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peter_girth,
I respect your opinion but I enjoy this board and I do not want to see anything happen to it because some "men" enjoy teenagers for companions.
He can keep his thoughts to himself and not jeopardize this wonderful forum.
It is just my opinion.
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>I respect your opinion but I enjoy this board and I do not want to see anything happen to it because some "men" enjoy teenagers for companions.
What a load of judgemental BS. For the record, I am 46, my girlfriend is 26. I met her when she was 19 and I was 38 and we have been together, and having sex, for 6 1/2 years. And is just happens that in MY state the legal age of consent for sex is 16 years of age. Meaning if I had been 35 and she had been 16 I probably would have gone for it. Not that the circumstances that brought us together would have been as favorable at that point, it is just for the sake of argument.
The legal age of consent for sex in Mexico is, as I understand, 16 years of age. At least that is what I have read. The same age as in 36 of the 50 United States. Many countries and some of the United States is older, and some it is younger. FL and NC it is a LOT younger. So what is the problem with a fellow having a younger girlfriend? Is it that YOU can only land an old hag and not a sexy young honey 20 years your junior?? Maybe you have a 16 (or 19) year old daugher and can't stand the thought of a grown man sticking his dick in her?? Whatever your hangup about a man having a younger girlfriend it is YOUR hangup, don't pass your baggage on to us.
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peter-g,
The age of consent in Mexico is 16, BUT only if both parties are under 18, If you are over 18 and get caught with a 16 year old, your ass is grass.......
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guys, i am not an advocate for **** sex, but as an american if i went to another country and banged a girl under 18, i am subject to u.s. laws and prosecution when i return to the u.s. it doesn't matter if the age of consent in the country that i visited was 12! as long as i am a u.s. citizen, i am subject to the laws of the united states.
fyi: www.ageofconsent.com
very informative
go to the chart
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(I posted this in the Mexico Info section as well. Although there is no need to defend myself from the one man crusade of "Boxing",I still feel the need to clarify myself to the people who have never read my posts or met me in person)
Wow. Go away for a few days and people are calling for your head! (Or at least one person is).
For the people who know me and have read my posts over the years, I obviously don't need to explain myself. But for "the challenged few" such as Boxing, I would like to make some things clear.
First, having a girlfriend and having a lover are sometimes two different things. I met my girlfriend in a store and I never even suspected that she was 16 until it happened to come up a couple of weeks later. For those who know, Mexican girls often look much older than their age. I was naive about this too until I moved to Mexico. And, as Bill Clinton once said, "I never had sexual relations with that woman." When I found out her age I did everything I could to end the relationship ASAP despite the efforts of the girl and her parents to keep us together. So, you are the perverted one if you just assumed that I was porking this innocent little girl.
Second, I AM of Hispanic ancestry and I speak from first hand experience. The women will almost all tell you here in Mexico that they want an American man who will be less of a sexist than the typical Mexican man. In my three years of living here in Mexico, I've never heard a Mexican woman sing the praises of Mexican men. Does that mean that ALL Mexican men are bad? No. It just means that Mexican men tend to be more traditional with regards to gender roles and many of the modern Mexican women want careers and the sharing of houselhold chores that many American women have. Once again, from first hand experience I can tell you that the Mexican women that I've met find American men more sensitive and supportive. (Although I visit to Mexico from "Boxer" may change their impressions). They may not have had personal experience with American men, but this is their impression. And I have to say that, in general, it is a correct impression from what I've seen. The married men that I know treat their women as maids and the majority have lovers on the side. Is this a racist statement on my part? I don't care because racism is in the eyes of the beholder. I know that I'm not racist against any race, especially hispanics (since I AM a hispanic and I've chosen to live in MEXICO, moron.)
Finally, Boxing, I don't have to answer to you or anyone else. My previous posts speak for me. Obviously you were either too lazy or stupid to check them out. I just feel the need to clarify myself to any other lunk head that chooses to get his panties all in a bunch over some imagined violation. This is the last that I will comment on this because it is a waste of time and space. If anyone should be banned from this board, it should be Boxer for starting a flame war and wasting everybody's time. ( I strongly suspect that Boxer may have had a problem with me before when he used a previous handle and just wanted to lash out at me once again. )
Take care all, Merry X-mas and stay safe.
Despite the lunk heads of the world, I am still:
The Happiest Man Alive :)
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miller2k,
since you are of hispanic ancestry that means your dad (according to your racist theory) treated your mother like a bad person. remember this is your theory of personal experience not mine. i pity your mom.
(this is the best one)miller2k stated "i did everything i could to end the relationship asap despite the efforts of the girl and her parents to keep us together." yes i am sure it was hard to break up with a 16 year old baby. lol
a pervert is an old man and a 16 year old period. you used the word girlfriend not i.
if you read my post about personal experiences it is just the opposite. but unlike you i did not post them on this board until i read your racist rhetoric.
miller2k stated "i know that i'm not racist against any race, especially hispanics (since i am a hispanic and i've chosen to live in mexico, moron.)
excuse me did not strom thurmond speak about seperation of the races yet he had a black daughter. hmmmmm.
i think you chose to live in mexico because you have the racist concept that i am better because i am an american. i pity you. what a way to live thinking you are better than others because you are american.
miller2k just for your information i have never met you before or had any problems with you until i read your racist **** post.
you and the michael jacksons in the world stay out of this board please.
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>FYI: www.ageofconsent.com
>Very informative
That is a good one, thanks. According to this site the legal age of consent for sex in Mexico is 12. That sounds a little young to me. I would not advise getting caught porking a 12 year old down there. You might end up as someone's girlfriend yourself.
And it looks like Florida has been shamed into raising their legal age up from 12 to 18 (16 if you are under 25), which is a little extreme and out of line with most of the country where it remains 16. Looks like FL is no longer Club Ped, so Boxing Rule will have to find somewhere else to play chicken hawk. How are things going there on Neverland Ranch, BTW. NC remains 13 though, as long as you are no more than 6 years older than your honey and 16 for the rest of us.
And before Reverend Boxing Rule starts calling ME a racist, since all of his other arguments have been exposed for the unalloyed bullshit they really are, I am half Spanish and half Irish, and by girlfriend is African-American.
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just fyi, guys, i don't support **** sex either, but if you are a legal visitor to a country (on your passport, etc) you are subject to the laws of that country only unless you are on a us military base or embassy property. for instance, sex work is legal in amsterdam, but not in the most of the us. if you visit a brothel in amsterdam, you aren't subject to solicitation laws in the us! only if you transport a lady under the age of consent in the us (particular state) for the purpose of having sex, you haven't broken any us laws by engaging in sex with her in her country (as long as it was legal there). now, you may still be a sick jerk, but you are not a criminal. of course, if you marry her in a foriegn country, majority is conveyed if you bring her back to the us regardless of her age. that is ins statute and not subject to state law.
winston (j.d.)
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winston569 said:
"just fyi, guys, i don't support **** sex either, but if you are a legal visitor to a country (on your passport, etc) you are subject to the laws of that country only ......"
you forget that you live in a country where the slime politicians just love to pass unenforcable, feel-good legislation just so they can get up on their hind legs and crow about it come election time in an effort to perpetrate their power structure. and unfortunately most of the time it works.
it is a crime for a us citizen to travel abroad for the purpose of having sex with a "minor", minor being defined as someone under the age of 18. it is also a crime to conspire to do so, therefore if you are in the business of organizing overseas tours to foreign countries where the age of consent is quite young, and there is the implication that the purpose of the tour is to have sex with minors, the government can prosecute you under this statute even if you keep your dick in your pants.
now someone tell me how the fuck the stupid government is going to enforce such a ridiculous law?? as if they did not have enough other shit out there in this world to worry about. are they going to follow every traveller to every country in the world and check the id of everyone the stick their dicks in?? probably not. and even if they did and even if the traveller did fuck someone who would be considered a minor in the us, they still have the burden of proving that the purpose of the travel in the first place was to engage in sex with minors and not that it just happened incidentally to the travel. another utter waste of your hard earned but easily confirep001ed tax dollars.
this law is far more problematic if the folks like mac horn and others who organize tours to thailand, the phillipines, ect, where the age of consent is young and the girls are plentiful. they don't need much of a connection to at least haul them in and force them to empty their bank accounts defending themselves, even if the prosecutor knows that he really doesn't have a case. and no recourse or recovering expenses either, so they are effectively put out of business without anything actually resembling due process. so much for that pesky innocent until proven guilty thing. another good use for your tax dollars there, putting legitimate, tax-paying businessmen out of business.
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peter,
just ignore "boxer". obviously, he is obssessed with ****philia even when confronted with the truth. his fixation on **** sex is very shocking and quite sad. i can only pray that he doesn't have a daughter. he's the type of pervert who runs to church sunday and molests his daughter that same night, only to somehow justify his actions with his holier than thou attitude. he reminds me of the freak preacher jimmy swaggart who was screwing everything that walked while, at the same time, being "outraged."
he sent me a private message where he obssessed about how my father probably raped my sister. what a freak. let's be patient, though. he was probably molested himself and has yet to work through the trauma.
this is a board and a community where, while we don't always agree, we are still united in many aspects. he is the only person fixated on this imagined violation and he deserves to be alone with his perverted fixation.
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How about some reports on some lovely tapatias? This arguing is boring and very repetitive. I will soon be in GDL and will file a nice report regarding some semi-pro girls that a taxista is going to set me up with. he said that they are young housewifes looking to make a little holiday $$$.
To all concerned when I say youg I mean > than 19 years old.
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Ok, yes that is correct. However, it is based on the assumption that you "conspired" to do this and planned your trip while you were in the US, and therefore subject to US laws. If, in your travels, you "conspire" and have sex with a minor while in a foriegn country, you are violating no laws. Again, it is not illegal to have sex with a "minor" (under 18) in a foreign country. It IS illegal however to conspire to do so and to travel abroad for this purpose. It is a fine point, but goes to the enforcability issue as you bring up. Your internet company based in the US for example can't advertise a trip etc as you state. Again, your point however is well taken re: politicians and goverment. My advice as a lawyer is to follow the laws in the country you visit, and be discreet enough not to flaunt any US laws you happen to "bend" during your trip (don't hang yourself with your own rope, so to speak)
Winston
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i promise this is the last:
yes, boxer, i pmed you first: to say that we shouldn't continue this on the public board. obviously, you aren't very good at following instructions. you are the sick freak that focused on child [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] in your response to me.
if you think that going out on a handful of dates with a girl you didn't know was 16 and breaking it off shortly after finding out her age is ****philia, then you are either retarded or obsessed with child molestation from personal trauma. you are more of a **** than i am for your bizarre private message to me which involved your demented fantasy about my sister being raped. (and, yes, i have the copy also.)
****philia involves going out on purpose with an ****d girl and having sexual relations. it isn't ****philia if you simply date a girl and never ask her age based on the assumption that she looks well in her early 20's. boxer, do you ask for proof of age from all the cg's and sw's you "date"? if not, then go to hell and stop being such a skid mark on the underpants of life.
to all the others on this board, i apologize but this moron is constantly making very serious allegations against me. anybody with half a brain knows that i have come out in defense of women and against ****d mongering in the past. boxer and his imagined brigade of fellow lunk-heads need to get over themselves. you are the one who should go to another board if you can't get over your own stupidity. all you've contributed here is cracks about bo, penis size and moral outrage over absolutely nothing.
boxer, you should change your screen name. you give a bad name to those of us involved in the sport of boxing. and you give a bad name to mongering and the male species as well.
go back to the dirty, kiddie porn mags that you have stashed under your pillow and stop projecting your perversions onto this board.
to everyone else: have a nice x-mas!!!
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I try to stay away from personal bashing as much as possible. But, for this case, it's way too difficult.
Boxer: I hung out with Miller several times in Mexico. He is an honest guy just like many of us. He was an experienced monger and gave tons of useful tips for many guys. It was sad news when I heard he retired from the mongering business.
Merry X-Mas.
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Hello fellow mongerers. I'm looking for info on the scene in Guadalajara. I'll be there for the big show in March and I'd love to sample the local flavors.
Lots of flaming in this forum, makes me feel right at home. If someone can direct me to a post of USEFUL information however, I'd be forever grateful!
I like the SW scene, I'm gringo with no Spanish (no disrespect) and am interested in numbers ($$) and tactics. I treat the ladies right and have no quirks (that I'm willing to admit to anyway).
Maybe a member who knows about the show and can help with the scene via contact.
Thanks.
Be Safe and BE NICE
Country John