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Hey Jak,
You have every right to be here, in search of usable knowledge, but no one should ask Veg to morph from cultural philosopher-elitist into the people's monger. Remember, the devil's in the details! So be careful what you wish for :-)
For example, I so wanted to yell at 555 and call him worthless and weak, until I read Sour's wake-up call, which helped me to calm down after I stopped LOL.
555, in April, for all our sakes, un-plug your laptop and please get a flat and a Kiev Post. After your mind-numbing success, if you so choose to return and accept your mission, you are now officially required by the French Foreign Mongering Legion to sponsor, (fuck), a MINIMUM of 3 Natashas per day while in country. To be reasonable, you will be allowed an occasional rest, meaning 2 Nataly's per day, but only should you run out of cash or come, which ever comes first, of course. But you better have a good excuse for slacking, like falling asleep during your 6 hour wait for Odessa, (?).
Where did Vag get Odessa anyway?
Don't feel bad though, the very first girl was super, like you said ! Just don't let the philosophers fool you that it was the girl, it really wasn't her. It was you Frenchie! After all the eye-candy overdosing, the first pre-heated concubine-wench who grabs your wallet with one hand and your zipper with the other will make your head spin. Its really true, I'm sure many others can attest.
Once upon one of my arrivals, after barely 2 steps into the flat, a dyev had her tongue completely down my throat, and not even 30 seconds later, she had my johnson down her throat. That's just her being in-heat combined with your testosterone overload, where you slam-fuck her against the coat rack standing up in the vestibule with your shoes still on. Like I said, happens to us all, right mongers?
Actually, and as always, Veggie is correct. You should call an Uzbeki girl, its a direct flight from Tashkent, and they are so hot. My only one of those was a super horny slope eyed blond with very smooth dark skin. We took a long hot bath but somehow still got very dirty.
Bon Chance
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Her555
Originally posted by Vegamars:
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Don't forget the golden rule of Kiev-no matter how many girls you're entitled to meet, the first one you encounter takes precedence even though you might see her for the first time in your life.
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Nothing difficult to understand.
But also I sometimes failed in this rule... But this only confirmed me that's really a golden rule!
No matter if it seems a bit rough, but pick the first girl you grab, no matter if you are expecting a new and younger Cameron Diaz that want to have sex with you. No matter! pick the first and, if ...Cameron still want to stay with you... OK but at your time.
Otherwise you risk to lose a good chance for a girl that will never appear .......sad but real.
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Maybe the detail's in the devil itself??
The more I give details the less likely you'll grab any kind of success or joy.You'll just try to go exactly the same way and fail at the end.
What makes Kiev so special is there are enough unique ways for every adventurer,if you really wanna feel special.
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Wholeheartedly agree with Vegamars.
A month ago I had thought the Vega don't want to share the tips with us.
Now, after 18 days in UA, I understand completely his point of view.
A detailed tip makes two things:
1) is NOT applicable to you. You can go completely wrong with it. Or exceptionally good with the opposite...
2) steal the "flavour" of initiative that makes a normal night an exceptional night.
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Hello,
I visit Kiev oftenly for business, and allways rent an appartament near Maidan. I have many times contacted with GIA and the service has been allways perfect (Ksiushsa is wonderful, and before there was a other girl named Tanya but she left GIA).
This month I couldnt contect them and I phoned to an anopuncement that appeared in Kviv Post, it is like a pink heart (491-6220), they offeerd me girls from 17 to 25, I asked for the 25 one, and the one that arrived after one hour told me she is 19, 100$ for 2 hours, very bad service, blowjob with condom (she refused without), when I told her that she was not good at all in bed,, she told me that this was her 3rd service this day and was very tyred. So finally we ended with nice talking as I saw that would be impossible to enjoy sex. My advice is dont call to this service.
For my next trips I would like to meet a nice woman about 35-40, not just for sex (also for good sex of course), so, can anyone recomend me, how to find this kind of lady in kiev?
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Let's start all over from the beginning.
If you wanna be permanent in Ukraine first make a reason for it-business of course,but not in the ordinary sense and rather right through the end in every aspect.Ukrainians are just sick of working in the country and with Russia(they consider Russians as sluggish businesswise-not my opinion),so surprisingly enough you can find numerous ways of accomplishing transactions and deals.For instance I've already made my way on three different fields by using a little bit of creativity,of which two are completely new for me.
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VM,
Although that guy told me that ALL Ukraine women take money, I NEVER said I believed him, nor did I see proof of that in my 9 journeys there. On most of my trips, I've spent almost half my time pursuing normal girls with regualr jobs or university types, and though I didn't offer them money, I had many chances to. In some cases, now that I look back, I wish I had, but at the time, I wasn't comfortable because I didn't want to possibly offend them, and I didn't want to come off as being only interested in sex. In retrospect, its likely I missed an opportunity here and there, and I certainly would have been better able to prove or dis-prove this myth, so in that respect, I lost out on being able to add anything significant to this discussion. I'm sorry, I really should have done better.
But as for American women, I must disagree with you. Over the last 10 years, IMHO I see a drastic change here in the SoFla area. Local new amatuers (18-24 y.o.) here seem to have vanished. Since around 1995, the half dozen girlfriends I have who used to easliy be able to arrange introductions of new talent they'd met out and around on the party circuits are all telling me that no one here wants money anymore. Everyone they meet now has all the money they want from either their boyfriends or their family. That seems to be the biggest difference from the past.
It was fairly common in the past to meet women whose boyfriends and families wouldn't give them any support. Now its doesn't seem to matter what I offer, the standard response here now is, I don't do that or I don't need money. I'm sure other areas are different, and sure, there always are 30 year old crack monster SW's out there if that's your taste. Also strictly-business very cold $250+ per hour 25 to 40 year-old professional escorts are available, but they offer 0%GFE, so there's basically no pleasure in that. Their list of "Don't do that /Can't touch that" is 5 times longer than their list of what they will do. It was this major shift, plus discovering the WSG, that got me started travelling. DR, CR, Brazil, and Bali opened my eyes, but then Ukraine opened my heart. Its the best place in the world. Even if only half are willing, 5 million ladies is more than enough for me!
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So, just to clear up any confusion regarding Rest Town. We went there twice last weekend. The first time was Friday night after a few drinks at "Freedom" - great club by the way with a superb "strip zone" upstairs. You can sit and drink beer and watch the show. Don't bother with a private dance - no matter how hot she is $100 for 15 minutes with no touching is seriously overpriced! Anyway we rolled up to Rest Town at about 3am and all seemed the same as last year. A few of the girls I recognised were still there and the deal seems to be the same with only one difference. The have been making renovations downstairs and changing all the little bedrooms into fancy sauna complexes. The upshot is there are less rooms and, get this, I was told that I would have to wait 3 hours before I could take my chosen beauty downstairs. In the end I couldn't be bothered to wait so we left.
We went the next evening at 9pm in an attempt to beat the rush. No problems this time and me and my chum took a couple down to the sauna for $50 each. The place was huge with two bedrooms, sauna, pool, karaoke and stuffed antelope heads on the wall - the girls think it is supercool. Bit of a waste as we went straight to the bedrooms and then left after the hour was up. Both girls were trying to pressure us to take an extra hour. We had to pay an extra $40 between us on top of the $50 for the use of the room. The girls were fun and happy and we had no problems with the police.
Still a great place!
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Hi All,
Complete new in this forum, but living already long time in Ukraine, and since 1 year permanently in Kiev.
I agree all the good opinions about Resttown. Absolute one of my favourites. But there are still many other places with the same fun for less price, even some regular bars nowadays!
Anyone like to join partyevening once?
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After my trip to Moscow, I had very low expectation for Kiev.
I got in to Kiev around noon Tuesday. I did not speak Russian so, I decided to use the service of vipgateway.com to hook me up.
When I got to Kiev, I was glad that I had someone waiting to pick me up. The taxi scalpers where fierce here.
I had been in Kiev before but, I had only been to Rest Town and River Palace. I did not like either of those places. The waitresses looked better than the dancers in Rest Town. There were way too many pros in River Palace.
This time I wanted a personal guide to help me with finding the non-pro girls. When I got off the plane, I was greeted with a very nice looking girl. Her name was Natasha and she spoke excellent English. In my reservation, I had specified that I wanted a nice apartment near maidan and that the purpose of my trip was to find girls.
Since I state this ahead of time, I was not embarrassed to tell Natashia that I want to find a girl to come to my apartment. I was restless from the flight. She asked me if I wanted her to call her friends. I told her that I prefer to get one off the street on the way from the airport. She told me that most of the girls are still in school and I should wait until 3PM to find one. It was 2:10PM so, I told her that I can wait. A good place to wait is in the new Internet Cafee inside the airport. It cost around 20Hyg for an hour. At 3PM I went with Natasha in her taxi and we drove around a couple of areas. One looked like a truck stop/rest area and the other is around a bunch of residential high rise apartment. There were many girls standing by the side of the road with their school bag waiting to be picked up. Most were asking for $350 to $400Hyg which is around $70 to $80USD.
After 40min of looking, I found one that was very cute for $350Hyg. By the time we got to the apartment, it was 5PM. At the airport, I was given a cell phone with an English speaking concierge person phone program in. I was told by Natasha that someone else will be my guide the next time I call because she has something to do.
Normally I would have been disappointed because I paid $70USD for only 3 hours. But, when I saw the girl without her clothes on I forgot all about it. The girl name was Luda and speak very little English but, she was very willing. I had her every which way but, she would not do anal. An extra $20USD changed her mind. I went at it for the entire 3 hours.
When I ran out of steam, I would rest and had her blow me until I got my wind back. I had to let her go at 8PM. She gave me her cell phone number and I promised to call her again. I was exhaused from lack of sleep for the last couple of days and I crashed. I did not wake up until 1AM. I was hungry. I call the vip service and told the concierge that I want to get something to eat.
About 15min later a car arrived. I wanted a salad and a girl but, the driver did not speak English so I could not tell him anything. I called the concierge again and told him what I wanted. He recommended a place called modobar and he told the driver to take me there. Modobar was pretty nice. It is part of a chinese restaurant Mandarin inside of a boat. I heard that the restaurant is good but, it is closed.
The door price for modobar was 20Hyg. There were many empty tables on the second floor but, they were all reserved. I had to bribe the waiter $100Hyg for a table. The music was good, the fashion show was not. There were not as many girls at the bar as River Palace but, the girls were nicer looking. I had my salad while checking out the girls at the bars. One girl was really nice looking with her hair braided in strands. I ask the waiter to ask her to come up to sit with me. She speak decent English but, she wanted $150 for the night. I could not get her to go down to $100 so, I told her that I'll think about it. I keep looking but, did not see anyone else that I like and it was getting late. I decided to go home with her. I called my concierge to send me a taxi. We got back to my apartment and I found out that she was 20 years old and her name is Vika. She want me to take a shower when we got home.
I told her that I want her to scrub my back. After playing around a bit in the tub, she relaxed. She was fun in bed. I was pumping away at her at all possitions for 2 hours and still cannot release. So she went BBBJ for about 30min until I complete then she ran to the bathroom to spit. I wanted to sleep then and there but, she insisted on smoking. Why do all Russian girls smoke like a smokestack. I felt asleep with her wrapping herself around me like a python for heat.
I let her go at 7AM because she had to work early. I did not ask her for her phone number because she was a bit expensive and not really my type. I went for some breakfast at the Sport Bar and found a really cute waitress there. I wanted to ask her out but, she did not understand English. I had to call my concierge to translate over the phone. She gave me her number but, told me that it does not do much good because she cannot speak English.
Suspecting that this might be the case everywhere, I booked a translator for 4 hours to help me with the non-pros. My translator was Natasha again. She told me that we can walk around the shops under Maidan and on Kursatuk and if I see someone I like, she would approach the girl for me. This is the first time I have this kind of service so, I want to try for the girls off the street. The first three I wanted was all negative. Natasha told me that those three have boyfriends and they did not need the cash.
We walked some more but, it was getting cold. So, we decided to head under Maidan to the shops. We went to a cofee shop and I saw a very pretty girl sitting by herself. Natasha noticed this and walked me over there to sit. It turned out the girl name is Marina and that she speak great English. We talked for a while and Marina told me that she cannot see me that day but, she can the next day. I got her number and left. At this point, I am still without a date for the night. I was tired of the search so, I told Natasha to get me a girl.
She made some phone calls and told me that she will bring two girls around to my apartments at 10PM so I can pick. I told her that I wanted to visit some of the bazzaar until then. We took taxi to a bazaar selling tourist stuffs. I bought some of the stacking dolls and a russian cossack hat. It was nice that she did all the negotiation for me in Russian. She told me that I still got scalped because the bazzaar is a tourist trap but, it could have been worst.
I wanted some local food so, we went to a Ukrainian restaurant. After we fished, I noticed that I did not have much cash left. I was told that I can get cash on account from the concierge guy and that it would be charged to my credit card. This is even better for me since I get mileage on the card.
At 10PM I did not see any of the girls coming to my apartment so, I called Natasha. She told me that she is still looking and to wait. It was not until 1Am that the girls showed up. I went down to look and knew that I had to have both of the girls. I paid $300 for both and took them inside. The brunette is Erica and the blond is Natasha. Both were my type. We talked a little bit, and I had them stripped. They showered alone then came back to bed. I started to pushed them together but, they complained that they were not lesbians.
I told keep on insisting and eventually they gave in. The only problem was neither would do BBBJ. This frustrated me greatly. Later, I found out that the girls were sisters. I did not expect this since they have different hair colors and the do not resemble each other. This was a first for me. I think that if I had the younger brunett alone, I can get away with more but, with her older sister around, everything was nee hachu. We played until 5AM and they wanted me to get some food. I wanted pizza but, they wanted fish.
They told me that there is a grocery store nearby that open 24hr. So, I called for my taxi and we went shopping. I got them the fish but, they looked nasty so, I got myself some Ukrainian salad, meat and bread instead. After we finished the food, it was 7AM but, I could not sleep. So, we stayed up cuddling and watching TV then they left at 8AM. My guide came by later to see how I like the girls. We talked for a while and I found out that they have a VIP service in Kharkov. I read on wsg that kharkov is a nice place to go so, I told her that I want to spend the rest of my time there.
She took me to Ukrainian Air, AVIA AIR, for a ticket to Kharkov. It was around $100 round trip. I wanted to leave the next day so that I have some time to pack. At this point, for some reason, I wanted Natasha, my guide. Maybe because of her English or because I see her so often. So, I told her and she accept for $100/night. She was not great but, made up for it by being able to speak English. I forgot how fun it was to lay in bed and chat before and after sex. I felt asleep and almost did not wake up for the flight but, Natasha woke me and even packed for me.
She took me to the airport for Kharkov. She told me that my cell phone will still work in Kharkov since I am using the UMC network. My flight was at 7AM and as I board the plan, I noticed that it was a propella plane and that de-icing the plane is a major ordeal. Eventually the plane took off and I arrived in Kharkov. But, I will post the last leg of my travel to Kharkov in that section.
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Peter,
I am a big fan of Resttown but would certainly like to hear about any similar places. Can you share a few ?
Thanks
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All,
I was wondering if anyone can help me with websites or any other resources that would help me find a job in Kiev (I am from US). I know this is way off the topic, but I figured there are few expats here.
Thank you
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Zergut,
You got to do your guide too?
Talk about fantasy land. ARGH! I need to get here. Plenty of cash to burn.
I just have moral issues. Got a girlfriend recently.. feel bad if I actually pull all the way through with it. Someone convince me that international sex does not count! :)
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zergut:
Very nice report, thanks a lot! It is hilarious that you did your translator:) Kiev seems more expensive than Moscow based on your report. I'm especially curious about your Kharkov experiences...
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Photos as promised. This is my tour guide Natasha.