away from the club, in a comfortable bed and apartment, with a good breakfast, and some understanding conversation, tell her that you would be pleased to have her spend the night, whenever she needs to get away. I think you may find that this is attractive to her, or perhaps not. You are taking a bit of a risk, but think of it all as a learning experience.
Tell her that you have only a little money, so you can't afford to pay TLN all the time, but you can pay the taxi fare over and back. Ask her to call you at the end of her shift when she wants to come over for a visit. if you have sex with her, i would credit her $40 each time in my mind (less the taxi fare), even if i don't pay her right then. You can always give her a big cash gift when she leaves for Colombia.
-zing
i have been making daily notes and will post later but today was tooooo good to believe.
8 chicas on my boat for a sail. when the owner of the club came on board he said take them below and fuck them all. 4 guys having sex with 8 women a classic orgy. all for FREE as the girls wanted to go sailing. just food and booze. when we landed we had 2 garbage bags of empty beer, wine, and booze bottles. i don't drink but the chicas were total barracho.
i just had to share. many pictures to follow.
more to follow when i can see straight.
mel
[QUOTE=Mel365]i have been making daily notes and will post later but today was tooo good to believe.
8 chicas on my boat for a sail. when the owner of the club came on board he said take them below and fuck them all. 4 having sex a classic orgy
i just had to share. many pictures to follow.
more to follow when i can see straight.
mel[/QUOTE]Hmm. I didn't get my invite to that :) haha
[QUOTE=Mel365]8 chicas on my boat for a sail. [/QUOTE]
The most famous boat of the Caribbean! Can't wait to see the pictures and read the story!
I need some quick advice! Natalia called me to go eat tomorrow. She wants to go eat at 8:00pm. I think 8:00pm is when they go "back on the clock." Do you think she is thinking eat and then afterwards a TLN? I don't want to do that.. I can't afford that again so soon. In fact, if I have to "pay" her anything (besides her meal, obviously), I don't want to go out to eat. I'm not that lonely!
Does anyone know what I could ask (preferably in spanish) to ensure there is no communication error? Thank you for any advice.
[QUOTE=Sxmperson101]I need some quick advice! Natalia called me to go eat tomorrow. She wants to go eat at 8:00pm. I think 8:00pm is when they go "back on the clock." Do you think she is thinking eat and then afterwards a TLN? I don't want to do that.. I can't afford that again so soon. In fact, if I have to "pay" her anything (besides her meal, obviously), I don't want to go out to eat. I'm not that lonely!
Does anyone know what I could ask (preferably in spanish) to ensure there is no communication error? Thank you for any advice.[/QUOTE]
Hay un problema pequeño, mi amor. Yo no tengo el dinero para la multa. Yo sólo tengo suficiente dinero para nuestra cena. ¿Es posible ir a las 6 de la tarde en lugar?
(in english: "there is a small problem, my love. i don't have the money for the fine. i only have enough money for our dinner. is it possible to go at 6pm instead?"
keep it simple, tell the truth. perhaps she will pay the bar fine (multa) herself, or perhaps she assumes that like all americans you are rich and have unlimited money.
-zing
[QUOTE=Zing23]Hay un problema pequeño, mi amor. Yo no tengo el dinero para la multa. Yo sólo tengo suficiente dinero para nuestra cena. ¿Es posible ir a las 6 de la tarde en lugar?
-zing[/QUOTE]
Nice, but change the third sentence, doesn't translate correctly what you have. (en lugar) doesn't work.
Es posible ir a las 6 de la tarde en vez de las 8?
(Is it possible to go at 6 in the afternoon instead of 8?)
Taker easy .... :)
I have been very busy with my current love who will remain nameless. We have spent about 12 nites together. and about 6 days more to follow about her. However in the afternoon I have time to play. Yesterday I went over to Carolinas and had a session with Valentina a cute Columbiana
Freckles on her face and a great smile. I have seen her many times and I decided to have a session. She is upstairs in the VIP room across from the public bathroom.
The bed is about 4 feet off the floor and has a pole for gymnastics.
Climbed a few steps to get to the bed. I tried to massage her, finger her, daty----not interested. No bbbj like an operating room she then went to cowboy and had a most uneducated pussy. Fortunately my phone rang and I paid her and left.
I wanted to save my leche for a better performer.
I had seen this petite spinner at seamans in the last few weeks with a great pair of mamas about 5 feet tall and very cute. Leisa room 12. Routard teenage looking and petite right up your alley.
We went to the room she went into the adjoining room 11 as hers was occupied.
She went into the normal routine she asked if I wanted a massage, I told her that time is important and slow down I wanted a poquito amour. I said no and laid her down on the bed and started massaging her neck. She truly loved it spent a 20 minutes working her muscles and then the knock on the door from the rooms owner. So long hard on.
We then went to daty with a very wet juicy pussy. It seems that many girls here have a very small clit hers was of a nice size and nice to nibble and easy to work on. She started to get very wet and then wanted a finger in her pussy. Then she gave me the tube of ky and asked for a second finger in her culo, that action put her over the edge and she came in my mouth and immediately closed her legs and became untouchable . classic genuine orgasm. Getting late have another date with my amour . I will finish the day later.
mel
I received my medical test results, and everything is OK after my Bare back experience. The most difficult part was fearing to meet somebody in the HIV STD department waiting room and facing again my female doctor. Yes, I don't care abroad, even public group sex in a club is no big deal for me, but in my homeplace, I'm considered as a serious respectable man. My doctor is a charming lady and we are from the same community. I was embarassed being the bad husband in front of her, but she was happy to see me again. When I confessed a second bareback experience, she didn't try to moralize me, on the contrary. She started glorifying passion that makes losing control, philosophizing about life that is too short and so on...She minimized my fears, as she said that STD have clear symptoms after one week and HIV is not that easy to transmit. She confirmed me too that the Betadine could indeed help preventing. She is great!
Hello,,,
Just a quick report. I took Natalia out to eat the other night. She was prompt and read on time. She looked beautiful and we went out for a great dinner. I did have to pay the "multa", but she was not expecting a TLN. She enjoyed the food, and I did too, and we laughed a bit and it was a nice time. I went ahead and did the TLN anyway (haha).
But. I don't know. I guess I lost my interest in her and I didn't enjoy the TLN that much. Despite what I may want to believe that I think or feel, I think that inside I resent the high price for just one or two sex sessions. Also, there are a lot of beautiful girls at Carolinas and Seamans that I want to have sex with!
BTW, congratulations on your test!
Hello,,,
I have two nights to report on.
Saturday night:
After my TLN with Natalia earlier in the week I decided to take a break from her. I went back to Seamans to see what they had going on there. They have a whole slew of new girls, really beautiful ones too! I went in and got a beer and went to sit in a corner and just hide out and inspect the girls. There was an absolutetly beautiful girl there in the corner where I was and I ended up talking to her for a bit. I brought her back. Her name is Paola. She's a really cool girl, really beautiful, nice body, enhanced breasts. She's a complete trip. She undresses you and hangs your clothes up for you. I think she has quite a few obsessive-compulsive tendencies. She lays you down, asks you to relax, and then gives you a really great CBJ (for a looooong time) and then meticulously applies the lube on the condom and then slowly gets on your cock. Really intersting. I was trying to speak spanish with her, and she would stop mid-blowjob to give a spanish lesson. I was cracking up inside! She was sort-of mechanical at first, but then I took control of the sex session and I'm pretty sure I made her cum. Also, she had a song on repeat on the cd-player and I swear it played at least 12-15 times or whatever. It was so funny.
I then went back into the bar and ended up leaving and going over to Carolina's to say Hello,, to Natalia. I talked to her about a possible TLN and TLD and she gave me an outrageous price, then offered a deal "for me". Still way too much! I guess I still have a problem with the whole idea. I figure I'm doing her a favor by having her spend a day away from having to fuck a whole lot of strangers, but she still sees it as a job or whatever. I don't know! Anyway, so I told her I was just stopping by to say Hello,,, and that I didn't have any money, and that I needed to leave.
So I left and went back to Seamans. I had seen another girl there I wanted to go back with. I talked to her for a few minutes and asked her back and we had a good time. She was good looking, a great body and nice natural breasts. But, I just didn't find her interesting or anything. Just a great CFS and that was it. I don't even remember her name (sorry! ) Nice girl though and she asked when I would be back to see her. You'll recognize her at the club: long dark hair slightly curly hair, great body, nice breasts, etc.
And then I have to report on tonight (Sunday): I started the night off at Seamans. When I was talking in both Paola and the 2nd girl from last night were standing outside. The 2nd girl remembered my name and greeted me, and I felt so bad because I didn't remember hers but I just played it off. It was awkward because I went to Seaman's to hook up with Paola again, and she was standing there with the other girl! So I went in and grabbed a beer and grabbed my corner again (I love it! ) and drank my beer and just enjoyed it. I then got another beer and drank it, just relaxing and taking it all in, and wondering what kind of person I am.
Then I got up and went over to talk to Paola and asked her back. We went back in her room and had almost an exact repeat of the previous night: hang my clothes up, CBJ, meticulous application of lube on the condom then the exact same start of sex. Again, after a few minutes I took over and put her in doggy style and was rubby the shit out of her clit and driving her crazy. She was getting into it. You know you can tell when they are faking and when they aren't. She wasn't! She was gripping the heck out of her pillow and loving it. She came, and I came about 5 seconds afterwards. A big change from the previous night.- she laid there and I was still inside her and she kept telling me "thank you! "
So we stayed there and she cleaned up her vagina real quick and my penis (my balls were covered in her cum). We talked for at least 30 minutes on her bed about all sorts of things. I'm surprising myself how much conversation I can have in spanish. Considering my spanish is not good! Finally when it was time to go she asked for my email addy and # so I gave it to her, and she gave me hers. Really cool girl. Beautiful, nice in bed, etc. Plus she's really weird (and so am I).- so I find that interesting! She will probably be my regular at Seamans club.
So after Seamans I dragged ass over to Carolinas. I went in and got another beer and was checking out the girls. Natalia was nowhere to be seen. A really beautiful girl left the guy she was talking to and came over to start hitting on me to try to get me to bring her back. Boy was I tempted! She was beautiful and was playing with my cock! It's hard to say no! Haha.
So. This beautiful girl is playing with my penis (as I'm sure she does with everyone she's trying to get $$$ from), and I look over her shoulder and I see a chica (that I've never seen before) signalling me to go talk to her (not subtly either! ) So I thought she meant for the chica to go talk to her, so I pointed the chica in her direction, then she made it clear it was me she wanted to talk to. So I go over. And she tells me "Hi,. Natalia is getting ready, please wait on her! " So I say "Oh sure, of course! " So I tell the chica that was trying to get my business that I was "esperando para Natalia" and she was kinda upset and walked off.
(In the meantime, the chica that was trying to get my business walks over and grabs me and just plants a huge kiss right on my lips and holds me, it was so f-ing awkward! )
So I'm standing there waiting, and I see another chica (who is absolutetly GORGEOUS, I actually was hoping to hook up with her that night! ) look at me and she tells me to just keep waiting because Natalia will be ready soon. (I think it's really ironic I'm suppoed to wait on her to finish fucking someone and I'm not supposed to fuck anyone in the interim! Kidding.) So I wait at the bar and order a drink, and the 1st chica that told me to wait on Natalia comes over to talk to me and starts telling me how Natalia has "so much love" for me. I don't know what that meant, or if it was just poorly translated or what. Anyway, so Natalia comes out and comes right over to me and we hang out at the bar for a while. I bought her friend a drink and I gave them a few bucks to go tip their friends that were dancing.
So anyway, I ask Natalia back and we went to a far off room and, well, I'm sure you can figure out the rest. It was an extremely great GFE. Really, it felt like a real GF I was making love to. A ton of pationate kissing before hand, great long sex, tons more kissing, cuddling and talking. It's always weird pulling out the wallet and paying her at the end. You know what I mean?
Anyway. Quite a weekend! I gotta get control over my mongering or else I'm going to go broke!
Hey guys,
I think I have to quit mongering. Or at least in the respect that you guys do it. Tonight I had an experience and it made me realize I can't do this type of thing in the capacity that you guys do.
As you guys know my regular at Seaman's has been Natalia. Well, after last night with her and what her friend told me, it made me feel relatively nice about my mongering abilities and just about myself as a person. I thought I would do something nice for her this day, so this afternoon I went and got her one of the great knock-off purses they sell here in St. Maarten.
So I went out tonight to Seamans to bring it to her. I had it concealed in a backpack. Anyway, I walk into the club and I see her immediately, and she's surrounded by a few black guys. That made my heart sink. I'm not racist or anything, but she told me she never slept with black guys and that she never would, etc. And I see her over there with them. Additionally, I'm well aware of the endemic levels of certain diseases on the island in the local population.
I actually felt a bit jealous. I don't know why. I know what she is and what her job is, and that my "relationship" with her has always been just superficial and probably always revolving around money. So I get a beer and I'm waiting on her. I go and sit by her friend that talked to me the previous night about Natalia and talked a bit with her. She was asking me if I was taking Natalia on a TLN tonight. I said I wasn't.. And then Natalia walked over and grabbed me and brought me to the back room.
She told me she was going on a TLN with two of her friends with the three black guys. So she's going off on an all night gang bang. It made me feel weird because of several reasons. One reason being that she told me she never did that, and the other reason just being that despite everything that I'm obviously aware of regarding the situation, I still I guess felt a little something for her. It's just weird I supposed if you give even just a little bit of a shit about a girl and you see her going off to be gangbanged the whole night. I was a bit upset, but wouldn't let that be known.
So she told me, and I was like "oh, ok.." And she wouldn't let go of me and kept saying "please don't be angry with me." She said it and said it and I kept saying "de nada.." She explained that there was almost no business that night and that she had to do it.
But when she said that I realized at that moment that what I was doing, the whole mongering thing, was just worthless. I can communicate with spanish speakers decently, but only in extremely boring sentences. It's a problem I've had before. My ex-fiance was hispanic and spoke really great english, but I'm a weird motherfucker, and in real-life (as opposed to computers) I have a rather flamboyant use of the english language and I like to spin metaphors or other such devices to get my point across. I realized that I couldn't even explain anything that I felt or whatever, and that the whole thing was rather worhtless to think about.
So, anyway, she had to go upstairs to get ready for her gang bang and so I went ahead and pulled out the gift I had bought her and gave it to her and asked her to not open it until she was upstairs. She thanked me and left, and so did I.
I dunno.. It' just odd. I guess I started to care a bit about her. After what her friend told me, and then what Natalia and I talked about the prior night, it was just odd. Obvioulsy I'm aware of her job, but it was just weird seeing that. Plus it just grosses me out. I've gone down on her before, and now I think about three black cocks in her in one night.
Anyway, I don't know if I can do this shit anymore, at least not in this regard. I can still go and find a random chica and fuck her when I need to get a nut off, but I don't think I can do the thing anymore where you stick with 1 chica and do the stuff like Zing does, to get a GFE, etc.
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Shit, that should have been at Carolina's, not Seaman's!
sxmperson.
i had a similar experience when i picked up mi amour very early this month for a tln. she was just coming from her room with her previous date.
i told her that i understand that she has to work, but i would prefer not to see her coming back from the room with her client when she has finished working. after that time i always arranged a time or called her so i would not run into her previous client. she is also clean and dressed for me to take her out. it is nice to see her sitting on a bar stool all made up waiting for me. next time you are at the bar look around. there are a lot less white people than people of other races. if you believe that your date is not having sex with people other than whites i believe you are deluding yourself. the girls are there for money and not laughs and giggles and will bend the truth to satifsy your dreams or ideals.
mel
[QUOTE=Sxmperson101]Anyway, I don't know if I can do this shit anymore, at least not in this regard. I can still go and find a random chica and fuck her when I need to get a nut off, but I don't think I can do the thing anymore where you stick with 1 chica and do the stuff like Zing does, to get a GFE, etc.
[/QUOTE]When you pay a girl to have sex with you, you don't have to worry about being turned down, you don't have to worry about her pleasure (if you don't want to), and primarily you don't have to deal with the complications that can always develop after sex, especially repeated sex (expectations, responsibilities, committments that later turn out to be ill-advised, etc.).
The flip side of that bargain is that she has sex with anyone who has $40, she will usually tell you exactly what you want to hear (even if it isn't precisely truthful), you can never be 100% certain that she is enjoying the sex at all, and you can't easily develop a true romantic relationship with her.
There is a strong element of fantasy - the girl pretends to love you and to want you, and you pretend to be her boyfriend (which may help her deal with her job).
Natalia knew that you were living in a fantasy - that is why when you discovered her planning an all-night gang bang, she was desperate to make you understand, to re-instate the fantasy. but first and foremost, she is in SXM to do a job, and to make as much money as possible for something that she thinks is important.
When I have a good time with a girl, I thank her for coming to St Maarten, for putting up with men who are sometimes rough, smelly and possibly dangerous. Enduring all of that, so that she can be here to make me happy. That lets her know that I understand and accept her job, that I am not living in a total fantasy, but that I think she is special and worthwhile and wouldn't mind a little fantasy.
When I am interested in being friends with one of the girls, which I started to think about after about 6 months of this mongering experience, I came to the conclusion that I should aim for small accomplishments. For example, taking her for a walk on the beach or the boardwalk during her free time, no multa, no sex, just shared experiences. Not aiming for a free TLN.
Perhaps I am lucky in that my personal circumstances eliminate most possibiliies for TLN - if I had 15 hours straight with a chica I might lose track of the reality of the situation.
-zing
I completely see what both of you are saying, and think they are really good pointers.
Zing,
I agree it is def. easy to lose sight of reality when you start spending nights together!
Mel,
How on earth do you do it? 12 nights together!
Thanks SXMperson for sharing you experience about Nathalia. I envied you for living in SXM as a single , but I guess it's also way more dangerous. I never see the mess before and after, and dropping the girl at the brothel's door before I leave SXM is already hard enough to manage. Yes, trying to get more than sex is dangerous business, either for her or for you.
During my latest TLN, I'm convinced that both of us lost control and were sincere. I did not plan this, but it happened. It happened because there was a mutual feeling. It was a wonderful night and even if it was a stupid thing to do, I'm happy I could have lived such a strong experience.
But what happened later? I was back at home, didn't want to have sex before my medical result which was probably fine for my wife and kept thinking about her. I cared for her, because I knew it would be harder than ever for her to get back to work. I knew also that she had to try to forget me as soon as possible to survive. When I received her Email at last, I understood everything was over. She faked feelings in the Email, but I didn't blame her for that. On the contrary, I felt better, as I understood she had managed to get control again in order to deal with the emotional issue of her job. Don't blame Natalia for that too, she needs to protect herself.
In the meantime, I had booked a trip to Bogota in July. Yes, I wanted to meet her there once she would be back again in Colombia. And guess what? I didn't tell her, and I won't try to see her there. I prefer to keep it with this wonderful remembrance of that night when both of us were sincere.
I surprised myself, but I have sended an Email to another girl to tell her I would come to Bogota. It's Louisa. I never managed to get GFE from her, but I have a sincere friendship with her. We know us both very well and appreciate each other. We keep in touch for nearly a year. She keeps me informed about herself. She went to work in Panama and is currently back in Colombia. She never tried to fake romance or fake an orgasm. When we had sex, I just felt that she was confortable and happy to give me such a pleasure with her body, but that was it. Imagine giving a massage to someone you care for, you are just happy to give that person a good time. She explained me that to deal with her job, she simply couldn't allow herself to loose control, and I respect that.
When she knew I would come to Bogota, she was so happy, I can't wait to see her. I don't know how things will turn out. Yes, I hope that in Bogota without the emotional issue of her job I will manage to get a romance with her. It might not work out, but it doesn't matter. I still will be happy to see her in her own environment and having a guide for discovering Colombia. She knows how much I love sex, she might even help me to find out the mongering scene in Bogota! No matter if it's a romance or friendship, I only want her to be sincere.
Yes, a romance with a working girl can only be considerer on a short term basis. But friendship...
You see,when I start out on a mongering expedition I am going gangbusters. By the end of the trip, it is not much fun for me not because I have developed any real feelings for these girls, but because of a kind of self loathing that I begin to feel about a week in. I don't do TLN with these girls and absolutely make sure that I don't develop an attachment to them. I do this because I am a believer that these girls are here for the buck, and so why get entangled. But this detachment probably contributes to how disgusted I get with myself after about a week of mongering.
Of course, that disgust is not nearly enough to keep me from participating, which what I did the past two weeks. I frequented Carolinas and Seamans. I stopped into Casa Blanca once, and looked repeatedly for Defiance but could not find it in the dark.
I wholeheartedly agree with the quality at Carolinas. Probably the hottest girl there in my estimation was tall Vanessa. Beautiful face--about 5'10'', slim--HOT. I went with her a total of three times. She has a kid, and there is absolutely no sign of it on her body. Not the greatest kisser, but she had what I consider to be one of those shallow glove pussies. The kind that just hug your stuff, and you definitely hit bottom--not at all common for me! She was a bit manipulative, but I just couldn't get enough of the body.. Also had a threesome with Carolina and Laura--roommates. Laura was the only one of the troop that did bbbj unsolicited, and even allowed cim. So don't kiss her. Also went with Tatiana--very short, cute face, nice girl. Childbirth was a little less kind to her. And I think a girl named Paulina. Super pretty face, perky little nose, big fake boobs. Decent performer.
One thing I did notice with every single one of these girls is they make a beeline straight for your nipples. Is this a brothel trick, or do all the Colombian girls do this?
I spent a bit of time in Seamans as well. Most memorable was a little blond girl from Trinidad. I started talking Spanish to her and she looked at me like I was retarded and told me she speaks English. My bad. She has the oriental tats down her right arm. I think they say 'High Maintenance.' She was aware of the nipple sucking propensity of her colleagues, and actually wiped mine clean in case one of her friends had got to them before she could. Dainty. She was singing 70's mellow rock to me in somewhat broken english the entire time she rode me. It was pretty hot.
I also had a nice time with Marcella--really a good performer who understood the importance of a good dramatic showing while giving a cbj. Valentina was another very pretty Colombian.
I think comparing Seamans to Carolinas is a push, but Carolinas was a little more upbeat.
Anyways, it was a fine trip. Not necessarily a mongering destination as rife with possibility as Rio, but it holds its own. I will be back.
[QUOTE=umgman]I spent a bit of time in Seamans as well. Most memorable was a little blond girl from Trinidad. I started talking Spanish to her and she looked at me like I was retarded and told me she speaks English. My bad. She has the oriental tats down her right arm. I think they say 'High Maintenance.' She was aware of the nipple sucking propensity of her colleagues, and actually wiped mine clean in case one of her friends had got to them before she could. Dainty. She was singing 70's mellow rock to me in somewhat broken english the entire time she rode me. It was pretty hot. [/QUOTE]Haha, that's "Kavita" or something like that. Shes a really nice girl. She's not my type and I let her know that and she helped me find a girl that fits me @ Seamans (Paola.) It was actually extremely refreshing to have a perfect english conversation with one of the chicas. To be able to joke and laugh at something real instead of the fake laughs you get from the chicas, etc.
[QUOTE=Sxmperson101]Hey guys,
I think I have to quit mongering. Or at least in the respect that you guys do it. Tonight I had an experience and it made me realize I can't do this type of thing in the capacity that you guys do.[QUOTE]To: Sxmperson101
I know the feeling.
However, you have to keep in mind that they are in the clubs doing a job and that is to fuck every guy who is able to pay the price!
So, either you should make her your exclusive property by paying her the TLN every night or just get along with the system.
I’m very much the junior compared to other thread members with 20-30 years experience in this field but I’ve had my fair share of these dramas.
Like Zing said:” There is a strong element of fantasy - the girl pretends to love you and to want you, and you pretend to be her boyfriend (which may help her deal with her job).”
I totally agree. However, if you’re young and new in this field it’s easy to get feelings for her and get upset if something happens like what you described. It also happened to me.
My experience
The very first working girl I ever had (Maria-Brazilian in Club Diamond) was also the one-and-only for about 6 months. I visited her day and night with the staff of the club and the other girls eventually calling us husband and wife:-).Even if I wanted I couldn’t take another girl in that club ‘cause the moment I entered they would grab my hand and take me to where she was standing or told me to wait for her if she was busy with a client. If the other girls are doing this then she probably really likes you (I’m not talking about love).
So, don’t be too hard on her. It’s just her job, nothing personal.
I sometimes missed my girl because she was on a TLN with someone else. You can guess I was really pissed those nights, cursing the guy fucking her and sometimes even her. It was because of my reputation that I didn’t/ couldn’t go with the other girls even though some staff members told me to just do a TLN with some other “puta” e.g. a new girl.
Since I was new in the mongering scene I was really upset, frustrated and jealous as hell.
The first time that happened I even went to other clubs to fuck her out of my brain but that didn’t help (big surprise).
So, I just ignored her for a while: didn’t go to the club that week and didn’t answer her calls and text messages. Good thing that I had a jungle trip planned with some friends at that time. We stayed there for 12 days, far from the city and the range of cell phones. When we returned my battery was completely recharged, I was relaxed and didn’t mind seeing her again. Also I was horny as hell. So, maybe you need to take a break to cool down. It worked for me.
The strange thing is that when I entered the club again that night, she jumped on me out of nowhere; kissing me all over and telling me how much she had missed me. It was really awkward with everyone in the club looking at us. Some of her friends told me that she was sick for the last 8 days and that it was her first night working again (the staff confirmed this later).OK, now I was the bad guy with every girl finding me guilty!
The next night she told me in her room that she didn’t like this job, but that she needed the money badly and that all other guys were just “clientes”. I was her only “namorado” (=lover) Also that she cried herself sick because she thought I’d left her. Good thing I had a few pix of the jungle trip to assure her that I was indeed not in town lol.
That night I was there for just a short time (30 minutes) in which we were just talking on the bed, completely dressed. When I wanted to leave she rushed downstairs to tell the management that I had paid her TLN in her room so I could stay with her till the very next morning!
The Conclusion:
A GFE with a working girl is the best thing you can ask for. Don’t expect anything more than that. She might really like and even love you, especially if there is not a huge age difference, but because of her job you’ll have to cope with the fact that she’ll be doing other guys too. Guys she would normally never even look at. It’s a tough and soul/brain eating job so don’t be too hard on her. From your previous posts I think she really values you. Maybe you need some time to cool down and enjoy mongering again better than ever!
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Sxmperson101,
Just the plain fact that a black cock went inside your girl and you are hurt makes you one. The sad fact is you don't even know what you are. It grosses you out? The facts are she prb got plently of black dee in the past. Do you think she really cares if you care or not? Shes telling you what you want to hear. Your paying for a service plain and simple. This whole thing is funny anyway. You going down on her. Do you know by doing that you actually tasted his cock also? Ahahhaahah
Yesterday I got 4 emails from working girls that I have been corresponding with, 3 in Spanish and 1 in English.
One of them ended her message: "ya olvidaste nuestros dias de sexo entre tu y yo , los deliciosos masajes y cuando me hacias el amor , yo no lo he olvidado te amo."
which means I think: "already you have forgotten the days of sex between you and I, the delicious massages and when we made love. I have not forgotten you love, [or I have not forgotten you, I love you]."
now I thought this described our time together pretty well, so I was pleased. Then I looked up at the email header and saw that she had sent the exact same email to 5 other guys! I guess she didn't know enough about email to send the message 6 times instead of 1 time to 6 guys.
It doesn't mean she is a bad person - I have done the same thing, sending a news update on myself to 5 girls, all the same message, but in my case with different salutation for each girl. It is just a reminder that although we can be friendly to each other and nice, we aren't real lovers just because we had paid sex together.
-zing
Been to St Maarten only twice: '86 for seven months and "05 Winter for month and a half. My favorite from back then was called Chapotine. The price was $25, less off season and less for locals. Seamans (then and now locally known as "Japonee Club" was $30. You could get a TLN for $50 plus the bar fee (la salida). This is the main difference in the current prices; the in house increase surprisingly minimal.
The service now is much better. Back then it was often mechanical and quick, a hop on and get it over with kind of thing. There were good times also of course. There were no condoms then! None, non-existent! Amazing. The girls are better looking now too. The English is about the same.
I liked the atmosphere in the places; it was a new culture: fun and romantic. I loved the music and still do, but it was much better then and not as loud. A big song then and one that became a big favorite was "Querida" by Juan Gabriel.
[QUOTE=Zing23]One of them ended her message: "ya olvidaste nuestros dias de sexo entre tu y yo , los deliciosos masajes y cuando me hacias el amor , yo no lo he olvidado te amo."
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Hey, I received the same Email ! :D
Ziptop,
Great contribution, comparying the actual scene with the one from 20 years ago. Regarding the condoms, I'm not surprised, as it was not the norm in those days anywhere (well 86 maybe, but definitely not before 81). I remember my first mongering experience when I was 16 or 17, it was also without condom. Regarding pricing, indeed TLN is now way too high, nearly 10 times the ST price compared to Surinam or DR for 100$ which is 3 times the local ST price. Hey, I might pop 3 times, but not 10 times in one night! :D More seriously, I consider this only with a chica that might be worth it.
January4 continued
I had met zing earlier and he said that routard would be at Carolinas by 2pm so I waited with a chica sitting on my dick for 20 minutes at 2;00 I said another 5 minutes but junior spoke up in 3 minutes and I went in the back with the chica. Routard said I missed him by 3 minutes
Never saw Zing again or never met Pogo but I met up with Routard in the parking lot later. I apologized to the 8 girls that were hand picked by the owner for an ISG party in the VIP Room upstairs as there were only two of us. We went to Seaman’s
The rest of the night was well reported by Routard
I took Patricia #11 Seamans out with me for my TLN.
We started where we left off with DFK, a long orgasmic daty twice fantastic BBBJ and she asked for anal again. This time I passed and went for her dripping wet luscious pussy. My bed is rather low in my cabin so the girls can lie down on the bed with their knees on the carpeted floor and you get fantastic doggie.
Between the different exercised much kissing and normal sex we spent about 3 hours. After we showered I asked about sex in the morning and she said she never does sex before 12. That takes her off my TNL list but not off my seaman’s list.
I too like Routard felt like shit dropping Patricia off in the morning light seeing her walk down the side entrance of seaman’s, like a soldier slogging off to war. What an awful way to live. luxury in the evening on a fine yacht and in the morning fucking anyone with money in their hands and then having to sleep in the same bed with another girl who has had probably more than 10 guys having sex on it that day.
Only the schizophrenics would like that job. I am writing this days later with a fine woman on board and my heart started to ache for her over dinner tonight knowing that I will leave her and she has to go back to her shit when I leave.
Mel
Day 5
This morning I took Patricia back to seamans. It was hard bringing her back to Seamans in the harsh early morning light of day knowing that last night was just a short interlude in a very tough job. I made a mistake today and brought a friend over to meet patricia for a short stay in the early evening. I believe she had some feelings for me however small and refused to go to the room with him. I guess she felt like I was just “pimping her out”
I will go by tomorrow to apologize to her.
I had a short stay with a girl in Carolinas I cannot remember her name but it wasn’t memorable Picked up Mi Amour at 7pm and went to Peg Legs Pub. Great bacon wrapped shrimp and split a nice rib eye steak with mi novia. Peg legs states they are the best steak house on the island. Next door to peg legs is a sex store with some great toys. I am not into toys but they have a vibrating butterfly for $35- that seems to drive most chicas nuts.
Back to the boat about 9Pm we started about 10:30 and after showing her around we had one of the most amazing sessions of my life butterfly, champagne now it is 4:30 she is sleeping and I and dead. I have her out till 2pm tomorrow so more to follow. In the am .Mel
The day started with a great BBBJ and mish. god do i love to be plugged into her and watch her sucking my nipples , seeing her fantastic chest and small waist under me. we had both gone for blood tests and are awaiting the results. if all is ok off comes the latex.
I dropped off mi novia for a change of clothes and then picked up a friend at the airport. We then (3) went to a friends Cabana at the orient beach resort. We had a great BBQ. Then off to the cock fights. It is a rather brutal sport but watching the people is a trip especially if you have money riding on the Birds. About 7pm we left the cock fights and picked up a friend of mi novia for my shipmate. We went to a friends house who has pasta every Sunday a great home made sauce. The girls really enjoyed the meal and view. You can see all of Phillipsburg, little and great bay and Saba without moving your head from this great mountain view. Then back to the boat. The girls finished 2 bottles of Champagne neither I or my friend drink.
They were totally blitzed by bedtime. I took it easy on mi amour and kept it to 2 hours and the off to bed. It sure is nice having clean sheets , your own bed and shower and hand held shower for a nice clean up.
I am a late sleeper on vacation as we are always up till at least 2 and often till 3:30.
So far I haven’t been disappointed with my wake up call. It is so wonderful to wake up with a warm wet mouth sucking your cock. GOOD MORNING MEL JR.
During my trip i went to 3 cock fights 2 on the french side one on the dutch side. all very hard to find if you do not know where you are going . You might feel a little bit intimidated as the fights are mostly for locals only.
but these are just a bunch of guys and very few chicas having fun.
I did not feel the slightest bit nervous being there. also coming in with a drop dead looking date got me a front row seat for free.
If you can hook up with a local it is fun to go to . the fights start about 3pm saturday and sunday and run until 9-11pm.
the last big fight i saw the last saturday night has a pool of $15,000- US.
mel
Have watched this thread for a couple of months and have to agree that Carolina's quality has gone up at the same time Seaman's has gone slightly downward. Btw, for all the BBBJ fans out there, I saw a certain tall, slender Bogata chica at Carolina's about 2 weeks ago with a big, honkin' herpes sore sitting astride her upper right lip. I believe I'll take my BJ's w/latex, Saran Wrap, Glad Sandwich Bags, or whatever, to avoid that sort of unfortunate contact.
[QUOTE=Mel365] we had both gone for blood tests and are awaiting the results. if all is ok off comes the latex.
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Great idea! But then again, I don't imagine ever doing 14 TLN like you do.
Routard,
it wound up to be 21 tln's
plus many days , plus a few side trips.
i will continue my log when i have time.
my problem is now i have two novias and i do not know how to engineer this one. as i am infatuated with both of them. one will be coming back from Colombia soon.
my problem so far has been paying the boat cleaners to get all the long hairs off of the boat. one novia has long blond hair , the other novia has long black hair , my wife has short red hair.
the true problems of a monger.
I have been to St M. several times and have enjoyed the visits to the clubs. I think they're great for the chica gazing and selection and the inexpensive, fun time back in the room with the chica.
The TLN deal is ridiculous though, unless you're very wealthy or enjoy blowing money.
Obviously these girls are on the island for one reason, the money. Of course they're just girls and they can and do fall in love / infatuation / lust, just like anyone else. A guy can easily cross from customer to friend / lover / novio if the chemestry is right.
The problem is that, because they're in St M. on business, and on contract with the club, they have to work and the TLN is very expensive. Obvious.
The TLN is great in Colombia itself. Ranges from free to much less than St. M.
Even if the chica is a pro, it's easy for her to get a night or a week or whatever off, to hang with a guy she likes.
To each his own, just my 2 pesitos worth. Paying for 1 or 2 TLNs with a chica in ST M could pay for a week or two of fun in Colombia.
With the 21 TLNs you could buy an apartment and a hot chica to clean it and love you :)
Good luck out there! :)
Yeah, the TLN deal is a bit odd. I think you should only do it with a chica that you for sure have good chemistry with. Definitly "try it" before you "buy it" for the night. And it does get quite expensive. At Seamans there is a $100 bar fine for a TLN plus the cost of the TLN from the girl. At Carolina's it's only $45. Most chicas at Carolinas would do a TLN for $200.
So, from Carolinas that's $245 for a TLN. That's roughly equivalent to 5 different sessions with any chica. But you have to look at it from the girls point of view. If you pick her up at 8:00 for a TLN, that's 7 hours of work she'll miss. So remember that's $200 for the chica, and that's only 4 tricks she has to turn in that 7 hours to get the same money. I don't know how easy it is for them to get 4 clients in a night, but you can see why they have to ask for the money.
The most I've ever had sex on a TLN was twice. Obvioulsy not worth the money in a business sense to myself, but I still enjoyed them none-the-less.
[QUOTE=Ricker]
To each his own, just my 2 pesitos worth. Paying for 1 or 2 TLNs with a chica in ST M could pay for a week or two of fun in Colombia.
With the 21 TLNs you could buy an apartment and a hot chica to clean it and love you
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Guess what? I have already booked my flight to Bogota! :)
How come nobody goes there? I think I know why. But I still like it although it is nowhere near as nice as it was in the old days. It's much more more built up and enclosed. The girls aren't as good looking but there are a few good looking ones and how many do you need? I think the actual official name is Sunset. It must be an oven in there in the summer though.
Wow, is it really so cheap in Bogota? How safe is it for Americans? This is getting interesting. :)
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Hi Sxmperson101,
Yes, it is interesting, but why did you post this here in the thread for St. Maarten in stead of the section for Bogota?
Thanks,
Jackson[/blue]
Planning my first trip in March. Wonder how strict DWI enforcement there leaving the brothels. Not that I ever get 'sh*t faced', but I'ts good to know ahead of time how many patrol cars are checking drivers out. Also, if you want to smoke a little weed is it a big problem here. I know it is definitely illegal, but I've made many trips to Curacao and every thing there is very low key. You hardly ever run into the police there.
Thanks
Today I was able to get a day in St Maarten after a two week lack of chicas, so I took it.
Carolinas at 11am.
Lots of beautiful girls at check in. Best line up in a long time. My previous session Kenney was out on a "multa" (a TLN plus TLD I presume - is that you Mel?), so I just browsed among the chicas in the bar for a while before making a decision.
Then little Tatiana, Kenney's roommate, came up and asked if I remembered Beatriz - see reports in Oct/Nov time frame of my duo Beatriz and Luna. Of course I remembered her - a highlight of my mongering career. Turns out Tatiana is best friends with Beatriz and Beatriz told her all about me by email! i asked her to give beatriz my email address.
So off we go to the room for a massage and some amor. Not the best performance in the world, but perhaps she was inhibited a bit by being Kenney's roommate and Beatriz's best friend. In any case, I just used a positive attitude of lust and had a great time anyway.
After that I chatted to girls in the bar and bought them drinks, but nothing felt right for a second session. Talked to Natalia (of sxmperson drama) and tall Tatiana, Carolina, and 3 Paulas, and Monica, and 2 other girls. Carolina of Carolina is still the brighest star in the bar - when she smiles at you her eyes sparkle and her face lights up completely, as if you are her best friend in the world! she should be in acting.
At 1pm I drove up to Defiance - only a few girls out, no one I felt like talking to. Saw Claudia from a distance - still a hot number.
Arrived at Seamans about 130pm. Saw my previous amiga from last year Juliana sitting on a sailor's lap, went to the bar, got a water and talked to a couple of girls.
One of the things I have been wrestling with is how to have a regular girl at the club, and still do other girls. Last fall I had a series of regular girls and duos at Seamans, which all seemed to accept that and it went fine. Now I have an exclusive amiga from last year (juliana) back in the bar, but I also want to do other girls at Seamans.
I decided on a strategy before going to Seamans: do a session with Juliana, be sweet and nice, treat her as a princess, show respect, always do her first, then go back to the bar, select another girl who is tense and needs a massage, then asked Juliana if it is okay to take the other girl back for a massage to relieve her stress! This appeals to my sense of humor, because the girls are always asking you if you want to go back for a "massage" (aka sex).
This strategy worked great - Juliana got me first, so she was top dog. Because I asked her for permission with the second girl, in front of the other girls, she got even more stature in the bar. And she could'nt very well say no, the other girl was looking at $40 income from me right now. Note: I could have just blown Juliana away, but the other girls would know about that and trust me less after that. especially since juliana and i have an 8 week history from last year.
after i got back from de-stressing Kelly (who is leaving in a day or 2), 3 other girls told me they needed massages also. I sat at the end of the bar with Juliana and Alexandra and Gloria, buying some drinks and talking, and dancing, and continuing to treat Juliana as a princess, but flirting with the other girls too. No problem so far.
the lady behind the bar is from d.r., so i gave her cds by Juan Luis Guerra and
Raulin Rodriguez of d.r. - this got me some major points and she put the cds in the sound system and improved the music in the bar tremendously.
Danced with Gloria from Bogota (2 weeks at Seamans so far), who is in my opinion the best looking girl they have had at Seamans in a long time. Dirty blond hair, straight, perfect body, beautiful face, not too short, sits back in a chair, does not go after the men. She mentioned to me that she had not been making much money (jan is a bit of a lull in the tourist season between xmas and feb), but I think she just intimidates the guys. No idea how she is in the room, but she danced bachata with me very nicely and I will find out next time (another 2 weeks from now). I suggest that everyone give her a try - it seems ridiculous that a beauty like this is sitting by herself all day.
Note: the daytime lineup of girls at seamans is now better than at carolina, where not all the girls stay in the bar after the 11am sign in. I did see all the girls at sign in time at carolina and they are nice, but i think the seamans girls are a bit more to my liking overall at this moment (tastes vary of course).
-zing
Zing i am back in the USA so it must be another monger.
see ya in Mid Feb.
Mel
Zingm,
do i remember the correct chica as carolina.
curly hair, dark mole on her right side near her mouth, slight belly?
mel
[QUOTE=Mel365]Zingm,
do i remember the correct chica as carolina.
curly hair, dark mole on her right side near her mouth, slight belly?
mel[/QUOTE]
corection: yes, you have carolina of carolina perfectly. young, pretty, very curly hair, mole.
i originally thought you meant Kenney, who is the one that told me you were loco!
-zing
Day 7
Today we took the girls out for a sail Mi Novia and her friend.
We refer to the forward cabin as the Stabin Cabin for obvious reasons.
5 girls and 5 guys. My novia played hostess and I sailed the boat while we were making waves in calm water. I believe the forward cabin got more use than a room at Carolinas on a busy day. It was a nonstop day of sex. If I had, video taped it I could say who did what with whom but it just got too confusing to keep track as to who was with whom.
My novia and I stayed out of the action but the other six had one hell of a time. At one point when we anchored off the Simpson bay bridge, one of the Columbianas blew three of the guys at once.
When the bridge opens at 5:30 to allow the boats back into the lagoon many people gather at the Simpson bay yacht club to watch the boats coming in.
I had all the girls up along my rear mast topless as we passed through the bridge. What a trip!!
The single guys were hooting and hollering. The funny thing was to watch the married men next to their wives , dying to turn their heads and watch the entire show as we went by , but knowing full well that if they turned their head their wives would kill them.
Mi amour and I said goodbye to our guests at the marina and sent out for dinner.
She showed me an interesting trick tonight. If you apply an ice pack (we have the flexible ones in the freezer for injuries) to breasts with silicone implants the silicone gets freezing cold. Due to the fact that the silicone has no blood circulation they stay cold for a very long time. What a neat erotic feeling.
With respect to the cost of a Tnl. It is not the number of pops that counts but the time doing it. We usually spend at least 3 hours making love and some times as much as 4 1/2 hours. On a per pop basis it does not figure but on an hourly basis, it is a bargain.
There is also the morning wake up call.
Mel
zing,
Coming from her i take it as a compliment.
Carolina can make anyone LOCO.
mel
Is Carolina of Carolina still on the island? Wow! She is absolutely the best fuck anywhere. Can anyone say when she plans to leave? I will be there in March. Memorable GFE/assfuck.
Alan
I guess Carolina should be leaving sometime in March.
Drop me a pm when you are planning on arriving in sxm. maybe we can hook up this time.
Mel
Mel, Zing, and the rest,
I have found St Martin about 3 years ago and have spend all my time on the island at Carolina's, seamens and once in a while Casa Blanca, even defiance, I am still amazed on your 100% accurate reports, I have read after the times I spent there, and I am sure we have been in those clubs the same time with out a doubt, I was there last on Jan 2nd this year on unfortunately for me a 7 hour stop on the Norwegian Dawn cruise ship, I have stayed multiple times at the Holland House, Divi Little Bay, and many other places, I live in new york and its less than 4 hours by plane where I can leave my house at 6 am and be balls deep by 12, I have given up on Rio for a while after the last trip a 17 hour ordeal to get home and have tried over and over to convince my Rio buddies to go to St Martin, after all what are we doing but hot young beautiful Girls, granted its 40 for 20 but I don't need to spend the infalted prices to get to Rio & Stay in Rio and now from what I heard $150 and up for the night, hell we even have done some of the same girls you guys report on, exp Vannesa from Carolina Tall perfect body, yes been there, yes some even let me take photos but WILL NEVER POST THEM as I do respect them, allways looking foward to your daily reports.
Some fuckfest photos
More photos
Holy crap.
Brilliant work. Mayby I'll rethink about posting some photos, or at least wait the 3 months till the girls are gone from St Martin and back to DR or Columbia.
Hey Mel!
What kind of boat do you have and what size to be able to host an event like that?
Russ
Hey Mel!
What kind of boat do you have and what size to be able to host an event like that?
Russ
Day 8 & 9
My notes are getting a little fuzzy here.
I believe day 8 I dropped off mi Amour and stopped by Carolinas.
Visited with Emili (Carolinas) again. This was a great visit. I remembered she liked DATY with her legs closed and we had a great wet session including a little anal.
She again came two to my one.
Looks like no one has been paying attention to her delicious wet pussy.
Carolinas has a great new lineup
The next day we had the BBQ at my friends house. This was during the girls time off.
I left mi amour at her place and had a great time picking and choosing between 6 chicas from Defiance and la petite. The 2 girls from la petite were all cute Columbianas.
I believe Carolinas had thrown down the gauntlet and seamans, la petite, and defiance have accepted the challenge.
Having had an afternoon of sex I picked up mi Amour at 8 pm as I was tired and took a short nap before the next session. I believe her radar was working and thought I was fooling around in the afternoon. So she tried to assault me with a friendly weapon (her pussy). That night was the longest on record on and off until 5:30 am.
I wish my dick was like a worm that would grow back after such abuse. But then again, what am I complaining about.
Mel
Day 10
Dropped off mi amour after the usual morning workout. We have been getting up late each day and get out about 1pm after the morning gymnastics. The blood tests came back AOK yesterday so we had a great night and morning.
Dropped off mi amour on back street to do a little shopping and went to the airport to pick up another fellow monger.
We went straight to Carolinas from the airport with luggage still in the car so mi amour wouldn’t get wise to our afternoon adventure. I did little Vanessa nice but I couldn’t break the ice to get a little gfe. Nice worker and I believe she would improve with a little attention on future visits. However, I have too much on my plate right now for another chica. I forgot to ask about my friends date that afternoon.
I am having a wonderful time with Mi Novia as she refers to me. She even let me speak to her mother and daughter in Colombia a few nights ago. Back to back street and picked up mi amour.
We had a nice dinner at the Chinese restaurant next to Pineapple Pete’s, in Simpson Bay. They even had a decent Peking Duck which was a surprise for St Martin.
After dinner we had a fantastic time in bed, all my favorite positions without latex. It was like back in the early 70’s. Wow what a difference 1/64 of an inch of rubber makes.
When we got back to the boat, my friend had picked up a girl at the bar near the marina. She was sitting next to him and started complaining that her boyfriend was talking to another guy and was pissed. In any event she asked him to buy her a drink, having a great ego he said" I don’t buy drinks for women they buy me drinks". And, she did.
One thing lead to another and he banged this 6 foot broad all night like a screen door in a tornado, and in the shower in the morning. They left the boat before we got up. When we met in the afternoon, he asked if we had any visitors after he left. It seems that he ran into this girls FIANCEE at the head of the dock when they left the boat. He explained that she was drunk last night and he just offered her a cabin and nothing went on. HE BOUGHT IT.
More to follow,
Mel
Ok, so I'm trying to plan my first trip to SXM, and I've got all the club information down. Now I'm trying to find information on inexpensive accomodations. Is it possible to stay on the island in the month of March for under $100?
Any help is greatly appreciated.
You might try looking up the Holland House its in Phillipsburg about a 4 min ride to Seamens and Carolina, only thing there you cant really rent a car because there is nowhere to park it, but its a nice hotel, chica friendly, right in the heart of Phillipsburg on the boardwalk, but it is high season, so good luck.
You are in high season in March.
Also early march you have the Heineken Regatta.
I think you will have a tough time finding a room for less than 140 a night.
Mel
I had to run down to st martin for the day. I will leave in the morning.
There are a bunch of new chicas at Defiance. It would be worth the time to hang around Defiance to check out the lineup. I found a new Chica that is very interesting for my next visit. CHECK IT OUT.
Mel
[QUOTE=IT_Stallion]Ok, so I'm trying to plan my first trip to SXM, and I've got all the club information down. Now I'm trying to find information on inexpensive accomodations. Is it possible to stay on the island in the month of March for under $100?
Any help is greatly appreciated.[/QUOTE]
there are a number of modest hotels in marigot for under 100 euros per night. try golfe hotel
[url]http://www.caribbeantravelmag.com/hotel.jsp?hotel=M35223[/url]
HERE IS A LIST OF HOTELS WITH PHONES, EURO PRICES. TO call, add 011 590 590 to the phone number
[url]http://www.geographia.com/st-martin/smacc01.htm[/url]
[QUOTE=IT_Stallion]Ok, so I'm trying to plan my first trip to SXM, and I've got all the club information down. Now I'm trying to find information on inexpensive accomodations. Is it possible to stay on the island in the month of March for under $100?
Any help is greatly appreciated.[/QUOTE]Has anyone stayed there?
[url]http://www.a1tourism.com/netherlands-antilles/sint-maarten-defiance-haven.html[/url]
Is that the place adjacent to the Defiance Haven club? It din't look safe at night, may not be a good choice for a white gringo with N. American safety stereotypes.
Day 11.
Had a great morning with mi amour. Unfortunately we were interrupted about noon by some workers that needed to do some interior work on the boat, so I dropped mi amour off for some more clothes and dropped by Seamans to visit with Patricia. Room 11.
I have never run into a chica that really asks for anal right up front no extra charge. She seems to get off on it.
Nice shower after about 45 minutes to an hour.
Then mi amour back out for a day at the beach, She sure is a stunner at orient beach.
dinner, and all night sex.
It is so enjoyable to spend time with a lovely woman without having to watch the clock.
Mel.
having just arrived home and written up day 11 from my january trip-- it seems like by the time i get the 22 days written up and todays trip to sxm written up i will have my next trip to write up.looks like there is no rest for a busy monger.
mel
Check out the Traveltalkonline forum. The last I saw; guest houses were $50; you can look them up. A really nice place I keep hearing about and it's reasonable too, is Les Balcons in Oyster Pond which would put you close to where you want to be.
I have just a quick little story. I've had a decent number of really great sessions with a girl over at Seaman's club. The sex is always really good, and she's always sure to tell me thank you after she comes. In the past couple of sessions she's been really getting into it, and she's been saying some things to me that chivaly forbids me from repeating.
However, in the most recent sessions she got on top and remained on top, remained in control, and almost quite literally fucked the shit out of me! Afterwards we both passed out in her bed. I have no idea how long we slept for, but when we came out security guards and other people were all congratulating me. It was really quite weird!
Day 12
This diary is getting stressful trying to remember what I did with who and when from my notes
Today I left mi amour on board and went out for “errands”.
Spent an enjoyable hour with Emili room 12 at Carolinas.
She really likes Daty with her legs closed. It seems to really relax her. She is almost getting to be a GF. I think I will spend a TLN with her next time down. She is really loosening up and getting comfortable with me.
Very laid back and easy to have sex with. No pro treatment.
A definitely must do again .
Went back “home” to mi amour and spent a wonderful night with her.
She fulfills my every wish and then some . Tonight we went to the sex shop at her request looking for some HOT massage oil , we bought the medium stuff but it didn’t generate any heat where it counted. Another day in paradise,
Mel
I'll be arriving in St. Maarten tomorrow (Feb 6) around 6PM. I'll be staying until Saturday morning. Looking for someone that may want to hit Carolina's and/or Seamans (or any other place) with me. I'm staying at the Maho and don't really want to shell out the $$$$ to hire a driver all night. Anyone have a car or up for splitting the taxi bill to/from Maho area??
I've only been to Carolina's & Seamans. (Mostly a fan of Carolina's). But I'm up for hopping from place to place or just hanging at Carolina's. This will be my third time there. Let me know if anyone wants to hang out!
Also check out Gracie's Mansion Guest House in French Quarter; loacals live thereas well as tourists.
So I was bringing a girl back at Seamans, and she started to put what I thought was lube on the condom. But I looked at the tube, and it was Ketoconazole. I saw that and got up and left. It's usually used in females for yeast (Candida) infections (or else she may have prostate cancer, haha.) I don't know what kind of problems the guy can get from an abundance of yeast, but I wouldn't risk it. She may have been using it prophylactically, but that would be a weird thing to do, given it's a fungus. Just something to watch out for.
Some really awesome reports and discussions here lately!
Sorry I have been out of touch ....family matters took me from SXM a few days early and straight to the frozen wastelands in the far north...away from "safe" access to the computer and too far away from our beloved little island playmates.
But, I am on the road again and will try to report upcoming adventures as they happen.
pogo
i will be back in st martin to visit all my valentines on Feb 14. any heads up on any new girls?
i could use a change of diet for my afternoons.
Zing---where are you?
mel
it is also used for jock itch and athletes foot.
Ketoconazole is used to treat fungal infections. Ketoconazole is most often used to treat fungal infections that can spread to different parts of the body through the bloodstream such as yeast infections of the mouth, skin, urinary tract, and blood, and certain fungal infections that begin on the skin or in the lungs and can spread through the body. Ketoconazole is also used to treat fungal infections of the skin or nails that cannot be treated with other medications. Ketoconazole is in a class of antifungals called imidazoles. It works by slowing the growth of fungi that cause infection.
[QUOTE=Mel365]i will be back in st martin to visit all my valentines on Feb 14. any heads up on any new girls?
I could use a change of diet for my afternoons.
Zing---where are you?
Mel[/QUOTE]I haven't seen any of the new ones yet at Carolinas. I know at least a handful of girls left this past week, so they are bound to have some new faces.
Well, tonight I went out for a well deserved night of mongering.
First stop was Carolina's. I saw Vanessa there. 22 or 23, from Colombia. She was a roommate of Natalia, the girl I spent a lot of time with from there. She came over to say Hi, and I talked to her for a bit. I asked her to the back and she was happy to go (..) and so off we went. When we got in the room she was kinda akward at first b/c she thought I was still "Natalia's" even though she (Natalia) had left the country. We talked about it for a bit then got on with the session. After the talk she must have not cared any more! She was initiating all the DFK, and she layed me on the bed for a nice CBJ with all the trimmings then reverse cowboy-ed the shit out of me for a while, great sex, great everything. She's f-ing hot guys!
Then I went over to Seaman's to see if my regular was there. She wasn't! So I was at the bar and an "average" girl (Cindy) came over to talk to me and kept offering a massage. I've been pretty stressed and could use a massage, so I took her up on it. She gave a great massage and a nice BJ, then CFS. Not bad, but I def. would not repeat.
:)
was that tall vanessa in room #2?
very tall big false boobs light cocoa color
mel
[QUOTE=Mel365]was that tall vanessa in room #2?
Very tall big false boobs light cocoa color
Mel[/QUOTE]Hmm, no, that's not her. She's average height (same as most of the other girls), dark skinned, natural breasts, and has braces. She lives in the apartment at the end upstairs, past the VIP room (same room that Natalia lived in..) BTW, one afternoon when Natalia was still in town I got brought up to their room around 3:30 and we all (me, Natalia, Vanessa, and another girl) watched a movie and took a nap. Was pretty interesting!
sxmperson
thats short vanessa. i also had a nice time with her.
i will be in town starting wednesday afternoon.
please give me a call.
mel
Will do. I was thinking. Haha, we should get Carolina's to give us "punch cards".. After 10 visits, we get a free "no-multa" pass!
Monday afternoon, the bartender @ Carolina's said they were starting 11 new girls out that night. Haven't been by to see what they're like yet.
If you review my postings, you will find that I started p2p here in SXM about 18 months ago. I have also indulged in a few other countries, but they are all places where p2p is either legal or widely tolerated. When I queried members in the USA about opportunities there, they were discouraging. The main problem is that mongering is illegal, so there are police stings, bad people like pimps, etc. Having reviewed numerous postings about the USA, I decided on a strategy for my first p2p in the USA: avoid streetwalkers, try Asian Massage Parlors (AMPs) and try Escorts recommended on the Internet.
I have now completed that research, with 6 visits to AMPs and one escort. I thought you might like my perspective on p2p in USA, since I come at it with different expectations. I won't mention the 3 cities or 5 girls by name, since what they did with me was totally illegal in the USA!
Overall summary:
1. USA is much more expensive than St Maarten: average cost $185 vs $40.
2. You don't get to select your girl personally from a group as you do in SXM. Usually you get whoever is available at the AMP or the escort whose picture you selected from the internet.
3. All the girls I sampled were immigrants (Taiwan, Korea, China, Colombia). There were no really good looking young girls in the AMPs that I visited, but the escort who claimed to be from Colombia looked just like one of our nicer girls in SXM (implants, pretty, firm body, young).
4. All services offered in SXM were also offered in USA (CBJ, BBBJ, CFS, DATY, HJ), although no one provided GFE or DFK in my small sampling and nobody delivered all services in a single session.
5. If you can ignore the cost (which is difficult), the experience was enjoyable. And I was a beginner. I think with more practice and repeat visits, it might improve.
We know how SXM works: there are several clubs/brothels with latina girls on-site and rooms for visiting the girls. The girls live in their rooms and do business in them. Pricing is pretty standardized ($40 per session) and service quality varies quite a bit, but is generally good. The entire process is legal and the girls usually go home to D.R. or Colombia after 3 months.
Here is how an AMP works:
You look in the phone book under Massage Parlors and select those with Asian names or advertising Asian massage - it isn't too hard to figure out which are real spas and which are AMPs. They are mostly located in strip malls. Some offer Latina massage too. The women varied from old, pudgy and cute to young, fit and plainish.
You enter the waiting room and a bell goes off. One of the girls opens the door, asks you for an initial $40-$65 "massage fee" and invites you into a hallway. You are shown to a private massage room and asked to disrobe. At one place they then escorted you to a shower room where you get an enjoyable table shower. At the other 2 places, this was not offered, but may have been available.
You lie on your face and the girl gives you a massage, which varies from fair to excellent, but always leads to her lightly stroking your inner thighs, balls and bum and getting you aroused. You can feel her up while she does this, but she is clothed.
Then she asks you to turn over on your back and does a bit of light massage around your privates. then asks you if you need something more. At this point you negotiate a tip for whatever you want. Tips vary from $40 to $140 and cover HJ up to CFS. Some girls strip naked, some get half undressed, some let me undress them; it was not standard.
The massage tables are small and uncomfortable, which interfered with the enjoyment of CFS and the kind of encounters I am used to in SXM. However, I was pleasantly surprised at how nice the HJs were and they were the cheapest!
Here is how my visit to the Escort worked:
I selected a girl who was reviewed on usasexguide and who was listed on eros.com - however, the web site description/pictures were vague, and the review was vague as well - no one wants to say much when it is illegal.
I called the number given and talked to a woman who arranged a time for my appointment. She told me to drive to a certain area of town and call her 30 minutes before my time. I did and she gave me directions to their apartment. When I knocked on the door, the
woman answered and invited me in. She confirmed that I had a 2pm appt with "A" and asked me to sit down. Besides the "mamasan" who was mid-30s and very hot looking, there were 2 young latina girls in the apartment.
After she confirmed that I was a new client, she asked me some screening questions: are you a policeman, private detective, informer, etc. After I answered 'no' to all questions and showed her my id, she introduced me to "A", reminded me of the donation ($250) and asked me to put the money in a white envelope.
"A" claimed to be from Colombia and Miami, with family in Miami and Medellin (although she didn't know much about Medellin, or didn't feel like talking). By SXM standards, she was reserved, and spoke both English and Spanish instead of just Spanish. She was very pretty, short, long brown/reddish hair, and dressed in a bikini outfit. She had implants, but not outrageous ones.
The sex was enjoyable and covered, but no kissing or hugging. She kept her distance (how girls can manage that while actually having fairly nice sex with you is a mystery). None of my standard SXM techniques made any difference (she declined my offer of a massage before or after; she enjoyed my CD of romantic latin music, but did not warm up as a result of it). Perhaps on a second visit she would be more warm. The apartment was very nice and comfortable.
That's it. SXM is better, but the USA is not totally hopeless, if you have lots of money.
-zing
I have to agre that SXM is alot better than the USA. I would have to say by a big measure. You can get ripped off easily by the AMP's and escorts in the US. Since they know that having any type of sex is illegal, and that you can't tell LE if you have a complaint, and alot of escorts take a advantage of that. I don't think itis worth the risk of bad service in the US, but I am glad you had a good time Zing.!!
Chris H
[QUOTE=Maartenized]Monday afternoon, the bartender @ Carolina's said they were starting 11 new girls out that night. Haven't been by to see what they're like yet.[/QUOTE]They look nice! Some totally new looking girls there!
[QUOTE=Chris H]I have to agre that SXM is alot better than the USA. I would have to say by a big measure. You can get ripped off easily by the AMP's and escorts in the US. Since they know that having any type of sex is illegal, and that you can't tell LE if you have a complaint, and alot of escorts take a advantage of that. I don't think itis worth the risk of bad service in the US, but I am glad you had a good time Zing.!!
Chris H[/QUOTE]Without getting too far off topic, I have to agree that SXM mongering is great too. I've only mongered once or twice in the states, and the girls were bitchy, un-personable, and just not really enjoyable. Also very expensive!
When I move off of SXM, the one thing I'll miss is the mongering! Even though the girls are playing you here, it's enjoyable to go out and have a lot of fun, nice GFEs, and just hang out with some completely different people from completely different worlds than what I (we're) used to.
I've never mongered anywhere before being here, but how on earth are you gonna beat a deal where a chick shags you for less than the cost of dinner, wants you to leave when you're done, and doesn't speak enough english to bore you with stories about some damn pair of shoes she saw today?
In fact, I went by Carolina's around lunch, and in the chica's room I saw some flowers and gifts she had gotten and I thought "You know, I didn't do shit for Valentines' Day and she's still kneeling on the floor and rubbing her titties on my dick! What a country!"
[QUOTE=Maartenized]Monday afternoon, the bartender @ Carolina's said they were starting 11 new girls out that night. Haven't been by to see what they're like yet.[/QUOTE] This is great news. Haven't been able to visit the clubs since I returned from the USA, but I am thinking up as many excuses as I can for visiting SXM for the day!
-zing
[QUOTE=Maartenized]In fact, I went by Carolina's around lunch, and in the chica's room I saw some flowers and gifts she had gotten and I thought "You know, I didn't do shit for Valentines' Day and she's still kneeling on the floor and rubbing her titties on my dick! What a country!"[/QUOTE]
Hey! I offered the flowers and you fucked her!
one other thing, the SXM girls are just so friendly and fun to be with. They are even picture friendily, check out my pics from about a year and a half ago, these girls are just so happy to show off their beautiful features!!!
Chris H
[QUOTE=Routard]Hey! I offered the flowers and you fucked her![/QUOTE]Well they sure smelled good.
Hey
Just got added to the crew list for the regatta, will be flying in for a week before to help with boat prep, and then off to the races :)
Just wanted to say that I have enjoyed reading this thread, you lot seem like a good set of guys, without any drama and shitty posts that have cropped up in other area threads.
Looking forward to visiting these places, maybe our paths will cross.
Well, not too much to report today. I went to Carolina's today to meet Zing finally. Freakin great guy. It was nice to watch the old pro in action. He has mongering down to a fine art. Not long after I met him we both had our own chicas (me with my regular, Vanessa) and I quickly departed to her room.
When I came out I wanted to talk with him some more, but I felt like my chica was wanting me to leave so she could go get some more business without me seeing, I don't know. So after that I went out to Seaman's to see my regular there. Things have been weird with her because she was angry I went with another girl at "her" club.
I talked to her for a bit and then went back to Carolina's to see if I could find Zing again. I tried describing him to one of the chicas there and asking if he was there, but all she would say is "I want to suck your dick. " Wow, thanks for the help! :.)
I don't know about you guys, but I don't like the chicas that are that up-front about things. I don't really like when they walk up and immediatly grab my cock and ask immediately if I want "fucky fucky. " I'd rather I approach them!
There's a lot of new girls at Carolina's. Some are pretty dang cute! There's one with an absolute dynamite body that I want to experience, but I have to wait till Thursday (when Vanessa goes back to Colombia) to avoid all trouble.
Anyway. I've heard there are good looking new girls at Defiance.- anyone seen them yet?
[QUOTE=Chris H]I have to agree that SXM is alot better than the USA. I would have to say by a big measure. You can get ripped off easily by the AMP's and escorts in the US. Since they know that having any type of sex is illegal, and that you can't tell LE if you have a complaint, and alot of escorts take a advantage of that. I don't think itis worth the risk of bad service in the US, but I am glad you had a good time Zing!![/QUOTE]
ok, ok. sxm is way, way, way better than the usa!
Five hours at 3 clubs in St Maarten, took 4 girls, and money was never mentioned once. I just pay what I think is fair. I usually put the money on their dresser, but the girl at defiance didn't have a dresser, so I put the money in her shoe - she thought I forgot to pay, was about to ask for money, then looked down to put on her shoes and broke up laughing. SXM has a lot of friendly, natural girls.
Seamans Club:
I started at seamans at 1130am, with a favorita from 2006, Juliana in rm 15. While in the states, I bought some inexpensive items as potential chica gifts, including $39 mp3 players from kmart which I loaded with 1GB of music (about 15 solid cds). Saw Juliana as soon as I entered, sitting by the door with another guy and some other girls. Gave her a kiss and moved to the bar, she dumped the guy and followed. Bought an agua fria for me and a lady drink for her, then focused all my attention on her.
Recently I have realized that much of the chemistry in the sessions comes from my own attitude, which then affects the girls reactions and attitude. And since it is all a fantasy, I decided to have as sexy a fantasy as possible: I missed Juliana, the USA massage parlor girls and the reserved escort were but pale imitations of what I have in sxm: Young, smooth skin, long dark hair, dark eyes that can suck you in, thin body (factual aside: she is not as fit as when she arrived in sxm, but eating rice and peas every day and drinking alcohol all night will start to put a little belly on anyone), small natural breasts, patiently waiting for me to return from my trip so that she can shower all her love on me!
Went to the room and had one of my best sessions ever with Juliana. Kisses, bbbj, daty, cfs. I just ate her up and adored her. I was going to hold back and save my leche for the next girl, but I couldn't resist. (Factual aside: her fk was light, and she faked a bit of her response to daty and cfs, but her bbbj was longer and better than usual).
How To Deal With Chica "Jealousy"?
Juliana now rooms with Gloria, a beautiful dirty blonde that I met with Juliana last month and have lusted after ever since. As all of you will learn if you stay in st maarten more than 2 days, if you repeat with a girl, she will assume that she is your "girlfriend". And the more you repeat, the more angry she will be if you go with another girl. This is not love and jealousy, it is pride, respect, ownership, and status in the brothel. If you come to the bar and you take another girl, because "your" girl is gone, she will know about it and be angry. This makes no rational sense - she goes with lots of guys! But it is a fact. And your 150% GFE will turn into a cold fish. And it lowers your overall reputation in the club with all the girls.
Of course you can always rotate through a number of girls and never repeat with the same one. That is a safe approach that I have used and it works (as long as you remember who you went with last time and be sure to nicely say later - "mas tardes" - the next time).
However, I like having a regular. I like seeing what happens over time. I like the guaranteed GFE. I now have a new strategy for me to have both the regular girl, plus sample new girls at the same club. It is very simple: I ask the girlfriend for permission to take the other girl! Of course I do this while publicly continuing to pay the most attention to my regular amiga. And I use a euphemism ("Gloria is very stressed and tense; she needs a massage. Is it okay if I give her a massage?"). The issue is pride and respect, not love and money.
My new strategy worked like a charm. Juliana said no problem. And Gloria did badly need a massage, so I gave her one. It was very professional, but of course we were both naked. And after relaxing her from neck to feet, I stradled her butt and did a finishing, more gentle massage to her back and neck and temples. At which point my dick had recovered from Juliana and started to rub itself gently in her butt cheeks, which then moved themselves up and down my dick. Honest, we had nothing to do with it!
From the back, Gloria had a body to match her beautiful face. Long firm legs, smooth skin, just enough butt to be interesting, but not too much. She reached her hand around to her butt and started stroking me harder.
I turned her over and stared deep into her eyes. I was really into romantic attitude on this day. I fantasized about taking this relaxed beauty and making her excited and stressed again! (Factual aside: from the front, Gloria has a young girl's body and hips, with small breasts which are pushed up by a special bra in the bar. around her waist is a little belly - not flat and fit - typical latina problem.)
Although we were officially in the room only for a massage and 25 minutes had already passed, we appeared to be moving forward to sex as well. I gently massaged her front, but not the breasts or pussy. Then massaged her temples and kissed her around the neck and face and lips. At this point she started to go into her standard room routine, reaching for the condom, and starting a cbj. Sometimes I ask for bbbj at this point, but today I didn't. Instead I encouraged her to lick by balls. Then pulled her up for some kissing and caresses. At which point I went down on her. I told her the massage of her back was duro (firm), but this massage would need to be suave (soft). (Factual aside: I figure that working girls get way too much pounding and grabbing and rubbing of the pussy and breasts, so you need to be even more gentle in that area than you do with regular girls. I am talking about super gentle.) I started by just lightly licking with the tip of my tongue on either side of the pussy, then gently up and down the inside of the outer lips, and finally a light lick of the clit. Slowly. Softly. Nothing strong and lustful that demands that she pretend to be turned on.
I feel her involuntarily start to slightly move her hips and to press into my tongue, so I put my upper lip firmly on her clit, brushing from side to side, while I continue the very soft licking with my tongue. After that, it was not quite so gentle! (Factual aside: this doesn't work on all chicas - many can turn off their responses completely. in that case, there is no point in prolonging the process, nor in abrubtly ending it in disgust - let her pretend to be turned on for 10 seconds, then move on). Gloria got very turned on - whether she orgasmed several times, or not at all, she enjoyed it and we continued for a long time.
She knelt between my legs and resumed the cbj, but better this time. She mounted me in cowgirl and we had some nice sex. Switched to missionary. I stopped to take a breath and she asked why no leche for her. I told her the condoms are a problem and that I usually use my own durex avantis. She said let's try again. So I switched to my condom and she got me hard again with a standing cbj. The sex felt even better with the avanti, but i wasn't going to climax again so soon after juliana unless we went bareback.
We ended the 60 minute session affectionately - I dropped $80 on the dresser and walked her back to the bar. I immediately went back to Juliana and gave her a hug and a kiss. Gloria came over too, since they are roommates. But Gloria came up with an excuse to leave for lunch with just a kiss on my cheek. Left the two of us alone. Got to show respect.
Here is the odd ending to this experiment. In the past, Juliana has been a bit reticant about talking about her personal life. Didn't volunteer information or get involved in long conversations with me as some girls do. Now that she had sent me off to massage her roommate, something had changed. She was less reserved, told me about the tuition cost for private schools, about football school for her children on the weekends, etc. Perhaps she was always worried that I would dump her, so she couldn't totally relax. Now I had done the natural male thing (wandering to another woman), but without disrespecting her. We had another drink and a long chat. Then I said goodbye and headed for Carolina Bar.
P.S. The lineup at Seamans is new and improved. Very nice looking girls everywhere. How could I have thought that my pitiful experience in the USA was even close?
Carolina
I met up with sxmperson at the bar, having to fend off 5 chicas in the 10 minutes before he showed up. We had a great chat about girls and st maarten and life. My favorite Kenney (rm 14, aka Shakira in the bar) finally found me and rescued me from another chica. However, as with the aborted ISG meeting at Carolina a while back, it is hard for us men to concentrate on each other when there are cute girls around.
Kenney leaves for home on feb 28, and it was too noisy in the bar to talk, so we went back to her room. Her roommate little Tatiana has already left, so she is alone in the room (nice, no time deadline).
Kenney also got an mp3 player from me, and was even more lovable than in the past. Her room was full of valentine gifts (big stuffed animals, lots of roses, etc.). In Juliana and Gloria's room the only gift was a small one from the boss of Seamans! although kenney is not a classic beauty, she is really affectionate, a true GFE. Long curly, dark hair, diamond in the side of her nose. I am not surprised that many guys want to be her valentine.
We started with me giving her a massage, in fact, she handed me the massage oil and stretched out on her belly. (vanessa told sxmperson that I would be in the room with kenney a long time, since I always give her a massage - these girls know everything!) Kenney wasn't really tight, compared to Gloria, so I spread my attention over her entire body, trying to get every spot to feel good.
Some nice kissing, then bbbj - longer and more loving than ever before. then she slipped on my avanti condom and mounted in cowgirl. in previous encounters, I would have done daty, but today we just moved from massage to kissing to bj to fs and skipped that phase. So whatever sexual stimulation she had came from the massage and the kisses and rubbing her pussy on my calf while she gave me a bj.
What happened next with Kenney has never happened with a chica before. After Kenney mounted me, she basically fucked me ferociously until she had what appeared to be a major orgasm, then collapsed on my chest. no concern for me or my feelings at all! (factual aside: she could have been faking, but later i was fingering her pussy and it was still completely engorged and wet. besides which she didn't do any of the standard fake orgasm things that chicas do.)
We continued with sex and fun for another 45 minutes (total about 90 minutes), after which we returned to the bar for a cold bottle of water and to get her email address. The bar was empty of girls, as it was now their break time (330pm to 8pm). Kenney went outside to pick up her dinner delivery from the colombian guy who provides home cooking to the girls, and I gathered my stuff and gave her a kiss on the way out.
p.s. the line up at Carolina is new and better looking than ever. once again better than seamans, but only by a bit. try both.
Defiance
I still have some time 80 minutes left, so decide to check the girls at Defiance bar. This place is located at the top of the hill on the road that runs past seamans club. as you reach the summit, you will see a car wash on the left. slow down. you will come to be big arched entryway on the right, turn in. there is a nice snack bar on the left (i ordered a chicken sandwich - el sandwiche pollo, por favor) and defiance is the bar on the right. there is no sign. it is quiet in the afternoons, but there are plenty of girls around. be patient. you can even go back in the rooms and ask around. and there is no time limit or bar fee. and no air conditioning, so winter is better than summer!
I shook hands the bartender, ordered a coke, and had a short chat. she remembered me because I gave her a music cd last year. so i gave her another cd of salsa music. by the way, they play better music in this bar during the day time than in the other 2 bars.
I checked out the talent as I walked in and around the bar and there are some nice looking colombian girls at defiance now. not quite up to carolinas, but perhaps it is just that the carolina bar is dark and defiance is bright during the daytime, and the girls at defiance are in their casual afternoon clothing, while the carolina girls dress sexy for the afternoon. there are other advantages to this bar: there are almost no customers in the day time! so you get a lot of looks from the girls. in the past the lineup has been mainly dominicanas, but now it appears to be mainly colombianas.
an attractive black girl caught my eye across the bar and came up to greet me. I returned the greeting and gave her a hug. She was fit, with a large rack (implants). She was from Cali, Colombia. What I liked about her was that she had her hair in pig tails!!
after some chit chat and a drink, i thought my sandwich would be ready, so I took her over to the snack bar and got my sandwich. by now I had decided that I would sample this dark honey, so I only took a couple of bites of food and fed her a couple of fries. Then off to the room, passing a beautiful slim light-colored girl at the bar that I will try to meet next time (when? once a day would not be often enough, and once a week or so is painful!)
In the room (#211), I continued my fantastic fantasies: this dark beauty has only been in st maarten for 5 days and I shall be her first beautiful experience! Another massage, another daty (factual aside: the giant implants are a bit of a turn off for me. at the start I showed her that I had my own condon and she held it in her hand the whole time, waiting to slip it on at the first opportunity.) when we finally shifted to bj, she pulled out the condom and I asked her nicely, "sin condon, por favor, mi amor. mi gusto mucho." she proceeded to a bbbj, which she was a little nervous about, but made up for it with the best ball licking that i have had in a long time. world class.
we spent about 45 minutes and i left her the standard $40 (in her shoe) and my sandwich. I returned to the bar and sat down to chat with 3 cute girls, all with braces! they immediately proposed 3 girls for 1 guy - business was very slow. I laughed and started to talk to them. my dark girl returned to the bar, waved and disappeared. what is cute is that as soon as i exchanged 3 sentences in a row with the girl closest to me, the other two disappeared. she was from baranquilla, very simpatico eyes, pretty face, another enhanced chest. but I only have 15 minutes left. i spent them talking to her and looking deep into her eyes. finally, gave her a cd by andrea bocelli (very romantic) and said adios.
It is SO GOOD TO BE BACK IN SXM!
-zing
p.s. some of the experiences in this report require a little bit of spanish, but not that much.
Haha! Zing is back in SXM! Great report, we feel how much you have missed it! Will be back soon too. Unlike you, I was in FKKland and not USA, but I can't wait to see my chicas again too.
February 15-23.
I arrived Feb 15 a day late due to the ice storm in N.Y.
I went directly to meet with mi amour.
Things are getting serious, as I did not monger for a minute.
She is beautiful to my eyes. With a fantastic enhanced chest, slim waist and beautiful ass legs. I love to walk through bars and restaurants with her as all heads turn when she walks by. She is 36 years old. Skin as soft as butter. When we kiss, my mind is in heaven as she says hers is also. To look down on this magnificent woman in bed with fresh clean sheets , no surrounding noise, and no time limit is truly a gift from god.
We met at the entrance to her place and kissed for at least 5 minutes in public. I believe this is not usually done as the women try to act “professional” if front of her friends.
We are truly Bf and Gf. We never discussed money and she just packed her bags and left with me. We then spent the next 8 days and nights together. There is nothing that I desired that I did not receive. When our blood tests came back negative of came the latex and I was in heaven. For some reason we always met someone or other on island for dinner and never got back to the boat before 10:30 pm. Many nights we made love until 2:30-3 am and on one night until 5 am. She truly likes making love with me and I feel sooo good when she puts her hands on my ass and pulls me into her more deeply than I would normally be. In the morning she waits for me to awake to “attack me again”The tenderness and love that we have in bed is indescribable. We would awake very late and do errands or go shopping. She is quite different than any other chica that I have met as most girls want everything they can get their hands on. Mi amour on the other hand, is a pleasure to buy gifts for as she is truly grateful for any gift.
And requests nothing.
I had some issues at home so I had to leave today. We were both in tears and we really have something going on that is beyond sex or money. Today before I left I reviewed the money , some which I had wired to her father earlier, as I wanted to make sure she understood how I arrived at what I had left her. She never counted the money, and said that the money was not important and whatever I left her was ok. I said I feel the same way but she needs the money for her family.
I have now been away from her for 10 hours and am counting the days until we are together again.
I apologize for not getting into the sexual details, but this one is very different. Suffice it to say that whatever my mind could conceive of was satisfied in the softest and most sensual way.
Mel
Oh God, that's beautiful. I appreciate you detailing the innermost feelings toward your truest love on the St Maarten board. Sounds like the real thing.
[QUOTE=Mel365]February 15-23.
I arrived Feb 15 a day late due to the ice storm in N.Y.
I went directly to meet with mi amour.
Things are getting serious, as I did not monger for a minute.[/QUOTE]
I wondered why I hadn't heard from you during your most recent visit. Now I know. Good luck.
-zing
Mel ... sounds nice, tu AMOR. Enjoy!
Amor is correct unless you throw the "u" in there for fun (amour) :)
Well, tonight I went out really craving a BBBJ. I actually prefer a full BBBJ w/ CIM instead of CFS. So tonight I go out to Carolinas. A girl came up to me, named Laura, from Colombia. Not the usual kind of girl I would go with, but she was pleasant and I asked her back. So off we go.
We get in her room, and we disrobe. She lays me on the bed and starts off on my nipples, and works her way down to my penis. She's kissing all around it, and at this point I'm REALLY craving the BBBJ, and sure enough she starts kissing on my shaft and licking my shaft and balls. So I kinda reach down and hold it up a bit so she takes it all in her mouth and starts giving a really nice and enjoyable BBBJ. She kept going and going. I never suggested she move to sex. This lasted a decent while and when I felt like I was getting ready to come, I told her, but she kept going and let me CIM. Fine with me! She didn' care at all, and was really nice about everything.
I will def. Repeat!
sxmperson----what room number?
I'm not sure what her room number is. Her room was ocupado so we had to go to another girls room. She's relatively short, small, augmented breasts (I think... I didn't pay much attention), she's cute, and has multiple colors in her hair. She looks kinda older (she said she is 29-30). She's been around for two months. Name is Laura (lah-oo-rah). I hope that helps.
Oh, and refreshingliny she speaks a bit of english.
sxmperson-that sounds like laura room 15. she should be leaving shortly.
brown, magenta,and blonde hair.
good choice.
mel
I arranged for Kenney/Shakira (Carolina rm 14, leaves this Wed) to be my first all-night girl in St Maarten (Todos La Noches=TLN). Kenney is a girl that i have visited several times since Dec, always with very sexy sessions (see last report for example). I paid the bar fine of $45 and picked her up at 4pm (when the afternoon is over and the girl's free time starts).
We went first to the beach - L'Orient beach on the french side at her request, then La Salsa bar at her request as well (this is located at the south end of the beach, just before the naturist hotel, about 4 bars down from Kon Tiki, next door to a jet ski rental place, with a Gauvaberry sign on the beach side because it doesn't say La Salsa on the sign). She and the other girls like this place because everyone speaks Spanish and they play Latina music.
We had a couple of beers, talked to a few people, talked to each other, relaxed, then went for a swim together. This was a lot of fun - i haven't taken a chica to the beach for a swim in over a year. Then Kenney asked if we could ride a jet ski. She had never done it before, and neither had I!! For $40, we had 30 minutes together out on the sea on a jet ski. I steered and Kenney screamed encouragement. It was great fun. She reach around me and grabbed the handles and took over control of the throttle (but I was still steering, since she could not see around me). Highly recommended activity, if you have an enthusiastic chica.
Then we went to my hotel to cleanup for dinner out. Kenney called Beatriz in Colombia, one of my former amigas at Carolina, who just happens to be one of Kenney's best friends. I find it difficult to talk Spanish on the telephone, where I cannot see the person, but we had a nice chat and I did learn that she is headed for Curacai shortly. The hotel had a big bathroom and tub, which I filled and we had a long hot bath together. Kenney said she had missed having baths at Carolina, where there is only a shower and only cold water. I put on a CD of tranquil music that I had selected and we stretched out on the bed to snuggle and kiss. Then Kenney said, just 10 minutes please, and fell dead asleep!
The girls finish their "day" at 3 in the morning, or 4 if the bar is full of clients. She says she falls asleep as soon as she hits the pillow, but has to wake up before 10am in order to get ready for the 11am opening of the bar. During their free time from 4 to 8pm, many girls grab a nap for a couple of hours. But I had taken Kenney to the beach instead, then put her in a hot bath.
After 20 minutes, I couldn't wake her up. So I called the restaurant and negotiated a delay. After waiting as long as I could, I started giving her a massage with some body lotion from the hotel. This got her attention and woke Kenney up. She dressed for dinner in "designer" jeans, a sexy top, and high-heel sandals. Not that different from many tourists, but very sexy on a young latina with a nice rack.
I had selected an elegant french restaurant, even though I knew it might make her a bit uncomfortable. She was the only latina in the restaurant, the only good looking woman in her 20s, and the only one with darkish skin, staff included. The menu was only in french and english, and typically obscure french/caribbean. She said she only wanted a small meal, so I ordered her a bowl of green pea cream soup with shrimps, plus an appetizer of lobster raviola. Both were delicious, as was my food and the St Estephe wine. Kenney and I continued our good talks, she told me about the 1 month vacation that she spent in Weisbaden Germany and the German words she learned (her youngest son is named Joergen, I wonder why?) Kenney handled the restaurant fine, although she noticed that she was unique. I think the other tables noticed her and were jealous or disapproving, but no one said anything out of line.
We returned to the hotel which was nearby and continued our chats on the bed. We are becoming better friends, but what about sex? I am full of food and wine, not the best condition for sex. Kenney feels that she needs to take care of me, so she initiates a blowjob and some intercourse (covered). But it was not nearly as sexy as the 60 minute sessions I orchestrated in her room at Carolina!
Instead of going out to dance/club, we put Pirates of the Caribbean II on the laptop with the Spanish soundtrack and the english subtitles. I was really getting in Captain Jacks adventures with the natives who were going to cook him, when I noticed that Kenney had fallen back asleep. So I drifted off to sleep also.
We got up about 730am, ate the fruit plate that the hotel had left the night before, talked some more. Listened to music, kissed and hugged, then had sex again around 830. it was nice, but nothing like the exciting sex at Carolinas. Kenney is really enjoying the quiet location of the hotel, the breakfast on the veranda, the attention, and especially the sleep/relaxation.
At 1030 I took her back to Carolina and said goodbye, as she leaves on Wed for Colombia.
All in all, I think I made a great friend, and I can afford the expense, but I would have had more fun spending the money on a marathan sex day in St Maarten.
-zing
[QUOTE=Zing23]All in all, I think I made a great friend, and I can afford the expense, but I would have had more fun spending the money on a marathan sex day in St Maarten.
-zing[/QUOTE]Congratulations on your first TLN :)
I usually feel the same way at the end of them too. The idea of it seems really great, but once it's happening, it's never as great as it seemed like it would have been. At least you can afford the TLNs! I've been living off of canned foods for a while now due to the $$ I blew last month! haha (but damn it was worth it!)
Why do you think the sex was less exciting during the TLN than during a session at Carolina's?
ZING,
I have found a number of chicas great in the house but find a TLN a good excuse for an easy night off and an early bed time. it is a true provider that makes the night a thing of wonderment. next time, i would go with a chica that wasn't leaving so soon and make it clear what what is expected of the evening. i believe if kenny were to go out a few more times (and not so elaborately) you would have a great bed partner. i was surprised at her actions as she seems to have some chemistry with you.
mel
Tonight my heart hurts,
I spoke to mi amor in SXM this evening. She does not know how to use the voicemail so even though I connected to her phone many times I was only able to speak to her once today.
After 8 days with me, I know it was hard for her to go back to the bullshit of her work.
It really breaks my heart that she has to work, but that is life and unfortunately, I can do nothing about it. She was literally crying into the phone as to how much she misses me and I feel her pain as I too wish I were with her and not just for sex. I know she was sincere and I feel like a heel leaving her to her shit.
Then the monger in me pops up. My other problem is in 12 days I am having my other amor flown in from Bogotá.
This will require much engineering to keep them apart.
I have trouble keeping the E-mails and names separate. This is why all working girls call their dates honey, or mi amor etc and never use a first name.
Tonight I feel like a slob taking these girls away from their routine which puts them into the robot mode and treating them like the women they are, and then back to their real world. My heart is heavy.
Mel
[QUOTE=Sxmperson101]Why do you think the sex was less exciting during the TLN than during a session at Carolina's?[/QUOTE]I thought about that while I was having 4 sessions at Seamans after the TLN (report coming). Here are my thoughts:
1) the girls are always behind on their sleep and energy.
2) in the excitement of the moment at the beach I had 2 beers and then 2 glasses at wine at dinner. normally I don't drink any alcohol when I am mongering. by the time we were naked on the bed, I just wasn't up to my regular performance standards.
3) being a heartless mongerer, after I set up the date with kenney I went to another club and had sex to completion with another girl! this used up most of my leche and screwed up my schedule for viagra - the label says one pill per 24 hours!
4) when I go to the club, I am primed and ready. i don't drink. there is limited time, so i am sure to take advantage of it. during the TLN, there is too much time and I think I am too old to have sex for 12 hours straight (perhaps not. however, after what happened in the german FKK clubs).
5) the fancy dinner in the french restaurant was another mistake from a mongering point of view - too full, too much wine. distracting. routard had suggested a simple snack at the beach - i think that would have been better.
also the hot bath was a bad idea.
So it was mostly my lack of experience and lack of self-control. I made it a perfect tranquil evening for her, instead of an exciting night of sex for me!
-zing
[QUOTE=Mel365]Tonight my heart hurts, ............
Tonight I feel like a slob taking these girls away from their routine which puts them into the robot mode and treating them like the women they are, and then back to their real world. My heart is heavy.
Mel[/QUOTE]
You have been lucky to find the dream....a girl that really cares for you and you really care for her. But the dream can also carry a heavy hurt as well.
These young women give their all to us and it takes a very hard toll on their bodies, their minds and their hearts. Working as a provider changes them forever.
All we can try to do while participating in the process is to hopefully give them a little relief from the crap. Even just being pleasant, clean and nice in a 20 minute session is often a change from the typical men who just want to use their bodies with no consideration for them as humans.
Our little group of mongers on this board are, in general, kind and respectful to the girls. Some, like Mel and Zing, take it to even a higher level. I think we tend to negotiate having a little humanity in the experience rather than negotiating to drive down the price.
Our dicks lead us into the houses, but if we can reach out with our hearts as well we can provide a little comfort to them at the same time.
pogo
After my TLN, I was at Seamans Club for the 11am opening and popped my vitamin V. already 5 guys in the bar, but no chicas. no music. no one selling drinks even. I took up a seat on a bench where I could watch the girls come in and enter their meal room. Most of them were in casual sleep clothes - very interesting to see them when they first wake up, before they dress and put on their makeup. A few look better, most look more ordinary!
1. Eventually my regular Juliana walked in - dressed in a black halter and hot pants, ready to go. After some snuggling and foreplay at the bar, a couple of drinks (water for me), we set off for her room (15). Last time we had a short, very enjoyable $40 session. But then I went with other girls (with Juliana's blessing), over an hour, more attention, more money. I decided to thank her by spending an hour with her this time and making it an oasis of pleasure, like a vacation from the brothel (except for the sex for me at the end!). Long massage for her, both sides. Little kisses all over her body, from fingers to toes. Head massage (to relieve headaches from the noise in the bar). I paid attention to her until she relaxed and forgot temporarily about her problems (bar multas, too little business, other chicas, ...) Finally, long slow DATY. Then very long BBBJ for me, nice sex.
But when it came time to climax, I held off. I had read on the Argentina forum about "sperm management" - holding off on coming so that you can do more girls. So I faked a quiet orgasm with mi amiga. Usually I come easily with the first girl, but with difficulty later, perhaps not at all. Today I decided to hold my "leche" (milk) until an incredible session, hopefully near the end of my day. So I tensed my muscles, moaned a bit, and collapsed on her. I don't know if she was fooled, but it fulfilled her pride requirement and I think it was at least as convincing as the many fake orgasms pulled on me by girls. I slipped the condom off myself and deposited it, wrapped in a wiping tissue, into the wastebasket, hiding the evidence (the girls always look- why?)
At the bar, Juliana asked if she could have a music CD (she told me which of my CDs she has at home in colombia that i gave her last year). She settled on a Valenato cd (this is colombian country music with accordian). She gave it to the bartender to play and the girls were very surprised (they NEVER play Valenato in the bars! I am looking around at the other girls, spotted a very pretty morena in a red cocktail dress. Juliana, who is my regular, asks me if I want to go with another girl. I ask "Is it okay with you?" She replies, "No problem. I am numero uno!"
2. So I tried to dance to the Valenato music with girl in red, Camila, but I didn't know the steps. Snuggled at the bar, but forgot to do my regular pre-session chat and neck massage. She was so hot looking, I forgot. In the room, an ordinary session with a hot girl (but with a saggy belly hidden under the cocktail dress. Nice, friendly, talented, but a bit abrupt, rushed, never relaxed, even during massage (just kept directing my fingers to the one spot in her lower back that really bothered her). About 20 minutes into this, I decided to fake orgasm again and save myself for the next girl! Will not repeat.
3. Back at the bar again, talked to beautiful gloria the blonde roommate of juliana. Bought her a drink, gave my seat to a young guy who I thought would make a good customer for her (no luck). Eyed all the girls in the bar again. Juliana is not present, must have hooked up with another client. It should have been easy - after her hour "vacation" with me she was smiling and laughing and looked like a lot of fun.
An attractive woman with braces came up to the bar on my left to talk to someone. I introduced myself and started talking. The bar was playing a CD of Juan Luis Guerra (romantic bacchata and merengue) that I had given them last month. We caught each other singing along to the music. Started talking about music, I mentioned that the cd being played was mine. we looked through my cds, talked in spanish. She said I was more colombian than caribbean and gringo. I pulled out my Joan Sebastian cd and asked the bartender to play it. Marta, my new friend, knew every song and could sing on tune. We spoke in spanish, but she speaks english as well.
She told me she gives a special massage, but lots of girls say that. in her case, it was TRUE. in rm 11, we kissed and undressed each other, very romantically. Naked she had just the body type that I like best - muscled, not thin, fit, curvy. then she washed me off in the sink with antiseptic soap and herself as well. On the bed, she got the condom ready and I got worried ("isn't it early for the condom" I said. "don't worry" she said. "lie face down please").
She started to massage my back, then added some nice massage oil, then massage with her tits, then her pussy, then her whole body, kissing my neck and ears from time to time. this was far and away the sexist massage that I have ever had. Finally, she flipped me over and repeated the entire process on the front, including massaging little zinger with her slick pussy lips!
She expertly slipped my condom on. Her body was in the way, so I could not see and could barely feel what she was doing, since she kept massaging my balls and shaft while she did it. Covered blow job, which was really not necessary at this point. Cowgirl, put my hands on her breasts (enhanced, but nicely) and made me squeeze them, kissed my nipples snuggled my neck and kissed my ears. Without disengaging she rotated to reverse cowgirl, more incredible sensations. Then missionary, with a folded pillow under her hips for maximum penetration.
For this girl, I finally climaxed. wow.
we even had some nice post-coital snuggles and talk. she told me that the day before she had 5 men, and only fucked one of them (the other four were more than happy with the "massage"). I can believe it.
I said "you know my favorite music, you are the best in bed, can you dance too?" she said, "I am the best dancer here. do you want me to dance for you? just pay me"
rm 11. marta. remember that! unique experience in sxm.
Back in the bar, jesicca hits me up for a session. i spot juliana across the bar. go to meet her. lift her feet off the ground in a big hug. to bar. "mucho fucky-fucky for you today?" she says, then laughs. Marta comes up to the bar and says she will dance on the stage if I buy her a vodka and orange juice. Ok! she changes into a white string bikini with a little white skirt and has the bar play "hips don't lie".
On the dance stand, she really can dance. other girls start collecting tips for her. I bring her drink over and set it on the side of the dance stand. then she dances throughout the room, teases the guys, collects some $1 tips, and eventually retires back to her room. There is no applause or hooting - this is a pretty restrained crowd.
4. Juliana and I cuddle at the bar - talk - kiss - drink. I have 30 minutes left, so I invite her back to her room for some quiet naked time: snuggle, kiss, fondle, another hard on (milagro!) no sex. then off for home.
four hours in a single club. 2 faked orgasms. 1 real orgasm. a wonderul time. even with camila who wasn't a super session, i loved touching and kissing that beautiful body, and trying to kiss that beautiful face!
-zing
[QUOTE=Mel365]Tonight my heart hurts,
I spoke to mi amor in SXM this evening. She does not know how to use the voicemail so even though I connected to her phone many times I was only able to speak to her once today.
After 8 days with me, I know it was hard for her to go back to the bullshit of her work.
It really breaks my heart that she has to work, but that is life and unfortunately, I can do nothing about it. She was literally crying into the phone as to how much she misses me and I feel her pain as I too wish I were with her and not just for sex. I know she was sincere and I feel like a heel leaving her to her shit.
Then the monger in me pops up. My other problem is in 12 days I am having my other amor flown in from Bogotá.
This will require much engineering to keep them apart.
I have trouble keeping the E-mails and names separate. This is why all working girls call their dates honey, or mi amor etc and never use a first name.
Tonight I feel like a slob taking these girls away from their routine which puts them into the robot mode and treating them like the women they are, and then back to their real world. My heart is heavy.
Mel[/QUOTE]
I have lots of experience at this but in Colombia / Venezuela.
Evey once in a while a chica comes along that is very special. I'm talking about with a pro from a casa, service, etc.
The chemestry is perfect together and you spend good quality time together.
You go way past the client / pro relationship.
I've taken several chicas out of the houses in Colombia / Venezuela and have had pretty fun relationships with all of them.
Though the boyfriend / girlfriend part of the relationships ended, I'm still pretty good friends with most of them.
I helped most of them with further education, and only a couple of them got back into the "business".
Of course the ones that got back into the business was because they were spoiled or lazy ... didn't want to study, or look for a "real job" ... like a stripper in the US, but to a lesser degree, they like the "easy money".
Obviously it's much easier to do this in South America than in St Maarten, it can be done.
A lot of dudes on this board say, "once in the biz, always in the biz", but that's not true. A lot of these chicas would love a shot at normalcy and a real relationship. It does take a commitment on the part of the guy though, to help the chica out and get her on her feet studying and working a real job.
Much easier to do in Colombia than on the island, obviously. And much much less expensive.
Just mis dos pesitos ... my 2 cents basically :)
Man, I got a good laugh out of Zings story! I too, have faked one with a chica. I did it for a different reason...a few years ago in Aruba I was on my 4th chica in as many hours and just didn't have it in me to cum again but it was obvious that this girl was not going to stop until I was satisfied. So I did the fake groan and grunt so as not to hurt her feelings (or myself!)
We indeed are an unusual group here....mongers that fake Os for the chicas in a brothel!
By the way, there is a book on Extended Sexual Orgasm (ESO) that goes into techniques to not only prolong the expereince, but to also have multiple orgasms in men without leche. I was into it for a while with an ex-girlfriend. It was amazing....spectacular orgasms without releasing, but still staying hard. When I finally did release the leche, it was mindblowing. I could orgasm up to 4-5 times in just a few minutes...cascading waves of pleasure increasing in intensity with each wave.
Now that I am much older and heavier, don't quite have the stamina to go on like that.
pogo
[QUOTE=Zing23]I made it a perfect tranquil evening for her, instead of an exciting night of sex for me!
-zing[/QUOTE]I've come to the same conclusion with every TLN that I've done. It's nice on the one hand because I'm sure the girl appreciates being able to relax, being treated like a woman, and being away from work. But, it's quite expensive! I always found myself wondering "why am I paying her to give her a good time?"
With Natalia, I did one TLN with her (granted, it was at a huge discount of only $100) I didn't even have sex with her! We came home, watched some TV, we made out for a while and both passed out watching a movie. I made her breakfast in the morning and brought her back. I felt weird paying, but she was more than happy to take the money (obviously.)
I think it's our nature, just that we (most of us?) seem to want to treat the girls well and enhance the GFE that it's hard to just bring them home, throw them on the bed, and fuck them until your penis falls off.
Zing,
It was great reading your first TLN experience. It might not have reached your expectations, and I guess there are 2 reasons for that.
First one is simply the lack of experience in TLN. You have had hundreds of ST in SXM, building up an incredible experience till reaching the level of a true master in this art. But TLN is another art, it needs experience too before controlling it in the same way as ST. My first TLN were disappointing too, and the latest were simply magical. I don't feel experienced enough too in this field and I have also still a lot to learn, but the probability of making a disappointing TLN is much lower than two years ago. I agree, having a disappointing TLN is hard to accept regarding the cost of it. With a disappointing ST, you simply fake the orgasm and go for another one.
The second reason is going with a girl you know too well. I had exactly the same experience with Louisa. It helped to develop our friendship, she was gratefull to me for a break in her routine and be able to rest, but the sex was not better than during our previous ST. I guess she was simply herself. At least I have build a true friendship with her and I'm looking forward to see her in July in Bogota.
Still, TLN helps to build up in one night what would have taken several weeks of ST. For me, the best part of the relation between a man and a woman is the first night. If there is chemistry, TLN can be magical.
But then you have the lucky guys who manage to make a TLN lasting 14 days in a row...;).
[QUOTE=Routard]It was great reading your first TLN experience. It might not have reached your expectations, and I guess there are 2 reasons for that.
... The second reason is going with a girl you know too well. I had exactly the same experience with Louisa. [/QUOTE]Thanks for the feedback everyone. I wasn't complaining, only reporting. I had a very nice time, with a very nice girl that I liked. After the evening was over, i liked her better, but I realized that much of our interaction at Carolinas was as much orchestrated (faked) by her as by me!
I see these new things as learning experiences. Next time I will do it a little better, etc. Of course, if I get too good at TLN, I will have girls falling in love with me after a single night, like routard. I hope that doesn't happen.
-zing
[QUOTE=Zing23]
Of course, if I get too good at TLN, I will have girls falling in love with me after a single night, like routard. I hope that doesn't happen.
[/QUOTE]
I guess it's still the easy part, keeping it to the first night. What scares me to hell is the next step, having a long term relation like Mel does. The last time I have had sex more than 3 times with the same girl, it was nearly 20 years ago and it ended up in a marriage !
No kidding, since my last story in Mel's boat, I'm scared to go back to Saint Maarten and face her again. This is unknown territory for me. I'm afraid to be disappointed as she has probably already forgotten me. And if not, where is this story going to? I had already problems to handle it after one single night.
Mel,
I guess you are having a hard time far from SXM and from her, and not being able to help her when she is struggling with her shitty destiny. Go and get "Maria full of grace" at your DVD shop, you will end up in like me booking a flight to Bogota. What about making the trip together? I'll be there in July!
Suerte
Routard
It occurs to me that one reason that I may have good success in my TLN adventures is that I give my woman the opportunity to take a nap in the afternoon.
When we go out of the lagoon, we usually make the 11am Bridge and return for the 5:30 Bridge. I usually have guests on board and suggest that mi amor go below in the air-conditioning to take a nap. This leaves her energized for the night.
In review of other postings , it might be a better idea to just pick up your chica and go back to the hotel for an afternoon nap without sex. I believe the evening and morning performance will improve greatly. Also you might negotiate with the house a late arrival for lets say another $50- this will allow a late morning with lots of time for a parting shot(s)
Mel
[QUOTE=Mel365] Also you might negotiate with the house a late arrival for lets say another $50- this will allow a late morning with lots of time for a parting shot(s)
Mel[/QUOTE]
The house would be more than happy to do that, hell, it'd only be $45 at Carolina's. (I think.. if you do a TLN/TLdia at Carolina's, do you have to pay $45 x 2 multas?) I would just wonder about the chica. If there's a ship that morning they may miss out on a lot of business depending on how late they are.
what is the best spanish translation software available for free on the net?
thanks
mel
I use:
[url]http://www.google.com/language_tools?hl=en[/url]
and
[url]http://www.freetranslation.com/[/url]
They both do english to spanish and vice-versa. For going from english to spanish, you really have to play around with the words. The literal translations of lots of things we say don't really translate well.
sxmperson
the multas vary
i believe they are as follows.
carolinas $45-
seamans $100-
defiance $200- (100 goes towards the girls contract so their fee is usually less for the night)
mel
Is the multa for the entire day, or for only half a day? (ie, if you take them at 11:00AM for 24 hours, do you pay 1 or 2 multas?
the multa for 24 hours at carolinas is 45 x 2
seamans and defiance are negotiable for the day multa.
mel
The really popular girls will not go out on a tln until 11or 12 midnight if the place is busy. it is best to enquire as to what nights are better for a tln starting earlier.
mel
[QUOTE=Mel365]The really popular girls will not go out on a tln until 11or 12 midnight if the place is busy. it is best to enquire as to what nights are better for a tln starting earlier.
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my tln was on sat night. shakira/kenney probably worked hard or at least late on fri night, which is a popular night at the clubs.
-zing
[QUOTE=Sxmperson101]I think it's our nature, just that we (most of us?) seem to want to treat the girls well and enhance the GFE that it's hard to just bring them home, throw them on the bed, and fuck them until your penis falls off.[/QUOTE]I couldn't have said it better myself. But what we hope is that THEY will throw us on the bed and fuck us until our penis falls off.
-zing
[QUOTE=Zing23] But what we hope is that THEY will throw us on the bed and fuck us until our penis falls off.
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This is exactly what happpened to me with my very last girl of my latest FKK tour. I begged her to go slower and softer, but she just kept answering that she couldn't. My dick was on fire, it was a mixture of pain and pleasure and I felt like rapped. She was like a tornado and fucked me everything out of me: my last drops of sperm and my very last cash Euros. God what was she beautiful! these are my very last memories, that incredible girl having a wild rodeo on top of me.
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Last night had another round w/Valentina at Carolina's, which was fun as always. How do they manage to land in the fancy bedroom upstairs? Does that mean they're the bosses favorite, or how does that work? Then, I went by Seaman's, and for the 3rd time in a row, didn't see anybody that really lit me up, so I left. My timing must be off, because so many of you have good things to say about Seaman's. I used to like the place last fall, but lately, all I see are the ugly and aggressive gals. So I headed up the hill to the Defiance and wound up with Mara, who is a tiny 22y. O. From Cali. There might have been a couple of other decent looking girls, but it's so damn dark, it's hard to tell. Anyhow, she certainly was bubbly: chattered non-stop and threw in her "sexy dance" for me as well as some off-key singing back in the room. Her personality reminded me of Little Tatiana's at Carolina's. Now that was a girl who threw herself into fucking strangers. Anyhow, Mara also had the first set of A-cups and/or non-enhanced knockers I've encountered on the *****house circuit. One thing I had forgotten about Defiance--no airco--thus, the girls tend to have more of a "scent of a woman" about them.
[QUOTE=Zing23] I slipped the condom off myself and deposited it, wrapped in a wiping tissue, into the wastebasket, hiding the evidence (the girls always look- why?)
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They are not concerm if you have a real or fake orgasm. They are concern if the condom is broken.
Dutchman
I went by Seaman's today to see my regular. I got there a little before 2:00pm and went back to her room. She and her roommate were just hanging out, hiding from their boss. I knocked and she invited me in and we all ended up taking a two hour nap. At about 4:00 we wokeup and me and her had a quick session, really good, she came first. After that, I brought her and her friend into Philipsburg to run a few errands. A nice thing was that the GFE carried over into the off-time in Philipsburg, ie, as we were walking she would hold me hand, put her arm around me, kiss me, etc. Really nice :-)
martinized,
if you are talking about valentina in the vip room with the steps to get into the bed--she got the room as she is doing the guy at the desk with the room keys and the rotten teeth.
mel
Well, if you're gonna shag for 40 bucks, ya might as well shag for a comfortable, quiet room and a real shower. I mean, it's a little late for "Oh, hell no! I have my standards!"
Maartenized,
How did you find valentine. I found her treatment very professional,
I felt like I was in an operating room and not in a bordello.
She is cute and has a very wicked smile. How was she with you?
MEL
st maarten is starting to get packed for the heinekin regatta, which starts tomorrow and goes thru the weekend. the traffic from marigot to philippsburg thru cole bay was the worst i have ever seen it (backed up to the french border).
arrived at carolina about 145pm. it was packed. saw a lot of cute girls. had a message to deliver to a specific chica from a fellow monger before I got distracted, but immediately i heard a girl call my name (my bar name, I have a latino bar name, besides my isg name and my real name!). there was kenney, my tln, who should have been gone. turns out she changed her plane reservations and doesn't leave until next monday.
i told her i had to talk to another chica, she was suspicious, i explained, she was okay, she called the other girl over, i delivered the message and got the reply. no problem!
then i talked to kenney and her 2 short friends. kenney (aka shakira, rm 14) must also be good to other guys, because her cellphone kept ringing and i spent a lot of time flirting with her 2 shorter friends. marcella and ?? when the phone wasn't ringing, she told the other 2 friends about our TLN, especially about falling asleep before and after dinner. She was chagrined.
off to the room, striptease to hotel california, long kissing session, long bbbj, asked for a condom, i complained, she said "me too, but don't be silly!". intense missionary, very passionate, good for me, much better than my lukewarm performances during the tln (it was my first of the day, with my vitamin v, and only drinking water)!
more time in the bar, she said that on monday i should go with one of her short friends only. por que? because she is my friend! the other short friend is going to colombia with her. more cell calls. a popular girl, good for her.
kissed goodbye at the entrance, waved, might see her one more time, but probably not.
went to defiance to see what was available, as i only had 30 minutes left. met two cute girls in pink, both named adriana (1 and 2). shared my bag of chips with them and bought them a coke/beer. talked to my black beauty from earlier visit (name?) - little adrianas drifted off, beauty finished her sewing project that she had been doing - the bar at defiance is big, and casual and empty and funky in the day time, with lots of light too. and not much noise. there were about 6 guys there, a lot.
beauty asked if i wanted to go to her room. i said i only had 5 minutes. i went up and looked her in the eyes and asked if she could give me a 5 minute kiss, non stop.
she was surprised. i asked for the 5 minute kiss because on my first visit to defiance 16 months ago a girl got me to the room when i had no time by begging me to give her just one kiss. it was the start of a beautiful relationship. :=)
we went to her room, the last on the left, downstairs. number ?? started kissing on the bed, did it for 5 minutes, but not earthshaking. i gave a small tip and got ready to leave - she came out with me because she had something to do. in the hallway, i pulled her to me and gave her a real lovers kiss. to which she responded perfectly!
down the stairs and out the side door. she pointed up to the nearby motel where chicas were lined up in front of a room. i deduced that it must be their medical exam. she said yes, and she was using my tip to pay the doctor!
-zing
Well put about being in an OR vs. A cathouse. Val acts (correctly) as if we are there to conduct business. Yeah, you lose some of the wildness that way, but on the other hand, I don't have to hear all of that phony 'mi amor! Mi amor! ' be. S. In turn, she seems to appreciate that I treat her with the same sort of respect or whatever it is, so we get along quite well. I also think she's more intelligent than many of them, which is as much of a turn on as is the fact that she looks great nekkid-what a freakin' great little body.
this is from news.com.au pretty interesting stuff
sex workers report high job satisfaction
by tamara mclean
march 01, 2007 01:51pm
article from: aap
legal prostitutes are just as happy as women in regular jobs, according to a survey that reports high job satisfaction in parts of the sex industry.
but illegal workers who sell sex on the streets had a much grimmer outlook, with half saying they had been raped or bashed in the past year.
the survey compared the mental and physical health of nearly 250 queensland prostitutes aged 18 to 57 who worked in registered brothels, at home or on the street.
legal workers reported similar job satisfaction to women in the general community, but streetworkers were far less happy in the job.
"the general picture is that those women whose families know about their work reported greater job satisfaction than those who kept their work secret," said researcher charlotte seib.
asked why they entered the industry, 82 per cent said they did it for the money and 52 per cent pointed to the flexible working hours.
"and 39 per cent said they had a particular goal in mind such as a new car, a house or a holiday," said ms seib, from queensland university of technology.
one in four of the women surveyed had a bachelor degree or higher, which is contrary to the popular stereotype that sex workers came from socially disadvantaged backgrounds.
more than 60 per cent were employed before joining the industry.
legal workers were mentally on par with other women but streetworkers were far less psychologically stable.
ms seib said the reasons for this were complex but probably stemmed from higher rates of child abuse, illicit drug use and violence on the job.
about half said they had been raped or bashed by a client in the past year compared with 12 per cent of private workers and just 3 per cent of brothel workers.
this proved that legalisation of the industry had been effective for those working within legal boundaries but streetworkers were still at risk, ms seib said.
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If I am correct this article comes out of Australia. If you have ever been to kings cross in Sydney you would see the dramatic difference between Australian sex workers and St martin and third world workers. The girls in Australia are working to buy a new car, the girls in the Caribbean etc are working to pay for their own and their families existence and well being.
having lived with a madam of a brothel for over 10 years this work for the most part is a matter of existance and not of lifestyle improvement.
Mel
[QUOTE=Zing23]. had a message to deliver to a specific chica from a fellow monger, i delivered the message and got the reply. no problem!
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Thanks Zing
Routard, the fellow monger
i had a good excuse to go to st maarten today, but my wife decided to go with me! luckily my excuses are always real and valid, so we did my errands together. at about 3pm in marigot on the french side, i dropped her off to run into a small market for a cold water. there was no place to park and people were trying to get past, so i drove ahead a block and pulled over. after a few minutes I decided she won't be able to find me, so I got out and started walking back. shortly i spotted her on the corner where i had dropped her, waved, and started walking back to the car.
immediately i heard a girl calling out my latino bar name! i looked up a cross street and there was Cynthia, a girl from Defiance that i haven't seen in over 14 months. she is rushing toward me, with a big smile on her face, along with a girlfriend.
I give her a devil sign (crossed fingers) and say "no, mi esposa" (wife). she smiles at me and keeps walking past, telling her friend in spanish, "do you know who that is? ..."
i watch her walk across the street as my wife walks up, then we drive away.
cynthia is a black girl from tullua colombia with a gap in her teeth and an incredibly yummy natural rack. she was my first GFE in st maarten. she is the girl who used the "un beso para me" trick to get me into her room the first time. after about 6 weeks, she ran away from the defiance bar and moved to marigot. then she had one of her girlfriends direct me from defiance, secretely, to her hideout, so we could make love (presumably in her boyfriend's bed!).
after that we went to hotels a few times, the beach, and then her cellphone stopped working and i presumed she had gone back to colombia (the police still had her passport and normally the girl gets it back by leaving the country).
has cynthia stayed her in st martin ever since as an illegal immigrant? or did she go back home (as another girl later told me) and then return somehow (very difficult). or did she marry her french boyfriend? or did she sleep with the policeman to get her passport back? what about her 4 year old son in colombia? when I saw her, she looked perfectly happy and well and blended nicely into marigot. I wondered all these things as my wife and I drove through town to do some more errands. what a wierd experience...
-zing
You got extremely lucky! I think the wife best stay off the island!
BTW, I went back by Carolina's last night to check out if any new girls were there. There were quite a few new girls there. I honestly only recognized a few. Also, last night was the last night of the Regatta on the island and I would have assumed all the good looking girls would be taken out on TLNs (the island was nuts), but there were a lot of good looking ones there.
I was checking them out and Laura caught me off guard, and talked me into going back with her for another BBBJ/CIM. It will be my last time with here, there's too many girls there that I need to have sessions with! Laura is nice and all, and speaks enough English for it to be refreshing, but she's just not what I like.
Since my regular Kenney/Shakira left Carolina at 9am, I arrived at 11am to try some new girls.
1. Diana. rm 8. implants. otherwise, perfect body. pretty face, brown hair. Gave her a nice massage. World class, open mouth DFK. Very good service, except BJ was covered. Kept asking me, "do you like this?" as she did each thing.
2. Marisal. rm 7. cute, brown hair with blond highlights, very short, natural body (small breasts). body not as perfectly proportioned as Diana. recommended to me by kenney. gave her a nice massage. BJ also covered (she has a throat infection, said BBBJ would not be safe). not nearly as active and sexy a performance as Diana, but our personalities clicked and I enjoyed her more than Diana! God, we men are wierd.
Went to Seamans, session with my regular Juliana from last year (rm 15). asked for a massage, as I was tired from all the work at Carolina. nice friendly sex.
Girls had some kind of a meeting in the back, so I went to the bar alone. no chicas, only guys. later girls reappear in the bar. Juliana suggested I go to the room again with her roommate Gloria for a repeat. Did so. beautiful girl.
-zing
p.s. saw Mel briefly at one club, spotted Routard arriving 100 yards away as I was leaving and talked briefly on the cellphone, and met sxmperson's Paula (rm 4, right?) at Seamans club - this girl exudes sexuality. Did not session with her, but was attracted. (Correction: sxmperson says his Paola is in rm 8 or 9, augmented breasts, white, muscular abs. wrong paola!)
This is my first post though have been member/viewing for years…some password issue but that has been resolved so thought I’d try and make a meaningful contribution.
Stayed St. Martin Feb 8th – 13th at Holland House. On Front St. Good base for operations. Absolutely girl friendly, in fact no one paying attention as they have a pretty active bar/restaurant area just past reception. Lobby is open from street of the touristy shopping street straight through to the beach with a great restaurant setting inbetween (pricey but good food also).
Rented a car but after the 2nd day of absolutely no parking returned it to the airport Hertz. Taxi’s are plentiful enough, they know all the places previously mentioned and from the Holland House you can actually walk to Chateau as it’s just past the college (and the dump on the left). You could continue to walk on that same road to Carolina but it’s a dusty dirt road and it’s a least 1 mile. Not worth it for a 5 dollar cab ride from Front St.
Ended up with 3 chicas during the stay. A fucked up stomach probably from the water put me off for 48 hours. Of the 3, the attached is the only one worth mentioning.
Was sitting at the bar in Carolina’s at about 3:30pm when she walked by. I stopped her but she said she’d be right back and went out the front door. Since nothing else was happening as most girls were running errands or in town shopping I headed out and caught a taxi. As we were passing the bank next to the public parking lot I spotted her coming out (she had just made a $1600 wire transfer to her sister in Medillin. I invited her in and with the taxi drivers help negotiated $125 for 3 hours as she had to be back by 7:00.
Great time, great girl. BBBJ and every position. Was still about 12% fucked up from the water but still hit it like Ted Williams. 4 shots, gave her a bottle of KY which was in short supply in SMX, taxi fare and a kiss on the cheek. I think her name is Valerie or Valentina or something like that but highly recommended. ENJOY THE PICS!
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[QUOTE=Zing23]Since my regular Kenney/Shakira left Carolina at 9am, I arrived at 11am to try some new girls.
1. Diana. rm 8. implants. otherwise, perfect body. pretty face, brown hair. Gave her a nice massage. World class, open mouth DFK. Very good service, except BJ was covered. Kept asking me, "do you like this?" as she did each thing.
2. Marisal. rm 7. cute, brown hair with blond highlights, very short, natural body (small breasts). body not as perfectly proportioned as Diana. recommended to me by kenney. gave her a nice massage. BJ also covered (she has a throat infection, said BBBJ would not be safe). not nearly as active and sexy a performance as Diana, but our personalities clicked and I enjoyed her more than Diana! God, we men are wierd.
Went to Seamans, session with my regular Juliana from last year (rm 15). asked for a massage, as I was tired from all the work at Carolina. nice friendly sex.
Girls had some kind of a meeting in the back, so I went to the bar alone. no chicas, only guys. later girls reappear in the bar. Juliana suggested I go to the room again with her roommate Gloria for a repeat. Did so. beautiful girl.
-zing
p.s. saw Mel briefly at one club, spotted Routard arriving 100 yards away as I was leaving and talked briefly on the cellphone, and met sxmperson's Paula (rm 4, right?) at Seamans club - this girl exudes sexuality. Did not session with her, but was attracted. (Correction: sxmperson says his Paola is in rm 8 or 9, augmented breasts, white, muscular abs. wrong paola!)[/QUOTE]
Great reports thanks. Can you give us some updates on prices and time frames please.
[QUOTE=Blastoff]Great reports thanks. Can you give us some updates on prices and time frames please.[/QUOTE]
standard price for a session with a girl is $40. you don't even have to ask or negotiate that price. that is for a time period of 20 to 30 minutes, CBJ and CFS. other services and quality vary by girl.
if you stay for 45 minutes, pay $60 (or negotiate in advance).
if you stay for an hour, pay $80 (or negotiate in advance).
if she provides anal, pay $20 extra would be my advice, although cheaper guys would offer nothing!
if she provides BBBJ, nothing extra.
tipping is not a good idea. does not increase service level for anyone.
casa blanca club is different. $45 paid to the bar.
-zing
nice pics!!!!!
Any mongers on Island this weekend?
Pogo....on my way to SXM today.
I went to Seaman's to see my regular in the evening and she wasn't to be found. Her friend saw me and told me that she was chilling out in her room. I went back there and she invited me in to watch "The Departed" on their DVD player. We watched about half of it and then the security guard came and knocked (I guess he thought I wasn't that big of a stud!) and so her roommate left, and me and my regular had a really nice session.
Afterwards I went over to Carolina's to see what was going on. I talked to a few girls and then one came up to me to talk, and she immediately ordered a drink (a whiskey sour, the one they get the little ticket for.) She never asked me for a drink or anything. While the bartender was making the drink the girl ordered I told her I wasn't interested and the girl left. Then the bartender has the drink ready and starts demanding that I pay for it. I refused, saying I never ordered it and the girl didn't ask me for it. I told the bartender it's not fair that anyone can just order drinks at random and I'm supposed to pay for them (especially when it's the ticket drink.)
So the bartender told me that either I or the puta has to pay for it. So I went over to the chica and told her that the bartender wanted to talk to her. She walked over there and I just left Carolina's, disgusted.
My question: What should I have done? Did I handle that correctly?
Theoretically you are right. But practically, I do never behave like that. The bar is for socializing, and any girl asking me for a drink will get a drink, even if I did not invite her or if she doesn't fancy me. It allows me to stay a bit with her, chat with her but also with her amigas and build up a reputation of cool guy. You might think that what she did was unfair, but how many times did you take the time from another girl without even paying anything? Hey we are there to have fun!
Anyone have any info on freelancers in St Bart's? There is definitely no P4P, but I thought someone might have heard of SXM chicas taking the ferry over.
[QUOTE=Routard]Theoretically you are right. But practically, I do never behave like that. The bar is for socializing, and any girl asking me for a drink will get a drink, even if I did not invite her or if she doesn't fancy me. It allows me to stay a bit with her, chat with her but also with her amigas and build up a reputation of cool guy. You might think that what she did was unfair, but how many times did you take the time from another girl without even paying anything? Hey we are there to have fun![/QUOTE]
I see what you're saying. I'll usually get the girl a drink if they *ask* me for one, but when they ask for the drink that gets them the ticket they need, I feel used and it becomes not fun for me. Also, in my situation the girl had already walked away after I told her I wasn't interested. So I was stuck at the bar with a drink I didn't even know about for a girl who wasn't there! :-)
To be honest, I've never approached a girl and used her time at the bar and not gone back with her. The only girls whose time I've "wasted" would be those that approach me when I'm not interested.
That brings me to another question: What type of girls do you prefer? Those that approach you, or those that don't? I prefer the ones that don't approach me. I like to sit down, enjoy a beer, and look at the girls and see which one catches my fancy. But, I completely understand why the girls approach the guys. I'm sure there are a lot of guys that would probably be a bit shy to walk over and ever say Hi. This is all personal preference.
SXMperson,
Problem is that I can't make an opinion only on physical look, I need to check it out by a small chat, it doesn't really matter if she makes the first move or I. Don't believe that those coming to you are only barracudas. They sometimes do it because they want to chose also, and it might be a good clue to check out if there might be mutual chemistry. Does she approach any guy in the bar, only some type of guys or even only you, this is another important question. If you read again my "love boat" story, you will find out that she was the one that did the first move. I just come back from SXM, have met her again and we have discussed a lot about what has happened that night between us. More about this very soon in my full report.
Bruce Boda,
No, the working chicas have all their passports at immigration and can't leave the island, especially not to other FWI islands. If you want to monger, don't even think you can do it in Saint Barth, just go to SXM.
[QUOTE=Bruce Boda]Anyone have any info on freelancers in St Bart's? There is definitely no P4P, but I thought someone might have heard of SXM chicas taking the ferry over.[/QUOTE]
even if she had her passport, she cannot get into St Barth without a visa if she is from Latin America or even from any of the other non-French islands in the Caribbean! I have been in St Barth a lot and have never seen anything that looks even close to a freelancer. Not that there isn't a lot of eye candy on St Barth among tourists and workers - there is!
-zing
[QUOTE=Zing23] Not that there isn't a lot of eye candy on St Barth among tourists and workers - there is!
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Yes, and even latinas! Penelope Cruz and her sister were in Saint Bart in December, you could try out your routine chica approach with the spanish vocabulary learned in the brothels! :D
Can anyone tell me if the Westin, Dawn Beach Resort and Spa on 144 Oyster Pond Road is close to the action? Thanks. I am planning a next day trip to St. M and am pressed for time.
Viper
[QUOTE=Viper10]Can anyone tell me if the Westin, Dawn Beach Resort and Spa on 144 Oyster Pond Road is close to the action? Thanks. I am planning a next day trip to St. M and am pressed for time.
Viper[/QUOTE]
you can walk from there to casa blanca brothel.
by car, 10 minutes or less to seamans club and carolina.
not a bad choice.
zing
My plane was late and I was pretty tired, so I contemplated not going out last night.....but the little stick had other ideas!
I decided to go to Defiance, just to kill a little time for a while. There were a few mongers at the bar with some girls, but it didn't look like they were buying as all the girls were trying to catch my eye. I ordered a beer an watched for a while...until I felt an arm sliding around my waist. I looked up and there was an absolutely stunning woman looking into my eyes. I just stared for a few seconds until she leaned in an gave me a kiss on the lips with just a little tease of tongue. Her hair was still wet from a shower and she smelled wonderfully clean and fresh.
We sat for a few minutes trying to talk, but she speaks no English and a higher vocabulary of Spanish than I am used to. But that didn't matter at all....the look in her eyes, her hugs and kisses spoke enough.
Her name is Katarina. Her breasts looked enhanced and there was a certain femininity about her that was totally irresistible. We went to her room and her kisses changed to extreme DFK. We stood and kissed while we undressed and then just laid on the bed and kissed some more while our hands slowly explored each other. I headed down for my favorite snack.
Let me tell you my friends....she is tasty! After a while her rhythm changed, she got very wet and clamped her legs around my head while she grabbed my head and steered me to the spots she liked.
After she came, she slipped a condom on me and started a BJ. I just wanted to get inside her as she was so smooth and wet. I tried to move her into a reverse cowgirl but she misunderstood and turned it into a 69. No problem as I just couldn't get enough of that tasty treat. We stayed that way until I exploded. Afterward we traded massages and kissed and cuddled some more until the little stick woke up again. Then we slowly made love again.
As I watched her get dressed and touch up her make up I realized I could be quite happy watching her forever. She has a natural grace and sexiness. And by the way....her breasts were natural!
In all she was an awesome GFE that I will want to see again. Her room is 225 (she called it her penthouse) and I strongly recommend her.
On my way out I saw a lot more girls in the bar. I think that Defiance is trying to get in on the competition between Seamans and Carolinas as this was the best looking line up of girls I have ever seen at Defiance. They seem to have changed their selection to appeal more to American/Eurpoean tastes. More blonds, more petite bodies with full chests and lighter skin tones instead of the typical Morenas and Negritas they usually offer. And all of them were beautiful! I didn't see anything less than a 7.
Of course that leaves me with a dilemma as I want to see Katarina again, but there are also a few others I would like to try. I know that if I see her again, she will get possessive of me and make it more difficult to try the others...but then she is so sweet and sexy that I will probably take that risk.
Not a bad problem to have!
I'll be heading out later this afternoon to see what is available at Seamans and Carolinas. It looks like this will be a very good trip.
pogo
She is the sweetest girl I have ever met in a brothel, but I will not give you her name. We made love together for hours, but I will not describe the sex. I have plenty of pics of her including naked as she initiated it, but I will not show you any. I’m not even sure if my story is eligible on a prostitution forum, as I have left her without paying a single $, even if we have spend 24 hours together. I don’t want to lose my ISG membership, so before you report to the site administrator that I write useless reports, let me tell you what you will get: my final conclusion after five years of intensive study on GFE. Worth to read, don’t you think so?
My story begins here [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=549491&postcount=560[/url] when I met her and had spend a wonderful night with her on Mel’s boat, so if you haven’t read this report start to read it first. I had written a medical epilogue after, but haven’t written very much about the emotional issues I had after this experience. Having the girl you love locked up in a brothel and being fucked by a dozen of strangers every day is something not easy to deal with. I don’t blame anyone for this, I even know that Jaime the boss took great care of her when she was sick and a few ISG fellow members helped her too. I won’t blame her for doing what is considered morally wrong (how could I , I’m a monger myself), she just tries to survive by earning enough money to help her family and change her own life once back in her country. I can’t blame myself too for not being able to help her, I need to protect my own family, and she knows it. I tried to forget her, stopped corresponding with her and went for a huge FKK tour trying to fuck her out of my mind. But even after having fucked 30 girls in a week, sometimes even with high emotions, I still could not forget her. I preferred at first to wait that she had returned to Colombia before going back to SXM. I believed that she would have forgotten me anyway and dared not to contact her again. But then Zing gave me some news about her through PM. He learned me a new English word: “infatuation”. Mel informed me through PM that he would be in SXM and offered me to come on board. I had also some personal issues that were solved and that allowed me to go back to SXM. There are moments that you need to believe in destiny, I had to face her again and try to get out of my emotional trap.
My plane landed in SXM, and the very first person I saw was Zing, catching his plane that was leaving SXM at the very same moment. We communicated through cell phone and waived from a distance, but couldn’t get closer due to airport security restriction. He informed me he had just seen her and wished me good luck. Yes, there are moments that you believe in signs!
I rushed to Carolina, full of hope, and was disappointed, the bar was still empty. I waited for a chica to call her. When she saw me, she was surprised, for some reason she didn’t believe I would really come. I guess I had hurt her by stopping communicating. But what shocked me most was that she looked like shit after 3 months in the brothel. She informed me that indeed she was not doing well. I asked her to get the hell out of that place with me at once. She asked me to wait for her that she could prepare herself. I paid the double multa and waited in the restaurant. I was worried as I just kept thinking how bad she was doing. Mel entered the restaurant, looking for me. We couldn’t talk much, as his girlfriend was waiting in the car, so he just offered me to come to the boat as soon as I was ready. When she appeared again, she was looking already much better. We continued discussing in the car, and give me some news about her and her family. She had no idea were we were going, and she didn’t ask me what we were going to do. But when we arrived, she smiled. Once on board, she was happy to see Mel again and meet his girlfriend. We took our cabin and we realized we felt both the same. It made us remember our first night together. It was as if we started all over exactly were we had left it the last time. We stayed for half hour discussing together, trying to understand what happened that night between us. She confirmed me with her own words what Zing had confirmed me too. Yes, I had seriously underestimated her feelings. Mel knocked on the door, I took a quick shower and we left all four together to the restaurant. Other friends joined us too, and we had a great dinner together. During dinner, I noticed how much her face had changed since I took her out of the brothel. She was again a woman with dignity, enjoying life. She had managed to forget her routine life and simply enjoyed the time we were spending together. I felt happy to see how great she was doing.
At the end of the dinner, Mel returned to the boat with his girlfriend, but we decided both to have a last drink before. We went to Sunset Bar, my favorite bar in SXM. We finished our private discussion were we had left it in our cabin before going to dinner together with the others. We were again just the two of us, drinking a tropical cocktail at the beach by night, it couldn’t be more romantic. We realized both that our feelings were still as strong as when we met the first night. I was like in a dream, another life in another world. She was so excited that she phoned her sister in Bogota to tell her how happy she was. She asked me to talk to her on the phone, she wanted me to enter in her circle of trust. Her sister is the only person of her family that knows what she is really doing in SXM.
We left Sunset Bar and entered nearby Bliss. The atmosphere was great, lot of tourists partying the end of the Heineken Regatta. Another sign, as soon as we entered, Colombian superstar Shakira started to sing “Hips don’t lie”. She started to dance, and I felt indeed her Colombian hips moving to the rhythm of the music. We danced for half an hour together, without loosing eye contact and our bodies sensually touching each other. We could have stayed all night long, but dancing is a vertical expression of a horizontal desire. At one moment, we just looked at each other, and we both understood that we wanted to go back to the boat.
We made love for hours that night. Needless to say, condom was out of question. When she orgasmed, I could not hold anymore and exited. But she took firmly to make me enter again and feel my orgasm inside her. This was the first time it happened to me, I always exited to orgasm during previous unprotected sex. I feel it’s unfair else, as it makes the risk ten times higher for the girl. But it asks also a lot confidence on the man's side for the risk of pregnancy. We woke up in the middle of the night again, strangely at the same moment, and made love again. That night was simply magical.
When we woke up in the morning, we took a shower together and went out for breakfast. The nearby cafe at the marina was full of tourists. Breakfast is my favorite moment after having spend a night with a girl. I discovered how beautiful she was in daylight. Despite few hours of sleep, she looked great, happy and…beloved. We discussed about what she was going to do once back in Colombia, her future plans. I was expecting her to come to the subject. And yes, she popped it. She explained me that she wanted to build up a business, being able to live independent. She didn’t want to live with any man, I would be her distant novio, and once she could afford it, after a couple of years, then she would have a baby…with me. We seem to be so close, I seem to know her so well, that I wasn’t even surprised about it, I was expecting her to come with it. I tried to explain her the responsibility it involves in having a baby, but I know by experience that you just can’t change the mind of a woman about this. Procreation is a female instinct, especially when she feels confident with a man.
We had a day to spend together, but before she wanted to buy a camera to take pictures of us. We went to Phillipsburg. Front street is the nightmare of any man accompanying a woman. I guess no man likes to do shopping with a woman, but Front street is even worse than elsewhere. The tax free shops have such good deals, that it’s getting real expensive! Meanwhile, I was happy to be able to make her gifts. One reason is that I simply could not imagine paying her at the end of the day like a hooker. Gifts would make a good compensation, as I simply could not ignore that spending her time with me prevented her from earning money. Another reason is that I know damn well the Latin culture, and for a Latina, there is no better proof of love than a gift. She had a couple of things to buy before going back to Colombia. At the first shop she was indeed grateful when I paid the gifts for her. At the second shop, she prevented me from paying, and tried to pay with her own money. I didn’t let her do this, which seemed to make her feel uncomfortable. I guess she didn’t want those gifts to be another way of paying her. At the third shop, she simply asked me to wait outside and came back with a gift for me.
We went to Maho Beach before I had to go back to the airport. She wanted to take pictures together at Bliss swimmingpool. There were mainly young and fit guys from the Heineken Regatta, and when we entered, they all looked at her, tongue reaching the floor. We took a drink sitting in one of the outdoor sofas. It was our last conversation, and I had plenty of things to ask her. I needed to know her better, understand her and her feelings, as well as the issue of her job. Unlike the first time we met, she was quiet open about everything: her previous boyfriends, how and why she started this job, the emotional issues around this job, how it has affected her after three month, and despite this how she managed to get sincere feelings and emotions with me, and enjoy sex. Nevertheless, she confessed that those three months had hardened her en that she would be much less naïve with men than previously. She had never worked in brothels before. She felt sorry I have met her in a brothel but admitted that else we would never had met. She was looking forward for me to come and see her in Bogota, so I could discover her real life and meet her family. She just asked me to never tell them I’m married. I answered that we both had our secret. I asked if she had a boyfriend in Bogota. She told me she had one, but had to leave him as he didn’t want her to go. I asked if she would go back with him. She replied that what we have lived together was so strong that it made her realizing how few she had felt for him. Do I take this bullshit? Yes, I take it 100%. To tell the truth, her love is so strong that it even scares me and I would rather think of running away when hearing such things. So she has definitely no reason to lie. Who don’t I run away? I guess for the same reason any man would stay with a woman who loves too much. Mixed feelings, and one might be guilt. I was definitely not looking for a relation, just looking for GFE sex and it went too far. I guess I feel guilty for having brought it to that level and I have now too much feelings for her to hurt her.
Oh, I forgot, I had promised the secret of getting GFE. Well, I tried to analyse where I had made the difference for her compared to all the other customers. For what I understood from her, it was at first sight, the moment when we looked each other for the first time in the eyes. Remember my first report, I explained that I just knew it too, as soon as I saw her. She admitted that when we started conversation, she found I had an arrogant customer’s attitude. Remember, I felt that she had a typical puta approach. I guess that when we met, I was not in the mood for this, it was in the middle of our ISG meeting and I came to have fun with other ISG members. Approach seems not to be a key factor. Still, she knew from the beginning that I was the one, same as I knew she was the one. None of my strategies have been key factors, even not a few tricks I have used in the room. So what was it? I guess you mongers have all seen the movie “Hitch” in which Will Smith is a dating consultant. En what was the conclusion of this movie? Well, there is no such thing as a wining strategy in dating. And this is exactly my conclusion after five years of GFE study. It simply happened because it was her and it was me. Most important is to be sincere, be yourself and respect her for what she is.
Only difference in mongering is that even when she doesn’t like you, she will say yes. In mongering, the key factor for GFE is to find out if there will be mutual chemistry or not. My latest theory was that I had developed a GPS (GFE Pussy Sensor), allowing to have a better selection of the girls I could GFE from. I now understand better how this GPS works: It does not only detect if I am attracted to her, but also if she is attracted to me. There might be only 1 girl out of the 100 in the brothel, but you have to find out which one she is, even if they all try to go with you. In the real world, it’s exactly the same, you have to find the right one, only none of the 100 is trying to go with you!
Time was flying, we had to go back to the boat and prepare to leave. Back in our cabin, she started to take pics of us again and she undressed. She had fun, asked me to take pictures of her, but before I had to promise that those pictures would remain private. Soon I undressed too and we had the wildest sex we have ever had. Hope she will not put the pictures on their chica forum!
It was time to leave. I told her it was just impossible for me to leave her again at the brothel’s door. I asked if she could come to the airport with me, and she fully understood. The girl at the airport desk was expecting us to travel together and felt sorry for us when she understood I was travelling alone. I had never checked with her if I was supposed to pay her or not. I dared not to talk about it and hurt her feelings with it. We had a last hug and I left, promising to see her again in July in Bogota. Yes, it was a real date.
I’m again back at home. Last time when I came back, I was miserable, but this time I feel great. Last time I just tried to understand what had happened and what were her feelings, I have now discussed all this with her. Last time I didn’t know if she would like to see me again or even remember me, now I have her address in Bogota and I know I will see her again soon. Last time I just couldn’t stand the idea she was working hard in the brothel, today I know there are only 2 weeks left.
Another good news: I’m cured of my GFE addiction! Yes, I had to go to the limit and feel what it really means. And what do I feel if I go that far? Exactly what I try to escape at home: responsibility, commitment, guilt…Yes, I don’t want all this bullshit anymore, I just want great sex! Of course, she will always have a special place in my heart and remain my distant novia, but I will never try anymore to go to that level again with another girl. ISG, Routard is back in the game! Put your belts on and get ready for great new adventures. Here my upcoming trips in the next months: Dominican Republic, Brazil, Venezuela, Colombia and again a huge FKK tour!
[QUOTE=Routard]She is the sweetest girl I have ever met in a brothel, but I will not give you her name. We made love together for hours, but I will not describe the sex. I have plenty of pics of her including naked as she initiated it, but I will not show you any. I’m not even sure if my story is eligible on a prostitution forum, as I have left her without paying a single $, even if we have spend 24 hours together.[/QUOTE] wow - i did not know that delivering a simple message from a mongerer to a chica in sxm could have such consequences. thanks for the report.
-zing
Wow, great report Routard! I'm happy to see you feel good about how things played out!
Not too much to report. Boinked somebody whose name started wtih an "E", maybe, (Elsa? , Elena? ) at Seaman's early in the week. Petite body, fake boobs, pleasant dispostion, etc. , etc. Saw Val mid-week, had a good time as always. I was pleased to see the report where she was wiring a big chunk of money home. I've wondered about the financial acumen of some of these girls and whether or not very much or their hard-earned money made it back with them.
[QUOTE=Routard]She is the sweetest girl I have ever met in a brothel, but I will not give you her name. We made love together for hours, but I will not describe the sex. I have plenty of pics of her including naked as she initiated it, but I will not show you any. I’m not even sure if my story is eligible on a prostitution forum, as I have left her without paying a single $, even if we have spend 24 hours together. I don’t want to lose my ISG membership, so before you report to the site administrator that I write useless reports, let me tell you what you will get: my final conclusion after five years of intensive study on GFE. Worth to read, don’t you think so?
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Great romantic story amigo! I enjoyed reading it.
I have also met a number of great chicas in PFP casas, massage places, brothels, etc. that have become my novias (girlfriends).
Like you said, when the chemestry is there, it's there.
Just met another one in Medellin, from the first minute, it was AMOR :)
Now I have another 18 year old beauty telling me "I love you papi".
Anyway, sure makes life nice.
Good luck!
Just a few notes to contribute, as this is the best site for good research have come across.
Visited a few clubs and while can't improve on the great reports already here, can shed a bit more light on Casa Blanca and Sunset Bar.
CB opens around 11 am and goes until dawn. Day selection there is very limited and the girls mode of dress is less than stimulating. Have found a gem or two there, but most of the 30 or so gals (all from Santo Domingo) tend to be rather aggressive and when get to room, less than enthusiastic. The last one was on the rag, and claimed 'oh, I thought that was over yesterday'.- not too cool. No price discussion, pay at bar up front, or at window just before entering 'catacombs'.
One good thing, in afternoon, if there happens to be any chemistry.- nobody watches the clock, so can take your time and not get dinged for dollars with each passing few minutes.
Sunset does not usually open until close to 10 pm, is quite small and dark and the selection is mostly of the 'larger' variety DR resident. Even more pushy than CB, but again there is the occassional find even in this armpit.
The posts about Seamens have all been right on target. Would not advocate going 'on the cheap' but if that is what winds your watch, there is great variety as well as room to discuss 'price point' if you wish. Some of the young ones have gone as low as 20 USD. Hey guys, what can I say.- long live Dr. Greenspan and the free market economy.
This is a fun island for sure.- one of the best.
Enjoyed reading all your posts.- you guys are better than Langley.
[QUOTE=Viper10]Can anyone tell me if the Westin, Dawn Beach Resort and Spa on 144 Oyster Pond Road is close to the action? Thanks. I am planning a next day trip to St. M and am pressed for time.
Viper[/QUOTE]
Don't want to sound too negative about the place, but this is the one that opened in December last year, am i right? Back then there was a lot of construction going on, it was noisy and dirty, and almost nothing was functioning the first days after opening. Although this may have improved by now (three months later), I would have assumed that a year must pass before you can fully enjoy such a large establishment.
But true, this place is just 2- 10 mnts drive from the action. Personally I would have picked Captain Oliver's in stead, but that could just be me.
Just my two cents on the subject.
Hey all, I just came back.
As a tourist, I had a great time in the island and i am planning to go back there in May again. I am going back because of beaches/restraurants, not because of brothels (pls, believe me). My hotel was in the Dutch side, however I spent most of my time in French side. I saw the regatta, airplane landings at Maho and earned about $200 from casinos. Spent most of my time in Grand Case, Pinet Island and Orient Beach.
Not much to talk about brothels. I went to Seamen's Club once, Carolina twice. I preferred Carolina over Seamen's Club because I thought Carolina girls were slightly better. Girls from both places were nice and eager to please me as a customer.
Thanks to you guys, I had a great fun in the island!
Not much to tell about the rest of my stay this time. I made it to Seamans only once. I met a real cutie at the bar. She was pretty energetic, dancing and singing with the music. She seemed like a good one so I bought her a Red Bull and we headed to her room. I didn't catch her name, but she is in room 7.
Once we got here, she put a CD in the player and cranked it up so loud that I thought my head was going to burst. I got her to turn it down a bit. She did a long, wild strip tease for me and got me really turned on. We moved to the bed, but that was a bit of a dissapointment. No DFK or any kissing, would not let me have a snack at the Y ...just wanted to get to the act. She was a pretty good fuck, but not the whole package I was looking for.
Unfortunately, the night I had planned to go back to Defiance for a visit with Katarina I got stuck with some business stuff and never made it.
Although...after seeing Routards post....maybe it was fortunate that I didn't make it as I could see myself getting VERY interested her. I do fantasize about getting a divorce and getting into a relationship with a nice young Latina to keep me happy in my senior years, but I know that it is just a fantasy.
The reality is that, for me, a relationship would entail more on an intellectual level than a 25 year old could provide. Perhaps that is why that even when I find a chica that really attracts me I rarely go back for seconds. It could be too easy for me to want to take it farther. I like falling in love more than being in love. That's my danger zone.
On a side note, I actually found a West Indian Street walker! I was heading into the Colleseum Casino downtown and she was there in a very tight short skirt. She was a bit on the thick side and looked like a sausage in that skirt and totally not my type....but I still talked to her for a bit. She wanted 250 for an hour or a grand for the night! I just about choked to death trying not to laugh in her face....knowing that a 5 minute walk could get me at least to Petite Chateau which would still be far nicer and infinitely more economical than her. And of course 5 minutes in the car would get me to any of our favorite places. But I guess she is making a living there?
pogo
[QUOTE=Rastaman]Would someone please post the address or directions on how to get to DEFIANCE???? Thanks.[/QUOTE]
Here are my directions from about 4 pages back: ... so decide to check the girls at Defiance bar. This place is located at the top of the hill on the road that runs past seamans club. as you reach the summit, you will see a car wash on the left. slow down. you will come to be big arched entryway on the right, turn in. there is a nice snack bar on the left (i ordered a chicken sandwich - el sandwiche pollo, por favor) and defiance is the bar on the right. there is no sign. it is quiet in the afternoons, but there are plenty of girls around. be patient. you can even go back in the rooms and ask around. and there is no time limit or bar fee. and no air conditioning, so winter is better than summer!
hope that helps.
zing
p.s. i was in st maarten today and have news of carolina, crystal club and
petit chateau. more later.....
This is kind of a long report for a 4 hour visit to the clubs, but a lot happened on that visit.
Juliana - Seamans Club - rm 14
Arrived at 1105am, no girls in the bar, went back to Juliana's room and knocked. she is already dressed and made up, but her roommate Gloria is still putting on her makeup (naturally she looks plainer without the eyeshadow, etc!). We go to the bar to sign Juliana into work, then back to the room and sat on the bed, watching Gloria get ready, groping each other and giggling.
Sex is straightforward and enjoyable: bbbj, miss, cuddle. YMMV - I have been with Juliana about 20 times in 2 years. Back in the bar, she steers me into the corner, away from Gloria and the other girls. Previously I had taken Gloria or another girl to the room after my regular Juliana, but I sensed that that last time, when I spent over an hour with Gloria, may have been a bit much for Juliana. So we chatted for a while and I made excuses and left without sampling any other girls.
Jacqueline - Crystal Club
I parked in front of Carolina at about 12 noon. Noticed a slim, dark, pretty girl in a turquoise miniskirt come out of the tiny store across the street and walk into Crystal Club. Usually the girls in this club are fat and even ugly (to me at least). I haven't been inside Crystal Club in a year, but today little Zinger pulled me across the street.
Upon entry, I noticed a lot of guys buying lunch at the snack bar and about 8 girls, of which 3 were young, slim, fit and attractive. I ordered a Coke and settled at the bar to watch things. The miniskirt girl and her girlfriend (both were slim, pretty, black, dominicanas with nice breasts) were at the bar, and the miniskirt girl told her friend, "you take him, no problem" and wandered off (it is interesting sometimes when you know Spanish and they don't realize that you can understand what they are saying).
The girl friend and I chatted a short time, acoustics were bad and I had a bit of trouble with their dominican accent after all my time with Colombianas. Then the friend had to do something in her room and called miniskirt to take over (like tag team wrestling). At that moment a taller morena (dark skinned, but not black) walked in, very elegant and pretty, a bit older.
Now I am talking to Jacqueline, the miniskirt girl, and she is very hot. In fact, I would be happy to try any of the 3 girls that I spotted.
I am tempted to investigate the facilities with her for the ISG readers, but I am still recovering from Juliana and I need something to eat. So I make my excuses to Jacqueline and head across the street to the Carolina restaurant.
THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THAT I HAVE EVER BEEN ATTRACTED TO A GIRL IN CRYSTAL CLUB! Things are looking up in St Maarten when we have a new club worth visiting.
Paola - Carolina Bar - rm 1
As I entered the Carolina restaurant I noticed 2 things: a girl named Paola and the 3 meatball sandwiches that the new English-speaking chef is serving up. Previously the food was totally antillean (rice and peas, stew chicken, etc) but now the menu has dutch snack items also. I immediately ordered a sandwich for my lunch - it was delicious, with a peanut sauce, sort of dutch indonesian.
I had first spotted Paolo on the day after the heiniken regatta when she was dancing a torrid merengue in the bar with a guy who could also dance well. I talked to her a week later, and now I am standing next to her in the restaurant. She is helping me get attention to order, so I ask if she would like some lunch. We have lunch and coffee together, total $14.
The light is very bright in the restaurant, so it is a good place to check out the girls! Paola is slim, fit, medium-size breasts (possible enhanced, I could not really tell and did not ask), with very curly black hair, white skin, and her face is pretty, but the makeup makes her look a bit careworn (like she has been doing this too long). She speaks some English, much more than most chicas.
The bar is playing loud reggaeton music, but we only hear it when the door to the restaurant opens. I decide to try my new toy: compact portable speakers for my iPod. Now we have latina mood music for our lunch (and later in her room).
During this lunch, I spot Diana and Marcela (see prev report). Marcela gives me a face like "I thought we were an item, why are you with that puta?", but Diana gives me a nice smile and greeting. Routard's girlfriend spots me and rushes over, eager to talk about him. You don't often see girls in a brothel who you can describe as bubbly, but she was! And yes, she is planning to have a baby by Routard - she told me so.
Paola is a little more aggressive than the girls I usually select, but the conversation is fun. She says she wants to capture me as her private amor, starting with an hour session of spectacular sex (she will chupa me sin condon, i will chupa her, we will do everything). I am enjoying her marketing so much and the sight of her body at lunch is influencing me, so I agree. $6 for the bar, while I settle up for lunch, and we are off for rm 1, hand in hand. I like to try new things and stay out of a sexual rut.
In her room, we start with some nice kissing, but she immediately strips down to her high heels and then strips me, folding each piece of my clothing carefully on top of her collapsable closet. Then she sits me down on the edge of the bed and goes right into bbbj, then ball licking, then AR (anal licking), then alternating among the 3. this makes me very horny.
We are listening to romantic music on my iPod, but the session is not at all romantic. More like a porn movie. I stretch her out on the bed for daty and start my soft and gentle approach. after a few minutes of this she asks me to finger her culo (ass), which I do and which she exclaims that she likes (que rico). While I have a finger in her ass, I slip a finger in her pussy, and then press down hard for the first time on her clit. She explodes! Now, this girl is very organized and professional, so it is quite possible that she faked this whole response, but it was indistinguishable from the real thing.
Now she stretches me out on my back, does a little bbbj and slips a condom on her vibrating dildo. She gives me a blowjob and works on my asshole with the dildo. For me, touching and licking my culo is exciting, but dildos are not. I just feel like I have to shit! I let her go on for a while, just to be sure that I am not missing anything important, then I stop her and go to the toilet.
Back on the bed, she kneels with her ass sticking out and asks me to do her culo with the dildo. I start a little hesitantly, then she reaches around and pushes it in hard. So I pump her culo with the vibrator, tickle her clit with one finger, and insert another finger in her pussy to stroke against the dildo from the inside. The main thing that I got out of this is the realization that this slim little girl has an incredible bum. Just perfect to look at and touch.
Next course, she climbs on top of me for 69. She asks me to come in her mouth but the position just isn't comfortable enough for that. Although the 69 is very pleasant!
Finally she pops a condom on me and we finish in missionary. But she isn't over - she rolls me over for a massage, then accepts a massage for herself, and teaches me how to merengue. Smiling the whole time. While we are dancing to a Juan Luis Guerra merengue, I say I really like him and she asks if I have ever heard the mexican group Mana. I haven't but I make a note of it.
Paola asks how much time I have that afternoon and suggests we spend it all together, at her rate, which she states is $100 per hour. I say that I usually pay the girls $80 for an hour session. She replies, but they don't always do bbbj, or provide their culo, or do ar, or etc... she gives much better service, so she deserves more money. I really admire this girl's attitude: very GFE, PSE and money-focused, all at the same time.
She cleans me off in the shower, helps me get dressed and gives me some nice final kisses. I declined the offer of an expensive afternooon with Paola, but I give her the $100 she asked for. She says "that's all?" - it should be "trienta mas". I don't know if this is because we went over the hour (quite possible, as I lost track of time) or because she wants a tip. So I say "que rico propina" and give her another $30 - she says "usted sabe trienta!" which means she is surprised that I know what "trienta" means. Then she says, you gave a propina, so you deserve a propina. She pulls down my shorts and gives me a parting blowjob, the says good bye and sends me out the door.
In the lobby, I notice the cute blonde girl who is a little chubby and who has been at Carolina for the last year at least! I sit down to talk to her and find out that she isn't working, as she has some kind of injury to her thigh that is really swollen and hurts. After a bit of talk and massage, I head back to the bar.
In the bar, I run into Diana from last visit. Some cuddling, a bit of shoulder massage for her, i decline an invitation to her room because I just finished with Paola.
Eva - Petit Chateau - rm 3
As I am driving away from Carolina, I decide to see how Petit Chateau is doing. The parking area is still dirt (mud when it rains). The bar is about the same. 20 girls and about the same number of guys. I am the only white guy in the bar. And the girls are a mixture of Dominicanas and Colombianas. As I am ordering my drink, a tall light-skinned colombian girl slides her hand around my waist and steps to the bar.
She is Eva from Periera - about 1.7m tall, largish natural breasts, not thin and not fat - just firm and curvy. Light brown hair. She speaks some English, but she is pleased that we can talk in Spanish - she even teaches me a few new words for the day. We talk about Periera, which is where Juliana and Louisa are from, and she is surprised that I know so much about this obscure town in Colombia.
We talk for quite a while before she invites me to her room. I accept. The room is newly painted a lavender color and the girl's belongings are no longer in the room. Mel had reported that there were new rooms for the girls to live in, separate from the rooms to work in. Apparently it is true.
She doesn't have a stereo, so there is no music. no problem, i break out my ipod/speaker combination and she is very surprised. asks for marc anthony, which i happen to have (although later she tells me that my marc anthony songs are very old and i should get some new cds. funny fact: the marc anthony cd that she called "old" was given to me as a gift about a year ago by a girl named Leslie at Petit Chateau who claimed to be from Cuba!). I mention that I like Juan Luis Guerra and she says "have you ever heard Mana from mexico?". same as with Paola - i decide to get a Mana cd as soon as possible!
Naked she looks just as nice, large natural breasts. bbbj, daty (very clean chucha), light french kissing, mutual massage, cfs in miss. after about 30 minutes I tell her that she is not going to get any leche from me, due to the other girls and the condom. So she strips off the condom and puts some lotion on her breasts and tries to get me off with a tit job.
It doesn't work, but Eva was very nice to me. I really enjoyed my time with her, left her a gift plus $40, and will be back. They open at 12 noon she says. Eva says that I am a very unusual client. Most of the guys at Petit Chateau just want to get there rocks off as quickly as possible, and can be a little rough. I tell her I haven't been there since the girl was murdered about 6 months ago by a client and she says that is all fixed, she isn't scared.
Apparently, Mel's news that the owner of Petit Chateau has been spending money to fix the place up is true. It is great that another club is trying to make itself worth visiting.
Also visited Defiance and talked to two of the girls that I know. Although the selection of girls there has been improved tremendously, the faciltities are still in need of maintenance and improvement.
When I first visited Seamans Club about 18 months ago, then the other clubs, they mostly seemed like rat holes that had been going downhill for 20 years without maintenance (Carolina being an exception). Now they are being renovated and upgraded, including Casa Blanca. I wonder if this is because our ISG reports have increased business, or because Carolina has increased the competition, or both?
-zing
[QUOTE=Zing23] Routard's girlfriend spots me and rushes over, eager to talk about him. You don't often see girls in a brothel who you can describe as bubbly, but she was! And yes, she is planning to have a baby by Routard - she told me so.
[/QUOTE]
:eek: :eek: :eek:
Getting such news in the middle of an ISG report!!! Zing, how can you title your report "Good news from Saint Maarten" ?
How exactly do you know taste doesn't change?
[QUOTE=Umgman]How exactly do you know taste doesn't change?[/QUOTE]
My wife told me so. Duh!
pogo
Just funnin' ya.
I know...I left myself open to it.<G>
After a few PM and one night of sleep, I get a clearer view. Yes, we have all experienced a woman in love whispering she wants a baby with you. But why the hell did she tell this to Zing?
Either she is dead serious about this, blindly in love and not realizing that there is no better way to scare a man and make him running away. I guess we simply can't realize what emotionnal issues are behind their job. They are left alone and need to hide the truth to their beloved family. Having a romance in the middle of brothel's hell might give them back dignity and self-estime and help them to deal with what they are doing.
Or she might be a dangerous manipulator, faking feelings and try to get out all she can from any man. I just can't believe I could have been so wrong about her, but I guess I will know the truth in the next coming weeks. If once in Colombia she comes up with a story that she is pregnant and that I need to send money...end of story. It would give a different perspective for all of us towards our sweet beloved Colombianas. I'll let you know what has really happened.
Pink Floyd had a tune called "Run Like Hell". That should be your theme song regarding that girl.
Yeah, if she's serious, I'd run like hell :)
Went out for some midday mongering today. Once again, as soon as I walked up to the bar in Seaman's I got the full court press from some random girl-no idea what her name was. Shitloads of makeup. I thanked her and told her I wanted to see everyone as they came in. So she left me alone for about all of 5 minutes then came right back up with that "I like choo" business, so I got sorta annoyed, left, and drove up the hill to Defiance which wasn't open yet. Went to Carolina's, wound up with Valentina, had the usual fun. Then, I drove back by Defiance which had opened up, but nobody was in the main room yet. Went back to Seaman's and I guess by now the original chica had found somebody else to smother. Hallelujah! I managed to spend 3 or 4 minutes alone at the bar before Jessica walked up. Even though I wanted to spend some time checking things out, at least she had a much better, laid-back sense of salesmanship and an unforced, naturally cheerful personality, so off we went to room 4. She wasn't the very best looking girl in the bar, but her enthusiasm and sense of humor offset that. She was good in the sack, as well. The one odd thing was at the end, she had a special piggy bank thing for her bambina back home and she asked for a dollar donation. I thought that was what the $40 & propina were for, but hey, when it's all said and done, what's another buck for your hooker's little' baby? All the club's were really slow, business-wise today. Maybe fewer cruise ships in port today.
i have been here now for 11 days and 11tlg &tld-i"m dying here i need a splint and IV viagra.
thanks zing for the CD"
more to follow
mel
[QUOTE=Zing23] ...
During this lunch, I spot Diana and Marcela (see prev report). Marcela gives me a face like "I thought we were an item, why are you with that puta?", but Diana gives me a nice smile and greeting. Routard's girlfriend spots me and rushes over, eager to talk about him. You don't often see girls in a brothel who you can describe as bubbly, but she was! And yes, she is planning to have a baby by Routard - she told me so ...
-zing[/QUOTE]
Hey Routard, I wouldn't worry amigo, your chica, who apparently you have treated with genuine love and affection, and is bubbly, was most likely just excited about seeing a friend of her "amor" and how she loves you and wants to have your baby some day. All these Colombianas dream of a baby with their "gran amor" (big love) ... pros and non-pros both.
Zing appears to be "un tipo muy chevere" (a cool guy), and he speaks some spanish, may have misinterpreted her words and excitement.
Most of the young Colombianas I know (I'm in Colombia quite a bit) are the same when they're "in love", planning a baby with their man. Every new, serious girlfriend I get tells me the same thing. It's normal.
Good luck! :)
[QUOTE=Zing23] .... We talk about Periera, which is where Juliana and Louisa are from, and she is surprised that I know so much about this obscure town in Colombia ....
-zing[/QUOTE]
Hey Zing, as always, a great report!
My girfriend in Colombia is from Periera also. It's a nice, beautiful little city in Colombia surrounded by mountains. Not really an obscure town in Colombia, it's a very popular area actually.
Taker easy amigo :)
i had a terrible day. probably divine retribution for delivering bad news to routard in my last report and calling it 'good news'. about the only good thing that happened was that I was able to drop off a copy of the Pimsleur English lessons CD (mp3) for Mel's girlfriend.
jenny - defiance - rm 216?
I thought it would be fun to go to Jenny first, instead of hitting Seamans or Carolina at 11am. this was because I had been dropping in to see her in the bar at the end of the last 2 visits, but without doing a session. I stupidly thought that this attention might lead to a better session later when I had more time.
I dithered around killing time for an hour in Philippsburg and ate a hamburger (mistake before sex). Then at 1205pm i entered defiance, no one around except the bartender judy. went in the back and knocked on jenny's door (tallish black girl, implants, used to have long hair, but cut it off). no answer, so I waited a minute on the gate steps, and then she opened the door. she was mostly still asleep. spent an hour with her while she woke up, while her neighbor cleaned their joint bathroom, while she removed the girdle that she sleeps in, etc. big mistake. shattered the illusion that she creates in the bar when she is cleaned up, made up, clothed, etc.
finally she had her shower, was awake, we had romantic music on, but I was just not in lust anymore! note: it was not her fault, she performed very well (bbbj, daty, bouncing asian cowgirl, etc.)
went out to order her some fried chicken and salad from the snack bar (the lunch provided to the girls that day was rice, beans and potatoes - almost no protein at all). When she came across the parking lot to get her food, she looked fantastic (tight thin white miniskirt, makeup, jewelry). Then she tried to convince me to buy her a dress by stripping off her white dress and putting on the new one to model it, right in the middle of the snack bar. I may be a sentimental sap, but I wasn't paying $58 to buy her a dress.
note: jenny is the girl whose name i did not know in previous reports. I got her name by the simple method of asking her to write down her phone number. never had to admit i had forgotten it.
eva - petit chateau - rm 3
I had a hard time deciding whether to go to eva first, or jenny first. i should have gone to eva first. or just gone back to juliana at seamans club at 11am, who I know will be ready to go. both eva and jenny are colombianas, both are nice and sexy, but eva is sexier and kisses better. (tallish, medium build, nice large natural breasts, braces, light brown hair) and perhaps she would have been awake when I got to petit chateau. by the way, the back part of the bar is now walled off with plywood for some more renovation work.
eva was happy to see me. i told her she was the first girl today, but it wasn't true, and it showed. eva did everything a guy could hope for, but it was not my finest hour (or half hour).
i did learn that the girls at this club have NO FREE TIME (like at casa blanca, but unlike carolina, seamans, and defiance). If they want to leave the club, they have to get a guy to pay a bar fine. And even though it is high tourist season, eva was only making enough money to pay her daily room fee and food and expenses. not sending any money back to colombia to help buy her house (she needs $4000). This is her first time leaving colombia to work in a club and she had no one to talk to about her decision or about what to expect at petit chateau or in st maarten.
I saw only local guys in the club on both recent visits. if you go to petit chateau and are nice, you will be appreciated by the girls. in fact, i treated eva too nicely already: she wants my home number so she can call me when she goes to work in curacao, so i can fly down to visit her. another girl told her that Campo Alegre was a better setup for the girls. Eva was planning to go there in august, which i suggested was not the best time of the year (in sxm it is dead sept-oct and i assume curacao is similar).
jacqueline - crystal club
on my last visit, i saw 3 hot young girls at crystal club, so went back there. entered the club and ordered a coke - no sign of the girls. talked to a big, heavy woman from La Romana, D.R. who learned English working as a bartender at the Casa de Campo resort. she had never heard of Jacqueline, and there are only 18 girls working there. but she did offer many times to give me a good massage and suck my dick.
finally spotted Jacquline's girl friend (looking hot and in a hot white dress, but with a guy) - but by now I was depressed, so I left.
diana - carolina - rm 5
walked across the street to carolina, it is now 3pm, bar has 3 girls and 1 guy in it. talk to diana (a wonderful kisser, cbj only, dark hair, implants). told her i needed a girl, paid $3 to the bar, went to her room. delightful girl, eager to please, again great dfk, ball licking, cbj, missionary, and I just lost my erection. too much negative in the day, so i just had no lust.
Today had something to do with the seven deadly sins: I didn't have enough Lust, because I ate too much (gluttony), couldn't be happy with my sure things at 11am and had to wait for a new girl at 12 noon (greed), lay around in Jenny's room for an hour (sloth), got mad at her for being a normal girl instead of a perfect one (wrath), wished I was Mel who had his girl 24 hours a day for 11 days (envy), and thought I could uncover hot girls at the 3 most obscure clubs in st maarten (pride).
-zing
What can I say after 14 days and nights with a wonderful woman?
Except I am still am monger.
When I arrived in sxm, I went directly to Seamans to visit zings girl in room 11 for a massage. I immediately got her out of her routine with a fantastic daty. When she came, I thought she was going to fracture her skull on the wall, wow what a great reaction. I had to wait a few minutes for her to cool off before getting my massage. As advertised, she gives a great massage. BBBJ, cg, and finished in mish.
I then picked up mi amor, and off for blood tests.
I then dropped by Carolinas on the way to my boat to see if Routard was around and to make arrangements for that night. Fortunately he was in the restaurant at Carolinas and we talked.
Do not pass go directly to the boat.
Showers and some world class incredible sex. Routard showed up later and we went off to diner. Up until that moment, mi amor did not realize that routard had been on board with his amor before. Over dinner, Routards date thanked me for some medicine I had given her for a cold sore that she had after Routard had left last time. I was immediately DEAD with my amor. She realized that Routards date could not have been on island for more than 3 months. I was supposedly faithful to mi amor for the last 3 months---so where was I when he was having a humpathon on board? After dinner, Routard and I went our separate ways and I went back to the boat. I still do not remember how I talked my way out of that but it took 2 hours before the sex began.
We usually do not get out of bed before noon so when we got out of the cabin Routard was gone. As the last time I assumed he had a 6 am flight. When we returned later, his cabin door was closed and I did not know if he was on board. I knocked on his door and out popped a smiling face and he gave me big thumbs up. We went back to my cabin and went on for round four of the day. We then went out again and I left a note for Routard and received a nice note when I returned.
Mi amor likes it hot in the cabin and I discovered that when it is warm and there is no cold breeze from the A/C the sex is really better. I find the occasional waft of cold air distracting and now appreciate a hot sex session with the A/C turned way down.
I also had the DJ at Carolinas make me a couple of romantic CD’s and she really liked them.
My original plan was to switch Armors after a week. I made special arrangements to have my previous amor come from Colombia and had gotten her a Visa to visit me for a week and Airline tickets. My current Love is a very smart woman, and I realized that she would figure it out and I would unscrew myself out of two fantastic women. Additionally I was already having my brains fucked out. I felt like a heel, and called my amor in Colombia and told her that I had problems and to cash in the tickets and I would see her in Colombia. I hope to be able to go there with Routard when he goes. Needless to say, she was heart broken. I kind of justified this in my mind as she mentioned money a number of times in her e-mails and when we were last in Phillipsburg I was slightly irritated by her shopping requests, and being soft I bought her a few too many things.
After 4 days, a single friend of mine came to SXM for a few days. He mentioned that my other Colombian Amor seemed to have roving eyes last time we were together. He also said that another friend that had met her corroborated his opinion that she was just playing me. I felt better hearing that, as I felt bad about standing her up (she had to spend 17 hours on a bus from Pereira to Bogotá to get the visa). However, I will still try to get to Colombia to screw my eyeballs out with her.
Getting late more to follow.
[QUOTE=Mel365]He also said that another friend that had met her corroborated his opinion that she was just playing me.[/QUOTE]
I think it's safe to assume that all these girls are playing everyone. Unless you are getting completely free sex with absolutetly no mention of money, you are being played.
[QUOTE=Mel365]What can I say after 14 days and nights with a wonderful woman?[/QUOTE]
Great to read you again on the board Mel! We had no news from you during those 14 days and night, but I guess you had better things to do than going on ISG.
[QUOTE=Mel365] I then dropped by Carolinas on the way to my boat to see if Routard was around and to make arrangements for that night. Fortunately he was in the restaurant at Carolinas and we talked.? [/QUOTE]
At that point, I was not in a good mood. I had just met her again, waiting for her to prepare herself and I was shocked how bad she was looking after 2 months in the brothel's hell.
[QUOTE=Mel365] Routard showed up later and we went off to diner. Up until that moment, mi amor did not realize that routard had been on board with his amor before. Over dinner, Routards date thanked me for some medicine I had given her for a cold sore that she had after Routard had left last time. I was immediately DEAD with my amor. She realized that Routards date could not have been on island for more than 3 months. I was supposedly faithful to mi amor for the last 3 months---so where was I when he was having a humpathon on board? [/QUOTE]
Incredible this typical latina's jealousy from chicas screwing dozens of guys every day. They come up with such a bullshit that you have a hard time to get out of this mess. I had the same experience the first night, when your previous girl had told her we had been previously to Seamens to look for Lorena. Some might think it is faked, but it is definitely not. When they screw with others, it's for their job, when we screw it's for fun and they know it damn well. I remember how bad your amor was doing that night during dinner. My date took it as a personal offense from her, it screwed up the whole relationship between both couples. But it made me realize how strong her feelings are for you.
[QUOTE=Mel365] I still do not remember how I talked my way out of that but it took 2 hours before the sex began. [/QUOTE] again, sorry!!!
[QUOTE=Mel365]I knocked on his door and out popped a smiling face and he gave me big thumbs up. [/QUOTE] Haha, guess what we were doing?
[QUOTE=Mel365]We then went out again and I left a note for Routard and received a nice note when I returned [/QUOTE] Yes, we have had unfortunately few opportunities to discuss as we were both very "occupado".
[QUOTE=Mel365]
I hope to be able to go there with Routard when he goes.[/QUOTE]
Yes, I PM you for that right now.
Great report that brings back all the good memories...
[quote=mel365]I felt like a heel, and called my amor in Colombia and told her that I had problems and to cash in the tickets and I would see her in Colombia. I hope to be able to go there with Routard when he goes. Needless to say, she was heart broken.(she had to spend 17 hours on a bus from Pereira to Bogotá to get the visa). However, I will still try to get to Colombia to screw my eyeballs out with her.[/quote]
Aha, Pereira pops up again in the St Maarten thread! Must be something in the water there, for the girls seem to be very simpatico. From my earlier report:
[quote=Zing23]She is Eva from Periera - about 1.7m tall, largish natural breasts, not thin and not fat - just firm and curvy. Light brown hair. She speaks some English, but she is pleased that we can talk in Spanish - she even teaches me a few new words for the day. We talk about Periera, which is where Juliana and Louisa are from, and she is surprised that I know so much about this obscure town in Colombia.[/quote]
Then Ricker commented:
[QUOTE=Ricker]My girfriend in Colombia is from Periera also. It's a nice, beautiful little city in Colombia surrounded by mountains. Not really an obscure town in Colombia, it's a very popular area actually.[/QUOTE]
Of course Pereira isn't an obscure city from Colombia's point of view, since it has almost 600,000 people and is in the center of the coffee industry. But few foreigners will have heard of Pereira in the way that they have heard of Cali, Medellin and Cartagena. Here is the wikipedia page for Pereira:
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pereira,_Colombia[/url]
And in Spanish:
[url]http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pereira[/url]
My favorite factoid from wikipedia:
[quote]To combat gang violence, in September 2006 several wives and girlfriends of Pereira's gang members started a sex strike called "La huelga de las piernas cruzadas" (the strike of crossed legs), stating they won't sleep with their partners until they turn in their guns and sign up for vocational training.[/quote]
-zing
[QUOTE=Routard]Incredible this typical latina's jealousy from chicas screwing dozens of guys every day. They come up with such a bullshit that you have a hard time to get out of this mess. I had the same experience the first night, when your previous girl had told her we had been previously to Seamens to look for Lorena. Some might think it is faked, but it is definitely not. When they screw with others, it's for their job, when we screw it's for fun and they know it damn well. [/QUOTE] Good point!
There is a big difference: you have a choice who (and if) you screw. They have no choice (as long as they stay in the business).
From their point of view, it is very disrepectful to screw another girl while they are showing you a superior GFE, especially if it happens in their club where all her coworkers will know about it!
-zing
[QUOTE=Zing23]Aha, Pereira pops up again in the St Maarten thread! [/QUOTE]
Zing, something Wikipedia doesn't tell you, Pereira is famous in Colombia for the quantity of brothels and putas. Another phrase in the lexic of Colombians roughly translated is that a girl from Pereira is already laying in your bed before you have the time to ask her to sit down. :D
[QUOTE=Routard]Zing, something Wikipedia doesn't tell you, Pereira is famous in Colombia for the quantity of brothels and putas. Another phrase in the lexic of Colombians roughly translated is that a girl from Pereira is already laying in your bed before you have the time to ask her to sit down. :D[/QUOTE]
Vacation time!!!
[QUOTE=Sxmperson101]I think it's safe to assume that all these girls are playing everyone. Unless you are getting completely free sex with absolutetly no mention of money, you are being played.[/QUOTE]
I gotta agree with SXM, it just seems very hard to believe that these girls would be faithful to you and we as mongers can not expect that. And vice versa, we are mongers, and we have the right to bone as many girls that we want to. I know you guys have GFE with a few girls, but these girls are not in a position to try to catch an attitude because you boned another female in SXM.
Chris H
Pereira,
I had some interesting conversations about chicas from Pereira.
One of my employees from Argentina said that they say that the girls from Pereira learn how to fuck before they learn how to walk, another employee from Ecuador said chicas from Pereira when they learn how to crawl are in the right position.
A Colombian bus driver at JFK said to me that the girls from Pereira are deaf because when you tell them to sit down they lay down. My imported amor is from guess where? Pereira.
Mel
addl info from the first day. i believe the chica in seamans rm #11 was named marta (zing please correct me if i am wrong) on the way in i ran into zing and he showed me a most humorous chica interview sheet. zing you must share this, it was great.
anyway, after routard left my friend came in from new york, smart, single, handsome, and very muscular. he came down for [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord118][CodeWord118][/url], the beach, and whatever came his way.
i had been eating in a local restaurant in simpson bay for some time and there was this really extremely well built , very sexy waitress , from spain working there. being with mi amor she was off limits. however, we were chatting one night over dinner with the waitress and she said she would love to make an ocean passage with us. i said that would be a problem for someone with no ocean experience but we were sailing out for the day tomorrow if she would like to accompany my friend. she said sure. being that there is a bridge opening, she had to be on board at 8am. she was there on the dot. she arrived with another local couple who i invited for the sail. we had a great day as short as it was. oddly enough, my other guest had dated her 3 days prior, talk about an embarrassing coincidence. my new york friend was in lust for her and they continued for a week in one of the cabins.
i barely saw my new york friend and he extended his ticket to be with her.
meanwhile in the master cabin thing got hotter and hotter. we went to the toy store one night and she picked out a rotating bead dilddo with a clit vibrator. we tried it and it sent her through the roof. i also noticed that, like the girl in room 15 at carolinas, . i initiated sideways daty this seems to be much more accurate than the normal daty position. you are perpendicular to her with her legs closed slightly and you work your tong up and down the crack, in this way, it is impossible to miss the target. worked every time with much leche.
we spent many hours in bed one night starting about 12:30 and ending at sunrise.
of course there was always a fantastic wake up call , or for that matter a great lunch too.
she was killing me.
we talked about many things and the fact that she has an incredible body. her waist was so small in comparison to her boobs that i wondered what she measured. she had a tape in her purse and we measured 38 (d) 24 36 with fantastic abs.
i asked her how she was so muscular with that body. firm abs and arms, world class long legs to die for, strong hands, arms and pelvic muscles. she said she works out whenever she can and usually starts with 1,000 crunches. i asked her again i could not believe her but she did it for me in bed one night.
i asked how old her children were she said 18,18,18,18,18,12,8. i said what!!
she had quintuplets. she was in the hospital one day and went to work the next night. what an amazing woman. she showed me the family photos as validation.
she also told me that she was the most popular dominatrix in curacao campo allegra.
not my thing but very interesting to know of her talents. i am a straight sex guy but we had a fascinating talk about what goes on and her clients. mostly professionals and especially lawyers and doctors—i would like to whip a few lawyers myself.
there was once a question about girls never seeming to have their periods. she as other women take a birth control pill to stop the period and use a childs tampon jammed up in a corner so they can have sex even if there is a little blood before the pills kick in.
i dropped a note to zing about spanish lessons and he was kind enough to drop off a disk as well as some music for her. i bought a battery operated mp3 player for $79- and copied down the lessons, she was very thankful for the gift. thanks again zing.
she reads the bible every night and is very religious which seems to be an oxymoron but she is truly devoted and wants for nothing personally. when i asked her what she read she said she usually reads some of the bible and 30 psalms a night. i thought that reading psalms along with her could not hurt. no, i am not born again or religious but her devotion was truly impressive. reading psalms to myself was a form of meditation that i enjoyed. it was a special bond between us. she sat in the corner of the bed with her legs folded under her wearing only a t-shirt reading in deep meditation. what a lovely special sight as i sat on the sofa reading the psalms from my computer. (sorry off the isg subject)
i wired money home to her family a few times . she says she needs nothing just money for her family. she says she neither wants or needs anything for herself i believe her as her room and belongings lack all the toys, cd , players etc that the other chicas have.
when i left, i put $1000- in her hand and said that that was for her to buy herself something. she handed it back to me with a big kiss.
we went back to her habitation and we spent some time together on my last day.
on the way to the airport i called the airline to find out what my flight status was. the plane was delayed 3 hours. what is a monger to do???
off to seamans for leisa rm #11. i wrote her up before . a tiny spinner about 22-23
4’11” very tiny with great boobs. had a fantastic daty which she thoroughly enjoyed. waited for her to cool off and then wonderful bbbj, rcg is world class, cg, mish, and due to low leche a great hj for a finish.
then off to the airport smelling and tasting like pussy. much better than the airplane food. so ends 14 wonderful days and nights.
mel
[QUOTE=Mel365] I believe the chica in seamans Rm #11 was named Marta (zing please correct me if I am wrong) on the way in I ran into Zing and he showed me a most humorous chica interview sheet. Zing you must share this, it was great.[/quote]
Yes, the chica with the great massage was Marta, but I think that she is gone about now.
Below is my "questionnaire" which I created to interview girls at Carolina to replace my amiga Shakira/Kenney. I only used the questionnaire on one girl, Marcela, who Kenney had suggested should be the replacement. Marcela had a good sense of humor and laughing at the questions led to a very enjoyable session later:
El Formulario de solicitud para Reemplazar
Shakira (Kenney)
¿Su nombre? (name)
¿Su edad? (age)
¿Su altura? (height)
¿Su color del pelo? (hair color)
¿Su color del ojos? (eye color)
¿Su sonrisa? (smile?)
¿Son los tetas naturales? (natural breasts?)
¿Es el culo natural? (natural buns?)
¿Qué es su música favorita? (favorite music)
¿Es usted una virgen? (are you a virgin?)
¿Es usted honesto? (are you honest?)
¿Chupa sin condon? (bbbj?)
Su calificación general de Zing es ____ (0 - 9) [your final rating]
I used a magazine as a clipboard and actually filled out the answers to the questions, just like a job interview. As you can see, I like to play with the girls. The questions were just intended to create a connection, they were not serious.
-zing
as you know from previous reports, i usually visit with 3 or 4 girls each time i go to the clubs in st maarten. this time i spent the entire afternoon with eva from rm 3, petit chateau.
in an attempt to do better than my over-elaborate tln experience, i decided to attempt a less elaborate tld (all day) experience. i wanted to visit eva at petit chateau, but it was raining like crazy in st maarten and i thought that the road and parking there might be pure mud. in that case i would just go to carolina and pick another girl - no elaborate plans in advance, just a goal and a strategy of keeping it feeling right the whole time. it was very muddy at petit chateau, but because of the rain there were very few customers and i was able to park on concrete right in front of the building - no mud.
i entered the building, went to the bar, said hello to a couple of chicas and started to order a coke, when eva spots me and gives me a big open-mouthed kiss. very nice for me. but she is sad - her older brother is going in for a biopsy on a lump on his neck, which could turn out to be cancer, or to be nothing. we moved up to the bar at an empty spot and ordered 2 red bulls ($6). i heard all about the brother, about problems, about how glad she was to see me, how surprised she was, ... - a fast, enthusiastic stream of consciousness flow of spanish, of which i understood about 60%.
i pulled out a viagra pill, she looked at it, then figured out what is was, and said - you are crazy. recently an old guy took viagra here with red bull, and he died! the red bull speeds up your heart, and the viagra does the same thing. she forced me to give the red bull away to her roommate and order a water. it has only been 3 times and she is already getting protective of me. i found out that the bar fine at petit chateau is $50 for the afternoon and $150 for the evening. the girls are supposed to be in the bar from noon to 430pm, then they have a break for a nap, dinner, whatever they can do without leaving the property, then are back on duty from 8pm to 4am.
we moved to her room, took a very nice shower together, soaped each other up, slippery hugs, dried off with a towel that i brought for this purpose and because i thought i might take a girl to the beach this afternoon (she only had paper towels for drying before, said her towels were not clean enough). jumped to the bed, good kissing, bbbj, daty, missionary, climax, cuddling while she skipped through the songs on my ipod (i have been on a bachata kick recently and this frustrated her - too much bachata!). $40.
i asked eva if she would like to go to the beach - she said, the multa is expensive. i said, you are special, this one time i will pay the $50. i did not offer anything for her time because she had been complaining about the customers and acting as if she only went with one or two guys a day in order to pay her daily $35 room and board. gave her $50 for the bar and went to the car, waiting for her to change clothes (although in st maarten you could go to the beach with a black, transparent body sock with black thong.
in the car, she asks if we are going to philippsburg beach - i say let's go to orient bay first, then we can go to philippsburg later. as get close to orient beach she notices that we are on the french side and warns me that she is illegal there. she pulls out her visa, shows me it is only valid on the dutch side. i tell her not to worry about it. we go to la salsa beach bar, where kenney took me on our tln (take the turnoff for galion beach and orient nudist resort, then turn left to orient bay. when you hit the beach, the bar is right in front of you, just to the left of the jet ski booth.
we get a couple of drinks, watch the people on the beach, act like tourists, talk, relax. asked for a menu, the girl explained their range of foods in english and spanish. eva's eyes lit up at the mention of shrimp (camaronnes). at petit chateau she has eaten so much chicken that she thinks she is growing feathers. we order two shrimp plates (with fries and salad) - eva takes her time eating, leaving one shrimp for the very end, but cleans her plate.
when we walk on the beach, a not-so-attractive woman walks past us topless. eva does a double take. then there is another, then a group of 5 middle aged american ladies having their first topless experience. she says i can look all i want - she isn't jealous of these ladies! the beach is beautiful, loaded with people and activity; walking the beach makes her feel like a normal girl instead of a prostituta. during all this time, she is opening up to me. i hear about what the girls think about the girl that was murdered by a client last year at petit chateau - yes, they have their own building to live in now where men are not allowed, and they have new security cameras throughout the compound. but the stories have multiplied since the event. they believe that the girl was not really dead when found, but no one ordered an ambulance because the putas are just garbage.
her goal of making $4000 to buy her own place in colombia is a forgotten dream. she has lowered her ambitions to $700 for a computer for her child's education (i had promised to bring the rosetta stone language software, but i forgot). i was too nice to her the first 2 times, so she thinks maybe i am a walking atm - perhaps i could buy her a computer? or give her half the money? i say no, and laugh lightly.
we move on to front street in philippsburg - stroll the boardwalk, take free samples of rum and bailays at the duty free, watch the tourists, window shop, look at cameras (she wants a camera to take pictures of us - i say she should keep focused on her computer and forget about the camera). eventually we head back to the club. but the corner where the traffic light was located, to turn into the pond fill and petit chateau, is closed - they are building a roundabout to replace the light. i turn around and go the other way up toward seamans and past carolina on edge road.
at the club, i ask if we can go to her room, but it is occupied by her roommate and the red light is on. we sit on a stoop and talk and kiss some more. finally the light is off and a young man comes out. as we enter, eva quietly asks her roommate, "was it good, or bad?". she answers "bad" (all in spanish). the other girls are envious of eva, having a nice client like me, but they are still nice to her. at this club i get the sense that they stick together out of shared misery.
in the room, i shower off the beach sand and come back in the room to find eva sprawled naked on the bed. we have some nice casual, relaxed sex and then it is time for me to leave. she has to get out into the courtyard and clean it up (a different girl cleans the courtyard each day and today is her day). by the way, i notice that the courtyard has been redone with new paving stones, but all the physical upgrades don't seem to matter to the girls. eva did not ask for any money for the afternoon at the beach, but i leave her $140 ($40 for the second sex, and $100 for her computer fund).
-zing
note: i asked her about the strike of the "crossed legs" by the women of pereira and she laughed - yes it is true, she said, but the reason everyone repeats the story is because they think all women in pereira are putas. isg wisdom, confirmed at the source.
[QUOTE=Zing23]... Eva did not ask for any money for the afternoon at the beach, but I leave her $140 ($40 for the second sex, and $100 for her computer fund).
-zing[/QUOTE]
You seem like a nice dude Zing ... no wonder these Colombianitas fall in love with you :)
[QUOTE=Ricker]You seem like a nice dude Zing ... no wonder these Colombianitas fall in love with you :)[/QUOTE]
Ever since I started this hobby I have been trying different ways of dealing with the girls. Big tips, no tips, big gifts, small gifts, no gifts, etc. Recently I have realized that what I am doing is learning to control my innate urge to be over-nice to the girls that sleep with me. I married the first one! Now I have an endless supply of nice looking girls that will sleep with me, albeit for a small price. With them I can learn to control my over-generous urges and find a balance where I am nice but not overwhelming. What I am doing is experimenting.
Here is what I wrote recently in a PM when a guy asked me about his reactions and treatment of the girls in st maarten:
[quote=Zing23]i came up with this explanation:
when you are learning to fly a jumbo jet, you use a simulator. when you are learning to cut into the human body, you use a cadaver. as a student, when you learn things, you need a safe learning environment where you can make mistakes without dire consequences.
when guys are growing up, there is no safe environment for learning about girls. everything is a potential explosive mine! st maarten chicas are that safe environment for learning about girls (and yourself). they are going home within 3 months. you are not going to throw away your life to follow one of them. they cannot follow you. ergo, safe.
once you have established a relationship, even though it is with a puta (prostitute), and there are limits to it, she is a real woman, with real reactions and feelings. you can try things with her that might turn out to be very useful with non-putas later. of course this is true in bed, but it is also true in other emotional relationship issues. how to deal with jealousy (your new girl friend in usa gets appointed to neurosurgery at johns hopkins while you are a perpetual resident at an elderly care facility, grrrrr!!, etc.)[/quote]
one thing I have learned in my experiments in st maarten is that if you are over-generous (much nicer than is appropriate to the extent of your relationship and knowledge of a particular working girl), the level of service declines. if you are nice (in small ways that don't cost you much), but don't pay more than is normal and don't buy her expensive gifts, she respects you more and the sex improves. another thing that I have learned is that you can use the same techniques on non-pros, even on your wife. an unexpected massage, a small gift, then boom, next morning she is in the mood.
-zing
Zing,
i know when coming from seamans i turn right off the main road and then
the first left to go to the nudist resort at the end of the road where there is a entrance fee. how do i get to the beach you went to?
i didn't understand your directions .
thanks
mel
[QUOTE=Mel365]Zing,
i know when coming from seamans i turn right off the main road and then
the first left to go to the nudist resort at the end of the road where there is a entrance fee. how do i get to the beach you went to?
i didn't understand your directions .
thanks
mel[/QUOTE]
the road to gallion bay is off the main road, it also goes to the butterfly farm. the road is paved, but not in good condition.
before the butterfly farm you turn left. i think this is the first left on this road.
you drive along a wall, which must be the boundary of the naturist resort. keep to the left and you end up at the beach bars, just to the left of the resort. you don't need to go thru any gates. give it another try....
-zing
p.s. you can also get there the way i did the first 2 times. take the next right turn into orient bay (or the main one, the third) and go down to the beach. turn right, avoid the entry gate into kon tiki (keep right), after kon tiki you will dead end at the final beach bars and the right turn back out again on the road mentioned above.
[QUOTE=Zing23]Ever since I started this hobby I have been trying different ways of dealing with the girls. Big tips, no tips, big gifts, small gifts, no gifts, etc. Recently I have realized that what I am doing is learning to control my innate urge to be over-nice to the girls that sleep with me. I married the first one! Now I have an endless supply of nice looking girls that will sleep with me, albeit for a small price. With them I can learn to control my over-generous urges and find a balance where I am nice but not overwhelming ...[/QUOTE]I've learned the same thing over the years and spending lots of time in Colombia and Venezuela.
Lots of guys try to buy a girls affection with expensive gifts, big tips, etc.
This generally doesn't work and seems to have the opposite effect, the girl will basically see you only as "Senor money bags".
It's very simple really, the GFE experience, I've found, comes from being able to communicate, learning spanish is one of the greatest things I've ever done, and showing compassion to the girl.
Suerte amigos
Are any of the brothels couples friendly? My wife likes to play with women every now and then, is that something that is allowed in the brothels or are they strictly for single men ? Also, we will be staying on Orient Beach, are there any hot spots where the swinging crowd hangs out?
Orient Bay has just a nudist resort but don't expect more. If you are into swinging, book instead here: [url]www.club241.net[/url]. It's a swing club resort on the French side. Regarding the brothels, the most convenient to go with your wife are Seamens and Carolina. I have seen couples entering the bar, have a drink and socialize. Most difficult is probably to find girls that provide lesbian service. Having a trio should be no problem however.
Jimbo,
I believe a few chicas at Defiance go both ways.
Check it out.
Mel
I will be in sxm for a few days starting April 4 . anyone around then?
mel
Hi all,
Have been hanging out here in SXM for a few days and took the opportunity to check out some of the new talent at the clubs.
After spending some quality time shuttling between Defiance, Seamens and Carolina - still find Defiance just a bit lower on the quality scale, though look hard and long enough, you will still find a few pearls in that oyster.
Seamens had some fine new talent. Perhaps the most striking beauty I've ever come across, is Carol (rm 20) Just watching her wander around in heels, short skirt and top is enough to drive one to drink (or vitamin jar)
She is very sweet, and very young (20), and it shows in her performance. Not bad at all, and if you care put in some time and effort, she is open to 'suggestion', and given the right 'stimulation' she came nicely, though not explosively.
Thing about her, is that he body is perfect and flawless, even childbirth was not reflected either surgically or in loss of tightness. She speaks Spanish only, and has a roomate that is not half bad either.
At Carolina, Patricia Rm 1 is a very small (spinner I think Mel calls them), she is 24, much better technique, loves a good massage, and done well, there is no clock watching at all.
Also, Sophie at Carolina -- long legs, dancers body, very bubbly personality, enhanced for your mountain climbing pleasure, with tattoo on left breast. About the best personality of the bunch, and you will not leave without a smile after time with her.
One negative review, should you happen to care at all -- the Crystal Club - just walked in to look around and was accosted by what had to be an Orca, in a a former life. It was not just a 'hard sell', like Casablance has - this would qualify as an assault in many civilized countries. Not saying there are no good ones in there -- but you may need to survive running the gauntlet to get to them. Proceed at your own risk guys. As I was retreating to Carolina's some guy came to me and said - hey, good girls, cheap -- $35 only. All, I can say, is they could not have paid me to stay in there.
That's about it for this report. Think I saw Zing as he pulled into Chateau, dodging the mud puddles. It was pretty quiet there during the day, and that mud lot they have is not much fun after a good rain -- unless you are into mud wrestling I guess.
AB
I have been to casa Blanca a number of times. I usually run into very aggressive big bootied Dominicans, no stunners like at Carolina or Seamans.
The security creeps me out at night and after having a local police officer say he wouldn't go there with a gun I have avoided it.
A little patience at Seamans, Defiance, or Carolinas will pay off. I also believe that petite chateau is up and coming.
Happy mongering,
Mel
The last time I was at Casa Blanca it cost me $45.
Mel
Reporting from sunny and occasionally cloudy St Maarten. After arriving on Friday afternoon and renting a car through Ace for $30 a day we went over to Maho Beach and checked into our room at the Royal Islander Club.
It turned out to be a great choice, 3 bedrooms, kitchen with a living room entertainment area. A huge private deck and hot tub all for $790 a week. Close to the airport our suite overlooks the runway and you can have some fun watching the large jets blowing people over as they commence their takeoff.
Well we did not travel almost 5 hours in a plane to watch planes take off so we immediately drove into the town of St Petersberg to locate the recommendations that we had studied over the last few weeks from the ISG forum.
After jumping onto the Maho freeway which at 5pm on a Thursday is like any other city freeway, a parking lot except on this road you can drive on the grass verge. If you have had the experience of driving in Milan or Paris you can drive down the incoming lane and move on the verge when a car is approaching you.
Finally arrived at Carolinas at 5. 45pm. Strike one, we had not studied the reports diligently enough to remember that this was the free time period when all the girls are resting or shopping. The bar was one third full watching the West Indies play Ireland in the world cup and the bar maid, Anna was from the West Indies so we watched the final 45 minutes of the match cheering for the West Indies and watching the girls slowly returning from their free time to get ready for the 8pm session.
At around 7pm Diana introduced herself an attractive dark haired girl from Bogota with a nice man made rack. Paid the $3 bar fine and hurried down to room 8 where she gave me a CBJ, asked for a BBBJ but no way. Had some DATY dessert which was delicious and finally finished Cowgirl which was ok. No discussion of money before and after she asked for $50. I told her $40 was what I was expecting but she insisted on $50 so I paid her and left.
Not a bad introduction to the mongering in St Maarten. Really reminded me of the good old days in Cartagena when Noches de America was in full swing. Girls would come back to your room for $50 and fuck you silly for a meal and some kindness. 15 years on and Noches is just a memory and has been rebuilt into a beautiful menswear store where I buy shirts and the girls have moved to LDV and tripled their prices. Cartagena has become an expensive overrated mongering destination.
Saturday was a busy day that left no time for visiting the clubs but we did go into The Platinum Club at 11pm for a beer and to look at the girls. Full of beautiful Romanians that strut their stuff and charge $20 a dance topless or $30 naked. No pussy touching but I think if you we prepared to invest some time and a lot of money you could score. We were proposition several times of OVN but decided to invest our monies at the other end of town.
Sunday we arrived at Carolinas at around 11. 15am and there were several girls in the bar including Diana who made a beeline for me and wanted to resume our playbook where we left off. I am not looking for a GFE and so declined telling her that on Domingo I have to abstain from sex. I also asked her how much for a massage and she said $50. She was with a friend Patricia who looks about 20 years old and is very slim and quite lovely. One for the diary I must play with her before I leave.
Then in comes Sophia from Manizales. Dirty blonde hair, small breast but a great personality and a great fuck. We went into room 2 as she said she has the upstairs room and she is not allowed to take customers upstairs. Whether this is true I am not sure but probably will find out over the next couple of days. After paying the $40 I went back into the bar for another 90 minutes to look at the parade of young and not so young girls.
At about 1. 30pm we went over to Seamans that had a few crew members there from Royal Caribbean. We started to mingle with the girls. Enter Ruby another blonde, very trim figure from Medillen who has only been here 10 days. Eager to please, a delicious DATY session when she came quite violently and then a controlled Cowgirl to completion.
Several girls here I would like to know and at $40 a pop it has to be the bargain of modern times. It certainly makes no sense on an Island that charges $10 for a hamburger and $100 for a good evening meal.
Drove up the hill to Defiance and there were a few girls in the bar but none that really turned us on so we decided to come back to the hotel and get ready for the Princess Poker Tournament that runs every Sunday at 6pm. Monday has us full of excitement ready for a full day of mongering in town.
Kk
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For where you are, that price for the room is a steal. How did you score that? I thought it was all timeshare.
What happen to the reports by Routard and I.
Chris H
i dropped a note to the webmaster and any references to the other website were removed.
mel
[QUOTE=Mel365]i dropped a note to the webmaster and any references to the other website were removed.
mel[/QUOTE]
BUt we did not mention or advertise about any other website, I don't even know any other website like this. Its all about the women, and discussing them, you know??
Chris H
chris,
if you used a quote from another post that mentioned the website, that would be deleted. if you did not then i do not know why your post was deleted.
mel
Monday was another great day chasing and being chased in the bar at Carolinas and Seamans.
Defiance has a poorer selection of girls but I am sure if you took the time you could find hidden beauty in a dark corner.
One of the bonuses at Defiance is the trellised snack bar on the left as you drive through the arches into the courtyard. Food is pretty basic but the steak sandwich & papa frites is $7 and excellent. A toasted French stick bun with tomatoes and a sauce. While it is being prepared you can walk across the yard and up the steps into the bar to buy a beer and have a quick look at the talent show on display. A lot of Colombianos but they appear to be the larger and darker variety that you see at the fishing villages in the northern part of Colombia.
After arriving at Carolinas at 11.30am we went to the bar and sat down and I was immediately targeted by a very affectionate girl call Juliana from Cali. Not my type but 20 minutes of fun . She was rubbing and touching all the right places , lots of me amor and the more I said no she worked a little harder to make me say yes. Then in walked Diana and Juliana backed off .
Diana with a perfect man made rack wanted to do the business but I had already told her that I had wanted to meet her friend Patricia. She said look Patricia was occupado with one of the Filipino sailors and she would have to do.
Man made breasts are not my cup of tea, this probably goes back to the early 80’s when I was chasing a hockey mom that wanted to meet me for a private lunch to discuss her little Jimmy’s progress. Lunch it was but the first thing she said after we entered the hotel room was that my breasts are not real. Oh ok , but who cares a fuck when “Uncle Arthur” is standing to attention and ready to do battle. Well time has progressed , we know have laptops, ISG and rubber tits have got better with age, a lot softer and more natural to the touch but you can still tell and they are a lot firmer.
Back to dana we made a pact and exchanged phone numbers and I will meet her for a night of bliss in Bogota when she gets back.
After she left to do the rounds, I was waiting for Patricia to become free, a fairly tall blonde with curly hair came over and introduced herself as Jeanna from Medellin.
One of my favourite cities that prides itself on flowers and attractive girls.
A great rack but looked man made and when I asked which doctor she said these are Jeanna’s ‘au naturel’. With Patricia gone for 20 minutes I had 20 minutes to go and play and have a little fun. Not my usual selection as my preference has always been 90 to 110 lbs and Jeanna would be 125.
Room 14 is Jeannas little paradise, she is the equivalent of the female Mr Clean. The first thing that strikes you in the room is the bed covered with a flowed satin throw and pillows , the chest coved with her toiletries is clean and bottles in place. The bathroom had clean towels and the shampoo bottle in a straight line. Added bonuses because this girl was clean , you know her body would be cleaner.
She was a great fuck very energetic and wanted me to leche over her tits. Kept asking for that, she just loves having them rubbed and squeezed. After a shower and more intimate time she thanked me and wants to spend some hotel time away from the club. As much as I was tempted I had made myself a pact to stay away from the GFE on this trip as you become their property and that stops all the other opportunities that may come along. I had a little fun in the bathroom, I moved the middle bottle of shampoo so that it was out of line on the shelf in the bathroom. I called her and she came in laughing noticing immediately what I had changed. A real perfectionist , would make an amazing housekeeper and I thought maybe later today I would come back and do the deed again.
Back in the club Patricia was already back at work with another older ugly Filipino sailor. I bided my time and waited patiently at the bar for her to finish her business but did not fancy taking sloppy seconds or in this case thirds. I am a lover, not a bim bam thank you mam type of guy.
Its hard to make love to a pussy that has already done a sub four minute mile with a young sailor boy and then a marathon with a fellow that looked like King Kong’s older brother . At around 1.30 she came back into the bar and came over to me and was ready for action. She had the look of a well fucked lady and I made my excuses that I had to be somewhere at 2pm. I still want to go a round with her but in the morning when she looks and smells fresh.
Out of all the girls I have fucked so far only Jeanna actually got into the shower and used soap to get rid of the sweat. The rest of them wipe down stick a douche up their pussy and then go back for the next customer.
I left and went round the corners to Seamans. Lots of customers and a full stable of girls.
Sophia was busy and another blonde Tatinia from Bogota was at my side asking for a red bull for her energy intake. There was a young girl in Seamans the day before that looked so latina , long black hair , slim with a nice moderate rack and a beautiful face (in the eyes of the beholder) but I could not see her and she was the reason to go there.
Tatina made all the promises , told me the young boys were no good and she needed maturity to make her finish. She has a great bum the type you look at twice and then go back for another take.
One of the plastic surgeons great money makers in Colombia , apart from breasts is making the bum bigger to round and fill out the jeans. I know this for a fact because one of my sister-in-laws in Cartagena has an amazing body , great big tits and a remade bum to boot. At Playa Blanca at xmas on the beach she proudly showed the family her new asset in a white bikini .
Room 2 is Tatinas hideaway and we got down to work , another shaved pussy. I used to think a shaved pussy was great but after my asian adventures I really like the Chinese hairy pusses, how tastes and times change.
Tatina loves DATY and to boot screams like a banshee, well almost like a banshee. She has a delicious pussy that has a lump of skin hanging down that after you caress and cajole it becomes bigger and bigger until it is like sucking a piece of raw liver into your mouth. She came and came again making me feel like a warlord or Julius Caesar himself. One of the first girls to return the favor with a BBBJ .
As a bonus she also loves to fuck and has a great tight pussy. Seamans has a 20 minute time frame and at around 40 a mamasan was banging on the door or the equivalent. A great session with a pleasant girl.
Well I had planned to go back for the floor show but after a visit to a nice Italian restaurant and the drive back I decided to hit the sack and get ready for Tuesday.
Good luck and great hunting
KK
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She was my third working girl of the afternoon, and that was why she cried. I said last week that the chicas of st maarten were a safe experimental environment for learning about women - well today I had to decide whether to tell a woman the truth, or tell a white lie.
But let's go back to the beginning.
I started at Seamans Club at 1130am because I wanted to see if my regular Juliana could make me come with a BBBJ (no problem) before she leaves on April 3. Juliana then passed me on to her roommate Gloria while she ate lunch. Gloria was perky with me (although she usually just sits in a corner, waiting for a guy to approach her), she was eager, she basically seduced me in the bar. We went to the room for an hour. I set up my ipod/speakers and asked her to pick some music - she picked andrea bocelli - very romantic. rm 15. she leaves in 2 weeks.
I arrived at Petit Chateau at 230pm and sat at the bar and watched the porn TV, checking out the girls. After 3 minutes, Eva's roommate entered the bar, spotted me, and rushed out again. 15 seconds later, Eva had her arms around me and was kissing me quite passionately. Nice welcome!
We went to rm 3 and set up some music (Marc Antony recent salsa cd, which i bought at her suggestion). I had brought her copies of the Rosetta Stone software for learning English (and French, Italian and Portuguese) - her goal was to save $700 for a computer. But she had never touched a computer before (nor driven a car), so I brought my small laptop with me and showed her how to use Rosetta Stone. I found out that her brother knows computers, so he can install the software and help her. Eva is really excited.
After playing with the computer and talking and kissing and hugging, we progressed to the bed for some passionate sex. Including daty and bbbj and covered full service in several unusual positions. You have to remember that this is my fourth visit to Eva - and last week I barfined her to the beach for the whole afternoon. Basically, she is 32 (which is way over the hill in Colombia, but fine with me), this is her first time as a brothel worker, first time working outside Colombia, and Petit Chateau has been a shock. After 2 miserable months, I show up, pay well, give her gifts, take her to the beach. Spend a lot of time on her pleasure. But I was way too nice to her, too soon.
Naturally, she is in love with me. Calls me her boyfriend when I arrive, tells her roommate I am her esposo (husband), lets me know that she doesn't have a boyfriend or a husband in Colombia (only bad experiences with guys that cheat on her and leave her in tears) and that if I ever get divorced, I can come to Colombia and she will marry me in an instant. She even calls her mother on the cellular and has me talk to her briefly.
But. After Juliana and Gloria at Seamans Club, I cannot come. She works on me a long time, determined, inventive, very sexy. No leche. Finally, she gets suspicious and asks "mucho fucky-fucky for you today?"
At this point I am facing one of my experimental learning moments. I really like Eva - she is natural, she is enthusiastic, she is smart, she is sexy in bed. But I enjoy sex with Juliana at Seamans too - and I have a long history with her, so I went to Juliana first today. I could have lied to Eva, but I decided to be honest. I answered "yes, mucho fucky-fucky". 'With your wife?' "No, another chica."
'No!' She can't believe it. There is real shock on her face. 'Did you kiss her?' "Not like I kiss you." 'Did you go down on her? "Yes." 'Oh my god!'
'Hombres equal' she said (all men are the same) and started to cry.
I was pretty shaken. We talked and I told her my reasons and she said 'You don't understand do you?' And I don't. It would have been okay if I used up all my leche on my wife, but not on other girls in st maarten. With previous girls, the jealousy extended to just their club (don't do any other girls at my club), but I suspect that this girl really wants to love me. One of Routard's confidants, Luisa I think, told him that most girls fall in love on their first trip away from Colombia to work in a brothel.
Eventually I left on reasonably good terms with Eva. Stay tuned for future reports of this soap opera (telenovela) ....
-zing
Hey Zing,
You're a cool guy, but still a rookie when it comes to the Colombiana. Of course that chica Eva loves ya. She may work as a hooker, but still just a girl that thought she found her Principe Azul :)
[QUOTE=Mel365] However, we were chatting one night over dinner with the waitress and she said she would love to make an Ocean Passage with us. I said that would be a problem for someone with no ocean experience but we were sailing out for the day tomorrow if she would like to accompany my friend.
Mel[/QUOTE]Mel,
If you ever need an extra hand I have lots of offshore experience, and am USCG licensed. Several deliveries between Caribbean and New England, and transatlantic as well.
Found this board while I was doing research for my upcoming trip to SXM. I will be there the week of April 9 with my woman. I'm hoping to get away alone for an hour or two while she shops so I have to maximize my time. What's your recommendations for which place I should hit and which girl I should try. I'll let you know how I do.
Thanks
Another day in St Maarten or I should say super St Maarten.
Arrived to Carolinas at around 11.30am and was immediately approached by Patricia, which was the purpose of my trip. I asked her to wait a few minutes while I go into the restaurant and buy a coffee. After a quick coffee I went back into the bar and she was with a sailor so I knew then I was wasting my time and she was probably a Future Shop impulse buy that after a couple of views became redundant to my needs.
A pretty little girl approached me almost immediately.
Laura a 29 year old from Cartagena my home town and when returning to Colombia in June will move back to Medellin. Certainly does not look her age, looks a lot younger with a nice rack and figure.
After a few minutes of delightful chit chat she rapidly began to grow on me and King Arthur. I felt quite horny very quickly so I knew my time would be well spent.
Room 15 is her room and once in side and nude on the bed she proceeded with BBBJ and she would have finished me except I asked her to stop and got down to some serious pussy inspection and a long DATY session. She has a marvellous clit that when aroused becomes about 3/4 " long and light sucking, followed by slow deep licks got her very aroused and she started to move her hips and squeeze her own breasts.
She stopped me because time was running out and I fucked her for some time in three or four positions and then pulled out. "No leche "she asked "you no like". I said of course but I need it for tonight.
She would not take that for an answer, took off the condom and proceeded with mor BBBJ and till I CIM.
I asked her if she finished and she said no but needed a longer time and she would.
Maybe on my next trip I would take her to my room for a TLN which would include hot tub and shower.
Quite an experience, a bright, lively and attractive girl that I gave an extra $10 tip to because of the great service.
We decided to have lunch in the Caroilnas retaurant, the food was basic but good and very inexpensive.
Looking forward to another session tonight.
Kk
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Will be visiting the island for the first time the week of April 9. Plan to get away alone from my woman for a couple of hours while she's shopping so I have to maximize my time. I'm only going to get one shot at this and I want it to be worthwhile. I'm hoping those of you in the know can recommend which brothels I should hit and which girl(s) I should try. I've been reading the Board and I have some ideas but I could certainly use help.
Thanks in advance.
Play safe.
[QUOTE=Jack13]Will be visiting the island for the first time the week of April 9. Plan to get away alone from my woman for a couple of hours while she's shopping so I have to maximize my time. I'm only going to get one shot at this and I want it to be worthwhile. I'm hoping those of you in the know can recommend which brothels I should hit and which girl(s) I should try. I've been reading the Board and I have some ideas but I could certainly use help.[/QUOTE]
Good question. Let's assume that you don't speak Spanish and you can only get away for 2 hours. The most important factor is the time of day:
4am to 11am - nothing available. don't bother.
11am-4pm - Carolina (check Reports of Distinction for picture/directions) or just take a taxi. Individual girls? Very difficult - take names from the last 2 or 3 pages of WSG reports, but you probably won't remember the names in the bar, nor find specific girls. If you don't find anyone you like, go outside, turn right, walk to the corner, walk one block to main street, turn left, enter Seamans Club, begin further research.
4pm to 8pm. Much more difficult. This is the the girls free time. A few may be in the bar, but sometimes none! Try Seamans Club first, then Carolina. Don't be afraid to walk back to the girls rooms and say hello to any girls you see through open doors. If you are stopped by security, say you are looking for Paola (there is always a girl named Paola and at this time of day you can't be too picky, given your schedule; plus, whoever she is, she will be pleased that you asked for her by name!).
8pm-2am. Same as 11am-4pm except that you should not walk from Carolina to Seamans (take a taxi).
2am-4am. If Carolina or Seamans is closed, try Defiance (up the hill at the top, on the right, read Reports of Distinction for picture/directions). Do not walk alone at this time of night.
Pay $40.
Good luck, and give us a report when you get back.
-zing
As I have not heard of many 'regular' places in St. Maarten to find pros on this board, I thought I should mention that I just found that the Bliss club over by the sunset bar is filled with chicas from Carolinas.
KK--I am surprised that you worry about the time you spend in the room. i make it clear before entering the room that time is not important and that i am not here for fucky-sucky. i am here for amor.
it works almost every time. i always stay for longer tham the time limit and if i spend an hour i leave a little extra. if the girl asks for more than i leave (which is usually generous) depending on the service. i pay her what she asks within reason and take her off my list.
The best time to go to carolinas is between 7-8 pm and see what comes out of the back room. they all have to pay at the back desk before 8. i ask them their names and room numbers if i like their looks and check them out at my leisure over a week or so.
mel
Zing,
i am not surprised at her disappointment- lying is always the best solution- she is really looking for a handsome -wealthy -single- virgin to marry her and take her out of her shit.
my other novia from bogota said to do what i must do when she is not around but no kissing or daty. when i was in sxm last bogota called my sxm phone just once to see that it was working and i was on island, then the e-mail started .why are you there without me?? talk about a lot of bullshit--but she bought it.
it was hard with my other colombian esposa there.
with my current colombian esposa,i wouldn't even broach the subject of another chica. she calls me in the USA every day to see how i am and when am i coming back.
my mongering is now done under very private conditions. i will leave her on the boat and go for an errand. i make sure that i bring a bar of soap that i usually use so i don't come back smelling of another brand of woman or soap. these girls have noses like a bloodhound. she is a fantastic woman but i am still after all a hound dog, monger.
FYI one of the girls from defiance went back to Bogota with a dutchman to get married and come back to St Martin to live. he is just a nice hard working roofer that will keep her well, he seems like a nice guy.
ps- thanks for the disks-she is studying every day and actually asked me to speak english to her today.
mel
comments were made about some of the women at defiance- no air conditioning etc. when i am with a chica unless her hair is still wet and just out of the shower , i expect her to take a shower with me. when she is done if she just goes out to the floor for round 2 i take her off my list. a quick douche and a spray of water on the moving parts doesn't do it for me.
both my current chicas are extremely clean.
my current sxm chica (esposa) washes after up every time we have sex.
i was surprised how quickly we went through a bar of soap.
mel.
[QUOTE=Mel365]comments were made about some of the women at defiance- no air conditioning etc. when i am with a chica unless her hair is still wet and just out of the shower , i expect her to take a shower with me. when she is done if she just goes out to the floor for round 2 i take her off my list. a quick douche and a spray of water on the moving parts doesn't do it for me.
both my current chicas are extremely clean.
my current sxm chica (esposa) washes after up every time we have sex.
i was surprised how quickly we went through a bar of soap.
mel.[/QUOTE]
I agree with you on this.
[QUOTE=Mel365]KK--I am surprised that you worry about the time you spend in the room. i make it clear before entering the room that time is not important and that i am not here for fucky-sucky. i am here for amor.
it works almost every time. i always stay for longer tham the time limit and if i spend an hour i leave a little extra. if the girl asks for more than i leave (which is usually generous) depending on the service. i pay her what she asks within reason and take her off my list.
The best time to go to carolinas is between 7-8 pm and see what comes out of the back room. they all have to pay at the back desk before 8. i ask them their names and room numbers if i like their looks and check them out at my leisure over a week or so.
mel[/QUOTE]Mel thanks for the advice. I will certainly try the 7-8pm and note the girls that are coming through the door into the bar. Super advice.
I was hoping to meet up with at least one of the experienced ISG guys during my 4 days but I spoke to a lot of guys at the bar and none of them were members.
I assumed with the notice on the doors of the rooms there was a time limit on the visit although during my evening session last night I stayed close to an hour, and because I did not like the idea of following the boat crew from earlier in the day I walked straight into the shower and Jeanna followed me in there. However they are not the cleanest towels and I think on my next visit I will bring my own towel supply.
Jeanna or Miss Clean as I nicknamed her has to be one of the prizes of the trip and I will fondly remember her efforts to please me at every opportunity and the cleanliness of her room.
Thanks for the work that all of the regular contributors to this thread have made since its conception. My short 4 days enabled me to enjoy my vacation as well as the mongering with a few mistakes, but I will return in the near future for another round.
Mid April I am leaving for China to a trade show ,staying for 10 days and again the ISG has helped me make hotel and travel arrangements with ease.
To ISG and all the contributing members thank you again and until we meet again happy and safe mongering.
KK
[QUOTE=Zing23]....... No leche. Finally, she gets suspicious and asks "mucho fucky-fucky for you today?"......At this point I am facing one of my experimental learning moments. ......I could have lied to Eva, but I decided to be honest. I answered "yes, mucho fucky-fucky". 'With your wife?' "No, another chica."
'No!' She can't believe it. There is real shock on her face. 'Did you kiss her?' "Not like I kiss you." 'Did you go down on her? "Yes." 'Oh my god!'
'Hombres equal' she said (all men are the same) and started to cry.
I was pretty shaken. We talked and I told her my reasons and she said 'You don't understand do you?' ......Eventually I left on reasonably good terms with Eva.....
-zing[/QUOTE]
Zing:
I had an almost identical situation like a few years ago. I am still paying for it. There is a bizarre parallel universe that these girls inhabit. They can comletely compartmentalize their "work" from their private feelings. They can bang multiple customers in one day but it "means nothing" (a quote) to them but you have to be monogamous!! Take a pill and lie down in a dark room to contemplate this discontinuity in the fabric of the universe.
Unfortunately your relationship with Eva will never quite be the same. Sometimes it will seem like it is, and other times there will be an edge to a conversation. You have destroyed her personal dream. And, the situation will get thrown back in your face. Again and again.
The Catholic church coined the phrase "confession is good for the soul" because this gave them the inside intel on ruling their local communities.
My suggestion? In the future, lie. Lie like a bastard. What they don't know can't hurt them.
Good luck!
Polvo
Zing, I agree with Ricker, Polvo and Mel too.
Until now, we tried to be nice and respect these girls just to have fun and GFE sex. There was some occasional jealousy to manage but it had nothing to do with feelings, just an issue between competitors trying to protect their business.
I guess we went too far with our experiments and strategies, we are dealing now with true feelings. Those girls are alone in a foreign country for 3 months, far from their friends and families. For most it’s their first experience in prostitution. They are living a hell and need help. The SXM scene is unique, these girls don’t even have pimps around. They are like any other woman, they need someone to love. Watch the other customers in these brothels, is it that hard to believe that you are that one? It might be just a fantasy to survive during those 3 months and have a better self-estime, but it is not faked, and you know it. Her feelings are far stronger than yours.
Yes, I panicked with the baby fantasy and I lost confidence with my own story. But it was just a female fantasy. At first I wondered if she would still be after me when I left her without paying anything. She had never mentioned it. We are still communicating together on a daily basis through Email, SMS or phone. I was also suspicious and was expecting she would come up with crazy stories and ask me to send money. We have read so many similar stories on ISG warning about this. Yes, she tells me all her problems. But I learned what she was expecting from me. She needs me to listen, not to solve the problems. Yes, she doesn’t need me for the sex (sad for me) neither for money (good for me) there are enough other guys for that. But she needs a confidant, someone to trust, someone to love. Two days ago, she was ill and sent me an SMS asking to call her. She just needed to hear my voice. It made her feel good again.
I have had previous regular hookers, but they had never tried to fake feelings, it was just friendship. They didn’t care when I went with other girls. They all confirmed me that hookers can fuck dozen of times a day without feeling anything and make love right after with the one they love. They make a clear difference between fuck for work (even if it's a friend like I was) and making love. I have had previous mutual feelings with hookers too, but circumstances made that I had never seen them again after. I have no idea how things would have turned out else.
Having a customer’s status is more comfortable, that's why you continue paying her I guess, in order not to feel any guilt or commitment. As someone on the board described it on another thread, the novio is the one who doesn’t pay and receives plenty of SMS. But it’s also the one that is not allowed to have sex with other chicas…Yes, I have not been with another chica in SXM now for three months.
We all hide to our beloved at home our mongering adventures as we know how much this would hurt. If once in a while a chica falls in love, we need to respect that and not hurt her feelings too. It’s a small sacrifice compared to what all these chicas have given to us. We owe this to them.
I'll take your advice and let you know how I do in those precious 2 hours.
Thanks again.
Monday night, I made the rounds. All the clubs were pretty slow with Carolina's having the most customers. I went in Defiance first. Claudia (she's like the Cal Ripken of *****s-she's been there forever) immediately came up, but when I told her I wanted to look around, she very nicely exucsed herself. Girl #2(chuny with braces, not much of a face, either) came up and when told the same thing, just kept yammering away about whatever and stayed glued to me. I couldn't get her to leave, so I left. Went to Seaman's and wound up with Viviana (? ), the sorta dark skinny one with the incredibly long black hair, who looks about 18 (really is 22). Had fun, did the dirty deed, and left. Went back to Defiance, but it was so slow there, that a couple of them had set up bar stools in the middle of the entrance where they could scan (scare away) every person in the parking lot. Plus, Old Clingy was out there walking aorund in the lot. My wheels never stopped rolling and I went to Carolina's to see Val. Before she came downstairs, I had some new girl, maybe the Juliana mentioned earlier, who was alll over me. When I said, I'm hear to see valentina, she would say, "my name isn't valentina, it's juliana". I saw her getting dirty looks from the other girls, as if this were unsportmanlike conduct. Finally, I had to stand up off of hte bar stool so she would get off of me. Them, for the first time in my mongering experience, I saw a couple of guys I knew from the island. That was a little odd. It was like "So, you guys like *****s, too, huh? " After visiting with them, saw Val, did the thang, went home and slept like a log.
[QUOTE=Zing23]
... She was my third working girl of the afternoon, and that was why she cried. I said last week that the chicas of st maarten were a safe experimental environment for learning about women - well today I had to decide whether to tell a woman the truth, or tell a white lie.
-zing[/QUOTE]
I know you guys have a blast running around these casas in SXM, it's like a mini-Colombia for you. That's great!
A lot of these chicas (most) travel off to these foreign places, leaving their family behind to make some sort of money to help make a jump start for a future in Colombia. Work is not easy to find in Colombia, at least work that pays anything, especially for young, un-university schooled chicas.
Anyway, as you've seen, you can easily cross the line from customer to lover to boyfriend.
These Colombianas are famous for being loving and for falling for nice and loving guys ... somethng Colombian men generally are not.
Doesn't matter if they're working girls, they weren't born working girls, they are simply young Colombianas hoping to earn money.
Maybe playing with their feelings for an experiment is not such a fair deal for them. Whether you care or not, is up to you.
I'm not doggin' anyone, just making an observation
Suerte! :)
routard,
Is you amor still in st martin? i thought she returned to Colombia.
i speak to mi amor daily and also receive e-mails from her. I just sent some $$$ to her family in Colombia to prepay my next visit. i know that she would stay with me for free as she has done so in the past, but sending $$ to columbia is better than giving money to a charity . at least i know where my donation is going. i am still a hound dog monger, but i really like the relatioship with mi amor. i will visit as many Chicas as possible (with what remaining leche she leaves me with), but is so easy to love these colombian women , they are truly special.
mel
Thanks for all the feedback on my visit with Eva when I made her cry. Of course you are all right, and I am sorry I made it seem like I was flippant about the girls. I know I made a mistake by not telling a discreet white lie, but since I started with honesty, I decided to stick with honesty. Eva will be going back to Colombia on April 10 and I can be honestly faithful to her until then. She says sex with my wife is no problem and what I do after she leaves is no problem either. I thought I would bring you up to date.
Today I spent another 5 hours with Eva and there were no more tears, but did I make things better or worse? I am not sure.
I arrived at the clubs without my standard bag of tricks (music cds, amall stuffed animals, internet news from colombia, small jewelry gifts), but with a surplus laptop from my office in the trunk of my car.
I went straight to Le Petit Chateau and walked down the bar to Eva. She lit up, but we both had a hesitant look - "are we okay?" (read previous reports or none of this will make sense). She isn't the most beautiful girl in St Maarten, not even the most beautiful at Petit Chateau, but she is pretty, her body is in perfect condition, she is a grownup, and she is fresh and open. When I first met Eva 2 weeks ago, I was very attracted to her, but my heart was saddened by the conditions she was living through.
Today she introduced me to her friend Maria, then told me that the other girls were starting to be mean because she had a boyfriend. We went straight to room 3 so we could talk without the loud noise in the bar. She mentioned that she was waiting for the results of her brother's biopsy - still does not know if he has throat cancer or not. She asked when I arrived in St Maarten today and what I had been doing? No other girls? I answered honestly - no sex since our previous time together and I came straight to you after running 2 errands. We showered and cleaned up, then lay down for some serious kissing. I opened myself up to possible embarrasment by telling her we would try it without Viagra and see what happens. I thought perhaps I didn't need it anymore, but the delay after BBBJ to put on the condom was enough to soften me up and make it difficult to have satisfactory sex. I popped a V and told her we would need 15 minutes for it to kick in. While we waited, she played with me and I played with her (DATY, digits). Eventually, everything snapped into place and we were off to the races. The sex was as as good as the last time, in spite of my making her cry. However, honesty to ISG requires me to say that she is not the hottest fuck I have ever had in St Maarten (experience does bring some benefits).
At the end of my first visit, which was good and would probably have led to a perfectly enjoyable, normal client-provider relationship for her remaining month in St Maarten, I did something very sentimental, but probably not smart: I gave her a $59 MP3 player loaded with 15 albums of latin music (aventura, rosana, juan luis guerra, juanes, shakira, etc.). It was way too soon for such an extravagent gift; it should have been at the end, as a parting gift. On subsequent visits, more thoughtful small gifts (after 18 months of visiting the girls and reading ISG and learning Spanish and learning about life in Colombia, I know what will be appreciated), then a barfine and an afternoon at the beach, then copies of language software. She had every right to build romantic fantasies about me.
This time I brought Eva a used laptop that her daughter (and she) can use to learn english/french/etc and to learn computers. I had already decided to do this before the last visit when I made her cry, so it wasn't a makeup gift. I decided that I couldn't hold it against her that I made a major strategic blunder. She asked if I remembered what I had suggested the last time (before our blowup), and I asked if she was ready, then went out to the car to get the computer (transported in a bag from one of our boutiques so that it wasn't obvious in the bar what it was). Back in her room, we unpacked it and I showed her how to play music from the hard drive, how to learn the mouse with solitaire, how to play pinball, and a couple of standard Windows techniques. She noticed the brand and recognized it, "this is a good brand!" she said. I made her do all the work on the keyboard, so she would have a chance of remembering some of it.
After an hour in the room, we re-wrapped the laptop and hid it under a table. Then we went out so that her roommate could use the room for a client. We had an orange juice in the bar, we sat in the courtyard and talked, we watched the red light on her room to see when the client was done. She asks me "Has she been in there 20 minutes yet?" 'No - only 10 minutes - be patient.' Finally the light goes off and we are back in the room as the guy walks out. I should mention that the other girls in the bar and the patrons also have been watching this and now think that Eva must be the hottest chica on earth! Later a young local guy asked me if she was a good fuck and told me his uncle owned the bar.
This time I taught her how to play a CD (I had a CD of English ballads for that purpose), and how to play a movie (I had the DVD 'Simply Irresistable' with Spanish sound track) and how to switch to the International keyboard for typing Spanish. We spent another hour in the room - she learned very quickly, although not as quickly as a child will. At last we had to leave because her roommate is a good worker and would need the room again. Eva did not want to leave the computer in the room, she didn't trust the roommate or the clients. But her private sleeping room is locked until around 5 or 6pm when the girls get their break. She talked the bartender into letting her have the key for a moment so she could put her gift in her room - the bartender says - 'you alone, no guests!'.
Then we sat in the courtyard and talked some more. We are now talking more about our lives, spouses, family, various problems small and large, fun things too. she is on the cellphone to colombia, trying to find out about her brother. very tense. she says she really doesn't want to work today. is it possible i can pay bar fine and we can leave. no money changed hands after our 2 hours in the room unrtil now.
okay, we go to bobby's marina for lunch. we aren't the same as before, the romantic haze is gone, but we are starting to give each other our stories, to understand each other better. eva says that no one has ever given her a gift like a computer before in her entire life. i can see that she is somewhat overwhelmed (is this a dream?). i point out to her the things she will need to do in order to take full advantage of this tool, for herself and her daughter. She asks if I could come to visit her in Curacao if she went to work there. I could stay in her room for 30 days if I wanted to. Last time she told me that the girls have more flexibility there than in SXM, but since then she has learned that the customers are basically the same guys as in SXM, and she doesn't like the local guys (and they aren't that attracted to her because her bum is not that big!). I don't want her going to Curacao on my account - I tell her the truth - I won't be able to go there - in fact, there is more chance I could swing a vacation to Colombia than Curacao, and that chance is small.
We look at the huge cruise ships and I learn a new word 'escapado' - she says we two could runaway, escape on the cruise ship. We drive around town while I do my remaining errands. She gets philosophical - tells me that a billionaire faces the same fate with cancer as the poor person - she doesn't need to be rich. she can be perfectly happy on $150 a month in Colombia. Finally we return to the club. It is quiet. As we go back to her room for the third time, the girls look at me like I am crazy. We have sex for a second time, but now it is like with a real girlfriend. With a pro, she is "always in the mood". But a real girl is not in the mood when her brother is facing death and can't get an answer out of the doctor (why do these tests take so long?). She has a headache from the stress and the worry. She does her best to satsify me, but there is no satisfaction for her. Afterwards she asks me for a massage and to rub the headache out of her head.
I learn more about the business at the club: girls can't put anything on the walls of the new work rooms - or they pay a fine - so there is nowhere to hang your clothes. If a girl uses her cellphone at night, she pays a fine. There are fines for everything. At night, the girls have to pay $10 to the club each time they take a guy to the room. During the daytime, they get to keep everything for themselves. last week a girl went out for the night with a local guy, salida (bar fine). she agreed to do the whole night for $100. he took her to his place, fucked her a couple of times, then brought in his 2 buddies and told her to fuck them. she tried to say no, this was not our deal, but he had a gun, she was very afraid.... when she finally returned to the club, she found that she had been given an empty envelope - no money at all.
Eva tries one more time to call her brother - but she has run out of credit. I am nice, but she has others to worry about. we walk out to the car, kiss, and she heads for the minimarket to recharge her cellphone. I don't know what you guys think, but I am playing it out the way that feels right to me.
-zing
[QUOTE=Zing23]Thanks for all the feedback on my visit with Eva when I made her cry. Of course you are all right, and I am sorry I made it seem like I was flippant about the girls. I know I made a mistake by not telling a discreet white lie, but since I started with honesty, I decided to stick with honesty. Eva will be going back to Colombia on April 10 and I can be honestly faithful her until then. She says sex with my wife is no problem and what I do after she leaves is no problem either. I thought I would bring you up to date.
-zing[/QUOTE]Zing I can only speak for myself but I know if I lived on St Maarten or was a frequent visitor , I would certainly end up with a GFE because the relationship would be far more rewarding than the constant change that tends to happen now.
I can see with the 4 club locations it probably could work that you have a real honey in one and then frequent the other locations for the variety.
You have made a commitment with Eva until April 10th and then you are home free. That is a decent honourable position to take and I respect you for that.
However I have seen it dozens of times in Cartagena when a girl latches on to a guy from overseas , does not matter from where as long as he has some cash flow and then is on the cell phone complaining of no money, mothers sick and other hardships. As soon as the guy has gone she is seeing other guys and has the added income coming in from overses from her boyfriend.
Good luck with the solution
KK
Nice present there, Zing! I too would watch out if the problems with her brother turn into her needing money to bury him, etc. I know you wouldn't fall for that though.
zing,
i know how you feel. i too have been mongering looking for something. after much introspection , it is not fucky fucky, even though i am still a monger at heart. I could never be faithful. I am fortunate to have my two colombian loves and still get a chance for some mongering. It is so nice to wake up to a warm body entwined with mine just waiting to screw my brains out for breakfast. Crossing the line is not so bad as long as i can still get in a little mongering. Enjoy Eva and remember if confronted Lie like the true gentelman you are.
mel
[QUOTE=Zing23].......We have sex for a second time, but now it is like with a real girlfriend. With a pro, she is "always in the mood". But a real girl is not in the mood ........She has a headache from the stress and the worry. She does her best to satsify me, but there is no satisfaction for her. Afterwards she asks me for a massage and to rub the headache out of her head.....[/QUOTE]
Zing:
Lo siento!! You have crossed the dividing line and entered the realm of Monger Hell. You now have a great girlfriend, who will work when you are not there (but with your knowledge) and give other mongers "great sex".
But the supportive you, will now get the girlfriend / wife sex. It is likely to become not as frequent, and not as exciting as it was!! And, the nice guy that you are, you will probably tolerate it (while whispering to yourself "What the fuck....why me....I need the old sex"???!!).
You will always be able to mentally visualize "the room", the sights, the smells, the light, and what you did in it. Then in a rictus of agony you will picture some other bastard in the room enjoying Eva, or treating Eva like shit.
Be prepared for the emotional roller coaster that you are about to ride!!
I fear this is our purgatory.
Suerte
Polvo
[QUOTE=Polvo]But the supportive you, will now get the girlfriend / wife sex. It is likely to become not as frequent, and not as exciting as it was!! And, the nice guy that you are, you will probably tolerate it (while whispering to yourself "What the fuck....why me....I need the old sex"???!!).[/QUOTE]Yes, I had asked myself these questions already, but as it is only for 2 weeks, I can handle it. I have had this same thought with other working girls that I have become friendly with. And I even discussed it, from a different direction, with Eva herself! We talked about how marriage seems to eventually kill passion and romance - but the sentence is not for 2 weeks, but for years.
Just because we know these things does not mean that we can always avoid them.
-zing
[QUOTE=Kit Karson]
However I have seen it dozens of times in Cartagena when a girl latches on to a guy from overseas , does not matter from where as long as he has some cash flow and then is on the cell phone complaining of no money, mothers sick and other hardships. As soon as the guy has gone she is seeing other guys and has the added income coming in from overseas from her boyfriend. [/QUOTE] I have read enough ISG reports to know that Moneygram hell is a common ending. I don't give the girls my phone number, and if I do call Eva when she gets back in Colombia it will be on a disposable cellphone SIM, not on my regular phone. If the requests for money start, I throw away the SIM. With no hard feelings. It is just human nature.
-zing
I received the following request in a PM:[quote]I read with interest about the music you loaded onto an MP3 player. You mentioned 15 albums including (aventura, rosana, juan luis guerra, juanes, shakira). I need to increase, actually start, my collection and appreciation of the music in support of our hobby and wondered if you could give some additional names.[/quote]Below are the best 15 latin cds in my collection (4.5 GB of MP3 at the moment) for sharing with a colombiana. They will just fit on a 1GB mp3 player if you delete a few lesser songs.
There is some latin music that I like (old cuban for example) that the chicas do not usually like. And there is a lot of recent latin pop music that they enjoy, but I don't enjoy as much. These are not the best 15 latin albums of all time, just the 15 that I have stumbled across that created a cross-cultural connection (some were recommended by chicas, a couple were given to me as gifts by chicas, most I found by trial and error):
[url=http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000053VJI/]Juan Luis Guerra - Grandes Exitosde (reissue)[/url]
[url=http://www.amazon.com/K-O-B-Live-Aventura/dp/B000JJ4W60/]Aventura - K.O.B. Live[/url] (pop bachata, the set with 2 cds and a dvd)
[url=http://www.amazon.com/Valio-Pena-Marc-Anthony/dp/B0002IQNV0/]Marc Anthony - Valio la Pena[/url] (salsa)
[url=http://www.amazon.com/Andrea-Bocelli-Amore/dp/B000CC1TGA/]Andrea Bocelli - Amore[/url] (he is italian, but this cd is in spanish)
[url=http://www.amazon.com/Grandes-Exitos-Rosana/dp/B000B9O91Q/]Rosana - Grandes Exitos[/url]
[url=http://www.amazon.com/Serie-20-Exitos-Camilo-Sesto/dp/B000005LFS/]Camilo Cesto - Serie 20 Exitos[/url]
[url=http://www.amazon.com/Putumayo-Presents-Colombia-Various-Artists/dp/B00005LN1V/]Putumayo Presents: Colombia[/url] (salsa, valenato, cumbia)
[url=http://www.amazon.com/Escucha-Laura-Pausini/dp/B0006419R8/]Laura Pausini - Escucha[/url]
[url=http://www.amazon.com/Ones-CD-DVD-Limited-Package/dp/B00006JJ6S/]Selena - Ones [/url] (tejana pop)
[url=http://www.amazon.com/20th-Century-Masters-Millennium-Collection/dp/B000AOF9UM/]Best of Soraya[/url]
[url=http://www.amazon.com/Celia-Cruz-Friends-Night-Salsa/dp/B00004L8EN/]Celia Cruz and Friends: A Night of Salsa[/url] (or any other greatest hits cd)
[url=http://www.amazon.com/Fijacion-Oral-vol-1-Shakira/dp/B00097A5HW/]Fijacion Oral vol. 1 - Shakira [/url] (Although Shakira is from Colombia, she is not as popular with Columbians as with Americans, perhaps because she has been singing mainly in English recently. Get the Spanish album only.)
[url=http://www.amazon.com/Mi-Sangre-Juanes/dp/tracks/B000A2H07E/]Juanes - Mi Sangre - Limited Edition[/url] (Rocker from Medellin, his most recent album, with live performances too)
[url=http://www.amazon.com/Hasta-el-Fin-Monchy-Alexandra/dp/B00064AE2O/]Monchy y Alexandra - Hasta El Fin[/url] (bachata)
[url=http://www.amazon.com/Lo-Mejor-Joan-Sebastian/dp/B000001YDJ/]Lo Mejor de Joan Sebastian[/url](latin country music, 'Lo Mejor' means 'The Best')
Click the links to go to Amazon. There is deliberately no reggaton on this list. Most of the chicas do like reggaeton and I can enjoy it too, but after listening to it all day in a club at high volume, there is no need to listen to it in private. Also missing from this list is Gloria Estefan - most chicas say they don't like her, even though I do. The reason is probably that most of her hits are in English. This CD contains her best romantic songs in Spanish and when a chica will listen to it, they like it:
[url=http://www.amazon.com/Amor-y-Suerte-Exitos-Romanticos/dp/B0002XL2B6/]Amor y Suerte: Exitos Romanticos - Gloria Estefan [/url]
-zing
Thanks for providing this information. I am going to add some of these.
Over the past 9 months I too have been building my collection of Latin music on my MP3. It all started with a recommendation from Ford to make sure I have Latin music in the room to enhance the experience. He even gave me a mix CD he made to start things off. Some of the best advice I have ever received Since then I have been adding to the collection. IT WORKS WONDERS! Many times we start with dancing and drinking and and keep the music on for great sex. Other times I have been treated to a series of very erotic lap dances, finishing in great sex. (The fantasy we all have in US strip clubs)
Two recommendations:
Christina Aguilera Spanish Album - The Spanish version of Genie in a Bottle is my lead song. I have not found a single girl who does not like this.
Ricardo Arjona - Not sure which album. He has a lot. I just copied some from my novia in Panama. I went to his concert in Panama. The chicas absolutely go crazy over him.
I do have reggaeton in my collection. Some chicas specifically ask for it and who am I to disappoint. I just keep it in a seperate playlist.
Ok, so I haven't been mongering in a long time. Almost two weeks. My regular over at Seamans (Paola) called me wondering where I was, saying the usual chica shit (I miss you!). So I went by tonight almost at closing time and asked her if she wanted a TLN. She wanted to charge me $200 for a TLN from 3:00AM till 9:00AM. I said no way, and was relatively offended, etc, and then told her I needed to go to the bathroom and just left her.
I then went over to Carolina's and there was some fight there or something, so I went in and I went over to Tatiana, from Bogota. Her body is a 10/10, and face is a 7 or 8/10. Body is absolutetly perfect. Brought her back, CBF, CFS, etc. Nice, nice.
Hey regular traveler, please refrain from using the word Fantasy, "dream" would be better.(lol) The use of music, candles, etc... goes back a long way. I have found that alot of girls like starting with a good "club mix" when they first get back to the room for drinks and strip tease, then after shower time we role into some good spanish music for fucking. Even Ford has incorporated this into his collection.
Hey its been awhile since I visited the dutch side! Maybe a return is in order for early summer.
Gents:
American Airlines are running some "specials" from Miami and Fort Lauderdale to a lot of the Caribbean starting from April 9th. (eg $158 MIA/SXM return).
Not that American Airlines are special, though!
Suerte!
Polvo
[QUOTE=Sxmperson101]Ok, so I haven't been mongering in a long time. Almost two weeks. My regular over at Seamans (Paola) called me wondering where I was, saying the usual chica shit (I miss you!). So I went by tonight almost at closing time and asked her if she wanted a TLN. She wanted to charge me $200 for a TLN from 3:00AM till 9:00AM. I said no way, and was relatively offended, etc, and then told her I needed to go to the bathroom and just left her.
I then went over to Carolina's and there was some fight there or something, so I went in and I went over to Tatiana, from Bogota. Her body is a 10/10, and face is a 7 or 8/10. Body is absolutetly perfect. Brought her back, CBF, CFS, etc. Nice, nice.[/QUOTE]
Is this the same Tatiana that was in campo last december room 211?
Dexgo
I think thats becuase its Easter weekend and all the girls will be going home for the holiday.
Zing, is the Eva you are referring to at Le Petit in room 3 tall, with her hair pulled back in a pony tail. Wears braces and has kind of an impish/Dr. Suess like character face? I was with her last week. 30 bucks during the afternoon. Left her with a gift and saw her at the bar a few more times during my visit, but didn't go back with her. She's about the best looking thing at that club. Is she the one you refer to in your posts?
I did some half-assed mongering this weekend. I think I went out of sheer boredom as I can't remember the Friday night girl's name from Defiance, and last night I never got around to asking the chica's name at Seaman's. Just sort of a poke-and-go encounter. Usually, Carolina's is a very busy joint, but at least when I was checking things out, Seaman's was packed to the rafters, while Carolina's was only moderately busy. The assault alarm rang a couple of times while I was at Seaman's, so I guess there were some macho hombres loose last night. Defiance had a decent crowd, though it seemed like not as many girls were working the floor.
were the girls any good that you visited?
i am putting my to do list together and am looking for leads starting this wednesday. what did they look like?
mel
[QUOTE=Mel365]were the girls any good that you visited?
I am putting my to do list together and am looking for leads starting this wednesday. what did they look like?
mel[/QUOTE]aw gee. I'll pay better attention next time. I wouldn't go out of my way to be with either one again.
The Defiance chick was way darker than I usually go-said she was a colombian from Cali; pretty in the face, decent body, though plenty of junk in the trunk, as well as natural boobs.
As for the Seaman's girl-oh crap, let's see. Short, average Colombiana complexion, some blond streaking in her wavy hair, decent natural (maybe) boobs, liked to laugh, didn't seem too perturbed when the help alarm went off down the hall. Okay, I just described 75% of the girls at Seaman's. She has been here one month. She was the more enjoyable company and better looking of the two.
[QUOTE=Clubted]Zing, is the Eva you are referring to at Le Petit in room 3 tall, with her hair pulled back in a pony tail. Wears braces and has kind of an impish/Dr. Suess like character face? I was with her last week. 30 bucks during the afternoon. Left her with a gift and saw her at the bar a few more times during my visit, but didn't go back with her. She's about the best looking thing at that club. Is she the one you refer to in your posts?[/QUOTE]
that's the one!
there is one other girl with black hair, shorter, lighter skinned, who is better looking, but not as friendly looking (have not tried her, nor do i know her name- wears a red halter top whenever i see her).
-zing
Quick update on the brothels.
Le Petit. Close to downtown Philipsburg. Go during late afternoon and avoid the room key fee. One or two decent choices. Open courtyard. $2 Presidente's and 30 bucks for 20 minutes. 2 star rating.
Carolina's. Further up the road through the dump. On right hand side. Restaurant and then separate bar. $2 Presidente's, 3 dollars for the room key, and 50 for the chica. All Columbians. Best looking girls on the island. 5 star rating.
Crystal Club. Across the street from Carolina's. A dump. Avoid it! 1 star rating. No further comments warranted.
Seaman's club. Enough's been written here. Great club. 2 dollar beers. 40 bucks in the afternoon. 4 and a half star rating, simply because I think Carolina's has some hotter girls working there.
Defiance. Up the road from Seaman's. Hit or miss here. 2 dollar beers. 40 dollars during the day, add room key fee to this amount of approx. 5 dollars during the evening. Very dark at night in the club. What looks decent at night in the dark, you'll be surprised what it looks like in light during the day! Avoid the blonde Claudia with the long hair and who wears an Ipod device trying to learn english. She's a clock watcher and has you leaving her room before you even get your clothes off! 3 star rating
Sunset Bar. They just remodeled the place. Or changed the interior layout. Mostly locals. Right up there with Crystal Club. Terrible selection of chica's in my opinion. Avoid it, unless if you want to feel like you're in Santo Domingo instead of St. Maarten. 2 dollar beers. 1 and a half star rating.
Casa Blanca. Last brothel before French Border. I actually like this place, but the girls are extremely aggressive, it can be very hot inside, and during my last visit, the selection of chica's did not interest me one bit. 3 star rating. 40 for chica and 6 bucks for room key. Have never had a chica during the day.
If you have any specific questions, let me know. Also, stayed in Philipsburg at a place for $40 bucks a night. Let me know if you want more trip details. I've been to St. Maarten over a dozen times and know the island quite well. If a rich uncle has left you with millions. Then check out the new Westin Hotel on Dawn Beach as a place to stay for a base of operations. A room there will set you back close to $400. 00 for a night. 40 bucks or 400. Imagine what fun you can have with that $360. 00 left over from staying in Philipsburg? . Around 9 chicas!
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[QUOTE=Vaginas999]I think thats becuase its Easter weekend and all the girls will be going home for the holiday.[/QUOTE]
Christ, I forgot about that!
Thanks!
Polvo
[QUOTE=Vaginas999]I think thats becuase its Easter weekend and all the girls will be going home for the holiday.[/QUOTE]So does this mean I have to beat off all weekend?
Clubted! Great report! Thanks for the info. I'm planning on visiting SXM the first week of May. I have been trying to find some cheap guesthouses. My only requirements are that they're clean. You mentioned some for $40! That sounds great. Can you post some info or email me? Also looking for a cheap reliable car rental car company. I used Charlie's in Puerto Rico. They were excellent, and quite a bit cheaper then the name brands.
Thanks in advance!
Visiting St. Maarten for a week. Didn't even know about the chicas until I stumbled across a page from this site searching for things to do in the evenings (I'm here solo)! Thanks to all who've posted great info about the local joints. Seaman's, Carolinas, etc. It took me quite a while to find Carolina's, so I thought I might offer up some directions if anyone else has the same problem. Easy directions. If you're heading out of Seaman's, take a right onto the main road, then take your very first right (see the St. Maarten Park sign). Make a left a couple hundred meeters down the road. Carlinas is in the first string of buildings on your left (before you get to the public sports complex on the left).
Anyway, I've hit both joints the last two nights. Seaman's had about 15-20 girls of all shapes and sizes, although most were slender to average (no big girls for my cubby chasers! ). Carlina's had about the same number of girls and I'd say same attractiveness.- everyone has their own preferences, and I'm sure most guys would find something they like!
Checking out the posts here it seems like Carolina's is the current favorite. It's definitely a nicer place, but in my opinion Seaman's has far more character. It's definitely a bit run down. Ok, a lot!. But it's a cool joint. There were lots of locals when I was there, but no issues. They just want to drink beer and watch really bad "strip" shows for free when the girls have to go on stage.
Checking out Casa Blanca tonight.
Went to see Eva at Petit Chateau when they opened at 12:05. Last time together as she is going back to Pereira Colombia soon. 2 hours in rm 3, started with excellent sex (she seems to have 95% forgiven me for breaking her fantasy), taught her to make and copy cds, use ms word, other stuff on computer, talked, showered together, listened to music, sex again for a long time. When we were done she said don't be sad that this is the last time. be happy. said she was happy that she met me while in st maarten and insisted on an upbeat parting at the door.
since I have said good bye to eva, my fidelity promise was over, so I went to carolina to check out the talent. mostly new girls to me. talked to natalia (rm 12) and sofia (rm 18?). bought them both orange juices. natalia is from pereira, so we had lots to talk about. she was a bit aggressive, so I made eyes for sofia and hugged her. but she had to go do something (it is doctor day), so I was left with natalia. after some laughing and talking, she opened up and we went to her room (#12. it has been painted and fixed up since Beatriz and Luna used to have it).
set up ipod/speakers for romantic music. Gave me a very nice massage, then I gave her a massage. she was quite surprised, and was purring after the massage. service got more personal after that. she got on top and began kissing my body, caressing me, then kissing me on the lips. natalia is young, brown hair, nicely built, not skinny but not fat.
cbj for me, then i went down on her. quite a long daty and she surprised herself (and me somewhat) with a major orgasm. cfs, very nice, shower together afterwards, nice girl.... one hour. $80. no present for her, because i went to see eva and didn't take my bag of gifts, etc. but i think the massage and daty and $80 were presents enough, because on the way to the bar and in the bar and as we parted, she kept saying gracias, thank you, gracias para todo. and she asked me, "what was your name?", since she didn't really pay attention when I first told it to her.
left me with sofia while she went to see the doctor for her checkup. i will not repeat unless she is willing to do bbbj next time. but sofia is working on me for next time anyway (dirty blond, skinny, braces, kind of fun, very tense muscles).
-zing
[QUOTE=Zing23]Since I have said good bye to eva, my fidelity promise was over, so I went to carolina to check out the talent. mostly new girls to me. talked to natalia (rm 12) and sofia (rm 18?).
Left me with sofia while she went to see the doctor for her checkup. i will not repeat unless she is willing to do bbbj next time. but sofia is working on me for next time anyway (dirty blond, skinny, braces, kind of fun, very tense muscles).
Zing[/QUOTE]Zing,
When I was there last week I had a session with Sophia. I would like to know if she is still in an upstairs room and has to borrow a room downstairs ?
Sophia from Manizales. Dirty blonde hair, small breast but a great personality and a great fuck. We went into room 2 as she said she has the upstairs room and she is not allowed to take customers upstairs. Whether this is true I am not sure but probably will find out over the next couple of days.
Has anyone been to Private Club in Simpson Bay? What type of club is Private Club? Are there any hotels for under $80.00 in Maho or close to the airport around April 30, 2007?
I'm staying at the Westin, and I still had 9 chicas!
[QUOTE=Sxmperson101]I too would watch out if the problems with her brother turn into her needing money to bury him, etc. I know you wouldn't fall for that though.[/QUOTE]I forgot to mention in my final Eva report, that Eva's brother got his biopsy back from the lab and the lump on his throat is not cancer, he doesn't need an operation, and all is well. So Eva was just a sentimental 32-year old, Colombian girl, not a scheming puta that was preparing me for future money pleas.
-zing
I did an overnight with a cutie from Carolinas two nights ago. If I head back there am I going to have a pain trying to hook up with a really cute blonde I want to try next? The first girl I experienced at Seaman's wouldn't leave me alone the next time I went it, and none of the other girls would come near me. Had to have a second round with the first. And her friend. Haha I figure an overnighter would be even more of a pain?
[QUOTE=Zing23] So Eva was just a sentimental 32-year old, Colombian girl, not a scheming puta that was preparing me for future money pleas.
[/QUOTE]
Not our chicas!
There are plenty of such stories on the other threads, but no one has ever reported such kind of things in SXM with our beloved Colombianas, even after a few risky "limit checks" made by your favorite ISG reporters.
[QUOTE=Zing23]I have read enough ISG reports to know that Moneygram hell is a common ending. I don't give the girls my phone number, and if I do call Eva when she gets back in Colombia it will be on a disposable cellphone SIM, not on my regular phone. If the requests for money start, I throw away the SIM. With no hard feelings. It is just human nature.
-zing[/QUOTE]
Just call them using an international calling card, caller ID doesn't show your number. No need for disposable SIM really.
Punjiman. Here's some info on budget properties in the Philipsburg area. Only warning is watch your vehicle. Never leave anything inside, even in truck. High incidence of break-ins and stealings of vehicles in Philipsburg. Rental cars have an are in the first digit of the license plate which doesn't help the situation.
Caribbean Hotel, Front Street, Philipsburg. $50 bucks a night. $40 is you stay a week. Fridge and TV in room with bath and shower. AC. Nothing fancy, just a place to use as a base.
Sea Breeze Hotel. On the way to Philipsburg. Past the large hardware store on road into town. Look for sign before rotary where Texaco gas station and Burger King is. $57. 00 a night. Kind of in the middle of nowhere. Not within walking distance of anything.
Sea View Hotel. Front Street Philipsburg. On the beach. $79. 00 a night, less during off season. They've got a website. Casino downstairs. Courtyard opens to beach. Not a bad place. Downside. Nowhere to park. You've got to park on side or back streets and that's break-in, stolen car city. Unless you park way over by the police station and walk back to the hotel. Then again, that's no guarantee about the safety of your car.
Joshua Rose Guest House. Back street, philipsburg. They've got a website also. Around $60. 00 a night. They're rebuilding back street and the area is a mess though.
Best of Luck!
Clubted
[QUOTE=Kit Karson]When I was there last week I had a session with Sophia. I would like to know if she is still in an upstairs room and has to borrow a room downstairs ?
Sophia from Manizales. Dirty blonde hair, small breast but a great personality and a great fuck. We went into room 2 as she said she has the upstairs room and she is not allowed to take customers upstairs. Whether this is true I am not sure but probably will find out over the next couple of days.[/QUOTE]
Yes, Sophia took me into a spare room, no 4, which is not occupied by any chicas.
Session was okay. I met her last time, but went with Natalia, who is younger and less experienced and with whom I clicked more. Sophia is perhaps more skilled, but not much kissing, BJ was covered and minimal, sex was good. Sophia was fun before and after, I just didn't click with her in the bed very much.
Saw Mel today for about 30 seconds, then he was busy with a chica. He had told Sophia that I would be around to visit her between 430pm and 500pm. Since this is their "free" time, I think she waited around for me to show up and it was reflected in her attitude toward the session. I find that I do better with a girl when I don't have an appointment, there is an element of surprise, and the excitement of her not knowing if she will get my business and me not knowing if I will get a GFE response from her.
went to seamans at 530pm, all my amigas are gone or were napping. so I went to casa blanca for the first time since early december. flirted and talked with 2 chicas from D.R. - the second one especially was very cuddly. Had no time to visit a room, but may go back anoher afternoon. quite a few guys there at 6pm on a wednesday.
-zing
Out & about last night: long haired Viviana @ Seamans' tells me she's going back to Colombia as of Sunday, but may come back in a year as she likes the money. She said she fell, hurt her lower back, maybe her kidneys, went to the hospital and would I settle for sucky sucky, seeing as how fucky fucky hurts like hell right now? Being a gentleman, I said, that of course, that would be just fine.
Valentina @ Carolina's sounds like she probably has just about 3 weeks left before she goes. Seems like a large crop of them came in about the same time, around the turn of the year, so there could be some openings (har, har) at Carolina's soon.
I mentioned the subject in an early report from the island but I never saw a pussy in any club that was not shaved.
Is this from preference ? a club requirement ? or a public health policy from the inspecting doctor ?
It is not that long ago when a shaved pussy was a delight because it was quite rare but after my chinese adventures I find that my schoolboy fantasies have changed and I now really like a chinese type bush.
Interested to know the answer
KK
[QUOTE=Kit Karson]I never saw a pussy in any club that was not shaved. Is this from preference ? a club requirement ? or a public health policy from the inspecting doctor ?
[/QUOTE]I have never seen an unshaved pussy either in 2 years. No idea exactly why.
-zing
A couple of weeks ago, I was in St. Maarten for the day and had one hour to spare. I sneaked across to the Seaman’s club as it was near my work place and I had been there on my last trip a couple of years ago; besides I had no idea where the other clubs were. It was around 5PM, and the bar was almost completely deserted. There were a couple of old geezers (looked like they were part of the furniture) drinking some beer at one end of the bar, and only one girl sitting by herself at the other end. I saw a couple of girls coming in through a door, but they quickly disappeared through another towards the rooms. Since I was determined not to go back without at least one shot, I sat next to the girl at the bar. She turned out to be a pretty Columbian with the (screen?) name of Gloria. Age 24, a child of 8 back home (they start young, don’t they?), but no telltale signs of childbirth, fake blond hair, nice smile, pretty face, fair skin and a firm attractive looking body. Without further ado, I told her my preferences for OWO and anal, both of which she firmly but politely declined. I offered her more money but she refused to budge. I tried to joke with her about whether she was a virgin based on some postings earlier in this string, but the joke fell flat as I did not know the word in Spanish and she did not understand a word of English (so much for trying to be humorous)! Still, she had a great body and I was desperate, so I picked her from the wide selection (not) available. We went to the room (I forget her number – either 15 or 156) and to her credit, she was very pleasant, good attitude and did not ask for the money up front. She gave me a very good CBBJ, and we had great sex in a few positions before I finally released my valuable seed into the usual latex receptacle instead of in her “boca” as I would have preferred. She is not a kisser, but lets you kiss her on the lips without opening her mouth – that was also somewhat disappointing but probably better for my health. She was a bit of a time watcher too, but still a very good experience. She had only been there for a month, so she is probably still around. I wish I could visit SXM every week; from the reports in this forum, there seem to be some very good choices available!
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Are all the brothels closed tonight? I just drove by Carolinas and Seaman's....both shuttered. Please tell me it isn't so!
[QUOTE=Hobbyer]Are all the brothels closed tonight? I just drove by Carolinas and Seaman's....both shuttered. Please tell me it isn't so![/QUOTE]Easter in Colombia is known as Holy Week and is the countries most religious holiday.
Festivities begin on the Thursday and last for seven days. I assume on the Friday the girls would be at the local catholic church and then onto a private fiesta.
kk
It could have something to do with the fact that it is Easter. Perhaps they are closed for the weekend. Most of these Latin girls are very heavily Catholic, I have been told some of them even pay to fly home just to see their families on Easter. Kinda of off point, has anyone ever tried a TLN in any of the private houses on SXM, instead paying for Hotels?
[QUOTE=Hobbyer]Are all the brothels closed tonight? I just drove by Carolinas and Seaman's....both shuttered. Please tell me it isn't so![/QUOTE]Come on , you know the girls are all religious.
Last night was Good Friday.
Yeah, Jesus might arise on Easter, but you won't. Better get your mongering on this Saturday, cuz I think both Sunday & Monday are also national (mandatory) holidays. Further, you may wanna do your ho'ing early in the evening tonight, since Thursday night, the clubs were closing at midnight for Good Friday.
[QUOTE=Kit Karson]I mentioned the subject in an early report from the island but I never saw a pussy in any club that was not shaved.
Is this from preference ? a club requirement ? or a public health policy from the inspecting doctor ?
It is not that long ago when a shaved pussy was a delight because it was quite rare but after my chinese adventures I find that my schoolboy fantasies have changed and I now really like a chinese type bush.
Interested to know the answer
KK[/QUOTE]
¡Usted prefiere a mujer afeitada! ;)
Girls in the business, generally shave. Its cleaner, neater, smells better and [b][i]they[/i][/b] think men prefer it.
Personally, I prefer girls that are natural....clean but natural.
In [b]all[/b] the "profesional" working girl locations (Aruba, Curacao, St Marteen, Trinidad, Costa Rica) I have found that, by and large all the girls shave.
If a natural look ( below her bikini line) is important to you, you're going to have to go after semi-pro's or amateurs on the SA or CA mainland (Honduras comes to mind as a good choice) or travel to the island of Jamiaca. I've been to Jamaica 2x and I've met girls down there who have been in the "business" for 10 years who never even considered trimming themselves! :)
Ruminations from an experienced traveler!
cheers.............
on the way to the cock fights i drove by seamans yesterday and it was packed, defiance was also jumping and was open today. went to church with mi novia today. cute little church in simpson bay and then back to mongering.
mel
Yeah, I guess after a week of getting to know my new columbian friends I should have realized Friday was out of the question for all the good catholics! Fortunately I was still on the island Saturday. ;)
After a week of SXM my brothel spanish has gotten prety good! A piece of advice to all of those who didn't ask for it, if you know even a tiny bit of spanish work it - the girls just love the fact that you try!
[QUOTE=Juancaminante]Come on , you know the girls are all religious.
Last night was Good Friday.[/QUOTE]
st maarten was very quiet, no traffic, with most businesses closed and people gone to the beach. all the clubs were open. but at casa blanca there were only a few girls, no customers, and not even a bartender. i dropped into carolina twice, but did not click with anyone. saw many of my previous carolina sessions in the bar (marcela, sophia, etc.) - val is still there, but i haven't gone with her yet (i do love the freckles, but the look in the eyes is somewhat cut throat).
new girl: claudia, rm 11, seamans
i arrived at seamans at opening. it was quiet. only a couple of girls around. one came over and introduced herself and told me that juliana, my regular, had gone back to colombia last week and had told her about me and suggested she try to make me happy ("as long as you give him mucha chupa he is ok"). this was claudia (rm 11), redhead, natural body with nice rack, wears dark lipstick to show off her white skin, from maracaibo venezuela, 2 children, probably about 30 years old. sitting in a chair, i rested my head on her soft breasts and said a respectful goodbye to juliana.
claudia turned out to have a very nice body and started right off with sexy kisses. i set my ipod/speakers to play marc anthony (ahora quien etc) and pulled out my new french massage oil to give her a massage. then she turned over, more kisses, light sucking of her nipples, and she mentioned that her pussy was very clean ("you are the first one"). when i went down on her, she started with some fake moaning, then switched to real moans of pleasure, then perhaps switched back to fake (or perhaps she just adopts a slightly "raunchy" personality and the moaning was part of it - not sure if she climaxed or not).
then claudia sucked on my nipples and stroked me harder, then went down below for an excellent bbbj. after a long time, she slipped one of her condoms on me before i had a chance to pull out one of my own durex avantis. i was too turned on to stop and switch. no need for ky jelly, although she had it handy. multiple positions, very long time, finally i told her that i couldn't come with her condom and pulled out my own. after switching, more positions, better sensations, but i had missed my moment. no leche.
for a "first date" this was a very good session. claudia made some serious efforts to nail me down as her own private client while we listened to music and cuddled and kissed. i spent an hour in rm 11. left $80.
after my second girl (see below) i went back to seamans again at 430pm to kill some time. two girls at the bar tried to get my business, including natalie, tall, thin, enhanced, pretty, possibly the current roommate of claudia! just as i was weakening, claudia came into the bar and i spotted her. i went over to see her and discussed getting a massage for me this time. she wanted to know what i was doing in the bar with the other 2 girls and where i had been during the afternoon. based on my experiences with eva (see earlier reports), i told a few discreet but simple lies. off to room 11. better kissing, dfk, good massage, tickled and stroked little zinger back into action. another bbbj and finished me off with baby oil and a hj (she really wanted her leche). a lot more talk, "how do i compare to your last regular girl here?").
claudia is at seamans through july.
gloria, the girl mentioned just recently in a report and who is in many of my reports as the roommate of my previous amiga, seems to be gone. but marta, the girl who gives the world's best massage, is still in rm 10. also: one girl told me that she didn't do any fucky-fucky on good friday, but another girl (ruby, blond) told me that she worked all weekend. she kissed her cross and said that jesus understands trabajo (work). ruby said that only 4 girls at seamans didn't work on friday.
new girl: juliana, rm 218, defiance.
i dropped into defiance about 2pm. very quiet. got a coke and walked over to an attractive girl that had caught my eye. said hello and sat down. small talk, her name is juliana from cali (same name as the girl at seamans from pereira who had just left). then another girl that i know came over and asked if i would buy her a coke, i said yes and bought juliana her requested water. more interaction with juliana, light touching, very sexy tickling of my ears (!! instead of the traditional crotch grab). slim girl, good size breasts (enhanced), great legs and buns, pretty face but not a knockout, composed, small smile, no big sales job.
i stood up and put my hand out for her to join me in her room. at that moment, jennie (a boistrous black beauty from colombia rushed up and gave me a big hug from behind). i gave jennie a kiss on the cheek, but never let go of juliana's hand.
something about juliana suggested a tender, slow, approach. i offered a hug and she accepted. i proposed a few soft kisses on the lips, and she accepted. i set up my ipod again and put on some sexy music. she was pleased. i offered her a massage, and she accepted.
halfway through the massage, something changed and juliana started to moan slightly and respond sexily. she was still wearing her thong and i still had on my underpants, so it wasn't anything as obvous as reaching around and grabbing my dick. it was more a matter of squirming and giving out little sounds of contentment. i finished the massage very gently, lying next to her. she turned her head and started kissing me. i kept stroking her with one hand. she turned on her side and we embraced. rubbing bodies against each other firmly, but slowly.
then juliana started rubbing her mound on my leg and my cock, all the while kissing and stroking, without any talking. i rolled over on my back and pulled her on top of me. the squirming and rubbing got more sensuous and intense. she reached down and pulled off her thong, then pulled down my underpants, then resumed grinding on top of me with nothing between us.
i rolled her over on her back, kissing her lips, neck and breasts. then kissed down to her pussy. at this point she stopped me, because she was embarrased by how wet she had gotten - she had juices all over her pussy. juliana stood up and got a couple of baby wipes, cleaned herself off, and lay back down with her legs spread. i started kissing around her pussy, licking up and down on either side. then sliding my tongue up and down her pussy lips, on either side, inside and out. it took about 5 minutes more, but she had a shattering orgasm while i had 2 fingers in her pussy. i moved up her body, kissing gently and stroking her. then just cuddled her for a bit.
... lots more, bbbj, covered cowgirl, lying sideways face to face. an unbroken, sexual connection, without talking. quite amazing. eventually i just had to take a break for a [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url]! 90 minutes in her room. left $80. i walked back into the bar in a haze, and picked up my bogota internet news from another chica. by the look in that girl's eyes i must have given the impression of a totally pussy-whipped man. juliana followed a few seconds later and sat demurely in her original position. i gave her a kiss on the cheek and said goodbye. (after running a few errands i ended up back at seamans, but juliana had pushed out of my mind the name of my other new girl - it was up to claudia to get her name back into my memory!).
juliana is at defiance through august.
-zing
Zing , a question. Is Val an attractive blonde girl with freckles?
While I was there a couple of weeks ago there was a very pretty blonde girl in Carolina's but she was never available so I never spoke to her.
I really enjoy reading your reports , a lot of fun. Keep them coming. The reports that is.
KK
[QUOTE=Kit Karson]Zing , a question. Is Val an attractive blonde girl with freckles?
While I was there a couple of weeks ago there was a very pretty blonde girl in Carolina's but she was never available so I never spoke to her.
I really enjoy reading your reports , a lot of fun. Keep them coming. The reports that is.
KK[/QUOTE]
if you go back thru the threads, the last post with photographs is of Val.
yes, blonde, freckles, pretty, busy.
-zing
i hope you had better luck with valentina than i did.
i found her approach a litttle professional and sterile. no matter what i did i could not get her out of her routine. she has a great room upstairs as she is doing the guy in the back with the keys. i believe she will be leaving for colombia in a few weeks.
happy mongering.
mel.
I arrived about noon and went directly to my boat to drop off my gear and then off to Seamans. Having read sxmpersons review of Tatiana room #2 I thought that she had to be first on my list. Sure enough, she was available. She is a member of the little bitty titty club. Medium body , not tall ,and a nice smile. We chatted for a while normal stuff where are you from etc. and then on to the back. Once we got to the room I said, as I always do ,that I am not here for fucky fucky, I am here for amor and time is not important. We kissed lightly and then she asked me to eat her pussy. We both went in to shower and down town I went. She started with the oh pappi routine immediately but after a while her juices got going and she started moving with my tongue and after about 15-20 minutes at the “y” she came as advertised , explosively.
When she cooled off she went down on me bbbj and I said don’t worry I wont come in your mouth she said that she would love my come in her mouth. NICE !!. However she had a nice tasty pussy and I wanted to test it out with my dick. She was sucking away and I thought she was going for a condom but she went for some KY and jammed her finger up my ass. Normally that is not my thing, but having just come off the plane from sex prison and her mouth sucking along in tune with her finger she got and swallowed the whole load and kept sucking till my eyeballs were dry. All in all a nice hour for $80-.
She was ok and asked for my cell number. As I was going to visit mi novia I gave her the number of my other sxm cell that I do not usually use.
Having reduced my sperm count and taking a second shower and using her Listerine I went to meet mi novia. She was expecting me in two weeks. On the way to her place, I called her on her cell and asked what she was doing and she said she was with the doctor.
I usually call her every day or two. We chit chatted and she was not expecting me to be on island.
I knew where the doctor examines the girls so I went over to the room and called out her name. She came flying out of the room and jumped into my arms. After much kissing in front of the other girls (a definite no no in front of co-workers), she took me inside to meet the doctor.
He is a very nice man and thinks very highly of mi amor and told me that he has been telling her for months that she should go back to Colombia that she is too classy and intelligent for St Martin. Unfortunately, the job that she had is now only available to college graduates so she was unemployed.
We went to her room to pick out clothes for the week and I waited for Zing to come by and pick up a plimsur (sp?) Spanish 2 disk from me. She put on a little fashion show for me picking out her clothes. Zing showed up and I gave him the disk. Knowing he was on a short schedule, we said hello and goodbye quickly. We packed and off to the boat.
What can I say. Sex with a wonderful woman morning evening and night.
Our own bed clean sheets, our own kitchen, nice air conditioning, clean bathroom with hot water.
She is 5 feet 4 inches 38-24-36 which I personally measured with legs that are fantastic and a nice “D” chest. What more can I want. (well I am a monger) When she comes I said I am going to record it next time we are together because it is memorable. I never wanted to have such a recording but this is a must. I love it when she puts her hands on my ass and pulls me into her so I get every millimeter of me into her. And, she kisses like a dream. Looking at her when we are making love it is indescribable. I find her absolutely beautiful and enchanting. Dropping her off after 6 days I felt sad as I had to return her to her shitty world. She is very unusual as she asks for nothing for herself just money for her family. Before leaving the USA I sent via western union the money to her father so my vacation was pre-paid. Western union in sxm charges 5% in the USA it is 3%.
I had brought her a few small gifts when I arrived and other than using my phone to call home, she requested nothing. I gave her some additional $ for herself, but I know she will send it home.
After I dropped mi novia off, I had an hour to kill so I thought I would try out Titania’s pussy. I did not have time for a nice long session but had a nice short daty, bbbj, and juicy cowgirl. She is interesting but not a super star. I would try another one when I get down in a few weeks. She will be there until May 10.
Mel
To Zing and others,
I'm well familiar with spots frequently mentioned here. My question as an occasional tourist is. Are there any places in downtown Phillipsburg or Marigot to grab a quickie?
Thanks!
[QUOTE=Inglewood]To Zing and others,
I'm well familiar with spots frequently mentioned here. My question as an occasional tourist is. Are there any places in downtown Phillipsburg or Marigot to grab a quickie?
Thanks![/QUOTE]
No, nothing in downtown. Why that question? To avoid taxi? It's just a small island, the brothels are all a 5-10min drive from Phillipsburg and you can even walk to Petit Chateau from downtown Phillipsburg.
Oh and by the way, Marigot is on the French side, forget about that part of the island, it's a no sex zone.
there will be no laughing allowed during this report. just when i think i am getting comfortable in the world of latin american girls who work far from home in caribbean brothels, i have a day where i think that i don't understand anything at all.
claudia, rm 11 (now 10) at seamans
i returned to claudia, the venezuelan redhead who tried to capture my heart (or at least my pocketbook) after juliana (#1) left. i must remember that each woman is unique and has her own needs and situtation and priorities. to recap, last time i provided romantic music, massage, daty, caresses, conversation, and money. she responded with kisses, bbbj, conversation, lots of sex, and declarations of undying love. this time, claudia had her own boombox, so i just contributed money as always, plus a cd of love songs in english (instead of the whole music experience) and a massage. claudia showed no interest in daty. she responded with a reasonable massage for me (note: marta from the next room came over to give me a kiss on the cheek and thank me for my gift last time of a cd of sexy latino music- i asked her if she could teach juliana to do massage as well as she does - later claudia asked me if marta gave a good massage and i said "best in the world" and explained why). claudia also responded with a long and wonderful bbbj (which would have turned in cim if i had just directed her a bit at the proper moment), then an intense missionary finish facilitated by artificial lubricant this time and providing little or no pleasure for her.
i had this feeling of disquiet, like i hadn't done my part of the job (providing her with pleasure too). but as soon as we were cleaned up and before i was even recovered, i found out what my real job was. claudia moved on to her #1 priority: to go through my cd collection to see if there was anything she could use for her new stereo. she pulled out cds, listened too a few bars, skipped to the next song, then the next, then to another cd. looking for familiar hits and the music that she is comfortable with, to outfit her room more like home. she rejected my valenato cd with a dismissive wave ("costeno" meaning i think hillbilly valenato from the coastal area of colombia instead of the more sophisticiated romantic valenato that she was hoping for and which i had never even heard of)! listening to her click impatiently through my carefully selected mix of romantic latina music was disturbing to my preconceived notions. and knowing that having an orgasm with me wasn't that high on her priority list either.
$80. 70 minutes. good sex, but mentally unsettling.
juliana #3, rm 9, at carolina
i went into the carolina restaurant and ordered a meatball sandwich (the new chef/cook is great), then went into the bar to get a can of diet coke. there were lots of guys in the bar. a dark haired girl i had never noticed before came up to me and started talking rapidly in spanish. none of the traditional como esta/what is your name stuff. i told her in spanish that i needed to go back to the restaurant for my food, but she could come with me. at the restaurant table, she continued her stream of high-speed spanish. i only understood about 20% of it, but i got the idea that she had been watching me for 20 days and four other girls had told her i was a great client, a good experience, and she was desperate for something good to happen to her, and she needed me to go to the room with her. or it could have just been the standard "you're so handsome" stuff. or, it could have been something completely different.
after my snack, i took out $3 and said let's go to the room and work on your problems. she had to get a key for room #1 (natalie's room) because her room (#9) was busy. in the room she turned out to have an excellent body and nice breasts, but juliana does not look like a typical girl from medellin. very long black hair, all natural body, traditional latina face (regular, handsome, not beautiful, like the long-suffering peasant woman in a mexican movie). she was still talking rapidly as i set up music and started to massage her. when i got to her feet, she went into a permanent stream of "que ricos" and started directing me to the tendons in her feet that were suffering from high heels. i proceeded to daty and she eventually had a meltdown. (as i write this, i realize that i am in a rut - need to try some new scenarios, perhaps one where i get the massage and the meltdown and she gets her's later if i am happy).
because i can understand some of her constant stream of conversation and because i have so far provided everything that she didn't even know that she needed, she assumes that i am fluent in spanish (not!). now she starts moving into new territory, but i can only guess what she means. we have been in the room too long, we need to pay the bar another $3, this isn't her room, someone may knock on the door, she should get $100 for an hour. and lots more about her kids and her clients and the other girls that i didn't understand at all.
i give her the money, basically because i feel sorry for her and she has just the type of body and openness that i like. she quickly dresses and goes out to the bar and pays the extra $3 (this is the first time i have ever had a girl worry about this until we are done, dressed and out the door of the room). back in the room, we kiss a bit and i ask if she wants to move to her room. yes, we do so. all the time, she is still talking to me. more intently now!
in her room, we are back on the bed, the kisses are now really quite intense and sexy. then she says that she is afraid to do bbbj with me because i have gone with so many girls (i presume she means at carolina, but she could mean in st maarten. remember, there are woman who provides goods and services to the chicas and who go to all the clubs - i have seen one of them at 5 clubs. plus there is an internet cafe right next to carolina and some of the girls know english so could read this forum). so after all my pleasure for her, she offers only a covered blowjob.
ironically, after kenney left carolina, none of the girls (except paola the pse) provided me with a bbbj, which was why i kept trying new ones. now that search disqualified me from ever having a bbbj again! and she is still telling me things, now about me, that i don't understand. i can't even get hard enough for her to put the condom on. she pleads with me to stay with her until i have to leave, then she will make so much money that she won't have to work anymore that day, and her clients are terrible, etc. at least i think that is what she said. at this point, i got up, dressed, gave her a hug and more money, and left carolina.
$166 total. 2 hours with juliana #3. no sex, very confusing, even disturbing, if i understood correctly what she said about the bbbj! very humorous to other people i suspect.
juliana #2, rm 218, defiance.
stopped at the market to buy a couple of simple supplies for mel's girlfriend as a favor. when i got to defiance, juliana #2 (#1 was my departed favorita from seamans) was sitting at the bar, with mel's girlfriend on one side and another chica on the other side. i said hello to everyone and gave juliana a small stuffed dog that barks when you squeeze it (goofy, i know). she appeared to like it, even more when she discovered the bark. then i gave mel's girlfriend the bag from the market and i thought i told her it was a gift from mel. then the bartender asked how come she didn't get a gift, so i asked what kind of music she liked and gave her a reggae cd.
without any real conversation, juliana smiled quietly and turned her head toward the rooms. i took her hand and led her up to rm 218. as we were leaving, mel's girlfriend called me back for a thank you for the gift. in juliana's room there was no kissing and only a covered blowjob and overall, a disappointing session. it is true that i only had 30 minutes, so could not give her a massage and special treatment like last time, but i didn't tell her i was short of time and she didn't ask for any attention for herself. i have no idea what was going on. perhaps she thought she was sharing me with mel's girlfriend because i gave her a gift also (although she did not show any signs of disapproval at the time). or, she was not comfortable with how turned on she got last time. or, she heard about my visits to other clubs. or she wasn't feeling well that day and had a canker sore in her mouth and didn't want to spread it to me. i have no idea.
$40. 30 minutes. reasonable cbj and cfs, no kissing or much else. i have no idea what she needs and wants, nor what she thinks that i want. but i still like the feel and the sense about her, so i will be back. but next time i will go there first thing in the day and try something completely new!
-zing
At Carolina's I found Juliana overpowering and had to be almost rude to get her to leave me alone at the bar.
She had a great rack and a body to match but the dominating behaviour sort of reminded me of what I may expect in the room.
Glad now that I left her alone but I would have loved to play with her balloons.
kk
Hi all, went to carolina first today to see what I could find. Started with a previous session (Diana I think, did not ask her name because I have been with her 2 times before, rm 8 now). Large enhanced rack, black hair, nice bod, short, okay face, nice girl. Lots of foreplay at the bar, break while she takes care of moneygrams (has to send her earnings home). Off to rm 8.
Took a full shower, because it is now hot in sxm. Good session. Nice kisses and caresses. Cbj and cfs. Good music, provided by me. About 40 minutes. $50.
Back in the bar, diana hooked up with a guy who was waiting for her, I went to the bar for a diet coke. Juliana (#3) see previous report, dropped her prospect and came to work on me. Said my massage last time was incredible, please take her to the room for another massage. I said you cost me a lot of money and I didn't get any sex last time! If we go to the room, no dinero for you at all. She says "poco dinero". I say no thanks and leave carolina. Next time I will try to get her down to no money for her, 30 minutes, chupa sin condon for me, another great massage for her. That will test whether she really wants a massage and feels at all bad out of lifting $166 from me last time.
Seamans club, quickly to the room with Claudia, rm 11. Put Joan Sebastian on the cd player (I took to the room only the items that I thought I would need. 1 cd that I wanted to listen to, no ipod, no speakers, nothing extra), I took control of the session, asked for a BBBJ only, went on for ever, some nice dfk before and after too, massage, play, some talk, told her about my only TLN in st maarten (go back and read the report, I was way too nice to the girl), she said "great for the girl, not so great for you!
I offered her chupa and she said "claro", which means "clearly, of course! ". However, the last time I did no daty and the time before I sensed that she was faking when she wanted me to stop. So this time I took it really easy, very gentle, then I took one of her pussy lip in my lips and gave it at suck. She pulled away. And said " you are very professional". I said "no, this is my first time! ". She laughed and said "No way". But actually, she was surprised that I was able to come up with a sensation that she couldn't ignore.
She doesn't mind doing what I want to me, but Claudia does not really want me to turn her on and make her lose focus at the start of her work day. But, she can't tell me that because it goes against the puta code (the customer must always feel like a giant stud), but I think I get the message.
1. 5 hours, $100, left the joan sebastian cd and a stuffed dog that barks (yes, I have 2, bought at walmart in usa for $2 each! ).
-zing
P.S. Talked to eva in pereira today and yesterday, using a calling card. She is fine. Pleased to hear from me. Speaking spanish on the phone is harder, but she also speaks some english so that helps. Went to petite chateau and talked to her friend sandra there.
Zing,
Great move. I think you should pursue the tack that you are on with Juliana.
If she really likes you, she should throw in a freebie. You almost paid for a TLN and got no sex. I would say to her this time is free next time Dinero.
I would love to know how this turns out.
I hope to see you next week.
Mel
Zing,
Great move. I think you should pursue the tack that you are on with Juliana.
If she really likes you, she should throw in a freebie. You almost paid for a TLN and got no sex. I would say to her this time is free next time Dinero.
I would love to know how this turns out.
I hope to see you next week.
Mel
Zing,
What part of the newspaper do you print out for the girls?
Thanks,
Mel
with the lovemaking. If you spent one tenth the effort on a non hooker that you spend on these girls, you could probably have a pretty hot girlfriend who gives a shit about you. Kind of sad and twisted, not in the least interesting (anymore) or impressive.
Zing is an ISG friend of mine. He is a significant asset to both me and this board.
Each of us has their own individual style and technique.
We are all looking for something. What makes zing happy is not obviously your thing.
Many of us cannot have the luxury of a full time girlfriend for numerous reasons.
Zing is doing his thing- why not just let him enjoy himself without any negative comments?
Mel
[QUOTE=Umgman]with the lovemaking. If you spent one tenth the effort on a non hooker that you spend on these girls, you could probably have a pretty hot girlfriend who gives a shit about you. Kind of sad and twisted, not in the least interesting (anymore) or impressive.[/QUOTE]Maybe I am missing the plot but the beauty of this forum is that it is a reflection on the land we live in.
We are not forced to read any posts and on a personal note I enjoy reading the exploits of one of St Maarten's very own.
If and when I begin to find an individual members posts boring and objectionable I will cease to read them or apply Jackson's member blocker.
Until then to all of the contributors on this forum " keep them coming"
kk
[QUOTE=Mel365]Zing is doing his thing- why not just let him enjoy himself without any negative comments? Mel[/QUOTE] Don't worry about me Mel, I have had Ungman on my IgnoreList since he posted a sarcastic comment about one of your posts and I went back and found that 90% of his posts are negative. It is best Not to respond to such people, just put them on Ignore (actually, it would be a nice feature if the forum gave a rating for each poster if a lot of people are Ignoring them!)
-zing
[QUOTE=Mel365]Zing,
What part of the newspaper do you print out for the girls?
Thanks,
Mel[/QUOTE]
I print the front page, then I pick one of two articles, usually about sports, or family life, or celebrities, or fashion and print them out (not the numerous stories about murders and bombings in colombia).
-zing
[QUOTE=Mel365]If she really likes you, she should throw in a freebie. You almost paid for a TLN and got no sex. I would say to her this time is free next time Dinero. I would love to know how this turns out. l[/QUOTE] I don't hold out much hope that she will agree, but if she does, the rules will be: 30 minutes, she has to be totally silent, bbbj for me, then a massage for her, no money for her.
-zing
[QUOTE=Umgman]with the lovemaking. If you spent one tenth the effort on a non hooker that you spend on these girls, you could probably have a pretty hot girlfriend who gives a shit about you. Kind of sad and twisted, not in the least interesting (anymore) or impressive.[/QUOTE]Actually, I dig the Zing and his posts. If you don't like his posts, don't read them.
Some of his posts are quite funny :)
My bad. Although if you think those posts are fun and exciting, you better get a stress test before you watch paint dry.
And holy cow--I got ignored? I'm pretty sure I didn't earn that. I wasn't even trying very hard. But seriously. Aren't these posts getting a little repetetive? I went to Carolinas. Marc Anthony. Got sandwich. Room 12. CBJ, CFS. $40. And on and on.
Maybe, you know, liven it up. Hell, I would appreciate if someone would insult me well. Not hard to do guys.
I know I can't be alone in thinking this, but maybe I am alone in being a big enough dick to say it.
[QUOTE=Umgman]....but maybe I am alone......[/QUOTE]On the other hand, you are never alone with schizophrenia.
Which is what a lot of this lifestyle is about!! The agony, the ecstasy....more posts please Zing!!
Polvo
I'm pretty sure you're just a dick. Rock on Zing!
[QUOTE=Umgman]My bad. Although if you think those posts are fun and exciting, you better get a stress test before you watch paint dry.
And holy cow--I got ignored? I'm pretty sure I didn't earn that. I wasn't even trying very hard. But seriously. Aren't these posts getting a little repetetive? I went to Carolinas. Marc Anthony. Got sandwich. Room 12. CBJ, CFS. $40. And on and on.
Maybe, you know, liven it up. Hell, I would appreciate if someone would insult me well. Not hard to do guys.
I know I can't be alone in thinking this, but maybe I am alone in being a big enough dick to say it.[/QUOTE]
I just looked up the exchange rate of the colombian peso and the US dollar. They seemed to be locked in at. 0004 to the dollar. Yet when I send money to colombia, western union charges a different exchange rate every time. Why is that?
Thanks
Mel
[QUOTE=Mel365]I just looked up the exchange rate of the colombian peso and the US dollar. They seemed to be locked in at. 0004 to the dollar. Yet when I send money to colombia, western union charges a different exchange rate every time. Why is that?
Thanks
Mel[/QUOTE]
Western Union making $$$ of course :)
[QUOTE=Ricker]Western Union making $$$ of course :)[/QUOTE]So the fucking never stops.
On a completley diff topic: Mel, I don't have the PM thingy here at this site and heaven forbid I post any other address, thus will have to catch up w/you via some other means.
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Hi Maartenized,
Do you mean that a sophisticated world traveler such as yourself can't afford a $13 subscription to support this forum and all the work I do to keep it maintained?
Come on dude, a forum subscription is less than the price of a newspaper one day a week.
Thanks,
Jackson[/blue]
[QUOTE=Mel365]I just looked up the exchange rate of the colombian peso and the US dollar. They seemed to be locked in at. 0004 to the dollar. Yet when I send money to colombia, western union charges a different exchange rate every time. Why is that?
Thanks
Mel[/QUOTE]The best way to always get the true daily exchange is a bank card.
Easy to control for you , a seperate account , no hassle and no bank charges if you are a preferred customer.
It is only in the last 2 years that US dollar restrictions have been increased but it is still only nominal amounts , I believe $500 a month through Banco Colombia.
Bank cards however allow virtually unrestricted amounts to enter .
kk
[QUOTE=Mel365]I just looked up the exchange rate of the colombian peso and the US dollar. They seemed to be locked in at. 0004 to the dollar. Yet when I send money to colombia, western union charges a different exchange rate every time. Why is that?
Thanks
Mel[/QUOTE]The best way to always get the true daily exchange is a bank card.
Easy to control for you , a seperate account , no hassle and no bank charges if you are a preferred customer.
It is only in the last 2 years that US dollar restrictions have been increased but it is still only nominal amounts , I believe $500 a month through Banco Colombia.
Bank cards however allow virtually unrestricted amounts to enter .
kk
Martinized,
You should sign up--$13- buys you a lot of entertainment.
I would like to hook up with you but we have to do that back channel--pm.
Mel
[QUOTE=Mel365]Zing, Great move. I think you should pursue the tack that you are on with Juliana. If she really likes you, she should throw in a freebie. You almost paid for a TLN and got no sex. I would say to her this time is free next time Dinero. I would love to know how this turns out.[/QUOTE] Last time at Carolina I went with Diana and then told Juliana #3 (in rm 9) that I could not go to the room with her again unless we did it for free for 30 minutes, based on my unequal/expensive first visit with her. She started to negotiate and I just said I was out of time and left the club.
Today I talked to Diana at the bar, then had a hamburger in the restaurant with Natalie and Marcela and 2 other girls, then went back in the bar and talked to a new girl, Maria Paola. At this point Juliana came back in the bar and sat down next to me. She asked if she could get me to the room again, that she really wanted me. I said "no problem. 30 minutes, no money, no talking, bbbj for me first, then massage for you and whatever else we feel like". She agreed!
And in her room, Juliana kept her bargain, starting with BBBJ (not the best, but with plenty of attempt to please and room for improvement, no hesitation), then a masage for her, and lots more than was part of the deal. At exactly 30 minutes I thanked her and got dressed, told her I had to go for an appointment, but would see her again for a longer visit the next time I come to the club. Totally GFE!
This result is exactly what the guys in the colombia thread say will happen if you are confident and firm with the girl.
-zing
[QUOTE=Zing23]....... At exactly 30 minutes I thanked her and got dressed, told her I had to go for an appointment, but would see her again for a longer visit the next time I come to the club. .....This result is exactly what the guys in the colombia thread say will happen if you are confident and firm with the girl.....-zing[/QUOTE]Zing: What a result and follow through. Fantastic.
Any objection if I stamp that on my wallet so I don't forget? "Be firm, Be firm!"
Suerte!
Polvo
Zing,
Congratulations on your deal at Carolinas. I knew you could do it. She also showed that she likes you and is a lady.
Good luck with her.
Thanks for the info about Mi Novia. Please call me I will be in sxm both days that you are there. I will probably be there 2 weeks starting Sunday.
Thanks again and congratulations.
Mel
[QUOTE=Zing23]This result is exactly what the guys in the colombia thread say will happen if you are confident and firm with the girl.
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Watch out Zing, you are entering in a new danger zone! I discovered this too and it went way too far for me.
It was a strange feeling for me leaving SXM and the chica saying goodby at the airport without paying anything. The result was that for weeks we kept communicating through SMS, Emails, phonecalls. She never told me anything about money. I felt committed to help her dealing with the brothel's hell till she was safely back again with her family in Colombia.
Just before leaving SXM, she told me she had not reached her goal and needed 1500$ more. She didn't tell any bullshit about a dying mother, medical issue or anything, she just asked me if I could help her. As I knew she was at the end of her stay, I believed it was an excellent opportunity to break the relationship. So I answered that I was very disappointed that she considered me as a customer not as a novio, claiming that she couldn't ask a man to love her, accept that she had sex with plenty other men for money and on the same time asking also money like all other customers. she had to accept that with her job there could be no money exchange between us, if I accept money I'm a pimp and if she accepts money I'm a customer. I told her that I believed she didn't love me anymore and that our relation was over.
Guess what? I received a tsunami of SMS, Emails and phonecalls asking to forgive her, that she didn't want no money of me and that she only wanted my love. I felt trapped, I believed refusing to pay would make an end to our relationship, but it was exactly the opposite. It had made her feelings stronger than ever, probably because it made her giving me more respect. Her love was so strong, it freaked me out and made me feel even more guilty. I even realized how easy it could be to pimp a girl with such feelings. Our last phonecall was heartbreaking. She cried on the phone, damning we had met us in a brothel, asking to forgive her for having asked money. I kept strong, as the relationship couldn't go on further, it would reach even more dangerous levels for both of us. I'm pretty sure I would never have managed to do it if I was in front of her. I have no news anymore, she was supposed to leave SXM yesterday, I hope she is now again back home with her family, which will make it easier for her to forget our story.
Bottomline, if you want no emotionnal issue, pay the exact amount of money she deserves, not less, not more. Money will not pay love, chances are that if you pay more she will try to milk you as much as possible, losing respect and feelings. You might end up to be the victim. But if you don't pay, you will have to deal with the consequences of a loving woman.
[QUOTE=Routard]Watch out Zing, you are entering in a new danger zone! I discovered this too and it went way too far for me... Bottomline, if you want no emotional issue, pay the exact amount of money she deserves, not less, not more. Money will not buy love, chances are that if you pay more she will try to milk you as much as possible, losing respect and feelings. You might end to be the victim. But if you don't pay, you will have to deal with the consequences of a loving woman.[/QUOTE] I had not planned to have any more freebies with Juliana, because they aren't really free. I just wanted to give her a chance to redeem herself in my eyes before I wrote her off. Although my previous session with her was not good, I thought at the time that it was because she is inexperienced (of course I could be wrong and she is just very clever). But she acted like a girl that was desperate to figure out how to succeed at Carolina Club, so she can make the money that some of the other girls are making, and get the attention they get. The aggressiveness (without seductivity), the constant talking, everything pointed in that direction.
Luckily at the end of our free session she told me she really wants an iPod and speakers, couldn't i get her one. So I think her mercenary instincts are still intact. At least I hope so.
-zing
hi all,
i bought some Inter calling cards on the french side and used them to call Eva in Pereira. The cost was 1 Euro per minute. Skype appears to be 0.77 Euro per minute, which is not much less.
Anyone have any other cheaper methods: other brand cards, or cellphone company charges, etc.
thanks
zing
[QUOTE=Zing23].......Anyone have any other cheaper methods: other brand cards, or cellphone company charges, etc.....thanks
zing[/QUOTE]
Zing:
You might want to check out a company called Solollama. They have a "virtual calling card" that would give you a "free" (bollox) number to call from SXM and then you can dial Colombia. If I read their current rates correctly it is $0.49 to make the initial connection and $0.39 per minute thereafter. (I also checked out United World Telecom who I use, but their rates were not so good.)
Here is the link (you want the Soloflat plan): [url]https://secure.solollama.com/cgi_bin/tarjeta_virtual.php?psLD=5b5880c704bcd36d39aed4cd3b736aa0&_SITE=solollama_eng&_sa=n[/url] If the link does not survive PM me.
So - the key question is: does she answer the phone each time, or do you have a 1 in 4 success rate which means your other service is cheaper??
Suerte!
Polvo
[QUOTE=Zing23]hi all,
i bought some Inter calling cards on the french side and used them to call Eva in Pereira. The cost was 1 Euro per minute. Skype appears to be 0.77 Euro per minute, which is not much less.
Anyone have any other cheaper methods: other brand cards, or cellphone company charges, etc.
thanks
zing[/QUOTE]Zing,
my own opinion is that Skype is far cheaper than a calling card because it is consistent in pricing where a lot of cards charge extras and then expire suddenly.
Skype is my prefered method of calling home when I am away.
Sitting in a hotel tonight in Shenzhen, China and when I called my wife in Peirera an hour ago the charge was 11.9 cents a minute CND dollars. If I phone her on her cell it is 12.8 cnd a minute.
I am calling customers in the USA & Europe for 2.4c using Skype.
Discounting the dollar to US is another 15%
kk
[QUOTE=Polvo]So - the key question is: does she answer the phone each time, or do you have a 1 in 4 success rate which means your other service is cheaper?? Suerte!
Polvo[/QUOTE]So far, she answers the phone herself everytime (after the first 3 calls when no one answered - turned out her old telephone number didn't work very well anymore, so she had to stand by it until I called then answer and give me the new number through the crackle!
Because she always answers, my limited spanish has worked okay so far. I haven't had to leave a message with her mother/uncle/brother! Eva claims she is through with prostitution and is going to school to learn computer systems (this is a girl who never touched a computer before).
-zing
Zing,
I use Tele cell. I believe it costs about 30 cents a minute to Colombia.
Mel
Zing:
Being a nosy bastard I just checked out the Skype Out rate for Colombia-Pereira and it came back with $ 0.095 +$0.039 (connection). So essentially 14 cents per minute which is about €0.103.
Are you sure about your Skype charge?
Polvo
[QUOTE=Polvo]Zing:
Being a nosy bastard I just checked out the Skype Out rate for Colombia-Pereira and it came back with $ 0.095 +$0.039 (connection). So essentially 14 cents per minute which is about €0.103.
Are you sure about your Skype charge?
Polvo[/QUOTE]
obviously i read the skype charges wrong. thanks for double checking me. I am going to reactivate my skype account with another 10 Euros and start calling colombia on it.
-zing
[QUOTE=Zing23]obviously i read the skype charges wrong. thanks for double checking me. I am going to reactivate my skype account with another 10 Euros and start calling colombia on it. -zing[/QUOTE]
Do a test call and then check your "Account" page to make sure I am not incorrect! (It is not uncommon.)
Polvo
Thanks for the info, very much appreciated!
Anybody have any additional info/experience with Joshua Rose Guest House, Caribbean Hotel, or Seabreeze Hotel?
Just looking for something that is CLEAN!
[QUOTE=Zing23]obviously i read the skype charges wrong. thanks for double checking me. I am going to reactivate my skype account with another 10 Euros and start calling colombia on it.
Zing[/QUOTE]The connection charge is a one time call charge I dont believe it gets added the the running minute charge.
The other alternative is to get her to visit an internet cafe in Pereira at an arranged time and set up a Skype account for her and all you have to do is dial the skype number and you talk for free for as long as you want.
KK
[QUOTE=Kit Karson]The connection charge is a one time call charge I dont believe it gets added the the running minute charge......KK[/QUOTE]
Kit you are correct. I was having a really bad "dumb-ass" day yesterday! Thanks for catching that.
To confirm, the charge is $0.095 per minute plus [b] a one time charge per call connection[/b] of $0.039.
Even cheaper!!
Suerte!
Polvo
the cheapest international phone calls i've found so far is using yahoo messenger phone out. and there's no connection charge. but you need a computer and a highspeed internet connection. i regularly call chicas in colombia, and this is the only way it'd be affordable.
yahoo messenger phone out medellin $0.069/min
colombia mobile $0.109/min
skype skypeout medellin $0.095/min
here are rates for calling medellin. note that yahoo messenger has a higher rate for calling mobile phones than a regular phone.
[quote=zing23]hi all,
i bought some inter calling cards on the french side and used them to call eva in pereira. the cost was 1 euro per minute. skype appears to be 0.77 euro per minute, which is not much less.
anyone have any other cheaper methods: other brand cards, or cellphone company charges, etc.
thanks
zing[/quote]
Has anyone got any contacts on St Maarten to meet a girl outside the brothels? (phone numbers pics) As a local I prefer indiscretion. Please let me know.
[QUOTE=Ohio Monger]...Yahoo Messenger Phone Out....[/QUOTE]
Good call quality?
Polvo
yes, the quality is as good as a regular phone; although it's best to use a headset to avoid echos. i use it to call chicas in colombia frequently. my sister used it to call from australia. check out the yahoo messenger website for more info, and make your own cost comparisons as the rates are listed. i'd suggest giving it a try. it's is free, and with no monthly fee. if you don't like it, you can always uninstall it. to use phone out, you prepay $10 or whatever amount, and then your calls are charged against it.
vonage and skype sells those nice phones, but if you have a laptop and highspeed internet access, i don't see any big advantage over yahoo messenger phone out.
[quote=polvo]good call quality?
polvo[/quote]
i went to carolina at opening time, watched the girls sign in and some return from their overnight clients. many fine looking young women, but no real stunning beauties. the closest is a very thin, elegant girl with beautiful face and medium length black hair and small breasts. don't know her name. there were 4 or 5 guys in the bar already - most of the girls don't even look at them, just sign in and go back to their rooms or the restaurant. but the slim girl strolls over to an elderly man at the bar, a man that i recognize from where i live, and starts talking to him. nothing aggressive, just polite and friendly. five minutes later they are walking to her room, him with a serious limp.
after 15 minutes, juliana (rm 9) comes into the room, the girl i was waiting for. long reddish-black hair, excellent body, face is attractive, but not cute or beautiful. after chit-chat, she asks if i want to go to her room for an hour. i say no. she asks, half an hour? i say no, i want 7 hours, from now until 6pm. she thinks i am joking. we pay the bar $6 and go off to the room. i haven't had a woman for a week, so i am savoring every second and it is wonderful.
i invite her to leave the bar for an afternoon and go with me to visit mel's boat. i mention the beach as a possibility, but she doesn't have a swimming suit. i help her select proper clothes: jeans and a spagetti-strap t-shirt top. she asks if she should bring her "working clothes" also. i say no.
for a girl to leave caroline between 11am and 4pm, they must pay a multa (fine) to the bar of $45. we go to the bar and pay, juliana gets a written receipt from the main bartender (!).
we arrive at mel's boat and sit in the cockpit, drinking a cold beer. mel and i catch up on news in english, and the 3 of us talk in spanish. mel's girlfriemd appears from the cabin below, then the girls talk some in spanish. very politely, mel's girlfriend talks slowly so that mel and i can follow what the girls are saying. if they talked at their normal speed, with colombian slang thrown in, we would be completely lost.
there is some light kissing and hugging going on, then we have a tour of the boat. juliana is blown away. then we retire to our private cabin, set up by mel with fresh sheets and towels. the forward birth in such a boat is v-shaped and short, but this one has air conditioning. we spend almost 3 hours in the cabin, snuggling, kissing, making love, and watching a dvd that i brought along: "maria full of grace".
this is a recent colombian movie that routard recommended. it is in spanish, with english subtitles and is very moving. it is the first time that either of us has seen the movie. a 17 year old girl in colombia is pregnant, and faced with other family responsibilities too. she agrees to become a drug mule. complications ensue... the movie has a plot, the plot isn't obvious (except in retrospect), and i even recognize most of the latin songs playing in the background!
juliana says that the depiction of conditions in colombia was exactly right. i thought that the part that takes place in new york also seemed very realistic. all through the movie, juliana kept saying "duro", which means "hard". life is hard. things are hard for maria in the movie. perhaps she is also thinking that things are hard for juliana. similarities exist: girl with hard life in colombia accepts less than respectable work and travels far from home to a foreign country, facing uncertainty and risk, with no guarantee of the promised payoff.
we ate in a nice mexican restaurant for tourists, i slipped an appropriate gift of money into her purse, and we drove back to carolina in the rush hour traffic.
-zing
Zing,
I guess you were aware that your report would bring me back all the memories of what happened on Mel's boat. Wished I could have joined you, guys!
I should have warned about "Maria full of Grace" as it is very different from "Rosario Tijeras". It's probably not the kind of movie to watch together with the chicas.
Hello all,
Looks like I will finally be in SXM for one day this week.
My spanish is somewhere between useless and weak.
Any recommendations for which girl to choose? BBBJ is the essential for me, other than that I'm not too picky (within reason).
Tatiana and Juliana seem to be the names that come up form my 'research'.
Any advice will be GREATLY appreciated!
Thanks!
[QUOTE=Punjiman]I will finally be in SXM for one day this week. My spanish is somewhere between useless and weak. Any recommendations for which girl to choose? BBBJ is the essential for me, other than that I'm not too picky (within reason). Tatiana and Juliana seem to be the names that come up form my 'research'. [/QUOTE]
Since I wrote all the Juliana posts, cannot recommend any of the various Juliana's for a sure thing BBBJ. Going with a specific girl's name in mind is not usually helpful, especially if you don't speak Spanish. You can't find her, or there are 2 with that name, or she is now gone! Just learn this much Spanish:
chupa = blowjob
sin condon = without condom
por favor = please
the girl will do all the rest of the communicating, don't worry. You may have to interview a few girls to find one that you like and who thinks you look clean enough for a BBBJ. but the interview process can be fun. don't be cheap - buy her a drink.
-zing
Thanks Zing!
Yup, I definitely have that phrase down in my 'bare bones' essential spanish!
So there are at least a handful of girls to choose from? Sometimes from the posts, it seems like there are only a few girls there.
[QUOTE=Punjiman]So there are at least a handful of girls to choose from? Sometimes from the posts, it seems like there are only a few girls here.[/QUOTE]
at carolina, 24 to 30 girls. at seamans, 25 to 40 girls, at defiance, 25 girls, at casa blanca, 40 girls, at petite chateau, 30 girls.
all the girls at carolina are attractive and most are nice and friendly. most of the girls at seamans club are attactive and most are nice and friendly. 1/2 of girls at defiance and casa blanca are attractive, other half are average looking. a few girls at petit chateau are attractive. of course your opinion may vary, but there should be something that you will like!
what we need are more isg members to post reports on all the girls. one guy wrapped up his work in st maarten, another mostly spends all his time with a single girl, and I usually settle on 2 or 3 girls, 1 per club.
-zing
What! WOW, that many girls! I had no idea.
Ok, I think I have to amend my travel plans then!
Punjiman, you won't have any problem finding a girl that you prefer at the clubs mentioned by Zing. I was in SXM about 2 years ago, and it was unbelievible. I was there on a cruise, and was able to get to 3 different clubs, and boned plenty of girls. My pics are posted on the board, but you will have to do some digging in this thread to find them.
IMHO, I feel SXM is in the top 5 in the world for mongering, and I have been to many places. I hope you have a great time, and please let us know how it went.
Chris H
Today I decided to try something a little different. Ideally, I would go to a different club each day and have a nice session, then have a nice woman at home who would wake me up at 6am for a BBBJCIM. But life isn't ideal. I don't get awakened for sex at home and I can only visit the clubs once or twice a week, so I am always trying to pack in several sessions in the same afternoon. And I am starting to feel my age, so I need Vitamin V for sex. I decided that perhaps I don't need V for BJ, given the intense stimulation of a BBBJ to completion. So I would save the V for the second girl.
Arrived at Seamans Club at 1110am - Marta (rm 11) the girl who gives the great massage and session was behind the bar, so I ordered a drink, then my favorita Claudia (rm 10) jumped up on a chair and gave me a hug. She gave me a great BBBJ and I came spectacularly. I didn't need the Viagra to stay hard during BBBJ. Great.
By the way, I have taken the advice of the board regarding white lies versus the truth. Claudia noticed that my massage oil was lower in the bottle and wanted to know if had been massaging other girls. I said no, of course not, but I have to massage my wife!
When I finally left, the bar at Seamans was completely packed, many sailors, boat tourists and locals (it was some kind of holiday). By the way, I talked to a girl who was smoking a joint, in a secluded part of the club. First time I have noticed that.
Arrived at Carolina around 130pm. While waiting for my favorita, I talked to lots of girls and got the name of the girl that I think is the best looking, although thin (it is Patricia). This bar also was packed, just like Seamans. I popped my V, but then waited an hour for Juliana (#3), my new regular there.
Juliana (rm 9) is an interesting story.
When I first met her, she was new at Carolina and had never done this work before. She was very aggressive and clumsy in the bar, not fun at all for most guys. Clingy and desperate and unhappy. After my "training sessions" (see previous reports), she has really blossomed. She smiles all the time, she is quieter, not aggressive anymore, very sexy in the bedroom (for me, YMMV). I can tell she is making a lot more money - I had to wait an hour because she was "occupado". It is like she finally got her confidence. And she realizes that she is in the best club in St Maarten for a girl who wants to make money.
The session was great, the V worked perfectly, I had no problem achieving a second "leche" in the same afternoon.
Left Carolina at 430pm and drove to Defiance. Walked in the bar, said hello to 2 new girls at the bar and shook the hand of Judy, the bartender. I asked for an orange juice and asked the 2 girls what they would like. They were surprised and pleased and came around the corner of the bar to sit on either side of me: Camila from somewhere near Medellin (white skin, red hair, really beautiful face, slim bod, large cleavage that is probably enhanced, speaks a little english; and linda from Cali - slightly darker, wider, nice smile, not as beautiful, again implants I would guess. I had a very nice 10 minute chat with these 2 girls, during which I said hello to 3 other girls that I know and got kisses on the cheek, including Juliana #2, the girl who gave a great first session and a bad second session (perhaps because of unneccessary jealousy) and who I have not seen since. She was very welcoming once again, but she pales in comparison to Camila, who I hope to return to try next week.
That is it for this week in St Maarten, lots of cute new girls.
-zing
I am a frequent reader of the the St. Maarten board and I have always been anxious to check out these clubs. This past Wednesday my cruise ship stopped off and I ditched my companions and made a quick dash to Carolina's and Seamans.
Based on the excellent information on this board I hopped in a taxi at the end of Front. St and I was at Carolina's in 5 mins for a $4 at noon.
The layout was different than I expected and the club area smaller than I expected but the experience was still great. I walked in the side entrance into Carolina's and saw about 15 women hanging out with about as many guys at the bar and at the tables. I would say that the ratio of good looking to just ok at about 50%. Not bad at all.
I sat down for a bit and after a few mins I was approached by Gina. After a few mins of chit chat (I know some Spanish) we made our way back to her room. The room was clean with a well made up bed. On the dresser mirror there was a picture of her and a younger relative stuck to one corner. On top of the clothes rack was the ever present Bible. We got undressed and Gina started getting me warmed up, gradually working her way into a covered BJ. She smelled very clean so I reciprocated with some DATY. I have read on the boards about all the massages exchanged and other niceties but being my first time I wasn't smooth enough to make her feel comfortable enough and given the growing crowd outside I decided not to linger too much. Overall the sex was great, she didn't rush me that much and I delivered a nice dose of 'leche' after some missionary and doggie activities.
I showered up and the only draw back was that the towel was dirty. I'll definitely walk with my own next time. Outside I stuck around a bit to see what else was around. There were a couple of new hot lookers that were having lunch and I was tempted to stick around but decided to take the short walk to Seamans before I had to return to Front st.
Overall, I have to say the experience was a good one. The ease, selection, safety and cleanliness are second to none especially for the price. I'll have to come back again to St. Maarten where I don't have just 2 hours to kill.
My Seaman's report will be posted soon.
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[QUOTE=DinoEggs]Overall, I have to say the experience was a good one. The ease, selection, safety and cleanliness are second to none especially for the price. I'll have to come back again to St. Maarten where I don't have just 2 hours to kill.[/QUOTE]A very accurate summary.
Zing
Have any of you all had any recent experiences with taking a girl out for part of the day? I have read some reports in the past, but nothing current. I am particularly interested in what the procedure is for Seaman's and Carolina. Is the price range currently the same as well? Are you expected to take the girl out, not just back to the hotel room, etc? Times, etc.
Thanks
[QUOTE=Senneca01]Have any of you all had any recent experiences with taking a girl out for part of the day? I have read some reports in the past, but nothing current. I am particularly interested in what the procedure is for Seaman's and Carolina. Is the price range currently the same as well? Are you expected to take the girl out, not just back to the hotel room, etc? Times, etc.
Thanks[/QUOTE]
I took a girl out of carolina 2 weeks ago for the afternoon. here is how it works. if they want to leave the club between 11am and 4pm, you must pay $45 to the bar, plus whatever you negotiate with the girl (zero to $200). you can go wherever you and the girl agree: beach, your hotel, etc. the girl must be back in the bar to sign in by 8pm (4pm to 8pm is their free time, no bar fine for this time period).
if you want to take girl out from 8pm to 11am, the bar fine at carolina is $45. again plus whatever you negotiate with the girl (say $200).
seamans is the same, except the bar fine may be different (it is $100 at night).
hope that helps.
-zing
Have been to Sint Maarten for the past 7 years. Have visited all the sex bars never paid over $40.00 for fun. Get a tan before you go(all over) and act like a local. Most of the time you can get a pretty good deal. Be nice! I always go in the afternoon 11 to about 5. Anyone be there in July ? I will be there from June 30 thur July 23 for fun,sun,and mongering! My time is free during the day as my wife likes to sun all day. See ya there! Dallas
[QUOTE=Jazz586]Have been to Sint Maarten for the past 7 years. Have visited all the sex bars never paid over $40.00 for fun. Get a tan before you go(all over) and act like a local. Most of the time you can get a pretty good deal. Be nice! I always go in the afternoon 11 to about 5. Anyone be there in July ? I will be there from June 30 thur July 23 for fun,sun,and mongering! My time is free during the day as my wife likes to sun all day. See ya there! Dallas[/QUOTE]I should be in st maarten a couple of times a week during July, and I always go in the afternoons between 11am and 5pm too!
-zing
As promised I am giving my report on my first visit to Seamans.
I took the short walk from Carolina's over to Seaman's. Funny that on the way there the same cab driver that dropped me off was just leaving after dropping off some other people. We chatted and he confirmed that I was indeed heading in the right direction.
When I entered the club right around 12:50 it was definitely more crowded that Carolina's. I am not sure why that is as the clientele seemed to be about the same. My eyes adjusted to the light and strolled to the back and grabbed a seat at the only empty table. The were more girls and few lookers while there were also more girls on the lower side of the looks scale than Carolina's, not a whole lot though. In all I would say that anyone can find their type in Seaman's as much as in Carolina.
Before long I was approached by a young dark haired woman, her name escapes me now but begins with an M. I was definitely tempted. I had a big breasted taller woman in Carolina's and was looking to go the opposite way at Seamans and she fit the bill -Natural boobs, beautiful face. We sat there chatting and she was trying to get me back in the room right away but I decided to bide my time a bit. Then, she walked by - tiny, cute, fake rack, blonde hair, ample ass. The fake rack wasn't what I was looking for but with the whole package put together I couldn't resist. I politely excused myself from present company and made my way over to Natalia ( maybe). After a quick chat we headed to the back.
She had to get keys to another room as it seems hers was occupied. Meanwhile I was just watching that ass sway in front of me. Heaven!
We finally make it to the room and it was as clean as Carolina's. I didn't see the bathroom until later and it wasn't bad. Natalia disrobed and I finally got to see her breasts and.... i saw the bad scars from a badly executed boob job. Overall the breast shape was nice but around the nipples were badly damaged. She seemed a little embarrassed about it but I told her it was ok and she settled down.
The session was good. Again I wouldn't say GFE but she was talkative and energetic as we tried out the different positions. As this was my second within the hour I was able to go with some more gusto and there were no complaints from her.
After we were done she stayed to shower up and I headed back outside. I observed the scene for a bit and then hopped in a cab back to Front. St.
Like I said in my last report I would definitely return to St. Maarten. Flights from the US are averaging $500 - $600 and above which puts it out of the realm of a quick weekend trip for me especially when you add in the cost of hotels. I'll keep my eye out for deals though. I'll live vicariously through other member's reports in the meantime.
Dino
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I have 3 novias in the clubs of St Maarten: Claudia of Venezuela at Seamans, Juliana of Colombia at Carolina, and now Camila of Colombia at Defiance. I spent about 70+ minutes with each of these 3 girls today and gave each girl $100. (There is also Eva of Petit Chateau, who is back in Colombia and who I talk to on the telephone once a week).
Claudia is the only one that says "I love you" over and over, but she is the one who acts the least like someone in love (although she gives great sexual service to me). Today she gave me a gift, a CD of reflective meditation (in Spanish) with music. We also talked about my fantasy to have 2 girls at the same time - I didn't tell her I have done 2 girls before. I said I wouldn't do it if it made her jealous and unhappy. She says she would be jealous, but would arrange it - whatever I need to give me pleasure. I wish a real girlfriend had said that even once!
Juliana is the closest to really being in love with me, but she doesn't say it out loud. She just acts it out in bed. I asked her what I would be to her if I were to visit Colombia: a novio (boyfriend) or a client. Her answer was "mi novio". And she wants pictures of us together to show to all her friends in Colombia. In the shower afterwards she soaped me up and washed me thorougly, all the while asking why I don't make a baby with her.
Camila at Defiance is small, short, with dark reddish hair, beautiful face, great body (but with enhanced breasts) and speaks some English. I had a fun 10 minute chat with her last week and made a point of looking her up this week (after Claudia and Juliana!). She was surprised that I remembered her name, but still tried to put the standard moves on me at the bar (first touch your arm, then stroke your crotch). I lifted her hand off my privates and said that isn't necessary, I am already planning to go to your room. I stood up, put out a hand for her, finally saw how short she is (but hot!), and escorted her to her room. Never noticed the number.
I have not selected a woman with this beautiful a face in a while - so I was enamored. I quietly and slowly did everything that I think will make her feel good: romantic latina music, gentle touching without grabbing for the pussy or tits, massage, slow and gently building daty, no rush, etc. She didn't say she loved me, but she said she really liked me a lot (more honest) - a unique experience for her in st maarten.
Afterwards I picked up her tube of lubricant and said "you forgot this" and she laughed and said "there was no need.". Then she asked if I would see her again, because she enjoyed our time together, but she noticed that I knew a lot of girls in the bar, so must have gone with many before. I said
"Esperando para latina perfecta" (which translates as "I am waiting for the perfect latin woman") and she broke out laughing. She asked when I was coming back to st maarten and said she would like me to spend the entire afternoon with her.
I will definitely repeat with Camila, but I don't know when, as I have 2 other "girlfriends". Can I keep visiting 3 novias in a single day, and who gets to see me first? And they can't all have me for all the afternoon.
-zing
Zing,
Is there anything available in the Front Street area, i.e., where the shops and casinos are? Would like to break away from shopping group to get a quickie. Thanks!
I'll be in St Maarten with 2 of my buddies from May 27 to June 3. Any body around that week PM me and perhaps we can share a cocktail and tell some lies.
First time in SXM many times in Aruba.
I have many friends in St Nicolas. Hope to find some in SXM.
[QUOTE=Inglewood]Is there anything available in the Front Street area, i.e., where the shops and casinos are? Would like to break away from shopping group to get a quickie. Thanks![/QUOTE]
5 of the places are near front street (about 1/2 mile)! grab a cab, ask him to take you to carolina club. don't pay more than $5.
if you insist on walking, walk 4 blocks away from the beach (i.e., front street), you will come to pond edge road, with the pond on the other side.
about 300 yards from the right end of the road/pond (about in line with the dock for the cruise ship tenders), there is a new roundabout with the st maarten college across the street. take the road from the roundabout into the pond fill. ahead on the right you will see a small baseball stadium. across the street from that is Petit Chateau. open from about noon. has girls from both D.R. and colombia, not the best ones, but i have had several great friends there.... these girls will accept $30 in the afternoon, but i pay them $40 anyway, just like the other clubs, since I always pick the one that appeals to me the most.
-zing
Knew about these. Just wondered if there was anything hidden in the main tourist area.
Planning a trip to SXM in July. I have located a flight and a rental car, just need a hotel. I am looking for a veteran SXM monger to make some suggestions with the following criteria:
-The room does not have to be fancy. I don't plan on doing any TLN on my first trip. I would rather stay at a larger hotel and would like to be either at the beach or near a beach I can use.
-English; I am not good with foreign languages. Would I therefor be better off on the Dutch side?
-I don't have to be close to the brothels, but would like to be at a place where it is a simple path back and forth.
Where should I stay?
Thanks
I'm not a veteran sxm monger but I've been to sxm before.
There should be no langauge issues on the dutch side. Everyone I interacted with spoke english. On the french side I only encountered a couple of people who only spoke french. Most people on the french side also speak english.
I think almost all the big hotels were located on the dutch side. On the french side, I think most places were houses, villas etc. There is the new Westin hotel located on oyster pond (Dawn Beach). It's technically on the dutch side but its very close to the french side.
[QUOTE=Ath Trainer]Planning a trip to SXM in July. I have located a flight and a rental car, just need a hotel. I am looking for a veteran SXM monger to make some suggestions with the following criteria:
-The room does not have to be fancy. I don't plan on doing any TLN on my first trip. I would rather stay at a larger hotel and would like to be either at the beach or near a beach I can use.
-English; I am not good with foreign languages. Would I therefor be better off on the Dutch side?
-I don't have to be close to the brothels, but would like to be at a place where it is a simple path back and forth.
Where should I stay?
Thanks[/QUOTE]
I have stayed at both Divi Little Bay Hotel and Great Bay hotel. they are almost next to each other.
Bigger hotels with good parking. 10 minutes from the action, great beaches, room service and restaurants.
Great location . Very Chica Friendly.
Mel
Isg
13 days in sex heaven. The day I arrived was a special day for me my birthday. Dropped off my stuff at the boat and headed directly to Carolinas.
The fellow at the back desk suggested a girl name started with a "b" in room 8. What the hell. I tried for a BBBJ but no luck. It is the first time in a year no BBBJ. I think after reading the isg posts the girls have formed a no BBBJ pact. Anyway had some good sex cowgirl, rcg, mish. But I decided to save mi leche for later. So called it off after 40 minutes. $50-
Next stop Seamans Juliana room 18. Got an ok for a BBBJ at the bar. Fantastic ball licking great BBBJ, also some cg, rcg, and mish again held off on the leche for later but it was close after being in sex prison for 2 weeks.
Of to pick up mi novia-now esposa-
She was very happy to see me we packed up her stuff and off to the market for a few small items and back to the boat. We had a fantastic 2 ½ hour session. Just when it was getting very interesting there was a knock on the boat. Two tall 5feet 10-11 inch fantastic looking blondes. I asked them what they wanted and they said ME! Mi esposa had arranged for these two girls from Platinum or some other strip club to spend the night with me as a gift from her.
Let the debauchery begin. Without a video camera it is hard to recall the exact details.did I say hard. I have had many 2 on one but never a 3 on one. (of course there were many classic orgies but I never counted them as there were free for alls and not intimate)Every hole, every position, including a few new ones only available with a 3 on one, were explored.
We stopped at about 9 pm after 5 hours (total) of sex and showered and went to dinner.
After dinner and 100 mg of Viagra there was one moment, which was magical I had one girl coming in my mouth and 30 seconds later the second with my fingers while I was fucking the third cowgirl—too much for one penis—I exploded for the 4th time today- not bad for an old fat guy.
We continued until the sun was rising and collapsed until 1pm.
We had brunch and I dropped off the two platinum girls at their home (a real house) and went back to the boat with mi esposa. We spent the next 12 days together. Day and night from the morning bugle to lights out usually between 2 and 3 am. There were memorable moments. A few that I recall vividly. Don’t you love it when a woman pushes your head down firmly while you are having daty? Or when she puts her hands on your ass and pulls you into her while in mish? She wanted to give me a going away present so we recorded her having multiple orgasms. I am not a voyeur or kinky but listening to her come gives me a hard on. Something to listen to when I am in a wheel chair and drooling all over myself.
So ends a magical trip to sex heaven.
Mel
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Hey all,
I will be heading back to SXM a couple of times this summer to film some of the chicas. If anyone has any reccomendations on who looks perfect please post it up. If any of you would be interested in joining in or being in a movie let me know it pays cash on the spot you can email me at emcmodels at gmail. I'll probably be staying at Great Bay. Also for the newbies, Check out [url]www.spiritair.com[/url] for cheap deals on both hotels and airfare. In my 25+ years coming to sxm I've never seen such cheap flights and rooms.
hi isg members, i was in st maarten today and visited 3 clubs from 1130am to 445pm. The number of customers is down from a month ago - winter tourist season is over, number of cruise ships is way down (1 per day instead of 3 or 4), and summer european visitor season has not started yet.
but the clubs are still full of the same number of nice looking girls. so the odds are in our favor!
i visited my three regulars (sorry, no new girls to report on). all three want me to come back and spend the whole afternoon with them (this will be difficult, as i only get to town once or twice a week). I missed last week due to business and received a warm welcome on my return from all 3.
this was my second visit to camila at defiance, rm 205. this girl is really a good looker. I am trying to figure out what her negatives are: 1) silicone implants, 2) typically short, 3) nothing else. her face and hair are perfect, and her body is curvy and fit. And she is sexy and fun and uninhibited.
I came to the bar bearing a large Pizza and shared it with Camila and 2 of her friends. Ordered a Presidente beer and enjoyed my lunch with 4 cute Colombian girls. They suggested we send a piece over to the boss (el jefe) and the bartender. We gave away the left overs to other girls in the bar.
By the way, there used to be 60%+ dominicanas at this club, but now it appears to be 80-95% colombianas. I learned that they are not supposed to leave the bar or club until 430pm (unless they pay a bar fine). Same as Petit Chateau, which has the same owner.
In Camila's room, she was totally GFE. even more so than the first time. This being nice to a club girl can have a quick impact on her.
Afterwards she gave me her phone numbers in Medellin and her real name! Then asked if I was just going to tear it up after I left her room. She isn't afraid of reality. I of course plan to save it, and keep in touch when she leaves. Never know when a trip to Colombia might happen.
Then she asked me to drive her down to the gas station to buy some phone cards to call home - they don't sell any in the club (amazing - Seamans sells all kinds of cell/phone cards and now has a direct line to colombia from some phone company in the hallway between the rooms).
-zing
Hi,
I have been speaking with the owner of Defiance, and Petite.
My suggestion to him was to make a few of the motel rooms adjoining Defiance available for 24-hour rental. He would fix up the rooms to be in first class condition with a refrigerator, hot water, and a safe, good furniture, room cleaning, and new linen and towels. There would also be increased security in the evening in the parking lot.
The rooms would be available for about $50- a day. Here is the kicker. You must buy $75-$100 worth of Defiance coins to be used in trade for services rendered by the chicas. You could take them to your room or their room same rates would apply without a multa for a short stay of a few hours or less. Only the Chicas could redeem the coins for cash.
If you were to stay more than 4 days, the room would revert to $50- without any Defiance Coins. You would then be free to either take a day off or bring a Chica from another house to your room. I have been in these rooms and they are quite comfortable. It is the building to the left of Defiance as you face it from the parking lot.
I would appreciate any feedback, as the owner is anxious to proceed with this idea.
Thanks,
Mel
[QUOTE=Mel365]I would appreciate any feedback, as the owner is anxious to proceed with this idea.Mel[/QUOTE]
I don't stay overnight in st maarten very often, so my comments should not be considered very important.
say the price was $150 per night, including $100 for chicas. plus tax for the $50 room I presume, since this is a real motel/hotel.
if you stay at great bay hotel, which is closest resort to the clubs, on the beach with parking in phillipsburg, you pay $150 to $250 per night, depending upon season and shopping skills. with no chicas. the beach is not that great.
if you stay at defiance, you get at least 2 chicas a day for the same price. selection is almost as good as seamans - always some excellent girls (looks and/or service wise). and you get airco in your room, the girls have no airco in their rooms. and you can drive to seamans/carolina in 5 minutes, faster than from great bay hotel and less traffic. in fact, you can even walk down the hill and grab a taxi back up. then go to whichever beach you want to explore for the day (lorient, etc).
sounds like a good deal to me, assuming he can actually get the workers to really fix the rooms up (there is a construction boom in st maarten right now).
-zing
[QUOTE=Mel365]I would appreciate any feedback, as the owner is anxious to proceed with this idea.
[/QUOTE]
I'll be in SXM next week, I'm ready to be his first guest as a test. ;)
I was in SXM for vacation last week and would like to thank all of the SXM regulars for their reports and accuracy thereof. As usual, your reports score bulls eyes. I tried Casa Blanca three somes twice, Petite Chateau one shot and score, Seamans a duece and Defiance one goal. All pleasant experiences with nice Chicas. Recieved many contact numbers and requests for dates away from the clubs which I could not partake in because I had to keep the war department occupied also. I will be back in five months to try Carolinas and Crystals. I tried Sunset last October and was not impressed.
As an aside, as of right now if anyone is planning to stay with the French, the Euro is going to kill ya. $ 1.30 US = 1 Euro, ouch. If I did not have a hotel promotion on the French side, I might have slept with the Dutch.
isg, some news:
the good dutch cook in the carolina restaurant is gone, so the menu is back to empanadas and bad antillean food (rice, peas, stew chicken, etc.).
there is a striking tall, slim, beautiful black girl at seamans who just arrived. like a model. no other info on her. others please report!
the decline of the dominicana: when I started 18 months ago, there were girls from dominican republic everywhere (seamans, defiance, petit chateau, total at casa blanca, and even 1 at carolina). only carolina had predominately colombian girls.
today, there are almost no dominican girls at seamans or defiance, majority colombians at petit chateau and none at carolina. only casa blanca is still 100% d.r.
i don't know why this is. dominican girls range in color from light brown to very dark, are earthy and perhaps a bit agressive, but can be a lot of fun.
colombian girls range from pure white with blue eyes (rare) right through to black, but with light brown as the average color. they are more sophisticated, perhaps a llittle bit better educated than the typical d.r. girl. the d.r. girls do not go in much for silicone enhancements, while the columbians do it as soon as they can afford it.
since carolina was the first club with exclusively colombian girls and took a lot of the business, i wonder if this impacted the other club owners. I have no real way of knowing. it could also be that the economy in d.r. has improved slightly while that in colombia has declined, but my reading of the financial press suggests just the opposite.
-zing
oh yeah, my sessions today.
here is what happened with my 3 regulars today:
1. claudia rm 11 seamans. last time she complained that i only came for a bbbj and cuddling, no fucky fucky. so i promised her action for the next time. today i came prepared to fuck her brains out. however, when it came time to warm her up with daty, she closed her legs and made it hard for me to really stimulate her. eventually i covered up, we did it in missionary and then doggie. i faked an orgasm, because i thought she was faking. claudia is a normal, good looking womanl from venezuela, gives a great bj, treats me nice, but wants me to want to fuck her without her wanting it herself. that is probably normal with a working girl, but this one keeps saying she loves me and misses me, etc.
2. why don't i believe claudia. because juliana (rm 8, carolina), really wants me. after a few hugs and kisses, her pussy starts to engorge and drip juices and she really wants me. she doesn't go on continuously saying how she loves me, she just ravages me. and climaxes too. i didn't go see her today because based on routard's experience, this is just a little too dangerous. if she is really seriously emotionally attached to me, that is not what i bargained for. and she is a young girl, doing this work for the first time, probably vulnerable, not the best looker at carolina, probably not making much money, gaining a little weight every week on the high-carb diet there. wants to give me a pedicure and go out on an afternoon to see a movie!
3. camila in rm 205 defiance. third visit. gets better every time. spent 2.5 hours with her, eating kentucky fried chicken, receiving a great massage from her, screwing, and watching a dvd on my computer. she doesn't go on and on about how she loves me, just says that she likes me, likes making love with me, lets herself climax, but always makes sure that I am satisfied.
Count me in! It would be a great escape from where I usually stay, which for business reasons is not chica friendly. I could keep my usual place while being able to "sneak away" for an affordable night or two. Sounds good to me.
[QUOTE=Mel365]Hi,
I have been speaking with the owner of Defiance, and Petite.
My suggestion to him was to make a few of the motel rooms adjoining Defiance available for 24-hour rental. He would fix up the rooms to be in first class condition with a refrigerator, hot water, and a safe, good furniture, room cleaning, and new linen and towels. There would also be increased security in the evening in the parking lot.
The rooms would be available for about $50- a day. Here is the kicker. You must buy $75-$100 worth of Defiance coins to be used in trade for services rendered by the chicas. You could take them to your room or their room same rates would apply without a multa for a short stay of a few hours or less. Only the Chicas could redeem the coins for cash.
If you were to stay more than 4 days, the room would revert to $50- without any Defiance Coins. You would then be free to either take a day off or bring a Chica from another house to your room. I have been in these rooms and they are quite comfortable. It is the building to the left of Defiance as you face it from the parking lot.
I would appreciate any feedback, as the owner is anxious to proceed with this idea.
Thanks,
Mel[/QUOTE]
I have also been to all the above mentioned places. Great establishments. I was a regular of a girl from Seamons back in Sept-October. She was there the typical three months then, back to Colombia. Anyone of you regulars frequent the place then? Her name was Lorena. A small 5-0 fair skinned beauty. Incredible body, with nice big tits (D), and the nicest ass imaginable.
I'm curious if anyone else had the pleasure of getting to know her. I could even post a pic to jog your memory.
Let me know! : P
Hey,
Did any of you regulars visit Seamons regularily around Sept-Dec of last year? I spent a bunch of time with a girl named Lorena. Short, rather lighter skinned Colombian girl. Real sexy, short with big guns.
Anyone else have the privledge of meeting her? I have pics I can post if need be to jog your memory. LOL
I also know your friend Lorena. I know her VERY well actually. Isn't she the most beautiful girl!
I have a bunch of pics I should put up.
This is the Lorena I here others talk about. I know her VERY well!! :P
[QUOTE=Lechman]This is the Lorena I here others talk about. I know her VERY well!! :P[/QUOTE]Brings back memories. Went to the room with Lorena once or twice, but always sat and talked with her in the bar even when I was with another woman. Very enjoyable person. Thanks for posting.
-zing
Well, looks like Lorena was very popular with our group.
I also spent some time with her.
Mel
They weren't showing up.
Newbie mistake!
What? You all fucked my girl friend? You fucked my girl friend? (imagine an angry maffioso Robert de Niro look a like saying this). :mad:
The magic of the ISG community: we are living thousands of km from each other and we manage to put our dick in the same pussy! :D
More seriously, Lorena is indeed a great girl. In fact I had met her only once just before leaving SXM and I have never seen her back again. Untill these pictures. Thanks Lechman. I have to add at this point that she is more beautiful in real. Do you have her phone or Email in Colombia by any chance? I would love to meet her there during my trip in July. I had promised her we would see us again.
Your girlfriend? Yes, she is much more beautiful in person as well. I agree.
I do have her contact info, as a matter of fact. Contact me. You too Mel.
I always am late in doing these reports. I was on this nice little island for a few months. Here is a brief take of things.
The class act has to be Carolinas. Across from the sporting complex and a dive brothel, it is a little nondescript yellow building. Everything reported here is accurate. 4 to 8 pm is dead, dead, dead. The girls are either shopping or at Orient Beach. Trust me, they all are there. One of the coolest beaches. All party favours available, and clothing optional. The best looking girls are at Carolinas. Mostly paid for tits which is fine by me. They are generally pretty laid back. They may hang in the little restaurant next door, or sit in a chair or casually make the rounds. Not a lot of pressure. $40 seems to do the trick no problem plus three for a room. Technically it is for 20 minutes although time has never seemed to be a problem. They all would like to spend a day out and this place has a good take out rate (about $40). It is higher at most others. Do not miss.
Seaman's Club is right on the aptly named Sucker Garden Road. Hard to miss. You need a car in this town though. I haven't figured out who are the suckers, them or us. Also a winner this place. Good looking girls. A little harder to hang and have a drink or three first than Carolinas. Rooms are good enough, but no porn. At the bar there is porn and telenovelas for las chicas. It is a good place, but in my view a fair step down from Carolinas. Still, you should go. $100 plus girl for takeout. Steep and makes no sense to me.
Sunset Bar is further down the road away from town. A big yellow sign with a chica pulling her bikini up her crotch tells you that you are in the right place. Parking is shit, the crowd is sketchy at night. Chicas are decent enough though. I just don't see any reason to go here over the other two.
Casa Blanca is the last before the French side. There is a nice little harbour just past. Captain Olivers resort is here. A good choice for the discerning mongerer. Offseason rates around a hundred bucks. You could live your whole life between the brothels and here. This place is all hard core Dominicanas. They are aggressive. No peace here.
Rent a car. Stay at Olivers or Holland House in town. Maho is a cool area to be with an overpriced titty bar. I find it hard to give a russian 20 for a table dance when 40 lets me fuck the same girl. Just don't get it. The problem with Maho is it leaves you a very long drive on a dark windy road. I drink enough that I don't want this drive.
Another side note. There is a bar at the end of the airport runway. It has a little hut that rents beach chairs. The black guy there can provide absolutely anything you might require during your stay.
A nice island. Good poker games. It is cool to have freebie takeout in the afternoons. Orient Beach is well worth the effort. I maxed my visa and left because I had to. Still the time was right to go. You could easily spend a couple weeks here and not get bored at all.
[QUOTE=Lechman]Your girlfriend? [/QUOTE]
Don't worry, just kidding ;)
Unfortunately your PM is not activated, you need to make a subscription. If you don't want to, could you contact me on another forum? Try [url]www.youppie.net[/url], I'll have the same name on it.
I'll be in SXM this week-end. Anyone around?
You should sigh up for the subscription. You can not receive private messages without it.
Thanks,
Mel
I just discovered Yahoo Instant Messenger. Absolutely fabulous. I have spent much time on the internet sending mi novias instant messages. The phone feature is amazing. We talk for 20.30 minutes at a time for free. The sound quality is better than a telephone. A great feature for a serious monger.
Mel
[QUOTE=Routard]Don't worry, just kidding ;)[/QUOTE]LoL, I was just kidding too, no worries! ;)
I won't be around, but I know someone who will. He lives on SXM. Maybe if he reads this he will find a way to contact you.
Hi guys,
I moved off the island about six weeks ago. On my final night, after a night full of partying, I went out to Carolina's for something I had never done before. I took two girls to the back at the same time. I went into the bar and Laura, the girl who was famous here for BBBJ w/ CIM came up to me immediately. I told her what I wanted and she showed me a few of her friends and I just picked one. So the three of us went to the back.
We got on the bed and Laura starts off with a BBBJ while her friend is rubbing her tits all in my face and everything else. I was kinda drunk at the time so things aren't entirely clear. So after a bit I signaled I was ready to screw and they threw a condom on me in about a half second and her friend mounted me for a some cowgirl action. That lasted a while, and then I signaled for them to switch and *wham* they ripped the condom off and slammed a new one on almost instantly. Laura got on and I did her for a while, then I went back to doing her friend doggy style and I had Laura get under and was licking my balls while doing her friend. They switched a final time and I finished inside of Laura.
It was fucking great :-) And that's it for me! I'm stuck back in America. It was a pleasure meeting a couple of you guys, really nice people. I hope I return to St. Maarten again soon to visit the chicas again.
Adios!
[QUOTE=Sxmperson101]I moved off the island about six weeks ago. [/QUOTE]
Sorry to hear that.
[QUOTE=Sxmperson101]I went out to Carolina's for something I had never done before. I took two girls to the back at the same time. ... It was fucking great :-) And that's it for me! [/QUOTE] An excellent way to end your adventures in SXM. Good luck,... and it was fun meeting at carolina and swapping stories.
-zing
This is perhaps a ridiculous question.
If you had to choose between St. Maarten or Santa Domingo, which would it be?
or how about Puerto Plata where Blackbeard resort is? That place seems like it is AWESOME!! Never been there but would like to know how it compares to SXM.
Chris H
Just trying to figure out what destination to choose in terms of value.
[QUOTE=Punjiman]This is perhaps a ridiculous question.
If you had to choose between St. Maarten or Santa Domingo, which would it be?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Punjiman]This is perhaps a ridiculous question.
If you had to choose between St. Maarten or Santa Domingo, which would it be?[/QUOTE]
it all depends on what you are looking for. read Routards 4 day report from Santo Domingo (just recently posted) and his summary. Then go to the Reports of Distinction for The Antilles and read this summary of St Maarten.
t. Obviously santo domingo is way bigger and has way more chicas, options, etc. However, they are all dominicanas.
In st maarten you have 7 venues, about 4 of them are reasonable, 5 if you include petit chateau in the afternoon. girls come from colombia mainly, with a minority from d.r. and a very few from other countries.
prices are about the same. probablyh a bit cheaper in santo domingo.
sxm is safer.
-zing
[QUOTE=Zing23]it all depends on what you are looking for. read Routards 4 day report from Santo Domingo (just recently posted) and his summary. Then go to the Reports of Distinction for The Antilles and read this summary of St Maarten.
t. Obviously santo domingo is way bigger and has way more chicas, options, etc. However, they are all dominicanas.
In st maarten you have 7 venues, about 4 of them are reasonable, 5 if you include petit chateau in the afternoon. girls come from colombia mainly, with a minority from d.r. and a very few from other countries.
prices are about the same. probablyh a bit cheaper in santo domingo.
sxm is safer.
-zing[/QUOTE]
no comment about Puerto Plata?
Chris H
Thanks Zing! SXM it is!!
[QUOTE=Zing23]it all depends on what you are looking for. read Routards 4 day report from Santo Domingo (just recently posted) and his summary. Then go to the Reports of Distinction for The Antilles and read this summary of St Maarten.
t. Obviously santo domingo is way bigger and has way more chicas, options, etc. However, they are all dominicanas.
In st maarten you have 7 venues, about 4 of them are reasonable, 5 if you include petit chateau in the afternoon. girls come from colombia mainly, with a minority from d.r. and a very few from other countries.
prices are about the same. probablyh a bit cheaper in santo domingo.
sxm is safer.
-zing[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Mel365]Well, looks like Lorena was very popular with our group.
I also spent some time with her.
Mel[/QUOTE]Do tell me about your experience. I have a rather interesting one to talk about. Jeje
Routard,
I sent you a PM pm the youppie thing.
Anyone familiar with the Sea View hotel?
Just looking for something basic and clean (all I need is a bed!).
Also, they have no parking. And that I can park on the street until 9am. Will that be a problem?
Thanks for the help!
hi guys, took juliana (rm 9 at carolina for another month) shopping in phillipsburg and then to orient beach (salsa bar - see prev reports for directions). she has been in st maarten for 2months, first time away from colombia, first time as a working girl (and last time, according to her). 12 year old son, so she is not that young, but unsophisicated. thinks i am incredibly wonderful (i am nice to the girls). so wonderful that she forgot that today is medical exam day. since she spent the whole day with me from 1110am, she missed her exam and had to pay a multa (fine) to the house.
she has never driven a car, or operated a computer or a camera. same as eva, the girl that i made friends with at petit chateus.
i loaned my colombian movie dvd (maria full of grace) to camila at defiance (rm 205), who gave it to her amiga with a portable dvd player, who did not know how to get the dvd out of the case (you press down in the center to release it first). so the other chica broke my dvd.
these girls are from the 3rd world. they may know a lot about men and manipulating them, but many things that we take for granted are absolutely brand new to them. especially on their first trip away from colombia.
-zing
p.s.juliana told me that as of june 1st they have a chinese couple running the restaurant at carolina and the food is pretty good.
Funny, went to pie in Carolina's WC and found Mel's and Zing's graffiti on the wall. I addded mine too.
[B]Routard
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Zing
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Mel
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[QUOTE=Zing23]p.s.juliana told me that as of june 1st they have a chinese couple running the restaurant at carolina and the food is pretty good.[/QUOTE]
I confirm this, there is now a Chinese woman in the kitchen offering chinese food. However, The Duch guy is still running the restaurant and the Dutch snacks (kroket, frikandel, loempia) are still available. Also, there is always a daily Colombian menu available for the chicas and in the morning American and Continental breakfast. Great improvement. As soon as Carolina wil offer rooms for the guests too, there will be no more reason to leave the building anymore.
I will be making my virgin (so to speak) trip to SMX July 20 through the 29th. I think I may have made a mistake from what it sounds like because I am staying in Maho but I will have a car rented. I have read many of the reports and I gotta say. Damn am I looking forward to getting there. I have been to the DR before and enjoyed it, but I am looking forward to experiencing some Colombian treats. I am traveling solo so it doesn't make a difference to me, but what is the best time of day to go to the clubs? Is it worth checking out the regular spots at Orient Bay for any stray workers? I have read the posts on daytime take-out, is that fairly easy to arrange. I probably have about 20 more questions and I am doing my best to gather information from the post already on here. I am just really looking forward to being there.
Routard,
30 more days and I will be out of sex prison.
I have not yet made reservations for Bogota but will advise.
Glad to see that the dynamic trio is represented in the watrer closet.
Waiting eagerly for you sxm update, you lucky guy.
Mel
[QUOTE=Mel365]Waiting eagerly for you sxm update, you lucky guy.
[/QUOTE]
You bet! Expect as usual a great update.
Shucks! I must remember to walk with my paint brush next time I visit the loo at what has to be the most outstanding place of pleasure in the Caribbean. By the way, does anyone know if Carolina of Carolina is still there? I will be there in July and would hate to miss out on that beautiful anal princess.
Alan
[QUOTE=lookin4it]I will be making my virgin (so to speak) trip to SMX July 20 through the 29th. I think I may have made a mistake from what it sounds like because I am staying in Maho but I will have a car rented. I am traveling solo so it doesn't make a difference to me, but what is the best time of day to go to the clubs? .[/QUOTE]
I stayed out near the Maho just past the airport and found that the location was ideal and the drive was only 20 minutes or less to get to the area of the clubs.
However if it is raining and you happen to catch the bridge opening the traffic gets to be a real pain. THe bridge opens at 11am and I think 4pm.
I enjoyed getting to the clubs at around 11.30 as the crowd was small and there is a good selection of girls. At 4.30pm it becomes very quiet with most of the girls sleeping or shopping. It all starts again at 8pm but I usually had other activities for the evenings.
I will be coming through later in the summer for a couple of days of fun on my way south.
Have fun
kk
[QUOTE=Kit Karson]I enjoyed getting to the clubs at around 11.30 as the crowd was small and there is a good selection of girls. At 4.30pm it becomes very quiet with most of the girls sleeping or shopping. It all starts again at 8pm but I usually had other activities for the evenings.[/QUOTE]Thanks kk.
I am glad to hear that. My plan was hopefully of to go on my pussy raids during the day and then hang out at the bars near the hotel at night. Maybe find some local or tourist hotties looking to unwind. It sounds like there are a lot of real good "regular" places in Maho. But, I think I will stay away from the Platinum Club. (I am hoping the daytime activities drains my need for that.) I take it that, other than the over-expensive strip clubs, there is no action around Maho?
If you, or anyone else, has any other advice, let me know. I promise a full and comprehensive report when I return!
Thanks, again.
[QUOTE=Lookin4it]Thanks kk.
I am glad to hear that. My plan was hopefully of to go on my pussy raids during the day and then hang out at the bars near the hotel at night. Maybe find some local or tourist hotties looking to unwind. It sounds like there are a lot of real good "regular" places in Maho. But, I think I will stay away from the Platinum Club. (I am hoping the daytime activities drains my need for that.) I take it that, other than the over-expensive strip clubs, there is no action around Maho?
If you, or anyone else, has any other advice, let me know. I promise a full and comprehensive report when I return!
Thanks, again.[/QUOTE]Hi,
You might want to try Cheri's cafe (live music, good food and nice looking tourists) in the evenings which is in the middle of Maho. Also, try the sunset cafe which is a 3 minute drive from Cheri's.
Lou
i had planned to do something new in sxm. iwanted to take an escort girl at [b] selina [/b]and go with her to a swingersclub [b]241[/b]. but the day before i left for sxm, i met one of my business partners. the guy was depressed, his sentimental life was a disaster. he needed someone to talk and explained me everything. divorce, unable to see his kid, juridical issues with the mother claiming for money, no sex life for almost two years…you get the picture. this was his lucky day, the guy had no idea he was talking to [b]routard[/b]. i made him book right away a ticket to sxm and told him to be at the airport next morning, i would take care of everything.
next day, we took our plane together, arrived at sxm, took a renting car, took our rooms at the hotel and went out for dinner. i stopped at [b]carolina’s [/b]restaurant and offered him to try dutch snacks. he had no idea of course this was a brothel as the restaurant doesn’t look like a brothel. a couple of colombianas were having dinner too at the table next of us. i made eye contact with one of the girls and he noticed it. “did you see that hot girl, she watched you!”. i stood up and went to se the girls, invited them to join us and of course they did. we introduced ourselves and i asked one of the girls if they were on holydays in sxm. she watched at me embarrassed, wondering if i knew i was in a brothel and answered no. i asked again:” y en que te dedicas?” the girls started to laugh, i too and added that i was just joking. but when i told them that my buddy had no idea where he was, this made them laugh even more. my buddy didn’t understand any word of spanish, was amazed how i had managed to bring the chicas to our table and even more how i managed to make them laugh so much. at that moment i was something close to god in his eyes.
i then explained everything to him, and he felt more relaxed, as the girls were already initiating body contact. it didn’t go further, as he had to take cash before at phillisburg. when we came back, it was already 8pm, and we went straight to the bar area of [b]carolina[/b]. girls were signing in at the bar, which allowed us to get a picture of the available girls. we didn’t stay alone very long, soon each of us had a chica in our arms. my buddy was with a blonde girl and before i could do anything, they went already to the room. newby mistake, i had not explained him everything. indeed, he came back 10 minutes later and was deeply disappointed. she had rushed the session, took a phone call in the middle of the session and had even asked him for 60$ at the end. i felt sorry for him, the poor guy managed to have bad luck even at [b]carolina[/b].
i had a pretty girl in my arms. her name was [b]johanna (room 8)[/b]. surprisingly, she had a russian look, not a colombian look. dark straight hairs, clear eyes and very white skin. she made great effort to be nice and smiling, so i decided to have my first pop with her. at the room we undressed but she didn’t take her bra off. i tried to undress her completely and discover a wound on her breast. this turned me off, and i asked what happened. she explained how a cracked rasta had assaulted her in her room and the wound on her breast was his bite. i was in state of shock, as she gave me all the details and kept smiling. i asked her how she managed to continue working and not being scared each time. i was impressed about her positive attitude, her courage. i felt guilty being turned off by the wound, as this was the last thing she deserved from me. yes, i had great sex with her simply because i admired her.
when i came back again to the bar, my buddy had again another girl in this arms. she looked at me and i knew it once again. she was the right one, my gps (girlfriend pussy sensor) was clearly blinking again. unfortunately, she was already in my buddy’s arm and the poor guy needed it more than i. i sat next to them, and the girl couldn’t leave the guy, but smiled at me. i told my buddy that this time he picked up the right girl. unfortunately, she seemed to prefer making conversation with me and loosed interest for my buddy. her name was [b]andrea (room 13)[/b] a sexy little spinner with huge enhanced breast. she was definitely not my type of girl in her physical look, but for some reason there seemed to be a strong mutual attraction. we joked a lot and soon we stood up dancing on bachata music. while dancing, i felt guilty for my buddy. i explained her it was his first time in such a place, that he was unlucky with women, hadn’t had sex for a long time and needed tenderness. i asked her if she could help my buddy, giving him the time of his life and she agreed. i know, it was weird.
she went back to him and soon they went to the room. during that time i watched the line-up. i was a bit disappointed, there were no more than 20 girls and i didn’t seen anyone fancying me more than [b]andrea[/b]. i would have preferred meeting another girl than going with the same girl as my buddy, but my gps didn’t detect anything else.
they went for a long time, i knew she would take great care of him. indeed, he came back with a great smile. i had done my duty. [b]andrea[/b] came back and needless to say, she came straight to me. we stayed a long time together and had a lot of fun. she is a funny girl, we kept laughing for more than an hour. we enjoyed our company and we both didn’t seem to be in a hurry to go to the room. but when she joked to me: “go with me to the room or you will have wet dreams of me”, i just couldn’t refuse. this was the funniest invitation a girl ever made to me in a brothel. once in the room, we just kept making jokes. she was even making jokes about my buddy’s first session, imitating a girl interrupting a session for a phone call. i just kept laughing and wondered how i could get in the mood for sex. i had to stop her jokes, and there was no other way than preventing her to speak. i had no put something in her mouth. it could have been my dick, but i preferred to kiss her. the silence made the atmosphere become different, especially because it lasted. yes, we both discovered how good the taste was from our lips. we just kept kissing, and forgot about the sex. we stayed for a while enjoying kissing. i was focused on her face, didn’t really look at her body. when we stopped kissing, she joked again, the atmosphere became again different, took a condom and gave me a wild rodeo ride. i would no define it as gfe, fun is a better word to describe the session. we took a shower together and i realized our session was already running for almost an hour. i had forgotten my buddy outside. i explained her i had to take care of him and that i had promised him to show all the other casas. she smiled at me, and told me she would wait for me as soon as we were finished with our tour.
it was already midnight, we exited and i showed my buddy all the casas. we started with [b]crystal [/b]in front of carolina. i was surprised as there were probably 20 girls in this bar that was usually empty. there were also plenty of customers, all locals. great atmosphere, but unfortunately physical appearance of girls was way too bad. they were all fat dark skinned dominican girls.
we went to [b]petit chateau [/b]nearby. my buddy felt unsafe entering this bar in a dark area on a sand road. indeed there were only local customers as usual and there were about a dozen girls, a mix of dominican an colombian girls. my buddy noticed than again physical appearance was way lower than in carolina, and i explained that carolina and seamen’s make a selection on girls.
we decided to go for [b]seamens[/b]. atmosphere was great and we decided to take a drink. there were less girls than usual, probably also 20 girls, but surprisingly i found physical appearance better than at carolina. there was a strip show going on and the crowd was as usual a great mix of asian seamen, caribbean locals, western tourists and a few latino residents. i noticed a great looking tall blond girl with a very pretty face. i approached her, her name was [b]carolina [/b]but she had a bad attitude and i didn’t insist.
one of the strippers came to me after finishing her dance. she had a great attitude and asked me if i enjoyed her show. while i was thinking that she could be of a “[b]zing’s [/b]type”, she introduced herself as [b]claudia[/b]. she was surprised when i asked her if she was venezuelan, and i explained her i was [b]zing’s [/b]friend. great talk with her, but of course couldn’t go with [b]zing’s[/b] novia. my buddy meanwhile had noticed a few girls that turned him on but preferred to go further visiting the other clubs.
we continued the road till [b]defiance[/b]. there were about a dozen colombianas and dominicanas, nothing special. i discussed with one of them, she learned me that there were air conditioned hotel rooms available for guests at a rate of 35$ a day. might be an option for some of you.
we continued our trip, i preferred not to stop late at night in the parking lot of [b]sunset retreat[/b] and we continued till [b]casablanca[/b]. they are extending the building, but it is not yet finished. as usual, there are only average dominican girls. surprisingly, there was not the usual aggressive atmosphere, as here also there were no more than 20 girls. i guess it’s because of the low season that there are fewer girls in all the clubs. our hotel was at oyster pond, my buddy asked me to go back to the hotel. i decided to continue alone and went back to [b]seamens[/b] as i had been impressed by the line-up. i dared not to go back to [b]carolina[/b] and face again [b]andrea[/b], as i didn't want my buddy to see me bringing her back to the hotel. i guess she was important to him.
at [b]seamens [/b]i had noticed a “[b]routard [/b]style” girl. she was young, petite, slim, long hair with a very pretty [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url] face. i approached her and offered her a drink. her name was [b]sandra[/b], she indeed was 22, but looked even younger. she explained me she had to make a dance, and asked me to wait for her. when she came back, it was already nearly closing time. i asked her if she would agree for a tln. she agreed for 200$ and there was no multa to pay at the bar at closing time. she asked me to pay and to wait for her to prepare herself. it was the first time for me to pay before in sxm, but what the hell, i was confident.
when she came back in jean, i knew i made a good choice. she looked great. we went back to my hotel and we took a shower together. i discovered her perfect body with natural firm breast and soft white skin. she was definitely the best looking girl of all the girls i had seen that night. once back in bed we stared to kiss. she was very sweat, eager to please and not on a rush. i asked her to go very slowly, which she did. yes, she gave gfe service, but i knew something was missing. i know, i’m a bastard, this girl has everything, but i’m still unsatisfied unless a girl gives me her soul. after what i must admit was a great session, we felt both asleep. i woke up next morning as she came close to be with her naked body clamping me from behind. i discovered her face in daylight and realized how beautiful she was. we started to kiss and had again a great sex session. i had to take care of my buddy as i had to bring him back to the airport, so i brought her back earlier to [b]seamen’s[/b]. once back i woke up my buddy to go for breakfast. when exiting the hotel, we bumped into a great looking latina girl. my buddy looked at her with his frustrating woody woodpecker’s eyes until he realized what was going on. behind her was an older western man and he suddenly understood she was one of the girls from the brothels with her customer. he smiled and he said to me: “no more frustration anymore, you’ve made me understand something”. we had breakfast at oriental beach in a typical touristic dream environment. he watched at the young beautiful couples around us and he realized he could come back anytime and have a wonderful holyday in this exotic environment together with a sexy young girl like anyone else. he had to leave right away, but i’m pretty sure he will come back another time without me. i had done my duty, maybe even saved a life.
Routard,
A perfect and detailed report.
Many many thanks.
Blastoff
[QUOTE=Lookin4it]Thanks kk.
I am glad to hear that. My plan was hopefully of to go on my pussy raids during the day and then hang out at the bars near the hotel at night. Maybe find some local or tourist hotties looking to unwind. .[/QUOTE]
In the evenings I went out to a couple of Casinos , visited the Platinum club a couple of times and had a great time joshing with the girls. Well educated and the majority are very intelligent. I must admit I did have two dances one night with a really nice girl and after the second dance questioned myself why I was wasting my money when I could be over at Carolinas screwing my brains out. There are some great bars but I saw very few women that I wanted to spend my free time with. The daytime activities really take the edge off the night time .
Restaurants are plentiful and there are some great ones on the island.
Daytime was reserved for the clubs and I would visit two usually start in Carolinas and then move up the hill to Defiance for lunch in the the little grill just inside the entrance. Check out the girls although I never found any to my taste and then shoot back down the hill to Seamans and have some more fun in there.
kk
[QUOTE=Routard]I had planned to do something new in SXM. Iwanted to take an escort girl at [B] Selina [/B]and go with her to a swingersclub [B]241[/B]. But the day before I left for SXM, .
Thanks Routard I really enjoyed your report.
kk
Routard,
Nice pick.
Mel
Mel,
Sandra looks greater in real life than on the pic from my cellphone. Beside, she hadn't slept so much ;)
[QUOTE=Blastoff]Routard,
A perfect and detailed report.
Many many thanks.
Blastoff[/QUOTE]
This was only day 1, not my best day, I was busy with my buddy and didn't score as good as usual. Watch for my next report of day 2, alone and 100% focused on my target. Again a true lesson on how to get GFE. :)
routard, thanks for the report.
i was in st maarten before and after you, but missed your two days. i bet you surprised claudia when you knew where she was from - i haven't seen claudia in 2 weeks as i could not get away one week and the last week i switched to one girl per afternoon for the entire afternoon, and i chose juliana (carolina rm 9) and then i went to see camila yesterday (defiance rm 205). next time i go to seamans i think i will tell claudia that I cannot continue to give her total BFE if she resists climaxing - it makes me feel foolish! (UPDATE: I just talked to claudia on the phone and she goes back to venezuela on 18 June, so I will see her one more time and not complain as it will be the last time.)
at defiance the bartender told me that the bar fine for an afternoon is $107. I said this seems high, as I paid $45 at petit chateau a few months ago and they have the same owner. she said this is the std now.
the girls must be around the club from noon until 5pm. they are free from 5pm to 8pm, but usually must spend that time cleaning their room, washing clothes, doing hair, etc. most girls NEVER get away from defiance and there is nowhere to shop within easy walking distance.
there are not many customers at defiance this month. camila told me that 3 girls went back to colombia because there was not enough work.
i mentioned last time that some of the girls are quite unsophisticated (fresh from the fields, or the barrio in most cases). Camila is just the opposite. She had a rich american latino boyfriend for 2.5 years. She travelled. He bought her a boob job (US$2000) in medellin - she said she was very afraid that she wouldn't be able to breast feed afterwards, but there was no problem. I can confirm that her nipples still respond the way they are supposed to.
I was in camila's room from 12 noon until about 330pm. talk, meal of kentucky fried, massage, cuddle, daty, bbbj where I wanted to CIM but little zinger would not cooperate, so fast and furious sex to complete.
then something unusual happened. lying next to each other, with some soothing latin music in the background, camila and i fell asleep for about 20 minutes. after we woke up, i did another first. i switched the music from latina to religious. I know that most colombianas are religious, while I am not. but i like church music, such as ave maria, etc. camila and i lay on the bed together and talked and napped and snuggled for another 45 minutes
-zing
staying in maho beach area is a good choice. this is the center of all the tourist activity, restaurants, strip clubs, night clubs, dancing, music, beach bars, etc. don't bother looking for hookers, concentrate on the casas and try your luck with tourist non-pro girls.
it is a 30 minute drive from maho to carolina/seamans etc.
but that is IF THE BRIDGE IS OPEN. when the bridge is Up, allow another 30 to 45 minute wait. for the summer, the bridge goes up at 930, 1130am and perhaps at 530pm (perhaps not, ask locally). so plan your trips accordingly. you can drive the other way through marigot, but it adds 20-30 minutes to the drive and perhaps more if the traffic in marigot is bad.
-zing
I had left my buddy at the airport and it was already 11am, so I went straight to Carolina’s restaurant. Two girls were having breakfast and one of them was…Andrea. She was happy to see me and asked me to join them. I took a coffee too. During breakfast, she received a phone call from another girl. She and another girl had escaped from Carolina to spend a day at the beach. Andrea watched outside, it was indeed a beautiful day. She told me she was not in the mood to work and would like to go to the beach too. I offered her to pay the multa and bring her to the beach too with my car. Could be great spending the day with a couple of chicas on the beach. But she told me I didn’t need to and disappeared. I didn’t understand what was going on, but soon another girl came to see me whispering in my ears to go and wait for her on the corner in front of the store.
I took my renting car and parked in front of the store. I was expecting the two girls to come, but Andrea arrived alone. She entered the car and we left. We laughed and were both exited. I didn’t mean to cheat on Carolina, hey, I can afford the 45$. But it was worth as we both had the feeling to be some kind of Bonnie and Clyde, I was not a customer anymore but a friend helping her to escape. I’m pretty sure it was a way for her to make me understand I had the “amigo” status.
During the trip, I asked her what she had to pay daily to Carolina. She explained me everything how it works and how she came to SXM. There is a woman in Bogota they need to call. She arranges everything, not only for Carolina, but also for the other clubs as well as for the other islands (Curaçao, Aruba, Bonaire…). She sends the pictures to the clubs for approval and if the club agrees, she makes up a contract. This contract allows the girls to get their visa. They need to pay for visa as well as for airplane. Once in SXM, their passport stay at immigration. They pay daily 50$ for the room and 7$ for the food (one meal at Carolina’s restaurant). All the money they earn from the customers is for them, but there are multas for a couple of things especially when they don’t write in between 10am and 11am and between 8pm and 9pm. They are free between 3am and 10am and between 4pm and 8pm. I knew basically all this, but she gave me a great summary.
I asked her if the job was difficult, and her main complain was the lack of sleep. When I asked her more specifically if it was not difficult having sex with any stranger, she said it was not a big deal. “No importa, solo es por un ratito”. She even felt that this job had given back her self-estime. She could earn money and was not anymore depending of any man. It may sound strange, but I can understand her point of view.
When I asked her where we were going, I was expecting to join the other girls, but she asked me to go anywhere, she preferred us to stay the two together. Her phone rang, but this time it was an English-speaking male voice. I discovered she could understand some English too. I asked if it was her “novio”, and she denied, claiming she was an independent girl and doesn’t need any boyfriend. He’s an American living in SXM, she gave me later some details about him, enough for me to identify him.
We arrived at Orient Beach and took 2 chairs on the beach and two drinks. Picture of paradise. The phone call seemed to have trigged even more her feelings for independence. She started the usual female bullshit about men. "Mentirosos, infieles..." But when a hooker comes with it , I can’t agree more and usually feel even guilty being a man. She was passionate in what she said, probably previous bad experiences, latinos were machos, treating women bad, and Western men were possessive, using the power of money. She was not naïve, she was aware why Western men come and marry poor women in third world countries. She focused especially on my citizenship, admitting they were “lindos” but trying to enrol women as housewifes taking away their independence. I knew she was right in everything she said.
I tried to understand why she told me all these things on this wonderful day at a paradise beach, and suddenly I understood. I asked more specifically about the American from the phone call, and yes, that was it. She admitted she had a close relationship with him, that he asked her for marriage. It was hard for me to believe why she wouldn’t go for it, as the guy has everything she could dream of. But she was scared to death sharing the rest of her life with the same guy.
- “Pero es tu trabajo aguantar hombres”
- « Si, pero solo por un ratito ! No puedo accostarme cada dia con el mismo ! »
- “Cada dia? Con mi mujer solo me accosto cada mes!”
She seemed surprised to hear that married couples have so few sex. I explained her the AW concept. Being married with a US citizen would give her an incredible status of power. I explained her how AW rule the house and what she could get in case of divorce. Power over men, she was deeply interested in what I explained to her! She appreciated very much how I listened to her, tried to understand her and gave some useful advices. She asked to go in the crystal clear water of the sea, but warned that she couldn’t swim.
Once in the sea, she needed to clamp on me to get her head out of the water. It was our first body contact of the day, as I had considered her as a friend only. I was joking with her that once again she needed a man. She joked about my citizenship and I felt her great body in my arms. The waves moved our bodies slowly up and down, and I soon felt my dick waking up. Needless to say, she felt it too! She clamped me even more and I started to laugh. I explained her how I had to face at home horrible "huelgas de sexo". She loved the idea of course and laughed. I added that women are definitely the one having power thanks to sex. I then admitted to her that on this very right moment, she could get anything she wants me from. A dangerous thing to say to a hooker, I admit. But she looked into my eyes, grateful to hear what is probably for her the most beautiful thing a man can say to her.
She suddenly kissed me. I was not expecting this, this was a true passionate kiss in an romantic exotic environment. I was dreaming away, we just kept on kissing and I knew from that moment that I had reached another level, I went from the “amigo” level to the “novio” level. We stayed for a while cuddling in the water untill we exited to dry under the sun. We looked at each other, smiled, and I said: "Necessitamos irnos a un habitacion ahora mismo, no quiro quedar con mis suenos mojados sobre ti". She laughed, we prepared ourselves to leave and rushed back to my hotel. We both were exited like two teenagers. Once in the room, we undressed to take a shower together, but we never reached the bathroom. We started to kiss passionately and she pushed me on my bed. Our skins had still the sand of the beach and the taste of the sea. She kissed me passionately with all the weight of her naked body on my own naked body. Each part of her body was reacting with my body contact. My dick came close to her pussy, and I felt how wet she was. I couldn’t escape from her, she had full control over me. When I entered with my dick her wet pussy, I felt the contractions translating each of her body feelings. How good is it to feel a feeling pussy! There was no way I could get control over the rhythm, she was the one in charge. She went faster and faster, stronger and stronger. God what was it good! As I have had so much sex the day before, I could easily control my orgasm. I was waiting for her to come before I could free myself in a strong orgasm. When we had finished making love, we both stayed in bed for a while, trying to understand what happened to us. We took our shower together, she washed me tenderly but didn’t say a word. There was some kind of strange silence contrasting with all the previous talk. It was as if we both felt guilty for something that shouldn’t have happened. Yes, we made love, this had nothing to do with her daily job routine. For two days she was telling me that she was not ready to me trapped by a man, and I guess she felt guilty for having let her feelings going. I too felt guilty, not wanting to be trapped again in an impossible relation with a hooker.
I had my plane to catch and had to bring her back to Carolina. I wondered what I had to do with the “money” issue. Obviously, she was not considering herself in her working time, but I didn’t want to look cheap. I especially didn’t want to commit myself again with a hooker and not paying would be again a strong sign. She asked me to leave her at the back door of Carolina, behind the tennis courts. She was not expecting money, ready to say good by.This day with her was much more worth than all the sex I have had the previous day for 300$, but I probably had not more than 60$ left in my wallet. I emptied my wallet and gave her everything that was in it, without counting it. She took it without looking at it, it was an issue for me, but obviously not for her. She said to me:”Cuidate”, and I answered to her :“Casate”. She laughed and replied with a big smile: “No!”. I felt like Kevin Costner in “Rumor has it”, being the last “novio” of Jennifer Anniston scared to death before marrying the right guy. I hope I have helped her to have a clearer view and to take the right decision.
P.S. I have some pictures too of Andrea on the beach, but I honestly can't publish pictures of girls who gave me their soul.
Kk,
Thanks again for your insight. I was hoping to divide my days up as you indicated. Daytime, go to the casas de chicas and at night just hang out in the Maho area and chase whatever is there. Though I don't know how those pickings will be. Like you said though. The daytime activities take the pressure off the nightime ones. I am sure, despite my rational intelligent thinking that Platinum Club is a waste of money considering the options on the island, that I will end up in the Platinum Club at least once to check the ladies there out. (Sometimes, I can't help myself.) I will definitely want to check out more of the island also.
Lou1800,
Thanks for the suggestions. The more input I have from you guys, the less time I will waste stumbling around to crappy places. (Although, I am sure I will do my fair share of stumbling! ) But, then again, finding the places can be half the fun.
Zing23,
I am looking forward to seeing what the tourist non-pro action is there. Having never been there before, I am just hoping that there are some hotties hanging around. Just hoping it is not dead. If they are there, even if I strike out, I will always have the next day at Seamans or Carolinas or the others to think of. So, no pressure! It sounds like I will have to get good at timing the bridge. It is good though. It will make me get my lazy ass out of bed in the morning so I get over the bridge before the late morning opening. I don't want to get stuck on the wrong side of the bridge while the freshly prepared women of the clubs are getting busy without me!
I can't wait.
Hey guys! I've been going to sxm for the past 20 years or so. I'm only 27 now and will be goin back at the end of July. I'm enjoying reading all your posts. Very helpful! But I can't see any of the pics or the maps since I'm not a member. Anyway I was wondering if any of you can email me a map of where all these places are? My email is [blue][Email address deleted by Admin][/blue] I would really appreciate it. Also which places do you guys think are the best? Talent wise and price wise? Also safety wise! Haha since this would only be one of my first times going to these "casas", do you have any tips? Something that might help me get some for cheaper or a BBBJ? Whats the secret to get a girl to spend time with you during the day? Anyway, I will shuttup now since I'm sure I'm annoying the readers. Thanx again for any of your help. You guys are like experts!
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[QUOTE=BigDikNik]Whats the secret to get a girl to spend time with you during the day? [/QUOTE]
The main secret is empathy. You're already in the wrong path if your goal is to try to get a cheap BBBJ. Don't worry to find the casas, any taxi driver will bring you there.
[QUOTE=Routard]Once in the sea, she needed to clamp on me to get her head out of the water. [/QUOTE]You were embracing Andrea in the ocean at Orient Bay on Sunday and I was embracing Juliana in the ocean at Orient Bay on Monday. It was a great feeling!
I don't think most of the Colombianas who come to St Maarten ever have a chance to learn to swim.
-zing
[QUOTE=Zing23]I don't think most of the Colombianas who come to St Maarten ever have a chance to learn to swim.
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And we lucky bastards take advantage of it instead of helping them to learn swimming. ;)
Maintaining 3 "girlfriends" at the chica clubs in st maarten at the same time is turning out to be a lot of work.
Today I went to see Claudia in rm 10 at Seamans, exactly when they opened at 11am, because she is leaving for home in 8 days. I didn't spend a V pill on this visit, because I figured I would get a bbbj to completion and not need it. That is what happened. We spent a lot of time together, listening to music, massaging, snuggling, etc. Near the end she got a cellphone call from a friend of hers who works at Defiance. After the call, she asked if I knew Defiance and had visited there. During the call I heard her mention the name of my novia there, Camila, so I said I knew of it, and had visited girls there from time to time. "Mucho fucky fucky for you at Defiance" she said, but with a smile and a good nature. So she knows approximately what I do at that other club. Good thing she didn't ask me about Carolina, where I have another novia.
I left some money under her cellphone, exchanged email addresses, and parted on friendly terms.
I headed up to Defiance about 1230pm. It was very quiet. Few girls in the bar, in the restaurant, or even in the hallways to their rooms. I had told Camila (rm 205, very petite, redish hair, from Medellin, implants, recommended) that I would take her to the beach, but now I didn't really have time for a really good beach visit (due to schedule problems) and I thought I would just spend a couple of hours in her room. So while I was waiting in the bar, I popped my Vitamin V (later turned out to be waste, luckily it was an inexpensive generic V that I bought at the Philippsburg Pharmacy).
I tracked down Camila via a cellphone call to her friend Diana and finally greeted her in her room by lifting her completely off her feet for a big hug. She wasn't fixed up yet for the bar, but she still looked very hot and sexy. It turns out that this Sunday is the only Sunday when the girls can leave the property without a bar fine (is it the second Sunday of the month, I don't know). So she was very excited to go to the beach, as I had promised, since it would save me $107 in bar fine today. And she asked if her friend Diana could go also. I said sure - I wasn't that horny anyway and I wondered what a couple of hours at the beach with them would be like! I told her that I would not be able to go down on her at the beach, so just hold her urges.
When we got to Orient Bay, the two girls immediately headed for a small stand selling beach ware and picked out bikinis for me to buy for them (as they had none). I mentioned that it was a clothing optional beach and they could go nude, but these Colombian working girls are actually quite conservative!!
The girls didn't want to stop at La Salsa bar - said it was full of Dominicanas. Instead we walked down the beach until they selected the larger and higher-class Kon Tiki bar (a tourist trap-when i first visited it 5 years ago I remember that there was a completely nude hot girl at the bar and I just could not believe it!). We negotiated for 3 chairs and umbrellas, stretched out and ordered pina coladas. We were only at the beach for 2 hours, but we drank, ate some coconut shrimp and fries, swam, sunbathed, put oil on each other, and generally had a typical fun beach time. What struck me was how precise the girls were in what they wanted - these are 3rd world girls who don't know much about the beach and didn't even know the name of the beach we were on, but they knew exactly what they wanted to eat, drink and do. The tourist trap restaurant was not up to providing the food that these colombianas desired, so we compromised.
When it was time to go, we walked back to La Salsa where the car was parked, and Diana ran into a friend/client. Camila said he was Pinocchio and his nose would grow, since he said the day before that he had to work on sunday and couldn't take diana to the beach. But here he was, and her she was, looking very hot in her bikini, flushed and disheveled and sprinkled with beach sand from her toes to her large natural breasts. He couldn't resist her. So she stayed behind at the beach, and Camila and I went back to Defiance. In her room, I took a quick shower and then had only 5 minutes before I really had to leave. We embraced and kissed and made a tentative appointment to meet again in a few days.
I completely forgot to leave any money when I left. However, she was on her own time, we didn't have sex, and I did pay for everything at the beach and bring her some nice gifts. So I am hoping that a payment was not expected, or necessary to retain my client status and not slide into a Routard-style "grand amor" boyfriend. There is some risk, since I have been nicer to Camila than any guy in a long time.
-zing
Reading Zing23's last post made me think of something.
Is it availabe in St. Martin or should I bring my own stash?
Thanks for the help.
[QUOTE=Lookin4it]Reading Zing23's last post made me think of something.
Is it availabe in St. Martin or should I bring my own stash?
Thanks for the help.[/QUOTE]At most pharmacies (not all), you can just go in and ask for it. When they ask if you have a prescription, you just say "of course, but it is in Milwaukee." - or just bring your last box with the doctor name on the outside.
the pharmacist at the phillipsburg pharmacy (on the way to the cruise ships) also has generic V at much lower price. but he has to be in the store at the time and you have to pay cash - it doesn't go thru his regular records.
-zing
Hey Zing, I love your posts, always fun to read how these chicas act while outside of Colombia.
I probably have about 10 girlfriends throught Colombia, changes daily :)
I'm sure they cost much less than those 3 chicas of yours in SXM combined ... never a multa paid, and with the average wage in Colombia at a few hundred dollars a month ... a little money to them makes them happy.
Take care amigo
[QUOTE=Ricker]Hey Zing, I love your posts, always fun to read how these chicas act while outside of Colombia.
I probably have about 10 girlfriends throught Colombia, changes daily :)
I'm sure they cost much less than those 3 chicas of yours in SXM combined ... never a multa paid, and with the average wage in Colombia at a few hundred dollars a month ... a little money to them makes them happy.
Take care amigo[/QUOTE]
yes, 2 chicas to the beach in st maarten for a few hours, total cost for food, drinks, bikinis, beach chair, umbrella rental, etc. was $120, and that was without a multa. that would almost pay the monthly salary of many colombianas at home. if there had been time to parasail and jetski, add another $100 or so. they are like children at disneyland when they first hit the beach in st maarten.
-zing
[QUOTE=Zing23] So I am hoping that a payment was not expected, or necessary to retain my client status and not slide into a Routard-style "grand amor" boyfriend. There is some risk, since I have been nicer to Camila than any guy in a long time.
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We don't pay for sex, we pay them to leave after the sex ;)
[QUOTE=Zing23]At most pharmacies (not all), you can just go in and ask for it. When they ask if you have a prescription, you just say "of course, but it is in Milwaukee." - or just bring your last box with the doctor name on the outside.
the pharmacist at the phillipsburg pharmacy (on the way to the cruise ships) also has generic V at much lower price. but he has to be in the store at the time and you have to pay cash - it doesn't go thru his regular records.
-zing[/QUOTE]Thanks, zing. I appreciate the info.
Routard,
I think we pay them so we can leave the room.
I am currently using yahoo messenger with the free internet telephone to talk and write to mi novias in colombia. While she is writing me I am writing this isg note---what a pervert--- I am sorry that we will miss each other in Bogota.
I have planned 3 days for general mongering then 4 days with one novia then 4 days with another. In between some business. Does anyone know of a first class 4-5 star hotel in the better section of Bogota.
"I need your milk in my mouth likes too much my love when I shower I must use a special shower for my pussi and think gustaria that your you bathed to me with your hot and delisiosa milk"
[QUOTE=Zing23]At most pharmacies (not all), you can just go in and ask for it. When they ask if you have a prescription, you just say "of course, but it is in Milwaukee." - or just bring your last box with the doctor name on the outside.
the pharmacist at the phillipsburg pharmacy (on the way to the cruise ships) also has generic V at much lower price. but he has to be in the store at the time and you have to pay cash - it doesn't go thru his regular records.
-zing[/QUOTE]By the way, does the generic stuff work? I have never tried that.
Thanks Routard for your empathy tip! So any advice on which casas have the best talent/price/safety? I could really use your input on that question. I'm sure it'll be very helpful. I ended up finding the map that one of you posted a while back. I don't plan on taking a taxi anywhere. I always rent a car and it's probably safer to in case I gotta get outta there in a hurry. Anyway, looking forward to your help.
[QUOTE=Lookin4it]By the way, does the generic stuff work? I have never tried that.[/QUOTE]yes, it is exactly the same.
-zing
[QUOTE=BigDikNik]Thanks Routard for your empathy tip! So any advice on which casas have the best talent/price/safety? [/QUOTE]
All casas are on the same road, no entrance fee, so just visit them all and make up your own opinion. I have already my own opinion and keep it with Carolina and Seamens both having the greatest line-up, are safe places and have similar prices compared to the other casas.
Seamens and Carolina's have allways been safe,there are alot of big local guys that hang around outside but they are almost allways the taxi drivers and are very good guys and watch out for their regular fares so no need to worry about them.
[QUOTE=Mel365]Routard,
Does anyone know of a first class 4-5 star hotel in the better section of Bogota.[/QUOTE]
Mel I use the DANN CARLTON ,AVENIDO 15 NO 103 60, BOGOTA rates are great for Bogota and the bar & restaurant is good. Last month I paid about $125 US a night.
kk
[QUOTE=Zing23]yes, it is exactly the same.
Zing[/QUOTE]Fantastic. Half-priced hard-ons all day long!
Thanks again for the info. I promise a full and detailed report when I come back.
The Dann Carleton looks good. thanks.
Mel
I am new to this forum. I am freshly divorced within the last yr, and am enjoying my freedom. I want to do as much mongering possible, before I get tied down again! I thought Puerto Vallarta was the best, but now have been reading all your stories. It sounds like I need to go to the Caribbean! Only problem, I may never want to leave! I would like to go in Oct. But do not want to chance a hurricane. Can somebody compare St Martin to Aruba for me? If I am going in October, should I go to St Martin or Aruba? What are the best months to go to either? Any of your advise would be appreciated.
[QUOTE=Lovin Chicas]I am new to this forum. I am freshly divorced within the last yr, and am enjoying my freedom. I want to do as much mongering possible, before I get tied down again! I thought Puerto Vallarta was the best, but now have been reading all your stories. It sounds like I need to go to the Caribbean! Only problem, I may never want to leave! I would like to go in Oct. But do not want to chance a hurricane. Can somebody compare St Martin to Aruba for me? If I am going in October, should I go to St Martin or Aruba? What are the best months to go to either? Any of your advise would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]
Aruba pluses: no hurricanes, tourist season continues right thru august-sept-oct with europeans and latins, good tourist infrastructure. negatives: have not been to san nicholos myself, but i think that the clubs are far away from tourist area (45 minute drive) at the oil refinery, organized as many small bars with just a few chicas each. same type of girls go to aruba as st maarten.
st marteen pluses: 100+ chicas organized into just a few clubs, all near the center of the main town, good tourist infrastructure (almost equal to aruba). negatives: hurricanes likely august 15 to oct 1, tourist infrastructure mostly shut down during this time period and reactivates after oct 15 when cruise ships return and bulk of tourists return after nov 15.
for first trip, consider also curacao. no hurricanes. almost as good as aruba for tourism and campo allegre with 120+ chicas is right next to the airport.
enjoy your divorce. I have certainly considered it myself!
-zing
Zing is right on about the comparison. On Aruba, San Nicolaas is a little on the seedy side, but entirely safe. I like the "drive thru" aspect during the afternoons and early evening. It is about 30 min from the main tourist areas, but there are decent places to stay in SN as well as nearby Savaneta. The tourist scene is fantastic with world class casinos, lots to do, see and eat. Crime is virtually zero. Last hurricane was 135 years ago. See the Aruba forum for some good reports.
St Maarten has several good brothels, good food, great beaches, including Orient Beach (nude). Storms hit SXM on a regular basis. Crime is rising, but be aware and don't do anything stupid and you will be fine.
Curacao is heaven if you just want to walk into one place and have a huge choice of chicas. TLN in a chicas room is possible. Overall, the rooms are much better than the ones at the brothels in SXM or Aruba. They each have private bath, cold air and cable TV (spanish of course) You would have to do 4-5 chicas a day for about a month to be able to sample them all. Tourist stuff is pretty good and there is some of the best diving in the world. Also a good Curacao forum here to research.
You may also want to check out the Dominican Republic forum and search the Puerta Plata section for Blackbeards. You stay on property, room rates are about 1/2 the price of the other islands and you have 30 or so chicas to choose from. It is a total immersion experience. I haven't been there yet but a good friend of mine goes a few times a year and loves it. Hopefully I'll make it there soon.
Divorce....the last one cost me a fortune and so now I am calculating the potential cost of the next one. The temptation to move to one of the islands is strong, but only if I can still afford to play. Unfortunately, divorce would probably leave me too broke to play.
pogo
[QUOTE=Lovin Chicas]....I am freshly divorced . .....before I get tied down again! ....Any of your advise would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]
[b]Don't!![/b]
Leave getting "tied-down" to the BSDM crowd.
[i]"Freedom is what you do with what's been done to you." - Jean-Paul Sartre[/i]
Suerte!
Polvo
Is bringing a guest to your hotel or guest house an issue at most places in St Maarten?
Hello all, been lurking for a bit after booking a trip to StMaarten. Was there for a few months back in '99, and it sounds like things have changed a lot while also remaining the same. For one, there wasnt all this incredible intel available back then!
Quick questions:
1)How is the weather currently? In checking the forecasts, every single day is cloudy/thunderstorms. Has it been that bad? Or are you guys getting some sunshine? I would hate to miss all the lovely chicas half-naked at Orient because it was pouring rain!
2)This trip will have only very little time for mongering, one or two sessions at most- so I have to get right to the heart of it. Am going straight to Caroline's (only) and wonder if anybody has a specfic rec or two. Also, any girls there known to enjoy it the backdoor? My latina mongering experience is that a fair number like the anal action- butt not all of them, of course. Would love to find a hottie who spoke a bit of engrish and liked it from the backside.
Any and all responses are appreciated, and I will be sure to post reports after my trip.
Thanks!
I have stayed at 6 different resorts and hotels on the island.
Guests have never been questioned. No problems.
Mel