[QUOTE=Reiner Otto;1551730]about increased documents control around Maidan, which might include Vodka Bar. Can a local confirm this?[/QUOTE][url]Http://kiev.segodnya.ua/kpeople/na-maydane-v-kieve-ustanovili-komendantskiy-chas-510402.html[/url]
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[QUOTE=Reiner Otto;1551730]about increased documents control around Maidan, which might include Vodka Bar. Can a local confirm this?[/QUOTE][url]Http://kiev.segodnya.ua/kpeople/na-maydane-v-kieve-ustanovili-komendantskiy-chas-510402.html[/url]
I'm going in a few days to Kiev and want to check for some nice company already in advance. Is there any good site beside mamba. Ru for this?
In "professional" ads there is just contact via phone possible and no email or chat contact before.
What about changing money right now? On Airport I assume they will have bad rate, so better fetch money from ATM or Bank or take enough Euro with me to change there?
Many thanks already and of course there will come a report when I'm successful with nice girls.
[QUOTE=Root66;1551807]On Airport I assume they will have bad rate,[/QUOTE]Just change a few $/Euro to cover the trip to the city and some beer.
I would suggest some more cash as usual to take, besides CC, because of political reasons there MIGHT be problems again picking money from the ATMs.
[QUOTE=LilJoey; 1549660]It seems no amount of explanation and good sense can penetrate your cloud. And guys like CB who second you on a point that was never in debate, have missed the point.
It is not in question that the average of all salaries and wages in Kiev city is higher than the rest of Ukraine's cities and oblasts / districts. I have never written otherwise. If you wish to pretend that I am disputing that fact, and posture yourself as if you are correct on this point versus what I have written, you may mislead fellows like CB and others, who haven't read carefully. But it does little to further the advice needed to be given about how much money is reasonable to offer a studenka for a sponsorship support arrangement. So you continue to becloud this issue with your mistaken input.
What I have tried to explain previously is a simple point, which you or anyone else should be able to understand...[/QUOTE]Liljoy,
Some folks on this board seem not to be able to follow your simple argument, and I would recommend you not to waist much more of your time.
[QUOTE=Sorbonne; 1551984]Liljoy,
Some folks on this board seem not to be able to follow your simple argument, and I would recommend you not to waist much more of your time.[/QUOTE]I had already decided the same. I wasn't actually writing for those who weren't listening or reading carefully, or making smug comments that they can afford to ignore my advice. That is to their own peril anyway. My intent was to clarify things for the general readership which does read and benefit from cogent advice, and is generally interested in things like how much is proper to offer a studentka for sponsorship. It's something that comes up for mongers in Kiev. I have written enough on the topic. So there is enough there in the thread so that a careful reader will not get misdirected by all the talk about Kiev having higher income jobs in sectors of the job market that have nothing to do with studentkas' employment options. But thanks for your advice. I sometimes feel compelled to write when it's to correct clearly wrong advice posted on the thread. Why do I care?
[QUOTE=CanadianBoy; 1550840]Woke up this morning to a beautiful day here in Kyiv. Hoped the metro to the center, exchanged a large amount of American currency into UAH and took a leisurely walk around Kreshchatyk and Globus Mall. Lots of lovely ladies walking around, gentleman.
I sent a SMS to Olga (the River Palace contact I still have) asking if she was up for an afternoon fuck but she told me she wouldn't be done work until 18:00 but could we meet afterwards? I told her I had dinner plans with friends (in truth a feebie I am chasing). While I've been concentrating my time and efforts on chasing the many feebies available to a gainfully employed man living fulltime in Kyiv, Olga is very sexy and someone I thoroughly enjoy fucking...[/QUOTE]CanadianBoy, this is a truly inspiring story! Well done, sir!
I have had a few cases of potential freebies where I thought this might be possible, and your story has given me added impetus to try. Will report back to the forum on how it went!
[QUOTE=Manny51; 1551208]Great story! Fortune has smiled on you my friend. She is a knockout.
In fact, your story makes me want to visit Kiev now. I have some free time in about 6 weeks. Is it safe to visit now? What's it like? I figure that exchange rate-wise, there is no better time than now.[/QUOTE]Manny, CB's stories reflect the fact that he, like Irish or myself and a few others in the forum, are long-term residents here. We have the opportunity to play the long game. We are not here for a weekend, or a week or two as 99. 9% of the guys who read the forum mostly do. You and they come here and you must then try and make each and every moment or meeting count, be it with freebies or paid pros. We can and do meet all sorts of girls in a variety of social settings and circumstances just like you do at home. Additionally, if you speak Russian and / or Ukrainian, now your world of opportunity expands to every available girl in the city or the region.
I do serial dating and meet women in lots of ways locally, through work, friends, chance meetings etc. I also indulge with the ladies on mamba and also with the pros. Some hook-ups have not been great but since I am here, I just chalk it up to a bad connection and move on, losing nothing, gaining experience and knowledge. For me, though, most experiences over the years have been either mostly good and satisfying with a smaller number truly memorable.
If you think that such opportunities will come your way in a short visit, you will most likely be most disappointed. You need to either have great game, and it is only the rare guy who does have it, or you will need to work at it very very hard with time and opportunity here definitely not in your favor with a short-term stay if you are looking to score a la CB. Lots of work with mamba and encounters in the bars and the clubs will give you your best chances for scoring.
So far it is safe here in Kiev but I do suggest that you stay away from the Maidan area at night. Given the latest events in the east of Ukraine and the explosive political passions, what the situation will be here in six weeks' time is impossible to say. That is also about the time the presidential elections are to be held, perhaps, on May 25. As for me, I have scheduled a 10-day holiday with my current favorite to Spain at that time.
I check out Mamba usually once every week or two. Here's a woman who has been sending me messages ad nauseam. She is looking for a sponsor. I asked how much she wanted for a few hours at my flat and she replied "100?" In my opinion she is not worth one hundred (a terrible thing to say about a human being, I know). Speaks English. She was extremely eager to meet immediately so I am sure she's wiling to drop her price. I've got enough on my plate, so have at 'er boys.
[url]http://www.mamba.ru/mb1099953708?hit=3[/url]
[QUOTE=Uke Boy; 1552142]Manny, CB's stories reflect the fact that he, like Irish or myself and a few others in the forum, are long-term residents here. We have the opportunity to play the long game. We are not here for a weekend, or a week or two as 99. 9% of the guys who read the forum mostly do. You and they come here and you must then try and make each and every moment or meeting count, be it with freebies or paid pros. We can and do meet all sorts of girls in a variety of social settings and circumstances just like you do at home. Additionally, if you speak Russian and / or Ukrainian, now your world of opportunity expands to every available girl in the city or the region.
I do serial dating and meet women in lots of ways locally, through work, friends, chance meetings etc. I also indulge with the ladies on mamba and also with the pros. Some hook-ups have not been great but since I am here, I just chalk it up to a bad connection and move on, losing nothing, gaining experience and knowledge. For me, though, most experiences over the years have been either mostly good and satisfying with a smaller number truly memorable.
If you think that such opportunities will come your way in a short visit, you will most likely be most disappointed. You need to either have great game, and it is only the rare guy who does have it, or you will need to work at it very very hard with time and opportunity here definitely not in your favor with a short-term stay if you are looking to score a la CB. Lots of work with mamba and encounters in the bars and the clubs will give you your best chances for scoring.
So far it is safe here in Kiev but I do suggest that you stay away from the Maidan area at night. Given the latest events in the east of Ukraine and the explosive political passions, what the situation will be here in six weeks' time is impossible to say. That is also about the time the presidential elections are to be held, perhaps, on May 25. As for me, I have scheduled a 10-day holiday with my current favorite to Spain at that time.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the tip. I suspected as much. In fact, I worried that desperate times would make people more desperate, encouraging scams and even darker stuff, so I decided to trip somewhere else. But its a fun success story nonetheless.
Do continue to post more pictures though. Ukranian women, along with Japanese, are the most beautiful women in the world.
Question to the members living locally:
Is there any swinger club in Kiev?
Spasibo
[QUOTE=CanadianBoy; 1550840]Woke up this morning to a beautiful day here in Kyiv. Hoped the metro to the center, exchanged a large amount of American currency into UAH and took a leisurely walk around Kreshchatyk and Globus Mall. Lots of lovely ladies walking around, gentleman.
I sent a SMS to Olga (the River Palace contact I still have) asking if she was up for an afternoon fuck but she told me she wouldn't be done work until 18:00 but could we meet afterwards? I told her I had dinner plans with friends (in truth a feebie I am chasing). While I've been concentrating my time and efforts on chasing the many feebies available to a gainfully employed man living fulltime in Kyiv, Olga is very sexy and someone I thoroughly enjoy fucking.
It was shortly afterwards, while I was wandering around Maidan, that I received a SMS from Yana. Yana is an early twenties woman I met for dinner back in November. At the time I was too busy with work to chase anymore than one or two freebies, so despite our pleasant dinner together and her obvious interest, I decided to pursue someone else. However, we stayed in touch on Facebook and even promised to meet again sometime. Anyway, with the economic and political instability in Ukraine now, the company she works for has cut down on her hours and she was obviously stressed about it. She was telling me that she wasn't sure how she was going to pay rent next month. I grabbed the opportunity and made a playful remark that I was single and would gladly help with her expenses in exchange for her time. At first she waivered and insisted she was not a prostitute. I told her that of course she wasn't but that we are both adults and why not have some fun together? She said she thought I was handsome, hadn't had sex for nearly 8 months and would certainly think it over.
As I was having dinner with Tanya, the freebie I am chasing, I got a message from Yana saying she would come over to my flat later to talk. Soon afterwards, I gave Tanya a long kiss goodnight and hoped the metro back to my flat. The fact that Yana was not the kind of woman who would normally give sex for money really turned me on. So much so that I did not respond to Olga when she asked again if I wanted to meet tonight.
Yana showed up looking good and after a few drinks I started to kiss her hand and lips. Well, she just left 45 minutes ago after two hours of terrific fucking. The best part was watching those large, perky tits bounce up and down as she rode me. Yana is a warm woman with a playful attitude in bed. I gave her 1000 UAH (91 USD) for her time and told her we could meet again soon, if she wanted. She agreed but made me promise I would not tell anyone about our arrangement.[/QUOTE]Hello, could you please let me know her details? Phone number etc?
[QUOTE=Irish Lad;1551060]Categorizing girls in Kiev as pro, semi-pro and freebies is not reflective on the situation here. The range spans from very innocent and pure girls who would never consider meeting a man for money through possibly 20 levels of sponsorship all the way up to the hard core pros. However, even within those subcategories will be variations, depending on who you are and how they feel at the time.[/QUOTE]I love this description of the subtle gradations between "freebie" and "pro"!
It makes it a challenge to negotiate or navigate through the maze of a dyev's self-perception and self-deception.
Offer some girls money and get "I am not a prostitute (at least, not for such small money)!"
Offer her a trip to Paris and get "It has always been my dream, of course I will go with you."
[QUOTE=CanadianBoy; 1551177]As usual, Uke Boy is offering some useful advice. If you are coming to Kyiv you should bring as much Western currency as possible. The economic (not to mention the political) situation here is in dramatic flux. No telling what will happen tomorrow let alone next week.
About currency exchange rates, they might be at 1 USD for 11. 60 UAH on the internet, but not on the streets of Kyiv. I was on and around Kreshchatyk all afternoon today. The highest I saw was 1 USD for 11. 25 UAH (private exchange booths) while the lowest was an inexplicable 1 USD for 10. 90 UAH (banks). I find the exchange rate here is often sluggish to keep up with the rates posted on internet sites. I've also read reports on the internet by Ukrainian economists that the UAH with hover around 10 UAH to the dollar this year. It has already jumped from 8 to 10 and then quickly back to 9 in late February / early March. Who really know how far the UAH will drop before it rises again.
As for ATM's, there was a run on withdrawing UAH in mid to late February during the height of the fighting which forced banks to place withdrawal restrictions on customers. However, that does not seem to be the case in Kyiv now. I withdrew 6000 UAH just an hour ago with no problem. I watched the man ahead of me withdraw around 2000 UAH with no difficulty. This was done at a very busy 'Agricola' bank at the base of my apartment outside of the city center. This is just my experiences in Kyiv, for what it is worth.[/QUOTE]Hello, I was in Kiev last February and due to the barricades all this area was closed. How is it today with the summer starting? Is open and free now and the girls again walking there looking for customers? Thanks for updated information
[QUOTE=Sponsor74;1554153]Hello, I was in Kiev last February and due to the barricades all this area was closed. How is it today with the summer starting? Is open and free now and the girls again walking there looking for customers? Thanks for updated information[/QUOTE]I haven't been around the McDonalds area of Maidan since November so I don't know who is hanging around there right now. I was in and around Maidan Friday for a while and I can tell you the majority of the barricades are still there but the atmosphere is quite relaxed, especially compared to last February. Other than some very strange characters wandering about, not much was happening. To be honest, I'm not even sure the McDonalds has reopened, although I would wager it probably has. I will be down there this week and if so I will check it out.
Regardless, I was at the Shuliavska metro station yesterday evening waiting for a friend of mine to go to dinner and you should've seen all the lovely university students heading down to take the metro. Tons of them in tight jeans and heels (still too cold for short skirts) heading towards the center.
Any advice on special things to pick up at Duty Free on the way into Ukraine?
Like are there items that are currently unavailable in Kiev, or outrageously priced?
Is there a perfume brand with universal appeal to dyevs?
I don't buy perfumes in real life, so am kind of clueless about this.
Any suggestions for generic gifts, if I am dating numerous girls and am not getting their perfume preferences in advance?