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The thing with places like 588 is that you kind of get a tired of the 15 minute wham thank you ma'am thing. That and I don't like the cramped little rooms. I'd much rather take the girl back to my hotel where there's at least some space and I know the sheets are clean. That and the girls at 588 are just a too hard core. I guess that's to be expected since they're screwing a dozen guys a day. I'm not saying I'm looking for the GFE thing, because I'm not, it's just that I'm not completely into the phuck 'em forget 'em thing either. Regardless, it is an experience and some of the girls, when you're drunk, do look HOT.
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seoulman,
Forgive the rudeness. I was drunk when I wrote that. We like to say that Italians stink because (well, so many of your countrymen truly are less enthusiastic than you about the bathing) the ones that don't stink are such incredible competition. Especially the Italians who work out and spend all their money on expensive clothing.
I notice you do not dispute the bigger penis, just the malodor. So you'll take your national steretypes a la carte, I see...
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Welcome back everyone...I see that it took longer than expected.
Well just to update everyone with the "Hill"...negotiations are
still going good...I have been able to get girls between 40,000
and 50,000 won on a busy night. I just hold tough with the
price...but some places the girls just laugh or get mad not that
I care because they will see me more often...I will always make
the offer but they don't have to accept it but repetition will
hopefully prevail. It will be hit and miss but you can always
walk around and find some more tang elsewhere...
Have to go now so welcome back...and happy hunting.
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SWINGING: What is the swing scene like? I mean, if I get a Korean girl, will she be opened minded to swing? I am going there to study in awhile, so I want to line my ducks up. I love to swing and would love to find a lovely Korean girl that would like to as well. Anyone have any answers? Thanks.
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I just got to Seoul. I am a gyoppo and was wondering what the scene is like for someone who's Korean is elementary. What is the scene like around Hongik University? I have scene a couple barbershop poles even right next to the basketball courts at Hongik University. Is this place just like all the other barbershop places described in this forum?
Thanks!
jiggaman
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I am disturbed by a trend I am seeing on this and other boards
I subscribe to. Guys are reading about specific girls on the internet and then going in and saying " Hey, I read about you on the internet". Then the girl gets upset and possibly decides to not do foreigners. I have seen this several times now and it keeps me from sharing specific details about girls that I find. If I find a great girl who gives great service why would I share the details on a board like this so someone can go in there and screw it up for me. This should not have to be the case. This sharing of information should be helpful to everyone and help us all find better sex at the best prices but it's not going to happen if we screw it up by telling the girl her name is all over the internet.
Let's use our heads!
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I think Slow n' Easy has the right idea about Itaewon. There is no reason to pay the rediculously high prices they ask for. Most will ask for 80,000 or more just for a blow job and up to 250,000 for FS. How can they ask these prices? Because some guys will pay them. I refuse to pay more for sex in Itaewon than I would in an RLD and I tell the girl that. I say " Why would I pay you 200,000 for sex when I can take a 5 dollar cab ride to Yongsan and pay 60,000W?" If we stop paying these prices they have to charge less. Negotiate! Don't worry if you get turned down. There are plenty more girls to choose from that will accept your terms.
Also. don't pay 20,000 W for drinks. If you are planning on having sex don't buy any just start negotiating for the sex. If you're just looking for a bit of fun buying drinks almost all will take 10,000 for a drink. If the girl tells me that I get a better time for twenty I tell her that if I don't have a great time for Ten it will be the last drink I buy her. I don't say it in a mean way I simply tell her that if I have a good time for 10,000 I'll buy more drinks. Locals don't pay these crazy prices so why should we foreigners let ourselves get "juiced" buy mediocre looking girls in Itaewon. Personally I prefer Miari where I can always get 45 minutes with a cute girl for 50-60,000W
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just wondering if anyone knows wherther there are any dominatrixes working in seoul or if any of the rld's cater for this??Is there a fetish scene at all over here??
thanks
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Does anyone have detailed information about the following types of places I see commonly around Seoul.
1. Karaoke bars with hostesses (imay be called "dallanjujeom"?
2.Coffee Shops (tearooms) called "Tabang"?
What is the routine when you enter these places, how are the girls and prices for sex? Karaoke places usually have a price of 20-30,000 W on the sign out front. Tabangs usually say coffee shop in english and have a phone number on the sign and are almost always downstairs.
I rarely see mention of these on any discussion boards but I'd like to try everythng while I'm here.
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Hi All!!
Need help. Does anyone know where I can go for good services near Ritz? Also, anyone know a number for good in-house service and overnighters? (must be reasonable rates W100-300 <-- Is that possible?)
Thanks!!
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Seoulmate:
I think the 20000-30000 won in front of karaoke bar refers to the price for an hourly rate of karaoke.
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hey everyone・
was on the hill the other day to walk around and see what i could get. i went into a place that i went less than a week earlier. same girl was working alone like previous・so i went in, she locked the door, and she gave me a hug, the usual buy me drink bit was offered. since i was not going to buy her a drink i figured that i would ask her for sex・ i was only in there a few days earlier and only paid 40,000 won i figured she would have remembered me and what deal she offered me. so when i heard 200,000 won i had to remind her that i was only in here a few days ago and you only charged me 40,000 won. i guess she had a brain lapse・because she would not bargain down to the price she gave me before. but here was the difference the first time that she accepted my offer was right after 3 guys came out of her club. maybe she had just made some money on that deal・i don¨t know.
here is another experience i had after the brain lapse lady・i walk down to the lower half of the hill across the street portion where there are a few clubs. on one side there are two places almost right next to one another. the one place is older looking place inside that is narrow and the other place actually looks respectable with a nice interior. across the way there are two more places right next to one another.
i have been invited into one but have always declined and went into the other for the first time ever that day. the girl in there at the time was younger, cute with a nice body, and speaks english well. so i go in and she takes me back behind the partitions, sits me down, goes and locks the door, comes back to sit down, and immediately after she sits she starts rubbing on my cock. well in my book that is good time to start negotiations on sex and by pass the entire buy a drink bs. so before i could get a word out she starts telling me a story about her life yada yada yada・after about 10 mins. of that noise she throws in a why don¨t you buy one drink for 20,000 won・while the whole time she was rubbing my cock. i never planned on staying in there that long if i had not negotiated anything by that time. so i declined on the drink and she started whining about this and that・so to defuse the situation i just told her that i had an appointment and i thought i had enough time to hang out but it was my mistake・she was still set on trying to convince me that i had enough time for ^just one drink ̄・yeah right・so i asked what do i get if i buy you a drink・her reply was ^a happy time ̄. so i asked her to tell me what a ^happy time? ̄ is・some bs came out but then she said if you buy me 5 drinks you get a real happy time・so i countered with ^at 10,000 won each drink ̄ she said yes and you can have anything you want・i said ^sex ̄ and she said yes. ok i tell you what since i don¨t have time today to play lets meet tomorrow at 4:30 pm. she agreed to meet.
the next day comes and i am ready to go. i get there and wait about 5 minutes before she shows up. i go into the back behind the partition and she locks the door while she changes into her clothes then she comes straight over・immediately rubbing my cock again・so she said ok buy me one drink・before i say yes i renegotiate the deal so there is now misunderstanding of the terms・so i tell her ok remember what you told me yesterday・she said yes・so i said when you said i can have anything i want, i want to be clear before we proceed with anything・she said don¨t worry i will take care of you・i replied so then it is clear that we are talking about having sex, right? she acted surprise and said i am not one of those *****s・yeah right・right then i knew it was time for me to leave because if i am not getting laid then no need to stay. so she starts whining again about that i misunderstood her, that i promised her to buy her drinks, i owed her just for coming early, that she never implied sex, and she is not one of those *****s. i told her straight・ look if you never implied sex then why did you say that i could have anything that i wanted and i added including sex and you said yes. so there is only one way you will get any of my money and that is by giving me sex・what other reason would i have even showed up?・ to drink over priced beer and to buy you an overpriced grapefruit juice?・ your out of your head・i can buy you a grapefruit juice down the street for 800 won and a beer for 1200 won why would i even consider to spend 20,000 or even 10,000 won for that when i can get it for 2000 won・basic economics can tell you that・not that she understood the economics of it.
she got all pissy about the whole thing so i just told her if you are not going to give sex than maybe you should consider another line of work because you just can¨t just rub on a guys cock and expect them to crumble in your hands and pay these stupid prices without implying sex・if they do fine・ but when some guy comes in and you imply sex and don¨t give it to him then that is a good way to lose business or get hurt・you [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] off the wrong guy who knows what will happen.
so here is the lesson- what ever deal you get now you may not get later, if you negotiate on the hill then negotiate for right now・not later because they will forget you the second you leave, make sure that sex and the blow job is included, and lastly don¨t pay over 50,000 won for sex ・ negotiate, negotiate, negotiate.
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Slow n Easy
I think the second girl, the one who rub your cock, is just practicing and refining her scam lines of being a real "*****" on you about all those posibilities that she will do with you until the moment of truth. I would have done the same thing by walking out instead of wasting my mental faculty on a ***** like that to explain to her what is proper and not proper in the art of expectation from a *****. The funny thing though, there are some stupid dickhead out there that would actually fall for such scam and ruined it for the next guy. Thanks for sharing your thoughts on the subject of dealing with *****s.
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Slow n Easy
I had two very similar experiences in the past couple weeks.
One was definately with the same girl. The first was a girl in Dallas
who the first time I met her was on the street where she approached tme and asked if I wanted to go to her club. I said sure and followed her up the hill. We did not have sex but I did get 40 minutes of first a striptease and then and alot of forplay
and alot of time spent between my legs. It was quite an enjoyable time and she finished me off by making me cum on her tits and thighs. I paid her 40,000 Won which for 40 minutes of non stop sucking stroking and rubbing was well worth it. The next time I saw her it was at a slow time but during the evening.
She did ofer me a blowjob for 40 but it was not going to be that long and no clothers were coming off and she wouldn't budge so I said some other time and left. I think with these girls there situation changes from day to day so you can only negotiate for that day and not expect the same the next time.
The second was definately the ame girl you talked to. The bar was the first of two side by side clubs on the left as you head down the hill on the lower block. The Kiss in the Dark bar.
She is a cute young girl with a great body and often wears these tiny jean shorts that look great on her. I went into the back with her and she took me to a booth blocked of by a partition and started stroking my cock. She wanted 20,000 for a drink which I quickly declined. I told her I was looking for sex that night and wasn't interested in buying her drinks. She became very ofended and said "i'm not a *****!". (she rubs mens cocks for money but she's not a *****! - sure.) Anyway she ofered me a hand job and said she'd make me come for just one 20,000 W drink. Not a bad deal fom cutie like that but I was looking for more. I said I'd come in another time for the 20,000W hand job. THere are times I go drinking on the hill and wouldn't mind a cheap HJ before heading home . So a week later I did drop in and she refused to admit she ever offered that and again I walked out. Again she insisted she was not a *****. So I guess I agree , take the deal when it is offered or be prepared to start over the next time.
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Seoulmate
[i]Does anyone have detailed information about the following types of places I see commonly around Seoul.
1. Karaoke bars with hostesses (imay be called "dallanjujeom"?
2.Coffee Shops (tearooms) called "Tabang"?
What is the routine when you enter these places, how are the girls and prices for sex? Karaoke places usually have a price of 20-30,000 W on the sign out front. Tabangs usually say coffee shop in english and have a phone number on the sign and are almost always downstairs.
I rarely see mention of these on any discussion boards but I'd like to try everythng while I'm here. [/i][/QUOTE]
Danlanjujeom is basically low end room salon. More or less the same quality as Min Club. Your mileage will vary at any of these places. It's best to go to these types of places with a native to remove the risk that you will get ripped off.
Dabang is basically take out service. You order coffee. The girl who delivers your coffee can be negotiated with. I know about Dabang, but I've never done it so I have no idea how much it would run. I would think it's pretty cheap though since it's considered low class.