I always stay at the Sportsman. Never been disappointed. A little noisy. Great staff with Johanna & Pricsella. Tried to stay at the Clarion once and it shoutdown while I was there.
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I always stay at the Sportsman. Never been disappointed. A little noisy. Great staff with Johanna & Pricsella. Tried to stay at the Clarion once and it shoutdown while I was there.
Travelwind -
There is much info on this forum about good, decent hotels in San Jose. Look at the previous posts about hotels - and I recommend that you will not go wrong staying at the Castillo Hotel in Barro Amon. It is owned and managed by Americans. They are 'chica friendly' with no chica charges, and they cater to mongers from the US. Rooms are very nice, with all the ammenities, and the cash discount rate should be about $ 40. 00 per night this time of year - in the "green season".
They have a website. Do a search on Google for Castillo Hotel, San Jose CR.
Also it is about 6 blocks from the Del Rey Hotel & Blue Marlin Bar. Everyone's uncontested "hottie central" for P4P chicas in San Jose.
I recommend you take taxi's close to and after dark though, as if you walk the 6 or blocks to the Del Rey. You will have to pass through one of the parks. And they can be a dangerous place to find yourself especially after dark.
There will be streetwalkers in the parks starting around dark, but from experience I would recommend that you just 'keep on walking' and don't even speak to any of them. This area. Just south of the Holiday and the INNS (Insurance Institute) is also a favorite hangout for pickpockets and transvestites. And you don't want to personally "meet" any of them if you can help it.
If you want a hotel with a nice bar, and some working chicas around in the evening then check out the Sportsman's Lodge. It's just around the corner and up a block or so from the Castillo.
It's about a $ 2. 00 ride by taxi from either of these two hotels to the Del Rey Hotel. Where you will probably find yourself going a couple of times during the day or evening.
Thank you for the information.
After reading some post, I think I am going to try the Presidente. This will be my first of many trip to SJ.
I know the Blue M and Key Largo are only a couple of blocks, but I have read that is still good to take a taxi to them even from the Presidente. Would you agree?
Thanks
[QUOTE=Khun Larry]Chase Star, How does Rio compare to BKK?[/QUOTE]Sorry, I somehow missed this one. This is the CR forum so I probably should be comparing those 2 to CR. Also, I believe that particular question has been covered elsewhere. However here are a few of the key differences:
I see you've already been many times to BKK, so I'll focus more on Rio. As you know BKK is inland. If you want beaches there's always that hour or so trip from to Pattaya but the beaches there themselves leave something to be desired. IMHO Rio's beaches are MUCH nicer. There's just nothing like all those bronze-skinned thonged garota bundas.
Aside from beaches, in BKK theres much more non-monger stuff to see and do. BKK has all the over the top Temples and Palaces, and for day trips floating markets, ancient ruins etc. Rio has Sugarloaf and Corcovado and, apart from the beaches, thats about it. I never made it out to Macarana Stadium for a game which I'll have to do next time.
In the food area, IMHO, BKK has the definite edge. Thai food is more exotic than Brazilian and many other cuisines are available. There's also some pretty weird street food if you're adventurous. And its all dirt cheap. However Rio is no slouch for food either. The classic local dish is the feijoada, which frankly doesn't impress me that much (a pork stew with beans and different parts of the pig). If you like steak and BBQ, Rio has some great Rodizio, all-you-can-eat meat buffets, for pretty cheap.
But let's cut to the part you're really interested in. BKK has fishbowl MP's and soapies. Rio has termas. Each is quite different and its hard to say which is better. I suppose that is a matter of personal taste. The chicas themselves are also quite different. Thai girls are generally more petite spinner types. Neither tend to have big tits though the edge there would have to go to the Brazilianas and of course, there are always exceptions. If you're an ass-man I don't think anyplace can beat Brazil and many of the girls are into anal if thats your thing too.
Costs are cheap in both places though the edge definitely goes to BKK on that score too. The catch is the cost and time of getting there. I don't know where you're coming from. I'm in Florida and from here its something like 20-25 hrs of flying time and stopovers and unless you have FF miles well over $1000. Rio is more like 12 hours and well under $1000. That part everyone knows but the other key difference that you can't fully appreciate unless you've experienced both flights is that flying to Rio you cross very few time zones. That 12 hour time difference with Asia can be a real killer. Flying to Rio, you leave one afternoon, sleep on the plane and can be on the beaches late the next morning. IMHO, it all comes down to how long your trip is. If its long enough to make the flight, time differences and lower local costs pay than BKK. For less than 2 weeks I'd go to Rio. But it mostly comes down to are personal preferences.
Travelwind,
Having read your other posts, I'm going to have to disagree somewhat with my mongering brothers here. First, lets dispel the Marriott Courtyard idea proposed by your associate. It is nice but way out on the edge of downtown and you'll be forced to take a cab to go anywhere EVEN during the DAY plus I'm not so sure about their chica policy though I'm guessing there are probably fees involved.
The Sportsmen's is a great place that is highly popular with mongers but for you that might be its downfall. For you this is not a purely mongering trip. In another post, you appeared to be concerned with what your local business associates would think from where you were staying. The Sportsmen's is NOT a businessman's hotel. It is a hotel for, well, sportsmen, by which I don't mean guys there just for golf and fishing. It does have a bar with a few chicas around it but the action there is sleepy compared to the BM where you'll probable want to spend a lot of your time your first trip and like the HDR you don't HAVE to stay at the same place you party at.
The Castillo is another fine place just around the corner from the Sportsman's and 1 block from New Fantasy. It's big draw is that it is cheap if you pay cash. Again I don't know if that is practical for you or whether you're on an expense account for your trip. According to their website [url]www.hotelcastillo.biz[/url] it looks like their rates have been creeping up with green season cash rates for their basic room (which is quite small) now up to $44 + tax (thats what happend to these places when they become too popular with mongers and other regular visitors). Add $20 if you want a better room or 15% if you pay by CC. OTOH, if you stay a full week you can get a further 20% reduction.
For you, I still like the Clarion Amon. That closure that Stoker Star referred to was, so far, a one-time thing that happened back in May or June(?) and was very brief. Just some bad timing on his part. It had to do with some unpaid back taxes or some other bureaucratic issue, which presumably has been straightened out. If anything that shows how hungry for business these guys ought to be. The key is to book through the casino [url]www.casino-paradiso.com[/url] rather than the hotel itself. The hotel's regular rates are $99 + tax which would be a rip-off. No wonder they can't fill their rooms. The casino rate is just $75 INCLUDING Breakfast AND ALL TAXES. Thats equivalant to a pre-tax rate of $64 which is about the same as Castillo's rates for their comparable deluxe rooms. ITs further from the Sportsman's and New Fantasy. Big deal. Its only 1 block from Zona Blue and 2 from NF and closer to all the Zona Roja MP's. At night, you'd probably want to take a cab to the BM or whereever else you want to go regardless of which hotel you pick. And choosing the US-based Clarion hotel will be a lot easier to explain to your colleagues.
If you want to economize than pay the $44(plus tax) cash price for a basic room at Castillo. If you plan to upgrade to a nicer room anyway, I think you'll be happier at the Clarion, with its cleaner image, full casino, nice restaurant, better location etc. all for about the same final price plus you might be able to put it on your company charge card.
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[color=red]Ooops! I see you've decided on the Presidente. I wouldn't second guess yourself at this point and just go for it. If they turn out to be booked up while you plan to go then consider what I've posted above. I'd also recommend you go to CRT so you can find out about their discount policy with the Presidente and other SJ businesses.
As for taking cabs, until the security situation resolves itself better (they supposedly have increased police coverage with limited results) I'd take a cab at night, particularly when walking with a chica or with any cash. During the day walking anywhere should be perfectly fine. Just follow normal street precautions as you would in any city (ie be aware of what is going on around you)[/color]
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Travelwind,
TLN? That's a tough one. The rate largely depends on your bargaining ability and chemistry with the chica (even more so than when bargaining for just 1 hour). My estimate is that very often one can turn a cien por una hora opening bid into a cien por TLN final settlement without too much trouble. Your bargaining power goes up later at night as all the silly chicas that have been standing around holding out for the elusive $100/hour rate that never came finally realize they're better off taking what they can get or else risk going home with nada. Add to that the fact that at that point they probably wouldn't be coming back to the BM for another score anyway. OTOH, if you wait too late into the night for bargains, you might miss out on other more choice chicas who have already left for TLN's or have made their mark for the night and won't be coming back. If the chemistry is right, you can definitely negotiate even lower rates for TLN than the $100. OTOH, there are guys who will pay even more than that so again it comes down to your bargaining ability. Personally, $100/nt is my upper limit.
Some other tips.
[b]Tip#1, make sure its clear that a full morning session is included.[/b] There are many chicas whose idea of TLN is sexo until you tucker out for the night, sleeping with you in your bed and then rushing out early in the morning so they can be home before the kids get up. Worse, in my view, are the chicas that seem to want to sleep in all morning long as I like to get out at a reasonable hour and start doing things.
BTW, neither of these are an issue when you just pay them for an hour or 2 the night before, get the testosterone out of your system and either escort them back to the BM or send them on their way. You also get a better night's sleep albeit without a sexy chica to curl up against. If it weren't for the morning session would that benefit be worth the TLN premium? I don't think so which is why I personally don't bother with TLN's too often.
[b]Tip #2, since you're going to be sleeping while some stranger is in your room, it becomes even more important to keep things secure.[/b] In any event it is a good idea to only take your drinking money to the bar and have everything else locked up in advance back at the safe in your room. Since you pay at the end there is no reason to even open the safe until it is time for her to go the next morning.
[b]Tip #3, it is also my personal preference to only do TLN's with chicas I've been with before.[/b] This is for several reasons. First of all, there's the added security issue that I alluded to above. If you've seen her before and have become a regular customer, there's far less chance that she'll try to rip you off. Secondly, and perhaps more importantly, she may turn out to be a clunker. If you only negotiate for an hour, the most you'll be out is the $40-60 you initially agreed to. If you agreed to $100 for TLN and you decide early that she needs to go, you're forced to renegotiate a settlement. OTOH, if your hour session turns out well you can always negotiate up to have her stay over (or even get it at no extra charge) OR just arrange to go for a TLN on another night.
Thanks for the information Chase.
It was very helpfull. I agree with you on all your points about over night stays. I have had both. As you have said it depends alot on the girl.
As for my hotel. I did get into the Presidente for all the night. I may have to change rooms on my last night, but that will be ok.
So if this is not to personal of a question, where do you hang out? Is it more day or night?
I have read you are the expert.
Thanks again for your help.
I have read your recent post about the rates.
Maybe I am a little slow but, $100 is that for the night or per hour?
One of the post you sent me said the best you can do is $40/hr and another one said they start at $100/hr.
So, what is a good per hour rate to shoot for and what is the best all night rate to go for?
So, in the heat of battle for the best rate, how specific do you have to be?
Include kissing any special addition etc?
I have been to quite a few other countries like China, Taiwan and Thailand and I guess I never had to be specific about kissing. But I see some of the post discuss that, some do and some don't. It it the chem between the two people?
Thanks
[QUOTE=Chase Star]
[b]Tip#1, make sure its clear that a full morning session is included.[/b]
[b]Tip #2, since you're going to be sleeping while some stranger is in your room, it becomes even more important to keep things secure.[/b]
[b]Tip #3, it is also my personal preference to only do TLN's with chicas I've been with before.[/b]
... if your hour session turns out well you can always negotiate up to have her stay over (or even get it at no extra charge) OR just arrange to go for a TLN on another night.[/QUOTE]
Chase Star is 100% on the money! I agree with every single thing he says.
When I first started, I thought that TLN would be the coolest thing. It is not. I found it usually is far more trouble than it is worth.
Many chicas think that "all night" means a few hours, and are out the door by 3 AM. They rarely think that it includes another session in the morning.
With other chicas you'll find that a few hours is way too many, and you can't wait for them to leave.
I've never experienced a problem with security, but it is something to always be mindful of.
I've also learned that not many chicas will look, smell, or perform as well after a night of sleep. She won't be nearly as fresh, so you may want to bring a spare toothbrush and hairbrush for her to use.
And be sure to bring a makeup kit, as the chicas usually look a hell of a lot different once it has all worn off.
If you find that you are really up for another nut early in the morning, the advantage of the Del Rey is that it is open 24 hours. You just might be better off taking your chances there.
At the very least, definitely take Chase's advice and only engage a chica for TLN if you have already had a successful session with her and and find that you really enjoy her company.
DB
Thanks for the props Dodger.
Travelwind.
Let me more clear. Almost all chicas at the BM will open with a $100 PER HOUR bid. Its what they often START ASKING at and not what you should ULTIMATELY PAY. IMHO, only ignorant newbies or guys with more money than common sense take them up on that, since most will readily settle for less. The $40/hr rate, that we were talking about, is about as low as you can probably get an hour for at the BM. You could start at that level on your side. Some here are arguing that not only should one start at that rate but should stick to it as assiduously as many of the chicas stick to their $100. I personally think somewhere in the $50-70 range is a much more reasonable and acheivable target. Again, IMHO, $100 PER HOUR is WAY too much for most chicas and $40 is probably too low but if you can get away on the low end, go for it. OTOH, paying the high end only drives up prices for everyone. Sure the free market should determine prices, but when chicas at MP's just a few blocks away work for as little as $10/hr, $100/hr at the BM is simply too much and I don't care how hot the chica is.
Rates for TLN are obviously very different. First of all, more time typically costs more money. There's also a wider range in what guys are willing to pay. If core hourly rates range from $50-70 then TLN rates probably range between $75-$125. But in both of those cases, those are only rough guides. Some guys pay much more and some pay much less. It alll comes down to various factors such as chemistry, bargaining skills and in the case of TLN whether she has babies she needs to get home to (in fact, asking about her parental status is a good opening question if you have TLN in mind). When I mentioned paying $100 as a good average rate it was for ALL NIGHT and only mentioned along with the cien por HORA issue because I see it as a valid way to counter a chica that won't go below $100. For many that is a magic level. They'll ask for $100/HR and refuse to compromise on price and yet are fairly willing to compromise on time. So they say "Cien por hora", You say "no, cinquenta, they say "no cien" you say "por todo la noche" and they say "Okay, lets go baby".
I'll never understand the logic of some of these chicas.
Some only ask cien because that is the unofficial rule at the BM (there is some speculation that it is the influence of the colombiana mafianas). Most know that most guys won't go for that and will readily compromise, particularly if you're discrete and don't advertise to their amigas how cheaply you got them for.
But there are also many that stubbornly stick to that rate. Some of the hotter colombianas manage to find many takers at that rate since there is always a parade of newbies flowing through the BM that don't know any better and are willing to pay it. I don't understand those guys either. They seem to think that because its such a bargain compared to the price of escorts in NY or whereever they're from that they're getting a steal, never mind what it costs them to get down to CR or what the local standards are.
But that brings me back to the chicas I don't understand. There are many "lower tier" chicas (6-7's) that seem to think they can get the same $100 rate as their much better looking hermanas. They'll turn down guy after guy who offer them $50-70 sticking with their pride and the futile hope that that $100 score is just around the corner. Often they wait all night for it and either finally budge on price or go home alone and empty pocketed. Even if they find the one guy in there with unfathomable taste in chicas and who's willing to pay $100, they wind up with one date at $100 maybe every other night when in the same time period they could have gone with 2-3 guys each night for $60 a pop (for those math challenged that's an average of $180/nt vs. only $50). To me thats just not good business. But maybe they just have their standards and their self-pride and it isn't all about maximizing their weekly earnings.
Oops. You ask so many questions that I missed a few again.
"In the heat of battle..." Be careful about that. Another thing I commonly recommend is the first thing you do when you arrive in CR is to go someplace with fixed rates. An MP by day or if you get in at night IDEM makes a good choice up until midnight. That way you don't have to worry about negotiating and thinking with your little head. The most you'll pay is about 20K colones ($40) and you'll get that first shot of testosterone out your system. That way when you make you're first appearance at the BM, you'll more easily be able to stay in control.
"How specific do you have to be?" This is a touchy subject. Obviously you don't want to make it like a job interview or a contract negotiation with a zillion questions even though in many ways that is what it is. The art is slipping in the questions artfully and casually like it is all just part of your normal conversation. Probably you won't be able to cover everything you want to ask or should and by Murphy's Law it is usually the one thing you forgot or neglected to ask about that later comes up as something she doesn't want to do. Very few guys are perfect at this aspect of mongering and most likely if there is something that you forgot to ask and she doesn't do, it doesn't turn out to be a deal breaker. If you ask anything make sure you at least ask about the real dealbreakers and everything else will probably just fall into place. The other thing I should say is to not make it sound like a bunch of questions be playful about things. Joke with her about it, ask her "muchos besos" with a smile. "Si si si, of course, baby", she'll probably say while cozying up to you. "Pero, con lengua" you ask while sticking your tongue out at her and laughing. You get the idea. I think you find out as much by personal chemistry and a monger's intuition for GFE as you do by any specific question.
Does the Clarion have chica fees?
Amon Plaza has chica fees but there is a way around it. Contact Nixon at [email]paradisorooms@hotmail.com[/email] and ask for their "CRT rate" which also waives chica fees. You should be able to book a room for $60 with daily American breakfast and no chica fees. Its a decent hotel in a quiet section of town. Very close to Del Rey but you always use taxis in San Jose at night.
They have suites on the top floor for about $85/night if you want to go upscale.
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