Batam

Few photos of the girl I took on holiday, just out of college, looking for a job. Many other non-pros of similar quality can be found in Batam if effort is taken.

[QUOTE=Adrenalinrush;1283519]Few photos of the girl I took on holiday, just out of college, looking for a job. Many other non-pros of similar quality can be found in Batam if effort is taken.[/QUOTE]Great photos of beautiful girls. Thanks for sharing. (any naked photos?)

BTW I'm not a great fan of Pattaya or AC either and I generally stray away from places where the P4P trade is in-ya-face. Obviously Batam has it's fine jewels but for an impatient non-Bahasa speaker such as myself I found it a very hard nut to crack compared to other 'non-in-ya-face' places I've been lucky enough to visit all over Asia. I do find the implication that if Batam doesn't rock your world you're obviously some sort of degenerate lowlife who belongs in Pattaya slightly tedious. Anyway, for all you guys who find Batam the bees knees, enjoy!

Excellent post. Many statements are right to the point. I like your approach (and I like even more your photos: you are damn lucky, or good at this. I wish I could meet them :p).

May I ask you (maybe by PM is better?) where do you come from? I understand you are not bule like me.

[QUOTE=Adrenalinrush; 1283515].

If you explore Batam a little more, you will find action for all budgets, it's just that it is not immediately visible. Places like I-hotel bar 1st floor, you can get a stunner for 1. 5 mil, s-hotel or planet, you can get a Chinese import for 2. 5 mil, if you visit the houses (because as they call it) , you can get girls as little as 300k-400k all night delivered to your hotel room. I have visited the famous NoName only twice, both times found girls under 25 willing to come to my hotel for free, didn't fancy them so didn't pursue (I am very particular about quality, prefer no sex than sex with a girl I don't fancy) , however I passed Noname on my last night there (Saturday) and saw few bules pull out some real stunners, will have to check it out next time, as maybe the scene is better on Saturdays (I went on weeknights).

Hotels are fairly cheap (will give detailed reports of hotels later, I've stayed in most hotels in Batam) and the place is in general very safe, no trouble unless you look for some.[/QUOTE]Warning: lady houses are not for the average ISG poster. Rooms are dodgy, girls are very "experienced", so to speak, few are attractive. Any girl in a disco is more attractive than those. For 300k-400k, then I'd prefer to book a low-price lady from massage joints.

If your last night in NoName was Saturday 5 May, one of those bule was me. :D

I met a group of 3 very nice girls. 100% regular and NOT on the P4P scene. Girls who like to go dance sometimes (NoName is expensive for a local. It cannot be afforded often). A very nice night with one of them and a nice Sunday with all (Sunday not in my bed, unfortunately).

Anyone planning to be in Batam this weekend? Considering heading over from Singapore and staying 2 nights at the Novotel.

The same map of Batam kindly already provided by Apeman 28, but in higher resolution. It is a JPG inside the ZIP, because if I post the JPG the ISG software automatically resizes it to 648x648.

Thank you Mr. Ape for sending me the original file. I tried to reduce its size in various ways and this seems to be a good compromise.

Dear all, but especially my friends old regulars (you know who I am talking to) and those how had DIRECT EXPERIENCE,

I may be back to Batam on the last week of July. OMG! I just checked and Ramadan in 2012 is July 21- August 19!

In 2011, there were a lot of posts dealing with "how is Batam on Ramadan"?
Me too I wrote something: "In Ramadan, massage joints will be closed daytime, but will open later (6pm-9pm for example)". But I was in Batam a few days before Ramadan began.
I need a good advice from expert people, not just a generic "don't come during Ramadan, better later". I don't care much about massage joints, but it's good to know they are open, even if at special times.

1) Are massage joints really closed daytime and open later after 6pm?

2) What about NoName? Usual business and crowd I hope?

3) What about discoes? Pacific and Newton? Usual business and crowd I hope?

4) What about eating in Nagoya Hill? Will restaurants be really closed daytime?

5) What about Windsor and Harbour Bay at night? Open and business as usual I hope?

Thank you.

Hi,

I was thinking about a, at least short, trip to Batam for a long time and I follow the discussion here since a year.

Since I have slot next winter I try to plan ahead.

But from what I read it just seems that there are too limited options for a tall white bule that does not speak the local language, e. G.

Girl don't like to go with a caucasian, no way to communicate etc. Etc.

What you think?

Since I was planning a trip from Singapore up north through Malaysia and further to BBK a 2 day trip to Batam would be worth it or should I rather.

Wait until my next trip to go to Indonesia for the first time but for longer?

[QUOTE=Osuul; 1306027]I was thinking about a, at least short, trip to Batam for a long time and I follow the discussion here since a year.
(.....)
Girl don't like to go with a caucasian, no way to communicate etc. Etc.[/QUOTE]
And you claim that you have read the reports in this forum? I am astonished. . :eek:

After you read your 50 pages of reports, you should learn that:
1) Batam is not Bangkok or like one of those popular destinations for hobbyists. Stay away if you are looking for that.
2) Local girls DO LOVE bule, but you need to have lots of respect and "savoir faire".

Read, meditate, and act wisely.

[QUOTE=Adrenalinrush;1283515]the young ones are too shy and most speak no english, they prefer the locals / Singaporeans. I speak passable Bahasa, if you do not speak any Bahasa, then I do agree, Batam is not the place for you, you will do much better in Thailand & Philippines.[/QUOTE]I did RTFF, and I see comments like this that make me think twice.

[QUOTE=Osuul;1306271]I did RTFF, and I see comments like this that make me think twice.[/QUOTE]My opinion is summarized here:

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?964-Batam&p=1283277&viewfull=1#post1283277[/url]

If you read my reports, you'll see how much local girls love bule, but you need some good manners and style.

I would not consider Batam as a "sex tourism" destination.

Read my reports of the last 2 years to know 25% of what I've seen in Batam (on my last visits, I got tired to report my adventures here).

PS: I do not speak any word of Bahasa Indonesia

[QUOTE=Black Page; 1307296]My opinion is summarized here:

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?964-Batam&p=1283277&viewfull=1#post1283277[/url]

If you read my reports, you'll see how much local girls love bule, but you need some good manners and style.

I would not consider Batam as a "sex tourism" destination.

Read my reports of the last 2 years to know 25% of what I've seen in Batam (on my last visits, I got tired to report my adventures here).

PS: I do not speak any word of Bahasa Indonesia[/QUOTE]I read your reports before. Only now with a differnt prespective. Sounds very nice even though you had a few bad ones, as did I in my time in Asia. But thats part of the game.

My next Asia trip will be around 3 weeks. Looks like a have a traget destination for the first week at least.

[QUOTE=Black Page; 1307296]If you read my reports, you'll see how much local girls love bule, but you need some good manners and style.

Read my reports of the last 2 years to know 25% of what I've seen in Batam.

PS: I do not speak any word of Bahasa Indonesia[/QUOTE]This is good to hear. I don't speak Bahasa either, but I definately have good manners and some game. I also have a taste for Indonesian cuisine and girls. For better or worse, all I know about Batam I learned from RTFF. Black Page, your trip reports have influenced my travel plans greatly.

I think I am going like Batam. And Jakarta as well. For a guy like me, who has travelled to LOS more than 25 times over the last two decades and who loves Thai girls, going to the PI for the first time in 2011 was a discovery of a new fantastic parallel universe populated with adorable Filipinas and great beaches to explore and enjoy. I think Indonesia will likewise be another treasure trove of sensual, attractive babes to meet and have fun with. I have had carnal knowledge with only 5 Indonesian girls up to now, but everyone of them has been very attractive and great in bed. The Indo girls I know were different than Thai girls and Filipinas. They were very voluptuous, full lipped, curvy and great lovers. Viva la difference!

To summarize the knowledge base I am taking to Batam in Sept: the three main venues of action are:

1. The clubs like the No Name disco at the Harmoni, Newton and the Pacific Disco. I have heard nothing but raves about these places and the throngs of good looking women that go there to have a good time. I can't wait to try my hunting skills there. My Achilles heel is that I do not speak a work of Indo.

2. The massage joints like Indah 2 where you can take a girl out early in the afternoon for LT (24 hours). I heard this was a pretty good option and some attractive girls are available. I definitely want to check out this option. I hope these joints have pretty girls.

3. The bars of Kampung Bule around the Hotel Harmoni. I have read mixed reports on these places - some very good, some not so good. The knock is the girls are a little too much business oriented and prices are high, but the girls speak English so that is a plus. I will have to check them out too.

[QUOTE=Osuul;1307430]My next Asia trip will be around 3 weeks. Looks like a have a traget destination for the first week at least.[/QUOTE]You will be in Batam before me. Let us know how you liked it. Good hunting.

NB

Hi all!

I'm a European fair-skinned guy in his mid-twenties currently staying in Singapore and keen on FINALLY travelling to the neighbouring countries and spending some unforgettable days with gorgeous asian girls.

Yesterday, I read dozens of pages and comments on BATAM! I'm really totally enthusiastic about this place and I have to admit that I envy the guys who are sharing their great impressions and field reports here in this forum. I really have to go there and try it out!

My original plan was to stay in Batam Thursday-Sunday, book a nice hotel near the center such as Formosa and then cruise all around the massage salons and clubs to find a proper girl for me. To be honest I have fairly high expectations, but I'm also willing to spend around 600-800k for a night with an asian beauty. I have no knowledge of the native language, but I'm sure that I will manage somehow.

The BIGGEST PROBLEM which I've just come across is that Indonesians are muslims and therefore celebrate Ramadan. Here, I NEED YOUR HELP / ADVICE:

Will all the places like Berry Indah, Indah 2, Gold Bird's, Massage 82. Be shut down during the following month?

What is the situation like in Batam? How about the shopping malls, restaurants etc?

Most importantly, how about the girls? Are they going back home to their families?

Does it MAKE SENSE to go to BATAM this / next week?

Would you advice me to try another place like Jakarta or is it everywhere the same during Ramadan?

I'm actually very frustrated and a little desperate, too. Where shall I go? Which place would you recommend to me?

My budget is like 400 SINGdollars for 3-4 days.

Thanks for your answers in advance!

[QUOTE=FreeLancester; 1307599]Hi all!

I'm a European fair-skinned guy in his mid-twenties currently staying in Singapore and keen on FINALLY travelling to the neighbouring countries and spending some unforgettable days with gorgeous asian girls.

Yesterday, I read dozens of pages and comments on BATAM! I'm really totally enthusiastic about this place and I have to admit that I envy the guys who are sharing their great impressions and field reports here in this forum. I really have to go there and try it out!

Will all the places like Berry Indah, Indah 2, Gold Bird's, Massage 82. Be shut down during the following month?

What is the situation like in Batam? How about the shopping malls, restaurants etc?

Most importantly, how about the girls? Are they going back home to their families?

Does it MAKE SENSE to go to BATAM this / next week?

Would you advice me to try another place like Jakarta or is it everywhere the same during Ramadan?

I'm actually very frustrated and a little desperate, too. Where shall I go? Which place would you recommend to me?

My budget is like 400 SINGdollars for 3-4 days.

Thanks for your answers in advance![/QUOTE]To freelancester.

I think you are better off going to Jarkata mongering in Batam is very limited and quality of the girl are average, girl in Singapore and Jarkata are much better looking but more expensive, I think you can get by 100 USD a day in Jarkata and batam very easy but not in Singapore, during Ramadan you have more option in Jarkata I been to Batam only once think it is overrated.

Fast Eddie 48

[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo; 1307435]This is good to hear. I don't speak Bahasa either, but I definately have good manners and some game. I also have a taste for Indonesian cuisine and girls. For better or worse, all I know about Batam I learned from RTFF. Black Page, your trip reports have influenced my travel plans greatly.

I think I am going like Batam. And Jakarta as well. For a guy like me, who has travelled to LOS more than 25 times over the last two decades and who loves Thai girls, going to the PI for the first time in 2011 was a discovery of a new fantastic parallel universe populated with adorable Filipinas and great beaches to explore and enjoy. I think Indonesia will likewise be another treasure trove of sensual, attractive babes to meet and have fun with. I have had carnal knowledge with only 5 Indonesian girls up to now, but everyone of them has been very attractive and great in bed. The Indo girls I know were different than Thai girls and Filipinas. They were very voluptuous, full lipped, curvy and great lovers. Viva la difference!

To summarize the knowledge base I am taking to Batam in Sept: the three main venues of action are:

1. The clubs like the No Name disco at the Harmoni, Newton and the Pacific Disco. I have heard nothing but raves about these places and the throngs of good looking women that go there to have a good time. I can't wait to try my hunting skills there. My Achilles heel is that I do not speak a work of Indo.

2. The massage joints like Indah 2 where you can take a girl out early in the afternoon for LT (24 hours). I heard this was a pretty good option and some attractive girls are available. I definitely want to check out this option. I hope these joints have pretty girls.

3. The bars of Kampung Bule around the Hotel Harmoni. I have read mixed reports on these places. Some very good, some not so good. The knock is the girls are a little too much business oriented and prices are high, but the girls speak English so that is a plus. I will have to check them out too.

You will be in Batam before me. Let us know how you liked it. Good hunting.

NB[/QUOTE]It will be 3 weeks long but unfortunately in 6 Month since I just came back from a China + Macao Trip 2 weeks ago. (My bank account is still suffering)