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Best FKK in Europe
I have a proposal for the guys that want a diversion from talking about girls. There are almost 20-50 new posts about FKK women and there is plenty of info. I propose a survey of purely facilities.
What is the best club in Europe for facilities? The general objective criteria would be as follows:
A) Entry price: 3 points. (expensive (75E) gets 1 and inexpensive (40 E) gets 3.
B) robes / towels: 1 or 0.
C) Lockers and showers: 1 or 0.
D) Food: 3 points (good, Ok and bad)
E) Price per 30 min: 3 points: less than 50 is 3, more than 60 is 1.
F) out door area and out door pool 1 or 0.
G) Steam room and sauna: 1 or 0.
H) good professional massage: 1 or 0.
I) easy to find rooms during peak hour: 1 or 0.
J) Number of girls: 3 points. 50 to 60 gets 2 points.
K) Alcohol in the bar: 1 or 0.
L) Easy to get to with public transport: 1 or 0.
In my book, GT in Vienna gets:
A) 1.
1.
1.
D) 2.
2.
1.
1.
H) 0.
1.
2.
1.
L) 1.
That is 14 out of 20 points and that is my fav FKK. Would love to see others pitch in.
Thank you.
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Palace would score 13 points. Oase only 12. World also 12. Still I prefer the two over Palace.
HB
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[QUOTE=Ilink;1268363]I am glad to see that there are members who admit feel they may be addicted. However we are lucky to have to have a forum here like AA where we can bare our breasts and recount our experiences as a therapy for perhaps a cure.[/QUOTE]Who says I'm looking for a cure? .
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[QUOTE=Vitrea; 1268882]I have a proposal for the guys that want a diversion from talking about girls. There are almost 20-50 new posts about FKK women and there is plenty of info. I propose a survey of purely facilities. In my book, GT in Vienna gets:
That is 14 out of 20 points and that is my fav FKK. Would love to see others pitch in.
Thank you.[/QUOTE]I think Sharks would have to rate 16 with this questionnaire.
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[QUOTE=Hessen Bub; 1268901]Palace would score 13 points. Oase only 12. World also 12. Still I prefer the two over Palace.
HB[/QUOTE]Are you saying that you prefer Oase and World over Palace as an FKK, or strictly in rating the building and facilities?
I've never been to World (yet) , but for me it is a tough toss up between Palace and Oase on facilities. Oase definitely slam dunks on the outdoor area and saunas.
But as for showers, bar, food, cleanliness. Definitely goes to Palace.
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[QUOTE=Hessen Bub; 1268901]Palace would score 13 points. Oase only 12. World also 12. Still I prefer the two over Palace.
HB[/QUOTE]I think you're lowballing it a bit. I honestly am not sure how some of the criteria are meant: should we evaluate the quality of lockers / showers, or just whether it is present (same with welness). It is also clear that these criteria are made by an 'overpaying' Hessen / Berlin / anywhere but NRW visitor. All clubs in NRW are considered 'cheap', while you can get into Aca for 25 against 60 for GT / LR / VV / PHG; 50 should have been the 'normal rate'. The availability of alcohol is also a bit of non-issue, while free beer in many NRW clubs against the 10 euro beer in Oase would be a much more interesting point. Given the 75 an hour that is still the norm in most of NRW, all clubs also should be considered 'cheap'. While there are still differences with Heaven7 (and Blue Note I think) asking 30 for half an hour, aca 40 for each half an hour, LR and PHG still having thriving 50-25-25 possibilities, etc. Nonetheles I made a short list; nothing better to do in the weekend where most of our Romanian schatzis are celebrating some longhaired hippy's indecisiveness about dying a good 2000 years ago.
Being not too stingy with the marks I come to the following list of clubs I've been to somewhat recently:
Golden Time (Brueggen) : 17.
Ying Yang (Roermond) : 16.
Acapulco: 16.
Palace: 15.
World: 14.
Livingroom: 14.
Parksauna Residenz: 13.
Samya: 13.
Oase: 13.
Freude: 12.
My favorite clubs BTW: Freude and Oase; I don't like GT and YY at all.
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A 40 point scale
First thing we all look at when we walk in the club isn't how hot the sauna is, we want to know the strength of the lineup. So a majority of the vote should be based on what we first look for at the clubs, the women. The number and quality of the ladies are important and how they interact with the guests. Interaction covers everything from service in the room, how they approach you in the club, their attitude at the lockers waiting for their pay.
20 points to the Women (10 for the quality. 5 for the quantity. 5 for attitude / service)
Facilities are the next thing we notice. The condition of the club, the layout, the extra's a club has to offer. The overall comfort a club has to offer. The longer that you are comfortable staying at a club should play a role in how many points you give for any club.
10 points for the facilities that include everything from the setup, the food and the length of time your comforable in the club.
Pricing is the last rating. How much do you have to pay the club and the girls. We shall leave 'transportation costs' out of the equation, how hard it is to get your ass to the club has no reflection on what clubs are "the best fkk clubs". Pricing is strictly a rating on the costs of 'doing business'. Since the clubs have 'control' over what the women charge and how much we pay to enter, we shall lump the two of them together.
10 points towards the costs associated with entering the club and the payment fee's of the women.
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My ratings:
World: 18 for the women. 9 for the club. 7 for the pricing. Total of 34 out of 40. Higher marks on pricing due to VIP cards. 3 for 2 days.
Aca: 18 for the women. 5 for the club. 10 for the pricing. Total of 33 out of 40.
YingYang: 6 for the women. 6 for the club. 7 for the pricing. Total of 19. The food and the lineup suck.
Oase: 19 for the women. 8 for the club. 6 for the pricing. Score of 33.
Palace: 14 for the women. 6 for the club (no outdoors) .4 for the pricing. 24 total.
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[QUOTE=Breadman; 1269160]My ratings:
World: 18 for the women. 9 for the club. 7 for the pricing. Total of 34 out of 40. Higher marks on pricing due to VIP cards. 3 for 2 days.
Aca: 18 for the women. 5 for the club. 10 for the pricing. Total of 33 out of 40.
YingYang: 6 for the women. 6 for the club. 7 for the pricing. Total of 19. The food and the lineup suck.
Oase: 19 for the women. 8 for the club. 6 for the pricing. Score of 33.
Palace: 14 for the women. 6 for the club (no outdoors).4 for the pricing. 24 total.[/QUOTE]An interesting, if not rather ingenius summary of club ratings. I agree with you main premise, namely: the girls are the main thing I look at in deciding which club to visit.
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Ratings?
I thought we weren't doing ratings again (met last time with a bunch of "oh no not again!"). Anyway, where is Artemis in all of this? If we're looking at all of Germany, then surely Artemis must be in the discussion somewhere. I've seen no mention of Artemis. Golden Time has the weakest facilities of all of the clubs I have been to so far. That's an easy one for me when it comes to the least impressive facility. But then after that, there are just so many trade-offs between the others. I've always said I would like to outfit World with the furnishings of Palace, then populate the place with the girls of Oase LOL.
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Can't take the credit
[QUOTE=Ortos; 1269165]An interesting, if not rather ingenius summary of club ratings. I agree with you main premise, namely: the girls are the main thing I look at in deciding which club to visit.
O[/QUOTE]I just got done watching an episode of 'Iron Chef' when I read Vitrea's post. That show gives points towards plating, presentation and taste, not sure how you'd judge a club or a girl on plating. And I'm pretty sure when the judge's tried their food, none of them would say "I love this but I'm going to take points away since it was hard for me to get here using public transportation".
Just hope the main ingredient isn't fish.
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[QUOTE=Breadman; 1269154]First thing we all look at when we walk in the club isn't how hot the sauna is, we want to know the strength of the lineup. So a majority of the vote should be based on what we first look for at the clubs, the women. The number and quality of the ladies are important and how they interact with the guests. Interaction covers everything from service in the room, how they approach you in the club, their attitude at the lockers waiting for their pay.
20 points to the Women (10 for the quality. 5 for the quantity. 5 for attitude / service).[/QUOTE]I understand what you are saying. But it kind of goes against the point of what Vitrea was trying to do.
[QUOTE=Vitrea; 1268882]. I propose a survey of purely facilities.
What is the best club in Europe for facilities?[/QUOTE]Rating women is an almost impossible task. Everyone has different preferences; not just in looks but in style of service. Do you like bundaos or bundinhas? Do you like your BJ's with vacuum preasure, or sloppy and wet? Your 10 could be my 2.
You could rate the quantity and variety but the rest of what you suggest is not going to be accurate fo rthe group as a whole.
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[QUOTE=The Cane;1269169]I thought we weren't doing ratings again (met last time with a bunch of "oh no not again!"). Anyway, where is Artemis in all of this? If we're looking at all of Germany, then surely Artemis must be in the discussion somewhere. I've seen no mention of Artemis. Golden Time has the weakest facilities of all of the clubs I have been to so far. That's an easy one for me when it comes to the least impressive facility. But then after that, there are just so many trade-offs between the others. I've always said I would like to outfit World with the furnishings of Palace, then populate the place with the girls of Oase LOL.[/QUOTE][font=tahoma]Yeah [b]The Cane[/b], got to agree that the ratings game is never going to produce a definitive "best FKK club" because we all have different tastes and requirements. For instance to demonstrate a different opinion to that of your good self, I certainly would not change the furnishings / decor in [b]World[/b] for that in [b]Palace[/b], much less would I change the current line-up in [b]World[/b] (imo best lineup in Hessen at the moment provided you like Romanian hoochies) for that in [b]Oase[/b]. But saying that I do catch your drift, understand what you mean! Lets cut to the chase, some (like me) don't need 60 stunners in a club. 20 is plenty and probably 5 favorites is more than enough. Yeah facilities / food are important, specially if you plan on hanging out for many hours. Also some of us with Celtic blood do like a drink and a well stocked bar with reasonable prices is a definite and very big plus point. So clubs like Oase and Palace will never feature very high in my best club list (although many will disagree I'm sure and perhaps Oase will improve after the construction work is completed) but places like World and Villa Vertigo will be up there somewhere near the top. I guess we all rate clubs differently and have different requirements. So hard for me to take the ratings game all that seriously, but if you want to play that sport, I guess no harm in innocent fun!
[b]CD[/b]
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[QUOTE=Free Dude;1269010]I think you're lowballing it a bit. I honestly am not sure how some of the criteria are meant: should we evaluate the quality of lockers / showers, or just whether it is present (same with welness). It is also clear that these criteria are made by an 'overpaying' Hessen / Berlin / anywhere but NRW visitor. All clubs in NRW are considered 'cheap', while you can get into Aca for 25 against 60 for GT / LR / VV / PHG; 50 should have been the 'normal rate'. The availability of alcohol is also a bit of non-issue, while free beer in many NRW clubs against the 10 euro beer in Oase would be a much more interesting point. Given the 75 an hour that is still the norm in most of NRW, all clubs also should be considered 'cheap'. While there are still differences with Heaven7 (and Blue Note I think) asking 30 for half an hour, aca 40 for each half an hour, LR and PHG still having thriving 50-25-25 possibilities, etc. Nonetheles I made a short list; nothing better to do in the weekend where most of our Romanian schatzis are celebrating some longhaired hippy's indecisiveness about dying a good 2000 years ago.[/QUOTE]You are correct. I came up with the criteria based on my experiences but I agree, they can be improved upon. I was hoping people would rate FKKs from Austira and Switzerland too hence I chose that range for prices. In the global sense, the pricing at NRW would be considered inexpensive. I have been there and l like them and will be there soon.
Very interesting responses though. Thank you for indulging. I think it does give a general perspective of the over all quality of the facilities, which I think are important if you are going to spend several days in different FKKs.
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[QUOTE=Captain Dan; 1269250][font=tahoma]Yeah [b]The Cane[/b], got to agree that the ratings game is never going to produce a definitive "best FKK club" because we all have different tastes and requirements. For instance to demonstrate a different opinion to that of your good self, I certainly would not change the furnishings / decor in [b]World[/b] For that in [b]Palace[/b], much less would I change the current line-up in [b]World[/b] (imo best lineup in Hessen at the moment provided you like Romanian hoochies) for that in [b]Oase[/b]. But saying that I do catch your drift, understand what you mean! Lets cut to the chase, some (like me) don't need 60 stunners in a club. 20 is plenty and probably 5 favorites is more than enough. Yeah facilities / food are important, specially if you plan on hanging out for many hours. Also some of us with Celtic blood do like a drink and a well stocked bar with reasonable prices is a definite and very big plus point. So clubs like Oase and Palace will never feature very high in my best club list (although many will disagree I'm sure and perhaps Oase will improve after the construction work is completed) but places like World and Villa Vertigo will be up there somewhere near the top. I guess we all rate clubs differently and have different requirements. So hard for me to take the ratings game all that seriously, but if you want to play that sport, I guess no harm in innocent fun!
[b]CD[/b]
[/font][/QUOTE]Captain Dan hit the nail on the head. My thoughts exactly.
Cane, I am sorry if ratings are prohibited. I thought it makes sense to discuss ratings in the "lounge" section as discussions here would not interfere with talk about girls.