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Hi Prokofiev
Your questions are all excellent ones and I'll try to answer them the best I can without getting too specific about my personal details.
The agency has women of ALL ages and in fact they have more women in their photo albums at the agency than on the web site.
But again, the quality and beauty of the women available is far less than what you find in the general population.
You can meet as many women as you like. There are no limits. If you like to meet 100 women, they will set that up for you. Initially you always meet at the house, which is located in calle Sacramonte in the Chapalita zone. However, what you do after that is up to the two of you. You can continue the date that same day(go to a restaurant, etc), or meet another day-of course if the two of you like each other. It is an introduction agency, and most of the girls are legitimate(there are a few flakes of course, and as I said a few will not even show up at the time that they are supposed to meet you). I think a marriage can follow, if that's what the two people are interested in.
As far as the younger guys doing better at the malls, etc. Well, it's a little tricky. The women of Guadalajara are the most beautiful women in the world(if some one knows of a city with prettier girls, let me know so I can go there immediately!), but they are certainly not as desperate for gringos as their counterparts in Cuba, Brasil, etc. Mexico is of course a poor country, but the economy actually is not too bad right now in Guadalajara, and people seem to be doing quite well. So picking up girls will take some work on your part.
To sum up: if you are in your 50's and up, or if you're not too choosy, or if you have a very limited time and limited Spanish, then go ahead and use the agency by all means. You'll get your money's worth. Otherwise, I would save my money(your total costs with the agency will probably come out to about 1000$) and try to meet some of the girls on my own.
I hope I answered your questions. If not, let me know. And thanks for the tip about yupi.com; I'll look into it. J.G.
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Hey guys, yes I am alive. I was actually writing my report in an Internet Cafe in Mexico City when there was a sudden hailstorm and the power went out. Damn!
Anyway, I was in GDL for a month. I visited Jet Set 4 times where they charged me 700-800 pesos. That is pretty steep especially if you are used to Tijuana. I never found the famed Valentino's that Prokofiev mentioned. Does it exist? Jet Set had women between below-average-looking and slightly-above-average-looking, but no stunning beauties. I only went there repeatedly because I knew how to get there. There was one freak tehre who liked to get nasty and do almost anything but I started to feel a little dirty with her and started to rethink my activities. Anyway, I also went to Griego's once (Av. Pedro Moreno) but full service was not offered. 320 pesos for massage and HJ and 500 total to touch her, also. I have had better times in TJ, honestly. I also went to Candy's Girls strip bar in Zapopan (near Wal-Mart on Vallarta and Rafael Sanzio) and lined up a stripper to meet me after her shift ended for $100 U.S. for 3 hours of sex. When I showed up at 6am to pick her up she never came out. I was pissed since I woke my ass up after sleeping only 2.5 hours.
The true beauty of GDL are the common women. Toward the end of my stay I dated 2 girls at the same time who worked at IMAC. They were fairly cute, but there are about 3-5 girls who work there who are just stunning. I am talking about 20- to 25-yr-olds. I am under 30, just for reference. IMAC is full of eye candy, but as mentioned several months ago, many are too young. I also met one girl in a bar who I could have been with (according to her) as a boyfriend but she had just broken up with her boyfriend and was recovering. In any case I went out with her and her friend a lot. I dated a couple other girls. I dated more girls in one month there than I did all year in the USA. The girls in GDL really ARE better looking than in Mexico City or anywhere else I have seen with Mexican women and they really ARE open in general.
Thanks to Yupi.com, I am now in Mexico City staying with a great girl I met through there. I also met one in Los Angeles before I left and have one lined up upon my return in a week and a half. Thank you Yupi! The best way to meet girls on Yupi is to sign up for 3 months for $30. You will eventually get multiple hot girls writing you and it is cheaper than the pay-per-contact option.
I hope I haven't forgotten anything since the WSG was down during my whole stay in GDL and I am just trying to remember everything! Good luck, mongers!
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Dylock,
Glad you enjoyed everything. Too bad about Valentinos - it's in the Yellow Pages! but is a little hard to find. Only 3 blocks from IMAC!
The Yupi.com link has changed my life. Thanks for that one. I'm leaving for Barcelona next week and have 9 different ladies who want a date. I'm just hoping for 1 or 2 good ones . . .We will see!
But I disagree about the $30 option. Why not just pay the $2 per contact and pick and choose who you want? Otherwise you end up hearing from girls in Colunbia, Peru and Venezuela when you wanted Guadalajara. I wrote to 11 women that interested me and 9 replied! And my Spanish has really improved writing so many letters. Gracias amigo . . .
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Went to Kaoz the other day. Not too bad of a place. It did not have a cover charge. Beers are 40 pesos each and a lap dance is 150 pesos and to buy the girl a drink is 100 pesos. I think the time the girl stays with you depends on the girl. Fairly good selection of girls there. My friend and I each got a dance. He spent 45 bucks and got a BJ. I settled for one dance and got the usual touching and what not. Girl "suggested" we go upstairs but for 2000 pesos. Yeah right. The place actually wasnīt too bad, iīd recommend it but if you want sex Iīd go someplace else. The only major annoyance that I had, was that every fucking person in the club was asking for a tip. Even the people that didnīt do shit. That got fairly annoying. Iīd rather not tip somebody to stand and watch me get a lap dance. Iīd recommend you know at least a little spanish if you went there. A few of the waiters knew broken english and i think a few girls as well. If an estetica isnīt your thing this place isnīt too bad.
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Hate for my first message to be a request, not a report, but...
Going to Guadalajara tomorrow night. Will be in around 10pm, leaving next afternoon around 3:30PM. Want to make the best of it.
Most interested in esteticas, but there aren't any direct recommendations on the new forum, and the archives aren't available at the moment.
Staying downtown (I think) at the Crowne Plaza.
Any recommendations would be appreciated. I'll contribute ASAP!
Jav
PS Message to slickwings@yahoo.com would be fine, too.
Thanks!!
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Jav . . .
I posted a report about Valentino's Estetica back in Feb. Has several locations and are listed in the Yellow Pages. I went to the downtown location which is 4-5 blocks from the cathedral. I liked it because of the price. 350 =$35 for a sauna, massage + FS. A hell of a deal in my book. The women are not beauties and the rooms are small, but it worked for me. If you are looking for beautiful young girls, try some of the others JetSet, etc. Looking at $65-$100 and I'm not sure the women are better since I haven't been there. For me, a GFE is more likely with a 34 yo woman with 3 kids than a 19 yo fashion model. So for me cheaper can also be better. I had a great time at Valentinos, 3 or 4 great times in fact. Good Luck
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JetSet--I repeat my assertion that Jet Set is fairly expensive for the quality of girls they have.
Valentino's--I looked in the phone book and never found it under esteticas. I asked one group of taxi drivers downtown about it and they did not know of it.
Prokofiev,
De nada por la información...You are correct that if you have very specific criteria or location it may be worth the $2 per contact option. I bought 10 such coupons and used 9 of them. However, my results were very weak. A couple wrote back, and they took a very long time to do so. I no longer have contact with any of them. It is because you contact them out of the blue when they may have forgotten they even have a profile. Their interest level was low from the start. I only reply to about 5% of those who have written me, so it is not totally surprising to get a low turnout. But I am glad it has worked for you. Good luck with your trip.
I guess I prefer the $30 option because I know that anybody who writes to me is already interested and I do not have to fret about wasting my money on someone who won't write back to me. There were enough responses that I was getting some good-looking ones occasionally. You have to be careful of the visa seekers though. I am pretty excited to meet one of these girls when I return home to the US this Friday. She is pretty cute in her photos. Meanwhile I am spending my last days with my horny girlfriend in Mexico City.
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Thank you both for the good info.
For some reason, the archives are not available, leaving me feeling quite naked on my first journey to GDL, especially with such a small window of opportunity.
First trip, I'll try jetset, unless I can find Valentinos in the phone book (I'll try "Masages")
See Ya'
Jav
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Actually, look under "esteticas." I heard "High Class" is good but did not go there. Heard it is high price, too, like 1000 pesos!
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for esteticas [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] and jet set are the only ones worth going to in $60 range. the $30 range brings more choices but spotty quality. i personally love [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url]. deja vu in the intercontinental is good but too expensive again $100. the girls of [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] are as good or better.
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all right, guys. there and back already. did a hell of a lot of recon', considering i arrived around 11pm and left around 4pm...
went to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url], per everyone's recommendations and because i could walk there. at 11am, there were roughly 5-6 girls, which was plenty, because i couldn't remember but 2 names after the latin-american curtsi they do for you. i chose tanya, mid 20's, nice figure, pleasant smile.
planned to use jacuzzi, but there was standing water in it, and it scared me. shower was nice. she came in about 1/2 way through. talked as best we could for a couple of minutes, and established that i would like a nice massage and hj finish. no discussion of price or anything.
she gave a nice massage for a while, then i gave her a better one. a very nice, non-rushed 45 minute session. she is a very nice girl, but i would probably try somebody new next time, hoping for a little better massage. but, maybe not, who knows? though we seemed to have a good rapport, she did not seem interested in visiting my hotel next trip.
price 350 pesos to the house, 450 to her, which i thought was kind of steep. it didn't seem like a "gringo cash grab," just the price she charges, but i could be wrong.
thanks to all who gave information on this forum. some information:
deja voo: closed. looked all around the intercontinental, and finally asked conciere. too bad, but too high priced, anyway.
jetset: ave. mexico 2071a, 3615-3451
[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] lazaro cardenas 2934, 3122-4918
valentino: justo sierra 2642, 3616-6320
colon 238, 3613-1600
ave. hidalgo 1758, 3616-9173
a lot of escort agencies in same section of yellow pages. anybody every try?
thanks again -- happy hunting!
jav
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question, anybody have the word on Thailand and the prices. the website never works. Just curious if it's an estetica or a escort service and the quality. gracias
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i checked this place out in april when i was taking some language courses in colonia chapalita.i would definitely stay away. the day i visited in the afternoon there were about 6 twenty year old guys hanging out in the reception area,this seemed unusual to me,since they weren't customers but were just hanging out. this made me feel uncomfortable. every estetica i have been to in mexico only has an older woman or man running things.never a bunch of people hanging out in the reception area.the 2 women working that afternoon were both 2-3 in my book,both overweight,mid 30's and unattractive.i had the manager give me a tour and he seemed pretty desperate for business and the price was 650 pesos for full sex. i think if you are looking in the lower price estetica price range (400-600 pesos for fs) go to high class on lazaro cardenas near [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url],this place always has an arch of orange & purple ballons out front. hey ups any luck with the girls at your schhol? i have always had pretty good success with amateurs under the following conditions,not living with parents,and either divorced or single mothers.things develop alot faster with these women than then the knock-out 24 year old virgin that is only going to give you a case of the blue balls because she has to be home by midnight. there are a ton of beautiful single moms walking around guadalajara. buena suerte,amigos
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So Thailand isnīt that good huh?? I see ads for it all the time in some magazine called ocio that has all the clubs, bars and what not in the city. I actually ended up dropping the one girl at my school. I am talking to a tapatia right now, except she lives with the parents and that is kind of a pain, but i have plenty of time here. No worries. How was your trip to GDL renegade??
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Ola UPS, my trip was fine and in fact I am returning To Guad on the 29th for 10 days.I went to Leon and Aguascalientes last time but I would not recommend either for the hobby,the quality of women you see in these cities do not compare to Guadalajara or Monterey.These cities are very industrial and the women are less stylish.A couple of other places you may want to check out for amateurs in Guadalajara: Copacabana is a latin dance club on Lopez Mateos about 1 mile south of Plaza del Sol.I was there with my girlfriend on a Saturday and there were many available Tapatias.The crowd was about 25-45 age group.They have a live band and it is well lit and not crowded so it is very conducive to checking out the ladies.The second place is called Kookookaru and is also on LopezMateos about 100 yards south of the Hotel Intercontinental.This is a Chippendale type club that admits men at midnight,I have had luck meeting several women here.At midnight they have house dance music and the women are ready after watching the male strip show.Good Luck with your tapatia but if you don't score after 5-6 dates move on because there are penty of women in Guad. buena suerte,renegade