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Just to get the Siem Reap forum going although I know there is a lot of information under the General threads. I was in Siem Reap over a year ago so some of this is a little old.
Siem Reap is a great place to combine a visit to ankor in the day for some culture and a girl or two at night. There seemed to be three options in Siem Reap.
1) A straight taxi rank - maybe more for the locals, won't speak too much english and are probably Vietnamese
2) A couple of Thailand style beer bars down by the bridge
3) The disco's with freelancers.
The quality can be a bit variable but I found siem reap a really easy and convenient way to meet ladies. In some ways it is better than Phenom Phen. More compact and open although the qantity is not the same.
Over to the more recent visitors to add more up to date info on the above options.
The Summit
I was in Siem Reap a few weeks ago visiting Angkor. In general, I found the Cambodian women quite attractive--more so even than Thai women. I was staying at the Angkor Village hotel, which didn't seem very *****-friendly, so I didn't go looking for the freelancer scene.
I asked a tuk-tuk driver where I could find some action and he recommended a couple of massage parlors. Eventually went to Sok San Palace, which he told me was good but quite expensive. They had an impressive fishbowl, with 40-50 women, all fairly attractive, although not too many stunners. The men who ran the place wanted 50 dollars (US) for the massage, and I didn't feel like bargaining, so I paid upfront and picked out a cutie. The rooms were quite nice (for Cambodia), with a large separate bathroom and shower. Short massage, and then I started pulling her clothes off...no BJ, but nice FS with condom, which was a good fucking thing, since when I pulled out, it turned out she was on her period and there was blood all over the place.
I don't know about you guys, but Cambodia is the last place in the whole fucking world next to maybe Haiti and Sub-Saharan Africa where you want a *****'s blood on you (according to the World Health Organization in 2002, the HIV rate among female sex workers in Cambodia was 30%). Anyway, she seemed as surprised as me to see the blood and we immediately went to the bathroom and cleaned up. So that was my Cambodia whoring experience--would've been great otherwise.
Went to the Son Lak Palace and was very disappointed. The fish bowl has about 30 girls with either red or blue badges. Only the blue badges can do the oil massage which limited the choice to 3. I picked a cute one and headed to the room. The room had a bed and a massage table. The bath room was not very clean and I probably came out dirtier than when I entered. Shower was on my own. The massage was a little better than terrible. After massage I would not get her to do anything. I paid the $20 and left.
$50 for ST in Cambodia? RU Insane? In PP that would pay for a foursome (you and 3 girls) for ALL NIGHT.
Hi,
I will be in SR for two nights in late August. Any recommendations? If you need any info on the scene in KL PM me or check out some of the postings in Malaysia.
I travel to Siem Reap several times per year, so i know the scene pretty well. There are many options to find girls, although finding stunners can be difficult.
Easiest and safest option: get a reliable english speaking moto driver or taxi and ask him to take you to the massage places. there are at least 3 decent sized ones around with about 20 - 50 girls each. i remember at least two of them have the display outside in the courtyard on benches. Price here is about 20 - 25 usd /night, to be paid in advance to the papasan. That is long time to early or late morning. Make sure to get his mobile number just in case. No tips necessary to the girl in the morning, but of course appreciated.
Girls are Viet or Khmer, many barely 18, others more seasoned. Come early for variety. It is also possible to have ST in one of the rooms, but never found that tempting.
Do not go to Sok San, this place is a rip off.
Girls are nothing special, rooms are deplorable and the attitude of everybody there really sucks.
As for hotels, i took girls without any problems in any hotel i stayed, incl Sofitel.
I will travel to Siem Reap in 3 month - it is my first time in Cambodia.
I will stay in the hotel "Khemara Angkor Hotel", does anyone known this hotel? Are there any problems to take a girl up to the room? Lady-Charge?
Are there Discos with sexy freelancers there, name location?
Are there nice and clean GoGo-Clubs or Nightclubs like in Thailand there?
Thank you in advance.
Turbo Carl,
Siem Riep: three or four fishbowls.I did not like the quality.
There is a big disco with the name "Martini".Same name as the well know disco/pub in Phnom Penh.
Every taxidriver will know this place.
In the Martini is a mix: girls with friends but a lot of pro's.
Just sit down and wait.within a few minutes they will approach you.
If you see a girl at the dancefloor that you like, wait untill she is seated.If seated without a man, good chance she is available.
System is the same as everywhere: mamasan calls the price.
US$ 20-30 a night.
Next to that, I could not find a lot of attractive places.
Enjoy and report.
Any hotel suggestion in the US$15-20 range, in SR?
Thanks.
At the Sofitel in Siem Reap, I recommend the traditional Thai massage if you want great massage and the oil massage if you want extra service.
Arlogu,
I stay at the Sofitel several times a year but would never have assumed that extras would be available there in the health club. Please elaborate and tell us re what services at what price. Also, did you have in room massage or go to the spa?
I never had any problems taking any girls into the Sofitel. Love that walk through the long hall, by the restaurant, over the open deck with a hot little spinner in tow and all the male tourists staring with their tongues hanging out of their mouth, while they wait for their wife to come out of the toilet and drag them off to the souvenir shop to spend money on them. Try it before 9 pm, more audience, more fun.
Can anyone suggest a girl-friendly hotel in Siem Reap for around US$40/- a night. Will be visiting in the first week of September with a friend to see the Angkor complex.
Fusch
There are usually a few good-to-go girls hanging around Zanzibar, a small hole-in-the-wall bar near the center of town. Most of the inexpensive hotels and guest houses are GF. The larger and more expensive hotels are generally not GF in order to protect their business with the tour groups. I stayed at the Ivy guesthouse ($25 US) in the middle of town center. It is GF but loud until the bar downstairs closes.
Travel Report
Follows from the CAMBODIA / PHNOM PENH section.
Siem Reap:
Hotel: Mandalay Inn
Price: US$ 15. Breakfast not included.
GF?: Yes at all.
Notes: Ok, good hotel good position. Only problem is no Frigo Bar in room and the breakfast not included, but the owner Mr Maung is a good guy.
Day 1:
Went to Martini discopub. Full of beer girl, but good selection of working girls with a mamasan.
Had a 25 y.o. beautiful khmer girl, US$25 LT (but you can bargain). Good oral skills, BBBJCIM. Good experience.
Day 2:
Whent to the "Angkor What?" Bar and to the Temple bar, but no action at all. Too tired for the night.
Day 3:
Went to the Zanzy Bar, a small girl bar just ten meters south from my hotel. Good selection, while a little pushy. Had a 23 y.o. khmer girl, US$ 20 LT. Good experience.
It follows in the THAILAND / BANGKOK section.
Where is the best place to get a ST outside of your hotel and way from a traveling companion! Any hotel recommendations? I'm not usually interested in the hotel massage w/extras. I want a thailand styly soapy w/ bbbj and sex/ w/comdom etc!
Soi ****, the girls I met at Zanzibar and Martinis all had connections at nearby guest houses for ST rooms. The rooms were cheap, but I ended up taking them back to my hotel. If you can sneak off for a brew, I think the girls you meet will be able to find a room within a block or two.
Looking for a fish bowl massage place in SR. Anything in that style. I'm not much into wandering down some unknown alley with a hooker looking for some unknown room
siem reap can be fun!
i came overland from thailand - very fuckin rough. ankor wat is nice - you can score a somewhat regular girl there if you try.
there is a disco right over the bridge over the river running through town - close to the tourist hotel area.
met an expat living in camb and went to the disco. we were the only foreigners. came in and sat down. 3 girls sat down with us. we drank japanese beers, danced, etc. the girls were 9s young, slim, sweet, and a great attitude.
we didn't take any of the women - i was suffering from gut infection. they charged us $3 per girl for having them at the table. turns out all of the girls work at/for the disco.
the next night i discovered a few red-light like massage parlors around the corner. you would never know they are there until you walked 20 meters down the alley. $10 for a great massage and full service. girl are 9s. one (in the afternoon) didn't do oral. the evening girl was fine with oral. massage was an 8 for both. bring your own raincoats.
later i found a travel agent lady. more sophisticated. great in bed. didn't give her any cash but bought my tickets form her (i may have overpaid - not sure). a nice experience. i always try to find a middle class experience in each country i visit.
cambodia is rough but a great experience - for travel or hobby. you realize how lucky you are when half of the people you talk to have lost half of their family to pol pot. always keep a bunch of 500 real notes with you for the various handicaps & abandon children. sure, some of them are not so poor but most are just scraping by.
one interesting note: there are 200,000+ vietnamese working illegally in cambodia. cambodia is a shit hole. what does that make vietnam?
PattyaDan
Your final paragraph
Not a very intelligent generality
Methinks you have a lot to learn!
Tom
Traveler Tom,
me thinks that you are an NGO and that you should avoid this board. There are just too many guys like you -who know actually NOTHING- and who trie to spread their sick opinions.
Lizard
Clearly I am dealing with an intellect with which I cannot compete, you are, obviously, a much-traveled man - if you think a statement such as 'Cambodia is a shit hole' merits the sort of reaction that you come up with then good luck to you - your posting has zero relevance and seems very confused.
Tom
Traveler Tom,
Well written. Pattaya Dan's 'know nothing', demeaning comment on Cambodia has no place on this board.
Lizard also comes across as clueless.
IMHO,
Daring Mood
Pattaya Dan,
Where are the Red Light MP you mentioned? I need a massage in Siem Reap.
Will my Thai AIS work in Cambo as it is owned by the same guy.
K Toxin, PM of in LOS.
Any reports on the massage there. extras. I like my massage to occur with the girl naked. Any info on the place?
Newest massage place in SR is called TOPTOWN, on the road to the airport. (hate to use the phrase, but: all motos know it!). new standard for siem reap as far as rooms are concerned. pricey too.
massage only: 10 usd, with full program 35 usd.
tried to get 10 usd additionally out of me in the end, as he insisted it was 90 mins, but i didn't have any of it. 35 is more than i ever paid before in cambodia and maybe more than i should. but, it was a good experience, the rooms are very clean and of the highest standards, as cambodian brothels go.
the girl i had, gave a surprisingly good massage, BBJ and full service and was cute, pretty, willing,.
fishbowl had about 50 girls, mix of khmer and viets, from 5 - 9 in looks.
worth the money? not really, the going rate for FL's overnight is still usd 20 and you can find some real stunners there too, on a good night. martini's and zanzibar still the best haunts.
There are a number of places in SR All that I found except Top town are dirtyish, girls ok, chap prices and not worth your time unless you like something out of Tijana in the 60's. Rooms were bad with shite showers etc.
Top Town is out near the new section just in from the airport and is kind of fitting that the clean new area has a nice clean new place. On the right side of the road comming in from the Air Port in the middle of the new hotel section with a big yellow banner at the road side. The palce is about 200 meters down the dirt road. Enter with the bowl on the right and a lovely area for the rooms. A stair case leads to the second floor of rooms with some now theme focused. Nice place very nice place...Wanted 50USD for everything but 35USD was the go not incl tip. As to the others I visited but wouldn't go. All in the old town/market area. Hollywood, Toyko, 666, 333, and a few others. No Good, dirty and they started at 50USD for average girls a shite room! Siep Reap is very dusty and dirty. Not a place I would visit again. Get me back to Phuket, thank you!
I've been reading WSG for a few years and finally posting my first report. Thank you all for your reports which helped me with practical information for my mongering adventure and pure entertainment in front of the computer at work.
I think LOS was the best section to read and imagine all the fun I would have when I visit there. In December, 2004, I finally made a trip to Angkor Wat via Bangkok.
A day and a half in Bangkok was everything I imagined and then some. I did a dancer at one of the bars in NEP, another one at a massage, two girls I met at a street food vendor for a threesome and a very cute young thing in front of the Nana hotel. I keep thinking I am missing another one in between. My stay in Bangkok is a blur in bliss.
One girl I met at the beergarten had a such an incredible smile that I almost missed my plane to Siem Reap.
My trip to Angkor Wat was made at the last minute and had no hotel reservation, etc. I stayed at Angkor Star Hotel for $50/night. In SiemReap (perhaps for all of Cambodia), US currency is used very widely. The hotel was very clean, room was spacious. The hotel however, charged either $10 or $20 for the girl guest (sorry, I can't remember exact $$).
Although I didn't have high hopes for the fuckfest in SR, my personal taxi driver (whom I hired for $20/day) took me to a several places.
In this night club/restaurant/fish bowl all-in-one place, I had dinner, watched Cambodian singers and picked a girl for take-out all night. The girl was $50 and they wouldn't budge a buck.
Although the girl was a winner (GFE, perrrfect tits and the body), she kept asking me to release her since her mother was visiting her from PP. I didn't believe her but she was being very polite and I do think sleeping and fucking is two different thing.
Siem Reap is not exactly Bangkok and it is a very poor country. But visiting Angkor wat is an experience I enjoyed immensely and would like to do it again given the opportunity. yes, I would travel through Bangkok again :).
On the way back, I flew through Bangkok and intentionally scheduled the flights with 8 hours in Bangkok. Hehehe.
Sorry I don't have all the details in SR but if you are going to SR and need info, PM me and I will do my best to answer your questions.
Tahoe - My trip to Angkhor was in June, no reservation, bus/taxi all the way from Thailand. Room was $15 (there are some OK rooms more toward downtown - Dead Fish was OK) Driver was $8 per day (used 3 days) rained so didn't get to see much "nitelife". Most female entertainment pricing is based on skin color/nationality *(whites pay more). IF you pay it... "up to you". I know there are brothels in the area (not exactly what most "furriners" expect, but the locals are used to them) for maybe $3 (but $5 to westerners).
You can spend as much as you want or as little as you want, pretty much.
Snookyville prices were $5, takeout was 15
My trip to Angkor Wat was made at the last minute and had no hotel reservation, etc. I stayed at guest villa (Peace of Anchor) $15.00 as night- no girls to room.. The hotel was very clean, room was spacious, but a bit far from town. Lots of good rooms for 10 to 15 a night.
Although I didn't have high hopes, based on the post here I found that there was a lot available. Tut tut drivers always about “bang bang”. Tried Top Town and price and quality as reported. Service was just ok girl was a 8.5 great ass and tits
Next night tried VIP massage one hour $6.00. plus tip $2.00 Surprising clean room, but no action in premises. The girl, Chantilly, was a 9 with great tits and marvelous ass. We make arrangement for when she got off (11:30). Took a tut-tut to hotel for a quick room at local hotel that she knew …$5.00 for as long as we need. Came with 3 number 1’s (small condoms)
We showered (she didn’t what to play in the shower) and got into bed. She immediately put my head between her legs for dinner at the Y where it stayed till she had an orgasm. After a little head (didn’t want to do it at first) we tried all positions, but she liked doggie best and her ass was perfect. I wanted to do it but would not have any of that. Service was all about her. I still think this is strange for an Asian woman. Guess I have been living in China to long. Overall experience was a 5. I talked about my moving rooms and arranged for her to spending the next night but in the end I passed due to lack of quality service. Cost $20.00
Angkor wat is a great experience I enjoyed immensely and will to do it again in the rainy season and yes, I would travel through Bangkok for a night.
Could anybody give some recommendation for good and guest-friendly hotel in Siem Reap?
Thank's in advance.
In November 2003 I stayed at the Golden Angkor Hotel, also known as Sovann Angkor (13 USD) and this hotel was very girlfreindly. I stayed there for 5 nights. the second night they arranged a lady for me and on two other evening I took a lady with me from the Zanzi bar and both times no questions and no extra payments.
PS: I booked this hotel in Pnohm Pehn when I bought a boat ticket to Siem Reap in Hotel Indochine.
Hi,
Does any know if the Princess Angkor hotel is GF friendly?
All hotels in Cambodia are Gfriendly. I have never experienced or heard otherwise. As far as i know there are no exceptions, Interconti in PP - yes, Sofitel in Siem Reap - sure....Just don't be shy, do what you wanna do and don't ask the hotel staff whether they would consider giving permission to screw a hooker in their respected premises, just do it!
Gentlemen,
I am going to be staying at Angkor Hotel. It seems to be of the 4-star, package-tourist variety and I have great doubts they will let me bring in a girl, but...some of the posts here have been reassuring.
I just don't want to be humiliated in a hotel lobby, that's all. Any suggestions? Are there any short-term hotels in Siem Reap of the Nana Hotel variety? A dingy non aircon place will be fine as long as I don't get mugged! Perhaps, the girls from Zanzibar would know?
Anybody?
[QUOTE=Cloud Seeker]Gentlemen,
I am going to be staying at Angkor Hotel. It seems to be of the 4-star, package-tourist variety and I have great doubts they will let me bring in a girl, but...some of the posts here have been reassuring.
I just don't want to be humiliated in a hotel lobby, that's all. Any suggestions? Are there any short-term hotels in Siem Reap of the Nana Hotel variety? A dingy non aircon place will be fine as long as I don't get mugged! Perhaps, the girls from Zanzibar would know?
Anybody?[/QUOTE]
I stayed at the Angkor hotel in Siem Reap three years ago and had no problems bringing a girl in to my room. Just be discreet about it, that's all.
I'm curious to learn if the nearby cathouse is still in business. Walking out of the hotel to the street, take a left (on the main road), then turn right down the first paved road. The brothel is located on the right a couple of buildings down, even has a red light outside so you'll know you're in the right place.
Final advice: Bring your own condoms with you!
Mighty Spearsman,
Thank you for the reassurance. I will check out the nearby brother, at least out of curiosity!
Cloudy
Well, this thread isn't exactly smoking, that's for damn sure. Anyway, back from my trip - here is the lowdown.
The cathouse mentioned by Mighty Spearsman in his post further down below is indeed alive and kicking. There is a Bangkok-style fishbowl, with the standard ensemble of young ladies with numbers on their dresses (some look too young - tread carefully). I was quoted US$30 for a massage and boom-boom (the "boom-boom" term seems to be universally used in SE Asia), but I offered $20 and they agreed. Overall, it was worth it just to say "I've been there", but I can't say I enjoyed myself immensely. The premises were dingy; a big cockroach crossed the sheets where the deed is done; I was directed to take a shower after the session which is a shower in name only, etc. I think I was cleaner when I walked it than when I came out half an hour later. The girl's attitute was mediocre - massage was predictably a nonevent, sex - she was just lying there with her eyes closed the whole time. She even gave off an unpleasant smell at times. Like I said, if you're really horny, it's there; otherwise, forget it.
Anyway, these massage places are all over the place, but I reckon they are all of the variety described above. I don't think you will find a local version of Darlings or Poseidon around here.
Zanzibar - a bar run by a Belgian chap. Drinks are cheap (US$2 for a bottle, I think - booze is generally cheap in Cambodia) and there are about 10-15 girls hanging around when I was there. Given the rather small girls, selection isn't bad. They are all freelancers; US$20 for both long-time and short-time; they don't seem to differentiate between the two. I didn't take mine to my hotel; rather, a short-time establishment. Expect to pay $5 for an hour for accomodation; either the girl or a tuk-tuk driver will know a short-time place. It helps to iron out prices ahead of time. The short-time "hotel" was seedy. Sex was average. Again, the girl gave off a smell periodically.
Martinis - it's one of the hippest discotheques in town. I waltzed in around 8PM. There were around 15 people; 14 waiters and yours truly. No punters or girls around. I was told the place starts to get going around 10-11PM. Drinks are expensive (for Cambodian standards) at $3 a bottle. I left after finishing my drink.
Khmer women - pretty in general, but less so than the Thais. Hygiene-wise, they also seem to be miles behind their Thai counterparts. English is NOT widely spoken, so you won't even get the half-assed dialogue you can count on with a Thai BG. Cambodia has also one of the highest AIDS rates in the world among commercial sex workers - at a ghastly 30%. Play it safe.
To cap it off, go to Siem Reap to enjoy what the place is most famous for - the magnificent Angkor temples. Save your condoms, money, and time for Bangkok.
Cheers,
Cloudy
just back in phnom penh from sr. what i most like about cloudy's post is his comment about the main purpose of a trip to sr, which is seeing the temples.
zanzibar might be mentioned here on this thread a couple of times, but is is in reality a unappealing hole-in-the-wall expat joint with older girls, some nice attitude among them, but not much in the erotic or looks department, 4-6, the most. i would have to be real desperate to engage in some sort of sex with these beauties.
hollywood, across the river, is an ok place, i dont think that any of the girls at this massage parlour are ****. take out is $35 lt, in-house is $ 25. fish bowl, #19 is nice, viet girl, as most of them.
the martini disco is hell on earth. i lasted there about 35 seconds and had to flee the scene, unbelievable how loud this place is, db 105, i don't know, i yet have to understand how somebody can use this place as a mongering platform, maybe when you're already deaf.
or you can pick up some of the fat, totally out of shape brit/aussie chicks at the red piano. good luck, have fun.
While checking in for a flight from Singapore to Cebu this morning I noticed that Siem Reap Airport is closed. Something about a crack in the runway. If you go there you have to fly to Phnom Penh first and ride a coach from there. Just a heads up for anyone headed that way soon.
Arrived in Siem Reap via Silkair (Singapore) on 10 July. No problem with the Airport's conditions. Stayed at Century Angkor Hotel and Spa, good hotel at about US$90 a nite + breakfast. Unfortunately security was tight due to some Ministerial Meeting beig held there at that time. Managed to go to Som Kon or something Massage about a km down the road (toward town). Picked a girl named Arlene (Girl no. 29) for massage and full service. Overall ordinary enjoyable experience. Went there at about 7.00 p.m. when I finished at 8.00 p.m., the Thai's style aquarium was full of more beautiful girls.
Overall cost: US$30.00 i.e. full thai massage US$5, FS US$20 and tip US$5 (optional).
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To correct a few previous reports of others about SR town:
To my knowledge there are NO brothels neither on the street opposite Zanzibar, neither around Martini's. None, zero. There are a few expensive massage/boom-boom parlours, that's all.
Zanzibar is an expat bar near the old market. It had one bored and very painted ho sitting outside. She didn't even smile. It seemed there would be nothing to write about but then a very ugly ho stopped me on the street just opposite Zanzibar. Offered F/S for $10 in her room or mine. She was about 20 but very ugly with crooked, stained teeth.
We talked for about 2 minutes and she sticked on me, couldn't get rid of her, she kept following. I actually had to run away.
Martini's disco is just across the bridge from the old-market. Opens far too late, is full of cigarette smoke and a beer is $3. It's mostly a locals scene. Hardly any foreigners at all. Need to say more?
This town is really owned by foreign prostitutes who fuck for jewellery, house and marriage, or a lot of saliva dribbling and asslicking. They do not tolerate any cheap competition undercutting their business (which being same but for charging a lot more). Not much honest meat-for-cash available at all.
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About Angkor Wat.
Is it really worth seeing it? Is it worth the trouble and the cost?
Not really. It's $23 for a day's permit plus $8 for transport. To be honest if you have seen Sukhotai then you have seen all ruins in the world. At Sukhotai you only pay $1 entrance fee if I remember well. Plus hire a bicycle for another $1.
Angkor Wat seems to be just another big hype to raise cash. Just piles of old stones everywhere. Like dried bones of some ugly dead big animal. You know what it reminds me? The story of the "Emperor's New Clothes". The people were told that only those can see the clothes who are intelligent. So everyone pretended that they did. Until a little kid came and said that "the man is really naked".
The same goes for Angkor. maybe they really should pay people to go there. There is nothing. For Angkor Wat itself half an hour is too much. For the rest even less. The green rice fields around the complex are possibly the most scenic.
Plus they only should let in no more than 100 people a day. The crowds are horrific, like Tokyo in peak hour. So many intelligent punters. Sure they all can see 'it'. They click away their cameras and proudly brag back at home. "We have seen IT. It was wonderful. (Aren't we intelligent? pat,pat..)"
Just to illustrate how big cash-making machine Angkor Wat is: That one (late) morning there were several hundreds of tourists at just one site. And they continually came by the thousands, by busloads during the day. If they let in just 100 people a day @$20/ea =$2000/day income. That provides income for 600 lazy, do-nothing Cambodian workers @$3/day each.
Buy some dustpans and brushes for them and they can wipe clean all those blackened stones. The actual income must indeed be huge from entrance fees alone. Add to this the leases on site and the taxes from the town businesses, etc., etc.
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Alexander,
You dismiss Angkor Wat as "just piles of old stones everywhere." You've got to be kidding me, bro! Your comment shows an appalling lack of historical and cultural awareness. There's more to Cambodia than just brothels, you know.
The only part of your post I agree with is the P4P scene in Siem Reap. Go to Siem Reap to see the spectacular ruins, not for the P4P action. Though more power to 'ya if you find a stunner (few and far in between) in Siem Reap.
To Alexander,
Ankgor is build between the 8 th to 12 th centuries. Sukothai is find in the 13th centuries. You cannot compare the two. Ankgor is the ten largest man made wonder in the world. It is much larger and older than Sukothai. I agree with you, the government is charging too much, but if the tourist dollar go to help the people in that country, I have no problem with that.
Fast eddie 48
To correct a few previous reports of others about SR town:
To my knowledge there are no brothels neither on the street opposite Zanzibar, neither around Martini's. None, zero. There are a few expensive massage/boom-boom parlours, that's all.
Zanzibar is an expat bar near the old market. It had one bored and very painted ho sitting outside. She didn't even smile. It seemed there would be nothing to write about but then a very ugly ho stopped me on the street just opposite Zanzibar. Offered F/S for $10 in her room or mine. She was about 20 but very ugly with crooked, stained teeth.
We talked for about 2 minutes and she sticked on me, couldn't get rid of her, she kept following. I actually had to run away.
Martini's disco is just across the bridge from the old-market. Opens far too late, is full of cigarette smoke and a beer is $3. It's mostly a locals scene. Hardly any foreigners at all. Need to say more?
This town is really owned by foreign prostitutes who fuck for jewellery, house and marriage, or a lot of saliva dribbling and asslicking. They do not tolerate any cheap competition undercutting their business (which being same but for charging a lot more). Not much honest meat-for-cash available at all.
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About Angkor Wat.
Is it really worth seeing it? Is it worth the trouble and the cost?
Not really. It's $23 for a day's permit plus $8 for transport. To be honest if you have seen Sukhotai then you have seen all ruins in the world. At Sukhotai you only pay $1 entrance fee if I remember well. Plus hire a bicycle for another $1.
Angkor Wat seems to be just another big hype to raise cash. Just piles of old stones everywhere. Like dried bones of some ugly dead big animal. You know what it reminds me? The story of the "Emperor's New Clothes". The people were told that only those can see the clothes who are intelligent. So everyone pretended that they did. Until a little kid came and said that "the man is really naked".
The same goes for Angkor. maybe they really should pay people to go there. There is nothing. For Angkor Wat itself half an hour is too much. For the rest even less. The green rice fields around the complex are possibly the most scenic.
Plus they only should let in no more than 100 people a day. The crowds are horrific, like Tokyo in peak hour. So many intelligent punters. Sure they all can see 'it'. They click away their cameras and proudly brag back at home. "We have seen IT. It was wonderful. (Aren't we intelligent? pat,pat..)"
Just to illustrate how big cash-making machine Angkor Wat is: That one (late) morning there were several hundreds of tourists at just one site. And they continually came by the thousands, by busloads during the day. If they let in just 100 people a day @$20/ea =$2000/day income. That provides income for 600 lazy, do-nothing Cambodian workers @$3/day each.
Buy some dustpans and brushes for them and they can wipe clean all those blackened stones. The actual income must indeed be huge from entrance fees alone. Add to this the leases on site and the taxes from the town businesses, etc., etc.
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I spent ten days in Siem Reap in August, this month. On the previous report the old market, the bridge and Martini are mentioned. If you keep on walking in the same direction after you cross the bridge, about two long blocks, on the right side, there are at least three "massage" places. Did not go in. The last one "Hollywood Massage", I think is the better one. There were about 30 Vietnamese girls, all young. There were three or four that I would say were not good looking, but were OK. Locals $5, outsiders $10. Take out $20. Took a couple at different times. The first one was OK. The second one left at 4:00am. I learned a while ago that it is better not to argue, just let them go.
There is another massage place about two blocks from the main street, on the road that goes toward Poipet.The name of the joint is Tokyo. There were also about 30 girls, all young. I did not see anyone attractive. the price, take out $50!
I staye at "The golden Angkor Hotel" $12 night, not bad. They sell bus tickets
to Poipet, $12. a van came to pick me up, took me to a gas station, I was told to get on top of a pick up truck. Hell no! Got my money back.
BEWARE of this scam!
I wrote my last report at a cafe internet. I would like to say a little bit more regarding my previous report. I had been in Cambodia many times. I have lost count. I have traveled by air, some times by land which costs about $40. I took the boat from Koh Kong to Sihanukville three times, in those three times the boats were overloaded with goods and people. If they had vests they were unreachable. On top of that, the sea is always agitated. I took a pick up truck once, the only service from Koh Kong to Phnom Penh, it is a grueling seven to eight hours on an unpaved road, same as the road from Siem Reap to Poipet. The road from Phnom Penh to Siem Reap is paved!
As I mentioned in my previous report, I spent ten days in SR. The bus I took from the central market in Ph Penh discharged passengers barely at the entrrance of Siem Reap. I walked aimlessly until, mercifully, someone directed me to the center of Siem Reap. Without lookin for the Golden Angkor hotel I stumbled upon it! It has clean rooms, ac. cable, bottled water all for $12.
The bus ticket I was sold to go from Siem Reap to Poipet turned out to be a scam, they sell you bus tickets and make you travel on top of a pick up truck! the sun and dust are unbearable. I took once that trip. As an adventure once is enough!
I took a real bus for $4 to Poipet the following day. After clearing customs at the Thai side, after few yards on the right side of the exit I found buses to BKK for 100 bt, $2. 50. the trip takes tree hours!
[QUOTE=Samu Ray]I spent ten days in Siem Reap in August, this month. On the previous report the old market, the bridge and Martini are mentioned. If you keep on walking in the same direction after you cross the bridge, about two long blocks, on the right side, there are at least three "massage" places. Did not go in. The last one "Hollywood Massage", I think is the better one. There were about 30 Vietnamese girls, all young. There were three or four that I would say were not good looking, but were OK. Locals $5, outsiders $10. Take out $20. Took a couple at different times. The first one was OK. The second one left at 4: 00am. I learned a while ago that it is better not to argue, just let them go.
There is another massage place about two blocks from the main street, on the road that goes toward Poipet. The name of the joint is Tokyo. There were also about 30 girls, all young. I did not see anyone attractive. the price, take out $50!
I staye at "The golden Angkor Hotel" $12 night, not bad. They sell bus tickets to Poipet, $12. a van came to pick me up, took me to a gas station, I was told to get on top of a pick up truck. Hell no! Got my money back.
BEWARE of this scam! [/QUOTE]
Will have to spend 1 night nest week in SR. What who make the most out of these few hours according to you guys?
Thanks
To fast Eddie:
About Angkor Wat.
Is it really worth seeing it? Is it worth the trouble and the cost?
Not really. It's $23 for a day's permit plus $8 for transport. To be honest if you have seen Sukhotai then you have seen all ruins in the world. At Sukhotai you only pay $1 entrance fee if I remember well. Plus hire a bicycle for another $1.
I thinck this is really Shit, what you tell here. I was there about 15 Years ago first time. It's the Best what you can see. The Combination of Temple in the Jungle is great. If you just go to look the main Temple in 10 Min., then of course you don't see much. But as we see you write about Angkor in SexGuide , so better tell Stories about Boum-Boum, than about Temple that you didn't see.
The fact is, it probably costs $200-300 extra just to travel to Angkor from Bangkok anyways. So, big deal if the government charges $23 a day to see it (or $45 for 3 days). They are using the Temples at Angkor to try to fund the re-building of the entire nation's infrastructure, and those temples are, frankly, the ONLY resource besides dirt cheap labor that the entire country has got. I certainly had no problem spending a bit over $20 to spend an entire day there seeing some of the most amazing ancient structures on the planet earth. Frankly, if you are from somewhere far away, and you DON'T take the trouble to see Angkor, you are missing something really important in the historical development of humanity.
The way I look at it, spending the fee to see the Temples at Angkor It's about the same as a short time girl in Thailand, or an all nighter in Cambodia. And Angkor is far more memorable and unique, and you will be far better for it in the long run, than that one extra bit of shagging. And most of us can easily afford both, in any case.
I couldn't agree more.
Who of us remembers the "Nok, Noi, On or Anh" from a year ago ?
That said, I'm still looking forward to my first trip to Angkor. Wasted all my time in PP, K11 and S-ville on previous trips.
Next time for sure.
(not meant sarcastically)
FD
OK - on Angkhor - some people promote the week package (evidently a bit more expensive than last year when I went - it was 20/40/60 for 1/3/7 days). There are a few temples worth seeing (unless one is into reconstructive jig-saw puzzles) - Bayon, Angkhor Thom, Anghkor Wat, the sunset from the hill directly in front of Angkhor Wat, the various "gates". The rest of them are essentially for the archaeologist - big piles of rocks (a couple of smaller temples were a bit interesting) After a couple of hours, they start looking the same. BUT - well worth the trip - even to the "piles" as long as you enjoy watching some reconstructive efforts (funded I might note by OTHER than the US for some reason)
I did 3 days. Either take plenty of water or buy en route at the various food/drink stops in the area. Wear comfortable shoes you will be climbing in (pretty hard to see most of the interesting stuff without climbing - have no fear of heights, and don't expect handrails - few and far between) Go now before it gets so popular they restrict entry
Don't omit Ta Phrom. It's the un-reconstructed temple that has been left mostly in the state in which it was found, largely reclaimed by the Jungle. Personally, I found it to be the most fascinating of all, and at least as worthwhile a visit as the Bayon and Angkor Wat. Three days is more than sufficient. If you have a knowledgeable guide and a car and driver, you can see all the major temple sights in one complete day.
[QUOTE=Member #2041] So, big deal if the government charges $23 a day to see it (or $45 for 3 days). They are using the Temples at Angkor to try to fund the re-building of the entire nation's infrastructure, and those temples are, frankly, the ONLY resource besides dirt cheap labor that the entire country has got. .[/QUOTE]Unfortunately your money is not going to the people of Cambodia but instead
a corporation. Below is an excerpt I copied from...
[url]http://www.talesofasia.com/cambodia-sokimex.htm[/url]
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As you head north towards Angkor Wat, capturing that first glimpse of the famous towers peaking out from behind the trees, you no doubt think, 'at least my money is going to save the temples... isn't it?'
Look at that ticket again. Above the picture of Angkor Wat it says "Sokha Hotel Co., LTD." They are the ones taking your money. Sokha Hotel is a division of Sokimex - a corporation founded in 1980 with close ties to the CPP government. Aside from the Angkor ticket concession, Sokimex is a petroleum company, and is a supplier to the government of military uniforms, medicines, and food for the military. It is also involved in import-export, rubber, transportation, and real estate.
I looked around a bit one night to check out the scene. Mind you, I am a first-timer in Asia and first time in Cambodia - I like the Korean MP scene in the US where the girls are pretty, young, and in the business for god know's why but at least not because they are dirt poor with nothing else to do.
Zanzybar - best looking chic here was a dude with a pockmarked face but a nice body...
Crazy Kim's or some such - a little better than Zanzybar
Sok San - some people singing Karaoke, looked to be girls, didn't stay
Blue Wave club - very dark but the girls looked none too hot
All three are on or just off Srivatha street. Across the river was Martini which seemed to have girls but they wouldn't let me in with my bottle of water I was carrying to rehydrate in the heat!
YMMV of course because I did see westerners with good looking Khmers.
Gohan - a bit misleading - true, the hotel company gets 10 percent for issuing the tickets, but the other 90 percent goes to APSARA (the organization responsible for maintaing the temples and such)
It's well documented (of course, there is probably a little graft in there as well, but it doesn't all go to the hotel company)
Hi guys!
I will arrive in Siam Reap Intl. Airport on the 27th at 20.00.
Which hotel / guesthouse do you suggest to stay? (of course guest friendly....)
And where do you suggest to hang out for the first night?
And some other practical info:
- Visa: doable at the airport (20 USD + photos) correct?
- Where to chanhe money?
- Better to have Euro or Dollars?
Happy to start my Christmas mongering!
ANZ bank is now opening ATMS in Siem Reap. Two are now (barely) operational, although they would not take one of my ATM cards. (My spare ATM card, linked to a different bank, worked fine; the rejected card worked at ANZ in Phemn Penh). Just ask your moto or tuk-tuk driver for "A-N-Zed Bank."
Dollars are still the #1 currency in Cambodia. Nobody uses Euros.
The "scene" includes Martini's (too loud), Zanzybar type places (bar with pool table and working girls glad to be picked up) and a series of fish-bowl massage places two blocks further from the River from Martini's. From the plaza or street in front of Martini's you can spot strings of red and white lights down the street that heads away from the river - 2 or 3 blocks away - that is where they are. The middle place of the three massage places appears the cleanest. I was quoted $ 25 once and $ 30 once for 90 minutes. Hollywood quoted $ 15 for one hour, the rooms are dingy there. If you go this route, I would ask to see the rooms first, and that way you may be a cleaner one. The women appeared pretty cute in both places.
City Spa, Chai etc. are legit massage places on the road from town to archeological area. I had a world class oil massage and probably overpaid at $ 15, I know that price could have been negotiated as they guy who quoted it went home and they did not know what they had to charge me when we were done....but it was much better than the $ 6 massage (also legit) in the center. YMMV.
I do not know about TopTown.
Play safe - HIV rate is very high in Cambodia. HF
Hi,
I was in S. R. In December and I stayed at the Golden Orange Mansion [url]www. Goldenoranghotel. Com[/url] a new hotel tv, air c. Fridge and really friendly, if you want they can call for you a lady for a full massage. 20 dollars per night, they didn't accept credit card, you'll probably need cash for the bill! If you like disco and a little of action, like me, go to ZoneOne you find there either regulars and more or less 15 mongers (I had a great time with one of them) 25 dollars for long time, you should give money in advance to the mamasan. In my opinion the best place where to spend your time without problems. If you prefer massage try Hollywood. Zanzybar is a really bad place and Martini is nothing special.
As for Visa you are correct, it's possible to change money in the airport at the time you arrive but you had better to change money (dollars) before, so you could save time. In Cambodia now the real currency is dollar especially in S. R. , Riel is used just for little things (1 dollar is + or - 4000 Riel). The place isn't dangerous, I hope you'll have a good time as I had! If you'll need further information, just ask!
[QUOTE=Lorenz]Hi guys!
I will arrive in Siam Reap Intl. Airport on the 27th at 20.00.
Which hotel / guesthouse do you suggest to stay? (of course guest friendly....)
And where do you suggest to hang out for the first night?
And some other practical info:
- Visa: doable at the airport (20 USD + photos) correct?
- Where to chanhe money?
- Better to have Euro or Dollars?
Happy to start my Christmas mongering![/QUOTE]
Need some info. Did anybody go to Cambodia culture center? If so how is it.
On the website it looks like a good cultural experience for the whole day.
[QUOTE=Sammon]Need some info. Did anybody go to Cambodia culture center? If so how is it.
On the website it looks like a good cultural experience for the whole day.[/QUOTE]
to sammon
I don't think you want to waste a whole day there , you might want to go for
a few hr if you have a lot of time , you should spend more time at ankor wat.
you can find some good bargin there .
fast eddie 48
Just came back from Siem Reap. Stayed at the Freedom Inn, which has rooms at $15, $20 & $25 w/ good cable TV, fridge, hot water & swimming pool. It's a bit outside the center of the things (I wanted a place w/ a pool & ESPN to watch the football), but it was a decent place and good value. It is girl friendly.
For three nights I went to Khmer discos around town and had a great time--I never got the names of the places, just told the moto driver that I wanted to go to a place where the locals hang at. Waiters saw I was on my own and brought round a few girls; there were gobs of super hotties but they were w/ locals and didn't strike me as working for living. The working girls were good looking, but not as smokin' as the hotties. LT time at my hotel was $15 and $20. Bumped into a group of Korean college students at the disco on night 2, and as I speak fairly good Korea I partied with them to hook up with one of the girls. Chatted up one the girls and learned they were staying at my hotel. Had an okay freebie.
Angkor Wat is a much better experience today than it was in 1994. Back then I was hounded everywhere by beggars, "tour guides" and peddlers. A non-stop cacaphony that had me flee the place as I couldn't enjoy it. On this go I did the 3-day pass at $40. The cost is worth it since I didn't get hassled while visiting the temples. Correct that: I was a little bit hassled when I got out of car, but as soon as I entered the defined temple areas no peddlers are allowed to enter.
The government-approved tour guides are worth the price, which is typically $20 a day. I've never used a guide anywhere before, but my guide was awesome. I felt sorry for those I saw wandering around looking at guidebooks. You spend so much money to get here, just a little bit more makes the experience so much better. I hired him from sunrise to sunset for 3 days, and he really made the experience. No push at all to go shopping, etc. Of course he offered, but never pushed. I have contact info for Mr. Chhay (pronounced "Chai", like how the Indian word for tea) so if you want it PM me--I check the board about once a week so do so BEFORE you arrive.
If you want to save a lot a money don't fly direct to Siem Reap. A return ticket from either Bangkok or Hanoi is almost $400. I flew Air Asia from Bangkok to Phnom Penh for less than $100 return. The guide books I read stated that the road from PP to SR was kinda buggered, so I took the boat at $25. The boat trip is okay, but there really isn't much of visual interest. BTW, the PP to SR road is NOT buggered. I took the bus at $8 from SR to PP. The bus took the same 5 and a half hours that the boat took. The bus station is across the road from where the boats launch. There are decent, affordable & girl friendly guest houses ($15) near the bus and boat.
If you want to see some awesome Angkor Wat photos by a Siem Reap-based American photographer visit asiaphotos dot net. John McDermott has 2 galleries in SR; one "downtown" and the other near the Le Meridien. Well worth a look. Pricey, though. Very pricey.
hutsori,
Thanks for the link to the photos. I really enjoyed them.
Lex
FYI, a year ago when I was there, I bought a 4-leg airpass on Bangkok Air for $275. This covered TWO round trips for me: Bangkok to Siem Reap, back to Bangkok, Bangkok to Koh Samui, Koh Samui to U-Tapao (closest airport to Pattaya).
Traveling to BKK in April, would like to see PP (3 nights) and Siem Reap (1 night) Found only Bangkok Airways flying to all three places and it's a pricey trip.
Can anyone recommend another airline or alternative? Considered going by land to Siem Reap, but 4 hours in a bus would be my limit.
Cheers.
Try [url]www.airasia.com[/url]
The BKK to Siem Reap route is a Bangkok Air monopoly. They are the only choice for that direct flight. Don't know about BKK to Phnom Penh, but I can tell you that it is a corporate strategy of Bangkok Air never to compete with discounters like Air Asia. If they can't tie up a route, they won't pursue it.
the bus ride is about 5 hours - leaves from near the central market in pp and arrives at the bus station in sr. a bit boring but nice countryside. one or 2 [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url] stops enroute (no on-board lavs). take a lunch
there were some cambodian airline service with propjets from pnh-sr but that might not be avilable now. depending on your itinerary, 1 night would probably not be enopugh in sr - if you are going for hobby, you would actually be better off going to snooky (4 hour bus ride) - no other way there from pp. sr is only valuable as a cultural trip to angkor (which takes a whole day by itself - minimum)
Flying to Siem Reap was a reapoff in the past, especially from Singapore where SilkAir had the monopoly.
But now the things has changed. Jetstar Asia, a subsidiary of Quantas, started flying Singapore-SR route three times/week. Round trip, restricted tickets, will cost you around S$210 including taxes. Jetstar Asia also fly to Phnom Penh and you can buy one way ticket to either places. So you can buy SIN-PP and SR-SIN ticket for S$210 and make an overland transfer between PP-SR. Just my two cents.
Kamking1
Fellas,
Can you suggest some decent hotel in SR that are close to restaurents, bars and other nightly entertainment. My girlfriend are I will be visiting SR for the first time to mainly exprience Angor Wat. But we both like to stay closer to the area where there are ample choices for nightly entertainment.
Thanks in adavance for any advice.
[QUOTE=Kamking1]Flying to Siem Reap was a reapoff in the past, especially from Singapore where SilkAir had the monopoly.
But now the things has changed. Jetstar Asia, a subsidiary of Quantas, started flying Singapore-SR route three times/week. Round trip, restricted tickets, will cost you around S$210 including taxes. Jetstar Asia also fly to Phnom Penh and you can buy one way ticket to either places. So you can buy SIN-PP and SR-SIN ticket for S$210 and make an overland transfer between PP-SR. Just my two cents.
Kamking1[/QUOTE]
to kaming 1
I just check today round trip from bangkok to phnom penh is 7400 baht on
bangkok air way morning flight only , bangkok to siem reap is 5800 baht one
way so it is better to take the bus from pnnom penh to siem reap is very fast
now with new highway.
fast eddie 48
Thanks Fast Eddie 48. I am planning to Fly from Singapore to PP and then overland to SR, probably by bus as you say the roads are better now. Then will fly back to Singapore. Jetstar Asia will cost me SIN-PP and SR-SIN a total of about S$211 including taxes.
Kamking1
Seems like the Air Asia is the way to go BKK to PP (799 Baht). Gets to PP around 8 AM. Would like to take Siem Reap Airways to PP to SR, same day. Went to [url]www.talesofasia.com[/url] (Great Site) and Cambodian Airports website for flight schedules, but can't find any pricing on the PP to SR trip. Any info or advice on the SR to PP flight, costs. Also getting worried about all the discussion on HIV in Cambodia photo section and thinking about skipping any mongering activity in Cambi and just head back to Thailand. Or would that be regrettable. Anyway, thanks for the info on Air Asia Samu Ray. Big cost savings over Bangkok Airways.
[QUOTE=Elguy001]Fellas,
Can you suggest some decent hotel in SR that are close to restaurents, bars and other nightly entertainment. My girlfriend are I will be visiting SR for the first time to mainly exprience Angor Wat. But we both like to stay closer to the area where there are ample choices for nightly entertainment.
Thanks in adavance for any advice.[/QUOTE]
I looked, but did not stay, at the Red Piano which is at the center of the action. It's nice and not a rip off--provided you don't define anything more than $5 a rip off. Very good food there, too. I stayed at the Freedom Hotel which is well outside ground zero, but it had a pool and was cheaper. Only a $1 motorcycle ride to town center
Asia Smiles,
I am glad you found my modest contribution to be helpful!
The bus trip from Phnom Penh to S R is not that bad. The road is paved.
It takes about seven hours to make the trip.
The trip from Poipet to S R or the other way around is bad, I think because
the buses that cover that route are unreliable, they break down because of
the bad state of the road, it is a dirt road. When it rains it gets worse.
I sympathize with Cambodians who have to travel along that road.
Turns out it costs $76 USD each way from on siemreap airways, fourty-five minute flight. I'll be in Siem Reap April 24, for 2 or 3 days. Banyon Hotel. If any fellow mongers out there that day, let's have a beer.
Email:reservation@siemreapairways.com
[url]www.siemreapairways.com[/url]
Flight schedules available on-line. E-mails no problem with English.
Thanks Samu Rai, Member 2041, and all contributors.
The hotel stored the majority of the luggage as only a small handbag was recommended for the flight to Cambodia. Siem Reap was the destination and although it said "International Airport" one could tell from the one gate and no jetway that this was a rather sleepy airport. A bus was waiting to go to the hotel and he was very pleased with the way the old classic French hotel had be refurbished, air conditioning, a fine dining room, bar and pool. After a hot shower and filling meal he was ready to check out the night life. The hotel also had a spa (massage, etc.) but very expensive. The elevator boy said there was a good place outside not so expensive called Chai Massage and that they would send a car. He has seen the location and sign on the way in from the airport and had noticed that they were advertising as "relaxation massage."
Upon entering and paying for an hour massage he was shown to a small stool in front of a room door. There he was to remove his shoes/sandals and dawn thin clothing that was like a pajama and he left the top unbuttoned. When she entered she motioned for him to be face down. The way she crossed the soles of his feet and pressed down, he was not surprised at what was to follow. She was small but very strong with strong hands and legs and body. The fingers of her hands found every human nerve that a body contained and applied pressure. He was not a massage expert but felt he was being "treated" to intense reflexology. She knew her trade very well and worked one leg and then the other. As her hands moved up the leg toward the groin the pressing became so "painful" that all he could do was laugh at the intense "tickle" and try to avoid crying or jumping out of his skin. The amazing thing was that she did not press long and when she did there was no pain once she moved on. Later she was able to bend and twist him and he was confident that he would not break; that she knew just how stiff or loose his muscles were. She would sit and pull on the legs and push with her feet using her strong legs to do much massage work. Her feet were so skilled that they felt like small soft "hands." The hour passes much too quickly and at the end of the session he asked if he could see her again. She spoke virtually no English, but managed to covey that she was called # 28. So the next day after a long hard hot day at the temples he wanted more of # 28. This time a 2 hour session was arranged. Before this, he had never felt he could afford a two hour session, but $30 for two hours was just too good a deal. The second night was less stressful for him. He knew the pain would pass quickly and what she would expect and when; how for him to turn and respond to her routine. This lady was truly an expert. She did more or less the same routine but worked each area harder and in more detail before moving on. Now when she pressed his leg near the groin he was better able to keep control and not make too much noise or twitch out of control
If one has to travel from SR to PP or visa versa then a toyota car is maybe a good option. us$25-30 for your own car or shared for less. Three hours on a very poor road when the conditions are good. If time is of the essence, (and for one mongering on a short holiday I would say that time is of the essence ) than there is a good driver (who is also very fluent in Thai) that you can find at the tales of asia website. He also can point one to some interesting parts of SR (you want to talk about viet girls and he will have a bigger smile than your's).
Price for massage per hour is 5 dollar.
[QUOTE=Gene Pitney]If one has to travel from SR to PP or visa versa then a toyota car is maybe a good option. us$25-30 for your own car or shared for less. Three hours on a very poor road when the conditions are good. If time is of the essence, (and for one mongering on a short holiday I would say that time is of the essence ) than there is a good driver (who is also very fluent in Thai) that you can find at the tales of asia website. He also can point one to some interesting parts of SR (you want to talk about viet girls and he will have a bigger smile than your's).[/QUOTE]Hi Gene,
Do you know any driver contact number in PP would take me to SR and return trip too. Thx in advance for your help much appreciated.
Its My Life
[QUOTE=Gene Pitney]If one has to travel from SR to PP or visa versa then a toyota car is maybe a good option. us$25-30 for your own car or shared for less. Three hours on a very poor road when the conditions are good. If time is of the essence, (and for one mongering on a short holiday I would say that time is of the essence ) than there is a good driver (who is also very fluent in Thai) that you can find at the tales of asia website. He also can point one to some interesting parts of SR (you want to talk about viet girls and he will have a bigger smile than your's).[/QUOTE]Don't waste time on shocking Cambodian roads, fly Bangkok to Siem Reap and then fly onto Pnom Penh.
Siem reap has great bars and restaurants and make sure to visit martini dancing. Great late night spot where I picked up a beautiful cham girl who was overjoyed with $20 Australian.
Hey Prince Harry,
What's the name of the late night club? Any other recommendations?
Day 1, I hired a tud-tud from my hotel to take me to Hawaiian Massage, a place I did not know where it is and its pricing system. The driver of the tud-tud took me there and talked shortly in Cambodian to the staff of the parlor. After I walked in the parlor, I saw 15-20 girls in a glassless fishbowl. These girls were quite young, 20-25 yrs. old and scored 6-8 on the face rating. The boss asked 50 at first, then dropped to 35 after I complained too expensive. I knew PP had a much lower prices but not aware of the prices in Siem Reap. Since time was limited and more precious to me during my stay there, I accepted the price. I selected Wee, a 18 yrs. old Vietnamese who happened to walk through the sideway of the room when I was searching my object in the fishbowl. She had a very young face and body. I doubled-checked her age before I continued my action. She led me to a sub-par small room with a tiny bathroom. We both stripped and she proceeded to massage me for 5 minutes before she started to excite me. The foreplay was short and after she put on the condom she wanted me to f*ck her. No kiss and no BJ allowed but DATY was OK. I finished in the missionary position in a short period of time. Girl was young, beautiful (8.5) but service was poor (5).
Day 2, I went to Hawaiian Massage again the second night. The price dropped to 30. The selection was limited (less than 10). I selected a 22 Vitenamese, Ny. She did a massage job about 10 minutes that was better than Wee did the previous night. She provided short-time BJ with condom but still no kiss permitted. We tried a few positions and finished before the 40 min mark. Ry is beautiful (8) again but the service is not good (6).
[b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread.[/blue]
[QUOTE=Masked Avenge]Hey Prince Harry,
What's the name of the late night club? Any other recommendations?[/QUOTE]
Yeah the place was called martini dancing.
It is just across the river from the bar street.
I went to another place,a khmer favourite that was called by four letters or four numbers. It was really jumping when I was there and had many beautiful women but one would have to speak Cambodian.
[QUOTE=Professor J]Day 1, I hired a tud-tud from my hotel to take me to Hawaiian Massage, . . . The boss asked 50 at first, then dropped to 35 after I complained too expensive. I knew PP had a much lower prices but not aware of the prices in Siem Reap. [/QUOTE]
Hi Prof,
Sorry to be a pest, but I'm planning a trip to Ankor to do some dirt biking in October. What currency are you quoting ?
I'm trying to work out prices and how much to spend on things like taxis (tud-tuds?) and girls.
Cheers,
Expatcat
The de-facto currency of Cambodia is the U.S. Dollar - paper money only. The Cambodian Riel is used to make change on a dollar, with 4000 Riel to a dollar.
A dollar can get you taken most anywhere on a tuk tuk. I got an entire 90 minute tour of Siem Reap for $2, and was thanked profusely for my generosity when I handed him the second George Washington.
Freelancers can easily be found for $20 or less, but I found that the massage parlors tend to ask for $50 short time, and one has to negotiate hard to get the cost down to $30 in Siem Reap. Phnom Penh is much cheaper.
Was in Siem Reap in June 06.
Temples are great, I rent a bicycle 1$/day. Couldn’t rent a motorbike like in PP, probably because of the tuk tuk mafia. Plenty of hotels: Ta Phrom near the market for 34$, or City River near the river for 35 $. Don’t come in the hotel with your motor bike taxi or he will ask for a commission to be added to the price of your room.
Night life:
-Disco: Martini near the bridge to the market, very dark and very loud. Better go to Zone One, many beautiful girls.
-Bars: Blue Wave bar, dead with ugly girls, and Zanzibar the same.
-Massage Parlours: the best option in my opinion. They are located on the strech of road, a bit further away from the Martini: Hollywood (ST 20$), Madonna (ST 25$), DoRéMi (ST 30$), Bopea (ST 25$). Experience depends of the girls, but lacks of enthousiasm.
Best massage parlour is on the road to airport : Top Town, full of beautiful girls (ST 35$). Did feel stupid coming on my bicycle in front of the girls, when the chinese businessmen were coming in their BMW.
- Taphul road has a place mainly catering to cambodian boys, but some of the girls are nice and ok to go to your hotel (ST 5$/7$)
Overall, ok to see Angkor wat, but for the fun PP is the place to go.
I Visited Phnom Penh and Siem Reap At the end of 2005.
Yeah! there are at least six massage places on the street straight past the
bridge, by the old market.I took three girls in three different nights from Hollywood Massage for all night to my hotel. I paid $20
for each. Sure they wanted more, but, if you walk away prices will drop!
It is a fish bowl set up. There are few tables in front of the girls to sit and have a beer. Seems to be a popular place, girls are always on the move, they
are all Vietnamese.
Before reaching ¨Hollywood¨, on the same side there is another joint, massage place, it has big parking lot, it must have close to 100 girls, both
Viet and Cambodian. I paid $20 for a girl, all night! They looked to be over
18, all young.
I also visited Tokyo Massage, they were no better than the girls at Hollywood
and the pimp asked $50 short time!
[QUOTE=FrankStraube]Was in Siem Reap in June 06.
Couldn’t rent a motorbike like in PP, probably because of the tuk tuk mafia. .[/QUOTE]
Actually, reason you couldnt rent motobike is because you can't. There is a law that forbids foreigners from renting motos(believe this law only exist for SR)
PT
[QUOTE=FrankStraube]Was in Siem Reap in June 06.
- Taphul road has a place mainly catering to cambodian boys, but some of the girls are nice and ok to go to your hotel (ST 5$/7$)
.[/QUOTE]
Hmm this seems interesting.
I plan to be there also for 1st time in Nov.
This locals brothel on Taphul Rd in SR. Can you narrow down the location of this place. Like which guesthouse /restaurant/cross street its near?--ex: 100meters south of GHxx or Hotelxx.
Thanks
PT
[QUOTE=FrankStraube]Was in Siem Reap in June 06.
-Massage Parlours: the best option in my opinion. They are located on the strech of road, a bit further away from the Martini: Hollywood (ST 20$), Madonna (ST 25$), DoRéMi (ST 30$), Bopea (ST 25$). Experience depends of the girls, but lacks of enthousiasm.
Best massage parlour is on the road to airport : Top Town, full of beautiful girls (ST 35$). Did feel stupid coming on my bicycle in front of the girls, when the chinese businessmen were coming in their BMW.[/QUOTE]Update: Hollywood is closed now and DoReMi sucks. I found another one opposite the Old Market: Sok San Palace (ST 25$) with some pretty girls. It is just off Sivatha Bld at the corner with Roof Top Bar.
Top Town seems to be more Japanese oriented.
[QUOTE=Bill The Kill] Sok San Palace (ST 25$) with some pretty girls. [/QUOTE]
25 bucks! Hilarious. Can we presume you missed out a point somewhere in this price?
[QUOTE=Bill The Kill]Update: Hollywood is closed now and DoReMi sucks. I found another one opposite the Old Market: Sok San Palace (ST 25$) with some pretty girls. It is just off Sivatha Bld at the corner with Roof Top Bar.
Top Town seems to be more Japanese oriented.[/QUOTE]
Seems like bad news for me as I plan to be there for 1st time just to find out Hollywoods closed--it was one place I had wanted to visit.
Other places are charging $25 ST?--what happen to the price as I understand it should be $20 LT. Perhaps I could live with $25 LT since its high season when I arrive but not 25 ST.Anything else out there?
And any word on those $5/pop local places?
PT
[QUOTE=Phantomtiger2]Seems like bad news for me as I plan to be there for 1st time just to find out Hollywoods closed--it was one place I had wanted to visit.
Other places are charging $25 ST?--what happen to the price as I understand it should be $20 LT. Perhaps I could live with $25 LT since its high season when I arrive but not 25 ST.Anything else out there?
And any word on those $5/pop local places?
PT[/QUOTE]
PT
You only go to SR to see the temples, you go to PP, S'ville for P4P.
Shamas
[QUOTE=Shamas]PT
You only go to SR to see the temples, you go to PP, S'ville for P4P.
Shamas[/QUOTE]
Hi Shamas,
Not sure if you are in-country yet but Hope you're having a good time anyway.
Problem is I will be in SR for about 3 (maybe 4) days and dont know if I can hold out that long without a decent bonking (without spoiling the market price of course.)-- You know that withdrawal syndrome can get real nasty--ha ha
PT
>Matt Navan: Not sure what you mean??
>Phantomtiger2: I would say that for a cheaper price you should try to pick up a girl in such places as Martini or others, where they work as freelance. But I'm not sure there is a big choice in SR. In PP this is definitely an option.
[QUOTE=Samu Ray]I Visited Phnom Penh and Siem Reap At the end of 2005. Yeah! There are at least six massage places on the street straight past the bridge, by the old market. I took three girls in three different nights from Hollywood Massage for all night to my hotel. I paid $20 for each. Sure they wanted more, but, if you walk away prices will drop!
It is a fish bowl set up. There are few tables in front of the girls to sit and have a beer. Seems to be a popular place, girls are always on the move, they are all Vietnamese.
Before reaching "Hollywood", on the same side there is another joint, massage place, it has big parking lot, it must have close to 100 girls, both Viet and Cambodian. I paid $20 for a girl, all night! They looked to be over 18, all young.
I also visited Tokyo Massage, they were no better than the girls at Hollywood and the pimp asked $50 short time! [/QUOTE]I would like to ask, how one gets a girl for a whole night from those fishbowl massage places? Do you just negotiate with a papason and pay to him for a whole night?
It is easy! At any place where sex is sold, there is an attendant, usually male.
Observe what other customers do. Take your time. I spend from half an hour to one hour just looking around. Girls who are busy would come out in about
that time. When you find a girl you like talk to the attendant, how much would it be for the whole night for this girl? that`s it! if you think it is too high
move on. There is no shotage of massage joints in Siem Reap.
There is a bridge close to the old market you have to cross in order to visit
these massage places. You don`t even need to take a tuk tuk. I think they
open for business at 7.00 pm. The street is not paved. When in rains it sure
is muddy!
Someone reported that ¨Hollywood¨ massage is closed. There are others on
the same street. I remenber one with a big parking lot. Is is on the right side
as you pass the bridge. Girls, over 50, sit in rows. If you get to the parking
lot you could take a look at them. They would not see you, they face slightly
to the right.
If you find a good place, report it, that way we will help each other!
Good luck!
Phnom Penh is a bigger place. Probably you need a tuk tuk. A while back one
of those drivers took me to a place where I found a nice girl for $10, all night! I have no idea where this place was! It was night time!
[QUOTE=Masked Avenge]Hey Prince Harry,
What's the name of the late night club? Any other recommendations?[/QUOTE]
The khmer disco place was zoneone,recommended by a local.Only cambodians but there were nice beer girls and I believe they may be available after work.Otherwise martini dancing is fun and open all night.
Samu Ray: Thanks for advice, I will share my experiences.
Well, here’s an update on this season’s prices at least.
Managed to escape my tour group after dinner and asked a tuk-tuk driver to take me to Sok San Palace, as recommended here.
Lots of flashy lights outside, and inside the fishbowl looked reasonable – about 20 girls in all. Mostly young, some quite pretty, but the papasan guy was asking $80 US for a 1 hour massage and boom-boom. Not what I had read on this board, so I discussed lower prices with him but it was no deal. Eighty period. No bargaining. I left.
My tuk-tuk driver was still outside, and he said he knew another place, so off we went and it turned out to be Madonna’s across the bridge and further on from Martini’s bar. Much lower scale, dimly lit, lots of girls (about 30 in number) but also lower quality, although one caught my eye. Asked the price from the mamasan - $50 for 1 hour. Same story, take it or leave it. No bargaining. I left again, not willing to pay this much when I had read otherwise here.
The tuk-tuk driver took me to a third place – almost next door to Madonna’s, called Bopea. A former hotel (cheap one) now a straight-up bonking shop, much better fishbowl presentation than Madonna’s, better girls too, and $45 – again no budging from the price.
At this point it was clear the prices are fixed and you have to accept it or go back to your hotel and have a wank. There was a very cute girl on the front row, number 38, so I asked for her, paid the guy at reception, and then he told me it was strictly one hour and only massage and boom-boom – no blow job. He repeated this with emphasis. Then he said they’d had a customer who refused to pay because he didn’t get a blow job. I said, OK, cool, no blow job, thinking wtf?
When she came out of the fishbowl she looked quite young, so I asked for her ID and age (this is not the place to make a mistake like that) and she turned out to be 23. Upstairs to a long corridor of empty rooms, and in to a bare bedroom with two single beds side by side, a desk and a shower/toilet. Reasonably clean.
She was very cute, very pretty, and very inexperienced. Actually, the massage was good – she did know about that –but when it came time to boom-boom she got all coy and shy. I had to coach her through it. In a way, this was kinda fun.
Nice body – though she had some red marks on her skin that looked odd – and nice trimmed bush. But everything was played very safe, all covered. No kissing, no daty, NO bj – just boom-boom.
But the boom-boom was very good. A Khmer girl. No English whatsoever. And very enjoyable.
It seems there’s a major convention coming into town next month – some 25,000 people per day expected for a cultural exhibition of some kind. Lasts two months, December to January. Maybe this is affecting the prices.
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Jovon,
Thanks for your current report as I will be visiting in a week. I too would have gone around like you and wouldnt pay those high prices after reading all the solid advice here. The lady you ended up with was a good choice and thanks for the pics.
Ive read here before that sometimes the hotels can arrange something so I might try that route. Enjoy the rest of your trip.
[QUOTE]I've read here before that sometimes the hotels can arrange something so I might try that route. [/QUOTE]That is an option, yes, but my hotel quoted $25 for the service. That makes it less attractive since the prices in Siem Reap are already high for this area.
Plus, you don't get to choose your lady - unless you want the hassle of sending back the ones you don't want.
SR is a very small town. It's easy to get around by tuk-tuk, and most of the drivers know how to help you get what you want.
Good luck.
In a country where the prices in the major city, are 10-15 ST, it seems really a non-sense to be asked for 80, or even 45.
Simply ridiculous.
[QUOTE=Bill The Kill]>Matt Navan: Not sure what you mean??
>Phantomtiger2: I would say that for a cheaper price you should try to pick up a girl in such places as Martini or others, where they work as freelance. But I'm not sure there is a big choice in SR. In PP this is definitely an option.[/QUOTE]
In siem riep this is an option as well,numerous freelancers at martinis and places like zone one have cute beer girls.
It has been almost two years since I was last in Siem Reap, but I paid $10 short time. If I remember correctly $5 was also available but I paid a bit more for some extras. There are several small brothels around town in the 'original' Kmer style - basically a shack. The only one for which I can remember a location was near the Golden Temple Villa - a cheesy tourist hotel in which I stayed for $15/night. This house was across the street on the way out, I think few hundred feet towards the main street.
[QUOTE=Opebo]It has been almost two years since I was last in Siem Reap, but I paid $10 short time. If I remember correctly $5 was also available but I paid a bit more for some extras. There are several small brothels around town in the 'original' Kmer style - basically a shack. The only one for which I can remember a location was near the Golden Temple Villa - a cheesy tourist hotel in which I stayed for $15/night. This house was across the street on the way out, I think few hundred feet towards the main street.[/QUOTE]
Latest update: As the last intel was 2 years ago.
I just left SR and the Golden Temple Villa is all the way at the end of this little street. Along the way to the villa (to the right) there will be 3 "massage" places that opens almost all day and nite..(all 3 are bunch together--- If not sure which is the massage places that offer all options, just go after sunset (about 6pm) and these places all have this dim pink lighting to them. I walked in to all 3 places but the quality was either bad to just so-so and I passed on all 3 places. I did check on prices so Neg. prices can get massage + FS for about $15 and $10 for FS without the massage.
Note: the Khmer brothels across from the hotel/villa are no longer there. They have all become local stores for selling water/cigarettes or food places.
As I'm still in Cambo now, and dont really have the time to post reports, I will try to give more details when I return home and have more time to write.
PT
[QUOTE=Prince Harry]In siem riep this is an option as well,numerous freelancers at martinis and places like zone one have cute beer girls.[/QUOTE]
I have read some discussion on which Martini was better, the one in PP or SR.
Since I just been to both, Here's My opinion (agree or not as its just my thoughts only),
The Martini in PP is much better.--IMO
1)Bigger place with much more to see and do
2)Many more and therefore better selection of FL (over half the gals at SR Martini had their boyfriends or friends with them)-more difficult to separate the players from the non-players. Most of the gals in PP were players.
3)Not as dark or loud as the one in SR--sometimes it was so pitch dark there I was stumbling over everyone's foot.
4)Prices for FL --they tend to ask much higher prices in SR (richer tourist visit I guess) and bigger hassle to talk prices down to earth.
PT
Just a quick plug for the Golden Orange Hotel in SR. I stayed there for a couple of nights and really liked the place. The western owner takes care of the place like it should be taken care of. The staff is great and the place is new and clean. They have a nice outside bar and the neighborhood is safe.
Very good place to stay
Shamas O'Dognasty
Shamas, we think alike. I just logged in to mention the Golden Orange Hotel in Siam Reap. It's touted by the Flamingo Hotel in Phnom Penh, that's how I heard about it.
$20 + tax, for aircon, TV with good cable, fridge, brkfst, free pickup from the airport or bus station.
The owner, Doug is from San Francisco and Austin, Texas. He runs a tight ship. The place is very clean and the staff is friendly and helpful. It's a 15 minute walk north of the market and the nightlife area, but closer to Angkor Wat. I walked often, and took Tuk Tuks.
Doug couldn't have been more helpful to me. Answered every question and took me on his moto or in his car about 6 times to run errands, get money, but airline tickets, go looking for P4P or for dinner. He knows every place in town and is willing to share info.
The bar has a computer with 25,000 songs, so I spent a few nights sipping drinks with Doug, playing music and meeting some of the regulars at the bar. Several internet computers with Skype (allows international phone calls for very cheap-need to subscribe).
Favorite place for girls in Siam Reap was Blue Wave. Went there twice. Met a Kmer girl named Shwalee, or something like that. Said she was 27 with no kids, but I thought more like 22. Only 20 words of English, but a great attitude and sense of humor.
First time I took her home for the night, $25 fixed price to the bar, plus I gave her some taxi money. She was very happy.
Second time, I took her to the back room of Blue Wave. Pretty clean, shower, not bad at all, $15. It showed up on my bar tab: 2 Rum and Cokes = $5, Other = $15. Afterward, she fed me peanuts, snuggled, laughed, spoke in Kmer, and we enjoyed ourselves while we waited for Doug.
I'd recommend Hotel Golden Orange.
As for the temples of Angkor Wat. I've always wanted to see them, and I finally got my chance. I have to say that I've seen so many temples in the last 25 years, that I'm sort of templed out. I really wasn't that impressed. I'm only speaking for myself, but 4 hours was enough. Others that I talked to spent a full day or parts of 3 days.
Actually, one of the highlights of Siam Reap for me was the hot air balloon view of Angkor Wat and surroundings. It only costs $15. It's located between Ankgor Wat and the airport. You take a Tuk Tuk, he'll wait to take you back to Siam Reap, for about $3-5 round trip.
You don't have to enter the Temple Area ($20) to get to the hot air balloon. It doesn't float freely, it's always tethered to the ground. Total time 10 minutes to go up to almost 500 feet and a pretty good view of the temples about 2 miles away.
On to Laos. I know things will slow down there,
If you are near Pub st then its Located on a small st. to the north near the road to the airport. Better to take a motodop as its about a 15min walk in total darkness on some of the streets to get there.
The place is a little better than Martini (at least the one in SR). This is more a local's place so many Khmer here and didnt see any foreigners other than myself there. But friendly enough atmosphere so no need to worry here. The pick up of FL at Zone One was about same as SR's Martini--about half were there for your money and other half with friends on nite out or with boyfriends. Downside: the ones there for your money were not cute as compared to the unavailable ones--there were some stunners but all had Khmer boyfriends (or perhaps the Khmer boys hired these gals out). I say boys as they all look under 20 or less.
The only reasons its better here is that:
1) Its a much more fancier place than Martini
2) the music is not as loud here
3) better lighting--not as dark so easier to check the gals out
4)there seems to be about 5 gals (hostess) when you 1st enter the door--not 100% sure what the going rate was as the one time I visited here there were no Mama or Pappa around at the time to ask for pricing and policy details on the gals. (Tried speaking with the gals themselves but didnt know enough english to respond well).--like I said, more a local place. But from previous post--there maybe a bar fine involved along with the price for gal.--not 100% sure as no Mama to answer any of my questions at the time.
PT
[QUOTE=Dboy]Shamas, we think alike. I just logged in to mention the Golden Orange Hotel in Siam Reap. It's touted by the Flamingo Hotel in Phnom Penh, that's how I heard about it.
$20 + tax, for aircon, TV with good cable, fridge, brkfst, free pickup from the airport or bus station.
The owner, Doug is from San Francisco and Austin, Texas. He runs a tight ship. The place is very clean and the staff is friendly and helpful. It's a 15 minute walk north of the market and the nightlife area, but closer to Angkor Wat. I walked often, and took Tuk Tuks.
Doug couldn't have been more helpful to me. Answered every question and took me on his moto or in his car about 6 times to run errands, get money, but airline tickets, go looking for P4P or for dinner. He knows every place in town and is willing to share info.
The bar has a computer with 25,000 songs, so I spent a few nights sipping drinks with Doug, playing music and meeting some of the regulars at the bar. Several internet computers with Skype (allows international phone calls for very cheap-need to subscribe).
Favorite place for girls in Siam Reap was Blue Wave. Went there twice. Met a Kmer girl named Shwalee, or something like that. Said she was 27 with no kids, but I thought more like 22. Only 20 words of English, but a great attitude and sense of humor.
First time I took her home for the night, $25 fixed price to the bar, plus I gave her some taxi money. She was very happy.
Second time, I took her to the back room of Blue Wave. Pretty clean, shower, not bad at all, $15. It showed up on my bar tab: 2 Rum and Cokes = $5, Other = $15. Afterward, she fed me peanuts, snuggled, laughed, spoke in Kmer, and we enjoyed ourselves while we waited for Doug.
I'd recommend Hotel Golden Orange.
As for the temples of Angkor Wat. I've always wanted to see them, and I finally got my chance. I have to say that I've seen so many temples in the last 25 years, that I'm sort of templed out. I really wasn't that impressed. I'm only speaking for myself, but 4 hours was enough. Others that I talked to spent a full day or parts of 3 days.
Actually, one of the highlights of Siam Reap for me was the hot air balloon view of Angkor Wat and surroundings. It only costs $15. It's located between Ankgor Wat and the airport. You take a Tuk Tuk, he'll wait to take you back to Siam Reap, for about $3-5 round trip.
You don't have to enter the Temple Area ($20) to get to the hot air balloon. It doesn't float freely, it's always tethered to the ground. Total time 10 minutes to go up to almost 500 feet and a pretty good view of the temples about 2 miles away.
On to Laos. I know things will slow down there,[/QUOTE]
We think alike ? My god man get help, lots of help right now! Mix your medication with lots of booze and see if Dr. Phil can work you in. He's actually gay and quite kinky. Another story for another board.
Doug and the Golden Orange provide a nice oasis for our type of traveler.
Shamas O'Dognasty
Gourmet Catering &
Septic Tank Cleaning
Dboy, where is the Blue Wave located in SR?
Thanks,
[QUOTE=Dboy]Favorite place for girls in Siam Reap was Blue Wave. Went there twice. Met a Kmer girl named Shwalee, or something like that. Said she was 27 with no kids, but I thought more like 22. Only 20 words of English, but a great attitude and sense of humor.
First time I took her home for the night, $25 fixed price to the bar, plus I gave her some taxi money. She was very happy.
Second time, I took her to the back room of Blue Wave. Pretty clean, shower, not bad at all, $15. It showed up on my bar tab: 2 Rum and Cokes = $5, Other = $15. Afterward, she fed me peanuts, snuggled, laughed, spoke in Kmer, and we enjoyed ourselves while we waited for Doug.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Ipohdog]Dboy, where is the Blue Wave located in SR?
Thanks,[/QUOTE]I popped in there 2 weeks ago about 8pm, had the place to myself and not one of the ladies there did anything for me, Maybe the good ones had yet to arrive or were busy in the st rooms already.The bar opens at 6pm.
little difficult to read on this map, might need to save it and then you can enlarge it.
[url]http://www.canbypublications.com/maps/srmapmain.htm[/url]
but walking north on Sivatha blvd past dead fish tower ( where I was staying)
hang a left at achamean street. Landmark is the hotel de la paix a very fancy and impressive place from the outside anyway.
The bar is a few shops down on the left side.The bar is not noted on this map. I saw the add in the Siem Reap Angkor visitors guide, free copies in most hotels and resturants.
Gohan39, thanks. I wouldn't have been able to remember the location. I should also clarify, I only went to one other place looking for girls, Zannzybar. It was pretty dead.
So Blue Wave may not be the best, but it worked for me. I'm sure others are as good or better.
Pries being asked in SR are ridiculous,I was in le cyrcee in PP tonight and had the lovely girl in the room for 15 bucks all up and the koala bear tip.
Short timers from the walkabout and similar are stll 10 bucks.
I enjoyed zoneone in SR especially the beer girls but I always liked martini dancing better.
PP is great at the moment,many more girls than barang tourists.
Heart of darkness has some nice freelancers and the place just goes off all night....
Hi guys,
I'm gona visit Siem Reap for my vacation.
Can any one recommend decend cheap hotel near to town area?
Gohan, thanks for the detaild info. I'm not going to PP & SR for another few months. just doin my homework ;)
Will ensure I right up some FR afterwards & let you know if I find somewhere new.
BOW WOW
[QUOTE=Gohan39]I popped in there 2 weeks ago about 8pm, had the place to myself and not one of the ladies there did anything for me, Maybe the good ones had yet to arrive or were busy in the st rooms already.The bar opens at 6pm.
little difficult to read on this map, might need to save it and then you can enlarge it.
[url]http://www.canbypublications.com/maps/srmapmain.htm[/url]
but walking north on Sivatha blvd past dead fish tower ( where I was staying)
hang a left at achamean street. Landmark is the hotel de la paix a very fancy and impressive place from the outside anyway.
The bar is a few shops down on the left side.The bar is not noted on this map. I saw the add in the Siem Reap Angkor visitors guide, free copies in most hotels and resturants.[/QUOTE]
I will be in Cambodia next week. Probably at the Ivy Guest House. Any knowledge out there about this place? Take home friendly? I am not a big time monger and prefer to have things come easy. Any of the massage places close to this guest house?
Anyone know the likelyhood of the staff calling in for an in room massage like some other hotels mentioned in this thread?
Thanks for any thoughts,
Wham.
[QUOTE=Wham39]I will be in Cambodia next week. Probably at the Ivy Guest House. Any knowledge out there about this place? Take home friendly? I am not a big time monger and prefer to have things come easy. Any of the massage places close to this guest house?
Anyone know the likelyhood of the staff calling in for an in room massage like some other hotels mentioned in this thread?
Thanks for any thoughts,
Wham.[/QUOTE]
I pass by Ivy GH when I was in SR recently (actually there are two places with this name) Ivy GH and Ivy-2 GH, both are near each other. Location is good as its near all the bars but didnt go inside to see any of the rooms so you need to find out when you arrive. Its only about a 10min walk across the bridge to Martini disco and the brothels about 300-400m further pass Martini. Negotiate hard as the take out prices at the brothels are quite high when you first ask. Martini FL are usually good to go all nite for $20.
PT
Dear Bros,
I'll be in PP and SR for a holiday with my buddy. Are there any massage parlours or SPAs that is worth venturing that provide extra service? As for the WLs, are there Vietnamese or Chinese girls available. Where can they be found? Please recommend.
Cheers.
[QUOTE=GreenHornet]Dear Bros,
I'll be in PP and SR for a holiday with my buddy. Are there any massage parlours or SPAs that is worth venturing that provide extra service? As for the WLs, are there Vietnamese or Chinese girls available. Where can they be found? Please recommend.
Cheers.[/QUOTE]
GH.
For SR, just read my 3 previous post below for a quick guide , post #120, 111 and 107
Remember this is SR and not that great a place for mongering compared to PP or Snooky or even Thailand--but great for ancient temples. It should be the main reason why you are going here.
Note: never came across any PRC gals in SR but some Viets and Khmer or mix of both available.
For PP--too much info to recommend, suggest you go to PP thread and check info there. Just remember to avoid St 63 brothels and you'll be fine.
PT
[QUOTE=Phantomtiger2]GH,
For SR, just read my 3 previous post below for a quick guide , post #120, 111 and 107
Remember this is SR and not that great a place for mongering compared to PP or Snooky or even Thailand--but great for ancient temples. It should be the main reason why you are going here.
Note: never came across any PRC gals in SR but some Viets and Khmer or mix of both available.
For PP, suggest you go to PP thread and check info there. Just remember to avoid St 63 brothels and you'll be fine.
PT[/QUOTE]
Bro PT,
Thank you for the tips. Merry Xmas!!
GH
I spent 5 days in Siam Reap and had a great time between the temples and the massage/brothel/bar scene. I agree with others that it is not the scene of the capitol but I found more than enough to do. Unfortunately, I lost the few notes I had and can't be more specific.
I stayed at the Mandalay Inn near the central market which was girl friendly for 20$ per night with a/see and hot water. The staff was extremely helpful. As a matter of fact, the wife of the owner was always around and at one point gave me directions to a few Viet brothels which were within a five minute walk of the hotel. While bouncing here babies on her knees. She was also helpful when a few of the more enthusiastic ladies showed up the next mornings. There was also a fish bowl disco/massage/restaurant place another 5 minutes away with an awesome selection of Khmer women. 30$ for an hour at the rather clean club or 40$ for an allnighter.
The most useful piece of information I have to share is the tuktuk or moto drivers. They are plentiful and won't leave you alone and all want to show you their places. Not unlike other places in Cambodia including Kampot and Battambang. I found the bar scene including Martini's, the fish bowl places and all the various Viet brothels around. I usually picked the driver with the best English and they always proved to be helpful. From the central market area, all the places were within 5 or 10 minutes and cost about a dollar at most to get to.
I actually preferred the Khmer women as I found the young, petite, pretty Viets to be rather cold fishes. The taxi drivers try and sell you the Viet scene because they get a small cut. Perhaps a dollar. Your mileage may vary of course but I really enjoyed the Khmer despite their lack of desire for oral sex. They loved getting it but would not reciprocate.
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[QUOTE=Shamas]Just a quick plug for the Golden Orange Hotel in SR. I stayed there for a couple of nights and really liked the place. The western owner takes care of the place like it should be taken care of. The staff is great and the place is new and clean. They have a nice outside bar and the neighborhood is safe.
Very good place to stay
Shamas O'Dognasty[/QUOTE]A newb here -- Shamas (or anyone who knows), is Golden Orange guest-friendly? I would surmise from your review that they are, but thought I'd check. Warm thanks.
Took a 6-hour bus tour from Pnom Penh to Siem Reap. Mekong tour charges $10 but Capitol Tour only charges $4. Mekong's buses have toilets whereas Capitol's do not. That means their buses dont have to stop every hour so some old ladies can water the weeds on the side of the road, and recharge their vibrators, etc... hehehe.
Sovann's brother Ek picked me up at the bus station, found me a nice hotel Ta Promm near the old market and Bars St for $35 a night, took me to a travel agent to book my flight and visas out of Siem Reap, all for $5. It was well worth it.
Hang around the market and Bars st. In the afternoon, a Korean dance group did a half-hour long traditional drum dance on the street. Very interesting. Went to the Temple restaurant for dinner when at 8PM they have Cambodian traditional dances which resemble Thai/Burmese dances with fancy costumes and lots of gestures. They also had a more authentic dance featuring the farmers and their girls in their basic daily routines, catching fish, romancing, and presumably fucking afterward.
The troop consists of very young boys and girls. Their dances were both happy and sad, and very rich. I was thinking, how had they gone through a genocide a generation ago when every 1 out of 4 was bludgeoned to death? Who would ever want to hurt this gentle people?
Knowing Asian cultures where artists are ruthlessly exploited and despised, I went back stage to meet the troop. There were about 20 of them crammed into the small filthy room back stage. The main 4 female dancers were very pretty and about 20 YO. The rest of the troops are dark, skinny young kids, some 8,9 YO, all do some support work and certain bit parts in dances. These kids are the children of the genocide survivors. I was moved by their circumstances, so on behalf of my mongering bros, I offered each one of them a donation, with a deep bow, wishing them happiness in this life and the other 7 lives in their religious belief. They all bowed back with appreciation. I hope I helped them a little bit to preserve whatever Cambodian culture and arts that are left after their horrific genocide.
Done with supporting the arts, immediately switched to supporting the raging libido. Walked outside, a motoman proposed girls for $30. I told him flat out that my rate is $20 or 8,000 Riel. He immediately agreed. He took me to a side street where there are a number of Vietnamese brothels. Dozen girls hang out in front of these houses, waiting for johns. Picked a very pretty Viet girl and rode back to the hotel. Had to pay the pimp upfront so this may be a servitude arrangement. She was very nice, sweet and sexy. Would do her again anytime.
The Angkor wats are some massive religious ruins in the middle of the jungle with thousands of tourists trampling through everyday. There are villages of Cambodian living around the ruins. Due to time constraints, I had to arrange a private driver through the hotel to take me to visit the ruins, costing $40. The hotel girls and Ek were saying it would be a lot of driving and the $40 is fair, but I think that may be high. It may be economical for 4 people sharinhg but not for a solo monger. There are other cheaper alternatives, including renting tuk tuk or your own motorbikes and do your own tour with a map. That may be the best way to explore the ruins since there are no convenient parking spaces for cars anywhere.
The Viet girls dominate the sex industry in Cambodia but I should have tried the Khmer girls, as they appear shier and more reserved. They were always smiling sweetly and avoiding eye contacts. The Viet girls were a lot more forward and communicative. I was flirting heavily with the Khmer desk girls at both Flamingo and Ta Promm hotels but were unable to get a kiss ans a squeeze out of them. They dont know what they are missing by avoiding the passionate sex artist who has been appreciated, and should have been well paid for, by women all over the world.
This small town and the ruins deserve longer vacations when everything can be more intimately explored...
[QUOTE=One Wing Low], I had to arrange a private driver through the hotel to take me to visit the ruins, costing $40. The hotel girls and Ek were saying it would be a lot of driving and the $40 is fair, but I think that may be high. It may be economical for 4 people sharinhg but not for a solo monger. There are other cheaper alternatives, including renting tuk tuk or your own motorbikes and do your own tour with a map. That may be the best way to explore the ruins since there are no convenient parking spaces for cars anywhere.
...[/QUOTE]
$40 for the taxi for one person is a bit on the high side (normal should be about $25).
Note: you cant rent a motobike in SR as there is a law against non-residents renting. For single traveler, hire a motodriver for $7-8 a day is the way to go( unless its the rainy season when you might want some cover over your head).
PT
[QUOTE=One Wing Low]Went to the Temple restaurant for dinner when at 8PM they have Cambodian traditional dances which resemble Thai/Burmese dances with fancy costumes and lots of gestures. They also had a more authentic dance featuring the farmers and their girls in their basic daily routines, catching fish, romancing, and presumably fucking afterward.
The troop consists of very young boys and girls. Their dances were both happy and sad, and very rich. I was thinking, how had they gone through a genocide a generation ago when every 1 out of 4 was bludgeoned to death? Who would ever want to hurt this gentle people?
Knowing Asian cultures where artists are ruthlessly exploited and despised, I went back stage to meet the troop. There were about 20 of them crammed into the small filthy room back stage. The main 4 female dancers were very pretty and about 20 YO. The rest of the troops are dark, skinny young kids, some 8,9 YO, all do some support work and certain bit parts in dances. These kids are the children of the genocide survivors. I was moved by their circumstances, so on behalf of my mongering bros, I offered each one of them a donation, with a deep bow, wishing them happiness in this life and the other 7 lives in their religious belief. They all bowed back with appreciation. I hope I helped them a little bit to preserve whatever Cambodian culture and arts that are left after their horrific genocide.
This small town and the ruins deserve longer vacations when everything can be more intimately explored...[/QUOTE]
I also went to the Temple rest. for the Apsara dancing less than a month ago and must have saw a different show. I didnt see any young kids in my show, only 4 ladies and 4 guys doing some dance (all about 19-25 y/o).
I never thought of going backstage to meet the people.
Nice touch giving some tips to the dancers.
Not much to SR as this is a small town and I went to the Angkor sites every day for 4 days and I was getting a little temple burnout, so 4 days should be the max here. (one day is not enough and 5 days is too much--IMO)
PT
Thanks for the help from Phantomtiger2. I looked for the massage parlours on the street of the golden villa temple (hope I got that right). The street is just to the west of the market and the last street before hitting the bridge. I walked into the 1st one and the girls crowded around. Really not much there. I asked for the price of the massage and was told $3.00. Being the cheap bastard that I am I thought this sounded ok. Another young lady then appeared (I think her name was yan). She had average looks but seemed to have a sweet attitude. She took me up to the 2nd floor where there was a mattress on the floor. I asked her to put a towel over the sheet. This room was not what I would call squalid but the walls need painting very bad. However, there was no bad odor or smell. I got undressed and Yan immediately undressed as well. She had a little extra around her midriff, but other than that, nice titties with nice nipples and a good body overall.
Yan ended up giving me a great bbbj cim. She shined up the boys quite nicely with her tongue and was always in a good mood and smiling. So refreshing after being around American women with the chips on their shoulders. Afterward, Yan left but came back with clippers and gave me a very nice pedicure. I gave her a $20 tip and she seemed very pleased.
I was leaving the next day and instead of exploring more, I headed back to the same street for the day before. As I walked by, Yan came running over and through her arms around me and started kissing my chest and putting her head against my chest like a long lost lover. It was actually toughing. She was having breakfast with her little girl who started wailing because mom was leaving her for a few moments for a customer. Again, we went up stairs and I got a great massage, great sex and this time she left me for a moment and came back with the clippers once more and gave me a manicure. Talk about getting spoiled. Again, she is not a beauty, but it would not bother me to be seen with her anywhere else in the world....The prices in Cambodia are just unbelievable. In the hotel restaurant the entrees were typically $2.50.
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I stayed at City River Hotel, sharing a room with friend so I had to find my entertainment outside. Besides, the hotel charged you 10 USD if you took massage from outside.
A moto driver volunteered to find me a place with girls; "you can have a beer and look at the girls and choose". He took me to a big karaoke place, something like "…. Town" (sorry, have lost my notes), way out on the road to the airport. True: about 30 nicely dressed-up girls sitting on benches in the lobby, one or two stunners. ST was 50 USD (I thought the moto has said 15!), so I left after one beer.
We rode on to Blue Wave, a pretty small bar with a handful of girls inside and only two customers. I sat down at the inner corner of the L-shaped bar and in an instant I had a girl on each side. Both talked a bit English and the one on the right looked quite OK, nice face and smile. They encouraged me to take both of them to the room, but I settled for the right one, a good choice. Not so young, but nice body, good service and very friendly. We stayed a full hour with two pops. Room was fairly clean, part of a regular hotel, I think. Damage 15 USD + tip and beer. Would do her again.
Tried Sok San Palace next evening. From the fish bowl the girls can certainly see you: Of maybe 30 girls in three rows one beauty caught my eye, and soon she looked me in the eye, smiled and pointed to her nose: I had a piece of plaster on my nose after a small accident. Massage was 10 and boom boom 30 extra, so I settled for only the massage with this particular girl. When you take only massage the girls leave the door open, I suppose so the customers can't do any extra without the knowledge of the boss. The girl seemed a little disappointed to do only massage, but she liked when I touched her, and when the session was finished she went into the corner which was not visible from the door (the room was L-shaped) and let me kiss her, and touch and kiss her tits. Nice surprise! Tip well earned.
But I wanted more, so when a moto asked if I wanted a girl I said OK. We rode to a couple of small brothels before I found one with acceptable girls. The mama-san kept urging "One hour good massage good boom boom". She said 30 USD, I said 15, she said 20 and I started to leave so she said OK OK.
A petite Vietnamese cutie took me to the room. No shower, only a foot toilet. The girl had a nice firm body with extremely firm small tits, a real delight to caress and kiss. But she had inverted nipples, and I could not get the nipples hard and erected, no matter how much I kissed and licked! Strange. As I had a one hour session I let the first pop be quick. The girl went to the door and talked for a while with the mama-san, and then she started to dress! We had only been 15 minutes of the hour! Of course I refused to pay 15 USD. I had an argument with the mama-san about it, said she had given less than half of the agreed time,15 min out of one hour. I put 7 dollars on the table and left. The mama-san came after me to the moto but I was firm. It was a pity, I would have liked a full hour with that girl, even if she talked no English.
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[QUOTE=Chukichz]Thanks for the help from Phantomtiger2. I looked for the massage parlours on the street of the golden villa temple (hope I got that right). The street is just to the west of the market and the last street before hitting the bridge. I walked into the 1st one and the girls crowded around.
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Glad to be of help and also that you had a good time--thats reward enough for me.
See you never even made it past the 1st house. Hope you realize from my previous post that there were 2 more after that. But passing that extra 50meters was the tough part--ha ha
She was probably all over you the 2nd time because the high tip was not what she is use to.
Cheers
PT
For my last day in Siam Reap I moved to Golden Orange as recommended by forum members. From my room at 5th floor (no elevator!) I had a nice view of the back yards: two crocodile farms, see picture!
I had hired a tuktuk for the entire day (the temple thing), and in the evening I told him I wanted to find a pretty girl to take to the hotel. First he took me to a small brothel in an alley opposite Blue Wave. Nothing attractive. Next stop another brothel inside a gate on a street crossing the airport road. Maybe 20 girls but no stunner, and the papa-san wanted 30 for ST and 40 for "sleep". Further up the same street there was a place with a red lamp right on the pavement and a number of girls sitting outside. I sat down for a look; the mama-san agreed to 20 USD for "sleep" which I by now understood was same as LT. But all the girls were sulky, not one of the smiled at me or even looked at me, and I realised I would not have any fun with any of them.
Now the tuktuk had tried and failed three times so I decided to fall back on ISG reports: I told him to go to Zone One, which turned out be a bit down the same street.
A few cuties in the lobby, and as I approached the bar a passing by girl patted my belly, I grabbed her hand and said "see you later". But I had just filled my glass when a princess with a radiating smile walked towards me. I said "How are you"? And she replied "Twentyfyh". Oh-oh! I bought her a drink and asked if she wanted to come with me. She said OK. "Sleep?" She asked the bartender to write the figure 50 on a piece of paper. I wrote 20 but she did not understand. Finally we agreed on 30, danced a bit and off to the hotel. Now the second round of negotiation started. Her English was not so good and she could not read, so writing numbers on paper did not work. "Sleep" was for her actually sleeping, not an all-nighter; she had a baby to attend to at home so she could only stretch herself till midnight. She said "Massage, boom boom," I said "Boom boom, massage, boom boom", she said "Boom boom, sleep, boom boom". OK. She had such a pretty face and incredible soft silk hair, soft skin and … lactating tits.
When I penetrated her deep missionary, her legs on my shoulders, something happened and she cried out in pain. I am not [highlight]that[/highlight] big so I have no idea what had happened. I gave her a painkiller and she fell asleep. She woke up after one hour, still in pain, and said with a very thin, soft voice "Lady go home". What could I do other than let the princess go? I paid her full and she said "See you tomorrow". I would have liked to, but I was going back to Phnom Penh in the morning.
If I ever come back to Siam Reap I'd go to Blue Wave and Zone One.
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[QUOTE=Barri]But I wanted more, so when a moto asked if I wanted a girl I said OK. We rode to a couple of small brothels before I found one with acceptable girls. The mama-san kept urging "One hour good massage good boom boom". She said 30 USD, I said 15, she said 20 and I started to leave so she said OK OK.
a one hour session I let the first pop be quick. The girl went to the door and talked for a while with the mama-san, and then she started to dress! We had only been 15 minutes of the hour! Of course I refused to pay 15 USD. I had an argument with the mama-san about it, said she had given less than half of the agreed time,15 min out of one hour. I put 7 dollars on the table and left. The mama-san came after me to the moto but I was firm. It was a pity, I would have liked a full hour with that girl, even if she talked no English.
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Barri,
If they say massage and boom boom for 1 hour just means you have a maximum of 1 hr to get one pop out. Once you pop-(regardless of how short a time), the session is over.
BTW: $7 for your one pop (without a massage) at a local brothel is fair price as the original $20 was way too much.
PT
[QUOTE=Barri] She said 30 USD, I said 15, she said 20 and I started to leave so she said OK OK.
A petite Vietnamese cutie took me to the room. No shower, only a foot toilet. The girl had a nice firm body with extremely firm small tits, a real delight to caress and kiss. But she had inverted nipples, and I could not get the nipples hard and erected, no matter how much I kissed and licked! Strange. As I had a one hour session I let the first pop be quick. The girl went to the door and talked for a while with the mama-san, and then she started to dress! We had only been 15 minutes of the hour! Of course I refused to pay 15 USD. I had an argument with the mama-san about it, said she had given less than half of the agreed time,15 min out of one hour. I put 7 dollars on the table and left. The mama-san came after me to the moto but I was firm. It was a pity, I would have liked a full hour with that girl, even if she talked no English.[/QUOTE]
Well Barri, at least you still rank well behind Pol Pot, Ta Mok, and Dick Nixon in terms of your benevolence and generosity to the Cambodian people.
[QUOTE=Phantomtiger2]Barri,
If they say massage and boom boom for 1 hour just means you have a maximum of 1 hr to get one pop out. Once you pop-(regardless of how short a time), the session is over.
BTW: $7 for your one pop (without a massage) at a local brothel is fair price as the original $20 was way too much.
PT[/QUOTE]Yes, Phantomtiger2, this is what it is in most places, but as I had had another experience more or less just round the corner, at Blue Wave, I assumed this was general in SR; I have found that there sometimes are town specific customs and rules. Also I mean I had verified with the mama-san: "One hour?", "One hour." Besides, like I said, the girls herself seemed to have been prepared to continue.
As for Member #2041's comment I don't get it. Never mind.
[quote=barri] i had an argument with the mama-san about it, said she had given less than half of the agreed time, 15 min out of one hour. i put 7 dollars on the table and left. the mama-san came after me to the moto but i was firm. it was a pity, i would have liked a full hour with that girl, even if she talked no english. [/quote]barri,
phnom penh,
about 6 weeks ago i was on an afternoon tour of the cambodian low-class places i think on the road to k-11. i didn't find anything worthy of going into one of those decrepit rooms for so we're leaving the area.
we drive by one place we we're at 10 minutes before and hear a glass break and lot's of yelling. i look over and see a cambodian guy with his hands covering his face. i don't know if he was hit in the face with a flying bottle or what.
my driver just keeps driving the moto and he say's to me, " some guys, they don't like to pay after they finish with the lady. "
wow! scary is what that was, i never thought about these smiling people losing their cool like this. all i could think about that day was this guys hands holding his face (i didn't get a long enough look to see if any blood appeared as we were soon gone from the scene.)
my point is, keep this in the back of your mind next time you don't pay the agreed upon price. yes i realise you felt they didn't keep up their end of the deal but they were arguing with you when you left so good thing no bottles went flying in your direction. or worse (if you use your imagination.)
glad you came out of this unrep001hed, thanks for the report.
[QUOTE=Barri]
As for Member #2041's comment I don't get it. Never mind.[/QUOTE]
OK, I'll explain it to you: I hope you feel good about shorting some poor working girl in the poorest country on earth $8 Which, to you, is nothing, but to her, is equivalent to several days wages in her world. Keep in mind that it was the Mama-san who you negotiated with, but the actual girl (who, as you well know, speaks no English, and has no clue what the Mama-san and you talked about) is who you shafted for $8.
As for Pol Pot, Ta Mok, and Dick Nixon, well, their crimes against the Cambodian citizenry were all substantially worse than yours - so you can take some measure of comfort in that - maybe even enough to sleep at night, knowing that they've already lived through much worse.
And BTW, while $5-10 may be a reasonable price in Phnom Penh, the prices in Siem Reap are higher - $15 to $20 being the going rate for 1 pop.
[QUOTE=Member #2041]... $8 Which, to you, is nothing, but to her, is equivalent to several days wages in her world...
...As for Pol Pot, Ta Mok, and Dick Nixon...[/QUOTE]Actually it would not have been several days but another 45 minutes, which was my point.
And you are seriously putting this "crime" on the same scale as the torture and killing of 1.7 (some say 3) million people? I wonder what the survivors would feel about this.
Maybe you can sleep well at night if I comfort you by saying that when the service is as agreed I tip good, directly to the girl. Anyway, I like that there is someone to defend the rights of the girls.
[QUOTE=Barri]And you are seriously putting this "crime" on the same scale as the torture and killing of 1.7 (some say 3) million people? I wonder what the survivors would feel about this. [/QUOTE]
No, as I noted, Pol Pot, Ta Mok, and Dick Nixon's transgressions were all substantially worse than yours. My point was, you were, in an extremely petty way, simply abusing folks who already were among the most abused people on earth, and I hoped you felt good about it. And secondly, that the person you effectively punished was NOT the person who had actually "agreed" to your perception of the terms of service. But cheer up - you are $8 richer for it, and this poor girl only probably lost a couple of days pay in the process. Congratulations on your windfall at her expense.
I found quite a few farangs riding around the ruins in motorbikes.
This can be a very pleasant way to visit the ruins unless it rains. Also the roads are narrow. You just have to yield to the cars and buses.
[QUOTE=Phantomtiger2]$40 for the taxi for one person is a bit on the high side (normal should be about $25).
Note: you cant rent a motobike in SR as there is a law against non-residents renting. For single traveler, hire a motodriver for $7-8 a day is the way to go( unless its the rainy season when you might want some cover over your head).
PT[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=One Wing Low]I found quite a few farangs riding around the ruins in motorbikes.
This can be a very pleasant way to visit the ruins unless it rains. Also the roads are narrow. You just have to yield to the cars and buses.[/QUOTE]
Non resident=Tourist or people not living in SR.
Moto rental rules for SR applies to Non-residents only -(both farang or asian). Rules dont apply for farangs living/ working in SR--I heard even they are stopped once in awhile to show proof as cops not sure of their status. They can rent or own and ride anywhere they want as they are almost considered locals.
Also, this rule dont apply to the newer electric motobikes thats being rented in SR (only the faster more powerful gas powered ones). Remember, if you are caught riding a regular moto, be prepared for a stiff fine.
PT
Went to Blue Zone, must have been late (2 am?), and I was feeling pretty tired. The girls there weren't up to much except for one who was fawning over some Belgian dude so I got some tips on where else I could go, finished my beer and left.
Got a tuktuk to a nightclub that's close to Blue Wave: out the door turn left and then it's just down one of the right turns. Place is couple of hundred metres down the road. Got there and the place is closing - everyone's coming out. Luckily the motorbike driver says he knows some place so we head off.
Directions from Blue Wave are: out the door head left for aboout 200M and turn right by Jasmine Anchor restaurant (very bright lights). After about 100m on the lefthandside there is what appears to be a small shop selling drinks etc. At nearly 3 am however, there were several women standing outside. It was quite dark so difficult to tell how attractive they were. Cost USD20 but think that the moto driver got quite a cut. Place was pretty dirty and the girl had a scowl on her face the entire time so came out feeling pretty dissatisfied.
The moto driver asked me where I wanted to go and I said back to Blue Wave however it was closed by the time we got back! Luckily enough I noticed a massage sign just near to Blue Wave so we drove down to take a look. Lo and behold there are a couple of girls all wearing miniskirts and the like. Quick bit of bargaining whilst eyeing them up and it costs USD 10 for one pop. She was much more into it than the first one and so I got going pretty quickly. Wasn't bad except for the moment when they shouted from outside to wonder why I hadn't finished yet! Much better than the first time so got moto back to hotel.
Address: If you're out the front of Blue Wave, massage sign is about 50m to your left on the opposite side of the road. You go down some kind of driveway and there's a sort of verandah on the righthand side.
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[QUOTE=Sigui]Went to Blue Zone,
Cost USD20 but think that the moto driver got quite a cut. Place was pretty dirty and the girl had a scowl on her face the entire time so came out feeling pretty dissatisfied.
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Dont remember any place called Blue Zone when I was at SR, where was this place located?
And yes, anywhere in Cambo the motodrivers always get a "cut" and added to your cost, but not always a bad thing as I consider it a finders fee for showing me places I otherwise might not find on my own.
PT
[QUOTE=Phantomtiger2]Dont remember any place called Blue Zone when I was at SR, where was this place located?
PT[/QUOTE]Actually, I think it was called Blue Wave! I did a quick google search of "Blue Wave" + "Siem Reap":
[url]http://www.yellowpages-cambodia.com/travel-and-tourism/guesthouses/blue-wave-club-24024.html[/url]
Also found this one!
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/archive/index.php/t-1806.html[/url]
Happy hunting!
[QUOTE=Sigui]Actually, I think it was called Blue Wave! [/QUOTE] And then there is Zone One.
[url]http://www.yellowpages-cambodia.com/restaurant-and-bar-guide/restaurants/zone-one-club-27688.html[/url]
I am not sure that the address in the Yellow Pages is correct, but it is more or less round the corner from Blue Wave.
[QUOTE=Barri]And then there is Zone One.
[url]http://www.yellowpages-cambodia.com/restaurant-and-bar-guide/restaurants/zone-one-club-27688.html[/url]
I am not sure that the address in the Yellow Pages is correct, but it is more or less round the corner from Blue Wave.[/QUOTE]
Not exactly round the corner but close enough to each other.
Finding an Address means almost nothing in SR as all those smaller side streets dont even have Street signs or names to them for anyone looking for them (but this seems to be common all over Cambo--except for PP).
PT
I'll be in SR on 9 March. I wanted to stay at Mandalay Inn. They quoted 15$ one Single. Does it mean that I have to pay to bring girls in? From your reports I understood it was GF.
Any other GF hotel about 20$ in the center zone?
[QUOTE=Fiddler]I'll be in SR on 9 March. I wanted to stay at Mandalay Inn. They quoted 15$ one Single. Does it mean that I have to pay to bring girls in? From your reports I understood it was GF.
Any other GF hotel about 20$ in the center zone?[/QUOTE]
Nope, GF means just that=no extra fee to bring guest back to room. Only thing is make sure bed is big enough to support 2 people as sometimes paying for a single bed means just that, you'll get a small "single" bed only.
PT
[QUOTE=Phantomtiger2]Nope, GF means just that=no extra fee to bring guest back to room. Only thing is make sure bed is big enough to support 2 people as sometimes paying for a single bed means just that, you'll get a small "single" bed only.
PT[/QUOTE]Thanks!
Anyway I booked a Double for 17$/night, just to be sure ... :)
Then I'll see how's the SR scene
Thanks for Phantomtiger2 and others for helpful hints. Here are my experiences (reported prices are just examples, you can try to bargain more):
First it seems that the prices in Siem Reap are quite reasonable. Price quotes might be high, but once they realize that you know the prices, prices will come down quickly. Here are some examples:
"Massage" places near Golden temple villa: there are three places providing sex, easily noticable from pink lights. If you don't see any cute girls from outside, you can still come in and ask to see more girls. Asking price for boom boom was $15 but they quickly settled for $10.
Taphul road: there are at least two places here. They are located one the left side of the road just before "Smileys guesthouse" if coming from Siem Reap. These places are also noticable from pink lights although they aren't directly visible to the outside (however, there are some girls standing on the street). Paid $7 (initial asking price was $10), the "room" was very basic, this it makes sense to bring a girl to the hotel :) Later I visited the other place, didn't find anybody cute, but girls offered boom boom for $5, thus I guess that the actual going rate is even below $5. Better start bargaining from $3 in these places :)
Sok San massage: fixed price for the massage is $5, FS is negotiable with the girl. I didn't take massage here, but I would guess that the $10 will be enough for the girl (total cost: $15). LT is $30.
I was a bit dissapointed by those massage places on the other side of the river. I noticed only four of them, the amount and the quality of girls was not very high and the prices were higher than reported here (maybe because of the high season?). Here are some pricing information:
Bophea quoted $35 for ST, LOL and the girls did not look anything special
Madonna: $40 for LT
Doremi (the first one after crossing the river) had more reasonable prices: after some bargaining was offered LT for $25
About Mandalay Inn: if you have a single occupancy then the joiner fee is $5. Thus it's makes sense to book a single, unless you will be bringing a girl every night in a room.
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thus I guess that the actual going rate is even below $5. Better start bargaining from $3 in these places :)
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Glad I could be helpful and most importantly, you had a good time.
I've posted in the past that although the local prices are much less ($2-3 thats what the locals pay), we outsiders cant really get that. I guess its a unwritten rule among themselves. They rather give up your business then settle on giving us local rates (believe me, I tried).
But for $2 more, its really not worth the time arguing over anyway. Unless you look like a movie star and would've gotten it for free anyway then starting the negotiation at $5 is the norm. in SR (Note: you may get lower prices in some backwood places in Cambo, but NOT in SR) .So stay loose and have a good time.
Keep your good reports cumming--reminds me of being there myself.
Cheers
PT
Someone knows how is GoldenTempleVilla (that is also near some massage places I understand) and if it's GF?
[QUOTE=Fiddler]Someone knows how is GoldenTempleVilla (that is also near some massage places I understand) and if it's GF?[/QUOTE]
The Golden Temple Villa is at the very end of the street where I posted the 3 massage joints that offer FS. I only past by the hotel but never stayed there so I cant guarantee if its GF. But since most places (although not all) are usually GF, the odds should be in your favor.
PT
[QUOTE=Phantomtiger2]The Golden Temple Villa is at the very end of the street where I posted the 3 massage joints that offer FS. I only past by the hotel but never stayed there so I cant guarantee if its GF. But since most places (although not all) are usually GF, the odds should be in your favor.
PT[/QUOTE]Thanks phantom!
I'll be there in a week and I have to decide between that and Mandalay Inn.
If you have seen both (at least from outside), which one is better in your opinion?
[QUOTE=Fiddler]Thanks phantom!
I'll be there in a week and I have to decide between that and Mandalay Inn.
If you have seen both (at least from outside), which one is better in your opinion?[/QUOTE]I've seen both and they both look decent from the outside (never been inside of either though) and when I visited, they were both about the same price range. Also, I've only seen them only at night as during the daytime I was busy touring Angkor sites.
Upside of Mandalay is the better location (right near Pub street and all the bars) and (only from what I read) this is GF place if you book a double.
Golden Villa is at the very end of a small street so away from the action (bars) but still within walking distance. (but unsure if it's GF).
Hope this helps.
PT
i arrive here yesterday by 2 bus transfer in pp from sihanoukville. price of bus good but ride 2-2 long. waste all day sitting on short seat. dunn think i could move out of chair when arrive. i feel like frozen ice.
touts everywhere when exit bus, all over my face and try to pull luggage away to his transport. i tell him hand off but dunn listen, only sez to me where i going. i tell him like to try dead fish place but dunn understand me or no commission from there for him. he drop me bags and try another sucker gettin off bus. i find differ. motoguy and he take me to deadfish in town. bus stop here is middle nowhere and far from town as ride took over 10min.
deadfish-funny place, not a real hotel but more a bar with a kitchen and some rooms. live band playin when i go there. drop off bags and walk around bit. place not big and many eating place outside deadfish. order din-din at one chinese looking place. food ok not great, small plates, 3 beers later i full though. paid $7 dindin and 3 beers
so back inside my room to shower but no hot water. go down and she tell me hot water extra $1. ok spend extra dollar worth the price. i find this normal in khmerland must pay extra for everything or you get nuttin. flamingo hotel good in pp cause one price pays all-no hassle.
i now call this place siem [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] and not siem reap cause they try to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] you for everthing. everything higher price here. also told me can't rent me own moto cause some stupid rule to make motodopes rich here. khmer mafia [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord125][CodeWord125][/url] me some more. no choice so talk to many outside for trip into temples of angwat for 2-3 days. dunn commit total days cause may leave early if dunn like.
motodriver sez $15 a day to rent his service? i sez no way cause my mate phantomtiger sez for just me should be no more then 7-8 all day service. i sez you no go then i point to another motodope. he then sez ok to $7 all day till 7am-7pm then after will be extra. surprise the bastard english very good when he talk money (again siem [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] in function). he ask me nite early want lady? more [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord125][CodeWord125][/url] by moto on me but no choice cause dunn know area. i tell dope want boom boom now. he drive me only 5 min in front of little wood shack. only 4 there but 1 catch me eyes. decent body and face. i ask mama sittin in front and sez to me $20.1hr. i say too much and look at my moto dope cause i know he maybe get half. i say will go to $10 only and sit on moto ready to wave and go. mama sez ok $10 but only 35min. i sez agree cause 35min all time i want in little dark wood shack anyhow.
short viet girl no more than 5 feet. cute face=6. 5, ok body with no fat=7, small titties but big nipples--i like to suck on them now with pants not off me yet. she cover tits and not let touch. no touch bottom. no bj.
want me to wash with bucket of cold water. shit mates, just took nice hot shower, dunn need cold bucket of shitty water on me clean body. she lie there and open leg and dunn do anything more. she cover her bottom with both hands when i look there? i push hands away and put dick in her. dry dry--hard to get inside. i try put some spit on me rubber and she move away in shock. dunn let me wet rubber touch her. she rip rubber off me quick---ouch!
put new one on me and try to slip me inside her. hard time and no good feelin-- she 2 dry. start to hurt me too.
i reach and found a small lube packet i carry round. i show her, but she dunn understand. i open pack and pour on me hands and have her feel it. she understand now. rub some on me shaft and now much better feel for 2 of us.
finish in 10 more min and put on clothes. she have hand out but i dunn tip her for such bad service. she sez something to me on way out. (maybe cheap in khmer but dunn care) and pay mamasan outside.
moto drop me off in hotel and i order another beer and listen to the band play. moto dope sez pick up in morning for 7am. i finish beer and go upstairs to bed (after washing me shaft clean 1st).
tomorrow another day in siem [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url].
pirate1 out for now
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well, considering what we in the west have visited on cambodia just a few decades ago, i really do not begrudge them charging us round-eyes double or triple the pitifully small going rate for locals on just about everything, so that they can maybe afford to build themselves some houses with actual roofs on them, perhaps a school that all the children can go to, and maybe even pay for a modicum of basic medical care as well.
i genuinely believe that in the grand scheme of things, in all of the interactions between western civilization and the khmer civilization of cambodia over the past 50 years, we are most assuredly not the ones who have been raped.
if you consider paying a hooker $20 for all night, or $10 for st to be exorbitant, or $1 for a tuk tuk ride when the locals pay 1000 riel, i think you might consider that we gave them all of our land mines and napalm shells without charging them anything for them, and out of our generosity, we never took back the undetonated ones that we left behind.
[quote=member #2041]well, considering what we in the west have visited on cambodia just a few decades ago, i really do not begrudge them charging us round-eyes double or triple the pitifully small going rate for locals on just about everything, so that they can maybe afford to build themselves some houses with actual roofs on them, perhaps a school that all the children can go to, and maybe even pay for a modicum of basic medical care as well.
if you consider paying a hooker $20 for all night, or $10 for st to be exorbitant, or $1 for a tuk tuk ride when the locals pay 1000 riel, i think you might consider that we gave them all of our land mines and napalm shells without charging them anything for them, and out of our generosity, we never took back the undetonated ones that we left behind.[/quote]
not to disagree. me not think 10-20$ too much to handle, itz the way they try to squeeze me that i feel almost violated -not physical but more mental [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] ,itz draining when all i need drain is me dick.
build school and everythin fall on the corrupt man in govt. and seen where all money go not to school /hospital but in pocket. i see many govt man live in mansion in pp and ride big ass lexus while me counterpart simple man drive bicycle. no problem if local man make out good but my complain they overuse and overdo it to me. once while ok but never ending when i in s. raped.-my opinions mostly.
also most of all them mines from them aholes of not me friends of pol pot and them vietg when they war--so local affairs mainly. also, we of west now only ones helping to find them minies so they can better them asses.
but me cheapie in general but not 2 cheap to help some local blokes out when i there and those who dunn bother ask me ([url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] me) get more from me.
check me new report when i finish to see why.
pirate1
before me next report, 1st the important stuff. had me usual angkor beer with lunch. itz good for the price-real beer flavor. forget them crown beer they sell us, taste like a cheap water down bud lite back home. ah, having me one angkor now as me type away in khmerland computer. 2 bad no can find this at home.
rise in morning bitchin. already 10am, shittin mates just shittin. no set alarm and now late. checkin if me motoguide outside. dunn know why zee bastard dunn come in and wake me ass up at 7 like he said yesterday. ok, no shower get me pants on and leave. moto dope outside smilin--bastard! i ask him and tell me dunn want to disturb me, mates- do i sound disturb now to yous?
anyhows, get on his moto and out we goes.
stop at angkor station gate with many tourist waitin on 3 lines all for permits into the angkor zoo. never seen these many buses since the last hurricane evac. all the 45min waiting in the f*king sun and still wanna [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] me for $40 permit fee--more disturbant in me head--need an angkor beer to cool down, f*k me own no beer in morning rule, needs it now.
forget them rules need passport photo for permit to temples. they take your ass photo while u wait for free. no wrong, not free, we pay good sum to get in.
almost noon sun now before i reach gate into angkor watz(east/west/nor/south) gate?--who cares, i is here at last.
nice big ass rock building. so glad cambo not really in earthquake zone or me ass could be buried here under a big pile.
not to go into them details as many will say a rock is a rock. well worth the kings ransom to get in though. i's surprise them letz people touch everything here. not like many other place in world where always no touchie or kick me ass out and no refund for doing so.
must come here if yous get the chance for an excape.
just to remind you nuts to not make me same mistake. dunn drink 2 much before climb steps up angkor wats, all them steps are f*king high and steep on zee way down, easy kill self this way. or simple push of wifey on vacation accident and no needz for quickie divorce settlements.
anywayz finish zee 1st day tour and back to hotel by 6pm. wantz to go up mountain for sunst but zee bastard moto dope has promise to f**k his girl by 630. no matter, tommorow i's back in angkor so no rush. bastard promise to wake me ass up at 7 am if me not out by then.
just want all to know them have several local blokes sittin by the road near entrance to several temples. they are all mine victims some no hands some no legs. but they all try to smile and sez hello and greet you nicely. they sometime play music. all are friendly bunch. they not like beggers after your ass with bucket for money, no pressure mates from them as they dunn ask for anything but a hello in return.
here is 1st time i dunn feel raped in siem [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url]. like me philosohy, dunn [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] me or pressure me and you shall receive more in return.
i always put a few bucks in them baskets and i go wayz similing know they have food for him and family at least for few days. happy me and happy them. be generous to these as them victims are true victims and all khmers look down on them but they still keep friendly and hopeful with contrubute music.
part2-zee sex.
wash me body and ass and go for dindin. sr good for 1 thing, many decent place to stuff face. even see pizza joints but me try some local shit tonite. ask waitress to order some for me let her choose. out comes this dry deadfish (no, not me place of stay) but real deadfish, skinny one 2.
come outs with rice and veggie and some shit in soup i dunn know what it is.
everythin ok except the skinny dead fish. 2 much salt and 2 fishy stale taste to it--dunn like but waitress sez its local delight--no wonders they all so skinny.
ok order 2 cans of angkor at same time to wash me mouth.
finish and walk out. not 2 full but ok to keep me alive tills tomorrow.
nun far so walk to martini across bridge. not happenen yet as early. only me and nother 2 mates to whole place. walk out and decide to check out place phantomtiger sez on pub st wheres me can see some custom dance.
i watch show. itz nice but 2 slow for me, everyone movin in slow mo. more balance act on one foot than dancing.
finish and go to bar on pub st--dunn remember name but too many bars on these st. order another beer and pass time chattin with another mate from asia. i thinks he from jap. english [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] porr but he happy chap. they all seem happy when away from the women folk. hmm-same for me so dunn blame them. we chat to time up and i invite him to join me in martini. he never heard but sez ok. not far walk-5min and we there.
now martini place music thumping and disco lits going. more suckers arrive every 15min. jap mate order and treat me to beer. we toast to freedom away from women folk bondage at home. we both have nite vision on to hunt for pussy in the dark. vision dunn work as 2 dark here, hard to make out bloke from preys. me jap mate sees his prey and point her. i's go over and try talk but she no understand me or mye jap mate. i's decide to use universe sign of circle push in by finger. she smiles and understand. bitchin knows english numbers and sez prices to me. after tryin to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] me with prices, we final agree on st $10. i sez not for me and i's point to me new friend. she then sez to me new set of prices much higher--f**king ***** already knows jap will pay 3x more. i's feelin for me friend and defend him. i sez he also get same same as meself. she sez no, $30st for him. i sez away with you *****, no dishonor me by cheatin me friend. she sez ok $10. i tell him zee good news (sorry mate, can't pronounce zee name but yous sound almost like "numo"). he surprise price so cheap? nows a problem. he sez stay hotel with wifey and dunn think can bring new honey home to f**k. gotz to admire this jap got big balls to pull this shit off and not get samurai sword in back later.
i dunn know if sr haz st hotels so since me hotel not far, i offer him to do it in me room. go back , tell front weenie for me keys and them 2 off to me room , no valuables in me room so dunn have to worry unless they try to take zee tv an fridge threw window. i go for walk outside and think nice nite, not hot/humid. i go to few stores and pick up some fruits for later. 40min later i return to hotel, clerk sez girl gone. i reach room and numo all smiley. i sez pay girl 10?--numo sez yes. i sez she good?--numo sez better than wife--ha ha, bastard learnin fast. i sez you give tip?--numo sez gave $10 tip???--i open eye and sez too much tip but he all smiley so wtf right.
we go out and he wantz to buy me another drink, no beer sez he but real drinks. go back to pub st and he sees other friends at another bar. invite me in and intro me. another jap mate wuz the angkor guide for their group. good , the mate speak english and jap. he translate all happenin to his friends. they all pat me on shoulder an bow to me. i guess me king for now. they order bottle cognac (not the f*king cheap shit either) and bring enough glass for us all. we enjoy each other company. and finally they depart as wifeys would kick some ass if not home soon. numo thanks me for 1000 times for so generous. i sez to him no problem as he's now me friend. he sez too bad they all leave tomorrow or whole group go out again for fun. too bad 2, as i will miss his company. he give me his card if ever i is in japan will show me good time. again, another new friend in so short time.
bloody shit, almost 12mn and dunn have dick in some lady mouth. flag down moto and off to zone1. place hopping. good bar and restaurant outside. walk in and see 3 honeyz sitting by door. all cute, even after all nite drinkin, maybe thatz why they cute.
ask if they ready for me. they say take out is $40 lt. i sez too much but dunn seem to go lower here. forgets to ask st so dunn know if can do or not.
many moto outside, all offer lady. i say hell yeh, off we go. stop after 5 or maybe 10min--dunn know sure as head buzz. walk in house. not big place, have 5-7 lady standing. even buzz i tell youz some dam ugly here. only 1 catch me eyes. i wave to her. papa sez $15 1hr. no way, buzz but not stupid, i counter $5, no no sez papa. oh forgot these moto asses get a cut. i sez $7, but still no, i start walk and papa said ok $10 ok?--i sez ok.
name: fon from hcmc, viet.
age: whatzever she sez--think sez 21
body: 5 feet, rack size=b at most but cute nipples, no real fat but little side handle. allow to lick them racks and nipples--sweet.
run me hands all over smooth ass.
face: 6
bj: yeh at last, ok but not me best, last 5 min only
fs: allow multi position but dunn allow touch ass and no kissin, and dunn allow me finger roam her pussy
tip: ok standard so give $2
return visit: shit no, me think she 6 now but after drinks wean off, maybe see daylight and give 4 instead. all others were 1-2 at most, even generous drunk.
go back to hotel with same buzz in head, try to shower but not good standing in water with slip soap an floor, so wash me dickie only in sink and off to bed.
last thought of nite. maybees havin moto dope promise wake me ass up 7am tomorrow not so good idea now.
pirate1 out for now.
[QUOTE=Pirate1]
Also most of all them mines from them Aholes of not me friends of Pol Pot and them VietG when they war--so local affairs mainly. Also, we of west now only ones helping to find them minies so they can better them asses.
Pirate1[/QUOTE]
Yup, although the US and western world not exactly blameless here as they contributed to some of the landmine issue in Cambo. they were not the main culprits.
I visited the landmine museum when I was in SR and was informed the vast majority of landmines were the types made by the former Commie Eastern Block countries and China. I also read all this somewhere from some articles.
And you are correct that although the West didn't put most of the mines there it is they who are at least trying to help.
PT
[quote=pirate1]
just want all to know them have several local blokes sittin by the road near entrance to several temples. they are all mine victims some no hands some no legs. but they all try to smile and sez hello and greet you nicely. they sometime play music. all are friendly bunch. they not like beggers after your ass with bucket for money, no pressure mates from them as they dunn ask for anything but a hello in return.
here is 1st time i dunn feel raped in siem [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url]. like me philosohy, dunn [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] me or pressure me and you shall receive more in return.
i always put a few bucks in them baskets and i go wayz similing know they have food for him and family at least for few days. happy me and happy them. be generous to these as them victims are true victims and all khmers look down on them but they still keep friendly and hopeful with contrubute music.
too bad 2, as i will miss his company. he give me his card if ever i is in japan will show me good time. again, another new friend in so short time.
pirate1 out for now.[/quote]
i had a good time reading this as your writing style continues to add to the fun. it's wacky but yet easy to interpret.
i agree with helping out those poor souls with obvious talent but unfortunate victims of mines. i always said hello to them with a smile and left a few dollars also when i can, glad you did the same.
how many friends have you made on this trip already? seems you are a popular guy everywhere you go. got to admire your openness and generosity.
later and keep it up.
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btw: notice you made senior member already---well deserved.
pt
[QUOTE=Phantomtiger2]I had a good time reading this as your writing style continues to add to the fun. It's wacky but yet easy to interpret.
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BTW: notice you made Senior Member already---well deserved.
PT[/QUOTE]
Shittin me mate.
I a senior member?? how these miracle happen in me lifetime??
I thank you as me know you have much to do with this with all zee recommendation yous made on me behalf.
Musta not forget to thank thou for zee ROD recommend.
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Seriously, you are indeed correct as I write my reports in as you called it "a wacky style" just because I feel it's more my own style and my personal amusement. Trust me when I tell you all that it actual takes me much longer to write a report that way as I have to stop and think of spelling these words that could be understood by all. But on the other hand, sometimes I do talk that way when I'm around close friends so why not write that way and have some fun while I'm doing so. Again, I can probably write in English with the best of you ,but then I'll be no different than the rest of you on this great forum.----In my own opinions.
Pirate1
Hi guys,
I heard it was illegal for foreigners to rent scooters in Siem Reap.
Is it ok to ride one that's rented in Phnom Penh?
[QUOTE=Traffic777]Hi guys,
I heard it was illegal for foreigners to rent scooters in Siem Reap.
Is it ok to ride one that's rented in Phnom Penh?[/QUOTE]
Ah Hmm, good riddle mate.
No error in zee fact no can rent in SR for not resident live there. But since yous dunn have an ID showin you belongz there in SR then assume yous could be given a biggie fine anywayz like alls of us.
But to SR ride zee very long so why bother? easy to hire moto dope when getz there or rent zee slow ass electric moto if yous like private.
Pirate1
[QUOTE=Fiddler]Someone knows how is GoldenTempleVilla (that is also near some massage places I understand) and if it's GF?[/QUOTE]I just noticed this question. My post may be too late for you, but I put it in anyway.
I was at the Golden temple Villa a year ago. Do not know if it is girl friendly or not because I was there with my wife. However, I seem to remember seeing some local looking gals around. The place is nice, friendly and very clean. The rooms are rather small but functional and comfortable. The beds are excellent. The restaurant is also pretty good. What I also liked about the place was that it is well located, close to the center (where I saw several massage parlors) and yet very quiet. Several of the other places I considered are located on noisy streets.
I hope this helps someone.
Hi !
I lived at the Golden Orange Hotel last week , it is very good for 20 USD/night
The owner was sitting in the bar with the guests drinking beer with them !
he is from the US.
I can recommend the bar Blue wave, the girls there are really nice, they have rooms in the back area of the bar, 20USD for girl and room for one hour.
they open around 6pm.
BL
After having a couple of usual massages, I was looking for something special that would stick in my mind like the Angkor Wat.
I was taken to a place called the Birdy Massage situated in a lane off Sivatha Road. What struck me immediately was the freshness of the 3 very young girls who were there. Opted for an oil massage for US$ 10 and we went upstairs with one of the beauties. Her name way Ary, and said she was 18.
I declined to wear the short that was offered, and lay naked whilst she game me an excellent massage. She seemed oblivious to the fact that my rod was at 90 degrees and begging for attention.
During the last quarter of the one hour massage I drew her attention to my member and wanted her to touch it. She flatly refused and also pretended not to hear my offer of US$ 50. Duly finished the massage and left, leaving me in a pitiful state.
Have any of you mongers been lucky in getting some extras from the girls at this place.
Went to blue wave, quite early, about 9pm. Only me alone in the pub. Looks a little bit scary, so I went off.
Went to Martini, much bigger club. Better settings & environment.
Chatted with one lady. Local Khmer girl. Quite pretty. About 160cm.
Ask her back to hotel for ST. She consulted her MUMMY & ask for 40 USD.
I said no, because is too expensive.
She asked for 35 USD.
I said no again. She just sit quiet beside me.
Then I asked her "sincerely" again for 30 USD.
She consulted her MUMMY & finally agreed with this.
Brought her back to the hotel. I took a shower, then her turn.
Came out with tower wrapping her body.
Have to spend some time to remove the tower.
And I was shocked with what I saw, this lady has the most tidy nipple which I ever seen. I was so happy. I know she is still as blank as a white paper.
Kiss her, but she did not kiss back. Ask her why, she said she did not know.
Is ok, as long as I know :)
Kissing her neck, ear, breast, nipple & so on.
When I touched her pussy, I was shocked again.
Is so watery......you got to trust me, this girl is all wet before I play her pussy. Wanna try DATY but she refused. She said this is not good to me...huh ??? Didn't ask her to blow me as I think she will take time to learn.
Put on a condom & start working. She response well & keeping saying that I am good, huh ??? This make me feel great.
Continue working till she come.
Conclusion: 9 / 10
And she told me she is coming to my country by end of this year.
Looking forward to make love with her again. Will update ! :)
Welp from all the looks and stares because they've never seen a black dude, I'd say my chances of getting laid are good!. I'm staying at the Angkor Grand Guesthouse & Resturant. Is there any place near by where I can get a piece of poon.
Any info wouild be cool
[b] MeatMan[/b]
First night in SR and I wasn't too sure of where to go to find girls but every motobike rider is more than eager to take you to one, as they get a commission. You really don't have much choice as most are inaccessible by foot at night because many streets are pitch black due to insufficient street lighting. The motobike guy took me to Ly Ly Massage, which was previously called Hollywood Massage.
Once the motobike guy indentified himself to the owners he and I walked into a two storey house. As soon as you walk in on the right are the girls sitting a 'fishbowl', there were about 20 girls. The girls were almost 10 metres away and the fishbowl was lit up by pink lighting, so it was a little difficult to clearly see the girls. There were about 8 other guys there with their drivers but they were all just waiting and starring into the fishbowl. This is the first time I have chosen a girl like this and found the situation a bit awkward as the girls can clearly see you and they sat me closest to the fishbowl.
When I first sat down number 39 had caught my eye but I did not select her straight away. Being my first time in this type of establishment I decided to sit for a while and take my time. I looked at each of the girls in turn but still decided number 39 was still the one. She was not stunning, and was dressed conservatively (in a blouse and 3/4 length jeans, most other girls were in dresses) but I knew I would get on well with her. I told my driver to select number 39 for me, which he got up and went to the counter and did so. Number 39 was told to come out of the fishbowl and she looked happy to be selected.
When she saw me she gave me a kiss on the cheek and held my arm, very GFE. I told the driver before I got on the bike that the price would be US$25 for ST, which he said OK after a bit of whinning. When I went to the counter to pay they wanted US$40, I told them the agreed price was US$25 and they said OK without protest. My driver said he would wait outside for me. I was led to a room with number 39 hanging tightly to my arm. The room was just large enough for the double bed with a separate small shower. However some of the walls had brown marks, did not want to contemplate where they came from, and the bed looked "used". After 5 seconds in the room I asked number 39 if she would like to come back to my hotel instead, she gladly said yes. So I asked one of the young owners to come back in and I enquired how much for LT and he said US$60. I said no way and offered US$40, we ultimately agreed on US$45 and we quickly left the establishment.
When the motobike arrived at the hotel I told the driver to come back at 9am to pick up the girl. The hotel I stayed at was called City River Hotel and their notices clearly state a US$10 fee for extra guests. They get the girl's name and contact details before letting them it. When I walked into the lobby I then realised that number 39 looked extremely young. She was under 150cms and had a small frame. She could probably pass for 14 years old. I prefer girls around 20 years old and I chose number 39 because I thought she looked decent and mature. To make matters worse, it was 10pm and a small group of japanese tourist was in the process of checking in. On most tourist maps there is a warning and picture of the guy holding a little girl by the hand leading her to a hotel room clearly stating that it is a serious offence to have sex with a minor, I kept thinking of this whilst standing at the reception area. I quickly gave US$10 cash to the reception but they took forever to get the girl's details.
She could speak a little english and as we had the whole night I thought we should spend a little time talking first. Her name was Tu and she was clearly a fairly intelligent girl and told me she did this to bring in money for her family. After about 20 minutes she asked me go into the shower and she would wash me. I suggested we take a bath together instead, it was fun and allowed us to talk a bit more. After the wash, we sat on the bed hugging and kissing. She told me to lie down and started to give me a great BBBJ which lasted about 10 minutes. I asked if she like DATY but she said no, instead I rubbed her clit until she came. She slipped the condom on me and after various positions I came after 20 minutes. We each took a shower and then sat on the bed her head resting on my shoulders. At about 1am we both climbed under the sheets to sleep. I find it hard to get a good sleep with somebody sleeping next to me and I woke up a few times during the night. Each time she was quitely asleep and I just looked at her and I thought how lucky I was to have chosen her and how unfortunate it was for such a young beautiful and bright girl to have to do this everyday to help her parents with money. In the morning she knew the pickup time was 9am so she woke up at about 7am to take a shower. She then proceeded to give me a fantastic BBBJ which lasted about 20 minutes. She wanted me to CIM but the little guy just did not want to. So we popped on the condom and I finished 10 minutes later. I walked her downstairs and the motorbike guy from last night was waiting. She kissed me and got on the bike.
Name: Tu
Origin: Cambodian
GFE: 10/10
Age: 21 years
Looks: 7.5/10
Body: 7/10, very small frame
Breasts: B, firm and quite large for small stature
Vagina : nice and tight
BBBJ: 9/10
DATY: No
Anal: Did not try
WIR: Definitely
Damage: US$45 for LT
Tips: US$5 to girl (none for papasan or driver)
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On the last night in Siem Reap a guy (named Nara Kim) working at the hotel I was staying at, City River Hotel, asked me if I was interested in finding a girl for the night. I said yes and asked him why he did not ask me this earlier during my stay as he clearly saw me bring a girl back nearly every night. He said that it was very rare for him to offer his service to any guest because he wanted to be sure I would say yes before asking. His english was excellent and as I later found out he was very persuasive in his native language as well. He said he would take me around to a few local spots until I found someone I liked. I told him where I had already visited and we agreed that he would help me find a girl who was young and did not work in the sex industry.
We went to a few nightclubs but I did not find anyone appealing. We then found a bunch of girls who were talking just to the side of the nightclub. They said they worked in the karaoke behind the nightclub. Of the 4 girls one looked pretty good and fresh. I told Nara and he spoke to her for 10 mins about what I was after and convinced the girl to come have a drink and small meal with me. When we were sitting in the tuk tuk it was clear that she was very nervous. He said that for Cambodian girls, having a meal with a guy was usually the first step with being with a guy. The meal was at a local restaurant and was really cheap. After the meal the girl was still undecided if she still wanted to go ahead with it but after a few reassuring words from Nara she said yes. She agreed because she needed the money. I was told that it was only the 2nd time she has been with a guy.
At my hotel room she was so nervous she was shaking. It was unlike being with the other girls who worked in the industry as she did not initiate any sexual advances. I had to start very slowly and finally convinced her to kiss then finally removed her clothes. It was like being with a virgin and she was quite tight when I penetrated her. When we had finished I wasn't sure how much I was to pay her. So after cleaning up we went downstairs and I asked him how much. He said that the exact amount had not been agreed and it was up to me. I gave her US$50 and she seemed to be OK with that. I also gave my guy $10 for his help in landing a local girl, transport and advice.
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About a year ago I was at this place, then it was called Hollywood.
After crossing the bridge is the last place on the right side. Before reaching
Hollywood there is another house with big parking lot, I saw around one hundred cute girls. I took a girl from this house and from Hollywood. I paid
$ 20 each time for all night. Sure, they will ask for $ 60 or $ 40, just walk
away, the price will come down fast!
[QUOTE=Samu Ray]About a year ago I was at this place, then it was called Hollywood.
After crossing the bridge is the last place on the right side. Before reaching
Hollywood there is another house with big parking lot, I saw around one hundred cute girls. I took a girl from this house and from Hollywood. I paid
$ 20 each time for all night. Sure, they will ask for $ 60 or $ 40, just walk
away, the price will come down fast![/QUOTE]
Is is safe to walk here by yourself at night or should you take transportation? Will your driver expect a commission?
[QUOTE=Mecha Pilot] I gave her US$50 and she seemed to be OK with that. I also gave my guy $10 for his help in landing a local girl, transport and advice. [/QUOTE]
Duh, no kidding that she was OK getting $50 for her share after you bought her dinner. I never heard of anyone who paid $60 plus dinner for ST sex in Cambodia. Even for an inexperienced non-pro. You're paying at least 3X the going rate, maybe 5-6X.
I walked at night to the Hollywood and the other houses,there were about
six houses close to each other. But, when it rains the road is a mess.
new snooky scam - to rent a moto, you need to have a cambo driver license - how does one get it? Easy - just hand over $30. You could get a DOG a license for $30 (no ID, no questions, just $30) - BTW - it's good for renting in SiemRiep as well
[QUOTE=Xdentx]Is is safe to walk here by yourself at night or should you take transportation? Will your driver expect a commission?[/QUOTE]
Depends on how far you plan to walk but in general, most of the interesting places are within walking distance (max=30min walk). But motos are so cheap it is not often that people walk alot.
Yes, all drivers get commission for bringing you to places for mongering and yes, walking around SR is safe (day or night). it is perhaps the safest place in Cambo.
PT
Planning my first trip to Cambodia and want to stay in a mid price hotel. Anyone know anything of the Steung Siem Reap Hotel? Tripadvisor says "No hotel can beat its location. We went around town several times and there is no hotel more central than Steung (pronounced Steng). Just a block away from Bar St. No need for tuktuks to go to town for dinner or shopping at the old market.. We were right in the middle of all activities. It is a good 3 or 4 star hotel. We paid $70 a night (booked on line) and it included free breakfast. It served Cambodian and western food. They picked us up from the airport free of charge and served us cold fruit drinks upon our arrival. The room was very, very clean and modern. There was hot water all throughout the day."
Also wondering about the Bopha Angkor Hotel which has good reviews. On future visits I'd probably be more open to the $20/night places, but tend to be cautious when exploring new territory. Comments? Most of the past posts focus on the value places which are not as centrally located. Thanks.
I stayed at the mehkong angkor palace,near the bar st and with a great pool.I think it was about $30 a night.
Completed trip to SR a few months ago. Previous posting suggested the Golden Orange Hotel. Could not have been a better choice. Owner Doug is American. Room was around $20 per night with breakfast included. The entire staff could not have been any hospitiable. Take advantage of free pickup by tuktuk supplied by hotel. We ended up using the same driver the entire time we were there. If you are tired of all the fast pace of Thailand be sure to try SR. Previous posts will fill you in as to where to go. Doug the owner will be more than happy to make suggestions. They have a small bar downstairs which is well worth visiting after going around town for day and before heading out for night. The tuktuk driver, I believe it was Sam, will be more than happy to be available around your schedule. Be sure to treat him nice he is married with several children. He was always available no matter how early or late we wanted him. We usually paid him $12 for being around all day in case we wanted to go somewhere and $5 to take us around at night. He knows all the spots and speaks fair English. Enjoyed it so much plan on going back again later this year for an extended visit. Say hello to Doug the owner from Bob and Doug. If you stay there you will not regret your choice. My thanks to the older posting suggesting the place.
[QUOTE=RetiredForever]........He was always available no matter how early or late we wanted him. We usually paid him $12 for being around all day in case we wanted to go somewhere and $5 to take us around at night. He knows all the spots and speaks fair English...........[/QUOTE]Hi there friend,
It is a little while since I have been up to Siem Reap but I think I know why your TukTuk was always around. $17 a day sounds like a lot og guaranteed income for him and he probably didn't want anyone else to cash in.
As I say, it has been a while since I was in Siem Reap, but circa $500 a month sounds like way above the average wage.
Anyone else any thoughts on standard rate for having TukTuk on call, whether you use them or not? I think I would take my chances on finding TukTuk when I wanted one and so not pay a retainer. Am I a cheap charlie?
Hawk
[QUOTE=NanaHawk]Hi there friend,
It is a little while since I have been up to Siem Reap but I think I know why your TukTuk was always around. $17 a day sounds like a lot og guaranteed income for him and he probably didn't want anyone else to cash in.
As I say, it has been a while since I was in Siem Reap, but circa $500 a month sounds like way above the average wage.
Anyone else any thoughts on standard rate for having TukTuk on call, whether you use them or not? I think I would take my chances on finding TukTuk when I wanted one and so not pay a retainer. Am I a cheap charlie?
Hawk[/QUOTE]
Yes, you are... if you can afford going as far as SR, you may contribute to better the life of the locals by not arguing about a few dollars, while those get you a better service.. IMHO....
Hi there. I have also posted on the PP board recently. Basically, I am visiting Cambodia for the 1st time in Sept. I have already booked a room at Mandalay Inn so thanks for the advice on that.
However, I had a few queries regarding the scene in SR. Firstly, with it being the rainy season, how does this affect the girl situation here? Also, I had heard that $10 girls were the norm here, but it seems this may not be the case? Is SR more expensive than PP in this respect? I will be looking for slightly more mature women to take back to the hotel ideally. Any tips on that would be useful.
Cheers,
Donnylad
Rainy season=not so many tourists=good times for less money.SR appears to be more expensive than PP due to the numbers of tourists.Phantom tiger is the full bottle on SR,check his reports in the archives.
All I know is that I was there last june and I had a great time at the bar street and later on at martini dancing and the khmer disco whose name I can't remember-zone 1 thats it.
I found a lovely cham girl at martinis who was overjoyed with $20 all night and i got so pissed at zone 1 that the moto and the hotel guy had to put me to bed,I couldn't remember a thing the next day.
Thats what i call a good night.
[QUOTE=Prince Harry]
I found a lovely cham girl at martinis who was overjoyed with $20 all night and i got so pissed at zone 1 that the moto and the hotel guy had to put me to bed,I couldn't remember a thing the next day.
Thats what i call a good night.[/QUOTE]
Ha ha, Good one Harry, anytime a guy puts you to bed and nothing happened then it's a good nite. Anytime a gal puts you to bed and everything happens then it's a great nite.
PT
[QUOTE=Donnylad]Hi there. I have also posted on the PP board recently. Basically, I am visiting Cambodia for the 1st time in Sept. I have already booked a room at Mandalay Inn so thanks for the advice on that.
However, I had a few queries regarding the scene in SR. Firstly, with it being the rainy season, how does this affect the girl situation here? Also, I had heard that $10 girls were the norm here, but it seems this may not be the case? Is SR more expensive than PP in this respect? I will be looking for slightly more mature women to take back to the hotel ideally. Any tips on that would be useful.
Cheers,
Donnylad[/QUOTE]
Donnylad,
Prince Harry is correct. In general, prices are higher all across the board in SR because of 1)supply / demand ( much less supply of gals in SR in the business) and 2) more higher class tourist on more expensive tour packages visit SR willing to fork over larger sums of cash.
In SR, $10 is not the norm unless you find a back alley brothel in a wooden shack full of mosquitos, then it's about 7-$10 for the foreigner.
Most gals in SR are generally in the younger class and not the more older mature type in SR. You can still find the mature ones at Martini club (across the river from Pub st) need not worry as most of the younger ones are usually picked up 1st so the mature ones are left for later, or go to the 2-3 MPs just west of pub st on a small street (about 100 yards/meters) before you reach the Temple Villa hotel. Your location at Mandalay is very close to these MPs. I believe more detail directions are all in my past post on these MPs.
Also, there are about 2 more places full of ladies on the same road just past Martinis but they will try to milk you with starting prices of $60-70/nite for the gal, so much cheaper and easier for pick up at Martini. Enjoy and report back with your experiences.
PT
When I was in SR I noticed there were not a lot of older people. Made a comment to Doug at Orange. He told me (if I remember it correctly) that 52% of the population of SR is female between ages of 18-21. For some reason after the war there was an unusual larger number of women born. Most can not stand Cambodian man-they are either gay or treat them like second class citizens. They like the treatment they receive from Europeans. I am 57 and so so looking. I personally found even the women I meet around town to be very nice. Let's try not to ruin the scene by taking advantage of the situation with bad Karma. THe last thing we need is need is another country where every bar you walk by has girls yelling out at you "grandpa" wanting them to buy you drinks. I personally plan on going back to Cambodian in November for a 2-3 month visit (will also be visiting Viet Nam).
If anyone has any good info on life in Snooky I would love to hear from you
Thanks for the info guys. Will definitely report back. Martinis sounds like just the ticket!!
Donnylad
Donny,
I stayed at Mandalay Inn last November and it is a great place to stay. The staff was very helpful and I brought in a few young ladies in and it isn't an issue. As a matter of fact, the wife of the owner who is around most of the day gave me directions to the local Viet brothels which were right around the corner. As stated by the other guys, you are central to the town and close to everything.
There was a fishbowl place right around the corner from Mandalay where I pulled a few girls out. If my memory serves me correct, it was 30$ for the whole night and there was quite a nice selection. I reported on this last November/December and has been suggested before there are quite a few reports prior to that.
If you need more info, you can always rely on the the wife of the owner who was bouncing two babies on her lap as she gave me info on the brothels.
I arrived from Phnom Penh June 23 after 6. 5 hours on an air conditioned? Bus. We did stop twice to cool the engine by throwing 5 gallon buckets of water on the radiator then refilling it. The road was fairly smooth and got less crowded the closer we came to Siem Reap. I had prepared for my trip to Cambodia by reading all of the forums along with many blogs about Laos and China as my main purpose in coming to SE Asia was to teach in Guiyang, China for a month. It just made sense to me to come to a place where I could afford to have the fun I had in college a "few" years ago.
I suppose I could have planned ahead, but that is not my style. I asked the tuk tuk driver to take me to the Golden Orange Hotel that RetiredForever reccomended. By the way, Doug remembers you guys. We even tipped a beer in your honor. The Golden Orange is a very nice hotel as explained earlier. You really feel welcome and are well taken care of.
I showed Doug the list of places I was going to check out and he commented not to waste my time on Martini's but to go to the Blue Wave for a drink then on to Zone 1. I took his advice. The Blue Wave is not particularly large. There were about 8-9 girls there at 11:00 when I arrived. I of course was greeted by several at the door but kept walking around the bar to check things out then settled at the bar for a beveridge. The first girl that met me at the door sits next to me and rubs me all over asking if I want to make love to her. I asked how much, $20 she replied. I walk away and have a chat with a couple of young? Men and their girls, one from Tahiti and the other from Netherlands. My girl just followed me over and kept rubbing me without being too obnoxious. I rather enjoyed it. The beer was $2 and was served with a little plate of peanuts. We must have chatted a half an hour then I left to Zone 1. BTW I returned last night and enjoyed the services of "my girl" for $15. She didn't begrude me and really took care of me taking extra time with the BBBJ so I could get hard enough to finish. I am going to have to invest in some of those blue pills.
Zone One- Wow! Huge! A nice restaurant outside and a large, loud dance floor surrounded by a balcony upstairs where you can look down on the action. No cover charge! I did a walk around dancing as I walk and check out all the corners. I settle in in the southwest section near the bar and find a cutie who is anxious to dance with a large american middle aged man. And dance we did! I love to dance and at home it embarrases some. Here it seeml like I am John Travolta! I have to rest every few dances to catch my breath, wipe my brow and have a drink. A large bottle of Anckor beer $3. 30. My dancing partner shares one with me. We dance for an hour or so then on to business. I ask her to come back to my hotel with me. No problem. We did not discuss money, but as we were walking out the door her momasaan came over and asked for $30. She explained that is all I have to pay, no bar fine. I did not dicker. I mean negotiate as I was ready! Back to the Golden Orange for one of the nicest times in quite a long time. We showered, brushed our teeth, then on to the body kissing for 15-20 minutes. BBBJ, DATY, Anal-rimming then on to the main event! Wow!
After visiting Phnom Penh for several days (see report in the Phnom Penh section), I went to Siem Reap for 2 days and 1 night to see Angkor Wat. Comments below:
* Golden Orange: A nice hotel on the northern side of the city. It's a moto ride to any bar or anything you'd want to see/do in Siem Reap, but that isn't a major problem since there are almost always drivers hanging out nearby. I arrived at 11 am and had no problem checking in early.
* Zone One: A large dance club with Karoke as well. I only stayed in the dance club area so I can't comment on the rest. The large dance area is surrounded by tables and booths, similar to other clubs througout Asia. Although 80-90% of the people there are locals just out to have fun, I was approached several times throughout the evening by working girls. I like having a chance to talk to the girl and get a good look at her before taking her home, and the lighting and loud music made it impossible to do so, so I left without anyone.
* Martini's: I think the is the other dance club in Siem Reap, but my memory is failing me. Lots of techno music and much smaller than Zone One. It's older and on the decline. Not a single working girl that I could detect in my 30 minutes there.
* Blue Wave Bar: Short-time bar with 5-8 working girls ranging from 4-7. I went here early in the evening and decided on going to check out other places before coming back. By the time I did, the 7 was busy and I decided not to wait around. I think the quoted price is $20 short-time in their room.
* Brothels: After not finding anyone, a local motocycle driver took me to 4-5 different local brothels. I can't remember where some of them were, but there were 3 on the Zone One road between Zone One and the road leading to the airport. Most of the girls there obviously didn't want to go with me so I avoided them. The rate I was quoted for most of them, $30 for short-time to my hotel (too high) or $20 short-time in their rooms (they looked pretty dirty and I was worried about safety), so I went back to the hotel without one. There was one 9 who I wanted to take, but when I saw her she was in a towel and on her way to a room followed by a local guy. One of the owners told me that the price for a local guy was $10.
* Sightseeing: You can accomplish a significant amount with a hired tuk-tuk driver. I paid $12 the first day, and $20 the second (I went to Bantray Srei and the airport which was why it cost more) and saw 10-15 temples in 2 days of sightseeing. I wish I paid the extra $$ for an official guide since I probably would have gotten much more out of the experience. If you're coming to Siem Reap, the temples should be the reason, not the p4p which is better in Phnom Penh.
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Great report #1344. This is the kind of factual reporting that is of real value to those of us planning a first trip.
1344 - they lied - the local price is 5000R
Fellow Mongers -
I am headed to SR in Late Aug and I am considering the above-mentioned hotel - does anyone have any commentary to share from previous experiences? I am looking at location to Pub Street and close proximity to the markets and of course, GF friendly...
Any local help would be greatly appreciated.
n_r
I'm also trying to figure out where to stay. My research turned up the above hotel, but I don't know if it would be "comfortable" to bring a lady home. The Steung has a very centralized location which I really prefer.
I sent my research notes on both the Steung and Bopha Angkor to nite runner, but I too would really like to hear more from the experienced travelers. Come on guys...someone out there must know about places other than the Golden Orange and the Mandalay.
Also for the traveler who is interested in the cultural things, tourist sites, temples, and lakes...what is the ideal number of days to visit SR? Thanks!
Try Angorland hotel, I was there a few months ago, very good hotel, huge clean rooms, good breakfast, girlfriendly and is only $50/night.
If you really want to see Angkor wat get 3 days pass for $40
[QUOTE=Noman2]Try Angorland hotel, I was there a few months ago, very good hotel, huge clean rooms, good breakfast, girlfriendly and is only $50/night.
If you really want to see Angkor wat get 3 days pass for $40[/QUOTE]Great suggestion - I have already sent off a request for a reservation...
N_R
Looking forward to your feedback on the hotel scene (and anything else you want to comment on.) This SR forum is a little short on frequent reports. Hope you have a great time there.
My experience at Siem Reap
Went to Siem Reap from Phnom Penh by bus, easy transfer, not too heavy. Before going there I've studied a lot, about temples of course and about fun, forum of Siem reap has been very useful to me, thank you all have spent sometime to write down informations. Is good for everybody to share experiences, from my point of view it would be better if experiences will not become just description of one detailed session, wich it always look like to me just exibitionism. So here is my report for Siem Reap, written mainly to thanks whom have posted before me about. It refers to february 2007. Took contact with Golden Temple Villa hotel by email, quite easy they have a site wich can be found easily, just google the name. Very nice hotel, the guy's team is really funny and if they see you alone they always wonder why, and smile if you get back with a girl, then it is definitly GF and do not cover anything for. Yes there are also tourists in it, but they are almost invisibles all time long. They also have an internet point free for hosts. On the small street of Hotel there are 3 barber shop but they look like garages. In daylight you won't find them but from sunset on, they will be quite obvious with their pink inlights. And if the girls inside, wich look like very lazy just watching the tv, see you, one for sure will jump up like a frog and will try to take you in the garage. But I didn't go. The reason is coming up. First evening in Siem Reap went to Martini wich is absolutley easy to find out. Once at the bridge it is so evident, It looks like a big xmas tree with all its flashing lights. Did not found anything else further, even if in this forum there were some indication of. Went around 9pm, too early, none there, girls outside cickening. Mamasan tough but good, she didn't let me choose, she took one in the bunch and pull her near me. First time in my poor monger's career I didn't choose and it was a very good thing. The girl was shy at first. Not a stunner, ordinary girl, nice 30y. Didn't see any better stuff anyway. Had a bier and then back to hotel by walking, it is very close. Mamasan dealed the all story, 35$. Yak! Bad bad bad! The shy girl who at first behaved like an icecube, slowly start to touching me gently and kissing me, she was very affective and at last when mamasan shot her price, I agreed, not forgetting a funeral face, at least. But it worth. Yes it worth. The shy girl was very nice and gentle, let me do whatever I liked and... she slept with me behaving like she really loved me. Morning, breakfast, she left, in the afternoon she came back to hotel and asked me to stay togheter once again. Shortly, had a real girlfriend for the 4 days in Siem Reap, and she didn't ask me nothing more. We did morning and evening with a total of 8 times for 35$, This is what I really call a deal. Cambodian girls are still gentle, really want to please, she loved me for those 4 days it was an experience for my heart wich has become like a frozen stone living in Italy where women behave... you know, they are all the same all over western states. (Someone call usa "sex prison", I know it is true, but never forget all western states are linked in culture, where one goes, sooner or later the others follow, europe is follwing very close). For this reason I couldn't have the time to join the garages services. Other place of Siem Reap is Zone One. It is bigger then Martini and much more activity. But I had luck at Martini, this can always happens, going to the best place for mongering is never an assurance to get what you are looking for, viceversa sometimes happens to find a pearl in the garbage. Mongering in Siem reap is easy but do not expect a wide choice. North part of town is full of 4 star hotels for tourists and tour operator, south part of the town, around the market is free of tourism. Backpackers are few. At night the two small street behind the market are a lovely place to hang out, music not too loud, good food, good prices. An all you can eat at Golden temple restaurant, wich is not the same of the hotel, 4$, all you can eat. Siem reap is easy, everything is small. All at all had 4 beatiful days in Siem reap, visiting temples with my local girlfriend on a tuk-tuk rented for 10$ a day and from the third day on, the shy girl became a real kitten. Also very useful having a girl for local contacts, it is more then a simple guide, she thinks about you only, really. Cambodian women still THINK for their men, not for themselves. She didn't wait me to be thirsty, she always had a coconut ready for me at the right time. I didn't have to ask nothing, the only thought she had is to please me, and serve me. Yes, sure I was the one with money, the one who payed, these are the two roles in cambodia, at least they are clear and women behave really that way. I finally tipped her before leaving with 40$ for the 4 days.
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Hi,
I will stay during my stay in the Victoria Angkor Hotel in Siem Reap.
Does anyone have any commentary to share from previous experiences?
GF friendly.
Many thanks in advance
Retep1
Hi,
I will stay at the above-mentionned hotel next november - does anyone have any commentary to share from previous experiences? GF friendly.
Many thanks in advance,
Retep1
[QUOTE=Xdentx]I'm also trying to figure out where to stay. My research turned up the above hotel, but I don't know if it would be "comfortable" to bring a lady home. The Steung has a very centralized location which I really prefer.
I sent my research notes on both the Steung and Bopha Angkor to nite runner, but I too would really like to hear more from the experienced travelers. Come on guys...someone out there must know about places other than the Golden Orange and the Mandalay.
Also for the traveler who is interested in the cultural things, tourist sites, temples, and lakes...what is the ideal number of days to visit SR? Thanks![/QUOTE]
I stayed at the Golden Orange, it was a very good deal for the $$$. Clean, great staff, good food, good location, good, good and more good.
Shamas O'Dognasty
[QUOTE=Retep1]Hi,
I will stay at the above-mentionned hotel next november - does anyone have any commentary to share from previous experiences? GF friendly.
Many thanks in advance,
Retep1[/QUOTE]
I honestly don't know, but I'm willing to bet that they did not change their policy regarding lady guests between the first time you asked this question, and the second time, 3 hours and 40 minutes later
[QUOTE=Xdentx]I'm also trying to figure out where to stay. My research turned up the above hotel, but I don't know if it would be "comfortable" to bring a lady home. The Steung has a very centralized location which I really prefer.
I sent my research notes on both the Steung and Bopha Angkor to nite runner, but I too would really like to hear more from the experienced travelers. Come on guys...someone out there must know about places other than the Golden Orange and the Mandalay.
Also for the traveler who is interested in the cultural things, tourist sites, temples, and lakes...what is the ideal number of days to visit SR? Thanks![/QUOTE]Siem Reap is very small. It doesn't matter where you are, you will be close to anything anycase. North part of the city: big hotels for tourist circuit, you will meet for sure some an angry western lady blaming you with eyes and even words, when will see you dealing with your last local chicken. South, less turists. Center is jsut the two small streets and market. But form north to south you can walk in 10 minutes, or take a moto-dop for 1 minute even less, it is so short way usually the guy of moto-dop don't even cover you nothing.
Ideal period for visiting Angkor is 5 days, Unfortunetly pass ar for 1d, 4d, 7d. One day for little circuit (the most spectacular), 1 day for long circuit, 1 day to Banteay Srei (wich surely worth it), one day to the "Group of Roulos", and finally one day to hanging arounf freeely in between The great Palace, the Elephant terrace, The hidden passage, Mebon, and others around. That's it.
So the 4d pass is a little short, but the 7d pass is definitly too long. The 5d pass do not exist exactly for this reason, to make you pay for 7d. I did the 7d one, and I used the 6th day to go to Kbal Speam, but it was long way north and transfer cost me more then the ticket. Now you know. Ticket at Angkor is very expensive. It is not a Cambodian managed site. It is an european one. Lake is Tonle Sap south of the city. There is a hill south, with a climbing stair. Go there at sunset time, you will see. Other lake is the Baray. It is not a lake, in fact is rectangular, have you ever heard about a rectangular lake? With stones boundary and steps all around?
Angkhor Wat pass is 1, THREE, or 7 days (not 4 unless they changed very recently) $20, 40, 60 each. Tickets available on the entry road - take cash
You can do most of the temples in 1 day (after you've seen much beyond Bayon, angkhor thom and the tree overgrown "not too much restored temple" and the 2 or 3 under reconstruction - ONE PILE OF ROCKS LOOKS ABOUT THE SAME AS ANOTHER). 3 days was enough - do the sundown on the hill over Angkhor wat, though, AND take bug spray - the mosquitoes get nasty right after dark and there is dengue fever in the area. Carry water with you (you can buy chilled water out there. Don't drink non-bottled water and make sure you open it yourself)
[QUOTE=Dinghy]Angkhor Wat pass is 1, THREE, or 7 days (not 4 unless they changed very recently) $20, 40, 60 each. Tickets available on the entry road - take cash
You can do most of the temples in 1 day (after you've seen much beyond Bayon, angkhor thom and the tree overgrown "not too much restored temple" and the 2 or 3 under reconstruction - ONE PILE OF ROCKS LOOKS ABOUT THE SAME AS ANOTHER). 3 days was enough - do the sundown on the hill over Angkhor wat, though, AND take bug spray - the mosquitoes get nasty right after dark and there is dengue fever in the area. Carry water with you (you can buy chilled water out there. Don't drink non-bottled water and make sure you open it yourself)[/QUOTE]
I agree with Dinghy's advice , though this is quite a variable issue - some guys will be exhausted by the sightseeing in one day... if you over do it, one pile of rocks starts to look about the same as another... and if you go at this time of year, it will be hot and humid... . But if you have the patience to study a little bit about what you are seeing in advance, and are curious about one of the world's great archeological sites, and you are probably only going to get one chance to see it, I would certainly agree that the three day pass is a better plan. There are incredible relief carvings and sculptures to be lingered over, and if you look into it a bit, you'll find there are interesting differences in what you are looking at. In summer it is hot, so you may want to go out for part of the day and relax for another part... and make sure you have a hat as well as that bug spray. As the temples are fairly widely spread out, it is nice to make a plan that will allow you the luxury of a few days to take Angkor in, alowing for some rest from the heat. But, as I said, this is very much a matter of personal preference. My advice is read uo a little on it in a good guide book and see whether you are interested enough to invest three days. I did and did not regret it.
Thanks for all the great info!
Do any of you guys remember what the veiwing hours are?
Thanks in advance!
hours - "daylight to darkness" (angkhor wat itself is pretty much closed after dark - not many if any lights that I remember) The hill opposite (sunset temple) is open after dark but the bugs will eat you alive - if you walk down take the elephant trail ($15 ride up on an elephant) - not so steep and easy walking - otherwise it's a rock climb - sun goes below horizon, get down before the bugs get up there
great photos at bayon - as good as any postcard. and angkhor wat as well - the wall carvings are particulalry photoworthy. it CAN be done in 1 day but it's 6am to 630 or 7 pm in the process... and the rains seem to come at night right after dark and it gets pretty DEEP on the streets - 15cm was what I remember
good books were cheaper at the wat rather than buying in bookstore - probably cheaper still in the market (where ever that is) The local guidebook is good for the non-mongering stuff. I remember at least 2 free guidebooks (magazines)
there were 3 temples under reconstruction (giant puzzle work) 2 years ago when I went there
can anyone help with the cost from saigon to seam reap? vn airlines will not quote me a price on the phone.
i hope it's not too expensive as i would like to spend the money in cambodia. the golden temple guest house seems like a nice place to stay according to the reports but what is the security like there. do they have in room security boxes so i can keep my stuff in? hotel looks good but is my first choice to the golden orange so i'the like to know. i kind of like the appearance of the golden temple but they will not email my questions regarding security boxes. better safe than sorry. there's a speed boat i read but how long does that take to get to seam reap and cost. the 1st week of october i hope is not too busy of a time to try to get a room at either of these to hotels. guys help me out as i got 6 weeks to try and figure out how i'm going to get from saigon to siem reap. all the reports were very helpful an am getting anxious to get the details of my trip done. 1st stop in siem reap will be martini's. later
The elephant ride sounds like a lot of fun. The carvings sound like something I'the like to see. I will get there in about 6 weeks and will be very happy to leave VN and see something other than hundreds of motobikes on the streets. Don't get me wrong, I like Saigon but need a little change now.
Great info guys! Thanks from those of us who want to get the most out of our SR visit.
[QUOTE=Dinghy]hours - "daylight to darkness" (angkhor wat itself is pretty much closed after dark - not many if any lights that I remember) The hill opposite (sunset temple) is open after dark but the bugs will eat you alive - if you walk down take the elephant trail ($15 ride up on an elephant) - not so steep and easy walking - otherwise it's a rock climb - sun goes below horizon, get down before the bugs get up there
great photos at bayon - as good as any postcard. and angkhor wat as well - the wall carvings are particulalry photoworthy. it CAN be done in 1 day but it's 6am to 630 or 7 pm in the process... and the rains seem to come at night right after dark and it gets pretty DEEP on the streets - 15cm was what I remember
good books were cheaper at the wat rather than buying in bookstore - probably cheaper still in the market (where ever that is) The local guidebook is good for the non-mongering stuff. I remember at least 2 free guidebooks (magazines)
there were 3 temples under reconstruction (giant puzzle work) 2 years ago when I went there[/QUOTE]
Yes to all this, and would add - if you stay at a decent hotel or B&B they will be able to recommend a good guide... three of us shared one who drove his own car and guided us... $25 a day for guiding and something like 20 for the car -- more expensive than other ways, but worth it in the heat to be taken in an a/c car and have someone who knew when to go where (e.g. to avoid crowds and get the best photos, etc.).
Books are all around - the street urchins and landmine victims walk around town with books you can buy, and there are a couple used bookstores in town. Cheaper buying there than before you leave home (but of course, you may not have time to read while you are mongering at night, so on second thought maybe you should read up before leaving home!).
[QUOTE=Saltydog]Can anyone help with the cost from Saigon to seam reap? VN airlines will not quote me a price on the phone.[/QUOTE]
Hope this might help,
[url]http://www.traveller2000.com/vietnam/international/airfares/reservation.htm[/url]
[url]http://www.royalkhmerairlines.com/fares.html[/url]
[url]http://www.tourismcambodia.com/Flights/[/url]
I think most of the hotels in Cambo under USD20 per day do not have in-room safe.
Thanks alot for all the information. VNA didn't say if the $166 was round trip from Saigon to Siem Reap and Khmer at $89 is diffently a much better price. The information didn't say round trip either. Either way the airfare is a good price to fly there from either airline. I hope Khmer airlines isn't still flying those Russian airplanes. I read an article about 1 plane flying into a mountain because it didn't have the kind of radar that can see thru fog and see the terrain. I saw a picture of it and it was an older model style plane. I hope to drink a cold beer on the elephant ride though. Need some more information on where exactly that's at. 1 week in Saigon and! Week in Siem Reap should be enough for me. Thanks for all the help.
Salty,
If you have arrangement with tuk-tuk driver to Angkor, Ask him to take you to see the sunset before you go back to the hotel at around 5pm. That place is also at a ruins but the trails going up the hill is quite a hike for those young man only at heart. There is elephant ride going up from here.
If you have time, you can go by bus from Saigon to Phnom Penh which around 8 hours ride and is less than USD20, party in the capital and then to Siem Reap at <= USD10 by Bus also for around 6 hours.
Capitol does the trip to S.R. for around 6 $ and (sometimes) stop at their downtown office after letting people off the bus at the official bus station.
Just thought I'd update, sitting here at the Golden Orange hotel at the bar on the free internet they have. Out last night, near pub street with Doug the owner, great guy and very knowledgable on the scene around here. Went to regular places like Zone One and Sok San lot's of cuties all over the place. Had a friend with me so I couldn't pick up but it seems even though it is low season that there are plenty of choices and ladies available.
After getting over a nasty hangover aquired at the laid back X BAR upstairs across from the end of pub street, I headed over to some of the special massage locations that others had posted on. Went to Blue wave passed it and found the massage sign and went down the dirt alley to find a house around 6pm, one cute spinner friendly but a bit of a Mr. you do me kinda girl. and spoke some Thai aquired working in the Poipet casino brothels. 10 bucks but took some haggling with my tuk tuk driver.
Doug just closed the restaraunt (great food bye the way) so I'm off to pub street for a meal then to the places around the corner from Zanzibar where I found a cute little Viet girl but the performance of a pornstar. Stopped by and had her put herself on hold for a 11pm pick up by me.
If you get a chance come to Siem Reap and see Angkor, the nightlife is decent and allows you to round off the trip with various activities. Price a bit more than PP but not terribly bad if you put forth a bit of effort.
If you need anything just ask the staff or Doug here at the Golden Orange and they can get it for you. I didn;t try the in room massage service which I have heard to be great but maybe next time.
Off to Battambong in the morning by boat pick up at 6am then I will post on Battambong in other areas once I get to PP.
Barang
[quote=saltydog]can anyone help with the cost from saigon to seam reap? vn airlines will not quote me a price on the phone.
i hope it's not too expensive as i would like to spend the money in cambodia. the golden temple guest house seems like a nice place to stay according to the reports but what is the security like there. do they have in room security boxes so i can keep my stuff in? hotel looks good but is my first choice to the golden orange so i'the like to know. i kind of like the appearance of the golden temple but they will not email my questions regarding security boxes. better safe than sorry. there's a speed boat i read but how long does that take to get to seam reap and cost. the 1st week of october i hope is not too busy of a time to try to get a room at either of these to hotels. guys help me out as i got 6 weeks to try and figure out how i'm going to get from saigon to siem reap. all the reports were very helpful an am getting anxious to get the details of my trip done. 1st stop in siem reap will be martini's. later[/quote]glad to hear so many have tried my advice and stayed at the golden orange. as far as lock boxes golden orange has a huge box. large enough to put computer and camera. i personally am looking forward to going back to sr in november, for those that have not been there make it a stop. am seriously thinking about spending 6 months a year over in cambodia and sr so far top of list. planning on 3 month trip in november to explore more of cambodia. like to get to know snooky since what i have read could be very laid back. fromn what i remember rental condos going up left and right in sr with rent in the $150us per month.
Does any one know if there is a safe or security box at the Mandalay Inn?
I am staying at this hotel in Oct.
Does anyone know if its GF?
[QUOTE=Mauldid]Does any one know if there is a safe or security box at the Mandalay Inn?[/QUOTE]I was there in May, had a small room on the second floor with a double bed. I did not see any safety boxes, and there weren't too many hiding spots. Nothing went missing although i always locked my bag before i went anywhere. Nice place, never brought any girls back but after researching the forum before i left most reports were positive with bringing the girl back. Nice hotel with nice staff and close to pub street.
Nice to know I'm not the only one concerned about being safe. Who would think about carrying around a bunch of money into town. Sure it's good to know where it's at but it is a little crazy. Of course we all will leave stuff in the room but our stuff is always on your mind. I appreciate the feedback on the security of the rooms in a few hotel mentioned here. While going on tour it's good to know what the hotel is like. There was a report on a hotel in PP and the guy said when he went to his room unexpectedly there were a bunch of people hanging out and one of the guys was wearing one of his shirts. Imagine that one! Kind of hard to believe but Cambodia is not VN. The police in VN have a thumb on the people there and I believe they know how to behave. Not long now and I'll find out.
Will be in town the first weekend of October.
If anyone's going to be there at that time PM me.
Just got thru spending a week at the Golden Orange Hotel and like the report said everything there is good. The Austrailian beef was excellent, can't beat the T-Bone, Rib Eye for just $7 bucks. What a nice hotel and bar. Spent a little time at Martini's, Zone One, Blue Wave and didn't like those places so just had a few beers and left. What ever happened to the chase? Buy a drink and they want to go. Didn't like what I saw anyway. One evening a group of guys from Mexico, Spain, Australia, England decided to jump into a couple of tuk tuks and take a ride to the Sok San Palace. The group went into the disco and I got lost and ended up at the end of a hallway staring thru a glass to see about 20 girls sitting with numbers. I went in and told the guy that I just wanted to look. He said $50 and I was gone. I caught up with the guys only for a short time. There was this Kymer girl fumbeling for a lighter so being a nice guy I lit her cigerettte. We were talking and then I noticed the guys moved to another area of the disco. We talked some more for maybe 30 minutes and finally asked if she would like to go with me and she held up 4 fingers. I said no and she put up 3 so I said ok. She was 20 years old and I would say a good 40 kilos. Very good looking Kymer woman and we spent the night and 2 times was enough for me. Had to get up early and hit the temples again. Many of the tuk tuk drivers have a look of disgust when you mention Vietnamese women. They all said bad, bad, very mean so I took their advice. Went back to the disco and noticed many young very pretty women there hanging out. Talked to another and off we went. The Kymer womem have very hard names to remember so I can't tell you guys any of the names. I haven't been to PP but I think next time in Cambodia I will see less temples and more of the Sok San Palace Disco. Like one guys said here "One pile of rocks looks like another. " I'm back on the side.
Sorry this is long overdue. I have explained myselfin the PP forum. Please read this in conjuction with that report also.
5/9/07 - Arrived from PP in am. Got to the Mandalay Inn where I was staying. Got settled in and spoke to staff and the owner's wife. Her hubby is Burmese apparently. Anyway, arranged all my tours etc with them. Went out to Banteay Srei and Pre Rup. Also caught my first glimpse of the mighty Angkor Wat before sunset. In the evening I went on a wild goose chase around various bars and clubs with no success whatsoever. There didn't seem to be any normal girl bars like in PP. Zanzybar near my hotel was dead. My hotel staff warned me off Martinis due to local troubles. I ended up getting an alleged, young Viet girl from one of the brothels with pink lights on the road that Zone One is on. It was agreed on $25 for 2 hours. $15 paid to the guy there and $10 to the girl on completion. Her english was non-existent but she seemed to suggest she wasn't Viet. Anyway, at the hotel she also refused to shave down there. Also pictures were not really allowed. DATY & Oral waer ok but she did have a fine body all round. Sex was average and I didn't cum. No anal of course.
6/9/07 - early start for sight-seeing. Bayon at dawn with no-one else there - amazing experience. Preah Khan and then the whole afternoon for Angkor Wat, which nearly killed me in the heat! That night I went out expecting to just go back to those brothels. Spotted though, the Zanzybar was kicking. Full of Khmers and I was in a Viet mood. Played pool with this lively older-looking, thin chick that I really wanted to nail. Ended up asking her to call me next day around 12 pm. I was sure I made it v. clear that I was leaving for PP at 3pm. Ended up leaving and going to another brothel in the same area as before. Picked out another gorgeous, young Viet girl for $25. Practically identical service to the night before but sex was better and I came whilst doing her doggy and spurted all over her backside!! Success at last!!
7/9/07 - Went to Rolous in the am. Shopping and lunched whilst waiting and hoping for a call from the Zanzybar chick. My mobile rang but then hung up. It called again from the same no. and I answered. I started explaining to her that time was of the essence etc. It soon transpired that it wasn't who I expected but the useless chick from PP from my 1st day there. I told her I had asked her to call on Sat and it appeared her friend had disappeared. I hung up, knowing I wouldn't hear from her again. Time passed and no other call came. Before I knew it, I was flying back to PP.
As it happens, that girl did call me that night but I had to explain I was back in PP. She was gutted!! Please return to the PP report for the rest....
Took the 6-hr bus from PP. arrived in SR after dark. Very glad to see my name on a board waving by the driver that Golden Orange sent. After checking in I wasted no time and head out for an adventure. I forgot to bring the city map, but the streets were so dim-lighted I wouldn't be able to read anything anyways. Wandered up the main road and became lost immediately. F it. Flagged down a tuktuk and asked for Martini.
Arrived at M too early - there was only 1 other guy inside, but I noticed bunch of working girls sat around outside and they looked okay. Mamasan sent me this smallish girl with short hair (face 5). She tried to give me a massage, but was actually only pinching my skin. Asked mamasan for a change and was given a taller girl with sexy long hair (face 6). Negotiate with mamasan for a takeout. M said $50! No way. I countered for $30. And between leaving the front door and stepping in the tuktuk, price had dropped down to $35. I eventually said no because I thought she was a bit too young (20) for me.
Asked driver was immediately asked if I wanted a Vietnam lady. He took me to chicken house#1 and after a quick lineup, none scored more than a 4. I shoke my head and off we went to house#2. I picked lady#1 and the price negotiation took place betwen driver and Viet guys. I settled for $35 for overnight. I know I know. I probably overpaid, but I wasn't going to sleep by myself on first night.
Her name was yau, 21. I had to doublecheck her age because she was about 5'1" with a tiny tiny build. She was very responsive in bed and eager to please. The next morning I gave her a $5 tip.
Spent most of day 2 visiting the temples. Set my alarm clock at 11 and went for a nap. Woke up at 12! F*k! Gd alarm clock must have been in a different timezone! Got dressed and flagged down a motordup and headed over to zone1. From the number of girls hanging around near the entrance - apparently waiting for someone, I knew this must be a happening place. I was wrong. Yes the place was packed with locals and tourists (about 20:1) but not knowing a word of the language, it proved to be hard.
I tried all the standard approaches but none of them seem to want to make a connection. Yes there was a hardcore-looking pro who kept poking at my stomach, but with this much merchandise I didn't want to settle for a hardcore. At one point I sat down on a chair and tried to talk to this lady, but she stood up and left with her man, whom apparently was standing behind me all this time. I'm glad I didn't do anything out of line.
Hours went by. The music was good and crowd was crazy and 3am came and all-of-a-sudden the music stopped and lights came on. F*k! Last ditch action to salvage the night was unsuccessful. I could have flagged down a tuktuk and went for the chicken house routine again, but I was too tired. So day 2 ended with no catch.
Day 3 started with lots of sightseeing again. Went to Soksan massage. 60-min Cambodian massage (with boom boom) is $50, which is more expensive than Bangkok's 120-min Thai massage which will cost about $35. Soksan only has 6 girls in the fishbowl, but as soon as one got dispatched a new one would come in. I told the papasan to give me someone that really knows how to do massage, or I wouldn't return again. It turned out okay. She was about 26 although she said 21. Smallish build again and face 6. I liked the Khmer massage. It has all the standard Thai moves, plus some new ones. When massage was finished, I took a look at the Soksan disco. It was about 10pm and place wasn't crowded at all. So I flagged down a motordup and went to zone1 again.
Zone1 was packed again. And again I noticed lots of girls waiting around the front door. This time a short lady with deep voice showed me a seat and identified herself as the mamasan! I told her I would try my luck first, but she didn't quite understand that. This place gives me good vibes and I'm sure I'll be very happy man if I can speak more than a few Khmer words, but I digress. Anyways saw this stunner and when she walked passed me we exchanged glances. But I was going to make sure she didn't have a boyfriend first... Mamasan came over and showed me this girl. Wow, face 8 and nice rack! Mamasan wanted $50, but I negotiated it down to $35 all night.
Due to my earlier expedition at Soksan, I couldn't come! Kept working at it and changed position many times. Even stopped and cuddled a bit and picked up again, still couldn't come! Damn! Oh well, kicked her out at 2am because I had to get up early to take the bus to PP. She even gave me her cell#.
SR appeared to be a rough place. Dim or sometimes no street lighting, with lots of men hanging around on the street. Inspite of that, my 3 nights of roaming did not run into any trouble at all. They know what I want and they got what I want, so instead of robbing me, why not sell me some pussies? Good transactions generate more future sales.
Greetings to all mongers. I am in Siem Reap now and will be back to my home town on Sunday.
Im staying in the Angkor Century Resort and Spa. It will be great if theres someone from this forum and we can go looking for the girls together.
Tinair
Is anyone in Siem Reap now? Maybe we can look for the girls together.
[QUOTE=Tinair]Is anyone in Siem Reap now? Maybe we can look for the girls together.[/QUOTE]
don't bother the girls are expensive and give lousy service :(
Save your money for mongering in Phnom penh or bangkok.
The girls in Zanzybar give excellent hosting in the bar but when you get them one on one they are passive and not fun,
Sok sun is good for beer and athmosphere but not for one on one activities,
And the Viet brothels has plenty of girls who don't speak a word in English.
[QUOTE=Didi Vise]don't bother the girls are expensive and give lousy service :(
Save your money for mongering in Phnom penh or bangkok.
The girls in Zanzybar give excellent hosting in the bar but when you get them one on one they are passive and not fun, Sok sun is good for beer and athmosphere but not for one on one activities, And the Viet brothels has plenty of girls who don't speak a word in English.[/QUOTE]I agree with DIdi every thing here is double the price than Phnom penh , this is a toruist city but the Ankor wat is a must see so you should come here not for the mongering stay in PP instead.
Fast eddie 48
[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48]I agree with DIdi every thing here is double the price than Phnom penh , this is a toruist city but the Ankor wat is a must see so you should come here not for the mongering stay in PP instead.
Fast eddie 48[/QUOTE]I had a great time while there. Like I said on my posting the disco mentioned has some very nice girls there, and not double. I really do recomme the hotel and the disco. Now that I'm here and not there I can't wait for my next trip.
Will be arriving sometime around 12-15 for at least 2 weeks. Will stay at Golden Orange. If you want to catch up PM me.
Hi,
I'm looking for a good hotel (maybe 20-30 price range) close to the bar action. I read the Golden Orange is "away" from the action..is that true?
I've not been to Siem Reap and "did" do a search, but still would like info.
Thanks
[QUOTE=Redfield10]Hi,
I'm looking for a good hotel (maybe 20-30 price range) close to the bar action. I read the Golden Orange is "away" from the action..is that true?
I've not been to Siem Reap and "did" do a search, but still would like info.
Thanks[/QUOTE]Pretty small town. Nothing too far. Arrived Friday for another adventure. Got there about 10 PM. Ran into another memeber at Golden Orange. Was English guy with friend. Had a few beers down stairs then owner Doug arrived at Hotel with wife. He he is a;ways up for an adventure we went hunting and took his wife. What a fun lady. Anyway long story short Doug took us to local dsico called Sok San. Had girls on stage dancing (with clothes) but good atititude. Eventually 3 girls later we all left with smiles and went back to hotel bar with the girls. To put it politely we all ended up the next morning with smiles. As a matter of fact 3 days later one of the guys still has the same little bit of cuteness (calls her Sweet Pea). Come here one and all you just can not beat this little town. Heading out tonight for fantastic dinner a local Kobe restaurant for $17.50 per 7 course meal best meal in country. Be sure to ask Doug about it. Finest Japanese Tanpan Yaki cooking you will fine with Kobe beef. Be sure to go to build up your stamina.
So RF, you recommend Golden Orange, I take it. Any other centally located hotels you'd recommend? I tend to go for mid level hotels. Decent, but nothing luxurious. Thanks to whomever wants to answer.
[QUOTE=RetiredForever]Pretty small town. Nothing too far. Arrived Friday for another adventure. Got there about 10 PM. Ran into another memeber at Golden Orange. Was English guy with friend. Had a few beers down stairs then owner Doug arrived at Hotel with wife. He he is a;ways up for an adventure we went hunting and took his wife. What a fun lady. Anyway long story short Doug took us to local dsico called Sok San. Had girls on stage dancing (with clothes) but good atititude. Eventually 3 girls later we all left with smiles and went back to hotel bar with the girls. To put it politely we all ended up the next morning with smiles. As a matter of fact 3 days later one of the guys still has the same little bit of cuteness (calls her Sweet Pea). Come here one and all you just can not beat this little town. Heading out tonight for fantastic dinner a local Kobe restaurant for $17.50 per 7 course meal best meal in country. Be sure to ask Doug about it. Finest Japanese Tanpan Yaki cooking you will fine with Kobe beef. Be sure to go to build up your stamina.[/QUOTE]
I stayed at the Golden Orange about a year ago and liked it. The owner is a round eye who has a very pretty khmer wife. The inlaws are in the lobby all the time playing with the little kid. Nice family atmosphere.
The food was very good, service aone, and it's very GF.
What more can you ask for.
Shamas O'Dognasty
For whatever it is worth diid a little running around the other night just to see sights:
1. Pub St:Basically 1 block long with restaurants on either side of street that is closed to traffice at night. The is also an alley adjacent to it that has some more restaurants and bars. Be sure to try the Amok. About all that there is in this area. Mostly families and backpackers.
2. Zone one: Basically Khmer disco with several hundred people music loud and never stops. Typical disco. Sat outside for a while at restaurant that is part of complex. Mammasan approached me and offered girl. You will see about 2 dozen girls outside of entrance that are available. Price of drinks reasonable. Went inside and quickly approached by a #10. DEcided to buy her a few drinks. Her lady drink and my beer was about $4.75 each round. 80% are khemer men dancing together. Very large gay community.
3. Martini's: Much quieter but nice small disco. Only about 30 people inside. Quickly offered girl. Bought 2 beers/1 coke $12. Wanted $40 to take LT. Business apparently gone a lot so raising prices.
4. Blue Wave: Took one of the English blokes I met there. If there is one place in the world you are assured on getting lucky it is here. Very average looking ladies but very enthusiastic. Beer $2. Girl in back $25. Can get girls to take off panties and play with them while having a drink.Ended up taking home girl from there because of attitude. 2 days later still with me.
5. Apparently some little Khemer brothels right by the Zone one. Will investigate and report.
Very small town. All the places will require a tuk tuk to take you from one place to next. Usually 5 minute drive costing $1-2
Nice reports with helpful information that a new visitor like me can put to practical use. Staying in SR for 5 nights in early Jan and will be sure to check out your suggestions.
well, i'll chalk this one up to dumb adventures. flame me if you will, but this board has given me plenty, so i figure i should contribute my bad experiences for the benefit of everyone.
i went overland from bangkok to the cambodian border. i think i was wise getting a cambodian visa in advance because of all the touts and shady characters hovering around in no man's land, but it cost me more. i took a brutal taxi ride to siem reap for $50--i knew that was expensive before i left, but i can't imagine we didn't do $50 damage to the camry over that road--let alone the four hours it took to get there. the driver earned every penny of what he got out of it.
after doing the usual tourist things, i found a tuk tuk driver i liked and negotiated with him to take me around to the all the nightspots all night long for a flat $10--with the clean understanding that he wasn't taking any commissions for anyone or anybody at anytime. he was so overwhelmed with the opportunity, i think he was onboard with that agreement.
it being a sunday night, my expectations were low. the first place he took me was some sort of bar/massage parlor combo with a fishbowl. i'm sure it's mentioned elsewhere here but i don't have the name in front of me. the place was empty but the fishbowl was full. the papasan pointed out a couple of recommendations and i took one for the two hour trip. i think it was $20.
never having done this particular fishbowl scene before, i didn't find it to my liking. the girl was more interested in singing karaoake and watching videos than paying any attention to me. after about ten minutes i had my fill of crappy, sappy asian pop. i gave her $5 and called the deal off. the papasan was nice enough to refund my money, though, so if i were back there, i might give it a try. strike one, it but probably had as much to do with me being overly sensitive about things as the inattentive girl.
the driver took me to a massage parlor way out of town towards the airport, and assured me i'd have better luck there. rather than audition the talent, i decided to see who the firecracker receptionist would send to me. she sent in a woman who must have been 45 years old, much to my disappointment. i should have sent her right back out, but for some reason i went with the flow. the old lady gave me the most painful massage experience i have ever had. damn that hurt. so needless to say, i wasn't even considering extras after the first three minutes of the hour of torture. strike two.
couldn't blame the driver for these misfires, really, and i liked him anyway. he spoke english well and had a sense of humor. he laughed at my experience and took me on to zone one. i invited him in for a beer and i think the security let him only because he was with me.
zone one was much more my speed, even though i'm not into discos at all. for a sunday night, it was all going down. the driver stayed for one big beer and then left me to my devices. the same little cambodian mamasan lady came by and offered me two girls, neither of which did it for me. her assistant came later and offered two more, which i also passed on.
after a couple of beers on an empty stomach, i was feeling pretty good and ready to call it a night. on the way out i found the same mamasan with a gaggle of girls at the door and ended up taking one from her for the requested $50 long time, me clearly being too drunk to negotiate. the girl i took was reasonably cute, khmer and spoke no english. the driver took us back to the hotel and i tipped him $1. i thought for a minute he was going to wet himself in excitement.
up in the room the girl and i tried to talk for a while, looking at my travel pictures and then decided to get down to business. we seemed to be warming nicely to each other when she got one look at me and started in on the "you're too big" ploy.
now, i'm just as proud of my ankle spanker as i ought to be, but truth be told, i have fallen for this ruse before and wasn't about to give her a pass. it has worked fine for many without complaint. she offered a handjob as consolation, which i wouldn't even consider. she was firm in her "no boom boom" stance, so i made her put her clothes on and back we went to zone one. i had been feeling particularly fleeced on this trip, and there was no way i was going to be taken for a ride without being taken for a ride. heh.
surprise, surprise the mamasan wouldn't hear of giving me my money back. she wasn't going to give me anything and she called the club manager over to back her up. he listened to her story and, to my surprise, shrugged his shoulders at her and walked away. she then started giving me excuses why she couldn't give me the full $50, which included that she gave the tuk tuk driver $20 for bringing me. of course, i knew this was bull because a) i had the agreement with the driver and b) even if he did get a commission from her, i am quite sure it wasn't $20.
we argued loudly in front of the club and everyone for several minutes. she tried to duck and hide in the club but i wouldn't let her five feet from me. she then told me to wait and she called someone on her cell phone. realizing that whoever she was calling would be no help to me, i figured time was no longer on my side. i grabbed the little hand purse she carried, opened it up and took out a huge wad of bills. i counted out $50 for myself and handed everything else back to her. she was completely aghast, and frankly so was i that i had the balls to do this.
i walked over to the a tuk tuk driver and told him to drive like hell back to the hotel. we made a high speed getaway at about 15mph. on the way back to the hotel it occurred to me just what i had done. certainly a woman doesn't run a business like that alone, she's got to have 'protection'. after they finished dealing with the girl that refused, no doubt they would decide to 'talk' to me, if not before. since they could trace me back to my hotel via the girl or perhaps either tuk tuk driver, i figured it was time to move out, and i checked out of the hotel at 12:30am and walked for a long way until i found another hotel for the night.
earlier i had purchased a next day ticket for the boat ride to phnom phen through the hotel, but i knew i'd be eating this too as the hotel would probably give me up to anyone who came around asking. i didn't want to be met at the pier or followed to phnom phen by the cambodian marlon brando. i was at the airport road offices of vietnam airlines when they opened their doors the next morning, and got myself on the 10: 20 flight to saigon. the whole episode cost me much more than the $50 i would have overpaid.
lots of lessons here, but the behavior change for me will be not to deal with pimps and middlemen. any negotiating i do will be strictly between myself and the girl. cheaper and hopefully safer.
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Well did a little research other night for members. Went to chicken little area. According to local research this is the story. During high season the area not allow to put lights up outside. Local government does not feel appropriate for tourist industry. When slow season they have red lights outside with girls sitting on roadside. All are located down the short street to Zone One. You will see small walkway leading back to rear of different buildings. Just walk down and usually see a group of girls sitting there. There are usually a bunch of Khmer men standing around. Do not worry. They are just hanging around. Usually one of the better speaking ones will come over and try to convince you which one to take. They are small so think about taking two. Can lend itself to lots of fun. There are about 3 on right side. Some had as few as 3 girls. About 3 on left. The last one just before you get to the Zone One seemed to have the best with at least 14 with some real lookers. Just look for some type of movement down different walkways and enter. No need to bodily harm. Any harassment of tourists strickly forbidden with major problems if it happens. One of the places on left had about 6 girls run by a mamasan. Walked in and she just got all excited. Kept pulling up chairs just chattering away. Saw I was carrying a large beer so poured her half. Could not have appreciated more.
By the way forgot to mention on previous post that Sok San has a fish bowl. Walk in and the girls are all brought out and lined up. By way the girls I got from inside the dance area each accepted $30. There may be a mammasan but do not think so. They all seem to be freelancers. I know one of the girls must have been happy because it took me 2 days to get her to leave. Finally left this morning. Hoping she is not coming back. Very sweet girl but just must be getting too old. Two days with anyone is one day too long.
The is a club with girls called Top Town. One of the guys staying here went there the other night and spent about $100 in about an hour and came back with no girl.
Also hear from a local girl I know that works at X Club that it is very nice. Has glass windows and glass roof up on second floor that gives you a beautiful view of local area. Has very large plasma TV and AC. Have not been there but she claims very nice. Says they have sports or movies on TV depending what is going on that evening
Remember this is a small town with not a lot to do. Personally I suggest Sok San as first choice. Zone One very loud with mostly gay Khmer but lots of girls some stunning. If older may feel out of place but what the hell. Can not lose at Blue Wave but girls just okay at best. Have room in back if you do not want take out.
Well last post for here. Leaving for Laos. If I find anything interesting will report. Will be back in Siem reap at Golden Orange for 1 week about January 10 for 1 week to pick up friend then to PP. Found out where and how to get to No Hands Restaurant in PP. What they are floating restaurants about 15 of them. You catch boat from PP go down river for about 30 minutes. What I have been told cost of boat about $5 per hour. Get to house boat and you order food off of menu. Girls serve you and then select girl of choice for private session. Was told house boat 666 the best. Once find out full details will report under PP.
By the way I know I am always referring to Golden Orange. But you can not beat the info Doug can provide. Just read last posting experience so am adding this thought. If you stay here get tuk tuk driver Samreth has 4400 on his vest he has to wear. No commissions will be charged by any of Doug's drivers. Made mistake one night did not use and got driver off of the street to take me to Blue Wave. He had to be told how to find. Later on found out from girl driver had come inside and asked for a commission for bringing us there. But as with everything as we all because more experienced our cost ratios will decrease.
Hope my reports are simple and helpful. If any one needs any more info please feel free to PM me. I am just now beginning my final career (mongering) so feel like I should pass on whatever I learn. Most of my reports though contain what I know.
Sok San = Expensive
Blue Wave = Ugly chicks
Zanzaybar = Ladyboy palace
Conclusion: Go see the temples and get hammered at X bar all night. Siem Reap is no good for action.
I did a little field research here in SR regarding some Cambodian brothels. Starting at the Old Market, cross the bridge toward Martini's. With your back toward Martini's look ahead and left. There is a road along the river which you don't want. Follow the next road inland about 300 meters. Doremi Karaoki is on your right side. Standing outside the building, they pull back a curtain and you view the talent of 12 to 14 average girls from there. I was quoted $35 in the local hotel, everything included, or $50 take home. Dream World is just a little further down on the right with the largest selection of girls. 40 girls sit in chairs around the perimiter of a very large well lit room. You can walk around the room. On site is $40 and take home LT is $60. Your third option is Bopear Club (former hotel) again on the right. Here there were about 15 girls sitting outside the front entrance with an additional 5 inside toward the back. Here they quote $35 for short time or a bar fine of $15 for take home and negotiate the fee with the girl. None of these places had any English speaking talent. All were Cambodian and most seemed about average in looks. I didn't partake so can't comment on the rooms. Dream world seemed to be the most successful, based on the number of ladies present.
Well I think the secret to this twon is to find a guy who knows the places. Ie a good motorbike driver. Who can talk good english and let him take you around.
Last night I found such a guy. We went to Blue Wave. Girls were ok nothing great. But heck I had a $2 beer in one hand and the other hand was in a pussy. I declined the $20 room in back as wanted to go around.
Went to Martini. S nothing there for me.
Sok San. Had a nice massage with happy end. Didn't opt for boom boom tho. Gal was sweet and cute. No 28. Maybe $40. I can't recall
From there my guy took me to Do Re Mi. Didn't see anything I liked.
Then went to Angkor Valley. Off the beaten path. And ended up getting a sweet blow in a kareoke room. Cost $11 plus beers. Gal ws happy with $2 tips. These prices are crazy.
Then back to Blue Wave for some more fingering before calling it a night.
Bike driver dropped me back at my hotel. He hot $6. Great night. And all for much less than $100.
Found a bike rider who could take me round. Stoped in Blue Wave. And the gal I was with night before was realy super happy to see me. Or a good actress. SO I took her in the back room. US$ 20. And she gets $10 of that. Was glad to she was very hgienic. Anyways we had fun.
Sign in room states all the govt regulations about staying in a room. Including " no prostitution? " yeah right
Then went to Toptown. The KTV thing isn't my thing. But hey in a dark room with a pretty gal is. Truoble is in toptown and some other KTV I went they wanted US3 for a small bottle of beer. , . No thanks.
Anyways onto Martinis which is crap. May have sat with a ladyboy but I wasnt sure. US$7 for a stella.
And then I was going to head for home. But the driver says he knmows some place. Drive past the Meridien then turn right. Antena goes up when we go down a dark and dusty road. But eventually come to a street with maybe 100 kareoke places. All booming music. Lots Cambodian boys here obviously getting kicks. Sat in some room wth interesting sign on wall that says. " no guns, no explosives and no hand grenades allowed inside. " hold on honey, I've got to staore my hand grenade before enter. Haha
Anyways I sang, drank 12 beers with help of two ladies. Driver took me back and he got his US$6 for his help. A fun night.
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After dinner, out and about for a last night on the town. Ok. Started Blue Wave where yesterdays lady (pick of the crop but no idea of name). Was equally hapy to see me. And had no panties on. Ok time to get runs on board so her and me to the private room in back.
Motor bike rider procured and off we go. He took me to all sorts of places. Houses with girls sitting in front. All started quoting US$50 but al quickly went down to US$20. Even had one offer 15. Bu they werent my types. Plain faced janes. Anyways stopped for a beer in Zone one. Didn't see anything in disco so go to kareoke upstairs. Have a look at selection. Found one. In the room and start. But moment I touch her. She screams. Fine. I'm outta there. Went downstairs and sat outside. A mamsan found me a cute gal. But no english. So we sat and smiled and I couldn't imagine having this girl if we couldn't talk.
So off again and found a nice Vietnamese in a house. $17. And for ten minutes it didn't matter if she couldn't speak English.
Ok. Then off to Zanzy bar. Earlier here it says all ladyboys so was wary. But it had some very cute gals. And they allowed me to check that none were ladyboys. Sat and had beers with one. Took one back to hotel. And that was 3 days in Cambodia.
[QUOTE=Xdentx]I did a little field research here in SR regarding some Cambodian brothels. Starting at the Old Market, cross the bridge toward Martini's. With your back toward Martini's look ahead and left. There is a road along the river which you don't want. Follow the next road inland about 300 meters. Doremi Karaoki is on your right side. Standing outside the building, they pull back a curtain and you view the talent of 12 to 14 average girls from there. I was quoted $35 in the local hotel, everything included, or $50 take home. Dream World is just a little further down on the right with the largest selection of girls. 40 girls sit in chairs around the perimiter of a very large well lit room. You can walk around the room. On site is $40 and take home LT is $60. Your third option is Bopear Club (former hotel) again on the right. Here there were about 15 girls sitting outside the front entrance with an additional 5 inside toward the back. Here they quote $35 for short time or a bar fine of $15 for take home and negotiate the fee with the girl. None of these places had any English speaking talent. All were Cambodian and most seemed about average in looks. I didn't partake so can't comment on the rooms. Dream world seemed to be the most successful, based on the number of ladies present.[/QUOTE]
Was at hotel with this researcher at same time. Very dedicated to his work. Looked at old posts he has provided. Worth your time to read his posts
I was in SR a year ago and partook of the massage parlors on the road to the golden temple. There were 3 of them. Now all 3 seem are gone being made into guest houses I would guess. However, across the street from where they were is another "massage parlor". It's cheap, $5 I think. The masseuse was Kum Li. Not bad looking. She gives massage and teases a bit. Long story short, she will do nothing but sex with her on top. No bj of any kind. She got completely naked, got on top and rode me to completion. Extra tip was $20. I would probably not repeat.
so, this is my first report to the isg forum, after a long time reading only.
first time in cambodia, didn't peruse the isg as deeply as i should have, so i'm sure i missed many interesting mongering places.
stayed at the golden temple hotel. very gf friendly.
night 1:
on my first night in, walking back to the hotel from pub street, i found (lol they found me! ) a bunch of girls on the right side of the street. couldn't stay all alone on my first night, did i?
so i took the one i thought the prettiest and bought here to the light. half-luck here, face 7, small top, small back, 1, 55m of khmer.
my first answer to the announced price (40$ st) was one i used a lot later: "ahaha! not first night in cambodia anymore! " (what a liar i am).
from this point the price went downhill a bit, and we stopped at 25$ for a full yumyum and a nice boomboom just after. we go to the flat at the end of the alley, close the door, "disrobe", quick shower ("nice small tities you have"), and my first bbbj. no cim, cif ok. pause for battery charging, missionary (nice & tight) followed by doggy style and back to the hotel to start my holidays!
night 2:
up at 4:30 am for sunrise and photography, angkor what and other temples. back to the hotel, motobike to tokyo massage. 30-35$ massage + boomboom. nice viet girls around 25 y. o. , range from 5 to a 9 in faces. nice massage.
dinner then tuk-tuk to zone one. some girls in miniskirt having dinner in front of the club, but i's way too early for zone 1 (9:30pm).
back to hotel then motorbike to martini (1, 50$. everywhere, almost, is 1$ away in the city. often less after haggling.)
now, i'm in a lazy mood and ask papasan to send me a "pretty girl". huge error, papasan and myself don't have the same tastes at all. first girl goes back (face 3, rack 3, acne? too much). now the club gets absolutly dark, hard rock music starts, papasan is back with girl in absolute darkness. so i check with the lighter and well, its a 6. finish the beer, go speak with mamasan, haggle to 30$ all night (i was a bit drunk, papasan told me she was sex crazy, it was 11:00 pm, what the hell.).
girl comes with me, i stop at the supermarket to get some drinks and the girl get all "ohh, buy me this, buy me that, this please, please. "not. a. good. start. (tm). i buy her some shampoo, back to the hotel. now begins the nightmare. no yum-yum. boom-boom after i insist, straight, with a mobile phone ringing every 5 minutes, and a girl resisting all tries. as i wasn't in a [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] mood, had already paid the mamasan, so i finish my thing and the girl start to dress! reminding her that all night is at least until sun-up, i now have a girl that don't speak english anymore, except to ask for her shampoo and some extra money. i laughted at that, told her that she would have to be nicer to get gifts and put here out of my room. after hearing some noises, i dress up and find her exploring and starting to chat with reception guy. i took her to the barrier, gave 1$ to the guard and told him to throw her out for me. which he actually did in a very no-nonsense way 8) she actually flew the last 2 meters. nice guard, you have other tips coming you way.
i was a bit frustrated by now and decided to go to the girls 100 meters from the hotel. quick shag with girl from first night, 15$ due to lateness. sleep, at last
night 3:
god i hate temples. i'm half dead from the heat, and i find a very nice massage parlour. no sex (sorry). just massage.
it's called frangipani and it is just behind pub street, in what i can only call "restaurant street". 28$ for hot oil massage, 90 minutes, one of the best massage i had before hitting the 100$, sofitel spa. go to tokyo massage if you want the boom-boom part, but for a real massage go to frangipani.
photography convention at the fcc, i meet some photographers and find myself in a french bar called laundry (no-girls) with french pastis and saucisson discussing photography and girls with the expats.
best club to find girls is "temple", on pub street. the more beautiful ones from zanzibar and other clubs + non-pros actually meet there to get the more "upscale' clients. bingo!
so i finish at temple, have a drink and look at the scene. most of the girls are pretty, and there seem to few katoe (important, coming back later.).
so i play pool with a tall one called lita (face 7, slim 1. 7m girl with glasses and a huge smile), and a short one called jeanny (face 7 but nice smallish body). a few drinks later (my personnal hebriety being quite high already) i decide to get the two girls i was playing pool with to the hotel. lita already told me "she would very much like to finish the night with me", blushing all the time. so i take jeanny also and on we go.
shower, one at a time, no showing of tits before starting, but ok, nice ambiance. get the two in my bed and jeanny start bj with condom while i play with lita. jeanny nice short but a bit flat, lita tall slim and flattish, but more tits than jeanny. when things start to get serious, lita tells me she prefer we do boom-boom on our own and than i can change to jeanny later. seems bad, but she actually is a nice (tight) girl. so i finish with lita, find myself half asleep, jeanny already, lita in my arms going sleepy also.
i then wake up around sunup and start waking up jeanny for my little extra with her. to make a long story short, in daylight and whithout the binge acting, a very quickly found out my girl had a dick and was lubricating his/her/its tights to make me think he/she/it wasn't.
i don't think i ever went flask faster, anytime.
everyone was still half asleep so i gave lita 25$ and jeanny 15$, sent them home and went back to sleep the 2 hours i still had.
night 4:
this night was to be an easy one. had massage at frangipani, went to diner, went to bar, finished at temple. took lita again, and she asked me if i was angry she didn't tell me i also took a ladyboy home the night before. i nicely told her it was no problem, and that there was no real damage done.
all night, 4 times with her, fingering her anus and getting the best of her lithe body was my vengeance. damage: 25$.
night 5:
after the temples, i went to the blue pumpkin bakery (end of pub street, best bakery in town), frangipani massage, had dinner in front of the red piano and two girls (lita and pia, which lita assured me was a real girl) from temple for a threesome. pia was very nice (bbbj, cof but no cim) and lita agreed to share the bbbj. finished up with the two girls on their knees their backs turned to me, and me changing girls whenever i felt like it. good. very good. had another session with the two, fell asleep of sheer exhaustion. gave 25$ each for very good service and being good girls all night long. lita proposed, but i refused to have lita come with me on the next leg of the voyage.
end of stay at siem reap. next is phnom penh, capital of vice.
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ok, came from pp, a previous report and arrived in siem reap about 3pm. it was early so we made our plans for going to the angkor wat the next day, then we walked around for a couple hours. on the way back to the room we walked on some back roads where you will not see and other barangs and all of the locals were so friendly. every person on the block waved at us and said “hello”, i wasn’t use to that, i thought they were going to follow with saying buy this or give me some money that, or want a ride or something. but, they just genuinely wanted to say hello and smile. i started to like the place a lot.
ok, first night for mongering in siem reap, went to blue wave first. it was kind of early, maybe 7pm. only about 6 girls there and we did not find them that interesting. we had a drink, got groped for awhile and left. i believe they wanted about $20 to go up stairs for boom boom. we walked to zone one next, it’s a nightclub disco kind of place. it was kind of slow when we walked in and for some reason a lady insisted that we should sit upstairs, they gave us the special treatment because we were foreigners. nothing happened for about 20 minutes, all the while i was thinking someone will bring us ladies or we would be approached. ok, finally a momasan comes up with a couple girls, i really liked mine, but she did smell like she needed a shower. my friend didn’t really like his girl too much, and he said his girl smelled like she needed a shower too. maybe the girls stay in some hot room with no a/c or something. we wasted a lot of time there and i was about to take my girl, momasan wouldn’t go lower than $35 for lt, but my friend didn’t like his girl, so i told moma that he wanted a new girl. the new girl was better… and for some reason she had a bad smell to her too. i was very close to taking my girl, but it was still early and i didn’t want to end the game. we left and i thought maybe moma would lower the price again, but she didn’t. we were curious about those massage places on that road and walked in some of them. we tried to figure out if extra service was available, but the people in the front room would not talk about it. we didn’t want to take a chance of lousy or no service so we didn’t try. we then used the internet café there had some drinks and read this website for some more intel. we later walked up the road and some viet girls got our attention, they said boom boom for $10, the problem is we didn’t like any of them. we went up the road not much farther and some cambodian girls with a momasan said boom boom. i think they quoted us $25. we said too much and they went down to $20. a few of them were kind of cute, but they only wanted to talk money this, money that, so we walked up the road some more. we walked by a place that had a girl wave at us, but there were about 6 local guys sitting down waiting for their turn or something, we didn’t like that scene so we walked on. we saw some suspicious places but didn’t really find and definite p4p places. we walked back to the girls that wanted $20 for boom boom and we took their offer, my friend was kind enough to let me have the one i wanted, she kind of reminded me of my ex-wife ( how sad huh? ha-ha), anways we went to the room and she insisted on me paying up front, i protested for awhile and then i gave in and gave her the $20. ok, so it’s hot in the room and i see an a/c on the wall. i couldn’t figure out how to turn it on, so i asked her to turn it on. she demanded i give her $5 to use the a/c… shit i was pissed, i said no and she turned on a fan and said is that ok. i wasn’t happy but i said ok. i took a quick shower being careful with my wallet. she then took a shower and she wouldn’t do anything, she just laid on the bed, i wasn’t happy again, i asked her to do something and she said i had to pay $40 for the whole package… dammit, i was pissed. she had a nice body, so i was going to try to make the best of it. i was sweating bullets trying to get myself off and after awhile i was losing interest since she had no motion going on,.. and what’s up with girls in cambodia just picking their nose in front of you, this happened to me many times in a few days.. i bring this up because i’m on top of her trying to get myself off and she picks her nose while i’m banging her …wtf??? ok, i was intent on getting $20 worth. i told her to go in the doggy position and she said no… wtf? she said i have to pay her more…. i got so mad i stopped and told her i want to talk to moma and get my money back, i let her know she sucks, not in the good way. she hesitantly went doggy, and i noticed that it looks like she lets guys do her in butt, because it looks beat up. anyways, i do this, but she is dry now, it’s hot, and she made me so mad. i eventually quit with disgust. she asked me for a tip, and i told her she needs to try and do a better job and guys in her future might give her tip. i guess that was my tip for her.
my friend said he had a great time with his girl and she was willing to do whatever he wanted, and she turned on the a/c for no extra charge.. wtf?? well, my girl got dressed in panjamas like she was done working for the night, i thought that was odd.
so, we go scouting some more and i was deciding whether i would call it the night or go back to zone one to find that one girl i liked earlier, but we decided to check out martini’s. as soon as we walked in 2 girls seemed to come from no where and joined us at our table. the were dressed nicely as if they worked there as in a non-working girl kind of work. we were only offered to order beers, so we ordered our beers, which were big bottles and the waitress automatically poured some for the girls… hmm.. we didn’t offer them any. i figured the idea was for them to drink up the beer were ordered to make the bar more money. about every other song they wanted to dance, ok, i had fun, i thought she was some normal non-working kind of girl and i had a lot of fun with her, also she was so fine looking i was hoping i could somehow take her to my hotel. after two orders of beers we decided to leave and nothing was mentioned about st or lt. i was surprised with the bill. we were charged $3 each, for the 2 girls. i guess we got charged for their company. then i got to thinking.. ok, that’s how that bar works… where are the working girls? we walk out and they follow, now we see more girls sitting outside with a momasan. i was actually hoping they would ask me if i wanted the girl, and yes…..well moma asked me if i want to take her back to my room, and moma liked to mention that i can take her to angkor wat with me. hmm.. i thought that was pretty cool, someone hot to hangout with and boom boom when i want. moma said $40 lt, or $30 st. hmm.. i got it down to $35 lt. but, i said i would wake up early the next morning to go to angkor wat, she said no problem… for some reason i wanted to make a deal to keep her for 2 days. i couldn’t talk moma down any lower than $70 for 2 nights. ok, so i pay the $70 and we go to our hotel the golden orange, which is very girl friendly. the girl acted very open in the bar, but she turned out to be extremely shy once she laid in the bed. we watched tv for about 45 minutes and i thought it was ok to help make her get comfortable with me. after me groping her for awhile she told me in her only english, to go shower… that’s a good sign. i shower, then she showers, then she lays in the bed like a virgin… i was beginning to think she was very new in the job. i treated her very well and kissed her all over the place and she acted like nobody ever did that to her before, alright, so i have to get on top and do all the work, but she was so sexy, i had my good time.
next day we do the angkor wat thing, come back to the room and i was hoping for some more boom boom, but she seemed mad for some reason. i could not figure out why because she could not speak any english. i was getting a little mad at her because it was obvious i was not going to get any boom boom from her. i did my best to let her know to call moma, because i want to talk to moma and let this girl go, and get half my money back. she acted like 2 days was too long and she wanted to go home. anyways, i ask the front desk to be a translator for me, what she told them was she just wanted to go to her room and get new clothes… so i said ok, we go to your room and get new clothes, but she changed her mind… hmm.. i didn’t understand, i thought maybe she was going to leave and not come back. we had a special dinner going on down stairs but she didn’t want to go, so i went by myself. later on she went down there to get some food. i went up stairs and after my groping her for awhile she let me boom boom her again, but it wasn’t fun because she was acting like i was keeping her slave and didn’t want to be there.. well.. once again, she was so sexy.. i had my happy ending anyways. my friend wanted to go back to martinis to get the girl he met the night before, so i told the girl i would go there and she said she would just stay in the room. i just made sure there wasn’t much for her to take. we went to martini’s and all the girls were dressed up like they were going to a high school prom. there were some real hotties there. so moma said where’s my girl and i just said she’s still in my room. we take his girl and back to the hotel, where i have a couple more drinks. no more boom boom that night, but i didn’t have the energy anyways. she woke up at 730am wanting to leave.. well crap.. i wanted to try boom boom again before her leaving, but i didn’t mind so much because i wanted to save some power for pp, because we were heading back. she asked if she could leave and i said go ahead, i didn’t want to feel like i was keeping her against her will. she asked me for some tip, but i only gave her enough for motorbike. ok, so i go back to sleep and about 90 minutes later someone knocks on my door, i thought it was the maids or something… hmm.. to my surprise the girl came back, i thought maybe she left something in my room.. but no.. she was just acting all sweet and kind and stuff.. hmm.. i thought that was odd. she got back in bed with her clothes still on and watches tv. well, i might as well feel her nice boobs some more. she tells me to take a shower.. ahh… “that’s a thing to hear”. so i shower and come back and for some reason she seems interested in having sex, she pretty much undresses herself instead of me previously having to almost [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] her. then she even tries to give me a beginners bj, hmm.. probably the first time she did that. she still would not get on top,.. ok no problem i get on top and it’s all good, i wanted to leave with trying her doggy. she said no, i was a little disappointed there, so i tried and tried to convince her and she finally did. she didn’t know how to bend over right, well, i made it all good and finished… cleaned up.. then she asks for a tip again… ok ok, i gave her $10 tip and she left… so i’m guessing a friend or moma said give me boom boom again and she might get a tip.
all in all i had a great time, it’s nice to try the innocent never boom boomed much girls, but they are usually lackluster in bed… that day we got the owner of the hotel to find us a taxi to pp, and we got one for $55, the taxi only took 4 hours flat to get there and that was even with a 10 minutes stop.
Spent five days in Siem Reap earlier this month. The first day was a wash-out due to getting violently ill from the food on Bangkok Airways. How do I know for sure it was that particular food? Because it was the only thing I ate the entire day except for some bread and tea for breakfast, and because the timing was exactly right. 15 days in Thailand eating street food and fried bugs and I never got sick. Fucking airlines.
Anyway, I stayed at Home Sweet Home guesthouse and they offered free airport pick-up in a tuk tuk. I saw a few obvious boom boom places on the ride in but the kid would not stop, even when I offered him a tip; he said he had to get back to the hotel.
The second night I went back out there and went in a couple of places but the women did not seem to want to be there and it smacked of white (or brown) slavery so I did not partake. I was quoted $20 US in both places.
The next night I struck up a conversation with a tuk tuk driver near my hotel and he took me to some places where I don't think too many gringos go. Most of them were lit with gas lamps and the wood smoke from the cooking stoves in the neighborhood was kind of a drag. I did fuck a gal at one place for $10. She said she was from PP but that there was more work in SR because of the tourism connected to Angkor Wat and so forth. It was okay. She wasn´t really into it but did fake it fairly well.
Next to Home Sweet Home there is a "karaoke" place that was also $10 but you had to buy a drink for you and one for her for a total of $4 more. I bought the drinks but I wasn't really into it and it was very hot so I left.
Night 4 I was eating dinner in the restaurant upstairs on the corner (by Home Sweet Home, above the AIR CONDITIONED grocery store) and two women came in with a baby. I noted that the baby was mixed race and that made me suspect they were hookers. After dinner we began to chat and one spoke pretty decent English. I told her where I lived and she began to speak Spanish! She said she had learned it in the Canary Islands. I believe it because she spoke with a pronounced Spanish accent and also used "vosotros." So then I was sure she was a hooker; how else would a Cambodian wind up in the Canary Islands? It wasn't particularly good Spanish but it was fun to find another Spanish speaker in such a faraway place.
So I took them to see some of the traditional "nymph dancing." I can't remember any more what it is called. It was very hot in the bar and I knew I would not be able to stand it for very long. I had AC in my room at HSH ($12 a night with air or $7 with a fan and I recommend the place) but you can't bring hookers there. I asked her if she wanted to go with me and she said fine but said she could not bring me to her place either. We ended up renting a room for $5 an hour that had a ceiling fan and a floor fan and had some hot, sweaty sex. I gave her $20 US and 200 Thai baht as a tip. She seemed only moderately satisfied with this but she sucked down several drinks at the bar so I thought it was fair.
The next day I stopped at one of the places on the way to the airport but again I did not like the vibe so I left. Cambodia was fun. The people were nice. I did see a guy punch a woman in the face as I was walking home one night. I was considering intervening but she punched him right back so I figured she could take care of herself.
Angkor Wat was okay but over-rated and completely commercialized. In general it was hard to walk five feet without someone trying to sell you something but I understand the desperate poverty that subsumes the country. A guide I talked to said he came from PP to SR because in SR the unemployment was "only" 30%. He said it was 60% in the country as a whole and close to 50% in PP. I did not go to PP so I have no idea. The food was pretty good but not as good as Thailand and not nearly as spicy. The lack of air conditioning got to be a real drag but I have a low heat tolerance.
Again, a place I will probably never return to but overall I liked it. I recommend going to the new museum in town BEFORE going to Angkor Wat as you will understand more about the place. Unfortunately I did not do that. I can't imagine spending an entire week at that complex like some people were talking about doing. I went for an entire day and later for a couple of hours and I thought that was plenty. Hot hot hot. Also very hard to walk around except for when they close off the streets in the French Quarter at night. And dusty. And hot. And smelled like garbage which was almost a relief after smelling shit in Phuket and Pattaya. And the wood smoke is not pleasant. Probably the most underdeveloped country I have ever visited, so plan accordingly. Very cheap, especially if you are willing to bargain. Don't pay $2 for a beer at Angkor Wat as they will sell you one for a dollar if you are prepared to walk away.
Was in Siem Reap last week so here is a bit of a update. As the P4P scene isn’t as in your face as Phnom Penh thought I would post a few things from my notes.
The main tourist hang out is Pub Street. You will find a few FL here. Just keep looking and make some eye contact. One night I was just having a beer around midnight at a place next to the street. Four girls sat down at the next table and invited me to join them. Midnight is getting late on Pub Street so think they were about to call it a night and just got together for a beer. There is a place named The Temple Bar and Restaurant on Pub Street. Look for FL there starting fairly early in the evening until late. It stays open later than most places and has a tiny dance floor. Check around the back pool table. I pulled from here kind of late after making some eye contact with the girl earlier in the evening. You should be able to arrange LT for $30 or so.
Blue Wave is a short tuk-tuk ride away from Pub Street. It tries to be a hostess bar but the talent level is very bad. Only saw one cutie there in two nights. Nice ST rooms in a guest house very close. $20 total put on your bar tab. You might regret going here with the talent level.
Zone One is a restaurant and disco. It is a little out of the way but not too far by tuk-tuk. Most of the customers will be locals. They have several mamasans and fair selection of girls but stunners are rare. I did not pull from here as I was asked for $60 LT. But when I said no mamasan said “How much you give?”. You can deal here but I don’t know how much.
If you walk out of the Zone One parking lot and turn right in a couple of blocks you will find a Viet brothel. The entrance is down between two buildings and there will be a guy sitting out near the sidewalk inviting you inside. Some of my friends went inside, looked around and left. This isn’t my kind of scene. There were young Khmer guys hanging around the entrance acting like silly middle school boys and I doubt the girls have any choice about being in their situation (just my opinion). There is at least one more place across the street and maybe more on this street. You are out of the tourist area in these neighborhoods but I felt safe enough.Think some of these places have pink lights out by the sidwalk when it isn't high season.
Sok San is a disco and fishbowl and it located fairly close to Pub Street. Went in before the disco was going and a few feet past the disco is a BIG fishbowl with many girls. One of the guys running the place sat and asked our group if we wanted to pick. I asked the price and he said $60 ST <cough>. We got up and left. The disco gets going later and I though there would be FL action. But a mamasan was controlling the action and I didn’t even ask the price after the fishbowl incident. Sok San sort of tries and be a GoGo also. The have a long runway stage and a few girls come out and dance in bikinis, etc.
Martini Disco is not far from Pub Street. A previous report in this thread has a lot of info. They have a few girls and a mamasan. I didn’t try to pull from here. But my friends were quoted the previously mentioned $60 LT so you will have to work hard for a reasonable price.
If you take the road in front of Martini, not the road next to the river, for a short distance there will be a large building set back off the road a bit, on the right side, with a large parking lot. When you go inside you will find a very large room (maybe 80’ x 40’) with MANY girls lined up next to the walls. The place is brightly lit and it seems very awkward standing in the middle of the room in the bright light. We were quoted $60 LT and moved on. But I just didn't like the feel of the place and maybe didn't give it a fair shot. Think the name of this place is in this thread somewhere way back.
So these are the places I ventured. Someone can probably give better details on some of these places. I mostly compiled my list of places from this thread and with a little help from Doug.
I would not come to Siem Reap just for P4P. But if you are here doing the tourist thing there is some action. If you are just here for a short time I would probably try and pull from Pub Street when possible. But it can be an adventure to check out the other spots. You can get a tuk-tuk driver to haul you around to these places (and others) for about $2 an hour. But many of the drivers will get a kickback for taking you to certain places. Probably nothing wrong with checking out some of these places but also make sure you know where you want to go as they may not even suggest some of the other places.
RMW
[QUOTE=RockyMtnWay]Was in Siem Reap last week so here is a bit of a update. As the P4P scene isn’t as in your face as Phnom Penh thought I would post a few things from my notes.
The main tourist hang out is Pub Street. You will find a few FL here. Just keep looking and make some eye contact. One night I was just having a beer around midnight at a place next to the street. Four girls sat down at the next table and invited me to join them. Midnight is getting late on Pub Street so think they were about to call it a night and just got together for a beer.
RMW[/QUOTE]I totally agree, you should not go to Siem Reap just for p4p. You should mainy go here to see the Ankor Wat temple, one of the top 10 wonders of the world. However, this is a tourist town and everything is more expensive here.PP has alot more action and cost is much cheaper for p4p .
Fast eddie 48
[QUOTE=RockyMtnWay]Was in Siem Reap last week so here is a bit of a update. As the P4P scene isn’t as in your face as Phnom Penh thought I would post a few things from my notes.
The main tourist hang out is Pub Street. You will find a few FL here. Just keep looking and make some eye contact. One night I was just having a beer around midnight at a place next to the street. Four girls sat down at the next table and invited me to join them. Midnight is getting late on Pub Street so think they were about to call it a night and just got together for a beer. There is a place named The Temple Bar and Restaurant on Pub Street. Look for FL there starting fairly early in the evening until late. It stays open later than most places and has a tiny dance floor. Check around the back pool table. I pulled from here kind of late after making some eye contact with the girl earlier in the evening. You should be able to arrange LT for $30 or so.
Blue Wave is a short tuk-tuk ride away from Pub Street. It tries to be a hostess bar but the talent level is very bad. Only saw one cutie there in two nights. Nice ST rooms in a guest house very close. $20 total put on your bar tab. You might regret going here with the talent level.
Zone One is a restaurant and disco. It is a little out of the way but not too far by tuk-tuk. Most of the customers will be locals. They have several mamasans and fair selection of girls but stunners are rare. I did not pull from here as I was asked for $60 LT. But when I said no mamasan said “How much you give?”. You can deal here but I don’t know how much.
If you walk out of the Zone One parking lot and turn right in a couple of blocks you will find a Viet brothel. The entrance is down between two buildings and there will be a guy sitting out near the sidewalk inviting you inside. Some of my friends went inside, looked around and left. This isn’t my kind of scene. There were young Khmer guys hanging around the entrance acting like silly middle school boys and I doubt the girls have any choice about being in their situation (just my opinion). There is at least one more place across the street and maybe more on this street. You are out of the tourist area in these neighborhoods but I felt safe enough.Think some of these places have pink lights out by the sidwalk when it isn't high season.
Sok San is a disco and fishbowl and it located fairly close to Pub Street. Went in before the disco was going and a few feet past the disco is a BIG fishbowl with many girls. One of the guys running the place sat and asked our group if we wanted to pick. I asked the price and he said $60 ST <cough>. We got up and left. The disco gets going later and I though there would be FL action. But a mamasan was controlling the action and I didn’t even ask the price after the fishbowl incident. Sok San sort of tries and be a GoGo also. The have a long runway stage and a few girls come out and dance in bikinis, etc.
Martini Disco is not far from Pub Street. A previous report in this thread has a lot of info. They have a few girls and a mamasan. I didn’t try to pull from here. But my friends were quoted the previously mentioned $60 LT so you will have to work hard for a reasonable price.
If you take the road in front of Martini, not the road next to the river, for a short distance there will be a large building set back off the road a bit, on the right side, with a large parking lot. When you go inside you will find a very large room (maybe 80’ x 40’) with MANY girls lined up next to the walls. The place is brightly lit and it seems very awkward standing in the middle of the room in the bright light. We were quoted $60 LT and moved on. But I just didn't like the feel of the place and maybe didn't give it a fair shot. Think the name of this place is in this thread somewhere way back.
So these are the places I ventured. Someone can probably give better details on some of these places. I mostly compiled my list of places from this thread and with a little help from Doug.
I would not come to Siem Reap just for P4P. But if you are here doing the tourist thing there is some action. If you are just here for a short time I would probably try and pull from Pub Street when possible. But it can be an adventure to check out the other spots. You can get a tuk-tuk driver to haul you around to these places (and others) for about $2 an hour. But many of the drivers will get a kickback for taking you to certain places. Probably nothing wrong with checking out some of these places but also make sure you know where you want to go as they may not even suggest some of the other places.
RMW[/QUOTE]Of all the places in Siam Reap I liked Sok San Disco the most. It's the chase man. Sure you can get ST at the fishbowl but why can't you just wait for the evening to get started and go on the prowl. It will happen and the ladies don't look the the other places. I don't go to Cambodia to get Viet chicks. I can get them in VN so why look for them there. Besides the dark skin kind of turns me on a little. But the street action is there for ST but if you go looking you can take them home all night and do whatever. Inviting them for a beer at your hotel is a good start. But go eat first. The beer is in your room right? PP is just too fast and too risky for me. At night don't trust anyone in PP. But in SR you see a TukTuk wearing his vest you can trust him. He'll offer you half day service or full day service to dig up some work but no need. The temples are nice but too much walking makes for a tired guy trying to hang with the young pretty Cambodian ladies.
I will be visiting SR soon for the first time. From what I have seen in the photos here, it looks like it will be somewhat difficult to find women that I consider beautiful. Is there any sort of upscale resource in SR that I might investigate?
Thank you!
Frank,
SR, Cambodia is not exactly the place to look for upscale chicas, but the closest thing would be Pub street, except it's not that kind of a place. You'll see.
You may have more luck in HK instead.
i arrived in siem reap after two weeks in thailand, first impressions were how hot this place is. brutal, far worse than bangkok. stayed at the boret angkor, a great hotel that felt like the green zone after the heat and poverty of the town itself. as always, armed with the info from another forum forum, i had some idea of where to start, so made for martini's about 9 in the evening. place is filled with cambodian teens through twenty-somethings. i was the only foreignor visible, which is a bit disconcerting but i'm kind of used to it. at the door, no cover charge, but about 7 or 8 girls that are clearly unattached. hardly any english spoken, but the mamasan in her thirties as well as staff at the nightclub communicated that the girls were $40 lt. looks ranged from amazing to just pretty good. somehow my radar was up, and i just didn't feel comfortable taking one home. some of them could have been ****, and i didn't see a foolproof way to verify the girls were over 18. not sure why, nothing specific, just a little voice that said be careful, so i listened to the little voice and just hung out for a while inside and outside the club, then left alone.
next afternoon, after the temples and a shower, jumped into a tuk-tuk and said the universal pussy-hunting call to the driver, "boom-boom? " then commenced the mid-afternoon provider search. first stop, a barely-open ktv-type place, opening bid was $100 us for my choice of early-thirties hardened *****s. ummm, no thanks. after driving around for a while, my driver stopped to consult with some of his tuk-tuk driving friends. nothing like listening to a conversation in another language when you know you are the subject. was offered $50 for a girl, sight unseen. umm, no, this is cambodia, that's a fucking fortune, clearly. stopped at another place, girl was in her late twenties or early thirties, looked friendly and sexy, so the negotiations started. they wanted me to pay in advance and do the deed onsite. i insisted on paying the girl, after, and going to my hotel. after a few minutes of this nonsense, i just got back in the tuk-tuk and said, take me back. of course, girl climbed in, no money upfront. got back to hotel, gave driver $5 for shlepping me all around town, and got down to business. girl turned out to be vietnamese, very nice but not really gfe. tight boddy, natural breasts without sagging, long nipples, flat tummy (my favorite! i can get fat chicks any day of the week here in the states without paying). took a shower, she washed me thoroughly, i washed her, a bit of munching (tasted fine and clean), great sex doggy style (my personal favorite). she gave a decent massage after, without me asking, then a second shot in her mouth, then time to go. i gave her agreed sum ($40), both parties left smiling, and watched her leave from my hotel balcony. my preferences are becoming clear, there's no reason to rut in a grubby back room if you have a clean hotel with a/c. and i think the girl prefers off-premises too, really.
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gad - you'd think that there was a premium price that HAD to be paid in SR. You actually could find out ages by asking - mama won't lie to you - they might lie to HER, but she won't lie to you. You probably could have gotten it for $25, 30 at most
I suppose you might just say "They saw me coming", but you paid high barang price and then some. (of course, the driver got a cut as well, but that's to be expected)
Girls DO prefer "upscale" - to them almost ANYTHING is "upscale"
I will be going to SR sometime in Sept for temple visit and of cos the girls.
Some friends recommended The Villa Siem Reap which seems to be a good and clean place to stay apart from "Sex Tourist Not Welcome" sign on its website.
Any bro ever stayed there before ? any advise on this issue?
Thanks
Many of the hotels in Cambodia have that type of sign, even in the rules chart that hangs oon the door or near the bed.
Temple Bar. On the back, in between the pool tables and near the toilet and the actual bar, plenty of girls. Some very nice, very sexy, some old, some fat. There are usually ladyboys too. Usual price is 20usd longtime, no need to negitiate, unless you take a model-type of girl.
Songkra (?) disco. Very nice, very near to pub st. Great music and dancing place, disco music and sometimes Cambodian pop. Plenty of great girls. If you look for the nice girls (young, sexy and pro) go there. There is a constant show on the lap with sexily (un)dressed supermodel. Plenty of freelance also.
Sometimes we think we chose the girls, but I believe they chose us, smiling and looking, coming to speak, beginning the nice touches, and so on.
So, at temple bar, my first night in sr a girl chose me. Her name aween. (but I have noted her friends call her with another name). Nice face, medium body, big but saggy tits, nice small pussy and ass, long legs, high. Her specialty is the smile, she smiles open and big, explodes in a beautiful and positive smile as soon as she wakes up in the morning. Even if she wakes up with a foreigner dick up her ass. As always happen in s. E. Asia very very gfe. She is my gf for 4 days, and I am her boyfriend. We fuck in the room, and she brings me to her friends, house, market and all.
At the end we were fucking bareback, even the ass. (I know.)
The last 2 days she wants me to come and stay at her home (a room shared with another young shy small wg), cook for me, fuck me at her bed. These girls (some of them) dream of marrying, having a relation, taking care of their husbands. And sometimes they do it for 4-5days to us (some of us). In some way it is sad.
When I left we both are very sad and cry. Take care of them all guys, they deserve it!
I never discuss the prices. Thanks to this forum I always have an idea of the current prices, take the girl, and after the service (be it massage, be it lt, be it st, or else) I give her the average price. They actually accept because the price of the forum is the real actual current price.
In SR the prices are 15 usd for ST and 20-30 for LT depending on the girl'aspect. At least for temple bar girls
In winter the prices go a up.
It is better never ask for the price. You know it, and she knows it too.
Several guest-houses or hotels refused me to bring a girl-guest if she is Cambodian and not another tourist.
It is always better to ask before. Even openly. Even very openly more than once. "it is ok if you bring any girl in, when you want. Just be careful where you pick them from. " was the receptionist final argument at FRESH Guest House, ner the market, stone-throwing distance from pub st.
10 usd night (12 with a/c). Bathroom, fridge and tv. No window. Very basic, but clean and useful.
[QUOTE=Mikle]Several guest-houses or hotels refused me to bring a girl-guest if she is Cambodian and not another tourist.
QUOTE]
Mikle, do some research on the guesthouse/hotel here in the forum. I was at the Golden Orange and the frontdesk never said a word when I brought a guest. I think it was $20/night w/ a/c and wireless internet and in-room safe. What more can a man ask for? If I go back to SR again, I will stay there again.
sook-see-bye’s siem reap
[b]disclaimer[/b]
this report is based on personal experiences and is current as of august-september 2008. as things change very rapidly in cambodia, please don’t place too much reliance on any reports (inc this one) as details go if more than a couple of months old! it’s nowhere near comprehensive but is written to be as helpful as possible.
[b]orientation[/b]
it maybe helps to think of siem reap in terms of a large cross, with the river running north-south and the airport road / national road 6 running west-east. there’s a main road each side of the river, and another north-south road you need to know, called sivutha boulevard, in the western half. as the river bends south-south-west in the south of the city, sivutha boulevard joins it. in this lower triangle is the old market area, including pub street. this is a main mongering area, although monger spots are all over (see pdp section).
free maps (including a 3d map) are readily available. if you’re here to do the angkor wat complex (the best reason for coming), bear in mind it covers a massive area – maybe 20 times the area of the whole of siem reap. most of it is situated to the north of the city.
[b]accommodation and food[/b]
i used mandalay inn for a couple of nights and then couldn’t be bothered moving. there are reasonable guest houses closer to pub street that save you the 2 minute walk, but mandalay is just to the south west of this area and has much to recommend it. i’d advise just turning up as they have been known to pull ‘fast’ ones on internet bookers. a double room with fan only cost me $8. upgrading to air-conditioning doubles the price. bear in mind that cambodian a/c in budget places is half-hearted compared to what you might expect. but the staff are genuinely nice, speak a bit of english, and i found the restaurant very good for quality, hygiene and price (dishes $2-3) although service can be slow. contrary to usual custom, they like payment when you start using the room rather than when you leave, but will back down if you feel uncomfortable about this.
the ivy bar has accommodation smack in the middle of old market, so might be a good choice for serious mongering. dead fish tower is an interesting venue and has rooms – it’s on sivutha at the north end of old market but i wouldn’t recommend it personally (good for a visit and to feed the pet crocodiles but the food is poor value and i met people who had walked out after finding rat droppings in their cocktail).
the upmarket hotels (and shops and so on) are mostly concentrated in the northern area of town and also in the (less than convenient) airport road.
the golden orange hotel (run by doug) is in the middle price range. it has the advantage of an english speaking owner and the slight disadvantage of being in the north of the city and so a motorbike drive away from the action. i met him a few times – his moods seem to swing from very affable to down in the dumps (siem reap is maybe no longer the paradise it was).
some of the best old market restaurants are in a narrow street called the passage than runs parallel (south) of pub street. the meric, located in hotel de la paix on the way to zone one, is an incredibly impressive venue if you wanted to show off to a non-pdp classy date. but the food is hardly the ‘best in cambodia’ as proclaimed by guide books – just very good (and expensive).
[b]angkor wat complex[/b]
a three day ticket allows you to relax and take it in your stride. do at least one day starting half an hour before sunrise. it helps to know something about it - or instead of being one of the wonders of the world it is a pile of old rocks. “the king’s last song” by geoff ryman is an award-winning novel and also brings it to life over various time periods – recommended. other than that, get a basic idea of the mahabarata on which much of it is based, the difference between hinduism and buddhism (which it was kind of built to establish) and an idea of cambodian history so you realise the greatness of the legacy. the overpriced but very modern angkor national museum also has a large number of multimedia exhibits to get you up to speed. if your interest is minimal and you want a one day pass (longer queues btw when i was there), set off half an hour before dawn, maybe do sunrise at the main angkor wat, then the very different ta phrom (for that ‘indiana jones feel) or an elephant ride up bakheng.
you can hire english-speaking guides. i saw many zombie-faced tourists going, 'ahu, ahu, yes, ahu,' as the guide yaddered away. i thought of someone who had never seen a ball game going to a world cup and having a 'guide' give a running commentary on the rules, why they were running in a certain direction, the teams, the players, <yawn>. some things are worth going to once you have an idea of what they are . . .
[b]pdp overview[/b]
the pdp scene is alive but hardly worth making the trip for imo. you can pick up girls all over old market, but bear in mind you can stick out like a sore thumb as the place is overrun with middle-class preppie couples types having an ‘exotic’ holiday. this is a far cry from phnom penh’s walkabout where lecherous mongers are the norm and non-mongers look out of place.
some suggestions –
i) exchange eye-contact with girls in bars or in the street anywhere in the old market area (but don’t assume they are p4p – most aren’t!) eventually you can take them back to your place or go back to their’s. with some reservations, i liked the temple bar downstairs late at night (the pool table area) where you can have several chicks competing over you. the big pick-up joint though is soksen palace, just off a side road on the south west of old market.
ii) walk or take a moto to zone one and then ignore zone one and check out the illegal brothels on either side. some are brightly lit and obvious. some you just go down an alley and look for the action (girls making it obvious they are interested or sleazy young cambodian guys checking you out and letting you in). to get to the zone one area, walk north along sivutha from old market and turn left at the big hotel de la paix. take the second right and carry on a hundred yards or so. zone one is a big night club complex on the right (you’ll see lots of young trendies pulling up on motorbikes).
iii) take a moto (or walk) to dreamworld. this is a large-ish brothel located across the river a short distance from old market. a bit more organised and nicer than the zone one knock shops. cross the bridge near old market and bear left a few hundred yards (as you cross the river, ignore the right fork with martinis and the street to the left along the river, just go straight ahead left.)
iv) just ask your moto driver.
there’s many other places - even as far out as airport rd - but as they change so often it seems almost the wrong approach to try and list them. siem reap is small enough to learn everything in a week anyway!
drugs in cambodia can be a bit hit and miss depending mostly where you go. i’ve seen ‘cialis’ in the mini-supermarket at $20 for 4 x 20mg though.
[b]shopping[/b]
in markets, start at about one third or even a quarter of the asking price, or simply ask the staff at your guest house what the cambodian price is for an item you are going to buy. prices in central market are lower than the tourist-orientated old market. add a [i]little[/i] extra as you’re a tourist (adding a lot does not, imo, help anyone but it does stimulate greed.) if you want to give some money to a good cause and not a scam, please visit beatocello on a saturday evening - you’ll see signs on the way to angkor wat – this eccentric cello-playing doctor has raised money for five free hospitals and has saved on average the lives of about half a million kids a year. donations of blood are also accepted if you’re skint. [url]http://beatocello.com[/url])
other quick cambodia overviews: [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=791957&postcount=33[/url]
Hey guys,
There has to be another air carrier that flys to Siem Reap from HCMC than VN Air. Who are they and what is the cost. Got to go there again early October and want to fly on different air carrier so PM me or just post it and I'll check often before my flight in a couple of weeks
[QUOTE=Saltydog]Hey guys,
There has to be another air carrier that flys to Siem Reap from HCMC than VN Air. Who are they and what is the cost. Got to go there again early October and want to fly on different air carrier so PM me or just post it and I'll check often before my flight in a couple of weeks[/QUOTE]
Doubtful - nothing else officially listed - see flights in and out by destination [url]http://www.cambodia-airports.com/siemreap/en/info.asp[/url]
[QUOTE=Christopherd]Doubtful - nothing else officially listed - see flights in and out by destination [url]http://www.cambodia-airports.com/siemreap/en/info.asp[/url][/QUOTE]Guys don't check out PMT Air. There appears to be some kind of virus danger detected by my software.
OK, let me try again. Are there any Airlines flying out of HCMC to Siem Reap. There has to be more than only 1.
Don't forget guys, unless you have a good virus software program don't look up PMT Air.
Thanks Christopherd - this is the best report on Siem Reap I have seen in a long time. Good orientation guide and suggestions for Angkor Wat. I concur with many of the details as accurate in my experience there too.
On the PDP scene, a couple comments:
This summer I noticed that there are now girls hanging around in front of Temple Bar and they can be a bit aggressive - any single man walking by gets an offer... that was a little public for my taste, and surprising for Siem Reap.
Soksen is not only a pckup place (the disco) but also has its own brothel upstairs... just walk in past the disco on the ground floor and see the fishbowl to the right... select your girl, negotiate with mama or papasan and then they send you upstairs for the action. Not the cheapest, but maybe the easiest action in Siem Reap. Location is one street parallel to the little side street you take to the night market.
I did try Dreamworld - and I'm not sure of the names, but there are a couple of other brothels right along the same block or so. I was turned down at one (said none of the girls would do foreigners at the time I was there), but accepted at another... (the one that accepted me is right next door to a hotel, if that helps)...
I also tried one of the cheap brothels across the street (not exactly, but within a block or so) from Zone 1. A pretty good selection of girls for $10... not to everyone's taste, but interesting experience.
Great report! Thanks.
[QUOTE=Saltydog]Guys don't check out PMT Air. There appears to be some kind of virus danger detected by my software.
OK, let me try again. Are there any Airlines flying out of HCMC to Siem Reap. There has to be more than only 1.
Don't forget guys, unless you have a good virus software program don't look up PMT Air.[/QUOTE]Jetstar Asia I believe.
[QUOTE=Stew2]Thanks Christopherd - this is the best report on Siem Reap I have seen in a long time. Good orientation guide and suggestions for Angkor Wat. I concur with many of the details as accurate in my experience there too.
On the PDP scene, a couple comments:
This summer I noticed that there are now girls hanging around in front of Temple Bar and they can be a bit aggressive - any single man walking by gets an offer... that was a little public for my taste, and surprising for Siem Reap.
Great report! Thanks.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for your comments, Stew2. I agree they can be a bit pushy outside Temple. I personally found them a bit more discrete inside by the pool table. There's one young girl there every night who beats nearly all-comers at pool. She is very hot as well, so I watched her for both reasons! The tactic several girls used with me was to motion me outside in some way before striking a deal. I guess this is maybe because there are a lot of non-mongers frequenting the place. I knocked miss sh*t-hot back, as I was worried about whether she was of age. The girl (24yrs) I took back that night told me that miss s/h was in fact a year older than her. Duh!!! But better safe than sorry. If I'd stayed on in SR I would have tried to make good, but had already planned to move on.
I’ve just come out of the massage place and am feeling slightly heady and also not sure if I had made the right decision. But one thing my brain wasn’t confused about was still feeling horny.
And as I cross over and walk down the street, a leggy Battambang girl accosts me. She’s upfront about having no money but she looks hot. I don’t need much persuading, for better or worse. We grab a tuktuk and head to her place, a sh*thole she’s rented for her stay in SR. She’s half Vietnamese and half Khmer (good looks and attitude plus business cunning – you work out the proportions). She doesn’t really engage much sexually, which is a turn-off after the recent more heartfelt performance. As we leave, dusk is falling and there’s not that many tuktuks about and it’s starting to rain. I pack her off on the first moto that appears and continue walking. What did impress me was that she came back for me having found a tuktuk for me. If she could have been as sweet during sex she might have got more repeat business. But when she offered the same line a few days later I knocked her back.
[i]August 2008[/i]
As a good enough way to fill the day in-between usual tourist stuff, I’d taken two massages, one at Blue 7 and then a better one along the street. Not to suggest any establishment is superior – probably depends who you get. The whole massage routine, right down to the strokes used, seems fairly consistent. Not the best in the world IMO but cheap and available and pleasant. No hint of any ‘extras’ for a million miles.
Except then I’m sitting having some light lunch at an outside table from a bar next to a massage joint. I won’t say which one, not so much ‘cos I promised but ‘cos I don’t think it makes much difference. Old Market is Old Market. Anyway, a girl inside the bar sipping a coke exchanges a coy smile with me several times as she looks up from her drink. Couldn’t tell her if she was on her own or not but eventually get her to come over in a non-committal sort of way. She asks if I’m planning to have a massage. I say I’ve had many massages and ask why she’s asking and does she do massage. She says she might. So I say ‘might?’ or ‘yes’. All this is just by way of flirtatious patter. We’ve been parrying for about five or ten minutes and she says she can have a word with the massage joint next door as she works there sometimes. I go for it.
So upstairs, there’s three massage areas, separated by curtains that let the light through and don’t offer that much privacy. But the massage soon strays from the standard sports mauling. A hand lingering a bit longer here, fingertips going a bit further there, my own hand casually resting against a thigh is not removed. Half way through it gets erotic. She has a look at the door but isn’t able to lock it. Another masseur pops her head in shortly afterwards and my girl tries to make out everything is normal, quickly adjusting body positions. Eventually we have snatched sex with a bare minimum of actual undressing. She seems to me genuinely keen but also genuinely worried about getting caught. Her own juices were running pretty hot. At the end of the hour, I ask, “How much,” and get the usual, “Up to you.” I’m not sure if it was before or after this she asked, “So what are we going to do now?”
It was the perfect opening for a GFE experience. Just invite her back to the hotel. A passionate affair. She probably wouldn’t even ask for cash, at least that was one of the vibes genuinely possible. But I had lots of plans and they didn’t include being encumbered. I give her the standard price for the massage ($6) and an extra $20. She looked a bit taken aback and asked, “What’s this for??” I reply, “$6 for massage and $20 tip.” Possibly not what she wanted (she might have wanted more or else be annoyed at being treated like a wh*re and being paid anything when she was offering companionship).
In retrospect it was, for all its brevity, the most exciting f*ck I had in Siem Reap. I went back to the bar and massage joint a few days later but there was no sign of her. I couldn’t tell if they disapproved and had barred her (she was genuinely, I think, very paranoid about getting discovered) . . . or whether she had seen what happened next and was really pi**ed . . .
Because, needless to say, delightful though it was, it wasn’t really satisfying. Maybe I should have taken her back to the hotel there and then but I had burnt that bridge. So here’s part two . . .
[i]August 2008 - Old Market area near Pub Street[/i]
Hello all,
I posted this question in the PP forum, but wanted to see if anyone had any info for Siem Reap:
I've been searching old threads and can't seem to find any info on this. Interested in finding a massage parlor/fishbowl in Siem Reap. I heard of some hotels that used to have them, but i dont have any solid information.
Ideally a parlor that service BBBJ and FS.
I'm heading out there in several days.
Thanks in advance.
The Sok San is near Pub street, 50m down a side street off Sivatha Street, (near Dead Fish Tower), there is a big neon sign.
At the front was a large air con bar with hostesses, FL's and a couple of go.go dancers.
At the back was a fish bowl with 20+ girls, $50 for all in massage! Crap massage but good sh*g, I think it was CBJ.
Hope this helps
[QUOTE=Deepfreeze]The Sok San is near Pub street, 50m down a side street off Sivatha Street, (near Dead Fish Tower), there is a big neon sign.
At the front was a large air con bar with hostesses, FL's and a couple of go.go dancers.
At the back was a fish bowl with 20+ girls, $50 for all in massage! Crap massage but good sh*g, I think it was CBJ.
Hope this helps[/QUOTE]Try to negotiate that price lower. I got mine down to 40 there, and lower elsewhere. 25-35 range at other fishbowls in Siem Reap. Read a few posts back to #265 by Christopherd. He mentions Dreamworld, and in that neighborhood there are actually a couple others.
Does anybody know if this flight exists?
Siem Reap airlines shows it on their map but then when you look to book there's no flights.
[QUOTE=Berny X]Does anybody know if this flight exists?
Siem Reap airlines shows it on their map but then when you look to book there's no flights.[/QUOTE]
Hi Berny,
I agree with you in that it doesn't seem to exist. I was surprised that the Siem Reap Airways site provides a link to Bangkok Air website for booking and when you get there (the site is much more professional feeling) the only flight to/from Hong Kong is to Samui.
Sorry if you'd already found the connection but it surprised the ****out of me.
Hawk
You'll probably find it goes via Phnom Penh.
Hello Gents,
My first report in this forum comes from my experience in Siem Reap. I visited in early October of this year (2008). This is the first night. I'll report the second night in another post.
Hotel: Golden Orange (as posted on this forum, its guest friendly). Room was modest. Service poor by international standards, but par for the course for Siem Reap. Breakfast adequate, but didn't run late enough or start early enough.
Tuk Tuk services: guys who hang around the hotel will (naturally) try to cheat you by charging you more than the standard $1. Just hand them the dollar when u get somewhere (pub street, for instance) and walk away. I also had one guy take me to the temples; $15 for the first day (Angkor Wat, Angkor Thom, and Preh Kahn) and $25 for the second day (to some distant temples to the north... not really worth it).
The Action
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First night: 10pm at Sok San Disco. The female employees working the floor will go with you after work, just arrange a time. But few spoke English. I ended up arranging to meet a 30-something woman that was pimping Tiger beer (more on her later).
During the few hours before she got of work (which was around 1am) I decided to hop in a Tuk Tuk and ask the driver to take me to a local disco. I have no idea where he took me, other than the fact that I know it was some area to the south, then east, then north up some dirt road. It took about 10 mins to get there. On the way, he stopped at a wooden shack in the middle of nowhere. There were about 10 girls inside, many Viet-looking, all will sullen expressions. Nothing turned me on, so I asked him to just take me to the disco.
It was crap. Mostly guys with a few hookers hanging out by the door. The dance floor was a bit scary actually; it looked like the guys who were violently jumping around on the dance floor were ready to rumble. I walked right out and told the driver to take me to Temple Bar. I was worried that he would resist since I only stayed at the disco a few mins, but he didn't. Good man.
Temple was lame, mostly guys by the pool table. All the girls taken (or perhaps they didn't arrive yet?). This must have been about 11pm. So I went back to Sok San to chill and have a beer (draft Anchor for $1).
Later I took the Tiger beer woman back to Golden Orange. I'm not sure why I chose her... she was older than the rest, but had that look in her eye like she was going to suck my cock off. She was also adorned in gold jewelry, which I found really sexy on her cappuccino skin. She let me film video and take photos... I pumped her hard in several positions (condom, of course!); we did some mutual anal fingering, and I shot a wad all over her chest. Then I told her that was enough.
She asked for $40. I offered $20, but we settled on $30. I thought it was worth a little extra since she let me make a porn movie. I do love to have some video/photo memories of my exploits. I attached her photo (post ejaculation!)
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Guys,
I was really disappointed on this trip to the Sok San Disco. The place was full of lady boys and drag queens. Yes I mean the kink of drag queens you would see on Santa Monica Blvd. In Hollywood. Tall, big hands, and big feet hiding in some flip flops, ewwww.terrible and they scared me off even though I did see some rough looking FL working there trying their hardest to get customers. I left and went to Pub street and hung around Tower Restaurant and had some luck there instead and took the girl to me hotel for 3 days and when I left she started talking about a visa (hehehe). I said I will keep in touch and call her when I get back to Cali. I hope she don't wait too long. Nice girl she took care of me when I got bad fever, damn mosquitoes. Many people there worried the country will break out in war with Thailand over the temples found around the Thailand/Cambodia border, many soldiers killed but not reported on local news. Place was a little scary on this trip but will not stop me from going again next Feburary when the rain stops and mosquitoes are not in such large numbers.
Have fun all.
[QUOTE=NanaHawk]Hi Berny,
I agree with you in that it doesn't seem to exist. I was surprised that the Siem Reap Airways site provides a link to Bangkok Air website for booking and when you get there (the site is much more professional feeling) the only flight to/from Hong Kong is to Samui.
Sorry if you'd already found the connection but it surprised the ****out of me.
Hawk[/QUOTE]Hawk,
Dragon Air flies from Phnom Penh to HK from Siem Riep.
you can get a flight to Bangkok, Singgapore or KL to connect to HK.
Last time I was there I just take the bus to Popiet and then train to BKK and fly back to HK.
Fast eddie 48
Up to about 50 bucks a night, would like something near the action and with a pool. I guess also would prefer it had no joiner or extra fee.
Seen alot of stuff all over the internet, what times to go, guides, etc. Anybody here have any or know of a private guide to contact? Seen alot that a guide (actually can be with a group) is the way to go.
guides just lead you by the hand - you read a good BOOK and hire a driver to take you around and it's just as good. Understand that there are a group of temples/ things to do including angkor wat itself, bayon, elephant terrace,m the one with all the big trees, sunset hill and that's pretty much all of it unless one happens to be an archaeologist and then one wouldn't be here in a sex site. :)
but then again, I always study where I'm going to be a TOURIST (besides, the driver will know where the girls are that charge less than an arm and a leg - guide doesn't care less unless he gets a CUT)
[QUOTE=Berny X]Seen alot of stuff all over the internet, what times to go, guides, etc. Anybody here have any or know of a private guide to contact? Seen alot that a guide (actually can be with a group) is the way to go.[/QUOTE]
Well archaeologists like sex too . . . But that aside, to get back to Berny's question . . .
Almost any hotel will supply you with a moto or tuk-tuk + guide. But the thing is they will yadder away and, even with the sensitive ones, you get into information overload very early on. My example was, imagine going to a world cup match with a guide who explained why some people were trying to get a ball in one direction, why others ran after it, why there was a big following for certain players, how the teams differed and so on. If you'd never been to a ball game before, you can't take it in much less experience the emotion of it.
Siem Reap is a nicer place to go than PP as a regular tourist, but the high point is definitely the Angkor Wat complex (which is many times bigger than Siem Reap itself). It is the biggest religious site in the world and central to Cambodian culture.
Here's my tips:
1) Get a three day pass. Even if you take the middle day off. You're not under time pressure and can enjoy exploring. The queue, when I went, is much less for the 3-day than the one day.
2) Unless you want everything served up with the hordes, do the main parts in the opposite direction to the tours - that way you can explore Ta Phrom for instance (the overgrown-with-trees temple used in Lara Croft) with no-one else around. Do it after the main Angkor Wat instead of going on to Bakheng.
3) It is *essential* to get to the main temple before sunrise if you want to make the best of it. This is when you get the photos that all your friends will be dumbstruck over. Set off from Siem Reap about half an hour before sunrise, get your pass, and take up your position outside the pond. Take extra batteries/film/memory cards.
4)Study a map and some sort of guidebook before you go, just so you have an idea of the layout and the enormity of the area. That way you can take charge and tell your driver where you want to go next. (He will deposit you outside each one and wait for you, unless you are paying him as a guide as well.) You can download maps and guides or any of the LonelyPlanet type guides have more or less the same info.
5)You might want to take a hat or something to cover your head unless you plan to take a long break at lunchtime (your driver or guide will expect a break btw). It gets exceedingly hot. Also there are no decent restaurants in the complex so you have to buy mostly snack foods or take your own.
6)A tuk-tuk can be more relaxing than a moto as you can sit back and look at your maps or whatever between stops. I swapped around.
Now to get the best experience, and I've mentioned this several times on the board, you need to emotionally connect. You won't do it with a guide or guide book. The outstanding, award-winning novel The King's Last Song is the reading to have before you go or enjoy while you're there IMO. It will take you from the building of Angkor Wat, the religious, political and cultural upheavals, the importance of Jayavarman VII, and then right up to date with the perspective of modern Cambodians. But above that it is a superb and gripping novel. It makes it easy to imagine the temples in use, specific gates, the significant shift to Buddhism from Hinduism, and brings it all alive in a gut-wrenching tale.
(On another post I've given the contact details for a reliable ex-army moto-driver, but you'll know after the first day if you have a good one or a lazy sh*te. Test their English a bit before you hire them and try to avoid being drawn in to promises beyond one day. The 'day's hire' ends at sunset usually so you have to negotiate separately for about town for pdp, which I found easier to do ad hoc as most pdp is walking distance anyway.)
If after this you still prefer to get a guide, you can at least get an authorised one rather than an off-duty policeman or off-school kid. Check at the museum. (The museum also gives quite a good - if expensive - multimedia intro if you don't read the Geoff Rymans book mentioned above.)
[QUOTE=Christopherd]Well archaeologists like sex too . . . But that aside, to get back to Berny's question . . .
Almost any hotel will supply you with a moto or tuk-tuk + guide. But the thing is they will yadder away and, even with the sensitive ones, you get into information overload very early on. My example was, imagine going to a world cup match with a guide who explained why some people were trying to get a ball in one direction, why others ran after it, why there was a big following for certain players, how the teams differed and so on. If you'd never been to a ball game before, you can't take it in much less experience the emotion of it.
Siem Reap is a nicer place to go than PP as a regular tourist, but the high point is definitely the Angkor Wat complex (which is many times bigger than Siem Reap itself). It is the biggest religious site in the world and central to Cambodian culture.
Here's my tips:
1) Get a three day pass. Even if you take the middle day off. You're not under time pressure and can enjoy exploring. The queue, when I went, is much less for the 3-day than the one day.
2) Unless you want everything served up with the hordes, do the main parts in the opposite direction to the tours - that way you can explore Ta Phrom for instance (the overgrown-with-trees temple used in Lara Croft) with no-one else around. Do it after the main Angkor Wat instead of going on to Bakheng.
3) It is *essential* to get to the main temple before sunrise if you want to make the best of it. This is when you get the photos that all your friends will be dumbstruck over. Set off from Siem Reap about half an hour before sunrise, get your pass, and take up your position outside the pond. Take extra batteries/film/memory cards.
4) Study a map and some sort of guidebook before you go, just so you have an idea of the layout and the enormity of the area. That way you can take charge and tell your driver where you want to go next. (He will deposit you outside each one and wait for you, unless you are paying him as a guide as well.) You can download maps and guides or any of the LonelyPlanet type guides have more or less the same info.
5) You might want to take a hat or something to cover your head unless you plan to take a long break at lunchtime (your driver or guide will expect a break btw). It gets exceedingly hot. Also there are no decent restaurants in the complex so you have to buy mostly snack foods or take your own.
6) A tuk-tuk can be more relaxing than a moto as you can sit back and look at your maps or whatever between stops. I swapped around.
Now to get the best experience, and I've mentioned this several times on the board, you need to emotionally connect. You won't do it with a guide or guide book. The outstanding, award-winning novel The King's Last Song is the reading to have before you go or enjoy while you're there IMO. It will take you from the building of Angkor Wat, the religious, political and cultural upheavals, the importance of Jayavarman VII, and then right up to date with the perspective of modern Cambodians. But above that it is a superb and gripping novel. It makes it easy to imagine the temples in use, specific gates, the significant shift to Buddhism from Hinduism, and brings it all alive in a gut-wrenching tale.
(On another post I've given the contact details for a reliable ex-army moto-driver, but you'll know after the first day if you have a good one or a lazy sh*te. Test their English a bit before you hire them and try to avoid being drawn in to promises beyond one day. The 'day's hire' ends at sunset usually so you have to negotiate separately for about town for pdp, which I found easier to do ad hoc as most pdp is walking distance anyway.)
If after this you still prefer to get a guide, you can at least get an authorised one rather than an off-duty policeman or off-school kid. Check at the museum. (The museum also gives quite a good - if expensive - multimedia intro if you don't read the Geoff Rymans book mentioned above.)[/QUOTE]Thanks for the advice, just a couple of questions.
1) Do you have to pay the admission price for the guide?
2) I'm not opposed to a small tour group in order to network with others.
3) How bout a mid range hotel in the middle of things or pretty close to the action
(On another post I've given the contact details for a reliable ex-army moto-driver, but you'll know after the first day if you have a good one or a lazy sh*te. Test their English a bit before you hire them and try to avoid being drawn in to promises beyond one day. The 'day's hire' ends at sunset usually so you have to negotiate separately for about town for pdp, which I found easier to do ad hoc as most pdp is walking distance anyway.)
Where can I find these contact details?
Thanks
[QUOTE=Berny X](On another post I've given the contact details for a reliable ex-army moto-driver, but you'll know after the first day if you have a good one or a lazy sh*te. Test their English a bit before you hire them and try to avoid being drawn in to promises beyond one day. The 'day's hire' ends at sunset usually so you have to negotiate separately for about town for pdp, which I found easier to do ad hoc as most pdp is walking distance anyway.)
Where can I find these contact details?
Thanks[/QUOTE]
click on my name then go to 'other posts by this user' - can't remember which section I put them in
[QUOTE=Christopherd]click on my name then go to 'other posts by this user' - can't remember which section I put them in[/QUOTE]Any idea around what date you posted it?
[QUOTE=Berny X]Thanks for the advice, just a couple of questions.
1) Do you have to pay the admission price for the guide?
2) I'm not opposed to a small tour group in order to network with others.
3) How bout a mid range hotel in the middle of things or pretty close to the action[/QUOTE]
There's not really a hotel at all in the middle of things as far as the temples go. The Angkor wat complex streches a long way north of Siem Reap town and also includes some outlying temples in other directions. It's not feasible to just stroll round - you need transport.
Technically closest are the hotels in the north - there's a good one mentioned on the board - but if you want to be near to the pdp action you want to be in Old Town - Mandalay etc (see my post on hotels somewhere or other) in the south. But it is not a big deal. Siem Reap is very small. Whatever hotel you get you will need to get up before sunrise to make the journey to Angkor Wat. There are no hotels situated in the precincts of Angkor Wat (think national reserve area - building is forbidden). There are some hotels just outside of town and a little nearer but not much point in staying there really - it's only moments difference on a motorbike, you still need transport and why be stuck in the middle of nowhere.
There are lots of different deals and an official guide maybe gets a different rate but if you just take someone who offers to guide you they will need a pass same as anyone else. Your moto driver will take you through the ticketing office on the road out and on into the grounds but not go into the temples themselves.
[QUOTE=Christopherd]There's not really a hotel at all in the middle of things as far as the temples go. The Angkor wat complex streches a long way north of Siem Reap town and also includes some outlying temples in other directions. It's not feasible to just stroll round - you need transport.
Technically closest are the hotels in the north - there's a good one mentioned on the board - but if you want to be near to the pdp action you want to be in Old Town - Mandalay etc (see my post on hotels somewhere or other) in the south. But it is not a big deal. Siem Reap is very small. Whatever hotel you get you will need to get up before sunrise to make the journey to Angkor Wat. There are no hotels situated in the precincts of Angkor Wat (think national reserve area - building is forbidden). There are some hotels just outside of town and a little nearer but not much point in staying there really - it's only moments difference on a motorbike, you still need transport and why be stuck in the middle of nowhere.
There are lots of different deals and an official guide maybe gets a different rate but if you just take someone who offers to guide you they will need a pass same as anyone else. Your moto driver will take you through the ticketing office on the road out and on into the grounds but not go into the temples themselves.[/QUOTE]Yeah I wanted to be near wherever the bars are so I can walk to them at night, or a short tuk tuk ride.
[QUOTE=Berny X]Thanks for the advice, just a couple of questions.
1) Do you have to pay the admission price for the guide?
2) I'm not opposed to a small tour group in order to network with others.
3) How bout a mid range hotel in the middle of things or pretty close to the action[/QUOTE]
1) No, all guides going into Angkor provide their own methods of entry so again, do not have to pay them except for their negotiated price for their time showing you around the temples.
2) small group tours could sometimes be arrange with their visitor center or some hotels, never tried it but heard others have done this.
3)Siem reap is the heart of all "action" and they have anything from cheap (under $10/nite) to 5star luxury hotels for over $300/nite and everything in between. Unless its high season, no need to book ahead, just drop into any place and room are generally available (its how I did it twice in the past). Another reason I don't book ahead is because I like to see and smell the place before I put down any payment.
PT
Khmers don't pay to go to Angkhor (or at least that's what my driver said 4 years ago)
If any of you guys go there and up late beware of a guy named Ross. He laughts alot and smokes from a pipe. The guy party's too much. I tried hanging with him and hit every disco in Siem Reap. Finally after sampling the best of Cambodia I realized it was 7:30 am. We left the hotel at about 10 pm. Good guy but likes others to pay for his gin and tonic. Never did get any pussy that nice because because I don't think he likes pussy! Don 't like men but never showed any interest other than partying. Good night of drinking and s***ing out the best Cambodia (hehehe).
3 days of temples is too much if you ask me. 2 days is better and hang around Pub Street and have some beers.
For you guys that like to wear shorts, beware of the mosquitoes Got fever for 2 days I think because of them and if it wasn't for the woman I met I would have never made it back to VN. Woke up in the middle of night wanting more but instead shouted to me I was on fire. Had wet towels on me all night. Sweet woman to take care of me. A true GFE experience. So beware. Don't wear shorts.
[QUOTE=Dinghy]Khmers don't pay to go to Angkhor (or at least that's what my driver said 4 years ago)[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I think you're maybe right.
On hotels, Mandalay is a good option alongside the pdp area - cheap, good hygeinic food at $2, girl friendly of course, and some English spoken among good staff. Only downsiide was I heard of people being overcharged if they booked ahead, which is unnecessary, as someone's pointed out. If you feel uneasy about that, book for one night and insist on the room/charge you want and see advertised without being 'sold up'. There are one or two hotels more in teh 'heart' of it but you might also get noise (think I report on hotels if anyone wants to check).
[QUOTE=Christopherd]Yeah, I think you're maybe right.
On hotels, Mandalay is a good option alongside the pdp area - cheap, good hygeinic food at $2, girl friendly of course, and some English spoken among good staff. Only downsiide was I heard of people being overcharged if they booked ahead, which is unnecessary, as someone's pointed out. If you feel uneasy about that, book for one night and insist on the room/charge you want and see advertised without being 'sold up'. There are one or two hotels more in teh 'heart' of it but you might also get noise (think I report on hotels if anyone wants to check).[/QUOTE]
I've also been suggest, these
Angkor Holiday, radiu angkor star, steungsiemreap. Would you know of their girl friendliness?
[QUOTE=Saltydog]If any of you guys go there and up late beware of a guy named Ross. He laughts alot and smokes from a pipe. The guy party's too much. I tried hanging with him and hit every disco in Siem Reap. Finally after sampling the best of Cambodia I realized it was 7:30 am. We left the hotel at about 10 pm. Good guy but likes others to pay for his gin and tonic. Never did get any pussy that nice because because I don't think he likes pussy! Don 't like men but never showed any interest other than partying. Good night of drinking and s***ing out the best Cambodia (hehehe).
3 days of temples is too much if you ask me. 2 days is better and hang around Pub Street and have some beers.
For you guys that like to wear shorts, beware of the mosquitoes Got fever for 2 days I think because of them and if it wasn't for the woman I met I would have never made it back to VN. Woke up in the middle of night wanting more but instead shouted to me I was on fire. Had wet towels on me all night. Sweet woman to take care of me. A true GFE experience. So beware. Don't wear shorts.[/QUOTE]
Mosquito repelant usually works well
[QUOTE=Saltydog]If any of you guys go there and up late beware of a guy named Ross. He laughts alot and smokes from a pipe. The guy party's too much. I tried hanging with him and hit every disco in Siem Reap. Finally after sampling the best of Cambodia I realized it was 7:30 am. We left the hotel at about 10 pm. Good guy but likes others to pay for his gin and tonic. Never did get any pussy that nice because because I don't think he likes pussy! Don 't like men but never showed any interest other than partying. Good night of drinking and s***ing out the best Cambodia (hehehe).
3 days of temples is too much if you ask me. 2 days is better and hang around Pub Street and have some beers.
For you guys that like to wear shorts, beware of the mosquitoes Got fever for 2 days I think because of them and if it wasn't for the woman I met I would have never made it back to VN. Woke up in the middle of night wanting more but instead shouted to me I was on fire. Had wet towels on me all night. Sweet woman to take care of me. A true GFE experience. So beware. Don't wear shorts.[/QUOTE]
Do they require long pants at some of Angkor wat? I remember some of the temples in Thailand you had to have your legs covered
[QUOTE=Berny X]Do they require long pants at some of Angkor wat? I remember some of the temples in Thailand you had to have your legs covered[/QUOTE]
They don't enforce it but short pants are very bad manners.* Women are among the worst offenders - bare shoulders are also considered unacceptable. And while 2 days of temples might be enough, a 2-day pass isn't an option. Unless you planning on returning just for the pdp (and why bother when PP is much better for that) then Angkor Wat is a genuinely once-in-a-lifetime experience so you might as well make the most of it, especially experiencing the huge variation.
As with Thailand, usual etiquette only even more prissy if anything. Things like pointing your feet at a Buddha statue might be bad manners in Thailand whereas in Cambodia these things are often felt personally - even if they don't say anything. There is a strong emotional attachment to (their variation of) Buddhism - they have s.f.a. else, many of them. Don't spit on their dreams . . . It's bad enough being a voyeur to their misery and the least we can try to do IMO is give them some human respect - and Buddha they hold dear. It's linked up with this idea of a legacy to the people that Jayavarman and the other kings of that time left them in the form of these temples.
As someone else pointed out, the museum is quite a good intro. But stuff is always more interesting once you've dipped your toes, so fitting in the museum in-between two days of field trips to the temples would probably work quite well.
*[i] apart from anything else, lightweight cover-up clothing gives you some protection from the sun[/i]
[QUOTE=Christopherd]They don't enforce it but short pants are very bad manners.* Women are among the worst offenders - bare shoulders are also considered unacceptable. And while 2 days of temples might be enough, a 2-day pass isn't an option. Unless you planning on returning just for the pdp (and why bother when PP is much better for that) then Angkor Wat is a genuinely once-in-a-lifetime experience so you might as well make the most of it, especially experiencing the huge variation.
As with Thailand, usual etiquette only even more prissy if anything. Things like pointing your feet at a Buddha statue might be bad manners in Thailand whereas in Cambodia these things are often felt personally - even if they don't say anything. There is a strong emotional attachment to (their variation of) Buddhism - they have s.f.a. else, many of them. Don't spit on their dreams . . .
As someone else pointed out, the museum is quite a good intro. But stuff is always more interesting once you've dipped your toes, so fitting in the museum in-between two days of field trips to the temples would probably work quite well.
*[i] apart from anything else, lightweight cover-up clothing gives you some protection from the sun[/i][/QUOTE]
I am going to PP first. BTW what is PDP? not on the abbreviation list
[QUOTE=Berny X]I am going to PP first. BTW what is PDP? not on the abbreviation list[/QUOTE]
Sorry - paid for pussy - I should have used p4p perhaps
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Temple Bar on Pub Street – Like somebody said, this place is filled with tourist, and the place was packed with them. But they’re all in the front and I just walked past them to the back, where the pool tables are, and sure enough the girls were there. I was there around 10 PM and there were about 15 girls, playing pool, with guys and some hanging out. What was nice was they were all dressed nice and most were wearing short-shorts or miniskirts.
I sat at the bar and ordered a Coke, $1.00, looked around, made eye contact with a cutie and she came over. We talked, she was touching me all over, and soon she offered to come to my hotel, I asked how much, boom-boom and yum-yum for $50 ST and $60 LT, told her I only wanted ST but that was too much, she dropped to $40 but her voice and attitude seemed to change like she wasn’t happy, so I no thanks and she left. I finished my Coke and left.
Sok Sen Palace – This place is fun to hang out but the music was too loud for me. There are several stages with go-go dancers and a couple of them were really HOT, both in their looks and dirty dancing. I was here around 11 PM and there were maybe 10 to 20 girls, but it’s hard to tell because there was a steady flow of them coming and going through the front door.
I was shown a table against the wall across from the main stage and ordered my Coke, $2.00, to checked things out. They have a lot of workers here in different outfits, I saw a couple of them sitting with customers, one wearing a vest/skirt and another wearing a black jacket/skirt, but neither went with a guy and went back to work so I don’t know if they are available. One of the black jacket girls came over and asked if I wanted a girl, I told her maybe later because I wanted to look around first, she said just let her know. A girl that kept walking by my table finally stopped and joined me. She was right down to business, buy me a drink and then want to go to the room, before I answered she took my hand and led me across the room, into the back and up to a counter, the guy says $50 ST. Nothing had been said about money and I told the guy/girl that was too much and turned to leave. She came after me and in the hallway tried to talk me into it but didn’t lower her price, I told her no thanks and continued on my way to the exit.
I saw the fishbowl back there too. It was big and bright and could hold maybe 40/50 girls but there were only about 6 in there when I walked by.
After that I called it a night.
Mike
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Blue Wave – I’ve read two things about the Blue Wave, you’re going to get laid here for cheap and the girls are not that good looking. I didn’t get a chance to look at the talent because as soon as I walked in the door I was grabbed by a girl wearing a short fluffy white dress, she was young, cute and sexy. I sat at one of the high tables, she joined me and I ordered a Coke, $2.00, then I bought her a Coke, $3.00.
Her name was Lisa, 20 years old, from Phnom Penh, some English, and she was very friendly, DFK’ing, hugging, kissing my neck and hands everywhere. I ran my hand up her leg and discovered no under ware and she was shaved. We move to one of the booths and continue exploring each other’s body, I’m fingering her and she’s up my shorts jacking me. I ask how much, she calls the mamas an over, 1 hour $20.00 and away we go to one of the room there.
In the room we undress, she takes me to the shower, open a new bar of soap, washes me up good and sends me out, I see her squat and wash herself, I dry off, she comes out, dries off and then we get on the bed with her on top on me. I suck her tits, move her up so she is sitting on my face, DATY until she cums. So-so BBBJ, she get on top, squat/kneeling/ laying, she rolls us over, her legs are down, then bent, then up to her chest, I give it to her for a long time and she loved it, I came, we rested, we cleaned up in the shower, we get dressed and return to the bar and sit at a booth and some more kissing.
I tell her I have to go, how much, a guy comes over and tells me $25.00, I give him $30.00 and tell them the change is for Lisa, she’s happy and so am I.
So yes you can get laid here, easy, fun, fast, cheap and there’s at least one cutie here.
Martini’s Disco – I went by here on my way back to the hotel and it was closed. I don’t know if it’s closed for good so a local may have to answer that. I’ll go by again and see if it’s open on Friday nights.
Mike
[QUOTE=ReallyaNiceGuy]Blue Wave – I’ve read two things about the Blue Wave, you’re going to get laid here for cheap and the girls are not that good looking. I didn’t get a chance to look at the talent because as soon as I walked in the door I was grabbed by a girl wearing a short fluffy white dress, she was young, cute and sexy. I sat at one of the high tables, she joined me and I ordered a Coke, $2.00, then I bought her a Coke, $3.00.[/quote]Hello,
I am in Siem Reap now, might try the Blue Wave tonight, thanks for this report! Fancy a beer tomorrow?
[QUOTE=Zaxxy]Hello,
I am in Siem Reap now, might try the Blue Wave tonight, thanks for this report! Fancy a beer tomorrow?[/QUOTE]I snogged one of the Soksan mamasans (the cutest) for long time then realized it was so late and I was so drunk, and my tour to temples start so early tomorrow morning, so left before any real action, but had a great time and it costed me 5 dollars! She offered me any type of sex I wanted for 30$. I think tonight I will go again to finish my duty. Many young and pretty girls around but I had the impression they don't speak any english (however they are ready to go).
Still up for a beer or few more Saturday night.
Zaxxy
[QUOTE=ReallyaNiceGuy].
Martini’s Disco – I went by here on my way back to the hotel and it was closed. I don’t know if it’s closed for good so a local may have to answer that. I’ll go by again and see if it’s open on Friday nights.
Mike[/QUOTE]Martini's disco is closed undefinitely for lack of customers (this the info I got from locals). A new one opend called Pyramid, outside town, but not sure how it is.
[QUOTE=Zaxxy]Martini's disco is closed undefinitely for lack of customers (this the info I got from locals). A new one opend called Pyramid, outside town, but not sure how it is.[/QUOTE]
Lack of customers???--strange ,as not even 9months ago this place was packed wall to wall and as the lighting sucked in this place, I had to bump into half the population of Cambo just to get to the other side of the room.
I suspect this is not the full story as to the closing.
PT
[QUOTE=Phantomtiger2]Lack of customers???--strange ,as not even 9months ago this place was packed wall to wall and as the lighting sucked in this place, I had to bump into half the population of Cambo just to get to the other side of the room.
I suspect this is not the full story as to the closing.
PT[/QUOTE]Mafia here is rampant so everything possible. Anyway I went to Pyramid tonight and it was nothing special but a brand new club (quite far from town) with laser effects and terrible Cambodian hip hop. Maybe could be better if you stay longer but I had no patience and moved on to a viet brothel near zone one, where it was smelly, dark and hot but my girl did all what I wanted. After, went back to socksan to look for my sexy mamasan (from the night before) but the place was dead, so had last drink (negroni) and went back to pub street where I met a girl I was sexy dancing with at the Pyramid; nothing special but I needed some company, so she she's here right now, sleeping after a nice boom boom. I think it will cost me about 15$.
Tomorrow night will report if anything new happens in my last asian night.
Tomorrow night will report if anything new happens in my last asian night.[/QUOTE]Went to Blue Wave tonight, and as someone else reported here, you can have good fun, beer in front and hands exploring the 2/3 girls sitting around you and giving you all sorts of massage. Had few beers there then I choose one girl, quite cute but not slim but she spoke good english and I didn't want to eat alone again. So took her out (40$, maybe too much but didn't care to bargain on my last night) to a restaurant; she didn't eat but gave me a 'no hands' (should report sometimes on this Bangkok restaurant I went with my friend Cippa. Great fun! ) experience. Great service also afterwards in my bed, only problem, the sleazy night guy working at reception turned up to my room after ten minutes and asked 20$ for the girl. Gave him a very bad look and 10$ (again didn't want troubles on my last night) and that's it. My flight is at 8am, now is 1:30am and am very tempted to go back to Temple bar where I saw few cuties earlier.
[QUOTE=Zaxxy]only problem, the sleazy night guy working at reception turned up to my room after ten minutes and asked 20$ for the girl.[/QUOTE]Which hotel? Sounds like one to avoid.
Just now getting around to posting this.
Zone One Brothels – I wanted to check these out so I arranged with my motto guy to take me. I’d told him I knew where I wanted to go and just wanted a ride and maybe some negotiating help. We went to a couple but nothing moved me. Yes there were some cute ones but none were sexy and for the most part they seemed so disinterested.
My motto said he know of a couple more in the area, they were on side streets around Zone One, so we went to check them out. The first one we just stopped outside and looked, my guy said it wasn’t a good place so we went to the next one.
When we got to the next place he turned in the driveway, turned off his light, and drove to the back. The door was open but the lights were dim as we pulled up but when we stopped a bunch of local men came out and the lights were turned up and I could see about 10 girls sitting inside, they were dressed sexy, young and looked nice. The attitude of the girls here was much better, they were smiling and happy like they were glad to see me. They invited me in and gave me a chair right in from of them then they started trying to get me to pick them. I was attracted to a couple of them and asked the mamasan how much, she told me massage and boom-boom for one hour $30.00, I told her that was too much and she didn’t budge so I got up to leave but was grabbed by a couple of the girls pulling me back. I asked the mamasan again and still she didn’t change the price so I went out and got on the motto.
I thought I’d give it one more try and explained to my motto that I would pay $25.00 and if the service was good I would give the girl $5.00 tip but I wanted kissing and yum-yum too and asked him to see if he could arrange that. He called out my first choice, told her my offer but she said no yum-yum, called out the second girl and we got the same reply so we left. At this point I was ready for some action and told him to take me to Blue Wave.
Blue Wave – When I walked in at about 9:30 PM there were no customers in the place and every girl came to greet me, about 12 of them. It was kind of dark so I couldn’t see all of them good but they were all dressed sexy and I would guess they ranged between 25 to 35 years old and overall from 4 to 7 but they all had great little bodies and were quite friendly. But Lisa was the best looking girl there and soon we were in a booth kissing and feeling each other up. I ordered us a Coke and it just got hotter and hotter for maybe another 20 minutes until we went to the room. It was another great session with Lisa.
As we were getting dressed Lisa, in her limited English, said she wanted my number, I told her I didn’t have a cell number and asked her way, she said she wanted to come to my hotel tomorrow. I gave her a business card for my hotel and my room number, we arranged for her to come around 7 PM.
I wonder if she’ll show up.
Brothels – Across the “Old Market Bridge” – After I left Blue Wave I thought I’d take a nice walk, and recharge just in case, and went to check things out. I’d read that there were several places along this road but didn’t see any no-name places.
Doremi Karaoke – When I looked down the driveway I could see the big window, the curtain was closed but could still see that there were girls sitting there, so I walked into the parking lot. A guy asked if I wanted massage and boom-boom, I asked how much, he said one hour $50.00, I told him that was too much and he just let me walk away. He never even opened the curtain so I could see the talent he had.
Dream World – This place is as has been described, a huge well lit room with lots of girls, I would guess 40 to 50, sitting all the way around the outside and you just walk around. Even though it was what I was expecting I was still taken back and it took me a minute to compose myself. I start to walk around and the first few were lifeless but then came to a group that was very friendly, they made a space between them and motioned for me to sit down, so I did and they were all over me. This was a nice group, 6 or 7, of girls, young, cute, dressed nice and sexy and I’d guess between 18 to 25, 6 to 8’s. I would have taken anyone of them. I asked how much and was told $40 ST but the girl that told me that was soon yelled at by the other girls and they called the mamasan over, She told me $50 ST, I choked and got up and left. Nothing was said or done to stop me. Oh well.
Temple Club – I stopped in just to rest my tired feet and have a Coke. I met a nice girl in a short skirt named Anna, a little over weight but clean cut and cute. We talked and she offered to come to my hotel for massage and boom-boom for $40 but while she was nice she didn’t do anything for me so I declined saying I was too tired. She said she would be there again tomorrow night and I told her maybe I’d be back. We did have a nice conversation and she was kind of funny.
The walk back to my hotel – After being accosted by several TV/TG’s I made it down the road a bit and past them, stopped at a little market, i.e. 7-11, glass front, bright lights and open late, then at the corner I was approached by a lady, maybe around 35, with an offer of massage, boom-boom and to spend the night for 20 bucks. Interesting, I stopped to talk to her about her offer and saw that she was not bad looking, very short and a very little body. She said I could come to her room if I wanted, I declined and she dropped her price to 15, I told her thanks but I was too tired tonight, she was holding of my hand and wouldn’t let me go. Next she offered yum-yum right there, pointing to one of the empty street booths, for $10, I asked if she would make me cum and she said she would, what the hell and we go to the booth.
It wasn’t great but not bad either and she got the job done, I came in her mouth, she sucked until I was limp then she spit it out. I was happy, gave her the 10 and was on my way. She asked me to come back tomorrow night too.
Mike
I'm in Pakse, Laos now. Don't bother coming here.
Last report for Siem Reap
Well Lisa didn’t show up tonight as she promised she would. Not really surprised but don’t understand why, I’d already seen her twice, treated her nice and tipped her too, now she has a chance to get the same money and keep it all to herself.
Blue Wave – I thought I’d get even with Lisa for not showing up by going here and taking another girl. When I walked in she came up to me to explain what happened, I listened, thanked her, told her maybe some other time, walked away and sat down alone. She followed but I told her not tonight and asked her to leave, she did and went to join some of the other girls. I think when the other girls saw me send Lisa away they know I was free and several came over within a few minutes. I picked one, never did understand her name, same routine getting ready in the room, had a nice time and I was happy. When I was leaving Lisa came over and asked if she could come tomorrow, I told her I was leaving in the morning, she gave me a hug and a big kiss and I left.
Temple Club – While I was setting at the bar I was having fun with one of the girls while she was playing pool, or at least I was, after she lost she didn’t even look my way and went to sit with some other girls. I could have been more forward and invited her over.
Later a sweet lady came over and joined me; she was deaf and could hardly say anything that could be understood, I think she said her name was Normass. But she was fun, lighthearted, touchy, kissy, not bad looking, she had a sexyness about her and soon we were off to my hotel.
She showered and loved having hot water so much she was in there a long time. In bed she was sexy and loving, we both had a great time. She wanted to spend the night but I told her she had to go. Nothing was ever said about money but I’d planned on giving her $30 but she was so much fun I gave her $35 and she was thrilled. I kept thinking she was not a pro, just a regular girl down on her luck, because I gathered she needed the money to feed her kids. And she had several earrings, bracelets and several other pieces of jewelry.
Also, she is the only girl that let me take photos, I got plenty but only posting these three.
Mike
I’m in Pakse, Laos now but after one day/night here I'm leaving. DEAD!
[QUOTE=ReallyaNiceGuy]
Also, she is the only girl that let me take photos, I got plenty but only posting these three.
[/QUOTE]
I guess she probably is as you sure wouldn't post them here otherwise, but that sure is a blokish looking gal, RNG.
No wonder you didn't bother correcting the pics;).
GH
Agreed to a Tuk Tuk driver to find a girl for me, he tried a few back street places but they had a poor selection and the places did not look clean.
Then went to Top Town. This is a big and relatively smart. Joint, seemed to be up a back street. The girls sit in the reception room (like a doctors waiting room). Mamasan wanted US$60 but we settled on $50 for 1 hour. None really turned me on but I chose a slightly a chubby girl with reasonable boobs but it was a bad choice. Not really into it, just there for the money, minimum effort, I gave her a good DATY to orgasm but she did not appreciate it. CBJ was short and poor. Then rode me for a bit, must admit her pussy was nice and tight, then switch to mish to finish.
Quick wash by herself then got dressed, I said no, I paid 1 hour, strip of again and give me a massage, so she did but again it was poor, so I gave up got dress myself and left. She had the cheek to ask for a tip, no way.
So not a great experience but at least now I can add a Cambodian girl in Cambodia to my list.
I always liked SR after having a good time there a couple of years ago,a good time that made me sell my house in australia and emigrate.
Boy what good timing! Was in SR a few months ago with the GF and did all the venues.
That soksan looked good,so many girls in the bar and so many massage girls hanging around.
My pick of the SR venues for a single man.
Owners are Dutch and Swiss with Cambo wives. It's located across from Elephant Statue and Elephants Hotel. Good bar and music with one pool table in the back. 10-12 WG chat you up and go home with you for $20 ST. Most girls are 6/7s but you may want to hold out for a couple of 8s who drop by. 2 or 3 ladyboys are always hanging around hoping for a stupid drunk. The bartender can point them out for you or the girls will tell you.
Many guest houses are within walking distance, including the Mandalay. I stayed at the new Thunborey Hotel. See [url]www.thunboreyhotel.com[/url].
this was my 2nd trip to siem reap. , i like siem reap. it is a nice town, but the overwhelming reason to come here is angkor what archaeological site. everything else is just a bonus.
i arrived in the afternoon so i spent the rest of the day wandering around the town. i had a great dinner at madame butterfly. after dinner i had a few drinks at temple bar and soup dragon on pub street and saw some pretty waitresses, but it did not look like anything was going to happen. i met a free lancer on pub street. she was around thirty and kind of past her prime in the looks department. there were several massage parlors on old market street. some had pretty girls handing out flyers to passer byes. i stopped to talk to one girl. after dropping several hints i realized that these places were traditional massage parlors and offered no happy endings. (if someone at the forum knows different, please let me know.) anyway, i cruised up and down pub street several times between 9 and 10: 30pm. the area was packed with tourists of all stripes and nationalities, but there just was not much girl action. i went back to my hotel and retired.
i woke up early and got a good jump on the hordes of tourists that descend on angkor what complex. a big tip: start at the most distance temple in the park first (banteay srei) and work back. around 3pm the heat and humidity finally got to me so i went back to my hotel to relax by the pool.
had dinner at khmer kitchen on pub street alley, then i again cruised up and down pub street. i saw the same tourists, the same hooker, the same traditional massage girls, and the same pretty waitresses, but not much else. so i walked down pub street, crossed sivatha blvd, took a left on sivatha, walked a block then turned right and saw sok san disco/massage parlor a couple doors down the lane.
a friendly doorman asked me if i wanted to go to the massage parlor or the disco. i said i did not know, so he escorted me through the door on the right which led to a fishbowl containing around 25 girls. i checked the girls out, but none seemed very attractive although many were very eager to be selected. i turned around, left the fishbowl and said ok where is the disco. he led me a little further down the hallway and opened a door.
i was greeted by a very attractive girl wearing a black hostess dress as soon as i stepped inside the disco. she escorted me to a booth along the wall and asked if i wanted company. i liked her smile so i said sure. soon a waitress came by and i ordered some drinks. it was around 9pm and i was the only customer in the place. occasionally some other hostess girls walked past our table to see who i was and what was going on. the girl and i started to get acquainted. she said her name was ta and she was 22 years old. the disco was very dark except for the occasional strobe light so i put my arm around her and started kissing her. she kissed me back pretty passionately and it wasn’t long before i was feeling her up and she was rubbing my dick. i asked her where we could go to make love and she said there were rooms upstairs. i asked how much. she said $50. i said that was too beaucoup. what about $30. she said she could not do it. sok san had a set price and she could not come down from it. i knew further bargaining was pointless and would only spoil the mood.
i sipped my beer and we talked a little more. i then told her i thought she was pretty but that i wanted a better look at her in the lobby. so we went into the lighted lobby. she was about 5ft 2 inches with an hourglass figure and a very pretty face. she gave me another big smile and i started kissing her there in the light. we went back to our table and continued fooling around. i wanted her but i still wasn’t into paying $50. so i offered $35. she politely said she could not do it and i believed her. we again went back to making out and fooling around which i considered a very good sign of her character and attitude. but for some reason i could not pull the trigger so after we finished a 2nd round of drinks, i told her i was tired and was going to go back to my hotel. we kissed good night. i gave her a small tip and told her i would come back tomorrow night. she was gracious and accepting of this. nice girl i thought.
it was still early when i left sok san so i walked around pub st. and had a nightcap at temple bar. i still did not see much action around. it was 11pm. i went back to my hotel and called it a night.
next day covered a lot of ground in angkor what park. i had a great lunch at one of the stalls near the bayon. but all day i could not help but think about little ta. around 3pm i had had enough and went back to the hotel swimming pool to cool out. around 7pm i went to another khmer restaurant on pub alley. between 8 and 9 pm i checked out the pub st. scene again with the multitude of tourists, the pretty waitress girls, the cute traditional massage girls, and the 30 something hooker still looking for a john.
by 9:15 i was back at sok san disco. ta met me as soon as i walked into the place. we kissed and she led me back to our table. i ordered some drinks and we started fooling around. prior to my arriving in siem reap i had been traveling the soppong – mae hong son circuit in northern thailand and had been laid only once in 10 days in chiang mai. i told ta i wanted to make love and she led me out the back door, passed the fishbowl and up the stairs. the room was large and clean and had a king size bed. we embraced and then started taking off our clothes. ta had soft yet firm "b" cup tities with puffy brown nipples. she gave me the cambodian special: soapy shower massage, followed up with the bareback blow job, and lastly a passionate fuck in multiple positions. after we recovered, we did it all again and then a third time. yes i love cambodian women! we were both pretty well spent after the third time, but i fondly remember her laying semi upright with her back against the bed post while my head rested between her breasts, my ass just below her pussy, her legs wrapped around my hips and her arms around my shoulders. we just layed there totally satisfied. after some indeterminate amount of time i realized i was thirsty so i suggested we go downstairs to the disco and get some more drinks. it was around midnight and now the place was a jumping. there were lots of customers. the table to our left had 4 asian dudes with 5 or 6 hostess girls attending to their pleasures. the table to our right had 3 guys from africa and 3 girls hanging out with them. rep001tered around were many western gringos solo and in groups. 3 girls were dancing in bikinis on the stage. ta and i just took it all in and cuddled as we watched the show on stage and off. i told ta this was my last night in siem reap and that i was leaving for phnom penh early in the morning. she gave me her phone number and asked me to call her when i got back to the usa. i said i would and told her i really liked her. i gave her a $10 tip. i truly enjoyed her company. she was my first cambodian girl. finally i got up, kissed her good bye, and reluctantly left the bar. pub st. was now much quieter than it had been earlier although there were still some customers hanging out in some of the bars. i was too tired to check out if there was any real action going on so i just jumped into a tuk tuk and headed back to my hotel.
conclusion:
siem reap: angkor what complex is a must see destination. it ranks right up there with machu picchu, tikal, and bagan. siem reap is a nice town and reminds me a little of chiang mai only smaller and less polluted. while i do not consider it a world class girl destination, it certainly can provide the experienced traveler with a satisfying night or two on the town.
sok san: two establishments in one. the massage parlor/ fishbowl was not for me. $50 for girls i can’t rate higher than a 5. forget about it. the disco – yeah baby. i think this is the top place in town. best looking and best performing girls in town. best ambiance. there are much cheaper alternatives i am sure, but i doubt any other place in siem reap at the time of my visit (march 2009) can come close to this place. i rate it a 9. two big thumbs up!
ta: a great girl. she had a really nice personality. i rate her face 6. 5.7. body 7. performance 9. 5.
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Sok San is closed!
Will reopen 8th of May.
Can anyone recommend a good guide for Angkor what and mongering? Also a good GF hotel within walking distance of Sok San? I will be there with my brother on May 14 if anyone else is around. We'll be spending the rest of our trip in Pattaya.
[QUOTE=Airhead]Can anyone recommend a good guide for Angkor what and mongering? Also a good GF hotel within walking distance of Sok San? I will be there with my brother on May 14 if anyone else is around. We'll be spending the rest of our trip in Pattaya.[/QUOTE]
A good guide for Angkor Wat is unlikely to be a good guide for mongering. Once you find a hotel, they can recommend guides... there are lots of them.
Sok San is right in the center of town about one block from Pub Street. No reason to stay within walking distance, as Central Siem Reap is not large - a tuk tuk ride anywhere around town will not cost more than $2 if you don't let them tell you it's more...just confirm your price before getting in... if they insist on more, move on to the next one - there are so many you have to swat them off like flies. A moto is less. SO no need to stay that close to Sok San.
But if you really want to stay around there - look at Cheapy's post below... Zanzybar is about 1 block away from Sok San.
[QUOTE=Airhead]Can anyone recommend a good guide for Angkor what and mongering? Also a good GF hotel within walking distance of Sok San?[/QUOTE]
As Stew2 says, mongering and Angkor Wat are separate. They are also geographically separated. Angkor Wat is the best reason to go to Siem Reap, but your involvement is dependent on your level of interest.
Angkor Wat
The best guide is downloadable here
[url]http://www.theangkorguide.com/download.htm[/url]
But it is several hundred pages. Too much to take on a trip unless you are an archaeologist.
I suggest that, if it is your first visit, you need two things:
a) a map
You can get this from any number of places online (inc above address), or in any guide book (Lonely Planet etc - bootleg versions available cheap from streetsellers esp if you are going via Phnom Penh), or from freebie literature available in SR.
b) something to get you into the spirit of it.
There are two options I'd strongly recommend. One is a visit to the Museum in SR (it's on the way to Angkor but you won't do it the same day). The other, if you are a reader, is the award-winning (factual) novel The King's Last Song.
Apart from that, it's quite good to have an idea in your head of the timeline, which monuments were built when, and the mutations of the prevailing Buddhist and Hindu (Brahmanic) religions. Also, very important, is to quickly get into your head an idea of the sheer scale of the place and a plan of what you can achieve in the time available. Reading any more than that (either before you go or while you're there) will probably just result in straightforward information overload.
When you get back home, if you found the place interesting, then is a good time to read more extensively in preparation for a future trip. Print out the guide at the above URL and do a chapter at a time.
Remember the Angkor Wat complex is enormous - much bigger than Siem Reap. And it's about half an hour's drive (or a bit less) to get there and getting your ticket/pass on the way. If you have a good driver who speaks English, is honest, is not lazy, that helps. Set out before dawn to get there in time to see the awesome sunrises. Take time off for lunch (your driver will expect this) when it's very hot and go back again later.
There are no mongering opportunities at Angkor Wat. Mongering is what you do in the evening. If you are travelling light, you will get a better deal on a hotel by just turning up. Practically all are GF.
For more on handling AW, check my earlier posts from last year. [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=791953&postcount=265[/url]
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=811394&postcount=286[/url]
My trip was purely on a lark. A job cancelled in Thailand, so I went to Cambodia knowing nothing except Angkor is a place I should see. Hiring the taxi driver made it easy, and I highly recommend it. Here is how it worked.
It cost $5 for a taxi from the airport to the town and a drive around to find a hotel. On the way into town, the driver said he would take me to all of the temples in the morning and return me to the hotel in the afternoon for lunch or a swim. He would pick me up for the sunset view at night. He would also bring me to the pub street for dinner. Price $25. I said sure.
The next morning he was there at the time we agreed upon. He took me to the ticket office to buy my day pass for the temples. He brought me to the first of 3 or 4 temples and said he will wait under a tree at the last temple. I took my time and looked at everything. At the end, i found him asleep in the car. I woke him and off we went to the next temple. This is how the whole day went. The driver was prompt, reliable and pleasent.
[QUOTE=Christopherd]As Stew2 says, mongering and Angkor Wat are separate. They are also geographically separated. Angkor Wat is the best reason to go to Siem Reap, but your involvement is dependent on your level of interest.
Angkor Wat
The best guide is downloadable here
[url]http://www.theangkorguide.com/download.htm[/url]
But it is several hundred pages. Too much to take on a trip unless you are an archaeologist.
I suggest that, if it is your first visit, you need two things:
a) a map
You can get this from any number of places online (inc above address), or in any guide book (Lonely Planet etc - bootleg versions available cheap from streetsellers esp if you are going via Phnom Penh), or from freebie literature available in SR.
b) something to get you into the spirit of it.
There are two options I'd strongly recommend. One is a visit to the Museum in SR (it's on the way to Angkor but you won't do it the same day). The other, if you are a reader, is the award-winning (factual) novel The King's Last Song.
Apart from that, it's quite good to have an idea in your head of the timeline, which monuments were built when, and the mutations of the prevailing Buddhist and Hindu (Brahmanic) religions. Also, very important, is to quickly get into your head an idea of the sheer scale of the place and a plan of what you can achieve in the time available. Reading any more than that (either before you go or while you're there) will probably just result in straightforward information overload.
When you get back home, if you found the place interesting, then is a good time to read more extensively in preparation for a future trip. Print out the guide at the above URL and do a chapter at a time.
Remember the Angkor Wat complex is enormous - much bigger than Siem Reap. And it's about half an hour's drive (or a bit less) to get there and getting your ticket/pass on the way. If you have a good driver who speaks English, is honest, is not lazy, that helps. Set out before dawn to get there in time to see the awesome sunrises. Take time off for lunch (your driver will expect this) when it's very hot and go back again later.
There are no mongering opportunities at Angkor Wat. Mongering is what you do in the evening. If you are travelling light, you will get a better deal on a hotel by just turning up. Practically all are GF.
For more on handling AW, check my earlier posts from last year. [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=791953&postcount=265[/url]
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=811394&postcount=286[/url][/QUOTE]Thanks for the input. I read your helpful report a few weeks ago, and I'm almost done reading "The King's Last Song" based on the recommendation in your report. It's an interesting read, and I hope it helps me understand what I'll be seeing in a few days.
I guess I'll just turn up and hope to find a good guide. I thought you guys might have a particular person who was reliable.
Recently had a chance to visit Blue Wave twice and Top Town once.
First visit to Blue Wave, walked in early in the evening, was the only one in the bar. Blue Wave is easy to find. Close to old town and Pub Street (maybe 1/4 mile walk). Major landmark about 1/2 block away is the Hotel de la Paix - find that and go up the side street just by it and look across the street to find Blue Wave. Open from 6pm - 2 am.
Upon entering, immediately all the girls (4-5 of them) jumped up and swarmed me, led me to the bar and invited me to choose one. None were outstanding looking but they were all pleasant enough. Somehow Srey Ohn appealed to me, so I selected her. After a beer and some small talk (English passable, not extensive), I paid the bar man 22 (2 for the beer, 20 for the girl), and headed to the back to a room. Srey Ohn was a great gfe - showered together, bbbj, covered fs, and then back to bbbj... really a nice girl who worked hard to please me.
Later I decided to try Top Town, as I recalled some good reviews here, and had noticed its location on Rte 6 as you head out of town (about a mile from the center). It has both a massage/boom boom center and karaoke or KTV... I went for the massage/boom boom service. Was there rather early (around 7), so the selection was rather limited, but did find one who seemed friendly and nice looking enough. When I emerged after my session, the number of girls had more than doubled, and there were some good lookers there, but on the whole, I would say that the girls I saw at Top Town were not so clearly better looking than the ones at Blue Wave.
Price was surprising - when I asked, papasan quoted it at 30, which is lower than I had read here in earlier posts. The sessions with Aya was also pleasant - she is friendly and pleasant to spend time with. But one thing that was clearly different here is that I was told from the beginning by the "papasan" and again by Aya when I asked, that yum yum was off the table. As Aya put it, Cambodians do boom boom, not yum yum. That was, of course, not a deal breaker, as I had understood it before going in from papasan, but having read previous reports, I was hoping it was official policy only. Alas, no luck there.
Next, back to Blue Wave, and had a very similar experience as I had had the first time. Decided to try a different girl this time (to the disappointment of Srey Ohn), so I selected Srey Moem... another caught my eye, but made the mistake of coming too close and letting me get a prior whiff of her breath. Srey Moem was as gfe as Srey Ohn had been, with the added bonus that we ended with COF. She laughed at that, as did I.
In all, I would say that the quality of the girls in Blue Wave visually may be just a tad lower than at Top Town, but the difference is not really significant. The price is a little better at Blue Wave (20 compared to 30), and the girls seem to be happy to do BJs. I would go back to Blue Wave, but might not visit Top Town too quickly.
Top Town was crap, I took a girl out, 50 after bargaining, she wasn't really entusiastic and she was bleeding like hell. I went back for another one, Mama san wanted an additional 30. I said fuck you and left, not recommended!
Martini, some good lookers but 50 for mama san and the best ones asked for 30-35. I liked Temple club on bar street, I always prefer discos or bars before fishbowls since you normally can get an idea of the girls attitude by talking to her a bit.
Radius International Angkor Star not recommended, girlfriendly but charge 10 us PER girl, so one night I was charged 20 us (when checking out)
I like the kmer girls after all and I got some good BJ: s, despite the earlier posts of BJ: s and Kmers not being compatible.
Good couple of posts there.
I met some pommie guys in the walkabou late one night who had been in phnom penh since that morning from Pattaya.
They were leaving the following morning-couldn't get out quick enough.
Why?
Well apart from the crappy hotel with no jacuzzi and the smell and the flies. All the girls demanded $50!
People do seem to often be asked for 50 bucks especially in siem riep.
But others are offered the same for much less.
I believe at the moment that more bar girls than ever before will go for 20 bucks and they look really good.
So many beautiful girls around.
My mate just got the gold card at one of the flashest karaokes in town. He says that the girls are really outstanding and lots of them.
These english blokes had done the tired strip of sharkey/walkabou/martini.
Hadnt been to a bar in 104 or 136-they had no idea where they were.
As for knowing of primo spots like LCC and MO, of course not.
Keep them coming.
[QUOTE=Phil Istine]Good couple of posts there.
I met some pommie guys in the walkabou ......
My mate just got the gold card at one of the flashest karaokes in town....
the tired strip of sharkey/walkabou/martini.
.... a bar in 104 or 136-......
....primo spots like LCC and MO, .....[/QUOTE]
What on earth are talking about ????
Sorry knight,that stream of consciousness thing doesnt gel with you.
The point i was endeavouring to make was that these guys hated it,partly because of the filth but also the expensive girls.
If one is more informed the place is great.
I always tell new comers if they take a girl from a bar never to discuss the money.If the money is discussed it is often fucked.
Just do it and give em 20 bucks in the morning.
As for the gold card-great.
The khmers have the best looking women by far at the karaokes and the selection is incredible apparently.We are going to the party at the karaoke next week,my mate is shouting all his business contacts to a big pissup.
You are shown dozens of girls and when you select one she will attend to you for a few dollars an hour and for 20 bucks will do whatever you want-parties are in private rooms.
Last night we went with khmer partners to le mekong,a khmer nightclub on kamphuchea krom.
Our thai mate told us that it really warmed up later,he was right.
So many spunky young khmer women,all available.
But one would have to have some khmer-I do now but have a missus!
This place is unreal if you are a resident who speaks khmer but you could say that of any asian capital city if one is a true local.
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Don't use the motorbike drivers in front of the bars. They will take you to a place where you are asked to pay as much as 80 dollars. Go into the back streets and ask one of them to take you to a place where you only want to pay 20 dollars.
Knight - he's in the wrong section - he's talking about PP - 104 and 136 are street numbers "walkabou" is WALKABOUT (Pasteur and 174)
[QUOTE=Phil Istine]
I always tell new comers if they take a girl from a bar never to discuss the money.If the money is discussed it is often fucked.
[/QUOTE]
I would advise against this and always talk money upfront if you are taking a girl from a hosstess bar. Otherwise you both may have very different expectations and end up in a nasty confrontation. The barang will nearly always lose. Dont put yourself in this position.
I dont talk money with the girls from the WA for ST but even then some are expecting $15 and not the $10 I give them. If I wasnt a frequent flyer WA ST customer I could have problems.
For goodness sake guys, and for the benefit of newcomers, do please shift your PP discussion to the correct thread. This is the SR thread.
Well shadow I am in SR tomorrow night and if I indulge I will not discuss the money.
I have been here quite a long time and up to you means up to you.
However I do speak quite well now and I understand the culture, but still up to you means up to you.
I will hopefully post report this week.
I like siem reap.
Always have.
[QUOTE=Phil Istine]Well shadow I am in SR tomorrow night and if I indulge I will not discuss the money.
I have been here quite a long time and up to you means up to you.
However I do speak quite well now and I understand the culture, but still up to you means up to you.
I will hopefully post report this week.
I like siem reap.
Always have.[/QUOTE]
Well have a good trip, and lots of luck in your punting adventures. But if you are told the price is up to you then you have in fact disscussed price. I would still recommend that in most places for most people it is better to disscuss price first.
Every time I go into a new $5 brothel or one I havent been to for 6 months I always tell them what im going to pay. They normally say it is now $10 at which point I say no thank you then. The price then comes back down to $5. If I hadnt had this conversation you can bet they would have demanded $10. Very hard to negotiate after the fact.
[QUOTE=Shadow6491]Every time I go into a new $5 brothel or one I havent been to for 6 months I always tell them what im going to pay.[/QUOTE]Well it certainly makes sense to talk price first in a brothel. It's not like it's going to ruin the mood or anything.
With girls from bars, I find that the ones interested in talking about price first are generally of no interest to me.
In a brothel you may only be arguing over $5 in a hosstess bar your expectations may be $20 for a LT and hers may be $50 or $100. As a tourist when an argument breaks out who are you going to turn to. She has many friends and even the police.
If talking price is going to ruin the experience for you then you need to take a reality check. The girl you are about to fuck is a prositute she is only doing it for the money. She is not going to be your wife or girlfriend. You are going to pay her to go away in the morning.
If she can talk price with you and still give that GFE then she is worth going with. If she doesnt want to talk prices then it may well be a warning that you may have some sort of problems in the future.
Anyway this is Asia and its all up to you. This site is just here to try and make it easier for people to avoid problems and to find out where to have a good time and I hope I can help as many people have helped me over the years.
[QUOTE=Shadow6491]As a tourist . . . If talking price is going to ruin the experience for you then you need to take a reality check.[/QUOTE]Er . . . the line about ruining the mood in a brothel was, um, a joke. And we're not all tourists.
New guys especially do need to make sure about prices. But for what it's worth, many veteran mongers seldom if ever mention it. It's all about knowing the market rate, speaking the language, and establishing rapport with the girl. That has always worked just fine for me. But do whatever works for you.
Went to the usual places and ended up spending several nights in SR coming and going to anglong veng and preah vihear.
Lots of nice girls.
Had a good time in the zanzybar on the main drag,many nice girls.
Hit the cow in the 4WD heading north near the thai border,we were lucky to survive thanks to seat belts and air bags.
A small car would have meant curtains.
[QUOTE=Phil Istine]
Hit the cow in the 4WD heading north near the thai border,we were lucky to survive thanks to seat belts and air bags.[/QUOTE]
Just out of interest - what happened to the cow?
[QUOTE=Christopherd]Just out of interest - what happened to the cow?[/QUOTE]
I think it's on someones dinner plate by now.
I just went back from a 2 week trip in Cambodja.
Due to the fact that I was not alone this time, could not go my usually way true some bars...
So this time I checked some MP's in Siem Reap.
I must say, most of them offer a very good massage but non of them offered me something more!
I also have the impression that by authorities a lot is done to keep an eye on
the sex scene... (see my picture below)
Sorry I forgot the picture!
The cow?
Just back on the site after a couple of trips to the bush, kamongsaom-la or!
Chickens everywhere, poultry industry is surviving the downturn.
The cow was whacked in the side by a pajero/montero doing maybe 20MPH.
She bounced off and landed about five metres from where the car ended up, in front of us.
Still alive but down, ribs, internal injuries, broken legs or hips-not good.
I only had one glance before ordering everyone back in the car and we drove the wreck around the cow and escaped.
I was only looking in the mirror for a pursuit moto which never came but one of the girls said that the cow had stood up as we limped away. I would much rather hit a cow than another vehicle, the cow is stationery virtually and it is quite soft!
An oncoming car doubles the impact, never swerve but hit the cow or risk certain death.
Thought is might be of interest to those mongers who have been to Angkor temples to pick up the latest issue of National Geographic. The article is also online free. Goes into detail how water was so important to them during that time. And also how the whole Angkor complex was perhaps the biggest urban area to that date in the world at the time. The whole complex is really amazing. Just imagine if you could go back in time and really see it live. Spock where are you.
Good report steve.
I first went to angkor only three years ago and looked at the buildings a a builder not as an enthusiast for temples.
I thought then that the area must have been the biggest building site in the world, maybe the biggest ever.
Recent studies have confirmed this.
I was at angkor again a few days ago with a mate from the building game on his first visit and he was as impressed as I was with the scale of the construction.
He was also impressed with some of the ladies at Siem Riep.
[QUOTE=Steve 99]Thought is might be of interest to those mongers who have been to Angkor temples to pick up the latest issue of National Geographic. The article is also online free.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the tip - much appreciated.
Also worth a download for those seriously interested is the official archeological guide. It's in pdf and when you print it out it's about 2 to 3 inches thick so you need a lot of paper. I find it a relaxing read, a chapter or so each night. It throws a lot of light on the stuff that looked so cool when you visited.
[url]http://www.theangkorguide.com/download.htm[/url] (7Mb)
btw do you have a link for the NG article? I can't seem to get in without a subscription.
I recently returned from Siem Reap. I tried a few of the many massage parlors on the main drag but while the massage was good none offered any extras. I decided to tray out the Blue Wave Bar which is lcaoted on the side street to the lef tof the Hotel de la Paix. Easy to find. It was a Thursday night about 10pm and was definitely ready for some action. When I arrived at the bar there were no other customers. It was very dark inside so couldn't get a good feel for tghe palce but it was certainly spacious with a long bar with stools and some cosier cubicles along one wall.
I took a seat at the bar and was immediately joined by three women, two of whom should ahve thought about retiring and another younhger one with a great smile. She could have done with losing a couple of kilos but was dead sexy anyway. I bought her a drink and we moved to one of the cubicles. The conversation was pleasnt even though her English was nsot too good. She ttold me she was 24 and from Kompong Chang province. Before long she was caressing my thigh and kissing me lightly on the lips. After a few minutes she was kissingme deeply and had her hand buried beweeen my legs.
She asked if I wanted to take a room. The bar is connected to a guest house next door. I paid the barman $20 and we went to the room, which was clean, if simple. We both showered and with her clothes off she was extremely attractive with a lovely pair of breasts. She was highly enthusiastic and left no part of my body unexplored. A fabulous kisser. Very erotic. She raelly got into it. Afterwards we lay about a bit and it was a real GFE experience. I gave her a $10 tip which she seemed very happy with. We had another drink at the bar and then I left, I would certainly have returned the following night but had to leave for PP. There was one other customer in the bar as I headed for the street. I'd reccommend this place for its convenient location and the fact that it is attached to a guesthouse.
the National Geographic article from July 09 is here:
[url]http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/2009/07/angkor/stone-text[/url]
[QUOTE=Christopherd]Thanks for the tip - much appreciated.
Also worth a download for those seriously interested is the official archeological guide. It's in pdf and when you print it out it's about 2 to 3 inches thick so you need a lot of paper. I find it a relaxing read, a chapter or so each night. It throws a lot of light on the stuff that looked so cool when you visited.
[url]http://www.theangkorguide.com/download.htm[/url] (7Mb)
btw do you have a link for the NG article? I can't seem to get in without a subscription.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Stew2]the National Geographic article from July 09 is here:
[url]http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/2009/07/angkor/stone-text[/url][/QUOTE]Stew,
I also read the article very nice picture of the city, I hope that will bring more tourist and dollar to Siem Reap, I heard tourist is down because of the bad enconomy, the people here can only survive from the tourist dollar.
Fast eddie 48
Hi,
I just want to ask if anybody stayed in Shadow of Angkor II before?
Is it girl-friendly?
[URL="http://www.shadowofangkor.com/gallery2.html"]http://www.shadowofangkor.com/gallery2.html[/URL]
Thanks
Had a quick trip to SR to look at Angkor. The place is amazing, can't imagine what it would have been like to be bushwacking through the jungle and come across it. "Is this the train station?"
Stayed at the Mandalay Inn which was nice, AC, hot water and cable TV for $16 a night. Very friendly and helpful staff. The tuk-tuk guy they have, Mr Yan, was great too. Sign says "Don't encourage for joiners" but they don't stop them either. Good location, 5 mins to Pub Street, less to the food stalls that pop up at night and the market also.
First night there ate at Temple Bar, if you go there around 8.30 and sit near the door you can check out the goings on in the street and the ladies coming in. Noted for another night. As I had a 5am start for sunrise I decided to find Blue Wave and have an easy night, and followed the directions given here by Fergie1. Easy to find, head north of Sivatha until you reach Achar Mean St - there is a petrol station on the SW corner, Hotel De La Paix on the NW corner and a KFC up the street a little on the NE side. Turn left, walk about 50m and you'll see it. Empty bar, 4 ladies straight at me so retired to a cubicle with 1 either side kissing and grabbing. Not super hot but OK. They were massaging, I told them I'd already had massage today, and got told they have "massage room" in the back. Asked what kind of massage, they said "Khmer massage, no Vietnamese massage" so the "Khmer's don't do BJ" line seems to stand.
Decided on 1, didn't quite catch her name, not very much english, wearing some kind of hotpants with no knickers and asked the rest to leave us in peace. After more kissing and fondling, paid the bar man $20 + $4 for 2 beers and went to the room. Showered, more kissing and then gave her a bit of a tounge-lashing that had her pushing against my face and rubbing while she came. She returned the favour with a BBBJ (so I guess the no BJ is only the public line) then covered up and fucked with some AF for her, but only up to the first knuckle. Afterwards shower together again and get well soaped up, some more kissing, tipped her about $10 (I think, may have been a bit less) and went home to get a good sleep.
Next day templing all day left me knackered (it gets bloody hot out there) so just went for dinner and a few beers at the irish pub on the corner of Pub Street and Sivatha. Another good place to watch the world go by and check out the girls, you can't miss them if you have half an idea of what you're looking for and if you give them a wink I'm sure you could pick them up then and there. Chatted with a cute waitress then headed home.
3rd day slept late then headed out for a massage, tried to find the moto guy who'd been pestering me to go to a chicken farm the night before (kind of arranged to meet him where he hung out but he wasn't around at the designated time) so missed out on that one. Happy Khmer Pizza - don't get "happy" pizza unless you have no plans for the next few hours. That night went to Temple Bar again and sat a bit closer to the pool tables to see the girls coming in and they check you out too. 1 caught my eye and I mouthed hello as she headed to the bar, after getting a drink she came back and sat down. We chatted a bit then moved up to the bar to play some pool. Fun girl, name was "Chita" (Sichita?), 5ft and a bit, small and very hot, good English, said she was half Khmer half Thai. Had a great time with her playing pool and meeting her friends (I'm pretty sure I met RaNG's "Normass", she is dumb but not deaf from what I understand, and she was very bubbly and friendly and pretty cute). Plenty of other girls giving me the eye when Chita was taking her shot, she got a bit shitty later when I went to the toilet and bought "Normass" a coke on the way back, guess she thought she was losing me but she got over it quick enough. Anyway we left and walked back to the GH, stopping at Zanzybar on the way for another beer, which was pretty dead (it was late, maybe 2am or more). Got her back to the room, DATY and fingering for a long while (amazing stomach muscles when she comes, and noisy too, paid back the neighbours for slamming doors at 5am the morning before), BBBJ and covered sex plus again on waking up. $40 in the morning (she asked for a tip, so gave her the rest of my duty free cigarettes as I was flying out - she was a smoker), she left about 10am because I had to go but I'm sure would have stayed longer.
Sorry didn't get to do any exploring around Zone 1 etc, would have been good to find the chicken farm guy and see what he had to offer so I could report. Next time maybe.
All in all SR is a fun place, although I'm sure I'd get tourist overload in the high season, good cheap food and beer, and opportunities for mongering. The $1 kids could get on your nerves but if you be polite and chat with them a bit they can come up with some funny lines - a couple made me crack up. Massages are also good and cheap (Blue7 had a good Khmer massage, thought something might be on when she closed the door to the room after having it open for the first half hour but alas...). 1 massage lady asked me if I was married (no), have girlfriend (no), can I be your girlfriend (I am leaving tomorrow, want to come with me?) I don't have passport (you can be my girlfriend just for tonight if you want) giggle.
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Greetings Gents -
I'm planning a trip to see the Angkor Wat in February and have started my research now. After reading 5 - 6 pages here I only see prices in what I assume to be USD. Is that the best way to pay or am I missing something? Does the local currency come into play at all? Many Thanks.........LDP
[QUOTE=LuvDaPuss]Greetings Gents -
I'm planning a trip to see the Angkor Wat in February and have started my research now. After reading 5 - 6 pages here I only see prices in what I assume to be USD. Is that the best way to pay or am I missing something? Does the local currency come into play at all? Many Thanks.........LDP[/QUOTE]
Almost everything is paid (and listed) in US dollars. If you have some local riels, good for using mototaxi and tips then also could use but heard its being phased out and only US dollars will be used in near future.
Shark
[QUOTE=LuvDaPuss]Greetings Gents.
I'm planning a trip to see the Angkor what in February and have started my research now. After reading 5. 6 pages here I only see prices in what I assume to be USD. Is that the best way to pay or am I missing something? Does the local currency come into play at all? Many Thanks. LDP[/QUOTE]You can pay for things in US$. ATM machines dispense US $. Local currency, Riel, is used for transportation, local street food vendors, local markets, etc. 1000 Riel = $0.25 so if something is $4.50 and you pay $5, you'll get 2000 Riel back as change. If you're at a market and something is 3000 Riel and you give them $1, they'll give you 1000 Riel back.
You don't need to make change for Riel, you can get some when you go eat at restaurants or go shopping.
Try to break big bills ($20, $50, and even $10) at hotels, restaurants, bigger companies, etc, so you can use the $1 (and $5) for your transportation and buying food from street vendors.
Excellent info guys, thanks a lot. Seems so strange that their main currency is USD but it must work for them. I have one other question that I have found no reference to at all. What is the skinny on herbal refreshment? I know this can be a controversial question but inquiring minds have got to know. Is it available or are the local laws so strict that no one dares to get near it?............LDP
[QUOTE=LuvDaPuss]Excellent info guys, thanks a lot. Seems so strange that their main currency is USD but it must work for them. I have one other question that I have found no reference to at all. What is the skinny on herbal refreshment? I know this can be a controversial question but inquiring minds have got to know. Is it available or are the local laws so strict that no one dares to get near it?............LDP[/QUOTE]
Outside of ordering a happy pizza at one of the pizza places along the street just around the corner from Pub Street, I wouldn't risk it. Just my opinion. The Happy Pizza may give you a buzz, though the time I tried it that's all it was and not a terribly good one. Certainly not good enough to want to do it again.
[QUOTE=LuvDaPuss]Excellent info guys, thanks a lot. Seems so strange that their main currency is USD but it must work for them. I have one other question that I have found no reference to at all. What is the skinny on herbal refreshment? I know this can be a controversial question but inquiring minds have got to know. Is it available or are the local laws so strict that no one dares to get near it?............LDP[/QUOTE]
Seems to be ok to eat the weed but truthfully I never seen anyone smoke it in public (perhaps thats illegal to do).
[QUOTE=Sharka]Seems to be ok to eat the weed but truthfully I never seen anyone smoke it in public (perhaps thats illegal to do).[/QUOTE]It is ilegal, but I can't belive that none of the TT drivers have offered it to you, cheap as hell. 10 will get you 1/4 ounce. Just ask. Do be VEY careful, tho.
[QUOTE=Hecubus21]It is ilegal, but I can't belive that none of the TT drivers have offered it to you, cheap as hell. 10 will get you 1/4 ounce. Just ask. Do be VEY careful, tho.[/QUOTE]
Sharka and I were in SR together and not once were we offered anything except trips to Angkor and girls. Must be which drivers you encounter. I've been to SR twice now and was never offered at anytime to me.
But I also never asked as I no longer smoke.
PT
[QUOTE=Hecubus21]It is ilegal, but I can't belive that none of the TT drivers have offered it to you, cheap as hell. 10 will get you 1/4 ounce. Just ask. Do be VEY careful, tho.[/QUOTE]
Had a feeling it was illegal. Do concur with PT that I was never even offered anything other than girls for bonking.
[QUOTE=LuvDaPuss]Excellent info guys, thanks a lot. Seems so strange that their main currency is USD but it must work for them. I have one other question that I have found no reference to at all. What is the skinny on herbal refreshment? I know this can be a controversial question but inquiring minds have got to know. Is it available or are the local laws so strict that no one dares to get near it?............LDP[/QUOTE]Cambodia is the most tolerant with the herb, in South East Asia or Asia for that matter. All the happy pizza joints had an herbal side order. Older locals blaze & everybody (locals) told me I could roll up & put it in the air. Still be cautious in public as cops find it an easy way to get $ out of you. Check webehigh.com I chilled with my moto driver & his friends who owned a restaurant in front of the lake, almost every night after they closed. We hung out & put one up as if we were in Amsterdam. I chilled in a hammock in front of the restaurant with an magnificent view of the lake, & blazed a fat one to the dome every night. My moto driver even suggested I light up on the way to see the temples on his moto bike. Be careful of witch moto drivers to trust though. I so happen to find a cool, young, down to earth, cat, who even took me to his village where he lives 45 min. Away from the city. Man, I might have to look through my old pics. To post some of the ladies I encountered.
Peace,
H5
While it may be semi-legal in Cambodia, for gods sake don't be tempted to take it to another country where the laws may not be so tolerant.
I've just been watching the series 'Big Trouble in Tourist Thailand' on YouTube where an 18-year-old got arrested at a Full Moon party with a small amount of weed. Fortunately, because of her age and a first offense, she got let off. This should not be taken for granted though. The mental anguish that she must have suffered was phenomenal. Another Brit has been banged up for dealing and will be out of society for a very long time. It doesn't take much for the Thai police to nick you and they can be very, very intolerant.
Likewise, Middle Eastern countries tend to take a very dim view of drugs if you are caught with them.
By all means take advantage of the stuff but don't take it with you unless you are prepared for a stretch in a nasty place of confinement.
Just my 2c
Expatcat
Many thanks bro's - I'm aware of the problems that can come up with this subject but as some have said it varies quite a bit. In Indonesia they will prosecute for thinking about weed, Malaysia is fairly strict, Thailand is much worse on the seller than the tourist for small amounts which makes it tough to get. Viet Nam and Phillipines - don't know, will have to ask. It is not important enough to change my schedule but is good to know the local custom. It does enhance the monger experience though so I thought it OK to ask on this forum, especially since most mongers are straight shooters.......LDP
No one ever busted in Cambodia for weed.
One of the attractions of the place.
[QUOTE=Camieleke]I just went back from a 2 week trip in Cambodja.
Due to the fact that I was not alone this time, could not go my usually way true some bars...
So this time I checked some MP's in Siem Reap.
I must say, most of them offer a very good massage but non of them offered me something more!
I also have the impression that by authorities a lot is done to keep an eye on
the sex scene... (see my picture below)[/QUOTE]
What you are talking about is not "sex scene"; it is crime scene. The poster is about abuse of children and not sex. Abuse of children is a sick crime and not sex scene.
[QUOTE=LuvDaPuss]Malaysia is fairly strict[/QUOTE]Potential death penalty for even small amounts . . . yep, that's fairly strict. Cambodia is a free-for-all by comparison. But Siem Reap might be one place to be just a bit careful, because it's such a tourist trap.
Hello from Siem Reap.
Well Cambodia is a drastic change from Malaysia and Singapore. One thing you will not see is the red highlighted words on your entry card which says, "Death penalty for drugs".
I tried out two pizza places whilst searching for the perfect happy pizza. The first was a ritzty place, called red pizza or something like that. Anyway, the pizza gave me a buzz similar to having drunk 3 or 4 beers. And I was still light headed 12 hours later. I tried the happy herb pizza restaurant here in Siem Reap. You can smell the ganja but you will not get a high. I was so totally disappointed. I mentioned this to my tuk tuk driver and he offered to help me get the real ganja.
According the my driver all of the places where the Vietnamese girls were at have been permanently closed by the cops. I will try to verify this. I have been busy seeing the Angkor what ruins.
Yeah apl.
Happy pizza hit and miss and usually over rated.
I have had one spectacular one in snookyville however,three hard cases out of it all night.
Only happened once.
Australia much better place to eat cannabis.
[QUOTE=Phil Istine]Yeah apl.
Happy pizza hit and miss and usually over rated.
I have had one spectacular one in snookyville however,three hard cases out of it all night.
Only happened once.
Australia much better place to eat cannabis.[/QUOTE]Phil,
I try a slice of extra happy there 4 yr ago and I sure got the effect one hr later and I only ate half of a slice ,don't think I want to try one again.
Fast Eddie 48
Based on what I got from the board, scoring in SR was pretty easy - so thanks to those before. Started at Blue Wave which is on the side street to the left of Hotel de La Paix. Went early and 5 girls. A beer and ladies drink cost $5 - sign says Ladies Drink plus $1 so I am not sure how we got to $5...anyhow. Chose one slim pretty gal ~7 but sorry guys - forgot the name. Sat in the booth and she wasted no time massaging my shoulders and then massaging my cock through my pants. Happy to kiss but not much tongue. I quickly discovered she was wearing no panties which was nice. She pushed me towards going out back - quoted $20 for yum yum, boom boom and massage which seemed OK. Not great BBBJ skills but happy with DATY and lots of positions before it all happened.
Walked pub st and was accosted by plenty of older WG but suspect at least one was a Ladyboy. Easy to catch the eye of other gals though who you could pull. But food at Temple - some gals out the back but it was pretty busy.
Sok Sen is a disco/fishbowl at the end of Pub t - go to the end, turn left and then first right - lots of neon - really you can't miss it. Got there at 10 and ~10 gals swarmed when I arrived. Hooked up quickly with a very nice young Khmer gal (yeah sorry about the name again!) - she was pretty pushy about ging to the room - asked the price - she quoted $50, told her 30 and we got to $35 which seemed par for the locale. Hope I am not contributing to inflan. She had a killer body but was a bit sort of "hard" - anyhow no yum yum and had to sling her an extra $5 for DATY but she warmed up after that and rode me well. Great image of that hot young slim brown body.
As I normally monger in Germany I naturally make comparisons. I take responsibility but just couldn't get the chemistry going with these gals like I do in Germany. It was quite mechanical. I will try again tonight and see if I can improve - might just be the newness and I know you get out what you put in. Anyhow hope these few words help someone else.
I have one too, but its not the same, is it?
Hi!
I just made it back home from Cambodia. I am glad that you had fun in Siem reap but if you paid more than $20 to play then you got ripped off big time. Hint-you can get the old time rates if you are a repeat customer;) Shop around because some places have nice viet girls, and others have some cold bitches. Over all, I had the most fun at the blue mountain. I am also happy to report that the chicken ranch is alive and well. I never made it back there again as I had already shagged at other places. But there will be a next time hopefully
[QUOTE=Asianpussylover]Hi!
I just made it back home from Cambodia. I am glad that you had fun in Siem reap but if you paid more than $20 to play then you got ripped off big time. Hint-you can get the old time rates if you are a repeat customer;) Shop around because some places have nice viet girls, and others have some cold bitches. Over all, I had the most fun at the blue mountain. I am also happy to report that the chicken ranch is alive and well. I never made it back there again as I had already shagged at other places. But there will be a next time hopefully[/QUOTE]
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm confused as the title of your post said Siem Reap but I don't ever remember a Blue Mt in SR?- only Blue Mt I know was in Snooky. And since you are on the topic of prices, care to give us the latest prices you paid in SR and Blue Mt and chicken ranch so we all don't get ripped off as you put it.
PT
Hi all,
I am coming to SR on Jan13th. Searched our forums and net to see girl friendly hotel and where I can get some action but with little help. Old reports show that golden banana, mandalayinn, twodragons, were GF. Not sure about current status. Max $20 for AC. Prefer to tip the girl more and spend less on room.
Any pointers on budget hotels that are guest friendly (will be great if it has WIFI). Been to Pattaya and phuket and I understand SR is not known for this but for temples. So my first priority is temple and would like to spend the night glad. If any forum member will be in SR at this time, will be more than happy to meet and beer is on me.
Take care,
Kris
[QUOTE=Kris Char1]Hi all,
I am coming to SR on Jan13th.
Kris[/QUOTE]My trip is canceled. But i did inquire (through email) some of the budget hotels and they responded that they do allow guests overnight provided the guest signs in the register and if in doubt, the guest should provide some age proof.
I miss the temples.
Kris
Hi
Been lately on a visit to see the glorious temples of SR. Well to sample the talent got hold of the tuk tuk guy, checked out the soksang next to the night market, A presentation from the fish bowl took one who appealed me with a nice rack, moved over to my hotel, what followed was a great time, Damages 65USD and guess it was on the high side. Had no much time to check out other venues. Girl 7/10 for performance, looks and attitude.
Cheers,
BB
I was in siem reap last Nov. Found one street about 20-30 ladies all viets are really cheap $5 each session boom boom only, they will ask for 20 insist on 5, most of them would accept. I had at least 10 of them for my 4 days stay, on second day I even do not need to negotiate the prize just said 5 dollars ok. Pure sex, good fun, kind of experience, will release the location if anyone interest.
[QUOTE=Benjamin Be]I was in siem reap last Nov. Found one street about 20-30 ladies all viets are really cheap $5 each session boom boom only, they will ask for 20 insist on 5, most of them would accept. I had at least 10 of them for my 4 days stay, on second day I even do not need to negotiate the prize just said 5 dollars ok. Pure sex, good fun, kind of experience, will release the location if anyone interest.[/QUOTE]
Do tell that location - that's what the site is all about. Otherwise, it's just a good story to the rest of us.
Top town which every driver knows, ask them drop you off at top town cost $1 from Pub st, then walk up about 150 m then turn right to the first crossing st, further walk about 50m then you will find 6-7 places along the st. The women are sitting outside the house when you walk pass they will ask you "massage? " then you tell them boom boom? They will ask for 20 and you insist on 5 and prepare to walk away, most of them would say yes, all viets, qulity and service are very average and rooms are ok with fan only could be very hot but only 5 dollars what else you can expect.
I went there at around 6-7pm each time, yes its a dark st but I do not feel unsafe. But again don't go there too late, also don't know the scene during the day, too busy to do the temples.
Good luck everyone and have a good time while you staying at siem reap
This was my third trip to semi reap. Love this place, but prices have steadily risen but good action for $5 to $10. Lots of reports here outlining the scene. I have never had a problem with bring a girl back to a room in Asia. All hotels are girl friendly.
Asked one of the guys at front desk to arrange a in room massage. Great looking girl arrives, good massage, but no action, $10 a hour. Next night I tried again, ask for massage and bang bang, girl fom a different massage shop shows up, the t-shirt was a different color and no phone number on the back, just # 30. Massage was as good as the night before, girl as good looking, said she was 22, and damages were a little more. She was hesitant in doing yum yum, but did ok job, just ok, after some discussion. Started mish, then cowboy and reverse cowboy, finished doggie. Damages: $10 an hour for the massage,$ 10 for the bang bang (asked for 10, and i didn’t argue) total $20 for about 2 hours. What can I say, great room service, why go on a walk-a-round or pay a tuk tuk driver? Next morning he asked if I wanted massage tonight. I say sure, same girl ok he says. I said sure. Gave the guy at front desk a $5 tip and a big smile and thank you, as I departed the following morning. Wish I had tired this before.
[QUOTE=Plane Guy]This was my third trip to semi reap. Love this place, but prices have steadily risen but good action for $5 to $10. Lots of reports here outlining the scene. I have never had a problem with bring a girl back to a room in Asia. All hotels are girl friendly.
Asked one of the guys at front desk to arrange a in room massage. Great looking girl arrives, good massage, but no action, $10 a hour. Next night I tried again, ask for massage and bang bang, girl fom a different massage shop shows up, the t-shirt was a different color and no phone number on the back, just # 30. Massage was as good as the night before, girl as good looking, said she was 22, and damages were a little more. She was hesitant in doing yum yum, but did ok job, just ok, after some discussion. Started mish, then cowboy and reverse cowboy, finished doggie. Damages: $10 an hour for the massage, $ 10 for the bang bang (asked for 10, and I didn't argue) total $20 for about 2 hours. What can I say, great room service, why go on a walk-a-round or pay a tuk tuk driver? Next morning he asked if I wanted massage tonight. I say sure, same girl ok he says. I said sure. Gave the guy at front desk a $5 tip and a big smile and thank you, as I departed the following morning. Wish I had tired this before.[/QUOTE]Plane,
You recollect the name of your hotel? Heading over from Thailand next week, looking for lodging, and the Agoda hotel descriptions do not include this 'room service' info.
Best
[QUOTE=Benjamin Be]Top town which every driver knows, ask them drop you off at top town cost $1 from Pub st, then walk up about 150 m then turn right to the first crossing st, further walk about 50m then you will find 6-7 places along the st. The women are sitting outside the house when you walk pass they will ask you "massage? " then you tell them boom boom? They will ask for 20 and you insist on 5 and prepare to walk away, most of them would say yes, all viets, qulity and service are very average and rooms are ok with fan only could be very hot but only 5 dollars what else you can expect.
I went there at around 6-7pm each time, yes its a dark st but I do not feel unsafe. But again don't go there too late, also don't know the scene during the day, too busy to do the temples.
Good luck everyone and have a good time while you staying at siem reap[/QUOTE]
Thanks Ben - glad I asked... just to clarify for dense guys like me... Top Town is on a side road off the main road... do you mean go down the little road that Top Town is on an additional 150 yards; i.e., this isn't 150 yards further down the main road before you would turn off to go to Top Town, right?
[QUOTE=Zingadoon]Plane,
You recollect the name of your hotel? Heading over from Thailand next week, looking for lodging, and the Agoda hotel descriptions do not include this 'room service' info.
Best[/QUOTE]
pm me for the info
[QUOTE=Stew2]Thanks Ben. Glad I asked. Just to clarify for dense guys like me. Top Town is on a side road off the main road. Do you mean go down the little road that Top Town is on an additional 150 yards; I. E., this isn't 150 yards further down the main road before you would turn off to go to Top Town, right?[/QUOTE]Top Town shall be on the right side of the road then walk up and turn right.
[QUOTE=D Cups]Hi BB, any o 'em have a nice rack? Bigger the better (for me, anyway :)
I may go to PP and Angor Wat next year and awant to do some pre-planning. Thanks.[/QUOTE]You meant this year or 2011, otherwise a bit early for planing, don; t you think
I had 2 out 7 or 8 (can't remember) with bigger rack (Cambodian standard). By the way I love bigger girls too.
Visited in October. Had so much fun I never took the time to write a report. Great place, cheap, party town. This is what I recollect through the fog of exhaustion and alcohol.
(1) Sok San Disco/massage
15 to 20 really nice young girls in sexy outfits and sometimes dancing on stage. Nice atmosphere/vibe inside. Good service. Strip clubbish without the the stripping, just dancing. Fabulously cheap ($2 - $3 for whiskey coke I think and same for the girly drinks). Go in, have the three nicest girls in the club site and dance for you, enjoy. Sex and BJ available onsite or takeway.
(2) Blue wave
Walked in. Seemed dead. 3 tired old ladies. Left.
(3) Dream World
Karaoke place and I'm told extra services as well (though be specific about your intents to avoid disappointment). 30 to 40 great young ladies to choose from. Closes early-ish like midnight or 1
There were long queues that hardly moved for people with e-visas - maybe better to stick with old system where your passport whizzes between about half a dozen officials and ends up with a paper one.
The money exchange counter was offering a phone chip/sim as routine.
Hello, fellow members, I'll be arriving in Siem Reap in another week's time.
And I would like to double check some information that I gathered on the forum.
There's the local Bar/Disco/Fishbowls which costs vary a little? 30-50$ for St, and 40-60$ LT?
Street Brothels, is it safe to wonder around at night to visit these on my own? Or best to take a Tuk Tuk there?
And prices. I've seen posts with $5, and some even asking for $35. Which is accurate?
And there are very little posts on SW? Any of that going on?
I see that the bar's have bar girls available for it seems to depend on customer and the girl. So very random in this department it seems.
I'm staying at the Angkor Riviera for the first 2 nights. And willing to reloacte to more convenient locations.
Please give me a confirmation on these locations/results. As I would really hate to overpay and ruin everybody's prices in the future.
Thank you!
Hi there HappyTimes.
>There's the local Bar/Disco/Fishbowls which costs vary a little? 30-50$ for St, and 40-60$ LT?
They vary, but that's a reasonable guide.
>Street Brothels, is it safe to wonder around at night to visit these on my own? Or best to take a Tuk Tuk there?
You maybe mean the Viet brothels near Zone One. Yes, it's safe, and walking distance. But you might want to take a tuktuk or moto (small motorbike) first time so you know where you're going. And also cos some areas can look more dodgy than they are. Siem Reap on the whole is very safe - more so than the rest of the country IMO.
>And prices. I've seen posts with $5, and some even asking for $35. Which is accurate?
The Viet brothels start at silly prices for locals but will try to charge gringos more. Stick to something reasonable (say $10 or thereabouts) until one accepts - but bear in mind service may be pretty rubbish. Outside of these places it depends on venue. Blue Wave is currently $20. SokSan and Dreamworld are at the other end and pricier. (Still cheap by 'our standards' but service and even quality of girls is not necessarily high).
>And there are very little posts on SW? Any of that going on?
Less activity than a year or so ago - late at night one would see ladyboys so watch out ('good looking' at a distance and tend to speak with an unnaturally high-voiced lisp.) But you get genuine girls in the one or two bars - Zanzybar is a monger bar, mostly low quality looking girls, tho you might find an an occasionable do-able. Temple Bar has better quality but you'd look like a perv (most of Temple is trendy backpacker couples etc, with small enclaves of working girls, mostly playing pool or trying to grab single guys.) Prices negotiable but closer to the top end quoted.
>I see that the bar's have bar girls available for it seems to depend on customer and the girl. So very random in this department it seems.
Not so much random, as very few bars. SR is not a monger city. The main venues or types of venue listed are all quite different. You will occasionally get a working girl in a non-monger venue but these 'spoiled/fallen women' (as their culture sadly labels them) can be quite reticent. Getting a quality experience, yes, relies quite a bit on luck and chemistry in my limited experience.
Cambodia is forever 'cracking down' on prostitution in recent times. The governor of SR boasted a couple of weeks ago that his city doesn't have any if the raunchy sex-on-display bars that PP is credited with. I resisted the temptation to offer to show him round. ;)
>I'm staying at the Angkor Riviera for the first 2 nights. And willing to reloacte to more convenient locations.
It's an ok location if I remember correctly. Walking distance to most places, near the post office, and not in the middle of the noisy night life. I've stayed quite close to there (both more expensive and less expensive places) so PM me if you fancy other suggestions. I think booking in for two nights is an excellent strategy. Once you get the feel of the place, the layout, and maybe your $3 cello-wrapped Lonely Planet, it's easier to decide where you want to be and what you want to be doing.
>Thank you!
Hope it helps.*
[I] ps presumably you are not just there for mongering - the other activities can be far more challenging and overwhelming (unless you just submit to being ferried about and told what to do by your hotel). PM me if you want to ask for clues on non P4P and I'll try to answer.[/I]
Thank you very much for your detailed answer Christopherd, greatly appreciate the detailed answer to each question I had.
I will definitely check out as much venues as I can and report back but since I'll only be there for 5 days my time is quite limited. During the days I plan to visit the Angkor Temples for good clean take-home-to-show-family-and-friends fun, and nights... well, anytime during or after clean fun I would like to get a load off. (I'm on vacation!)
Are there activity booths set up in the area like in they do in Thailand? Where I can browse through a bunch of brochures and find the activity I want and sign up to have them pick me up the next day at my hotel.
Also I remembered reading somewhere that Cambodian ladyboys unlike Thailand ones don't have breast implants... so wouldn't they just be guys with make up and in a dress?
Will be arriving in 2 days~ feeling the excitement!
[QUOTE=Happytimes]Thank you very much for your detailed answer Christopherd, greatly appreciate the detailed answer to each question I had.
I will definitely check out as much venues as I can and report back but since I'll only be there for 5 days my time is quite limited. During the days I plan to visit the Angkor Temples for good clean take-home-to-show-family-and-friends fun, and nights... well, anytime during or after clean fun I would like to get a load off. (I'm on vacation!)
Are there activity booths set up in the area like in they do in Thailand? Where I can browse through a bunch of brochures and find the activity I want and sign up to have them pick me up the next day at my hotel.
Also I remembered reading somewhere that Cambodian ladyboys unlike Thailand ones don't have breast implants... so wouldn't they just be guys with make up and in a dress?
Will be arriving in 2 days~ feeling the excitement![/QUOTE]
Sorry - I don't check the thread too often. You are there now, so many of your questions will probably have been answered. PM me if anything urgent.
[QUOTE=Christopherd]There were long queues that hardly moved for people with e-visas. Maybe better to stick with old system where your passport whizzes between about half a dozen officials and ends up with a paper one.
The money exchange counter was offering a phone chip/sim as routine.[/QUOTE]And where the 6 goodly fellows have fun by throwing everyones passports around like pieces of garbage.
I gave one fellow a gobful in a European language I'm sure he didn't understand as he managed to throw my passport on the floor TWICE. Disrespectful bastards.
[QUOTE=Christopherd]There were long queues that hardly moved for people with e-visas - maybe better to stick with old system where your passport whizzes between about half a dozen officials and ends up with a paper one.
The money exchange counter was offering a phone chip/sim as routine.[/QUOTE]
Don't understand this. We were a third of the way back in the flight, and when we got to immigration, people were frantically scribbling away on their visa application forms. With our evisas we walked right up to the immigration counter (all of them seemed to take evisas) and watched the officer take 10 minutes to stam all the pieces of paper. So while it slows down the line for the people behind, having evisas saved us 30 minutes a least on arrival...
Does the e-visa still take up a full page in your passport?
[QUOTE=Evianist]Does the e-visa still take up a full page in your passport?[/QUOTE]
no. aside from a small line under the regular entry stamp it takes no extra space. You save a full page which is important for expats.
[QUOTE=FriendlyPlanet]Don't understand this. We were a third of the way back in the flight, and when we got to immigration, people were frantically scribbling away on their visa application forms. With our evisas we walked right up to the immigration counter (all of them seemed to take evisas) and watched the officer take 10 minutes to stam all the pieces of paper. So while it slows down the line for the people behind, having evisas saved us 30 minutes a least on arrival...[/QUOTE]
I used an E-Visa crossing from Poipet, and the smirking immigration officials seeing that I had an E-Visa made me wait maybe 45 minutes while laborers with a 100 THB bribe were shuffled before me in the queue. I would have paid the 100 THB bribe so as not to have stand 45 minutes. I guess the E-Visa removes the oppurtunity for bribes? But we pay one way or the other, in my case, I paid in weariness.
[QUOTE=Thaifun]no. aside from a small line under the regular entry stamp it takes no extra space. You save a full page which is important for expats.[/QUOTE]
Actually expats have a yearly bussiness visa that allows multiple entries. This is only available as a one page sticker visa. Not all the border crossings accept the evisa and again this is not good for expats. I have crossed at every border crossing in Cambodia. Some are very remote.
The evisa is really only for tourists.
[QUOTE=Deal Seeker]I used an E-Visa crossing from Poipet, and the smirking immigration officials seeing that I had an E-Visa made me wait maybe 45 minutes while laborers with a 100 THB bribe were shuffled before me in the queue.[/QUOTE]
So at Poipet, there are separate lines for e-visas and regular immigration? Both Siem Reap and Phnom Penh had most or all the immigration lines marked "e-visa/immigration", so the same line for both. And, no- the immigration officer would have been glad to take your 100B bribe to expedite your way through- the emigration officer at the airport today asked me for a bribe, even though everything was in order with my passport and visa...
[QUOTE=Shadow6491]Actually expats have a yearly bussiness visa that allows multiple entries...[/QUOTE]
Shadow, I think Thaifun was talking about all of us expats who live in Asia, and travel a lot- between the Indo and other visas that all take up a page, I'm lucky if a passport lasts me two years, even with extensions.
So the e-visa is a great convenience and space saver, and like I said below, saved me a lot of time at the Siem Reap immigration. Good to know it does not work well at any of the land crossings, but with all the LCC's, doubt I'll be going overland anytime soon...
Friendly
Tried to find the viet brothels near top town.
Went 150M further up the road past top town, there was a crossing path where you could turn right or left.
I turned right, and went down another 50 yards. The path seemed to dead end into a house and an open field.
I walked around for a little while, but could find nothing like these brothels. I was there around 4:30 pm, so maybe too early?
Can anyone who knows them post more specific instructions?
Thanks in advance,
Friendly
[QUOTE=FriendlyPlanet]Tried to find the viet brothels near top town.
Went 150M further up the road past top town, there was a crossing path where you could turn right or left.
I turned right, and went down another 50 yards. The path seemed to dead end into a house and an open field.
I walked around for a little while, but could find nothing like these brothels. I was there around 4:30 pm, so maybe too early?
Can anyone who knows them post more specific instructions?
Thanks in advance,
Friendly[/QUOTE]
Try the ones near Zone One instead. Try late at night. (see earlier posts.)
[QUOTE=FriendlyPlanet]So at Poipet, there are separate lines for e-visas and regular immigration? Both Siem Reap and Phnom Penh had most or all the immigration lines marked "e-visa/immigration", so the same line for both. And, no- the immigration officer would have been glad to take your 100B bribe to expedite your way through- the emigration officer at the airport today asked me for a bribe, even though everything was in order with my passport and visa...
[/QUOTE]
To answer your question, no, when I went there was one line, and they waved people (migrant laborers) ahead of me in the queue (land crossing). Of course, things may have changed since I visited. I flew back to Thailand from Phnom Penh and I was not asked for a bribe.
I think, it's Cambodia, rules can change just like that. They changed even while I was in the airport. I eventually got shown through the 'VIP and Officials' line or whatever it's called. I'd just say, keep an eye on how the dice roll and roll with 'em. It's usually not sinister IMO - at least at SR (border scams might be different). Have been thru much worse airports. Clark in Philippines reminded me of a holding cell. Doha they list everybody's passports and a gringo eventually grabbed them and took over. A small bribe, given properly, at Delhi and you could smuggle sheep on board. Cambo just runs on cambo-time clocks.
Hi,
I was this week looking for Girls near the TOP TOWN. But I could not find anything except the expensive Top Town. I've asked a tuk tuk driver, but he said there is nothing here. I do not know if this is true but am now really curious now whether or not something is happening and whether we are wrong to look. The whole area is redesigned and there is much new construction.
Like useful tips and other neighborhoods outside the center.
Regards
[QUOTE=Plane Guy]This was my third trip to semi reap. Love this place, but prices have steadily risen but good action for $5 to $10. Lots of reports here outlining the scene. I have never had a problem with bring a girl back to a room in Asia. All hotels are girl friendly.
Asked one of the guys at front desk to arrange a in room massage. Great looking girl arrives, good massage, but no action, $10 a hour. Next night I tried again, ask for massage and bang bang, girl fom a different massage shop shows up, the t-shirt was a different color and no phone number on the back, just # 30. Massage was as good as the night before, girl as good looking, said she was 22, and damages were a little more. She was hesitant in doing yum yum, but did ok job, just ok, after some discussion. Started mish, then cowboy and reverse cowboy, finished doggie. Damages: $10 an hour for the massage, $ 10 for the bang bang (asked for 10, and I didn't argue) total $20 for about 2 hours. What can I say, great room service, why go on a walk-a-round or pay a tuk tuk driver? Next morning he asked if I wanted massage tonight. I say sure, same girl ok he says. I said sure. Gave the guy at front desk a $5 tip and a big smile and thank you, as I departed the following morning. Wish I had tired this before.[/QUOTE]Hi,
Which hotel did you stay in?
Most hotels are GF. But not all. The notice, 'We dress up in black hoods and burn mongers at the stake at midnight' is a bit of a giveaway. But even if you avoid those who make no secret of being part of a prohibitionist campaign, there are many hotels that have a great vibe and it's non-mongering. It can be a juggling act if you want to hang out with non-mongers, chat up tourists etc, then be seen taking some sweet paid-for Khmer Kunny back, or having her screwing up your street cred in the morning.
The 'send a massage to mein room' trick works quite well.* In Battambang, I'd just be up front and negotiate a girl for the night with the bellboy. But Siem Reap calls for more finesse (usually). As the previous poster explained rather subtly, you can communicate your wishes by just giving a thumbs up to the masseuse that gave the required service.
Probably doesn't work if the hotel has its own spa. ;)
Thank goodness for creativity.
[I]btw I've paid as little as $6 an hour for the basic massage delivered bybthd hotel. It rather maybe depends on the hotel and what they feel like charging you / what looks appropriate against their rates.
However see [URL="http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=1005933&postcount=2582"]this[/URL] post in the PP thread.
[/I]
Was in SR for a day. After a day of templing, went to Blue wave bar, took this girl named Som. She is 30 years old, C cup breast, very GFE service, BBBJ,DATY etc but did not try anal. Total cost $20 for ST+$5 barfine+$2 drink, total $27. I gave her $5 tip for excellent service.
She does not allow nude pics. Quality of pics are not good as they were taken with my cell phone.
Som offered to come to my hotel after the bar closing at 2 am, I declined as I had to take an early morning bus to PP.
kamking 1 -- What a honey!
Hi,
I was in Blue Wave also and the girls where very friendly. I take one girl for ladydrink (1 dollar extra) and she was touching me everywhere. I could feel she don't where anything under here short so it was a hot drink. I take here to a room nearby. It was a great hour. The girl from the photo was there too. Maybe next time. Wh know a girl in SR who likes anal?
Maybe it is a good idear to make a map of SR with all the hot places who are difficult to find. So not the bars in pubstreet and blue wave
But the chickenfarms ousite the center!
Many people ask and can not find. So am I.
Thank you
[QUOTE=Spijker Broek]Hi,
I was in Blue Wave also and the girls where very friendly. I take one girl for ladydrink (1 dollar extra) and she was touching me everywhere. I could feel she don't where anything under here short so it was a hot drink. I take here to a room nearby. It was a great hour. The girl from the photo was there too. Maybe next time. Wh know a girl in SR who likes anal?
Maybe it is a good idear to make a map of SR with all the hot places who are difficult to find. So not the bars in pubstreet and blue wave
But the chickenfarms ousite the center!
Many people ask and can not find. So am I.
Thank you[/QUOTE]
I LOVE CAMBODIA.
I was in S.R. for 4 days---visited the temples for two and roamed around the other two. Found terrific action on all four nights.
It seems that everybody is selling a single guy pussy on Pub Street. Most are the moto guys who want to take you someplace. Some might be scams other not..who knows...I was done by the time I got to Pub Street.
My method was to look around for a tuk-tuk driver. Stop by and chat him up a bit, see how his English was and see how we "got along" and if he seemed like a crook or a decent guy. When I established that he was someone I was willing to trust myself to for a ride to who knows where, I negotiated a price ($3-5) and told him I DIDN'T WANT TO GO TO TOP TOWN (rip-off at $50 just to take a girl out) and I wanted to go to a "small place" for "boom-boom".
I tried out three drivers during my stay and they all knew, more or less the same places, little hole in the wall spots, in odd places off the main road. Most had 4-5 young girls (mostly hot looking, 18-25 year old, spinners, kymer and viet, tight, smooth skin, clean, etc.) waiting, all eager and ready for a romp. They all asked for $30 for ST (2 hours) and I offered $20 and got it without any argument.
The next step was to go to a guest house the driver knew. I found one that was absolutely clean, air-conditioned and perfect for short-term use...for $10. This was the daily price BTW, so I could use it twice in a night if I wanted to (which I did!)
The girls were friendly, smiling and willing to do everything except anal. All positions covered, CBJ, etc. Spent our time together, left to meet the driver who was waiting patiently outside as part of his fee, took the girl back to where we found her....and went onto the next adventure.
These places are all in the same area, about 10 minutes max from Pub Street, the guest houses are in the same area.
So...the way I managed was to pay the $3-5 to the tuk-tuk driver and let him chauffeur me around. I never really knew where the places where, they were all off the main road and down dark alleys. I trusted it the first night while praying I wouldn't be robbed and beaten and/or killed, but after that first leap of faith, I got comfortable with the process and enjoyed the girls a lot! All were close to GFE, if not actual GFE. No complaints at all.
MY SUGGESTION: Leave the driving to your tuk-tuk guy and let him earn a few bucks.
TOTAL COST: 5 Tuk-Tuk
20 Girl
10 Room
35 TOTAL (WORTH IT)\
#2128
Is the Meridien GF?
[QUOTE=Pita123]Is the Meridien GF?[/QUOTE]
Blimey, you like to push the envelope, don't you? :rolleyes: ;)
I haven't 'tested' it, though I have eaten in the stunning restaurant more than once and sometimes in company. If you take a two-bit tramp from Pub Street back there, you are probably going to feel distinctly uncomfortable walking past the doorman. You could eat your breakfast off the floor of that place, it's that classy (there are many classy hotels in SR but not all as close to the action).
So if you pick up a skankiesuckcutie from Blue Wave (which you can probably see from your Meridien bedroom window if it is south-facing), ask yourself this:
[i]Does she look like she could be a guest here, or does she look like a skankiesuckcutie that's leading me round by the testosterone-shaped extrusion in my wallet pocket?[/i]
I'd take a posh girl back there. Smuggling a skankiesuckcutie might depend on the doorman. They can be a bit rule-bound. I've been asked to move from the floating-hammock table section of the restaurant cos they wanted to close that bit and they wouldn't budge. If I was that keen to take my skankiesuckcuties back, I'd just ask when I was booking, simple as that. (Only call them 'my friend' rather than skankiesuckcutefeck and ask if the rate is for the room or per person - "Do I have to pay a premium if my friend is able to join me?") Good luck!
I was in Siem Reap in January 2010 and I’d like to write a brief report about my short holiday spent here. I was coming from Pattaya, mainly for going to Angkor Wat temples, but the attraction for Cambodian girls were too high and I wanted to taste some of them before coming back to Thailand. I was here only for two days, so forgive me if my report is not complete or contains some mistakes; in this case, please tell me what’s wrong.
I found that nightlife was concentrated in the area of Pub Street, near the Old Market, with many bars and clubs open till 4 am. There's also some movement in Wat Bo, along the river road and in Sivatha Blvd. Clubs like Zone One and Sok San are open from 10:00 to 2:00-3:00.
In Siem Reap I didn’t find Thai-style bar. This place is a very lively town, with a heart full of tourists and locals, but I could easily find girls only located in 3 different places:
1) dancing clubs: I found them rather brothels, then clubs where people could dance! The first night a tuk-tuk driver took me in one of this disco, and I found a breathtaking Cambodian with slightly dark skin, very nice and elegant. She drove me crazy, and She was worth: 60 USD$ for long time, a lot of money, but I was happy for a great performance with FK, DATY, 69, BBBJ, fucking in many positions and then CIM;
2) night clubs or brothels: they are quite hidden and practically impossible to reach if you’re alone, but for tuk-tuk drivers are very familiar. Prices vary according to girls age. At the first time the tuk-tuk driver took me to a place where the girls were, at least in my opinion, dangerously teenagers, on the borderline 17-18 years, and with prices from 60 USD$ for short time (with rooms in the club) and 70 USD$ for long time (if you take the girl to your room). At my express request to go to a brothel where the girls were safely adults (eighteen up), the driver told me that the price could lower to 40-50 USD$. A lot of money, anyway!;
3) freelancers: the second day me and my friend had known two pussies along Pub streeet, the main street of Siem Reap. I couldn’t see many freelancer around the center, but the few ones were easily recognizable at the eyes of mongers. Some of them have a room in town, but I think it is highly advisable to avoid this experience and go directly to your hotel. I’ve spent 30 USD$ for a Laotian, pretty enough and with two magnificent breasts. The performance quality was very poor: She was in a hurry, no FK, no DATY, only BBBJ and professional behaviour. Better forget it!
Note: at the prices above I might add 10 USD$ for tip at the front desk, each time I took the lady in the room.
In conclusion, in this brief visit I found Siem Reap is not a paradise for mongers. There’s something to do, but only a pleasant diversion from the days spent in the midst of the magnificent ruins of Khmer empire. Prices are high because there's a negative imbalance between supply and demand: Phnom Penh, Poipet and Sinhoukville are certainly better destinations for sex holidays.
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[QUOTE=Christopherd] If you take a two-bit tramp from Pub Street back there, you are probably going to feel distinctly uncomfortable walking past the doorman. [/QUOTE]
I don't feel uncomfortable doing this in Bangkok. Is it different in Cambodia?
[QUOTE=Pita123]I don't feel uncomfortable doing this in Bangkok. Is it different in Cambodia?[/QUOTE]
I'm not sure. Thais and Thai ways are far more sophisticated. Cambodians are still making it up as they go along. ;)
[quote=vale64]phnom penh, poipet and sinhoukville are certainly better destinations for sex holidays.[/quote] you're probably right. a couple of tourists the other month in sr, poring over their map on the banks of the river, asked me if there was much difference between sr and other places in cambodia.
i replied, "yes there is! siem reap's nice!"
of course, the tuktuk driver fell about laughing. you don't go to sr primarily for mongering. but apart from the hidden temples and other cultural wonders, it's safe, relatively clean, compact, cheap enough, and people getting mugged, raped and murdered isn't the fact if life that it is elsewhere in cambodia. i could happily live there i think. the pussy isn't spectacular. but sufficient. and less pricey of course than in the west.
[QUOTE=Christopherd]There were long queues that hardly moved for people with e-visas - maybe better to stick with old system where your passport whizzes between about half a dozen officials and ends up with a paper one.
The money exchange counter was offering a phone chip/sim as routine.[/QUOTE]Can you help me on the location of that Viet brothel?
Been reading the threads and its seems that Phnom Penh is dieing. Plus the more I read the threads the more I think sorry to generalize that the mongers posting are a (little older than me and less picky)-this is just from the reports and mean no disrespect.
I have 4 nights I fly into Siem Reap(although sounds as if there are slim pickings here) and just want to relax get my balls shined have some smoke. So any suggestions
Phnom Penh or just stick to Siem Reap?
Is Phnom Penn really on its last legs?
Is Martini's still closed?
Whats the general scene I read 14 pages on PP and it just looks worse and worse the more you read.
[QUOTE=Dabboy]Can you help me on the location of that Viet brothel?[/QUOTE]
I'm not sure that I should [i] especially as you don't appear to RTFF)[/i] ;) but . . . :
Walk or take a moto to ZONE ONE and then ignore Zone One and check out the illegal brothels on either side. Some are brightly lit and obvious. Some you just go down an alley and look for the action (girls making it obvious they are interested or sleazy young Cambodian guys checking you out and letting you in).
To get to the Zone One area, walk north along Sivutha from Old Market and turn left at the big Hotel de la Paix. Take the second right and carry on a hundred yards or so. Zone One is a big night club complex on the right (you’ll see lots of young trendies pulling up on motorbikes). A little further on as it starts to look distinctly 'dodgy' are the alleyways with (mostly viet) brothels.
Some are ok looks wise. But as I have said many times, don't go to SR for the pussy - even less so if you are feeling 'picky.' At best, if you are young or reasonably good looking and sociable, just chat up tourists in the Pub Street bars. Much less hassle.
If you want cheap good-looking women at low cost and that's all you want, fly to Manila, walk into LA Cafe, pick a girl, take her to hotel, have sex. Repeat as often as necessary. There's not much else to do in Manila.
On the other hand, Siem Reap is one of the most awesome destinations on the planet. Having at least [i]some[/i] pussy available makes all the temple trawling more bearable. :D
[QUOTE=Dabboy]Been reading the threads and its seems that Phnom Penh is dieing. Plus the more I read the threads the more I think sorry to generalize that the mongers posting are a (little older than me and less picky)-this is just from the reports and mean no disrespect.
I have 4 nights I fly into Siem Reap(although sounds as if there are slim pickings here) and just want to relax get my balls shined have some smoke. So any suggestions
Phnom Penh or just stick to Siem Reap?
Is Phnom Penn really on its last legs?
Is Martini's still closed?
Whats the general scene I read 14 pages on PP and it just looks worse and worse the more you read.[/QUOTE]If you are not picky no problem to get laid cheap anywhere in Cambo, you are very right most posters on Cambo are older (read past 40, many including myself past 50) Martini open again since about 3 weeks I think, but here as wel as Sharky bar there is virtually no quality, but I do not care as I only want PERFORMANCE. Looks don't matter to me. I was introduced to a very beatiful girl last night and against my thought I took her to my house, performance was ok with great great blowjob, she did what she had to do, but man oh man was this girl ICE COLD. As I expected. The so called non-lookers at least give you the IMPRESSION they are enjoying.
As far as I can see all massage parlors are still closed and the government continue their crackdown, even in 'private'apartments.
Mikado closed for about 3 weeks now but Le Cyrcee still open.
You can always find a good looking girls in the bars on street 104, 136 and streets between these. Expect barfine and higher prices then in the freelancer places like Martine/Sharky
The Walkabout looks pretty quiet to me lately, they have now a new hotel next to it with apparant hight rate rooms, wonder how much longer the bar itself is going to exsist under present management. And if you want to talk about low quality girls, you can find it there, and cheap (10 bucks st).
Now also, since the crackdown, I see much much more streetwalkers, some evenings the city is flooded with them, but for exemple yesterday some úsual'places where they can be found were very very quiet. Strange.
Very difficult to explain exactly where they all are, but for exemple if you would turn your back to street 104 with the river at your back, just walk straight to the park slightly on the left of the streeet and walk up to Monivong Boulevard, especially at the end where it is pitch dark they are wating, but carefully!
Remarkable also was that a few nights ago what Phnom was almost deserted, otherwise day and night flooded with hookers, here also, again, carefully! Robbers and Minors.
In Siem Reap, if you walk around evening time and pass all these massage parlors, just gentle chat with the girls outside, tell them quietly what you are looking for, give them card of your hotel and they will come and give you what you want. A 20 dollar bill is doing real wonders here.
Up to you. Good luck to you all.
[quote=camboblowshooter]In Siem Reap, if you walk around evening time and pass all these massage parlors, just gentle chat with the girls outside, tell them quietly what you are looking for, give them card of your hotel and they will come and give you what you want. A 20 dollar bill is doing real wonders here.[/quote]
Nicely put, blowshooter. Discretion for these 'respectable' women is everything. And while any of them will come back to the hotel for a massage, the best looking ones may not always be mesmerised by $20 from the average punter. A lot of them are desperately chasing non-monger tourists to earn a normal living. But with so many massage girls, the alternative options beckon.
$20 is reasonable for full service (sex) and $6 for a straight massage. But I've had many different reactions outside of that. One girl, with whom I had sex with on the premises, was very upset that I tried to pay her for sex and I quickly reassured her that the extra was a tip for the good massage she'd given me first (ie she is not s prostitute in her mind, she just liked me). Another very pretty girl spent a long time saying she wouldn't do anything but a hand job, then caved in at "$100" - which I told her was frankly ridiculous. A lot of them don't have a clue.
I'm just adding these notes in case any newbies might do a bull in a china shop. The Khmers, after all, frequently make a big deal about how massage, 'unlike in [I]Thailand[/I]' is not a front for prostitution. I've not met any massage girls in Siem Reap (in the massage places as opposed to the brothels) who would think of themselves as hookers. It is always an 'exception' which they no doubt erase from their mind soon afterwards so that they have not become fallen women. Suspension of disbelief is the touchstone of such a world.
[quote=christopherd]you don't go to sr primarily for mongering. but apart from the hidden temples and other cultural wonders, it's safe, relatively clean, compact, cheap enough, and people getting mugged, raped and murdered isn't the fact if life that it is elsewhere in cambodia. i could happily live there i think. the pussy isn't spectacular. but sufficient. and less pricey of course than in the west.[/quote]very good! this summer i'm planning to go in phnom penh, and will listen to your suggestion comparing this city to sr. i will read the appropriate thread on isg.
thank you.
[QUOTE=Christopherd]I'm not sure that I should [i] especially as you don't appear to RTFF)[/i] ;) but . . . :
Walk or take a moto to ZONE ONE and then ignore Zone One and check out the illegal brothels on either side. Some are brightly lit and obvious. Some you just go down an alley and look for the action (girls making it obvious they are interested or sleazy young Cambodian guys checking you out and letting you in).
To get to the Zone One area, walk north along Sivutha from Old Market and turn left at the big Hotel de la Paix. Take the second right and carry on a hundred yards or so. Zone One is a big night club complex on the right (you’ll see lots of young trendies pulling up on motorbikes). A little further on as it starts to look distinctly 'dodgy' are the alleyways with (mostly viet) brothels.
Some are ok looks wise. But as I have said many times, don't go to SR for the pussy - even less so if you are feeling 'picky.' At best, if you are young or reasonably good looking and sociable, just chat up tourists in the Pub Street bars. Much less hassle.
If you want cheap good-looking women at low cost and that's all you want, fly to Manila, walk into LA Cafe, pick a girl, take her to hotel, have sex. Repeat as often as necessary. There's not much else to do in Manila.
On the other hand, Siem Reap is one of the most awesome destinations on the planet. Having at least [i]some[/i] pussy available makes all the temple trawling more bearable. :D[/QUOTE]Ok for a first timer are they still cracking down on hookers and what the hell is that all about?
Also very familar with Manila but have tired of it. What about golf courses etc around PP and SR?
Thanks
[QUOTE=Doublebogey]Ok for a first timer are they still cracking down on hookers and what the hell is that all about?
Thanks[/QUOTE]
I was in SR about 4-5 months ago and there was no crackdown going on then, if there is now, then its something new. The brothels were untouched and from what I've seen, there was never a big selection of SW( hookers) to begin with in SR.
But if you posted this in the wrong thread - as I suspect you may have wanted this in PP, then the answer is Yes, there is a crackdown in PP as gov't wants a "cleaner image" for their beloved capital.
[QUOTE=Sharka]I was in SR about 4-5 months ago and there was no crackdown going on then, if there is now, then its something new. The brothels were untouched and from what I've seen, there was never a big selection of SW( hookers) to begin with in SR.
But if you posted this in the wrong thread - as I suspect you may have wanted this in PP, then the answer is Yes, there is a crackdown in PP as gov't wants a "cleaner image" for their beloved capital.[/QUOTE]Thanks for reply
The crackdown is country wide from snooky in the south to Ratanakiri in the NE to Palin. Poipet in the W.
[QUOTE=Shadow6491]The crackdown is country wide from snooky in the south to Ratanakiri in the NE to Palin. Poipet in the W.[/QUOTE]
Bummer, as I had hope SR would escape the crackdown with their very limited P4P scene to begin with.
Hello,
Going to Siem Reap soon, so need a nice hotel:
Which gf hotel would you recommend because I think at least one night mongering is ideal between whole day temple visits.
I like the thunborey hotel or the passagio. But are they gf?
I always enjoy siem riep, it has many opportunities.
It is more expensive than it should be but there are some lovely girls there.
Now I can speak reasonable khmer I believe that all women are available Here, there is certainly no discrimination against whities, unlike Thailand.
If only I was single again.
[QUOTE=Marrow]BTW, girls? LOL 99% if you see a pussy between the legs what you find is a boy operated in siem reap XD I was month in SR, the only real girl I rember was a muslim rich girl I met 3 times (I'm not muslim, relationship not doable, let's not mention about sex XD) Except if Trans was your taste, leave it. 2 days for the temple and go.[/QUOTE]Not really sure what to make of the message posted but seems to be a mix of meeting a rich muslim girl or meeting LBs or the muslim girl was an LB?
Just for the record, the several times I've been to SR: never met any muslim women (rich or poor) and the regular WL far outnumber the Trannies (LBs)
Shark
Does anyone know the current situation in Poipet?
Thinking of going there in the next few days maybe.
Anyone can recommend a decent hotel with internet access in the rooms and a girld-friendly attitude there?
I stay long time in SR and yes there are many ladyboy's but i am sure the most girls who are working here or want to meet a men for one or more nights :-) are real girls.
Can anyone recommend a hotel in SR that has in room safes? The cheaper the better and GF not important.
Many thanks!
[QUOTE=Adhome01]Can anyone recommend a hotel in SR that has in room safes? The cheaper the better and GF not important.
Many thanks![/QUOTE]
I quite like FCC, and the rooms are quite impressive, but it's maybe more than you want to pay.
Soria Maria is very comfortable and has room safes - I would not worry about my stuff there at all. They were happy when I checked in with my Khmer girl but not sure how they would like a different girl every night
[QUOTE=Adhome01]Can anyone recommend a hotel in SR that has in room safes? The cheaper the better and GF not important.
Many thanks![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Bubba999]Soria Maria is very comfortable and has room safes - I would not worry about my stuff there at all. They were happy when I checked in with my Khmer girl but not sure how they would like a different girl every night[/QUOTE]
Looks like a nice place with everything I'm looking for. I will check it out. Many thanks!
I will be in BKK and will be short on time. I want to take taxi to Aranyaprathet/ Poipet and then off to Siem Reap.
Can anyone suggest a taxi company for going from BKK to the border?
Thanks and happy hunting
[QUOTE=Fred Gold]I will be in BKK and will be short on time. I want to take taxi to Aranyaprathet/ Poipet and then off to Siem Reap.
Can anyone suggest a taxi company for going from BKK to the border?
Thanks and happy hunting[/QUOTE]
Unless you enjoy 6 hrs drive, I suggest using [url]www.bangkokair.com/[/url] , who have 4 daily flights BKK-REP at currently THB 7170.
And if you insist on going by road, take a bus. ca. THB 250 BKK Poipet.
GOOGLE for the taxi option.
[QUOTE=Fred Gold]I will be in BKK and will be short on time. I want to take taxi to Aranyaprathet/ Poipet and then off to Siem Reap. Can anyone suggest a taxi company for going from BKK to the border?
Thanks and happy hunting[/QUOTE]
You can go to just about any travel agency in BKK and inquire of the bus to Siam Reap. I strongly suggest that you fly as the road to Siam Reap is EXTREAMELY terrible. If you do take the bus don't change money along the way, wait until you get to Siam Reap. [url]www.Airasia.com[/url] Please fly!
Cheers,
Kid
[QUOTE=Kidgib9]You can go to just about any travel agency in BKK and inquire of the bus to Siam Reap. I strongly suggest that you fly as the road to Siam Reap is EXTREAMELY terrible. If you do take the bus don't change money along the way, wait until you get to Siam Reap. [url]www.Airasia.com[/url] Please fly!
Cheers,
Kid[/QUOTE]
While in total agreement w.r.t. the bus, roads and flying, be aware that AirAsia does NOT fly BKK to Siem Reap, only to PNH. And then you can choose between bus and ancient Russian-made hydrofoil to get to REP, both 4-6 hours with the latter horribly uncomfortable.
[QUOTE=Kidgib9]I strongly suggest that you fly as the road to Siam Reap is EXTREAMELY terrible.[/QUOTE]When did you do it? The condition of this road varies a lot, depending on season (worse of course during the rainy season) and maintenance (which may or may not be related to financial incentives from a certain airline that flies from SR to Bangkok). All I know is the last time I did it, around last new year's, it was a pretty good road. In fact it hasn't been totally terrible for a good two or three years now, AFAIK.
The main thing is not to get on one of the buses from hell -- the Khaosan Rd. specials for Lonely Planet people. You want the ordinary SR-Poipet aircon bus that all the Khmers take.
[QUOTE=Betong]Originally Posted by Kidgib9
I strongly suggest that you fly as the road to Siam Reap is EXTREAMELY terrible..[/QUOTE]
I drove from Siem Reap to PP this morning. The road was in very good condition, and it was an easy 4 hour drive.
Bule2004
Phnom Penh and Poipet -> SR aren't the same road. After Sway, it gets dusty with the red clay until the pavement picks up again outside SR (same in opposite direction, obviously)
PNH-SR by road is about 5 hours and the road is good (paved)
[QUOTE=Bule2004]I drove from Siem Reap to PP this morning. The road was in very good condition, and it was an easy 4 hour drive.
Bule2004[/QUOTE]
I assume that you drove your own car.Right? Any idea what the cost is by taxi?
Or more info on buses. Which company, cost, schedules etc. Any relevant site?
I've made my plans for a nine days second visit to PP and I consider a side trip to SP and/or Sihanoukville.
Thanks
[QUOTE=El Greco]Or more info on buses. Which company, cost, schedules etc. Any relevant site?
Thanks[/QUOTE]Greco,
The 2 main bus lines leaving PP for SR (or vis versa) is Sorya Transport-leaves from the main market in PP, about every hour or so until 2pm. Cost (at least the last time I used it) was about $6 one way.
The other is Mekong Express (a little more upscale and faster as it have less stops) departs from the river area, Sisowath Quay, every 2hrs or so until 2pm. Cost is about $10 one way.
Hope this helps.
[QUOTE=El Greco]I assume that you drove your own car.Right? Any idea what the cost is by taxi?
Or more info on buses. Which company, cost, schedules etc. Any relevant site?
I've made my plans for a nine days second visit to PP and I consider a side trip to SP and/or Sihanoukville.
Thanks[/QUOTE]
Sorya bus company was the one I usually use as it was the cheapest $5-6, but could take the longest as it sometimes make a few stops along the way.
Mekong bus would be a good alternate as it is more direct, makes almost no stops but cost a bit more (a whopping $10 or so). Not sure of any bus websites as it would be useless anyway as they mainly take cash to purchase. No problems booking a seat on the same day you plan to travel or play it safe and buy it the evening before--I've done both.
BTW: side trip to SP? where's that.= I'm assuming you meant SR.
Haven't been to Snooky for awhile now so interested in knowing what the current news is like, such as prices and quality. Please post or PM me with happenings in Sihanoukville.
Shark
[QUOTE=El Greco] Any idea what the cost is by taxi?
[/QUOTE]
Sorry, forgot to answer this part.
Cost of taxi is about $40-50 if you are the only rider. So, only worth it if you are with a few others traveling with you. Otherwise take the bus. Cheap and safe. Both takes about the same time anyway. Taxi maybe 30-40min faster.
When your bus arrives in SR, the bus station is way outside of town and this is where they drop your ass off but don't panic, your bus fare includes a free minivan transfer to your hotel in SR.
Enjoy
Shark
[QUOTE=Sharka]Sorry, forgot to answer this part.
Cost of taxi is about $40-50 if you are the only rider. So, only worth it if you are with a few others traveling with you. Otherwise take the bus. Cheap and safe. Both takes about the same time anyway. Taxi maybe 30-40min faster.
When your bus arrives in SR, the bus station is way outside of town and this is where they drop your ass off but don't panic, your bus fare includes a free minivan transfer to your hotel in SR.
Enjoy
Shark[/QUOTE]
Thank you very much for all the info Shark.
Yes I meant Siem Reap and no Sao Paolo (SP). lol
I just read the last 10 pages of reports on siem reap and there is no mention of GF friendly hotels. Any previous questions went unanswered, is this because of crackdowns by the authorities?
If anyone can help out, it would be appreciated and even better if the place had a pool to cool down during the hot afternoons?
I'm planning on being there sept 7-9th.
Thanks
[QUOTE=Madraz]I just read the last 10 pages of reports on siem reap and there is no mention of GF friendly hotels. Any previous questions went unanswered, is this because of crackdowns by the authorities?
If anyone can help out, it would be appreciated and even better if the place had a pool to cool down during the hot afternoons?
I'm planning on being there sept 7-9th.
Thanks[/QUOTE]Madraz,
I am sure most hotel in SR is GF maybe some of the 5 star place cater to family is not, the place I stay at golden orange staff there offer me girl for 40 USD for LT.
Fast Eddie 48
[QUOTE=Sharka]
.
When your bus arrives in SR, the bus station is way outside of town and this is where they drop your ass off but don't panic, your bus fare includes a free minivan transfer to your hotel in SR.
Shark[/QUOTE]Greco,
Sharka is correct as this was also the offer when I went by bus from PP, but always ask if transfer to your hotel is included as this may now need another coupon to hand to minivan/minibus driver upon arrival. Just to be on the safe side and ask as I heard sometimes this is forgotten and some have complain they were left stranded at the bus depot outside of town and had to rely on motobikes to take them to hotel (with luggage in tow).
FZ
I will probably stay at the Golden Orange, but - what to check out Golden Banana,The Kool Hotel, Soria Moria Boutique Hotel or Tara Angkor.
Any info on the places and whether gf would be appreciated!!!
Any suggestions as to where to stay for being within easy walking distance from bars, etc
THX
[QUOTE=Fred Gold]I will probably stay at the Golden Orange, but - what to check out Golden Banana,The Kool Hotel, Soria Moria Boutique Hotel or Tara Angkor.
Any info on the places and whether gf would be appreciated!!!
Any suggestions as to where to stay for being within easy walking distance from bars, etc
THX[/QUOTE]
[url=http://www.goldenorangehotel.com/]Golden Orange[/url] is in a nice area, well-appointed, and the owner is a decent bloke, well tuned to mongering requirements. But it is not easy walking to the main nightlife and bars.
Does anyone have experience with Bangkok Air between BKK and REP in terms of their excess baggage costs. They seem to allow only 1 piece of carry on luggage not to excess 5kg. I have more and they say they charge about 100THB per kg.
Anyone have experience with them in terms of baggage?
[QUOTE=Fred Gold]Does anyone have experience with Bangkok Air between BKK and REP in terms of their excess baggage costs. They seem to allow only 1 piece of carry on luggage not to excess 5kg. I have more and they say they charge about 100THB per kg.
Anyone have experience with them in terms of baggage?[/QUOTE]I did it a couple of years ago with a small backpack in which I had an SLR camera, 2 lenses and a laptop, suspect I was around 7KG+ and nobody said anything.
[QUOTE=Kidgib9]You can go to just about any travel agency in BKK and inquire of the bus to Siam Reap. I strongly suggest that you fly as the road to Siam Reap is EXTREAMELY terrible. If you do take the bus don't change money along the way, wait until you get to Siam Reap. [url]www.Airasia.com[/url] Please fly!
Cheers,
Kid[/QUOTE]Kid.
Totally incorrect information. I have been from BKK to Siem Reap three times this year by ROAD. First time, I went with a mate and we drove to the border. Silly, as his wife had to drive all the way back to BKK.
On my second and third trips, I took the 5:00AM bus from MOCHIT bus station in BKK. Bought my ticket 212 baht from BLUE COUNTER # 31, and took the bus from gate #121. It takes 5 hours and takes you all the way to the market at the border. You walk across the border, and try to avoid all the touts who want to fill out forms for you and carry your baggage. I also did visa on line as it was more convenient.
After I had my Cambodian entry stamped in the passport, I walked up to the place where you take a bus to the taxi station. Last time, I ended up getting a taxi from there to Siem Reap for US$45. 00 all the way to my hotel in SIem Reap. Took 2 hours.
So, 5 hours BKK to the border, allow 1 hour for all the messing around crossing, and two hours to Siem Reap. 8 hours in all for US$ 52. 00 or so. Fly for Baht 7, 000 on Bangkok Air. No way. Too expensive!
AIR ASIA does not fly from BKK to SIEM REAP
Road is perfect condition. Sealed all the way. No problems at all.
Do the reverse to get back to BKK from Siem Reap and you will pay US$35. 00 for the taxi, as they want some $$.
Don't be conned into taking a bus back to BKK. I did that last time, and it takes something like 11 hours from pickup in Siem Reap to actually arriving in BKK. (You also change bus at the border)
Hope this helps.
[QUOTE=Fred Gold]Does anyone have experience with Bangkok Air between BKK and REP in terms of their excess baggage costs. They seem to allow only 1 piece of carry on luggage not to excess 5kg. I have more and they say they charge about 100THB per kg.
Anyone have experience with them in terms of baggage?[/QUOTE]Fred,
I fly with Bangkok airway a few time service is great, this is not a discount airline one way SR to BKK 4 yr ago cost 109 USD very expensive not sure about the baggage I have only one carry on with me no charge maybe is not over 25 kg.
Fast Eddie 48
[QUOTE=Chuckn]Kid.
Totally incorrect information. I have been from BKK to Siem Reap three times this year by ROAD. First time, I went with a mate and we drove to the border. Silly, as his wife had to drive all the way back to BKK.
On my second and third trips, I took the 5:00AM bus from MOCHIT bus station in BKK. Bought my ticket 212 baht from BLUE COUNTER # 31, and took the bus from gate #121. It takes 5 hours and takes you all the way to the market at the border. You walk across the border, and try to avoid all the touts who want to fill out forms for you and carry your baggage. I also did visa on line as it was more convenient.
After I had my Cambodian entry stamped in the passport, I walked up to the place where you take a bus to the taxi station. Last time, I ended up getting a taxi from there to Siem Reap for US$45. 00 all the way to my hotel in SIem Reap. Took 2 hours.
So, 5 hours BKK to the border, allow 1 hour for all the messing around crossing, and two hours to Siem Reap. 8 hours in all for US$ 52. 00 or so. Fly for Baht 7, 000 on Bangkok Air. No way. Too expensive!
AIR ASIA does not fly from BKK to SIEM REAP
Road is perfect condition. Sealed all the way. No problems at all.
Do the reverse to get back to BKK from Siem Reap and you will pay US$35. 00 for the taxi, as they want some $$.
Don't be conned into taking a bus back to BKK. I did that last time, and it takes something like 11 hours from pickup in Siem Reap to actually arriving in BKK. (You also change bus at the border)
Hope this helps.[/QUOTE]
I wanted too experience how it was too travel by road between Seam Reap and Bangkok (mid August 2010).
I asked some travel agencies in Seam Reap about this and they all had the same story.
It will take you 2 hours from Seam Reap to the Cambodia/Thai border (Poi Pet), than 1 hour for border change followed by a 3 hours drive to Bangkok (Koh San Road).
Pick up from your Seam Reap hotel by minibus and depending on the number of passengers they will continuing with the minibus or change to a larger aircon bus.
I travelled on a mid week day (believe it was Wednesday) and the trip was totally done through mini busses (change from mini bus on the border).
In Cambodia the driver always drove more than 100 km where mostly 60 km is signed/allowed.
When he was stopped by a traffic control (I guess they used the only laser gun available in the country) he reacted very upset, both to us his passengers as to the Cambodia police people. When he returned to the bus he did not want to say how much his fine was and also not if he has to pay by himself or that he could declare by his employer (a big lack of English happened after he was fined).
The driver from the minbus from the Thai/Cambodia border to Bangkok was even more worse; he didn’t speak any English and he drove more than 120 km per hour (but in general Thai roads are much better). Only one stop for a army control.
Within 3 hours (including a stop for fuel and using the restrooms) he dropped me and two other passengers (for a tip) on the Sukhumvite area instead of Koh San road.
This all for US $ 11.00 !
[QUOTE=Fred Gold]I will probably stay at the Golden Orange, but - what to check out Golden Banana,The Kool Hotel, Soria Moria Boutique Hotel or Tara Angkor.
Any info on the places and whether gf would be appreciated!!!
Any suggestions as to where to stay for being within easy walking distance from bars, etc
THX[/QUOTE]
I stayed at the Tara Angkor (mid August) for more than a week.
It was not a problem to bring a girl in (even where it looks like the want to register but I moved them straight forward too the elevator of too the stairs).
And......a had a very positive expierence in the (internal) massage as well. One lady was willing to go tuther than only massage. She offered that I could book her to the room (that is normal she said). She didn't want to come to my room after fineshed work.
Some days later I visited also the massage and met her again. She looks always to the door (with a small windows in) but was willing to help me with her two hands!
Forget the walking distance from Tara Angkor too Pub Street. A tuk tuk will cost you (depending on time of the day and rainy or not) between 1 and 3 US $. They start standard with US 3 and you reply with US 1 and....end up with 1,5 (in local amount KHR/Riel 5.000 or 6.000) or US 2.
Note: take a room with one big (king) bed. As your travel alone they standard give you a room with two beds. For that reason I changed one day later (and they where very willing too help me with this).
Here some of the talent that you can find in Pub Street specially in Temple Bar (after 9 PM).
They ask US 30 or US 40 as starting point and you start with US 15 and find yourself on the end somewhere in the middle.
As they rather don’t speak/understand English (and I checked out many this time and also last year) it is helpful if you have a telephone with you (as you can type in the amount that you want to pay).
Pictures not a problem; English more than the standard questions and answers: forget it.
Last two times I've come from Singapore - REP and had a nice play in Geylang first, nice change from all the pressure of Thailand girls. I flew Silk Air which is a lovely airline and if you are flying into Singapore with Singapore Airlines you can combine. [i]Nice pics[/i]
[QUOTE=Somewhere15]I wanted too experience how it was too travel by road between Seam Reap and Bangkok (mid August 2010).
I asked some travel agencies in Seam Reap about this and they all had the same story.
It will take you 2 hours from Seam Reap to the Cambodia/Thai border (Poi Pet), than 1 hour for border change followed by a 3 hours drive to Bangkok (Koh San Road).
Pick up from your Seam Reap hotel by minibus and depending on the number of passengers they will continuing with the minibus or change to a larger aircon bus.
I travelled on a mid week day (believe it was Wednesday) and the trip was totally done through mini busses (change from mini bus on the border).
In Cambodia the driver always drove more than 100 km where mostly 60 km is signed/allowed.
When he was stopped by a traffic control (I guess they used the only laser gun available in the country) he reacted very upset, both to us his passengers as to the Cambodia police people. When he returned to the bus he did not want to say how much his fine was and also not if he has to pay by himself or that he could declare by his employer (a big lack of English happened after he was fined).
The driver from the minbus from the Thai/Cambodia border to Bangkok was even more worse; he didn't speak any English and he drove more than 120 km per hour (but in general Thai roads are much better). Only one stop for a army control.
Within 3 hours (including a stop for fuel and using the restrooms) he dropped me and two other passengers (for a tip) on the Sukhumvite area instead of Koh San road.
This all for US $ 11. 00![/QUOTE]I came back from Siem Reap to Bangkok two weeks ago. I had a taxi booked for 7:30AM, and my hotel suggested that I take a bus US$16. 00 for the trip.
Well, unfortunately for me, I did it. I saw $$$$ signs, and common sense went out the window.
Was picked up at 7:30AM by a Tuk Tuk and taken to a place where there were lots of toursist waiting (Guest house)
The 8; 00AM bus finally turned up, and we were all away by 8:20 AM. The bus never went over 60 km / hour for the first hour, and we stopped at the little town about 50km from Siem Reap, for the usual convenience stop so that everone could buy drinks etc.
Then we got going, and about 11:30 Am or so, we arrived at the bus / taxi terminal which is 8 km out of Poipet. A 30 minute lunch break turned into an hour or so, and I was finally standing at the passport control at the border at 1:00PM. After going through passport control and entering Thailand, we had to swap our WHITE STICKERS on our clothing for YELLOW STICKERS, then, we all marched about 300 meters to a waiting bus. Finally got going, and we went to another place to pick up more passengers.
We evertually arrived in BKK at Kao San Road at 6:15 PM. A whole 10 hours from when the bus started, and almost 11 hours from my hotel.
Never again. I also lost my Bose noise Cancellig head phones, so, that cheap bus trip was very expensive.
My advise to return to BKK. $35. 00 taxi, and the 212 baht bus that goes to Morchit Bus Terminal. It would have been much faster.
[QUOTE=Somewhere15]I wanted too experience how it was too travel by road between Seam Reap and Bangkok (mid August 2010).
I asked some travel agencies in Seam Reap about this and they all had the same story.
It will take you 2 hours from Seam Reap to the Cambodia/Thai border (Poi Pet), than 1 hour for border change followed by a 3 hours drive to Bangkok (Koh San Road).
Pick up from your Seam Reap hotel by minibus and depending on the number of passengers they will continuing with the minibus or change to a larger aircon bus.
I travelled on a mid week day (believe it was Wednesday) and the trip was totally done through mini busses (change from mini bus on the border).
In Cambodia the driver always drove more than 100 km where mostly 60 km is signed/allowed.
When he was stopped by a traffic control (I guess they used the only laser gun available in the country) he reacted very upset, both to us his passengers as to the Cambodia police people. When he returned to the bus he did not want to say how much his fine was and also not if he has to pay by himself or that he could declare by his employer (a big lack of English happened after he was fined).
The driver from the minbus from the Thai/Cambodia border to Bangkok was even more worse; he didn’t speak any English and he drove more than 120 km per hour (but in general Thai roads are much better). Only one stop for a army control.
Within 3 hours (including a stop for fuel and using the restrooms) he dropped me and two other passengers (for a tip) on the Sukhumvite area instead of Koh San road.
This all for US $ 11.00 ![/QUOTE]
Is it 6 hours total travel time? For $11 dollars U.S. ?
You should atleast put the name of the travel agency here so that many will benefit.
It will be much shorter travel time to Pattaya if one chooses to go there.
Previously I heard Cambodian road from SR to the border is horrible. Is it etter now?
[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48]Fred,
I fly with Bangkok airway a few time service is great, this is not a discount airline one way SR to BKK 4 yr ago cost 109 USD very expensive not sure about the baggage I have only one carry on with me no charge maybe is not over 25 kg.
Fast Eddie 48[/QUOTE]When I was planning to go to Siem Reap, the initial plan was to fly.
However, Bangkok Air are pirates. Try to book a fare on line, and depending on the season, its something like 5, 000 Baht. ONE WAY.
In fact, I just looked on their web site, and a return trip in early October, 2010 would cost Baht 10, 700 return. US $ 345. 00.
The road trip return for US$ 104 is a bargain. If there are two travelling together, the savings really really add up.
Thats why I go by road.
[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48]Fred,
I fly with Bangkok airway a few time service is great, this is not a discount airline one way SR to BKK 4 yr ago cost 109 USD very expensive not sure about the baggage I have only one carry on with me no charge maybe is not over 25 kg.
Fast Eddie 48[/QUOTE]
Not being a low cost airline, Bangkok Airways (PG) does allow 20kg of checked luggage and the customary 5kg cabin/hand luggage.
Not a cheap airline, though
[QUOTE=Bionicman]Not a cheap airline, though[/QUOTE]To say the least. I remember a few years ago someone calculated that per kilometer it was the most expensive airline in SE Asia. The BKK-SR fares are especially outrageous. Nice aircraft and good service, though.
[QUOTE=Chuckn]When I was planning to go to Siem Reap, the initial plan was to fly.
However, Bangkok Air are pirates. Try to book a fare on line, and depending on the season, its something like 5, 000 Baht. ONE WAY.
In fact, I just looked on their web site, and a return trip in early October, 2010 would cost Baht 10, 700 return. US $ 345. 00.
The road trip return for US$ 104 is a bargain. If there are two travelling together, the savings really really add up.
Thats why I go by road.[/QUOTE]Chuck N,
I book my ticket with a travel agent at SR that was 4 yr ago and USD is still strong, there are not too many option very few airline fly this route and I don't want to waste too much time on a damn bus.
Fast Eddie 48
[QUOTE=Betong]To say the least. I remember a few years ago someone calculated that per kilometer it was the most expensive airline in SE Asia. The BKK-SR fares are especially outrageous. Nice aircraft and good service, though.[/QUOTE]Bentong,
I have fly Bangkok airway from BKK to phuket is about the same as Thai air, route like BKK to koh samui and RP is much higher because not many airline fly this route, I think their service is better than Thai airway.
Fast Eddie 48
so FIRST go to PP then bus to SR.n Return the same route in reverse. about 5000B total
[QUOTE=Dinghy]so FIRST go to PP then bus to SR.n Return the same route in reverse. about 5000B total[/QUOTE]My favorite way to Siem Reap is to spend a couple relaxing days in Pattaya, grab the bus to Chantaburi and the van to Pailin, spend a night in Battambang, then buzz up to SR the next morning. Yes, plenty of time on the highway, but at least the scenery is interesting, unlike PP-SR. Then back overland via Aran, or by bus to PP for a few more days of misbehavior before catching Air Asia back to Bangkok.
But for anyone in a hurry who ONLY wants to go to Siem Reap, I say just bite the bullet and pay Bangkok Airways. That PP-SR roundtrip gets old real fast.
[QUOTE=Betong]To say the least. I remember a few years ago someone calculated that per kilometer it was the most expensive airline in SE Asia. The BKK-SR fares are especially outrageous. Nice aircraft and good service, though.[/QUOTE]Their monopoly on the S.Reap route isn't going to be around forever. Gotta like the Bankgkok Air time slots, though. Have paid the extra to fly with them because of that alone.
OK... IF you take a cab from BKK to border cost is at most 120usd then from border to SR 60usd -at most and that is 180usd from Bkk hotel to SR hotel, door to door. Total time - door to door - at most 6 hrs.
Now, to get from Bangkok hotel to airport 3/4 hr,, get to airport at least 1.5 hrs before flight, airtime 1 hr., arrival in SR, go through customs/visa/get luggage probably about 1 hr. time get ride and go to hotel 1/4 hr. total time about 5.5 hrs. COST: 220USD AIR plus 20usd taxi to airport TOTAL: 240 USD
.......... IN SUMMARY
. . . . . . . . VIA TAXI . . . . . . . . VIA AIR
COST .. . .. . .. 180usd . .. . .. . 240usd
TIME .. .. . . about 6 hrs . .. . .. about 5.5 hrs.
One nice thing about the taxi ride is that you leave WHEN you want to leave, regardless of airline schedule.
Which is the best choice: you decide
OH - if more than one person is taking cab... fare will really be less per person!!
[QUOTE=Golfinho]Their monopoly on the S.Reap route isn't going to be around forever. Gotta like the Bankgkok Air time slots, though. Have paid the extra to fly with them because of that alone.[/QUOTE]
Bangkok AIrways had a monopoly also in Koh Samui, since they own the airport and, albeit often people takes their flight as a continuation of an intercontinental flight they were not much cheap (also in comparison to asian standard.
It is not anyhow rated neither a low-cost nor a low-fare, so their prices are aligned with most of major airlines.
Not helping much local transportation and tourists to move around the country.
It is not their call as they want to make money as a private enterprise.
They had to "surrender" Samui to the arrival of other airlines (namelu Thai with 2 flights a day) and some charters (mainly from PR China, with All Inclusive packages)
This 'opening' did not mean any change in fares.
I doubt they will ever allow Air Asia and the alikes to touch their runaway....
[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48]Chuck N,
I book my ticket with a travel agent at SR that was 4 yr ago and USD is still strong, there are not too many option very few airline fly this route and I don't want to waste too much time on a damn bus.
Fast Eddie 48[/QUOTE]Fast Eddie,
I am in Australia. Just did an online quote with Expedia. Travel in October 2010, for 7 days in Siem Reap. Australian $ 432 return (US$ 393. 00 or Baht 12, 275)
Even when a mate of mine in Thailand were planning a trip in March, 2010, he said. "You don't really want to fly, do you? ". Its just expensive.
I was in Siem Reap in July, and had to return to Thailand for 20 days or so, and knew that I would only get a 15 day stay in Thailand if I came in by road. I went to Phnom Penh for a few days, and flew back to Thailand on THAI AIRWAYS for US$ 142. And received THAI STAR ALLIANCE mileage points as well, and my 30 day stay stamp too.
Thats still expensive, but, I prefer THAI for the miles
For me, travel from BKK to Siem Reap is only financially viable by using the bus / taxi route.
When I was in Thailand in August, I flew down to Nakhon Si Thamarrat on AIR ASIA. Baht 2, 950 for the return trip. US $ 94. 00. That included 15 kg of check in luggage.
When you look at the miles (kilometers)
BKK to SIEM RIEP. approx. 360 km as the plane flies
Phnom Penh to BKK 550 km
BKK to Nakhon Si Thamarrat 600 km
Of course, the flights to Cambodia are International.
Interesting, isn't it?
Rgds. Chuck
[QUOTE=Bionicman]Bangkok AIrways had a monopoly also in Koh Samui, since they own the airport and, albeit often people takes their flight as a continuation of an intercontinental flight they were not much cheap (also in comparison to asian standard.
It is not anyhow rated neither a low-cost nor a low-fare, so their prices are aligned with most of major airlines.
Not helping much local transportation and tourists to move around the country.
It is not their call as they want to make money as a private enterprise.
They had to "surrender" Samui to the arrival of other airlines (namelu Thai with 2 flights a day) and some charters (mainly from PR China, with All Inclusive packages)
This 'opening' did not mean any change in fares.
I doubt they will ever allow Air Asia and the alikes to touch their runaway.[/QUOTE]To Bionicman
I wonder how much Thai airway need to paid them to land their plane on their airport, I think ticket cost is over 300 USD for a round trip ticket from BKK to koh samui on Bangkok airway, I flight into Suri thani and take the ferry to the island but ut take more than 4 hr at half the price.
Fast Eddie 48
[QUOTE=Bionicman]Bangkok AIrways had a monopoly also in Koh Samui, since they own the airport[/QUOTE]I remember when they put up the money to build it, other airlines thought they were crazy to invest that much in a little island that still didn't have that much tourism. Then of course they made a fortune from it. So you have to give them credit for being visionary.
As far as flying vs. driving from Bangkok to Siem Reap, I'd pay whatever extra flying takes just to avoid Poipet! What a shithole.
[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48]To Bionicman
I wonder how much Thai airway need to paid them to land their plane on their airport, I think ticket cost is over 300 USD for a round trip ticket from BKK to koh samui on Bangkok airway, I flight into Suri thani and take the ferry to the island but ut take more than 4 hr at half the price.
Fast Eddie 48[/QUOTE]
Yep, currently it is
338€ with TG and
260€ with PG
on a same day monitoring and similar day times
Was much cheaper (20%) last spring, but fuel surcharges went dramatically up and also airlines are cashing back what they lost in the previous 18 months due to the global (joke) recession.
Surely the 737 of Thai touching down in SUm are paying a good stake, but their planes are full and so is PG.
I fly to Samui twice a year and never seen less than 80% load factor.
Still the general trade cries for lack of tourism.
I simply think there has been a change in that.
More resorts have been built and now they are operational
More 4 stars hotel from International chains are being built or opened.
Charter flights from China are increased too.
Their customers are not much the cheap beach bungalow customers, nor the local thai restauarant user, nor the beer drinkers at the night bars where nice girls play the furniture (and as Ikea you can bring the furnitures home yourself).
Those tourists are more family groups, spending alltheir tme (and money) inside the resort, occasionally walking out if convenient for a quick stroll and an ice cream, and spending the rest of the evening at the resort bar.
Not yet but in the direction of S.Domingo beach resorts in Punta Cana etc.
This type of clientele make suffer the night bars and the trade that goes around them.
Have seen myself empty bars and the planes are full.
Some 3 years ago bars were full and plane full too...
Quote:
Originally Posted by Somewhere15
I wanted too experience how it was too travel by road between Seam Reap and Bangkok (mid August 2010).
I asked some travel agencies in Seam Reap about this and they all had the same story.
It will take you 2 hours from Seam Reap to the Cambodia/Thai border (Poi Pet), than 1 hour for border change followed by a 3 hours drive to Bangkok (Koh San Road).
Pick up from your Seam Reap hotel by minibus and depending on the number of passengers they will continuing with the minibus or change to a larger aircon bus.
I travelled on a mid week day (believe it was Wednesday) and the trip was totally done through mini busses (change from mini bus on the border).
In Cambodia the driver always drove more than 100 km where mostly 60 km is signed/allowed.
When he was stopped by a traffic control (I guess they used the only laser gun available in the country) he reacted very upset, both to us his passengers as to the Cambodia police people. When he returned to the bus he did not want to say how much his fine was and also not if he has to pay by himself or that he could declare by his employer (a big lack of English happened after he was fined).
The driver from the minbus from the Thai/Cambodia border to Bangkok was even more worse; he didn’t speak any English and he drove more than 120 km per hour (but in general Thai roads are much better). Only one stop for a army control.
Within 3 hours (including a stop for fuel and using the restrooms) he dropped me and two other passengers (for a tip) on the Sukhumvite area instead of Koh San road.
This all for US $ 11.00 !
[QUOTE=Sammon]Is it 6 hours total travel time? For $11 dollars U.S. ?
You should atleast put the name of the travel agency here so that many will benefit.
It will be much shorter travel time to Pattaya if one chooses to go there.
Previously I heard Cambodian road from SR to the border is horrible. Is it etter now?[/QUOTE]
Sorry for the late reply......
I did not register which travel agency I booked with but many of them sell these tickets. On the ticket they gave 3 telephone numbers and name who you could contact. We agreed to a pickup time of 11:30 AM and when there was nowbody at 11:40 AM I called the number. Within 2 minutes the minibus was there; I guess not from my phonecall but already on his way.
I include some pictures from the billboard on the street in Seam Reap and some pictures from the location close to the Cambodia/Thai border which was owned by the company who executed the trip.
For you information we left at 12:00 AM in Seam Reap and arrived at 02:00 PM by the border. Changing time Cambodia/Thai border etc. was around 1 hour and the (mini) bus to Bangkok left at 03:15. At 06:30 I was in the sukhumvit area.
I also saw many of these billboards with offers in Phnom Pehn, I also include a taxi offer that I pictured by the Thai border.
[QUOTE=Somewhere15]Quote:
Originally Posted by Somewhere15
Sorry for the late reply......
I did not register which travel agency I booked with but many of them sell these tickets. On the ticket they gave 3 telephone numbers and name who you could contact. We agreed to a pickup time of 11:30 AM and when there was nowbody at 11:40 AM I called the number. Within 2 minutes the minibus was there; I guess not from my phonecall but already on his way.
I include some pictures from the billboard on the street in Seam Reap and some pictures from the location close to the Cambodia/Thai border which was owned by the company who executed the trip.
For you information we left at 12:00 AM in Seam Reap and arrived at 02:00 PM by the border. Changing time Cambodia/Thai border etc. was around 1 hour and the (mini) bus to Bangkok left at 03:15. At 06:30 I was in the sukhumvit area.
I also saw many of these billboards with offers in Phnom Pehn, I also include a taxi offer that I pictured by the Thai border.[/QUOTE]
Sorry I forgot to include the taxi signing on the Thai side of th Cambodia/Thai border.
[QUOTE=Somewhere15]Sorry I forgot to include the taxi signing on the Thai side of th Cambodia/Thai border.[/QUOTE]
And this time including the picture....:)
[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48]Chuck N,
I book my ticket with a travel agent at SR that was 4 yr ago and USD is still strong, there are not too many option very few airline fly this route and I don't want to waste too much time on a damn bus.
Fast Eddie 48[/QUOTE]Go in Thailand/Bkk to the Kho San road area and you will find many bustrips to Seam Reap for around 500/600 THB (less than US $ 15). I believe that a night trip is even cheaper.
The same when you want to go from Phnom Penh or Seam Reap to Bangkok (or other Thai locations) for amounts between US $ 6/7 till US $ 15; depending on toilet in the bus, airco etc.).
Hate to ask this kinda question here, but- anyone find a good laundromat a moderate price - hotel rob you blind.
Or have a suggestion where to stay that has their own laundryroom where I'd feed them coins?
Hi,
I'll be in Sieam Reap next month can someone advise me a nice guesthouse or hotel not so expensive near the pub street or the markets that are GF?
Thanks
Dream,
Try Prohm Roth Guest House. It is a block from Pub Street, girl friendly and decent rooms for perhaps 20$. [url]www.prohmroth-guesthouse.com[/url]
[QUOTE=Thomrn10]Dream,
Try Prohm Roth Guest House. It is a block from Pub Street, girl friendly and decent rooms for perhaps 20$. [url]www.prohmroth-guesthouse.com[/url][/QUOTE]
I'm trying to figure out where to stay for 4 nights in early December. That website made my eyes bleed. I'm still open to staying there but I have to question their sanity when they think that site's a good look.
Anyone have any info about [url]http://www.nethsocheatahotel.com/[/url]? I like that it's new and the reviews on tripadvisor are all good. A monger perspective is all that's missing for me. I got a form reply to my email. I sent a follow up about guests. I can get a double for $24 on agoda but they want $29 on their site. They ignored that question in my first email too.
I know I can book a place for one night and then move but it seems problematic if I'm going to out at temples all day so I'm hoping to find a good place so I don't have to do that. Still, I don't think I want to lock in by prepaying through agoda. If I go with them I might just book one night through agoda and reserve the other 3 through them.
Feel free to PM.
[QUOTE=Methos]I'm trying to figure out where to stay for 4 nights in early December.[/QUOTE]
Several years ago, I stayed at the Golder Orange. Free pickup at the bus station. Girl friendly. And a lockable security box in the room. However it is not next door to Pub street, so a tuk tuk is needed - and they're everywhere.
A tuk tuk driver took me to one of those Vietnamese brothels and I did a take out back to the Golder Orange for the night. Can't remember how much I paid.
That being said, the Golden Orange is a regular touristy guesthouse, so please be discreet.
Spaceman
[QUOTE=Fred Gold]Hate to ask this kinda question here, but- anyone find a good laundromat a moderate price - hotel rob you blind.
Or have a suggestion where to stay that has their own laundryroom where I'd feed them coins?[/QUOTE]
Fred - good question for trip advisor (lots there about it). Short answer: no coin laundries in places like this, but many small shops that you bring laundry to and they do for you, usually 1-2$/kg. just ask around when you get there for one in your neighborhood once you get there.
[QUOTE=Stew2]Fred - good question for trip advisor (lots there about it). Short answer: no coin laundries in places like this, but many small shops that you bring laundry to and they do for you, usually 1-2$/kg. just ask around when you get there for one in your neighborhood once you get there.[/QUOTE]Probably he meant he would love to find a place where when you give your clothes, nothing "magically" disappear. A Laundromat at least would be sure because you guard your stuff hehe. Well, two options: try a local place 1$/1kg like Stew2 said, and pray, or just buy some soap and wash your clothes in the bathroom. They can dry easily in your room, if you leave the fan open. The room is hot enough, trust me. And it's free too.
I'll be visiting Siem Reap in a couple of weeks and staying in the Pub street area. I was in S.R. about this time last year. What I'm looking for is a day time RnT massage parlour. There seemed to be plenty of massage places around on the main streets but they all looked pretty legit. If anyone can recommend a place a place preferably with showers and privacy it would be much appreciated.
Thanks BB
I will be visiting SR for the first time this Dec, and just wanted to confirm that the contact details I found on this forum for are correct for Saran,
Saran
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I wanted to engage his services for visiting Ankor what etc.
I have read on the forums that a person with a similar name has been caught for illegal activities, but I am not sure if this Saran is the same person?
Secondly, I also wanted to visit Vietnam from SR, possibly by boat if I can, and was wondering if this is possible? I am planning to fly to SR from BKK, then make a boat trip into Vietnam (not sure where?) and then fly back from Vietnam back to BKK. All in all, a 7-10 day trip.
Am I going the right way round this or would experienced members do it another way? Can any members share their experiences / advise on this plan?
Thanks
Max
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Saran works out of PP -not SR...but any Tuk Tuk driver in SR can give you what you want. If you want the contact of a guy who took me around Angkor and then at night - plus he is great company with OK english you can PM me. I paid $20 per day + a tip at the end - you could get cheaper but all we are doing is stiffing people who need $5 more than we do.
BB
[QUOTE=MadMax1]I will be visiting SR for the first time this Dec, and just wanted to confirm that the contact details I found on this forum for are correct for Saran,
Saran
[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Bubba999]Saran works out of PP -not SR...but any Tuk Tuk driver in SR can give you what you want.who need $5 more than we do.
BB[/QUOTE]
And that is the answer I guess to my query. Thanks BB.
There are boat trips down the Mekong from PP to Chau Doc. Maybe from SP as well.
Cheers BB
Saran, is still available and not the same guy who was busted. As far as I know, he only works PP, but you can email him about SR and see if he goes there.
Here is his email:
sarangoodtrip email yahoo.com
Plenty of opportunities still available with freelancers in pub street. Also there are a few ladyboys so watch out if you are not into them.
Another place we visited was Blue Wave. Three of us arrived about 9.00pm. Only four girls there who were reasonable and were available. They were not pushy and there were reasonable rooms available on site.
Cost was $25 all inclusive for an hour of fun. Could be stretched a little longer for no charge. All in all take your drink with you and have a good time.
25 is 10 too much
Your PM box is full and I can't give you the info you want - will check again in a day or 2.
[QUOTE=Dinghy]25 is 10 too much[/QUOTE]Agree, $25 should be the starting point for LT and not just 1 hr service.
FZ
[QUOTE=Wes Man; 1094136]Plenty of opportunities still available with freelancers in pub street. Also there are a few ladyboys so watch out if you are not into them.
Another place we visited was Blue Wave. Three of us arrived about 9. 00pm. Only four girls there who were reasonable and were available. They were not pushy and there were reasonable rooms available on site.
Cost was $25 all inclusive for an hour of fun. Could be stretched a little longer for no charge. All in all take your drink with you and have a good time. [/QUOTE]I stayed in Seam Reap last week for some days (Sunday till Wednesday). Only some "hard" streetworkers and (of course) some ladyboys (or people I am not sure they are original a female). In the Pubs (like Temple bar) where I had some nice pick-ups last year around Christmas time their was nothing available.
Gentlemen, please forgive me if I bore you with some background information about myself. You can skip ahead to the next paragraph to get to the good stuff. Also, I'm not sure about all the abbreviations, so feel free to edit.
I've been married to the same woman for 17 years, and I've never strayed once. She is also the only person I've ever had sex with. Certainly I've been curious, and had opportunities, but the risks always seemed greater than the rewards. I wasn't willing to risk my marriage for my horniness. Yay for porn and fantasizing.
After reading all your posts about Siem Reap, I just had to try and find some action for myself. On the first night I trolled up and down Pub Street, but there was an extremely heavy police presence. I didn't see anything going on in the Temple Bar, and the place was jammed with tourist couples.
I went with Plan B and spoke to some of the Tuk-Tuk drivers, they were all more than happy to hook me up with a "Cambodian Lady". I realize that all you need is a key word. In retrospect, massage booom-boom would probably also have been just as good.
The following day, after the obligatory sunrise temple tour, my wife went back to the hotel for an afternoon nap. I went into town on the pretense of looking for a bicycle tour. Even though it was only 1:30pm, the first Tuk Tuk driver I talked to looked a little confused at first but said he knew what I wanted. I negotiated a rate of $3 for him to drive me around and scout out the action.
Pulse pounding, and in a daze of unreality, I watched the scenery during the ride to Top Village. My driver went inside to see if they could do anything this early in the day. He returned shortly with Mama San and I negotiated $40 for massage boom-boom. I chose the best loooking lady out of a line-up of five women, the majority of which were low in the looks department.
My choice was An-Linh, a 24 year chocalate brown girl with tight, dreadlocked hair coming to no more than 4'1". I rode the tuk-tuk to a nearby hotel for a one-hour rental while she went seperately by motorcycle. We walk down the hallway, and into the room: nothing special, just a basic small hotel room with a childish pink and yellow comforter on the bed.
She quickly undressed and I enjoyed running my hands over her lithe and supple chocolate brown frame. Her tits were almost non-existant, but it was so different to be with a woman that I could pick up with one arm. I encircled her waist with just my two hands, and her baby smooth ass fit into one hand.
An-Linh disappeared into the bathroom to shower, and came back out wrapped in a towel. She gestured that I should do the same, so I popped into the bathroom for a quick scrub.
Back on the bed the towels disappear and she snuggles up into the crook of my arm. Nice fit! She licks my nipples, and massages my body while I rub her back and explore her firm little ass. I can't get her tiny brown nub nipples hard, but I had fun trying.
She slips a condom onto my throbbing erection, grasps me firmly around the base of my cock and slips me inside her Brazilian shaven pussy. The sight of that shapely mound and its chocolate lips crowned by a small patch of straight black hair is electrifying.
She rides me for a while, but I flip her onto her back and lift her up. I try to get her to do it standing up, but she's not interested. At this point I'm losing interest, so she deftly massages my cock back into hardness. I pound her lying on her back at the edge of the bed with me standing. She seems to be getting impatient, so I try to find her clit. No luck.
She obviously thinks this is taking far too long, and I'm not getting enough friction to come. Maybe I'm also still a little nervous. I pull out and communicate by gesture that I want to CIM as Plan B. No dice. OK, how about CIF? Nope. Aw come on, fine, how about cum on tits? Nope. The only thing she would do is a HJ with me lying on my back.
That worked fine, and I blew a big load that hit the pillow next to my head. She laughed in disbelief, and then gestured that she would shower. When she came out I showered, and she was sitting on the bed watching Cambodian music videos. After twenty minutes she was clearly disinterested in any conversation or cuddling, and her ability to speak English had evaporated. Then her English recovered enough to ask for an extra $1 for her motorbike ride back. I was feeling pretty cold at this point, so I flat out refused and walked out.
On my final night I was wandering pub street and scene was a little different than Tuesday night at the same time. A portable hoe patrol of five pretty women in stilletos was patrolling up and down the street with their mama-san. I saw a couple of guys negotiate with them and disappear in plain view of the police. Maybe the cleanup action is over? Also, at the end of pub street there's a place called Mikey's Bar where 15 very nice looking girls in fuck me outfits were sitting around outside. I went by again a little later and two older white guys were being mobbed by the girls.
Thank-you again for all of your posts. They gave me the courage to try the plunge for myself and I hope my first post isn't too long and dithering. If anything, having finally had some variety in my life makes me hotter to fuck my wife again. What a fantastic experience: as long as my dick doesn't fall off.
[QUOTE=NightShade69;1107716]slips me inside her Brazilian shaven pussy. .[/QUOTE]Good report. I too enjoyed the read. Your 1st time into sneaking around must have been a big factor as you were maybe too nervous to cum, it'll go away real fast as you gain more experiences.
Have not been to Brazil so have to image what a shaven pussy there looks like.
FZ
i am mid forties, white male and visited siem reap with my wife in the summer 09.
on a couple of occasions i had the chance to get something on the side away from my wife.
i found the selection to be not so good. i had a tuk-tuk driver take me to 3 different places: the big disko by the night market, a brothel a little outside town and a place i can't identify. generally the women did not look good, and i think they were all vietnamese. i did however fuck one at the disko for something like usd 60. it seemed kind of expensive considering the economy of the country. not very good.
best thing was repeatedly going to the same massage (body) place close to the hospital. generally they don't offer sex and particulary not at the shops, but in this case the actual massage took place in a semi-closed area. with kind of a draping around.
the girl was something like 20 years and somewhat cute. the massage was a socalled oil massage where you are totally naked (with a small towel around you) and the girls kind of go rather close to where it feels good. the second time i noticed that one of the girls (there were two) was somehow less carefull about not touching the good spots. next time i asked her to do me alone. when she asked me to turn around on my back i was really hard and i asked her to touch my cock. she kind of hesitated but also smiled. i gave her right away 20 usd and now she gave me a really good hand-job.
next time i made her suck me and at the same time she led me touch her under her clothing. it was totally hot.
then next time again (my wife was like: oh dear sorry about your bad back.) i wanted to fuck her badly but unfortunately she had big time menstruation. also i probably was a little risky to do it in a room where a collegue could show up any minute.
all in all i found it a lot more fun than sex with some poor girl trapped at a brothel. this had a huge element of seduction and game.
Hi Guys,
I'm off to Cambo in May and was wondering if any of you have had any experiences with 2 or 3 girls at once? SR will be the main part of my holiday (of course the temples are there). Also are the girls willing to get into some bi times with each other?
Thanks Heaps!
[QUOTE=Marrow; 1109625]Uh ye, did thousand times. No, I remember just 2 times (LOL) , a threesome barely acceptable. Boring as hell. They start to laugh like idiots. Or, usually, complain, angry. And you need to tell them what to do. Try to imagine ask a blowjob from both, haha. It's a miracle find a Cambodian girl do it. Interaction, at best, is a little cuddle on arms, if and when. But if both do, no, not togheter like porn movies. Fun, if you consider how many of them are lesbian, fuck barang just for money, bored (viet, mostly, are lesbian, Cambodians are bi). Try Thailand, if you need this fun. Threesome and foursome, deserve any cent spent, very high quality, porn-movie like.
Cheers![/QUOTE]Thanks for your reply Marrow.
Oh damn, I was thinking at $20 each, I was going to get a place with a king size bed and get 5 or 6 :-D Like a harem and cover them all in oil etc And its the same in Viet? I'm going there too. Might have to hit Thailand next time! I still plan on having some undercover fun so ill be sure to post my findings on here!
I was in Viet a couple of years ago and paid the asked price of 500, 000 for HJ and another 200, 000 for BJ. Hahaha after reading posts on here and what you SHOULD pay I should be ashamed! Oh well it was my first overseas trip. Will know what the going rate is this time.
[QUOTE=Marrow; 1110069]My god, vietnam haha. I mean wait, if you are ready to pay 200-300 $, and lucky, not so impossible to find a good couple. But again, don't expect a porn movie performance, expecially from young girls. (Depends on luck, trust me, sometimes happens) I understood, your fantasy, perfectly. Well, if you want to realize it (and with a lot of money to spend) , seriously, go to Thailand. You will be easily able to organize this harem dream with oil. And you will find from your "group", horny and enjoyment. And a real porn-movie performance, with moans etc. Beware. 20$ you mention,"could" be just for a cheap charlie room, in Thailand.
Tip: stay far from a cheap charlie room, you will destroy the mood. Beter spend 20 dollars more, med / high quality room.
6 girls ready to accomplish your harem dream? 600$ (or more). Does it worth? Priceless. For everything else, there is mastercar. Erm, there is a chicken farm LOL. 5/10$, one girl performance (disappointing one). Don't be surprised of this senseless BJ performance, about vietnam.
Thinks, when I need to fuck, I go quickly to the bus station, destination Cambodia (LOL)
Are you able to change your plan?
This dream, was easy to accomplish in Cambodia, few years ago, with viet girls. 2.50$ each. It's too late now.
Cheers, and post here your experience![/QUOTE]NO I'm unable to change my plans now but have more time off in 2012 so will perhaps head to Thailand then. The main purpose of my trip is Angkor. Also Ha Long bay which I missed last time in Viet due to a Typhoon so seems silly to change just for some punani. But of course there is no harm in having some fun with the ladies while I'm there :-D Will be sure to post my results on here!
British shopowner arrested for having sex with employed boys aged 13. 15 years
Got back a few days ago and here is some info on the sex scene and since anyone visiting is also touring the ruins, some additional places of interest.
There are two levels of service, the low end $25 scene you hear so much about, and the high end KTV scene which costs up to $80 (I negotiated one place down to $65) for an all night stay. The low end that I saw was a dreary, back alley scene. I didn't bother researching it beyond the one example I was shown. Perhaps you could find some diamond in the rough if you look around, but considering how much my 2 1/2 week trip costs, an additional $40 or $50 for top quality stunning young girls (legal) was a no brainer. A few bucks more for a big jump in quality is worth it for me.
First night I was taken to a place called Top Town. It is about a couple of miles from the river, going toward the airport on the national road (forgot what number they call it). You will see a sign showing where to turn left. You go down the road a couple hundred yards and I think turn into it. Just ask any Tuk Tuk driver and he'll know where it is.
You walk into a room with about 50 girls, seemingly half of them 9's or better, all of them hoping you choose them. I was then led into a smaller room with about 15 to choose from, found one that was to my liking and left after paying $80, the quoted price. It was all new to me so I didn't negotiate. The gal was in her early 20's, beautiful and was very happy with her.
The second night I was taken to a place called Zone One. They quoted $75 LT, $55 ST. My Tuk Tuk driver this night spoke good English and got them down to $65 LT. This place had the girls outdoors, couldn't see them that well, was presented with a lineup of about 12 girls, found another gorgeous young lass and had a great time again.
There are many more KTV's, probably all similarly priced, and judging from the two that I sampled, are well supplied with a very high level of talent. Both girls were enthusiastic and passionate. All that you could ask for. Any Tuk Tuk driver can show you them or you will probably stumble on them if you wander around town. The girls follow your Tuk Tuk home on a moped, and will be picked up after their session. I was concerned about my fancy botique hotel (Cool Hotel, very nice for $55 a night) but they said no problem, the girl shows or gives her I'd to the guard and there is no charge. I assume most places are girl friendly, but was told some might charge you a nominal fee for bring a girl home. Neither had on site facilities and I think that is the way they stay acceptable to the authorities.
Now since any in Siem Reip is visiting Ankor what and possibly interested in more than sex, here are a couple of recommendations.
There is a town built on a lake and is on stilts as the lake at high water is about 50 feet higher than in the dry season (now). For $30 you can take a river cruise, stop at the town for lunch if you want, and then proceed to the lake for a swim if you bring your swimming suit. It takes about an hour from town via Tuk Tuk and much of the trip is in the countryside which is typical of rural Cambodia and is worth the ride if you want to see how 99% of Cambodians live. It was a great ride, a tonic of reality after the high tourist experience of Ankor what. The Tuk Tuk will cost you about $20 to do the trip. If you can find someone to share the ride (the boats hold about 16 people) fine, but I took it alone (with my Tuk Tuk driver). I also had lunch ($5) at the town and then wandered up to the Pagoda and school nearby. I was approached by a insufferably cute 16 whyear old gal speaking good English selling little notebooks and pencils for you to hand out to the elementary school kids. Total rip off moneywise (I think 10 skinny little notebooks were $5 and 10 pencils the same although she gave a discount if you buy a few of them). Handing them out the the squealing little kids who have to buy their own supplies was worth every cent of the deal. I highly recommend you do this. Will remember the experience as much as the temples, and it helps out the kids and the gal who sells you the supplies.
Also, the next day I found a Tuk Tuk driver who said he would take me down the backroads of the countryside for $15. I had a 3PM flight out and met him around 9:30 AM while I was photographing street traffic (you know, the family of 4 on one moped, little kids staring at you while they zoom by) and he said two hours was plenty of time. He took me to the Kro Bei Real Market. On the way he took me down footpaths (on the Tuk Tuk) to visit farm families by the paddies. The ride was a little bumpy but well worth it for those who want to go off the beaten path and be more than a temple tourist. There is actually interesting architecture (the houses along the way). The little kids come out all excited (this is probably the biggest entertainment they have) yelling "Hello, Hello,". I had a wad of 500 and 1000 whatever they call their money notes and handed them out after taking photos of them. Lots of fun. The Kro Bei Real Market is more like a town with a school and was a lot of fun to walk through. I wish I had more time to explore more of the back roads. Everyone very friendly as I am sure they never see tourists out here. I highly recommend this. I'm sure most Tuk Tuk drivers can find it but if not you can call the guy who took me there. His name is.
Mr. Sok Mi and his phone is (855) 12 62 51 65. I assume the 855 is the country code and I think you may need to put a zero in front of it all (obviously don't use the country code). His email is [email]sokmil@yahoo.com[/email] And would be happy to show you around. I mentioned the mongering desires of my friends and he said he could help show my friends around too (although I never used him for this, Tuk Tuk drivers are always asking if you want girls or boom boom and I'm sure he knows the town well). Most importantly he speaks decent English which is very helpful.
Enjoy the temples (can be done in two days) , the countryside and the girls. All are great for their own reasons.
So, I went to Top Town whilst in Siem Reap, and I broke my rule.
I took the hottest girl in the room. She was young (they said she was 18. I dunno. It's plausible, but she seemed younger after the fact).
Anyway. The girl followed me back to the hotel on the Motorcycle, whilst I was in my Tuk Tuk. There was no problem there, and then we got inside and went to my room.
I took a shower, and then she took a shower, and came and joined me in the bed. She was. It seemed fucking nervous! She was very stiff, and rigid. She only got into it when we were having the sex, but otherwise it was very mechanical.
She stopped me after she came a bit, because it started to get painful for her or something. (her english was poor) and tried to get me off with a fairly poor HJ, so I just took over and came all over her face.
I can't remember her name, but she was wearing this pink dressy / skirt / suit thingy.
To add to the misery, she was suppose to stay all night, but she was in the karaoke room drinking earlier, and kept complaining that she felt sick and wanted to go home. I was happy to see the back of her at that point.
She promised to come back in the morning and fuck me again, but she didn't. I didn't expect her too, or ask her too, I just nodded and said,"Ok, I'll be here still at 10am".
Face: 9/10.
Body: 9/10.
Attitude: 4/10.
Service: 1/10.
I decided not to return the next night, even though I was planning to go there both nights. It was $70 USD for the time. Worst mongering experience since I started doing this.
I had a great time with many women who were 7-8s. I like a cute face, great personality, and some butt. My high success rate was from the good advice I recieved from Doug the owner at the Golden Orange Hotel. A solid 3 star hotel that is very friendly, the frount desk will even order a massage for you in your room. Doug can be found in the out door bar that is in frount of the hotel, he is happy to talk to anyone who comes buy. The best parts of the trip were, friendly women with great attitudes at 25 to 30 dolllars, no bar fines, safe city, draft beer at. 50 to 1 dollar, fantastic food as cheap as $1. 00 per plate or up to $40 if you want to have the finest dining experience possiable, honest tuk tuk drivers (the ones from the hotel) and ankgor what.
[QUOTE=Red Square; 1120448]Face: 9/10.
Body: 9/10.
Attitude: 4/10.
Service: 1/10.
I decided not to return the next night, even though I was planning to go there both nights. It was $70 USD for the time. Worst mongering experience since I started doing this. [/QUOTE]Why is it always the hot ones who have the bad attitudes?
i stayed at hotel golden orange, which i can recommend. 25$. the first time i do this in cambodia so i was somewhat exited. i asked the tuktuk driver to take me to the bar top town. 5 $ for the return trip. arriving there 9 in the evening i was showned into the main room, lots of women sitting around there, didn`t see any other punters. then into a smaller room, and the women came in, all at once, maybe 30 in number. choosing that way was a bit difficult but i picked one. face:8. body: 7. age: 25? at the same time i get a drink for 2$, and the mamasan told me the price: 60 for one hour an the same for the whole nigh! here i should have bargained, but i "forgot". i paid to the cashier in the main room. my tuk-tuk was waiting outside so i was expecting a romantic ride with the girl back to my hotel. but no, she went ahead on a moto. this for discretion i guess. finally we got to the room, i discovered she knew close to nothing english. anyway we went to bed. no bj: "no! in camputchea, no!". also no dfk. the sex was ok, but nothing special. nice girl, somewhat passionate, but still no dfk. then the question is whats the point with the whole night option if the girl isn't especially good? nothing, really! more on this below. after we cuddled for a while, sort of cosy, and had another go at 3 in the morning. after she said "missi go home now!" (i'm not sure if i remember the name correctly.) fine, but now she asks me for money for moto, i give her 1 dollar. she says: "10 dollar! tip! all night! two!", and she explaines with her hands that we did it twice. she want go without the money and i give in and give her. this means total costs are 77 $. way too much! conclusion: i recommend going to other places in siem reap.
it seems to me mongering in cambodia can be too expensive because there is too little competition on the supply side. also typical for nonenglish-speaking areas that they to ask for too much money? the system is just not standarised here.
questions: is there also an area called "top town" that is cheaper?
how to choose between lt and st? this is something i have wondered about before also. since one doesn't know how the good its going to be before the act.
and angkor what? i rented a bicycle and did the ruins in half a day in express speed, only costed me 1$. some old rubble! would have been a good site for a porn movie though.
I got Sildenafil (generic) otc in a pharmacy in Siem Reap. Cheap stuff from India, but it worked. 4x100 for 3$. They also had one pack for 4. 50 and one for 6$. It was possible to cut the pills in small pieces (since 100 mg is too much). I don't remember the name of the place, but it is close to Hotel Golden Orange. On the main street, same side of river).
Funny story in the store: First I asked for eye-drops for dry eyes, a local customer standing next to me looked at the product and said: "oh yes. That one is very good. Then I showed the clerk a paper note with "Sildenafil" on it, he went to get it. Then the same customer, a curious and friendly guy, looked at my note and said: "yes, they have some very good one here, and it is cheaper than in PP, and it works good", and he smiled. Very funny.
Last week I picked up a really cute lass in Pub Street. Said she was 22 and less than 5 foot. She wanted $30. But accepted $20 after asking a tuk tuk driver what 20 was in Kmer. Had a great time with her, despite the fact that she had a 3 month old little "bump" and could speak no English.
Duly paid her, + $2 for moto and off she went with a big hug. All very nice and friendly.
4 days later whilst having breakfast in the hotel, the manager walks into the restaurant with her, and says that she has an appointment with me. I advised that this was not the case, which was relayed to the girl, following which the manager said that she would go.
What that was all about I haven't a clue. Why wait 4 days if she wanted a repeat performance?
How much was the room?
Any good places near the hotel?
Can you recommend any good bars in general.
[QUOTE=Mexico Larry;1122714]I had a great time with many women who were 7-8s. I like a cute face, great personality, and some butt. My high success rate was from the good advice I recieved from Doug the owner at the Golden Orange Hotel. A solid 3 star hotel that is very friendly, the frount desk will even order a massage for you in your room. Doug can be found in the out door bar that is in frount of the hotel, he is happy to talk to anyone who comes buy. The best parts of the trip were, friendly women with great attitudes at 25 to 30 dolllars, no bar fines, safe city, draft beer at. 50 to 1 dollar, fantastic food as cheap as $1. 00 per plate or up to $40 if you want to have the finest dining experience possiable, honest tuk tuk drivers (the ones from the hotel) and ankgor what.[/QUOTE]
After a few days of not looking for action I just wanted to blow my load. Went by blue wave on a Friday night. Only about maybe 8 girls. None of them lookers. It was late and I had just downed a pitcher on pub street so I was buzzing. I got a girl who didn't look her best. She quoted 25$ room included. We agreed on 20$. Wouldn't go back ever. Like I said. Just wanted to dump my load.
Next night I visited top town just to see what the big deal was. Wasn't interested in the girls, except for one. She was definitely good looking. Asked the mamasan how much, she quoted 80$ for short time. HA. You got to be kidding me. I told her I had a girl for 50$ long time last time a was there (complete lie since it was my first time). Then after they talked to the girl I was told she only does short time. It makes sense because she was THAT hot compared to all the other girls. She knew she could probably get another customer. Declined and went on my way.
I had my moto driver take me to a KTV place along the airport road. No good looking girls. I had a specific taste that night. I wanted either a nice young vietnamese or Cambodian girl. Something cute to look down at while I pounded away. Then the driver took me to a place down what Bo road. If you're heading from Pub street over there you can't miss it. It was another KTV but the difference from Top Town was that you HAD to do at least an hour of kareoke before you could take the girl. Most of the girls were busy servicing the Koreans, but I found a nice cute young Cambodian and took her to the room. Now, there was a lady in the room most of the time to program the songs for me and get more drinks if I needed. Also, the moto driver was in there with me. At first I was kinda against that but then I thought it was a good thing since I didn't want to sing every song, so I let him sing Cambodian songs. Not a bad time.
I did make a mistake however. My girl walked out of the room for a few minutes. I had seen other girls doing that from other rooms so I didn't pay any mind. But then my moto driver left and I thought he was going to the bathroom as well. Whatever. They came back, not together, and eventually I wanted to leave with my girl. I asked him if it was cool to take her and he said sure sure it's ok. I said, 'ask her because I don't want to make sure she consents." Then he said its okay because he already spoke to her. That should've set off bells in my head. They must've talked when they went to what I thought was the restroom. Paid for the kareoke, about 30$. Paid for the girl. 70$, which I'm sure I could've got for cheaper had I kept my wits about me. But I really wanted her.
Took her back to the hotel. Savored every moment with her. She was cute in bed just how I liked it. After I finished the first round she pulled the,"I go home now?" bit. She tried it a couple of times actually. She pulls out her phone to show a pic of the 'baby' she has to take care of. I tell her, 'sure, just give me 30$ and you can leave right now. What, no money? Then be quiet and get ready for round 2 because I paid for the whole night."
Wasn't going to let her pull that one on me. Whenever that happens it doesn't bother me because I just pound them so much harder the second time for trying that on me.
Oh well. Happy hunting.
By the way, stayed at the Palm garden lodge for 12$ a night. WILL NEVER STAY THERE AGAIN. The didn't clean the room daily. A bug here and there. Gnats in the shower drain (from never cleaning it). Took a long time with a meal order at the resturant. Fan and AC wasn't strong enough. And they had a sign in the room at absolutely no prostitutes were aloud in the rooms.
Moved down the street to Mandalay Inn based on a recommendation from google search. MUCH BETTER for 14$ a night. GF. Cleaning service everyday. A gym on top floor which I have yet to use. AC and Fan in Great condition. Although they ask you to reuse your towel they will exchange it for new one upon request. Small room but worth it and with a minifridge.
Note that both these places are on the same street and are 5 minutes walking distance from pub street.
Hi guys,
Had a quick stopover at Siem Reap and just thought I'd write up my findings. I'm am noob so please go easy on me. Had a dude on a bike take me to top town, get shown into a room, and about 20 girls walk in eager for you to pick them, so I did. $80 to take her back for ST (definately got ripped off). She was a statue, just my luck. Wouldn't even BJ. No 43 I think, name was too hard to remember, oh well.
Walked around pub street and saw alot of ladyboys, all in all guess it could be ok if I had of picked right at top town.
Questions: is there also an area called "Top Town" that is cheaper?
There's a club, of sorts, called Top Town. My recollection from two years ago is that you basically you pick out a girl from a lineup and must sneak her into your hotel room (at least I had to at the quite-nice 4-star place I stayed at; a doorman saw us get into the hotel elevator together, rushed over and, from outside the elevator asked me "What room?" Of course I answered with a number on a completely different floor. Idiot.) The girl I picked from Top Town was memorable, very sweet. I don't believe they had facilities to do the deed onsite. Siem Reap also has a brothel called Soksan, where you get an hour with a girl chosen from a fishbowl. My trip there was one of poor service, girl complaining all the way. Anyhow, good luck!
Had a couple stops at blue wave bar (not to everyone's taste. But I enjoy because there is no bs on price. Girl & room are $20, plus whatever you want to tip. The girls get $10 of that 20, so I tip a bit more).
Had afew choices- rina, rani, and one whose name I forget. All nice enough looking. Above average for blue wave. But service here is always good and the girls seem to be willing to do what you (I) want. In CAmbodia BJ is not assured, so I always ask if yum yum is on their menu. At blue wave I have never had trouble with that request. Rani was especially good in that regard.
She also spoke good enough English to inform me that the bar is moving in about another week or two. Seems the guest house that they rent rooms from wants them out.
They will move to the main street close to where the deadfish cafe is. Near thelittle street that leads to the night market (saw this on their new cards, already printed). When I pointed out that is a bit more exposed to view than the current location she said the customer will meet girls in bar as before, but wi go separately to rooms. May be ok for privacy. Let you know if theymove before I leave.
Can anyone tell me if girl-friendly? Got a free night there.
Can you all explain why the girls are 8s and 9s?
Are they super pretty or girl next door?
Or are they super young and just sexy / doable 8 or 9?
SR is only for sightseeing, NOT MORE
[QUOTE=Steve German;1159928]SR is only for sightseeing, NOT MORE[/QUOTE]You obviously visited the wrong sights! My holiday snaps reveal more than temples!
[QUOTE=Stew2; 1157219]She also spoke good enough English to inform me that the bar is moving in about another week or two. Seems the guest house that they rent rooms from wants them out.
They will move to the main street close to where the deadfish cafe is. Near thelittle street that leads to the night market (saw this on their new cards, already printed). When I pointed out that is a bit more exposed to view than the current location she said the customer will meet girls in bar as before, but wi go separately to rooms. May be ok for privacy. Let you know if theymove before I leave. [/QUOTE]Following that report, blue wave closed around 5/21. I saw a storefront in the area I believe will be the new location being worked on, but by the time I left SR a week later, it had not reopened yet. If I am right about the spot, it will be next to a massage parlor, between dead fish cafe and the side street that leads to the night market.
Prices off the planet in siem riep if one doesn't speak khmer.
Much better to go to the late night discos, lots of women.
Women from SR not that pretty, although many from all over the country go there to work.
Much better value in PP.
I did a two day quick trip to Siem Reap from Bangkok before heading back to the US. I opted to fly, even though there is a large price differential as compared to driving. The major disadvantage is the much longer travel time by car, and to me it is not worth the added time.
I headed to Pub street Friday night, but I was not impressed by the girls in the bars. It was approached constantly in the street to be taken to see girls for boom boom.
On the positive side, I enjoyed the Golden Banana and $5 US one hour foot massages, along of course, with a tour of Angor what.
I made the mistake of exchanging US currency at the airport; it seems that US$ is much more readily accepted than the local riel.
[QUOTE=Tricycle;1166605]I made the mistake of exchanging US currency at the airport; it seems that US$ is much more readily accepted than the local riel.[/QUOTE]The US dollar is the prefer currency in Cambo. Best thing is NOT to exchange anything. Just use the dollar and they will give you any change in local currency and after awhile you will accumulate more riels than you know what to do with. Don't forget to change it back to dollars before you leave as the reil is USELESS outside of Cambodia.
Shark
[QUOTE=Wildhawk; 1149792]Questions: is there also an area called "Top Town" that is cheaper?
There's a club, of sorts, called Top Town. My recollection from two years ago is that you basically you pick out a girl from a lineup and must sneak her into your hotel room (at least I had to at the quite-nice 4-star place I stayed at; a doorman saw us get into the hotel elevator together, rushed over and, from outside the elevator asked me "What room?" Of course I answered with a number on a completely different floor. Idiot.) The girl I picked from Top Town was memorable, very sweet. I don't believe they had facilities to do the deed onsite. Siem Reap also has a brothel called Soksan, where you get an hour with a girl chosen from a fishbowl. My trip there was one of poor service, girl complaining all the way. Anyhow, good luck![/QUOTE]TOP TOWN's location is some way out of the main tourist nightlife area and is madness for anyone to attempt to walk there at night from town centre. It has more Sino-Asian and local well-off Cambodian clientele and the girls there generally looks better and fairer as they know the clientele are willing to pay the prices they expect. It is also a KTV and a dance club for locals and you can see many local Cambodian youth drinking and partying there, something you could hardly find in the Walking Street. Top Town should be ideal for those who don; t mind paying USD30 to USD50 LT but service level may vary from girls to girls and clients to clients. SOKSAN girls generally looks inferior to Top Town but exploit its strategic centre of town location and tend to offer less for more but it does has an aquarium for Thailand-style convenience and accessibility.
After spending the day at the temples I went to dinner in the main street and had a few beers. Lots of offers from motorbike taxis to take me for a girl. Still had credit cards and such in my wallet so declined. Headed out again at 9. 30 pm with just cash notes. Not far from my hotel and still not in the main street a bike pulled up and asked if I wanted a girl for my room. This sounded good so asked for more details, He would take me across the main drag and out to where I could choose then arrange delivery. Only $70 on me so took a punt as he seemed quite a nice guy.
The last bit of the journey was quite scary as your suddenly off the main lighted 4 lane street and into a dim alley type affair. Music and neon lights as we pulled up. I could see lots of girls sitting waiting for customers. I was taken to another room to the side to discuss matters and handed a beer to drink. The taxi man explained that I wanted a girl in my room overnight. The mama-san told me that would be $150. I said this was out of the question and asked the driver if he was right to take me back. He said that was fine but he wanted $5 for his trouble of taking me there and back. The mama-san wanted to know how much money I would pay for a girl. I told her that I had $70 and needed $5 for the driver. She then told me she would ask if any of the girls would go with me at that price ($65)
Next thing in comes about 8 girls one of whom is much taller and is waving to me from the back with a smile. She is a good looking Cambodian girl with wavy slightly blonde hair. I looked at the others and she seemed to be close to the best and that waving to me I took as a good sign that she was keen to go. Girl selected I now faced the mama-san and driver alone again. I got my $5 and paid him and he explained that I would now go back to my hotel and the girl would be delivered soon after. I also had to pay the mama-san her money.
I was thinking this would be some scam where nothing happened and I am out $70 but also I was away from the city centre and not much hope of finding my way back so agreed and took a wait and see attitude. The driver and I left and I was soon back in my hotel waiting to see if anything would happen. I then got a call from reception that there was a young lady there and was it okay to send her to my room. I had booked as a single occupant and he also advised that there was a surcharge of $40 for the second guest. I am not sure if this was a scam or not but she was there and this was holding up my fun so I agreed and soon enough there was a knock on the door.
I was staying at Raffles and the room was quite spacious and a huge bed. Not much English was spoken but we did manage some communication about where I was from and so on before it was time for me to shower, everything valuable was locked away including wallet and camera so no problem there. She then showered and came over to the bed in a robe.
We got comfortable and things progressed quite well with me enjoying her very nice body (I would say 8/10) The sex was good and I finished with her riding away on top in a very wild fashion. After rest she began appying pressure down there and I rose to the occasion. This time was slower and very enjoyable. We both changed positions a few times and shared the work (hard work) once again she rode me so well that I was over the top. This time she said in English," I no finish yet, close but I no finish ".
After more rest and her watching some TV things started to heat up again, this was after 1 am now. This time I went down on her and that helped make sure she did finish. I took things very slow after she did and she was still for a long time as I just kept a little movement going. She then came back to life and really was moving in mish and finally rode me while I watched her bounce and squeeze me dry, oh so good.
We slept until 8 am and I had arranged for my temple guide to meet me at 8 am so more morning activities were out of the question. When I woke her she reached down and said "more boom boom" I let her play a while and enjoyed being close to that hot body before having to have a shower and finally ask her to get moving. She said she could have stayed till 10 am if I wanted her too. Very tempting.
Anyway that's it guys, took a punt and it paid off pretty well. As I went to meet my guide I saw her at the reception counter and if she got a cut of the extra guest fee then oh well. I gave her a $10 US tip for great service over many hours and lots of enthusiasm. I wandered the temples thinking of her hot little pussy most of the day.
Guys, this place is cool. I came to Siem Reap unprepared for any action. It turned out great. Went to Zone One with local friends and had a ball of time. Picked up a girl for $80, exceptional quality. May be expensive for Siem Reap but she was good.
Next day went to Platinum or Premier (don't remember the name ). The dance floor was hot. Picked up a youngling. Expensive for $150 for LT. Enjoyed every min.
It was a surprise as I came prepared just to stick with Angor. Turned out this place is ripe for future venture. Now that I got some good local friends, it is a place to try again.
What a shame to see people paying so much for taxi girls in siem riep. Prices are a little higher there than PP but paying anything over $50 is madness.
Cut it out guys, you are spoiling the girls.
For a $100 one can get a model in phnom penh, literally a model.
Most khmers work for a hundred dollars a month-never forget that please.
I picked up a cute chick at Mikey's Bar oposite the end of Pub St for $30 ST. I didn't bargain all that hard as I didn't fancy any of the other girls at that time. Paid another $5 for a clean room at a hotel nearby. She was about a 7. No complaints from me!
[QUOTE=Sharka; 1167698]The US dollar is the prefer currency in Cambo. Best thing is NOT to exchange anything. Just use the dollar and they will give you any change in local currency and after awhile you will accumulate more riels than you know what to do with. Don't forget to change it back to dollars before you leave as the reil is USELESS outside of Cambodia.
Shark[/QUOTE]In fact, at the Koh Kong border crossing with Thailand they won't even let you pay for your visa / tax / whatever it is in Cambodian riels or Thai bhat-it has to be dollars (I made a decent profit trading dollars to people stuck at the crossing for riel or euros.) (The also charge you more than the actual fee. If you argue with them you can get it knocked down but it makes them really unpleasant).
The only thing to remember with dollars is that you should do your best not to accept (or bring with you) anything the slightest bit torn, old, or written on. I had a $20 bill that some one drew a mustache on Andrew Jackson, and I tried using it everywhere I went for more than a week before I finally got some one to take it. Once I successfully bought some drinks with it, and when we were leaving the manager stopped us and demanded a different bill. It's a little crazy, but since every one seems to operate that way I can understand why no one would want to be stuck with it. The other thing is to avoid $50 and $100 bills, because no one ever wants to give change, and except in the most upscale places they'll be looked at with suspicion. This can be a problem, as some ATMs dispense $50's.
[QUOTE=JHS 42; 1198148]In fact, at the Koh Kong border crossing with Thailand they won't even let you pay for your visa / tax / whatever it is in Cambodian riels or Thai bhat-it has to be dollars (I made a decent profit trading dollars to people stuck at the crossing for riel or euros.) (The also charge you more than the actual fee. If you argue with them you can get it knocked down but it makes them really unpleasant).
The only thing to remember with dollars is that you should do your best not to accept (or bring with you) anything the slightest bit torn, old, or written on. I had a $20 bill that some one drew a mustache on Andrew Jackson, and I tried using it everywhere I went for more than a week before I finally got some one to take it. Once I successfully bought some drinks with it, and when we were leaving the manager stopped us and demanded a different bill. It's a little crazy, but since every one seems to operate that way I can understand why no one would want to be stuck with it. The other thing is to avoid $50 and $100 bills, because no one ever wants to give change, and except in the most upscale places they'll be looked at with suspicion. This can be a problem, as some ATMs dispense $50's.[/QUOTE]Have things changed in the last year? My experience has always been that they demand Thai baht. About 1200 of them equivalent to about $35 or so. And refuse $US. I have always said that I had no baht and showed them my previous Cambodian visas in my passport. After much bartering I have always managed to get in by offering $5 extra I. E. $25US. In fact, at the end of my last barter session the little lady with 2 stripes on her shoulder even gave me 2 bananas. So, smile, refuse to pay in baht and offer a sdmall bribe if you don't want to be there all night.
Back to the original question. Have they actually changed to dollars or is it still baht?
[QUOTE=D Cups;1189615]Is there happy pizza in Siem Reap? . Thanks.[/QUOTE]Use "search thread" function@top rt. Of this thread.
First time in Cambo and my tuktuk driver recommended a visit to Top Town which he says has the best selection of girls.
I stayed at the Angkor what Guesthouse which had a huge sign on the wall that it does not tolerate prostitution in the premises. Not a problem as my driver told me that the action will happen elsewhere.
I was led to a room where you get to choose among 50+ girls. You have all the different types and selection was overwhelming. Picked a cute Cambo little spinner for $50USD ST + mandatory $3USD Angkor Beer. You pay the mamasan upfront then you leave for a nearby short time guesthouse. Girl leaves on a different moto probably to conceal prostitution activities. Inside the room, girl takes a shower and then you take your turn. She was not keen on showering together. Most of the reviews here about NO BJ rule are correct. Not even DFK is allowed. Just straight up sex but open to all positions. All mechanical, no GFE sex. After the action, girl even asks for a tip. Gave her some spare riel just to get it over. Would recommend Thailand or Philippines for mongering. Cambodia is more for temple tourist activities.
Agent Orange. Sorry to hear of your bad luck. I was more fortunate back in June. I found all but one girl throughout Cambodia was just fine with BBBJ and DFK and the usual price was around $33-35 including a barfine. I went to Mikey's Bar at the end of Pub St in SR which was also a fun place for a few games of pool. I agree that Thai and Phils are generally more suited to us naughty boys. More choice too. I would still go back to Cambodia any day though. Good vibes.
Stayed in Golden Orange Hotel for 3 nights. There is tuk tuk attached to the hotel.
On the first day, after I returned from a visit to the Angkor what, the guy at the Reception asked me whether I wanted a massage. $% for a body massage for one hour and $10 for an oil massage for one hour. When I frowned at him, he said there is a maasage parlour at the corner and it is one dollar cheaper.
I thought it would be safer to have it in the hotel. Within a few minutes a massage lady knocked at the door. She was accompanied by the Receptionist.
I asked the lady about the rates once again and took a two hour oil massage. I got completely naked but the lady showed sign of shyness. She covered the dick with a towel.
The massage was very nice and at the end I was expecting a happy ending. I told her so but she seemed not to understand or may be pretended so. I gave her only $15 and she was very happy.
It was unlike Phnom Penh where the massage came to my hotel for boom boom and gave a poor massage.
I didn't go out after the massage as I was quite tired and took rest.
The next morning the tuk tuk driver came to meet me while I was having breakfast. I told him I had only massage and no boom boom. He told me for boom boom I have to bring lady from some other place and we can go in the evening.
I spent the whole day in the Old Town and when I reached the hotel, the tuk tuk driver was waiting for me. I took a bath and kept and my valuables in the room and took only $60 with me.
We drove along the National Highway 6 towards the Airport. But just before the Raffles, I saw some ladies standing in the park. I guess they were working girls. Anyway, we drove for around ten minutes and turned left along a small lane where I saw an indication Earthwalkers Guest House. 200 to 300 metres in the lane, there is a large compound on the right. Saw some tuk tuk and few well built men. My tuk tuk driver spoke with them in khmer and a lady took me inside. Around 50 ladies were sitting / standing in the lobby.
I got inside a room and the mamasan asked me what I wanted. I told a lady for the night. She called few ladies but not to my taste. She asked about my choice and called few others. I chose one but she was not ready for LT. Another group of ladies came. Three were giving smiles and were requesting me to take them. Finally, I chose a slim lady with good sized boobs.
The mamasan asked to take a beer. I said no, paid her $60 and came out. The lady together with the mamsan also came out and spoke with my tuk tuk driver. We left for the hotel while the lady came on a motocycle tuk tuk.
Manfield,
Thanks for the report $60 LT is a lot. I guess SR is just too expensive with all the international tourists there.
Anyway, can you tell us in which PP hotel you stayed that organised the boom boom massage? I hope it's not Flamingo because I hate that place.
Cheers
[QUOTE=D Cups;1202576]Can I get a Cambodian visa from the Siem Reap airport upon arrival? How much is it in USD please? Are the lines efficient or not so? Thanks very much for any replies. Going in November.[/QUOTE]Yes, you can. $20. 00. Line is efficient depending on the time of your arrival. It's a small airport.
Will be heading to Cambodia for a few days in a couple of months. I've done all the tourist bits of Siem Reap many times and since they cleared the freelancers out of Temple Club the best options in town were street walkers or blue wave.
Although it's a bit of a dive I was quite fond of blue wave, and one girl in particular, however I seem to remember hearing it shut down. Does anyone know if it just moved or if it's gone for good. If it's gone I think might skip SR and head straight to Phnom Penh.
[QUOTE=D Cups;1202576]Can I get a Cambodian visa from the Siem Reap airport upon arrival? How much is it in USD please? Are the lines efficient or not so? Thanks very much for any replies. Going in November.[/QUOTE]To D cup,
Visa on arrival your passport must be valid for 9 days before expire 20 USD and 2 passport photo and a empty page in your passport for the visa sticker.
Fast Eddie 48
[QUOTE=Noobmonger; 1202587]Will be heading to Cambodia for a few days in a couple of months. I've done all the tourist bits of Siem Reap many times and since they cleared the freelancers out of Temple Club the best options in town were street walkers or blue wave.
Although it's a bit of a dive I was quite fond of blue wave, and one girl in particular, however I seem to remember hearing it shut down. Does anyone know if it just moved or if it's gone for good. If it's gone I think might skip SR and head straight to Phnom Penh.[/QUOTE]I was in SR 1 month ago and passed the Blue Wave. Was with company so didn't enter but it was certainly open and in different location. It's on the stretch of main street opposite of Pub street and the outside night food market. I wish I could have checked the place out. Due to change of location they have to adapt a little since it's quite in the open and I saw a backpacker couple walking out of there and it looked as if they just had drinks only.
Looking for a girl friendly hotel in SR in near pub street / old market area, clean, with safebox in the room. Anybody with experince?
[QUOTE=Woxi53;1203960]Looking for a girl friendly hotel in SR in near pub street / old market area, clean, with safebox in the room. Anybody with experince?[/QUOTE]Golden orange hotel, Doug is very helpful.
[QUOTE=Mexico Larry;1208199]Golden orange hotel, Doug is very helpful.[/QUOTE]Doug is very helpful but Golden Orange is not in the vicinity of Pub Street. Try the Mandalay if you don't mind going a bit downmarket. Clean and beautiful but no safe boxes.
[QUOTE=D Cups;1208374]Thanks, Tan Man and Eddie. Did you guys happen to see any Cambodian girls with larger than average breasts? . Any intel appreciated![/QUOTE]Less than average and I should think deffo no enhanced (none I've seen). This is a country where tampons are the height of feminine modernity. Do Siem Reap for the beautiful culture and pleasant night life with cheap shagging thrown in. It's not going to break any p4p records easily.
Well, I can't speak Khmer, so I couldn't bargain. Further, I didn't want to invite any trouble as I was in their territory.
In PP, I stayed in Asia Hotel just in front of Diamond Hotel near the Central market. KFC is in the same building.
[QUOTE=Ppfrequentv; 1202460]Manfield,
Thanks for the report $60 LT is a lot. I guess SR is just too expensive with all the international tourists there.
Anyway, can you tell us in which PP hotel you stayed that organised the boom boom massage? I hope it's not Flamingo because I hate that place.
Cheers[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=D Cups;1208374]Thanks, Tan Man and Eddie. Did you guys happen to see any Cambodian girls with larger than average breasts? . Any intel appreciated![/QUOTE]Yes but you'll need to speak the language so you can ask the Tuk Tuk driver or Mamasan for your requirements.
Well, the Tuk Tuk driver does understand the language of sign and money, and few words of English. So, communication can be done quite easily but cannot insist with mamasan with regards to money as they become wild besides there being so many henchmen ready to pounce on you. It's better to do the deal and get away as soon as possible from their territory.
[QUOTE=Tanman005;1209634]Yes but you'll need to speak the language so you can ask the Tuk Tuk driver or Mamasan for your requirements.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Manfield04; 1208443]Well, I can't speak Khmer, so I couldn't bargain. Further, I didn't want to invite any trouble as I was in their territory.
In PP, I stayed in Asia Hotel just in front of Diamond Hotel near the Central market. KFC is in the same building.[/QUOTE]Was that an in-house massage girl at the Asia Hotel or someone from outside who came to your hotel? I take it the hotel itself was pretty guest friendly?
The Asia Hotel where I stayed is in Phnom Penh. The massage girl was called to the hotel by one staff from the hotel itself.
[QUOTE=Noobmonger;1217587]Was that an in-house massage girl at the Asia Hotel or someone from outside who came to your hotel?[/QUOTE]
Most of the hotels are girl friendly.
[QUOTE=Noobmonger;1217587]I take it the hotel itself was pretty guest friendly?[/QUOTE]
In Siem Reap, I stayed at Golden Orange Hotel which is very Girl Friendly. In fact, the tuk tuk attached to the hotel took me to select one girl and help bringing the girl to the hotel.
[QUOTE=Noobmonger;1217587]I take it the hotel itself was pretty guest friendly?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Manfield04;1217869]In Siem Reap, I stayed at Golden Orange Hotel which is very Girl Friendly. In fact, the tuk tuk attached to the hotel took me to select one girl and help bringing the girl to the hotel.[/QUOTE]I was actually talking about the Asia Hotel in PP but the confusing thing is that this is the Siem Reap thread. I did some searching and found out answers, should have done that before posting.
Whilst I'm here does anyone have any recent news from Siem Reap? Last time I was there the only action in the town center was at Blue Wave bar (now relocated?) and a few freelancers on pub street, but they'd been kicked out of the bars. After getting mugged whilst walking back to my hotel by one of the freelancers and her ladyboy friend I wasn't really in the mood to take any one off the street after that. I didn't fancy venturing out to the cheap shacks or spend north of 50 bucks in the clubs outside the center.
I'll be in Cambodia next month for a mongering trip and I've got the chance to spend a few days in Siem Reap before moving on to Phnom Penh, should I bother?
Siem Reap, as requested, recent news.
Well, Blue Wave is still pretty bad, maybe 5-6 girls in at the most. They charge about $5 for the guesthouse room and it's upto you to negotiate with the girl, around $20. Not much talent there.
Zone 1. The bar staff do not speak good english, and unfortunately it seems to have turned into a cock fest with the local guys, was packed yesterday and only a few girls, watch out for the LB's in there if you're thinking of picking up a freelancer. The prices still remain high. Draft $1. 5, short+mixer around $2. 5 Close 4/5am.
HipHop. Bar staff speak slightly better english, a lot of freelancers in here, but you can't sit down at a table unless you buy a jug ($4. 5) or something similar in value, and standing at the bar is murder as there are so many waiters serving. Draft is $1. 25 short+mixer is $3. 5. Be warned there's a lot of khmer guys taking their girlfriends out so make sure you don't put your foot in it, but it can be packed and a lot of freelancers frequent here. Close 4/5am.
Micky Bar, happy hour before 10pm, $.75 beer and $1. 5 short+mixer, after it's $1 and $2. 5, lots of freelancers (who also go off to Zone1, HipHop etc. Close last customer. 4/5am.
Snow world, sort of late night cafe boozer, some of the girls come in here if they don't get a customer, mainly locals but a few barang.
Pub Town, bar with 30/40 girls, mamasan run, $35 take out, $15 to the house, $20 to the girl. A little bit past Zone 1 (not exactly sure, I was drunk when I went).
The new nightclub between angkor market and lucky, formerly a kareoke place. You can't smoke inside (this will probably change) , the pole dancers are LB's, trying to push for a higher end clientele owned by the guys who own hiphop and temple club, if a barang goes in and orders say a jug of draft, they'll get charged $10 but if they're with a khmer and they order they will get charged $5.
Don't pick up from pub street the freelancers as they are the freelancers who can't even afford to go into a club / bar and get a drink. A few warnings, the LB's around here will mug you, so be careful if you're going to go where they are around. A few of the freelancers are thieves, so store your valuables and if taking to your guesthouse, make sure you tell reception to phone you when they leave, hide your stuff, better still, just take enough with you for the night and use a short time room and have no valuables worth stealing, there's one just of micky bar.
Haggle, most charge $20 short, $30 long, but you can get lower easy, specify what you want, ask when they have to leave etc, you know the drill folks.
[QUOTE=Small Dick; 1219123]Siem Reap, as requested, recent news.
Well, Blue Wave is still pretty bad, maybe 5-6 girls in at the most. They charge about $5 for the guesthouse room and it's upto you to negotiate with the girl, around $20. Not much talent there.
Zone 1. The bar staff do not speak good english, and unfortunately it seems to have turned into a cock fest with the local guys, was packed yesterday and only a few girls, watch out for the LB's in there if you're thinking of picking up a freelancer. The prices still remain high. Draft $1. 5, short+mixer around $2. 5 Close 4/5am.
HipHop. Bar staff speak slightly better english, a lot of freelancers in here, but you can't sit down at a table unless you buy a jug ($4. 5) or something similar in value, and standing at the bar is murder as there are so many waiters serving. Draft is $1. 25 short+mixer is $3. 5. Be warned there's a lot of khmer guys taking their girlfriends out so make sure you don't put your foot in it, but it can be packed and a lot of freelancers frequent here. Close 4/5am.
Micky Bar, happy hour before 10pm, $.75 beer and $1. 5 short+mixer, after it's $1 and $2. 5, lots of freelancers (who also go off to Zone1, HipHop etc. Close last customer. 4/5am.
Snow world, sort of late night cafe boozer, some of the girls come in here if they don't get a customer, mainly locals but a few barang.
Pub Town, bar with 30/40 girls, mamasan run, $35 take out, $15 to the house, $20 to the girl. A little bit past Zone 1 (not exactly sure, I was drunk when I went).
The new nightclub between angkor market and lucky, formerly a kareoke place. You can't smoke inside (this will probably change) , the pole dancers are LB's, trying to push for a higher end clientele owned by the guys who own hiphop and temple club, if a barang goes in and orders say a jug of draft, they'll get charged $10 but if they're with a khmer and they order they will get charged $5.
Don't pick up from pub street the freelancers as they are the freelancers who can't even afford to go into a club / bar and get a drink. A few warnings, the LB's around here will mug you, so be careful if you're going to go where they are around. A few of the freelancers are thieves, so store your valuables and if taking to your guesthouse, make sure you tell reception to phone you when they leave, hide your stuff, better still, just take enough with you for the night and use a short time room and have no valuables worth stealing, there's one just of micky bar.
Haggle, most charge $20 short, $30 long, but you can get lower easy, specify what you want, ask when they have to leave etc, you know the drill folks.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the update. I think I may just pass on Siem Reap. My history of mongering there hasn't been great where as I know my way around the PP scene.
I'll be in siem reap for a few days with friends before they head home, so I'll check out some of the places you mentioned and maybe extend my stay a day or two depending how things look before heading to PP.
I know blue wave is pretty bad, but I did find a girl there a year back who was a bit of a 6 looks wise but a great fuck, very enthusiastic and loved sucking cock. I was back earlier this year and she was still there, so I saw her a few times. I reckon I could probably get away from my friends for long enough to see if she's still there and get a ST with her in the rooms out back, but she's not worth staying longer for.
[QUOTE=D Cups; 1220020]Thanks for the update, SD. Have you seen any big boobs in SR? Sounds like Pub Town has the largest selection. It is my last night here and I need some sweet Cambodian pussy! Much obliged!
The D.[/QUOTE]Just back in the last hour from SR.
A few girls in Mikeys bar with big tits!
Also a couple of streetwalkers in Pub Street with big tits. Sadly the rest is bloody big too!
[QUOTE=Manfield04;1217863]The Asia Hotel where I stayed is in Phnom Penh. The massage girl was called to the hotel by one staff from the hotel itself.[/QUOTE]To Manfield:
I stay at the Asia hotel last time I was in PP the manager a Chinese guy ask me if I want girl 40 USD for all night, I am sure he get about a 10 USD cut from the girl all the girl are from bar around the hotel.
Fast Eddie 48
Three weeks vacation – Bangkok – Siem Reap – Phnom Penh – Vientienne – Northern Thailand (mates house) – Pattaya.
Thoughts on Siem Reap.
1. Taxi in from airport. $7. All ATMs in Cambodia give $. You get the local currency in change when less than a dollar.
2. Stayed in a small boutique hotel about 5 minutes walk from Pub Street. One of notices on wall said no guns, no drugs and no prostitution. A good choice as a hotel – comfortable and nice people and only $35 a night. There are loads of hotels but from what I saw the main need is to be close to the centre – although the ever present 'tuk tuk, massage, boom boom' is offered every couple of minutes.
3. Went for walk and decided on a 4 hand massage. Nice massage but no wandering until the larger one suggested an extra half hour massage which I took. Then all was on offer but not there – just HE and lots of touching 5/10. For the first time I note that Cambodian ladies don't shave.
4. Went for a nap then to Pub Street to eat and have a few beers. It was Christmas Eve and the Santa's were out in force (the music on Bangkok Air flight was Sinatra singing 'let it snow let it snow let it snow'. Clearly a few working girls along the street, back and forth back and forth. One was very attractive but I resisted. I followed one pair up and find that the base is Mikey's bar (so these are the free lancers described in a recent post). About 20 girls there – covering all tastes 4'd through to 8/9's). A very pretty young thing attached herself to me and was soon attacking me through my jeans – but I pled tiredness and promised to return the next day so she could be my Christmas present to myself.
5. Just before getting to the street with the hotel there was a massage parlour a really nice sort of hippie like lady with long hair and high cheek bones was sat outside. In we went. Good massage, HE, no FS but she was fully undressed. I enjoyed the hours. 8/10.
6. Round the temples all day – thankfully I took a taxi and not a tuk tuk. A lot of walking to see four what is in the same day but fabulous. Got back, had a nap and then to Pub St. Had a great massage – but no add-ons. Marvellous. 9/10. End of Pub St take a left and it's the second MP on the right.
7. Got back to the hotel and the receptionist says if I want they can arrange for a masseuse to visit my room. I say I will let them know.
8. Out at night, same attractive girl in Pub Street but I said no and then went to Mikeys. At one time I had the attractive one and the pretty one on my knee but the attractive one was a bit moody and left. I took the other round the corner to a small hotel $5 room plus $30 her. A complete disappointment, her only interest was in the $ and as short a time as possible (to be honest I can't really blame her). So just FS and her promising to see me on the morrow. 3/10.
9. Next morning I was reading in my room and decided to have massage. Asked the desk and the lady arrive about 10 minutes later; short, probably early 30's, big after child boobs. No oil so just a load of pulling and heaving and really quite professional. Until all the shifting about caused the towel to move and expose my very keen friend to fresh air. Within 5 minutes it turned into a glorious screwing session. Not the nicest looking lady of the first 8 days but great sex. We came and she lay in my arms and then she gave me a BBBJ CIM. I paid her $30 plus $6 for the massage. 9/10.
10. Out at night and end up where else but in Mikeys. A new girl introduced herself but I was on the look out for the attractive girl. The new one offered to massage me at the table and it was quite nice especially when she went up the legs of my shorts; then the girl from the previous night caught sight of us and started insulting my new friend, who to be honest got quite upset. I told her not to worry as we got the evil eye from the other. However about 10 minutes later I did say I wanted to be with the attractive one so I tipped her $5. Ten minutes later I was with the attractive one in the same room as the previous night. (The Aussie girl checking into the hotel when we arrived did not look too happy)! Just as the previous night a complete disappointment; apart from the added interest that she was lactating a complete waste of time. 3/10.
11. Next morning took the bus down to PP. $10; in preference to the boat as I am with my lap top and was worried it might get damaged. Getting on to the bus I dropped my equally expensive camera and now it won't work. Thats life.
Hello, Fast Eddie,
With me, the lady at the counter had asked whether I need a massage lady. I didn't discuss the price at the reception.
When the lady was brought to my room, I discussed the rate with the lady herself.
1 hour massage = $6 and ST $30 brought down to $20.
The same lasy services other guests of the hotel.
[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48; 1228803]To Manfield:
I stay at the Asia hotel last time I was in PP the manager a Chinese guy ask me if I want girl 40 USD for all night, I am sure he get about a 10 USD cut from the girl all the girl are from bar around the hotel.
Fast Eddie 48[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Cayec; 1230748]3. Went for walk and decided on a 4 hand massage. Nice massage but no wandering until the larger one suggested an extra half hour massage which I took. Then all was on offer but not there – just HE and lots of touching 5/10. For the first time I note that Cambodian ladies don't shave.
5. Just before getting to the street with the hotel there was a massage parlour a really nice sort of hippie like lady with long hair and high cheek bones was sat outside. In we went. Good massage, HE, no FS but she was fully undressed. I enjoyed the hours. 8/10.[/QUOTE]I'm in town at the moment and would love to know where these two places are. Especially the second one.
Sorry if this is a bit wordy, I can be somewhat verbose at time.
I generally travel with other people and was a bit of a fan of this place for a quick and easy on site screw before it moved locations. This is more a review of the new bar than the girl I took.
It's new location and decor makes it much more appealing place to eat or drink in. However for people like me this is a disadvantage. My previous MO was walk in, buy a beer, the girls would circle me I'd pick one, go out back to the ST hotel and screw her. Normally the place was empty or had one other person who was in there for the same reasons as me. The girls were all 5s or 6s but the attraction was in the convenience.
The new place is a proper ladybar and restaurant. I walked in about 7:30pm and grabbed a beer, only 2 girls there at the time. Signs on the wall say Lady Drink is normal price + $1. One sits next to me and asks if I'd like to play pool. At the time there was a couple eating food outside, I figured they were far enough away to not notice me sneak off with on of the girls. But whilst I was playing pool a group of female tourists arrived and a few single men. Not such a quick and dirty lay any more. I wasn't keen on the girl I was playing pool with (about a 6) but the other was quite fine (about 8 or 9, nice tits). I played pool for about an hour and finally the bar died down to just a few single men who looked like they might be there for the same reasons I was. I asked the owner if there were still rooms out back. Seems there is a room upstairs. 25 bucks, same as before. Unfortunately the nice lady had received some texts messages that I guess were from a previous punter as she was getting the owner to translate for her. It seems he was arranging to see her again and she was off the market so I took the other girl.
The room upstairs was very dimly lit, probably for the best. There was a mattress on the floor, I'm not sure I really wanted to see what it looked like in good lighting. There was no ensuite, I was handed a towel and a bar of soap and directed to the toilets across from the room. These seem to be the same toilets the customers for the bar use so there is the chance of walking out with a towel wrapped round you and bumping into tourists using the facilities.
Anyway, the chick's tits were pretty much hanging down to belly button "no good. 2 babies" she told me. She was stick thin, some guys like this but I prefer something to grab hold of. She asked me if I wanted a massage but I just wanted to get on with it. Her oral was good, and she was quite responsive to the reverse oral, sex was ok but the location didn't really encourage me to make the most of it so I shot my load and left.
The new bar is obviously making a lot more money for the owner, they had many customers in there drinking and eating. I don't know if there are normally more girls there but I expect so. I'm a fairly private individual and not too keen on doing my mongering in public unless it is around like minded people. I didn't feel comfortable picking up in there. Also I'm not travelling alone so I couldn't take anyone to my hotel meaning I had to make use of the rooms they provide. At their previous location is was a cheap ST hotel, but here it is a fairly grotty room above the bar, pretty uncomfortable surroundings and really only advisable if you really just want a quick screw like I did.
Would I go back? Only if the other girl was available and it was later (I. E less people around) , but I'm not sure even she could make up for the onsite room. Hopefully I can control my urges for the last the couple of days I have left here before I move onto PP. I just need to find some massage parlours like those mentioned a few posts above.
[QUOTE=Noobmonger;1231228]I'm in town at the moment and would love to know where these two places are. Especially the second one.[/QUOTE]Secon one. Towards the bridge up from Mikeys just before turn on left Psakrom Road. Hotel Villa Medamrei. First. Walk through Pub Street from Mikey end turn left and first massage on left.
[QUOTE=Cayec;1237618]Secon one. Towards the bridge up from Mikeys just before turn on left Psakrom Road. Hotel Villa Medamrei. First. Walk through Pub Street from Mikey end turn left and first massage on left.[/QUOTE]Well I could have done with the info 2 weeks ago, but I'll keep it in mind for next time I'm there. Thanks.
[QUOTE=Cayec;1237618]Secon one. Towards the bridge up from Mikeys just before turn on left Psakrom Road. Hotel Villa Medamrei. First. Walk through Pub Street from Mikey end turn left and first massage on left.[/QUOTE]I'm having a hard time with your directions. I know Villa Medamrei, if I want to find the second one where the girl was undressed how would I get there from Villa Medamrei?
Do you remember what was next door to this place? Or it's name and what it looked like? I'm looking for a good massage experience and have been in town for a while.
I would be really greatfull if you could mark it on a google map but description from Villa Medamrei is fine.
THe MP girls come to your hotel for $5 / hour plus tip!
Hopefully I did these photos correctly. Cunning Stunt has been helping me but I want to try this solo. Jackson, maybe you can help me resize these and more to come. I followed the directions in the download but the damn site never works for me. I'm tired of wasting my time trying to do something that should be so simple.
[QUOTE=D Cups; 1245965]THe MP girls come to your hotel for $5 / hour plus tip!
Hopefully I did these photos correctly. Cunning Stunt has been helping me but I want to try this solo. Jackson, maybe you can help me resize these and more to come. I followed the directions in the download but the damn site never works for me. I'm tired of wasting my time trying to do something that should be so simple.[/QUOTE]Let's see if this works. Asia Rain, are you paying attention?
[QUOTE=OxfordBob; 1244770]I'm having a hard time with your directions. I know Villa Medamrei, if I want to find the second one where the girl was undressed how would I get there from Villa Medamrei?
Do you remember what was next door to this place? Or it's name and what it looked like? I'm looking for a good massage experience and have been in town for a while.
I would be really greatfull if you could mark it on a google map but description from Villa Medamrei is fine.[/QUOTE]Sorry. It is on right walking up from Mikeys, just before U-turn corner to the Villa; some ladies are usually sat outside. Its not more than 100 m from the villa.
[QUOTE=Cayec;1247746]Sorry. It is on right walking up from Mikeys, just before U-turn corner to the Villa; some ladies are usually sat outside. Its not more than 100 m from the villa.[/QUOTE]Found New Jasmine MP, from these directions (on left hand side just before turning for Villa) , but the masseur did not undress and it was a pretty boring massage.
Did I go to the right place? Can anyone else suggest a better place for massages?
Thanks
[QUOTE=Dbelle4500; 1252947]Found New Jasmine MP, from these directions (on left hand side just before turning for Villa) , but the masseur did not undress and it was a pretty boring massage.
Did I go to the right place? Can anyone else suggest a better place for massages?
Thanks[/QUOTE]I wouldn't waste anymore time Dbelle. I think that the previous poster is making things up.
I know I have not been a regular poster but I have to admit my frustration with most of these 'reports'.
Nobody ever gives enough details for anyone else to find these places. I happen to live in SR and enjoy a regular HJ with my oil massage. It is getting more difficult to locate parlours / masseuses that will give them. I had a place that I frequented but now the 2 women that did them have quit and none of the new ones offer. I'm trying to find a new place.
To be of help to others you should at least post the exact name of the MP and the approximate (if not exact location, eg what's next door) and the name of the masseuse that gave the great service and the time of day you went. (yes it matters)
Please if this is going to be a source of info provide the details, otherwise you are just bragging or full of shit. I think Cayec is lying as I have been to BOTH massage places 2x near the corner of Villa Mademrie and not only was not offered a HJ or remove clothes (complete lie, in the 50+ HJ's I've had not one has done this) they did everything they could to avoid my dick and the massages were average.
So in the future without names and locations you are just bragging and not helping a single guy get his happy ending.
I arrived this morning from PP with VIP shuttle service. When we arrived at their office a tuk tuk driver solicited me and told me that he would take me to my hotel for free if I would hire him the next day. I told him no but made a deal to pay him $2 to take me to the hotel. By the time we arrived I decided that I would hire him for later on in the evening to catch the sunset at Angkor what and to do the temple tour tomorrow starting at sunrise. He asked $8 for today and $15 for tomorrow. I had already done my homework and that seemed like the pricing I had read about. I got to the hotel at 1pm. He said he would pick me up at 4pm.
We set out at 4pm but he misunderstood and took me to Tonle Sap Lake. I said no dude I am going to Angkor what so I can get some sunset photos. Too bad I had already paid the $2 entrance fee. He made a you-turn and headed for the temple. It was dark when I left out of the temple grounds. I told the driver that I wanted to stop at KFC then set out to find some women. I told him I wanted to check out Top Town first to see how it was but I most likely would not take anyone. Next I wanted to go wherever there were women available. When we got back to the hotel I gave him $15.
The driver told me that prostitution is illegal here but the person who owns Top Town is one of the top police officers and is well connected. That is how he is able to skirt the law. He said that he had taken a gentleman there last night and he had paid $80 for 3 hours. He said the usual price is $50 though. He said it was about 20 minutes from KFC and the reports that I had read on the place made it seem pretty far away out in the sticks.
Actually Top Town was only 10 minutes from KFC. After passing the Ford dealership we made the next left. The dirt road was bumpy at first but then it smoothed out. Top Town KTV was on our right with bright signage at the top of the building. I wanted to take a picture but I noticed about 4 security guys outside.
We walked in the door to a big room with one set of chairs facing another set of chairs. There were wall to wall women sitting and standing. I was led back to a room with couches. I protested telling the mamasan that it is easier for me to see standing outside among all the women more so than it is with them coming in a few at a time. So she let me go back to the foyer. I wasn't overjoyed with the selection. Like a poster said before there had to be about 50 women, but none to my liking. I asked the mamasan how much it would cost and she said $50, then she wrote down $60. I said for how much time. She said 1 hour.
To get out of the awkward situation I told the mamasan that I would like to fuck her. She said I couldn't because she is the mamasan. Some of the girl started laughing. We went outside to drive away. I told the driver that the lady said it was $60. He said no it is only $50. We can go back and talk about it if you want. I told him no thanks. I just wanted to get a feel for the place.
When we left Top Town I told the driver to show me the place where the locals go to get pussy. He said they go the same places foreigners go. I said bullshit. Where do you get $50 from to pay for pussy? He ran into another driver and asked him where to go. At first we went to some karaoke joint and he asked about girls. The people started laughing but directed us around the corner and down the street to the right place. He had told me that it was $30. We almost pulled up to a place called Smiley's Guesthouse. But right before you enter the gate there is an alley. There were 5 girls and 2 or 3 guys in the alley. One girl touched my chest and said something then walked off. The driver spoke to another one who must have been about 35. She asked if I wanted a massage and I said no. I want to fuck. How much? She said $30. I said that is too much. The driver said it doesn't get any cheaper than that even for him. I told him to take me back to the hotel. Then all of a sudden the price dropped to $20. I told him that I had fucked chicks for $15 and $20 last night in PP so I would just try my luck later on Pub Street or wait until I got back to PP. As he was dropping me back at the hotel I noticed that the alley was only about 3 minutes from KFC.
Hey Mr Enternational.
Really enjoying your updates. Never been to Siem Reap so don't know the actual prices there.
I'm only familiar with Phnom Penh.
Just remember these Tuk Tuk drivers get their commission from the pimps of these establishments so that's why they are jacking up the price.
If you can get the Tuk Tuk drivers to let you off a block from your destination, walk in alone, you would probably get better price offered to you.
Tom.
Went to Blue 7 Massage at around 10 pm, next to Home Cocktail one block North of Pub Street. Asked for a 1 hour oil massage and a woman named Mum (not sure on spelling) gave me a decent massage starting with me face down.
She teased my dick and balls for a few minutes while I was on my stomach. After I turned over she really went to work teasing my cock. She then.
Asked "massage here?" rubbing my hard cock.
When I said yes she pushed my legs open and went to town giving me one of the best HJ's I've ever had.
She's not a looker but damn skillful with her hands.
Massage was a little above average but HJ was fucking great. Will be going again soon.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1260942]She said $30. I said that is too much. The driver said it doesn't get any cheaper than that even for him.[/QUOTE]No way any locals pay $30 or about a weeks profit for one bang. From all my times in Cambo, the avg price the locals pay at a local brothel is about $4-5. But if we are talking about higher end clubs then those prices are even more for rich locals than for us. But for a commom driver they pay local rates at local brothels (that only caters to them and we are not allowed in). They often won't bother to show us the real local cheap places as we won't be accepted there. Its just the way they do business in Cambo.
About 5 years ago when I was there, I found some lady houses in the side streets very close from the main Sivatha Road, mostly Vietnamese girls. They sat outside and called out to customers, I remembered I tried to take one with nice body and huge tits to hotel but the mamasan won't allow, so did it the house, paid 7 USD. I am sure locals pay less, maybe 5 USD.
Last year went there again, walked around trying to find the lady houses, but could not find any in the side streets of the main road. Asked the hotel bellboy, he said there are many but away from the tourist areas, offered to take me there after work, but I wasn't interested in these rough adventures anymore. I am sure the price would still be about the same.
As I was walking from my hotel to Pub Street a motorcycle taxi stopped and offered to take me to women. I told him that I had already been to Top Town and Smileys. He said no it was another place. I jumped on. He made a left on Achamean St (coming from Pub Street). The place was on the right after passing Jap...? Street (can't read the name on these online maps). There were 5 Vietnamese girls sitting on 2 sofas. They told me the price would be $30. I told them that I would pay no more than $20. I told the motorcycle guy to take me to Pub Street. He kept talking to the girls. The price went down to $25. I was ready to go and got on the bike. They talked about calling to ask the mamasan. I never saw them call anybody but the price went down to $20. Was it worth it? Not to me. But I wanted to check Vietnamese off my list of nationalities.
Of course I know that the prices get jacked up because of the guy who brings you. And I know there is no way the locals are paying these prices; especially when I am only giving a guy $13 for a day's work. But being a foreigner and getting a ride from a local who wants his cut, sometimes you have to pay the jack tax.
I stayed few days in Siem Reap for the temples. But, after some time, I wanted a bit of honey. I was not there for mongering as my first concern but, anyway, I decided to give a try. Almost any tuk tuk or moto driver was offering a girl but I had no intention to buy something I could not see. So I decided to help myself and wandering in search of a good MP. I have to admit that I was mostly scared by most of them because of the location and general conditions. I also realized that most of the times the rates you discuss in the street are quite different from the ones you have to pay once you are inside. Anyway one night I went into a decent MP in Road 6. No fish bowl or whatsoever. One girl only available, thanks god young and not bad at all. One hour oil massage for 4 US dollars. The only thing on the menu was HJ, which I got for 2 dollars more. Not pleasant at all. Temples offer more fun.
So, what was the name of this MP? Can you describe the girl? Did you get her name? Your report lacks any detail.
[QUOTE=SmartEuropean;1275871]I stayed few days in Siem Reap for the temples. But, after some time, I wanted a bit of honey. I was not there for mongering as my first concern but, anyway, I decided to give a try. Almost any tuk tuk or moto driver was offering a girl but I had no intention to buy something I could not see. So I decided to help myself and wandering in search of a good MP. I have to admit that I was mostly scared by most of them because of the location and general conditions. I also realized that most of the times the rates you discuss in the street are quite different from the ones you have to pay once you are inside. Anyway one night I went into a decent MP in Road 6. No fish bowl or whatsoever. One girl only available, thanks god young and not bad at all. One hour oil massage for 4 US dollars. The only thing on the menu was HJ, which I got for 2 dollars more. Not pleasant at all. Temples offer more fun.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational; 1265472]As I was walking from my hotel to Pub Street a motorcycle taxi stopped and offered to take me to women. I told him that I had already been to Top Town and Smileys. He said no it was another place. I jumped on. He made a left on Achamean St (coming from Pub Street). The place was on the right after passing Jap? Street (can't read the name on these online maps). There were 5 Vietnamese girls sitting on 2 sofas. They told me the price would be $30. I told them that I would pay no more than $20. I told the motorcycle guy to take me to Pub Street. He kept talking to the girls. The price went down to $25. I was ready to go and got on the bike. They talked about calling to ask the mamasan. I never saw them call anybody but the price went down to $20. Was it worth it? Not to me. But I wanted to check Vietnamese off my list of nationalities.
Of course I know that the prices get jacked up because of the guy who brings you. And I know there is no way the locals are paying these prices; especially when I am only giving a guy $13 for a day's work. But being a foreigner and getting a ride from a local who wants his cut, sometimes you have to pay the jack tax.[/QUOTE]
A picture of the Vietnamese lass would have been preferable, or was she just as basic as the room?
[QUOTE=Pinche Gringo;1275987]So, what was the name of this MP? Can you describe the girl? Did you get her name? Your report lacks any detail.[/QUOTE]I do not remember the name and I doubt there was one. I can only add that it is close to Street Tapoul Village. There are two very close. The smaller one. The girl was a quite pretty girl: legs, tits, face, something like that, you know. But you do not need a description, since she is the only one available. I gave the details I had, of course, and if you want to know more, you should ask in a more polite way, IMHO.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1265472]But being a foreigner and getting a ride from a local who wants his cut, sometimes you have to pay the jack tax.[/QUOTE]The bad side is that I think you do not get your Marriott points in that hotel.
Everything I wrote was true. I have better things to do that take time to write a load of shite on this board! As I wrote it is on the right just before U-turn down to the Villa; as far as I recall it is the only one there. If I was walking back it was pretty late. Probably close to midnight. But I recall the following day when I wandered past early afternoon the lady in qeustion was sat outside.
[QUOTE=OxfordBob; 1253967]I wouldn't waste anymore time Dbelle. I think that the previous poster is making things up.
I know I have not been a regular poster but I have to admit my frustration with most of these 'reports'.
Nobody ever gives enough details for anyone else to find these places. I happen to live in SR and enjoy a regular HJ with my oil massage. It is getting more difficult to locate parlours / masseuses that will give them. I had a place that I frequented but now the 2 women that did them have quit and none of the new ones offer. I'm trying to find a new place.
To be of help to others you should at least post the exact name of the MP and the approximate (if not exact location, eg what's next door) and the name of the masseuse that gave the great service and the time of day you went. (yes it matters)
Please if this is going to be a source of info provide the details, otherwise you are just bragging or full of shit. I think Cayec is lying as I have been to BOTH massage places 2x near the corner of Villa Mademrie and not only was not offered a HJ or remove clothes (complete lie, in the 50+ HJ's I've had not one has done this) they did everything they could to avoid my dick and the massages were average.
So in the future without names and locations you are just bragging and not helping a single guy get his happy ending.[/QUOTE]
I didn't get into SR until midnight. I stayed at golden orange. Wifi and AC was good but there is no safe in the room. It is 15 per night so I didn't care too much.
Toptown was already closed when I made it there. The tuk tuk driver took me to Tiger Massage and select a slim 21yr old Khmer girl outside of the dance club. Negotiated 60 for all night with the mamasan. The girl did not understand english but was very GFE. She got wet pretty fast after I start playing with her. She stayed the entire night and I popped 4 times with her so I would say it is a good deal. I did the last pop to wake her up and get out of the bed. I started playing with her 3rd hold so I think she got the idea and got up. Gave her the money and tip. I walk her down.
Went to toptown the following night and got an older Khmer girl (25?). She understand some english (not a good feeling). She start asking why I have 2 condom out. I guess she is expecting 1 pop for all night (another red flag). She start asking to leave after the second pop. I was tired and annoyed so I said ok. Then she want tip for 2nd pop but I said I am letting her go early so wave goodbye and see her out of the room. I think Tiger was better than toptown, at least for me. Cambodia is too far but I enjoy it more than south america. I am cheap so I like the price.
I don't think anyone mentioned tiger but give it a shot.
Enjoy
Even if you were telling the truth (which I don't think you are) the place you are referring to has closed. So anyone reading this shouldn't waste their time looking for this place. And besides the massages there as I said before were average at best and no offer of HJ.
I do have a place and a girl's name that gives great HJ's and I' willing to trade with anyone who offers something different. Possibly a massage girl that gives BBBJ for a reasonable price. Or at least a girl / massage place that gives good HJ's, I like to change things up sometimes.
[QUOTE=Cayec;1290663]Everything I wrote was true. I have better things to do that take time to write a load of shite on this board! As I wrote it is on the right just before U-turn down to the Villa; as far as I recall it is the only one there. If I was walking back it was pretty late. Probably close to midnight. But I recall the following day when I wandered past early afternoon the lady in qeustion was sat outside.[/QUOTE]
Can anyone recommend any in room massages in the hotels? Do the girls offer extras? Will be visiting in a couple weeks.
[QUOTE=Erich711;1312064]Can anyone recommend any in room massages in the hotels? Do the girls offer extras? Will be visiting in a couple weeks.[/QUOTE]The massage girls on call to the Wooden Angkor Hotel, provide all extras!
Great! What kind of prices are they charging?
Thanks!
[QUOTE=Erich711; 1312536]Great! What kind of prices are they charging?
Thanks![/QUOTE]$20 and up + the massage call out charge of $6/7
[QUOTE=Erich711;1312064]Can anyone recommend any in room massages in the hotels? Do the girls offer extras? Will be visiting in a couple weeks.[/QUOTE]Maybe the question should be the other way around. Which hotel has a decent massage with inroom service where the girls offer extra.
[QUOTE=Bionicman;1312936]Maybe the question should be the other way around. Which hotel has a decent massage with inroom service where the girls offer extra.[/QUOTE]Ok so then. Where are the best places to get a decent outcall to come to the Hotel?
[QUOTE=Erich711;1312958]Ok so then. Where are the best places to get a decent outcall to come to the Hotel?[/QUOTE]Some larger hotels have their own massage girls, whilst the majority are called in upon request. I think you will find that there are no outcall parlours where all the girls offer extras. Some will and others won't. Trial and error, and sods law. Note down the phone numbers and names of those that do.
[QUOTE=Bumholes1;1313257]Some larger hotels have their own massage girls, whilst the majority are called in upon request. I think you will find that there are no outcall parlours where all the girls offer extras. Some will and others won't. Trial and error, and sods law. Note down the phone numbers and names of those that do.[/QUOTE]Thanks BH. Looks like I'll be staying at the Allson Angkor Paradise. Wondering if they have in-room service or is it in walking distance for Oasis?
[QUOTE=OxfordBob; 1264099]Went to Blue 7 Massage at around 10 pm, next to Home Cocktail one block North of Pub Street. Asked for a 1 hour oil massage and a woman named Mum (not sure on spelling) gave me a decent massage starting with me face down.
She teased my dick and balls for a few minutes while I was on my stomach. After I turned over she really went to work teasing my cock. She then.
Asked "massage here?" rubbing my hard cock.
When I said yes she pushed my legs open and went to town giving me one of the best HJ's I've ever had.
She's not a looker but damn skillful with her hands.
Massage was a little above average but HJ was fucking great. Will be going again soon.[/QUOTE]Ok, so I was not mistaken that this place was a bit dodgey! I was there late August / early September in the afternoon with a friend who really needed a leg / foot massage. I decided on a simple scrub and was lead upstairs. There, I was told to strip down which I felt was a bit strange but ok. Very nice scrub but the girl asked me at one point where was I sleeping? I thought it was a bit weird but given that she could not avoid seeing my hard-on waving in her face she probably thought it was a good idea to ask in case I wanted take-out.
Unfortunately, could not partake but hope to go back soon!
BTW, this was the only massage place where I thought that you can do take-away. I went to two other places and they were all "clean".
Hi brothers,
I will stay at the sofitel angkor between the 28th October and the 2 th November.
Any action just near this hotel and possible to bring a girl inside the hotel?
And what's the most upsale place to pick one?
Money is not a issue for my fantasy.
Thanks in advance
The Sofitel is the closest 5-star hotel to the temples but it's a bit far from Pub Street where a lot of the action is. It's US$2 for a tuk tuk ride to Pub St.
This place seems to be establishing itself as a restaurant, and the bar at the rear, which was partially separated from the front is now as one with the restaurant.
Went for a "drink" last night at 11. 30pm, and it was closed up, yet it was full of diners earlier in the evening!
Doesn't leave much other than Mikeys bar for pay and play.
[QUOTE=Fingen1; 1334329]Money is not a issue for my fantasy.
Thanks in advance[/QUOTE]Do you have some kind of Tomb Raider fantasy or something? I mean, Siem Reap is pretty low on the list of monger destinations in South East Asia. If money is not an issue, go to Japan, Hong Kong or Singapore. Angkor what is five star and I guess there might be a few five star hotels in Siem Reap, but the city itself and the action within are two stars are best.
[QUOTE=Punk Boulala;1337206]Siem Reap, but the city itself and the action within are two stars are best.[/QUOTE]Why'd you give it the second star?
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1337343]Why'd you give it the second star?[/QUOTE]I'd give it 2 stars. There are girls available, and they are far nicer in general than Thai girls.
I'd choose Siem Reap anyday over the shit-hole that Pattaya has become!
Ok, in 15 days, I will stay at the sofitel angkor, in a suite, so for this trip, money is not an issue.
It is not 1 or 2 cambodgian WG who will explode my budget.
4 questions :
1) Is this 5 stars hotel GF?
2) Where can I find top "mannequin look" WG?
3) Is there a onsite-hotel-massage with happy ending?
4) Is there is siem reap a place like a fish tank I usually visited in Thailand?
Thanks in advance brothers.
[QUOTE=Rhode1; 1337496]Ok, in 15 days, I will stay at the sofitel angkor, in a suite, so for this trip, money is not an issue.
It is not 1 or 2 cambodgian WG who will explode my budget.
4 questions :
1) Is this 5 stars hotel GF? . Unlikely.
2) Where can I find top "mannequin look" WG? . Not likely to find one in SR.
3) Is there a onsite-hotel-massage with happy ending? . You have to take pot luck.
4) Is there is siem reap a place like a fish tank I usually visited in Thailand? . No.
Thanks in advance brothers.[/QUOTE]See attached answers to your questions. You are in the wrong place for what you are looking for!
[QUOTE=Rhode1;1337496]Ok, in 15 days, I will stay at the sofitel angkor, in a suite, so for this trip, money is not an issue.[/QUOTE]15 days in Siem Reap?! After 48 hours I was glad to get the hell up out of that place.
[QUOTE=Bumholes1; 1337362]I'd give it 2 stars. There are girls available, and they are far nicer in general than Thai girls.
I'd choose Siem Reap anyday over the shit-hole that Pattaya has become![/QUOTE]B holes, what has happened toPattaya? Has been a little over a decade since I have been, but had gone off and on from 97. I figured it was only a matter of time before it would lose it flair once Starbucks started springing up! I am planning my first Cambodian experience for mid Feb and had intentions to cross the border to Thailand for a day or two, or three but fear it won't be as good as it was back then. I'm rolling solo and planned to call SR "home" for he week or so that I was there. From the sounds of things, I may have to reconsider and post up in PP. Any advice for this first timer, Cambodia first timer that is.
[QUOTE=Fairfromjerz;1343001]B holes, what has happened toPattaya? Has been a little over a decade since I have been, but had gone off and on from 97. I figured it was only a matter of time before it would lose it flair once Starbucks started springing up! I am planning my first Cambodian experience for mid Feb and had intentions to cross the border to Thailand for a day or two, or three but fear it won't be as good as it was back then. I'm rolling solo and planned to call SR "home" for he week or so that I was there. From the sounds of things, I may have to reconsider and post up in PP. Any advice for this first timer, Cambodia first timer that is.[/QUOTE]Since I live in Pattaya I may be a bit biased, but to me there is nothing like it (and I have been a lot of fucking places). Being a first timer in Cambodia my 1 night in PP. 2 nights in SR, and 1 night in PP worked out just fine. I got in all my tourist stuff and took in most of the mongering places. Any more time than that and I would have been bored to death.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1343197]Since I live in Pattaya I may be a bit biased, but to me there is nothing like it (and I have been a lot of fucking places). Being a first timer in Cambodia my 1 night in PP. 2 nights in SR, and 1 night in PP worked out just fine. I got in all my tourist stuff and took in most of the mongering places. Any more time than that and I would have been bored to death.[/QUOTE]Mr E, having the fortune of living in the mongering mecca, I would naturally imagine that Thailand is where you heart and loyality lie. So a bias is to be expected, but bored? I'm planing to stay for about a week or so. Hopefully you are being a little over dramatic. If not, might have to hop on a bird in PP and pay a quick visit to Nana Plaza for the cure to any bordem that might set in.
[QUOTE=Fairfromjerz;1343001]B holes, what has happened toPattaya? Has been a little over a decade since I have been, but had gone off and on from 97. I figured it was only a matter of time before it would lose it flair once Starbucks started springing up! I am planning my first Cambodian experience for mid Feb and had intentions to cross the border to Thailand for a day or two, or three but fear it won't be as good as it was back then. I'm rolling solo and planned to call SR "home" for he week or so that I was there. From the sounds of things, I may have to reconsider and post up in PP. Any advice for this first timer, Cambodia first timer that is.[/QUOTE]There are very few bars in Siem Reap, although 2 new ones have sprung up in the past month.
There is Sunny Bar, just south of the infamous Mikeys, and also the Doghouse,.on the first floor. Just round the corner from Pub Street.
A few streetwalkers to be had on Pub Street after 8pm and also down by the river opposite the new night market.
Apart from this there are all the out of town KTV's which any tuk- tuk driver will take you to, and if you get to know a tuk-tuk driver well, he will take you to some much cheaper joints full of Vietnamese girls.
[QUOTE=Bumholes1; 1337362]I'd give it 2 stars. There are girls available, and they are far nicer in general than Thai girls.
I'd choose Siem Reap anyday over the shit-hole that Pattaya has become![/QUOTE]2 stars? I don't know how you could give it even one star. Siem Reap has got to be one of the worst mongering destinations in SE Asia.
Not talking about Thai vs. Cambodian girls here. Just Siem Reap. And Siem Reap is awful! Selection is terrible. Most hotels pushing this ridiculous 'joiners fee'. WTF is that? Girl friendly hotels are the norm in SE Asia, not the exception!
[QUOTE=IFRpilot99; 1347980]2 stars? I don't know how you could give it even one star. Siem Reap has got to be one of the worst mongering destinations in SE Asia.
Not talking about Thai vs. Cambodian girls here. Just Siem Reap. And Siem Reap is awful! Selection is terrible. Most hotels pushing this ridiculous 'joiners fee'. WTF is that? Girl friendly hotels are the norm in SE Asia, not the exception![/QUOTE]To each there own.
I have had much success in Siem Reap, with no joiners fees. Admittedly there is less to choose from, but those I have taken have given far superior service than their Thai cousins.
It isn't quite as simple as shopping in Big C, where you just select and place in the basket. It needs persuasion on occasions and is a challenge I enjoy. Results very rewarding!
[QUOTE=Bumholes1;1348995]It isn't quite as simple as shopping in Big C, where you just select and place in the basket. It needs persuasion on occasions and is a challenge I enjoy. Results very rewarding![/QUOTE]That is why god made non-pros for persuasion and challenges. Who the hell wants to go through trying to convince a hooker to go with them? That's their job in the first damn place. That's like going to McDonald's and begging them to serve you a hamburger.
There is a post about an MP west of Sivatha Street way back, said to be past what looks like a gay place and on the route to the Artisan Training Centre.
From brothels in Costa Rica to the same in the Philippines (east or west about) I have never visited such a disgusting dirty place.
There were a dozen tired looking prostitutes lying about on the floor. Without transgressing any rules I would have wanted to see the IDs for age of a few.
I picked a buxom lass for $5 oil massage in the interests of information. The room was dirty, the floors filthy, the wall stained and I doubt the bed sheet had seen water in a year.
Nothing venture, I started the $5 massage and within 5 minutes we were into the 'interested in boom boom' whisper. I negotiated that a HJ would be $10 and FS $20. After 15 minutes
Of constant pestering for FS I dressed and left.
No self respecting mongerer would consider such a dirty place.
On a more positive note, and I won't name the MPs around Pub Street, my three oil massages at different MPs could all have ended with an HJ on the premises and all three ladies were prepared to come to my hotel for 'boom boom. ' I did not negotiate but I think a $7 in hotel massage might get you $20 / hour FS
Greetings, I am visiting Angkor / Siem Reap in a few weeks and had a few questions:
1) Is the Borei hotel / Privilege Floor Girl Friendly?
2) What are the best place for action on late a late Sunday night, or is Pub Street just the best place anytime?
3) What are good places for daytime action?
Thanks in advance for the help
So we the cab driver that drove us to Angor what all day says he knows where to pull girls. OK! We already walked around Pub Street and there were some FL, most somewhat rough looking. We also stopped at the Doghouse which is right in the Pub Street area. It's on the second frloor and you can see if from Mickeys. (Rough crew at Mickeys) There was nothing at the Doghouse although we might have been early at 10:45 but I doubt it.
So after the sunset at AW we shower up, dinner up, and head to the girls place. He takes us to Top Town KTV. I'm skeptical before I even walk in and am ready to hit the road but Bob wants to see what the deal is. Walk in and there are 20-30 howling girls. Get led to a room and then the lineup. Very hard sell. Mama quotes $50 to take a girl out to the stabbin cabin. I'm sure the cabin is at least $20, then the towel, and then you have to work a deal with the girl. One wanted $50, then another 20 for yam yam. They hate giving head here. It must be a cultural thing. I pass and we high tale it out of there. Note: The streets are dusty here so you will need a shower after a tuk tuk ride.
All I want is a massage and a oral happy ending. So the guy takes us down another dusty road where we have to wait for a moto to guide us in. I'm thinking this is not looking good. We get taken to a dump. I tell them I want a rub and a BJ. $70. At this point all I want to do is get a BJ so we settle on $50. I know nuts but the girl is actually kinda cute. Back in the room. (did I really lay on that bed?) My only saving grace is I can either take forever to nut or do it in 5 minutes. I take the 5 minute route and get the hell out. Now I got to give the girl credit for performance. Best BJ since I got here.
If anyone wants the location I could send you the drivers number. I would not repeat unless I could get the same girl for carry out.
Off to Pats tomorrow.
General thoughts on Cambo. Don't go there if all you're looking for is girls. You will be disappointed, not in the quality of the girls, or their playfulness, but the performance is definitely not GFE.
FN
[QUOTE=FruitNinja; 1379726]So we the cab driver that drove us to Angor what all day says he knows where to pull girls. OK! We already walked around Pub Street and there were some FL, most somewhat rough looking. We also stopped at the Doghouse which is right in the Pub Street area. It's on the second frloor and you can see if from Mickeys. (Rough crew at Mickeys) There was nothing at the Doghouse although we might have been early at 10:45 but I doubt it.
So after the sunset at AW we shower up, dinner up, and head to the girls place. He takes us to Top Town KTV. I'm skeptical before I even walk in and am ready to hit the road but Bob wants to see what the deal is. Walk in and there are 20-30 howling girls. Get led to a room and then the lineup. Very hard sell. Mama quotes $50 to take a girl out to the stabbin cabin. I'm sure the cabin is at least $20, then the towel, and then you have to work a deal with the girl. One wanted $50, then another 20 for yam yam. They hate giving head here. It must be a cultural thing. I pass and we high tale it out of there. Note: The streets are dusty here so you will need a shower after a tuk tuk ride.
All I want is a massage and a oral happy ending. So the guy takes us down another dusty road where we have to wait for a moto to guide us in. I'm thinking this is not looking good. We get taken to a dump. I tell them I want a rub and a BJ. $70. At this point all I want to do is get a BJ so we settle on $50. I know nuts but the girl is actually kinda cute. Back in the room. (did I really lay on that bed?) My only saving grace is I can either take forever to nut or do it in 5 minutes. I take the 5 minute route and get the hell out. Now I got to give the girl credit for performance. Best BJ since I got here.
If anyone wants the location I could send you the drivers number. I would not repeat unless I could get the same girl for carry out.
Off to Pats tomorrow.
General thoughts on Cambo. Don't go there if all you're looking for is girls. You will be disappointed, not in the quality of the girls, or their playfulness, but the performance is definitely not GFE.
FN[/QUOTE]Yes, FN.
You are correct in most cases; if I'm going for a night or short time in Cambo I'll always go VN or Chinese take out for GFE. If you got some time to spend though a Khmer girl is worth the extra work.
I don't know what it is or why Khmer girl are into me so much, where the VN and Thais are more interested in my wallet.
I've had both VN and Thai GFs and they want money every month, where a Khmer girl may still want money, but if it's less than you gave her before it's not that big of a deal. Where with a VN GF I had for 3 years one month money was a little tight my cash was tied up for a couple weeks and I went and had a nap one day, woke up and her and her cousin (my house keeper) were gone.
Thai girls I find the same, it's well how much are you going to pay me every month and how much extra is for me for spending.
When it comes down to it though, what my divorce cost me, hell I would have been farther ahead paying for hookers and not the ones here, the ones back home that charge $250 / hour.
When you get married the fucking your getting ain't worth the fucking your going to be taking, but you know that.
Have fun in Pats. If you get a chance check out the bar at the Welcome Inn on Soi 3 I think just up from Beach Road, for some day time mongering, the girls aren't the best looking, but for a good shag, they get an A for effort and cheap too. 500 baht not a bad ST place for during the day if you don't have anything else to do.
Ten years ago it was a good hotel to stay at too, but the room are in need of a make over now.
Cheers,
[QUOTE=GooberMonger; 1381936]Yes, FN.
You are correct in most cases; if I'm going for a night or short time in Cambo I'll always go VN or Chinese take out for GFE. If you got some time to spend though a Khmer girl is worth the extra work.
I don't know what it is or why Khmer girl are into me so much, where the VN and Thais are more interested in my wallet.
I've had both VN and Thai GFs and they want money every month, where a Khmer girl may still want money, but if it's less than you gave her before it's not that big of a deal. Where with a VN GF I had for 3 years one month money was a little tight my cash was tied up for a couple weeks and I went and had a nap one day, woke up and her and her cousin (my house keeper) were gone.
Thai girls I find the same, it's well how much are you going to pay me every month and how much extra is for me for spending.
When it comes down to it though, what my divorce cost me, hell I would have been farther ahead paying for hookers and not the ones here, the ones back home that charge $250 / hour.
When you get married the fucking your getting ain't worth the fucking your going to be taking, but you know that.
Have fun in Pats. If you get a chance check out the bar at the Welcome Inn on Soi 3 I think just up from Beach Road, for some day time mongering, the girls aren't the best looking, but for a good shag, they get an A for effort and cheap too. 500 baht not a bad ST place for during the day if you don't have anything else to do.
Ten years ago it was a good hotel to stay at too, but the room are in need of a make over now.
Cheers, [/QUOTE]But I'm already in BKK. I wish I had stayed in Pats a few extra days. I was trying to keep with my hotel schedule which turned out to be screwed up in BKK anyway. I'll know better how to allot time next trip.
I really liked HCMC. PM me. I would like to ask you some information.
FN
[QUOTE=GooberMonger; 1381936]I've had both VN and Thai GFs and they want money every month, where a Khmer girl may still want money, but if it's less than you gave her before it's not that big of a deal. Where with a VN GF I had for 3 years one month money was a little tight my cash was tied up for a couple weeks and I went and had a nap one day, woke up and her and her cousin (my house keeper) were gone.
Thai girls I find the same, it's well how much are you going to pay me every month and how much extra is for me for spending.[/QUOTE]LOL. You mean to say you have had VN and Thai hookers that want money every month? I have never had a Thai girlfriend ask me for one baht. As a matter of fact, a couple of weeks ago one tried to go to the bank and take out a loan in order to give ME money.
[QUOTE=FruitNinja; 1379726]So we the cab driver that drove us to Angor what all day says he knows where to pull girls. OK! We already walked around Pub Street and there were some FL, most somewhat rough looking. We also stopped at the Doghouse which is right in the Pub Street area. It's on the second frloor and you can see if from Mickeys. (Rough crew at Mickeys) There was nothing at the Doghouse although we might have been early at 10:45 but I doubt it.
So after the sunset at AW we shower up, dinner up, and head to the girls place. He takes us to Top Town KTV. I'm skeptical before I even walk in and am ready to hit the road but Bob wants to see what the deal is.[/QUOTE]LOL. I guess you didn't read my reports from last March. That Angkor Wat was the best tourist attraction I have seen in my life though.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1382843]LOL. I guess you didn't read my reports from last March. That Angkor Wat was the best tourist attraction I have seen in my life though.[/QUOTE]Hi E, yes, Angkor what is very impressive. It took me 3 days to walk around it and I didn't even see everything. I liked it better than Athens. As for nighttime extravaganzas Loy Krathong in Chiang Mai was awesome as is New Year's Eve in Rio. In the former, thousands of candlelit mini hot air balloons are released into the sky; and in the latter everyone wears white clothing and brings white flowers and candles to the beach to pay homage to the goddess of the sea. They are both magnificient sights and serve as conventional diversions to our nefarious hobby.
Back from my trip to Siem Reap.
Went to Mickey's Bar but I guess it was to early- no girls, just two guys drinking. Went to Top Town, but found the girls all unattractive-did not pick any.
Then, next day, I went out with some of the hotel guys for a drink- to a beer garden type joint where local men go. Nice girls to sit with you and then to take away. First day the girl with me was not free to come. Second day went to another place and got a just 20 yummy girl- 5 dollar bar fine and 50 dollars for her. Marvellous experience in my room, all included. She did not speak a word of English, but I didn't care-she did all I wanted to and asked in sign language.
Had a repeat of her on the next day (last day). Unforgettable. Wish I had found her on day one!
Moral of the story: Best way is to befriend a local guy and go to bars where local men monger.
[QUOTE=Amusti; 1383084]Second day went to another place and got a just 20 yummy girl- 5 dollar bar fine and 50 dollars for her. Marvellous experience in my room, all included. She did not speak a word of English, but I didn't care-she did all I wanted to and asked in sign language.
Had a repeat of her on the next day (last day). Unforgettable. Wish I had found her on day one!
Moral of the story: [b]Best way is to befriend a local guy and go to bars where local men monger. [/b][/QUOTE]Uhhh yeah. You would have a damn hard time trying to convince me that local men are paying $55 for pussy. I'm not local at all and I only paid $20. I think you got scammed my friend. But as long as it was worth it to you; fair exchange is no robbery.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1383127]Uhhh yeah. You would have a damn hard time trying to convince me that local men are paying $55 for pussy.[/QUOTE]Actually, some do and some pay even more than that.
I'm not talking about unwashed motodops who pay 10. 000 Riel for a mechanical shag in a dump.
If this beergarden was a nice joint with quality pussy that price might have been pretty close to what wealthy Khmers are willing to pay, especially in Siem Reap.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1382843]LOL. I guess you didn't read my reports from last March. That Angkor Wat was the best tourist attraction I have seen in my life though.[/QUOTE]I mean that's our life isn't it? I would have been remiss in my duties if I hadn't tried.
I agree the local guys possibly get for $20 or so. But being a 50+ Indian and the girl so yummmmmy (ooh la la) , I guess it was a more than a fair deal for me! Especially after seeing the lousy pros I saw on offer for $30-40 at Top Town. But I am sure on a longer stay, I could have got a better rate from her. Something like the discounted 3-day Angkor pass.
Well, reason enough to make a visit SR again as soon as I can. Until then have to manage with some nice local Indian ones in my hometown.
Amusti.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1383127]Uhhh yeah. You would have a damn hard time trying to convince me that local men are paying $55 for pussy. I'm not local at all and I only paid $20. I think you got scammed my friend. But as long as it was worth it to you; fair exchange is no robbery.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Amusti; 1383475]I agree the local guys possibly get for $20 or so. But being a 50+ Indian and the girl so yummmmmy (ooh la la) , I guess it was a more than a fair deal for me! Especially after seeing the lousy pros I saw on offer for $30-40 at Top Town. But I am sure on a longer stay, I could have got a better rate from her. Something like the discounted 3-day Angkor pass.
Well, reason enough to make a visit SR again as soon as I can. Until then have to manage with some nice local Indian ones in my hometown.
Amusti.[/QUOTE]I mean you gave us nothing to work with. What was the name of the bar. Where was it at? I mean we're about sharing info.
No bragging, just sharing the information that it is wiser to monger with local friends in SR. I was not planning to share contacts- my local friends in SR did not wish to share her widely!
Hope this clarifies!
Amusti
[QUOTE=FruitNinja;1383613]I mean you gave us nothing to work with. What was the name of the bar. Where was it at? I mean we're about sharing info.[/QUOTE]
I will be visiting Cambodia for the first time and would like to know should I stay in Phnom Penh or Siem Reap. I normally wouldn't have this problem but my wingman was injured at work and cannot make the trip. I will be coming from Pattaya in early may and would prefer flying over the long bus ride but I will do what it takes. Air Asia from DMK to PNH is an option but there are no good ways to SR except the bus or cab which I will be willing to take if it is worth it. Also should I stay at a close hotel or tuk-tuk my way to the hotspot wasting three minute to get a fair rate. Or should I just stay in Pattaya. Thanks for the help.
[QUOTE=Amusti; 1385029]No bragging, just sharing the information that it is wiser to monger with local friends in SR. I was not planning to share contacts- my local friends in SR did not wish to share her widely!
Hope this clarifies!
Amusti[/QUOTE]Great, thanks for the contribution. I think I will nominate it for posts of distinction. But I will still be on record as saying "SR sucks for P4P" regardless of if you have friends of not. Unless that is someone ccomes along and provides some evidence to the contrary. Like a real report not a "my bike is better than your bike."
[QUOTE=Dick Hertz;1389168]I will be visiting Cambodia for the first time and would like to know should I stay in Phnom Penh or Siem Reap. I normally wouldn't have this problem but my wingman was injured at work and cannot make the trip. I will be coming from Pattaya in early may and would prefer flying over the long bus ride but I will do what it takes. Air Asia from DMK to PNH is an option but there are no good ways to SR except the bus or cab which I will be willing to take if it is worth it. Also should I stay at a close hotel or tuk-tuk my way to the hotspot wasting three minute to get a fair rate. Or should I just stay in Pattaya. Thanks for the help.[/QUOTE]What do you want to do? SR for doing Angor what. PP if you want to monger. I took a cab fro SR to Pats. $100 USD total.
Probably will never take that cab ride but out of curiosity how long did it take?
[QUOTE=FruitNinja;1389206]What do you want to do? SR for doing Angor what. PP if you want to monger. I took a cab fro SR to Pats. $100 USD total.[/QUOTE]I will do both but the main reason is to monger.
I always enjoyed myself in Siem Riep. As for what khmers pay, you don't understand. The rich ones go out with their rich mates and pay as much as possible!
Its all about face and the most beautiful girls work in KTVs with rich khmers, not tight arses like us. Girls can easily get $100 to $200 a time, believe me I know. Its all about showing how much money you have.
[QUOTE=Phil Istine; 1390814]I always enjoyed myself in Siem Riep. As for what khmers pay, you don't understand. The rich ones go out with their rich mates and pay as much as possible!
Its all about face and the most beautiful girls work in KTVs with rich khmers, not tight arses like us. Girls can easily get $100 to $200 a time, believe me I know. Its all about showing how much money you have.[/QUOTE]I'm one of those low life scum's in my own country as you call them, that is going to ruin the country. How am I going to do that? Maybe by partying with my brothers and rich Khmer friends, who are far from cheap goofs like you.
Just because your a monger doesn't mean your cheap, but you should pay the going rate and if you want a good hotel for your money I can help. I can also help if money is no object.
Cheers
Didn't really find many girly bars here, but ended upstairs at a place called the doghouse, bit rougher than your normal resturanty type bar, which suits me. Girls started turning up around 8ish, not that many, but found me a nice enough one, loved it that you can smoke weed ANYWHERE! So I was a bit piggy on that, girl cost me $20 longtime, no barfines, even though she tried tell me there was, so I spoke to the owner, nice english chappy, told me theres no bar fines. So off we went to my room in the Riviera, pity we had to get out of town a few days later, Chinese new year, and not a dam room to be had!
Siem Reap (TOPTOWN Fish bowl) and Phnom Penh
Siem Reap, enough of work today, went to visit the mountain near Angkor Wok to see sunset. However the gate at the very top is already closed at 17:30.
I asked a tuk tuk driver to bring me to some girls, We arrived at TOPTOWN, a large Karaoke club off, along the airport road, on the right side if you come from airport. Look, for its sign + sign Earth club guesthouse + Supermarket Royal Massage, Total petrol station is not so far.
Mamasan lead me to one of the karaoke rooms and girls showed up, #47 and #26 was my case, petite, young, cute, nice face. 21 years. 70$ Mamasan asked, + 10$ for room guesthouse, nearby. I left, had not enough money with me anyhow. Prices where cheaper years ago! One of the boys said he will deal with Mamasan to get her for 50$. I stayed in Ree Hotel. Never in my life asked for a call-girl via reception to bring one. (Ok. 25 years ago in Bombay / India). But why not trying something new? I asked the young boys at the reception, I expected a 'No'? They disappeared to the back room, quite some nervous and exited. Some obviously more important other young guy showed up, 'Yes. 15$' fee. I was happy, happy about myself to have asked. Was not willing to walk the girl to my room, even this was solved, the boys said the will bring her to my room. I phoned Mamasan, ok for 60$ she agreed.
Shortly after the girl was at my room, hardly could I finish my shower. Ups I liked her, Miss Teson #26 was her name. She wanted the money before. No way, I tried fully to convince her 'I am a sweet boy'. Finally I showed her the 60 bucks and we placed them visible on the table and I put a water bottle on it, so it would stay where they are. She was not too experienced in Sex, at least no sexy foreplay from her, she quickly asked for a condom, sucking only for 15 bugs extra, I lashed this idea (actually she meant 50$?). Ok nice intercourse began, she was kind of dry, unexcited, but I liked her so much, told her repeating and slowly she warmed up. Pounded her form all sides, finally she was on top of me. It was good action with her. Well I was in kind of love with her at that moment, so even a not so good performance from her side would have excited me. We hardly made ˝ hour, but 1 hr was agreed, But once the thing is over, things get packed anyhow, at least with these kind of business girls. Took nice photo shot of her, but when I was going to shoot her pussy she panicked. She left, reception phoned if it was ok to release her? Nice happening, will go for the other girls next time, who looked similar to her, could be her twin sister, she was a little more dark.
Teasam was from Siem Reap, would not work ever day in the club. I often used moto-bike taxi 1$ or 2 $ for a ride in town, tuk tuk is 3$
Went to a massage called 'SIEM REAP KHMER MASSAGE', off National Rd6, near Salina Hotel, towards Bakheng Club. Oil massage for 15$, Petite Girl named Sroi Lieb, (#19?) , Tel. 0887272 483, little English, she proposed to become my girlfriend, but when I phoned her next day she pretended her phone was lost for a day. Nice ass massage, no sex, at least not at this place. 50$ she gets per month plus tip. 35$ she pays for her room.
Told my driver to search some young Vietnamese girls outside of town (chickenshag). However he brought me to a 35 years old ugly lady with the excuse 'She is good'. The place was in town, some signs of 3$ massages were visible. Its opposite 'Wooden Ankor Hotel', Taphul St. Svay Dangkum (Parkline Hotel is around the corner) , if you leave the Ankor Hotel, go opposite left, the small lane with a grocery store, not so far from Lucy Shopping Center. When I complained about the old woman, a better one showed up, maybe 22 years old. 30$ she asked. We agreed for blow job, but it was actually ˝ minutes she sucked, before she moved to bambam. Nothing special, waste of money.
Siem Reap: forget it as a monger. 50$ for short time at TOPTOWN, forget it. Go there with you Girlfriend only to party in Pub Street. Local girls are not beautiful over there. Went to MICKEY BAR, just a horrible selection f girls. Its much better for mongers in Phnom Penh (PP). No nude photos from any girl possible. Photo: from bridge over river and night club next to, Nite Club: young kids 18 years who would not look on me...
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Arrived at Phom Penh, stayed at 'Golden House International Hotel', Street 136, 35$, room without window, incl. Breakfast, but clean. Walked to CYREE CLUB, lots of girls hanging around me like bees, I was the onlyest guest, Monday 23:00, I left and walked to 'GOLDEN SORAY MALL' nice place, missed a cutie because I was not quick enough to hold her and had no mind to go for some other girl after. Continued to 'DISCO PANTOON CLUB', good music, good girls, nice place, left at 1am as a had a meeting next morning.
Afternoon: went to 'PARAIS KTV MASSAGE' No116 on 136Str. The receptionist repeat 3 times that only 'basic Thai massage' is available, no problem I said 'No problem' and paid 10$. I chose girl #4, name Miss Rah. She very soon started to concentrate on my genital area, she even lifted the pajama pants which were provided and started stroking, but the door had a glass window (!) , girls passed up and down the corridor and after some time I indicated her to continue with my other parts of the body, wanted to keep my load for the evening anyhow. Oh what a big prick I had when she indicate me to turn and I lay on my belly, was quite uncomfortable this hard thing. She spoke no English, her massage was kind of confused, but she had a friendly attitude. Anyhow nice person, She did not count the tip (5$). Took plane back to BKK soon after.
John
Took a bus from Phenom Penh. The six hour ride ended up being an eight hour ride because of the New Years. Once in Siem Reap found a taxi. The taxi driver was doing circles around town. And driving very very slow. He was having a hard time finding our hotel. We finally told him to pull over and we got a tuk tuk. We didn't give him the $5 each. We paid him $3 each. Still, too much in my opinion. Turns out his front right tire was flat. We were a little concerned because the taxi driver said there were a lot of tourist and that rooms would be hard to find. The first hotel we went to want $45 a night. WTF! We got back into the tuk tuk's and went around the corner and down the street. Found a hotel with rooms for the three of us. $20 a night, breakfast included. I think they are full now. Cleaned up and went to the cathouse in town. $80 quote. They had a selection of 15 girls. Most do-able. I just left and waited out front. My buddy tried to negotiate. Yeah, they weren't hearing it. We went to the same old place everybody else goes and had dinner and a couple of drinks. Another tuk tuk driver said he could take us to a place for girls. When we asked what was the name he said "chicken farm". Ok, lets have a look. He takes us straight to the place we were earlier. I wait in the tuk tuk and my buddies go in again. One of them gets a girl for $45. If you don't know. The girls can't ride with foreigners. Give them your hotel card and they will meet you there. And yes, you pay up front. None of these things I care for. But."When In Rome". Little cheaper then the $80 quoted the first time. At $45. Still too expensive for me. Especially when my last couple of girls I had in PP were $20 each. Will check out the Doghouse and Mickeys later tonight. Maybe even go down by the bridge. Oh, lots of tourist here right now. As in tour groups, families and groups of minors acting like, well. Kids. Crazy, I know. Yes, I am being sarcastic. For those reading. Don't be a hater! Please, no hate mail. If you have questions. Just ask. If you don't have anything positive to say. Keep it to yourself. Nobody really cares about the negative comments anyway.
[QUOTE=Sixty Two Echo;1410767]Took a bus from Phenom Penh. The six hour ride ended up being an eight hour ride because of the New Years. Once in Siem Reap found a taxi. The taxi driver was doing circles around town. And driving very very slow. He was having a hard time finding our hotel. We finally told him to pull over and we got a tuk tuk. We didn't give him the $5 each. We paid him $3 each. Still, too much in my opinion. Turns out his front right tire was flat. We were a little concerned because the taxi driver said there were a lot of tourist and that rooms would be hard to find. The first hotel we went to want $45 a night. WTF! We got back into the tuk tuk's and went around the corner and down the street. Found a hotel with rooms for the three of us. $20 a night, breakfast included. I think they are full now. Cleaned up and went to the cathouse in town. $80 quote. They had a selection of 15 girls. Most do-able. I just left and waited out front. My buddy tried to negotiate. Yeah, they weren't hearing it. We went to the same old place everybody else goes and had dinner and a couple of drinks. Another tuk tuk driver said he could take us to a place for girls. When we asked what was the name he said "chicken farm". Ok, lets have a look. He takes us straight to the place we were earlier. I wait in the tuk tuk and my buddies go in again. One of them gets a girl for $45. If you don't know. The girls can't ride with foreigners. Give them your hotel card and they will meet you there. And yes, you pay up front. None of these things I care for. But."When In Rome". Little cheaper then the $80 quoted the first time. At $45. Still too expensive for me. Especially when my last couple of girls I had in PP were $20 each. Will check out the Doghouse and Mickeys later tonight. Maybe even go down by the bridge. Oh, lots of tourist here right now. As in tour groups, families and groups of minors acting like, well. Kids. Crazy, I know. Yes, I am being sarcastic. For those reading. Don't be a hater! Please, no hate mail. If you have questions. Just ask. If you don't have anything positive to say. Keep it to yourself. Nobody really cares about the negative comments anyway.[/QUOTE]Stick to your guns, they're way over priced for a Khmer or VN girl even if you got 3-hole service. $15-$30 ST depending on the quality and service. $30-$50 LT if she's a real cutie. Don't let them take you either never pay upfront. I've never paid for a girl in all SEA first then doing her. Always after so you agree on $30 and if she puts forth a good GF3 experience then you can tip her if you want. Example: I've had girls in Thailand change there mind because they don't feel well or are too drunk and leave. Paid them nothing, some I gave taxi money to them.
$80 in PP you'll get top quality Chinese or even Russian girls, the girls are an eight or better and top quality Khmer for $50 ST and that's at a VIP Karaoke Club, which you won't find in any travel guide or from any tuk tuk drivers. If you have some friends in the government or some upper class Khmer they can tell you where the latest spots are.
You should have gone native.
Cheers
Went to Miky's (spell check!) last night about 9:30pm. There were about 15 girls there. Sat down, ordered a beer. $1. And Annie walks up. We talked for a little while. I asked how much. She said short time. $40. I didn't even hesitate. And that is so not like me. I usually negotiate pretty good, so I think. I was so discouraged at the $80 quote from the other night. I said yes, lets go. I didn't even pitch a lower price. My two buddies took girls too. One paid $40 the other got her down to $30. I will be negotiating for $30 tonight. I had a good time with Annie. 25 years old and got photos.
Yeah, we had a late start on the "native" idea. Sounds like it might be worth a try sometime. Yeah, $45 is out of my range. $80 is a joke. I just walked away when she said that. I am used to paying under $20 in Thailand, the Philippines and Mexico. $27-$30 in Colombia and the Dom Rep. Call me spoiled or call me cheap Charlie. 28 girls this trip so far and up until last night. 1100 baht was the highest I paid, one time in Bangkok. Five at 1000 baht. Three at $25. The other 18 girls I paid around the 500 baht mark.
I hear the Temple Night Club is going to be the place to hang out tonight. I still want to check out the Dog House. Oh, is it just me, or do all the tuk tuk drivers act lost? I have been here two days and I think I know more than they do. Or at least like they are acting they do. They will drive past a turn I know we need to make at least once every ride.
Went to Mikey's about 5pm. Way too early. Yes, I was eager. Went for some dinner to pass the time. Lots of places to eat and have a drink for under $5. Dog House was closed all night. Went back to Mikey's and seen Annie. I said hello and I moved on to talk to other girls. I talked to one that was built like I like, cute, pretty smile. And when I asked if she had I'd. She said no. Next! Found another one. When I asked about I'd, her answer was no. Talked to a third girl who was with a guy earlier but he split. She didn't seem all that interested in me. When I asked about short time she started being coy. Ok, guess I will go to the hotel and clean up a little. Came back and my buddies wanted to check out a couple of places, so we went to the Temple. Packed, and maybe a hand full of people over 18. Nope, didn't stay long. Went to Hip Hop Classic. Same thing. Teenie boppers. Went back to Mikey's. Was going to call it a night and started to leave after one beer when Zen came over to me. She was 27, had I'd, super start effort, great time with her. BBBJ, photos, no rush to leave and $30. I had to shut down early. Getting on the 6:30am bus to Phenom Penh. Don't think I will visit this town any time soon.
Of asking one of the concierge to send some company if staying in a 5* in SR? Will this be done? Frowned upon or will I get a straightforward "no"?
Do the Spas / massueses in 5* hotels in SR provide extras?
Going to visit the temples soon and will be there for a few nights so it would be nice to have a local Apsara grae my johnny!
Thanks
[QUOTE=AlphaNumeric; 1411739]Of asking one of the concierge to send some company if staying in a 5* in SR? Will this be done? Frowned upon or will I get a straightforward "no"?
Do the Spas / massueses in 5* hotels in SR provide extras?
Going to visit the temples soon and will be there for a few nights so it would be nice to have a local Apsara grae my johnny!
Thanks[/QUOTE]From my experience in SR the answer to all your questions is "NO".
Yes, I can see that. Arrived and did the full day of temple touring. Quite godd although it is a scorching 39C!
Lovely hotel. Even got upgraded to a suite but boy is jhonny lonely. This is really lame. I was hoping for some upmarket action but you can't even get a massage in your room. Have to go to the spa and no extras whatsoever!
[QUOTE=Luvpuss;1412185]From my experience in SR the answer to all your questions is "NO".[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=AlphaNumeric; 1413068]Yes, I can see that. Arrived and did the full day of temple touring. Quite godd although it is a scorching 39C!
Lovely hotel. Even got upgraded to a suite but boy is jhonny lonely. This is really lame. I was hoping for some upmarket action but you can't even get a massage in your room. Have to go to the spa and no extras whatsoever![/QUOTE]Not upmarket. But there's always Mikeys Bar! ST's from $20
[QUOTE=Bumholes1;1413314]Not upmarket. But there's always Mikeys Bar! ST's from $20[/QUOTE]Yeah. May give it a try although I am too lazy to go all the way there (not far from the Le Meridien I accept) on my own. Off to PP in a couple of days. May try my luck there!
Visited SR on two separate occasions Dec 2012 / Jan 2013. Did the usual temple stuff which was interesting. On the advice of some members I checked out the massage joints in Pub St. There was one on "Angkor Night Market Street" (near an Indian restaurant) where upon walking past a girl that worked there offered me a massage. The massage place in particular is large, it has an area outdoor where people were receiving foot massages while watching a DVD on a giant projector. Anyway, off inside I go after sealing the deal with a discount. It was around $6 (I got her to knock off $2 at the approval of her boss) for a 1 hr oil massage. The massage itself was ok. The room was upstairs, communal with curtains accommodating around 3 people. She said she was 21 and she came from "Floating Villlage". She spoke a lot and soon enough she said that she's a good girl and doesn't offer extras. I'm not convinced. She went on to say that customers come in looking for a HJ. Shortly after this she starts to turn her attention closer and closer to the my little friend. By now the other people who were in the room when I arrived had left. She started to discuss prices saying that Koreans / Japanese would pay $40-50, barang $20-30 and Khmer $5. I only had $5 in my wallet and said that's all I'll give for a HJ finish. This was convincing enough and she went to work on it with good technique and it didn't take me long to finish. Total damage $11. It was my last night in Siem Reap and I had an early start so I was happy with it.
Moral of the story: there IS action at the touristy massage places in Pub St. This particular massage place was very touristy with western women getting massages outside at street level.
The hotel I stayed at, like many others in Siem Reap, have a fleet of tuktuk drivers who will convince hotel guests to use them when you arrive at Siem Reap airport. The hotel I stayed at had around 10. 12 drivers. I befriended a handful of them and on the way back from visiting the temples one day we stopped at Khmer night market on the outskirts of town. We had dinner there ($0. 50 for a meal) and over dinner he offered to take me to karaoke later that night. We agreed to meet at 9. 30 out the front of the hotel. Had a shower, a cup of tea and eagerly awaited the clock to strike 9. 30pm.
The first stop was what appeared to be a dingy house with some Vietnamese women hanging in the courtyard. The location was near Wooden Angkor Hotel, so Taphul Area. Nothing I would poke a stick at. Prices thrown around were something ridiculous, $50 ST.
Second stop was a RnB club in town which was ok. Spent the time chatting to some friendly Khmers my age. I was keen to move on, this place didn't seen to cater for our hobby.
Finally we made it to the karaoke place. Off the bike and straight into the karaoke joint we go. We were assigned a room and lady who would pour the drinks and operate the music. My friend disappeared and brought back to ladies. One for himself and one for me. The lady I had was certainly pretty and I was keen to take her home. I hate singing and just sat there and listened to my tuk tuk driver sing some Khmer tunes, which wasn't all that bad. We drank local beer and the bill came to $12, which we agreed to split in half. We made our exit and my newly friend-ed Khmer beauty followed me to the parking lot. I quietly asked the the tuk tuk driver what the damage would be for her to come back to my hotel until the morning. $30. I agreed. Him and I went back to the hotel on his tuk tuk and he kindly stopped on the way back to pick me up some condoms.
The girl was ok in bed, nothing memorable but I was happy to find a good looking girl for my last night in Siem Reap before catching the bus early in the morning to Phnom Penh.
I'll be returning in June and will be staying at the same hotel and will be finding the exact location of the karaoke. If anybody else has visited it, maybe they will know the name. The location is east of town on National Highway 6, before Phsa Leu. It is a turn off the highway on a smaller street. I can confirm the name wasn't Pyramid or New Star.
[QUOTE=AlphaNumeric;1413068]Lovely hotel. Even got upgraded to a suite but boy is jhonny lonely. This is really lame. I was hoping for some upmarket action but you can't even get a massage in your room. Have to go to the spa and no extras whatsoever![/QUOTE]Should have done your research prior to booking. My hotel had in room massage. Plus, there is a lot of action in Siem Reap. There is Mickey's and then there are a few FLs walking Pub Street too. I was walking down to my hotel after the temples and needed a message. There was this massage place close by and I went in. Oil massage was for 1 hour. Girl had a really good figure. I got completely undressed. It was a separate room. She started the massage and soon she was riding on top of me. Got it. I discussed price for full service and she said $70. 00 USD. No way. My dick was saluting at that point and I said $10. 00 for ST. She did not like that but was playing with my dick. She came down to $50, then $30 as the last offer. I said I'll up the offer to $15. 00 USD as my last offer. About 30 seconds later, she undressed and started licking me all over. After BBBJ and screwing different positions and CIM, we relaxed and she finished the massage. Everyday I was in Siem Reap, I would have sex and massage after the temples. Never a dull moment.
In Siem Reap, how common is it to get a happy ending from a massage parlour if you ask for one? For example, let's say I visited 10 massage parlours and asked for a handjob only, how many would agree, on average? Typical one hour massage costs 5 dollars, and probably the handjob would cost an extra 5 or at most 10 dollars. Anyone got any experience in this regard? I just don't want to end up getting a handjob from some massage place and then 6 cops bust through the door with cameras and I get blackmailed into having to pay a bribe.
So my main questions are- how safe is it to get a handjob from a massage parlour lady, and how common is it? Are most of the massage parlour people open to it? Thanks
[QUOTE=LifeIsABeach;1419550]Should have done your research prior to booking. My hotel had in room massage. Plus, there is a lot of action in Siem Reap. There is Mickey's and then there are a few FLs walking Pub Street too. I was walking down to my hotel after the temples and needed a message. There was this massage place close by and I went in. Oil massage was for 1 hour. Girl had a really good figure. I got completely undressed. It was a separate room. She started the massage and soon she was riding on top of me. Got it. I discussed price for full service and she said $70. 00 USD. No way. My dick was saluting at that point and I said $10. 00 for ST. She did not like that but was playing with my dick. She came down to $50, then $30 as the last offer. I said I'll up the offer to $15. 00 USD as my last offer. About 30 seconds later, she undressed and started licking me all over. After BBBJ and screwing different positions and CIM, we relaxed and she finished the massage. Everyday I was in Siem Reap, I would have sex and massage after the temples. Never a dull moment.[/QUOTE]Can yo utell us the name or the postion of the massage place?
Thanks
[QUOTE=Dreams1973;1422717]Can yo utell us the name or the postion of the massage place? Thanks[/QUOTE]I have to lookup the map as some streets did not have a name and try to remember places close by that people can recall. I'll check my Siem Reap report from last year and post it. Not sure the street names are there.
Oct 7 – Oct 10 and Oct 19. Oct 21.
Arrival – October 7.
I had already obtained eVisa online for Cambodia before I left for my travels. It cost USD 25. 00.
Took Cebu Pafici Airlines flight from Manila to Siem Reap. Good airline, cheap and new planes. They try very hard to be on time. Upon arrival, I went to the e-visa immigration booths and in no time, I was over the baggage area. It must have been just 5 minutes to get out of the airport. Swift. The flight arrived around 9. 45 PM. The hotel had pick-up service and their driver was there. He was supposed to pickup two passengers. We waited and waited till all the passengers had left and the second passenger did not arrive. This added another half an hour before we went to Tanei Guest house. Arrived after 11 PM.
Cost at hotel was $18 / night including breakfast less 20% discount. Good clean rooms with decent bathroom and hot water, plus AC. Rooms cleaned daily and toiletries supplied daily for two people. Prior to booking, I had asked the Manager if it was girl friendly and I was told yes.
It was raining a little bit and I went to Pub Street to get something to eat. Ordered beef kebabs barbecue. The girl who was cooking was in a nasty mood even before she started cooking. I was sitting close bye and when done, the girl managed to drop half the kebabs on to the floor and starting picking it to put back on to the plate before she looked up to me. I decided to cancel the order and go elsewhere. It was raining harder and most places were closing. I managed to get a plate of just fried rice to fill up my stomach. Not how I intended the night to be but it was not fun. Took tuk tuk back to hotel for a good night's sleep after being soaked and tired. Next day's adventures to be at the Ankor what Temples.
October 8.
Got a tuk tuk from the hotel for a whole day for $10. 00 to do the first round of Temples. I will not go into details on this site. Anyway, it is very tiring and exhausting walking up and down the temple steps.
By the time I got back to hotel at about 5. 00 PM, all I wanted was a shower and a good massage. The hotel had a in-room massage service too starting at $6. 00 / hour. Close to the hotel, I had seen a massage place and I decided to go there. I could not find the street name even on a map. The best way to find this street is where the Maharajah restaurant and the Moon Villa and Spa are on Sivatha Blvd. Turn into the street going west. You will see two massage places. I think the one with Guys pictures may be a gay place. Keep walking, it is the next one. I saw a woman there with a really nice body, big tits and nice ass. Nice face too. $5. 00 for oil massage. Went with her to a room, there was a bed there. Clothes off and I lied naked. She started the massage and in no time, it was getting sexual as she played with my dick and rubbed her body against me. I got the message. I started feeling her and she was playing with me more and was getting excited herself. She asked if I wanted boom boom and I said yes. She mentioned $70. 00. That was laughable. I said it was too much and made sure that my dick was touching her and she could feel it. I countered $10. 00. She said no way and continued to massage. She could not resist touching my dick and came down to $50. 00. I countered by $15. 00. Too little for her. After a few minutes, she came down to $35. 00. If said, the last price would be $20. 00. She refused initially and with my erect dick next to her hands, a few minutes later she asked if I had a condom? I did not and she went to get one. She took all her clothes off and kissed my body, nipples etc slowly and then kissing and sucking my penis and balls. This was all bare back. She was very good and my penis seemed like it was ready to explode. I kissed her body and also nipples. She spent a lot of time arousing me and when I entered her with her on top, she was all wet. We did doggy position and also missionary and she came a few times while I was thumping her sometimes slowly, other times faster when she was about to come. It made me overly excited and I took out the penis and removed the condom and came in her mouth. She squeezed every little bit of the cum and then we rested a bit. I could have fucked her without condom if I wanted to. After that she went to the bathroom, cleaned herself and resumed the massage. It was very GF experience. She spoke a little English but enough to communicate with me. She was the second lady I had in my whole life that would remove my shoes, socks, shirt, pants and would also dress me. I have never had this done ever in Western world. The last time was in Philippines on this trip. There is sometime about Asian women and their culture and respect. She was very pleasant and thanked me when I handed her $5. 00 massage + $20. 00 boom boom + tip. I told her for a repeat performance next day when I got back from the Temples. I felt better but still exhausted and went to have some food.
There are some local restaurants that serve many Cambodian and barbeque dished for about $2. 00 to $3. 00. I usually ate there as food was good and I enjoyed talking to the young waitresses there. Went back to the Hotel for a nap and freshen up. I got up around 8 PM, showered and went to Pub Street for a few beers.
PUB Street.
This street is full of western owned bars and restaurants and younger westerners strolling along. The westerners keep the prices higher to fleece the western tourists. I suggest you eat at smaller restaurants closer to Pub Street and come down to Pub Street to enjoy your 75 cents draught beers. There is a lot of people watching. You will see a fair amount of Freelancers walking around too. They will look at you, call you too. They also hang around Micy's bar, X-Bar and few eateries on Sivatha Blvd close to Pub Street. I have been quoted even $30. 00 and also $20. 00 as the opening price for 1 hour session. One hour session in Cambodia means one shot, not really one hour. So, buyer be aware. As I was very tired from the Temples and had nuts grinded earlier by the massage girl, I could not do another girl as I was visiting the temples the next day too. I did not bargain with the mamasan and said No. You could bargain down to $15. 00 or $20. 00 for the one hour deal. Find out first what she does and does not do.
You will be asked endlessly by tuk tuk drivers in Cambodia for boom boom. They are not doing it for your $2. 00 tuk tuk ride. They have to be getting a commission from the mamasan. That $20. 00, $30. 00 is not coming from mamasan but your pocket. If you want to pay over and above the asking price, it's up to you.
October 9.
Again, the tiresome and exhausting but enjoyable sightseeing of the further away Temples, rice fields, Landmine Museum, arrived back at the hotel again after 4. 00 PM. As I needed a massage again for my sore legs, I went to the same massage place and the girl was waiting for me. Again a very GF experience, very passionate and sexual. This time, she says, she is love with me. This is my second time with her and she wants a baby with me. She is a single girl with a child and I did not think that another child is a good idea. I told her that we'll talk about it and continued to use the condom for intercourse. She did not seem like a leech who was after my money, but someone who was infatuated. She seemed like a very nice person and her husband bolted after the child was born. Same again, massage after sex.
Visited Pub Street again for a few beers and went to bed as I was leaving on an Express mini bus to Phnom Penh early next day. Cost $10. 00, only 14 passengers and stops at one place to eat for about 20 minutes. I was again stopped by freelancers offering their services. Just to state, there is enough freelance action in Pub Street and around it and the need to check out other places may not be needed. If I was not getting great sex from the massage place, I would have tried the freelancers first and then the clubs.
October 19.
Arrived on Cambodian Ankor Air flight from Sihanoukville earlier than 2. 00 PM arrival time. The Flight took about 45 minutes than the official 1 hour. The hotel had sent a tuk tuk to pick me up and we got to the hotel in about half hour. The flight cost $118. 00 as opposed to $20. 00 that would have cost me for a long bumpy 14 hour ride in a bus. In addition to lost time, you would be exhausted with bumps and pains. The flight was well worth it and I was fresh when I got to Siem Reap. The flight is only 3 days a week.
As the King had died a few days ago, entertainment was low key with no music. Bars were open but did not play music. I wanted to watch Aspara dancing but it was not available. As I had half day, I went sightseeing to the Cultural village, Old Center, War Museum. There was no show at the Cultural Village in respect for the King.
On way back later in the evening, I paid visit to the massage place and again got a good oil massage with the very GF sex with the same girl. It was very enjoyable. She gave one hot blow job. Next again, later in the evening, I visited Pub Street again for some 75 cent beers and just to and forth with the freelancers just for fun. There was a very pretty girl walking bye and the waiter told me that she was a ladyboy! Lots of Europeans but do not let that stop you talking to a freelancer if you like her. My hotel was also full of Europeans too.
October 20.
Did some sightseeing, went to the floating villages. This $25 ride down the river is not worth it. The river is filthy and dirty with a very strong bad smell. You could throw up. The floating villages are fishermen families who live on the river, have schools there, pig farming, crocodile farming, grocery stores, police station etc. On the way back, went to the landmine museum.
Again paid the visit to the massage place for the same hot sex and massage. Told her that I would be leaving tomorrow night for Manila to go back to USA. She kept repeating with arm actions that tomorrow I'll be flying away and she'll be here. She was getting very emotional. I felt sorry for her as she seemed to have a big heart but life sucks. To this day, I think of her and pray that God takes care of people like her. They are honest, kind hearted but in a dead end situation. I told her that I'll be seeing her at 2. 00 pm next day as I would be flying later that night.
October 21.
Took it easy, finished up with my feet in the baby piranhas eating my feet with some Japanese girls. It was ticklish! Did some last minute shopping and had lunch before visit to the massage place. She was very emotional and crying even as she gave me good sex. It was tough as I could not do anything. She is a nice woman and I hope something good happens to her. She gave me her mobile number. She also showed me a book to learn English! Told her that I would be leaving around 8. 00 PM for the airport. True enough, when my tuk tuk went by her place, she was waiting outside and I waved to her bye. The folks at the places I used to eat were also waiting and were waving good bye to me. I liked my stay in Siem Reap.
Just to add, I am sure other girls working at this massage place are also on the game. The prices may differ.
If I had not been treated well by the massage girl, I would have tried the freelancers, clubs and places like Top Town. There is mongering in Siem Reap but not as much as other places.
International Departure from Siem Reap.
I had seen at some web sites that there was $25. 00 departure tax / fee. No one asked me for the fee and I did not pay any. Also, the immigration / passport control etc was pain free and quick. No hassles.
Hi LifeisaBeach,
I read your report with great interest. So you actually had full sex INSIDE the massage parlour? I guess then it would be pretty easy to get a handjob happy ending in comparison. I think I know the places you are talking about.
Even still, I'm a young 28 year old guy, and frankly, I wouldn't want to put up with such emotional BS from some lady who is clearly only interested in using western men for their money. Why do you think she was so emotional? She doesn't love you, dude. She loves your MONEY and she wants a GREEN CARD. So while I am happy that you had a good time with her, I think I'll skip it and just jerk off to internet porn. It's a lot easier, and at least porn won't be crying at me and asking me to marry her. Nor will 6 cops bust into the room with cameras and try to arrest me.
By the way, I am in the process of trying to start up a software company which will develop virtual reality sex programs. Hopefully within another few years, real human women won't even be necessary for sexual satisfaction.
Cheers!
[QUOTE=HenryFranklin; 1423362]Hi LifeisaBeach,
I read your report with great interest. So you actually had full sex INSIDE the massage parlour? I guess then it would be pretty easy to get a handjob happy ending in comparison. I think I know the places you are talking about.
Even still, I'm a young 28 year old guy, and frankly, I wouldn't want to put up with such emotional BS from some lady who is clearly only interested in using western men for their money. Why do you think she was so emotional? She doesn't love you, dude. She loves your MONEY and she wants a GREEN CARD. So while I am happy that you had a good time with her, I think I'll skip it and just jerk off to internet porn. It's a lot easier, and at least porn won't be crying at me and asking me to marry her. Nor will 6 cops bust into the room with cameras and try to arrest me.
By the way, I am in the process of trying to start up a software company which will develop virtual reality sex programs. Hopefully within another few years, real human women won't even be necessary for sexual satisfaction.
Cheers![/QUOTE]I have been mongering for at least two decades. I divorced from my wife ages ago as I knew that I may not be faithful. Never married again. Regarding the P4P scene, this is not the first time I have heard such stuff from women. I am quite good looking, work out and am in good shape. I wear quality designer clothes and I treat the women with respect. When they start this emotional stuff, it goes through one ear and out through the other. I do not let it register. If I really wanted to find a 'wife', it will not be a WG. I met quite a few normal girls while in Cambodia and they were very pleasant. Romance takes a long time, maybe months and I was only there for 3 weeks. One day maybe I might decide to have a partner. Until then, screw the girls and say goodbye. Just have fun and don't take any WG seriously.
[quote=lifeisabeach;1423704]i have been mongering for at least two decades. i divorced from my wife ages ago as i knew that i may not be faithful. never married again. regarding the p4p scene, this is not the first time i have heard such stuff from women. i am quite good looking, work out and am in good shape. i wear quality designer clothes and i treat the women with respect. when they start this emotional stuff, it goes through one ear and out through the other. i do not let it register. if i really wanted to find a 'wife', it will not be a wg. i met quite a few normal girls while in cambodia and they were very pleasant. romance takes a long time, maybe months and i was only there for 3 weeks. one day maybe i might decide to have a partner. until then, screw the girls and say goodbye. just have fun and don't take any wg seriously.[/quote]yea that's my same attitude. marriage is pointless nowadays as there is nothing in it for men except serious legal troubles. divorce laws favor women everywhere now, and also i really enjoy my privacy and solitude.
the main point i am trying to figure out is this. is it technically legal to engage in sex while inside the massage parlour? the reason i am so paranoid about this point, is that i actually knew an older american guy who was about to have sex with a couple of ladies inside one parlour and the cops bust through the door right as he was putting on a condom and he ended up in jail for a year in cambodia. the court case tried to make it out like the girls were ****, but they were both above 18 and testified to that fact. even still they put him in jail for a year.
i know the safest bet would be to just bring the ladies back to your room, because that way you can lock the door and it's much more secure.
so how safe is it actually to engage in sexual activities while inside the massage parlour itself, even if the lady you are doing it with clearly is over 18 and is probably in her 30s, according to her appearance? how often do raids happen, where western men get busted? does it ever happen? or does it only happen if you are intentionally trying to engage in sex with **** girls?
i just want to be very clear on this point before i engage in any activities myself. the last thing i want is to end up in some shithole prison in asia just for getting a fucking handjob from a lady at a massage parlour.
i figure it must not be very common at all for western men to get raided, otherwise it would destroy the tourism industry here.
so the question i am asking is- how safe is it to get extras from massage parlours? is it too risky to do, or is it relatively safe?
[quote=henryfranklin; 1423828]the main point i am trying to figure out is this. is it technically legal to engage in sex while inside the massage parlour? the reason i am so paranoid about this point, is that i actually knew an older american guy who was about to have sex with a couple of ladies inside one parlour and the cops bust through the door right as he was putting on a condom and he ended up in jail for a year in cambodia. the court case tried to make it out like the girls were ****, but they were both above 18 and testified to that fact. even still they put him in jail for a year.
so how safe is it actually to engage in sexual activities while inside the massage parlour itself, even if the lady you are doing it with clearly is over 18 and is probably in her 30s, according to her appearance? how often do raids happen, where western men get busted? does it ever happen? or does it only happen if you are intentionally trying to engage in sex with **** girls?
i just want to be very clear on this point before i engage in any activities myself. the last thing i want is to end up in some shithole prison in asia just for getting a fucking handjob from a lady at a massage parlour.
i figure it must not be very common at all for western men to get raided, otherwise it would destroy the tourism industry here.
so the question i am asking is- how safe is it to get extras from massage parlours? is it too risky to do, or is it relatively safe?[/quote]i understand your concerns. first, stay away from **** girls. i am a usa citizen. regardless of where i have sex, the usa laws apply. hence i make sure that the hirls are legal age.
regarding having in massage parlor etc and getting busted, i do not know the laws in cambodia. i wrote just my experience and nothing happened. you should read the threads for pp as some posters there live there and may know the laws or the raid scene better. yes, it is better to be safe than sorry. post parts of your post on pp and see what the posters say.
It is possible to fly directly from Bangkok to Siem Reap but the price is a steep 6, 600 baht as Siem Reap's tiny airport can't keep up with sky-high demand.
The alternatives are a 10 hour bus-trip from Bangkok or taking a cheap AirAsia flight to Phnom Penh and then a six hour bus-ride north to Siem Reap. Both take a similar amount of time so I chose the first and cheapest option. Money saved on transport goes on girls!
I checked out of my hotel and got picked up by a minibus at 7. 30am. We left the concrete jungle of Bangkok behind and headed towards the border. I had hoped for some nice scenery but the landscape was featureless. It gave me chance to reflect on my time in Bangkok. The first night could have been a disaster but thankfully Annie's came to my rescue. It was great to return to Nataree and I bar-fined pretty girls from both Soi Cowboy and Nana Plaza. I was pleased with quality of girls too. I'd fucked two cute and innocent types (Joy and Amy) and two sex-bombs (Aor and Pam). All four had been fun, friendly and provided memorable sex. Hopefully there would be more of the same in Cambodia.
It took four hours to reach the border. The crossing was a long process with the queue at passport control on the Cambodian side taking an hour (naturally our driver said he'd let us jump the queue for a small fee). We arrived in Siem Reap at 7pm and I opted to stay at MANDALAY INN. Not only is it a short walk from the unimaginatively named Pub Street, where most of the action is meant to be, but reports suggest it is girl-friendly too. I wasn't sure how many girls I'd be sleeping with in Siem Reap but I wanted to keep my options open. It was a beautiful hotel with polished wooden floors and my 'VIP room' cost just $18 a night. It had a double bed, cable TV and its own bathroom.
The main currency in Cambodia is American dollars but whenever small change is given, you are handed riel. It can be confusing at first. There are 4000 riel to one dollar, so if you buy something for 50 cents and hand over a dollar, you will get 2000 riel in change. ATM's dispense dollars but annoyingly sometimes dish out $100 notes which are hard to split.
I unpacked, had a shower and put some respectable clothes on before heading out to PUB STREET. It's a busy road full of restaurants and bars, heaving with honeymooning couples and backpackers. As a result the place doesn't have a pick-up atmosphere but wherever there are tourists, especially in poor countries like Cambodia, there is sex to be found. It's often off the radar but the signs are there.
I saw a pretty Cambodian girl lingering aimlessly on her own at the bottom of Pub Street. I intentionally walked past close to her and caught her eye. 'Massage sir? ' she said quietly. I smiled to her and she whispered 'Short-time? '. She was a pretty young thing but I wasn't looking for any action tonight. Also there were lots of tourists nearby. A girl like her would probably charge $20US for short-time. Street-walkers are very cheap in Cambodia.
I ate at a street-side restaurant giving me a good view of people walking past. I didn't see many obvious freelancers but there were lots of attractive backpackers. Although Siem Reap is predominantly a tourist destination, there is action to be found. I wanted to visit the freelance bars on Pub Street as well as Top Town and Sok San Palace, where there are supposedly lots of girls available for short-time. I also had the option of the Zone 1 brothels. I planned to be in Siem Reap for five days and I'd be happy if I could fuck two or three girls.
I finished my meal and after a few Angkor beers, headed back to my hotel. It had been an exhausting day of travel and I needed my bed. I picked up my key and several guests were drinking in the small bar opposite reception. I said goodnight to them as I walked past. Online reports suggest that Mandalay Inn is girl-friendly but the walk of shame would be very much alive and well if you took a girl up to your room.
I spent next day exploring the vast temples of Angkor what. It costs $40 to have a three day pass and if you like to dilute your girlie adventures with a bit of tourism, the ruins are breathtaking. I took about 300 photos!
It was dark by the time I headed back to Siem Reap. On the way back my tuk-tuk driver asked whether he could pick something up from his home. I said okay and we turned in to a dusty side-street off Airport Road. When the driver wasn't steering around pot-holes, he looked over his shoulder and said 'this area, only Cambodians'.
It was a busy neighbourhood full of low-rise houses. After a while we went past a building illuminated by lights that at first I thought was a restaurant. It was set back from the road and looked upmarket compared to the surrounding buildings. There was a small open-aired porch next to the road in which there were seven girls wearing colourful dresses. They looked young and attractive although it was hard to tell as we bumped our way past on the uneven track. The tuk-tuk continued to head in to the neighbourhood and I saw two similar establishments in the vicinity.
They didn't have any signs although near one there was a large illuminated sign that was entirely written in Cambodian except for three letters I recognized. KTV. Karaoke bars give customers the chance to spend time singing and drinking with a girl and often, but not always, extras can be negotiated. They are popular with Asian men and although I have never set foot inside one, the pretty girls outside had grabbed my attention. I leaned forward and asked my driver what they were. 'That is KTV my friend' he said, 'some girl go with customer but most do not'. There was a pause before he added with a smile 'but you young. I think girls go with you'.
As I had been in the energy-sapping sunshine all day, I felt tired. I just wanted a shower and something to eat. I tried to make a note of exactly where the KTV's were located but it was tricky in the maze of narrow roads. I'd guess they were one kilometre north of Airport road, in a large neighbourhood near Sivatha Road. I suspect a tuk-tuk driver might know them. I saw three KTV's and all had girls outside. Although my driver told me that most don't go with customers, I'm sure some would be willing to spread their legs for cash. KTV's are usually expensive places but I assume that prices would be cheap in a Cambodian neighbourhood like this. Pretty girls for cheap prices, what could be better?
I think they would be shy to be seen as hookers though, especially with tourists, so perhaps your best chance of success would be to spend some time drinking with a girl and then discretely give her your mobile number. I suspect they speak little or no English but if you present yourself well and the girl likes you, these KTV's could be gold-mines.
I ate at TEMPLE BAR on Pub Street. It was 9pm and I got a table outside near the entrance. Temple Bar is supposedly the main freelance hangout but I didn't see any signs of pay-for-play at all. Lots of older couples sat outside and young backpackers danced inside to loud music. Freelancers supposedly gather near the bar but all I saw were three average Cambodian girls who just seemed to be 'good girls' on a night out. A few other Cambodian girls were dotted around but they didn't look like they were on the prowl. The place didn't have a pick-up feel at all. According to my online research there should be about 15 girls between 9pm and 10pm but I saw little evidence of that.
It wasn't my kind of place at all. It reminded me of the clubs in Kuta, Bali. It was a lively place with loud music and a young crowd, but there were slim pickings when it came to girls. Even if I did see a girl I liked, it would be an awkward environment to secure her services with so many tourists around. It struck me as a place that backpackers go for a night out with their friends, where maybe they can hook up with a Cambodian girl but get a rude shock when she asks for money in the morning!
Yet puzzlingly it receives good reviews online. Maybe I just caught it on an off night? If you have better luck than me, $40 is supposedly the maximum price for pretty girls but you should be able to get them for $30 short-time.
Temple Bar disappointed me but I was happy to have a few relaxed beers. This part of the trip was more about the temples as I was saving myself for Phnom Penh. If I could fuck a few cuties it would be a bonus.
NOTE: This diary is continued from the Bangkok thread. It will continue here for a few days (Top Town and Sok San Palace) before continuing in the Phnom Penh and Sihanoukville sections.
Enjoyed reading your diary!
Well, times have changed. Neither Sok San Palace nor Zone 1 brothels exist anymore.
There is Mikey's Night Bar on Sivathra Road. (approx. 300m north off pub street) where 90% of the freelancers will hang out but as said. Prices are well above the average.
Never took the offer of any motobike driver. Almost anyone of them seem to have conections to chicken farms.
100$ notes are accepted at lucky- or bayon supermarket. No problem at all.
A couple of posts down one gentleman described his experience at a massage shop. You'll find it by going the street leading to Hotels called "Golden Temple Villa and "Golden Butterfly Villa. I went past it a month ago. So it is still operating.
Good luck and have fun!
[QUOTE=Kniom;1428406]Enjoyed reading your diary! Well, times have changed. Neither Sok San Palace nor Zone 1 brothels exist anymore.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the heads-up but I'm not longer in Siem Reap (I'm posting a month later as I needed time to edit the text and prepare photos etc). The old Sok San Palace is no longer there but I did find the new Sok San VIP. It will be in my post tomorrow.
Once again I spent the day visiting the ruins of Angkor what. My tuk-tuk driver was a young guy and he told me that he once drove a Japanese girl around all day and afterwards she invited him out for dinner. She had more than food on her mind though and he stayed with her all night. In his words 'she like it six times a night. I was exhausted! '
At night I went to Pub Street again. Most freelance action seems to be near Sivatha Road. This time a pretty girl perched on a parked moped said hello. Cambodians are generally shy so I presumed she was working girl. A tuk-tuk driver asked if I wanted a lady and another said 'chicken farm, sir? ' Chicken farms are what the local brothels are called in Cambodia.
I ate at a Cambodian restaurant and had amok which was like a thick, mild Thai green curry. A pretty young waitress taught me a few Cambodian phrases. Cambodian girls are darker skinned than Thai girls.
It was 10. 30pm and after a couple of girl-free nights I wanted some action. I wanted to go to a place where I could pick a girl and fuck her on the premises. I decided to try BLUE WAVE, a hostess bar one block north of the old market. According to reports, girls surround you when you enter and for $25 you can take her to a room upstairs.
As I was walking there two young girls asked me 'massage sir? '. One was a 2/10 if I was being generous and the other looked suspiciously like a ladyboy. I kept walking.
I walked up Sivatha Road and turned left just before Hotel De La Paix (which according to a sign would re-open in Summer 2013 as Park Hyatt). Apparently Blue Wave is located 50 meters down this road on the left but I couldn't find it. I walked up and down the street a few times but saw nothing that even resembled a bar. It was a dark street with lots of shops that had their shutters pulled down for the night.
A moto driver pulled up alongside me. When I told him what I was looking for he told me 'Blue Wave closed'. Normally you can take whatever tuk-tuk drivers tell you with a pinch of salt but in this case it seemed that he was telling the truth. Or it had moved? 'I take you Sok San VIP, not far' he said, pointing north down Sivatha Road. I'd been impressed with Sok San Palace on my previous visit to Siem Reap but he was pointing in the wrong direction. 'Sok San that way, near Pub Street' I said. 'No, has moved' he said, pointing north. There was no mention that it has moved online so I wondered whether he was trying to take me to a place where he gets commission.
'You know Top Town? ' I asked and he offered to take me there and back for just $1. I was told that a moto driver would ask for $5 so his cheap price gained my trust. I jumped on to the back of his bike and we sped through the quiet streets on to Airport Road before turning left down a bumpy dirt track. After 100 yards I saw coloured lights and we turned in to a car-park. It was full of scooters and in front of the building was a sign which said TOP TOWN KTV.
I walked in to a large lounge that had about 35 girls sitting on couches. All were young and some were reasonably pretty. I received lots of smiles and hello's as I walked past and got that familiar adrenaline rush when I know I'll be taking one. A middle-aged mamasan led me to a smaller room and invited me to sit on a couch at the far end. It was only then that I noticed that the moto driver had also taken a seat. I suspected that he wanted to make sure that he got his commission but I wasn't concerned as I knew the correct amount to pay and wouldn't be going any higher.
Before summoning the girls the mamasan told me that it would cost $70 for short-time. I knew that Top Town was expensive in comparison to other pay-for-play venues in Cambodia but that was too much. 'I pay $50, same as last time' I said with a smile. I hadn't been to Top Town before but this seemed to be the correct price on the forum. She frowned and replied '$60, price has gone up'. I sensed weakness and with a poker-face repeated 'I pay $50'. Her face wavered and I knew I'd got her. 'Okay, $50 but tip for me? ' she said, defeated.
The girls walked in but I didn't get the full selection with only 12 to choose from. Maybe more customers had arrived? The girls stood in front of me and there was an awkward silence when I slowly looked along the line, each girl meeting my glance with a smile. I don't like picking girls like this as I hate rejecting girls in front of their face. I said 'this is hard, they are all pretty' which made a few of them giggle.
All of the girls were young and there were three decent candidates. One was a beautiful dark skinned girl-next-door type with a lovely smile, another had curly hair and a cheeky personality (she mouthed 'I love you' when I looked at her) and last but not least was a pale-skinned cutie who I assumed was Vietnamese. I'd never been with a Vietnamese girl so I picked her. She sat next to me and the other girls left the room.
Her name was Anita and she was 20 years old from Battambang. I bought us a beer each which cost a pricy $4 and she held my hand as we exchanged the usual introductory small-talk. She had a sweet smile and a warm personality so I was pleased with my choice. After we finished our drinks I paid $50 at the counter for the girl and $4 for the drinks. It is possible to take your choice of girl back to your hotel but it is far more convenient to go to a nearby short-time hotel. Besides, I'd struck a good rapport with the staff at Mandalay Inn and couldn't face the walk of shame.
We took separate motos to a nearby hotel on Airport Road. A young guy on reception told me that a room for one hour would cost $10. I knew it was too much (my VIP room at Mandalay Inn cost $18 a night!) but of course the price had been inflated for the moto drivers commission. That was why he offered to take me to Top Town and back for just $1, he knew he'd make money from the hotel. Reluctantly I paid. Normally I try to avoid taxi-commission but Top Town is inconveniently located and difficult to find so I didn't have a choice.
The room was basic. Although it had air-con, it released a bare minimum of cold air and the room was hot as a result. We showered and then lay on the bed next to each other, Anita wrapped in a towel. She didn't speak much English but pinched my nose and told me that when I walked in, the girls said 'he good man'. She stroked my arm and whispered 'handsome' to herself before ruining it by stroking the stubble on my chin and saying 'baboon"! She softly stroked my chest and then stroked lower and lower. Soon I was hard and ready for action.
She lay on her back and I eased in to her before fucking her slowly in mish. I then flipped her right leg over so she was lying on her side and I was entering her pussy sideways. Girls usually love this position as it makes their pussy tighter. She rode me in an inexperienced manner, rocking back on forth as I squeezed her small tits, before getting off and saying 'hot'. It felt like a sauna in the room so she lay back and I gave her a good pounding. It reminded me of one of the sweltering X-houses in Sanur, Indonesia. She shared the workload and rode me to a climax.
We showered and as we got changed she told me that when she finished work at 2am each night, she went home to Battambang (a three hour trip). She was a sweet girl so I gave her a good tip and waved to her as she got on the back of a moto and sped off back towards Top Town. It was only midnight so her night was still young.
Top Town was as expected. It had a large number of girls, all young and some pretty. It was expensive but Siem Reap is not a pay-for-play destination, it's a place teeming with cashed-up tourists so inevitably prices will be high.
Feeling on a roll I considered picking up a streetwalker on the way back to my hotel but I didn't see any cute ones. I wasn't too disappointed though as I was pleased with my nights work. Not only had I finally got some action in Cambodia, I'd fucked my first ever Vietnamese girl.
On the way back I stopped at a convenience store to buy a bottle of water. Two young teenage girls behind the counter were showing each other some dance moves. I joined in, much to their amusement, but quickly stopped when another customer walked in.
After a good nights sleep I spent the next day visiting more of the stunning temples. I felt exhausted afterwards so decided to have a massage. There are no shortage of places offering massage in Siem Reap and I found a place near my hotel. A tubby middle-aged woman gave me a great foot massage but when she started massaging my thighs, I felt myself getting hard. I tried to think of football, the off-side law, politics, whatever I could think of, to halt the blood flow but it didn't work and seconds later I had a very obvious stiffy. If she noticed, she didn't say anything.
I had dinner at a restaurant on Pub Street alley which as its name suggests is an alley that runs parallel to Pub Street. It's much quieter and I enjoyed perving on some of the sexy western girls that walked past, including a tall blond with a models face and figure. She reminded of a girl I shagged in Amsterdam's Red Light District near the old church. I've fucked nearly 100 girls in Amsterdam and although some of the girls are extremely attractive, all you get for your money is (in their words) a 'suck and fuck'. Of those 100 girls only one girl kissed. She was a beautiful Thai girl called Oye and it is she who was responsible for my Asian fetish being born! Thanks to her I come to Asia every year and meet many girls who give me exactly the same kind of girlfriend experience she gave me.
Seeing all of those pretty girls had got me horny so I decided to find another girl. Four years ago I visited a place called Sok San Palace which had a set-up like a nightclub. There were some seriously pretty dancers and I fucked a particularly fine specimen back at my hotel for just $20. If I could find a girl of similar quality tonight I would be delighted.
The moto driver last night told me that Sok San had moved but I wanted to see for myself. I retraced my steps from four years ago and walked down the road nearly opposite the Sivatha end of the Pub Street. Sok San Palace used to be located a short distance down this street on the left but it was no longer there. I walked until the road turned into a bumpy track with two dogs howling at each other, before giving up and turning around.
I walked to a nearby internet café and googled Sok San. I found an address and basic directions which seemed to correspond with the direction the moto driver had pointed last night.
I decided to walk there. As I walked along Sivatha Road, a pretty girl wearing a red dress started walking alongside me. She had a nice face (maybe an 8/10) , long hair and a slim body with tempting curves. Her skirt was very short and she had long legs. She didn't bother with small-talk and asked 'you want boom boom? ' straight away. I slowed my pace. She sensed interest and said '$20 short-time'. It was a good price because she was a sexy girl but I didn't want to take her back to my hotel. It was only 9pm and the entrance area of Mandalay Inn would be busy with hotel staff and diners. 'I give good massage' she said and stroked my arm but I decided against it. I took her mobile number instead as she'd be a good option either late at night or at a short-time hotel.
I continued walking north down Sivatha Road. I noticed that the numbers of buildings were going downwards (118, 116, 114) but according to the vague directions I found online, I needed to find 522 Sivatha Road (the address of a hotel Sok San is near). But I was heading in the direction that the moto driver had pointed so I continued walking. After a while the road became dark with not much sign of life. I was considering turning around when a motorbike slowed down next to me and I saw a familiar face. It was the moto driver from the night before! It felt like he was following me. I knew I could ask him to take me to Sok San but I didn't want to pay inflated prices because of him like I did at Top Town. 'No need bike, thank you' I said and he reluctantly rode off. He knew what I was looking for and he knew he wouldn't be getting commission from me tonight.
I continued walking but aborted mission 20 minutes later. There was little sign of life and whenever I asked a local person, I was met with a blank stare. No-one knew where it was. I had been walking for 45 minutes and as a result I was sweating. I decided to go back to my hotel for a shower. Sok San could wait until another night.
As I was showering I remembered that I had got the phone number of a sexy young street-walker on Sivatha Road. She had a nice face and a lovely body and had offered me sex for just $20. I could send her a text message arranging for her to come to my hotel after midnight, a bit like a pizza delivery service. Sadly I made the schoolboy error of lying down on my bed when I got out of the shower and soon I was fast asleep.
Sir Lancelot,
I flew from Manila directly to Siem Reap quite cheaply via Cebu Pacific Airlines.
Yes, Pub street is as you say, very touristy and the prices jacked up. You can still get beer for 50 cents from some restaurants. Best to eat off the Pub street, the local Cambodian places. While I was there, I saw a few freelancers walking up and down Pub street. They were asking USD 30. 00 but could be talked to less. Frankly, I could care less what the tourists would say if I hooked up with a WG on Pub street. I had a few sit down with me at my table and we would talk and laugh. The waiters and waitresses know who these girls are and they are OK with it. In fact, I saw a very pretty girl walking down and gave me the eye. Before I could I approach her, the waitress told me that it was a lady boy! I am there to have fun, just like other tourists.
three long days exploring the temples had exhausted me, so i had a lie-in and a relaxing afternoon. i bought a bus ticket down to phnom penh for tomorrow and went online to book a hotel room. this meant i had one last night in siem reap. after fucking four girls in three days in bangkok, i'd only slept with one girl in cambodia so far. although i expected this leg of the trip to be relaxed, i wanted another girl tonight.
at 9pm i asked a moto driver on sivatha road to take me to sok san. i didn't have a choice as i couldn't find the place myself the night before and the directions i had were poor. just like the moto driver who took me to top town, he quoted me '$1 there and back'. again it was a low price but i knew he'd gain his money through hotel commission. i hopped on to the back of his bike and we drove north up sivatha road, about 1 kilometre beyond where i reached the night before. just after a large hotel with speed-bumps outside it (vimean thmei hotel i think) we turned left down a dark, bumpy lane. after a hundred yards we turned left in to car-park where there was a large building with graffiti artwork on the walls. i'd arrived at sok san palace.
the moto driver accompanied me through the garish entrance and we were directed to a small room on the right by a middle-aged mamasan and a camp young papasan. the room had white leather couches and the place felt new. seven girls walked in and lined up in front of me. the girls were young but the standard was average. the one on the right had a sexy figure but again i was drawn to a pale-skinned vietnamese girl. she was squeezed in to a purple dress.
i read online that sok san palace has a disco where pretty girls can be taken up to short-time rooms on the premises but i wondered whether that was the old sok san palace. perhaps things are different at the new place? not for the first time i cursed the lack of up-to-date information online.
i considered asking to be taken through to the club but i wasn't certain that a club existed any more. i also didn't want to be disrespectful to the girls lined up in front of me, so i decided to work with what i had. i was tempted by a curvy girl with luscious long brown hair but the pale-skinned girl in the tight purple dress was the most fuckable so i invited her to sit with me. the moto-driver said 'oh man, great choice! ' and leaned across the couch to high-five me. he was relieved that he'd be getting his commission tonight! the girl walked towards me and introduced herself as mimi. she sat down and we chatted. she was from ho chi minh city in vietnam and i was surprised to find out that she was 24 as she looked younger. i bought her a drink and she held my hand as the mamasan quoted me a ridiculous price of $80.
i hate overpaying. 'i paid $50 last time' i said but the mamasan and papasan laughed in such a way that i knew my intel was inaccurate. they chatted in cambodian briefly before the mamasan turned to me and said '$70, lowest price'. this still seemed too high but could i trust my research? all of the info i'd found about sok san palace seemed hopelessly out of date. i was stabbing in the dark.
i decided to play hard-ball. i put on my best poker face and stuck to $50, assuming that the price must be similar to top town. the mamasan and papasan chatted again and looked exasperated before coming down to $65. all the while i was aware of mimi holding my hand, hearing me bargaining to have sex with her. 'but i paid $50 in top town' i said and the mamasan looked pissed off. after a prolonged and tense round of negotiations, in which the mamasan and papasan exchanged sharp words, they reluctantly came to down to $60. i sensed that was their lowest price so i accepted. i'd negotiated hard for ten minutes and didn't think they would go any lower.
i paid $60 and mimi and i left on separate motorbikes. it wasn't necessary as the hotel was just a short distance further up the dirt road on the left. the moto driver walked me to reception where a young guy quoted me $15 for a room for one hour. compare that to the $18 i'm paying per night for my vip room at mandalay inn!
i said 'too much! i pay $10' but he shook his head. the moto driver assured me '$15 is a good price' but of course he would say that, he wanted his juicy commission! i laughed and said 'let me guess, $5 for the room, $5 for him and $5 for you? '. he replied 'no' but his smile betrayed him.
the negotiations (or lack thereof) lasted five minutes, in which time mimi was stood in the doorway looking impatient. i had paid for her for one hour and i was wasting time. my options were limited. i wasn't willing to take her back to my hotel and if i insisted on finding another hotel, taxi commission would apply there too. i reluctantly handed the receptionist $15 but resolved that i wouldn't tip the motorbike driver later. he had already got his 'tip' through commission.
the room was basic but thankfully this time the air-con worked. i was pleasantly surprised when mimi suggested that we shower together and admired her body as she slipped out of her dress. she was slim and had small, firm breasts with erect nipples. in the shower i enjoyed soaping her nubile young body as she stroked my dick.
on the bed she gave me a good slurpy blowjob with lots of eye contact before she lay back and spread her legs. she was a noisy performer, groaning loudly as i fucked her and when she rode me, she took my hands and placed them on her small tits. she put both feet on the bed and rode me in 'asian cowgirl' bouncing up and down with long strokes. i fucked her doggy-style before pushing her to lie flat on her stomach and fucking her hard, my hips slapping in to her soft arse cheeks. it's one of my favourite positions and the girls love it too as their pussy is tight.
i rolled her on to her side and entered her from behind, deep and slow, as she kissed me over her shoulder. she was willing to try lots of positions and at one point assertively pushed me to lie on my back and climbed on top again, this time facing away from me in 'reverse cowgirl'. i got a great view of her bum bouncing up and down and like lots of girls in asia, she had a tattoo across her lower back. afterwards we got changed and i handed her a tip before we went our separate ways. she was an energetic performer who was willing to try lots of positions.
on the way back to my hotel, i asked the moto-driver about zone 1. he said 'club closed'. i was more interested in the zone 1 brothels but he told me 'top town and sok san only'. i'm sure he was just telling me places that offer him a juicy commission, but then he remembered a 'big place called pyramid about 5km out of town'. he told me it has 'nice girls but very expensive'. i assume it would have a similar set-up to top town and if it was pricy it was likely to be near the big hotels on airport road, where cashed-up koreans and japanese stay.
i wasn't in the mood for another girl but if you would like to investigate the zone 1 brothels yourself, walk north along sivatha road and turn left down samdech tep vong street (just before hotel de la paix). take the 2nd road on the right and after 100 yards there are supposedly alleys with small brothels, each containing 'four or five 18-25 year old girls'. assuming they are still there, they charge $20 short-time. perhaps a moto-tour would be the best way to see them.
i didn't tip the moto driver but he didn't mind as he'd already got a nice back-hander from the hotel receptionist while mimi and i were engaged in our bedroom gymnastics. i got back to my hotel and packed. i had an early start next morning and a long bus ride to endure. i was excited that i was on my way to phnom penh.
[QUOTE=Sir Lancelot; 1428837]At 9pm I asked a moto driver on Sivatha Road to take me to Sok San. I read online that Sok San Palace has a disco where pretty girls can be taken up to short-time rooms on the premises but I wondered whether that was the old Sok San Palace. Perhaps things are different at the new place? Not for the first time I cursed the lack of up-to-date information online.
The girl walked towards me and introduced herself as Mimi. She sat down and we chatted. She was from Ho Chi Minh City in Vietnam and I was surprised to find out that she was 24 as she looked younger. I paid $60 and Mimi and I left.
I was pleasantly surprised when Mimi suggested that we shower together and admired her body as she slipped out of her dress. She was slim and had small, firm breasts with erect nipples. In the shower I enjoyed soaping her nubile young body as she stroked my dick. On the bed she gave me a good slurpy blowjob with lots of eye contact before she lay back and spread her legs. She was a noisy performer, groaning loudly as I fucked her and when she rode me, she took my hands and placed them on her small tits. She put both feet on the bed and rode me in 'Asian cowgirl' bouncing up and down with long strokes. I fucked her doggy-style before pushing her to lie flat on her stomach and fucking her hard, my hips slapping in to her soft arse cheeks. It's one of my favourite positions and the girls love it too as their pussy is tight. I rolled her on to her side and entered her from behind, deep and slow, as she kissed me over her shoulder. She was willing to try lots of positions and at one point assertively pushed me to lie on my back and climbed on top again, this time facing away from me in 'reverse cowgirl'. I got a great view of her bum bouncing up and down and like lots of girls in Asia, she had a tattoo across her lower back. Afterwards we got changed and I handed her a tip before we went our separate ways. She was an energetic performer who was willing to try lots of positions.
I got back to my hotel and packed. I had an early start next morning and a long bus ride to endure. I was excited that I was on my way to Phnom Penh.[/QUOTE]Another set of interesting trip reports Lancelot. isn't the Angkor Archialogical Complex fantastic! I am glad to hear Sok San lives. I have fond memories of that place. So does the new Sok San have a disco? I visited the old Sok San back in 2009. I had a great time. Check out my trip report: '3 Days and 3 Nights in Siem Reap – Sok San' dated 05-01-09 if you want to read a comparison between now and then.
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I know you will enjoy Phnom Penh. It's not Bangkok, but there are a lot of great girls, good restaurants, and an amazing national museum. Just take your time barhopping, be friendly, and wait for the right girl to come along. You will know her when you see her. Be sure to check out Zanzibar and Colonial on St 104, Blue Lim on St 130, 136 Bar on you guessed it St 136, Cyrcee bar on St 49, the Sorya Golden Mall on St 51 for a wide range of freelancers if you dare, and Darling Darling nightclub in Nagaworld for hi so expensive candy.
[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo; 1428951]isn't the Angkor Archialogical Complex fantastic!
I know you will enjoy Phnom Penh.[/QUOTE]Angkor Archialogical Complex is a lot of history and worth visiting. Unfortunately, it is owned by oil company who only spend about 10% of the proceeds on the temples and keep the rest of the money. They ask for foreign governments for the upkeep of the temples.
Siem Riep is not really a monger destination but there is enough pussy to be found. It is a good destination for nature lovers like me as there is more to do after the 3 days of temples.
After visiting the temples, I would spend some time in the pool at the hotel and then head to the girl close by who gave me a good massage with BBBJ and sex for all of $20. 00 USD each day. She was hot.
PP is a lot different from Siem Reap. More sex available. Many different places to go to. I have my reports for both Siem Reap and PP posted from last November and so, I won't repeat it.
Sir Lancelot paid a lot but it is what it is. Just have fun.
[QUOTE=LifeIsABeach; 1429020]I have my reports for both Siem Reap and PP posted from last November and so, I won't repeat it.
Sir Lancelot paid a lot but it is what it is. Just have fun.[/QUOTE]Before each trip I spend many hours on this forum, going back often 50 or 100 pages scouring for info. I will undoubtedly have read your info, so thanks for that. Regarding the price, I really do hate overpaying and dug my heels in much as I could. I negotiated hard for ten minutes and reached a point where I just thought they wouldn't go any lower. If I revisited Siem Reap I think I would focus most of my attention on the street walkers that linger around the bottom of Pub Street near Sivatha Road. They were some of the prettiest girls I saw are were available for a lot less than the Sok San and Top Town girls.
[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo;1428951]Check out my trip report: '3 Days and 3 Nights in Siem Reap – Sok San' dated 05-01-09 if you want to read a comparison between now and then. I know you will enjoy Phnom Penh. It's not Bangkok, but there are a lot of great girls, good restaurants, and an amazing national museum. Just take your time barhopping, be friendly, and wait for the right girl to come along. You will know her when you see her. Be sure to check out Zanzibar and Colonial on St 104, Blue Lim on St 130, 136 Bar on you guessed it St 136, Cyrcee bar on St 49, the Sorya Golden Mall on St 51 for a wide range of freelancers if you dare, and Darling Darling nightclub in Nagaworld for hi so expensive candy.[/QUOTE]I remember reading your report and it was a goldmine of info and brilliantly written too. Thanks for the advice about Phnom Penh. Sadly I am posting this diary a whole after I've been to each of the places (to give me time to edit / sort the photos etc) , so I have alredy been to Phnom Penh. I was only there for four nights but thought it was a really exciting place and especially enjoyed the hostess bars on 104 and 136. I will be continuing the diary on the Phnom Penh thread, possibly later tonight if I get time.
[QUOTE=Sir Lancelot;1428176]It was dark by the time I headed back to Siem Reap. On the way back my tuk-tuk driver asked whether he could pick something up from his home. I said okay and we turned in to a dusty side-street off Airport Road. When the driver wasn't steering around pot-holes, he looked over his shoulder and said 'this area, only Cambodians'.[/QUOTE]Surprised you said yes to this, I know you felt like you knew the guy, but in the future don't go off the beaten path you are just setting yourself up for trouble.
Lancelot it cracks me up how concerned you are over avoiding the walk of shame!
I lived in Sihanoukville for half a year at the same hotel, my 2 best friends in the city were the 2 girls who worked at the bar / front desk of the hotel I was at, I talked with them every day while they worked and they saw me parade countless girls through, sometimes 2 within a matter of hours, and right through the restaurant.
Its the culture here, I know it makes you feel a little awkward but you don't need to avoid taking a girl at a certain time or spend $10 on a short time hotel just to avoid it.
Where have been your favorite places to visit for girls? Have you given trip reports on them here?
If you wanted to live cheaply in a place with good girls that you thought was pretty safe where would you choose? A few options?
Thanks
[QUOTE=PussyFeelsGood; 1433799]Lancelot it cracks me up how concerned you are over avoiding the walk of shame!
Where have been your favorite places to visit for girls? Have you given trip reports on them here?
If you wanted to live cheaply in a place with good girls that you thought was pretty safe where would you choose? A few options?[/QUOTE]Haha, it's just a personal preference, but only when I'm in tourist places like Sihanoukville and Siem Reap. In other places I don't mind at all. I understand what you are saying though. I think partly I don't like parading a girl in front of the same people I'll be sitting next to in the restaurant or on a boat-trip next day but it's also about the girls feelings too. I don't think girls like to be seen as pay-for-play, especially in a well-behaved places like Sihanoukville.
As for your first question. It's a tie between Philippines and Thailand. Philippines is MUCH cheaper, more geared to long-time, there are more freelance and 'good girl' opportunities, the girls speak immaculate English and also the Filipino girls are better performers in my opinion. But I dearly love Thailand as well. It's the excitement factor I think. However I enjoy the thrill of the hunt and trying new places and was impressed by Phnom Penh on this trip and also by Jakarta a few years ago. That's a seriously under-rated pay-for-play city with some great girls available for extremely low prices. It has the Pen J brothels, Blok M freelance bars, soapy massage parlours, Hotel Classic (one of the top venues in Asia for pretty girls in my opinion) and very cheap threesomes with young, pretty girls at Hotel Travel.
I've posted diaries of my trips to Philippines, both equally as long as the one I've just finished posting. One of them was about a year ago and the other three years ago.
As for living cheaply. It's not something I've considered yet. I'm only 36 and have not long bought my own place in England. But hypothetically, I think Philippines might be the place I'd settle.
As a matter of interest, what would your answers be to the same questions?
I feel almost exactly the same as you LOL.
I've only been to Cambodia, Thailand and Philippines (where I am now)
I think Cambodia and Thailand are very similar, I would prefer Phnom Penh for two reasons, one is its cheaper and I'm not rich, and secondly and more importantly when considering a place to live the visas are extremely easy where as in Thailand they are anything but (basically would have to get an education visa and go to language school)
As far as girls go Cambodian girls are either hookers or virgins until marriage (99% of the time at least) and overall just arent very into sex or horny.
Thai girls are much better at acting like they are into sex but its quite obvious its all about the money.
Filipino girls are just horny as can be, they enjoy the sex more and you can walk down the street and get smiles from many many girls, its a completely different world there, if you want to live in manila or cebu city its probably closer to Thailand price than cambo price, but angeles is about the same as Cambodia.
And then when you factor in that you can get a girlfriend so easily in PI or dateinasia / random free hookups there it can be even cheaper.
So short version:
Philippines.
Phnom penh.
Thailand.
(I lived in snooky for awhile, it just doesn't rate girl wise with the others to small, assume siem reap would be the same)
This is not where one would normally ask but.
Will hopefully have chance to visit next month for 2 days of biz and then the weekend free for Angkor Wat temples. Anyone have recommendations for a legit tour guide, or maybe just a reliable driver that speaks a little English. I hope to have half of Friday, all day Sat and then part of Sunday before having to catch out to Hanoi. If the tour guide can help with mongering, all the better but my objective is to be a tourist this time. :D
[QUOTE=Sir Lancelot; 1433870]It's a tie between Philippines and Thailand. Philippines is MUCH cheaper, more geared to long-time, there are more freelance and 'good girl' opportunities, the girls speak immaculate English and also the Filipino girls are better performers in my opinion. But I dearly love Thailand as well. As for living cheaply. It's not something I've considered yet. I'm only 36 and have not long bought my own place in England. But hypothetically, I think Philippines might be the place I'd settle.
As a matter of interest, what would your answers be to the same questions?[/QUOTE]I have been to just about every country in SEA. I rate Indonesia very highly but let's keep it a secret as it is a haven. I agree about Filipina girls being naturally more sexual than Thai girls. But for mongering purposes, we have to try them all! It's never going to be the same and that's the beauty of it.
Regarding living cheaply later on, there is no way I can live in California, USA in a USA government pension. I might get some from work but it will not be much. I have over half a million dollars invested and my house will be worth over one million dollars by the time I call quits. So, total, I may have only left about a million dollars of taxes and that has to last plus the pensions. I will also chose Cebu, Philippines as my destination. My reasons are different. I have known a Mayor's wife in Cebu for over 20 years. She is like my little sister. Her elder sister and I have been best friends for 2 decades. We all used to go skiing, horse back riding etc. When we were younger. The First lady's husband got elected for his second and last term this year. The First lady is thinking about the Mayor's job after her husband's term expires in 4 years. Weather she does or not, it makes sense for me to go somewhere I have connections and Cebu would be for me. Also, I am very active person and need to be some what busy. I may even get a part time job from the connections I have. So, Cebu for me in 3 to 4 years.
[QUOTE=Sir Lancelot; 1433870]As for your first question. It's a tie between Philippines and Thailand. Philippines is MUCH cheaper, more geared to long-time, there are more freelance and 'good girl' opportunities, the girls speak immaculate English and also the Filipino girls are better performers in my opinion. But I dearly love Thailand as well. It's the excitement factor I think. However I enjoy the thrill of the hunt and trying new places and was impressed by Phnom Penh on this trip and also by Jakarta a few years ago. That's a seriously under-rated pay-for-play city with some great girls available for extremely low prices.
As for living cheaply. It's not something I've considered yet. I'm only 36 and have not long bought my own place in England. But hypothetically, I think Philippines might be the place I'd settle.
As a matter of interest, what would your answers be to the same questions?[/QUOTE]Agree that Indonesia has lots of fun. I'm done with work in a few years (although a recent investment that went belly up may require me to work a bit more ). I have two apartments in Manila so will live in one, rent the other and have a fair amount of cash but not necessarily enough for next 30 years. Kids, incredibly expensive universities and an ex wife took care of that.
My plan is to do some work 61-65 but nothing that gets in the way of mongering, potter about Asia, like LIAB I've been to every where in Asia. Will have me a vacation every 3 months to a different Asian place.
After 70, will be easy enough to hire a nurse or two for needs, and of course they will be tall leggy, look good in white and hopefully will be good on the taking care side of things. Of ALL things. Haha. Totally prefer the girls in Phils to Thailand but prefer Thai beaches, so will balance both.
[quote]=Sir Lancelot; 1433870]Haha, it's just a personal preference, but only when I'm in tourist places like Sihanoukville and Siem Reap. In other places I don't mind at all. I understand what you are saying though. I think partly I don't like parading a girl in front of the same people I'll be sitting next to in the restaurant or on a boat-trip next day but it's also about the girls feelings too. I don't think girls like to be seen as pay-for-play, especially in a places like Sihanoukville.[/quote]Dear Sir Lancelot,
First, thank you for your reports. I will read them again, before my next trip to Cambodia. I am a newbie, but I did not want to go to Thailand. I been in Thailand many time, but on family holiday, with only small mongering (massage with "happy ending" etc). So after my divorce I wanted to go for a "new area".
Cambodia was an amazing experience.
About "the walk off shame".
In Sihanoukville I was on a long term, one week, with a beautiful girl. We was in hotel close to Victory Hill, Sahkal, (not recommended, had bed bugs) for two night, on Koh Rong Samloen for 4 nights (Paradise Bungalows, very nice) and back to sihanoukville for two nights (BST2, not nice).
I had some great days with my girl. We meet at Sunflower at Victory Hill.
She don't feel ashamed and the same for me. I was with a beautiful girl and she was making some money for her life. What to be ashamed of. Sihanoukville is not that well-behaved.
For my next trip to September I go to Vietnam and then to Combodia. Some day will also go to Thailand, but that have to wait.
Hope some day to meet you out there. Godt luck mongering to you and all of you.
Hi all,
I'm planning my virgin trip to Cambodia. I have about 4 days there before going back to Thailand so I and plan to do PP one day, (taking Air Asia from DM) , then SR for 2 days to see Angkor what and then the last day / night back in PP.
A couple of questions which I couldn't find on the forum, or maybe missed them;
- Is the road between PP to SR really that bad or is it smooth freeway. In other words, would I get there much faster if I hired a car instead of a public bus?
- Or is it better to fly from PP to SR and how much would that cost?
- Is Cambodia cheaper than Thailand for buying Anti-Biotics, Viagra, Cialis and all that stuff? Easy to get?
- Any recommendations for good places to stay with indoor safe and wifi in PP and SR?
- Where are the latest P4P hotspots? Any recommendations?
Thank you and hope to do a nice TR once back.
Wookie.
I don't want to post any unuseful teasing information like some garlic stinkers made here before. As well as to use all these fucking abbreviations some guys think they make them look prof.
Anyway, around 7-8 PM go on foot or take motobai or motorickshaw to these coordinates: 13. 361250, 103. 853100 (just paste them in to google maps search). Get off near Kazna Hotel and follow narrow alley to the point. There are some chicken houses with girls sitting around entrances. Ask for Tea (End of May 2013). She's 1, 50m absolute stunner. Damage is 20-30 USD per hour. You can take a girl to your hotel, no barfine. Or you may want to have a fun experience fucking in one of the 100% sound transparent "rooms" with fan. Just bring a good quality condom with you.
Another place is a real take out big brothel here: 13. 367900, 103. 842217 Damage is 60 USD per one and a half hrs excluding road to hotel and back (for a girl, of course, not for you. Go there around 7 PM or later. There are 30-40, yes thirty or forty girls available for any taste. Note there are no rooms at the brothel.
These are just two places among many others I think to have a really good time in Siem Reap. Don't be stupid and shy. Ask your personal motorickshaw driver you've hired to see the damn Angkor!) There is no reason for him to cheat you.
Try Ta Prohm hotel. Clean, nice wooden decor, inexpensive and girl friendly!
Any questions, gents?
[QUOTE=The Wookie; 1437244]Hi all,
I'm planning my virgin trip to Cambodia. I have about 4 days there before going back to Thailand so I and plan to do PP one day, (taking Air Asia from DM) , then SR for 2 days to see Angkor what and then the last day / night back in PP.
A couple of questions which I couldn't find on the forum, or maybe missed them;
- Is the road between PP to SR really that bad or is it smooth freeway. In other words, would I get there much faster if I hired a car instead of a public bus?
- Or is it better to fly from PP to SR and how much would that cost?
- Is Cambodia cheaper than Thailand for buying Anti-Biotics, Viagra, Cialis and all that stuff? Easy to get?
- Any recommendations for good places to stay with indoor safe and wifi in PP and SR?
- Where are the latest P4P hotspots? Any recommendations?
Thank you and hope to do a nice TR once back.
Wookie.[/QUOTE]Road between PP to SR really that bad. It is not fully paved yet and is bumpy at places. Renting a car would not be a better option. Instead of the bus, take the 10-14 people min van which is quicker and still around USD 10. 00. I flew back from Snooky to Siem Reap, a longer distance and it cost me USD 118. 00. The flight was about 45 minutes. Hence cost may be a little less and about the same time or a bit less.
Is Cambodia cheaper than Thailand for buying Anti-Biotics, Viagra, Cialis and all that stuff?. I bought the Indian import Viagra in Snooky and 4 pills cost be USD 8. 00 at a pharmacy. Quite easy to get.
The rest of your questions are already answered in the posts for Siem Reap and PP. Siem Riep is not really a monger destination but enough freelancers around Pub street and other bars.
Have fun.
[QUOTE=LifeIsABeach; 1437989]Road between PP to SR really that bad: It is not fully paved yet and is bumpy at places. Renting a car would not be a better option. Instead of the bus, take the 10-14 people min van which is quicker and still around USD 10. 00. I flew back from Snooky to Siem Reap, a longer distance and it cost me USD 118. 00. The flight was about 45 minutes, officially 1 hour.
Have fun.[/QUOTE]When you get to your first destination, contact a travel agent. They will tell you the cost of flights and the days / time the planes fly. They can also arrange for hotel pickup if you decide to use the mini van. It takes about 5 1/2 hours by minivan.
The flight from Snookie and Siem Reap is about double the distance from SR and PP. Hence the flight may be cheaper than USD 118. 00.
[QUOTE=LifeIsABeach;1437989]Siem Riep is not really a monger destination but enough freelancers around Pub street and other bars.[/QUOTE]Don't rely on common suggestions like Pub street or "other bars". Or you'll be frustrated. Pub street is just a sex scam place and bars like Micky's bar is full of old garbage lads and drunk barangs. And damn ladyboys! Read my previous post.
Good luck!
[QUOTE=The Wookie; 1437244]Hi all, the.
I'm planning my virgin trip to Cambodia. I have about 4 days there before going back to Thailand so I and plan to do PP one day, (taking Air Asia from DM) , then SR for 2 days to see Angkor what and then the last day / night back in PP.
A couple of questions which I couldn't find on the forum, or maybe missed them;
- Is the road between PP to SR really that bad or is it smooth freeway. In other words, would I get there much faster if I hired a car instead of a public bus?
- Or is it better to fly from PP to SR and how much would that cost?
- Is Cambodia cheaper than Thailand for buying Anti-Biotics, Viagra, Cialis and all that stuff? Easy to get?
- Any recommendations for good places to stay with indoor safe and wifi in PP and SR?
- Where are the latest P4P hotspots? Any recommendations?
Thank you and hope to do a nice TR once back.
Wookie.[/QUOTE]If I read that you plan to go back to Thailand after arriving in Cambodia I would recomment the following route:
Guess you arrive in PP by air, stay there 1, 5 days / 2 nights and take (early morning 7 AM) the boat to Seam Reap.
You will arrive around 2 PM in Seam Reap.
After 1, 5 (or 2, 5) day in SR you can take a people carrier (for 10 or 15 USD) to Bangkok (or to Pattaya).
The trip to BKK takes around 7 hours (including 1 hour border passing by Pol Pet border crossing which seems the most efficient). There are several departures per day between 6 PM and 1 PM (if my memory is correct).
The trip over water will cost 35 USD and beside travelling by air this is the fastest way of transport between PP and SR (and no bad road and / or traffic jams).
Their are many travel agents / offices and you can buy the tickets till 1 day before your departure. Mostly it includes (tuc tuc) transport from tour your hotel to the starting point of the trip.
Hope that others can help you with your other questions.
[QUOTE=The Wookie; 1437244]Hi all,
I'm planning my virgin trip to Cambodia. I have about 4 days there before going back to Thailand so I and plan to do PP one day, (taking Air Asia from DM) , then SR for 2 days to see Angkor what and then the last day / night back in PP.
A couple of questions which I couldn't find on the forum, or maybe missed them;
- Is the road between PP to SR really that bad or is it smooth freeway. In other words, would I get there much faster if I hired a car instead of a public bus?
- Or is it better to fly from PP to SR and how much would that cost?
- Is Cambodia cheaper than Thailand for buying Anti-Biotics, Viagra, Cialis and all that stuff? Easy to get?
- Any recommendations for good places to stay with indoor safe and wifi in PP and SR?
- Where are the latest P4P hotspots? Any recommendations?
Thank you and hope to do a nice TR once back.
Wookie.[/QUOTE]I forgot some points:
If you have time stay in Phnom Pehn for some days longer. If you are interested in you could visit the killing fields and the prission (I believe called S39) in the middle of PP. A nice balance with mongering activities.
In Seam Reap you can easily spend 3 days for visiting the ancient park. There are several routes and If you frequently leave your tuc tuc you can see a lot. Seam Reap evening live is less than in SR.
For PP try the landscape hotel, equivalent to 4 star in other countries for around 50 USD (its on the boulevard and gf).
For SR try the Tara Angor hotel a little out of town, simulair to PP and if you are lucky try the inhouse massage parlor and If you are lucky you can get a HJ. The girl was fantastic (for 10 USD) but she didn't want to come to my room.
Hope you enjoy and in general Cambodia is cheaper then Thailand.
[quote=the wookie;1437244]is the road between pp to sr really that bad or is it smooth freeway. in other words, would i get there much faster if i hired a car instead of a public bus? or is it better to fly from pp to sr and how much would that cost?[/quote]i made the journey in reverse a few months ago (by reverse i mean from siem reap to phnom penh, we didn't reverse all the way). the quality of the road wasn't that bad really. i booked a ticket on a minibus which was very cheap ($10 i think but i can't quite remember). the journey took about six hours but that included the usual comfort / snack break halfway which took at least 30 minutes. hiring a car wouldn't really save you that much time, maybe an hour at most, but i don't think it would be worth the stress of driving. you could fly but siem reap is a small airport that struggles to cope with demand, so prices are very high. if i was you i'd book a place on a minibus. they leave early so you mongering adventures needn't suffer.
[quote=askeaske;1437024]first, thank you for your reports. i will read them again, before my next trip to cambodia. i am a newbie, but i did not want to go to thailand. i been in thailand many time, but on family holiday, with only small mongering (massage with "happy ending" etc). so after my divorce i wanted to go for a "new area". cambodia was an amazing experience. for my next trip to september i go to vietnam and then to combodia.[/quote]i'm glad you had a good time and i hope my reports proved useful. cambodia is a useful alternative to thailand, especially phnom penh which has lots of pretty girls available for cheap prices. i have only been to vietnam as a tourist but it is somewhere on my radar too. please post a field report with your findings. another place you might like to consider is indonesia. it's a great country with lots to do and i'd rate jakarta as one of the most exciting pay-for-play cities in the world. there are some very pretty girls and it's very cheap too.
[quote=vitold;1437906]another place is a real take out big brothel here: 13. 367900, 103. 842217 damage is 60 usd per one and a half hrs excluding road to hotel and back (for a girl, of course, not for you. go there around 7 pm or later. there are 30-40, yes thirty or forty girls available for any taste. note there are no rooms at the brothel.[/quote]nice field report, nice to see some pics too. the girl in the yellow was a good find. sounds like the place you're describing is top town (i tried typing in those co-ordinates but it didn't work). it's down a dust track off airport road. either that or sok san palace which is some distance down sivatha road, left after a big hotel with speed bumps outside it.
[quote=lifeisabeach;1438003]when you get to your first destination, contact a travel agent. they will tell you the cost of flights and the days / time the planes fly. they can also arrange for hotel pickup if you decide to use the mini van. it takes about 5 1/2 hours by minivan.[/quote][quote=vitold;1438018]don't rely on common suggestions like pub street or "other bars". or you'll be frustrated. pub street is just a sex scam place and bars like micky's bar is full of old garbage lads and drunk barangs. and damn ladyboys! read my previous post.[/quote][quote=somewhere15; 1438281]if i read that you plan to go back to thailand after arriving in cambodia i would recomment the following route: guess you arrive in pp by air, stay there 1, 5 days / 2 nights and take (early morning 7 am) the boat to seam reap.
you will arrive around 2 pm in seam reap. the trip over water will cost 35 usd and beside travelling by air this is the fastest way of transport between pp and sr (and no bad road and / or traffic jams).[/quote][quote=sir lancelot; 1438614]i made the journey in reverse a few months ago. the quality of the road wasn't that bad really. i booked a ticket on a minibus which was very cheap ($10 i think but i can't quite remember). the journey took about six hours but that included the usual comfort / snack break halfway which took at least 30 minutes. minibus.
nice field report, nice to see some pics too. the girl in the yellow was a good find. sounds like the place you're describing is top town (i tried typing in those co-ordinates but it didn't work). it's down a dust track off airport road. either that or sok san palace which is some distance down sivatha road, left after a big hotel with speed bumps outside it.[/quote]thanks for all the advice,
so far i've decided on minibus / minivan for $10 and 6/5. 5 hours of traveling by road.
by boat will take 7 hours according to above stated (start 7am. arrive 2 pm) and i've also read it depends on the tide and number of passengers.
i will fly from don muang to pp and stay there for one night, then the following day go to siem reap.
stay in sr for 2 nights (i'll have at least one full day for angkor what) and go back to pp and stay there one night because i've already booked a plane ride back to don muang from pp. (in retrospect, i should have travelled back to thailand straight form sr)
i've also tried vitold's coordinates but they don't seem to work. the quality of the girls in the pics looks great though. if it is top town and sok san palace like sirlancelot mentions, well worth a visit, although i thought these places were also touristy and the prices a little high for cambodia? i mean i hear people quoting $15-$20 from free lancers. also to get there one might get scammed by moto or tuk tuk driver?
is hiring your own bike as easy in cambo as it is in pattaya or is it just not safe to drive in cambo?
for hotels so far i've narrowed it down to blue tongue in pp and jasmin villa garden in sr although i'm not sure about the guest friendly policy over there.
other options are :
siem reap.
[url]http://www.jasminegardenvilla.com/[/url]
[url]http://room.angkorthomguesthouse.com/[/url]
phnom p.
[url]http://www.tonlesapguesthouse.com/rooms.html[/url]
[url]http://www.goldenhouse.asia/site/?p=about#here[/url]
[url]http://www.home-town-hotel.com/reservation[/url]
[url]https://www.thebookingbutton.com.au/properties/bluetonguedirect[/url]
[url]http://www.walkabouthotel.com/therooms.html[/url]
don't need a palace but don't want a dump either so i think i should be fine for $20 per night?
thanks again
wookie
[quote=sir lancelot;1438614]nice field report, nice to see some pics too. the girl in the yellow was a good find. sounds like the place you're describing is top town (i tried typing in those co-ordinates but it didn't work). it's down a dust track off airport road. either that or sok san palace which is some distance down sivatha road, left after a big hotel with speed bumps outside it.[/quote]the forum has built in word correction engine. 13. 367900, 103. 842217 . copy and pase in to google maps, delete spaces between dot and 3 & dot and 8. push enter. the actual location marked by green arrow. red baloon. advertisement. good luck.
p. s. actually, the girl in pink is one and a half meter stunner and much more kawai than other one. sorry for poor photo.
[QUOTE=The Wookie;1438869]I've also tried Vitold's coordinates but they don't seem to work.[/QUOTE]He intentional left one blank space btn the numbers; they do work.
[QUOTE=Traveler1234;1438918]He intentional left one blank space btn the numbers; they do work.[/QUOTE]So what are the complete coordinates?
And do they lead to Top Town or is this another venue?
[QUOTE=The Wookie; 1438869]So far I've decided on minibus / minivan for $10 and 6/5. 5 hours of traveling by road.
The quality of the girls in the pics looks great though. If it is Top Town and Sok San Palace like SirLancelot mentions, well worth a visit, although I thought these places were also touristy and the prices a little high for Cambodia? I mean I hear people quoting $15-$20 from free lancers. Also to get there one might get scammed by moto or tuk tuk driver?
Is hiring your own bike as easy in Cambo as it is in Pattaya or is it just not safe to drive in Cambo?[/QUOTE]Wookie, You can get freelancers for $15-20 USD. The prices paid by Lancelot and Vitold are on the high side. $50. $60 USD is just way too much for Cambodia. Once you ask a a tuk tuk to find you to a chicken farm or a brothel or a KTV bar, you are going to be paying his commission, which is calculated in the girl's price. Total waste of money. The service is not any better if you pay more. I paid $20. 00 to a girl in SR for a full oil massage and full sex also daily.
Hence use tuk tuks to take you from point A to B. They are cheap. Maybe a dollar or two for the journey. As you are in Cambodia for a very short time, why waste time looking for a bike rental place and figuring out how to get to your destination. You can also get a bike rider to take you to your destination. Sit on the back and enjoy the ride. I enjoyed that transportation method.
In PP, try staying on or close to street 51 as there is enough pussy to keep you occupied for a long time. On your next longer vacation, you can try out the other areas too.
[QUOTE=Vitold; 1438908]The forum has built in word correction engine. 13. 367900, 103. 842217. Copy and pase in to google maps, delete spaces between dot and 3 & dot and 8. Push enter. The actual location marked by green arrow. Red baloon. Advertisement. Good luck.[/QUOTE]Got it, thanks.
[QUOTE=LifeIsABeach; 1439163]Wookie, You can get freelancers for $15-20 USD. The prices paid by Lancelot and Vitold are on the high side. $50. $60 USD is just way too much for Cambodia. Once you ask a a tuk tuk to find you to a chicken farm or a brothel or a KTV bar, you are going to be paying his commission, which is calculated in the girl's price. Total waste of money. The service is not any better if you pay more. I paid $20. 00 to a girl in SR for a full oil massage and full sex also daily.
Hence use tuk tuks to take you from point A to B. They are cheap. Maybe a dollar or two for the journey. As you are in Cambodia for a very short time, why waste time looking for a bike rental place and figuring out how to get to your destination. You can also get a bike rider to take you to your destination. Sit on the back and enjoy the ride. I enjoyed that transportation method.
In PP, try staying on or close to street 51 as there is enough pussy to keep you occupied for a long time. On your next longer vacation, you can try out the other areas too.[/QUOTE]Ok, so I won't rent a bike. I agree with $50-$60 being way too much, even for Thailand but it depends on the quality of the girl though. Probably once I get there all my plans will go out the window anyway.
In Phnom Penh I would stay near walkabout / Pontoon.
That area is flooded with freelancers.
You are guys right actually. There is no difference in girl's age, attitude or charm for 20 or 60 bucks. It's your own luck. Or laziness, or fear. Just want to point SR is not sex empty place as some told here before. And don't visit Pub street for mongering. It's a total bullshit!
[QUOTE=PussyFeelsGood; 1439414]In Phnom Penh I would stay near walkabout / Pontoon.
That area is flooded with freelancers.[/QUOTE]That's Street 51 area. Most places during the day have beer for 50 cents. Walkabout is good as beer is cheap there at any time.
Pontoon has so many pretty girls.
[quote=lifeisabeach; 1439163]wookie, you can get freelancers for $15-20 usd. the prices paid by lancelot and vitold are on the high side. $50. $60 usd is just way too much for cambodia. once you ask a a tuk tuk to find you to a chicken farm or a brothel or a ktv bar, you are going to be paying his commission, which is calculated in the girl's price. total waste of money. the service is not any better if you pay more. i paid $20. 00 to a girl in sr for a full oil massage and full sex also daily...[/quote]as i mentioned in my diary, top town and sok san palace are very expensive places. i haggled hard in each place and got prices of $50 (top town) and $60 (sok san palace). i suspect the main customers of these places aren't the type of people who read this forum, they're cashed-up tourists who feel horny one evening and relish the chance to get away from the friends / tour party (or partner?) for a bit of naughty action. these people don't want to be trawling the local freelance bars or walking up and down sivatha road, they want sex-on-a-plate and i'd bet that the majority of customers are japanese or korean. certainly those i saw were. undoubtedly top town and sok san charge high prices compared to other places in cambodia but that's because they know they can. you've also got to pay extra ($10) for a room for an hour at a short-time hotel nearby (unless you take her back to your hotel).
my prices were higher because i took a motorbike taxi to both venues. both drivers said that they'd charge me $1 for a return trip to both venues (from the end of pub street) but of course that's because they know they'll get commission from either the venue or the hotel. when i went in to both venues i was followed inside by my driver, so obviously that pushed the price higher. normally i never pay commission, i'll either walk or take public transport, however both top town and sok san are difficult to find. top town is on a road just left off airport road but i couldn't tell you the name of it as i was on the back of a motorbike and it was dark. sok san palace is some distance up sivatha road, heading out of siem reap. it's the first left after a hotel which has speed bumps outside it. if you make your own way there then you'll get a cheaper price but neither is walking distance and both are in the middle of nowhere, down dusty tracks.
freelancers charge far less and actually three of the prettiest four girls i saw in siem reap were freelance hookers near where sivatha road meets pub street. these girls charge $20. looking for street-walkers can be hit and miss of course. sometimes your luck is in and sometimes it isn't and you've got to take in to account that cambodia is very hot and if you spend too long walking about, you'll be a sweaty mess by the time you find your girl! the chicken farms are another option. find a reliable moto driver, tell him 'chicken farm, not top town or sok san' and see where he takes you.
[QUOTE=HenryFranklin; 1423362]Hi LifeisaBeach,
I read your report with great interest. So you actually had full sex INSIDE the massage parlour? I guess then it would be pretty easy to get a handjob happy ending in comparison. I think I know the places you are talking about.
Even still, I'm a young 28 year old guy, and frankly, I wouldn't want to put up with such emotional BS from some lady who is clearly only interested in using western men for their money. Why do you think she was so emotional? She doesn't love you, dude. She loves your MONEY and she wants a GREEN CARD. So while I am happy that you had a good time with her, I think I'll skip it and just jerk off to internet porn. It's a lot easier, and at least porn won't be crying at me and asking me to marry her. Nor will 6 cops bust into the room with cameras and try to arrest me.
By the way, I am in the process of trying to start up a software company which will develop virtual reality sex programs. Hopefully within another few years, real human women won't even be necessary for sexual satisfaction.
Cheers![/QUOTE]Wow, a guy that actually HOPES that technology will lead to "real human woman won't even be necessary for sexual satisfaction"? Hey man, I'm from Australia, and we are kinda simple here. But we do have a saying: "sex is always great fun, but sex by yourself doesn't really count." Please think about that the next time you arrange a hot date with your self and some internet porn. And please don't tell the guys on ISG about it, I'm sure most ISG members don't want to know.
Cheers!
Not much useful info from myself but here's a short report from last night.
After a long long fun night of partying and drinking in BKK I got into SR a few days ago. First night way too tired to go looking for anything so just dinner and back to the hotel to sleep.
First day of temple-ing was amazing but wore me out, so night two I also had a quiet one with a couple of beers then sleep.
After day 2 I was tired again, but it had been 3 days with no action so I had the itch (not the one where you have to go see a doctor thankfully!). I walked around pub street area to check if there were any opportunities but didn't see much. One pretty looking girl stroked my arm and smiled, but to be honest it could have been a ladyboy and I didn't want to to take any chances.
I'd read on here that Mikey's was bad but went anyway and it lived up to expectations. Very quiet (this was 11pm-ish). Maybe two or three other guys in there and a few girls. None of the girls were above a 5 and they all looked like they'd been doing this for years. Drank with the prettiest one there who was a very petite 25yo. After some pool we agreed $30 (I know too much but sometimes I just can't be bothered arguing for 10 minutes about price).
At the hotel she was well below average. No head, no fingering just clit rubbing, mish only. Zzzzzzz. Afterwards she had the gall to try to get more money from me than agreed. Seriously WTF? Gave her the agreed $ and told her to leave. Overall a big fat disappointment.
On a brighter note I had a fantastic massage today (non-naughty, no extras offered and I didn't ask) with a gorgeous sweet girl. Worn out legs from the temples feel much better now. Going to try a 'chicken farm' tonight from the directions given on here. Hope tonight goes well and hope to hell that Phnom Penh is better than here for nighttime activities! Cheers gents.
[QUOTE=Vitold;1437906]Anyway, around 7-8 PM go on foot or take motobai or motorickshaw to these coordinates: 13. 361250, 103. 853100 (just paste them in to google maps search). Get off near Kazna Hotel and follow narrow alley to the point. There are some chicken houses with girls sitting around entrances. Ask for Tea (End of May 2013). She's 1, 50m absolute stunner. Damage is 20-30 USD per hour. You can take a girl to your hotel, no barfine. Or you may want to have a fun experience fucking in one of the 100% sound transparent "rooms" with fan. Just bring a good quality condom with you.?[/QUOTE]Kazan is no longer there. Look for Smiley Guesthouse, off Taphul Road in small alley. Walk toward guesthouse, turn right into another alley, three units down, chicken houses start on left. Asked for Tea, and / a. Lets just say I slept alone"
[QUOTE=Traveler1234;1447999]Kazan is no longer there. Look for Smiley Guesthouse, off Taphul Road in small alley. Walk toward guesthouse, turn right into another alley, three units down, chicken houses start on left. Asked for Tea, and / a. Lets just say I slept alone"[/QUOTE]The alley leading to Smileys runs alongside Wooden Angkor Hotel.
Are you saying turn into the alley that goes to Smileys? I was not aware there was a further alley to the right before Smileys
[QUOTE=Bumholes1; 1448161]The alley leading to Smileys runs alongside Wooden Angkor Hotel.
Are you saying turn into the alley that goes to Smileys? I was not aware there was a further alley to the right before Smileys[/QUOTE]Smileys is recessed from the Main Street, you need to walk in a long driveway to get to front entrance. Just before reaching it, there is a small alley on the right. Wk down this alley for the chicken farms
[QUOTE=Maestro Boy; 1442160]Wow, a guy that actually HOPES that technology will lead to "real human woman won't even be necessary for sexual satisfaction"? Hey man, I'm from Australia, and we are kinda simple here. But we do have a saying: "sex is always great fun, but sex by yourself doesn't really count." Please think about that the next time you arrange a hot date with your self and some internet porn. And please don't tell the guys on ISG about it, I'm sure most ISG members don't want to know.
Cheers![/QUOTE]Well said Maestro. Henry is getting into too much detail. Just enjoy the sex and say good bye. Sex with a woman is much better than tossing off yourself.
[QUOTE=Traveler1234;1448184]Smileys is recessed from the Main Street, you need to walk in a long driveway to get to front entrance. Just before reaching it, there is a small alley on the right. Wk down this alley for the chicken farms[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info. Noticed the occasional girl loitering in the alley leading to Smileys but had no idea there were brothels behind!
Added on Siem Reap to a Bangkok visit in order to throw a smoke screen around my real agenda for going to Thailand. History and temples of Angkor what was my line and I did visit the temples too. But I had decided to make the most out of my side trip so started by trying to build a pipeline through a dating site. Number of women from Cambodia on the site were low and Siem Reap even more so, but managed to line up one girl as a tour guide for $30 a day which included transport and her company and as I discovered no real knowledge of history or architecture. But what the hell, she was hot and keen to make an extra buck. So she spent night one with me for an extra $50 which covered two sessions including BBBJs and FS. We had worked out the deal online before I arrived in Cambodia but I had kept an exit clause. Just in case I didn't like her. Of course I made it a two way exit clause.
My second night in SR I decided to look for variety and possibly save a few bucks, but turned out to be a bad decision. I had noticed a few women in the bars on pub street on night one, so went there and looked for a pick up. It was Sunday, numbers were low, so settled for the best among those available and negotiated a deal using my phone calculator. She typed in $70 to which I typed $30 and we played that game till closure at $40. I thought it would be LT but turned out to be a not so enjoyable ST. Babe insisted on money up front. The moment I came she was up and away. Having said that, my feel of the marketing is that you need to spend a bit of time looking around and then do a deal for a night or few days with one babe. You should be able to close on 50-75 bucks a day for a very nice GFE.
I should add that I found a very nice boutique hotel with a pool and breakfast for $25 per day. This was thought he usual hotel portals.
[QUOTE=JoyRider60;1459337]I should add that I found a very nice boutique hotel with a pool and breakfast for $25 per day. This was thought he usual hotel portals.[/QUOTE]Specific info always much more helpful. E. G., the name of that "nice boutique hotel."
[QUOTE=JoyRider60;1459337]. managed to line up one girl as a tour guide for $30 a day which included transport and her company and as I discovered no real knowledge of history or architecture. But what the hell, she was hot and keen to make an extra buck. So she spent night one with me for an extra $50 which covered two sessions including BBBJs and FS. .[/QUOTE]Mind sharing her details by private message? I will be in SR next month for a few days, and might like some company!
Thanks.
Just booked 2 nights at the Friendly Villa. Anyone have experience with this hotel and if it will let me bring back a girl? I booked the room for 2 adults.
[QUOTE=JoyRider60; 1459337]Added on Siem Reap to a Bangkok visit in order to throw a smoke screen around my real agenda for going to Thailand. History and temples of Angkor what was my line and I did visit the temples too. But I had decided to make the most out of my side trip so started by trying to build a pipeline through a dating site. Number of women from Cambodia on the site were low and Siem Reap even more so, but managed to line up one girl as a tour guide for $30 a day which included transport and her company and as I discovered no real knowledge of history or architecture. But what the hell, she was hot and keen to make an extra buck. So she spent night one with me for an extra $50 which covered two sessions including BBBJs and FS. We had worked out the deal online before I arrived in Cambodia but I had kept an exit clause. Just in case I didn't like her. Of course I made it a two way exit clause.
My second night in SR I decided to look for variety and possibly save a few bucks, but turned out to be a bad decision. I had noticed a few women in the bars on pub street on night one, so went there and looked for a pick up. It was Sunday, numbers were low, so settled for the best among those available and negotiated a deal using my phone calculator. She typed in $70 to which I typed $30 and we played that game till closure at $40. I thought it would be LT but turned out to be a not so enjoyable ST. Babe insisted on money up front. The moment I came she was up and away. Having said that, my feel of the marketing is that you need to spend a bit of time looking around and then do a deal for a night or few days with one babe. You should be able to close on 50-75 bucks a day for a very nice GFE.
I should add that I found a very nice boutique hotel with a pool and breakfast for $25 per day. This was thought he usual hotel portals.[/QUOTE]Interested in finding out "girl tour guide" you had. How did you find her? I would like similar experience. Arriving SR for the first time on Oct 17 for 3 nights.
[QUOTE=Esgeone;1472533]Interested in finding out "girl tour guide" you had. How did you find her? I would like similar experience. Arriving SR for the first time on Oct 17 for 3 nights.[/QUOTE]On Badoo. Search by city.
[QUOTE=Mr Jetsetter;1461623]Specific info always much more helpful. E. G., the name of that "nice boutique hotel."[/QUOTE]It was Jayavara Boutique Villa and I found it through [url]www.booking.com[/url].
Royal Angkor Resort & Spa will be there between 9th and 13th would love get some tips and inputs from seniors here. My first visit to Cambodia and any tips and help would be most welcome and highly appreciated!
[QUOTE=Bangind;1474041]Royal Angkor Resort & Spa will be there between 9th and 13th would love get some tips and inputs from seniors here. My first visit to Cambodia and any tips and help would be most welcome and highly appreciated![/QUOTE]Hi,
Cambodia is a pretty nice place and Siem Reap is very guest friendly. You might want to check whether the Royal Angkor Resort is girl friendly if you intend to take the girl to your hotel. I had to pay US$15 when I stayed in Siem Reap to get a girl in with me. They said it is because I booked as single occupancy in Agoda.
You can visit the Pub street and you do get free lancers. Hip Hop has its share of free lancers as well. Most of them don't speak English but you can get your way anyway. There is also fish tank called Top Town but a bit expensive. Not my type, as I prefer free lancers. Every other tuk-tuk guy will solicit and all you need is to say yes.
Don't forget to try their massages. Awesome massage at throw away prices.
Have a good time.
[QUOTE=Oorvampu; 1474710]Hi,
You can visit the Pub street and you do get free lancers. Hip Hop has its share of free lancers as well. Most of them don't speak English but you can get your way anyway. There is also fish tank called Top Town but a bit expensive. Not my type, as I prefer free lancers. Every other tuk-tuk guy will solicit and all you need is to say yes.
Have a good time.[/QUOTE]I was just in SR last week, and I didn't see too many FL (if any?) in the Pub Street bars, but I wasn't out too late. From what I've read they don't show up until 11 or 12. There are some street girls for sure hanging around on the west end of Pub Street starting earlier, and there is also a bar called Mikey's that I found wandering around after Pub Street one night. It was an odd place. Very rough bar, not in the sense of dangerous just lots of rough, worn-about-the-edges expats and lots of WGs. It is all WGs, in fact. Quality wasn't great. There were maybe a couple 6-7s, and lots of sub-5s. I did meet one young thin young lass who was among the 6s, and took her out for $30 plus guest house, which I think was only $5 or $10.
Overall SR is a great visit, but as others have mentioned the options for company aren't the best. But they do exist.
Oh PS Mikey's is along the main street that borders the west side of Pub Street, sorry I don't know the name of the street. But just walk north on that street for a few blocks, maybe 4 or 5 at the most. It's on the left-hand side, with a couple pool tables along an open front patio area, can't really miss it if you're on the right street. Or just ask a tuk-tuk driver, I'm sure they know it. Shame to pay for a ride though as it's only 5 minutes walk from Pub Street. No barfine BTW, it's just free-lancers.
[QUOTE=Oorvampu; 1474710]Hi,
Don't forget to try their massages. Awesome massage at throw away prices.
Have a good time.[/QUOTE]Hope to meet up in SR and have some fun like we used to do! Will definitely try the massage any recommendation PM me!
Just landed from BKK this morning, had a stroll along pub street. Quality as mentioned before is average. Got lucky with a french tourist in one of the pubs, invited her over for dinner and now back in my room for some action. Angkor sunrise will be a good excuse to get rid of her quick.
Well after two days of touring the area I took a tuk tuk driver up on his offer to go to a supposedly local KTV. Went to this place located way out of the tourist zone and saw like
Maybe 65 plus ladies. They were all friendly. I had a difficult time figuring out who really had a nice body with big tits as they all were sitting down and some hiding their stomachs.
The mamasan first wanted $60 but finally lowered it down to $50 at which point I walked out looking for a lower price option. I couldn't find anything to my liking so I went back figuring with 65 ladies to pick from someone has to has a really good body with big tits. Well I picked wrong and good fooled by her youthful looks and super padded bra. There was some communication problem and I ended up paying another $10 for an additional short time hotel for a total of $60 for one hour. We were done after 50 minutes and she insisted I should tip her as she gave me a massage, although she did mentioned that she would do that as part of her service. I refused and she ended up hassling the tuk tuk driver for it from his cut. For a person who still gets his type of girl in Shenzhen, China for less than $25 this was really stupid on my part. Especially as I had talked to a couple of guys at the hotel during breakfast who mentioned a bar two blocks up where one had gotten overnight for $30. I'll probably come back to RP but definitely not for paid sex.
Sorry for coming here and asking stuff.
I am just about to visit SR, it's temples and what not.
I will renting a scooter.
I am looking for a 100% hotel / guest house GF / SW friendly. Not extra charge (if poss). No question asked.
Anyone feeling like recommending me an open minded female guide, don't hesitate.
PM Welcome & thank you!
Will be checking on and off ISG when in SR.
I'll be reporting my ups and downs when back.
[QUOTE=Haokool; 1506473]Sorry for coming here and asking stuff.
I am just about to visit SR, it's temples and what not.
I will renting a scooter.
I am looking for a 100% hotel / guest house GF / SW friendly. Not extra charge (if poss). No question asked.
Anyone feeling like recommending me an open minded female guide, don't hesitate.
PM Welcome & thank you!
Will be checking on and off ISG when in SR.
I'll be reporting my ups and downs when back.[/QUOTE]Try this link:
[url]http://www.bargirlfriendlyhotels.com/siem-reap-guest-friendly-hotels/[/url]
Last time I stay at this hotel:
[url]http://www.angkorsecretgardenhotel.com/[/url]
Very nice and very friendly maneger, mr. Lucky.
You can not rent scooter in Siem Reap, but it is cheap to rent a tuktuk for the day, when you want to go to Anghor Wat.
At AskeAske,
Thanks for your reply, I have researched the web, I found this link for friendly guest houses few pages down, and yes it is not possible to rent a scooter in SR.
I might be tried a couple of places were to sleep, I like to move around, it will also allow me to report on all of those.
Arrived last night in SR 12/18.
Prohm is well located but their 20 bucks is actually 35.
Moving out!
Not going to post a full don't report using my iPhone keyboard. SR is loaded with GF, visited 3 farms 20 a pop. Spoted 2 more. My op is to avoid at al cost this nasty joint that is Mikey, more to come on my experiences there.
Do yourself a favour, don't be a dick, rent a bicycle, cruise around.
Just coming out of this large open bar far from downton. Took 2 girls one pitcher 3 rice chicken 10 USD. Great fun, tru Cambodia, soft, polite, funny.
[QUOTE=Haokool; 1511776]Not going to post a full don't report using my iPhone keyboard. SR is loaded with GF, visited 3 farms 20 a pop. Spoted 2 more. My op is to avoid at al cost this nasty joint that is Mikey, more to come on my experiences there.
Do yourself a favour, don't be a dick, rent a bicycle, cruise around.
Just coming out of this large open bar far from downton. Took 2 girls one pitcher 3 rice chicken 10 USD. Great fun, tru Cambodia, soft, polite, funny.[/QUOTE]Seems like you are having a great time. Makes notes and look forward to you detail reports when you get back home. Have a happy new year.
Hi all,
Question if Park Hyatt hotel in Siem Reap is girl friendly? (to pay a small fee is not a big deal, just no questions asked is important).
Thanks,
FL
[QUOTE=Haokool;1506843]and yes it is not possible to rent a scooter in SR.[/QUOTE]I just had tor 15$. I know it's expensive for Cambodia, and had to bargain for a while, but look like the only option, as noone rent motos here, don't know why. I got at Boomerang Guesthouse, I rented to him the day before a bike so he trusted me.
I visited 2 farms, but few choice. Where was the farm did you get so good time?
Massages in Siem Reap are incredibly inexpensive! I had a one hour foot massage (as a kind of appetizer!) in my hotel room for $6.
Followed up with a four hands massage at a neat spa for US $ 10!
HJ was offered at $50 (WTF!) came down to $20 but I passed.
In 2011, I had a 2 hour full body oil massage in my hotel room for US $15. I was staying at Golden Orange Hotel. But no HJ or sex was offered.
[QUOTE=Peter Patros; 1527370]Massages in Siem Reap are incredibly inexpensive! I had a one hour foot massage (as a kind of appetizer!) in my hotel room for $6.
Followed up with a four hands massage at a neat spa for US $ 10! HJ was offered at $50 (WTF!) came down to $20 but I passed.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=LifeIsABeach; 1423056]Oct 7 – Oct 10 and Oct 19. Oct 21.
By the time I got back to hotel at about 5. 00 PM, all I wanted was a shower and a good massage. The hotel had a in-room massage service too starting at $6. 00 / hour. Close to the hotel, I had seen a massage place and I decided to go there. I could not find the street name even on a map. The best way to find this street is where the Maharajah restaurant and the Moon Villa and Spa are on Sivatha Blvd. Turn into the street going west. You will see two massage places. I think the one with Guys pictures may be a gay place. Keep walking, it is the next one. I saw a woman there with a really nice body, big tits and nice ass. Nice face too. $5. 00 for oil massage.[/QUOTE]Went for a short vacation to Siem Reap and had RTFF 10 pages on this forum for the info on "massage with boom boom" as I was traveling with my better half and could not risk going to KTV or chicken farms or brothels. So this post is only for people like me who are looking for "massage with boom boom" or "special massage"
Had some searching to do for the first two days in siem reap. As one report had mentioned "lane next to park hyatt" and another had mentioned "lane next to maharaja restaurant". Let me give you the low down on my experiences, as I went to three parallel lanes. These lanes will be there on your right hand side if you are walking on sivatha road, from Park Hyatt in the direction of pub street. Yes, Park Hyatt main entrance should be on your right hand side.
#1 = lane next to park hyatt = does not have any massage parlours, so please don't waste your time. (Exploration on Day 1)
#2 = lane after mickeys night bar / blue wave bar, going towards Angkor night market/ (Exploration on Day 3)
This lane is about 200-300 meters long and leads towards the night market. There are at least 3-4 massage parlours on each side of this lane. In this lane, everywhere, printed pricing was $8 for 1 hour oil massage but all were giving discount of $2 on the printed pricing! This street had slightly better quality of rooms and places than the one mentioned below in #3 lane. They all had massage chairs stationed outside next to the street so I am assuming that tourists and locals get foot massages done in the night after or before visiting the famous Angkor night market. Asked at 4-5 different places for "boom boom massage" but no one was ready. At 3 places, girls were ready to give "special massage" which meant only hand job. All refused blow jobs and sex. One said YES for Lip kissing / DFK, but then was not willing to remove her clothes. While another one said "no touching my body"! Pricing for the "special massage" varied from $10 to $20 after negotiations! I liked 2 women (1 each at 2 different places) but did not end up doing any business because of the girls' pre-conditions and the pricing associated with their pre-conditions. Actually because of the language and communication problem, I was not getting the confidence about what kind of services would I be getting from them. I decided to go back to lane #3 and try a different lady for my Experience 2.
#3 = lane after india gate restaurant, going towards Artisans Angkor / 8 Room Villa Hotel / Golden Temple Villa Guesthouse. (Exploration on Day 2)
I remembered the post from fellow ISG member KNIOM (post number #658 in this same forum)"A couple of posts down one gentleman described his experience at a massage shop. You'll find it by going the street leading to Hotels called "Golden Temple Villa and "Golden Butterfly Villa. I went past it a month ago. So it is still operating." and then added the info from fellow ISG member LifeIsABeach (his post in quotes above)"Turn into the street going west. You will see two massage places. I think the one with Guys pictures may be a gay place. Keep walking, it is the next one. I saw a woman there with a really nice body, big tits and nice ass."
Experience 1:
I had already located the "gay" place called Blue Hattha Massage (they have only men giving massage service) , but then, was not able to locate the "much-needed" spa near it. After a couple of rounds "up-and-down" the lane, I saw (just next to a makeshift school, and 10 meters away from the gay place) a run down place / house with 3-4 girls / ladies sitting in the front and asking for "massage sir"! Thats when I realised that this is not a "regular" massage place / shop / establishment. When I asked about the pricing, she said $5 for 1 hour oil massage = BANG-ON = I thought to myself and went in with the best looking lady (I would rank her 4/10 only) out of three available.
The rooms were very very basic and had only curtains on the doorway. No attached bathrooms, and one had to go to a common shower area which was also very very basic! All mongers who are anal about hygiene might not like the place. After looking at the run down place / shower area, I decided against "oil" and straightaway asked the lady whether "boom boom" was available. She smiled, thought and said yes! I Thanked GOD / ISG / and forum members in my head! Pricing = She started from $30 and I countered with $10. She confirmed at $15 for 1 pop and 1 hour. She asked whether I had a condom, and promptly got one when I said I did not have.
We both got naked. This lady would be surely 30 plus (and I am presuming that she was already a mom) but she had flat stomach and a toned body. Skin was soft and nice. Only problem was when she opened her bra, she had tiny A-cups. Her extra padded bra was making her look like B / C-cups. Well, I still continued, even though a bit disappointed, and started with kissing her neck and lips, which got her wet in no time. I was already sporting a big hard on in anticipation of mongering in a different country! She was just touching it and fondling it, but refused to take it in her mouth when I requested her. I put on the CD and asked her to come on top, she rode and grinded very nicely on me while I sucked her nips. It took me only 10 minutes to finish because of my heightened excitement. Overall visit lasted only for 20 minutes, but I was happy to have mongered in yet another different part of the world! I realised that $5 I still had to pay to the mamasan for the "room" and that $15 went to the lady who does not disclose to mamasan what has transpired inside the room! So net $20 cost for the session, and I was still happy with that!
Overall. 5/10.
Body. 5/10 (boobs were verrrry small)
BJ. Not allowed.
FJ. 6/10.
Attitude. 5/10.
Experience 2:
After my exploration in lane #2 (on my day 3) , I decided not to spend $10 or $20 for just a hand job with no conformation of whether kissing and body touching would be allowed. So I came to the same place as day 2. This time there were 4 ladies, and only one was common from day 2. And this time, there was one cute and innocent looking babe who would be about 20-21 with a nice body. The massage price was the same, chose the young one and followed her to the room. She was almost zero in english and knew the right (and only english) words for mongering trade. Was not expecting her to say "yes" to "boom boom" but she did, and got a condom from somewhere. Pricing = She started with $50 and I countered with $10. She refused and started to leave. I quickly countered with $15 and she came down to $30. All this was happening by typing the figures on each others phones as she had put a finger to her lips when I mentioned "boom boom"! Ha ha ha. I finally showed her my wallet which had just one note of $20 (I always put my additional cash elsewhere in my clothes, to win in situations like this or worse). She understood that I did not have any more money and thus agreed to the deal. I specified to her that I did not want any "massage" and that I will not be paying "extra $5" to mamasan to use the room. She understood and agreed to these terms.
We undressed ourselves. She was very fair (much fairer than usual Cambodian women) , blemish-less / soft skin, nice firm B-cups (like young 20 yr olds have) with good sized nips. She was 100% hairless in her "V region" (I don't think she had any hair growth at all in that region because it was smooth as a new-born baby) and could not see any stubble or traces of any kind of hair growth! Maybe she gets bikini waxing done, but whatever it was, this was a delight for my sore eyes and fingers that kept on feeling her smoothness for the next 30 minutes! She was not ready for DFK and so only did basic lip kissing. Kissed her neck for some time which got her a bit turned on while playing with her soft clitty. Paid some attention to both her firm nips while I placed her hand on my little bro. Except for holding it or touching it, her hands were not doing much. Asked her for a blow job and she declined. Asked her to come on top (by my hand gestures) , but she declined and said that she would do only missionary position (by her hand gestures). I realised that I had landed up with a "dead fish", but what the heck, her pretty & innocent face / cuteness / excellent young body had made me rock hard, I put on the CD and I pounded her for the next 15 minutes before I came with a shudder. She, on the other hand, did not display any kind of emotion / panting / excitement / arousal / enjoyment! But hey, I did manage to score with a PYT, and so I did not have any complaint about her "in-activity"!
Overall. 7/10 (because of her body and looks)
Body. 7/10
BJ. Not allowed.
FJ. 5/10.
Attitude. 5/10.
Enjoyed my trip to Siem Reap and loved tasting the local delicacies for very low price by western standards! Would love to plan a bachelors trip to this country!
I went to Siem Reap for a sporting event in March.
And I had my own GF, so there was no incentive to go looking for some extra activities.
However, several of my associates went looking for chicken farms, and visited 3. It seems that they each managed to find a woman of their liking. Just ask the tuk tuk driver for the chicken farm.
On a couple of evenings, when I was walking alone, I was approached by pimps, who offered girls for $70 for long time, all night. I did not take them up, so I did not get to check out the girls.
I stayed at the Apsara Centrepole hotel, which is a stones throw from Pub street. It is not expensive, new, everything works, swimming pool, helpful staff. We only ate breakfast there, which was pretty simple, but it was cooked OK, and we ate in the front patio, which is a very pleasant environment.
Gangles
There were 4 of them, dressed all fine and in high heels. The busy food areas near Pub street. You'll see them at night. One of them struck up a conversation with me and asked if she could join me for dinner. Khmer girls are usually not so forward in public. I had a bad vibe about these "girls" because I heard stories. I have a high standard for looking at girls, and she was definitely an 8 (which is pretty high) , and her boobs looked real to me. But I went with my gut and said no. Man, she was pushy and kept following me. Another bad sign. When I got in a nearby tuktuk, the driver told me that was a man.
Always listen to your gut.
Thanks to all the previous reports that always help get things started.
DAY 1.
I happened to arrive during their New Year and the place was packed. The first night I tried Mickey Bar and there wasn't much talent at all, mostly 5's. I chatted with two of them but nothing much worthwhile so I left. Found a friendly tuk tuk driver and figured I would see what places he knew. The first stop seemed pretty decent and had a fishbowl with about 5 available. I talked to the man in charge who said they were Vietnamese and the price was $60, for everything including a massage. I said 'no way', too expensive and my tuk tuk driver jumped in to helped speaking Cambo. The guy said OK, $50 plus tip for him. I just laughed and said only tip IF the girl is good. After dealing with the extreme heat all day, the crowds, lots of hassle with my hotel, the slim pickings earlier in the night, etc, I really didn't care about $10. $20. It was Holiday and many massage places had few workers, and so did these places. So I agreed and picked a really cute girl, very slim, long brown hair, low 20's, I'the say a solid 8+ with a B cup. We headed upstairs to a very basic room, no shower or toilet, air con worked a bit and then stripped down and she proceeded to give me a back massage. It was the kind anyone could give without any real training. After about 10 mins. She started that 2 handed 'chop chop' clapping thing they do when they're usually done with the massage, and she actually hit me in the kidney really hard. OUCH! OK, stop with the fake massage! I turned over and she was a little more gentle, but not really too interested and not very sexually playful. Still I was able to get aroused enough. She didn't speak English so I made the motion for a BJ and she said NO. I said TIP, but she said NO. Just as reported. She put the rubber on me and I pulled he on top, but since she was a petite Asian and I'm a decent sized Westerner there was the usual problem with size fitting in her. So now she got the OUCH right back at her! I don't know why they don't have the basic tools of the trade, like KY lotion. Finally I got in and she rode me cowgirl style then I flipped her on her back and started with missionary but now I was only drilling her even deeper, so here came more OOW's, AAW's, OOWIE's. I tried to finish up quickly but after about 5 mins it started getting hot due to the poor 'air con' and she was drying up from no lube and not enjoying her line of work. That was it! I crossed the point of no return! So I just stopped. I tried for the BJ again, but NO. I signaled for a HJ, but no lotion or oil. Forget it, let's go. She said TIP, and I had a BIG NO for that. Even funnier was when I got downstairs the manager was waiting for his $5 tip and I had an even BIGGER NO for him, telling him that the girl was no good. My tuk tuk driver was waiting for me, anxious to hear my report, and I told him the girl was not good. He asked me what I wanted to do and I asked if we can try a different place. He happily agreed.
We headed a few streets away from town, down a dirt road where I saw a sign that said KTV, and as we approached I saw a few people sitting outside. Before them, in the parking lot, was a cute girl on the phone who said 'pick me', but I later found out she was joking as she was headed off to party with her friends and wasn't working. So we headed to the people seated outside and the tuk tuk driver talked to the manager and told him what I was interested in. The answer back was that there were only 3 girls available. Basically my choices were small, medium, or large. So that automatically narrowed it down to 2 since I'm not into buffalo, I already had trouble trying to fit into that slim one earlier, so I had no choice except to pick the medium sized Cambodian, who was barely a 7. My driver instructed me earlier that the best deal, since it was only $10 more, was to take her back to my hotel. So that's what I did. She liked my room, her Samsung phone, the TV show that was on, etc. WOW, I was starting to see a pattern with these local girls, not like in Thailand where they take their job seriously. I was getting tired so I told her SHOWER, which we did. Fast Forward: We went to bed, I started caressing her to warm things up, no English so I signaled for BJ, she said NO, I said AWE how about TIP, she said NO. You know the rest!
TO BE CONTINUED
The lane 2 girls will try to hook you in to "courting" them, they even have the outcall system set up but no hanky panky over HE they say. I will pass on getting fleeced going on hope full "dates"."Only me do it here, no other, I only work here one month" and other sweet BG talk. One of them was very hot though.
Lane 3 is a certified chickenfarm. I walked back from eating at the night market today around 22:30 and the entire street was filled with khmers outside the place. One old guy said "no, bad!" when I tried looking inside from the far side of the road so I think it might be wise to stay clear for a few days. Some shit was clearly going down.
I explored miles of dark streets but there isn't much due west. Perhaps more northwest but you can only walk so far in a day.
The best eye candy is the Chinese ancestry SYT tourists. For them I would do the insane salary man thing and make it rain.
Siem Reap is a very touristy town (if I were being extreme, a tourist trap, compared to the rest of Cambodia). The most striking evidence of this is how neat and clean the city is compared to others in the country. Most people come here for the Temples and to my surprise, some just fly in for that and leave, without seeing anywhere else.
My experience: I stayed 2 nights and got the hell out, so I likely missed some things, though I don't regret not having stayed longer.
I stayed at the Alliance hotel which is girl friendly.
So, what does it have to offer? Less, I would say, but still something. The going rates here are higher, as one would expect, for Khmer and barang alike.
After looking around aimlessly along "Pub Street", I asked a Tuktuk driver who promptly drove me to the outskirts of town, to the two long, crossing streets of "beer gardens" which mostly serve Khmer. Outside of each stood a number of women. I walked in to a few, got a beer, smoked, called a few over, none caught my eye, none spoke very much English. The clientele was exclusively Khmer which made me feel a bit out of place. One girl (Vietnamese of course, those scammers), when asked, quoted me 60 dollars, which I promptly rejected, paid the bill, left. About to leave back to the hotel, I bumped into a Belgian who I asked about the scene, and told me about a place called "Mickey's" which he was going to. I called a tuktuk and followed him there.
The place to go in Siem Reap to my mind is here: #27 Sivatha Street a bar known as Mikey's (but you have to pronounce it "Mickey's" for the Tuktuks to know where you're talking about. Basically a bar with lots of girls, though they're all freelancers and none work for the bar. No lady drinks, all willing to leave with you, all quite friendly, and the drinks are well priced. I liked it, had fun and suggest travellers come here. Oh and it's open 24/7.
[QUOTE=Lanthano;1571003]The place to go in Siem Reap to my mind is here: #27 Sivatha Street a bar known as Mikey's (but you have to pronounce it "Mickey's" for the Tuktuks to know where you're talking about. Basically a bar with lots of girls, though they're all freelancers and none work for the bar. No lady drinks, all willing to leave with you, all quite friendly, and the drinks are well priced. I liked it, had fun and suggest travellers come here. Oh and it's open 24/7.[/QUOTE]Wow, Mickey's seems to be the Place, but what are the going rates with these freelancers? I fly in from Don Mueang in early July on a one way ticket looking around for some Town to settle down in Cambodia.
[QUOTE=CockTeased;1572071]Wow, Mickey's seems to be the Place, but what are the going rates with these freelancers? I fly in from Don Mueang in early July on a one way ticket looking around for some Town to settle down in Cambodia.[/QUOTE]Most often $20/25 for ST, and can bargai $30 fpr the night.
WARNING...Do not turn the TV on. They will be lost in their little world and won't even be aware you are shagging them!
I have never in my life been pushed so hard by girls looking for money for sex.
Be warned. If you come here you will need to be prepared or they will win.
If you want to have fun and try things you have never done before Siem Reap might be the place.
I will share 3 experiences.
1. After a night out I was walking back to my hotel and passed 3 girls on bikes and one dude. Two of the girls looked like ladyboys and the other might have been. They wanted to know if I wanted company. I said yes after getting their initial price of (I think $30 for an hour) down to $30 for 2 hours. I picked the best looking but she insisted I hire two of them. I refused. I was happy with her if she was female but I would need to check out the bits before money changed hands. We wnet into the hotel. $12 a night. Guests no problem. She asked me to have a shower. I said OK and asked her to come with me after taking off my shorts with all my money in them. She said NO I"M SHY. I said GET OUT. I suspect she was about to empty my pockets and run while I was in the shower. She started calling someone and said give me $5. I said. Get out of my room now or I'll call the police. She kept calling and asking for $5. I just raised my voice into a shout and told her to GEt out now. Haha. She left. No tip. And me and my money were safe.
Ill post no. 2 on a second post because I lost a post earlier. Annoying.
No. 2.
There is a strip of massage shops near one of the many night markets. They have seats and those little fish outside. The are all legitimate if you stay outside. But they will grab males and say Air conditioned room. This means private room. This means the girls want a tip. Their asking price is $25 or more and they will take off their top and you can touch. But you can get it for $7. They will all agree to $7 but they will spend the entire massage asking for money if you do not agree. I kicked on out after 20 minutes of her asking. It was a double massage. She wanted $25 for each of them. I said I had already had a happy ending so I didn't need another. She insisted I have another one. She went from 25 each to 20 each to 15 each to 10 each over 25 minutes of me saying no. It was such a shit massage. It was like I was dealing with one of those phone sales people who call you up. IN the end I said to her If you say one more word I will kick you out. She spoke again and I said haha get out. And she was shocked so once again I just raised my voice Get out. I don't want you in here. I was an idiot then and gave the other girl who had said virtually nothing the $25 even though $7 was plenty. The same thing happened several times over the next few days. They all go on and on for money. The walls in these places are very thin and the same thing was happening in the next room. The man only wanted a massage because he was going home to a gf. But they insisted. Starting at 35 and dropping to $10 or whatever over 30 minutes. It is constant arguing. Ever massage here is done with 2 girls. They are masters at upselling. One girl will grab you on the street and bring you in and her friend will then we with her and they will ask if you want a double. The price is $3 per 30 minutes plus a tip of maybe $7 for whatever you can get for the girl. The tip is the same if you pay $5 for an hour massge instead. Price per girl.
No. 3
The massages here are so cheap. Some of the girls will have sex in there but you need to take your own protection.
I am going back to SR soon but this time I will be more prepared. The massages are cheap. The sex is cheap. It's a hot place.
I have hairy legs and all the massaging meant the hairs were being constantly pulled - 3 hours or more a hair of hair pulling hurts. IN the end I had to tell them not to touch my legs and that ruined what was going to be a pretty big achievement.
It was about 10 pm. I was walking back to my hotel from the market when one of the girls outside the massage shop grabbed me. I went in with the cutest girl I had seen all night but her massage was shit and she did not let me touch. She was so boring I told her to leave and get me another girl. Things are so cheap here that you can do things like that. She owed me $2 change which I never saw though.
Another girl came with the boss to see what was wrong. I said (lying on my back naked as they watched) that I just wanted TWO new girls. SHe got two and then I say I'll have 5. By this time they were all laughing at my stupidity. Five girls. Me naked on my back 5 girls. Then I said get more. Once girl left and came back with 3 more. SO there were 5. But OMG my hairs on my legs were hurting so I had to tell them to be gentle. Hardly any of them spoke English but it was fun and they had fun. I can't remember why but I didn't even have a happy ending. Just touching down there with many hands.
I told them I would go back the next night and have 10 girls but my legs hurt too much.
I hate my hairy legs now. So I'm going to shave them a bit and return in August.
8 girls was fun but its not as great as you would expect. I just want 10 because it sounds like a good number. 10 girls would cost you $3 each for 30 minutes or $5 each for an hour. Plus a tip of maybe $3 each if there is no happy ending or a bit more if there is. They will do you a deal when they are quiet and you come in and act the fool like me.
I was in a taxi on the way back from one of the temples.
If you go to the temples you will be approached by young children selling postcards and stuff. I wish I wanted this stuff but I never do. I did buy a fan because it was so stinking hot.
But I always feel sorry for people and leave a trail of money behind me wherever I go. Maybe it's a bad thing because it promotes bad behaviour.
But it was hot and one girl said do I want a drink and I said YES. She took me to her mother's? Stall and I said Do you want a drink and she said Yes. And there were 3 or 4 other children still trying to sell me postcards and I asked them if they wanted drinks and they all said Yes. Then more kinds came. OMG. They came from no where. And I said ok. You can all have drinks. Greedy scumbag adults were asking if thye could have drinks too. I set a height limit. Anyone over my shoulder could not get a free drink. I think 30 kids got drinks because it cost me $30 and we drove off with 20 or so waving kids behind my tuk tuk. Then I thought lets go back. So the tuk tuk driver turned around and we wnet back to the stall. I said to the girl I want to buy all your drinks and then all her bags of chips. It was a frenzy. Kids from everwhere. Free food and drinks. Funny.
But then we were driving home and he knew I had cash (I didn't have any left at this stage) and he asked if I wanted a girl. He called her and drove me to see her. Ohhhh. Melting heart. Small, thin, short tight dress, makeup. Perfection. No way could you say no. He said we will come back and get her in the evening because she is working. I said NO way. I need her now. She had to walk back into work and say she was ill. She came with me. Could not speak one word of English.
Wanted $70 for 6 pm -11 am. She didn't want to leave. I had to suggest she go so I could get out of bed and do stuff.
I took her to the fanciest restaurant in town - 5 star hotel restaurant. And we sat opposite each other not being able to speak a word. Even the stupid menu was in English and I had to ask the waitress to read it to her. She must have wondered why I was not explaining what was on the meal to my dinner partner. It was quite funny. The waitress had to stand with us and translate so we could talk. And my girl in the sexy tight dress had to tell the waitress we had just met. OMG. What did she think.
This girl had an extra condom in her purse so she was not innocent. She was aged 20 and cute. I'm mad so I gave her $120 in the end.
I'm going back to SR soon but I don't know if I will be able to find this girl. If you find her you are lucky.
[QUOTE=Sidtip;1576744]I took her to the fanciest restaurant in town - 5 star hotel restaurant. And we sat opposite each other not being able to speak a word. Even the stupid menu was in English and I had to ask the waitress to read it to her. She must have wondered why I was not explaining what was on the meal to my dinner partner. It was quite funny. The waitress had to stand with us and translate so we could talk.[/QUOTE]This reminds of a very pretty young Cambodian, not a WG, a waitress in PP at the 51 street area. She spoke about one word of English. I was sitting close to where the security for the entertainment area was sitting. She called for someone in their language. I thought I was in trouble. This security guy comes along and sits close to where I and the girl was sitting. He spoke to me in English. Relief. He said that I was interested in her sister and I said yes, a little bit worried. He was OK with that. So, for a whole time, he was the translator between me and his sister. Later after her shift, I took her to Pontoon. She wanted to go to the English school and I left enough money for some classes. Don't know if she did and she wanted to marry. She being 22 years young and me twice her age, I did not think it was a great idea even though she was very pleasant and attractive.
[QUOTE=LifeIsABeach;1576933]This reminds of a very pretty young Cambodian, not a WG, a waitress in PP at the 51 street area. She spoke about one word of English. I was sitting close to where the security for the entertainment area was sitting. She called for someone in their language. I thought I was in trouble. This security guy comes along and sits close to where I and the girl was sitting. He spoke to me in English. Relief. He said that I was interested in her sister and I said yes, a little bit worried. He was OK with that. So, for a whole time, he was the translator between me and his sister. Later after her shift, I took her to Pontoon. She wanted to go to the English school and I left enough money for some classes. Don't know if she did and she wanted to marry. She being 22 years young and me twice her age, I did not think it was a great idea even though she was very pleasant and attractive.[/QUOTE]It's really nice when things like this happen. A lot of the guys on this site are quite mean to the girls. They do it for money, they don't do it because they enjoy it. But sometimes it's fun if you are nice to the girl and you can have some crazy experiences. I remember I met a girl in a massage shop in Thailand. I was crazy about her. Or maybe I'm just crazy. But we went out for lunch and when it was time to say goodbye it was like a scene in a movie. I was in the back of a tuk tuk driving away as she waved at me. I felt shit but it was an experience that moved me. I fall for them all and want to save them all. I was going to Bangkok the next day so I called her and flew her up with me and booked her a room in the same hotel. She was happy because she could see family after I left. We had just one extra day together because of this, but it was fun. Then I had to fly home. A few weeks later I was going to Japan so I flew her out there with me. Her first overseas trip. But when I saw her again the magic was gone and she was a burden. I pretended I had to fly home early, changed her ticket home and sent her back after a couple of days. Then I was free to try every other new girl in town and fall in love again.
It's terribly stupid to pay 120 dollar. You are doing bad business for other. EVERY girl in SR will go for 30 dollar ST. LT 40 dollar and EVERY girl will be VERY happy. And SR is still expensive for Cambodia. Please don't go back there unless you learn to handle the business and stop ruining it for other.
[QUOTE=GentleBright;1577385]It's terribly stupid to pay 120 dollar. You are doing bad business for other. EVERY girl in SR will go for 30 dollar ST. LT 40 dollar and EVERY girl will be VERY happy. And SR is still expensive for Cambodia. Please don't go back there unless you learn to handle the business and stop ruining it for other.[/QUOTE]I'm not sure what to think about your comment. We all like a good deal. No doubt about that. But by paying the minimum for sex and protesting when someone pays well, what are you actually saying. Are you saying that these poor girls who lower themselves to being with (often) fat disgusting old western men (not me! Do not deserve to get good money? Especially in Asia where a lot of the local males are totally disrespectful to females and have terrible hygiene and do not clean themselves after doing what we politely call No. 2's. Yes, I pay more than necessary sometimes, but I also paid $130+ for the meal. IS she worth less than a meal? How degrading can you be? I think sometimes we forget about the girls and I know I have been guilty of what is really a disgusting attitude towards these girls. I would prefer to give this girl a bit too much and make her life a bit happier. I would prefer that she did not have to work again for a few days or maybe weeks.
I remember what it felt like to get some extra cash when I was poor. It made me happy. I liked that feeling and I love giving it to others. This is not all about us. Think about the girls. They give us a lot and make us happy. Sure, if they cheat you on time or if they do a bad job, keep the payments as low as possible. But if they are warm and lovely and make you smile and feel good then treat them like a princess and do what you can for them.
And please don't tell me where I can and can't go. I am flying back there soon and will hopefully find the same girl or someone better. I'll be tough in the massage shops where the girls are ruthless and generous with anyone who makes me feel special.
[QUOTE=GentleBright;1577385]It's terribly stupid to pay 120 dollar. You are doing bad business for other. EVERY girl in SR will go for 30 dollar ST. LT 40 dollar and EVERY girl will be VERY happy. And SR is still expensive for Cambodia. Please don't go back there unless you learn to handle the business and stop ruining it for other.[/QUOTE]I'm not sure what to think about your comment. We all like a good deal. No doubt about that. But by paying the minimum for sex and protesting when someone pays well, what are you actually saying. Are you saying that these poor girls who lower themselves to being with (often) fat disgusting old western men (not me! Do not deserve to get good money? Especially in Asia where a lot of the local males are totally disrespectful to females and have terrible hygiene and do not clean themselves after doing what we politely call No. 2's. Yes, I pay more than necessary sometimes, but I also paid $130+ for the meal. IS she worth less than a meal? How degrading can you be? I think sometimes we forget about the girls and I know I have been guilty of what is really a disgusting attitude towards these girls. I would prefer to give this girl a bit too much and make her life a bit happier. I would prefer that she did not have to work again for a few days or maybe weeks.
I remember what it felt like to get some extra cash when I was poor. It made me happy. I liked that feeling and I love giving it to others. This is not all about us. Think about the girls. They give us a lot and make us happy. Sure, if they cheat you on time or if they do a bad job, keep the payments as low as possible. But if they are warm and lovely and make you smile and feel good then treat them like a princess and do what you can for them.
And please don't tell me where I can and can't go. I am flying back there soon and will hopefully find the same girl or someone better. I'll be tough in the massage shops where the girls are ruthless and generous with anyone who makes me feel special.
What are you thinking Sidtip?? I am going to Cambodia for 6 weeks on 6/21. I work for a school in Canada and have the summer off. I plan to be in in Siem Reap for a few days during my trip. I understand your liberal empathy toward the Khmer girls, however do you know / or realize what men like you are causing to the rest of us? You are raising prices and taking girls off the market, plain and simple! By jacking up prices and paying stupid amounts of $ you are creating an inflated base and expectation of the girls. Do you know that most people in Cambodia survive on $1 a day? You stated that you hoped that a girl might not work for a few days because you payed her 4 times the going rate. That screws all the other guys including me of a possible good provider on that day.
I have questions? Do you go to a clothing store and see a pair of pants for $20 and then go to the cashier and say I think these pants are worth $60 therefore I will pay $60.00 ?Do you go to a fast food Rest. And order a $5. 00 lunch and after eating the lunch bring the cashier $10.00 stating that the meal was really so good? This is business. Everything in this world has a price. Keep this in mind! If you want to spread the wealth invite us (middle-class) guys to hunt together, Thanks.
Stdtip: glad you enjoyed your stay. Nice to see a generous monger pay for an enjoyable time!
[QUOTE=KWKids;1577915]What are you thinking Sidtip?? I am going to Cambodia for 6 weeks on 6/21. I work for a school in Canada and have the summer off. I plan to be in in Siem Reap for a few days during my trip. I understand your liberal empathy toward the Khmer girls, however do you know / or realize what men like you are causing to the rest of us? You are raising prices and taking girls off the market, plain and simple! By jacking up prices and paying stupid amounts of $ you are creating an inflated base and expectation of the girls. Do you know that most people in Cambodia survive on $1 a day? You stated that you hoped that a girl might not work for a few days because you payed her 4 times the going rate. That screws all the other guys including me of a possible good provider on that day.
I have questions? Do you go to a clothing store and see a pair of pants for $20 and then go to the cashier and say I think these pants are worth $60 therefore I will pay $60.00 ?Do you go to a fast food Rest. And order a $5. 00 lunch and after eating the lunch bring the cashier $10.00 stating that the meal was really so good? This is business. Everything in this world has a price. Keep this in mind! If you want to spread the wealth invite us (middle-class) guys to hunt together, Thanks.[/QUOTE]I have heard this so many times that one monger can change the market place. I guess you are not an economics teacher! The man took one girl out and treated her to a date. And it was worth it to him. None of our business!
In order to change the market place mongers or working girls would have to form a union! I doubt this would ever happen.
[QUOTE=GentleBright;1577385]It's terribly stupid to pay 120 dollar. You are doing bad business for other. EVERY girl in SR will go for 30 dollar ST. LT 40 dollar and EVERY girl will be VERY happy. And SR is still expensive for Cambodia. Please don't go back there unless you learn to handle the business and stop ruining it for other.[/QUOTE]It seems CC thru out the ages are always a dollar short and always blaming it on the "overpayer".
I do not attempt to know how much time you have spent in Ccambodia. However from my knowledge the girls do have a so-called oninion, They talk! If one idiot tourist pays too much they all know! Do you overpay for everything, clothes, food, etc,. I have a sister for you!
I will be in PP on 6/20, and going to Siem Riemp 5-7 days later.
[QUOTE=KWKids;1577950]I do not attempt to know how much time you have spent in Ccambodia. However from my knowledge the girls do have a so-called oninion, They talk! If one idiot tourist pays too much they all know! Do you overpay for everything, clothes, food, etc,. I have a sister for you![/QUOTE]Yes, I am sure after they did their union "talk" the price of poon went right up! You sir can form your own union and not buy, there by forcing the price to drop!
[QUOTE=KWKids;1577952]I will be in PP on 6/20, and going to Siem Riemp 5-7 days later.[/QUOTE]Remember the $120 man ruin the market and the girls are talking.
[QUOTE=KWKids;1577950]I do not attempt to know how much time you have spent in Ccambodia. However from my knowledge the girls do have a so-called oninion, They talk! If one idiot tourist pays too much they all know! Do you overpay for everything, clothes, food, etc,. I have a sister for you![/QUOTE]I pay $5 for it in Cambodia. Doesn't matter if I can cheap charlie it to $4. 05. About your sister. Please post a picture and price.
[QUOTE=KWKids;1577915]What are you thinking Sidtip?? I am going to Cambodia for 6 weeks on 6/21. I work for a school in Canada and have the summer off. I plan to be in in Siem Reap for a few days during my trip. I understand your liberal empathy toward the Khmer girls, however do you know / or realize what men like you are causing to the rest of us? You are raising prices and taking girls off the market, plain and simple! By jacking up prices and paying stupid amounts of $ you are creating an inflated base and expectation of the girls. Do you know that most people in Cambodia survive on $1 a day? You stated that you hoped that a girl might not work for a few days because you payed her 4 times the going rate. That screws all the other guys including me of a possible good provider on that day.
I have questions? Do you go to a clothing store and see a pair of pants for $20 and then go to the cashier and say I think these pants are worth $60 therefore I will pay $60.00 ?Do you go to a fast food Rest. And order a $5. 00 lunch and after eating the lunch bring the cashier $10.00 stating that the meal was really so good? This is business. Everything in this world has a price. Keep this in mind! If you want to spread the wealth invite us (middle-class) guys to hunt together, Thanks.[/QUOTE]To be honest I care more about the feelings of this girl than I care about your cheap little willy. She is selling her body. Imagine having to sleep with a fat wrinkly old granny. If the going price was $30 a session maybe you would do it if it was the only way you could feed your kid or support your mum, but imagine if one of your customers gave you twice the price and you could buy your mum or kid or whatever a treat. I would rather make this girl happy than think about the cheap dude who might come and offer the girl the lowest price he can to satisfy his cheap urges.
And if we get to the economics of it all. The good looking girls will get the big tips. The ugly ones won't. This means the ugly ones will all still be cheap and you will always be able to afford them.
And in answer to you question, if a waitress makes me happy I will tip her.
I booked my return flight and will be back in August so get there quickly before I cause the prices to increase again.
My opinion is not that important but from what I saw SR is 10 x more fun that PP. In fact if I had my time over I would not even have visited PP. As far as cities go, I don't think it has anything to offer anyone other than a visit to the killing fields. It is one of the most unremarkable cities I have ever been to. If you are planning a trip aim to spend a lot more time in SR than PP. As I said, I'm going back to Cambodia but only to SR for the 10-girl massage that I think I need to try just so I can say that I have done it. This is something even the cheap dudes can do - $3 per girl for 30 minutes plus a tip of $3-7 per girl to have 10 topless girls playing with your little brother and all your other bits all at once while you are lathered in oil. The oil actually costs extra.
[QUOTE=Dg8787;1577928]In order to change the market place mongers or working girls would have to form a union! I doubt this would ever happen.[/QUOTE]Girls do form unofficial unions in many places I have been to including Cambodia. They talk and band together, be it in a bar, club or elsewhere. I have seen it also in Morocco in bars / clubs that Saudis go to and they pay at least 5-10 times the going rate plus champagne and food. I was in this club full of Saudis wining and dining the girls. I really thought I would be going home alone as the girls would not budge waiting for the Saudis. A couple said to wait till 5.00AM and then will consider. I talked to a few girls at the bars, laughing and joking. Along came a belle, very pretty woman who was with the Saudis to talk to her friends close to me. We started talking and she thought I was a nice guy and I wasted no time in asking her price. Her price was the Saudi price, about 5 times higher than the going rate. I told her it was too much for me and kept talking. She than asked what I could pay. Told her the going rate and she was stunned. She said no way. I kept talking with her and her friends and eventually she agreed without me asking again. I took home the most beautiful woman in the club at my price and we had an enjoyable night. These girls have their own cars from the Saudi money. Just be nice and respectful and good things will happen.
Enough said. Tipping (10-25%) for good service is acceptable. Overpaying by 3 or 4 times is not. We should work together.
[QUOTE=KWKids;1578099]Enough said. Tipping (10-25%) for good service is acceptable. Overpaying by 3 or 4 times is not. We should work together.[/QUOTE]What is this? All the guys get in the corner and do some price fixing? No one tells me what to pay or how much to tip, whether it is high or low. I pay or tip accordingly to the value I receive. One exception is if someone else is paying for my ride.
In what kind of world are you living?
120 dollar is a lot of money in their eyes. Your problem is that you compare to your western standards. 120 dollar is a month salary in Cambodia. You like to spend 120 dollar for a meal? You are a rich decadent pig in their eyes. For 1 dollar, you can eat very well for local standards. I ate in the fanciest restaurant in SR for 45 dollar, me and my girl.
Even then, for 40 dollar, you can have a ST in Amsterdam with a stunner.
Who are you to decide if they are happy or not with 30 dollar? Who are you to decide for them that they are feeling bad for that price. If the price is set at that price, it means it is worth that price for them. Otherwise they would ask more. That's why tourist like you are destroying their natural expectations. We call it spoiling. And that makes you the ego-tripper, not me, I can imagine how good you must feel being the white knight saving the hooker. For one night.
You need to learn more about economy my friend.
Last year in October, I was in Siem Reap and built a good rapport with one of my tuk tuk drivers. I asked him where he went when he wanted to have fun and get a girl. Now keep in mind I can speak passable Khmer. He told me that most Cambodians went to KTV's or karaoke bars. I asked him to give me a tour of the town and we drove around quite a bit as he was showing me where tourist went, and where the locals went. Now don't bother asking me where I went, cause we went in a residential area and from the outside, you'the never guess it was a Karaoke bar. Here is what I got, it was 3 hours of the Karaoke, 30 beers, food, like 3 plates of beef sticks, rice and some sides, 2 girls to keep us entertained all for $40 US dollars. The room was very spacious, you had your own restroom as well. I think that was a pretty good deal. Now, I actually invited my driver to join me, the guy even scrutinized the bill to make sure I wasn't over charged. We didn't finish all 30 beers and they actually will save them for your return or you can take them home. Since I was leaving Siem Reap the next day, I told my driver he could have the rest. He was very appreciative.
Now as for the girls, I didn't get to pick who joined us, my driver told them to bring us some young ones and they did. They weren't stunners but they had a great attitude, let my hands roam and I had a great time. If you wanted to take a girl back to your hotel, it wasn't guaranteed. You had to negotiate with the girl yourself. I decided not to take mine out as I had planned to visit some other areas that night. I only have a picture of what the inside looks like. I also included a picture of the road we took to get there.
[QUOTE=GentleBright;1580944]In what kind of world are you living?
120 dollar is a lot of money in their eyes. Your problem is that you compare to your western standards. 120 dollar is a month salary in Cambodia. You like to spend 120 dollar for a meal? You are a rich decadent pig in their eyes. For 1 dollar, you can eat very well for local standards. I ate in the fanciest restaurant in SR for 45 dollar, me and my girl.
Even then, for 40 dollar, you can have a ST in Amsterdam with a stunner.
Who are you to decide if they are happy or not with 30 dollar? Who are you to decide for them that they are feeling bad for that price. If the price is set at that price, it means it is worth that price for them. Otherwise they would ask more. That's why tourist like you are destroying their natural expectations. We call it spoiling. And that makes you the ego-tripper, not me, I can imagine how good you must feel being the white knight saving the hooker. For one night.
You need to learn more about economy my friend.[/QUOTE]Who am I to decide if the are or are not happy with $30? OMG. Who do you think you are telling others how much they are allowed to pay a girl. There are two types of people on this site. There are the people who try to get it as cheaply as possible and treat the girls like shit. And there are others who appreciate how some of the girls make us feel. We like to show our appreciation with money. A smile from you and your fellow tight arses as a tip does not put food on the table.
Are you saying the wages a shop assistant gets should be the same as the wages a prostitute should get ($120 a month salary you quote). These girls are having sex with (often) fat, smelly, ugly, old, dirty men for money. How disgusting is this? They deserve everything we give them. Especially the nice ones who make us feel special. The scammers and pushy ones who rip us off do not get tips like the ones I give because their service is shit. But if someone takes me to heaven I will reward them.
I'll tell you a story that you may not believe, but it's true. I am not good looking and I do not have a great body. I am not smart and when this event happened I did not have much money. I met an older woman. Maybe 48 when I was about 32 - I have blanked it out because the whole episode was disgusting. We met over lunch for the first time because I needed to get some information from this woman. We (she) drank a lot and got frisky, touching my leg and groin. She had organised a friend to call her midway through the lunch date in case it was boring. In the end the friend came in and joined us and the drinking continued into the evening. When the friend went to the bathroom the woman tried to kiss me on the mouth. Fucking disgusting old hag. I told her she could touch me but no kissing (haha) and she said she wanted it all. She drove me back to work (drunk) and gave me a headjob in the car. It felt good but I was disgusted because she was so fucking old. But it's hard to stop wandering hands and a zip being undone. And it would also offend the other person and I needed to be friends for the work thing we were discussing. This whole situation was revolting me. Over the next few months she chased me and wanted to live together and leave her bf etc etc. I liked her as a fun friend. She introduced me to a fun circle of people. She bought me holidays and gave me gifts. I could have had anything. I refused to have sex until she suggested a three some. I agreed then. The girl she brought was young and nice, but it was the most awkward situation. The young girl would suck me and make me hard then the old woman would take over and I would go soft in her mouth. The young girl got me hard and I entered the old woman and went soft. The young girl was playing with my cock while I was in the old woman trying to keep me hard. It was fucking disgusting.
Anyway, the reason I am telling you this disgusting story is that I know how hard it is to have sex with someone you do not find attractive. And these poor girls that you are talking about do it because they (in some cases) have very few other choices.
I know what it is like to be poor. I had another wealthy older girlfriend. Who I kind of liked having sex with. I was broke at the time. Zero in the bank because of something else I did. She used to pay for all our meals. She would give me the cash to pay the waiter and tell me to leave the change with them - $20 tip on a $30 meal. I often kept the $20 and left a few dollars because I needed the money. A small amount of money can make a big difference to some people.
I'll tell you another story. I know you won't believe this one (this is cathartic telling you this stuff) I'll tell it on the next post in case I lose all this.
[QUOTE=GentleBright;1580944]In what kind of world are you living?
120 dollar is a lot of money in their eyes. Your problem is that you compare to your western standards. 120 dollar is a month salary in Cambodia. You like to spend 120 dollar for a meal? You are a rich decadent pig in their eyes. For 1 dollar, you can eat very well for local standards. I ate in the fanciest restaurant in SR for 45 dollar, me and my girl.
Even then, for 40 dollar, you can have a ST in Amsterdam with a stunner.
Who are you to decide if they are happy or not with 30 dollar? Who are you to decide for them that they are feeling bad for that price. If the price is set at that price, it means it is worth that price for them. Otherwise they would ask more. That's why tourist like you are destroying their natural expectations. We call it spoiling. And that makes you the ego-tripper, not me, I can imagine how good you must feel being the white knight saving the hooker. For one night.
You need to learn more about economy my friend.[/QUOTE]You say that you spent $45 on a meal in the best restaurant. We went to the Hyatt and it cost from memory $130. Only one bottle of wine, one beer and mineral water. Entrée and main meal. Which place did you do to that was better but cheaper.
The Hyatt. For those who are interested. Has these fancy outside (romantic if its dark and your girl is willing to be adventurous) tables with swinging couches. We went inside because it was SO hot but I would have preferred an outside session. Check it out.
[QUOTE=GentleBright;1580944]In what kind of world are you living?
We call it spoiling. And that makes you the ego-tripper, not me, I can imagine how good you must feel being the white knight saving the hooker. For one night.
You need to learn more about economy my friend.[/QUOTE]This is a story you won't believe because you and I live in different worlds.
In my home country (western country) I visited a happy ending massage place and fell for this tiny (20) girl. So cute and sweet. I booked her for an hour or two every day because she was moving interstate in a week or so because there was a cheaper university interstate. I asked her to stay and said I would pay the higher fees in our state. But of course she did not believe me. There is no way you will believe all this. I went to Tiffany's and bought the cheapest diamond bracelet I could find and gave it to her. She still did not believe me. I went to the bank and got out cash. I think it was $2000 (I was a bit sneaky here). I got it all in $10 notes so it looked like a lot. $2000 in 100's is not impressive. And I offered it to her to stay one extra week with me. I actually flicked each note towards her to make it look like a lot and it all landed on the floor as I was staying please stay. These were fun day. Her boss heard the screaming and came running in (female boss who also massaged and who I knew) and saw all the money on the floor. The girl didn't take the money and I left that day. She went interstate and I flew her back for another couple of sessions once she had registered at uni. And then I made her an offer. I had businesses back then, I offered to start a business in her name which we did. I said she would make maybe $40,000 in 6 months. I'm only telling you all this because so much on this site is so boring. We started the business and within 2 months the money was starting to come in. We each made about $450,000 over the next 18 months. It's not important if you believe me. She was a virgin. She was 20. She only did happy endings. I was her first time. She cried. She said no for many weeks (maybe months) before it happened. This girl never massaged again. She didn't need to.
We travelled overseas as part of the business. I took her into Louis Vuitton in Bond St and the shop assistants ignored her. She was only 20 and very small and innocent. She was shy and lacked confidence. We are no longer together because (as we males do) I got tired of her. But I am still in contact sometimes. She is no longer a shy little girl. She has finished uni and has a job.
I stole this girl's first time and maybe I stole some of her innocence. I am a lot older than her. But I also saved her.
So GentleBright, pull your head in. It is possible to save these girls.
I have helped others, but no one else came close to making this much money. I was as shocked as she was at the success of that business.
[QUOTE=Sidtip;1581593]This is a story you won't believe because you and I life in different worlds.
In my home country (western country) I visited a happy ending massage place and fell for this tiny (20) girl. So cute and sweet. I booked her for an hour or two every day because she was moving interstate in a week or so because there was a cheaper university interstate. I asked her to stay and said I would pay the higher fees in our state. But of course she did not believe me. There is no way you will believe all this. I went to Tiffany's and bought the cheapest diamond bracelet I could find and gave it to her. She still did not believe me. I went to the bank and got out cash. I think it was $2000 (I was a bit sneaky here). I got it all in $10 notes so it looked like a lot. $2000 in 100's is not impressive. And I offered it to her to stay one extra week with me. I actually flicked each note towards her to make it look like a lot and it all landed on the floor as I was staying please stay. These were fun day. Her boss heard the screaming and came running in (female boss who also massaged and who I knew) and saw all the money on the floor. The girl didn't take the money and I left that day...[/QUOTE]OMG! Yes we are from different worlds. At least I am helping 4 poor girls for that same 120 dollar. Diamonds and Louis Vuitton will never save anybody. I feel pitty for people like you.
[QUOTE=GentleBright;1581935]OMG! Yes we are from different worlds. At least I am helping 4 poor girls for that same 120 dollar. Diamonds and Louis Vuitton will never save anybody. I feel pitty for people like you.[/QUOTE]Wasn't it you who told me to learn about economics. You pay the lowest prices you can and the girls continue their miserable lives, doomed to sucking smelly shrivelled cocks. I got one out of the scene.
And you are making the assumption that because I pay one person $120 I will not see others and pay them too. You need to be logical if you are going to argue this point.
It's all about having fun and feeling good. I love lying back and being serviced by a girl. If she does a bad job or if she cuts the time short then there is no reward for her. But if she goes above and beyond then I will give her extra. The $1 tip you might give is nice but an extra $50 is like WOW. It's like a westerner being given $2000. It's dramatic and it makes me feel good as well as the girl.
Prices will not change because I do this or if even a few of us do this. But even if prices do change I don't care. I care more about the girls than I care about people like you.
And seeing as you want me to study economics, why don't you spend a little bit of time on your history. Do you know what this country went through not so long ago? The west doomed this country to years of savagery. There is prostitution everywhere (thank god), but the economics of this poor country are where they are today because of us. I don't feel that we necessarily owe them anything, but they are beautiful people and I love throwing a bit of money around to help a couple of them out.
I was at one of the temples being followed by children trying to sell me postcards and stuff. I know it's supposed to be wrong buying stuff from these children because it encourages their parents to keep them out of school f=so that they can beg or sell. But I didn't need any of the stuff they were selling. One offered me a drink. I said yes. She asked me to follow her to her mum's stall outside the temple and I bought a drink. I asked this girl if she wanted one and she said yes. I then asked the other 3 kids who had been following us if they wanted drinks. All of a sudden we were surrounded by 10-15 kids all asking if they could have a drink. In the end I paid $35 for 35 drinks (I don't think there were 35 kids but the stallholder said they took 35 drinks. These little things can be shifty). The kids were happy and I had not supported keeping them in the begging scene. I had simply bought them a drink. Then I saw the bags of chips. Bags of bags of chips. I bought them all and the kids went mad trying to grab them. It was fun and the kids got something. If I had bought their postcards the parents would have got the money (to put food on the table, yes yes) but the kids had a little bit of fun and a story to tell about the mad western tourist who bought half of the products in the stall and gave it away. I had 20 kids yelling and waving as we drove off in our tuk tuk. It's a little memory that people who are tight with money will never experience.
It did cause a problem though. The tuk tuk driver assumed I had money and wanted a bigger tip.
[QUOTE=Sidtip;1581586]You say that you spent $45 on a meal in the best restaurant. We went to the Hyatt and it cost from memory $130. Only one bottle of wine, one beer and mineral water. Entre and main meal. Which place did you do to that was better but cheaper.
.[/QUOTE]Its so funny listening to guys boast about how much they spend and how they think their money is better than everyone elses. And that spending more makes them somehow better.
I'm happy that I have money having worked for it, but more happy that I have a responsible attitude to it, and don't need the ego trip of spending more than I need to, or telling everyone else how much I have.
Who knows whos real here and whos not,. Who knows whos telling truths or lies here. No one. So it doesn't matter.
Enjoy spending your money as you do. The girls won't remember you any better than the next punter.
We all have to live within our means or else pay the consequences. I personally know a couple of guys who flushed all their money down the toilet trying to buy some broad's love or prove something to themselves and now they are flat broke and alone. Assuming the OP is telling the truth more or less; what he does with his own money doesn't bother me in the least. I think what he did sounds a little silly, but that's just me and probably a lot of other board members agree. The bottom line, however, is that if he got a kick out of how he spent his money on a girl and he could afford what he did, then I say way to go, man. Do your own thing.
Personally if I had 20 or 30 million net in investment grade securities, stocks, and real estate, I'd be boning young would be Hollywood actresses in the USA and Thai and Indonesian FHM models (the ones with natural boobs) when I was in Asia. And I would probably throw in a few up and coming Brazilian models into the mix as well. In other words, if I had 20 or 30 million I wouldn't care what I spent on girls. I would go for the top quality in whatever watering hole I wandered into although I would make sure I knew what the going rate was for the top quality and I would never go more than say 10% above it. I would keep the girls as long as I wanted and take them wherever I wanted. Yeah, the money would flow, but I wouldn't spend a dime on drugs or sick buffalo and I think I would be real happy at least as far as punting was concerned.
But come to think of it, this is exactly what I am doing now, except I have to live within my means which means I can only give myself 2 months in Asia per year not spend full time here and I must content myself with the company of mostly sexy Go Go, oily, and soapy Thai girls and their counterparts in the PI, Indonesia, Cambodia, (and Macau for 5 days a year 555) and not superstars. Boo Hoo.
One thing for sure, I don't and I WOULDN'T GIVE MY HARD EARNED MONEY AWAY FOR FREE to any girl I met along the way no matter how wealthy I was or how sweet and beautiful she was. But that's just me.
[QUOTE=FreebieFan;1582281]Its so funny listening to guys boast about how much they spend and how they think their money is better than everyone elses. And that spending more makes them somehow better.
I'm happy that I have money having worked for it, but more happy that I have a responsible attitude to it, and don't need the ego trip of spending more than I need to, or telling everyone else how much I have.
Who knows whos real here and whos not,. Who knows whos telling truths or lies here. No one. So it doesn't matter.
Enjoy spending your money as you do. The girls won't remember you any better than the next punter.[/QUOTE]I assume you were not on the school debating team. You lack logic and rational argument. The conversation was not a boast about money. Someone made the statement that they went to the best restaurant. They were pulled up on that question.
It's a bit bemusing that a bunch of you can only talk about why I should not give the girls extra money. Who do you seriously think you are?[blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue] That's the downside of chatrooms and forums like this: they are giving people like you a voice when in the past NO ONE would ever have to listen you speak. So look at the heading and climb back into.
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[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;1582292]We all have to live within our means or else pay the consequences. I personally know a couple of guys who flushed all their money down the toilet trying to buy some broad's love or prove something to themselves and now they are flat broke and alone. Assuming the OP is telling the truth more or less; what he does with his own money doesn't bother me in the least. I think what he did sounds a little silly, but that's just me and probably a lot of other board members agree. The bottom line, however, is that if he got a kick out of how he spent his money on a girl and he could afford what he did, then I say way to go, man. Do your own thing.
Personally if I had 20 or 30 million net in investment quality securities, stocks, and real estate, I'd be boning would be Hollywood actresses in the USA and Thai and Indonesian FHM models (the ones with natural boobs) when I was in Asia..[/QUOTE]Exactly. Once you reach critical mass stage with money it becomes that you earn it faster than you can spend it. Money is shit. It's not as good as you think. I would be happier waking up with the same girl every morning (for 3 months then I would want a new one) and feeling the love. The reason many of us earn is so that we can do good things with our money. Once we have a house and car and the big tv, it's time to help others. I do it in a selfish way. I give it to people who make me feel good. But, yes, they only get it while I am getting the sex. When they go the money stops.
I'm leaving for Cambodia today, so I will be short and probably not on the site for a while. I did recently (Jan. '14) take a trip to the DR and did not leave a returning post due to it not being a great trip. I was disappointed and did not want to rehash it in a negative way on this site. I did get layed a lot but it seemed everyone was constantly trying to scam / hustle you including the ladies. Definitely no GFE's, which I prefer.
Although this will be my first trip to Cambodia, a good friend of mine has recently moved there and has filled me in on the ends and outs. He is going to show me around. He is well established in the Ex-pat community in PP. He dates both local girls and ex-pat ladies. From what he tells me there are a lot of girls in Siem Riep and PP that are looking for a BF and not $(non-pros). If you choose to pay he stated that the going rate is $5-20 for ST and 15-30 for LT, no more. Granted, I am in my mid forties and in fairly good shape, however these girls are mainly looking for a sugar-daddy. Think about this, would Michael Douglas at 80+ have Catherine Zeta-Jones if he was a custodian (nothing against custodians)? These women are happy and fulfilled to sleep with us instead of a local 20 ish guy who stinks and has no money and beats them. I would rather sleep with an attractive older lady than a nasty 18 why / o crack working girl any day.
Fun stories? I will give you (Sidtip) credit for telling some interesting stories, however if you choose to break the common protocol, ie-overpaying, leave it out. I have a friend here on the forum who goes bareback all the time but he knows that this is unpopular here so he leaves it out of his stories. Get it.
I will leave this site for Cambodia today with one humorous Cambodian story. My friend was telling me that when he takes his clothes to the laundry lady in PP that she charges extra if you have any streaks in your drawers, so he told me to make sure I keep my undies clean when there. I plan to hook-up with as many women as I can and pay the least amount of money. I'm a middle-class teacher. Capitalism rules! Good luck and happy hunting.
[QUOTE=KWKids;1582995]If you choose to pay he stated that the going rate is $5-20 for ST and 15-30 for LT, no more. [/QUOTE]Good luck! I think the $5 - $20 range for ST quality girls is way too optimistic. I think you will find the real range is $20 to $40 for ST bar girls. It is true though, that ex-pats get a better rate, but that is because they know the girls a long time and put up with a certain amount of BS from them. But if you were to go into a Phnom Penh Bar cold where the girls do not know you and you do not speak Khmer, expect to pay at least $25 to $35. As a matter of fact, if you do go to these hostess bars, you will encounter a number of girls on their "mens" and therefor not barfineable. On the other hand, if you want to pick up a stray FL around Wat Phnom you will most certainly pay less. Personally, I wouldn't shag those girls even if they paid me.
As for Siem Reap, I think there is much less to choose from and the quality is lower than Phnom Penh. One goes to Siem Reap for the Angkor Archaeological park. Any decent girls you find there are a bonus.
Have a great trip!
You don't need to go to bars for girls.
There should be many motobike drivers hanging out in front of your hotel. Ask your hotel door man to recommend one, and take his name and his pictures for security.
Tell him you want to find pretty girls for Boom Boom long time. He will take you to many places near town center where you can check out the girls and make your selection.
I have gone this route many times in Siem Reap and Pnom Penh with good results and no problem. Just make sure you know who the drivers are in case something bad happens.
The recent threads are becominmg monotonous and personal!
I think Admin needs to step in and put a stop to it -and delete a few posts.
Nothing better to do Sidtip?
[QUOTE=Bumholes1;1583557]The recent threads are becominmg monotonous and personal!
I think Admin needs to step in and put a stop to it -and delete a few posts.
Nothing better to do Sidtip?[/QUOTE]I agree. Guys like him only come her to show off with money. This conversation it not about mongering anymore but about ego. And if you need to show a girl 3000 dollar to get in her pants, you are probably not the most attractive guy and especially not very clever.
[QUOTE=GentleBright;1585132]I agree. Guys like him only come her to show off with money. This conversation it not about mongering anymore but about ego. And if you need to show a girl 3000 dollar to get in her pants, you are probably not the most attractive guy and especially not very clever.[/QUOTE]Are you guys for real? I gave a girl a tip for a fun time and you have been crying about it for more than a week now. Are you really so poor and so cheap that you have to dwell on it for so long? Every post I have made since has been in reply to someone who is upset that the girl got a bit of extra money. She deserved it. She does a horrible job.
Who paid $3000? If I was the most attractive guy I would probably not be paying. Correct! Clever is very subjective.
Just to change the topic, I've been looking into hotels for a visit in August and here is there GF status if anyone ever needs it:
Golden Temple Hotel. I'd + USD35 per night joiner fee!
Apsara Centrepole. Doesn't allow visitors.
Bayon Boutique. USD10 per night for joiners.
Seda Villa. I'd and no joiner fee.
Hope this helps. Looking forward to seeing some new discussions on here =: O).
Out of interest, almost all reports name Mikey's as the only girl bar in town. But I once came across a random comment that said "all the bars are full of hookers". That certainly wasn't my impression last time I was there. Are there any updates?
If anyone is looking for a reliable driver while in town, search on Cambodiataxidriver. Mr Phat comes recommended.
Pulse.
[QUOTE=KWKids;1582995]I'm leaving for Cambodia today, so I will be short and probably not on the site for a while. I did recently (Jan. '14) take a trip to the DR and did not leave a returning post due to it not being a great trip. I was disappointed and did not want to rehash it in a negative way on this site. I did get layed a lot but it seemed everyone was constantly trying to scam / hustle you including the ladies. Definitely no GFE's, which I prefer.
Although this will be my first trip to Cambodia, a good friend of mine has recently moved there and has filled me in on the ends and outs. He is going to show me around. He is well established in the Ex-pat community in PP. He dates both local girls and ex-pat ladies. From what he tells me there are a lot of girls in Siem Riep and PP that are looking for a BF and not $(non-pros). If you choose to pay he stated that the going rate is $5-20 for ST and 15-30 for LT, no more. Granted, I am in my mid forties and in fairly good shape, however these girls are mainly looking for a sugar-daddy. Think about this, would Michael Douglas at 80+ have Catherine Zeta-Jones if he was a custodian (nothing against custodians)? These women are happy and fulfilled to sleep with us instead of a local 20 ish guy who stinks and has no money and beats them. I would rather sleep with an attractive older lady than a nasty 18 why / o crack working girl any day.
Fun stories? I will give you (Sidtip) credit for telling some interesting stories, however if you choose to break the common protocol, ie-overpaying, leave it out. I have a friend here on the forum who goes bareback all the time but he knows that this is unpopular here so he leaves it out of his stories. Get it.
I will leave this site for Cambodia today with one humorous Cambodian story. My friend was telling me that when he takes his clothes to the laundry lady in PP that she charges extra if you have any streaks in your drawers, so he told me to make sure I keep my undies clean when there. I plan to hook-up with as many women as I can and pay the least amount of money. I'm a middle-class teacher. Capitalism rules! Good luck and happy hunting.[/QUOTE]I am lost on how your world of Capitalism works with Mandated Barfine and Tipping Control along with censorship?
BTW, your shit story was not funny. It is disgusting to expect 3rd country people will clean your shit for nothing! Ask your friend to properly wipe himself. Proper protocol? WTF is that?
[QUOTE=Sidtip;1585477]Are you guys for real? I gave a girl a tip for a fun time and you have been crying about it for more than a week now. Are you really so poor and so cheap that you have to dwell on it for so long? Every post I have made since has been in reply to someone who is upset that the girl got a bit of extra money. She deserved it. She does a horrible job.
Who paid $3000? If I was the most attractive guy I would probably not be paying. Correct! Clever is very subjective.[/QUOTE]I give you permission to spend your money anyway you like. Of course you don't need my permission or anyone else's.
[QUOTE=Dg8787;1589382]I am lost on how your world of Capitalism works with Mandated Barfine and Tipping Control along with censorship?
BTW, your shit story was not funny. It is disgusting to expect 3rd country people will clean your shit for nothing! Ask your friend to properly wipe himself. Proper protocol? WTF is that?[/QUOTE]Thanks DG. I was beginning to think everyone on this site was a tight arse scum bag with no thoughts for the girls who make us so happy.
[QUOTE=Sidtip;1592745]Thanks DG. I was beginning to think everyone on this site was a tight arse scum bag with no thoughts for the girls who make us so happy.[/QUOTE]LOL. I think there are a lot of decent thoughtful understanding members here that don't want to be blasted so they don't chip in. Small amount, usually the same ones blast away for the mere cost of $19.95 a year. Ever hear the saying "hurt people hurt people"? Yep, for a few dollars they can take it out and abuse some third world poor people. When they think someone like you comes along and could ruin their little playground. All hell breaks loose. They try to drive you under with their remarks and posts.
[QUOTE=Sidtip;1592745]Thanks DG. I was beginning to think everyone on this site was a tight arse scum bag with no thoughts for the girls who make us so happy.[/QUOTE]Thinking with your dick again? Why would you give a thought for a hooker? The only thought they are having about you is that of a walking ATM, which you are gladly living up to.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1593999]Thinking with your dick again? Why would you give a thought for a hooker? The only thought they are having about you is that of a walking ATM, which you are gladly living up to.[/QUOTE]What a low way to think of people. Do you walk into a car mechanics and treat them like shit because they have oily hands and only fix cars? What is your job dude because if you do not save orphan children then (based on your way of thinking) I should not give a fuck about you. What a disgrace.
Sleeping with old, ugly, fat, smelly dudes is not a fun thing to do. These girls do it for lots of reasons. Some want a Gucci handbag. Others have children that they can't afford to feed. Some do it to feed their elderly parents. Some have been beaten by their boyfriends or disowned by their parents and have no other options but to sleep with someone for money.
Why do I drop a few coins into the hands of a child I see scavenging for food, why do I donate to the Red Cross, why do I open doors for females and give up my seat to the elderly?
You obviously don't do these things because the only thing you care about is you. Why don't you give up your seat for the elderly? Or, if you do, are your comments based on the fact that you only hate sex workers. Because you are a hypocritical Christian who believes sex workers are evil despite partaking in what they have to offer.
When you have a logical argument I would like to hear it.
In the meantime I think this time of attitude is disgusting. Have a good think about your comments dude.
I'll be back in SR in four weeks. I can't wait. I am going to tip like crazy and make the girls all think that westerners are wealthy. I'll tell them that if they form a union and all agree to a set price then tourists will just have to pay it. I'm sure this will see prices rising as soon as I leave. The cheap days will be over and the girls will all be able to buy BMWs and Chanel purses. Those girls will love me and invite me to meet their families. (if you read the shit that has been written below in previous weeks you will understand why I'm saying this).
A little reality and perspective is probably in order.
Most people around the world work because they need to do it to survive. That's true of mechanics, factory workers, taxi drivers and nearly anyone else you can think of. Very few people would continue doing their job if they didn't get paid for it.
While Sidtip is right that bad circumstances are often the precursor, the truth is that women working bars and massage parlors in a place like this can make much more than many of their sisters who work as street vendors or low-paid factory jobs. The path to a hundred dollar a month sweat shop doesn't look much different than the path to Sexy Girl Bar.
Treating fellow human beings with dignity is something we should all do, but I'm sure that we all don't, at least not all the time. Money doesn't necessarily come into this equation. There are poor fellows who treat women nicely and guys with loads of money that treat them like shit.
Services tend to be priced at what the market with tolerate. That goes for the kinds of services this board is about the same as any. Some people will pay more, some less, especially here where haggling is done for everything. Some women troll Darlin Darlin for $100ST with Korean high rollers in the evening only to end up at Pontoon at 2 am in search of a white tourist in a t-shirt who has an extra $40. Some women work tourist traps in Siem Reap looking for $50 while women of equal looks work brothels aimed at locals where the rate is $10.
It's all relative.
[QUOTE=Sidtip;1594435]What a low way to think of people. Do you walk into a car mechanics and treat them like shit because they have oily hands and only fix cars? What is your job dude because if you do not save orphan children then (based on your way of thinking) I should not give a fuck about you. What a disgrace.
Sleeping with old, ugly, fat, smelly dudes is not a fun thing to do. These girls do it for lots of reasons. Some want a Gucci handbag. Others have children that they can't afford to feed. Some do it to feed their elderly parents. Some have been beaten by their boyfriends or disowned by their parents and have no other options but to sleep with someone for money.
Why do I drop a few coins into the hands of a child I see scavenging for food, why do I donate to the Red Cross, why do I open doors for females and give up my seat to the elderly?
You obviously don't do these things because the only thing you care about is you. Why don't you give up your seat for the elderly? Or, if you do, are your comments based on the fact that you only hate sex workers. Because you are a hypocritical Christian who believes sex workers are evil despite partaking in what they have to offer.
When you have a logical argument I would like to hear it.
In the meantime I think this time of attitude is disgusting. Have a good think about your comments dude.
I'll be back in SR in four weeks. I can't wait. I am going to tip like crazy and make the girls all think that westerners are wealthy. I'll tell them that if they form a union and all agree to a set price then tourists will just have to pay it. I'm sure this will see prices rising as soon as I leave. The cheap days will be over and the girls will all be able to buy BMWs and Chanel purses. Those girls will love me and invite me to meet their families. (if you read the shit that has been written below in previous weeks you will understand why I'm saying this).[/QUOTE]Nobody is -or need be- treated like shit as you suggest Sidtip.
A car mechanic is paid $x an hour to fix cars. He fixes yours, you pay and thank him and drive away.
A Doctor is paid $y an hour. He checks you over, fixes your ailment, you pay and thank him and off you go. He gets more money than the car mechanic because his work is more specialised and needed more training. The car mechanic cannot become a Doctor.
A hooker is paid $z for her time in providing sex. She cannot be a car mecahnic or a Doctor, because she has no qualifications. All she can do is sell pussy. You play with her, shag her, pay her and thank her for making you happy.
None of the above need a tip. They have a price structure, and we all pay the same for a similar service. Except you, Sidtip, like to pay over the odds to your hooker, who in due course thinks she should perhaps charge more. Then there is a problem, her fellow hookers will shag for less than her, and she ends up with less or no customers, and she and her family suffer. Who's fault? Yours Sidtip!
Prices are controlled by supply and demand. Let a hooker quote a price and you either accept or decline. You may offer a couple of $ more if she does this or that. If she does -you pay what was agreed not more.
People like you fuck it up for the rest of us and for the girls themselves in the long run!
[QUOTE=Sidtip;1594435]When you have a logical argument I would like to hear it.
In the meantime I think this time of attitude is disgusting. Have a good think about your comments dude.
I'll be back in SR in four weeks. I can't wait. I am going to tip like crazy and make the girls all think that westerners are wealthy. I'll tell them that if they form a union and all agree to a set price then tourists will just have to pay it. I'm sure this will see prices rising as soon as I leave. The cheap days will be over and the girls will all be able to buy BMWs and Chanel purses. Those girls will love me and invite me to meet their families. (if you read the shit that has been written below in previous weeks you will understand why I'm saying this).[/QUOTE]There was no argument. Why are you trying to create one by saying that I think and feel in ways that I never even expressed? Tip like crazy. I could care less. I have never had to pay for pussy in any country a day in my life. I just do it sometimes for the fun of it and in between chicks who are not hookers. So why would I need to romance a hooker and try to win their approval? Try showing up without money and see how fond they are of you then. Or better yet, just show up with all the money you can muster and pass it out without fucking anybody since you are such a humanitarian.
[QUOTE=Dg8787;1593979]LOL. I think there are a lot of decent thoughtful understanding members here that don't want to be blasted so they don't chip in. Small amount, usually the same ones blast away for the mere cost of $19.95 a year. Ever hear the saying "hurt people hurt people"? Yep, for a few dollars they can take it out and abuse some third world poor people. When they think someone like you comes along and could ruin their little playground. All hell breaks loose. They try to drive you under with their remarks and posts.[/QUOTE]Play it again John!
[QUOTE=Bumholes1;1594602]Nobody is -or need be- treated like shit as you suggest Sidtip.
Except you, Sidtip, like to pay over the odds to your hooker, who in due course thinks she should perhaps charge more. Then there is a problem, her fellow hookers will shag for less than her, and she ends up with less or no customers, and she and her family suffer. Who's fault? Yours Sidtip!
Prices are controlled by supply and demand. Let a hooker quote a price and you either accept or decline. You may offer a couple of $ more if she does this or that. If she does -you pay what was agreed not more.
People like you fuck it up for the rest of us and for the girls themselves in the long run![/QUOTE]Again, the logic is absent.
Firstly, if a girl gets a tip it does not follow that her prices will be higher for everyone else. Does a restaurant put up its prices when staff get big tips?
Secondly, if a girl is not getting customers because her price is too high then she can easily lower her price. Her family does not have to suffer. In fact, the family gains because she will get some customers paying the higher price and can always negotiate a lower price if the customer looks like they are walking away.
She might also find that she sees better quality of customers because the stingy, tight arses will go elsewhere.
Is it better for a girls to see two people who pay $100 each or 10 people who pay $20 each (I can picture the cheap payers now. Yuck).
I am replying to your comments. I'm not starting this little tiff. I'm sure people would have preferred you to have given us an interesting story instead of trying to tell me or anyone else what they can or cannot do.
And, as I have said before, I care more about the girls than tight wad punters like you.
The girl in question worked at some bar in the outskirts. I have no idea of her name or the how to get back to that place. A tuk tuk driver just took me there to get her. I want her again.
One more thing. After dinner the girl took me to some nightclub. I always hand them some money when we are going out to that they can pay for everything we do. I think (but may be wrong) that this removes some of the stigma of them being a "bought" girl when we go into places. Anyway, she gave a few people in the club tips from bringing the tubs of beer and other bits and bobs. She tipped them dude! This made her feel good and made the recipients feel good. Life should be about making others happy and doing nice things. Selfishness does not make the world a better place.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1594614] I have never had to pay for pussy in any country a day in my life. I just do it sometimes for the fun of it and in between chicks who are not hookers. [/QUOTE]Can anyone else see the contradiction?
[QUOTE=Sidtip;1594851]Can anyone else see the contradiction?[/QUOTE]Dude you are a dummy. You give the girl your money to let her give it all away to her fellow countrypeople. No problem. This is the foreigners money. It is endless. You are a fucking outsider. The local people know the hookers when they see them, so the only stigma you are removing is to make YOURSELF feel better. Nothing wrong with a fantasy. The problem is when you start believing it.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1594953]Dude you are a dummy. You give the girl your money to let her give it all away to her fellow countrypeople. No problem. This is the foreigners money. It is endless. You are a fucking outsider. The local people know the hookers when they see them, so the only stigma you are removing is to make YOURSELF feel better. Nothing wrong with a fantasy. The problem is when you start believing it.[/QUOTE]Really! There must be more than 1000 prostitutes in my city, but unless they are walking a particular street or in a brothel I can't tell which girl is and which isn't. In fact every girl in a nightclub dresses like one. So, how is it that you have magic glasses that enable you to tell who is and who isn't.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1594953]Dude you are a dummy. You give the girl your money to let her give it all away to her fellow countrypeople. No problem. This is the foreigners money. It is endless. You are a fucking outsider. The local people know the hookers when they see them, so the only stigma you are removing is to make YOURSELF feel better. Nothing wrong with a fantasy. The problem is when you start believing it.[/QUOTE]ST. Someday after you have fucked yourself around the world and truly become an international monger, you will be able to walk down the street and see a 1000 girls and know you have fucked 899 of them for less than the price of a double whopper! An experienced monger marks his money so he knows which family members ends up with it.
[QUOTE=Sidtip;1595116]Really! There must be more than 1000 prostitutes in my city, but unless they are walking a particular street or in a brothel I can't tell which girl is and which isn't. In fact every girl in a nightclub dresses like one. So, how is it that you have magic glasses that enable you to tell who is and who isn't.[/QUOTE]Well first off, do you think that you are her first foreign trick? Do you think she just started going to the place that you went with her when you showed up on the scene? No. The locals see the same girls day in and day out at the same places hugged up with different foreigners. That for one gives them a big fucking clue who the hookers are.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1596293]Well first off, do you think that you are her first foreign trick? Do you think she just started going to the place that you went with her when you showed up on the scene? No. The locals see the same girls day in and day out at the same places hugged up with different foreigners. That for one gives them a big fucking clue who the hookers are.[/QUOTE]Maybe. But I don't think they all go to the same places all the time. But that's not the point. My point was that it is nice to do something nice for a poor, unfortunate girl who, for whatever reason, has to sleep with, strangers. I really think it is very odd that so many males on this site have a problem with this. It's a bit sad that you are so hateful towards other people.
On a more positive note, I will be back in SR in about 4 weeks and can't wait to try the 10-girl massage. This place is so cheap. It's where dreams can be fulfilled. But I have to work out a way to trim the hairs on my legs without shaving them. Last time four hours of massages a day left me feeling like someone had tried to rip out all my hairs and the pain finally forced me to give up the massages altogether.
If anyone knows a female tuk tuk driver, I would gladly hire her while I am there (not for sex), just to try to put money in a females pocket in a country where males still hold more than their fair share of the jobs. Haha. I bet our tightwad posters have a problem with giving females jobs as well.
[QUOTE=Pulse;1587465]Just to change the topic, I've been looking into hotels for a visit in August and here is there GF status if anyone ever needs it:
Golden Temple Hotel. I'd + USD35 per night joiner fee!
Apsara Centrepole. Doesn't allow visitors.
Bayon Boutique. USD10 per night for joiners.
Seda Villa. I'd and no joiner fee....
[/QUOTE]Does anyone know the Park Hyatt's policy? I tried searching and saw where someone asked back in January but couldn't find any response.
[QUOTE=Nabru;1597109]Does anyone know the Park Hyatt's policy? I tried searching and saw where someone asked back in January but couldn't find any response.[/QUOTE]A lass from Mikeys told me a while back that under no circumstances would she or any of her fellow workers be allowed in the Hyatt!
[QUOTE=Nabru;1597109]Does anyone know the Park Hyatt's policy? I tried searching and saw where someone asked back in January but couldn't find any response.[/QUOTE]I can't answer this, I had dinner with a girl there and everyone is eager to serve you and there was no hint of any ill feelings. The girl could not speak a work of English and I could not speak Khmer, so we had the waitress translating our conversation so we could speak to each other. It was funny and the waitress got to know that we had only just met and here we were having dinner and no hope of talking to each other. Was quite funny.
The Hyatt had these swinging outdoor couch things as part of the restaurant. I want to take a girl and sit on those for some outdoor hanky hanky as we eat. If anyone knows of a hot girl who wants dinner in 3 weeks.
But Nabru, be careful, if you tell the dudes on this site (apart from DG and a handful of others) that you are staying at the Hyatt, they will start carrying on about how you are showing off your money. And for God's sake man, don't tell anyone here if you give the girl a tip.
[QUOTE=Dg8787;1596255]ST. Someday after you have fucked yourself around the world and truly become an international monger, you will be able to walk down the street and see a 1000 girls and know you have fucked 899 of them for less than the price of a double whopper! An experienced monger marks his money so he knows which family members ends up with it.[/QUOTE]DG,
I have nothing but respect for you and your comments, but this year so far I have been with girls in Cambodia, Vietnam, Singapore, London, Paris, Amsterdam, Dubai and Abu Dhabi- and its only half way through the year.
And I still don't think I could positively know who and who is not a prostitute unless she was on a particular street, or window or standing on the street winking at dudes.
Most towns are big enough for girls to remain unknown, unless they just don't care.
[QUOTE=Sidtip;1597264]DG,
I have nothing but respect for you and your comments, but this year so far I have been with girls in Cambodia, Vietnam, Singapore, London, Paris, Amsterdam, Dubai and Abu Dhabi- and its only half way through the year.
And I still don't think I could positively know who and who is not a prostitute unless she was on a particular street, or window or standing on the street winking at dudes.
Most towns are big enough for girls to remain unknown, unless they just don't care.[/QUOTE]Sidtip,
My reply was more tongue-in-cheek as oppose to the others nose in brown cheeks replies. Yes, some guys have the ability to spot them a mile away or a kilometer away! Then again you and I may not be looking for the "hooker" type with the hooks out.
Reminds me of a time in Paris, there was a young 20 yo walking by that you would have never suspected to be working. Actually she was pretty new at it and I think needed a place to stay for the night. She approached me thru some broken English and it took me a few minutes to understand her. She was dressed up in clothing that covered her up, no skin showing and wearing a knit hat. Not very provocative. I decided WTF. Let me tell you when the clothes came off she had one beautiful firm body. With a little foreplay she turned into a sensual sexual feminine wild woman. Most Paris SW are st 30 minutes deals. After the first round I got up to clean and get dressed. Thru her broken English and some French she wanted to stay all night with me. What a night! In the morning she refused any extra money, I just tucked it in her purse. My regret to this day was I didn't get her phone number. I went back there for the next 3 nights looking for her to no avail. Priceless!
I saw a couple street walkers standing around the rim of the bar street all the tourists drink at. But they looked beat. So I continued up the street through the souvenir market. As the souvenirs end, MPs begin. I went into one of these places where the girls sat outside and "massage? I was led to a wooden room with posters of bhuddist babies and rainbows, a dirty mattress, and a box of tissues.
I sat. The girl who led me in had left down the hall. I took off everything but my underwear. A girl in her late 20's came in and gave me a horrible massage, but while doing so, graced my dick and asked if I wanted Boom Boom. I said yeah, and she quoted $40. Twenty I said; thirty she. No twenty. Thirty. Fuck it, thirty, let's do this. The took off her jeans and t-shirt. She was slightly chubby, and her pussy was recently trimmed. I pumped her missonary. I tried to get her to go on top, but she wouldn't. So I finished missionary as she looked at the wall.
As soon as I came she was dressed and out. I took off the rubber she had provided and left.
Perhaps I paid too much? I don't know. It was fast and exhilarating.
[QUOTE=Dg8787;1597457]Sidtip,
My reply was more tongue-in-cheek as oppose to the others nose in brown cheeks replies. Yes, some guys have the ability to spot them a mile away or a kilometer away! Then again you and I may not be looking for the "hooker" type with the hooks out.
Reminds me of a time in Paris, there was a young 20 yo walking by that you would have never suspected to be working. Actually she was pretty new at it and I think needed a place to stay for the night. She approached me thru some broken English and it took me a few minutes to understand her. She was dressed up in clothing that covered her up, no skin showing and wearing a knit hat. Not very provocative. I decided WTF. Let me tell you when the clothes came off she had one beautiful firm body. With a little foreplay she turned into a sensual sexual feminine wild woman. Most Paris SW are st 30 minutes deals. After the first round I got up to clean and get dressed. Thru her broken English and some French she wanted to stay all night with me. What a night! In the morning she refused any extra money, I just tucked it in her purse. My regret to this day was I didn't get her phone number. I went back there for the next 3 nights looking for her to no avail. Priceless![/QUOTE]Sorry DG. Went way over my head. I posted a reply weeks ago but it didn't appear. I'm on my way back in a few days, but this post is dead. I was expecting at least a report from that dude. Forgot his name.
I'm beginning to think 10 girls at once is a waste. Even when you get two its hard to concentrate. And if I close my eyes I bet some of them will slack off.
First time in SR. I have contributed to forum in other locations. Do not speak Khemer
RTFF.
Any recommendation for LT.
During day, I am off to temples!
[QUOTE=ManonsanBoy;1610380]First time in SR. I have contributed to forum in other locations. Do not speak Khemer
RTFF.
Any recommendation for LT.
During day, I am off to temples![/QUOTE]I arrived yesterday and it only took a few minutes using Tango or one of the alternatives to find a girl. Be very very careful. The prettiest ones are ladyboys with their perfect faces, makeup and breasts. Be warned.
The one I got initially wanted $100 overnight but I told her I had an offer of $60 so she met that price and wanted to come at 9 pm. I said she could have $70 if she came by 7 pm. She was really nice. About 26, not bad english but we just typed messages to each other on the phone. Not sure why she can write better than speak it. Kissing all over. Got into the mood and tried to get me inside without protection in a bit of a frenzied period, but no way. She had initially asked for condoms so she knew that they were important but sometimes you just don't want to wait. She left from work just before 8 am. So use your chat apps. Makes life so much easier. And also be prepared to be ripped off in the massage joints. They will force you to take two girls. The starting price yesterday for the happy ending was $25 per girl. I just said $10 each and said it was take it or leave it. Then they started asking if I had been there before etc trying to work out how far they could scam me. They started asking for the 10 to become 12 and I just pretended to get up to leave and they soon shut up. These girls are master manipulators. I love them.
[QUOTE=EastonWest;1603248]I saw a couple street walkers standing around the rim of the bar street all the tourists drink at. But they looked beat. So I continued up the street through the souvenir market. As the souvenirs end, MPs begin. I went into one of these places where the girls sat outside and "massage? I was led to a wooden room with posters of bhuddist babies and rainbows, a dirty mattress, and a box of tissues.
I sat. The girl who led me in had left down the hall. I took off everything but my underwear. A girl in her late 20's came in and gave me a horrible massage, but while doing so, graced my dick and asked if I wanted Boom Boom. I said yeah, and she quoted $40. Twenty I said; thirty she. No twenty. Thirty. Fuck it, thirty, let's do this. The took off her jeans and t-shirt. She was slightly chubby, and her pussy was recently trimmed. I pumped her missonary. I tried to get her to go on top, but she wouldn't. So I finished missionary as she looked at the wall.
As soon as I came she was dressed and out. I took off the rubber she had provided and left.
Perhaps I paid too much? I don't know. It was fast and exhilarating.[/QUOTE]I guess it's all relative. Tourists can't be expected to be experts, and will always be asked bigger rates. But just to put this kind of thing into perspective, the kind of service you described is generally available for 10-15 total all around the country.
[QUOTE=EastonWest;1603248]I saw a couple street walkers standing around the rim of the bar street all the tourists drink at. But they looked beat. So I continued up the street through the souvenir market. As the souvenirs end, MPs begin. I went into one of these places where the girls sat outside and "massage? I was led to a wooden room with posters of bhuddist babies and rainbows, a dirty mattress, and a box of tissues.
I sat. The girl who led me in had left down the hall. I took off everything but my underwear. A girl in her late 20's came in and gave me a horrible massage, but while doing so, graced my dick and asked if I wanted Boom Boom. I said yeah, and she quoted $40. Twenty I said; thirty she. No twenty. Thirty. Fuck it, thirty, let's do this. The took off her jeans and t-shirt. She was slightly chubby, and her pussy was recently trimmed. I pumped her missonary. I tried to get her to go on top, but she wouldn't. So I finished missionary as she looked at the wall.
As soon as I came she was dressed and out. I took off the rubber she had provided and left.
Perhaps I paid too much? I don't know. It was fast and exhilarating.[/QUOTE]Where exactly are these places? From my last visit to SR, I remember about a million souvenir markets.
[QUOTE=EastonWest;1603248]I saw a couple street walkers standing around the rim of the bar street all the tourists drink at. But they looked beat. So I continued up the street through the souvenir market. As the souvenirs end, MPs begin. I went into one of these places where the girls sat outside and "massage? I was led to a wooden room with posters of bhuddist babies and rainbows, a dirty mattress, and a box of tissues.
I sat. The girl who led me in had left down the hall. I took off everything but my underwear. A girl in her late 20's came in and gave me a horrible massage, but while doing so, graced my dick and asked if I wanted Boom Boom. I said yeah, and she quoted $40. Twenty I said; thirty she. No twenty. Thirty. Fuck it, thirty, let's do this. The took off her jeans and t-shirt. She was slightly chubby, and her pussy was recently trimmed. I pumped her missonary. I tried to get her to go on top, but she wouldn't. So I finished missionary as she looked at the wall.
As soon as I came she was dressed and out. I took off the rubber she had provided and left.
Perhaps I paid too much? I don't know. It was fast and exhilarating.[/QUOTE]Where exactly is this place? From what I remember of my last trip to Siem Reap, there are a lot of souvenir shops.
[QUOTE=PmAustralia;1611354]Where exactly is this place? From what I remember of my last trip to Siem Reap, there are a lot of souvenir shops.[/QUOTE]I know Siem Reap fairly well but I could not work out where Easton had been going or where he wound up.
First up, I think he is talking about Pub Street but I have to say I've never really been aware of street walkers offering their services or even lingering. I've been in and around that area at all hours of the day and night, solo and with friends, sober and fairly drunk and I've never been approached. Apart from tuk-tuk drivers.
There is a souvenir market nearby (I can never remember if it is the Old Market or the New Market) but it is parallel to Pub Street between Hospital Street, Streets 9 & 11 and the river. While some of the operators of tourist related stalls will stay open into the night it's not a major at night time draw for foreigners with money.
There is a Night Market mainly pitched at tourists but it faces onto Sivatha Rd. It is not off the end of Pub Street.
On the corner of Sivatha and Sok San Rds is X Bar, an open all hours bar that often does have WL's but the quality has been consistently reported in this forum to be average. There are a number of semi legit massage places on the same side of Sivatha Rd as well as up Sok San Rd which runs parallel with the night market.
I have never walked out through the back of the Night Market but it sounds like he may have hit a pretty low end area mainly used by locals. There are better options that should come in at a more reasonable fee.
If you are a first or second time visitor to the town then maybe try one of the motorcycle guys in Sok San Rd outside X Bar. Most speak English and will be able to show you a range of options. Be prepared to be taken some distance away from the tourist part of town but for the most part your little adventure will be fairly safe. I've done it a few times and never had a problem. Particularly if they think you're in town for a few more days.
Just to be on the safe side though, I recommend that you leave the credit cards in your room and only carry what you are prepared to spend. Or lose. Make sure you carry a few smaller bills and don't pay the driver / rider until he takes you back to where you started – unless you want to walk.
Good luck with you projects.
Moresauce
The Triangle Music Bar / restaurant is a fairly recent addition to the nightlife scene being situate just around the corner from Pub Street towards Sivatha.
Live music with 3 Phillipino singers. Beer $1. 50.
Some 3/4 freelancers gather later towards the back of the seating area. Clearly of higher quality to the streetwalkers and the Mikeys girls.
They are asking for $60 for a few hours against the street walkers and Mikeys $20/30. Service a cut above Mikeys and the streetwalkers so I have been informed.
[QUOTE=Bumholes1;1614672]The Triangle Music Bar / restaurant is a fairly recent addition to the nightlife scene being situate just around the corner from Pub Street towards Sivatha.
Live music with 3 Phillipino singers. Beer $1. 50.
Some 3/4 freelancers gather later towards the back of the seating area. Clearly of higher quality to the streetwalkers and the Mikeys girls.
They are asking for $60 for a few hours against the street walkers and Mikeys $20/30. Service a cut above Mikeys and the streetwalkers so I have been informed.[/QUOTE]I dropped into Mickeys to see what it was like last week. About 10 girls. Some old. One very tall. Some not bad. Maybe 3's - 7's in looks. Nothing hot. One in jeans sat beside me but I was limp and told her I couldn't possibly do it again, so she just sat and had a drink and a little chat. I went back the next night and another one say with me. Bought her a coke, she was wearing a skirt and let me finger her for a while which is always fun while having a drink. Rubbed me a bit and wanted to come with me. I think she said $50, but had done it elsewherea few hours earlier and I was catching a plane in a couple of hours so it wasn't possible. So we sat and fingered and rubbed for a while longer and then I left. I tipped her $10 or $20 - who knows and who cares. It was a fun way to spend an hour or two.
Make sure your dollars don't have rips in them. Don't just stuff them into your pockets and damage them or they will be rejected. The ATM withdrawal fee accross the road is $4.
[QUOTE=Sidtip;1616996]I dropped into Mickeys to see what it was like last week. About 10 girls. Some old. One very tall. Some not bad. Maybe 3's - 7's in looks. Nothing hot. One in jeans sat beside me but I was limp and told her I couldn't possibly do it again, so she just sat and had a drink and a little chat. I went back the next night and another one say with me. Bought her a coke, she was wearing a skirt and let me finger her for a while which is always fun while having a drink. Rubbed me a bit and wanted to come with me. I think she said $50, but had done it elsewherea few hours earlier and I was catching a plane in a couple of hours so it wasn't possible. So we sat and fingered and rubbed for a while longer and then I left. I tipped her $10 or $20 - who knows and who cares. It was a fun way to spend an hour or two.
Make sure your dollars don't have rips in them. Don't just stuff them into your pockets and damage them or they will be rejected. The ATM withdrawal fee accross the road is $4.[/QUOTE]The going rate at Mikeys is usually $20ST and $30 all night. They will ask for more and "green" tourists will most likely pay more. The streetwalkers (most of whom end up in Mikeys at some time) can be had for the same rate.
Apparently 25 in 100 pros are hiv positive in Cambodia.
[QUOTE=Sidtip;1616996]I dropped into Mickeys to see what it was like last week. About 10 girls. Some old. One very tall. Some not bad. Maybe 3's - 7's in looks. Nothing hot. One in jeans sat beside me but I was limp and told her I couldn't possibly do it again, so she just sat and had a drink and a little chat. I went back the next night and another one say with me. Bought her a coke, she was wearing a skirt and let me finger her for a while which is always fun while having a drink. Rubbed me a bit and wanted to come with me. I think she said $50, but had done it elsewherea few hours earlier and I was catching a plane in a couple of hours so it wasn't possible. So we sat and fingered and rubbed for a while longer and then I left. I tipped her $10 or $20 - who knows and who cares. It was a fun way to spend an hour or two.
Make sure your dollars don't have rips in them. Don't just stuff them into your pockets and damage them or they will be rejected. The ATM withdrawal fee accross the road is $4.[/QUOTE]Sidtip, glad to see you got your finger on it or in it! Sounds like you had a great time.
[QUOTE=Sidtip;1577994]........................I'm going back to Cambodia but only to SR for the 10-girl massage that I think I need to try just so I can say that I have done it. This is something even the cheap dudes can do - $3 per girl for 30 minutes plus a tip of $3-7 per girl to have 10 topless girls playing with your little brother and all your other bits all at once while you are lathered in oil. The oil actually costs extra.[/QUOTE]10 girl massage? Really; how do you ask for it and where?
[QUOTE=ManonsanBoy;1622105]10 girl massage? Really; how do you ask for it and where?[/QUOTE]I'm not sure of the street name, but it leads down to one of the night markets. There is actually a market in the street as well. The street comes alive in the evenings and there are lots of massage girls spruiking in the street as you walk past. They have pink and orange chairs outside. If you are female you have your massage in these chairs. If you are male you get taken to an 'airconditioned' room. They will offer you massages for $5 per half hour as you walk past or something similar because it's a slow night or you are their first customer or you are their last customer or whatever. Just ask for 10 girls. They will love you and giggle and go mad because you are giving them money. I went back to a month ago but only ended up with 7 girls for some reason. You become overdosed on sex in this place and sometimes you just want to lie back. It feels nice to have 7 hands on your cock and balls at once. Yes there is room, but it is not 7 times better than one girl. I'm not even sure that 2 girls is a whole lot better than one girl. Offer each of the girls $5 to play with it and you will have a dream come true. When you go for 10 girls only 3 or 4 are the type of girls you would pick. The others are a bit older or less attractive. Just make sure they sit down near your legs and keep the good ones up the top. Gran your favourites as you are walking down to the room and if you are holding their hands they will sit high up on your body.
Hello here,
I'm planning to go Cambodia with friends end of November for a little bit of fun!
My newbie question is: I look the price for monger in the forum, people always give the price in USD dollars.
I wonder, did I really need bring USD currency for pay the hook or I can pay with local money? My currency is euros.
Anyway, if you have some good local taxi contact for bring to local brothel or fishbowl, you are welcome to send me pm.
Thanks
[QUOTE=Goopa;1626999]Hello here,
I'm planning to go Cambodia with friends end of November for a little bit of fun!
My newbie question is: I look the price for monger in the forum, people always give the price in USD dollars.
I wonder, did I really need bring USD currency for pay the hook or I can pay with local money? My currency is euros.
Anyway, if you have some good local taxi contact for bring to local brothel or fishbowl, you are welcome to send me pm.
Thanks[/QUOTE]The reason the price is given in dollars is because the dollar is the day to day currency in Cambodia. The only time you'll see their local currency (the Rial) is for small change less than one dollar. Bring dollars -- with the bills in reasonably good condition -- and with relatively new series dates and you'll be fine.
SW4.
[QUOTE=Sidtip;1624777]I'm not sure of the street name, but it leads down to one of the night markets. There is actually a market in the street as well. [/QUOTE]If you are walking on Sivatha road, from Park Hyatt in the direction of pub street. Yes, Park Hyatt main entrance should be on your right hand side.
Lane after Mickeys night bar / blue wave bar, going towards Angkor night market. This lane is about 200-300 meters long and leads towards the night market. There are at least 3-4 massage parlors on each side of this lane. In this lane, everywhere, printed pricing was $8 for 1 hour oil massage but all were giving discount of $2 on the printed pricing! This street had slightly better quality of rooms. They all had massage chairs stationed outside next to the street.
[QUOTE=SirWilliam4;1627080]The reason the price is given in dollars is because the dollar is the day to day currency in Cambodia. The only time you'll see their local currency (the Rial) is for small change less than one dollar. Bring dollars -- with the bills in reasonably good condition -- and with relatively new series dates and you'll be fine.
SW4.[/QUOTE]The ATMs will give you the choice to get your money in Riel or USD.
[QUOTE=PmAustralia;1611354]Where exactly is this place? From what I remember of my last trip to Siem Reap, there are a lot of souvenir shops.[/QUOTE]Sorry for the late reply, but I think it was Sok San Rd.
After getting what I wanted for $30 at an MP on Sok San Rd, I decided to try it out again the following night. (the backpackers bars weren't giving me any hippy sex). So I went back down Sok San Rd where I had been the previous night. There are a few MP on the street. I went to the one nearing the end of the street. It looks like a driveway with a couple girls sitting outside saying "Mah-sAa?
I went to the same room, with a skinnier girl. The room had weird Buddhist posters on the walls of rainbows and babies; kind of creepy. The girl left the room and probably talked to her friend because she said $30 and wouldn't budget any lower. Oh well, DM; HS. She was a little better than the first chubby girl. Hairy Pussy, no BJ, cow-girl and missionary, and then I finished.
At this point I was thinking that LT or even ST is better than these MP places. Bargirls are more friendly and touchy-feely.
Guys. Monitoring these Cambodia reports and really wondering if Siem Reap is worth an extended stay after seeing the temple versus just heading back to Pattaya / Bangkok since I am well versed on those areas.
If someone could chime in on the following it would be greatly appreciated as I am not seeing much activity on ISG for this area. (Drinks on me!
- GF hotel close to some oilies with a pool.
- The best road or area with FS oilies.
- Recommended take out places to get a couple girls back to room.
- Any daytime beer bars with inventory or joiner for pool party of one's own design.
- Current USA rates for ST / LT.
Any recommendations of a reputable driver or bus back to the border from SR for crossing then back to Patts welcomed as well.
Or should I simply spend a day at the temple and head back to guarenteed high octane Thai fun. Was really hoping to sample the Cambodia fun for a few days but don't want to waste any time if it's slim Pickens. Thanks ISG mbrs and I will look forward to posting my BKK and Patts reports.
Guys,
Monitoring these Cambodia reports and really wondering if Siem Reap is worth an extended stay after seeing the temple versus just heading back to Pattaya / Bangkok since I am well versed on those areas.
If someone could chime in on the following it would be greatly appreciated as I am not seeing much activity on ISG for this area. (Drinks on me!
- GF hotel close to some oilies with a pool.
- The best road or area with FS oilies.
- Recommended take out places to get a couple girls back to room.
- Any daytime beer bars with inventory or joiner for pool party of one's own design.
- Current USA rates for ST / LT.
Any recommendations of a reputable driver or bus back to the border from SR for crossing then back to Patts welcomed as well.
Or should I simply spend a day at the temple and head back to guaranteed high octane Thai fun. Was really hoping to sample the Cambodia fun for a few days but don't want to waste any time if it's slim Pickens. Thanks ISG members and I will look forward to posting my BKK and Patts reports.
[QUOTE=FreeWillyBruh;1639908]Guys,
Monitoring these Cambodia reports and really wondering if Siem Reap is worth an extended stay after seeing the temple versus just heading back to Pattaya / Bangkok since I am well versed on those areas.
If someone could chime in on the following it would be greatly appreciated as I am not seeing much activity on ISG for this area. (Drinks on me!
- GF hotel close to some oilies with a pool.
- The best road or area with FS oilies.
- Recommended take out places to get a couple girls back to room.
- Any daytime beer bars with inventory or joiner for pool party of one's own design.
- Current USA rates for ST / LT.
Any recommendations of a reputable driver or bus back to the border from SR for crossing then back to Patts welcomed as well.
Or should I simply spend a day at the temple and head back to guaranteed high octane Thai fun. Was really hoping to sample the Cambodia fun for a few days but don't want to waste any time if it's slim Pickens. Thanks ISG members and I will look forward to posting my BKK and Patts reports.[/QUOTE]I just booked a flight. I had a choice of anywhere in Asia and SR was my first choice. Bangkok 2nd. Sure, Bangkok is easy, but SR offers more to hunters and explorers. There are lots of massage shops in the street mentioned below and I don't know anywhere else you can get 10 girls at once for $50 or so. You can also find girls on Tango or other chat apps who will stay overnight for $70 (others seem to get it cheaper but I end up tipping more than $70 anyway so you can pay less or more). And you can spend the night fingering a girl and having your cock rubbed in public in Mickeys / Mickys for $20. And then there are other bits and pieces if you look around. I tried to do a girl outside after visiting one of the temples. I had her for the day, but OMG I can't believe I tried to get her into the bushes to do it. Land mines. Talk about letting your dick control your mind.
I'll be back next week. Would love to hear of any special places worth visiting or any special girls.
I'm planning maybe 4 days here and then heading to Bangkok if things get boring.
[QUOTE=FreeWillyBruh;1639908]Guys,
Monitoring these Cambodia reports and really wondering if Siem Reap is worth an extended stay after seeing the temple versus just heading back to Pattaya / Bangkok since I am well versed on those areas.
If someone could chime in on the following it would be greatly appreciated as I am not seeing much activity on ISG for this area. (Drinks on me!
- GF hotel close to some oilies with a pool.
- The best road or area with FS oilies.
- Recommended take out places to get a couple girls back to room.
- Any daytime beer bars with inventory or joiner for pool party of one's own design.
- Current USA rates for ST / LT.
Any recommendations of a reputable driver or bus back to the border from SR for crossing then back to Patts welcomed as well.
Or should I simply spend a day at the temple and head back to guaranteed high octane Thai fun. Was really hoping to sample the Cambodia fun for a few days but don't want to waste any time if it's slim Pickens. Thanks ISG members and I will look forward to posting my BKK and Patts reports.[/QUOTE]I didn't answer your hotel questions but you can get an o0 k hotel here for $12 a night vs $60 a night in Bangkok. That's almost $50 a day extra to play with. Of course, if you stay somewhere like the Hyatt you will pay more. If you are only here to sleep and get it stroked for 5 hours a day you don't really need a fancy hotel. As for oilies haha. You pay an extra $1 or $2 for them to use oil in most of the massage places.
Thanks Bruh. I will book a couple SR nights and check things out. If it is difficult to quickly navigate and get a pulse on good places to recruit, will pull the plug and head back to Patts stat!
Where is the best concentration of FS oilies and a recommendation for 3-4 star Girl Friendly with pool and bar should any bruh's wish to share. Will look forward to posting formal trip report. Thanks Yo.
Hi free Willy.
I was in Siam reap for two weeks in Feb. The scene is not in your face as in BGK or PATTS. But generally the girls are cheaper. Speak better English and in my opinion are better looking and less mercenary. There are a couple of massage parlours (forget the street) and a pick up bar (Mikey's I think -its on the main drag). Overall I think ordinary shop girls would be up for it for a meal and a small tip.
I stayed in a 2 -3 * star hotel. King's Villa / Lodge. For around $30 per night (with pool and friendly staff).
Siam Reap is quite small so you can be oriented within 1-2 days. Some of the best food and handicrafts in Cambodia.
You can get there in one day by bus from Bangkok via Piopot (be aware of the rip offs there). By coast it would take longer than one day and require passing through Snokkyville (well worth a visit) and PP (well worth avoiding).
[QUOTE=FreeWillyBruh;1639908]
Monitoring these Cambodia reports really wondering if Siem Reap is worth an extended stay after seeing the temple versus just heading back to Pattaya / Bangkok since I am well versed on those areas.
If someone could chime in on the following it would be greatly appreciated as I am not seeing much activity on ISG for this area. (Drinks on me!
- GF hotel close to some oilies with a pool.
- The best road or area with FS oilies.
- Recommended take out places to get a couple girls back to room.
- Any daytime beer bars with inventory or joiner for pool party of one's own design.
- Current USA rates for ST / LT.
Any recommendations of a reputable driver or bus back to the border from SR for crossing then back to Patts welcomed as well.
Or should I simply spend a day at the temple and head back to guaranteed high octane Thai fun. Was really hoping to sample the Cambodia fun for a few days but don't want to waste any time if it's slim Pickens. Thanks ISG members and I will look forward to posting my BKK and Patts reports.[/QUOTE]
So, yesterday I went to *the* local hangout here in Siem Reap -- Mikey's Bar (pronounced Mickey's by all the locals).
Anyway, met up again with a sweet Khmer woman I'd seen -- and enjoyed -- on a previous trip. I had two beers, she had one lady drink, and we played five games of pool before we left. Total tab leaving the bar. Drum roll. $3. 00. Yep, three dollars. No bar fine. No fee for the pool. What a treat. Off to my hotel for a delightful couple of hours.
No doubt, this is *not* BKK or Pattaya or AC, but there *are* a few gems around here.
[QUOTE=ManonsanBoy;1617706]Apparently 25 in 100 pros are hiv positive in Cambodia.[/QUOTE]Your scientific rigor and citations astound me.
Thanks so much Ripple & Sir Will! I booked a Patts hotel through Agoda and if I extend in SR then no biggie if fun times present. Will check the hotel you recommend (thanks). Lastly, where ya'll suggest for a street name that has a good congregation of FS oilies. Any tour guide names by chance.
Willy
[QUOTE=FreeWillyBruh;1645184]Thanks so much Ripple & Sir Will! I booked a Patts hotel through Agoda and if I extend in SR then no biggie if fun times present. Will check the hotel you recommend (thanks). Lastly, where ya'll suggest for a street name that has a good congregation of FS oilies. Any tour guide names by chance.[/QUOTE]I think you are overreaching with SR. It's not the place of grandeur that you are imagining. You will be in Pattaya before you know it. FS oilies?
[QUOTE=FreeWillyBruh;1645184]Thanks so much Ripple & Sir Will! I booked a Patts hotel through Agoda and if I extend in SR then no biggie if fun times present. Will check the hotel you recommend (thanks). Lastly, where ya'll suggest for a street name that has a good congregation of FS oilies. Any tour guide names by chance.
Willy[/QUOTE]First of all, I did not recommend an hotel. I recommended a bar. There is limited action in SR. Some, but limited. Not like Thailand. I've never found a good FS oilie in SR. Maybe someone better acquainted than I does. Check the place out and let us know what you think, and what you find.
SW4.
[QUOTE=FreeWillyBruh;1639906]
Any recommendations of a reputable driver or bus back to the border from SR for crossing then back to Patts welcomed as well.[/QUOTE]Back in 2005 I took a bus from Siem Reap to the border (Krong Paoy Paet) and after crossing the border another (Thai) bus to Bangkok. It was a horrible trip. The roads in Cambodia were in such a bad condition that it took the bus 7 hours to get to the border which is only 100 miles or something like that. Then you have the border formalities that take quite some time as you're not the only tourist obviously, meanwhile standing in the bloody 40 degrees Celsius sun. Then you have a lunch break and have to wait for the Thai bus.
All in all I left early in the morning around 8 AM and arrived in Bangkok around 9 PM!
Maybe the roads in Cambodia are in better condition now, 9 years laters, but nevertheless it will still be a long trip. I would rather fly, there are some budget companies flying to SR.
[QUOTE=Ripple67;1642492]Overall I think ordinary shop girls would be up for it for a meal and a small tip.[/QUOTE]You think? Or did you actually try and succeed?
Thanks for the replies bruh's and I will look forward to submitting a trip report. In the interim, if anyone encounters or can share where some oilies or streets to peruse it would be much appreciated.
An Aussie was killed in a fire yesterday.
[URL]http://www.news.com.au/world/asia/australian-holidaymaker-among-five-dead-in-nightclub-fire-in-siem-reap-cambodia/story-fnh81fz8-1227127544119[/URL]
I just returned from almost a week in Siem Reap. I only went there for one reason.
Day 1.
Within an hour of arriving I was in one of the massage shops across the river (not the pub st side. In the market over there) and for $5 (discounted price) for an hour I was in a private room with a girl who accepted an extra $15 to lick my balls and bumhole. I can't believe I got this for the best part of an hour for just $20. It was not the usual 2 min of bum licking, it was full on. This girl was wild. She would do anything and I could do anything to her. In the end I asked her to get onto her hands and knees and masterbated onto her bum holes and it dribbles down over her pussy. These girls are mad with the risks they take. I'm clean and probably bad for making it happen but she should refuse because there are a lot of dirty diseased fuckers out there.
Day 2. More massage shops $7-9 an hour for an air conditioned room. Tips for handjobs range from $5 to $10. Trip to Mickeys / Mikeys. This is not a typical ladybar as some people seem to think. It is just filled with working girls who want to get a western dude with money. You just go in and sit on a bench seat up the back and order a drink. They will come over and sit with you. When you walk in (slowly) try to get an idea of which girl you want because you will have to have a reason to tell the first ugly one who sits with you to move off. Otherwise they will dominate you and no one else will come and you will be buy $2 drinks for a slapper.
Anyway, this night I got a slapper. The quality of them all is pretty low ranging from a 1 to a 6 or 7 if you are drunk. Rather than be stuck with her I got up and set a challenge for them all on the pool table. I soon had about 12 girls surrounding the table all trying to sink trick shots that I set up to win $10, $20 and eventually $50. The old fat hag won the $50. Fucker. I tipped the girl who had been sitting with me $10 because she had invested some time sitting with me stroking my dick. But no way was I going home with that.
One of them gave me her number during the evening and we all kind of made plans. I wanted to go to the waterfall the next day and somehow about 8 of them wanted to come with me (my looks or the expectation of a payoff. Not sure. You be the judge). Anyway she texted me at about 5 am and said she was still up and did I want to watch sunrise over ankor what. I got up and went with her. Waste of time. Its a great place but its the same at 5 am 6 am or noon in my mind. Its always stunning but no more stunning at 6 am. Anyway this girl was maybe a 6 (I'd forgotten how bad she was when she gave me her number. She has a mole and had not clipped the hair for 3-4 days. Appalling) so we were tuk tuking back after watching the sun come up and she started calling the other girls to say we were cominbg to pick them up to go to the waterfall but she was starting to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] me off. I can't spend my days with less than 8's, so I told her I was tired and wanted to sleep first. But OMG she said she wanted to come to the hotel with me. I said I was not paying for her but that she could lie beside me. She said OK but If we had sex I had to pay. I said no payments in the daytime. Nights only. I was clear. Anyway she fucking lay in my bed and slept for 5 hours while I was wide awake. She was naked but it was a pretty boring so eventually I woke her and said I needed to fuck her then she could sleep again. So we did it doggy style while she kept her eyes shut. I like that. And then she kept sleeping. I left her a note to lock the door behind her, padlocked my suitcase and left.
Day 3. Back to mickeys at about 7 when the girls are there. They all knew me from the night before (because of the money- they won about $150 without having to put out even tho that fat old one got $50 of that. So the fat old one comes up to me when I'm sitting with a 6 of 10 and wants to play me at pool. I said no betting because I can't play shit and because no way was a fat old thing getting more of my dosh. Anyway we played doubles and we lost against this fat fucking old hag thing 5 times in a row and she asks me for $2 x 5 = $10 . I said I was not betting but the fucking old hag thing keeps insisting that I pay. Over and over again. After about 6 demands and with our voices getting louder I told her that if she asked again I just leave. She asked. I left.
Later that night the fucking thing that slept all morning in my bed rings me and says come back to mickeys. I told her I would not because of the old hag thing. The girls all ganged up and made the old hag thing leave because she won $50 the night before and was being rude. So I went back and now the last fucking slept all day in my bed thing wants $20 for the sex we had (I had already given her $20 for taking me to see the sunset when I thought I was dropping her off. Before she insisted on coming back to my hotel) I told her I wasn't paying for daytime sex with her. And she got mad. In the end I just left the bar. No payment. A deal is a deal.
Mickys is fun but the quality is not there. The girls who look the best. One of them wanted $100 for the night when I asked her as I was walking out after this argument. I just laughed and said maybe Tomo.
The music at this place is 20 years old. The rolling stones and worse shit. The food is shit. The drinks are cheap. The girls are very average. But its fun.
Day 3. I found a.
Day 5 so today I found a girl in a chat thing like tango. I think she found me. They all contact you but be wary for the scamming dirty big hulking lady things with dicks.
So this girl was nice. She met me in a café and we chatted. I was so happy. Eventually we got to price and she wanted $50 overnight. It was now lunchtime. We went straight back to the room and did it. Then she had to go back to work and we met again in the evening. We hired a car and went to the waterfall. You have got to go. And we had dinner and lunch and we did it twice a day. What is the story with these girls. They all try to do it with no condom. So bad.
Anyway. I am a snoop and got her phone while she was in the shower. She was in contact with so many dudes and charges $100 for a session. But I was getting it for $50 a night. We fought a bit because she tried to pretend she was a bit more innocent than she was. She said she found the clients and the gave them to other girls. She does do this but she also takes a few for herself. $50 for taking a dude to a KTV place is better than $100 for a fuck I suppose so it makes sense that she would try to just get the commission.
Anyway she just wanted company and I am not the ugliest dude I guess and we had a lot of fun. I was pretty stupid because I lied to her and said I was leaving so I didn't have to see her anymore. I am not sure what to think but I fall for people and like helping them, but I also don't like liars. She was outside my hotel when I went out for dinner that night to see if I had actually left and she drove off when I came out but I saw her and got a tuk tuk to her work. She owns a business and is a pretty smart girl. I said goodbye and could see that I had hurt her. She had had fun and had wanted a friend and I turned out to be a snoopy rude bastard. I even deleted her from my phone. This girl deserves someone nice. Someone please look after her.
Day 7.
I returned to the massage shops and found an OMG-looking 19 yr old. $8 per hour massage x 2 hours = $16 discounted to $14 plus $20 for her to get completely naked. Was able to finger her and as she lay naked beside and on top of me. No sex no oral. $34 of heaven for 2 hours. This was a highlight.
Day 8.
A girl from a previous visit discovered I was in town. Not sure how. Told her I didn't want to pay because I had feelings for her. She said it was free as long as she could see me. Wanted no condom again. Wtf. Don't they know about diseases. Fucking help.
Siem Reap has it all and its very very cheap. I went to Bangkok the next day and of course I had fun. But to get a girl to lick my bum cost more than in Cambodia. I think there are more freak dudes in Thailand so the chance of picking up a disease from the girls is greater. The girl I met in Thailand the next day was insisting we have sex without a condom as we were in the taxi on the way back to my hotel. Fucking weird. And dangerous. Condoms might take away a lot of the pleasure but why are these girls all asking for unprotected sex.
I was reading the posts and just wanted to be sure, so, the Apsara Centrepole is not girl friendly? I got a good deal so I'm staying there in janurary, first time to SR, there to see angkor what then heading back to bkk. As a newbie tips or where should I go? MP could be okay if I can't take a girl back.
[QUOTE=George300;1653947]I was reading the posts and just wanted to be sure, so, the Apsara Centrepole is not girl friendly? I got a good deal so I'm staying there in janurary, first time to SR, there to see angkor what then heading back to bkk. As a newbie tips or where should I go? MP could be okay if I can't take a girl back.[/QUOTE]Hey Bud.
Stayed at the Royal Crown Hotel last February -- booked a Double room and had np having a guest--cost about $65 USD / night. 5 minute walk from Pub Street.
I'm planning a trip to Siem Reap in January and have questions on where to stay?
My budget is limited since I'm going to BKK too. I figure $20-25 a night for a Guest Friendly near Pub street?
I narrowed down choices to:
Alliance Villa.
Prohm Roth Guesthouse. Some reports that its GF but from many years ago?
My Home Villa. Many sites list as GF but its far from action.
Also found Bayon shadow but can anyone confirm its not charging $10 fee unlike Bayon Boutique which is next door?
I'm not sure if its coincidence or not but many hotels are named very similarly, I almost booked Dream Villa except it was not Angkor Dream Villa which is GF but so far away from action.
Anybody please confirm any hotels in my list since information changes quickly.
My wingman and I finally had the opportunity to check off Angkor Wat on our bucket list, after making the familiar stops in Bangkok. What others have said about Siem Reap is true: the girls are not as pretty as Thai women, and options are limited. Nevertheless we can confirm that boom-boom and sucky-sucky (in the local patois) are available, at very low prices. In fact everything is low-priced, including an excellent meal for two, amok and lak-lak, beers included, total tab $6 US. Look around and you may never pay more than $5 for a meal.
The three easy options for working girls in Siem Reap are Mikey's Night Bar, the massage places at the night market, and the streetwalkers at the Red Piano bar intersection. We did not experiment with asking tuk-tuk drivers to take us to the more remote brothels described by others in this thread, so cannot report on this fourth option. Streetwalkers are self-explanatory. As we imbibed a beer at Red Piano they were in evidence, starting around 8:30 pm.
The Red Piano bar is at the corner of Pub Street (Street 8) and Street 11. Triangle bar is across the street, in the triangle formed by Street 8, Street 11 and Sivatha Road, which runs somewhat diagonally. We saw four young and somewhat attractive streetwalkers standing around at this corner among the tuk-tuks and waiting for customers.
From the Red Piano, everything is easy to find. Mikey's is on Sivatha Road. If you leave Red Piano facing the Triangle bar, and turn right on Street 11, in a block or two you will hit Sivatha Road. Go right on Sivatha Road a block or two more and you will see Mikey's with two pool tables in the front. If you exit Mikey's and turn right on Sivatha Road back to the night market and remain on the Mikey's side of the road, you will find the street with the massage girls. They are impossible to miss. Everything is in a five-block radius so wander around, it will all become clear.
The Mikey bar girls were, as previously reported, older and not pretty. And that's putting it politely. There was one somewhat cute girl named Nylon or Rayon or something, whose opening request was $100 but quickly agreed to $40 and probably would have taken less had I pursued it.
My wingman decided to give the massage places a try. On the street in question, you will pass several establishments offering foot and body massages at prices starting from $1. Tourists are seated on outdoor reclining chairs indulging in this activity. Four to six girls will swarm you and offer you "aircon" room, I. E. A private room for sexual activities. When he reached the room, six girls joined him and he was able to dismiss the three ugliest. He ended up paying $40 to have two topless girls on either side while a third fully-clothed administered the BBBJ with CIM. If you only want one girl you will have to insist rather forcefully. They all looked rather young to me, but when asked each dutifully reported her age to my buddy as twenty, coincidentally.
I chatted up one streetwalker but did not close the deal. They were more attractive than either the Mikey's girls or the massage ladies, although one was of dubious gender.
BTW, the Frangipani Villas hotel is charming but not girl friendly. Downright girl-hostile, actually. Oh well.
Another tip is to take a tuk-tuk instead of a taxi to and from the airport - $6 to any centrally-located hotel, and quite pleasant, at least in December weather.
Hello,
yesterday was my third and final night in Siem Reap (my first time ever in Cambodia): I think I came prepared and made a decent job of managing expectations, so the overall experience wasn't too bad, but it definitely was NOT positive either.
It will take me a while to post a full report since I'm now headed to Thailand.
Ryo.
Looking forward to reading your report!
[QUOTE=RyoSaeba;1661713]Hello,
yesterday was my third and final night in Siem Reap (my first time ever in Cambodia): I think I came prepared and made a decent job of managing expectations, so the overall experience wasn't too bad, but it definitely was NOT positive either.
It will take me a while to post a full report since I'm now headed to Thailand.
Ryo.[/QUOTE]
Lame. Bayon Shadow is not girl friendly, they want to charge a $5 joiner fee even when booking a double room. I guess they don't the business from people are not just there for the ruins.
I got a response from KIRI hotel and they they are no longer girl friendly, they charge $5 Joiner fee. They used to be called hotel 89 and now Kiri, they are listed on other sites as GF but not so any more.
[QUOTE=NotNow;1662415]I got a response from KIRI hotel and they they are no longer girl friendly, they charge $5 Joiner fee. They used to be called hotel 89 and now Kiri, they are listed on other sites as GF but not so any more.[/QUOTE]The former 89 Hotel, which was guest friendly, is in a totally different part of town, and changed its name some 3 years ago to I'm MALIS Hotel. The name 89 was kept and can be seen alongside the nameplate for the Wooden Angkor Hotel in the same street.
[QUOTE=Bumholes1;1663271]The former 89 Hotel, which was guest friendly, is in a totally different part of town, and changed its name some 3 years ago to I'm MALIS Hotel. The name 89 was kept and can be seen alongside the nameplate for the Wooden Angkor Hotel in the same street.[/QUOTE]Apologies to Not Now.
A recent foray into Taphul Street revealed that indeed the former 89, which changed to I'm Malis, is now known as Kiri Hotel.
$5 - a small extra price to pay for some pussy.
[URL]http://www.angkordreamvilla.com/[/URL] is guest friendly. Decent rooms with aircon, good TV, good bed, fridge and bathroom starting at 15 bucks. Friendly owners and staff, 15 minutes walk to Pub Street (or $1 moto/$2 tuktuk)
My recent experience in Siem Reap: There's no full sex available in the night market, no matter how much you offer. However, some of the girls are experts in scamming you.
Walking from the Pub St side, you come across 4 massage places with girls wearing the following colour t-shirts: pink, red, yellow, orange.
Pink: On the corner with the main road. And a genuine massage place. No private rooms (just separated from other clients by a curtain), although if you go at a quiet time, they lock the door to give you a private room. I had a full body oil massage for $8 from a very talkative and fun young girl. Offered $20 extra for her to go topless but she refused. I went back on my final day to see the same girl though, and she allowed me to touch her boobs (from outside her clothing) at no extra cost, and gave me her number in case I returned to Siem Reap and wanted to see her.
Red: Some of the girls hassling men outside look [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord902][CodeWord902][/url]. I didn't want to explore this place as it all seemed a bit dodgy, and the stairs up to the private air-con rooms weren't well lit, it just seemed seedy.
Yellow: Avoid at all cost! Agreed outside to just have one girl, but 6 followed me up to the room and started ripping off my clothes. I put a stop to it and explained I just wanted 1 girl (2 maximum) but the others wouldn't leave and were very aggressive. Finally agreed to a 6-girl, 30 minute massage for $30, which I didn't really want. The room was dark and I could barely see any of them. Now they start tugging your * to get you excited, and then offer "extra services" but "don't tell our boss downstairs". Initially they wanted $150 for the 6 girls to go naked, which is ridiculous. Finally bargained down to $30 extra, so $60 in total. Now here's the clever bit, it's so dark in the room that you can't see the banknotes you're pulling out of your wallet, and I inadvertently handed over an extra $100. Once the money was handed over, only one girl took her t-shirt off (misunderstanding sir, you pay us for only one girl). And then refused to take off her bra (you give us lower offer sir, cannot be naked). So ended up paying $160 for 6 girls to give me an extremely poor HJ in the dark. Lesson learnt.
Orange: A bit more friendly, they tried the hard sell up to 6 girls, but I managed to get 2 girls for 60 minutes for $60. They only stripped down to underwear but I could touch them from outside, and got BBBJ from one of the girls (no CIM). Second round was a very oily HJ and it was pretty good value, being a well-lit room where I could watch the girls.
Hope this helps others a little!
[QUOTE=Seattle29;1667531]My recent experience in Siem Reap: There's no full sex available in the night market, no matter how much you offer. However, some of the girls are experts in scamming you.[/QUOTE]I just spent over an hour writing a detailed report, which apparently disappeared into the ether as I was auto-logged off at some point, unbeknownst to me.
In a nutshell: I beg to differ with Seattle29. Just a few hours ago, I screwed one of the red-shirted MP women in a "private room" for $23. She tried to talk me up to $50, but I had only $23 in my wallet (in mixed USD, Thai baht, and Cambodian riel), and said "this or nothing. " She took it.
Unless my earlier attempted post re-appears from the ether, that's it from me tonight.
More to cum.
[QUOTE=AnonYMouse;1667758]I just spent over an hour writing a detailed report, which apparently disappeared into the ether as I was auto-logged off at some point, unbeknownst to me.[/QUOTE]Check the box next to 'Remember me?' when you check in. You won't be logged out then.
If you're writing a long report you're staying on the same page all the time and at some point (after 10-15 minutes I think) the forum logs you out because you seem to be inactive.
Beside that it's always wise to make a copy of your report before you hit 'Upload Report'. Or write it in Word or a similar application instead of on line.
[QUOTE=Seattle29;1667531]Hope this helps others a little![/QUOTE]Yes, thanks for the detailed report and the warnings. It shows once again that SR is a place for tourists and not for mongers. That was the case 10 years ago already and apparently it still is.
Gentlemen,
This is my first significant report. Please let me know how I can improve it, so that I can file better reports in future.
This is also a tale of someone who is quite new to mongering.
I wasn't a virgin when I married, but I might as well have been. Then I was happily and monogamously married for 25+ years. When my wife passed away unexpectedly in 2012, I was heartbroken. I sold everything and semi-retired to a cheap & interesting destination: Chiang Mai, Thailand.
Then, one day in late 2014 — after being celibate for two years, including six months in Thailand — I woke up with a particularly impressive erection. I decided make proper use of it. There was a massage parlor right across the street, so. I had my first sex in more than two years, and my first-ever sex with a hooker.
It was maaahvelous, dahling. I held a beautiful woman in my arms, fucked her hard for half an hour, and came like a freight train. For $30. What's not to like?
Actually, she wasn't beautiful. Quite over the hill, actually. And the brothel was a shit hole. And I didn't cum. But it was still marvelous. I expected to feel cheap, dirty, and despicable. But I didn't. Quite the contrary. I really felt quite good about the whole thing. I felt good about myself. I felt good about her. I felt good. It was thirty bucks extremely well-spent.
So I started banging a hooker ever week or two. As I said, I'm semi-retired, so I can't fling money around with gay abandon (or even straight abandon). I couldn't afford to hire Bangkok's Finest Escorts on a regular basis. And if you can't afford the best champagne, it's probably a good idea to avoid tasting it, and to stick with beer instead. Beer, I can afford.
However, I was already becoming disenchanted with Thailand. Chiang Mai felt like a suburb of San Francisco. Thailand is a developed country. It may not be a *rich* country, but it's a developed country. I wanted to go somewhere with more of a frontier edge while I was still young-ish. And where my rather limited income might seem, locally, like a large income, to potentially attract a new wife that was young enough to help me start a new family. I had liked being married. I had liked being a dad. I was good in both roles. I wanted to do that again.
And I thought that I might enjoy screwing some hookers while looking elsewhere for the next Miss Right.
After some online research, I discovered Cambodia right next door. Siem Reap for starters.
With that background out of the way, here begins the report on what I've found in Siem Reap. I've tried to provide actionable information — information that you can use to get laid efficiently and inexpensively.
My first mongering stop, on the evening of the 12th, was the massage parlors near the Night Market. Head to GPS coordinates 13°21'19.9"and 103°51'11.4"E. Google Maps doesn't name this street, although it may be an extension of Street 7. The unnamed street runs east & west between Sivatha Road on the east, and Bugs Street (known farther south as Angkor Night Market Street) on the west.
You can't miss the massage girls. They run right out in the street, wave a laminated menu of "proper" massage options in your face, and offer "air con room" with nudges and winks. As Seattle29 accurately described, the different parlor's girls wear different colored shirts. So far, I have attempted to negotiate "boom boom" (fucking) with yellow, red, and orange-shirted women. In all cases, I select the woman I want and invite her to negotiate further in said "air con room. " I have had no success with the orange-shirted or yellow-shirted women. Indeed, tonight (Wednesday 14th), the mama-san-behaving yellow-shirt woman — after trying diligently to get me to settle for a hand-job — sent a henchman to lead me to the red-shirted parlor. But I get ahead of myself.
On the 12th, I selected a cute, dimpled, Apsara-breasted, 24-ish-looking woman with the working name "May May. " Negotiating in the "air-con room," I showed her the $23 in my wallet — a mélange of US, Thai, and Cambodian bills — and insisted that it was all I had. She tried to convince me to go to an ATM to bring her $50, but thanks to this forum I knew better. And she settled for the $23 (and I got the strong impression that she would have settled for $20). Thirty minutes of delightful romping ensued. The last ten minutes were improved by the arrival, outside the thin sliding door of the "air con room," of what I later realized were middle-aged NGO ladies, who would have been shocked — shocked! — to discover that prostitution was occurring in a massage parlor. May May giggled and whispered that we had to be very very quiet. It reminded me of screwing my first serious girlfriend while her parents slept upstairs. Which was quite exciting. May May was very enthusiastic — theatrical, entertaining, and humorous. She was fun. She must be earning a mint. However, I found her theatrics to be somewhat distracting from the matter at hand, so although I enjoyed myself very much, I did not cum. Sigh. I had always cum with my wife, but had not yet cum with a hooker. They were fun, and I enjoyed them, but they were not, ultimately, able to get me across to "finish. ".
Hence, as I wanted back towards the Jasmine Lodge (more on which below), I decided to check out brothels that this forum had suggested might exist by Smiley Guesthouse. I can confirm from first-dick experience that they do, indeed, exist, along an unnamed alley that runs parallel to Taphul Road, north and south, right past the front of Smiley east-facing gated entrance. To the south of Smiley, the alley dead-ends in a cluster of "chicken farm" tin shack rooms. To the north of Smiley's, this "Chicken Farm Alley" runs into the east-west oriented Oum Khun Street. The northern entrance to the alley, on the south side of Oum Khun Street, is at GPS coordinates 13°21'41.5"and 103°51'12.2"E.
Among the aged, worn-out hookers at the south end of Chicken Farm Alley, was the aptly stage-named "Mom. " Actually, she wasn't old enough to be MY mom, but she was definitely somebody's mom. I fucked her. She was surprisingly OK. Not great, by any means, but OK. For $15. I didn't cum, as per usual.
But hey. I fucked Mom. Another item scratched off my bucket list.
From two years of celibacy to two hookers in one day. Some would call that "a descent into the abyss. " I call it "progress. ".
On the next day, the 13th, I decided to check out the north end of Chicken Farm Alley. On closer inspection, it, too, was full of used-up hookers, except for one damsel who looked entirely out of place. Her face was perhaps a 3, on the 1-10 scale with 1 being hideous, but below the neck she was a solid 8 or even 9 — a Thai-looking slim body with ample Khmer breasts. Unsurprisingly, the mama-san was not willing to accept $15 for the damsel's services, although the other (much older) women there insisted that they would accept that price. Since there were no other potential customers around, I tried to strengthen my negotiating position by starting to walk towards the southern shacks, but the mama-san called my bluff and waved me on. Damn. I continued south, and selected one of the least-haggard of the older women in the southern shacks, but she was abysmal — much less OK than Mom.
I returned to the northern shacks and surrendered, paying mama-san the requested $20 for a half-hour with the damsel. Her body was excellent, with a pussy as tight as a rubber band. However, she was not the least bit happy about having to entertain a farang, especially once she saw my dick. Which is of average farang size, but that means that it is 50% larger than the Cambodian average. She wasn't going to stop me, but she was apparently determined to ensure that I didn't enjoy myself. That, too, was unexpectedly exciting. Between her tight pussy, her rockin' body, and her dog-in-the-manger antics, I came inside a hooker for the first time. Aaahhhhh. Excellent.
Again, two hookers in one day. They were not even close to being top-drawer talent, but still, from a standing start just a few months ago, and given my limited means, I figure I'm doing all right.
This evening, the 14th, I returned to the massage parlors near the Night Market. Earlier in the day, the older yellow-shirted mama-san-acting woman had tried to convince me to take her upstairs with a bright young thing in tow. I had declined at the time, because I had business to attend to, but said I'the return, so I did. Once upstairs, she insisted that her parlor could not do "boom boom. " At first, she tried to tell me that the police suppressed it, and that only hand-jobs were allowed, but I'the already screwed the red-shirted May May, so I knew that that wasn't true. Eventually I walked out and got some dinner across the street, in full sight of the yellow-shirt parlor women. When I passed by on my way home, out comes yellow-shirted mama-san, saying "follow this man, he'll take you to boom-boom. " Where did he lead me? To the red-shirt parlor where I'the banged May May. This time, however, a woman stage-named "Anna" had already been arranged for me while I ate (unbeknownst to me). Anna had the most beautiful face I'the seen yet in Cambodia, and she, like May May, accepted $23 when presented with an otherwise-empty wallet. Another happy half-hour ensued. She tried to make me cum in the first 5 minutes, and seemed surprised when I didn't. One of the nice things about not cumming reliably with hookers is that I end up fucking them for every moment of the allotted time. Once Anna realized that she wasn't going to get me off right away, she took instruction well (rhythmically loosening on insertion and tightening on withdrawal), which ALMOST got me off.
I gave the yellow-shirted mama-san and her henchman a couple of bucks each for making the arrangements for me. I'm a die-hard cheapskate, and a Mom-fucker, but I pay my debts.
Tomorrow, or perhaps the next day, I'll return to the northern chicken house to see if the damsel is still available. That could be entertaining.
As to the Jasmine Lodge: It is officially girl-friendly, however, its guests seem to be 60% middle-aged NGO ladies, and 30% fresh-faced college girls volunteering. And 10% sexpats (among whom am I, lately). I cannot imagine walking a tiny 22-year old Khmer woman past their glares — or rather, I can imagine it all too well. Hence, I have not yet explored the "take away" scene here.
Which reminds me: I forgot to mention Mickey's Night Bar. It seems to have a mixed reputation on this forum (but then, gents, don't we all? I visited it on my first night, and wasn't impressed by anyone there except the young woman stage-named "Map" (if I heard her right). I would have screwed her in a New York minute, except that she insisted on $50 for the hour (and I was unable to talk her down), and I did not want to do the Walk of Shame at the Jasmine Lodge. (Although it beats me what those NGO ladies and fresh-faced college girls have to be ashamed of.).
There you go: five hookers in three days.
I'm about to shift from the $600/ month Jasmine Lodge ($20/ night) to a $50/ month Khmer-style room. That'll free up $550/ month — $18/ day — which at local prices, is a short-time hooker every day.
I don't think that I'll keep that up for long, though. I burn through new hobbies quickly, and I'm sure that I'll get bored with this one soon enough.
Until then, gentlemen.
More to cum.
[QUOTE=AnonYMouse;1669092]Gentlemen,
This is my first significant report. Please let me know how I can improve it, so that I can file better reports in future.
This is also a tale of someone who is quite new to mongering.
I wasn't a virgin when I married, but I might as well have been. Then I was happily and monogamously married for 25+ years. When my wife passed away unexpectedly in 2012, I was heartbroken. I sold everything and semi-retired to a cheap & interesting destination: Chiang Mai, Thailand.
Then, one day in late 2014 after being celibate for two years, including six months in Thailand I woke up with a particularly impressive erection. I decided make proper use of it. There was a massage parlor right across the street, so. I had my first sex in more than two years, and my first-ever sex with a hooker.
It was maaahvelous, dahling. I held a beautiful woman in my arms, fucked her hard for half an hour, and came like a freight train. For $30. What's not to like?
Actually, she wasn't beautiful. Quite over the hill, actually. And the brothel was a shit hole. And I didn't cum. But it was still marvelous. I expected to feel cheap, dirty, and despicable. But I didn't. Quite the contrary. I really felt quite good about the whole thing. I felt good about myself. I felt good about her. I felt good. It was thirty bucks extremely well-spent.
So I started banging a hooker ever week or two. As I said, I'm semi-retired, so I can't fling money around with gay abandon (or even straight abandon). I couldn't afford to hire Bangkok's Finest Escorts on a regular basis. And if you can't afford the best champagne, it's probably a good idea to avoid tasting it, and to stick with beer instead. Beer, I can afford.
However, I was already becoming disenchanted with Thailand. Chiang Mai felt like a suburb of San Francisco. Thailand is a developed country. It may not be a *rich* country, but it's a developed country. I wanted to go somewhere with more of a frontier edge while I was still young-ish. And where my rather limited income might seem, locally, like a large income, to potentially attract a new wife that was young enough to help me start a new family. I had liked being married. I had liked being a dad. I was good in both roles. I wanted to do that again.
And I thought that I might enjoy screwing some hookers while looking elsewhere for the next Miss Right.
After some online research, I discovered Cambodia right next door. Siem Reap for starters.
With that background out of the way, here begins the report on what I've found in Siem Reap. I've tried to provide actionable information information that you can use to get laid efficiently and inexpensively.
My first mongering stop, on the evening of the 12th, was the massage parlors near the Night Market. Head to GPS coordinates 1321'19.9"and 10351'11.4"E. Google Maps doesn't name this street, although it may be an extension of Street 7. The unnamed street runs east & west between Sivatha Road on the east, and Bugs Street (known farther south as Angkor Night Market Street) on the west.
You can't miss the massage girls. They run right out in the street, wave a laminated menu of "proper" massage options in your face, and offer "air con room" with nudges and winks. As Seattle29 accurately described, the different parlor's girls wear different colored shirts. So far, I have attempted to negotiate "boom boom" (fucking) with yellow, red, and orange-shirted women. In all cases, I select the woman I want and invite her to negotiate further in said "air con room. " I have had no success with the orange-shirted or yellow-shirted women. Indeed, tonight (Wednesday 14th), the mama-san-behaving yellow-shirt woman after trying diligently to get me to settle for a hand-job sent a henchman to lead me to the red-shirted parlor. But I get ahead of myself.
On the 12th, I selected a cute, dimpled, Apsara-breasted, 24-ish-looking woman with the working name "May May. " Negotiating in the "air-con room," I showed her the $23 in my wallet a mlange of US, Thai, and Cambodian bills and insisted that it was all I had. She tried to convince me to go to an ATM to bring her $50, but thanks to this forum I knew better. And she settled for the $23 (and I got the strong impression that she would have settled for $20). Thirty minutes of delightful romping ensued. The last ten minutes were improved by the arrival, outside the thin sliding door of the "air con room," of what I later realized were middle-aged NGO ladies, who would have been shocked shocked! to discover that prostitution was occurring in a massage parlor. May May giggled and whispered that we had to be very very quiet. It reminded me of screwing my first serious girlfriend while her parents slept upstairs. Which was quite exciting. May May was very enthusiastic theatrical, entertaining, and humorous. She was fun. She must be earning a mint. However, I found her theatrics to be somewhat distracting from the matter at hand, so although I enjoyed myself very much, I did not cum. Sigh. I had always cum with my wife, but had not yet cum with a hooker. They were fun, and I enjoyed them, but they were not, ultimately, able to get me across to "finish. ".
Hence, as I wanted back towards the Jasmine Lodge (more on which below), I decided to check out brothels that this forum had suggested might exist by Smiley Guesthouse. I can confirm from first-dick experience that they do, indeed, exist, along an unnamed alley that runs parallel to Taphul Road, north and south, right past the front of Smiley east-facing gated entrance. To the south of Smiley, the alley dead-ends in a cluster of "chicken farm" tin shack rooms. To the north of Smiley's, this "Chicken Farm Alley" runs into the east-west oriented Oum Khun Street. The northern entrance to the alley, on the south side of Oum Khun Street, is at GPS coordinates 1321'41.5"and 10351'12.2"E.
Among the aged, worn-out hookers at the south end of Chicken Farm Alley, was the aptly stage-named "Mom. " Actually, she wasn't old enough to be MY mom, but she was definitely somebody's mom. I fucked her. She was surprisingly OK. Not great, by any means, but OK. For $15. I didn't cum, as per usual.
But hey. I fucked Mom. Another item scratched off my bucket list.
From two years of celibacy to two hookers in one day. Some would call that "a descent into the abyss. " I call it "progress. ".
On the next day, the 13th, I decided to check out the north end of Chicken Farm Alley. On closer inspection, it, too, was full of used-up hookers, except for one damsel who looked entirely out of place. Her face was perhaps a 3, on the 1-10 scale with 1 being hideous, but below the neck she was a solid 8 or even 9 a Thai-looking slim body with ample Khmer breasts. Unsurprisingly, the mama-san was not willing to accept $15 for the damsel's services, although the other (much older) women there insisted that they would accept that price. Since there were no other potential customers around, I tried to strengthen my negotiating position by starting to walk towards the southern shacks, but the mama-san called my bluff and waved me on. Damn. I continued south, and selected one of the least-haggard of the older women in the southern shacks, but she was abysmal much less OK than Mom.
I returned to the northern shacks and surrendered, paying mama-san the requested $20 for a half-hour with the damsel. Her body was excellent, with a pussy as tight as a rubber band. However, she was not the least bit happy about having to entertain a farang, especially once she saw my dick. Which is of average farang size, but that means that it is 50% larger than the Cambodian average. She wasn't going to stop me, but she was apparently determined to ensure that I didn't enjoy myself. That, too, was unexpectedly exciting. Between her tight pussy, her rockin' body, and her dog-in-the-manger antics, I came inside a hooker for the first time. Aaahhhhh. Excellent.
Again, two hookers in one day. They were not even close to being top-drawer talent, but still, from a standing start just a few months ago, and given my limited means, I figure I'm doing all right.
This evening, the 14th, I returned to the massage parlors near the Night Market. Earlier in the day, the older yellow-shirted mama-san-acting woman had tried to convince me to take her upstairs with a bright young thing in tow. I had declined at the time, because I had business to attend to, but said I'the return, so I did. Once upstairs, she insisted that her parlor could not do "boom boom. " At first, she tried to tell me that the police suppressed it, and that only hand-jobs were allowed, but I'the already screwed the red-shirted May May, so I knew that that wasn't true. Eventually I walked out and got some dinner across the street, in full sight of the yellow-shirt parlor women. When I passed by on my way home, out comes yellow-shirted mama-san, saying "follow this man, he'll take you to boom-boom. " Where did he lead me? To the red-shirt parlor where I'the banged May May. This time, however, a woman stage-named "Anna" had already been arranged for me while I ate (unbeknownst to me). Anna had the most beautiful face I'the seen yet in Cambodia, and she, like May May, accepted $23 when presented with an otherwise-empty wallet. Another happy half-hour ensued. She tried to make me cum in the first 5 minutes, and seemed surprised when I didn't. One of the nice things about not cumming reliably with hookers is that I end up fucking them for every moment of the allotted time. Once Anna realized that she wasn't going to get me off right away, she took instruction well (rhythmically loosening on insertion and tightening on withdrawal), which ALMOST got me off.
I gave the yellow-shirted mama-san and her henchman a couple of bucks each for making the arrangements for me. I'm a die-hard cheapskate, and a Mom-fucker, but I pay my debts.
Tomorrow, or perhaps the next day, I'll return to the northern chicken house to see if the damsel is still available. That could be entertaining.
As to the Jasmine Lodge: It is officially girl-friendly, however, its guests seem to be 60% middle-aged NGO ladies, and 30% fresh-faced college girls volunteering. And 10% sexpats (among whom am I, lately). I cannot imagine walking a tiny 22-year old Khmer woman past their glares or rather, I can imagine it all too well. Hence, I have not yet explored the "take away" scene here.
Which reminds me: I forgot to mention Mickey's Night Bar. It seems to have a mixed reputation on this forum (but then, gents, don't we all? I visited it on my first night, and wasn't impressed by anyone there except the young woman stage-named "Map" (if I heard her right). I would have screwed her in a New York minute, except that she insisted on $50 for the hour (and I was unable to talk her down), and I did not want to do the Walk of Shame at the Jasmine Lodge. (Although it beats me what those NGO ladies and fresh-faced college girls have to be ashamed of.).
There you go: five hookers in three days.
I'm about to shift from the $600/ month Jasmine Lodge ($20/ night) to a $50/ month Khmer-style room. That'll free up $550/ month $18/ day which at local prices, is a short-time hooker every day.
I don't think that I'll keep that up for long, though. I burn through new hobbies quickly, and I'm sure that I'll get bored with this one soon enough.
Until then, gentlemen.
More to cum.[/QUOTE]Interesting report Mr Mouse.
I will be making one of my regular visits to SR next week, and will certainly have a look at the alley adjacent to Taphul. There used to be girls actually on Taphul, lingering in the entrance lane to Smileys.
[QUOTE=AnonYMouse;1669092]Until then, gentlemen. More to cum.[/QUOTE]These may be the massage places you were referring to as below. It's been 3 years for me and I can't remember every street. The report number is #722. The link is below. [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1806-Siem-Reap&p=1557418&viewfull=1[/URL]#post1557418 Happy mongering.
Sir, you're on your way to gainful employment as a travel writer. Dunno where or when but I certainly enjoyed your spin. I may be in your hood if you survive another month. Hope to buy you a drink and hear your tales. Or is that tails?
Cheers!
Most of my opinions and comments reflect and are the result of me being a tourist in town for a few days only, no Cambodian spoken.
It was my first time in SR, and I greatly enjoyed my evenings about town, which is a lot livelier than I expected, with nice restaurants, bars and boutiques.
Regarding our hobby, after having read 40 pages worth of ISG reports I was ready for slim pickings and very average quality at inflated prices, and thats what I got. That I knew what was in store, however, didnt help much: the overall experience was just about acceptable.
A couple of disclaimers first: I voluntarily limited my possible sources of girls, and knowing I was heading to Pattaya it was difficult to avoid thinking of greener pastures and making preemptive comparisons, which undoubtedly kind of discouraged me a bit. And thats on me.
I decided before landing in Siem Reap I didnt want to try the cheap brothels, nor any freelancer I might meet in the Pub Street bars. That meant I had to rely on KTV-style venues and massage parlors.
The [b]massage parlors of the Night Market[/b], as reported recently, definitely offer happy ending. The problem was that a hand job isn't worth wasting a cum shot in south-east Asia (my opinion), while those girls that offered BJs or more I didnt find attractive enough.
So, all I had left were the KTVs reviewed on this thread: Top Town and Sok San. But I tried a few different tuk tuk drivers + my hotel concierge, and no one could take me to Sok San (if it still exists), or any other big brothel beside Top Town.
[size=4][red]TOP TOWN[/red][/size]
Seemed like everyone knew it, as I heard it mentioned at different times in different settings, including during daytime around the temples.
Its a 5-minute tuk tuk ride from the town, the last 500 meters or so along a dirt road, but once you get there theres very little doubt you reached your intended destination, as you can gather from a couple of photos I attached at the end of this post.
The first evening I showed up very early, it wasnt even 9pm yet, and I must have been one of the very first customers, because there were about 20 girls waiting and ready to be picked.
I was greeted warmly and led to a karaoke room, where all the ladies quickly assembled; I asked the mamasan a couple of questions (all girls were Cambodian, price 50/70 dollars for short/long time) therefore the only thing left to do was choose. Out of the group about 5 stood out a bit looks wise, so I picked the 2 that smiled the most to sit with me and have a quick chat. Five minutes later I made my choice, paid the 50 directly to the mamasan, and left.
As reported here, the girl will follow your tuk tuk on her own bike or moto-taxi.
The second evening I arrived around 11pm and there were only four girls to choose from, but again no haggling over price and everything went smooth during the selection process.
So what about the girls?
# 1 was a 7,5 out 10 dressed, and 6,5 naked; talkative, not too shy or starfishy, ok with french kissing and covered bj, but nothing to write home about. Service might have improved if I had selected her for long time, as I had the impression she was getting warmer by the minute, but having to wake up very early for the visits didnt allow that.
# 2 was about the same in looks, very tender and caring, but also very inexperienced and shy.
The third night I was so tired form the day activities and the general lack of sleep that I barely made it to my room before crashing to bed, so no bum bum.
[size=4][red]accommodation[/red][/size]
After a some research I opted for [b]Wooden Angkor Hotel[/b], which:
- is girlfriendly
- is a 2-minutes tuk tuk ride from Pub Street
- has wi-fi
- has staff that answered very quickly to my mails
There were cheaper options nearby, but none I could find that offered all the above.
[url]http://www.woodenangkorhotel.com/[/url]
[size=4][red]eating and drinking[/red][/size]
Of the 3 restaurants I tried, [b]The Square 24[/b] was, all things considered, the best: expensive yes, but good food in a cool setting, with attentive service.
[url]http://www.thesquare24.com/[/url]
For cocktail lovers, developing countries are generally exasperating because most drinks are poorly executed or excessively bastardized even in upmarket venues, but they can also be extremely rewarding when you find professionals who serve real exotic stuff.
Siem Riep in my experience is no different: even the simplest rum&coke or gin&tonic were at times badly mangled. On the contrary, for professional mixes,
- [b]Miss Wong[/b] [url]http://www.misswong.net/[/url]
and
- [b]Asana[/b] [url]http://www.asana-cambodia.com/[/url]
are reliable places to go.
[size=4][red]transportation[/red][/size]
Basic tuk tuk fare in and around the town center is 1 dollar, while the two times I took and kept one for the TOP TOWN return trip, I paid respectively 4 and 5 dollars.
[i][b]As always, a big THANK YOU goes to all the brothers who posted good info during the years, and especially to the ones who replied to my personal messages: your help was invaluable.[/b][/i]
Ryo
[QUOTE=LukeSkywalker;1583173]You don't need to go to bars for girls.
There should be many motobike drivers hanging out in front of your hotel. Ask your hotel door man to recommend one, and take his name and his pictures for security.
Tell him you want to find pretty girls for Boom Boom long time. He will take you to many places near town center where you can check out the girls and make your selection.
I have gone this route many times in Siem Reap and Pnom Penh with good results and no problem. Just make sure you know who the drivers are in case something bad happens.[/QUOTE]I thought I was Vader's only son.
Great report Ryo. I booked an upscale hotel fairly out of pub street. I hope they will allow lady friends.
Took Mekong Express Bus from PNH ($13), stayed at Angkor Orchid Central Hotel situated walking distance to places of interest as Pub street Hard Rock Cafe and Hip Hop disco. Nice, clean, quiet hotel, but not particularly GF; more like a family place. First indicattion were the hotel rules placed at the rooms door stating that there will be a joiner fee of $20.
As outlined in the forum extensivly action in SR is slim, well my main interest was to visit Angkor what anyway. So please do not expect too much regarding our hobby.
MP.
One afternoon I went to have a look at the massage places in a side street close to Mikes. Well, they are easy to figure out because within seconds I was surrounded by 3 ladies pleading their services. I am not really interested to get more than a massage at a MP, but they would not take a no as an answer and reduced to $3 for 30 minutes massage. OK, I agreed just for couriosity. Well, some unexpected things happened but no sex. I was escorted to an airconditioned room parted by solid walls not reaching to the ceiling. Inside the room the lady insisted I even drop my underpants. Then 2 other ladies entered what I was not comfortable with because too difficult to keep en eye on my belongings. Well, they were quite persistant and only left until I explained that either they leave or I will do so. After some minutes of crap massage the upsell began, starting with offering a handjob for $20. No thank you, I am not interested in extras and for sure not in a lame HJ. She offered to take off shirt and bra. No thanxs. More lines of no customer, no money while striking my dick and offering BJ $50. Sorry for $50 I can get LT with bum bum. To make it short, she went down to $10 HJ or $30 BJ until I told her to stop talking and finish the massage left paying $5 with couriosity satisfied.
Mikes.
I would it describe as a nice place to watch the show, most ladies I would rate below 6 being older but friendly. Don't expect too much english as almost everywhere I went. HM depending on the night maybe 3 out of about 15 were a little bit better looking 7's but hardened with a lot of milage. Finally choose Apon, 25 yo no kids 160 cm with a dirty laugh and I would guess quite new to the business. It was still early, after some small talk I did the interview explaining her my expectations and finally asked about her for LT till breakfast, BBBJ, CFS at least 2 romps. No answer sooo it is up to me? Yes! Ok, I usually pay $40 LT, but because at Mikes there is no BF you will get $50. Maybe $40 would have been enough, but she was the only lady I was interested in and as you will see it would have been meaningless anyway. We stayed a little longer as I figured better to proceed to my hotel when the night shift is working and it is less busy. Despite the limited selection Mikes is reasonable priced, Apon was slowly sipping on her orange juice only asking for a drink for her friend, the bill was below $10. Returning to the hotel at about 11 pm she showed her I'd and I was asked for $7 joiner fee. I kindly explained that I had booked for 2 persons and therefore will not pay a joinerfee. Further details of the hotel policy were explained and I just told them I am not willing to discuss that now and will do so tomorrow with the managment, we went to the room after maybe 5 minutes (I'd kept, will be given back on her leaving after making sure everything is OK).
After relaxing and enjoying the AC Apon went to shower first, then a little foreplay, BBBJ I would call GF-style applied in a caring and loving way but not deepthroat or very experienced. CFS started by her riding me but after that she left the initiative more or less to me for the next 30 minutes without any bullshit or complaints until I came. Then you guessed it, shower, relaxing with some tv and small talk until at about 1 am she started telling me she wants to go home. I told her NO, we agreed on LT until breakfast. She continued begging I told her just give me the reason why you want to leave now till the end both parties stayed calm and kind her explaining only that if she had told me she wants ST only, I would not have taken her yes you got it darling. Reason being at my hometown I can easily get ST for 25 difference being that it would be 20 minutes only. So an extended ST does not seem that good value for me, while I like my morning wood being taken care of so LT with maybe a session in between is what I prefer. Well back to Apon, she finally left, after me explaining I would only pay ST then, with $30 AI put next to her belongings her asking if I would come to see her tomorrow and maybe she would do LT then.
Well, the next day it was ST only again, but offering 2 bum bum till 1 am. Sorry no. Conclusion she might have a boyfriend waiting her what she denied when asked.
Next day I also discussed the joinerfee issue with the assistant manager oh the hotel in a friendly and kind way (as you know, any other way would lead to nothing in asia). He explained the hotel policy and that it is for my safety and the fee is only applied if you have a cambodian guest that is not checked in upon arrival. I answered I am fine with everything regarding my safety and even with any hotel policy because that it is not my business. My point is I booked the hotel with expedia and there (as at any other site is a section where the hotel rules are explained. Further that I am aware that at some upscale places joinerfees are applied, but I am not staying at a 4 or 5 star place and that I would be surprised if any of the 10 hotels close to his place would apply a joinerfee as on my travels through asia and Cambodia this did not happen. I think I made a point although he did not budge and finally told him that I would pay and they might consider explaining the joinerfee in the internet. End of story 2 hours later I got a telefone call that he had talked to the manager and for me no joinerfee would be applied case closed, I tipped $10 at the reception on check out.
Other places.
One night went to triangle lounge upstairs with lifeband playing, you won't miss it, between pubstreet and Sivatha. Took a seat facing the stage at a table for two and had to wait like 10 minutes without being able to place my order until a chubby late twenties blond in a sexy dress arrived; after a look around asking me, if I am fine with her sitting at my table. Sure, (how this will be going on?) she talked a little bit, me understanding only a few words for the music being loud and her english small, but I think I heard beer and no bum bum. WTF could you figure out what she was telling me? OK 1 minute later the waiter magically arrived with a big bottle of beer I told him I want a coke but he only listened to her talking the local language and brought another glass. I kindly explained I do not drink alcohol and want a coke. Well the usual lines were exchanged without me being interested in her, dividing my attention between her and the stage. More no bum bum mumblings who would believe that although it is so obvious finally her parting after paying her bill explaining it is too hot and she has to find another seat. I will never find out what would have happened, but I think this was kind of a scam with the waiter being involved, who might even had called her, that a single prey has arrived. HM I suspect this will have ended expensive and with the no bum bum lines probably with the cops involved accusing me of r8 pe. So be careful!
At the side walk next to the river close to the Night Maket were some FLs sitting alone or in small group of girls, BUT mixed with regular girls please keep this in mind. As you would expect only basic looking, I had a smoke and watched the scene for a while when one was picked up. I did not spot the Fls close to Red Piano although I was offered a massage on pubsteet. After the experience at triangle lounge I checked out Hard Rock Cafe another night, but obviously no action. Had a look at Hip Hop disco that is close by, very busy already at 11 pm, did not go inside, lots of locals both male and female. Being 55 yo not my cup of tea anyway.
Summary best place to go is Mikes if you go there with low expectations, you will get laid for sure, expect the unexpected and have a look around.
Have fun. Next stop Sihanoukville.
S.
Has anyone tried the fannies hanging in the dark by the canal at evenings / nights?
My friend who has lived here for 10 years told me they go for $5 with Khmer men and $10 with foreigners.
Just be careful he told me but could not specify himself HM.
You must be his illegitimate offspring.
[QUOTE=LukeSkywalker;1681212]I thought I was Vader's only son.[/QUOTE]
Arrived in Siem Reap a few days ago and my experiences mirror what other posters have noted about the town. It's a nice enough place and the AngkorWat ruins are amazing to see and it's not possible to visit all of them in a few days.
However, the night life is not all that great. The main Pub Street area and night markets appears to mainly exist to fleece backpacker tourists and upscale market adventurers. I noticed only a few potential SW's near the corner of the Red Piano and 11 Street but nothing in the clubs such as Hip Hop located on the opposite side of the river across from the Pub Street area. Mikey's had woeful looking ladies and the massage parlors had an assortment of unattractive fat ladies barking at me as I walked by. I was also constantly pestered by tuk tuk drivers.
However, I stopped in one massage place called Cool Sense directly next to the infamous Mikey's as there were several cute girls working there (at the massage place). I selected a very cute girl who gave me a nice massage but it soon became apparent there were no other offers forthcoming. Towards the end of the massage, I mentioned that I planned to visit AngkorWat the next day but due to her poor English skills, the girl thought I was INVITING her to Angkor Wat with me. I decided to go along with it anyway as it is free for Cambodians so no additional cost to me except the tuk-tuk to the site, which I would pay for anyway. I also asked her to meet me after work, which she agreed to do and she asked to bring another friend from work who spoke good English. We met outside my hotel as she did not want to come into the hotel lobby.
I quickly discovered her friend spoke no English. Apparently, the English speaking girl, if she ever existed, was busy. So we went to the Red Piano for drinks whereupon I discovered this girl and her friend also did not have I D's. Any chance of further encounters went out the window with this news. And the other girl said she was hungry but fortunately the restaurant had stopped serving so got out of any further expense and bid them adieu after they drank some fruit juice as they did not drink alcohol. I ran into again later in the evening at HipHop but I did meet them both the following morning and took them to Angkor Wat for their first visit but by the end of the morning, I thought that I must have selected the only two virgins in all of Cambodia for company.
Feeling frustrated, I decided to try Top Town as it has been mentioned in prior reports. I arraigned for my Tuk-tuk driver from Angkor Wat to take me there last evening. It is about a 15 minute drive from the center and would be difficult to find unless you knew the city quite well. However, it is on the main road going to Phnom Penh though this particular drive takes you north for about ten minutes before taking a left on a dirt road for about 1 k.
The mama san was sitting outside and quickly walked me inside. There must have been close to 40 girls sitting around the main room. However, the mamaSan brought me to another nearby room where I sat for a few minutes. I told her that I wanted the girl to speak some English and she quoted me $80 USD for short time. About 20 girls came in the room and nothing over a 7. I finally asked 2 girls to sit with me with the intention of choosing one and renegotiating the price with the mama. Both the girls were older, perhaps early 30's, and claimed later to be childless so that was a surprise. Anyway, after my initial discussion, it was revealed that neither girls would kiss and the mama san said none of the Cambodian girls here will kiss on the lips. It was also indicated that no Vietnamese girls were working there so that option was out. Flummoxed and not pleased by this news, I decided to at least increase my odds of a good experience by selecting both girls, an ultimate really bad decision. I told Mama San, I would take both girls for long term for $100 total. She got on the phone with someone and she agreed to the price though said they would have to return after two pops so not exactly LT.
Back in the room things headed south quickly. First, neither girl would allow me to touch her nipples or breasts, DATY was totally out of the question, and a BJ, covered or otherwise, was also not on their menu. Frustrated, I put my shirt on and told them to leave though realizing that I was probably out $100. They then said 'oh it will be great sex anyway'. Basically, decided to forge ahead but it was predictably terrible. The girls pussies felt like the texture of burnt toast. That is what happens when no DATY is involved -- and they both had a Bush like the jungles surrounding Angkor Wat! After all this nonsense, I had difficulty having an orgasm and one girl had the audacity to ask if I smoked Ice. No, I said, it's the sex that sucks. Both were issuing the standard fake moans, etc. and one girl constantly was on the phone talking to various people including the Mama San according to the other girl. It was without question one of the worst sexual experiences I have ever encountered in SE Asia. I think that I will stick to viewing the ruins for the duration of my time here.
In other words, my recommendation is don't go to this place. I realize that I could have selected another girl (s) with possible better results but I am bit doubtful based on the performance of these two. BTW: the tuk tuk driver told me the other place in REP mentioned in prior reports had closed.
[QUOTE=Tomasb;1698071]Arrived in Siem Reap a few days ago and my experiences mirror what other posters have noted about the town. It's a nice enough place and the AngkorWat ruins are amazing to see and it's not possible to visit all of them in a few days.
However, the night life is not all that great. The main Pub Street area and night markets appears to mainly exist to fleece backpacker tourists and upscale market adventurers. I noticed only a few potential SW's near the corner of the Red Piano and 11 Street but nothing in the clubs such as Hip Hop located on the opposite side of the river across from the Pub Street area. Mikey's had woeful looking ladies...[/QUOTE]I am going SR soon and heard from some people that when you go to clubs in pub street there are many freelancers.
However, as you said in your report you did not see any? Or few?
How many clubs did you try and what time?
Hey guys,
So I booked my trip to Cambodia on Friday past and have been RTFF ever since!
I have surmised that SR is more about Angkor what than you know what, but hey, it beats being in the UK! I'm heading with low expectations in terms of mongering, knowing that PP and Sihanoukville await, sandwiched between two weekends in Bangkok! As I sit in my living room in the miserable surroundings of Britain, a Bangkok sandwich sounds quite appealing.
Can anybody confirm if Blossoming Romduol Lodge is girl friendly? I have undertaken the usual forum and Google searches, but to no avail. That probably means no and from what I have been reading, it won't make a whole lot of difference! But you never know, find a gem and keep her in your contacts for the duration, better the devil you know and all that.
Anyway, surely there are a raft of European / Aussie / American girls on their vacation more than willing to share the love? What would you suggest in terms of backpacker places to meet these types, should the Cambodian / Viet search fail?
I will be sure to report my finding during and / or after my trip.
Kindest regards.
[QUOTE=CtrDavid;1701419]Anyway, surely there are a raft of European / Aussie / American girls on their vacation more than willing to share the love? What would you suggest in terms of backpacker places to meet these types,[/QUOTE]1) In Ochheuteal beach, Dolphins and JJs attracts the backpackers and freelancers. Scene occurs later in the night.
A lot of girls hang out in Ocheuteal beach during the day time. Not a real pick up scene, but if you have game, it can be done.
Monkey Republic has a lot of backpackers around.
There are party boats that goes to the islands. You can take day trips. Never done it, but it seems fun. It will be a boat full of drunk, young people.
2) In Siem Reap, it would be Pub Street. Doesn't feel like a meat market, but many westerners around. I didn't see many streetwalkers, as reported by some people (I was there 2 years ago).
3) In Phnom Penh, the backpacker scene was next to the lake. But too bad they filled up most of the lake and kicked out the backpacker scene. The scene, whatever is left of it, moved to Street 172. Too bad; the scene on Street 172 doesn't seem that good.
4) Your best bets to pick up backpackers would be Bangkok's Khoa Sanh Road and Vang Vieng in Laos.
I think you would have better luck picking up a tourist or backpacker at Angkor what or Angkor Thom during the day. A little bit of game goes a long way here. The Pub Street scene seems to be rather boring with a few inebriated coeds around the Temple Bar. Overall, the nightlife scene has little to recommend. I went to HipHop and sat outside as the music inside was deafening. The Red Piano is a nice place to sit outside and watch the world go by. It also had the best Cuba Libre (rum and coke) I have had in Asia. It is even listed on the menu properly as Cuba Libre as one would order it in the Americas. I think they added some bitters to it.
I can confirm that extra services are offered at the massage place with the ladies in red on the road to the night market. They aren't color-coordinated during the day, but there are usually a few ladies available then as well. It's about halfway down the street on your left as you're walking towards the night market. I've been there twice recently and was offered a BJ for $20 during my one visit and "boom boom" for $25 during my other visit. Both girls were in their late 20's and decent looking, but far from spectacular. Nothing more than a HJ seems to be available at any of the other places on that street.
Also, just a word of warning. A few recent posts have mentioned the SWs at the Pub Street intersection, but you should know that few, if any, of those are natural-born ladies.
Can anyone please update me which disco / clubs to go to pick up girls?
And what is the good KTV?
[QUOTE=Tomasb;1698071]Arrived in Siem Reap a few days ago and my experiences mirror what other posters have noted about the town. It's a nice enough place and the AngkorWat ruins are amazing to see and it's not possible to visit all of them in a few days.
However, the night life is not all that great. The main Pub Street area and night markets appears to mainly exist to fleece backpacker tourists and upscale market adventurers. I noticed only a few potential SW's near the corner of the Red Piano and 11 Street but nothing in the clubs such as Hip Hop located on the opposite side of the river across from the Pub Street area. Mikey's had woeful looking ladies and the massage parlors had an assortment of unattractive fat ladies barking at me as I walked by. I was also constantly pestered by tuk tuk drivers.
However, I stopped in one massage place called Cool Sense directly next to the infamous Mikey's as there were several cute girls working there (at the massage place). I selected a very cute girl who gave me a nice massage but it soon became apparent there were no other offers forthcoming. Towards the end of the massage, I mentioned that I planned to visit AngkorWat the next day but due to her poor English skills, the girl thought I was INVITING her to Angkor Wat with me. I decided to go along with it anyway as it is free for Cambodians so no additional cost to me except the tuk-tuk to the site, which I would pay for anyway. I also asked her to meet me after work, which she agreed to do and she asked to bring another friend from work who spoke good English. We met outside my hotel as she did not want to come into the hotel lobby.
I quickly discovered her friend spoke no English. Apparently, the English speaking girl, if she ever existed, was busy. So we went to the Red Piano for drinks whereupon I discovered this girl and her friend also did not have I D's. Any chance of further encounters went out the window with this news. And the other girl said she was hungry but fortunately the restaurant had stopped serving so got out of any further expense and bid them adieu after they drank some fruit juice as they did not drink alcohol. I ran into again later in the evening at HipHop but I did meet them both the following morning and took them to Angkor Wat for their first visit but by the end of the morning, I thought that I must have selected the only two virgins in all of Cambodia for company.
[/QUOTE]You may have picked two ladies who were not Cambodian or who were Cambodian muslims. At a guess they were possibly Rohinga from Burma / Myanmar. That would have explained their interest in seeking Angkor what.
I have also met Cambodian muslims before. I think they are from the remnants of the Cham people. Some are virgins until they marry, or so I've heard. But there was one lady in Snooky who I found out much later was Muslim even though she was one of the most prolific around. She once offered me ST even though her expat boyfriend was in town, apparently sleeping it off in his guesthouse.
[QUOTE=Simian;1717563]You may have picked two ladies who were not Cambodian or who were Cambodian muslims. At a guess they were possibly Rohinga from Burma / Myanmar. That would have explained their interest in seeking Angkor what.
I have also met Cambodian muslims before. I think they are from the remnants of the Cham people. Some are virgins until they marry, or so I've heard. But there was one lady in Snooky who I found out much later was Muslim even though she was one of the most prolific around. She once offered me ST even though her expat boyfriend was in town, apparently sleeping it off in his guesthouse.[/QUOTE]Actually where is the best place to hunt? I don't see any suggestion from anyone.
[QUOTE=Xfreak0000;1701292]I am going SR soon and heard from some people that when you go to clubs in pub street there are many freelancers.
However, as you said in your report you did not see any? Or few?
How many clubs did you try and what time?[/QUOTE]I am in Siem Reap now. I did see a few in thr triangle bar and in the corner bar. A local told me X-Bar is full of them, but I did not go there.
[QUOTE=ToroRojo;1746423]I am in Siem Reap now. I did see a few in thr triangle bar and in the corner bar. A local told me X-Bar is full of them, but I did not go there.[/QUOTE]Are you actively mongering or are you just in the area for Angkor what? Tried to get an idea of what Pub St. Looks like right now as I'll be there next week for a couple of days to start off my SEA trip.
This one will be a bit brief, as I'm using a phone. Until I DL a good secure browser for my MacBook that I can delete after the trip, my writing is a little cramped.
Got off a Koreana flight from Seoul around 22:15, was out of the airport in 20, where I was greeted by the receptionist / tuk tuk driver that took me to the Bunwin. Paid 50/ nt for the suite, which achieves expectations, though slightly off the beaten path--from my frequent RTFF, I've found this to be a recurring theme. Anyhow, by the time I was showered, changed, and ready to hit Pub St. , it was 1 am. Well, I slept none of the 11.5 hour flight to Seoul from California, and all of the 5. 5 hour flight to Siem Reap after the fact; it was either Pub Street on scotch alone in my room. With that said, I hit it up in the hopes of seeing one of the MPs at 13°21'19.9"and 103°51'11.4" (Google now displays that street as simply "Night Market St", by the by).
Get down to Pub St, and although it's looking fun and active, that's not what I'm looking for At that moment. A bit of primer on myself; I'm a dark-skinned Black guy, later mid-20's, with a very (at times described as "generic") American accent; in the DR I'm often confused for a Haitian until I speak. I say this only to provide you a sense of context, because I know that whereas I enjoyed the atmosphere of late night Pub St. , it very much struck me as a touristy drag. Going to try Hip-Hop tomorrow, provided I get a pop in first. The moral of this story is that anything not in Pub Street is basically empty or closed after midnight (on a Friday, nonetheless).
Speaking of getting a pop, I rolled over to the street where all the MPs are, and it was pitch-black, to my chagrin. Had a few tuk-tuk drivers proposition to take me to boom boom, and in addition to a motorcycle girl posted on the corner to what I'm now shortening down to NM St, I saw a Viet stunner turn the corner down that street as well. Tempted to follow her down said dark alley, but my big head won out and I walked back down to Pub St. To have another brew at Temple Bar as I waited on my tuk-tuk to swoop me up. About to take an hour nap, go get "Angkor what at Sunrise" off my bucket list, and hopefully get a massage or some proper action. Stay tuned; going to try not to peter out on this trip report, wish me luck!
Ah, and if you're in PP, HCMC, or AC / Subic in the next two weeks, shoot me a PM. Some people fret or assume I'll fret over an age gap, but that's dumb; I'm not trying to bang *you* after all, so let's have a beer!
[QUOTE=Advantageous;1751031]This one will be a bit brief, as I'm using a phone. Until I DL a good secure browser for my MacBook that I can delete after the trip, my writing is a little cramped.
Got off a Koreana flight from Seoul around 22:15, was out of the airport in 20, where I was greeted by the receptionist / tuk tuk driver that took me to the Bunwin. Paid 50/ nt for the suite, which achieves expectations, though slightly off the beaten path--from my frequent RTFF, I've found this to be a recurring theme. Anyhow, by the time I was showered, changed, and ready to hit Pub St. , it was 1 am. Well, I slept none of the 11.5 hour flight to Seoul from California, and all of the 5. 5 hour flight to Siem Reap after the fact; it was either Pub Street on scotch alone in my room. With that said, I hit it up in the hopes of seeing one of the MPs at 1321'19.9"and 10351'11.4" (Google now displays that street as simply "Night Market St", by the by).
Get down to Pub St, and although it's looking fun and active, that's not what I'm looking for At that moment. A bit of primer on myself; I'm a dark-skinned Black guy, later mid-20's, with a very (at times described as "generic") American accent; in the DR I'm often confused for a Haitian until I speak. I say this only to provide you a sense of context, because I know that whereas I enjoyed the atmosphere of late night Pub St. , it very much struck me as a touristy drag. Going to try Hip-Hop tomorrow, provided I get a pop in first. The moral of this story is that anything not in Pub Street is basically empty or closed after midnight (on a Friday, nonetheless).
Speaking of getting a pop, I rolled over to the street where all the MPs are, and it was pitch-black, to my chagrin. Had a few tuk-tuk drivers proposition to take me to boom boom, and in addition to a motorcycle girl posted on the corner to what I'm now shortening down to NM St, I saw a Viet stunner turn the corner down that street as well. Tempted to follow her down said dark alley, but my big head won out and I walked back down to Pub St. To have another brew at Temple Bar as I waited on my tuk-tuk to swoop me up. About to take an hour nap, go get "Angkor what at Sunrise" off my bucket list, and hopefully get a massage or some proper action. Stay tuned; going to try not to peter out on this trip report, wish me luck!
Ah, and if you're in PP, HCMC, or AC / Subic in the next two weeks, shoot me a PM. Some people fret or assume I'll fret over an age gap, but that's dumb; I'm not trying to bang *you* after all, so let's have a beer![/QUOTE]I hope you have better luck in the coming days. I look forward to reading your reports.
I will be in PP from Aug 14-17 and would be happy to grab a cold one if you are around.
[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;1751567]I hope you have better luck in the coming days. I look forward to reading your reports.
I will be in PP from Aug 14-17 and would be happy to grab a cold one if you are around.[/QUOTE]Well it's deleted the next part twice so far, so I'll wait until I get to VN this evening for the next post. I'll be back home by then, but have one in my honor.
Alright; Tor Browser is up and running, and I think I have enough time before my non-mongering friends show up at the hotel here in HCMC to wrap up the other two nights of Cambo.
So an hour or two after I finish the post for Night 1, I conk out for 90 minutes only to get back up, showered, and dressed to hit Angkor what and Thom. Truly magnificent places, but neither have much to do with the parts of SR this report should focus on.
Anyway, after a post-ruins nap and shower, I come up with a quick plan. Right around 6, I'll head back to Night Market road and let the first group with two nice sets of titties amongst them bid to service me (much better than bidding for someone's services, that's for sure). The first 2-3 girls with massage brochures in hand seemed a bit reproachful about advertising their services to me, while another duo walking in the same general direction glanced at me with an expression that said "I don't want any part of that", which is fair; Siem Reap's definitely seen a lot less Black guys than PP by comparison. Anyway, I begin to wonder how long it will be before I get approached when I'm suddenly swarmed by a group of girls in orange shirts. I play it dumb ("Do you want a massage?" "I don't know, just walking around. " "Very good sir! Air con room very cheap!" "Ah, well okay. ".
I wrote like five paragraphs after that, but fuck me if this submission system isn't going out of it's way to discourage me from posting a fucking TR. And what does "Auto-Saved" mean? I don't see SHIT auto-saved. Where's it fucking saving to, eh?
Anyway, Cliff's Notes it is:
- Five girls; four of them are 6-7, one is IMHO a 2 (looks like the girl with horse teeth from Kung-Fu Hustle).
- Try to talk them down to 2-3, but Horseface sulks and I make her stay down by my feet.
- Almost take two home, but Horseface kills my vibe and is trying to up charge from the price the attractive ones want to take, as if she'll be included. I think it'll take someone just straight-up calling her ugly in Khmer to shut her down.
- My plan to have a wallet filled with the exact amount of currency I want them backfires because I forgot that a friend gave me a 1000 PHP note before I leave.
- $40 for a ten-hands he turns into 60; not bad, but by no means good because I already got them down to $40.
- Girls in yellow accost me right after, led by a tiny one that I wanted to drill hard fast and repeatedly, but weed pizza + refractory period = go to Island Bar and wait for the Tuk-Tuk back to the hotel.
I'm going to write my drafts in Notes in the future, but this shit is driving me bananas. I was going to go right into writing Night 3 after this, but it's discouraging to have 70% of your work just up and fuck off (repeatedly, may I add).
I think a lot of these MP girls are available for take-out with a little bit of negotiation. Because I missed my initial flight, my three days in SR were cut down to two, but I don't think there's an especially difficult setup to be had there for a steady stream of massage girls down to fuck and suck due to the perceived lack of physical / literal traffic (and thus money) they get per day compared to PP girls.
Hey all. Will be in SR starting today 3 August and will be there until 9 August. Let me know if anyone wants to go grab a beer. I need someone to show me the ropes. First time to Siem Reap.
Thanks in advance!
TB.
[QUOTE=Sidtip;1648022]Day 7.
I returned to the massage shops and found an OMG-looking 19 yr old. $8 per hour massage x 2 hours = $16 discounted to $14 plus $20 for her to get completely naked. Was able to finger her and as she lay naked beside and on top of me. No sex no oral. $34 of heaven for 2 hours. This was a highlight.
Day 8.
A girl from a previous visit discovered I was in town. Not sure how. Told her I didn't want to pay because I had feelings for her. She said it was free as long as she could see me. Wanted no condom again. Wtf. Don't they know about diseases. Fucking help.[/QUOTE]Hi Sidtip,
Do you remember the name of the location of the massage shop.
Hi,
Will be in Siem Reap 29 Aug to 2 Sep. Anyone up for a few Beers and some tips for a first timer in SR.
Cheers,
Kiwi
[B]August 18 (Day 4: Tuesday)
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I took the 7. 30 am Seila Ankgor minibus from PP and reached Siem Reap around 2 pm. I had booked a room at the Alliance Villa for SGD27 for 1 night. The bus stopped twice and journey was bit tiring. For anyone wanting to undergo this journey I would suggest taking the "Thero Express" bus. Saw the bus at the midway halt and seemed to be more comfortable with USB port and other frills at the same cost. I checked in and the receptionist a very sweet lady. She arranged a two day tuk tuk and guide at $100 within 15 minutes ($70 guide + $30 tuk tuk). Hotel is a bungalow. Within walking distance to Night market, Pub street and being GF friendly were the criteria for selection.
I came back to hotel missing the sunset after waiting in line for 2 hours due to cloudy weather around 7 pm. On way I had checked with the guide regarding the scene in Khmer Pub street. I had read about it earlier any had it as an option. The guide told me that it was far from where I stayed and not a place I would enjoy without any basic khmer language skills. One option down. Second option was to go to Top town (karaoke) after 9 pm and see if there were any good girls there for ST. I rested for a while as the walk around the temples really tires you. At the same time the guide had asked me to be ready by 5 am to go see the sunrise. I had only a few hours at my disposal and would have to call it a night by 11.30 pm or 12 am.
I decided of going towards Pub street and at Mickeys and X bar and then go to Top town after 10 pm. As I walked towards the pub street rain started and I had to take shelter in the shops between the night market street. It poured for a good 30 odd minutes. I was impatient and eager to get to Mickeys. As soon as the rain slowed down I started walking towards Pub Street and within minutes had girls in pink / orange / yellow dress accost me for a massage. I had accidently walked into Massage Street if I may call it so. Didn't want to waste time here so I moved on and walked the wrong way. Took another 15 minutes to get the Mickeys. I got in and settled down at a stool near the bar. Within minutes an old and mature lady came to me and started chatting. She said that "She could sleep with me tonight". This was extremely fast considering I had not even settled down at the bar and ordered a drink. I told her I need some time and will talk to her later. She went away. I ordered for a glass of draft Angkor, had to taste it once. I would have rather ordered a Heineken or a Corona instead. Didn't like the beer at all. I then took stock of what was available in the bar. Mostly old and mature women. There would have been around 8 to 10 of them. Some of them had congregated in a corner table. Two were playing pool of which one seemed decent. It then struck to me that the missing old Angkor what relics had escaped and settled at Mickeys and I should immediately alert the Apsara authority and get them back to the temple complex ASAP. I drank as fast as I could and went to X bar. There weren't many people there either, 2 girls sitting near the bar, easily ignored. Maybe I was too early and place came alive after 12 am but I didn't have the time nor the patience to wait that long. I was also hungry as I had skipped my lunch earlier to ensure I covered as many temples as possible. I started walking towards the night market ignoring the massage girls and got into one of the small khmer joints on the road. Got myself some food and a mango shake. It started pouring again and my 15 minute meal break got extended to almost an hour. It was beyond 11 pm when the rains slowed and I didn't have the energy or time to take a tuck tuck and go to any karaoke joints. I called it a night.
I wish there was a scene in SR and options available. SR is mainly for tourism and I don't see any scene whatsoever building up in future either. It would be apt to enjoy the pleasures in PP for anyone planning a trip to SR in near future and restrict trip purely for Angkor what which is indeed a must see.
Continued in PP Thread.
After visiting SR few times, I had few interesting experiences with the scene here.
1. Some massage parlour offer happy ending. Sometime you can know by them giving some hints through their body language and friendliness. You need to ask, as they are pretty shy to offer. There are many massage parlours around, go and see the girls offered. If they are cheeky and friendly. You might have high chances of getting a happy ending. Some of them will offer bom bom, but always be prepared with your own condom just in case they are willing. I regret not having one when one girl liken me and willing to bom bom even though we only agreed with a happy ending. Happy ending rate at around $5-10.
2. I was curious and went into the luring of the girls along night market. As you walk pass the street towards night market, you will have hordes of girls asking you for massage in an AC room, usually either behind the building or on the top floor. They are quite aggressive. Be careful when you follow them to the rooms. They might come with two girls and start demanding more money as they try to service you. These girls know no massage at all. Worse when a ladyboy came out from hiding wanting to offer you services as well. Try to avoid this place unless you are up to the adventure.
3. if you are alone walking down the street, you will be approached by guys on tuktuk or motorcycle asking if you want girl, only pay $1 for them to take you around. They are quite nice and accommodating to what you desire. First, they will bring you to some chicken house, look a bit run down and with dirty room. Here, the girls are around $30-40/ pop. Each house usually have only few choices of around 4-6 girls. And they don't really speak English. Bad service, just want to get it over with.
The other option is to bring you to some KTV (karaoke) places. Upon reaching, they will bring you to a big room for you to choose up to 10 or sometimes 15 girls. You can either bring the girl back or you can have her with room provided. One session is usually around $50-60. Place is much cleaner.
4. recently, I discovered finding girls through wechat. Once you login, you will start getting messages from these girls. They are a bit shy in the beginning, but basically they offer full sex service. You just need to ask. The braver girls will offer directly. They offer wide range of price, from $40-70/ pop. I had a girl at $40, arrived my room within 10 mins. Very friendly and speak English (which is important for me). Overnight at $70 but it was too late and I was too tired. Great thing is that, if you like the girl and wants her again, you can contact her easily.
Respect the girls and make sure they too had a good time. I enjoyed my session best when they are in my room and giving them a good time. If they like you, they even willing to let you fuck them without the rubber. But please stay safe.
Have fun.
Just had one of the best sex. Found this girl on wechat. Arrived in my room in about 20 mins. Very sexy and give good girlfriend experience. Clean, smells good, give great french kiss. I go down on her. Her moan was so turn on. She came a few times while fucking her. She gave one of the best BJ ever (like almost 10 mins), deep throat and she worship my cock. She take it as if she hasn't eaten an ice cream before. Cum in her mouth and take every drop of it. All these for $40. Going to have her over again tomorrow night.
[QUOTE=Robertbsm;1771597]Just had one of the best sex. Found this girl on wechat. Arrived in my room in about 20 mins. Very sexy and give good girlfriend experience. Clean, smells good, give great french kiss. I go down on her. Her moan was so turn on. She came a few times while fucking her. She gave one of the best BJ ever (like almost 10 mins), deep throat and she worship my cock. She take it as if she hasn't eaten an ice cream before. Cum in her mouth and take every drop of it. All these for $40. Going to have her over again tomorrow night.[/QUOTE]Robert,
Please could you PM me with this girl's contact details.
Thanks.
J.
[QUOTE=Robertbsm;1771597]Just had one of the best sex. Found this girl on wechat. Arrived in my room in about 20 mins. Very sexy and give good girlfriend experience. Clean, smells good, give great french kiss. I go down on her. Her moan was so turn on. She came a few times while fucking her. She gave one of the best BJ ever (like almost 10 mins), deep throat and she worship my cock. She take it as if she hasn't eaten an ice cream before. Cum in her mouth and take every drop of it. All these for $40. Going to have her over again tomorrow night.[/QUOTE]Hi Robert,
Which girl friendly hotel you stayed?
Thanks
Sorry for the late reply bro. I think I have lost her contact. Try searching lovesex688. But basically, just on your wechat and enjoy searching for the chick you like, be careful of op-shemale. I got it once. They are truly looks and talks like a girl but you will get suspicious when they want the money in advance. Don't choose those who look like Japanese doll, they are more likely op-shemale that has gone through plastic surgery on their faces.
[QUOTE=Jock123;1773457]Robert,
Please could you PM me with this girl's contact details.
Thanks.
J.[/QUOTE]
As far as I know, most hotel are girl friendly. I have stayed in about 6 different hotels and they have no problem with that. My favorite is 288 Boutique hotel.
[QUOTE=WonderJJ;1775901]Hi Robert,
Which girl friendly hotel you stayed?
Thanks[/QUOTE]
Hi friends,
What are some good girl friendly hotels under BHT 1000 please?
I stayed at Golden Orange Hotel 4 years ago. It is girl friendly and it is less than TBH 1000.
Nearly all hotels in Siem Reap are girl friendly. You can sort this out at the reception before you check in.
[QUOTE=CharmingGuy1;1785460] Hi friends, What are some good girl friendly hotels under BHT 1000 please?[/QUOTE]
I stayed at Steung Siem Hotel in September of this year. It is girl friendly. I paid $45 per night for a Double Deluxe Room with breakfast. One night I had a WG from near Red Piano join me. The next night, my girl friend from Phnom Penh joined me.
I'm back in SR again for a week. PM me if anyone is around.
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Gents. Heading back next month and wondering if anyone can chime in on the following as my SR trip recently was not as fruitful as I had hoped. Anyone been to Khmer Pub Street and can recommend or overview etc. Any daytime MP'S or bowls around and is there any outcall massage info to hotels?
Thanks
[QUOTE=FreeWillyBruh;1794827]Gents. Heading back next month and wondering if anyone can chime in on the following as my SR trip recently was not as fruitful as I had hoped. Anyone been to Khmer Pub Street and can recommend or overview etc. Any daytime MP'S or bowls around and is there any outcall massage info to hotels?
Thanks[/QUOTE]Most massage places are open during the day, but they may have few if any girls working. Just tell whoever is there what you want and they'll call a girl if they're willing to provide it. I've had the most luck with the small shop about halfway down the road to the night market on the left (it's a long narrow place beside a bar / restaurant about 2 steps above street level. Not the wide shallow one). Alternatively, there are lots of massage places about a mile out the road (High School Rd, according to the map) if you cross the night market bridge and go straight past Hard Rock, but they're pretty shady and some of them may refuse foreign customers.
I'm also curious about the Khmer Pub Street / KTV scene if anyone has any info. I went there once and enjoyed some ridiculously cheap beer with a beautiful lady that I got to pick out upon entering, but she spoke no English and I speak no Khmer, so I wasn't able to find out any details. If I had it to do over again, I'd have just asked "boom boom? But for some reason I felt awkward doing that after sitting with her in near silence for 10 minutes.
[QUOTE=HakanLube;1796963]Most massage places are open during the day, but they may have few if any girls working. Just tell whoever is there what you want and they'll call a girl if they're willing to provide it. I've had the most luck with the small shop about halfway down the road to the night market on the left (it's a long narrow place beside a bar / restaurant about 2 steps above street level. Not the wide shallow one). Alternatively, there are lots of massage places about a mile out the road (High School Rd, according to the map) if you cross the night market bridge and go straight past Hard Rock, but they're pretty shady and some of them may refuse foreign customers.
I'm also curious about the Khmer Pub Street / KTV scene if anyone has any info. I went there once and enjoyed some ridiculously cheap beer with a beautiful lady that I got to pick out upon entering, but she spoke no English and I speak no Khmer, so I wasn't able to find out any details. If I had it to do over again, I'd have just asked "boom boom? But for some reason I felt awkward doing that after sitting with her in near silence for 10 minutes.[/QUOTE]Thanks a bunch for the intel Lube! Hopefully we can get some replies as to the Khmer pub street bars / names / updates etc.
Will put the day time stroll you speak to on my agenda and still think there must be some additional options in REP. I recall a couple of MP girls coming into my hotel lobby last year after servicing some customers and they had Yellow Polo shirts on with blue numbers but I don't think they came from the night market street but could be wrong. Didn't get contact info but wish I did as I look to return soon.
[QUOTE=Robertbsm;1770834]After visiting SR few times, I had few interesting experiences with the scene here.
4. recently, I discovered finding girls through wechat. Once you login, you will start getting messages from these girls. They are a bit shy in the beginning, but basically they offer full sex service. You just need to ask. The braver girls will offer directly. They offer wide range of price, from $40-70/ pop. I had a girl at $40, arrived my room within 10 mins. Very friendly and speak English (which is important for me). Overnight at $70 but it was too late and I was too tired. Great thing is that, if you like the girl and wants her again, you can contact her easily.
Have fun.[/QUOTE]Which webchat application were you using? This sounds like a good move.
My tuk tuk driver suggested Top Town where I could choose between 30-40 girls. We drive down a pot holed dirt road & pulled into Top Town. A guy who is the shape of a small NFL guard takes me into a room & asked if I wanted girl for 1 hour or until 3 am for massage & boom boom. For 1 hour it is $60 & until 3 am it is $80. Any other activity I would negotiate with the girl. It was around 9 pm so I took the 3 am option. So he calls in 12-15 girls with most saying "pick me" & a couple on their phone. Most were average size & looks, not bad. I like them thin so I picked the spinner with long black hair, light skin, very short skirt & what looked like large breasts. I paid him $80, he then asked for a tip so I gave him $5. The girl would follow me to the hotel by motorcycle & return the same way.
We get to the hotel, undressed & got in bed. I noticed her breast shrunk down to a size "be" on the way to the hotel. I was then schooled that if I wanted a BJ, HJ, kissing or anything else besides boom bom, I had to tip her. She started at $50 & after 2-3 minutes of back & forth I agreed to $30. I don't like negotiating just before sex. She gave me 2 quick kisses, closed mouth, & then started a pitifully poor BJ. I finally got hard enough & it was the worse fuck ever I think. She had to finish it off by hand & that was so bad, I almost took over. I then sent her home. Her attitude & behavior was so bad I didn't want to be around her. So she knew exactly how to screw me. I bet she wasn't in the room more than 30 minutes.
So if you decide to try Top Town, don't pick the spinner. YMMV of course.
I was horny as hell the other night but it was getting late. I walked down to where the large sign is "Night Market". Immediately was approached by girls offering an oily for $4 but they weren't my type. A little further down a cute one came up & offered a BJ for $15. Works for me. There was no unused mats at her parlor so we go further down the street where signs are saying massage for $1. Damn. I noticed 3 other young girls following us from the first place. Her & I got on the mat & then the other 3 got on the mat too. She said for another $30 I could have 4 girls. I said 1 will do but she kept on until I said I was leaving. The other 3 girls left immediately. She was either really inexperienced or really bad. I could barely feel her mouth. Either way it took a long time. I finally finished it myself. She hadn't undressed but did unhook her bra for me. At first she wanted $15 for that but I said no. Not very good, but for me worth the $15+4. There were a lot of young girls down that street.
[QUOTE=Simian;1800122]Which webchat application were you using? This sounds like a good move.[/QUOTE]Its and app you can download on your phone. It's called wechat. The other option is badoo. It is a social app which you can search people nearby. It works for me every time. You can chat with them and get to know them before agreeing to meet. Usually I would take them out for a meal before agreeing to take them back. Going rate is around $40-$50. Many of them do not do this full time. So, not all agree to stay overnight. But if you like them and they like you, you can arrange for another meet and request for them to stay the night. I like this arrangement because by chatting you know if they can converse in English or not.
[QUOTE=ThePhnx;1800652]My tuk tuk driver suggested Top Town [/QUOTE]I'm afraid that was your first mistake (which most people can't avoid). Hard to find a reliable transport driver that will take you to the best spots, without commissions, without trying to rip you off.
Siem Reap has never been a good place for P4P. I went to Top Town around 2004. It sucked then, and it seems it still sucks. It was way too expensive, and the girls weren't that good. If you want cute girls, I'm afraid KTVs are the way to go.
Your experience sounds like the Tijuana street scene, where the girls will ask for extra money for everything, including taking off their tops.
I can't recall if I wrote a post about Tip Top last March as I had a woeful experience with two girls from there. A young tuk tuk driver from outside my hotel told me he could bring girls from there with my specs. They were a bit older than I had requested but more importantly their service was awful and they attempted to upsell me at every opportunity.
I would not recommend this house.
And yes, Siem Reap has little to offer in terms of our hobby. There were one or two girls at most patrolling the area near Pub Street and the disco across the river mainly consisted of tourists and one old Cambodian lady attempting to catch my eye. Some of the massage places may offer extras but you might have to go to several before you hit pay dirt. Mickeys Bar, one of the most popular venues with WG / FL, were populated with older gals and no stunners at least the night or two I visited. The bars on Pub Street are mainly populated with backpackers and the flashbacker crowd.
It's a pity because overall it's a very nice and pleasant place to visit with easy access to the famous temple sites. I would recommend bringing a girl from PP or Thailand, if possible. BTW, the temple sites have free entry for Cambodians.
[QUOTE=GreenBud;1801270]I'm afraid that was your first mistake (which most people can't avoid). Hard to find a reliable transport driver that will take you to the best spots, without commissions, without trying to rip you off.
Siem Reap has never been a good place for P4P. I went to Top Town around 2004. It sucked then, and it seems it still sucks. It was way too expensive, and the girls weren't that good. If you want cute girls, I'm afraid KTVs are the way to go.
Your experience sounds like the Tijuana street scene, where the girls will ask for extra money for everything, including taking off their tops.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Tomasb;1801399]
It's a pity because overall it's a very nice and pleasant place to visit with easy access to the famous temple sites. I would recommend bringing a girl from PP or Thailand, if possible. BTW, the temple sites have free entry for Cambodians.[/QUOTE]I agre with you. I love the temples and come one time every year. Bring in your own girl from Phnom Penh or Sikanoukville. Many cambodian girl have never been in Siem Reap and will love if you invite them.
It's my first visit to Cambodia and Siem Reap. I had read this board before and understood that there isn't much on offer here. However, I thought let me see what I could find. Here is my trip report, which consists of information already present within the last 15 pages here. But I put it here nevertheless partly as a confirmation of that info being current.
TUKTUK DRIVERS: I thought for a while (in jest) that the tuktuk drivers were part of what seemed to be the largest pimping network out there. Expect to be hassled for tuktuk rides followed by "lady bar? Massage? Boom boom? Chicken farm girls?" Later I understood that they weren't offering to supply girls but rather drive you to bars, KTV, etc.
I think every single tuktuk driver I have bumped into me offered to take me to girls. Normally, I am wary of touts on the road but the feedback on this board suggests these are genuine offers of transport. I didn't try. I secured the services of a tuktuk driver for my visit to temples. I use him every day so there's a little dependability factored in with him. However, he is the ONLY tuktuk driver who hasn't ONCE offered girls to me. I wonder if that has to do with him being parked within the grounds of my hotel.
HOTEL: I didn't check about guest-friendliness of my hotel in advance. I stayed at Somadevi Resort, for some $50-something I think. It's not the cheapest but it's nice enough and nicely positioned near the airport road and is a 8-10 minute walk to pub street, which makes it accessible and yet quiet. They have a $15 joiner fee listed in their information folder in the room.
MASSAGE GIRLS: This is the only avenue I explored. I didn't want to bring anyone to my hotel since this hotel doesn't seem like the type that welcomes the girls. It's mostly families.
I walked over to the night market street, near Pub Street. This street has a series of massage parlors as reported on the forum here. I had read that red-shirted girls were candidates for extras. All the various massage girls on this street are VERY aggressive. They will grab you and won't let go. So, I had red-shirted girls grabbed me. I wasn't sure if these were the same red-shirted girls mentioned on the forum. Later I would find out that there were two sets of red-shirted girls not far away from each other on the same street. I tried walking away but this girl started whispering about extras and everything.
Now, I am sad to report that I got taken for a ride for the most part and ended up getting tourist rates. She said $20 out on the street to which I said okay. She took me upstairs to "private" room. When I got upstairs with her, I was a little horrified. The private room was a bunch of matteresses laid side by side, not even a feet away from each other. They drew a curtain.
Girl wouldn't even take off her shirt and I had visions of Tijuana, where every little thing is a la carte. I couldn't do anything with her fully clothed so I relented and said yes to $5 extra. The BJ and "everything" changed into a HJ. There was no pretense of a massage and she let my hands roam as much as I want. Oh, before I forget, boobs the size of golf balls, which offered me to kiss and suck.
After business was concluded, she told me $3 to the guy downstairs. So, $28 out for a poor HJ with barely any privacy. I've never paid for an HJ. I think this is going to be the last time I did. And even if they do do boom boom, I'm not going back to that cramped dingy "aircon private room. ".
By the way, there was this guy there who it seemed was being ray-ped by a massage girl. English guy (accent), kept saying "don't do that, please", "it was a massage for 30 min, it's over. ", etc.
Afterwards when I was walking down the street, Orange-shirted girls tried to grab me real aggressively. They were pretty explicit too.
So that's my misadventure. Yeah, it was horrible. I should have stayed with my initial plan of temples but I thought I'd update my disaster over here anyway. The temples in contrast are quite awesome!
Just one post earlier one of our fellow members said "take a girl from PP or SR".
Hello,
I will be arriving in SR next week. Are there any new things I should know about before arriving there? You can share information on the board or by private message. Greetings,
Frits
Hello,
Did walk around the old market but they were asking high prices for extras and not much privacy.
Picked up a lady 32 years from Mikey bar. She was nice, did stay long time, sloppy blowjob. Before and after sleeping, will try to see her again.
Last night did cycle around on the road where the Angkor high school is situated. It has small streets connected to it with sometimes up to 5 massage shops connected to each other. They surely offer handjob will find out today what is on the menu. Some ladyboys working there too but did see some pretty girls. I wish I could invite one to my room, give a nice warm shower and then play with her. Most of the places did look like they need some paint and cleaning. I had a big DSLR camera in my bag that I don't want to take inside such a place.
I don't know what time they open up but the places where I did ask they close 4 in the morning.
Greetings,
Frits
Hello,
After some lousy experiences in massage shops in the high school street and some come connected smaller streets I did decide to visit the Khmer pub street.
Some karaoke bars look a it like beer gardens. There will be sitting girls in a row as you walk inside and you can ask one or two to join you and sit with you in a kind of cabin with a table and s few chairs. Some girls are really nice looking. The drinks and food are cheap, you tip the girl a few dollars and if you decide to take her to your hotel there is a 5 dollar barfine.
The girls sometimes ask 40 or 50 dollar for short time but I think you will be able to get a discount. Probably if you find one that is not used to yo with barangs you can get a better deal.
The girl I met yesterday had her period so I asked if she did have a friend who could replace her. She did, turned out to be not so pretty but a real blowjob queen. The first did escort me to the hotel without charge and then called her friend which appeared in 10 minutes.
Greetings,
Frits.
[QUOTE=FritsVanegter;1826041]Hello,
After some lousy experiences in massage shops in the high school street and some come connected smaller streets I did decide to visit the Khmer pub street.
Some karaoke bars look a it like beer gardens. There will be sitting girls in a row as you walk inside and you can ask one or two to join you and sit with you in a kind of cabin with a table and s few chairs. Some girls are really nice looking. The drinks and food are cheap, you tip the girl a few dollars and if you decide to take her to your hotel there is a 5 dollar barfine.
The girls sometimes ask 40 or 50 dollar for short time but I think you will be able to get a discount. Probably if you find one that is not used to yo with barangs you can get a better deal.
The girl I met yesterday had her period so I asked if she did have a friend who could replace her. She did, turned out to be not so pretty but a real blowjob queen. The first did escort me to the hotel without charge and then called her friend which appeared in 10 minutes.
Greetings,
Frits.[/QUOTE]What do you mean by Khmer Pub Street? Do you mean Top Town area out of town? If so the girls are not $40/50 there.
Pub Street has no karaokes.
Hello,
It is well within the city limits. I just copy and paste this from the internet.
To get there, just ask your tuk tuk driver to take you up along Sivatha Boulevard to Route 6, then turn towards the airport. Then, at the first set of traffic lights, turn right and you're there. It's 10 minutes from Pub Street, allowing for traffic jams.
Went there again last night but not all places there have ladies willing to follow you to your hotel. Most of them have poor or no English. Maybe the bigger KTV in the classy building will be a better choice. Will try one tonight I hope.
Greetings,
Frits
I was reading this page to my morning ice coffee and could not believe my eyes when I saw how incredible high amounts of US Dollars you basically through at the ladies.
And on top of that almost get nothing in return.
I am living in the countryside, but not that far from Siem Reap. When I get blue balls I go to one of several countryside saloons and get a helping hand from a masturbatrix oily hand and pay 12.000 KHR (Native Khmer males pay 10.000 KHR).
I have to purchase the massage oil myself, but I can live with that.
If I want to empty my balls in her labia I pay 24.000 KHR, maximum 30.000 KHR if she's in her twenties and good looking (Native Khmer males pay 20.000 KHR).
I get upset when I read about all these mongers coming here throwing away western dollars to scammer specialized in ripping sex tourists off there big US Dollar notes.
But on the other hand, I am lucky that you have not found the saloons me and other expats visit, because if you do, you will destroy the market in these local.
Establishments as well.
With all that truth said, I will end this post with saying that these saloons I am writing about are legit, the ladies ages range from 20+ to 40+ but they are all there out of.
Their own free will and the money goes into their pockets for further distribution to their kids as pretty much all of them are single mothers.
[QUOTE=KhmerBabu;1830775]I am living in the countryside, but not that far from Siem Reap. When I get blue balls I go to one of several countryside saloons and get a helping hand from a masturbatrix oily hand and pay 12.000 KHR (Native Khmer males pay 10.000 KHR).
I have to purchase the massage oil myself, but I can live with that.
If I want to empty my balls in her labia I pay 24.000 KHR, maximum 30.000 KHR if she's in her twenties and good looking (Native Khmer males pay 20.000 KHR).
I get upset when I read about all these mongers coming here throwing away western dollars to scammer specialized in ripping sex tourists off there big US Dollar notes.[/QUOTE]Any hints about where these places are? I'm sure people won't overpay now that we know the going rate.
[QUOTE=FritsVanegter;1826041]Hello,
After some lousy experiences in massage shops in the high school street and some come connected smaller streets I did decide to visit the Khmer pub street.
Some karaoke bars look a it like beer gardens. There will be sitting girls in a row as you walk inside and you can ask one or two to join you and sit with you in a kind of cabin with a table and s few chairs. Some girls are really nice looking. The drinks and food are cheap, you tip the girl a few dollars and if you decide to take her to your hotel there is a 5 dollar barfine.
The girls sometimes ask 40 or 50 dollar for short time but I think you will be able to get a discount. Probably if you find one that is not used to yo with barangs you can get a better deal.
The girl I met yesterday had her period so I asked if she did have a friend who could replace her. She did, turned out to be not so pretty but a real blowjob queen. The first did escort me to the hotel without charge and then called her friend which appeared in 10 minutes.
Greetings,
Frits.[/QUOTE]I tried a Khmer Pub Street beer garden last week when I was in Siem Reap (didn't catch the name, but there was a big wheel in front of it) and the girl that I met also "had her period. " It's possible that it's a coincidence, but with both of us getting the same story, I'm suspicious that it might just be the standard excuse for not going to bed with barangs. Hopefully I'm wrong. The beer was cheap and the company was good though, so no big regrets there.
As for the massage shops on the outside of town (High School Rd area), I had two poor experience and one great one. The great experience was at a place on the left hand side just before the ring road, but one of the lousy experiences was there too, so I can't really recommend it. For the price point, though, I'll probably check it out (or whatever massage places in the area have attractive girls sitting outside when I ride by) the next time I'm in SR.
Hi everyone,
I'll be going to SR for a week in April and am looking to have some fun in the evenings. I have read what has been posted here for the last couple of years, but am not sure I have found what I am looking for. I am not really that excited about dealing with the whole bar girl ritual, nor picking up a lady from a seedy massage joint. So I am asking for tips for two things:
1. 'high quality' escorts. I know that SR is not really known for its high end play, but if there is something of above average quality, I don't mind paying extra.
2. somewhere I can get good quality massage, with the full service option.
Any suggestions would be highly appreciated!
R
From the photo gallery thread:
[QUOTE=Boeing787;1706602]This is my driver-guide-cooker and girl-friend during my short visit of angkor / siem reap. I meat her at the X-bar. She drive me to the ankor temple, she guide me, she cooking for me and of course fucking with me for 50 US $ per day. She is not young and she was not the best looker of the girl I saw at siem reap but she was a lot of friendly and she do everything I want in the bed.[/QUOTE]This sounds pretty appealing to me, has anyone else done it? Where would you go to find a woman who can do all of this and how do you vet her?
Does anyone know anything about this? Seems. Odd.
[URL]http://cambodia.beep.com/index.htm[/URL]
[QUOTE=FictionalSpace;1865320]Does anyone know anything about this? Seems. Odd.
[URL]http://cambodia.beep.com/index.htm[/URL][/QUOTE]Proceed with caution. I'm sure this 'Mr Kelvin' had a site for escorts in Hanoi and in HCMC, they required a deposit being paid upfront which is what made me think it was a scam. It looks very similar here, requiring a transfer through Western Union. That should set alarm bells ringing. I may be totally wrong of course, but it's far less risk just going to Mickey's or using Wechat to find a girl.
[QUOTE=RPerrin74;1851120]Hi everyone,
I'll be going to SR for a week in April and am looking to have some fun in the evenings. I have read what has been posted here for the last couple of years, but am not sure I have found what I am looking for. I am not really that excited about dealing with the whole bar girl ritual, nor picking up a lady from a seedy massage joint. So I am asking for tips for two things:
1. 'high quality' escorts. I know that SR is not really known for its high end play, but if there is something of above average quality, I don't mind paying extra.
2. somewhere I can get good quality massage, with the full service option.
Any suggestions would be highly appreciated!
R[/QUOTE]I spent two years living in Siem Reap and know the city like the back of my hand. I remember there was one road near the river, past Pub Street and all that, that had a few massage parlors and I believe FS was available there.
Most MPs in Siem Reap don't offer FS or any service from what I understand, there was some police crackdown.
The only real option is to pick girls up from bar, pay the bar fine, and bring them back to your hotel room.
Siem Reap is definitely the cleanest and nicest city in Cambodia but there's not a whole lot of action there. Phnom Penh is definitely where the majority of the action is, and to a lesser extent Sihanoukville. Sihanoukville is a real paradise, you can buy marijuana from a few pizza shops there, and there's tons of bars on the beach that have girls you can buy. The whole city has a very chilled out beach vibe so it's a very cool place. There's also a couple of casinos.
Oh crap I forgot to mention. If you go down national highway 6 towards the airport, there's a few big outdoor restaurant / bar types of places that have tons of girls, as well as a few discos. I've forgotten the exact location but they are all located off side streets of National Highway 6. I'm not sure if those are foreigner friendly though but probably.
Best bet is to just go to the bars in Pub Street, choose your girl and take her back to your hotel room. You can get nice hotel rooms near Pub Street for like 15 or 20 dollars a night.
Thanks a lot BlueVelvet2. I think I will go the Mickey's route, though I might have a look around for the massage places by the river you mentioned.
Regarding Mr Kelvin, I had written to the address he gave, and automatically got a response with a Youtube link to a photo collage of heavily photoshopped Vietnamese (I assume) girls. And they cost something like $300/ HR. I can get P4P for that price back home.
A warning to fellow mongers. Following a recco I read here I think, I signed up for the [URL]Asiandating.com[/URL]. It looks like an OK site, and there are a few girls in SR I wouldn't mind connecting with. But please be very aware -- the bill to your credit card comes as [URL]Asiandating.com[/URL]! I will have a tough time explaining this to my wife if she sees our credit card bill! I was so sure they would bill to CCBill or similar I didn't even bother to check. I really can't believe the stupidity (theirs and mine).
[QUOTE=BlueVelvet2;1865569]Oh crap I forgot to mention. If you go down national highway 6 towards the airport, there's a few big outdoor restaurant / bar types of places that have tons of girls, as well as a few discos. I've forgotten the exact location but they are all located off side streets of National Highway 6. I'm not sure if those are foreigner friendly though but probably.
Best bet is to just go to the bars in Pub Street, choose your girl and take her back to your hotel room. You can get nice hotel rooms near Pub Street for like 15 or 20 dollars a night.[/QUOTE]Bars in Pub Street? I think there are none.
A few streetwalkers (riverside walkers) down by the riverside night market, and at the end of Pub Street.
[QUOTE=Bumholes1;1866211]Bars in Pub Street? I think there are none.
A few streetwalkers (riverside walkers) down by the riverside night market, and at the end of Pub Street.[/QUOTE]I think you're right, as Pub Street is mainly catering to western tourists, not mongers.
If you want places where you can get girls, like I said, across the river on Highway 6, there's a few discos and outdoor patio bar types of places that have lots of girls, on the side streets on Highway 6. You'll notice them because they'll have girls sitting out front.
[QUOTE=BlueVelvet2;1866336]I think you're right, as Pub Street is mainly catering to western tourists, not mongers.
If you want places where you can get girls, like I said, across the river on Highway 6, there's a few discos and outdoor patio bar types of places that have lots of girls, on the side streets on Highway 6
You'll notice them because they'll have girls sitting out front.[/QUOTE]These are the places the tuk tuk drivers try to take you to. Going rate is around $70 for short time. Having negotiated a price, you go to your hotel with the tuk tuk, and the girl invariably follows on her motorbike.
I have heard that another bar opened recently providing some competition to Mikeys Night Bar, but have no details.
[QUOTE=Bumholes1;1866660]These are the places the tuk tuk drivers try to take you to. Going rate is around $70 for short time. Having negotiated a price, you go to your hotel with the tuk tuk, and the girl invariably follows on her motorbike.
I have heard that another bar opened recently providing some competition to Mikeys Night Bar, but have no details.[/QUOTE]I used to stay at an apartment next to the Borei Angkor Hotel on Highway 6, and was within 5 or 10 minutes walking distance to most of those places. Never ventured to them though as I hadn't yet mustered the courage to monger back then. 70 dollars for ST, good to know.
[QUOTE=Bumholes1;1866660]I have heard that another bar opened recently providing some competition to Mikeys Night Bar, but have no details.[/QUOTE]It's called The Draft. It's about 100 m down Sok San Rd on your left. Stays open slightly later than Mikey's.
[QUOTE=KhmerBabu;1830775]I was reading this page to my morning ice coffee and could not believe my eyes when I saw how incredible high amounts of US Dollars you basically through at the ladies.
And on top of that almost get nothing in return.
I am living in the countryside, but not that far from Siem Reap. When I get blue balls I go to one of several countryside saloons and get a helping hand from a masturbatrix oily hand and pay 12.000 KHR (Native Khmer males pay 10.000 KHR).
I have to purchase the massage oil myself, but I can live with that.
If I want to empty my balls in her labia I pay 24.000 KHR, maximum 30.000 KHR if she's in her twenties and good looking (Native Khmer males pay 20.000 KHR)..[/QUOTE]Can I PM you when planning a trip to Siem Reap? Will appreciate if you have an evening to show the lie of the land. Of course beers on me.
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[QUOTE=HakanLube;1867508]It's called The Draft. It's about 100 m down Sok San Rd on your left. Stays open slightly later than Mikey's.[/QUOTE]Thank you. I will have a look on my next visit.
After lurking around for a while I would like to give you some hints for Siem Reap. I'm a former Siem Reap expat (2010-2012) and still have annual holidays down there.
Mikey's is a legendary spot, it was my regular hang-around when it was a tiny place next to Sok San street. During my last visit in April I still saw many of those girls working back in 2010. You have few stunner but nothing special anymore. Expats usually pick up girls elsewhere. You can find few girls in Facebook if you write Mikey's night bar. Some Mikey's girls are one of the few in SR who can give you decent BJ.
Street towards "old" night market (walk right from Mikey's and next street turn right) is the HJ and BJ street. It has many massage parlors and girls are quite pushy. They tell you about 5 usd massage, but inside you'll find 2-4 girls all waiting for 5 each. If you like a massage too, skip these. Girls have no idea how to do it if you compare to decent massage parlors. I had one 21 yo and one slightly older (didn't ask, didn't give a sh*t) giving me hand just in corner where you turn right. She had the biggest tits I have ever seen in Cambodia. She was shy to take her top off because its only curtains there but roaming was allowed and done. Cost was 20 usd each, yes expensive for HJ but I was horny. Other place I went was around 100 m down towards Night market on your right hand side. Petite girl in her early twenties. She was 150/38 she told me. First had bunch of girls around me all asking 4 us each for massage. Ditched them quickly, with few dollars tip. Easier that way. Then got quote for HJ, 100 usd. I laughed and stood up to leave, then price started to go down slowly until I asked for BJ. No can't do it. Okay 25 us for HJ, started working and then asked for 40 for BJ. Agreed, but it was sloppy BJ. Then told me can't CIM, but I decided against and blew my load in her mouth. Even kept her head still to get everything out.
For more professional service you can find in Taphul Road, road behind Park Hyatt. Ask TukTuk guy for 24 h spa / massage. On the menu they have romantic massage, papasan told me it includes HJ. Can get full service too. Was drunk with 25 us in my pocket but a fellow monger I met in Mikey's pushed 30 us my hand and told to enjoy the service. I had left home just for a beer, didn't plan having fun. If you're reading this, I thank you again.
[QUOTE=VaapeCamhel;1876954]For more professional service you can find in Taphul Road, road behind Park Hyatt. Ask TukTuk guy for 24 h spa / massage. On the menu they have romantic massage, papasan told me it includes HJ. Can get full service too.[/QUOTE]Sounds promising.
Is the spa / massage place actually on Taphul Rd? Any idea what it's called or clues for how to find it (signage? I'd like to check into this on my upcoming visit.
[QUOTE=FictionalSpace;1877516]Sounds promising.
Is the spa / massage place actually on Taphul Rd? Any idea what it's called or clues for how to find it (signage? I'd like to check into this on my upcoming visit.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.google.com/maps/@13.3625533,103.8511243,3a,75y,277.41h,74.87t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sJ3AlIVePMExWH2POjaDRGw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656[/URL]
Just ask tuktuk and they will know it. I didn't have full service myself, but I heard action next room. I went for BJ. You can't choose girl, but if you're not pleased with one you get, you should be able to change. Or talk with papasan before. Negotiate with girl on extras, not with papasan. Tuktuks know about other places, I recommend to take regular driver. Some people are afraid commissions drivers get, but that's just one or two dollars. Won't ruin your budget.
On my last visit I went to numerous massage's (for real massage since I was stiff everywhere) but with open mind. Only once I got full service at Romdoul spa and massage in front of Borey Angkor hotel. Place had signs in rooms saying "no sex". Its all up to the girl. Skip old market massages if you are looking for real massage. For oral fans Cambodia is not for you. Have a BJ in one of the Bangkok's BJ-joints and enjoy Khmer pussy in Cambodia.
[QUOTE=BlueVelvet2;1866960]I used to stay at an apartment next to the Borei Angkor Hotel on Highway 6, and was within 5 or 10 minutes walking distance to most of those places. [/QUOTE]Annie Villa?
[QUOTE=VaapeCamhel;1877883][URL]https://www.google.com/maps/@13.3625533,103.8511243,3a,75y,277.41h,74.87t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sJ3AlIVePMExWH2POjaDRGw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656[/URL]
Just ask tuktuk and they will know it. I didn't have full service myself, but I heard action next room. I went for BJ. You can't choose girl, but if you're not pleased with one you get, you should be able to change. Or talk with papasan before. Negotiate with girl on extras, not with papasan. Tuktuks know about other places, I recommend to take regular driver. Some people are afraid commissions drivers get, but that's just one or two dollars. Won't ruin your budget.
On my last visit I went to numerous massage's (for real massage since I was stiff everywhere) but with open mind. Only once I got full service at Romdoul spa and massage in front of Borey Angkor hotel. Place had signs in rooms saying "no sex". Its all up to the girl. Skip old market massages if you are looking for real massage. For oral fans Cambodia is not for you. Have a BJ in one of the Bangkok's BJ-joints and enjoy Khmer pussy in Cambodia.
Annie Villa?[/QUOTE]Great. Thanks for the info. I'm going to check this out when I visit.
Being a bad viewer of this site that I am, I am a few months late in my report from November. I did go there to be a tourist but did to experience some of the local flavor.
Mikey's, I hung out there two nights, last night I took a tiny, pretty thing back to my hotel for ST ($40+2 for ride back). She was by far the most attractive to me at Mikey's. The drinks were cheap and a lot of fun Ex-pats to talk to.
I stays at the Ankor Paradise hotel, which seemed to have no issue with my visitor (This was also after 10 AM).
I did get a foot rub from one of the places on the corner of Sivitha and Sok San, very cute and chubby for a Khmer girl. She hinted that there was more available upstairs but I didn't have the energy, it was near the end of my trip.
I am looking to go back and be more adventurous with Siem Reap. It isn't Thailand in that regard.
Can anyones suggest a monger friendly hotel in Siem Reap as I will be there June 8-12 ?
I'm taking about no hassles coming back 2-3 in the morning with girls.
It is better to be Central near Pub street?
[QUOTE=YellowPaul;1882549]Can anyones suggest a monger friendly hotel in Siem Reap as I will be there June 8-12 ?
I'm taking about no hassles coming back 2-3 in the morning with girls.
It is better to be Central near Pub street?[/QUOTE]Almost none of hotels, GH's and resorts don't give a shit if you bring girl in. Once I stayed in Ree hotel on road 6 and had company. Next day receptionist said I need to pay extra bucks because my rate was only for one person, but after a small chat didn't need to pay. Frangipani hotels say "no sex tourism". I'd try my luck and say she is my cousin but I can speak Khmer. Try Hollywood Angkor or Royal crown those AR walking distance to old market and have pool. Roughly 30 us for a night.
I will be in Siem reap in August can anyone tell me what Khmer pub street is like and if it is worth going there.
Cheers.
[QUOTE=LoungeDog45;1885898]I will be in Siem reap in August can anyone tell me what Khmer pub street is like and if it is worth going there.
Cheers.[/QUOTE]Absolutely it is worth a Tuk Tuk tour and many stops for an Angkor beer and take out! Just make sure you only ask for a line up that's barfinable and go with customer on that particular evening! I will be there in August as well if you need me and my driver to escort ya!
[QUOTE=FreeWillyBruh2;1885920]Absolutely it is worth a Tuk Tuk tour and many stops for an Angkor beer and take out! Just make sure you only ask for a line up that's barfinable and go with customer on that particular evening! I will be there in August as well if you need me and my driver to escort ya![/QUOTE]I get to Siem reap on the 10th in the afternoon.
[QUOTE=FreeWillyBruh2;1885920]Absolutely it is worth a Tuk Tuk tour and many stops for an Angkor beer and take out! Just make sure you only ask for a line up that's barfinable and go with customer on that particular evening! I will be there in August as well if you need me and my driver to escort ya![/QUOTE]Sounds like a plan I could use the backup and advise.
[QUOTE=VaapeCamhel;1877883][URL]https://www.google.com/maps/@13.3625533,103.8511243,3a,75y,277.41h,74.87t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sJ3AlIVePMExWH2POjaDRGw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656[/URL]
Just ask tuktuk and they will know it. I didn't have full service myself, but I heard action next room. I went for BJ. You can't choose girl, but if you're not pleased with one you get, you should be able to change. Or talk with papasan before. Negotiate with girl on extras, not with papasan. Tuktuks know about other places, I recommend to take regular driver.
Annie Villa?[/QUOTE]I've been there and gotten just the HJ, I'll have to return to get the BJ. Another place I found HJ service was close to Angkor Market. If you are facing Rt 6 from Sivutha, make a right turn at Angkor Market. There are several store fronts on the right-hand side, a couple are massage parlors. The one furthest down before it becomes a fenced-in parking lot is the one I found a cute masseur to relieve my 'tension.'
[QUOTE=MrHydePhd;1886443]I've been there and gotten just the HJ, I'll have to return to get the BJ. Another place I found HJ service was close to Angkor Market. If you are facing Rt 6 from Sivutha, make a right turn at Angkor Market. There are several store fronts on the right-hand side, a couple are massage parlors. The one furthest down before it becomes a fenced-in parking lot is the one I found a cute masseur to relieve my 'tension.'[/QUOTE]I think it's all about getting the right girl. You can't choose her, so probably you'll get non BJ-girl. Price is a bit high, 50 us for romantic massage as they call it. But relief is included, beats the hackle process in other joints. Please post name of your girl if you get BJ. As I said before there is full service option too.
[QUOTE=FreeWillyBruh2;1885920]Absolutely it is worth a Tuk Tuk tour and many stops for an Angkor beer and take out! Just make sure you only ask for a line up that's barfinable and go with customer on that particular evening! I will be there in August as well if you need me and my driver to escort ya![/QUOTE]Contact me mate. Cheers.
I am really interested to hear from anyone who has spent time in Khmer pub st would like to know how it is different to pub st, if it is safe and what goes on the Road? If anyone intends to be in Siem Reap. Between the 10th and 14th of August I am keen to look at the nightlife with a like minded person.
Cheers.
[QUOTE=LoungeDog45;1889655]I am really interested to hear from anyone who has spent time in Khmer pub st would like to know how it is different to pub st, if it is safe and what goes on the Road? If anyone intends to be in Siem Reap. Between the 10th and 14th of August I am keen to look at the nightlife with a like minded person.[/QUOTE]The pub street is just a street full of restaurants and bars and it has grown to small alleys around. It's just barangs and only khmers you will find are staff members. Temple bar used to have freelancers but they were kicked out years ago. For me it's just pizza at LE tigre de papier and then continue somewhere else.
Khmer pub street is collection of beer gardens and KTV's. You should take tuktuk driver with you, buy some food and beer for both of you. If you are not able to speak Khmer, you will not be able to get much there yourself. Menus are printed out in khmer only. Girls hardly speak any English. I went with locals there and had really fun time. Basicly you will pay 4 us for big jug of beer, 1,5 us for food item (khmers eat a lot), 2 bucks for girl to sit next to you. You should take night out khmer style! For example take same tuktuk guy who drives you around temples if you don't know any locals.
[QUOTE=VaapeCamhel;1889916]The pub street is just a street full of restaurants and bars and it has grown to small alleys around. It's just barangs and only khmers you will find are staff members. Temple bar used to have freelancers but they were kicked out years ago. For me it's just pizza at LE tigre de papier and then continue somewhere else.
Khmer pub street is collection of beer gardens and KTV's. You should take tuktuk driver with you, buy some food and beer for both of you. If you are not able to speak Khmer, you will not be able to get much there yourself. Menus are printed out in khmer only. Girls hardly speak any English. I went with locals there and had really fun time. Basicly you will pay 4 us for big jug of beer, 1,5 us for food item (khmers eat a lot), 2 bucks for girl to sit next to you. You should take night out khmer style! For example take same tuktuk guy who drives you around temples if you don't know any locals.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the reply, think I will take your advise and take a tuk tuk drive there and eat and drink with the driver, I do that most places I go.
Cheers.
I've seen WeChat mentioned one or two times on the SR thread, but I'm curious if anyone is willing to share their experiences. It's a major source in the Philippines, China, and elsewhere, but have people had consistent success in Siem Reap?
Thanks!
[QUOTE=VaapeCamhel;1877883][URL]https://www.google.com/maps/@13.3625533,103.8511243,3a,75y,277.41h,74.87t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sJ3AlIVePMExWH2POjaDRGw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656[/URL]
Just ask tuktuk and they will know it. I didn't have full service myself, but I heard action next room. I went for BJ. You can't choose girl, but if you're not pleased with one you get, you should be able to change. Or talk with papasan before. Negotiate with girl on extras, not with papasan. Tuktuks know about other places, I recommend to take regular driver. Some people are afraid commissions drivers get, but that's just one or two dollars. Won't ruin your budget.[/QUOTE]Heads up. This place isn't actually on Taphul Road. It is one block west on the parallel street at a T intersection. Really easy to spot.
I just went and was offered regular massage or he. They wanted $40 for 60 min+he. We settled on 30. Got a mediocre massage followed by an incredible HJ. Not usually my thing, but this was slow and involved. Shower afterwards and the masseuse thoroughly scrubbed me down.
Possibly a BJ if I wanted to haggle, but they were pretty adamant about "no boom boom."
[QUOTE=FictionalSpace;1894681]Heads up. This place isn't actually on Taphul Road. It is one block west on the parallel street at a T intersection. Really easy to spot.
I just went and was offered regular massage or he. They wanted $40 for 60 min+he. We settled on 30. Got a mediocre massage followed by an incredible HJ. Not usually my thing, but this was slow and involved. Shower afterwards and the masseuse thoroughly scrubbed me down.
Possibly a BJ if I wanted to haggle, but they were pretty adamant about "no boom boom."[/QUOTE]Thanks for your correction. I've became way too Cambodian in 6 years what comes to maps. All those main and side streets are just "taphul" for all tuktuks though.
Well, its boomboom there and in many places around. I have used to go spa and massage at roumdol spa. Its in front of Borey Angkor hotel. They have signs saying no sex everywhere. I thought it was no sex until I got it. Just talk with someone senior and well dressed guy at establishment, don't trust what younger clerks say. They are just hired hands. Get a massage for few times just to get them know your face. Or give someone a tip. If they have 20 girls working, one or two will give services. Not all massage girls are hookers! If you are just seeing temples for few days its better to stick with Old market bars, don't bother with massages outside night market. 2 weeks up you will have more time to get "inside deals".
I just arrived and I'm staying at a nice hotel close by the night market. I tried to find company using the weechat app. You can find people near by. Within 100 meters and within 200 meters and so on. Some profiles clearly stands out with only one or a few over pretty pictures and words like "love" and "I have time for you". Also it is very easy to get a conversation started. And soon after they write "you want love making? Then they want you hotel name and room number.
First I chatted up Tee Lee who was so kind to admit that her profile picture on weechat was fake. Then she send me another one of a 22 year old girl. The girl that arrived was at least 35 if not 40. I made a mistake by not informing her that I would only pay her the next morning. She wanted payment up front. So I did not budge nor did she so the deal was afd and she left with 5 dollars for transportation.
Then I tried again. This girl called herself Tee Le (one e only). This time making sure that I made it clear about payment would be as you leave. The girl shows up. Also leaves her ID at the reception. Then she somehow did not understand this about paying when leaving. So we got into a long argument. And since I was horny I finally agrees to paying half upfront. Soon after it becomes clear that this is not a girl but a ladyboy. I did not mind trying it but the whining never stopped about not doing this or that. Wanting money upfront again. Being hungry suddenly. I might be too soft but I was unable to get her to leave her/his phone here when going to pick up some food. Obviously he / she was happy with the half payment and would do anything to leave. Not fun at all. And strangely enough they understand English pretty much everything when it comes to arguing for why they need to leave.
Lesson learned: don't pay up front. Always demand a photo taken today. And if not her on the pic send her away. Don't get carried away just because you are horny. Easier said than done. Cheers.
[QUOTE=FictionalSpace;1892011]I've seen WeChat mentioned one or two times on the SR thread, but I'm curious if anyone is willing to share their experiences. It's a major source in the Philippines, China, and elsewhere, but have people had consistent success in Siem Reap?
Thanks![/QUOTE]See my report just below.
[QUOTE=Copenhagen;1895763]I just arrived and I'm staying at a nice hotel close by the night market. I tried to find company using the weechat app. You can find people near by. Within 100 meters and within 200 meters and so on. Some profiles clearly stands out with only one or a few over pretty pictures and words like "love" and "I have time for you". Also it is very easy to get a conversation started. And soon after they write "you want love making? Then they want you hotel name and room number.
First I chatted up Tee Lee who was so kind to admit that her profile picture on weechat was fake. Then she send me another one of a 22 year old girl. The girl that arrived was at least 35 if not 40. I made a mistake by not informing her that I would only pay her the next morning. She wanted payment up front. So I did not budge nor did she so the deal was afd and she left with 5 dollars for transportation.
Then I tried again. This girl called herself Tee Le (one e only). This time making sure that I made it clear about payment would be as you leave. The girl shows up. Also leaves her ID at the reception. Then she somehow did not understand this about paying when leaving..[/QUOTE]Interesting. I had a similar poor experience.
Talked to a few via WeChat. A couple of the girls wanted $100 - 125 and were unwilling to budge. Found one girl who wanted $40ST. Her WeChat name was Ada loves you (or something similar). More than I wanted to pay still, but I was horny. So she says she'll be there at 7 pm and then shows up at 7:30. Picture was accurate and she was cute enough. Maybe late 20's. Paid her up front. Without even asking, she grabs a bottle of water from the mini fridge (Then she disappears into the bathroom and comes back out wrapped in a towel. Then, for some unknown reason she unmakes my bed, which she then lays down on and motions for me to take my clothes off. Fine. Guess we're not going to take our time.
She doesn't move from that position the entire time. No blowjob, no touching her below the waist, and she just kept insisting that I put on the condom and get to it. Finally got myself hard enough to put a condom on and then there was a lot of whining about being too big, etc. Finally came and then I hurried her out the door.
Waste of $. Your hand would be a better option that this girl. Almost makes me wish I had gone with one of the more expensive options.
I saw somewhere online (can't remember if here or elsewhere) that the Crown Royal Hotel (near the old market) was GF. It is, but they charge a $15 fee per visitor that must be paid on the spot. So if a girl comes over, you have to come down from the room, pay the money, and then walk back up with her. And they're not super friendly about it.
The hotel itself was great otherwise.
[QUOTE=FictionalSpace;1895912]I saw somewhere online (can't remember if here or elsewhere) that the Crown Royal Hotel (near the old market) was GF. It is, but they charge a $15 fee per visitor that must be paid on the spot. So if a girl comes over, you have to come down from the room, pay the money, and then walk back up with her. And they're not super friendly about it.
The hotel itself was great otherwise.[/QUOTE]I was going to stay at the royal crown I am in Siem Reap in August, I asked them that exact question this was there response (I had booked with agoda min two people).
"Dear Mick,
Warmest greeting from Royal Crown Hotel & Spa!
Regarding to your email underneath, we would like to inform you that if you reserve room under two occupancies, our hotel does not charge additional fee; however, a girl is required to have ID card or passport and phone number.
Shall there be any other inquiry needs to be clarified, please feel free to contact us at any time!
The best regards.
Veasna suy".
So yes girl friendly.
Cheers.
[QUOTE=FictionalSpace;1895910]Interesting. I had a similar poor experience.
Talked to a few via WeChat.
...
Waste of $. Your hand would be a better option that this girl. Almost makes me wish I had gone with one of the more expensive options.[/QUOTE]So we can easily conclude that wechat is not really a good way to find nice company. Anyone knowing how to be successful on weechat, please share your tricks.
[QUOTE=Copenhagen;1895999]So we can easily conclude that wechat is not really a good way to find nice company. Anyone knowing how to be successful on weechat, please share your tricks.[/QUOTE]Try the MatchStix app. It is a Cambodian 'Tinder'.
[QUOTE=Copenhagen;1895999]So we can easily conclude that wechat is not really a good way to find nice company. Anyone knowing how to be successful on weechat, please share your tricks.[/QUOTE]I avoided the tuk tuk's that push "women" and "weed" as many are in bed with cops looking to shake down a rich looking tourist danger is there especially the ones near Pub street. Remember Cambodia is a very conservative country compared to Vietnam, Thailand, etc and 2 of of 4 nights when I have had some hot young KTV girls come back to my hotel room they only came separately to my room not with me. Later I did not have any problem taking her to see the Temples at Sunrise but she was dressed as a local but again this not Thailand and I hardly saw a hot 21 year old walking around with a 65 year old pot bellied foreigner. Just watch out as my hotel tried getting a $15 guest fee despite the fact I booked for double occupancy. Better to tell them at check in that your guest is coming later. In the end I never paid.
Send me PM a got a # of good English speaking driver in a Lexus RX300 to take me some nicer higher end KTV places. Seems this time of year was dead due the heat. I had a pretty good selection of 30 young girls at 2 different places. I paid $70 for a overnight back to hotel twice from 2 different KTV's. I should it would have been $50 for a hours there as I think they have rooms on premise but I did not try this option.
I tipped my driver $10-15.1 time I did have some drinks in the 1 KTV place and not a complete ripoff at $3 for a Heineken.
[QUOTE=LoungeDog45;1895952]I was going to stay at the royal crown I am in Siem Reap in August, I asked them that exact question this was there response (I had booked with agoda min two people).
"Dear Mick,
Warmest greeting from Royal Crown Hotel & Spa!
Regarding to your email underneath, we would like to inform you that if you reserve room under two occupancies, our hotel does not charge additional fee; however, a girl is required to have ID card or passport and phone number.
Shall there be any other inquiry needs to be clarified, please feel free to contact us at any time!
The best regards.
Veasna suy".
So yes girl friendly.
Cheers.[/QUOTE]Interesting. I did book for two to avoid exactly the situation I found myself in and the front desk person was persistent. I didn't want to make a fuss since the lobby had people hanging out and I was standing there with a girl. I watched him put the money into the drawer, but maybe he ended up pocketing it.
Maybe you'll have better luck, but just a heads up.
[QUOTE=FictionalSpace;1896540]Interesting. I did book for two to avoid exactly the situation I found myself in and the front desk person was persistent. I didn't want to make a fuss since the lobby had people hanging out and I was standing there with a girl. I watched him put the money into the drawer, but maybe he ended up pocketing it.
Maybe you'll have better luck, but just a heads up.[/QUOTE]I am not staying there, have booked closer to the action in a new place with great reviews, I emailed them to make sure they are girlfriend friendly, not sure if I will even take one back to the room but just like the option, I am also in Phnom Penh at the Niron hotel and they are girlfriend friendly, all without extra cost.
Good luck.
[QUOTE=Copenhagen;1895763]
First I chatted up Tee Lee who was so kind to admit that her profile picture on weechat was fake. Then she send me another one of a 22 year old girl. The girl that arrived was at least 35 if not 40. I made a mistake
Lesson learned: don't pay up front. Always demand a photo taken today. And if not her on the pic send her away. Don't get carried away just because you are horny. Easier said than done. Cheers.[/QUOTE]Of course most of the photos of hookers on WeChat are fake and if you ask for a real photo they will just send another fake or a photoshopped pic that won't look at all like them. My solution to this is to use the Video Calling feature. Just call the girl and get her to look at the camera. If she won't do that then move on. Often the girl will very briefly and you can have a sense of who she is. Also, sometimes she will be more comfortable if she gets a glimpse of you before you switch the camera to point over your shoulder.
As far as I know these video chats are not storable so both your and her privacy are assured. There is also an audio only feature if you want to talk and don't want to leave a transaction negotiation trail.
[QUOTE=SteelBaton;1912931]As far as I know these video chats are not storable so both your and her privacy are assured. There is also an audio only feature if you want to talk and don't want to leave a transaction negotiation trail.[/QUOTE]That's a good idea.
In Siem Reap, one can find a lot of girls on Wechat. Look for the status msg 'make love' and message them. Within thirty minutes, I established contact with at least ten girl all agree for ST and LT. Though their profile pics are by far photo shopped, when I ask for current pic, they do send pic closer to the current looks.
[QUOTE=Mercer143;1936219]That's a good idea.
In Siem Reap, one can find a lot of girls on Wechat. Look for the status msg 'make love' and message them. Within thirty minutes, I established contact with at least ten girl all agree for ST and LT. Though their profile pics are by far photo shopped, when I ask for current pic, they do send pic closer to the current looks.[/QUOTE]So you guys are obviously using smart phones for this, right? Are you using your own smart phone you bring from abroad or one you purchase in Cambodia? I have a Samsung I use in the Philippines but it only calls and texts.
[QUOTE=GoodTimeTrvlr;1936779]So you guys are obviously using smart phones for this, right? Are you using your own smart phone you bring from abroad or one you purchase in Cambodia? I have a Samsung I use in the Philippines but it only calls and texts.[/QUOTE]Yes, I use the same smart phone which I use in my country. You need to install the app like wechat from play store.
I have also seen in the Phonm penh airport they rent you smartphone with unlimited data for one week for around 10 $.
[QUOTE=Mercer143;1937132]Yes, I use the same smart phone which I use in my country. You need to install the app like wechat from play store.
I have also seen in the Phonm penh airport they rent you smartphone with unlimited data for one week for around 10 $.[/QUOTE]Thanks. I'm visiting Siem Reap (and the rest of Cambodia) during Oct. And I'm looking to explore with all options. Your advice on how to search is helpful. I appreciate it.
I'm planning first trip to Cam in Jan. Which is a better place for mongering in terms of quantity like girly bars, barber shops, street walkers etc.
[QUOTE=Dewdrops;1943410]I'm planning first trip to Cam in Jan. Which is a better place for mongering in terms of quantity like girly bars, barber shops, street walkers etc.[/QUOTE]Unmistakeably PP.
One goes to PP for killing fields and some fun on the side and to Siem Reap to see Angkor what and possibly some fun on the side. I had good luck -this is what worked for me. On the main streets where the bars are, just look around where the Tuk Tuk driver congregate. Find one that looks trustworthy and speaks English -he will take you to places. I stayed 2 nights in SR -both nights after long day of templing around town (there is more to Siem Reap than just Angkore what) -had the same tuk tuk driver help me make connections. On two nights he drove me to two different KTV type places. You can have the line up and take away. Safe and reliable at least in my experience.
[QUOTE=Bumholes1;1943724]Unmistakeably PP.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=LoungeDog45;1896738]I am not staying there, have booked closer to the action in a new place with great reviews, I emailed them to make sure they are girlfriend friendly, not sure if I will even take one back to the room but just like the option, I am also in Phnom Penh at the Niron hotel and they are girlfriend friendly, all without extra cost.
Good luck.[/QUOTE]Could you advise the name of the place and how did you trip go? I'll be in Siem Reap in December for a few days and same as you. Not sure if will bring the girl back, but good to have this option.
[QUOTE=Dewdrops;1943410]I'm planning first trip to Cam in Jan. Which is a better place for mongering in terms of quantity like girly bars, barber shops, street walkers etc.[/QUOTE]I am sure action can be done in S, but PP is much much better. In fact its probably one of the best destinations for the hobby in Asia, thought the scene is quite small it si fun and the Khmer girsl are very charming in their own way.
SR are is a magical place and a great place to take a girl for a romantic few days. In addition to the temples there are some really wonderful little restaurants and bars there too.
Why not spend your first few days in PP, find a girl, and then finish the trip of with her in SR? I think this would be the best way to game the situation.
[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;1954862]I am sure action can be done in S, but PP is much much better. In fact its probably one of the best destinations for the hobby in Asia, thought the scene is quite small it si fun and the Khmer girsl are very charming in their own way.
SR are is a magical place and a great place to take a girl for a romantic few days. In addition to the temples there are some really wonderful little restaurants and bars there too.
Why not spend your first few days in PP, find a girl, and then finish the trip of with her in SR? I think this would be the best way to game the situation.[/QUOTE]I agre with Uncle Volodya. I love the temples and come one or two time every year. Bring in your own girl from Phnom Penh or Sihanoukville. Many cambodian girl have never been in Siem Reap and will love if you invite them.
[QUOTE=AskeAske;1954952]I agre with Uncle Volodya. I love the temples and come one or two time every year. Bring in your own girl from Phnom Penh or Sihanoukville. Many cambodian girl have never been in Siem Reap and will love if you invite them.[/QUOTE]Agree with PP over REP for ease of action and the approach of bringing your performer in to satisfy you would be a great tactic but really not necessary. Simply get your driver to take you over to the real Khmer pub street around 8 pm and hit all the KTV's to pick out your lady. I wouldn't waste time by booking a karaoke room for an hour and interviewing a bunch of girls with your driver. I have been to them all and optimized my time and outcomes by simply sitting down with Mama for a quick beer or a tip and sharing what you want. You will always walk through a little gauntlet of 2-16 lady's sitting at the front of all entrances and I would just stop and smile while scanning the roster. If I didn't see any prospects I wouldn't enter and walk to the next one. The earlier you go, the more that will be staged out front versus back in the room or at the outside lounges etc.
I emphasized not to waste my time bringing any to the table that weren't down with what I was seeking or would suddenly become dick shy in the room. There was almost always at least 1-2 from her flock that would be game. Negotiate the time and your expectations and where and what will occur as almost all will not speak a lick of english when back at room. No need to pay the lady up front but I always conveyed through Mama that a tip will occur if performance was good. Settle up with KTV and take care of Mama and depart with your girl. The stuff about them having to follow you separately was crap as I found only one time that to be the case as she had her own moto. The rest hoped in my Tuk Tuk or we walked together etc.
I wouldn't try the above approach at the higher end Platinum KTV as it would be wiser for you to go ahead and invest an hour in one of the back rooms for identifying your best lady. The Mama there understands English well and will bring only the ones back that align with your goals. Mama was game to here if someone wanted but I never did as there were over 50 younger girls available. Out of all the girls picked from the ones Mama brought back over a couple weeks, only 2 spoke or understood decent enough English. Be advised that your initial investment will be about $75 for the hour of fun and securing of your lady but this will pay dividends as you can arrange whatever you want day or night for the remainder of your trip with some better quality. I would bring your driver into the room as well and take care of him while he supplements as a vector assuming you found one at the outset that spoke english!
Just wish the Angkor beer was colder at all these places as I ain't a fan of beer with ice!
I think next time I will bring a few of them American frozen beer condoms!
Have fun Bruh's!
I hear they have a great one at Siem Reap?
Top Town. Platinum. Feelings and Sok San (club Pattaya) are four popular ktvs close to town. Sok San charges $15 an hour for a room. Platinum charges $10 an hour. The other two are $15 an hour. Girls cost $10 each an hour in all of them except platinum. Platinum girls are $3 an hour. Pattaya lets you be alone with the girls. Platinum will not let you make the room attendant leave. Pattaya girls twice poured a third of a bottle of vodka into the ice bucket when they thought I was too drunk to notice and tried to get me to buy a new one. When I confronted them they said I should have told them that I was going to be a big spending regular and they would not have done this. But it didn't stop them doing it the second night I went back.
Platinum doesn't sell bottles of vodka or any other spirits except whiskey and maybe rum. Vodka is about $50 bottle in Pattaya. The beer gardens in the same street as platinum are quite Scungy. And the girls are not stunning. Platinum tries to get unto select from just two girls but tell them to bring them all up and you can pick from 20. Funny with 20 squashed into your room.
The girls are sacked if they take off any clothes but I managed to get them to whip out my cock and play with it as we messed around on the couches. Had the girls touching each other's breasts as kissing. Some pretend to drink and are less fun but you just need to replace these ones with better ones the following night.
There are dozens of wechat girls and they post multiple pics each say do you know it's really them but some look like ladybiys. Mickys bar has lots of ugly girls who will drink with you for free or play pool. There was one good looking one. Massage shops are everywhere. $5 -20 tip for HJ but I heard them get $60 from a Hong Kong dude. Most won't let you touch them but you can strike it lucky sometimes. I had a nice one that let me put my finger all the way inside her and she wiped my finger afterwards. She was so nice. If you tell them you already had a massage recently you can get them just to play with your cock for an hour or two for $5 without cumming. Or you can pay $5 an hour for two. Each. And get them to lie beside you on the mattress and fool around a bit. Not bad for $10 plus tips. You can manipulate a much chewer price if you know how. I had two girls sleeping with me for three hours in a shop. $45. Fun. They slept with their hands and legs over me in the middle.
Next night go back. One girl same one new one. Soon realize new one not so beautiful up close. Bit older. First one just 18 but looks 27. New one looks 27 far away. Looks 40 close up. First one dance like sexy club girl. Second one dance like old hooker. Feel repulsed when she touch me not having fun. First girl ask what wrong. Make vomit face and point to new girl. Request papas an come and take girl away. Bring new one. $5 old for bad one. New one better. One hour rubbing bottom.
On cock in dance floor. Grinding. Nearly cum standing up. Original girls kissing me same time standing up. Bending over cock rubbing. After two hours papa asks if want finish. Say need more time. We turn off music and talk to girls. And lie on couch and sleep. Then girls get up put on k pop. OMG. So sexy dancing and singing to crazy k pop. I wish I discovered KTV 10 years ago. No western people in venue. Only me. Fist night bill $188. Tips $30+ each girl. Second night bill $110. Tips $20 each girl. Third night bill $145. Tips $50 each girl. No sex. No cum. Just fun. Can take girl room for boom boom. But me no want. Spend all day massage shops. Can not bom boom all day and night.
Hello,
Right now in SR. There are some real nice looking girls here. A pity they are not available for sex.
Will visit the local pub Street this evening.
Yesterday I was invited by the hotel tuk tuk driver to join him and the hotel manager for some fun. Will ask him for some extra info to decide if it could be fun. If they can connect me to ladies as pretty as the one from the manager it could be big fun.
The ladies at Mikey's bar seem to be the same as last year.
I wish I could trigger some of the sales ladies selling these scarfs and shirts to join me. But probably they have never given a sloppy BJ.
Greetings,
Frits.
Hello,
Yesterday evening I did take a look at some of the massage shops located at high school Road and the connecting roads. Most of the ladies there are a bit overweight because when they are not working they sit outside playing cards or their mobile phones and eating all day.
But found a very nice looking 20 year old. I mean she yelled massage when I cycled by. When I did come closer she got almost silent. I guess she knows about less than 50 English words but somehow she still did trigger me. Must have been her nice smile and firm titties. So decided to go inside.
Most of these massage shops on this road are very basic. You should not be surprised if you see a rat. In fact I did, he must be living under one of the beds for sure.
Service was so so because no blow job only funding with condom which is almost essential if you go to these places where the locals go. Even though we could basically not communicate the overall experience was still nice. Being close to a smiling pretty girl has its charms.
I might go there again.
It a long road and including its sideways there are about 60 maybe even more shops. If you cycle you need to pay attention to the traffic maybe just stop cycling and walk once you see a massage board. Some shops are open 24 hours.
Greetings,
Frits
Spent a few days in Siem Reap and checked out the scene. The massage shops off Pub St had mostly uglier ladies for FS quoting around $30-50. One Vietnamese looking cute girl claimed she would do FS for $50. She seemed reluctant to do FS so decided to pass, as they tried to pawn off a much uglier girl for the same price. Mikey's had only ugly or old women. Nothing interesting was there.
Checked out the club Pattaya and another KTV that was quite large near the Angkor Paradise Hotel. They wanted $60, down from $100, for FS from an average looking Cambodian girl. Decided to pass. Club Pattaya did not have anything interesting either and wanted similar prices. Most of the girls available are average at best.
Finally found one very nice looking natural Cambodian girl who was 25 at a small open-air KTV near Abacus Ln and Khmer Pub St. It took about an hour to negotiate with everyone, including my tuk tuk who spoke good English. We finally settled on $50 for an hour with a room that was just down the road from the KTV which was very basic. I'm thinking she only got maybe $30 from the deal as the manager and tuk tuk driver took a cut.
She was alright in bed. Good BBBJ. Let me play with her pussy. Had average be tits. No babies and nice body. Natural beauty. Quiet and reserved girl but dressed to kill in high heels as a hostess.
This place has potential but the girls seem quite conservative compared with Thai women. It's hard to find a hot girl for FS but is possible with a good guide and a few hours.
I had met a few girls on Wechat who claimed they offered FS for $50 on average. The girls apparently have a manager who claims the girl will come to you. After waiting a few hours a girl shows up with a driver. Not the same girl as in the photos. The girl does not speak any English and can barely communicate with the Cambodian front desk girl at the hotel. The Vietnamese manager says I need to go to their place to see the girls as none of these girls has a valid ID to turn into the hotel as per their guest policy. When the Cambodian girl tells me in English how dangerous this is and what has happened to visitors in the past who have been robbed by these groups, I declined to go with the manager to their place. The manager became upset and demanded I pay her $40 for her time, coming down to $10 as a desperate plea for any cash. I told her to get lost as she clearly did not deliver what had been promised, a girl to my room with proper ID, agreed beforehand via chat.
She left upset but with nothing she could do. The hotel receptionist explained that going with these Vietnamese groups who are illegal, without ID, is a huge risk and many men in the past have gotten in trouble with the gangs which traffic them in. Apparently the Vietnamese have a bad reputation among the Cambodians for not having having the best morals. Better to stick with the Cambodian girls or girls with identification from another country. Going to an illegal spot with the managers you have no protection if things do not work out.
I didn't see your post earlier. I hope it is not too late. I did the Flight of the Gibbon at US $ 109.00. It's just incredible and thrilling. You, or anyone for that matter, must try it.
[QUOTE=Lonely566;1956893] I hear they have a great one at Siem Reap? [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Manfield04;1975964]I didn't see your post earlier. I hope it is not too late. I did the Flight of the Gibbon at US $ 109.00. It's just incredible and thrilling. You, or anyone for that matter, must try it.[/QUOTE]Gezzz. Hope it lasts a couple hours for that price.
The tour lasts almost half a day. I had booked through an agency. The representatives of the agency came to my hotel for the booking formalities.
[QUOTE=Lonely566;1982513]Gezzz. Hope it lasts a couple hours for that price.[/QUOTE]
Went to Blue7 massage spa near pub street for oil massage. A couple of pretty and not so pretty girls inside. Age between 18 and 40+. I was immediately attracted to one girl, the receptionist. Her name is Nhen, calls herself Rose in the shop. After some talks she agreed to do the 90 min. Massage. The rooms are very big, can be locked and have shower and toilet attached. The massage had very good strength and was yet very sensual. After 60 min. She continued in the nude with a nice hand job. She has a very nice 23 year old body. Touching everywhere was OK.
Price: US $19 for the massage and US $20 for Rose.
Judging by reports, looks like SR is good for temples only and that is what I plan to do. However I thought I will ask you guys if you have any suggestions for a clean, decent hotel for a night or two for quite sleep.
[QUOTE=Plan77;1995445]Judging by reports, looks like SR is good for temples only and that is what I plan to do. However I thought I will ask you guys if you have any suggestions for a clean, decent hotel for a night or two for quite sleep.[/QUOTE]Angkor Pearl.
[QUOTE=GhamiBoon;1985041]Went to Blue7 massage spa near pub street for oil massage. A couple of pretty and not so pretty girls inside. Age between 18 and 40+. I was immediately attracted to one girl, the receptionist. Her name is Nhen, calls herself Rose in the shop. After some talks she agreed to do the 90 min. Massage. The rooms are very big, can be locked and have shower and toilet attached. The massage had very good strength and was yet very sensual. After 60 min. She continued in the nude with a nice hand job. She has a very nice 23 year old body. Touching everywhere was OK.
Price: US $19 for the massage and US $20 for Rose.[/QUOTE]You paid 19 dollar for one hour massage and 20 dollar for a handjob?
[QUOTE=Plan77;1995445]Judging by reports, looks like SR is good for temples only and that is what I plan to do. However I thought I will ask you guys if you have any suggestions for a clean, decent hotel for a night or two for quite sleep.[/QUOTE]Angkor Secrets Garden. Very clean and cheap hotel.
I can confirm that both Angkor.
Secret and Angkor Pearl are nice hotels, the Pearl being more classy of the two. The pickings are rather slim in Siem reap, those looking for looks will be terribly disappointed.
This is getting pathetic!
Just 2 over years, ago I never paid more than 25 USD in SR. Some asked 30 and I always managed down to 25.
Reading the forum, you guys start to pay 50 USD. For girls that have no ass, no boobs and are completely passive + zero skill on BJ.
I am a punter, what's happening here started to happen 10 years ago in China.
What used to be 300 RMB is now found at 1500 RMB.
Group seems to have had no activity for a while! Doing the RTFF ahead of an upcoming trip and trying to stay current! May be I will update once I get there in a month!
[QUOTE=Plan77;1995445]Judging by reports, looks like SR is good for temples only and that is what I plan to do. However I thought I will ask you guys if you have any suggestions for a clean, decent hotel for a night or two for quite sleep.[/QUOTE]You can try the Golden Butterfly. I have been staying there for years. Rooms about $$35.00 to $40.00 and they are big and some have balconies. Small restaurant and walking distance to nightlife. You can read reviews on TripAdivisor. They also have airport pick up.
[QUOTE=KrisMonger;2028513]Group seems to have had no activity for a while! Doing the RTFF ahead of an upcoming trip and trying to stay current! May be I will update once I get there in a month![/QUOTE]To Kris.
This all depend what are you comparing to I first come here back in 2002 mongering is good and cheap, if you compare to other mongering country like Thailand, PI, Indonesia or China I would said no it is much better in Phnom penh now too many tourist now day driving price up.
Fast Eddie 48.
Where can I get a prostate massage in Siem Reap?
Was in Siem reap last week. One of many regular visits. Wanted some daytime fun, which is rather limited.
Walked down the Night market road from Sivatha. Approx a third of the way down on the right side is a small shop. Was approached by a nice girl who offerred the usual massage and happy ending. Told her I did not want massage and was then offerred happy ending and yum yum. Told her I wanted the "works", but she declined saying she was "too young" '.
Another girl, 20 years old, about 4'6" hearing our conversation offerred the works for $30. There then followed a protracted conversation betweeen 3 girls before I was led upstairs. On entering the air-con room, the other 2 women came in. I was told to undress which I refused to do until the other 2 went. Then I was told there was a $9 charge for the room and massage I was not having. I got up to go, but was then told no extra charge and the other 2 girls went.
We both undressed, and all services were provided. My girl clearly enjoyed it, cumming twice somewhat loudly. At the end, despite our huge age difference, she complimented me on being very good. Left feeling very satisfied.
Decided to do a side tour from my Thailand trip and see the temple ruins. Last minute RT airfare on Thai Smile cost me 220 us. I was only going for one day so picked an early flight out like 730 am landing an hour later. Ordered a one night stay on airbnb for like 37 us in a 5 unit villa. Excellent service and location, place was called Pub Street Private Villa Pool SPA WiFi 15 Mb #8533; on the website. Real name is Reasey Boutique Villa, not sure why they have it listed different maybe local laws. Do not let this deter you as it was one of the best small operation hotels I have ever stayed in. I prefer smaller places you tend to get more personalized service and do not have those long check in or out times due to large groups. Since I was only spending the one day, I hired car service from them at 15 us for airport pickup then 45 us to take me around the 3 ruins I visited. I did not have the time to do proper tours which would have been cheaper I believe. But having a private care take you where you needed to go, then wait and take you to next place I felt 45 us was a bargain. The ac car helped ne get some recharge between ruins as it is pretty hot walking out there. Some notes from the trip. There is visa on arrival and it cost 30 us dollars and 2 extra if you do not have photos. There is a ATM giving out dollars in the area so no worries there. In fact us dollars is used alot in place of local currency. To get to the ruins you need to first purchase a pass at this centralized area in town for the purpose. It costs 37 us for a day pass, they put your picture on it so cannot reuse. By about 2 pm I had visited 3 ruins and had enough. You must cover your shoulders and have short below the knees, sandals ok. Returned to villa and spent some quality time in the pool. After nap, walked the famous pub street and night market. I wanted something more local so asked my driver from the day tour if he would be willing to take me somewhere local for dinner and a beer. He knew exactly what I wanted, wink. First was a dinner and show with Cambodian folk dance then off to a part of the city that has like outdoor beer gardens with live music and and and "GIRLS". I was not expecting to monger here and came to rest up from bkk. But what the hell, its easy to tell these type of bars as the girls hangout in front on benches. You select one to drink and eat with during your stay. I don't think it can be done without a local to smooth the communication. The prices I was given was 20000 local currency which is like 5 bucks for the exit fee and 40 us for hour to girl at your place. I saw at least 6 or so bars of this type on the road with maybe 10+ girls in each. Maybe more elsewhere, but the outdoor air was cool and drinks and food cheap, I enjoyed myself. I took the prettiest one which happened to be pretty young as well. Surprising she had a nice rack, maybe solid see. Should have known it would be starfish event. Zero communication, young and shy, got her naked on the bed and started to msg her body, very nice but then she starts that zone out look and what your left with is a human shell. Boner killer for me. No need to waste a shot since I was returning to Thailand next day. I told her she could leave and took a dip in the pool.
Driver's name is Yang Kong and can be reached at [EMAIL]yangkong9999@gmail.com[/EMAIL].
Now he is the villas driver so be discreet I'm not sure if he is allowed to freelance at night but he did with me. I tipped him 10 dollars and paid for drinks and food. We did not negotiate anything so don't think he is set up for that. Maybe describe what you want and how much you will pay to start things off with him.
I have written him now to get me the street name of these bars location so will report back when I have it.
GF.
It's been about 10 yr (or longer) since I've been to SR (mostly PP)- headed there this weekend.
There used to be a small chicken farm not too far from downtown (quick moto ride).
Still around?
Or any other low-end (Snooky pier) type action?
I was in Sieam Reap 2 weeks ago, in Night market I have found a nice girl, in the street first she proposed me a body massage 30 minutes for 5 usd I said ok so we went upstairs and after 10 minutes she asked me do you want more? She proposed me 70 usd for BJ and finished HJ, I said too expensive and we agreed for 20 usd, It was pleasant (I asked her to be naked no problem she had a very nice body) , nice woman her name Lilly.
My advice I you want more than a foot massage or a neck massage ask in the street not women dressed in uniform like a nurse but women dressed sexy with high heels.
Mongering is alive and well although a bit pricey and not easy to find.
Lots of KVM bars in a whole street devoted to clubs. The one I frequented was called Pattaya and can easily be reached by flagging down a Tut Tut. Nice ambiance and some stunning girls.
[QUOTE=KrisMonger;2028513]Group seems to have had no activity for a while! Doing the RTFF ahead of an upcoming trip and trying to stay current! May be I will update once I get there in a month![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Shockman;2105748]Mongering is alive and well although a bit pricey and not easy to find.
Lots of KVM bars in a whole street devoted to clubs. The one I frequented was called Pattaya and can easily be reached by flagging down a Tut Tut. Nice ambiance and some stunning girls.[/QUOTE]Going to Siem Riep my one chance to monger in Cambodia. Any details appreciated. Did they have rooms on site or do I need to get a guest friendly hotel?
The KVMs I visited sent me over to to a motel like place which was pretty decent with AC and had the girl ride separately to meet me there. I would suggest asking your Tuk Tuk guy to stay with you even if you're going for a multi-hour session so you're assured of a return trip. They are happy to oblige for a small fee.
I did not try to arrange for the girl to visit my room although I did not see any sign that they will prevent you from doing so as long as you book for double occupancy.
I lucked out with a stunner who was a total GFE but landed a bit of a dead fish on the one night when my she was not available so YMMV.
IMHO mongering is Siem Reap was pretty simple because the Tuk Tuk guys were constantly asking if I wanted girls.
[QUOTE=CharmCityDave;2106135]Going to Siem Riep my one chance to monger in Cambodia. Any details appreciated. Did they have rooms on site or do I need to get a guest friendly hotel?[/QUOTE]
Don't hold me to this, and my memory is sketchy but I want to say it's in the region of USD 100-150 including the room for an hour and one go.
[QUOTE=Shockman;2106959]The KVMs I visited sent me over to to a motel like place which was pretty decent with AC and had the girl ride separately to meet me there. I would suggest asking your Tuk Tuk guy to stay with you even if you're going for a multi-hour session so you're assured of a return trip. They are happy to oblige for a small fee.
I did not try to arrange for the girl to visit my room although I did not see any sign that they will prevent you from doing so as long as you book for double occupancy.
I lucked out with a stunner who was a total GFE but landed a bit of a dead fish on the one night when my she was not available so YMMV.
IMHO mongering is Siem Reap was pretty simple because the Tuk Tuk guys were constantly asking if I wanted girls.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Shockman;2105748]Mongering is alive and well although a bit pricey and not easy to find.
Lots of KVM bars in a whole street devoted to clubs. The one I frequented was called Pattaya and can easily be reached by flagging down a Tut Tut. Nice ambiance and some stunning girls.[/QUOTE]You have to be very careful in Siem Reap. If they smell blood, they will quote you a very high price. I was taken to Pattaya by a Tuk Tuk Driver, and the first girl quoted me $200 US for short term. I had a few.
Drinks with her, and told I could pay her $100 for the night and a tip for good service. This was around midnight and she accepted. Service was pretty good, including morning sex. She even spent the day with me visiting the temples.
My second night in Siem Reap, I went to some dance clubs on Pub Street. Lots of Cambodian girls there, but most were with friends and boyfriends.
Sorry, I can't remember the names of the clubs, but one had 3 levels with a rooftop patio that had a live band. It was early in the night, but I spotted a few freelance girls. There were quite a few tourists.
We walked down Pub Street (it is only about 2 blocks long), and there were 2 cute girls at some kind of road side pub. We had a drink with them and went to another pub. We were sitting on the outside of one of the pubs, because my friends did not seem to be in the mood to.
Get in the middle of the action. Close to the dance floor there seemed to be quite a few girls who were freelancers. Of the ones that were not with guys, one caught my eye. Her friend was with a guy, and was trying to set her up with his friend. As I walked by we locked eyes, and I.
Leaned in and told her "don't go with that guy, you should be with me" She laughed. It told her to come find me later.
Back outside with my friends, I noticed the 2 girls that we had met at the roadside pub coming towards us. One was just my style, but my 2 buddies were acting like stick in the muds. I brought the 2 girls over and sat them down next to my 2 buddies, and told them to buy the girls drinks.
I rolled the dice hoping that the girl I had spoken earlier would still be available. We had a drink or two, and I noticed that my girl had come off the dance floor and was scanning the crowd. When she spotted me she came right over.
She is not my type, but on this trip, I decided to expand my horizons. This girl is a bit shorter, with nice curves, and facially pretty, but not my style.
We had a drink and started dancing. Then we went to another dance club. One of the girls and guy were not into the dance scene. So they left. At some point, my girl informed me that she was working. She told me her price was $100 US for the night. I was having a great time, so no argument from me.
We went home and my girl was so drunk, I could hear her throwing up in the bathroom. She showered, brushed her teeth and came back out. On the bed she was still game for sex. She grabbed a condom, put it on and told me to fuck her. The sex was actually pretty fun, it was just animal fucking. Doggie, froggie, and some other positions that I don't know. We passed out shortly afterwards.
When we woke up the next morning, we showered and started making out. She was full GFE, and I was surprised that she managed to get me off again. The funny part of it was that she was so drunk she forgot that we had fucked the night before.
I gave her the $100 US + $20 tip. She was very happy.
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[QUOTE=Shockman;2106961]Don't hold me to this, and my memory is sketchy but I want to say it's in the region of USD 100-150 including the room for an hour and one go.[/QUOTE]Why pay so much? Siem Reap is not a good place for mongering. I go one time every year, but now I always bring my own woman. If you go from Phnom Penh, take a bargirl. Many cambodian girls have never seen Angkor Wat and really want to go with you.
Going to be there for a few nights. Not a mongering trip but if I can find decent local talent will go for it just to check that box (pardon the bad pun), even if it cost a little more. Can someone recommend a decent to upscale hotel that is guest friendly?
[QUOTE=AskeAske;2106994]Why pay so much? Siem Reap is not a good place for mongering. I go one time every year, but now I always bring my own woman. If you go from Phnom Penh, take a bargirl. Many cambodian girls have never seen Angkor Wat and really want to go with you.[/QUOTE]Can you explain how that usually works? Seems risky to just ask a bar girl to travel with you, never done that before. How do you vet her?
[QUOTE=CharmCityDave;2107353]Going to be there for a few nights. Not a mongering trip but if I can find decent local talent will go for it just to check that box (pardon the bad pun), even if it cost a little more. Can someone recommend a decent to upscale hotel that is guest friendly?[/QUOTE]I have stayed at the Saem Siem Reap Hotel twice. Very good hotel, a $2 tuk tuk from Pub Street, and girl friendly.
[QUOTE=CharmCityDave;2107353]Going to be there for a few nights. Not a mongering trip but if I can find decent local talent will go for it just to check that box (pardon the bad pun), even if it cost a little more. Can someone recommend a decent to upscale hotel that is guest friendly?[/QUOTE]Message me for a girl that I met at a pub. Great girl, great service.
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Seeking urgent help. Does anyone know of a nice clean massage place which offers extra services in Siem Reap?? It has to be clean or high end, that's the only thing.
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Hey,
I'm in Siem Reap now and hopefully someone can learn from my mistakes. I tried to get a girl from WeChat, video chatted, and it seemed good, wanted $100 for 2 pops. Scheduled her to come to my hotel, she eventually shows up an hour late and wasn't sure it was the same girl in the video call but I was okay w / it. Once in my room she asked for the money upfront, saying stuff like she's had a Chinese guy not pay her before. I made the mistake of paying her upfront. So she freshens up in the bathroom a little bit and makes an effort to close the bathroom window curtain, then comes out. Then she gets me to strip, gives me a short BJ and claims I need to shower. So I shower a little bit, but definitely open the curtain back up so I could keep an eye on her. Then after I got out came all the excuses, she claimed she had a mamasan waiting on the street that needed to be paid and she'll be back in 5 min. But she didn't want to leave her bag or anything, claiming her passport was in her bag. I told her she could take her passport and leave the bag, then she claims she can't understand / no English. There's lot of back and forth, and eventually offer her $20 for her time and ask for the money back but she wasn't having it. Says I can come down to the lobby and talk to the mamasan. At this point I consider this a lost cause, I'm definitely not going to assault anyone to get some money back. So I walk down to the lobby w / her and she gets on her friend's motorbike and rides away.
In hindsight, I should've refused her when she didn't match her video call and definitely definitely should not have paid her upfront. Right now I'm happy I didn't get anything stolen or get shaken down by any police, but definitely could've ended way worse!
[QUOTE=BabaGanoosh;2126587]I'm definitely not going to assault anyone to get some money back. [/QUOTE]Then you can't pay in advance.
The question is will you really learn from this, or will you do it again. And again?