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FYI to all who wish to travel to Ukraine who are Americans looking to meet Ukrainian women or go *****mongering!
Effective July 1, 2002 the Ukrainian Government introduced visa free travel for stays of up to eight days for American citizens arriving at the international airports of Simferopol and Odessa and at the international port of Odessa. Travel must originate abroad and end at these ports of entry without any other initial stop in Ukraine. Travelers must also depart Ukraine from the same port used at the time of arrival.
Straight from the US State Departments website. Check it out for yourself!
Was planning a long weekend to Odessa in June, can anyone tell me whats the scene there, good Hotels etc, esp Hotels with working girls. Joe
Hi guys,
I am planning a 7 days trip to the Ukraine in August with a couple of friends for the sole reason of mongering. Since none of us has ever been to the Ukraine, here are some questions:
1) We will either go to Odessa or Simferopol. Which is the better place to go to ?
2) Is renting an apartment in either of these places a good idea. There are adds on the internet saying it is just 40 bucks per day. Are these adds serious and are these kind of apartments clean ?
3) Is it true that the local amateurs are very keen on Western Europeans and therefore very easy to get to bed ?
4) Which are the most famous places for hoockers in the above mentioned places ?
5) How about normal bars/discos with amateurs ? Are there (m)any ?
6) What are the "rules" in these places ? Do you approach a girl yourself or wait until you get a signal from her, resp. do they approach you ?
Thanks a lot in advance
As no-one else has written anything - I'll give some info albeit dated.
I went to Odessa about 5 years ago. There was a wonderful outdoor disco in the Summer you can't miss it, it's on the seafront. A place for scoring chicks.
In the hotels there were always hookers floating around. Some were surprising expensive ($100 a night) for this economic backwater.
Anyway, you are better off going down near the port. I can't remember the directions. But near the port there was a little street which was quite steep. There were a number of night clubs and bars on this street. In one place I remember there were about 15 girls dancing on the dance floor and hardly any guys. To cut to chase I went back to one of the hookers houses - I paid $20 or $30 and stayed the night!
I just remember her toilet was in the same room as her kitchen. Yuk!
Isn't it strange that so few Western guys go to Odessa, which, if I read "russian-wife" pages on the internet ("love-me" tours, etc) , is certainly a beautiful and pleasant place ?
Any idea, somebody ?
reporting from odessa, but with much to tell about other cities, such as kharkov, donetsk, and mariupol. i hope it's okay, but i'll keep it all here under the odessa forum area...
first, i've had a great time... maybe even the best of my life. but second, without some russian language you will never see what i've seen. period, over and out. there is no organization for foreigners like you will find in moscow, and what little you will find in the hotels is over priced and worthless. in kharkov, i spent the first night in a hotel before i could find a flat. they sent 4 girls to my room and only one was even close to a 7 or 8. they said she was 150, and i thought grivna. they acted surprised and said, "dollars of course!" i laughed them out of my room. the next morning the bell man was not real happy with me, but i told him my opinion of his game and he slunk off.
then i found a great flat, $40 a night in the very center. just walking the streets, in three days, i scored more girls than could fill night flight in moscow. it was so easy i was blown away. i just smiled and said hello to two model types pushing a baby carriage.. god's honest truth.. and they joined me that night for a few drinks and a threesome. longest legs i've seen in a long time, too.
so many girls coming to attend university, and all of them needing money. the beauty is off the richter scale. just be careful, because there are so many young girls you might make a mistake and pick one ****, and of course you wouldn't want to do that. i would stay away from the cheaper bars and nightclubs because they are filled with girls from 12 years old and up, getting smashed on cheap beer.
there are no services worth calling unless you want to pay premium, and in that case moscow is better. but if you can speak russian at least conversational, and you are willing to buy a girl a drink and be polite, the sky is the limit.
i found two girls i liked, treated them good to a meal and some drinks, and recruited them to help me find other pleasures. they took to it like a game, and we had a lot of fun.
they took me to an "elite" strip club - 10$ door charge, where we entered and found ourselves to be the only guests. the room was pretty small, only 12 chairs to sit in and the pole in the center of the room. we spent 3 hours watching 5 girls dance, lap dance, and talk with us for the $10 entry fee. the girls are not allowed to go home with customers, but i slipped my phone number in the panties of an 18 year old and she called the next morning.
she was a 9.7 and i never give any girl a perfect 10. this girl had a body, and if evolution is true she descended from rabbits. she wore me out and then some, bare back, cim, anal, and even drank some [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord103][CodeWord103][/url] which really blew my mind. all in all, most of the girls live with a slave mentality. they live to please.
mariupol was more of the same with even less organization. just walking the streets, visiting the few clubs is all it takes. speak english out loud, spend a little money, and you will make eye contact and go after it.
odessa, a beautiful city, is filled with beauty -- perhaps more beautiful girls here than kharkov, but more money floating around too. i'm worn out, but so glad i learned russian....
Michael Gage:
I am just curious about a few things. When you meet these girls do you tell them honestly that you are in town only for a few days? And how do you dress when you walk the streets? We need to dress up a little bit to attract the ladies, but as a side effect we might attract trouble. Please keep going with your breathtaking coverage of Ukraine. Best of luck!
Michael Gage,
I will be going to Kharkov in February and will be staying at the Hotel Kharkov. Can you provide a list of places where not to go and where to go? Also, any info on actual costs would be greatly appreciated as well.
Michael
Hi Michael Gage - I'll be Odessa the 1st wk of Sept.
Did you get any phone numbes for girls in Odessa? If so I'd love to have them. IN Odessa were there problems with bringing girls into hotels and is that why you got a flat? Any links?
Guys - from what I can tell there is nothing in Odessa like this Kiev site of independents...
http://www.mdosug.ru/moscow.php
I could fly one out but it's better of course to see them, uh, in the flesh first... I guess I'll just have to be adventurous like MG.
Rendorseg
Hi, I will be making a big tour around Eastern Europe, also planning to stay in Kiev, Odessa and any other town that might be worth a visit. I am looking to get in touch with some locals who can also speak English or German, who have good communicative skills trying to make some money or find a new well paid job. Please get in touch with me or perhaps you can give me a referal of someone trustworthy who might be able to help me out in some of those towns finding some young girls, uni students, semi pros etc,
puxilove@hotmail.com
Was in Odessa for a few days this week.
No street action to speak of. One or two girls walknig around the centre for a long time, but when I approached them and asked if they spoke English, they replied "Yes, we do" ... and walked quickly off!!
On steps down to port, as previously reported, also found no action.
Ask taxi drivers hanging around the centre (by McDonald's) for a girl. They will make a telephone call, and in five minutes a car arrives with two or three girls to choose from. Aged around 22-28, 5-7. Asked for US$60 for two hours .. will settle for $50.
Nothing special, bad attitude, all smoke cigarettes, too much make-up.
Better, to visit the discos (in Summer go to "Arcadia", the strip of beach about 8Kms from the centre, Hrv15 by taxi), where there are a lot of open-air discos, with some nice girls in them.
Or, during the daytime, just smile and start talking to some of the girls walknig around the center .... you'll eventually be lucky, and it will not cost you anything apart from maybe a few drinks and a pizza!
Will be in Odessa this week - Wed - Sat.
Any action on street ? I was here in 1999 - plentiful!
Any friends / recommendations on who to see or NOT !
Thanks!
When I was in Odessa in 1999 there was a corner where 30+ girls worked "under supervision" and it was like Take Out! Great!
I can't remember the location?
ANY HELP ON THIS BOARD?
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I stayed in a nice flat close to the center, but I sure didn't see any "take out" corners. There was another American guy who had been there for a week, he told me the only sure thing he had found was the big hotel by the seaport. He went up to the top floor where the bar was, and said there were about 8 girls. All pros, 5's and 6's, and expensive. I think since he was American the girl took him for $200 for the night. He said she was about 25, very mechanical. That's more than Kiev! Ridiculous!
I'll be back there in the spring.
I think if you just get in a taxi, the driver would know where your take out spot has moved to, or he could call a service. Just don't budge over $35, which is the normal local price, plus you could give the taxi guy some hrivna for making the calls. Maybe give him 30 or 40 hr.
If you find that place again where they are hanging around, please share!