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Pals,
I do not live in the Philippines but I am in the process of purchasing a second home here. I have so many close friends here now, Spamhogs, GoodEnough, Henny, Maurice O'Flanaganand very shortly, Coolerbrew. I think that buying home here (for a fraction of what the same house would sell for in my City) is a good idea.
One of the things I would try to do is live here during the US summer months of June, July and August. With cellphones and the Internet, plus DHL and LBC, I think I can conduct business for this period with out venturing back home. I once did seven weeks in Davao staying with GoodEnough. I was not prepared for the long duration away but have made many adjustments since then.
I will have a maid at the house but not sure about moving my Jen or someone else into it. I told GoodEnough a week ago that I would most likely stay for a night or two at either Casa Leticia or Marco Polo when I was entertaining non-Pro Davao Pussy, with the exception of my Jen or my Son or Daughter and their Mother's (only one at a time, naturally). They have occupations and both have homes on the respective islands where they live which I pay for (one is a house I had built).
I still have memories of early on in my travels to the Philippines when I had a woman pounding at my door demanding to be let in. Or the huge titted, 19 year old Marites in Cebu City, demanding, "Slayer, send the girl out now. I want to talk with you". I am uncertain that letting them know you have a permanent residence in the City, even on a Gated Compund with Security Guards (nothing will stop a determined woman), will make for much privacy.
Dragon Slayer
I could not resist posting here, since I also followed DS as (I think) the second poster on the original Davao thread. So this was a chance for history to repeat itself.
Slayer, the house you looked at the last time is still for sale and is almost sure to remain on the market until you arrive here again. The market here is small, in comparison to the US or Europe, and the universe of folks who can afford homes in gated communities is not expanding very rapidly. In fact, if you believe recent articles on the economy here, the rich are surely getting richer but the growth is not trickling down and the middle class/upper class is not expanding very much.
GE
Thanks GoodEnough. Soon you will have 1000 posts. Not bad! I will leave information here in my City for the wiring of necessary funds to put a down payment on the house, assuming I can reach favorable terms with the "pirate" who owns it. Having it vacant and never lived in for nearly a year now would make the owner a motivated seller back here in the USA. however, i have heard that these guys will "hang tough" for 2-3 years waiting for their cash price to "come home".
I will offer to make a rent/purchase on the house, giving a significant down payment, moving in and paying "rent" for 1-2 years. Then, the agreed balance will transfer. We need to get Rosanna to sell this to the owner. This way he has cash flow and up front capital, sufficient enough to assure a favorable outcome.
I just cannot see the point of payhing cash for an appreciating asset. Makes no sense at all. This is a house, not an automobile or boat that I am buying. I will arrange for my daughter to come down to sign the papers also as my co-owner and I will sign on behalf of my son (he was formally adopted by me, his real father, and has my Family Name).
My other option is to simply wait for the condos now under construction. I may even make an offer on one of them now to really mess up the head of the owner of the house.
Dragon Slayer
[QUOTE=Dragon Slayer]Thanks GoodEnough. Soon you will have 1000 posts. Not bad! I will leave information here in my City for the wiring of necessary funds to put a down payment on the house, assuming I can reach favorable terms with the "pirate" who owns it. Having it vacant and never lived in for nearly a year now would make the owner a motivated seller back here in the USA. however, i have heard that these guys will "hang tough" for 2-3 years waiting for their cash price to "come home".
I will offer to make a rent/purchase on the house, giving a significant down payment, moving in and paying "rent" for 1-2 years. Then, the agreed balance will transfer. We need to get Rosanna to sell this to the owner. This way he has cash flow and up front capital, sufficient enough to assure a favorable outcome.
I just cannot see the point of payhing cash for an appreciating asset. Makes no sense at all. This is a house, not an automobile or boat that I am buying. I will arrange for my daughter to come down to sign the papers also as my co-owner and I will sign on behalf of my son (he was formally adopted by me, his real father, and has my Family Name).
My other option is to simply wait for the condos now under construction. I may even make an offer on one of them now to really mess up the head of the owner of the house.
Dragon Slayer[/QUOTE]Be CAREFUL WITH REAL ESTATE! The Market here makes no sense, houses that would otherwise sell quickly stay on the market for years and years, while their owner tries to get the price HE thinks its worth and at the terms he wants IE cash, cash, cash or more cash, I have found FEW examples of owner financed or rent to own terms, these people cannot get it thru their skulls that they would make more money and sell their property faster if they came up with owner financing plans, but forget any kind of credit here unless you are a local VIP, flunking out on a loan is de riguer, so you can see their point. But they will let a property sit for years at an exhorbitant price before selling it for owner financed terms in which they could probably make more money with interest. Go figure.
Also get a lawyer to draw up a contract and research the title, make sure all Heirs or the rest of the family is contacted and in agreement with the sale.
A 'clean' title means nothing, someone in the family can and maybe will file a claim as an heir if you don't research it.
Spamhogs is correct But I have no intention of paying cash. I will check out the situation when I am here. I will also look at the plans for Davao's first Condos, supposedly under construction now. I have a Law Firm in Cebu City which has done legal work for me. I will seek advice from them. I will also see if the owner of the one house is now becoming flexible. I offered back in November to give a 40% DP and Balance is a couple years. He was not contacted but the Agent with the listing said he wanted to sell outright. Been six months since that time.
I just think it would be nice to have my own Place where I can leave my clothes and personal effects and not have to be concerned about Hotels during Sinulog or the Convention period. Be adding another Asset to my portfolio.
In any event I want to see the lovely Real Estate Agent again. I have to time everything as I will be meeting the Davao Stalker Lady this trip (we need some material for "exciting posts").
Dragon Slayer
Guys,
I mentioned before about my home on Leyte. I stayed here for several days this past Trip. During March, April, May & June the philippines is a combination of very hot and humid. Where my home is on Leyte is accessible via a 2 1/2 hour boat ride. Then a tricycle ride for 15 minutes to the Village. Located directly on the beach it has beautiful views of the ocean.
I have not yet installed air conditioning in the house, so while I stayed there it was absolutely miserable. At other times of the year it is better. But the main thing to contend wit is its remoteness and the abscence of many amenities. Fishing boating, sun bathing and swimming are the primary activities. For a single guy there are man available women here. You have to like them in the 18-23 year range. If single after this, most will leave to sek employment in the ajor cities or overseas. There are a few available women age 25-40 but you have mostly young, olive skinned girls here. But plenty of them.
For me with my daughter and her mother here there is no oportunity for seeking other women. I did bring the Kid here twice, but each time he could stay only one day as he had to move on. This was unfortunate because on this last Trip a coupe young girls approached my daughter's mother about getting set up with him.
I spent much of my time here sitting under a coconut tree on the beach or watching dvds with a couple of fans going. It was much too hot to be out in the water on a boat. The food is fresh fish, including squid and octopus. Also, chicken, pork, lamb and meat from the market on Saturday mornings. While staying here I always dine magnificently.
The nightlife is nonexistent. There are a couple Bars in the town where the boat docks that have girls to be fucked for less than P700. I keep trying to organize a mongering night here with a couple of the brothers of my woman, all of whom are married. There are two of these Bars that i am aware of and plenty of karaoke Clubs and many filipino restaurants. You need to arrange transportation there at night as there are no taxis r jeepneys running.
Living on these remote Islands is not for me and I soon departed for Ormoc, one of my favorite cities in the Philippines.
Dragon Slayer
Hey Guys.
Even though I am ATTEMPTING, (not too successfully! ), not to monger much anymore, I still like posting on this forum because there is much less be. S. Here than other places.
So. If you don't mind, which city in Mindanao do you think is best for a somewhat naive American to live in? Davao? CDO? My sweetie is from the Zamboanga peninsula, but I am afraid to live there!
And just what is the typical filipina's attitude towards extra-marital sex? When the inevitable occurs, and I get caught with my pants down, will I be subject to the same shrieking male-bashing that happens here in the USA?
Thanks!
Guys,
I would go for Davao. Zamboanga is NOT a place for a westerner to live. CDO is still too primitive, I think. Some guys live there but it would get boring. Davao has the Clubs, restaurants, an excellent int'l Airport and many great communities in which to live.
As to getting caught. I have gotten caught more times than i care to relate. is it like in the USA? No, fortunately. No one goes crazy, beats you or swears at you. She will cry for hours and seek solace with relatives. Not a good scen but I remember in my early 20's getting caught by the fucking "demon from hell" white girlfriend I had back then. All 5 ft, 95# (flat chested to boot) of her began to beat the fucking shit out of me infront of oh about 100 people. Using the worst language imaginable to describe me while doing this
I ended up with a bloody eye and a torn shirt from this C___. Got rid of her eventually and never loked back. Asian women will get upset but most likely you will survive intact and she will eventually forgive you. I cannot say the same for Chinese women however. My Shanghai Baby (see photos in old Davao) left me and that was it. I did apologize but she would have none of it.
Dragon Slayer
Probably Davao, though I would seriously consider CDO as well. It's booming now and has an international airport, enough expats so you will not lose your English, lots of nice housing, lots of restaurants and enough clubs so you will never be bored. I agree with DS about Zamboanga, from where I returned this Wednesday. It's perfectly safe, but it's too small and too third world.
The thing about Filipinas is that deep down, they know and accept the fact that all men are assholes and are going to play. The best policy is strictly "don't ask, don't tell." If she does catch you, DS hit is exactly right. You'll get 304 days of "tempo" with lots of crying, pouting and zero verbal communication, but that's about it.
Meanwhile, there are some things you can do to cut down on the odds of being caught. First and foremost, don't play in your own zip code. If you live in Davao, go to CDO, Zamboanga, Manila, to play. Second, do not give out your primary cell number. Buy another sim card and/or another phone and remember to change the card/phone back to the original before you get home. If you ignore these rules, sooner or latter your plaything(s) are gonna text you and your wife/girlfriend will see the phone that you forgot to put in your pocket and left lying on the table. At that point, you're screwed and the dreaded tempo will begin. The third bit of advice, if you're going to enter into some sort of committed relationship here, is to have only one such relationship. Do not establish any sort of expectations on the part of your playthings.
If you stick to some basic rules of prudence, you can cut way down on the odds of being caught.
Just my opinion of course.
GE
this should more appropriately be on a manila thread, but seeing as we do not yet have one in this forum i will post it here.
i was in manila on thursday night, and decided, after work and dinner to head down to ermita to see what i could see. of course, i first ending up at la cafe, but it was early and the pickings were sparse, so i decided to come back later and headed up the street to amazonia. i keep going back there in the futile hope that one day i'll find someone, but tonight, as with every other time i've ever been there, the choices were very limited and very few. i know that other guys have gotten lucky there. i never came even close.
by now, it's about 9:30 and i headed up to padre faura to the gpoint. the gpoint has always been one of my favorite bars there since (1) it's clean and reasonably attractive and (2) there's always room to sit down. it's somehow more relaxed than la and it's surely much cleaner, though only 20% the size. there were several couples rep001tered around and probably 10-15 unattached women, most of whom (but not all) did not appeal to me. i started chatting to a cutie at the bar and all of a sudden my conversation was interrupted when another cute young thing pulled out a bar stool and wedged herself in next to me. i would have considered taking her, but she immediately starting talking about money, and how much she needed for short time, and how much for long, and i told her i wasn't interested. she couldn't take a hint so i just left the place and strolled back to la.
la by now was, as usual at that time, packed, with the usual ratio of 5-6 women for every guy and 1 good looking woman to every 15 not-so-good looking woman. there were a couple that were really cute, and i immediately tried to get something going but got shot down each time. now i'm getting older, have started to get more than a few wrinkles and physically, i'm less than a dream date for a 22 year old, so i didn't take offense. it occurred to me later that they may have been waiting for their mamasans or get jumped by one of the korean guys but i didn't obsess on it very much.
having been shot down by two downstairs, i decided to head upstairs and didn't see much to my liking there either; except as i was about to leave. i happened to glance over at one of the tables and saw one of the two or three prettiest women i've ever seen. i sat down. we had drinks and then left to get something to eat at the shwarma restaurant up the street. she had never had middle eastern food, and i've only rarely had a woman that stunning on my arm, so i guess we were even. anyway, after thirty minutes or so she was all over me and it was time to leave and head back to the hotel before the mood left her.
as it has so many times in the past, la came through for me. in my view, it's still the best deal in town if you have the patience to wait.
Guys,
Another excellent Post here by GoodEnough. I spent a lot of time in Manila in the early 90's and Makati in the late 90's. Since then my time is taken mainly between Cebu and Davao (HOME). However, this Trip I spent 3 nights with my Jen (my Lady NOT my slave; refers to me as her "slayer"). We went over to Burgos Street so I could stop at a wine store on Makati Avenue and pick up "provisions". We then hit two of the clubs on Burgos St. Being the afternoon we were the only customers in each Club. There were 10-20 girls dancing and hanging out in each place, mostly 18-22.
The afternoon is a good time to hangout in these Clubs, get cheaper drinks during Happy Hour and relax. Plenty of places to grab a decent/inexpensive meal also. However, the women tend to want P3000/nt. However, last year I did get a lady to stay with me for P1000. She was off work and I did not have to deal with the barfine. She was willing to stay the night but I had a cute, young co-ed dropping by later that night. She droped by the next day to see me but I had another lady with huge tits there.
Even with the young, regular girls I am not certain how much looks has to do with it. In my young days as a ballplayer I was 50 ponunds lighter, worked our daily and looked good. I did not even come close to scoring the quality of pussy I am getting today. yes, i did have my share (and then some) of beautiful 18-23 y/o's back then but nothing Like I had this last Trip to Davao. no fucking way!
What is the difference? Money? Perhaps. When talking to a couple of professional ballplayer clients of mine, they stated emphatically that even for them in their 20's (good looking guys also), money was the primary motivator for a woman to get interested in them. Not their looks or the fact that they are in the NBA or MLB.
But face it, in the Philippines the women, especially the young ones, cannot differentiate froma guy making $25,000/Yr to one earning $ 250,000/Yr. This is a fact. I saw guys getting by on "allowances" from Mom and Dad (in one case a rich, older auntie in the Netherlands) who managed to land hot looking, young filipinas.
I firmly believe that the key factor in meeting and fucking regular, young filipinas (and not so young) is your outward appearance and your attitude. Dress nicely, leave the shorts and white t shirts and sandals for around your apartment. Lose the white sweat socks also. Ladies are not impressed by the "farmer look". Be clean, neat and look and smell good ( I met two women who sais they had met previously foreign men with bad breath and body odor). Smile a lot, be friendly and be polite. You will do great no matter what your income is or your age.
Dragon Slayer
I am in Manila today, and had a bunch of appointments scheduled throughout the day. This morning however, it started to pour and within an hour, the entire street in front of my hotel was flooded. It looked like Lake Michigan and even had waves that started to lap at the front steps of the hotel. This made traffic in much of Makati impassable and I am literally a prisoner in the hotel for the entire day and have been forced to reschedule everything for tomorrow. Now the lack of adequate drainage has plagued this city (and this country) for more than 20 years and for more than 20 years nothing has been done.
The total indifference to public safety, public convenience, public health or much of anything else on the part of the government is symptomatic of the entire country in which nothing works as it's supposed to (except the women), and inefficiency and incompetence are synonyms for life as usual. After five years, innumerable frustrations and amazement at the total incompetence of the place, it's all starting to get to me and the obvious attractions of young women, easy sex and cheap prices may not longer be sufficient compensation. To add insult to injury, my wife called me this afternoon to tell me that the cable company had just disconnected our house. Of course, we never received a bill, never received any notice of intent to disconnect, never a phone call or any communications, and this form a company with which I've been doing business for five years and whose bills I have always paid in full and on time.
This place is the Africa of SE Asia and it ain't ever gonna get better.
GE
[QUOTE=GoodEnough]Probably Davao, though I would seriously consider CDO as well. It's booming now and has an international airport, enough expats so you will not lose your English, lots of nice housing, lots of restaurants and enough clubs so you will never be bored. I agree with DS about Zamboanga, from where I returned this Wednesday. It's perfectly safe, but it's too small and too third world.
The thing about Filipinas is that deep down, they know and accept the fact that all men are assholes and are going to play. The best policy is strictly "don't ask, don't tell." If she does catch you, DS hit is exactly right. You'll get 304 days of "tempo" with lots of crying, pouting and zero verbal communication, but that's about it.
Meanwhile, there are some things you can do to cut down on the odds of being caught. First and foremost, don't play in your own zip code. If you live in Davao, go to CDO, Zamboanga, Manila, to play. Second, do not give out your primary cell number. Buy another sim card and/or another phone and remember to change the card/phone back to the original before you get home. If you ignore these rules, sooner or latter your plaything(s) are gonna text you and your wife/girlfriend will see the phone that you forgot to put in your pocket and left lying on the table. At that point, you're screwed and the dreaded tempo will begin. The third bit of advice, if you're going to enter into some sort of committed relationship here, is to have only one such relationship. Do not establish any sort of expectations on the part of your playthings.
If you stick to some basic rules of prudence, you can cut way down on the odds of being caught.
Just my opinion of course.
GE[/QUOTE]I now live in PI also, and really love your name. Everything is "good enough", which in this country is another phrase for "below acceptable standards".
I have lived in Asia for years and am very good at "don't ask, don't tell" and covering my tracks. Yesterday, I got busted good. As I sat in the bar playing with a really sexy girl friend, I forgot to buy peanuts from the blasted peanut vendor. So the prick ran the block and a half to my wife's boutique and squealed on me.
The moral of this story is: Don't [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] off the peanut vendor.
Ah Tom, you played in your own zip code area and got nailed but good. I won't even ask what you had to cope with once the wife found out. And to play around in your immediate neighborhood is truly playing with fire I guess. When it gets to the point that the peanut vendor knows your personal details it may be time to change neighborhoods!
As to your comments on the country, I agree, but it's never going to change. Either we, as foreigners learn to adapt to it and in a sense to accept it, or we're doomed to lives of perpetual frustration here. I know lots of guys who fall into the latter category and are forever angry at something. I try as hard as I can never to go there, though I'm not always successful. The whole place is sort of a soap opera written by an amateur.
GE