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Joe_zop,
I'm sure I wrote 'more or less the scamzone' and 'Sois6&8 are safer'.
I didn't say: 'If you go to WS you will die!'
It just means, in your words, 'be a bit more careful there'.
BTW Sois6&8 (&7&1&2&some more) don't need extra police attention...
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Hey... Anyone there between 10th and 19th march? I will... Want to share some drink, laughs... girls... hunting?
Just drop a mail at ricion@romandie.com
Take care...
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I've been in Pattaya for three days and met up with Dashing Don and JoshScoresEZ, a couple of great guys and fellow mongers. If I were to give another report, it would be much like my last (and rather lengthy) posting, so I'll spare you the details here. Pattaya's cooler in the evenings this time of year, and there are plenty of nice looking girls willing to go for 500/1000 ST/LT. It appears that the city isn't very busy, considering that this is the high season.
A group of us have talked about meeting here sometime in September, so mark your calendars for that possibility.
Muffdriver
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Hey Guys;
It is finally my time. I leave San Fancisco at 12:15 AM on Mar 9 and arrive in BKK 11:15AM on Mar 10? ( I still don't quite understand the time thing). I have a lot of questions but I am not sure what to ask.
Since my destination is Pattaya, should I try to go directly to P as soon as I get there or stay overnight in BKK?
What about hotels? I want to find a room below $30 or about $25 but I want a comfortable place with good private bathing facilities and convenient to the action. I was looking at the President oin line but Tap said that it wouldn't be too good an idea for me. Do I need to book ahead and how?
I also need some nuts and bolts advice on getting what I want but I am not sure what I need to ask.
I am also curious about but not attached to the possibility of getting a suit made. About how much does one cost and how long do you need to get one done?
These are the only questions I can think of for now.
najene
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Najene,
Welcome back!
So you arrive in BKK at 11:15AM, that is perfect timing if you want to go to Pattaya on the same day. In fact, you should be able to take the easiest mode of transport to Pattaya: The ThaiAirwaysLimousine Bus at 12.00AM (midday). That may sound a bit silly, a Limousine Bus, but it is a busservice run by ThaiAirways. A ticket is B200.
This is their website, prices on the bottom of the page:
[url]http://www.thaiair.com/thailand/limousine/fares.htm[/url]
Here is how to find their counter in BKK(=DonMuang)Airport:
[url]http://www.thaiair.com/thailand/limousine/counter.htm[/url]
They will drop you off at their Pattaya office on ThirdRoad. From there a motorcycle to the pleasure zone (Soi8) is B30-40
'I want to find a room below $30 or about $25', that would be 30xB42=B1260 max.
Allow me to laugh out loud: HAHAHA! It will be hard to find a hotel that is that expensive!
I (as usual) suggest you, being a firsttime visitor, go to Soi8 and make a pick from a dozen hotels ranging from B350 to, OK, the max price you mentioned.
I like FlipperLodge for 'top-end'.
Pool, 50m from the beach, nice terrace outside overlooking the Soi8 bars, spacious rooms, B1,000 for a double, no 'deluxe' or 'extra bed' needed...
Their website is here:
[url]http://www.flippergroup.com/lodgepic/lodgemain.html[/url]
For mid March there is no need to book in advance. There will be rooms plenty available. However, for your peace of mind, perhaps you should book for the first night.
Booking here:
[url]http://www.hotelthailand.com/pattaya/flipperlodge/booking.html[/url]
There are dozens of tailors in Pattaya who can make you a suit within 48 hours. I don't have clothes made anymore, I buy of the rack only now. Both Mike's Shopping Mall and RoyalGarden, both on BeachRoad, have all the top brands in their collections at prices you will find hard to believe.
If you checked out this possibility and still want to find a (good)tailor, best ask a local/expat for recommendations.
March is a hot month. Bring just one small bag (I never bring more than 10kg/20lb). If you bring a suitcase full of stuff, it is full of stuff you won't use! One bag also means 'carry on' luggage eg no need to check it in, no need to wait at luggage claim, saves time - up to half an hour in BKK.
Even if you arrive at 11.45, and hurry, you can catch the LimousineBus...
The time thing is indeed a bit strange. But you will fly across the dateline. This can be VERY confusing!
Do check with the airline! You don't want to miss your flight. Dammit, you waited long enough!
Whatever airline you fly, your mileage will be staggering, so do get a frequent flyer card with that airline. Check their website, on line sign-up often gets you extra miles for free!
These are the only answers I can think of for now:)! We can fasten the nuts and bolts later...
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by najene
[i]Hey Guys;
It is finally my time. I leave San Fancisco at 12:15 AM on Mar 9 and arrive in BKK 11:15AM on Mar 10? ( I still don't quite understand the time thing). [/i][/QUOTE]
Here is the explanation about time:
Thailand is ahead of SF 15 hours so if it's night time in SF then it's day time in BKK the next day. When you travel out bound (i.e., leaving SF) and fly transpacific you will cross the international dateline.
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Just got back after 4 days in BKK and 4 in Pattaya. As I already posted in the BKK section, I will confine this to Pattaya.
First off, I met up with fellow monger, Muffdriver. As it was my first time meeting a WSG monger I was curious as to how it would work out. Both I and a friend met Muff in a bar on 2nd Road last Tuesday. At first we exchanged pleasantries and kind of felt each other out. This was understandable considering that many people don't want to jeopardize their livelihood etc. back in the USA. Hilariously, however, the conversation soon turned to barfines, fucking experiences, blowjobs, jokes etc. Muffdriver is an entertaining and well-travelled monger who we got to see quite a bit during the four days.
A word on the hotel: the Hard Rock. Stay away! It is mostly frequented by Japanese families and the hotel doesn't want mongers staying there. The girls were always stopped for lengthy perusals of their ID and multiple questions about the length of their stay. During one interrogation where the reception clerk wanted to know just how long my girl would be in the room, I replied " until I finish fucking her." He bowed, Thai-style, with a phony smile. He then informed me that if she stayed overnight, there would be a 900 baht charge. This, despite that I had reserved a double room. I protested loudly; he conferred with another clerk and he admitted his mistake. Boiling over, I loudly informed him that the Hard Rock stank, and that I would never be coming back. He bowed, thanked me, and again with the smile.
The Hard Rock was $97 a night. Muffdriver's hotel was $18 and was really nice--the Sabai Hotel (Inn, Lodge or something) on Soi 2. Very monger friendly he assured me, to the point where the manager would go out to purchase condoms for a monger!!
I won't waste space on prices; suffice to say that after the US, its really cheap. A word on go-go girls though. It seems that the best looking, are the worst in bed. I barfined one from Pigalle on Walking Street. She was beautiful and seemed to have a nice personality, but she barely participated in bed. The usual 5s and 6s, bargirls, were much more enthusiastic and never needed to be encouraged to "Smoke" or things like that.
There were many funny moments and lots of laughs. When you go from a world of work work work, to where the biggest decision of your day is who to barfine, the incongruity of it is often hilarious. At one point, in a bar, a girl asked me what I liked to do. Already in the LOS groove and without thinking, I immediately responded that I liked "smoke" and "boom boom." By the look on her face I knew that this was the wrong answer and that she really wanted to know my interests. Weakly, I relayed my interest in tennis, travel etc.
After barfining a girl and not being happy with her performance I expressed this to a girl from the same bar who was with my friend. She must have relayed my concerns to all the girls in the bar because when I returned a few days later, my barfine came up to me and told me that she was angry with me because I was "talkshow", no longer "sweetmouth" but she would go out with me again as a " case study."!! Hilarious.
"Schmuck of the year" award should go to the farang who, I overheard, tried to impress a bargirl by telling her that he was a one-woman man. Yup, its true.
Pattaya is so full of girls that I never got around to seeing the BJ bars or other sights. There are so many other things to report that the post would be too long. Just many laughs, and many girls.
Don
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Hi everyone,
Going to be in Pattaya March 6 until March 10. Staying at Flipper at Soi 8 or any other Hotel around as that was a good place last time (for hunting and action). Anyone there at this time who wants to meet up with me ? Anyone intrested in some group action ? 3-some with a nice TG or 2-3 couples ? Sorry to ask, but would be a change instead of the "normal" boom boom I use to do over there. Shared fun, more fun.....
mail me at : "villhakul@yahoo.com
PS Does anyone know a good massage place close to Soi 8 ? Last time I didn't look for one but would love to get a massage and "treatment" after hours of flying the evening I arrive.
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Muffdriver,
Field report please! I am boring myself to death at home and am in dire need of war stories from someone who is on location.....Soi Post Office, Beer Bar at Sabaidee, Da2?? Ok I will wire barfine via Western Union in exchange and perhaps you can ask one of the ladies how to pick it up - how about that for turning the tables!!!
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[quote]originally posted by najene
[i]i am also curious about but not attached to the possibility of getting a suit made. about how much does one cost and how long do you need to get one done?
najene [/i][/quote]
there are 100+ tailor in pattaya mostly indians providing tailoring service. price between us$ 75 to 100 (including cloth). may be little expensive if you go for better cloth. priced tailor is tajmahal at 2nd road in front of royal garden. otherwise grovers below alibaba restuarent (in front of tops super center in pattaya center road near beach). then there are many rep001tered at beach road or 2nd road.
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The Flipper sounds good. Which is better the lodge or hotel. How can I book a double. The only choices are single or twin. Is there a need to book a double to bring an overnight guest without being charged extra.
Jodomas
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Skinless and the ho from hell.
Tip of the Day: Always be sure of the lady before poppping the V.
Skinless said farewell to Korat. He ignored the over priced motor bikes outsdie the hotel (big mistake), walked, tired and got a pedi cab (the ass holes smelled of cchweap whisky). He dropped me at the wrong bus terminal wherer I got a songthaw to Terminal 2. It passes the moat on the side opposite Sokal, the one where the old ladies run the internet shop. The Pttaya bus had only seats downstairs so I skip and get put on the wrong bus (to Pattay) after asking about 20 times if it was the Pattaya bus. I return to the terminal 40 minutes later and get a shit seat in an air con bus, right up the front where tghe stewardess gives me shit about my feet. I ignore her. She tells the big Thai guy opposite me. He tells me "In Thailand feet blah blah". I tell him to tell her to fuck off and I spread my legs further" She talks shit to the driver and another loafer all the way to Pattay, when they are not stopped for some reason or another.
Finally we make it to this fabled city. The sight of huge massage parlors perks me up. I get a song thaw to 2nd Road. With backpack on and nowhere to stay, I approach a BB chick but no go. I go up a lane to find a fleapit to sleep in. Then SHE appears. Long legs and longer hair. I have to have her. Instead of checking out the hotels, I watch her vanish around the corner. I run after after. "HGello hansum woman, where u go?" "Work" Where u work and how much bar fine and how much long time (No time for talking shit about the weather. She tewlls me 200 bar fine and 1000 for her but she will settle for 800. Skinless checks out some flea pits behind Apex but all are boooked out. He finds a shiot hole (200 bt), books in for 3 nites and returns to the bar: opposite 7-11, the one furtherst from Soi 8 in that little strip. She is there eating food with a farang and 3 fat cows. Skinless says he take walk. Skinless him take walk but he has apready popped the V and is very tired.
Him go back to bar. Him see her legs. Him gotta have even though the fat cows are repulsive and htere is a 6'2" TV working behind the bar (not working as him/her get many baht from bf him live in Europe). Anyway, Oy for thatr is my sweetie's name, siuts down beside me. orders a 90 bt drink (another bad sign), then starts talking shit to one of the cows about farang bf (him no good). Skinless must be tripping or something coz he is ignoring all these bad vibes. THenshe dances up on the stage and Skinless ogles at those legs. (high boots and a sexy dress seting things off I am afraid).
She sits down beside me, talks about her 2 kids and man form Denmark, him no good. Talk about the little head doing the thinking. I ignore her belly (not really I pinch it, taking a good fistfull in my hand and make a joke that falls flat). More shit form her so I say, ok let's fuck.
We go back to my place where she makes me shower, then tells me no smoke etc (the bed is perfect for handcuffs etc). We talk about her 2 kids, man from Denmark, some other shit. I fuck her, doing all the work and wroking her up. Then she very reluctantly gives me a 10 minute shit ass massage. I get ready for a 2nd fuck. Like my wife she says not tonight darling. Now I sleep tomorrow morning u boom boom me. I tell her the law. She cries and tells me man from Denmark, him break her heart. There is plenty of other shit talk to go with this. PLenty of tears. I start fucking her again but give up. She won't even let me kiss her tits now. She cries again. Somewhere along the line we look at her photos of her kids. When she is showeriung, i check her purse (she has about 350 bt). Her whole conversation is $$, about how she needs 5000 bt to pay 4000 arrears in rent and to go to Buriram for 1 month (you do the math).
A technical detail: as we fuck, I notice her belly contracts and she looks like the young beauty she might have been (she is 33). She wais, apologises for not making me happy etc etc. AdleZ famous mantra jumps t mind. I pay her to get rid of her. Iti s only 11.30 pm. I give her 720 bt.
So Joe Zop: I paid more for 90 minutes with a lady on the verge of a nervous breakdown. That and the barfine and drink, means I must sepnd 1000 bt on myself today. It laso means a 3 day gfe is out as one nite is already gone. Jow, I had visions of kicking the shit out of you today as I pigged on the 85 bt breajfast buffet at the Diana Inn of happy memories (where the BB one gave me the clap). Paying ore does not give more. Most of these women are extremely fucked up in the head. The sight of all the gray headed old men with their young ladies is obviously food for thought. Skip the buffet: they are even making the plates smaller so you wil eat less. I also got the runs from it.
The Diana Inn breakfast is worth it only to see the customers. A Thai lady slicing a soft friend egg with a knife and trying to pick up the runing yolk with her knife, some mixed couples and their children (sme of these marriages do work). There is a noted drop in the number of mongers and more families which is where the futuree probably lies. I did not explore much yesterday due to the raving Pochauntas. This is the second time that happened to me. The other time was staying at Nana where I followed a long legged beauty (same type of boots up to the ankles, very sexy) into a 7-11 outside Nana Plaza, barfined her 600 bt and got a bait and switch (she only short times me after talking about farangs buying her jewelry. She left 5 minutes before i was going to fuck her out).
There was also a Thai beauty in Japan: leather dressed, t\ended upo taking her for a Thai meal after a so so bonk, cost over 10,000 bt in all, that one).
Moral of the story. Buyer beware. CVheck the merchandise before purchasing. Oy wil have a serious nervous breakdown very soon. These women are damaged goods. Either follow Adlez' mantra (one quick bonk, learning from Freeler by paying bottom end prices) or find a reasonable bonking machine and do her long time. If she orders an expensive drink or hints at shopping, drop her. If you are looking for love, look somewhere else.
Tapioca: the good pussy in Japan is reserved for Japanese people. You had the bottom of a very deep barrel and paid high $$ for it.
The intenret shop is now filling up woth the gray headed partially bald pony tail brigade. Time ofr me to go, most probably shopping or to get some cheap trash along Beach Road.
Joe: Plese stop talking about "choice" like we are fucking Hilary Clinton. These women are too dumb/young/ignorant to make rational choices. I canot make rational choices either even if I am old enough, ugly enough (I now feel like a fat, balding, Ich Bin ein Berliner) and educated enough to know and do otherwise. I have also engaged in unsafe sex practices. Howeve,r if I was to take the lead from Oy etc, there would ne no unsafe sex and very little sex. One of htem in Korat, I think, wanted me to wear two condoms.
Joe: did you ever check out the surreal paitings. This place can be like a very bad acid trip.
Freeler: All is forgiven. I love you./ Please take me away from all this.
John Skinless xxxxxxxxxx
(Freeer": I don't really love you . I am going to go down and pick up soem beach trash. Why share a bed wirth someone who might rob you, who you cannot trust and who only fucks, EVEN ME!!!!, for money.
JS
ps: ever notice how often the wordf "baht" appears in conversations here. Now I am off ot Beach Road but I must also spend 1000bt on myself first.
Remember there are no 300 bt hos, only 300 b t Johns.
John.
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Jodomas,
A single room in Thailand is a room with one double bed.
A double, sometimes called a twin, is a room with two double beds.
So, if you want to sleep in this bed and you want your lay to sleep in the other, by all means, get yourself a twin.
Both Flippers are 'girlfriendly' and safe. The girl has to leave her id at the desk.
Do NOT barfine a girl before seeing her ID!
On the rare occasion that I actually BF a girl, I let them pay the BF, telling them they get it back if: NO problems getting into the hotel and NO f*cking bleeding pussy.
Skinless,
First the wrong busstation and then on the wrong bus, happens to everybody and it can drive you crazy! I know, I've been there.
So I bought me a bilingual map and if I'm not sure they understand me, I show them the map with the destination's name in Thai. Always works.
On the bus you were not in great danger showing the soles of your feet or shoes. In other places, like bars, karaokes or restaurants, sometimes this very rude behaviour results in death.
In Pattaya you lost sight of the most important rule: Always be in control, you decide!
I am glad you don't love me.
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Skinless, it can be summed up very succinctly: the little head was doing all the thinking, and that's always trouble no matter what you are or are not paying. 200baht, 1000baht, $500, a house or two, whatever, if you're only paying attention to the legs they're gonna lead you astray. You put up with all kinds of shit you never ordinarily would have put up with (nor would I) for any price. Don't blame that on me or my approach -- this sounds like the same story I'd expect from any newbie in LOS who got hot for a particular girl who managed absolutely to quickly figure out that fact and take advantage of it! The secret, as you very well know, of successful long-time and of value-added experience is in proper choice of partner. Most do not fit the bill. If you're gonna ignore all the bad vibes what do you expect? How you could have imagined this situation should be anything other than a quick bang and a walk is beyond me.
Absolutely, paying more does not necessarily give you more -- I don't disagree with you in the least. You've got to be selective, and make sure you're picking a winner. The point is whether you're in a place where value-added GFE is available, which is is in Pattaya or Sukhumvit, where the park in Korat apparently isn't.
The bottom line, frankly, is that based on what I've been reading in your reports, there's little or no difference in the amount you and I paid. It's a difference in emphasis. Paying 200baht five times a day or paying 1000baht once is still paying the same. The question is whether you're getting what you want -- if you are, any price is cheap, if you're not then free is too expensive.
Yup, lots of these women are screwed up -- and there's undoubtedly a higher percentage of that in Pattaya than in other places. That makes the screening process ever more important, and is also a reason to look for those who are not completely hardened pros with broken hearts and sad stories. And please, before you go off on me, remember that Pattaya is very far from my favorite place in LOS.
Yes, I checked out the surreal paintings. I was underwhelmed -- too much same-same, knock-off crap for my tastes. Nothing I haven't seen a thousand times, and the usual and understandable problem with so much Thai work for tourists, whether we're talking about women, food, or painting -- decent technique but no soul.