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[QUOTE=CPExpat]Dan, I will be in town during that time, will hook-up with ya!
[/QUOTE]Sounds like a date. Looking forward to hitting the BBS with the pros again. We can skip the catacombs, kind of not brave enough to be called a senior member yet:). Hope LE goes on vacation by then.
Bill and I asked one of the gals why there's so much LE activity around the night market these days - and the reply is that recently, 2 gals Overdosed and died on the street. Thus it stands to reason that they're keeping a close tab on Drug activities and ID card checks etc - not a crackdown on the ho'ing activities. We drove down there last night - and whilst they're not surrounding the cars any more, the Mommies certainly still hurry the gals out of the closed doors to show to us. Not a big selection - but OK I guess, seeing as there's such a large contingent of Hong Kong and Taiwanese mongers in Cp these days.
SE Asia Joe
[QUOTE=Dan Hawaii]Sounds like a date. Looking forward to hitting the BBS with the pros again. We can skip the catacombs, kind of not brave enough to be called a senior member yet:). Hope LE goes on vacation by then.[/QUOTE]
DW,
It's kind of like being in a fraternity at college. The catacombs are an initiation thing. We will have to get you over there after one of your KTV drinking binges when you are braver. Will you bring a date with you for a threesome?
OAH
[quote=dan hawaii] there's something fishy when the condom cost more than the girl. .[/quote]
oah.
drag dan down a dark, narrow, dirty, rat infested alley and into a stinking, cockroach infested, filthy hut. don't let him out until he smells like old fish. he will have finally earned his wings.
these girls do dozens of guys a day, most without condoms. hey, condoms are too expensive! they change the cum stained sheets maybe once a month. there is no bathroom, they just shit and [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url] in a hole in the floor that washes out into a gutter, when they have running water that is. pimps guard the alleys.
if you want cheap sex try dongguan. :d
[quote=santa]oah.
drag dan down a dark, narrow, dirty, rat infested alley and into a stinking, cockroach infested, filthy hut. don't let him out until he smells like old fish. he will have finally earned his wings.
these girls do dozens of guys a day, most without condoms. hey, condoms are too expensive! they change the cum stained sheets maybe once a month. there is no bathroom, they just shit and [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url] in a hole in the floor that washes out into a gutter, when they have running water that is. pimps guard the alleys.
if you want cheap sex try dongguan. :d[/quote]santa,
oah already dragged me there. he seems to be well loved there. many of the girls jump him on site and all the pimps/bodyguards wink and smile at him. we went with 8 other guys and none of them were game. they actually couldn't get out of there fast enough. oah, a german man, and i was the last ones lurking around. the german was game, i forgot his name, but one of the girls did not want to do him. "things that make you go, hmmmm?" actually serveral of the girls there were scared of him. wierd... but they love oah, he's a stud muffin.
hey oah, you not spoiling the market over there, huh?
Just finished up my first trip to CP after having compiled all of the useful info you guys have been posting here for a while and put it to good use...
It was a blast! Got to experience a few of the KTV's, discos, saunas and even had a little taste of the BBS's. My next trip I hope to explore the BBS scene more thoroughly like some of you pros here. A bunch of the neighborhood people were laughing at me and my friends as we walked down dead end alleys in the catacombs and turned back around. It was an awkward, but fun learning experience!
Just wanted to say THANKS to all of you for all of your insight and help along the way.
Still spinning from the after effects.
Rontbo
Happy New year to every mongers !
Anyone has the latest info for low budget well situated (near BBS) hotel in Changping these days ? Around 150 Y, max 200 ?
Thanks
[QUOTE=Erik]Happy New year to every mongers !
Anyone has the latest info for low budget well situated (near BBS) hotel in Changping these days ? Around 150 Y, max 200 ?
Thanks[/QUOTE]
Yeah, stay at the Yalan Hotel, you can wave at the mommies from your window. Can't get any closer than that.
If you prefer in town, try the Hua Yu (sp?) Hotel, kind of behind the Lucky Hotel and just 2 mins walk to the shops there.
-CPE
[QUOTE=Dan Hawaii]Santa,
Wierd... But they love OAH, he's a stud muffin.
Hey OAH, you not spoiling the market over there, huh?[/QUOTE]
DW,
I have never paid more than 30 RMB which is the standard rate. Even I often get turned away at first, but I can usually sweet talk a girl into it if I really want to do her. Most times, I just have alot of fun roaming around chatting and joking with all the girls.
OAH
[QUOTE=OldAsiaHand]DW,
I have never paid more than 30 RMB which is the standard rate. Even I often get turned away at first, but I can usually sweet talk a girl into it if I really want to do her. Most times, I just have alot of fun roaming around chatting and joking with all the girls.
OAH[/QUOTE]
Hey OAH:
Indeed, when you took me around the catacombs, it was all fun and messing about - even though it was in the evening. The second time I was with a few of my ABC/Asian friends (no Laowais) and let me tell you, the atmosphere was totally different; The gals were not messing with us and were actually all business - i.e. coming on and then being quite "forceful" in offering/insisting we take their services. the pimps glaring at us and the gals, a couple times even refusing to let one of us free from her clutches. All quite intimidating - even though it was broad daylight - to the point that I felt we needed to get out of there quite rapidly.
Does the difference have anything to do with them being a bit bemused by Laowais - but not about to tolerate messing about by locals/Chinese? I wonder.
I also heard from one of the K-OK gals that the scheme in the catacombs is to get the client to drop trou and start at it, wait a few minutes (very few) and start banging on the doors to enquire if the client wants to extend time etc. According to my K-OK gal, you should expect to drop close to RMB 100 for a visit there - and that the RMB 30 price is just a come-on trick
SE Asia Joe
SE Asia Joe:
I think there are a couple of differences. First of all, our group were not that keen for action. It was obvious that we were mostly just lookee-loos. I often bring groups through there for a guided tour. Many of the girls are not keen to do laowais anyway. I also know the "head man on the ground" so to speak. He gave me a personal tour of the area one afternoon. I am not certain if this helps me to get away with my bullshit, but I have never had any trouble there since I met him. In any case, I hope it keeps me safe in there.
Your group on the other hand were all good candidates for business. All you have to do is show a little interest and they will jump at it. I've had similar experience when I am with a smaller group of 2-3 and I am the only laowai.
These girls do 10-12 customers on a good day. They know who is a possible customer and what they have to do to entice every type.
The price is 30 RMB for 20 minutes. They always give you that. If you go over, there will be a knock at the door. You have to be fast.
Just my POV.
OAH
[QUOTE=SE Asia Joe]Hey OAH:
Indeed, when you took me around the catacombs, it was all fun and messing about - even though it was in the evening. The second time I was with a few of my ABC/Asian friends (no Laowais) and let me tell you, the atmosphere was totally different; The gals were not messing with us and were actually all business - i.e. coming on and then being quite "forceful" in offering/insisting we take their services. the pimps glaring at us and the gals, a couple times even refusing to let one of us free from her clutches. All quite intimidating - even though it was broad daylight - to the point that I felt we needed to get out of there quite rapidly.
Does the difference have anything to do with them being a bit bemused by Laowais - but not about to tolerate messing about by locals/Chinese? I wonder.
I also heard from one of the K-OK gals that the scheme in the catacombs is to get the client to drop trou and start at it, wait a few minutes (very few) and start banging on the doors to enquire if the client wants to extend time etc. According to my K-OK gal, you should expect to drop close to RMB 100 for a visit there - and that the RMB 30 price is just a come-on trick
SE Asia Joe[/QUOTE]
At 8:15 p.m., Saw a mommy getting locked up by two young LE in the park square between Hui Mei and Virgin Hotel.
One had grabbed the mommy's jacket and the other started showing his ID to her. Then about ten minutes later, they put her into a patrol car.
The LE were fairly young guys. Skinny and tall, boyish looks. One wearing a Adidas windbreaker.
Then I heard that there was a raid down at the Hui Mei alley, just near the crossroad, around the corner from the Lucky. Ten girls were seen locked up and taken away in a van. There were also older guys and gals getting picked up. Perhaps it was a raid for people without IDs.
Anybody have more details?
Bill
Looks like a number of us will be converging on CP in two weeks:
Racetrack: Jan 13-17
Dan Hawaii: arrives late Jan 15
Loso: arrives Jan 15
Manfest: arrives Jan 14 ?
I hope to meet up with all of you, as well as regulars CPexpat, OAH, and any others. I am into BBS, sauna, and KTV (triple play).
Is anyone else going to be around?
Racetrack
Anyone who wants to share the cost of a private car from CP to Zhuhai on Monday morning before noon-ish (or perhaps late Sunday night), let me know.
The price will be 350 and it will depend on how many people will split the costs, so budget between 175 - 120RMB to hitch a ride. Will take a shade less than two hours to reach downtown Zhuhai compared to a shade over three hours if you go by bus.
J