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[QUOTE=Stravinsky;1445200]Starter post for Ivanovo-travel info and experiences in Ivanovo.[/QUOTE]Sorry Strav but you misspelled the Russian version of Ivanovo. Should be Иваново.
Uke Boy, you're right, my mistake. Correct spelling is Иваново. Unfortunately, I'm afraid it's etched in stone at this point.
If you're looking for P4P the only option which I have come across is searching for women looking for sex on mamba and writing to them to try to set something up. I have heard nothing of strip club or brothel which I am sure exist but I just didn't come across. Likely hotel employee could help with some information or taxi driver. Probably necessary to speak some Russian. I can write some information on finding freebies or night club recommendations if requested.
In my current experience if you want to get a good idea of the beauties which are in this city take a walk around Silver City shopping mall. This will give you a fair idea of how many beautiful women there are in this city. Many 8's and 9's strolling around the shops dressed very nicely. It is the shopping mall in the centre next to the river.
Mamba for Ivanovo will have a selection of the average, well below, and horrible. Even the top 100 on this site are in the average category compared to what is actually here.
There are many beauties but they are almost definitely married already by the tender age of 25. Even though men are in relatively short supply there is still enough men to give these attractive women what they want in terms of attention. The women in the 8's and 9's still are likely to be able to choose which successful local man they want and make him behave as they want. You will surely hear women here complain about Ivanovo men. These are the women of the average category and they probably have unrealistic expectations of being treated like a princess.
Best case scenario is that you can speak Russian. This combined with an international salary and international mobility would mean you could easily have a few 9's begging for your attention and in rotation. It would be simply so easy and this city would be a dream for a guy in this category. It would be important to mislead them about how long you are actually staying here, there has to be some carrot on the end of the stick as they are still marriage hungry. They would make perfect travel partners in my opinion and they are not particularly demanding and would be so glad to get out of Ivanovo. Making friends with a few of these women would be a dream come true for someone who wants to take a holiday and enjoy it with a Russian beauty. They would be quite happy with a European holiday where accommodation and food / drink was paid for and it would be very easy to negotiate up front that any shopping expenses are their own responsibility.
Next best case scenario is that you can make the most of English speaking girls. This immediately drops options and attractiveness. Initially on mamba it is likely you will be dropping your standards for any type of attention from women. The best case here is to make a series of steps depending on how long you have. Once you've found a regular fuck, keep trying to progress up. Forget about women who still live with their parents, they are simply too complicated. It is quite easy to see one girl every second night and keep dating other women on the side. It is a cheap city and a date might only cost something like 30 EUR for 2 people. This makes it easy to be very very busy with women if you can find them.
Another possibility is to try to make friends with a very attractive but married Russian woman for access to her single friends. It is possible, I'm sure a few of the guys on this site would try to find a million problems and complications with this, but I will repeat, it is possible. Honestly this is probably the most ideal way to become set up with a beauty. If you are an interesting, nice, attractive, highly paid (relatively to Ivanovo) , western man and potential husband, yet your only fault is that you speak little Russian, this woman would be very enthusiastic to set one of her hot friends up with you. The only problem I can see here is sticking to only one beauty. You would want to play it cool because once set up, you are probably more or less stuck to the one you chose.
Near the end of scenarios is that you have to use P4P. Found on mamba searching for sex. If I find anything else out regarding brothels I will post it.
Worst case scenario is that you get nothing. If this was to happen I would have so much pity on you for coming to this city which is quite a horrible place. The only thing it's got going for it is the women.
There is a strip club on the outskirts near the airport. Has attached hotel which doesn't take a genius to work out the function of this hotel is. It isn't for the airport which is a dump.
[QUOTE=DavidVanSchuma;1452442]The only problem I can see here is sticking to only one beauty. You would want to play it cool because once set up, you are probably more or less stuck to the one you chose.[/QUOTE]That's the problem with small towns, everyone knows your business.
Thanks for the report on Ivanovo, it's always good to have first-hand impressions of the provinces, and we don't get a lot of those.
It seems you use Mamba almost exclusively to connect with women. I can't help but wonder if that is a benefit, or a limitation? In a city like Ivanovo, with so many possibilities just walking around on the street, is it possible that direct contact with women you meet might be more productive?
[QUOTE=Stravinsky;1453812]It seems you use Mamba almost exclusively to connect with women. I can't help but wonder if that is a benefit, or a limitation? In a city like Ivanovo, with so many possibilities just walking around on the street, is it possible that direct contact with women you meet might be more productive?[/QUOTE]That's the question that jumped off the page for me, as well.
But if I understand DvS, it doesn't seem to be what he's about.
Maybe he's a trifle inhibited by a lack of Russian but to invert a paraphrase - "if you can't make it there, you won't make it anywhere".
Last time I was there I was only 45 minutes between buses at the station and still nearly got kidnapped by a fine local MILF.
Still slightly rueful I didn't relax my schedule and allow myself to be dragged off to the Kommunalkas!
[QUOTE=DavidVanSchuma;1452442]Another possibility is to try to make friends with a very attractive but married Russian woman for access to her single friends. It is possible, I'm sure a few of the guys on this site would try to find a million problems and complications with this, but I will repeat, it is possible. Honestly this is probably the most ideal way to become set up with a beauty. If you are an interesting, nice, attractive, highly paid (relatively to Ivanovo) , western man and potential husband, yet your only fault is that you speak little Russian, this woman would be very enthusiastic to set one of her hot friends up with you. The only problem I can see here is sticking to only one beauty. You would want to play it cool because once set up, you are probably more or less stuck to the one you chose.[/QUOTE]There is actually something in this although I wouldn't necessarily agree you're then stuck with the Designated Dyev.
For the younger ones, life is intensely competitive and a kind of zero-sum game, but the older ones know the score and may happily pass you around among themselves til you find your match or move on to the next coven.
Never underestimate the legacy of collectivisation, as to Russians it can still be baffling to see someone either travelling and/or drinking and dining on their own.
Their instinct will be that you should be 'paired-off' almost immediately and the younger ones will maybe compete for you while the older ones will take a more sanguine/pragmatic approach to your availability/desirability and be prepared to spin your bottle, so to speak.
[QUOTE=Gergiev;1453955]Last time I was there I was only 45 minutes between buses at the station and still nearly got kidnapped by a fine local MILF. Still slightly rueful I didn't relax my schedule and allow myself to be dragged off to the Kommunalkas![/QUOTE]G.
You were on a schedule? In Ivanovo? Puh-leez!
I have a suspicion we are both mature enough to know that life is far too short to miss an opportunity to be kidnapped by a fine local MILF. :)
[QUOTE=Stravinsky; 1453969]G.
You were on a schedule? In Ivanovo? Puh-leez!
I have a suspicion we are both mature enough to know that life is far too short to miss an opportunity to be kidnapped by a fine local MILF. .[/QUOTE]Indeed, I have no real defence against your clear and concise reasoning, Strav.
To compound my offence, I also declined the offer of an all-day hotel encounter with my conquest of the previous night, back in Suzdal.
I'm inclined to be a little neurotic on matters like this.
I had planned to be in Kostroma by a certain date and that was that.
Now if only Bez had kept his appointment...
[QUOTE=Gergiev;1453976]Now if only Bez had kept his appointment.[/QUOTE]Understood, honor among mongers is paramount.
[QUOTE=Stravinsky; 1453812]That's the problem with small towns, everyone knows your business.
Thanks for the report on Ivanovo, it's always good to have first-hand impressions of the provinces, and we don't get a lot of those.
It seems you use Mamba almost exclusively to connect with women. I can't help but wonder if that is a benefit, or a limitation? In a city like Ivanovo, with so many possibilities just walking around on the street, is it possible that direct contact with women you meet might be more productive?
That's the question that jumped off the page for me, as well.
But if I understand DvS, it doesn't seem to be what he's about.
Maybe he's a trifle inhibited by a lack of Russian but to invert a paraphrase. "if you can't make it there, you won't make it anywhere".[/QUOTE]So I will try to elaborate a little more with some responses but what I've written is rather a summary and a short one at that of the adventures. I will follow this post with some more info.
As there was no information here about Ivanovo, and very little information in general from a touristic perspective, I have been taking my time and being a little careful to where and when I get about and learning about the city from the girls I've been dating. Ivanovo is not such an easy city where night clubs just stand out or there is a centre of town. I'm not staying in a hotel, rather my own apartment which means I can't hit on the receptionist or ask advice from hotel staff. I also have to work a normal job so can't stroll around hitting on women all day long. I work with mostly women and while some of them are amazing I have decided not to cross this line and let common sense prevail due to reasons I won't state here.
Mamba has not been my exclusive avenue but has kept me by far busy enough so far not to bother too much pestering women walking on the street, shopping centre or working in shops though it's not that I haven't done this also. I can manage to keep a few conversations going on mamba with girls I'm lining up for dates during the day juggling my work. It is both an advantage and if you can use it with some other ways can be very good to supplement finding girls to date.
I'm interested exclusively in dating many beautiful women and not interested here in P4P. It has been ok so far because why pay for something which is possible to get for free* I fucked the first hot girl 5. 6 times over 3 encounters and lost any sense of count with the 2nd one who kept me busy every 2nd night for 2 weeks. 1st girl most interesting experience in my life. 2nd girl best sex of my life. Hence why pay.
A trifle inhibited by lack of Russian is probably a good judgement. I'm no long termer maybe like you guys and had little experience with Russia but I was also no newbie walking around in a state of shock. I have had Russian exposure and could read Cyrillic, know Russian phrases, words and can function. Language is developing still. It is enough to really impress a Russian girl without having a complete conversation in Russian.
With my known weakness of Russian language where did I figure the most logical place to meet some English speaking girls (except trawling mamba) , well English language schools and there are more than dozens. I have tried this out once so far and going in asking the receptionist for information about Russian classes is a great guise. First attempt I was greeted by one of the most beautiful women I have seen in my life. Unfortunately she was married but we exchanged numbers and she said she would call me about discussing Russian learning over a drink away from the language school. I think this was a mis-communication and I was supposed to call her but I was very busy with work and other girls I didn't pursue. I will pursue this week to see what I can learn from this.
Also, I've become much much more fussy with standards. I think I was selling myself a little short before settling in here. I've upped the standards and things are going very nicely still.
So things came to an end with girl #2. 2 weeks of fucking each other exhausted every 2nd night was great but her life became complicated and couldn't see so much of me. I'm not complaining. Saw her for the last time on the Wednesday night. Needed a well deserved rest Thursday night.
I needed to line up some girls for the Friday night. I became much more selective via mamba. Browse for the ones I found the most attractive and sent my usual copy / paste, hook, line and sinker.
I had a few good responses and had a definite date for dinner confirmed with one hottie. Another exceptionally hot girl invited me to join her for drinks later on that night but she didn't come back online so I sent my number and hoped she would send me a text with details so we could meet up.
Starting with dinner, met this girl who I would give a 8. 5-9/10. Simply amazing body, nice large tits without being excessive, slim figure, amazing legs and arse, beautiful face. Was a rather straight forward dinner, a little bit of flirting, touched her hair, kissed her on the cheek. Getting close together to use the Rus-Eng dictionary on my phone. In my current experience so far it's not good to go too strong too fast but just a little bit to make sure she knows exactly what your interested in but not too much that she needs to back you off. I'm sure you other guys here know this but women get harassed by men on mamba to a rather extreme amount for sex and if the encounter is with a rather normal Russian girl she is immediately on the defensive. Place this with her communicating in a second language it's important to place her at ease and be relaxed. I can't believe all these inconsiderate Russian men harassing these girls so far that they think all men on this site want is sex. It's ruining my plan to simply have sex. Honestly I now have no expectation of fucking on first date, but if not some kissing or more on the 3rd it is not worth following further. This is why I need to have a few girls running at the same time because they come as fast as the go.
So the girl had to leave the restaurant at 22:00 because of some responsibility to her sister. I wasn't complaining too much because this gave me still some hours to have some adventure. Gave her a kiss goodnight and saw her to her taxi. This was in the bag for the 2nd and 3rd dates because she was very warm and receptive but had some standards of not doing thing with a complete stranger on the first date. To be pursued.
Made my way from the restaurant down to what there is of a town centre and wanted to inspect a club. Called something like Club Rocco at square pushkin, upstairs at the right of the drama theatre. Seemed to not be open yet and due to it being the military holiday there was a large amount of Russian men drunk and jumping through the fountain, carrying each other and generally being entertaining. Sat and watched this for a few minutes while I was thinking about walking back up the hill to another bar, Dudkibar. I was also planning to check this place out later into the evening as it has been mentioned by some of the girls I have seen.
While sitting I get a text on my phone. It was the other hottie who wanted me to meet her for drinks. She was at a restaurant just across the street and couldn't have been better timing. Make my way to the restaurant and she finds me at the bar. Now this woman is absolutely perfect. 9.5/10 only because I don't believe in 10/10 until the experience in bed. But absolutely stunning beauty visage, perfect figure, tits round and ample, tall, slim with amazing legs and arse. I was just thinking what have I got myself here this must be the night of my life. I continued the night with her and while she openly liked me very much she was also not one to kiss, fuck on first encounter. This is not so much as I don't always like getting straight into it from the noisy bar. I like to be very sensual with women in romantic settings and spend my time pleasuring them. I honestly didn't expect I would get attention from her over mamba because she has posted pictures which look like actual modelling shots. Not just the typical pro-images but they were more. I asked her if she actually ever modeled and she told me she was invited to model but would have to starve herself to become so skinny she would consider it too ugly. Good thing because she had the perfect balanced body of being slim but not too skinny.
Anyway she was really into me but didn't get the feeling for fucking so soon. I place her into the class which I place most of the girls I meet here. They are looking for husbands. Sure they would like to have some good sex but I fit the bill for husband material and likely they don't want to mess this potential up. They could get any of the local flatheads to give them a quick fuck. Unfortunately she is away from Ivanovo for 2 weeks and I hope to pursue this one when she gets back.
For Saturday I had already lined up my entertainment for my provincial adventure for the weekend. Hungover but made it early to the bus station and get to the other town. Girl #1 here was planned to be my tour guide. She was pretty, beautiful blue eyes, face and smile with enormous tits but she was just a little too large in the arse for me. 7.5/10. Shame really because if I didn't have the 2 hotties attention the previous night I would have probably pursued this more and it was simply too easy if I wanted to. She was exceptionally nice and showed me the entire city. I had another girl lined up for the evening so made my excuses of tired, etc and escaped for the evening. She still planned to spend Sunday with me so this was ok.
Dinner with girl #2, now I'm just not getting so surprised anymore. Again amazing, long-dark haired beauty with blue eyes and very petite. Some of the most amazing slim legs, arse and tight body I have had the joy of walking around with. A bit of an uncomfortable starting as she was telling me all I need to know about how sceptical the women are of mamba and she was very unsure of meeting me at all and simply didn't trust me. Fortunately intelligent worldy conversation placed her quite at ease and she was really liking me and trusting me. Once again when a girl is saying how much she hates all the local flatheads for just using mamba to try to get sex it makes it very difficult to actually go and also do this. Took her for a nice walk around town talking and getting to know each other and decided to become a bit more versatile and flexible and instead of asking her to my hotel that night I decided to dodge this possible failure and burning the bridge, invite her to travel with me next weekend to another city to visit. This was taken very very well as she is looking for a nice guy to have a good time with. The matter of hotel room etc I will be detailing tomorrow with her. This one I hope will be a firecracker in bed and I would be very disappointed if she is too cold for fucking within this short period of time. Still very easy to turn the game on while traveling and I will just try to sneak in some kisses while being tourists. See what comes of it.
Arrived back into Ivanovo Sunday afternoon after being a tourist with the first girl but still wasn't feeling the romance or interest with her. I tried to line up the girl from Friday night to join me for tea but she was busy. I have things to organise anyway and will pursue some more fun tomorrow night. Probably be giving the language school receptionist a call if nothing else kicks up.
So things came to an end with girl #2. 2 weeks of fucking each other exhausted every 2nd night was great but her life became complicated and couldn't see so much of me. I'm not complaining. Saw her for the last time on the Wednesday night. Needed a well deserved rest Thursday night.
I needed to line up some girls for the Friday night. I became much more selective via mamba. Browse for the ones I found the most attractive and sent my usual copy / paste, hook, line and sinker.
I had a few good responses and had a definite date for dinner confirmed with one hottie. Another exceptionally hot girl invited me to join her for drinks later on that night but she didn't come back online so I sent my number and hoped she would send me a text with details so we could meet up.
Starting with dinner, met this girl who I would give a 8. 5-9/10. Simply amazing body, nice large tits without being excessive, slim figure, amazing legs and arse, beautiful face. Was a rather straight forward dinner, a little bit of flirting, touched her hair, kissed her on the cheek. Getting close together to use the Rus-Eng dictionary on my phone. In my current experience so far it's not good to go too strong too fast but just a little bit to make sure she knows exactly what your interested in but not too much that she needs to back you off. I'm sure you other guys here know this but women get harassed by men on mamba to a rather extreme amount for sex and if the encounter is with a rather normal Russian girl she is immediately on the defensive. Place this with her communicating in a second language it's important to place her at ease and be relaxed. I can't believe all these inconsiderate Russian men harassing these girls so far that they think all men on this site want is sex. It's ruining my plan to simply have sex. Honestly I now have no expectation of fucking on first date, but if not some kissing or more on the 3rd it is not worth following further. This is why I need to have a few girls running at the same time because they come as fast as the go.
So the girl had to leave the restaurant at 22:00 because of some responsibility to her sister. I wasn't complaining too much because this gave me still some hours to have some adventure. Gave her a kiss goodnight and saw her to her taxi. This was in the bag for the 2nd and 3rd dates because she was very warm and receptive but had some standards of not doing thing with a complete stranger on the first date. To be pursued.
Made my way from the restaurant down to what there is of a town centre and wanted to inspect a club. Called something like Club Rocco at square pushkin, upstairs at the right of the drama theatre. Seemed to not be open yet and due to it being the military holiday there was a large amount of Russian men drunk and jumping through the fountain, carrying each other and generally being entertaining. Sat and watched this for a few minutes while I was thinking about walking back up the hill to another bar, Dudkibar. I was also planning to check this place out later into the evening as it has been mentioned by some of the girls I have seen.
While sitting I get a text on my phone. It was the other hottie who wanted me to meet her for drinks. She was at a restaurant just across the street and couldn't have been better timing. Make my way to the restaurant and she finds me at the bar. Now this woman is absolutely perfect. 9.5/10 only because I don't believe in 10/10 until the experience in bed. But absolutely stunning beauty visage, perfect figure, tits round and ample, tall, slim with amazing legs and arse. I was just thinking what have I got myself here this must be the night of my life. I continued the night with her and while she openly liked me very much she was also not one to kiss, fuck on first encounter. This is not so much as I don't always like getting straight into it from the noisy bar. I like to be very sensual with women in romantic settings and spend my time pleasuring them. I honestly didn't expect I would get attention from her over mamba because she has posted pictures which look like actual modelling shots. Not just the typical pro-images but they were more. I asked her if she actually ever modeled and she told me she was invited to model but would have to starve herself to become so skinny she would consider it too ugly. Good thing because she had the perfect balanced body of being slim but not too skinny.
Anyway she was really into me but didn't get the feeling for fucking so soon. I place her into the class which I place most of the girls I meet here. They are looking for husbands. Sure they would like to have some good sex but I fit the bill for husband material and likely they don't want to mess this potential up. They could get any of the local flatheads to give them a quick fuck. Unfortunately she is away from Ivanovo for 2 weeks and I hope to pursue this one when she gets back.
For Saturday I had already lined up my entertainment for my provincial adventure for the weekend. Hungover but made it early to the bus station and get to the other town. Girl #1 here was planned to be my tour guide. She was pretty, beautiful blue eyes, face and smile with enormous tits but she was just a little too large in the arse for me. 7.5/10. Shame really because if I didn't have the 2 hotties attention the previous night I would have probably pursued this more and it was simply too easy if I wanted to. She was exceptionally nice and showed me the entire city. I had another girl lined up for the evening so made my excuses of tired, etc and escaped for the evening. She still planned to spend Sunday with me so this was ok.
Dinner with girl #2, now I'm just not getting so surprised anymore. Again amazing, long-dark haired beauty with blue eyes and very petite. Some of the most amazing slim legs, arse and tight body I have had the joy of walking around with. A bit of an uncomfortable starting as she was telling me all I need to know about how sceptical the women are of mamba and she was very unsure of meeting me at all and simply didn't trust me. Fortunately intelligent worldy conversation placed her quite at ease and she was really liking me and trusting me. Once again when a girl is saying how much she hates all the local flatheads for just using mamba to try to get sex it makes it very difficult to actually go and also do this. Took her for a nice walk around town talking and getting to know each other and decided to become a bit more versatile and flexible and instead of asking her to my hotel that night I decided to dodge this possible failure and burning the bridge, invite her to travel with me next weekend to another city to visit. This was taken very very well as she is looking for a nice guy to have a good time with. The matter of hotel room etc I will be detailing tomorrow with her. This one I hope will be a firecracker in bed and I would be very disappointed if she is too cold for fucking within this short period of time. Still very easy to turn the game on while traveling and I will just try to sneak in some kisses while being tourists. See what comes of it.
Arrived back into Ivanovo Sunday afternoon after being a tourist with the first girl but still wasn't feeling the romance or interest with her. I tried to line up the girl from Friday night to join me for tea but she was busy. I have things to organise anyway and will pursue some more fun tomorrow night. Probably be giving the language school receptionist a call if nothing else kicks up.