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[i]Everyone agrees that to go bareback with the girls is not a problem. [/i]
I've not heard that said by anyone here, regardless of belief about the actual HIV/AIDS rate. Skinless and I have both confessed to catching STDs in LOS. If you're hearing that going condomless is safe, then it's time to hang out with different "everyones."
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Joe Zop,
I think what was meant is "to go bareback is not difficult to get if you want".
Let's have it repeated once again: unprotected sex is dangerous, even more so with a paid sex provider.
STDs happen that way, and so do unwanted pregnancies (a much underrated psychological misery endured by many Farangs).
This being said, TGs have a carefree if not careless attitude about pretty much everything in life. That is part of their Thainess. This includes a relatively low importance given to any precaution, including condoms.
Never count on the lady to enforce safe sex practices; In Thailand, she might not do it, or no consistently. (Consistency is another dirty word in Thai).
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hey gang,
when i said we all agree getting bareback is not a problem i meant getting it. i did not mean it is safe. getting it though depends on what you look like. if the thai girl likes you and or is attracted to you it is very possible. if you are overweight or not attractive to the thai girl i think it will be harder. thai women do what they want as long as they are having fun. i would like to ask opebo a question. o**** did you ever catch any std's or have any negative experiences to share with us about going bareback? i would like a section added to the forum about negative experiences with std's to the forum. i think it would save lives. i will share one. i went to a san francisco massage palor. a nice 26 year old vitnam girl gave me a bareback blowjob. the following day i broke out in white hives all over my body. i went to the doctor and he asked my if i been to asia? anyway, he gave me a shot and i was better in two days. that was the last time i ever got a bareback blow from a working girl.
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I have a question about anal sex with Thai girls. What percent of the time do the girls bleed? I wouldn't enjoy the experience of blood everywhere. Anyone with experiences I would like to hear.
Thanks
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chiman ii
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what percent of the time do the girls bleed?
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i guess you are not talking about their period.
why should they bleed at all ?
use lots of ky jelly or another lubricant, go soft and slow and everything will be fine. the hardest part is to convince them that you won't hurt them, cause most of them already tried or want to try it, but had bad experiences or heard many negative comments from friends. too many men seem not to care about the girls feelings and what they scare.
so again, soft and slow with lots of lubricant, you might speed up later on if you and she ! likes.it
have fun
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Amen, and jeez, c'mon already -- we're not talking about some weird species just because they're Thais, we're talking about women! If they're bleeding during anal sex you're doing something wrong! (And if the woman is bleeding she's probably the next one telling her friends what a negative experience it is.)
I swear, (and I'm sorry ChiMan II, as I'm not intending to pick on just you) sometimes posts here sound like they're coming from people who have never had sex in their entire lives.
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Chiman II,
I have a lot of anal sex with Thai girls. I try to only take girls that will provide this service. In my experience they rarely bleed if you use lots of KY. The few occasions that I noticed bleeding or a bit of uncleanliness were usually when I got extremely deep and rough. But then again plenty of girls can take this and there's nothing but KY to be seen. Another poster made the point that there's no big physical difference between Thais and other women. Just like everywhere, most won't do it, and out of the few that do, only a minority can really take it the way it was meant to be done.
More apropos the 'safe sex in Thailand' angle - I admit that as a confirmed barebacker the bleeding issue is one of concern. Personally in the 90% of cases where there's no bleeding at all I consider anal sex with copious amounts of KY to be safer than vaginal - none of her juices involved.
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Hi Joe,
It is not uncommon at all for women to bleed during anal sex. I had two girlfriends that had this problem when we tried it. I haven't had alot of girls that were up for this so maybe I am wrong? I am still researching. ha ha
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ChiMan II
I am with Joe Zop, if the girl declines, DO NOT try to force her. DO NOT try to do it if she is not relaxed. And again, soft, slow and lots of KY jelly.
I am also Opebo, I can hardly remember any case when a girl was bleeding. Give her time to relax and everything will be fine. Take your time, no need to rush.
Have fun
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Maybe it's the approach, Opebo and ChiMan, but I've had a fair amount of anal, and I've absolutely never had a woman bleed from it. I don't tend to be rough at all, (though with some women who are relaxed and experienced going deep and hard is fine) since I'm well aware it can cause damage and I've no desire to do that to someone who's giving me something so many others decline to do. I don't simply cornhole a woman who's willing but inexperienced without a substantial amount of preparation. Not to mention the fact that causing bleeding means everything goes up on the safe sex risk-meter.
Opebo, sorry, but you're in fool's paradise if you're going bareback anal, which I'm sure you really know and obviously just don't much care about. (The good old "can't happen to me" syndrome.) There's absolutely no evidence I'm aware of that "copious amounts of KY" does anything to prevent infection other than cutting down on bleeding -- sacrificing a chicken probably has about the same preventive effect in terms of keeping infection from entering via the tip of your cock when your partner is bleeding despite the lube. The woman's secretions have nothing to do with it when you're talking HIV: it's about the blood, and that 10% of the time, according to your own estimate, that there's bleeding, is simply exposure-city for you. Do us all a favor and post pics of the girls you're having bareback anal with, so we can avoid them.
FWIW, I tend to like Astrolube rather than KY, as I find it both more slippery, easier to apply, and more dependable. It is also simply handy to have around for regular sex.
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Hi Guys,
I just had to jump in on this safe anal sex and bleeding discussion.
There is no safe unprotected anal sex. Period. Regardless of how much lubrication you use there is going to be some bleeding in almost 100% of all cases.
The anus is lined with extremely delicate blood vessels. Even the slightest penetration will cause these to break. You may not notice any blood but trust me there will be small microscopic tears in the anal lining which make a perfect conduit for transmitting the virus. This is why the virus spread so fast through the gay community.
Opebo, Can I possibly interest you in a safer hobby, say perhaps Russian Roulette with only a couple of bullets in the chamber? Get real dude. Most 5-year-olds in the year 2003 know that unprotected anal sex with a Thai hooker is attempted suicide. But hey, I'm not here to preach, just inform.
Live Long and Prosper,
Civ2000
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I'll like to second (or third) the comments about lubrication and going real slow to start, especially with a girl who is new at it.
A sure way of making it certain that the girl does not get into anal is to make it hurt.
To me, nothing is better than a chick who 'enjoys' anal (yes, they are out there!).
Vaginal lining = very thick = less tears
anal lining = very thin = frequent tears
You don't have see blood to be exposed
Having said all this:
How do you "find and confirm" ( or ask) whether the girl will do anal (other than that infamous yellow line):
BJ = smoke
BBBJ = ??
Anal = ??
CIM = ??
Can these be had from any of the go gos or bars? Any differences between BKK and Pattaya with regards to above services?
JZ,
Please check your PM.
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Joe Zop, Civ2000,
You're quite wrong about anal being riskier than vaginal for the penetrator. The higher risk is for the receptive partner. Hiv is found in vaginal secretions as well as blood and semen. Its also worth remembering that in most hiv positive people - those who are in the long 'dormant' stage between initial infection and aids - have very low levels of hiv in any of these bodily fluids.
As for the KY issue - I'm only going by a spate of news articles I read a few months ago about studies showing that KY and the like 'killed hiv'. The studies suggested that water-based lubricatants were an environment that was not easy for hiv to live in or pass through.
Lastly, circumsizion makes one much less pervious to hiv infection. Considering all these factors, I'm not in the least worried.
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I have 2 questions I hope someone can answer.
1. Is there a HIV test kit sold in Bangkok that gives results in 30 minutes or is that a bad rumor.
2. Can anyone recommoned a good STD clinic in Bangkok what are the prices for tests.
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Opebo,
"The studies suggested that water-based lubricatants were an environment that was not easy for hiv to live in or pass through."
This seems a bit odd to me. The human body is about 80% water and HIV loves it...
Everybody just rubber up, ok?