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Tue, Dec. 28, 2004
By TYLER BRIDGES
Miami Herald
LIMA, Peru - The men walked up and down the cement floor, the shy ones looking furtively, the bold ones casting an appraising eye at the women standing in the open doorways wearing nothing but bras, panties, high heel shoes and a beckoning smile.
Traffic on a recent Saturday night here at one of the two legal bordellos in metropolitan Lima was a fraction of the business 10 to 15 years ago, however, and that may hold an important lesson for authorities trying to move the city's thriving prostitution trade off the streets.
Cesar Gonzalez, mayor of the Lima neighborhood Lince, began calling two months ago for the creation of a "red zone" that would feature legal brothels, sex shops and porn theaters.
But the day after visiting the Trocadero bordello here, Gonzalez has discarded this idea for another.
"I learned that you can't do a red zone, it would fail," Gonzalez said in his office. "There was no one there last night. The men simply visit prostitutes in their neighborhoods. Why travel to a red zone when you've got what you need in your neighborhood?"
So Gonzalez has hit upon another solution that he hopes to sell to the other 41 mayors in Lima: Create legal brothels throughout the city in hotel-like buildings. The first floor would feature strip clubs where men could choose women who caught their fancy and then transact their business in upstairs rooms.
Gonzalez heard about the idea from a group of Spanish lawmakers from Catalonia and saw it in action firsthand in Barcelona.
"I'd like to convert some of the regular hotels into sex hotels with municipal licenses," he said. "Hotels would give greater security and stronger medical controls."
Asked why he has adopted the issue as a personal crusade, Gonzalez pointed to an oil painting in his office. "He's responsible," he said, pointing to a likeness of his grandfather, Juan Gonzalez.
As way of explanation, he handed a slim book with a green cover to a visitor: It was Juan Gonzalez's 1918 doctoral dissertation. The subject: Regulating Prostitution in Lima.
"The interest is genetic," Gonzalez said with a laugh.
But Gonzalez has a more practical reason for wanting to crack down on street prostitution: He has received about 3,000 signed requests that he address the problem in Lince, which has a population of 75,000.
Gonzalez is hardly alone. Just about every neighborhood mayor in this metropolis is facing similar complaints.
Lucio Campos, the mayor of another neighborhood, San Martin de Porres, has even offered a large undeveloped tract as a potential site for a red zone. He, Gonzalez and a third neighborhood mayor have formed a task force to study the proposal and report back to their colleagues.
Juan Gonzalez's doctoral dissertation reported that Lima had 4,000 prostitutes in 1918, at a time when the city's population was 150,000.
Today, Lima has 20,000 prostitutes - 30 percent of them are transvestites - among its 8 million inhabitants.
Many residents in lower income neighborhoods complain that they have to walk among the prostitutes and their would-be clients while shopping or on their way home from work.
For a time, Gonzalez had his police officers arrest the prostitutes in Lince and deposit them miles away on the beach. The women had to climb a steep dirt hill to get within hailing distance of a passing bus or taxi.
Their attorneys raised such a fuss that Gonzalez stopped. Now he has a special police unit called the "Panther Command" that swoops down on suspected *****houses. He said he discovered the locations by looking at classified sex ads in Lima's El Comercio newspaper until the prostitutes wised up to him and stopped advertising their addresses. The Panther Command now relies on tips.
The idea of creating sex hotels throughout Lima gets a favorable reaction from the madam of the Little Boat bordello, which adjoins Trocadero and a third brothel, Wild, in a windowless two-story building in Lima's port city, Callao.
"The `johns' like to stop by after work," she said in the Little Boat's lounge as men on the prowl walked by. "They are tired, they want to be distracted. They don't want sex immediately. They want to sit down, have a drink, watch a bit of TV and then look for a girl."
The madam said street walkers turn tricks for as low as six soles, or about $1.80, which has undercut the three red zone bordellos. To enter any of them, customers buy a ticket for 13 soles. To spend 15 minutes with one of the prostitutes costs an additional 20 soles.
Yackelyn Macedo was one of the prostitutes at Trocadero advertising herself in one of the doorways, a red light overhead. "Yaky," read the girlish hand-written sign on the door.
She said the advantage of the red zone is that prostitutes have work cards from the government Health Ministry and are tested once a month for venereal disease and every six months for the HIV virus. "It's much safer for the johns," Macedo said as she sprawled on her thin mattress, a mirror propped against the wall, toiletries and condoms in a small dresser at the head of the bed. Use of the room costs her 20 soles a day. The price includes an adjoining toilet and shower without a plastic curtain.
Macedo, a 24-year-old mother of two, has spent the last four months working as a prostitute at Trocadero. She took the job for the added income, 2,000 soles per month (about $615) versus the 800 soles (or $245) that she earned as a secretary.
Macedo liked Gonzalez's proposal to create sex hotels.
"It would create more opportunities for safe work," she said.
Good idea, but I can't see it happening. By the way, I'd say that 20,000 is on the low side.
Will be heading to Lima next week, bit of a worry if that article is correct and 30% of the women are TV´s - have to drink less. Any updates on the hottest clubs in town?
I'll PM you guys with more info. Sorry haven't gotten back to you sooner, but had a very busy week. I did have time to peruse thru some of the older reports from 2002-2003. In fact, somebody posted a pretty comprehensive list of places with timeframes, plus websites. Very helpful as it had addresses and phone numbers.
I'm booked in the Hotel Maria Luisa for next weekend. Anyone know the difference in Maria Luisa between a junior suite and a senior suite, besides the price? Website was unclear. Made reservation over the phone, but not sure if I understood the chica correctly. She only said that the senior suites were apartment-styled and had bigger televisions. Junior suites appeared to be apartment-styled as well. $10 for a larger TV? Someone help me.
I'm down to check out the spots in Callao. Been warned about the area, but what's life without risks. Trocadero, etc. I'll be travelling with two other dudes, plus I have some regular local contacts there. Let me know if you'll be around next weekend. We plan to monger in between our tourist crap and dating regular chicas.
Have some quick questions.
1. Is normal cabfare from airport still in the 15 soles range?
2. What's the best place to hit for semi-pros on a late Thursday night, approx. 12:00 a.m.?
3. Where can I find the best quality/value for morning massages in Miraflores? Want to wake-up, have a quick session with last nite's chica, then hit a MP or something for a real massage with the option of full service.
4. What's the best spot to hit on Friday nights for good music with many regular chicas with semi-pros & pros mixed in?
5. How far is Larcomar from Maria Luisa/Parque Central area? Can we walk?
6. How safe is Barrio San Martin de Porres? Where is it? Around Av. Peru - 37 block?
Anyone else around during next weekend, let's hook up for drinks and hunting.
Hoof Hunter,
Have some quick questions.
1. Is normal cabfare from airport still in the 15 soles range?
2. What's the best place to hit for semi-pros on a late Thursday night, approx. 12:00 a.m.?
3. Where can I find the best quality/value for morning massages in Miraflores? Want to wake-up, have a quick session with last nite's chica, then hit a MP or something for a real massage with the option of full service.
4. What's the best spot to hit on Friday nights for good music with many regular chicas with semi-pros & pros mixed in?
5. How far is Larcomar from Maria Luisa/Parque Central area? Can we walk?
Anyone else around during next weekend, let's hook up for drinks and hunting.[/QUOTE]1. Normal cabfare to Miraflores from the airport is more like 11-25 soles.
2. Probably your best bet on thursday night will be the "Old PuB" on Calle de pizzas. If there is no action in the pub itself you are right in the heart of things.
3.Probably the MP Bruce, Most places that offer full service, the massage will suck.
4. Normally the three do not mix together. Probably better off Starting off at Cafe Zuka in larco Mar or Phuket on San Martin/larco. If you can't get a regular girl move on to la Noche in Barranco after 12.Still no luck you should be able to get a semi-pro on Calle Pizza.If all else fails the girls from Suites de Barranco usually hit Tequilas about 6 am.
5. Larco mar is a 3 soles cab ride or 10 minute walk to larco mar.
Happy Hunting,
Lima Busy
Hey fellas,
I will be arriving in Lima the night of January 21 for three, possibly four weeks. Who will be around at that time?
David, how about a trip to the Trocadero? Would you mind pm'ing me your cell number? I need to see that place at least once in my life after reading about it for so long. If you dont want to go, and I went alone, I would assume it would be better to go during the day?
I ditched that broad Irene, TMW....too much work. Some other swinging dick can bang her up in Cuzco. If I can get her to tell me the name of the supposed cafe she will be working in I will let you all know so you can try and get some. Then I can finally find out if she is real or not if nothing else. Let me know how I taste. hahaha
Keep it hangin'
Milkster
I setting some non-pros, but will have to monger for a bit. I speak basic spanish and have travel/monger to COL, but not Peru. We can hook up for drinks and mongering.
David33, i see my bud hoof is partying next weekend w/ you. If you're not to worn out partying the afterwar, i like to buy you a beer to get the low down.
Hey Nibs,
Thanks much for the tour last night. I went to sleep dreaming about that hottie from Casanova. I think I have to have her. The $16 chica was fun though.
My hotel (Las Palmas) was really noisy. I used ear plugs and still was kept awake. I´m going to cruise aroung the City, get a massage and hj, then sleep all afternoon. See you tonight.
I'll be around. PM me. As far as the noise in Las Palmas goes,,,if you've got some extra $$, a monger was just down here...didn't like Las Palmas and found a new hotel a few blocks away called the Hotel Colòn. I picked him up there and was impressed. New and modern...even a little pool. He got it including breakfast for $50 a day. Fast internet for guests also.
I arrived last night at 1AM. I did't really keep contact with many chicks since my last time in Lima. This is my fourth time and my last time was 11 months ago.
So me and my buddy went to Tequila to get drunk and maybe pick up some hoes. Getting drunk was our main goal though.
How funny it is that I met one of my free girls Susana:
Oh yes, it's like 3 months ago since she last went to Tequila (yeah, right). She was there with her sister (who is an even hotter bombshell and a known Peruvian model). I'll have pictures of her sister prolly tomorrow.
So I went with Susana to the hostal she lives in. I did have to pay for an extra room as she didn't want to be fucked with her sister sleeping in the bed next to us. So I paid 35 soles for the room and banged Susana in the little garden that room has in the sun at 6AM. Life is good.
My buddy picked up her friend.
All sex was free.
You'll recognize these girls because they are prolly the ones using this introductory phrase: No soy puta, mis amigas no son putas, pero si puedes hablamos.
Susana isn't such a good fuck, btw and she doesn't give head. But as she's so tiny I can throw her around any which way I want.
Went to Comas today to visit the parents of my ex-novia back in Belgium and drop my dirty laundery. I don't life in Belgium anymore and I'm moving around now. Using hotels for dirty laundery is expensive.
On the way back went to Scarlet in Los Olivos (strip club and *****house) at 4PM.
2 hot chicks in the place. Wanted to do a threesome, but went for Angela instead. 18yo and from the Selva. Has only been working for a week and it kinda shows. CBJ and was about to come on her chest. Couldn't finish up so I fucked her again untill I came.
120 soles/h. She was ok. I did whatever I wanted pullling hair, slapping ass, positions, but wouldn't repeat again as her rithm kinda sucks.
I'll have more stories tomorrow.
I was chatting online w/ this hottie(part time model) fr lima, i met her thru the internet. We only exchange couple of email before the chat. She already emailed me her phone number to call her when i'm in town. So we are chatting not flirting or anything, she asked when i'm coming into town, where i'm staying, etc., What i've found odd was couple of things, about couple of minutes into our chat the following happens:
a) AFTER i told her i will be in town the weekend of 1/21, SHE ASKED,"have you bought your ticket yet?" I thought that was odd BECAUSE, i told her i was GOING, NOT just planning to be in town, of course i have my ticket, actually i got tons of FF miles. Was this a BS filter questions, to filter out guys that just talk?
b) She asked what my flight number is, because she offer to PICK ME UP at the airport! Now I thought that was REAL strange because we barely know each other. I politely decline telling her my flight gets in past midnight.
c) As we chat some more, i tell her i also was meeting some gringo buddies in lima. I always tell chicas i have friends in town so i have ready excuse to "hang w/ the boys" ie, mongering. She tend offers to introduce her friend to MY FRIENDS! I said, thank you i'll ask. BTW, David/milkster if any of you guys want to me to set this up, i can setup for friday night 1/21!
d) After the chat, i read her email that sent Prior to us chatting, she wrote,"hospedarte significa alojar y te brindo mi casa y mi
amistad espero verte muy pronto llamame" the translation program spits out, i offer my house and friendship to you, etc.,.
So are peruvian chicas really friendly and nice or i got pyscho on my hand? And i'll be kidnapped and abused by a peruvian hottie! LOL..
I notice just fr the response i get from the interneting dating sites, the peruvians chicas seem friendly and much quicker to offer phone number and tourguide service than even the colombian chicas. I keep reading about how Peruvian chicas are more friendly and easier than Colombians, surely this can't be true?
I don't know about Colombian chicks, but I do know about Peruvians.
And yes, that sounds pretty normal for Peruvian girls that is.
She is prolly trying to get grip on you so you won't be fucking around to much once you notice how easy it is.
Another thing now, all these girls were boned for free, but we suspect them to be hoes anyway. Anyone did these? Just curious.
Zoby
[url]http://www.ivosfotos.com/peru-zoby/[/url]
Susana
[url]http://www.ivosfotos.com/peru-susana/[/url]
Jessica
[url]http://www.ivosfotos.com/peru2004/imagepages/image377.htm[/url]
Up until the house offer, its all normal. The Peruvian girls are really friendly and since there is a lack of gringos around, would like to meet someone for a possible long term relationship. I have often had offers to meet me at the airport. The deal is that they probably want to get you under control right off the bat so that you don't start hanging with the competition. As far as if everything is on the up and up, I'll be happy to get together with you Fri. to check things out. Don't let her know that I live here...make her think that I'm a tourist also. If you want..PM me.