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the traveler
i would imagine they are referring to your apparent involvement with **** women/girls. that is one thing some people always steered very clear of. that is the core of the problem some people have with you, i think.
traveller, a **** is someone who targets all kids below the age of 18 years(or 16 depending on the country). that is the generally accepted rule by which we live. what you are saying is that someone who targets 13 - 14 years olds is not a ****. that is an incorrect assumption. and if ever you were to indulge in this sort of activity, you'd be risking a very long jail term. :(
sainter
nope, you got me wrong. these were just examples.
a google search reveals the definition of a **** as "a person which is sexually attracted predominantly by preadolescent children."
the american psychiatric association defines ****philia as "a **** is a person who over at least a 6 month period has recurrent, intense sexually arousing fantasies, sexual urges, or behaviors involving sexual activity with a prepubescent child or children (age 13 years or younger)."
i have none of the above mentioned attributes and a 16 or 17yr old who is working as a hooker by her own choice and is lying about her age can't be called preadolescent or prepubescent. nevertheless, i do not target ****d girls, but everybody of us is running into them from time to time.
have fun
skinless
thanks for the hint :) but bil only tries to detract from his obviously unsocial comments! therefore i kept on track and did not fall for it like freeler :( (sorry man)
the whole thing started about bil's cold hearted and ugly comment about donations to an orphanage! this had nothing to do with the fact that i ran - like everybody else in this forum does from time to time - into some ****d girls. you and freeler might be the only exceptions since both of you are preferring old tarts.
if i would have placed the pics in question without giving their real age, nobody would have doubt it. i could easily have said that they are 18, 19 or 20yrs old, it's just too hard to rate them. if anybody claims that he never had an ****d girl, then he is just lying. maybe some people do not know cause they do not care and never ask about their age or just give shit. i asked and they lied about it, i just found out after the fact when i put some money into their purse and saw their id. there is no way not to get cheated by them. even an id might be faked or lend from a friend or relative. so all people who blame me for not lying about it should be very careful to do so. they probably had ****d girls as well.
anyway, we are talking about 16 and 17yr old prostitutes and i posted those pics - besides many others with legal aged 20+yrs girls - as a warning for others so that they can stay away from trouble with the thai authorities. calling me a **** is just adding to bil's long record of flaming and of course, i find it quite offending.
have fun
guys,
this discussion about "****" and ****s thing is getting old. it is impossible to point fingers at anyone in here (i.e. traveler). making accusations without proof makes no sense. for all we know traveler could have taken those pictures of those "****" girls and never had sex with them and posted them in here for whatever reason.
if there are any ****s in here i have this to say: you are a sad fucker.
move on guys.
juice
nope, that would be an iraqi weapon of mass destruction :d
i'm with juice on this one -- enough already. traveler, i'm reasonably certain i've managed to steer clear of the ****, but it's mostly because i tend to back away if i've the least bit of doubt, and because i frankly prefer women at least in their twenties. but your caution is certainly valid, and a lot of guys here who've talked about doing 18-year-olds are certainly basing that on either what they were told or a potentially faked id. we all know that there are numerous places who have and still do hire ****d workers, so it's one of the things you've got to be careful about in los.
all,
thanks to jackson for deleting the_traveller's false accusation against me!
there is a way to definitely avoid 'accidently' going with **** children: ask for their id.
no id no go!
why would you want to go with people who look like they are children anyway?
the_traveller wrote (02-10-04 21:31, last edited by the_traveler on 02-10-04 at 22:46):
"i just found out after the fact when i put some money into their purse and saw their id."
there is no excuse to 'accidently' go with ****d kids and to find out about it the next morning when you find their id.
means you didn't ask for it!
that is pretty strange for a person who travelled to and in thailand for 20 years and speaks the language very well!
thnx
Freeler,
I saw past Traveller's b.s. a long time ago. He is in no way close to what he portrays himself to be. His actions, however suit him to a T. He is still trying his best to explain his obvious mistakes, lack of comprehension of the english language, and modus operandi. Get ready for another lengthy, and lame excuse for his documented behaviour.
I hope that we can go at least a week on the Thai board without flames. I guess I must be dreaming. Come on guys, make an effort. Peace. :)
traveller,
these are your words:
"the whole thing started about bil's cold hearted and ugly comment about donations to an orphanage! this had nothing to do with the fact that i ran - like everybody else in this forum does from time to time - into some ****d girls."
again, joe zop's charity is not an orphanage, you dodo. (a dodo is a bird) look it up, or ask your english teacher. (you should fire her by the way). your apology is accepted. if correcting your bumbling use of the english language is flaming you then i am guilty. next time ask for i.d. to avoid being convicted of having sex with ****d girls. a better idea is to keep your youngies- pics private. you opened up a can a worms and noone believes your little stories/explanations. (when you open up a can of worms, they get all over, out of control)
btw, i quoted you so you could not edit your statement.
have a nice day in school :d
guys,
it is now time to stop this stupid flaming war. there is no added value to anybody reading this board and it could even discourage some people to post what the board is all about: information and opinion about tg and the hobby in los. should this nonsense continue, i would urge jackson to enforce a cease-fire in the way he will deem most appropriate.
regarding traveller, whom i met in person a while ago, it is obvious that he has a pretty good opinion of himself. but to be fair, most of that opinion could be seen as rather justified. he actually is and does most of what he wrote about (the chopper, the thai language skill etc.).
maybe he would be better inspired to refrain from being frank and open about himself and deprive us of his well-informed insight of thainess ?
one should keep in mind that in some national cultures, it is accepted to talk about oneself in a matter-of-fact way that could be perceived as bragging in some other cultures such as the us culture that is dominant in this board for example.
as to mastery of the english language, there should be an elementary courtesy extended to those who take the trouble to post relevant and useful information in a language other than their own. as the saying goes " never make fun of someone speaking with an accent. he probably speaks more languages than you do".
as for doing **** girls, the whole debate is way out of proportion. it is certainly wise to check a tg id before rather than after doing the deed, if only for legal reasons. farangs are only tolerated in los, and it is bad karma indeed for us to be on the wrong side of the law over there.
nonetheless, tgs who make themselves available in the trade to farangs usually do so most willingly, and with at least silent consent of their family. should one of them be a few months **** is not the end of the world.
myself, i fail to see why a 17 year old tg would be attractive. i favor the gfi treatment, and slightly more mature ladies (say 21-25) are way more apt at making me happy.
Bravo, Seydlitz -- dead on!
freeler
i was never accusing you of taking ****d girls, i said young !
i asked for their ids but they lied about it, saying they forgot it in the room, gave to sister or whatever.
no bad feelings man.
bil
you still do not understand what i say. again, i did not talk about joe zop's charity, i was talking about the orphanage in naklua which i mentioned in my very first post. can i make it more clear ?
you blamed me that english isn't my native tongue but you just proved again that your comprehension of the english language isn't as good as pretended (even worse, cause you seem to be of us origin) or that you aren't able to understand at all even if someone explains it to you in detail more than once. your mind is just too occupied with flaming instead of reading carefully.
at least i do not lie about any mistakes i might have done without intention. i bet that both of us target the same kind of girls but one of us is lying if he has to admit that he was fooled or did wrong.
to all
i apologize to all other members of this forum that i didn't stop that stupid discussion long before and responded to bil.
i won't do it anymore.
Freeler,
It think it's unfair that you go crying to Jackson to have Traveller's post removed then, post your own accusations against him. That's not playing on a level field. If you feel so strongly about his flames, a simple delete from Jackson would suffice rather than you throwing a few punches after your opponent has his hands tied behing his back.
Time to move on. :)