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Does anyone care to give a step by step guide for getting into Asian Friend Finder or some other websites?
I'm sure its on the forum, but probably in little bits and pieces that would take us non-web savvy types a long time to piece together.
Perhaps one of the bro's who is expert in this area could write us a FAQ?
Jimbo
Dear friend,
Based on my limited experience, Yahoo messenger is a very nifty tool. Try to get into Philippines chat rooms and chat with as many gals as possible. if they like you (which is not difficult provided u look passable) they shall give u their phone no:, contacts, and heck-even get naked. Off course, all of them hope you will come PI and spend some time (and money) on them. Which is perfectly fine by many of us for the GFE it provides. One word of caution: Don't spend online gifts or money without meeting them. Not worth it.
Good luck and happy hunting.
If some other experienced bros would be willing to share Ids of good 'available' gals, that'd be amazing.
Also, I dont know abt other sites AFF etc. Some pls elaborate.
Cheers
[QUOTE=Crazy Jim Wood]Does anyone care to give a step by step guide for getting into Asian Friend Finder or some other websites?
I'm sure its on the forum, but probably in little bits and pieces that would take us non-web savvy types a long time to piece together.
Perhaps one of the bro's who is expert in this area could write us a FAQ?
Jimbo[/QUOTE]Sure just copy and paste this in your URL
[url]www.asianfriendfinder.com[/url]
or
[url]www.filipinofriendfinder.com[/url]
Now isn't that easy?? Filipino Friend Finder is the better one if you're looking for a Filipina only but both will have them.
Hi holton,
Both these websites have paid subscription right?
Are there any other web sites or other methods if I dont want a paid subscription?
Thx
I live in Shanghai and find it very difficult to access Asia Friend Finder, however there is an other URL that will access the same site successfully for me. It is [url]http://asiafind.com/p/page.cgi?pid=p45128&site=ffz&ANON_CONFIRM=TRUE[/url] or some times just [url]http://asiafind.com[/url].
This is a free site but "premium" memberships are available. I do not use the premium memberships.
I have successfully used this site for over 3 years.
Happy to answer further questions from anyone.
ES
[QUOTE=Eaglestar]I live in Shanghai and find it very difficult to access Asia Friend Finder, however there is an other URL that will access the same site successfully for me. It is [url]http://asiafind.com/p/page.cgi?pid=p45128&site=ffz&ANON_CONFIRM=TRUE[/url] or some times just [url]http://asiafind.com[/url].
This is a free site but "premium" memberships are available. I do not use the premium memberships.
I have successfully used this site for over 3 years.
Happy to answer further questions from anyone.
ES[/QUOTE]
How do you use it? I can't even read profiles there.
Hey ES,
Registered with this site. But the prob is the same. I can view other ppls profile but cant contact them until i "upgrade" to premium membership. Did u also pay up at least once earlier. Or am i missing some trick ?
Thx
[QUOTE=Eaglestar]I live in Shanghai and find it very difficult to access Asia Friend Finder, however there is an other URL that will access the same site successfully for me. It is [url]http://asiafind.com/p/page.cgi?pid=p45128&site=ffz&ANON_CONFIRM=TRUE[/url] or some times just [url]http://asiafind.com[/url].
This is a free site but "premium" memberships are available. I do not use the premium memberships.
I have successfully used this site for over 3 years.
Happy to answer further questions from anyone.
ES[/QUOTE]
Yes Vicky888,
Thats the GREAT marketing of the internet dating sites. Sure you can join for free but you can't chat with anyone or contact them unless you PAY for the membership. The poor filipinas are all standard non-paying members and the only way to contact a standard member is for you to be a paid member. Pretty smart of the sites the way they hook you into joining for free and then make you pay to contact anyone. That being said I think they are still well worth the memebership. Lots of the girls have profile pics and as the Phil is sooo hot most are dressed in shorts or nice little outfits that show tummies and legs. Poor mans playboy, ha ha ha.
Are there any experiances with that abc girls? I found not so much with the search here :(
[url]http://www.babecam.info[/url]
or [url]www.asianbabecams.com[/url]
I mean it is a great business for them. But they not looking for relationship :)
Does anybody meet one of them there?
[QUOTE=zladdi]Are there any experiances with that abc girls? I found not so much with the search here :(
[url]http://www.babecam.info[/url]
or [url]www.asianbabecams.com[/url]
I mean it is a great business for them. But they not looking for relationship :)
Does anybody meet one of them there?[/QUOTE]Yes you can. I have, but it took quite a bit of investment before I saw her overthere. Had a great time. She fell in love. I do like her, but not ready to give up the freedom yet.
Others have agreed to meet, but I'm not sure they would have. Most I have befriended finally admit to it being a job and have "real" lifes outside ABC. (meaning, there mom isn't really sick or the father of her baby isn't really dead or an addict.) two common stories on ABC.
Its best to play the field when you are there. Much cheaper and less emotions involved.
[QUOTE=Vicky888]Hey ES,
Registered with this site. But the prob is the same. I can view other ppls profile but cant contact them until i "upgrade" to premium membership. Did u also pay up at least once earlier. Or am i missing some trick ?
Thx[/QUOTE]
Yes, at one point I was a premium member but now just standard. I can send up to 10 messages in any given 24 hour period. I don't know if being a former premium member allows me to do this or not.
Sometimes if you are send to the page to upgrade if you click on "home" it will open the profile of the woman you want to contact and you can send a message.
Alternatively, I sometimes just open the instant messaging service and wait for some lovely to contact me there while I am doing other things on the net. Actually I am doing that now. If I am interested, I quickly switch to Yahoo or MSN messenger. Kinda like fishing. Throw the baited line in and wait for a bite. I have been told that any women who register a regular members but post one or maybe more photos are automatically upgraded to Silver status and that allows them to contact anyone.
I continue to have success there. See my post in the photo section about the chubby Shanghaiese married lady I nailed a few days ago.
Another tactic I use is to open the messenger service (not the HTML version), check the location by looking at the miles or km distance from me and page someone who lives in Shanghai or nearby I am interested in to chat. More work but I have had some success with this.
ES
[QUOTE=zladdi]Are there any experiances with that abc girls? I found not so much with the search here :(
[url]http://www.babecam.info[/url]
or [url]www.asianbabecams.com[/url]
I mean it is a great business for them. But they not looking for relationship :)
Does anybody meet one of them there?[/QUOTE]
Hi,
as you said , most of them just there for the money and looking for a bf who support them, The gud ones have several bf who sent them money, plus their income in chats, plus gifts. They willing to meet you if they smell money, lol.
Some are just looking for a bf who take them out of the country and marry them, but they will also go for the big fish. Some made pretty gud gf (my gf is from this site and Im ok with her, she takes care of my business)
In general speaking, all this gurls are lookin for support and if you back in your own country, you have to support them and that can be also quite costly.
My advise is, before goin to PI chat some gurls up and see how they react, exchange ym id and try to meet them up for dinner, cinema, etc. and see how things work out. I feel not comfortable to take bargurls out for dinner, etc...cause I have a gf over there and mostly its not to interesting to have conversation to a bargurl after the deed is done, Its fun to talk to them in the bar and have a party, but when the party is over, thre isnt much left to say. In pinoy places its different, I had 2 gurls from there to be my gf. Im not judging them and I respect them, but Im always for a gud mix once I go to PI. Maybe Im gettin older (LOL)but Im not that kind of guy havin different gurls evry night (in BKK had different gurls during day lol).
I suggest a gud mix, so I chat gurls up before I go PI, then I have the bars, malls and lastly my gf. :)
Happy hunting!!
Here is some good reading about the scams at the friendfinder websites, they are all connected despite the name. http://www.ripoffreport.com/results.asp?q1=ALL&q4=&q6=&q3=&q2=&q7=&searchtype=0&submit2=Search!&q5=friend+finder&Search=Search
As for meeting girls I agree that Yahoo chat is a great way to do it, I have met several girls this way. I hang-out in the Japan chat rooms and just wait for one of them to contact me. There are a lot of Filipina here thinking they will get some rich Japanese guy, people still think that all Japanese have money, definitely not true.
Also I know some guys that have hooked-up with the asianbabecam girls and the results were mixed. Yes he got laid but, he had to work a little harder and pay a little more than he would if she was a regular bargirl.
[QUOTE=zladdi]Are there any experiances with that abc girls? I found not so much with the search here :(
[url]http://www.babecam.info[/url]
or [url]www.asianbabecams.com[/url]
I mean it is a great business for them. But they not looking for relationship :)
Does anybody meet one of them there?[/QUOTE]I've used abc in the past when I was suffering from severe filipina withdrawal but I don't think its a great way to actually meet girls when you're visiting. For most of them its just their job and they want to make money, not meet old (usually fat & unattractive) foreign guys. They may say the want to meet you, but that's usually cause they want to get you to spend more money for private webcam sessions. There was one girls on there named wendy that suckered me in for a little while claiming she lived in angeles and wanted to meet me. Of course, she also hit me up for money with the sick father story so I didn't really believe her, but she was gorgeous & had an incredible body so i played along for a while. I don't think she's on there anymore, but I haven't looked at abc in a while. Anyway, if you just want to chat or get a private show, abc is fine, but if you want to meet a girl, just go to the philippines and hit the bars. Its much easier and cheaper that way.
[QUOTE=zladdi]I mean it is a great business for them.[/QUOTE]
On the contrary, most abc girls don't make much money. Only the top models earn enough money to make it worth their time. Out of the $1.99 USD per minute the website charges, the models only get $0.20 per minute. There is also a start up fee they must pay back for the PC and internet connection.
One of the women I know shares her PC with two other models one of which is a ladyboy. She claims the bakla makes more money than the other two put together, a sad situation all around.
Pals,
I was wondering about abc. I spend a lot of time chasing lovely, young women in China and Hong Kong (chinese NOT filipinas here). abc means American Born Chinese. Anyway asian babe cam w___e is ok. To be honsest, I have found these women to be a total waste of time/money. They view us as naieve and stupid. They would do absolutely nothing without receiving payment. I have met several women in normal chat sites that ask for money just like the cyber tramps. In most instances when I refuse to send them money I never hear from them again.
There are a few in different parts of the Philippines, including Davao, my top "playground" for meeting asian pussy, that are "hanging tough". They realize that I will be returning soon and I am interested in meeting them. Thinking me to be the typical dumb fuck they encounter on the net (most cannot believe we are anything but stupid/naieve), they are anticipating a significant outlay of funds from me to them when we meet. They are in for a rude awakening.
First, I do believe that we "pay for it one way or another". But I do NOT pay without first getting the play. So, no fuckee the Slayer, no fucking money for the cyber tramp. It will not be the first time some little s__t showed up at my Hotel with "expectations the size of Alaska", only to sadly depart soon after empty handed. They either fuck me first and often or they can go fuck themselves.
One of these, a 22 y/o near Davao City (this region is full of cyber pros as it is very poor), is on cam for 2-4 hours every day, mostly in the morning Phil Time. I am working then in my Firm. I have the net open as I need it for my work and can see who comes on/offline while I am working. I have viewed her cam many times. She offers to go into a private room for $$ upfront. Gave me her phone number and after chatting with her about ten times I decided to call her one evening. I forgot to mention, she claims to be madly in love with me (my wallet is more like it). When I phoned her she asked first if I was Biil and then if I was Mike. Did not seem to understand when she answered and I said, Rose, hi this is ___ in _______.
The same can be said for the girl whose photo I listed in Davao a month ago. Miss Monroe is also near Davao. She works in a net cafe. Three nights ago she pulled up her blouse and bra and showed me her lovely tits on cam. She also offered to go to a private room and be totally nude. But she needed money up front. Not later or a promise, Money. Like Rose, she is 22 and she also claims to have a "deep love" for me. She also wants to stay with me in Davao and like Rose above, promises to fuck me all the time.
Next week we will see. Personally, I am not getting an erection on the expecttion of events. Nor am I compiling a wad of $20 bills or P1000 notes for them. Over the last five years that the internet has become "big time" in Asia, I have had little success with this kind of woman. The regular ladies I meet on the internet or elsewhere. The ones who never ask for money are the ones who I know will treat me good. The others can have their fill of the thousands of men who fall for their nonsense.
Dragon Slayer
Hi to all,
read post of DS and have to agree also.
Those gurls go for the bigger money, the more pretty , the more money, you have to spent some more money on them then u can score.
Im here in AC now and dated 3 gurls, one showed up in my hotel room in Manila, she worked pinoy club before, so you can screw her for bigger money.
The other gurl is hiding, cause she is afraid of bum2 (LOL).
The other gurl I met 2 times, she is also very pretty, if I score I post my experience with her in here.
Bargurls arent my taste, Im kinda chosy, but I have to admit now there are so many gurls here and not much tourist so its a great time for hunt, if they ask to much money for the deed , or just money upfront, forget them and move on.
Like my friend says, who live a long time allready in PI, all the gurls here are pretty, but u have to find out how pretty she is inside.......
Mattrick, read ur post, gurls earning between 10 and 20 pesos a minute, some studio bosses have quota , some not, the stunners earn gud money in chat, plus money from their boyfriends. when they in town, they meet for shopping etc...if the gurl likes you, more can happen.
Good money is 10 000 p a week or more...
Happy hunting!!!
[QUOTE=Blink157]Hi to all,
I read post of DS and have to agree also.
Those gurls go for the bigger money, the more pretty , the more money, you have to spent some more money on them then you can score.
Im here in AC now and dated 3 gurls, one showed up in my hotel room in Manila, she worked pinoy club before, so you can screw her for bigger money.
The other gurl is hiding, cause she is afraid of bum2 (LOL).
The other gurl I met 2 times, she is also very pretty, if I score I post my experience with her in here.
Bargurls arent my taste, Im kinda chosy, but I have to admit now there are so many gurls here and not much tourist so its a great time for hunt, if they ask to much money for the deed , or just money upfront, forget them and move on.
Like my friend says, who live a long time allready in PI, all the gurls here are pretty, but you have to find out how pretty she is inside.
Mattrick, read your post, gurls earning between 10 and 20 pesos a minute, some studio bosses have quota , some not, the stunners earn gud money in chat, plus money from their boyfriends. when they in town, they meet for shopping etc. If the gurl likes you, more can happen.
Good money is 10 000 p a week or more.
Happy hunting!!![/QUOTE]
The girl I met from ABC claimed to be making between 20k to 30 K a week from ABC. She was a more popular girl until she quit in feb. She now works only a little bit from her house, but her take is better. She changed her name to start "a new". She had too many "BF's" under her old name.
I managed to meet her twice. What an amazing time. Total GFE.
She did "fall in love" so she said. I had a great time with her, but... I'm not ready to go for just one pinay when I'm in the PI. Plus, she's too expensive. I don't pay her for the deed, but all the shopping and food when i'm there plus the "emergencies" when I'm not. It's just not worth it. I'm sure I'm not the only "Joe" supporting her (or was I should say)
Next trip, I'm going without "plans" and she what comes up! and maybe at the end, I'll surprise her and show up at her door. LOL
Well I like the honesty of ABC. We all know its about the money. None of this lifetime partner BS.
But to make 30 K would mean 20 hours in a private chat at the 25 PHP per minute that I have been told they make.
Well I have spent a fair bit of time chatting to and checking out what I believe to be the hottest gals there, and I think that they would be very lucky to spend more than 40 minutes out of 8 hours in private chat.
Then again I might be looking at the wrong ones, it seems incredible how some of the less comely gals could make any money at all.
Anyway I have a bit of fun chatting to them. And if I can get off my lazy ass an visit Manila then I would certainly be lining up a couple to pay my respects.
Steve
[QUOTE=Bloveld]Well I like the honesty of ABC. We all know its about the money. None of this lifetime partner BS.
But to make 30 K would mean 20 hours in a private chat at the 25 PHP per minute that I have been told they make.
Well I have spent a fair bit of time chatting to and checking out what I believe to be the hottest gals there, and I think that they would be very lucky to spend more than 40 minutes out of 8 hours in private chat.
Then again I might be looking at the wrong ones, it seems incredible how some of the less comely gals could make any money at all.
Anyway I have a bit of fun chatting to them. And if I can get off my lazy ass an visit Manila then I would certainly be lining up a couple to pay my respects.
Steve[/QUOTE]Yeah, some of them I wonder why they are working at all. The girl I was talking about was in Pvt almost all of the time. We would just chat on YM. she'd let me watch while she'd fuck with some other guy who thought she was his GF.
gentlemen:
Just my 2 cents on this topic pay for play and the closely related cyber tramps the ilk of which one finds plying her trade ala freelance on yahoo or whatever. READ VERY CAREEFULLY what The Dragon slayer says re cyber sluts this is a VERY good acessment of matters and a good response.
This is no personal attack against anyone here, but guys, it takes two to tango. I hear a lot of complaints about the mercenary aspect of the girls but actually "we" are the ones who have created this situation with the eagerness of some of us out there who are ever so willing to part with money so easily in hopes of forming a "relationship" Remember THIS IS A BUSINESS FOR MOST FILIPINAS who have absolutely no way of making a living.
Most girls I know work these guys like a carnival tout works a sucker. Every time I go into a public internet (especailly those in Toril or Matina Davao) I see three of four girls working the chat lines with five or six guys backed up on the screen. You should hear the things they say about these guys and how they trade info and work one against the other sheeeeesh!!!!!
I know there is a certain type out there who gets off on talking dirty to a woman, have her show some skin and jerk off, if that is your thing, fine, I suppose it is cheaper than the phone sex one finds in many western countries but my point is that many guys who don't know any better go looking for serious relationships with these bimbos and end up sending them a lot of money, this screws things up for joe average who is looking for something more, now the girls expect it and they get together and brag and exaggerate how much money they make and try to outdo each other etc.
I know it isn;t going to stop but the least you all can do is get together and hold down the price a bit, remember, these girls network and have an info system that rivals any intel network the CIA and NSA combined can come upwith.
That said it is simply not necessary to meet girls via the internet to "score" should you be in the Philippines, remmeber, You are a precious comonodity here, a walking talking ATM machine with a dick. Dress decently, talk nice act like a gentleman even if you aren't, make eye contact and smile, strike up a conversation on anything, learn a few words of Tagalog or Visayan.
Try one of the Spamhogs tried and true methods, decend upon a local internet filled with cuties, hover about like a predatory bird, a find yon maid who is working the chat lines, obtain said damsels email, sing on and go to work. When she asks where you are....right next to you my dear, do you want to stay in this cafe and chat or have lunch/dinner etc with me...look over and smile... works like a charm.
Spamhog
[QUOTE=Vicky888]Dear friend,
Based on my limited experience, Yahoo messenger is a very nifty tool. Try to get into Philippines chat rooms and chat with as many gals as possible. if they like you (which is not difficult provided u look passable) they shall give u their phone no:, contacts, and heck-even get naked. Off course, all of them hope you will come PI and spend some time (and money) on them. Which is perfectly fine by many of us for the GFE it provides. One word of caution: Don't spend online gifts or money without meeting them. Not worth it.
Good luck and happy hunting.
Cheers[/QUOTE]
Hell, most of the time, they'll come finding you instead of finding them, there all over the Yahoo chatrooms!:eek:
[QUOTE=MeatMan]Hell, most of the time, they'll come finding you instead of finding them, there all over the Yahoo chatrooms!:eek:[/QUOTE]
I am not too computer savvy. I use yahoo messenger and yahoo groups but how do I get in the chat rooms and which ones are best for the Manila area?
I had the same feeling. I searched for "yahoo chat" and got some links, went to PI chat. In the room someone was using huge letters to say, "Wnt grl to sk my dk".
Well, maybe there are good chat rooms and bad. I wish someone could elaborate.
To be honest, I increasingly feel like any contribution to this lisst is a waste of time. I get people insulting me or asking stupid questons. "what's her phone number???" Oh, of the 30+ girls I've posted here, which girl? Duh?
Me and my mates find there are several types who use yahoo chat and easily the best types are English slapper freebies (we live here) and straightforward hookers in Asia. You can play them with no comeback. The amount of money some of them make and ask for is unreal.
As for Friendster, the Pinoys own it. Go to any country. I tried Gambia, Pinoys everywhere looking for true love with some sucker.
Pay for play is better. Fuck them and then pay them to leave. Hookers epxect that but ordinary slappers sometimes get offended with a few bob and a friendly slap on the arse.
[QUOTE=X Man]I had the same feeling. I searched for "yahoo chat" and got some links, went to PI chat. In the room someone was using huge letters to say, "Wnt grl to sk my dk".
Well, maybe there are good chat rooms and bad. I wish someone could elaborate.
To be honest, I increasingly feel like any contribution to this lisst is a waste of time. I get people insulting me or asking stupid questons. "what's her phone number???" Oh, of the 30+ girls I've posted here, which girl? Duh?[/QUOTE]
Don't let it get you down X Man. Just remember loud mouths have more to spout off about than the regular guys but there are regular fuys here who appreciate good info and stories.
X man: Soldier on. Web shopping is becoming more popular. And pussy shopping has always been popular. With good guys like you, we can all be more discerning shoppers.
Of course there are loads of pervs on the Net. Most of us will have been in SE Asian Internet cafes sititng beside chicks with guys jacking off on the screens in front of them. I pity the women but most of them see them as the sick fucks that they are. I have scored a few babes by commenting on the sick fucks. I offer them a dick to cry on.
Frankly though, I prefer straight p4p. But the Net is impossilble to ignrore. Anyway this post was just to back up J Boy and thank you for your efforts. From little acorns.
GREAT words of wisdom here from DS and SH. I particularly like this bit:
Try one of the Spamhogs tried and true methods, decend upon a local internet filled with cuties, hover about like a predatory bird, a find yon maid who is working the chat lines, obtain said damsels email, sing on and go to work. When she asks where you are....right next to you my dear, do you want to stay in this cafe and chat or have lunch/dinner etc with me...look over and smile... works like a charm.
Spamhog
VERY clever sir. Shall try it (If I have any free time)
[QUOTE=Spam Hog]gentlemen:
Just my 2 cents on this topic pay for play and the closely related cyber tramps the ilk of which one finds plying her trade ala freelance on yahoo or whatever. READ VERY CAREEFULLY what The Dragon slayer says re cyber sluts this is a VERY good acessment of matters and a good response.
This is no personal attack against anyone here, but guys, it takes two to tango. I hear a lot of complaints about the mercenary aspect of the girls but actually "we" are the ones who have created this situation with the eagerness of some of us out there who are ever so willing to part with money so easily in hopes of forming a "relationship" Remember THIS IS A BUSINESS FOR MOST FILIPINAS who have absolutely no way of making a living.
Most girls I know work these guys like a carnival tout works a sucker. Every time I go into a public internet (especailly those in Toril or Matina Davao) I see three of four girls working the chat lines with five or six guys backed up on the screen. You should hear the things they say about these guys and how they trade info and work one against the other sheeeeesh!!!!!
I know there is a certain type out there who gets off on talking dirty to a woman, have her show some skin and jerk off, if that is your thing, fine, I suppose it is cheaper than the phone sex one finds in many western countries but my point is that many guys who don't know any better go looking for serious relationships with these bimbos and end up sending them a lot of money, this screws things up for joe average who is looking for something more, now the girls expect it and they get together and brag and exaggerate how much money they make and try to outdo each other etc.
I know it isn;t going to stop but the least you all can do is get together and hold down the price a bit, remember, these girls network and have an info system that rivals any intel network the CIA and NSA combined can come upwith.
That said it is simply not necessary to meet girls via the internet to "score" should you be in the Philippines, remmeber, You are a precious comonodity here, a walking talking ATM machine with a dick. Dress decently, talk nice act like a gentleman even if you aren't, make eye contact and smile, strike up a conversation on anything, learn a few words of Tagalog or Visayan.
Try one of the Spamhogs tried and true methods, decend upon a local internet filled with cuties, hover about like a predatory bird, a find yon maid who is working the chat lines, obtain said damsels email, sing on and go to work. When she asks where you are....right next to you my dear, do you want to stay in this cafe and chat or have lunch/dinner etc with me...look over and smile... works like a charm.
Spamhog[/QUOTE]
All very true Mr. Hog.
Not that you needed my confirmation, just thought I would add my 2 peso. I had this one girl in yahoo chat, in the Mindanao section for everyone's reference. This one girl almost immediately hit me for chat and within about 1 minute was asking me if I wanted to see her naked? I said of course, she then proceeded to ask for the money. I explained that I could not trust that I would get to see her if I sent money first, she gave in and proceeded to give a me pretty good show. Nice tits and nipples. Of course I said I was going to send the money, which I never did..sorry guys for being an ass and ruining it for the next guy.
The next time I logged on Yahoo messenger I had about 10 girls who had sent me IM's. This girl must have told them she had a winner before she realized that I did not send money. I chatted with some of the girls over the next week or so and they all wanted to do cam sex for money in the cafe they were in. Very open about it and they all started the negotiating at 100 US dollars, but quickly went down to accepting 40 US dollars. I never did take them up on the offer though.
Good luck and have fun
FF
One should not feel bad and one bears no ill onus for getting a cyber freebie
off the web cammers . Actually it is the other way around IMHO, I dont like seeing the unwitting western male being played for a sucker, that is the main reason I post my drivel about cyber sluts as a caution. You would be suprised how many guys fall for the cyber babe routine.
So If F.F.or any of the other brethern get a free show once in a while good.
The girls DO trade info on hot "clinets", who pays what to see what. (and who doesn;t pay!). Also you can reverse the bitches and use several different Yahoo alias just like they do. Sometimes they steal the guys info from each other. I seen a few interesting cat fights in cyber cafes over this one...amusing!. But remember the girls LOVE to exaggerate how much money they get so that is why the "$100 routine".
I think elsewhere I mentioned CB, Im always down on that place reason is that is where you find a lot of the TV's plying their trade. I could tell of five or six incidents in Davao alone. One Byot was using pix from a former Miss Philippines, had some poor schmuck all ready to come to Davao and marry "it". There is a famous Byot who works the guys out of General Santos.
Always beware of some fishy dame who is web camera shy and uses the name "rose" as "her" handle. Apparently the byots have some sort of code worked out using this name. Sweetrose, babyrose etc.
And it isn;t just the byots either, I hope the web master has no problem with me puting this out but the infamous Judy Altraca was said to have amased a fotune (she has houses in Davao) off the Web cam, to CB's credit they banned her and published her info as a warning but a lot of the girls took a cue from her after hearing of all the fabulous riches she obtained by deluding love sick men.
These are just a few of the "horror stories" I know of (Factual), I'm sure most guys on this board could probably tell the same.
So gentlemen as the wise man once said;
Caveat Emphor!
Regards
Spamhog
from where i come I treasure the girls even if i get cheated....:)..here in my place..its like taliban censored life..and im talking about india..no pussies no freebies..its soo frustatiing to make a girl friend here and no pussy till i get married and that too arranged :(
philiphine is a paradise for me..even with cheating :D..ateast we have options..with all its negativities...it still a hot f u c kng place for fu ck ...I love it..it just takes me five minutes to pick a girl in cebu from a cafe...Initially...i used to surf around the net from home...now i just lurk the cafe and pick the most hot looking girl...
its soo easy...just stalk around by evening in cafes and spot a girl.... wait for her to come out and follow her ..mostly girl who come out of cafe does not have any work..they come out when the money gets over...they are waiting for some other thing but nothing really to do....just go and talk to her and she is yours...
just be a mindless moron in philiphines...i just love the fact that..i had to use so little of my brain to get a girl here..its like learning ABCD again..
really...we require 1/10th of our useless brain to score here and i love the fact that here women are mostly innocent and very open to a stranger or tourist....they are just ready to do everything in five minutes...not just sex..but be a really good friend ...they are simply the greatest women in the world....hats off to philipino women...
with all the positive i see here...I don't care if i get cheated 100 times....cos i had the worse days back home, where women use there heads more than their feminity and are selfish to the core....even if u pay them ..they do not give good service...
the women here are just after your money if u feel cheated...but if you give them money...u will never ever be disappointed..they will fuck u in turns...
i wish i could live and die in philiphines...fucking a virgin each day...:)
im just envy you guys for living and fucking in the philiphines...:D
I would like your comments on the following:
I have been chatting with a filipina for some time. Now I have to go to Manila, work related. She is not from manila, and I mentioned it to her. Now she wants to meet me, but, ofcourse, she has no money. Is it advisable to by her a, non-refundable, plane-ticket. Should I concider it a 1400pp high-risk investment or just say no.
Thanks for your time
K
[QUOTE=Klon15]I would like your comments on the following:
I have been chatting with a filipina for some time. Now I have to go to Manila, work related. She is not from manila, and I mentioned it to her. Now she wants to meet me, but, ofcourse, she has no money. Is it advisable to by her a, non-refundable, plane-ticket. Should I concider it a 1400pp high-risk investment or just say no.
Thanks for your time
K[/QUOTE]
I say it all depends on the situation. What are your intentions? Do you see her as a guaranteed piece of A**, so hope to bring her in to have some sexual fun as many times as possible? If so then do not send her any money and save it for Manila as there will be plenty of fish in the sea for you to have fun with.
Is the she the one? Has she asked for money yet? If so then forget her. If not then consider some other options. You can buy here the ticket online and she can pick up the ticket and fly. No refunds, so if she doesn't show then you lose but she gains nothing. If you offer to buy the ticket so she can pick it up at the airport and she says this is a problem for her, then dump her as she only plans to keep you money.
How far from Manila does she live? Is a bus ride more than a day for her? If not then send her enough for a bus ride. Much less money invested this way.
FF
I flew a girl from MNL to Cebu for a weekend in 2000, as I missed meeting her (took 17 days for a postcard to go from Makati to Sta Mesa about 6 miles away, LOL) and I wasn't going back to MNL before flying home. Put her up in her own room, total cost about $100, but we got to meet, we're still friends today and she's met my wife. What the He**, why not, if the $$$ isn't an issue.
It is nice to see a success story. I flew over to Manila to meet my future wife but God was kind enought that I saw her pic with her philippino boyfriend in friendster so I did not make that mistake. What a little ****!
Congratulations
[QUOTE=Harvey WB]I flew a girl from MNL to Cebu for a weekend in 2000, as I missed meeting her (took 17 days for a postcard to go from Makati to Sta Mesa (about 6 miles away, LOL) and I wasn't going back to MNL before flying home. Put her up in her own room, total cost about $100, but we got to meet, we're still friends today and she's met my wife. What the He**, why not, if the $$$ isn't an issue.[/QUOTE]
Look her up in friendster or myspace.com by name or email before you commit. The Philippinas I have met so far (4), have been cheaters.
[QUOTE=Klon15]I would like your comments on the following:
I have been chatting with a filipina for some time. Now I have to go to Manila, work related. She is not from manila, and I mentioned it to her. Now she wants to meet me, but, ofcourse, she has no money. Is it advisable to by her a, non-refundable, plane-ticket. Should I concider it a 1400pp high-risk investment or just say no.
Thanks for your time
K[/QUOTE]
Thank you all for your coments, they were very helpfull.
K
I recall most guys saying when they sign up for CB,they get hundreds of emails from filipno girls. So I said what the hell.I'll give it a try also. So I sign up,and immediately I started recieveing emails from women interested in getting to know me. But I did not pay the fee and sign up,but the emails kept coming for a few days. And then they tailed off to nothing.I started wondering could some of these girls be on their payroll somehow? Nah, maybe im just paranoid!
I have met and bonked women I met at CB. I've even gotten a bit serious with a few. Some that I have either met or somehow confirmed...law school student, real estate agent, call center employee, factory workers, etc...
Sometimes they have as many as 250 women in the chat room a time. There may be some scammers and *****s in the mix, but I try not to discriminate agains women of low character. In fact, I rather enjoy them.
I used CB for quite a while and the number of contacts was overwhelming. I had to stop! I also calculate that I could have saved money if I had never subscribed and just paid bar fines.
As for Maytain, you may not be getting so many contacts now because you havent been ONLINE at the site. Log into the site and those 250 ladies see you online...they check out your profile...they send you the smiles. Unfortunately, you can't make contact if you haven't paid.
X
For the uninitiated,
Gents can you please clarify what the CB stand for?
I must be slow.
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[QUOTE=Proliberalist]For the uninitiated,
Gents can you please clarify what the CB stand for?[/QUOTE]CB = Cherry Blossoms
It is a well established marriage website.
Decided to try out Cherry Blossoms just as an experiment. Not gonna join.
Its been 30 minutes and I have two e-mails from 2 different girls but the message is exactly the same.Word for Word.
"Hi ***** I saw your profile and I wanted to send you a smile and a note ....."
What a Joke!
I don't see any mention of this site so I thought I'd say something about it. This is one of those sites where you have to pay, then the girls can contact you and chat you up. When I was in Makati for several weeks, that's how I met most of the girls I was with. They charge GBP 15.99 for one month, but for the quantity I met, I thought it was worth it. You don't need to search, the girls will find you when you log in. They will readily give you their yahoo chat name and their mobile numbers. You can pick and choose from there. The search and chat facilities are acceptable. It's possible to find yourself chatting with too many girls at once. As I was already in Makati at the time, I would screen them based on location, as in, would I get to meet them or not.
There are girls only looking for marriage and girls only looking for p4p but pretending otherwise. And everything in between. You just have to sound them out during the chat. Warning, there are a few guys posing as women here, but not that many. They don't look as realistic as they do in Thailand, but forewarned is forearmed.
The bad news is that if banging and leaving is your thing, this might not be good especially if you are a "pogi" gentleman who treats them well since the girls will often fall in love with you and your wallet, then get real clingy and jealous. If that bothers you, you should stick to the p4p scene.
That's probably just how "Smile" works, limited to a canned message.
CB used to be free for men, met a lot of nice people there in Chat, the real place to meet in CB.
CB is free to ladies, including Chat.
a smile is not a message but a mere mouseclick to express interest. 17Quid per month is a bit pricier than CB but next trip I might try FH to get a fresh start (girls will recognize you after a couple months on one site and the novelty factor is important IMHO).
Hmmm, since we were talking about Cherry blossom, I thought cb would be obvious. Sorry
Thanks Finrod for the FilHeart review. Do they also have many ladies from the south? What I liked about CB is there were a lot of women from Mindanao and that's where I was headed. They seem to have fewer women from Luzon / Manila.
There is another site one of the ladies told me about. EuroAsia or asiaeuro...something like that.
Surfer, if I ever spend money again on my account at CB, I thought I would leave the old account there and create a new one with different pictures. Your stategy might not work as well as you think since I think a lot of these girls are registered at more than one site.
I wonder if it is worthwhile to reveiw certain ladies on this board. Hmm, it might be fun.
X
[QUOTE=X Man]Thanks Finrod for the FilHeart review. Do they also have many ladies from the south? What I liked about CB is there were a lot of women from Mindanao and that's where I was headed. They seem to have fewer women from Luzon / Manila.[/QUOTE]
Yes, many of the girls who contacted me by chat or email were from Mindanao. Cagayan de Oro, Ozamis City, Davao, Cotabato, etc., were typical cities listed in their profiles. I didn't spend much time with them as I was not headed that way on this trip. But maybe next time? You will also find a lot of girls from Cebu as well. I did go there and meet some of them.
[QUOTE=X Man]Surfer, if I ever spend money again on my account at CB, I thought I would leave the old account there and create a new one with different pictures. Your stategy might not work as well as you think since I think a lot of these girls are registered at more than one site.
I wonder if it is worthwhile to reveiw certain ladies on this board. Hmm, it might be fun.
X[/QUOTE]
Since I am no longer paid at FH, I am hiding my profile there. Since I won't be back in the Phils for a long while, that might work as far as appearing fresh when I do reappear in preparation for my return. On the other hand, if someone here points me to a better site, I can go that way instead.
X makes a very good point here about the girls being registered in more than one place. It's practically all free to them so of course they will. We who have to spend money usually need to be choosier. So I'm glad this thread is available to discuss our results.
Some overlap perhaps, but I think the majority are on only one site (plus new ones join all the time). Only issue with Xman's idea is that on CB it states the date you created your profile AND the last time you updated it. Agreed there are VERY few on CB from Luzon, somewhat surprising as there is so much more web access but not surprising in that they have other ways to meet foreigners that are lacking in the bundoks (a Tagalog word that made its way into English lexicon as opposed to the MUCH more common adoption of English words by Tagalog).
[QUOTE=Surfer]a smile is not a message but a mere mouseclick to express interest. 17Quid per month is a bit pricier than CB but next trip I might try FH to get a fresh start (girls will recognize you after a couple months on one site and the novelty factor is important IMHO).[/QUOTE]Guess you're right. I don't know the site since I've never used it before.
20 e-mails so far, but I have to say I'm not impressed with the quality of talent.
I get much better just winging it over there.
As an experiment, I used FHearts for a number of months before making my trip to the PI. Although I used my friends account, I still had the opportunity to send out plenty of e-mails with my picture attached and, as a result, got plenty of responses.
Out of perhaps a hundred different girls who responded, I broke it down to one girl in Manila, Cebu, and Davao. The basis for the narrow selection was time management concerns. If I did not hit the target, I wanted time to monger. I received a clear commitment from each they would “stay overnight” with me. I had been corresponding heavily with each of these gals for approximately 6 months.
The results were as follows:
Manila: The girl came to my hotel and we went Jumbo’s (the floating restaurant) for dinner. It was a Friday night so the traffic was horrendous, it took us a good 50 minutes to reach the restaurant. The food was fair to poor.
It took an equal amount of time to get back to my hotel so we agreed to dispense with the “drinks” we planned. In the room it was crystal clear the girl, because it was our first time together, would indeed “sleep” with me - but that’s all. Naturally, I declined and sent her on her way. Made a quick trip to LA Café (now closed) and got the best action of my trip. Got repeated calls from her during my trip stating she wanted another chance and would “show” me how she felt about me.
Cebu: After months of telling me sleeping together was “no problem,” this gall wanted to bring a chaperone to dinner, she was just “too shy” to meet me by herself. Having my patience tested in Manila, and despite her persistent calling, I dumped her. Again, got repeated calls but the damage was done.
Davao: Initially, this situation was an enigma to me. The gal, a sexy thing in her pictures, was constantly asking when I would get there, and telling me how excited she was to see me. When I got to Manila I called her but no answer. Tried repeatedly to e-mail her but no answer. We never met. Back home I received e-mails from her claiming she had changed cell phone number, and she was “too sick” to check her e mail. Upon reflection no enigma here, I believe she had boyfriend troubles, or another mark was in town.
It appears to me if you have enough time to invest these web sites might be of some assistance. However, for hard core mongering, they are somewhat unreliable.
Bill, I would not have picked just one, but then again, you cite time management. Have to remember many girls will say anything to get you to pick them. I also would not have made the first date a big-deal dinner date.
My first dates were almost always for coffee or drinks in a local mall with dinner (or lunch) to follow if I felt good about her. Sometimes I did 2 or even 3 dates in a day like that. Sometimes I bailed early if she turned out to be ugly or there was no chemistry (or in one case, 'she' was really a ladyboy).
I stayed in Makati for several weeks so I had the luxury of the time to wade through the frogettes. A few of the girls I met did sleep with me on the first date. With two exceptions, these were pros or semi-pros pretending to be girls looking for boyfriends. They were the ones who were always asking me for "a little help for their family" in the morning. Most girls who slept with me did so on the second date. These were better GFE in general, but again, a couple of these turned out to be semi-pros as well. A couple more girls texted me near the end of my stay to say they would sleep with me if they could see me again. But I didn't take them up on that.
So that leads me to believe that if these girls are not pros or semi-pros, then they may need some warming up before they will hop in the sack with you. And of course, there's no guarantee they will do that. Among all the ones I met, I found one or two that I might see again when I make it back. But that won't be for awhile so we'll see how patient they are.
Billpsu broke it down to one lady per city, but I would suggest one lady per day...and keep those other email addresses and phone numbers. Some of the luckiest encounters I had were with ones rather low on the list...but were willing to meet within hours of my message...and spread their legs a few hours after that!
I would suggest it's a mistake to tell a woman you'll be meeting other women, and I also suggest it's a mistake to tell a woman she's the only one. Keep your cards close to your chest, know when to fold and when to hold....
As for the lady who just wanted to "sleep". Hmmm, risky, but go for it. You'll be in the same bed and light touching / kissing would be expected. But respect her wishes and cut things off FIRST...before she does. Very important...stop the action before she stops the action. In the morning (if she holds out that long), she may have new respect for you....not to mention a whole night of foreplay.
I did this one night. I quickly agreed to her concerns about sex (not having it). I presented the attitude that I could care less if I had sex with her (this attidue is easy to present when in SEA). I used the process in the above paragraph. By turning off the pressure before she did, I was always able to notch it up a bit each time for the next "round" of intimacy. Before the night was over I had my tongue halfway up her honey hatch and got her to "lick" some lollipop. I earned her trust by keeping my promise. Intercourse didn't occur.
The next day I took another risk. I agreed to go two hours out of town to her family reunion (holiday season)...at which time she unexpectedly asked her father if she could "accompany" me.
We had a fun two days on Bohol, with her father's permission. Intercourse occurred whenever I had the slightest urge! What a good girl! She has a regular job...not a pro by any means.
***If you have limited time, as Bilpsu had, these strategies are probably not for you. I also had limited time, but have been to the Philippines enough times that I wanted some different expericences.
As for Billpsu's Davao girl, I had something similar happen in Cebu. She was stunning, but actually cancelled the date after I was already at the meeting place. Heart breaking!
X
[QUOTE=Billpsu]As an experiment, I used FHearts for a number of months before making my trip to the PI. Although I used my friends account, I still had the opportunity to send out plenty of e-mails with my picture attached and, as a result, got plenty of responses.
Out of perhaps a hundred different girls who responded, I broke it down to one girl in Manila, Cebu, and Davao. The basis for the narrow selection was time management concerns. If I did not hit the target, I wanted time to monger. I received a clear commitment from each they would “stay overnight” with me. I had been corresponding heavily with each of these gals for approximately 6 months.
The results were as follows:
Manila: The girl came to my hotel and we went Jumbo’s (the floating restaurant) for dinner. It was a Friday night so the traffic was horrendous, it took us a good 50 minutes to reach the restaurant. The food was fair to poor.
It took an equal amount of time to get back to my hotel so we agreed to dispense with the “drinks” we planned. In the room it was crystal clear the girl, because it was our first time together, would indeed “sleep” with me - but that’s all. Naturally, I declined and sent her on her way. Made a quick trip to LA Café (now closed) and got the best action of my trip. Got repeated calls from her during my trip stating she wanted another chance and would “show” me how she felt about me.
Cebu: After months of telling me sleeping together was “no problem,” this gall wanted to bring a chaperone to dinner, she was just “too shy” to meet me by herself. Having my patience tested in Manila, and despite her persistent calling, I dumped her. Again, got repeated calls but the damage was done.
Davao: Initially, this situation was an enigma to me. The gal, a sexy thing in her pictures, was constantly asking when I would get there, and telling me how excited she was to see me. When I got to Manila I called her but no answer. Tried repeatedly to e-mail her but no answer. We never met. Back home I received e-mails from her claiming she had changed cell phone number, and she was “too sick” to check her e mail. Upon reflection no enigma here, I believe she had boyfriend troubles, or another mark was in town.
It appears to me if you have enough time to invest these web sites might be of some assistance. However, for hard core mongering, they are somewhat unreliable.[/QUOTE]
Good stuff from Finrod.
My policy is that the first meeting should be in a coffee shop or food court at the mall. It's cheap, and non threatening for everyon. DO NOT let her think for a minute that she owns you or can control you. If she suggests some expensive seafood restaurant, refuse. Duh, that's common sense for Western women as well. Do not be a desperate wussy! (no offense to anyone intended....)
Good for Finrod, but I did NOT have good luck scheduling more than one a day. This may be simply because I'm too good hearted. On two occasions, I met a really hot girl in the afternoon, but then excused myself to meet the evening girl. It didn't seem right to me to cancel the evening date, although hindsight tells me I should have. If I do this again, I will try to have a good excuse set up beforehand so as not to give intended target a perceived rejection. Or maybe I should just be cold blooded and cancel the evening date.
And if you are so lucky as to be able to schedule repeat visits to PI, by all means keep the phone numbers, keep in touch.
Patience is sometimes very rewarding.
X
[QUOTE=Finrod]Bill, I would not have picked just one, but then again, you cite time management. Have to remember many girls will say anything to get you to pick them. I also would not have made the first date a big-deal dinner date.
My first dates were almost always for coffee or drinks in a local mall with dinner (or lunch) to follow if I felt good about her. Sometimes I did 2 or even 3 dates in a day like that. Sometimes I bailed early if she turned out to be ugly or there was no chemistry (or in one case, 'she' was really a ladyboy).
I stayed in Makati for several weeks so I had the luxury of the time to wade through the frogettes. A few of the girls I met did sleep with me on the first date. With two exceptions, these were pros or semi-pros pretending to be girls looking for boyfriends. They were the ones who were always asking me for "a little help for their family" in the morning. Most girls who slept with me did so on the second date. These were better GFE in general, but again, a couple of these turned out to be semi-pros as well. A couple more girls texted me near the end of my stay to say they would sleep with me if they could see me again. But I didn't take them up on that.
So that leads me to believe that if these girls are not pros or semi-pros, then they may need some warming up before they will hop in the sack with you. And of course, there's no guarantee they will do that. Among all the ones I met, I found one or two that I might see again when I make it back. But that won't be for awhile so we'll see how patient they are.[/QUOTE]
This one strikes me as odd. First, she is 5'5 and only 100 lb. I know that sounds anorexic to some of you, but it's what I like. But look at the pictrue!
The only way this lady is 100lb is if she's 4'11.
She also writes TWICE that "love is blind". Well, us happily divorced guys know what this means, but I think she's trying to say "any old ugly git will do".
Or maybe the person writing the profile isn't the person in the picture. Who knows.
x
All indications are that this one is for real. She no longer posts this picture...has toned things down a bit for obvious reasons.
Now rolls with the Makati movers and shakers..... Chatted a bit with her and she's obviously intelligent. Never met her though, so this post may be worth the paper it's printed on.
NOTE* I'm really sorry to insult 95% of you with this most OBVIOUS warning, but please, PLEASE, if you know this woman, there is no need to post her name here.
NO names please! If you want to gossip, send me pm.
x
When I had a girl meet me for coffee or drinks, I would say something like "we'll have something to drink and see how it goes", implying that the date was a short one.
Whether or not I was doing two dates in a day, I always implied to the girl that I had a time limit because I had other plans later. You're under no obligation to say what they are if she asks. Answer the question with a joke or bust on her for asking. She doesn't own you or control you. And remember if you didn't have any plans later, you can always "ditch" them if things look good with her. If you had chemistry with the girl on the afternoon date, best thing to do is give her the gift of missing you.
Most of my dates knew I was meeting other girls, I made no effort to hide that. Most of the time, they understood even if they didn't like it, but some did show a jealous streak. If some girl does try to control you, no need to put up with that no matter how hot she is, there are more where she's from.
Of course all this requires time and patience. If that is in short supply with you, then you may be better off doing p4p. Plenty of places reported in the other threads.
X-man, good luck with that girl in your last post.
Doh! I just opened this folder for the first time. I've posted three pre-reports under General Info on my preparation and plans for the trip to the Philippines that begins tonight!
I've been using Cherry Blossoms with great success -- at least online. We shall see. There are always fall backs. Anyway, if you're interested, check out my preliminary reports on General Info under Titmouse.
'Mouse
TM, I'm looking forward to hearing how things turn out. Someday lets share notes on our CB girls.
I'm no longer a paying memeber at CB, but I still have many contacts, phone numbers and pictures .... it's overwhelming.
X
I had an old friend of mine tell me that her studio was busted today and it was on the news. I wont say what part of manila it was in for their protection.
Anybody see this? I'll watch the abs-cbn news in the morning.
Cherry Blossoms has been a gold mine of pussy for me in almost all parts of the Philippines, and continues to be so here in Jakarta.
It's true that there are lots of scammers and gold diggers. When I find out I just drop them, period. There are plenty of good ones. Even the ones who say they only want marriage will often settle for serial monogamy. I'm always honest about the fact that I'm meeting other girls, and it never seems to hinder me in my mission. I've found that it does pay to have several girls, ideally at least 3, in each town that you visit. That way if some girls don't work out or stand you up you will have backups.
I have been e-mailed by an old friend from ABC who says she now works at jasminewild.com but I have been unable to pull up this site.
Has anyone heard of this? Maybe she spelled it wrong?
Thanks
[QUOTE=ToroRojo]I have been e-mailed by an old friend from ABC who says she now works at jasminewild.com but I have been unable to pull up this site.
Has anyone heard of this? Maybe she spelled it wrong?
Thanks[/QUOTE]Try jasminelive.com
I think I've mentioned this one before, dont see a lot of response from you guys on this one but it is LOADED with PI kitties looking to chat, cyber sex etc. Lots of hookers working this one. a few regular girls looking to snag a foreigner BF/Husband and bored young ladies who like watching guys jerk off for money. I knew two girls who were working this site in CDO and one girl in Davao. All were cyber sexing and would meet and do the wild thing fo the right price.
You have to register at the site and you have to pay to be able to email the girls direct but some publish their cell number and get away with it. Go to "other ocuntries" click on phils, click on catagory (women looking for men)
about three thousand listings grouped regionally.
Spamhog
Sounds like it is worth a try. Since adultfriend finder is affiliated with asiafriend finder and also filipinofriend finder, can you access the same data base of women? I've heard some discouraging feedback with AFF from other posters. But I suppose there are always pitfalls with these types of websites.
"im just looking for a husband who can give me and my child a good life. im just searching for real love and a real respondible husband"
I'm no longer a paying member at cb, but I would be a little hesitatnt about a woman who needs a respondible man.
X
I am planning to go to Gensan over the holidays. Its just amazing the number of girls i have met, who, after a little sweet talk, even on the first chat, who are willing to bare their bodies, to show your the goods, AND I NEVER ASKED FOR SUCH A SHOW, EVER.
However, who am I to complain?
Try getting that in the good ole USA!
Congrats on your first post Panchax. I don't think anyone has done a review of GSC lately, so it'll be interesting to hear about that. I don't know how long you have, but GSC isn't far from Davao. It's a pretty cool place. Check out the Davao thread ... if you haven't already. I will be in Davao around Jan 1, so send me a pm with your email address or Philippines phone number and maybe we can hook up, drink cold beverages, and share stories.
What chat rooms are you referring to? Just Yahoo? X
[QUOTE=Panchax57]I am planning to go to Gensan over the holidays. Its just amazing the number of girls i have met, who, after a little sweet talk, even on the first chat, who are willing to bare their bodies,
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[QUOTE=X Man]Congrats on your first post Panchax. I don't think anyone has done a review of GSC lately, so it'll be interesting to hear about that. I don't know how long you have, but GSC isn't far from Davao. It's a pretty cool place. Check out the Davao thread ... if you haven't already. I will be in Davao around Jan 1, so send me a pm with your email address or Philippines phone number and maybe we can hook up, drink cold beverages, and share stories.
What chat rooms are you referring to? Just Yahoo? X[/QUOTE]Thanks X Man!
Yes, first time poster, long time lurker.
I am traving to Gensan for a sort of business trip, as i am in the Fish Supply Industry, and also to see two old friends, from NY, who reside in Gensan, both in the same line of work there.
This will my very first time in Phils, as i have mostly traveled to only HK in the past.
I have chatted with a number of ladies, looking for some female company while in Gensan, mostly thru both the Philipine chatrooms and regular Yahoo Romace chat. Some have been outstanding chat mates, while others seem just to be looking for a sugar daddy (I.E. Westener)
I will send you a pm soon, as i would love to share a drink, swap some stories with you, as well as perhaps get some pointers as a first time visiter to the Philipines
OK, I know about CB and ABC and I use Yahoo to chat with friends I know but...
Where do you go to "Meet" girls in Yahoo chat. I went to asian connections but didnt get too far.
[QUOTE=Hobby Knob]Where do you go to "Meet" girls in Yahoo chat. I went to asian connections but didnt get too far.[/QUOTE]
Hello HK,
Thats not a stupid question because it really is not evident.
While in YM click on messenger. In the drop down menu click on yahoo chat.
Then click 'join a room'. The yahoo chat menu should appear.
In the categories menu, DOUBLE click on regional (the sub menu comes up).
Click on Philippines and you have 8 rooms to pick from.
I have had just as much luck using Yahoo Romace chat, as well as Philipines Yahoo chat.
Two things that i have discovered, that may be of some help and/or interest.
The girls in Philipine Chatrooms tend to be much younger, if that is your kind of thing, but most wont tend to IM you first, as the older ladies in regular Romace chatrooms, have been know to do ( at least, thats been my observation in the past ).
Also, take into account the time zone difference. If you are looking for ladies from the far east, lets say you are chatting at 5 pm EST, most of these ladies will be in slumberland, as it will be 5 am in the Phils.
I have have my best luck chatting with filipinas at 4 am, till maybe lunchtime, EST
[QUOTE=Panchax57]I have had just as much luck using Yahoo Romace chat, as well as Philipines Yahoo chat.
Two things that i have discovered, that may be of some help and/or interest.
The girls in Philipine Chatrooms tend to be much younger, if that is your kind of thing, but most wont tend to IM you first, as the older ladies in regular Romace chatrooms, have been know to do ( at least, thats been my observation in the past ).
Also, take into account the time zone difference. If you are looking for ladies from the far east, lets say you are chatting at 5 pm EST, most of these ladies will be in slumberland, as it will be 5 am in the Phils.
I have have my best luck chatting with filipinas at 4 am, till maybe lunchtime, EST[/QUOTE]
Pan:
Just a few things, you mention going to gen San regarding the fish business
(I would assume tuna as that is THE big industry there) Used to live in Davao and traveled to Gen San a few times. I drove it by car but best way is to get there by bus,(Unless you got one of the smaller airlines like asian spirit that may be flying there) just be careful and travel during the day. You will undoubtedly go thru Digos. Reason I mention both places as to my knowledge there are a LOT of kitties in those places seeking western BF/Husband etc. Those places get almost NO western male tourists so U are a novelty . Any time I went to GS or Digos I was SWAMPED with flirty, friendly, young lovelies who wanted to be the next Mrs Spamhog.
A word of caution, I know of a network of Byots, some who dress as TV's and are working the chat lines in GS and DIGOS. The most infamous being one who uses the online handle as something rose something (example sweetrose, babyRose etc) Confirm you identities online!
PS lots of Japanese go to GS and buy tuna direct for the sushi trade, they have their own network of course, but I always saw them accompanied by a gaggle of girls.
Good luck you in for a treat!
Spamhog
I saw VERY few in Jakarta on Cherryblossoms (Mahku must be more diligent in his search than I am). TONS in the PRC, but I am not really into Chinese girls. Quite a few from Peru, surprisingly. There are some from Colombia but TERRIBLE quaslity; if Latin America is your aim cybercupido.com blows doors on these others (ALL the afdultfriendfinder sites are ripoffs from every report I have heard-until SpamHog's positive one below) but you must communicate in Spanish (you can cheat by using freetranslation.com).
But 90% of the girls on CB are in the PI.
The big surprise from my 90 days on CB was meeting a 30Yo non pro in Thailand who calls me virtually every day (since I gave her my cell number). I will go spend a week with her December before spending Xmas with my honeyko in Mindanao.
Never had any need for the yahoo chatrooms, though some CB girls ask you to meet them there (I drop them when they suggest that). By avoiding AFF and yahoo, I think you reduce the % of girls who are pros and scammers.
I have fucked several women from yahoo chat. I also find the scammers a great source of information and many of them now know that. I play them along too and I have got great leads from them.
There must be entire cafes devoted to scamming. I have c2cd two girls in the same cafe and heard them compare notes with everyone in the room. Spend a few hours on c2c and you will see plenty of Pinoy women parading themselves like so many pieces of mutton.
One recent babe was so fast off the mark looking for money she shocked me. I like to time how quickly they take to mention Western Union and similar services.
I also try to phone their cell phones to establish trust before stringing them along some more.
Spamhog mentions some backward places in Mindanao. They are long ways to go for a bit of pussy and a fight with Japanese tuna hunters. Of course one would be an oddity there as, wtf would anyone want to go there for? It is not that free pussy in in short supply.
I regard the cafes as cheap entertainment for many of the ladies with a bit of upside of roping in a sucker. Good luck to them I say.
Finally, a bit of good internet news. I lived in Latin America many years ago and I had a very pretty maid who had a little baby when I left. Her sister contacted me by email today. Now what a strange world it is when the poorest of the poor can track you down over the Internet.
One thing that is often seen as a problem is the chaperone. Some of the ladies will ask, “Can I bring a friend/cousin/sister?” You will find guys who say they would absolutely refuse. On a second date (assuming time is limited as it is with me) I tend to agree. But, there are some good reasons to go along with the chaperone idea.
First, the chaperone may be hotter than the target (the chat friend). This creates a dilemma of course, but there is a solution. It’s called a camera. Take pictures and then offer to send the pictures. Get all their email addresses. While they’re writing, ask for the phone number too. Of course this would work best when target is off in the CR. If things don’t work out with target…well, you know what to do. Sorry to state the obvious, but this would probably work better with “friends of target” rather than “sister of target”. For me, I make repeat visits, so I’m not targeting the friend the next night ~ although, I’m sure it has been done.
Second, the chaperone may be the only way target is able to meet you. Ha, ha, if you’re still reading this far, I saved the best for last. You might thing someone who needs a chaperone is over protected, so not worth your time…right? Duh. In every chaperone situation that I’ve had, the chaperone was older, wiser, more experienced, and was in no way interfering with the romance, other than the fact that she was THERE. In many cases, the chaperone was pushing (emotionally or verbally or physically) the target toward me.
scenario A: Target and chaperone “friend” came down from Bulacan to Manila. Target was very attractive, but super shy. Friend was about 5 foot, 80lb despite pumping out a kid. I like them slim, but she was almost anorexic. Chaperone was good fun talking to, and I would have loved to get rid of the target and play with the munchkin. The target was annoying the hell out of me. She couldn’t talk…one word answers to questions. We all ended up in my room after dinner, but things weren’t going well. I excused myself and went to LA café. Target sends texts…seemed to be the only way she could communicate. I ignored. I came back to the room quite late, but I was rewarded for my nonchalance...I got a good screw out of the target. The chaperone respectfully pretended to be asleep during the entire episode.
Bizarlly, I wake up a few hours later and both are dressed and ready to leave (about 6:30). Chaperone has to run her sari sari store. I ask target to stay (morning hard on) but no, she wants to go with chaperone. Chaperone drops her phone at this time and it no longer works. She’s been trying to call somebody who owes her money at the sari sari store. I’m still disoriented, still with some stinky on my dinky…I begin to wonder if I’m in a David Lynch movie.
Chaperone emailed me several months later to say she wanted to spend some time with me. Last I heard the chaperone is in Saudi Arabia and the target is working in a coffee shop in Angeles.
In this scenario, there is no way I would have laid this girl if the chaperone had not cooperated. The target basically did what the chaperone told her to do.
[QUOTE=Surfer]I saw VERY few in Jakarta on Cherryblossoms (Mahku must be more diligent in his search than I am). TONS in the PRC, but I am not really into Chinese girls. Quite a few from Peru, surprisingly. There are some from Colombia but TERRIBLE quaslity; if Latin America is your aim cybercupido.com blows doors on these others (ALL the afdultfriendfinder sites are ripoffs from every report I have heard-until SpamHog's positive one below) but you must communicate in Spanish (you can cheat by using freetranslation.com). [/QUOTE]
You're right that the number of Indonesian girls in CB is small. I guess I just got lucky, especially the one Muslim girl who seems to get extra horny in Ramadan. CB worked out fairly well in China, and was a smashing success in the Philippines.
Thanks for the tip on cybercupido. My 2 months in South America starts on Oct. 25th. I'm not expecting much from there in CB, just one Peruvian girl who actually isn't a member there anymore.
About chaperones, I agree with X Man that they need not be a hindrance to your plans. Remember, the average Filipina is super jealous and even best friends can be competitive about landing guys. If the target sees sparks between the chaperone and you, she may be motivated to 'do things' to help her chances of keeping you. Just make sure that second and subsequent dates are one to one.
Another pearl of wisdom from Mahku. Can I be your apprentice?
Maybe ISG should create a new category above "senior member". Let's call it "Wizard" or "Supreme Wizard" or some other foolishness. I'd nominate Mahku, CL, GE, AR.
X
[QUOTE=Mahku]If the target sees sparks between the chaperone and you, she may be motivated to 'do things' to help her chances of keeping you. Just make sure that second and subsequent dates are one to one.[/QUOTE]
Hi,
I just post the link here, read my post in the fotosection.
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=523515&postcount=229[/url]
Happy and safe hunting!!
B.
Blink, read your report. I'll spare you my opinion but......
Maybe anyone here who is thinking of sending chatgirl money or thinks a chat girl may really love them can post the screenname here.
That way, if anybody else has the same "girl friend" they can PM the details to each other.
[QUOTE=Hobby Knob]Blink, read your report. I'll spare you my opinion but......
Maybe anyone here who is thinking of sending chatgirl money or thinks a chat girl may really love them can post the screenname here.
That way, if anybody else has the same "girl friend" they can PM the details to each other.[/QUOTE]
Gentlemen prehaps there should be a thread devoted to PROVEN scammers etc. where they are outed, a thread to prevent both newbie and "old hands" alike. What is Admins position on such a thing and not just on the Phils board, I know Thailand is LOADED with 'em.
Spamhog
Spamhog, your suggestion was one of the things I had in mind when I asked for this thread. I can't see any reason why anyone would object, although guys should have ample proof before posting a name or handle.
I'd like to see blink give us a name because the girl in the pics looks familiar...black hair, brown eyes...
Also, I have a suggestion on how you might respond to scammers. Don't let them know that YOU know. If you acuse them of scamming then they are getting feedback and they will likely change (improve) their tactics. I've had some pretty lame attempts...and I can only suspect there is someone in the background saying, "well, you should tell him....". I just had a really hot one today tell me about her family losing her house in last month's typhoon. I simply said, "I'm so sorry to hear that."...and then a few lines later, "Oh, I have to go now....".
And, on the plus side, a scammer tends to be on the weak side when it comes to morals and ethics. These might be EXACTLY the kind you might want to meet for a one night stand.
X
[QUOTE=Spam Hog]Gentlemen prehaps there should be a thread devoted to PROVEN scammers etc. where they are outed, a thread to prevent both newbie and "old hands" alike. What is Admins position on such a thing and not just on the Phils board, I know Thailand is LOADED with 'em.
Spamhog[/QUOTE]
Hi guys,
LOL Xmen ok. the name of the scam beauty is Karen Diaz , she is on acm online as sweetbaby and on streammate drewlover (but not active an more)
I saw her not online lately, perhaps she didnt pay the bill or get banned from acm cause I told them bout the scam or its just here pregnancy..who knows.
If you want to post a list of scammers you can post all the gurls name on chat site here cause they all lie....so we should concentrate on the real con artists.
A threat with scammers isnt a bad idea, like scammers and runners also in the p4p business. Some guys might be suprised how many true loves his "honeyko" has.
Happy hunting!!
B.
I was changing money buying Hong Kong Dollars and RMB for my coming China trip at the Money Changer.When a group of 88 Internet Cafe Girls arrived to change their Dollars into pesos.This was at the Money Changer infront of Matrix.I saw 3 of the girls changing between 100-200 Dollars ,Their earnings from last night when a Girl walked in Changing 480 Dollars.I asked her Many customers????Madami Ka bang Guest??She Answered Sa Tapatan 3 tanga na Boyfriend sa Internet na Nagpapadala ng pera or Honestly 3 Stupid Internet Boyfriends Who sent her Money for Web Cam Shows etc.Yes Folks beware of these Scammers.She proceeded to tell me that she could out earn the other working girls by Conning suckers on the Internet.Cavaet Emptor
Later that day,I bumped into the Internet Scammer Girl at the Mini Stop and She greeted me as MR Real Name,I asked her How she knew and She told me that the Money Changer told her that I was one of her better customer and was a regular buyer of Chinese currency.I was intrigued by how She scammed people,So I bought her Dinner at Shinjuku Ramen House and asked her how she worked her boyfriends,Turned out she worked in a Burgos Bar and did the Internet thing to boost her income.So She had 2 real boyfriends,A Filipino and an Aussie as well as 15 Internet friends who sent her money regularly.She sometimes chats with 3 guys at the same time.We had a laugh on how gullible some people are,She has a Fake Death Certificate Which she has used to make her Aunt "die" over 40 times,500 pesos in Recto for the Fake Certificate and over 3,000 dollars in Victims money.I shall be in touch with her to continue my research.Looks 7-8 Conning skills 9+
Guys,
Just curious if any of you have found a good way to meet well educated Filipina professional (doctors and lawyers, not the other kind of pro!). I travel there about once a month, but am not able to form a social network that would allow me to meet these kind of "regular" girls. I know some girls of this type would be looking for a foreigner. I'd honestly be interested in a serious relationship.
I know this is a little of the purpose of ISG, but thought someone might have some ideas.
[QUOTE=Asian Explorer]Guys,
Just curious if any of you have found a good way to meet well educated Filipina professional (doctors and lawyers, not the other kind of pro!). I travel there about once a month, but am not able to form a social network that would allow me to meet these kind of "regular" girls. I know some girls of this type would be looking for a foreigner. I'd honestly be interested in a serious relationship.
I know this is a little of the purpose of ISG, but thought someone might have some ideas.[/QUOTE]
You won't meet those girls through mongers - or not very often anyway. Get to know some married expats in the town where you want to look. Once they accept you as a good guy and serious they will introduce you to more woman than you can keep up with. You will meet more well educated pinays in Makati and Ortegas than in other parts of the city.
[quote=asian explorer]guys,
just curious if any of you have found a good way to meet well educated filipina professional (doctors and lawyers, not the other kind of pro!). i travel there about once a month, but am not able to form a social network that would allow me to meet these kind of "regular" girls. i know some girls of this type would be looking for a foreigner. i'd honestly be interested in a serious relationship.
i know this is a little of the purpose of isg, but thought someone might have some ideas.[/quote]
most women of that status are not interested in foreigners, remember there is a class system in this country and most "professional" filipinas, who are from the well to do class will not stoop to association with a foreigner. such a woman, educated, successful, from a good family and most of all "monied" will have her choice of pinoy swains of a peer status. there are exceptions however.
i know of several instances where "widowed" or "marriage annulled" (divorced)
ladies of stature have turned to foreigners. it seems that many filipina actresses also seek foreigner "boyfriends" from what the tabloids say.
the previous advice you received concerning getting to know professionals through association with other professionals, likely other expats is probably your best course. yes manila with its "old money" families probably has a plethora of professional ladies, but don't forget the "queen of the south" cebu, lots of "old money" here and spanish mestiza's are some of the best looking women in the world.
it helps to be catholic, professional and well to do yourself.
spamhog
Spam Hog, J Boy,
Good points. I'm not an expert on Filipino culture, but have been hanging around it for a while. I know you're right about monied/upper class girls. Seems like, from what I've seen though, that there are a fair number of Filipina doctors who come from middle class backgrounds. Doctors in the Philippines don't make a lot, so it would seem there'd be some girls of this sort out there looking for options.
[QUOTE=Asian Explorer]Spam Hog, J Boy,
Good points. I'm not an expert on Filipino culture, but have been hanging around it for a while. I know you're right about monied/upper class girls. Seems like, from what I've seen though, that there are a fair number of Filipina doctors who come from middle class backgrounds. Doctors in the Philippines don't make a lot, so it would seem there'd be some girls of this sort out there looking for options.[/QUOTE]
understand that the PI has NO shortage on decent upstanding and educated women, they dont have to be from the "upper class" or doctors, lawyers or consumate professional business women to be what I think you are looking for. Most doctors in the Pi dont make that much, there are an overwhelming number of lady dentists in the PI also, they can be considered upper strata financially.
I believe your chances which such ladies to be better, however, accept the fact that most will be older, perhaps forties or so, perhaps widowed and with children.
good luck
Spamhog
I've met many and believe that I married the best one for me. She is a farm girl from Ilocos, good family, was an OFW in Sing. and HK. There were others, former mayor's daughter on Negros, one from Romblon, a few in Davao and a couple from Cebu, all who were "ladies" and had an abundance of "class", despite some humble backgrounds.
I met a few from "money" also, but I think their expectations were different than mine.
Side Issue: Cebu Marriott had a beautiful 5'6" or so, early thirties MD on call, saw her on each trip for allergies. She used to work out in the gym, I was overinvolved at the time so didn't avail of a friend's offer for a "social introduction". She did have that "distant attitude" though, LOL. (Maybe word of my G/F (beautiful 22 YO, looked 16 though) and "Thursday Night Takeout" had gotten around, LOL.)
sh wrote:
most women of that status are not interested in foreigners, remember there is a class system in this country and most "professional" filipinas, who are from the well to do class will not stoop to association with a foreigner. such a woman, educated, successful, from a good family and most of all "monied" will have her choice of pinoy swains of a peer status.
maybe i have been lucky because i am a lawyer (although i hate being called "attorney" by most everybody so i do not volunteer that information except where advantageous to do so), but i have found upper class women in manila very receptive to having a foreigner as a bf. actually, quite often upper class folks want to introduce me to unmarried female friends, relatives etc.
sh lives in cebu, and thus likely knows better than me, but in my experience many upper class filipinas prefer foreign bfs to pinoys as it has more cachet (quite unlike in thailand-if sh's post was about upper class thais i would wholeheartedly agree, but imho filipinas and indonesians do not seem to suffer from that stigma.
Guys,
Thanks for the replies. Appreciate the discussion.
This is what she wrote:
hi im looking of a loving caring responsible man and he willing to except me and my family.im a loving person and caing girl i love to read novel like reader digest.
???what strikes me as strange is this woman is 36 and (reportedly) has no children.
What does she mean "accept me and my family"?
Me thinks she is being way too honest.....
so, check her out at CB C00633523
The second hottest woman I found at CB was apparently a businesswoman out of Digos, but working all over Mindanao. She's very sweet, very patient, but she's likely a scammer.
I never gave here a cent, but I would have loved to meet her.
Love ya Charry.
Would that be ID number 088002 X Man? I´ve chatted with her some also. I never got the vibe that she was doing any kind of scamming, but I never had the chance to meet in person. Digos is just far enough from Davao to be a pain. When I was around in July and August she seemed to be hooked up with a guy. And when there´s already enough in Davao to keep a guy busy why bother shipping them in from elsewhere? Anyway, if she is a scammer than her act is very, very good. She doesn´t make any neophyte mistakes.
I haven´t seen the other one. But I would be very suspicious about her photo being recent or even of the same girl.
well, i agree with the, " it helps to be catholic, professional and well-to-do yourself" part, but in my experience, even upper-class, educated filipinas are very interested in foreigner bfs. every time i go to the doctor, bank, attorney, other offices, meet rich filipinos at nice restos, parties, etc, i am always asked are you married, would you like to meet so-and-so in the office or a relative, etc. there is a well-to-do widow who lives in my condo building who always invites me to visit her rest house, go shopping in singapore with her, etc. (her treat!) and she is easily old enough to be my mother! so, there may be a class system, but i don't think it descriminates against foreigners as a rule.
[quote=spam hog]most women of that status are not interested in foreigners, remember there is a class system in this country and most "professional" filipinas, who are from the well to do class will not stoop to association with a foreigner. such a woman, educated, successful, from a good family and most of all "monied" will have her choice of pinoy swains of a peer status. there are exceptions however.
i know of several instances where "widowed" or "marriage annulled" (divorced)
ladies of stature have turned to foreigners. it seems that many filipina actresses also seek foreigner "boyfriends" from what the tabloids say.
the previous advice you received concerning getting to know professionals through association with other professionals, likely other expats is probably your best course. yes manila with its "old money" families probably has a plethora of professional ladies, but don't forget the "queen of the south" cebu, lots of "old money" here and spanish mestiza's are some of the best looking women in the world.
it helps to be catholic, professional and well to do yourself.
spamhog[/quote]
Yes, she's either very good or she was taking the [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] out of me. As far as I know she got hurt by some guy and she's been a little jaded since then. Told me she wanted a vibrator for Christmas. That really surpised me.
charry.: so seriously, are u gonna let me borrow something from u?
charry.: u can collect it back when u visit?
X: Up to you.
charry.: i really need it
X: OK
charry.: but i understand if u cant
X: What is your problem and what makes you think I can "collect it back"?
charry.: because i have my word... it will be a big help to me if u can
charry.: and i should keep the people who helped me... thats why i will do what i promise just to prove i am real
charry.: and maybe i can borrow again if i can get your trust and if i can already prove
X: What do you want to borrow?
charry.: cash
X: Well, getting late for me. Thanks for the chat. Good night.
charry.: ok
charry.: have a nice evening
[QUOTE=Mahku]Would that be ID number X Man? I´ve chatted with her some also. I never got the vibe that she was doing any kind of scamming, but I never had the chance to meet in person. Digos is just far enough from Davao to be a pain. When I was around in July and August she seemed to be hooked up with a guy. And when there´s already enough in Davao to keep a guy busy why bother shipping them in from elsewhere? Anyway, if she is a scammer than her act is very, very good. She doesn´t make any neophyte mistakes.
I haven´t seen the other one. But I would be very suspicious about her photo being recent or even of the same girl.[/QUOTE]
It AMAZES me that guys send money to a girl they've never met. I know girls, ones that I would even call "good" girls who see no moral problem with lying to guys over the internet for money. Girls who would NEVER try that bola bola with me, or any guy they met in person, yet, over the internet, it's ok somehow. It's Philippine morality. That and ANYthing can be justified in the name of survival.
Just don't send money to internet chicks. Even if they are good girls, they won't respect you if you do it and will always see you as a Moneyko. Generousity has serious diminishing returns here. If you give too freely it will cause you problems. They will respect you declining (in a face-saving way) and have more respect for you if you aren't a doormat!
[QUOTE=X Man]Yes, she's either very good or she was taking the [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] out of me. As far as I know she got hurt by some guy and she's been a little jaded since then. Told me she wanted a vibrator for Christmas. That really surpised me.
charry.: so seriously, are u gonna let me borrow something from u?
charry.: u can collect it back when u visit?
X: Up to you.
charry.: i really need it
X: OK
charry.: but i understand if u cant
X: What is your problem and what makes you think I can "collect it back"?
charry.: because i have my word... it will be a big help to me if u can
charry.: and i should keep the people who helped me... thats why i will do what i promise just to prove i am real
charry.: and maybe i can borrow again if i can get your trust and if i can already prove
X: What do you want to borrow?
charry.: cash
X: Well, getting late for me. Thanks for the chat. Good night.
charry.: ok
charry.: have a nice evening[/QUOTE]
Well, thanks for the sermon. Now, could you please post something more useful than common sense?
Or, maybe tell us about these "good girls" who scam people on the Internet. What's good about them?
X
[QUOTE=Davidr123]It AMAZES me that guys send money to a girl they've never met. ![/QUOTE]
X Man,
Unfortunately, this is not common sense to everyone or they wouldn't be sending money to girls from the net all the time. I think it's a good idea to pass along the knowledge I have gained from living here and learning the culture...that sending money doesn't earn respect, it only makes you a target. I really don't think that is common knowledge at least, if not common sense.
[QUOTE=X Man]Well, thanks for the sermon. Now, could you please post something more useful than common sense?
Or, maybe tell us about these "good girls" who scam people on the Internet. What's good about them?
X[/QUOTE]
I have been a lurker here for a while so I'll throw in my penny's worth about them. I joined CB and looked at about 600 women, narrowed it down to about 40 and am chatting with one who I met who I hook up with when in Manila. Casual GF type for now. This is from what most of the girls have told me and I have learned:
1) you have to be able to get them on cam, about 30% of the photo's are fake so I don't care how good she looks, you have to get her on cam. If you're weeding through the photo's and she doesn't have any that aren't casual/spontaneous (her with her friends or her out for dinner) then chances are the photo's are fake since they've come from a magazine and magazines don't print casual photo's of whoever she is pretending to be.
2) they need to be able to get to wherever you fly to i.e. they need to be within a 5 hour bus ride of your hotel ( on average 5 hrs in a bus is about 300 pesos each way/ 6 USD)
3) yep there are some lovely girls in some parts of the Philippines but have a look at where you can safely visit. I don't live there but I go to Manila often, cities like Gen Santos, Zamboanga and plenty of places on Mindanao are a little risky for gwapos from abroad. There are a heap of nice girls from there but even your embassy will tell you it can be risky. Obviously if you have lived in the Philippines for years it is a different story.
4) She needs to be doing something or have some financial assistance from home so you can have normal conversation with her that doesn't end up in "when will you send money"?
5) she needs to be happy to pick and choose, a few of the hotties weren't interested or were too busy weeding through their replies. If you don't get a response keep looking. Remember that some girls get 80 to 100 replies in a day so even though you might be what she is after she may have to search through 2 or 300 replies to find you if she hasn't checked her emails daily so finding the right guy doesn't always happen.
6) they are usually pretty shy to start with, that's just their culture, so put up with the one word replies in conversation. it should get better the next time you chat and if it doesn't then move on.
Just my opinion though.
You're right, and I'm sorry for being so harsh.
These guys who get scammed probably need more than your message to mend their ways...make a brick upside the head??? Love is blind I suppose.
But, if you got even one guy to think twice, then your post was worthwile.
X
[QUOTE=Davidr123]X Man,
Unfortunately, this is not common sense to everyone or they wouldn't be sending money to girls from the net all the time. I think it's a good idea to pass along the knowledge I have gained from living here and learning the culture...that sending money doesn't earn respect, it only makes you a target. I really don't think that is common knowledge at least, if not common sense.[/QUOTE]
OK I have got to chime in here. I meet a lot of people from the PI in Yahoo, My space, and hot or not. I mostly just bull shit with them but I have defiantly found a few that are way out there and just looking for a quick buck. For senior members I will send pictures of the worst of them. She tried real hard to play me like a fiddle but thank god I saw through her. Beware of Shelly she is a snake in the grass for sure. Like I said Senior members I’ll be more than happy to forward pictures to.
Why not just post her photo on the board? Seems like a good public service to me!
[QUOTE=Firedawg]OK I have got to chime in here. I meet a lot of people from the PI in Yahoo, My space, and hot or not. I mostly just bull shit with them but I have defiantly found a few that are way out there and just looking for a quick buck. For senior members I will send pictures of the worst of them. She tried real hard to play me like a fiddle but thank god I saw through her. Beware of Shelly she is a snake in the grass for sure. Like I said Senior members I’ll be more than happy to forward pictures to.[/QUOTE]
Ah love yahoo chat. It is great free entertainment. Some of my favourites have included:
• no money for food, only fae Internet.
• Friends in background.
• Pick me up in a car at rural airport. And award me an OBE (one behind the ear)
• Live in Pampanga or Angeles
• Live in Muslim area
• Offer sex almost immediately
• Previous foreign bf/husband. Where did ye meet him lassie?
• Pauses in replying/sending me someone else’s reply.
• Lived outside of Philippines (= hooker)
• Web cam/scam shows: $40 an hour quotes. Needed to feed family. This adds up to a lot of money if done once a day. This is a sure high priced scam.
• Permanent web or sms cell phone connection to yahoo
• Ripped photos with the logo still on them
• Tell tale tatts on good girls
• Asking me to forward money on any pretext. The weakest have included a deposit for rent for our love pad.
• Stock answers
• No surprise when lift mah kilt (joke)
• Use of bar girl slang.
• Used to walking on cam, like a performing monkey. Other monkeys doing the walk in the background.
• Give out a +63 # without thinking, so they’ve done it countless times before.
• Hookers who go to church
[QUOTE=Davidr123]Why not just post her photo on the board? Seems like a good public service to me![/QUOTE]OK here she is, she is trouble.
I'm watching a cam **** give a performance right now to some other **** who's paying for it. If these tarts had brains they's be fucking dangeorus. She likes Pink and Greenday, two punk bands so I spun some shit on that. She fed me a lot of bull and here she is doing al kinds of shit for some other wanker. She's a nice kid but admits she has to cater to "weirdos" (her word) to pay the bills. She gets fuck all but kind words out of ae this Jock.
She doesnae know ah'm watching. There's no bulge in ma hkilt. I just find the whole fucking thing hilarious.
Ye spend 2 hours on yahoo and ye get 10 dates and a life full of bs. If we take any of it serious, yer mental.
Another intersting one is to ask them to go skin to skin. They all agree on no condoms. Go figure.
I have a friend who seems to be getting taken to the cleaners by this one. I'm wondering if anyone else has any experience with her.
Was corresponding last year with this one until she asked for money. I got a little snippy and so did s/he. Eventually it reached the point where s/he called me - out of the clear blue sky - "redneck trash."
Anyone guy who sends money to these bandits deserves all he gets.
[QUOTE=Firedawg]OK here she is, she is trouble.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Davidr123]I have a friend who seems to be getting taken to the cleaners by this one.[/QUOTE]
Hey David,
Which website or chat room did your friend meet the scammer in question?
[QUOTE=Firedawg]OK here she is, she is trouble.[/QUOTE]
I think I know that girl, but her name isn't Shelly. Has a child by a friend of mine. I'd have to see more pics to be sure. I've got some if you want to see them, but I'd have to go private, in case it is not her.
this dialog originated on the davao thread and i moved it here: h = henderson and m = mahku
henderson asks some great questions. i hope some of you others can also give us your modus operandi.
h***i used those places nearly every day, but all i ever saw were kids (mostly boys playing games on the net). was it because i went during the day when the regular girls were working or were they the wrong internet places as they were all geared towards game playing?
yes, some internet cafes cater to different crowds. i was in one place in manila and the girl next to me was flashing her tits. i got her contact info as soon as she finished. unfortunately, she used such foul language in our conversation that i was immediately turned off. personally, i haven't picked up any girls in net cafes. when you guys post, please recommend a good net cafe. hmmm, not that i said that i have to dig through my notes and find the name of the place i was using in manila.
h***like you both say, there’s a very high percentage of girls from mindanao on websites like asianeuro and filipinaheart and they do look very gfe.
there also seem to be a lot at cherry blossom.
h***but how do you line up several girls from the same city and see them all? if you don’t like one after the first day isn’t it hard to get rid of her? remember you’ve already built up a relationship with her on the net so she now feels she’s your gf. and if she meets you at the airport then even more so. she will also know your hotel etc. and in a small place (like cdo) she or her friends are going to see you when you go the discos/clubs at night hunting after you've dumped her.
i don't know how mahku does it, but i would not let a girl pick me up at the airport. you are creating too much expectation. i tend to keep it friendly online and stay a bit vague about my arrival. sometimes this backfires as they might have made other plans, or they don't remember me. you should try to have several contact numbers for each city. anyway, i set up a meeting, often at the mall. i often go to the food court because it's relaxed and inexpensive. she may have brought along a chaperone or two, so i don't plan on an expensive restaurant for the first date. we eat and chat. do some light touch testing. if she's hot, but quiet, go see a movie. if you want to bail out, say you have other plans. tell her you're going to meet a friend. as long as you haven't created too much expectation, this shouldn't create any drama.
i chatted with one lady who got serious online with a guy. she traveled from tagum to davao to meet him at the airport. she had told her family and friends about this. as she's waiting at the airport, the guy calls and says he met a nice woman in manila, so cancelled the davao trip. wow, what a jerk.
oh, one more thing about the mall is they might start hinting about you buying something. that's probably a bad sign, but i keep thinking of it as an investment. so far been low returns for me. last time, the lady and her friend were looking at some underwear. i told her i'd buy them for her as long as she modelled them for me later. she didn't agree, nor disagree, so i shelled out about 300 pesos. she insisted on bringing the friend to the next meeting so i gave up...had other women to keep me busy.
anyway, creating expectation may speed things up for you, but can also create some unwanted drama if you decide you'd prefer to call the next number on your list. my modus operandi has resulted in about 40% success rate - often in the first 24 hours.
m***also, i don't know how assertive you were when you were out hunting but you really do have to make your move. the girls are shy (meaning regular girls, not bargirls). they may make eye contact but the rest is up to you. if you see a chance don't let the moment pass.
yes, mahku -- the jedi master of picking up ladies! i print my own business cards with my phone number. once i had a quick chat with a girl who worked at a jewelry counter in the mall. i gave her my card and left when a customer came up. she texted me about ten minutes later and we had dinner together that night. she still sends me email sometimes.
also, think up some lines and be ready to use them. they don't have to be super clever, just something to get a conversation started. then off to a coffee shop or something.
h***you know, i was never sure of how forward i could be without running the risk of causing offence in a strict catholic country. and the trouble is that they are all smiley and friendly all the time so i didn’t know whether that was a come on or them just being polite. after all. the guys are also very friendly and smiley and i’m sure that wasn’t come ons.
well, once you meet her, do the touch test! start with a handshake, later a light touch on the shoulder. if there aren't too many other people around, hold her hand. when you tease her does she hit you? good sign. when you get in a taxi, does she scoot all the way over to the other side? bad sign. of course if there is any resistance, scale back or give up.
h***you’re right there, mahku, the beginning of the week was completely dead in davao.
holidays can be bad too. the first time i went to davao was on mayday.
x
The business card thing is a good idea. It's especially useful for the girls working in shops. I've heard of guys being kicked out of SM by security because they were hitting on the girls. To avoid this just say a quick hello, chat a couple of minutes and then hand over the card. More often than not you'll get a reply within hours. Be careful about handing out too many if you're not prepared to be talking and texting on the phone all the time.
i met this girl on one of those dating websites. as most of you know the scam that goes like this. i am so and so and i live in so and so. my mother use to beat me, and my step father use to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] me, so i ran away from the local village and walked to a bigger city where i live now. well i am not really living because i am homeless and live in the park near the sea. she also says that she gets up early to go door to door and tries to get people to give her clothes to wash. funny thing is i always see her online at all hours of the day and night. also she says she washes in the local river. she has even threatened suicide. anyway she is always asking me to give her money for all her problems. yea right! she says she has no phone number and no address and bla, bla, bla. i hit the ignore button and that is the end of that.
anyway she sent me these pictures and so now i am sharing them with you all for your viewing pleasure.
so if she is so broke why is she always online? does she look homeless and starving in these pictures? lol! she also bugs me for money and says things like; i am getting kicked out of where i live, and can you help me please i am starving. it’s always the same story. oh and yea, she said she had these professionaly done. it looks like they did a good job too. guess she is not as broke as she claims.
she really looks like she could be a good fuck, in the ass that is. what do you think? maybe she should be gangbanged?
Just want to confirm - are you sure those are her pictures? I mean, have you chatted with her on cam?
X
X,
I like the brick upside the head thingy! Some guys will still wake afterwards, wipe the blood off, bandage their heads and contact their Honeyko's online to send more money. I just don't understand guys like that. I stay completely away from the chat scene unless it's a girl I have met previously, and even then I'm weary of chatting them up because the chat will eventually lead to money (most, but not all girls). It's just a big waste of time if you ask me. Why guys try to set themselves up in advance beats the hell outta me. Hell, you can be into pussy as soon as you deplane if you make eye contact and chat the girls up at the airport, convenience store, mall, coffee shop, or anyplace else for that matter. IT'S JUST TOO DAMN EASY!
Always on the Quest
Yella Man
[QUOTE=X Man]You're right, and I'm sorry for being so harsh.
These guys who get scammed probably need more than your message to mend their ways...make a brick upside the head??? Love is blind I suppose.
But, if you got even one guy to think twice, then your post was worthwile.
X[/QUOTE]
But I'm shy.
[QUOTE=Yella Man] Hell, you can be into pussy as soon as you deplane if you make eye contact and chat the girls up at the airport, convenience store, mall, coffee shop, or anyplace else for that matter.
[/QUOTE]
Yella man says online chat is a waste of time. I disagree. See pic.
X
So she's trying to hit on you for money! Big deal. She's desperate and the foreign guys have the money - thats the name of the game - if you don't ask, you don't receive! Up to you - if you don't like it just say NO! Call her bluff and tell her you don't believe her and if she asks you for money again you'll find another honey ko!
But suggesting she should be gangbanged? No woman deserves that no matter what she has done!
Come off it - just move on to the next one!!
Cheers,
Pete
These pictures of this girl have been floating around the internet for a while. I first saw them at least 2 years ago. So anybody could have sent them. Keep ignoring.
[QUOTE=Member #2001]I. Anyway she is always asking me to give her money for all her problems. Yea right! She says she has no phone number and no address and bla, bla, bla. I hit the ignore button and that is the end of that.
Anyway she sent me these pictures and so now I am sharing them with you all for your viewing pleasure.
Oh and yea, she said she had these professionaly done. It looks like they did a good job too. Guess she is not as broke as she claims.
She really looks like she could be a good fuck, in the ass that is. What do you think? Maybe she should be gangbanged?[/QUOTE]
Don't be fooled by this chick. Shes on face party. Myspace and tag world with same pics. No idea who she is but she states she from Phils, or Malaysia or Indo. Depending on space and time. Definately not someone whos poor. Keep looking. If it looks like a scam and smells like a scam. Well you know the rest.
[QUOTE=X Man]Just want to confirm - are you sure those are her pictures? I mean, have you chatted with her on cam?
X[/QUOTE]IU am not exactly sure. These are the pictures that she sent me and one of them was on the dating site, so you maybe right about the pictures not being her own. To me they look authentic though. Guess it really does not matter though
You can be shy, deaf, mute, and in a wheel chair and still stumble into pussy in the Philippines! :-)
Always on the Quest
Yella Man
[QUOTE=X Man]But I'm shy.[/QUOTE]
I know this girl is out for the money. The only question I have is how and when I will screw her over and believe me it can be done. Maybe she will even go to jail. Its all up to me. I am not a vindictave person, however there are others that are and it might save them some greif if I do this.
Ok I got suckered in to 50 dollars but it might be 50 dollars well spend if I can stop others from giving her money. It was the last time BTW.
Here is a link to screw others that make this type of behaivior like a bussiness.
[url]http://www.womenrussia.com/blacklist.htm[/url]
You have to scroll done maybe a bit but the information is all there
Give us the email and someone can try to get her on webcam.
X
I would, but I dont think jackson would let me give out email addresses. I have an idea though.
I would also like to know if there is anyway to find an IP address from a chat room like yahoo or some other chat programs. If I had her ISP I could have the authorities track her down and for they might do something about it.
I have girls webcam me sometimes and I want to know if there are any easy to use programs out there that would let me save the stream from the webcam. I would like to save a webcam stream to my hard drive. Anybody got any ideas about how to do this?
Thanks
What's the big deal? Meet her. Do her. Pay her for services rendered. Walk away...
God I'm good
Hi,
You can use webcam recorder program. Just google for it and it works ok.
I'm heading to Dubai next week and plan on having serious fun;) called my last girl there a real A lister from Ukrain, met her in premier and we plan on meeting. Last time she reluctantly agreed on 700 but it was really great. We made it like 5 times in that night. Will try same price again:p.
Now really concerned about afternoon fun reading the reports about jocky's and TGIT. But I remember an old post about a place where u can find iranians or women in abaya as they say but don't recall the name.
Anyway any update on LE activity. Is it still ok to walk with the girl or go to her home?
Also what is the hottest place to go as a nightspot? Is Zince still ok?
[QUOTE=Member #2001]I would, but I dont think jackson would let me give out email addresses. I have an idea though.
I would also like to know if there is anyway to find an IP address from a chat room like yahoo or some other chat programs. If I had her ISP I could have the authorities track her down and for they might do something about it.
I have girls webcam me sometimes and I want to know if there are any easy to use programs out there that would let me save the stream from the webcam. I would like to save a webcam stream to my hard drive. Anybody got any ideas about how to do this?
Thanks[/QUOTE]
..to really get the whole story out from girls -- be it on cherryblossoms or from any other chat site.
i was working 2 months and many many hours now on girls from cagayan de oro and towns in the vicinity as iligan and gingoog. at high times i had more then 10 on my chat and perhaps 100 in the contact list.
more then 80% of the girls are useless for a monger like me:
- either they are the few real well-protected girls and only allowed to jump in the hay after you marry them (although i popped one last time at daytime..because daytime it is ok to be in the hotel, but not at night -- figure..)
- or..and thats the majority, they are only in westernunion remittances. they tell you heaps of stories. just cut them short and say: "look hon, if you wanna meet the man of your life then borrow whatever you need and come to xxx-place at that time. if you there, i'll pay back."
once that gal will tell you, that you don't understand their problem, just get them off your list. only a waste of time.
the orgasnisational problem now is to make them feel that they are the only one. all of them would like to pick me up at the airport. i told 3 of them a much later arrival time, but got all their cell numbers. only one got the right time. will see if she's there. then will text the others..
also told the others that i don't know which hotel i go to stay. only once no 1 is setteld, then i will "invite" no 2 and so on. we'll see how it will work out.
keep you posted, mates....
ohh..the screen shots are from gals offering a free peep but the asking for 50$-- lol...
I have had nothing but success with FH. As some of you may have seen, I have a non-pro that tolerates my mongering, and a semi-pro bisexual that is just sooo fun. I met both on FH. I have many back-burnered I know I can count on.
So some have asked me how to 'play the game'. I am not an expert, but this is what I have learned, much of which has been confirmed by my resident female bisexual wingman.
In the beginning I was lost and confused. I figured all chicks were cruising for hubbies or boyfriends. It was actually my 'wingman' that explained it to me, and she was right.
There are four types of girls on FH:
1. Prostititutes
2. Scammers
3. Girls looking for a guy that be their bf or husband to take care of their families
4. Girls looking for short time boyfriends and give them support money (they do not see this as prostitution, although for you and me it is the same)
Numbers three and four are typically interchangeable though, so a girl looking for a husband will settle for a short time boyfriend with an ATM card depending on the situation, and of course #4 would jump on any foreigner who offered her marriage.
Once you have some practice, figuring these things out will be easy. #1 is easy to spot, and I find that #2 is as well. When it doubt, throw it out, there are PLENTY of chicks on FH.
Number 4 hopes that she can seduce you into #3, but if not she has a foreigner take her places and give her money, and also we do things in bed no Pinoy ever would. Both can be identified by the phrase "GOD FEARING". This does not mean she is celibate, trust me.
Number 1 can easily be found by searching for religion "None" or "Other".
Number 2 will act enamored immediately, and then lay a lot of sadness on you, or send you a link to a webcam, yada yada. Only use Yahoo webcam, and make them wave hello.
Be honest. In my profile I explicitly state that I travel to Phils on occassion and am looking for 'casual romance', or 'someone to go out to dinner and have fun'. When they ask me what I am looking for I tell them, politely, the absolute truth. Some bail, but all the better for me, I do not want to put a lot of time or effort getting the pants off, and I can move on the next. But almost every time they still IMd me, acting mahia'en but wanting me to visit. As long as your are polite and not too dirty, they will dig your honesty.
You can have sex with virtually any of the above, even the scammers if you play your cards right. Just play the game, meet them, take them shopping, and give them some cash for their college fund. My non-pro even says 'Thank you Daddy' when I buy her shit. It is cool, I am a 30-something sugar daddy, and she actually shows me respect by being frugal with my money, she is a great bargain hunter... I sent her out to Glorietta to buy clothes before our Palawan trip with 5000P, and she came back with new shoes, a jacket, a swimsuit, pants, a suitcase, and other stuff, along with 3500P in change. She brought me back my change!!!!
YMMV, as I am in my 30s, and these girls find my light skin and hair attractive. But if you be polite, be masculine, and be honest, you will find at least ONE gem with a little time and effort.
Good luck,
2J
[QUOTE=Yella Man]X,
I like the brick upside the head thingy! Some guys will still wake afterwards, wipe the blood off, bandage their heads and contact their Honeyko's online to send more money. I just don't understand guys like that. I stay completely away from the chat scene unless it's a girl I have met previously, and even then I'm weary of chatting them up because the chat will eventually lead to money (most, but not all girls). It's just a big waste of time if you ask me. Why guys try to set themselves up in advance beats the hell outta me. Hell, you can be into pussy as soon as you deplane if you make eye contact and chat the girls up at the airport, convenience store, mall, coffee shop, or anyplace else for that matter. It's just too damn easy!
Always on the Quest
Yella Man[/QUOTE]Your damn right , Yella . Fuck chat rooms, fuck Cherry blossoms-get out there and dance with them. If youve got two left feet, then makem smile with your sense of humour. Get amongst it. You wont regret a thing.
Too Jaded,
Whats FH stand for and more importantly whats it cost?
This is an excellent post. Lots of good info here. I especially liked that he provided his age/physical details to give ISG'ers some kind comparative guage.
I think I'd add a fifth category. I've met some middle class ladies who were mostly curious or simply attracted to the exotic foreign man. You get this in Japan as well -- although not nearly as much as you did ten years ago. (hmmm, maybe it's cause I'm ten years older, balder, chubbier......).
Back to the Phil., certain women are online ALL the time. Well, they may have some sugar daddy funding them and they stay online thinking they'll find another gold mine. On the other hand, she may work in an office where she has online access. I've met a few who had their own businesses. One in Mindanao, had her own Net cafe and she was absolutely maniac as soon as I touched her tit.
[QUOTE=Too Jaded]I have had nothing but success with FH. As some of you may have seen, I have a non-pro that tolerates my mongering, and a semi-pro bisexual that is just sooo fun. I met both on FH. I have many back-burnered I know I can count on.
So some have asked me how to 'play the game'. I am not an expert, but this is what I have learned, much of which has been confirmed by my resident female bisexual wingman.
In the beginning I was lost and confused. I figured all chicks were cruising for hubbies or boyfriends. It was actually my 'wingman' that explained it to me, and she was right.
There are four types of girls on FH:
1. Prostititutes
2. Scammers
3. Girls looking for a guy that be their bf or husband to take care of their families
4. Girls looking for short time boyfriends and give them support money (they do not see this as prostitution, although for you and me it is the same)
Numbers three and four are typically interchangeable though, so a girl looking for a husband will settle for a short time boyfriend with an ATM card depending on the situation, and of course #4 would jump on any foreigner who offered her marriage.
Once you have some practice, figuring these things out will be easy. #1 is easy to spot, and I find that #2 is as well. When it doubt, throw it out, there are PLENTY of chicks on FH.
Number 4 hopes that she can seduce you into #3, but if not she has a foreigner take her places and give her money, and also we do things in bed no Pinoy ever would. Both can be identified by the phrase "GOD FEARING". This does not mean she is celibate, trust me.
Number 1 can easily be found by searching for religion "None" or "Other".
Number 2 will act enamored immediately, and then lay a lot of sadness on you, or send you a link to a webcam, yada yada. Only use Yahoo webcam, and make them wave hello.
Be honest. In my profile I explicitly state that I travel to Phils on occassion and am looking for 'casual romance', or 'someone to go out to dinner and have fun'. When they ask me what I am looking for I tell them, politely, the absolute truth. Some bail, but all the better for me, I do not want to put a lot of time or effort getting the pants off, and I can move on the next. But almost every time they still IMd me, acting mahia'en but wanting me to visit. As long as your are polite and not too dirty, they will dig your honesty.
You can have sex with virtually any of the above, even the scammers if you play your cards right. Just play the game, meet them, take them shopping, and give them some cash for their college fund. My non-pro even says 'Thank you Daddy' when I buy her shit. It is cool, I am a 30-something sugar daddy, and she actually shows me respect by being frugal with my money, she is a great bargain hunter... I sent her out to Glorietta to buy clothes before our Palawan trip with 5000P, and she came back with new shoes, a jacket, a swimsuit, pants, a suitcase, and other stuff, along with 3500P in change. She brought me back my change!!!!
YMMV, as I am in my 30s, and these girls find my light skin and hair attractive. But if you be polite, be masculine, and be honest, you will find at least ONE gem with a little time and effort.
Good luck,
2J[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=X Man]I think I'd add a fifth category. I've met some middle class ladies who were mostly curious or simply attracted to the exotic foreign man. [/QUOTE]You are absolutely right, brother. I had one of those on my 'back burner', a 40-something in great shape that likes Jazz and wanted to try some sort of tantric sex thing. She started to be a little bossy with me though, and I am not looking for the mother type, nor do I have the time or stamina for such an endeavor!
Thanks for calling that out, it is an important group!
2J
I did not break it down like Too Jaded. But I had similar success to him on FH. Of course it helped that I was staying several weeks in Manila at the time.
As I had very little time to travel outside of Manila, I restricted my chats and searches to those who were in Manila and immediate vicinity, and could pay their own way to see me. I know I left a lot of cute honeys elsewhere in the country on the table. Maybe next time I'll find those. If they were only looking for husbands or had the scammer sound about them, I screened that out quickly. So I met a fair number of girls for ST and spent a few pesos taking them out for coffee, lunch or dinner. For that "helping her family" thing in the morning, I rarely gave more than 1000p which was usually accepted with a smile and "when will I see you again?" To which you say, I'll think about it. With a smile.
Be clean, well groomed, polite and honest. Bring a gentle sense of humor. Have them teach you a few words of Tagalog. The girls you meet after all the screening will generally accept the honesty even if they don't quite like it because they are so used to deception and games being played on them.
FH is based in the UK so they charge in pounds. I think it was 15.95 gbp last year. A tad expensive at today's exchange rate, but look on the bright side: you only need to sign up for one, maybe two months at the most, prior to and during your visit.
[QUOTE=Silly Fool]
Whats FH stand for and more importantly whats it cost?[/QUOTE]
No worries, brother. I was confused too when I first started seeing all these acronyms tossed about. FH=filipinaheart dot com
Have fun! The cost is minimal, I forget how much but it is on the site.
2J
first before adding my well known psuedo intellectual horses ass philisophy allow me to hail, as our new king of mongers, toojaded, his pix of bisexual gf is what it is all about. (pauses in typing and bows three times & continues).
catagorizing filipinas (or any other women for that matter) in four or fives types may cover it for some of you, but i would point out rather than conjecture that there are many sub catagories within those types as well as varying age ranges which sometimes changes things as well as geographic location (cultural background).
sometimes the distincting between catagories gets blurred, lotta grey area as to what a prostitute is & her true motivation are, yeah i know money, money. but some are scammers and will rip you off and some will give you a gfe, some are trying to meet the man of their dreams, poor gal is dillussional imho. same for the girlfriend catagory. as i used to tell 'em when i was single...define girlfreind...(or boyfriend).
a lot has been said about internet scammers, i preach and teach on that one quite a bit. once again, there are sub catagories, take the exptreme "pure" scammer such as the infamous judy altraca, who worked the cb website under various alais and bilked how many guys out of how many thousands of dollars. she and her (filipino) husband are very rich and own houses and businesses in davao, butuan and other places thanks to so many suckers so eager to part with their money over her bs. basically judy (and her ilk) are not interested in meeting "mr right" but in it soley for the money.
how do we truly classify the girl who gets on the net and offers to show her 32 b's and hairless slit or offers to "talk dirty" for money while some guy jerks off? i dont see her as a scammer, sorry, in many western countries such thing is a legitimate business, 1-900 etc. the big difference is with the phils version, you get to see the girl and you have the option to send her money for her services (thats exactly what she is providing) and if you are in the phils, very likely you can meet her and do all the nasty things you were chatting about. in the us you are likely talking to a fat, overweight mom with a sexy voice, whom you will never see, it's all a big unattainable fantasy. so again i ask you, which is the scammer?
somewhere in the middle is that little harlot who gets on yahoo and asks guy after guy for money coz mom is sick and the water buffalo is lame. they do this coz some idiot always falls for it and sends them money. whose fault is that? our's???? or hers??? you can be sure that this girl will meet you, probably rock your world and if things go right, she will likely become your gf (once again see above regarding gf) while you are here. yes she wants to marry you, why not? what is her alternative? marry a filipino jeepney driver and live in a tin roof shack the rest of her life? the books are full of guys who marry girls under the same circumstances. some of 'em work out beleive it or not.
the honest ones (much like the one that too jaded hooked into) will tell you up front what they are all about, and they will tell you that they are doing the same thing you are doing, checking things out, having fun until the right one comes along, and if he don't well...if she is your thing, bingo! if not, get another one.
now i been hearing fh bandied about alot. well since xmas, the spamhog and his mrs have been hard at work, assisting several female relatives, friends etc by puting their profiles on fh. now so far this is five ladies, all **** 24, all are either students or employed or "nice girls" (two are virgins) none of whom have ever been near the internet before and none have any expereince with foreigners. two more should be added in the near future, one is 27, a former mistress to rich chinese filipino, (but never a 'working girl) the other over 30 and a clerk in a store, a degree in marketing.
the point is there are varying degree's and cross sections of women here, many of them turn to the internet as a place to find man of their dreams, i think a lot of them are going to be disappointed, judging from what is on "our" end fellas.
case in point, my 23 yo neice, first time on web cam and yahoo chat over the weekend, trying to find a "nice guy" first asshole she gets is some clown from uk, asks her if he comes to phils will she sleep with him, later asks if she "sucks". class act.
regards
spamhog
Spam Hog,
Thanks buddy-appreciate your input on that shitty internet site, Cherry Blossoms. I think you will save our fellow mongers a lot of hard earned cash with your insightful report.
I've read SH's post twice and he doesn't make any direct comments about CB.
From an earlier post, SF had some problem with a girl in Mindanao and wasn't happy with how CB handeled the problem. Unfortuanately, he hasn't given us any details.
Anyone who reads this board would know that you don't send money to these gals. There is a clear warning on the CB web site as well. And as for the problem, does SF expect someone from CB to go to Mindanao and slap the woman.
Several people, including me, have described success with online women right here on this thread. If anyone has a different opinion, at least explain why.
X
[QUOTE=Silly Fool]Spam Hog,
Thanks buddy-appreciate your input on that shitty internet site, Cherry Blossoms. I think you will save our fellow mongers a lot of hard earned cash with your insightful report.[/QUOTE]
[quote=member #2001]i met this girl on one of those dating websites. as most of you know the scam that goes like this. i am so and so and i live in so and so. my mother use to beat me, and my step father use to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] me, so i ran away from the local village and walked to a bigger city where i live now. well i am not really living because i am homeless and live in the park near the sea. she also says that she gets up early to go door to door and tries to get people to give her clothes to wash. funny thing is i always see her online at all hours of the day and night. also she says she washes in the local river. she has even threatened suicide. anyway she is always asking me to give her money for all her problems. yea right! she says she has no phone number and no address and bla, bla, bla. i hit the ignore button and that is the end of that.
anyway she sent me these pictures and so now i am sharing them with you all for your viewing pleasure.
so if she is so broke why is she always online? does she look homeless and starving in these pictures? lol! she also bugs me for money and says things like; i am getting kicked out of where i live, and can you help me please i am starving. it’s always the same story. oh and yea, she said she had these professionaly done. it looks like they did a good job too. guess she is not as broke as she claims.
she really looks like she could be a good fuck, in the ass that is. what do you think? maybe she should be gangbanged?[/quote]yeah. i had a run in with this person. said she lived in cagayan de oro. i had copies of all the photos that #2001 posted.
she's was and is yesterday's news.
dd
[QUOTE=X Man]I've read SH's post twice and he doesn't make any direct comments about CB.
From an earlier post, SF had some problem with a girl in Mindanao and wasn't happy with how CB handeled the problem. Unfortuanately, he hasn't given us any details.
Anyone who reads this board would know that you don't send money to these gals. There is a clear warning on the CB web site as well. And as for the problem, does SF expect someone from CB to go to Mindanao and slap the woman.
Several people, including me, have described success with online women right here on this thread. If anyone has a different opinion, at least explain why.
X[/QUOTE]
Okay Xman I will repeat, I say repeat as if you go back and look through various threads I knock cherry blossoms quite a bit in various posts.
Xman you know my background and some of the things I have done in private consulting work, well one of them was background for various clients on prospective fiances, integrity checks etc when I was connected with a licensed PI agency in the phils, ( I NO LONGER DO THIS so fellas please dont ask.) If you look hard enough you will see one of my old ads on this website.
Anyhow, those investigative expereinces are what I draw on to some degree in citing many of the issues and facts that I do among these threads.
I would estimate that out of perhaps 120 cases, a great portion of them involved guys wanting to come to the Phils to meet some chickie they found on the internet. Hands down, FH and CB were the two most often cited sources for the budding romance.
I'm estimating here as I dont have immediate access to records (which the company doesn't keep for client anonimity) but lets say 40 cases were from CB. from the Davao, CDO and CEBU region and environs.
Of those 40 cases, I would say 90% turned sour, ie, the girl was an out and out scammer which I usually easily proved, married or with a live in partner or an undesirable who could not have qualified for a fiance/spousal visas (prostitute or criminal record) at least TEN cases it wasn't a female at all but a network of TV's who posted pictures of Filipina actresses or former beauty queens.
There are some real winners, I mention Judy Altraca in my post you quote, she has many alias and uses pictures of her friends etc, but every once in awhile she pops up on CB where she has been banned, outed and warned about. Judy and her husband still rake it in.
There is another girl in Butuan, can't remember her full name but the first is Carlotta something, REAL BIG TITS which she likes to show to sucker guys in, she is married and has bilked dozens of guys, her only source of income for her and her rugby sniffing boyfriend/pimp.
Then there was the poor sap who "barfined" some little tramp from Davao from Angeles city, paid the bar like five hundred US for her contract, bought her a $300 buck cell phone and a plane ticket to Davao to wait for a fiance visa. She came back to Davao, signed up on CB (Where she had been before under a different name) and went to work on the Inet scamming guys for money. She also went back to live with her P100 wage a day jeepney driver while sending former sap love notes on that phone he bought her.
FH fared better, but it has its share of scammers and 'ne'r do wells', CB has been around for awhile and I think better known, maybe this is why they get a greater portion of the "Penpals from hell".
Anyhow, I have wanted to start a thread on scams, schemes, naming names and all to act as a clearing house for some of this material, I can't as I'm such a cheap bastard not a paying memeber. So if someone else who IS would, please do
Bottom line I HATE SEEING GUYS TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF!!!!!
Regards
Spamhog
Thanks SH -- interesting stuff.
I'm not trying to dispute your findings, but it sounds as if your former clients were planning to marry someone. Had they met the ladies and had they been to the Philippines to meet their ladies? Is it possible they asked for the investigation because their suspicions had already been raised?
I ask because my experiences seem to be quite different. That may simply because my style and goals are different.
In the last two years I've met over 20 CB ladies and become intimate with about 40% -- usually in the first 48 hours. My goal isn't marriage, but I am unmarried and would consider it if the right lady came along. So, I'm happy with CB. Have some asked for money? Of course.... One of my successes, Ruby in Davao (on the Euro site last time I checked) was a wonderful lay. I met her in the afternoon and had her panties off that same afternoon. After I was back "home", she made up all kinds of ridiculous shit...including pregnancy. We still chat sometime and if I go to Davao I know a girl who knows how to get her knickers off real quick.
Another quick lay told me that she was a waitress when we met. I played it like a newbie. Umm, turns out she was a waitress on Burgos. Great tits. How much you guys pay for Burgos girls? I gave her 500 for taxi fare -- and later...I would have given her another 500 just to get her to stop texting me every 10 minutes. (are the newer phones able to hold more messages -- I max out at less than 50 messages)
So, this is a web site which is about having sex with women. I think the online sites are a great source, especially if you want something a little different than the usual bar scene.
If you want to marry some girl, I guess you should sit down and have a cup of coffee with SH. He's obviously a gold mine of information.
BTW, SH, when I asked Jackson for this thread "chat rooms and pen pals", my idea was to share notes on the "chat" ladies both good and bad -- specific notes. Obviously the regulars in the net cafes are sharing notes about us!
I hope the guy who goes by the handle "silly fool" will give us some detail about his experiences.
X
You are right X man, MOST of these guys were someone looking for A WIFE.
A majority of them had NEVER been to the Phils (or any other country) before or had experience with foreign women. You are DOUBLY correct when you say that these "girls" had done something or acted in a way to raise suspicion. HOWEVER, in almost every case, there was a sustaining relationship, one that had been ongoing for sometime be it online or whatever. Also, I can tell you that a number of cases involved guys who HAD been to the Phils and were not dummies, a few were expereinced mongers. They wanted to make sure that their wife, GF or fiance was being a good girl COZ THEY KNEW THE DEAL. However, in these situations the RESULTS MIGHT SUPRISE YOU.
A lot of the ladies WERE being good little girls, there is a strong tendancy for filipina's when they find "Mr Right" to be the loyal faithful Filipina of legend.
BUT, IF THEY WERE SCAMMERS or came from a fishy background (read bar girls) that is usually the ones that screwed a filipino BF or worked the internet putting on boob shows for money etc. As I have said before and say again, you can take the girl out of the bar but you can't take the bar out of the girl.
Also, it may interest you to know that NOT ALL OF THE SCAMMERS ask guys for money, the worst ones get you emotionally involved, you come to the PI and they get you FOR THE BIG ONE. You bring a $1500 diamond and give it to her, presents, treat her like a queen, give her $500 for passport fees etc all that crap, next thing you know shes gone out the door back to her husband/BF who have a good time with your money and already setting up the next sucker, you're out three grand plus plane fare or whatever.
ALWAYS remember that the ultimate goal of a majority of the Ladies on those websites IS GETTING MARRIED OR GETTING IN A SUSTAINED RELATIONSHIP, EVEN THE SCAMMERS Of course the ladies you met on CB or whatever dropped their panties. These girls are NOT stupid, they know if they ingratiate you with their favors THERE is a chance they can get you thinkling about coming back or at least THINKING about the ring. (from what you have been saying it might be working eh?).
At some point in your relationship with a filipina, she is gonna ask for money, gifts if not directly to drop hints. The scammers of course just ask anyone, but the "good" ones, the ones you meet in person etc they are testing you, seeing how generous you are and in some cases how sincere you are about them. Understand that they equate feeling to some degree with taking care of them. Remember this is a Catholic society WHERE THE MAN IS THE HEAD OF THE HOUSEHOLD, YOU are expected to demonstrate your love by making sure your loved ones are taken care of, provided for. Me Tarzan, you Jane, I catch fish, you cook and clean 'em.
Anyhow, if your goal is to meet women online, set things up for your visit and sample flower after flower of course CB and FH and others are an excellent sources, just beware of which ones to avoid and what games they play.
regards
Spamhog
[QUOTE=Spam Hog]
ALWAYS remember that the ultimate goal of a majority of the Ladies on those websites IS GETTING MARRIED OR GETTING IN A SUSTAINED RELATIONSHIP, EVEN THE SCAMMERS Of course the ladies you met on CB or whatever dropped their panties. These girls are NOT stupid, they know if they ingratiate you with their favors THERE is a chance they can get you thinkling about coming back or at least THINKING about the ring. (from what you have been saying it might be working eh?).
At some point in your relationship with a filipina, she is gonna ask for money, gifts if not directly to drop hints. [/QUOTE]
I am not in any way as experienced as you two titans in the ways of the Philippines as my only experience hitherto has been with Pinays working overseas. You guys are right in that I over-generalized in my last post on the topic, but it was meant to be an unqualified guide rather than a detailed expose.
In my limited experience I concur with you guys have said. There seems to be a tiered system of what the girls are looking for... with the provincial girls seeming to hold a bit more to the 'good girl' image while the urban girls are more progressive. Of course they would ideally love to find that rich, handsome kano. But in the interim these girls will get what they can.
If a guy wants to start a serious romance, there are those who are indeed looking for the Big Walmart in the Sky (an spinoff of an old military motto). Furthermore, if that guy allows himself to be suckered, there are unscrupulous ladies that will take advantage. [i]A fool and his money are soon parted.[/i]
Before my arrival I was not offensive, but I was honest that I was looking for a vacation and some casual romance. When asked to elaborate I explained fully. I found that even most of the nice provincial girls still invited me to visit whatever island they are living. There was a caveat that they would not promise me anything, which I took to mean "Take me on an unaffordable vacation and wine me, dine me, seduce me, and help me pay for my tuition/rent/clothes/cell phone/et cetera".
Of course, they will try and take it to the next level. My non-pro student and I get along very well. Rather than accept my offer to buy her a cheap laptop computer (total cost: $500USD for two weeks of fun, + hotel and cheap airfare) she pragmatically said that she would rather have money for her 'college fund'. That equated to $300USD, but she felt that the laptop was too much and the liquidity of cash was more valuable to her. She showed me respect many times by being frugal with the miscellaneous cash I gave her and giving back what she did not spend. She took VERY good care of me in every way imaginable, and I know she was always [i]mostly[/i] honest with me. Then she started with the subtle hints of what a great girlfriend she can be, and how she hopes I will not forget her, and will stay in contact with her, then that I would come back and see her again. In other words, she would be interested in a LTR. Meanwhile she gives me enough room to come up to AC to monger (with my assurances to practice safe sex) so as not to scare me off. This same experience extends, albeit to a lesser degree, with my resident female bisexual wingman I posted about in the Makati thread.
My guess is that almost any relationship from FH, save with the most notorious scammer or working girl such as you mentioned (and I hope I am not overestimating my abilities when I say I could sniff them out anyway), would work out roughly the same. There is a basic human ladder of needs, and these girls will take as much as you are willing to offer so long as you show respect and honesty, and do not act too scummy by inviting her up to the room as a trio of bargirls are walking out.
If I am wrong, I've been incredibly lucky despite my ignorance.
Thanks for the insight, brothers.
2J
Oh, I'm not so easy....
BTW, I plan a short Manila / AC trip at the end of March. Let me know if you are in the neighborhood. I'd love to go down to the Visayans, but will probably give it a miss this time. I haven't been to AC in about two years.
X
[QUOTE=Spam Hog]
These girls are NOT stupid, they know if they ingratiate you with their favors THERE is a chance they can get you thinkling about coming back or at least THINKING about the ring. (from what you have been saying it might be working eh?).
Spamhog[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Member #2001]I would, but I dont think jackson would let me give out email addresses. I have an idea though.
I would also like to know if there is anyway to find an IP address from a chat room like yahoo or some other chat programs. If I had her ISP I could have the authorities track her down and for they might do something about it.
I have girls webcam me sometimes and I want to know if there are any easy to use programs out there that would let me save the stream from the webcam. I would like to save a webcam stream to my hard drive. Anybody got any ideas about how to do this?
Thanks[/QUOTE]Log in with [url]www.meebo.com[/url] using your yahoo id and password, when the messenger loads in the browser, right click on her id and you will get her ISP if she is active.
Thanks
I have used CB. Just before a trip I get a three month subscription. To be honest, the amount of data is overwhelming. I have several hundred chat records / pics, etc. I often move the girls (or they move me) to Yahoo Messenger, where I have differnt files. HOW DO YOU KEEP track of all these women? I'm the kind of guy who doesn't like to throw things away.
The other big site is FilipinaHeart. I met a girl today who said she is on a Cebu-specific site. I can't remember the name.
SO, what is your filing system and what service do you use?
X
At this moment -- 2:30 pm Philippine time, Cherry blossom is having a major glitch. Checking you "in" file will get you random post form different people -- inclucing guys. Some pretty lame guys out there I might add. I guess they feel the same about me.
The problem is, you might be giving personal contact info to a lady and now the whole world can check it out.
Anyone with an active CB subscription, please pm me. Maybe we can get a free year subscription with this kind of screw up?
X Man
Duh, I done screwed up.
Over time I've been getting these invitations from various girls to join Friendster. I had always just deleted them without taking any actions. But a few months ago I finally gave in and started an account. I logged in a couple of times and then pretty much forgot about it.
The problem is this. On everyone's home page in Friendster they show a friends list, all of the people that one has added as a friend on Friendster, complete with photo and the ability to message them. Every now and then one of my lady friends invited me to add her as a friend and I did so without thinking much about it. I hadn't logged in to friendster for months, but a dozen friends were visible to anyone who looked at my page there. And anyone's page can be found by simply typing in their yahoo or hotmail address in the search function.
Well, last week the inevitable happened. One of these friends took it upon herself to start messaging the other friends in my list, asking how she knew me and what we did together. And from there the shit did hit the fan. Soon messages were flying in and between 3 different continents using about 5 languages, full of all of the dirty details. The thing that united all of them was what they thought of Mahku.
Now mind you, I never made a commitment to any one lady or promised anyone to be my one and only. But Filipina (or Latina or Chinese) jealousy knows no bounds. It's still enough to infuriate a girl if she gets concrete information about what I'm doint with other girls.
Luckily, my relationships with most of these women had already run their course. I had already seen and done most of them a couple of times so I will be more likely to move on to newer contacts anyway. But it's still a good lesson learned. If I do see any of these friendster girls again I'll have to take anti-Bobbiting measures.
I haven't seen any way to make my Friendster friends list invisible to other viewers. I think I'll just have to junk my account.
Good luck to all out there and monger carefully.
IMHO you really need to be careful to MINIMIZE the number of those types of sites you belong to and be careful not to post much identifying info. Thanks for the warning (I have always rejected invites to join Friendster).
Seems like they have helped you make a fresh start (:
[QUOTE=Mahku]Duh, I done screwed up.
.. I had already seen and done most of them a couple of times so I will be more likely to move on to newer contacts anyway. .[/QUOTE]
Oh shit Mahku. But what smart trix did you use to do them really? Much work to meet them, and was just one meeting enough?
Thanks for any advice here!
GF
Yes Trim I tried looking into the settings but I couldn't find a way to let people see my profile AND block the friend list. I could block access to my profile but then there's not point in even being there. I think I'll just junk the whole thing. I think I'll just do like Surfer, refuse all add requests and not be in any site that I'm not paying good attention to.
Girlfinder, no smart tricks since I'm neither smart nor tricky. I just be myself and am always honest with the girls about how I'm travelling around and meeting lots of them. Most of the time it works and except for this friendster episode I don't get in any trouble.
Mahku, Friendster can be used to your advantage also. There was a chick I chatted with long term. She had big tits and a bunch of her "school" friends showing on her Friendster page. Very nice and sociable girl. Arm candy. Never asked for $ but always mentioned some need she was collecting for, like graduation $ or whatever. But the one time we met it was "no sex". haha. I was going to ignore my instincts and consider a relationship, until i re-checked her Friendster page, and saw pics of a handsome pinoy holding her.
Maybe I will hit up some of the cute friends she has on her list. Anyway I have found a fairly cute girl who is an orphan. She says, "I wan't to help my family". I say, "who is in your family?". She says, "My auntie and lolo (grandad)." Only two? I think. Deal! (but what are the odds it will remain only two with the hands out?)
Profile name is Mels Ann and number is 642515. I made myself sound naive and new to PI and she started asking for money for her college graduation yearbook during the second time we chatted. Value needed was somewhere around 12 thousand pesos but told me I could send what I could. Kept repeating the whole "I love you", "I want you to meet my family", "hope I'm not a burden to you" bullshit. Once again, never send money to anyone you never met, no matter how sweet and convincing they look.
She gave me the following information for western union:
NAME; JADELYN PLASAVAS
ADD: 009 SAMPAGUITA STREET,MATINA.DAVAO CITY PHILIPPINES 8000
[QUOTE=Panman]Profile name is Mels Ann and number is 642515. I made myself sound naive and new to PI and she started asking for money for her college graduation yearbook during the second time we chatted. Value needed was somewhere around 12 thousand pesos but told me I could send what I could. Kept repeating the whole "I love you", "I want you to meet my family", "hope I'm not a burden to you" bullshit. Once again, never send money to anyone you never met, no matter how sweet and convincing they look.
She gave me the following information for western union:
NAME; JADELYN PLASAVAS
ADD: 009 SAMPAGUITA STREET,MATINA.DAVAO CITY PHILIPPINES 8000[/QUOTE]
Looks like she should have spent a little more time studying and less time chatting..
But thanks for the warning. Now I will immediately stop sending money for yearbooks to filipinas I've never met :D
[QUOTE=Panman]Profile name is Mels Ann and number is 642515. I made myself sound naive and new to PI and she started asking for money for her college graduation yearbook during the second time we chatted. Value needed was somewhere around 12 thousand pesos but told me I could send what I could. Kept repeating the whole "I love you", "I want you to meet my family", "hope I'm not a burden to you" bullshit. Once again, never send money to anyone you never met, no matter how sweet and convincing they look.
She gave me the following information for western union:
NAME; JADELYN PLASAVAS
ADD: 009 SAMPAGUITA STREET,MATINA.DAVAO CITY PHILIPPINES 8000[/QUOTE]
there is a website that will tell you what to do if you are scammed or thing you are being scamed. It has a lot of useful information [url]http://www.womenrussia.com/blacklist.htm#scammed[/url]. I hope this will you and help everyone on this board.
[QUOTE=Member #2001]there is a website that will tell you what to do if you are scammed or thing you are being scamed. It has a lot of useful information [url]http://www.womenrussia.com/blacklist.htm#scammed[/url]. I hope this will you and help everyone on this board.[/QUOTE]
Usually, the good looking model types are generally scammers. Good looks sells and they got u hook line and sinker!
That's probably not her real picture either. Did you get to see her on a webcam? The photos are professional like from a magazine.
[QUOTE=Teddy Bear 99]That's probably not her real picture either. Did you get to see her on a webcam? The photos are professional like from a magazine.[/QUOTE]
No, didn't see her on cam, said she didn't have it. Yes, I noticed that too about the photos, but hey, didn't hurt to try.
[QUOTE=Member #2001]there is a website that will tell you what to do if you are scammed or thing you are being scamed. It has a lot of useful information [url]http://www.womenrussia.com/blacklist.htm#scammed[/url]. I hope this will you and help everyone on this board.[/QUOTE]
Quite amazing some of those stories, and to think there are people that fall for these tricks from someone they never met in person. Thanks for the link.
Man falls in love in chat room with married woman using actress pictures.
[url]http://www.reuters.com/article/internetNews/idUSSIN3861520070320[/url]
I'm always surprised at all the negativity about online gals. Let me take a wild guess...the guy who sent $45k to some 30ish Singaporean housewife was not on the ISG board, nor was he in sort of any reality that I know of. DUH!
I've reported in the past that I've had 40% success with online women when meeting them, usually within the first day.
Ouch, my last trip will really push down that number. I think it was one out of seven.
Caveats:
1) this trip was MLA / AC rather than my usual Visayans / Mindanao.
2) I had some unusual situations that pushed down numbers (2 cherry girls).
One girl was hot and a follow up meeting looked very promising. Then she asked for "help" for her family and I dropped her. There was another who in the throes of passion, as I had my hand on her crotch, and ....felt the pad, said, "You came at an unlucky time". She elaborated,,,,she had started bleeding that day. Sure enough, she suggested a meeting five days later, but I was already busy. Can I say 2 out of seven if the there was an offer?
Another was cherry but said, "I hope I'm not cherry next time you come". I'm pretty sure she has a very generous sugar daddy and she wants to keep her promise to him....and I don't doubt she'll keep her offer to me. This may be a number I'll take back later. SHe showed up for our date wearing a polka dot mini dress with a plunging neckline. At 5 7, and plenty of bosom she was a complete show stopper. I never had to worry about crossing the street....all vehicles and males and most females slowed down for look. At 18 she already knew her power... and seemed to appreciate the fact that I just laughed at what she was doing. Later she said, "even if I wasn't cherry, you couldn't do me because I'm on my period." The she raised her hemline to show me her crotch. She's playing a very dangerous game.
And there was the other cherry college girl who turned out to be 17. The web sites require the ladies to be 18, so she lied to be on the site. OF COURSE, I did not touch her, didn't try. She was an extremely intelligent young lady and plans to offer her most valuable "gift" to the man she marries. That would be a very luck man indeed.
****Warning: Besides the lady mentioned, I met an AC bar girl 19, who has been in the biz for 3 years! She said she borrowed the ID of her cousin in order to work in a bar. If you have any doubts, don't!
Then there was the call center girl, living in Makati, from Negros, who spent most of our time at Hard Rock Cafe sending text messages. I was glad to get rid of her, even though she was hot. One of the cutest girls, from Pampanga, had worked at ABCam. Once we started necking she suddenly asked for help for her family. How much? She quotes something exorbitant...and out the door she went.
So, not much luck with the online girls this time around.
I did manage to spend two nights with a travel agent I met. One of the tightest little holes I've had in a long time....
X Man
Every time I use to go to xmatch.com go to chat room you always see the gals from phili try to spam you if you want to watch them in private for $$ that you can send her money by westerunion, I wonder has anybody tried this con on the gal and say ok I send you money after she gives you info, you give her the phony westernunion number. After you get so called private show when you done watching and log off yahoo messenger when she goes to westerunion to get money SURPRISE! There is no money and the number is a phony. That will teach her to spam on adult chats sites! I was thinking of trying that and use the webcam capture to record the session.
She offers a service for money, so I wouldn't call that a scam. But, what you are suggesting sounds like a scam - well you already said it was...
If she simply asked for "help" then I guess you could define help in your own way.
My advice is find a better way to spend your time.
X
[QUOTE=Bumbo]Every time I use to go to xmatch.com go to chat room you always see the gals from phili try to spam you if you want to watch them in private for $$ that you can send her money by westerunion, I wonder has anybody tried this con on the gal and say ok I send you money after she gives you info, you give her the phony westernunion number. After you get so called private show when you done watching and log off yahoo messenger when she goes to westerunion to get money SURPRISE! There is no money and the number is a phony. That will teach her to spam on adult chats sites! I was thinking of trying that and use the webcam capture to record the session.[/QUOTE]
Please don't send money to a girl you have never met in person.
First of all, if a girl you have never met asks you for money, she is a scammer. Even if you have established a "relationship" with her. Case in point: I had a 6 month, almost daily web-cam chat with a young lady who in the end dumped me. (I found out she had been lying by checking her friendster, so friendster is good for something. Just don't put too many personal details on it.) We had cyber-sex a few times, but never actually met.
After the first few months I thought I knew her well, so I started sending her gifts and money. STUPID ME!! Cost me $800 in the end, for a few stupid online jerk-off sessions. And she never got completely naked!
I certainly hope all you guys here are savy enough not to even consider sending money to these online girls.
Thanks for swallowing a bit of pride and sending that. Please send us more of HER information. We'd love to see some of those pics you have.
My advice is pretend to stay on friendly terms with her. Then meet her in the Philippines. After all, you could get at least get one night of sex as a reward for your generosity. Then change hotels.... Later, after you've safely exited the Philippines, send her a message about the STD you have.
I've done some incredibly stupid things in my life, but somehow I haven't donated excessive amounts to women -- other than my ex. As for bar girls....
When I was still a teen, 20+ years ago, I had the uncommonly good fortune of finding my naive ass doing R&R in Subic Bay courtesy of the USN. I remember two of my shipmates (friends) spending money and lavishing gifts on one particular go-go girl in order to win her affections. She (and her friends) were quite good at keeping the friction low and the income high. I was dating one of the friends, and I remember wondering how these two guys could be so friggin "stupid" (to quote TeenieW).
And if you think AC is incredible....you should have seen Subic in it's heyday. One thing that was different was that in many of the bigger bars they had dance floors (for customers and the bar girls) and sometimes very good live bands. I wish we had more of that in AC so that some of us fat asses could lose some weight. I still remember one night dancing to B-52's ...rock lobster...."down, down, down..."
And since AC bars don't have a dance floor for customers (with a few exceptions) please don't get up on the stage. Customers go there to look at the ladies...not your drunken ass.
I guess this message has wandered all over the place...sorry.
X Man
[QUOTE=TeenieWeenie]Please don't send money to a girl you have never met in person.
First of all, if a girl you have never met asks you for money, she is a scammer. Even if you have established a "relationship" with her. Case in point: I had a 6 month, almost daily web-cam chat with a young lady who in the end dumped me. (I found out she had been lying by checking her friendster, so friendster is good for something. Just don't put too many personal details on it.) We had cyber-sex a few times, but never actually met.
After the first few months I thought I knew her well, so I started sending her gifts and money. STUPID ME!! Cost me $800 in the end, for a few stupid online jerk-off sessions. And she never got completely naked!
I certainly hope all you guys here are savy enough not to even consider sending money to these online girls.[/QUOTE]
Just wondering if anyone has had any experiences with answering ads on either of these two sites?
I joined face-pic.com awhile ago and before a recent trip to the Philippines I sent messages to several of the gals profiled on the site. I got a couple of replies of which one was legitimate and the lady I met was the same as the one photographed on the profile. It was a good experience and I ended up in the cot with her for free.
However the second gal who I corresponded with was not the same person whose photograph appeared on the profile. I should have known something was up because right from the get go her conversation was about me joining up to see her on a webcam site. Eventually she agreed to meet me despite me not joining up and immediately it was obvious the gal was definitely not the same hot lady pictured on the profile. It was a very short meeting!!!
My question is to whether any mongers have joined the fling.com site and have had luck meeting the same gals pictured? The are some beautiful gals listed and some look Philippina while others look more western. I am just wondering as to this is a scam like Friendfinder where you pay a joining fee and don't actually get to meet any of the members or just webcam gals touting for business like on face-pic or maybe true life gals looking for sex, a BF or husband?
Cany anyone help me out as I was considering taking out a 7 day trial membership for $9.95 just to see if could meet some of these local Philippino gals?
[QUOTE=TeenieWeenie]Please don't send money to a girl you have never met in person.
First of all, if a girl you have never met asks you for money, she is a scammer. Even if you have established a "relationship" with her. Case in point: I had a 6 month, almost daily web-cam chat with a young lady who in the end dumped me. (I found out she had been lying by checking her friendster, so friendster is good for something. Just don't put too many personal details on it.) We had cyber-sex a few times, but never actually met.
After the first few months I thought I knew her well, so I started sending her gifts and money. STUPID ME!! Cost me $800 in the end, for a few stupid online jerk-off sessions. And she never got completely naked!
I certainly hope all you guys here are savy enough not to even consider sending money to these online girls.[/QUOTE]
It takes a big man to admit something like this and for the benefit of others, hoping they dont make the same mistake. We should not judge TW too harshly as such vixens are very good at that sort of chicanery, that is the WORST type of scammer, the one who gets guys emotionally involved then bang-Zoom.
I think if we were all honest we would admit some of the foolish things we have done for pussy and how even the most expereinced of us got hoodwinked, happens all the time.
Bees11, this sounds like "pros" at work here, naturally they are gonna post pix of the most beautiful girls they can find to attrach clientele. I've mentioned this one before and in my mongering past had some good luck with it. [url]www.adultfreindfinder.com[/url], some of the girls were pro's, semi pro's, web cam cyber sex girls, some were just horney little vixens.
You have to pay to join it if you want to contact the girls directly
Good luck
Spamhog
A chat I just had with a girl in Yahoo Messenger. She can be found in Cherry Blossoms, ID #274493.
MJB: i hope i can go back to manila for work
Mahku: ok, that would be nice...we could meet there
MJB: yes but i want to go back there as soon as i have my fare
MJB: can you help my dear
Mahku: maybe some day if you're my wife
MJB: can you help me dear til you will come gere
Mahku: How many guys do you ask for this....dear?
MJB: no i only ask for you
Mahku: oh ok, well how much do you need? Is a million dollars enough?
MJB: no its not
MJB: i just need 2500 pesos its 50$
MJB: in your money
Mahku: oh ok then let's make it 2 million, you may need to buy a few drinks and snacks along the way
Mahku: OK, just as soon as I have 2 million dollars I'll send it to you...just be patient ok?
MJB: okay
Mahku: OK then, I'll go now....I have to go out and start looking for $2 million
MJB: i see take care
Mahku: yes you too, see you next time for the next chat
Mahku: maybe by then I'll even have $3 million for you
Mahku, she only wants $50 - but since you offerred to double it, send her $100. Then send me the remaining $1,999,900. I'll build a beachside mansion and you can stay there anytime.
Strangely, she hasn't been online at CB since March 3. Not the typical scammer MO.
I played along with one a while back. She insisted that I send airfare rather than ferry fare. She's probably still waiting at Western Union.
The dull ones are easy to suss out. The good ones are patient and pull a lot of heart strings -- those are the ones you have to be wary about.
Spamhog....can you recommend a detective in PI? A friend of a friend is looking for one.
X Man
[QUOTE=Mahku]A chat I just had with a girl in Yahoo Messenger. She can be found in Cherry Blossoms, ID #274493.
[/QUOTE]
I decided to give Fling.com a go and I took out a 7 day trial membership for the $9.95 to see if I could hook up with some high quality looking gals on my many trips to the Philippines who posted their profiles on the site.
After mailing to about 50 profiles that I thought might have potential, of the 30 replies I received, I think I only isolated only 3 gals that were either looking for a foreign boyfriend/husband or were happy to accept a p4p situation for sex. I was lucky enough to get the phones numbers off these 3 gals and I will attempt to see them on my next trip and go from there.
As I originally thought when I first looked at the site, the greater majority of the replies I received to my inital mail were only a front for gals looking webcam sex customers. Now while there is nothing wrong with that if you like that sort of thing, but cyber sex is not really my go as I prefer the flesh on flesh experience more!!!
Most of the gals' profiles indicated that they were looking for a b/f, but after some friendly chatting online with them, they were soon on the front foot asking me to sign up to their webcam link.
Also I have great doubts about the majority of the photos used by the girls on their profile. After surveying many profiles from several different countries, the same hot, sexy photos keep popping up many times over, obviously stolen, cut and pasted from other profiles.
My advice would be to avoid this site especially those looking to take out a 2-3 months Gold or Silver membership in the hope of finding even a legitimate 4p4 gal as you most likely to be disappointed.
[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?]Click Here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size]
Thanks for the post bees11,
How on earth do you ascertain wether the girls want boyfriend or p4p in only 7 days???
I've used CHerry Blossom and (despite what some others have said) found it rare to get the scammer / cam girl. As for p4p, I've never had it offerred, although some have indicated their willingness to travel with me. Is that how you determine p4p?
One of the first CB girls I had turned out to be a cam girl, but chatted with me when she didn't have a customer. She told me about her site once or twice, but I never paid a peso. She spent many hours chatting with me. She was on Negros, but I just found out she's in Manila.
I told her, "don't go to LA cafe". She quickly replied, "do you know that place?".
Says she's never been there, but I suspect the word is out all over Manila. If you want to meet a guapo man with money, go to LA cafe.
X Man
[QUOTE=Bees11]I decided to give Fling.com a go and I took out a 7 day trial membership for the $9.95 to see if I could hook up with some high quality looking gals on my many trips to the Philippines who posted their profiles on the site.
After mailing to about 50 profiles that I thought might have potential, of the 30 replies I received, I think I only isolated only 3 gals that were either looking for a foreign boyfriend/husband or were happy to accept a p4p situation for sex. I was lucky enough to get the phones numbers off these 3 gals and I will attempt to see them on my next trip and go from there.
As I originally thought when I first looked at the site, the greater majority of the replies I received to my inital mail were only a front for gals looking webcam sex customers. Now while there is nothing wrong with that if you like that sort of thing, but cyber sex is not really my go as I prefer the flesh on flesh experience more!!!
Most of the gals' profiles indicated that they were looking for a b/f, but after some friendly chatting online with them, they were soon on the front foot asking me to sign up to their webcam link.
Also I have great doubts about the majority of the photos used by the girls on their profile. After surveying many profiles from several different countries, the same hot, sexy photos keep popping up many times over, obviously stolen, cut and pasted from other profiles.
My advice would be to avoid this site especially those looking to take out a 2-3 months Gold or Silver membership in the hope of finding even a legitimate 4p4 gal as you most likely to be disappointed.
[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?]Click Here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size][/QUOTE]
Cherry Blossoms is one of the few sites where the girls will get booted off for asking for money and the like. That may be why you haven't run into a scammer yet. I have reported some of these girls and they were gone in short order there.
My take on the dating sites is basically this:
I don't think it is a good way to meet girls. Even the "good girls" or so they say, know the scammers. The scammers may even be a relative of theirs. (As I have experienced). These scammers whisper in their ear and counsel them on how to "handle" you and what to say.
I find that if a girl is good at the internet that is not the type of girl you want to get in any way involved with. I have found that bargirls ,who don't usually have the time to become good at the internet, have more integrity than the "good girl" internet girls. IMHO
Hmmm, interesting comment about the "good girls". I've met a few that fit your profile. At least one has had her skinny ass photos on the ISG message boards. A very lame attempt to get money....about the same time her "fiance" emailed me since she forwarded my photos (of her) to him with my email attached. Duh.
Your advice is good, but I assume you don't REALLY want to get "involved" with a bar girl either....am I right? I've met some good ones at CB. Also met a Burgos bar girl who pretended she was something else. She was fun and I spend a lot less that a Burgos bar fine. I hated the alligator tears though.
I wish CB would put the naughty ones in a seperate "red flag" place - let's call it pergatory. I'll chat with them. I'm always happy to meet women of low morals.
FireWalker, as for reporting the dodgy ones at CB, has it ever crossed your mind that you're teaching them how to get better at their game? Just let them be.
Good point about "good at the Internet". If they are online everyday, why is that?
Some have jobs ... I had a great time with a travel agent on my last visit...she even got me a discount on the hotel. I gave her the savings and told her to buy herself a gift.
Another bullshitted me saying she was in a computer course and working on her project. Yea right. Then her profile said engaged and she got a bit haughty. That fell thru (as they often do) and now she's online again all times of the day and night -- despite "graduating" from her computer course.
One of my first chat friends was a cam girl in Negros. Now she's in MLA. Damn, hope I can meet her in July.
Thanks for the post FW.
X Man
[QUOTE=FireWalker]Cherry Blossoms is one of the few sites where the girls will get booted off for asking for money and the like. That may be why you haven't run into a scammer yet. I have reported some of these girls and they were gone in short order there.
My take on the dating sites is basically this:
I don't think it is a good way to meet girls. Even the "good girls" or so they say, know the scammers. The scammers may even be a relative of theirs. (As I have experienced). These scammers whisper in their ear and counsel them on how to "handle" you and what to say.
I find that if a girl is good at the internet that is not the type of girl you want to get in any way involved with. I have found that bargirls ,who don't usually have the time to become good at the internet, have more integrity than the "good girl" internet girls. IMHO[/QUOTE]
Guys.
If you are using adultfriendfinder.com in Philippines, maybe it is okay, but it has HORRIBLE reviews as a way to find women in the USA. Then again, finding pussy in the USA is frequently a frustrating experieince.
I totally agree with the comments that a girl skilled in internet usage is one to avoid. Think about it. Where did she get that knowledge? What is she using it for?
If you are willing to weed through the obvious scammers, and get burned once or twice, then I do think CB is a good way to meet filipinas. Not as good as going to the islands, of course, but not all of us can do that. Just remember this: not only will a "good" girl not ask for money, she will NOT accept it if you offer it.
But. Why are we discussing finding "good girls" on this forum?
[QUOTE=FireWalker]Cherry Blossoms is one of the few sites where the girls will get booted off for asking for money and the like. That may be why you haven't run into a scammer yet. I have reported some of these girls and they were gone in short order there.
My take on the dating sites is basically this:
I don't think it is a good way to meet girls. Even the "good girls" or so they say, know the scammers. The scammers may even be a relative of theirs. (As I have experienced). These scammers whisper in their ear and counsel them on how to "handle" you and what to say.
I find that if a girl is good at the internet that is not the type of girl you want to get in any way involved with. I have found that bargirls ,who don't usually have the time to become good at the internet, have more integrity than the "good girl" internet girls. IMHO[/QUOTE]
I've seen a lot of relationships over here, some that work, some that don;t work and some that kinda work, of the ones that OVERWHELMING DONT WORK the bar girls lead the pack.
As a crusty old master Sergeant told me a LOOOOONNNNGGGGG time ago:
"You can take the girl outta the bar, but you can NEVER take the bar outta the girl."
I can't begin to count the number of poor fools who failed trying to prove that statement wrong... they all thought things would be different with their particular one or they would be the exception to the rule.
FYI, Bar Girls DO work the internet, in many cases they have a better command of the English language than their provincial or college educated sisters. Any girl who solicits you for money on the Inet is a hustler, they make a business out of it, there are different degrees, there are the girls who
are serious about finding "Mr Right" and until he comes along will try and get money from anybody dumb enough to send it, then there are the "pros" who work it for money soley and will put on Tit shows or talk dirty in a sort of cyber ***** mentality, it beats working in a bar for some slave driver Mama san and an enterprising 'Ho can always supplement her income.
Yes their are "good" girls on the internet, I've seen more sucessful relationships that originated on a chat line than I have as a result of a bar fine.
Good luck
Spamhog
I haven't heard Camfrog mentioned yet, but I've found it's a great way to chat with and watch girls from Thailand, the Philippines, China and Japan on their webcams. In fact, there are so many Thai girls on there, they've had to establish their own webcam server. lol! So far, I haven't come across any from Singapore or Indonesia yet though. And amazingly, I haven't come across any pro webcam sex girls yet either. Some get naked, some just dance around and tease and some just sit there. It's a free download from the website of the same name and you don't have to have a webcam yourself, although it obviously helps in getting the girls to talk to you, cam to cam. Beware of the fat pasty white bitches on the North America server, although the most naked-getting Thais and Pinoys frequent there too in search of "foreign talent." :-)
I've lined up several possibilities for my next trip to Thailand so we'll see how it goes.
The program is free to download and sign up but you can only watch one cam at a time with the free registration. You CAN, however, pay for a more powerful Camfrog program that allows you to watch as many cams as you want simultaneously. I haven't done that yet...still having quite enough fun one cam at at time at this point.
Anybody else using camfrog?
[QUOTE=Panman]Man falls in love in chat room with married woman using actress pictures.
[url]http://www.reuters.com/article/internetNews/idUSSIN3861520070320[/url][/QUOTE]
Good god what an idiot. Anybody got this guy's contact info? I have a bridge in Arizona I need to sell him....
[QUOTE=Bumbo]Every time I use to go to xmatch.com go to chat room you always see the gals from phili try to spam you if you want to watch them in private for $$ that you can send her money by westerunion, I wonder has anybody tried this con on the gal and say ok I send you money after she gives you info, you give her the phony westernunion number. After you get so called private show when you done watching and log off yahoo messenger when she goes to westerunion to get money SURPRISE! There is no money and the number is a phony. That will teach her to spam on adult chats sites! I was thinking of trying that and use the webcam capture to record the session.[/QUOTE]
LOL! Brilliant!
I use camfrog I go into the chat rooms and click on videos thats about all I can do it gets pretty boring I haven't found what you have. Its hard to chat sometimes you mostly get ignored. Excuse my ignorance how do you get to chat one on one?
Damn SH, I didn't know you were a poet.
On a slightly different vein, I once read somewhere that sex is the most honest of interpersonal relationships. This makes sense to me.
When you have dinner with someone, there are all kinds of posturing. You have to worry about getting something stuck in your teeth, should we go dutch, etc....but with sex, you make odd animal kinds of noise, swap bodily fluids, pussy farts, whatever...
I suppose this is true if two people actually like each other, or even if they are exchange money for sex. But if someone is using sex to manipulate you, then I guess it isn't so honest. I'll have to think about this one some more.
Bar girls. Money for adult fun ... so uncomplicated. Add love to the equation and you get grief.
I'm completely sober, but not sure if I'm making any sense. What do the rest of you think? Is sex the most honest of interpersonal relationships?
SH, let me know when you publish your book of bar girl poetry. I want an autographed copy.
X Man
[QUOTE=Spam Hog]
I've seen more sucessful relationships
that originated on a chat line
than I have as a result of a bar fine.
Spamhog[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Bilbo Baggins]I use camfrog I go into the chat rooms and click on videos thats about all I can do it gets pretty boring I haven't found what you have. Its hard to chat sometimes you mostly get ignored. Excuse my ignorance how do you get to chat one on one?[/QUOTE]
Chatting in the chat room rarely works...like you said, you mostly get ignored because of so many other people chatting. But once you click on a video, there's a little orange bubble at the top right above the video box...click that and you can send a private message, if the girl doesn't have private messaging disabled. Granted, it is hit or miss to some degree, but no more than Yahoo or any other chat room. What's worked for me is to just chit chat a bit and get to know the girl first...too many guys on there jump right into "hey, show us your boobs/ass/legs/whatever" and get nowhere. Good luck mate...
This is Officially and UnOfficially my first quote , and I have to say this forum is awesome. I will be sending my $20 bucks soon. My quote/question/comment is that I noticed (no offence to anybody) that majority of the Members here are 30+yr old. Is the Pleasure of being entertained by lovely exotic flipno ladies a mid aged man fantasy only. I'm early 22yrs old and started my quest to find the perfect hump in the perfect hotel for the perfect donation when I was 18. I'm guessing most the guys my age are in South Korea with the Drinky Girls during there military tours there (where I was intorduced to the lovely Flipno).
[QUOTE=Island Hump]This is Officially and UnOfficially my first quote , and I have to say this forum is awesome. I will be sending my $20 bucks soon. My quote/question/comment is that I noticed (no offence to anybody) that majority of the Members here are 30+yr old. Is the Pleasure of being entertained by lovely exotic flipno ladies a mid aged man fantasy only. I'm early 22yrs old and started my quest to find the perfect hump in the perfect hotel for the perfect donation when I was 18. I'm guessing most the guys my age are in South Korea with the Drinky Girls during there military tours there (where I was intorduced to the lovely Flipno).[/QUOTE]
I would have to say that most of the guys on the board are 30+, most like age 40 and a few naughty old bastards like myself in their mid fifties and plus. I suppose a profile of guys we see on the board and in The Phils sampling the ladies might be older westerners fed up (Divorced) with western women, have the FINANCIAL means to come to the Phils and whoop it up, many retired (as I am) or Gettin' close.
I do see younger guys here, lots are divers, a few European back packer types etc. But they can score as well or even better than the older, more monied counterpart as most Filipina like younger men.
I first became a convert to the ASIAN PERSUASIAN when I was an 18 year old grunt serving in Vietnam, haven't been able to shake it since.
Good luck
Spamhog
Only 22. Yea, forget about it. These girls will want nothing to do with you. You guys fk all night and pay too little.
SH, my first Asian love was the shy Chinese immigrant who waited at the same bus top as me in first year hs. She was one of only a few Asians in the whole hs of 2000. She was super exotic and also super shy - as I was. Duh.
Just a few years later I made my way to Subic Bay courtesy of the same employer as SH, only I was called a swabbie rather than a grunt. Only 19.
IsleHump, the girls would have nothing to do with me when I was 19. They really like the older guys. I recommend you go to Pattaya.
X Man
[QUOTE=Island Hump]This is Officially and UnOfficially my first quote , and I have to say this forum is awesome. I will be sending my $20 bucks soon. My quote/question/comment is that I noticed (no offence to anybody) that majority of the Members here are 30+yr old. Is the Pleasure of being entertained by lovely exotic flipno ladies a mid aged man fantasy only. I'm early 22yrs old and started my quest to find the perfect hump in the perfect hotel for the perfect donation when I was 18. I'm guessing most the guys my age are in South Korea with the Drinky Girls during there military tours there (where I was intorduced to the lovely Flipno).[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Gaijin Gigolo]I haven't heard Camfrog mentioned yet, but I've found it's a great way to chat with and watch girls from Thailand, the Philippines, China and Japan on their webcams. In fact, there are so many Thai girls on there, they've had to establish their own webcam server. lol! So far, I haven't come across any from Singapore or Indonesia yet though. And amazingly, I haven't come across any pro webcam sex girls yet either. Some get naked, some just dance around and tease and some just sit there. It's a free download from the website of the same name and you don't have to have a webcam yourself, although it obviously helps in getting the girls to talk to you, cam to cam. Beware of the fat pasty white bitches on the North America server, although the most naked-getting Thais and Pinoys frequent there too in search of "foreign talent." :-)
I've lined up several possibilities for my next trip to Thailand so we'll see how it goes.
The program is free to download and sign up but you can only watch one cam at a time with the free registration. You CAN, however, pay for a more powerful Camfrog program that allows you to watch as many cams as you want simultaneously. I haven't done that yet...still having quite enough fun one cam at at time at this point.
Anybody else using camfrog?[/QUOTE]I use CamFrog, and was going to mention it also. Your right some of the rooms get packed and it is hard to get a word in,, or as in the Thai rooms its mostly in Thai language save for the beggers, but I think the Thai server has cracked down on the women getting naked there.. I found it worth while to look into the smaller rooms where its not as fast. I talk with a few Filipinas there and they seem cool so far and looking for whatever really.
Some of the women "showing" on there are pre-recorded videos, not all, but have seen alot. You can also tell whos watching you, which tell a person ur intrested. The Pro version is like $50,, I haven't sprung for it yet though,, but bigger vid screen and mutiple ones would be nice. U can also tell what room ur contacts are in.
The Fling site that someone mentioned before is mostly women from North America that are real, most filipinas there are bots, or porn cammers. I only know of a few that are normal so to say. I got a free account there,,but I'd never pay for it thats for sure.
Also would like to mention Webdate.com , its a little better than Fling site, more of a normal dating site, it might even be free I think,, not sure about that. They have a webcam chat rooms as well and more regular filipinas there, than Fling. I have been a member there for years,, and before it was heavy with Flips,,lol.
Finally a filipina that I know in Manila always said internet girls are not the best,,but most in cafes if not all are scammers or just plain old bad news. The ones with home internet access are better choice if your looking to meet a "Good girl". She claims to be a good girl, and after chatting regularly for over 6 months she never asked for a dime, so maybe she is.
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hello to all,
off the topic a bit. i got informed by a fren of mine about a nbi raid in angeles city, which had happen somedays ago.
those are so called "studios", apartments equipped with a pc and gurls go online on various sites there tomake money.
cops, politicians look at it like a new source of geting money out of this by doing raids, threads etc. its quite famou snow to make money with this.
anyway, i also get t know that one of the model was raped by an nbi officer, i have his name and his cp number. the gurl he raped was brought to a hotel room, after that she was send to jail for 5 days. she released now, i wanted to help her, send her first for check up to hospital , but because it was allrady 5 days ago they tod her to go to dswd, some social worker organisation for helping gurls etc ( i also got to know she is 17 so he raped a minor!!).
now this guy has balls, he was calling and txting her again when he was nearbye, guess this guys think they can do evrything. im so angry and pissed and i realy wanted to help this gurl very quick and get this motherf...er into jail.
so if any of you guys have advise and have suggestion on this, please pm me. i like to help her and i like to see this human garbage brought to justice.
happy hunting!!!!
blink
is this a friend you know in person, or someone whom you met online?
i would be careful, i have heard many sad stories to get "mabait" guys to "help them"
not saying this is the case here, but i have heard it all before.
[quote=blink157]hello to all,
off the topic a bit. i got informed by a fren of mine about a nbi raid in angeles city, which had happen somedays ago.
those are so called "studios", apartments equipped with a pc and gurls go online on various sites there tomake money.
cops, politicians look at it like a new source of geting money out of this by doing raids, threads etc. its quite famou snow to make money with this.
anyway, i also get t know that one of the model was raped by an nbi officer, i have his name and his cp number. the gurl he raped was brought to a hotel room, after that she was send to jail for 5 days. she released now, i wanted to help her, send her first for check up to hospital , but because it was allrady 5 days ago they tod her to go to dswd, some social worker organisation for helping gurls etc ( i also got to know she is 17 so he raped a minor!!).
now this guy has balls, he was calling and txting her again when he was nearbye, guess this guys think they can do evrything. im so angry and pissed and i realy wanted to help this gurl very quick and get this motherf...er into jail.
so if any of you guys have advise and have suggestion on this, please pm me. i like to help her and i like to see this human garbage brought to justice.
happy hunting!!!!
blink[/quote]
I have been using Camfrog also but not for picking up women - mostly for voyeurism. As pointed out, the most popular rooms are so busy with beggars that you cant get a word in edgewise. Plus the women are exhibitionists mostly - they are not looking to hook up. I also find that SE and E Asian woman don't show as much as white chicks. I tend to stick to NA or UK rooms. Here you can see couples having sex live on cam. After a week of using the non pro version, I sprung for the pro verison ($54). It's good in that you can watch mutiple (up to 100) cams at once. But full screen is not something I would count on. The resoltuion on most of these cams is so low that when you turn them into a big window they are pixelated to the point of being useless. Sociologically, I am amazed how easy it is to get women to strip - with just a bucch of seemingly sincere compliments.But I guess this is no news considering what happens at Mardi Gras.
Chhers.
[quote=blink157]hello to all,
off the topic a bit. i got informed by a fren of mine about a nbi raid in angeles city, which had happen somedays ago.
those are so called "studios", apartments equipped with a pc and gurls go online on various sites there tomake money.
cops, politicians look at it like a new source of geting money out of this by doing raids, threads etc. its quite famou snow to make money with this.
anyway, i also get t know that one of the model was raped by an nbi officer, i have his name and his cp number. the gurl he raped was brought to a hotel room, after that she was send to jail for 5 days. she released now, i wanted to help her, send her first for check up to hospital , but because it was allrady 5 days ago they tod her to go to dswd, some social worker organisation for helping gurls etc ( i also got to know she is 17 so he raped a minor!!).
now this guy has balls, he was calling and txting her again when he was nearbye, guess this guys think they can do evrything. im so angry and pissed and i realy wanted to help this gurl very quick and get this motherf...er into jail.
so if any of you guys have advise and have suggestion on this, please pm me. i like to help her and i like to see this human garbage brought to justice.
happy hunting!!!!
blink[/quote]
let me give you some advice that may save your life: dont get involved in this!!!!!
you have no idea of the complexities of the situation. right now, election time in the pi, all of this is politically related, that means the guy with the most money wins and does what he wants. if the nbi or the police are working for him, they do what they want and little recourse for any type of transgression. there is a lot of talk nowadays about "protecting the public's morals" by raiding bars, shuting down "cyber sex dens" etc, fred lim, the notorious former mayor of manila is running again and showing pix on tv of raids on bars he sponsored as part of his campaign.
this filipina might be able to go to some organization like gabriella or something and get their assistance, but that should be the extent of your involvement in it.
if she is working the cams she isn;t worht it anyhow, its a pity but that is the way it is, rememeber this is the 3rd world and crap like this is common place. dont get involved in it, you have no standing at all and if "they" think she is the gf of a foreigner they will smell money and you make her situation worse.
find another one, plenty of 'em.
spamhog
Hi Guy!
Spam hog is right! Keep away run away!
I lived in and did business in PH for 3 years. Do not get tagged by the NBI.
If you get tagged by the NBI. It can get back to you, even if you are just an innocent.
If this NBI guy is bad enough the locals will lose him. But every "story" has a story.
[QUOTE=Spam Hog]Let me give you some advice that may save your life: DONT GET INVOLVED IN THIS!!!!!
You have no idea of the complexities of the situation. Right now, election time in the PI, ALL OF THIS IS POLITICALLY RELATED, that means the guy with the most money wins and does what he wants. If the NBI or the police are working for him, they do what they want and little recourse for ANY type of transgression. There is a lot of talk nowadays about "Protecting the public's morals" by raiding bars, shuting down "Cyber sex dens" etc, Fred Lim, the notorious Former mayor of Manila is running again and showing pix on TV of raids on bars he sponsored as part of his campaign.
This Filipina MIGHT be able to go to some organization like Gabriella or something and get their assistance, but that should be the extent of YOUR involvement in it.
If she is working the Cams she isn;t worht it anyhow, its a pity but that is the way it is, rememeber this is the 3rd world and crap like this is common place. DONT GET INVOLVED IN IT, YOU HAVE NO STANDING AT ALL AND IF "THEY" THINK SHE IS THE GF OF A FOREIGNER THEY WILL SMELL MONEY AND YOU MAKE HER SITUATION WORSE.
Find another one, plenty of 'em.
Spamhog[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Gaijin Gigolo]LOL! Brilliant![/QUOTE]Great idea, Bumbo!!! Can anyone share with us how a western union number looks like. How many digits, etc.? LOL!
Hi,
Thanks for the advise Spamhog and Hobbyknob.
I gave her info what to do and thats it for me. She told me she will think of it, but maybe she won't continue cause she fear for her lifeandher auntie who arrives from oversea told her also to stop this, so I'm out of this now.
I woud like to see this guy busted, but it ain't my war. These days its also hard to beliveand I guess I will stick to the rules, seeing is believing.
I'm back in July, maybe some of you guys will be around and we can have a few beers.
Have a nice day all and happy hunting.
Blink
Christine Butuan sweet girl: hi
Christine Butuan sweet girl: how are you??
x: Hello Ms butuan.
Christine Butuan sweet girl: yes
Christine Butuan sweet girl: are you engage?
x: No, why ask such a question.
(a long pause)
x: I have to go, thanks for the interesting chat.
Christine Butuan sweet girl: i have boyfriend already
x: Wow, thanks for the intersting information.
Christine Butuan sweet girl: your welcome
Christine Butuan sweet girl: so plss dont send me any message
x: I didn't send you a message. You sent me a message. But, next time you send me a message, I promise not to respond....after all - you have a boyfriend!
Christine Butuan sweet girl: i just replied your message
(I had sent a generic message to several ladies in my Mindanao ym list suggesting I might be soon taking an overseas trip.)
x: Why did you reply to my message if you don't want any messages? Are you having some mental ilness?
Christine Butuan sweet girl: nope
Christine Butuan sweet girl: i just reply coz i want you to know that im taken
x: By who?
Christine Butuan sweet girl: somebody who tried to chat with me
Christine Butuan sweet girl: somebody who ignore me before
x: Has he ever been to the Philippines?
Christine Butuan sweet girl: never been to the philippines
x: Well, I wish you the best of luck. It seems like you have a guy you can depend on.
x: Does he speak spanish or any other Philippino language?
Christine Butuan sweet girl: nope
Christine Butuan sweet girl: never
Christine Butuan sweet girl: dutch
x: Well, maybe you can introduce us. I'll be in Mindanao in July. WIll he be there the same time. I'll go to Davao and CDO.
Christine Butuan sweet girl: nope, im going to singapore to meet him
Christine Butuan sweet girl: who's US?
x: "us"...well, that means people of the usa. If he's dufch, I don't want to meet him. Thanks anyway.
x: How long will you stay in Singapore?
Christine Butuan sweet girl: one month
Christine Butuan sweet girl: yes he is dutch
Christine Butuan sweet girl: why you dont like dutch people?? he is nice
x: I've met some nice dutch people.
x: How do you know he's nice. Have you met him face to face?
Christine Butuan sweet girl: yes
x: Where?
Christine Butuan sweet girl: in butuan
Christine Butuan sweet girl: last january
x: I asked you if he visited Philippines, and you said no.
Christine Butuan sweet girl: yes but not in july
????then I quote our exchange from earlier...
x: x: Has he ever been to the Philippines?
Christine Butuan sweet girl: never been to the philippines
????
Christine Butuan sweet girl: he just visit last january
x: You should write a book about your dream. It's always nice to read some good fiction.
x: Good luck Christine. I have to go now.
x: Remember, you have a boyfriend...so you shouldn't write me anymore.
x: Try to control yourself.
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Thanks, x man. I was unaware of this thread. Most of the cam girls I've been falling for are on asianbabecams.com. I had assumed that most or all of them are bar girls.
I'm new at this, and I guess I'm just in awe of how sexy some of these girls are, perfect bodies, young, etc. and I just wondered whether I'll be able to connect with such honeys as these if I just show up and hit the bars.
Sure do appreciate your response and the insights on this thread.
[QUOTE=X Man]I once posted my email in my profile for many months on a pay for site by writing something like this: myid yafoo[/QUOTE]
Hello X Man,
Recently, I was perusing several websites in search of new talent trying to decide which websites I sould join. Going through some of the profiles, I spotted a few that tried that trick. One webcat even watermarked her email on one of her photos! Last week, I did find a 19 y.o. who blatantly put her email in her profile so I contacted her without hesitation because this week they pulled her plug.
Mattrick, what sites are you using. Top secret?
Sometimes the ones who give contact data do it without realizing the rules. That may be the case with the one you mention. You may have an exclusive contact with someone who may be a bit fresh. Good luck. You never know with these girls at the "penpal" sites.
As for those who actually bend the rules, they might be a bit hard core. Nothing wrong with that if you recognize it up front. I've used CherryBlossom and I actually advised CB to create a "pergatory" section. Instead of excluding the rule benders, put them in pergatory. Some of us like the bad girls. Of course they ignored my advice.
X Man
[QUOTE=Mattrick]Hello X Man,
Recently, I was perusing several websites in search of new talent trying to decide which websites I sould join. Going through some of the profiles, I spotted a few that tried that trick. One webcat even watermarked her email on one of her photos! Last week, I did find a 19 y.o. who blatantly put her email in her profile so I contacted her with out hesitation because this week they pulled her plug.[/QUOTE]
Go ahead and set up a meeting, but don't tell them when you will arrive. Bar hop on the first night and then think about calling these girls the next day. (You do have their phone numbers, don't you?) If your dinner date doesn't go well, dump her and ....(the rest of the story).
If you are a newbie, they will fall all over themselves to get exclusive rights, which may or may not be good depending on the girl. Some girls will give you great gfe (and possibly fall in love with you), and others will try to steal from the golden goose.
Basically, you'd have to be a fuckwit not to have a good time in the Philippines.
X Man
[QUOTE=Lobo Loco][url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=606169&postcount=658[/url]
Thanks, x man. I was unaware of this thread. Most of the cam girls I've been falling for are on asianbabecams.com. I had assumed that most or all of them are bar girls.
I'm new at this, and I guess I'm just in awe of how sexy some of these girls are, perfect bodies, young, etc. and I just wondered whether I'll be able to connect with such honeys as these if I just show up and hit the bars.
Sure do appreciate your response and the insights on this thread.[/QUOTE]
I am since 3 years playing that field on CB
Make it clear that you dun believe in cyberlove but need to meet her
Make it clear it is her to meet only and not the bunch of leeches ....aunties, friends...
Make it clear no money upfront but full payback when you meet.
Tell her she shall be ready to travel then with you immediately on vacation to a nice place..Boracaz, Camuigin, Bohol.....
That will drop the sheer number quickly down to a few, but good ones, worth to meet
Good luck
[QUOTE=X Man]Mattrick, what sites are you using. Top secret?
Sometimes the ones who give contact data do it without realizing the rules. That may be the case with the one you mention. You may have an exclusive contact with someone who may be a bit fresh. Good luck. You never know with these girls at the "penpal" sites.
As for those who actually bend the rules, they might be a bit hard core. Nothing wrong with that if you recognize it up front.[/QUOTE]
One of the websites I was looking at was asianeuro. You know as well as I that some of these girls are smart and know the ropes with these sites. In the case of the teenager, she knew what she was doing. Some websites charge a fee to the girls in order to retreive their messages. She was just trying to bypass the middleman. Thanks, I will keep you posted on my progress. PM me for more info.
I'm sure Botak's rules work for Botak, but I would never do any of the things he mentions. The only one that makes sense to me is the first one, but I make that clear only if they are moving too quickly.
"I don't want to meet your family or friends"? Who would want to meet a person who said that? I wouldn't.
I suspect Botak is only doing p4p, and if that's your ideal, then follow his advice. But why join CB to find p4p? It doesn't make sense to me. Most on CB are regular girls and that is what attracts me.
X Man
[QUOTE=Botaki6]I am since 3 years playing that field on CB
Make it clear that you dun believe in cyberlove but need to meet her
Make it clear it is her to meet only and not the bunch of leeches ....aunties, friends...
Make it clear no money upfront but full payback when you meet.
Tell her she shall be ready to travel then with you immediately on vacation to a nice place..Boracaz, Camuigin, Bohol.....
That will drop the sheer number quickly down to a few, but good ones, worth to meet
Good luck[/QUOTE]
Ok, thanks for the suggestions. Maybe one night in AC will show I don't need to bother with the webcam girls at all. Only thing that makes me wonder is that some of these cambabes are way hotter than most of the pics that mongers have posted here. Pics not representative?
I don't want to tie my hands with prearranged plans, but neither do I want to get there and find that I have got to settle for average pussy. In truth, the prospect of a GFE weekend with one of these babes excites me more than hustling sts from bj bars, but that's just me. There could be room for both ;o).
If one were to treat a "10" to a Boracay weekend ("dream vacation for these girls") what kind of money should change hands? I figure she should pitch in something :o for getting the high style deal, but I should recompense for lost income as well as persuade her to put up with me.
Any one tried cebuanas.com for meeting women? HAd any success oiff here? PM or reply in forum. Either way is good
Thanks guys
the cam girls I met in the phils were not as hot in person. (lots of makeup involved) They were still good looking, but not what I expected.
Don't worry, I've seen some MAJOR babes in the KTV's.
You won't have any problem and you won't have to settle.
Trust me.
[QUOTE=Lobo Loco]Ok, thanks for the suggestions. Maybe one night in AC will show I don't need to bother with the webcam girls at all. Only thing that makes me wonder is that some of these cambabes are way hotter than most of the pics that mongers have posted here. Pics not representative?
I don't want to tie my hands with prearranged plans, but neither do I want to get there and find that I have got to settle for average pussy. In truth, the prospect of a GFE weekend with one of these babes excites me more than hustling sts from bj bars, but that's just me. There could be room for both ;o).
If one were to treat a "10" to a Boracay weekend ("dream vacation for these girls") what kind of money should change hands? I figure she should pitch in something :o for getting the high style deal, but I should recompense for lost income as well as persuade her to put up with me.[/QUOTE]
Lobo, you will have time for both.
I've met some stunners just using the regular "penpal" services. Many of these girls will get on cam, but don't expect anything other than a chat. There are exceptions and it will usually be obvious when exceptions are forthcoming. My problem is I've never been able to meet even 10% of those I've been interested in. Oh, and secondary problem is less that 50% put out on the first meeting.
Good question about compensation. I think a lot depends on the girl. I'd say all expenses plus 1000 a day is reasonable.
As for ladies working in the bars, some guys pay a fee to the bar. You should be able to avoid that. I think if you bar fine a lady one night and then she misses work the next night, she gets fined. I would assume that if she goes to work the next night and then tells the boss that she has to go to province for a few days, you should be able to avoid any extra bar charges. I suppose the bar owners on this list are cursing me now.
I'll be looking forward to hearing how all this pans out. And how about some pics of these cam girls!
X Man
[QUOTE=Lobo Loco]Ok, thanks for the suggestions. Maybe one night in AC will show I don't need to bother with the webcam girls at all. Only thing that makes me wonder is that some of these cambabes are way hotter than most of the pics that mongers have posted here. Pics not representative?
I don't want to tie my hands with prearranged plans, but neither do I want to get there and find that I have got to settle for average pussy. In truth, the prospect of a GFE weekend with one of these babes excites me more than hustling sts from bj bars, but that's just me. There could be room for both ;o).
If one were to treat a "10" to a Boracay weekend ("dream vacation for these girls") what kind of money should change hands? I figure she should pitch in something :o for getting the high style deal, but I should recompense for lost income as well as persuade her to put up with me.[/QUOTE]
I have corresponded online only with some young ladies from these sites and hope to meet them if all goes as planned. There is no fee and email address can be readily exchanged. They appear to be non p4p sites.
Anyone with experience on these sites or similar sites or maybe myspace?
I'm not saying all of these girls are available. But with a little effort, who knows.
[QUOTE=Lobo Loco]I'm not saying all of these girls are available. But with a little effort, who knows.[/QUOTE]These photos are from a sex chat line Streamate. If you actually go to the Philippines, they will meet with you. They will actually marry you. All of them want to better their lives. They are good looking babes for sure. I have actually called a couple of them and chatted with them.
[QUOTE=Khun Larry]I have corresponded online only with some young ladies from these sites and hope to meet them if all goes as planned. There is no fee and email address can be readily exchanged. They appear to be non p4p sites.
Anyone with experience on these sites or similar sites or maybe myspace?[/QUOTE]
They will cost you more than P4P, how do you think they pay for internet time?
[QUOTE=Lobo Loco]I'm not saying all of these girls are available. But with a little effort, who knows.[/QUOTE]These girls are all available online but you have to register and pay a fee up front in return for time credits. It's more expensive than the real thing. All the girls are Philippinos.
[quote]These photos are from a sex chat line Streamate.[/quote]First I've heard of Streamate, but these sites are springing up daily. What is happening is that a "studio" (cams, computers, girls) sells the same feed to multiple sites. Now a girl is monitoring several sites at once as she sits there in her underwear. It accounts for the glazed look in the eyes.
[quote]These girls are all available online but you have to register and pay a fee up front in return for time credits. It's more expensive than the real thing.[/quote]They are not free. It will actually cost you $1.00 - 2.00 a minute, and this can add up so fast that you spend more money this way than you would spend for real. Call it instant gratification.
[QUOTE=Lobo Loco]I'm not saying all of these girls are available. But with a little effort, who knows.[/QUOTE]
I would put some money up that the last pic "isq1" is available
as i arrive back in the phils next week i paid for one month at AFF. A lot of them look like they could be current or ex bar enviornment.
Anyhow what surprised me is the high number that have comfirmed they are bi-sexual or bi-curious. surly in a general populace of say 1000 females in the 18-38 y.o. bracket i would think only 5-10% would openly admit having wet dreams between the legs about other females but on AFF in the philippines it seems to be running 30-40%. just a thought.
Maybe i should get a date with one and get her to bring her bisexual running mate with her.
[QUOTE=FireWalker]They will cost you more than P4P, how do you think they pay for internet time?[/QUOTE]
Not sure.
Last girl I met online was a college grad engineer earning about $400 a month in Cebu. A cherry girl. She never seemed to need money and never asked in 2 years. She was a thrifty little cutie. When she hit 25 the desire to mary was too strong so we went our separate ways. Nice GF experience which I hope to be lucky enough to repeat
[QUOTE=Lobo Loco]They are not free. It will actually cost you $1.00 - 2.00 a minute, and this can add up so fast that you spend more money this way than you would spend for real. Call it instant gratification.[/QUOTE]
Yes your right and out of that $1.00 - $2.00 per minute, the girl only makes $0.20 per minute do to several layers of people including the website, webmaster, her boss, etc. Everybody gets their cut.
hi to all,
just reading the posts here about camgurls in those paid sites.
Most of this gurls wanted to have fun doing this. Some of them will never meet you, some will meet you only for shopping and dining with your friends, some of them you can screw and some are really lookin into serious relation (but who wants that?? not me LOL)
I have numerous contacts to those gurls, I mentioned that before, its because some of them work to me or with me, I prefer this term cause I think I treat them way better then they work for pinoy guys/gurls, cause after a while they pay late or dont pay at all :D
I don thave sex with them, unless they offer me, but when Im in the PI there are plenty of other options so if somebody thinks here I get those chicks for free, thats not the truth. Also, if you get to personal, they will ask and ask for money , cashadvance or other things...thats pinoy way :D
Here is what works for me. Even some of them work to me Im also intersted to met new gurls up and see where it goes. Before I fly to PI I chat them up, get their fone and ym id ( you have to spend some minutes in private ) and when Im not busy I leave them offline or txt them and see whats goin on. Its also nice to get to know some new gurls , have them with you watching a movie, treat them dinner.....
One thing, if they show up with friends, try to speak to ur loved ones alone. Most of the gurls have multiple boyfriends pinoys or/and foreigners and if they gona meet you alone, nobody should know that, so be descrete ;-)
One last thing,those gurls are more fun to chat then meeting them in person, but you can try and see I dont want to generalize all the gurls. Some of them making gud money. One of my top hosts makes 60 k pesos a month in chats, plus what guys sending her, so she is getting something like 100 000 p a month..tax free :D
Happy hunting!!!
Blink
Nearly got scammed by a so-called REAL chica by the name of Joy Miranda.
Went from good, virginal girl to sex mad , passport hungry raver in three or four emails. They dont take long to get down to business. FYI her pics looked stunning but i did think it was strange to get an email out of the blue from her.i forgot this is how ThaiLove Links and a few others operate. You have to pay the website a fee to reply to this woman who is supposedly interested in you. thats how they make their money without having to even remove their panties. My thanks to Freeman for his expert advice-theirs a real brotherhood happenig on this website.
Is there anyone who surfs? If so, what spots would you recommend for surfing with some access to women?
[QUOTE=Khun Larry]Not sure.
Last girl I met online was a college grad engineer earning about $400 a month in Cebu. A cherry girl. She never seemed to need money and never asked in 2 years. She was a thrifty little cutie. When she hit 25 the desire to mary was too strong so we went our separate ways. Nice GF experience which I hope to be lucky enough to repeat[/QUOTE]
Yes, there are are a few girls like that, but most of the sites are dominated now by scammers. It just isn't worth the time and energy to screen them out to find a nugget.
$400 a month is enough to support a couple families. That girl was making good money by Philippines standards.
It is easier to meet girls there, but there are so many guys sitting in their mothers basements sending these chicks money to flash there tits. The internet just isn't worth the time it entails anymore.
[QUOTE=Lobo Loco]I'm not saying all of these girls are available. But with a little effort, who knows.[/QUOTE]
There are tons of girls of this type all over the Phils. The only effort that means anything is going there.
[QUOTE=FireWalker]
there are so many guys sitting in their mothers basements sending these chicks money to flash there tits. The internet just isn't worth the time it entails anymore.[/QUOTE]
HAHAHA...You the man..buddy..this is soo true :)..when i was unemployed and had no means for pleasure i used to do that, in my parents home, desperatly..praying and kneeling to them to just show a piece of divinity..
I was soo damm there and felt the frustation and desperation of it all..no wonder guys would send ..50 , 100 dollars ..just to feel ..little relaxed and dream it all....i owe to them a great deal..even though i did not had the money to send..yet..compare to other women on chat room..they were VERY generous and showed...i tired hard to send them money to keep the divinity of seconds going..but even 100 USD in India is damm months salery...
I have come out of that hell of frusatation now..BUT i give everything to filipina women are the BEST...they get lot of flake..cos they are the only ones there, and even bother to chat with you..OTHER"S WILL NOT EVEN LOOK AT YOU WHEN YOU ARE DOWN....tell me how many american, european, south asians, indian, african, south american women were there with you, in times of your bad days.. NONE..
In terms of money versus giving..Filipina women would give more than your bucks worth every damm day for rest of your life.
And if you take the poor-girl quotient out, they are big hearted people and even with your money that you send..they won't use it to Hijack a plane or plant a bomb.but will spend on foods, clothes and loans..thats it.. they have a simple and normal living..
In Yahoo chat i did not find any scam women, even if they knew im from a third world country, unemployed, living with my parents..they still talked with me and were very friendly..its only 50 percent of the women who asks money..but if u tell them, your condition is same as them..they be will still be friend with me...to prove the point..over a period of two years..i have around 350 contacts of women in cebu alone from chat room in excel file :)..i had kept it keeping my hope alive that one day, i would come out of it and finally be there..
If you are getting the responses in the chat room in few hours of surfing...you could imagine..it will be 7th heaven when you reach cebu :D
Good luck guys..If your condition was like me..keep your heart..you will reach PH one day..lot of filipina women will be on your side in your bad times and when you reach here..you can say thank you..
If you have some means..and you know the girl is genuine..why not send the money or better go to PH and meet her..think about the good karma and the blessing you get in helping a women..who helped you in your frustating times.
Good Luck.
The big problem is that you guys sending them money ruins the market for the guys going there.
It doesn't take that much to go there, just sacrifice some of the shit in your life. I was there 9 weeks last year. I only make 40-50K working about 30 hours a week. I don't own a car because it is a money sinkhole. I don't own expensive clothes because the only benefit derived is impressing other people.
Let go of materialism and it can give you greater freedom. When you die you can be proud of the car payments you made and Nike shoes you wore. I'll be proud of the hash I smoked after horseback riding in the Kashmir Himalyas.
You are right about Cebu girls. Awesome.
[QUOTE=X Man]I'm sure Botak's rules work for Botak, but I would never do any of the things he mentions. The only one that makes sense to me is the first one, but I make that clear only if they are moving too quickly.
"I don't want to meet your family or friends"? Who would want to meet a person who said that? I wouldn't.
X Man[/QUOTE]
X-man, perhaps I should have explained it a bit more:
Once you tell the girl to pick you up at the airport (what most of them like to do..) they will show up with a clan: be it mom, sis, uncle, auntie...and then you have to spend up first before that leeches leave you alone - finally - with your honeyko. As it happened to me several times, I now have a different way: check in to the hotel and then text her with a Philipine cell number (buy Smart, Globe..for a week its cheap). Most of them will hurry to you. Some will bring a friend along..be it.
If I can not bed her at the second meet, I make a move. But in case you are really serious with the girl, why not inviting her parents for a dinner into your hotel? Still cheaper and much more impressive then paying for a party at their home.
The difficulties arise in the difference of culture: in the Phillippines you marry the whole clan and merge into their family. In our culture you start a new family and leave the clan behind. Some guys may like Pinoy style having a big clan attached to the honeyko...I don't! But I like the girls.....Cathy is waiting :-)
[QUOTE=Goingnow]Is there anyone who surfs? If so, what spots would you recommend for surfing with some access to women?[/QUOTE]
If a girl has a lot of time for internet, you are not only guy she is talking to. She may not be a scammer, but she certainly knows a few. She will pick up things from them. So called "regular girls" are more expensive than bargirls. Lining up girls before you go means you have to cover a lot of lies. If you pick up girls there it is much easier in long run and less expensive. I have found bargirls with much more character than regular girls that "work" the internet.
Hi,
gurls are working on the internet for the money, instead of workin hard in the bar. They think they smarter and better then bargurls, they collect guys and they just f..k one guy in a month when he is in town.
The other chat gurls are from bars, most of them are ugly, no barfine and think they can make also money there and then number 3 are gurls who have sugar daddy and lookin for more money...
I just found out ,one of my gurl likes gurls also (same like me LOL), poor guys who send her money, she dont care bout them :D
Happy hunting!!!
[QUOTE=FireWalker]So called "regular girls" are more expensive than bargirls. Lining up girls before you go means you have to cover a lot of lies. [/QUOTE]
Hello FW,
In my experiences, my regular chatmates don't ask for much. Of course I usually bring them some gifts and such. They are too shy to ask for money and many think it is improper. When I'm in town, they always ask if I'm going to meet up with someone else and I always tell then the truth: "Yes of course I will be meeting some of my other chatmates". Knowing that fact usually brings out the best in them and spurs competition. Anyway, here is a joke that a new chatmate sent to me, you can tell what is on her mind!
[QUOTE=FireWalker]So called "regular girls" are more expensive than bargirls. Lining up girls before you go means you have to cover a lot of lies. [/QUOTE]
Hello FW,
In my experiences, my regular chatmates don't ask for much. Of course I usually bring them some gifts and such. They are too shy to ask for money and many think it is improper. When I'm in town, they always ask if I'm going to meet up with someone else and I always tell then the truth: "Yes of course I will be meeting some of my other chatmates." Knowing that fact usually brings out the best in them and spurs competition. Anyway, here is a joke that a new chatmate sent to me, you can tell what is on her mind!
[b]Two old ladies are outside their nursing home, having a drink and a smoke, when it starts to rain. One of the old ladies pulls out a condom, cuts off the end, puts it over her cigarette, and continues smoking. Maude: What in the hell is that? Mabel: A condom. This way my cigarette does not get wet. Maude: Where did you get it? Mabel: You can get them at any drugstore. The next day, Maude hobbles herself into the local drugstore and announces to the pharmacist that she wants a box of condoms. The pharmacist, obviously embarrassed, looks at her kind of strangely (she is after all, over 80 years of age), but very delicately asks what brand of condom she prefers. "Dosen't matter Sonny, as long as it fits on a Camel." The pharmacist fainted.[/b]
I started chatting with a filo girl yesterday through a dating website. She started talking all sexy and when we got to the cam, in Yahoo Messenger, she said to me if I send her US$100 she'll do a hot sexy show fr me, (fingering, etc). The $100 was for a "private room" at the internet cafe. She actually showed me her tits, and she was half decent, but sniffing a scam I didnt take up on her offer. She wanted the money sent through Western UNion, and actually had the WU website up whilst i was talking to her.
[QUOTE=DanTheMan]She actually showed me her tits, and she was half decent, but sniffing a scam I didnt take up on her offer. She wanted the money sent through Western UNion, and actually had the WU website up whilst i was talking to her.[/QUOTE]
It's good you didn't take the bait because you can get the same kind of show for $1.99 USD per minute, if you are into that kind of thing. You might consider reporting her to that dating website administrator.
[QUOTE=DanTheMan]I started chatting with a filo girl yesterday through a dating website. She started talking all sexy and when we got to the cam, in Yahoo Messenger, she said to me if I send her US$100 she'll do a hot sexy show fr me, (fingering, etc). The $100 was for a "private room" at the internet cafe. She actually showed me her tits, and she was half decent, but sniffing a scam I didnt take up on her offer. She wanted the money sent through Western UNion, and actually had the WU website up whilst i was talking to her.[/QUOTE]
Hi,
look my report what kind of gurls doin those things, when I view the att foto I would say in ur case its agurl who dont get barfined but thinks all foreigners are so desperate to pay anything LOL..
if you wana scam thse gurls, use xoom, cause u can cancel ur fund there lol and she will looks stupid :D.. I think WU not possible to do that.
happy hunting
Blink
PS I wouldnt even consider to pay 1,99 a min for this gurl..but thats just my taste
neither would I but i'd root hher if i was drunk a nd horny!!
cheers
dan
[QUOTE=DanTheMan]neither would I but i'd root hher if i was drunk a nd horny!!
cheers
dan[/QUOTE]
From your typing it looks like you are already there!
Cheers to you Dan!
Remember, you ruin the market for fucking when you give money to these sites.
For me, It does nothing for me seeing a naked babe if she is not right in front of me and there is nothing to prevent me from taking things into my own hands.
Check out CB: Member Id: C00254836
I had to laugh at her profile. Says she's "honest".
I chatted with her, but she had no phone. I arranged to meet her at Greenbelt. She never showed. I had no way to call her.
When I emailed her, the response was, "I forgot".
Later, she changed her answer to "We made that arrangement over a month ago, of course I forgot". Actually, it had been four days earlier.
Then she said, "Well, you didn't contact me so I thought you didn't want to meet."
I find out later she's dissing me to at least one other ladies. This is one top notch loser.
X Man
There is a free site to make contact with girls / women all over the world.
Many members from Philippines.. Thailand.. All ages etc.
URL:[url]www.dateinasia.com[/url]
Enjoy!
I am very new at the ISG. Can't even remember how I found it, but it has consumed many hours of my reading time in the past month. I may never get to all of it. The following info is more than likely all old hat to veterans here but for the real new members it may be of interest. My info is based on my experience as a short time member at asianeuro and mycams.
Anyway, I started with mycams.com and I met a Philipine lady in pvt and ended up with her yahoo address and spent much time chatting. I thought we were buds, even though I am past 60, she is 25 but oh so accepting and I relished our chats. Could not imagine getting that acceptance here in the USA A. One day she asked for permission to use my chat name and pass word in Mycams. Of course I did not give it. That was the day of my awakening with her, though I harbor no I'll will or anger toward her. It is just there way of ekeing out a meager living on a day to day. But still loving the young Asian lady's I recently joined asianeuro.com. Posted bio with pic and I was getting hits from Philipine girls as soon as I logged on. By the dozens. They were anywhere from 18 to 55 but mostly in there 20's. I thought I had found Heaven on earth, lots of IT & Nursing students and yes single moms. I have never had that kind of attention from hot young lady's in my entire life. Most get down to business right away. Within a very short time, they ask "are you here to find a life partner/marriage? " I have found that my answer to that one is of critical importance, lest I be dropped like a hot potato. It appears many of these lady's want the commitment from men, and especially any man other than Philipino. I guess those that I have met chatting, just want out. Some or most have no job and spend what little money they have trying to meet there ticket out of P. I. By renting time in internet cafes. I have also been bluntly approached about sending money because the washer is broken and that is how I earn money for my little girl and several other sad story's. I believe many of these storys are true but so hard to think I can really solve these problems for them. Yes I did send a few dollars via regular mail to the first love I met on Mycams. I figured I have donated to the Red Cross and other needy organizations, at least this money will go to somebody I am sure needs it as much as anybody. According to the USA Postal Reg's the Philipine govt. Considers it illegal to send currency via the mail but I hoped it was a small risk and it wasn't much (by our standards) anyway. I don't think the card, with enclosed cash, ever arrived at the address the young lady provided.
Anyway I still love the lovely young Asian lady's and the attention they give me, so I will be back at the meeting site for a few more hours today. Just maybe I will actually visit the P. I. Someday and will then have a few to enjoy a visit with. If I learn the game much better.
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[QUOTE=Lookin]I am very new at the ISG. Can't even remember how I found it, but it has consumed many hours of my reading time in the past month. I may never get to all of it. The following info is more than likely all old hat to veterans here but for the real new members it may be of interest. My info is based on my experience as a short time member at asianeuro and mycams.
Anyway, I started with mycams.com and I met a Philipine lady in pvt and ended up with her yahoo address and spent much time chatting. I thought we were buds, even though I am past 60, she is 25 but oh so accepting and I relished our chats. Could not imagine getting that acceptance here in the USA A. One day she asked for permission to use my chat name and pass word in Mycams. Of course I did not give it. That was the day of my awakening with her, though I harbor no I'll will or anger toward her. It is just there way of ekeing out a meager living on a day to day. But still loving the young Asian lady's I recently joined asianeuro.com. Posted bio with pic and I was getting hits from Philipine girls as soon as I logged on. By the dozens. They were anywhere from 18 to 55 but mostly in there 20's. I thought I had found Heaven on earth, lots of IT & Nursing students and yes single moms. I have never had that kind of attention from hot young lady's in my entire life. Most get down to business right away. Within a very short time, they ask "are you here to find a life partner/marriage? " I have found that my answer to that one is of critical importance, lest I be dropped like a hot potato. It appears many of these lady's want the commitment from men, and especially any man other than Philipino. I guess those that I have met chatting, just want out. Some or most have no job and spend what little money they have trying to meet there ticket out of P. I. By renting time in internet cafes. I have also been bluntly approached about sending money because the washer is broken and that is how I earn money for my little girl and several other sad story's. I believe many of these storys are true but so hard to think I can really solve these problems for them. Yes I did send a few dollars via regular mail to the first love I met on Mycams. I figured I have donated to the Red Cross and other needy organizations, at least this money will go to somebody I am sure needs it as much as anybody. According to the USA Postal Reg's the Philipine govt. Considers it illegal to send currency via the mail but I hoped it was a small risk and it wasn't much (by our standards) anyway. I don't think the card, with enclosed cash, ever arrived at the address the young lady provided.
Anyway I still love the lovely young Asian lady's and the attention they give me, so I will be back at the meeting site for a few more hours today. Just maybe I will actually visit the P. I. Someday and will then have a few to enjoy a visit with. If I learn the game much better.
[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?]Click Here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size][/QUOTE]
You need to go to Angeles City and get some experience first. You sound a little naive. These girls will eat you alive if you go visit them. They are getting money from guys or they wouldn't be on internet. How do you think they pay for it? Most of these girls don't have jobs and if they do, an hour of iinternet is 10% of what they make in a day. Do not send them money.
You should go to Angeles City, it is less expensive than these cam girls will be, trust me. You will get more attention than you ever dreamed there.
Quit saying "someday" and go, it is really affordable.
[QUOTE=Lookin]I am very new at the ISG. Can't even remember how I found it, but it has consumed many hours of my reading time in the past month. I may never get to all of it. The following info is more than likely all old hat to veterans here but for the real new members it may be of interest. My info is based on my experience as a short time member at asianeuro and mycams.
Anyway, I started with mycams.com and I met a Philipine lady in pvt and ended up with her yahoo address and spent much time chatting. I thought we were buds, even though I am past 60, she is 25 but oh so accepting and I relished our chats. Could not imagine getting that acceptance here in the USA A. One day she asked for permission to use my chat name and pass word in Mycams. Of course I did not give it. That was the day of my awakening with her, though I harbor no I'll will or anger toward her. It is just there way of ekeing out a meager living on a day to day. But still loving the young Asian lady's I recently joined asianeuro.com. Posted bio with pic and I was getting hits from Philipine girls as soon as I logged on. By the dozens. They were anywhere from 18 to 55 but mostly in there 20's. I thought I had found Heaven on earth, lots of IT & Nursing students and yes single moms. I have never had that kind of attention from hot young lady's in my entire life. Most get down to business right away. Within a very short time, they ask "are you here to find a life partner/marriage? " I have found that my answer to that one is of critical importance, lest I be dropped like a hot potato. It appears many of these lady's want the commitment from men, and especially any man other than Philipino. I guess those that I have met chatting, just want out. Some or most have no job and spend what little money they have trying to meet there ticket out of P. I. By renting time in internet cafes. I have also been bluntly approached about sending money because the washer is broken and that is how I earn money for my little girl and several other sad story's. I believe many of these storys are true but so hard to think I can really solve these problems for them. Yes I did send a few dollars via regular mail to the first love I met on Mycams. I figured I have donated to the Red Cross and other needy organizations, at least this money will go to somebody I am sure needs it as much as anybody. According to the USA Postal Reg's the Philipine govt. Considers it illegal to send currency via the mail but I hoped it was a small risk and it wasn't much (by our standards) anyway. I don't think the card, with enclosed cash, ever arrived at the address the young lady provided.
Anyway I still love the lovely young Asian lady's and the attention they give me, so I will be back at the meeting site for a few more hours today. Just maybe I will actually visit the P. I. Someday and will then have a few to enjoy a visit with. If I learn the game much better.
[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?]Click Here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size][/QUOTE]
hi,
excellent post. However some thing you should know.
I assume you should fly to PI to find out for urself how things run there. Enough posts in ISG. Members will help you with specific info if you do some homework before you ask here.
I have a little backfround info on chatsites, so if any special gurl you liek to have info, just PM me and I see if I can help.
In general you should know that those gurls work for a living, they either married, have chidlren ,work in bar before or have pinoy boyfriends. Or the worst thing is, they ex bargurls with pinoy boyfriends and a big greedy family,
Maybe you find a diamond in a rough, but be prepared for the worst scenario like I describe it here. They excellent to be ur online gf, givin you agud time, but in real its much different. Once you there and met up and know how it works, you will ask yourself why the hell I paid so much money, instead getting the real thing. So if you continue this, it can end only in one thing , financial support. if thats your thing, you free to do so.
Those gurls are not much educated, but they are "streetsmart" and they have allways somebody who show them the ropes. Believe me, like FW says before. If they smell your a rookie to this, they eat you alive.
if you really like to marry a girl you have to meet her first and get to know her family in person. If they are poor like rats and sh ehave a big family, prepare to pay all for them. Remember its more easy for them to ask you for money then to work.
You say your 60, so maybe you want to settle down. So why bring the gurl to the USA???Did you consider to move to Phils??Many info here and belive me many guys older ur age really enjoy here, they have filipina gf and/or wifes and expereince their secound honeymoon. Guys here will help you out with info.
Back to chatsites. if you allready close to some sweeties there, or you allready addicted to some, ask them those questions first and select, before you meet them up.
Where you from? what province?How big is ur family?what did you do before you start working here?what does ur parents do for a living?Kids?
if she is from pampanga just forget her, specialy from AC, no need to continue, you can meet her up but be sure she wants only money and support. They spoiled, cause they have to many foreigners there..you see once you there. I dont say you cant meet them or screw them, but be prepared to pay more for them as for others.
So, I hope I could get some more light into this topic. any comments or questions PM me or post here..
have to get my things packed Im flying next week back to Phils and see how things work out for me this time. Got many gurls on my "to do list" LOL
last not least. YOu need to find a gurl who likes you, realy likes you, to find out this, you ned to meet her up and see :D
Happy hunting!!
Blink
Nice post Lookin' and very honest. I would join the others who have encouraged you to come over here and have a look at the reality on the ground, rather than the willing suspension of disbelief that is the virtual kingdom. I'm not putting you down at all, just adding my words of caution to what others have said. This is an extremely poor country, and some young, pretty women have made separating men from their money, using the web, into an art form and, by local standards, a pretty lucrative career.
Here in Davao, where I live, it's not at all unusual to find ladies in the Internet Cafes chatting with four to five boyfriends or fiancees simultaneously. One girl explained to me her belief that most of the guys would never come over here, and so, by chatting to, and getting involved with several men at the same time, she was multiplying her odds that one of these guys would eventually actually come here, perhaps fall in love with her, and take her the hell out of here. If you think about it, this is not a bad business model.
This is not to imply that all the women on these sites are scam artistes. They are not and there a lots and lots of sincere, honest women here who are desperate to find a foreigner. The age difference is not, for most women, a factor. They seem to be more interested in finding someone who will treat them kindly (which leaves out most local men) and with the wherewithal to provide a better life than the one they're living.
Think about taking two or three weeks to visit the country and, if possible, make plans to visit two or three different cities and different islands. You'll find many of the expats here (including myself) willing to introduce you to "normal" women who have requested introductions to westerners. It is not a place where meeting women is difficult.
Lots of luck.
GE
FW, Blink and GE for your comments and advice about my brief experience with the Asian ladys on-line. Very kind of you to take the time and I have read them thoroughly. I live in the East and the farthest west I have been is
California. The more I read here and the more I hear from a few of the ladys at asianeuro there is a trip further West in my future.
Thanks again.
Lookin
I too was a bit naive and believed a girl on ABC loved me a few years back. I had a trip set up to meet her. I then tried logging on with a different name and with a different ip address (they see those you know) and she used the same lines on my "new" personality as well. I think she even liked the "new guy" better than my original self.
Anyway, I went ahead with my trip, but I didnt see her. I'm so glad I didn't get locked down with just one girl. You will feel like a rock star over there. Just treat them nice.
oh, BTW, on a subsequent trip I txt her I was there and we met. In person all she had were sad stories and wanted money from me. I prolly could have done her, but was not interested.
just go, have fun and you may not want to go home! (Those cam girls are a money drain) avoid them unless you really don't mind spending the money without "real" return. I do understand why guys do it, but they should just take the plunge and go in person.
Yes, I noticed the same thing about girls hedging their bets (as GE mentions below). And we should be doing the same thing! I've got so many phone numbers and email addresses that it's a logistical nightmare just trying to keep things organized. I don't blame them for doing the same thing. Before going to a location I make a message and then send it to my prime prospects - sometimes as many as 15 people. (*** see note below)
I always add my name and additional info so that they might somehow remember me. What irritates me is that some of them reply something like "hu u" and of course don't add their own name. If you ask them the same question they act insulted. "you txted me, why you ask" The problem is matching the replies with my list of names. On my last visit that included AC, MLA, Cebu and Davao, so sometimes I get a text and I have no idea who or where it's coming from.
Another problem I had. I text a girl. She texts back and says, "why you text me....you called me yesterday". Now I assume I called and talked to her so now I'm racking my brain to remember which one it was. Later it turns out I called and there was no response. So again, I don't know who it is.
I use Globe - what does it mean when you call and get only beeps? Is the phone just turned off?
Other times I call and get a message "...unattended or out of service".
*** I was a subscriber to Cherry Bl until March. So, in the course of four months I found that some of the phone numbers no longer worked. In a couple cases I then got online and sent an email, but the reply often arrived too late since I don't go online that often when I'm traveling. I missed a few very good prospects because of that, including one that said, "I have a car and could have taken you around..." Next time I will try to email /chat with prospects in advance to confirm phone numbers.
X man
[QUOTE=GoodEnough]Here in Davao, where I live, it's not at all unusual to find ladies in the Internet Cafes chatting with four to five boyfriends or fiancees simultaneously. One girl explained to me her belief that most of the guys would never come over here, and so, by chatting to, and getting involved with several men at the same time, she was multiplying her odds that one of these guys would eventually actually come here, perhaps fall in love with her, and take her the hell out of here. If you think about it, this is not a bad business model.
GE[/QUOTE]
Of course we also have to look out for the ones using fake pics.
Check this girl out from CB#C00608752
Pictures attached here as well.
When I sent her a message and accused her of using fake pics here is what she replied with.
"Hey,
are you accusing me of using fake pictures...back off man...if you find me fake..that is not my problem...mover over.and wish you the best in luck! "
Doesn't even sound like a Filipina type of response. Well I told her I wasn't accusing her, that I knew they were fake. Of course no more messages from her.
She will ask for money or break some other rule soon enough and be kicked off the site.
To make sure you do not have a problem with fake girls or girls trying to fool you I suggest you tell them you have been to the Philippines many times before.
If you have never been to the Philippines you can gain enough information from this site to tell them you were in Makati and stayed at this hotel or that one. By doing this you are more likely to not get responses from the scam girls as they figure you know the deal. I actually state in my profile that I am tired of girls on CB with fake pics and trying to cheat guys. That cuts down alot as well. Personally I have never been scammed, but thought it would be practical to use it and I believe that it has helped weed out the fakes.
I have been there many times so I do know the deal. Helps alot when dealing on line setting up future meetings or if you are trying to meet a future mate.
FF
To be fair there a lot of ladies who say in their profiles "No playboy's" "No games" etc etc. It cut's both way's guy's.
I kinda admire the tenacity & drive of many of these young women to find someone - anyone - to get them the hell out'ta [insert county here] ...
I personally knew a couple of cousins of my wife who very computer illiterate & inexperienced, their bakla male cousin used to go online with their profiles & type lovey dovey messages to prospects in the hope of snagging a fish.
In return for 'helping' the girls he got his cheap jollies & a chance to ask a kickback if the girl scored, hehe. What a hoot. :)
Of course there are hard core scammers out there also.
Amavida
Guys,
I contacted a girl with a cute profile on a regular dating site. Turns out she's a camgirl.
Below you will find our conversation on a normal messenger program. I realy admire her tenacity and the part of she being from Canada. LOL
strato52: hello
Angel love Alonzo: hi
strato52: where are you from?
Angel love Alonzo: Canada babe...
Angel love Alonzo: 21 F Canada.. Angel
strato52: realy? i thought Philippines
Angel love Alonzo: yes babe...
Angel love Alonzo: but now im here in canada
strato52: lucky you
Angel love Alonzo: why babe?
Angel love Alonzo: lucky in what?
strato52: Beacuse it's nice? Well I will be in Manila next week
strato52: but in winter it's very cold I go skying to Canada every year
Angel love Alonzo: hahaha
Angel love Alonzo: cool
Angel love Alonzo: i like skying too
Angel love Alonzo: hope we cant get it on...
strato52: sure, would love to
Angel love Alonzo: hehehe
Angel love Alonzo: your cute huh
strato52: sure. all the girls like me
strato52: what about you?
Angel love Alonzo: well well
strato52: do you have a cam?
Angel love Alonzo: yup babe..
Angel love Alonzo: babe...
Angel love Alonzo: i want to be honest im a camgirl babe..
Angel love Alonzo: do you hate camgirls like me?
strato52: I guessed so
strato52: no,
strato52: I actualy think you girls are pretty clever
Angel love Alonzo: cool so you can see me now if you like babe...
Angel love Alonzo: i will give you my alternative link to see me in my site and my promocode so you can get in for free
strato52: hmm, why not?
strato52: so where are you? Phils?
Angel love Alonzo: im in makati city babe..
strato52: cool I am in city garden hotel honey. wanna meet?
Angel love Alonzo: lol
Angel love Alonzo: haha
Angel love Alonzo: yeah
strato52: ok
strato52: what's your phone?
Angel love Alonzo: cellphone? or landline?
strato52: cell
strato52: we can also have a drink at bronx first if u like
Angel love Alonzo: yes cool
Angel love Alonzo: ok i will give you my cell if you can sign sign up my link twice...
Angel love Alonzo: lol
Angel love Alonzo: deal?
strato52: Baby, I have a better deal
strato52: when we meet i give you a gift, so that you don't have 2 share the money with the owners of the studio and all the other guys that make money of you
Angel love Alonzo: what what?
strato52: deal sweetie?
strato52: I did that already with some of your collegues
strato52: they were happy
Angel love Alonzo: aww damn.......
Angel love Alonzo: did you canceled it?
strato52: never signed up. the other girls didn't wanna share the money with the owners LOL clever girls
Angel love Alonzo: what?
Angel love Alonzo: tell me babe...
Angel love Alonzo: did you signed up to them?
strato52: no, just chatted on yahoo, called them, had some party barhoppoing and paid them
strato52: you can have the same deal. I am generous. If not, I won't be angry, plenty of clever cute girls around in Makati
Angel love Alonzo: ok...
strato52: deal or no deal sweetie?
Angel love Alonzo: deal babe..
Angel love Alonzo: are you ready now?
strato52: always
Angel love Alonzo: great
Angel love Alonzo: LINK to her signup page
Angel love Alonzo: there is my link babe..
Angel love Alonzo: listen babe...
Angel love Alonzo: just fill up only the first page ok...
strato52: Baby, I won't sign up to anything where I need to use a credit card.
Angel love Alonzo: awww
Angel love Alonzo: you said its deal...
Angel love Alonzo:
strato52: no, my deal. Phone number and money that you don't have to share when we meet in Bronx or LA Cafe or whereever u like
Angel love Alonzo:
strato52: ok?
Angel love Alonzo: ok what babe?
strato52: My deal
Angel love Alonzo: LINK to her signup page
Angel love Alonzo: babe..
strato52: Forget it honey. I will NOT sign up. I wish you lots of success with your business. There is a sucker born everyday, I am just not one of them. if you change your mind, you can send me your cell. Otherwise, take good care Sweetie
Angel love Alonzo: babe...
Angel love Alonzo: just give me a vote in my site babe
strato52: sure give me any credit card number i can use
strato52: beacause I will never use mine
Angel love Alonzo: sorry babe i dont have
Angel love Alonzo: why you dont like yours babe
Angel love Alonzo: whats wrong?
strato52: no way I use it there
Angel love Alonzo: your IP address is recorded babe for security reason so you will not get fraud so its really safe and secured babe..
strato52: babe, stop asking. I won't just do it.
Angel love Alonzo: so what are you worry babe..
strato52: It's either my deal or no deal at all
strato52: your call honey
Angel love Alonzo: ok no deal at all
Angel love Alonzo: bye...
strato52: good luck
Here is another chat from a girl from a regular site. Short and to the point. LOL.
Just a hint guys, if any Philippina is calling you Babe or Honey in the first chats then she wants something more from you than just your love...
strato52: hello
glimmering nina: hi
glimmering nina: how are u?
strato52: I am good and you?
glimmering nina: not good
strato52: what happened?
glimmering nina: i dont have a money to pay my eletric bill bebe
strato52: that sounds hard
glimmering nina: yeah bebe
glimmering nina: can u help me bebe
strato52: maybe next week when we meet
glimmering nina: ahh i see
glimmering nina: but how can we communicate with out my computer bebe
strato52: just give me your cell
glimmering nina: how can we meet with out my computer bebe
glimmering nina: i dont have a cell phone bebe
strato52: Realy? you must be the first Philipina I met that doesn't
glimmering nina: ohh really?
strato52: right
strato52: so just give me the landline
glimmering nina: if ill give you my landline u will send me money for my eletric bill bebe?
strato52: no honey
glimmering nina: ahh i think u cant help me
strato52: I can. Meet me in LA café on monday
glimmering nina: where is that?
strato52: Makati
glimmering nina: kk
strato52: Why don't you give the cell of a friend?
strato52: ok, good luck for you then
strato52: There is a sucker born everyday, but I am not one of them.
why waste time with those gurls when you in PI....they wont meet you up. they workin on camsites, they focus on their job, you can tell them what you want, even you offer them 1 K US$ they wont accept LOL
if you want gurls from there, chat them up from ur own country
I got a nice link for you LOL (hope jackson wont delete it its not my website LOL or any other forum)
[url]http://home.hawaii.rr.com/beggars/[/url]
Hope you not find ur name there :D
Anyway, if you wana met them up, chat them before, make sure u get their ym id or/and cp numbers. Sometimes you can score, sometimes not, depdn on ur looks and what you tell them. Dont tell them you do that with other gurls before. You tell them you just comin for them.
When Im in PI (this week :D), my ym status is on SMS when Im offline so I get all the offflines from my contacts and chat with them any time of the day and if Im not busy I meet up and check things out.
Remember, they can wait to meet you, dont wait for them. Time is money if you there only for a limited time.
happy hunting all
Blink
Well I've said this before, but I recommend you DO NOT tell them that you realize they are trying to scam you. If they get caught out then they'll refine their technique and try again. (well, the smarter ones will).
Let them waste their time. Once you realize they are on the make, just tell them you have to go -- end of chat.
The person with the model pictures is a good example. The pictures look too good to be true, and now you've let him/her know that they are obvious. Now, a smart scammer will go over to FilipinaHeart, find some really cute pictures of a real woman and put them on the fake site.
I suppose Strato enjoys playing cat and mouse, but I still think it's best to avoid letting them know you know!
Nevertheless Strato, thanks for sharing.
X Man
[QUOTE=Strato52]Here is another chat from a girl from a regular site. Short and to the point. LOL.
Just a hint guys, if any Philippina is calling you Babe or Honey in the first chats then she wants something more from you than just your love...
SNIP
strato52: Why don't you give the cell of a friend?
strato52: ok, good luck for you then
strato52: There is a sucker born everyday, but I am not one of them.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=X Man]Well I've said this before, but I recommend you DO NOT tell them that you realize they are trying to scam you. If they get caught out then they'll refine their technique and try again. (well, the smarter ones will).
Let them waste their time. Once you realize they are on the make, just tell them you have to go -- end of chat.
The person with the model pictures is a good example. The pictures look too good to be true, and now you've let him/her know that they are obvious. Now, a smart scammer will go over to FilipinaHeart, find some really cute pictures of a real woman and put them on the fake site.
I suppose Strato enjoys playing cat and mouse, but I still think it's best to avoid letting them know you know!
Nevertheless Strato, thanks for sharing.
X Man[/QUOTE]
I'm not sure if you meant to imply that Filipina Heart does not have scammer, actually I'm sure you didn't, but that is how it reads. Obviously the same things are happening on FH.
The pictures I posted are without a doubt scanned pictures. Which means they most likely came from a magazine. Which is why I posted them. I know some regular girls scan pictures, but not from paper like a magazine. It is very easy to tell the difference if you just look for a minute or two.
My point is if you use the Internet date sites for either hook ups, dates or to really find a lady to marry, it is best to state in your profile that you know the ways of the Philippines. That you have been to the Philippines, even if you have not. You can tell a real girl you meet later the truth, she will understand. This way the scammers just leave you alone.
I found that when I did this on my profile the number of hits I was getting dropped dramatically. Could be a coincidence..who knows
[QUOTE=Frequent Flier]I found that when I did this on my profile the number of hits I was getting dropped dramatically. Could be a coincidence..who knows[/QUOTE]
I joined Date In Asia last week, thanks to Huis Wijn, and I state that I am in the Philippines and what I am looking for (long-term relationship wink wink) and I still got 300 messages. About 1 in 5 is a scammer, asking for money or wants to meet ASAP. I can come to your hotel right now! I ask if they want to have sex, thet say no just be my GF. I have to laugh at them and I tell them, WOW, that is way too fast to establish a lasting relationship.
I met one 28 year old from Leyte and she wanted to meet me in Manila (me buy ticket) after two messages and I told her no thanks because we just met and if it don't work out, we are stuck together three days. Her profile states god-fearing man, not looking for sex. I asked her where she would stay and she replied "with you..hehehe". She was gone faster then you can say barfine!
I love the Philippines. But I am sad, only 9 months left here and I have to return back to US.
Robb
I just started yesterday on the site and spent a few hours. Pissed off a few good looking girls that were very innocent but finally getting some progress. One girl says that she works for an agency and she is a travel guide. Their rates are cheap 2000 peso/day. She said that if they don't like the person they don't sleep with them and they have to order another girl that will. I sent her a picture and she said either her or a friend would be available when I got there. she sent me her picture and will send the other girls tomorrow. HAS ANYONE RUN ACROSS THIS. IS IT FOR REAL>
[QUOTE=Canada]HAS ANYONE RUN ACROSS THIS. IS IT FOR REAL>[/QUOTE]
IMHO, you do not need this. Hook up with a member from this site if you have not been here before. You can also make it on your own. It is very easy. When do you arrive? Any girl you meet here can be your tour guide.
Robb
[QUOTE=Canada]One girl says that she works for an agency and she is a travel guide. Their rates are cheap 2000 peso/day. HAS ANYONE RUN ACROSS THIS. IS IT FOR REAL>[/QUOTE]
There have been several women on CL lately soliciting for tour guide service. What is the girls name and age? Anyway Robbaf is right in that a tour guide is the last thing you need. Any woman you meet will gladly double as a guide! If you're buying, she's flying!
Freq flyer, what I meant is that since she now knows that her pictures are not believable, she might go somewhere on the net and get more believable pictures.
Robbaf, not "any girl" can be your tour guide. My Manila girl had trouble communicating with Bohol boatman. In Davao I asked a lady about a good place to eat -- she suggested Jollibee. Another Davao girl suggested we meet at 2:30 for a trip to Paradise Beach -- aparently unaware that day use is until 5pm and then the boats stop and you must pay an overnight charge. If a girl is somewhat educated and knows the area, she can help a lot with communication, saving money, avoiding scams....but not always.
Nevertheless, the lady offering tour guide services to Canada for 2000 is just using a euphemism. The tour she's offerring is the area under her jeans.
X Man
Here I am again with an advice to my ISG friends; Cebuanas.com has a 7 days free membership now (only for new members I think, but I am not sure; try to contact Farrah of the staff there)
I applied for it and in two days got over 50 messages, although I am "old" (67, but what is old anyway.).
Try before you buy. Good.
When you are a member you can chat and invite girls to one of the free Messengers. Nothing in the way.
Hi friends of ISG. I have another interesting dating site. Everybody knows Cebuanas, but they offer a 7-days free membership (I think only for new members, but you can contact the staff, Mrs Farrah).
I applied for it and I got over 50 messages in 2 days, although I am "old" and ugly. (67 yrs. Before-war quality). You can chat there too and I prefer to go to one of the free Messenger services.
Enjoy
[QUOTE=Huis Wijn]Hi friends of ISG. I have another interesting dating site. Everybody knows Cebuanas, but they offer a 7-days free membership[/QUOTE]
Hello HW,
Thanks for the heads up but that promo already expired. Please give us an update on your progress with your newfound chatmates!
I've joined up at Cebuanas and have 150 smiles and 71 messages in a month. I've chatted with a heap, most of the time they want to chat through YM, which I think is better. A lot of good looking women here, and the scamers as well.
Heres my story concerning a girl I've started chatting through Cebuanas. I wouldn't mind what you guys think out there.
I've started chatting with one who is a real cutie. 29, from cebu and shes a teacher who earns about $400/ month. After chatting with her about 3 times she tells me she loves me, to which i said after hardly knowing me. I told her I couldnt love someone who I've just met and especally over the internet as such. She then says I'm her "close friend".
Anyway she wants marriage, preferably by the end of the year.
I told her I might go visit her in '07. To this she asks me where will I stay in Cebu, so I mention a few hotels. (I've never been to the PI'S).
Then she asks if she can stay with me, as she lives with her family. That way, she says, we can get to know each other better, and she can show me around, etc, etc. She says its up to me, either she can stay or she will stay with her family. I say OK, u can stay if u want, and then I start to hint at sex. She tells me that she can share a bed with me, but no sex as she is a virgin who is saving herself for her future husband. Only kissing and hugging allowed.
Now my alarm bells are starting to go off, and I'm thinking that she wants out of the PI's, and I may be the golden goose. To her credit, I've known her for a month 6 weeks, and thus far no asking of money. Although she is now pestering me for photos to send to her via snail mail.
Just wondering what advice you guys have got out there for me, or anyone with a similar story to share.
PM me or in channel would be good:)
Dan
I was in Philippines two weeks ago...
Most of the girls contacted on FlipinaHeart were just interested by money pumped out of my pocket by SMS and missed calls.
At the beginning I called back.... But quickly I have understood that their numbers are overtaxed... Expansive communications at a special price... no real interest to meet me.
BE CAUTIOUS WITH THIS SCAM
[QUOTE=DanTheMan]I've joined up at Cebuanas and have 150 smiles and 71 messages in a month. I've chatted with a heap, most of the time they want to chat through YM, which I think is better. A lot of good looking women here, and the scamers as well.
Heres my story concerning a girl I've started chatting through Cebuanas. I wouldn't mind what you guys think out there.
I've started chatting with one who is a real cutie. 29, from cebu and shes a teacher who earns about $400/ month. After chatting with her about 3 times she tells me she loves me, to which i said after hardly knowing me. I told her I couldnt love someone who I've just met and especally over the internet as such. She then says I'm her "close friend".
Anyway she wants marriage, preferably by the end of the year.
I told her I might go visit her in '07. To this she asks me where will I stay in Cebu, so I mention a few hotels. (I've never been to the PI'S).
Then she asks if she can stay with me, as she lives with her family. That way, she says, we can get to know each other better, and she can show me around, etc, etc. She says its up to me, either she can stay or she will stay with her family. I say OK, u can stay if u want, and then I start to hint at sex. She tells me that she can share a bed with me, but no sex as she is a virgin who is saving herself for her future husband. Only kissing and hugging allowed.
Now my alarm bells are starting to go off, and I'm thinking that she wants out of the PI's, and I may be the golden goose. To her credit, I've known her for a month 6 weeks, and thus far no asking of money. Although she is now pestering me for photos to send to her via snail mail.
Just wondering what advice you guys have got out there for me, or anyone with a similar story to share.
PM me or in channel would be good:)
Dan[/QUOTE]In my experience she is being honest with you. I know plenty of decent girls just like this.
This is EXACTLY how decent girls talk/behave when they are trying to find a decent guy to form a marriage with. Many girls save their virginity for 'the one' because it's a big deal in their culture ( and besides in a country so poor it is often all they have of value).
What you have on your hands is a decent girl trying to find a good husband.
If you don't want marriage, tell her & don't waste her time (If you just want sex there are PLENTY of prostitutes to satisfy you there).
Cheers,
Amavida
I have found that cam models are a good source of meeting girls. I have met about 10 so far. Most are genuine and want marriage but again be cautious of the scammers. I even got one cherry girl from there but still feel bad about it. I guess I am getting soft in my old age of 40!
I wonder if the sms scam is the reason 2 of the girls on my YM contact list have "I'm on SMS" next to there chat names? Whenever I try to I.M. them the message is "so and so will receive your message on her mobile device".
[QUOTE=Amavida]In my experience she is being honest with you. I know plenty of decent girls just like this.
This is EXACTLY how decent girls talk/behave when they are trying to find a decent guy to form a marriage with. Many girls save their virginity for 'the one' because it's a big deal in their culture ( and besides in a country so poor it is often all they have of value).
What you have on your hands is a decent girl trying to find a good husband.
If you don't want marriage, tell her & don't waste her time (If you just want sex there are PLENTY of prostitutes to satisfy you there).
Cheers,
Amavida[/QUOTE]
Of course one of the unique things about the Philippines and the pretty girls you can meet there is they can lose their virginity many times. I guess it is something in the water that bestows virginity upon the girls multiple times.
Or knowing the clergy there and their giving ways, I'm sure for the appropriate donation to the church they will bless water that when bathed in restores the virginity of truly virtuous girls. Meaning all girls in the Philippines
FF
If she has a job and she never once asks for money, then it's more likely than not that she is for real and not a scammer although the virginity part is sometimes debatable. But yes I agree if she is looking for a husband and you're not looking for a wife, you should do the honorable thing, that is, tell her and move on to the next one. Many more choices out there.
Notice I do not say 100% for sure not a scammer, there may exist scammers who have a lot of patience to bag the big fish.
I once dated and deflowered a 30 yr old (not a Filipina). Despite my best efforts she was always pathetic when it came to sex. Any woman who is 29+ and is still a virgin may not have much of a sex drive. Just my two cents.
Did you tell her you wanted a virgin? Sometimes they'll tell you what you want to hear. I always make it clear that I have no interest in virgins -- and I don't.
Anyway, if you decide to pursue things, I recommend you arrive a few days earlier than the date you tell her you will arrive. Then you can play a bit. She sounds like the type who will latch on to you and make it difficult to explore other ladies.
BTW, what city is she in?
X Man
[QUOTE=DanTheMan]I've joined up at Cebuanas and have 150 smiles and 71 messages in a month. I've chatted with a heap, most of the time they want to chat through YM, which I think is better. A lot of good looking women here, and the scamers as well.
Heres my story concerning a girl I've started chatting through Cebuanas. I wouldn't mind what you guys think out there.
I've started chatting with one who is a real cutie. 29, from cebu and shes a teacher who earns about $400/ month. After chatting with her about 3 times she tells me she loves me, to which i said after hardly knowing me. I told her I couldnt love someone who I've just met and especally over the internet as such. She then says I'm her "close friend".
Anyway she wants marriage, preferably by the end of the year.
I told her I might go visit her in '07. To this she asks me where will I stay in Cebu, so I mention a few hotels. (I've never been to the PI'S).
Then she asks if she can stay with me, as she lives with her family. That way, she says, we can get to know each other better, and she can show me around, etc, etc. She says its up to me, either she can stay or she will stay with her family. I say OK, u can stay if u want, and then I start to hint at sex. She tells me that she can share a bed with me, but no sex as she is a virgin who is saving herself for her future husband. Only kissing and hugging allowed.
Now my alarm bells are starting to go off, and I'm thinking that she wants out of the PI's, and I may be the golden goose. To her credit, I've known her for a month 6 weeks, and thus far no asking of money. Although she is now pestering me for photos to send to her via snail mail.
Just wondering what advice you guys have got out there for me, or anyone with a similar story to share.
PM me or in channel would be good:)
Dan[/QUOTE]
*** I cannot confirm anything I say below...I'm just making assumptions.
OMG, this is what happens when a scammer gets trained. She gets good. Very good.
Someone who has never been to the Philippines might not notice that this "housemaid", rides a very sporty motorbike and also has friends with pretty good photography skills / camera to take a picture as she whizzes down the highway.
(I'm not enrolled at CB at this moment, but those of you who are, please send a message and ask what "orphanage" or what city, or an address, or whatever. Then share notes here and see if we can find some anomolies.)
PLZ READ MY PROFILE........
hi i am kelly dablo i am single and alone
in my life forever because i don`t have
anymore parents because they commuted
suicide...because of they can`t accept our
business before are down...and when they
was die i was 9 years old and i was stay
at orphanage....and when i was 15 i was
disided to stay own my own......and you
know what i was hoping that i can search or
find my right guy for me..and he can accept
who ever i am....you know its very hard to
find a serious on site`s because mostly are
wants playing games and that is i hate
must..you know i am really serious
woman....and looking a serious man that he
can accept me....i know no one can trust
easy in the web sites because mostly
chatter, i mean mostly Filipino are they
chat just to earn money.....maybe there
thinking American or western man lots of
money.....will i am not that kind of person,
all i just want is true love...thats all i
need.....anyways i am half Filipino and
half Turkish.......but i was grew up here
in Phil...... and i am so think full that i am not belong to the other ladies or girl that sale there soul just to earn money. . .will i am prude to be house maid because i know its a legal job. . .
This would be funny if I didn't know better. Good looking 29 yr old, standing 5' 6", writes this in her CherryBl profile:
**im maria looking for someone here ..looking for serious relationship....... and men who believe age doesnt matter ........... thanks
I don't know what the average marriage age is in the Philippines, but these girls hit 24 and they start worrying about being old maids.
I'm going to make a huge over-generalization based on limited experience, but the online ladies under 22 tend to play little games, require more time, arrive late, etc. The older ones a ready for a quick shag. They know they've passed the "sell by" date and are eager for you to sample the goods. Or maybe they just haven't been laid in a while....
If anyone takes the time to look at the profile:
1) Both pictures are from a web cam, but hard to determine if she's in a net cafe or home or somewhere else. Big stuffed dolls in the background are a good indicator of an ADULT web cam girl.
2) Beautiful, glossy, thick black hair...and those bushy eyebrows haven't been trimmed. This is a good sign that she's just a regular gal looking for "love". Or even that her job in "education" means she has conservative limits on her appearance. Of course she's going to have a lot of bushy hair down at the Y too. Send her a razor for a Christmas present.
3) My guess is this lady is legit and I wish I had the time to go to Z city to meet her. Actually, I don't even have paid access to CB, so I'm out of luck either way.
She's from Zamboanga. Mahku, did you meet this one???
C'mon guys, give us some reviews of your chat friends, or strategies, or whatever.
X Man
She's in AC and has a "wonderful boyfriend". Okay, which one of you guys took this girl off the market and how much are you sending her?
(this is a joke, I don't know anything about this woman)
X Man
[QUOTE=X Man]
She's from Zamboanga. Mahku, did you meet this one???
C'mon guys, give us some reviews of your chat friends, or strategies, or whatever. X Man[/QUOTE]
Believe it or not, I am working in Zamboanga right now. She one of 2000 (That I have met and want to get out of here) here. This is an untapped city.
I have yet to meet a working girl (GRO...girl rent overnite). Most of them are really looking for anyone to take them out of the Z. Almost 99% have never been to Manila and will go in a heartbeat. Round trip to Manila runs 6000P (PAL) two days in advance.
I just posted my ad on Date In Asia and I got so many hits age 18-50 from here. I am 40, white, gwapo (according to them), have money and look like a good meal ticket. Most girls tell me that too many guys abroad want to C2C and for them to get naked, but never come to see them. If you are here, you are in!
It helps to be working in the Philippines for one year.
Robb
Dan, been there, done that. I would expect that if you do share a bed with her, it will be the first time that she has been in close contact with a male. I would guess that within 15 minutes, her clothes will be off, and she will be ready to dispose of her virginity. Whether you tell her that you will not marry, or else. She will not be able to stop herself. Often filipinas are so protected by their family that they never get a chance to experiment. And of course there is basically no contraception, so pregnancyy is a major threat.
If you do not follow through, she will probably still thank you for the rest of her life, and she will truly love you for the rest of her life. But she will not press you to marry. he is now satisfied.
I have been there, done that, no regrets either way.
Your choice.
Gangles has a good point, although I'm not so sure about the 15 min. I'd say cut things short that first evening to show her how honorable you are (stop laughing) and then see what kind of rewards come in the morning.
As for the family influence, Gangles also has a good point. Some of these online girls want you to meet their family, or bring along one or more family members. Some guys say this is a big mistake, but I've never regretted it. Once the family sees what a nice and honorable guy you are (stop laughing), the girl gets more of a free rein. In some cases they encourage the lady to go for it. Yea, thanks for the help!!!
I met one online gal's papa on a Cebu mountain. Really basic stuff, cooking over a fire out behind the hut. She asked her father if she could accompany me for the remainder of my trip. He said yes. She told me this after the fact, whlie we were still there. It kind of blew me away, "you asked your father WHAT?" I guess it was just a formality since she was the breadwinner of the family. She was a Mactan factory worker. She and I spent a few wonderful days at Alona beach.
X Man
[QUOTE=Gangles]Dan, been there, done that. I would expect that if you do share a bed with her, it will be the first time that she has been in close contact with a male. I would guess that within 15 minutes, her clothes will be off, and she will be ready to dispose of her virginity. Whether you tell her that you will not marry, or else. She will not be able to stop herself. Often filipinas are so protected by their family that they never get a chance to experiment. And of course there is basically no contraception, so pregnancyy is a major threat.
If you do not follow through, she will probably still thank you for the rest of her life, and she will truly love you for the rest of her life. But she will not press you to marry. he is now satisfied.
I have been there, done that, no regrets either way.
Your choice.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=X Man]As for the family influence, Gangles also has a good point. Some of these online girls want you to meet their family, or bring along one or more family members. Some guys say this is a big mistake, but I've never regretted it. Once the family sees what a nice and honorable guy you are (stop laughing), the girl gets more of a free rein. In some cases they encourage the lady to go for it. Yea, thanks for the help!!![/QUOTE]
Yes this has been my experience as well. Treating me like a long lost son and having the run of the house, being the guest of honor at dinner and then getting drunk with everybody afterwards! You cannot beat Philippine hospitality!
I really appreciate the help you guys are giving me. The girl I know lives in CEBU. I reckon shes the main breadwinner of the household. Her family has a small business, but its not much. She actually said to me that if I wanted her to stay with me, I would have to ask her mum first. I doubt her mum would say no.
Anyway shes said that she'd meet me at the airport, then asked me if I would hold her hand once we met, and then because I'd be tired from the flight, that she'd massage me! She also mentioned that if we were to meet, that it it JUST TO MEET HER, AND NOBODY ELSE. She made that really clear. i wouldn't care. She's cute, and if you saw her hanging off my arm, you'd wonder why. Anyway, I wouldn't care:)
A couple of other things: she says that if I reckon shes pretty I should buy her flowers, (from Australia). She also loves the cam chat. She can't get enough of it.
Thats about all I can think off. Any other questions I'll let u experts know:)
Thanks again, I appreciate it!
DAN
DantheMan, at this point, I doubt you're going to take our advice. I'm certainly no Casanova but I'll tell you my gut feeling and you do what you want with it.
If a girl offers to stay with me, but says she's a virgin, I'd feel there is a contradiction. And my gut tells me she's not a virgin. Virginity isn't important to me, but if she's trying to deceive me that is a definite deal killer.
(I had a similar situation. Spent the night with a girl I met online, a "virgin". We had all kinds of play, but no insertion. Next day when I told a lady friend (a former sex professional) the story, she just rolled her eyes. I said, "what?". She replies, "do you really think she's a virgin". Duh, it hit me like a brick. This girl was shy and sweet and I had believed her all the way. Well, next day, I had a date with the "virgin", ignored her very minimal resistance and gave her a good fking. No indication of pain, nor a drop of blood. If my friend had not brought me to my senses I might have thought, "well, that went well considering you're a virgin." Instead, I asked, "why did you tell me you were a virgin?" Her reply was short - "sorry". )
Back to DantheMan's situation...As for "you can only meet her" and the "flowers", you haven't even met her and she's telling you what to do. Of course she's offered to "massage" you, but again, my gut reacts badly to women who are too controlling.
If I were in your shoes, I'd not make any promises (it's easy for her to keep records of everything you type), and plan your trip so that she gets an interview, but nothing more. And if she asks for "help" a week before your trip, I wouldn't send a dime. Arrive a few days earlier, play, then meet her. Call her from your hotel one day before your "scheduled" arrival and tell her the airline suddenly had an available seat, so you were able to come a day earlier than expected. (I've used that white lie SOOO many times.)
One more thing Dan, I wouldn't think anything odd if you had three cute young women "hanging on your arm". You could have three different ones each day of your trip. Your lady knows THIS and that's why she wants to meet you at the airport -- to make sure no else steals you away. I had one lady (who fked me vigourously, but had a curfew) tell me that the streets of Davao were dangerous and that I should not go out at night. I ignored her, but to be honest, she almost snagged me. I was "in love" for about two weeks -- and then she started asking for "help". First it was the "electric bill", and when that didn't work, "money for food".
Am I being too negative here? Dan, I hope things work out exactly the way you want them to work out. I just chatted with a 27 yr old Filipina who met a guy online (cherry blossom), he visited her in Mindanao, proposed, and now she's living happily in the US. Sounds like a happy ending (except for the fact that she's chatting online with me...ha, ha).
X Man
[QUOTE=DanTheMan]I really appreciate the help you guys are giving me. The girl I know lives in CEBU. I reckon shes the main breadwinner of the household. Her family has a small business, but its not much. She actually said to me that if I wanted her to stay with me, I would have to ask her mum first. I doubt her mum would say no.
Anyway shes said that she'd meet me at the airport, then asked me if I would hold her hand once we met, and then because I'd be tired from the flight, that she'd massage me! She also mentioned that if we were to meet, that it it JUST TO MEET HER, AND NOBODY ELSE. She made that really clear. i wouldn't care. She's cute, and if you saw her hanging off my arm, you'd wonder why. Anyway, I wouldn't care:)
A couple of other things: she says that if I reckon shes pretty I should buy her flowers, (from Australia). She also loves the cam chat. She can't get enough of it.
Thats about all I can think off. Any other questions I'll let u experts know:)
Thanks again, I appreciate it!
DAN[/QUOTE]
I seek the counsel of the experienced mongers here. I am considering hitching up with a 21yo trophy pinay and bringing her to the US on a K1.
This girl is fine by any standard. She would look very attractive to wealthy pinoys (tall and slender with BIG TITS). I know she has dated 1 or 2 pinoys, but was burned by them and seems determined to leave with the next available western guy. I think she gets the idea that marrying a pinoy is a dead end.
I met her once, and her mom was serving her up on a platter. Its obvious they are counting on future income for the family from the daughter. OTOH, although she is needy, she never directly asked for support. Indirectly, yeah, many times. ("I'm going to pawn my cell phone, I'm canvassing my neighbors for my graduation expenses", things like that).
I've chatted w/her about 2 years. No one else has snagged her (unless she's married to a pinoy now and I don't know it LOL). I believe she is so attractive older western guys are intimidated by her. She is sweet, and know how to push my buttons. Always seems sincere, asked me about my family ancestry, little things like that. If she's on a playbook, its a good one.
So here are my fallback plans:
- The Prenup. I jokingly told my divorce lawyer I needed the "Massey Prenup" for my next marriage. He told me they can write one (this is in the Midwest) that gives the wife NOTHING if she leaves. Its hard to believe, but I will be checking it out. I will buy a new home before I am married. My business is incorporated, and I will hold all shares.
- Continuing support. I don't mind sending a little home to her family. I know most do anyway. Start small and allow for regular increases if I am pleased with her performance as my wife. I will be the one to decide how much, and she will know that, and her mom will also. (we'll see how long that lasts LOL).
- Keep her well. I do ok, above average and getting better off. If she is happy why leave? But I would not like the feeling that she could be sleeping around. Thats the biggest thing to give me pause.
- Don't have kids. At least not for the 1st 2 years. If she wants to bolt after she has her green card, I won't worry about child support. She says she does want kids, so its a sign of sincerity (or she's on the playbook).
- I've got time for a mistake. I'm in my early 50's. If this one does not work out, I can go back for the more homely but dependable type. No I am not going to move to the PI. I still have a life in the world here.
- The VISA support thing. The continuing support rule is disturbing. I have not researched it, but the idea seems vague and unenforceable. OTOH, this is Federal govt and they can do as they like with my money. I am considering a counter in my pre-nup. Something like:
If my wife leaves she has to maintain employment, or return to the PI, and I will pay for the ticket.
If the government makes me pay support, she will reimburse me the costs. (I prob will have a hard time getting that enforced)
Well, what do you think. Let me have it.
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I have three pieces of advice from three different people. I will paraphrase liberally...
1) Spamhog (esteemed ISG member, married to a Filipna)/ A woman of 21 is still naive, still figuring things out, still experimenting. A woman of 28+ generally knows what she wants and where she's going.
2) my Grandma who married a foreign guy: At first it is exciting because everything is different, but after a few years those differences start causing problems.
3) my ex-wife, who married a foreign guy: You live in my country for one year and see how difficult it is to live in a foreign country ....only then will I move to your country.
One more thing Jambo, if you can afford TWO ex-wives, could you please buy me a beer somewhere down this long interesting road we are traveling?
X Man
I enjoy your comments X Man and here is my experience.
I joined CB out of curiosity from reading some reports here I got a lot of hits and amazing how many think I'm 'handsome man' good for the ego. However its not a good place to go for a reality check. I've had some hot looking and gorgeous girls chat me up some are very interested in marrying me during the first chat. A good photo showing blue eyes and a nice smile will work wonders. On my profile I state I'm not interested in getting married any time soon and I still get the starry eyed virgin want a family boppers. I'm looking for girls I can date and have some prospects already. I'm pretty certain you can find plenty of dating material I am just honest with them about my intentions no need to lie.
I seem to attract a lot of, what would you call them, needy beautiful girls, one lady I chat to is always hungry has no money for food she is easy on the eye and I have seen her on cam looks great in a bikini she is always dropping hints for a cellphone and if I bought her a computer we could chat every day. She looks film star quality with a film star price tag too rich for me. CB says when you go to reply to messages that you should not give a Yahoo ID until you have chatted with them for a month. I believe that is right as the ones who want to jump straight to yahoo usually are seekers of support one way or another. You have to have a tough hide some of the stories are heart breaking and could be true just remember they survived before you and will after you.
Some are really nice people and others are like mongers looking for the hit. Some are too honest and some are too dishonest. One young lady wanted me to send money for a private show we will do everything on cam? Not my style I watched as she surreptitiously slipped a small pair of panties out of her pocket along with the bra top to show me what she will wear on cam. She did this a few times so I could see she was also tempting other guys. If you keep a record of your chat easy to do on CB you can send a copy to your email and also yahoo has the ability to keep your chat. Doing this you can pick up on the stories they tell and how the facts can change.
One lady 27, I had been chatting to was helping her two younger sisters, 18, 19 doing research for their school work. Another time I asked how her sisters were and we got talking about them and found out they were 10 year old twins this time. So beware they can chat to so many guys they forget who you are I've been hit a second time from some and have played the innocent to see where the conversation leads. By the way some ladies who you become friends with show you the chats they have with jerks there are some idiots out there. Be careful I might be laughing about you with her.
I would treat CB as amusement I wouldn't take it too seriously just don't be a jerk and send money to strangers or screw up regular girls some I've chatted with I am the first westerner they have talked to online. I try to be as pleasant as I can. You can check their starting date on their profiles. As the guys who are there say you can meet regular ladies in person on the ground thats what I plan to do.
Heres one I sometimes wonder if some of these ladies are really men or baklas out for fun. You have to get them on cam to be sure.
I'm Maris, 21, and looking for a man between 18 and 70 years old.
"I'm outgoing person, fun-loving and always horny. I want to full fill all sexual fantasy of a guy. I'm open-minded, optimistic and always I get all I want. Looking for a man who can accept who I am. I want a man who can always make me feel special. Life in general have too much to offer for us. They say we should live life to the full, the question is how about doing the right and wrong? What would you prefer doing the once the said good but your not happy with it? Or being happy when almost every one oppose you. I love doing want I feel can make make happy, even though they will support me or not. They said being nasty sometimes can cause me badly. But how can I ignore it when I love doing it? Being with strangers can do you good for me. Meeting many people and knowing asking bout there point of interested more. "
You can find your true love there maybe.
You can take the girl out of the Phils, but you can't take the Phils out of the girl.
(1), She will go through cultural shock; at 21, she is most likely still malleable so this could lead her in the wrong direction. In other words, become Americanized and take on the worst characteristics of American women. Not to mention the age gap will be a negative factor in the US, much more so than in the Phils.
(2), She will get lonely without other Phils nearby. Be prepared for the phone bills. You can research alternatives like Skype, Vonage, etc. While there are concentrations of Phils in the major cities in the US, they're not nearly as large or as identifiable as the Chinese or Koreans in LA, for instance; instead, they are more spread out.
(3), Due to quality of American food and the prevalence of high fructose corn syrup, she will very likely gain too much weight. More than she would in the Phils. Avoiding that crap is damn hard, have to read every label.
(4), It's possible she may have heard of the gold mine to be had if she can stick around long enough for the green card, then divorce you. A prenup is key here.
(5), How did your past relationships fail? If you didn't deal with those issues or otherwise learn from them, you are doomed to repeat them. In other words, how is your inner game? Your pinay can only do so much to cover up your relationship deficiencies. Better than American women, true, but even pinays can only take so much in the long-term. They are known to leave their husbands in the Phils, who says they won't do that to you if they're not treated right?
Everything I've researched on the subject leans toward "don't do it". Yes there are successful relationships, but many founder after a few to several years in the US for various factors as I've given above. If one has to marry a filipina, one should stay in the Phils and keep her there. She'll be much happier in her own culture. If her family becomes a pain, one can always move to another area.
Just read Finrods advice re Jambo.
I would say Finrod is close to spot on. He has covered a lot of bases and I agree with what he says in the main.
Even if you do all the right things , a Filipina can take off , if she sees the grass is greener elsewhere.
My sister often talked for years about the sweet non pro type of filipina married to someone she knew. Filipina had two kids with the nice guy. Then one day she left him for another. I think my sister was more upset than anyone else. Why ? My sister was innocent of this trait. Yes , it can happen with western women too , but do not forget one of the main motivating factors for filipinas is a secure financial future.
I have seen some amazing examples of how much Filipinas will do to achieve that. Including , marrying the wrong guy , to get away from the endemic hopelessness and poverty of the Philippines.
Definitely agree with Finrod. If you can keep them in Philippines much better chance of success.
I have never married a filipina but I have had over 30yrs of observing friends and others marry them. High attrition rate , in my mind. Cultural barrier at work , amongst other things.
Disclaimer : I have not read one single post re this subject other than Finrods post , ha ha. But I could not resist on commenting on Finrods post , cause I thought as I read it "this guy knows what he is talking about".
Join the library , do not buy the book.
I have just now read Jambo's original query on this subject. I'm doing things backwards. For correct sequence read my first and other post on this subject before you read this one.
Seems like Jambo knows what he is doing. But what is in writing and what actually happens can be two very different things.
He says : "I've got time for a mistake. I'm in my early 50's. If this one does not work out, I can go back for the more homely but dependable type. No I am not going to move to the PI. I still have a life in the world here".
Jambo. Check this out. I believe its a case of three strikes and your out. That is , can only marry over time , three foreign wives and bring back home , over time. Not all at once , ha ha. I do not know how they can enforce that rule though , but have heard guys saying impossible to go beyond three from typically phil/thailand.
Maybe the authorities back home stall until you give up , dont know. I have a friend who has been trying for far too long to bring his second potential filipina wife back to his homeland. He does not want to marry in Philippines , potential problems if you do it that way. His legal team have had no success in getting her a visa. He is about to give up.
Others will know if three strikes and your out is fact or fiction. Personally have no verification of it.
So bear that one in mind too.
Village Maidens , accustomed to back breaking water carrying etc , and not devious city girls are the best bet , from what I can see. The best looking chick and incredibly wonderful friends wife of 20yrs now , with cute kids , and an undeserving , yes undeserving husband , was a water carrier before my friend , yes friend , married her. One in a million. No , I am not lusting after her , great face but too slim for me. So maybe the water trail is worth checking out.
These village girls have not accrued bad habits , too busy carrying water. You can train to your requirements , just what he did , including copping a lot of shit , which included butterflying would you believe. She knows he butterflies but puts up with it. He's undeserving for reasons other than that , does not provide properly for his family for starters. She goes to work , he takes kids to school , thats all he is up for. Why does she take it ? She doesnt know anything else , straight from the village , and trained to cop it. She is about 38yrs now , he started living with her when she was around 18yrs old. Reckon she might up and leave him one day. She still looks good (lusting) and can easily find an old lonely westerner who'd jump at the chance of an expert house maid , cook , sex fiend and companion with unlimited patience , all rolled into one. Only prob , she's got baggage , kids. Started having kids about ten years ago , three of them , still young.
So I am not lusting lol , not in the market for a wife , but know a good one when I see one.
That relationship has held together for around 20yrs now. It's what I would call an exception , for a cross culture marriage.
The problem with village girls is that they're...well...village girls, mostly with no education, little intellectual curiosity and of extremely limited expectations. Some may find that appealing. Personally, I would find it deadly. If what you're after is someone who will be eternally grateful for taking her from a life of toil; someone you can "mold," into your Pygmalion-like creature, then by all means go for it. It seems to me though that sooner or later you've got to get out of bed and sooner or later you're going to want to find someone with whom you can have a quasi-intelligent conversation. That pretty much leaves out most village girls.
Everything comes down to how comfortable you are with your money situation.
All women (men too) change over time. What could be a sweet innocent girl today may be a psycho tomorrow.
American government do not as a rule track,chase,arrest and deport people if they overstay9 unless they are some way connected to terrorism or illegal activities) even if you complain(Look at the number of illegal aliens we have). So it is unlikely even if you stop supporting your GF/Wife she will be out of the picture and out of the country on the next available plane.
She may say she does not want kids now but she will get smart and learn the only way to stay here is to have an american born child.
Have you considered keeping her in PHI and making frequent trips and supporting her. This is a cheap alternative. Many are doing this because it is a no risk adventure.Once she gets here all her do's and dont's in PHIL go out of the window and she will become a local that means none is taboo. Law is on her side.
Even ironclad pre nup is no good. It only means if the girl is wealthier than you , you keep your money you had before you met her ( not the date of your marriage). Techically she could be contributing her part for the money you made after meeting her. Judges do not take kindly to a rich man trying to keep his wife poor.
There are village girls and village girls.
Naturally my friends wife (see post below) , with time , became no ordinary village girl.
Nowadays holds a regular job in London City. Commuting to work on the Underground, "mind the step, mind the step", looking like a million dollars. Confidence, acquired sophistication, and no dummy that one, ha ha.
It's not that my friend is a great coach/teacher. This woman is simply someone who is willing to make the effort to secure a future for herself and her kids. She's not hanging off a foreigner. If anything her husband is hanging off her.
I also have another friend from the same country. His wife is the one who is buying the family house in the UK, whilst he stays home and collects a disability pension (arthritis). All my friends are bums, ha ha. Not really, the friend next door is in the multi million dollar class.
I would never marry, but if I was that way inclined, I'd head for the villages, find pretty ones, check them out. With the right opportunity, coaching and environment, I say they can make the transition from the third to the first world.
But all this requires effort. And most of us take the convenient road and get hooked with someone more accessible.
To each his own. But I still reckon, wife hunters should investigate the raw talent lurking in the villages.
If nothing else, you'll have a lot of fun.
One of the top 'companion' girls of my life came from a squatter village, remote from towns. Cost me P800 to taxi from the wharf, along rough roads to her family's shack by the creek. She certainly had looks, and she certainly had sophistication, even though she lived in a little tin shack, alongside a polluted creek, in the jungle. But this same girl didn't want to carry water, ha ha. She wanted to lay on her back, legs apart, and she was good at it too. That's why she went to the city where I was staying in, looking for someone like me , a potential Sugar Daddy. Met her through a filipina I knew at the time. A trophy companion if ever there was one. Have to put her in the top 3/5 of my life. Will never forget her.
After I terminated the relationship (getting too serious for my liking) her mother, instead of berating me for dumping her daughter, wrote me a lovely letter, thanking me for "looking after" her daughter. Code language for not getting her pregnant I suppose.
I felt such a cad, treating such nice people that way. That is , screwing her daughter then moving on. No doubt my exit spoiled their dream of escaping poverty through cashed up 'Joe', me. I was impressed with the wording and thought Mumma had put behind the letter. Such manners and sophistication from a Mum who most probably never went to school.
Anyway, lots of the girls we foreigners meet at bars, on the Internet, wherever, migrated from the villages at some time in their life.
I rest my case. I am not getting married now or in the future. It's what rocks your boat that counts. I like the relative 'honesty' and earthiness of the unspoiled village girls, but I admit, they have to have a brain to make it work. Filipino 's in general have brains, they just don't have the same opportunities we do. But too many of them lack common sense, that's my beef with them. My friends wife certainly has common sense, brains and used them, once she got the opportunity (England). An exception no doubt. A 'gem'. They are out there , all you have to do is put the effort in to find them.
Of course during my upcoming trip I am not seeking village girls, common sense or brains for that matter. I am seeking sex from those devious but loveable city dwellers. So convenient. Just walk around, smile and voila, "another one bites the dust", ha ha.
Sammon's post--quoted in part here--is smart. Just a couple of points. (1) If she stays illegally--no longer living married with you--it's true that Homeland Security will not actively track her down, unless you report to them that you are no longer living together married. But how will she fare without a SocSec number? And (2) Divorce and pre-nups are a state-by-state matter.
[QUOTE=Sammon]American government do not as a rule track,chase,arrest and deport people if they overstay9 unless they are some way connected to terrorism or illegal activities) even if you complain(Look at the number of illegal aliens we have). So it is unlikely even if you stop supporting your GF/Wife she will be out of the picture and out of the country on the next available plane.
She may say she does not want kids now but she will get smart and learn the only way to stay here is to have an american born child.
Have you considered keeping her in PHI and making frequent trips and supporting her. This is a cheap alternative. Many are doing this because it is a no risk adventure.Once she gets here all her do's and dont's in PHIL go out of the window and she will become a local that means none is taboo. Law is on her side.
Even ironclad pre nup is no good. It only means if the girl is wealthier than you , you keep your money you had before you met her (not the date of your marriage). Techically she could be contributing her part for the money you made after meeting her. Judges do not take kindly to a rich man trying to keep his wife poor.[/QUOTE]
I can confirm that divorce and pre-nups are a state-by-state affair. Some states actually have a good concept of separate property on their books and will honor reasonably written pre-nups. Where I live, it is possible to protect one's separate property assets without a pre-nup. I should know, I did it without hiding anything from my ex. In fairness, it was a short term marriage. For a long-term marriage, one would be better served to get that stuff into a pre-nup. But like Joking, I'm not going there again...
Thanks for all the insight and advise guys! Sorry if I turned this thread into a love and marriage column (gag--I know) I used to get a lot of good info from the Asawa forum, but its been off line.
About this girl. She's from the barangay, but not entirely country. She was a "Miss Something Or Other" a couple of times. In some of her pics she's dressed like a secretary in Makati. (I don't know where she got the money for costumes and clothes. Her dad is an equipment operator). She managed to finish a tech school so she knows a little about computers. She is no pushover, I've tested her and she lets me know nicely when I've gone too far.
Wonderful thing about pinays, they seem able to jump into any situation and tolerate it--for the sake of sending money home. They work in places Saudi and Diego Garcia! I get the feeling if a pinay left her man and come home to momma, it would be like "WTF are you don't here? (and who is going to support us now?)".
I don't want to get too personal about my 1st marriage. Just it was for her initially like, "Im 26 and I gotta get married". Later it was, "I left a career for this?" I don't ever want to feel like an accessory again.
Think of the economics. I could spend, say $6,000 to get a girl here on a K1, if you include an immigration attorney and airfares etc. 6k gets me only about four trips to the PI for mongering. On the other hand, bringing the girl here gets me at least 3 pokes a week for the next 2-3 years, with an option for more. And I get the domestic helper, cook, secretary at a nominal rate. And with a 21yo girl, I could expect 10 years of decent sex before I start getting the "I'm too tired".
Here's a couple of other stratagems I will employ should I marry a pinay:
- I have a small business, it's incorporated--not Sole Proprietor. So I will hire her on and pay her a salary, and she will be happy as a time as my secretary, receptionist, packer. (And I may be happy poking my secretary over the desk!). Eventually she may want to work outside, and she will have a little resume then to help.
- Pay her a little allowance for being my wife. She can save it. I will still send something back to her family. But when eventually the Water Buffalo needs surgery, she can decide how much of her own savings she wants to send.
Thanks again. I'll pm some of you guys when I am in CDO and Davao next month.
Thanks Jambo for saying thanks to contributors. Its a sore point of mine. Guys write in, folks go to trouble to answer in detail then silence from person who placed query in first place. I thought for a while you might be one of them, but not so , ha ha.
Reason for posting this. Your project would make interesting reading. Please keep us up to date on developments , setbacks etc.
You are no bunny , and you are going about it with your eyes open. Your also a very brave man , ha ha. I like some of your logic and some of your strategies , but I still would not do it lol.
Progress report from time to time please. Thanks.
Another interesting addition to "the saga". Keep up the interesting posts.
As for the quote below, I always heard that women reach their sexual prime at around 30 (ten years after guys). I think the "tired" comes when they get tired of you...
X Man
[QUOTE=Jambo]
I could expect 10 years of decent sex before I start getting the "I'm too tired".
.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Joking]There are village girls and village girls.
Naturally my friends wife (see post below) , with time , became no ordinary village girl.
Nowadays holds a regular job in London City. Commuting to work on the Underground, "mind the step, mind the step", looking like a million dollars. Confidence, acquired sophistication, and no dummy that one, ha ha.
It's not that my friend is a great coach/teacher. This woman is simply someone who is willing to make the effort to secure a future for herself and her kids. She's not hanging off a foreigner. If anything her husband is hanging off her.
I also have another friend from the same country. His wife is the one who is buying the family house in the UK, whilst he stays home and collects a disability pension (arthritis). All my friends are bums, ha ha. Not really, the friend next door is in the multi million dollar class.
I would never marry, but if I was that way inclined, I'd head for the villages, find pretty ones, check them out. With the right opportunity, coaching and environment, I say they can make the transition from the third to the first world.
But all this requires effort. And most of us take the convenient road and get hooked with someone more accessible.
To each his own. But I still reckon, wife hunters should investigate the raw talent lurking in the villages.
If nothing else, you'll have a lot of fun.
One of the top 'companion' girls of my life came from a squatter village, remote from towns. Cost me P800 to taxi from the wharf, along rough roads to her family's shack by the creek. She certainly had looks, and she certainly had sophistication, even though she lived in a little tin shack, alongside a polluted creek, in the jungle. But this same girl didn't want to carry water, ha ha. She wanted to lay on her back, legs apart, and she was good at it too. That's why she went to the city where I was staying in, looking for someone like me , a potential Sugar Daddy. Met her through a filipina I knew at the time. A trophy companion if ever there was one. Have to put her in the top 3/5 of my life. Will never forget her.
After I terminated the relationship (getting too serious for my liking) her mother, instead of berating me for dumping her daughter, wrote me a lovely letter, thanking me for "looking after" her daughter. Code language for not getting her pregnant I suppose.
I felt such a cad, treating such nice people that way. That is , screwing her daughter then moving on. No doubt my exit spoiled their dream of escaping poverty through cashed up 'Joe', me. I was impressed with the wording and thought Mumma had put behind the letter. Such manners and sophistication from a Mum who most probably never went to school.
Anyway, lots of the girls we foreigners meet at bars, on the Internet, wherever, migrated from the villages at some time in their life.
I rest my case. I am not getting married now or in the future. It's what rocks your boat that counts. I like the relative 'honesty' and earthiness of the unspoiled village girls, but I admit, they have to have a brain to make it work. Filipino 's in general have brains, they just don't have the same opportunities we do. But too many of them lack common sense, that's my beef with them. My friends wife certainly has common sense, brains and used them, once she got the opportunity (England). An exception no doubt. A 'gem'. They are out there , all you have to do is put the effort in to find them.
Of course during my upcoming trip I am not seeking village girls, common sense or brains for that matter. I am seeking sex from those devious but loveable city dwellers. So convenient. Just walk around, smile and voila, "another one bites the dust", ha ha.[/QUOTE]Hell this might be far off topic, but whatever. I work for a company that has hired only Philapinos for about the last 7 years. The numbers: 8 whites and about 55 Phils. My boss is a fat sack of useless shit (he's white) who just hires brothers, cousins, sisters, friends, and 1's who have just got off the boat. Ok, maybe it's true many young Canadians don't want to work, but I find some of these people useless and dumb. You can see it when another new one starts work, the attitude thing right away. Unless you're the boss, they don't want to listen to you, even if you have years of experience. They cry and whine if they don't get their own way. One of them keyed the night shift bosses truck cause I guess he/she held a grudge with him. Pis all over the toilet seat, clip their hairs in the sink, don't flush the toilet. The males are the worst. They really try to "flex" and intimidate the few whites. We always say "the philapinos create work for the whites". Just either being stupid or they really don't give a shit. Thanks for showing respect having the opportunity to better yourself. 250 thousand immigrants a year to Canada. I'm moving to Phils. They or most of them don't act like these useless fucks here. You can think whatever you want, I can get along with anyone, but people who don't care or play thier fukken roll, they can pis off.
I've read the message four times and each time I thought I wouldn't reply since I had nothing nice to say. Unfortunately, this sad commentary still resides at the top of the "chat rooms" thread. What a shame.
Chef "I can get along with anyone", you are a [blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue] and I would most happily [blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue] .
If you don't like the Phil people there, you surely will grow to dislike them elsewhere.
Maybe you were just having a bad day. If so, tell us about it.
X Man
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Cherry blossoms...
I've been satisfied with this site, but one thing that bothers me is that suddenly some women posts something like, "Oh, I found my man."...."no longer available". They even post the guys picture. Sorry, but that seems extremely unnatural to me. And even if it is Filipina showing off, did she ask her new "man" if it was okay to post his picture online at a site like Cherry blossom? I certainly wouldn't allow it.
Is this CB trying to promote their site?
I would thinks so...but who knows...
X Man
So I've become a "project", haha.
This girl I like is certainly high maintenance. If I can get her broken properly She will be very entertaining and a good ride. But she needs a man with a certain will and confidence--but not overbearing. I think she can appreciate a firm hand, and some slack in the lead line.
I haven't even dipped the wick yet so there's a lot that can be wrong.
I suppose I'll have to be the gentleman and not post her pic here.
You know 50 is now the new 30. I keep telling myself that every day when I work out.
She also loves having her picture taken, so if she dumps me I'll be sure I have enough material to start my own porn site. And I'll have a model release bwahahah!
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[blue]Gentlemen,
The purpose of this Forum is to provide for the exchange of information between Men on the subject of finding Women for Sex.
Let's get back to the subject.
Thank You,
Jackson[/blue]
Hmmm,
broken properly
good ride
certain will
firm hand
slack in the lead line
dip the wick
dumps me
Jambo, you sound like an intelligent guy, but you know all those idoms are going to go right over her head (another idiom).
X Man
[QUOTE=Jambo]So I've become a "project", haha.
This girl I like is certainly high maintenance. If I can get her broken properly She will be very entertaining and a good ride. But she needs a man with a certain will and confidence--but not overbearing. I think she can appreciate a firm hand, and some slack in the lead line.
I haven't even dipped the wick yet so there's a lot that can be wrong.
I suppose I'll have to be the gentleman and not post her pic here.
You know 50 is now the new 30. I keep telling myself that every day when I work out.
She also loves having her picture taken, so if she dumps me I'll be sure I have enough material to start my own porn site. And I'll have a model release bwahahah![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=X Man]Cherry blossoms...
....
Is this CB trying to promote their site?
I would thinks so...but who knows...
X Man[/QUOTE]I cant say how I know this but Cherry Blossoms is totally legit, and the amount of pussy you can find there (and then meet and fuck for free) is un-be-leivable.
Take it for what its worth.
There was a question on the Manila thread as to why a woman on a "pay for" chat site would ask you to move to Yahoo Messenger. I've copied my answer here.
1st reply was: quicker loading and more reliable...(I add to this in point 3)
Maybe...
1) Ym is more permanent than the pay for sites. Usually the messenger ID is also a yahoo email address.
2) she has other friends on the pay for site, ym allows her to be invisible.
3) cam is more stable on the ym site.
4) She's already chatting on the ym site and moving you there is easier than bouncing back to a different web site with a different format.
5) the pay for site has strict rules....is quick to ban ladies who break the rules. This is expecially true with Cherry blossom.
6) etc...
*** And most Filipinos use Yahoo....it's probably more comfortable for them.....
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mofo Monger
Okay, I have to ask: I was on one of those Filipina lonely hearts website. You know the ones.
Anyways, I would get Instant Messenger all the time, but it seems like most wanted me to Yahoo Messenger them. Why?
Do they get a fee or something.
Anyone care to explain?
[QUOTE=X Man]There was a question on the Manila thread as to why a woman on a "pay for" chat site would ask you to move to Yahoo Messenger. I've copied my answer here.
1st reply was: quicker loading and more reliable...(I add to this in point 3)
Maybe.
1) Ym is more permanent than the pay for sites. Usually the messenger ID is also a yahoo email address.
2) she has other friends on the pay for site, ym allows her to be invisible.
3) cam is more stable on the ym site.
4) She's already chatting on the ym site and moving you there is easier than bouncing back to a different web site with a different format.
5) the pay for site has strict rules....is quick to ban ladies who break the rules. This is expecially true with Cherry blossom.
6) etc...
*** And most Filipinos use Yahoo....it's probably more comfortable for them.....
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mofo Monger
Okay, I have to ask: I was on one of those Filipina lonely hearts website. You know the ones.
Anyways, I would get Instant Messenger all the time, but it seems like most wanted me to Yahoo Messenger them. Why?
Do they get a fee or something.
Anyone care to explain?[/QUOTE]It has been my experience using the dating site that you will get inundated with pop-ups from other girls when you are chatting with one particular girl. I could not figure out a way to stop that from happening. So I would usually ask the girl to sign out of that site and go to Yahoo - sort of like asking a girl to go to a quiet corner of a bar to have a chat! Also I found if I had Yahoo IM up and one of these dating windows opened up it totally jammed my computer and I would have to shut the whole thing down and reboot. Perhaps it was an older version of windows or something
Just my .2c. I usually post on the USA version of this board but am traveling in a few weeks to Manila and Cebu.
Cheers,
Shogun
Thanks Shogun, I completely forgot about that. You don't tell us what site you use, but this is certainly the case with Cherry blossom. It's very annoying. I've even had some women who would just open the chat window again as soon as I hit the "busy" button. In Yahoo you can stay invisible, but not at CB.
Have fun in the Philippines. Let us know your scorecard with the online gals.
X Man
QUOTE=Shogun04]It has been my experience using the dating site that you will get inundated with pop-ups from other girls when you are chatting with one particular girl. I could not figure out a way to stop that from happening. So I would usually ask the girl to sign out of that site and go to Yahoo - sort of like asking a girl to go to a quiet corner of a bar to have a chat! Also I found if I had Yahoo IM up and one of these dating windows opened up it totally jammed my computer and I would have to shut the whole thing down and reboot. Perhaps it was an older version of windows or something
Just my .2c. I usually post on the USA version of this board but am traveling in a few weeks to Manila and Cebu.
Cheers,
Shogun[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Capitalized On]I cant say how I know this but Cherry Blossoms is totally legit, and the amount of pussy you can find there (and then meet and fuck for free) is un-be-leivable.
Take it for what its worth.[/QUOTE]
Agree with you
Am here briefly but deceided this time to try CBs (so started emails 2 weeks ago) and not go to the bars and very fruitful - as well as another avenue I explored last time which I why I stay in a different hotel now than normal as the ladies cannot be seen with guests.
Will post re CB meetings and 'free fucks' later
i am new to this site but have been mongering all over asia for two decades and only recently (last 4 months) got onto the dating and cam sites to seek out the "non pro" ladies and see if it would be fruitful.
well, i have to agree with capitalized on, i've had some serious success in this arena. and there is one benefit to chatting with cam girls that i haven't seen anyone mention here yet (and please forgive me if i overlooked it while reading these threads) and that is you get to check out all their assets before meeting them.
but for this you need to have a bit of game and a smidge of a strategy: have two accounts at a cam site. that way when you see a really cute girl that you'the like to meet in person, just talk to her and get to where you can start chatting to her on ym. throw a wide net over the cuties and take your time, they get plenty of verbal abuse and will respond nicely to someone with manners. your looks and age will be of much less importance to them if you are polite and show real feelings. then. "try before you buy". no one wants to meet up with some girl in person and find out she's not at all what you expected from her photos. so. i go in to the cam site under a second account and take them into their private room for some cybersex. yes, it will cost a little, but. it saves way more in time and frustration. who here wouldn't like to get a nice peek under those panties and also an idea if she's a dead fish, beginner or freak in the bedroom? you can tell a lot of that from how they act when you have them do cybersex for you.
and since you never ask them to get naked under your "polite" persona you keep your "nice guy" image intact for when you meet in person.
my success rate is comparable to others i've seen here in that it's about 50% but that 50% has in it some of the best female companionship i've had in my life. i've yet to be disappointed, and several times been pleasantly surprised when seeing them in person. and i know the total cost is less than when i was out every night in p4p situations.
as for the cb girls, i think that anyone that wants to find a gem there better look at it like any sales guy does with cold calls: make 50 cold inquiries to find 10 real possibilities that result in one or two really good connections. i sent out almost 100 initial emails to girls there the first month and was down to about 5 (i am very picky on the looks issues) by the second email or chat but found that out of those five all were decent possibilities and i have as yet only met up with two but those two have proved to be everything i could have imagined. if a guy is truly looking for a wife, cb is a good place to find one or even just hone your skills first. as in any situation involving women, basic manners and a little patience go a long way. but never waste time on one who seems "off" in any way. there are just too many new ones coming online every day that you can start with fresh.
[quote=capitalized on]i cant say how i know this but cherry blossoms is totally legit, and the amount of pussy you can find there (and then meet and fuck for free) is un-be-leivable.
take it for what its worth.[/quote][size=-2][b][u]editor's note[/u]:[/b] [blue]i certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the reports of distinction thread. please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?]click here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size]
i am new to this site but have been mongering all over asia for two decades and only recently (last 4 months) got onto the dating and cam sites to seek out the "non pro" ladies and see if it would be fruitful.
well, i have to agree with capitalized on, i've had some serious success in this arena. and there is one benefit to chatting with cam girls that i haven't seen anyone mention here yet (and please forgive me if i overlooked it while reading these threads) and that is you get to check out all their assets before meeting them.
but for this you need to have a bit of game and a smidge of a strategy: have two accounts at a cam site. that way when you see a really cute girl that you'the like to meet in person, just talk to her and get to where you can start chatting to her on ym. throw a wide net over the cuties and take your time, they get plenty of verbal abuse and will respond nicely to someone with manners. your looks and age will be of much less importance to them if you are polite and show real feelings. then. "try before you buy". no one wants to meet up with some girl in person and find out she's not at all what you expected from her photos. so. i go in to the cam site under a second account and take them into their private room for some cybersex. yes, it will cost a little, but. it saves way more in time and frustration. who here wouldn't like to get a nice peek under those panties and also an idea if she's a dead fish, beginner or freak in the bedroom? you can tell a lot of that from how they act when you have them do cybersex for you.
and since you never ask them to get naked under your "polite" persona you keep your "nice guy" image intact for when you meet in person.
my success rate is comparable to others i've seen here in that it's about 50% but that 50% has in it some of the best female companionship i've had in my life. i've yet to be disappointed, and several times been pleasantly surprised when seeing them in person. and i know the total cost is less than when i was out every night in p4p situations.
as for the cb girls, i think that anyone that wants to find a gem there better look at it like any sales guy does with cold calls: make 50 cold inquiries to find 10 real possibilities that result in one or two really good connections. i sent out almost 100 initial emails to girls there the first month and was down to about 5 (i am very picky on the looks issues) by the second email or chat but found that out of those five all were decent possibilities and i have as yet only met up with two but those two have proved to be everything i could have imagined. if a guy is truly looking for a wife, cb is a good place to find one or even just hone your skills first. as in any situation involving women, basic manners and a little patience go a long way. but never waste time on one who seems "off" in any way. there are just too many new ones coming online every day that you can start with fresh.
[quote=capitalized on]i cant say how i know this but cherry blossoms is totally legit, and the amount of pussy you can find there (and then meet and fuck for free) is un-be-leivable.
take it for what its worth.[/quote][size=-2][b][u]editor's note[/u]:[/b] [blue]i certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the reports of distinction thread. please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?]click here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size]
i would add though... on some of those sites these girls can see your i.p. address. i have actually been to one of these studios and they do know when someone is "sneaking around" if you are to do this you want to mask your i.p. with a program.
i actually did a low tech way by using a free juno dial upm account. that gives you a different i.p. address when you log in.
[quote=booboo2]i am new to this site but have been mongering all over asia for two decades and only recently (last 4 months) got onto the dating and cam sites to seek out the "non pro" ladies and see if it would be fruitful.
well, i have to agree with capitalized on, i've had some serious success in this arena. and there is one benefit to chatting with cam girls that i haven't seen anyone mention here yet (and please forgive me if i overlooked it while reading these threads) and that is you get to check out all their assets before meeting them.
but for this you need to have a bit of game and a smidge of a strategy: have two accounts at a cam site. that way when you see a really cute girl that you'the like to meet in person, just talk to her and get to where you can start chatting to her on ym. throw a wide net over the cuties and take your time, they get plenty of verbal abuse and will respond nicely to someone with manners. your looks and age will be of much less importance to them if you are polite and show real feelings. then. "try before you buy". no one wants to meet up with some girl in person and find out she's not at all what you expected from her photos. so. i go in to the cam site under a second account and take them into their private room for some cybersex. yes, it will cost a little, but. it saves way more in time and frustration. who here wouldn't like to get a nice peek under those panties and also an idea if she's a dead fish, beginner or freak in the bedroom? you can tell a lot of that from how they act when you have them do cybersex for you.
and since you never ask them to get naked under your "polite" persona you keep your "nice guy" image intact for when you meet in person.
my success rate is comparable to others i've seen here in that it's about 50% but that 50% has in it some of the best female companionship i've had in my life. i've yet to be disappointed, and several times been pleasantly surprised when seeing them in person. and i know the total cost is less than when i was out every night in p4p situations.
as for the cb girls, i think that anyone that wants to find a gem there better look at it like any sales guy does with cold calls: make 50 cold inquiries to find 10 real possibilities that result in one or two really good connections. i sent out almost 100 initial emails to girls there the first month and was down to about 5 (i am very picky on the looks issues) by the second email or chat but found that out of those five all were decent possibilities and i have as yet only met up with two but those two have proved to be everything i could have imagined. if a guy is truly looking for a wife, cb is a good place to find one or even just hone your skills first. as in any situation involving women, basic manners and a little patience go a long way. but never waste time on one who seems "off" in any way. there are just too many new ones coming online every day that you can start with fresh.
[size=-2][b][u]editor's note[/u]:[/b] [blue]i certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the reports of distinction thread. please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?]click here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size][/quote]
Hi to all,
on my last trip ( last month) I met 4 chatgurls I use to know from those paid chatsite.
One I invite with her fren for dinner and drinks, she left early , prmosed me to com eback but just ask if i can help her. I didnt txt her any more...
Then i met anoher hottie with her sister, we went out and next day before she went back to batangas her workin place she visit me alone :D and showd me how much she liked me. I heard now she quit work and getin married to one of the members there :D. regards to the guy, she is a hot gurl :D
next day I met Ashley, also cam model, she stayed over night with me and her friend (no bum2) ...just cuddling and kissing...she promised to come back to me alone. I gave her my old cp, she was very happy. Gona met her again nexttime for more action.
Number four was the best, she is now my gf or lets say i met her again nexttime IM around. SHe also went to y hotel with her friend and I thought fxxk no bum2 again, but what a suprise, we started french kissing in the night and while her friend sleep with noise she undress herself... we went to the bathroom and had a session under the shower..thanks to pacific breeze they have great big showers :)
She stayed with me all the time and next day her friend leaves and she literally fxxd me to death (allmost) I took her to sm clark and bough her some panty, shorts and shirts..lotion etc..there was never any money involved, However I gave her 2k when I left and offerd her to work for me :D
Now that was really the first time I met a true honest and loving gurl on the net who gave evrything to me and was horny as hell. I think you shouldnt give up looking, one day its be ur lucky day.
Im gone post some pics from them in fotosection
Happy hunting
Blink
Thanks for the report Blink. Which chat site do you use?
You mentioned Pacific Breeze, so can I assume you met all four in Angeles City? Were any of the sex workers?
One chat girl I did was a waitress at Orchid - so pretty sure she was a regular girl. I did her at the first meeting - coincidentally at Pac Breeze. She later sent one of those messages that says, "OMG, I can't believe I did that."
I felt a bit bad cause I never met her again. Just too much going on in AC.
X Man
[QUOTE=Blink157]Hi to all,
on my last trip ( last month) I met 4 chatgurls I use to know from those paid chatsite.
One I invite with her fren for dinner and drinks, she left early , prmosed me to com eback but just ask if i can help her. I didnt txt her any more...
Then i met anoher hottie with her sister, we went out and next day before she went back to batangas her workin place she visit me alone :D and showd me how much she liked me. I heard now she quit work and getin married to one of the members there :D. regards to the guy, she is a hot gurl :D
next day I met Ashley, also cam model, she stayed over night with me and her friend (no bum2) ...just cuddling and kissing...she promised to come back to me alone. I gave her my old cp, she was very happy. Gona met her again nexttime for more action.
Number four was the best, she is now my gf or lets say i met her again nexttime IM around. SHe also went to y hotel with her friend and I thought fxxk no bum2 again, but what a suprise, we started french kissing in the night and while her friend sleep with noise she undress herself... we went to the bathroom and had a session under the shower..thanks to pacific breeze they have great big showers :)
She stayed with me all the time and next day her friend leaves and she literally fxxd me to death (allmost) I took her to sm clark and bough her some panty, shorts and shirts..lotion etc..there was never any money involved, However I gave her 2k when I left and offerd her to work for me :D
Now that was really the first time I met a true honest and loving gurl on the net who gave evrything to me and was horny as hell. I think you shouldnt give up looking, one day its be ur lucky day.
Im gone post some pics from them in fotosection
Happy hunting
Blink[/QUOTE]
From Cherry blossom:
im just simple ordinary girl who wishes to meet freinds from different cultures, i dont want to jump into a relationship immmediately it always good to know the person well before jumping into a relationship.....
Emmalyn, from Bislig, now in Davao is super fine. I had a date with her, but nothing happened thanks to her dykish friend. Anyway, here is our latest chat:
Show Recent Messages (F3)
You currently appear offline to Emmalyn camazura.
SNIP
Emmalyn camazura: im fine
Emmalyn camazura: in davao
Emmalyn camazura: why??
x: I'll be in davao in December.
x: Are you in school or working?
Emmalyn camazura: school
Emmalyn camazura: ok
x: Oh, that's good.
Emmalyn camazura: yeah
x: What are you studying?
Emmalyn camazura: commerce
Emmalyn camazura: why??
Emmalyn camazura: how about my X?
x: Work is busy. I also studied business in uni.
Emmalyn camazura: ok
Emmalyn camazura: can i ask favor to you??
x: sure.
Emmalyn camazura: i think this is my first time i ask favor to you
Emmalyn camazura: right??
x: I suppose.
x: What is your phone number?
Emmalyn camazura: can i ask favor to you.....i need to pay for my tuttion fee try to help me just a little
x: Hmmm, give me the name of the school. I'll send it directly to the school.
Emmalyn camazura: how??
Emmalyn camazura: it can be??
x: Anyway, send me the info later. I have to go to work now.
x: Take care,
Emmalyn camazura: X pls
[QUOTE=X Man]Thanks for the report Blink. Which chat site do you use?
You mentioned Pacific Breeze, so can I assume you met all four in Angeles City? Were any of the sex workers?
One chat girl I did was a waitress at Orchid - so pretty sure she was a regular girl. I did her at the first meeting - coincidentally at Pac Breeze. She later sent one of those messages that says, "OMG, I can't believe I did that."
I felt a bit bad cause I never met her again. Just too much going on in AC.
X Man[/QUOTE]
hi,
they from acm (asiancammodels).....they all in sex LOL..but I guess not workin bar before...
Yes , all from ac..the BS place and Im suprised at least one didnt bs me when meeting first time...
happy punting
Blink
BS is kind of a cultural thing. No reason to resist it unless it's obviously doing you some harm. I've been trying to tell guys here not to let on when the scam ladies do their "snake charm", but I'm pretty sure I'm getting ignored.
I've used the pay for chat sites (not sex sites) to meet women all the way from AC to Manila to Cebu / Dumaguete / and various locations in Mindanao. Most cased I've met some interesting ladies. Gotten tours of the city and sometimes far beyond. I've had pretty good luck getting intimate too, but who know, maybe I should get a life.
X Man
[QUOTE=Blink157]hi,
they from acm (asiancammodels).....they all in sex LOL..but I guess not workin bar before...
Yes , all from ac..the BS place and Im suprised at least one didnt bs me when meeting first time...
happy punting
Blink[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=X Man]Cherry blossoms...
I've been satisfied with this site, but one thing that bothers me is that suddenly some women posts something like, "Oh, I found my man."...."no longer available". They even post the guys picture.
Is this CB trying to promote their site?
I would thinks so...but who knows...
X Man[/QUOTE]
Some time ago I wanted to get rid of scammers on my profile and chaged my status to >engaged< with the add on that I found my gal
A day later I got a request from CB on my mail to tell the story how I found that girl on CB ..and how it goes on. They wanted to put it on their sucess page...
Marketing
When I first asked for the "chat room/ pen pals" thread I envisaged guys sharing particular info about online ladies that show promise. As it turns out it makes more sense to share contact info thru pm rather than on the board.
Neverthless, I notice several people here are using Cherry blossom, so let's see if I can get some of you guys to share notes. (BTW, I don't think you need to be a paying member in order to view the profiles of the ladies)
Reference number c00661755. In the search function you only need to type in the last six digits: 661755
661755
Raz 20 in Cebu, petite, lucious lips which belong you know where. Right away talking about her financial problems. I asked for her contact info, so let's see what happenns
C00861234
Ritzel 18 in davao. I usually don't contact them this young, but the photo made me suspect she's a cam girl. I sent her a message. She didn't respond to anything I had written, but asked me to email her and gave her address. In the email address are the numbers 28. Is that her real age?
[QUOTE=X Man]When I first asked for the "chat room/ pen pals" thread I envisaged guys sharing particular info about online ladies that show promise. As it turns out it makes more sense to share contact info thru pm rather than on the board.
Neverthless, I notice several people here are using Cherry blossom, so let's see if I can get some of you guys to share notes. (BTW, I don't think you need to be a paying member in order to view the profiles of the ladies)
Reference number c00661755. In the search function you only need to type in the last six digits: 661755
661755
Raz 20 in Cebu, petite, lucious lips which belong you know where. Right away talking about her financial problems. I asked for her contact info, so let's see what happenns
C00861234
Ritzel 18 in davao. I usually don't contact them this young, but the photo made me suspect she's a cam girl. I sent her a message. She didn't respond to anything I had written, but asked me to email her and gave her address. In the email address are the numbers 28. Is that her real age?[/QUOTE]
Xman
I use CB also at times, many will chat about cash straight away, some will show their bodies happily, others with encouragement. Some are cam girls - met a couple when last in Manila and shagged them, no hassles great fun and a nice dinner was all that is required.
Some are under 18 depsite the profile (I also found this out when in Manila :()
And some are ladyboys so be very careful....:(:(
Ritzel? Maybe the 28 is her birthday date as some give false info on CB (what a surprise) but yes I agree she looks older.
Raz - yes nice lips but she is after cash immediately (she could have waited for the second time!). Many CB girls the same don't blame them maybe they see us an ATM machine (well to some)
Will PM a few you can look at and see what you think
But for mongers out there who look on CB watch out for Katrina based Manila as she is definitely a lady boy (C00825592)
Also Mierven maybe (C00860433) dont be fooled by the picture as I have seen her on cam , no make up v butch (and not for me)
well, little miss ritzel has emailed me and confirmed that she's not 18. she says that she is one year less than that. she's cute, i'll give her that, but as wr notes, she looks older. my guess is that she's petite and uses a [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url] persona as her web cam "personality".
i have a travel agent friend in mla who is flat-chested, very cute if you don't mind skin and bones, 39kilos and could probably become [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url] . she's 27.
x
[quote=wicked roger]xman
i use cb also at times, many will chat about cash straight away, some will show their bodies happily, others with encouragement. some are cam girls - met a couple when last in manila and shagged them, no hassles great fun and a nice dinner was all that is required.
some are under 18 depsite the profile (i also found this out when in manila :()
and some are ladyboys so be very careful....:(:(
ritzel? maybe the 28 is her birthday date as some give false info on cb (what a surprise) but yes i agree she looks older.
raz - yes nice lips but she is after cash immediately (she could have waited for the second time!). many cb girls the same don't blame them maybe they see us an atm machine (well to some)
will pm a few you can look at and see what you think
but for mongers out there who look on cb watch out for katrina based manila as she is definitely a lady boy (c00825592)
also mierven maybe (c00860433) dont be fooled by the picture as i have seen her on cam , no make up v butch (and not for me)[/quote]
This one I chatted with ended up being someone much older and offering sex shows when we switched to Yahoo.
C00820822
This one must be a split personality I haven't chatted with her but she has 2 id's with the exact same photo in the 2nd of 3 pics in each id.
C00340828 birthdate 7/26/1984 23 years
C00531909 birthdate 7/26/1983 24 years
Same name and information in each
Some of these ladies on CB look familar after a while I think they use the same photos for different id's when I can be bothered I might research it just keep a list of photos with ids and compare them.
I've met a few who have admitted being under 18, I remember a sweet innocent thing who panicked when I mentioned I was coming to her town and could meet her, suddenly she is saying she has to ask her parents and that she is only young and had to go. Kids playing with the computers?
[QUOTE=Bilbo Baggins]This one I chatted with ended up being someone much older and offering sex shows when we switched to Yahoo.
C00820822
This one must be a split personality I haven't chatted with her but she has 2 id's with the exact same photo in the 2nd of 3 pics in each id.
C00340828 birthdate 7/26/1984 23 years
C00531909 birthdate 7/26/1983 24 years
Same name and information in each
Some of these ladies on CB look familar after a while I think they use the same photos for different id's when I can be bothered I might research it just keep a list of photos with ids and compare them.
I've met a few who have admitted being under 18, I remember a sweet innocent thing who panicked when I mentioned I was coming to her town and could meet her, suddenly she is saying she has to ask her parents and that she is only young and had to go. Kids playing with the computers?[/QUOTE]
BB
The first did same to me. Many CB girls will if you are happy to help them with school feee, medicines for grandama.......
Some, very few,, will do it for free as kinky and liberated (and maybe an eye to the long term but I doubt). These are the ones I like as when I get to Manila they are keen to meet and for a nice dinner etc you normally get a great time.
But as I said before, I cam with them first as some are ladyboys...
Thanks BB,
Ms. 820822 certainly looks cute and legit in her profile. Thanks for the info. Did you ask her for a face to face meeting? There was one webcam girl in Manila that I met online. I suggested a meeting. She didn't refuse, but made it clear there would be no easy sex. I appreciated her honesty, and never did meet her (but not for that reason).
As for the other lady you mention, most of the info on the two profiles is the same, so it doesn't seem that she's trying to deceive. It's free to have a profile, but guys have to pay to make any contacts.
One thing about CB, when I was paying, I put my contact info (I didn't use the "at" symbol, misspelled yafoo) in my profile. It's against the rules, but nothing was said. When my pay period expired, my profile continued to have my fudged contact info for several months. Then, one day I updated a few things. Boom, they immediately turned off my profile.
So, I guess that's a way to trick the system, but it really isn't worth the effort. Women continued to ask me to chat at CB (non paying male members can't chat, but that doesn't stop women from asking you to chat). Only one woman was bright enough to figure out that yafoo meant yahoo, and she was not my type.
Oh, and a lot of women don't realize that guys are paying for the service.
X
[QUOTE=Bilbo Baggins]This one I chatted with ended up being someone much older and offering sex shows when we switched to Yahoo.
C00820822
This one must be a split personality I haven't chatted with her but she has 2 id's with the exact same photo in the 2nd of 3 pics in each id.
C00340828 birthdate 7/26/1984 23 years
C00531909 birthdate 7/26/1983 24 years
Same name and information in each
Some of these ladies on CB look familar after a while I think they use the same photos for different id's when I can be bothered I might research it just keep a list of photos with ids and compare them.
I've met a few who have admitted being under 18, I remember a sweet innocent thing who panicked when I mentioned I was coming to her town and could meet her, suddenly she is saying she has to ask her parents and that she is only young and had to go. Kids playing with the computers?[/QUOTE]
C00636640
Look at the third picture in this profile. What do those stuffed dolls tell you. Well, it tells me webcam girl. I met this girl in AC. Right away she wanted me to buy her something at the mall. She was cuter than the pictures indicate, but I detected a hard edge. At some point I confirmed that she had worked as a webcam girl.
Eventually we got back to my room. We kissed and I felt her up a bit. She suggested she needed money for her little brother's birthday party the next week. How much? 4000. I offerred 1000. She said, "I'm not a bar girl." Now, I took offense at that since I rather like the bar girls. I walked her down to the lobby and said goodbye.
X
681016 Stunning. For many months she's said she's not available, but she changed the photos just last week. The old photos were also very nice.
C00118018 She might be in Subic. She agreed to meet, but backed out at the last minute. That bikini photo is at least two years old.
X
X Man, that girl in the blue dress was a winner for me too.
[QUOTE=X Man]Thanks BB,
Ms. 820822 certainly looks cute and legit in her profile. Thanks for the info. Did you ask her for a face to face meeting? [/QUOTE]No X Man I didn't get to chat with the girl in the pictures she ended up being another older woman in a different province from the one stated who when we went to Yahoo offered a sex show for payment it was very professional and she was honest about being someone different from the beginning in the CB chat. It felt like a honey lure to get guys in to her yahoo cam business.
I have chatted to a few "older" ladies who were different from the stated ID they were honest about it. One said she was setting up the account for her young niece and decided to chat with me herself, 53 was a bit too old for my liking.
[QUOTE=X Man]Oh, and a lot of women don't realize that guys are paying for the service.
X[/QUOTE]Yes I was chatting with a girl who told me her American "chat friend" disappeared suddenly and I suggested his subscription probably ran out she was surprised at the costs I quoted her.
A lot of pretty girls in CB come from Zamboanga but I have had a few weird ones I have chatted with from there one was pretty but really psychotic I noticed admin in CB has deleted her.
530448 This one was prettier in the photos she sent me via email than her profile pics and I saw her on cam and she was the same person. She would be high maintenance imo, suggested she could chat with me daily if she had her own computer and cam and another time wanted a camera so she could take sexy photos for me.
She lives in Zamboanga City and offered to fly to any place I was going to stay so long as I paid the return fare of her and her girlfriend. We stopped chatting after I got tired of her complaining about starving and having no food to eat she really got angry when I didn't believe her. Very manipulative with the sob story of being a starving student I guess its a more plausible story than sick relatives or carabou.
I have decided to only chat with ladies from places I intend to visit but to be honest for all the sincere ladies I have met the "others" put me right off chat dating sites. If you put in your profile you are just looking for ladies to date, like I have, while in the Philippines you will find the ones you want plus all the others who don't read your profile and are looking for a husband.
One girl tonight told me she was looking for a man to teach her how to have good sex and get married to if possible. I guess some will take whatever foreigener they can get.
Guys
Watch out for this one, she will offer and promise a lot ....but...she is a ladyboy
C00851601
She works with Katrina (see earlier FR) as when I went to cam with Katrina she was there also and introduced herself and told me her name etc, and then I twigged very early, asked the questions and they did not deny.
Thats why I cam first and ask direct questions and some may be offfended but then move to the next one
[QUOTE=Bilbo Baggins]
A lot of pretty girls in CB come from Zamboanga but I have had a few weird ones I have chatted with from there one was pretty but really psychotic I noticed admin in CB has deleted her.
530448 This one was prettier in the photos she sent me via email than her profile pics and I saw her on cam and she was the same person. She would be high maintenance imo, suggested she could chat with me daily if she had her own computer and cam and another time wanted a camera so she could take sexy photos for me.
She lives in Zamboanga City and offered to fly to any place I was going to stay so long as I paid the return fare of her and her girlfriend. We stopped chatting after I got tired of her complaining about starving and having no food to eat she really got angry when I didn't believe her. Very manipulative with the sob story of being a starving student I guess its a more plausible story than sick relatives or carabou.
One girl tonight told me she was looking for a man to teach her how to have good sex and get married to if possible. I guess some will take whatever foreigener they can get.[/QUOTE]
BB
Many have sob stories and in chat with CB girls I can just about spot the lead in to the sob story (I can now not at first). I ask them how they are doing with the CB search and they tend to ask same
I reply that 99% of girls aask for money within 10 minutes of chat so I stop chat because how can I send cash if I cannot meet them first....
That tends to put them on notice. Works a treat as you can move to the next one and eventually you a few gems and (if your flavour) some cherries as well.
Basically you are right we are seen as an ATM machine to some, pormises etc but beware. If you ever do a ticket I would PTA so she cannot cash it etc. Done that before (not CB etc) and works a treat as if she does not take it I get cash back no loss to pocket :)
A few more bits of information on some more CB girls to watch out for and research findings :)
C00819592 Jean
Was due to meet in Manila but she backed out at very last minute. Works Makati and and third picture is bar.....when she was asking too many questions I asked which bar she worked in, she lost interest.
C00797763 Essan
Cute body but always sad as she has a permanent sob story. Would go naked though on cam and had problems ranaging from school fees to mother medicine to PC needsd fixing.
C00860433 Mierven
As I said earlier, my guess is ladyboy as I asked for cam and what I saw was not nice!! And since then she/he has not bothered me....
C00852869 Peachy
Older (30) and not really my age group. but looked OK on teh picttures so against my better judgement.... Has problems with PC and cam (cant seem to be able to fix the 2 togther and needs to plug it into the PC)....nice to chat says she 30 year old cherry willing to give to right expat - well not me !
C00837473 Jeomirli
Met her OK,works bar in Makati. Open and honest about what she wants (sex, in return for favours). If your type go for it, not mine
C00530898 Kerin
Nice CB pictures but on cam the 3 kids she has had (plus fourth she aborted) show on her face and body. Nice person all the same but not for me and I suspect for very few ISG mongers who want a good straight forward shag
C00853472 Jangrace
Will give you her cherry if you help her through college, honest and direct which I like but I can pay far less and get a cute 19 year old in Makati (or my freebie 20 year waitress).
C00832398 Chersie
IMHO a crazy a couple of chats and she was wild (not sexually I mean :()
C00813062 Charin
Nice picture, chatted etc but she became very mercenary very quickly nd then forgot who I was so consigned her to the bin as can get cute 18 year old in AC, EDSA or Makati.
C00832886 Glenda Joy
Cute have chatted, very angry lady for one so young hard to control the chat and I dropped her despite her being nice and never asking for cash
C00792619 Angel
Cute nice but again we are an ATM machine and she is not subtle at all about it offered sex on YM cam etc but by this time I was bored with the same lines
At least with an ACM girl you know where you stand - they can be hard etc but at least you know and can decide quickly. As X Man did
C00796295
Profile says Pagadian, but she's currently in Manila. All photos seem to be taken in a hotel bathroom.
If I planned to be in Manila in the next few months I WOULD NOT be sharing this. Good luck gents.
*** some negativity follows - click away if you must...
To the guy who asked me if CB is worth a subscription...how can I answer that without knowing anything about you or what you're looking for. If you were my dufus, racist brother who is living a life of celibacy, I'd say no. If you don't want to get on an airplane and you don't like brown/black people, there is nothing I can recommend for you...although a self inflicted life ending injury wouldn't be such a bad thing.
I'm getting just a bit bored with the PM's I get. Should I go to the Philippines / Is it safe? / Can you introduce me to a girl? / Can a brother do well there? / Should I join Cb?
But, I will answer the question. NO, don't join CB. Join one of the other sites and then share the info with us. There is already plenty of info about CB here. In fact, since it is the most popular site, one of the lesser known sites might provide more potential trysts/ romances, and fewer of the scheming that sometimes happens at cb.
X Man
Guy named King Kong recently put up some good posts in the Davao thread. In one of them he shares a rather interesting story of a chat friend he met.
In the Dragonslayer thread, DS sometimes mentions that he used FilipinaHeart. That thread looks dead, but if you click through you'll find it is active and recently there have been some good posts.
X Man
But, I will answer the question. NO, don't join CB. Join one of the other sites and then share the info with us. There is already plenty of info about CB here. In fact, since it is the most popular site, one of the lesser known sites might provide more potential trysts/ romances, and fewer of the scheming that sometimes happens at cb.
Ok guys here is a new site that is free to e-mail the girls! about 50 filipinos on here ! i will be meeting one in manila next month, have here number and she knows and understands what i want. no metion of money except she is a studant all asked for was the usual presents ie chocolates, lotion, perfume. total cost of these things here in australia will be $10.00 for me. hey we have nock off perfumes here too lol.
smutvibes.com
here is the link
[url]http://www.smutvibes.com/?page=home[/url]
Date in asia is free and site I use often and have had success.
Alright, I know I'm going to get flamed to death, but here goes nothing. Anyway, I'm headed to Phils for my first trip in Jan. '08 (been to LOS many times). Is it worth trying to hook up with girls you meet on FH? Or do you have to go through the mating ritual before you have a chance to bed them? Obviously, I'm headed there to get laid, and I don't want to waste my time on FH girls if that's not going to happen. All constructive advice would be greatly appreciated.
Peace
[QUOTE=Longhorn2000]Alright, I know I'm going to get flamed to death, but here goes nothing. Anyway, I'm headed to Phils for my first trip in Jan. '08 (been to LOS many times). Is it worth trying to hook up with girls you meet on FH? Or do you have to go through the mating ritual before you have a chance to bed them? Obviously, I'm headed there to get laid, and I don't want to waste my time on FH girls if that's not going to happen. All constructive advice would be greatly appreciated.
Peace[/QUOTE]
LH
Very much hit and miss. The smutvide link is explicit so easy I would think. FH and CB very hit and miss. See earlier FRs in Manila and Makati as well.
If you have time to invest and cam with them and try all the tricks yes, you will get laid but make sure the rules are known in advance. Then you may be successful
I have a mix of CB girls, previous ladies from previous visits and bar fine new ones. I like variety :)
But if want a definite shag go bar fine someone...
Excuse me, but why on earth does anyone need to go to all the trouble of making contact on the Internet (unless you are looking for a bride, and even then you're in trouble!) to get laid in the Phils????
Forget it, and for that matter forget about barfines. Head for LA Cafe, Amazonia (3d choice) or G-Point (first choice) and walk out in 5 minutes with a willing partner.
Hmm, you've been to LOS many times, yet you have only 4 total posts? Against my better judgement, I'll respond...especially since I've gotten similar questions to my pm.
I'm 40ish, slimmer than the average American (not saying much, I know), bald and bearded, but somehow still accused of being "guapo". I've had 40% success rate within the first 24 hours. The sample is not huge, but big enough. And a few of the targets were quickly dropped without any serious attempt for varous reasons.
Wicked Roger advice is good, but if your regular girl disappoints and goes home at 10pm, there's still time for p4p. My strategy is different than WR, I don't try to get any guarantees beforehand. I do some online testing, some light sexual jokes, to guage the reaction. WHen I meet them I just try to have fun and if there is any chemistry I'll start touch testing. Some people say try to avoid allowing chaperones, but I find that counter-productive. Read King Kong's recent post in the Davao thread. He describes both what can go wrong and right - and in his case all in one evening.
And, like KK, I don't make any promises and create any false hopes. It's really not necessary.
What cities are you planning to go to and how long will you stay?
X Man
[QUOTE=Longhorn2000]Alright, I know I'm going to get flamed to death, but here goes nothing. Anyway, I'm headed to Phils for my first trip in Jan. '08 (been to LOS many times). Is it worth trying to hook up with girls you meet on FH? Or do you have to go through the mating ritual before you have a chance to bed them? Obviously, I'm headed there to get laid, and I don't want to waste my time on FH girls if that's not going to happen. All constructive advice would be greatly appreciated.
Peace[/QUOTE]
There are a lot of reasons, but considering your post I have to wonder why "on earth" you're even reading anything on this thread.
1) Your strategy requires staying in Manila - big, crowded, somewhat dangerous, dirty, hot, overpriced, polluted, etc...
2) I like to try different things, and since I've been to Mnl, AC, Cebu multiple times, I want to explore new areas. Having friends already arranged in those new areas is nice.
3) a bride isn't out of the question for me...although highly unlikely.
4) as I said in a previous post, it isn't always a "lot of trouble". Not only have I gotten lucky, sometimes within the first six hours, but also been taken to remote mountain villages, gone hiking to a 100 foot waterfall, and otherwise been able to explore places more quickly and more cheaply because I had a tour guide/ girlfriend accompany me.
Nevertheless, my fees for chat service could pay for quite a few bar fines. If you're going to Philippines for the first time, you'd probably be better off hitting the main spots and doing p4p.
[QUOTE=Shy Dude]Excuse me, but why on earth does anyone need to go to all the trouble of making contact on the Internet (unless you are looking for a bride, and even then you're in trouble!) to get laid in the Phils????
Forget it, and for that matter forget about barfines. Head for LA Cafe, Amazonia (3d choice) or G-Point (first choice) and walk out in 5 minutes with a willing partner.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Shy Dude]Excuse me, but why on earth does anyone need to go to all the trouble of making contact on the Internet (unless you are looking for a bride, and even then you're in trouble!) to get laid in the Phils????
Forget it, and for that matter forget about barfines. Head for LA Cafe, Amazonia (3d choice) or G-Point (first choice) and walk out in 5 minutes with a willing partner.[/QUOTE]After living here for the last seven months, the reason I chat on-line and meet girls in the mall, is because I like the chase. I still go to the bar and BF sometimes, but there is nothing like chatting with a girl for a month, have her show up at your hotel and within one hour she is rocking your world, not because I paid her, because she wants too.
I met this girl on Date in Asia and she told me what she wanted and she did exactly what she said. True GFE and true to her word, she wants a relationship, but said that she understood that I wanted a friend. She still emails me and texts me, but no drama and wants to come back to my room NOW.
Thanks for the advice guys. Xman, I used to go under the handle Macauman, but somehow I was unable to use it again when I registered. That's why I have such few posts. I'm also 40ish Xman, and in fairly decent shape. Perhaps balding, but not bald. In any event, I'll webcam whenever I'm asked, and so far, none of the FH sweeties have recoiled in horror or ceased contact with me after they've laid eyes on my ugly mug.
Anyway, I only have 15 days, so I'm planning on splitting my time between Manila and Angeles (or possibly Cebu). Or maybe I'll stay in Manila the whole time. Any other suggestions? I'm rebounding hard from a Filipina who tore my heart out of my chest with her bare hands here in the States after 9 months of absolute sexual bliss. I suddenly became a piece of shit after I declined her request to "loan" her $10, 000. She's a dead ringer for Eva Longoria (I'm not joking), and I'm hoping to find a replacement, at least for a couple of weeks, so I can get her out of my system once and for all. Hence, a trip to the Phils instead of LOS.
Thanks again!
[QUOTE=Robbaf]I met this girl on Date in Asia and she told me what she wanted and she did exactly what she said. True GFE and true to her word, she wants a relationship, but said that she understood that I wanted a friend. She still emails me and texts me, but no drama and wants to come back to my room NOW.[/QUOTE]Hi Robbaf,
Does it mean you have more pictures of this beautifull girl?
Lots of guys that go on chat sites like CB and FH only go on their to either find cherry girls or girls to fuck. Many of the girls on some of the sites are legitimately looking for boyfriends or husbands but how can they take the guys seriously when the guys ask them to take their clothes off within the first 5 minutes of chatting with them.
Many of the guys (many guys in this thread) look at this sites as a game. They won't admit it but they promise these girls the world, including potential marriage, etc. The girls will fuck the guys because they are desperate and hope that the guys promises just might pan out when the guy is just there to find them, fuck them and flee. Not saying there is anything wrong with that as long as the girl knows its nothing serious. Somehow I doubt the real intention of the guy ever gets out and the guy just makes pie in the skie promises and likely is just a working class guy living in a trailer park.
The other scamming guys are the Cherry Hunters. This not something as rare as you might think. A lot of guys just cruise the sites looking for girls to promise marriage to in exchange for early cherry release. They are just sadists or insecure and realize there is no way in hell they could get a young virgin in the real world. After the guy busts the cherry, he disappears. No different than a local except the girl doesnt have any false hopes with the local guy. Have heard plenty of stories for years and have been to the Phils 17 times and in 23 different cities from 9 different regions. Many of the girls are just giving me bullshit but when you start to hear some of the same stories over and over again, there has to be some truth to it.
Just exposing the other side of the coin.
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Yes, I remember that handle. Welcome back.
Don't spend all your time in Manila. AC is a good idea. That's a good trip if it's your first. X
[QUOTE=Longhorn2000]Thanks for the advice guys. Xman, I used to go under the handle Macauman, but somehow I was unable to use it again when I registered. That's why I have such few posts. I'm also 40ish Xman, and in fairly decent shape. Perhaps balding, but not bald. In any event, I'll webcam whenever I'm asked, and so far, none of the FH sweeties have recoiled in horror or ceased contact with me after they've laid eyes on my ugly mug.
Anyway, I only have 15 days, so I'm planning on splitting my time between Manila and Angeles (or possibly Cebu). Or maybe I'll stay in Manila the whole time. Any other suggestions? I'm rebounding hard from a Filipina who tore my heart out of my chest with her bare hands here in the States after 9 months of absolute sexual bliss. I suddenly became a piece of shit after I declined her request to "loan" her $10, 000. She's a dead ringer for Eva Longoria (I'm not joking), and I'm hoping to find a replacement, at least for a couple of weeks, so I can get her out of my system once and for all. Hence, a trip to the Phils instead of LOS.
Thanks again![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=OptimusPrime]Lots of guys that go on chat sites like CB and FH only go on their to either find cherry girls or girls to fuck. Many of the girls on some of the sites are legitimately looking for boyfriends or husbands but how can they take the guys seriously when the guys ask them to take their clothes off within the first 5 minutes of chatting with them.
Many of the guys (many guys in this thread) look at this sites as a game. They won't admit it but they promise these girls the world, including potential marriage, etc. The girls will fuck the guys because they are desperate and hope that the guys promises just might pan out when the guy is just there to find them, fuck them and flee. Not saying there is anything wrong with that as long as the girl knows its nothing serious. Somehow I doubt the real intention of the guy ever gets out and the guy just makes pie in the skie promises and likely is just a working class guy living in a trailer park.
The other scamming guys are the Cherry Hunters. This not something as rare as you might think. A lot of guys just cruise the sites looking for girls to promise marriage to in exchange for early cherry release. They are just sadists or insecure and realize there is no way in hell they could get a young virgin in the real world. After the guy busts the cherry, he disappears. No different than a local except the girl doesnt have any false hopes with the local guy. Have heard plenty of stories for years and have been to the Phils 17 times and in 23 different cities from 9 different regions. Many of the girls are just giving me bullshit but when you start to hear some of the same stories over and over again, there has to be some truth to it.
Just exposing the other side of the coin.[/QUOTE]I am really glad to read this posting. I have been on CB for many years and never really met anyone that would make me want to settle down. Until now. I was so jaded due to the fact that I have dated a few Filipinas in the past. One who was brought here by her husband and dumped on her own. She took out her anger on me and made my life a living hell. I swore off the Pinays. Until I found that most American women were as bad if not worse. My ex-fiance tore my heart out and nearly cost me everything. So, it's not really where you look, but WHAT you are looking for. Let me preface by saying that if you have to go half way across the world just to get some or mess with some young woman's head, you have issues. I can't afford the karma, and I don't think anyone can. That being said, I gave CB another chance and was fortunate to find the nicest, sweetest, kindest most caring woman I have ever met in my life. Not to mention she is a knockout. We have chatted on line for several months, almost 4 times a week. She has given up talking to anyone else (I trust the fact that she pulled her profile down from CB that this is true). She told me about some guy she got to know who promised her the world and then when he got there, he had 6 women waiting on him, 2 that he already got pregnant. What a *******! I could imagine her trepidations with me. And personally, I was very leery of trusting her and taking her at face value. Luckily, she has family here in the states. I have come to know her cousin who married an American and now I talk to her and her husband. My girl is educated, smart, hard working and is not looking for a handout. She has never once asked me for a penny. Now that I feel totally comfortable, I am heading to the PI to meet her and decide if she is the one I want to spend my life with. I am not going over there to mess with her head, or to have sex. I will treat her as I would like to be treated. After hearing her story, I can understand why many of the women feel the way they do and take advantage of men. It's payback. Of course there are many owmen on CB who are out for one thing, MONEY. Steer clear of them unless you work out a mutual arangement. But if you are going to PI to monger, then stick with the pros. I think its not fair to mess with the head's of nice girls and destroy their self esteem and hurt them that way. Wish me luck.
Dude, I hope things turn out the way you want them. But, a few things I find odd here...
1) You think the world of this woman, but you haven't met her yet.
2) You think the world of this woman, but you don't plan to have sex with her. Huh?
3) You've heard her sob story and believe every word of it. You haven't done much reading at ISG, have you? (Let me take a wild guess....since she was treated so badly before, you've promised to visit the Philippines and see ONLY here. Am I right?)
Good luck,
X man
[QUOTE=Nyradio Flyer]I am really glad to read this posting. I have been on CB for many years and never really met anyone that would make me want to settle down. Until now. I was so jaded due to the fact that I have dated a few Filipinas in the past. One who was brought here by her husband and dumped on her own. She took out her anger on me and made my life a living hell. I swore off the Pinays. Until I found that most American women were as bad if not worse. My ex-fiance tore my heart out and nearly cost me everything. So, it's not really where you look, but WHAT you are looking for. Let me preface by saying that if you have to go half way across the world just to get some or mess with some young woman's head, you have issues. I can't afford the karma, and I don't think anyone can. That being said, I gave CB another chance and was fortunate to find the nicest, sweetest, kindest most caring woman I have ever met in my life. Not to mention she is a knockout. We have chatted on line for several months, almost 4 times a week. She has given up talking to anyone else (I trust the fact that she pulled her profile down from CB that this is true). She told me about some guy she got to know who promised her the world and then when he got there, he had 6 women waiting on him, 2 that he already got pregnant. What a *******! I could imagine her trepidations with me. And personally, I was very leery of trusting her and taking her at face value. Luckily, she has family here in the states. I have come to know her cousin who married an American and now I talk to her and her husband. My girl is educated, smart, hard working and is not looking for a handout. She has never once asked me for a penny. Now that I feel totally comfortable, I am heading to the PI to meet her and decide if she is the one I want to spend my life with. I am not going over there to mess with her head, or to have sex. I will treat her as I would like to be treated. After hearing her story, I can understand why many of the women feel the way they do and take advantage of men. It's payback. Of course there are many owmen on CB who are out for one thing, MONEY. Steer clear of them unless you work out a mutual arangement. But if you are going to PI to monger, then stick with the pros. I think its not fair to mess with the head's of nice girls and destroy their self esteem and hurt them that way. Wish me luck.[/QUOTE]
Nyradio, I sincerely do wish you luck, but I understand X's cynicism. He's been here often enough to observe a lot of what I've observed by living here: there's often a vast difference between virtual reality and reality. The number of guys who have come here believing that "this one is different," who ignore every bit of advice from the expats living here who have seen it all before and then who get taken for everything they have is legion. This may not be the case here, and I hope for your sake that it is not, but given the context of the country, it just pays to be extremely cautious.
The only way I know of to even the odds is to stay for a long time; to live with the woman and really get to know her character day to day. Most guys of course do not have this kind of time, and so they rush to judgment--proposing, arranging visas, etc.--within a matter of a few weeks. For some it works. For most, it does not and to their chagrin and financial regret they find that the person they idealized is not in fact the person in whom they have invested. I am not trying the disparage your point of view, just trying to stress that in the case of the Philippines, slow is always better than fast.
There's a saying in French that goes: "Un homme averti en vaux deux," which more or less means that a man who has been warned is worth two men who have not been.
GE
[QUOTE=Nyradio Flyer]That being said, I gave CB another chance and was fortunate to find the nicest, sweetest, kindest most caring woman I have ever met in my life. Not to mention she is a knockout. We have chatted on line for several months, almost 4 times a week. She has given up talking to anyone else (I trust the fact that she pulled her profile down from CB that this is true). She told me about some guy she got to know who promised her the world and then when he got there, he had 6 women waiting on him, 2 that he already got pregnant. What a *******! I could imagine her trepidations with me. And personally, I was very leery of trusting her and taking her at face value. Luckily, she has family here in the states. I have come to know her cousin who married an American and now I talk to her and her husband. My girl is educated, smart, hard working and is not looking for a handout. She has never once asked me for a penny. Now that I feel totally comfortable, I am heading to the PI to meet her and decide if she is the one I want to spend my life with. I am not going over there to mess with her head, or to have sex. I will treat her as I would like to be treated. [/QUOTE]There are a few gems out there. I was stationed on Okinawa in the mid-80 and made about 8 trips to Clark AB. I mongered the h*ll out of Angeles City. After returning to the states in 1986, I missed the Filipinas and consulted an introduction service. A friend had submitted her picture and bio. Long story short, we celebrated our 20th wedding anniversary this past July. She is smart, intelligent, loving and tolerates me. It was the smartest thing I ever did in my life. I love my wife madly and she still turns me on sexually. I can't keep my hands of her slim trim body. We have made a comfortable life together and I look forward to growing old with her.
Slim
Good advice GoodEnough,
Against my better judgment, I wedded a woman from China who I never felt I got to spend enough time with beforehand, even though I made several 2 week trips over there while awaiting visa approval. A painful divorce was the inevitable result.
Even if you do get to spend substantial time with a Filipina getting to know her, you still have to keep your guard up. I met one here in the States last year, and embarked upon a torrid love affair that lasted nearly a year. She lived with me, we vacationed together, spent virtually every day together, etc. , etc. Then, one day out of the blue, she asked that I loan her $10, 000. When I asked why she needed it, I was given several inconsistent stories. When I said "no", she abruptly moved out and I never heard a word from her again. Last I heard, she's living with a guy 37 years older than her. I guess he came up with the cash.
X Man I am intrigued I thought beards were a turn off for filipinas have things changed in these enlightened times?
Nyradio, there is an ancient Greek legend about filipinas except in those days they had a different name "Sirens" I've already been shipwrecked falling for 2 great Filipino ladies, oh well as soon as I fix the argonaut I'm heading back again because once you taste that fruit no other pleases, this time "sigh" I promise I'm going to avoid the exclusive commitment to just one, maybe.
835338 Here is a nice young lady on CB looking for a person to help her unfortunately I have let my paid membership lapse I can only look.
Hi to all,
I read your posts about Cb and signed into their site.
Im a bit bored here in my country so I decide to give it a try cause Im flying back to PI in a couple of weeks.
Viewing now the first page of PI woman and it makes me laugh...Either those gurls are dam ugly :D , or they camgurls or ladyboys....
Its weekend here so I dont mind to try this out.
While Im writing this I got 5 messages to chat with me, I decinded them all cause of the above reason.
I m gona post my experiance here......dam now an ugly ladyboy like to chat me LOL
Happy hunting
Blink
My First sample of Filipina pussy came from yahoo chat. We chatted it up for 3 months until I made my first trip to Manila. When I arrived I did not realize how popular I (or any westerner) would be in this place. Thank you Rose where ever you are for helping me discover that place.
[QUOTE=Blink157]Hi to all,
I read your posts about Cb and signed into their site.
Im a bit bored here in my country so I decide to give it a try cause Im flying back to PI in a couple of weeks.
Viewing now the first page of PI woman and it makes me laugh...Either those gurls are dam ugly :D , or they camgurls or ladyboys....
Its weekend here so I dont mind to try this out.
While Im writing this I got 5 messages to chat with me, I decinded them all cause of the above reason.
I m gona post my experiance here......dam now an ugly ladyboy like to chat me LOL
Happy hunting
Blink[/QUOTE]
Hi Blink! I will be interested to read your experiences.
Please post when you can.
Im one of those who patronises 'dating' websites. Because I prefer Asian women those are the ones I go to. I also like this because I find having sex with a woman I know & like is usually (but not always) sexier than a quick root with a prostitute whom i'll probably ever see again.
In order to weed out the girls just looking to get a wedding ring asap I go out of my way NOT to write misleading things in my profile or say anything to them that can be misinterpreted.
In other words I say Im looking for fun, friendship a little romance.
I do NOT insinuate or promise marriage. Im always honest that Im not gonna be available to them as much as they may like.
Still I get INUNDATED with emails & chat requests.
So I take my pick of them & followup. Sometimes Im disappointed often Im very pleasantly surprised.
You do NOT have to pretend to be a squeaky clean 'nice guy' looking for marriage.
*You do NOT have to bullshit girls to get a root*
Heres a couple of my present girls:
Ms C. 18, Human resources student in Manila. Met her in Manila after a few emails, looked much better than her pics (which were quite ok). Discussion of future plans - she does NOT want to think about marriage for 3 years until she has completed her studies. Happy to be a GF and indeed gave me her cherry enthusiastically. Personality? Total GFE. A real pleasure to be with in or out of bed. Maintenance? take her shopping/movies/restruants/disco etc when there, otherwise very little.
Ms V 18, Nursing Student in Manila.
Met her in Manila after a few emails, looked MUCH better than her pics (which were very ordinary). Discussion of future plans - she does NOT want to think about marriage for 3 years until she has completed her studies. Happy to be a GF and indeed also gave me her cherry enthusiastically.
Personality? An enigma, rarely txt's or emails, even when with her she is inscrutable. First time we bonked I was so surprised because she gave NOTHING away. Sa there saying little watching TV, i leaned over to place a peck on her cheek & WHAM! she was all over me. Nice memory..
Maintenance? take her shopping/movies/restruants/disco etc when there, otherwise very little.
Ms E 28, Nanny in Singapore.
Met her in Singapore after a few emails, looked MUCH better than her pics (which were very ordinary). Discussion of future plans - says she does NOT want to rush into marriage after previous pinoy husband dumped her. Happy to be a GF. Definitely was'nt cherry but according to her had not had a root for EIGHT years after hubby pissed off. She certainly acts like she has ad a long dry spell he he he. I suspect she is lying about not wanting marriage. My conscience is clear I told no lies.
Personality? Very GFE. A very pleasant way to stop over on my way to & from the Phils or Malaysia...
Maintenance? take her shopping/movies/restruants/disco etc when there, otherwise nothing at all.
Ms C 26, Nursing Student in Zamboanga. (Of all places)
First time we chatted she mentioned she liked to go bar hopping *Bingo!*
prettier than her internet pics. Discussion of future plans? Just wants to be friends, hints at wanting more but accepts my position on the subject (friends only). Personality? Acts like a nice girl but loves to let her hair down & get bad! Maintenance? Food & drink, a little shopping.
So you see there -are- horny beautiful girls on the sites who -dont- require you to bullshit & lie to them.
Happy mongering
Amavida
A lot of great posts on this subject. I especially liked Slim's comments.
As for Longhorn's story, I have a feeling she was going to dump him and that's why she asked for the money. If he gave the money to her, he would have lost her and the money. If he doesn't give the money, she has a reason to dump him. I'm just guessing of course -- maybe LH will elaborate.
Thanks Bilbo for the access number. I'll take a look when I get home from work.
X Man
[QUOTE=Longhorn2000]Good advice GoodEnough,
Against my better judgment, I wedded a woman from China who I never felt I got to spend enough time with beforehand, even though I made several 2 week trips over there while awaiting visa approval. A painful divorce was the inevitable result.
Even if you do get to spend substantial time with a Filipina getting to know her, you still have to keep your guard up. I met one here in the States last year, and embarked upon a torrid love affair that lasted nearly a year. She lived with me, we vacationed together, spent virtually every day together, etc. , etc. Then, one day out of the blue, she asked that I loan her $10, 000. When I asked why she needed it, I was given several inconsistent stories. When I said "no", she abruptly moved out and I never heard a word from her again. Last I heard, she's living with a guy 37 years older than her. I guess he came up with the cash.[/QUOTE]
[quote=robbaf]after living here for the last seven months, the reason i chat on-line and meet girls in the mall, is because i like the chase. i still go to the bar and bf sometimes, but there is nothing like chatting with a girl for a month, have her show up at your hotel and within one hour she is rocking your world, not because i paid her, because she wants too.
i met this girl on date in asia and she told me what she wanted and she did exactly what she said. true gfe and true to her word, she wants a relationship, but said that she understood that i wanted a friend. she still emails me and texts me, but no drama and wants to come back to my room now.[/quote]
last time i was there was 2004 i thought i was going to get raped. my girl almost got into a fight with a chick in jollibees because she was flirting with me and she was not the only one.
Xman,
As usual, you are spot on. I have no doubt that she was going to dump me anyway. The sex had dwindled at that point from the 3 times a day we were doing in the beginning to once a week if I was lucky. No doubt I would have lost the $10, 000 and her simultaneously, with no return on such a massive investment. When I asked her why she was leaving me, she told me that she expects her boyfriend to give her everything she wants, which must include requests for $10, 000. Two weeks later, she requested that I buy her a $1200 Louis Vuitton purse. That request was also denied.
It still hurts like hell, but the bottom line is I got fantastic sex multiple times a day for a fairly decent period of time, with a minimal cash outlay, so I can't complain too much. She simply changed the rules of the game, and I elected not to play by them.
[QUOTE=Blink157]Hi to all,
I read your posts about Cb and signed into their site.
Im a bit bored here in my country so I decide to give it a try cause Im flying back to PI in a couple of weeks.
Viewing now the first page of PI woman and it makes me laugh...Either those gurls are dam ugly :D , or they camgurls or ladyboys....
Its weekend here so I dont mind to try this out.
While Im writing this I got 5 messages to chat with me, I decinded them all cause of the above reason.
I m gona post my experiance here......dam now an ugly ladyboy like to chat me LOL
Happy hunting
Blink[/QUOTE]
I used to get so many invites to chat and messages on CB that it was difficult to even browse, much less try to chat with a girl on CB, so as a test I put in my profile the following. "For all those who post fake pictures in the hopes of communicating and getting money, you can move on, I have traveled all over Asia and I know all the tricks. So do not waste your time or mine."
It cut down the number of invites and messages by at least 80%. Before I put that text on my profile I would send an invite to a pretty picture on CB and would always get a response, now i get a response from only about 10% of the hot pictures. of course this is not a scientific test, but I do not think we need a scientific test when dealing with the Philippine scam artist.
my 2 peso worth.
FF
[QUOTE=Longhorn2000]Xman,
As usual, you are spot on. I have no doubt that she was going to dump me anyway. The sex had dwindled at that point from the 3 times a day we were doing in the beginning to once a week if I was lucky. No doubt I would have lost the $10, 000 and her simultaneously, with no return on such a massive investment. When I asked her why she was leaving me, she told me that she expects her boyfriend to give her everything she wants, which must include requests for $10, 000. Two weeks later, she requested that I buy her a $1200 Louis Vuitton purse. That request was also denied.
It still hurts like hell, but the bottom line is I got fantastic sex multiple times a day for a fairly decent period of time, with a minimal cash outlay, so I can't complain too much. She simply changed the rules of the game, and I elected not to play by them.[/QUOTE]
I don’t know what it is about Filipinas, money and extravagant gifts. I was dating a Filipina back in 04 from Quezon City who was [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] poor but when ever I gave her money she would go and waste it on things like jewelry and other immaterial things. Now currently dating a Filipina in Tokyo who shows this same behavior though she has a decent job it’s not uncommon for her to go buy $300 shades or a $1400 necklace. Why?
I have a Filipina friend in Dubai who is married back in the PI but has requested items from me such as jewelry and a house and lot. When ever I respond with “Whom I think your husband should be buying that” she gets angry. Last but not least I have a buddy making good money who picked up a Filipina from Manila who was living in California the last 6 years. She does nothing but he buys her everything and she brags about it. Shes a former Shabu addict ( brags about that too) I just don’t get this obsessions with asking for large dough or expensive items when you really can’t afford them or pay back borrowed money.
Dude,
You are a cherry hunter, plain and simple. Don't rationalize your actions and say you never promised anything and they just fell in love with you over the net. Filpinas don't just enthusiastically give up their cherry on a whim. If they do, then they are not really cherry. If they did, then I presume they are just dogs (as most CB girls are) and feel they just needed to get it over with. You also have to understand the duplicity of Filipino communication. She may say one thing to prevent losing face but she will give you plenty of other cues that she means something else.
Get over yourself.
This is a characteristic of Filipinas that I've never understood, and after having lived here for 5 years or so I still do not understand it. The concept of deferred gratification simply does not exist for most Filipinas or Filipinos for that matter. I think it may be related to the culture of poverty that imbues the whole country with a kind of fatalism, of the sort that encourages short-term thinking. The national credo almost seems to be: "I have no idea what tomorrow will bring, but it probably won't be anything good and who knows if I'll have money then? Therefore I need to satisfy myself immediately." I've said more than once that a Filipinos idea of a long term plan is deciding at breakfast what he might like to have for lunch. It sounds a bit cruel, but it's more often than not true.
This may also be somewhat of a function of socio-economic status and educational status as well. My middle class, educated Filipino friends do not seem to adhere to this norm.
GE
[QUOTE=GoodEnough]This is a characteristic of Filipinas that I've never understood, and after having lived here for 5 years or so I still do not understand it. The concept of deferred gratification simply does not exist for most Filipinas or Filipinos for that matter. I think it may be related to the culture of poverty that imbues the whole country with a kind of fatalism, of the sort that encourages short-term thinking. The national credo almost seems to be: "I have no idea what tomorrow will bring, but it probably won't be anything good and who knows if I'll have money then? Therefore I need to satisfy myself immediately." I've said more than once that a Filipinos idea of a long term plan is deciding at breakfast what he might like to have for lunch. It sounds a bit cruel, but it's more often than not true.
This may also be somewhat of a function of socio-economic status and educational status as well. My middle class, educated Filipino friends do not seem to adhere to this norm.
GE[/QUOTE]
Could be it is another American influence on the Philippines here. This is very similar to the instant gratification situation in the USA. Difference in the USA is that the government props up too many families here and the availability of credit here is staggering.
Not many people in the USA save even a dime, we are just a wealthier nation.
I love the health care debate here in the USA. They go on and on about families not being able to afford health care when the truth is they choose not to buy health care and instead buy lottery tickets, eat out every night of the week, buy a car that is way over their ability to afford and then let the children go without insurance. I saw a relative do this. I could not believe it.
FF
[QUOTE=GoodEnough]This is a characteristic of Filipinas that I've never understood, and after having lived here for 5 years or so I still do not understand it. The concept of deferred gratification simply does not exist for most Filipinas or Filipinos for that matter. I think it may be related to the culture of poverty that imbues the whole country with a kind of fatalism, of the sort that encourages short-term thinking. The national credo almost seems to be: "I have no idea what tomorrow will bring, but it probably won't be anything good and who knows if I'll have money then? Therefore I need to satisfy myself immediately." I've said more than once that a Filipinos idea of a long term plan is deciding at breakfast what he might like to have for lunch. It sounds a bit cruel, but it's more often than not true.
This may also be somewhat of a function of socio-economic status and educational status as well. My middle class, educated Filipino friends do not seem to adhere to this norm.
GE[/QUOTE]
GE
I tend to agree with you. The reason many will take instant presents and spend immediately is they have something to pawn later in life when you are not there and they need cash for the family. And/or they like the baubles etc so they can show off to friends.
Have seen this here in the UAE many times. I actually advise them to go to the local exchange houses and set up pesos account in Philippines so they have something for later when they return (even tell them which places to go and which banks) but few listen and act on that advice.
But generally the poorer educated/lower socio economic class etc the more likely they acquire baubles immediately etc.
[QUOTE=OptimusPrime]Dude,
You are a cherry hunter, plain and simple. Don't rationalize your actions and say you never promised anything and they just fell in love with you over the net. Filpinas don't just enthusiastically give up their cherry on a whim. If they do, then they are not really cherry. If they did, then I presume they are just dogs (as most CB girls are) and feel they just needed to get it over with. You also have to understand the duplicity of Filipino communication. She may say one thing to prevent losing face but she will give you plenty of other cues that she means something else.
Get over yourself.[/QUOTE]
I disagree.
Firstly i do not go looking for cherry girls, it just so happens that younger women are more likely to be cherry still. Younger women are more likely to want a bf only and not a husband which suits me just fine as i have no intention of settling down yet. I go out of my way to avoid the husband hunters & find the women who just want a bf. As an example, Ms C the HR student stated on her profile "I would like a nice boy friend" and when questioned about her views on marriage stated clearly & unequivocally "I dont want to get think about marriage until im finished my studies". Jeez how clear does she have to be dude?
Secondly, having sex with a cherry is bloody tedious and no real fun until they have learned the ropes of adult love making/sex. Not my idea of fun but i mention the cherry status only in passing to indicate that not all women on the dating sites are blushing 'good girls' saving it for their future husband.
if anything my relationships with gf's are more akin to a sugardaddy situation where the girls enjoys hanging out with a (relatively) wealthy bf & the bf enjoys their company.
My gf status waxes & wanes depending on chance & how busy I am. there are times when i have no gf & other times like now when i end up with several nice women to share my time with.
I do not accept the position that ALL pinoy women are victims just innocently looking for marriage. Dude, I can tell you first hand that there ARE plenty of girls who want a more casual relationship.
One final thought, gf reltaionships don't remain static, often the younger women outgrow the relationship & want to move on as is normal part of growing & maturing. The formerly cherry girls once liberated from their virgin status desire to participate & explore adult sexuality with other partners.
Im not gonna take offense at your post, you have the right to your opinions, thanks for giving a right of reply.
Happy mongering
Amavida
First of all, what does amavida mean? You too OP?
OP, read your post and your thoughts pretty much meshed with mine. Walking away from a virgin is pretty easy to do. But then you say most CB girls are below par....
That's kind of insulting to those of us who use CB ( I recently subscribed for a second round) and is a red herring as well. Most women in any society or subsection of society are under par -- at least at some level. You're being insulting and disingenuous at the same time.
I'll agree with OP on the basic premise that shagging a virgin is bloody stupid (pun intended). Amavida has a very good comeback.
Neverhtheless Amavida, why you doing virgins? Do you think you're doing them a favor? You seem like a pretty articulate guy, but I understand if you don't want to answer. Or better yet, give the short answer here and the long answer to my pm.
Somehow I think that teenagers getting it on is the best way for teenagers to lose their virginity and learn about sexuality
If my teen-son was done by a generous middle-aged woman I would worry about his new perspective.
[QUOTE=Amavida]I disagree.
Firstly i do not go looking for cherry girls, it just so happens that younger women are more likely to be cherry still. Younger women are more likely to want a bf only and not a husband which suits me just fine as i have no intention of settling down yet. I go out of my way to avoid the husband hunters & find the women who just want a bf. As an example, Ms C the HR student stated on her profile "I would like a nice boy friend" and when questioned about her views on marriage stated clearly & unequivocally "I dont want to get think about marriage until im finished my studies". Jeez how clear does she have to be dude?
Secondly, having sex with a cherry is bloody tedious and no real fun until they have learned the ropes of adult love making/sex. Not my idea of fun but i mention the cherry status only in passing to indicate that not all women on the dating sites are blushing 'good girls' saving it for their future husband.
if anything my relationships with gf's are more akin to a sugardaddy situation where the girls enjoys hanging out with a (relatively) wealthy bf & the bf enjoys their company.
My gf status waxes & wanes depending on chance & how busy I am. there are times when i have no gf & other times like now when i end up with several nice women to share my time with.
I do not accept the position that ALL pinoy women are victims just innocently looking for marriage. Dude, I can tell you first hand that there ARE plenty of girls who want a more casual relationship.
One final thought, gf reltaionships don't remain static, often the younger women outgrow the relationship & want to move on as is normal part of growing & maturing. The formerly cherry girls once liberated from their virgin status desire to participate & explore adult sexuality with other partners.
Im not gonna take offense at your post, you have the right to your opinions, thanks for giving a right of reply.
Happy mongering
Amavida[/QUOTE]
Oh, been waiting for this moment.
CB girl tells me that her profile is "unavailble" because she has dedicated herself to me.
C00549356
I may have told her that I plan to visit the Philippines in December, but I have not made any promises, nor have I asked her to make herself exclusive to me. In fact, I do not have the any intent to visit her in that part of Mindanao.
So, if anyone here has CB subscription, please send her a quick message. I'm sure she'll be polite and respond. Nevertheless, I'd love to see how "unavailable" she is. (common sense, but please be polite....no one knows her situation)
X Man
X Man
[QUOTE=X Man]First of all, what does amavida mean? You too OP?
OP, read your post and your thoughts pretty much meshed with mine. Walking away from a virgin is pretty easy to do. But then you say most CB girls are below par....
That's kind of insulting to those of us who use CB ( I recently subscribed for a second round) and is a red herring as well. Most women in any society or subsection of society are under par -- at least at some level. You're being insulting and disingenuous at the same time.
I'll agree with OP on the basic premise that shagging a virgin is bloody stupid (pun intended). Amavida has a very good comeback.
Neverhtheless Amavida, why you doing virgins? Do you think you're doing them a favor? You seem like a pretty articulate guy, but I understand if you don't want to answer. Or better yet, give the short answer here and the long answer to my pm.
Somehow I think that teenagers getting it on is the best way for teenagers to lose their virginity and learn about sexuality
If my teen-son was done by a generous middle-aged woman I would worry about his new perspective.[/QUOTE]
First of all you're ASSUMING I set out to shag virgins...
HELLO! does anyone on a dating site ask 'uh by the way are you a virgin?'. No of course not!
Most of my previous sexual partners have not been & I do not seek them.
Sometimes when in you're in bed with a girl it becomes apparent or they bring up the subject, then what am supposed to do? Tell them to get lost & kick them out?
In fact there have been rare occurrences in the past when it became apparent that a partner was 'inexperienced' & I did ease out of the relationship before getting to the stage of being in bed. Other times a girl is coming on to you passionately in bed & you're both hot for each other & then 'oh oh' she's a virgin goes through your mind but she pushes on willingly anyway.
It just so happens that two of several women I met recently turned out to be cherry & both were enthusiastic about changing that status with NO coercion from me.
Its nice that a partner feels safe to share that level of intimacy with you but as I said its really not fun for a normal man... very long tedious session. In fact the whole session is about HER, usually a virgin gives no thought to the mans pleasure because, lets face it she does'nt know how & is preoccupied with what's happening to HER. I enjoy mutual pleasure, which is another reason I find hooker sex less satisfying. Nothing great about having fake sex with a hooker.
I understand there are some guys that have a predilection for this 'cherry hunting' but I don't get what they see in it. I think guys that seek out the experinence of 'taking a girls cherry' have issues. Look at the prices paid by Korean tourists in PI for this dubious pleasure... I wonder how they get any gratification out of rushing through an hour of painful intercourse with an inexperienced girl....
its coincidental that I have had sex with a couple of (very nice) cherry girls recently. For the last time I dont seek them out. I do enjoy dating filippina women & confine myself to GF type relationships, no usband hunters for me thanks!
Happy mongering
Amavida
[QUOTE=Frequent Flier]Could be it is another American influence on the Philippines here. This is very similar to the instant gratification situation in the USA. Difference in the USA is that the government props up too many families here and the availability of credit here is staggering.
Not many people in the USA save even a dime, we are just a wealthier nation.
I love the health care debate here in the USA. They go on and on about families not being able to afford health care when the truth is they choose not to buy health care and instead buy lottery tickets, eat out every night of the week, buy a car that is way over their ability to afford and then let the children go without insurance. I saw a relative do this. I could not believe it.
FF[/QUOTE]
FF, I don't want to get into some tedious liberal/conservative debate on the merits of universal health care in that I doubt you and I would ever agree, and it's way off topic to this forum at any rate. I would point out however, that the US is the only developed country in the world without universal health care which ought to provide some indication of the strength of America's social compact in relation to other countries. Certainly you would not advocate, I assume, denying health care to the children of poor families? Children who bear no responsibility at all for the (alleged) profligacy of their parents?
I apologize for getting so far off topic here.
GE
Earlier...Amavida writes....
"it just so happens that younger women are more likely to be cherry "
So, can I assume you target "younger women"? You sound like an intelligent guy, so I assumed you don't need to tell us that younger women are more likely to be virgin. I assume the message is that you're corresponding with younger women because you like younger women. We all know that, to a certain degree, they could be more "likely to be cherry", so I assume you're not trying to belittle our intelligence.
I'm using your words above, but to be honest I don't ASSUME (your capital letters) anything about the situation. And I certainly don't ask " 'uh by the way are you a virgin?"
But I do find out one way or the other. For example, "Where's your boyfriend tonight?" Usual respons is somewhere along the lines of "he's gone". If it's too vauge, I ask in a joking way, "OH, still innocent?"
And to be fair, I have found myself, much to my own surprise, much too intimate with a woman who was (or claimed to be) a virgin. In those cases, she ended up an experienced woman by the end of the episode -- most often by admitting she was exagerrating in the first place.
X man
[QUOTE=Amavida]First of all you're ASSUMING I set out to shag virgins...
HELLO! does anyone on a dating site ask 'uh by the way are you a virgin?'. No of course not!
[QUOTE=X Man]Earlier...Amavida writes....
"it just so happens that younger women are more likely to be cherry "
So, can I assume you target "younger women"? You sound like an intelligent guy, so I assumed you don't need to tell us that younger women are more likely to be virgin. I assume the message is that you're corresponding with younger women because you like younger women. We all know that, to a certain degree, they could be more "likely to be cherry", so I assume you're not trying to belittle our intelligence.
I'm using your words above, but to be honest I don't ASSUME (your capital letters) anything about the situation. And I certainly don't ask " 'uh by the way are you a virgin?"
But I do find out one way or the other. For example, "Where's your boyfriend tonight?" Usual respons is somewhere along the lines of "he's gone". If it's too vauge, I ask in a joking way, "OH, still innocent?"
And to be fair, I have found myself, much to my own surprise, much too intimate with a woman who was (or claimed to be) a virgin. In those cases, she ended up an experienced woman by the end of the episode -- most often by admitting she was exagerrating in the first place.
X man
[QUOTE=Amavida]First of all you're ASSUMING I set out to shag virgins...
HELLO! does anyone on a dating site ask 'uh by the way are you a virgin?'. No of course not![/QUOTE]
I think you are being argumentative for the sake of it.
I date younger women because they are less likely to be husband hunting & more likely to be looking for a casual relationship.
I have good success because I'm young, good looking & honest about wanting a casual relationship.
Think what you like.
Im going to ignore this thread, its been done to death by you.
Happy mongering
Amavida
Amavida:
You consider yourself a good looking guy by whose standarad? A deseperate Filipina? Cmon, you even said yourself you are a middle aged bald guy with a beard. Sure, Filpinas dream all day about scoring a guy like that. Not saying it's easy to shage Filipinas meeting them over the net, it's easy. Some of them are camgirls that will not tell you about it and some are hooking on the side. Some are normal girls and some are experienced girls claiming to be cherry.
On the other side of the coin, these girls say they are looking for a bf so I assume you are giving them some sort of promises that it might happen. For a Filipina, "I am looking for a bf" translates to "I am looking for some fun and a guy who will sponsor me and send money Western Union". I am assuming that you are sending these girls cash before you get there to grease the wheels a bit. I still find it amazing that guys send money to girls they never met in person. Lastly, any girl willing to give up there cherry to a guy that promises them zero is probably a girl so unattractive that even local guys won't fuck them after drinking 10 Red Horse's. If that is the case, then you are likely 100% telling us the truth. She is giving up her cherry because its likely nobody else wants it and she isn't getting any younger.
I mixed up Amavida with another guy but I still doubt the guy is good looking as stated or he wouldnt be going all the way to Phils to bang girls.
[QUOTE=X Man]Somehow I think that teenagers getting it on is the best way for teenagers to lose their virginity and learn about sexuality.[/QUOTE]I agree 100% with you X Man. Now, IMHO...I have talked to no less then 100 Filipinas in the last seven months on this subject. I would say that 60% of them had at least one baby and some had two. When I asked, "Who is the father?" each one replied, "My first true Filipino love". When I asked if they knew of safe sex (condoms) when they got pregnant they replied, "No!”. Most told me that if a girl is from the province and she is cherry, it is considered a sin to mention sex. One girl said that her mom told her that now she had her period that she should stay away from men. She said that she kept asking her mom why, but her mom wouldn't tell her. Most of the girls told me that they didn't know that they would get pregnant from having sex. If you have spent any time in the Philippines, then you know how many girls get pregnant and the guy runs away and they end up in the bar to support their baby.
I am leaving the Philippines in a week :mad: after living/working here for 7 months. Good news is, I think that I have a new job here starting in Feb 08:cool:
When I return home, I will have time to post many photos and reports from my time here.
Stay safe,
Robb
Gentlemen,
Luvulooongtime here. According to my relatives not many girls are virgins anymore. LOL. Even in the province. I scored with a few "nice" girls 22 years and younger and they were not inexperienced; ). So I think this cherry girl debate bit academic. My understanding is that premarital sex is common now. I did go with a virgin to Baguio once, will never do it again, she was nice but frigid, or at least to me; ) My cousins set me up with her because they knew she was "marriageable". Personally, there is no thrill to deflower a young maiden unless she is hot, and she is hot for me. Luvulooongtime
PS. I enjoy reading the moralist arguments of whorists like us. The irony is so?
[QUOTE=OptimusPrime]Amavida:
You consider yourself a good looking guy by whose standarad? A deseperate Filipina? Cmon, you even said yourself you are a middle aged bald guy with a beard. Sure, Filpinas dream all day about scoring a guy like that. Not saying it's easy to shage Filipinas meeting them over the net, it's easy. Some of them are camgirls that will not tell you about it and some are hooking on the side. Some are normal girls and some are experienced girls claiming to be cherry.
On the other side of the coin, these girls say they are looking for a bf so I assume you are giving them some sort of promises that it might happen. For a Filipina, "I am looking for a bf" translates to "I am looking for some fun and a guy who will sponsor me and send money Western Union". I am assuming that you are sending these girls cash before you get there to grease the wheels a bit. I still find it amazing that guys send money to girls they never met in person. Lastly, any girl willing to give up there cherry to a guy that promises them zero is probably a girl so unattractive that even local guys won't fuck them after drinking 10 Red Horse's. If that is the case, then you are likely 100% telling us the truth. She is giving up her cherry because its likely nobody else wants it and she isn't getting any younger.[/QUOTE]
Against my better judgement Im responding one last time...
You and Xman are making A LOT of assumptions about me & then criticising me based on those assumptions.
Believe it or not the women I date are not naive vulnerable poor girls from the province. ( a subject you both seem to be very knowledgeable about.. ahem) The women I date are sophisticated (by PI standards), educated, financially stable & attractive who live in the big city. They are the ones who have choices.
Do I detect a whiff of jealousy here?
It disgusts me to walk around the phils & see fat ugly old foreigners dragging around tiny young province women. I know these young women are out of options. They are prostituting themselves out of sense of overwhelming sense of debt to their families (utang na loob). I dont usually say anything because in thirty years time I'll be a fat old guy too (maybe).
Enough already!
Happy mongering
Amavida
I am not one of those old fat guys, I am relatively young at 34 and I like mongering for the sheer fun of it but I see lots of delusional guys who think they are better looking than reality. If you were truly a good looking guy, you wouldn't be flying half way around the world for poontang, you would be getting it for free in your own backyard. Plenty of Pinay no matter where you are in the world. Charm is a relative term in the PI as the girls are sweet but dumb as rocks. Zero challenge to find regular girls Try doing that in Thailand or Jakarta where the girls are hotter and smarter.
Has someone been taking potshots at me when I wasn't here?
In my much earlier post, the one labeled as argumentive, I clearly showed why Amavida's words led me to some assumptions. He never clearly showed me what assumption was false. And I challenge anyone to find a point where I "criticized" this guy. I was just trying to enjoy a good debate.
And then after he provides his weak arguements, he ends up with "we must be jealous". Well, that kind of statement just reinforces some of my "assumptions" which is he targets virgins and then is proud of his, ummm, achievements. And since the ladies detect this, in fact already expect it from the Pinoys, they tell him what he wants to hear. I suspect all that virgin blood that AV spilled was just a monthly period.
And now we hear that he hates "fat old ugly foreigners" who date young Filipina. Since I'm the only one who clarifed things about my appearance, I'll assume that was pointed toward me. I regularly date women 15 years younger than me here in the first world country I live in, so who is making the wrong assumptions?
Anyway, can we get back to conversation about chat girls?
X Man
[QUOTE=Amavida]Against my better judgement Im responding one last time...
You and Xman are making A LOT of assumptions about me & then criticising me based on those assumptions.
Believe it or not the women I date are not naive vulnerable poor girls from the province. ( a subject you both seem to be very knowledgeable about.. ahem) The women I date are sophisticated (by PI standards), educated, financially stable & attractive who live in the big city. They are the ones who have choices.
Do I detect a whiff of jealousy here?
It disgusts me to walk around the phils & see fat ugly old foreigners dragging around tiny young province women. I know these young women are out of options. They are prostituting themselves out of sense of overwhelming sense of debt to their families (utang na loob). I dont usually say anything because in thirty years time I'll be a fat old guy too (maybe).
Enough already!
Happy mongering
Amavida[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=OptimusPrime]I am not one of those old fat guys, I am relatively young at 34 and I like mongering for the sheer fun of it but I see lots of delusional guys who think they are better looking than reality. If you were truly a good looking guy, you wouldn't be flying half way around the world for poontang, you would be getting it for free in your own backyard. Plenty of Pinay no matter where you are in the world. Charm is a relative term in the PI as the girls are sweet but dumb as rocks. Zero challenge to find regular girls Try doing that in Thailand or Jakarta where the girls are hotter and smarter.[/QUOTE]
Once again you're making assumptions about someone you never met & then criticising me based on your assumptions...
Oh behave will you!
Why so grouchy?
BTW I have fucked women in every country of Asia & also in my home country. Since I have a business in PI Im there a lot & so thats where I have most gf's....
Happy mongering
Amavida
[QUOTE=Luvulooongtime]Gentlemen,
Luvulooongtime here. According to my relatives not many girls are virgins anymore. LOL. Even in the province. I scored with a few "nice" girls 22 years and younger and they were not inexperienced; ). So I think this cherry girl debate bit academic. My understanding is that premarital sex is common now. I did go with a virgin to Baguio once, will never do it again, she was nice but frigid, or at least to me; ) My cousins set me up with her because they knew she was "marriageable". Personally, there is no thrill to deflower a young maiden unless she is hot, and she is hot for me. Luvulooongtime
PS. I enjoy reading the moralist arguments of whorists like us. The irony is so?[/QUOTE]
he he he :) the irony is not lost on me either LL!
Happy mongering
Amavida
I went back and read a few posts just in case I had COMPLETELY FORGOTTEN something. Below is what I wrote and then what Amavida wrote. So this is the scenario, he brags about doing virgins and I ask him why he does virgins (while pointing out that I avoid them). He then goes into a little snit fit. Every time I try to debate him on his own quotes and points, he gets a little more illogical with his arguements. And now he's up to underhanded insults.
And LUV, what are you on about when you write: "PS. I enjoy reading the moralist arguments of whorists like us. The irony is so?" The only thing I read here that is even close to some moral "arguement" is the part below which I preceded by asterisks. Is that what you are referring to?
I'm impressed!
X wrote: Neverhtheless Amavida, why you doing virgins? Do you think you're doing them a favor? You seem like a pretty articulate guy, but I understand if you don't want to answer. Or better yet, give the short answer here and the long answer to my pm.
***Somehow I think that teenagers getting it on is the best way for teenagers to lose their virginity and learn about sexuality
If my teen-son was done by a generous middle-aged woman I would worry about his new perspective.
Amavida wrote: First of all you're ASSUMING I set out to shag virgins...
HELLO! does anyone on a dating site ask 'uh by the way are you a virgin?'. No of course not!
Has anyone tried?
CB girl tells me that her profile is "unavailble" because she has dedicated herself to me.
C00549356
I may have told her that I plan to visit the Philippines in December, but I have not made any promises, nor have I asked her to make herself exclusive to me. In fact, I do not have the any intent to visit her in that part of Mindanao.
So, if anyone here has CB subscription, please send her a quick message. I'm sure she'll be polite and respond. Nevertheless, I'd love to see how "unavailable" she is. (common sense, but please be polite....no one knows her situation)
X Man
[QUOTE=X Man]Has anyone tried?
CB girl tells me that her profile is "unavailble" because she has dedicated herself to me.
C00549356
I may have told her that I plan to visit the Philippines in December, but I have not made any promises, nor have I asked her to make herself exclusive to me. In fact, I do not have the any intent to visit her in that part of Mindanao.
So, if anyone here has CB subscription, please send her a quick message. I'm sure she'll be polite and respond. Nevertheless, I'd love to see how "unavailable" she is. (common sense, but please be polite....no one knows her situation)
X Man[/QUOTE]
Hi X Man
Done this and I was nice and polite. Maybe she has found another guy...shock and horror :D
As for the ongoing chat re virgins et al....who cares, each to their pussy type. I like a mix but find the cherries bit too demanding on time and effort at times but still nice and tight :)
My cherries are all CB girls naturally or those I find working in the hotels I stay at or malls.
As for the FR regarding the girls not knowing abiut condoms, getting pregnant, I think that is fair comment IMHO, have had similar chats with ladies and am amazed sometimes. Many also have kids...
Will let you know if C00549356 replies X Man
Relax X, I was NOT taking a shot at you or any one else! I just think the tenor of this whole cat fight is ironic and funny! Egads! Foreign men taking the cherries and advantage of poor innocent pinays! I am shocked! No honorable whorist should do such a thing. LOL. Its all a joke X.
P.S. Just to avoid an attack, I would not personally find a virgin and make promises I knew I could not keep just to be the first one in; ). Its bad form for a gentleman. Besides why go for virgins when you can get regular hotties with minimal effort. P.S. P.S. In order for you gentlemen to properly judge my opinions here is how I describe myself: I have been called handsome and ugly. LOL. I am six-foot tall, athletic build and in terrific shape (I practice evolutionary fitness) and look ten years younger than my actual 48 years. I still have most of my hair. I am a ligjht skinned meztiso. I am a trial lawyer. My face is pocked marked and I have a big nose and I am blind in one eye. Some women in U. S. Think I am hot, some not. Immodestly I would say I am quick witted and can be charming. But when I get off the plane in Aquino airport in Manila I turn into Brad Pitt and Keanu Reeves. LOL. And remember, gentlemen, be she a virgin/good girl, *****, hottie, bakla, shemale, whaterver, like my late uncle the mayor and noted womanizer told me years ago. "They just want your money". LOL. Tally Ho, Gentlemen
Luvulooongtime
Thanks WR,
As for the cherry debate, I meant for it to be an intellectual debate on the merits and demerits of deflowering. :-) It's sad that someone had to take it personally and turn it into a tit for tat exchange.
For the record I have two cherries on my belt in Asia, but neither of them were Filipina.
As for Filipina cherry, I've walked away from several. There was one in Cebu who was 22, and when I told the story to an ex-bar-girl friend, she rolled her eyes and implied "how could you fall for the oldest trick in the book.". I thought about what she said, called the so-called cherry girl, got her into my room and sure enough, she fessed up. Screwed her all night and then spent the next two days with her at Panglao.
Not all is what it seems....
X
[QUOTE=Wicked Roger]Hi X Man
As for the ongoing chat re virgins et al....who cares, each to their pussy type. I like a mix but find the cherries bit too demanding on time and effort at times but still nice and tight :)
My cherries are all CB girls naturally or those I find working in the hotels I stay at or malls.
Will let you know if C00549356 replies X Man[/QUOTE]
Chats in neglige
CB 858273
[QUOTE=X Man]I went back and read a few posts just in case I had COMPLETELY FORGOTTEN something. Below is what I wrote and then what Amavida wrote. So this is the scenario, he brags about doing virgins and I ask him why he does virgins (while pointing out that I avoid them). He then goes into a little snit fit. Every time I try to debate him on his own quotes and points, he gets a little more illogical with his arguements. And now he's up to underhanded insults.
And LUV, what are you on about when you write: "PS. I enjoy reading the moralist arguments of whorists like us. The irony is so?" The only thing I read here that is even close to some moral "arguement" is the part below which I preceded by asterisks. Is that what you are referring to?
I'm impressed!
X wrote: Neverhtheless Amavida, why you doing virgins? Do you think you're doing them a favor? You seem like a pretty articulate guy, but I understand if you don't want to answer. Or better yet, give the short answer here and the long answer to my pm.
***Somehow I think that teenagers getting it on is the best way for teenagers to lose their virginity and learn about sexuality
If my teen-son was done by a generous middle-aged woman I would worry about his new perspective.
Amavida wrote: First of all you're ASSUMING I set out to shag virgins...
HELLO! does anyone on a dating site ask 'uh by the way are you a virgin?'. No of course not![/QUOTE]
Wow... so much anger...
For the record, I visit the Phils to supervise my business activities there every 6 - 8 weeks. Before arriving I arrange to date some girls I have met online via dating web sites. Often we have consensual sex (gasp). Sometimes the girls turn out to be cherry (gasp). I take each case on its merits, sometimes I have consensual sex with a cherry girl (gsap) sometimes not. Depends on if the vibe is right. Certainly dont go looking for cherry girls, but wont knock it back if she really wants it.
Couple of points :
* This is Asia, dont make the mistake of viewing what goes on here the same as your own culture.
* When a Filippina woman decides to lose her cherry status she goes about it with a purpose. I nor any one else has to 'con' their way into their pants. If they decide to do you they will.
* Premarital sex is common in the Phils these days despite the blushing good girl persona that their society still demands.
* Knowledge of contraception is still appallingly low in the Phils. Girls fuck first & ask questions later.
The fact that I did 2 cherry girls on my last visit was not really intended to be a boast, its unusual for me to get laid by a cherry girl & remarkable to be done by 2 in one visit.
We are all brothers in arms here, Im having a good run at the moment, be happy for me ok? :)
Happy mongering
Amavida
And as for your first, third and fourth points, why are you explaining things that are so completely obvious to everyone here? Why do you post in such a condescending way? I've lived most of my adult life in Asia, so I don't need you to offer "culture" lessons.
As for your second point, it sounds exactly like something I just read at Dragonslayer's forum. I don't doubt that it's true. If you'd responded to my first post in a level-headed and forthcoming way, we might have had a meaningful exchange without all the bickering.
And lastly, I would like to get back to the topic of this thread. Here is CB 643386. She looks much better than the picture indicates. This lady stops traffic with plunging necklines and high heals that make her look taller than she already is. She claims to be a virgin, and maybe she is.
[QUOTE=Amavida]Wow... so much anger...
For the record, I visit the Phils to supervise my business activities there every 6 - 8 weeks. Before arriving I arrange to date some girls I have met online via dating web sites. Often we have consensual sex (gasp). Sometimes the girls turn out to be cherry (gasp). I take each case on its merits, sometimes I have consensual sex with a cherry girl (gsap) sometimes not. Depends on if the vibe is right. Certainly dont go looking for cherry girls, but wont knock it back if she really wants it.
Couple of points :
* This is Asia, dont make the mistake of viewing what goes on here the same as your own culture.
* When a Filippina woman decides to lose her cherry status she goes about it with a purpose. I nor any one else has to 'con' their way into their pants. If they decide to do you they will.
* Premarital sex is common in the Phils these days despite the blushing good girl persona that their society still demands.
* Knowledge of contraception is still appallingly low in the Phils. Girls fuck first & ask questions later.
The fact that I did 2 cherry girls on my last visit was not really intended to be a boast, its unusual for me to get laid by a cherry girl & remarkable to be done by 2 in one visit.
We are all brothers in arms here, Im having a good run at the moment, be happy for me ok? :)
Happy mongering
Amavida[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=X Man]And as for your first, third and fourth points, why are you explaining things that are so completely obvious to everyone here? Why do you post in such a condescending way? I've lived most of my adult life in Asia, so I don't need you to offer "culture" lessons.
As for your second point, it sounds exactly like something I just read at Dragonslayer's forum. I don't doubt that it's true. If you'd responded to my first post in a level-headed and forthcoming way, we might have had a meaningful exchange without all the bickering.
And lastly, I would like to get back to the topic of this thread. Here is CB 643386. She looks much better than the picture indicates. This lady stops traffic with plunging necklines and high heals that make her look taller than she already is. She claims to be a virgin, and maybe she is.[/QUOTE]
Xman - peace brother ok?
[QUOTE=X Man]
Here is CB 643386. She looks much better than the picture indicates. This lady stops traffic with plunging necklines and high heals that make her look taller than she already is. She claims to be a virgin, and maybe she is.[/QUOTE]I checked out her profile and this worries me she might be high maintenance? "I need some1 who can takecare of me..Who will spoil me.." Now, if she was offering the other way around....
BB I don't rememer if that was on her profile before I met her. It may have been, she was fairly low on my list of women to see. I didn't have any problems, but l didn't spend much time with her. Nevertheless....
She was telling me she had to lose a few kilos before an upcoming beauty contest. Later she gets a phone call (on her expensive looking phone). It was some guy wanting to buy her a gown for the contest...probably the same guy who bought the phone. In the same conversation (I was trying not to eavesdrop, but we were in my room at the time) she says, "See you next month...." I figured that guy would get the cherry, but when I emailed her months later, I jokingly asked if she was still cherry. She said yes....but who knows.
At about 5'8, and showing lots of cleavage, she was a head turner. I generally like them very slim and/or petite, but I was ready to change my ways...
I took her out to eat in the Malate area and there was nearly a car accident. On the other hand, I didn't have to dodge traffic since most vehicles were slowing down as they approached us. I am not exagerrating! If you've partied around Remedios Circle / Malate church on a weekend you know what I mean by dodging traffic.
In the end we parted ways with only a few kisses and squeezes. She said, "Even if I wasn't cherry you can't have me because I'm on my period." She lifted her fairly short skirt to show me that she had a pad on under her panties. I like classy women! I paid for dinner, drinks and transportation (including hers from Pasay).
After she left, I picked up my 1,500 peso used phone, trasped on over to LA cafe and found someone else.
X
[QUOTE=Bilbo Baggins]I checked out her profile and this worries me she might be high maintenance? "I need some1 who can takecare of me..Who will spoil me.." Now, if she was offering the other way around....[/QUOTE]
As for cherry girls:
I avoid cherry girls, many of them extremely shy and will bring their parents as chaperones. It's just too much trouble, plus I would feel guilty about taking a girl's cherry and not seeing her again.
Posted this in Manila by mistake - tired well had a long day guys and shagging was not involved :(
Try this one
C00854483 Michelle, quick tells you she is a ACM cam girl, and at least is up front about things.
Had one reply telling me that the CB girls were ladyboys/TVs etc - but X Man, Amavida and others (incl me) can vouch that is not the case
Oh, it get's more interesting BB! I found a copy of her original profile: "Hi im tyra, 21yrs of age...loking a godfearing man, know how to respect the woman, caring loving, affectionate, the guy can accept my short coming as a person..."
But then I found another profile of her (C00658077). On this one I don't have the original text. The pictures are different and the age is two years younger. So, when I met her she was supposedly 19. After we got to my room she told me she was a virgin (and I began my exit strategy). But before she left it was revealed (literally) that she was on her period.
Hmmm, I wonder if she had some elaborate "pay for my virginity" scam going on. She must have been sorely disappointed if that was the case.
CB will delete her if I point out this discrepency. I won't do that. Although the evening was sexless, I enjoyed her company.
I don't know if her phone number still works, but pm me if you want the number.
X
[QUOTE=Bilbo Baggins]I checked out her profile and this worries me she might be high maintenance? "I need some1 who can takecare of me..Who will spoil me.." Now, if she was offering the other way around....[/QUOTE]
X Man, I checked out both profiles and the message is identical but Bday is 2 years apart she has updated both profiles on the same day and last activity for both is 10/31/07 and she states "Im tired of play, im sincere here." you have to wonder about that.
I always suspect any lady that states no playing, players, games etc as one who is a player herself. The innocent ones don't mention it. I got a bit excited reading about the lifting the dress story to show you her situation. I am a leg man and nice legs on a pair of panties....... ahh wishful thinking. I read once about a monger in a room with a virgin friend who dropped her panties so he could see it was true. I wish I could have seen that I don't think I have ever seen a virgin pussy before.
Thanks for the offer I am trying to avoid Manila this next trip I have too many inlaws there and my relationship with my ex is not the best.
Check this one out guys...C00818784
I sent her one message and by the time I checked my messages she had sent me two replies, see below. One containing her phone number as you can see I've x'ed it out as the rules here do not allow and it would not be right to post anyway. I told her that I plan to be in the Philippines by November 20th, see how she skillfully is also going to be there. Pretty sure she is already there in one of the bars or working web cam....or maybe not as she certainly lacks some tact here. Moves way to fast for a girl who should know how to pull cash out of a man. Left the misspellings in place.
text below:
2nd message: hi again xxxxx hope that we can meet soon im work hard here hope to hear your voice in november 20 im going to manila for work there in luandry home its big salary than here its 3, 000pesos my monthly there... compare here ist only 3 hundred a week its so hard so muchhhhhhhhhh mauhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh be safe there ok
1st message: hi xxxxx sorry is only i can read your message coz its only i can back in cafe you know ive been in hospital for my ulcer... but im ok now
im going to go back my work in laundry in every 3 houses so that can survive then can eat in 3 times in 1 day hows your life now.. can you call to me this no plzzzzz...+63xxxxxxxxxx.... i really like you too so muchhhhhhhh you rae so hondsome man... be sfae there ok im still really single too i live my parents home. i have 2 sister and 1 brother my father leaves us
[QUOTE=X Man]Has anyone tried?
CB girl tells me that her profile is "unavailble" because she has dedicated herself to me.
C00549356
I may have told her that I plan to visit the Philippines in December, but I have not made any promises, nor have I asked her to make herself exclusive to me. In fact, I do not have the any intent to visit her in that part of Mindanao.
So, if anyone here has CB subscription, please send her a quick message. I'm sure she'll be polite and respond. Nevertheless, I'd love to see how "unavailable" she is. (common sense, but please be polite....no one knows her situation)
X Man[/QUOTE]
Hi X,
As a service to the community I sent a 'smile' to her.
Nothing more than that. (not an email)
She seems to have changed her name from 'Merly' to 'Flower'.
Her profile was updated 10/31/2007.
I have obscured her personal data in the email for privacy reasons.
*Sigh* sorry man, see her response to me verbatim below.
As you can see the girls lie their asses off to guys.
Kinda takes the shine off the dating site romances does'nt it?
Happy mongering
Amavida
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Response...
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On 10/31/2007 10:12 - HST(12 hours ago) Flower Wrote:
helllooooooooo
thanks for the email u sent to me..it makes me so happyyyyyyy! yeah i would like to know you more and hope to met you if u really come..
you might wonder why my profile says im not longer available? yes i put that was too long ago and i didnt get to change it...you want me to change it? hehe...welll i am single and very much looking for such a lovable man who would accept me of who i am and what i am...
we can chat if u like so we can know more each other until we met...
my real name is daisylyn ******, i live in **** BRGY.SAN JUAN SURIGAO CITY PHIL 8400..
contact number : 639*********
about my work? yes i just fnished my college degree this month.i took up business administration major in banking and finance...
thats why now im ready to have my own family..
im serious woman who wants faithful and responsible husband too....are you that one?
yes im also would like to know you..this is all i can say up to now.. i am looking for your response..
take care
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Enquiry...
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On 10/29/2007 02:30 - HST(2 days ago) You Wrote:
Hi Merly,
Wow! I would love to get to know you more. I’m really interested in what you’ve written on your profile and can’t wait to hear from you!
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BB, my apologies as I didn't have my camera out at any time during the episode, which is rather unsuaul for me. It was probably battery recharching time. I do remember regretting not having some pics of Tyra.
I'll disagree with you slightly...I suspect some of the new ladies at cb just copy what their friends / relatives have written. If you immediately ignore anyone who says "no players" you'll cancel out most of the ladies at CB.
X
[QUOTE=Bilbo Baggins]
I always suspect any lady that states no playing, players, games etc as one who is a player herself. The innocent ones don't mention it. I got a bit excited reading about the lifting the dress story to show you her situation. I am a leg man and nice legs on a pair of panties....... .[/QUOTE]
Laundry girl, fish seller, natural disaster, broken family...yes, classics. Thanks for the post FF.
One lady (stunning) asked me for a small loan so that she could buy fish to sell at the market. Of course she was up selling fish early in the morning and sold out, which is why she spent most of the day in an Internet Cafe. Hilarious.
Does anyone remember the terrible mudslide that buried an entire village in Leyte? If you lost your home, all your possesions and source of income, because your entire neighborhood was covered by ten feet of typhoon inspired mud, killing hundreds of people, and you were now in some disaster shelter, what would you do? Of course! You'd go to the Internet cafe, pay the fee, and chat with prospective suitors. Sickening.
FF suggests a lack of tact/sophistication with the lady he has introduced. It might be worth chasing this one. I suspect SOMEONE is pushing her into this and she may be just going with the flow. Make it your flow, not the greedy friend/ relative's flow. We all get manipulated in different ways, and she may like your way better. Just don't marry her!
And to repeat something I've said before, but pretty sure it's getting ignored, don't SLAM a girl who looks like a scammer. You'll just be teaching them how to perfect their game. Stay friends, play along and see how things pan out. If she's new to scamming, she may very well be desperate...and, as sad as it is, that's a good thing for you. And if you're reading here, you'll know enough to avoid the scam, but create benefits for both you and her.
[QUOTE=Frequent Flier]Check this one out guys...C00818784
I sent her one message and by the time I checked my messages she had sent me two replies, see below. One containing her phone number as you can see I've x'ed it out as the rules here do not allow and it would not be right to post anyway. I told her that I plan to be in the Philippines by November 20th, see how she skillfully is also going to be there. Pretty sure she is already there in one of the bars or working web cam....or maybe not as she certainly lacks some tact here. Moves way to fast for a girl who should know how to pull cash out of a man. Left the misspellings in place.
text below:
2nd message: hi again xxxxx hope that we can meet soon im work hard here hope to hear your voice in november 20 im going to manila for work there in luandry home its big salary than here its 3, 000pesos my monthly there... compare here ist only 3 hundred a week its so hard so muchhhhhhhhhh mauhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh be safe there ok
1st message: hi xxxxx sorry is only i can read your message coz its only i can back in cafe you know ive been in hospital for my ulcer... but im ok now
im going to go back my work in laundry in every 3 houses so that can survive then can eat in 3 times in 1 day hows your life now.. can you call to me this no plzzzzz...+63xxxxxxxxxx.... i really like you too so muchhhhhhhh you rae so hondsome man... be sfae there ok im still really single too i live my parents home. i have 2 sister and 1 brother my father leaves us[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Amavida]Hi X,
As a service to the community I sent a 'smile' to her.
Nothing more than that. (not an email)
She seems to have changed her name from 'Merly' to 'Flower'.
Her profile was updated 10/31/2007.
I have obscured her personal data in the email for privacy reasons.
===[/QUOTE]
Amavida
She did same to me same reply etc so I now have her YM address and will chat with her and check her stories and see if they match your. I did not get the text )but like you have her mobile) as I did not SMS her.
Well, it is something to do while in the office...
Wow, she gave you more info from your "smile" than I got from a proper message. I wonder what I'm doing wrong? Oh, let me guess, your profile says that you have your own business and/or you regularly come to the Philippines.
That was a rhetorical question... no need to answer it.
Thanks for the interesting posts everyone. This is exactly what I had in mind when I asked Jackson to creat the Chat Room thread. I figured the ladies in the net cafes are sharing notes, why shouldn't we?
But so far we have only CB stuff. Can we hear from you guys at Filipina Heart and other sites?
X Man
[QUOTE=Amavida]Hi X,
As a service to the community I sent a 'smile' to her.
Nothing more than that. (not an email)
She seems to have changed her name from 'Merly' to 'Flower'.
Her profile was updated 10/31/2007.
I have obscured her personal data in the email for privacy reasons.
*Sigh* sorry man, see her response to me verbatim below.
As you can see the girls lie their asses off to guys.
Kinda takes the shine off the dating site romances does'nt it?
Happy mongering
Amavida
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Response...
===============================================
On 10/31/2007 10:12 - HST(12 hours ago) Flower Wrote:
helllooooooooo
thanks for the email u sent to me..it makes me so happyyyyyyy! yeah i would like to know you more and hope to met you if u really come..
you might wonder why my profile says im not longer available? yes i put that was too long ago and i didnt get to change it...you want me to change it? hehe...welll i am single and very much looking for such a lovable man who would accept me of who i am and what i am...
we can chat if u like so we can know more each other until we met...
my real name is daisylyn ******, i live in **** BRGY.SAN JUAN SURIGAO CITY PHIL 8400..
contact number : 639*********
about my work? yes i just fnished my college degree this month.i took up business administration major in banking and finance...
thats why now im ready to have my own family..
im serious woman who wants faithful and responsible husband too....are you that one?
yes im also would like to know you..this is all i can say up to now.. i am looking for your response..
take care
===============================================
Enquiry...
===============================================
On 10/29/2007 02:30 - HST(2 days ago) You Wrote:
Hi Merly,
Wow! I would love to get to know you more. I’m really interested in what you’ve written on your profile and can’t wait to hear from you!
===============================================[/QUOTE]
Gentlmen,
I land in Manila on November 28. I have been communicating with half a dozen FH ladies. I will report back my experiences with them during my 23 day *****tour when I get back to California. I am calling it mission luvulooongtime. I have alledged nursing students and "models" lined up. Tally Ho.
Luvuloongtime
[QUOTE=Wicked Roger]Posted this in Manila by mistake - tired well had a long day guys and shagging was not involved :(
Try this one
C00854483 Michelle, quick tells you she is a ACM cam girl, and at least is up front about things.
Had one reply telling me that the CB girls were ladyboys/TVs etc - but X Man, Amavida and others (incl me) can vouch that is not the case[/QUOTE]
Hey WR and others interested,
Your girl C00854483 is also C00852175 on CB, but goes by Mary Jane. very cute and also told me right away that she is on ACM.
She also told me that she would do yahoo cam for me for $30.00. Not sure for how long or what it included as i declined the offer. Wanted me to WU or Xoom her money.
On the C00854483 profile there is definitely a different girl in pic 3, not sure about pic 1, but pic 2 is the same girl as in all three pics in C00852175.
[QUOTE=X Man]Thanks for the interesting posts everyone. This is exactly what I had in mind when I asked Jackson to creat the Chat Room thread. I figured the ladies in the net cafes are sharing notes, why shouldn't we?
But so far we have only CB stuff. Can we hear from you guys at Filipina Heart and other sites?
X Man
[/QUOTE]
X-Man is right about this being a very valuable section for us. Congrats for the idea.
Hi all,
After reading you all talking about CB I decided to have a look at their web site but one thing I could not find was their prices and what you pay for.
Another site I look at from time to time but yet to sign up with is asiankisses. De, at least you can find out what you are paying for on their site.
Lastly do you make up a profile and see if you get any bites or do you sent out some messages and see if you get any replies.
I am not looking to sign up anytime soon but it is something that I may look at at a later date, I have one girl in Manila waiting for me to visit her. I met her through a friend not a dating site. Thinking of having some fun with her before looking else where.
Oh! I tried to search " price of CB" but that didn't get me anywhere.
[QUOTE=Frequent Flier]Hey WR and others interested,
Your girl C00854483 is also C00852175 on CB, but goes by Mary Jane. very cute and also told me right away that she is on ACM.
She also told me that she would do yahoo cam for me for $30.00. Not sure for how long or what it included as i declined the offer. Wanted me to WU or Xoom her money.
On the C00854483 profile there is definitely a different girl in pic 3, not sure about pic 1, but pic 2 is the same girl as in all three pics in C00852175.
[/QUOTE]
FF
You are right and she asked me for $30 as I offered up $20 :) - am a cheap charlie when I cam get away with it!
I also had a cam session with her as I like to see them and then check against the profile, she was not as pretty as the pictures (maybe lack of make up?), she said she was a cherry as well so when I asked about toys and fingers for the private cam she wanted me to help her with, she was somewhat lost for words etc. Especially when I said I wanted to see them deep inside her...well you have to ask :)
After sometime of 'researching' CB you can spot the ones who will ask for cash quite quickly
Several stuffed dolls and a bed in the background come to mind.
I did have one very weird one with a gal in a dark room, and a guy mulling around in the background...possibly not realizing his fat sleazy ass was on the cam.
[QUOTE=Wicked Roger]FF
After sometime of 'researching' CB you can spot the ones who will ask for cash quite quickly[/QUOTE]
Would X or somebody please take this one off my hands?
I have my hands totally full with GF's in Manila.
C00549356, Originally mentioned by Xman.
Receiving txt's & email's daily from her.
This chick is begging for it!
Please! Somebody go down there & drill here!!
"Im looking forward in meeting you soon when you
come over here....and i am willing to know you more as
you like.."
I'd say that as clear as any asian girl is gonna be...
Happy mongering or as LL would say Tally Ho gentleman!
Amavida
Hello,
Sorry, but I have one question:
Any expieriences with this dating site: [url]www.cebuanas.com[/url]
Thank you,
anle
[QUOTE=Amavida]
I'd say that as clear as any asian girl is gonna be...
Amavida[/QUOTE]
I think some can be clearer. This is a really beautiful lady I am keeping for myself although I am older than her preferred age range I think I'll get a face lift just for her. lol
[QUOTE=really beautiful lady]...am conservative with a slight touch of being liberated!!!!! hope u can read between the lines!!!! im conservative in the public but when it comes inside the room and just me and my lover..well..well... im such a *****! lol. u can do whatever u like as long as it doesnt insult, embarrass me. same goes for me. i will always consider my love ones feelings and even sacrifice to concede to his wishes if i must!!! give and take i guess.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Bob Down]Lastly do you make up a profile and see if you get any bites or do you sent out some messages and see if you get any replies.[/QUOTE]Bob, I think you could say anything in your profile and you would get bites. I am thinking of saying "I am a triple axe murder escaped from jail looking for a temporary hideout in the Philippines" just to see what replies I get. lol Now I am not a paying member anymore I have put up "I'm not interested just looking" in my profile and I get the chat windows opening all the time and emails saying they are interested in what I said on my profile, go figure?
I just go on and do a search on my preferences and chat windows pop up all the time. You can choose to decline or chat and you can preview their profile before replying or you can see who is online and initiated chat or message etc. You really need your wits about you these women can mess with your mind and wallet something awful.
It costs 24.95 a month and gets cheaper the more time you purchase 12 months works out at $9.99 a month. I think you have to be a member to see the prices.
BB,
Thanks for the info, is seems a bit odd that you have to become a member before they tell you that you have to pay to use their web site. CB's does say it is free to join.
One thing that has stopped me from becoming a member of any dating site is working your way through the bullshit to find a gem, I'm just going on what I have read here.
But then again, reading what has been written here that's half the fun of these sites.
Thanks again.
Ha, ha, had same experience with BB. I clearly wrote that I'm not a memeber and could not accept chat. I still got lots of chat windows opening. On the other hand, I once had my email in the add (against the rules), but just changed the spelling of yahoo - but only one lady picked up on it. Also, a lot of the ladies don't realize that guys have to pay for the service.
As for Bob Downs inquiry, I do things a lot like BB, but I'll add a few things. But first, Bob, are you seriously looking for a wife or just hoping to have a few dates while on holiday?
I only subscribe just before my trip. Even if only one month subscription, you can get many contacts. At CB you can send up to 100 messages a day - and I actually reached my limit twice. I typed up a nice simple message and pasted them into the message window. I personalized the ones that I thought needed personalizing.
I try to get their phone numbers and emails as soon as possible. An old style mail address isn't a bad idea either. Sending and old fashioned letter or postcard will really get her attention. Do this only with ones you think are special.
X Man
[QUOTE=Bilbo Baggins]Bob, I think you could say anything in your profile and you would get bites. I am thinking of saying "I am a triple axe murder escaped from jail looking for a temporary hideout in the Philippines" just to see what replies I get. lol .[/QUOTE]
X Man, As I wrote in my first report I was just interesting in maybe joining a dating site at a later date. I was looking for some info as to the best way to use these sites. As for paying a girl to take her clothes off in a web cam, no thank you I can just go to a local bar at home and watch a girl take her clothes off for the cost of buying myself a beer or two.
I am going to Thailand next week to meet a couple of girls, and hoping I will be back in the Philippines maybe next May. I already have some tour guides lined up for my May trip, just thinking forward to the trip after that.
As for marriage, no plans to ever get married. Girlfriend? Maybe one day but not any time soon. I guess I have to decide if I want a Thai girl or a Filipina girlfriend I guess.
After receiving a lot of emails, smiles in CB I decide to try for one month just for fun and see what will happen.
Many dogs there, some ladyboys, but I also find some gud looking ones.
I hope I can find some semi proffessionals, so my dates might get more exciting :D.
I will only contact gurls in Manila area, cause enough gurls in AC and by this time I wont travel to cebu mindanao or other places in the Phils.
As of now I got 5 models/gurls from this site which I will keep in my email for contacts and I report my experience here when I meet them up.
I be living in PI soon and while workin in Manila you need some gurls for past time, you cant allways go to the bars, this is getting also expensive sometimes, but as I remember when I lived there last time som eyears ago. gurls came after "work" to my place :D...I was staying in Burgos :D
One of my fren who alo live in Burgos was a no no no guest for the bars, since he only go there to update his cellphone numbers , ahahahha....he got banned 1/ 2 year.
If they like you, you wont pay nothing, or just meals etc like GFE and the gud thing is, if u tired of them u just say bye bye and move on to the next gurl, but be polite, filipinas can be extremly jellous :D
How I miss the place, six weeks to go then Im back..
Happy hunting!!
Blink
CB is free to join but all you can do is look no communicating and when that honey bounces up on the screen who wants to chat with you its tempting to buy time. What I'm doing now is searching for suitable ladies in their data base and adding them to my friends you can add 100 ladies so far I'm up to 53. When I'm ready to go there I'll get in touch with some of them and see what happens.
I was going to warn you about this lady but CB got in first someone must have dobbed her in her CB name was Rhiane.
[QUOTE]Sorry, the ID Code
or Chat Name you
searched for:
C00838531
has been
Deactivated for
Scamming or Spamming.
Currently there is no
additional information
for this client.[/QUOTE]I have chatted with her a few times and she would have to be the most boring lady I could chat with does not give any information away most of her answers to questions are, yes, no, ok, why. All that I found out from her is she lives with her aunt and she wishes to finish her studies and would like to visit Boracay etc but would have a chaperon. I spoke to her again today on yahoo and saw her on cam and asked why she looked so serious not one smile she was all business and looking at several different spots on the monitor. When I chat I can tell if a lady is into me or using me for something else or so I kid myself lol
BB: you look very serious
emigaer onifur: yeah problematic
BB: worried?
emigaer onifur: yeah
BB: whats your problem that you cant smile?
emigaer onifur: My mom
emigaer onifur: is asking me to send money for her medicine
BB: where is she?
emigaer onifur: in the province
BB: ok
emigaer onifur: ok
Then there is 5 minutes of silence between us and she signs out no good bye or anything.
She seems to work on getting the guy to ask and feel sorry for her unlike a lot of other ladies who poor out a sad story. I see her online a lot and today she was online for hours so there goes the medicine money down the internet gurgler. The ones into you will give you the time the scammers move on if you don't bite after a while.
[B]True to X Man's dictum [U]I don't let on that I know they are scamming [/U] I am still nice and boring to them and hope they give up or I just avoid them online.[/B] We don't want them learning to be better scammers by finding out what doesn't work!
[QUOTE=Bilbo Baggins]I was going to warn you about this lady but CB got in first someone must have dobbed her in her CB name was Rhiane.
[B]True to X Man's dictum [U]I don't let on that I know they are scamming [/U] I am still nice and boring to them and hope they give up or I just avoid them online.[/B] We don't want them learning to be better scammers by finding out what doesn't work![/QUOTE]
All I do when asked how is your search going (which I do get asked as I ask same question to them first) I say :not very well as most of the ladies ask me for cash/money and that means I stop chatting".
This does tend to rule quite a few very quickly.....:)
[QUOTE=X Man]Oh, it get's more interesting BB! I found a copy of her original profile: "Hi im tyra, 21yrs of age...loking a godfearing man, know how to respect the woman, caring loving, affectionate, the guy can accept my short coming as a person..."
But then I found another profile of her (C00658077). On this one I don't have the original text. The pictures are different and the age is two years younger. So, when I met her she was supposedly 19. After we got to my room she told me she was a virgin (and I began my exit strategy). But before she left it was revealed (literally) that she was on her period.
X[/QUOTE]I found her on CB. She's cute. Would you recommend her for a GFE?
The racket is run by her 'Uncle Manny'. He is the one you are talking with online. He is the one who is desperate to line up a meeting with you and Via and He goes along 'innocently' as chaperone. You will find that he does all the talking & is desperate to get you to sink money into some apartment building. She just sits there and looks shy.
The same story is given to every guy.
They are after your MONEY.
In my time in the Phils I have learned that these kind of operations where a guy is using a female relatives persona online are more common than commonly known.
AVOID.
This is a racket.
Hope you all benefit from this info.
Happy mongering.
Amavida.
[quote=amavida]the racket is run by her 'uncle manny'. he is the one you are talking with online. he is the one who is desperate to line up a meeting with you and via and he goes along 'innocently' as chaperone. you will find that he does all the talking & is desperate to get you to sink money into some apartment building. she just sits there and looks shy.
the same story is given to every guy.
they are after your money.
in my time in the phils i have learned that these kind of operations where a guy is using a female relatives persona online are more common than commonly known.
avoid.
this is a racket.
hope you all benefit from this info.
happy mongering.
amavida.[/quote]
she looks young (****).
now, did you ask "uncle money" to chat you naked? :d lol....
selling real estate on cb, this site becomes more and more interesting to me hahahaha...
seriously, to sell you a share realestate would be probably the really most harmless thing which i would think now.
i rather picture she in ur room and after a while some big guys knock on ur door, claiming their are her brothers or boyfriends and threatening you to get the cops cause you with a minor... :d
happy hunting and heads up :d
blink
Amavida, this is a great post. This could keep one of us out of some serious trouble financially or maybe even physically. If we let Uncle Manny show up unawares and we laugh at his nonsense who knows what his next move might be? Valuable information.
Also. Xman. Great advice on not letting the scammers know what they're doing wrong. I used to laugh at them and ask them how stupid did they think we were? After reading your post I stopped clueing them into the fact that something they were doing wasn't working.
This needs to be repeated every once in a while so new readers are also on board with this.
Good work, lads!
Bopalula
[quote=blink157]she looks young (****).
now, did you ask "uncle money" to chat you naked? :d lol....
selling real estate on cb, this site becomes more and more interesting to me hahahaha...
seriously, to sell you a share realestate would be probably the really most harmless thing which i would think now.
i rather picture she in ur room and after a while some big guys knock on ur door, claiming their are her brothers or boyfriends and threatening you to get the cops cause you with a minor... :d
happy hunting and heads up :d
blink[/quote]
in this case (thank fully) it was'nt like that.
btw the building purchase invloves marrying the niece because of course foreigners cant own much there. uncle manny was shocked at how much i knew about these laws & ways around them so his motivation to marry me off to via wilted fast hehehehe :)
she is the passive partner. does not always go along with script.
snuck in to my hotel & popped her cherry on me & then went to ground because she is terrified the uncle (& parents will find out).
happy mongering
amavida
WR, I have mixed feelings about your strategy. Most of the scammers are probably doing only that and therefore aren't worth your time. Unfortunately, those types are increasing. I had a very involved "virtual" relationship with a very intelligent, middle class lady from GSC who told me some of her friends had quit their jobs in order to work the chat/scam business.
Nevertheless, a woman who is desperate or of low moral character suits me just fine. In fact I asked CB to creat a kind of pergatory for those who break the rules. Those are exactly the women I'd like to meet on my next trip!
There was one CB lady from Davao that I had contacted. I was in Cebu and found her in the chat section. We chatted and I asked for her phone number...then called her. She struck me as a complete idiot on a few different levels...the biggest being that she didn't know who was calling her..even though I called her immediately after receiving her phone number.
In Davao we met and had food at the Gasiano mall food court, although her cousin / "chaperone" recommended some expensive seafood place. (note: I later learned that the chaperone had previously met a Western guy and he had treated her well, and she was likely encouraging my new friend to find some good treatment as well)
Chaperone..., then walking down some dodgy slum pathways, thru some maze of muddy paths and glaring stares, to meet the extended family, including the uncle who had been a "boxer" and the toothless granny. Then back to meet the chubby sweaty aunt who worked as a technician at an ISP provider (free Internet!).
Wow, what a day. I told the lass I was wanted to go pick up my laundry and would she like to come with me. She came...and not to much later we both came in my Casa Leticial hotel room. About six hours from meeting to bedroom fun. Total GFE thereafter, although she always had to come with the chaperone and be home by 10pm. Good girl...or so I thought. Oh, the chaperone would say her "hello" and then she liklely went back to the ISP place to work the chat lines while I had my way with the petite cutey.
I was smitten, but as soon as I got back home whe started trying to scam me. God bless the little sluut. The moral of the story (if anyone is still reading) is that scammers want something from you, and you want something from them....and chaperones / meeting the family can sometimes be a good thing.
I still remember the last night in Davao...she seemed so unsettled. I thought it was because she was sad to see me go. I realized later, she just wanted to go and was wanting her handout.
X Man
[QUOTE=Wicked Roger]All I do when asked how is your search going (which I do get asked as I ask same question to them first) I say :not very well as most of the ladies ask me for cash/money and that means I stop chatting".
This does tend to rule quite a few very quickly.....:)[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=X Man]WR, I have mixed feelings about your strategy. Most of the scammers are probably doing only that and therefore aren't worth your time. Unfortunately, those types are increasing.
The moral of the story (if anyone is still reading) is that scammers want something from you, and you want something from them....and chaperones / meeting the family can sometimes be a good thing.
I still remember the last night in Davao...she seemed so unsettled. I thought it was because she was sad to see me go. I realized later, she just wanted to go and was wanting her handout.
X Man[/QUOTE]
XM
True it does not always work and I do waste some time but its fun and passes the day when the office is quiet
I agree about the chaperones etc as they can be sexy and better than the CB girl. Meeting the family is fine as long as you have the patience, time and of cousre, you get the 'reward' at the end :)
Cherry blossom C00794114
It didn't take long for this little beauty to snag a guy.
C00852714 Looks like a cam girl to me.
On a different note....
Received an email from my former EDSA bed partner now in a Western country. Her man insists on a "joint" account and she doesn't like it. Also, she helps pay for the house, but her name isn't on it.
Poor thing. I wonder when she'll take her next vacation to PI.
X
Date in Asia is free and you can send messages etc. Had some cracking results but beware the ladyboys.
[QUOTE]Im simple lady, loving person, honest, caring, friendly and most of all " God Fearing". [B] I love to cook but I dont know how to cook but if thiers "someone" willing to teach me how to cook, I will love it. [/B] I`m fun of reading magazines, watching foriegn movies and [B]entertaining people especially the foriegn one................[/B][/QUOTE] I always scratch my head when I read these profiles, a good cook is a very important quality in a woman. My ex was a good cook and now that I cook for myself I miss her cooking almost as much as the sex. Now unless I am misreading this and its code for something else I am going to give her a miss.
[QUOTE=Bilbo Baggins]I always scratch my head when I read these profiles, a good cook is a very important quality in a woman. My ex was a good cook and now that I cook for myself I miss her cooking almost as much as the sex. Now unless I am misreading this and its code for something else I am going to give her a miss.[/QUOTE]I guess it comes down to what her definition of "cooking" is.
Slim
I Spent Time In Angles City About Five Weeks Ago. Since Angeles Is A Mecca For All Philippinas Who Enjoy The Hospitality Form Of Endevers. I Thought The Girls From Leyte Seemed Especially Good Looking Or My Whisky Goggles Were In Full Functioning Mode. Any Way, Has Anyone Visited Leyte? If So, A Little Information. Thanks. "ttriumph48"
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Hi Ttriumph48,
I sincerely appreciate your contributions to the forum, but...
[red][u]Would you please refrain from capitalizing the first letter of EVERY word in your reports![/u][/red]
It's difficult to read, it's time consuming to fix, and it takes you more work to write like that.
On behalf of myself and your fellow Forum Members: [i]Thank You![/i]
Jackson[/blue]
[QUOTE=Stephen Olson]I want to know where is the best place in the world to find a wife who is young and virginal, willing to become impregnated and brought back to Canada to settle?[/QUOTE]Theres plenty of filipinas working in Canada, always check your own backyard first.
[QUOTE=Ttriumph48]I Spent Time In Angles City About Five Weeks Ago. Since Angeles Is A Mecca For All Philippinas Who Enjoy The Hospitality Form Of Endevers. I Thought The Girls From Leyte Seemed Especially Good Looking Or My Whisky Goggles Were In Full Functioning Mode. Any Way, Has Anyone Visited Leyte? If So, A Little Information. Thanks. "ttriumph48"
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Hi Ttriumph48,
I sincerely appreciate your contributions to the forum, but...
[red][u]Would you please refrain from capitalizing the first letter of EVERY word in your reports![/u][/red]
It's difficult to read, it's time consuming to fix, and it takes you more work to write like that.
On behalf of myself and your fellow Forum Members: [i]Thank You![/i]
Jackson[/blue][/QUOTE]
I've been to Leyte, most the good looking girls between 18-22 were in AC or Manila working.
Bud
[QUOTE=Neon Noodle]Theres plenty of filipinas working in Canada, always check your own backyard first.[/QUOTE]You could get 1 if they're in your same age category. Can't see it being like finding 1 in Phils. I mean, do you think you could get the 22 year old hottie down the street if your 50? Doubt it.
Let me guess...you couldn't find any young women so you started hitting on the middle aged ones... They told you to fk off, you broke down in tears and said, "I just want a piece...".
These older women felt sorry for you, apologized, and explained, "my daughter is in AC".
Thank you for your scholarly research into the demographic patterns of young Leyte women.
X
This thread is "chat rooms and pen pals". Could we please try to stay focused
[QUOTE=Mongering1]I've been to Leyte, most the good looking girls between 18-22 were in AC or Manila working.
Bud[/QUOTE]
Oh, not my type at all...
C00731966
Never been to Angeles( have been to PI, Manila, Subai etc..) planned this trip to go to Angeles to monger and just go back to work. Here is the dilemma. I have now met an educated beautiful Filipina from Cebu online who is expecting me to visit her. I got three days. Also have a possible business venture in Cebu? Any suggestions?
[QUOTE=Bpd81]Never been to Angeles( have been to PI, Manila, Subai etc..) planned this trip to go to Angeles to monger and just go back to work. Here is the dilemma. I have now met an educated beautiful Filipina from Cebu online who is expecting me to visit her. I got three days. Also have a possible business venture in Cebu? Any suggestions?[/QUOTE]There is a direct flight from Cebu to Clark (airport in AC) takes about 1 hour. Therefore, you can go to Cebu, take care of business and then go to AC.
Good luck.
[QUOTE=X Man]Oh, not my type at all...
C00731966[/QUOTE]
I chatted with her a while ago seemed like a nice girl studying nursing, I thought she was a ladyboy I did ask her if she was a male she insisted she was 100% female and didn't take offense, Zamboanga City is a bit far for my liking.
Yes, looks a bit male to me. Maybe I was wrong.
But if you thought it was a ladyboy, why are you chatting with it? You have me worried BB! Oh, just for research purposes???
X
[QUOTE=Bilbo Baggins]I chatted with her a while ago seemed like a nice girl studying nursing, I thought she was a ladyboy I did ask her if she was a male she insisted she was 100% female and didn't take offense, Zamboanga City is a bit far for my liking.[/QUOTE]
Anyone ever try ACC, asiancybercams? It's a site like ABC. Has a lot of bells and whistles but not many girls online and very few dudes logging in, maybe a good thing? Is there a listing someplace of the different chat sites catering to us Asian lovers? I mean real links to unique sites, not 20 different named sites that all lead to ABC or the like like you get if you google search for them.
I haven't posted much in this section before and would just like to chime in my opinions in general in regards to the posts I've read. It has been pointed out but I want to clarify it, sites like ACC, ABC, ect are NOT dating sites. The girls working there range from province girls to hard core pro bar girls and both usually have some moneyko and or a pinoy bf already.
CB and the like are the same as far as the range of girls. The main thing I want to stress is, an inoccent province girl will most likely not be able to even be on the internet in the first place sincce she will have about a 3rd grade education and very little English skills and will have to travel to even get to an internet cafe. So, if the girl is online at all, even just YM, she is already tainted as far as her knowlege on how to scam a porigner. Sure you might find a gem that is for real, but 99% of any Filipina online is looking for a fiance' visa and or a moneyko.
I did post someplace on some site about how if the girl is online she is chatting millions of dudes potentially. So, 3 billion dudes in the world vs thousands of Filipinas, do the math, not good odds. I've been tasked to actually locate a girl to see if she is being good, of the few dozen or so times I've done this for an online buddy ALL of the girls where willing to go with me. Didn't make a difference her status with the dude, chatmate, gf, fiance', or wife.
Bud
OK, I will share a little story about my last ex gf. Met her on 2mathcu. She was one of the helps there. She was 22 years old, exotic, pefect ass, college degree, and still a virgin (I used to have a pic of the proof). Thought I hit the jackpot since at the time I was looking for a wife to bring back to USA.
Long story short, she fucked me over more than any girl in my life, including my first exwife! She was/is a habitual liar and simply could not be trusted. Not sure if she fucked around but she did fuck up around a million peso business I tried to start, flower shop (her pamily are florists and she has more than a few working in the high end shops like Shangri La)/internet cafe/cantina.
The outcome of this, I ended up with my girl I have now for almost 3 years. She has a bit of college, ex bar girl, and is a stunner by all accounts. Took her out of La Pasha after my break up with 2matchu girl and we been together since. I took her for her looks only. I asked a waitress friend to find me the best looking girl that is not cherry, not on mens, and will go with me. My motive was to show off a hottie on an upcoming trip to Puerto Galera. Call it love or just me being scared of not finding better, I ended quitting my job, selling my house in Las Vegas and everything in it!
About my current gf: Well she is as perfect as I could ever imagine. Any time, place, sexual act, I want 24/7 and she enjoys another girl occasionally joining us. And she has no problem as far as my almost daily Perimeter barhops. Yeah, I'm just bragging now!
Bud
Dont'cha just love all the fakes & scammers on Cherry Blossoms?
Take a look at these two profiles.
C00834007 & C00878576
Almost identical profiles but slightly different details as far as date of birth etc goes. Notice the second picture in each profile? Same girl...
I doubt this is a real person, based on my hard won experiences of CB I'd say its yet another scammer, probably male running these 'personas'.
you may ask how did I find these? Certainly not by looking. I just noticed over time the same faces popping up on people who have viewed my profile
Happy mongering
Amavida
Thanks for the story. Can you post the pic of the 2matchu devil?
I joined that site when it was still free. I don't recommend expecting much from that site LT since it's centered in AC and many of the ladies are transient...both p4p, and other workers. Many of the hotties I had lined up weren't there when I arrived. I eventually met three.
One was petite and hot ex dancer who said she'd been hurt before and declined to do the dirty deed. My mistake though, I had left out my girl contact info and no doubt she took a look and realized I was a player. The story is more complicated than that, but fortunately her red bikini pictures have graced the pages of ISG.
The 2nd one was just a regular girl, very nice, brought her friend and we swam in the America Hotel pool. I felt terrible about it, but as the sun set I sent them off...knowing I'd have my choice of hundreds of AC girls just a short walk down the street.
The 3rd was quite a surprise. I hadn't gone to Ac for a long time, but prior to my last visit I went back to those old 2matchu records. I emailed the addresses I had, and only one came back. She was from Pampanga and she turned out to be an Orchid Inn employee. She was a nice gal, just a bit overweight, but was good for an afternoon fk before she had to go to work. The next day she texted me indicating she was ashamed of what she had done. I gave a lighthearted response, but added what I thought was at least a little romance...but she never texted me again.
I'm always honest and I treat the women well, but in the end... I think I'm the guy they write about in the profile: "I was deceived and now want a trusty man who is SERIOUS..."
As for Mongering business, I always remember what our old friend CebuLocal used to say. Filipinos are too emotional for business...he married a Canadian/Chinese. I wish we could hear from him again.
X
[QUOTE=Mongering1]OK, I will share a little story about my last ex gf. Met her on 2mathcu. She was one of the helps there. She was 22 years old, exotic, pefect ass, college degree, and still a virgin (I used to have a pic of the proof). Thought I hit the jackpot since at the time I was looking for a wife to bring back to USA.
Long story short, she fucked me over more than any girl in my life, including my first exwife! She was/is a habitual liar and simply could not be trusted. Not sure if she fucked around but she did fuck up around a million peso business I tried to start, flower shop (her pamily are florists and she has more than a few working in the high end shops like Shangri La)/internet cafe/cantina.
The outcome of this, I ended up with my girl I have now for almost 3 years. She has a bit of college, ex bar girl, and is a stunner by all accounts. Took her out of La Pasha after my break up with 2matchu girl and we been together since. I took her for her looks only. I asked a waitress friend to find me the best looking girl that is not cherry, not on mens, and will go with me. My motive was to show off a hottie on an upcoming trip to Puerto Galera. Call it love or just me being scared of not finding better, I ended quitting my job, selling my house in Las Vegas and everything in it!
About my current gf: Well she is as perfect as I could ever imagine. Any time, place, sexual act, I want 24/7 and she enjoys another girl occasionally joining us. And she has no problem as far as my almost daily Perimeter barhops. Yeah, I'm just bragging now!
Bud[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Wazza88]There is a direct flight from Cebu to Clark (airport in AC) takes about 1 hour. Therefore, you can go to Cebu, take care of business and then go to AC.
Good luck.[/QUOTE]
Thanks will do.
The CEB-CRK flight is only run 3 or 4 days a week so check with [url]www.cebupacificair.com[/url] to make sure it goes on the day you want. Also, it is a morning flight from Cebu.
[QUOTE=Mongering1]Anyone ever try ACC, asiancybercams? It's a site like ABC. Has a lot of bells and whistles but not many girls online and very few dudes logging in, maybe a good thing? Is there a listing someplace of the different chat sites catering to us Asian lovers? I mean real links to unique sites, not 20 different named sites that all lead to ABC or the like like you get if you google search for them.
[/QUOTE]Interesting website. Sure does have alot of bells and whistles like you said. The Pinays I was chatting with even said that you could get a 2 way webcam signal if you have one. The ones I chatted with didn't pressure me to go private even once. One can't take these chat sites too seriously. I use them strictly for entertainment and if I get a few contacts out of it then great.
I'd be worried if a guy doesn't smile on his wedding day.
C00832662
I've attached a pic of someone who looks really hot (760145). But if you go to the profile, you'll see she's changed pictures. Not nearly as nice as the picture I found earlier Sept. 07.
But the strange thing is that the "last updated" hasn't changed. I can only assume that adding pictures doesn't count as a change. Strange.
X
Mates...come on...be honest..its not the girls only who are scammers. WE ARE as well....
Or does anyone tell all his secrets from the past immediatley to the girl? Is not our thrive to bed the gal as easy as possible with the less expenses? How many boys there are in serious marriage and are telling all...??
I assume its the same percentage of bola bola from us as from the girls.
Big difference> we are the one s who can decide. We are the one s who have either the money or the passport they are aiming for.
I am on and off there. Put up a profile for a month and then off again. With the ones in closer selection I tell them I deleted my account because I found her...and expect her to do the same. The few who do it are the more serious ones.
Next week I will meet 3 of them from Davao and Bislig. The gal from Bislig will travel there on her own account. The only one who did not ask for the bus fare in advance and didnt ask to bring her full clan along.
The 2 girls from Davao are working. One in the morning. She will be free only the afternoon, but shall be back home at night. The other one is working daytime, but free at night.
Ohh yeah..all 3 insist they are virgins. I am pretty shure it is the same myth as with the cherries in Angeles.
I think the shuffling round will be some sort of fun. Lets see how things going........In case nothing happens with them, then theres still the P4P scene in Davao.
[QUOTE=Hornygeorge]The CEB-CRK flight is only run 3 or 4 days a week so check with [url]www.cebupacificair.com[/url] to make sure it goes on the day you want. Also, it is a morning flight from Cebu.[/QUOTE]
I saw that I am just going 2 get up early and travel to Manila and catch a flight from there. The things we do for pussy.
Kill (pussy) at will
Yeah internet dates been there done that. If you there over a month maybe its worth your time. Hey I chatted to so many I get lost who I chatted with. Ok you meet some take a taxi there cost you then buy them food drinks etc cost you and they may bring a friend or mother you pay there food drinks cost u. Go to mall etc cost u. Then what they are not gro to take them to your hotel to screw you have to invest some time and no guarantee. In the end its less headache, less cost to go get a bar girl your guarateed a screw no worry or running around don't say I didn't tell you.
[QUOTE=TrickyRick]Ok you meet some take a taxi there cost you then buy them food drinks etc cost you and they may bring a friend or mother you pay there food drinks cost u. Go to mall etc cost u. .[/QUOTE]
True...that dates are no free shag. At the end u pay eventually more. But its the adventure of hunting..........
Better yet Tricky, stay home and masturbate. Less headache and less cost!
[QUOTE=TrickyRick]Yeah internet dates been there done that. If you there over a month maybe its worth your time. Hey I chatted to so many I get lost who I chatted with. Ok you meet some take a taxi there cost you then buy them food drinks etc cost you and they may bring a friend or mother you pay there food drinks cost u. Go to mall etc cost u. Then what they are not gro to take them to your hotel to screw you have to invest some time and no guarantee. In the end its less headache, less cost to go get a bar girl your guarateed a screw no worry or running around don't say I didn't tell you.[/QUOTE]
Cherry blsm 864835
[QUOTE=X Man]Cherry blsm 864835[/QUOTE]That is just the damnedest thing you'd think he would have posted better pictures of her!
[QUOTE=X Man]You have me worried BB! Oh, just for research purposes???[/QUOTE]LOL, glad you care, yep, its all research.
[QUOTE=Botaki6]Mates...come on...be honest..its not the girls only who are scammers. WE ARE as well.... [/QUOTE]I'm not I am honest there is no point in my opinion in lying to them I'd rather sort out the incompatible ones and cut to what I want. If they want marriage and family etc I tell them no way I'm sterile its not going to happen. I do find some will adapt to whatever I say and change their stories which reveals their true agenda while others move on looking for impregnation with a ring attached. I have also found with some it doesn't seem to matter what you say they get a different understanding from what you intend. Oh well thats just like married life and I don't need that.
That one who got married in China only joined CB in August 31 and married by November thats too fast for my liking. I also see her husband is a better dresser than me.
The one who changed her photo I don't understand how it didn't record an update but I could see why she toned herself down that earlier photo of hers probably attracted the wrong type of guy, someone from here pestering her? lol
After all the talk here about CB, I decided to join. I left my computer on and CB open for the last 12 hours and I have over 150 requests to chat...I love the Philippines. I still prefer DIA over CB, due to DIA is free to email.
Robb
[QUOTE=Bilbo Baggins]
The one who changed her photo I don't understand how it didn't record an update but I could see why she toned herself down that earlier photo of hers probably attracted the wrong type of guy, someone from here pestering her? lol[/QUOTE]
Yes probably me and X Man and Amavida.......:)
By coincidence, I confirmed that the date doesn't change.
Two cute girls in a pic, so I asked which one was her (I assumed sisters). She replied, but the picture was gone. There was no update date. I assume 1. she got tired of hearing the same question and/or didn't like the competition from her sis OR 2) she updated but the pics weren't approved yet, therefore no update date. I'll check again later.
X
[QUOTE=Bilbo Baggins]
The one who changed her photo I don't understand how it didn't record an update but I could see why she toned herself down that earlier photo of hers probably attracted the wrong type of guy, someone from here pestering her? lol[/QUOTE]
DIA has about 10 times as many girls online at a time. 300 is about the most on CB but DIA gets over 3,000. LOTS of TVs though (CB weeds them out I think), so beware. Also, only 1 picture to 3 on CB. It shows last log on in hours and minutes, as opposed to CB only showing the date of last log in.
RobAF: DIA is only free for first 6 months, or so I am told. AS you said, easy to get too many girls writing you and you must learn to only reply to the top 1% or you'll waste too much time.
This is rather good. This is almost believable. This is a good example of how good they can get. DO NOT give these women any indication that you KNOW their scam. Don't teach them...
its bad happends to my business.coz last friday at 10:20 pm there is a husband of myfriend who came and he make a step that i dont like,
that guy is my bf before and he wanted to kissed my so what i did i push him out on my body, its came that my brother came and give a job to him, its a big troubles made at home, when we lift coz where goin to the police to make a blotter he came back and distroyed all things that we have, when my mother and father came on saturday afternoon and they so those things happends to our hows they decided to file cased to the court, for the physical injuries and property damaged that he made and also lot of case that we planed to file on him..we talk already with a lawyer here...
its been a bad things that happend to my store and also my house but its ok i knowthat god will help me to recover thosed problems that i have,
thank you so much and god bless you.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[QUOTE=Hornygeorge]DIA has about 10 times as many girls online at a time. 300 is about the most on CB but DIA gets over 3,000. .[/QUOTE]
Wats the web adress of DIA,,,please
[QUOTE=Botaki6]Wats the web adress of DIA,,,please[/QUOTE]
If you asked google for 'date in asia' she would tell you but since we're here to help each other i'll tell you to put .com on the end of it... dateinasia.com
There is a massive number of women on this web site.
The vast majority cannot hold a even a simple conversation.
If you try to email them, their responses dry up after 1 or 2 emails.
This is not through lack of interest in you. They simply have nothing to talk about. They are just there to get a ring/pregancy/obligation to family milking.
Most of them cant wait to get you on yahoo web cam where their response to everything you say is 'ic' 'oh' & the ever popular 'ok'.
If you look hard you can find some great girls but oh my god you're gonna be busy sorting through the chaff...
Happy mongering
Amavida
[QUOTE=Amavida]If you asked google for 'date in asia' she would tell you but since we're here to help each other i'll tell you to put .com on the end of it... dateinasia.com
There is a massive number of women on this web site.
The vast majority cannot hold a even a simple conversation.
If you try to email them, their responses dry up after 1 or 2 emails.
This is not through lack of interest in you. They simply have nothing to talk about. They are just there to get a ring/pregancy/obligation to family milking.
Most of them cant wait to get you on yahoo web cam where their response to everything you say is 'ic' 'oh' & the ever popular 'ok'.
If you look hard you can find some great girls but oh my god you're gonna be busy sorting through the chaff...
Happy mongering
Amavida[/QUOTE]
Amavida
I tend to agree with you on DIA, and nothing pisses me off off more than the whole chat being "ic" and "oo" etc.
CB is still OK for me and still thriving. Had nice naked web cam (she not me :)) this morning - nice way to start the day in the office, no cash provided, no 'gifts', just becasue she loves me...well I am a lovable person. Had 3 like that this week and all promise me happy things when I am next back in Manila :) Maybe busy so may need help :D
Re the PM we had Amavidsa - not biting so far excuses but no realtime chat.
C0082493
Look at this one on CB. New member, hardship story, love heels and sexy dresses, different name from her profile.... not sure if picture 3 is the same as the others, IMHO it is not but then am old :)
C00892420
Now this makes it very clear so best be on your good behaviour when you chat with her. Also am always suspicious of the type of photo on her profile, not sure why just am
[QUOTE=Bpd81]Never been to Angeles( have been to PI, Manila, Subai etc..) planned this trip to go to Angeles to monger and just go back to work. Here is the dilemma. I have now met an educated beautiful Filipina from Cebu online who is expecting me to visit her. I got three days. Also have a possible business venture in Cebu? Any suggestions?[/QUOTE]
Maybe I could put that fire out in Cebu for you.
[QUOTE=Botaki6]
Next week I will meet 3 of them from Davao and Bislig. The gal from Bislig will travel there on her own account. The only one who did not ask for the bus fare in advance and didnt ask to bring her full clan along.
The 2 girls from Davao are working. One in the morning. She will be free only the afternoon, but shall be back home at night. The other one is working daytime, but free at night.
Ohh yeah..all 3 insist they are virgins. I am pretty shure it is the same myth as with the cherries in Angeles.
I think the shuffling round will be some sort of fun. Lets see how things going........In case nothing happens with them, then theres still the P4P scene in Davao.[/QUOTE]
Sounds like a dam good plan
[QUOTE=X Man]I'd be worried if a guy doesn't smile on his wedding day.
C00832662
I've attached a pic of someone who looks really hot (760145). But if you go to the profile, you'll see she's changed pictures. Not nearly as nice as the picture I found earlier Sept. 07.
But the strange thing is that the "last updated" hasn't changed. I can only assume that adding pictures doesn't count as a change. Strange.
X[/QUOTE]
That is a 100% SHEMALE
[QUOTE=Amavida]If you asked google for 'date in asia' she would tell you but since we're here to help each other i'll tell you to put .com on the end of it... dateinasia.com
There is a massive number of women on this web site.
The vast majority cannot hold a even a simple conversation.
If you try to email them, their responses dry up after 1 or 2 emails.
This is not through lack of interest in you. They simply have nothing to talk about. They are just there to get a ring/pregancy/obligation to family milking.
Most of them cant wait to get you on yahoo web cam where their response to everything you say is 'ic' 'oh' & the ever popular 'ok'.
If you look hard you can find some great girls but oh my god you're gonna be busy sorting through the chaff...
Happy mongering,
Amavida[/QUOTE]Actually just had a yahoo "conversation" with one. Sounded exactly as described by Amavida, although I had a "really? " once (note the double? ) quite a frustrating experience to have the impression of talking to a baseball bat!
Still not found the great ones, but will let you know if I do.
[QUOTE=Wicked Roger]C0082493
Look at this one on CB. New member, hardship story, love heels and sexy dresses, different name from her profile.... not sure if picture 3 is the same as the others, IMHO it is not but then am old :)[/QUOTE]WOW, she must of read this, her profile is gone:D
After hours of internet surfing looking for a nice hotel fot the new year. I saw a website with pinoy chat on webcam. Like a flash I saw a face. The smile of my life. After hours of (free) videochat finally I took her email address. And after 2 days when she received my photos by email she sent me the phone numbers. (I also have a pinoy smartbuddy3) Some sms etc etc. She agreed to see me when I'll in the Philippines. She look really great. But trust me R E A L L Y. I'm a good pretty boy, not bradpittstyle but really cute. How can I do this thing in the best way when I'll be in the Philippines'? Probably she also works as cam models. But. C'est la vie.
Sorry 4 my bad/poor english.
You need to be more specific about what information you want and what your goal is.
I'll start by saying you probably don't want to send airfare for her to meet you, unless you take the proper precautions.
I once suggested I might pay for transportation cost for a real cutey to meet me in Borocay. I was thinking ferry (she had no work obligations), she was thinking airplane. For the next two weeks she constantly pestered me about me sending her airfare -- "you promised!". At the same time she neglected to ask me how I was, or what I was doing. Needless to say I never met the dimwit.
X
[QUOTE=Mrfantastik]After hours of internet surfing looking for a nice hotel fot the new year. I saw a website with pinoy chat on webcam. Like a flash I saw a face. The smile of my life. After hours of (free) videochat finally I took her email address. And after 2 days when she received my photos by email she sent me the phone numbers. (I also have a pinoy smartbuddy3) Some sms etc etc. She agreed to see me when I'll in the Philippines. She look really great. But trust me R E A L L Y. I'm a good pretty boy, not bradpittstyle but really cute. How can I do this thing in the best way when I'll be in the Philippines'? Probably she also works as cam models. But. C'est la vie.
Sorry 4 my bad/poor english.[/QUOTE]
Thanks XMAN here some informations:
I will be in P. For 2months travelling all over the country and in the middle of my trip I will be in the same CITY of the girl for 5 or 6 days.
She never ask favour/money/ticket/etc. And she gaves the email and mobile numbers afer the chat and after my pictures.
So, I don't like to pay for a girl. But sometimes I can do. Now this isn't (I hope)
So my question was:
If the girl is really interested in me, can a simple dinner/eating out/ little trip to an island be the PERFECT WAY?
Thanks.
And like always. Sorry for poor the written english.
C00845550
Take a look at the second pic and you'll notice there is guy's leg in the pic. If you ask her, I'm sure she'll tell you it's her brother.
My guess is that she spends a lot of time in front of the computer doing WHO KNOWS WHAT, and her eyes have become bad...she didn't notice that her husban.., I mean her brother's leg is in the picture.
Amavida, what happened to the girlfriend you stole from me? Does she still love you?
I have two now that are such complete annoying dimwits, I might favor future human culling.
One sends ten lines of happy faces in my offline ym. The other was really cute, but I got the same four/five messages everyday. After a few days, I realized she was mass mailing. I asked her how many guys she was sending that mail too. Haven't heard from her since, which is what I expected.
I can't really criticize her for mass mailings since i do it to.
X
X
Hallo monger friend
I am new here in the sceen, so pls let me know how to find out, which C-number belongs to which girl?
Thanks for your support, friend
[QUOTE=MrFantastik]After hours of internet surfing looking for a nice hotel fot the new year. I saw a website with pinoy chat on webcam. Like a flash I saw a face. The smile of my life. After hours of (free) videochat finally I took her email address. And after 2 days when she received my photos by email she sent me the phone numbers. (I also have a pinoy smartbuddy3) Some sms etc etc. She agreed to see me when I'll in the Philippines. She look really great. But trust me R E A L L Y. I'm a good pretty boy, not bradpittstyle but really cute. How can I do this thing in the best way when I'll be in the Philippines'? Probably she also works as cam models. But. C'est la vie.
Sorry 4 my bad/poor english.[/QUOTE]Me too. I was the best looking foreigner in Bayugan/Butuan City.
[QUOTE=X Man]C00845550
Take a look at the second pic and you'll notice there is guy's leg in the pic. If you ask her, I'm sure she'll tell you it's her brother.
My guess is that she spends a lot of time in front of the computer doing WHO KNOWS WHAT, and her eyes have become bad...she didn't notice that her husban.., I mean her brother's leg is in the picture.
Amavida, what happened to the girlfriend you stole from me? Does she still love you?
I have two now that are such complete annoying dimwits, I might favor future human culling.
One sends ten lines of happy faces in my offline ym. The other was really cute, but I got the same four/five messages everyday. After a few days, I realized she was mass mailing. I asked her how many guys she was sending that mail too. Haven't heard from her since, which is what I expected.
I can't really criticize her for mass mailings since i do it to.
X
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G'day X! Hows things?
er, which gf is that exactly? I lost track... :) hehehe
On the subject of culling, I have dropped my profile off the web sites & culled all but 2 gf's at present.
I just got back from Phils last week. I did have a real hot chick lined up to spend 2 days with in Cebu called Kristine whom I found on DIA. Nursing student, gave me a sob story about being cheated on by pinoy bf some time ago and apparently wanting to wash away the bad memory with some white hot action between the bed sheets with me. Lots of really hot cyber sex talk about what she was going to do with me when I got there etc. Able to hold a semi intelligent conversation. Was saying all the right things to the point where I booked a flight & hotel room to go down there & shag her senseless.
I dropped the plans (and her) at the last minute because my spidy sense was always screaming at me 'too good to be true dude'. Maybe i missed out on something great but ultimately you have to trust your instincts.
Anyone want to prove me wrong go to DIA & look for 'kristine_amy' from zamboanga (actually she's in Cebu City).
At present i've got plenty of action from my 18 yr old HRM student in Manila, who has gone from virgin to wonderful GFE fuck of my life in a matter of 2 visits.
She shagged me so much I had to resort to a little 'help' for the first time in my life. Can you believe this, Im walking down Burgos with her & one of many street sellers stops us & offers me V or C. After the preceding night Its already in my mind that Im gonna need something to keep up with her in bed this night if we have a repeat of the previous night. So on the spur of the moment & knowing the street value of C I ask 'Cialis, how much?' The dickhead says 1000p, I just flatly say 'no, 300' he instantly says 'ok 2 box for 600' I grab the boxes shove the notes in his hand & we walk on. Total time of transaction 20sec's tops. Im kinda embarrassed by this & GF is asking what's that? I pretend not to hear & change the subject while frantically stuffing the boxes in my back pocket. So in the name of field research I swallow half of one of these 20mg Cialis tabs that night and i gotta tell you, even if they are generics manufactured in India or pakistan, the shit works. Not sure if needed but I tried a second dose the next night (full 20mg), only slight headache and able to fully satisfy this girls new found unbridled appetite for sex.
And gf #2 in Singapore who provides very pleasant stopovers there.. :)
probably will drop her in the near future coz she is faking her interest in me. You can tell when they just want a ticket out of the place.
Happy mongering
Amavida
Planning my first trip to PI early next year (I've mongered before in Thailand, China, and HK). In any event, I decided to give FH a try and now I'm regretting my decision. I've met some real cuties, and they've all passed the Scammer test, but damn these girls are possessive. Every single one of them (4 so far) expects me to spend my entire trip with them and them only, and they constantly ask if I'm going to see any other women when I'm there. Obviously, monogamy is not part of my agenda in the PI, and I'm not looking for a wife to bring home to the States. On the other hand, I've gotten semi-attached to these girls, and I don't want to hurt any of them, but I don't want to spend my entire trip with just one girl either. How have you guys handled this before? I want to meet each of these girls, but not if the cost of admission is 3 weeks of monogamy. Should I just be honest and say that I'm going to meet others? Should I beg off now? Should I come up with an excuse as to why I have to leave?
X-man. I'm sure you've dealt with this many times before. How do you handle it?
Any advice appreciated.
I posted a profile on CB and FK that went as follows - which one of you girls needs help finishing your education? Or maybe you just want a holiday at some Philipino resort and lay about on the beach?I did not supply a photo in either case!
I get a load of replys including smiles&mails from girls who up to then had been looking for Mr Right!I actually got more responses than when I was impersonating Mr Good Guy!
Just to say it was a very illuminating experience!I even had one girl tell me that she was a bar girl and she just wanted a holiday on the beach and a break from the trade!She even offerd to furnish proof that she was a clean healthy girl with nothing transmissable!How I laughed!
Well, I don't have the problem so much because I tell them I'm just looking for friends and wouldn't consider any commitment to someone I've never met face to face. Of course after meeting them face to face, then I get the 30 text messages a day problem....
I also tell them I'm going to visit my American friend in Manila, Cebu or in Davao. If you hang out at ISG long enough you'll have guy friends all over the Philippines. For me it has to be a true story because I'm a terrible liar.
There was also a guy on the Davao thread who had an interesting angle. He told women he met that he was either enroute, or just finished, climbing Mt. Apo - which was true. In other words, have some legitimate excuse for being elsewhere in the Philippines.
Another strategy. Tell them you'll arrive later than you really plan to arrive. Then meet girl A - tell her you were able to get an earlier flight - "surprise baby!". Girl B doesn't expect you so you have some time to play.
As for the girls asking questions online about who you'll see, I often ignore it or change the subject. That should answer the question for them. If I get cornered, I say yes, I want to meet Filipino people, or jokingly, yes, hundreds of girls...but you're my favorite...
Okay, I hope that gives you some ideas. Now please review FH for us. So far, most of the posts have been by people who use CB. Naturally, I don't expect you to share your fav. four with us, but surely you can find one girl you can introduce us to.
X Man
[QUOTE=Longhorn2000]Planning my first trip to PI early next year (I've mongered before in Thailand, China, and HK). In any event, I decided to give FH a try and now I'm regretting my decision. I've met some real cuties, and they've all passed the Scammer test, but damn these girls are possessive. Every single one of them (4 so far) expects me to spend my entire trip with them and them only, and they constantly ask if I'm going to see any other women when I'm there. Obviously, monogamy is not part of my agenda in the PI, and I'm not looking for a wife to bring home to the States. On the other hand, I've gotten semi-attached to these girls, and I don't want to hurt any of them, but I don't want to spend my entire trip with just one girl either. How have you guys handled this before? I want to meet each of these girls, but not if the cost of admission is 3 weeks of monogamy. Should I just be honest and say that I'm going to meet others? Should I beg off now? Should I come up with an excuse as to why I have to leave?
X-man. I'm sure you've dealt with this many times before. How do you handle it?
Any advice appreciated.[/QUOTE]
Interesting. Can you give us some profile info so that we can check out the one you describe? CB is easy to search using the profile number, but I don't know how FH works. (FK?)
Has anyone ever chatted or met this CB girl? She's pretty cool and I might try to meet her. Lives in a boarding house, so that's promising.
C00618547
X man
[QUOTE=Iainmore]I posted a profile on CB and FK that went as follows - which one of you girls needs help finishing your education? Or maybe you just want a holiday at some Philipino resort and lay about on the beach?I did not supply a photo in either case!
I get a load of replys including smiles&mails from girls who up to then had been looking for Mr Right!I actually got more responses than when I was impersonating Mr Good Guy!
Just to say it was a very illuminating experience!I even had one girl tell me that she was a bar girl and she just wanted a holiday on the beach and a break from the trade!She even offerd to furnish proof that she was a clean healthy girl with nothing transmissable!How I laughed![/QUOTE]
Xman/Amavida
Maybe one for us to avoid... C00895992.
At least she/he is very honest but surpirsed CB let it through and more surprised it came up on my 'New Matches' inbox!! Best check my settings as this will give me a bad reputation :)
XMan re the lady you ask about, no dont know this one but she is cute so good luck. Tell her you have some friends......:D
This one is really wild. First one massive run-on sentence. and then short staccato sentences. Oh, and the staccato sentences are in upper case. Either this chick has multiple personalities or there were two different writers.
iam looking for that man that is serious to love and ready to give anything want i want but i really love thAT is willing to me and i just wan to get know each others iam simple but honest to all i just meet simple guy and loyal to me and he is honest to and i dont want games i want serious.......i hope that there is someone who will care for me for being what im..... and i want man that is supportive man in my life.... NO - I AM NOT PERFECT - BUT THROUGH THIS LIFE I HAVE MADE A COMMITMENT TO MYSELF TO GROW, LEARN AND MATURE FROM THE SITUATIONS I HAVE ENDURED AND THE MISTAKES I HAVE MADE! I CAME TO THIS SITE IN SEARCH OF MY LIFE PARTNERAND SOUL MATE! SOMEONE WHO WILL WORK TOGETHER WITH ME TO BUILD A STRONG, HARMONIOUS, MUTUAL BOND FOR LIFE ! AS FOR ME, I VALUE NOTHING MORE THAN HONESTY ! IT IS THE FOUNDATION OF EVERY SOLID RELATIONSHIP AND ENCOURAGES TRUST AND RESPECT ! I DESPISE LIARS !LOVE IS NOT WONDERING HOW LONG IT WILL LAST BUT HOW STRONG 2 HEARTS CAN MAKE IT GROW! LOVE IS NOT FINDING THE PERFECT PERSON, BUT BEING PERFECT FOR THE RIGHT PERSON! LOVE`S BOUNDRIES KNOWS NOT AGE, RACE OR DISTANCE ! THE GREAT MARRIAGE ISN`T WHEN THE PERFECT COUPLE JOIN TOGETHER.... IT`S WHEN THE IMPERFECT COUPLE LEARN TO ENJOY THEIR DIFFERANCES!
Yea, Roger, can I call you a friend? Where do you live? Don't say AC because that IS NOT a good alibi.
[QUOTE=Wicked Roger]Xman/Amavida
Maybe one for us to avoid... C00895992.
At least she/he is very honest but surpirsed CB let it through and more surprised it came up on my 'New Matches' inbox!! Best check my settings as this will give me a bad reputation :)
XMan re the lady you ask about, no dont know this one but she is cute so good luck. Tell her you have some friends......:D[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Wicked Roger]Xman/Amavida
Maybe one for us to avoid... C00895992.
[/QUOTE]
Agreed.
Sometimes I wish the dating web site owners would setup a separate section for trannies & those who seek them.
On DIA I was getting about 1 in 20 enquiries from these freaks of nature.
It started to get annoying after a while.
Happy mongering
Amavida
[QUOTE=Longhorn2000]Planning my first trip to PI early next year (I've mongered before in Thailand, China, and HK)[/QUOTE]Remember they are looking for someone who will travel to the Philippines and if you have a trip scheduled, they hope that you will be the one. They are also honest, if you haven't been in the Philippines before, the internet girls know that it will only take a short time until you realize that women out number the men 10 to 1. So, if they don't get you all to themselves, they know that they could lose you very fast.
Living in the Philippines for the last seven months, I found that if you treat the women with respect, they will not stay angry if you don't answer their texts for 24 hours and they know that you are with another girl. I had more then a few ladies tell me that were upset, but it didn't last more then 1 day and then they were back to texting me 10 times a day.
I am now back home and I know that living there really changed me (it was my third time in the Philippines in the last 18 months) and I love the country and I will return.
Stay safe
Robb
[QUOTE=X Man]Interesting. Can you give us some profile info so that we can check out the one you describe? CB is easy to search using the profile number, but I don't know how FH works. (FK?)
Has anyone ever chatted or met this CB girl? She's pretty cool and I might try to meet her. Lives in a boarding house, so that's promising.
C00618547
X man[/QUOTE]FK is short for Filipino Kisses - I see many girls there who have profiles on CB but usually just the names are different!The bar girl I am keeping to myself guys - till I double check her!I have her booked for a week at 12,000 pesos which we negotiate already!I did not tell her I would be in Phillipinnes at least 2 weeks before I arrange to go to Sipalay with her!I will post the numbers and photos of some girls who showed promise to my invitation!Negotiations are on going with several girls and I will let you know if such is economical in comparison to going to bars/clubs for a pick up!
Or maybe I list their e-mails for you and see if you recognise any - what is the rule here about that?
[QUOTE=X Man]Interesting. Can you give us some profile info so that we can check out the one you describe? CB is easy to search using the profile number, but I don't know how FH works. (FK?)
Has anyone ever chatted or met this CB girl? She's pretty cool and I might try to meet her. Lives in a boarding house, so that's promising.
C00618547
X man[/QUOTE]I forgot to say that at Filipino Kisses when you buy a membeship you get access to the girls e-mail addressess and sometimes phone numbers and home addresses - that beats the info you get at CB any day?If I remember it works much the same way as Thai Kisses but much better as there is I think a better choice of girls there at FK than TK!!?Also you have Asian Kisses but it is to spread out with girls from all over the place FK tends to be mostly Filipinas which is what we want to focus on when it is Filipinas we want!
[QUOTE=Longhorn2000]Planning my first trip to PI early next year (I've mongered before in Thailand, China, and HK). In any event, I decided to give FH a try and now I'm regretting my decision. I've met some real cuties, and they've all passed the Scammer test, but damn these girls are possessive. Every single one of them (4 so far) expects me to spend my entire trip with them and them only, and they constantly ask if I'm going to see any other women when I'm there. Obviously, monogamy is not part of my agenda in the PI, and I'm not looking for a wife to bring home to the States. On the other hand, I've gotten semi-attached to these girls, and I don't want to hurt any of them, but I don't want to spend my entire trip with just one girl either. How have you guys handled this before? I want to meet each of these girls, but not if the cost of admission is 3 weeks of monogamy. Should I just be honest and say that I'm going to meet others? Should I beg off now? Should I come up with an excuse as to why I have to leave?
X-man. I'm sure you've dealt with this many times before. How do you handle it?
Any advice appreciated.[/QUOTE]Not sure if this will help u at all, I am not a member of any dating sites but I am chatting to a girl in Manila. I have always been honest with this girl, maybe because I not really care if we meet or not.
We chat most days and I enjoy chatting to her, she is looking for a long term relationship with me but I have told her I am not interested in having a relationship with her( well nothing more than sex).
She would also like to spend all my time in PI with her, I have told her that is not going to happen. She knows I have been to Angeles and I plan to go back there, if only for a couple of days.
Her only rule is that I don't go chasing other girls while I am with her, that's ok with me. I have told her before that I not want to hurt her, but she say do not worry it is her problem not mine.
This may not be the same for every girl out there maybe I just got lucky.
Good Luck.
[QUOTE=Longhorn2000]Planning my first trip to PI early next year (I've mongered before in Thailand, China, and HK). Any advice appreciated.[/QUOTE]I'm definately not in the experienced category in PI, as I'm only here on my second trip at the moment. But I did take the same approach as you so have some ideas.
I also spent quite abit of time on FH before my first trip, and had my list of girls to see, and similarly they all wanted to meet me straight away and get in first.
I'm lucky that I am here working, so I simply use the 'going out with colleagues' excuse when I need a night off from one of them. But don't worry too much about it, they are masters of looking innocent and hiding what they are up to, so it's a given to say that they now what you will be doing.
I made a point of telling them both at the end of the first trip that I had infact been seeing someone else aswell, and while they didn't appear to like it at the time, it has made no difference at all this time and they have both come back for more.
Just tell them when you are free. 'I can see you Wednesday and Thursday, but I have other plans on Friday' etc...
Also, I made the mistake of getting on FH too early before I arrived. I've found the best option is to wait until only a few days before to tell them when you will be here. Now that I am here I just jump online and make plans for the next couple of days.
Don't worry if you think you will miss the good ones you have found so far, there will always be more to choose from.
[QUOTE=Iainmore]I forgot to say that at Filipino Kisses when you buy a membeship you get access to the girls e-mail addressess and sometimes phone numbers and home addresses - that beats the info you get at CB any day?If I remember it works much the same way as Thai Kisses but much better as there is I think a better choice of girls there at FK than TK!!?Also you have Asian Kisses but it is to spread out with girls from all over the place FK tends to be mostly Filipinas which is what we want to focus on when it is Filipinas we want![/QUOTE]
In Filipino Kisses you can buy a membership for one month ($35). While you're a member you can get the contact info of more than 300 girls. Even after your membership expires you can still have an account and access the information for all of the girls you saved. Not a bad deal.
CB 811204
I think I got one message from her and then nothing for 45 days. Looking at her proflie, she had been active, but was just ignoring me. During that time I wrote serveral message -- mostly generic things that I cut and paste to save time and increase my potential contacts.
After about 50 days the message disappear from the mailbox, so I sent her one last mail telling her I "would be in the Philippines".
Well, well, 21 hours later, I get this message.. It works every time.
***hello..how are you????well, its nice if we meet in person, well i am so sorry i was sick and hope we can chat each other, i missed you and pls takcare of yourself and hope we can chat soon..godbless you and i am happy knowing u will coming here so that we can meet.."
For those of you who don't already have regulars setup. How long before your trip do you wait until you start making contacts on penpal sites and chatrooms? I'm taking my cherry trip to Phil in about 6 months and was wondering if chatting with these girls this early would be a waste of time. Thanks for any input.
If you're looking for something serious, it might be wise to start early and get to know the lady. If you're just looking for dates, I'd say three months before would be the max...and include the time in country as part of your subscription. I've had two very successful dates after contacting women from an internet cafe after I was already in the Philippines.
My biggest problem is keeping track of all of them. The worst part is when they move you over to YM and then don't identify themselves when they chat...and of course they have some handle like simple_filipina...
I'd like to hear what others do, but I sort YM into cities. As for my online service I've resorted to using a print screen software to capture the profile, print it and then add notes directly to the paper.
I keep thinking of making an EXCEL file because you could then sort by name, city or even birthday. Somehow I never get around to it.
X Man
[QUOTE=allwet]For those of you who don't already have regulars setup. How long before your trip do you wait until you start making contacts on penpal sites and chatrooms? I'm taking my cherry trip to Phil in about 6 months and was wondering if chatting with these girls this early would be a waste of time. Thanks for any input.[/QUOTE]
CB C00449247
After exchanging a few messages with this hottie, she admits she's in the US with her husband and gives me the phone number of her 32 yr old aunt who has two kids.
X
[QUOTE=X Man]If you're looking for something serious, it might be wise to start early and get to know the lady. If you're just looking for dates, I'd say three months before would be the max...and include the time in country as part of your subscription. I've had two very successful dates after contacting women from an internet cafe after I was already in the Philippines.
My biggest problem is keeping track of all of them. The worst part is when they move you over to YM and then don't identify themselves when they chat...and of course they have some handle like simple_filipina...
I'd like to hear what others do, but I sort YM into cities. As for my online service I've resorted to using a print screen software to capture the profile, print it and then add notes directly to the paper.
I keep thinking of making an EXCEL file because you could then sort by name, city or even birthday. Somehow I never get around to it.
X Man[/QUOTE]
I think that about 1 month is long enough to chat with a potential candidate for meeting in person. Most of these girls live such simple lives that after about 5 or 6 chats you will know all about them and their families and there will be nothing left to talk about. At least for me I start getting bored and want to find a new girl to chat with. I also advise enabling the history function on yahoo because if you chat with as many girls as I do you start forgetting the particulars of each one and one will come online and say " do you remember me " and i zip over to the chat history and I can say oh yes your the 20 yr old from Cebu who works at Ayala.. Believe me that impresses them.. Even though 3 min earlier I could not remember anything about them. I also agree with X-Man that you should keep your subscription while you are in the Phil. very nice to be chatting up a new girl on filipina heart or cherry blossoms and find out your in the same city as she is and your both free for the night to meet and get to know each other better..SWEET.. I also create yahoo groups so I can segragate my chatmates into the cities they live in but wish yahoo would allow subgroups so that you could also maybe do single moms or ages or just more information than just cities in the groups.
[QUOTE=allwet]For those of you who don't already have regulars setup. How long before your trip do you wait until you start making contacts on penpal sites and chatrooms? I'm taking my cherry trip to Phil in about 6 months and was wondering if chatting with these girls this early would be a waste of time. Thanks for any input.[/QUOTE]
Yes, in general 6 months is way too long. If you are looking for a casual gf or aquaintance. The prettier the girl, the sooner you have to be there after making contact. The desperate will chat for 6 months.
I agree with Xman, most of the girls come from very humble backgrounds have little to say. Your best success will come with chicks who just want to give their cp # & meet u asap!!
Keeping track of them?
I use a Mac, its easy to 'print' their profile page to a pdf file which I store in a folder with as much identifying info as possible together with mail transcripts.
It quickly becomes unmanageable no matter what you do because many ( most of the DIA girls ) use a different profile name on each of several dating sites, a completely different email address and often a different yahoo id...
Hence once again better to just make contact get cp # & meet fairly soon because in the mean time you will be constantly adding new interests with all there bloody subterfuge nonsense & you lose track of the earlier ones.
The kid in a candy shop syndrome is what I call it. Better to limit your self in time & place to what is available _now_. The more you look the more you find but most you will never get around to meeting.
Some of the lazy bitches contact you with no pic & when you ask for one refer you to a different dating site. That turns me off them real fast. Im not here to chase after them. Usually they turn ou to be be very average anyway.
They spend endless hours of their lives in internet cafes trying to hook & dream BF or husband. Telling them you are gonna be there in 2 or 3 weeks gets them _real_ motivated! Droning on with emails & chat for 6 months means while you're doing that she's probably got some dude servicing her already.
They do vary a little from this pattern but its mostly true.
Some other advice.
1) Dont fuck P4P girls with out a condom - ever. You expose yourself to a myriad of horrible STD's or or even death.
2) If you bareback clean girls, you will create a pregnancy for a girl who likely has no means to support (another illegitimate) child so be prepared to act like a man & pay for the abortion expenses if she agrees to it, or to pay for the child's welfare for the next 18 years.
Factor in abortion expenses into your trip costs : 1000 for abortion pills if you catch the pregnacy early. If you leave it for more than a month, a further 20,000 in medical costs to remove the incomplete abortion from her (otherwise she will have severe gynae problems at best or die from sepsis if your not lucky).
Happy mongering
Amavida
Thanks for the feedback guys.
Since I'm just looking for casual acquaintances and not a wife I will gladly hold off on site subscriptions for a while. I've been on a few of the webcam sites since I've heard of guys having some degree of success there and have even gotten some ym id's. I have to say it seems like most of the webcam girls just use their ym chat accounts to send out blast emails to guys asking them to visit them.
Also, I have no plans on getting anyone pregnant. I plan on using condoms for p4p as well as regulars. I really don't need any extra baggage.
Pop quiz, there is something wrong with this pic of Nina from DIA.
Can u tell?
:) hehehehehehe
Winners of the contest will receive Nina's Yahoo ID!
Happy mongering
Amavida
[QUOTE=Amavida]Pop quiz, there is something wrong with this pic of Nina from DIA.
Can u tell?
:) hehehehehehe
Winners of the contest will receive Nina's Yahoo ID!
Happy mongering
Amavida[/QUOTE]
um....you are in it? Please don't tell me the pretty one is a guy???
X Man we seem to have the same taste in women.
I like that idea of sorting them on yahoo by cities as I am only going to meet ladies in the cities I'm visiting. I'm going early next year and I joined CB about 4 months ago for 2 months that was too early as I'm down to only one regular chat friend that I'm going to hook up with for a couple of weeks. The rest I got bored with or felt were unsuitable while others thought I was unsuitable for them.
You can save their photos from CB and it keeps their ID number on the photo FH doesn't do that. With FH you can save the profile page as html but not the chats unless they are in Yahoo while CB gives you the choice to save cb chats which I do because most of them give you their yahoo id in the first chat. My intention was to match all the information so I could keep tabs on who was who but it got overwhelming with so many saved chats. I was chatting with several ladies each day. Unlike Yahoo there is no way to identify them without opening the saved chat. I just couldn't keep up with the paper work and cross referencing. I prefer CB over FH for slightly better ease of use and having more than one photo, both have trouble with the chats crashing from time to time. I think the mix is the same in all of them.
I like the idea of searching on the ground for instant dates this long distance stuff has too much bullshit attached. The only advantage of joining these sites early is the sussing out experience you get. So long as you remain cynical you can sort them out eventually , I think, lol
I joined this site as a non paying member it seems you can find p4p ladies here and they seem to wear less in their photos all I can do is read profiles. [url]http://www.sexiestfilipinas.com/[/url]
Iainmore, I'm thinking of going to Sipalay what do you think of it? I am going to visit a few diving places to take up scuba diving.
It's funny how you guys mentioned that keeping up with all of the details with your contacts is almost impossible. It seems that this is a two way road. I've been chatting with a few gals that I met in Yahoo chatrooms and one that I dropped about 3 weeks ago sent me an instant message out of the blue telling me that she was finally in Australia to see me. That was kind of funny since I live on the west coast of the US.
BB, your first five words cracked me up.
AV hasnt replied, but what interested me most was the background of the pic. Mirror? Not sure. Certainly seems to be a girl in t-back in the background of the pic.
So, what is weird about this pic] C00888672
Dan
[QUOTE=X Man]CB C00449247
After exchanging a few messages with this hottie, she admits she's in the US with her husband and gives me the phone number of her 32 yr old aunt who has two kids.
X[/QUOTE]
Too funny Xman. I also had a chat with this girl and she quickly told me she was already in the USA and married. Very nice girl.
This girl also tried to hook me up with her Aunt with two Angels, as she called them. In other words two daughters. I told her I was only interested in my own family not a ready made family. She tried to get me to give her aunt a try, but I declined. So then she told me about her 27 year old cousin. I asked if she was on CB and she said yes, but when I when and looked at her profile she had no picture. That should have been a big flag, but I kept on. Finally after two days we caught each other on Yahoo and she looked like she was 35, not 27 and looked like she had pushed out more than a few angels. So I politely told her I did not think we were right for each other.
She was not at all attractive. I think the cb girl married in the USA is desperate to have a familiar person in the USA with her or she really just wants to help her friends..who knows.
check this one out
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I could not believe this. But at least the truth is being told. Unless you like sword fighting this one is not for you, which I'm sure is the case here 100%. I'm sure CB will be removing this profile soon.
FF
[QUOTE=Amavida]Pop quiz, there is something wrong with this pic of Nina from DIA.
Can you tell?
:) hehehehehehe
Winners of the contest will receive Nina's Yahoo ID!
Happy mongering
Amavida[/QUOTE]Adams apple?
[QUOTE=Bilbo Baggins]um....you are in it? Please don't tell me the pretty one is a guy???
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Hehehehehee :)
Yep one of them is not of the female persuasion.
But which one is it??
C'mon! BB You can do it!
Amavida
Under Yahoo Messenger you can use the Contact Details function to save information about a girl. Just select a girl from your contact list. Then click on Contacts in the top menu bar. In the pull down menu click on Contact Details. In the box that pops up you can enter all kinds of useful details: phone numbers, home town, birthdays, etc. The most useful part for me is the Notes (under Notes tab). Here you can just enter anything to help you remember a girl like her CB number, where you met, etc. This stuff always saves the day when a girl pops up and says "Hi" without a cam and expects you to remember who she is.
BB: Sipalay, Western Negros, is a great place for diving but bring your own GF out there as there is NO ACTION AT ALL. Major hassle to get there also as nearest airport is a solid 3 hour taxi ride away (either Bacolod or Dumaguette).
Don't you feel sorry for the poor thing. Just one tragedy after the other.
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[QUOTE=X Man]Don't you feel sorry for the poor thing. Just one tragedy after the other.
C00889325[/QUOTE]
couldn't bring that one up X-man, must be deleted already or some problem on my end, but check out this beauty.
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she is from manila, thailand.... and then check out this one.
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even the scammers make mistakes. Need to be careful with the copy and paste. It does not always work, or maybe they purposely left some of the text out. Who knows what lurks in the mind of a cunning Flipino
FF
[QUOTE=Frequent Flier]couldn't bring that one up X-man, must be deleted already or some problem on my end, but check out this beauty.C00900397she is from manila, thailand. even the scammers make mistakes.FF[/QUOTE]
It was also gone when I checked it out.
FF, she may not know where she is and she looks too good to be true. I sent her a message and lets see what she says.
Robb
[QUOTE=Robbaf]It was also gone when I checked it out.
FF, she may not know where she is and she looks too good to be true. I sent her a message and lets see what she says.
Robb[/QUOTE]
I edited the message to add another one with the same Manila, Thailand location, except this time they actually mention it in the profile. Too funny
I also sometimes send a message to see what I get back, but becasue I say in my profile that I know all the scams and have been to the Philippines many times I never get a response. I should change it, but to lazy.
Before I put that in my profile I always received a response and I receiveed about 10 times as many initial contacts from CB girls on the scam obviously.
FF
This one is a complete scammer.
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For me anytime they are from Zamboanga City it is a 99 percent chance they are a fake and on the scam.
I thought I had saved the two conversations I had with her, but can't find them. In the first conversation she asked for me to get her a web cam within about 10 IM's back and forth. The way she approached it was she asked if I mind if she had a web cam and I responded "no... i did not mind if she had a web cam" so she responded thank you sir, how do I get the web cam...to which I responded that I never said I would buy her a web cam only that I did not mind if she had one. That it was fine with me for her to have a web cam, but I would not send her money for one. I asked her to go to a web cam Internet cafe so that I could see her and if it was her I would send her money, which I really would not have done, but I knew it would not happen. She tells me that she is in a poor province area way outside the city and they have no web cam Internet cafe. So I ask her if they are so far away from the city that there is no web cam cafe, where would they purchase the web cam from? And if they could purchase the web cam then obviously they would have web cam Internet cafe there.
She quit chatting right then
A few days later I see her on line again so I send a IM to see what happens, I like screwing with these scammers when I have time, which is not often. she or it or whatever it is must have forgotten our last exchange of IM's as she stars chatting and this time within about 3 exchanges of IM's she ask if she can ask a favor, but she is shy to ask, I know you have all seen this weak approach. So of course I tell her she can ask a favor. Well this time she is not doing well because the typhoon is there and they have no food, so she needs money for food. I banter back and forth for awhile and then log out as I had other things to do.
Her yhoo IM is alfaro_kathleen
I know X-man that you frown on this and I agree we should not let them know we know the scam, but sometimes I cannot help myself.
I promise not to do it again for at least two months.
FF
The profiles are disappearing too fast maybe someone from CB is reading this forum?
I hate it when the fake women look better than the real women. I need more practice in spotting them Amavida.
[QUOTE]C00900593
hi to evreyone i just member cus my father get stroke cus i dont have money thank you have a nice day and god bless.[/QUOTE]She's 37 and I'm not sure what she is looking for but someone must have told her something or maybe its Christmas time.
[Quote]803398
hi im looking a one guy to love me to care with me to love me for how i am for what i am and to love my all relatives and my famely and to accept me because im a poor waman i will found that a guy i will love him forever untill i breath[/QUOTE]I wouldn't hold my breath for this one. Is it me or has the quality dropped.
FF I have the same feeling about Zamboanga too many pretty duds.
Thanks hornygeorge, can I bring more than one GF? Is it a good place to lay around the beach? Is it easy to walk to town from the resorts?
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Here is one who added her profile on 1 Dec. She looks and sounds too good to be true.
No response from Manila, Thailand:D
Robb
If you guys looking for a wife be careful I had two girlfriends in Philippines through internet dating. One stayed loyal for a year then had a Filipino boyfreind while telling me she loves me hurry back etc. A least she was loyal for a yr. The next was one who I might have married, I found out she already was. How did I know these thing because my best friend lives in Philippines and found out for me you need a spy boys.
[QUOTE=Bilbo Baggins]
I hate it when the fake women look better than the real women. I need more practice in spotting them Amavida.
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Oh! you spoiled my fun! hehehehe :)
The one on the right is a male believe it or not... :)
Happy mongering
Amavida
First g'day guys, great forum here thanks Russell. Just giving you all the heads up that there are girls sending a new virus. Funny ust scandal. Avi. Exe. Via YM. I have notified the site but just letting everyone know not to accept that file, its apparently a nasty one.
I have been chatting with some dozens of girls from DIA and imho it is mostly a complete waste of time. U'd have much better luck just going into an internet cafe there and chatting to one of the many women there! LOL It's all about time and effort required. If you are in person it will click or not and you can move on. Some of these girls on DIA have consumed some hours of my time only to announce that they need a laptop or that they gotta have the ring before they have a physical relationship. This after I have made it clear in my profile and on YM that I am not looking for commitment! So happy hunting guys, once again thanks for this great forum to share information. I have spent about 3 years living and traveling in various parts of the Philippines while living in asia but of course alot of my info is already dated so great to see the updated info here. Ok hope I can contribute in some small way here, greetings to all!
BT
[QUOTE=Been There]First g'day guys, great forum here thanks Russell. Just giving you all the heads up that there are girls sending a new virus. Funny ust scandal. Avi. Exe. Via YM. I have notified the site but just letting everyone know not to accept that file, its apparently a nasty one.
BT[/QUOTE]
This is an ongoing problem but really the issue is the girl's PC and the fact that many are infected (the PCs that is gents !) and many do not have virus protection..:(
I tell them this and some listen to the advice and some even try to get protection as it is a real pain receiving the messages.
I learned this the hard way. Last year I got a YM from a bargirl and the message was check out my new pictures, with a link. I looked at the link and it a yahoo GeoCities link, so I thought that I could trust it. NOT! It was a Trojan and it hacked my yahoo email password and I couldn't get it reset. I lost 8 years of emails, hundreds of email addresses and on top of that, I used that email for all my accounts that send passwords. It took me a week to change everything, but thank god, I didn't lose anything in any accounts. I learned my lesson, I now run live protection amd it has stopped at least 2 attacks on my computer. It is well worth $40 a year.
Always use protection:D
Robb
Yep, some simple precautions can save you in the long run. 'spybot search and destroy' will remove most trojans and it is free (btw including the one I mentioned in my previous post) Get AVG free anti-virus and a decent firewall (I use zone alarm free) and I have. Touch wood. Rarely had a problem and if I have had one then it has been easily remedied. I am a newbie to YM but I run a server on IRC and have for many years. I think most of the problems people have are either because they have d/l an. Exe file. Which unless from an extremely reliable source is sheer madness!. Or having inadequate protection to prevent java or active script placing a trojan on your machine. I strongly recommend a shift to an alternate browser than explorer. I use mozilla and it is far superior both in functionality and security. Sorry if this is a little off topic but it is relevant in the sense that it seems the chat programs are the latest targets for virus distribution and perhaps a bit of info on security could prevent some of you guys falling victim. As you point out Robbaf the consequences can be a real PITA! I haven't checked out the 'Live Protection' m8 but I am arriving in Philippines in less than a month and I will ditch YM before then. When I get there the first places I will check out are the internet cafes. I fancy my chances much better in person from my experiences so far online.
[QUOTE=TrickyRick]If you guys looking for a wife be careful I had two girlfriends in Philippines through internet dating. One stayed loyal for a year then had a Filipino boyfreind while telling me she loves me hurry back etc. A least she was loyal for a yr. The next was one who I might have married, I found out she already was. How did I know these thing because my best friend lives in Philippines and found out for me you need a spy boys.[/QUOTE]
Tricky
I currently doing a married gal out of hong kong. I prefer MILF. Not seeking a wife, already have one, just seeking some fun and loving. Actually married one are less sticky and are just as hot. Some even have more money than you. Im living a bit dangerously, but i usually require atleast two good pics of their husband/bf, just in case the dude finds out. I just need to look at what he looks like, just incase he attempts to stalk me.
I usually like to send them home with some of my juices... One of them came back and told me that her hubby likes her so horny... she taste great being so hot and wet...
just my pov.
happy hunting..
I had good luck with DIA, although I did notice an increase in SPAM after I began using it.
I have gotten those bogus messages claiming link to pictures but NEVER click on ANY link unless I am CERTAIN it is from a trusted source.
My friend met a couple nice ones from Zamboanga so I must differ on that point. I believe that the highest incidence of scammers is in Manila, Makati and Angeles (and avoid the CB and DIA girls in those areas for that reason).
Finally, for BB: No way you can walk to town from the dive center at Punta Ballo (Sipalay). It is quite isolated. If you want easy access to a town I'd suggest Puerto Galera or maybe Moalboal, Cebu.
No reason you could not bring two girls out there (I did without complaint)
[QUOTE=Robbaf]C00901570
Here is one who added her profile on 1 Dec. She looks and sounds too good to be true.
No response from Manila, Thailand:D
Robb[/QUOTE]The chick on the picture is Ileana cruz - a popular South Indian actress from Goa, India.
If it sounds too good to be true its.
[QUOTE=Hornygeorge]
I have gotten those bogus messages claiming link to pictures but NEVER click on ANY link unless I am CERTAIN it is from a trusted source.
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I have had zip files sent to me by trusted friends without their knowledge, these trojans simply access there address book and start senting itself to everyone on there contact list.
Why would any girl want to send a virus to the hands that feeds them. I have been lucky, my computer has been able to detect these viruses and stop them from doing any damage.
Best free anti-virus download I ever made.
[QUOTE=TrickyRick]If you guys looking for a wife be careful I had two girlfriends in Philippines through internet dating. One stayed loyal for a year then had a Filipino boyfreind while telling me she loves me hurry back etc. A least she was loyal for a yr. The next was one who I might have married, I found out she already was. How did I know these thing because my best friend lives in Philippines and found out for me you need a spy boys.[/QUOTE]
No offense, but to leave a girl that you want to marry/love in the Philippines for a year, without you, is asking for trouble. I am not saying all girls are bad, but they are human and if someone comes along and it has been a year since you were there, they wonder in their mind if you are really coming back.
I met this girl at LA Cafe. She came in and sat by herself and didn't talk to anyone for over 1 1/2 hours. She looked scared and out of place. I finally got her to smile by teasing her and asked her if she wanted a drink. After another hour I asked her if she wanted to go with me and she said yes and I asked her how much and she said 1000P. Right then I knew that she didn’t really know the game.
I took her back to my hotel, the Diamond, and when she saw the suite she started to get excited. She ran to the sofa and laid down and said can I stay here all night. We watched a movie and then I said it time for bed. She started to cry and told me that she knew why girls went to LA Café, but she didn’t really want to go there and do that, but she needed money. Long story short, she told me that her friend had hooked her up with a visitor 7 months ago and she went on a three day trip with her friend and the guys. The guy fell in love with her and had been sending her money for 7 months (after three days together). He was supporting her so she could go to school and 2 months ago he wrote and told her sorry that he couldn’t keep supporting her. So, when her saving ran out, she went to LA.
I told her that it was okay, I would never force her to do anything and that she could sleep there without worry. I showered and then she went to shower. When she came out of the shower all she had on was the hotel robe. She got into bed and just laid there for about 15 minutes. Then very softly she came over kissed me and laid in my arms. It didn’t take 5 minutes and she opened her robe and proceeded to be the aggressor. It turned out to be one of the best that I had in the Philippines.
The girl in the picture may not be a hardcore but IMHO is really ugly. No wonder she was sitting in the corner.
While beauty is in the eye of the beholder I would not even glance at this girl twice whether she is a newbie or not. This is just my opinion. No flame please.
Given the choices of girls in LA cafe there are some real gems to be had. Many girls who are living in the surrounding provinces come once in a while for some extra cash. There are some housewives who come during the day also. Really good looking young girls come at night only.
But believe me all the girls know the game and play well. As for her asking 1000 Pesos for ST, that is the going rate for ugly girls. In fact is lucky to get any business at all. They all have stories to tell if you believe them. Do not fall for that.
Just a friendly advice.
One needs to be incredibly careful about opening up attachments such as photos and/or zip files. Most antivirus programs and webmail services such as Yahoo or Hotmail have the capability of scanning the file before opening it.
Never open an EXE file sent to you via email. Your just asking for trouble. I've found that using the following three programs together is very effective in greatly reducing your risk.
Avast Antivirus (free)
Zone Alarm Firewall (free)
SuperAntiSpyware (free)
Safe surfing!
I have read some of the comments regarding the LA Cafe. This is on the site of the old Rosie's Diner is it? Last time I was in Ermita it looked like Beirut. Thanks to Herr Lim! Good to see something rising from the ashes or do I have the location wrong? A security update on YM. I have just reinstalled 'snoop free' which identifies keyloggers and attempts at 'screen capture' by remote sources. It reported an illegal keylogger in YM which it blocked of course. I am beginning to think this YM has more holes than a swiss cheese. Be careful guys. You may lose more than your virginity! The link to snoop free is: [url]www.snoopfree.com/PrivacyShield. Htm[/url] and as the name suggests it is free too. I have been using YM the past two days since and had no functionality problems but each time I start it Snoop Free just informs me that the keylogger has been jammed.
As to why a girl would send a virus well, I had just told her. In Tagalog. That I was aware of her game and had no intention of playing it! I think the shock of my Tagalog and the realisation that she was wasting her precious internet time on a longer term scam was enough motivation. She realised I was no longer a canditate to feed her anything. Even the salami with the special sauce! anyway good to be a part of this forum, shields up guys!
I think the girl is lovely. That was good hunting in the LA Cafe.
[QUOTE=Sammon]The girl in the picture may not be a hardcore but IMHO is really ugly. No wonder she was sitting in the corner.
While beauty is in the eye of the beholder I would not even glance at this girl twice whether she is a newbie or not. This is just my opinion. No flame please.
Given the choices of girls in LA cafe there are some real gems to be had. Many girls who are living in the surrounding provinces come once in a while for some extra cash. There are some housewives who come during the day also. Really good looking young girls come at night only.
But believe me all the girls know the game and play well. As for her asking 1000 Pesos for ST, that is the going rate for ugly girls. In fact is lucky to get any business at all. They all have stories to tell if you believe them. Do not fall for that.
Just a friendly advice.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Sammon]The girl in the picture may not be a hardcore but IMHO is really ugly. No wonder she was sitting in the corner.
While beauty is in the eye of the beholder I would not even glance at this girl twice whether she is a newbie or not. This is just my opinion. No flame please.
Given the choices of girls in LA cafe there are some real gems to be had. Many girls who are living in the surrounding provinces come once in a while for some extra cash. There are some housewives who come during the day also. Really good looking young girls come at night only.
But believe me all the girls know the game and play well. As for her asking 1000 Pesos for ST, that is the going rate for ugly girls. In fact is lucky to get any business at all. They all have stories to tell if you believe them. Do not fall for that. Just a friendly advice.[/QUOTE]I am not trying to start a war, but if you don't think she is pretty, who cares???? My point of her sitting in corner was more that I have a few girls in LA Cafe jump on me when I enter, or you can watch them running to every new guy who enters. I have had a lot of 9 or 10's, but they were starfish. After being in the Philiipines for 7 months, I am looking for something different. Remember, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. BTW, I checked the last year and I saw no photo posts by you, just a lot advice.
Robb
[QUOTE=allwet]One needs to be incredibly careful about opening up attachments such as photos and/or zip files. Most antivirus programs and webmail services such as Yahoo or Hotmail have the capability of scanning the file before opening it.
Never open an EXE file sent to you via email. Your just asking for trouble. I've found that using the following three programs together is very effective in greatly reducing your risk.
Avast Antivirus (free)
Zone Alarm Firewall (free)
SuperAntiSpyware (free)
Safe surfing![/QUOTE]
Or just buy a Mac & your days of reinstalling again & again &
again & again over.
Happy mongering
Amavida
[QUOTE=Hornygeorge]
Finally, for BB: No way you can walk to town from the dive center at Punta Ballo (Sipalay). It is quite isolated. If you want easy access to a town I'd suggest Puerto Galera or maybe Moalboal, Cebu.
No reason you could not bring two girls out there (I did without complaint)[/QUOTE]Thanks Hg I was going to do self catering and there is no fridge in the place I'm renting. Are you stuck with the restaurants on the beach as the only places for food or can you buy your own food and cook it there? I am going with a lady and her friends I met on CB will hang around Bacolod first just to be sure it will work then go down and do some scuba diving.
I just bought a Mac still trying to figure out how to use it.
I prefer girls with good attitude myself the others are just for eye candy.
[QUOTE=Robbaf]I told her that it was okay, I would never force her to do anything and that she could sleep there without worry. It turned out to be one of the best that I had in the Philippines.[/QUOTE]
Great post and pics! Good things come to those who wait.
Chivalry is alive and well in the Philippines!
THis one has potential:
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Bb: Sounds like you have the right idea to try them out in Bacolod before getting to the bundok. Then again, if they really turn out poorly Bacolod has an active scene too and I am sure you could find suitable companions there too.
RobAF: you are wise to ignore the inevitable "that girl is ugly" type posts. Being a gentleman has its rewards, and I applaud your ethics.
[QUOTE=X Man]THis one has potential:
C00814738[/QUOTE]I'm out of her age bracket I wonder if she would compromise her standards. You should have read the fine print "i can do some things beyond human capacity.."
I want a mentally healthy one then at least one of us would be sane
Hg I noticed a lot of beauties there
Ditto Hornygeorge, I congratulate you Rob. People who see BS everywhere are generally creating at least half of it themselves. And yes! Who gives a f*** Sammon whether you think she is attractive. It contributes nothing to the forum unless of course you are contributing photos and saying "now this is hot"! I haven't followed the thread and I am short of time here but to the person who complained about feminine hygiene in the Philippines. That IS total bullshit. I have had relationships with alot of pinay in 3 years there. Bargirls and GF's. I am reasonably fluent in Tagalog. Pinay are amongst the most hygiene and cleanliness orientated women I have met but no they are not anally retentive enough to require a shower between 'sessions' To the mods. Puerile stuff that is just crap should be flagged as such. The guy posting that prolly doesnt know the meaning of deodorant himself!
Merry xmas to all,
please dont send money to the Philippines to you lovely camgurl etc etc etc.
US $ is 41, Euro is 60 to the pesos.... :(
So , please.... :D
Happy hunting
Blink
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4 kids! Now, I love kids, but what is going thru a guys mind to marry this woman? With all the lovely ladies at Cherry blsm, you would think he'd find one with less baggage.
This girl is really confused, she thinks she is Korean:D
C00889360
Wow, perfect English. Any ideas about this one?
X
[QUOTE=X Man]C00889360
Wow, perfect English. Any ideas about this one?
X[/QUOTE]
Always a bit suss when the English is better than mine...and generally I find that the picture is not what it seems..
[QUOTE=X Man]C00889360Wow, perfect English. Any ideas about this one?
X[/QUOTE]
I have no idea, but when she says, "I don`t want to exchange mindless chitchat about absolutely nothing, although that has its place and time." Does that mean if I text her, that she will not text me, "Did you eat your dinner...breakfast...lunch?":D
Robbaf, what are you complaining about!? "Did you eat your dinner?" is a complete sentence and doesn't include any text-style abbreviations. You should consider yourself lucky.
The first time I got a phone in the Philippines, a lady kept calling and then would hang up before I could answer...8-10 times that first day. I quickly grew to dislike her. Of course now I realize that was a cue for me to call her.
As for C00889360, I sent her an ambigiouis message, but mentioned I would soon be in the Philippines. Here quick response was also in flawless English, but otherwise was pretty typical. She included her email, phone and a hint that she has a problem.
X Man
[QUOTE=Robbaf]I have no idea, but when she says, "I don`t want to exchange mindless chitchat about absolutely nothing, although that has its place and time." Does that mean if I text her, that she will not text me, "Did you eat your dinner...breakfast...lunch?":D[/QUOTE]
Been There: I agree with you. OptimusPrime is the guy, but it is in the Angeles thread whee he opines how filthy and diseased filipinas are, not on this one.
About poor English, I give the bargirls a mulligan as English is not their first language (unlike many on here who cannot write coherent sentences even though it is their primary language).
One must guard against allowing the truncated style of chat used on YM and on cam sites to permeate ones everyday usage.
HG, I agree with you 100%.
One problem I have in chat is that I'm not quite sure if it is a language problem or a "busy" problem. I can type pretty fast and some of the women who have professions can keep up with me.
But those with are apparently less educated and / or from a place with slow connections lead me to speculate. I'm pretty sure that at least some of them are chatting with several people, or worse they are only chatting with me and have nothing to say, nor ask.
Needless to say, this has nothing (or everything) to do with how you will find them if you meet face to face. Actually, the ones who turn out to be nitwits, are usually the ones who provide the most opportunities...both sexually and intellectually. You can't properly read a book by its cover...the old cliche..with my amendment.
[QUOTE=Hornygeorge]Been There: I agree with you. OptimusPrime is the guy, but it is in the Angeles thread whee he opines how filthy and diseased filipinas are, not on this one.
About poor English, I give the bargirls a mulligan as English is not their first language (unlike many on here who cannot write coherent sentences even though it is their primary language).
One must guard against allowing the truncated style of chat used on YM and on cam sites to permeate ones everyday usage.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=X Man]HG, I agree with you 100%.
But those with are apparently less educated and / or from a place with slow connections lead me to speculate. I'm pretty sure that at least some of them are chatting with several people, or worse they are only chatting with me and have nothing to say, nor ask.
You can't properly read a book by its cover...the old cliche..with my amendment.[/QUOTE]
X Man
Look at their YM chat box when you are chatting and sometimes you see it says "...is typing a message.." and if you do not get it then a good chance she is chatting with another - so I ask her.
Also I always cam with the girl so then I watch the eyes as well. Can be wrong but invariably this works
Re the book and cover - agree. Met an ACM (and CB) girl last time, not the greatest of chat mates but very tasty in the sack and we had fun while her other ACM friend did YM chat before she also joined in :):)
[QUOTE=Wicked Roger]X Man
Look at their YM chat box when you are chatting and sometimes you see it says "...is typing a message.." and if you do not get it then a good chance she is chatting with another - so I ask her.
:):)[/QUOTE]Its not always a reliable indicator sometimes they just stop typing to think of something or read what you said and maybe delete their answer for a newer one. All that indicates is that she is typing at that moment doesnt tell you she is sending to anyone. You have to rely on other information to confirm your suspicions.
This one is really serious.....not sure what to make of this, convent, submissive yes but...
[QUOTE=Wicked Roger]This one is really serious.....not sure what to make of this, convent, submissive yes but...[/QUOTE]The story and the pictures don't go together she is too well dressed to have gone through those experiences. She has model looks, grooming and makeup, ear rings etc. My feeling is someone is jerking a chain maybe some school kids having fun. Anyone checked her out? I am still debating whether to sign up again.
[QUOTE=Bilbo Baggins]The story and the pictures don't go together she is too well dressed to have gone through those experiences. She has model looks, grooming and makeup, ear rings etc. My feeling is someone is jerking a chain maybe some school kids having fun. Anyone checked her out? I am still debating whether to sign up again.[/QUOTE]
Well I sent her a 'smile' and see what comes back but I insist on a webcam and that sometimes sorts them out especially if it is the uncle who is actually the person on the end and is trying a scam..but its fun a times so will let you know.
Agree the pictures and story do not match but then quite a few others don't either
[QUOTE=X Man]
As for C00889360, I sent her an ambigiouis message, but mentioned I would soon be in the Philippines. Here quick response was also in flawless English, but otherwise was pretty typical. She included her email, phone and a hint that she has a problem.
X Man[/QUOTE]I sent her a smile, and she immediately gave me her ym, phone #, email all in perfect English. She seems very verbose.
You think she is worth seeing?
[QUOTE=Robbaf]I I have had a lot of 9 or 10's, but they were starfish. After being in the Philiipines for 7 months, I am looking for something different.
Robb[/QUOTE]What's a "starfish"?
IMHO the best looking girls are not working girls. They are usually found in the mall or colleges.
[QUOTE=Wicked Roger]This one is really serious.....not sure what to make of this, convent, submissive yes but...[/QUOTE]Her story sounds like a bad novel. No way is that true. Chopped up relatives? She's playing to Westerner's ideas of terrorism.
[QUOTE=Styles12]What's a "starfish"?
IMHO the best looking girls are not working girls. They are usually found in the mall or colleges.[/QUOTE]A "Starfish" is a girl who provides a bad sexual experience, such as "just laying there", "not really into it", and "going through the motions." It is usually the really attractive ones who are like that, since they can get bar fined on their looks alone. At least that is what I've always taken it to mean.
Hope I helped you.
Gonzo
Been busy and have not logged on the CB in awhile. Yet look who just sent me a message just 5 hours earlier.C00889360
Now read the message she (or he or whatever and whoever is doing this scam) sent me.
"Hi there, this is Cici, from China, I just posted my profile to AFF, I am interested in knowing you more after read your profile, you are a kind person, I am looking for my soul mate, I am a kind and family tradition woman, with good personality, I am very sincere with communication, please write back if you find my profile is fascinated to you. Take care. Cici "
For those that do not know "AFF" stands for Adult friend Finder. It is a mostly 99 percent fake web site. Meaning 99% of the ads posted there are fake, especially the ads posted for the USA.
Not sure if I should respond and play a game or not. Do not really have the time.
FF
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year, Frequent Flier!
Do you get out to Asia much anymore? Hope you're well, let's catch up offline.
[QUOTE=Intransit]Merry Christmas and Happy New Year, Frequent Flier!
Do you get out to Asia much anymore? Hope you're well, let's catch up offline.[/QUOTE]
Hey Intransit,
Still working on my new business venture, which has kept me out of SE Asia for way too long and I am sure my absence is felt by the Filipino economy. I'm guessing a 3% GNP reduction in The Philippines from my trips to the PI plus money sent from the Filipinas in Hong Kong back to The Philippines. My hard earned dollars rolled over into their hard earned dollars being sent back to the Philippines so their family can do nothing all day.
See you in private chat.
FF
[QUOTE=Frequent Flier]Been busy and have not logged on the CB in awhile. Yet look who just sent me a message just 5 hours earlier.C00889360
Now read the message she (or he or whatever and whoever is doing this scam) sent me.
"Hi there, this is Cici, from China, I just posted my profile to AFF, I am interested in knowing you more after read your profile, you are a kind person, I am looking for my soul mate, I am a kind and family tradition woman, with good personality, I am very sincere with communication, please write back if you find my profile is fascinated to you. Take care. Cici "
FF[/QUOTE]As for C00889360
I just checked her profile it says her name is Mitch and she lives in Davao. Nothing about being Chinese there.
[QUOTE=Styles12]As for C00889360
I just checked her profile it says her name is Mitch and she lives in Davao. Nothing about being Chinese there.[/QUOTE]
I was doing some research from another post earlier and I guess my copy did not copy properly before I pasted...if you know what I mean.
Here is the profile from the girl in China who sent me a message and mentioned she was a member of AFF.
C00875229
If she is real then she also posts on AFF in China I guess. If there is anyone who does AFF in China they may be able to get some good action here. I know I have read some post in the China section where a guy uses AFF to some success.
Thanks for the heads up Styles12
FF
Xman and others,
Hope you can give me your advice on this. Headed over to PI next week, and plan to meet at least three online cuties with whom I've been chatting for some time. Facing the age old dilemna of what to say when I make my exit from one to the other. I've come up with the following: tell them I have close Filipino friends here at home and they want me to visit their relatives in another town there for a few days. And that I will be insulting my friends if I don't go see their relatives. I know I shouldnt worry about this so much, but I've bonded with each of them and I don't want to be an asshole and hurt them intentionally. I know that goes against the Monger's Creed ("find 'them, fuck 'them, forget 'them"), but I am who I am.
I've solicited advice on this topic before, but I just wanted to run this idea by everyone.
Thanks for any advice!
But some guys like that.
Longhorn,
Well, the ones who work or have curfews are best because they have to leave. Then just ignore their messages the next morning ...tell them you left the room without your phone or something. You don't need a very convincing white lie - the idea is to save face. Very important when dealing with Asians.
Another I use is "I have to meet a friend. " They will immediatel assume it is a woman...then you can get all indignant and say it is your "American friend who is married to a Filipina". Now, I'm a terrible liar. Fortunately, I have met some of the ISG people who post here and so I can honestly say I have "friends..." who happen to not be Filipina.
*** Caution ...the walls talk / keep your fibs to a minimum to avoid unwanted drama....
1) Just last week spent time with a real sweety in Davao. I even went to Samal island and met her family --- daddy used a machete to cut up a coconut for me. Two days later, I'm walking down a street in downtown Davao (my girl was at work) and who do I run into but...DADDY! Luckily I wasn't with another girl.
2) Last year..also in Davao. I tell a girl I will go boating with a friend (a fib). Late in the day I get a text from the girl, "My friend said she say you on abc street." Huh? Oh, yea, just got back from the boating trip... Again, Luckily I wasn't with another girl.
3) An old flame from Cebu just sent me an email saying...."I saw you in the mall on Friday..you walked right past me."
4) The cute girl (I had been flirting / passed her my phone number a few days earlier) at the front desk of the hotel mentions, "Oh, I saw you at xxxx yesterday." In this case, I was with a woman.
None of these events caused me any grief, but could have if circumstances had been slightly different.
X Man
[QUOTE=Longhorn2000]Xman and others,
Hope you can give me your advice on this. Headed over to PI next week, and plan to meet at least three online cuties with whom I've been chatting for some time. Facing the age old dilemna of what to say when I make my exit from one to the other. I've come up with the following: tell them I have close Filipino friends here at home and they want me to visit their relatives in another town there for a few days. And that I will be insulting my friends if I don't go see their relatives. I know I shouldnt worry about this so much, but I've bonded with each of them and I don't want to be an asshole and hurt them intentionally. I know that goes against the Monger's Creed ("find 'them, fuck 'them, forget 'them"), but I am who I am.
I've solicited advice on this topic before, but I just wanted to run this idea by everyone.
Thanks for any advice![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Longhorn2000]Facing the age old dilemna of what to say when I make my exit from one to the other.[/QUOTE]
Might I suggest the truth? Seriously, I don't know why you guys insist on digging your own graves all the time!
Tell each woman that you think she's beautiful, enjoy her company, blah, blah, blah, say that you fully intend to spoil her, take her places, buy her gifts and take her to heaven in the bedroom (or whatever) ...but make it clear that you are only here for a short time and that she is not going to be the only woman you're giving your attention to. Tell them straight out that you've been talking to others online and that you've promised to hook up with each of them. It's not a nice thing to be told, but it's MUCH nicer than finding out the bloke you're sleeping with has duped you and made you look like a complete idiot.
Even a half-truth is better than a complete lie. For example, telling each woman that you've started seeing someone else, but you still 'really like' her as well and could today's rendezvous be our little secret? That way if you get caught with another woman, she'll think it's your girlfriend and (hopefully!) keep quiet.
The best lies are those which only slightly deviate from the truth - and they also need a decent backup plan, which yours doesn't have. What are you going to say when your girl asks to come with you to visit your 'friends relatives'? Instead of being jealous and sad that you're with another woman, she's gonna be left feeling hurt and ashamed that (in her mind) you think she's too uneducated/ugly/uncouth/whatever to introduce her to your friends.
The truth is uncomfortable, but ultimately it will make things easier for all concerned.
PS. Telling the truth in this situation may also lead to you receiving 10 times better sex. Women are naturally competitive creatures. If each girl knows that you're intending to see other women, they will compete for your attention...each one will try to make it so good that you won't want to move on to the next one.
RN "digging graves"???? " "suggesting the truth"?
Well, RN has some good ideas about "white lies", "fibs", and other "simplifications". I find it's better to tell these "truths" only after being asked....
The best scenario is to always tell the *** half / truth ...even if it is "Yes, I have 99 chat friends in Cebu....but you're my favorite...".
X
[QUOTE=Rubber Nursey]Might I suggest the truth? Seriously, I don't know why you guys insist on digging your own graves all the time!
Tell each woman that you think she's beautiful, enjoy her company, blah, blah, blah, say that you fully intend to spoil her, take her places, buy her gifts and take her to heaven in the bedroom (or whatever) ...but make it clear that you are only here for a short time and that she is not going to be the only woman you're giving your attention to. Tell them straight out that you've been talking to others online and that you've promised to hook up with each of them. It's not a nice thing to be told, but it's MUCH nicer than finding out the bloke you're sleeping with has duped you and made you look like a complete idiot.
Even a half-truth is better than a complete lie. For example, telling each woman that you've started seeing someone else, but you still 'really like' her as well and could today's rendezvous be our little secret? That way if you get caught with another woman, she'll think it's your girlfriend and (hopefully!) keep quiet.
The best lies are those which only slightly deviate from the truth - and they also need a decent backup plan, which yours doesn't have. What are you going to say when your girl asks to come with you to visit your 'friends relatives'? Instead of being jealous and sad that you're with another woman, she's gonna be left feeling hurt and ashamed that (in her mind) you think she's too uneducated/ugly/uncouth/whatever to introduce her to your friends.
The truth is uncomfortable, but ultimately it will make things easier for all concerned.[/QUOTE]
When I stayed nearly two months in Manila awhile back, I was always up front with the non-p4p filipinas I met that I was meeting other girls. I was deliberately vague about when and where I was meeting others, but they definitely knew I was meeting them. Of course, they are always curious to find out who you met and if you have a gf yet. You can answer those questions vaguely as well. Those who didn't want to deal with my butterfly ways left quickly or chose not to meet me in the first place. The rest were pretty good. The virgins were left alone as I'm not into popping cherries. A few of them fell in love, but I reminded them of what I had said at the beginning so I did not run into any problems. Word of warning: they are very jealous; it can come out when you are getting texts from other girls while one is with you. You should boot them straightaway if it becomes a problem. Finally, it helps that Manila is a big city.
There was some good stuff in the last few threads. In my younger days of working with bands, my best friend Randy taught me to always make the "story" as close to the truth as possible. Experience has taught me that Randy and Rubber Nursery are right. At least for me, because I am a [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url]-poor liar.
But I digress. I am here today to ask about the Filipina culture and mentality. Though I am a monger, I also visit the Philippines in search of a wife. Over the last 15 months I met a number of women through Filipina Heart. In the 3 instances that culminated in a visit, the women insisted that I come to see them and only them. At the time I was ok with that, because each time I thought I was coming to see Miss Right and that we would happily sail off into the sunset. Oh how naive. BUT, now after 3 failures, I can no longer “afford” to follow that rationale. “Afford” includes the time and the emotional stress as well as the monetary burden.
Through a series of events, one of my prospects introduced me to her cousin who is living in CA and was married to an American last April. This girl, Virgie, has offered to introduce me to some of her friends who she thinks fit what I am looking for. She has also insisted that I see several girls on 1 trip and hopefully will find someone compatible after we meet. There are 3 friends of hers I am meeting in March. What I learned from Virgies approach is because it was Virgie’s idea, her friends are willing to meet me – know I am meeting others - even though one told me she has turned down guys like this before because she “doesn’t want to feel like a contestant in a beauty pageant” and that “it is demeaning”.
From a purely Western point of view, I think it is outrageous to make such demands. I am traveling half-way around the world, entirely at my time and expense, meeting on their doorstep, and if we aren’t compatible..... their life goes on as usual, while I am the big loser with no other alternative but to come home and maybe try again later. BUT when you suggest that you think it is outrageous, they just don’t get it. So when Chelle recently suggested the same thing – “come just to see me” – I asked her what guarantees she will give me in advance that she will marry me. Duhhhhhh was basically her answer.
Can someone shed some light on the thought process these girls are using? Is it low self-esteem? Wouldn’t the opportunity of possibly meeting Mr. Right be compelling enough? Is the concept of "no risk – no reward" a foreign one?
BTW I am set to make my last trip to Manila in March. I have 7 days and at present there are 12 girls on my “dance” card.
I guess I’ve rambled on enough for now. Enjoy and Happy Trails.
Thanks,
Bob
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[QUOTE=Longhorn2000]Xman and others,
Hope you can give me your advice on this. Headed over to PI next week, and plan to meet at least three online cuties with whom I've been chatting for some time. Facing the age old dilemna of what to say when I make my exit from one to the other. I've come up with the following: tell them I have close Filipino friends here at home and they want me to visit their relatives in another town there for a few days. And that I will be insulting my friends if I don't go see their relatives. I know I shouldnt worry about this so much, but I've bonded with each of them and I don't want to be an asshole and hurt them intentionally. I know that goes against the Monger's Creed ("find 'them, fuck 'them, forget 'them"), but I am who I am.
I've solicited advice on this topic before, but I just wanted to run this idea by everyone.
Thanks for any advice![/QUOTE]
The Nurse gives excellent advice for another reason. It may become difficult to remember the story you told. That is the problem with a lie. The truth is placed in the memory banks in a different way than a made up story. That is why it is easier for police to catch criminals years later. They cannot remember the intricate story they fabricated, so usually try to come up with the same story and it doesn't ring true to the original story. All they had to do was say "I have forgotten, it was so long ago."
Then if you are a drinker and drinking to the point that it affects your memory you have even more difficulty remembering the story you told.
For me I have always had business to handle while in Asia. So I employ the half truth the nurse talks about. I say I have business to handle either in another city in the Philippines or in Hong Kong. I am usually in a big city so I do not worry about being seen. I also will change hotels.
Never been questioned or had a text message that I was seen. If I did get the "my friend saw you" text message I would just say it wasn't me. Must have been a westerner that looked like me. If she said her friend was sure it was me I would say well did she talk to this guy? Why not? If it was me she should have said hi? Why would she not say hi to me? Because she wasn't sure it was me... that is why. I am not there, it could not have been me.
As a good friend of mine once told me deny deny deny. Even if they have a picture of you..you say " I admit it looks like me but it simply isn't me.
The business story leaves you with much more room to tell your story. The other party did not show up...showed up late...changed the meeting time...was useless and not a good business person to deal with. The meeting went well and we have another meeting scheduled....I could not text you back because I was in a meeting or having dinner with the person I had the business meeting with. I have even went out at night on my own saying that I was going to have a business dinner meeting.
You will receive lots of request for employment, but you just say you do not mix business with friends. It is not good for business.
Again easier for me as I am there for business most of the time and taking a break when I am meeting girls.
Also I was not promising relationships with girls. I had ongoing relationships where I would see the same girl or girls during my visits, but not anything that was going to escalate to a serious relationship. Not that they would not have liked this and if they knew the level of my mongering some serious jealousy would have erupted. So I did my story telling.
FF
[QUOTE=Towelboy2010]
she “doesn’t want to feel like a contestant in a beauty pageant” and that “it is demeaning”.
[/QUOTE]
You should ask her what she is looking for in a man? Is it nothing? Does she have no criteria? If you choose her she will agree to marry you no questions asked. Will she blind fold herself and just listen to you and if she likes your voice and your story she will marry you? Is she comparing your bank account to other bank accounts of guys that may support her family better? If you have no job she is going to marry you and accept you into her family to live in the Philippines with her family till death do you part?
Point is we all have some criteria we are using in picking a mate. Some of this criteria may seem shallow and if so the person may pay for being shallow later in life by choosing an incompatible mate.
When a girl gives you this story I think they have something to hide. By the way, many lie about their age and if they have children. When they insist that they be the only one you meet and try to monopolize all your time I would be more worried about some scam they are looking to run on you than if you are losing a potential future mate.
FF
This thread has been quiet lately.
I hope FF has given TB (towelboy) something to think about...and of course TB has given any newbies something to think about. Sometimes things seem so obvious that I never think to mention it.
So, here it is again...
If you are going to Philippines to meet chat friends, MEET AS MANY AS YOU POSSIBLY CAN!
I'm pretty sure I have a completely different strategy than TB, so he may very well have different results...but this is what I consistently find with chat friends (I use Cherry blossom, but may try something different next time.)
1) My first choices usually aren't as interesting as I expected. On the last visit, Ms. #1 replied to my text with "who are you?". Yes, I had included my name.... She wasn't even in the city I thought she was in. Duh.
2) Rarely will the woman be as good looking as the pictures. And dark or blurry cam is a warning sign too. Bad comlplexions don't show up on cam.
3) Although I never use the marriage word and am very up front about this being a "friend" meeting, I get the stinky on my dinky about 40% of the time at the first meeting. As for the other 60%, in most cases I just didn't pursue things. (note: there were a few that were oh so fine...and I pursued...and they still eluded me.)
As for point 3, someone once asked me if it was possible to bed the penpal / chat types, so I did some calculation and that's what I came up with. I hope I don't sound like a high school boy bragging about conquests. I also don't want to give some illusion about the women being "sluts". That's not the vibe I get.
It's more like some exotic guy comes to town, he takes her to places she never knew existed (or could never afford), his hotel costs more than she earns in a month, the room is so clean...hot shower...nice television with cable....
For the average Filipina there is going to be some sensory overload here. And, well, at the same time you are asking her to teach you some words, being sweet, touching her, holding her hand... Has my point been made?
To paraphrase my friend Mahku: A nice view ...opens legs.
Back to towelboy, stop talking marriage with these women. Just meet (Freudian slip, I first typed "meat") them and pursue them in some romantic way. Much better to say, "I came her for a holiday, to go to the beach, but I met you and fell in love....it's my destiny....marry me!" Talking marriage online with someone you never met sounds so lame, so desperate. No wonder they give you the "duh".
**** For example...one lady, not nearly as cute as her CB profile, but cute enough, friendly...first date is in the Fuente Osmena Circle to see the Christmas tree. I arrive late having had a few beers at Silver Dollar and tell the half-truth, "I was with friends...sorry to be late." (Friend was a bikini clad bar girl who was telling me she licks pussy, sucks black dick, ...and is always eager to please her customer...)
Back to my CB date, a factory worker, traveled over two hours to meet me, not native to Cebu...she had brought an annoying chubby friend who did the interrogation routine. I eventually told her I was tired of the interrogation. (I fully expected to be back at Silver Dollar before the night was over.)
Chubby sort of got the message and then did her interrogation in Visayan to my date, and my date translated... I went along with this for a while and finally confronted chubby once again... in a polite, joking way of course.
Well, we got something to eat on the rooftop of Holiday Plaza (nice view) and then down to my room to relax. Much to my surprise, chubby had to go. They both lived about two hours out of town my jeepney / maybe 45 min by taxi, and both had to work the next morning. I gave chubby taxi fare...
(Note to newbies: some out of town girls will take some convoluted jeepney route or bus route to meet you...and you can expect them to be late....very late.... I've tried to tell them to take a taxi as I would pay for it, but they are reluctant if they have never met you, which is understandable. No matter how bad the date goes, pay for their transportation. If the date goes well, give them enough to come back by taxi...plus some. If they say it is too much, make up some half-truth...."use it for your phone to text me..."
So, chubby leaves and after the intial hugs and kisses she declared that her jeans are wet. Surprised, I thought she had spilled something. Hmm, no drinks in sight. I thought I had misheard -- my little brain had taken over and things seemed foggy. Back to kissing and hugging and she says the same thing. Huh? I tuck my hand into her crotch and sure enough....some very wet jeans.
"Take them off".
She did.
6 am wake up so she could get to work the next morning.
X Man
Just returned from my Cherry trip, and let me say that X-Man is dead on correct once again. I only had three chat friends lined up, so there was not much room for error. Mission accomplished with girl # 1, and I was quite satisfied. Girl #2 promised lots of sex upon my arrival, and was then chaperoned by her parents on our first two dates. There should not have been a second date, but I gave her the benefit of the doubt, which resulted in nothing but wasted time. And I was not attracted to girl # 3. Next trip, I plan to have a minimum of ten on the dance card.
[QUOTE=X Man]It's more like some exotic guy comes to town, he takes her to places she never knew existed (or could never afford), his hotel costs more than she earns in a month, the room is so clean...hot shower...nice television with cable....[/QUOTE]
....and her friends and family will never know who, where and when!
Nice report X Man!
Hi to all,
recently met one of my chatroomscontacts. I met her before and we had 2 nice nights together. SHe told me she is my gf now, I agreed, cause thats the game.
Back home I send her some money to built up some business for me, should have seen it, of course a lot or excuses why it didnt worked.
Now that I live in PI, I met her again, just to get some free bangs for the money I spend before...well, I met her again and she put on some wheight, my spidey senses went on alert. In my hotel room she told me its ok to screw her without condom, which wasnt ok to her when we met first time. My spidey senses went on higher alert.
I got suspicious. Next morning I send her shopping and told her to get her things also. She refused, but took the shopping money to check out sm clark with her friend.
Went to the frontdesk with her bag and told them that my gf will pick it up, if she will ask about me, just tell her I changed hotel room. Then I txt her and told her I had to change my hotel cause they had earlier reservation and I had to leave. She of course txt me a lot of excuses, like she spend al the money for shopping and had no place to sleep, etc etc...a few miscalls then it was quiet again.
I didnt mind she was f..ing around, what I mind that she thinks how stupid I was to buy her story or not to see she got pregnant allready.
As of now forget all chatgurls for serious relation (marriage etc) just keep them as f..ckfriends and if the moneything comes up get another one.
Who knows what her plan, I know its the secound time she got pregnant but guess she will get rid of the baby, the father, well its one of some loser pinoy who will hide once he got confronted with the hospital bill and then come back if he want to see his 3 minutes-result of real love LOL....
Anyway dont get serious to chatgurls, for p4p its ok, nothing else...
Just a story I had to tell cause Im a bit bored today, hahahahahaha....
Happy hunting
Blink
My experience of Dating Site girls is different.
For me 95% of them have turned out to be better looking than their pics.
The keepers (long term gf's) have been monogamous (or as near as I can tell).
I guess if the risk reward ratio is skewed in their mind in your favour they will stay pretty loyal, if not, wellll.... bye!
I have had so many great girls to choose from in so many places its a crying shame that I have to choose only a few.
Happy Mongering!
Amavida
See the link below for full report. Here for a day, got chatting with a newbie CB girl in a spare 30 minutes (focused on young, cute and Manila) and 2 hours later she is in my bed, 21 yrs old, wonderful rack and will certainly see her again on my return..
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=701724&postcount=1557[/url]
Interesting discussion by RN and others about how to manage seeing several girls on the same trip without offending any of them. While the general rule should be to be as honest as possible given common sense and female sensibilities, it CERTAINLY is possible to be too honest. I learned that lesson from my ex wife in whom I reposed total trust and, stupidly in retrospect, told her all sorts of stories about sexual adventures I had before meeting her. She NEVER forgot a single detail of the exploits I mentioned and used those statements against me for the rest of our marriage.
CB type girls expect you will be communicating with several other girls BEFORE you meet them. Once you bed them, they will be much less tolerant of any perceived interest in pursuing the other candidates. SOME will accept their role gracefully, but those are the ones you need to be careful about because deep down almost all Filipinas are jealous and if they never show any jealous the chance that she is really into you is slim.
790027 Busty, not as cute as the pics.
702220 Very petite, good conversation, you will have to take her shopping. I dumped her when she asked me to take her to Borocay. Does have a bikini.
The little story is acutally...very little....insignificant.
Glad you could post your story, but how on earth do you come to the conclusion that we should not involve ourselves with chat girls?
We appreciate hearing about one guys story about his fun and heartbreak with one girl. Thanks. What I don't understand is your conclusion that everyone should treat chat ladies as p4p. WHat is that? You had a bad experience. Sorry dude, I feel for you, I understand your feelings, but the world doesn't revolve around you. Unfortunately, it doesn't revolve around me either. And 95 % of the chat ladies
Oh, you mentioned that she went to "SM clark!. So this is an Angeles City experience. Um, at the first meeting did you ever inquire about her occupation? Maybe "nursing student"? Or volunteer at the AIDS clinic?
If you find anyone in chat who lives in AC (or Pampanga), you might as well ask where she works. I personally wouldn't treat them any different regardless. I would be more wary though. And I wouldn't expect anything while I was gone...not with a pro, nor with a regular girl. Hey, you aint there. How hard is that to figure out?
"that's the game" "I sent her some money"
DUH...
X
[QUOTE=Blink157]Hi to all,
recently met one of my chatroomscontacts. I met her before and we had 2 nice nights together. SHe told me she is my gf now, I agreed, cause thats the game.
Back home I send her some money to built up some business for me, should have seen it, of course a lot or excuses why it didnt worked.
Now that I live in PI, I met her again, just to get some free bangs for the money I spend before...well, I met her again and she put on some wheight, my spidey senses went on alert. In my hotel room she told me its ok to screw her without condom, which wasnt ok to her when we met first time. My spidey senses went on higher alert.
I got suspicious. Next morning I send her shopping and told her to get her things also. She refused, but took the shopping money to check out sm clark with her friend.
Went to the frontdesk with her bag and told them that my gf will pick it up, if she will ask about me, just tell her I changed hotel room. Then I txt her and told her I had to change my hotel cause they had earlier reservation and I had to leave. She of course txt me a lot of excuses, like she spend al the money for shopping and had no place to sleep, etc etc...a few miscalls then it was quiet again.
I didnt mind she was f..ing around, what I mind that she thinks how stupid I was to buy her story or not to see she got pregnant allready.
As of now forget all chatgurls for serious relation (marriage etc) just keep them as f..ckfriends and if the moneything comes up get another one.
Who knows what her plan, I know its the secound time she got pregnant but guess she will get rid of the baby, the father, well its one of some loser pinoy who will hide once he got confronted with the hospital bill and then come back if he want to see his 3 minutes-result of real love LOL....
Anyway dont get serious to chatgurls, for p4p its ok, nothing else...
Just a story I had to tell cause Im a bit bored today, hahahahahaha....
Happy hunting
Blink[/QUOTE]
Amen to that, pinays are individuals, met some I would trust with my life, and some I wouldn't trust with yours! I lived in HK for over five years and used to fly to Pinas monthly, you got stung blink, fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me, get over it, but a guy who is fooled by a pinay is the same guy who is fooled back home by a lady, no different!
[QUOTE=X Man]The little story is acutally...very little....insignificant.
Glad you could post your story, but how on earth do you come to the conclusion that we should not involve ourselves with chat girls?
We appreciate hearing about one guys story about his fun and heartbreak with one girl. Thanks. What I don't understand is your conclusion that everyone should treat chat ladies as p4p. WHat is that? You had a bad experience. Sorry dude, I feel for you, I understand your feelings, but the world doesn't revolve around you. Unfortunately, it doesn't revolve around me either. And 95 % of the chat ladies
Oh, you mentioned that she went to "SM clark!. So this is an Angeles City experience. Um, at the first meeting did you ever inquire about her occupation? Maybe "nursing student"? Or volunteer at the AIDS clinic?
If you find anyone in chat who lives in AC (or Pampanga), you might as well ask where she works. I personally wouldn't treat them any different regardless. I would be more wary though. And I wouldn't expect anything while I was gone...not with a pro, nor with a regular girl. Hey, you aint there. How hard is that to figure out?
"that's the game" "I sent her some money"
DUH...
X[/QUOTE]
Hi to all,
ok maybe Im wrong to say not to meet them or avoid them, but my experiences aint gud at all with kampampangans, doesnt matter if they in the p4p business in bars or in sites (paid chatsites)
The point is, ANgeles city have to many foreigners and "locals" have another opinion of the "value" of money foreigners given to them.
Starts with the so called "tip", if you give 100 pesos you considered to be a cheap charlie etc etc, if you do that in a province like la union, negros or any city who doesnt see foreigners that often, value is different.
If you looking for a really serious gurl you have to go to the provinces., My gf is from La union, university student and nver ask any money, even for transportation from me..thats why she is my gf :D
Angeles city is a fun place,, you go there for fun, dont get serious...Chatgurls from paid chatsites (acm, abc ect) are all bola2, especially those from Pampanga (my experiences and I can name several gurls or many examples how much bola2 they are) All I want is to tell "heads up" to newbies..not to guys like you Xmen, ur a proffesional, hehehehe....
Ok maybe one example from a gurl I know...
she works on acm and abc, her names ar shelvygudess, acm gudess or acmgodess etc etc..She is originally from Pampanga and I know her from work (dont want to be specific on that :D)
She makes good money on chats, plus her variaous boyfriends sent her money for her "visa" , hehehe, she still dont have one yet :D....Happens to me that we had a liason, means I screwed her withoput paying anything..au contraire I earned with her (yeah I know thats bad) and the big news now, she is a lesbian and lives with her lesbian gf :D....
Thats just one example, I could name many....
Happy hunting and heads up!!
Blink
While I think Blink's original post may have exaggerated the danger of online dating a bit, his clarification makes sense (he is only trying to warn newbies).
I completely agree with him that anybody in Pampanga (whether a native AKA Kapamapangan or transplant) should be viewed with great suspicion. Lying and deceit is a way of life there, there is so much temptation it is almost irresistible, and those looking for a trustworthy GF are looking in the wrong place if she has EVER even been to Pampanga. The farther from Angeles, and the less exposure to foreigners, the better for those seeking a real GF.
The upside to online girls in AC is you need not make a special trip to remote provinces to meet her, and if things don't pan out you can always console yourself with a hooker.
[QUOTE=Hornygeorge]While I think Blink's original post may have exaggerated the danger of online dating a bit, his clarification makes sense (he is only trying to warn newbies).
I completely agree with him that anybody in Pampanga (whether a native AKA Kapamapangan or transplant) should be viewed with great suspicion. Lying and deceit is a way of life there, there is so much temptation it is almost irresistible, and those looking for a trustworthy GF are looking in the wrong place if she has EVER even been to Pampanga. The farther from Angeles, and the less exposure to foreigners, the better for those seeking a real GF.
The upside to online girls in AC is you need not make a special trip to remote provinces to meet her, and if things don't pan out you can always console yourself with a hooker.[/QUOTE]
yes, thats what I trying to say...
Happy hunting :)
Blink
Blink and HG have already clarifed and I agree one should be careful with girls living in AC -- esp. those in the flesh trade. Manila girls can be a pain too. Of course you have no guarantee that the sweety you meet in Cebu or Cagayan hasn't just returned from AC...or Singapore, or....
The original line that got my goat was:
"As of now forget all chatgurls for serious relation (marriage etc) just keep them as f..ckfriends and if the moneything comes up get another one."
ALL? Well, I'm not in a rush for a serious relation, but I've met some really nice people thru chat and keep in touch with many. I'd let more than a few marry my brother. (no, just kidding. I wouldn't wish that on any woman)
I've met some really nice ladies and I've met some really nice and naughty ladies. As for chatting with AC girls and cam girls, many have been honest with me about their work.
Nevertheless, we always hear about newbies making big mistakes. Love is blind.
Maybe some of us regulars should make a ten commandments list for newbies.
1) Thou shalt not propose marriage to any cyber girlfriend.
2) Thou shalt not send more than $100 a month, and then only after consulting ISG members for advice.
3) Thou shalt never put all eggs in one basket-- have several ladies lined up before departure.
4) Thou shalt not tell cyber cunts about p4p fun (that includes ISG).
5) Within reasonable limits, thou shalt treat women with care and respect so as not to screw it up for the next guy (ie, don't give her a disease or a pregnancy or a lifelong hate for men.)
6) ?
[QUOTE=Hornygeorge]While I think Blink's original post may have exaggerated the danger of online dating a bit, his clarification makes sense (he is only trying to warn newbies).
I completely agree with him that anybody in Pampanga (whether a native AKA Kapamapangan or transplant) should be viewed with great suspicion. Lying and deceit is a way of life there, there is so much temptation it is almost irresistible, and those looking for a trustworthy GF are looking in the wrong place if she has EVER even been to Pampanga. The farther from Angeles, and the less exposure to foreigners, the better for those seeking a real GF.
The upside to online girls in AC is you need not make a special trip to remote provinces to meet her, and if things don't pan out you can always console yourself with a hooker.[/QUOTE]
C blossom C00710990 Looks like a nice couple, and I wish them the very best. Read the lady's comments. She even give the guys acct. number - which curiously didn't come up when I searched it.
Commandment 6 Do not allow any virtual **** to meet you at the airport.
footnote: Guy common sense rule #1, empower women (in their minds), but always stay in control and show confidence.
"Oh, going to the Philippines is scary, please meet me at the airport and take care of me..."
I'm not trying to take the [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] out of anyone. I once followed a beautiful woman to a strange land (not PI) and depended on her for many things. She was such the nurturing type, ...also the take control type as I later realized. It was so sweet that she met me at the airport.
Eventually, I got a job, made money, made some friends, got a life, and eventually found that both balls were still intact. Progeny induced me to put up with Ms control freak for several years.
Passion was what we had when she visited me in the US. In la la land, it was almost nonexistent. After only once a month, dead fish fks, she says...over morning coffee, "Let's have sex tonight, I want another baby."
I probably should have moved the coffee aside and giving her a good fk. Fortunately, I just told her "No, too late for that".
She divorced me a after a few too many of my trips to Thailand and that incident with the college girl.
I still feel guilty. Very guilty. Toward the end, we moved out of the apartment. The sweet college girl, her nickname was "muffy", visited. The apartment was completely empty, cold, no lights, no curtains. I still had a key though. I fked her all night on the carpet. Poor girl probably still has the rug burn scar on her back. Damn I feel guilty about that.
X
[QUOTE=X Man]Blink and HG have already clarifed and I agree one should be careful with girls living in AC -- esp. those in the flesh trade. Manila girls can be a pain too. Of course you have no guarantee that the sweety you meet in Cebu or Cagayan hasn't just returned from AC...or Singapore, or....
The original line that got my goat was:
"As of now forget all chatgurls for serious relation (marriage etc) just keep them as f..ckfriends and if the moneything comes up get another one."
ALL? Well, I'm not in a rush for a serious relation, but I've met some really nice people thru chat and keep in touch with many. I'd let more than a few marry my brother. (no, just kidding. I wouldn't wish that on any woman)
I've met some really nice ladies and I've met some really nice and naughty ladies. As for chatting with AC girls and cam girls, many have been honest with me about their work.
Nevertheless, we always hear about newbies making big mistakes. Love is blind.
Maybe some of us regulars should make a ten commandments list for newbies.
1) Thou shalt not propose marriage to any cyber girlfriend.
2) Thou shalt not send more than $100 a month, and then only after consulting ISG members for advice.
3) Thou shalt never put all eggs in one basket-- have several ladies lined up before departure.
4) Thou shalt not tell cyber cunts about p4p fun (that includes ISG).
5) Within reasonable limits, thou shalt treat women with care and respect so as not to screw it up for the next guy (ie, don't give her a disease or a pregnancy or a lifelong hate for men.)
6) ?[/QUOTE]
hi,
yes its for newbies...not for man*****s like us :D....
agree with ur first comendment...dont do that, thats kind of desperate and stupid, who want to marry a gurl which you have never met in person or lived together for a certain time. The chatgurls dont belive that anyway..
2nd comend..dont send any money at all...If you never visit the gurl before or meet her in person dont DONT send any money..all the gurls I have send money was a waste of time, 80% of them I have screwd but sending them money to make me as their BF , yes ME think I was their serious BF was completely wrong and overpriced for the intercourse thing, means if you there, enough woman you can score, you just need a bit time, which I have now :D
If your together with her allready, its your decession if you send money...I can only tell, my gf NEVER asked any money from me...more on that laters
3rd commend..yes, totally agree, Im sure gurls doing the same thing, on the other site you realy have to be there and be quick also, justa story of mine, when i was dating the gurl on chatsite and we talked and then meet up in my hotel :D, some weeks later she gave up work and now live with a FilAm somewhere in Manila who is on site and tc of here..and her relatives LOL...guess I will hear from her again, soon or later, but not sure if Im still interested :D...This shows if a gurl really look for somebody who can take care of her and somebody comes upo with a gud offer, she is gone..SO, have many gurls lined up.
4th commendm: yeah be romantic and dont tell about ISG, agree with that
5th, yes agree with that. My gf is virgin (still) and I respect that. YOu can be with a gurl for a certain of time and dont have to do the sex thing, if you really love her..and there are plenty of other things you can do ;-)
Talkin about my gf and maybe advise to newbies how to get serious GF.
My GF is the sister of my buddy who lives allready 20 years in the Philippines. He has been together with her since 4 years. He is working and his GF is working after she finsihed her studies. She pays all the bills to support her family and also put her sis (my GF) tru hi school(after she finshed as the best of her year) and University..You have to be with a gurl a certain time also to see what she thinks, about foreigners etc, put her in different life situations and see her reactions.. I have that from my buddy, when i have a new GF he gave me some pretty good advise when he meet my new flame about her character etc...Another thing, because my buddy lives with his GF a certain time and knows the family, there wasnt any money thing coming up to him.
Of course he support his GF with a certain amount and she also earns money, but there aint any "surprises" comin up, like carabao died etc etc...She has her budget and she is ok with that...
In other words, know the gurl first, meet her family and then decide where you want to go.
just wanted to add NEVER TXT a gurl first, especially if your in AC, if she doesnt txt you first or txt back, she aint interested. One story on the side, the last gurl I txt and met in AC (agassya) replied to me after I txt her, but it wasnt her, someone else replied to my txt, very funny. I found out later, just let the gurls txt you, make them wait, Pinoy guys do the same , if a gurl aint interested in you, its waste of time/money.
Another thing, talk about emotions, what you feel, etc, pinays are responding to that..you will see it :D
Ok thats enough for today..
Happy hunting
Blink
[QUOTE=X Man]C blossom C00710990 Looks like a nice couple, and I wish them the very best. Read the lady's comments. She even give the guys acct. number - which curiously didn't come up when I searched it.
Commandment 6 Do not allow any virtual **** to meet you at the airport.
footnote: Guy common sense rule #1, empower women (in their minds), but always stay in control and show confidence.
"Oh, going to the Philippines is scary, please meet me at the airport and take care of me..."
I'm not trying to take the [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] out of anyone. I once followed a beautiful woman to a strange land (not PI) and depended on her for many things. She was such the nurturing type, ...also the take control type as I later realized. It was so sweet that she met me at the airport.
Eventually, I got a job, made money, made some friends, got a life, and eventually found that both balls were still intact. Progeny induced me to put up with Ms control freak for several years.
Passion was what we had when she visited me in the US. In la la land, it was almost nonexistent. After only once a month, dead fish fks, she says...over morning coffee, "Let's have sex tonight, I want another baby."
I probably should have moved the coffee aside and giving her a good fk. Fortunately, I just told her "No, too late for that".
She divorced me a after a few too many of my trips to Thailand and that incident with the college girl.
I still feel guilty. Very guilty. Toward the end, we moved out of the apartment. The sweet college girl, her nickname was "muffy", visited. The apartment was completely empty, cold, no lights, no curtains. I still had a key though. I fked her all night on the carpet. Poor girl probably still has the rug burn scar on her back. Damn I feel guilty about that.
X[/QUOTE]
yes,
agree with that also...I not sure if I reported before..I met a gurl from chatsite in 2005, never met her in person and agreed to met her at the airport.
She was there with her little family, her chubby sis , her mom and maybe her mom boyfriend a cab driver who picked me up for 50 Euro!!!! from the airport to my hotel, then to a restaurant and then drives mom and her daugher home..
AFter allmost 24 hours on my legs I really dont need karaoke(which we did after I took a shower in my hotel) and when walking my gurl to Ermita hotel I saw many lookers on my way to my room, more hot then my "partner" and that gave me the idea of getin rid of her soon, which I did :D...
I just lost 3 days, so dont let somebody pick you never met before..just sharing my experiance. Met her the next day in a mall and see where things will go, if you both "click" go on and have fun...
Happy hunting
Blink
Hey Blink, thanks for all the stories and info.
Umm, man*****? Speak for yourself.
I agree with your point about money, but if one gets serious with a girl, it's not unreasonable to pay basic expenses. (yes, you should meet her face to face before getting serious) Helping put a kid thru college isn't such a bad thing to do -- if you're sure that's what she's doing.
Of course some dunderheads buy a girl an expensive phone, pay phone bills, just so he can call her everyday. I had to listen to one dunderhead chat with his girl while she was next to me in bed. The phone rang, she glanced at the phone, seemed startled as she pulled my ck out of her mouth, told me to be quiet and then answered the phone, "hello darling.".
Not sure what you mean about never texting first. If you only wait for them to text you, then you are ending up with the desperate ones. Again, Blink, don't apply AC standards to all Filipinas. Yes, the AC bar girls will text you and will send some really naughty stuff. This is the "chat rooms" thread and 98% of chat ladies are not p4p. BTW, where did you meet ladies online?
x
[QUOTE=Blink157]hi,
yes its for newbies...not for man*****s like us :D....
agree with ur first comendment...dont do that, thats kind of desperate and stupid, who want to marry a gurl which you have never met in person or lived together for a certain time. The chatgurls dont belive that anyway..
2nd comend..dont send any money at all...If you never visit the gurl before or meet her in person dont DONT send any money..all the gurls I have send money was a waste of time, 80% of them I have screwd but sending them money to make me as their BF , yes ME think I was their serious BF was completely wrong and overpriced for the intercourse thing, means if you there, enough woman you can score, you just need a bit time, which I have now :D
If your together with her allready, its your decession if you send money...I can only tell, my gf NEVER asked any money from me...more on that laters
3rd commend..yes, totally agree, Im sure gurls doing the same thing, on the other site you realy have to be there and be quick also, justa story of mine, when i was dating the gurl on chatsite and we talked and then meet up in my hotel :D, some weeks later she gave up work and now live with a FilAm somewhere in Manila who is on site and tc of here..and her relatives LOL...guess I will hear from her again, soon or later, but not sure if Im still interested :D...This shows if a gurl really look for somebody who can take care of her and somebody comes upo with a gud offer, she is gone..SO, have many gurls lined up.
4th commendm: yeah be romantic and dont tell about ISG, agree with that
5th, yes agree with that. My gf is virgin (still) and I respect that. YOu can be with a gurl for a certain of time and dont have to do the sex thing, if you really love her..and there are plenty of other things you can do ;-)
Talkin about my gf and maybe advise to newbies how to get serious GF.
My GF is the sister of my buddy who lives allready 20 years in the Philippines. He has been together with her since 4 years. He is working and his GF is working after she finsihed her studies. She pays all the bills to support her family and also put her sis (my GF) tru hi school(after she finshed as the best of her year) and University..You have to be with a gurl a certain time also to see what she thinks, about foreigners etc, put her in different life situations and see her reactions.. I have that from my buddy, when i have a new GF he gave me some pretty good advise when he meet my new flame about her character etc...Another thing, because my buddy lives with his GF a certain time and knows the family, there wasnt any money thing coming up to him.
Of course he support his GF with a certain amount and she also earns money, but there aint any "surprises" comin up, like carabao died etc etc...She has her budget and she is ok with that...
In other words, know the gurl first, meet her family and then decide where you want to go.
just wanted to add NEVER TXT a gurl first, especially if your in AC, if she doesnt txt you first or txt back, she aint interested. One story on the side, the last gurl I txt and met in AC (agassya) replied to me after I txt her, but it wasnt her, someone else replied to my txt, very funny. I found out later, just let the gurls txt you, make them wait, Pinoy guys do the same , if a gurl aint interested in you, its waste of time/money.
Another thing, talk about emotions, what you feel, etc, pinays are responding to that..you will see it :D
Ok thats enough for today..
Happy hunting
Blink[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=X Man]Hey Blink, thanks for all the stories and info.
Umm, man*****? Speak for yourself.
I agree with your point about money, but if one gets serious with a girl, it's not unreasonable to pay basic expenses. (yes, you should meet her face to face before getting serious) Helping put a kid thru college isn't such a bad thing to do -- if you're sure that's what she's doing.
Of course some dunderheads buy a girl an expensive phone, pay phone bills, just so he can call her everyday. I had to listen to one dunderhead chat with his girl while she was next to me in bed. The phone rang, she glanced at the phone, seemed startled as she pulled my ck out of her mouth, told me to be quiet and then answered the phone, "hello darling.".
Not sure what you mean about never texting first. If you only wait for them to text you, then you are ending up with the desperate ones. Again, Blink, don't apply AC standards to all Filipinas. Yes, the AC bar girls will text you and will send some really naughty stuff. This is the "chat rooms" thread and 98% of chat ladies are not p4p. BTW, where did you meet ladies online?
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Hi,
most of them I met online at acm or abc, which have the biggest selection. I also signed up in filipinaheart and cherry blossom, but I havent extent my membership, cause so many gurls here and talkin to them is easy. I think if you home in your country its a good thing to prepare for ur next holiday, cause Im not sure about you, but IM a bit tired of the AC gurl scene. Many of them aint my liking, Im a kind of chosy guy and why should I screw bargurls who are downhill compare to the looks of my gf. Of course after 12 san migules Im more open minded and not so chosy any more.
I think the most maganda gurls are in AGassya. Last time I saw Richard there, owner of blue nile, he also know where to go :D..surely he can give a big tip ehehehe....problem in agassya is, the pretty ones make enough money with drinks, barhops and no sex. Now, that there is some trouble in AC regarding barfines Im interested how they do. As of now Im back in my country, getting some things to the Philippines for the rainy days (Playstation 3, soundsystem, LCDTV, etc :D) and have to see some clients. IM pretty bored and cant wait to be back next month. Then I will start to built up some f..ckfriendsrelation in Manila. Thats the best part in Philippines, they all speak english and you can easy flirt to them. YOu also have to know , that most of the filipinas are traveling many hours to their work, which gives a gentleman like me the oportunity to offer bed and breakfast :D, so no need to waste time with traveling....Life is hard...hehehehe
My line, dont txt, just wait until u get txted allways works, if a gurl is interested in you, she will txt you back, that specially works for the so called NON AC gurls, from provinces....even my GF :D..YOu have to be a little macho in the Phils, the gurl have to respect you. Allways remember, you can have another GF evry day, no problem, so you in charge.
Maybe that sounds harsh, but thats the way it is in the Phils. If your a under-the-skirt-guy and allways give in, your lost, believe me I got some experiences in that when I lived 10 years ago in the Philippines.
Happy hunting
Blink
I am pretty willing to give folks the benifit of the doubt on things, but when I see multiple ads with the same language attributed to a pair of hot young ladies who are suppose to be far apart, I have to wonder. Check out these to ads and notice that not only are their words the same, they are similarly distinctive in size. It could be that there is a well-know platitude or self-help book that they have both read, or that great minds think alike, but if I had to place a bet...
Hi Blink, I appreciate your info and input. Nevertheless, I still think the picture you are painting is basically and AC p4p scene. Some people here at "chat rooms" might never have been in the Philippines and / or they may actually be looking for something permanent. So, let me clarify some things..
I don't know acm, but abc is a sex cam site. I also wouldn't count too much on a girl i met on a sex cam site. CB and FH women are usually very different - it seems you don't have a paid membership, so you haven't chatted with any of them. That being said, you will soemtimes find sxcam girls at CB and FH. They are trolling for customers.
Also, the "don't text them first" idea is also misleading. It sounds like you are in AC long term. Well, yea, if a girl doesn't text you, she's probably busy in some guys hotel room. You can then walk into a bar and have a woman attached to your crank in a matter of minutes. And there is always tomorrow or next week or next month. An envious situation.
Some of us come to the Philippines and might have only a week. We might be in Cebu or Davao or Cagayan de oro. We might also want to try our luck with regular women. If you wait for them to text you, you might spend the evening alone. Just a few days ago I read in the Davao thread about a guy who had a sexless weekend.
I will add one more thing - which seems to contradict Blink. As unnecessary as it seems, it's probably a good rule of thumb to always reconfirm a date (call or text). I've had a couple of no shows because I didn't do this. They say, "Well I didn't hear from you so I thought you changed your mind." Duh.
[QUOTE=Blink157]Hi,
most of them I met online at acm or abc, which have the biggest selection. I also signed up in filipinaheart and cherry blossom, [/QUOTE]
It may well be the granddaddy of webcam sites. Yes it is very different than CB, FH, DIA etc. , but I agree with blink that MANY of the models are amenable to in person meetings if you treat them half decent. I have done very well using that method which I only recently discovered (a girl I met on DIA told me about ACM.) You should try it xman.
[QUOTE=Hornygeorge]It may well be the granddaddy of webcam sites. Yes it is very different than CB, FH, DIA etc. , but I agree with blink that MANY of the models are amenable to in person meetings if you treat them half decent. I have done very well using that method which I only recently discovered (a girl I met on DIA told me about ACM.) You should try it xman.[/QUOTE]
Please would someone supply the web address of ACM, ABC, etc.
Thanks!
asianbabecams.com
asiancammmodels.com
sexyasiancams.com
Filipinamagic.com
If anybody knows others by all means post them.
[QUOTE=Sojourner]I am pretty willing to give folks the benifit of the doubt on things, but when I see multiple ads with the same language attributed to a pair of hot young ladies who are suppose to be far apart, I have to wonder. Check out these to ads and notice that not only are their words the same, they are similarly distinctive in size. It could be that there is a well-know platitude or self-help book that they have both read, or that great minds think alike, but if I had to place a bet...[/QUOTE]
Its so easy to assume things and get it wrong.
One of my newer GF's & I have been having a torrid affair with lots of txt's before & after visits all day & nite. Suddenly I don't hear from her all day.. the natural thought is she's busy with some other guy. One of my other girls also went 'off the air' that day so I checked with my office in Manila & they confirmed that the Smart network had been down all day. No conspiracy, just phone problems.
I use dating sites a lot because I like the freshness of non P4P girls so I have some experience in this area. I have known girls who put up ad's when they are living in one place and then months later put a new ad when they have moved to a new place. Students do this quite a bit.
The girls don't have to pay for the ad's so they are very sloppy about 'maintaining' their ad's. Also consider most of them lead very simple lives & have almost no computer skills. Often ad's are put there with the help of a bakla cousin or best friend who got help from a cousin who got help from a friend...
Yes, there are some amateur scammers (and even some professional ones) out there amongst the genuine girls to further complicate the picture.
Happy Mongering
Amavida
[QUOTE=Iron Duke]Please would someone supply the web address of ACM, ABC, etc.
Thanks![/QUOTE]
Its easy to google up the web sites _IF_ you know what the abbreiavtions stand for. Lately people are posting using these abbreviations & assuming everyone else know's what they refer to.
Here's a list of some of them, would other mongers please fill in the blanks or add new ones. There's a whole bunch of Chinese related dating web sites also which even more cryptic abbreviations. (I dont post them here because I get a headache trying to decipher it & can't be bothered with it)
ACM - Asian Cam Models
ABC -
CB - Cherry Blossoms
DIA - Date in Asia
FH - Filippna Heart
FK - Filippina Kisses
SAC -
Happy Mongering
Amavida
This is a valentine to all the wonderful women I've know in this quirky country...
with apologies to Willie Nelson for his song
To all the girls I've loved before
Who travelled in and out my door
I'm glad they came along
I dedicate this song
To all the girls I've loved before
To all the girls I once caressed
And may I say I've held the best
For helping me to grow
I owe a lot I know
To all the girls I've loved before
The winds of change are always blowing
And every time I try to stay
The winds of change continue blowing
And they just carry me away
To all the girls who shared my life
Who now are someone else's wives
I'm glad they came along
I dedicate this song
To all the girls I've loved before
To all the girls who cared for me
Who filled my nights with ecstasy
They live within my heart
I'll always be a part
Of all the girls I've loved before
The winds of change are always blowing
And every time I try to stay
The winds of change continue blowing
And they just carry me away
Happy Mongering!
Amavida
[QUOTE=Amavida]This is a valentine to all the wonderful women I've know in this quirky country...
with apologies to Willie Nelson for his song
To all the girls I've loved before
Who travelled in and out my door
I'm glad they came along
I dedicate this song
To all the girls I've loved before
To all the girls I once caressed
And may I say I've held the best
For helping me to grow
I owe a lot I know
To all the girls I've loved before
The winds of change are always blowing
And every time I try to stay
The winds of change continue blowing
And they just carry me away
To all the girls who shared my life
Who now are someone else's wives
I'm glad they came along
I dedicate this song
To all the girls I've loved before
To all the girls who cared for me
Who filled my nights with ecstasy
They live within my heart
I'll always be a part
Of all the girls I've loved before
The winds of change are always blowing
And every time I try to stay
The winds of change continue blowing
And they just carry me away
Happy Mongering!
Amavida[/QUOTE]
Thanks..It was great.
[QUOTE=Hornygeorge]asianbabecams.com
asiancammmodels.com
sexyasiancams.com
Filipinamagic.com
If anybody knows others by all means post them.[/QUOTE]Man why did I come to these sites before. It is a gem. By the way. ACM and filipinamagic have the same Feed. Just found out
Good luck.
Here is one more to the list:
cams2chat.com
Erik 67
there was a question on the mnl thread about why so many women report that they are "simple....." and what does it mean. i moved it here because 1) i see this so often on the pay for filipina contact sites. 2) the comment by amavida is just so stupid i can't ignore it.
***the comment is stupid....no flames please.
simple women...
i asked a very similar question about two years ago here at isg and the consensus was pretty much along the lines of gumby and freebief. they really do have a simple life. it's kind of old, but an isg classic was spamhog's trip to the remote areas of mindanao.
i've been up in the mountains of cebu island where dinner was started by ...campfire!. been in bamboo houses where shower room was the back yard - nieghbers front yard. night walks were always with warnigs
about, "watch for snakes".
they call it simple, i call it the adventure of a life time. i do regret the time 20 years ago where i gave that gal a good fuck in her bamboo house. i'm sure the entire extended family felt the vibrations.
anyway, back to the topic..."we are simple"
asians do tend to be humble/modest as well. but do your own research...and don't ask people like amavida!
most asian are more group oriented than westerners, so there is the copycat effect. also, there is the image that "west is best", but also, "i'm not deserving of what i see in those hollywood movies".
most americans underestimate the power of us/western music / movies / internet, etc at influencing attitudes overseas. i think they call it "soft power", but like any brand, scandals will erode the brand name effect pretty quickly. search for okinawa + america + [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] and you'll see what i mean.
x
[QUOTE=Amavida]Its easy to google up the web sites _IF_ you know what the abbreiavtions stand for. Lately people are posting using these abbreviations & assuming everyone else know's what they refer to.
Here's a list of some of them, would other mongers please fill in the blanks or add new ones. --cut--
ACM - Asian Cam Models
ABC -
CB - Cherry Blossoms
DIA - Date in Asia
FH - Filippna Heart
FK - Filippina Kisses
SAC -
--cut--[/QUOTE]
Missing ones are asian babe cams (ABC) and sexy asian cams (SAC). Cheers
I think I'm beginning to see a pattern with some of these chat girls. Prior to my trip last month, I bonded with an FH girl, who was really into sexually explicit chats, online porn sharing, etc. She told me in graphic detail what we were going to do when I was there, and how often. So imagine my surprise when she showed up at my hotel with mom and dad in tow! So much for the bedroom gymnastics.
So I get back home, and I promptly start another "relationship" with a really hot girl on FH. Again, she's into sexually explicit chats, phone sex, etc. , and assures me that we will be doing it like rabbits when I return on my next trip. I then share with her my disappointing experience from the last trip, in an effort to make sure that it won't be repeated. She then starts backpedaling, and telling me that she will probably not be able to spend much time with me alone unless we get married as soon as I get there! SAY WHAT?
I'd be interested in hearing from X-Man, et al. How they would handle a similar situation.
Also, both ABC and ACM don't work if you're in the Philippines at the time. It's either because the site owners don't want their bandwidth taken up by tons of Pinoys wanting free chats, or it's because it's blocked for some "moral" reason. Another site is honeydolls.com
Sexually explicit chat isn't really my thing. One girl said she'd lick my balls, but then couldn't meet when I was in country and is now in UK. I assume her bf was in town the same time I was....so it was his balls that got licked.
Innuendo is more fun for me and less risky.
As for the first lady you met Longhorn - did you follow up on that? I wouldn't like the idea if she showed up with parents without letting me know, but in some cases getting parental approval is a formality. If you get that...and she isn't a virgin, you should be able to have your way with her. I've had pretty good luck with women after getting the thumbs up from family members or other chaperones.
X
[QUOTE=Longhorn2000]I think I'm beginning to see a pattern with some of these chat girls. Prior to my trip last month, I bonded with an FH girl, who was really into sexually explicit chats, online porn sharing, etc. She told me in graphic detail what we were going to do when I was there, and how often. So imagine my surprise when she showed up at my hotel with mom and dad in tow! So much for the bedroom gymnastics.
So I get back home, and I promptly start another "relationship" with a really hot girl on FH. Again, she's into sexually explicit chats, phone sex, etc. , and assures me that we will be doing it like rabbits when I return on my next trip. I then share with her my disappointing experience from the last trip, in an effort to make sure that it won't be repeated. She then starts backpedaling, and telling me that she will probably not be able to spend much time with me alone unless we get married as soon as I get there! SAY WHAT?
I'd be interested in hearing from X-Man, et al. How they would handle a similar situation.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=X Man]Sexually explicit chat isn't really my thing.
Innuendo is more fun for me and less risky.
If you get that...and she isn't a virgin, you should be able to have your way with her. I've had pretty good luck with women after getting the thumbs up from family members or other chaperones.[/QUOTE]
The women have more respect for you if you don't come right out and chat about sex, at least not in the beginning. Beating around the bush can be just as rewarding because they will pick up on your innuendos and know what your chatting about anyway.
So true from my experiences as well. If they can trust you, you are golden!
A STRONG correlation exists between those that readily talk in sexually explicit fashion and bad experiences. Nice Filipinas just don't do that! ANYTHING that comes to easy should set off warning bells in your head (gotta keep the ego in check and take the "your so gwapo" comments with MORE than a grain of salt).
The best way to bond is not to raise sex as an issue until you are CERTAIN they like you. Patience is a virtue (that many of us lack).
This thing about ACM being blocked is not consistent with my experience because there are a fair number of Pinoy guys who go online and chat with the girls (maybe they use proxy servers but I kind of doubt it). Anybody else have knowledge about that?
I agree with HG. As for the blocking, I've found that even this site was blocked in some Net cafes. I guess it depends on who is running the biz and who is setting up the security features.
X
[QUOTE=Hornygeorge]A STRONG correlation exists between those that readily talk in sexually explicit fashion and bad experiences. Nice Filipinas just don't do that! ANYTHING that comes to easy should set off warning bells in your head (gotta keep the ego in check and take the "your so gwapo" comments with MORE than a grain of salt).
The best way to bond is not to raise sex as an issue until you are CERTAIN they like you. Patience is a virtue (that many of us lack).
This thing about ACM being blocked is not consistent with my experience because there are a fair number of Pinoy guys who go online and chat with the girls (maybe they use proxy servers but I kind of doubt it). Anybody else have knowledge about that?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Longhorn2000]I think I'm beginning to see a pattern with some of these chat girls. Prior to my trip last month, I bonded with an FH girl, who was really into sexually explicit chats, online porn sharing, etc. She told me in graphic detail what we were going to do when I was there, and how often. So imagine my surprise when she showed up at my hotel with mom and dad in tow! So much for the bedroom gymnastics.
So I get back home, and I promptly start another "relationship" with a really hot girl on FH. Again, she's into sexually explicit chats, phone sex, etc. , and assures me that we will be doing it like rabbits when I return on my next trip. I then share with her my disappointing experience from the last trip, in an effort to make sure that it won't be repeated. She then starts backpedaling, and telling me that she will probably not be able to spend much time with me alone unless we get married as soon as I get there! SAY WHAT?
I'd be interested in hearing from X-Man, et al. How they would handle a similar situation.[/QUOTE]If they bring up sex, 99 percent chance they are only after money. Even after having great sex with the girls, they don't like to talk "dirty"
The PI is blocked for ACM due to fraud and also some other places some IP's in Germany so I found out. There are enough free proxy server downloads out there to see you through most trips. I have Hide My IP Address on a Thumb drive it is based on its own browser so you can use it anywhere (even cafes no information left behind) but sometimes it may pick a server IP that is blocked by ACM. If you carry your own computer with you Anonymizer works very well and lets you set where you want your IP to come from(It is a pay one but has a free trial period). I had trouble with ISG PM's once but I think that was when I was behind proxy and once shut down it came good.
The Fox
[QUOTE=Hornygeorge]
This thing about ACM being blocked is not consistent with my experience because there are a fair number of Pinoy guys who go online and chat with the girls (maybe they use proxy servers but I kind of doubt it). Anybody else have knowledge about that?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Hornygeorge]A STRONG correlation exists between those that readily talk in sexually explicit fashion and bad experiences. Nice Filipinas just don't do that! ANYTHING that comes to easy should set off warning bells in your head (gotta keep the ego in check and take the "your so gwapo" comments with MORE than a grain of salt).
The best way to bond is not to raise sex as an issue until you are CERTAIN they like you. Patience is a virtue (that many of us lack).
This thing about ACM being blocked is not consistent with my experience because there are a fair number of Pinoy guys who go online and chat with the girls (maybe they use proxy servers but I kind of doubt it). Anybody else have knowledge about that?[/QUOTE]
Hi,
those sites are been blocked in Thailand and Phils. , unlike livejasmin, (thats why gurls dont like to work there) The pinoy guys you saw typing in freechat are mostly from abroad (OFW) and get bored like we do, hehehehe....
YOu can also access those sites if you pc literate (Proxy etc), but if your in the Philippines you go for the real thing...
Happy hunting!!
Blink
[quote=hornygeorge]a strong correlation exists between those that readily talk in sexually explicit fashion and bad experiences. nice filipinas just don't do that! anything that comes to easy should set off warning bells in your head ...[/quote]
absolutely agree with you hg!
we have to play the game of being 'nice guys' so they can maintain the facade of being 'good girls' to their friends & family. this is crucial.
if you cultivate an online romance & behave nicely the sex will come & it will be great, just need a little patience & a little savy. if you rush it you can kiss the sex good bye. i know some guys who use a direct approach but these guys tend to go for short time sex with very average looking women who will prostitute themselves for an hour in desperation for a few bucks to feed their inevitable baby.
[quote=hornygeorge]
the best way to bond is not to raise sex as an issue until you are certain they like you. patience is a virtue (that many of us lack).
[/quote]
yes once again absolutely agree with you 100% hg.
even after all these months of my 18yr old (former) cherry girl practically [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord125][CodeWord125][/url] me in my hotel every chance she gets, any direct mention of sex in txt or chat sends her mute with embarrassment.
[as an aside, prior to my last visit a couple of weeks ago she very coyly informed me in chat one day that she thought i wanted her to 'kiss ur bananna' and asked me if could i bring some naughty films so she 'could learn how' :) i took over a really classy bbj video clip on my computer & let her have a shy look. needles to say she is good student & has graduated with an 'a' in bbj]
compare this to a chick i have in singapore who gave me the most incredible virtual sex via txt (all all things) who turned out to be complete dud in bed! boy you learn this lesson fast!
if a chick offers to show her body or talk dirty its a sign of desperation or she's been p4p for quite a while.
if i want p4p i will go to a bar, when i get chicks from dating sites im looking for low mileage girls capable of a true gfe.
happy mongering
amavida
Here's an interesting one for you. I must be a little obsessive compulsive because I keep record of every girl & contact or vice versa. The easiest way to do this on a Mac is to 'Print' the profile of the chick as a .pdf file. The built in Spotlight search will almost instantly find the file for you based on whatever scrap of information you have.
Anywaaay, I contacted this chick on DIA four months ago during one of my mad profile spamming moments, never heard back from her. Last week she messages me in my email & pops up in yahoo. Thank god I have some info on her because she turned out to be quite nice & a cut above the usual desperate dirt poor province girl.
Claimed to be an executive banker (Metrobank) so flew down to Tacloban to satisfy my curiosity. (I know, I know, its a bloody long way from Manila to Leyte just for a root but hey I've done worse) Lo & behold its all true & I now have a very nice middle class pinay GF who humps nicely & does'nt leech money from me. She promises to visit me in Manila when she can. Claims to stay in Tiara Oriental in San Antonio when she's in town.
Amazing what good record keeping can sometimes do..
Happy Mongering
Amavida
Great story. Hope you can do a Leyte field report sometime soon (in the "other areas" section). Did you ever get out of Tacloban? Where did you stay in Tacloban I'm thinking of taking the SuperFerry/cat whatever to Ormoc.
[QUOTE=Amavida]Here's an interesting one for you. I must be a little obsessive compulsive because I keep record of every girl & contact or vice versa. The easiest way to do this on a Mac is to 'Print' the profile of the chick as a .pdf file. The built in Spotlight search will almost instantly find the file for you based on whatever scrap of information you have.
Anywaaay, I contacted this chick on DIA four months ago during one of my mad profile spamming moments, never heard back from her. Last week she messages me in my email & pops up in yahoo. Thank god I have some info on her because she turned out to be quite nice & a cut above the usual desperate dirt poor province girl.
Claimed to be an executive banker (Metrobank) so flew down to Tacloban to satisfy my curiosity. (I know, I know, its a bloody long way from Manila to Leyte just for a root but hey I've done worse) Lo & behold its all true & I now have a very nice middle class pinay GF who humps nicely & does'nt leech money from me. She promises to visit me in Manila when she can. Claims to stay in Tiara Oriental in San Antonio when she's in town.
Amazing what good record keeping can sometimes do..
Happy Mongering
Amavida[/QUOTE]
Only been to Maasin and Southern Leyte, where I can report a complete absence of girlie bars but an INCREDIBLE abundance of VERY friendly non pros VERY interested in any half decent foreigner that might be passing through. LOTS of come hither smiles from a bevy of beautiful babae.
On the other hand Leyte has more churches than any place I've seen in the PI, and that is quite an [dubious] accomplishment.
So I live up in Tokyo and planning a trip down to Manila and thought I would see if I could arrange to meet a girl while I was there. I set up a FH account and after one day I had 36 interest and 7 messages, and my picture was not even approved.
Anyways thanks for the info about these girls
[QUOTE=Manfest]Missing ones are asian babe cams (ABC) and sexy asian cams (SAC). Cheers[/QUOTE]
Still another, asiancybercams (ACC)
Bud
Somehow I doubt Amavida is going to do a Leyte review....just a hunch.
HG, I can find the churches and girls....as you noted, they are everywhere. Any info on hotels, beaches, nightlife, transportation?
X
[QUOTE=Hornygeorge]Only been to Maasin and Southern Leyte, where I can report a complete absence of girlie bars but an INCREDIBLE abundance of VERY friendly non pros VERY interested in any half decent foreigner that might be passing through. LOTS of come hither smiles from a bevy of beautiful babae.
On the other hand Leyte has more churches than any place I've seen in the PI, and that is quite an [dubious] accomplishment.[/QUOTE]
Now the problem is keeping track of them. Amavida gave some ideas in an earlier post. I think it was Mahku who said use the "note" section in Y messenger. I wish I had done that from the beginning.
I use print screen software to take a pic of the profile. I try to get their email and phone # as soon as possible and then print the pic, pencil in the info. Eventually the info in the computer and the hard copy printouts get sorted into city/area. So, when I fly into Cebu next week I'll have a nice stack of papers with pics and contact info. I sometimes travel with a laptop, but I still find the printouts easier to manage.
My biggest problem is connecting the profile at Cherry Bl and then the person who ends up in my Y messenger files -- especially if they use different names.
A long time ago there was a site called 2match you coming out of AC. I don't know if they still exist. When it started it was free and I chatted with lots of ladies. Foolishly, I didn't keep good records and never was able to meet some real stunners when I went to AC.
Anyway, try to stay organized! It will pay off eventually. Do any of you others have a "system"?
X
[QUOTE=Kiyomori]So I live up in Tokyo and planning a trip down to Manila and thought I would see if I could arrange to meet a girl while I was there. I set up a FH account and after one day I had 36 interest and 7 messages, and my picture was not even approved.
Anyways thanks for the info about these girls[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=X Man]Sexually explicit chat isn't really my thing. One girl said she'd lick my balls, but then couldn't meet when I was in country and is now in UK. I assume her bf was in town the same time I was....so it was his balls that got licked.[/QUOTE]LMAO. Maybe its because I'm tired, but that paragraph made me laugh out loud.
Hahahahaha. Do you do taxes too??
[QUOTE=X Man]A long time ago there was a site called 2match you coming out of AC. I don't know if they still exist. When it started it was free and I chatted with lots of ladies. Foolishly, I didn't keep good records and never was able to meet some real stunners when I went to AC.[/QUOTE]
Thats too bad because you missed out. 2MatchU was a internet cafe located at the foot of Fields Ave. They had a good business plan but their website never caught on. It was owned by some Swede. Only women were allowed in their net cafe and online time was free for one hour as long as they logged onto 2Mu. The website is still up last time I checked. Had the pleasure of meeting many nice women and not just from the entertainment industry. Still have a few lady friends there with privileges!
hi to all,
just some things i like to add to this topic, not sure if it had discussed like this before.
if you date gurls from those so called paid chatsites like acm, abc etc..you shoud beware of their age. some of them dont have the legal age to be online and perform "shows"....in other words, some of those "models" are ****.
whenever i suspect such thing i will send email to the "site" and inform them to check on this..however, the "model" comes up with a fake id and things are solved.
i personally know two of those models who are ****, but on their id they submit, it shows they have the legal age. so i dont have a proof and im kind of helpless in this situation..on the other hand, this is a way for them to avoid working in a bar at their age and they can earn some money..
the problem is, if you date them , meet them up and make them as your gf...then the trouble starts...
so, if you not sure when dealing with this, means you met up with those gurl, you ask for id, she will show you her id or make you belive she has the legal age. ask some pinoys, specialy ask your receptionist at your hotels front desk what they think..and if they have doubt, let it go...
maybe somebody wants to reply on that.. i don twant open discussion about ****. this is out of the topic of this forum. i just wanted to inform that some filipinas workin on those sites dont have the legal age to do so and you if you date them you should get secound opinion and further proof.
its for the gurls safety, but also for yours...just some thoughs i would like to share....
blink
[quote=blink157]hi to all,
just some things i like to add to this topic, not sure if it had discussed like this before.
if you date gurls from those so called paid chatsites like acm, abc etc.....
hello blink,
can you please help me by answering the following questions. i must admit i am "fob" (fresh off the boat) about chat cam sites.i have heard on the grape-vine that they are 'scams' and the girls just want to bleed you for money.
1) how do you date a girl on the chat sites?
2) what is the approximate cost involved? viz. how much would you have to spend to get to know the girl?
3) why would you want to meet these girls when you can go to the bars? you know a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.
4) do these girls operate more than one chat site at the same time?
5) can these girls earn good money? say $150/$250 or more per week.
6) i would hazard a guess and speculate that the attractive ladies would be very busy and in high demand. true or false?
big thanks, blink. all the very breast, mate.
[quote=wazza88][quote=blink157]hi to all,
just some things i like to add to this topic, not sure if it had discussed like this before.
if you date gurls from those so called paid chatsites like acm, abc etc.....
hello blink,
can you please help me by answering the following questions. i must admit i am "fob" (fresh off the boat) about chat cam sites.i have heard on the grape-vine that they are 'scams' and the girls just want to bleed you for money.
1) how do you date a girl on the chat sites?
2) what is the approximate cost involved? viz. how much would you have to spend to get to know the girl?
3) why would you want to meet these girls when you can go to the bars? you know a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.
4) do these girls operate more than one chat site at the same time?
5) can these girls earn good money? say $150/$250 or more per week.
6) i would hazard a guess and speculate that the attractive ladies would be very busy and in high demand. true or false?
big thanks, blink. all the very breast, mate.[/quote]
hi,
my favoured topic lol...
ok here ur answers..
1) if you see them online , ask them first if they ever met a foreigner member in person and if they like to do so, tell them your soon in town and looking for a real gf, your broken hearted etc etc etc....lets see what she will say..
ask her if she has ym, get her ym id..maybe youhve t spend some bucks in prvt, sometimes they give you also for free, if they desperate, which is the case now, cause i count more then 800 models on acm :d
get her cp number..when you in pi, chnage ur status on ym into sms, so you can have allways contact with them and txt them, sometimes they busy at first , but sometimes they bored and want to go out
2)i advise you do that just before you go to the philippines, so you wont spend much to them..maybe you invest 50bucks, get their ym id and cp and tell them u hit them when you in town..
3) big advantage of those sites is, you sit at hme, excited to go to the philippines soon and dreaming to meet those hot filipinas...its like shopping, you hit on the gurl you like and if you ask the mandatory questions (see reply1) you get their contacts..overall they look a bit better then those gurls you can find in ac bars,specialy the stunners and you dont have to go to all th ebars to find your gurl for the night. also, some of them are ok to go out, dine etc..while most of the ac gurls i will tell bye bye the next day..they sometimes a bit more educated then bargurls, but also know that some work in bars before, you can tell by talkin to them and see how they comunicate.
4) yes, they online up to 3 sites at one time, depends on their pc and connection, to make more money..
5)yes, the stunners can make good money, the dogs wont, same as in bars, if the gurl is ugly she wont make gud money there either..good ones can make 40 000 pesos a month plus what their bf send them and much more..
6) they have their sugardadddys and contacts, pinoy bf etc et, but you never know if u never try, i would go for the new ones in business, same as for the new gurls in a bar, they probably just tstart to tget the bola2 skills so you might be lucky if you hit them first..
there are also exceptions, i date one very busy chick last time,met her and scrwed her the first night, without paying much, just drinks and food when we went out, so no big deal,, i post her picture here...now she is a pgreant from poor pinoy guy, not much smart those gurls, just streetsmart..
finally...
it salwas good if you prepared for ur upcoming trip in the phils with some contacts..when you there you can allwas decide if you goin to meet them up or not, maybe you hit your jewel the first night, take her for some vacation to boracay and you will never meet anyone of your online contacts...you know if you there and if you try...
you also have to know, those gurls work on sites to make money without having sex with the guys..some will do, some not..some just want to go shopping and you pay and pay and get nothing,some lookin for a real bf, most of them for a sugardaddy..i recomand to date those gurls with a scientific approach..like xman :d...meet them in ur free time during day, for lunch breakfast or early dinner..if you have the feeling they just after ur money and u get nothing, justtell them bye bye..meet them in public place..
avoid talkin bout sex and f..in, be more romantic..ask before meeting them how many chaperons they bring to avoid spending...sometimes they just bring somebody to check on you, if your ok and get another opinion..
hope that helps a bit...post ur experience here, so we all more smarter after this lol
happy hunting
blink
X Man, congratulations on yet another interesting and informative post. I am looking on FH for a girlfriend and find that the best way to keep track of my contacts is to use the 'Favourites' section and to copy cellphone numbers and email addresses there, and also copy email addresses into my personal yahoo email folder. However of course on trips to Phils more and more I believe it is essential to have a cellphone (principally for P1 texting of girls) because so many do not 'front', or fail to 'front' on time. My last trip had far too many trips to the public phones on the third floor of Robinsons Place Ermita. I learnt a valuable lesson! Maybe my methods are 'ye olde worlde' but I won't go to the extent of bringing a laptop: I'm not ashamed to admit that an A$1.50 made in Indonesia small notebook is more efficient and quicker (unless one loses it of course).
I agree with you on two points Notanocker (why do I keep wondering what notanocker means?).
You do not need a laptop and you DO need a cell phone. The cell phone that I've been using for the last two years in the Philippines is now sold used for about 800 pesos. Most of the women I date / fk in Phil have far nicer phones. As for the others, well, they don't have a phone at all.
Point is....you can buy a used phone for 1k minimun and it will be a great investment.
What do you mean by "front"?
[QUOTE=Notanocker]X Man, congratulations on yet another interesting and informative post. I am looking on FH for a girlfriend and find that the best way to keep track of my contacts is to use the 'Favourites' section and to copy cellphone numbers and email addresses there, and also copy email addresses into my personal yahoo email folder. However of course on trips to Phils more and more I believe it is essential to have a cellphone (principally for P1 texting of girls) because so many do not 'front', or fail to 'front' on time. My last trip had far too many trips to the public phones on the third floor of Robinsons Place Ermita. I learnt a valuable lesson! Maybe my methods are 'ye olde worlde' but I won't go to the extent of bringing a laptop: I'm not ashamed to admit that an A$1.50 made in Indonesia small notebook is more efficient and quicker (unless one loses it of course).[/QUOTE]
In her message she says something like "are you brave".
Well are you?
Cherry bl
00962694
Also, I like the ability to make the image fullscreen, and the LACK of this utility is a major drawback to SAC. A way around this is to get their YM then open the cam on Ym instead of SAC while you still have SAC open in private mode so she gets paid.
NEW cellphones (Nokia) can be purchased for under 2000 Piso and both times I bought used ones they developed problems soon after leaving Manila (where I bought them-at Robinson's Ermita in the cellphone vendor section).
So I suggest either bring your phone from home (to get it unlocked will cost $10) or buying a new phone in PI (rather than risking it with a used one).
Blinks' post has some very sound advice.
[QUOTE=X Man]In her message she says something like "are you brave".
Well are you?
Cherry bl
00962694[/QUOTE]
Am a coward XMan am in this case am proud to admit it :D
[QUOTE=Hornygeorge]Also, I like the ability to make the image fullscreen, and the LACK of this utility is a major drawback to SAC. ... [/QUOTE]
Hi HG, I have guessed what most of the abbreviations mean but what is SAC?
Amavida
Hi Wazza,
I saw these questions from you about cam girls & thought Id throw in my experiences.
Cam girls are an interesting side show to the main event or useful if you're far from the phils & need some ... ah... philippina style relaxation... hehehe :)
I don't regard them as a way to find women for real sex.
I have bedded cam girls but not through sitting online & paying them money then begging them for a date. The girls I have had sex with just happened to be cam girls, as well as, or in addition to, other entertainment industry jobs.
Some are students who have not been bar girls, most are bar girls or ex bar girls. You may be surprised that many of the innocent little flowers on dating web sites are in the cam girl business or bar girls. ;)
Its ironical to be in bed pounding some tiny cutey for free & knowing that dopes are paying her good money to fantasise about it on a web cam.
Dating web sites are useful for picking up some new contacts if you're out of the country or need some new GF's in a hurry. I just register for 1 month only, pick up some new ones & then close the membership down. I would'nt fall in to the trap of spending endless hours pouring over dating sites. You can pick up honey's in the flesh in the phils so easy its laughable. Date In Asia web site is free & you will get so many enquiries you won't even have to look at the profiles to find one. (often abbreviated here as DIA)
Happy Mongering
Amavida
All the useful info that Amavida includes here is accurate, and has been posted previously. Thanks for the review.
What I wonder is if this hateful comment is really necessary:
"Its ironical to be in bed pounding some tiny cutey for free & knowing that dopes are paying her good money to fantasise about it on a web cam"
So, any "dopes" out there? I've never paid for cam, but I've also never thought of those who do as "dopes". I do rent porn, does that make me a dope.
As for hatefulness, please see the AV and X comments in the AC thread where AV and I have some gentelmanly disagreements.
Anyway, AV provides no specific details, and writes in plural as if he beds cam girls every weekend.
Has anyone met AV? Does he really live in the Philippines? I'm sorry if I sound antagonistic, but red flags start unfurling almost every time I read an AV post.
And, I'll be in Cebu Monday if anyone wants to meet up.
X Man
[QUOTE=Amavida]Hi Wazza,
I saw these questions from you about cam girls & thought Id throw in my experiences.
Cam girls are an interesting side show to the main event or useful if you're far from the phils & need some ... ah... philippina style relaxation... hehehe :)
I don't regard them as a way to find women for real sex.
I have bedded cam girls but not through sitting online & paying them money then begging them for a date. The girls I have had sex with just happened to be cam girls, as well as, or in addition to, other entertainment industry jobs.
Some are students who have not been bar girls, most are bar girls or ex bar girls. You may be surprised that many of the innocent little flowers on dating web sites are in the cam girl business or bar girls. ;)
Its ironical to be in bed pounding some tiny cutey for free & knowing that dopes are paying her good money to fantasise about it on a web cam.
Dating web sites are useful for picking up some new contacts if you're out of the country or need some new GF's in a hurry. I just register for 1 month only, pick up some new ones & then close the membership down. I would'nt fall in to the trap of spending endless hours pouring over dating sites. You can pick up honey's in the flesh in the phils so easy its laughable. Date In Asia web site is free & you will get so many enquiries you won't even have to look at the profiles to find one. (often abbreviated here as DIA)
Happy Mongering
Amavida[/QUOTE]
Yea, I guess there are different kinds of bravery. I have to give her points for creativity
And that's the crux, good looking woman who are sometimes dull vs. Fugly women who have a lot of chat.
[QUOTE=Wicked Roger]Am a coward XMan am in this case am proud to admit it :D[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=X Man]... I'm sorry if I sound antagonistic...
X Man[/QUOTE]
Yes you do.
In other threads you passed off your ridicule as humour.
Now you step it up, questioning my credibility.
I noticed in the last day or two I suddenly started receiving pm's from newly registered users requesting personal information about me & details of women I have mentioned in posts. Hmmm, coincidence?
I think of these forums as like a bar, a bunch of guys sitting around passing info & expressing opinions.
Your antagonism is like walking into a bar & picking a fight over nothing.
In the grand scheme of things it really doesn't matter.
I'll ignore further trolling from you in future, life is too short.
Happy Mongering
Amavida
Essential dating site mongering tools :
Cell phone + Phils sim card
Yahoo account
Viagra
:) Joke, joke.
Just thought I would mention that one of my GF's has just told me that you can now get a sim card from Smart that is enabled for roaming for 70php. 1php for local txt's & 20php for txt's when out of the country. I guess Globe does the same thing but Im too lazy to go check.
This could be helpful for mongers who wish to stay in touch with GF's when back in their home country.
Happy Mongering
Amavida
[QUOTE=Amavida]Essential dating site mongering tools :
Cell phone + Phils sim card
Yahoo account
Viagra
:) Joke, joke.
Just thought I would mention that one of my GF's has just told me that you can now get a sim card from Smart that is enabled for roaming for 70php. 1php for local txt's & 20php for txt's when out of the country. I guess Globe does the same thing but Im too lazy to go check.
This could be helpful for mongers who wish to stay in touch with GF's when back in their home country.
Happy Mongering
Amavida[/QUOTE]
hi,
you need 100 p load for smart. You can easily do that when u leave the country at the airport. You can buy prepaid load at the mashines, bt you need pesos for that. TXT ROAM to 333 and wait, after a while your cp get ready for roaming.
Note: after you txt ROAM and your cp is on roaming you cant load any more, you need to send another txt to call ROAMING off.
It said it needs to be at least one hour time before leaving the country to apply for roaming. My experience after some minutes I send my txt evrything was ok.
Like AV says, its nice to play tricks on the gurls, they dont know if you in or out of the country.it will allways show your PI number :D
Happy txting
Blink
[QUOTE=Amavida]Essential dating site mongering tools :
Cell phone + Phils sim card
Yahoo account
Viagra
:) Joke, joke.
Just thought I would mention that one of my GF's has just told me that you can now get a sim card from Smart that is enabled for roaming for 70php. 1php for local txt's & 20php for txt's when out of the country. I guess Globe does the same thing but Im too lazy to go check.
This could be helpful for mongers who wish to stay in touch with GF's when back in their home country.
Happy Mongering,
Amavida[/QUOTE]I have a roaming SMART SIM for over a year Amavida,just make sure you keep getting it topped up by someone in-country,as you said,invaluable!
[QUOTE=Blink157]hi,
you need 100 p load for smart. You can easily do that when u leave the country at the airport. You can buy prepaid load at the mashines, bt you need pesos for that. TXT ROAM to 333 and wait, after a while your cp get ready for roaming.
Note: after you txt ROAM and your cp is on roaming you cant load any more, you need to send another txt to call ROAMING off.
It said it needs to be at least one hour time before leaving the country to apply for roaming. My experience after some minutes I send my txt evrything was ok.
Like AV says, its nice to play tricks on the gurls, they dont know if you in or out of the country.it will allways show your PI number :D
Happy txting
Blink[/QUOTE]
Slight correction to above: you can still reload while you are roaming, you just have to do it via text message and you must have at least 100p in your account. Take some 300p load cards with you, you can usually activate them anytime before the expiration date shown on the card. Once you activate a 300p card, its load is good for 60 days so take care to load again before the 60 days are up, then you can do reload yourself. You could use smaller cards, but they expire a lot faster, and at 20p per outgoing text while you roam, you will use them up quickly.
Don't query your balance too often, that is also treated as an outgoing message for which you are charged. Just keep track of how many texts you sent since your last load.
If you get below 100p, you need to get your account back over 100p within the day or you will lose your ability to send out texts. If that happens, you will need someone in the PI to buy load for you and send it to your phone.
To reload, send a text message "RELOAD <PIN>" to 1510. More detailed directions can be found at the Smart website.
[QUOTE=Finrod]Slight correction to above: you can still reload while you are roaming, you just have to do it via text message and you must have at least 100p in your account. Take some 300p load cards with you, you can usually activate them anytime before the expiration date shown on the card. Once you activate a 300p card, its load is good for 60 days so take care to load again before the 60 days are up, then you can do reload yourself. You could use smaller cards, but they expire a lot faster, and at 20p per outgoing text while you roam, you will use them up quickly.
Don't query your balance too often, that is also treated as an outgoing message for which you are charged. Just keep track of how many texts you sent since your last load.
If you get below 100p, you need to get your account back over 100p within the day or you will lose your ability to send out texts. If that happens, you will need someone in the PI to buy load for you and send it to your phone.
To reload, send a text message "RELOAD <PIN>" to 1510. More detailed directions can be found at the Smart website.[/QUOTE]
yes korek,
I had to txt to call raoming off and then I load again while calling 1510 plus the code on the prepaid card. If you alllready on roam in the Phils you cant do it that way, you need to txt.
BTW I once made mistake, shy to tell here :D, once I arrived in PI, freshly showerd , first thing was to buy simcard and load for my cp. I tried many times to send load to 1510 but it doesnt worked...guess why....I had to change my cp to SEND NUMBER, it was still on HIDE UR OWN NUMBER, you cant load if ur number cant be seen...you also cant make phone calls with your cp if you HIDE ur number, funny, maybe its about security reasons, so many scams in PI lol....anybody can answer on that???
Happy roaming
Blink
Good info Blink and Finrod, thanks!
Does the same procedure work for Globe as well?
[QUOTE=Mattrick]Good info Blink and Finrod, thanks!
Does the same procedure work for Globe as well?[/QUOTE]
yes,
same same but not same. Globe has the same service, but Im not familar with GLOBE, cause Im with smart...
I think for more info we should ask "one of Amavidas GF" LOL,,same as we should ask her about stockexchnage info, real estate..etc LOL..sorry.. but seldem ask a chick about anything then if she is avaible for tonight.
Of course there are exceptions to be made :D
Xmen you liked my joke? LOL...
Amavida, sorry I cant hold that back, but I know you take things easy...just want to resfresh ths thread a bit and please guys, chill out,we all grown ups
Xmen like to do precise and explicit postings/reports with good background info and has a good humor, sometimes abit harsh but thats ok for me and I gues Amavida is just allwas happpy cause he lives in the Philippines, di ba?? I think there is also an little age gap between them I rember when I was at AV age (15years fresh and young stud now im only a stud ) LOL ok, hope we can have all a good time here and get good reports and good info from all.
Happy reporting
Blink
Even AT&T only charges 25cents for international texts from my iphone! A BETTER option is ipipi.com which charges only 10cents to send text messages to cellphones in PI. Also, they cannot get your cell number to text you back at inopportune moments.
AT&T has a package of 100 international texts for $10 or 10cents each also.
SMART is DREADFUL: ; I hate them almost as I hate Philippine Airlines. REAL cell carriers are trying to break in to the PI market but the rule only allowing foreign companies to own 40% of assets in PI prevents it from happening. SMART & GLOBE are too powerful to let their co monopoly be ruined by real competition.
I just find it curious that you spend so much time in the Philippines, and post so often, but your information doesn't seem very original.
I hope you prove me wrong.
X
And for the record, I have only one account at ISG.
[QUOTE=Amavida]Yes you do.
In other threads you passed off your ridicule as humour.
Now you step it up, questioning my credibility.
I noticed in the last day or two I suddenly started receiving pm's from newly registered users requesting personal information about me & details of women I have mentioned in posts. Hmmm, coincidence?
I think of these forums as like a bar, a bunch of guys sitting around passing info & expressing opinions.
Your antagonism is like walking into a bar & picking a fight over nothing.
In the grand scheme of things it really doesn't matter.
I'll ignore further trolling from you in future, life is too short.
Happy Mongering
Amavida[/QUOTE]
Try chikka.com, this is free to send sms from internet to the girls. And the girls pay only 2.5 peso to answer to the internet account.
By far the best whatsoever to keep at instant touch with the lovely girls, even back at home :)
Gentlemen, I have seen a number of reports on cell phone use in the Philippines. However I am still unclear on it all.
I got off the phone tonight with Verizon Wireless. My new LG 8700 will not work in the Philippines because of technology differences. However, Verizon is happy to supply me with a global phone free of charge. The global phone still uses my USA number & line. All I have to pay for is the airtime or text messages.
However, cost is part of the dilemma. Calls are an astronomical $2.50 per minute, so I won't be talking to anyone. Text messages are 5¢ to receive and 50¢ to send. I can live with that.
However, in speaking with some local ladies I plan to meet, they tell me it is 25 pesos for them to text my phone internationally and they consider that expensive.
One girl suggested I buy a phone, but she said they cost 3000pesos ($75). I can't see any reason to spend $75 on a phone when mine is free. And $75 is alot of text messages.
I guess the ONE benefit of using the Global phone is I won't have to worry about any bar girls sending me constant text messages.... as I have heard some complain about that. But I also don't want some bar babe not texting me if I want her to because of the 25 peso cost.
To clarify, I am on a mixed mission on this upcoming trip. I am meeting about 8 girls to see if I can find one for a serious relationship. However I have also built some "fun time" into the equation. Probably 2 nites at LA Cafe and 2 nights in Angeles.
If I buy (or rent?) a phone locally for the week I am there, what are the realistic costs for the week?
Advice? Suggestions?
Thanks, Bob
You can go into any pawn shop or used phone store--and there seem to be thousands of them--and buy a basic phone for $10-15 and then for another few dollars buy a local sim card which will give you a local number. You can then "charge" it as you need call time. A cell phone here is a must since texting is the basic form of communication. The problem with using your US phone is that most girls will not be able to afford to text you, so it's sort of self-defeating. Too bad that the US and Japan don't join the rest of the world by adopting the same technology.
Hello Towelboy,
GE has the right idea but the quality of some of the used cell phones I have seen for sale in the PI is laughable. Since you have a few weeks before your trip, try buying one on Ebay. Do a search for a used, unlocked GSM cp (I have seen them for as little as $25). There are many reputable companies on Ebay that will ship it to you in a few days, with a warranty. Then you can give it to your honey ko upon your departure. You can bring your global phone along in case of an emergency back home.
Btw, do you think two nights in AC is enough?
[QUOTE=Blink157]hi,
you need 100 p load for smart. You can easily do that when u leave the country at the airport. You can buy prepaid load at the mashines, bt you need pesos for that. TXT ROAM to 333 and wait, after a while your cp get ready for roaming.
Note: after you txt ROAM and your cp is on roaming you cant load any more, you need to send another txt to call ROAMING off.
It said it needs to be at least one hour time before leaving the country to apply for roaming. My experience after some minutes I send my txt evrything was ok.
Like AV says, its nice to play tricks on the gurls, they dont know if you in or out of the country.it will allways show your PI number :D
Happy txting
Blink[/QUOTE]
Thx Blink!
If u wanna go high tech, another option is to get a skype account. When u apply for an account use ur phils cp # as the user name. Now when u send a txt through skype the girls see the phils cp # as the caller id & assumes ur in the phils. This works almost all countries (except china & us if i recall correctly).
Skype if somebody does'nt know is voice calls over the internet cheap & also txt'ing over the internet cheap. If you have a 3g cp u get even trickier by placing skype call's/tst's through ur cp to the internet & then to the destination country phone system. Are your eyes spinning yet? heheh :)
Happy Mongering
Amavida
How are you, Blink?
Many thanks for your most enlightening and comprehensive reply.I will take your advice on board and investigate the possibility of another alternative way to seek that ever elusive pussy. When I have the opportunity I will try these cam chat sites.
The impossible is often the untried.
XMan: In Australian slang, an 'ocker' is someone who is a bit 'basic' (perhaps 'lower class') and who speaks with a broad Australian accent; he or she speaks what has been humorously called 'strine' (Australian): have a look on the Internet for a 1960s classic book of comedy by 'Afferbeck Lauder' (that is 'Strine' for 'Alphabetical Order' - it's a take on how it sounds when it comes out of the mouth of an 'Ocker.') An 'Ocker' might say 'Crikey!' as the now deceased Crocodile Man, Steve Irwin did! So if I am 'notanocker', hopefully I am well spoken using British (not horrible American) English, better educated than average and less uncouth without necessarily being what an 'Ocker' would call a 'wanker' (a snob, as in 'wank' meaning 'verbal masturbation' - of course, that is for others like you to judge, XMan. 'Did not front' means 'did not turn up or arrive at the designated meeting point' (turn up at all, in this case): this seems obvious from the context in which I have used it. Apologies for rare this off topic post but the very informative and pleasant XMan did ask: I assume he is not Australian!
What do you mean by laughable? The 1100 peso Nokio phone I bought on Colon St., Cebu two years ago still works and is now sold for 800 pesos.
I wonder what women think when they see my phone. They never ask. And if they have a phone it's light years ahead of my PI phone. I do get annoyed at the limit of in messages.....but considering I'm the type who can't throw anything away, this adds a little bit of sense to my life. Not throwing things away can be environmentally friendly too....my current X phone in X land is way out of date...to the point that it's a conversation starter.
Fk materialism.
x
[QUOTE=Mattrick]Hello Towelboy,
GE has the right idea but the quality of some of the used cell phones I have seen for sale in the PI is laughable. Since you have a few weeks before your trip, try buying one on Ebay. Do a search for a used, unlocked GSM cp (I have seen them for as little as $25). There are many reputable companies on Ebay that will ship it to you in a few days, with a warranty. Then you can give it to your honey ko upon your departure. You can bring your global phone along in case of an emergency back home.
Btw, do you think two nights in AC is enough?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Amavida]Thx Blink!
If u wanna go high tech, another option is to get a skype account. When u apply for an account use ur phils cp # as the user name. Now when u send a txt through skype the girls see the phils cp # as the caller id & assumes ur in the phils. This works almost all countries (except china & us if i recall correctly).
Skype if somebody does'nt know is voice calls over the internet cheap & also txt'ing over the internet cheap. If you have a 3g cp u get even trickier by placing skype call's/tst's through ur cp to the internet & then to the destination country phone system. Are your eyes spinning yet? heheh :)
Happy Mongering
Amavida[/QUOTE]
hmmm,
I use voipcheap.com,it works very good, 0,05cent Euro to connect and then 0,08 cent per minute per call to a mobile cellphone in the Philippines.If i calll to US or within europen countries its free....yes...also for some asian countries, they have promos, check their website!! I also know skype and I will try that, Im out of the country now....how much the gurl pays if she reply my txt??? same like PI?? 1 piso?That would be cool, I like to play tricks on gurls and I sometimes dont like to know people wether Im in or out of the country...keep a low profile as a foreign resident, or else you will find yourself on channel 2 news :D
Thanks for the info....
happy skyping
Blink
Thanks for the English lesson.
What do you mean "horrible American"? Wanker!
X
[QUOTE=Notanocker]XMan: In Australian slang, an 'ocker' is someone who is a bit 'basic' (perhaps 'lower class') and who speaks with a broad Australian accent; he or she speaks what has been humorously called 'strine' (Australian): have a look on the Internet for a 1960s classic book of comedy by 'Afferbeck Lauder' (that is 'Strine' for 'Alphabetical Order' - it's a take on how it sounds when it comes out of the mouth of an 'Ocker.') An 'Ocker' might say 'Crikey!' as the now deceased Crocodile Man, Steve Irwin did! So if I am 'notanocker', hopefully I am well spoken using British (not horrible American) English, better educated than average and less uncouth without necessarily being what an 'Ocker' would call a 'wanker' (a snob, as in 'wank' meaning 'verbal masturbation' - of course, that is for others like you to judge, XMan. 'Did not front' means 'did not turn up or arrive at the designated meeting point' (turn up at all, in this case): this seems obvious from the context in which I have used it. Apologies for rare this off topic post but the very informative and pleasant XMan did ask: I assume he is not Australian![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Towelboy2010]Gentlemen, I have seen a number of reports on cell phone use in the Philippines. However I am still unclear on it all.....
Advice? Suggestions?Thanks, Bob[/QUOTE]I would not spend time on this, and would not spend my money on the phone companies, I dont think they need more...
Follow the experienced guys; buy a cp in Phils - u get a used one for 1500peso or less in the shopping malls when u arrive there, test it before you buy so you are satisfied. Then get a globe or smart card for 100 peso, and another 100 peso give you 100 sms's. I normally use a lot more in a single week.
And this phone you can use also in the rest of the world, all over :)
- oh, except USA and Japan according another guy here....
[QUOTE=Blink157],..you also cant make phone calls with your cp if you HIDE ur number, funny, maybe its about security reasons, so many scams in PI lol....anybody can answer on that???Happy roaming. Blink[/QUOTE]
Hi there, I checked this before and this is required by the Philippines law. The caller must identify his number, so you cannot hide your number. If you have to hide, the only options seems to be to call from an international phone or internet phone (Yahoo, Skype and more)
I agree with Good Enough that a simple cell phone is fine. I get refurbished/used one for about 15-20 at a phone shop in Colon. I don't need the bells and whistles, just something small enough to fit in my pocket.
Once I have a girlfriend lined up I don't really need the phone anymore.
Good summary GF. Let me add stuff. You need phone (+ charger)/ SIM card / load.
SIM card (thumbnail size IC chip) has the phone no. and the memory and you can buy a second one if you need to disappear for some reason. I think these will expire if you don't load them for six + months.
The load is your phone bill -- kind of debit card style. The cards are good for a year so I usually buy an extra one before my trip to X land. Then, next arrival I scratch off to reveal the code, I'm Globe so I call 223, you will hear recorded insturctions, input the code on the card. Back in business. Oh, if you're 40+ like me, make sure you have your reading glasses ready to input the code. Pain in the arse.
Go buy a used phone at a shop or kiosk with a cute lass - she will set everything up, let them teach you, how to use the phone AND MAKE SURE you get her number. Tell her, "you're the first one in my new phone".
If you have a steady girl, try to get same system as her: Globe or SMart.
I'm NOT smart. Duh. Get it?
X
[QUOTE=Girlfinder]I would not spend time on this, and would not spend my money on the phone companies, I dont think they need more...
Follow the experienced guys; buy a cp in Phils - u get a used one for 1500peso or less in the shopping malls when u arrive there, test it before you buy so you are satisfied. Then get a globe or smart card for 100 peso, and another 100 peso give you 100 sms's. I normally use a lot more in a single week.
And this phone you can use also in the rest of the world, all over :)
- oh, except USA and Japan according another guy here....[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Girlfinder]Hi there, I checked this before and this is required by the Philippines law. The caller must identify his number, so you cannot hide your number. If you have to hide, the only options seems to be to call from an international phone or internet phone (Yahoo, Skype and more)[/QUOTE]
GF I have an Aussie cell phone enabled for roaming. Even when I set the handset to "Hide my caller ID" the call/txt receivers in Phils still see the caller I.D. Can be handy though as many mongers may realise, sending a txt from your non PI CP can be handy way of pretending to be overseas when ur in fact still in PI. Can be expensive but invaluable when used with care!
As you say, Configuring your Yahoo account to sign in to a certain cell phone number is a way of spoofing your Caller I.D.
To anyone who does'nt know : Outgoing Instant messages sent through your Yahoo on a computer account 'appear' to be coming from that cell phone. You do have to be in the country of the SIM card to initially set it up on Yahoo but after that it will work anywhere. For Instance in Australia Telstra, Optus & Vodafone all support Yahoo Instant messaging by SMS.
Be careful though, if you have verbose a chat mate & 'sign out' to your SMS, you may get a big phone bill because you are charged for incoming IM/SMS messages (at least in Australia). Cost? I think its 2php for PI senders & 20php for Australian to receive or send (Its a monopoly telco). The girls love to be able to SMS u at low cost when you are out of the country, or supposed to be hehehe :)
Before leaving Phils you can do the same thing with a locall phils SIM card so that when you send a Yahoo IM from your computer you appear to be sending from your Phils cp even when overseas. Just remember _NOT_ to sign out of yahoo on SMS or you have IM's going to the real Phils CP.
Besides spoofing ID & low cost another overlooked benefit is all your messages reside in your Yahoo chat message archive on the computer, nothing incriminating is on your cp.
As mentioned before you can create a skype account using ur phils cp # as user name. This is a simple way to spoof caller id when calling/txt'ing through skype from anywhere in the world to Phils receivers.
I love to keep them guessing. Also very handy way to cover your tracks when you are in places you're not supposed to be... hehehe :)
Happy sneaking!
Amavida
[QUOTE=X Man]Thanks for the English lesson.
What do you mean "horrible American"? Wanker!
X[/QUOTE]
Very tense Mr X Man, very very tense!
I think you need to relax a little uh?
The actual quote was "am well spoken using British (not horrible American) English". You misquoted him & used it as another excuse to ridicule somebody. To an aussie or pom, american english sounds odd as Im sure their english sounds odd to an american. Everyone knows this, big deal!
You often seem to misunderstand colloquial english, are you a native english speaker? Or is this just an excuse to keep incrementing your post count?
Whatever the reason I think your name calling is a bit over the top eh?
We're all here to enjoy our hobby ok? Relax!
Happy Mongering
Amavida
I am meeting 8 NON-bar girls during my nine day stay in March.
Any suggestions for good gifts to bring from the USA?
Thanks, Bob
Are craig's list girls trustworthy?
Any monger has good or bad experience with these girls?
[QUOTE=Towelboy2010]I am meeting 8 NON-bar girls during my nine day stay in March.
Any suggestions for good gifts to bring from the USA?
Thanks, Bob[/QUOTE]Chocolates Mate,and victoria secrets bra-and-pantie sets,I fly in 11 hours time for a five week vacation and to buy a house, my bag is packed to the gunnells with such pasalubong.
[QUOTE=Towelboy2010]I am meeting 8 NON-bar girls during my nine day stay in March.
Any suggestions for good gifts to bring from the USA?
Thanks, Bob[/QUOTE]Hi Bob,
Maybe you can bring some small cheap bottles of perfume perhaps you can buy them from the markets. I always buy the girls perfume and it goes down well.
have a great trip.
Delbert, you are 'on the right tram; when you suggest 'chocolates' but may I qualify iyt by saying 'CADBURY chocolates' because most people in urban Philippines know about Cadbury. Most local Cadbury blocks and bars seem to come from either Australia (where I live) or Malaysia. I appreciate that Cadbury may be difficult to obtain in the US but from my experience, American brands like Hersheys are not favoured by Filipinas, just as many British, Australians and New Zealanders similarly don't like the taste of Hershey's chocolates: too artificial compared to Cadbury. Blocks of course are far better value per 100 grams than bars, and can be carried in one's checked luggage, wrapped further if you want to guarantee against melting.
[QUOTE=Sammon]Are craig's list girls trustworthy?
Any monger has good or bad experience with these girls?[/QUOTE]Hi Sammon,
Having read some other Boards, I have seen negative comments concerning Craigslist (Personnals). When a girl places an ad she may receive some replies, she could even be receiving money from some men. A few intelligent guys who are actually gullible enough to send these girls money. It would be apparent that these men are thinking with the little head and not the big one. Some Filipina scams are more successful than the Nigerian ones and this is a clear demonstration of the power of the pussy. A lot of foreign men listen to and believe the heart-breaking stories of the Filipinas, you know, the usual, house burnt down,mother very sick, caribou became bakla(gay) and needs operation, no money for rice and so on. The guy starts sending $100 which he considers is not a lot of money. Eventually,the money sent increases as the man is further sucked into the girl's web of deceit.
You must treat these dating sites with the utmost caution. There have been instances where the pictures on these sites are fake not a girl but actually a guy posing as a girl. There are some desperate people on these sites who are con artists.
Fore-warned is fore-armed.
All the best and stay safe.
Helllo,
Im doing myspace today, goin back next month to the Phils and need some new contacts..fresh....I had account allready there but havent logged in long time..Now Im browsing and can say many many stunners...if I go on like this I could easily contact 100 gurls :D..
anybody succeed in that? Any info to share??
Myspace is a site like friendster....non pay...
Happpy hunting
PS
dont send money, buy yourself a new cellphone, much better :D.many fish in the water
[QUOTE=Notanocker]Delbert, you are 'on the right tram; when you suggest 'chocolates' but may I qualify iyt by saying 'CADBURY chocolates' because most people in urban Philippines know about Cadbury. Most local Cadbury blocks and bars seem to come from either Australia (where I live) or Malaysia. I appreciate that Cadbury may be difficult to obtain in the US but from my experience, American brands like Hersheys are not favoured by Filipinas, just as many British, Australians and New Zealanders similarly don't like the taste of Hershey's chocolates: too artificial compared to Cadbury. Blocks of course are far better value per 100 grams than bars, and can be carried in one's checked luggage, wrapped further if you want to guarantee against melting.[/QUOTE]
I recently bought 2 kilos of cadbury's with me no problems with melting in the places I've been. I notice they sell it here and the gold wrapped ones taste different not as nice as Australian but... I bought a silver wrapped block in a special section in the supermarket and tried it today and I think it tastes the same as home but some lass ate all my supply when i wasnt looking so i cant compare anymore.
They do love it!
[QUOTE=Blink157]Helllo,
Im doing myspace today, goin back next month to the Phils and need some new contacts..fresh....I had account allready there but havent logged in long time..Now Im browsing and can say many many stunners...if I go on like this I could easily contact 100 gurls :D..
anybody succeed in that? Any info to share??
Myspace is a site like friendster....non pay...
Happpy hunting
PS
dont send money, buy yourself a new cellphone, much better :D.many fish in the water[/QUOTE]
Hi Blink, I can confirm that Myspace, Friendster, Ringo & Tagged are all places where pinay's hunt us. For example a girl asked me to put an account on Tagged 6 weeks ago & I got about 100+ people all wishing to be 'friends'. All pinays, 18-35 year old. Many very nice ones & easy to get phone numbers for meeting if you say you are going to be there in their town soon.
The nice ting about these social networking sites is you can look at the friends of a friend & find stunners quite by accident.
I've even found that if you sit on the chat window of your Skype account for very long you start to get hit on by chicks but it seems to be Chinese hunting there. I've had some real honey chinese chicks chat me up on skype video calls (they call me at their own expense) & push hard to become GF. Although Im quite partial to bonking chinese women Im not interested in going to China so i let them slide.
Happy Mongering
Amavida
[QUOTE=Bilbo Baggins]I recently bought 2 kilos of cadbury's with me no problems with melting in the places I've been. I notice they sell it here and the gold wrapped ones taste different not as nice as Australian but... I bought a silver wrapped block in a special section in the supermarket and tried it today and I think it tastes the same as home but some lass ate all my supply when i wasnt looking so i cant compare anymore.
They do love it![/QUOTE]
They love those gold coin chocolates also.
These are great to hand out & cheap :)
Happy Mongering
Amavida
[QUOTE=Amavida]Hi Blink, I can confirm that Myspace, Friendster, Ringo & Tagged are all places where pinay's hunt us. For example a girl asked me to put an account on Tagged 6 weeks ago & I got about 100+ people all wishing to be 'friends'. All pinays, 18-35 year old. Many very nice ones & easy to get phone numbers for meeting if you say you are going to be there in their town soon.
The nice ting about these social networking sites is you can look at the friends of a friend & find stunners quite by accident.
I've even found that if you sit on the chat window of your Skype account for very long you start to get hit on by chicks but it seems to be Chinese hunting there. I've had some real honey chinese chicks chat me up on skype video calls (they call me at their own expense) & push hard to become GF. Although Im quite partial to bonking chinese women Im not interested in going to China so i let them slide.
Happy Mongering
Amavida[/QUOTE]
Hi,
I love my new Nokia 6500, its solid made, a bit heavy, that swhy I decide to buy Samsung U600...I buy that from the money I save now LOL..
Myspace successquota is now 25% to 35% from all the gurls I send messages...and they all look hot..
when I chat gurls on sites I dont even invest any money any more..just tell them I live on site and lookin for a GF....Imback in my country to get sme things done and be back to the Philippines next month.
I feel like one of those depressed housewifes...I surf the net and buy things , hahahaha...aside from that I collect contacts...
My filipina fren gave me that idea today while we chat on ym, she showed me one gurl she has been chattin on myspace...the gurl wasfrom AC and was telling her how many boyfriend she got from myspace :D
Good to know that myspace works on both directions... guys looking for non or semi pro gurls and gurls lookin for a sugardaddy, pass time BF or pontential husband/boyfriend on site.
Allways rember, they need us and if one doesnt like you there is anoter one right at the next corner waiting for you :)
Happy surfing!!!
Blink
Oddly, I had a Cebu Mango bargirl give the the 'House burnt' story in my hotel room. She's been the the bar biz for at least three months, and must know that I'm a player, but she still gave me that line. Duh.
She brought along her sis, and she suggested a 3some, but the sister wasn't going for it. I did try though.
Knowing she is mercenary, I lowballed on the tip (no barfine as I had her phone number from two months earlier). She complained...."blah, blah, blah, I have to buy wood."
I gave her a few hundred more and out the door she went.
Pictures to follow...
[QUOTE=Wazza88]Hi Sammon,
Having read some other Boards, I have seen negative comments concerning Craigslist (Personnals). When a girl places an ad she may receive some replies, she could even be receiving money from some men. A few intelligent guys who are actually gullible enough to send these girls money. It would be apparent that these men are thinking with the little head and not the big one. Some Filipina scams are more successful than the Nigerian ones and this is a clear demonstration of the power of the pussy. A lot of foreign men listen to and believe the heart-breaking stories of the Filipinas, you know, the usual, house burnt down,mother very sick, caribou became bakla(gay) and needs operation, no money for rice and so on. The guy starts sending $100 which he considers is not a lot of money. Eventually,the money sent increases as the man is further sucked into the girl's web of deceit.
You must treat these dating sites with the utmost caution. There have been instances where the pictures on these sites are fake not a girl but actually a guy posing as a girl. There are some desperate people on these sites who are con artists.
Fore-warned is fore-armed.
All the best and stay safe.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Wazza88]... A lot of foreign men listen to and believe the heart-breaking stories of the Filipinas, you know, the usual, house burnt down,mother very sick, caribou became bakla(gay) and needs operation, no money for rice and so on. The guy starts sending $100 which he considers is not a lot of money. Eventually,the money sent increases as the man is further sucked into the girl's web of deceit.
[/QUOTE]
Obviously its insanity to send money to someone you never met.
The hard part about these scams is they closely mirror real life. If you have ever had a pinay GF or wife u will know that the family's are always hitting on her with requests for help with medical/housing etc dramas.
In my experience, the more serious a girl is about you the less she will burden you with these. The less serious she is about you the less shy & more bold she will be about asking for more, more, more.
[QUOTE=Wazza88]
You must treat these dating sites with the utmost caution. There have been instances where the pictures on these sites are fake not a girl but actually a guy posing as a girl.
[/QUOTE]
You get girls doing amateur scamming, often bar girls.
You also get family's doing scams. I had the unexpected pleasure of popping a cherry girl of 18 in Manila late last year that I had met from Cherry Blossoms. Her scam was to meet me with her 'Uncle' (which she did) & talk marriage (which she did). Afterwards she hit me up for money for books etc. I caught her out with the assistance of Wicked Rodger in running the same line past many guys all at the same time. Getting her cherry popped was not in her game plan so I got away with an unexpected bonus :)
IMHO Cherry Blossoms is bad for scammers.
There are also many total fakes run by the local version of the mafia. This exists in all countries. Ever googled about the russian bride scammers? Rampant!
I dont get all bitter & twisted about scams, we mongers lie our heads off to girls all the time so what's good for the goose is good for the gander.
Sensible Mongering
Amavida
[QUOTE=Blink157]Hi,
I love my new Nokia 6500, its solid made, a bit heavy, that swhy I decide to buy Samsung U600...I buy that from the money I save now LOL..
Myspace successquota is now 25% to 35% from all the gurls I send messages...and they all look hot..
when I chat gurls on sites I dont even invest any money any more..just tell them I live on site and lookin for a GF....Imback in my country to get sme things done and be back to the Philippines next month.
I feel like one of those depressed housewifes...I surf the net and buy things , hahahaha...aside from that I collect contacts...
My filipina fren gave me that idea today while we chat on ym, she showed me one gurl she has been chattin on myspace...the gurl wasfrom AC and was telling her how many boyfriend she got from myspace :D
Good to know that myspace works on both directions... guys looking for non or semi pro gurls and gurls lookin for a sugardaddy, pass time BF or pontential husband/boyfriend on site.
Allways rember, they need us and if one doesnt like you there is anoter one right at the next corner waiting for you :)
Happy surfing!!!
Blink[/QUOTE]
How is the U700 now Blink? I quite like the samsung phones coz they are so thin & easy to carry & easy to use.
Here is an example of what you can pick up in the non pro 'looking for sugardaddy' line of girls from the net. The one in the middle is a GF. She is 18, gave me her cherry & screws me legless every time Im with her. Im very happy to be her sugardaddy. :)
In getting to know her & her friends you would be staggered at how many of these innocent little flower school girls are being banged by foreigner boyfriends... they start early I tell ya!!
Happy Sugardaddying
Amavida
Cb
C00942008
I was chatting online to two girls in AC when the girl sitting behind them ask one of them for their id, the guy she was chatting with thought she was a good sort.
Kind of feel sorry for the poor girl who had to ask to girl sitting behind her for her id, to give to a guy she was chatting to. Not very classy on his part even if she was a bar girl.
[quote=bob down]i was chatting online to two girls in ac when the girl sitting behind them ask one of them for their id, the guy she was chatting with thought she was a good sort.
kind of feel sorry for the poor girl who had to ask to girl sitting behind her for her id, to give to a guy she was chatting to. not very classy on his part even if she was a bar girl.[/quote]
hi,
maybe you new in this...and im also not aware what was really going on, but showing id (and you told here when the guy ask the gurl she gave her neighbours id not her own) has nothing to do if the gurl is a bargurl or what ever work she does in ac (actually ac is one big bar lol)
maybe he want to send money to her and need her korek name, or whats more important he want to see her age and adress, specially her age, most of them are ****.
yes its a hard world out there but dont feel sorry for strangers, feel sorry for your friends and your family, cause you know them. dont fall for soup stories and lies which most of them do, specially if they dont know you.
when im home and talk to some gurls i hear those stories evry day, well not now any more , cause they know if they start this bs before meeting me i just talk with somebody else. im not cold hearted, but i had to learn it the hard way.. i could have bought my own cellphone shop allready with the money i spend there lol.
ok, hope that helps
blink
ps it wasnt me, neither i think it was xmen, if it was xmen the gurl had to show him her income tax and social security card number lol joke :d
Gents,
First of all, thanks in advance for your assistance. I'm a regular poster on the Singapore board (and others whenever I travel) and am in need of some advice. I'm hoping I've dished out enough vital info by now to merit some in return. ;-)
I live in Singapore, I'm white, early 40's, no model but not bad looking either, so I've been told. I have a 7-9 days to spend on my own sometime over the next few months and plan to spend it making my first foray into the Philippines. Basically, I need some advice from some of you PI experts as to where I should spend my time in order to maximize my shagging prospects.
Obviously, I know Angeles City is considered sex central, but what I prefer is the temporary girlfriend type, non-pro or semi-pro cute, young girls who I'm able to pick up in malls, regular clubs and so forth. And by 'young girls' obviously I mean of legal age. I do have a thing for students part-timing it to pay their tuition though so I'd also need to know when school is in session and when it's not. And when and where are the best ways to get in touch with this sort of chick. I'm hitting up a few on Friendster and DateinAsia with some success already but finding a lot of those, perhaps most, are 'good girls' who, frankly, I don't have time to waste on courting since I'm going to be there only a short time.
I'm willing to travel anywhere in the country and probably would prefer to do this as opposed to staying in one place the entire week. I like variety and don't intend to stay with just one or two girls all week long. One or two new ones each day would suit me just fine. Obviously, I don't plan to see the whole country in a week, but I've gathered that I should at least visit Manila and Cebu or the Leyte area. And probably at least a night in Angeles just for the experience if time permits.
So then...before I start to ramble too much, suggestions please? Past comments from ISG that stick in my mind are 'the farther away from Angeles, the sweeter the girls are' and another comment about a university town not far from Cebu in Leyte (I think) just loaded with college girls hoping to get picked up. Ormoc City or Tacloban I think it was. Sounds like exactly what I'm after.
Again, thanks very much in advance!
Gaijin Gigolo
[QUOTE=Gaijin Gigolo]Gents,
First of all, thanks in advance for your assistance. I'm a regular poster on the Singapore board (and others whenever I travel) and am in need of some advice. I'm hoping I've dished out enough vital info by now to merit some in return. ;-)
I live in Singapore, I'm white, early 40's, no model but not bad looking either, so I've been told. I have a 7-9 days to spend on my own sometime over the next few months and plan to spend it making my first foray into the Philippines. Basically, I need some advice from some of you PI experts as to where I should spend my time in order to maximize my shagging prospects.
Obviously, I know Angeles City is considered sex central, but what I prefer is the temporary girlfriend type, non-pro or semi-pro cute, young girls who I'm able to pick up in malls, regular clubs and so forth. And by 'young girls' obviously I mean of legal age. I do have a thing for students part-timing it to pay their tuition though so I'd also need to know when school is in session and when it's not. And when and where are the best ways to get in touch with this sort of chick. I'm hitting up a few on Friendster and DateinAsia with some success already but finding a lot of those, perhaps most, are 'good girls' who, frankly, I don't have time to waste on courting since I'm going to be there only a short time.
I'm willing to travel anywhere in the country and probably would prefer to do this as opposed to staying in one place the entire week. I like variety and don't intend to stay with just one or two girls all week long. One or two new ones each day would suit me just fine. Obviously, I don't plan to see the whole country in a week, but I've gathered that I should at least visit Manila and Cebu or the Leyte area. And probably at least a night in Angeles just for the experience if time permits.
So then...before I start to ramble too much, suggestions please? Past comments from ISG that stick in my mind are 'the farther away from Angeles, the sweeter the girls are' and another comment about a university town not far from Cebu in Leyte (I think) just loaded with college girls hoping to get picked up. Ormoc City or Tacloban I think it was. Sounds like exactly what I'm after.
Again, thanks very much in advance!
Gaijin Gigolo[/QUOTE]
Hello GG! Welcome to the PI forums mate!
Someone like Xman with his seemingly encyclopedic knowledge could give you heaps of info. I'll try to make a humble contribution.
I guess you must realise that PI is a great place but dont expect Singaporean style efficiency. I say this because you only have a week & you dont want to waste pussy time sitting around in queues at airports etc.
Pinays have the usual aisan 'good girl' persona which overlays a very latin hot temperament. If you're going for NON P4P girls a little tact & patience is needed. A clean well dressed, well spoken guy will get a lot further than a culturally insensitive grub.
You are correct in assuming that the further you get from Manila, the more 'motivated' the girls are. Its less about money & more about getting a husband (& then money).
Having said that, I have to tell ya, there is so much pussy on tap in this country that GFE is available everywhere you go. Yes even in Angeles you will find lovely fresh girls just dyeing to get a 'nice guy' for a BF.
If you want to screw students with a minimum of courting then the university towns of Cebu or even Davao are happy hunting grounds. Cebu has the attraction that if you hit a dry spell there is plenty of P4P on tap as well.
A lot of guys go to Davao & hang around cafes frequented by after school crowds & pick 'em up like shooting fish in a barrel.
p.s. Weather : Mindanao is experiencing its normal monsoonal weather at the moment. Davao may be a lousy choice in that case. Dunno about Cebu but I suspect its pretty wet there also at the moment. Luzon is much drier.
p.p.s Vacation : My 18yr old JRU schoolie in Manila has just started a long semester break & gone back to the province. you may find a lot of them are on semester break at the moment meaning the schools/universities are pretty quiet right now.
Have a great time GG!
Happy Mongering
Amavida
With only one week, I would suggest to stay in one area. From Singapore you can fly direct into Cebu and this seems to fit the bill for what you want. Meet those online gals for lunch. You can usually get intimate with them by the second date -esp if they aren't virigin. And if things don't click, you can go the p4p route.
A wonderful and easy diversion from Cebu is the 90 minute Ocean Jet ride to Bohol. Take someone with you. Do a search for Panglao or Ahlona beach for more info.
I was in Cebu last week. As for the malls, I pulled one out of SM one afternoon, and also saw a really cute one at Robinsons Midtown. I had too much going on, but would have taken her in a heartbeat. About 15 min later she walked into my hotel with a customer. These were both p4p girls. I also met an absolute stunner at Robinosons, who was not p4p.
As for the stunner, she was in Cebu for work and didn't know the place well. So, we went to Fort San Pedro and St. Nino church, then a poolside drink at Waterfront, and then sunset on the mountain viewpoint which is called "tops". (800 pesos by taxi...the taxi will wait about an hour.) It get's cold up there so you have a perfect reason to cuddle. Finally dinner on roof of Holiday Plaza -- my room just three floors below.
I didn't get her gear off and it was my last night. She will be the first one I:ll call on my next trip though.
Back to your time limitation. I once had nine days and spent three days each in three locations: Manila, Cebu, Davao. I vowed to never do that again. I felt like I spend half my holiday doing the transit and check in/out hassle.
X
[QUOTE=Gaijin Gigolo]Gents,
First of all, thanks in advance for your assistance. I'm a regular poster on the Singapore board (and others whenever I travel) and am in need of some advice. I'm hoping I've dished out enough vital info by now to merit some in return. ;-)
I live in Singapore, I'm white, early 40's, no model but not bad looking either, so I've been told. I have a 7-9 days to spend on my own sometime over the next few months and plan to spend it making my first foray into the Philippines. Basically, I need some advice from some of you PI experts as to where I should spend my time in order to maximize my shagging prospects.
Obviously, I know Angeles City is considered sex central, but what I prefer is the temporary girlfriend type, non-pro or semi-pro cute, young girls who I'm able to pick up in malls, regular clubs and so forth. And by 'young girls' obviously I mean of legal age. I do have a thing for students part-timing it to pay their tuition though so I'd also need to know when school is in session and when it's not. And when and where are the best ways to get in touch with this sort of chick. I'm hitting up a few on Friendster and DateinAsia with some success already but finding a lot of those, perhaps most, are 'good girls' who, frankly, I don't have time to waste on courting since I'm going to be there only a short time.
I'm willing to travel anywhere in the country and probably would prefer to do this as opposed to staying in one place the entire week. I like variety and don't intend to stay with just one or two girls all week long. One or two new ones each day would suit me just fine. Obviously, I don't plan to see the whole country in a week, but I've gathered that I should at least visit Manila and Cebu or the Leyte area. And probably at least a night in Angeles just for the experience if time permits.
So then...before I start to ramble too much, suggestions please? Past comments from ISG that stick in my mind are 'the farther away from Angeles, the sweeter the girls are' and another comment about a university town not far from Cebu in Leyte (I think) just loaded with college girls hoping to get picked up. Ormoc City or Tacloban I think it was. Sounds like exactly what I'm after.
Again, thanks very much in advance!
Gaijin Gigolo[/QUOTE]
Hi Blink,
Sorry my mistake, I was talking about yahoo id so he can chat my girl up, it wasn't to do with sending money too her.
Coming from Australia the girls always asking me for Koala's, didn't see the harm in that until I found out they ask all Australians for Koala's.
Thai girls like Kangaroos, strange.
Excellent advice from X man, but if I may add the following to back it up:
[QUOTE=X Man]With only one week, I would suggest to stay in one area. From Singapore you can fly direct into Cebu and this seems to fit the bill for what you want. Meet those online gals for lunch. You can usually get intimate with them by the second date -esp if they aren't virigin. And if things don't click, you can go the p4p route.[/QUOTE]
Agreed, good idea to go direct to Cebu, in my opinion the girls are as good as if not better than Manila and life is somewhat cheaper too.
Met a few online gals in the daytime, as soon as they didnt show a sign of coming across with the goods, ie a refusal to go back to my hotel etc, then it was out to the Mango St Bars for some P4P that night.
[QUOTE=X Man]A wonderful and easy diversion from Cebu is the 90 minute Ocean Jet ride to Bohol. Take someone with you. Do a search for Panglao or Ahlona beach for more info.[/QUOTE]
Yep great place to go, but you must take a girl with you as there is very little or no action on the P4p front in TagB. Most Cebu Girls will jump at the chance to go there.
A good place to stay is Metro Central Hotel in centre of TagB it is 3 star at around $50 per night, not fantastic, but good enough to impress most girls.
Do day trips and the tourist thing, rent a car and driver for a day, the girls all love it too.
[QUOTE=X Man]I was in Cebu last week. As for the malls, I pulled one out of SM one afternoon, and also saw a really cute one at Robinsons Midtown. I had too much going on, but would have taken her in a heartbeat. About 15 min later she walked into my hotel with a customer. These were both p4p girls. I also met an absolute stunner at Robinosons, who was not p4p.[/QUOTE]
Yep Cebu malls are confirmed as top notch for meeting and playing with non P4P, probably the same as most malls in Phils though. I found Ayala a bit sparse and mostly full of ''too expensive'' shops which seemed to keep the regular girls away. SM the best for choice and Robinsons confirmed as a known Pick-Up Point. Sit at Bo's Coffe and watch it all go by, if it smiles and you like it, then its yours!!!
[QUOTE=X Man]Back to your time limitation. I once had nine days and spent three days each in three locations: Manila, Cebu, Davao. I vowed to never do that again. I felt like I spend half my holiday doing the transit and check in/out hassle. X[/QUOTE]
Agreed, we found that even spending a week in Makati then a week in Cebu combined with Bohol etc was time consuming on the travel side of things.
Recommend you go direct to Cebu, enjoy a few days in Bohol and write a FR telling us all about the fun you had. - enjoy :)
Cheers, F/Fifty
Fifty (mall comments are about Cebu city)
Ayala is good for meeting up with women you already know, but I've never found it a good pick up place. I'm really sad that the little "Jap" bar closed down. That was such a cool place to sit, have a beer, and watch the candy walk by.
Robinsons Midtown is good for first time women you met in chat because it is so central to the jeepney routes. But if she is from Mandaue or Mactan, go for SM since it is closer for the girls. Another option is tell the lady to take a taxi and you will pay for it. This can easily save you a lot of time. Just be aware that if the woman doesn't have money she might expect you to meet her while she's still in the taxi so that you can pay for it. Well, that only happend once
If you have time, go to a mall that doesn't see many foreigners.
Fifty, why stay in the Metro Hotel in Tagbilaran? I went directly to Alona beach. I had a room right on the beach. I'd have been fish food if there had been a tsunami. Beach front room sure puts the ladies in the mood. I went twice, with two different ladies, and both times spend more time on the bed than on the beach.
X
You go to Bohol for beaches yet stay in a port town? Unclear on the concept me thinks. Alona Beach is less than 45 minutes away, but if you want city attractions why bother with the boat ride to Bohol at all? Use the boat fare to get a nicer room in the city.
I also think a week is enough time to see two places since you are only flying 3 hours (from SIN). Cebu is gateway to Visayas and Mindanao, so you have your pick of loads of great beaches that are easily accessible from Cebu airport.
I find tops very overrated AND overpriced. In addition to the taxi fare, the entrance fee is 100 P per head I believe. So in toto you are talking $25 for an OK view (nice at sunset). And unless it is VERY CLEAR up on the mountain, it is a waste of time and money as there is NOTHING to do up there (other than ringing the bell which is no big deal).
The ladies eyes light up big if you surprise them with Toblerone Chocolate and the large Symphony by Hershey's. The bars only cost 1USD when on sale in the USA.
As far as dating sites, I have had the most luck with CB and FH in the past. They are about 25 usd a month. I have much better luck now that I mention I have visited the Philippines in the past. I just signed up for the free site DateinAsia, not bad for free, but has the most gays of anysite.
I hope to meet Nurses and also Phil/American mixed girls, but have no idea where to look for them.
I have hopes of visiting the country for 3 months this comming up trip. Now I am looking for good weekly rates so I can keep my cost down, but still be flexible if I want to take off to another location. Good Enough Has given me some good ideas for Davao, I am also looking for decent places in Mania and Cebu. Most of the travel websites do not offer weekle rates, only daily.
I also plan to buy a phone in Manila from a Smart dealer. They let you use the phone as a modem for your wireless computer. So basically you have internet access anywhere there is phone access. The cost is only 20 peso for 30 mins. This sounds almost to good to be true, and I have not seen a review of someone who has actually used the Smart wireless.
I should be in the Philipines starting in May for 3 months, if anyone want to meet up and share stories or ideas.
[QUOTE=HornyGeorge]You go to Bohol for beaches yet stay in a port town? Unclear on the concept me thinks. [/QUOTE]
Did I mention beaches, Bohol has more than beaches and has many nice places to go to away from the cities.
[QUOTE=X Man]Fifty, why stay in the Metro Hotel in Tagbilaran?[/QUOTE]
Cos its cheap, quite well appointed and a good base to travel from on day trips, yet enjoy some night life later in the day.
Guys there is more to the Phils than beaches, I happen to have a house on the beach in South UK, lived in Dubai for a long time and have an Apartment overlooking the beach in Kazakhstan - enough sand for me thanks !!!
Cheers F/Fifty
i just have to share this story, i thought it was so funny i nearly wet my pants and not the good kind of pants wetting.
i was hanging out on the filipina magic (they get their feeds from acm i think) site checking out the rooms and seeing what kind of talent was there.
i came accross these 3 girls in the one session and started chatting with them. the girl in the middle looked so miserable but the other 2 were very friendly.
i asked tham abouht their show, what they did etc and thay came back with the standard answer "anything you want baby".
i started out by asking them if they would do all sorts of perverted things (deep anal, [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url], etc etc) to the msiserable girl and they agreed they would.
so i asked them if i went private with them i wanted them to take the girl in the middle, strip her down then beat her with a stick, without batting an eyelash they replied sure.
so then i asked them to if they would take the girl and choke her untell she stopped breathing. once again no problem with that one.
the i ask them would they kill the miserable girl, chop her up and eat them. finally the girl who had been typing said no. she tells me that she needs 3 girls for the show so she could not do that. she then asks me if i am crazy,
by now i am laughing so much at the willingness to do just about anything and their reaction that i decide since they were such good sports with my proposals that i took them private.
when i get them there they ask me what i want, i told them nothing i just wanted to reward them for their putting up with my questions. finally the miserable one smiled.
anyway i think it was as funny as hell, you may not but i do have a warped sense of humor.
if you like that one let me know and i will tell you about the anal cam girl with her period.
john
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Holiday Plaza on Ramos (near midtown) is very good about storing baggage while you are island hopping.
X
[QUOTE=Bob Bowie]The ladies eyes light up big if you surprise them with Toblerone Chocolate and the large Symphony by Hershey's. The bars only cost 1USD when on sale in the USA.
As far as dating sites, I have had the most luck with CB and FH in the past. They are about 25 usd a month. I have much better luck now that I mention I have visited the Philippines in the past. I just signed up for the free site DateinAsia, not bad for free, but has the most gays of anysite.
I hope to meet Nurses and also Phil/American mixed girls, but have no idea where to look for them.
I have hopes of visiting the country for 3 months this comming up trip. Now I am looking for good weekly rates so I can keep my cost down, but still be flexible if I want to take off to another location. Good Enough Has given me some good ideas for Davao, I am also looking for decent places in Mania and Cebu. Most of the travel websites do not offer weekle rates, only daily.
I also plan to buy a phone in Manila from a Smart dealer. They let you use the phone as a modem for your wireless computer. So basically you have internet access anywhere there is phone access. The cost is only 20 peso for 30 mins. This sounds almost to good to be true, and I have not seen a review of someone who has actually used the Smart wireless.
I should be in the Philipines starting in May for 3 months, if anyone want to meet up and share stories or ideas.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Bob Bowie]
I also plan to buy a phone in Manila from a Smart dealer. They let you use the phone as a modem for your wireless computer. So basically you have internet access anywhere there is phone access. The cost is only 20 peso for 30 mins. This sounds almost to good to be true, and I have not seen a review of someone who has actually used the Smart wireless.[/QUOTE]Hi Bob,
The only prob being that most Philippine ISP's insist on a minimum contract (usually 12 months). Their service stinks as well. If you google a Pinoy ISP review sites you will be amused at the inventive vitriolic invective heaped on these ISP's particularly Globe, Smart and PLDT. Hope you have better luck and enjoy your time in the Philippines.
BTW have you or any other member had experience with the Philippine section of Adult Friend Finders? There seems to be an awful lot of cute looking pinays on there (and an equally large number of grannies and woofers). Is it rich pickings or a waste of time?
[QUOTE=Gamahucher]Hi Bob,
BTW have you or any other member had experience with the Philippine section of Adult Friend Finders? There seems to be an awful lot of cute looking pinays on there (and an equally large number of grannies and woofers). Is it rich pickings or a waste of time?[/QUOTE]
Am a member of the site. Yes there are a few good ones there but an awful lot of dogs and ones where even a brown bag over your head would not be sufficient :D
But the real issue is that if you really want the better pickings you need to pay. So I use DIA and CB for some fun.
[QUOTE=Wicked Roger]Am a member of the site. Yes there are a few good ones there but an awful lot of dogs and ones where even a brown bag over your head would not be sufficient :D
But the real issue is that if you really want the better pickings you need to pay. So I use DIA and CB for some fun.[/QUOTE]
Just for fun I went over & registered in Asian Friendfinder & Filipino Friendfinder. Got hits immediately in AFF. FFF nothin.
I got so many hits from DIA that i had to hide the profile!
YMMV
Cheers
Amavida
[QUOTE=Amavida]
I got so many hits from DIA that i had to hide the profile!
YMMV
Cheers
Amavida[/QUOTE]
DIA is great for hits but still the number of scammers is huge! However, here I am enjoying the pleasures of a CB girl (no longer a cherry - you would be proud Amavida) plus I have another 6 to see in the 2 days. Fancy quick trip to help a mate :D And yes as per your PM that will also happen......
All DIA, all hit up when I was coming Cebu, all keen and confirmed....what does a good man do? And the (ex) cherry CB girl currently lying in my bed wanting more...hard life mongering :D
[QUOTE=Wicked Roger]Fancy quick trip to help a mate :D[/QUOTE]
Hehehehe :D very tempting offer WR!
Only trouble I got so many confirmed hits from DIA its all i can do to keep up!
Take care mate & happy mongering!
Amavida
[QUOTE=Amavida]Hehehehe :D very tempting offer WR!
Only trouble I got so many confirmed hits from DIA its all i can do to keep up!
Take care mate & happy mongering!
Amavida[/QUOTE]
:D
My CB (now ex cherry) girl returns to the provinces tomorrow and I have 6 DIAs to follow up on in a day - so keeping it up will be the order of the day. Some will not play, some have indicated already they will such as:
Me: you know I am makulit (naughty)
DIA: yes I like makulit and I am
Me: so what shall we do when you come to my hotel room
DIA: I want ride on top
She is definitely coming and had 10 SMS from her today. But just in case I also have other plans. Failing all else, Mango St :)
DIA is less hassle I find, easier to get the girls to YM you as well as no restrictions apparently on sending email addresses.
c00818657
David where ever you are please forgive cecelle its breaking my heart to hear her cry every night.
Ha, ha, that's pretty funny. I can't believe how insecure some guys are. I'm assuming he scolded her for updating her profile. My subscription has expired, or I would send her a message.
I had one girl who not only posted new pictures after I left, but used one of the pictures that I took. Was I offended? Was I jealous that she's still chatting with guys? NOT A BIT! In fact I hope you guys get in her pants as easily as I did.
Thanks for the post BB.
X
[QUOTE=Bilbo Baggins]c00818657
David where ever you are please forgive cecelle its breaking my heart to hear her cry every night.[/QUOTE]
Recently I received a smile from a young lady. She was a buxom lass who with a big smile and I was happy to reply. After a few letters we moved to YM where I soon became concerned because she never seemed to have a cam. None the less she seemed quite nice, but I thought a touch too flirtatious as she recalled her time in her early 20's when she made money in several bikini contests. So I was not surprised when on our 3rd ym chat she came up with a sick relative. Not surprisingly when I gently but firmly made it clear that I would not be paying for any medical treatments she immediately excused her self to the CR and never returned.
The surprise was when I joined friendster. Friendster will go through your ym and other address lists and try to contact everyone on the list!! But as I was going through pruning my list down (no need to give every Filipina I meet a complete list of my other friends. Well I'm looking through the list and up pops this drag queen who looks like a reject from Tom Browning's "Freaks".
So if you get a smile from C00883630, just remember that you are really talking to [url]http://www.friendster.com/viewphotos.php?uid=53978709&a=0[/url] Noth'n left to do but send a note to CB, take a long hot shower, and move on.
-S
Smart has an option of using a cell phone as the modem for your laptop. This does not require a contract with them. On my last trip I spent so much more money than I needed looking for hotels that had Internet available in the rooms.
This times I am looking for places that offer good weekly rates so that I can move around a lot. I plan to spend a month or so in both Cebu and Davao.
Date In Asia has been great so far, easy to use, free and you can even put your yahoo id in your profile if you like. Just click on the "last active" and find a cute girl that is on line. They do not have a great search function, like FH and Bu they do have a link at the bottom listing all the different cities, so you can hit up all thy cute girls in the city of choice a few days before your visit.
Sojourner, I have a Friedster profile, never look at it, and find it a pain. The friend list creates problems as someone has posted on ISG about a year or two ago. Fking friend contacts some other fking friend and you know how jealous Filipinas can be...
So, how do you filter the friend list? Sorry, I'm completely naive about Friendster.
Second, I get weekly messages from Friendster "friends". I don't know why I get their message since I never added them. Some are married and living in the west.....I don't want to hear from them. Others are pretty hot....
I guess this is a Duh...question....hope you can elaborate.
X
[QUOTE=Sojourner]Recently I received a smile from a young lady. She was a buxom lass who with a big smile and I was happy to reply. After a few letters we moved to YM where I soon became concerned because she never seemed to have a cam. None the less she seemed quite nice, but I thought a touch too flirtatious as she recalled her time in her early 20's when she made money in several bikini contests. So I was not surprised when on our 3rd ym chat she came up with a sick relative. Not surprisingly when I gently but firmly made it clear that I would not be paying for any medical treatments she immediately excused her self to the CR and never returned.
The surprise was when I joined friendster. Friendster will go through your ym and other address lists and try to contact everyone on the list!! But as I was going through pruning my list down (no need to give every Filipina I meet a complete list of my other friends. Well I'm looking through the list and up pops this drag queen who looks like a reject from Tom Browning's "Freaks".
So if you get a smile from C00883630, just remember that you are really talking to [url]http://www.friendster.com/viewphotos.php?uid=53978709&a=0[/url] Noth'n left to do but send a note to CB, take a long hot shower, and move on.
-S[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=X Man]Sojourner, I have a Friedster profile, never look at it, and find it a pain. The friend list creates problems as someone has posted on ISG about a year or two ago. Fking friend contacts some other fking friend and you know how jealous Filipinas can be...
So, how do you filter the friend list? Sorry, I'm completely naive about Friendster.
Second, I get weekly messages from Friendster "friends". I don't know why I get their message since I never added them. Some are married and living in the west.....I don't want to hear from them. Others are pretty hot....
I guess this is a Duh...question....hope you can elaborate.
X[/QUOTE]
I am new to Friendster so someone else could offer more knowledgeable advice, but during the joining process, I saw a window of people it was going to contact. You can uncheck everyone and avoid having too many friends when you start. However I suspect they keep addresses, so anyone who as asked you to join in the past will probably be notified. Not sure who else gets a 'heads-up' but the companie's focus is on getting people to have as many friends as possible, so they probably give a note to others who are already a part of friendster. Just a guess.
Regards
-S
[QUOTE=X Man]Sojourner, I have a Friedster profile, never look at it, and find it a pain. The friend list creates problems as someone has posted on ISG about a year or two ago. Fking friend contacts some other fking friend and you know how jealous Filipinas can be...
So, how do you filter the friend list? Sorry, I'm completely naive about Friendster.
Second, I get weekly messages from Friendster "friends". I don't know why I get their message since I never added them. Some are married and living in the west.....I don't want to hear from them. Others are pretty hot....
I guess this is a Duh...question....hope you can elaborate.
X[/QUOTE]
X, my Manila GF is a mad friendster addict so of course I had to get one also... ugh. Great if u want to sniff out women for contacts but a pain as u say when they all post those damn 'bulletins' to u & everybody they know. U can turn a lot of this rubbish off in your account settings or just remove them as a friend. The account settings are at the top right of the page.
Another thing i do is to make my profile 'private' & make it visible only to friends, friend requests are set to manual approval.
I had the same experience with Tagged & Ringo.
Cheers
AV
I had my way with this girl from the first night.... CB girl, I took her to Jacks and then Venue restaurant...on a subsequent meeting we went to Paradise after a tryst. But this was not p4p.
""Hi!!! X, my birthday is near,this comin april 20 and i would love to demand u just in a very special moment of my life im begging u with all ur heart.im asking help just to have CPU back and i can have internet back and to chat,to contact wiht u again pls pls pls..... Salamat X..... miss yah...."
This is kind of out of the blue, she hasn't been in contact much. She's really out of character with this post.
My plan is to send a really nice b-day message in April.
And I will repeat an often ignored suggestion....if you feel slighted or scammed by a lady, don't react in a bad way. Telling her you feel SCAMMED, could just result in a scammer refining her technique. And if a girl is so desperate to try these kinds of stategies, she may very well be open to suggestions when you meet face to face.
What would you do?
X
First Filipina I ever tagged was gained from chatting online. A gym trainer in Manila. Presently married to someone reading this now in New York. Ha-ha. Sorry had to laugh to myself.
Second was a teacher of Physical Therapy at a prestigious university. Also now in the US married in my hometown at that.
In my experience most of the girls have been on some hi tech shit (hi tech shit hometown slang for fucking crazy) I had one in Davao who would always strip for 10 dollars on web cam. At first I loved it but then I guess maturity kicked in and I started to feel sorry for her. She was “virgin” when I met her for the cherry obsessed crowd. Last I heard of her some Filipino guy had knocked her up and she tried to kill the baby by drinking some poison that didn’t work. Then she turned around and asked me for the abortion money.
The other ladies had the all familiar “I want to get married and go work in the states” routine going.
Cebu is lighting rod for the chatters. Chatted with one Cebuana an Accountant recently that was suppose to meet me in Phuket but canceled that after the hi tech shit in her came out.
Now chatting with a 22 year old gorgeous nurse who is suppose to be meeting me next month the wheel turns and turns....
Fellow Mongers
Have returned from a week in Cebu and Manila and was mainly chasing CB and DIA contacts rather than normal mongering haunts such as bars. So here is a few ‘tip’ for those who like the chase… Other may disagree and that is fine just my bit for those newbies maybe
1. It is(or can be) a lot of effort with CB and DIA girls, contacting them, chatting with them, getting them to see you will take time and there will be frustration along the way
2. Try to start the contact about a week before you do – you will likely get lots of positives but from my experience you can whittle the scammers and time waster easily
3. Neither DIA or CB are better than each some have profiles on both, DIA is easier as you can provide you email and chat address straightaway, CB does not allow this
4. Always cam with the girl – sensible but surprising how we can think (with our todgers!) when we are chatting. I did see one DAI girl on spec and it was a great success (see FR Makati) but I would not recommend it – it could be a lady boy etc and that would be an interesting walk into the hotel….
5. When you arrange to meet offer to pay the taxi fare (as said earlier). Time keeping is not a Filipina specialty. If they say 15 mins allow and hour especially if they are travelling with a jeepney (hence pay for their taxi). It will be a very frustrating wait for them and if you have more girls lined up after this meet then your plans could be shot
6. Always have Plans A, B, C, D….plenty as guaranteed one or more will drop out at the last minute
7. They may (generally do) bring a friend. This is a comfort blanket and support in case we turn out to be someone they do not like etc and in case ewe are sex crazed mongers who want to drag them in to bed :). This can work to your advantage as by agreeing you show your sensitive and understanding nature and the friend may be better than the girl you meet so possibly you get the chance to score twice
8. Getting in between their lovely legs and shaved pussy is not easy (not a calk walk) you do need some effort, charm them, listen and be nice. Compliments and some words in tagalong help. I know a few – mainly rude – but it makes them smile and then you have a chance.
9. Do not expect a shag the first time but this is possible – read my FRs – but make sure she knows your agenda either beforehand when you chat or certainly in the first ‘date’. If you really want her tell her, I find they are not that fazed and some like the attention. Naturally you may come unstuck but then you should have the next Plan working for you.
10. Don’t be too pushy guys, they sort of know what you after and they may give you want we are chasing but being to aggressive and pushy tends to be a turn off for Filipinas. A more subtle approach is needed
11. Generally I like the chase and the girls I have met are nice, honest some very horny some want it on the second date, so you should be successful if you plan ahead and work the chatroom properly
This list may not please and be approved by all but this is my take on matters.
Happy hunting and keep hard and horny
[QUOTE=Wicked Roger]Fellow Mongers
Have returned from a week in Cebu and Manila and was mainly chasing CB and DIA contacts rather than normal mongering haunts such as bars. So here is a few ‘tip’ for those who like the chase… Other may disagree and that is fine just my bit for those newbies maybe
1. It is(or can be) a lot of effort with CB and DIA girls, contacting them, chatting with them, getting them to see you will take time and there will be frustration along the way
2. Try to start the contact about a week before you do – you will likely get lots of positives but from my experience you can whittle the scammers and time waster easily
3. Neither DIA or CB are better than each some have profiles on both, DIA is easier as you can provide you email and chat address straightaway, CB does not allow this
4. Always cam with the girl – sensible but surprising how we can think (with our todgers!) when we are chatting. I did see one DAI girl on spec and it was a great success (see FR Makati) but I would not recommend it – it could be a lady boy etc and that would be an interesting walk into the hotel….
5. When you arrange to meet offer to pay the taxi fare (as said earlier). Time keeping is not a Filipina specialty. If they say 15 mins allow and hour especially if they are travelling with a jeepney (hence pay for their taxi). It will be a very frustrating wait for them and if you have more girls lined up after this meet then your plans could be shot
6. Always have Plans A, B, C, D….plenty as guaranteed one or more will drop out at the last minute
7. They may (generally do) bring a friend. This is a comfort blanket and support in case we turn out to be someone they do not like etc and in case ewe are sex crazed mongers who want to drag them in to bed :). This can work to your advantage as by agreeing you show your sensitive and understanding nature and the friend may be better than the girl you meet so possibly you get the chance to score twice
8. Getting in between their lovely legs and shaved pussy is not easy (not a calk walk) you do need some effort, charm them, listen and be nice. Compliments and some words in tagalong help. I know a few – mainly rude – but it makes them smile and then you have a chance.
9. Do not expect a shag the first time but this is possible – read my FRs – but make sure she knows your agenda either beforehand when you chat or certainly in the first ‘date’. If you really want her tell her, I find they are not that fazed and some like the attention. Naturally you may come unstuck but then you should have the next Plan working for you.
10. Don’t be too pushy guys, they sort of know what you after and they may give you want we are chasing but being to aggressive and pushy tends to be a turn off for Filipinas. A more subtle approach is needed
11. Generally I like the chase and the girls I have met are nice, honest some very horny some want it on the second date, so you should be successful if you plan ahead and work the chatroom properly
This list may not please and be approved by all but this is my take on matters.
Happy hunting and keep hard and horny[/QUOTE]
Hi WR,
Well said advice, good post!
In regards to point 3) I'd like to add that if you have a busy life DIA is preferable to CB. On CB girls have on their profile hometown as being for Zamboanga for instance but only after days of on board chat or YM'ing do u find out they are actually in Cebu or some such. On DIA you can post your location & contact details up front & can get to the truth of their location quicker. The only site better is FK where you can get there complete contact details by being a paid member.
In regards to point 4) Yep very important to see them on cam, profile pics can be out of date & asking to see them weeds out the out-right frauds real quick. Quite a few genuine girls use cousins or friends to keep there online persona humming along whilst they are elsewhere, usually not a good sign either.
As regards the rest, common courtesy & manners really. i've told many guys, if you're going to meet girls from dating sites you have to at least _try_ to appear a little genuine.. hehehehe ;)
Cheers Rodge, sounds like you had an exhausting but great time.
Amavida
Hello Amavida, pardon my ignorance, but what is FK?
My last trip was based on CB girls, with reserve options, sometimes plans B, C and D.
All in all, it worked well. Of the three in Davao, two bonked almost immediately, or after maybe an hour of pleasant chatter. The third, Miss B, was a dead loss, and I think she is a scammer who hasn't made much money out of me.
Butuan had only one very suspect CB contact, and it turned out that she was pretty plump. She had made it clear from the minute that we met, that she would be into it, but she was a real turnoff - photo did not match reality. But she is now a good potential procurer, as I have treated her in a dignified way.
There were two CB contacts set up for Manila, both showed right on time, both were goers.
There was one for Angeles. She showed right on time, but was another case of photo not matching reality. But as before, I treated her with dignity, had a nice lunch, and she is now a potential procurer.
And for me, they are much better gfe than p4p girls, far less likely to be diseased, good for bareback which I really prefer.. They look after me, wash, clean, cook, manicure, massage, wash me in the shower, fuck on cue, and are good conversationalists etc.
So it works, just that it is a high risk game. They may back out at the last minute - none in my case; the photo may misrepresent reality - 2 in my case, but the ones that did climb into my bed were enthusiastic, good roots, all now desperately in love, when will I come back? And the backup plans generally worked, so I got my rocks off every night, generally with little effort at searching etc.
Much of the problems that I had, arose from my own ignorance in using the CB search engine. I put in the wrong height range and weight range. Now I know better, having gone through the finer details of all of the entrants in a beauty contest, recorded and graphed their heights and weights. So now I have a ready reference against to compare the stats of any CB girl that may be of interest.
I also find that it is expensive in time, takes hours to search, scan, send messages, reply, follow up etc. I operate on the basis of the numbers game, plenty of starters, and see how many keep going till it is time for me to travel.
So!
I'm doing it again next time, with some refinements.
[QUOTE=Gangles]Hello Amavida, pardon my ignorance, but what is FK?[/QUOTE]
'Filipino Kisses' (sic)
[url]http://filipinokisses.com/[/url]
This is a paid web site but _very efficient_ because you can quickly find girls by location & then each girl must have full contact details on their profile... saves me a lot of time... The other approach is on DIA just put in your profile The dates & location you will be along with email address & phils cp #, then stand back & wait for you email box to fill up with 'pick me! pick me!' type messages hehehe :)
CB has a huge number of members but I find it tedious to quickly get location (the real one) & contact details. YMMV
[QUOTE=Gangles]My last trip was based on CB girls, with reserve options, sometimes plans B, C and D.
All in all, it worked well. Of the three in Davao, two bonked almost immediately, or after maybe an hour of pleasant chatter. The third, Miss B, was a dead loss, and I think she is a scammer who hasn't made much money out of me.[/QUOTE]
Hi Gangles, Excellent, glad to hear it went so well!
[QUOTE=Gangles]Butuan had only one very suspect CB contact, and it turned out that she was pretty plump. She had made it clear from the minute that we met, that she would be into it, but she was a real turnoff - photo did not match reality. But she is now a good potential procurer, as I have treated her in a dignified way. There were two CB contacts set up for Manila, both showed right on time, both were goers.[/QUOTE]
Yep gotta see 'em on cam my man! BTW my Manila non P4P GF is back in Butuan (Bayugan actually) at the moment, hope u did'nt do her also ... hehehehe :D
[QUOTE=Gangles]There was one for Angeles. She showed right on time, but was another case of photo not matching reality. But as before, I treated her with dignity, had a nice lunch, and she is now a potential procurer.
And for me, they are much better gfe than p4p girls, far less likely to be diseased, good for bareback which I really prefer.. They look after me, wash, clean, cook, manicure, massage, wash me in the shower, fuck on cue, and are good conversationalists etc.[/QUOTE]
Actually many of the BG's are pretty conservative, they tend to be serially monogamous, but who can be sure about any woman...
[QUOTE=Gangles]So it works, just that it is a high risk game. They may back out at the last minute - none in my case; the photo may misrepresent reality - 2 in my case, but the ones that did climb into my bed were enthusiastic, good roots, all now desperately in love, when will I come back? And the backup plans generally worked, so I got my rocks off every night, generally with little effort at searching etc.[/QUOTE]
Yeah great for guys who need want to arrange some action in advance although there is no shortage of it once you are there..
[QUOTE=Gangles]I also find that it is expensive in time, takes hours to search, scan, send messages, reply, follow up etc. I operate on the basis of the numbers game, plenty of starters, and see how many keep going till it is time for me to travel. I'm doing it again next time, with some refinements.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, in my situation (live here 6 months of the year) I dont need to rely dating sites but it is great fun to dabble in meeting fresh talent that way.
I agree its very expensive in time something I dont have much of. (I tend to only join up those web sites now & then for 1 month & then drop off the radar so that I dont get overloaded) The flip side of course is plenty of action organised for you before you arrive so no sitting around when you get there!
Man sounds like you had a great time! Congrats on a sucessful mission!
Amavida
AV is right, the restictions on CB are a problem. You can't give contact info on first post, and they get banned if they do. I keep going back to them, because even after I end my subscription, I still get hotties posting into my account and I can't read it unless I subscribe. That is one of the reasons I asked Jackson to create this thread, but in the end, most guys aren't willing to give up the contact info ...but thanks to those of you who have (via pm).
If you find a hottie that is online at CB you can get her contact info then and there - no problem.
Scammers and others get banned pretty quickly. This is great if you are some moron (I'm exagerrating, please forgive my caustic nature) desperate for a wife and plan to propose online, and meet for the first date at the embassy to process the paperwork.
AV also mentions "location", but I don't get it. Regardless of the site, women might post their hometown, rather than their actual location. This is a problem with chat women, but I don't understand how one provider can be better than the other.
So, always ask about location. And make sure you ask if her 18 yr old cat is shaved or wants to be shaved. WR wants to know.
X
[QUOTE=X Man]
So, always ask about location. And make sure you ask if her 18 yr old cat is shaved or wants to be shaved. WR wants to know.
X[/QUOTE]
And so does Fifty Fifty as he will get out the razor and assist :D No shave no shag..well with me (and FF) - we are picky :D
Seriously, X is right check age, I always ask when their birthday is as a few not 18 so beware out there.......
[quote=x man]av is right, the restictions on cb are a problem. you can't give contact info on first post, and they get banned if they do. i keep going back to them, because even after i end my subscription, i still get hotties posting into my account and i can't read it unless i subscribe. that is one of the reasons i asked jackson to create this thread, but in the end, most guys aren't willing to give up the contact info ...but thanks to those of you who have (via pm).
if you find a hottie that is online at cb you can get her contact info then and there - no problem.
scammers and others get banned pretty quickly. this is great if you are some moron (i'm exagerrating, please forgive my caustic nature) desperate for a wife and plan to propose online, and meet for the first date at the embassy to process the paperwork.
av also mentions "location", but i don't get it. regardless of the site, women might post their hometown, rather than their actual location. this is a problem with chat women, but i don't understand how one provider can be better than the other.
so, always ask about location. and make sure you ask if her 18 yr old cat is shaved or wants to be shaved. wr wants to know.
x[/quote]
hi x,
im very time pressured so my approach is to search by location, then check attractiveness, then start a chat to confirm location & determine the girls intentions/personality.
i dont search on looks first, there's just too many of them & they are rep001tered all over the place. i find chatting 'blind' is a real time waster. as you say x, many post their home town in the friggin province as their location when they are actually at the other end of the country & vice versa. grrr!
with fk every profile has full contact details (if you are paid member).
you go into a chat knowing her address & cp#. all you have to do is confirm it at the start of the conversation to prevent wasting hours on line with inane mind numbing stuff like 'hi my name is ,,,' : k, 'hows things? : k, 'want to bite the heads off kittens & use their blood to write love poetry?' : sup2u
- uggghh!
if they make it past the first interview then i email them a pic & push them to email me a pic back. amazing how different the profile pic can be to the one they email you....
so far i have't found any hirsute elderly cats but i'll keep looking coz i know our friend wr really likes them! :d
c'ya
av
I'll chime in briefly with my experience on Filipino Kisses.
I signed up a month and a half ago. It is convenient from a contact standpoint - you get all the information upfront. The search capability is rudimentary at best.
In the first month I got about 100 contacts only 10 of them initiated by me browsing a profile. I had 25 contacts in that time, but that is inflated by the fact that I reply to all emails even if it is just to decline.
I've chatted with about a 15 women. Of those, 10 made it over yahoo messenger and a cam. Five or six are regulars. Four or five seemed either unstable or constantly hinting they need money, so dropped them.
I don't have the discipline to ignore emails from 20 Y.O.s even though I'm happier with 30 somethings, so 4 of my regular chat'ers are in that group. All of them are using internet cafes, so no tits for me.
My 30 or so "Admirers" are mostly women over 40. So that hasn't been very useful. After a month, the spontaneous contacts have dropped sharply. Guess I'm no longer fresh meat.
It's difficult to keep the interest stoked for I'm going to go actively browsing in my city and age range in a week or two. That's closer to my trip and easier to sustain
I'd echo what an earlier poster said and wait until one month before you trip to sign up. It's been fun, but it's a bit of a sinkhole timewise and I don't think it'll yield any more in-person contacts than waiting would have.
I won't know until I hit Davao City in early May what my conversion rate is.
On the whole, I'd prefer Filipina Kisses, but I guess that domain name was taken.
-- SbySW
[QUOTE=Wicked Roger]And so does Fifty Fifty as he will get out the razor and assist :D [/QUOTE]
Hey WR I do not recall having to assist you or asking for your help, you know the Barber of Dubai, (AKA Klipper of Kazakhstan, Mower of Makati and Coiffeur of Cebu) prefers to sail single handed.
[QUOTE=Wicked Roger]No shave no shag..well with me (and FF) - we are picky :D [/QUOTE]
Agreed, bald is best mate, but each to his own.
As for Dating Sites, I used CB and found it as X says, very tedious to sort the wheat from the chaff. However there it seems to be well moderated and the new site format is pretty good too.
Cheers, F/Fifty
You guys have opened my eyes to a wealth of new info so when I read about this DIA site (sounds like a memorial to dead mongers), I thought I would give it a go. However initial results are not promising. From the first day (last week) my 'members interested' bit filled rapidly but mainly with grannies and pinay lumberjacks (at least thats what they looked like).
Singled out some pretty ones but the dialogue is like having a molar pulled. And all in that infuriating textspeak that Filipina's love so much. Couple of examples.
Girl (age 29): Hi, how ru? I'm virgie, nice to meet u. Blah, drivel, blah
Me: Hello, You are too old to be a virgie
Girl: Wot you mean? Blah, drivel, blah.
Another lovely girl posted a sexy, revealing pic of herself (maybe) and then complained in the pen pic that she didn't want people contacting her because of her looks but because of her inner radiance. Duh. Wtf.
Me: If you don't want people contacting you for your looks why post a pic with your tits hanging out?
She blocked me.
Do you think I should be more subtle and circumspect? Or maybe go back to AFF where you can cut straight to the chase and view some mucky pix to boot.
C00986741
"18 years of age, a chemical eng.technology student. honestly im seeking a sponsor for my education.. im not interested in sexy chat, but i can be a friend.
thanks........"
Well maybe some lonely reader here looking for a friend will sponsor her, no picture, could be anyone, even X Man. SHE HASN'T LEARNT YET THE POWER OF PUSSY! I do think she would make heaps if she did include the sexy chats.
C00407808
There used to be a time when a see through dress would turn me on I guess those days are long gone.
C00818006
Now X Man, this one is my girlfriend, she has said she would make love to me and be my girlfriend if we meet up so she is a sure thing? Maybe? My problem is I think she is chatting to other men even though she has shown me a blank screen twice without me asking. She sure is busy with those emails!
Now one of my worries is she is about as passionate and interesting to talk to as a blank screen so I'm concerned if the sex is going to be the same so I'm wondering is it me do I lack personality or is it the girl?
Anyone interested in chatting with her to find out if she is my one true love? Her interests seem to be shopping for clothes she perks up if you mention shopping. Another thing is she is always in a private room and for a girl struggling to survive with few clothes it does seem extravagent. Its a puzzle for me.
I just joined DIA no luck yet maybe I need a better photo.
[QUOTE=Bilbo Baggins]C00986741
C00407808
There used to be a time when a see through dress would turn me on I guess those days are long gone.
C00818006
Now X Man, this one is my girlfriend, she has said she would make love to me and be my girlfriend if we meet up so she is a sure thing? Maybe? My problem is I think she is chatting to other men even though she has shown me a blank screen twice without me asking. She sure is busy with those emails!
I just joined DIA no luck yet maybe I need a better photo.[/QUOTE]
BB
The Advanced Search on CB has changed, now I cannot seem to be able to type in the lady's CB number. Anyone else have this issue, maybe just me
DIA? Like any site, tell them you are in town next weeek...you will inundated :D
[QUOTE=Wicked Roger]
The Advanced Search on CB has changed, now I cannot seem to be able to type in the lady's CB number. Anyone else have this issue, maybe just me
[/QUOTE]
Hi Rog, CB Search is all fukd up at the mo. I put in my usual Advanced Search, you know, using the 50:50 criteria etc.
It came up with 8 blokes, and not one of them a possible ladyboy either ;)
Possibilty of searching by CB ID has disappeared, only hope it is sorted before my next planned trip :)
meanwhile, back in Kaz.....
Cheers, F/Fifty
I had a similar problem at CB about a year or two ago when they changed their page. When I checked my email, there were lots of unknown people there - mostly guys. I was tempted to email the guys so that we could complain together, ask for a contract extension, but somehow never bothered. It was interesting to see what the competition looked like - which is rather hard to do at CB usually.
I really want to switch out of CB, but there are so many hot ladies who seem to FINALLY reply to my email after my subscription ends. This may be a strategy of CB.
I'm one of those guys who can't throw anyting away...including 2mU messages from years ago when it was free.
X
[QUOTE=Fifty Fifty]Hi Rog, CB Search is all fukd up at the mo. I put in my usual Advanced Search, you know, using the 50:50 criteria etc.
It came up with 8 blokes, and not one of them a possible ladyboy either ;)
Possibilty of searching by CB ID has disappeared, only hope it is sorted before my next planned trip :)
meanwhile, back in Kaz.....
Cheers, F/Fifty[/QUOTE]
It also appears that the "advanced" search doesn't allow you to search for women in a particular city. For instance, I'm going to Cebu, so I'm not really interested in women in Angeles or Baguio, for example.
The city search is also handy when you know you're going to a certain city, like Bacolod.
So far, I've been really pleased with DIA, both in the quality of women and the responsiveness.
[QUOTE=Fifty Fifty]
It came up with 8 blokes, and not one of them a possible ladyboy either ;)
Cheers, F/Fifty[/QUOTE]
But were they 50:50 :D
In preperation for my trip this month, I've been searching DIA and have come up with a bunch of good potentials.
Everything from I want a relationship, but if you get me a little drunk you never know what will happen. To here's my phone number call me when you get in town. To " of course I'll meet you, but I need help paying for school.."
I tried to restrict my contacts to the manila area so the choices range from a few a day to none. Most respond back pretty quick on the site. If the pictures match the girl, then I might do OK.
One of them works in a Webchat and keeps trying trying to get me to join her site so she gets a commission... I told her we can negotiate a commission later.
Has anybody been burned from DIA in that the picture aren't even close or the girls tried to rip you off?
So far at least the chase has been fun.
[QUOTE=Marty251]Has anybody been burned from DIA in that the picture aren't even close or the girls tried to rip you off? [/QUOTE]
Marty I haven't been burned on that site but the same caveats apply to that site as any other. You will get your share of repulsive ladyboys, annoying beggars, liars, fakes & scammers as anywhere else. Points in its favour, free, large & growing userbase of women keen to meet and simple easy to use layout.
AV
[QUOTE=Amavida]Marty I haven't been burned on that site but the same caveats apply to that site as any other. You will get your share of repulsive ladyboys, annoying beggars, liars, fakes & scammers as anywhere else. Points in its favour, free, large & growing userbase of women keen to meet and simple easy to use layout.
AV[/QUOTE]
Basically the rule is to cam with them, no cam no chat.
Agree with Amavida, there are loads of LBs there - in DIA some actually say they are so we can avoid. But when you cam and lok you will see that many not as good as the pics but I have had a few that are far better......Hit and miss my friend
Dia has more than its share of ladyboys for sure. Never send money to a girl (or god knows what) that you have never met and you needn't worry about getting ripped off. Manila area girls are more likely to be gamers than girls from the province, you can bank on that.
CB functionality is poor, but they do more screening to keep out scammers and ladyboys. The guy going to Cebu should check cebuanas.com.
Gamahucher: great post and so true. There was this one with enormous tits and a picture revealing them. I was very polite, but made a non crude compliment about her "ample assets" and she blocked me. Other than the tits, she was a middleaged pig with no apparent redeeming features.
I have found cb the best site to find a quality relationship. It has the best search options. You can narrow it down to education, kids, and exact age. Last trip I signed up for 3 months. I had 2 months to prepare for the trip, and while I was there I was able to copy and paste"hi, I am in town and like to meet you" to dozens of girls.
Do not limit your self to only girls that have logged into cb recently. Find one that has not logged in for over a month, it means she has not received any emails to read. CB will send her a an email asking her to log on to read your message to her. On the same note, make sure to log in frequently so you show up more often to the girls that are searching.
I have used DIA. The search function is basic, and there are a lot more scamers there, but you will see many girls that will chat with you on yahoo immediately.
I set up 2 accounts on DIA, my real one, and one without a picture to "test"the girls. I am very direct and bold on the fake one, to get a feel of the real intentions of the girls. Basically the fake one asks if they want to go to spend a weekend in Bohol with me, for free. So many girls were interested. Good to know there are some easy girls out there.
If you want to see the most scamers, ladyboys or just plain desperate, check out DIA "last active" on the front page when it it is 3am in the Phillipines.
FH is a good compromise between CB and DIA. A lot of girls that are willing to put out with little effort, but they do a decent job of screening them.
Thanks to all for the comments. You do have me a bit worried now about the potential for Ladyboys on DIA. I'll try the cam route. So far only 2 of them offered that. I'll push it from my side for the rest. If anybody had any luck on DIA and wish to share the names from there, let me know.
I'll let you all how it turns out.
I've only done Filipino Kisses. I've gotten two contacts that indicated they were LBs in the message or profile. Plus, I have one on hold until she can get on a webcam. She wants to do nasty chat, but no cam no chat.
-- SbySW
[QUOTE=Marty251]Thanks to all for the comments. You do have me a bit worried now about the potential for Ladyboys on DIA. I'll try the cam route. So far only 2 of them offered that. I'll push it from my side for the rest. If anybody had any luck on DIA and wish to share the names from there, let me know.
I'll let you all how it turns out.[/QUOTE]
Marty I really did'nt notice the LB's on DIA to be a major hassle. Of the several that contacted me all of them were 100% honest. They all stated 'Male' n their profiles & so I just put them on ignore which ended any further contact from them immediately. This was 2 or 3 compared to dozens & dozens of girls contacting me. I don't really care which site anyone uses but I thought that people should know that some of us have had great success with DIA.
As a side note i'd like to mention that out of interest I took a look at the profiles of guys on several of these web sites just to get a feel for what the competition was like. Oh my god so many guys had really lame pics of themselves! For god's sake guys post a decent pic! You know what? A pic from your web cam is all you need, wear a modern shirt, maybe some shades.. give a cheeky smile.
Keep your profile simple & to the point. Instead of rambling on with a lot of twaddle just say "I'd like a nice girl friend' or something like that. keep it simple & direct, tell them in your ad that you are coming there. Say when & where. You will be amazed...
Happy hunting
AV
[QUOTE=Amavida]Marty I really did'nt notice the LB's on DIA to be a major hassle. Of the several that contacted me all of them were 100% honest. They all stated 'Male' n their profiles & so I just put them on ignore which ended any further contact from them immediately. This was 2 or 3 compared to dozens & dozens of girls contacting me. I don't really care which site anyone uses but I thought that people should know that some of us have had great success with DIA.
As a side note i'd like to mention that out of interest I took a look at the profiles of guys on several of these web sites just to get a feel for what the competition was like. Oh my god so many guys had really lame pics of themselves! For god's sake guys post a decent pic! You know what? A pic from your web cam is all you need, wear a modern shirt, maybe some shades.. give a cheeky smile.
Keep your profile simple & to the point. Instead of rambling on with a lot of twaddle just say "I'd like a nice girl friend' or something like that. keep it simple & direct, tell them in your ad that you are coming there. Say when & where. You will be amazed...
Happy hunting
AV[/QUOTE]
You made all my secrets public... waaah, I've got to compete now! :)
[QUOTE=Amavida]Oh my god so many guys had really lame pics of themselves! For god's sake guys post a decent pic! You know what? A pic from your web cam is all you need, wear a modern shirt, maybe some shades.. give a cheeky smile.
Keep your profile simple & to the point. Instead of rambling on with a lot of twaddle just say "I'd like a nice girl friend' or something like that. keep it simple & direct, tell them in your ad that you are coming there. Say when & where. You will be amazed...
Happy hunting
AV[/QUOTE]
Don't tell everyone our secrets Amavida.
Also I tell them upfront in the profile that I am a horny bastard and very interested in carnal pleasures....and I still get 18 year olds saying hi...must be the way I write :D Or they think I have a huge wallet :D
I was just on DIA and was corresponding with an attractive young lady. In her last post she had mentioned "gaining weight," and now that I check her profile several days later, suddenly there is a different, chubbier girl in the picture.
I had this happen the last time I met a gal from the Internet in the Philippines. She started to make noises about not being the best looking or the skinniest, and sure enough, when we met, she was obviously using someone else's picture.
Any chick has got to know that her fake photo is going to crumble when you meet face to face, so I think you need to watch for signs of backing up and qualifying herself.
[QUOTE=Amavida]Marty I really did'nt notice the LB's on DIA to be a major hassle. Of the several that contacted me all of them were 100% honest. They all stated 'Male' n their profiles & so I just put them on ignore which ended any further contact from them immediately. This was 2 or 3 compared to dozens & dozens of girls contacting me. I don't really care which site anyone uses but I thought that people should know that some of us have had great success with DIA.
As a side note i'd like to mention that out of interest I took a look at the profiles of guys on several of these web sites just to get a feel for what the competition was like. Oh my god so many guys had really lame pics of themselves! For god's sake guys post a decent pic! You know what? A pic from your web cam is all you need, wear a modern shirt, maybe some shades.. give a cheeky smile.
Keep your profile simple & to the point. Instead of rambling on with a lot of twaddle just say "I'd like a nice girl friend' or something like that. keep it simple & direct, tell them in your ad that you are coming there. Say when & where. You will be amazed...
Happy hunting
AV[/QUOTE]Thanks for the advice. I have a "date" setup the night I get into town from DIA. She knows what she is getting into and definately no LB as she has a cam. Chats started off very romantic from her side but set her straight.
Lets hope it works out. If not the night is still young.
[QUOTE=Marty251]Thanks for the advice. I have a "date" setup the night I get into town from DIA. She knows what she is getting into and definately no LB as she has a cam. Chats started off very romantic from her side but set her straight.
Lets hope it works out. If not the night is still young.[/QUOTE]
Do not believe all you see !!
I had an occasion a while back where I was looking at a lovely, sexy girl on Cam and her mate was typing the text. I spotted something odd, but didn't say anything to her about it.
I too had a contingency plan, but fortunately, when I met my girl, it was the one I had seen on Cam. I asked what had been going on and she said it was because her friend has good English she was helping.
But you never know, it could have been worse.......;)
Cheers, F/Fifty
[QUOTE=Fifty Fifty]Do not believe all you see !!
I had an occasion a while back where I was looking at a lovely, sexy girl on Cam and her mate was typing the text. I spotted something odd, but didn't say anything to her about it.
I too had a contingency plan, but fortunately, when I met my girl, it was the one I had seen on Cam. I asked what had been going on and she said it was because her friend has good English she was helping.
But you never know, it could have been worse.......;)
Cheers, F/Fifty[/QUOTE]
Same for me FF
Rememebr the cam show....her typist was her LB cousin, easy for me to spot the difference when I met them and she showed me (and you:)) that she was all woman :D
Happens more than you think but cam angle is such you cant spot it many times, clever little vixens.....
Guys,
I need some advice. After reading this forum I listed on DIA and got quite a few girls that I worked up to where we have some cybersex. One wants me to but her a webcam for 500P. What do you think? Is it a scam.
Another is in a small town south of davao and wants to come up to manila when I am next there on business and fuck my brains out. Sounds good. But how should I pay for her ticket up there? She seems genuine but that is why I am asking you guys for advice.
[QUOTE=Lachlan1972]Guys,
I need some advice. After reading this forum I listed on DIA and got quite a few girls that I worked up to where we have some cybersex. One wants me to but her a webcam for 500P. What do you think? Is it a scam.
Another is in a small town south of davao and wants to come up to manila when I am next there on business and fuck my brains out. Sounds good. But how should I pay for her ticket up there? She seems genuine but that is why I am asking you guys for advice.[/QUOTE]
You should be looking much closer to Manila. That way a girl can come there from out of town on her peso (she'll take a jeepney or a bus) and you can reimburse her for the fare coming to Manila and getting back home. If she turns out to be less than ideal for whatever reason, at least you didn't spend airfare on her.
[QUOTE=Lachlan1972]Guys,
One wants me to but her a webcam for 500P. What do you think? Is it a scam.
QUOTE]
500 pesos is about $12. Not much of a scam so it's probably a genuine attempt to get to know you much better. If she looks good in the still photos you've seen, go for it.
Personally, I wouldn't pay No. 2 to come and visit me in Manila. If she looks that good that you're tempted to spend an airfare, rather get yourself down to Davao and see her on her home turf. That way if it doesn't work out you can give her her marching orders. And if it does work out, well.. have fun!
Duke
[QUOTE=Lachlan1972]One wants me to but her a webcam for 500P. What do you think? Is it a scam.[/QUOTE]
A decent web cam will cost you about 800php here. She's not scamming you.
AV
[QUOTE=Iron Duke][QUOTE=Lachlan1972]Guys,
One wants me to but her a webcam for 500P. What do you think? Is it a scam.
QUOTE]
500 pesos is about $12. Not much of a scam so it's probably a genuine attempt to get to know you much better. If she looks good in the still photos you've seen, go for it.
Personally, I wouldn't pay No. 2 to come and visit me in Manila. If she looks that good that you're tempted to spend an airfare, rather get yourself down to Davao and see her on her home turf. That way if it doesn't work out you can give her her marching orders. And if it does work out, well.. have fun!
Duke[/QUOTE]If you have done the talk, then I recommend that you fly her to Mla so that she is on your turf, decide where YOU want to eat, travel etc. You can send her back if things do not work out. You will have no distractions (her friends, relatives. All seeking a free feed etc). On her turf, it can be hazardous. Believe me I have had some xperience.
Rayble
Its only a scam if she doesn't buy the web cam.
AV promises. He'll reimburse you if you get scammed.
[QUOTE=Amavida]A decent web cam will cost you about 800php here. She's not scamming you.
AV[/QUOTE]
Most ladies can walk into a net cafe ...and for 10 - 30 pesos an hour chat with you on cam. I can't think of any reason to buy a cam, but if these guys recommending it have any reason to do so, hope they can provide some examples. (Steady gal, has pc at home, get naked once in a while???)
I, for one, will not call it a scam. She asked you for something and you have to decide whether to give it or not. As others have already explained, it's a small investment.
If you met her face to face and really like her, go for it.
I know I wouldn't.
X
[QUOTE=Iron Duke]
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500 pesos is about $12. Not much of a scam so it's probably a genuine attempt to get to know you much better. If she looks good in the still photos you've seen, go for it.
Personally, I wouldn't pay No. 2 to come and visit me in Manila. If she looks that good that you're tempted to spend an airfare, rather get yourself down to Davao and see her on her home turf. That way if it doesn't work out you can give her her marching orders. And if it does work out, well.. have fun!
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[quote=bilbo baggins]its only a scam if she doesn't buy the web cam.[/quote]
agreed, but $12 is hardly a big time scam, unless of course she has hundreds of guys all sending her the webcam money?
imho the scammers always go for around the 2-3000 pesos in the beginning, often for school or sick relatives etc etc. then they up the stakes to around 5000 if you are gullible enough :(
rleatively speeaking, the 500 pesos she has asked for, is less than a lady drink in joules on burgos - now that bar is a scam !!
cheers, f/fifty
50 is absolutley right on some of his points, but joules is a bar and the prices are well known, so it is an expensive bar, but not a scam. more and more, it seems that expensive = scam...but i'm not sure i'm willing to accept that interpretation at this point.
back to filipinas in chat... humans are intelligent and they will learn from you and the others they chat with...
if you are preceived as a desperate guy, they will ask for a ticket to manila. horn dog who want to see titties and they ask for a cam...especially the smart ones who know how to start low.
my advice: send the cam to av
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[quote=fifty fifty]agreed, but $12 is hardly a big time scam, unless of course she has hundreds of guys all sending her the webcam money?
imho the scammers always go for around the 2-3000 pesos in the beginning, often for school or sick relatives etc etc. then they up the stakes to around 5000 if you are gullible enough :(
rleatively speeaking, the 500 pesos she has asked for, is less than a lady drink in joules on burgos - now that bar is a scam !!
cheers, f/fifty[/quote]
So far out of 15 girls I have chatted with online dating,
1 . 5 of them have asked me outright what they have tp do in order for me to send them money.
2. 3 of them have said they are very poor and do not have any money to eat.
3. 1 has said her father and sister is sick.
4. Rest have not asked for anything yet.
I have asked all of them to come and stay with me . None have refused. Almost all of them have said they do not have bus fare. I told them under no circumstances I will send money. They seem to loose interest right away. The older the girl is more likely she will not ask for money.
Do not send money to these girls for any reason. If you meet them and like them you can make some arrangement to support her. But beware she may be getting support money from other people also. Phi girls have gotten smarter and they know older western people are looking to have fun with them. They know they can get money by preteding to like them. Ultimately she is looking for money , not long lasting relationship for life. What would 20 something girl get out of if she is married to a 50 something or older man?
[QUOTE=Sammon]So far out of 15 girls I have chatted with online dating,
1 5 of them have asked me outright what they have tp do in order for me to send them money.
2. 3 of them have said they are very poor and do not have any money to eat.
3. 1 has said her father and sister is sick.
4. Rest have not asked for anything yet.
[/QUOTE]Hi Sammon! Look, more often than not the stories are true BUT until you meet them you don't know as it is all too easy for a scammer to run the same line.
So don't send any money to girls you have never met.
You have to ask yourself do you want to start something with a girl who is in such dire straights to begin with?
Or more likely she has been burned by so many lying westerners who have turned up fucked her & fucked off, that she now comes straight to the point in her online dealings...
[QUOTE=Sammon]I have asked all of them to come and stay with me . None have refused. Almost all of them have said they do not have bus fare. I told them under no circumstances I will send money.[/QUOTE]I have paid fares for particularly fine specimens to visit me, and they have all turned up with a happy ending for me. This is has been a girl i have come to know over a period of time. But it is a risk you must be prepared to take.
[QUOTE=Sammon]Ultimately she is looking for money , not long lasting relationship for life. What would 20 something girl get out of if she is married to a 50 something or older man?[/QUOTE]She gets a supportive husband who provides for her & her extended family & in return she cooks, cleans & bears his babies.
Back in my home country I got to know hundreds of couples in the Filippino Australian community. The vast majority are happily married regardless of our preconceptions of age. Its a mistake to characterise all pinays as liars & cheats. I do agree that extra dose of common sense is needed the bigger the age gap.
I have to laugh at mongers worried about girls cheating on them.. guys you're in the business of cheating on THEM! If they make a little money putting out for more than one guy is that so bad?
I avoid FL's who spread themselves around but that's a health concern for me.
What is the point of your dating site hunting Sammon? You just want a new conquest? You want a nice long term girlfriend? You want a partner for life? If you are just looking for a new conquest, then by all means go meet them, shag all nine of them, & be on your way without bullshit promises... don't forget to give us a road test report after hehehehe ;)
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[QUOTE=Lachlan1972]Guys, I need some advice. ...Another is in a small town south of davao and wants to come up to manila when I am next there on business and fuck my brains out. Sounds good. But how should I pay for her ticket up there? She seems genuine but that is why I am asking you guys for advice.[/QUOTE]
Assuming the goods are as described.. Very likely she will come there & rock your world.
- You do realise she is husband hunting & will assume you're *IT*.
- You do realise that she will get pregnant to you & will be in NO position to support it??
* This message was brought to you by Reality Check Inc. (bringing people back to reality since 1973)
Cheers mate
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[QUOTE=X Man]Joules is a bar and the prices are well known, so it is an expensive bar, but not a scam. [/QUOTE]
Ok in terms of exact definition, (Dishonest method of making money) then Joules is not a true scam.
However IMHO Joules Bar is a total Rip-Off, which is by definition (something not worth what you pay for it)
At the end of the day we pay our money and take our chance(s) or if a true mongerer, vice versa.
I would agree with AV and generally never send money to a girl I havent met. However in this case I would ask her to borrow the 500 from someone to allow her to buy the cam with the promise that, if she does so, then I would send her the cash to pay back her debt and maybe a little extra for the show ;)
On the whole the Pinays are obliging in most ways and it goes back to the idea - Treat em well and they will look after you. After all you may be the only positive thing in her life at the moment...blah ...blah.....blah.
Get her on cam, go and see her, fuck her, do whatever........Lets face it what is there to lose ($12) who cares.
Next please.
Cheers F/Fifty
[QUOTE=Fifty Fifty]..in this case I would ask her to borrow the 500 from someone to allow her to buy the cam with the promise that, if she does so, then I would send her the cash to pay back her debt and maybe a little extra for the show ;)
Cheers F/Fifty[/QUOTE]
Bloody good suggestion FF!
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[QUOTE=Fifty Fifty]However IMHO Joules Bar is a total Rip-Off, which is by definition (something not worth what you pay for it)
Get her on cam, go and see her, fuck her, do whatever........Lets face it what is there to lose ($12) who cares.
Next please.
Cheers F/Fifty[/QUOTE]
Joules is expensive but there are at least 2 CB girls working there, and that is why I went :D Easy shag for the price of a beer :)
Thanks for the replies of experienced mongers here who have had good experiences of online dating in PHI.
Yes, I have dated normal girls in PHI but not from dating sites. These are the girls I met during the course of my stay there. Those experiences have been good by and large. I have supported a girl for 2 years through school and she was the best GF I had in PHI. Only when she wanted more in the relationship i dumped her.
No, I am not looking to get married and live in PHI. I have a business which takes me to lot of places. I have been honest with the girls I met.
Yes, I like to meet a girl I like and I can easily support her. Sometimes it gets boring with BG's.
So I am weary of the online girls asking for money right away before meeting me. I am not blaming them. I am sure they have been burned before and are being carefull. But it is a big turnoff when the girl asks for money. One girl even stripped for me without asking. She was a beautifull girl with nice assets but I blocked her after that.
No, I am being more pragmatic. It is ok with me if she is romping around without telling me. Unless you are married and live together how can anybody be sure?
Yes, it is easy to find PHI girls online.
No, Most of the girls will not meet you unless you send money first.
Not sure if the girl will show up.
I would like ask all of you guys whether after you send the money did the girl show up all the time?
I thought I'd ask the experienced guys here what's up with the online women who don't give a location.
Ex. "Sexy_Princess, Somewhere, Philippines," or "Philippines, Philippines." This screams scammer to me.
Anyone care to chime in?
[QUOTE=Sammon]Thanks for the replies..
...Most of the girls will not meet you unless you send money first.
Not sure if the girl will show up.
I would like ask all of you guys whether after you send the money did the girl show up all the time?[/QUOTE]
Hi Sammon, you're welcome :)
Absolutely not true that they will not show up without money first.
DO NOT EVER SEND SIGNIFICANT MONEY TO SOMEONE YOU HAVE NOT MET.
When i fish in the dating sites I avoid (stop responding to) girls who ask money in the opening conversations. I even get turned off by girls who hint at it too often. The girls i have chosen meet have been the ones who had the good grace not to ask money or appear desperate during online chat/email.
All have shown up.
All except two have been great GFE.
Once you start shagging them regularly they almost all start to expect support as you are very well aware. Fare enough deal i reckon. Like you I can afford to take care of regular GF's. Once you start giving them support they always be there for you unless a guy is an asshole to them, which im sure you're not.
Weed out the ones who are asking money up front. Find & shag the ones with a little class. I have some lovely GF's this way.
Good luck!
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I've gone to Joules twice and been greatly entertained - they had a show at that time. It was over six years ago, so maybe things have changed. I had a date both times I went. It seem that there were a lot of ladies available and interested....and one of the dancers chatted me up when my date was away in the toilet room. How much is the entrance fee these days?
I have no idea what the definition of "mongerer" is, but please don't include me. The word just sounds too much like "mongerel" to me. Sorry to have offended...(as 50 would expect me to do at the end of my posts). :-)
X
[QUOTE=Fifty Fifty]Ok in terms of exact definition, (Dishonest method of making money) then Joules is not a true scam.
However IMHO Joules Bar is a total Rip-Off, which is by definition (something not worth what you pay for it)
At the end of the day we pay our money and take our chance(s) or if a true mongerer, vice versa.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Sergeantray]I thought I'd ask the experienced guys here what's up with the online women who don't give a location.
Ex. "Sexy_Princess, Somewhere, Philippines," or "Philippines, Philippines." This screams scammer to me.
Anyone care to chime in?[/QUOTE]Hi Sergeantray & welome,
A great many of the girls have little or no knowledge of computers. Often they get some one else to 'fill up' their profile. No wonder its incomplete or formulaic. Second many girls have the nasty experience of time wasters, wankers & perv's. No wonder they are coy about their location.
Often they will put their province home as their location when they are in fact living & working in Cebu or Manila etc.
If your are wishing to chat with girls in a particular region that coincides with where you will be, you need to confirm their actual location at the start to make sure you are not wasting both your time.
Cheers
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[QUOTE=X Man]I've gone to Joules twice and been greatly entertained - they had a show at that time. It was over six years ago, so maybe things have changed. [/QUOTE]
Six years, things have changed - everywhere.
If your opinion of Joules Bar is based on your six year old personal opinion, then I fail to see how you can truthfully contest my six week old experiences??
Joules is very expensive, the show is the same ''Bikini Dancing Crap'' that can be seen in any Girly Bar, but fully clothed so maybe not so good as other places where the girls are more liberal.
[QUOTE=X Man]I had a date both times I went. It seem that there were a lot of ladies available and interested....and one of the dancers chatted me up when my date was away in the toilet room. How much is the entrance fee these days?[/QUOTE]
Barfines of Girls are not possible - so it was a good that you took a Date there cos if you have a Joules girl sit with you then the lady Drinks at 750 Pesos will soon break the bank.
There is no Entrance fee, to charge Entrance would be taking the [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] as there is nothing to see or do that cant be seen or done in any other bar.
[QUOTE=X Man]I have no idea what the definition of "mongerer" is, but please don't include me. The word just sounds too much like "mongerel" to me. [/QUOTE]
This link may be of interest - [url]http://japundit.com/archives/2006/06/02/2650/[/url]
[QUOTE=X Man]Sorry to have offended...(as 50 would expect me to do at the end of my posts). :-)[/QUOTE]
Oh no, apologies in advance again !! - Not accepted - sorry. :)
Cheers, F/Fifty
Babyg nice girl from Manila.
Very good blow job and fucking.
[QUOTE=X Man] I have no idea what the definition of "mongerer" is, but please don't include me. The word just sounds too much like "mongerel" to me. Sorry to have offended...(as 50 would expect me to do at the end of my posts). :-)
X[/QUOTE]Agree with X on this one, its a evil word, and although I use it, I much prefer the gentler British words 'to punt', 'Punter', 'Punting' in reference to p4p activities. One brings up images of gently drifting down the Thames, whereas the other is just plain nasty with its negative connotations (*****-m, war-m, fish-m!).
I chatted with this girl a few times and one weekend she has a cam and I get an invite to see her naked so if I send money she will do what I want for hours on cam. I got the distinct feeling she was new at this as she offered to show me now and I send the money later. She said she was going to trust me on this, okay?
She then took off her clothes and laid down on the bed the camera view was side ways and not good must have been a lot of guys complaining as she moved the cam around to give a better view but she put it too close sometimes and did other novice things that gave a bad show.
She didn't do the things I asked her to even though she said she would and often ignored my simple requests like stand in front of the cam naked, she kept her pants on. She went through a set routine even though she told me she was doing it only for me. At the end she asked if she could see how hard I was and I told her I wasn't because she didn't do the things I asked and I told her to get better equipment. I don't know how many other men got a free show and how many paid.
A week later I am online and available and she contacts me and I start chatting with her as if it never happened. So we get some progress in knowing each other and when I visit she wants me to meet her parents no mention of sex or naked cams or money just two souls seeing if they have a future together.
The next night I see her online and start chatting with her. She then asks if I want to see her naked and seems to be a different person or someone with a bad memory as she didn't appear to remember our conversation from the previous night. Another would be romance bites the dust!
I asked her how she was because the previous night she said she was feeling sick. She tells me she is worse and needs medicine I asked her if her relatives can help her and she says her auntie lives far. I asked if her parents could help and she said they were dead killed in a bus accident in 1993. I tell her I'm a little confused because she wanted me to meet them when I come there to visit her. She carries on in damage control and tries different ploys to get me to send money for show.
I said I can wait and meet her in person but she persisted she wanted me to see her naked and her pussy before we meet and she asked if I liked hairy or shaved pussies she could be what I wanted? (I wonder if there were more of them in the background.) She tried everything to get me to agree to see her naked and send 2000 then she tried the medicine thing she needed to do this to get money for medicine. I told her I didnt mind if she showed to other men but she pleaded its only me she want to show her pussy to. I declined and I havent seen her online since. I wonder if she really was sick?
[QUOTE=Bilbo Baggins]I wonder if she really was sick?[/QUOTE]Who knows.. I've known girls who were doing this stuff from a spare room in their house. They eek out a meager existence & endure all the challenges of life on a low income. I have nice memories of shagging a lovely girl from AC who did this stuff. While she charged guys to perv on cam she shagged me day & night for nothing but meals & drinks.
This girl in the pics has a lovely young body, shame you did'nt get to sample the real thing.
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[QUOTE=Amavida]Who knows.. I've known girls who were doing this stuff from a spare room in their house. They eek out a meager existence & endure all the challenges of life on a low income. I have nice memories of shagging a lovely girl from AC who did this stuff. While she charged guys to perv on cam she shagged me day & night for nothing but meals & drinks.
This girl in the pics has a lovely young body, shame you did'nt get to sample the real thing.
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Agree with you Amavida. Had a nice ACM girl (in fact more than 1 :)) who I have shagged cost me a meal out that the company picked up. And when I was chatting with her I saw her private shows to guys who were paying. She was OK as I am a nice guy ....as my friends will tell you ...nice but wicked and kinky LOL :D
Bilbo, IMHO, this is all a scam.
by coincidence, I am chatting as I type this, on YM with a friend, and about 1 hour ago, I get a window that pops up with....."hello, how r u"? I had no idea who it was. anyway, it turns out it was a phils girl who had tried to get me to do the same thing about 1 year ago. She had let me see her "show" for free a year ago, and as she was chatting with me today, trying to get me to pay up to see another, I remembered many strange things about the "show" I had seen last year.
The room looked like it was in Europe, there was a radiator on the wall behind the girl. It was a tape that ran about 20-25 seconds, then constantly played over and over again. it was on a loop.
Once I discovered this, I asked her to stand up, and of course, she couldn't, as it was not her, but a tape. I asked her to wave at me, and of course she couldn't. it was all quite funny, really.
Since this girl asked you if you like shaved or bushy pussies, I think she has several tapes she can run. I mean, if this girl were for real, and has a shaved bush, how is she going to produce pubic hair?
Also, the fact 1 day she is talking about 1 thing, and the next talking about something completely different leads me to believe it is not the same girl in front of the keyboard. As a matter of fact, is it really a girl, or a bunch of guys, with some footage of a girl playing with herself, trying to make a living, posing as horny girls?
I'd heard that as recently as two years ago Joules (and another place) had a fairly well-done choreographed show, and have not heard anything about any changes (except in the post I've quoted below). It's sad to hear the place has given up on that. 750 for a drink!
Okay, I retract my earlier statement. That sounds like a rip-off!
X
[QUOTE=Fifty Fifty]Six years, things have changed - everywhere.
If your opinion of Joules Bar is based on your six year old personal opinion, then I fail to see how you can truthfully contest my six week old experiences??
Joules is very expensive, the show is the same ''Bikini Dancing Crap'' that can be seen in any Girly Bar, but fully clothed so maybe not so good as other places where the girls are more liberal.
Barfines of Girls are not possible - so it was a good that you took a Date there cos if you have a Joules girl sit with you then the lady Drinks at 750 Pesos will soon break the bank.
There is no Entrance fee, to charge Entrance would be taking the [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] as there is nothing to see or do that cant be seen or done in any other bar.
This link may be of interest - [url]http://japundit.com/archives/2006/06/02/2650/[/url]
Oh no, apologies in advance again !! - Not accepted - sorry. :)
Cheers, F/Fifty[/QUOTE]
Hi guys,
Thanks for all the suggestions. Well I ended up sending her the money for the webcam via western union. She went and got the money within an hour and low and behold she was online with it about 3 hours later. She had a few issues configuring it which indicates she actually did buy 1. Good news is that she looks like her photos and has a very cute 18yo virgin sister who I also get to see on the webcam (started chatting there 2! ).
Since then I have had 2 late night shows on the webcam where she gets into the cybersex in a very shy and emabaressed kind of way. So overall I think I have a genuine one here. She only plugs the cam in at night when everyone is asleep.
In terms of the airfare I have also decided to buy it on my credit card. Cost bugger all and non refundable. That way she can't cash them in and I didn't send any cash. She was ok with that also
So again thanks for the feedback and will let you know how I go
PS I have also had a lot of girls on DIA wanting money alsmots straight away for sick aunt etc. I avoid these immediately.
[QUOTE=Gamahucher]Agree with X on this one, its a evil word, and although I use it, I much prefer the gentler British words 'to punt', 'Punter', 'Punting' in reference to p4p activities. One brings up images of gently drifting down the Thames, whereas the other is just plain nasty with its negative connotations (*****-m, war-m, fish-m!).[/QUOTE]
"Sticks and stones . . . will break my bones . . . but names will never hurt me." Still a lot of truth in that school-yard couplet, gentlemen. Monger is only a word, guys . . . and although it usually means "to sell" . . . "fish-monger" is someone who sells fish. "Wh*re-monger" is a pimp and so on . . . there are two other common meanings for monger:
First alternate definition is "to be involved in something often or frequently" - usually something disreputable or questionable, for example to be a gossip-monger, scandal-monger or war-monger. So while some of you may not like to call a spade a spade, get real guys: most polite society treats paying for pussy as disreputable (grin).
Two is to be a frequent user of something - sound familiar, gentlemen ? so another meaning for a "Wh*re-monger" is a frequent customer of working-girls, or in old-fashioned slang a "john".
Now THERE's an interesting word. One meaning of "john" is a common or average guy, sort of an everyman (as in "john doe"). Maybe they call pussy-mongers "johns" because the average guy likes to frequently use pussy (grin again).
But another meaning of "john" is latrine, or toilet . . . which is sorta offensive to fellows whose parents named them "john". One friend by that name used to retaliate . . . for many months . . . against people who he heard asking where the "john" was when they wanted to take a leak. He would reply "Ohhh . . . around here, we call it "the Bill" (or "the Bob", or "the Steve", etc.)" And then he would proceed to ask the poor fellow if he needed to use the Bill/Bob/Steve practically every time he would see him.
So if you don't like monger . . . don't use it. Pick a word like punter as Gamahucher suggests, or "john", or "pussy-chaser" or even "customer" (gasp!).
But don't take offense if someone calls you a monger. Don't assume that they are using the same definition as you. Maybe they simply mean that you frequently engage in the somewhat disreputable (but ever so wonderful) pastime of sport-fucking. That's what I think anyway . . .
OK, before any of YOU throw verbal sticks and stones at me for wasting time in what is supposed to be a thread on pen-pals, stay tuned - I actually signed on here today to post about my Philippines Adult FriendFinder experiences last week, not to play word-smith. So coming right up . . .
[QUOTE=Sammon]Thanks for the replies of experienced mongers here who have had good experiences of online dating in PHI.
Sometimes it gets boring with BG's.
But it is a big turnoff when the girl asks for money.
Yes, it is easy to find PHI girls online.
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I see some DateInAsia, Friendster and CherryBlossoms tips in the thread. So I assume this is the right place to post about Adult FriendFinder (AFF) as well.
I hadn't been to Manila in a couple of years but I used to make the usual rounds, mainly pulling (paid) poon from Glorietta Mall, Greenbelt, or - less frequently - going to dodgy massage places like Imperial and Topaz.
Over the past year or so, I have had stunning success pulling free poon through AFF in Indonesia, so when I knew I would be travelling to Manila on business last week, I started working the AFF Philippines postings. I am happy to report that there are plenty of horny women in metro-Manila willing to entertain travelling businessmen (yay!)
Sure, some are clearly professionals looking to trade pussy for peso's. But they're generally pretty transparent about that, and that still leaves lots of luscious, libidinous, little (and fair enough - sometimes NOT so little) libertines liking to lick and lip-lock and lavish labia on the likes of me. I'm talking educated, professional and sometimes even married women of all ages. And I'm talking first-date fucking . . . for free! Is Manila wonderful or what?
I only have the first visit (last week) so far as a data point, so maybe I got really lucky. But the experience was pretty much like I have found in Indonesia on many repeat visits previously, so I tend to think that AFF can be a winning strategy for those of you willing to invest the time, effort and energy to score freebies there.
First, some standard cautions. One, I have no experience with AFF in western markets like the US, UK, Australia, Canada and so on. And I understand that most men playing AFF in those places find it practically useless and a waste of their money. Two, I do have a paid membership which lets me read any female profile and send email to them. It might be possible to pull as a "free" or standard member, but I can't say - I haven't tried it that way. Three, there are all kinds of people on AFF, just like there are all kinds in the real world. But the difference is that on AFF, there seems to be a much higher percentage of nut-jobs and crazies . . . oh, and as far as Asia . . . a much higher percentage of chubbies (aka BBW's) . . . than I believe exists in the general population.
About me - I am in my late 40's and I look ok. Not a handsome guy, but average-looking face and a flat stomach and gym-body from regular trips to the weight-room. Ah, one more thing - I am married and honest about that in my AFF profile, so there aren't any misunderstandings with women looking for their soul-mate. No kidding, there are actually quite a few women on AFF looking for serious relationships. Some tell me to fcuk-off and curse me for cheating on my wife, but most (especially the married ones) tell me that it doesn't matter since they are also just looking for a "friend with benefits". What DOES seem to matter is that I was honest about my situation. Hmmmm . . . I call that win/win (grin).
Plan on investing time in writing emails - lots of them. Any of the hotter women get dozens of proposals every week (some get dozens every DAY), so unless you are a chubby-chaser . . . and I am NOT a fan of the larger ladies . . . then your hit-rate will be discouragingly low. Maybe one or two replies to ten or even twenty emails sent. Better response-rate if you are clever and careful about targeting your message to her profile . . . worse response-rate if what you write looks like a form-letter or spam.
Anyway, I worked the profiles for a couple of weeks before arriving on a week-night last week. I figured too much trouble to coordinate a date for the first night, so I paid for pussy - see my recent post in the Makati thread - on arrival. For the next few days though, I was pounding poon from AFF. It wasn't exactly "free", because I give my dates taxi-money, from prior experience in Indonesia. But the ones I saw last week didn't ask me for money - it was my initiative. And in one case, she angrily returned my money saying "I'm not a hooker". The other woman we were with . . . yes, gentle reader . . . I pulled a freebie three-some with two bi-babes . . . the other woman persuaded her that I meant no disrespect, and all was well in the end (grin again).
Out of time today. I do actually work for a living (smile), and I spent too much time on the preamble here. So stay tuned for at least one more post on the bi-babes of AFF-Philippines. What a great bleeping place you lucky bastards who live in the Phils' get to enjoy. I'm slightly jealous . . .
Just got this from a CB Girl and I thought I had to share it:
"hi im siple, black plexion,''
Seems like a nice girl though, I was thinking, but...... ??
Then I had a rethink, hang on, could I write the same information in Tagalog??
Answer = NO, not yet anyway.
Therefore IMHO the girl deserves credit for trying, just as they all do.
YMMV :)
Cheers , F/Fifty
This is a pic of my DIA date - met her at the airport at 10 pm had banged her by 11pm. Mmmmm
Instead of monger I like the term "hobbyiest".
Agree with 50/50 that Jools has gone to shit. In the 90s it was THE happening place with a great floor show and tons of friendly and cute girls. When I went back last year it was a sad joke playing old Billy Joel songs while lifeless and mediocore dancers shuffled from foot to foot for a VERY sparse audience.
[QUOTE=Morepoonhound]"Sticks and stones.[/QUOTE]Your right MPH, whats in a name. When it comes right down to it why not call ourselves sex tourists (although some of us live in the situ so that doesn't work), pussyhounds or just good old fashioned DOMs (dirty old men). That is what people outside our closed little world call us so why not be self aware and honest. But really who gives a flying fuck what others think as we are all mature adults (I hope) and are not hurting anyone (I really hope).
Really interested on your take on AFF. Good article. I'm a member also but haven't dipped my toe (or anything else) yet. Like you say their are lots of lardasses (not my type) and middle aged housewives (not sure I want to go there), but also some cute ones. Hope to give it a go soon and see where it leads.
Cheers,
GH
If a chat room girl claims pregnancy and has details to track down an individual what are there possible options as to any claims from the phils. Obviously dumbness aside about giving them the info to be able to track you down but given there is no verifiable way to determine she is pregnant. Can she go to the embassy and make trouble?
[QUOTE=Wicked Roger]BB
The Advanced Search on CB has changed, now I cannot seem to be able to type in the lady's CB number. Anyone else have this issue, maybe just me
DIA? Like any site, tell them you are in town next weeek...you will inundated :D[/QUOTE]I just updated my profile saying I will be arriving in Manila during the week of April 28th. I just want to see what kind of action I get in the next 11 days. Haha
DD
[QUOTE=Gamahucher]Your right MPH, whats in a name. When it comes right down to it why not call ourselves sex tourists (although some of us live in the situ so that doesn't work [/QUOTE]
Actually, I think guys living in the Philippines (or any other place for that matter), can pay or otherwise play the local poon and still call themselves sex tourists. That label DOES work.
Look at it this way: the home country (better spell it "****-tree") is the pussy of the home minister. You live there, gentlemen . . . even if you travel away from the home ****-tree from time to time. If you have no home minister, and even if you do, but you travel to foreign pussy locations from time to time, then I say you're practicing sex tourism (grin). Think about it - tourists visit places where they don't live permanently.
On the other hand, some like the new place so much that they move there on a more-or-less full-time basis. Hmmm . . .
[QUOTE=Gamahucher]Really interested on your take on AFF. Good article. I'm a member also but haven't dipped my toe (or anything else) yet. Like you say their are lots of lardasses (not my type) and middle aged housewives (not sure I want to go there), but also some cute ones. Hope to give it a go soon and see where it leads. [/QUOTE]
I still have some more to say about AFF Philippines. I have already said a few things about AFF Indonesia, and so far it looks to me like the scenes are pretty much similar. I will try not to repeat myself, so if you're keen on the subject, do a search on AFF in the Indonesia thread, and you'll find a dozen or so posts from me as well as more experienced tourists like Dorman, Mandiri and a few others.
Stay tuned to this thread for more on AFF in the National Capital Region (NCR). Too busy today to write a long story, but I have at least one more of those to post from last week's AFF harvest in Makati. I got stood up twice by prospective partners who had committed dates with me and confirmed via SMS; hit on by several professionals who made sure I understood they wanted cash for gash (no thanks - I don't use AFF for that, even though I happily pay for poon from other venues); and strung along a few times more by several other game-players . . . which is par for the course. This is court-ship, guys - not pay-for-play - and the ladies offering free poon have TONS of options. So roll with the punches and have a plan-B. Paid-poon is always available if you strike out on the night.
The good news is that the pay-off for my up-front investment of a couple weeks working the emails (hard) was 4 separate freebie dates last week, including both a 22-year old "9" (truly remarkable - maybe my hottest-looking freebie ever) and a 3-some with two also very fine, late-20's, bi-gals who taught me some things I didn't already know about eating pussy, by showing me (on each other), and coaching me while I ate at the Y myself. Wonderful!
Best introduction to the ladies of AFF NCR that I could even imagine. I don't know how I will ever top that first exposure . . . but I sure plan to try when I head back again next month. Definitely!
If you don't want to read my bragging, because I warn you first that I will be mostly doing that, then skip past that next post. Sorry . . . sometimes, ya just gotta tell someone . . . and fer shur it aint gonna be my home-minister. (full smile)
[QUOTE=Skoalbro]I just updated my profile saying I will be arriving in Manila during the week of April 28th. I just want to see what kind of action I get in the next 11 days. Haha
DD[/QUOTE]
G'day Skoalbro, don't know about CB but when I do this on DIA I get inundated with cp #'s. YMMV but don't be surprised if you do. An embarrassment of riches means you will need to be very focused or end up chasing your tail.
AV
[QUOTE=Amavida]G'day Skoalbro, don't know about CB but when I do this on DIA I get inundated with cp #'s. YMMV but don't be surprised if you do. An embarrassment of riches means you will need to be very focused or end up chasing your tail.
AV[/QUOTE]Well I made that "small adjustment" to my CB profile. Presto. Bombarded with emails on CB with quite a few adding cellphone numbers.
Of course the pickings range from young, mid age all the way to grannies, but enough to wade through and save for possible future reference. This will be my 4th trip to the Phils and I'm looking forward again to getting there on the 29th.
One side question for you experts:
I have previously stayed up in the Makati area but I'm staying at the City Gardens in Malate. How close is that to LA Cafe? I haven't been there yet and I had most of my fun up in the Burgos area.
But after reading the Makati threads, seems have seemed to change quite a bit, even from last year.
I've been reading the forum for quite a while now and hopefully I'll be able to chip in with a report or two on my trip.
DD
[QUOTE=Skoalbro]Well I made that "small adjustment" to my CB profile. Presto. Bombarded with emails on CB with quite a few adding cellphone numbers.[/QUOTE]Told Ya! ;) [QUOTE=Skoalbro]I'm staying at the City Gardens in Malate. How close is that to LA Cafe?[/QUOTE]Two blocks on the corner of Del Pilar.(Im not an expert, just helping out)[QUOTE=Skoalbro]after reading the Makati threads, seems have seemed to change quite a bit, even from last year[/QUOTE]Oh really? in what way? AFAIK its still expensive empty bars.
AV
[QUOTE=Adidas32]If a chat room girl claims pregnancy and has details to track down an individual what are there possible options as to any claims from the phils. Obviously dumbness aside about giving them the info to be able to track you down but given there is no verifiable way to determine she is pregnant. Can she go to the embassy and make trouble?[/QUOTE]Hello Adidas, does chat room have any significance to this question?
Lets talk theory first :
DNA testing is available in PI. I cant personally vouch for the accuracy but if its like the private health system here in PI, its as good as most western countries. If a guy have the resources he can certainly dispute the test findings. Some past posters here have cast aspersions on the PI DNA results. Its possible they can be 'bought' but I'm in no better position to say than anyone else since I don't have personal knowledge. there are labs here that claim to comply to International standards.
There are legal avenues a woman can pursue.
Now lets talk reality :
Unless the girl comes from a prosperous family she will not have the resources to pursue a guy further than making a complaint.
If there is any possibility that a man responsible (ie he fucked her) then the right thing to do is check if its his & if so, get her an abortion or stand by the girl for her child raising costs. This country has a shameful number of young poor girls in no position to support fatherless children many of whom are born to foreigners.
How much will it cost?
Paternity testing could be about P20,000
Abortion will cost about P25,000 all in all i.e. illegal abortifiicient pills, OBGYN doctor visits & operation to remove the 'incomplete abortion'.
Child care costs Im guessing maybe P20,000/month for the next 18 years.
Hope this helps
AV
Hi,
I'm looking for friends and relationship. I am 23yro 5'3ht and pilipinachinese beauty. From Mandaluyong City Manila Phil.
Thanks
[QUOTE=Cybergirl]Hi, I'm looking for friends and relationship. I am 23yro 5'3ht and pilipinachinese beauty. From Mandaluyong City Manila Phil.
Thanks[/QUOTE]Hello Cybergirl. PM me please.
AV
[QUOTE=Cybergirl]Hi,
I'm looking for friends and relationship. I am 23yro 5'3ht and pilipinachinese beauty. From Mandaluyong City Manila Phil.
Thanks[/QUOTE]Oh boy!
Cybergirl, do you have any idea where you are?
LOL
Anyone who interested just leave private message.
[QUOTE=Cybergirl]Anyone who interested just leave private message.[/QUOTE]Hi Rose, your PM is not active. Give my regards to Dette!
AV
while I was in Phil in Feb and March I met a guy from Finland while I was in Cagayan de Oro. We were at a bar and started talking. We also chat now on yahoo as we have become friends. He told me about his experience with a filipina he met on a chat site. Here is the link and while some might say he took too long to realize what a ride this girl was taking him for lets remember it was his first experience and as they say " love is blind " Anyway its a good story sad but true.
[url]http://nikosta.suntuubi.com[/url]
[QUOTE=Nightrider1]while I was in Phil in Feb and March I met a guy from Finland while I was in Cagayan de Oro. We were at a bar and started talking. We also chat now on yahoo as we have become friends. He told me about his experience with a filipina he met on a chat site. Here is the link and while some might say he took too long to realize what a ride this girl was taking him for lets remember it was his first experience and as they say " love is blind " Anyway its a good story sad but true.
[url]http://nikosta.suntuubi.com[/url][/QUOTE]Interesting read mate. Can't help but be moved reading it. I have a lot of empathy for BOTH people involved. Its a human tragedy. His side of the story paints a bad picture of the girl but i notice some things that make me question his innocence in all this.
He goes there & roots her as soon as he meets her & then falls in love, okay.. His time line takes us up to December 2007 but by February 2008 he is back in a bar in CDO (not exactly a major international destination) crying into his beer about this.. hmmm do I smell monger here? None of us mongers have a right to get all righteous about a girl using the dynamite fishing approach to 'catching a fish' as the girls call it.
Maybe he's just a nice guy who got screwed over but i think there is a wee bit more to his story than he is telling us.
AV
[QUOTE=Nightrider1]while I was in Phil in Feb and March I met a guy from Finland while I was in Cagayan de Oro. We were at a bar and started talking. We also chat now on yahoo as we have become friends. He told me about his experience with a filipina he met on a chat site. Here is the link and while some might say he took too long to realize what a ride this girl was taking him for lets remember it was his first experience and as they say " love is blind " Anyway its a good story sad but true.
[url]http://nikosta.suntuubi.com[/url][/QUOTE]
That guy was a real glutton for punishment. He kept going back for more and spending money long after it became obvious that the girl was taking him for a fool. When a man ignores the facts he has no one to blame but himself. How much evidence did he need to get away from all the drama? It never pays to get involved with these girls personal issues. It's very bad for your sanity. Stick to the 3F system and you'll always be ahead of the game.
[QUOTE=Nightrider1]while I was in Phil in Feb and March I met a guy from Finland while I was in Cagayan de Oro. We were at a bar and started talking. We also chat now on yahoo as we have become friends. He told me about his experience with a filipina he met on a chat site. Here is the link and while some might say he took too long to realize what a ride this girl was taking him for lets remember it was his first experience and as they say " love is blind " Anyway its a good story sad but true.
[url]http://nikosta.suntuubi.com[/url][/QUOTE]
cherryboy :D
Blink
Succcinct!
[QUOTE=Blink157]cherryboy :D
Blink[/QUOTE]
I met this guy "Bill" from the US in the Starbucks across from the US Embassy in Manila a saturday abt 1800hrs a few weeks ago.
He was sitting outside, as non-smoking inside. We chatted and he told me that he met a girl online (dont remember what site), and he had a room at BayView close by. The girl and her brother and sister met him at the airport, and they stayed in his room he first two-three days. No time for privacy, as he said. Then they went to visit her family in Mindanao, and he paid for her, the brother and the sister. And they all stayed in his hotel room. They met the family, and he was to apply for a Fiance visa. Filled in the forms, but still no privacy for the "lovebirds". They also had an argument about that when in Mindanao.
When returning to Manila, all three still stayed in his hotelroom, but he told the brother and siste that they should leave, so they could have some privace and get to know each other. They left, but the girl then went total Tampo on him, not talking with him at all. They had another argument and she left the same saturday as I met him.
He decided not to see her again, and was to find another hotel, so she could not track him down during his last two days in Manila.
I asked him if he ever got laid at all, while here in Paradise, but no, he had not.
So - being the friendly guy I am, I told him that if he had 10 minutes, we could take a short walk up to a nice place I knew of, with about 100 ladies that would love to be with him, although for a short time, he brightened up :) .
I took him to LA Cafe, and within a minute he started to chat with one of the most ugly ladies in there. I told him to hold on his horses, you have just entered the bar, and there are so many beauties to see here and choose from. OK, he said, so we went to have a Pale Pilsen along the bar, and a lot of ladies hit on him, as they could see him staring as he was in a candy shop for the first time of his life.
I told him that you should not go above php1500, and you should ask for 2 pops in at least three hours. yes yes yes, he said while drooling.
- What happened? He ended up with the ugly lady he bumped in to when entering, and left with her, agreed in advance to pay php2500 for one time only. But buying me a beer for showing him paradise? No.
I posted it here since it originally was about pen pals.
I have met several people like what Marconista describes.
I wonder, If i continue to report on ISG, am I encouraging some guys to find their inner man...
...or am I leading lambs to the slaughter?
X
love is blind
[QUOTE=Marconista]I met this guy "Bill" from the US in the Starbucks across from the US Embassy in Manila a saturday abt 1800hrs a few weeks ago.
He was sitting outside, as non-smoking inside. We chatted and he told me that he met a girl online (dont remember what site), and he had a room at BayView close by. The girl and her brother and sister met him at the airport, and they stayed in his room he first two-three days. No time for privacy, as he said. Then they went to visit her family in Mindanao, and he paid for her, the brother and the sister. And they all stayed in his hotel room. They met the family, and he was to apply for a Fiance visa. Filled in the forms, but still no privacy for the "lovebirds". They also had an argument about that when in Mindanao.
When returning to Manila, all three still stayed in his hotelroom, but he told the brother and siste that they should leave, so they could have some privace and get to know each other. They left, but the girl then went total Tampo on him, not talking with him at all. They had another argument and she left the same saturday as I met him.
He decided not to see her again, and was to find another hotel, so she could not track him down during his last two days in Manila.
I asked him if he ever got laid at all, while here in Paradise, but no, he had not.
So - being the friendly guy I am, I told him that if he had 10 minutes, we could take a short walk up to a nice place I knew of, with about 100 ladies that would love to be with him, although for a short time, he brightened up :) .
I took him to LA Cafe, and within a minute he started to chat with one of the most ugly ladies in there. I told him to hold on his horses, you have just entered the bar, and there are so many beauties to see here and choose from. OK, he said, so we went to have a Pale Pilsen along the bar, and a lot of ladies hit on him, as they could see him staring as he was in a candy shop for the first time of his life.
I told him that you should not go above php1500, and you should ask for 2 pops in at least three hours. yes yes yes, he said while drooling.
- What happened? He ended up with the ugly lady he bumped in to when entering, and left with her, agreed in advance to pay php2500 for one time only. But buying me a beer for showing him paradise? No.
I posted it here since it originally was about pen pals.[/QUOTE]
After learning here on ISG I used DiA before going to Manila last time. I was to stay for some weeks, so I thought it would be fun to try.
When becoming member a lady hit on me right away, telling me not to ignore here even though she did not have a pic in here profile. We chatted and I saw her online, she sent me tons of photo's.
In my profile I say that I am married outside of phils, and that i am lonely when in Manila and i like to cuddle... hmm...
When I arrived I got myself a globe-sim card, and she came to my hotel on the agreed day and even before the agreed time. She had to travel with jeepney for 2 hours to see me.
She was naked with me within the hour and we had a good time. After the deed I took her to the new Aqua Park and then for lunch at Robinson Mall in Ermita, and back to my hotel for another thrust. I walked her to the Jeepney at about 8pm. I gave her some money for transport, but she got mad about it at first, but accepted finally. Only about php1300 to cover her expenses. It was to much of cause, covering the transport, but I feel less guilty when paying a little.
I also met another lady from DiA.. Same thing...
BUT... One was 27 the other 30, but sooo unexperienced. Almost starfish in behaviour. Not much fun. The 30 yo said afterward that she was not good in bed. I told her that all she needs is more practise, and that I will be back for more, and then we could practise also. And she was sooo happy that I would be her coach, since she had a few other guys coming to Manila soon :D
As I was busy with work I lined up only two ladies from Dia and both came to meet me. But I have a FuBu there and I pick up a few at EDSA complex, so I left Manila happy as always.
BTW; One of the ladies I met told me of a "new" date site.
[url]www.innocentangel.org[/url]
I checked it out, and it is free of charge if you include a picture.
[QUOTE=Marconista]I met this guy "Bill" from the US in the Starbucks across from the US Embassy in Manila a saturday abt 1800hrs a few weeks ago.
He was sitting outside, as non-smoking inside. We chatted and he told me that he met a girl online (dont remember what site), and he had a room at BayView close by. The girl and her brother and sister met him at the airport, and they stayed in his room he first two-three days. No time for privacy, as he said. Then they went to visit her family in Mindanao, and he paid for her, the brother and the sister. And they all stayed in his hotel room. They met the family, and he was to apply for a Fiance visa. Filled in the forms, but still no privacy for the "lovebirds". They also had an argument about that when in Mindanao.
When returning to Manila, all three still stayed in his hotelroom, but he told the brother and siste that they should leave, so they could have some privace and get to know each other. They left, but the girl then went total Tampo on him, not talking with him at all. They had another argument and she left the same saturday as I met him.
He decided not to see her again, and was to find another hotel, so she could not track him down during his last two days in Manila.
I asked him if he ever got laid at all, while here in Paradise, but no, he had not.
So - being the friendly guy I am, I told him that if he had 10 minutes, we could take a short walk up to a nice place I knew of, with about 100 ladies that would love to be with him, although for a short time, he brightened up :) .
I took him to LA Cafe, and within a minute he started to chat with one of the most ugly ladies in there. I told him to hold on his horses, you have just entered the bar, and there are so many beauties to see here and choose from. OK, he said, so we went to have a Pale Pilsen along the bar, and a lot of ladies hit on him, as they could see him staring as he was in a candy shop for the first time of his life.
I told him that you should not go above php1500, and you should ask for 2 pops in at least three hours. yes yes yes, he said while drooling.
- What happened? He ended up with the ugly lady he bumped in to when entering, and left with her, agreed in advance to pay php2500 for one time only. But buying me a beer for showing him paradise? No.
I posted it here since it originally was about pen pals.[/QUOTE]
hmm....yeah I allways wonder who barfine the ugly ones, now I know :D
thanks bill, come to ac, plenty of dogs here also
Happy mongering
Blink
Hello again,
Im back in PI since 2 months and just thinkin about my so called chatgurls contacts and how many of them I meet up during this time..answer is ZERO :D
Whenever they wanted to meet me up with friends etc etc I nicely declined their offer saying things like....baby your late , you think a hunsome guy like me is still alone if he is Angeles city this time, please txt me earlier when you wanted to meet up and come alone I m not interested to meet your friends and family :D
Useless to say I dont get much txt these days from those chatgurls, but I have plenty of sex and good times with other gurls :D
Life is good LG
Blink
Like Blink, if I was in AC I wouldn't bother with online gals. But, I usually don't spend much time in AC, so....
Different people have different strategies, but I would recommend you go ahead and meet the friends and/or family. In most cases it is just a formality and once you are vetted, things could move very quickly - if you know what I mean.
X
[QUOTE=Blink157]Hello again,
Im back in PI since 2 months and just thinkin about my so called chatgurls contacts and how many of them I meet up during this time..answer is ZERO :D
Whenever they wanted to meet me up with friends etc etc I nicely declined their offer saying things like....baby your late , you think a hunsome guy like me is still alone if he is Angeles city this time, please txt me earlier when you wanted to meet up and come alone I m not interested to meet your friends and family :D
Useless to say I dont get much txt these days from those chatgurls, but I have plenty of sex and good times with other gurls :D
Life is good LG
Blink[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Blink157]Hello again,
Im back in PI since 2 months and just thinkin about my so called chatgurls contacts and how many of them I meet up during this time..answer is ZERO :D....[/QUOTE]
Fully agree Blink, my basic idea too,if they cant come alone then they shouldnt bother. The only exception is of course if they offer to come as a double act, Im always keen on the BOGOF way of doing business too.
Cheers, F/Fifty
But have you ever bothered to meet friends and/or family? What was the result?
X
[QUOTE=Fifty Fifty]Fully agree Blink, my basic idea too,if they cant come alone then they shouldnt bother. The only exception is of course if they offer to come as a double act, Im always keen on the BOGOF way of doing business too.
Cheers, F/Fifty[/QUOTE]
I guess she wants to eat someone... 821300
"""Soon I can cook my husband if I find him already. """
I registered on DIA 2 days back.
In the first few hours, I got several messages from women in the PI and Thailand. Last night, I got a message from a girl saying that she knows me and has seen me before.
I asked her where, and she said "bar 69 soi 6 in Pattaya"
She said that all the girls called me "potato" everytime they saw me because I happen to look like a Thai superstar, who happens to be in the band named "potato". All the way from Soi 6 to DateInAsia.
Small world eh!
Also, got a message from a girl. Pretty damn hot. Blond hair. 23 year old. I asked her to send me another picture, and she sent me a picture of her pussy. Then a little while later, she sends me a nice message, and ends it off with "currently I'm a call ceneter agent now. Hope you can buy one stuff toy for me so that I can hug it everytime I feel frustration, depression and stress. I'm on a graveyard shift. Take care hun ok
Will still see each other"
Is she a scammer? I am absolutely new to all this so can't figure anything out. Some really hot girls asked me out on CB, but I don't have a membership there. Is it worth joining it?
The picture she sent me is attacted to this report.
[QUOTE=X Man]But have you ever bothered to meet friends and/or family? What was the result?
X[/QUOTE]
Yes I admit to meeting the odd girl who asked to bring her friend along, so I took my mate too ;) That sorts em out soon enough.
Not had the priviledge of the often dreaded request to go and meet family (yet) but I know I will have to cross that bridge when I come to it.
IMHO it is each to his own and very ''situation dependant'' as far as I am concerned. Basically I am upfront and tell the girls the truth from day one.
ie.
No I dont believe in love at first sight (lust yes, love no)!
No I am not going to promise to marry you before we can fuck.
No I am not taking your Aunt, Sister, Cousin twice removed for a slap-up meal in a top hotel just because they want to ''meet'' my wallet too.
By getting to know each other I mean it in the biblical sense as well as the YM way :)
etc etc.
Cheers, F/Fifty
Well, ok I had to admit I met some gurl I met before with her sister, now I'm more intersted inher so I called her up to see me in my new home.
She cam with a cab, I told her I paid it, which I did. Damage 200 p.
Couldn't belive my eyes she showed up with her very ugly neighbour fren and her neighbur friends daughter 9 years or so. Her friend had only one shoe, she lost her other one. I was thinking to send them home imediatly. But well, I'm a nice guy, so I didn't.
We went to my condo, tv was turned on, the ugly witch asked if she could change the channel to tagalog soap story. If looks can kill.
The beauty sat next to me, I went to the fridge and gave evrybody a SM light, except the kid, she got some ice tea: D
I stzart cuddling with my fren until she told me that they are hungry. So off I went to order something. 2 chicken with rice and chicken wings. I think all in all 1000 pesos.
To make the story short, after they findished eating they wanted to went home and honestly having nightmares of a screaming kid in the morning and the face of the ugly witch I surely were happy to let them go.
As a gentleman I escorted them outside to look for a cab. Don't you have a car? The ugly witch asked me? For 2 secounds I was thinking to kill her and burry her body under a palmtree. It was night and I should get away with it. I didn't, as I, mentioned before, I'm a nice guy.
At this moment it started to rain, no taxi in sight. As a gentleman I escorted them further down the road to look for a cab. Now it was really raining. Cabs came along, but of course didn't saw us. The witch decide to use her jacket as an umbrella and went off to wave a cab. It was a groteske scene, she jump all the time waving with her jacket, yelling taxi. From far she look like a little kobold or poltergeist. None of the cab stopped and I couldn't blame them.
After a while, they told me I could go (swim) home, they be ok, they will just walk along the street and find a jeep or cab to take them home, so I gave them some cab money and left them. The pretty ones promised me to see me again alone. Well. Iwas wondering if she meant to see me this year or next year.
Next day I feel sick, the other day my terrible flue starts, couldn't enjoy AC on the weekend and contineued to be sick the next week until now.
Damage was 1500 p or so, plus 6 sm light, 2 for them, 4 for me: D
So, after this disaster, they could either come alone and if not they can talk to somebody else, not ME!
No more NICE GUY!
Happy hunting
Blink
Well Blink. It brought a smile to my face and I am sure it did for a few others. No doubt that was a crappy experience. But you know what. Its a great story to share with other Mongers while you have a beer at Kokomos or at Margarita Station in A. C. Thats when you will look back and laugh at it and say hey they finally got one over on me.
I agree Blink.. I have been to Phil 10 times now to meet chatmates and its soo interesting that when you chat with them they are SOOO interested in meeting you but when the time comes for a face to face them they are sooo shy and need to bring a couisin,sister,ante,parents of some other hangers on. But in chatting nothing is EVER mentioned about them having company when they meet you.. The ones who REALLY [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] me off are the ones you go to meet in person and they don't even ask or tell you they are bringing someone with them.. Well I used to be Mr Nice guy too and all the hangers on got a free lunch while I tried to talk to the girl even when all her family and friends were talking to her too. Well NO MORE.. When a girl shows up with someone else without even asking me i tell her with a smiling face " how nice you brought a friend without telling me or asking me. I hope you all have a nice lunch ,,BYE BYE " This is usually met with looks of suprise and sometimes apologies but I just say i have to go have a great lunch. After I leave there are lots of texts on my cell phone with apologies and pleas of lets meet again alone..TOO LATE. Too many fish in the sea to put up with these scammers girls who only want to treat their family and friends to a free lunch on me.
[quote=nightrider1]i agree blink.. i have been to phil 10 times now to meet chatmates and its soo interesting that when you chat with them they are sooo interested in meeting you but when the time comes for a face to face them they are sooo shy and need to bring a couisin,sister,ante,parents of some other hangers on. but in chatting nothing is ever mentioned about them having company when they meet you.. the ones who really [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] me off are the ones you go to meet in person and they don't even ask or tell you they are bringing someone with them.. well i used to be mr nice guy too and all the hangers on got a free lunch while i tried to talk to the girl even when all her family and friends were talking to her too. well no more.. when a girl shows up with someone else without even asking me i tell her with a smiling face " how nice you brought a friend without telling me or asking me. i hope you all have a nice lunch ,,bye bye " this is usually met with looks of suprise and sometimes apologies but i just say i have to go have a great lunch. after i leave there are lots of texts on my cell phone with apologies and pleas of lets meet again alone..too late. too many fish in the sea to put up with these scammers girls who only want to treat their family and friends to a free lunch on me.[/quote]
wow, this sounds cold to me. she has never met you in person and she doesn't know if you are a [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord126][CodeWord126][/url], serial killer or whatever. i have met 25 chat mates and i have never had a bad time. i may not have taken them all to bed, but i made friends and they are still in my messenger and sometimes we chat. i always show respect, even if they aren't what i am looking for, or they bring a friend. remember a lot of the ladies on these chat sites are not bargirls and are honestly looking for a boyfriend.
i think sometimes having a friend with them helps me. if i don't feel like getting involved with her, i can leave after lunch and not feel guilty leaving her alone. i always try to meet for lunch, so if it isn't going to work, i can say that i have to go and i will text later. as always ymmv.
stay safe,
robb
its not cold sir..its just that i object to being taken advantage of. if the girl asks if she can bring a friend then no problem with me. sometimes the friend is more fun than the chatmate. i resent it when she shows up with an antorage in tow looking for the foreighner to buy and never even asks my permission. i know life is hard in phil and i am always generous about taking my chatmates to the mall for jeans or a dress after lunch. as far as them not knowing if i am a [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord126][CodeWord126][/url] or serial killer my policy is to always meet for the first time at a mall. this is for my protection. i want to get to know them in a public enviorment before i spend any time alone with them just in case.
[quote=nightrider1]its not cold sir..its just that i object to being taken advantage of. if the girl asks if she can bring a friend then no problem with me. sometimes the friend is more fun than the chatmate. i resent it when she shows up with an antorage in tow looking for the foreighner to buy and never even asks my permission. i know life is hard in phil and i am always generous about taking my chatmates to the mall for jeans or a dress after lunch. as far as them not knowing if i am a [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord126][CodeWord126][/url] or serial killer my policy is to always meet for the first time at a mall. this is for my protection. i want to get to know them in a public enviorment before i spend any time alone with them just in case.[/quote]so true.
[QUOTE=Marconista]After learning here on ISG I used DiA before going to Manila last time. I was to stay for some weeks, so I thought it would be fun to try.
When becoming member a lady hit on me right away, telling me not to ignore here even though she did not have a pic in here profile. We chatted and I saw her online, she sent me tons of photo's.
In my profile I say that I am married outside of phils, and that i am lonely when in Manila and i like to cuddle. Hmm.
When I arrived I got myself a globe-sim card, and she came to my hotel on the agreed day and even before the agreed time. She had to travel with jeepney for 2 hours to see me.
She was naked with me within the hour and we had a good time. After the deed I took her to the new Aqua Park and then for lunch at Robinson Mall in Ermita, and back to my hotel for another thrust. I walked her to the Jeepney at about 8pm. I gave her some money for transport, but she got mad about it at first, but accepted finally. Only about php1300 to cover her expenses. It was to much of cause, covering the transport, but I feel less guilty when paying a little.
I also met another lady from DiA.. Same thing...
BUT... One was 27 the other 30, but sooo unexperienced. Almost starfish in behaviour. Not much fun. The 30 yo said afterward that she was not good in bed. I told her that all she needs is more practise, and that I will be back for more, and then we could practise also. And she was sooo happy that I would be her coach, since she had a few other guys coming to Manila soon :D
As I was busy with work I lined up only two ladies from Dia and both came to meet me. But I have a FuBu there and I pick up a few at EDSA complex, so I left Manila happy as always.[/QUOTE]DiA? I assume this is a web site, but which one?
Thanks
[QUOTE=Ronin63]DiA? I assume this is a web site, but which one?
Thanks[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.dateinasia.com[/url] although DIA, to me, always means Died In Action which is appropriate as it I imagine it is the old mongers preferred exit ;)
hi to all,
glad I made you laugh, but its a true story :D
Robbaf, you know I think I was like you before, but now that Im living on site, no more of this. From all the online ladies I met, they all pros, looking for a sugar daddy. If you have money ,they stay with you, if not, they gone in that moment your money is gone. I could tell endless storys of this. YOu not the only one they gona meet. Those "ladies" are all somehow involved in some red-light-district-p4p business, so if you really looking for a potantial wife or similar to that. Look somewhere else.
Exceptions are those gurls you met in person and in real and get to know them better and whats more important, get to know their family better.
How to meet them? Its easy. PI is full of them and as long you not looking for upperclas hi society gurl (but even that can work ) you will find yourself spoiled with so many offers of real working gurls.
My buddy here has together with his GF now for 8 years. He broought her tru university and now she has her own job and all her money went to her family. She wont ask my fren for any extras or so. Thats one of the reason Im dated her sis which is now one of my GF :D...a nice innocent student who loves me as the person I am.I was her first REAL boyfren...
Not sure if Im back next weekend in ac, cause I have a busy week. I will let my AC gf come over to see me, then my other GF will come on SAT, hope by this time my AC GF is back home. We have birthday party on sunday and my friends GF invite her office mates. We tell them only to bring gurls, if any guys come, I just put them in my room and they can watch basketball while Im vieing a victoria secret lingerie show with my buddy, cause thats one part of our party. specially those "normal" gurls like to drink Tequila.
Life is good! LG!
Happy hunting
Blink
i think a crucial part of meeting women is negotiating the chaperone or "cousin" she brings with her. filipinas are social and don't typically do things by themselves. and yes, she doesn't know if you're a perv or a [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord126][CodeWord126][/url].
i think it's important to be assertive early. one friend is appropriate, not a whole gaggle of chickens looking for a free meal. you can meet at jollibee's mid-afternoon and limit it to a soda and an ice cream or fries.
you have to watch it, as my friend has warned me, that sometimes women will try to order for the entire family and take it with them.
before anybody brings any accusations of being "cheap," my attitude is that if we're in a relationship, then money is not an object. until then, i'm not going to throw money at strangers and moochers. if your initial meeting goes well, you might suggest she take something home, and you can order something specifically for the family. this is certainly appropriate on a second date.
i remember seeing a foreign guy at the mercedes hotel. he was the only white guy in a mob of a couple dozen filipinos. the guy didn't look too happy, and you know he was being taken advantage of by a swarm of relatives coming out of the woodwork to get free food and beer. don't let that be you.
Well my last trip to PI got me in late as usual and before I left to go there I arranged for girl to meet me the next day at Mega Mall. She insisted on meeting me that night so I got in took shower and by now its 1AM I am tired from the flight. So I say what the. And call her and yup she on her way. So I lock up valuables and meet her downstairs in lobby. Within 20 min we are screwing like crazy and next morning she not want to leave and I just make excuse and said we meet later. Well later came and never meet and the hateful txt come. I am thinking gee you do the deeds 20 min after meeting me and now you want me for life. Sorry thanks for good time though.
great story by blink earlier. i never had anything quite so bad happen, but the cutest little package i ever met came with a beefy, butch looking "sister".
miss cute cuddled with me in the frigid movie theater while butch sat a few rows back. i though i going to get lucky that night. later, as the sun set, i tried to seperate the two of them, but butch insisted i accompany them home. something just didn't seem right and i paid their transportation costs, said my goodbyes, and that was the end of that. miss cute never agreed to meet me alone, but had the gall to ask for money online.
sometimes it works and sometimes it doesnt.
one good experience was a lady who had strict family and couldn't go out alone -- even in the day. so, she'd arrive with a friend (there were two different ones i met). several times the three of us would eat and then the friend would disappear and me and the girl would go to the hotel. i did take the third wheel with us to beach one day, but it was the least i could do for her since she was such a good chaperone! :-)
i have to second sergeant's post below about assertiveness. as for the meeting i go for the food court or a coffee shop. i don't like jollibees and in some malls there are two jollibees (sm cebu)-- which could cause confusion.
other advice is always reconfirm the meeting and also tell them what you are wearing and ask what they are wearing.
x
[quote=sergeantray]i think a crucial part of meeting women is negotiating the chaperone or "cousin" she brings with her. filipinas are social and don't typically do things by themselves. and yes, she doesn't know if you're a perv or a [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord126][CodeWord126][/url].
i think it's important to be assertive early. one friend is appropriate, not a whole gaggle of chickens looking for a free meal. you can meet at jollibee's mid-afternoon and limit it to a soda and an ice cream or fries.
you have to watch it, as my friend has warned me, that sometimes women will try to order for the entire family and take it with them.
before anybody brings any accusations of being "cheap," my attitude is that if we're in a relationship, then money is not an object. until then, i'm not going to throw money at strangers and moochers. if your initial meeting goes well, you might suggest she take something home, and you can order something specifically for the family. this is certainly appropriate on a second date.
i remember seeing a foreign guy at the mercedes hotel. he was the only white guy in a mob of a couple dozen filipinos. the guy didn't look too happy, and you know he was being taken advantage of by a swarm of relatives coming out of the woodwork to get free food and beer. don't let that be you.[/quote]
Beware of the DIA girls. They are not that innocent. They know the way of the world. Philippine economy being what it is these girls have found out it is easy to get money from foreigners by crying poverty, diserace, hungry, no job, no money etc. If you into donating it is ok. But the chances that the girl will meet you and screw you silly is not the norm. I am sure some will do in the sense that she can have a ready sponsor who will send money every month. What i have found is,
1. All the good looking women are cam models
2. Few of them are regular pros.
3. Ugly ones I have not tried. Got lucky couple of times with decent looking ones. But lot of hassle to get in their pants. In a country like PHI where you can go to the corner bar and pick a girl maybe it is too much of a hassle to get laid.
4. If a girl wants to meet you and want money for the ticket offer to send the ticket not the money.
5. If you are serious and settling down with a girl go to her place and check out.
6. Ignore all money requests saying you never send money online. If she goes to bed with youy make sure you pay , that way there will not be any strings attached. When they refuse money buy clothes and like so that atleast she and you feel better.
7. More of you send money more of the girls will come out of the woodwork looking for money.
Sammon's very negative post, despite being rather sad, should be read by newbies -- and shared with any friends who plan to chat/visit in the Philippines.
I knew a government accountant - a professional - who said some of her friends quit their regular jobs because the chat/cam/ marriage/ maybe scam business provided more opportunities. I don't know what jobs the friends had....but this has become big business.
Sammon might be wrong to overgeneralize about DIA girls. I haven't used this site, but some people recommend it. Just use with caution as you would with any stranger you meet on the Internet.
Don't send money to anyone you don't know well.
On the positive side, this is an indirect form of foreign aid. If you send money to some scammer overseas, you should claim it as a donation on your tax forms.
X
[QUOTE=Sammon]Beware of the DIA girls. They are not that innocent. They know the way of the world. Philippine economy being what it is these girls have found out it is easy to get money from foreigners by crying poverty, diserace, hungry, no job, no money etc. If you into donating it is ok. But the chances that the girl will meet you and screw you silly is not the norm. I am sure some will do in the sense that she can have a ready sponsor who will send money every month. What i have found is,
1. All the good looking women are cam models
2. Few of them are regular pros.
3. Ugly ones I have not tried. Got lucky couple of times with decent looking ones. But lot of hassle to get in their pants. In a country like PHI where you can go to the corner bar and pick a girl maybe it is too much of a hassle to get laid.
4. If a girl wants to meet you and want money for the ticket offer to send the ticket not the money.
5. If you are serious and settling down with a girl go to her place and check out.
6. Ignore all money requests saying you never send money online. If she goes to bed with youy make sure you pay , that way there will not be any strings attached. When they refuse money buy clothes and like so that atleast she and you feel better.
7. More of you send money more of the girls will come out of the woodwork looking for money.[/QUOTE]
i've noticed a lot of girls on dia (and perhaps other sites as well) are much younger than the 18 or so they list themselves as. not sure if this is just my experience or not... i'm planning my first trip to the phils sometime over the next few months and am a bit worried about hooking up with someone only to find out when we meet she's a young teenager. often hard to tell because they all look a lot younger than western girls the same age. same with the bar scene, i suppose...i would imagine there are still a lot of **** girls claiming to be 18+ in angeles, manila and elsewhere...
[quote=gaijin gigolo]i've noticed a lot of girls on dia (and perhaps other sites as well) are much younger than the 18 or so they list themselves as. not sure if this is just my experience or not... i'm planning my first trip to the phils sometime over the next few months and am a bit worried about hooking up with someone only to find out when we meet she's a young teenager. often hard to tell because they all look a lot younger than western girls the same age. same with the bar scene, i suppose...i would imagine there are still a lot of **** girls claiming to be 18+ in angeles, manila and elsewhere...[/quote]
i havae found same on dia but easy to spot as amavida said, they are not good at mental arithmetic. i aks get chatting and aks when their birthday is etc and soon enough you will spot some errors
try it and you will see
also many have fake ids and yopu have no chance of knowing of fake unless or until you are examining the goods so to speak :)
I have friend in ac that I have known for a long time and she pointed out a girl that was in the more "well known New bar" that was only 16 (cherry girl) I was like you serrious! She said that girl got her auntie birth certificate and records and claim to be her for I. D. And presto you have legal I. D. Her I. D. Says she is 20. Make you wonder how many others do this. Its more common than not I suppose for I have even heard girls getting a passport in theres Auntie or cousins name to work abroad or marry some foreign guy. The best advice is if you feel uncomfortable its better to move on to next whom you feel comfortable with. Better to be safe than sorry.
Could we please move back to more relevant issues to the "chat rooms and pen pals" section?
X
**** girls on dia is very relevant to the chat rooms and pen pals section. anyone else finding the same problem of **** girls online passing themselves off as dates?
[quote=x man]could we please move back to more relevant issues to the "chat rooms and pen pals" section?
x[/quote]
[quote=gaijin gigolo]**** girls on dia is very relevant to the chat rooms and pen pals section. anyone else finding the same problem of **** girls online passing themselves off as dates?[/quote]
x man it is relevant if a monger gets caught or scammed. the newbies need educating.
but this is the chat room section so a few links to the photo section of 2 chat girls i have been 'seeing' recently.
enjoy
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[QUOTE=Blink157]hi to all,
glad I made you laugh, but its a true story :D
Robbaf, you know I think I was like you before, but now that Im living on site, no more of this. From all the online ladies I met, they all pros, looking for a sugar daddy. If you have money ,they stay with you, if not, they gone in that moment your money is gone. I could tell endless storys of this. YOu not the only one they gona meet. Those "ladies" are all somehow involved in some red-light-district-p4p business, so if you really looking for a potantial wife or similar to that. Look somewhere else.
Exceptions are those gurls you met in person and in real and get to know them better and whats more important, get to know their family better.
How to meet them? Its easy. PI is full of them and as long you not looking for upperclas hi society gurl (but even that can work ) you will find yourself spoiled with so many offers of real working gurls.
My buddy here has together with his GF now for 8 years. He broought her tru university and now she has her own job and all her money went to her family. She wont ask my fren for any extras or so. Thats one of the reason Im dated her sis which is now one of my GF :D...a nice innocent student who loves me as the person I am.I was her first REAL boyfren...
Not sure if Im back next weekend in ac, cause I have a busy week. I will let my AC gf come over to see me, then my other GF will come on SAT, hope by this time my AC GF is back home. We have birthday party on sunday and my friends GF invite her office mates. We tell them only to bring gurls, if any guys come, I just put them in my room and they can watch basketball while Im vieing a victoria secret lingerie show with my buddy, cause thats one part of our party. specially those "normal" gurls like to drink Tequila.
Life is good! LG!
Happy hunting
Blink[/QUOTE]
I really enjoyed your story as well, but I think that the girl's behavior was very reasonable. After all when the girl showed up to escort her sister, you swapped one sister for the other. That takes some balls, but if the girl is smart she know whomever she brings could be her competition. So being smart, she showed up with the ugliest, poorest escort she could find AND the daughter, thus fulfilling the cultural tradition and covering her interest.
Also, when the 'auntie' switches the channel to a show you obviously can't watch, it could reflect a complete lack of manners or it could be she was giving you an excellent opportunity to take your young lovely into another room where you could talk and "get to know each other." ;) After all, if you can't watch the show, your date is hard-pressed to ask you to stay in that room.
IMHO, girls from the Philippines as well as other parts of Asia sometimes regard it as appropriate if not expected to bring a friend on a first date. I've seen it happen with well off Thai, and Indonesian girls who were here in the US studying as well. If you don't want it to happen talk about it in advance or go to someplace low key and in expensive. You may not have great luck getting a properly raises girl from the provinces to meet you at your hotel alone unless she has met a few other western men in their hotel room before and is comfortable with it. So it might be a good approach if you are looking to get laid, but not a priority for an ongoing or long term relationships.
I don't have any experience with DIA, but I've noticed that there is a big difference in the number of "gold diggers" on different sites. I am in my 40's and have found a lot of the teen and early 20's who approached me on FH were very money focused while the mid 20's and above were more interested in relationships. I suspect that if I was younger and better looking I would have more genuine interest among the youngsters.
First dates set a tone for relationships, so if I was interested in seeing a lady again as something other than a sugar daddy, I wouldn't take her to a mall buy them cloths or jewelry on the first date.
Regards
Robert
[QUOTE=X Man]Could we please move back to more relevant issues to the "chat rooms and pen pals" section?
X[/QUOTE]
The whole discussion thread would appear to be about younger age girls using Chat Rooms and Penpal sites such as DIA, CB etc and is IMHO very relevant. It is also a very big problem in Phils as more of the younger girls catch on to the ''money making methods'' available to them via Chat Rooms etc.
A lot use the money to fund further education and are often ''in between'' high school and college - a dangerous age as far as some Mongers are concerned.
[QUOTE=X Man]Great story by Blink earlier. I never had anything quite so bad happen, but the cutest little package I ever met came with a beefy, butch looking "sister".
Miss cute cuddled with me in the frigid movie theater while butch sat a few rows back. I though I going to get lucky that night. Later, as the sun set, I tried to seperate the two of them, but butch insisted I accompany them home. Something just didn't seem right and I paid their transportation costs, said my goodbyes, and that was the end of that. Miss cute never agreed to meet me alone, but had the gall to ask for money online.
Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesnt.
One good experience was a lady who had strict family and couldn't go out alone -- even in the day. So, she'd arrive with a friend (there were two different ones I met). Several times the three of us would eat and then the friend would disappear and me and the girl would go to the hotel. I did take the third wheel with us to beach one day, but it was the least I could do for her since she was such a GOOD chaperone! :-)
I have to second Sergeant's post below about assertiveness. As for the meeting I go for the Food Court or a coffee shop. I don't like Jollibees and in some malls there are TWO Jollibees (SM Cebu)-- which could cause confusion.
Other advice is always reconfirm the meeting and also tell them what you are wearing and ask what they are wearing.
X[/QUOTE]
Of course this post was entirely relevant too ;)
Cheers, F/Fifty
dcand 4 was referring to a girl in an ac bar. not relevant. x
[quote=gaijin gigolo]**** girls on dia is very relevant to the chat rooms and pen pals section. anyone else finding the same problem of **** girls online passing themselves off as dates?[/quote]
Perhaps next time you need to specify who you're talking about to avoid confusion. I wasn't referring to any previous post. My post is just as relevant as anything on here, perhaps even more so than most. But the first three of us who saw your comment thought you were talking about my posting.
[QUOTE=X Man]DCand 4 was referring to a girl in an AC bar. Not relevant. X[/QUOTE]
looks great in pictures (never met her), probably looks 18, has at least 10 ym accounts and at least 5 different friendster's in addition to dia, cb etc. has had foreigners sending her money without having met her. only problem is that she is 12. a guy who thought he was an "expert" recently got caught with her in his hotel (the mother called the police on him). when they searched his room, he had sex videos of several other **** girls (she us still a virgin).
under philippine law, being caught in a room alone with an **** girl is almost the same as being caught in the act. if he was smart, he would be offering every penny he can beg, borrow or steal to the pnp not to report him to the fbi. he already has paid over us$20, 000, and will be deported and permanently banned from the philippines regardless.
and ids are no surefire guarantee either. one can buy a birth certificate with whatever birthdate you want for under 100pisos in manila. taking girls from gogo bars provides a bit of protection from **** scams (unlike la cafe where they are freelancers, not employees), and most incidents are all about money rather than irate parents complaining. further, you are more vulnerable to theft by fls than gggs.
finally, while a few true non pros will come meet you alone if you establish enough trust first (i had one travel 12 hours by sea to meet me in cebu alone, although she first asked if she could bring a friend). but that is the exception. generally speaking, anything that is too easy should set off warning signs. if a girl you just met online agrees to meet you alone in your hotel room, odds are good of a scammer. also, of course the younger hotties on cb, dia etc are more prone to be scammers than the middle aged ladies looking for a soulmate. its common sense.
[QUOTE=X Man]DCand 4 was referring to a girl in an AC bar. Not relevant. X[/QUOTE]
Hey X, maybe you should ask Jackson for a uniform ;)
Just to keep this relevant, I have a pic of me in my (Mariner) Uniform on my Chat Site Profile and it seems to draw a lot of attention.
Unfortunatle y some of the attention is often from the wrong quarter though. In the profile I am honest in saying I am looking for a younger asian girl who will be sexy, slim and under 23 without children. I even ask the girls (and ladyboys) not to bother contacting me if they are over 23 with children, but it seems to go unnoticed.
Apart from the usual 30-40 yr olds sending me emails, the record so far is tied between two respondants, one 61 yr old granny and a 53 yr old with 5 kids?? Of course I felt guilty when I declined their offers of friendship :)
Cheers, F/Fifty
[QUOTE=Fifty Fifty]Hey X, maybe you should ask Jackson for a uniform ;)
Just to keep this relevant, I have a pic of me in my (Mariner) Uniform on my Chat Site Profile and it seems to draw a lot of attention.
Unfortunatle y some of the attention is often from the wrong quarter though. In the profile I am honest in saying I am looking for a younger asian girl who will be sexy, slim and under 23 without children. I even ask the girls (and ladyboys) not to bother contacting me if they are over 23 with children, but it seems to go unnoticed.
Apart from the usual 30-40 yr olds sending me emails, the record so far is tied between two respondants, one 61 yr old granny and a 53 yr old with 5 kids?? Of course I felt guilty when I declined their offers of friendship :)
Cheers, F/Fifty[/QUOTE]
Everyone likes a sailor FF you knw that :))
Occassionallly i have had a really gorgeous young looking girl on a dating site contact me & when I reply I get an older 'cousin' suddenly jump into the picture telling me the girl is 'much too young' & instead offering themselves. of course the 'cousin' is much older & really homely looking.
Its happened a few times from chicks allegedly from Cebu so I think it is likely to be just sad bait & switch attempts by unattractive women to try to get a 'foot in the door'.
AV
thanks for input regarding my original post... turns out i've been in contact with several pinays on dia whom i thought were over the age of 18 based on their listed age and the photo they were using. upon talking to them on yahoo, however, i found out that two were 16 and another only 14. i'm just hoping i stumbled onto a few exceptions rather than the rule...i'm planning a trip to the phils a bit later this year (probably will stick to angeles and manila since this will be my first foray there) and i certainly do not intend to end up in bed with an **** girl.
[quote=gaijin gigolo]thanks for input regarding my original post... turns out i've been in contact with several pinays on dia whom i thought were over the age of 18 based on their listed age and the photo they were using. upon talking to them on yahoo, however, i found out that two were 16 and another only 14.[/quote]many girls use an incorrect age. i had some contacting me, who wrote in their profile that they are 18, but were 16 or below in reality. another wrote she was 20 and in reality was 18. i guess she was **** when she signed up and chose a wrong birth date.
but it's very easy to get their real birth date. just ask them when their birthday is and they will tell you :). they usually are not that good in instantly making up wrong dates.
Just back to HK after 10 days, met up with some cam girls but ALL came with "sisters" and chaperones, real pain sometimes. Two examples
First girl claimed to be 18, although transpired was 16, her sister was just 18, managed to hit on the 18yr old, 16 yr old went home, and although her sister was a cherry, gave a great BBBJ with CIM no problem.
Next day couple of ABC girls, both cherries and no way going to break them, seeing my disapointment and many sorry sir, both offered their ass's, not wishing to upset one had them both undress and let one lube up the others ass and visa versa, followed by a very nice greek session.
Hi China,
I've also met some really nice girls from ABC. They are often good company and pretty genuine.
I tried to PM you, but you don't accept private messages.
Do you mind giving the ABC names (aliases) of the girls you met? Sounds like you had a great time with some very nice girls.
Thanks
[QUOTE=China35]Just back to HK after 10 days, met up with some cam girls but ALL came with "sisters" and chaperones, real pain sometimes. Two examples
First girl claimed to be 18, although transpired was 16, her sister was just 18, managed to hit on the 18yr old, 16 yr old went home, and although her sister was a cherry, gave a great BBBJ with CIM no problem.
Next day couple of ABC girls, both cherries and no way going to break them, seeing my disapointment and many sorry sir, both offered their ass's, not wishing to upset one had them both undress and let one lube up the others ass and visa versa, followed by a very nice greek session.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Victorian]Hi China,
I've also met some really nice girls from ABC. They are often good company and pretty genuine.
I tried to PM you, but you don't accept private messages.
Do you mind giving the ABC names (aliases) of the girls you met? Sounds like you had a great time with some very nice girls.
Thanks[/QUOTE]
Had similar fun with ACM girls, they know the score are eager to have fun. :asat yeaar met one, she brought another ends up a threesome even though did not start like that. Another was same, both still on nACM.
As others have said before, for the the CB/DIA girls etc give them a quick test and they can't make up a date so quickly.
China/Victorian - can swap their handles if you like. PM me
Here are some more pics of my favourite cam girl. I normally send her $50 and then she gives me 4 - 5 shows over yahoo.
Real nice girl, does anything you ask.
PM me for details if you are interested.
[QUOTE=AussieOverboard]Here are some more pics of my favourite cam girl. I normally send her $50 and then she gives me 4 - 5 shows over yahoo.
Real nice girl, does anything you ask.
PM me for details if you are interested.[/QUOTE]OK let me try again LOL.
[QUOTE=AussieOverboard]OK let me try again LOL.[/QUOTE]
Hi,
nice pictures, but why not save ur money and take a flight and get the real thing..one thing also, Im pretty sure she wont meet you up when you here. If she can get away with guys who send her money for a show she wont need to spread her legs for the real thing.
50 US for 5 shows is ok, on sites you would pay more...but if I were you, watch your spending..rent a porn..wank off and save ur money to get the real thing...many pussy here and most of them are more pretty then they cybersl.ts :D
Happy wanking
Blink
[QUOTE=Blink157]Hi,
nice pictures, but why not save ur money and take a flight and get the real thing..one thing also, Im pretty sure she wont meet you up when you here. If she can get away with guys who send her money for a show she wont need to spread her legs for the real thing.[/QUOTE]I was there in April and will be back in August. I didnt suggest anywhere in my post that I would meet up with her or that she would do so. I simply added the pictures for the enjoyment of members
[QUOTE=Blink157]50 US for 5 shows is ok, on sites you would pay more...but if I were you, watch your spending..rent a porn..wank off and save ur money to get the real thing...many pussy here and most of them are more pretty then they cybersl.ts :D
Happy wanking
Blink[/QUOTE]Hey each to their own. I prefer live cam show than porn, thats my preference. As for saving money to get the real thing, I do get the real thing. Who doesnt like a little variety, porn - P4P - freebies.
Blink, your heart is in the right place, but how in heck do you know she's "not as" pretty? Are you getting some pictures the rest of us haven't? (If the answer is 'yes', please forward).
Well, I haven't seen her face, but I like that bod a lot. Not everyone needs pendulous breasts.
As for OzzieOverboard, take Blink's advice and get your ozzie arse over to the Philppines. Best of luck with Ms. Ittybittytittie.
X
[QUOTE=Blink157]Hi,
nice pictures, but why not save ur money and take a flight and get the real thing..one thing also, Im pretty sure she wont meet you up when you here. If she can get away with guys who send her money for a show she wont need to spread her legs for the real thing.
50 US for 5 shows is ok, on sites you would pay more...but if I were you, watch your spending..rent a porn..wank off and save ur money to get the real thing...many pussy here and most of them are more pretty then they cybersl.ts :D
Happy wanking
Blink[/QUOTE]
Cam shows a very attractive lady. She says she works as a baby sitter and I ask her if she also has kids. She says "virgin". The chat continues like this...
X: Sorry, I'm not interested in virgins. I wish you luck.
lyn : you dont lyk virgin?
lyn : its ok
X: I can like anybody, but how can I have such a girlfriend? Friend is okay.
lyn : wat do you mean?
X: Well, I like sex. I like affection. I know we have a different culture, but I'm not interested in a virgin gf.
lyn : just try me
lyn : i can probably do wat you want
X: ??? you mean you aren't a virgin?
lyn : i have tried once
You can interpret this any way you want, but my interpretation is that she will tell youanything you want to hear. Proceed at your own risk.
X
This from the Gulf News in the UAE where I am
[url]http://www.gulfnews.com/world/Philippines/10219806.html[/url]
It does begs a number of questions......Trust this is no-one on ISG :D
[QUOTE=Wicked Roger]This from the Gulf News in the UAE where I am
[url]http://www.gulfnews.com/world/Philippines/10219806.html[/url]
It does begs a number of questions......Trust this is no-one on ISG :D[/QUOTE]
hahahaha,
that makes me laugh..poor guy...but I know that the most baklas and TS from Cebu as of my knowledge. Not sure why....oh well..that really made me laugh a lot :D
Blink
[QUOTE=AussieOverboard]I was there in April and will be back in August. I didnt suggest anywhere in my post that I would meet up with her or that she would do so. I simply added the pictures for the enjoyment of members
Hey each to their own. I prefer live cam show than porn, thats my preference. As for saving money to get the real thing, I do get the real thing. Who doesnt like a little variety, porn - P4P - freebies.[/QUOTE]
Hi,
of course evrybody on his own liking.All I want to say is, it can sum up.
I can also access sites here while in the Philippines and all I can say in terms of meeting those gurls I like to meet..(there are also gurls who like to meet me but I lose interest) as of now ZERO....
Either they txt me to a time I had allready 3 rounds with some other gurl, they txt me when I had eaten allready, they txt me when both occured :D
Another example. As much I like pretty gurls, also virgins, real or not real , last time I talked to one of my sweet Dh girl with the perfect ass. I have to take a picture some day...she asked me to barfine her for barhop. Damaage was 3k. I told her I rather go now ALONE barhop, then go to swiss chalet and have a nice meal instead spending now 3k on her. Beside its low season and beside of that if those brgy cops fxxers continue this bullshit with foreigners, soon we look for another playground..
Happy hunting
Blink
[QUOTE=Wicked Roger]This from the Gulf News in the UAE where I am
[url]http://www.gulfnews.com/world/Philippines/10219806.html[/url]
It does begs a number of questions......Trust this is no-one on ISG :D[/QUOTE]
I always wondered about these stories so I did some searching. Here is what I found:
Source
[url]www.pinay-american.com/2008/06/thank-you-for-clarrying-truth.html[/url]
Thank You For Clarrying The Truth
Few days ago, last June 7, 2008, I made a post about the news I read online regarding an American man who’s seeking for annulment. Lou Vincent Suarez himself, the person whom that American man married, left a message on my post A Husband Found Out He Married A Gay to clarify and correct the issue. He said that the news wasn’t true and it causes him so much shame and pain.
I want to thank Lou Vincent Suarez for clarifying the issue and for leaving a message on my blog. I will post your message here in a hope that people will read hear your side and know the truth behind the issue. I am so sorry for all the shame and pain you are feeling right now.
To you Lou, there’s nothing wrong about being gay and the right person for you will come in time. God bless you and you may find the happiness you deserve in life.
Below is Lou Vincent's message on my comment area in my previous post.
Blogger lousuarez said.
To Whom It May Concern:
Good Day!
I would like to clarify things on the news yesterday June 7, 2008 about US man who filed petition for annullment to gay bride. I am Lou Vincent Suarez the alleged wife. Would like to clarify things which is not true that Mr Gerald Brainard III didn't knew the fact that I'm not a true girl.
I'm not stupid to marry him in a municipal court without his knowledge of my true gender. Yes at first time I met him on asianeuro website I admit I deceive him the truth that I'm a ######, but when he went over here in Philippines to meet me I hide from him for I am afraid when he found out and he don't knew it he would hurt me so all the time he was in manila I hide from him and he followed me in cebu city. Until I decided to admit to him and tell him the reasons why never met him in manila. So I told him everything in our chat on yahoo messenger. I told him I lie that I'm not a real woman in fact after he knew that my birth certificate has an error with female in gender, he encourages me to get married because he was afraid I could be taken by others. (take note I'm 4th wife) since there was no problem in my documents and he said there is no problem on my documents to go in US because we even planned to have me a sex change last April 2007 in Thailand. Which did not happen because he never talk to me last March 2007. And he promises alot to have a church wedding afterwards etc.
I guess this is very unfair on my part because this shocking news put me into so much embarrassment. They published this article without seeking the truth on my side. Its not easy on my part to be on the front page of the news and all of that statement was not true. I have some email saved and other documents which will prove that Gerald Brainard III (Jerry) is aware that I'm not a girl and we had a communication after the wedding unlike what the news stated he flown back to US immediately after he knews it which is NOT TRUE. He even supported me until the time he never contact me anymore last March 2007. His testimonial on dating website proves already that he was aware that I'm a ladyboy. You can browse on asianeuro.com go to their success stories there you can see his testimonial that he was happy to met me and marry me despite the fact that I'm not a true girl. You can simply click this link
(note: I was not sure if I could post the link so I removed the [url]http: //www[/url].)
Asianeuro.com/Success. Cfm? Start=191
And you will see this statement:
Jerry and Venus "Thank you Asianeuro.com for bringing us together" I am Jerry and this is Venus. We met through asianeuro.com back in May. We started out by sending an email through the website and kept missing each other through time differences. I had a few other choices but wanted to talk to this lady before I knew which way to go. Finally we were able to chat with each other through the chat system on the website and yahoo messenger. I then knew she was the one for me. It was like God guided us together. We fell deeply in love. We used every means possible to know more about each other from messenger to webcams to the telephone. We made plans for me to come to the Philippines and we could then meet and go from there. I flew to the Philippines on the 15th of June and stayed in a hotel in Manila. At the time I left the states she had been living in an apartment in Quezon City. She never showed at the hotel nor called me there. I had used both the internet capabilities at the hotel and the internet cafes in the area to contact her and leave her messages. I called both her cell phone and her parent's home. LOL It was quite frustrating. Let me tell you though, if you're in love and really really believe that this woman loves you, don't ever give up. I left Manila and went to the city of Cebu where her parents lived. I called and left a message with them letting them know I where I was. They gave her the message. I also sent her emails through this hotel's internet capabilities. She finally got a hold of me. Yes, she was hiding. She was in love with me but she had a problem and thought I would be mad and would hurt her for keeping such a problem from me. No matter what her problem was I told her I was IN LOVE with her and we can overcome anything. We met that night. Our love for each other knows no bounds. We were married on the 21st of June and the paperwork will be processed soon for her to come home to me. So any of you guys out there, if you love the one you come to the Philippines or where ever to see, and she is hiding from you from fear of something, don't give up until you get to at least talk to her. Thank you Asianeuro.com for bringing us together.
I hope somehow this things should be clarify to the public because this news caused so much embarrassment to me and to my family.
I wish someone can help me spread the truth regarding this matter because the news wasn't true and I want to seek justice for it causes me so much shame and pain.
Thanks and more power
Sincerely yours,
LOU VINCENT SUAREZ
******************
Frankly, I could care less about the ladyboy, so I am not trying to help him out. But I always question these guys who claim they did not know. So he married without meeting the family? Look at his alleged picture. He does not look THAT retarded.
Interesting CC,
Did you also search for the US guy? I did. Maybe you can email him too!
The problem with the Ladyboy letter is that he never suggests why his fiance suddenly changed his mind. So, we still don't have the whole story.
X
[QUOTE=Chocolate Chip]I always wondered about these stories so I did some searching. Here is what I found:
SNIP
.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=X Man]Interesting CC,
Did you also search for the US guy? I did. Maybe you can email him too!
The problem with the Ladyboy letter is that he never suggests why his fiance suddenly changed his mind. So, we still don't have the whole story.
X[/QUOTE]I agree X and I certainly did not mean to imply that the ladyboy had cleared things up. Just wanted to show both sides. My search consisted of Googling unique phrases in the original story. That's how I wound up with his reply. But like he said:"I'm not stupid to marry him in a municipal court without his knowledge of my true gender." That seems logical to me. But what do I know? After all, if the groom knew, why get upset and leave? I agree that we still do not know the whole story and I doubt that the groom would fess up either. However, one thing is certain. These fraudulent chatters are playing a very dangerous game and what comes around, goes around.
CC
gentlemen,
it’s been a while since i’ve made a contribution to this board. these days, i’m back at command-central doing the 9 to 5 shuffle. but during my down time, i’m busy architecting my itinerary for my upcoming philippine adventure. so, this report is not about experiences in the field, but rather about my recent experiences on dia.
my motivation for this report stems from some strange and surprising experiences on dia that i think are worth sharing. despite my six trips to the philippines in the last three years, my experience on dia in the last week has significantly affected my evolving perspective on the filipina. so i’m also here looking to validate some conclusions. as such, i invite the more experienced members of this forum to offer any insights.
inspired by this thread, i signed up on dia about ten days ago. since my ultimate goal is walking off into the sunset with a filipina gem, my profile was well composed and said all the right things. (of course, i’m open to knocking down as many honeys as i can until i meet my gem. and that’s where this report comes in.)
during the initial photo approval process, i started making my moves. by approval time twenty-four hours later, i was already managing a short list of contacts and chatting away on yahoo.
a week later, i replicated the classic experiment of creating a second ‘naughty’ profile sans photo, to see how many of my new chat mates were merely posing as sweet innocents. the method was simple, where i sent out messages and identified myself as a generous american who is in your area, and i desire a companion tonight who is not shy, and sweetie, would you be interested to stay with me? " several responded with a request for a picture first. still others were open to the idea, but needed encouragement. and to my surprise, several of my sweet innocents responded by saying that they knew what i wanted, and agreed to meet me at my hotel the same night! even a cute eighteen year-old jumped at the offer and practically begged me to take her, guaranteeing that she was experienced and would do anything i wanted. only a few ignored or firmly turned down mr. naughty. i should add that i exercised this strategy with care, because i know some of you employ it in the field. after their agreeing to meet, i made up some creative reasons to cancel, making sure that i left no one hanging, so they won’t think the next dude who makes this offer is full of shit.
one of the subjects that agreed to meet mr. naughty was one i had seriously considered for a normal relationship. she has an office job and definitely not of the bargirl variety (this has been verified through creative means). she was a little resistant at first, but i was stunned that she eventually accepted. she’s definitely on my itinerary for my next adventure, but now i don’t know if i should pursue any more than your basic hit-and-run. am i being too rigid on her? any comments?
another surprise occurred when i was using the search feature to identify potential subjects. i stumbled upon a photo that i took with my own camera three months ago! the profile belongs to someone that i’m in regular contact with and last visited when i took the photo. as a ‘normal’ girl who works in the billing department of her local hospital (verified), she refers to me as ‘the one and only man i love’. her texts and emails remind me of this every few days. while being great company, i’ve always doubted her sincerity. i’m now having a ball with her on dia. it’s fascinating to watch her game in action. sometimes, i simultaneously chat with her from two machines, one as the real me and the other as mr. naughty, just to observe her style. her ability to manage her bullshit is so damned impressive that it’s brought me to a higher level of awareness about filipinas.comments?
i’ve tried to classify the women i’ve met so far on dia. most are obviously trying to establish a relationship with a sugar daddy (both the ladies and the dudes dressed like chicks.) a good number are professional hookers and/or sex cam models looking for customers. dia has also got its share of harmless internet-chat junkies. only a small fraction of these women are genuinely looking for a healthy relationship. with this said how likely are we to run into someone on dia whose aim is to set us up in a scam like the [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] and **** shit i’ve read about on this board? what are the warning signs?
a list of the rest of my observations:
even the experienced women shy away from explicit sex talk. explicitly stating your wants could blow a potentially promising encounter. some will not hesitate to let you know that they are available for services, but only if you bring up the topic first, in a smooth and gentlemanly manner.
if you plan to use dia as a serious tool for your adventures, you will need to develop a good organizational system. after just a few sessions, you will have accumulated so much contact data, you’ll begin to lose track of both your contacts and where they fall on your rating system. you might want to get your geography game up as you develop your itinerary.
advice on the location option when you’re doing a dia search: for city names, you should type in the spelling exactly as the lady put in her profile. in other words, typing in ‘cebu‘, only, will leave out profiles for ladies who had put in ‘cebu city’.
guys who are actually out in the field will enjoy a higher priority than those who are sitting at their computers on the other side of the planet. these ladies want to meet you now.
[size=-2][b][u]editor's note[/u]:[/b] [blue]i would suggest that the author or another forum member consider posting a link to this report in the reports of distinction thread. please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?]click here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size]
Great report Gumby. I guess I should be spending more time at DIA!
I may be comparing apples and oranges here, but if you ask 100 married women (of any culture), "What would you have done if a millionaire had asked you to marry him while you were still dating your future husband.", you might be surprised at the answers.
Anyway, I love being a peso millionaire!
X
I too recently discovered DIA and had been considering exactly the same thing. Look for my pm Gumby. Maybe we can compare notes. thanks
hi to all,
now i finally met a new chat gurl. i passed on an offer from a chat gurl/cam gurl i know..she wanted to meet me and she quoted me 5k lol...5k in ac??? hahaha..wtf , do i look korean?
ok, so i met this gurl. her name is camille. she worked in acm under the name slutty camille ha ha ha ha..she allways wear hi school unifrom and sexy skirt..
when chatting to her on this site , she told me she is 19 years old and 5"6.
i met her with her gay cousin, ladyboy..she was something about 5"3 1/2 and looked quite young to me. her skin was more dark as in the cam. she had those fascinating chinese looks which allready turned me on at cam and because of taking her into a private session i know how good she looks in the bodyshape department :)
we met at kokomoz, i dont go there often these days, cause its quite hot and i prefer draft beer and cool surroundings....shanos is the place to go now :) hint
so, i allways recomand for the first date, meet the gurls on a place where you dont frequent to much often. im evry weekend in ac, but dont go often to kokomoz..
when meeting her she txt me if i can pay the trike fair, which was ok to me..we went inside and nobody talks a word. she was quite shy, so i had to break the ice and talk something with the bakla , after a while she warmed up and also start talking to me. i have to say when telling her i was in town she keep on txting me all the time..until now..she looked very young to me and she finally admit she just turned 18 this april. i asked if she had any id, she told me she have and can also show me her birthcertificate. she wanted me to met her family, which shows im serious to her...yah right ...im surely dont wana marry her lol, neither her family...on the other hand she was good looking..
after some chatting, she allways blushed and i think she really liked me, later on she txt me she loves me, yeah yeah yeah lol..
her bakla cousin asked her if its ok and if she wanted to go with me....well my other gf arrives later and that wasnt a quite good idea to have them both in my room :d
so i declined to the offer and told her, lets txt first...which is allways a good idea if you busy now and like to start things slowly...or in other words if you have allready a 100% f..ckdate dont spoil it for dining..you can do that at home :d
to speed up things a bit now.. we keep on txting again and i told her im not a family guy and if she like to meet me again, she can do that alone...she txt back ok, she will meet me any time. so, lets see what will happen next...
to be continued......
blink out for lunch
[QUOTE=Blink157]Hi to all,
Ok, so I met this gurl. Her name is camille. she worked in acm under the name SLutty camille ha ha ha ha..she allways wear hi school unifrom and sexy skirt..
When chatting to her on this site , she told me she is 19 years old and 5"6.
I met her with her Gay cousin, ladyboy..She was something about 5"3 1/2 and looked quite young to me. for lunch[/QUOTE]
Blink
I know an ACM called Wildslut Camille - same one? Wears schoolie oputfit and blouse etc.
Maybe same one? Maybe we can com[are notes..
Also, so many have LB friends/minders
Had one from CB same, lovely everything (ask FF as he somehow managed to see a cam show) but her friend was a LB, loads of questions and she sought his/her approval before doing the deed.
At least he/she was not in the room, another ACM girl I have enjoyed has her friend there who later joined in..:D
Have fun
[QUOTE=Wicked Roger]Blink
I know an ACM called Wildslut Camille - same one? Wears schoolie oputfit and blouse etc.
Maybe same one? Maybe we can com[are notes..
Also, so many have LB friends/minders
Had one from CB same, lovely everything (ask FF as he somehow managed to see a cam show) but her friend was a LB, loads of questions and she sought his/her approval before doing the deed.
At least he/she was not in the room, another ACM girl I have enjoyed has her friend there who later joined in..:D
Have fun[/QUOTE]
haahaha,
ok PM me for details. I think its the same gurl...wild gurl category on ACM and pretty looks :) skirt, blouse...she looks somehow like Lucy Liu :D..which gives me the idea to let her dress like this . same as in the Mel Gibson movie "Payback"..one of my favourites :D
Geez I love gurls with looks like Lucy Liu, one of them is workin now in billboards..guess who have her number? :D another one in don pedros...to be continued LOL
Happy day
Blink
PS I have fun
Gumby,
Are you trying to find a girl or peforming some sort of psychological experiment with empirical data and analysis. Searching for a girl to fuck or have a relationship with isn't as scientific as you make it.
Are you an android or human?
Gumby: excellent post with useful observations. Ignore the malcontents who lack the intellectual curiosity (dare I say acuity) to appreciate your post.
Chatting with the same girl from different personas can be very entertaining as you noted. FASCINATING how easy it is to get her to talk about one persona to the other. And the skill with which they maintain the different stories they have told different guys.
And you definitely should test any girl you really might want as your GF. As Ronald Reagan used to say about Russian compliance with missile reduction agreements: "Trust, but verify".
"have a relationship with isn't as scientific as you make it"
Wonderful to have a message from aliens, but could someone please translate?
X
[QUOTE=OptimusPrime],
Are you trying to find a girl or peforming some sort of psychological experiment with empirical data and analysis. Searching for a girl to fuck or have a relationship with isn't as scientific as you make it.
Are you an android or human?[/QUOTE]
What is DIA?
Thanks!
Defense intelligence agency
Detroit Institute of Art
Design Institute of Austraila
Dating in Asia
Also
CB = Cherry Blossom
FH = Filipina Heart
[QUOTE=Big Dude Pilot]What is DIA?
Thanks![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Big Dude Pilot]What is DIA?
Thanks![/QUOTE]
Died in Action as in went out in a blaze of glory with your boots on and your weapon in your hand. Or, more mundanely, [url]http://www.dateinasia.com/[/url].
Cheers!!
Gamahucher is correct. When I search for "dating in asia" the website in question comes right to the top, but in fact Date in Asia is the correct name. I assume DIA owns both URL names.
That's what I get for trying to be cute in my post.
X
[QUOTE=Gamahucher]Died in Action as in went out in a blaze of glory with your boots on and your weapon in your hand. Or, more mundanely, [url]http://www.dateinasia.com/[/url].
Cheers!![/QUOTE]
Hi to all,
I was bored , its raining here and I signed up in DIA...It seems that its free to be there...How do they make money? LOL
As of now my profile is ok and I get allready many msg with ym id so far, so actually it should be free..
Taking a look at the profiles and faces I can see that many baklas/ladyboys on the side LOL...then one profile made me smile...
A gurl tellin that she is pregnant and seeking an US guy to marry her LOL, well, Im german we dont marry instant family :D
SO, lets see if I can make up some fxfriends, cause thats all I want...and Im sure those gurls on DIA just wanted the same, a sugardaddy to take care of them or a moneyko to drop by once he is in town and spend his dollares on them..why not.?? evrybody wins...
more on my experiences laters...Im ready to swap info
Blink out
I found a few interesting prospects at DIA. I noticed a few gender-doubtful types, but nothing to put me off the site altogether. I imagine they make their money from the ads ...and maybe they will become a pay site once they get enough guys hooked. Hell, I think the guy could make some money just selling the URL.
In the past I've used CB and they give lots of good info, several pics, and used to have a great search function. Aparently you can no longer search without a subscription. I'm planning a trip now, but will probably just harvest some of the old phone numbers and emails. I might regret it though.
X
[QUOTE=Blink157]Hi to all,
I was bored , its raining here and I signed up in DIA...It seems that its free to be there...How do they make money? LOL
As of now my profile is ok and I get allready many msg with ym id so far, so actually it should be free..
Taking a look at the profiles and faces I can see that many baklas/ladyboys on the side LOL...then one profile made me smile...
A gurl tellin that she is pregnant and seeking an US guy to marry her LOL, well, Im german we dont marry instant family :D
SO, lets see if I can make up some fxfriends, cause thats all I want...and Im sure those gurls on DIA just wanted the same, a sugardaddy to take care of them or a moneyko to drop by once he is in town and spend his dollares on them..why not.?? evrybody wins...
more on my experiences laters...Im ready to swap info
Blink out[/QUOTE]
At least with the ladyboys on DIA, most of them come right out and say that's what they are rather than trying to mislead people. I never understood why they do that anyway...makes no sense for anybody.
[QUOTE=X Man]I found a few interesting prospects at DIA. I noticed a few gender-doubtful types, but nothing to put me off the site altogether. I imagine they make their money from the ads ...and maybe they will become a pay site once they get enough guys hooked. Hell, I think the guy could make some money just selling the URL.
In the past I've used CB and they give lots of good info, several pics, and used to have a great search function. Aparently you can no longer search without a subscription. I'm planning a trip now, but will probably just harvest some of the old phone numbers and emails. I might regret it though.
X[/QUOTE]
Hi again,
boring day in the office...I have fun viewing this DIA site, especiallly how the gurls introduce themselves on there..
...."except me for what I am"?? ....ehehehe....I accept anything which comes free and in a nice package LOL
Well, the ladyboys....some really ugly ones there. if you not sure about one, just let it go :D
I guess they know the game, either they work in cam sites, semi pros, bargurls, single moms, baklas, gays....some look like decent ordinary work/mall gurls....well ,lets see, its free and helps me to pass time until its dark, then its hunting season again LOL
Blink out
Try this [url]http://www.acprivatedetectives.com/home[/url]
[QUOTE=HornyGeorge]Gumby: excellent post with useful observations. Ignore the malcontents who lack the intellectual curiosity (dare I say acuity) to appreciate your post.
Chatting with the same girl from different personas can be very entertaining as you noted. FASCINATING how easy it is to get her to talk about one persona to the other. And the skill with which they maintain the different stories they have told different guys.
And you definitely should test any girl you really might want as your GF. As Ronald Reagan used to say about Russian compliance with missile reduction agreements: "Trust, but verify".[/QUOTE]
I recently discovered DIA and have quickly been accumulating potential "friends" in Manila in my "favorite" folder. . This is my first experience with "pen pal" sites and it's become somewhat addictive. I'm sure I'll get over that fast however. I've noticed that you can copy your favorites from the web site and paste (including pictures) to an email. My question is are there any bros out there who have actually met with one of these potential dates in Manila and found someone quite tasty that they can refer me too. Would like to send out my "fav" list to any bros who might recognize a familar face. PM me with an email addy if you are willing to compare notes. I've focused on Manila solely. Thanks
Hi to all,
its my 3rd day in DIA, my inbox is full of nice gurls, some dogs, some ladyboys, gays and some I dont remember cause I delete their messages after receiving them and viewing them :D
Now Im on some txting and if I wouldnt be so worn out from my last night makati trip (tonight I have to go there again soccer is on ) I would have meet up with some allready..but soccer is king, pussy is ...well something else ..
as of now from the ones who on DIa, I can tell they all know the game and I guess most of the filipinas know the game, with the ratio of 1 guy to 5 or 6 filipinas they surely know it :D
I will post my experiences when meeting up with them...that will be after the eurocup sometime next week..so patient guys...and please dont send money.
remember, money cant buy love, just barfine and thats only possible if you around ;-)
Its a sunny hot day..time for some san miguel laters...
Blink
Here are some more pics of my favourite cam girl. I have some nice close ups i will post next time. PM me if you would like her details
Hello,
DIa makes me more and more laugh...
Today a chick add me up on ym and ask me to sign up into another site...
its called nastyteen cams or something else..First she told me if I likt o hook up with her..She is from quzon city..then she ask me about my cc LOL...then she told me she works part time in a cam site and hook up with members for coffee..I told her I just had a coffee..then she she told me we could also do something different..hint hint ;-)....She gave me the link from this site...I should sign up to meet her....LOL....
I gave her my cp number and she can txt me if she wana met me up, Im a busy guy so txt ahead :D
I go later to ac where I meet some gurls tonight, my GF tomrow and my mistress on sunday...
LG life is good
Blink :)
For your viewing pleasure.
The gal I met in Manila whose attitude turned 180 when I told her I would not go with her to Davao to attend her GF's b-day party. Her little studio resembles some of the ABC cam gals, has anyone made contact with this hottie? First few pics are of her in the studio, the last ones are live (except for the last one). Shagged her quite a few times, sex with her was pretty strange to say the least. (instead of enjoying the sex, she would look directly at me most of the time during the act- is this a pinay thing? )
Notice she loves her cell phones! I've never seen someone text so damn fast before.
Ok, so today was not my day. The FH girl I was supposed to have online cam sex with did not show. She was on YM and when I text her she turned off her yahoo ID to offline. Then the FH girl I was supposed to meet in Manila YM me to tell me she was bringing her "gay" guy friend to help her find her way around the city. Yet she knew all about the Hyatt Casino where I am staying and told me she stayed there before. (right) So then on to the girl I met in Angeles who I have kept in contact with. Then she starts crying on web cam and telling me she can't take it anymore without me, blah, blah, blah. I couldn't even tell her I was going to be in Angeles this weekend. She says she only wants to see me in person, no internet. Arrggggg! So, now I am going to start drinking Jack Daniels. Guess I will just BF all my chicks.
Carmex
[QUOTE=Carmex]Ok, so today was not my day..................................................
.......Guess I will just BF all my chicks.
Carmex[/QUOTE]
Why not just go for a nice walk around the Malls, sit for a coffee and meet some nice (real) girl instead of all the online and bar stuff??
Not that the bar girls aren't real of course, but there is a lot of fresh meat walking around town too !!
It really is as easy as that ;)
Cheers, F/Fifty
Just got this msg from a very nice DIA girl I have been chatting to a bit:
hELo!
gud day guys...
just to inform you that on 5TH of JULY is the birthday of my Mom!! (mama )
sHe's turning 60 on that day.
i hope you can send gifts for my mom..! haha
if not..it's ok , still you're my friend.. no probz!
it's just that, it's her special day. and i want it to be fun and hoping for
good health and blessings.
here's my address [ xxx, San Isidro San Fernando Cebu, Philippines xxxx ]
thankss.. thanks s.. and love you all!
mwuahh..mwahh.mwahhhh -)
She is such a nice girl, and being financially embarassed at the moment, I am unable to help. If any of you benevolent guys have any gifts, preferably cash of course, then please send as much as you can afford. I hope the overloaded Postman doesnt open the envelopes :D
Makes a change from using WU I suppose ;)
Cheers, F/Fifty
[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano]The gal I met in Manila whose attitude turned 180 when I told her I would not go with her to Davao to attend her GF's b-day party. Her little studio resembles some of the ABC cam gals, has anyone made contact with this hottie? First few pics are of her in the studio, the last ones are live (except for the last one). Shagged her quite a few times, sex with her was pretty strange to say the least. (instead of enjoying the sex, she would look directly at me most of the time during the act- is this a pinay thing? )
Notice she loves her cell phones! I've never seen someone text so damn fast before.[/QUOTE]
hmm....
on the secound photo she loooked liked one of the DIA gurl I send messages and I got a reply from also...but there are so many..well for me she looks ok...I have to search my inbox for her picture....now u know if she txt quite fast she might have some other dates around :D
They all know the game :)
oh well, what a nice country
Blink
[QUOTE=Carmex]Ok, so today was not my day. The FH girl I was supposed to have online cam sex with did not show. She was on YM and when I text her she turned off her yahoo ID to offline. Then the FH girl I was supposed to meet in Manila YM me to tell me she was bringing her "gay" guy friend to help her find her way around the city. Yet she knew all about the Hyatt Casino where I am staying and told me she stayed there before. (right) So then on to the girl I met in Angeles who I have kept in contact with. Then she starts crying on web cam and telling me she can't take it anymore without me, blah, blah, blah. I couldn't even tell her I was going to be in Angeles this weekend. She says she only wants to see me in person, no internet. Arrggggg! So, now I am going to start drinking Jack Daniels. Guess I will just BF all my chicks.
Carmex[/QUOTE]Ok, so off to Manila in the am. The girl with the gay friend just texted and asked if I had made my reservations at the Hyatt Casino. I texted I had, and she text back, " Do you still want to meet me? ", I text yes, and then "Oh, I forgot, my kid has to go to school that day so can I meet you at 10pm" I text yes, and she says, 'I've got to go, my mom needs to use the computer'.
Now, I am not all that sharp when it comes to bola2 girls, but come on! Are you kidding me with all this BS! Anyway, going alone, will just go to the malls and pick up some FL chicks. That is more fun anyway.
Whats the purpose of FH anyway? Internet pimp service? Will let you guys know the details. Need a camera though.
Peace
[QUOTE=Carmex]Ok, so off to Manila in the am. The girl with the gay friend just texted and asked if I had made my reservations at the Hyatt Casino. I texted I had, and she text back, " Do you still want to meet me? ", I text yes, and then "Oh, I forgot, my kid has to go to school that day so can I meet you at 10pm" I text yes, and she says, 'I've got to go, my mom needs to use the computer'.
Now, I am not all that sharp when it comes to bola2 girls, but come on! Are you kidding me with all this BS! Anyway, going alone, will just go to the malls and pick up some FL chicks. That is more fun anyway.
Whats the purpose of FH anyway? Internet pimp service? Will let you guys know the details. Need a camera though.
Peace[/QUOTE]
Hi,
take fly the bus to angels city and dont wait until the weekend...Manila is noisy, polluted, expensive and ok to monger for a night or if you live there, ok also, but your here for ur holidays, right? So you need a pool, good food, value for money..dont worry, if you into the cam business many chicks do that in ac also, as a matter of fact, most of them are from this place ;-)
Happy hunting and up to AC :)
Blink
Oh?
Hope you can share your experiences wise one. Which mall? What is your technique?
X
[QUOTE=Fifty Fifty]Why not just go for a nice walk around the Malls, sit for a coffee and meet some nice (real) girl instead of all the online and bar stuff??
Not that the bar girls aren't real of course, but there is a lot of fresh meat walking around town too !!
It really is as easy as that ;)
Cheers, F/Fifty[/QUOTE]
Blink has good advice as usual.
If you spend time in MNL, I assume you've RTFF and will attempt to find LA Cafe or EDSA Entertainment Center. You might be better off doing this on the first day rather than slumming in the malls. Hopefully 50/50 will have some details about that, but I wouldn't hold your breath.
The girl you mention sounds risky, but you seem to be reading the very worse into the situation. MM is one helluva big city and if you are trying to get from point A to point B in a jeepney, you make be talking 3+ hours. She may be relying on gay guy to help her. A GG chaperone may be better than a cousin -- he's helping his lady friend, but he understands what you are after.
Anyway, this post may be coming to late if you are on your way to the Philippines.
Have fun.
X
[QUOTE=Carmex]Ok, so off to Manila in the am. The girl with the gay friend just texted and asked if I had made my reservations at the Hyatt Casino. I texted I had, and she text back, " Do you still want to meet me? ", I text yes, and then "Oh, I forgot, my kid has to go to school that day so can I meet you at 10pm" I text yes, and she says, 'I've got to go, my mom needs to use the computer'.
Now, I am not all that sharp when it comes to bola2 girls, but come on! Are you kidding me with all this BS! Anyway, going alone, will just go to the malls and pick up some FL chicks. That is more fun anyway.
Whats the purpose of FH anyway? Internet pimp service? Will let you guys know the details. Need a camera though.
Peace[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=X Man]Oh?
Hope you can share your experiences wise one. Which mall? What is your technique?
X[/QUOTE]
Personally I tend to hang around Glorietta in Bo's Coffee Shop (Manila) and same in Cebu (in Ayala or SM) or Starbucks just outside of Greenbelt. Sit there watch the totty go by, smile, eye contact etc and you will get lucky.
If you are in Gloriettta on the first floor there are girls who also go aound looking and smiling, some of course have 'business cards' for their 'massage services' but others just trying it on like us mongers are.
Not always successful but it does work, has for me and I am no oil painting
Hi,
just read this one....
Looking for the Love of my life
I am loyal, fun to be with, no dull moments when you are with me..ill make sure of that...(heheheh) i am so sweet, caring, God-fearing, thoughtful, sincere, HONEST. i loves to sing and dance. i loves to eat chocolates..hehehe..i loves perfumes, clothes, many more things. but i prioritized much my studies but unfortunately i dont think i can be able to continue it becoz of financila instability..well i dont have to elaborate so much of that. i need a man who is willing to look after me and can be able to help me now with my schooling im just being honest
Now, reading her last line encouraged me to make contact :D
hi hello, Im bixxx and as of now im in the Philippines, you can talk to me on ym o just txt me
nixxxx4 and 092xxxxx5
ingats
B.....
SweetChiq18 wrote:
im online at ym rude_xxxxxx
SweetChiq18 wrote:
honestly b... im looking for a long term relationship a man who is willing to help me now and can support me with my studies
Eheheheh...long term money relationship, means an idiot who will send her money on a regular base LOL
my reply :D
ahahahaha ok....well, I guess you loook for somebody who doesnt know anything about the Philippines...not like me who lives and work in Philippines,but I wish you good luck
ur line is like that....Pay now and wait for nothing LOL
bye bye
B....
DIA is cracking me up, of course <I could play stupid and met her, but for what? time is money and I dont waste both for nothing :D
Blink
PS never heard from her again LOL
Xmen and other fellow mongers.
I guess eye contact is the best thing to do. Then if you think she likes you, take your time, make some jokes. Well if time is a matter then you should see to aproach her alone and exchange cp numbers. If you do that infront of her mates, she will be shy, better to aproach her alone, Gurls don't like tsis mis. Shy at first but wild when the door slams: D
Blink
[QUOTE=X Man]Oh?
Hope you can share your experiences wise one. Which mall? What is your technique?
X[/QUOTE]Note to Sage.
Spending time in the Malls and ''chatting up'' girls who literally throw themselves at any ex-pat who ''breathes'' in their direction hardly requires technique.
Which mall? - Any mall will do.
What is your technique ?? - Dress decently, smile and be approachable , if that can be considered a technique.
Get real X and stop wasting online time and space asking me questions when all you need to do is RTFF.
Cheers, F/Fifty
Guys,
Imnot sure about this one...Ladyboy? what you think? same gurl?
Got this one from DIA...
let me know what u thinking..
Blink
Ok, so we meet at the Hyatt Casino where I am staying. Funny how all these girls I meet on the net, and talk to later once I am here, not only "know" the Hyatt, but have stayed here, and know the name of the doorman! (TOM) As in just tell Tom to get you a taxi to Cavite mall. Met the girl, she was hot, nice body, friend was cool. Had fun, but she was too shy. I guess I did not know what the deal was, so I gave her money for cab to go home. She seemed upset by this. So now today, she doesnot return my calls. Ahh, such is life.
So, after I left those two at the bedrock, I went to LA Cafe and picked up two hot bitches who stayed the whole night for 1500 apiece. I gave on 2000 because she was smokin and I went BB the whole time.
Off to the mall and maybe amazonia.
I need to live here (maybe).
Fifty,
There's no reason to be rude. You told someone to just go to a coffee shop -- surely you can offer more advice than that. Maybe it's you wasting time and space!
And to readers, you can sit in a coffee shop till the cows come home, and you are not likely to get women throwing themselves at you as Fifty suggests. Acutally, most Filipinas don't even drink coffee. I've had a couple skanky p4p types give me the eye while walking by...surely that is not what 50 means.
Disclaimer: Maybe I'm not as good looking as 50, or maybe he as a particular mall and technique that he'd rather not share. Or maybe he likes skanks.
[QUOTE=Fifty Fifty]Note to Sage.
Spending time in the Malls and ''chatting up'' girls who literally throw themselves at any ex-pat who ''breathes'' in their direction hardly requires technique.
Which mall ?? - Any mall will do.
What is your technique ?? - Dress decently, smile and be approachable , if that can be considered a technique.
Get real X and stop wasting online time and space asking me questions when all you need to do is RTFF.
Cheers, F/Fifty[/QUOTE]
Blink.
I can't remeber for sure but yes your on the right track, I chatted to her/him back in April; . I can't remeber if I thought he/she was a lady boy or just a scammer, but there was something sus about her/him. So I didn't persue it further. So take care. She/he sent me a few other pics too. Make up your own mind.
Oh and look at the size of those clod hoppers? In the third picture, hmmmm?
[QUOTE=X Man]Fifty,
There's no reason to be rude. You told someone to just go to a coffee shop -- surely you can offer more advice than that. Maybe it's you wasting time and space!.[/QUOTE]
Do not patronise me after sending me Rude PMs.
I am beginning to wonder, is this going to be another of those endless 'X Man' Ping=Pong matches where you intentionally wring every last piece of information out of every word that is posted - As I said, the Coffe Shop/Mall thing is not Rocket Science and has been talked about on this forum by many others, not only me. It does not require any special technique.
[QUOTE=X Man]And to readers, you can sit in a coffee shop till the cows come home, and you are not likely to get women throwing themselves at you as Fifty suggests. Acutally, most Filipinas don't even drink coffee. .[/QUOTE]
So one could ''Acutally'' offer to buy them a Milk Shake and Cookies instead.
[QUOTE=X Man]I've had a couple skanky p4p types give me the eye while walking by...surely that is not what 50 means..[/QUOTE]
We have all had many of those, and no that is not what I mean. The Malls contain as many good lookers as they do bad - Take your pick, but remember, each to his own and YMMV ;)
[QUOTE=X Man]Disclaimer: Maybe I'm not as good looking as 50, or maybe he as a particular mall and technique that he'd rather not share..[/QUOTE]
I neither know or care what you look like, and I do not consider my looks to have much to do with it either. Apart from me being a ''Foreigner'' of course.
Lets face it the bottom line why young Pilipinas consort with old ex-pats like you, me and many others is - Money, end of story.
This means that as I said, there is no particular technique required.
Maybe I open my wallet in an alluring way, I dont know, perhaps I should try it.
[QUOTE=X Man]Or maybe he likes skanks.[/QUOTE]
Define ''skank'' as in your opinion it would appear that we are all in some way inferior.
I said before, it is each to his own, there are plenty to go round.
My previous reports and pics indicate that I prefer good looking 18-24 yr old girls who weigh less than 45 Kgs, but maybe some of them are Skanks, you never know until you invite them over for a coffee (or a milk shake) ;)
No Technique Required - just money of course. YMMV
Cheers, F/Fifty
Thank you for your reply, Fifty.
Yikes, have you forgotten that you were rude to me long before we ever exchanged pm, and many times since? I'm not patronizing, I'm just trying to avoid overt rudeness.
All those words you typed, but the only thing I expected was your own story about your adventure in the mall. I can only assume you don't want to tell the story, or your recommendation to hit the malls was simply a regurgitation of something you had read in past messages.
Nothing wrong with living vicariously thru other people's postings, but since you gave someone a recommendation to hit the malls, I assumed you had a bit more info -- maybe a story.
I'd recommend going to the mall for shopping and even girl watching, but not for someone new who wants to get laid. Feel free to give the opposite advice, but at least you should give a bit of background.
Anyway, this is the chat forum. I haven't had much luck with DIA and am tempted to renew my subscription to Cherry Blossoms. Someone please talk me out of it.
Sorry, for being mostly off topic, but me thinks fifty wants to play ping pong. :-)
X
BTW, I've already posted about my own experiences at the Robinsons Mall, Ermita, SM and Ayala in Cebu, Gasiano in Davao. Mostly meeting chat friends at the mall, but a few pick ups and a few disappointments.
[QUOTE=Fifty Fifty]Do not patronise me after sending me Rude PMs.
I am beginning to wonder, is this going to be another of those endless 'X Man' Ping=Pong matches where you intentionally wring every last piece of information out of every word that is posted - As I said, the Coffe Shop/Mall thing is not Rocket Science and has been talked about on this forum by many others, not only me. It does not require any special technique.
So one could ''Acutally'' offer to buy them a Milk Shake and Cookies instead.
We have all had many of those, and no that is not what I mean. The Malls contain as many good lookers as they do bad - Take your pick, but remember, each to his own and YMMV ;)
I neither know or care what you look like, and I do not consider my looks to have much to do with it either. Apart from me being a ''Foreigner'' of course.
Lets face it the bottom line why young Pilipinas consort with old ex-pats like you, me and many others is - Money, end of story.
This means that as I said, there is no particular technique required.
Maybe I open my wallet in an alluring way, I dont know, perhaps I should try it.
Define ''skank'' as in your opinion it would appear that we are all in some way inferior.
I said before, it is each to his own, there are plenty to go round.
My previous reports and pics indicate that I prefer good looking 18-24 yr old girls who weigh less than 45 Kgs, but maybe some of them are Skanks, you never know until you invite them over for a coffee (or a milk shake) ;)
No Technique Required - just money of course. YMMV
Cheers, F/Fifty[/QUOTE]
Blink, I wouldn't have thought lady boy, but I might think "too good to be true". The thin nose, nice clothing, ample bust, is all a bit suspicous. If you aren't sure, give me the contact info and I'll go ahead an meet her. :-)
X
[QUOTE=Blink157]Guys,
Imnot sure about this one...Ladyboy? what you think? same gurl?
Got this one from DIA...
let me know what u thinking..
Blink[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Blink157]Guys,
Imnot sure about this one...Ladyboy? what you think? same gurl?
Got this one from DIA...
let me know what u thinking..
Blink[/QUOTE]I assume they are unless proven wrong. If they are tall and too "dolled up" I would worry. DIA has the most Ladyboys, because it does not have the same oversight of CB and FH.
Ask her for her Friendster address, 95 percent of Pinays have Friendster, if she says she does not, move on. Check out her friends on Friendster and all of her pictures to get a better idea of what she looks like and if she hangs out with mostly gays or straights.
Bob bowie, learning by experience every day.
I do not know for shure because I did not been on dia for long time but my feeling are that most (50%) and the ratio skyrocketed high as girl are prettier and younger that these are scammer they chat with you and they mostly answer by: yeah and o. K. Not very into a conversation guess that they mostly have a few msg windows open and chatting with a few bloke at the same time you can see it thru the webcam they look busy but have nothing to write except yeah or ok or small talk and if you get to chat a few time with them then the cat come out of the bag: they can not go on internet because it cost money in other words send me some cash my first lesson to be learn if you want to meet some pussy on dia it is best to be a resident in Phil and make rendez vous to meet them in person and then you can.
[QUOTE=Dacian]Blink.
I can't remeber for sure but yes your on the right track, I chatted to her/him back in April; . I can't remeber if I thought he/she was a lady boy or just a scammer, but there was something sus about her/him. So I didn't persue it further. So take care. She/he sent me a few other pics too. Make up your own mind.
Oh and look at the size of those clod hoppers? In the third picture, hmmmm?[/QUOTE]
Yeah,
something is wrong....did you ever get her on cam?? She told me she dont have hmmm.....
I will report my experience here ...
Blink
[QUOTE=X Man]Blink, I wouldn't have thought lady boy, but I might think "too good to be true". The thin nose, nice clothing, ample bust, is all a bit suspicous. If you aren't sure, give me the contact info and I'll go ahead an meet her. :-)
X[/QUOTE]
sure,
I Pm you her details, but dont complain if ur butt hurts next morning after a round of tequila, and milkshakes....how you call this?? yeah, WHite Russian..ehehehehe....
Blink out
[QUOTE=Blink157]Guys,
Imnot sure about this one...Ladyboy? what you think? same gurl?
Got this one from DIA...
let me know what u thinking..
Blink[/QUOTE]
You can also find her here....
[url]http://www.latinkisses.de/view.php?l=en&id=71845[/url]
You can decide for yourself if she is genuine.
[QUOTE=Naked Gunz]You can also find her here....
[url]http://www.latinkisses.de/view.php?l=en&id=71845[/url]
You can decide for yourself if she is genuine.[/QUOTE]
Whatever the case she/he looks more than good enough to take a chance on. Just be the pitcher and not the catcher.
Slim
[QUOTE=Naked Gunz]You can also find her here....
[url]http://www.latinkisses.de/view.php?l=en&id=71845[/url]
You can decide for yourself if she is genuine.[/QUOTE]
oh well,
I accidently delete her number, but I send her offline now and gave her mine..I cant help myself something is wrong here, but we see, I will keep you update on this..
thanks for the info :)
Blink
Elmerfud, love the name.
Short answers also annoy me, but then I'm not the one trying to communicate in a foreign language. I've met a few of these ladies face to face and found out that they couldn't carry on a conversation very well either -- which is one reason why a guy might consider allowing a chaperone/ friend to accompany a woman if she so requests.
I've had at least two who could harldy talk to me, could barely look me in the eye, but her friendly chaperone found someway to keep the party going and, much to my surprise, the shy girl ended up in my bed --- umm, now that I think about it, the chaperone was over on the other bed! Ha, ha. The shy girl cautioned me to be quiet, but I knew damn well that chaperone was getting a kick out of the whole episode.
Anyway, moral of the story is to lighten up, assume the best, not the worst. I don't always take my own advice, but there you go.
X
PS. I type fast and have chatted with six at one time. Don't try this at home gents, you will get this warning signal, "are you busy?"
[QUOTE=Elmerfud]I do not know for shure because I did not been on dia for long time but my feeling are that most (50%) and the ratio skyrocketed high as girl are prettier and younger that these are scammer they chat with you and they mostly answer by: yeah and o. K. Not very into a conversation guess that they mostly have a few msg windows open and chatting with a few bloke at the same time you can see it thru the webcam they look busy but have nothing to write except yeah or ok or small talk and if you get to chat a few time with them then the cat come out of the bag: they can not go on internet because it cost money in other words send me some cash my first lesson to be learn if you want to meet some pussy on dia it is best to be a resident in Phil and make rendez vous to meet them in person and then you can.[/QUOTE]
Odd that you posted this. I'm not much of a tequila drinker, but went to a party the other night where one of the finance guys (expat with fat finance expense account) bought a round of tequila shots, and then someone returned the favor. I already had my pint, so was getting pretty drunk even before 9pm.
I don't remember the train ride home, other than seeing Hello Kitty with lingerie on some sign or poster somewhere. Sexy panties on HELLO KITTY?
Or was that a dream? I dealt with this for a long time in the morning...savoring the dry mouth, headache hangover that most of you surely can identify with. After thinking and thinking, and worrying that I had gone over the edge, something finally came to mind. PEACH. You do like peaches don't you?
[url]http://shop.sanrio.jp/main/ctc-OS-clb-pj/[/url]
X
Blink, it was a drunken Tequila night, but my butt doesn't hurt. But, I will never think of Hello Kitty in the same way. The little mouthless srut:-)
[QUOTE=Blink157]sure,
I Pm you her details, but dont complain if ur butt hurts next morning after a round of tequila, and milkshakes....how you call this?? yeah, WHite Russian..ehehehehe....
Blink out[/QUOTE]
Hmm, you're typing to six girls and each of them are typing to a dozen guys. It's a bit late here and I'm drinking a bit, so somebody else do the math, inlcuding each of the dozen guys she is chatting, maybe only a couple or few girls(since not much of us can keep up with the banter of 6 Filipnas at the same time...).
Bottom line, odds of any of you thinking, (I say "you" only because I've already lived and learned) being the one and only guy any given girl is giving her heart (read temporary and or potential pussy) to is just silly.
Bud
[QUOTE=X Man]
PS. I type fast and have chatted with six at one time. Don't try this at home gents, you will get this warning signal, "are you busy?"[/QUOTE]
they slept in airconditioned rooms, were provided with their own maids, and paid hundreds of thousands of pesos. nonetheless, police said, by performing sex acts for pay they were victims of exploitation. so, after two months of surveillance, 19 women -- most of them in their teens and many suspected to be minors -- were rescued by authorities from an alleged cybersex den in las piñas city.
"they are victims of [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908][CodeWord908][/url]," said supt. michel filart, who led the team from the police criminal investigation and detection group that raided the office of orgasmic studios inc. on friday. but with all the perks enjoyed by the victims, it was no surprise that they found nothing wrong with the den's operation. "we are not criminals, we did not violate any law," one of the rescued girls said. one even related how much she stood to lose with the raid.
$1,000-earnings
"as a newcomer i earned close to $1,000 (in 15 days), but old timers earned as much as $2,000," said megan (not her real name), one of the girls caught doing sexual acts in front of a computer web camera. on a bulletin board of orgasmic's office, a list showed its top earners, with the best performer taking home $1,856.39 (roughly p102,000) in 15 days.
to prod the girls to work harder on their clients, a memo on the board shows den operators promising them a 100 percent incentive on top of their quota if they bring in $2,500 (p137,500) or more during the same period. one of the girls said orgasmic already paid them in pesos.
according to orgasmic's records, the longest video chat by any girl was done by sherrypassion.com, which clocked in 2 hours, 25 minutes and 2 seconds. the girls said they had no complaints because everything from food, accommodations and even laundry service was provided by orgasmic.
they were even provided the necessary work permits and licenses for them to be able to work at the internet shop. according to the girls, aloysious m. galvez, whom police invited for investigation on suspicion of running a cybersex den, even provided them with maids. each of the four maids employed to take care of the girls was reportedly paid p6,000 a month, more than the regular salary of household helpers. "mga señorita kami," said a girl who looked like a minor but claimed that she already turned 18 last month. the girls were distributed in fourteen rooms that served as studios where they performed various role playing acts for clients, mostly from the united states and germany.
arousal by computer
according to the american heritage dictionary of the english language, cybersex is sexual activity of arousal through communication by computer. cybersex-for-pay employs the internet, which gives it worldwide coverage, and computer cameras and microphones that allow clients to see and talk to girls doing the role play with or for them.
police who raided orgasmic's office in pilar village, las piñas, later seized 30 computers and 100 cameras. according to police surveillance, some of the girls at times did live sex with a partner in front of a camera. "the girls did what their clients wanted them to do," filart said. but everything was done for a fee. filart said, "clients from all over the world pay through credit card." however, he could not give specific amounts charged.
inside each studio at orgasmic was a bed and an air-conditioned unit. the walls were draped with multicolored, pastel curtains. each room had a distinct look, like one was decorated with neon lights and plastic flowers, while others were made to appear like a typical girl's room. rep001tered in some of the rooms were sex toys, costumes and skimpy lingerie.
[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908][CodeWord908][/url]
according to filart, people caught operating a cybersex den could be charged with violation of republic act 9208 or the woman and **** act. "anyone who harbors persons with or without consent for sexual exploitation is liable for [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908][CodeWord908][/url]," he said.
when police tried to bring the women to the station for investigation, the women resisted. one of them even cited an earlier statement of sen. jamby madrigal, who joined the raid but left after inspecting the alleged cybersex den. "you heard senator madrigal. we are not criminals, so you can't jail us," the girls said. the police had to patiently explain to the girls that they would just be brought to the station for proper documentation and then released to social workers from the department of social welfare and development
[QUOTE=Fifty Fifty]Do not patronise me after sending me Rude PMs.
I am beginning to wonder, is this going to be another of those endless 'X Man' Ping=Pong matches where you intentionally wring every last piece of information out of every word that is posted
F/Fifty[/QUOTE]Sadly, i fear it is FF. Taking a look around the PI threads one notices two things.
One, every thread has an extraordinary number of generic posts from this individual requesting more information... always more information. Nothing wrong with this of course but one would have thought that anyone with his alleged number of visits over such a long time period would have long since acquired enough knowledge to get along fine.
Two, members who post soon notice he nit picks their every word. Members who respond to his nit picking soon learn that its just another excuse for him to keep posting & posting & posting.. ad nauseam.
It seems this individual has a chronic need for recognition.
Take what you want from the forum, give what you can and ignore the wanker for the rest.
AV
[QUOTE=Amavida]Sadly, i fear it is FF. Taking a look around the PI threads one notices two things.
One, every thread has an extraordinary number of generic posts from this individual requesting more information... always more information........................It seems this individual has a chronic need for recognition.
Take what you want from the forum, give what you can and ignore the wanker for the rest.
AV[/QUOTE]
Interesting observations AV, would you care to elaborate :D
Incidentally, I note that you refer to the individual as a ''wanker''. Do you have proof of this? Sorry to be 'picky' but MORE INFORMATION would be appreciated :D :D :D
Got to go now, I have a nice Ladyboy on Cam
Cheers X
Ha ha, F/Fifty
hi guys,
guess you all have fun here on ISG, well, so do I, ehhehehe..
My friend just emailed me this
[url]http://www.timandrona.com/[/url]
check it out.. and to all newbies...take this as a warning from this poor guy..
Tim, if you read this, lets hear ur story here..man you must be pissed as hell.
Blink out
[QUOTE=Blink157]hi guys,
guess you all have fun here on ISG, well, so do I, ehhehehe..
My friend just emailed me this
[url]http://www.timandrona.com/[/url]
check it out.. and to all newbies...take this as a warning from this poor guy..
Tim, if you read this, lets hear ur story here..man you must be pissed as hell.
Blink out[/QUOTE]Gentlemen: Repeat after me the sage advice of my dearly departed uncle, the mayor of my ancestor's town in the province: "Trust no one. The girls just want your money. Trust no one. The girls just want your money. " I know this is a gross generalization and flippant too, but it is a good place to start when giving or "loaning" any money. I have met many fine up standing ladies, but many (and sadly some of my own kin folk (family)) have tried to dupe me out of my hard earned cash. So enjoy the islands gentlemen, but think with your head and not your heart and/or pecker. Meluvulongtime Tally Ho!
[QUOTE=Blink157]Hi guys,
I guess you all have fun here on ISG, well, so do I, ehhehehe..
My friend just emailed me this
[url]http://www.timandrona.com/[/url]
Check it out.. and to all newbies...take this as a warning from this poor guy.
Tim, if you read this, lets hear ur story here..man you must be pissed as hell.
Blink out[/QUOTE]It has been an expensive piece of meat how, but how could somebody in his right mind do something like that, once in the Phil there is so many pussy that would like to get a piece of you that you settled on only one? And buy her a house anyway look like a very decent lovely home.
Members? AV, you have consistently posted inaccurate information and this is no different. I've locked horns with THREE people. Stop believing that all the ISG members are with you.
Here are the three...
1) One fellow speaks his mind and we've disagreed on a few things, but I've learned to respect his passion.
2 & 3) That would be AV and clone Fifty. Between the two of you, I'd be surprised if you can come up with ten useful, accurate field reports that weren't simply a rehash of what someone else wrote earlier. Any request for elaboration is ignored because you actually didn't experience what you are writing about. Notice how strongly Fifty reacted when I asked him to elaborate on his own shopping mall girl hunts. My request was "mindless", he says.
But I have to give you credit AV, no one has posted more about virgins than you. And Fifty, you are the expert on Jools...
Has anyone met this guy AV who claims to live in the Philippines? I don't want any information about him, just would like to hear from one person (other than the clones) who has actually met him and can confirm that he spends time in the Philippines.
BTW, has anyone noticed that if you have a "problem" with Fifty, AV will come out of the woodwork to take a few swings. Likewise, if you have a problem with AV, Fifty is right there defending him.
What a team!
X
My apologies to the other members who are tired of these exchanges. I would promise to ignore the two, but that would just encourage them.
[QUOTE=Amavida]
Two, members who post soon notice he nit picks their every word. [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=X Man]Elmerfud, love the name.
Short answers also annoy me, but then I'm not the one trying to communicate in a foreign language. I've met a few of these ladies face to face and found out that they couldn't carry on a conversation very well either -- which is one reason why a guy might consider allowing a chaperone/ friend to accompany a woman if she so requests.[/QUOTE]Thanks X man.
I used to live in Florida in 1998 but do not make use of the english language often here where I lived in Canada (Montreal) I mostly am in a french speaking environment.
They are for fucking not a long time relationship. If you met her in a bar or on one of the camgirl sites you deserve to get ripped off. Never send them money for any reason.
[QUOTE=Blink157]hi guys,
I guess you all have fun here on ISG, well, so do I, ehhehehe..
My friend just emailed me this
[url]http://www.timandrona.com/[/url]
check it out.. and to all newbies...take this as a warning from this poor guy..
Tim, if you read this, lets hear ur story here..man you must be pissed as hell.
Blink out[/QUOTE]
hheehehe xmen,
like we say in germany...was sich liebt das neckt sich...I guess you guys have something going on ;-)
regarding the guy who send and spend to much money onthis chick who even isnt my type at all..maybe he went never there to meet her, maybe never went to the Philippines at all. Sitting at home and thinking money could buy him love...no offense, I been thru this myself, but never spend such amount for a gurl...17k..geez, how many barfines, drunken nights, bell ring would that be..Still doing the maths...ehehehe...
Dam , I have a new hot coworker now..before she dont greet me, now that Im the one checking on her, she very nice to me :D
bitches are bitches..doesnt matter where they from :)
Back to topic..
Dont send any money, meet the gurl first..but allways remeber , a gurl who works on a site have dozendss of guys, the better she looks, the more she have..and a pinoy is allways around...so be wise...
Blink
Touche!
[QUOTE=Blink157]hheehehe xmen,
sich liebt das neckt sich...
[/QUOTE]
Yes, 17k! I guess he wasn't reading ISG! I don't blame the guy for his web page rant, but being the ever inquisitive guy that I am, I would love to hear more of the dirty details.
Blink, nice pic you posted in the photo thread. Does she have a sister!
X
[QUOTE=Blink157]hi guys,
guess you all have fun here on ISG, well, so do I, ehhehehe..
My friend just emailed me this
[url]http://www.timandrona.com/[/url]
check it out.. and to all newbies...take this as a warning from this poor guy..
Tim, if you read this, lets hear ur story here..man you must be pissed as hell.
Blink out[/QUOTE]
Wow..The dude must have suffered a lot to take pain and make a website of it..
The girl is cute ,,,,,hehehe..i would love to get cheated and dumped by her...the karma should balence...
Common, we have done that to soo many girls in PH...its pay back time :D
What goes around comes around...I dont think we are all saints here...Its ok to get shot sometimes in the line we are in..
And its real bad to post the naked picture of the girl who has dumbed you...its all part and parcel of what we do....
Be cool and Chill.....The law of karma just caught up to him...I dont think he would have done this to an American women..who would have sued him for posting naked pictures online.
Respect all women folks especailly filipinas, they are angels for, heartbroken people like us who find refuge in there hearts..dont let this dampen you newbies..filipina girls are the BEST. :)
[QUOTE=Born Loser 5]Respect all women folks especailly filipinas, they are angels for, heartbroken people like us who find refuge in there hearts..dont let this dampen you newbies..filipina girls are the BEST. :)[/QUOTE]I won't go so far as to say they are the best but they damned fun for awhile!
Over the course of my 39 year association with the Philippines there is one constant that I have found to hold true across the board (pro and non-pro alike), they always have a back up plan and unfortunately some times you are Plan A and other times you are Plan B. If you can accept that fact tehn everything will be fine.
I have had the pleasure of watching this girls cam show and I have to say it was pretty good.
We all know that given the opportunity these girls will take every $ they can get. I cant believe this sucker fell for it.
Money cant buy love, and that goes double when you are dealing with a sex worker (i know this from experience). No matter what you do or how much you provide it will never be enough.
I find it amazing that this guy handed over all that money and more fool him. If i catch up with Rona again maybe i will create a website for her so she can educate the world on how to rip off a fool.
Thanks for an interesting perspective BL5,
I have posted many pictures of women, all were either p4p or women pretended to be regular ladies, but who dissed me somehow in a way that made me think that they had a p4p mentality.
What do you think is a valid reason to post pictures?
X
[QUOTE=Born Loser 5]Wow..The dude must have suffered a lot to take pain and make a website of it..
The girl is cute ,,,,,hehehe..i would love to get cheated and dumped by her...the karma should balence...
Common, we have done that to soo many girls in PH...its pay back time :D
What goes around comes around...I dont think we are all saints here...Its ok to get shot sometimes in the line we are in..
And its real bad to post the naked picture of the girl who has dumbed you...its all part and parcel of what we do....
Be cool and Chill.....The law of karma just caught up to him...I dont think he would have done this to an American women..who would have sued him for posting naked pictures online.
Respect all women folks especailly filipinas, they are angels for, heartbroken people like us who find refuge in there hearts..dont let this dampen you newbies..filipina girls are the BEST. :)[/QUOTE]
They don't need you to post a web site since they already have spread the word thru all the net cafe's in the Philippines.
Some girls might be very good hustlers, but it should be obvious...in my case even some normal women have made some awkward attempts at asking for / hinting about money.
The ones who do it askwardly are probably just wondering how their friend have suddenly come into some cash spigot.....which is some dipshit westerner...
You can't blame them. If money grows on trees, many will start to climb the trees.
X
Rereading the next morning and noticed that "askwardly" should be "awkwardly". But askwardly should be a real word!
[QUOTE=AussieOverboard]
I find it amazing that this guy handed over all that money and more fool him. If i catch up with Rona again maybe i will create a website for her so she can educate the world on how to rip off a fool.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=X Man]Members? AV, you have consistently posted inaccurate information and this is no different. I've locked horns with THREE people. Stop believing that all the ISG members are with you.
Here are the three...
1) One fellow speaks his mind and we've disagreed on a few things, but I've learned to respect his passion.
2 & 3) That would be AV and clone Fifty. Between the two of you, I'd be surprised if you can come up with ten useful, accurate field reports that weren't simply a rehash of what someone else wrote earlier. Any request for elaboration is ignored because you actually didn't experience what you are writing about. Notice how strongly Fifty reacted when I asked him to elaborate on his own shopping mall girl hunts. My request was "mindless", he says.
But I have to give you credit AV, no one has posted more about virgins than you. And Fifty, you are the expert on Jools...
Has anyone met this guy AV who claims to live in the Philippines? I don't want any information about him, just would like to hear from one person (other than the clones) who has actually met him and can confirm that he spends time in the Philippines.
BTW, has anyone noticed that if you have a "problem" with Fifty, AV will come out of the woodwork to take a few swings. Likewise, if you have a problem with AV, Fifty is right there defending him.
What a team!
X
My apologies to the other members who are tired of these exchanges. I would promise to ignore the two, but that would just encourage them.[/QUOTE]I have just PM'd a reply to X accepting his offer to stop these kind of posts.
AV
[QUOTE=Amavida]I have just PM'd a reply to X accepting his offer to stop these kind of posts.
AV[/QUOTE]
Yep, I accept AV's offer to cool down, but reserve the right to blast away at any post that I think is wrong or inaccurate. I promise to do so in a polite and positve way..
MY pm post to AV was as follows:
Originally Posted by X Man
Thanks for the pic...they both look great.
I'm surprised you still take potshots at me after all this time. I don't blame you, I was pretty harsh earlier on.
I fly into Manila this month, and will probably go to bohol or Negros.
I don't post much when in Philippines, so this is your chance to mock and ridicule me. That's not a dare...I really dislike the animosity.
Anyway, I hope to come out of the Philippines with some great pictures and great new field reports.
X
[QUOTE=Psdai]I won't go so far as to say they are the best but they damned fun for awhile!
Over the course of my 39 year association with the Philippines there is one constant that I have found to hold true across the board (pro and non-pro alike), they always have a back up plan and unfortunately some times you are Plan A and other times you are Plan B. If you can accept that fact tehn everything will be fine.[/QUOTE]
I agree, but we should also agree that ..most of us who go to Philippines have Plan A, Plan B, Plan C......Plan ..N times :) that our mobile phone can hold the numbers. >>>as you mentioned [I won't go so far as to say they are the best but they damned fun for awhile! ]
I had lots of back up plan..if a girl did not measure upto what i expected of her..i would dump her and go to next.
I'm as guilty as the women are..and the women have the equal rights to dumb me for whatever reason they find it appropriate...
It has to be fair....I'm in the line of things..that i should expect a return that i have given back.
I was only implying that the girl in the picture has every right in heaven and earth to dumb a man.....ask yourself...What gave Men extra rights to only dumb women but not get dumped by women.
The means of which women dumb men is another thing..cos we men usually dumb women after sex..so she has every right to dumb men ...the way she feels good and right...be it money..house...etc
[If you can accept that fact then everything will be fine.] ..I accept it..initially i did not..but the more i engage with women..the more i feel the needs of women are same as men...only the ways of expression are different :)
[QUOTE=X Man]Thanks for an interesting perspective BL5,
I have posted many pictures of women, all were either p4p or women pretended to be regular ladies, but who dissed me somehow in a way that made me think that they had a p4p mentality.
What do you think is a valid reason to post pictures?
X[/QUOTE]
X,
I was doing some reading on the net and came across Aesthetic Realism by Eli Siegel.
It has really opened my eyes..the way i look at sex, women and life in general.
As per Aesthetic Realism
One, Man's greatest, deepest desire is to like the world honestly.
Two, The one way to like the world honestly, not as a conquest of one's own, is to see the world as the aesthetic oneness of opposites.
Three, The greatest danger or temptation of man is to get a false importance or glory from the lessening of things not himself; which lessening is Contempt. Even more briefly,
These three divisions can be described as: One, Liking the world; Two, The opposites; Three, The meaning of contempt.
Its deep at first to read :) but real mind opener and will change the attitude for about the world.....you can do more Google and get some interesting article on Aesthetic Realism.
It will really answers lots of questions that linger our minds.
Regarding the picture you have posted...Its not the picture but the idea behind it as stated above.
If your intention was to be liked by the world and a respect to the nature that women comes from..its all good...but if your idea was to post picture that would make your -SELF feel better but lessen the world around you..then its not good.
Good Luck
Wow! I just checked out the website of the pinay that recieved a free house from the retired guy.
The girl is decent looking by American standards, but not in Asia.
For $17k a man could date a Viet, Thai, or Filipina model/actress.
When I reach retirement age in a few decades I know what to beware of.
Hello,
last monday on my way back to Manila I met some american dude.. he was quite drunk, told me he is a lawyer from US..
We ordered some beer in the fly-the-bus and he told me his story and what he expereinced in AC...He was there to meet those camgurls from abc, acm, sac...he showed me one picture with a quite nice gurl in his hotel room..
I ask him how much he spend on those sites, he told me thousands...(dollares not pesos) His hit ratio, according to him is 50%..Means 50% show up, the rest hide..he told me if they dont show up, I know I be fooled..and I never will chat (spend money in private sessions) on them again..
Well, he has a point..Some other guys infront of us, showed us some photos of gurls he had barfined (1300p)..My neighbour friend got nosy...asking where he can meet those gurls..I told him in Ac, where you just came from ...
We arrived at Manila Swagman hotel and had some beers..When sitting there I saw one gurl I had barfined some weeks ago, gecko bar wettress, she was with somebody else and she look a bit buntis(preggy) to me..I just smiled at her and told my fren that I know her..He got big eyes..where have you met her..I told him again in AC for little money fu..in all night (1300p)
So, there he was..spending enourmous money on camgurls he never met in real, when he met Im sure they show all up with friends and wanted to go shopping or to eat...maybe he got laid also, not sure....if so he would pay much money and cause he was showing interest into some bargurls in ac me or the other guys had screwd all night for little money...maybe he will think about it next time NOT spending to much fu..ing money on those CAMSLUTS!!!!
You cant buy love, what you can buy is a DREAM..when you be in the Philippines YOU will wake up from your dream and see the real world as it is..
Just one story I wanted to add here
Blink
PS I got his email and will tell to join this here either to exchange with other camguys..or just to LEARN a bit :D
Hi again,
I mentioned in my earlier posts before that I add some camgurls on my ym id and we talk from time to time..justdelete another one five minutes ago, cause I cant stand the fact that those camsluts think Im an idiot..
She: I need your help, I wana die
Me: Dont die before we not meet
She: Im sick
Me: lets see a movie, mecury drugs is in the same building
She: I dont like....
Me: Ok lets go home with me and watch a movie there ...
She: ??
Me: :D
She: Im sick..
ME: whats ur sickness?
She: Uti
Me: to much bum2?
She: bye bye
Me. I delete you from my list, you told me u have a pinoy boyfriend, why not ask him to buy you medicine, you can meet me any time, Im here, but I gess you just like to have some of those cyberboyfriends who pay and pay and you will never show up, sorry Im not one of them, meet me if you like, but if you just ask money , stay away from me...
Me : ingats bye bye :D
Im tired of this sh.. and I ask myself how can a matured grown up men fall for those gurls?? They ask your money and thats all they like from you..they dont wana f..ck you, just go the easy way..
I will hear again from her, if no sucker will fall to her lies...and if not..well..I dnt care at all..enough here , di ba?
Blink
I have one that goes by either lookingforlove2004d or philippinesgirl27 which is why I stay invisible on YM. Every time I sign on visible I get a PM from her asking me how I'm doing. The next thing I get is the line "Me so horny send me money for a private room at the cafe." She wants a minimum of 20 USD or 1175 Peso. I've done this once and afterwords she hit me up for more money for her sick child. Now she is with her sister who has a webcam and is still wanting the money. This is a real pain in the ass so I try to avoid her at all cost.
[QUOTE=Blink157]Hi again,
I mentioned in my earlier posts before that I add some camgurls on my ym id and we talk from time to time..justdelete another one five minutes ago, cause I cant stand the fact that those camsluts think Im an idiot..
She: I need your help, I wana die
Me: Dont die before we not meet
She: Im sick
Me: lets see a movie, mecury drugs is in the same building
She: I dont like....
Me: Ok lets go home with me and watch a movie there ...
She: ??
Me: :D
She: Im sick..
ME: whats ur sickness?
She: Uti
Me: to much bum2?
She: bye bye
Me. I delete you from my list, you told me u have a pinoy boyfriend, why not ask him to buy you medicine, you can meet me any time, Im here, but I gess you just like to have some of those cyberboyfriends who pay and pay and you will never show up, sorry Im not one of them, meet me if you like, but if you just ask money , stay away from me...
Me : ingats bye bye :D
Im tired of this sh.. and I ask myself how can a matured grown up men fall for those gurls?? They ask your money and thats all they like from you..they dont wana f..ck you, just go the easy way..
I will hear again from her, if no sucker will fall to her lies...and if not..well..I dnt care at all..enough here , di ba?
Blink[/QUOTE]
So why do camgirls think they deserve more money than a prosti?
Prosti. charges around $30 for a night of sex; camgirl charges $100 for 1 hour webcam session?
[QUOTE=Blink157]Hi again,
I mentioned in my earlier posts before that I add some camgurls on my ym id and we talk from time to time..justdelete another one five minutes ago, cause I cant stand the fact that those camsluts think Im an idiot..
She: I need your help, I wana die
Me: Dont die before we not meet
She: Im sick
Me: lets see a movie, mecury drugs is in the same building
She: I dont like....
Me: Ok lets go home with me and watch a movie there ...
She: ??
Me: :D
She: Im sick..
ME: whats ur sickness?
She: Uti
Me: to much bum2?
She: bye bye
Me. I delete you from my list, you told me u have a pinoy boyfriend, why not ask him to buy you medicine, you can meet me any time, Im here, but I gess you just like to have some of those cyberboyfriends who pay and pay and you will never show up, sorry Im not one of them, meet me if you like, but if you just ask money , stay away from me...
Me : ingats bye bye :D
Im tired of this sh.. and I ask myself how can a matured grown up men fall for those gurls?? They ask your money and thats all they like from you..they dont wana f..ck you, just go the easy way..
I will hear again from her, if no sucker will fall to her lies...and if not..well..I dnt care at all..enough here , di ba?
Blink[/QUOTE]Geez, you wouln't imaging the things these Pinays come up with. I've heard so many crazy stories, like: my brother was run over by car, my family member has cancer/appendicitis, my brother was eaten by a shark, I have hemmorhoids/ herpes I need operation, ASAP.
Now having been to PI and seeing the awful traffic there and sanitation conditions, these things may be true. But it seems like these girls always use the same excuses to ask for more "pera".
Hello again,
to all guys..if she ask for money, she just want your money and thats all...Im talking about first time meeting , either in cam or in person...
Different if you have been together with her for a time and give her money to buy food and for her parents and you would like to keep her for yourself, like im doing now with a ex bargurl from AC..
Last weekend (hoy one day and Im back :D) I sit at the bar at orchid Inn, beside me a dude working on a oil platform ( noy gurls, just guys) and he keep staring at my GF..Quite pretty drunk he had to admit he is here for a couple of days, but didnt get laid yet and all the gurls think he is gay(well he aint) then he says to me, Dude your a lucky guy, with having her,asking if she can get dressed in 2 piece and pose to him at the pool :D....well I told him we have to pass on that now and he should get laid asap while in pussy city...
Xmen, yes she have a sister, 17 years old, guess you have to wait a bit, but she told me she not sexy like her and if she will be ever sexy, well Im the KUYa and I have more rights :D
Blink out for a coffee
[QUOTE=Styles12]So why do camgirls think they deserve more money than a prosti?
Prosti. charges around $30 for a night of sex; camgirl charges $100 for 1 hour webcam session?[/QUOTE]
because guys pay that to them and cause there aint any secrets in the Philippines it will spread around and goes from one hookercamgurl to the other hookercamslut...
Same like koreans give good tip after bum2, easy money caus little sticks, it spreads around..doesnt matter if its true or not, but I guess it is :D
Gurls are allways asking big amounts..yesterday I got a txt from my dancer gf from billboard, asking me to barfine her(yes billboard has barfine) and then we can go sing karaoke etc etc..I txt her back, if you wana see me, come around before or after work, no need to pay barfine at billboard and Im not a singer...
I know her, but she still asking me this shit...why shoul I spend money on that? 3500 barfine which she might get a precentage, maybe 1/3, I doubt they give her 50% cause no customers...So she better off meeting me after work, getting 1500p cause she gourgeous, breakfast and TV and nice place to sleep..why paying the f...in bars, its their mistake asking for phantasy prices....
YOu have to be a man ***** when here, allways remember, they need us, you dont need them, plenty around, pretty gurls evrywhere, you look for a pretty gurl that loves you :)
Blink
[QUOTE=Azmodeus Fl]I have one that goes by either lookingforlove2004d or philippinesgirl27 which is why I stay invisible on YM. Every time I sign on visible I get a PM from her asking me how I'm doing. The next thing I get is the line "Me so horny send me money for a private room at the cafe." She wants a minimum of 20 USD or 1175 Peso. I've done this once and afterwords she hit me up for more money for her sick child. Now she is with her sister who has a webcam and is still wanting the money. This is a real pain in the ass so I try to avoid her at all cost.[/QUOTE]
What website did you meet this woman? Was it worth the 20 you sent her? She is one of the growing numbers of privateers that don't have the wherewithal to join a pay site and are making a living fishing for pesos! If these women get me pissed off, I report them to the website administrator so they get banned but of course they come back with a new ID. (Just like some posters here at ISG)
Btw, if you have Yahoo Messenger 9.0, you can appear permanently invisible to one contact while you are visible to the rest of the people in your list !
[QUOTE=Styles12]So why do camgirls think they deserve more money than a prosti?
Prosti. charges around $30 for a night of sex; camgirl charges $100 for 1 hour webcam session?[/QUOTE]
Well Mr. Styles, there is explanation. Out of that $100 per hour, some camgirls only take home as low as 20% of the gross. They have to split the proceeds with the website administrators, her manager (if she has one but in most cases they do), and her ate. There is also the leasing of equipment, room, board and food. Compound the fact that it is a highly illegal business. So in the end, only a small percentage of girls can make good money because there is also a quota set by the website and the managers meaning if they don't produce, they're out.
I love CYBER and the fun of tracking down your flame. One girl I met from Mindanao has had some ups and downs. She first started chatting away to me from her home or from her nearby cafe and we got on just fine. I was always teasing her and saying she should be a model blah blah. But she was right up for the chat and the fun but when she eventually went to college or was it uni. Well its the same. We lost contact.
But soon enough she popped up after several months and we started again. Her digs were a small room. Perhaps 10 foot square. But she had a PC and cam and eventually she showed me some of her feminine charms slowly but surely. I sent her some money to boost her college expenses. And I was happy.
A few months later, after intermittent cyber dates, I heard that she was "carrying child". I lost my cool and thought that she had let me down and had been unfaithful! How ridiculous! I then tried to encourage her to abort as the father was not interested. But of course this is simply not allowed in Philippines.
Well we lost contact again after she had had her child and was getting back to 'normal' and was now settled in a well paid but stressful job.
So I persuaded her again to show me her wares. This is absolutely the finest cyber experience ever. The chance to chat with someone who has a great personality yet someone I may never be able to meet in person although would dearly love to. She is now a single mother. Having a stressful but well paid job. What will happen next is the big question mark. Will she be able to find a Filipino man to look after her and her child? Will she struggle on supported by family & friends? Will she meet a rich older man from chat? Who knows.
But I do know that I am going to stay chatting with her.
Blink--always enjoy your reports.
I just wanted to mention that "kuya" is my favorite Tagalog word.
JC
Hi,
It comes up over and over again: Filipinas and money. Basically, requests for money at all times in all forms should be expected.
We are lucky. The pressure to give money is actually less for foreigners. We can easily say "no". My asawa constantly sends money to the Philippines for her family. I don't mind because she works hard for it here in the US, and she loves her family. It is her choice. But it is truly amazing. Any time that any expense comes up the first response in a millisecond is to ask for money from relatives in the US. Anything: schooling, feast, beauty pageant, repairs to house, accidents, festival, dead chicken. And from all relatives no matter how distant.- and they've got plenty! When she visits the Philippines, she avoids visiting some relatives because she knows.
As has been mentioned previously, because of the strong obligation to family (which is admirable), there is never any question about sending money.
(by the way, asawa is correct. But she it totally into girls so I have no trouble in this hobby. Her father was openly a philanderer and her family pretty much just teased him about it. Basically as long as I stay loyal to home there is not problem. Besides there are few chicks that I can take for more than a week, so messing around with bar girls with or without her is not a problem; I ain't hanging with them for conversation or for too long)
These constant requests for money are not surprising at all. I believe the average wage in RP is $2 per day. If they get $50 from you.- Wow (remember that they only get a small cut of barfines etc). As you may have noticed, food etc is cheaper there but not correspondingly so. Gas or electricity, the same. OK texting is cheaper Conservatively, let's say Americans make $100 per day.- many much much more (100 per day is about 30K a year). It seems that basic Physics () would predict the flow of money unidirectionally.
Met a fun bargirl years ago. She had a full University education and had been in a regular job making $6 per day. Why bother. Another bargirl that my asawa and I barfined (from EDSA) told my asawa (they tell her much more) that she worked hard to be bar fined every night. She had a child out of wedlock, and she was there to earn money, that's it. She had no other choice (child support from the father.- ha ha) but she embraced her fate. They don't make money from dancing.
Overseas Filipino Workers (OFW) are a major source of cash for the Philippines. I once dated a nice enough Filipino in the US. She was 100% tortured by her endless obligations to send money. And in fact she had worked in Saudi (like many Filipinos) which is no darn picnic. Correspondingly OFW are treated like quasi royalty: a special line at the airport, billboards welcoming them home, special sections in the audience on TV shows (e. G. Wowowee)
OK, this was a bit of a rant, but I wanted to give some further insight into the psychology.
Be happy that you can get gorgeous willing girls for a reasonable tip, compared to here in the US ($100 would get nasty serious slag here.- confirmed disease). If I have a good time, I happily pay. Even if I have an OK time, I pay. We are the lucky ones.- we can pay or not.
OK whatever your preference, have fun with Filipinas.
J
I used to think the girls not having abortions was cos of their religious beliefs, but on my last visit I chatted to quite a few people about it and it appears that quite often it's simply the cost and difficulty of having a safe abortion.
The govt and the church have pushed abortions to the back street where it's not exactly Western standards and still costs a bit. And to have an abortion at a hospital costs a fortune relative to local incomes.
So a lot of the girls might actually have had an abortion, but don't have the mental support or funds to be able to have it easily or safely.
I find it really sad to see so many very young girls having kids. Even a lot of the waitresses seem to have had kids when they were 16. It makes their lives even more difficult.
[QUOTE=Styles12]So why do camgirls think they deserve more money than a prosti?
Prosti. charges around $30 for a night of sex; camgirl charges $100 for 1 hour webcam session?[/QUOTE]
Because there are idiots living in their mothers' basement who never go anywhere willing to to pay.
made me laugh ur last post firewalker, thanks you liked my post big fun..sitting her at the bar while typing this..not much to add what is said allready..just only this, if you like to wank off at cybergurls, why not, but just dont fall in love, like taking her to private an spend enourmous money not to pressure her to get naked..etc....gurls laugh about that fact, believe me..I been thru this before, first cam gurl I met was 3 month pregnant from the guy she met before and to me she allways played the innocent...I didnt realize it until she went to the hospital and got abortion, later I knew the whole story, her pinoy bf left her, so she took medicine to get rid of it..at her bed her parents still keep denying the fact she had an abortion, I remember her dad told me if I gave her something wrong to eat..yeah..my titi :D
As expereinced all this first hand Im actually thinking to write a book about this...she(my first cyberlove) was so smart, when meeting another member, he was a doctor, she put on my big shirt, cause he would know she was pregnant....very smart ass..but not so smart today, having 2 bags from her pinoy lazy ass bf from angeles city..I doubt she is happy...but thats the way she wanted it and Im over it..aside from me she had also other bf....but lucky me, I didnt spend much money on her, unlike other guys did...
Be careful of single mom, her pinoy bf might just in the next room , watching the baby while playing cards with his other buddies :D
Blink out
[QUOTE=FireWalker]Because there are idiots living in their mothers' basement who never go anywhere willing to to pay.[/QUOTE]Well I've dated both and the cam girls seem like more typical western young girls/teens. The hookers seemed a little baliw (crazy).
I have been playing around with DIA in anticipation of my first trip to the Philippines. It sounds like paradise to me, although I can only spend a few days there (a month or two seems entirely warranted, but that may have to wait). I was thinking to spend my time divided between a single "non-pro", selected from DIA, and the bountiful number of P4P ladies whom one can meet all over the city, as documented in abundance on this board. If the non-pro and I get along, I plan to take her with me on my business trip to Taiwan (where the P4P situation is dismal unless one speaks Chinese).
The problem is that the girls on DIA are, according to what is written here, a bit flaky. In particular, the 18 year old girls may actually be 15, and none of them seem to have a passport. I have several beautiful girls who explicitly promise me sex in return for my friendship. But, I have no idea if they are of age or are likely to travel with me if I like them.
Thus, I ask a general question to the men with DIA experience. How does one separate the wheat from the chaff? What questions can I ask a girl to determine if she is able to travel with me and if she will actually fulfill her pledge to fuck me blind (assuming she likes me, of course)? These are basic questions, for sure. But, my dreams of taking a girl with me to Taiwan are more likely to be realized if I get some advice from the pros.
Many thanks.
[QUOTE=Forest]I have been playing around with DIA in anticipation of my first trip to the Philippines. It sounds like paradise to me, although I can only spend a few days there (a month or two seems entirely warranted, but that may have to wait). I was thinking to spend my time divided between a single "non-pro", selected from DIA, and the bountiful number of P4P ladies whom one can meet all over the city, as documented in abundance on this board. If the non-pro and I get along, I plan to take her with me on my business trip to Taiwan (where the P4P situation is dismal unless one speaks Chinese).
The problem is that the girls on DIA are, according to what is written here, a bit flaky. In particular, the 18 year old girls may actually be 15, and none of them seem to have a passport. I have several beautiful girls who explicitly promise me sex in return for my friendship. But, I have no idea if they are of age or are likely to travel with me if I like them.
Thus, I ask a general question to the men with DIA experience. How does one separate the wheat from the chaff? What questions can I ask a girl to determine if she is able to travel with me and if she will actually fulfill her pledge to fuck me blind (assuming she likes me, of course)? These are basic questions, for sure. But, my dreams of taking a girl with me to Taiwan are more likely to be realized if I get some advice from the pros.
Many thanks.[/QUOTE]If you only have a few days, I'd reccomend hitting LA Cafe. Take it from me, I went to Phils solely to meet a gal from DAI who I thought we would get along great, and except for the sex she provided me (and it wasn't even all that), was an unmitigated disaster. A few days is just not long enough to know if she's cool enough to take with you on a biz trip, but I'm sure there are exceptions.
Just be carefull with the DIA girls. Do not send any money for food, internet or any reason. 90% of them are trying to scam money from you. Of the other 10% - 90% are looking for marriage and a foreign husband. Remaining are fair game.
Those who want to give you sex maybe in the minority. They will talk nicely on the internet but may never meet you even if you send the ticket. Sometimes they want to meet along with their family.
Although I had a nice experience with two girls who came and stayed with me, it is hard to generalise. I had sent money to one girl who never came. But the money was only $100, just for the one way ticket.
None of them generally have passports and if you mention that they would want you to send money for that. Once again do not send any money before you meet them.
I doubt very much they will make good travelling companions. These girls come from very poor families and atleast the ones I had did not like to go to nice restaurents or go sightseeing. Besides unless you buy them nice clothes, they do not seem to have good ones.
What I have found in Philippines is that even the normal girls have no qualms about asking for money.
Compared to that I had a Thai GF who made a good travelling companion. We went to cambodia, vietnam and northern Thailand and Laos and Myanmar.
She never asked for money and dressed very well. We enjoyed each other's company very much. Ofcourse I gave her lots of gifts.
Dia.
10% are ladyboys which equates to 90% of all the stunners you see.
About another 20% are scammers look for suckers to give them money for their schooling/sick mother or bus fare (10x the actual cost) to come see you in another city or cell phone they have had to put in hock, lost or had been stolen.
About 50% are genuine (usually poor) girls looking to hook up with a (as they see it) rich foreigner to fulfil their fantasy of falling in love with and have their lives changed by their night in shiny armour. Some of which have more than one boy friend playing the odds that one may come through. And about 50% are nieve enough to believe that most guys really love them over the internet and will live happily ever after. Then again half the men out there believe that all the girls a good little catholic virgins who are loyal to them.
And Id say about 10% are working girls looing for a foreign boyfriend to ease their woes.
And the last 10% miscellaneous.
As for whos what and how to know. Well that’s a matter of my years of experience.
A few tips.
An average scammer/oppertunist will indicate her financial deficit /need to you with in the first 3 to 5 chats with you. A good one might play you over a longer period of time but drain you properly.
A lady boy tends to be a stunner; tends to use the word "DEAR"; often doesn’t have web cam so you can see her; sometimes doesn’t have a phone so you can’t pick the deeper rougher voice and almost never says that she wants children in her/his profile description (says I'll tell you later/ undecided).
Good girl virgins are target for arsehole mongers. They are usually nieve and are farly ripe for the picking to a westerner who sweeps them off there feet. Not a good move guys. Even as mongers we have to live with ourselves and hurting people emotionally is worse than hurting a person physically. Please respect their innocence and spread good karma.
Other tips I'm too exhausted to post now Pm me if you want more.
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Hi to all,
this is what you should do. If you on a vacation. You go and f..ck ur brains out in those p4p locations in the Philippines who allready mention here many times..
Before you fly here, you check DIA gurls. Make sure you know where they are. If they from cebu and you in manila, its no gud :D
So , collect adress etc ...
Dont send any money.Make sure u get their cp numbers. when adding their name, add info from where you know them..I live here and belive me its hard not to mix up names and numbers :D
Meet those gurls in public places first..so if you dont like them , you can disappear real quick. Meet them on times you not busy and where its hard to get some p4p pussy..morning time, afternoon etc..
Meet them on locations near your mongering place. Dont spend ur valuable time travling from A to B for nothing....
As I mentioned, I live here and Im also on DIa and my expereinces is like this, either dogs contact me..or hookers..a few seems to be office gurls, but they know I m just wana meet them to screw them..as of now I did meet ZERO..with this said you should know whats expecting you.
if they dont txt me back, they dont have interest, or they busy :D
I guess if you take that advise, you cant go wrong and have a pleasant stay :)
Blink
[QUOTE=Blink157]Hello,
last monday on my way back to Manila I met some american dude.. he was quite drunk, told me he is a lawyer from US..
We ordered some beer in the fly-the-bus and he told me his story and what he expereinced in AC...He was there to meet those camgurls from abc, acm, sac...he showed me one picture with a quite nice gurl in his hotel room..
I ask him how much he spend on those sites, he told me thousands...(dollares not pesos) His hit ratio, according to him is 50%..Means 50% show up, the rest hide..he told me if they dont show up, I know I be fooled..and I never will chat (spend money in private sessions) on them again..
Well, he has a point..Some other guys infront of us, showed us some photos of gurls he had barfined (1300p)..My neighbour friend got nosy...asking where he can meet those gurls..I told him in Ac, where you just came from ...
We arrived at Manila Swagman hotel and had some beers..When sitting there I saw one gurl I had barfined some weeks ago, gecko bar wettress, she was with somebody else and she look a bit buntis(preggy) to me..I just smiled at her and told my fren that I know her..He got big eyes..where have you met her..I told him again in AC for little money fu..in all night (1300p)
So, there he was..spending enourmous money on camgurls he never met in real, when he met Im sure they show all up with friends and wanted to go shopping or to eat...maybe he got laid also, not sure....if so he would pay much money and cause he was showing interest into some bargurls in ac me or the other guys had screwd all night for little money...maybe he will think about it next time NOT spending to much fu..ing money on those CAMSLUTS!!!!
You cant buy love, what you can buy is a DREAM..when you be in the Philippines YOU will wake up from your dream and see the real world as it is..
Just one story I wanted to add here
Blink
PS I got his email and will tell to join this here either to exchange with other camguys..or just to LEARN a bit :D[/QUOTE]
It is kinda like seeing Mr. Big Spender in Doll's House barfine a "featured dancer" for 3000 pesos, knowing I wasn't interested in barfining her the week before at a Perimeter Bar for 1000 pesos!
You should come with me sometime out to the Perimeter Bars and you can spend the 300 peso difference in barfines on my Sam Mig Lights! LOL
[QUOTE=Dacian]Dia.
Good girl virgins are target for arsehole mongers. They are usually nieve and are farly ripe for the picking to a westerner who sweeps them off there feet. Not a good move guys. Even as mongers we have to live with ourselves and hurting people emotionally is worse than hurting a person physically. Please respect their innocence and spread good karma.[/quote]Although all of the things written here are true I like this one the best although I have been approached by the cam girls, as well as the sick mother need to buy books etc. there are a lot of genuine girls that want a good guy bf, so spread the good karma and dont screw them over as then were no better then the scammers that we all complain about on here.
Wizard
So have many BM's had any good experiences using DIA to meet girls and eventually have their way with them?
[QUOTE=Jiggy]So have many BM's had any good experiences using DIA to meet girls and eventually have their way with them?[/QUOTE]
Yes many of us had, scroll down and you will see various FRs from an number of us. But beware as there are many scammers and you need Plan A, B, C, D.....as some will not show at all, some will be late very late and thus ruin future potential fun times
These DIA chats continue to amaze and amuse: check out the following.
xdentx: Hi, blah, blah, blah, nice guy etc...Please have a look at my profile, and send me a note if you're interested. thanks....ps liked your pic a lot...as well as your profile
her: 25,
hi.. sorry if it took me so long to reply to your message. I've been busy this past few months. But I'm willing to talk to people now. Thanks.
xdentx: hi...happy to hear from you...long time no problem...whenever you feel like it...So my travel agent has suggested that I stay in Makati, Ermita, or the Malate area. Do you know those districts and is one better than the other. I've never been before, so need some help In fact NEED LOTS OF HELP! LOL by the way...nice height at 5'6"
a lot of the ladies here seem to be 5', which is short in my country....but I guess height doesn't really matter...especially when we're laying down...hehehe
her:
if you'll be comin here i'd rather suggest that you stay in my place... kiding.. so, you have plans of coming over here in the phil.? if you want to chat here's my ym id: (censored)
xdentx: stay in your place....
wouldn't that be nice...hehehe
what part of manila are you in?
you live with frliends or relatives?
sorry i don't have ym yet....afraid it might take up too much time...but maybe i'll get it....
so keep in touch..i don't get to manila until september...too far off..
take care... xdentx: by the way...if i stayed at your place...what would the rent be? hehehe
her,
i live with mom but its cool with her...
it would be really nice if you'll come here and stay in my place cause ill give you the warmest filipino welcome.. hehe
please get ym ASAP so we cud talk...
no rent at all.. i just want you here..
take care..mwah
From CB - and I thought a man who liked 2 women was normal, a monger (IMHO he is a good guy :D) ..not a two timing jerk..
She is cute as well - shame but I said no to her request for a chat as I cant really lead her on much and also why bother when no chance of a threesome :D
CB TEXT
my name is Gracely. I will be of age in August 2008. I am a very mature woman for my age and seriously looking for a life time mate. I have only been looking for the last month or so and thought I had found him but he turned out to be a two timing jerk. He wanted 2 women at the same time. Well if you are like him don�t bother to respond to this message. I want a man who is loyal, responsible and treat me like I am the only woman in his life. I never want to be number two again only number one and I will treat him the same way. My English is only fair for I am trying hard to learn it now as fast as I can. If interested in me please feel free to send me a message and I will be happy to return an answer.
I know their first language is not English and it is easy to get a cheap laugh at their expense, but sometimes you get a 'ad' from a girl that is so daft that you can't resist a poke. Little-angel from Manila advertises her massage service and writes:
Attention Pleased:
those who are want and have interested to ask me 'bout my massage theraphy
pleased read this
here's my especial massage theraphy;
1. Bed ridden or dead body
2. paralized body
3. high blood or low blood
4. head ache or migraine
5. sinusities
6. jewlock
7. long dry cough and cold
8. back pain
9. riumatizm, artrities or gout
10. going to be lock tendons
this is a little bet Info 'bout my proffession
to do, with more question bout it.
for all of u here.
??? Lovely - cheered up a rainy Sunday in Manila - DIA is such fun:D GH
Even the ones that say they want a long term loving relationship will give you their ym id's and within about a day will ask you into a private chat room for a show at a price.
As I am not a cam chat kind of guy, I just play along, and then they give me the price $50 for a show.
Well in one case the girl had her cam on and I was looking at her as she was typing her story, offering her services.
But my reply was pretty good, honey but for that price I can get a girl from LA Cafe for a long time and fuck her all night long and all morning why would I give you $50 just to watch you.
The look on her face was priceless Ha ha ha the connection was terminated and she blocked me, there really must be alot of guys living in their mothers basements in the States or Europe or Australia that actually pay this.
So far i have been blocked by 3 girls, I wonder if i can make it to 100.
Wizard
[QUOTE=Victorian]I find it really sad to see so many very young girls having kids. Even a lot of the waitresses seem to have had kids when they were 16. It makes their lives even more difficult.[/QUOTE] Having visited here for many years and now living here I hear the same story over and over again. Due to religious belief, parents do not teach their kids about safe sex, and I don't mean STDs.
It is a never ending cycle. Girls get a Filipino boyfriend (first love) and they have sex one TIME and get pregnant because they didn't know that they could get pregnant, then the Filipino boyfriend flies the coop. They is a big push now to teach sex education and safe sex, but the president, along with the Catholic church is against it. IMHO this is where Thailand and the Philippines differ. You don't see the poverty in Thailand that you see in the Philippines because the Philippines have no population controls. They are so many people and only so many jobs to be had. It is sad to think that if you want to work in Jollibee's that you have to be a college graduate. I have some girls that work in the malls and as promo girls and they make around 200P a day. How can a family live on that?
The other issue is the rich are getting richer and the poor are getting poorer. I know some Filipino's making a decent wage of 80-90K Pesos a month and they will have a house girl and pay her 1000P per month and she has no other choice, unless if she wants to work in the bar.
I have some real good bargirls who I visit and they tried to leave the bar, but they couldn't get a job paying anything to live on after making a couple of thousand pesos a night. They got used to the money and also they liked the party life.
Just my 2 pesos,
Robb
In addition condoms and birth control pills are against the law. What is in the country is strictly black market or smuggled in. This is another argument for the separation of church and state.
[QUOTE=Robbaf]Having visited here for many years and now living here I hear the same story over and over again. Due to religious belief, parents do not teach their kids about safe sex, and I don't mean STDs.
It is a never ending cycle. Girls get a Filipino boyfriend (first love) and they have sex one TIME and get pregnant because they didn't know that they could get pregnant, then the Filipino boyfriend flies the coop. They is a big push now to teach sex education and safe sex, but the president, along with the Catholic church is against it. IMHO this is where Thailand and the Philippines differ. You don't see the poverty in Thailand that you see in the Philippines because the Philippines have no population controls. They are so many people and only so many jobs to be had. It is sad to think that if you want to work in Jollibee's that you have to be a college graduate. I have some girls that work in the malls and as promo girls and they make around 200P a day. How can a family live on that?
The other issue is the rich are getting richer and the poor are getting poorer. I know some Filipino's making a decent wage of 80-90K Pesos a month and they will have a house girl and pay her 1000P per month and she has no other choice, unless if she wants to work in the bar.
I have some real good bargirls who I visit and they tried to leave the bar, but they couldn't get a job paying anything to live on after making a couple of thousand pesos a night. They got used to the money and also they liked the party life.
Just my 2 pesos,
Robb[/QUOTE]
Can someone give me some philippon or Asian chat websites?
[QUOTE=Azmodeus Fl]In addition condoms and birth control pills are against the law. What is in the country is strictly black market or smuggled in. This is another argument for the separation of church and state.[/QUOTE]
May want to check your facts. They sell them at watson's drug store and 7-11 just to name a few.
They aren't against the law, Pinay's just don't like using them.
[QUOTE=Hobby Knob]May want to check your facts. They sell them at watson's drug store and 7-11 just to name a few.
They aren't against the law, Pinay's just don't like using them.[/QUOTE]
Exactly, and nobody will raise an eybrow when you buy 'em ( but maybe ask for your cell number :D )
And...condom ads are even on TV now!
Makes you wonder if the poster ever visited the Philippines...
[QUOTE=Belgium Lover]Can someone give me some philippon or Asian chat websites?[/QUOTE]
RTTF I can't believe that question was even posted. Take a half hour of your time and RTTF. Ever heard of Google??
PLC f/k/a Slippery
[QUOTE=Pute Nut]
And...condom ads are even on TV now!
[/QUOTE]
I forgot about that, but yes there were quite a few commercials on TV. LOL
[QUOTE=Belgium Lover]Can someone give me some philippon or Asian chat websites?[/QUOTE]They all went the way of the dinosaur, they're extinct.
Sorry bro.
did i meet 2 normal girls on dia.
joined 2 months in anticipation of trip to cebu. shortlisted 4. one brought mum along and another was ****. sent them away after a nice lunch.
the next one was interesting. just finished college (communications). she spoke like a college girl. saw sights with me and actually explained some history. i took her somewhere very nice for lunch. she described her dreams of living abroad and was in fact actively planning to travel to singapore. she was a pretty girl, 22 and in almost any way i can tell, not a scammer. i sent a box of high end chocolates to her at her work place and was immediately rewarded by a lovely message on txt.
another one graduated in accountancy and agreed to meet me during weekends. seems also very normal; also wanted to leave philippines. i know some accountancy and she is trained. when i borached the subject of sonme fun, she smiled and said only on my wedding day.
both appear normal.
So this is a question for all you computer guys out there. You know how after you meet a chick on DIA or FH or something they all want to go on YM? Well, after you accept them and they accept you, for some reason these girls can tell when I am online, even though I sign in as invisable. Not only that, one girl could tell not only was I chatting with several at once, she told me how many, I. E. "I know you talking with 3 girls right now". "Are you busy? " etc. One scammer (who would not show a face pic, nice ass pic though) came on my YM and asked me to accept her, I stated I did not know who she was, and did not respond to 'no face pic' girls. So, she sent me another pic to download. Well, it was the same pic, and all of a sudden my computer started to run real slow. Slow response time, typing took a pause to post, things just generally not right after downloading the pic. So, I assumed she (or he) was draining information off my computer with a trojan. She/he also wanted to keep me online for as long as possible when I said I was getting off after no face pic.
So guys, how is this possible? Am I paranoid? One chick just knows when I am online, even though I am invisable. She also knows when I am talking with someone, even though I am invisable. Is there a program out there that hacks YM? She works in a IT office (so she says). I have been hacked before so I am always careful now.
Carmex
Yep Mboy,
agree with you on that, either they wana bang you right away or they like to get married with you...I prefer the ones who like to bang, if they gud looking..but some of them are dogs, some of them I find strange and the others are ladyboys which aint my cup of tea either :D
Im in contact to some office chicks, dentists , nurse students..lets see if and where and when Im able to meet them up. as of now my impression is, that they know if a guy lives here, aint much interested of the bullsh..t stories, parents meetings, cams sex LOL...and/or sending money prior meetings..and I think gurls from visayas like Cebu are more reliable. I allways have a great respect of Cebuanas, they more pretty, and more liberal in sex, not running around the whole time with a towel wrapped aorund their body when beeing on the beach or beeing with you :D....I guess province gurls are the best, but because Im now residing either manila or angeles city area I have to stick to those :D, cant bang them all, but they keeping me busy for the next 100 years or so .. :)
Blink
I met someone last week who was using birth control pills in Manila. Legal or not, they are apparently available.
And, on the topic of vitamins, pacs of four (Cialis) can be had for 250. Street sellers will ask for something outrageous.
X
[QUOTE=Azmodeus Fl]In addition condoms and birth control pills are against the law. What is in the country is strictly black market or smuggled in. This is another argument for the separation of church and state.[/QUOTE]
Hmmm, I can't help wondering how you "broached" the subject. I tend not to do much talking, I just start with light touching and ratchet it as far as it will go (assuming I'm attracted to the girl).
I used to use Cherry blossoms and still have many emails addresses and phone numbers. My last trip I met two women from my old lists and both did the deed within 24 hours.
One was a bit older, but a successful businesswoman. Her maid did my laundry! The other was 21 and gave it up after three hours. Of course I have my share of disappointments too.
X
[QUOTE=ManonsanBoy]
When I borached the subject of sonme fun, she smiled and said only on my wedding day.
Both appear normal.[/QUOTE]
I am not an old hand as far as PH is concerned.
The girls on DIA are a mixed bunch. I think the hookers will take anyone age wise. The real ones have more narrow age range.
One left a deep impression on me; I got caught up with her dreams. I offered her money (around 1000 USD) which was REFUSED............ONLY if I marry her!
She is 20. I am in no position to marry a 20 year old. I am over 50; all I wanted to do was ...............but no, only if I marry her.
I gave up and bought her some dresses (less than 100 USD)
[QUOTE=X Man]I met someone last week who was using birth control pills in Manila. Legal or not, they are apparently available.
[/QUOTE]
Yes, of course they are available.
BC pills are legal, approved by BFAD and readily available at Mercury, Manson etc at about P 120-130 for a month's supply. No prescription needed.
Day-after pill is not legally available, but can be "assembled" if the need arises.
[QUOTE=Carmex]So this is a question for all you computer guys out there. You know how after you meet a chick on DIA or FH or something they all want to go on YM? Well, after you accept them and they accept you, for some reason these girls can tell when I am online, even though I sign in as invisable. Not only that, one girl could tell not only was I chatting with several at once, she told me how many, I. E. "I know you talking with 3 girls right now". "Are you busy? " etc. One scammer (who would not show a face pic, nice ass pic though) came on my YM and asked me to accept her, I stated I did not know who she was, and did not respond to 'no face pic' girls. So, she sent me another pic to download. Well, it was the same pic, and all of a sudden my computer started to run real slow. Slow response time, typing took a pause to post, things just generally not right after downloading the pic. So, I assumed she (or he) was draining information off my computer with a trojan. She/he also wanted to keep me online for as long as possible when I said I was getting off after no face pic.
So guys, how is this possible? Am I paranoid? One chick just knows when I am online, even though I am invisable. She also knows when I am talking with someone, even though I am invisable. Is there a program out there that hacks YM? She works in a IT office (so she says). I have been hacked before so I am always careful now.
Carmex[/QUOTE]
Am not an IT man Carmex but am sure this was partly answered a while back
For me, I am invisible but I chat with 2-3 at a time (once I tried 6 - impossible to keep up as they are so fast)
When you have more than 1 girl online and you are typing to 1 of them, the bottom of their YM message box will show that you are typing a message. If it does not come through then they will ask the questions you have been asked. I doubt she know the number of girls maybe bluff but perhaps a more educated IT guy answer that question
If asked, I always say am typing work emails which most of the time is OK and does the trick
As for being slow, the PCs many girls use in cafes are full of viruses etc so beware of links suddenly sent to you - never open unless you are sure
I send them links (porno and bikinis sites only) so they are safe and normally have the right impact :D
Carmex, be very careful not to download anything from yahoo messenger...and from the girls..they are all virus and trojans...if u have kaspersky or any other anit virus.as soon as you download..the message will pop up saying the virus name and the anti virus will automatically disinfect the file.
Even if you are there are 10's of addin for yahoo which will show if ur really offline or online...yahlight software is one...yahoo messenger is full of bugs and it could be easily hacked once the hacker puts small peice of software into ur system.
just accept jpg file extension only and scan it with anito virus all the files u download.
[QUOTE=Carmex]for some reason these girls can tell when I am online, even though I sign in as invisable. Not only that, one girl could tell not only was I chatting with several at once, she told me how many, I. E. "I know you talking with 3 girls right now". "Are you busy? " etc.
So guys, how is this possible? Am I paranoid? One chick just knows when I am online, even though I am invisable. She also knows when I am talking with someone, even though I am invisable. Is there a program out there that hacks YM? She works in a IT office (so she says). I have been hacked before so I am always careful now.
Carmex[/QUOTE]
I had a girl yell me this about a year ago. I didn't believe her so I did a google search and found a few programs online that tell you who is online even if they are invisible. Also it does say if they are engaged in a chat.
I downloaded a couple of them and did my own testing. (whith 2 computers and 2 YM accounts)
There were different types of settings to use, one worked remarkably well, another gave false readings.
So anyway, yes there are programs out there to do this.
[QUOTE=Carmex]So guys, how is this possible? Am I paranoid? One chick just knows when I am online, even though I am invisable.[/QUOTE]
Since your messenger list and address book are syncronized, someone can check their address book to see if you are online even though you appear invisible in messenger. This also goes for other Yahoo web sites.
You need to make sure you have disabled the privacy setting that allows other Yahoo web sites to show when you are online!
[QUOTE=Mattrick]Since your messenger list and address book are syncronized, someone can check their address book to see if you are online even though you appear invisible in messenger. This also goes for other Yahoo web sites.
You need to make sure you have disabled the privacy setting that allows other Yahoo web sites to show when you are online![/QUOTE]OK, did that. Now lets see if that works! Two at one time (at least online that is) is too much for me. Three? forget about it. hehehhe
Thanks for the info.
Carmex
Did anyone ever find out if this was a man? She showed up on my interest list in FH.
Blink, you ever nail this pinay? You said you lost her number, but that does not sound like you. heheheh.
[QUOTE=Dildo Danny]I'm supposed to be meeting with this one next month. Anyone have any luck with her? Met her on FH and she's also very busy on YM. I assume she is a pro but possibly some kind of scam.[/QUOTE]
hi,
she possibly works on acm , abc etc..paid cam sites, so when she meet you up, if ever...she will come along with all her friends for free food, shopping etc..:D be prepared, hope you have a back up plan and not only come for her...dont spend money before meeting ;-)
Blink
[QUOTE=Carmex]Did anyone ever find out if this was a man? She showed up on my interest list in FH.
Blink, you ever nail this pinay? You said you lost her number, but that does not sound like you. heheheh.[/QUOTE]
hi,
as of now IM still straight and I guess it wont change the next 100 years...in other words, no i didnt nail her and I never will, she/he looks to suspect to me and I doubt she is a real gurl..and because she is somewhere from the visayas according to her dia profile I wont meet her anyway this year cause Im busy in metro manila and angeles city :D
As of now, I havent meet any from the so called DIA gurls, maybe this will likeley change this weekend when in ac, some psycho gurl name weng txt me and shout at me why i dont reply to her imediately, well...does the bone come to the dog? :D
With no high regards to the pampanga hookers and resident I dont expect much from those gurls living there..for me they all nuts, but with some beers it kills the time...
Why so serious?? (joker..dark knight)
Blink
[QUOTE=Dildo Danny]I'm supposed to be meeting with this one next month. Anyone have any luck with her? Met her on FH and she's also very busy on YM. I assume she is a pro but possibly some kind of scam.[/QUOTE]
I got an "interested" from her about two weeks ago on FH. She did not reply to my response. I responded out of curiousity as I suspected her to be a scammer. She had several pics on her profile page, all displaying those lovely hooters. She's probably out there trolling for money one way or another.
[QUOTE=Puerto La Cruz]I got an "interested" from her about two weeks ago on FH. She did not reply to my response. I responded out of curiousity as I suspected her to be a scammer. She had several pics on her profile page, all displaying those lovely hooters. She's probably out there trolling for money one way or another.[/QUOTE]
Same for me a while back, asked for cash eventually - I was patient and could see it coming but was fun
Scammer through and through, using her lovely rack to lure us mongers into her honey trap :D But can we resist her rack?;)
I agree you may meet here but she will have family or friends (maybe a ladyboy) in tow. If you meet her and she has one friend, steer her back to hotel and get the deed done as if not you maybe too tired after you have been shopping etc or too poor.
BTW. met a DIA girl who brought 4 family memebers (2 of whom were obnoxiuos) and I just sat at restaurant, then went to toilet and then did not cime back. She knew the rules as we had discussed but she thought they were flexible :(
Another girl brought her friend (both ACM girls) and I had a great time and limited outlay, no food a few itemns of clothes a great afternoon in the Oxford Suites :)
But still would love see her rack.....as long as it does not cost :)
WRog, I'd love to hear more of this story. How were they obnoxious and how in hell did you find an escape route?
[QUOTE=Wicked Roger]
BTW. met a DIA girl who brought 4 family memebers (2 of whom were obnoxiuos) and I just sat at restaurant, then went to toilet and then did not cime back. She knew the rules as we had discussed but she thought they were flexible :(
:)[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Pute Nut]Exactly, and nobody will raise an eybrow when you buy 'em ( but maybe ask for your cell number :D )
And...condom ads are even on TV now!
Makes you wonder if the poster ever visited the Philippines...[/QUOTE]
Every other ad on the English programs are for Frenzy condoms.
Stay away from Trust condoms, the local brand.
Has anyone checked out the dating sites scammers rogues gallery published at [url]http://www.facts-worldwide.com/datewiki/search_profiles.php[/url] and mainly concentrating on Pinays and to a lesser extent Thai's.
Its a bit naughty actually as guys seem to post details of girls who have not actually scammed them yet but for various reasons have given them cause to be suspicious or are just checking out a girl to see if she has any 'history'. Many are from men who appear remarkably naive with unrealistic aspirations and have probably never been anywhere near the Philippines in their lives. But it just illustrates the point that for every regular Philippine monger (a few on this board) 'dangling his worm' on these sites there must be 20 guys who probably think the Philippines is a South Sea paradise or something and would be in for a rude awakening if they were to visit and see the reality! GH
[QUOTE=Bob Bowie]Stay away from Trust condoms, the local brand.[/QUOTE]
Absolutely, use those "local" (actually Made in Malaysia) only as a last resort, they are cheap crap designed to be affordable for filipinos (as in "better than nothing").
There are good imported condoms for sale at places like Watsons, Manson, Mercury etc.. but better bring your own supply with the brand/type that you are comfortable with.
[QUOTE=Wicked Roger]Same for me a while back, asked for cash eventually - I was patient and could see it coming but was fun
Scammer through and through, using her lovely rack to lure us mongers into her honey trap :D But can we resist her rack?;)
I agree you may meet here but she will have family or friends (maybe a ladyboy) in tow. If you meet her and she has one friend, steer her back to hotel and get the deed done as if not you maybe too tired after you have been shopping etc or too poor.
BTW. met a DIA girl who brought 4 family memebers (2 of whom were obnoxiuos) and I just sat at restaurant, then went to toilet and then did not cime back. She knew the rules as we had discussed but she thought they were flexible
Another girl brought her friend (both ACM girls) and I had a great time and limited outlay, no food a few itemns of clothes a great afternoon in the Oxford Suites
But still would love see her rack.....as long as it does not cost :)[/QUOTE]
have you paid the bill before? I can imagine their face when you left them alone..I did the same with a gurl I was meetin on acm many years ago, mayor mistake I alowed her to pick me up from the airport. She comes with her mom and her chubby sis..and her moms bf a cab driver who charged me 50 euro for the pickup. we went to the singing cooks in pasay, then her mom brought her daughter to my hotel ( nice service) but I saw more hotties on the wayx to my room as my new asawa and after 2 days I decide to leave to angeles city. I wait for the moment she went out of my hotel to bring a friend for shopping..that was enough for me and I run away..She folowed me and checkd many hotel and ask if I stay there :D, but of course I informed the staff that Im invisble for anybody ...sent all my emails back with a short comment like LIAR!!!
I check later on her, she is married now to an US guy and happily spending his money now..
Blink
[QUOTE=Gamahucher]Has anyone checked out the dating sites scammers rogues gallery published at [url]http://www.facts-worldwide.com/datewiki/search_profiles.php[/url] and mainly concentrating on Pinays and to a lesser extent Thai's.
Its a bit naughty actually as guys seem to post details of girls who have not actually scammed them yet but for various reasons have given them cause to be suspicious or are just checking out a girl to see if she has any 'history'. Many are from men who appear remarkably naive with unrealistic aspirations and have probably never been anywhere near the Philippines in their lives. But it just illustrates the point that for every regular Philippine monger (a few on this board) 'dangling his worm' on these sites there must be 20 guys who probably think the Philippines is a South Sea paradise or something and would be in for a rude awakening if they were to visit and see the reality! GH[/QUOTE]Thanks for making my day, LOL,
Have to kill time in my office and thats the things who made me laugh, aside from DIA of course. Actually I know some of those gurls and if I have somthing to add I submit my comments, on the other side, some guys really made me laugh with their posts. How many times I have to tell here that those gurls are young and they wana have fun, means they also fuck around, have sugardaddys on their site and making money with this, either as a side income or as their main job. Its ok to kill time and chat to them, bt don't send them money, they don't love you because you send them money, they just love your money: D
I just hook up one of my camgurl fren which is my friend only, no sex, with some young guy I met in the hotel. They fucked their brains out, the guy thanked me of course, cause there wasnt any money mentioned (I'm also not a pimp LOL) and after that she went to the pc and talked to her "asawa" LOL, some young guy from the army she wanted to meet up end of the year. He got suspicious so she told me, cause her fone was out. Yeah and of course he has her ym id PIN, needless to say she has a lot of id's LOL.
Blink
PS they say what you want to hear, your special, your not like the other guys, thats just business. Blablablabla.
[QUOTE=Carmex]Did anyone ever find out if this was a man? She showed up on my interest list in FH.
Blink, you ever nail this pinay? You said you lost her number, but that does not sound like you. heheheh.[/QUOTE][url]http://www.facts-worldwide.com/datewiki/10_3_upload_evidences_view.php?lady_id=50120[/url]
Look up this, again, the fotos really make me confuse, thanks to the guy he post her ym id and fone number (local number) I add her again and since she told him she lives in Pasig I try to get in touch with her and see whats going on and who will show up. Again I'm very sceptic with this one.
But actually nice fotos she have. But something tells me. Hmm, lets see,
Keep in touch and updated.
Blink
Same girl as Blink posted tried to scam me with her web cam, but not all that cunning.
Wizard
[QUOTE=X Man]WRog, I'd love to hear more of this story. How were they obnoxious and how in hell did you find an escape route?[/QUOTE]
Hi XM
Obnoxiuos? Well was spitting in the mall on the floor, now I know people spit etc but in the mall..... on the floor
Then of course they were loud, too loud, in and out of shops, dragging into places where I did not want to go and then trying to get me buy all sorts of things....which I did not
Then there was the restaurant, making scenes, demeaning the waitress (maybe as they were with a white guy so felt bolder who knows?), ordering so much food I could fed half the mall ...
Completely unable to speak with the girl due to her obnoxious sister interferring, being very much in my face, spitting etc....
Too many more but enough.
To escape I just went to the toilet, came out and walked stright past and continued did not look back
And Blink I did not pay the bill, I had not ordered anything
Cruel maybe, ungentlemanly probably but I had enough.
[QUOTE=Wicked Roger]Hi XM
Obnoxiuos? Well was spitting in the mall on the floor, now I know people spit etc but in the mall..... on the floor
Then of course they were loud, too loud, in and out of shops, dragging into places where I did not want to go and then trying to get me buy all sorts of things....which I did not
Then there was the restaurant, making scenes, demeaning the waitress (maybe as they were with a white guy so felt bolder who knows?), ordering so much food I could fed half the mall ...
Completely unable to speak with the girl due to her obnoxious sister interferring, being very much in my face, spitting etc....
Too many more but enough.
To escape I just went to the toilet, came out and walked stright past and continued did not look back
And Blink I did not pay the bill, I had not ordered anything
Cruel maybe, ungentlemanly probably but I had enough.[/QUOTE]
Nah Dub R what you did was right. They always try to party on somebody's else tab. The gall?
CB girl, Cavite, 32 years old, C00781440....
Headline says Hi I am...and I am ENGAGED
Her text says
Finally i found him..! i am very happy now with my fiancee i love him and i will love him til the rest of my life..So good luck to all!
But...she send me an email saying she would love to chat and how sexy she was...promsied cam show all nice things so maybe her man ias away and she feels lonely
Hope they have a happy marriage :D
She must have been cute, because I would have bailed out at the first spit! Well, I would have liked to, anyway. I guess you were waiting for the opportune moment to escape. Wow, thanks for the story.
X
[QUOTE=Wicked Roger]Hi XM
Obnoxiuos? Well was spitting in the mall on the floor, now I know people spit etc but in the mall..... on the floor
Then of course they were loud, too loud, in and out of shops, dragging into places where I did not want to go and then trying to get me buy all sorts of things....which I did not
Then there was the restaurant, making scenes, demeaning the waitress (maybe as they were with a white guy so felt bolder who knows?), ordering so much food I could fed half the mall ...
Completely unable to speak with the girl due to her obnoxious sister interferring, being very much in my face, spitting etc....
Too many more but enough.
To escape I just went to the toilet, came out and walked stright past and continued did not look back
And Blink I did not pay the bill, I had not ordered anything
Cruel maybe, ungentlemanly probably but I had enough.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=X Man]She must have been cute, because I would have bailed out at the first spit! Well, I would have liked to, anyway. I guess you were waiting for the opportune moment to escape. Wow, thanks for the story.
X[/QUOTE]
She was cute and I tried to be patient hoping that is was just a bad dream or would get better (like some of those really bad TV shows and movies) but it did not. I think she was somewhat embarassed by her family's behaviour but as the youngest she demurred to the older brethen. Shame aas she was cute
I happen to like spitters!!! Hahahahahahahaha
I prefer swollowers Hahahahaha
Wizard
yes you did right WR,
I propbly would order some more food , eat and then walk away LOL...and dont think ur cruel, just dont care, cause thats what I learned here in the Philippines..they dont care :D
Blink
[QUOTE=Blink157]yes you did right WR,
I propbly would order some more food , eat and then walk away LOL...and dont think ur cruel, just dont care, cause thats what I learned here in the Philippines..they dont care :D
Blink[/QUOTE]
Thanks Blink
Am a normnal caring guy, good hearted etc (well ask anyone in ISG who knows me!) but this was taking the p**s to the extreme. And I thought sod it
I did get some SMS messages from the girl and she was sort of apologetic for the family behaviour but one has to move on if the siutation is not happy. And as you know, there are plenty of alternatives in Manila :D
And yes Wizard I prefer swallowers as well - in fact all the girls I take know that I expect a swallow not a spit :)
Me too, I just couldn't resist the joke.
Chat room and pen pals was created for you to share info about same.
Good or bad?
I've never been to the Philippines, but I have a two week trip booked. I've been corresponding with a whole lot of DIA girls. Some are obviously p4p, some not so obvious, and a very few are truly seeking a husband. My question: I prefer overnights in my hotel room with the girl, when chemistry is good. If I hook up with a p4p gal, while staying at City Garden Makati, what is the reasonable range to pay for a dinner to morning date? 2000 pesos or more? I'm sure there are multiple answers to this question.
[QUOTE=Xdentx] I'm sure there are multiple answers to this question.[/QUOTE]
You are right Xdent the answer to your question is multiple choice. Depends whether you take your girl from a bar or are comfortable with a FL hooker from the street or mall. This further subdivides to what type of bar you are taking from ranging from rip off rates at an average Burgos Street bar, the more reasonable EDSA complex rates or the non-barfine FL scene at LA Cafe and the like. So LT rates can vary from P1-2.5T for a LA cafe/street hooker, P3.5-4.5T (including barfine) for an EDSA girl and P4T to sky's the limit for a Burgos Bar Wench. Then there are the FL's from the Escort Sites such as Escorttown. Here prices start at about P4T LT.
Unfortunately quality and service does not always equate to price so you can get a nice looking lass with good attitude for P1.5T LT from LA Cafe and a P6T and up stunning starfish from a Burgos bar or an online site. Thats why I usually, these days, stick to FLs. GH
Thanks Gamahucher. Guess I could have been more clear in my question, as I was thinking of the DIA gals, who may have a wide range of responses to being offered money for an all nighter. For example, if a DIA gal mentions in the morning afterglow that she needs to buy books for her sister...then the LA CAfe fee structure might best apply? I guess...bottom line...is "up to me". By the way, LA Cafe and clerks in the mall stores are at the top of my list...after I've gone thru my DIA contacts. Thanks for the comprehensive comments on the possible fees.
[QUOTE=Xdentx]Thanks Gamahucher. Guess I could have been more clear in my question, as I was thinking of the DIA gals, who may have a wide range of responses to being offered money for an all nighter. For example, if a DIA gal mentions in the morning afterglow that she needs to buy books for her sister...then the LA CAfe fee structure might best apply? I guess...bottom line...is "up to me". By the way, LA Cafe and clerks in the mall stores are at the top of my list...after I've gone thru my DIA contacts. Thanks for the comprehensive comments on the possible fees.[/QUOTE]
Got you. You will find lots of info on DIA and CB contacts here. I have personally hooked up with 3 girls met through DIA. I have no interest in the 'breaky hearty' scene on dating sites so have tailored my profile to make it specific that I am interested only in casual encounters with a probable sexual content. This seems to have filtered out many (but not all) of the timewasters and husband seekers. Then its to YM to determine whether the girl in question is serious (or more correctly , not serious) and will put out. This has resulted in the 3 positive hits who I met and all of which resulted in a trip to a short time hotel (once to a friends condo). In 2 cases, money or gifts (I gave one an old cp) was pre-discussed so I knew exactly what was required. And yes the expected amount is roughly what I would pay for a ST LA Cafe girl. The third girl was a horny 32 year old who just liked sex and did not expect any financial recompense although I did give her P500 taxi money.
This might seem a poor return for a 3 month trawl on DIA, but I have a fiercely selective radar in place and, after all, I am a married man ;) GH
Fellow mongers,
I have had reasonable success with DIA and CB, but all women have been single, widowed, divorced etc.
I thought that for my next trip, I might experiment with married women who just want a friendly fuck buddy type arrangement.
But DIA and CB do not have search options, nor profile options, to enable me to search for married women.
Does anyone know of dating sites for Thailand and the Philippines where I can search for married women?
Gangles.
[QUOTE=Gangles]Fellow mongers,
I have had reasonable success with DIA and CB, but all women have been single, widowed, divorced etc.
I thought that for my next trip, I might experiment with married women who just want a friendly fuck buddy type arrangement.
But DIA and CB do not have search options, nor profile options, to enable me to search for married women.
Does anyone know of dating sites for Thailand and the Philippines where I can search for married women?
Gangles.[/QUOTE]
Try AFF you get all sorts there even married ones who partners like to watch (if you are into that sort of thing of course ;))
Guys I been doing the internet dating thing each time I go to phi. You simply have to say that your interested in DATING only NOT MARRIAGE MINDED. From there on it up to the gal if she like it or not. Your a foreinger Hello, unless they are a hooker you are a wanted man for most. There are enough lady to find that will be interested in dating you. Buy them clothes and a bag of rice for there family things like that. Wake up they love foreinger men over there and then you wanting to pay them on top off that. This is Philippines dudes not like your country were getting a date takes months and months. In 2 weeks or less on any dating sites with filipinas you will have there cell numbers etc etc. Make sure you have 4 lined up in case some are a no show. Will they have sex with you? Flirt with them when you chatting them say things like I wonder if your a good kisser or do you have some sexy pictures etc etc don't be too dirty be flirty and you will see by there responses if they are willing to dance with you in bed or not.
I'm a newbie at that.
Could you enlighten me on where I can log on DIA and CB?
Any help is appreciated.
When I first asked Jackson to start this thread, I used Cherry Blossom (CB) and it was easy to refer to/ identify /check out gals 'cause you could access their profile by using the acct. no. -- without a paid membership
You can no longer do that without a paid membership, and I have to wonder if someone at CB was reading ISG.
It kind of took the fun out of it for me. Lately, people are writing about DatingInAsia.
RTFF and you'll get get some ideas about strategy, etc.
X
[QUOTE=Leche]I'm a newbie at that.
Could you enlighten me on where I can log on DIA and CB?
Any help is appreciated.[/QUOTE]
All,
Create a new account, then you can check the complete profile.I did it it because with my old one I had the same problem. And its better so you are looking "fresh" for the girls there.
Best regards, anle
[QUOTE=Gamahucher]I have no interest in the 'breaky hearty' scene on dating sites so have tailored my profile to make it specific that I am interested only in casual encounters with a probable sexual content.
This might seem a poor return for a 3 month trawl on DIA, but I have a fiercely selective radar in place and, after all, I am a married man ;) GH[/QUOTE]
I am single and I am not looking for a wife, but if I find one, so be it. In my ad on DIA I stated this and I got tired of meeting ladies and them saying SEX, I am not that kind of lady. I just laugh when I tell them you are 25, with a kid and you aren't that kind of lady:D
So, I changed my ad, it now states, "I am not looking for sex, if I was looking for sex, I would just go to the bar, pay for it and have no drama. So, if you want to see me, please understand that sex is part of a relationship" and I have receive at least 5 - 10 messages a day saying, I like your profile. Since I changed it, I have received no less then 10 ladies who got naked on the web cam during the first chat. When they ask if I am god fearing, I always say yes, that I always say grace before I eat that the "Y":D I also ask if they are at cafe, or home. I try to stick to the ones at home. Sometimes a cafe lady only signs on once a week, in a packed cafe, with 10 people looking at you chatting with her:( You may think that this is BS, but I promise you that it is the truth.
Robb
After having returned from 20 days in the "field", in which I met 3 internet chat mates from FH. All turned out to be duds except for the last one. Things were great, but after fucking her for about 3 days, I was tired of the same old, same old. So, now I have decided that there is no way I can get married, or even stay with the same girl for too long. During my stay, I also got tired of the bar girl scene in AC after about 2 days.
Yes, fucking bar girls is fun. Sometimes its business and sometimes you have a great time. With so many girls down there, why even bother with the internet? I guess if I lived there I would use the net, DIA, to meet chicks. But conversing from the USA/UK? Eventually the money question is going to come up, no doubt. And guys, they really only want your money. I met so many chicks down there with "chatmates" and I was having sex with them.
Basically, soon after meeting these girls, money came up. I. E. Lets go shopping, lets go to the supermarket, let go to the pool, bohol, boracay, on and on.
So, from now on, when I go to PI, I will just go and see what happens.
Carmex
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Ok, maybe this is a dumb question but is "birth control" really illgegal in the Phils? You can buy condoms there, right? ;)
Also, I'll be staying at City State Hotel...is there legit cialis available there nearby? I mean at a pharmacy, etc..not from the street folks.
Thanks
[QUOTE=Redfield10]Ok, maybe this is a dumb question but is "birth control" really illgegal in the Phils? You can buy condoms there, right? ;)
Also, I'll be staying at City State Hotel...is there legit cialis available there nearby? I mean at a pharmacy, etc..not from the street folks.
Thanks[/QUOTE]
The goverment and church may say it is and try and discourage condoms are available but read earlier in this thread as the Philippine made ones are poor quality so best bring your own.
As for the second part of your FR best leave that to more knowledgable persons
C and V pills - never buy from the street vendors despite how attractive the price maybe.
Walk out the front door. Turn left. Cross the street. Turn left and walk about 30 yards. There's a Mercury Pharmacy there. Total trip is about 150 yards.
On DIA 90% girls, after some time of chating, ask money.
Loosing time on DIA.
This girl sent me a message (first message) on DIA at lunch yesterday that she wanted to YM and that she had her cam in her bed room. I took a chance and added her to my YM last night and sure enough, within 5 minutes of chatting she was topless and within 10 minutes, she was naked and playing with her pussy. Not a stunner, a little bit on the large size, but for webcam fun, she is a sure bet.
Senior members who have DIA account, pm me for her profile name.
Robb
It does have more than its fair share of ladyboys and scammers BUT there are plenty that will NOT ask for money (so soon anyway LOL).
RobAF: How do you do the screen capture on YM? I have actually taken digital pictures of the monitor which came out almost as clear as the actual screen captures but would like to learn how you do that. Thanks.
I was STUNNED to learn that birth control pills can be purchased WITHOUT PRESCRIPTION (unlike Viagra) in the Philippines. You may need to ask around a bit. The ones I've seen are made in Thailand.
Agreed that condom quality in SE Asia sucks so you are WAY better off bringing them from home ESPECIALLY if you need a magnum size.
[QUOTE=Changmai]On DIA 90% girls, after some time of chating, ask money.
Loosing time on DIA.[/QUOTE]I have found DIA to be a good resource. I am currently fucking 3 girls i met there, and each of them was a near virgin and has not asked for money. From others there has been some hinting, but it is easily deflected. Given the HUGE difference in opportunity i can forgive a little hinting.
Of the girls that i am currently 'seeing' i have given one $200 for her teeth, another $100 for her family's 'delapidated' house, another $100 for her family, another $50 because i couldn't meet with her and i had promised to reimburse her for coming to see me. another several used cell phones. Each of these girls was sincerely grateful and I was happy to help them out at little cost to me. Each of them has repeatedly thanked me for the help and still wants to meet me.
OK, but here's the biggy. I met this girl that i really like. Eventually she declared that she loved me, and we ended up in bed repeatedly. Exquisite. An island princess with perfect mocha skin and an exotic look. I spontaneously offered to get her braces because she needed them so badly. Totally my idea. She had not even considered it because of the cost and discomfort. Well, now she's undergoing excruciating pain for full upper and lower braces, several extractions and many fillings. (No, i haven't been scammed. She has sent me clinical photos. Pretty ghastly.) The cost is probably the equivalent of several year's pay for her. $1500. But i'm happy to do it. She's bright, sincere, energetic, admirable. This will help her for all of her life. And like i said, i really like her. And i get wonderful love letters from her several times each week. Pretty gratifying for an old fart like me.
Enough.
Be discriminating. You can find anything you want on DIA.
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I was chattin up on Yahoo! Messenger the other day and noticed a gal who I have not talked to in a long time from DAI was online. She quickly I'm'ed me and we chatted a little bit- very cute and sexy, 22-23 from QC. I got a few more pics from her and it was all good.
She then asked if I was in the Philippines, and so I decided to roll with it and told her I was in Makati (I'm not in phils, just usa for now). Her English appeared to be ok, not the best. I then told her that we should meet up and she quickly agreed. She then said if it was ok to bring a friend, and I said sure no problem. She said wow and said the friend she was bringing was gay and asked if that was ok. Not sure if I liked that idea, so I tried to get some info and asked her if he was her manager and her response was that he was a bit older and helped her out. I prodded her if he wanted to be compensated in some way, but of course I didn't say hey I'll pay him pesos to bang you. It seemed that the gay dude, at least in her reasoning, wanted to go find another gay guy at the bar.
Anyways, I've read many times a gal will bring her friend or cousin. Or whatever, but I've never heard of anyone wanting to bring a gay guy along.
Not sure what the motive is, but would something like this, if I were really in the phils, be one to avoid?
[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano]I was chattin up on Yahoo! Messenger the other day and noticed a gal who I have not talked to in a long time from DAI was online. She quickly I'm'ed me and we chatted a little bit- very cute and sexy, 22-23 from QC. I got a few more pics from her and it was all good.
She then asked if I was in the Philippines, and so I decided to roll with it and told her I was in Makati (I'm not in phils, just usa for now). Her English appeared to be ok, not the best. I then told her that we should meet up and she quickly agreed. She then said if it was ok to bring a friend, and I said sure no problem. She said wow and said the friend she was bringing was gay and asked if that was ok. Not sure if I liked that idea, so I tried to get some info and asked her if he was her manager and her response was that he was a bit older and helped her out. I prodded her if he wanted to be compensated in some way, but of course I didn't say hey I'll pay him pesos to bang you. It seemed that the gay dude, at least in her reasoning, wanted to go find another gay guy at the bar.
Anyways, I've read many times a gal will bring her friend or cousin. Or whatever, but I've never heard of anyone wanting to bring a gay guy along.
Not sure what the motive is, but would something like this, if I were really in the phils, be one to avoid?[/QUOTE]Dont worry too much about that; most girls have a gay friend - they feel safe with them. Also there is a reduced llikelyhood of you deciding he is a better proposition than the girl you are supposed to be meeting and fucking off with him.