Sybarite2006 and West to East logistics
[QUOTE=Sybarite2006; 1131206]Hi,
I am an old time poster on here and am hoping to return to FKK Palace for a visit in April. I am hoping to combine it though with a visit to other FKK clubs too including Ying Yang on the Dutch side of the German Holland border. I hope to end it in Artemis. Which other FKKs would you recommend given I will be travelling by public transport and would need to stay in nearby hotels overnight? Would it be feasible to do YY-X-Palace-the new one FFM-Oase-X2-Artemis? What are the best ones to fit in where my X and X2 are? World perhaps? And one other? How about Living Room? Or Bernds? Or Golden Time!
Someone like HB or Basketcase or Angus should be able to help I hope! [/QUOTE]Hi Sybarite2006,
You pose an interesting proposition of doing a FKK and sauna club tour from Ying Yang in Roermond (Melick) to Artemis via Frankfurt by public transport and staying in nearby hotels.
Your program takes in:
1. Yin Yang in Roermond.
2. X (TBA)
3. Palace (Frankfurt am Main)
4. The new one FFM (Presume Mainhattan, Frankfurt Am Main)
5. Oase in BHH.
6. X2 (TBA)
7. Artemis (Westkreuz, Berlin)
I am not sure if this is over a 7 day period or if you have more time in between locations.
*1. Yin Yang*
I am not sure how you will be kicking off your travel. Will you be flying into Maastricht, Einhoven or Amsterdam in The Netherlands or coming from Leige, Belgium or someplace else? All of these have different possibilities. I am assuming that you can make your own way to Roermond. So we start there at Roermond train station. You will find that the buses can be found just outside the Roermond train station. Bus 79 to MLK School takes you within a few minutes walk of the Yin Yang club. Look for the canvas sign hung in the trees to locate Yin Yang behind the trees.
You can check the bus schedule on [url]http://journeyplanner.9292.nl/[/url] This website provides information about public transportation schedule in all Netherlands. Just note that last train from Roermond goes at 00:36 if you need to be elsewhere than the Roermond area.
As for a cheap Bed & Breakfast there is recommended a place in Swalmen, a city nearby Roermond. 27. 50€ per night:
B&B Ramakers
Grindbank 42
6071 SE Swalmen (Limburg)
+31 (0) 475-53 22 25
[url]http://www.bb-ramakers.tk[/url]
You have to book online or you can make the reservation by telephone, but be prepared to speak some Dutch. The B&B is located exactly 11 Km (7 miles) away from Yin Yang. So a taxi can do it. Just call one from the B&B and ask for one to take you back. Another option is Pension Groenewoud in Swalmen at 30€ per night which is 5 Km in the north of Roermond.
* 2. X (TBA) *
My suggestion and recommendation is to get to Golden Time as my favourite club in Nord Rhein Westfalen but that is going to be a bit tough coming from Roermond. The public transport to Bruggen is not good. Once again look for the bus schedules to see what changes you need to make. On the bus map look for the bus stop Tierpark just 1-2 Km north of the village of Bruggen near the Dutch border on the B221 road.
Failing a bus, get from Roermond to Venlo in NL and then take a taxi from Venlo to Golden Time. The taxi should be a bit over 20-30€ one way depending. Alternatively take the train from Venlo in NL to Kaldenkirchen in DE and take a taxi from Kaldenkirchen which will be a whole lot cheaper than coming from Venlo. The distance is much much shorter and the German taxis are cheaper than the Dutch taxis in terms of tariff. The Ride from Kaldenkirchen I understand is around 10€, maybe a bit more than with oil prices the way they are. There are usually 1-2 taxis outside the station but once these go you may need to wait for a cab to rturn or call a cab. Look for the taxi number.
I suggest staying in Bruggen village to the south or in Kaldenkirchen to the north. There are good pension options in both. Although you do have to have some German as I found that English is not widely spoken by pension keepers in these two villages when I have stayed. Staying in Bruggen you can literally walk to 2 Km or so to the village from Golden Time. If you stay at Camp Heide Gastro which is 1 Km from Golden Time you are best placed and the room should be around 36€ a night.
Another option is take the train from Venlo after coming from Roermond to Dusseldorf and then take train to Ikea Kaarst train stop to visit Living Room. You can walk the 10 minutes or so from Ikea Kaarst train stop to Living Room. Search the Living Room thread for details. There is the ISA hotel up and across the road from Living Room that you can book and stay after you roll out of Living Room at 04:00. You can book that online or call them.
From Bruggen where you have been to Golden Time or the ISA in Kaarst where you went to Living Room you make your way via taxi, bus and local train to Dusseldorf Hbf to pick up your ICE train to Frankfurt am Main.
* 3. Palace (Frankfurt am Main) *
From Dusseldorf Hbf you can take the ICE train to Frankfurt am Main via Cologne to the FFM Hbf.
For Palace the details of getting to the Industriehof U Bahn stop on the U6 and U7 U Bahns from the FFM Hbf are many in the Palace thread. The Palace club is just 300 metres through the copper coloured brick wall on the other side of the tracks as you come from the Hbf.
There are multiple accomodation options in FFM. Try these websites to book online:
[url]www.otel.com[/url]
[url]www.booking.com[/url]
[url]www.accorhotels.com[/url]
Closests hotels to The Palace is the Ibis (down the road from the Industriehof U bahn stop) or the Flemings (directly adjacent to The Palace). There are lots of other places too.
Staying close to the Hbf is a good recommendation if you are intent on FKK hopping in FFM since you can start your travels from the Hbf to Palace, Mainhattan and Oase. Taxi from Palace to Hbf will be over 10€, maybe 15€ depending on when you leave and where you are so budget for that.
* 4. The new one FFM (Presume Mainhattan, Frankfurt Am Main) *
Read the Mainhattan thread for public transport details but, briefly, you can take a tram from the Hbf to Daimlerstrasse and then walk following the FKK signs to Mainhattan. If not, take a taxi from the FFM Hbf. The ride should be over the 10€ mark.
There are plenty of hotel options in FFM.
* 5. Oase in BHH *
From the Hbf take the S Bahn to Friedrichsdorf stop (closest to the Oase so cheaper on the taxi) or Bad Homburg (a bit more further away from Oase so more taxi fare) and take a taxi for the rest of the way to Oase.
Stay in Friedrichsdorf or stay back in FFM for accomodation. Factor in the return trip. If staying in Friedrichsdorf there are plenty of places like The Acardia or Mercure or Jaipur. You can take a taxi back to these places from Oase. Should be just over 10€ for the taxi ride. Or closest B&B is Pension Wall which is around 1 Km from Oase in the outskirts of BHH village.
The last train back to FFM from Friedrichsdorf us 00:08 so be sure to get your taxi back to Friedrichsdorf from Oase reception with time factored in to get there for the last S bahn.
* 6. X2 (TBA, suggest Das 5 Element) *
Next up is that you are on your way to Berlin from Frankfurt Hbf via public transport. My suggestion without needing to backtrack on yourself is to take the intercity or ICE train to Fulda which is on the main train line to Berlin. From Fulda you can make an attempt on Das 5 Element via taxi. Details on this club in the industrial area of Eichenzell to the south of Fulda are in the Das 5 Element thread.
I suggest Das 5 Element mainly for it being different, a pleasant stay and it is on the way to Berlin which is a big plus when on public transport. Do not expect the line up of Oase or Palace but there are gems in Das 5 Element. Treat it as a recovery day after all that fucking and enjoy the freshly prepared food selected by you from an a la carte menu that is cooked before your eyes by a dedicated chef.
I am not too up on hotels in the Fulda area but do a search using the websites:
[url]www.otel.com[/url]
[url]www.booking.com[/url]
[url]www.accorhotels.com[/url]
You will have to take a taxi from Das 5 Element to your hotel as there is no close public transport to the club. Maybe best to stay close to Fulda train station so you can move easily the next day to the last leg of your journey to Berlin.
* 7. Artemis (Westkreuz, Berlin) *
From Fulda Bahnof you continue your intercity or ICE train journey to Berlin taking you to the Hbf or even the Ost bf. Public transport in Berlin is extensive with trams, U bahn and S Bahn plus taxis.
Taking the U Bahn to Artemis near the Westkreuz station is very easy. Even our hero Norjan can do it navigating the perils of the area. Read the Artemis thread for transport details and suggestions on where to stay. I know that the Kronzprinz hotel to the south is in walking distance of Artemis but it is not the most budget of hotel options. Berlin has other many hotel options which I am sure that you can explore extensively yourself.
So Sybarite2006 I hope that this is a skeleton of what you can do to get your program of Yin Yang to Artemis via the Frankfurt FKKs.
Frankfurt Airport Stopover
I've mainly worked around Spain and been to the clubs there for the last 5 years but always been interested in the FKK's since trying Paradise in Stuttgart a couple of years ago and enjoying the experience.
I had to transfer through Frankfurt while travelling home so chose flights that let me have a 9hr stopover in Frankfurt so I could try Palace without any time pressures.
First off using the train and underground to get to Palace from the airport was incredibly easy. It took about 30 minutes as a train arrived at every platform when I did but even if they didn't I reckon it would only take 45 minutes to get there at the most. I went from the airport to Frankfurt Hbf then took the U4 to Bockenheimer and changed to the U6/7 to Industriehof and walked the last 300m having used Google street view to check the area out so I was familiar with everything. I think I had the right ticket and it only cost 9. 50E to get to and from Palace.
I arrived at about 13:30 and was greeted in English after making it clear I knew no German and told about how the place worked and was then shown the changing rooms. The lockers are quite small but I could fit a laptop bag in and then crumple clothes into the locker, as I didn't need to look freshly iron afterwards so this didn't bother me but it could be a problem if you had plans for after a visit. Once I changed I had a little wander around so I could see what facilities Palace had. At about this time there were 15 girls sitting around.
In the Spanish clubs I frequent I know a number of the girls and have good sessions as I've learnt who is good and who is bad. This is always a problem with going somewhere new as you have no experience. First up was Gina from Prague a curvy blonde and to me a 9. She started out with some speal about have a good first session and how the Romanian girls are awful and I should take her. I know from the Spanish clubs never to go with the first girl as they are usually sharks. Anyway I asked what was on offer and was told that a normal service is 50E and included BBBJ and sex but no DFK. The session was ok and she was engaged and we finished after 20 minutes and she was straight out of the room.
After this I went for a steam in the sauna and then back to the main area. Being a little tired I started to nod off and was then woken by Kimmi from Germany as I was a little tired I declined her offer and she recommend I go couch area near the steam room as it would be quieter and I wouldn't be disturbed as I rested.
After a rest I went back to the main room and was approached by Kimmi and Kiara and they offered a threesome. I tend to find threesomes in clubs are not as good as one on one session as you can't focus as much and it can get be a little start / stop due to hygiene issues. I would have happily gone with either one but didn't want to pick in front of them as it's a bit harsh to the other girl. A couple of minutes later Kiara returns alone and we went to the room. In the room she was more distant than Gina and while in missionary was keeping her legs slightly closed to limit my thrusting. Again she was very hot but not engaged so I wouldn't repeat.
I went back to resting and was approached by quite a few other girls and must admit that they were all 8-9's and I wasn't approached at all by any of the 5-7's and if I wasn't recovering I'the of gone with any of them.
During this time I got to thinking about the difference between Palace and the Spanish clubs I've been to. In Palace the girls were very business orientated and didn't really make any small talk. Now this could very well be because I was new to the club or could be the normal situation. Most of the conversation opened with 'let me kidnap you to the room baby'. In the Spanish clubs it's more of a pickup bar situation and you have a little chat for 10-15 minutes before deciding to go to the room and as you're fully clothed it's not as obvious if you have a hard-on which puts you in a little more control as the girl can't clearly see what you are thinking.
I was getting to the point where I was thinking about whether or not to have another session before going to the airport or just heading off. I was approached by an Egyptian girl I can't remember her name and not really sure if we even exchanged names. She was so brash just grabbing my cock and saying you're hard so you must fuck me. I found this non bullshitting behaviour a turn on and knew it was going to be a wham bam thank you mam session but as she was so brash I couldn't say no. It was more intense than the other sessions as she kept eye contact with a lusty look so I was made to feel like I had her full attention.
After that I washed up and headed out and was back at the airport 40 minutes later to fly out. All in all I had a good time and would recommend if you have a 7hr stopover in Frankfurt to head to palace. Compared to the Spanish scene I would say the girls are hotter as I expect in Spanish clubs to have 3-4 knock out girls whereas Palace by 19:00 had 15+ girls that I would rate as stunning. I think I suffered a little from being a newbie in the club but I had been expecting that and was a little disappointed that I didn't seem to be able to get a conversation from any of the girls as they were constantly on the prowl.
From my experience I preferred Paradise Stuttgart.