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OK.... my trip end report.
Back from 18 days in Ukraine, 10 in Kiev)
See my previous post for NIkolaiev and Zaporhozjie.
Kiev...... what to say?!?
Seems more a Western city than others, and have the defects of the Western (OK... just some)
I hit the top with the girls here:
10 total:
3 NON pros
3 SEMI pros
4 absolutely pros.
First the bad notes:
---Dasha (GiA escorts) .... sadly... a partial rip off. She do not speak a word of English (and this is never a problem to me) but mainly REFUSE to do any effort to understand and to be understood. Stunning girl, despite the age (32), sex a bit "cold". But mainly .....LAZY! she refused to come with me to the restaurant ( so I prepared an Italian dinner at home!). Summing up.... don't worth the expense.
- Svetlana, a semipro found at River Palace (in her 30s, a son of 11 yo). She speak a good English, nice body (slim one) but..... but..... she speak TOO MUCH!!!! During sex, she stops you many times to talk about the fuc...ing weather, music.... and so on!
If she did sex like she talked.... It will be a great choice. Sadly.... NOT!
- a non pro find on dating agencies, that tried only to pick all what she can from my wallet (I mean dinners and night clubs) but gave me only an hour of deep (anyway very good) french kissing. When I started to undress her.... she stopped my hands...... OK
Good ones
---Marina and Alesya from www.Kievescort.com (PRO)
Alesya is the kind of "Barbie girl". Really young (18, may be at least 20) and is really hot and good at ... work.
Marina is another kind (more romantic), but worth absolutely a try. Her BBBJ is one of the best I have tried in my life.
TO lazy people (Like I thought I was...) I recommend this agency. Serious and efficient, and really nice and good girls
-A couple of girls found on What's on Kiev. Good sex, good attitude, nice bodies (do not remember the names ....) (PRO)
---Irina (NON Pro) a nice (may be a bit overweighted to me, but I love the Auschwitz type.... :-) ) 23 yo blonde. Good English, good sex, relaxing.
---Ruslana (NON Pro) a nice 23 yo redhaired, good english, nice body, great sex. Just a sad note. She is the first UA girl that do NOT wash herself before sex. (It is not so a problem, I don't mean that she's dirty, but, guys, oral sex may be sometimes a bit "slowed down" from this thing.
--- Sveta, a semi-pro found in River Palace. 25 yo, nice body, great sex.
--Tatiana another semipro found in RP. 22 yo, exceptional body, less partecipative, but good sex anyway.
In total, a good week there.
Just some words of caution:
River Palace: very good environment. But if you become an addicted (I went there also after a date) you will discover also some more things.
Note for the lazy people: if you want to pick a pro or semi pro without "work", just sit in the two tables near the Night club bar.
In few time you will have 4 or 5 girls near you, asking to light a cigarette, or something else. Also for lazy guys: go there EARLY (I mean in the 11) and you will have the better choice.
To recognize a semipro or a pro at the first sight... is easy. They are the ONLY people not accompanied by the hostess at the table. They normally stay in the proximity of the bar, or in the first row of seats.
An hilarious note: I dated a girl (dating site) and have had a nice night together. But two days before, in River Palace, I was trying with a girl there, I turn my face and .... wham! here there! Not to mention the fact that I lost the new one.... :-) but I have had hard time also with the old.
So, guys, don't think that Kiev is a big city.... You can meet a girl many times and in different ways in these places!
Another (seems stupid.... NOT!) thing: NEVER forget the names of the girls! And possibly.... be greedy in sharing your phone number.....
I have had bad times with one that called me (while I was with another!) and she, feeling me a bit ... uh... embarrassed... asked me "What's my name?" 2 or 3 times. In that moment I have had completely forgot the names, and Boshe moi... I sweat a lot for some minutes...:-)
Last thing: have ALWAYS comdoms with you. Seems that some girls are sure that you'll come in Kiev with a bag full of them, so they come with you in the apartment and THEN ask you "Have you a condom?" T.G. I had.... otherwise don't know what to do.....
But they were really good days there. I highly recommend you to visit Kiev.
Ciao for now
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For all those who are looking to maybe learn some russian before you travel to this country, I would suggest trying your local university.
I wouldn't recommend taking a russian class unless you audit it because typically the instructor will demand more. However, the russian instructor at our local community college was more than willing to have me hook up with her brother in Kharkov for anything I wanted to know when I went.
If you are serious, try the local university and have them put a note on the bulletin board saying you are in need of a russian instructor/tutor. Chances are your local university/community college will have foreign exchange students and they will be looking to make some extra money. Not for sex though that may come up later but for teaching you the language.
You get first hand knowledge and instruction. They get some extra spending money. It's a win/win for everyone.
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It sounds like a real language class now,where are we guys? In Rus 101 lecture?? You think all eyes are gonna turn on you if you speak perfect Russian? That will only make you ordinary and another member of the crowds out there!! I've never used even one word of Russian so far,though I can understand and speak a bit. Try to grasp a few words of Ukrainian if you aim to be interesting and different.Never forget the golden rule,being able to communicate with a girl in every way is always a disadvantage.
Moreover,trying to get a response in a foreign language will automatically raise the level of quality.
As for visas,it's really fun to enter Ukraine for the first time with a touristic visa,especially if you travel by car or try to hide some of the money you have!
Dnipro Hotel has always been guest friendly and it's at your hand to make any hotel guest friendly by acting in a strong and eager manner without any hesitaitons.
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Uke Boy, thanks for the top tips.
Am interested in the kind of place where you can turn up, choose a girl and get sorted there and then and be out in a couple of hours.
Any ideas
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Well, I am in Kiev. I visited Rest Town. Was basicaly like it was last May when I was there. Although the girls are not so happy with the place. Met up with a tall tan Ukraine girl lenna. Was about a 7. A true pro. Although it was late I was tired and did not feel like much barter in me I agreed to price and away I went. Was not hasseled when I left Rest Town. Well I still have about 8 mor days to go and still manyplaces to go.
I thought you all would like an update on the Rest Town.
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Could it be possible that a girl you meet for the first time for a few hours(starsfromheaven.co.uk) invites you to disco at 3o'clock after midnight and visits you back in the morning? Or even calls you all of a sudden after 1 month and tells she's ready to go on vacation with you for a whole week,not even mentioning about money? Sounds like a dream or paradise.
It snows like hell here,but who cares?
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Hey Armorer,
So are you saying that they are still operating the rooms downstairs or did you have to take her back to the hotel. And how much did she charge if you don't mind me asking?
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Hello everybody out there,
Can anybody tell me, where I can find a place for an erotic massage here in Kiev (Adress, next Metro, Price)?
The girls in the bars and pubs are very friendly (also the non pros). What is possible with the non pros, do they wanna just rip you off or they are really that friendly than they appear?
And which places I have to check out for some fun?
Thanx a lot in advance for your help.
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Well I Just returned from Kiev. Was a might bit cold my last day there. Was a balmy -8 wonderful. I had a nice time of it.
Blake7:
Yes there was the opertunity to take her down stairs but I had just gotten into town and was more interested in appartment style fun. So I took her back. We talked a bit in between and got a little info on it. Still $50 for sauna with girl. So it was basically what I was quoted back in May last year.
While there I made a few stops at River Palace. Was not a bad time. Picked up a couple nice women for some fun. Will post a pic later. I am kinda tired just getting home and all.
Also checked out this new place that opened up. Used to be a place Called "Cowboy Club" Now it's called " MOJO" it basically a smallish resturaunt with light strip show in the evenings. Later that is. Not bad at times I only got to visit there 2 times. Did meet this 8 name of Vita. Boy was she nice. Blonde bout 5'5" well any how. I am off for now check back in later.
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Hi all, and thanks for everyone for your tips.
Special thanks for Uke Boy. It seems you have very good experience, and know to give excellent advice. And thank's for Snowy and Vegamars for your info. Also thnks, for Mangus Man, I see you have a lot of knowledge fron the girls in Ukraine, thanks.
Maybe it will help, so I will report from my trip to Kive, Hope some of you readers may benefit from my report.
I lived in France all my life, I am new in the USA, But I traveled once to Kive for business, I was in Kive Oct 03 for about 1 week.
I went to Kive with a group, we were in the DNIPRO HOTEL, and because I am in a business group, plus I do not speaking Ukraine, my choices are limited. I can not walk up and down those streets, start talking to a girl and ask for a good time, ect. The best for me is to see ladies outcall to my hotel, so I try to call an escort agency, I most tell you it was a very hard time for me.
On the second day around 2:00 pm in the afternoon, I get out from DNIPRO HOTEL. I told my group I am going to spend the day and the night for shopping on the street alone, and I will be back in middle of the night.
I went out from my HOTEL and from my group, I ask a taxi-cab to take me to the PRESIDENT HOTEL. A room cost 80$ USD. Called an agency, I forget the name right now, (I find the agency on the net, the web is now closed). I have the number in my book, the phone number is:44.264.4804. A lady answered the phone and told me she will come over to me in my room, in the next hour, to discuss with me. I was waiting two hours. She came over and brought for me three books with photos from all kind of beautiful girls. I chose a girl, she ask me "and if the girl will not be available?". I chose another girl and another girl, I told her "You get the idea the kind of girl I like?". She told me "ok". She told me the price of the girl is 50 $ for an hour, and I agree.
Then she aske me to pay her 35$ for the servercies, to come to see me and to bring me the photos, and also taxi fee. I paid her 40$, she told me, the girl will be in my hotel room in the next hour.
I was waiting for two or three hours, she never show up. I call the woman, she told me she can not find a girl this night! I ask her, and I told her "I paid you $40 for nothing?" She took down my phone number. She call me back and send me a beautiful, blond, slim, tall, tan and really nice, girl, but she ask for 1 hour $200. I do not want to pay her, and she left the room, I call the agency again and again, but after a while she told to me "I do not have no more girl's".
She also told me, that the girls do not want to come in the PRESIDENT HOTEL, if I want, I can come to their room "incoal", but I do not want to go out from the PRESIDENT HOTEL, I do not want my group should see me on the street, plus I am afraid to met the girl not in my room, so I can not have a girl from the agency. And because I pay her 40 $, I feel she riped me off.
I try to call next agency cold "Exotic Ukrainian Escort Agency". The phone number is 380.48.221.8950, and 380.48.743.7805, but nobody anser the phone, I tried alot of times, don't seem to have the luck. I was really lost!
BTW in middle my anger, I went down in the loby from the hotel, and in the bar from the hotel, find nuthing. (PRESIDENT hotel is not in the middle of a big street, it is, I think, like in a corner from the city).
I search on the web "prosex", call up a girl name Lenna. Ask her if she can come over, she told me "yes, in the next 15 min". But she is afraid to come in the hotel lobby, so I should go down in the loby and wait for her.
But near the exit door, I find a very nice tall girl, with a nice looking & very skinny, she ran in to me and started talking to me "For $50 I can have sex with you?" But because I call already called Lenna, I told for this nice lady "NO."
After a while, I saw Alana. Young, brown skin, blace hair, for 50 $ FS. Very good and she knows her job quite well! Doing everything without asking for more money, she was really cute, and she started working on me quickly! The absolute best sex of I've ever had!
When we were done, I went back to my group, I make business for 3 days.
By the end, I have 1 day off, I took a texi going to a hotel in Kive, the "BRATISLAVA HOTEL". I paid 59$ from the room. I get in the hotel, near the elevator, I find a man who speaks English, I ask to him if he can help me to get a girl. He told me for 50 $ yes! I will bring you a nice girl, but he told me not to come back in the lobby, the girl will come to my room. I go up in my room, I was waiting 2 hour, finally a man knocked on the door. He came in with two girl, 1) A girl in her 40s. tall, blace hair. 2) A blond with long hair, tall, yoing, in her 20s. I ask for number 2. She was over all good. But not very good. And not good like Lenna from the PRESIDENT HOTEL, she refused to french kiss at all, do not let me fuck her twice, only once. I ask her I like your pussy and ass, see not let me kiss it, but I offered her $50 more and she agree to let em kiss her pussy, but still not do it twice. I was with her like two hours, then the man knocked on the door, and picked up the girl.
I went back to the DNIPRO HOTEL, and came back home in the USA.
Bottem line: Because I did not go to KIVE alone, only with my group, plus my English is not good, so I most to go with an escort agency. I do not have luck till now with an agency.
I will be back in KIVE for business in april 04, I hope I will have better luck.
can any one give me som advice, tips, info. ???
Question: It is not ther tapes or CD to learn how to speak the language? I have tape's from "pimsleur speak & read", but I learned the language is very hard.
Last Question: Can I bring in a girl in the BORISPOL HOTEL in a room, with no hassles? Is the hotel a good place? The price is very good, 40 USD a night. Also, the girls from the city from Kiev will want to come to the the BORISPOL HOTEL. I was there once, in middle of the night, went go down to the lobby, find nothing. Went to the bar, and to the restaurant next door, but find nothing.
Thanks agin, and all the best.
her555
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HER555, don't take me wrong, but if I have to have sex like you in Kiev I will ask to become a MONK!!!!
SHIT! were you in a group of nuns?!? Fuck the group, DNIPRO is a good hotel!. Close in your room and call an escort agency! Girl will be delivered directly to your room!
How many hotels have you visited? How many you have paid?
At least, pick a girl and go to a sauna, but a life (in Kiev) like yours was terrible!
Go to River Palace, pick a girl and go back to your DNIPRO! Is your group stationing permanently in Tthe hall or in front of your room? Please, wake-up!
If one of your colleagues see you .... who cares? you are not with another man or a transexual! You're a man, she is a girl, and you'll FUCK!!! Like all other men in Kiev, Paris, Rome and Timbuktu.....
Sorry for the words, but I didn't wantto offend you.... just give you a ....wake-up call ....:-)
Better luck for the next trip!
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Before you come back from the US,never ever forget the following:
Send your business(??!) group to Nevada or Alaska for free so that it can find some new petroleum reserves out there!!
Don't think you need two or three hotels to meet a girl,Dnipro Hotel is the best option in town for taking girls and besides you can even do without a hotel or apartment of yours.
Don't you ever call a girl from Odessa,it'll take at least 5-6 hrs for her to show up.
Don't forget the golden rule of Kiev-no matter how many girls you're entitled to meet,the first one you encounter takes precedence even though you might see her for the first time in your life.
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Thenks for all, for your rspoand
Originally posted by Vegamars:
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Don't forget the golden rule of Kiev-no matter how many girls you're entitled to meet, the first one you encounter takes precedence even though you might see her for the first time in your life.
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Can you explin thet golden rule, for me?
Thanks in advance.
Her555
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It's not a rule to explain or understand,you must feel it inside and live through??
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Hi Vegamars,
I know I haven't earned the right to post on the Ukraine section as I haven't made a trip to this country yet. I think you have a lot to add from your experiences in the Ukraine, but many posters would probably find your information more helpful if it wasn't put forth in a Zen master sort of way. Maybe a little more elaboration on details and concepts? Thanks.