I was not Joking !!! ;;;)))
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I was not Joking !!! ;;;)))
IT
[QUOTE=Sporadic]It was a joke, or intended to be one.
101 refers to the introductory level courses at university in the US.[/QUOTE]
Beeing EU I do not understand this jokes....
:))))))
IT
Like meaning I'm a newbye...
I would like to go to the Ukraine to get some Ukrainian action. But by reading here it seem that all of the acton is dead in this ocuntry. Can someboy help a newbie who would go to this Country. I have been to Cuba, Dominican Republic, Costa Rica, Mexico and Colombia. Where can one go to get action in this country? Is Kiev a good place to start? Where in Kiev? I am biligual in Spanish and English. I know very minimal Russian. Any help guys would be much appreciated.
El Cubanito
[QUOTE=It Travel]It's quite simple... [/QUOTE]
Lufthansa has direct flights to Kazan via Frankfurt.
;)
I know you guys are more into the hard stuff, but has any of you tried any of these massage parlors in Kiev:
[url]http://www.absara-massage.com/[/url]
[url]http://www.angel-mas.kiev.ua/[/url]
[url]http://www.idzanami.com[/url]
[url]http://latina.rozvaga.com/contact.php?lang=&width=1024[/url]
[url]http://www.bagira.net.ua/[/url]
[url]http://www.miledi.com.ua[/url]
[url]http://www.nata.com.ua/[/url]
[url]http://www.paradise-kiev.com.ua[/url]
[url]http://www.thaimassage.kiev.ua/[/url]
[url]http://www.angelina.in.ua[/url]
[url]http://www.gloria.net.ua/[/url]
[url]http://www.bodymassageinkiev.narod.ru/[/url]
[url]http://www.massage.com.ua/[/url]
[url]http://www.izuminka.kiev.ua/[/url]
[url]http://www.orhideya.kiev.ua/[/url]
[url]http://www.rakuena.com/[/url]
[url]http://www.nega.com.ua[/url]
[url]http://www.massage.biz.ua/[/url]
[url]http://www.body-massage.kiev.ua/[/url]
In appreciation of this very comprehensive and good list, would you mind sharing your comments FAST as I am flying in.
[QUOTE=Prosal]Lufthansa has direct flights to Kazan via Frankfurt.
;)[/QUOTE]
I know... I well know, usually they stop over in Samara... but Irish Lad was starting from Kiev....
IT
Hi,
I've tried angel massage (their site appears to be down at the moment) excellent and cheap but no sex, apartment in Gorky street if you want telephone no. pm me.
[QUOTE=Wallyally]I know you guys are more into the hard stuff, but has any of you tried any of these massage parlors in Kiev:
[url]http://www.absara-massage.com/[/url]
[url]http://www.angel-mas.kiev.ua/[/url]
[url]http://www.idzanami.com[/url]
[url]http://latina.rozvaga.com/contact.php?lang=&width=1024[/url]
[url]http://www.bagira.net.ua/[/url]
[url]http://www.miledi.com.ua[/url]
[url]http://www.nata.com.ua/[/url]
[url]http://www.paradise-kiev.com.ua[/url]
[url]http://www.thaimassage.kiev.ua/[/url]
[url]http://www.angelina.in.ua[/url]
[url]http://www.gloria.net.ua/[/url]
[url]http://www.bodymassageinkiev.narod.ru/[/url]
[url]http://www.massage.com.ua/[/url]
[url]http://www.izuminka.kiev.ua/[/url]
[url]http://www.orhideya.kiev.ua/[/url]
[url]http://www.rakuena.com/[/url]
[url]http://www.nega.com.ua[/url]
[url]http://www.massage.biz.ua/[/url]
[url]http://www.body-massage.kiev.ua/[/url]
In appreciation of this very comprehensive and good list, would you mind sharing your comments FAST as I am flying in.[/QUOTE]
Sevastopol1: I checked out their web site and all the girls there are naked. Did you try and invite them out? Did they at least finish with a "happy ending". Or was it simply a straight massage?
All in all, Kiev looks amazing to me, but very confusing even after RTFF.
If you don't read Russian there is an English language button on their page to toggle between the two languages, you can read all about the massages on offer!
Happy ending (lets just say it's the best £20 I've spent in a long time)?
[QUOTE=Forest]Sevastopol1: I checked out their web site and all the girls there are naked. Did you try and invite them out? Did they at least finish with a "happy ending". Or was it simply a straight massage?
All in all, Kiev looks amazing to me, but very confusing even after RTFF.[/QUOTE]
Does anyone have an update when exactly RP will close and be replaced by a new boat? It was supposed to happen sometime next year.
I see a lot of guys posting the going rates for the girls in terms of US Dollars. Is that the currency the ladies prefer, or are you just converting the amount for the sake of easy discussion?
Also, my plan is to pursue this until 10pm and if I can't make that play, I'll head over to River Palace and "punt"...that sounds like a strategy that could play out. What do y’all think?
If so, I've been trying to cull this forum for leads on good places to seek non/semi-pro talent. Can anyone suggest some good afternoon/early evening hang-outs for hot young ladies (I'm thinking 20yrs old or so)?
[QUOTE=Latitude Cruz]I see a lot of guys posting the going rates for the girls in terms of US Dollars. Is that the currency the ladies prefer, or are you just converting the amount for the sake of easy discussion?
Also, my plan is to pursue this until 10pm and if I can't make that play, I'll head over to River Palace and "punt"...that sounds like a strategy that could play out. What do y’all think?
If so, I've been trying to cull this forum for leads on good places to seek non/semi-pro talent. Can anyone suggest some good afternoon/early evening hang-outs for hot young ladies (I'm thinking 20yrs old or so)?[/QUOTE]
Cruz, most clubs do not really get going until at least Midnight. So there is no rush to race off to River Palace. Some of the girls there don't even turn up until 0100 at least. At 2200 you will have a limited supply at RP.
You can usually organise to have a date and finish at about 2300 if you strikeout and then have a pre party drink and then go off to the club of your choice.
[QUOTE=Alphamale]Cruz, most clubs do not really get going until at least Midnight. So there is no rush to race off to River Palace. Some of the girls there don't even turn up until 0100 at least. At 2200 you will have a limited supply at RP.
You can usually organise to have a date and finish at about 2300 if you strikeout and then have a pre party drink and then go off to the club of your choice.[/QUOTE]
Thanks Alpha.
Where's good trolling for non-pro's?
And USD$ is preferred or local$?
Any better bets than RP?
LC
The construction of the new boat is going to take longer than estimated therefore the River Palace will continue in its present format for at least another year. There are a lot of new girls hanging out there at the moment, unfortunately most of them rank between 5 to 7's.
[QUOTE=Delgado]Does anyone have an update when exactly RP will close and be replaced by a new boat? It was supposed to happen sometime next year.[/QUOTE]
Part One: Shopping for Sex
It was the breast of times, in was the *****st of times, it was the age of womanizing, it was the age of foolishness, it was the Spring of hope, it was the Fall of 2007… okay, okay, I will just get on with my tale of chasing tail in two cities – Kyiv and Moscow!
This was a long overdue trip, which originally I had thought would occur about a year ago but was twice rescheduled. The downside of that was the many torturous months of anticipation. The upside was that I discovered the ISG forum in the interim, which provided me with essential information and guidance.
I had never been to Moscow before and to Kyiv only once, where because of various constraints on my behaviour (in addition to my complete naiveté), my exploits were limited to poking one moderately skanky hotel girl in thigh-high white leather boots. Oh, and staying up all night on the Odessa-Kyiv train trying to talk my way into the bed of the bar waitress, a strategy fatally flawed by the fact that she spoke no English and I spoke no Russian.
My report will mostly be of interest to other newbies like myself, with no Russian language skills and minimal “game”. For background info, I am 49, ten pounds overweight, medium everything, and on the budget-conscious side of the great wallet divide. It also applies more for those looking to combine pursuit of pleasure with a business trip, than those who can devote their time and attention exclusively to hunting native poon.
In fact, combining business and pleasure was one my underlying strategies. I reasoned that if I could find the right girl, I could “hire” her as my interpreter during the day, and find other uses for her talented tongue each night! This worked to a certain extent, but was not the incentive plan I hoped it would be.
My first stop was Kyiv, where I had long been in communication with lovely young Valeria, whom I recruited off a bridal web-site. She seemed willing to serve as my guide and translator for me during the day and speak the language of love at night. In fact, I had been in touch with her for almost a year, since my first expected trip, which is far too long for talking to these girls.
It erodes your credibility to spin it out for so long, like you are not really serious (and they get lots of arm-chair Romeos contacting them on the web) or (worse) that you are not in control of your own fate. At the same time, it takes at least a few weeks to get through to these girls and build up some level of interest. Many of them do not have daily access to computers and have lots of messages to wade through from dating sites, so it may take a while to establish yourself as a serious contender worthy of prompt response.
Anyway, I had Valeria lined up and was willing to spend all my (quite limited) time with her. I know many guys on here believe that variety is the spice of life, and I do not disagree, but I wanted a sure thing and also preferred to get laid morning, noon and night this way, rather than spending all my time out hunting, and maybe coming home empty-handed. I was also able to use Valeria to find me an apartment and coordinate some meetings and meet me at the airport. She was not as reliable as I would have liked, but ultimately she did come through for me – in every way!
She met me at the airport and was almost as cute as pictured. She is 22, petite, brunette with a innocent/sexy face and low-riding tight jeans. She had arranged for the apartment agent to provide the airport transfer, which is a really good way of doing it, and took me to our apartment, a huge two-bedroom place ($150) just below the Maidan. The building and lobby were crappy, but the apartment itself was pretty good, as these things go, and the location was convenient.
In the early days I had made it quite clear to Valeria that I was there to mix business and pleasure, but we had never come to any precise arrangement. I was assuming that in addition to the straight business interpreter fee ($50 per day) I would pay her something additional each night (maybe a similar amount), plus wining and dining and some shopping (there had been specific mention of shoe-shopping). But our more recent emails had not been very romantic, so I was a little unclear on where we stood and what she was expecting from me. So I was pleasantly surprised when she stood in the middle of the apartment and said that she was mine for the next few days and what did I want to do?
Well, I wanted to eat and to lay in some supplies. So we postponed pleasure for a few more hours of business and picked up some wine and some things for breakfast – always a good sign. She took me to her favourite restaurant (“Swing” - a really nice place) and we came back to “our apartment” for après supper treats!
With a fair bit of wine inside her and very little prompting, she revealed that what she really wanted was:
a) to be tied up and forcibly taken
b) to play virginal/naughty school girl
c) to pretend to be a cheap slutty hooker who would do ANYTHING for $20
d) to join me in a threesome with a big-breasted blonde!
This conversation of course is all taking place in bed as I fuck her, so I am figuring this is a pretty good date so far, by my standards. I mean, what’s not to like? Okay, so I am not into bondage, but the rest of the list I a willing to help her out with! She asks what my fantasies are and all I can add is fucking a cute 22 year-old, which I am doing at that very moment! Remembering Dr. Skank’s sage advice, I finish up having her give me a BBBJ CIM, to establish her place in the food chain.
While this sounds like heaven, and much of it is, there is a downside – tiny tits. This girl has the flattest chest I have ever seen on anyone past puberty. She is really cute and sexy, and a nice body and great legs but these tiny tits. Frankly this makes it hard for me to get the heart really pumping. The upside is that pretending her tits are fine and tasty and playing with them really drives her wild!
The other problem is that we have had too much to drink. This was great while it was fuelling the fantasy discussion, but not quite as good when it comes to going a second round, or to getting a decent night’s sleep. And then in the morning she was too hung over for fun and had to go home to mother to sleep it off and get some medicine. I tried to get the Jacuzzi going, but to no avail – another good lesson – just because an apartment is equipped with something, does not mean it works.
That evening is shopping time. We start out looking for a school-girl skirt, but end up getting a more practical (but still sexy) outfit. So this turns out to be the deal – shopping for sex. That’s what she gets out of the relationship – shopping – and in exchange I get sex. This is okay with me, because I like the idea of a quasi-girlfriend experience more than straight P4P.
The only problem is, this is a bit too much like a real girlfriend experience. I mean, in my experience, girlfriends are not all sexy lingerie and good-morning blow-jobs. The same is true with Valeria – she is moody and wants to sleep when I want to play and so on. She is not as clingy and demonstrative in her affection as I hoped she would be, nor as appreciative of the things I buy her, as she should be.
The next day I had to go out of town all day on a business trip and she refused to join me, because of the danger. Okay, going to Chernobyl is not everyone’s idea of a fun date. Still, this really pissed me off, because one of the reasons I wanted to use her as my interpreter in the first place, was because she has an academic background that would be useful in my work, and justifies me hiring her over any other girl and even bringing her along on trips to other cities. I had envisioned her keeping me warm in remote places or on long train rides to inspect facilities. Now the first time I ask her to join me on one of these trips she chickens out. This does not bode well. Even in FSU countries, young and nubile nuclear physicist fuck-bunnies are not a dime a dozen!
That evening we played “cheap hooker”, but without the benefit of alcohol to lubricate things it was not as wildly exciting as it should have been. Still, spanking her while she sucked me vigorously was a new and enriching experience for me! We never did get shoe-shopping so I gave her some shoe money, which actually made her a moderately expensive hooker.
The next day is another business meeting, this time with Valeria along as my official interpreter, and she does a good job of it and I think is beginning to feel comfortable in this role. Then it’s off to the airport and farewell kisses.
So overall, Valeria was a bit of a disappointment. She was cute and sexy and compliant and has some great fantasies I would like to take advantage of, but with her little tits and lack of real enthusiasm, I am not sure she is worthwhile. And the cost-benefit analysis is not where I would like it to come out – I probably could have had better sex for less money if I had simply called up GIA every night. Also, I never did get to River Palace, which I wanted to experience!
Still, I may continue to use her for business purposes, but next time I will not plan on using her as my main fuck-bunny. However, the idea of bringing her along to help me troll for a big-breasted blonde has a lot of appeal…