Thanks for the heads up Uncle Jack
Great reports Jack. I have thought of doing exactly what you are doing and plan my first trip to Colombia this year.
I have known hundreds of visiting Colombian SW in St Maarten in the last 3 years. Even the hardest pros among them have a soft side if you treat them with respect and tenderness. And the typical girl can be amazingly sweet.
But I can tell you, they are just like everyone in the world. When they have a few bad experiences with guys from a certain group, they stereotype that group and they stop giving good service to those guys, or charge them more money. Even to guys who are "innocent" but just look like the scum. And I have seen plenty of visiting Gringos disrespecting the girls here, although moist are respectful and so far the few sum have not created a bad reputation for Gringos (mainly because the local guys are much worse on average).
Jack mentioned that he keeps a low profile in Medellin. This seems like a good idea. I have worried about the same thing. If you are generous in Colombia, how do you avoid coming to the attention of dangerous low life's?
Thanks for adding life to the Medellin thread and sparking a really good discussion.
Zing
Respect? Not for you, Uncle Jack
Initially I was reading Uncle Jack's memoires with certain amount curiocity, but it has turned to pure repugnancy. Certain things he wrote have struck a nerve like nothing else I've read on this site so far.
I'd really like to write line-by-line response, but it's going to take time and I'm afraid it's going to be uninformative and extremely antagonistic. This is the short version, and if Jackson allows it to be posted, I just might do a full version later on.
This insight into Uncle Jack's life is what really made me mad:
[QUOTE=Uncle Jack]I will tell about one ghetto girl that was really special. About two months ago someone who knows me found a genuine sweetheart in a strata two area. The guy who found her said she had just turned 18, was absolutely beautiful but dirt poor. I have several people who look for these types of girls for me all over Medellin. [/QUOTE]So, Uncle, you have some guys that scout barrios for fresh, uninitiated meat, just old enough for you not to go to jail, with the sole purpose to please you? The University-type girls don't satisfy you anymore?
[QUOTE=Uncle Jack]This girl was told she would get 150, 000 pesos an hour and was very happy with that amount. When I saw her I was shocked at how genuinely beautiful she is. What was nicer though is she treated me with kindness. After sex she held my hand and talked about her life. She said that she wanted to go to school and study tourism. I really thought she was sweet.
If she did a "fuck and run" she would have got the 150, 000 pesos we had agreed on. However, since she made me smile I put a million pesos in an envelope and put it in her purse as she was leaving. She said thanks and left.
The most amazing thing happened about 5 minutes later which is why I am telling this story. She actually came back with the envelope to tell me I made a mistake. She thought I had handed her the wrong envelope and did not want me to think she had stole from me. I gave her another million for her honesty. [/QUOTE]She was "very happy" with COP 150k? She didn't really knew the going rate, did she? Were you her first trick, or just her first "gringo? " Or maybe yours was her first "dick" she's ever had? Was she a virgin? Was that the reason you were so generous?
And so you gave her "another million for her honesty".another proof that she was a "virgin" in the "business. " Do you really think your COP $2million (US $1100) will keep her off the streets? For how long? It's not enough to move out of the barrio, or to learn a trade, or to go to university.
The best part, however, is this:
[QUOTE=Uncle Jack]I told her then and there to never sell herself to any gringo except me. I told her when she needs money to think of me. She is a poor girl that very much could have ended up on the streets. The idea of some scumbag gringo corrupting her by trying to offer her 50, 000 pesos makes me sick. [/QUOTE]First, you acknowledge that you're a selfish person that you are (in my opinion of course) and basically want to add this chica to your harem, but without any explicit promise to really help her to CHANGE her life. Then you have the cojones (I've got to give you that) to go on a rant about another gringo "corrupting her by rying to offer her 50,000"? Do you even realize that you've already done the "corrupting" part? Do you realize that YOU are the scumbag that you so much despise? Again, you took a poor (maybe desperate), naive, 18yr old chica and made her a (pick one) puta/prepago. You think not? If her family finds out, chances are she will be called a "puta" no matter what you think. Even if you think you've done an honorable thing by "helping" her. The reality is that you didn't.
[QUOTE=Uncle Jack]So she goes home thinking that gringos are nice generous people. Unfortunately if she does seek out gringos then she is going to run into some of the clowns I saw at the restaurant. She may very well have sex with some of these scumbags for 50, 000. If that happens she will quickly change and her opinion of gringos will be that they are all like the scum that is showing up these days in Medellin. She will then become a "fuck and run" girl who takes what she can. [/QUOTE]And you will lose a chance to bang another naive chica that ganuinely worships you? Can't you just pay her and send he on her way? What did you do (other than paying her) to deserve her worship?
Uncle Jack, this girl will become what you've helped her to become.
If you're so worried, put her on your payroll. Or marry her.
One more point: because someone offers $50K for a "short time", he's a scumbag? Your "$2k girls" on average get COP $120 000 per day, is it so much money? By your own admission, upper-class model types get a lot more from Colomban sugar daddies. The girls who work in Panama and Caribbean islands earn a lot more per month than that. And, when in Colombia, they won't be seen with gringos just like 2 university p***as that you're sponsoring. And they are INDEPENDENT. And unlike your p***s, they don't buy Gucci and Prada, they have to support their families and their children. They are not upper class university wh**es who need more more more more, just like so despised by you USA women, but they're still loving and grateful. You can easily have a "prepago" in the States. What? You call them gold-diggers?
[QUOTE=Uncle Jack]You guys think you are better then these people because you have a little more money than they do. [/QUOTE]It's your assumption. I can tell you that you are mostly wrong.
[QUOTE=Uncle Jack]These girls are better than you. You are the bottom of the barrel and a complete disgrace to humanity. In short: You have no character. And keep that in mind because some of us have big feet. [/QUOTE]What about yourself? I think that the 18-year old girl that you "initiated" with the promise of COP $150k, the one who brought back 1million, is better than you as well!
And what's that about "big feet? " Please forgive me, English is not my 1st language, and I don't understand the meaning of this expression. Is it by any chance a threat?
[QUOTE=Uncle Jack]I am going to get off my soapbox now. I do not think I will be making many more posts on this site but I will read it. The problem is I have arthritis and cannot type very much. My $2000 a month girl is coming over now. She wants to cook up some cookies for me. Bye guys. [/QUOTE]If you have a "heart of gold", and really want "to make a diference", why don't you buy a computer for that poor 18-yr old girl from the barrio, send her to computer courses where she'll learn the basics, and then ask her to type for you? I'm sure she'll be more than happy to take a break from f***ing you and making cookies and practice a skill.
In summary:
1. The sole purpose of Uncle Jack's rant is not to provide info, but to justify his selfish reasons for not wanting gringos in Colombia, and, perhaps, to justify his existence. It's so easy to say "you should respect the girls. " Do you think adding a COP1million adds to the respect? Not in my opinion.
2. It seems to me he thinks he's doing an honorable thing by "sponsoring" girls. However, he wants to have exclusive right to them, and all others, even those he's not paying them. Not becasue he's worried about them becoming p***as. Oh, noooo. His reason is that he doesn't want "a smoking gun" (a few rowdy gringos) to become a "mushroom cloud" (too many foreigners taking 1st stab at young fresh "meat") The p***s and prepagos are not your slaves, Jack, they deserve to have other means (even from other men) of supporting themselves. You may be rich, but you don't own them.
3. Becasue he's had a priviledged life and may have done some "charitable" deeds, he's better than the rest, and deserves more. Well, you are not charitable at all. It is called "quid pro quo": just like the rest of us you pay them for sex. And sex you get. It is not charity, it's paying for sex.
In my opinion, the charitable deeds that you may have done donot absolve you from what you're doing now.
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If I'm totally wrong, and that 18yr old girl and others that you've "sponsored" are hardcore and have been in the business long before you/your pimps found them. Well, I'll take relevant parts of my rant back. But you have to find cojones to tell the world that I am wrong.
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An interesting and relevant exchange takes place in the movie "Rosario Tijeras. " One plotline depicts a young, naive girl who for he 1st time goes to the VIP floor full of rich colombnians, gringos and "model-type" prepagos. This event changes her life. Near the end of the film, she goes to the apartment of the "wealthy colombian. " While kissing him, the following exchange takes place:
Rosario: you've always taken care of me. You've always treated me well and protected me
Sugar Daddy: Rosario, I want you for myself. Just for me
Rosario: Is there anyone who treats me better?
While still kissing him, she pums lead into his belly.
Uncle Jack, that 18-yr old girl may not have a gun, but make no mistake, if now she's kind and loving and naive as you claim she is, in a not so distant future she'll likely feel what is shown in the film. You said it yourself. Those girls are not stupid.