Mister HIntriguing report on the parties.Do you think they would let in a quiet, respectful gaigun who is without hearing and can't speak?Just a thoughtEn~
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Mister HIntriguing report on the parties.Do you think they would let in a quiet, respectful gaigun who is without hearing and can't speak?Just a thoughtEn~
Hi there,Went to G-Style in Shibuya. (www.g-style.us) Hooked up with a cute spinner named Yuki and tried the basic course. Pleasant experience well within the envelope of these types of clubs, namely a bit of mutal masturbation, CBJ, Covered sumata, 69, DATY and AR. Price out the door for 60min was 16k. I had to check it out to provide a decent report.1) Japanese requirements - minimal, I called on phone and needed to understand the location and room number. (4th floor, 4-B). Then basically answered 'yes' (wakarimashite) to everything the guy said, even though I didn't understand about 80%.2) Directions - go from Hachiko exit across the street then turn left. When you get to the major intersection turn right and parallel route 246. Look for building that says ESP on the sign. It's also the Muscian's Institute building.3) Cleaner and the girls are cuter than the Shibuya Sex World location, but the mileage is lower IMO. FS may or not be an option, I'm not sure if I want to spend 2 or 3 times here to find out. Though Chinatsu looks like fun for 1 or 2 tries.Update: Went to Gotanda to try the YuYu1 - called and asked if gaijiin were ok. They responded that I could not play there. Would like to try Paichu, but probably need to go the first time with a Japanese member. Given that it's now low season to fly to China (less than 250$), I'll save my money and fly to BJ for a weekend and have 5x the fun for the same price!
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Rankou/orgy Parties:I have participated 3 times to Orgy parties in Meguro, Iidabashi and Shinjuku. I agree with Mister H:-don't think of participating if you don't speak Japanese, I would even say a very good Japanese.- Communication is essential as it is orgy parties: people going there are not looking for only sex but something more.- I have been really well treated and been a kind of attraction.- Papa-san has been really helpful.- I haven't felt any stress the first time, Japanese people there were a bit cold at first but the 30 min introduction are necessary.- usually, it was a 2 to 1 ratio. DOn't trust the number of participants written in the website (BBS), because it is wrong.Today's party was really great: 8 guys, 4 girls (7 to 9 looking).I felt "in love" with one of the girl named Eri. Great body, good manners, good FS and BBBJ, we spent 25 min just two of us.I have never been allowed to CIM (Mister H, what about your parties?)In 2h30, I could had 5 FS/BBBJ sessions. One girl's technique was the best I have ever had.Anyway, I don't think I will go to Pink Salon or health clubs anymore. For 20K, FS/BBBJ with at least four girls!Manners are really IMPORTANT there.Actually, to watch and being watched during a session is quite nice. No taboo, at home ambiance.MISTER H, why don't we share our sources? Contact me at [blue][Email address deleted by Admin][/blue][size=-2][u]EDITOR's NOTE[/u]: [blue]Posting of this report was delayed pending [u]removal of email addresses in the text[/u]. To avoid delays in future reports, please do not post email addresses in the Forum. Instead, please use the Forum's Private Messaging system to communicate directly with other Forum Members. [i]Thanks![/i][/blue][/size]
Endowed,Of course, I can?t answer for them, but I?ll give my best guess, starting with a general view of the alien sex monger and the sex-for-pay establishments in Nippon. With a regular fuzoku (seikans, imekuras, etc.) there are the obvious concerns of language, knowing what to expect, getting a girl that will accept gaijin, fears of uncleanliness / disease in non-Japanese, and general fear of the unknown, that make it easy to turn away the foreign monger. From the management?s point of view it?s probably too much bother or too risky to justify the limited income that a single or a few gaijin bring in. Then there?s an extra hurdle with these parties. These are ostensibly circles or clubs, and the management has to find players that won?t upset other players?an important consideration for Japanese. (See my earlier post for possibilities on how foreigners might upset, or make J-men feel uncomfortable at these parties.) Again, why risk alienating your main customer base (J-men) for one or a few unknown foreigners? From this point of view, it?s not hard to see why saying no to foreigners is so easy for them.Concerning the specific situation you mentioned, again I couldn?t answer for them, but it seems they might have one more reason to find it too troublesome (another communication barrier) and even easier to decline. Having said that, I don't think it's hopeless--I think the best option for clearing this would be if he found someone (preferably a regular Japanese who?s attended the party before) to explain the situation to the management, get okayed, and take him to the party and kind of be his sponsor. Once in, I don?t think there would be a problem. A foreigner can build some trust, alleviate some of the fears and turn his ?foreigness? into an advantage. Even at these parties, for example, Japanese like to try out their English with a foreigner and I happily oblige them. Show them that you?re respectful, can get along with the others, are not a problem, etc., and you can come back without worry. As I mentioned in my last post, I make sure to chat and joke with the J-men. I?ve even developed a sense of camaraderie with some that I find hard to achieve in more regular situations. Hope this helps.Note to all: a couple of other regular WSG members who don?t feel confident in their Japanese have expressed an interest in attending the club I?ve attended. If you?re in the same boat and want to join me the next time I go, please contact me via PM. Also, anyone else out there who?s tried these parties? Would love to read other experiences here!
Mister H, Fredo,Thanks for the postings on the orgy parties, a great contribution to the board. You might want to mention to your hosts that there is interest from foreign men with limited Japanese ability. I expect if they logged on the board here and sent out an invitation they would get a very good response. They could set up gaijin only parties so Japanese men are not offended. I would think it is easy to fill at least one party per week. Just a thought.A simple question I am hoping someone can help with. Anyone know any good love hotels in Ginza? Girls (non-pro) seem to like to meet for dinner in Ginza and when things go well, I can never find anywhere nearby to take them. Any suggestions?MJ
Nice reports on the orgies ... sounds pretty wild, and seems like a great deal. Are the girls really not pros? The thought that the girls are there for the sex as much as the guys are makes this way more exciting than any typical "pay-for-play" type deal. Did you get any contact info to keep in touch with the girls and organize your own little parties for free? I might have to check these parties out!
While I haven't personally attended any of these orgies, I've have little trouble engaging the services of pros, semi-pros or freebies of many japanese varieties. So, I think it would be fairly safe to say that a gaijiin gangbang could be organised in favor of those japanese women who wish to enjoy the formidible 'foreign devil'. I have several freebies who are mid 30's, OL types, minimal english that i met either from AFF, nampa or esute. I will ask a couple and see if they'd like to join a party. In addition, I've met several j-women at various strip clubs who were into 3p and 4p with cool guys.In any case, I'd also be game to try the j-orgies, too. Variety is the spice of a monger!
Here is another party group.I seem to be on their mailing list.They also have AV stars.The numbers look pretty good.If you get on their mailing list and you might get an email before the party starts and there might be only 2 guys but 4 girls.[blue]Gentlemen, This may come as a surprise to some of you, and please don't take this the wrong way, but you can not use my forum to promote a competing forum. If you have info, then post it here. Thanks, Jackson[/blue]
After the previous suggestion here, I thought I'd try Shibuya Bus Stop. What the hell, I've already been turned away by every IMEKURA I've ever tried, so I'm used to rejection.Sure enough, I got there (you can work out the location of the shop if you get to the area, thanks to the kanji "hint") and they said "Japanese only". As per usual, instead of just walking out of the store, I explained that I can speak Japanese and asked if there was a special reason, and after some consideration they let me in. They basically explained the same kind of thing that the orgy reports have been saying.Communication is a big part of the relationship in these places, and the foreign element can be scary - especially when the staff in question are all quite young.Anyway, I paid my 15,000 - 50 min course, and I think they threw in the membership for free after I mentioned I came because of their website. The system works like this: you spend 20 minutes inside a mocked-up bus, with a bunch of girls stood and sat around with blindfolds on. You can caress these girls, but you cannot kiss, lick or put fingers inside. Have fun in there for a while, avoid the other guys in there, and remember the name of the girl you want to go for mains with. Then you leave the bus, and if you picked a girl, you pay 2000 extra for the privilege, otherwise it's lucky dip. Then you take a shower on your own and go to the room you've been allotted where the girl should be waiting for you. You can get BBBJ and Sumata in your remaining time (only one shot though, it seems), and some girls will let you do CIM without paying the extra too - well, mine did. After you've done what you need to do, another shower and then chit chat until time's up.I really must stress that language is important here because it makes the girl feel a lot more relaxed. The girl I was with was a 22 year old student who graduates in 2 months. She was cute as hell, too! But after this experience, I'm so glad I had the nerves to try it. 17,000 may have been a bit pricey for a BBBJ in retrospect, but it was genuinely something I've been wanting to try for a while, so there is value in that aspect :)The website is here:http://www.shibuya-busstop.com/index2.htmIt has a map on it, so I won't give out directions here. If you can't work out the building it is in, give them a quick call.
Fredo,Great post! Good to hear someone else is out there with similar experiences. Concerning the BJCIM at the parties I attended, I?ve never heard or seen any rule against it. I prefer to finish with FS, however, so I?ve never really tried. Also, please check your private messages! Fishmonger,I feel a little guilty. I think you asked a question back a few months ago about one of my original posts about the parties and I never got around to answering it?my apologies! It is a great deal and can be pretty wild. Unfortunately, the girls are pros in reality, not amateurs. The home pages say the girls pay nothing, which is, of course, true. What they don?t say is that the girls are paid a very high ?transportation allowance??20K in one newspaper article on the subject--which makes it worth their while to come in. You definitely should try it at least once!PM me if you want to the club I attended.Meguro Joe,You make a good suggestion and the thought crossed my mind as well. The next time I see the mamasan I?ll suggest it and see how she warms to it. (She wasn?t at the party the other day, unfortunately.)Hot Bot,Sounds like you?re the first alien on the bus! Great job breaking the store?s foreigner cherry. With all those other doors being slammed in your face, this one had to feel good. We need more reports like this! To those who PMed me,Thanks for contacting me. There were more messages that I expected, so please give me a little time to get back to you.Cheers
OK, it's been long enough so I'll relate a story regarding a wedding I attended at the New Sanno Hotel in Hiroo. I don't want to give away the couple or my friend who gets me in there occasionally on the weekend for brunch.A friend of mine is retired US military residing in Japan for the last 15+ years. One of his numerous watering holes is the New Sanno Hotel. The place is a little amazing in Japan because virtually everything there is imported, including plumbing fixtures in the rooms and even in the public restrooms. Additionally, I think the general store upstairs only takes dollars!Anyway, I was invited to a wedding there for my friend's very close friend who is active US military. Standard wedding, quite nice, great food and booze, the whole nine yards.The bar there is usually occupied on the weekends with a few painted ladies. Nothing that you'd really want to dip your wick with but their makeup and dress is something to behold. I have no idea how they get in because the security is pretty tight there and you have to be credentialed or know somebody.To make a long story short, I managed to catch the garter and my friend "treated" me to an hour with one of his "friends" who is usually in tow with him. He's a rather studly guy from the US mainland and he keeps himself in pretty good shape and it seems like many of his Japanese ex-girlfriends still hang out with him even though they are no longer living together or otherwise connected. He had a room rented that day and let us use it and made it clear that we were to clean it up and make it presentable because other people would be using it after us. This lady was about 30-33, nice body, and pretty decent technique and gives a good GFE. Although I am curious as hell about my friend's arrangement, it's not my place to ask too many questions so I just keep my mouth shut and attend his get-togethers every 2-3 months. Most of the time we just have brunch and then head to the small bar for beers. That was my one and only time to use the room facilities there but I did connect up with two of his "friends" via keitai later on. They all speak and write English so that makes it quite easy. Most of his friends are in their 30's and even early 40's but they are all well-groomed and charming in their own way and I would certainly never turn down any of them for lack of looks or charm. While not really nampa, but I admire his setup and he never seems to be without the ladies.Anyone else been to the New Sanno and seen or heard of anything like this?
As most of those parties are not gaijin-friendly... or at least they are not designed for foreigners, one should organize our own parties... Let's find 5 girls, we could be 5 to 8-9 guys and have fun, no ?
Quick update for Shibuya Sex Tower:I visited the 2F men's esute and got another discount ticket from the old tout outside. Before 12.00pm so it was only12k for 60min! Amazing, they should recognise me by now, but I always get the 3k discount ticket and they are happy to receive it! Anyways, I tried a new girl , Reika (???????j, and was amazed at her beauty for this type of place! A real stunner and nearly 175cm tall! Nicely trimmed bush, perfect B cup. The experience was totally GFE, no FS because it was her 'red day', but otherwise, very nice. The place reminds me of the BBS in Shanghai or BJ, but the girls are cuter and the cost is about 4x!! But hey, this is Tokyo!Also - 5F and 6F are still in business contrary to previous reports. They were just on vacation.Shibuya Sex Tower still tops my list of the easy fun in Tokyo. It may get boring soon, but there's definitely something for everyone in price from 6k - 20kJPY Minimal japanese required, gaijiin friendly on every floor. Just don't be a jerk if you get marginal service! Remember, YMMV and generally improves with attitude! Also - bring your own condom if you are larger sized. The japanese standard issues <really> are too small!FYI - New Sanno is a U.S. government hotel and open only to armed services employees or directly accompanied friends. If you are looking for casual pickups in the area, then I suggest going to Motown or Heartland in Roppongi. Or visiting Ebisu near the club/restaraunt section which also has a couple nice love hotels conveniently near.S
Soujourn,I don't think there are any casual pickups near the New Sanno. It's in a very high end neighborhood and not really the place for casual mongering. I was mainly interested to know if any military or retired military or friends of those have any stories to tell about the place. It's not for public consumption, I realize that, but it's an interesting place if you can get in, even just to see a little of the US buried in the middle of Tokyo. I was mainly interested in how the painted ladies get into the place.Which place is the Shibuya Sex Tower? Do you have an address or phone number of any of the places in it?