[QUOTE=Cemali]I will be there on april 5-10 I need advice for good quality escort girls or disco place that I can find girls who can speak english ofcourse any information mates?[/QUOTE]The best place for picking up the above, is West World Club.
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[QUOTE=Cemali]I will be there on april 5-10 I need advice for good quality escort girls or disco place that I can find girls who can speak english ofcourse any information mates?[/QUOTE]The best place for picking up the above, is West World Club.
[QUOTE=Jojosun]The best place for picking up the above, is West World Club.[/QUOTE]Next is a good place to pick up escorts as well, it's just that they charge without shame. One asked me for 500, I smiled and asked if she meant roubles, she them immediately went down to 300. I asked for how many hours, but she was vague about it, she initial said "several" and when i asked for more concretes, she said 2 hours. She was attractive, late 20s, definitely good for a lay.
Jojosun, regarding West World Club, is that a club where most girls are escorts, or a club where it's just more likely to find them? Do you recommend it at weekends or also during the week?
[QUOTE=Stavvrrooss]Next is a good place to pick up escorts as well, it's just that they charge without shame. One asked me for 500, I smiled and asked if she meant roubles, she them immediately went down to 300. I asked for how many hours, but she was vague about it, she initial said "several" and when i asked for more concretes, she said 2 hours. She was attractive, late 20s, definitely good for a lay.
Jojosun, regarding West World Club, is that a club where most girls are escorts, or a club where it's just more likely to find them? Do you recommend it at weekends or also during the week?[/QUOTE]
NEXT is a Turkish managed upper scale night club for both business men and sex tourists. It is of course frequented by normal girls and boys too, but the above mentioned clientele stick out and seems VERY plentyfull. I have only been in NEXT once, and I wont go there again.
Ok, I am not after hookers and these kind of middle east male places in general.
I go for freebes that are so much more rewarding and fun, but thats a personal choice! ;)
I have a wide net of girls that I have contact with. I takes a few years to build it up but it really pays off now :)
West world club has almost no hookers, allthough there is a strip club on the first floor. I have not been inside that strip club.
West world is a place for normal student boys and girls and rather young ones... one of the better pick up places for normal Belarus girls. I have never done a first night pull from any club or bar in belarus, but I have met a few girls in West world that have spread the legs for me on the second, third or fourth date. I have also had a few dance away the night fun, tongue kissing meetings with girls I found there...
You can also find hookers at Max Show.
//Felix
[QUOTE=Stavvrrooss]Jojosun, regarding West World Club, is that a club where most girls are escorts, or a club where it's just more likely to find them? Do you recommend it at weekends or also during the week?[/QUOTE]My apologies for the late reply.
I have been to west World Club, few times during the week and at weekends,
There were definetely a lot of girls who like to spend the night or the following nights with you on a P4P basis.
The asking price was the magic figure of $100.
I hooked up with 2 stunning students who were out to have fun, but iwish I had gone for the escorts.
I havn't got the time to wine and dine freebies, and besides it does cost more at the end.
One of the advantages of this club, is it is a huge place with plenty of choice, centrally located, and I found many girls there who spoke good english.
The strip club in the same building is not to be missed. A lot of touching is allowed, and some of the girls would be available on negotiation, for take out later.
West World Club is not to be missed on your visit.
[QUOTE=Jojosun]My apologies for the late reply.
I have been to west World Club, few times during the week and at weekends,
There were definetely a lot of girls who like to spend the night or the following nights with you on a P4P basis.
The asking price was the magic figure of $100.
I hooked up with 2 stunning students who were out to have fun, but iwish I had gone for the escorts.
I havn't got the time to wine and dine freebies, and besides it does cost more at the end.
One of the advantages of this club, is it is a huge place with plenty of choice, centrally located, and I found many girls there who spoke good english.
The strip club in the same building is not to be missed. A lot of touching is allowed, and some of the girls would be available on negotiation, for take out later.
West World Club is not to be missed on your visit.[/QUOTE]There was another place more upmarket . From memory it was called Maddisons.
Worth checking out.
A lot of WGS in the bar of Planeta hotel . It does have a good strip club as well.
I will be in Minsk this weekend. Anybody who is interested in being a wingman and do club hopping together please let me know.
Cheers,
-Hedo
He guys,
Coming week I will be in Minsk. Like to hear some pointers of the guys who are in Minsk at the moment. For all others, I will post my experiences after my travels.
Cheers from Riga,
WB
went with my friends:
wot i first want to highlight is that i was in a group of friends (of all normal non-mongering culturally interested people) including some local people so my trip wasn't all about mongering.
about belarus:
belarus is a very difficult country to get into and has a lot of annoying bureaucracy and rules. okay got my visa in my own country and is kinda annoying as you don't need visa for ukraine or moldova. registration office: such a stupid thing! i spend half a day there (even though i had help from a local friend) as there were some stuff wrong with my visa which i didn't understand though i got my visa without hassle back home. secondly you need to have a travel insurance of a belorussian insurance company, because other insurances aren't legal even though my insurance says it does cover belarus.
strong legal enforcement:
there is police and soldiers everywhere, cameras are hanging everywhere and people tend to report other people to the police if they 'commit a crime'. throwing garbage on the ground can result in a fine of 300 euros, which is as much as a monthly salary of a university graduate. so that's also why its so clean in the country. insulting the government can result in 3 years of jailtime. people of ngos have also been thrown into belorussian jail for several years for 'insulting the government'. so keep your mouth shut! there are a lot of girls when they see a foreigner like to talk negative about their country, as it gives them the opportunity to express their negative feelings about their country. in these situations i tend to tell the truth and highlight my opinion about the positive things in belarus.
my expectations before going to belarus:
i expected to really go back to the old soviet union, a country even worse than moldova. how it really was? it is an extremely clean and friendly country! even though the west pictures belarus like a communist shithole, it really is the total opposite! people are belorussian and not russian, as most people like to highlight. this means being tolerant and open to other people and not being short minded and sometimes racist against other like some russians are. belorussians are friendly to all people, as lukashenko likes to highlight in his speeches to be friendly to allied countries that support belarus (mostly russia and other communist countries like china, venezuela and cuba). racism in belarus is almost non-existent. but i do know that most girls find african people scary and dirty (as they don't know much about them and they are black), but they are not being maltreated, its just that they don't trust black people that much.
mongering in belarus:
is belarus a hidden gem? no, i don't think so though most people in belarus don't look at you as sextourist unless you are an arab. i think for arabs it's a hidden gem. the only mongers i see in belarus are men from turkey, saudi arabia, iran and many other arab/ emirates countries. why? there are a few turkish companies that are present in belarus and the owner of crowne plaza hotel (and club next) is turkish.
club next and crowne plaza hotel:
this is a special one! the lobby of the hotel is filled with loads of girls who just sit there and wait to get offered a free drink by a rich old arab geezer, which happens a lot. crowne plaza hotel is really like a homebase for the mongers in club next. sometimes you see a monger walk away for 1-2 hours away with a certain girl and afterwards they come back and split their ways. this gives me a feeling that they just went to his hotelroom for some quick action and transaction closed! and this happens a lot during nights in next. the men are mostly old rich arab businessmen and the girls are mostly young beautiful belorussian girls dressed up really fancy. i have been approached a lot by these girls but i don't like p4p as i always have gone for freebies as i am still in my mid/end 20s and look good. the prices differed between looks. some for belarus standards uggs asked me 2 girls for 200 euros for the whole night and some others asked me that amount for an hour of action, but must say those were model-quality girls.
as i made friends with a few clubgirls during shopping and had a nice chat with them, they told me something i have to share with you guys. the owner of next organizes sextrips for rich arab men from time to time (as several different girls, both partygirls and normal girls, have told me & as some different girls told me about it i guess it has a strong chance its true). and these are special parties where you need to spend some money on as it is mostly frequented by extremely wealthy arab businessmen. these are trips for around 50 arab businessmen and around 100 hot girls who aren't prostitutes but mostly students that like to go to exclusive parties and like to make friends with rich old men for the obvious reasons. they let the girls register with their passports for safety reasons for the men. the men have a blast of a time but they do pay for it. some girls were telling me this in extreme details though saying they didn't participate in it and heard it from their girlfriends who did participate, i personally think they were lying.come on.
btw, i have never been to these parties but i have a feeling that they are awesome. and i let some of these girls add me on facebook and of partygirls, most of their friends-list consist of rich old arab geezers.
my action in belarus:
clubaction, even though not my preference, i have visited a few clubs. i have not pulled from a clubnight in belarus, because i was staying at a friends place. maybe if you want to pull, get your own place. secondly i prefer getting girls from street action.
-ufo: club mostly frequented with young local people and almost no foreigners. easiest place to escalate with girls as girls are quite open to dance dirty with you and kiss you. make-out with a few girls but it annoyed me most girls don't speak a word of english. this was the most fun place to go out to.
- next: even with the loads of golddiggers and semi-prostitutes i did like club next. why? nice supermodel-looking girls walking around. the #1 most asked question was: "are you rich? " i got asked by girls. prices were really the highest in next as the cheapest beer was 20000byr = 5, 41 euros. most girls speak okay english.
- tiitan: rich locals and foreign students (mostly arab students from mslu) frequent this place. it was okay, but not great. i didn't get much result here as the only girls who talked to me wanted a free drink which i wasn't willing to give her, unless she did something for me. my standard response was: "depends how good of a kisser you are. " did kiss (make-outs) 2 girls with this approach, but only bought them a red bull for them (as i was also drinking that) which was 9000byr which is a bit more than 2 euros. but the funniest thing i did was dancing dirty with a girl that constantly got free drinks from some stupid mongers who really screw up that night i was in titan; they kept buying girls cocktails and those girls kept flirting and making out with other guys. i kissed her, looked them (the mongers) straight in their eyes and pushed her back in their direction and went back to my own group of friends. it was so fun looking in their helpless faces.
btw, most young people in belarus don't go to clubs as it is for them extremely expensive, at least the big clubs frequented by tourists where there is this ridiculously high entrance fee for men. there you will find only partygirls, golddiggers and prostitutes.
street action: my absolute favorite way of meeting girls!
why? i am in my mid/end 20s, look good, am quite fashionable and have a lot experience meeting girls during daytime (as it is still my #1 hobby). my goal was to have anal sex with a girl/freebie i met in the street without any lying and just being myself. unfortunately i wasn't able to achieve this goal but have kissed many girls, fingered some girls in the parks and have been kicked out of a mcdonalds for trying to fuck a girl in the mcdonalds toilet. just like a few minutes of my cock in her mouth and mcdonalds staff were banging against the toilet door that i should leave the toilet. it was fun!
how to approach girls? after some trial and error i got the hang out of it.
1. priviet!
2. hey, quick question do you speak english? (with a facial expression that your lost)
3. ask something (really doesn't matter what)
4. talk, sit somewhere down and escalate your conversation and escalate more physical.
5. have fun!
girls in belarus:
mentality in girls is totally different from the ones in most of eastern europe, at least a bit different. most girls in ukraine and moldova are more used to mongers and foreigners where belarus is quite a closed country where not a lot of foreigners go to.
partygirls (that frequent clubs):
girls who like to enjoy luxury and want to meet rich men who can lavish them with a luxurious lifestyle they can't afford on their own and they are willing to have sex with these older rich men. some of them are want to marry a rich old man but most of them want to have fun with a rich old man without having any plan of ever marrying a old geezer.
most girls in belarus:
they want to find a man who can give them financial security and preferably also status and money. i do think they actually fall in love with those men as their psychology is different, its like in the old caveman ages where a woman had to find a man who was able to protect them and their offspring. yes, a lot of older ugly not so rich men have a young and beautiful wife in belarus for the simple reason of financial security. and the possibilities are great when you frequent the country a lot. even though partygirls like hanging around with rich arabs, most girls look down on them for hanging out with the rich old arabs for their money, those girls are seen as sluts by most of society. i seriously have absolutely nothing against arabs but you see them really a lot in minsk!
if you want to have success with a lot of freebies on a consistent basis in belarus, i think you should have a business going on in belarus because they prefer, even if you are a foreigner, to give themselves who lives there or at least comes there quite often.
belarus versus other eastern european countries:
if you come there only, let's say, once a year i would recommend to go for p4p or go to another country as ukraine or moldova as those countries are a lot easier to get freebies. and even latvia, which is imo extremely overrated is even a lot easier to get freebies (if you are like me still young, intelligent, good-looking and are well-dressed). if you are older, i wouldn't recommend the new eu countries as latvia but more eu-wannabe-countries (moldova and ukraine) as you don't need to get a stupid visa and waste half a day at the migration office to register yourself as a tourist as you have to do in belarus. if you have some nice business going on in belarus, you are absolutely in heaven!
i hope you guys have learned from my experiences in belarus as i tried to give you guys a good view on belarus from my perspective instead of this just being your standard report.
love and carnage,
worldbank.
[QUOTE=Worldbank]Belarus is a very difficult country to get into and has a lot of annoying bureaucracy and rules. Okay got my visa in my own country and is kinda annoying as you don't need visa for Ukraine or Moldova. Registration office: such a stupid thing! I spend half a day there (even though I had help from a local friend) as there were some stuff wrong with my visa which I didn't understand though I got my visa without hassle back home. Secondly you NEED to have a travel insurance of a Belorussian insurance company, because other insurances aren't legal even though my insurance says it does cover Belarus.[/QUOTE]Does day of the week / weekend matter for Minsk nightlife? Scheduled to be there next week and trying to plan. Did the visa for extra days just in case.
For visa getting in, home country actually best -- if you have the time.
Last year in Kiev, I was thwarted by the red tape and time constraints. In Warsaw last week at B'rus Consulate no lines but invitation letter needed for USA passport. At B'rus Consulate Vilnius a queue of hundreds, but across street a visa expeditor can handle all with quick turnaround for not unreasonable fee.
Worldbank,
thanks so much for your detailed report man !
[QUOTE=Zingadoon]Does day of the week / weekend matter for Minsk nightlife? Scheduled to be there next week and trying to plan. Did the visa for extra days just in case.[/QUOTE]I and West World club and other disco clubs with freebies, pros and semi pros, Thursday to Saturday.
Strip clubs it doesn't matter. You can touch the girls.
If you stay in a hotel In Belarus, then there is no need to register your stay with the Police.
The Hotel does this for you.
Nightlife:
As I experienced from almost 2 weeks in Belarus is that Monday is crap, like mostly mongers and a few girls dancing that are probably on the paycheck of the club. The other days were actually good.
Prices in Belarus:
Belarus is not cheap. Most stuff is like +50% to +200% of EU prices for imported stuff like Red Bull. I saw in a supermarket that buying 1 Liter of the cheapest Vodka is cheaper than an ordinary can of Red Bull, which is kinda strange.
Lukashenko’s economic policy is really strange, actually like retarded strange. Why? The Belarus government believes it can stimulate the economy and stimulate growth by having artificially high prices (= high taxes on products). In combination with the low wages I can see some understanding why some girls like to ‘befriend’ with rich old Arab geezers.
JoJo you're right but if you stay in another place like at friends apartment then then you have to registered by yourself at OVIR.
Worldbank you should read thread more carefully.
In Belarus it's simple. Everything imported is very costly, everything domestic is cheap. If you want western standard you have to pay for it.
Pay attention that girls talking negative about the country are usually workers of KDS.
It seems that you Worldbank was mostly going up and down Independence street. Among locals it's known as "sheep sheering lane" since everythnig there is dedicated to take money from (few) foreign visitors.
Night clubs in Minsk during weekends are full of team B from Moscow, trains full of pros from Moscow arrive in Minsk on Friday afternoon. They are lead by mamashkas who made their carreers as p4p in UAE mostly and are fluent in arabic. During weekend lots of girls from Moldova and Ukraine are coming to Minsk for p4p and fill the hotel lobbies. High priced mostly in Crown Plaza, lower priced in Europa and Viktoria hotels. The easy way to recognize those "imports" are their speaking since local have different accents. One time I asked such girl in Crown Plaza "are you from Minsk". She said "yes of course". When I asked "in which part of city you live" her answer was "Fili". Well this is not part of Minsk but of Moscow. I asked her to show me her passport and if she has belarus passport I will give her 50 Euro. She didn't get the money since her passport was russian he he.
Anyway if you're in Minsk no need to go to clubs. In nice weather just stroll around the parks and river banks. Plenty of girls are there sitting, talking and mostly drinking. Easy to strike conversation and this girls are more "normal" than club ones. Also ride in the city transport pleanty of chances there also.
Of course this will require solid knowledge of russian language. If you don't have it then hop the clubs but it will cost you.
The best thing is to avoid Minsk and go to provinces instead much more rewarding. But it's not for everybody since not so many people come to Minsk yet alone belarus provinces.
Many times on this thread was repeated that Belarus is hard for mongering. When I make the comparation 6-7 years ago it was much easier. Today it's hard unless you have plenty of money and willing to throw it around on everything.
Speaking about East Europe the hardest destinations for mongering in my opinion are Serbia in first place then Belarus second.
So for you who still think Belarus is hidden gem for mongering better go to Kiev which is much better and rewarding destination. Problems in Belarus is strick regimee which can throw your ass in jail just for wrong word, getting visa, people which are mostly to close and shy.
There's a reason why Belarus thread has 584 posts and Ukraine thread has 13384 posts at the moment I write this.
[QUOTE=Worldbank]Secondly you NEED to have a travel insurance of a Belorussian insurance company, because other insurances aren't legal even though my insurance says it does cover Belarus.[/QUOTE]
For those of you who are presently preparing a trip to Minsk and wonder where in hell you can obtain a travel insurance from a Belarus insurance co before you leave, you don't have to. You can get it at Minsk airport when you get out of the plane, before you go through passport control. There are a couple of booths and it's dirt cheap. I usually stay 3-4 weeks on each visit (for business) and it costs about 10-15 USD each time.
Jim