Wrong Info in Angeles City
i have to say that after reading the reports there is so much that is said about ac that is just not trure.
1, . they always give good blow jobs
nothing could be farther from the truth all over the philippines- the girls get very little and before they work in the bar, they are usually pimped out 2 or 3 times already to locals in "the area", where most live in a mamsans house. they get as little as about $2 bucks from locals that only make $3 bucks a day. therefore it is known that the pussy that is being had is usually pretty used and none.- none of the girls like to give head knowing it has most likely been uncovered in a trash dump.
2. ac is the best place in the philippines blahh blahh blahh
ac is not only the biggest scam it is also the most boring placed you can go.
they try and scam you on everyting from drinks. to chery girl scams. if you do not ask and make sure of everything you are getting they will say they are a cherry girl and no sex. they then will try ad head back to the bar to scam some more on drinks. ask first and if you have a problem do not be shy. go to the bar and let it be known you feel scammed. do not take a half refund etc-- insist on all your money back or the bars will scam you.
3. dave fisher is no longer in ac. dave fisher is probably the reason ac is so corrupt. he has totaly screwed the place up, and is now paying officials in subic, accoridng to reports on manhy other sites. to screw that up. people who have beein his bars have been in set ups with **** girls, sites that he was partnered with in ac that were run by a character named trance had protected reports of a marine being set up and charged with [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url]. it is my feeling they may hav even known of what was going on there---
the poor guy barfined agirl from a bar. wich means she is being rente for sex. and then the next day she claimed [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url]. she said she was raped by sooo many guys, could not even remember where they had gone etc-- even though she was a bar ***** and paid to oleave to have sex they convicted the marined and dave and his cohorts from the local chat site defended the conviction of that marine on the site.
stay away from any pace owned by dve fisher
mo's.lollipop, vooddoo and many others in subi and his hotels there as well have been known to have people overcharged, search there luggage and even stop them coming in to there room with a bottle of water to say you can't drin it unless you bougght it in the hotel. then call the police if you get upset
long story short--- of all the places to monger. why on earth would you choose the worst in a place where they are setting people up legft and right. one guy got charged with posession of marijuana for buying a pack of sigs of a street hawker. and he didn't even have any. jsut a street set up to scam his money.
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reply to [CodeWord116] bunny
sounds like you had fun-
a caution though from your report
girls going hot and cold and sending text messages arguing etc are a big red flag.
metting her mom was a invitation to meet the family and her barangay offical. they then generaly will test to see if you have money etc- they then are known to set you up, knowing you have spoken with their barangay official and he has told you he can get you out of tight spots just call them.
what usually happens here is the start of a set up that will end up costing you thousands. they have been known to try and start fights. claim you hit them and call the cops then show heated text messages to prove you were threatingin and abusive blahh blahh blahh.
the philippines is much different. every cop sees these as opportunitys to make $$$. most girls are already working with the cops. and they will continue and the cop will let you know that in the philippines you have to prove you did not do it etc-- they will tell you pay off or go to jail.
sometimes jail can be bad or good. if you are lucky they may take it easy and jsut charge a littel more for the involvement of the other cops now. usually thsi is now spread and everyoe involved wants a piece.
not saying she was doig this. but fellas cmon a bar girl is a bar girl. and they are ther to make money and could care less if you get thrown in jail and deported and listed a [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord126][CodeWord126][/url]. sex offender. woman beater.- whatever they can claim and semi-prove to get the most $$$
Respond to Black Angst - Philippines Coruption
black angst,
i appreciate your post as i know you are well intending - lol
i mostly appreciate you challenging my acuracy of information so i will easily prove my post are indeed fact and that is easily doable in one sentence proven by a worldwide coruption report.
the philippines was voted the most corupt country in asia by the asian leaders.
this is no secret and has been that way for many generations now. the facts i have posted are indeed true- the bars that are owned by dave fisher are indeed his bars. trance is indeed his friend and anyone who has read that local board has seen the mass bannings of anyone that posts being scammed in his bars.
further. it is far from the exception. in fact most studies have found that at least 40 % of foriegners visiting the philippines report some sort of mistake or overcharging or in the case of one recent visitor actually got shot just walking into his hotel room. on or about mrach of last year the hotel so many have included in their posts. the americana. was robbed at gun point and the robbers went from room to room collecting the goods.
the country is overthrown almost every year by someone that wants to control it. and they usually have no problem taking over government facilities.
intel recently pulled all of their operations out of the phillipiines citing corution as the main reason.
so i do indeed wish you the best if that is where you are going but do not fool yourself into thinking that a bar girl saying she loves you. that has been hammered already 4 or 5 times for as little as $2 bucks or a cp card, by loclas and expats that she calls daily before work. when she tells you that she needs money for here sister or mother or whatever anstarts arguments by text is doing it becuase she loves your handsome self.
i used to go every three months and do indeed have family that resides there, and can tell you fm every one i have spoken with there is alwasy a attempt on every one that visits there to scam in some way. bars do it openly and often. especially if you are the only customer as has been reported is the curent situation in many bars. this is among the least of yoru worries.
on the outside girls have been setting up customers saying. " i will bring my friend over she neeeds some sleep", then after they arive a cop is banging on the door claiming he got a report of a **** girl. the girls may be from a bar or someone you have known in the past, but the friend is claiming **** and they then start the pcess of seperating you from money.
(this is again not happening to everyone, but is happening and beiing reported 2 or 3 times a monmth on many sites, and for every one reported it has most likely happened 100 times)
the one that is often taxed upon visitors and expats living there is the ticket scam. tourists are sold by hotel counters, or shops, on the ideal of renting a scooter to get them around. they are pulled over by the cops and told for some reason they went the wrong way, or don't have the correct papers etc-- that they need to take the bike and impound it and it could cist several hundred to get back.--ofcourse then usually for about 1000 to 1500 pesos it is handled on spot. (this is not just limited to the philippines but is a common occurance in most asian destinations)
so my freind again thankyou for giving me a voice to show my posts are indeed no flame. yet a true attempt to keep the unsespecting from falling prey by these unscrupulous owners and scammers. so that there vacation may be as enjoyable as possible.
may i ask what is your motivation for posting, as it seems that ther are so many other posts you could reply to that are indeed positive, yet you seem to want to give mine the only credit to reply to?
good luck. and pardon the typo as i am on a laptop now and in between things.
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positive experience in AC?
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Wrong Info:
Fine, you made your point! But now I am wondering if there is any positive experience you would like to share with us? Just pure curiousity!
Cheers!
Hesekiels
Notes on Cebu, Manila, AC
Fair enough point taken. But understand the reason for the post was to caution readers and people who have never been of the current situation in AC Philippines. As it has reached a fever point to where many bar owners are even considering shutting down because of even the corruption being forced upon them, bribes, and scams.
I can post many good experiences in the Philippines. However caution that if you are not willing to question, ask, and be forthright, then you are most likely going to get targeted for things like drink overcharging and girl run outs, etc. They prey on the meek that do not ask. Just as in the states the sucker in the club gets the worst and pays the most: I often go in and do not even get a lap dance and bang hookers on a regular basis for less than I would have spent on 1 VIP visit.
Ok. For the good times;
Cebu is my favorite and of course the Silver Dollar is my fav bar there. The Reason I like Cebu city is because you do get out and get around more with more to do. As well if you go down by the Mercedes Hotel there are many so called Managers. LOL. That are selling the young girls from the apartments that house them in closet sized rooms. For as little as 3 to 500 pesos short time. This is a starting point and they will try and bargain from there. But you can get a nice tight young girl for 300 pesos at times.
The down part of Cebu is things are spread out, they have lots of bars that charge a premium and are wayyy to expensive, and the drip is rampant as in all areas of the Philippines.-- but the woman are leeps and bounds better than anything you will find in AC and the people are more laid back.
Last but far from least. I have never had any girl in Cebu try and claim Cherry girl after I bought her a drink or bar fined her. The same goes for Manila. In Manila the cheep option can be had readily at LA Cafe and that would suite me fine over fighting in every bar of AC to keep from getting overcharged on drinks
AC. Notes\\ there are few things to be said on a positive note. There can be good times had as long as you stay away from the lower Fields Bars.- aka TYPHOONS the absolute worst. Blue Nile famous for runners and rumored that mamas train girls to be runners. Stinky Nasty Dirty Duck. A big Dump Truck. Dollhouse has some of the ugliest girls I have ever seen and charges more than most. And so on for all the bars on lower fields.
Travel around and up by checkpoint and the bars get better. Although closing earlier. I tend to like the "stampede as my all time favorite", although there have even been some negative reports from there as to the girls attitudes changing etc.
The food is overpriced and they consider you trapped in AC and Subic. As well as there have been so many reports on other boards of people having serious problems, it just is not worth it In My Humble Opinion.
There are many other places in the world I have gone, and continue to go, and I hate to see anyone waste their time on a place that is truly a hunk of junk. The beds for example in AC you will find to be horrendous in all but the very expensive hotels. In all other cities in the Philippines you can still get decent room and bed for less than $40.not AC.
As always if you are looking for love, a bar girl is not the place to be looking. So many service personnel have sent money, done favors, etc, for adds they responded to on the internet, just to find out the girl they thought she was is far from true. Don’t you fall into that category.
Fair enough point taken. But understand the reason for the post was to caution readers and people who have never been of the current situation in AC Philippines. As it has reached a fever point to where many bar owners are even considering shutting down because of even the corruption being forced upon them, bribes, and scams.
I can post many good experiences in the Philippines. However caution that if you are not willing to question, ask, and be forthright, then you are most likely going to get targeted for things like drink overcharging and girl run outs, etc. They prey on the meek that do not ask. Just as in the states the sucker in the club gets the worst and pays the most: I often go in and do not even get a lap dance and bang hookers on a regular basis for less than I would have spent on 1 VIP visit.
Ok. For the good times;
Cebu is my favorite and of course the Silver Dollar is my fav bar there. The Reason I like Cebu city is because you do get out and get around more with more to do. As well if you go down by the Mercedes Hotel there are many so called Managers. LOL. That are selling the young girls from the apartments that house them in closet sized rooms. For as little as 3 to 500 pesos short time. This is a starting point and they will try and bargain from there. But you can get a nice tight young girl for 300 pesos at times.
The down part of Cebu is things are spread out, they have lots of bars that charge a premium and are wayyy to expensive, and the drip is rampant as in all areas of the Philippines.-- but the woman are leeps and bounds better than anything you will find in AC and the people are more laid back.
Last but far from least. I have never had any girl in Cebu try and claim Cherry girl after I bought her a drink or bar fined her. The same goes for Manila. In Manila the cheep option can be had readily at LA Cafe and that would suite me fine over fighting in every bar of AC to keep from getting overcharged on drinks
AC. Notes\\ there are few things to be said on a positive note. There can be good times had as long as you stay away from the lower Fields Bars.- aka TYPHOONS the absolute worst. Blue Nile famous for runners and rumored that mamas train girls to be runners. Stinky Nasty Dirty Duck. A big Dump Truck. Dollhouse has some of the ugliest girls I have ever seen and charges more than most. And so on for all the bars on lower fields.
Travel around and up by checkpoint and the bars get better. Although closing earlier. I tend to like the "stampede as my all time favorite", although there have even been some negative reports from there as to the girls attitudes changing etc.
The food is overpriced and they consider you trapped in AC and Subic. As well as there have been so many reports on other boards of people having serious problems, it just is not worth it In My Humble Opinion.
There are many other places in the world I have gone, and continue to go, and I hate to see anyone waste their time on a place that is truly a hunk of junk. The beds for example in AC you will find to be horrendous in all but the very expensive hotels. In all other cities in the Philippines you can still get decent room and bed for less than $40.not AC.
As always if you are looking for love, a bar girl is not the place to be looking. So many service personnel have sent money, done favors, etc, for adds they responded to on the internet, just to find out the girl they thought she was is far from true. Don’t you fall into that category.