Moscow

Stravinsky,

Thanks for the helpfull info. We paid 100Rub for the lap dance in many clubs(At XXX girls dance at the stage than stop bys at each table and ask 100Rub for 1 song long lap dance). Is that still the standart price? (do not mean private room)

Do you remember how much is the cover and is it possible to hang out both full nudity and topless sections of Berloga?

[url]http://www.berloga.ru/on-line_strip-tease[/url]

Doc the mentor,

I have problems on connecting exile@'s page. Is new Shandra at the previous location? (it was a great orgy house)

[QUOTE=Big Bro AJ]Stravinsky,

Thanks for the helpfull info. We paid 100Rub for the lap dance in many clubs(At XXX girls dance at the stage than stop bys at each table and ask 100Rub for 1 song long lap dance). Is that still the standart price? (do not mean private room)

Do you remember how much is the cover and is it possible to hang out both full nudity and topless sections of Berloga?

[url]http://www.berloga.ru/on-line_strip-tease[/url]

Doc the mentor,

I have problems on connecting exile@'s page. Is new Shandra at the previous location? (it was a great orgy house)[/QUOTE]

It moved... again. I can't seem to find the address, the Exile article doesn't mention it either. Lousy journalism... nothing new for the Exile... :)

Here's the article:

"The eXile hasn't reviewed a strip club in over a year, not since Hannah Katz drunkenly stumbled into Grezy in April 2006. We haven't been allowed back since. For this review, we didn't get brutally wasted and blow all our cash on lap dances and the extras that come with being locked up in a dark room with a naked pole dancer. It's not that we didn't want to, but with Adam Levine and Maria Sharapova's law teams at our throats, we need to watch every kopek. So we decided to get serious. We wanted to find out if there's anything to this rumor that sex is being sold in area Moscow clubs. We owe it to our readers to the get the facts and stay sober enough to report them.

To find out, the eXile went deep undercover. We assembled an investigative team of three people - two male editors and one female eXile intern - and headed to the dark underground den known as SHANDRA CLUB & RESTAURANT. Shandra's been around in different incarnations for about half a decade, and it just reappeared on a small street behind the Lukoil building.

We went on a Friday, a little after midnight. The club was packed with between 25 to 50 strippers of every ethnicity imaginable: Russians, Asians, Africans, even one that looked a little Mexican. Most were well-built and fit. Even our intern was impressed.

We sat down in the restaurant section, which has a clear view of the club's main pole room, and ordered a few drinks. There weren't many customers, but this didn't stop the girls from working the poles like the whole world was watching. Despite the strip-bar techno and Sting remixes, Shandra had a nice cozy vibe to it. We would've stayed all night if The eXile's expenses would have allowed it. Things being what they are, we left after 30 minutes.

As for our investigation, we didn't notice any suspicious activity as we surveyed the scene. Near the bar, a couple of Russian goons talked to a handful of strippers. Based on their body language, they were clearly engaged in a conversation about something important, most likely politics. The girls were so interested in what the men had to say that they occasionally leaned in close and stroked their arms. For their part, the dudes were so smitten they bought the girls drinks. No foul play there. Then, all of a sudden, the whole group left and moved to another part of the club and disappeared behind an unmarked door. We never saw them again. There must have been a back entrance that we didn't notice. They probably went to the movies.

Shandra's second room is small and intimate. It has a circular couch facing another pole. Here we found a girl helping an older, Western-looking man retrieve his cell phone, which had fallen to the floor and was stuck under the couch. The man seemed pleased with her help and offered her a hefty tip, which she accepted only after a long and thoughtful hesitation. After all, she had her reputation to think about.

Everything was on the up and up - or so it seemed. Looking at the menu, it occurred to us: What if the menu items were actually coded sex offerings? The names of some of the dishes seemed to confirm our suspicions. A "Sex on the Beach" sushi roll didn't sound like it was served with tuna. Our gut told us it was more like a plateful of warm, moist snapper. The more we read the menu, the more we were convinced.

We ordered a random sample of suspect items, but our guts were wrong. We were served with nothing more and nothing less than a whole lot of tasty food. The Sex on the Beach roll (400r) was made with unagi and wasn't bad by Moscow standards. The Sake Maki roll (180r) also cleared the bar. The grilled Sea Bass (900r) was served on a bed of fresh stir-fried vegetables and was steamy and tasty. The pesto taglioni with mushroom sauce (570r) really hit the spot after all of our grueling investigative work. The prawns in the Caesar Salad (480r) were fresh and properly grilled. And to top it off, the meal came with steaming fresh pita bread.

We were stuffed and ready to leave when a girl suddenly approached one of our undercover agents. This is it, we thought, she's going to proposition him. But boy, were we wrong. After getting to know each other on the couch, the two lovebirds headed to the intimate pole-dancing room. The stripper spoke perfect English and turned out to be sweet, intelligent and unlike any other stripper our agent has ever met. Turns out she wasn't stripping for the money; she was simply passing her free time doing something she loved - pole dancing! To top it all off, she even knew and loved The eXile. Imagine that! Our agent even got her digits, which he promises not to use until he confirms nothing untoward goes on at Shandra after 1 a.m."

[QUOTE=Coupe66]Doctor Skank, thanks a million for your feedback !! On having checked the websites Intimcity.ru and Rusdosug.ru in detail, I am surprised by how few ladies provide hotel service, maybe only 1/4. Is this what you guys also experience ? Also, not too many offering BBBJ, is this the norm ? Would you say these are the best websites, or are there other really good ones I am missing ? What about Putanas.nu, that doesn't look bad either.

About hiring an interpreter to help me make dates / get about Moscow to meet the ladies, I put a post on a local Moscow website (craiglist.org) and have had a few replies from girls offering to help. Strangely all from mypoppet.ru dating service, even though I never posted there. But some think I want to date them, not really the purpose of my posting on the website !! Anyone know other good sites like craiglist I could advertise for this on ?

I also contacted Raul from dreammoscownights, thinking about using his services. He told me though that Riussian ladies are very unreliable (is this true ?) and that many photos on these websites are fake. From what has been posted elsewhere on this site I think the amount of fake photos on these particular sites is low, correct ?

Another thing, does the ladies price per hour generally include most of the services mentioned, or do they charge much for extras, ie BBBJ, or try to hike up the price for foreigners etc ? Thanks again for your advice you lucky Moscow mongers ![/QUOTE]

I can't guarantee that all the pictures on the mentioned sites are real, but any of them are. As for girls doing hotel service or outcall (выезд), it's true that many don't. I am not sure if this is a product of laziness or fear. In any case, it's easier for them to operate from home or an apartment set up for the work.

BBBJ is girls choice, some do, some don't. I've found that most don't agree to it ahead of time, but after checking out your dick and if it looks OK, many do go ahead and do it. I can usually convince them too... :)

As for being unreliable, there is an element of truth to this for sure, but it shouldn't be exaggerated. I find them pretty reliable and honest actually.

BBAJ,

[b]Byelie Medvyed[/b]

If you get there before 22:00, entry is free; after that it's 1,000r.
This gives you access to the entire complex; upstairs and down. It’s a big place.
I don’t recall a lot of the quickie 100r lap dances there, which is not to say it’s not possible, I imagine the girls are pushing for the privat tanyets.

[b]Shandra[/b]

New address is Prosvirin pereulok 7
[url]http://maps.yandex.ru/moscow?upoint=0f96082737cb[/url]

Even the local guys are having a hard time finding it.

[b]Bordo[/b]

Pevchesky pereulok 4

This is a relatively new club. I haven’t been there myself, but the local guys have good things to say about it. You might want to give it a try... you’re there for 2 weeks.

I have been in Moscow in last 6 days.

Hang around the clubs and meet with escorts and regular Moscow girls.

I will post a detailed report later on.

As far as I say, the traffic is terrible, the best way to travel around the city is again the Metro.

Unfortunaly, Helen dont do incall.
Most of the girls from rusdosug.ru that claimed to speak English, actually dont and I surprisingly find a reliable source for mature lovers (for MILF hunters)

White Bear was a total disappointment. They have only one stage and ask 1000Rb for 3 min private lap dance. (its a joke) BUT I didnt regret to go there cause I met and date with Olga ([url]http://www.berloga.ru/girls/nov2005/1/01.jpg[/url] the pic is taken from the web page and I dont have liberty to write her real name)

XXX is still a good place to hang around, and the casinos at Novy Arbat are not that bad. BUT I dont like Metelitsa, its a combionation of casino and sports bar and you pay what you drink.


I have serious difficulties to find words to explain the services at Rasputin [url]http://www.rasputinclub.ru/eng/[/url] You can easly spend thousands of $s in 5 hours. That what we did.

Oh by the way, I recommend saunas of Rasputin. We had indian aroma bath and the well of dragon. WOW...

I still cant find Shandra.

CF sucks, mostly construction workers hang around.

NF looks like old days but we get bored to see the old faces again. They started with ridiculous prices.

I will post all the details soon. I will be in town till wednesday. Still enjoying the beuaties of the city.

I recently had the chance to visit Moscow on business - which meant, that my free time was very limited. I had browsed through the Internet to find some useful information, thought about hiring Raul (mentioned severel times here in the forum) but eventually settled for a visit to Night Flight.

To keep my story short: I visited on a Tuesday night, not too many customers, but plenty of girls. I took my time, had a chat with few of them and eventually decided to spend €400.

As far as I could tell there were two kinds of girls, "average" and very few "high class". The average chicks asked for € 300,-- and I did not consider any of them. The few high class girls asked for € 500 ! We settled for €400,--, I guess because the business was going slow and after 1:30 chances for her to find a client would certainly not improve.

The girl called herself KIM, she was Russian but of Korean Origin - if you see her in the NF you will know her. She was dressed perfect: Nice dress with beautiful cleavage, wonderful high heels and nylons and a lovely smile. She turned out to be 32, I would have taken her for 26 without doubts. She is small (about 1,60, Breast A, of course (long) black hair.) Her body is "well maintained" hand and feet in nice shape, pussy and ass not only shaved but treated with laser depilation - absolutely clean. She doesn't like anal though - but I did not consider it anyhow.

We took her car back to my hotel and spend 2,5 wonderful hours. We kissed a lot, then I started and shot my cum on her small but nice breast, after some small talk, I licked her pussy, then fucked her in various positions. After another 45 minute break which was filled with a very nice conversation we did a third round until both of us were exhausted -she started the activity with a nice BJ.

For me it was a perfect night with a wonderful woman. Yes € 400 was vey expensive, but I do not regret a single Cent.

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[QUOTE=Hein Bloed]I recently had the chance to visit Moscow on business - which meant, that my free time was very limited. I had browsed through the Internet to find some useful information, thought about hiring Raul (mentioned severel times here in the forum) but eventually settled for a visit to Night Flight.

To keep my story short: I visited on a Tuesday night, not too many customers, but plenty of girls. I took my time, had a chat with few of them and eventually decided to spend €400.

As far as I could tell there were two kinds of girls, "average" and very few "high class". The average chicks asked for € 300,-- and I did not consider any of them. The few high class girls asked for € 500 ! We settled for €400,--, I guess because the business was going slow and after 1:30 chances for her to find a client would certainly not improve.

The girl called herself KIM, she was Russian but of Korean Origin - if you see her in the NF you will know her. She was dressed perfect: Nice dress with beautiful cleavage, wonderful high heels and nylons and a lovely smile. She turned out to be 32, I would have taken her for 26 without doubts. She is small (about 1,60, Breast A, of course (long) black hair.) Her body is "well maintained" hand and feet in nice shape, pussy and ass not only shaved but treated with laser depilation - absolutely clean. She doesn't like anal though - but I did not consider it anyhow.

We took her car back to my hotel and spend 2,5 wonderful hours. We kissed a lot, then I started and shot my cum on her small but nice breast, after some small talk, I licked her pussy, then fucked her in various positions. After another 45 minute break which was filled with a very nice conversation we did a third round until both of us were exhausted -she started the activity with a nice BJ.

For me it was a perfect night with a wonderful woman. Yes € 400 was vey expensive, but I do not regret a single Cent.

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Moin!

I remember Kim... how could I forget. Small body but quite nice tits, was rubbing my cock at the bar and kept telling me how much she liked big dicks and asking me if I was rich... how charming. She went home for $150 about 3 years ago. You paid about $520... so I guess she's figured out the system now. Hope she drove you to your apartment in her Mercedes. :)

She truly is very friendly and sexy... really hot and horny.

Anyway, glad you had fun.

Knowing that girls are asking and getting 400-500 €, I guess there really is no point for me to go there anymore.... if there ever was. I'm waaaaaay too cheap for them.

Can you have sex in the private rooms in Rasputin?
I had a hand jobb once, but no more.
What about you guys?


[QUOTE=Big Bro AJ]I have been in Moscow in last 6 days.

Hang around the clubs and meet with escorts and regular Moscow girls.

I will post a detailed report later on.

As far as I say, the traffic is terrible, the best way to travel around the city is again the Metro.

Unfortunaly, Helen dont do incall.
Most of the girls from rusdosug.ru that claimed to speak English, actually dont and I surprisingly find a reliable source for mature lovers (for MILF hunters)

White Bear was a total disappointment. They have only one stage and ask 1000Rb for 3 min private lap dance. (its a joke) BUT I didnt regret to go there cause I met and date with Olga ([url]http://www.berloga.ru/girls/nov2005/1/01.jpg[/url] the pic is taken from the web page and I dont have liberty to write her real name)

XXX is still a good place to hang around, and the casinos at Novy Arbat are not that bad. BUT I dont like Metelitsa, its a combionation of casino and sports bar and you pay what you drink.


I have serious difficulties to find words to explain the services at Rasputin [url]http://www.rasputinclub.ru/eng/[/url] You can easly spend thousands of $s in 5 hours. That what we did.

Oh by the way, I recommend saunas of Rasputin. We had indian aroma bath and the well of dragon. WOW...

I still cant find Shandra.

CF sucks, mostly construction workers hang around.

NF looks like old days but we get bored to see the old faces again. They started with ridiculous prices.

I will post all the details soon. I will be in town till wednesday. Still enjoying the beuaties of the city.[/QUOTE]

Been in Moscow for just over a month. Following the advice of It Travel, Dr. Skank, etc. , I've been working on freebies using Flirt. Ru as my main point of reference. I've been "seeing" (I. E. , been out on two dinner dates) with an absolutely drop dead gorgeous blonde 23 year old that I met online. She's a stunner, and is playing the "good girl" route with me. I don't have a problem with that, as my expense account picks up meals and I have a feeling it will pay off in the end. Flirt. Ru is a strange place.- you have to spend A LOT of time and energy contacting girls. Plus, the site is in Russian, so you need to know a bit of the language to get by. My advice is to use an online translator, choosing girls that speak both Russian and English. Even the chicks that speak English seem to like it if you speak a bit of Russian, so the translator site can be helpful there.

As for the Moscow scene, I can tell you that I've hooked up twice from NF and have to say that I won't be going back soon. The prices are outrageous. Every girl there will quote you $500 (I think they have some sort of union agreement on price quotations). Both times, I talked them down to $300 to come back to my apartment, but the service wasn't that great. The girls were hot, but very mechanical. For the price, I wouldn't use NF, especially if you are going to throw around $500. I read that someone paid 500 euro at NF recently. That's f-ing crazy. By the way, the food at NF is excellent. Try the NF Special, a grilled beef tenderloin served on oak with whipped potato.- good shit.

The strip club scene is hit or miss. Dolls, on Krasnoprenskaya is a complete rip off. The girls quote $100 for a private dance (2 songs). Ridiculous and when I was there the girls weren't that hot. Divas, near Pushkin Square, is much better. I've been there twice and the quality of the dancers is amazing. My first visit, I stayed a couple hours and just got a few private dances in in the private VIP room (1000 rubles for 15 minutes). Not bad. I was there on a Sunday night and the place was VERY slow. I think that is why the dances were relatively cheap by Moscow standards. The dances were completely full contact. I was sucking tits, fingering, etc, and the girls were all over me. Didn't ask about sex on my first night there, but came back a couple weeks later looking for it. I love to have sex in strip clubs. On my second night at Divas, 10 minutes in the private VIP room was priced at 1600 rubles. The price had increased, but the club was hopping (mid-week) and supply/demand won out (you have to love rogue Russian capitalism). For 3500 rubles, you can rent the private VIP room for 45 minutes and then negotiate with the girl for blow job, sex, etdc. I picked a stunner named Meela (21, blonde, ass to die for, smaller tits, model face and body) and we headed to the private room. We negotiated a fee of $250 and went to town. This girl was really into it. She almost forced me to DATY and her blowjob (covered.- but I didn't push things) was awesome. She loved it when I used her hair as a handhold and liked it borderline rough. Sex was great.- and the view in doggy was priceless. Had a great time, for much less money than at NF with WAY better service.

Also, I can vouch for Raoul at [url]www.dreammoscownights.com[/url]. This guy is the man to see on a short trip to Moscow. I've used him three times and the quality and service of the girls is excellent. He also knows the salon scene, which is a great value for the service. I find the girls in the salon scene to be 6-8 range, while the dancers at Diva's all were in the 8-9 range. It's just my prefererance, but I'll pay more for a model type face and body. Anyway, at roughly $100 a night, Raoul will treat you well and you will leave Moscow satisfied. He has a sister duo that is not to be missed, as referenced in other reports.

All for know.- I'll post more once I nail the model-freebie I'm working on.

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Why would anyone want to pay for sex in Moscow when 400-500e gets you a better girl in a better city. I guess if you are stuck there on business and are completely desperate. Personally I'd rather save my money for the hot Russian girls in NYC and Miami. :)

[QUOTE=Doctor_Skank]
Knowing that girls are asking and getting 400-500 €, I guess there really is no point for me to go there anymore.... if there ever was. I'm waaaaaay too cheap for them.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Cruiser D]Why would anyone want to pay for sex in Moscow when 400-500e gets you a better girl in a better city. I guess if you are stuck there on business and are completely desperate. Personally I'd rather save my money for the hot Russian girls in NYC and Miami. :)[/QUOTE]
I'd rather take a flight to Buenos Aires where prices for two hours sessions are 140/200 pesos (30/50 €), or to Sao Paulo where P4P is more expensive (+/- 80 €) due to the bad exchange rate but pros definitely the hottest on planet earth and true freaks in bed.

[url]http://www.platynum.com.ar/Entretenimiento/EntretenimientoSpanish.htm[/url] (Buenos Aires)
[url]http://www.mclass.com.br/scripts/mclass.dll/main[/url] (Sao Paulo)
[url]http://sexdreams.com.br/acompanhantes.php[/url] (Sao Paulo)

I personally REALLY can't see what those argentinas and brasileiras haven't compared to Helena or any of her Moscow's colleagues.

:)

[QUOTE=Prosal]Seconded.

I'd even rather take a flight to Buenos Aires where prices are 150/200 pesos (35/50 €), or to Sao Paulo where P4P is more expensive (+/- 80 €) due to the bad exchange rate but pros definitely the hottest on planet earth.

[url]http://www.platynum.com.ar/Entretenimiento/EntretenimientoSpanish.htm[/url] (Buenos Aires)
[url]http://www.mclass.com.br/scripts/mclass.dll/main[/url] (Sao Paulo)
[url]http://sexdreams.com.br/acompanhantes.php[/url] (Sao Paulo)

I really can't see what those girls haven't compared to Helena or any of her Moscow's colleagues.

:)[/QUOTE]
What they haven't is hyper horny bizness guys with cash falling out of their pockets willing to pay any price for that "oh so precious" Russian pussy. The same quality of Russian girl (often even better) can be had in German FKKs for 50 €/30 minutes BTW... and that includes DFK and BBBJ.... just to keep things in perspective.

Maybe after screwing several dozen Russian women the big spenders will change their perspective and realize the folly of their ways. Then again, maybe not. In any case, it's too late for NF.

I personally don't care, NF is pretty much off limits for me anyway and there is no point worrying about it.

I've often wondered at what point does the high-priced ho think:

* "oooh, he's super cool he has so much money!"
-or-
* "what a fucking idiot."

[QUOTE=Doctor_Skank]
I've often wondered at what point does the high-priced ho think:

* "oooh, he's super cool he has so much money!"
-or-
* "what a fucking idiot."[/QUOTE]

One of the points for Natasha is when the "super cool" guy at the bar not only overpays her wildest wish for compensation but does it before the session starts. Then the lovely Natasha knows that she has a "fucking idiot" on her hands and proceeds to milk him accordingly. Fairs fair and more power to her when she lands one.

[QUOTE=Excess]One of the points for Natasha is when the "super cool" guy at the bar not only overpays her wildest wish for compensation but does it before the session starts. Then the lovely Natasha knows that she has a "fucking idiot" on her hands and proceeds to milk him accordingly. Fairs fair and more power to her when she lands one.[/QUOTE]

Right you are...as I said in the case of Kim, I guess she's figured out the system. From $150/all night to $520/2,5 hours... she's moving up in the world!

[QUOTE=Cruiser D]Why would anyone want to pay for sex in Moscow when 400-500e gets you a better girl in a better city. I guess if you are stuck there on business and are completely desperate. Personally I'd rather save my money for the hot Russian girls in NYC and Miami. :)[/QUOTE]Yes I was on business and I was lets say HORNY :-)

I would argue that you may find a better girl elsewhere - both girls I screwed in Russia where FIRST class, I could not have been more satisfied. Sure a lot of money down the drain, but I do not regret it for one second. Certainly not something I will repeat anytime soon, but great FUN.