American Politics

Highly unscientific and not necessary reliable polls in European newspapers show overwhelming support for Obama among readers. No surprise there, but don't you think Obama is going to be an enormous let down for majority of American voters? Expectations of Change, are almost beyond reality, given current state of finance and coming recession. Needless to say, some of you may question Obama's odds of launching his agenda successfully, others will have no doubts.

While Obama's charisma and common sense approach is irresistable to most voters, his honeymoon may be short, if people keep losing jobs and economy heads south. Additionally, the fact that skin colour still matters, is highly controversial, and is going to affect Obama's most certain presidency. So far, he's been very cautious by focusing on real world issues, but reading latest posts here, I see the unspoken issue is still surfacing.

Anyway, I wish good luck to both candidates, but don't think there will be much of a change.

[QUOTE=Leeuwen]Highly unscientific and not necessary reliable polls in European newspapers show overwhelming support for Obama among readers. No surprise there, but don't you think Obama is going to be an enormous let down for majority of American voters? Expectations of Change, are almost beyond reality, given current state of finance and coming recession. Needless to say, some of you may question Obama's odds of launching his agenda successfully, others will have no doubts.

While Obama's charisma and common sense approach is irresistable to most voters, his honeymoon may be short, if people keep losing jobs and economy heads south. Additionally, the fact that skin colour still matters, is highly controversial, and is going to affect Obama's most certain presidency. So far, he's been very cautious by focusing on real world issues, but reading latest posts here, I see the unspoken issue is still surfacing.

Anyway, I wish good luck to both candidates, but don't think there will be much of a change.[/QUOTE]

All I'll say is -

FDR did ALOT in his first 100 days and today things aren't much different. We didn't have a complete collapse because of the protections Teddy and Franklin put in place because of Conservative movement. Look the Conservative movement weather it was Dem or Republican, Wigs or whatever, they have crashed the economy more than once, actually they have done it TWICE!

They under-mined Reconstruction, they crashed the economy twice in the 1800's, they don't deserve to rule ever again, period.

[QUOTE=Leeuwen] but don't you think Obama is going to be an enormous let down for majority of American voters? Expectations of Change, are almost beyond reality, given current state of finance and coming recession. Needless to say, some of you may question Obama's odds of launching his agenda successfully, others will have no doubts.[/QUOTE] If they think like the lady in this interview, (and I think many do) yes they’re in for a big let down.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=381gFG4Crr8[/url]

[quote=punter 127]if they think like the lady in this interview, (and i think many do) yes they’re in for a big let down.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=381gfg4crr8[/url][/quote]

ummm nope, you must not be reading anything but there is a movement that the "liberal media" doesn't talk about because to them its bad news for say nbc/msnbc who is own by ge who beyond toasters and such makes parts for bombs, missiles and fighter jets.... conflict of interest homie.

much of hollywood, the recording industry and the telecommunications market is anti-net neutrality, obama supports net neutrality and opening up the "white signals" (unused tv signals) for nation-wide wifi system, as proposed by google.

the us chamber of commerce is trying to push back against the employee free choice act including wal-mart. obama and almost the entire dem congress supports this act - done

the automakers say they need more money to stay afloat, obama has said he'll listen. he will, no hidden agendas - done

he's bullish on a green economy and frankly you need to get on the bus too dawg its about to leave you at the station. prop 1a in california will get passed and we'll have the first real high speed rail system in america, paid for by the bond and federal funds obama and congress will make available.

those making 250,000 and up will get higher taxes, ha-ha, i'm not crying for you. that itself will pay for most of the programs that will happen anyway. putting the country back to work means larger tax base for sales taxes and income taxes

i think its 30 million americans make $50,000 or less and living paycheck to paycheck including me.

i'm not going to keep breaking it down for people, the government via congress and every president since carter has looked out for you. a nation is judged on how it treats its least among them. current grading of the united states at d -

28th in health care
30th in infant mortality
us ranked 19th best place to live
only mexico and turkey has a worst wealth to poverty spread

we have plenty of money to prop up phony governments, fight clandestine wars, fight wars period and bail out s&l's and now wall street and investment banks, it has to stop... this is not the time to be fiscally conservative because most of the people arguing for that already got theirs...

[quote=dj fourmoney]ummm nope, you must not be reading anything but there is a movement that the "liberal media" doesn't talk about because to them its bad news for say nbc/msnbc who is own by ge who beyond toasters and such makes parts for bombs, missiles and fighter jets.... conflict of interest homie.

much of hollywood, the recording industry and the telecommunications market is anti-net neutrality, obama supports net neutrality and opening up the "white signals" (unused tv signals) for nation-wide wifi system, as proposed by google.

the us chamber of commerce is trying to push back against the employee free choice act including wal-mart. obama and almost the entire dem congress supports this act - done

the automakers say they need more money to stay afloat, obama has said he'll listen. he will, no hidden agendas - done

he's bullish on a green economy and frankly you need to get on the bus too dawg its about to leave you at the station. prop 1a in california will get passed and we'll have the first real high speed rail system in america, paid for by the bond and federal funds obama and congress will make available.

those making 250,000 and up will get higher taxes, ha-ha, i'm not crying for you. that itself will pay for most of the programs that will happen anyway. putting the country back to work means larger tax base for sales taxes and income taxes

i think its 30 million americans make $50,000 or less and living paycheck to paycheck including me.

i'm not going to keep breaking it down for people, the government via congress and every president since carter has looked out for you. a nation is judged on how it treats its least among them. current grading of the united states at d -

28th in health care
30th in infant mortality
us ranked 19th best place to live
only mexico and turkey has a worst wealth to poverty spread

we have plenty of money to prop up phony governments, fight clandestine wars, fight wars period and bail out s&l's and now wall street and investment banks, it has to stop... this is not the time to be fiscally conservative because most of the people arguing for that already got theirs...[/quote]

hi dj fourmoney,

my post was intended to be a reply to leeuwen, but i hope your tirade made you feel better. i guess we all need to vent from time to time.

i’m sure you didn’t mean anything by it but, my name is punter 127 (on this forum) and not “homie” or “dawg”. please don’t call me names and i won’t call you names, ok?
i consider names like that offensive.

i’m glad you’re [i]“not going to keep breaking it down for people”[/i] because we’ve all heard that socialist bullshit before, and i’m not drinking the kool-aid!
but hey that’s just me, to each his own.

now if you think the lady in the video won’t have to worry about buying gas or making mortgage payments (that’s what she said, and that was the point of my post) just because obama becomes president, well that pretty much makes my case and speaks for itself.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=381gfg4crr8[/url]

feel free to rant all you want, but i won’t be replying.

have a nice day!

As I said, slowly but surely we are overcoming that.

Do you think it was a coincidence that they picked a black man to voice Darth Vader? :)

I know what you mean about the last part. I was reply to a girl on a local dating site and she asked me what I was, in context of English, Irish, Japanese, Martian, Whatever. I replied, American.

[QUOTE=DJ FourMoney]Well.... There are more negative things in the world that are black than are white. White is seen as "pure", "correct" "right"

Black -

You know - The 8 Ball, (Fear of a) Black Hat, Black Cats, Dark Vader - Black is seen as BAD, Negative, Ugly, Horrible.

Draw from what you will, but it would be much better when your just a plain ole "American" like you are in Europe. I'm not a Black American in Europe, I'm just an American that happens to be Black and its not seen as a negative...[/QUOTE]

Anyone else catch AP breaking that Obama's aunt is living in the US illegally. In Boston no less in government housing for the last five years. It will be interesting to see how Obama will handle it. Illegal immigration was a real sore issue with the middle class before they got worried about paying their mortgage. Anyone caught in the country illegally should be deported at once. Caught a second time jail time. NO government social benefits for ANY non citizens, legal or otherwise.

[QUOTE=Cruiser D]Anyone else catch AP breaking that Obama's aunt is living in the US illegally. In Boston no less in government housing for the last five years. It will be interesting to see how Obama will handle it. Illegal immigration was a real sore issue with the middle class before they got worried about paying their mortgage. Anyone caught in the country illegally should be deported at once. Caught a second time jail time. NO government social benefits for ANY non citizens, legal or otherwise.[/QUOTE]Yeah I caught that. If I were him I'd avoid making ANY statement on it until after the election, except for maybe a "it's being investigated".

Damned if you do damned if you don't. In any case, pretty damn funny.

[QUOTE=Doctor_Skank]Yeah I caught that. If I were him I'd avoid making ANY statement on it until after the election, except for maybe a "it's being investigated".

Damned if you do damned if you don't. In any case, pretty damn funny.[/QUOTE]


she's the half sister of his absentee father. i assume that barrack will have her ass deported--with her tacit complicity-and arrange for her to get a few bucks in niroabi.

[QUOTE=DirkDingy]she's the half sister of his absentee father. i assume that barrack will have her ass deported--with her tacit complicity-and arrange for her to get a few bucks in niroabi.[/QUOTE]

It's not like he picked her to be his running mate, and then discovered that she misused her office to cover her family's travel expenses, or to get her relative fired. It's also not like his wife was delinquent on the property taxes on a condo in La Jolla. The difference is, those inappropriate/illegal acts were all committed by someone McCain CHOSE to be with, not some distant relative Obama has nothing to do with.

[QUOTE=Member #2041]It's not like he picked her to be his running mate, and then discovered that she misused her office to cover her family's travel expenses, or to get her relative fired. It's also not like his wife was delinquent on the property taxes on a condo in La Jolla. The difference is, those inappropriate/illegal acts were all committed by someone McCain CHOSE to be with, not some distant relative Obama has nothing to do with.[/QUOTE]


This situation can't be attributed to Obama's actions while Palin's faux paus are a result of her actions.

Palin is well out of her league on the national stage...even most folks in the conservative movement admit this.

The situation in of itself isn't about Obama, it's how he reacts to it that will be the most telling. His best course of action would be, 'I believe the immigration officials are investigating it now'.

The middle class's seething discontent about the illegal immigration issue is something that the mainstream media or the pols have not wanted to touch on or acknowledge. As some might imagine I’m quite active in the local blogs, this has touched off a firestorm.

Massachusetts (Boston) is a beacon for illegals due to ‘a don’t ask don’t tell’ policy and enormously generous government funded social benefits.

Happy to say Obama said in a TV interview if she's in the country illegally the laws should be obeyed and she should be deported. I was on the fence on Obama, I was going to vote for a third party nut job but I think I'll push the chad for Barry tomorrow, not that it matters the electoral college has made my vote useless in my particular state.

Some people will spin that negatively, Obama deporting his wee old aunt.

I saw an interview with some tribal elders in a village where Obama's relatives supposedly once lived, and the villagers are all watching the election as if it is their own.

One interviewed elder was quite certain that when Obama becomes president, he would set aside some land in the US where people from Kenya could live too... or at least those from the village.

Was kinda cute.

My prediction - McCain win due to a generous sufficiency of racism in Pennsylvania and Virginia.