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Frankfurt vs berlin?
Assuming members had the opportunity to spend one week in Berlin or one week in Frankfurt and also assuming that transport / hotel and living expenses were more or less equal in both cities. I would like to know where members would choose to spend their time and hard earnt money considering; Frankfurt; lower session costs than Artemis, lovely friendly nature of girls at Oase not found as much in Berlin and opportunity to visit more than one club. Berlin; Artemis in my opinion has the greatest hardware of any club immensely relaxing. Berlin is a far more interesting city than Frankfurt hence making it easier to display some degree of illusion of being in Germany for more than grade A ass. A little less expensive day to day than Frankfurt and more blonde haired Germanic / Polish types at Artemis than in Frankfurt. However if my budget stretched to 4 four full days in clubs over one week allowing me to do 10 lots of 1 hour sessions Artemis including slightly more expensive entry costs as compared to Frankfurt clubs would work out at approximately 260 euros more or 215 British pounds. Although this sounds like a lot but if you consider I only get out to Germany at most twice a year it is just about acceptable. Okay so I have summed up all the pros and cons of Frankfurt vs Artemis Berlin as applicable to me and probably for quite a few others too. I have to make a decision between the two cities. My question simply is where would you go given the above? Maybe even a little poll here could be useful not just for me but for incoming members new to the fkk experience. All replies will ultimately help me put this into a clearer perspective and reach a more informed decision.
Many thanks.
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Your first time?
[QUOTE=Roba333; 1290664]Hello,
This is my first post so please bear with me.
I will be in Europe over the new year period and was considering visiting Frankfurt after New Year. Probably 3rd to 5th January. But I wondered if this is a good or bad time of year to visit? Whether many of the FKK girls will be away over Christmas and New year and there will be a poor selection?
Can anyone help?
Thanks[/QUOTE]If you have never been to an FKK, when you walk in for your first time you will think that you died and gone to heaven. Go to Oase.
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[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1290893]Well, it is not a great time to visit the clubs for just the reason you mention. Then again if it is the time you have there are always some girls working, just not quite the selection of stunners there may be at other times. Personally I find this time of year to have the advantage of being quite a bit more relaxed than in the middle of a busy time.
AM[/QUOTE]Thanks to you both. I wondered whether Amsterdam would be a better option. I'm keen to party with the hottest women possible due to the limited chance to get to Europe.
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[QUOTE=Roba333;1291020]Thanks to you both. I wondered whether Amsterdam would be a better option. I'm keen to party with the hottest women possible due to the limited chance to get to Europe.[/QUOTE]That time of year I think anywhere that you go you will find a lot of girls on vacation. And personally the FKK scene is way better than anything you will find in Amsterdam.
AM
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Yes, as a Dutchman I would definitely advise going the FKK route (if you're looking for p6). I was in the Oase and World at the end of December and there line up was pretty much the same as in November. Some girls were going home, but many were staying over the holidays (economic crisis right). In any case, having 70 girls instead of 100 girls, really shouldn't be a problem. It will also be quieter with customers, as there are family obligations and business in Frankfurt isn't the busiest.
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Imho
[QUOTE=Roba333;1291020]Thanks to you both. I wondered whether Amsterdam would be a better option. I'm keen to party with the hottest women possible due to the limited chance to get to Europe.[/QUOTE]Hey Roba333-
It's a bit hard to tell from your posts, but you give the impression that you may be new to the European mongering scene, altogether. Strictly from a mongering standpoint, if you are trying to compare a Frankfurt area FKK experience with possibly an Amsterdam Red Light experience, there is little comparison beyond the point that you will have sex with a working girl in both places, IMHO. Mongering with the window girls in Amsterdam can be fun, but, is pretty much a quick few minutes with your choice of a girl to get off and get out. If that's what you want to do, and then shift gears, to pursue some of Amsterdam's other somewhat unique offerings, you'll have to decide. And, the parts of Amsterdam that you are likely to want to spend your time in are very compact and walkable. But, that's not really the focus of this forum.
Going to an FKK club has so much more to offer beyond just the actually sex that you will probably be having. It can be your entire activity for the day, with food, drink, relaxation, with non-stop eye candy included. And, January is a nice time to plan your punter agenda inside, where it's warm and cozy, not outside walking the cold streets. If you are interested in the Amsterdam style pursuit, Frankfurt has the many Eros Center girls just a few blocks outside the HBF, which is somewhat comparable, with the exception, that you will spend more time inside climbing a lot of stairs. Believe me, these experiences can be very unpredictable from lady to lady, compared to the expectations that you are likely to have at an FKK!
It's a topic that's been dissected over and over, and if you read back through old posts, you can read a wide range of opinions about going to Area X, as opposed to going to Area Y. But, in the end, you will have to decide, based on your own individual expectations, for your own personal journey.
Horbate
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Info about NRW clubs?
Hello fellow mongers,
It is my first time mongering in Germany.
1. Can you please advise as to which of the following clubs have women completely nude walking around like the Frankfurt FKK clubs and which ones are easy to get to with pubic transportation (just mark easy or difficult, I will find out rest)
Goldentime.
Villa vertigo.
Samya.
Pascha.
Living Room.
Acapulco.
Dolce vita.
2. Which are the best clubs for GFE experience in the area.
3. Which are the best 'one fee, as many women as you can have' clubs (do not want gang bangs) although I read in some forums that these clubs tend to have 20 min cut-off sessions and service not-so-good, but I am sure there are a couple that are very good.
Good job all the fellow mongers with the posts, helped me a lot, promise to report as soon as I am done with the good deed / deeds.
Cheerios
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[QUOTE=Roba333;1291020]Thanks to you both. I wondered whether Amsterdam would be a better option. I'm keen to party with the hottest women possible due to the limited chance to get to Europe.[/QUOTE]Amsterdam window girls and a German Fkk is like comparing a McDonalds Big Mac and a decent home made meal.
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[QUOTE=Jerboa;1291323]Amsterdam window girls and a German Fkk is like comparing a McDonalds Big Mac and a decent home made meal.[/QUOTE]Yep.
Was there 2 days ago, not for mongering. I go there at least a couple of times a year.
The window girl thing is complete crap, imo. And it's getting worse and worse.
Amsterdam is a nice place for sightseeing, playing the tourist or hanging around in coffeeshops and restaurant, not for the window girls.
But I'm sure there's other options there for p4f.
Don't consider it an alternative to Berlin, Frankfurt or NRW.
Ciao.
Kimino
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[QUOTE=Jerboa;1291323]Amsterdam window girls and a German Fkk is like comparing a McDonalds Big Mac and a decent home made meal.[/QUOTE]I consider Amsterdam window girls as a part of city's tourist attractions, but not as alternative to FKK. I tried it once back in 2000 or so. Good enough to newer go there again.
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[QUOTE=Mohab; 1290931]Assuming members had the opportunity to spend one week in Berlin or one week in Frankfurt and also assuming that transport / hotel and living expenses were more or less equal in both cities. I would like to know where members would choose to spend their time and hard earnt money considering; Frankfurt; lower session costs than Artemis, lovely friendly nature of girls at Oase not found as much in Berlin and opportunity to visit more than one club. Berlin; Artemis in my opinion has the greatest hardware of any club immensely relaxing.
Many thanks.[/QUOTE]Ciao Mohab.
If I could only visit FKKs. 4 times over a 6 day period, I would choose Frankfurt. Simply because going 4 times in a row to Artemis (that I consider number 1 Fkk among the ones I visited) might result "boring", but that's personal.
In Frankfurt you could visit a different Fkk every day.
But, Berlin is not only Artemis. There's a lot more, a lot! Flat rates, brothels for any budget, gang bang places, etc. Etc.
Take a look at Angus Blog on the Berlin scene, bunch of info there and read Berlin's thread.
So, if visiting only Fkks is not a rule or if you know that getting "bored" is not an issue, go to Berlin and enjoy both girls and sightseeing. Otherwise go to Frankfurt.
My2cents.
Kimino
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[QUOTE=Mohab; 1290931]Assuming members had the opportunity to spend one week in Berlin or one week in Frankfurt and also assuming that transport / hotel and living expenses were more or less equal in both cities. I would like to know where members would choose to spend their time and hard earnt money considering; Frankfurt; lower session costs than Artemis, lovely friendly nature of girls at Oase not found as much in Berlin and opportunity to visit more than one club. Berlin; Artemis in my opinion has the greatest hardware of any club immensely relaxing. Berlin is a far more interesting city than Frankfurt hence making it easier to display some degree of illusion of being in Germany for more than grade A ass. A little less expensive day to day than Frankfurt and more blonde haired Germanic / Polish types at Artemis than in Frankfurt. However if my budget stretched to 4 four full days in clubs over one week allowing me to do 10 lots of 1 hour sessions Artemis including slightly more expensive entry costs as compared to Frankfurt clubs would work out at approximately 260 euros more or 215 British pounds. Although this sounds like a lot but if you consider I only get out to Germany at most twice a year it is just about acceptable. Okay so I have summed up all the pros and cons of Frankfurt vs Artemis Berlin as applicable to me and probably for quite a few others too. I have to make a decision between the two cities. My question simply is where would you go given the above? Maybe even a little poll here could be useful not just for me but for incoming members new to the fkk experience. All replies will ultimately help me put this into a clearer perspective and reach a more informed decision.
Many thanks. [/QUOTE]
Although Artemis girls are more beautiful and some have that nordic look that we like but I inevitably start missing the lovely and friendly natured girls at Oase during my trips to Artemis. IMO, the quality of sex at Oase is only duplicated at Club Globe of Zurich, however, my friend who sometimes accompanies me to these trips to FKKland fails to see the difference. But I explained to myself this unusual difference of opinion on account of his rather hefty form.
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Pubic transport?
[QUOTE=Mexican Lover; 1291314]Hello fellow mongers,
It is my first time mongering in Germany.
1. Can you please advise as to which of the following clubs have women completely nude walking around like the Frankfurt FKK clubs and which ones are easy to get to with pubic transportation (just mark easy or difficult, I will find out rest)
Goldentime.
Villa vertigo.
Samya.
Pascha.
Living Room.
Acapulco.
Dolce vita.
2. Which are the best clubs for GFE experience in the area.
3. Which are the best 'one fee, as many women as you can have' clubs (do not want gang bangs) although I read in some forums that these clubs tend to have 20 min cut-off sessions and service not-so-good, but I am sure there are a couple that are very good.
Good job all the fellow mongers with the posts, helped me a lot, promise to report as soon as I am done with the good deed / deeds.
Cheerios[/QUOTE]Pubic transport: nicer and new concept.
More seriously: I recommeand Bernds as the one for GFE, combined with pub (l) ic action. But it is closed on weeke ends and bank holidays.
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[QUOTE=Horbate; 1291304]Hey Roba333-
It's a bit hard to tell from your posts, but you give the impression that you may be new to the European mongering scene, altogether. Strictly from a mongering standpoint, if you are trying to compare a Frankfurt area FKK experience with possibly an Amsterdam Red Light experience, there is little comparison beyond the point that you will have sex with a working girl in both places, IMHO. Mongering with the window girls in Amsterdam can be fun, but, is pretty much a quick few minutes with your choice of a girl to get off and get out. If that's what you want to do, and then shift gears, to pursue some of Amsterdam's other somewhat unique offerings, you'll have to decide. And, the parts of Amsterdam that you are likely to want to spend your time in are very compact and walkable. But, that's not really the focus of this forum.
Going to an FKK club has so much more to offer beyond just the actually sex that you will probably be having. It can be your entire activity for the day, with food, drink, relaxation, with non-stop eye candy included. And, January is a nice time to plan your punter agenda inside, where it's warm and cozy, not outside walking the cold streets. If you are interested in the Amsterdam style pursuit, Frankfurt has the many Eros Center girls just a few blocks outside the HBF, which is somewhat comparable, with the exception, that you will spend more time inside climbing a lot of stairs. Believe me, these experiences can be very unpredictable from lady to lady, compared to the expectations that you are likely to have at an FKK!
It's a topic that's been dissected over and over, and if you read back through old posts, you can read a wide range of opinions about going to Area X, as opposed to going to Area Y. But, in the end, you will have to decide, based on your own individual expectations, for your own personal journey.
Horbate[/QUOTE]Hey thanks for your detailed erply.
I guess I'm looking to fulfill a number of fantasies when I do attend an FKK or other establishment. I just want to ensure I get the best experience, money not such an issue, and that I get the most beautiful girls, I don't want to come all the way to europe for some ropey looking middle aged hookers I could get anywhere!
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[QUOTE=Mexican Lover;1291314]. which ones are easy to get to with pubic transportation (just mark easy or difficult, I will find out rest) .[/QUOTE]Goldentime. Rather difficult
Acapulco: difficult.
Villa vertigo: dificult
Samya: excellent. Cologne HBF / Dom with U16 in direction Bad Godesberg / Sürth. 24 minutes (station: Michaelshoven). When 10 minutes walk, easy and convenient.
Living Room: very good. Duesseldorf HBF with so-called "Kaarster Bahn" to Kaarst-IKEA (station, around 25 minutes). When 500 meters walking distance.
Dolce Vita: also very easy. Take the S-Bahn at Duesseldorf HBF
Pascha: it's the Cologne brothel - no need to go
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