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i'm not sure i have any idea about what the man is asking for...:) if he means spanking a girl's behind, i can assure you i do that all the time with her in the doggie position, walls up or not. if he means anal sex, i'm not into getting my dipper into that realm so have no idea whatsoever what to recommend...but i'm sure it's a common request in the mps or in el centro.
then again, i have a feeling when i am missing the point altogether, as i believe i am here.
just got back from los moches on the great train ride through the copper canyons. this adventure is one i can recommend to anyone. it will take a month to process all of the photos and information i accumulated about the trip, but you will be able to read about it soon on the juarez tour guide web site.
i did the trip in the cheap, hoping to pull it all off for $300. it cost more like $400, which is still pretty inexpensive for that kind of adventure. i took the second class train on the way to los mochis and the first class train back to chihuahua. both have pluses and minuses.
i stayed in hotels which have rooms for $10 but no hot water or heaters. fortunately, they all had thick warm blankets, even if i did have to sleep in my clothes to be warm. in los moches, a young girl knocked on my door about ten minutes after i got there, offering me sex for $10.
she was slender and plenty cute, but she was just a child (imagine jr. high school, 8th grade cute).
"mija, cuantos años tienes?" i asked her. (how old are you?)
she said she was 14.
i just laughed.
"momentito," i said said, shutting the door in her face.
i came back with 20 pesos.
"take this for food, but don't bother me for sex, ok?"
"why not, no one cares?" she said, trying to step into the room.
i restrained her by the shoulder.
"no, a la verga!" i told her. (enough!)
she then smiled.
"thanks!" she said, pocketing the 20 peso note. she kissed her fingertips, then placed them on my cheek.
sheesh, i love young girls, but not children. you would have had to be a straight version of michael jackson to screw that kid.
besides, although i doubt it very, very much, it could have all been a set-up of some kind. no way i am going to get caught with my pants down with an ****d girl in mexico.
i even went down to the desk and told the night clerk not to let anyone else bother me. "i like the girls, but not children," i told him. besides, i didn't want a woman; i wanted to sleep. he shook his head up and down in understanding, and i was not bothered any more that night.
back in ciudad juarez new years eve (today) i wasted no time in seeing a favorita at el entanto and told her the story. she just shook her head and told me in other parts of mexico the girls were so poor they will sell themselves even younger. "she is probably a drug user," she told me. "you did the right thing."
"of course!" i replied.
you have no idea how good she felt (in her old age of 25) under me, crying "fuck me" in english (something i taught her to say, by the way) after all those cold days and nights on the train and in those cheap hotels.
still, when you see the pictures you are going to understand why this trip was a great vacation. the train goes through some of the most fantastic scenery i have every seen. i spent ten hours on the ride to los mochis and ten hours on the ride from los mochis back to chihuahua, standing between the passenger cars, taking photos through an open window, fighting the cold winds of the sierra madres. the swaying of the rail cars, the groaning of the train, the rhythm of the wheels on the track, the sound of train whistle, and the steady hum of the locomotive pulling us up into the mountains get into you and make you feel you are living out some boyhood fantasy.
now i have the weekend to look forward to---the feel of another favorita's firm young breasts against me as i enjoy her kisses of wine, the mad sensations of seeing her impale herself upon the stiff manhood which can find no lovely companion here in the united states. all the while her boss, my friend, is translating my web site into a beautiful read in spanish, which will double my readership once again.
god bless mexico, surely destiny's gift to us.
When my friend heard I would be in Ciudad Juarez for Christmas there was no arguing with him. "If you are here, you are at my house the night before Christmas!" he said.
"No, there is no maybe," he replied when I hemmed and hawed. "It's done!" he added with an air of total finality.
Of course, I was there.
His two kids are just precious, a little girl about 11 and a little boy about 9 or 10. They called me "Mister Ron". His wife, Rosie, is also a jewel. They live in a little house not far from my apartment. I took a taxi over so not to worry about drinking and driving.
My friend cooked a huge pork roast in the oven. The hunk of pork they put on my plate took up half of the plate, and that's no exageration. We drank wine, brandy, and beer all night. My friend sang along with the music. He has an operatic quality voice, perfect pitch, perfect temelo, perfect timing. He used to be a professional singer and sings from his diaphram which is where good singers sing from. One of the other two guests was a 60 year old man who speaks good English and quoted Walt Whitman over dinner. The other guest was a younger guy in his 40's who works for a local radio station. My friend publishes a magazine.
After dinner toasts were in order. My friend toasted to the Juarez Tour Guide and the fact it was telling the truth about Ciudad Juarez, that it was about time. My toast was that since I could not be with my own family that night it was nice to see I had found a new family here in Mexico. His wife's toast was that she believed we had all found a fellowship with each other, one she believed would be with us all of our lives. The poet's toast was to me, that I was now part of them, that people from everywhere on the planet see the same sun and moon rise above them, that our presence together than night was proof of this fact. The little boy had been given a couple of glasses of wine and simply sat there watching this all unfold with a shit-eating grin on his face. The man who worked for the radio station toasted to life, and enjoying every day of it.
Then we went into the living room and presents were exchanged. The little boy got things like those robot toys that turn into different things when you twist them around and a battery powered race car. The little girl got some knick-knacks and an electronic keyboard, which thrilled her to no end. With the unwrapping of each gift, the guests, including me, all applauded like it was the king's jewels being unwrapped. They gave me a pair of gloves. I had given them an Eagle's CD. Hugs were exchanged all around, the children, everyone. Then my friend cranked the music, and we all danced, the children, everyone. Spirits were high, and it seemed God truly was in his heaven that night.
We then went back to the big kitchen table and had a little debate about whether I would take a taxi or be driven home that night. I insisted on calling a taxi and asked them to respect the intelligent decision I was making. Paco (the poet) finally admitted he was more than a little drunk, and I pointed my finger at him and told him that was exactly why he was not driving me home! The discussion went back and forth in a good spirited way until I finally relented and agreed to let my friend and his wife drive me home. They were not drunk. They had been playing host all night and had let us get drunk instead.
Let off safely at my apartments, I went upstairs and just smiled. The poet was right---the same sun and moon rises and sets above all of us. We can't be afraid to embrace that fact, or each other.
If we do something is seriously sick in our hearts.
DreamingEagle you said, "No, a la verga!" I told her. (Enough!).
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What an inappropriate thing to say to a child. "No, ya basta" would have been the proper thing to say. Either you are just an arrogant gringo or just ignorant in Spanish, which is it? Leave the kids alone.
Mugroso,
Perhaps you should re read DE's posting. He didn't approach the girl, she came to him. And he knows she was a child, and sent her away.
As to the comment about arrogant gringo, or ignorant, take a deep breath, look at yourself, y cerrada su boca.
Rear Window,
Bad move at not taking Marilu to the room. But then again if it was close to closing time, good move. Even the best of lays can get kinda jittery near closing. They want to get in line and cash in those fischa tickets. I will be heading down in a couple of weeks and have another piece of that ass. I haven't had her since my anal adventure with her. I just wish I could cut myself loose of her due the skinny Santa Claus situation. But a piece of tight, eager and pleasing ass is hard to find. I need a real mamona like her.
On another note, I have been doing a tour thing. I have been cataloging tittie bars, *****houses and MPs and snapping photos of each. I even got the places I don't go to. I am not sure how I will dispense this information to the world or how to charge but I have got to profit from my knowledge of Juarez. It will be a great way to supplement my Mexican pussy budget. My goal is minimum expense, maximum profit.
If this venture proves promising I am gonna get me an all nighter with 2 chicas in the Lucerna. Maybe 3, why the fuck not. I always aim high.
Laters
The Filthy One
i said the right thing. she was **** and about to physically push her way into my room uninvited and obviously against my will. it stopped her right in her tracks, and she left on a good note. so you need to take things in context and not be throwing words around like "arrogant gringo" and "ignorant in spanish" when you don't even have any idea who you are talking about and obviously did not even read the entire post with any degree of thoughtfulness. you are certainly not familiar with my posting history, or you would have never suggested such a thing.
sorry to be blunt. but your comment was not correct, and it certainly didn't have a trace of tact.
i've decided perla at el encanto is about one of the sweetest providers in juarez. i showed up there wednesday, and it was only her and lorena in the parlour. i said hello to lorena and selected perla.
when lorena came along i had been selecting her for about two months. one day when she was not there, i got with perla. after she took the money she read me the riot act about her being my "girlfriend" for two years, then suddenly it was "lorena, lorena, lorena", wiggling her first two fingers over her forehead like little devil's horns.
i told her the truth was i liked them both.
"no! her or me!" she said, eyes flashing with anger, looking a lot bigger than her 105 lbs.
she asked me if i knew she still had both of the cards i had given her back when she worked at sirena's.
i told her i was a little surprised, and i was. but then i also thought she must have a drawer full of cards given to her by her other clients. still, i was a little touched (about .4 on a scale of 10), having forgotten about the cards until she mentioned them.
she shrugged, as though that said everything. (what a little actress.)
she left to put on her little massage parlour robe while i took a shower, and i thought, wow, she was indeed a little pissed. but it was mostly an act, and we had a really good time when we got down to business, maybe the best ever.
wednesday was even better, because i think she and lorena have some kind of feud going or something. by picking her right in front of lorena i seemed to have made her day. and a girl has never felt so warm as she did after those cold hotel rooms with no hot water i had stayed in on my train ride to los mochis.
besides, she is good to talk to. the sessions usually go over an hour, mostly because we talk so much while getting dressed. i learned she gets $15 of the $30 the clients pay and usually gets about 3-4 clients a day, which means she makes more in a day than a person with an ordinary job in juarez makes in a week. she's not crazy about being a prostitute, but that's life. told her about the experience with the **** girl on my trip and about how i hate the cops in the city.
left with the same feeling i always have with her. this is a sweet person, and it's nice to have sex with someone you connect with. she's small and cute from head to toe.
she's like one of those girlfriends you may have had whom you enjoyed being with but would never be jealous of. good sex, a few laughs, and bye-bye 'till next time.
lorena will knock your socks off, too.
for those of you who are not familiar with juarez, el encanto is at 2330 hermanos escobar above papagyos's bar and the el herraderro restaurant one block west of calle panama. $30.
I am quite capable of reading. I have looked up old posts so I am at least somewhat familiar. For one. I think your posts are long winded. Much better than a one line post however. You seem to be unable to admit you are wrong. For example auto insurance. You just can't let things drop. You press on.
I stand by my comment. You are wrong regardless of the circumstances. You have a crude mouth and you dishonor the decent folks who have attempted to teach you Spanish by using filthy words you have over heard on children.
Rear Window, mi hermano de leche, I did read the post. It is a shame she had access that far in a hotel to get to de's room. Beggars and street *****s are a nuisance in Mexico and I believe she was that aggressive to get in the room. Still, she is a child, dreaming eagle is an adult, so act like onea and don't be so crude in Mexico, it makes me look bad.
I don't expect anyone to say I am right. I don't want you to recant. I want you to chew on this food for thought.
Now lets get this thread back to mongering and lets save the filthy words for the putas.
Dreaming eagel said, "because I think she and Lorena have some kind of feud going or something. By picking her right in front of Lorena I seemed to have made her day"
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We can cross borders or fly the oceans, no matter where we go we will never escape the petty jealousys of a woman. Even my puta Marilu gets jealous if I talk to another chica, and she is a pro.
I admire you DE, but Mugroso is right the words you used are incorrect. The "V" word is used for sexual relations, but when used in other phrases it is associated with arrogance. We know you meant well just take it as a suggestion the same way you have posted excellent suggestions.
Happy new year!
JD
Mugroso - maybe you need to grow up a little bit.
"I have got to profit from my knowledge of Juarez" - seems a tad selfish to say the least.
I'm sure there are a number of mongers who enjoy pleasuring themselves - but to make it a point to profit yourself will only lead to unfulfilled lust of pleasure, money, power and friends.
Sorry, that's the way I see it with your comments.
EPG
Mugroso,
I AM kicking myself a bit now for not taking Marilu, but it was right up against closing. The worst part is that Suki there is pissed at me for ogling Marilu's fab gams,and the NEXT nite, Lilly got mad at me when one of the waiters told her about my two really competitive lap dances from both Suki and Marilu, in some kinda personal contest, the night before. (She's driving me back to my hotel and the questions start FLYING)
Sheesh, just trying to have a little clean fun.
Peace All.
Rearwindow, would you mind giving a physical description of Suki? There was a girl named Suki that was working at Corpus a few years back, I had her once and then never saw her again. She was about average in height, darker than average skin, ass like a black girl, TIGHT pussy, at least it was then then. Not the prettiest thing in the world but not bad, kind of exotic looking in the face. Sound familiar, because I would like to see her again if it is the same chica.
Dougie,
This is probably not the same girl. Suki at Queens is tinta rubia, and lighter skinned. Probably 5'5", 110, very quiet, but knows a good bit of english. Also has a temper ,as I found out! Although, after thinking about your description, she IS a bit exotic looking. Great ass, smallish breasts, wears thigh high latex boots. The boots alone are worth checking out.
Is there any cheap way (under $20) for a carless truck driver to get from the Horizon City area (I-10 Exit 34) to the downtown border without having to be shuttled by some greaseball pimp?
Currently, I leave the trailer in Horizon city and shuttle down to the lots on Santa Fe Av. Unfortunately due to Texas DUI laws, that means I'm unable to consume any alcohol while in Juarez, plus my bosses can see exactly where the vehicle is.
Thanks in advance.
Rey....park your rig at the other truck stop on I-10 and Airway across the freeway from Sams' club. It's much closer to the Santa Fe bridge if thats where you want to go. Cabs from there to the bridge are $10-15. Another cheaper option is to walk across the freeway to the Sun Metro station near Hooter's which is near Sam's club. Take the express bus (59?) to the downtown plaza ($1) and walk to the bridge from there (10 minute walk). Buses stop running around 9pm or so, so you will have to cab it back to your rig if you stay late.
Rey...Go too a hardware store and get a tin bucket to put over your Qualcomm antenna. And/or, go to the control box usually mounted under the sleeper or in a side box and disconnect the antenna leads. There are two of them. One is Tierra and other is SAT.. You box will still function but will not give out a definitive location. It will show El Paso within a 25 mile range or so!
Good move to stay away from the shuttle services. Services in Juarez cost you a helluva lot more using them.
ie: The $60 Royal treatment at a downtown (GENESIS) massage parlor!
Enjoy amigo!
Rey, there's a fellow who goes by the name of Papa Smurf that specializes in hauling guys just like you over to Juarez so you can impress everyone with your loud mouth and your roll of bills, and your attitude that everyone south of the border are just a bunch of greaseball pimps who exist to serve your pleasure. And you will only have to pay double the price of folks who take the time to learn their way around and actually lower themselves to thinking of and treating the people there as human beings. What a deal!!!
And please do take Borderjumper's advice and tamper with your trucks GPS system, and have a few drinks while you are at it. Don't worry about being caught, what are the odds? And if you are in Juarez and do manage to get a little drunk and separated from your tour group, just flag down one of Juarez's finest local police officers and ask directions. Make sure to flash a few greenbacks, they will be more than happy to help you out.
What's the deal Dougie to justify this kind of attack on a guy wanting a little information?
You and I are on the same page where Smurf and Company are concerned. I don't see why somebody hasn't shut that whole bunch down long before now. Hell, I Know why. They're fronts for the real owners of the shuttles. The bar owners in Juarez.
Give Rey the benefit of the doubt as to his comportment, looks, attitude etc. Reading posts of yours from the past, you've apparently got a real hard on for truck drivers. Granted, the clowns that go over there with the shuttle services are poor representatives of the industry.
I've been in the trucking business myself for almost 30 years, as an owner, a driver and in the management side of it. The ones you don't see over there in Juarez and other border towns are the ones that might change your image and attitude about the industry. Hell, some of us even have college degrees and the majority shower at least once a day. There are retired doctors out here. A lawyer or two that I personally know. A broad cross section of American society but as in anything, the worst make the biggest impact.
Lighten up and give these guys the benefit of the doubt. Guys such as Reyes. And as for tampering with his GPS? It gives him an an option to keep him away from the shuttle services.
I hope someday to live long enough to see all of those ass clowns put out of business. I can remember Juarez as it was back in the 70's when Clubs like Virginia's that catered to truckers, had a clean, well behaved clientele. How things change!
1. Borderjumper: Thanks for the idea about covering the qualcomm antenna with an object. The unfortunate problem with that is that as soon as the obstruction is removed for directions, or for a assignment, then all the non-sent info(where I was for the last four hours.) is automatically sent.
2. Dougie: It's people like you that make me not want to be associated with my profession. I had a regular trade(draftsman) before becoming a truck driver, but I love the freedom of this job a lot more than being cooped up in an office. Unfortunately, the thing I always hear that I can't stand is..."I never would have known that you were a truck driver". I clean up before I go to Juarez, I negotiate and keep rates down, I know my place, I speak enough spanish to negotiate and I don't act like a fool just because my driver's licence is from Alabama.
3. Everyone else, thanks for the info, especially Border Rat's on the #59 to Downtown. Not the most useful, since I normally get my monger on late, after the buses end. Oh well. If anyone pulls into the Santa Fe lots and sees a white bobtail with red/blue stripes, y'all will know I'm somewhere in El Centro. I'll be the guy outside Panama, converting other truckers to the proper ways of Juarez.
4. Just a final question. Why would anyone mess with Smurf of Cadillac man after seeing what they bring back to El Paso with them. Mainly a sad lot of dissatisfied, rushed, overpaying truckers. Along with the local lot lizards that work Horizon City, the workers from the worst strip club in the world, and of course, so much cocaine that they could ski on it.
Rey?
What is your "place" amigo? (#2) When you're out trashing around the zona social status is out the window. We're all just a buncha guys out chasing pussy!
You made a damn good point on Smurf and Cadillac MAn Rey. Between the two, Papa Smurf though is the lesser of two evils I believe. I've known the man for about 8 years and on a personal level, he's alright. But he's just an ass clown for Ricardo Moro at Casa Colorado who actually owns that particular shuttle service.
You'd think the guys wise up to the scam and make their way to Juarez as you do. Perhaps then, prices would level off for everybody.
By "knowing my place", I just meant that I try not to do stupid things to arouse the attention of the locals. This is their country not mine. I wouldn't want some drunken mexican wandering around downtown El Paso, screaming obscenities, and throwing bottles at cars. So why would I act that way in Juarez? Besides that takes away valuable scoring time.
Anyways, any messages sent between now and late February (Mardi Gras time) will most likely be ignored as I'm going to hit the road as soon as my batteries recharge. Damn 15-degree Alabama winter. If I get to west Texas I'll be sure to bang out a report.
>What's the deal Dougie to justify this kind of attack on a guy wanting a little information?
Perhaps I was somewhat "short" with Rey, but his message with the reference to a "greaseball pimp" struck me as being a bit racist. Am I oversensitive??
And yes, maybe my opinion of those in the trucking profession is colored by the behavior of the obnoxious, loudmouthed assholes Papa Smurf, et al are so good about dragging across the border to the bars in El Centro. I have seen more than my share of them and they are one of the primary reasons I avoid El Centro in general and especially at night and on weekends. They do indeed make very poor ambassadors of their country and their profession.
If I mistook Rey's reference to greaseballs and overreacted then I apologize, and kudos to him for learning the language and behaving himself. Stereotypes can cut both ways, can't they? But you must admit the use of such a loaded term when used to describe Mexicans or even in a conversation about Mexico can be easily taken as racist.
Hey Dougie..
I just re read Rey's post in question and I believe he is referring to the shuttle ervices who no doubt have a Mexican working for them. I know Papa Smurf and Ricardo have Alberto running for them to make damn sure Ricardo gets his cut from ever dollar spent down there.
Like I said, don't let those assholes in the Zona color your opinion of the entire industry. When I went down there, I made sure to distance myself from the bunch. Not my type of people!
Not everyone has misgivings regarding truck drivers going into Juarez. The providers sure like the fact that they have a stream of customers visiting them on a nightly basis.
Like it or not, they view this as a business and whether their clients are doctors, lawyers or Indian chiefs, they could care less as long as they get money that truck drivers provide, along with other types of clients, to pay the rent, food and medical bills for themselves and their kids. Without clients, providers do not get paid, so they pretty much do not care as to what social fabric of American life their clients belong to.
In addition, they see themselves as providing needed service that truckers especially need. They know that these are men who have limited access to wives and girlfriends because they are constantly on the road and have little time to partake in any semblance of domestic life.
In addition, providers see these truckers as loyal customers since these are the guys who tend to visit them on a customary basis because El Paso/Juarez is on the I-10 corridor.
The forum is getting a little on the nasty side again. Remember we are all in this together! Thus we should be encouraging posts rather than jumping down each other's backs.
To keep this particular post imformative, I did get my money's worth last time I visted Sirena's (thanks in part to DE's coupon). I forget her name, but she had a cute set of dread locks. This was a marathon session that you'll never get in a ***** bar, so the MP's in my mind give you the best bang for your buck!
Naw, it's not getting nasty again Crespo. Dougie made a point, I countered and Dougie responded in a civilized, gentlemanly non confrontational manner as is expected amongst civilized people.
Well done Doug!
Doug brings up valid points and even though I've been in the business for damn near thrity years, I'm disgusted with the trash that has come along in the past 10 years or so.
Well, long time listener, first time caller. Thanks to all for making my first trip to Juarez so good. There isn't much I can add, but maybe a few pointers for the other newbies.
When you get to El Paso, as you've read by now, there are 3 bridges into Juarez. I'm going to talk about going in by foot. You want to use the bridge that the last bridge going west. Parking was alot better than reported, with ample parking for free if you want to walk an extra block or two. The entrance to the bridge was off sixth, I parked one block over and down on eigth.
25 cents to cross over. I followed the great directions of going straight about 4 or 5 blocks to Martinez, turn right and go down about 2 or 3 blocks and make a left on Delgado (this is not the actual name, but close enough).
After going down to TJ and/or NL about 3 or 4 times a year, some observations. First, I love that you can get to the fun by walking. Some walk to the Zona Roja in TJ, but I still don't like it. And of course $10 to n from Boys town is the only way to go.
It's alot sleazier in Juarez, but if you are comfortable in either of the 2 other places, you'll do fine here. Prices in general are about 15% to 25% cheaper here for almost everything.
A pleaseant surprise was that if you are not a Texas resident, you can carry up to 4 liters of alcohol back with you. The price for Bacardi was $8.50 plus $1.10 tax in the US.
I did the bar scene, not a massage kind of guy. Again, cheaper, but more of a harsh hustle. And everyone seems to have their hand out. All told, drinks, room n lady were about $80 for a decent full night.
Thanks again all!
Thumperr
"To keep this particular post imformative, I did get my money's worth last time I visted Sirena's (thanks in part to DE's coupon). I forget her name, but she had a cute set of dread locks. This was a marathon session that you'll never get in a ***** bar, so the MP's in my mind give you the best bang for your buck!"
I know that girl. She's absolutely an awesome lover...a screamer and dirty talker to boot. Been meaning to get by and see her again. Can't remember her name for sure, but I think it's Denise. Don't know why I don't go to Serina's more often, to tell you the truth. They have without question the nicest rooms, and since I go for $30, why not? Just have other places where I really have gotten to know the girls and find that the most enjoyable times of all.
Hate to bring it up again, but a recent comment about the auto insurance question needs a reply. I won't back off because I've done the research, whereas everyone else has just spoken with their State Farm agent. You need Mexican insurance to be legally covered in Mexico. Sorry, but that's the way it is. Now that Border Jumper is back in the loop, he can tell you the same thing. Once again, I mention it because it's important and can literally ruin your life if you don't heed the facts instead of the many incorrect opinions being expressed here, not because I don't like people questioning my word. I could care less who agrees with me on matters of opinion, but this is not a matter of opinion. Being "covered" and being legally covered are two different matters. Your American adjustor cannot even see your car until it comes back across the border, and how it that going to happen if it has been impounded because you do not have Mexican insurance? If you don't want to listen to me, the Mexican government, the US State Department, and State Farm headquarters itself, then I give up.
To wrap it up, I've decided not to publish the MP guide, so if any of you need directions to any of the 14 I have researched, let me know which one you want and I will post directions and a map.
Here are the ones I have:
*Area 1*
Masaje Sirena
Masaje El Encanto
Masaje Brenda
Masaje Michael
Masaje Venus
*Area 2*
Masaje Corpus
Masaje Felina
Masaje Genesis
Masaje Le Petit
Masaje Marilyn
Masaje Roma
*Area 3*
Masaje Consuelo
Masaje Loryed
*Downtown*
Masaje Cleopatra
Guys. Listen to DE on the insurance thing. I live here full time and my American insurance stops at the toll booth. A visitor to NL recently was T-boned while making an illegal U-Turn on Reforma. Luckily, he had a rich daddy wha was able to wire his ass the money to pay off the injured parties and pay the cops for their time investigationg the accident. He had State Farm. Buy a Mexican Policy from Sanborn's. Cheap er, Insurance! No pun intended!
Dreaming Eagle,
Hey, I'm not here to criticize anyone or start a flame war with anybody. I don't doubt what you guys are saying about the auto insurance coverage. I too have just spoken with my Allstate insurance agent recently and asked very specific questions about insurance coverage while driving in Mexico. The agent said that my auto full coverage is valid in Mexico up to 75 miles from the border. I specifically asked about collision and comprehensive and the agent said I was covered. But, I've heard these conflicting reports about insurance coverage for years as well.
I have no doubt the Mexican insurance policy is valid. Maybe it's one of those things. The American policy is only as good as the Mexican police that ends up investigating and writing up the auto accident report. Check your PM.
I was told the exact same same by my Allstate agent, 75 miles for a maximum of 10 consecutive days, I would however get it in writing, translated into Spanish, before I trusted it....
I no longer have Allstate ins, so it no longer applies to me.
Another goood rule of thumb would be to read the policy and all the riders attached. If your policy and riders do not SPECIFICALLY STATE, that your coverage is valid in Mexico, then it is not. Despite what the Agent, his mother, brother etc. might try to tell you differently. If it ain't in writing it ain't valid. PERIOD!
But now if some of you want to take the chance, go ahead and if in the event of an accident, you'll start to believe what we preach. And maybe when you're in the local carcel with big Jose lustfully eyeing your ass with romance in mind, maybe you'll think, Well hell, maybe those guys knew what they were talking about!"
About auto insurance, AFAIK, NO US policy covers liability in Mexico, and so if you don't have Mexican auto insurance you can, and will, be thrown in jail until you cough up the pesos to pay anyone that you hit. If this is indefinitely, so be it.
I see no reason for my insurance agent to mislead me into believing I am covered in Mexico. He never made it a selling point. I inquired about it after I got the policy and was told I was covered up to 25 miles into Mexico. I have called other providers and they have specifically stated no, their policy does not cover Mexico and I have to get insurance seperately.
However BorderJumper makes a good point, word in print is more valuable than word by mouth. BJumper impresses me as being one cool motherfucker. I will take his word over some long winded posters here(ok not some, just one in particular). His word is not law but BJumper hit the nail on the head. I am going to call my agent Monday to ask and show me in writing for my peace of mind.
Thanks BJumper, you are one cool motherfucker.
You guys are correct on the insurance issue. Here is a link that supports your statements on buying Mexican insurance.
From the US Consulate General - Cuidad Juarez
http://usembassy.state.gov/posts/mx2/wwwhacsinsurance.html
I'm gonna make one more run at persuading any remaining insurance know-it-alls (one in particular) to listen to the voice of experience. There are two issues if you have an accident in Juarez: (1) whether your insurance ultimately covers your damages, and any others you're liable for, and (2) what happens at the scene. BorderJumper is knowledgeable and absolutely right that you should always read your policy if in doubt. If you have a reputable agent/company and it's in writing, you'll ultimately get your money.
But you'll be filing that U.S. insurance claim only AFTER friends and family get your ass out of the Juarez jail, which will happen only AFTER they pay the damages (in cash) of any Mexican citizens involved in the crash, and maybe a bribe or two. The only insurance which Juarez cops will sometimes accept is a MEXICAN insurance policy in SPANISH. You can get these from U.S. brokers near the border....but if you think your English Allstate (or other U.S.) policy will help you WHILE IN MEXICO, you haven't been paying attention.
U.S. visitors spend a night or two in the Juarez jail all the time, for accidents which often were not their fault. The several I know personally never even got a phone call from jail. I'm sure many of them consulted with agents and read their (U.S.) policy, and were confident they were covered. Forget it.
Unfortunately even a valid Mexico policy may not be a free pass--Juarez cops are corrupt and the place is legally unpredictable--but please believe me, DE & others on this one. A valid U.S. policy with Mexico coverage (in writing) may help you later, but it's worthless at the scene. You at least have a CHANCE with a Mexican policy.
Westex,
That is the way it is in Coahuila. I went through it and you nailed it right on. They (MX Police) want the policy in Spanish and you will more than likely pay a bribe and do like me and get an "amparo" to stay out of jail. That is they way it works most of the time.
JD
Ok, enough with the insurance bullshit. The U.S. Consulate website says plenty for me.
Inspite of it all I went to Genesis early Saturday evening regardless of the insurance thing. Paid 30 bucks and selected a girl named Candy. She may or may not be the one mentioned on this board. Great service. Lets just say I love and ass kisser. Fair massage very conversive better than average sex. Not as great as MariLu but a nice change to the same old nasty. Candy has a fantastic ass and she did a wonderful, responsive cowgirl on me.
In the lobby I did not notice but later I did, she has 3 big scars on her upper left cheek. Still a pretty girl.
For no more than it costs to get Mexican insurance, I always buy it, then if something happens you have a Mexican company on your side. Mexican insurance also carries a large bail bond gaurantee with it.......
It's expensive for one day, but reasonable by the week....and it might keep you out of some deep do-do.....
Hello all,
I'm brand new to this Forum, just got my account activated today, yea!
First and foremost, top of the morning to all.
So, in reading all these wonderfull posts I noticed not a word has been said about the NEW PINK LADY? I was thier not long ago. About 3 weeks ago to be exact and they have some very sexy ladies thier. I had a pettite, long hair'd, soft and sensual babe (Im very picky). I will actually go from bar to bar and waste hours unitll I find exactlly what im looking for. But at the NPL I saw about 4 very sexy and pretty girls. Anyways. I paid $100 for 1 hour with her. She gave me BJ, Sex and then massage, and then BJ, Sex and Massage again. For $100 I dont think thats a bad price. The owner also told me they are open 24 hours a day every day of the week. But you guys are the experts.
For those who have PMed and are interested in getting from the Greyhound bus station in El Paso to a massage parlor in Juarez, here is the most convenient way to go about it.
If you want a cab, there are a number of cabs parked at the parking lot at the Greyhound terminal. It will cost you about $5 one way to get to the border. All you have to do is tell them that you want to get to the border.
If you want to walk, go east on San Antonio Avenue until you hit El Paso St. Go south on El Paso St and it evenutally becomes the border bridge. This should take less than 10 minutes. Pay $0.35 at the booth and go across to Juarez. When you get to Juarez, this street becomes Avenida Juarez.
There will be a number of taxi drivers at the first couple of blocks on Juarez. For convenience sake, get one stationed at the left side of the street, since Avenida Juarez is a one way street going north and sometimes it is difficult for the taxi driver to cross Juarez to go east, which is where most of the massage parlors are located. When a taxi driver ask where you want to go, say that you want to go to the corner of Panama and Hermanos Escobar at the Villa Manport hotel. Get off at this corner so that you don't get charged extra by the massage establishment by using a taxi driver. This fare should cost no more than $5.
When you get there, you will see 2 massage parlors, Sirena, which is across the street from the Villa Manport hotel, and El Encanto, which is on the same side of the Villa Manport hotel except that it is about a block down. Look for a large sign of the Herradura restaurant. You can't miss it at the corner of Hermanos Escobar and Panama. El Encanto is right next to this restaurant.
Dreaming Eagle has been kind enough to garner for us mongers coupons for Sirena which will make your hour session go from $40 to $30. This will make up for the taxi fare from downtown. You can get this at http://www.juarez-mexico.com/Coupons/SirenaCoupon.jpg.
An hour at El Encanto is only $30, so you don't need a coupon for that place. Also they have advertised that they accept credit cards. There is no difference between the quality of service between the two establishments, hence I don't know the reason for the discrepancy in price.
When you want to go back to the US, go east on Hermanos Escobar, the direction away from Avenida Juarez. You will soon encounter a park where ther is a taxi stand. Ask one of the guys that you want to go back to downtown (el centro) and he should only charge you $5.
One could take the bus to these places plus to other massage parlors but it is a more complicated process. I literally had to walk all over Juarez to figure out how the bus system works.
This is the easiest way to get to a massage parlor from downtown El Paso. Thus for about $40, one could partake in an activity that would cost about $160 or more (an hour massage plus full service fee) in the U.S.
By the way all of the massage parlors close around 9 p.m. Moreover, Sirena is closed on Sundays whereas El Encanto stays open all week long.
Joaquin 2000:
I had been to the New Pink Lady and it is a lot better than the old one considering that its size almost doubled from its old location. I paid $40 for about 40 minutes with a girl named Claudia.
However, because of its location, it has not been my favorite spot. It is out of the way from the bar scene in el centro. Plus the neighborhood around it looks a bit too dangerous for me, especially at night. I understand the reason why they needed a new place, but to choose where they are now is puzzling to me.
In addition, for $25 to $30, one could partake in an hour of massage and full service in the massage parlors throughout the city. The only bad thing about them is that they are closed by 9 p.m. I think they are a better value than the bars. Plus, in places like the Pink Lady's and Panama, one has to constantly tip a number of people, such as the negotiator, the waiter, and the condom lady.
Just got back From Juarez visited the Pink Lady, Panama, Casa Corona, and the Joker. I have to say I am a little spoiled to Brasil but Juarez is fun. Pink lady is a nice place GFE but the only think I hate is that everyone and there mother wants a tip and this does bug but it was fun FS, bbj, daty. Panama was dead not as happy as Pink lady but I did not get rushed out of the room and got FS with 2 pops but selection was slim. Casa Corona was dead as hell not worth the time. Joker wow if you have not been it is the best I have found in Juarez there are to location girls from all over the world they have the cream of the crop excellent striptease girls but you will pay for the extra service 300-400 range but with a top quality 9-to 10 range chicks location not so bad either. This time I just scouted Joker next visit I will go there first and go for quality not quantity.
Happy hoen.
Sundevil, if you have actually figured out how the Juarez bus system works you have my congratualtions. I have been riding the busses in Juarez for YEARS and I still don't know how they work. It seems the lines come and go and change names and routes and stuff and each trip I have to learn things all over again. But that is part of the adventure. And a part of town and of Mexico most gringos will never see. At least Sun Metro publishes their routes, as crappy as they are. I have yet to find any source of information about the routes the busses in Juarez run. You just have to learn your way around near as I can figger.
DreamingEagle, did your trip to Los Moches start in Chihuahua, and if so how did you get there? The train or the bus? Did you purchase your visa at the border or at this "checkpoint" I have heard about at the 25 mile mark? I would like to visit Chihuahua on my next trip down, even if it is only for a day or two.
Everybody, I know the thread has been beaten into the ground, but I am still going to put my 2 cents worth in. My State Farm policy states right there in black and white that my coverage extends into Mexico. But I'll be damned if I will put my ass in a sling to prove it.
SunDevil RN,
Thanks for the update. I wasnt aware the New Pink Lady is in a bad part of town. Ive always gone in the day and other than being harrased by the she-males, boy Is that ever an experience, Ive never have much trouble, but then again it was 5:30 so daylight was still holding the criminal types at bay. Plus im dark, black hair hispanic and speak fluid spanish so that helps.
I agree about the tipping everyone and thier mom at the New Pink Lady. That got old real quick. Let me see, I paiid $100 for the beautifull young pettite lady I got. Happy about that. I paid about $20 in drinks, that sucked since I was drinking Pepsi, and then some guy came and tried to sell me Toilet Paper and Two condoms for $10, I gave him $5, told him I had my own Jimmy Hats and send him on his way. all in all I payed $130 for one hour. I guess I got ripped off If I can hit a MP for $30. :-(
Suna: where about is the Joker? I dont recall ever being thier. I would like to partake in the plethora of 9's and 10's as well. I guess im just a quality over quantity type of guy. If I see a girl I like, I dont really tihnk of the money im spending, as long as I get my way. :-)
As far as driving your car over the border, I wouldnt do it. The bus sistem isnt that bad, and taxi's are a good thing. Forget the insurance and all that jazz. Just one look at the kind of cars peaple drive in juarez, and more importantly how they drive. Makes New York look like a country rooad, this alone should persuade you not to. They won't think twice about slamming into your nice car with thier junker. One more dent in thiers won't hurt them any.
Joaquin2000,
When I go to Juarez we drive across the central border and shortly across there is a street where the Taxi hang out we use the same driver his name is Marcos he is a boxer usually works evenings he is a great guy and will make sure you are safe and you have fun he is worth the cash. Just let him no you want to go to Jokers number one or 2 they are the best in Juarez girls from all over the world but if you are looking for cheep this is not the place.
Hope that helps,
Peace
Suna,
I'll look out for that taxi driver. Hook him up with some $$$.
Hey, if the girls are all you say they are, ill drop the bank. A great girl is never over priced. Well, thier is a limit.. :-)
I'll be going to Juarez in about 2 weeks. I live about 4 hours from the border so I only go about twice a month. Boy I wish I lived in El Paso. If only thier were good paing jobs. :-(
What about non bar workers? SW? where is a good place to pick them up? ive been to juarez and crusied around, but thier are so many peaple all the time, I cant tell whos who. Any tips? roads? sure bets?
Joaquin:
Since you mentioned that you speak Spanish you might want to try some of the Salons del Baile in the area south of the cathedral on Ave. De la Paz (a walking street) and on the street south of there. ( just ask any one in the area where El Nuevo Vaqueros,
la Puerta or Juaritos is.) In these places there are plenty of women suited for a variety of tastes. I'd say more than half are freelance working girls. The routine is you ask the girl to dance and are expected to pay 5 pesos propina per dance. Then just see where it goes from there. If the one you choose is not a pro there's always a chance she'll be interested in a short trip to one of the many short time hotels in the area or she might hook you up with one that is. You will see also a few hotels with girls beckoning from the doorway both on de la Paz and on the other street. The area is a bit scary but lately there is a definite police presense. If you carry yourself well and don't make a problem you shouldn't have any problems. I've been going to these places for over a year and have never had a problem even though I am always the only non Mexican in the place. One important thing to remember is to avoid any kind of confrontation when in theses places. Fighting is not tolerated and both all parties involved are usually roughly extracted and turned over to the police. If nothing else it defiantly worth your time if you are the adventurous type. By the way, the working girl price ranges from 10 - 20 dollars.
I have to agree Jokers is great. It is news to me about #2? Where is it at? (Since I drive). If you have been to Amadeus what do you think about that one?
Be safe all,
JD
I've read about Marilu quite a few times here, so I've stopped in Queens bar a number of times lately to check it out. I usually didn't bother before.
Anyway, she's just as absolutely hot as others have said in their posts. Tall, long black hair, slinky bod, smiles a awful lot, and certainly seems to enjoy talking to the customers and dancing.
I've haven't gone with her to a room yet. She's sometimes difficult to get to because she's often at a table with 3 or 4 guys! Anyway, I did talk to her once. She said she's 24 and has 5 kids! Amazing! Well, they say giving birth is the ultimate orgasm.
What also amazes me about this place is that there are a LOT of very good looking, hot women! Maybe it's just because I'm new in this place or the light isn't good or something, but the selection looks much better than Panama, Pink Lady, or Casa Colorado. Irma's selection looks pretty awful to me, but I haven't been there much so maybe I hit a couple of off nights.
What do you guys think about Hollywood, Vegas, and Fausto's?
Another question for you guys.
Not long ago, I did something wrong or didn't do something I was supposed to and made one of the girls I have known for a while absolutely furious with me. Seriously, I don't know what I did or said that was so bad. Maybe it was a cultural thing...I'm not fluent in Spanish. Maybe just one of those insensitive things that women accuse men of doing all the time. Whatever it was, one second everything was fine, the next it was buddy I never want to see or talk to you again.
This upset me more than little bit. I don't go to Juarez - or anywhere else for that matter - to make people mad at me. And the look in her eyes was just absolutely cold. Would have been better if she had slapped me or something. After about a week, she seemed to settle down. A little bit.
Anyways, do you gentlemen find that latinas can react this way? You know, absolutely furious? More hot-blooded perhaps than other girls?
Bachelor Warrior:
The latina is one of God's most complex creations. She is very loving, such as to her kids and love ones, which is culturally distinctive. Latinos are some of the most loving people I have ever met. You should see how many flock to a room during visiting hours when their love ones are sick in the health care facility where I work. Some latinas have even shaved or hand washed their fathers or husbands. Truly amazing! I have never seen this with Anglo families and it breaks my heart to tell them to leave after visiting hours have ended.
On the other hand, if you make a latina angry, watch out! They are like serpents, especially when they are jealous. I don't exactly know what you did, but the behavior you described is not atypical to something that they would do towards someone who has crossed them.
I think deep down they know that men are fickle people, always wanting to bang another chick. Thus they are possessive and passionate about those they care about or don't want to lose. Somewhat ironic considering that some men are turned off by this type of behavior.
Beetlejuice,
Thanks for the info, deffinatelly right up my alley. The salones sound like a great trip. Yea, my Spanish is quite fluent, equal to my english, so I shouln't have much trouble.
Bachelor Warrior
As far as the Latina is concerned.
O Man, let me put my two cheap cents in.
Ive dated a wide assortment of nationalities, not to brag, but I like variety. Anyways, I have found that the latina woman is the best when it comes to taking care of her man, Loyalty is a talent 90% of latinas have. Excellent lovers and unchallenged home makers. She will be your best friend and faithfull companion. But it all comes with a price, the latina is not very submissive, She WILL speak her mind, and you WILL listen. Latinas are also a bit controlling, the best way to get away with stuff with a latina is to always make her think it was her idea. They love to lauph, so when your in the company of a latina or latinas, be a little goofy, this will get you far. They are also very reseptive to Kino, so hold her hand, caress her face & rub her legs and you will get extra loving :-)
Be aware, most of the guys bar girls meet are not to sensitive to the girls. These Guys know that regardless of how they act towards her, their still gonna tap that ass. So, armed with that tid bit, if yo go into the bar, treat her like the interesting person she is, show her you appreciate her services she will most likely please you much better than she will the jerk. You'll litteraly get more BANG for your BUCK :-)
Batchelor Warrior,
One thing I have found out very quickly is that there are no secrets when you are a gringo in Juarez. Meaning, that if anyone in the bars has seen you with/ or talking with another girl, your amiga WILL know soon. (assuming that your amiga works the bar scene).
I have had this happen more than a few times, and I will get the "treatment" on my next visit, for a little dalliance I had in Queens. I had three women pissed at me two trips ago, and none this time, so maybe I'm learning!
Las latinas are the most demanding and giving women I have ever met. Demanding in that they expect you to totally focused on them, even while they work a room of guys. Giving in that if they like you, they will work very hard to make you happy while you are with them.
Queens is my new fave spot, replacing Casa Colorado, which has lost all the chicas I so dearly loved (Letty, Sarah,and Lidia).
Hollywood , Vegas , Ermas , Faustos, etc are pretty much hit or miss. I have stopped into each and seen nothing but gordas, and have gone back a nite later and have seen an absolute hottie. No rhyme or reason there.
With Marilu, you really need to make significant eye contact with her. I have not had her, my friend has, and he said she was pretty amazing. I see another girl there regularily, (when she shows up) , who is Marilu's friend, and when we sit at the same table, I can't keep my eyes off of Marilu, and she with me. I know THAT is gonna come back to bite me later.
As a public service note,
Had a "girl" sidle up to me last trip, as my buddy and I were walking back from Queens , who offered BJ for both for 10 bucks. Nice tits, good face, but as my buddy reached for "her " crotch she starts backing off. We send her off, but I'm evil so I call "her" back over to talk for a sec just for grins. He /she gets really aggressive and grabs my johnson thru my pants and won't let go, leading me to quietly tell it that if it doesn't let go NOW I was gonna break it's neck. It releases me like I was radioactive.
Last time I try to be chatty.
Moral: Unless that is your cup or tea, probably best to give a wide berth. Ouch.
Bachelor Warrior,
I found your 2 post amusing. I have seen Marilu's anger. It is usually very intense and spiteful. On the rare occassion she has gotten mad, I have no idea why but it only lasted about no more than 2 minutes and then she is as sweet as can be.
You should have taken her to the room. It isn't like you missed out on an opportunity but when you do have her, you will realize you have wasted time. Fuck her dude.
As for the other clubs, I don't like Hollywood. The waiters are ripoffs and the chicas aren't worth it. Rarely have I seen a chica worth my time. Las Vegas is pretty cool. Lots of hot chicas, same owners as Queens Place. They use the same rooms as Queens although I have never taken a chica from there. Janet sometimes works at Vegas and is worth it. I had her once before she worked anywhere. Good kid. Faustos has lots of hot chicas but no rooms and the exit fine is like the chicas, expensive.
One more thing, fuck her dude.
The Filthy One
Sounds like my ex bitches attitude when we split up. One minute loving as hell and the next after I answered a question I wasn't sure I understand, cold and furious as hell!
For you mongers interested in Queens chicas, I have a few, in additon to Mugroso's now infamous Marilu.
Look for Suki, who has blondish hair ,and wears thigh high boots. She is a bit reserved at the table in the bar, tip her when she stage dances, then ask for a lap dance and she warms up quickly. (Tipping any of the girls while they dance onstage will get you big smiles and attention). In the room , she was all action. I went to see my favorite MP girl the next day, and she asked where I got the claw marks on my back, (that I didn't remember getting) "ummm, an accident, baby".
Went back the next nite looking for Suki, and no show. Met up with Yvonne, a cute petite little number ( think Marilu sized down to 5 feet tall). Wasn't terribly interested in her at first (was watching for Suki or Marilu), but after talking with her ( and her spanish is easy to understand) a while, and tipping her a dance or two, I got the lap dance from hell and took her right up to a room. To cut to the chase, I don't think her ass EVER touched the bed , and she was on the bottom. The girl has hydrolic hips. They just don't stop moving. VERY highly recommended.
There also was a girl named Yvette there the same nite, with blondish hair. Great body, gyrates fairly nicely onstage, but after watching Marilu and Yvonne work the stage, you can pretty well see what you're getting en la cama. Those girls bring it!
Enjoy mates!
Hello,
I have lived in El Paso for a good part of my life and have now considered going into Mexico for a 'massage'. I would like to go to Masajes Romas, as it seems I will have the best chance of finding a pretty girl, I don't mind spending a little extra if there is a better chance of a good one. The only problem is getting there. I could drive but I would probably rather take a taxi.
Which leads to another problem, is Romas close to a place so that I could just ask the cab driver to drop me off there. I don't mind walking a few minutes, just don't want to arouse suspicion. And perhaps my last problem would be getting back to the bridge, any advice on how to accomplish this?
Actually if it is not too hard to get there from a bridge by driving, I could try that as well. I just need exact directions because I have not driven much in Juarez.
I would sincerely appreciate a response.
Thank You.
Anyone keeping up with the graveyard house story in Juarez. Here is a link.
http://www.diario.com.mx/nota.asp?notaid=089fce23aa051359ae5b8f4695aeb1f4
If it doesn't work check out Diario on line at diario.com.mx
French Mistake, there is a Churches Chicken right in front of Roma's MP on Lopez Mateos. Good luck. One other thing, your nick sounds like something that belongs on a gay site. I say this because of the song in "Blazing Saddles".
French Mistake,
Try Masajes Venus. 1126 Av. A. Lincoln. Just take the free bridge and go south on Ave. de las Americas. Go right when you get to Hns. Escobar then right on Lincoln. Look for the Socitia Bank on the right. Pull in to the parking lot (just before Montana Cattle Co.) & you're there. It's an easy drive from the bridge and when you're done just go north on Lincoln straight back to the bridge. About a 5 - 10 minute drive from the bridge on safe (by Juarez standards) streets.
Venus tends to be about 5 -10 dollars higher than most places. Last time I was there it was 40/400 but the selection and quality of girls tends to be consistant. Unfortunatly there has been a lot of upselling as in quite a few places lately so be sure you agree on all inclusive beforehand with a promise of a generouse tip if all goes well. Enjoy!
[b]Queens is my new fave spot, replacing Casa Colorado, which has lost all the chicas I so dearly loved (Letty, Sarah,and Lidia).[/b]
I'm not sure which Letty was your favorita, but one of them is back. Lety #1 de Chihuahua was back in December. She grew her hair longer and looks better than before.
She worked up until Christmas and went back to Chihuahua. She said she'd be back about mid January.
As for Letty #2, well I haven't seen or heard anything about her lately.
Zuzax out
Gents,
Thanks very much for the insights into latina culture and the other bars. Very helpful. I believe I have mostly mended the fences with "mi buena amiga". She still seems to think I have another woman somewhere. Even told me her name. That was cool because I don't even remember a girl by that name! I lavish enough time, attention, and money on mi favorita that I wonder how the hell she can think I have any left over for another chick. Once upon a time, I strayed into Hollywood. I agree that's it's super overpriced. Haven't been back since. Casa Colorado seems to have taken a definite step down. I was there the other day and I agree with that.
More later...
Letty #2 is/was my favorita by far. I've got these memories of walking up that flight of steps to the rooms, and seeing that most beautiful ass leading me there.
I did see Letty #1 my last trip (jan 18), but gave her a bit of a wide berth even though I have been with her twice before.. A little too aggressive for my taste. She does look better with longer hair.
Thanks for the info, Zuzax.
El Paso Times is also following the graveyard house story .www.elpasotimes.com. Check 7day archive in local news. Certainly a reminder that "you're not in Kansas anymore".
For you fellow gringos,
If you you take cabs around Juarez, I can save you a bit of money. Never pay with dollars, get the cost in pesos. The cabbies will never have change for US, so if you have pesos they nearly always give you coin back, which you can drop at the bar or as you leave at the bridge. I have done this for the last three trips and it saved a lot of my monger-dollars. Go to a cambio and change $20us. More than enough.
I'm wondering if it would be cheaper to pay in pesos at the bars and MP as well. I've never tried it. Has anyone taken US money traded it for pesos and went to a massaje or a bar and paied that way? Did you get a cheaper deal because they saw pesos? Or does it really matter.
Doesn't seem to make a difference in the bars and MP's. I have paid in both peso's and dollars. The cabs seem to be the only advantage. If the fare is say $8us ,and you give the cabbie a $10, he won't have change..so you just gave a $2 tip. Usually, they will have pesos in their pockets or the ashtray for change from a 100 peso note.
I have never paid in dollars, only pesos. Pesos are accepted everywhere in Juarez. If a cab driver, bar or MP charges you in dollars, just add a zero to it and pay it by pesos, i.e. 40 dollars = 400 pesos.
The exchage rate between dollar and peso fluctuates on a daily basis but for argument sake it is 10 pesos for every dollar. That means that one peso cost $0.10, or a dime. The 400 pesos that you paid is equal to 40 dollars. So there is no advantage to paying in pesos. However, the reality right now is that it is about 11 pesos for every dollar. Again, the exchange rate fluctuates. It could be more or it could be less tomorrow.
That means that one peso equals $0.091. If you pay a massage parlor 400 pesos, you are paying them $36.36, a savings of $3.64.
However, the higher the fee, the more you save. If you go to a place like the Pink Ladies and spend $130, the cost in 1300 pesos is $118.18, a savings of $11.82.
On the flip side to this is when you exchange your peso back into dollars. Usually the money changers have a different rates for selling back pesos. This is usually about .50 pesos higher. So if you have 100 pesos that you want to exchange back into dollars, and the exchange rate to get dollars is 10.50 pesos, you will only get $9.50, not $10.
There are two amounts that the money changers post at their windows, one for compra and the other for vende. Compra means buy and it is the amount the money changers will exchange your dollars for pesos. Thus it is best to look for the money changer that is willing to pay the highest amount for this.
Vende means sell and it is the amount that the money changer will exchange your pesos for dollars. Therefore it is a good idea to look for the lowest vende amount when seeking a money changer to sell your pesos in order to get dollars back.
The caveat to all this is to exchange only what you plan to spend because of the difference in amount between compra and vende. I have tried to make this as simple as possible. Hopefully it has not confused anybody.
For those of you who are interested in a massage parlor in downtown Juarez, there is Cleopatra. This place is at Ignacio Mejia and Juarez, which is about 6 blocks from the border.
Turn left at the corner of the aforementioned streets and it is the middle business establishment on the right hand side of the street. Next to it is a dentist office.
The cost is about 300 pesos for one hour. This establishment is somewhat shoddy. However, for those who do not have time to go elsewhere but downtown, it is appropriate enough.
For the veterans of the stripper bar scene, since I have not partaked in them that much, I have a few questions.
Are all the dancers at places such as Queens available for P4P? If not, how do I found which ones are available? Maybe ask the waiters?
Also, how come some of the girls go naked while others don't take off any of their clothes, however skimpy.
What is the average fee for a session? This would include the breakdown for drinks for the customer, for her, for the exit fee from the strip bar, the hotel fee (if there is any), the session fee (and how long), and fee for an all nighter (if that is a possibility).
My experience at Queens has been: I think all the dancers there are available, if THEY like you. The management is not pushy unlike other places, and the girl seems to have the choice (at least according to one amiga there) whether she wants to go to a room. Easiest just to sit with her ,buy a few drinks, and then ask. I actually let part of one nite slip away, because I was a bit unsure and didn't want offend this girl, so I kept waiting for the waiter or her to ask, and neither did.
Dancing sin ropa is up to them as well. Actually, I think they HAVE to leave something on by law (maybe?), I've seen many hold their tops in their teeth, or around their necks.
Fees have been $50 us for 1/2 hour,$100 us whole hour, and NO TIPPING of the girl. Drinks for you are 3.50us , for her 6-7us. (beers. liquor is much higher). There is no hotel fee, and they have rooms next door that are not bad.
Have not had one out all nite yet, so have no info as to how caro that becomes.
I went to both Genesis and Venus on Super Bowl Sunday. I could not believe how empty the streets were compared to the rest of the week. I guess all the people of Juarez were downtown, in the malls, or at home.
At Genesis, I saw Candy. I told her that it has been reported on this board that she is married and is living in Dallas.
Laughing her head off, she indicated that she has been gone the past 2 months because of a motor vehicle accident. She showed me the scars on the left side of her face and her left arm to prove it.
After our session together, she told me that her birthday was this Saturday and that she will be turning 24. I guess that is a hint that I should be bringing her a present this weekend.
After recuperating at the Rio Grande Mall over coffee and cake, I decided to go to Venus. Walking from the mall to the corner of Lincoln and Hermanos Escobar took less than 15 minutes. At first I thought Venus was closed since the parking lot was empty. I still knocked on the door however and someone opened it. There were 3 girls working there at the time, which was approximately 4:00 in the afternoon.
I chose a 21 year old girl from Guadalajara. For those interested in svelte and light skinned Mexican women, Venus is a place that I highly recommend. After the session, I decided to go next door to a betting bar and watch the Super Bowl.
After being carded (I guess I still look like a minor to some people), I eased in to watch the beginning of the second quarter. They have food there and for $3.00 I was able to get a plate of Chinese food. Go figure.
Anyway, this area of town is a lot cleaner than el centro. There is an abundance of restaurants nearby, such as Caruso, Sanborn, Montana steak house, and a sushi bar, in addition to the betting bar.
After watching one of the best Super Bowls ever, amidst a number of Mexican men who were truly into the game, I decided to head back to the US. I went back to Triunfo again to catch a bus to downtown and the border. All told I spent less than $80 (actually less than that considering that I paid in pesos) during a great afternoon and evening of fun. For my sesssion at Genesis - $30, my session at Venus - $40, bus rides - $0.80, and food and drinks - $7.
You are right about the area, very nice ,and improving. That is where I stay when I'm in Juarez, which is beginning to be every thirty days, from the looks of my credit cards.
Venus is behind the banco, si? It ALWAYS looks closed, no idea why. I have been there once, had an okay experience, but felt it a little sexually cold, maybe because I had a few nights with some of my favorites previous. The only thing I don't like is the guys hanging at Montana's watching as one looks around. It doesn't bother me in el centro, but around there I feel like I'm slinking about.
Did you bet while in the bar ? I've been curious about that place, but never stopped in as I was always either going to Caruso's or El Herradero's for dinner,or just walking about. Or hitting the Mp's during the day/late afternoon.
To echo an earlier comment, if you have the busses figured out, I will pay a king's ransom for that info. Menos taxis, mas chicas.
SunDevilRN - you must be an economics professor. That was an excellent explanation of the dollar/peso exchange rate in your post "I never paid in dollars ......"
I understand that all well now but wish someone would have tutored me a number of years ago.
Thanks for the input.
EPG
Rear Window:
Trying to figure which bus to ride depends on the time of day, where you want to go, and what destinations they have on their windshields.
TIME OF DAY:
Most buses run during daylight hours and a couple of hours after dark. However, the only ones I know that run after 9:00 p.m. are the buses that run on Triunfo de la Republica/16th de Septiembre. If you are a walker, this street is easily accessible from Genesis, Venus, and the Joker.
What you have to do is look at the windshields of these buses and make sure that there is the word "Centro" on it. This indicates that the bus is indeed going downtown and, hence, the border or the red light district.
Unfortunately around Francisco Villa Avenue these buses go in certain directions, depending on their lines. As of yet, I have not figured this out.
WHERE YOU WANT TO GO:
I generally cross the Stanton street bridge to go to Mexico. The reason being is that it is less crowded and it is convenient way for me to grab the 8-A bus.
This bus stops in front of the pharmacy near Lerdo and the Malecon, the first street that you encounter into Mexico.
The 8-A bus goes from that stop, east on the Malecon, turn right on Lincoln, around the Plaza de las Americas mall, turn right on Lopez Mateos, and all the way to Oscar Flores, which is way down south.
Thus on this route you can hit a number of places literally at their front doors: Paraiso on the Malecon, Venus on Lincoln, Joker on Insurgente, and Roma on, I think, 8 de Marzo.
However if you want to walk you can get to Encanto, Brenda's or Sirena on Hermanos Escobar, Genesis or LePetit on Montes de Oca and Marylin on Del Ejido by using this bus 8-A.
The complex thing about this bus is that, because Lopez Mateos is one way going south, you have to catch the 8-B on Plutarco Elias Calles to go back north and thus back to the border.
Plutarco Elias Calles is the next major street on the east side of Lopez Mateos and it is one way going north. I think it is about one quarter of a mile walk from Lopez Mateos.
Another way to get to Marylin, Genesis, LePetit and the Joker, as well as Felinas, Corpus, Loryed and Xuma, is to use the buses that stop on Lerdo and Vicente Guerrero, which is south of 16th de Septiembre.
These buses use Vicente Guerrero as a main artery and look at their windshield for their destinations. The main thing to look for are the words"Futurama", "Hipermart", or "San Lorenzo". Thus you can use these buses to stop at Peru in order to walk to Felinas or Corpus, or Paraguay to walk to Xuma, which is on the corner of Paraguay and Ninos Heroes.
Unfortunately, these buses will curve back north on to Triunfo de la Republica so you have to stop at the corner of Montes de Oca and Triunfo in order to walk to Genesis, Le Petit or Marylin, or the corner of Triunfo and Lopez Mateos to get to Roma and the Joker, which is kind of silly considering that it is easier to use the 8-A in order to get to these destinations.
These buses will cross Lopez Mateos and head east. In order to get to Loryed you will have to stop on Marcos de Niza and walk a couple of block south.
WHAT THEY HAVE ON THEIR WINDSHIELDS:
This is the method of figuring where these buses are going. However, if you want to get back to downtown on Hermanos Escobar after a session at Encanto or Sirena, just wait for a bus heading west. They all stop near the border on Malecon.
I hope this helps.
By the way, I did not bet at the betting bar but one could have. I did not want to ruin a nice day by losing money.
I would have lost considering that I thought that New England was going to win by more than a touchdown.
There were other categories to choose from, such as which player was going to score the first touchdown, whether a 2-pt. conversion was going to be attempted by any team, and whether a field goal was going to be missed. I think the minimum bet was $50.
Also do not worry what other Mexicans think about you going to Venus. They are probably envious to the fact that you can afford to make love to a good looking Mexican woman and they cannot. I have learned through my encounter with the Mexican cops that prostitution and paying for sex is seen as a normal thing in Mexico.
Providers have told me that they see themselves as providing a needed service to men who cannot have access to wives or girlfriends sexually because their wives/girlfriends are visiting out-of-town relatives, pregnant, or on the rag.
It is only through our Puritan culture that makes us self-conscious when we go see these girls. You can see this by the fact that everyone is making such a big deal about Janet Jackson's exposed breast. Big deal!! In other countries as well as Waikiki or Venice beach in US, women take off their bikini tops while going to the beach.
El Paso Gentleman:
Thanks for the compliment.
Actually I am not an economics professor but I did take both micro- and macroeconomics as an undergrad to fulfill my prerequisite requirements for graduation.
To clarify things with regards to my earlier post, the commodity that is being bought and sold by the money changers is dollars.
Thus they are buying dollars (compra) from you for a set amount and selling them (vende) to you for another. The difference between the two amounts is their profit margin. Therefore it is best to get the highest compra amount and the lowest vende amount.
Hey Mongers:
I'll be doing the circuit in beautiful Juarez (and yes I have been there many times). My old favorite Casa Colorado has been reviewed poorly by RN SunDevil and DreamingEagle (you guys are great contributors - keep it up). I'll still have to stop in for old time sake.
I was hoping to get recommendations on places to stay on either side of the border that offer clean, decent rooms and convenient to the both the ladies and the tourist traps in Juarez. My hope would be a nice place around $50 or under.
One thing I'd especially like to try is getting a hotel in Juarez and getting a lady to spend the entire night. Any recommendations, warnings, coupons ;-), or hints would be greatly appreciated.
Of course, I'll post my experiencesnext month.
SunDevil RN,
The ransom is yours. I always stay in Juarez now, and I usually stay on Lincoln , so I would grab the bus around the Plaza. I followed everything until the Genesis-LePetit on Montes de Oca. That runs north -south , yes? I thought that Marilyn was on Del Ejido at Montes de Oca, not Lerdo, or am I hopelessly lost here?
Unless you mean that Lerdo is the closest stop. Man, I need a freakin map now (and some aspirin). I have walked back from Marilyn a few times (and it's a looooong walk), and back from Sirena a few as well (MUCH shorter) , so walking's no problem. Mentally, I can picture it, I just get a little hazy around Del Ejido, as I can never find it on a map, and I'm always woozy after I leave Marilyn.
I'll give it a try this time, and leave plenty of time before closing time, just in case.
The bus to el centro seems to be quite easy, and I'll definitely use that to get there.
Muchas gracias.
Rear Window:
Lerdo is the street close to the border from the Stanton bridge where you can catch the 8-A bus.
Del Ejido is off Lopez Mateos. You have to go west a couple of blocks to get to Marylin from there.
Thus two different streets. Sorry if I have confused you.
A good map you can perused is located at the lobby of the Santa Fe hotel on the corner of Tlaxcala and Lerdo.
The hotel also offers a decent breakfast plus the fact that you can take a chicks upstairs for an all nighter. Cost is about $35 per night. I have taken to this place a number of chicas from Casa for all nighters in the past.
This post should answer Ogman's question as well.
RearWindow.......
Marylins is on Juan Escueta, I think I spelled that right, it is the first main street before Montes de Oca and runs the opposite direction....easy to get to from Vicente Guerrero, just turn right on Juan Escuita and go all the way past the next stop light and the road will dog-leg, go left then right, then Marylins is a short hop from the dog-leg.......
[b]My old favorite Casa Colorado has been reviewed poorly by RN SunDevil and DreamingEagle[/b]
In defense of the Casa, the selection of girls is just a "Hit or Miss" situation. There have been times when there were at least 2 or 3 good looking girls to choose from, and other times when the selection was just awful.
Just because someone said the selection was terrible last month, doesn't mean the same girls will be there this month. There are a lot of girls that come and go in a month's time at the Casa.
I will say that most of the time when I go there, I find about 90% of the girls to be unattractive. That's only because I'm very picky about the girl that I want. The percentage can vary in either direction, depending on the taste of each individual monger.
Zuzax out
Thanks all.
SunDevil RN,
I became a bit confused in your fifth graph of "where you want to go" because you wrote "and Marylin on Lerdo using this bus 8-A".
I think I get it now.
I know el centro (and the cathedral, mercados etc) fairly well (I think) but the areas away from there still are a problem.
And for some unknown reason, I just don't get my bearings when going south to north. East to west no problema. Of course that is probably due to having all of my sense f****d out of my head in the hour or so before.
Thanks for pointing out my mistake regarding Marylin and Lerdo. I have edited my original post to indicate that Marylin is actually on Del Ejido.
Sorry if I have caused any confusion.
There are several women that I see regularly in Casa Colorado that are gorgeous, in my humble opinion. Haven't been with any of them. But there are some gems there.
I was in Queens a short time ago. Nothing happening. I was surprised.
Bachelor,
If you are finding gorgeous women at Casa there now, DO THEM. And get names, because I have been going to CJ every 30days now,and have not found those girls.
Bachelor,
If you are finding gorgeous women at Casa now, DO THEM.
And get names, because I have been going to CJ every 30days now, and have not found those girls. Casa was my original haunt , and I go back hoping to find those lovers, but I don't.
If you can't find anyone in Queens, then I would suggest that you go to Jokers. The girls are drop dead beautiful and expensive. It's your money, mi amigo.
Sorry about the double post there. Computer glitch (aka dumb ass at the controls). You could also try Prince's Palace. Similar to Joker's, but the girls are also a bit pricey. Queens is the best bang for the buck for me.
This is my first post. I am from LA, but recently temporarily relocated to El Paso. I've been reading this forum for quite a long time and it sure has made my visits to Juarez more "pleasureable"! Thanks for all of you.
I wanted to relate something that happened to me on my last visit to Juarez a couple of nights ago.
While I am certainly new at going to this particular city, I have spent years traveling in third world countries and am very aware when I am in places in which there could be some difficulties.
I was coming out of one of the downtown "clubs" after spending a truly delightful evening with a girl who has become one of my favorites. (She works at Queens, by the way, and is not Marilu although I did spend some private time with her)
I was about a block and a half away and was approached by particularly needy beggar. I usually don't give money to street people, but somehow he seemed someone that I wanted to help. I pulled my wallet out to give him a buck. All of a sudden out of nowhere came a really big guy and he snatched the wallet right out of my hands (so much for being experienced, huh?).
He sets off at a run and I give chase. He rounds a corner at full tilt and about a block away is a police car. (Don't ask me the brand of police there, I gather there are several kinds and I am too new to know the difference) They see me chasing this guy and grab him, put him against the wall and search him. No wallet.
I suppose he must have thrown it away when he saw he was going to be caught.
So I look around the route of chase, the police do too (very helpful and polite, I might add), and just about everyone else on the street was looking too. (They were either trying to be helpful or hoping to find it and snatch it themselves.) However after much looking it was nowhere to be found. So with no money, no ID, and no credit cards I finally leave to drive back to my apartment in El Paso pissed knowing that I was never going to see any of it again and that I was not nearly as "experienced" as I thought I was.
Going through the border check, I tell the the US guy at the turnstile my tale and he says "What's going on, you're the fourth guy who has had the same problem this shift."
Normal story huh? Well, what makes it different is that about 45 minutes later, I got a call from the Mexican police on my cell phone asking me to come back to the border. I get there and unbelievably they have my wallet for me.
And what is REALLY unbelievable is that EVERYTHING was in it, INCLUDING about $300 in cash. I offered the police a reward and THEY TURNED me down!
I just wanted to relate my little "experience", I am sure that it is not normal, but it certainly was not what I expected it to be!
You were quite lucky to get your wallet back. I usually carry a roll of cash in my front pocket. That way, if I want to pay somebody, I don't have to take out my wallet, which serves only as a card carrier anyway.
I started (a while back) to carry my beer/food money, in one front pocket, taxi fare in the other, and my mongering dollars in a belt wallet. (secured pouch like thing)
That way, when I pay a cabbie, he (and anyone else around) only sees a few pesos. My beer/food money is in a money clip, which flattens it down, and I always keep a small bill on the outside.
My wallet NEVER comes out except to pay for the fun.
You were lucky indeed, and thanks for the heads up. I find my self getting a bit lax every now and then, and your experience raised my awareness level back to where it should be.
Good News indeed! Perhaps Fox's anti corruption campaign is bearing fruit. My last trip into Juarez about a month ago surprised me as the city seems to be cleaning up and the Vialidad are not out on every street corner, ticket book in hand, ready to nab you as in times past. Quite refreshing changes!
SunDevilRN - some time ago, you had a post asking about information on living in Juarez. Did you come up with anything concrete?
I wish I had time to cruise the neighborhoods and/or seek out people who could give me good info. I don't think there are many rental agents in Juarez.
Anyway, what did you come up with?
Thanks
My conclusion is that I could live in El Paso for a fairly cheap price and still go to Juarez. Granted there are cheap housing on the Mexican side of the border but El Paso is still an affordable place to live.
To me, the metropolitan El Paso/Juarez area is just one big city. An American can go back and forth between the two countries without skipping a beat. If you want to eat something late at night, you can go cross the border and catch something to eat at Sanborn's, which does not close until 1:00 am.
Also, if you want to have sex with a chick, places like Casa Colorada and Panama have girls available until 4 or 5 in the morning. Granted the bar part of the establishment is ususally closed around midnight or 1 am. So all you do is just drive down near the border bridge and walk across.
In the hospital where I work, we even take care of patients from Mexico. With a population of 80% Hispanics, El Paso is truly one of the most unique cities in the US.
I will tell you that is what I am going to do. I am sick of Miami and Illinois. maybe its me or maybe its just the closed minded pricks around me. but you may have just told me what I need to be a little happier in life closer to Mexico with lots of tang around and cheap food.
Thanks man you helped me out a lot.
I am serious.
Bubba
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Just getting back after several days away.
I'll get a name or two for some cute girls at Casa Colorado. Did anyone ever try tapping the bartender, think her name is Mabel. Sounds like Ma-Bell in Spanish. For my taste, she's too much on the chunky side, but I do think she's very cute and friendly. I wonder if she isn't the daughter of the owner though. And he's a real grouch; wouldn't want to cross him.
I've seen some great looking girls in Queens all right. It was just that the one night I was in there about a week ago it must have been an off-night because not much was going on.
[b]Did anyone ever try tapping the bartender, think her name is Mabel.[/b]
I never have, but while sipping on a Dos Equis it has crossed my mind on how she'd be upstairs.
By the way, I think her name is Maribel.
Zuzax out
There are two bartenders that I know at the Casa Colorada. One is Xochtli, the friendly girl who is somewhat chunky. She used to turn tricks at the old Pink Lady prior to becoming a bartender and her Mom is one of the condom ladies upstairs.
The other girl is Maribel. Her father in law is Juan, the thinner of the two guys guarding the door. None of them, as far as I know, is related to the owner, Ricardo.
However, the other guy guarding the door, Tomas, is Ricardo's brother. Tomas stays after the bar closes and his function is to let guys in who want to see some of the girls after the bar's closing time.
Thanks Devil. It's good to know this kind of stuff....I think. Someone told me that the waitress "X" is married to Papa Smurf. I'm not sure I believe that.
Deanna, at least that's what I think her name is, at Casa Colorado just may be the prettiest and sexiest woman I've seen in Juarez outside of Joker's. I estimate that she's between 21 and 24. It's hard to tell in high heels, but she's pretty tall for a Mexicana. I would guess about 5' 7" or 5'8". She's slim with a great figure. And she's just absolutely drop-dead gorgeous. She seems to pay better attention to how she looks than many of the others who just load up on the make-up. She wears nice clothes. I haven't been with her yet, so she could be ice-cold as far as I know. But she sure is a great piece of eye candy. Unless you absolutely have to have something special (JLo herself, a wide body, older woman, or whatever), she has to be a 9. If she's good in bed, it goes to an 11.
There's at least one other at CC, that I think is a knock-out, but I don't know her name yet. I'll report later.
If you like them a little older and wider, Laura has (what I would call, but then what do I know) a classic Mexican look. She looks exotic to me. She has a large nose, almost always has her light brown hair pulled back, wears big, loopy earrings and nice clothes. I would guess she's between 35 and 40. She used to work at the Panama. From what I remember she seems to be spreading out a little in the butt area. But you probably won't notice unless she's dancing. She's friendly enough, but she seems a little too business-oriented for my taste. I would be careful with my wallet, but I'm pretty sure she would give you a very good time.
Sundevil, amigo, one of these days we are going to have to cooperate on a venture to map out the bus routes in Juarez and publish them to the web. I have looked and looked but have yet to find anything even resembling published bus routes. Perhaps we can drag DreamingEagle into this too, since he has experience with web publishing. I am good at ferreting out information and am persistent to boot. The kind of "enlightened self interest" kind of stuff I seem to have such a talent for. :-D
BTW, the bus marked "Linea Central" will drop you off right in front of Loryed's right as it makes the turn east off of Fray Marcos de Niza to head over to the bus stop next to the Sorianna (Hipermart).
Have any of you ever gone to Juarez from El paso, tx with Caddilac man he takes many people mainly truck drivers over for $15 round trip for 2 hour minimum visit. I go but when I get there I dissapear from the group. I know my way around juarez so I am fine. but its cool they have a place to park your car safe and a guide and all. Hell parking down town is a gamble the way they steal cars there. It is nuts.
Ok later
Bubba
Big Bubba; Walk, no run away from Cadillac Man. Got a good friend doing time in federal prison because of him!
Even though you disappear from the group, you're "tagged" when you pull up in the van in front of the Panama or Pink Lady, whichever one he has ties to these days. Even though you are by yourself, the spotters make the rounds of the clubs. They see you, they notify the club owner that you are with "X" group and immediately the price of everything for you goes up. It's that way with Cadillac Man, Papa Smurf, and all the rest.
You've heard the $60 1 hour "Royal Treatment" they advertise at the uptonw massage parlors? They take you to Genesis where were you to go alone, the price would be $30-35. Get the picture?
I've never had any trouble taking my cars across into Juarez nor did I have trouble when I lived there. Even down in the zona in front of the bars. Having your own ride, you're not tied to a bucnh of drunk truck drivers who at times can be real assholes!
I agree but there are many men that first off dont even knw where to croos and don't even speak spanish and dont even know where the cat houses are. I am just trying to be helpful to the newer crossers heck my first time in I had to take a taxi to the cat house because I had no clue where they were now I walk straight to the door. With a smile on my face. and I only pay $50 including room for a full hour and I make it very clear full hour with no crack heads knocking on door. And they respect that and I throw the girl a $10 or $20 tip if she does me good.
Guys make sure you wear a coat cuz the diseases are rampade in town. also don't be a full and go with a lot of money go with like $150 and keep a little in each pocket in case your robbed remember Mexico is not like the US where its safer its very corrupt.
Just be safe and use common sense guys and what ever you do dont take a gun with you if you get caught with a gun in Mexico They lock you up quick very bad scene there.
Just be nice and happy and screw the hell out of the ladies guys.
Bubba
It's a needed service I guess for first timers or those that have no way to get there other than with the shuttles.
I remember years ago when I first went ot Juarez, there was an old Mexican with a station wagon, Joe Bananas, who hung out at the Chevron T/S at exit 24. He'd take you over there to Ginny's (Virginia's) back when the old woman was alive for $5.00 round trip and there was no upselling when you got to the bar. $20.00 pussy and absolutely no hassles from anybody. They genuinely appreciated your business back then.
How times change!
I went to Ajuua's restuarant the other night. It's on the trolley route and I figured it was a tourist trap, but what the hell? Looked OK on the outside. Well, I was suprised and impressed! Good food, good mariachis, and I never felt hurried even though other people were waiting for tables. Only about $20, with the tip.
Can I get some walking directions off the Santa fe Bridge. If my memory serves, this is the best bridge for parking etc.
I know as you cross over the border, you are on Avenida Juarez, the main tourist street. I sort of remember walking one or two blocks past the cabbies and then turning right but I don't remember the name of that street or any landmarks. I could be blurring everything with TJ so if there is anyone out there who can guide a dedicated pedestrian to Casa Colorado and Queens and even a good walking tour loop, I'd appreciate your help.
Thanks Sun Devil for the recommendation of the Hotel Santa fe near Casa Colorado, I'll definitely be giving it a stay.
From the Sante Fe bridge. Go south maybe two blocks. Turn right on Martinez. Casa Colorado is straight ahead on the left maybe three blocks or so. It has a sign reading Sans Souci.
For Queens, If you turn right after the gym on Martinez , which you would have passed going to Casa, you should be on Mariscal. You would then walk past Ano Nuevo, and Las Vegas. At the intersection that has Las Vegas and Hollywood, veer off to the left and Queens will be in front of you on the northwest corner. Have Fun!
Special thanks to Rear Window for excellent directions and constantly valuable insights!
Are there any worthwhile Masaje places within walking distance of the Santa Fe Bridge as well? I am an devout pedestrian tourist and do plan some serious walking while in Juarez, hopefully always remaining within a few blocks of Avenida Juarez or one of the other major streets.
As Zuzax so properly noted earlier (thanks also to Zuzax), the professionals in these places often change so even marginal places are worth a beer or at least sticking your head in from time to time. So if there are some of those lesser clubs, masajes, or other types of place I am ignorant of where one might want to check out in the quest for having thier pipe cleaned, I'd appreciate those directions as well!
I think Rear Window has laid out my path for the first few hours though very nicely!
ogman,
RearWindow is a cool dude but his mental map may be a bit insane. He is right about Calle Martinez but it is more than 2 blocks into Mexico. How many, I dont know, I never counted. But usually when I give direction to the zona I advise to go south on Avenida Juarez staying on the right hand (west). Go to the Plaza Mariachi and buy some smokes for chicas. They use this as an ice breaker. You will know you are there when you see an open area and a statue of 2 boys washing a horse. After buying some smokes head into the plaza to Calle Mariscal. You will be in pissing distance of Faustos, Las Vegas and Hollywood. Queens will be one block further and you can't miss it because it is bigger than shit.
If you prefer to go to the Casa Colorada first exit the plaza and cross the street and head left. You will pass the Noche Y Dia and then Irma's bar by the burrito stands. Keep going and you will then see Eduardo's on the other side of the street and the Año Nuevo right there on the corner. This is calle Martinez. Take a right and head straight to the Casa Colorada.
I suggest you skip the Casa and head to the Panama Club which will then need to take a left at the Gymnasium on your way to the Casa. Ignore all beggars and tour guides. Have fun and wrap it up.
Oh by the way. Forget about going to the famous Noa Noa nightclub. It burned down today.
And another thing, will my excellent fucking directions earn me a Senior membership?
[blue]Hi,
To be considered for Senior Member Status, you need to follow the Senior Member upgrade procedures and post your request in the "Request Senior Membership" topic of the "Site Administration" section of the Forum.
I would anticipate that you would easily qualify for Senior Membership, but you need to follow the procedure and place your request in the queue for consideration.
You can read more about the Senior Membership requirements and the upgrade procedure by selecting the "Senior Membership" link in the Forum's left side menu.
Thanks,
Jackson[/blue]
Here is a map.
Dreaming Eagle:
I noticed your posts about the travel agency idea in the 2002 postings. Did you ever begin the $49.99 tour? I visit your website regularly and have found it very valuable. I'll be doing all my Juarez dining at the places you mention. I am using my personal e-mail on on WSG now so feel free to contact me there as well.
ogman
PS: Mugroso, I thought senior member had to do with size of your member than your membership size ;-)! Actually Jackson responding to you personally is a high honor. The person is a legend in my eyes! Thanks for your excellent directions as well.
Ogman,
PS: Mugroso, I thought senior member had to do with size of your member than your membership size ;-)! Actually Jackson responding to you personally is a high honor.
Well if it all depends on the size of my member, forget it, I will never be a senior member. I made my comment in jest and was surprised to see the response from the man himself. I must thank him. Thank you Jackson. I have not requested senior membership yet as I am a big fat procrastinator.
I went to Nogales this weekend. I think I fucked someones woman while I was there. I believe I have seen her picture postee somewhere on the net. I will provide a full report in the Nogales section as soon as I get my thoughts down. I just hope I don't babble and turn it into something long winded.
My the way. Did someone keep my Marilu company in my abscence this weekend?
I went to the Sans Souci/Casa Colorada on Saturday night and the selection was just as bad as it was last month. It seems that all the petite, good looking ones that came out around Christmas time, have all gone back into hiding.
Around 95% of the girls working there were the same ones that were there last month. I saw 2 new faces, but they weren't anything special.
For all you Lety/Letty fans, neither one was working.
For Dreaming Eagle, Celeste is still there waiting for you.
Adios amigos,
Zuzax
No, Ogman, I did have that idea and might do it one day if anything every happens to my full-time job. For now, though, I'm too busy working on the site. The revenue comes from advertisers, and I think I'll keep going in that direction. There are plans to put the guide in book form this year, however, and to sell the book in the City Market. It will also be available in Spanish within the next couple of weeks. Everytime I think I am through with that project, some new opportunity arises that gets me reinvolved with it. If you are referring to the Men's Guide, that project is on hold indefinitely.
For those of you who have not been to Marilyn lately, there are a couple of absolute dolls working there now, girl next door types, nicely dressed, and very amable in the rooms.
Dear Colleagues,
I did a search (DreamingEagle: your postings are very informative), looked through countless postings and tried to put together a punch list for three days in Juarez (March 2004), but can someone recommend, within walking distance from the border:
1) a nice hotel that is guest friendly
2) FS bars/clubs
3) MPs
4) Any US or Canadian-style escorts (independent or agency)
5) Any Greek providers
I've been to NL Boys' Town several times, and I always enjoy the outcall providers in Montreal, but I have never been to Juarez.
As we all know, in NLBT, everything is centralized, and in Montreal, the women come to you (after reading numerous highly-detailed reviews from other mongers and scheduling with the hottest ladies).
I don't speak or understand Spanish very well, I won't have a car, I don't think that I can navigate the busses, although I like to walk and do not mind taking taxis. I must sound like a real pussy.
I apoligize for asking for personal tour advise, although I would be grateful for any suggestions and will post a full report when I return.
If anyone ever wants info about Montreal, I would be happy to help.
Thanks,
Jiggitai
Zuzax:
I gather that all the good looking Sans Souci girls worked really hard for their Christmas pay and have all gone on vacations. This type of vocation is not psychologically enticing.
You'll probably see them back around summer time and the cycle will repeat itself. Until then I suggest that you go to the Pink Lady's or the massage parlors.
Just be forewarned, the condom lady at the Pink Lady's will examine your penis for sores. I have never seen anything like it. She will grab a piece of toilet paper, lay your dick on it, and then peruse it like some scientist. She will also demand $5.00 for this and I don't know whether she knows what she is doing.
If you go via taxi to any of these places, expect to pay premium dollars, as these places will have to pay the cab drivers' commissions. Is it any wonder that all the cabbies working around the first couple of blocks from the border bridges recommend on going to the Pink Lady's or Genesis.
It's better to walk or take the bus.
Greetings all.
Just back from some other mongering away from Mexico, but back to Juarez next weekend.
I just looked at the map from below, and I realize I was WAY short on distances there . I just don't remember that many calles on the right side ( past the Kentucky Bar , etc) Sorry! My feet manage to detach themselves from my mind, I guess.
A mongering buddy went to Club Panama last week, and said it was totally dead, only four gordas, but he did say that Queens has some new talent. So I know where my drink money will be lost, anyway.
Pink Lady is good but if you want quality you have to go to Jokers number 1 or 2. They are both hiden oasis. The quality of women are like being in Brazil or Costa Rica they are from all over the place. I do not understand why there are in Juarez but they are. If you can afford the extra cash I recommend Jokers you will not want to go back to Pink lady. Ask any of the taxi drivers they know where they are.
I know the drinks for the customers cost $4 a piece at the Joker. How much are the cost for the girl's drinks and the cost for FS?
I met a girl at the Joker who used to work at Roma. I couldn't believe she recognized and remembered me. Like what others have said, Latin women have awesome memories.
Well anyway her fee was $30 for an hour of massage and sex at Roma. I wonder how much it would cost me to take her out from the Joker as well as her fee for sex now that she works at the place. She still has the same face and pussy. Perhaps her sexual technique is better to warrant the increase in price.
By the way, which Joker is the one on the corner of Insurgente and Lopez Mateos, 1 or 2? Where exactly is the other one? Also, are these places open during daytime hours. From what I have gathered, I believe they are open only at night.
Sun Devil, Dreaming Eagle, Folks,
Has been a lurker here for long and never thought I would be lucky enough to make a trip to Juarez as I am from eastcoast. It looks like reasons for a 1-2 day trip to Juarez is forthcoming and would like to make use of the time. Plan to stay at Villa Manport from the reviews of Dreaming Eagle and would like to visit some of the better clubs/MPs in little time. I do not know Spanish at all and I guess would prefer taxi/ walk rather than take the buses this one time. Wouldn't want to pay the premiums for going in a cab either. Can folks here help me out with some known landmarks for the good clubs/ MPs ( which I can tell the cabbies instead of the club names themselves), so that I am not exploited in the run..
Thanks for your help.
Neomagic:
Here are some landmarks/street names that you can use to tell the cab drivers:
1) Pink Lady - the corner of Altamirano and Joaquin Terraza. You can't miss it from this location.
2) Masaje Genesis - corner of Vincente Guerrero and Montes de Oca. Go north from the corner to get to this place. Look on the left side of Montes de Oca.
3) Panama and Sans Souci - the gymnasium in el centro or the corner of Martinez and Delgollado. Sans Souci is a two story red building on Martinez, hence the sobriquet Casa Colorada, while Panama is a single story glass building on Delgollado.
4) Masajes Sirena and El Encanto - not necessary since you can visually see them from your hotel
5) Masaje Marylin - say the address "2900 Del Ejido" to the cab driver, but I have found that cab drivers have a hard time finding this place since it is so far from the beaten path and the buidling is non-descript. The main cross streets to this place are Montes de Oca and Del Ejido.
6) Masaje Venus - Montana Steak House just north of the corner of Hermanos Escobar and Avenida de Lincoln. It is in the parking lot behind the Scotia Bank, which is adjacent to the steak house, and on the ground level.
The word for corner in Spanish is "esquina".
Also, if you decide to go to Marylin, say to the cab driver, who may be aware that the place is a massage parlor, not to wait for you when you go inside Marylin. Ask Sergio, the owner, who is fluent in English, to get you a cab when you want to leave the place.
Additionally, while at these places, don't ever mention that you took a cab to get there but had walked instead and don't let the cab driver walk in with you.
I hope this help you save some money.
The traffic seemed pretty doggone busy on Friday night, but Casa Colorado was dead anyway. Celeste was the only sharp looking one there. Laura, who I usually like to look at, had dressed herself up in a schoolgirl type outfit with huge pigtails that I'm sure were not her real hair. It looked ridiculous to me, but for some I'm sure it would be an effective lure. More guys than gals I thought.
Queens was busy though. Marilu (sp?), Yvonne, and one other hot number were on stage at the same time. That's an awful lot of eye candy at one time!
I didn't drop in anywhere else because I was short on time.
Something else interesting happened though. From time to time, you might run into a real hard case. By that I mean you think you've found the right girl with the right body, so you treat her right. Drinks, tips, etc only she doesn't reciprocate. Robot sex, if much of anything, and in a big hurry for you to finish. When that happens, I'm thinking, "OK sweetie, but you're really screwing up because - someday - you're going to want my help." And practically every chica I've talked to in Juarez has problems at some time or other. Boyfriend, ex-husband, dinero, whatever. Most of the time it's a boyfriend who gets them knocked up, never to return. So, last night I run into a gal that did me that way. She was working the street and I thought that's unusual because I always see her in one of the clubs. (Because of what I read here, I'm not interested in the street chicas.) I could see that she was crying. I asked what was wrong. She had no money, the club owner who she thought was practically like a father to her wouldn't even give her a beer because she couldn't pay for it, and there was something going on with her kids and El Paso. I couldn't quite make out that last part with all the blubbering. I could have bought her a beer, but I thought of the time she was downright hateful to me and figured screw it. I was nice about it, but no dinero from me that night. I'll probably change my mind the next time I see her because I'm just soft that way. Anyway, my point is that if some gal promises you a great time and doesn't deliver, try not to get mad. If she doesn't already have major problems, she probably will before too long. So she's just being stupid by burning a bridge with someone who's sincerely interested in more than just using her body for 40 minutes. (It will be interesting to see if any of you guys respond to what I've written here. It turned out to be more of a book that I thought it would.)
> providers have told me that they see themselves as providing a
> needed service to men who cannot have access to wives or
> girlfriends sexually because their wives/girlfriends are visiting
> out-of-town relatives, pregnant, or on the rag.
> it is only through our puritan culture that makes us
> self-conscious when we go see these girls.
call me puritan, but those three reasons are pretty poor excuses for seeing a prostitute. in cases like that, the guy would be better off getting a separation, so that prostitution is not tied up with infidelity. this is probably one of the reasons it has such a stigma.
prostitution as a needed service is more for guys down on their luck with women, who unfortunately can be extremely picky. the sleaze element can be removed somewhat to make it more acceptable, as in amtersdam where prositution adds a new dimension to "window shopping". but i doubt this would ever happen in america, unless all the mainstream religions are rocked by scandals as with the current catholic **** priest situation.
but "thank god" we live near mexico :) prositution in juarez sure is sleazy in el centro, but some of the mp's make it quite presentable (e.g., venus, romas, and sirenas). of course, the bar scene isn't necessarily sleazy. for example, papagayos in nuevo laredo is quite presentable in stark contrast to boys town itself there. but the juarez scene probably won't improve in the near term. maybe if more bars move near the pink lady, there can be an alternative red light section without all the sleaze near the gymnasium. but the convenience factor of el centro plays in its favor, which is why i still go there rather than just sticking with the mp's.
> RearWindow wrote:
> You could also try Prince's Palace. Similar to Joker's, but the
> girls are also a bit pricey.
So where is the Prince's Palace? I would like to check it out for a change of pace. There's a lot of nice eye candy at Joker's, making ity a good place to relax before heading to El Centro for the more affordable action. Unfortunately, Joker's is a bit out of the way, being near the intersection of Paseo de la Victoria and Ave. M. Gomez Morin (i.e., A. de la Raza past A. Technologia). Amadeus is also inconviently located, being on A. Ejercito Nacional past Technologia.
> Sun Devil wrote
> By the way, which Joker is the one on the corner of Insurgente > and Lopez Mateos, 1 or 2?
Is that the right intersection? I don't recall seeing any clubs in that area, but that sure is more convenient than the location mentioned above (which is about 2-3 miles east of Lopez Mateos heading out on A. de la Raza).
Sun Devil,
Thanks for your quick and amazing response. Really appreciate your effort and willingness to help.
On a similar note, now that I have quite a list and accessible addresses for these clubs, which 3 would you narrow down to, if you had to in terms of quality of gals and accessibilty from Villa Manport.
I would recommend, due to convenience and location from the Villa Manport hotel, Sirena (across the street), El Encanto (a block away) and Venus (less than 2 miles).
You could walk to all 3 places if you want to.
Crespo:
That intersection is correct. This building has a big sign saying Joker in top of it but it is only open at night. It is on the west side of Lopez Mateos and it is fairly large. You can't miss it.
Also, this is another place that asked me for my driver's license in order to verify my age. So if you can't prove that you are 18 or older, they will not let you in.
By the way, from your report, I was able to glean the locations of the other Joker as well as Amadeus. Thanks.
Crespo,
I thought the Princes Palace was on Panama going north from Escobar, and on the right, but it was always at night, and always with a maniac cabbie...so I am probably wrong! I'll be back this coming Saturday, so I'll get the actual location.
[quote]I thought the Princes Palace was on Panama going north from Escobar, and on the right, but it was always at night, and always with a maniac cabbie...so I am probably wrong! I'll be back this coming Saturday, so I'll get the actual location. [/quote]
Actually it's on Bolivia, just north of 16 de Septembre.
In my opinion, it's a dump...expensive, noisy(very loud music ala Queens), and the girls are not cute.
I have been in El Paso for a while now and have met a wonderful girl. This post is not about her, but rather to tell those who might be interested in a very good place to take someone.
This is not for bargain hunters, but rather for those who would like to take a girl to a really nice place to stay. A few weeks ago,after I met my friend, we were looking for a new hotel and I do not like to stay in sleazy places. Often we go to the Hilton or to the Radisson, but we were in the mood for somewhere different. A taxi driver that I have befriended suggested that we try a place called La Siesta. I can't remember the street but it is just across from the abandoned world globe that looks as if it was out of an old world's fair. I am sure that those familiar with Juarez can fill in the street.
From the street, La Siesta looks as if it was a factory. A single story set of buildings with what looks like a guard gate complete with raising car barriers. It was not a bad looking buiding, but sure as heck did not look like a hotel. I was sure that it was going to be less than pleasing.
Once past the car barriers there is sort of a U shape of buildings with what appear to be apartments each having a garage with a garage door. As you drive in the place and look in each open garage there is a description of the room type: suite with jacuzzi, suite without jacuzzi and master suites with a jacuzzi. The range of prices is between 580 and 880 pesos. The way the place works is that if the garage door is open the room is available, if half closed it is being cleaned and if closed all the way, the room is occupied.
Ok, so we were there and said what the heck, we'll take a look at the best room they have - 880 pesos. We went in to take a look and I was literally blown away! It was not what I expected AT ALL!! This was a huge, modern suite that could fit maybe 15-20 people for a party. In the center was a modern circular bar with multiple TV's, stereo, etc. The room had beautifullly framed mirrors and in one section had a marble, raised jacuzzi. On the other end of the room was a king sized bed with a modern bedspread and there was a marble fireplace (fake) fireplace as well. There was a dressing area with an large bath/shower room attached. The bath even had a bidet! This is ONE class place!! Unbelievably clean and well decorated with 24 hour room service.
The rooms of this place would rival or surpass the upscale suites that you would find in a luxury hotel in a good sized US city.
It is obvious that the purpose of this place is for "very private, intimate liasons" but it must be for "upclass" affairs.
In any event, if there are those of you who like class and have a "classy" lady...you will not be disappointed. NOT LIKE ANYTHING else I've seen in Juarez that is for sure. If there are others who know of similiar places, I would love to hear about them. I go to Juarez to see my friend every day and every night. (I guess you could say I like her, huh?)
Sun Devil,
Thanks again for your advice.
If I were to look for the quality with convenience taking a second seat , would you still recommend these three ?? Have a real liking for cute / petite ones and that's what am looking for...!!!
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I would recommend, due to convenience and location from the Villa Manport hotel, Sirena (across the street), El Encanto (a block away) and Venus (less than 2 miles).
You could walk to all 3 places if you want to.
Sun Devil/ Dreaming Eagle ,
Would any of you know how far the US Consulate in Ciudad Juarez is from Hotel Villa Manport?
Also, if it's far away, are there places close to US Consulate which you would suggest?
I was at the La Siesta once before a long time ago. I really liked it, but had forgotten the name. So I was really, really glad to see the post from Lucky Chuck. Two things that I remember are that the bathroom and area around the jacuzzi are all tiled. With the water that's around, it would be really easy for you or your girl to slip and bust your butt. Not a happy occurence. The other thing was that the jacuzzi took forever to fill up. Minor problems I guess. It was really nice.
Okay guys. I'm going to be in El Paso tomorrow and plan on making a trip over the border. Anyone want to hook up for a drink, let me know. I can be reached at 915-872-1994. Leave a number despite the fact that the person may claim to not know me.
[QUOTE]Would any of you know how far the US Consulate in Ciudad Juarez is from Hotel Villa Manport?
Also, if it's far away, are there places close to US Consulate which you would suggest?
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The consulate is on Lopez Mateos, if you take Hermanos Escobar from the Villa Manport straight to Lopez M, turn right, as Lopez M is a one way street, you are there. About a 3 or 4 minute ride.
There are several hotels across the street from the consul, but are always pretty full, and more costly than the VMP. VMP is not far at all, but not walking distance either.
Bachelor Warrier,
You are right the shower area is tiled and the area around the jacuzzi can be slippery (I think the jacuzzi area is marble) And, right again, the jacuzzi being very large does take a while to fill up. (just make love first while it is filling!)
I stayed there with my girl again last night. Matter of fact, I just came back from spending the night with her. We decided that even though the "Large Honeymoon Suite" -880 pesos is impressive that we like the suites with jacuzzi - 550 pesos better.
I brought back the address for anyone that might be interested:
Motel La Siesta
Av. San Lorenzo No. 195
CD. Juarez,Chih. Mex
Tels: 17-09-98, 18-26-86
Neomagic:
If you want quality over convenience, I would recommend Venus, Pink Lady, and El Encanto. However, you have the understand that our taste in women could be different.
Venus has European looking women with light skin and light hair. It is also in a nicer part of town with nice restaurants around it.
The Pink Lady has an equal amount of dogs and good looking women, depending on the night. Also, if you look like a louder club-like atmoshphere with a juke box and a pool table, this is the place to go.
El Encanto tend to have women that have the mestiza look, with black hair and darker skin.
Bachelor Warrior,
I hope that girl isn't some one I know. You have raised an interesting question. Me, I am a bleeding heart, and probably would have taken her for a beer and some food somewhere, just to put my own mind at ease. ( that is not a comment on what/if anything you might have done, it's only about me). Of course, that means I probably will end up doing that for everyone in Juarez....ay yi yi.
I have been fairly lucky with the girls there, only one (well, two) became a headache because of their attitude with me. But I try to treat them all with respect, and am genuinely interested in the ones I am comfortable with. So they seem to reciprocate , ie attention en la cama and out.
I may be naive about this next point, but here goes. Whenever my mongering buddy is in Juarez without me, he tells me he gets countless questions from mis amigas at the bars asking (where is "your friend"?). They all seem to be happy to see me, or are they happy to see my money, and to sit/lay down with a guy who isn't a total jerk to them? I hope for more of the former, but it's probably a combination of the two.
To be honest, I'm not sure that the bar girls even recognize when anyone is sincerely interested in THEM. Ain't talking 'bout love...just genuine concern. Boy, thanks for bringing THAT subject up.
Lucky Chuck,
Ok, that definitely must be the same place. And thanks for posting that address. I was trying to find it on my own and my first efforts weren't successful.
RW,
Thanks for your insights. I think you're probably right that it's a combination of the two. In different amounts, depending on the chica and other tihings.
I also think the bar girls probably get treated very well in almost all cases. At least by the customers. Maybe not by the boy friends. But still, they have to notice when someone is genuinely interested in them and how they're doing. I'm sure there are exceptions, but they would have to be inhuman not to be aware of some differences.
The brand-new girls seem really, really sweet when they first come into the bar, but after a while they get colder. At least it seems that way to me. I like some of the "older" ones in their 30s and even early 40s, but they are usually much more detached and business-like. Their line of work must be tough psychologically.
Someone, please - directions to the La Siesta Motel.
Thank you.
EPG
This little story took place in El Paso, so maybe it should be posted in that section. But, I think it sheds a little light on the latina mindset, so I'll try posting it here. Besides, not much seems to be happening in the El Paso section.
There I was, having a post-lap dance conversation with a bi-lingual chica who was probably in her mid to late 30s. I don't know how we got on the subject, but all of a sudden I'm listening to her tell me that it's really kind of a joke among latinas that white guys can't fuck {very well}. Those are her words. So, being a brilliant conversationalist, I said, oh really? She said, yeah, but I have to tell you that this one time I had the best fuck I've ever had from a white guy. Again, holding up my end of the dialogue, I said, no kidding?! She said, absolutely, this guy was the greatest. I told all my friends, you have got to let this guy fuck you!
Now, I can understand guys telling one another that man, you've got to run over to Queens, or Pink Lady,or whatever and fuck so-and-so. But I always thought that if a woman found someone who really rang her bell, that she would claw out any other gal's eyeballs who got within 5 miles of her man. Maybe this is not the case with latinas. Interesting.
Masaje Venus,
My favorite place followed by El Encanto. The quality is awesome. Check a girl named Alejandra, if not there go with Jesica. Can't go wrong anyway.
Any of you guys remember a tall girl that worked at El Encanto. Very tall and dark colored skin. She was maybe about 24-26 yoa. If someone remembers her and knows if she is still working there please let me know. She is one of the best I've ever had in the Masaje scene. Please post her name.
Thanks,
JD
I have never tried those girls at Venus, only Laura, Gabby and Daisy. Do they work during the day or night shift?
As for the girl at Encanto, maybe you are talking about Karina. I don't know what you mean by tall because tall to me is 5'9 or taller. Karina is about 5'6.
[b]it's really kind of a joke among latinas that white guys can't fuck {very well}.[/b]
Now look what you've done. You've given me a complex.
I thought I was doing so well with the chicas. Apparently that's not the case.
So does anybody have any tips on how the latina women want it? Maybe I should go and rent a mexican porno flick.
I feel so bad.
Zuzax out
Yes , thanks so much BW. Anybody know where I can find some white chicks who don't care?
Actually, I was in CJ this past 4 days, and unexpectedly met up with a girl whom I had met at Casa Colorado 6 months ago,and have run into randomly since then. She loves sex (told to me in her own bad english). We have had a few interesting times together, but our last nite ( monday) was porn star hot. She wanted to be taken from behind really hard, and the room had a mirror in front of the bed. She wanted to watch us, (well actually herself .... they do love mirrors). She got herself up to number two with a bullet on my GFE list very quickly. Maybe it was me (lol) , maybe the mirror, or maybe I just lucked out and got her on horny nite, but it was, as she said, " muy rico".
Zuzax,
Actually I have been told the opposite. Chicas have told me that Americans are better because we are not "macho". Mexican men are quick on the trigger and not very attentive to a womans needs. The only thing lacking in sex with Americans is the language. Sweet things are better said in Spanish and when a gringo tries it just isn't the same.
RearWindow
So did you get to have a little taste of Marilu at Queens. You said this chica at the Casa was number 2. So who is number 1?
The Filthy one
Mugroso,
I have not yet tasted the fruit that is Marilu. Everytime I am there I get distracted by some other young thing, and Marilu is already with someone.
Both are girls I met at Casa, and the Number One was the wild haired Letti (or Leti). I also have hit upon a theory that seems to be infallable. If a girl laughs like she is crazy (ie Marilu, or my Letti, and my Number Two), they are nuts in bed as well. It's been perfect everytime so far as a predictor.
RearWindow,
That is a very interesting observation. I have never gotten much laughter out of MariLu but I have had excellent performance. I will have to be more observant of laughing chicas next time I go down. Living on the border is great, we have the convenience of being so close to the things we don't have here but on the flip side the pay sucks and bills have gotten the best of me these last few months. I just can't go down like I used to. But I expect recovery in a couple months.
Sorry about that last post if anyone took the bit about white guys not pleasuring latinas seriously. I was just trying to sound you guys out about whether latinas like to share. Like Mugroso, I have had many, many girls in Juarez tell me that they prefer Americans for the same reasons he gave.
Along these same lines of "insight" into the culture (?), here's another story. I'm talking to Rosie in a Juarez bar quite a while back. She asks me if that girl over there is a friend of mine. (I don't remember why she did that because I was definitely interested in and concentrating on her - Rosie.) I say yes, I try to be friendly with all the girls. Then she says, well, how come you haven't fucked her then? It wasn't as though she was mad at me for looking at someone else. She was very matter-of-fact....why haven't you fucked her? What came across to me is, that if you're friends with a girl, you have obviously fucked each other.
Oh well, back to Queens. A couple of weeks ago I took Yvonne to the room. (I keep trying to catch Marilu, but she wasn't working that night.) She is very slim, very attractive, and in her early 20s. She was not attentive at all in the bar. She kept looking around. Maybe that should have been a clue. In the room, it was like she was watching TV, on another planet! I've never had that happen before. But the most interesting thing is that with three fingers in her, I couldn't feel a thing once I got past the "door" ! It's as though the poor woman is hollow! Maybe she had an operation or something and they cleaned everything out. I figured, hell, if the sides want it, they're just going to have to come and get it. I left before my time was up. Another first. I definitely do not recommend Yvonne at Queens. But, then, your mileage may vary.
Bachelor Warrior,
I am deeply saddened to hear you took Yvonne to the room. Even if you had a good time I would be just as sad.
A little background. Back in 1998 I took this chica once to a hotel. Her name was Jasmine from Torreon. She worked at Queens. A couple weeks later I went back and said hi to her. Well she popped her lid and said her name was Yvonne, not Jasimine. Ooooops, sorry my mistake. Well I had never seen Yvonne before this and ever since she has had it out for me. To this day I still get nasty looks from her.
Thats not all. A long time non monger friend was dating her and for a period of time lived with her. I have spent countless hours listening to my friend whine about her and spent hours telling him to dump her. He wanted me to keep and eye out and report to him anything he should know. In a way I applaud her for being so convincing, but again if a person prefers to be a fool, well then?
As for her cavernous pussy, I used to run around with a chica from Queens named Laura. (Queens is my favorite novia garden) She used to work there from 1998 to about 2000-01. She had a similar pussy. She at least put on that she liked it. She was very petite and very morena. My favorite flavor of Mexicana.
Holy shit, am I starting to babble? Well let me end this post here. Oh one last thing. Who here has actually fucked MariLu, please raise your hand.
The Filthy one
I think (well, in fact i KNOW, at least in my experiences) that they don't like to share. And sharing can even mean stealing a glance at someone else. I have sat and talked with some girls (most notably my Number Two) and just innocently looked around the bar (just to change my view) and I start getting the "what are you thinking about...do you want to sit with someone else...you like her, don't you"...etc etc. And when i re-affirm that I am happy to sit with her, then she generally gets as physically close as she can, kinda like marking the territory. And that territory is most likely the size of that wallet I am carrying. Man , I'm getting cynical...
That's interesting about Yvonne at Queens. I haven't seen anything flattering written about her, but I had a good time, before, during and after sex. Maybe I caught her on her only good nite.
I'll raise my hand to Mugroso's question 'Who's had Marilu?'. She's definitely one of my favorites, but either she's always busy or doesn't work too much, because more often than not she's not there when I check (and that's always my first check).
I've also gone with Yvonne one time, and found her pleasant. Nice bod, and physically active. I'd do it again.
Juarez Defender posted about Alejandra at Venus. Have you seen her lately? My last few times there I've been disappointed that she wasn't around.
Here's a recomendation: Perla at Alice & Charly's. OK, the place is a bit pricey, but she's quite an experience.
Strictly as a public service question, does anyone know of a cd /artist that las latinas just melt to ? I find Enrique Iglesias to be quite suave, as well as Christian Castro,and I would assume that they like modern (american) rock , but the bar music is about two decades behind. And ranchero drives me nuts after about 2 minutes. Please help my ears.
Mugroso...not me. YET.
I am going to be in the red zone in mid April. My taste is for the younger girls(18, 19 or 20). Does any particular bar tend to attract the younger women?
At the same time do the younger girls tend to be the crack *****s?
Which bars should be avoided for the blatent drug use?
OB1
Here are some CDs and artists that I would recommend:
Un Dia Normal by Juanes
Revolucion De Amor by Mana
Corazon Latino by David Bisbal
Almas Del Silencio by Ricky Martin
No Es Lo Mismo by Alejandro Sanz
Anything by Luis Miguel, Marc Anthony and Chayanne.
The thing about Latin music is that most songs are about love, jealousy, longing, and other subject matters that chicks are really into. Thus, there are a plethora of different CDs that you can buy that can get them into a romantic mood. I guess that is why Latin women are so fun to be with.
Also, I have known some Latin women who love the the voice and songs of Barry White, so don't discount him as an artist even though he did not sing in Spanish.
Thank you Sun Devil. I will check some of those cd's out. I also will check out La Siesta (thanks BW and Lucky Chuck) as my Number Two has a birthday coming up in April( hence my music question) , and that sounds like a great place to celebrate.
And in all seriousness, this forum is the greatest , thanks to all of you fellow mongers (and Jackson) . Gentlemen all.
Well, excepting Mugroso. ;)
You missed the most important one Sun Devil. Marco Antonio Solis and Los Bukis These Mexican women cream thier panties over Solis. Los Bukis is the Solis Brothers and most of their albums feature Marco Antonio.
Concerning the young girls ob1knob. Club Laura's comes to mind. Some of them there are younger than what you want to be messing with though and it ties into your question about places to avoid because of drugs. Club Laura's again.
you kind find anything you want in this club. The owner, Chito has refined the phrase "better living through pharmaceuticals" to a high science.
Maybe I'm naive, blind, dumb plus a host of other adjectives - but I'm really confused about Chito and Laura's. About 1 1/2 years ago, I patronized a number of gals there and ended up taking one away - I now see her weekly in her home and perhaps twice a week at times.
I visited Laura's usually on a Sat. afternoon and NEVER saw any glimpse of drugs or gals that appeared to be strung out. I've had a number of conversations with Chito and he seemed to be more interested in taking care of his apts. across the street than anything else. Yes, I know the "sister" routine quiet well. But I even questioned my girlfriend quite a lot about drugs - about her possibly being on drugs, about Chito, about Laura's in general and drugs. I did not see it as a hotbed of drugs. I even got to know several of the other gals there a little over a period of 4-5 months.
Is all this drug action taking place other than Sat. afternoon, or am I blind? I don't really care because I don't visit there any more. But I keep hearing all these stories.
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The most disturbing thing I saw was some drunk gringo who was arguing with Chito about being cheated out of some nice pussy, etc., etc., etc. I believe he was staying in one of the apts. But he made a complete ass out of himself and Chito handled it very well.
I don't really give a rat's ass about the goings on at Laura's nowdays - but I'm just trying to determine if I'm that blind or stupid. (I raised six teenage step-children and went through basic training like no one else on the drugs, pregnancy, stealing my car, sneaking out the bedroom window at night routine, etc., etc. - I thought that opened my eyes to be alert for sneaky things).
Anyway .... Have fun everyone.
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How could have I forgotten "El Buki Mayor"! Thanks Border Jumper for reminding me. Definitely an artist with a romantic streak in him.
EPG...You're not blind or naive or anything. If you're not looking for it you'll never know it is available.
Chito has many faces. It's pretty much common knowledge the goings on in there, He knows who wants what etc. A man goes in and puts his finger to the side of his nose and Chito knows exactly what his kick is.
He's a strange guy. I've known him for years and can take him or leave him
i have known chito from lauras for several years, i even know where he lives.
he is a hustler, anything for money.
he allows young girls, and girls without id, to work outside his place, girls that would other wise have to streetwalk and use the fleabag hotels, or be at the mercy of those who pick them up. of course he makes big money allowing them to use his rooms.
he is fairly strict not allowing **** girls inside, but you will find them there.
yes, drugs are quite common there, but they are everywhere in that area.
i have had many girls there ask me for $5 or $10 for [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord131][CodeWord131][/url] or milk for the baby, but i know they just want a quick fix.
when in juarez i always stop by lauras and visit chito, drink a couple dos equis, check for new meat, then move on.
This kid is going down tonight. I don't have much cash but I sure do need to get out of the house. So, I am just gonna make the rounds have a soda or two and see whats new.
Just a little thought. Maybe with in the next 2 or 3 months we can organize ourselves a little "mongerpalozza" Lets toss around some dates and ideas on where to start. Lets take into consideration our buddies that live out of town. What do y'all think? Lemme know.
The Filthy One
Hi everyone.
I have been reading your posts for a while and appreciate all of your usefull information.
Anyway I want to go to a massaje sometime soon. What are everyones favorite places and chicas. Second I need to know if any are close to the Santa Fe Bridge or one that I can take a cab to, because I dont know my way around at all. I dont mind paying alittle more because of the cab for the convienence. And last if I could get some price estimates it would be apprecited.
Thanks alot
Sowell Man
P.S. Am I correct in believing that the massaje places are open during the afternoon around 4-5 I guess. Again thanks.
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Mugroso,
A mongerpalooza is a cool idea! I will be back to Juarez april 21-26. The DR board in Sosua does that very thing, and it is a great success. Although could you imagine the looks on our girls faces, when ALL of their "novios" arrive on the same nite? Priceless! That alone would be worth the airfare for me.
Someone mentioned Perla at Alice & Charly's? Where is Alice & Charly's? I never heard of it before.
Alice & Charly's is the old Faustos. What is Faustos you may ask? Faustos is/was located on Mariscal st right next to the Plaza Mariachi. You know the little square connecting Ave. Juarez to Mariscal st. It is the place with the 2 boys washing the horse statue.
First of all I would like to thank a fellow board member for the soda he bought me at the Las Vegas Saturday night.
I did not go down to Juarez like I said in a Friday post. Instead I went Saturday night. I started way down Mariscal street at the Las Palmeras. Not much there but I did see a cute mature freelancer hustling drinks. She is on my to do list. The Montaña sucked, and a fat chick attacked me with her tounge in the Centro Lagunero. Nice kisser but I left. Michelle at the Año Nuevo is back and no longer pregnant. Irmas place suck balls as usual, I hate those waiters in there. Street beggars are less of a pain in the ass. Noche y Dia was ok but not as crowded as it usually is and my little buck toothed favorita wasn't there.
I just had to stop by Faustos (Alice and Charlys) to see this Perla mentioned in a previous post. She is a little cutie. The guy she was with said she sucked his dick for 40 bucks. Not bad. By the way. It seems there are rooms available there. This is new to me. Anyone have info on this? Perla is on my to do list as well. Then I went to Las Vegas where I started talking to this dude. The chica he was with started flirting with me and rubbed her ass all over me. Well this ain't cool as she was with him. So to scare her away I grabbed her ass then tits, didn't work. So then I went straight for the pussy and this only encouraged her more so I finger fucked her right there.
I next went to Queens Place. I didn't go in as I didn't have any "fuck MariLu" money. I tried to get the doorman to smell my finger. It seems that a guy only falls for that once.
Next payday, I'm there again dude.
The Filthy One
Mugroso,
Here's some more info on the rooms at Alice & Charly's. They have 2 rooms. The 2 rooms share a bathroom with a shower, but I don't feel too comfortable showering in a room with exposed electric wires. Room fee is $10; bar fine is $20, and the girl is whatever you negotiate with her. Perla is every bit the bedroom dynamo that Marilu is. Eat your heart out Mugroso, I had Marilu on Monday. She really worked me over on the drinks though.
Candy has disappeared from Genesis again. I was told they had all new staff and Candy wasn't there anymore. She was just there 2 weeks ago. If anyone finds out if she's working eslewhere, please post so I can visit my favorite. Since I couldn't have Candy, I went to Felina's. There were 3 cuties there and I couldn't decide, so I took 2.
Sowell Man, there's a massage place a few blocks from the bridge. Just walk down Avenida Juarez on the left side. When you see Taco Lucas on the right, turn left and there's massage place a couple doors down on the south side of the street. Price is $30, quality is hit and miss. If you browse back through earlier posts you can find plenty of info on locations and prices.
I will throw my thoughts in about Fausto's aka Alice and Charly's.
First of all it is the most expensive bar in that area. The cost of a drink $7 for the girls. If you want to buy her a can of Bud Lite it cost $13. What a fucking rip off!!! The place is usually dark as hell,even though they have a decent light system but rarely do they ever utilize the lights. I attribute the lack of lightining to the lazy, lard ass dyke dj in control of the burned out music. I used to like the song hotel Caliifornia but after listening to it at least 500 times I hate that mother. Anyway, I don't know how many times I have walked in Fausto's in a good mood and walked out wondering why the hell I went in there in the first place. I have bought many a drink for the girls and rarely have I been satisfied.
Two chicks there to avoid are Patty and Jo Anna aka Chantay. They will soak you for drinks but their sex is unsatisfactory. I have seen Perla dance and she looks great. I might give her a go the next time if she is available. There is a room adjacent to the bar where you can have a private dance or sex for $20 a song. If you want to take a girl to the hotel you have pay $20 to the bar for permission for one hour.
Saturday night seemed very dead. I mean there was plenty of car traffic, but in the bars there were very few girls. Of course, they might have all been " busy" . Or maybe the chicas were taking their own spring break.
I have a list of songs an arm long that I now hate after listening to them ad nauseum in el centro, too.
BW,LC,
I've got a question about Motel La Siesta. Does one need to reserve the room in advance, or can one just show up and secure one? I want to give Number Two a birthday to remember, so any info (before I leave 4/18) would be greatly appreciated. I guess I could call the hotel directly, but I would rather have someone else do all the work. ;) I promise I will have a cold one in your honor.
Pimelonman wrote: There is a room adjacent to the bar where you can have a private dance or sex for $20 a song.
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Sounds like Faustos is going Nogi on us. I will have to try it next time and see if I can get some action.
RearWindow,
In the several times that I have gone to La Siesta, I have just shown up. I have never had a problem getting a room, of course perhaps I am a "Lucky" Chuck!
Acually I AM a "Lucky" Chuck. I found a wonderful girl and she no longer works in the clubs. Good "Luck" to you all.
Clydesdale wrote: The 2 rooms share a bathroom with a shower, but I don't feel too comfortable showering in a room with exposed electric wires.
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Dude, when I was in Saudi Arabia for the first Gulf War our showers had bad plumbing and the water would build up on the floor. When I'd shut off the water I would get a tingley sensation all over. Needless to say I showered every 2 or 3 days.
Clydsdayle also wrote: Perla is every bit the bedroom dynamo that Marilu is.
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I am so there. I'd like to see who a sawed off version of Marilu would be like. What is her fee and will she do an all nighter after work? Damn I got a boner just thinking about it.
As for the mongerpalozza I propose we have it the weekend of the 24th of April as RearWindow will be in town. We can all meet at the Kentuky club that Saturday night and head out from there. How does anyone wishing to participate feel about this? This is just a loose plan pending your input guys. Feel free to private me.
The Filthy One
Could someone give me directions to the La Siesta Motel? I really would appreciate it. I'll be driving and near the free bridge. I've got the address somewhere but no map. Written directions would be great. Thank you.
El Filthy, count me in! I will ditch Number Two for that nite (or maybe introduce her to everyone) . Actually , she probably knows everyone already. anyway, I'm there. And kudos to you for your Gulf service.
The weekend of April 24th sounds good. Sounds like fun. The chicas would have to wonder what's up.
Where is Felina's? Another one I haven't heard of.
Thanks for the heads-up on Alyce & Charly's. As soon as you said it was the old Fausto's, I thought yeah, I've seen the new sign. I guess I figured it was there all along like the Sans Souci at Casa Colorado.
I am comming down from Colorado and will be in el Centro on on the 17th and the 24th. I realize that I am not one of the regulars that post here but I wouldn't mind meeting other mongers.
Rear,
Ditching number two around me might be dangerous, you had better bring her along, come to think of it that might also be dangerous! ;)
ob1
Mugroso says: "I am so there. I'd like to see who a sawed off version of Marilu would be like. What is her fee and will she do an all nighter after work? Damn I got a boner just thinking about it."
Perla charged me $50, then there was the drink and the bar and room fee. I didn't ask about an all nighter. Interesting idea though.
The palooza sounds good. Keep us informed.
Couple of things, first Mariana is back at Marilyns. Honestly, she has the best body of any MP girl in Juarez. Not the best lay, she kind of does the shut-down mode thing, but wow what an ass and set of legs. A girl there who gives awesome service is named Brisa. Nice tits, big ass but what a time. Worth the cost of admission.
Tried Masajes Luxxor and thought it was ok. There is a girl there named Vanessa who was cute and had a tight petite body. Standard $30 with upselling, which everyone hates, but at least you know that going in. Other girls there were ok, 5s and 6s.
Disappointed that Candy isn't at Genesis. The new girls there don't stack up.
Also, if you just want to get in the mood and have some beers, I suggest you hit a club called Don Quintins. It's on Lincoln next to La Serrata. I have never seen so much fine tail in one place at the same time. Amazing club. The house band has two girls there who are SO fine, especially the brunette. She looks like a Playmate with the tightest abs I have seen in a long time. I'm telling you, hit this spot, have some beers, then cruise to El Centro. Well worth the trip.
Bachelor Warrior says "Where is Felina's? Another one I haven't heard of."
Felina's is on Jose Borunda. I don't remember the exact address, but it's somewhere around 1800 or so. It's on the second level of a three level building. There's another massage place, Corpus a block east of it. If you know where Sirenas or el Encanto are, just head south from there on Costa Rica to Jose Borunda (a couple blocks south of 16 Septembre) and turn right. It will be a few blocks down on the left.
Auuggghhhh Adam!
You just outed my best kept MP secret in CJ (like there really are any).
I have also heard rave reviews from local guys about Don Quintins.There is also a "gentlemens" lounge with a rather provocative sign at the Museo complex across the street, but, as many times as I have stayed in the area, I have yet to go in to either. Maybe the Palooza incorporates those as the warm up to el centro?
Although those friggin taxis would be an expensive problem....
El Paso Gentleman,
I don't know the exact address to the La Siesta Motel, but I think I can describe how to get there.
When you cross the free bridge, keep on going all the way to Trifundo de la Republica (this is the street that becomes Septiembre 16 going east. Take a left and continue going west for about a mile and a half. The street will take a sharp turn to the right (almost 90 degrees, it actually become Technological Street now). If you look straight ahead, before you turn, you will see a large globe-like looking building, you can't miss it, its huge. Right behide this building you will see the La Siesta Motel. It is a drive-in motel, you know - you drive into the garage for the room and they come collect the money before you go up. I've used it a few times and it is clean they even have room service.
I haven't seen anyone report about Ivette at Queens. This girl is hot! I've got to say that she provides the best sex that I have had in Juarez!
I have seen some reports on Alice and Charleys lately and I wanted to add my 2 cents. I think that this place has some of the best looking ladies around. I must admit that I think that Patty (who was reported to be a waste of time) is a lot of fun to be with. Although I will admit that the performance in the "room" was only so - so. I have never been with Perla. How about a run down on the other ladies there from the more experienced players? Would appreciate your thoughts on the "talent" since I find the girls attractive. Who is worth the time and $ and who isn't?
Yvette at Queens is very hot and a lot of fun. New girl there named Perla is a pretty blonde, wanted too much cash but was very fine as well.
Anyone hit Virginia's lately? There used to be a girl there with an terrific, petite body named Michelle. Was wondering if she was still there. Also, some real decent girls lately at the Pink Lady. A blondie there has some NICE abs. Yummy. A few other choice girls as well. Pricey, but when options are limited but money isn't, it's a nice place to go.
Also, a good warm-up joint is called The Safari. It's right Pancho Villa. Some hot girls work there, serve beer and chat. Kind of a locals only spot, but a cheap place to drink and the eye candy on some nights is A-OK.
Also, a good spot to check out is El Papillon bar. Very hot girls work there as waitresses and you can get a Rib-eye with all the trimmings for 7 bucks. Go on a Sunday afternoon and the beers are 2 for one. Steak and 2 beers for under ten bucks is a bargain to me, toss in a hottie to talk to during your stay and you can't beat it.
Yvette at Queens is "rubia",si? If so, I have sat and talked with her, but she wasn't the most personable girl I have met there. Didn't pass the laugh test, so I didn't drop any coin on her. Attractive,yes. Of course, she may not have liked ME.
Tell us more about Yvette. What was her specialty, how old, body type and what was the cost of this chica caliente? Don't just tease us man!
I was in Alyce & Charlie's just the other day. I agree with the previous post that there are some very nice looking girls in there. Nice, slim, firm body types. Easy to look at. If you're in the neighborhood, you ought to drop in and check it out.
"Patty" came and sat with me right away looking for drink. She's very nice looking, but because of the posts here, the high cost, and because I just wasn't in the mood, I declined to buy her one. She then offered to go to the room for $80, but again, because of the posts here, I passed on that too. I left shortly afterwards.
I've noticed all the posts about Yvonne at Queens being hot and fabulous. Well, I will say again I think she's a real dud. Very nice to look at, but a dud. You will wish you spent your time and money elsewhere.
Yvette is "Blonde", yeah right. And I'm the President of the USA. But if you're cool with the fake hair, she looks fine. She's a girl who you will see there, with big breasts and a very pretty face. She's not one of the slimmer girls there like Yvonne and Marilu, but she's not fat either. Just looks like one of those girls who's well put together because she's 22-23, but at 32-33 it's gonna all hang if you know what I mean. I hope that I'm not painting a bad picture because she's really, really pretty. But you can just tell that you'd better hit it now while it's still hot. Her tits are VERY nice, so if that's your thing, she's your girl. She's had a couple of kids, but is still young enough to not really show it.
She's very quiet which is the one thing that is hard to take. She will hardly talk to you unlike some of the other girls who are there to Par-TAY. But she isn't stuck up or anything like that. Just kinda soft-spoken. Upstairs she's very submissive without doing the glassy-eyed shut down thing that some girls do. She'll give you a cbj and let you bang those titties. I've taken her upstairs for $65 on a slow night, but I've heard friends say she charged them $80, so your mileage may vary.
Again, very nice looking woman. Will cost you a little extra in drinks and effort and not a wild girl in bed. But if you want someone there who will at least be nice and respectful in the bar and submissive while you jack-hammer away on an amazing rack, that's a great thing. Think of her as the antidote to the insane but wild chicks that make you crazy while banging your brains out.
Yvette is a quiet change that you can really enjoy once in a while. But take an extra $20 if that's what you're looking for.
Queens has a set pricing for the girls by the half hour/hour. If Perla is quoting caro, just tell the manager. It'll come down fast. And she will straighten out, if she wants to continue working there.
I GUESS that's the same girl. Didn't notice the rack, and I generally DO notice that right away. BTW, there was a tall dark haired, HUGE TITTED wonder working at Queens March7thish. My friend tried to get with her but she was really cold. La conoce? Spectacular rack. And the rest was very competitive.
Well, it looks as if I might have different taste in women than some given some other's experiences with Yvette. Or maybe I just hit it off with her. Don't know. I know that I spent a fair amount on drinks the times I have been with her. She asked for $60 for her time in the room (1/2 hour), I have been with her 3-4 times. Once for 1/2 hour and the others for an hour. There was a HUGE qualitative difference with the hour sessions from the half hour ones. The half hour time was a pretty typical wham bam thank you ma'm type of session, the others were really extraordinary. Of course, I am not into wild times, I enjoy more of a GFE session and it certainly was provided in the longer times that I spent with her.
I'm still trying to find out more about the various girls at Alice and Charley's. Looks as if there is not too much info so I will have to take "one for the team". There used to be a girl there with glasses that I thought was cute, don't remember her name though. I thought she looked sort of like the "girl next door" type which I like. Haven't seen her there in a while though. Anybody have info on her or others? If not, then I will give some a "whirl" and report back.
actually, i will take a closer look at yvette on my next visit, due to your report. the gfe is the best by far, and if you have found that with her, then you are lucky chuck, as always.
one caveat, if you are still seeing an ex'bar girl, be very careful where you go, because she will hear about your travels sooner than later. they have peeps everywhere, and i have had bar girls tell me where i was during the day.
Had some luck hit at Faustos/Alice and Charly's, but also have had some misses. The place can get expensive, that's for sure, so it's best to go right after payday. There are 4 or 5 girls there with WICKED bodies. Chantal has an amazing ass, but has gotten bad reviews for her bedroom performance. I wouldn't know because I haven't had the pleasure of finding out. Still, that ass is amazing. There is another fake blonde girl there with a killer body. I haven't been able to talk to her because she's always been sitting with other guys. There is a girl there who is young, 20 I think, and I just blanked on her name. Her body is as fine as Chantal's but her teeth are all messed up. If you see a girl and she's got darker skin but an amazing body, and when you try to get her to sit with you, you notice her teeth are hardcore messed up, trust me you need to bail. She's not worth it. Great bod, but not worth your time, wants many drinks and won't even consider going "al cuarto contigo". Bummer because I bought her 3 drinks before figuring that out.
Now there is a girl there named Jenny who works almost exclusively on Fridays. She is one of the five with the tightest abs and asses you will find in all of El Centro. I got her to leave with me and go to a hotel, but the salida and everything cost me $120. So, you might say that it was hardly worth it. I know that you guys sometimes slam mongers who overpay, and that's ok. I am posting this so that you learn from my mistake. Still, I have to say that Jenny was worth it. Her body was so fine and she shagged the bejeezus out of me. One of the best GFEs I have ever had. The downside, she left some small bitemarks which would have been tough to explain to a wife or girlfriend. Luckily I had neither at the time.
So, in conclusion, I probably won't be stopping there again for more than a drink or two and a nice show. It's just not worth it. There are some amazing girls there though to be had. Maybe if I have a good day at the sportsbook, I will indulge. Otherwise, I'll stick to the more price-friendly girls like at the MPs.
Mugroso-"I started way down Mariscal street at the Las Palmeras. Not much there but I did see a cute mature freelancer hustling drinks. She is on my to do list"
That sounds like my friend Isella. She's the first one I look up with every trip. One trip it was her every day. Very nice - very fun but she can slap down the chica drinks in a hurry! I like Las Palmeras and usually get treated very nicely by Isella & a few of her friends (who are no longer there) & Manny (the boss?). Only problem this time was that the rules changed a bit "NO MAS DOS CHICAS FOR YOU! - NOT WITH ME! NO MAS!" Sheeesh! Touchy touchy.
I was just down there last week and it was the first trip there since last May. I figured that she might notice me and think I looked familiar. Hell - 2 steps in the door and she shouts out my name. That was a nice "home-coming". I didn't spend much time there (only one time) this trip as I wanted to explore the other joints that I read about here & some side streets. Interesting to say the least.
Las Palmeras used to be pretty good with a few young lookers in it. This last trip it was heffer central.
If you see Isella tell her Patricio says OLA!
Just came back from a short trip to Juarez. I usually end up at Las Palmeras as mentioned in another post but this time, armed w/ the great info from this board, I opted to explore a bit.
First walk around was during the day to keep my bearings. Hit Sans Souci/Casa Colorado. A few girls in the corner and was approached by "Laura". Cute but a bit heavy in the caboose for me. I was just tabulating the area anyway for later. I declined her offer knowing I would be back later at nite. A day or two later at nite I returned and didn't see any better of a selection. I was approached by "Angie". Fairly decent shape, a little older, "funny" teeth. Agreed on 40 for what sounded like a marvelous time. After realizing that the cute little bartender was the best one in the house I said "what the hell". On the way to the room Angie was all lovey dovey - kissy/feely. 3 minutes into what felt like a "chin-job" she wants 20 more. Anyway - 20 later and it was one of the worst times.
Hollywood: I went in, ordered my 2 for 1 for $3 and was given $12 back out of a 20. Damndest thing tho'- on the way over from the register I watch the guy slip something in his pocket. After his profuse apology he comes back with the right amount except now the singles are Mexican coins. He says he has no singles. "What was wrong with the 2 you just gave me?" Anyway he blew his tip. I brushed off the 2 or 3 girls that approached me. Fair selection but the place started to give me a "chollo" type feel.
Queens: Nice place. Older gent sat me down for my 2 for 1's. After a few offers of buying this one or that one a drink by my waiter, MaryLou came over and introduced herself. WOW! But she struck me as being the "head cheerleader" for the joint which in my eyes meant the registers came first. I passed but couldn't take my eyes off that long sleek figure of hers. The first one that was suggested to me was in a dark corner and I was still scoping the place. Of course by the time she hit the stage I was kicking myself. Very nice. Can't remember her name but of course she had hooked up by now. Stupido!
Virginia's: The tiny little & old chica that kept hounding me for drinks turned me off. "You don't even have to buy me the drink - just give me the $3". Some thin little girl was dancing. Didn't take any clothes off and was so hung up on herself in the mirror that the beer started tasting bitter... The place next door was one of those fog machine disco's. The doorman alerted me to the fact that it was a gay disco. Mucho gracias - adios!
The little dive caddy-corner from Queens was just that. A dive.
Standing on that corner and looking across the street (down the Virginia's side) a few "chicas" were hanging out in front of what proved to be a small hotel. One was a very cute, soft looking 20 year old, one was 15! And the other was named "AlbertO". Another girly-boy came out while I was expressing my shock of "******?!!!" who I have to admit was not only cute but nicely shaped. At that point I figured I had too many beers and thought it best to leave... Policia were stopping by and hand-kissing the "girls" and exchanging pleasantries.
On another nite I started with a walk from the Queens area to Panama. After being acosted by a few very unattractive - check that. UGLY - TV's by the gym corner (across the street) I made it. Seemed like a nice little joint with a fairly decent selection.
These walk arounds were just that. Just trying to mental map the joints that were mentioned here.
Heard mention of Cleopatra's for massage: Walked in and 3 girls were available. I decided on Claudia. Tall, "big-boned", easy smile. Understand that I really did want a decent rub as well. She had me face down and started with the baby oil. She hit all the spots that I needed in my neck & back. She slowly worked my legs and very teasingly - like testing the waters - worked her way between them. Loved having her nips played with & kissed. Great CBJ. Somewhere thru it all the aroma of stale pussy filled the room but let her ride me anyway. I went back another day with her and it was a definite change no more stinky. She came twice and I loved it all. Her oral is great (borderline cock-worship) and loves to have her titties sucked while doing so. I toss her a 20 each time on top of the $30/hour. No rush, no DFK but everything close enough to it. The bunk is narrow and a bit high up. I'm 5'9" and it was a bit of work having her on her side while I stood on the floor. I like them riding me anyway. We both got our hour's worth...
Farmacia: Coming down Ave Juarez on the right side the 2nd (I think) farmacia is called Farmacias Nacional. A big guy named Edger (or maybe it was Hector?) is the most helpful farmacia dude I've ever come across. Besides the Vitamin "V", I needed some other items and he knew exactly what I needed from my list. Very helpful & friendly. Oh yeah - 100mg Pfiezer Viagra for $13.50 USD with a 50mg taped to the side of the box. Both in their sealed cards w/ good expire dates. I usually buy a few boxes of 4 but this seemed to calculate a little better to me. Edger wears glasses and has a short buzz type hairstyle. Nice guy.
I have some other notes somewhere in my bag on my hand drawn map but can't find them yet...
On a border check note: I noticed that they are randomly popping hoods open now. SUV's, small cars, US plates, Mexican plates - no rhyme or reason that I could see. Just when I found a couple of good little under the hood nooks to use.
I always wanted a couple of those swords that can be found in the little shops but always figured that they wouldn't get across. Just to make sure I asked an Officer. "Yeah - you can bring them but it just more stuff for us to chop up when you get here." Priceless...
Cienega32,
Tell me more about this Angie with the funny teeth at the Casa Colorada. Was this chica extra short with a weak chin, small tits and a nice ass? If this is the came chica she can be a lame lay but I was always amused with her. She has worked at Virginias, Hollywood, and Noche Y Dia. I haven't been to the Casa in quite a while. I'd like to go see her but I hate it there and I am saving up for the mongerpalozza later this month. A good lame lay will be a nice change of pace(Marilu). Sex shouldn't always be fantastic.
As far as Las Palmeras, Isela is an older lady. The freelancer I saw was quite a bit younger. I finally met her this past Saturday night. She must be had.
Cienega32, nice report
I met "Laura" at Casa Colorado when she first started working there, she was quite petite then ( 2 years ago, and before her nino). She ,without question, had one of the hottest bodies of anyone I had ever been with. The first nite, I paid $60us for her, and we went at it a number of times, to our delight. Every position, hard, and she loved it. The big problem with her was she didn't care to learn any english. I would go there to see her ,l ater, with improved spanish, but she wouldn't make much effort to talk. If they aren't friendly, why bother, si?
And after the bambino, she really porked up. She still stares at me when i go back to CC, and we exchange greetings, but that is all. She is the poster girl for "hot now but what about after the kid?". Que lastima. If only...................
Queens:
Older gent is Gino. Good to have as a "friend" there. Marilu is the "queen" of Queens, but there are a few others there who are worth shagging. The problem is that if you want to tie them down, it's gonna cost you drinks (assuming you don't just run up to the rooms,or fine them out) for a few hours. And that is expensive. My suggestion, if you thinks she 's hot in Queens , take her up or out. Too expensive to close the place, you don't get a better deal doing that.
Mugroso:
This Angie was an itty-bitty of sorts with shoulder length black hair. Not a head turner but not unattractive either. Looked look from the bar to the lounge seating area. Gapped front teeth at the least. Didn't really get too much of a look at it - her nice black dress distracted me a bit. The 2 or 3 other girls seemed to be engrossed in conversation like they were on a break. Angie turned out to be one of those "What the hell - if anything I'll take one for the team" type of deals. And it was.
Isalla (I think) says she's 44 or 46. First time I was there I passed on her with all the young dynamic chicas that they used to have there. Somehow I ended talking her & her amiga into a 3-way a day or two later. Anyway after many 3's with a different amiga each time, 1 on 1's, and with sitting with her thru-out the evenings I started to enjoy her company a lot. I'm 50 so I think the age closeness has a lot to do with it. The last time there she made it abundantly clear in that unique firery Latina way that the dos chica days were over for me (with her).
Who was this younger freelancer? Any name? The one day that I was there it was a real light crowd with nothing but large girls working.
Mongerpalooza? When? Where? Tell me more. Give me another reason to make an 800 mile road trip!
RearWindow:
Thanks for the thumbs up on my first report.
Funny thing when Laura presented herself. First thing I thought when she walked away was "Man - I bet she was hot before." She just a quality about her that I thought would be enjoyable.
Is Gino at Queens a sophisticated or more refined Spaniard appearing gent? If so then that's good to know that he's good to have as a friend. He seemed nice in a genuine way. Not like most of the "hawkers" or waiters that try to get you in. Next time I'll be more receptive to his suggestions. Like I said - his first recommendation I regretted turning down later. I was still getting the lay of the land and didn't want to commit yet.
I enjoy just sitting and watching the basic interactions between the girls and the customers in these clubs. Some girls seem to strive to be like MaryLou as the numero uno of the joint. They know it. The bar knows it. The customers will end up knowing it. Some girls you can actually see the calculations in their head & hear the "Cha-ching!"as they measure up a new walk-in. Others seem to just be happy with being able to find a guy to treat them right with conversation and manners (and chica drinks, of course). Now that I think about it - much the same as American women (grin). Just more of the latter which is nice.
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My "Ugly American" story:
The young aggresive doorman at Virginia's who bounces from corner to corner hawked me inside. I looked around (my 2nd night of looking in) and thanked him on my way out. After looking in another door I came out and he hit me with the same carnivalesque hawk lines. After hearing his near perfect English, I said, with a smile, you just pulled me in there 2 minutes ago. He got insulted or whatever and asked if I spoke Spanish. I told him very little but I'm learning as best as I can. He says "Ahhhh - OK - listen:" Then rattled off some dissertation in Spanish which by the facial expressions and tone (none of which were unpleasant or angry) I figured was something along the lines of "dumb gringo in my country". He finished with a smile and "OK?" and went back to his perch. Not being a stupid man I figured I insulted him, his family, his country & his right to be alive by pointing out that he just accosted me 2 minutes prior. I walked over to his perch and said " I meant no disrespect to you - I was just taking a breather. I'll go in & have a beer or two. No problem" and patted his shoulder. He looks away with a make-believe hurt look and says "Me no speak English..."
I love this place called Cd. Juarez. I really do. I live much closer to TJ but prefer this place a lot more. A lot more fun in an Old Mexico kind of way.
Cienega32,
Based on the input I have recieved so far should take place the 24th of April. I suggest we all meet in a neutral location (non monger bar) like the Kentuky Bar. It is easy to get to as it is on the right side of Avenida Juarez. We can all exchange the yada yada yadas and then carry on from there. I'd be glad to show the less experienced a little tour of the zona. Maybe I can show someone a thing or 2 or vise a versa. I believe it was RearWindow who said would it be funny if MariLu's clients all showed up at the same time.
But anyways, I am still open to more or better suggestion.
The Filthy One
At Queens, it's "Chino" and he can be very helpful. Just watch your change and make sure that as the night goes on and the beers have gotten to you a little, that the correct amounts are coming back to you.
Hit the Phantom on Thursday and was pretty pleased. There is a guera there with a knockout little body named Maria Lorena. Also a tall girl named Jahaira who has one of those nice stripper bodies, (big chest, long legs). Both seemed pretty cool, but I didn't ask them to leave with me. I get the feeling it would be about $200, which is too much, but the quality of girls is better than at Queens. Thursday was the perfect night to go, since there was a ton of girls, but not enough clientele to keep the one you want away. Also noticed that they have a lap-dance room now that is very dark. I don't remember this being there before, but then it's been over a year since the last time that I went. No question you could get extras in there, since the meseros weren't even going in there.
Casa Colorado seems to be getting slower and slower. I'm usually in there earlier rather than later, so maybe it picks up. Or, I suppose the girls could all be in the rooms? I usually don't stay too long.
It seems to me that there's hardly anything going on in the Panama lately. Very few girls, very few customers. Strange. A couple of years ago, it seemed like that was the place.
I dropped into the Pink a couple of weeks ago. It seemed to be about normal. Fairly busy. Girls are probably in the 5 to 8 range. I can't ever remember seeing a 9 or 10 there. But, sometimes the gorgeous ones are stuck up or cold, so what the heck?
I wanted to ditto the remarks about Chino at Queens. I like him too. He will hook you up with whatever girl you ask for, unless she's super busy. I think he would be very interesting to talk to about the " old" days. I'd say he's 70 or more now. It's hard to tell in the dark of course. Anyway, a good guy.
A friend and I got an early start over the border on a Thursday last Month. We made a line to Queens and it was all locked up as of 11:30am, then we went to CC which was cleaning up for the start of the day. The manager said they'd be open in 10 minutes but it was empty aside from him and two middle age cleaning ladies.
We wandered down to Club Panama and as soon as we approached the door a manager type came out and said come on in. We walked in and there were two old guys and a girl sitting at the bar drinking coffee. At the other end were two 6s. My friend and I ordered beers and sat down at a table. Our beers arrived and the girls came over. We quickly settled for $50 and were off to the rooms next door. $2 for the condom and $1 for the cleaning lady and a little kissing kicked off the session. I figured I had bought her a drink so it was clean enough. Anyway, she was trying to slip the condom on when I guided her head that way. She did a very proficient BBBJ and then popped the condom on. We finished doggie, I tipped another $5 and went back to the bar where my friend was already waiting. After comparing notes, mine was prettier (his actually had almost a cartoon big bootie and a small girl) but his was quite active and even let him do anal without as much as a mention of special service!
Later lunch, we wandered down the street the Pink lady was on and some guy told us that it had moved down the street a good four blocks past Ave. Septiembre 16. He kept trying to lead us there but we did not want to pay his commission. (That is something you need to avoid as it boosts the price substantially when the bar has to pay a commission.) After walking what seemed lie a long way we finally saw the reddish sign on the right side of the street after the nice grocery store. My friend picked up a very pretty woman, about 20 I'd say, within the first beer. Then I looked around and there wasn't too much left that was available. The rest were sitting at tables. I guess that is a big thing, guys just wanting conversation and happy to pay for it in that place. I never saw any of them get up. There were 3 left, a huge but pretty one, a rather skanky looking one, and a very fun but probably 40ish lady talking to a guy at the bar. He started talking to me explaining how he effectively lived there each time he was in town.
I mentioned my dissappointment that there was nothing left for me and he immediately thrust the 40ish lady on me. She spoke good english and started pushing me to take her on. I explained I was looking for anal and she said no. The guy came in again and I mentioned why I was not taking her up. Again he wants to help and starts asking the manager for me! Well the good looking 40ish one say lets go for $60 and said she'd try anal. I figured this was a bait and switch but I also realized my friend was already mid way through his. So we went up, I paid the girl and the $2 dollar tip to the staff and asked for 'lubricante.' It was one of those movie type scenes where immediately the lady yells, out to another lady on the second floor, "lubricante". "Lubricante" then echoed throughout the place by various people about a dozen more times before we finally shut the door accepting that there was none to be had.
She gave a very effective oral and taint/ball licking until I was rock hard and then said are you ready? Yep, after some very friction filled moments she fulfilled her promise. I tipped her another $10 as we were dressing and we went back to the bar. My friend was there talking with his girl and we joined them and sat for several more beers before heading out. Yep, we had been turned into those guys who were not taking the ladies out when we first arrived.
ogman
I'll be there on the 24th and ready for some mongering. I am open to learning all that I can about the area.
I think guys in a group together tend to be a bit more outgoing and that tends to get the girls into the the party mood also!
I'll be there on the 16th, 17th and 23rd also if anyone else wants to meet up.
ob1
I've never seen any reports on Masaje Roma, so I went to investigate (for the team). The address is 1251 Lopez Mateos Sur. There's plenty of parking, and the plaza is a little nicer than typical for the area.
There was only 2 chicas there at 1pm Friday. I chose Alex, a bleach blond with a curvy body. She was quite enthusiastic, with multiple positions, and a better bj than typical in an mp. I give the place and the girl a thumbs up.
Yes Chino (I always thought it was Gino) is a nice guy and certainly will try to hook you up with a girl. If you don't care for the first one, just let him know what type of girl you are looking for and he will do his best. On the down side, he will take one HECK of a long time to make change for your drink, and I always get the impression that he hopes you will get so involved that you will forget that he owes you some. Otherwise, decent guy.
Masajes Roma has always been pretty decent. Their 2 for $50 special is the way to go. Girls there are always on the slim side and ok performance.
Also, went to Marilyns again this past weekend and had a go with Adriana, short girl with huge breasts. She was very good, and gave an excellent massage. Marilyns is the way to go right now, especially if you haven't tried Mariana.
By the way, has anyone seen or heard anything about Candy who used to be at Genesis? It would be a real shame if she dropped off the map. That girl was the best time in town.
Part of my motivation in going to Roma was the off chance that Candy may have ended up there. We've got to put out an APB on her.
I did try Mariana and was happy about that. I was begining to think all this talk of her was a hoax. I had been there several times, and each time had seen only one very heavy chica with lots of bruises. Good thing I gave it another try.
Clydesdale, et al ,
This hurts my heart to affirm that Mariana (at Marilyn) is all that the posters claim. She is muy bonita, slender, perfect breasts,ass and legs, and if you have not seen her with her hair down, ASK! I think I'm in love with her. Well , her and 200 other women. She is very gentle, but I love nothing more than hearing her breathe in my ear quicken as I f**k her. And she does respond. I see her exclusively at Marilyn, and always call to schedule my time with her.
Adam Duritz, I must challenge you to a duel. ;). for outing her name here. Choose your weapon,"sir".
Hey Fellas,
1st time post and comment. Adam is candy at Genesis the tiny one, very cute, early 20's likes to ride cowboy style with her feet on the table and bounce?
I have done limited travel to mexico but have always had a blast in Juarez with a friend of mine that used to live there. He still flys back once in a while and I meet him in El Paso. Its too bad that its hard to find and trust people to monger with. I would go more but I do not speak spanish and my friend always picked me up and droped me off since he lived in Mexico and in U.S.
I posted a report at WSA about a trip to Juarez and El Paso that net me 3 girls (two MP in Juarez and a regular chick in El Paso) in about 7 hours but nobody made a single comment haha. I thought this board was a little more area specific. I assume that a lot of the posters here are also posting there but it was a good day for someone that would normally not be able to experience that. I will post it here if anyone asks. Anyway, this is a very informative board and I think the Admin does a nice job. The girl in the crappy photo was a serious 10 with braids, very sexy.
Thanks,
Ad Rock
I've compiled 2 maps and a Legend that I hope will help some of the newer mongers in the Ave Juarez area.
I'm pretty sure that they're accurate but it's done from memory (and we know how well that works after a nite in Juarez...)
I'm a bit sketchy on Panama & Sans Souci - I'm trying to remember the walks to those joints. Can't recall how many streets I crossed but they should be close.
I didn't post them here due to their size/resolution.
Anyway I hope they're found to be as helpful to others as this forum as been to me.
MAP 1 is a basic overview:
http://www.cienega32.com/juarez/juarez%20MAP%201.jpg
MAP 2 is an "inset" view of the "hot zone":
http://www.cienega32.com/juarez/juarez%20MAP%202.jpg
Legend describes/names the "points of interest":
http://www.cienega32.com/juarez/Map%20Legend.txt
Please inform me of any corrections that may be needed!
Mole_master,
Thanks Cienega32, for us newbees this will sure make a diffrence. I'll let you know how this turns out!
Cienega32,
Cool website. Nice and simple. Looks like maybe something I could do. Tell me all about it please. Who hosts it. program used and anything else I may find of use. I'd really apprecitate it.
Sorry Bro, just trying to spread the..errr, love. Thought some of you fellow mongers could enjoy the tip. Just hoping that whichever one of you guys finds Candy working again will return the favor and let us in on the secret. By the way, R.W., did you ever get a chance to tap Nohemi when she was there? WOW! She was every bit the mynx that Mariana is and then some.
One thing about me, I really enjoy going to Juarez and there are a lot of places that I know and am comfortable in. So, if I can clue the others in, it's only with the hope that they will do the same when they find a smooth piece themselves. I mean, one guy cannot conquer Juarez alone (although Dreaming Eagle might be able to).
You should go to Luxxor sometime before 3 PM and try Vanessa (another petite cutie) and also Dayana at Brendas. Both are tasty morsels, you know, when you need a little variety.
AD, no problem..just giving out a little grief. Mariana's been my exclusive there, since I first met her, so I haven't tried any of the others. Nohemi might pre-date my visits , I think Dreaming Eagle might have referred to her in post a while back when the subject of tall drinks of water came up. And actually, that type of woman at this writing is my favorite, so if any other jewels like her suddenly appear, I'd love to know. This trip (11 days!!!! from NOW :) ) will be spent (literally) in the MP's during the day, and in who knows who at nite.
I am not sure about this, but is the mongerlooza still starting at Kentucky Bar? I leave here 4/17, for a three day stop in the south before heading to Juarez, and might not be able to log on after that. As long as the date is the same (4/24) I can always just head to Kentucky in mid evening if I don't hear before hand.
BTW Mugroso, that pic of Marilu just kills me. Not in a ha ha way , but in the "got to f**k her " way! She is SO hot. And no way 7 kids.
I'm sitting here re-reading some posts and thinking back to my first visit to Juarez in the summer of 2002. I was on my way to a 10,500 mile road trip from Vegas to Miami, to New York, & back home. Never have seen the southern route on I-10. Stopping in El Paso with the intent of Juarez - I always enjoyed TJ but very touristy now.
Walking down Ave Juarez and seeing the sights I stopped to get a fruit drink and noticed a young tall cutie looking over at me. She smiled sweetly when I looked back. We "talked" and she was a food server nearby. After wandering around the marketplace by the church I went back to eat. We ended up "todo la noche" and she was insulted & angered when I hinted at money! Bingo! Anyway I stayed in El Paso for 3 nites instead of 1 which screwed up my trip dates but what the hell...
(BTW - same thing happened in New Orleans - 3 nites instead of 1)
Anyway - feeling a bit more at ease with Juarez I decided to drive over and explore. The area far to the west of Ave Juarez was like out of an old movie - holes in the walls of these small homes, happy, smiling but vagabond type children running into the street to see the gringo in the shiney red convertable holding up his new video camera. I was waiting for them to hold up signs saying "Viva El Presidente!!!" It seemed that impovished.
I just kept driving around a little and nite began to fall. Not knowing where the hell I was I figured I better get back to "known country-side". I ended up on what I think was a freeway type of road. Crazy. The exits ramps were shorter than most driveways that I've seen in America.
Then came the vision. I somehow ended up in the hot bar area by the Mariscal / Delgollado area. Past Vegas, etc. It was a sudden transformation to a different world. Surreal at the least. I felt like I was in the Apocolypse Now scene when they went up river and all "sanity" escaped. Lights flashing their promise of pleasure, girls of all sizes and ages wandering around the streets, white shirted men yelling at every passerby in "Spanglish", the chicas posing, talking thru car windows, musica everywhere masking the sounds of my tires bouncing thru potholes. My sense of reality was overwhelmed. I fell in love.
I never could find this area again - not knowing how I got there or where I was but knowing it was somewhere "over there". But I did keep ending up with my food server chica and also found Club Palmeras (which at this time had many young hotties dancing fully nude) sometime in there as well.
My return trip was re-routed to return to Juarez. Pissed a few friends off in some other states but hey.
The food server was very happy to see me again but I STILL couldn't find that "cartoonish" area that I longed to visit.
All in all I've made 6 or 7 trips there and this last trip in March was the first time I returned to the "Vegas club" area. That was with the help from you folks here. Funny how close I always was. I always cut thru the Plaza - it's my landmark to go west a block - but I would go left and stay on Mariscal.
And even tho' it will never match that first drive-thru impression & I've since lost contact with my food server it is a fun time!
And Jackson - as they say in divource court - the check is in the mail.
Hope to mongermeet some of you on the 24th. I'm packing as we speak.
Ok, lets make it solid now.
The time and place: The 24th of April, between 6 and 7pm (1800 to 1900 for you military types) at the Kentukey club on Juarez Avenue.
Directions: If you are walking over the bridge the Kentuky Club will be a couple 2 or 3 blocks into Juarez on your right hand side.
The plan: I will take all down Juarez Avenue to 16 September, right to Mariscal Street then up to the Las Palmeras. I chose this way as to avoid any distractions on the way there. Also you will get to see some of normal Juarez. From the Las Palmeras we will work our way towards the border. Majority vote decides whether we stay in a particular bar.
What to bring: Money (duh), condoms, digital camera, boner, and evil thoughts.
Anyone with ideas please post them.
The Filthy one
I certainly will be there with all the requisite "hard"ware. To paraphrase Tiger Woods " time looks good, chicas look good, I like my chances". (Jim Rome listeners will recognize that one.)
Mugroso, I believe the photo section is down, as I can't torture myself by viewing the newest Marilu photos.
Cienega32, I too hit New Orleans a few years back, and it haunts my mind. I will never return to that place. And it is not that I had a horrible time.. it has way too many memories that I still can't shake..and yes, they do involve a woman. Go figure. Shortly after that I made my first trip to Juarez, and I "fell in love" with young Laura , who's name is really Sondra ( Sandra). A year went by before I returned to Juarez, the course of that time was spent in the fallout from the NO trip. When I got back to Juarez, it wasn't as I had left it. It Was better. I saw so many things that I hadn't realized were there, due to my preoccupation on my first visit.
Now , I can't stay away, and won't. Every trip I take is different now, as people who recognize me start helping me in little ways that are immeasurable in their worth. My mongering buddy and I lament that if we were more fluent in Spanish, the ciudad would open like a pearl gifted oyster. As would the mujeras.
This goes out to the members who have made this forum what it is today: Dreaming Eagle, ELPG, Sun Devil RN, Dougie,BorderJumper, et al. Forgive me if I have omitted a name, everytime I search, my browser deletes what i have written here, so I'm doing this off the cuff.
Gentlemen,
Please honor us with you presence at the Mongerpalooza on April 24, 2004. Kentucky Bar, 6-7pm starting time. I have used so much of your expertise in my visits that I should at least be able to buy you a drink.
Well, Actually, I'm hoping that everyone else there will chip in for that as well..to keep my chica money where I want it.
Why? I am not sure. But I share the magic of this border town. I think of how this area must have been in the 40's, 50's, 60's, 70's and as time moves on it changes. I can't help but know that it will continue to change.
My first visit was in 1981. I was in the military and the helicopter that we had flown in from Oklahoma had broken so we had to wait several days. I wasn't suppose to be anywhere near CJ but curiosity got the better of me. I crossed the border and jumped in a cab that drove around for what seemed like 10 minutes, I now realize it must have been circles. He led me to a bar which was nearly empty. I was led to a room and waited for awhile longer until an older woman showed up. She was the greatest salesperson I have seen. She got 30 dollars from me and I don't think I even got to see her tits. The bbbj I was promised was actually a hj with lube.
I walked out of the room and ask to speak to the manager. I wanted my money back! As I was threatening I must have somehow remebered that I was in a different country, a strangers territory, and somewhere I wasn't even supposed to be. I realized this before I got too much further over my head and just left. Fortunately the cabbie did not abandon me and I still had a ride. He offered to take me to another place but there was no way that I was going to go anywhere but back to my hotel in El Paso. I retreated with a sour taste and did not return for twenty years.
My last trip was to do some work in Juarez and then have some R&R. The savvy that I gained through the previous 20 of world travel years has given me a lot of street skills, even in other counties. I am not fluent in spanish but I can carry on a conversation fairly well. I had a great time and wandered through zona roja at my will not theirs. I met and made new friends and I hope to make new friends over the next several weeks.
I will see and meet those that show up at the Kentucky club. I too hope to see those who have been regular contributors or even just regular lurkers. Some how I doubt that the "Tom Cat" will show up as we, in a group, will be far to visible for his taste.
May the force be with us!
ob1
Well - if the plan is as Mugroso suggests then you know where you'll find me.
And Rearwindow, whenever I finish my latest mongertales back at home it's always asked "So you a great time then?" I always answer, "Hell when I left they were erecting a statue of me in the town square."
I'll probably get there on the 23rd or 24th (can't get away any earlier) and will probably stay for 7 - 10 days. More houses to look at in New Mexico. Yes, it's that bad that I want to relocate.
I'm sure the experienced monger is aware of it but I'll throw it in here anyway.
While thinking back at the short-change attempt that was pulled on me at Hollywood, I still can't figure out what this clown was thinking. What could I have given him for a 3 dollar tab to get 12 back. He must've jumped the 5 in his pocket by mistake and not the ten.
Anyway - my general practice in Juarez (anywhere actually that might be in question) is with the newer US paper to place it backside up under my finger which is pointing to the larger number (lower right of the back of the bill) and my hand holding down the bill until they look at my hand. When they look at my hand I tap the finger a few times at the large number. With that, they always look up and we make solid eye contact. It helps them - it helps me...
As I recall there are some bars/night clubs right after you cross the bridge Ave Juarez. These look like places that the younger crowd/couples goes to and seem more along the lines of a regular meat market type club.
Can anybody fill me in on these types of clubs?
ob1
I have avoided shortchanging problems by telling the waiters/waitresses what I have given them, and I make them verbally acknowledge what I have given them as well. I will agree about Chino at Queens being muy lento about bringing change back, I don't believe it to be intentional, but he HAS been at it a while, so I imagine he has found a few tricks that work every now and then.
I usually get a sh**eating grin on my face whenever anyone asks how my trip was. Pretty much sums it all up. I also get a lot of questions about Juarez, with most people assuming it is on a coast. When I try to explain that it is across from El Paso,vieja, sucia, ruida,y una poquita peligrosa, then the next question is "why do you go?". And I invariably reply "BECAUSE I LOVE IT".
I recently spent Holy Week in Juarez. For those looking for Dulce Elizabeth Ramirez, otherwise known as Candy in Genesis, she is there. She took a month vacation to spend with her kids and family. She has become a good friend of mine because of her good heart. I asked her where I should go during Good Friday since Genesis was going to be closed and she mentioned the Bar Papillon, which had good looking girls.
The bad thing about going to a Catholic country on Holy Week is that all the massage parlors were closed on Good Friday and Easter. Instead, in addition to the Bar Papillon, I went to the Pink Lady and the Princess Palace, near the corner of Bolivia and 16 de Septiembre, where I met a dancer named Deysy, who I took out to my hotel room after closing.
Unfortunately, I won't be able to go to Juarez on the 24th because of work. I generally work weekend nights.
ob1,
They are as you mentioned. Younger crowd, loud, and rather drunken. Pretty much the UTEP crowd out for fun. I went into Cueva, on the right as you cross the bridge, and it was interesting, but I'm not sure that much action can be had there. Compared to the zona bars. But if you want to dance ,that would be a place to go.
OK - a few new names I've come across:
Bar Papillon
Genesis
Club Laura
Where abouts are these three? Santa Fe side or the "other" side?
[b][quote]As I recall there are some bars/night clubs right after you cross the bridge Ave Juarez. These look like places that the younger crowd/couples goes to and seem more along the lines of a regular meat market type club.[/quote][/b]It seems like everytime I'm coming back to the border from Sans Souci at about 1:00 in the morning, the Policia always seem to be there.
I think it's best to avoid these bars at that time. The area seems much better earlier in the evening.
Genesis is on Montes de Oca, just north of Ave Vicente Guerrero. It's closer to the free bridge that the Santa Fe. I'm not certain on the location of the other two.
Newbie Question:
I'm long to the board, but new to Ciudad Juarez...
I've read past posts, checked out the map (GREAT idea!), but I can't seem to tell which are the massage places and which are the chica bars.
Can somebody clarify which is which?
I'll be there for a night next week, and want to be efficient.
Thanks in advance.
Boom
On the map that I put together the massage parlor would be Cleopatra's. It's a little joint with small little cot size "lay downs" that sit high up. It's the only one that I've been to in Juarez.
Being that I tend to center on the Ave Juarez/Santa Fe bridge area that's all I know. The "pros" in this forum have the goods on the other areas and the other MPs.
But you did make realize that I made no distinction in my "legends" file and have edited it. Thanks.
About the "UTEP" bars just over the Santa FE bridge: Every time I come back & throughout the late evening it always seems that POLICIA is cruising the block with the "dog catcher" trucks & with the canvas top trucks with 2 or 3 officers in the back with automatic weapons.
It usually strikes me as the drunk American kids raising hell and the natives that try to capitalize on it. I've never even stuck my head in any of those bars as it seems to me to be the very young "away from home" disco type kids out to get drunk & stupid. The type that would never dream of walking any further into town.
But that's only my impression of those bars - not based on any fact at all.
Leaving to Juazez Sunday night. I am tired of going to the Pink lady. What is the current hot spot. Also I will be going back to Jokers does anyone no how the current deal is with the girls. I know they have good quality but are they working girls or not. Thanks
Boomshaka,
If the place is located in the zona, it is almost certainly a chica bar. Only exception that I'm aware of is Cleopatras, just off Ave Juarez. If you are there for a nite, then it's chica bars for you, cause the MP's close earlier.
Suna,
IMHO, It would be Queens. It totally supplanted any other club in Juarez for me (after my favorites left). Quality of chica and price per chica is good, but drinks will drain your finances quickly.
Cienaga,
Papillon is just a few blocks from Genesis. Will get an exact address this weekend and post it, but it's not really a bar where you can take a chica out of, unless you develop a friendship and confidence with the girl. It's a great place for drinking and the food is really good for the price (Rib Eye, steamed veggies, loaded baked potato, avocado, and fixings for $ 7 bucks). You can have a nice conversation with a gorgeous girl and it will only cost you a decent tip. But for mongering, it's gonna be too time, effort and money consuming. Best to stick with surer bets, unless you're all about the challenge.
As for the Jokers question. Table dances in the private area are $20 bucks, same as Jaguars in El Paso. The difference being that you can get away with pretty much anything up there if the girl is up for it and the bouncers aren't paying attention. Have never had the pleasure of very public full service there, but nothing is off limits there as far as touching, and there are some freaking A+ models there. But there's a catch, to get them out is pricey, and even if they meet you after hours, they will pretty much to a T ask for $400 for the night (meaning 2 hours). You can negotiate with some of them, and I am sure that there are cheaper options, maybe for an hour stint, but you're gonna drop some mad loot on a girl there. At the "newer" jokers, the one that used to be called Premier, the girls are much cheaper, but not nearly as good looking. Only one or two are really hot. The rest are OK by Centro standards.
A great place to try is Phantom where there is a nice balance of hot girls, cheaper drinks, $15 table dances in a private area, and the girls will ask for $200 to leave with you, which again is negotiable. Pretty much the same for Amadeus, but the drinks are pricier. But then they have some real nice chicas.
I think that I have to agree with RW, Queens is the best spot for a sure thing, that won't have you selling your plasma to cover, where there are some girls who are DAMN nice.
There's a few Chicas that have fan clubs on this board, so I thought I'd throw out another name. Karina at Felinas is hot. I'm not much of a tit man, but when I see Karina, that changes. Usually big tits means a gut and a fat butt, but not her. Nice, petite bod with bodacious tatas! No sag either.
>>This goes out to the members who have made this forum what it is today: Dreaming Eagle, ELPG, Sun Devil RN, Dougie, BorderJumper, et al.
Hey, it's nice to be remembered. ;^) I would LOVE to be there for Mongerpalooza next week, but alas my plans to visit keep getting derailed. Was going to come over Easter, then Cinco, now with summer looming and knowing how HOT it gets there I am looking for an early fall trip. Just as well, gives me time to work on mi espanol.
BTW, I keep reading about a place called Luxxor. Is that a new one, or an old one with a new name? Where is it? How's that for sharpening one's pencil well ahead of time. :-D
>>I recently spent Holy Week in Juarez.
I have also done a couple of Pascuas south of the border. I think besides the time around Christmas that Easter is about the worst time to monger. They do seem to take it much more seriously that us gringos.
BUT, Easter sunday is the opening day of the bullfighting season, and it is worth going down just for that. And my last time in town over Easter there were MPs open, even on Easter sunday. Genesis and El Encanto in particular. That may not be the case anymore but it was just a couple of years ago.
Oh yeah, almost forgot. While you guys are Mongerpaloozaing down there in the Kentucky Bar, would someone be kind enough to pick up a schedule for the Bullfights, and scan it in and post the .jpg here?? I know that the Kentucky bar is one of the places that sells tickets to the Corridas and they are sure to have the little flyer which lists the entire schedule for the season. Papa's Cantina in EP also sells them and would likely have the schedule also. And just to keep it on topic, someone fuck Marianna real good for me, and give her a good tip.
Dougie,
I put your BF sked request into my PDA so you should get it when I return. As to Mariana, I will give her a GREAT fuck for both of us (lol) , and tipwise, she's made a small fortune from me already, and will continue to do so. Of course,You can always Western Union ME funds if you are worried about her propinas being down abit...!!!!.
Question for the Pro's. What is the best Northwestern Border town to find beautiful chicas at the best price? I will be going in Middle of May. Im not sure where I want to go. Im hoping you all could help me.:) Also how are the MP's in the N. W. border towns,are they the same basically as the AMP's in USA? What Mp has the most beautiful girls at what price? You can PM if you want. Any help is greatly appreciated!
Thank You So Much!
I Love 'em Hairy! :)
Hairy!
I had planned to attend the bullfight Easter Sunday but the weather cancelled it. It rained pretty much all day and the temperature was in the 40s, somewhat atypical for that time of the year in Juarez. Instead, I fortunately ended hooking up with a girl at a sushi bar.
Luxxor is a massage parlor on 16 de Septiembre, just east of Bolivia and diagonally across the street from the house of the singer Juan Gabriel, about a block west from it. Their pricing is $30 for an hour massage and sex. The interesting thing about this place is that they have TVs under the hole of the massage beds that show porno videos, so you can watch a porno flick while getting a massage on your backside or doing her anal/doggie style.
Therefore, this place, other than Cleopatra, is the closest massage parlor from the Santa Fe bridge.
I know I have an addiction to Juarez, but I didn't think it was this bad. I have been to Juarez WAY too many f***ing times, because I actually know where Juan Gabriel's house is as noted in Sun Devil's msg. And I don't remember the MP.
I need help.:0!
Take two chicas and call us back in the morning.
Re: Luxxor:
Using Sun Devil's directions, I show this location to be about the same distance from Ave Juarez down 16 de Septiembre as is the distance from Santa Fe bridge/Ave Juarez to 16 de Septiembre.
Sun Devil or RearWindow, am I right about the approx distance (1/2 mile or so)?
Also, any tips on how to attend a bullfight would be appreciated. By that I mean tix from where, trans to the ring. I know about the sun/shade thing but I could use some tips on getting there.
I've wanted to see one since I was a little kid.
I just read the report about Phantoms.
This is my experience at Phantoms and Amadeus.
Phantoms charges a 70 USD bar fine and usually the girl wants 130 making it 200. I have been quoted 100 but the girl was not worth it.
Amadeus 70 USD bar fine and 170 for the babe. Lowest quote I got 150.
Jokers is another story 300 for the girl and 100 for the bar. That was the lowest, don't ask me about the highest. But, one big but (no pun intended), the girls are model magazine material.
You can always go to El Horizonte on weekdays and hook up with two girls for 120.
Be safe,
JD
[b][quote]Amadeus 70 USD bar fine and 170 for the babe. Lowest quote I got 150.[/quote][/b]I was wondering if you guys ever try to talk the girls down in price from what they quote you?
I remember going to the Panama Club and the girl quoted me $80 for a trip to the room. From reading some other forums, I knew the going price was from $40 to $50 dollars. I just kind of rolled my eyes at the girl and told her I would pay $50. She just smiled at me and agreed on $50.
Zuzax
i wanted to second rw's comments about loving juarez. i've never been any place like it. for me, it's like the wild west.
now i realize detroit is a special case, but still, i was in detroit within the past year. walking on the street after dark (but still in the early evening like at 7 or 8 pm) felt very dangerous. and this was with a group of people! this was a pretty good area too around the joe louis arena and the big marriott hotel/gm headquarters. anyway, i've never felt that way in juarez. and the people weren't nearly as friendly either.
for sure, i keep my eyes peeled and i don't completely trust anybody. it would make me very nervous if a group of guys, even seemingly very young ones, seemed to watching me a little too close or if someone seemed to be following me.
i'm careful of any girls in the street too. some, maybe more than some, are guys and you never know if "she" is dangerously drunk or loaded up on crack or looking to grab your wallet after socking you in the nuts.
and i don't drink anything that i haven't seen opened. or seen one of the bar girls / waiters / owners drink first. 99% of the time that's beer. one of the taxistas told me that some bars have been known to slip a little something extra in the tequila.
i guess most of this is just common sense. i just hope i have enough of it to keep myself out of any trouble that i can't recover from.
Just one more plug for Mariana of Marilyn's (pun intended): she also gives a very good massage by MP standards. By the way, just when the message proper was ending, Marvin Gaye "Let's Get It On" came on the radio, which was quiite a propos.
I found out that the Juarez strip clubs don't really start until about 7pm. This was surprising given that it was a Saturday (two weeks ago). Note that the "conversation bar" at the new Jokers is open earlier, but I imagine that would be quite expensive route. Nonetheless, the hostess was a knockout (brunette with smallish build but stacked), so if you have nothing better to do it might be a place to kill time. There were about a dozen people there at the time (5ish). Likewise, Amadeus was also open but without dancers (and also without any attractive women in sight). They said the dancers start around 6:30pm. Prince's Palace was closed altogether.
I was at the new Joker's earlier and like the layout better than the place on De la Raza: the stage is bigger and the sitting area is much less cramped. This was during the week, so they had a 2/$6 drink special that certainly makes it more affordable for hanging out. However, the girls weren't as exotic or model-quality (but I was only there a short time).
Saw a new babe at Queens that I hadn't seen before, named Yesenia. She kind of has a latina Angie Harmon thing going, is really stacked and dances great. Was hoping that someone had a report on her because she really looked great.
Hit most of the other bars, but the zona was dead for a saturday night. Not much to speak of at Irma's and Año Nuevo. Vegas and Virginias sucked too. What's the zona coming to?
Was really hoping to go monger-paloozing with you guys, but a friend needed some emergency surgery in Albuquerque today am thinking I had better go visit him instead next weekend when he's finally up to having visitors.
I don't go to the Panama very much, but when I've stopped in it's been practically empty. And it's been that way for quite some time. But Saturday night it was busy. In fact, there were two girls there that I know for a fact had been working at the Pink Lady for probably over a year. It looks like they've switched. I didn't ask why, but I wonder if something has changed? Maybe the shine has worn off of the PL's new location?
Casa Colorado was dead. It seemed like it could have been a Sunday night. Not many girls and not many guys. I have not seen hardly any good looking chicas there in quite a while. The most interesting one I saw was maybe a 7, but she seemed more interested in playing Pac-Man than anything else. I thought maybe it was still early, but the waitress said no, just not much business.
Dougie; Here's all you need about the bullfights in Juarez at this link.
[url]http://www.plazamonumental.com/juarez.ssp#[/url]
The Mongerpalooza at the Kentucky Club on the 24th. Has this gathering been finalized or still in the talking stages? If so, what time and what is the agenda? I may be in the area next weekend and it would be a pleasure to meet some of you guys!
BorderJumper, you are the shitz. Thanks a million, I take back half of the stuff I have said about you. ;^) I called myself doing a web search but I never thought to just type in the name of the bullring into the URL. Duh!
Too bad about my not being able to make Mongerpalooza on the 24th, especially with the Corrida being the next day. Perhaps another one later in the year, like the first week of September or October.
RearWindow, PM me your email address, I'll PayPal you some money to tip Marianna for me. (just kidding). :-D
Not a problem Dougie. You need to take back ALL you've said about me because it is hard to talk about someone with any authority when you've never met them!
It was a simple GOOGLE on "Juarez Bullfights". As long as I lived there and as many times as I passed the place, I never realized what it was
What is the Corrida that's mentioned the day after MongerPalooza?
Bullfights Cienega32! Follow that link I left for schedules and info
Ahhhh - I see. And after I hit the [English] button.
Alas! I AM a dumb gringo.
Has any here gone to these events? No problem bringing a camera or video cam? What about "that side of town" parking and transportation?
I only know the Santa Fe side. [sniff]
5 days and counting!
RE: Cell phones - has anyone called Mex based cell phones from US? I saw others (Mexicali Jack) with problems doing so and wondered about it. I haven't tried but have a number that I would like to call before this weekend.
borderjumper...it's a joke, but i'll go ahead and take back two-thirds of the stuff i've said about you. ;^) and yes, i did do a search some time back for the bullfights and came up with only the citi-guide's page. since then obviously they have gotten more info into their search engines. laziness on my part for not trying again.
cienega...you can carry all the photographic equipment you can stuff into a backpack to the bullfight, i've done it. expect security to ask you to empty the pack to make sure you are not carrying weapons. suggestion, a good slr, either 35mm film or full-frame digital slr as the case may be, fitted with an 80-200mm zoom. don't waste your time with the shit digitals that most folks are familiar with, the lag between pushing the shutter and the photo actually being taken will insure you fail to get a single good shot, unless it is by accident. not enough lens on them anyway, they are good for making pix of the chicas only, preferably naked ones. :-d flash is useless unless you have one hell of a flash, like a metz 60 or something similar, and even then the backrep001ter off of the sequens (sp?) on the matador's suit will kill your shots unless you use a polarizer of some sort. a monopod is, however, helpful for steadying your stuff when the light starts to get scarce. you might also want to carry a normal or moderate wide angle for crowd shots and photos of the chicas. mexicanas are more photogenic than their gringa counterparts. expect to shoot one roll of 24 exposures per bull, and reload betwixt bulls. use the end of the roll for the crowd and the chicas. my personal choice, a nikon fe with a tamron 80-200 on the camera and a nikkor 43-86 in the bag. sometimes in lieu of the 43-86 i carry a point-and-shoot as they weigh about the same and it keeps me from having to change lenses with all the dust blowing around and stuff. anything longer, or shorter for that matter, will not be useful. i sometimes carry a real short lens, like a 19 or a 24, for wide shots but they never turn out worth a shit. i once lugged a 200-400 down there and did not make a single picture with the damn thing. and don't use auto exposure, the lighting is really funny and using auto will only make sure your photos suck. go manual instead. i have a monster flash setup but i loath to use it at the corrida because it is blindingly bright and i would be afraid of blinding the matador and being thrown into the ring myself. oh yeah, where you sit is important too. sit on the shady side (sombra), 1st row (1a fila). looks like 500 pesos for a seat there this year. try to sit around seat #80 if you can, although i have sat as low as #53 i think and as high as ~110 and gotten good angles. the corridas are probaby the most difficult sport there is to photograph, btw, don't be suprised if you burn a half dozen rolls of film and don't get a single shot worth enlarging and hanging on the wall.
plenty of parking right there at the bullring. i guess you could also park at the furutama/rio grand mall and hope you car doesn't get towed. :-( or i guess you could park downtown, either ep or juarez, and ride the bus. the linea central will let you off real close, on the backside of the bullring, or the circunvalation will let you off right in front of the place. or ride a bike, there are plenty of places to chain one up down there.
and mexican cell phones, difficult enough to call one of those things from mexico, let alone the us. i think de's cell number is like 14 digits long or something and you have to dial them all, even if you are calling local. don't know what you have to do to call from the us. on the bright side, my us cell works just fine in mx, but only calls back to the us and receives calls from the us. getting signal off the towers in ep i assume, i have never been hit with a roaming charge when using the phone in juarez.
have fun down there, and fuck mariana's guts out for me.
Oh! Okay!!! :) I was about halfway through a jug of Havana Club when I saw that.
Mexican cell phones. As I recall in Juarez, it is 011-52-plus the number. Somewhere on the net is a website giving access codes for all of Mexico, cell and Landline. I know it was on the TELMEX site about 3 years ago when they went to a standard 10 digit array. I've never had any problems calling a cell in Mexico though. I did find this though
[quote]Calls to Mobile Phones in Mexico:
From a Landline in Mexico > If you are calling a mobile from a land line within Mexico, the number will be preceded by a 3 digit access code, depending on the operator (Telcel is 044, for example), followed by the mobile phone's area code (identical to the place where it was purchased), followed by the mobile phone's number.
From a Mexican Mobile in Mexico > If you are calling a mobile from another mobile on the same network (e.g. Telcel) there is no need to prefix the 3 digit access code (e.g. 044), just dial the area code followed by the mobile number._ If you are not on the same network, you will need to include the access code as if you were calling from a fixed line.
[b]From Outside Mexico > If you are calling a Mexican mobile from overseas, you just dial your country's international access code, followed by Mexico's country code (52), followed by the mobile phone's area code and its number.[/b][/quote]
I believe Juarez City code is 656 now
Hope this helps!
[b][quote]Casa Colorado was dead. It seemed like it could have been a Sunday night. Not many girls and not many guys. I have not seen hardly any good looking chicas there in quite a while.[/quote][/b]Hey Bachelor Warrior,
I was there Saturday night and I thought there were a couple of decent looking girls working. Maybe our taste are totally different.
The one that I was with had a beautiful smile and a pretty nice body to go along with it. I also thought her friend was just as attractive. Unfortunately, her personality wasn't all that great.
I still had a good time though. The bartender and waitress usually keep me amused. Maribel is always calling me some kind of name in Spanish and gets a big kick out of it, because I don't know what the heck it means.
Overall, I'd have to agree with you on the quality of the chicas. I can usually find one or two that I'm at least a little bit attracted to, but hardly ever anything worth writing home about.
Zuzax
[quote]I believe Juarez City code is 656 now[/quote]
I will confirm that as I call into Juarez frequently.
From the US, 011-52-656-XXX-XXXX, for any Juarez number cell or not.
OK - so the number I have is 044-xxx-xxxx.
Now does that mean I have to dial:
011-52-656-044-xxx-xxxx or do I drop the 044.
It's a recently acquried cell number on her part.
It might not matter as I don't seem to be able to find the number.
Oh oh!
Zuzax,
I enjoyed your comments on the CC. Yeah, I'm pretty picky, but maybe I was a little too hasty there. The nicest looking chica I saw was playing Pac-Man and seemed more interested in that than anything. Ditto your comments on Maribel and the waitress. Very nice to talk to. Good sports. They always seem happy.
I haven't seen Celeste there lately. Maybe she went back home for Easter and hasn't come back yet? She's always nice to look at if she's there.
Later,
BW
Why don't you just buy one of those telephone cards that they sell in the convenient stores and, using a Mexican pay phone, insert the card and dial the number. I have done this a number of times and have had no problem.
I would think this is cheaper than using your cell phone and less of a hassle. When in Rome, do as the Romans do.
Calling to any phone in Juarez from the US...011 52 656 XXX XXXX
From a pay phone in Juarez... 044 656 XXX XXXX
A 30 peso public phone card would be your best bet.
[quote]OK - so the number I have is 044-xxx-xxxx.
Now does that mean I have to dial:
011-52-656-044-xxx-xxxx or do I drop the 044.
It's a recently acquried cell number on her part.
[/quote]
No don't put the 044 calling from the US.
That is only when calling from a Mexican phone in Mexico.
Calling a cell phone from a Mexican pay phone is expensive, it will use up a tarjeta very rapidly, not sure what the per minute charge is but it's high, but cheaper than calling from an American cell phone.
The Villa Manport charges 7 pesos per minute to call a cell phone from the lobby.
OK - got it. Thanks for clearing that up.
And I would use a phone card and a Mexican payphone but those phones are hard to come by here in NV ;-)
Seriously tho' - while in Mex. that's a good idea and I'll remember that when I get there.
3 DAYS & counting
Following directions posted here previously, I traipsed on over to Genesis on a Wednesday afternoon.
There were only 3 or 4 girls there; the best was probably a 5. Maybe because it was a mid-week afternoon, that the "pickins" were slim.
I was surprised too that the guy said the price was $40 for an hour. He knew I didn't come in a taxi. I left.
Another option is to buy a long distance phone card here in the US to use with your cellular when in Juarez. Be sure it doesn't include a per call surcharge. I use $5.00 "caliente" cards. Good for about 20 minutes of time to call Mexico. Problem is if the person you are calling has a prepaid cellular, it will rapidly drain their ficha.
Someone in an earlier post asked about the MongerPaloozza this Saturdya. It will be the 24th of April, between 6 and 7pm at the Kentukey club on Juarez Avenue.
The Filthy one
Can someone post directions to Marilyn's? What does the place look like on the outside?
I had to get a taxi yesterday because I needed to be somewhere and didn't have a lot of time. The driver insisted on taking me to Masaje Venus even though I said I didn't plan on staying.
I tried to discourage the guy from following me in by saying I'll be right back. No such luck! He follows me in anyway. I absolutely hate that. Maybe next time I'll be a lot less subtle.
I barely start talking to whichever girl seemed to be in charge when the driver announces to the room that "he - meaning me of course - understands Spanish". Swell. In about 30 seconds the price went from $50 to $60 bucks for 45 minutes!
I expected it to be high on account of the taxi, but $60 - from what I read here - is ridiculous. That made it pretty easy to leave. It looked like a nice place though and the girls were nice too. Not nice enough to justify the price they wanted, but nice. Maybe sometime when I'm not dragging a driver behind me, I can return and see if the price is more reasonable. Anybody have any experience(s) with this place?
BW
To get to Marylin's from downtown, take Vincent Guerrero east to Montes de Oca, just like going to Genesis. From Montes de Oca, go south, instead of north, for about a mile until you hit Del Ejido. On Del Ejido, go right, until you hit 2900. Marylin is a fairly non-descript one story building on the corner of Del Ejido and a street whose name escapes me.
I don't know what you are doing but you are being charged about $10 more than the average person. There is a sign in the lobby of Genesis that indicates that the price is $300 pesos to which you could have pointed when the manager asked for $40.
Also, with regards to the taxi and Venus, you could have said that you were going to the Montana steak house next door and the driver would have left you. Don't even mention to a taxi driver that you are going to a massage parlor. After finishing your hour session in Venus, which should cost you only $40, you could have asked management to call a taxi to pick you up.
Mugroso:
Is "The Plan" still to meet up at Kentucky and then start at Las Palmeras and work up?
I'm still uncertain but pretty sure I would be found at Las Palmeras (still working on my strategy) but don't want to miss meeting up with you folks.
My gas gauge is on F & I pack as we speak.
[quote]To get to Marylin's from downtown, take Vincent Guerrero east to Montes de Oca, just like going to Genesis. From Montes de Oca, go south, instead of north, for about a mile until you hit Del Ejido. On Del Ejido, go right, until you hit 2900. Marylin is a fairly non-descript one story building on the corner of Del Ejido and a street whose name escapes me.
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Juan Escuita is that street.........the route I take is from Vicente G.
turn right on Juan Escuita, which is just before Montes de Oca, and go south until the street runs out, make a left and a quick right to where Juan Escuita picks back up go down to del Ejido and Marylins is right there, on the corner.
Hello,
I went to Venus on Wednesday afternoon and hookep up with Berenice. Nice looking girl about a 7 1/2. Here are some of the bad parts. I was quoted 50 and I told her the price was 40. She tells me she is going to check comes back less than a minute and said sorry you are right rate is 40. I pay her with pesos since one of the first things I learned here and it is 400. We get down to business and she said for BJ is 20 more. The hell with it just sex so we do and 10 minutes into it she tells me to hurry up. I was pissed. I did not even finish, it changed my mood completely. So I change and she becomes very nice again and I stick my hand in my pocket as if to tip her. I take my time and she starts bsing me that I was great and she could got out with me for 100 dollars for 1 1/2 hours to the hotel. She is still waiting for the tip. I tell her I'm taking too long to find the change and since you are in a hurry I will tip you next time. The hell with Berenice! Time to move on to another MP.
JD
JD,
I agree completely, upselling is a real turn off, the other place famous for that is El Encanto.
The best places I have found, and never had an upselling problem, are Marylins, Loryed, Genesis, and Corpus. Last trip I checked Parisio, they had a 200 peso special (ad in the paper), I stopped by about 7pm and was told 400, but asked about the ad, they said that was for 25 mins, but that was cool I was about 3/4 drunk and got a good fuck and a shower for $20. Not bad really, hit Marylins at noon, (Mariana $30), spent the day flirting with the girls downtown, then get laid again for $20, Juarez is cool.
Pink Ladies had some nice ones in the day tme, but all wanted $60+. Casa Colorada had a few, mostly heavy, I was quoted $40+. Club Lauras had a slender hottie, but this chick could not sit still, obviously strung out.
JD,
Thanks for posting that information about Venus. It helps a lot to know that sort of thing happens to others too.
SD,
Thanks very much for the details on Marilyn's. I may try again this weekend.
I will definitely take your advice on dealing with the taxi drivers. It makes perfect sense. In this case, I did not intend to go to any massage parlors; the driver insisted on showing it to me. Now I'll know not to waste the time.
Went to Casa Colorado last night. I think it was around 10 PM. I'm not sure because I was making a conscious effort not to check my watch. Anyway, it was fairly early. There were lots of girls, but no real stunners. Just the usual suspects. What struck me was that there were very, very few guys. I asked one of the girls about it and she said it was still early. But I'm not so sure.
I arrived at the Kentucky club and sat down towards the back near the "kitchen". I gave the place a good once over and boy the place was crowded, lots of chicas. I met one WSG poster there and we hung out till 7:30 when we gave up and headed to Las Palmeras. One the way we took a detour and went to Pachangas in the market area. We walked in scoped out the place went further into the bar saw nothing that wasnt' scary, found some stairs went up into another part of the bar which had no dancers but lots of people dancing. This place is a 2 in 1. We then walked out. What a waste of time. If anyone here likes fat ugly women I highly recommend this place.
Next, Las Palmeras. I have seen better nights and also worse nights. One chica, Paloma, was a real cutie till she started dancing naked. Some chicas look better with clothes on. I also noticed alot of chicas with tummy wreckage. Not a turn on. Next stop was the Montaña. Dead and only one decent chica, Diana. She played a game and ditched our table for another customer. The ugliest chica in the place got mad at me because I would'nt buy her the first fischa of the night and blamed me for her upcoming bad luck for the evening.
Walked into the Centro Lagunero with the fattest chicas in town and then Edurardo's followed by a stop at the Año Nuevo. Talked to Michelle for a bit and took some pics of her and Nelly. I got a pic of me and Nelly "kissing" and we left. Irmas was packed and we didn't stay. Noche y Dia was hopping, we saw the midget and I had to get a pic. I paid her 20 pesos.
We also walked into the Las Vegas, Hollywood, Virginias and Rancho Grande. Not much happening. On the way to Virginias Club Extranjero had guys outside barking and we checked it out. The chicas could have used dimmer lighting to enhance their beauty.
Next Queens Place. No MariLu which was a big disappointment. So which one of you fuckers fucked her on permiso? Please post. I saw on really hot chica, Yessinia. She is on the list. Headed to the Rancho Grande and we each met our hotties for the evening. The chica I met just may work out into a novia. I know I criticize people for falling and getting attached to chicas but maybe it is because I do the same stupid thing myself. At the end of the evening we exchanged numbers and we will see how things pan out. While talking the my chica ***** excused himself for the evening as he had a long ride ahead.
Inspite of missing out on the rest of those who wanted to participate I say the evening went pretty cool. It was great meeting at least one of you guys. As for identifying who I met, I choose not to name him. I will leave that up to him to do that and to let him give his version of things.
Next time maybe we can buy identical Tshirts (Got Laid?) so we can spot eachother better.
Laters,
The Filthy One
Just for the record, I've not experienced any upselling at Brenda's, Felina's or Sirena's. It's been awhile (too long!) since I've been down to CJ. Does Marilyn's and Sirena's still accept the discount coupons that Dreaming Eagle provided awhile back?
Just returned 4 days in Juarez. On arrival got to the hotel checked in and then head for fun. First spot was a club called Amadus this place was like a step down Jokers with high price drinks 10 usd. This was crazy so we left and went where we new the drinks prices where decent. Pink lady well hey they do not try to pimp the drink money and they do no when to back off. Had a girl she was about a 6 cbj, fs. Then she ran out of steam so we called it a night. Went back the next day and walked into this blonde that was about a 7 but when we got in the room she tried to get me for more money to suck my dick. Hell no I told her and then I told her I wanted my money back for here attempt at extortion. She proceed to give me a bbbj then cap it and I fuc the shit out her for the attempt to get more money. Hey guys one quick note do not pay after you have already made the deal no more than 60 bucks. These girls where a little spoiled. Had to leave went to go get cleaned up before the night shift. Went back that evening and had a regular whom I seen before she was a little upset because everytime I seen her I was with another girl oh well that is how the game works you no. Took sylivia this time she is a 6 in the face and a 9 in the ass and can fuck like a race horse. Man she baught me a nice leather walet and gave me a picture of her with words saying luv and all . My buddy said that if he was not there he would not have believed me he has never seen a working girl in Mex bring gifts to a customer. I said this is a first. One thing I notice is that they were trying to get us to take the girls back to our hotels for 200 usd I said no here is fine for 60. Well this was about it hit up amp in Arizona on the way back check Phoneix for that report.
There's a new massage parlor on 16 de Septiembre called Luxxor. I think the owner said it had been open for a couple of months, but they still had their grand opening stuff going on this past weekend.
So, if there have been posts on this before, my apologies. Here are my impressions.
First of all, you can't miss the place. It is right on the main drag and not too far down. I think it is around the intersection with Costa Rica or Peru streets. Parking looks good.
I just happened to see the place on my way home so I thought I would take a look inside. Only one girl; a 20-year old who was about a 7 I'd say. The others were busy.
But, I got a tour and it is super, super clean by Juarez standards. (Not that I am an expert.) A little on the pricey side; they wanted $35 for 45 minutes or so.
Bachelor Warrior:
How did you like the porno movies underneath the massage tables? When I went there, there were only 3 girls working at the time, and this was at about 11:00 a.m.
The girl who went in the room with me told me that there were about a total of 10 different women there working, so I will have to check it out in the afternnon.
I agree with you that it is a fairly clean place and their location is not bad. I was able to walk from the Stanton Bridge to there in less than half an hour, which was good considering my plane was leaving that afternoon, so if one is in a hurry to partake in a Juarez massage parlor before leaving the metro area, this is a good place as any.
By the way, I was charged only 300 pesos for an hour, although their sign in the lobby did say 350 pesos, so I did not bother arguing with them.
Mugroso, My apologies for missing the mongerlooza. Due to a particularily vexing problem in Juarez, namely Number Two, I spent way too juch friggin time trying to talk her back into reality. After an unsuccessful hour at it, I gave up, left and went to Panama, then Irma's, and finally Dia Y Noche.
I was sitting at the first table on the left at the bar there, WITH the midget and her hot "sister". The sister ,who's name totally escapes me, has a tight little ass, nice breasts and these rail like legs, and is a knockout. I had Mexicanos high fiving me as they walked by the table while she was lapdancing me. Didn't take her out, she had no ID on her, and I just couldn't be sure that she was legal.
Sunday nite after all the fireworks were over , I went to Queens and sat with a girl who is a dark haired Christy Brinkley ,and I think that was Yessinia (Chino told me her name is Juanita). Actually, I sat , drank, danced , sang, DATY, and fucked, to be more accurate. She was worth every dollar I gave her.
DON"T DON"T DON"T try the novia thing. It doesn't work. One unbelievably beautiful girl who used to work at Panama , told me directly "you are looking for a girlfriend, for free sex, and you won't find it here!", and not in a kindly way either. Now Number Two and I are done. The bar girls are just that..bar girls, and nothing will change that for many of them, not even the possibility of a better life away from there.
Venus and El Encanto upsells. However I must say that Lorena at El Encanto is muy fuerte!
On a cheerier note, Marilyns still accepts the coupons. And Mariana was the lucky recipient of a few of them.
RearWindow
Yessenia is a hottie. How much was she and do you think she is available for premiso (BarFine)? I must have this woman. Even if MariLu sees me with her it will be worth it and I'm sure she will get over it. I am too sweet.
The Filthy One
The strip joint scene:
Anybody else have tried to take a gril our from the strip joints in Juarez? Do you guys remember the current lap dance rate. I know it used to 15 dollars at Phantoms. Might go down to Horizonte and the Strip joints on Thursday night. Last week I also went to Phantoms and Amadeus. Phantoms only had two good looking girls and Amadeus three.
JD
BTW, I have confimation from numerous sources that Marilu does indeed have seven ninos. They swear that she didn't steal them.
I was the other one at the palooza, and agree with Mugroso's report. Diana at Montana is was hot. A great lap dance for a $5 drink. It pissed me off she ditched us. I wanted to take her to the room (still do, so maybe I'll get over being pissed). She had some of the softest fur I've ever felt.
Next time I hope we get more members there.
Attached is a map to Luxxor from their flyer. There's a few cute ones there.
Hated to miss it also but was freezing my ass off in Winnipeg unexpectedly! Maybe next time.
Assuming this Yessinia is the girl I was with (tall , jet black hair, curves in all the right places, and a bit standoffish ie tends to sit by herself) she was $60 for 1/2 hour. Never asked about her salida, I would imagine it is high, given her looks. She is a hottie.
Juarez Defender,
Where is Horizonte? Is it a bar or MP?
I went to Montana based on the report that Diana was hot, and to my surprise there are 2 Dianas, both of them pretty decent. Diana #1 has bigger tits, and is a little more curvy (also seemed nicer) but Diana #2 has the tight little body.
I took Diana #2 to a room above the Año Nuevo and she was really good, if a bit rushed. Still very well worth it, $45 total for half an hour. She says she's 22 and has 2 kids. If you like petite girls who have no body fat, she's a real good choice. Great ass!
Also went by Sirenas, and there is a girl there who I have to recommend to you guys, her name is Wendy. She said that she is 20 and is short with nice curves. When she got on top of me though and I really got ahold of her I noticed that she has a real hard little body. Not little like Diana, but no fat, very tight muscle on this girl. Wow, it felt great. Wendy wasn't in any kind of rush, and we had a real nice time.
So if you like the hard little bodies, my friends, these are two of my recommendations.
just returned saturday nite from a week in borderland.
tried to leave vegas thursday nite but couldn't until late friday. stopped at a friend's in phoenix for a pit stop and it was downhill from there. didn't get back on the road until 10:30 sat morn! as i flew thru deming at 2:45 i realized that i was making my best time yet for these trips. no way i was going to get there early but easily would make kentucky at 7pm. until 3:15 when i found the border patrol detouring all the traffic on i-10 eastbound. long to short: i-10 was closed due to a rollover that ended with a tractor-trailer slamming into it & bursting it into flames, killing 2 and airlifting 1 out. back 30+ miles to deming, over to hatch (6pm)and down to anthony, tx got me in the hotel and on my way to the bridge at 8:15 - wait! it's really 9:15 with the time change (duh!). so much for "mongerpalooza"!
eyeballed kentucky - crowded. head to las palmeros. three doors down i hear my name yelled out. it's erica. a extra large crazy chick who likes to cry a lot for any & no reason. i say crazy as in "needs therapy". hard to shake her. get in finaly and ask izella if she saw a bunch of suave looking, fun loving gringos. she says no. my goodness - rosario is back. she left to have a baby. thick around the middle but an ok chica. i remember her to have good oral skills 2 years ago. what has happened to this place?!!! not one decent thing in there.
i went back there on thursday and there were 3 or 4 young, nicely shaped cuties there. one was a knockout (to me) petite, pretty moreno and i forgot her name. had to listen to this jealosy crap from my friend izella so i think this place is getting scratched by me.
"hey - you - mucho h0mbres, no?"
"eez my eyob!"
"well - eez my hobby!"
sheesh! but she does have a great looking 29 year old daughter...
peeked into virginias and, hanging out with the big legged short-haired older woman is some big blonde who says "hey!" and pulls out her giant left tittie. nice greeting. anyway end up at queens and end up with corina for 60 for what she says will be an hour. 20 minutes into a very boring session the knock comes. i don't think i could've endured an hour of her anyway. i found her boring and inept.
end up at ano nuevo (1st time there) and some little roundish fireplug comes up sticks her tittie in my mouth and my hand down her pants and hers down mine. it's almost closing time and i'm still pissed from the drive in. i laugh at her $50 offer. but for 30 we end up in some ave juarez hotel for a few hours and i exercise my aggrevations. fun little bounce around type chica. fit my needs at the moment. she, naturaly, kept trying to get more $ but a simple, smiley no ended it. easy to get along with - kind of fun and it cleared my system as it were.
i brought a little voice recorder so i could daytime wander and "map" my journey. very handy and will be helpful for an updated map.
noche y dia i never looked in before and never knew what it was. since reading all the posts here i was able to look into a lot of joints that i never thought of before. club laura's i checked after reading where it was. i've seen it before but didn't know "club l" was club laura with a broken light. a quick daytime beer and i left. cute little & round bartender and some skanky cranky looking broad hanging with her. i peeked back in again twice later thru the week and it was dead both times. sans souci had girls lined up at the full length of the bar and at the end was angie. i turned and left. there were other places, other chicas and 7 or 8 trips over the bridge. still a bit of a blur.
overall the whole trip was not what i hoped for. marred by the i-10 closure, being burnt out from aggrevation from that and sleeping sunday away because of it resulted in no bullfights for me. the constant wind storms gave me some bad sore throats. but i did get the 2 swords that i wanted for my living room from a shop on ave juarez, the needed medicines for home, dropped quite a few nuts here & there, expanded my monger map info, learned more about customs and bring back stuff. i wanted to get back in time for the derby but didn't. i think i would've liked to see the cinco de mayo madness in juarez.
customs: i had asked once about bringing back 2 swords. one officer told me that they end up chopping them up. this trip i asked again but with the reference to shipping them. this officer said "why not just walk them across?" huh? i ended up in the supervisor's office and was told that as long as i don't come in with a threatening manner (ala highlander?) i would have no problems. his actual advise was to walk in holding them by the hilt, blade up. instantly the scene from the blues brothers movie came to mind. in the tax office when hundreds of weapons click to the ready for jake & elwood. i thought better against it. also any basic type meds (antibiotics, etc) that aren't of a controlled substance nature (valium, vicodan, etc) i would have no problem with. a basic "60 day supply". all that brow sweating "smuggling" was for nothing? damn. next day i bought my swords had them wrapped in heavy paper with the points wrapped, about $200 of needed meds (diverticulosis is a drag), and headed to the border. i declared, he looked in the med bag, i explained what they were all for, and he told me to just run the sword package thru the x-ray box. watching the screener, i was hoping to see his eyebrows raise up. he just slowly looked up at me and said, "looks like you're getting ready to do battle! have a nice day". all those times stuffing my pockets and sticking meds here & there flashed back to me and were met with a smirky "stupido" in my mind.
meds: the second farmacia after the bridge on the right side of ave juarez is "national". edgar has viagra there for 13.50 us. a 100mg with a 50mg taped to it. comes to $9/100mg. he also runs specials on different "household" meds. ampicillan, rantitidine, etc. this guy is very helpful and a nice guy. he's off on tuesdays and works until 4pm most of the time. sometimes later. if you do go to see him tell him pat from vegas sent you.
i also spent one day driving up to elephant butte. man, i thought lake mead was dry. housing in las cruces is pricing up and building quickly. i'm burnt out on juarez right now only because of this last drive. this 750 mile one way trip turned into 2400 miles total. i gotta move...
sorry that i was unable to meet up with anyone and sorry to hear that i wasn't alone in botched plans.
maybe next time.
RearWindow,
I hear you man about persuing relationships with chicas. But inspite of it I went to Juarez yesterday afternoon and called her cell phone. Well, turns out the number is correct and I invited her to dinner. She showed up 45 minutes after the phone call. We went to a steak house on Hermanos Escobar. It was nice and around 5ish she said she had to go to work. Fine with me, I have a job too. (but I'm off weekends) I dropped her off and she didn't hit me up for cash and had a nice make out kiss goodbye.
I am not sure how far this will go but who knows. It is always cool to get what others pay for.
Clydesdale,
Horizonte is a bar near Garibaldis don't touch on Triunfo de la Republica. Its been a long time since I have been there.
The Filthy One
Mugroso, I wish you all the luck in the world with her. I have had a real mixed bag with the women there. One would think that the ladies would take a real serious look at an Americano who treats them right, and is genuinely interested, but I now have no idea what they really think about "us".
Interestingly, Number Two NEVER asked me for a penny in all these months, and yet, it still didn't work. Que sera , sera. That song makes a lot more sense now. ;)
Cienega32,
I'm beginning to think that weekend was out of the proper moon phases, or too close to Cinco de Mayo or something, cause everybody's weekend in Juarez was screwed up.
This last trip , I was seriously thinking that I would just not go back, and then I fucked Yessinia and my "faith" in CJ was restored. Viva la midget,too!
Guys,
I wouldn't consider the weekend fucked up. Things just didn't go exactly as planned. I met ClydesDale, you guys went to new places which was the point of the palozza. Maybe next time we can plan things out better.
The Filthy One
Tell me about the midget. For real? How tall? Anyone take her out? Never had a midget.
For sure about the moon phase thing. Knew it the minute I saw the I-10 closure. I even ended up with a bad haircut from my regularly reliable Canutillo barber!
Tho' I was able to pull little things out of it all: my swords & meds. And in the end Izella ain't much and she's older but she does like to take care of me. Stayed the nite one day and she was nice in the morning with bathing me & putting the lotion on me. Of course she was a bit bowlegged that morning as well! It runs me some chica drinks but what the hell - I like being pampered. Of course it would've been nicer with one of the young hotties but the price is right and we know each other. I wonder if there's a way I can talk her into letting me "know" her daughter better.
I am one to try and find the brighter side of life so even tho' the trip wasn't that good it did have some good aspects albeit not many. 2 trips in a month from 750 miles away - I need a breather.
Her name is Rosa, and she is three feet tall and some change, I am guessing. Not unattractive, and She also dances like the rest of the girls, and is quite popular with the patrons, although I am sure that is from the overall strangeness of it. It crossed my mind to ask about her for a split second while I was sitting with her and "sis", but her "sister" was so hot that I dismissed that little thought ( sorry..bad pun) fairly quickly.
In hindsight, I guess the weekend went as many do in Juarez, one never knows what to expect. I did manage to give Number Two a memorable b-day, which was my original plan.
Just came back after a visit to Juarez for 5 days. Stayed at Holiday Inn Lincoln. Nice hotel with buffet breakfast.
Went to few topless clubs. Never saw anybody who makes my heart race with anticipation. It is my observation that 90 percent of the working girls are in their late twenties or in their thirties.
I have travelled to many places to monger. Usually I find young and attractive girls. But Juarez, I was really dissapointed. This is my first time there. So maybe I am not going to the right places.
Please set me straight that imho juarez working girls are old.
I am used to young and vivacious girls in Costa Rica, Dom Republic, Panama, Columbia, Thailand, Philippines, etc.
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Does anyone have some knowledge of a decent apartment or condo in Juarez that one could rent for a month or two?
I want something that is up to American standards. Is this possible to find in the $700-800 dollar price range?
Anyone have a link or contact please let me know!
Look in the local Juarez newspaper, always something for rent.
xxx.diario.com.mx/ is the link....you know what to do with the x's
There are more than a few apts on the east side that are in your price range. But , why pay that much for a month or so? It makes little sense to spend that much money for short time housing. Unless you need a jacuzzi, dual baths, blah,blah, . I like my creature comforts, but in Juarez, I find them in the chicas.
Anyway, the East side has the newest construction with secure grounds in most cases.
If any of you are planning to establish a fan club for Mariana of Marilyn's, please sign me up. She's a real gem!
A few months ago, our friend DreamingEagle posted a photo of Marilyn's. The post referenced was on 12-09-03, currently on Page 24 of this forum. Since the photo was taken, the building has been repainted. It is still the same light green, but the name "Marilyn's" and the large street numbers "2900" have been removed. This was necessary to keep the nature of the business somewhat discreet. From the corner of Montes de Oca and Del Ejido, just walk a block or two west on Del Ejido to 2900. A couple of taps on the locked door should be sufficient to "do the trick".
Clomonger,
"If any of you are planning to establish a fan club for Mariana of Marilyn's, please sign me up. She's a real gem!"
I went there for her last week, but she wasn't in, so I took Joanna. I may have a new favorite now. She's just as cute as Mariana, but very enthusiastic. She does an outstanding BJ. I'll have to try her again (just for quality control purposes of course).
Great ....A FAN club..;( Now I'll need to make my appointments MONTHS in advance with Mariana.
It's funny, I find her to be the most relaxing MP girl that I have met there. And not just from a physical aspect. No upselling, is friendly, polite, and gentle. I can't get enough of her, for some reason.
You guys would all like Lorena at El Encanto better. Really. Just go THERE. ;)
Hey Rearwindow,
Are these MPs w/in walk distance from "old town"? I've read thru the bus advice and see me getting off somewhere in Zaragosa.
Also any advice about driving in and parking at one of the hotels - say Manport?
Look at me - as tired as I am from these last two trips here I am planning the next one!
Speaking of customs, I always seem to get the full treatment driving back to the states whenever I mention I went to the MP's. They always open the trunk, bang their baton all over the car, and ask a bunch of stupid questions. The last time it was a female agent and I think she took it personally. My car is starting to age, and I was afraid something was going to fall off when she was banging away, presumably looking for some stash.
Does anyone have similar experiences? I think I'll have to "get" a Mexican girlfriend, because I didn't seem to have these problems when I said I was on a date which was true at the time (I hate to lie or I would use that each time).
Anyway, after thinking over that experience, I think we have to make a case to the feds that the US can't fight two wars at once. Right now, we should just legalize drugs and concentrate one the war on terrorism. At least that way the agents won't have an excuse for hassling us on the way back.
Crespo, just out of curiosity, why would you volunteer that you have been visiting the MPs to customs?? And knowing what cunts American women can be in general, especially when you fess up to having been down there fucking Mexican women, why would you say this to a female customs officer??
If you want to see how big an asshole a person REALLY is, just give them a little power and then watch them to see how badly they abuse it. Fuck those Nazi bastards, all they are entitled to know is that you are an American citizen and that you can prove it. You can take the 5th on any other question they can ask you. Now, if you have a car to get back across the border you may be opening a can of worms by doing something as brazen as suggesting that you actually have constitutional rights, but if you are on foot or on a bicycle and aren't in possession of any contraband there really isn't jack shit they can do.
But I take pleasure in knowing that while they were wasting their time fucking with ME someone probably made it across the border with a trunk full of pot. :-D One way or another, whether I am hassled by customs or not, I always come back with a big smile on my face. ;^)
Cienega, most of the MPs are a pretty fair stroll from El Centro. Even Luxxor, from the map I have seen, is a pretty good little hop skip and jump.
But, there are several within easy walking distance of the Villa Manport. Not the Manport, it is in El Centro practially next door to the old Pink Lady's location. But they are part of the same group, for more info check out http://www.hotelesmanport.com/ . Their website kind of sucks, it needs some work. Perhaps DE will offer his services. ;^)
Personally I don't drive across the border, what with the insurance requirements and hassles with la policia and all. I park at the airport and take the bus to downtown EP. From there I hoof it across and ride the busses and/or bike while in Mexico. It takes a little learning as they don't publish routes, but it is simple enough to sort out the routes you need to know for mongering and shopping. If you must, take a cab to the Villa Manport, just make sure you get a cabbie down by the Cathedral and not right at the border as the ones at the border will scalp you on the price. Staying in Mexico while on your vacation saves you all the hassles of crossing back and forth every day, and it's cheaper.
I also walk across, as I prefer not to hassle with the insurance and/or putting my vehicle at risk.
When asked, "What were you doing in Mexico?" on the way back, I always reply that I was visiting a friend. Never mind that the friend is of the opposite sex, less than half my age and works in an MP!
At first, I'd tell 'em I was shopping, but then they always wanted to see what I'd bought. I found it difficult to show 'em the piece of ass that I'd purchased.
I've driven over a few times and put quite a few miles on driving thru the western residential areas. Outside of a pothole or two that a cow could've lived in I never had problems. But when mongering I prefer the walk over of course. What I'm wondering is why do I book a US hotel when I spend the time over the border.
One time I would like to be able to just stumble back to the room and be where I left off the next morning. Also to have a place to bring a guest (without paying for two rooms at once) if the need presented itself. Driving around wouldn't be part of the formula-it would stay parked-which is why I inquired about the better parking hotels. I tend to pack a lot of crap so I don't really want to hassle with walking that to or from a park in US lot that when I come or go. Better to just load the car and go.
An easy way to get around the hassles with the Border Cops is to tell them that you've been at the dentist. Of course this only works during the day. It's a very common thing for Americans to get their dental care in J-town where some dentists are of equal quality at a fraction of costs in the USA. I've never even been asked which dentist, but I would just say on Americas where there are like 20 dental clinics.
Had to open the trunk a few times, but that's about the extent of the inquisition. YMMV, but for me, it works like a charm.
Cienega,
The only one in el centro is Cleopatra's ,which is a few streets south on the left, next to a dentists office.
All the rest are quite a distance away. If you're already driving in , you might as well just drive to them, unless you want more exercise AFTER your session. And as Dougie says, Luxxor is a long way from the cathedral by foot. Probably 15 blocks.
I have walked from Marilyn to El Herradero Steakhouse on Escobar after a session, but I won't try that stunt too many more times.
BTW, I booked my hotel for the 4th of July weekend (actually 3-6). I am a glutton for punishment.
Cleo's I posted a small review on a while back. I would end my daytime tourist runs there.
As far as border-crossing - I just tell them I was being a tourist or I was checking out the nite life. After hours crossing I usually small talk with 1 or 2 of the guys. But that's on the walk thru. I've stopped and watched the drive thru procedures last trip and it seems that they are checking a lot closer than they used to. Every trunk popped, many hoods popped, mirror checks, thumper checks, etc. None of which were limited to any one plate origin or vehicle type. They've been using the xray box inside as well. I never seen them use that before on any of my trips. Also had the bag check table in full use.
Cienega,
I misunderstood a bit. I see what you're asking. Hotel Villa Manport on Escobar is fairly centrally located, but no secure parking, but within walking distance of 4 MP's (one next door and another across the street.) In fact if you stay in the zona pronaf around Lincoln , all four are still within walking distance, which is where I stay/am staying.
I just noticed a hotel on Las Americas that looks like it has secure parking, but I don't remember the name. It's on the left as you go south, before Pollo Loco restaurant. Kind of a horseshoe shaped place, gray building, I believe. There is another across the street as well from it. If you know where Michelle's MP is on Las Americas, the hotels are just past there. If you don't know, it is on the right, in a small complex, and has a rather low key sign on the road.
Sorry to be so vague, I notice these places , but don't remember them specifically, and someone always asks a question later that jogs my chica fogged memory.
RearWindow said "I have walked from Marilyn to El Herradero Steakhouse on Escobar after a session, but I won't try that stunt too many more times".
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RearWindow, how did you accomplish a feat like that?? Back in the 80's I went to the old Lago Blanco (White Lake) and got banged my some chica named Olivia. She was an enthusiastic hot piece of ass. She showed me just how boring my wife (now ex-wife) was. I could barely walk back to my car parked on the other side. I have been to Herraderos and I have been to Marilyns. My mental map tells me that is not a walk I want to do even without having sex.
The Filthy One
Oh yeah, when I posted last I forgot to tell you guys about a terrific time that I had at the Luxxor. There's a girl there who I like named Vanessa (probably 30-32 y.o.) but she has a real nice, petite body. So I go there last Saturday and the girl who answers the door is one who I hadn't seen before named Ana, also kind of short, dark hair and green eyes. Well, Ana is a little hottie, she just had the prettiest face, but I have always had Vanessa since I started going there and didn't want mess up that good thing for a massage with someone new.
But the girls tell me "Hay oferta de dos for 500", there's a special, 2 girls for 50 bucks. Perfect. I take Vanessa, my regular, and Ana the pretty new girl. Inside they give me a real sexy massage and it's all smiles and good times. Ana gives me a nice CBJ then Vanessa gets on top and rides me while Ana massages my chest. Finally, we swap positions and I get Vanessa doggie style while Ana massaged my back and balls and WOW! They just about sent me to the moon.
I guess that the way the "oferta" works is one girl gives you oral and the other gives you FS which was fine by me. Both girls are very cute and it was the best fifty bucks I have ever spent. YMMV, but I'll definitely be back for another ride on that merry-go-round.
One of the best times I have ever had in a JZ massage parlor.
Hotel Villa Manport does have secured parking.
They have a cabana set of rooms across the street behind Serina's massage parlour.
Just ask to park your car there, and they will always say yes.
It's guarded 24 hours a day.
You don't even need to ask to park at the Cabañas, just go there they will let you in no problem.
However, I do know a guy that had his car broken into over there.
None the less, that's where I always stay when in Juarez.
Hello Guys,
I'll be going to Juarez in June, could you suggest some places to check out for some loving that are close to the S.F. bridge? Their locations? The cost? The room?Anything else that I should know?
Could you give me some suggestions on some strip clubs that might be near by?
Thanks
Merlin
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Dude,
Sorry to say this but RTFF! All the info you need are at your fingertips.
Sun Devil,
I'm glad you got to that one before I did, cause I would have sent him WAAY out of the way. I'm not feeling very charitable today.
Has anyone recently asked about getting an MP girl out of there for a day or overnite? OK, I'm transparent...You know who I am referring to. Is it impossible? Can this be done? or is that totally up to the chica? Sergio is a good man, but I am reluctant to ask him directly, as it impacts his bottom line (NPI). Any insights are welcome.
Rear Window... My experience with the MP's have been the girls all work the 9-5 and go home to families, novios etc and are not up to take out or overnighters. They put themselves above the girls in the bars even though they're doing the exact same thing for less money and more time.
My advice to you if you have your eye on one and she is mutually interested is to work a deal for after she gets off. Your choice though.
I believe Borderjumper to be correct, generally. Most girls work MP's cause they don't want to be associated with the bars downtown, but I have known girls that did both, MP daytime and bar at night. Two girls were working Genesis another Corpus. All three were in the Casa Colorada.
I have also had inquiries, about where I was staying, from a couple my regular MP girls, I think they are, or were anyway, interested in after hours work, but due to my situation, I am unable to pursue that.
Also, there exists a fear, among girls in Juarez, about being out after dark alone if they live far from el centro.
I would not hesitate to ask any MP girl about after hours work, even overnighters, after she gets comfortable with you, they all need the money, that's why they are there.
Thanks bbond and BorderJumper for the advice. I'll think that one over. I know so much about her that I am wondering if that is possible.
Curiously, if anyone can even guess, why are the MP's a less stigmatized "occupation" as compared to the bars? My first guess would be that the johns come to the girls in the MP's so they are not "soliciting" like the bar girls. At times, I think I have a grasp of what is going on there, and then something happens that makes me realize I have no clue whatsoever.
Rear Window, my guess is that the MP is a much more discrete environment. It's the better place to work if you don't want everyone knowing your business. Like if you are telling everyone you are still working at the maquila.
I guess I'll give a little trip report since I'm here. Spent a couple days this week in el centro. Tuesday day at the Panama. Almost empty, but they called Claudia over for me. She's a striking blond beauty with a killer body who I knew from a while back. Nice girl, very accomodating and highly recommended.
Wednesday noonish woke up and called a non-pro I had spent the prev. evening with. No answer, so I decided to visit the Cleopatra MP. Can't beat the location, on Ignacio Mejia near Juarez Ave. Only 4 girls to pick from. Picked Wendy, and man, did I get lucky. Turns out it was her first day and first job. Recently divorced with 2 kids, it was believable. Very nice massage, some small talk, and a few laughs. Cute morena and a really sweet girl. Afterwards, she asked when I was coming back. I felt like telling her I would be back in a few hours...lol.
That night I hit the Colorada and it was rocking. Jenni approached me and she was just my type. Really cute, dressed conservatively and only 22. We talked a little and then took off to the room. Another morena, she was one of the sweetest pro's I've ever been with. She said she had been there 2 months and also worked in the market during the day. If I had met her in the market and not a cathouse I would be in love. Highly recommended.
There were a couple more, but not worth noting. I did stop in the New Pink Lady Tuesday night and it was almost full with girls and mongers. I normally don't post about specific girls on here, but my visits to Juarez are so sporadic these days that it doesn't really matter if everyone on here bangs my girlies. I just hope in 2 months when I go back, they have had enough, made their money, and moved on to better lives....peace.....BR.
Thanks BR.
This will be a blast from the past.
Did anyone besides me do Becky at Panama? Rubia, VERY standoffish, but unbelievably beautiful. Spoke good english. She was another near GFE in el centro, but is now gone,with no forwarding address. Well actually I think I know where she is, but it's quite a ways from CJ.
Border Rats Panama reset brought that one back. Man , she was a head case sometimes, but others....yipes. I actually have video of her dancing there. She was so beautiful it took me three trips to screw up the courage to talk to her, let alone hit a room. Stunning woman.
Dougie, I started saying I was getting a massage to the border guards at the suggestion from one of our esteemed colleagues. He said there's little point beating around the bush.
One time I did get a curious response from one of the guards. When I told him I went for a massage, he said "Oh, so how much did that cost?" :)
That's interesting, Crespo. I suspect that if you had said "$15" or "$60", the guard would have asked a lot more questions, since those figures are outside the norm for a CJ MP.
I also wanted to thank you for making maps available of CJ. I printed out a set many months ago, and still carry them with me when I venture south of the border. For those of you who would like maps, refer to Crespo's posting in the 2002 Juarez section. Go to page 7, scroll down to 9-29-02 and follow the links. The maps, coupled with location information on this board, have been extremely helpful.
Dougie, I can't remember if I told you this via pm or not, but noone has schedules for the bullfights. They seem to be on a short announcement basis, feches on placards at Mercado Juarez etc.
Hi gang,
I have been lurking here, and am now doign business trips to Juarez. While I am there, I normally stay at the Holiday Inn Express there in Juarez, not far from the border.
Any tips on where to go, or who to call, for some good action? I usually am alone, so I need some advice on where it is safe to go and have a good time. Or am certainly willing to call for company for the evening.
Thanks
Guys,
I am on the verge of starting a Juarez mongering oriented website. I considered calling it marilu dot com and ffeature other chicas but make Marilu the star. Any suggestions on what to call it? All help is appreciated.
The Filthy One
Mugroso call it www.juarezmensguide.com
Hmmm..check my pm to you. Not so sure about that. For reasons explained there.
Hi,
I will be in Ciudad Juarez in a couple of weeks. Is it possible to go to a pharmacy and acquire Viagra or one of the other boosters without a prescription and what are the prices like possible?
Also, what is your favorite MP or is there a safe place like a playhouse available?
Thank you - Rockhunter
Rockhunter,
If you go over the Santa Fe bridge you'll see a "National" Farmacia. Hector (speaks great English) has them for 13.50 for a 100mg with a free 50mg taped to the side. I don't know how the prices are but I thought this was good at $9/100mg.
No script needed just walk in and ask.
See some earlier posts from myself and others about it.
Rockhunter,
You can get ANYTHING in Juarez w/o a script, probably including surgery IF you have cash. I believe the V is 15US per 100mg. As far as the Mp question, If you have at favorite girl at one, then that's your favorite MP for that moment. These things all change. Not sure about a playhouse, unless you mean bordello, brothel etc... there are a few in Juarez.
And I can't believe I'm saying this now...RTFF. Alot of this stuff was a page or two or three back.
Buena Suerte.
Blueman1971 has been reading the forum,apparently! Well done!
But, with all due respects, tho, another name might be appropriate. Don't ask me for ideas, I am as yet a Marilu virgin.
Dear RearWindow and other friends,
Thank you for the info/advice, once I understood what RTFF meant, and did so, I understand all. Since I do not hablo espanol, this could be a challenge. I did find a web site at:
http://www.clubpanama.com/
for Club Panama. I guess if my language skills fail me, I can sign with my hands. My game plan is to park in El Paso, walk across the border, troll in daylight hours and take small bills and protection with me. Anything else I need to do/bring/know?
Thanks - Rockhunter
Not quite true about the no script for anything, Rearwindow. Seems that anything that would be considered a "controlled substance" you would need a script. Valium, Percacet, Vicodan, etc. My favorite lower back pain med - Somacid was just yanked from the shelves of the over the counter only providers (such as National) a month or two ago. With reimbursement from the suppliers. Some farmacias are strictly no script type joints and others are full service.
When you realize all the things that are available in the no script joints that require a script in the US it really kicks in what a cash cow the US health system is. My last trip there I ended up with $150 or so of meds. Of the bag full of stuff 2 bottles of a particular med cost me much less than 1 bottle did in the states with insurance. In fact that 1 bottle cost me $80.
But basicaly - anything that's not considered a controlled substance or heavy narcotic is like buying chewing gum. Some of the farmacias will hawk at you while you walk past "Viagra, amigo! Cheap!"
I again have to plug Edgar at Farmicia National for the Viagra - 100mg+50mg=$13.54. $9 per 100mg. Edgar also provided me with the info about the script meds.
Until I get there and make a report, here are a few repoorts from of others with good details and directions:
http://www.sexatlas.com/wsg/Juarez.txt.php
Rockhunter,
You'll get by alright without spanish, but it is a lot more fun if you know some. The girls are certainly better at nite if you are going "clubbing", I would suggest starting maybe around 6pm ,if you can, to look around in daylight, and then hop in and out of the clubs (bars) until you find somewhere/someone you like.
My one other suggestion to you would be to politely avoid the guys who will offer to take you around el centro. They speak excellent english,so you'll be able to pick them out. Actually, when I say avoid, I would mean don't have them show you around. Just drives up your cost. They are a wealth of knowledge however, and I have gotten to know a few of them over the last year that I semi - trust for info. But for a newbie, I wouldn't recommend them.
lo siento, I wasn't thinking about controlled substances in my comments. They are obviously a different subject (legally anyway).
Oh no. Terrible news to report. According to sources the queen of Queens may be no more. I have been told that Marilu hasn't been to work in quite a while. Maybe someone decided they were man enough to support her and her 7 kids. What a sad loss.
But as things go in the zona a replacement is not far behind. There is Yessenia who I scoped out last night. She seems to becoming the favorite there. The closer it got to closing time she was sitting with coworkers but damn she looked fine. There was some big humungous swine named Perla, (not Janet's friend)she is new to me. She sat on my lap and almost bokem my legs. When she finally got off of me I had to take gulps of air to catch up on my breathing.
There is also a new little shorty named Esmerelda. She is just barely taller than the midget and is as cute as can be. I must nail this one soon. She may be game for a freebie. Let me break it down. When I first saw her I asked Pancho to introduce us and boy was she rude. She hardly looked my way and darted off at the first chance. Well when the lights came on I started heading out she approached me and guided me to a back table and sat us down. We started talking about how it was her second day and that her sister works there, blah, blah, blah. She didn't hit me up for a drink as it was near closing time. A little kissy kissy went on as well until a waitress led her away from me. Bummer, but just you wait. I'll be back a Queens soon.
The Filthy One
Jesus! Four people shot to death (two were innocent bystanders) at Hermanos Escobar and Lincoln couple of days ago, basically right where I stay. And now two more found in a burning SUV (ayer). Man, It's going to be a long hot summer in Juarez, I think. Federales think it is a drug war ramping up. Tenies cuidado.
Jesus! No Marilu?! I never got to do her!!!! I was going to post about mongerer songs, but i am now in mourning. This totally sucks.
No hay dios.
rockhunter..clubpanama.com has nothing at all to do with club panama in juarez. in 2001 it did but the operator of the site which lived in the apartment to the left of the panama's main entrance left town for points south with the federales hot on his heel. called hisself don juan. was supposed to have been an ex professor in the u.s. who went to mexico to dodge an arrest warrent for **** pussy.
he was hooked up with a street skank named janet who did live shows via a webcam every evening. but it all caught up to him
Mugroso,
What else but "Mugrositas.com". :)
It seems that all the girls at Panama are going to other places because the owner, Nieto, has sold the place to another individual, an American.
Indeed, two girls that I have intimately known there, Alexa and Olga, are now working at other places, the Pink Lady's and Casa, respectively.
Also a new place is opening where the old Princess Palace was located. This is a block in front of Casa on Martinez. Their sign indicated that they will be open in a few weeks.
I met a veteran monger at Casa Colorada over the weekend. He indicated to me that he has been mongering over Juarez for about eight years. He told me that the girls go in cycles, with new ones cropping up from the hinterlands of Mexico every 6 months because they have heard about the money to be made in the border cities.
In the meantime, the old timers leave because either they have saved enough money to open the restaurant/beauty shop/convenient store that they wanted in their home town, gotten married, or could not handle the mental stress that their jobs entailed. Indeed, there was a crop of new ones that I saw at Casa the other night.
I met one that had lived in Phoenix for a while but was recently deported. It was kind of cool talking about things in my hometown with a Mexican chick. It was unbelievable that she did not speak English, however, considering that she lived in the US for a number of years and could have learned the language to become something else other than a sex worker.
So I guess those who are searching for old favorite providers will have to establish new ones.
Sun Devil,
Princess Palace or do you mean Pasado Indio which shares the same city block as the Cave? That is good to hear if it is. But that place has had a strange history. It seems all of the previous owners died of one thing or another.
El Chavo
I like your suggestion which makes me now wonder, "am I really that vain"? Possibly so. what do you think of "mugrosos of Juarez punto com?
The Filthy One
Sun Devil: Is the problem with the American owner a matter of personal preferences or politics or does the new owner have a different agenda?
I think that if I had owned a joint down there I would pretty much keep things going the way they are and slowly ramp it up if needed.
I'm curious as to what would move the girls onward?
I have no idea why the girls are moving from Panama. Perhaps they are not just comfortable with a new owner, either foreign or domestic.
With regards to Pasado Indio, that is exactly where the place is. I think its new name is Princess Palace.
My best guess as to why the chicas are fleeing the Panama Club may offend some here. I suspect this new gringo owner is acting like a kid in a candy store. Can't blame him. I'd probably do the same thing. But perhaps and intersting thing to know would be, are the chicas leaving ugly or good looking. Maybe he is fireing the uglies.
The Filthy One
Guys; I was in Juarez Wednesday and Friday night also.
The deal with the Panama is this. Nieto didn't sell the place. He leased it out to these two gringos for "X" period of time while he lays low in El Paso for a while. Seems his sons were running it into the ground.
These new guys are from Iowa and intend to totally renovate the place. Apparently they've made a good start. Air coolers in all the rooms and new mattreses for the beds. Reupholstered the bar furnishings and perhaps most importantly to me, ran that fucking skank Sheila off.
Also, last night at the Petro Truck Stop, there was a van form the place offering FREE rides to the club and back. No obligation to buy anything. They are also offering a $20.00 all the beer and tequilla/mixed drinks you can drink for the evening. Might appeal to some of you boozhounds out there.
The reason the girls may be bailing is also the downside to all of this. Rumor as it that his non negotiable price is now $90.00 for 1/2 hour.
If there is an upside to it, it is that offering the "Free" rides is going to put the hurt on the other shuttle services in the area.
Interestingly enough, and bear in mind that Nieto is a total asshole, but nobodies fool. The contractual agreement he made with these two hayseeds was drawn up and executed by an attorney in El Paso and signed in El Paso. It has no bearing in Mexico. Nieto can apparently go in there with his Police buddies and run these rubes off at will which he will probably do once all the renovation are complete
Very, very astute analysis of what is going to go down at Club Panama, Border Jumper.
Americans who try to buy their way into the sex business in Mexico are fools who wind up getting fucked every time.
OK DreamingEagle,
now that you've run my newly found life goals into the ground.
Hello,
I've been soaking up the info from all 70 pages of the Juarez Forum for the last week or so. Thanks for laying all the groundwork (and the Chicas too) for me. I'll be heading for Juarez (gettin paid for it too) for a week soon, and hope to mix a little evening mongering with some tourist type stuff, chatting up the locals, etc. The hotel situation has been narrowed down to either the Villa Manport or the Holiday Inn Lincoln. I don't know if the HI is Chica friendly or not but it probably won't matter, as I plan on hitting up the MP circuit mostly. Are there more things to do within walking distance of the Holiday Inn? Nicer area?
The other question I have is: I don't seem to recall anyone mentioning renting a car while in Juarez. It seems to me to be as cheap as having taxis hauling me everywhere, plus a lot easier to explain on an expense report, rather than an extra 20 or so cab fares. Does anyone have info on car rental? Will a rental car be safe parked on the street while frequenting the MP's and bars away from Centro? Maybe someone knows where I can rent an '82 Volare?
I can sympathize with you guys that have tried out the Novia thing. It can get sticky in a lot of different ways. The steady panocha is nice, but it starts to feel like una espousa all too soon!
Any suggestions you might have will be appreciated. Thanks guys!!
Hello,
I've been soaking up the info from all 70 pages of the Juarez Forum for the last week or so. Thanks for laying all the groundwork (and the Chicas too) for me. I'll be heading for Juarez (gettin paid for it too) for a week soon, and hope to mix a little evening mongering with some tourist type stuff, chatting up the locals, etc. The hotel situation has been narrowed down to either the Villa Manport or the Holiday Inn Lincoln. I don't know if the HI is Chica friendly or not but it probably won't matter, as I plan on hitting up the MP circuit mostly. Are there more things to do within walking distance of the Holiday Inn? Nicer area?
The other question I have is: I don't seem to recall anyone mentioning renting a car while in Juarez. It seems to me to be as cheap as having taxis hauling me everywhere, plus a lot easier to explain on an expense report, rather than an extra 20 or so cab fares. Does anyone have info on car rental? Will a rental car be safe parked on the street while frequenting the MP's and bars away from Centro? Maybe someone knows where I can rent an '82 Volare?
I can sympathize with you guys that have tried out the Novia thing. It can get sticky in a lot of different ways. The steady panocha is nice, but it starts to feel like una espousa all too soon!
Any suggestions you might have will be appreciated. Thanks guys!!
I would like to find out more about Juarez strip clubs. I have been to Phantom and found it to be enjoyable yet somewhat expensive. Does anyone have an opinion about the best titty bars in Juarez? I always enjoy a little warm up viewing before getting down to serious business.
Any new ladies at Masaje Sirena?
Haven't been there in a while and may wnat to check it out if there are some new talent.
Thanks - Dave.
Is Massaje Encanto located down the street from Hotel Villa Mansport and Masaje Serina?
It's been a few months since I've crossed the border and am slightly confused.
I know Serina is across the street from Villa Mansport but which was was Encanto?
Thanks,
Dave
Cienega32,
If you are smart, you can be a pimp anywhere. Those gringos running the Panama will most definitely get screwed for the simple fact that they don't know how to deal with Mexicans. Their second mistake is trying to lease an established casa. They should have found out who they need to bribe and open their own casa.
Ahhh to only have a large room filled with bare titties and flowing beer taps.
Oh oh. Starting to feel another road trip coming on!
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Is Massaje Encanto located down the street from Hotel Villa Mansport and Masaje Serina?
It's been a few months since I've crossed the border and am slightly confused.
I know Serina is across the street from Villa Mansport but which was was Encanto?
Thanks,
Dave
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Yes, that is the place. Even has Visa/Mastercard stickers on the door.
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Is Massaje Encanto located down the street from Hotel Villa Mansport and Masaje Serina?
It's been a few months since I've crossed the border and am slightly confused.
I know Serina is across the street from Villa Mansport but which was was Encanto?
Thanks,
Dave
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Yes, that is the place. Even has Visa/Mastercard stickers on the door.
Which way do I walk from Villa Mansport? I think it was to the right.
If I keep walking if it on my right hand or left hand side?
Thanks again,
Dave
Hello Guys,
Where is the closest nicest place crossing the bridge to find some loving? Any suggestions? Directions? The cost?
Thanks,
Merlin P
Merlin P:
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Hi everybody,
It was my pleasure to visit Juarez for the first time last week. I'd like to thank everyone here for their tips, which made things quite easy.
I hit a cool sports bar on a Friday evening with my buddy. We paid $10 for a cab to the PRONAF area. I think the place was called Cananas? Anyway, the important thing was that we passed Hotel Manport and Encanto on the way there, which gave me a great opportunity to get oriented. Anyway, my buddy's not into the hobby, so we headed back to El Paso, where we were staying.
The following day I walked over the bridge from downtown EP and waited for a taxi tout to find me. Didn't take long. The first guy approached and I asked how much for the ride to VIlla Manport? Quince dolares. I laughed and left, and he then ran after me offering doce, diez. Forget it, amigo. I kept going and found a cool, old guy who offered the trip for $8 US. Bingo.
I remembered to ask to be dropped off at the Manport, so I headed in for a beer at the bar. It was dead, with the TV showing the SPanish royal wedding. I had a beer (15 pesos) and headed up the street to Encanto. I went up the stairs and the ladies came out to greet me. One was a gordita with a nice smile, the second very attractive and tall but looked bitchy, while the last one stayed in the corner and had a cute grin. I asked her name, she replied "Perla" and that rang a bell. I inquired about the price - 300 pesos- and off we went.
Well, once she disrobed and displayed all the tattoos, I wasn't too psyched, but it could have been worse. My Spanish is decent so we broke the ice nicely and I taught her some English. Now, I had assumed that 300 included oral, but I was wrong. I told her I'd giver her a nice tip for it, so it was included. Massage and CBJ were lame, but she made up for it during the FS. Every position imaginable on that paltry table, and I sweat all over the poor thing trying to finish.
After a shower, I gave her a $10 tip (for the kids;-), asked her where to find a cab, and went on my way. Oh, BTW, $6 back to the border. The cabbie was greatly amused by my story of the guy asking for $15. Total damage amounted to $56 - Perla, cabs and a beer. Sure beats Atlanta.
I'm off to Monterrey this coming week, and I'll post when I get back. Hope this was helpful.
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Yes, that is the place. Even has Visa/Mastercard stickers on the door.
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Which way do I walk from Villa Mansport? I think it was to the right.
If I keep walking if it on my right hand or left hand side?
Thanks again,
Dave
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As you walk out of the V. Manport go to the right, it's just before Papaguyos Bar in that triangle with a door on H. Escobar and a door on the street that angles off by the V. Manport.
Ask at the hotel for Papaguyos and you can't miss El Encanto as you walk toward that bar.
HoLa guys,
At first I wanna say an big thx to this very good exellent board here with all the infos and stuff arround.
Now this is my first post, and I'm happy to write here. So I'm (--->I think at the moment the only one) from Germany, and yes I'm an soldier, too. I live in Alamo, that sorry SU*KS REALY: -(.
I luve to have fun with hot chicks, that included for me, sex, too. I live now three years here and have two years more to stay here. At this time I can and will say, too that el paso is not realy the sex paradise, as you know it, if you know it, as from Germany. In Germany it is realy normal to pay for sex and I don't understood the rule from the USA, why here it is forbidden: -(. I'm going now two years in Mexico, most times at the pyramide called *SFINGS*, it is a great place to have some fun, but only fun no sex. So I asked some cap drivers to pick me up and show me some places.
For now I was at three places, but I one I don't remember. There was an masajes called *ROMA*. this place is nice, but I wish me more chicks there. And than I was at the *PINK LADY*. I like this club realy, but I think I paid to much there. I paid for two hours 200 bugs.
Now for what I'm realy looking is person, that knows all the places, where I can have sex. So if there is any, who wanna help me, please pm me. I'm not gay and I'm 29 years old.
I would be more than happy, if anyone helps me here.
ThX in advance and a nice week to all.
Cheers
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After reading the Nogi board I was wondering if any of these new government restrictions have been affecting our beloved Juarez in any way?
I didn't go down to Juarez this weekend but I hear rumor from a friend that MariLu is back. I guess things didn't work out with whoever got her out of the club. I may have time this coming weekend to do some confirmation (meaning bang her myself before she gets away again). Anyone else go down this weekend? Is the old Pasado Indio open again?
The Filthy One
El Guapo II...you shouldn't have any problems taking a rental car to Juarez. i did it for almost a year before I took one of my vehicles to Juarez. i would suggest ENTERPRISE. Always used them and got a decent rate. Just never told them I was planning on crossing the border with it.
[quote]...you shouldn't have any problems taking a rental car to Juarez. i did it for almost a year before I took one of my vehicles to Juarez. i would suggest ENTERPRISE. Always used them and got a decent rate. Just never told them I was planning on crossing the border with it.
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I often take a rental into Juarez, but ALWAYS buy Mexican insurance from the rental agency at the airport. You do not want to be in an accident in Mexico without Mexican Insurance. The insurance is a tad high, but WELL worth the comfort level it affords.
Think about it, Mexican insurance, sold by an American company, you are not likely to get ripped by them, and will have some recourse if you have an accident in Mexico.
Rental cars, there is a rental car place right down the street from the Villa Manport. Hertz I think, maybe Budget. But it is on the same side of the road just a couple of blocks east of the hotel. I have never bothered to stop in and ask what it costs to rent though. Public transportation in Juarez is just too good and too convenient and too cheap to bother with a frigging car while I am down there.
Slugfest, hop on either the Linea Central or the Circunvalation for a ride back to the border from the Villa Manport for about 4 pesos.
Merlin P, you have been screwing around with the questions on a few of the MX boards,so either you can't read or just think it's cool to post. Get a life,and leave the forum to those who have something to contribute,please. Gracias.
Went to Pink Lady about 3 times. Each time was pretty satisfied with the service. The last time I went tho, there was a young thin girl with a nose ring, slim, with huge tits. Wanted to get with her, but someone beat me to it. Went back but they were closed so I went some place down the street. Starts with a P. Not a good selection, but got a friendly girl who gave me a CBJTC and didnt mind since I paid for .5 hours and then we went canine and mish for about 25 minutes and she was into it. Trying to french kiss and everything. Not sure what she said afterwards cuz I don't speak spanish. Been tryin to hit a MP but haven't gotten there early enough. What are some other places to go and the best MP to go to? Oh at PL I usually pay .60 for hal hour ad .80 for hour. the last time they tried to get me for .80 for half hour and i told them I been there before, and it was down to .6 again!
Bbond, you're correct of course in your assesment. I believe Mexico insurance through the car agency will run about $25.00 per day, at least that is what I was quoted several years ago.
Dougie, I know the Rental agency you refer to down from the Villa Manport but for the life of e, I don't remeber which one. Avis, possibly. I do know that you will pay about double in Juarez as you would in El Paso.
SPeaking of rental cars also. If the car is registered in Texas, it does not have to have the tax sticker that you see above the inspection sticker on the windshield. Why? who knows. In the past, I have been "shaken down" by the Transito in Juarez for not having the sticker on the windshiled despite the fact that the car is legally registered AND, it is not in violation of ANY Mexican law or statute. A word to the wise drom one who has been there and done that!
[quote]Merlin P, you have been screwing around with the questions on a few of the MX boards,so either you can't read or just think it's cool to post. Get a life,and leave the forum to those who have something to contribute,please. Gracias.[/quote]
I'll second this comment. All questions have been asked and answered a multitude of times on this board. Seek and ye shall find the answer my son!
[quote]you're correct of course in your assesment. I believe Mexico insurance through the car agency will run about $25.00 per day, at least that is what I was quoted several years ago.
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Budget is about $17/day with a $5 fee for taking the car to Mexico, but that is not $5/day, just a $5 fee.
Budget also charges by the 24 day, so pick the car up at 6 and the insurance runs till 6 the next day.
Hertz charges by the calender day, pick a car up at 6pm and the day is over at midnight. I will never rent from Hertz again.
Reserving in advance I usually get a Budget car for less than the insurance costs.
Buy insurance and cover your butt, never know when you will need it.
Typically Mexican insurance bought thru the car agency has $100,000 liability AND $100,000 bail bond.
Did the once over the clubs these past weekends and have some reports for you guys:
Pink Lady has a gorgeous little blonde there right now named Odalis. Killer little body and a beautiful face, kind of an attitude, but D*MN she was nice in the back room. Recommended.
Also, at Fausto's there is a hottie named Jennie who will step out into the rooms with you. Awesome body, kinda pricey though (40 for a salida, 80 for an hour in the room). If you don't mind dropping the cash for a few drinks, she is one of the best things going in the centro at the moment.
Phantom had a few gorgeous girls, one new blonde that had a killer body. Wanted $80 + salida and cash was tight, but I might be back. Some of the girls there were pretty nice looking, I have to say.
Took Yesenia upstairs at Queens, gorgeous girl, nice time, 60 bucks. Do yourself a favor, she's the best of the "cheaper" girls in the centro.
Also took one for the team and checked out El Horizonte. It was ok, more of a locals joint, but I did have fun. They had a house band which was decent and a few ok looking women (6s), lots of heifers though (4 to 5 on looks), but at least the girls there don't come up to you and hit you up for drinks. I counted 4 pretty women, and two that were very attractive. The place was cheap, so I will probably be back this weekend.
I haven't been to Pink Ladies in quite a while. The last time was at their old location. Where is the Pink Ladies at now? Anyone who is good at directions please help me out. I may want to have a look see at Adam's Odalys. Speaking of Odalys, does anyone remember Odalys Garcia from Lente Loco? Boy she was hot.
The Filthy One
The new Pink Lady is on Altamirano, the same street as where the old Pink Lady was. However, it is on the corner of Joaquin Terraza, which is about 6 or 7 blocks past 16th de Septiembre. You will see a major difference in the two places, considering how small the premises was at the old Pink Lady.
A little warning for American guys going to this place that a nice girl from Acapulco who is working there told me. Over there, if they suspect that you are a gringo, the condom guy or lady will ask for $5 to inspect your dick and give you a condom. For Mexican guys, they do not do this at all. To overcome this rip off stunt, just say you want to go back to the bar and complain that you want your money back. Then they will leave you alone.
I precisely did this and the condom guy left me alone. However, he turned against the Acapulco chick who was with me by saying that we stayed in the room way too long and it was her fault.
With regards to Yesenia, she is still a doll but she was totally hot when she first started dancing at Queen's back in February. However, since then she has gained a little weight around the mid-section area--the start of a beer belly. I guess this is what happens when you need to drink alcohol for parts of your living.
On the other hand, back in February, she was so shy because she was just starting off that she seemed to personify having a cold attitude. Now she is one of the friendliest girls out there.
Sun Devil
That's funny you mention the condom lady inspecting your package. I was there at the new location about a month ago and got the same treatment. That was the first time in my mexican mongering career (over 200 cuartos) that I got inspected. I always heard that the inspection took place, but I took it as a compliment to my appearance that I never had one...lol.
I gave her the usual tip of $2 for the condom and paper. She asked for $5, as if her getting a glimpse of my goods costs me extra, but I said no. I hate to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] anyone off down there, especially when they are calling the shots on my time in the room, but fair is fair. I think she respected me for not paying. I know my chica did....hehe.
Overall, the new PL is much improved. Off the beaten path, but well worth the trip....BR.
I started asking the condom lady to pay ME as soon as she touched me, that generally got a laugh from her and my girl, and she took $2 with a smile and never bothered us.
What a great Saturday. I cruised on down to Marilyns MP and went with Brisa again. I finally saw Joanna and there was another chica who did not impress me so as a result I forgot her name. But anyways, Brisa is a very enthusiastic provider.
After that I went to centro and acted like a little kid. Heres why. You see, I have been selling used phone cards on Ebay. Yes, people buy this shit. So nowadays I start my Juarez adventures cruising the phone booths for tossed out cards. Then I thought I would experiment with new phone cards, so i went to Benavides Farmacia and asked what they had. They had a SpiderMan 2 movie 50 peso card. Cool. He tore one off and I noticed there were other designs. Originally it was a string of 4 but now one was off. I asked if he had more but in a complete set. He didn't. I then hit up every possible place that sells phone cards. Finally I found a pharmacy on 16 de September. Turns out there are 6 and I got them all on the string. 300 pesos. I am going to wait for the movie to come out before I put them on Ebay.
After I put the cards in my car, I saw MariLu outside of Queens. Yes guys, she is back with a new tatoo on her shoulder and no it does not say "Mugroso". Needless to say, my heart is broken. But, my dick got hard again. So I walked over and then inside. Shorty girl saw me and perked up but I just passed her by and I asked MariLu if she wanted to fuck. Boom-boom, we went upstairs. I didn't ask about her "vacation", but I did fuck her ugly doggie style. I told her how much I missed her while pulling her hair. I'm such a romantic guy.
Guys, please, go fuck her. She is back and hotter than ever. Who ever she was with couldn't compete with her constant supply of cock she needs.
The Filty One
Mugroso,
I am so THERE it hurts. She is number one on my list for carnal atrocities this upcoming visit. I get in early on a Sat afternoon, and will pork some deserving MP girl first as a tune up...I had other "ideas" for that nite, but hell, they can wait. My mood just greatly improved.
Where is this Queens located? Any simple directions? Sorry, the directions may be buried here in other posts - but I never find what I want when looking for it. Gracias
I visited Sirena's MP across from the Villa Manport at 1PM on a Thursday. They lined up four girls, and accepted the coupon provided by DreamingEagle, so it was $30 for the hour plus tip. I chose "Brisa," who had very sensuous lips and was quite open to DFK. Her other services were quite OK.
On my way out, there were two more girls in the waiting area, one of whom pinched my butt as we passed in the hallway. An excellent marketing ploy!
Adam Duritz,
On the phantoms scene I also got asked for $80 for two hours and the exit fee, but I never asked how much it was. Since it constantly changes, do you happen to know what is the going rate for the exit fee?
Thanks,
JD
Also how is the Venus MP going? Any news from anybody on this place?
Pecker Will:
Perhaps this will help you (and others):
http://www.cienega32.com/juarez/CDJMaps.htm
I put together some locations that I too wondered about when I first came here and thought it might help others. My first few trips were only of the "fringes" but now - Ooooh Mami!
I just now threw it on one page & it's still in an embryonic stage but the basics are there. My last trip gave me a bunch of other locations and I'll revise it all into a "finished" version over the next week or so.
Right now I'm trying to schedule another 800 mile trek to Paradise.
BJ, I have heard from reliable sources that renting a car in Mexico is expensive relative to renting in the US and driving across the border. But I have not personally rented in Mexico myself so I do not have first hand info. If the car you rent in Mexico comes with insurance then the price difference might not be all that much.
But there are rental agencies there so it stands to reason someone is doing business with them. And have you noticed some of them have strange locations, like the one near the Villa Manport. There is another on PT de la Republica in an odd location. I have not ventured to the airport to see if the usual suspects are there, I imagine they are.
But for my money, especially while I am on vacation, I prefer not to worry with the hassles of a car. Between the Policia, the Vialidad and the car thieves a car is nothing but a headache. And it does not bother me that much to walk from the Villa Manport to Marilyns. Or to ride a bike or take the bus. A little vertical exercise mixed in with the horizontal variety is good for you.
So far as renting a car is concerned, why not just check out Expedia or travelocity or some other travel related website. Insurance coverage? Always ask.
Enough with that bullshit. Lets talk pussy.
Stopped by Queens last Friday night. MariLu was there in all her glory. She was wearing a catsuit type outfit. Looked so hot I took her upstairs and fucked her but not before doing a grinding nude dance with her. I haven't been that close to a pussy without a condom in a long time. I am a lazy lover and we started out with her on top but the mood struck me and I flipped her over and put her in the "spidermonkey" position. She loves it.
Before I hit Queens I cruised the neighborhood. I stopped in at the Montaña to see Diana and her friend. The last time we spoke I suggested to them about selling their panties on Ebay. But as luck would have it, they were busy with customers so I didn't stay.
While down there I felt safe and nervous. The cops were out in droves and campers were everywhere.
The Filthy One
More reports:
Have always been told that the exit fee at Phantom, Amadeus and the 2nd Joker Club (the one that used to be called Premiere) is 40 bucks. A friend has taken a few girls from the 2nd Joker club and it has always cost him 40. There are a few decent girls there by the way, one little blonde there is smoking. I've never taken a girl out of that place. I paid $40 to take a girl out of Fausto's once (Jennie) but it was just to the rooms right outside the front door.
Speaking of blondes, I tried out the 4 Queens massage underneath the Original Joker Club. First of all the place is a dump, and they run a scam where if you only take the 30 minutes they massage you well and take their time and before you can get into some serious fun, your time has run out. Now, you can't just pay ten bucks to make your 30/half hour into the 40/hour. Oh no, you have to pay another 30. Which sucks!!! All that said, there is a blonde girl there with green eyes named Claudia who I enjoyed the hell out of. She's 20 years old with a nice body, and I thought she was worth it, even if I did get scammed. At least one other good-looking girl was there, just make sure you pay for an hour if you're going to go there. They offer an hour in a jacuzzi for 50 or 60, I forget.
Also hit the Luxxor again. Had a real sweet time with Ana, d*mn she's pretty! Big green eyes and petite body and the sweetest pussy, oh man. There was another girl there named Erika who was real fine as well. Too bad she was busy when I got there because I would have taken her and Ana on the 2 girls for $50 deal.
Also noticed that there was a new ad in the Diario for a new MP called "Tiffany VIP". Hopefully someone can check it out and let us know how it is.
Stopped by El Horizonte for a beer the other night as well. Still not terribly impressed with the place, but I did see one woman there with long dark hair who was a total babe. So, maybe next weekend I will check her out.
And of course I will post the 411 here for you guys!
On the subject of exit fees (salidas?), Number Two told me that Queen's bar fine was like $12, which I can't believe. Can anyone set me straight on this? PM is preferrable, just cause it's quick. Thanks!
Hi,
Any one aware of the escort scene in Juarez? I am planning on going to Juarez in two weeks? Also, is it possible to take chicas out from Jokers? What kind of $$$ should we pay for the chicas in Juarez?
Thanks,
Kid03
Kid03..At the risk of sounding like an asshole which I've been known to be on occasion, [b]READ THE BOARD![/b] Specifically this forum. There is some excellent information here on just about every facet of the Mexico scene you can imagine.
But to answer your question. I'm not aware of any escort activities in Juarez although you can check the classifieds of El Diario and you may find something. But, be careful!
Escort scene, like calling a girl to come to your room?
The newspaper is loaded with them. They will send a few girls for you to choose from, it is about $70 or so. And in my opinion, not worth it.
Here is a list of escorts for you to call. They are all open 24 hours and they promise to go to your hotel. Hopefully you speak Spanish:
Gatitas 623-9906
Kenia 199-0367
Dayan 158-2702
Linda 157-1754
Las Carinosas 180-5240
Selene 613-8417
Nahomy 690-1892
I second the notion that Ana at Luxxor is a sweet girl. A very nice girl and I found out that she is into alternative music. Seeing my MP-3 Player, we started talking about music.
Apparently she likes to listen to bands like Coldplay, Semisonic, Third Eye Blind, Creed, Toad the Wet Sprocket, Dinosaur Junior, etc. I have no idea how she got into this type of music since I forgot to ask her but it was a nice talk.
The only thing I didn't like about her is that she had the names of her kids tattooed on her back. I kind of joke that the reason she did this was because it would enable her to remeber her name.
Hi All!
My girlfriend (Mexican) and I (not Mexican) would like to have a two girl experience. Basically, we'd like to find a really good looking (great bod, nice ass, big tits) who would enoy being with me and my girl.
Any suggestions?
Yes, don't do it.
Question, not exactly about the hobby, but related. I took my father and his wife down to Juarez today for the usual tacky souvenir/tourist stuff. Parked in El Paso, walked over the Santa Fe bridge and all the usual stuff. On the way back, the wait was about 45 minutes at the US side. (It was backed up partway up the bridge. This was about 2:45 on a wednesday. So my question is is there a better way? What about the other bridge? I'm not sure I'm prepared to drive in, though that line didn't look any better.
Thanks.
Guys,
Any advice on pharmacies to go to when in Juarez, im planning to a Viagra trip when I go. This will be my 1st time and I just dont what to get ripped off.
Thanks,
Zoo
Rat Fink, I do not recall there being any place to park on the US side of the "other" bridge. Too bad too because your introduction to Mexico is a lot more pleasant there than it is downtown. I might be wrong though, I just didn't look for a place to park there.
Funny, you cross that bridge from EP thorugh a craphole neighborhood on the US side and end up in a beautiful park on the MX side, and then the modern buildings on Av de las Americas and Av Lincoln. Makes you stop and think for a second if you are heading in the right direction, the MX side is MUCH nicer than the US side.
I have never crossed the Zaragosa bridge though, but I do know that it puts you across in an area that is WAY away from downtown EP/Juarez, which might not be what you want.
45 minutes wait to cross at that time a day doesn't sound unusual though, just don't try to cross early in the am, you will stand in line forever.
Years ago (like 8-10) I remember finding free on-street parking without much difficulty by the other bridge. I just haven't used that bridge in the same number of years, and I don't know if it has the same lines. It does also have the advantage of putting you several blocks closer to most of the MPs if you intend to walk.
Tonight crossed the bridge & took a cab to the Pink Lady.
Very, very dark in there. Couldn't see the girls clearly. Manager kept ragging me to choose a lady, so I chose this girl with a nice face.
Got her in the room, and in the red light she was fuckin' FAT! I couldn't see her clearly in the lobby. (Yeah, it's funny until it happens to you)
Decided to make the best of it, but this fat chick argues & fights me about everything. Last straw was when she locked my leg during missionary so I couldn't get it all the way in.
No completion. Left hella pissed off & $100 poorer. ($10 for cab, $5 for toilet paper & condom guy, $80 for fat chick, $5 tip for manager)
The heightened security restrictions might have done away with the parking you remember. The Stanton Bridge, with was the other nearest bridge, is now closed to pedestrians, so that may be what you remember, and it put you right around the basketball courts etc along the border. The bridge that goes to Ave Americas is pedestrian as well, but it is a LOONG walk to get anywhere near an MP from there.
Big thx for the very good info Sun Devil and bbond.....that was what i was looking for, to book an hot chick for an hole day.
So my english is like an s*it ,but i will try it for sure , thx.
Most time I stay in the hotel called *Monaco* ,is this an good place to stay or are there better places?
Does anybody have time tomorrow to show me some places? Please pm me.ThX in advance and happy fucky.
CU
Does anyone know if Masaje Marylin is open on Sunday?
Will be in Juarez and ElPaso after the 4th. Any recommendations for companionship for an evening or night will be appreciated.
Rearwindow, my MO for visiting Juarez is to fly in, walk to China-Mart, buy a bicycle and ride across the Bridge of the Americas. I do not recall any parking there, there is so much truck traffic across that bridge these days it is unbelievable. Also, Mexican customs will stop you if you come across that bridge on foot or on a bike 100% of the time, at least they do me.
BUT, you can take Sun Metro (can't remember which route) to the bridge, walk across, clear customs which takes about 10 seconds if you are lucky and take either bus 8A or 2A Lazaro (can't remember which) from the Chamizal right to the corner of Av. de las Americas and Hnos. Escobar which is MP central. From there wihin just a few blocks in whatever direction is Venus, Brendas, El Encanto, Sirenas and Paradise, if Paradise is even still open. A few more blocks you can add Genesis, Felinas and Corpus to that list. Roma and Marilyn's too if you have good legs. I guess you could also take a taxi, but why would you want to, with such good public transport available?
Another good thing about that bridge is it has a lot less foot traffic, at least from what I have observed. You might fare better on your return trip to cross there than the Santa Fe bridge, depending on the crowd.
Clydesdale: Masaje Marylin is normally open on Sunday.
Two days ago I am looking for a print shop in Juarez and I drive by two MPs. Consuelos and Loryed are the two places. How is Loryed doing now a days? A while back it used to get good reviews and now there are no reviews. Planning a two day trip soon and will stop by some MPs and Phantoms/Amadeus/Jokers. Found a girl named Cindy at Amadeus that is pretty hot. She is about a 9 and always wears playboy clothing with the bunny logo. 130 for two hours but no bar fine since I waited after closing time. It was well worth it!
Good luck,
JD
Watch out for price gouging at Pink Lady's. Usually its only $65 and $40 if y ou get the girl to agree before hand. Tell her to tell the manager that you are a long time friend she hasn't seen in a while. You go in to the little room give the man your $40 and get on with it
I printed out Cienega32's map, and I appreciate his efforts, but do you guys think it's really a good idea for a gringo like me who speaks no Spanish to roam around Juarez?
I usually just let the first cabbie I see take me to the Pink Lady.
Costs me around $140 ($6 cabbie, $100 for an hour, $5 for condom guy, $5 for manager tip, $20 for girl's tip).
Am I getting ripped off? Should I study the board to see a cheaper alternative? Need a HOT girl--no $30 240 lbs. old ladies.
Did DATY with Jenny Friday at the Pink Lady.
Am I a moran?
(she told me she ONLY does 6 guys a day, 6 days a week for the past 3 years--<crunching the numbers>YIKES!)
regarding parking near the bridge of the americas, i sometime park in chamizal park off paisano, then ride a bike across the bridge. you're only a few minutes away from several mps that way. i've only done that for afternoon trips. i don't know how late the park stays open.
riding a bike may be scary, but it sure speeds the return trip. you can just ride to the front of the auto line - no waiting!
I popped into a couple of places in el centro Saturday night around 11:30. As far as bar girls go, it was deserted! Of course, I didn't go to all of them, but at Queens, for instance, I only saw one girl who was maybe a 9 and one a 7. Ditto at other bars. This was around 11:30. One of the waiters said it was busy earlier, so maybe the girls had all been spoken for by 11:30. I would have thought that if the girls were going to work any night, it would be Saturday. Marilu and Yesenia were working Queens on Friday. Otherwise, it looked fairly normal with the usual amount of traffic and people on the streets.
By the way, I only saw Marilu on Friday for a little while, but she didn't look like her normal, carefree, peppy self. This may have been caused by my alcohol-tainted imagination.
From a previous post, it sounds like management has decided to dim the lights considerably at the Pink Lady? I haven't been there in several months, but it used to be very well lit.
I stopped at the Panama a couple of weeks ago. Things may be picking up a little bit there. There were at least 4 or 5 girls that I would rate a 7 or 8!
coyote79,
ouch!ouch!ouch! you're not only getting ripped of, you're being raped in the process. the other places on the map are all fairly close together, and when i first started going to juarez i knew little to no spanish. frequented only the places in el centro, and really had no trouble communicating price etc,. definitely study the board, you don't have to go back many pages to see the typical prices, as a matter of fact , there are the pl prices three posts back from sabroso27.
Hi,
I have a post regarding Las Polamas in the 'Other Areas' section.
Anyone else been there?
Rockhunter
Been to Palomas once, and almost every man on the street was shit-faced drunk by 9 p.m. I also got some dirty looks in one of the bars and was probably the only gringo in town. Only place in Mexico I have ever been that I didn't feel safe, but perhaps it was just the night. Didn't see any girls worth having, although a few chunkers were making eyes at from the end of the bar in one place. If there are any good reports about Palomas, please let us know where to go.
Masaje Marilyn is open on Sundays, but often doesn't open until about noon and closes at five or six o'clock. Jovana, Christina, and Maryana have all quit. If anyone sees Christina or Jovana in another MP, pleeeeze let me know where.
Regarding the poster asking about moving freely about in Juarez, it should not be any problem at all, especially in the day time. No one has ever bothered me in four years. The only proviso I would add is that encounters with the police go bad pretty quickly if they can smell alcohol on your breath.
DE, hope all is well with you. Nice to see you post.
If Mariana has quit Marilyn's, I am in a serious world of misery!That girl was one of the last reasons I go to CJ regularily.
God bless her.
I think it is important if you really like a chick to try to get their phone numbers while they are working at a certain place and before they quit. You know they are not going to stay there for long.
For example, I have Mariana`s cell phone number, which she gave me when we were together. Sorry, I can´t share it with anyone.
Bachelor Warrior wrote: By the way, I only saw Marilu on Friday for a little while, but she didn't look like her normal, carefree, peppy self.
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Funny you should mention that. I walked in at about 10:30 or so and she was sitting with her back towards me. I know it was her as I recognized he sexy delicious lanky self quite easily. I was there to take a [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] and start my phone card hunt (I sell them on Ebay).
When I worked my way back to Queens I talked outside with dancing guy. He said she was not there. I insisted I saw her earlier but he said everyone told him she did not show up Friday night. I went inside and never got a straight answer from anyone.
Bachelor Warrior, at first I thought maybe I was mistaken about recognizing her but your post confirms that I am not nuts. I wonder what is up with her.
The Filthy One
Thanks RearWindow & DreamingEagle, I'll check it out.
Yeah Scoup, I sent you two PMs, but nothing shows in my sent folder.
Oh man.. rub salt in my wounds, SD!!
I have talked to Mariana and she indicated that the reason why she left Marylin was that Sergio has been ripping her off, along with the other girls who left with her.
A new massage parlor that I have encountered is Orientales, whose address is 2627 Hermanos Escobar. The fee there is $40, like that of Imperio. I have seen a girl named Janet, who is highly recommended. She is the pretty one who wears colored contacts.
Starbucks:
Monaco is located just across the street from the Futurama mall and you can go to some of the better, although expensive, restaurants in Juarez around that area. It is nicely located on Triunfo de la Republica so you have a bunch of massage parlors that you can get to. As for me, I stay at the Fiesta Inn, which is a really high class hotel with a pool and a work out room. It is also located on Triunfo and walking distance from Genesis, Venus, Encanto, and Sirenas.
Hola Sun Devil,
Big thx for all the very usefull infos. I dont know it up to yet there is an mall near by the hotel monaco.
Is there only one hotel called *Fiesta Inn* or more?
And hopefully there is speaking some english with the numbers you post there, for the escorts. I'm thinking to book one or two for half an day. Means for me 8 to 10 hours.
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Coyote79,
Hope the maps help you. Just trying to give back to a great forum, you know?
I'm a true light-haired blue eyed gringo with no Spanish skills at all. Not true now but in the beginning yes. My first trip was during the day and hooked up with some food waitress before I could even find the bars. But since that first trip I was limiting myself to the very edge of things being a little imtimidated by the back street thing and not knowing my way around at all. TJ was always fairly easy because of many previous trips with a SanDiego girlfriend there, but Juarez? I was little leary.
Thanks to the fine folks on the forum I was able to find my way around a lot easier - key being cutting thru the plaza and making a right to Hollywood/Queens etc. BTW all I know about is the Santa Fe bridge area.
Life is easy if you act respectful and remember that you're not in Kansas anymore, Toto. Seems to me that the bulk of guys that end up in the back of the dogcatcher trucks are the ones that are loud & sloppy and are just being stupid in general.
So far my only "brush" with the Police there has been when I was walking down Mariscal on a Friday nite with a Fresca in my hand they slowed down to check me out. Thought I was having a problem but when I let the can label show to them clearly they drove off. Being a bit older than the typical weekend party warriors I'm sure works a bit in my favor as well.
I'm by no means a true vet like a lot of the guys here but I'm on about 12 trips I think most of the time staying in El Paso at least 7 days each time. Enough where I'm starting to feel uncomfortable about not being able to speak the language. Only out of respect. I hold those standards for foreigners in my country & I would expect to be held to those standards in theirs. I'm not really a tourist anymore in my mind. Besides I feel that I'm missing out on a lot of culture and other knowledge by limiting myself and being unable to properly express myself to locals or generally converse with them.
But on a mongering note this site has all the Spanish you need - and then some.
Thanks Cien, I'll do that.
Never having been to Mexico before, I was thrown off by everyone coming at me at once. Plus everyone says don't go to Juarez alone.
I was in El Paso a few weeks back and had eh chance to spend the weekend in Juarez. I have made this trip the lst three times I have been there. I stay at the Holiday Inn Express near Av. Lincoln. It is a $10 cab ride from teh bridge. I park my rental car six or 8 blocks from teh bridge in a safe neighborhood type area and walk. Once across I catch a cab to the hotel. It is a nice rea with several nice bars and restaurants and a shopping mall. I reccomend El Ajuua fro dinner and drinks and Los Arcos for the same. The Holiday Inn Express has never hassled me about bringing a lady in with me. I always book for two and act respecable. The rate is $44 per night and includes breakfast. I nromally go to the Pink Lady and line up something for all day on staurday. I have a couple of regulars who I won't mention so they won't get in trouble. $100 buys a wonderful GFE for the whole day on saturday. My last trip my favorite girl spent Saturday day and night with me. Oce I line the saturday thing up I am free to look elsewhere for my Thursday night entertainment. There is usually a good selection at the Pink Lady if you don't mind paying $60 for a half hour and a $5 tip to the "dangerous man" for the condom. Makes Saturday seem like a real bargain especially since I am on expense for the hotel and food and drinks. If you walk from teh bridge, the Pink Lady is a pretty good walk. It is on Altamarino. Walk all the way up Avenida Juarez to the Cathedral, take a right and then go maybe 6 or 7 blocks to Altamarino and turn left for maybe 9 or 10 blocks more. It will save you a $10 or $15 cab ride and is a decent safe walk. From teh Holiday Inn Express you are no maore than 6 blcoks from Genesis. A nice one hour alcohol massage and full serivce is $30. A nice way to get ready for the trip back to the US on Sunday AM. Enjoy!
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Sorry for no repecting the RULEZ, but my english is sometimes very very poor.And i have my problems to understood it as well.
I will for sure promise to going to be better!
Greetings.
That's sad news about 2 of my favorites are leaving Marylin's. I went there Sunday and chose Cassandra, who looked cute. That was a big mistake. She had awful breath, and made pained expressions and whimpering sounds. She also kept her hand in place as a spacer (apparently she was worried I would insert past the end of the rubber). I didn't even bother to finish. I probably won't make any return trips to Marylin unless I hear about new talent there.
I did salvage the afternoon by going to Sirenas. I chose Brisa, who I've heard good reviews about. The reviews are correct; she's worth seeing.
I was just reading thru some past reports, and realized I have been missing some prime chica opps. I have on my priority list these actions: MariLu, Midget and sis contigo, Luxxor's girls,Yessinia, and all unmet chicas. Did I leave anyone out?
Back to CJ in quatro dias.
My dilemma, what to do FIRST?
RW- don't you mean WHO to do first????
Lemon Garret wrote:
I stay at the Holiday Inn Express near Av. Lincoln. I nromally go to the Pink Lady and line up something for all day on Saturday. $100 buys a wonderful GFE for the whole day on saturday. My last trip my favorite girl spent Saturday day and night with me"
The Pink Lady will let you leave with the girl all day for $100?
Is the Holiday Inn Express in El Paso?--Can you take her across the bridge?
Thanks for the info.
I think it is "whom" to do first. But who the frick cares!
Actually, I should have made this a poll. Here's my options:
Saturday 7/03
1) Go to Pink Lady and torment Becky, who probably hates my guts, but is so beautiful that I want to do that in a perverse way anyway.
2) Go to Noche y Dia (?) and find the midget and her sister for a nite out
3)Fuck MariLu
4)Fuck Yessinia
5) hope someone will post about some chica i don't know that I should do as soon as I hit El Centro.
I'm actually leaning towards Number 2, which means I need some serious mental health intervention. I'll report back if it works.
RearWindow,
I need some serious mental health intervention. I'll report back if it works.
Let me know if the intervention works so I can send you a naked pic of the midget.
The Filthy One
Has anyone here actually fucked the midget?? Is she cute, like Bridget the Midget or is she a clockstopper. The wierd factor is definitely at work here.
Anyone know of any Juarez/El Paso providers who like it rough?
(BTW, it would be fun to do a midget--whoops! I mean little person)
Peter_Girth,
I must admit, I fucked the midget a few years ago for 25 bucks. I don't know what got into me but later as I was fucking her I thought to myself, "what the hell am I doing, am I turning into a sicko"? So I closed my eyes and banged her as hard as I could so I could cum fast.
But hey, all was not lost. It is a once in a life time experience. So now when I have conversations with friends and they brag about all the beautiful women they have had, I can say, "I have fucked a midget. Up one on that motherfuckers".
The Filthy Midget Fucker
Man, "We" are a sick bunch at times. I will see if anything like a twosome is possible, cause the regular sis is HOT. The little lady is not bad looking actually, but I have this bad mental image of walking to a hotel or their apartment (which has been offered)or wherever.... I'll let you know if that event flies or not.
Yessinia at Queens accepted a pretty good pounding from me the first time, and seemed to enjoy it. Now if you are thinking throat pokers rough, I'm not sure about that. My Ex-Number Two, named Lidia/Lilly, who at last trip was working Casa Colorado, enjoyed it hard doggie style.
But again, if you mean ROUGH, i'm not sure i have met anyone into that yet. But I'm sure they are there.
Mugroso, send the pic fast, cause i go to CJ early saturday morning.
El Filthy,
My sentiments exactly! If you are exchanging stories about conquests with the boyz, you cannot beat a midget story. Big tits..been there..milf...been there..shaved p*ssy..been there..tied up and whipped..well not yet...but A MIDGET?! you win every time!
As soon as I crossed the bridge, a guy hands me a flyer for a new place named the Sleepy Iguana. Grand opening deals included $1 beer, free pool (with some limits), and so forth. It's very near Casa Colorado, so I checked it out.
Sheila, the middle-aged woman from the Panama was at the door. I asked what she was doing there and she said that's where she works now. There were only 5 girls there, but I was told there were 12 the night before. There were a couple of girls that I seem to remember from the Panama. One said she was from the PL, but I don't remember her. She was about a 9. The other four were probably from 4 to 7 kind of range. Not a lot of selection.
But the place was very clean with new furniture and some decent gringo-type music mixed in the local stuff. And the girls said the rooms were much nice and cleaner than at the PL. I'll find out for myself sooner or later.
I was told that the place is gringo-owned.
Are there any dates that Juarez celebrates with fireworks like we do with the 4th and New Year's?
I got a late start Friday night. I got there at midnight which was a mistake. The bars were all closing due to the 72 hour election dry law. It seems Mexicans can't vote and drink at the same time.
My first thought was, "man, RearWindows weekend is so fucked". Coming all this way and find out that the bars are closed.
I knew about the law but I thought it was going into effect Saturday night.
So rather than let the trip go to waste I walked the neighborhood. Didn't see much, just a bunch of drunks and lots and lots of campers. I really wanted to see what was up at the Sleepy Iguana. I guess I will have to wait a week.
So all there is this weekend in the MPs.
The Filthy One
Cienega32,
Mexico's 4th of July is 15-16 of September. El Grito (the scream) is the traditional celebration at the mega-flag park.
OK Mugroso - you've got to tell me more about this 72 hour dry spell. When is their election day and how is the 72 hour period coordinated? Does it end at the end of election day?
I almost was going to head down that way this weekend! Sure glad I decided against it.
hello,
i decided to trip to juarez on july 3. most bars seemed to be closed, maybe mid-afternoon was the wrong time. i avoided the cab driver routine and walked around town until i was weiry, then a fellow outside of a pharmacy hawking viagra told me about the location of cleopatra's. i couldn't find anything on my own, some of the streets were not posted. a gringo friend of his was standing there, a fellow monger, and he politely escorted me to the place and negotiated the price and time for me. i don't know if he reads this forum, but to whoever you are, many thanks. i didn't even get his name, but a real gentleman. i chose jennette, a flabby blond who was a little heavy handed, pun intended, but she stayed with me for as long as i needed. the other two that were there were ok, maybe a little younger. the place lacked ambience but did offer a shower. for $40 and a small tip, not bad. very busy border crossing and i was turned around by the border patrol for trying to cross the one-way stanton st. bridge the wrong way. and as i was going home, the new mexican state police kindly gave me a $115 speeding ticket. happy july 4 folks, stay cool.
rockhunter
About the "midget"...the term is 'vertically impaired' :-).
I was told that the bars will be open again on Monday.
I visited a friend on Sunday. It was very quiet. Totally understandable since it was Sunday, there was the U.S. holiday, and the elections of course had the bars closed. But, it even looked to me like a lot of the restaurants were closed.
Just went to El Encanto, good time and pretty women. Slender one with bib tits, trulya 7 or 8. Lot of women, nice time and no rush
Well - looks like one more pocket item to add for borderjumping.
I bought a box of those Oral_B BrushUps thinking that they might be a good thing for those nights in Juarez when you don't know how long you'll be there. Small and flatly packed, quick & easy to use. Sure beats the morning gollup of toothpaste on the finger trick that I'm sure more than just me have had to do.
Now that I've got them I guess I'll have to get to Juarez to try them out!
The owners of Masaje Sirena asked me to remove the coupon for the $10 discount. They will be having their own web site soon.
Masaje Marilyn, however, is still offering their coupon for $25 ($5 off). They have a new girl named Betty who is slender and firm and speaks a little English.
If you want the coupon it's at http://www.juarez-mexico.com/Coupons/MarilynCoupon.JPG.
The owner is going to prepare a map for me, also.
I saw Marilu at Queens the other night and told her that I had missed her. I said that I hoped everything was all right with her. She said she is two months pregnant with her 8th baby! Her boyfriend split as soon as he found out she was pregnant. She said he just didn't want the responsibility.
It seems strange to me that an experienced, 25 (or so) year-old woman with 7 kids would allow herself to get pregnant by an unreliable 20-year old guy. I guess the girls/women just really like kids and don't mind being by themselves.
Anyway, she plans to keep dancing - and whatever else - until she's about 8 months pregnant. But she wasn't clear on what nights she would be working. It was almost as if she had other problems at home that she didn't want to talk about.
I saw the post about the Oral-B brush-ups. I grabbed a package myself a few days ago. I think they'll come in handy.
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My first thought was, "man, RearWindows weekend is so fucked". Coming all this way and find out that the bars are closed.
Ohhhh Mannnnn....THAT was one BRUTAL weekend! Yes I am back from CJ and it was not quite what I was expecting, needless to say. Sat and Sun, No bars, no bar chicas...Rrrrrrrrgh. Now ,on the plus side, it forced me to the MP's and I actually met some pretty interesting chicas there.
Sat nite, I went to Masaje Venus on Lincoln, and got the four girl lineup. After looking at them , I quickly picked a very petite girl who I got a strange vibe about. Her "name" is "jacqueline". We get to the room and it hits me..she is a dead ringer for a chica I know in the Dominican Republic. I MEAN DEAD ON! About 5 feet tall, with braided hair and clothed , nice tits, tiny waist, tight ass. Looks carribean, not hispanic.
She was rather shy, having started working recently,she said.Stripped her top off and my jaw hit the floor. The girl has an enormous gravity free rack, you cannot fit one in one hand.
Each ass cheek will barely fill your hand, and my hands spent a good deal of time right there. She gave an fair CBJ, but the highlight was her on top with those melons swinging in my face. YOW! She was so tiny that getting in all the way was a bit painful for her, so I tried to be nice. She wouldn't do doggy, but instead grabbed a chair and sat on me reverse so we could watch in the mirror. She loves to have you say her name while hitting it. No pic as she was supposed to work two nites later, but "muy problemas".
Sunday, Went to Luxxor for the first time and hooked up with Vanessa. A bit older, flat chested, but has one of the nicest set of legs leading to a wonderful ass. I never knew there were that many different positions to f**k in. She absolutely worked me over. Great sex!
Went looking for her again the next day, but she wasn't able to make it to work.
Monday, zipped on over to El Encanto, to find Lorena. At first I didn't recognize her, but the when she smiled (the braces !) , I grabbed her and off we went. We barely got in the door and she was pulling off her dress and my clothes, drops to her knees and gives me a GREAT CBJ standing right there at the side of the table before we were even in the room for a minute. NICE! WE went at it like two crazed rabbits, on the table ,on the dresser, standing, finally finishing with her flat on her stomach. She was so vocal at this point as we finished that someone came to the door "ESTAS BIEN?"!! She mumbled yes, and tells me she loves to have sex with me. Well, the feelings mutual, mi amor.Continued.
Finally I can get a damn beer! Life is good. After Lorena, I go swim and chill out for a while. Head off to El Centro and make my way to Noche Y Dia, which has been repainted ,and has no sign.
No midget and sis, mierda!, so I sit down to check the action. There were two chicas that were hot. One spies me and comes over, her name is Darian. Yes Darian . I asked five times and had her spell it on the table. Now I'm thinking, is this really a chica? I'm wondering because she is built. And by built I mean strong. When she straightened her legs you could see and feel all the different muscles. Grabbed her ass and it is firm..Big tits, nice back...Hmmmm.
She is older, but put together. She was wearing a skin tite short sheath dress ,and I determine in short order that she is indeed a she, and we play around in the booth for a while, dance etc. We agree to go to a nearby hotel and hit it. when she comes out after changing, her body is not quite as hard looking due to her not wearing the high heels. But not objectionable.
We Get to the room, we strip down , and I see that her bra was doing some serious lifting duty on what are large nippled breasts.She had a very small pooch on her stomach,again , no problem. What she put me thru next was amazing.
I'm on my back, and she's kissing all over my chest neck etc. I go to grab her and she pins my arms down,and starts nipping on me, which just about makes me jump out of my skin. She uses her tongue all over the front of me, and tells me to turn over, and proceeds to put her tongue in places I have NEVER experienced before. (Whoever posted a while back asking about rimming...I've found your girl!) We went at it hard mostly doggy for the rest of the time. WOW! A caveat, she is a money sucking machine, and will tryto weasel you out of all the dollars she can. After she tried to tell me that she needed five more dollars back in the bar to repay a mesaro ,I said "adios". And went off to Queens. TBC.
I debated about posting this, but decided to do it for the enlightenment of all here. Some will not like it perhaps, but here we go.
Got to Queens around midnite, greet the waiters, and get my two beers. I am there maybe 25 seconds, and this shape comes rustling over from the far wall. MariLu!! She is looking HOOOOOOOOT in an all black outfit, with fishnet stockings. And she seems to be her normal nutty self, with that crazy laff. We do some serious flirting, and make a deal for TLN at my hotel after hours. She takes me to a table behind the big screen and we dance and drink and grope till closing. I told her early on that I don't want any games, and if she doesn't want to go tell me now. She looks hurt and promises she does. She wants me to pick her up at two outside the doors, and I agree.
Well at two, no MariLu, and I see Yvette near a corner chatting, and sidle over to ask her where M is. She leads me to a door around the corner, and there's M , changed into street clothes. Yvette talks with M a bit, and comes back out and tells me that M " is having problems with an ******, and will meet me at the Plaza in 20 minutes." I say ok and head over there to wait.Of course, I'm thinking "******?" great. I give her 20 mins and no show, so I split.
I've been Stood up. All this after agreeing to a nice price for her, and repeated assurances that she will be there. There probably will be no second chance for her in this. So if anyone heads over there and sees her, ask her about standing a gringo up on Monday nite.
I would like to get the idea to her that people talk, and that stupid actions like that might affect her money flow. Because if this is her SOP, then I don't need that headache.
All that being said, I actually had a pretty cool time in Juarez. Once again, when people ask about my trip, I say with a smile, "well it was different..", and have the bite marks to prove it. ;>)
Added note: The ****** word is h-o-m-b-r-e , i don't know why it got deleted. RW
Sorry about the posts being so graphic.
Well, sort of sorry.
Well, not at all really.
I don't have any emotional attachment with these chicas, so if the descriptions help, have at it, mates! RW
So Rearwindow - they way I read it is you got a flat 5 miles short of the border and never made it over, huh.
Only joking! Sounds like you had a blast this time around. Good work & good reports.
I think the H-word is autofiltered for that "other" site. I had that problem on one of my first postings.
Nice reports, RearWindow. But I cannot believe what I'm hearing. One of your girls tried to milk you for more money and the other one stood you up. What is this world coming to when you cannot even trust a girl from a cathouse? Just kidding. I know how it feels. Don't forget that its all business for them.
All kidding aside, I made the trip to J-town tonight myself. Just had to check out the new Sleepy Iguana. It was nice and clean inside and most of the girls were, indeed, from the Panama. Mostly 6-8's with a few on the lower half of the bell curve. It looks promising, and the owners are from the US. Not sure if that is a plus or negative, but the girls seem to be happy so far. I didn't sample the rooms as I had just unloaded prior to my visit. One girl told me they are much better than the Panama rooms.
The Colorado was happening also. Lots of girls. I did see two very attractive and thin Sw's in front of the Green Lantern at different times. They both said they didn't have ID or they would be in the clubs. I treated one of them to a torta and a fresca, and according to her, she will love me forever. So I got that going for me. Which is nice....hehe.
Happy mongering....BR.
Border Rat,
(quote) "What is this world coming to when you cannot even trust a girl from a cathouse."
Lo, My faith in the human spirit is crushed... but I'm still down with most of the body parts. ;>)
Anyway, According to my sources, there will be a few chicas most are familiar with who are making the move to the Sleepy Iguana soon, so it is definitely on my ever lengthening shopping list for CJ. While being stood up by MariLu, I DID notice that the SW eye-candy factor was waaaaaay up. I had a great result on my first and only event with one, and I may think about it again.
RearWindow,
Don't let the stand up get you down. I have never had a TLN with MariLu. What I have done is show up early, pay the permiso, and head straight to a hotel with her. No din-din, no movie, no nothing. The best she can count on is me buying beers on the way.
I hope you didn't pre pay her for your "date", that would have been real culo of her. I recommend my method or just take her to the room, do her, and leave. She is still a fantastic fuck.
What I have picked up on her is she likes to party with friends after work and if you throw in a guy, who was likely her padrote, forgt it.
I went down early last night to Juarez. I cruisec the neighboorhood and found another used Spiderman phone card to sell on Ebay. I stopped by the "Sleepy Iguana". Really slow, but that can be expected for a Wednesday and the early hour. The Pink Lady chica has a hot body but the face of a bulldog.
The place seems to be at least run by 2 gringos. Not good. That location has a history of gringos running it. Everyone of them has died of one thing or another. Heartattack, cancer, murder, etc. Fernando (dead) who used to own The Cave considered buying the place a few years ago but superstition made him back out.
I can't wait for the weekend because for sure the number of chicas will pick up.
The Filthy One
So more or less where do the SW hang out?
a few things i forgot.
the sleepy iguana is located one block up from the colorado / sans souci. you can't miss it. prices are the same as colorado and panama which means don't pay more than $50 and usually you can get it for $40.
a super cute sw near the gymnasium quoted me $15 plus $5 for the room. she might have been ****, though. i just came out of the cuarto or i would have been all over it.
also there is a bullfight this sunday at 6pm for those that are interested. third one of the season.
Hi DreamingEagle,
Where is Masaje Marilyn? I could not find Del Ejida on the Juarez street map. I will be crossing the Sante Fe Bridge, have been to Cleopatra's, so I know where that is. Can I walk from that area?
Please give me directions form there if you would be so kind, and any suggestions of who to ask for when I get there?
Rockhunter
RW,
I can't say that I'm totally surprised about Marilu. I saw her a few nights earlier. I was suspicous about some kind of problem at home or outside of work because of a few things she said.
I posted on that a while back, but I don't see it on the board. I don't know what happened to it.
Anyway, I think she probably did intend to go with you, it's just that something came up. Do you think that if you were understanding about it, she would appreciate it?
Hey all you crazy mongers,
This is one of my first posts and I thought that this board might be the most appropriate since I lived in Juarez for 4 years. I don't live there now but still can help anybody out with info except in cases of the girls working currently at all the clubs.
I might see some of you guys as I am going to CJ in about 3 weeks.
PS- anybody seen a girl who works at one of the big 3-Casa Colorado, Club Panama, or the Pink Lady-who looks kind of oriental in the eyes, about 5'8", named Susanna?
Rockhunter,
You can't walk there ( Marilyn) from anywhere. The nearest cross street is Montes de Oca. Ask a cabbie to drop you off there at Montes de Oca and Del Ejido,and look for the pale green building on the southeast corner. no sign. And you're there.
RW Said:
"Ask a cabbie to drop you off there at Montes de Oca and Del Ejido,and look for the pale green building on the southeast corner. no sign. And you're there."
To clarify just a bit: From the corner of Montes de Oca and Del Ejido, you will need to walk west about two blocks. Marilyn's address is 2900 Del Ejido, and as RW indicates, on a southeast corner (but not the southeast corner of Montes de Oca and Del Ejido!)
I just had the pleasure of seeing Jasmine there. Evidently, she worked at Marilyn's a year or so ago, and just recently returned. A beautiful girl, and as close to a GFE as one could expect. I've never gotten so much eye contact from an MP lady. Don't let a little leche from those firm breasts bother you.
There was another cutie, Sonia, that I'd like to sample later. Keep the info coming!
OK .. no mas directions from me ..lol! I would have sworn on the grave of my abuela that it was there, as I have told many a cabbie to drop me there... or maybe I asked them for the 3000 block of Del Ejido.... Anyway, don't ask to go to Marilyn, just give the generic address and walk from there.
Marilyn, is at the corner of Juan Escuita and Del Ejido. Juan Escuita is a one way running the opposite direction of Montes de Oca.
What I do is hit Marylin and if nothing make a block and head to Genesis.
I may be a little late on this post.But has any one thought of taking the borderjumper from El Paso ($12.50) all day, First stop is H. Escobar and Lincon,(mp central). Then down to 16 Sept you can go South to V Guerrero if I read the post right 1 mile for two more mp.(Marilyns & Genesis). Then back to 16 Sept and West to El Central with Luxxor on the route, (Two blocks from one stop) (Nice time, and a cold bear at the Little Mexican Market). Then to AV Juarez. And back to El Paso,(explore El Central FIRST) correct me if I am wrong?
TT
Toni Ten,
Good idea , but will the trolly be stopping long enough for a massage?
Masajes Marylins. Here is how I get there. I cross the free bridge, go down Ave. Americas, left in Ave. Triunfo de la Republica, all the way to Ave Lopez Mateos and take a right. Keep going till you want to give up and you will see a big sign for Del Ejido. Keep going till you reach the 2900 block and there it is.
Well its time to head down and check out the Sleepy Iguana. Has anyone checked out ladiesofnogales.com lately? How about the Juarez variation? I wonder where that came from.
The Filthy One
Thank you all for the directions, I think....if I make it, I will report in. I have been told not to let the cabbies know where I am going, because once inside, the price jumps because of their take...trying to stay cool here. Gracias!
The trolley stops 5 or 6 times at every stop.Every hour on the hour. I think there are 9 stops, All the way down AV Lincon & 16 Sept down to FCO.Villa. I think they have 5 or 6 trolleys.
TT
All,
Here is the schedule for the trolley. The numbers at the end tell what time after the hour they are at that stop. Also, I don't have alot of time to go to CJ, so I was wondering from you fellow posters, what is the best MP to go to, and what girl gives the best service? If you all can PM that to me so I can see which one to go to and who to get when I go.
http://www.borderjumper.com/routesAndRates2.asp
Regarding the Border Jumper Trolley, check out their website for complete info, http://www.borderjumper.com/ . Skip the shitty little flash intro (don't you just hate those frigging things?). Click on the "Juarez Tour" button for an animated map of their routes with the stops highlighted.
For $12.50 you can ride the busses in Juarez everywhere and every day for a week. And they do go everywhere, not just to the tourist traps. But I admit they can be a bit intimidating, especially at first. You are GUARANTEED to be the only gringo on the bus and you will get some interesting looks. But I have never had anyone get shitty with me and I have never felt unsafe. It's an interesting cultural experience in and of itself. Not sanitized like the tourist trolley. And believe it or not, the company that runs the bus services in Juarez, Grupo Carreon, actually has a website, http://www.juareztransport.com/ . It takes FOREVER to load if it loads at all, and is short on info such as routes, rates and stuff. But give them time, they are getting there.
Rearwindow, I always walk to Marilyns, usually after checking the wares at Genesis and coming up with nothing but gorditas. It ain't far and it is through a relatively good neighborhood. And you can only get so lost if you remember that if you keep going east sooner or later you will hit Av. Lopez Mateos. From there you can catch a bus back downtown, or drop into Roma's and fuck something.
A good thing to remember about the busses in Juarez. Sooner or later they ALL end up back downtown in the vicinity of the Cathedral. So no matter how lost you seem to be you will sooner or later end up back downtown.
Melissa and Jannet,
Wow, what a night I had in El Paso. So I make it a morning in Juarez.
Got there somewhat late at the bridge, so it was free to cross over. Started walking next to Queens and Hotel Rex and boom, Jannet popped out from the motel and gave me a big hug.
Jannet is 5'1" and very petite. Her rack fits her body. With her, she gave me a CBJ and FS. It was one quicky but for 15 it was worth it. She also nice to look at.
Walked around the area for maybe 30 minutes. Every bar was closed (got there late) but SW's and part time SW's were out. There was some nice looking girls out. Some old and some young.
As walking I bumped into Melissa. Very nice looking girl and will give you a GFE. We first when to get some thing to eat. After that we went to her place at the Hotel Rex. Went in at 2:30am got out at 6 am. She never lets me down.
Saw this other SW's when I left but had to get home. Next I'll see her.
Scoup
I checked out the Sleepy Iguana last night and was pleasantly surprised. That place used to be the Indio Club owned by Richard from Oklahoma. I have been wishing that some Americans, Canadians or someone with common sense would open a bar in Juarez and that has finally happened. Sleepy Iguana has computerized juke box with a ton of good tunes. It even has 2 Buffett cds. It has 2 billiards tables in the rear with new pool cues. The bathrooms are clean and toilet paper is supplied. The rooms in the back for sex are clean, and have a cd player in them. You also can take a shower there. The girls drinks are only $3 which is very reasonable compared to the $7 dollar rip-off drinks at Fausto's. The only negative is that there are not too many girls working there yet. The bar has only been open a couple of weeks so I am sure it soon will have many more. There is one decent looking female waitress there but I would like to see more of them. No more Fausto's, Las Vegas or Queens bar for me as long as this place exists!
Pimelonman,
I was at the Sleepy Iguana last nite too. I miss the old Pasado Indio and having this place open brings back a few memories. By the way, how long was that building closed?
You made some good points about the Sleepy Iguna. Let me point out a few that may not be good but not necessarily bad. Almost all the chicas were dyed blonde. There were only a couple of young ones. The rest looked to experienced for me. They all look like "house" girls. None looked like the stripper type. Whats the difference? I can't put my finger on it but it is just a feeling I get.
Also, it has been a long time since I have seen so many gringos in one place, outside of a WH that is.
I'm not knocking the place, in fact, I plan on going there again tonight. It is now a new spot on my walking tour of the neighborhood. In short, I liked it.
One more post about the Sleepy Iguana. I just read the newspaper. In the sports section is and ad for the Sleepy Iguana. They had a coupon for 2 free beers and 1 tequila. Too bad I don't drink.
I forgot one other comment to pimelonman's post. It is good to know they have a clean bathroom and toilet paper. I used to take a shit at Faustos until they put up the sign saying the bathroom was for paying customers. Now I have a place to go just in case.
Well, enough with the poo poo stories, I'm headed to Juarez right now just as soon as I click "Submit Message".
The Filthy One
P.S. Not to worry, I just took a crap.
Storm Rider#2,
Can't say i have ever met any chica named Susanna in the 3, and not with that description . I would remember a chica with asian features.
Bachelor Warrior,
Actually, I DO believe that something was up with M that was a big problem for her, but all I wanted was a yes or no then, not go wait for me. She was very earnest about TLN, and she was not paid up front, so the incentive was there.
I'll probably give her another chance, but I'm thinking that it will be a "go right now" or nothing. Dios, she is HOT tho!
And honestly, I have a hard time staying enojado with any of the girls, when I think of the many times they have to put up with creeps like me, and a-hole novios.. it's amazing they can be the actresses that they are.
Hi Dougie,
Ok, so it is possible to walk to Marilyn's. As I cross the Sante Fe Bridge, going towards Cleopatra's, how do i get there?
Many Thanks - Rockhunter
[quote]Fernando (dead) who used to own The Cave[/quote]
Mugroso. You talking about Francisco (Pancho) who used to own the Cave? if so, what happened. He's a good friend of mine who seemed to have disappeared after the Cave closed!
BorderJumper
I am pretty sure his name was Fernando. In fact, I am positive. This is going back a few years. A friend of mine who has also since passed away, spoke frequently of The Cave and of Fernando and of Manny the waiter. I recall he had at least one son. I do not recall his name , sorry. The only thing I remember about him was he always looked shifty and had the look of, "someday this will all be mine".
Maybe you can confirm this next time you go down.
The Filthy One
Scoup,
Thanks for the SW reports. I probably should have thought about that alternative when I was there over election weekend. DOH!
One can find some amazing talents around the corners from the clubs. Just look out for the she-males fellas! I can guarantee you will see at least one that you'll swear is a woman.
Muchas gracias again Dougie. I've slowly started to figure out the bus routes, and with your "always end up near la cathedral," I'm set next trip. (excuse the spelling)
[quote]Ok, so it is possible to walk to Marilyn's. As I cross the Sante Fe Bridge, going towards Cleopatra's, how do i get there?
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That would be quite a hike. Especially now it the hot sun.
If you want to try, I'll gladly post directions that I believe anyone could follow, but I would not recommend the walk, because of the distance involved.
Walk to Vicente Guerreo, ride a bus to Juan Escuita,(just before Montes de Oca), then walk south to Del Ejido. Even that is quite a hike.
Sirenas, El Encanto, Corpus, Felina, and Luxxor are closer, still a fair walk to get to them, but not nearly as far as Marilyns.
Since I'm directionally challenged, all I'll ad to bbonds post is that about the time you start thinking you are seeing palm trees around the oasis and vultures circling in the sun above you, that would be the time to hail a cab for Marilyns.
Ok, I do not need vultures circling me - I'll take a cab.
Thank you - Rockhunter
Was that really Alejandra I spotted at Venus the other day? If so, what happened to one of the most beautiful bodies in Juarez? (a baby maybe?)
She was always fun before; maybe I'll have to go see if she's twice the fun now since there's twice as much of her now.
RearWindow not a problem. Love the SW and part-time SW in Juarez. Just play it safe and don't hand out money quicky. Be smart, and don't let your little head do your thinking.
As for the TV and TS, all I have to say is if it looks too made up and tall, 90% of the time it a male. You can tell by the tone of their voice. TV and TS try harder to look good so too made up is one way to tell.
Scoup
And Scoup - the bad thing with the TS/TV thing is that the two hotels in the Queens area - the one past Virginias and the one around the corner on Begonias - is that some real girls hang with them.
I remember once standing on the corner with one of the door guys from Virginia's (I think) and this petite little, & I have to admit fairly cute, blonde who had a very passable voice and her friend were walking and offered an invite. The door guy taps my arm and (post-translation) tells me "she" has a 10" dick while he holds his hands apart like a fisherman telling his tale. I was about to ask how he knew this but thought better against it. I didn't really want to know. His testimony was enough for me. "Her" friend was a gender girl, he said. Truthfully "she" looked better than "her" friend!
Most, like you say, are too made up. Glammy and vampy in looks. The hands, the voice, the adam's apple, and sometimes the eyes will give it away. But every now & then one sneaks thru. If you're not sure just politely ask. I'm sure they would rather tell you than risk a bad reaction if you didn't know and found out later.
Clydesdale,
Is Alejandra back at Venus? I missed that report where, where.
I saw her several times and you are gith she was a lot of fun. Skip Berenice if you go to Venus, not worth it.
JD
The adam's apple is the definitive marker, unless you found a 10" surprise before that... The real girls hanging around there is a problem, cause i look at them and start wondering..
Anyway, I will definitely check out the SW's next trip, as they were looking hot. You can't beat the price, and for the most part, they seem to be very clean and personable.
I live by this, if its too good to be true, don't trust it. But anyways, I stay away from the Street girls, to many problems. I like a more controlled atmosphere of a bar. I just can't walk up, pick a chica and go to the room . I need to sit, scope things out, mess with some heads, watch a show, and sip a soda to death. Eventually inspiration will come to me.
Speaking of inspiration, I have started my website. It has been up for a week now and it doesn't look like much and my intended direction seems to go all over the place. There is no message board, and why should there be, I like this place for sharing info. I named it **************.com. I inspired by the Nogales website that I just had to name mine that. Little by little I will make it an interesting website.
The Filthy Webmaster
Hey guys...it's been over a year since I've visited this site. Seems like a few things have changed: I especially bemoan the much reduced activity of Dreaming Eagle (guess he's busy with his Jaurez website). Anyway, if you're still looking into the forum...TRex says "hey" D.E.
Over the past year, I've been just occasionally to the MPs. I did find a gem in Lorena at El Encanto (which I notice several others also discovered); and I was tickled to death to find Mariana back at Marilyn's (although I understand that she has now left).
I've been reading about 20 pages into the board, but I have just a couple questions maybe someone can answer. First, does anyone know if Johana is still working at Marilyn's. She is a real knockout and a terrific lay! I also wanted to know if anyone had any more specific information about Jasmine and/or Sonia at Marilyn's; or Janet at Orientales; or any other good-looking, slender, and enthusiastic provider who doesn't try to upsell. I'm strickly a MP guy, so please confine any comments to that venue.
Finally, re: Alejandra at Venus...man, did I miss her when she left last summer. Do I truly understand that she is back, but has turned into a gordita? Is there any other confirmation of this?
Oh yeah...I almost forgot. I wanted to get some more information on Roma's. I was coming out of there about 2 months ago (just having finished with a nice, but slightly full-figured chica whose name I forgot), when a saw a very attractive, slender, young, and petite girl in the lounge area. I wish she had been available when I arrived. I've been back once since then, but she wasn't there (probably already taken). Does anyone know who this is? And if so, could you please give a report on her performance? I'm dying to find out.
Roma's was actually a very pleasant surprise. It's quite a nice place--updated and clean (the one draw-back I have against El Encanto is that it's filthy...and the shower is a joke), and girls charge the normal fee (the major draw-back with Venus is their high rates). Anyone go to Roma's regularly?
TRex! (and all other mongers):
What is the normal fee?
Thanks
Rockhunter, it is a bit of a stroll from the bridge to Marilyns. I said I walked there from Genesis, but the two are not all that far apart. I wish I could give you good directions to get there on foot from Genesis but I just can't. The streets in that neighborhood south of Av. Insurgentes (sp?) are pretty convoluted. You really do need a map to find your way around.
TRex, the chicas turn over so often in the MPs that finding one in particular ever again is real iffy. I would like to know if Cristal is still at Felinas as I am planning a trip for the not too distant future but I suspect she has moved on down the road.
Coyote, .3 or so is "normal". Some, like Sirenas and Venus, will try to get .4 or even more. And if you have a chica in mind then it might be worth it. Some, like Brendas, will go for .2 or .25, YMMV.
Coyote...The prices Dougie quotes are right on. Although when I regularly going to Venus, all the chicas (except Alejandra--another reason to love her!) would charge $60 if you wanted oral as part of the service. As Dougie says, even that could be worth it if offered by the right girl. Unfortunately, I haven't seen anything worth it at Venus for quite some time.
Dougie...I know the turn-over (pardon the pun) in the MPs is pretty high; however, it seems to me that the nicer looking girls tend to stick around longer than the norm (maybe because they make a lot of money?). And I know the whole MP scene is mostly shot-in-the-dark stuff, but it's worth a chance. Good information can save a guy a lot of time and frustration.
And I'm one the guys who has walked from across the Santa Fe bridge to Marilyn's. It's quite a stroll (over an hour): not for the faint of heart, and certainly not the most pedestrian friendly route. I usually end up taking a bus to get me close (see below), which is really cheap (only 40 cents each way...and the drivers will even take American dollars).
But the route from Genesis to Marilyn's is really quite simple. Genesis is right on Montes de Oca. If you take a bus on Vincente Guerrero near the Cathedral, you can get on any one that is marked either "Futurama" or "Hippermart." Some busses go straight down Guerrero; some turn up and around to get onto della Republica (but still going east). In either case, get off at Montes de Oca. Genesis is between the Republica and Guerrero (just north of Guerrero, on the west side of the street). Personally, I've never seen any chicas in there above a 5, but I don't stop there regularly.
Now, if you want to go to Marilyn's, just keep going south on Montes de Oca. You'll pass two rather busy streets (Insergentes and della Raza). Just keep going south for about 7 blocks past della Raza, until you get del Ejido, then take a right. Marilyn's in on del Ejido, on the left, only 1 or 2 blocks down the street. It's on a corner and has a green door. Just knock and the girls will let you in. I'd guess it's about a 15- to 20-minute walk for me...but I walk fast.
If you REALLY like to walk (like me), you could follow a recent system I've developed (in fact, I think I'll do it again tomorrow!). Take one of the busses from the Cathedral (again, any marked either Futurama or Hippermart will do). But instead of getting off at Montes de Oca, keep on it for another 6-7 blocks or so until you get to Av. Lopes Mateos (it's the street that fronts the west side of the Futurama Mall). Walk about 9 blocks south, and you'll see Roma's on the right (just before Church's Fried Chicken). If you don't see anything there you like there, walk back up L. Mateos for about 3 block until you get to del Ejido, take a left, and you will get to (after about 10 blocks)...you guessed it...Marilyn's! If nothing there catches your fancy, go back on del Ejido a few blocks to Montes de Oca, and walk up to Genesis.
Loryed's is always 250 pesos. With the exchange rate at over 11:1, change dollars to pesos, get laid for about $22. Not always anything worth the trip, but like every place else, sometimes it is.
Watch the paper, I have gone to Parisio for $15 for 20 minutes.
If you need a good massage with good sex, Candy is back at Genesis.
I walked, once , from the Villa Manport to Marilyns, once, it won't happen again.
FYI...after just having finished a tour in C.D. today, I edited the distances in my early post: they are a little closer than I earlier supposed. And Genesis is actually just north of Guerrero (instead of Insergentes). I hate the thought of fellow hobbyist wandering around lost in Juarez.
I started at Roma, but only 2 girls available. One was kind of attractive, but much too tall and heavy for my tastes, so I moved on down the line to Marilyn's. When I went in, there were 4 girls around, none of whom interested me. But just when I was almost out the door, Sonia turned up. She is a young, slender, dark-haired beauty; not very well endowed in the breast department (but that doesn't bother me at all...I'm a leg man myself, and I actually prefer smaller-breasted women). I'd rate her performance somewhere around an 8-1/2. She was quite enthusiastic and eager to please. No Lorena (of El Encanto); but I think she must be somewhat new to the profession (she told me she was from Zacatecas, and that this was only her 5th day at Marilyn's...for what the is worth). Still, it was a very good experience!
By the way, on my way out I saw 2 other very nice looking young girls who weren't around when I first walked in. I was still a bit dazed and confused from my session with Sonia, but I think one of them was Johana. I don't know who the other was; but she was very young with rather short auburn hair, and perhaps the best looking of the lot! Anyone know who she is?
All other MP specialist: please post your weekend experiences. Inquiring minds want to know!
I'm going to be in El Paso this Tuesday and want to go over to Juarez for something fast. Does have anyone have any suggestions? I'll likely walk over the Santa Fe bridge.
I'll take suggestions and will post my experience.
Marilyn's has four really nice looking girls now: Sonia, posted about below, Sandra, a tall slender girl, Jasmine, a little shorter but slender and busty, and Cassandra, a little heavier but by no means fat. Sergio got on a roll. His girls are nearly always very nice and girl-next-door looking girls. There are a couple there which don't interest me, but this new foursome is pretty stunning. Three of the four down and one to go, but then there is always next weekend.
Marilyn's is at 2900 Del Ejido, at the corner of Del Ejido and Juan Escutia for those with a map. The phone number is 613-1369 if you have any questions. Just ask for Sergio. He speaks very good English. The directions below are correct, but I'm not sure I'd want to walk all that way on Montes de Oca from Genesis. You could take a bus on V. Guerrero to Lopez Mateos, then hop one south on Lopez Mateos to Del Ejido. You still walk about 7 blocks, but not nearly as far as walking Montes de Oca from V. Guerrero. I mention this because right now, as you know, it's HOT in Juarez. I've been here four years, and if not on record it certainly seems like the hottest summer yet because of the humidity.
At Venus, skip oral, unless you have to have that. Go straight to the feature, and you can't go wrong. They will screw your eyes out.
Lorena at El Encanto is the bomb. Nuff said.
I believe that Johana left Marilyn as well, but I could be wrong.
Yes, Jovana and Christina both quit Marilyn, or were dismissed. Someone posted below where they can be found now.
RearWindow...it's funny how the obvious can evade some us! Yes, if I ever go back to Venus, I WILL skip the oral.
I assume from your post that you've been with some good-looking chicas there; can you elaborate? I've poked my head the place about a dozen times over the past year, but I've not seen anyone worth a go. Maybe I've just come at the wrong time.
Jessica,
Today I went for an early morning BBBJ and FS. Cross over the bridge and hit around the Gymanizium. Morings are cooler and girls seem to lower ther price.
Saw this very nice and petite girl, she came right up to me and as if I wanted some company. Told her 15 is all I had and she said yes. Went to her room next to the gym. She gave a great BBBJ. The CFS was very good also. I got my morning nut.
I believe going to Juarez is better than El Paso in price, but that's if you have the time. Love the Mexican women.
Scoup
B Blond is right.
I have to agree with bbond that you can get more for your bucks in Juarez then in El Paso. I just love the hunt in El Paso and I know some guys that don't like going to Juarez, but he is right.
Scoup
TRex,
Ok, I get it (lol).
I have gone to Venus on Sundays. For some reason the quality has been better. It has been hit or miss, but the last three trips there have been noteworthy. Jacqueline, most recently, and i am spacing on the other two names ( very unusual ones, i do remember). Never got good oral there... but the bodies were very nice.
I'm referring the next post by Clydesdale.. Gabi was another there...thanks .
I got the chance to experience Sonia at Marylin's and recommend her highly. She has a nice slender body, friendly personality, and is pretty enthusiastic.
Another endorsement goes to Leslie at Masaje Michele. She has an excellent body and is fun enough. She's the first real good one I've found at that place.
Someone at Venus worth trying is Gabi. She's slender, but not too firm, and is fairly enthusiastic. She doesn't ask me for extra for oral either. Last time I was there I thought I saw Alejandra as I was leaving. I only caught a short glimpse, and wouldn't have believed it was her except for those distinctive lips. There were no blonde corn rows or dreadlocks; that would have been the clincher.
Bus question: After reading about all of you enjoying the MPs and how easy the buses are I need to ask a few how to's.
They will take US coin, true?
Do they announce the stops, do you tell them the stops when boarding, or do you just tell them when you need to get off? If more than one of these works which would be the better way?
Did I read that ALL the buses end up the Cathedral?
I need to get back and have been wanting to brave the unknown world of buses, Thanks to whoever posted that trolley tour link. I think that will come in handy as well.
Based on some of the reports I decided to try the Sleepy Iguana since I'm not much of one for massage parlors and trying to fuck on those damn tables.
The place was ultra clean by Juarez standards (even by American standards). Without a doubt the nicest place I've been into in Juarez. The selection of girls was limited but friendly and the owner said that there will be a new batch within a week or two.
I met a girl named Claudia, long blonde hair and a great pair of tits. She speaks some English and she was a pleasure to talk with. We went to the rooms and I was pleasantly surprised. The rooms are somewhat small but very nice. They are air conditioned and also have a ceiling fan. One wall is mirrored and they even had hooks for me to hang my clothes on. Claudia selected a CD and we listened to some nice music throughout our session.
Rather than just the condom and toilet paper, we were presented with a basket containing water, lotion, wet wipes, condoms and mints. The session with Claudia was great. She has a nice thin body with amazing tits. I loved when she got on top of me and turned around. Nice session. Took a shower afterwards and was amazed when the shower was as clean as the one I have at home....and the shampoo wasn't even watered down.
I probably could have paid $40, but I figured she needed the extra $20 more than I did and I appreciated the way the whole place made me feel like I wasn't getting ripped off. I know a lot of guys pride yourself on getting the lowest price you can, but when I'm treated right, I think that people deserve to be rewarded a little.
I hope the Sleepy Iguana does well because it's nice to have a decent place that offers a great experience at a fair price.
A bit of advise, never make a posting here unless you are wide awake. I have been waiting to see my post on the Sleepy Iguana but nothing. Maybe I dreamed the post, maybe I'm insane, or just maybe a dumb ass.
So let me try it again. I went to the Sleepy Iguana in Juarez last Friday night. I got a dime tour of the non bar areas. Wow. What a nice layout. Most of the rooms are kind of small but very clean. There are a few larger room, but they all serve the purpose and more. Showers are available at the end of the hall on both levels.
The eventual plan is to make the rooms available on a room and board or bed and breakfast basis. Whether you want to spend the night with a chica or just crash out for the remainder of the evening, the choice is yours. There is also a full service kitchen on the first level. All very nice. I really do wish this guy luck.
The Filthy One
In response to c32,
The fare used to be 3 pesos but they will take U.S.$. Just make sure you know the exchange rate.
They do not announce the stops and it is a good idea to let the driver know where you want to go as long as he can understand you. Especially if you don't know where you are going.
Not ALL the buses end up at the cathedral. Some go close and some don't go close at all.
I went over Wednesday night to Sleepy Iguana in hopes of having a good time with Claudia but unfortunately she was not there. The few girls there were in the 5 to 6 range so I just walked on back to El Paso. I returned today at 6 pm and she was still not there. The only female in the place was an elderly woman tending the bar. Without Claudia the place has really become kind of lame. Come on Tim, recruit some decent pussy!
Yeah, you can't go wrong with Claudia at Sleepy Iguana. I've done her several times at the PL and Panama. One of the best bodies around and a nice lady too. She reminds me of Marta Sanchez, the blonde singer from Spain. Claudia has been around the circuit for at least 4 years now, so keep that in mind. When I was last at the SI, she was all over me, but I was trying to get rid of her to talk to the other girls. There was a very nice girl-next-door-type morena that looked great and a few others that were appealing. I just hate to be an ass, and blow off a girl to hook up with another. Even though its just a job to them, they still have feelings....maybe. BR
Regarding the buses, they will take American coins or even a dollar bill, but they don't want anything larger. Juarez is a pretty huge city if you consult a map and some of the routes never get close to downtown, I feel sure, although you can get downtown on some route from anywhere. But the buses downtown will get you to about all of the 17 MPs I'm aware of. If you can convey to the driver where you want to get off in Spanish and sit near the front he will usually clue you in. If you know where you are going just say "baja" when you get there, meaning you want him to stop for you. They will stop about anywhere, bus stop or not. I rode them for a year and found the Juarez bus system to be a lot better than the ones found in most American cities in that they go where people want to go and get you there about as quickly as driving. I'm not sure I would own a car if I lived there full time.
Mugroso,
I sympathize with you there. I read about MariLus most recent pregnancy late at nite, had bad dreams, and then woke up in denial, thinking I dreamed the whole post was a nitemare. Couldn't find it for two days, and then it popped up. Serious gut wrench. I probably should seek help.
I have heard that more than a few MP girls might make the move to the Lizard soon. Probably worth keeping an eye on that place.Someone posted that CC was hopping. Any faves back?
[quote] Bus question: After reading about all of you enjoying the MPs and how easy the buses are I need to ask a few how to's.
They will take US coin, true?
Do they announce the stops, do you tell them the stops when boarding, or do you just tell them when you need to get off? If more than one of these works which would be the better way?
Did I read that ALL the buses end up the Cathedral?
I need to get back and have been wanting to brave the unknown world of buses, Thanks to whoever posted that trolley tour link. I think that will come in handy as well.
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Yes, coins accepted, quarters are accepted as 2 pesos.
A dollar will typically be accepted as 10 or 11, unless posted other wise.
DE told you how to get them to stop, just watch other people get off you will see.
There are 2 main bus stops downtown, both are in the general area of the Cathedral, within easy walking distance anyway.
RearWindow,
MariLu preggers? How can that be? She has that big scar down there. She told me that after 7 kids that she was fixed. Oh well, so long as its not mine, but I will miss her for the months she will be out of commission.
But if you care to reveal how you found this out let me know either here or in private message. I have thoughts about this. I have seen this before. Chicas have put the word out they are knocked up just to see who will show up. The next thing they do is milk any sucker for as long as they can get away with it (I wouldn't have started a website if I were a newbie to the scene). Insert big smiley face here.
I will be heading down tonight and will do some inteligence gathering. But then again she maybe finding out for herself who and what is being said about her on the internet. These girls are not dumb but if we are not careful, we can be very stupid.
The Filthy One
Clydesdale...thanks for sharing your MP information with us. Again, I know that the turn-over rate at these places is high; but, man, a guy can sure save a lot of time and trouble with a couple good leads.
At the risk of getting a RTFF response, I ask: where is Michele's? I'm fairly well acquinted with Juarez, so I don't need overly detailed directions.
TRex,
Masaje Michel is on Avenida de las Americas and Jose Marti. That's a couple of blocks south of where it splits from Lincoln. Their sign can be seen fom Americas. There's also another chica there with a nice body, bubble butt (firm), teacup titties, and a firm flat stomach, but she didn't perform too well for me. I can't recall her name.
Cienega, DE has already given you the lowdown on the busses. I have never used US coins, I don't recall the coin dispenser the drivers use having a place for them. Be a mensch and use Mexican coins. It's just more polite to pay in local currency IMHO. Leave paying in greenbacks to the boorish touristos in the Zona. 4 pesos as I recall, they raise the rates from time to time. First ride I usually give a 10 peso coin and count my change. ;^)
There may be some busses that don't end up back downtown, but I swear most of them do. Even the ones that go as far out as Zaragoza and the airport end up back downtown by the cathedral. But I have not ridden ALL of the busses so I cannot say for certain that all of them do. Also, FYI, there is usually an "end of the line" at some point on the route where you are expected to get off and if you want to get back on you will need to come up with another 4 pesos. For example, the Linea Central's "end of line" is the Plaza San Lorenzo (Soriana/Hipermart). El Centro is the other end of the line.
There are Paradas all over the place where the busses stop. They will also stop if you raise a hand to flag them down. Unlike the busses in EP you don't have to wait an hour for another one to come by if you miss your ride, they run every 10-15 minutes, more frequently during their busy hours. And they don't publish routes but they do put their routes on the windshield. That requires you to know the places listed. It may take a little time to get that down pat, and just when you do, they change the routes. ;^) Now off to cook up some chicken soup (inside joke).
Clydesdale, there used to be a chica at Michels named Yoli, late 20's, not petite but well built with a nice ass, boy could she strap it on you. Wasn't there my last visit. I hate their shower setup, with the adjoining rooms sharing a shower, I kept feeling like someone would come through the shower from the next room over and catch me with my pants down, literally. And I sliced my foot open on the poorly maintained tile around the drain in one of the showers one time. But I did not catch any horrible diseases though.
Whatever happened to Vanessa from El Encanto? Either you liked her or you didn't, never smiled but when she did she looked like an entirely different person. Nice big ass, big enough to give a good massage.
Is Cristal still at Felinas?? Can you tell I am planning a trip down for the not too distant future. As soon as the weather starts to cool off a little.
Excellent Friday night. Even though I didn't find any new phone cards the night went well. I met up with Scoup at the Sleepy Iguana, which was kinds slow this time. I met an English speaking chica named Angie, cute. Then we headed to Las Palmeras.
Isela, the older lady that hustles drinks told me about and old novia who came into town for 3 days looking for me. She left her number for me to call her in Chihuahua. I will skip the gruesome details on that situation. It goes back to 1997. There were a few hotties on shift. Moved on to Montaña.
Clydesdale, I just found out there are 2 Dianas working the Montaña. When I walked in I saw Diana dancing. I waved hello and kept on towards the back of the bar. Then Diana intercepted me and I saw Diana dancing still. I did a "what the fuck" and asked if they were twins. She said no. Now I am confused as to who you bought a drink for the night of the mongerpalozza and whose titties did I suck in the doorway that one time. Oh well, I have at least one of them on my website.
Which reminds me, I got more chica pics for the website. One of them is super fine, one is pretty but dingy, and the other is not so hot. You will see soon when I post one of each here.
Scoup got to see the famous Marilu who was looking as delicious as usual but his sites were elsewhere. I'll let him tell you about that.
We were low on cash but I ran into a couple of friends who had empty beer bottles so we each grabbed one and so they thought we were drinking. This kid knows how to have fun on a budget. Yessenia was looking tasty too but she just won't break down for a photo. I see her as a challenge.
The Fithy One
[quote]A bit of advise, never make a posting here unless you are wide awake. I have been waiting to see my post on the Sleepy Iguana but nothing. Maybe I dreamed the post, maybe I'm insane, or just maybe a dumb ass.[/quote]
You're not insane or a DA Mugroso. Jackson gets kinda swamped approving all the posts. Go to the "Senior Membership" link on the sidebar and request to be upgraded. you shouldn't have any problems with your contributions here to the board.
same for the rst of you. with senior status, your posts go through immediately!
[quote] Cienega, DE has already given you the lowdown on the busses. I have never used US coins, I don't recall the coin dispenser the drivers use having a place for them. Be a mensch and use Mexican coins. It's just more polite to pay in local currency IMHO. Leave paying in greenbacks to the boorish touristos in the Zona. 4 pesos as I recall, they raise the rates from time to time. First ride I usually give a 10 peso coin and count my change. ;^) [/quote]
I posted about coins, no problem really, dollar bills too. Lots of Mexican pay with American money. A quarter is accepted as 2 pesos and a dime is accepted as 1 peso, when the rate is 10:1 or higher. A dollar will be 10 or 11 pesos, depending on driver.
Last time I rode, and it's been a few months, the fare was 3.50 pesos, just pay 2 quarters and let driver keep change. If the fare is now 4 pesos, there will be none anyway.
You can ask other people, waiting for the bus, what the fare is.
Hey Dougie, it's me, remember the MP scouting mission we went on a while back?
Been visiting El Encanto and Michels lately. Got real good service from Lorena at El Encanto. There is another young busty girl, an 8 I would say, at El Encanto, believe her name in Deanna. She will give great BBBJ and rides you till there is no end. Great experience with both girls. Cant remember the girl's name at Michels. Slender with great body and cute face. She was in charge of the place when I got there. She called out all the girls and called out the price, $30 for 45 minutes. Overall good time and will defintely keep on visiting.
I'd like some info from some Juarez veterans. From 1997-99 a chica named Michelle used to work at Las Palmeras. If this rings a bell with anybody send me a private message. I will send you a photo for verification to make sure we are talking about the same chica.
The Filthy One
For you Juarez mongerers who lament the quality of girls that ebb and flow thru el ciudad, check out the Mexicali Jack photos in the photo section. I'm not ripping him, but my God, kill me before that.
(I should have noted that they ARE NOT Juarez girls!) Thankfully.
Friday night to Sleepy Iguana,
Back from Ruidoso so this is a late entry. Friday night start out with a meet with Bibi which was great with a BBBJ and FS. Told her that I was going to meet up with Mugroso at the Sleepy Iguana.
Slow night at SI. Nice looking place but seemed slow. Mugroso show me around his place with was great. New experience and great looking girls. He does know his clubs guys.
I danced with some girls and was felt up by some girls too.
Mugroso, found out later that there are two Diana's at the Montaña. One of my girls told me all about them. Guy both of these girls look great a 8 to 10 ( Diana #2 maybe 11 in my books).
Of course, the person I wanted to finally see was Marilu. Headed to Queens. The place was jumping and there she was Marilu. This girl has one for the best smiles and attitudes that I have ever seen. Of course, there was another. Her name is Alexjanra and must be I guess 5'3" with a body that matches.
Mugroso took some great pics of her and guys I just forgot about Marilu. Sorry, she just so petite than it just turned me on. Had alittle talk with her and I just hope she stays here.
Came close to closing, so week headed out to SI to see how it was going. Mugroso found out when I told him that some of the SW see me and grab me away. Two just have to stop me and took me aside.
Guys go to Mugroso site ladies of Juarez dot com to see some of the great ladies in the clubs. Had a great time.
Scoup
Glad to see Lorena of El Encanto getting some good press here. She is a really nice girl to talk to and a great time on the table, too. The busty one at El Encanto, I believe, is Diana, and she does, indeed, like to ride. Don't know why I don't get by there more often, as I also like Sr. Munoz, the owner. I guess the girls at Marilyn's have captured my heart for now. Haven't been anywhere else for months.
For those who have an interest in living in Juarez, or having an apartment for weekends, I can tell you there are lots of vacancies at my old building at Vicente Guerrero and Calle Peru next to the hardware store. I have not posted this information before, because, frankly, I valued my privacy too much to make the announcement. But for $200 a month you can get a great furnished apartment with all of the amenities and park your car in a locked private garage around the corner on Calle Columbia. There are some luxury apartments for $400 a month above the garage with central air, a bar, and really nice furnishings. Sr. Salvador Flores is the owner, who is the best landlord I ever had on either side of the border. I have a bottle of tequila for him the next time I find him on the premises.
My new place is only $100 a month, has private parking, and is located in a good family neighborhood. I will really miss the people on V. Guerrero, but even good things pass. The $100 apartment will be a palace in 2-3 months and is an integral part of my plan to escape to Mexico in January and live like a king for $500 a month. The plan is to do absolutely nothing for 6 months except study Spanish and write travel articles about Juarez and Chihuahua for the Juarez Tour Guide. It's receiving a steady stream of about 12,000 visitors a month and actually making some decent money on the Google ads. With the JTG and elimination of all debt I could work as a greeter at Walmart in El Paso and get by just fine. I'm done with my high tech, everybody's so damn smart, work-a-day world and debt and high cost of living in the states come 2005. It's finally over. I'd rather be selling tortillas on the street than continue this joke of a life north of the border. Friendly people everywhere I go, a new culture to study, and a girl after breakfast every day.
You guys really should check out the new selection at Marilyn's. This weekend I got with Sandra, 19, who is a model quality, total doll. So much for the experience counts theory. Perfect body, perfect face, perfect teeth, perfect smile, and perfect passion. Some girls are just born to do it right. Then there is Sonia, mentioned here favorably, who just gets more friendly and open with me as I go through the rounds of the other new girls. Then there is Cassandra, the one with the most beautiful eyes and lips I have ever seen. I guess I've known her for almost two years. It's fun to sit in the parlor with all of them and feel the amicable tension in the room. This weekend I brought them a box of Millionaire chocolates. The fourth babe, Jasmine, quit after a week or two. Can't wait to see who Sergio hires next.
The quality of the girls in Juarez can be pretty gross, as noted below, I admit, but it is also awesome if you take the time to really explore the place. Juarez is kind of like panning for gold nuggets in the mud, but once you find them, gold is gold.
Based on reports I read here I decided to go visit Marilyns. It would be nice if they had a sign! Fortunately, I had the address. With all the great press I've read here, I asked for Sonia. She was cute, slim, just the way I like them. Only problem was when we got in the room I discovered a string hanging from her pussy. I decided to postpone my adventure with Marilyn for another day and asked her to have Cassandra come in instead. She was really sweet and we had a nice session. She has a three month old baby so I was able to enjoy some of the babies lunch. I really enjoy that....am I sick? Freud would probably have a field day with that. The only problem I have with Marilyn's and every other massage parlor is I hate the tables. Give me a bed anytime.
I saw Marilu at Queens and am always impressed with how she seems to relish her job. Hit the Sleepy Iguana and saw a new girl there by the name of Miriam. Apparently she's been on the job for just a week and isn't sure if that's what she wants to do. She's standoffish and a guy I talked to said he paid $100 to be with her. That's expensive but he wasn't complaining at all. She's 21, great looking with a super body. She's never been married, never had kids and is a university student. Not your typical girl. How long she lasts is anyone's guess, but it's nice to see a fresh face! There's supposed to be a new girlstarting on Wednesday if she gets her ID. Sweet looking and petite.
Went to Panama where I heard some really disturbing news from a friend. She blurted out that one of the girls working there had tested positive for HIV and was still working. At first I suspected that this was just one girl spreading trash about another but she told me that the girl had gotten pregnant and had an abortion in early March and this is when she found out. She wouldn't tell me the girl's name because she was a friend so I decided to go to another source to check it out. I talked to someone who worked at Panama and knew all the girls. I asked her if she knew of anyone who had an abortion in March. She was surprised that I knew about it because it was a big secret but she said that a girl named Elena or Nanita had been pregnant with a baby girl and ended it after 3 1/2 months. I asked her if she heard that she was HIV positive and she just shrugged her shoulders and said that obviously she didn't use condoms since she had gotten pregnant (I should have been able to figure that out myself...pregnant....no condom...HIV+...makes sense). She said that she thought at least two other girls working at Panama were HIV+. When I asked how that could happen, she told me that lots of girls would skip using condoms for an extra $5 or $10 bucks but nobody liked to talk about it. It's like if they don't talk about HIV it will go away. Needless to say, I'm avoiding Panama but I wonder if it isn't true of all the places.
Las Vegas was closed down for a while because some of the girls didn't have ID but it's back open. Nice place but it seems that the girls are getting bigger. Faustos has nice girls but I draw the line at paying $13 for a Bud Light for a girl. I want to get fucked, just not like that.
A lot of the clubs are complaining that it's hard to get decent new girls. I wonder if that has to do with the proliferation of girls on the streets.
A final thought : Why is it that the best looking girls on the street are always the transexuals?
Be safe and cover up!
Marcus66 Wrote: A final thought : Why is it that the best looking girls on the street are always the transexuals?
I'm afraid only Dr. Freud can help you there. Just kidding, I'm sure we all wonder the same thing. It is a shame some of them are actually men, but if you will also observe, they will not lie to you about actually being a woman.
Another observation I have made lately is not only an increase in gringo activity but more soldiers going into Mexico. Both Friday and Saturday night I saw platoons of them downtown. Whether they are returning from or going to Iraq, they certainly do deserve some R&R. I just hope they don't drive up prices.
The Filthy One
Maria Elena (Nanita) has been in the Panama for a long time. She is a cutie too. A little older at about 35 or so tho.
HIV stories have been a part of the scene there some time, I doubt if the owners would permit her to stay if they knew or thought sher had HIV, or any other disease.
Of course you have to worry about other places there. No-brainer there.
Went to the Sleepy Iguana tonight--Wednesday 7-28.
Saw this girl from El Paso, long black hair, 19 yo, very hot, UTEP student. I think her name was Angie.
She did almost everything I wanted, but wasn't a GFE. She kind-of makes you rush.
But left very happy. Very hot girl. Very clean there. Friendly American owner.
(okay, so it's not my best prose--I'm a little drunk :-)
Montana was closed tonight (Friday). Anybody know what's up with that? I was looking forward to Diana as the highlight of my visit.
I hooked up with a girl at Ano Nuevo named Lis. She is slender and has gold trimmed front teeth. Her body is quite nice, and she is pleasant, but not overly enthusiastic. I recommend her.
Clydesdale,
When I was down Tuesday evening, the Montaña was closed then too. I'm not sure whats up. They were open on the weekend.
I'm really strapped for cash so unfortunately I won't be able to go down this weekend.
uesday evening Sleepy Iguana had some new chicas. Someone reported on Angie. I spoke to her breifly and she is a real cutie. A little on the heavy side but thats ok, I don't have plans on lifting her. Remember, I said little heavy. Her cute dimples really do it for me.
The Filthy One
Coyote...UTEP student working her way through college in Juarez! This is especially interesting to me since I taught at UTEP last year. And, man, there are some real lookers that attend that fine institution of higher education!
However, one would think that an enterprising girl would realize that there is more money to be made on the US side of the border. She could start her own out-call operation over here and charge around $200 per visit. If she's anything like some of the chicas I had the previlege of teaching, I know one customer she could count on! Hell, even if she worked in the one of the strip clubs (which are usually not too picky about checking work permits), she could clear a hell of a lot more. Too bad I don't have the nerve to try the ***** bars, or I'd check her out for myself and maybe offer my services as a "financial advisor."
In any event, I paid another visit to Marilyn's this weekend. Yes, at the moment they have just about all that a guy could want. As Dreaming Eagle has stated, at this moment that place features some terrific, girl-next-door types, which in my book is the epitomy of the hobby. Sometimes, life is good!
I know...I know...I just can't keep my thoughts to myself when I should (I've lost several jobs that way). But I just have to write a note here to the moderator.
What is with this politically-correct, hypocritical bullshit about censoring?! As far as I can tell this whole forum is based upon the sexual exploitation of women, is it not?! I'm sorry...but this is the truth, whether we want to admit it or not, or whether we have a problem with it or not.
So, will someone please tell me how censoring words--words that can be heard on prime-time network television any day of the week--"purifies" this site?! In essence, what the moderator is telling us is that any sort of ACTION is okay, but we have to be selective in the type of WORDS we use to DESCRIBE the persons, places, and things involved. Does anyone other than I see a glaring contradiction here?!
So let's cut the shit and make this a truly open forum! Leave the hypocracy to the Bill Clintons and John Kerrys of this world (my apologies to all dems...I just couldn't resist the dig here...lol).
It's the nature of the words not the usage. In the posting guidelines can be found the following:
Banned Words: The words "*****", "*****" and "****" are not allowed because these words are commonly used to denigrate women, and that's not what this website is all about.
From there I would imagine it's auto-filtered. Not a biggie if you think about it.
And yes, this is SysOp ass-kissing. I'm still trying to get seniored.
Yeah, well, I figure it's Jackson's forum, and, having a successful web site of my own, I guess he can run it any way he wishes. You can always drop out if you don't like the rules. Running a sex site generates a lot of heat, and I'm sure he knows more than we do about what can and cannot be allowed to appear on these discussion forums.
Regarding hypocrasy, you don't have to look any further than the pinhead in the White House and company he keeps to find it, but I'm not going any further in politics than to respond this once to a political remark amazingly inappropriate on this forum. I think we should just let that topic drop.
Regarding the girl from UTEP, have you ever considered the fact running a call girl op in the US can land her in jail whereas there will never be any problems across the border?
Regarding the exploitation of women in Mexico, it truly is in places downtown where the owners get them hooked on drugs and dependent on the lifestyle. It truly is many places. In other places, like Marilyn, where anyone would believe it or not, the owners actually try to help the girls and put them on a better path. Economic conditions here are so poor in terms of alternatives for single women with children this attitude is a compassionate one, because otherwise they might be selling themselves on the street or in the bars downtown with all the concommitant dangers. When you really know what's going on here south of the border you know things cannot simply be distilled into a single condemnation like this forum is about the exploitation of women.
Perhaps that's what it's all about for you, but I don't think it is, because no one as intelligent as you are could think into the issues involved and say the things you said. It's sure not about exploitation for me, and I find it amusing that so many otherwise intelligent, accomplished people think they can sum it up in a single statement like yours in a pithy (they think) remark. If you tackle it with the same academic rigor you have tackled whatever discipline you have mastered, you will find this subject to be incredibly complex and lending itself to few moral judgments about either the girls or the men who come here for them. The girls need the money for their kids in most cases (for drugs in the worst cases), and we, being products of what is still essentially a puratanical culture, want the sexual opportunity with multiple partners by spending a little money. Both forces are as strong as the tides rising to the moon and cannot be stopped.
I like having the girls available, but I would rather cross the bridge one night and see a big sign saying "The flowers of this nation's youth are no longer available for any man with $30!" I would rather see them in school driving decent cars or married to somebody who cares about them. I would rather see them talking on their cell phones turning up their little busy-wizzy noses at older guys like us just like they do in the United States. But that's not how the creator made the world, so being kind to them, talking to them, bringing a few chocolates now and then, showing respect, and giving them a decent tip is the best I can do. Like it does for you most likely, it makes me feel young again to enjoy sex with them, and I can be thankful for that experience and wish for their sakes it would all go away at the same time. That's how complicated things really are here.
I think the forum is about a lot more than simply how to find the girls. That information is all here now. Now and then a new place opens, a new face appears. It's really the same old story told over and over again, and we are just the latest little trail of ants to follow the sugar trail to Mexico. There is a place for practical information, but there is also a place here to intelligently discuss underlying issues such as those raised in your post. Although I disagree with the tone of your comments, I thank you for them for that reason.
Nice to write from my place in Juarez for a change. Cablemas is offering 38 channels and internet for only $38 a month...with the internet a man can make a living anywhere.
I can't hold back my thoughts either TRex. I have met 3 posters from this board and all have been great guys and I look forward to meeting more. (mongerpalozza time again??) I think the "rules" we must abide by here keep out the riff raff. Spelling, capitalization, puctuation and such are such simple things but I think if we meet a higher standard we are mongers of a higher standard.
I see no problem with using the word *****, as in *****house but when refering to a particular chica as a ***** may be a bit out of line as some guys get attached to these girls. It avoids any hurt feelings or flame wars. If someone mentioned that so and so at Queens place is a ***** then that might offend me or someone else. (me, offended?? yeah right). I hope I made sense here.
TRex, if I may suggest, MPs are great, they have their advantages but I love the social aspects of bar hopping. I like talking to the chicas and waiters and doormen. I also like a good one hour massage with sex but its an in and out type thing for me. You should go to the Sleepy Iguana and visit your student (laughing out loud) She is a real cutie.
One last thing TRex, what are those dems up to? Are they trying to stop the war in Iraq? I feel President Bush needed no justification in invading. He created a terrorist battleground. Its better to fight them there than to have to worry about car bombs here.
The Filthy (opinionated) One
TRe,
Yeah, I’ve been to UTEP & the girls are just something else. One actually made me trip on the sidewalk.
I’ve wondered why Angie wouldn’t set up her own service in El Paso too, but I suppose she feels safer working at a club where someone can watch her back. Plus, as DreamingEagle said, there’s the legal issues.
RE censorship, yeah if it was my forum I probably wouldn’t have so many rules. But it’s Jackson’s & those are his rules.
RE exploitation, I don’t thing women who choose to work as prostitutes are being “exploited” any more than any other worker in any other job.
Does McDonald’s “exploit” workers by requiring them to serve hamburgers?
BBond wrote that he doubted that the owners of Panama would allow a girl to stay if they knew she was HIV+. That's probably true although these guys are gaining a very poor reputation in the business. The source of the rumors about Elena (Nanita) at Panama testing positive for HIV is a very inside source. I doubt that the owners are aware. This source told me that Elena (real name Laura Reyes according to her ID although even that name is bogus) has an 18 year old son, Javier, who is in jail for drugs, a 16 year old daughter, Claudia, with a two year old daughter, Jacqueline. She lives with a drug dealing low life named Eduardo, who claims he works for the police which isn't true. Elena told Eduardo that Javier and Claudia were her brother and sister because she knew he didn't want the baggage of two kids (nothing like truth in a relationship).
I met an American trucker who got ripped off by her to the tune of $400. She apparently doesn't use condoms because the abortion she had is proof of that. I know that she borrowed money from the owner of San Souci and didn't repay it until the threat of physical violence was raised. Is it much of a leap to think she could be HIV+ and would lie about it? As I said, my source has a great deal of detail about this woman. My suggestion is that this is one woman who definitely needs to be avoided. You expect lies when you deal with the girls down there, you just don't want to lose your money or catch some disease.
On a lighter note, I went to the club Las Vegas the other night and saw an amazing performance on a pole by a nice looking girl. I've seen her before but I can't remember where. Does this ring a bell with anyone?
Okay...I had a bit too much wine last night; and I was really pissed off when I saw that a perfectly good word I had used was censored. As soon as I went to bed I knew I had probably openned up a can of worms, which was not my intention. I just wanted to vent a little. This symbolic gesture to make the things discussed on this forum seem socially acceptable (?) or kinder and gentler (?) is just downright silly. Please tell me, to whom is this gesture directed (perhaps the National Organization of Women)?
And I hate to tell you guys this, but the riff raff is here (hell, I may even be one of them!). True, most of the posts on the JUAREZ site are informative, interesting, and fun to read. And although I have never met anyone from the CJ forum, I have no doubt that Mugroso and the people he has met really are good guys. But have you read some of the other forums on the WSG? Personally, I can't stomach much of them.
I should add that the comments in my first post about the UTEP student were meant to be taken tongue-in-cheek--just trying to have a little fun.
Dreaming Eagle...I have the utmost respect for you and for your opinions. We will simply have to agree to disagree on the issue of exploitation. But would you admit that EVERYONE is exploited in one sense or another? I think there are vastly different levels of exploitation; but I find it difficult to rationalize prostitution as being anything but that. So, I (like you) try to minimize the exploitation factor as mush as possible when I am practicing my hobby. But I still think it's exploitation...why else would we have to pay the girls?
Which leads me back to the kinder, gentler language forced upon us here. Although I try to act as civilized as possible when I indulging in my hobby, I see forums like this one as the equivalent of the guys hanging out in the garage talking about their exploits (pardon the pun). It just seems to me that certain (banned) words are appropriate in this kind of setting. Once again, I think ACTIONS are much more important than WORDS.
Of course, this is all just my opinion, for what that is worth. And what the hell do I know? I'm just a sexually-focussed, chronologically-advanced member of the male gender (i.e. dirty old man). (Hope that satisfies the censors, as well as the NOW!)
And Mugroso...I have considered the bars-in-which-prostitution-is solicited (see, I'm learning to defer to the censors); but I'm somewhat scared of walking around that part of Juarez at night, especially in regard to being harassed by the police.
But if you could post a picture of the UTEP cutie, I might be encouraged to give the Sleepy Iguana a try! We only live once, right?!
TRex,
I will second your observation about some of the other boards on WSG. Most of the others degenerate into some sort of pizzing match between members about price,best place ,blah blah.My theory? I think that is directly tied into the photo sections of each. If you notice , there are basically no pix from our board, and all of us are happy to keep our gems to ourselves. When the photos flo freely, problems start..male egos...etc...
I am part of another board that has had it's moments, but has stabilized much like this one, and is a pleasure to add to ( hence my high post count), and has now yielded the opportunities to hook up with long time mongers there. This is a great thing
I met Angie the UTEP girl @ Panama, in Dec 2003, she was cute, but did'nt trip my trigger.
How do you get to the Sleepy Iguana from the Santa fe bridge? I would hope to walk to avoid the cabbies.
Thanks for the help.
Went to the Sleepy Iguana Saturday night and it looks like business is picking up. There was a nice crowd and people seemed to be having a good time. There were a couple of new girls that I had never seen there before. One was a tall blonde (6' in heels?) and another was a shorter blonde with a great body. Nice to see the place getting some more girls although I have to confess, I like brunettes more than blondes. It seems like word is getting round and I think you'll see a steady influx of girls starting to work there. Had a new drink called a Border Blaster (Red Bull and Tequila) that they ad on special, 2 for $5. It was kind of nice to drink something other than a beer. I would like to see a more steady stream of dancers. I don't expect it to be like Queens or Vegas, but it's a little too inconsistent now!
Walked over to Vegas and was surprised at a couple of really nice girls, slender and brunette. Sometimes Vegas has some really nice girls and sometimes it's a fat farm. Queens is the same way, not surprising I guess since they've got the same owner. I do like those days when the fat farm is closed down.
And now my 3 centavos:
The analogy of the boys hanging in the garage is a good one but I think it's more like we're hanging in someone's home and they're in the kitchen. If they don't want to hear it then we are in no position to question it. That's life.
Also the times are a changing socially. I sit home and listen to the little 10 & 11 year old wannabe hood rats outside calling each other by the "n-word" that most people of my generation would cringe to. "It's what we say, dog". Sheeesh. No respect for anything but that seems to be the way it is.
Exploitation. Let's think about who is really being exploited here. Us or them. (tongue in cheek humor)
I've visited some other forums here and some are beyond pissing matches. Some of the threads have nothing to do with nothing other than defaming other users, their choices & opinions.
That's why I love it here. Always a smooth flow of info and experiences. The level of respect for each other's postings is unique. It's great. In one of my first postings here I had used the H-word that also gets filtered. I had emailed Jackson to check if I may violated a guideline. The reasoning was explained & I respect the wishes of the administration here. I might not agree with all of it and may not understand all of it but, as I've said, that's life and it is his house.
Service provider has much more of a classier ring to it. Harder to type but hey.
Now, let's get back to talking about the best hobby in the world & the service bars of Juarez!
On the Sleepy Iguana - BorderRat had posted that it was a block up from Casa. Now if I was standing in front of Casa and was looking in the direction of the gym where would Sleepy Iguana be?
If you want to go to Sleepy Iguana and avoid the taxis, the easiest way from the Santa Fe bridge is to take an immediate right after coming off the bridge. Do not walk up Juarez Ave. Go one short block and turn left. The road will fork, take the right fork. You'll be going through a neighborhood, don't be alarmed it is perfectly safe. Go five blocks to Calle Maria Martinez. The San Souci (Casa Colorado) will be on your right. Turn left and the Sleepy Iguana is 50' up on your right hand side. Can't miss it. If you go another 100' you'll hit the Municipal Gymnasium.
Cienega32
As you exit the Casa Colorada walk towards the gym. On the first block on the corner is the Sleepy Iguana. Hell, you don't need to go to the Casa as you will have to pass the Sleepy Iguana to get there
Who wants to go to the Casa anyways? I just don't like them. The girls may be cool and all but, well I'll stop there. They are on my Juarez guide but not on the tours I offer on my website.
The Filthy (newly seniored) One
Mug,
I have no interest in the Casa either. It was just for sense of bearing relating to BorderRat's post. I'm trying to remember the walk to Casa and it's getting fuzzy. That's not good. Need a refresher. Need to get back. Need a chica fix. Argh!
Mugroso,
I agree with your assessment of the Casa Colorado being a place to avoid at all cost.
The last time I was in there a few truckers came in so I started talking to them. In no time the big fat guy that owns or manages the place sent the madam over to inform me that I could stay if I just wanted to drink my beer but that I was not to speak with the truckers. They would have to some real knockouts in there for me to put up with that sort of treatment. Which they don't have.
I don't know why anyone would put up with that type of treatment when there are so many other damn options available.
I guess the casa is not interested in having repeat customers and would rather gouge uninformed truckers that they van in from surrounding truck stops. Needless to say the Casa Colorado is on my avoid list. On a scale of 1-10 I give them a 1 based on their shitty attitude.
I'm going to work on finding a place a can give a better review to for my next post. Who knows if I get real brave one of these days I might check out the scene around the cathedral. Does anyone on this board have any info on the cathedral area action? I wonder if it is as scary as the locals would have me believe?
ChuCho Dan
I'm afraid of the catherdral are because of all the gays that hang out there. Sometimes I have waited for a chica there during the day and they always try to pick me up.
The area locals try to warn you about is the market area. It is fine in the day for shopping but at night watch out. There are several bars in the market area which is fine for locals but even I, with my years of experience won't venture down there at night. Well once I did but I left before anything could happen.
I took Clydesdale down there around dusk during the last mongerpalozza. We went into Panchangas, walked in, and walked out. The women were absolutely scarey.
If you insist on giving it a try, go in the daytime. I'm sure action can be had in the day. If you don't get any action the market place is a great place to go shopping have an agua fresca and just see the people pass by. I love it there.
Oh yeah, I forgot to mention, a good portion of the market place burned down about 2 weeks ago. One building looked really torched and I am not sure what else went down.
The Filthy One
I have been in the market area around midnight, and was not the least bit concerned for my safety. It is heavily police patrolled.
But I won't go back, absolutely no reason to. The girls that work in there, work there for a reason. They are just too scary looking to work anywhere else. You can get laid in there for $5, if you can stand it. That is a locals market and they can have it. The bars in there, smell bad, really bad.
Mug,
"burned down" .. are you talking about Mercado Juarez or the stalls now around the cathedral? When I was there July 4, everything was fine. What happened? didn't see anything in the EPTimes about a fire.
[b]the last time i was in there a few truckers came in so i started talking to them. in no time the big fat guy that owns or manages the place sent the madam over to inform me that i could stay if i just wanted to drink my beer but that i was not to speak with the truckers.[/b]
chucho dan,
you have to look at this from the casa's point of view. the truckers don't pay money to go down to juarez so they can chit-chat with other guys. they can do that at any bar in the united states. believe it or not, they go down there to get laid. as long as you're talking with any of the customers, you're preventing them from getting what they went down there for.
i was once in this situation. i had just sat at the bar, and some guy comes and sits next to me and talks to me for about 30 minutes. i didn't want to be rude to the guy and tell him to take a hike, or have him get offended and start a fight. so i just sat there and listened to him like some therapist. the madam finally came and told the guy something and he got mad and left. i'm guessing she told him the same thing she told you. i thanked her for getting rid of the guy and i found myself a cute, petite 20 year old to drink with and then i took her upstairs.
once the guy left, the casa and the girls started making money off of me. that is the reason they have a business. i'd bet they could care less if you talked with the customers, just as long as they've already made their trip up to the room.
i hope any new people out there don't get discouraged about the casa. it's a great little bar, and the people there are really friendly. i've been going to this bar for 3 years now and i don't have one complaint. well maybe just one. i wish they'd hire a lot more of those petite 18-21 year olds. i'd sure be down there a lot more often than i go down there now.
zuzax out
I'm glad there are people that the casa has yet to alienate because I have actually had some memorable encounters over there in the past. Not to offend anyone it's just been a little to long since I've enjoyed myself in there to remain on my rounds.
Instead I've been dropping into Don Felix and the Yankes bar lately. Don Felix has a decent little free lance scene if thats your cup of tea. It seems to me that about 90% of the girls are available for a price and that with the other 10% you just might get lucky with. I like the thrill of the hunt and being able to drink regular priced drinks with the girls. I frankly cant stomach the $12 tang drinks some of the girls try to hit you up for in some of the titty bars. After we have some drinks I usually end up taking them to Arbolitos to have some of their legendary ChuChus. Then after negotiating a price thats usually between $20-$30, I take them across the street and pay for the $7 short term hotel.
As for the market it burned down last week on that day when it was overcast and drizzling all day. They apparantely had a lot of caged animals for sale in there that unfortunately were cremated by the fire.
Too bad we don't have a poll section here. I'd like to take a poll. What is your top 5 all time favorite massage parlors? Please post your results here or Private message me.
My top 5 are
1. Paraiso on Malecon
2. Genesis on Montes de Oca
3. Marylins on Del Ejido
4. Venus on Lincoln(?). I've only been there once, lots off fine babes at the time.
5. Stefanies in WaterFill. Its been so long, I don't know if they are still open.
I've rated them based on the good times good massage and fine babes that I have encountered in the various MPs.
Thanks guys
The Filthy One
I would like to hear more about the market fire myself. I was last there June 1st and they were still excavating the one area. I was told it was to give the Cathedral booths a better place to be. They wanted to move them away from the Cathedral area.
I enjoy walking thru the market and watching the culture. I really dig the atmosphere of it all. The booths and general congestion give a nice impression to me. One trip I went thru with a video camera and a digital still camera. Had fun with it all as the friendly people would ham it up for the camera. Most everyone would wave or "Hola" and no one had a problem with it - except the bar chicas. Man, they would scurry!. I was grateful as none were of the type that I wanted to capture to film.
I went back to that area after sundown and I thought better against wandering around in there. No reason other than uncharted ground and being by myself. I felt that way about wandering up Mariscal from the Cathedral area when I first checked out Juarez. Now it's a bee-line to it and I'm very comfortable with walking around in the Zona.
As far as the Cathedral area being a gay hangout at nite - I had no idea! I didn't know it was a thing that was so socially obvious in Mexico. I know of one or two bars in the Zona that are gay based, but didn't expect a public gathering area. I always thought they were people who were their for the religious aspect of it.
Responding to Mugroso's poll:
1. Marylin
2. Venus
3. Felinas (on Jose Borunda)
4. Sirenas (on Hermanos Escobar)
5. El Encanto (on Hermanos Escobar)
The ratings are heavily weighted toward 'what have you done for me lately?' Venus has had some of the most spectacular babes I've found, but they tend to upsell. There used to be a chica named Paula there that was truly exquisite.
Genesis almost made the list, but that would have been based only on Candy. Paraiso usually has good looking babes, but I've never had a real super experience there. Maybe I need to make that a 1st stop sometime rather than a 'one more time' on the way out of town.
I just returned from two days in Juarez, Saturday and Sunday, and was pleasantly surprised at how the town is cleaning up and changing.
ChuCho, the fat guy is Ricardo Moro, husband of the owner and all around asshole. But from what I'm told by others and after having a rather lengthy conversation with him Saturday night, he ain't got long in this world. His livers shot and his idea of following doctors orders to quit drinking was to switch from a liter of rot gut tequilla a night to a case and a half of Corona every night. Oh well, good riddance and as I told a friend. Notify me when he dies cause I want to be at his funeral to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] on his caskeT!
But, back to the story. All told, Saturday, I made five crossing into and out of Juarez. I was astounded that the Zaragosa bridge into the U.S. was virtually empty at 11:00 in the morning. Tambien, the Cordova bridge twice at various times throughout the afternoon. Even coming back across the Cordova briefly at 0200 sunday morning to deposit a load of docile drunks on the U.S. side, the wait was only like 10 minutes. 10 minutes shared next to a carload of teeny boppers who kept flashing their tits at us.
First off I gotta tell you guys. Get to the San Souci and check out a new girl, Jessica Rodriguez from Durango. She's been there 2 days as of Saturday night and she is fucking fantastic. Took her out toda la noche to Campo Real (more on this spot in a moment) and she definately didn't disappoint. This girl has innocence written all over her face. A small mole on her right cheek will ID her for you. But the first thing you'll notice is the 38DD on a 110 pouind frame. Small waisted and skinny ass completes the package and she has a laser visa. Ya'll need to try her before she becomes jaded and money hungry.
Went to Queens with a couple of friends and admired the stock on stage. One real cutie but the tattoos were a turn off. Buddy of mine hooked up with one, I never got her name who looked a little like Mary Ann from Gilligans Island and spoke pretty decent english. Wearing a black bikini, she was sitting with friends at a table under the big screen TV.
Checked out the New Panama Club and met the gringo owners, Jon and Leo. Nice renovations but the stock is so so. Never cared for the place much since I got thrown out of there a few years back.
Stuck my head in the Sleepy Iguana for a sec to check it out. This place has possibilities and hopefully, it will give Ricardo a run for his money. Nice but small. Only drawback is Sheila, the negotiator from Panama is working here. Me and that ***** do not get along so I didn't stay.
Had a couple of truck drivers with me (stole them from Ricardo) and they discovered a little hole in the wall next to Club 4-10 which is caddy corner from the Sleepy Iguana in the alley. Next to this bar is a true to life w_h_o_r_e_h_o_u_s_e! These boys thought they'd found heaven. Nothing I would touch but they were drunk and keeping score and $20.00 FS couldn't be beat. 4-6's here.
Okay, Jessica and I got the docile drunks (10 in all) rounded up, across the border and back to their trucks and headed back across the Zaragosa bridge to the Campo Real Motel. If ya'll haven't found this place, check it out! A word of warning though. I took a couple of guys out there and although they rented rooms, they were ready to go as soon as it was dark. For folks like myself and Dreaming Eagle who are comfortable with the locals, this is a fantastic place and the price is right. This is basically a locals hangout. You have a gigantic round club inside a compound which has probably 50 rooms to rent for 200-300 pesos per night. This place is astonishingly clean, secure and safe. They have security booths at each of the entrances and roving security. Each room has its own attahced garage with door (like the La Siesta) and all rooms are immacualtely clean. For $200.00 pesos you get a basic room with ice cold A/C, shower and queen size bed, For $270.00 pesos, you can get a room with a king size bed, ditto on the A/C, 2 person whirlpool tub (This scared the hell outta Jessica) mirros on the walls and ceilings etc. This is a description of room 16 that I had. The whole compound is surrounded by a wall. What makes this special? Hookers, w_h_o_r_e_s, putas, whatever you want to call them, 5-9's in the club and walking the compound for your inspection all night. Prices? Average of $40.00 although as the night wears on, the prices are more negotiable. Best of all, the Campo Real is less than a mile from the Zaragosa bridge. In this area there are numerous ladies bars and a topless club called the Black Stallion about a block away towards the bridge.
Sunday, took Jessica back to the bar after having brunch at a little seafood restaraunt right at the Zaragosa crossing. Caldo de Camerones, GOOOD! A little extra for her and off on my own to the MP's. unfortunately, having to supposedly be in Laredo Sunday night, I opted for Genesis and my buddies, the brothers Lopez. Candy was on the schedule but unfortunately not working. They were short handed with only Paola, Janet, Mabrely and Selina working.. Chose "M", I think, about 20 with a ridiculous auburn wig but gave fantastic service for $300.00 pesos. Matter of fact, she wanted to go again after the first pop and not being one to deny a lady...
That's about it. Sorry but I don't write about the act itself or prices as it might cause problems with Ricardo, but if you take Jessica out for the night, don't jump on the first price given. It can be had for less.
Oh yeah, forgot to mention this, but it is the gospel truth. Chito at Club Laura's seems to be in the kidnapping business. Thi is a no shitter. One of the truckers came down Friday night and took one of Chitos girls out todo la noche for an agreed upon price of $150.00. After a couple of hours in a motel across town, she suddenly HAD to return to the bar for something. So they took a cab back to LAura's. Once there, and here it gets a bit hazy, but she demanded an additional $200.00 for the rest of the night. They ended up not back at the motel but at the apartments across from the bar that Chito owns. The girl took the money and left, and two goons locked this man in the room until 4 pm Saturday afternoon. Don't know if it was a drug deal gone bad or what the f_u_c_k was happening, but guys, stay away from this place. Even Ricardo, when made aware of the situation was pissed, and not because he didn't get a cut either. Needless to say, Club Laura's doors were locked by 10 Saturday night.
My personal MP rating:
1) Marilyn's ****
2) El Encanto ****
3) Roma ***
4) Venus ***
5) Felinas **
As expressed elsewhere on this board, the chicas featured in these establishment fluctuate so much that's it's really difficult for them to be consistent. That being said, over the past year, there have been more girls that reve my motor at Marilyn's than any other place. I know many of you are familiar with Mariana--but anyone remember Christina or Lizette (both long gone); or Johana (recently left)? Wow! And now they have at least three real babes in attendance (see previous posts).
I give El Encanto a close second. In addition to Lorena (who was aptly described as "the bomb"), I've been with some other very good looking and very capable chicas there. In fact, I don't think I have ever walked out the door without having found someone who interested me. My only complaint is that the place does not seem very clean or kept up; and if you use the shower the water spills out onto the (sorry excuse for a) carpet. It's a miracle that I've never caught athlete's foot there!
In my experience, both Roma and Venus are more iffy as to the number of quality girls. I have walked out of both many times without being serviced. However, these two are among the most clean, comfortable, and nicely furnished MPs in CJ. I give the nod to Roma because the going rate is $30 (instead of Venus' $40), and because the chicas don't try to upsell, which is s.o.p. at Venus. Still, I have had some good experiences at Venus. As I've mentioned in earlier posts, Alejandra (gone for over a year) was probably the prettiest and horniest girl I've met in my hobbying career.
Felinas: quite clean and comfortable; but I've only availed myself of their services on just a couple of occasions simply because I've seldom seen anything there that interests me. However, no up-selling occured during my two experiences.
I'm really interested in finding out some more information about Paraiso...I've never even heard of it until today! Anyone willing to give general directions and expound more upon the facilities and current crop of chicas?
Great reports guys
About Chito and his kidnappings, I don't know what to think. I've heard so many bad things about the guy, but he has always been square and kind to me. Last I heard, he had retired and turned the place over to his son, Tommy. This came from Tommy himself and we have gotten along fine as well, albeit with one small misunderstanding that kept me away for a while. But I have had many good experiences there and will continue to frequent the place. But keep in mind Laura's is still a full-service facility, if you know what I mean. And I think you do...lol. As far as the trucker getting locked up, maybe he deserved it. Ordering takeout with a girl you don't know well is always a risky proposition.
About the market area. I like that place. It's great for people watching and meeting non-pro's. If you don't know, its down at the end of Juarez Avenue, near the buses. At the end, jog right and then left onto a pedestrian street, walk a block and then turn right onto "de la paz" which is another ped street. At this point you will be heading towards the cathedral, but you won't see it. On your left you will see a couple bars and if you look into the small alleyways, there will be girls looking for you. If you don't speak Spanish, don't bother with them. Try your luck with the salesgirls in the many booths. Or decide to get a haircut and walk around until you find the prettiest girl who is cutting hair and let her have her way with your locks...lol. I've been to a few bars in the area and the ones on the outskirts of the market are definitely better than those in the middle. You can find a nice bartender lady sometimes which is way better than any working girl IMO......BR
Mugroso, is Paraiso even still open?? I went by there not too long ago and the place appeared to be shut down. Or did they move to a new location?? The old one was upstairs in a little horseshoe shaped office building right across from the big Rotary Club sign just off Av. Lincoln.
I have a list also:
(1) Sirenas
(2) Felinas
(3) El Encanto
(4) Marilyns
(5) Corpus
Sirenas is tops because they ALWAYS have fine women, and they are SO damn convenient. So what if they are $10 more than the "going rate". Convenience is also what gets El Encanto it's high mark, otherwise it would rate below Marilyns. I would rate Marilyns higher if it weren't so far off the beaten path. Brenda's gets honorable mention, along with Roma and Loryed. Genesis and Venus don't make my list. Also don't know where to put Consuelo, Michaels or Musas, they are too hit and miss. Genesis has gone the way of the clubs in the Zona with the dragging truckers across and such. I guess it is a successful business model for them though, I hope the others don't follow suit.
Peter Girth.
The truckers money is as green as yours and spends just the same. What's your problem with this group?
I'm happy to report I've found both Diana1 and Diana2, formerly of Montana. They're both now at Las Vegas. Las Vegas was particularly well stocked last night.
Clydesdale
That is great to hear they are both still available. I'd love to break down Diana #1. I have spoken to several people and they say she just won't give it up. Well, time to put on some charm.
By the way, whats up with the Montaña? I haven't really had the chance to ask anyone. I was down Wednesday and it was still closed. I guess it is for the best, the Las Vegas is much more closer to the rooms.
The Filthy One
I went down to the centro Thursday afternoon, and the cops were out in full force. I saw them shake some poor sucker down just over the bridge. The cop kept insisting that this guy empty his pockets while, this poor guy kept insisting that the money was his. It's a pretty sickening experience if you've ever been shaken down by Jaurez's finest.
After witnessing this I decided to hit the bars with the intention of only drinking a few Bohemias and then heading out to find Marilyns. Well that never happened 3 bohemias lead to about 12 so, instead I just settled on going to Cleopatras for a massage.
When I entered there were only about 5 girls in the line up. I chose the cute and flaca Marisa for $35. Once on the table she proceeded to go down on me bareback without me even asking. She then told me to tell her when I was ready for the condom. After, I requested the condom, she got on top of me and started to ride and spin. All in all a good experience the only drawback was that her kitty was a little on the stinky side. As I was exiting I noticed that a new batch of girls had arrived nothing spectacular but a good selection. Maybe next time I'll get out to Marilyns.
The ChuChu Meister
mugroso - i asked diana2 why montana was closed, and she really didn't answer - or maybe i didn't understand.
make sure you report if get into 1's thong. i bought 1 a drink last night, which peeved off 2, but not so bad she wouldn't go to the room. i had them both lap dancing me at the same time last night. 2 is definitely a better lap dancer than 1. 1 is pretty cute with that oriental looking face.
i spotted your favorite going into las vegas last night as i was leaving. she was looking hot as ever.
Regarding Ricardo at Casa, he doesn't think about whether he's running off business or think at all. Like Border Jumper said, he's a dying alcoholic, and he's always been a jerk. On the other hand, I met some sweet, hot girls at Casa once upon a time, one or two I can't forget. Zuzax is definitely the house expert on Casa.
I would not have the faintest clue about how to rate the masajes, but I do agree that Christina and Jovana are about the finest lovers I ever ran across in the MPs. The new crop at Marilyn's has thinned out a bit, but Sergio is looking. The young one, Sandra, would never bring him any papers proving her age, so he let her go. That was one wild uninhibited young woman, I'll tell you that much, proving experience is not always what it's cracked up to be with sex. She was born to please a man. I'll bet she resurfaces somewhere else, long black hair in curly strands, perfect smile, perfect face, perfect teeth. Came into my arms french kissing me as though we were old lovers long parted. The massage table was going "ee-ah-ee-ah-ee" so fast and hard I really feared it was going to collapse and ruin everything. Perfect body, too, but, believe it or not, it all happened so fast I never bothered to remove her bra until afterwards, when she stayed cuddled up on the table with me well, well over the alloted hour. It's a priviledge I try not to abuse, but no one ever rushes me at Marilyn. I had Jovana three times one morning and learned the word "agotado" from her. She was laughing when she said it though, and happy. I almost made a full court press for that girl to make her mine and "save her" from prostitution, but my better judgment and sense of self-control got the upper hand.
Then again, Sirena has had some gems, too. El Encanto is always a sure deal, but when I lived nearby, Corpus and Felinas often surprised me. Like someone said, it's just such an ever changing scene it's hard to say. I do agree Venus upsells, and I can't tolerate that.
Since I've had everyone I want at Sergio's place, I guess I'll try something new this weekend and hopefully have some kind of news later this weekend.
Dropped by Masaje Sirena to see Vicente today, and, I must report, he has three or four real stunners on duty now.
They also have new hours: 11:30 - 10 p.m., Monday through Sunday.
It's previously been closed on Sundays for as long as I can remember.
I didn't have time to get girls but I smoked some great MOTA (weed).
I saw many fine as ladies running around. I was temped to spend a few minutes with a young hotty but buisness comes first. And I didnt have time for sex. But when I get back to juarez I wanna hook up with some regular juarez mongers and do some serious whoring. !!
Later
Bubba
Big Bubba,
I didn't understand much of anything from that (previously unedited) post, except that you must have had a great time doing something, so ROCK ON brother!!!
The Burciaga Hotel. I stayed there this weekend. Not a bad place. It is located on calle Ugarte, you can get there by going down Mariscal all the way down to the "pollo" resturant just before you get to Las Palmeras. Take a left on Ugarte and look for the sign hanging over the street.
They have a little courtyard parking area. The parking access is very easy to miss while driving and it is very narrow. My truck barely fits. I'd say it is safe parking since nothing happened over the weekend.
The rooms are clean but nothing fancy. The rooms located on the street can be noisy because of all the traffic on Ugarte. Otherwise I recommend this place. The cost is 250 pesos a night.
Sorry guys, I got lots of pics and stories to tell about the weekend but this is about an old flame that you won't be able to find any where in Juarez. Against our wishes I sent her back to Chihuahua Sunday. I would love for her to stay but until she is able to cross the border I don't want her here. Needless to say you won't be able to find her on my website. (Big smiley face)
The not so Filthy One
Saturday night in Juarez:
I took Angela to Juarez and told her that I was going to the Sleepy Iguana. After we did are horitzontal dance, I showed her the SI. Not much was going on there. Seem that the girls just sat away from us, but not much guy are there. The time was 11pm so not sure if they pick up later?
After SI, I walked to most of the bars and hit Queens to see Alejandra. She was there but was busy with other guy. The night seemed slow also but the Las Vegas was jumping. Saw Diana #2 and had a nice talk with her. Great out fit!
Hit the street and saw this cutie girl next to the gym. As her how much and she said 10. Went to the near by hotel and she did a ok BBBJ and good to very good FS. For got her name by very nice.
Get late around 3 and bumped into Melissa. This time we stayed till 7 when I got back to El Paso.
What a great day!
Scoup
Ahhh, Mugroso - you've done it again. I should start calling you Magoo. I've wondered about that place the last few trips down. It seemed to be decently located.
I don't need fancy but clean is a plus. Tell me - they have regular shower heads, hot water, and toilet seats there? No chica problems at Burciaga I would imagine?
Cienega32
The place is decent enough. The toilets have seats, you have to wait a couple of minutes for the hot water to come out and the shower head squirts every where. It is a cheap alternative for someone from out of town and doesn't want to pay higher prices in El Paso. Its right where all the action is.
Magoo? As in Mr. Magoo?
Thanks for the info.
Yes - as in Mr Magoo but only for usage of the line "You've done it again!" not for the actual reasons for it.
I was in a joint on Ave Juarez, I think, (Hotel Juarez maybe?) and the chica said that the water gets hot but you have to wait for it. No showerhead - just the gooseneck. 10 minutes later I concluded that we had different ideas of hot or of waiting. Didn't slow her down in jumping in there but not me. $22 shitbox. Left my socks on the whole time.
I've TLN in Hotel Del Rio a few times. Plenty of hot water for those extended "him & her" shower funtimes, loud headboards (had them knocking on the door to check on chica!), no A/C, noisy ceiling fans. $20 I think it was. This was over 2 years ago and my first Juarez experience. It also was with a food server chica who wanted nothing but a good time. She got many! This first experience is what made me fall in love with Juarez. It just felt so "Old Mexico" to my noobie gringo mind.
Masaje Sirena has a new web site:
www.sirena-massageparlor.com
As one walks about the streets of downtown Juarez, please be advised that the police are now out and about more than ever. Especially bad are those on the bicycles..they weren't out for awhile..but now they're back. I have roaamed these streets for years and have been stopped and "frisked" twice in the last month. Was with a friend the last time and we were both robbed. When they ask to see your ID, don't let them go through your wallet..you keep it in hand against the wall as they search you. Not a good idea to smell like you just drank a 6-pack at the last cantina, either, or they might hual you in to the carcel. You HAVE to show your ID, but remove it and hang on to your wallet.
I am also told if you get stopped by a cop that's REAL bad, they have been known to slip a powder in your pocket and accuse you of using drugs. You need to note a badge number if possible, and if robbed, and can identify them..you can go to calle oro and the 16th of septiembre and report them. But then you must return and pick them out in a "line-up." Have fun and go with cuidado.
Hey fellow mongers,
I will be driving from Southern Cal. to Dallas next weekend and I am planning to stop in El Paso for a night. I was thinking of going down to Jaurez for the evening but know nothing about it. I was hoping to get some help in the following areas.
1 - Best places to go.
2 - How much I could expect to pay.
3 - Info on crossing the border. Is it best to drive over or park
on the US side and take cabs.
Any help would be appreciated. You PM me if you like.
Buddha
The cops are the only thing about Ciudad Juarez I don't like. Hence, I never drive at night and never when drinking. In fact I only drink in the house, unless I am cabbing, which is kind of a drag. I wonder if the powers that be have any idea how much the city is losing in lost tourism because of these monkeys.
[quote][i]I will be driving from Southern Cal. to Dallas next weekend and I am planning to stop in El Paso for a night. I was thinking of going down to Jaurez for the evening but know nothing about it. I was hoping to get some help in the following areas.
1 - Best places to go.
2 - How much I could expect to pay.
3 - Info on crossing the border. Is it best to drive over or park
on the US side and take cabs.
Any help would be appreciated. You PM me if you like.
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There is a lot of info posted right here, go back and read some of the posts, places and directions are plentiful.
T Boutis wrote: Any help would be appreciated. You PM me if you like.
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bbond wrote in response: There is a lot of info posted right here, go back and read some of the posts, places and directions are plentiful.
T Boutis
If going through this forum proves to be an endeavour just private message me and I will sort of help you. But give the forum a try, there is way too much information here.
Anyone going down this weekend. If any one sees my "ladies" tell them I have been to busy (broke) to come on down.
The Filthy One
OK guys, trust me, do not miss out!
There is a girl at Pink Lady named Roxanne who is a perfect 10! Imagine if you will, she's tall about 5'11" in heels, blonde, model thin, natural breasts, brown eyes, gorgeous smile. LOADED with attitude, but will get down and dirty in the back room for $80.
Seriously, I have seen girls at the MPs with bodies this good like Nohemi and Mariana from Marilyns, and I have seen girls at the bars like Yvette who was seriously hot 8-9 range, but this girl is off the charts, a real TEN. We had gone to The Joker right before hitting Pink Lady, and this girl was as fine as the girls from there, but without the silicone implants.
And hotties travel in packs, she is always there with a girl named Odalis who is just as pretty but shorter (and a little less self-absorbed). So, if one is occupied, there is a VERY good replacement.
Do Yourself A Favor and check her out, usually there on Thursday-Saturday.
Went to the Sleepy Iguana for the first time last night and found it to be a great place, very clean and several nice looking girls to pick from. Anyone who has not tried it should do so because it is one of the finer places in Juarez in my opinion.
I know you guys say .3$ is the standard fee for J-town.
But at the SI & Pink Lady they always ask for at least .8$.
Is .3$ standard for those places too?
And is it for an hour?
What's your opinion?
I've been fucked over so many times in J-town I can't eat solid foods anymore.
Went to Sleepy Iguana today.. Only one girl dancing. She didnt look att that so I left and caught a cab to Sarena? MP. Was met by Lilly. She looked in the late 20's early 30's. Nice face, beautiful body and tits. Very friendly. The massage was really good. And mind yo, I am seeing a chiropractor for my back, and they have to turn the electrodes on high for me to even feel it (oh i am only 24). The CBJ was nice. real nice and the FS was great. Only .40 with no discussion of a tip. The only thing is I don't speak spanish so there was no small talk or anything. She offered a shower. Next time I am gonna take her up on it.
What is going on with the LE in J town? Are they beginning to crack down on the SWs? LE was out in full effect last night on bikes and the usual Dodge Pick Ups. One SW thought I was LE. Took a while to convince her otherwise. Is J town trying to clean up its image? Any info well appreciated!
if one likes younger women, there is an 18 year old cute massage therapist at venus named brenda. with me, she has provided a total gfe, including dfk, although your ymmv. in addition, she is guite shy of being in the nude.
be forewarned though, she is still lactating as she had just given birth about 4 months ago. of course, for those who like the taste of human milk, she is available, lol.
Massajes Stephanie in Zaragoza.
After doing the GF thing for a while, I'm back! I've read up the last few pages and noticed someone asked if Stephanie was still there. It is:
Went last Tuesday night to Zaragoza to pick up some Tequila and visit my old boss. On the way back, pulled into the Plaza Waterfill where Stephanie is located to see if it was still there. It was, lights were on, so I popped in. 3 girls, two 5's and a 6, all kind of chunky. Not fat, but they aren't thin mints either. Took the 6. Sonia is her name.
Actually put on a pretty good show during the massage. Didn't dim the lights much, and she was all over me (hopped on top) giving a full body massage, employing not just her hands, but boobs, buns, etc. Not shy at all; when I flipped over for the supine portion of the massage, she was on top of me with her shaved fish in my face. I'm not into DTY, but for anyone that is, I'm sure it would have been no problem.
Gave CBJ without me asking or upselling, then I gave her a poke standing in front of the mirror on the wall. Nicely tight, so much so that she was having a hard time taking all of Senor Ocho. In fact, the condom popped, and she had to get another. We then hopped on the massage table for some of the in and out in my favorite position, doggie. Quite a view with the lights mostly undimmed.
All in all, an ok time. Sonia's looks were ok, cost was $40, facility is ok with a shower in the room. But compared to my last visit to an MP, Brenda for $20, it was nothing fantastic. But if you want an enthusiastic provider, Sonia is your girl.
Last night, while walking the streets of downtown CJ in search of a SW, I again witnessed three of Juarez's finest police officers ripping off three of its own citizens with their hands held high againist a wall.
Minutes later I saw a reliable local informant and asked him "why" are the cops so aggressive all of a sudden. He said that the PAN political party. who currently runs Juarez. lost the recent election to the PRI party. and that when the PRI resumes power in October. the police officers currently working will all lose their jobs. hence. they are out to get all the money they can. while they can. You can take this for what it's worth. but I've lived in Mexico long enough to believe it's likely true. Therefore. it will be rough until October. Later one of the SW's told me things will be much better when the PRI takes over. so I say. if this is all true. be more careful than ever and Viva el PRI!
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Adam,
There is a good reason Roxanne is always with the shorter blonde, they're both lesbians. Not that there is anything wrong with that! Generally Roxanne doesn't get such good reviews from her customers, you must be doing something right.
Coyote,
You wrote that the standard fee at SI and PL was $8. I'm not exactly sure what you're talking about but I'm unaware of any $8 fee at either place. SI is owned by an American named Tim and when I talked to him, he's a really straight dude, not the type to fuck anyone over. But he's not there all the time and he told me to let him know if the "native" help is running any games while he's gone. If you've got a question, his cell number is 915-227-4246 and his E mail is timbo628@yahoo.com. Talk to him because I'm sure he'll appreiate it. The last thing he wants is anyone feeling like they got screwed.
Marcus
>The last thing he wants is anyone feeling like they got screwed.
I thought that is what you went there for. ;-)
Reminds me of an old joke. A guy new to town inquired at a bar if there was someplace he could get fucked. One of his new buddies said "sure follow me" and they want to an apartment upstairs. The guy knocked on the door and said to the voice on the other side " I want to get fucked". The voice said, "OK, slide a $20 under the door". So he did, and stood there for about 10 minutes before knocking on the door again. When the voice answered he said "hey, I want to get fucked", to which the voice replied "what, again?".
Police robbery in Mexico is, unfortunately, one of those facts of life you have to deal with if you are going to be making excursions south of the border. Show of hands, is there anyone out there who has NOT been robbed, or at least shaken down for a bribe, by the police??
That said, I thought the Federales had cracked down on that sort of shit. My last visit the place was crawling with military and federal police and my last "encounter" with Juarez' "finest", although it involved having to empty my pockets, having my wallet invasively searched and being questioned at length, the whole nine yards, did not result in robbery or even in having to pay a bribe. And I had quite a bit of money on my at the time to boot. So what's the deal. Did the Federales pull out and now it is a free for all with lost time to make up for?? DE, you are close to the situation there. Is there any truth to the election thing? If so when is the dust expected to settle? I am about due, overdue in fact, for a trip to the dentist (inside joke).
I made the trek to CJ today. $6 for a taxi to the Villa Manport. I stuck my head in at El Encanto. As has been reported here previously, if you like the darker skinned ladies, this is probably the place for you. The quoted price was $30 for an hour. I was hoping to find Lorena there, but she wasn't out front. Deanna was appealing, but for some reason, I passed. Probably a mistake!
I walked across the street to Sirena's, and all of their girls were busy, plus one guy waiting. This was at 2PM on a Thursday afternoon. I decided to get some exercise, and walked down Hmnos Escobar to Brenda's. It was locked up! There was still a sign in the window, but no sign of activity. Anybody know if they're still open?
So I continued to walk for another 10 minutes until I got to Venus. Two ladies available there, one of whom, Yvette, spoke excellent English. The quoted rate was $40 for 45 minutes, either oral or vaginal completion. I had gotten enough exercise of the walking variety, so I reluctantly agreed.
We went into the room and I asked about kissing, and was assured that there would be plenty of that. I paid the $40.
When I had stripped and she returned, after I got her to put down her cell phone, I learned that "kissing" wasn't the DFK variety that I had anticipated. I could kiss her on the neck or cheek, she would respond with a half-hearted kiss. No lip-kissing, no kissing the breasts, and she wasn't too fond of me squeezing them or playing with her nipples.
After appropriate preparations, she asked whether I wanted oral or vaginal release. I asked if oral was "sin condon", and was advised that would be $20 additional. I opted for vaginal and at least made her work up a sweat before I shot.
The Venus is very nice and clean, but Yvette is not the provider that you want to fulfill your fantasies.
A pleasant walk back west on Hmnos Escobar to the park where there's a taxi stand. $5 back to the border.
Let me add a bit to the shake down thing and it's really not specific to CJ but to the country as a whole.
Mexico, as you know was under the rule of the PRI for 70 some odd years. Corruption flourished and still does where they are the ruling party on a local or state level.
The PRI is Mexico's equivalent of Americas Democratic party. Not to say that the Democrats are any more corrupt than the Republicans, so let's not get political,
The PAN (Fox's Party) and the PRD are similar in nature to America's Republican Party. In other words, they're anti corruption, pro business and a somewhat more moralistic party.
Where PAN has been in power, there has been a noticable decrease in crime, open street level corruption, and generally an attempt to clean up the cities and instill civic pride in it's citizens. I've noticed this in Nuevo Laredo where I live and in Juarez where the last few times I've been there, the change has been astonishing. This past year is the first time I haven't been forced to pay bribes.
Unfortunately, Fox and those that rode to victory on his coat tails have not been able to live up to the promises made to the electorate nor to the expectations of the public. Seeing this, the PRI was able to seize power again in Cd. Juarez, Tijuana and a couple of smaller cities in the south. Sadly, it looks as all the advances this country has made under Fox will be lost, especially if the PRI regains the Presidency.
Not surprisingly, the sentiment of visitors to NL, especially those to Boystown are hopeful that the PRI retakes the Palacio in 06.
There have been rumblings of the government at the state and national level outlawing the BT's and Zona's of Mexico. In a way, this might be agood thing. DE will know where I'm coming from here.
But to get back to the subject of this post. "My Freedon"wrote that when the PRI regains the Mayors office that all the cops will be fired. I don"t think this will be the case. Right now, and I read this some time ago in El Diario, the Municipal and State Police are replacing personell in Juarez through retirement, voluntary or otherwise, with newly trained and educated cops.
It\s going to be interesting to see where this goes.
Wow, what a range of thoughtful posts to respond to...
Border Jumpers synopsis of the political parties and change of power in Juarez is right on, and I'm not sure I could have distilled it down that well.
I'm not sure the level of police corruption has much to do with the recent elections, as stated by someone else as a theory. I doubt if it's gone up or down, despite anecdotal reports on this forum, which is just a little sliver of what's happening. It's pretty much hit or miss whether you get singled out by a bad cop, and I can't imagine even a sustained political effort on the part of anyone in power making much of a difference. I do know cop positions in the scheme of things are *way* too low level to get mass dismissed by a change in the Presidencia (mayor's office). All of the tourism officials, financial officers---executive positions and staff--they all go and get replaced, but not the rank and file cops, garbage collectors, and firemen. They have enough sense to stay apolitical and tend to survive.
Back to the cops: The mordita is just in the DNA of the culture, and who knows what the cops wanted from the local guys getting shaken down? Could be money. Could be information. Could be anything. And it's not totally bad, as many times as I've gotten pissed off at the cops there. I'd love to have given that cop in Tyler, Texas a couple of hundred bucks to avoid that second DWI. Like Dougie said, it's part of doing business south of the border, and not just in Mexico or even Latin America but any economically depressed country. And remember, most of you frequent el centro, which is kind of like looking for pussy in South Dallas or some bad section of LA. Tons of corrupt cops there, too. They kind of assume you are guilty of something just for being there and proceed accordingly by their lights. It happens, but a cop is not nearly as likely to look through your wallet the put you hands down on the car in other parts of the city---provided you are not drinking and driving.
Then anything goes. You are a deer in the headlights then. They've got you, and they know it. And there is more than a little resentment about how Mexicanos get treated by cops in the States at work here, also. "Paga" (pay) is their attitude. And you are better off to pay on the street than get booked for something and then have everybody who's anybody at the police station to pay off now that there is a paper trail. If you get sucked into their criminal justice system, you can just flat kiss your ass goodbye.
Justice barely exists here in our own country, so you can't expect it in a place where cops make 50 dollars a week. Leave your concept of rights and justice at home and fold up five 20 dollars bills and put them in your sock and walk on them so you can feel them under the sole of your foot at all times is my advice. Don't leave home without it!
The whole strategy with the cops in Juarez is not to give them an excuse to dig in, because they will, every time, and then you pay your way out. As long as you mix alcohol, el centro, and pussy in together you are going to have a problem now and then with the cops. Just the cost of doing business down there.
The march of the army ants to the sugar jar never changes, just the anecdotes.
With only a few years under my belt with Mexico mongering, I'm interested in hearing more about the political influeneces on our hobby. When it was a passing fancy in TJ I didn't pay much mind to it but after falling in love with CDJ to the point of wanting to move closer I think it would help to know more.
Why would the BTs and Zonas be in jeopardy &, more importantly, why would this be a good thing (from our point of view)?
I've Googled up Fox and all I've found were 2000 recaps and a few later on talking of his hypocrosies. He seemed to have concerns about the youth, the economy and the environment of Mexico and didn't sound to bad.
If he goes does that meant that the street corruption will increase?
Cienega:
Fox is about the best thing that's happened to Mexico in over a 100 years. It"s not a matter of if he goes but when he goes. Mexico has a term limit of 6 years on it's Presidents.
It"hard to gauge the street corruption increase/decrease. Probably though when a PRI gets in power, it will become more open as it has been in the past while that politco concentrates on firming up his base of power, repaying the favors that put him in office and lining his own pockets.
You"re correct in what you found when you GOOGLED him.
For achange, Mexico has a President who actually cares about the people and the county first instead of personal enrichment. Unfortunately, like Clinton, his party is a minority in Congress and quite a fe of his efforts have been stonewalled.
There is a good english site on Fox"s website. Do a Google on PResidency of Mexico or government of MExico and you"ll find it They have an excellent English language discussion board with some very intelligent people discussing the issues.
Clomonger and Sun Devil...thanks for your recent posts on Venus. I am somewhat tempted to check out Brenda, so if you could post any more information about her looks, it would be appreciated. Unfortunately, most of my experiences at Venus have been of the type described by Clomonger...too many of the chicas there are uppitty, bored, and mercenary--not exactly what I'm looking for!
Thanks also to all who have posted about the police activity. This is the primary reason why I restrict my adventures to the MPs, where I feel (relatively) safe from being harassed. I tell you, the day I get shaken down by the CJ police is the day I'll stop engaging in my hobby there!
So, I'm getting ready to head down to CJ to see Sonia at Marliyn's (for the 6th week in a row). She's a really sweet girl; truly the girl-next-door type. Some of you may find this story about an incident I had with her interesting. One day when I was flirting with her, I told her that she was "sweet as chocolate," and then asked her if she liked chocolate. She answered with a very enthusiastic "yes;" so the next time I came to see her, a brought a small (1/2 pound) box of Russell Stover's. Well, when she saw the gift her eyes lit up like a little kid who just got his first bicycle! It blew me away that such a little present delighted her to such an extent...it made me realize, perhaps for the first time, just how poor many of the folks down there really are. Yeah, I've heard the stories of them working in factories for $5 per day; but until I experienced the situation first-hand, it just didn't sink in. What a contrast to the U.S., where I've given $100 and $200 gifts to nieces, nephews, and even past g.f.s without receiving much more than a bland thank you!
Although I brought Sonia that little gift of chocolate purely as gesture of appreciation, man, was I ever rewarded! She gave me the best g.f.e. I'd ever had, and continues to do so. Now, I'm not suggesting that everyone show up at your favorite MP with candy; but this anecdote might give you all some "food for thought," in more ways than one.
Heart warming story about the chocolate TRex. I wonder how much of it was just having someone (a nice guy type) think of her enough to bring a gift that she would like.
I find, or like to think, that the appreciation is more from the thought than it is the value of the gift with these beautiful women. Even with a few in the states that haven't "Americanized" their souls yet.
I think I remember back many many years, or have heard rumors of, American women actually thinking that way once upon a time.
And BorderJumper - thanks much for the follow up on the politics.
For those who have been less enthused about going to Venus, try to get these girls: Gabby, Brenda or Janet. Gabby works mainly during the night shift, while the other two during days. Gabby also works at Corpus, which is $10 cheaper, during the day shift.
Janet used to work at Orientales, but that facility has since closed. She is the girl who wears colored contact lenses. As for Brenda, I have recently given information on her on this board and, for me, she is atttractive enought.
Of course, your experience may differ with these girls as opposed to mine but these have been enthusiastic providers for me.
During my visit to CJ yesterday, I noticed many more police than usual. I even asked the taxi driver about it, and he just smiled and said, "They need money!" That being said, I made certain that my seat belt was fastened and never crossed a street against the light. I think we have to realize that if such infractions were committed by locals, they may be ignored. I suspect that if the same thing is done by someone who is obviously an American, it may be a different story. In general, mongering in CJ is great. An encounter with LE there would certainly change the experience. Be careful!
Clomonger
They don"t care where their money comes from. They"ll sahek down a Mexican citizen as fast as they will an American, although obvioucly they prefer an American. Where they might get $20.00 US from you, they would get maybe $20MN from a Mexican.
Sun Devil, you're right, Gabby is a good choice. Thanks for the info about her at Corpus. I prefer daytimes anyway.
One of the waiters at Alice & Charly told me that Jennie didn't work there anymore. What a bummer! When money was no object, she was one of the all time best. Any monger knowing her status has a duty to report.
Just a quick update on a couple things. First, I want to second Clomonger's observation about the police. I was in CJ yesterday, and there were more bulls on the Av. Juarez than I have ever seen (on foot, on bikes, in cars). I made a bee-line to the bus stop.
BTW, does anyone know (for certain...no speculation please) the law about carrying a knife in CJ? I always take a little clip-on folder with a 1 7/8" blade, mainly for protection. In U.S. laws vary...but it is almost always legal to carry a knife if the blade is less than 2" long. Last year I was told (by a CJ cop) that I couldn't take it on a bus I took from there to C. Chihauhau, and I had to leave it with the authorities...although it was returned to me when I came back (believe it or not!). However, I would hate to get busted by one the s.o.b. cops in el centro for breaking some obscure law.
Okay...second piece of news. I regret to say that Sonia (of Marilyn's) is leaving CJ to go back to Zacatecas. Today (Saturday) is her last day working at the MP, so all of you who want to give a try better get a move on! Guess I'll have to find another favorita in the city. I haven't been to El Encanto in a coon's age, so I was wondering if any of you had specifics (above and beyond what Clomonger recently reported) about that place. I assume that Lorena still there; but is there any good new talent?
TRex
Nevermind the law. I always say, don't take anything that may lead to something. You can argue all day with a Juarez cop and he will insist you are in the wrong. Just leave the knife at home. Don't even take fingernail clippers. This may sound silly but prevention and avoidance is worth much more than even a 1 minute dispute as it could lead in any direction.
Just take the cash you need using what ever method of concealment you choose and condoms. I express caution when it comes to cameras, I hear some places have been cracking down, and I maybe to blame for that. Leave the ATM and credit cards at home. Underwear is optional. (I just love to wear cargo shorts without drawers on, chicas love it)
The Filthy One
Mugroso...yeah, what you say about the knife makes perfect sense. I'm just used to having something with me for protection at all times when I go out in the U.S. (I'm really into the self defense thing). But you're absolutely right: avoidance of putting yourself in compromising situations is always the primary and most effective means of keeping yourself safe.
And I'm already on the same page as you on the other stuff. I have one of those hide-a-pockets that straps onto my belt and I can stuff into my pants. In it I always carry my passport (just in case I lose my driver's license, or for some other emergency), $40 to $60 of extra cash (to bribe police if I have to), condoms, and a spare key to my car (so I can drive back home if I get rolled and lose my regular set of keys). My wallet contains only my driver's license and the amount of cash I think I'll spend on my outing.
Finally, I have learned over the years to not wear underwear when going to strip clubs. (As Jimmy Kimmel said on The Man Show, "you wouldn't wear a catcher's mit to a circle jerk, would you?"). But I haven't thought about that option when hobbying (guess it could be fun, as long as my prick doesn't slip out through my shorts, lol).
Take the advise given. Take nothing into Juarez, or any part of Mexico for that matter, that can be construed as, or resembles a weapon. I is just not worth hassle if you get shaken down.
I once got into a hassle over a screwdriver I had in my car. Cop picked it up and made stabbing like motions, showing me it could be used to stab with, (duh). I had other tools, and told him I need them in case or car trouble, not to use as weapons, so he, reluctantly, let me slide.
TRex
"as long as my prick doesn't slip out through my shorts, lol."
You shouldn't wear shorts as short as the womens beach volleyball team.
The Filthy (hilarious) One
But seriously folks
I'd like some help from you guys. I need a critique on my website. I am about to make changes (not nessecarily improvements) to the site. Then I realized I haven't really asked for input from anyone, here or anywhere else on my site. I would really like some comments or suggestions if you don't mind. And if Mr. Jackson doesn't mind, www.**************.com is the site. I know I need more photos of chicas but I just haven't been able to get away lately.
Thanks guys
MUG
Sites looking good Mugroso although you really need to put those META tags I sent you into the header so you can get listed on the search engines, especially Google. Also, on your front page, you need to make liberal use of the keywords I gave you and any more you think of in the structure of your sentences. Search engines now, don"t pay as much attention to the Keyword META as they used to since a lot of people loaded a page with bullshit words, and I mean load the thing with the letters in the same color as the background thereby making them invisible to the viewer but cheating the search spiders. Good first effort though and I appreciate the hits it"s sending to my site. Hope it"s mutual.
Knives, gentlemen, are a definate NO-NO in Mexico. Even a pen knife. This will give a cop at least, a reason to shake you down for a bribe, and at most, a ride in the paddy wagon. It ain"t worth the hassle.
Self defense is an illusion. You"re better off to give them what they want and they"ll leave you alone. Should you try to defend yourself andgain the upper hand over your opponent, when the cops come, who do you think is goin to the can? Something to think about.
Cameras guys. When I was there a couple of weeks ago, No camera allowed signs were up all over the place. Strangely enough, they used the same design and formatting. They looked like they came out of the sam computer. Ricardo of Casa Colorado to be specific. Where I saw them, his place and Genesis MP is where he has his fingers in the pie. Didn"see them anyplace else.
Food for thought!
As TRex reports, Sonia will no longer be at Marilyn after today. I've also had some good times with her, and she told me when I asked her if she would be working tomorrow. Thought about having a last time, but I was filthy from working on my new apartment and just too worn out to get in the mood. I asked her if she had another job, and she said no, she was leaving and would not have to work. "Congratulations and happy journey, friend," I told her, extending my hand. We had talked about her not having to work in the MPs much longer, and she nodded and smiled and shook my hand with that big appreciative smile she has. I wish her the best of luck. She is a really sweet kid who deserves the best.
But then there is always Cassandra and Betty. Cassandra asked me for a ride to S-Mart where she catches a bus home, and I was glad to accomodate. She is an extremely pretty girl with long black hair, big cheeks, and beautiful eyes and smile. Funny how I can think of them now as a lover when in the mood and a friend the next second now. When she asked me for the ride I was headed home and looked at it as a favor to a friend when you are really not in the mood but, of course, you do it anyway. She asked if I preferred Betty. I told her, no, I preferred her, which is the truth. She is trying very hard to learn English. I like her a lot as a person. Her car needs a battery and some tires to get on the road again.
There have not been more cops in the rest of the city that I can tell. Must be something going on just in el centro.
I agree with BorderJumper. All you can do is roll over and play dead when you get in a tight spot in Mexico. No one seems to want to kill you, just take your money, and, once again, I still think this is mostly a problem in el centro.
Go to Yahoo and enter keywords "Juarez Massage Parlor" and see what pops up.
Right on top, eh DE! Nice site also.
I gotta agree it"s Centro. When I was down there we took a guy back up into the foothills way out west of 16 de Septembre into the barrio and had absolutely no poblems or fear.
Thanks guys for all the pointers.
BJ, I used a search engine submittal feature provided by my hoster. I entered every dirty word I could think of. I also did the same for my second site, ftblissforum, but minus the dirty words of course. What were you doing in that part of Juarez BJ? Hope you weren't gonna roll the guy.
To be honest, I was gonna roll this drunkend Argentinian once. He had a big wad of American dollars but I just don't have what it takes. So instead I just convinced him to let me show him the zona and I mooched off of him. Hey, at least I got laid. (with a chica)
DE I typed in your suggested search words in yahoo. I found Sirenas on the first 2 lines. Good job at marketing (who ever that is). I then typed in ladies of Juarez and I showed up on line 11. Sure its not #1 but I'm kinda thrilled since I never submitted with yahoo. Sirenas seems to be much improved and the chicas with the fuzzy faces still seem hot.
I know the site needs more pics, thats for sure. I really need to do more foot work. But the budget has been kinds tight lately and with the tightening up on cameras in the clubs I shouldn't be as open about taking pics with the chicas. One alternative is it offer the chica a small amount of cash and just go to the room for a photo shoot. And if the chicas are concerned about being seen, I just may start carrying a Zorro type mask or something like that. DragonCelt does that for his Noglaes site and I'm sure it will go over well in Juarez.
When it comes to potential confrontations, I handle them like I do the beggars. Just ignore them. But walk away carefully. The only situation I am still not skilled at is handling a rip off mesero. I have scared many a mesero but one day I'm sure someone won't be scared.
bbond...almost busted for possession of a screwdriver! Now that is really hardcore! Sounds like I've been living on borrowed time, taking a knife over there. I'm with you guys about not wanting to get into any altercations in Mexico (hey, I'm a lover, not a fighter); but I'm also hesitant about handing over my wallet to anyone who asks for it. I suppose each situation should be individually evaluated for the best course of action--another reason not to get plastered in CJ.
Mugroso...good comeback about the volleyball shorts. Nice to see there are a few folks here with a sense of humor.
Also, one suggestion about your web site: you may want to think about including a paragraph or two about how Juarez--on the whole--can be an interesting, fun, and friendly place (and I'm talking above and beyond the MPs and bars-in-which-prostitution-is-solicited). The typical American's perception of Mexico in general, and border towns like CJ in particular, are quite tainted. Although there are undoubtedly some scary dudes roaming around, the vast majority of the residents in the city are friendly and hardworking. A statement such as this might reassure some of the gringo population contemplating a Juarez adventure. From my personal experience, I can tell you that Juarez scared the bejeezes out me the first couple of times I traveled there. And I'm a well-seasoned traveler, who has ventured into the third-world slums of Palermo, Tunis, and Istanbul! Your words of caution are certainly appropriate in order to give the potential consumer full disclosure; but I think you may need to temper that by pointing out some of the positive factors of CJ (of which there are many). Just my two cents.
Magruso, you are also in the top 20 in Google under those keywords. Tighten it up just a bit, and you will pop to #1.
I've got the first 4 pages of so covered on google with the site of mine you have linked Mugroso.
Maybe it's feeding back to you!
Thanks for the encouragement support and advise.
BJ, your banner is down for the moment as I am revamping the site. I had a catastrophy last night while doing so but your logo will be back up very soon. The Ft. Bliss forum is also tweetered out and I am working with my hosting to get it back up. Good thing this happened at an early age with the site. I could have really lost a lot of return visitors.
DE, I wish we could do a banner exchange or at least put your banner on my site but I know you are trying to keep it clean on your end. Being in the top 20 is really a thrill for me. I feel like such a web guru. (insert funny face here)
Mug
Try Kazix.com if you're not tied into a long term deal Mugroso. I've had excellent relations with them and over 99.9% uptime.
By the way. I'll be over in El Paso tonight and Saturday noght if anyone wants to hook up for a drink or whatever. PM me with a cell number and we'll see what we can set up. Saturday is better for me as it will be late tonight when I arrive
i'm glad to read the advice about "self-defense". i think i can add a couple of " experiences" to the mix.
i struck up a conversation with a guy over a drink or three at the kentucky bar not so long ago. he told me that some few weeks before he had left one bar and was walking up the street towards casa colorado. this was before the sleepy iguana was there. right at that corner, there were 3 or 4 punks arguing with one of the loud-mouth streetwalkers. he figured it looked like the usual animated latina-latino type of discourse and he would just mind his own business and walk on by. one of the punks started really glaring at him, so he said "hola". the guy said "hola", but came right up on him and was following him. this guy could "feel" him over his shoulder, but just kept on walking. this was in daylight by the way. so he gets within 5 feet of the door to cc and the punk hits him beside the head with something and takes off! that would be the one night when there was no door man. he didn't chase him or anything. he told me he felt like a real wuss because the kid was just a punk. i told him at the time that i thought he did the right thing. you never know if somebody is high on crack or not! if i see him again, i can tell him that i ran into some more experienced juarez "visitors" who felt like he did the right thing.
this next one happened to me. i got stopped by two cops one night. i had a leatherman micro on my key ring. just like reported here, they claimed it was a weapon. they were quite willing to haul me off in their paddy wagon, but i managed to convince them it was better to let me pay the $50 "fine" right there and save all the paperwork. whew! i didn't know who else might be in that damn cage on that truck. and, of course, they "confirep001ed" my little leatherman.
The same time I got hassled over a screwdriver, my friend got his key chain nail clippers scrutenized, they were the kind without a knife blade, thank goodness, I could tell the cops were a bit dis-appointed of that fact.
After reading some of the most recent postings, is Juarez going a bit nuts? Police stopping tourists, guys getting jacked up in daylight...that's not the town I think I know, or maybe this really is it, and I've been living a charmed life while visiting there.
Just curious - of those who get stopped by Juarez cops - what are your appearances? Are you clean cut like out of the business world? Or are you more from the hippy vintage?
Do the cops do their own "racial profiling" - stopping certain individuals while passing by others? What is it that pushes their hot button? They have got to go through some type of mental selection when they stop someone. What is it?
There are some rough looking characters in this world - and no offense in this statement for those of you who fit this mold. But I do believe many interrogations are motivated by certain traits. And if you fit the profile the probability of your getting stopped has increased 100 fold.
What think ye?
>The truckers money is as green as yours and spends just the same. What's your problem with this group?
Sorry for the late reply, haven't checked this board lately. BJ, no problem with truckers or with this group. My problem is with boorish assholes who think the drunker and louder they get and the more money they wave around the more people will respect them and look up to them. Unfortunately, in CJ, that particular group seems to be comprised mostly if not entirely of truckers, specifically truckers hauled across the border to El Centro by folks organizing "tours".
I have expressed the opinion that El Centro was a good place for them and also a desire to see the MPs kept relatively free of drunken, bellowing *******es, of WHATEVER occupation, who do nothing for the hobby except drive up prices and drive down the respect given to ALL gringos, not just those of their ilk. If they are all in one place, it makes them easier to avoid.
Just when I was wondering what happened to RearWindow, there he is.
As far as troubles in Juarez, I really have had very little. I have been noticing more campers and bicycle cops around. I have only been patted down on the street twice in the last 6 months, with no problems. I wish I could give solid advise or whatever trick that has helped me avoid police problems but I can't.
When it comes to punks on the street, I just ignore them. Whatever I see ain't my business. No "holas", no "fuck yous", nothing.
Concerning truckers, they are a cool and wild bunch. It is too bad they are taken advantage of by the van services and the clubs. The only problem I guess is they drive up the price of pussy with their generosity. Maybe the long hours on the road makes them horny. I know I was the 6 months I was in Saudi Arabia trucking for the U.S. Army.
The Filthy One
My travels in J-Town tonight trying to get my freak on. . .
First went to SI at 6 PM. Shit, no girls there at all!
Then went to Casa next door. Manager was some tall aggressive rude lady who kept rushing me, so I left.
Some guy on the street showed me to Cleopatria's a couple of blocks away (I guess that's the name, no sign on the door).
Had about five ladies there--all seemed pretty good. Choose a native looking petite girl named Claudia. I don't know if it's the same Claudia you guys talk about at SI.
She was my type & was a GFE, so afterwards my head was spinning so bad (or good) I tipped her all my cash in my pocket. Didn't even have bus fare home!
But the driver took pity on me, and I made it back.
My first time in a MP. Actually like it better than the bars. First off, you can actually see the girls--it's not all fucking dark. Plus, you get to have the power rush of having them all line of for ya :-)
And the hard tables are actually better for driving, IMO.
I plan on returning to see my baby Claudia.
Hey guys...don't forget that knives to Mexicans are like guns to us here on the other side. What we might view as a small utility blade is a potential weapon over there. It's like telling a cop over here that your derringer is just for target practice...yeah right! lol
As far as getting stopped by police, I'm sure most of you guys know to be nice. If you can speak Spanish it helps a lot, but humility goes a long way. I respect those guys and try to work with them if they stop me. They don't earn much and an honest cop in a corrupt land should be treasured. If you are legal like you should be, don't sweat it. Also, don't carry a back pack in the zona if you can help it. I've been stopped everytime I have one. Guess I look like a mule or something.
About getting mugged or robbed, I've managed to spend a gazillion nights in J-town without much trouble. Just walk with conviction and act like you know where you are going, even if you don't. Make the block if you have to, but do not hesitate in your gait if the surroundings look bad. It becomes second nature after a while. And if you do get in trouble, don't stick around for the police to show up.
Good luck and happy mongering.....BR
Thanks for everyone for some great information. Went to Marlyins (sp) 2900 Del Ejido. It was great! About 5 ladies from 6-8. Went with a tall skinny one. 300 pesos for a good massage, kissing, a little head including working my balls over pretty good, then she climbs on board with some great action. Not complete GF experience but close, well actually I have had GF that were no were near as good. Man at door speaks excellent english. I would concur, this is the place to go. My expereince, looks 8, skill 8. Price 300 pesos plus tip.
All,
There used to be a link to a map of J-town that showed the MP's and the other places. I looked at ladies of juarez, and now its a pay site. Does anyone have a map that they can post? The only MP I have been to is Serena and I have seen the one down the street from it, and want to branch out. Thanks for the help. Oh I did RTFF already.
Bolongo,
Search for Cienega32 posts. I believe he has a link to a map highlighting those places. I didn't download it , so I can't send it. The Juarez Tour Guide has a great large map showing most of all the streets, so if you know where an MP is street-name wise, you can find the nearest cross street and avoid the taxi fine.
Good Luck.
RW
Coyote79
I checked out the Diario classifieds today and saw an ad for Cleopatras. Pretty much it said to come visit their new girl Claudia. I like them short little dark ones too. There used to be one at Queens about 5-6 years ago. What a bundle of firecrackers. There is more to the story too long to tell.
Mug
Master Diver,
Mi favorita en Mexico came from Sergios harem there at Marylin. I am a total sucker for tall, slender Mexicanas ..."300 for that girl?!" Dale!
On August 17, 2004, while on a trip to California, I made an overnight stop in El Paso, Texas and crossed the border into Juarez via the Santa Fe Street Bridge. There is overnight parking at the border on Mesa Street for six dollars and the (walking) toll across the bridge is 35 cents (USD). I had been driving long hours and decided to chow down, then go to “Massage Encanto” near the corner of Hermanos Escobar and Calle Panama. You can take a cab (60 pesos) or bus (5 pesos) here easily. Previous posts have explicit instructions on how to get to the massage parlors in Juarez.
After checking in and Encanto and not finding either Lorena or Jessica, I turned my sights toward “Massage Serena” across the street. There I found Ozueki, a pretty girl of Japanese and Mexican descent. She is very kind, soft spoken, and even knows a little English. She is about 5 feet 6 inches tall, 38 inch (or so) chest, and a very nice body to go with it all. She has 3 children and looks especially good in high heels and a short skirt!
The service was very good and relaxing with a good massage and sex before the Jacuzzi tub and bath. She seemed to enjoy making me comfortable and ensured I was well satisfied. The full service fee (massage, sex, bath, and sex) was 550 pesos (with a 50 peso tip) for a little over 1 hour of time. She enjoyed the massage I gave her and she didn’t have any problem with another round after the bath. She liked oral very much and just about tore my ears off as she came. She did not want to do anal and would only suck Mr. Happy with a condom (she did have a nice mouth though). Ozueki is a very likable woman and I would definitely use her services again.
ML
He said that he paid 300 pesos, which is $30, more or less.
I don't know what the exact exchange rate is right now since I haven't been to Juarez in about a month.
If you like tall, slender Mexican, there is a girl named Melissa working at Marisol who fits that description. The only bad thing about her is that she has a metal crown on one of her teeth.
SunDevil
I was down tonight and I exhanged some pesos for 11.30 to the dollar. At 300 pesos thats 26.50 USD. Hell, that savings is equal to a beer dude.
Not much to say for a Monday night. Only the desperate ones work on Mondays. The bars were pretty much dead.
I stopped by the Sleepy Iguana and met a couple of you guys. Names and nicks withheld to protect the innocent.
Stopped by Queens, no Marilu but there was this huge woman named Perla. Her piercing eyes scared me so I left. I hate being treated like a piece of meat.
The Filthy One
Mugroso,
Where can I find the Diario classifieds?
Guys,
Please refer me to a WSG dictionary so I will know what the heck you are talking about with these abbreviations. I figured out a few of them, but I am feeling dumb and vulnerable. I need a hug here.
Thanks,
SPYMASTER
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Hey Mugroso, Marilu was at Queens on Saturday and she was even more energetic than usual (if you can believe that). I really went hoping to see Diana2 at Las Vegas, but she hasn't been around for a couple of weeks. Isn't life grand when you can go see Marilu if the girl you went to see isn't around?
Diana1 promised to go to the room with me this week (last week was rag time) but she was already with someone else. I don't need to become a member of your site, but I'll give you a couple of bucks for that picture of Diana2 laying on the floor.
Clydesdale
Glad to hear MariLu hasn't become a dead lay. I'd love to get her and Diana #2 in the room together. I wonder if Diana #2 is vacationing or is retired. As for Diana #1, she is always on the rag. She is proving to be one tough nut to crack. Speaking of which I'd love to crack a nut all over them chi chis.
Of course you don't have a need for my site, you got the grand tour for the mongerpalozza. Even that spooky place in the market, Pachangas. Dude, I really was scared. Thats the point of my tours is to get guys familiar with the place so they can get to know Juarez and pick their own favorite bars.
I was in Juarez this afternoon on some other unrelated buisness. Afterwards I stopped by Cleopatras and poked my head in. A great improvement from the last time I stuck my head in. All the girls were acceptable. Maybe I am just horny right now but if I had the intention of getting a massage, it would have taken me half an hour to choose which one. Go check it out next time you are in Juarz.
The Filthy One
Thanks for the reply Peter Girth. I've been in the business for close to 30 years. A lotta good my college diploma did me.
I agree though that you seem to get the worst of the worst down there. And what is strange, in the beginning they are some of the nicest guys you'd ever want to meet, until the booze starts talking.
Being a trucker must be one of the most lonesome jobs there is. You can't go party on a consistent basis because you have to be sober to drive one of those rigs.
Moreover, there is no place to work out and exercise in order to let out steam and stress. Leading to more increase in stress is the fact that a trucker is constantly away from friends and love ones.
In addition, to me at least, driving is a boring endeavor, especially in the middle part of the US, where there is a lack of cities to take the boredom away and where the terrain is pretty much the same for countless amount of miles.
No wonder these guys drink so much alcohol when they have the chance. With that in mind, I just pretty much leave them alone and let them have their fun.
At one time it might have been Sundevil. For me, it's been for the most part, a 30 year party.
You don't have to drink to have fun. The first 15 years or so I was in the business, it was non stop pussy. They were out there with their thumbs out and willing to do anything for a ride. A ride them we did. It's changed a bit as the world has over the past ten years though.
You can't excuse rude and rowdy behavior on the loneliness of the job. It's bad upbringing or in the case of some of them, bad inbreeding.
But as for as it being a lonely job, for some, maybe. In my case, I have satelite television and radio in my truck. Wi-Fi access on my laptop practically anywhere I am. A seat that makes my ass laugh atitself everytime I step down from the cab. Plus a living area the size of a small bathroom. Not to mention on board sanitary facilities and such. Were I inclined, which I'm not but many guys are, I could very comfortably live in this thing but I prefer my home time with the wife and kids too much.
30 years later I've never once regretted my decision to put my educational training aside and enter this field.
quote from mugroso "stopped by queens, no marilu but there was this huge woman named perla. her piercing eyes scared me so i left. i hate being treated like a piece of meat."
i am speechless, as i can't think of a proper response for that. lol! you need to gather these thoughts into a book like norman mailer's "advertisements for myself". or woody allens "without feathers". you could be the next beat author of the new millenium. fuuuunnny stuff. dude.
I made the Marylin's trek today. Caught a glimpse of Carina, who really looked hot, but she wasn't ready for another client. Instead, I spent a delightful hour with Alondra, who was a total GFE. She's quite tall, a real sweetie. I try to make my desires known in advance (with limited Spanish) at the time of payment, which seems to work much better than letting the session go wherever the girl wants to take it.
If anybody has had a session from Carina, I'd be interested in your impressions.
Sun Devil
Trucking isn't quite as bad as you might think. I've done it off and on for the last 6 years. For one thing, we don't drive near as much as most people might think. About 9 hours a day. I've managed to find time to party in just about every major city in the US and Canada. Not counting MX....haha. (Fargo ND Rocks!..seriously)
Yes, it can be boring if you are the type that needs a lot of external influences. I prefer to feed my mind with motivational tapes and thoughts of my own. I used to play the "girl in every port" game, but that got old. I have a computer and get internet almost everywhere. (I'm sending this from my truck in Detroit). Threw the TV out years ago..huge waste of time. I carry free weights in the truck and workout daily. I also have a BBA in management and trade the NQ futures market intra-day. And to those guys that look down on truckers and make fun of them, I'll guarantee you I made more than you today, got better laid, and had much more fun.
Peace....BR.
Well said Border Rat
Here is my experience in trucking. After I did 3 years of active military working in intelligence I joined the reserves as an 88m, Heavy Equipment Operator. Everything was fine. Weekends and summer camps of drinking beer and smoking pot were interupted by good ol' Saddam Hussein himself. I wound up spending 6 months in Saudi Arabia.
A detachment of my unit was sent to the capitol for our first missions hauling artillery rounds from Rhiyad to a location east of Hafer-al-Baten. 36 hours round trip. I had a co-driver so we switched every few hours. I would sleep with my helmet between my legs so my balls wouldn't get shot off. After each mission we got 24 or so hours off.
After that we were send back to the coast on the gulf and later deployed to "log base Bastone". I didn't like that name for a base. From there we did what my unit was intended to do, haul fuel.
The worst times there were when we didn't have any missions. Just sitting around the tent all day playing spades, Monopoly and Risk. We loved being on the road. I saw lots of interesting things and people. After the war was over we hauled fuel into Kuwait City a few times. That was fun.
A buddy told me once that the war was shameful. I asked him why. He replied, "no booze, no pussy, what a shame".
Speaking of pussy, whos gotten laid recently?
The Filthy (symdromatic) One
Clomonger - glad you asked about Carina. I just saw her the first time this evening and was dying tell someone about it. She starts of with an excellent no rush massage, then a lot of body biting and nibbling. Next was a BBBJ that was truly impressive. She couldn't take it all, but did better than any other chica in Juarez. She also did a little ball munching, which was a little rough and made me nervous. Some energetic ride em' cowboy was the capstone. Thumbs up for Carina! She does have what looks like some fairly recent baby damage to her stomach. Hopefully that will tighten up with time, as it's her only drawback.
So, if you know Alondra's schedule, spill the beans. I haven't seen her there yet, but yours is the second post about the tall girl at Marylin, and I got a thing for tall chicks.
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Clyde: Thanks for the report. I don't know Alondra's schedule, but she was there at about 1PM on Wednesday. She also had a little baby damage, but I can ignore that. I'd suggest that you telephone Marilyn's to see when she's around. Although I've never tried that, I think you would dial 011 (Intl access), 52 (Mexico) 656 (CJ City Code) and then 613-1369 (Marylin's). Good luck!
I'm not sure what your rates are on long distance but to call Mexico cheap use and internet calling card service. I have been using Net2phone but I will try Bigzoo.com as they have cheaper rates. Net2phone has been charging me 12 cents a minute if I use a local access number. There are no local access numbers in El Paso but if I get free long distance with Sprint so I call the Dallas local access, then Mexico. With Bigzoo I can do the same but at 7.5 cents a minute.
I hope someone finds this worth while.
The Filthy(thrifty) One
I just thought I would mention that the Sleepy Iguana is running ads in the El Paso Times sports page. The coupons are good for 2 free beers and a tequila shot through 9/15. I just might take them up on it as I enjoy the atmosphere and layout there. I went a couple of weeks ago for the first time and had an interesting conversation with the owner and he shared some of his insight on running a business in Mexico. He basically said that he was willing to make a 10% profit off of someone in the hopes of generating return business. Whereas the mentality of alot of bar owners in the area tends to be to gouge the customer as much as they can without concern for repeat business. While this is just a generelization there are enough people that follow this business model in the centro that it is breath of fresh air to have the sleepy iguana as an option. The only drawback the place has a relatively small number of girls working there. I remember one tactic that use to bring the girls in when it was the Indio Posado was that they would hire some knockouts as waitresses or some other entry level position and inevitably the cutest most innocent ones would come around and eventually become the most dirty corrupted and irrestible ones all on their own accord.
Hi every one,
I just want to thank everyone for posting good info on this site. I mongered in TJ for the past 2 years and now I’m living in New Mexico so I wanted to add that I went down to El Paso on Labor day and decided to check out Marilyn's.
Wow! $30 for 1 whole hours of great service! That’s a great deal. Back in TJ $30 would get you about 15 minutes with a street walker. No massage and no shower before and after the session is over just a simple quickie, I used the address posted on an earlier post and went up to a cab driver to see if he could take me there. It cost about 7 dollars for the cab ride. Once I arrived inside there was only two girls working. One girl was with a customer and the available girl “Betty" was my only choice. Betty was about 30 years old. Her face was not the best but she had a very nice body. She isn’t the 18 looking street walkers I remember so well from TJ but since Betty was the only choice at the time she would do.
Wow! I think the girls at Marilyn’s must be required to take a course on pleasing a customer. Betty was great! Total GFE lots of kissing and hugging. Since the rooms are a bit dark and Betty’s face is about a 5 out of 10 it helped with the atmosphere. Her body was about 7 out of 10. I extended my visit there an extra hour and wished I could of stayed longer! Thanks guys for posting this wonderful place. I look forward to visiting with Carina and if not I will definitely visit with Betty again.
One questions for the regulars at Marilyn’s what is a good tip after one hour of great service? I gave Betty $15 for the two hour session and she looked at me and said that was too much. Of course I felt it wasn’t but I don’t want to over tip so please let me know. Also Betty wanted to set up a TLN ( todo la noche), I have no idea what would be a fair price in Ciudad Juarez? I guess somewhere between $50 and 100 dollars?
Thanks again!
First of all I wont to say thanks for the Intel on this MP you all have provided, I decided to do my own SPO on a couple of MPs in the area.
Sirena: Been here twice for the past month, it’s a very nice clean place. 1st time I walked in four lovely ladies stood up for my inspection. Each one sounded off their names one by one; Raqael caught my attention, remembering her the name off their Website. I showed her the print out from their Website and she asked me if, I would like soda or water. I choose the water bottle, had a fabulous time with her, she gave me a great massage, and paid attention to detail. Not bad you get a great massage, special attention, FS for .40 1hr no rush.
2nd time, four lovely Chica’s again, Raqael was one of them, but this time I chose Okyaki, she part Asian, I later found out, nice C racks. This time around I selected one of the rooms that had a Jacuzzi, which cost me an extra .2 but worth the time for two. She gave an good massage after finding my rubber duck splashing in the jacuzzi, I gave her few pointers on what I learned from visiting a few AMP, that should elevate her skills in giving massages. Over all I had a good time, starting to like this place…I just might stop by this weekend and sample the next one in line.
MR. Smooth TX
First of all I wont to say thanks for the Intel on this MP you all have provided, I decided to do my own SPO on a couple of MPs in the area.
Sirena: Been here twice for the past month, it’s a very nice clean place. 1st time I walked in four lovely ladies stood up for my inspection. Each one sounded off their names one by one; Raqael caught my attention, remembering her the name off their Website. I showed her the print out from their Website and she asked me if, I would like soda or water. I choose the water bottle, had a fabulous time with her, she gave me a great massage, and paid attention to detail. Not bad you get a great massage, special attention, FS for .40 1hr no rush.
2nd time, four lovely Chica’s again, Raqael was one of them, but this time I chose Okyaki, she part Asian, I later found out, nice C racks. This time around I selected one of the rooms that had a Jacuzzi, which cost me an extra .2 but worth the time for two. She gave an good massage after finding my rubber duck splashing in the jacuzzi, I gave her few pointers on what I learned from visiting a few AMP, that should elevate her skills in giving massages. Over all I had a good time, starting to like this place…I just might stop by this weekend and sample the next one in line.
MR. Smooth TX
I would imagine that the town will be a bit crazy this weekend, no? With all the extra policia activities as of late, would it be wise to not partake in the festivities this weekend and perhaps wait a week to drive the 750 miles?
Went to Michelle's last Thursday. My what a great service. $30 for a good massage and totla GFE from girl named Karina, they call her Kara. She was about a 7, but the personality and treatment made her a knockout. Will definetly go visit again in the near future. There is also a SW named Maria by Queens in the Centro, what a freak. $40 and she invited a friend for some three way fun. Maria's sexy school teacher glasses and the friends enormous rack made for a good time.
Kimbrough,
You want to set up a over nighter with a woman whose face is a 5 out of 10? Huh?
But thanks for the report.
Any young hotties at Marilyn’s?
Quote from Kimbrough"Wow! I think the girls at Marilyn’s must be required to take a course on pleasing a customer"
Kimbrough,
Welcome to Juarez! Sergio (Marilyns) gets girls that are just amazing. The "love of my life" is from his stable, who has moved on. but I still see her when I can. I try to see her every day I am in Juarez, and I usually see her one hour before I have to be at the airport, and I get to the airport quite relaxed.
Coyote79,
Hahaha, yea maybe it sounds silly but Betty was a great time total GFE. Anyway when you are face to face with someone you really are looking at their eyes not there whole face. And just by looking at her eyes I could tell she was a good woman. Most importantly she was horny and ready to have a good time!
One question for the gang. Is there any action at the bars just after you cross into Juarez during the day? I went inside a couple of places and the bars where dead of action. Back in TJ you could fine some action in any number of bars. If you wanted to dance you could find a couple of places to go. Also is there any streetwalkers out at about noon? I'm just wondering, thanks guys. For now I'll be going back to Marlyn's A.S.A.P.!
Hey all,
Recently I went to Vegas. I just had a sprite and left. this ugly girl insisted on giving me a lap dance but she didn't smell good either, so I left. Walked to the Sleepy Iguana and there was one pretty girl with a nice body, but she was talking to someone. This short, yet wide girl walked up to me and sat down so I told her I was watching the boxing matched up the street and just got thirsty. So I finished another bottle of sprite (for 2 bucks) and left. I went to the bar across from Vegas ( called ladies bar or something like that) The girls actually looked pretty good. They charge 7 bucks for a drink for the ladies and 3 bucks for a can of what 7 Up. The kicker was for FS it was $130 for an hour. Told the guy that he must be crazy and walked out.
Kimbrough
The only action in the day is at the *****houses and an MP called Cleopatras in Ignacio Mejia, very close to the bridge. The *****houses have very poor quality in the daytime but the las time I went to Cleopatras they were wall to wall cuties.
The Filthy One
Kimbrough:
Betty at Marilyn's does indeed provide a nice GFE, although I felt just a bit rushed when I was with her. We didn't have any discussions about a potential TLN, so maybe she just didn't like me. But she seems very enthusiastic about her work.
If it's a GFE that knocks my socks off, I'll tip $10.
Want to save a few bucks? Follow this link that Dreaming Eagle has provided, and the base rate for your hour of fun will be $25 instead of $30:
http://www.juarez-mexico.com/Coupons/MarilynCoupon.JPG
They used to accept those coupons at Marylin's but not anymore. Same thing with regards to Sirena's coupon. Both of them are obsolete.
Sun Devil:
They accepted a coupon from me at Marylin's yesterday! Maybe it's a YMMV thing.
Only Sirena has cancelled the coupon offer.
Marilyn still honors them.
I know. I arranged and published them and am in touch with both owners on an ongoing basis.
I just left Sergio of Masaje Marilyn and saw a couple of coupons sitting around the office. You can get one at http://www.juarez-mexico.com/Coupons/MarilynCoupon.JPG.
Sirena's is also offering a free ride from Club Planeta near the Sante Fe Bridge, and back, which is worth a bit more than a $5 off coupon: http://www.sirena-massageparlor.com. I want to hear from anyone who has tried to take them up on this offer to make sure it's real, which I have no reason to believe is not. I'd just like some verification and perhaps some testimonials for the web site.
Thanks fellows for clarifying that. I will talk to Sergio as to the reason why the girls taking care of me indicated that they do not accept the coupons that I had.
I am a frequent customer of Marylins, and even if I did use the coupon I would probably still spend the savings on a tip.
I don't know who's cut the coupon comes out of, the house or the girl. But, $30 is still very reasonable for an hour with one of these girls.
I suspect Sergio hasn't told all of the new girls about the coupons. I'll mention this to him tomorrow.
Hello all,
I guess I was the first to try Venus II near El Encanto. There was a man passing out flyers for Venus and Venus II. I decided to try Venus II and it was well worth it. There were only three girls thre and I picked Yazmin. A local 21 yr old girl. Wow amazing. I will have to go to El Elncanto next or maybe a second visit to Venus II. I want to try and hook up with Yazmin for an all nighter.
Be safe,
JD
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Find out, if you can, who's cut the discount comes out of, the house, the girl, or both.
Well guys, all good things must come to an end; and unfortunately, I'm having to move out of state and far away in about a week. I'll sure miss CJ and all the lovely chicas that are so readily available, and, of course, I'll also miss being part of this forum. But such is life. Anyway, I plan on making this week count...I'm going to try to check out the MPs at least 2 or 3 times.
So, any new reports on Marilyn's, Venus, Roma, or any other of the MPs? I'd really like to get some more information on Venus II...anyone have anything to add to Juarez Defender's report? Are the facilities as nice as the original Venus? Is up-selling as prevelant? And could someone provide some specifics as to its location? I haven't been to Marilyn's since Sonia left some 3 weeks ago, mainly because I didn't think there was anyone left that would interest me. Betty looks ok...but I generally like girls who are younger. Casandra got a pretty bad review from someone a couple months ago, so I'm hesitant to try her (even if she is still around). But I'm more comfortable in Marilyn's than any other MP, so I may have to go for one of the two, unless there are any other suggestions.
Oh, Kimbrough...regarding tipping: I would say the $5 is the standard rate. However, I personally give $10 to any girl who shows some enthusiasm, and $20 for a GFE (but please note: I've only found one chica who gave me the TRUE GFE in my year and a-half of practicing my hobby in CJ). Now before you all start giving me grief about jacking up the rates, please consider what someone posted here a while back about these girls needing the money money more I do. I can't speak for the girls who work in the bars-in-which-postitution-is-solicited, but the girls in the MPs--at least the majority of the ones I have been with--are just trying to make a decent life for themselves and their children in a place that offers limited opportunities. So what's a few extra buck when the price for pussy is so ridiculously cheap in the first place?
And Kimbrough, I love your story about Betty telling you that you tipped too much! A girl like that deserves whatever you can give her! What refreshing change from the up-selling putas at myriad other establishments!
Ok, I was just told by a friend who doesn't post on the board that Venus is no longer on Ave. Lincoln behind the bank. That is how long I have been there.
Also he spoke of a chola type named Aylyn or Ilene. Any info?
Regarding tipping anywhere, I rarely do it. I'm too cheap but if and when I do its never more than 5 bucks. I know this kills the service for the second visit but again, rarely do I repeat a massage girl. The only MP girl I was a regular of was Perla at the Paraiso. She gave a legitimate massage. It was so good I wasn't interested in the sex. Are there any more like that out there?
Mug
My last trip (July), Venus was very much still there on Lincoln, but a few monthsaway from Juarez can mean a world of change, although since I've been going I can't remember a place closing...
TRex - just a "good wishes to you" post. Good luck and thanks for all your info's!
Safe mongering in your new locale!
Quote" The only MP girl I was a regular of was Perla at the Paraiso. She gave a legitimate massage. It was so good I wasn't interested in the sex. Are there any more like that out there?"
Yes, I got a great massage from a girl in Hispaniola, that was fab. And the sex after was even better.
Getting a great massage is worth a tip. And they will remember you.
And my favorita knows exactly where to start on me ..shoulder then knee, and then....hmmm...back to tipping, I tip her unlike any other woman, because we know each other so well. I give her more than I should, but she is worth it,and I get it back, and more, the next time I see her.
TRex, good luck in your new location. Even though Sonia's gone, Marylin's is still good. My favorite there is Alondra (sp?), who is tall, slender, and pretty (IMO). She does a good massage and GFE service. Karina also provides great service, but I don't find her as attractive as Alondra. I was the one that gave Cassandra a bad review, but judging by her other reviews, either she was just having a bad day or just didn't like me. I try to treat the girls nicely, but she didn't act like I was.
I like tipping the MP chicas if they give good service. If a girl gives good service and I know I'll be coming back, she'll get $10 so the second time will be better. The service standard for a tip at the $40 places is higher than the $30 places. At the bars if a girl tries to get more drinks out of me, that comes out of her tip money. Not many have figured out that their tip is inversely proportional to the number of dirnks I buy them.
Clydesdale,
I tip the MP girls much more than the bar girls, maybe for the same reasons. For the bar scene, I frequent Queens, and the girls there don't/can't ask for tips. But of course their drinks are outrageous. But an MP chica who gives me gfe is getting a nice extra.
Clydesdale, you are truly a gentlemen and a scholar (at least in the world of hobbying)! I visited Yolanda yesterday at Marilyn's, and she was all that you described, and more. Not as pretty as Sonia, but I would rate her looks a solid 7.5: nice face, decent breasts, and a fabulous ass. And she gave an authentic GFE, complete with DFK and BBBJ, so I would rate her performance pretty close to a 10. In fact we were so into it and took so much time going about our business that I had to spring for an extra session, making this the first time I've spent two hours with an MP girl. I find this incredible since I was a first-time client.
So thanks for the outstanding tip!
Hey TRex, if you are goint to live in a city which Southwest services, you can fly to El Paso/Juarez inexpensively.
I can get a round trip ticket from Phoenix to El Paso for less than $80, however one needs to reserve it about 21 days in advance.
Regarding Venus, it is still in the same place, near the Scotia Bank on Lincoln.
However, there is a second location on Hermanos Escobar called Venus II, which used to be Orientales, and near the Chinese restaurant.
I was in Juarez last week to buy some turquoise bracelets. How much do the vendors mark up the price when quoting prices?
I was looking to pick up some chunky turquoise bracelets for some early Chrsitmas gifts.
One place quoted me $75 for the same bracelet I was quoted $35 for at another store. I actually ended up buying the bracelet at the place that quoted me $75 after bargaining it down to $25. I guess it's hard trying to haggle for th ebest price when I don't know what they're really worth.
Thanks for any advice,
Dave
Hi All,
I have been living with my girl for almost a year now here in Juarez, working in El Paso during the day. I have no reports about the bar (that solicit) scene nor MP's since I live a fairly normal life here. However, for those that might be interested the new club that is VERY hot and popular is Vaqueras y Broncos. It is a very upscale club serving locals. Very safe, very hot place where you can meet all sorts of local gals. Probably the best looking girls in town and upscale. Lots of super looking college girls. Other than me you might be the only gringo there, but don't worry you will be safe and have fun.
This is for those who would like to try to "pick up" a super looking NonPro girl. Who knows, you might get lucky. By the way, judging from the cars in the parking lot, this is one place where the locals might make or have more money than you.
Thursday nights are the time to go, the place is packed.
Hey, I got lucky, perhaps you will too!!
Lucky Chuck
Where is this place located?
I know of another bar, right across from Venus on Lincoln, that has a Coyote Ugly night on Thursdays. I can't recall its name right now but the girls going there at that time of the week tended to be pretty upscale and great looking.
Dave 2
You're doing right by negotiating the price. If you're shopping in Centro on Juarez Avenue at the tourist junk shops. They'll start ridiculously high but can be gotten down to the level you mention. Amazing how many tourists pay what's asked
I don't know if I'd buy tourqouise down there are not although I suppose some nice pieces might be found. I'd look in some of the smaller shops up around the cathedral
[quote]I was looking to pick up some chunky turquoise bracelets for some early Chrsitmas gifts.
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Watch the jewelry, it is not authentic turquiose, this stuff is low grade fake. Worn on the arm, this stuff will, in all probability, turn your arm green, from sweat attacking the metal. Before buying any quantity, buy one small one and wear it for a day, you'll see.
Sun Devil...you are a real wealth of knowledge! I will have to check out Southwest's flights from my new locale. Taking a weekend to see some friends and re-acquaint myself with the wonders of CJ would certainly serve as an ideal vacation.
As for haggling in the markets: I never pay more than 25% of the original "asking" price. Often, you can do even better than that. Of course, the secret of haggling is being prepared to walk away.
If you're looking for good, authentic jewelry, pottery, and other crafts made in Mexico, I suggest you try a place called Fonart. It's located right across a small cone-shaped museum that's not far (to the south) from the Holiday on the Av. Lincoln. Wish I could give more precise directions, but I just follow my nose when I go there without paying too much attention (usually after a session at El Encanto, from which it's about a 15-minute walk). It's in a pretty neat modern building that is in the process of just being renovated. The stuff there is not necessarily cheap, and there's no haggling. But at least you can be assured of the quality of the merchandise.
I did worry about picking up non-authentic turquoise. I will take the advice and wear one on my wrist for a day (during a golf outing) and see what happens.
Any other craft markets worth checking out?
Thanks for all the help - Dave.
P.S. Went to El Encanto twice earlier in the week and had a great time. I wish they'd allow the room to be brighter.
In response to Sun Devil's request about the location of Vaqueras y Broncos, I know how to get there but I can't remember the address. I think their phone number is 646-611-6698. You will find that the music played here is the Mexican equivalent of US popular country western. This place is where the local go! If you have a Mexican girlfriend or want to take a chica out for a night that she will love, take her here. She will think you are a very "with it" type of guy who knows where the locals like to hang out. Again this is a very new and popular place. It is not cheap. The admission is 30 pesos (not bad) except for special nights where it can get as high as 250 pesos each. For example, one of the most famous Mexican groups, Palomo, played there on Wednesday night and they usually only play for LARGE audiences. The cost of drinks also varies depending on what night it is and if it is a special event. Usually a bucket of beers is about 300 pesos and a bottle is $500 pesos. On Wednesday night when Palomo was there the same bottle was $1,200 pesos! This is NOT a cheap place so that will discourage the budget shoppers among you. However, it is possible that not every one of you is looking for a $35 lay and may want to experience a more upscale sort of night life.
Regarding the bars and clubs across from Venus (I prefer to say across from Montana steak house) there are several. These clubs are frequented by upscale Mexican young adults and are quite good. There is a Martini bar (can't remember the name)electronic music and also a popular club called La Serata (http://www.laserata.com/) The local girls that you might meet will enjoy these clubs, but usually consider them to be full of snobby rich Mexicans. You would impress them more by taking them to Vaqueras y Broncos. Another place that locals like to go is The Rodeo off of Lincoln. Basically the same type of music as Vaqueras y Broncos but a little cheaper.
For a budget experience you could go to Diverse on Juarez Street, which plays the same kind of music and it is cheap and well attended. However, as in all of these places you would be the only gringo. Diverse is a club filled with mostly factory workers and does not have too many good looking girls. The security in all is VERY good, but you will probably not feel comfortable in Diverse. Low class place and people, you would be safe, but you would NOT feel safe. Vaqueras y Broncos or The Rodeo are MUCH better choices. Personally I think that if you went regulary to either of these latter places and were cool. (Hopefully able to dance the Cumbia too) you will sooner or later (probably sooner) get lucky.
Lucky Chuck,
Thanks for all the great info! Hopefully I'll be down there long enough to use the information.
i’ll try to keep things brief and to the point. but if i can’t, go get yourself a soda, cigarette, or whatever and pull up a chair.
i used to have a novia from summer of 1999 to 2000. no, not the kind we get comfortable with in the bars and mps. she was from chihuahua but worked as a domestic for a family in juarez. we were very serious to the point i wanted to cross her over on one of those border crossing cards. later the idea turned to getting married. she was all for the idea and so was i as it kept me away from the bar scene. we continued and she traveled on occasion to chihuahua city. i told her what we needed and all such as birth certificate passport photos, etc. well she hemmed and hawed over getting things done so i broke things off and she returned to chihuahua and i never saw here again. that was 4 years ago.
well in august (last month)i got a note from someone who received it from someone i don’t know. the note originated from the former novia. it said to call her at one of 2 numbers. i did but we kept getting cut off. a few days passed and by this time i was on vacation with an itch for travel. you guessed it, i wanted to take the bus to chihuahua to see the town and if she wanted, to see her. i called her up and told her as fast as i could before we got cut off again that i was headed to chihuahua. she said forget it. she was coming up the next day.
when she got here, believe me guys, i “interogatted” her about what this was all about and what were her intentions. she wanted to get back together. so i grilled her for more information like what she was doing these past 4 years. well she completed high school through the mexican equvolent of a ged and was attending “prepa” and i got it out of her that she had a novio for 3 of the last 4 years. i’m the kind of guy that appreciated truth. so i told her my status, truthfully of course. i told her about the websites i own and what my intentions are for them. she seems ok with it. so long story short i went off the deep end and accepted her back.
we talked long and hard that weekend and we are sure we want to pick up where we left off as mentioned above. she still has the puny engagement ring i bought her 4 years ago and she put it back on.
i haven’t mentioned any of this in the open forum because i didn’t want to appear all goo-goo and dopey. after all she had a history of half-stepping.
well she came up this weekend with all the stuff she needed to bring me; i.e. the certified copies of the birth certificate and passport type photos required by the application and she filled out the bio form that is also needed. she has really gotten her stuff together over the years.
so here i am, being mr. serious with all the papers put together. all i need now is to have her birth certificate translated and i need to scrape up 165 bucks for the application and send it all off and cross my fingers. it all should be in the mail by friday.
i have been using as guidance www.visajourney.com. i highly recommend this site to anyone who wants to do the same, if not now, maybe later.
are my mongering days over? that is a great big yes. will i still maintain the site? yes, i have obligations since i do have paying members. will i be able to resist temptation while giving tours and getting new pictures for the website? yes, i have not had so much as a twitch in my shorts.
well let me cut off here and let you guys get back to the business of real monger reports.
the filthy (but i don’t feel like it) one
Mugroso,
Good luck and I hope everything goes well for you too. Don't worry about one of your web site readers.
TT
Mugroso,
if you need any advise or have any questions about the fiance petition to bring your girl here, PM, me, I just recently finished one and my girl now has her resident card.
One BIG word of advise is, DON'T marry her in Mexico, it will delay paper work up to 6 years.
The fiance petition is the way to go.
Mug,
I am trying to pick my jaw up off the floor.
fiancée
Ragman
PS. Every relationship takes effort from both sides. Take the naysayers with a grain of salt and take the BEST WISHES from the rest of us to heart.
PPS. Alt+0233
Mugroso,
This means more Marilu for me!
Actually, congratulations are in order. A lady that makes you forget about the others is a good thing. Does this mean I have to organize the next palooza?
Clydsedale
A palozza does sound in order. Since I did a horrible job handling the last one would you mind doing it. Of course I will be in attendance but only as an observer. Any other takers? Who is available and when is a good time for the event.
About MariLu, is she still telling people she is pregnant?
And I thank you all for the words of encouragement.
Mug
Mugroso,
Keep things light. She flaked on you before; she'll flake on you again. People don't change.
You guys think the MP girls would mind me "finishing" w/o the condom on her face?
I would ask her, but we don't communicate very well.
It's something I've always wanted to try.
Mugroso - I remember when you told me about the person giving you the note and you sounded like she (the note writer) really meant something to you.
I'm sitting here with a big smile on my face. I'm happy for you, friend. Good luck to you and your "new world" - I'm sure it'll work out.
And whoever puts together a mongerpalooza - please post all the details ASAP!
I would be game for attending a Mongerpalooza. A question I have, is there any time in October that would not be a good time to plan a trip?? I would hate to come down during some sort of week long festival during which all the bars and MPs are closed. :-(
Keep things light. She flaked on you before; she'll flake on you again. People don't change.
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Coyote79
I hear you on the flake factor but I feel that hump has been crossed. Otherwise I wouldn't have gotten so personal with you guys. Trust me, with my years of experience not only in the zona but all over Juarez I have seen my share of flakes and empty promises and si, si, si, mañana.
As for people changing, I have to disagree using myself as the example. I have gone from good to bad to worse to so-so back to good and then on to everything else in between. Example, I used to swing big time when I was married, just don't tell my ex-wife, I never invited her. I'd hang out at the Fiesta Drive Inn waiting for any woman who wanted to fuck to come along. Then one day that stopped. I have had up to 3 girlfriends at once. (not recommended) I have had no girlfrinds, just putas as the main course. You see, people do change and it happens in any direction to varying degrees.
Whoratio
There is nothing coming up in October to interfere with your plans that I know of. But I do recommend you wait for Halloween weekend, it is a trip in the zona. Last Halloween I partied in a fag bar with MariLu on the condition she keep her hands on my ass the whole time we were in there. This kid will stay a virgin in that aspect.
Clydesdale
There is more of MariLu for everyone even when I was banging her. She is insatiable.
Mug
i just got approved to post so this is a little old.
i was in juarez in mid aug. i didn't know about this site then but and had a little information from elsewhere that was dated from the mid 90s. the 1st day i walked over the free bridge. thinking it was the bridge by the zona. needless to say i walked around a long time not finding anything. finally i went to a taxi.
i over paid for that 1st ride and i'm embarrassed to say how much but he took me to the pink lady. i studied spanish years ago but all i remember is hola. inside i sit down and yami or yam yam (i can't remember exactly) comes up to me. it was awkward because she didn't speak much english just asking standard phrases like "how are you" etc. finally i said "room" and she understood so we went to where you pay. i paid $60 for a half hour.
after we get in the room i gently touch and kiss her. later i motion for her to get me head. but she is hesitant. she asks if i will tip her but i tell i can't because between the taxi and her i'm out of money. she says "well, ok for you". so i get a bbbj for a few mins. her oral skills are average.
we start missionary and i felt like pounding it so i did fairly hard. she was good underneath working it with me and grabbing my ass etc. we do doggie next. i still feel like slamming it so i do. after awhile she reaches under and grabs my balls. she was holding them very tightly, normally i don't like that but it turned me on.
i decide to go back to missionary. this is where she bothered me a little. she checked the condom to see if i had come. i have complete control in that area. i can pound a pussy bareback full speed for as long as i want. in fact with a condom i have trouble making myself come.
so i hit it a little bit more and want her on top. again she checks the condom and accuses me of coming. i didn't particularly like her technique on top but i am picky about that position. after a while i want to do missionary again and you guessed it she carefully examines the condom tip for come.
so now i'm a little pissed and turned off by her. and now i can't come. i almost wished i had got her for all night just so i could fuck her like a jack hammer for 6 or 7 hours until she understood the point that i have control over my load.
i decide to stop and didn't bother comming. that's not so bad for me because i enjoy sex even without orgasm. she would have been a great lay had she not tried to rush me. but she was the best looking girl there in fact the only one i would fuck. that is until we walked out and i saw roxanne.
I don't know when I will be back to Juarez ,as my travels have now taken me to places that have captured my craving for chicas and places that don't see many americanos. I will say ,that this board has been enriched immeasurably by Mugroso and his very witty reports and comments.
THAT being said... what the hell are you doing getting with only one chica?!!! This girls either got a rack that is amazing or a hoover for a p***y. Fess up.
I think falling in love with a Mexican girl is an excellent choice. Had I been just 10 years younger I would have married my year-long girlfriend whom I called here "the neighbor". Regarding this situation, the girl went to a lot of trouble to find him and seems to have matured. If not, I'm sure Mugruso will figure that out pretty quickly. Pretty hard to have a broken heart for long in Juarez...
I just chose not to go the married path, but I'd sure pick a girl from Latin America if I ever changed my mind. Every American woman I ever had as a wife, girlfriend, or lover was a royal pain in the ass compared to Latin women. They still enjoy cooking for you, showering you with affection, and still send out strong tie signs that tells everyone else hands off. American women, well...you all know how they are. Screw 'em. One trip to Latin America in '99 cured me of any desire to ever be with one again, and I haven't.
Rearwindow,
She has "style". MariLu is not a gauge or standard. She was always a piece of ass and not marry material. Its not pussy or tits but the matter of a good woman. I have always felt good around her.
And thank you for your compliment. I have enjoyed this site and you guys immensly. I'd like to meet more of you guys next time there is a mongerpalozza.
Mug
DreamingEagle wrote:
Every American women I ever had as a lover was a royal pain in the ass compared to Latin women.
I remember a news report about a "cupid" in Columbus NM how hooked up American men with Mexican women. The reporter asked about the language barrier. The guy replied, "Hell, I was married to an American woman for 20 years and never understood a damn thing she said".
I laughed my ass off and I hope you guys are too.
I can relate. My x-wife was a Viet refugee who left Saigon hours before it fell. But she grew up her as American as you can get. Good riddence. But then again I should send her a thank you note for leaving me and I would have never met my novia.
Mug
"About MariLu, is she still telling people she is pregnant?"
Last week she told me she she had 8 kids and couldn't have any more. Previous reports had her with 7.
The Marilu pregnant thing started a couple of months ago when someone posted they didn't know whether they dreamed it or not. It seems she would be showing by now, but then again she was MIA for a couple of weeks. If you have any intel let us know.
Thanks for the advice, Mugroso. Perhaps Halloween weekend would be a good time for a Mongerpalooza?
Actually that report originated on 7/7/04, and was from the horses mouth, according to the poster, who has been very reliable. Of course, she may have been pulling his sausage.(another Romeism, for those that know)
Hi guys,
I had been living in El Paso for about 3 months, and visited Juarez practically everyday. I should have been posting the entire time but had computer problems.
Background info-- I'm in my mid-twenties, blond gringo. Average build, etc. I'm pretty tough ****** myself. I've done a good deal of traveling in South America, East Asia, and Eastern Europe with no problems.
When I first arrived in Juarez walking over the Santa Fe bridge I was very cautious. But, after a few days I was walking down many of the streets during the day.
Weeks later I was walking home from many of the MP's and disco's at night.
After two months of visiting Juarez I was meeting car loads of girls, jumping in, and going to some unknown chica's house in an unknown location for sex with four or five chicas whose names I had not yet learned. Very crazy and very fun. I'm not making this stuff up. Really.
Basically I was not using as much common sense as I always did in the past. I started to feel too safe in this city, and was using the wrong head to make decisions.
Last week I had some very bad luck.
I was simply walking down Juarez Ave at about 2am. I was not drunk, and simply alone walking towards El Paso. A motley gang of about 10 teenagers was walking towards me the other direction. No words we're exchanged. As they approached one pulled out a club and hit me in the head very hard. This occurred for no reason whatsoever. I did not see it coming. I stayed concious and on my feet. Suddenly I was in a fight for my life. These punks didn't want money, just a stupid fight for no reason. I put up a decent fight before the sewer rats ran off. I took a pretty good beating. My face looks like a slab of hamburger.
This incident made me realize I had been way to careless in Juarez the past two months. I actually may not monger in Juarez again, this incident simply scared me way to much. Well, I might, maybe. But I have already moved. I may return some day, maybe.
Guys, Juarez is mongering paradise, or a wonderful place to find a real girlfriend, or wife.
But I would argue from personal experience that this is the most dangerous city in Mexico per capita-- and don't forget it. I'm making this statistic up, I doubt if I'm correct, but it sounds good, and makes my point. Please be careful. Stupid things can happen down here, even if your simply walking down the street minding your own business. I learned that the hard way.
I hope this post will keep a few of you out of trouble.
have fun, but be smart and alert.
nb
I wish Mugroso and any other American man the best of luck who decides to hook up permanently with a Latin female. I have been married to both, an American and a Mexican, and I found overall for marriage the American better. We should not stereotype, but sometimes it's best to stay where we're in our own back yard.
The Mexicana I wed was from the Campestre area (country club) of Juarez. Beautiful but spoiled. But other Mexican women I have dated had very similar qualities. Once these Latinas get their hooks in you I have found them to be quite mandona (bossy). My wife sure was. It was her way or else. An excellent cook she was and kept an impecible casa, but I never felt it was my house. These ladies can also have very sharp tongues and show little respect to us U.S. males. A key thing as well is, nearly all that I've known are GOLDDIGGERS. Bottom Line: No money, no honey. Mine was certainly that way. And their family, kids, hermanos, primos, etc., and weekly get togethers are more important than you are. Trust me on this!
I have other American men friendswho hooked up with them and had similar experiences. In one case his novia hit him over the head with a beer bottle when angered. Another friend married a lady of the night and she hit him on the head with a telephone, called the police and put him in jail.
Again, we should not stereotype. My American was far from perfect. But about Latin women I've heard it said, "Great to bed but hell to wed." In most cases I feel the smartest two words in the English language are "stay single."
Cada quien (to each his own) My Freedom
Mongering trip to CJ September 12th to 15th.
9/13/04 – Masaje Sirena:
An afternoon urge to be pampered and to have some intimate fun brought my self to the front door of Sirena (Calle Panama and Hermanos Escobar). The directions given in recent previous posts are correct. I was met at the door by Oyuki, whom I was with and reported on last month. She seemed glad to see me and was very eager to bring me to her pleasure nest. She prepared the Jacuzzi as we both disrobed. While bathing and relaxing we talked, played, and stimulated each other’s erogenous zones (including passionate kissing).
We both were very receptive to each others touch and needs at that moment. She was a little more relaxed this time (so was I) and Mr. Happy had no trouble performing. She seems to be satisfied DATY and gets off very easy that way. Total cost was a little higher with 400 pesos for basic services and 200 pesos for the Jacuzzi. It was a good experience for me though and I will return again.
9/14/04 – Masaje Marilyn:
Marilyn's is at 2900 Del Ejido (at the corner of Del Ejido and Juan Escutia) and what appears to be a residential neighborhood. The directions given in recent previous posts are correct. At the time of this visit, the building was unmarked and you would never know it was a massage parlor. I did knock at the No. 2900 building (southeast corner) and was greeted by three very decent looking senoritas (two short and one tall). The tall girl had legs that wouldn’t quit so I chose the very thin and sexy Alandra. She stands about 5 foot 10 inches with her high-heels off.
She was very affectionate towards me and provided a true GFE experience. After a very good massage (great hands) it was time to have a little action. We proceeded to have a very intense session and surprisingly let me finish in her mouth (BBBJCIM), swallowing every bit of juice I could muster (I was drained). She also liked reverse massage, DATY, and came at least twice that I could feel (I must have been the first customer of the day). Cost was 350 pesos. For those of you who like a tall and affectionate woman, she is your girl!
9/15/04 – Masaje Cleopatra:
While waiting for my flight out of El Paso, I decided to kill a little time and went to Cleopatra for a massage and some morning fun (25 yards east of Ignacio Mejia and Av. Juarez). The directions given in recent previous posts are correct. There were two senoritas there, however I chose the very cute and petite Marlena. She is 21 years old, stands about 5 foot 4 inches (can’t be more that 105 lbs.), has a child of 10 months, and is from Durango, Durango MX.
After taking a shower, she proceeded to give me a decent massage. For her size, she has a lot of power in her hands. Exploring her lower areas found a nice sweet smelling and very tight pussy. She seemed to like DATY and BJ with condom. Since I was having trouble finishing so she took off the condom and “massaged me” until I came. Cost was 350 pesos. It was a pleasant experience with a very nice and cute young lady.
Thanks for the tips guys!
ML
Nice MP Report Massage Lover,
I am going to Juarez on Tues I was thinking of staying at the hotel across the street from Sirena, How does that sound? Also where is the best place to get your money exchanged? Did you take taxis to all the MP's Because I plan on visiting all the ones you did? Any mention of toda la noche? I am going there maybe for a GFE/Wife what do you think were the girls receptive? What was your total damage? MP's,taxi?
I have to fly in from Cincy taxi or the Juarez border jumpers?
Wow, lots of good info posted last night!
New Bound & My Freedom—
sorry about your experience.
Massage Lover—
Thanks for all the info.
I had a similar experience with Marlena at Cleopatra’s.
But I’m waiting for Claudia to come back.
Anyone know what happened to her? She hasn’t been there the past two times I’ve gone.
NB, walk through the "wrong" part of Detroit, Chicago, LA, or any other big AMERICAN city one of these days at 2am and see what happens to your white, blonde ass.
My 2nd day in Juarez I went back to the pink lady to see Roxanne. I saw her on my way out the day before. This girl is very hot. By far the best looking girl in there.
My experience with her was much better than Yami the day before. The only bad thing was she didn't want to give me bbbj or kiss on lips. But she didn't rush me at all and her fucking skills were excellent. She really got into it with me, grabbing my ass pulling me deeper, working her hips underneath etc.
I left town and returned 2 weeks later. In the meantime I bought a Spanish in your car CD. It help bring back a lot what I learned years before.
1st night back. I wandered all over town near the zona. I walked into every bar I saw. Unfortunately I wasn't attracted to any of the women in Juarez. It's kinda funny having the women grab you on the street. Or walking by them and they ask "wanna fuck?"
I walked into Laura's and this women Maria grabbed me almost immediately. She seemed older like 30. She wasn't super attractive but far better than anyone else I saw that night. We went to the bar tender to translate. The funny thing is now I could understand Spanish much better. She told her the lowest she was willing to go was $30. The bartender tells me it will be $60. I told her I was only willing to pay $35 and lol that was agreed price.
Maria's breast's were very unattractive so I didn't give her any foreplay there like I normally would. I laid on the bed and she gave me a bbbj. It was nice that she started doing it naturally without being asked or hinted at. After a little bit I decided to fuck her.
She fucked well nothing spectacular but above average.
I walked by Laura's the next day at 3:00pm. Some fatchick grabbed me and started walking with me like I was her boyfriend. The Laura's owner asked me if I wanted her. I looked at him like yea right. So he says he has a sister next door. The girl body was nice but I wasn't attracted to her. He said I could have her for $10.
I have fairly high standards but if you're not as picky I guess you can get girls really cheap there.
New Bound,
Thanks for the warning, I hope this doesn't stop you from finding fun in Juarez.
KB
Check out what I found that is lurking in cyberspace.
http://www.sleepyiguana.com/
I had better get this out now.
I held off as long as I could in telling you guys about my good fortune. I waited until I was proof positive that she was serious this time. That proof positive was last weekend when she came up to fill the papers and bring me her birth certificate. To me that showed me her sincerity.
The 4 years we were apart she had a novio. Its natural, we all want somebody. Today on the phone she told me she is returning to him.
I'm sorry I wasted you guys time. I really appreciated the kind words and encouragement.
Mugroso,
I feel for you. That was a pretty quick affair there. Hopefully it will turn out for the best for everyone involved.
Sorry to hear it Mug. And I was just getting ready to post felicidades!
Mugroso,
Very sorry to hear of your experience. But far better to learn this now than six months down the road. I just had a VERY similar experience. Last winter I was dating a Mexicana who was separated from her husband. I was nuts about her and we had agreed to hook up permanently. And then,we made a date for last April and she didn't show upand there was no phone call. In cases like this, I don't try to make contact as I feel it's HER position to do that. I didn't hear from her until last August when she said she had gotten back with her husband and gotten pregnant with him. Now she wants me to help her pay for a divorce and get her U.S. papers and live in EP with me. She pulled this same damn stunt on me back in 1998-98 and I took her back. Once burned, twice shy, and no way Jose will I take her back this time. Life is too short to suffer like this.
New Bound, I have lived in Juarez steadily since 1984. But I can tell you one thing, NO WAY would I walk the streets of Juarez much after 11:00 P.M., let alone 2:00 A.M. Again, very sorry to hear of your experience, but as for me, when 10 or 11 P.M. arrives and if I have or haven't found a willing companion, my butt is headed to my car and I head to the casa. Manana is another day..because in Cd. Juarez, if sewer rats don't get you, it's damn certain the police will.
Have Fun with Caution, My Freedom
[b]New Bound,[/b]
Thanks for posting about your experience on Juarez Ave. It's warnings like yours that remind us to keep our defenses up when mongering in El Centro area.
I've been mongering at the Casa Colorada for about 3 years now, and I'm still scared shitless when I venture down that way.
Zuzax
No apologies needed here.
Viva Mongerpalooza!
I've been using so much spanish now that apologies looked wrong..help.I had to go to my spanish/english dictionary to get the english spelling...lol.
It’s been a while since I was in El Paso and even longer that I’ve been across to Juarez to take in some of the lovelies at the MP scene In Juarez. I was looking at the WSG Juarez thread and noticed some familiar names from a Yahoo forum I used to belong to – Zuzax, Dreaming Eagle, Dougie, good to see you guys are still hanging tough. Is the Yo Amo Latinas board still active? Unfortunately, I got caught with the chingoneus@yahoo email address and had to give it up so I lost track.
DE, I remember on the other forum when you were talking about getting your website up and running. I saw the website today for the first time-WOW, it looks great. What a fantastic job you’ve done. I hope it’s a good source of steady income for you. I see you’re still giving guys advice on Latin women-I will have to agree with you about one thing-I also enjoy knowing they rec’d pleasure from the experience.
Now, regarding my visit today to Juarez. I drove across the border with no problems and had every intention of going to Marilyn’s because of the great write-ups everyone else had written except I couldn’t find any directions to Marilyn’s. I guess I didn't take the time to look thru every post or I would have found directions to Marilyns. I didn’t save the directions from the Yahoo group so all I had was the address. I’ve never been to Marilyn’s so I just decided to check out Cleopatra since I thought I could find it. I did find Cleopatra’s but when I went inside, I was told it was 350N$ for an hour and there was no one there that looked doable. I heard one of the girl’s name-Betty, and she had some big boobs spilling out of her dress along with a bright smile, but looking down towards her waist I caught a glimpse of a rather big potbelly. No thanks. She probably would want to do it Cowboy and end up breaking my hips.
I got back in my car and headed towards some of my other old haunts. Went to Corpus II on Jose Borunda and walked in on 3 Oriental gentlemen who were talking to two girls about the prices in the lobby. I heard one guy talking in Spanish and then relayed the info to his buddies. No way I could tell if they were Korean, Chinese, or Japanese. The guy doing the negotiating seemed displeased at the selection, but the girls were telling him that all the rest of the girls were occupied. I caught one of the girls attention and asked her how much-she said 300N$ and I said “Vamonos”. So off we went-I don’t know if the Oriental guys were upset or not but I saw something I liked and jumped right in ahead of them.
She took me upstairs into a room, I gave her 400N$, got undressed and took a shower. She took the money downstairs, came back and hung a towel for me on the shower door. When I got out of the shower, she asked if I wanted a massage and I said yes, a little. I asked her what her name was-she said Mire – I guess it’s short for Mireya.
She started a massage and although it was not the best I’ve ever received, it did relax my back muscles. I remarked that I had no idea what the Oriental guys were talking about-she giggled and said, yeah, who knows. I turned over and she rubbed on my chest and then took her clothes off. I sat up and began playing with her really nice boobies-probably a 36C. I reached around and squeezed her butt cheeks-wow were they firm! Mire is about 5’10”, Black hair, light olive skin, probably a 36C-28-37, and about 130 lbs. She also has one front tooth that has a thin gold wrap around the edge.
Mire is soft-spoken and has a very, very sweet demeanor. After I squeezed on her a bit she reached down and started rubbing on me and woke little Buford up. She asked if I liked oral, I said yes. She said she would do oral for a “propinita”, a little tip, but she didn’t wait for an answer because she had already started going down in little Buford’s immediate vicinity. I asked how much, she said whatever you feel is right. Now this is a real change from the typical hardnosed “do it quick, give me the money, and get out” types I’ve been with before.
I’ve been up-sold on services before, but it’s never been left up to me to decide how much. The really great part is she proceeded to do a BBBJ without my asking. Very soft, smooth tongue action, AND, she deep throated it several times, all the way down to the base without gagging. Now that’s a definite GFE.
After she had done a BBBJ for a while, I gave her a hug and she asked me to hug the middle of her back and rub upwards. I guess her back hurt or she had a knot in it. I asked her to lie down and I gave her a back massage. She moaned like she was enjoying it. I then reached down and began massaging her coochie and heard her say, “hay, que rico”, along with some more moaning. Actually, I heard her moaning, AND I heard another girl moaning rather loudly from another room down the hall. Based on the loud and rhythmic moaning coming from down the hall, the other girl must have been in absolute ecstasy. Maybe a porn star was in town getting a massage down the hall?
Mire got off the padded table, handed me a condom and watched me put it on. Then she took up a position leaning over the table and helped slide me into her so we could do it doggie style. I finally got a good look at her tail and IT IS ONE NICE PIECE OF FIRM ASS. I noticed she had a tattoo across the small of her back. It wasn’t a biker tattoo, but one with flowery designs.
Mire enjoyed the doggie action and said it was “rico”. We did it for a while and every time I moved in the right position or direction, she would say, “si, si, asi, asi, or yes, yes, like that, like that. Man, was she tight! She was so tight I slowed down my thrusting or I knew I wouldn’t last very long.
When I finished, she cleaned me up and started cleaning up the room. She put the sheet from the padded table on the floor next to the shower door so I wouldn’t fall on the wet tile-very considerate of her. I took another shower to remove the oil on my body.
After I finished showering, she took a shower as well. We talked after and I asked if she ever went across the border to El Paso. She said she couldn’t anymore because she lost her visa. She used to go over all the time because she used to work as a waitress in El Paso. She misses her waitress job because she made good money. Mire said she doesn’t get paid very much at Corpus II.
She asked me if I came over very often for a massage-I told her it had been a long time since I had been by. I asked her how long she had worked here-she said about 4 months. I asked if she liked it-she said no, not at all. I told her maybe it was because some of the clientele tended to act like animals. She nodded yes.
As I said earlier, Mire has a very sweet demeanor, she did not rush me, she was tender, very loving, stroked me like you would expect a lover would, performed a BBBJ without insisting on a condom, said she would accept whatever tip I deemed appropriate, and she gave me feedback to let her know when it felt good. A really great experience- I would heartily and lustily recommend her to everyone.
I let her keep the 100N$ change from the 400N$ I gave her at the beginning of the session as a tip and she was okay with that. Maybe it was too much tip, maybe I should have given her the exact amount and given her a smaller tip, but she was the best MP girl I have had since I was in Monterrey over 2 years ago. If anyone is nearby and gets a chance, go see her, she was working at 3pm when I stopped in. I don’t think you’ll be disappointed.
I left very satisfied, but thought about having another session at another old haunt. So I drove down to Loryed and went upstairs. A guy opened the guy and called me “Mister”. He led me down the hall and asked me to sit down on one of the chairs next to a couple of girls. He came back a couple of minutes later and said, “Mister, pase”, or Mister, please come this way. He led me to the room in the back and offered to show me all the girls. I asked him how much the session was-he said they are currently 250N$ for 45 minutes. Not a bad deal, and there was definitely a bigger selection of younger girls here-I saw at least 7 girls and all except one had to be under 25 years old.
I asked him what time they closed, he said 10pm. I told him I needed more money, but I really didn’t.
I had enough money, I just didn’t think I’d be ready to go again after the great session with Mire at Corpus II just 15 minutes earlier. On my way out the door, one of the girls asked why I wasn’t staying-I told her I needed more money. She asked if I was coming back later and I said yes. She said she hoped I would so she could have a session with me and she squeezed my arm and smiled like she really wanted to do something very naughty with me. Great attitude, or great salesmanship. But that’s how it's always been at Loryed.
Back in the Saddle Again,
Chingoneus
Want a really good steak dinner (or lunch)? Try El Tor0 Bronco on Av. de las Americas #1111. Not a fancy place but a REALLY good meal. prices run from 90-100 pesos or so. I feast for 5 with a platter of steak, soup and a really big (fire roasted) baked potato runs 280 pesos.
Chingoneus,
Hey can you give me directions on how to get to Loryds and Corpus 2. Thanks ahead of time.
Zoo
I wrote about Vacqueras y Bronco before and thought that some might like to see what the place looks like. Here is a picture of Palomo that I took with my cell phone.
Hope some of you have gone and had a good time!
I was coming out of Cleopatra's today, and this guy rolls up on me & says he's the owner of both Venus MP. He gives me his card . . . he says next time go to Venus.
I would go, but after reviewing the reports you guys posted about the place I'm not too eager.
Extra for oral & kissing? Fuck that!
Or do I have the wrong impression of Venus?
I don't read the posts here much anymore - but I did pick up on several posts recently related to hooking up with a Mexican chica. I've been supporting and dating my chica now for over two years. There has been pain and there has been joy - but the latter overflows more abundantly.
The pain emanates primarily from my wanting to screw her every time I see her - and she is not that driven. (By the way, I "took her away" from a brothel in el centro). But the joy revolves around her tender, sensitive and genuine love for me. She loves to cuddle and she always says, "Necisito abrazos". And she has 4 daughters who absolutely adore me.
Initially we planned on getting married. But circumstances did not permit that. More recently I had decided to leave her and head for central Mexico by myself to live happily ever after. I made that decision after we all took a vacation to central MX this past July and I just decided that our lifestyles were just too different for living together. And I was dissappointed in some miscommunications as well.
I told her on the way home I would plan to move to Zacatecas alone. She did not say much. Well, October first was to be the big day to leave her. I had my FM3, sold most everything I owned, did detailed planning, etc., etc. But last Sunday while making my "last" visit, she was hurting. And I was the only one in the crowd who could tell. It was a lousy farewell as we hardly talked. And the girls did not really pick up on the fact that I was finally leaving.
But, to make a short story long - you guessed it - I have decided to remain in the area. I kept thinking about the smile that she flashed as I was leaving several weeks ago. There is not a movie actress in Hollywood who could come close to matching that smile - very tender, very fresh, very sensitve - with her eyes penetrating my inner being like nothing I've ever experienced before.
My return trip back to her to tell her I was staying was sweet. She did not know how to react for awhile. She wandered all over the casa picking up things and rearranging them. I sat for awhile and reviewed the homework the girls always thrust in my face. I then told her I was returning to El Paso. She nodded softly. While we were alone in the doorway, she gently asked with a great deal of inquisitiveness, "John, why are you not going to Zacatecas?" I looked at her and said, "Because of you". She glanced away quickly as her eyes glistened with moisture. I remained looking at her and then asked, "Entiendes?" She softly nodded and revealed that subtle irrisistable smile. She asked, "When will you be returning here?" I said, "Next Sunday at 2 p.m."
Ever since that final decision, I have felt peaceful. The one post was correct in mentioning how the weekend fiestas with the family were far more important than any roll in the hay from the chica's perspective. And it's true. When we go to visit her sister and the other family, she will talk her head off about her family as we return home in the car. She tells me her good they are, etc., etc. But I like the family events. They have accepted me 100% - their house is my house.
I don't like Juarez particulary - especially finding suitable housing that is inexpensive. And El Paso's housing is not much better for something on the lower price range. I'm not a fat cat and I don't know just where I'll end up living. But I'll be over there on weekends again. Waiting for the next family fiesta.
EPG
Took two weeks off from my mongering. Weekend one was spent battling a hoard of roaches which invaded my RV during the rainy season and settled in the cabinets before I discovered them. Tough fight, but I won. Weekend two was too engrossed in a new web project to even look up. The doctor had also told me he wanted me to do a chemotherapy regimen for the skin cancer, so I was depressed. Didn't even leave the apartment once.
Last weekend, however, found me predictably eager to get with a hot young lady. Fuck the doctor. I didn't have to take his advice! I was ready to live again! So I picked one at a regular place whom I have known a while but only been with once. First time was great enough. Second time, this time, the vibes were just right, and, utterly lacking in judgement, we found ourselves doing it without a condom. She is tall, and it started standing up with her leaning against the massage table. Then it went to the massage table, and there was no turning back.
This is the fourth MP girl this has happened with in the last four months. I seemed to have learned how to take it slow enough and let her take the lead and just inevitably open herself up to the point the situation demands total surrender. Trouble is, much as I LOVE that hot, wet, tight, young pussy, the worries later probably outweigh the pleasure. What if she gets pregnant, somehow, and blames it on me? What if it actually IS me responsible? I don't worry too much about diseases since they are so strict with the condom rules nomally and aren't drug addicts or something, just the pregnancy. I also get hooked on it and keep coming back and making the same mistake all over again.
Ah, well...at least life is fun... but this sin condon has got to stop!
DreamingEagle - I wonder if that was the same tall young lady that offered the same to me a few weeks back. It started the same way, with her leaning back against the table. I don't know if she was insulted when I grabbed the condom and put it on, but if I was worried about catching something there wouldn't have been so much bare contact up to that point. Before I go sin condom I have to be comfortable that I won't catch anything or get a girl pregnant. I've gone bare with chicas when those conditions are met. If we are talking about the same girl, that is one hot lady!
Mugroso - I did Diana1 a couple of weeks ago. I paid a price that will p*** off mongers, but really wanted to try her out. We had a deal that Diana1 and Diana2 would both go to the room with me together that night, but Diana2 was late to work, so I took 1 to the room by herself. Diana sandwich was all I could think aboout all day, so it was a bit of a disappointment. 1 may be prettier, but I prefer 2 because she has so much energy and is such a character. She's never a disappointment.
How many monger have had this disappointment? In the bar a chica is super hot and gets you all worked up, and then goes dead when you get her to the room. Her attitude becomes ' here, use my pussy, and I'll lay here and suffer through it'. I took a girl from Dia y Noche last night and that happened. I'll buy her a drink anytime, but never take her to the room again. Her name is Nadia, if I understood her correctly.
[b][quote]How many monger have had this disappointment? In the bar a chica is super hot and gets you all worked up, and then goes dead when you get her to the room.[/quote][/b]
We've all probably had that happen to us before. The one I remember the most was with Celeste from the Casa Colorada. She would just stare at me with a total look of boredom while I was doing her. Then after a few minutes she hit me with the moment killing response of:
[b]"Finished yet, Amigo???"[/b]
Zuzax
Hey Chingoneus,
[b][quote]Is the Yo Amo Latinas board still active?[/quote][/b]
The last post was back in April, so I'd have to say "No." That Elk Dreamer guy was the one who pretty much kept it alive, but he got mad at the quality of some of the posts. He took a break from the board and it pretty much ended then.
Also, most of the regular members moved on to other things. From what I can remember:
One guy moved to Dallas. (Glen)
One guy took on a girlfriend. (Bob)
One guy went to Germany and was doing Thailand girls. (Jaime)
I don't know about the other guys. They might be on this board under different names. Who knows??
I sure do miss the life and times of "Elk Dreaming Eagle" though.
Zuzax
chingoneus,
hey can you give me directions on how to get to loryds and corpus 2. thanks ahead of time.
zoo
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zoo,
man i'm terrible at directions. it took me too many tries to find them the first time. i know that corpus ii is in a small strip shopping center on the corner of jose borunda and peru. after i cross the bridge, i go south to vicente guerrero. then left on vic guerrero until i pass peru, then double back on jose borunda. it's crazy but it's how i learned to get there. it's best to double back if you are driving because you don't want to go the wrong way on a one way street. and be careful if you see any yellow flashing lights anywhere in the afternoon-that means it's a school zone and the cops will hide behind a car or a tree and nail you for speeding in a school zone. have some bribe money ready because you ain't getting away with this scam when they stop you. it happened to me in monterrey. they just "guess" at your speed and you either pay or ...... you know the rest.
loryeds took me longer but i finally found it too. i went east on triunfo de la republica and after about a mile i got into the right service road-it connects every block to the main street. you'll go past several car dealers and you turn right when you see a sign for the hotel monte carlo-i think? go about two blocks and there will be a bldg on the right with a second floor and glass front windows. that's loryeds.
if i were you, i'd check back thru some of the older posts-i'm sure some of the regulars can give you better directions. btw, if you buy an el paso city map, it will have most of the juarez streets on the bottom of one side of the map. that's how i got around juarez.
best of luck,
ching
Here we go again. A few weeks free of this but last night about 9:00 P.M. right on Av. Juarez I'm walking along the busy boulevard with lots of people and get stopped by two cops. Two on bikes and a 3rd on foot who just happened to speak perfect English. No badges of police ID could be seen and that is troublesome. One cop took my wallet, handed me my money and searched extensively. The English speaking cop, who I have dealt with before, asked if I had been drinking beer, did I use drugs, did I have a knife, etc.? Finally he asked where my car was and I said "El Paso." They let me go and said to have a "nice evening." Oh, they also wanted to know where I was going and I said to "a restaurant." I later met up with a SW amiga of mine and she made the evening VERY worthwhile. I told her what happened and she said nearly all the cops are out for one thing and that is to rob you, plain and simple. I had my SW fun money well hidden. So again I say, be careful! And remember this happened on the busiest boulevard loaded with a lot of people.
My Freedom
[b]death of the sleepy iguana[/b]
well guys, i'm writing this from cd. juarez where i just learned the fate of the sleepy iguana. they were busted for employing a 14 y/o with false papers. this probably sounds the death knell for this place as the word is the owner is facing fines totaling $50,000.00.
seems as though sheila, the negotiator, late of panama and casa colorado amongst others was in on the deal from the beginning and helped set the owners up for the fall. sources tell me she was the one who presented the **** girl to the owner and insisted he hire her and she watched from the street corner as the raid went down. apparently the owner wasn't playing by the rules of the zona and this was his fate. i have this from an unimpeachable source so i guess we all need to raise a glass to it's demise.
on other fronts, leo and company, the americans managing the panama served thier last beer last night. as i predicted when they first took over the plave from nieto, that he would wait until all the improvements were made and then come in and kick them out. it happened. nieto's back in and the brothers are gone. nieto plans on putting another american in to manage for him by the name of "grover". stay tuned.
any of you guys in town tonight, i'll be meeting mugroso at 1900 at plaza mariachi for a breif get acquainted visit. anyone else that would like to join us, feel free. it would be nice after all this time to put faces to the posts.
see you there hopefully. i'll be the good looking older fat guy in the hawaiian shirt and crew cutfighting manfully to ward of the hoardes of chicas flocking to my space.
adios
'...fate of the Sleepy Iguana. They were busted for employing a 14 y/o with false papers.' - BorderJumper
What would happen if you were in the room with the 14 year old when that happened? I hope that isn't happening in any other clubs.
Clydesdale asked:
"What would happen if you were in the room with the 14 year old "?
I hope you are not serious about asking that question. The age of consent is not 14 on either side of the Rio Bravo. The "She said/She looked" older defense does not work on either side. As the adult, the responsibility is yours, NOT the child's. We leave the "Land of the Free" to enter a country that freely allows consenting adults to enter into contracts between themselves. The key phrase is "consenting adults". There are 14 to 17 year olds everywhere that look and act more "mature". The burden still lies with the adult to be more "adult". Google the term "jail bait" if you need more.
Ragman
Ps. The US has recently enacted laws that would have you charged with a felony here even if you could bribe your way out in the country where the paedophiling took place.
Anyone know if they still do the donkey shows in Juarez? And if they do, where at? If you don't want to post it, PM me!
Thanks fellas, and El Paso/Juarez sounds like heaven, I hope to move there someday.
Donkey shows are just a phoney come on used by the cab drivers to entice to go you to the Pink Lady or Casa Colorado so they will get half of what you pay for sex. In my 20 years of living in the El Paso area I have never seen a donkey show.
Ragman replied to Clydesdale better than I could have and he is absolutely correct..
The whole thing was a setup from the beginning to make sure that bar failed. You can't run a bar in Mexico, American style and you can't go head to head with the big boys in the sex biz without getting taken down a notch or two,
ragman - 'i hope you are not serious about asking that question.'
the serious part about that question is if there's 14 year olds working in the bars, how do you make sure you're not getting one - ask for id from every girl you take to the room? that's why a sw is a foolish risk, but the dancers are supposed to be screened. due to my limited spanish, my feeble attempts at conversation usually are how old are you, how many kids,etc. my preference is 25-35 y/o, but if there's minors working in the bars, that's an element of danger i don't want.
imagine this situation - you're sitting in a bar here in the u.s. you buy a lady a drink, and it turns out she is a minor who snuck into the bar. do you get busted for buying liquor for a minor, or does the bar get busted?
i'm well aware of the law, and technically anyone in the iquana at the time could have been arrested for corrupting a minor. i'm wondering if they were.
maybe the mexican bar owners wouldn't set up each other, but i wouldn't want to be caught in the mess if they did. has anyone heard of any **** problems in the mps?
Just made my first trip to Juarez. Not as easy to get around in as the smaller Mexican towns I have visited. I did find Enchanto per previously posted directions. First time I had a small girl, about 5" 4", thin and attractive. She does not come in until 3 PM. Great on oral, just lays there while you finish.
Second trip I took Selena (like the singers name). Litter older and a little fuller figuer. Very good experience. Sat in my lap on the table with my back against the wall for a start, gave me a good working out. No problem with different positions. Not as good oral as with the other girl but will go back if I have the time. Speaks very little English. Good profesional girl. No real faking but some very good moves. Does not rush and a good overall attitude.
Border Jumper Wrote:
The whole thing was a setup from the beginning to make sure that bar failed. You can't run a bar in Mexico, American style and you can't go head to head with the big boys in the sex biz without getting taken down a notch or two.
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I would say that any American who gets involved in the sex business there is a total idjit. Not publishing the Juarez Men's Guide was the best decision I ever made.
Ok guys, this isn't a sulky, lamenting post.
Help a dirty guy out with his vocabulary. I am looking for a word to describe how I feel right now. Vindicated I'm not sure applies but maybe so.
See, heres a little background. When Veronica came back she told me she was in a relationship with a cop in Chihuahua but they broke up and she wanted to be with me, you all know the rest, blah blah blah (or yadda yadda yadda if you prefer).
When she dumped me she told me she was still in love with him and she told me the reason they broke up. You see he encouraged her to go to night school and finish her high schooling and then later she began "prepa". Great. She told me they broke up due to his prodding her to better herself. What a guy, I must buy him a beer one day. Do I really need a woman so short sighted and impatient?
So thats when she began looking for me again.
The best I could do to console myself this entire week was, "who needs a woman who leaves a man for such a little thing."? It was
the best I could come up with but it only helped this tender boy a little.
So I thought I'd go to Juarez to get more content for the website. Friday I fucked Minnie in her room for 27 bucks. (good sex by the way) Saturday I got a private dance at Faustos and took pics of a new chica. No sex. (good private dance by the way)
I want a woman just as much as the next guy. Each night I came home and went to sleep alone.
Tonight I rented a French movie "the House Keeper". I began to watch it, alone. Then my cell rings. Damn it, "whos calling me"?
It was Veronica. Hi how are you, fine, good, and some short blah blah blah. Very short blah blah blah.
She then hit me up for 200 American Bucks for her school and if I could send it tomarrow. Well I didn't tell her I got no money. I said I have it but what about the novio she left me for. "Ayyyyy, don't ask me", she says. Can I send it or not? Ha, yeah right.
I can assure you great bunch of guys that I will not be sending the money no matter if I have it or not.
What nerve. What nerve with no shame. I'm better off fucking Minnie and MariLu and some MP girl. These women are "meantime girls". I don't have a woman, but in the meantime...
Veronica, yo se que no andas por el internet, pero, vete a la verga. Yo no soy tu tonto pinche mora. Soy un ****** que vale. Ruinaste todo.
Guys, I am back in the saddle again. But I still need that proper word for what just happened and for the way I feel.
The Filthy (ridin' my horsy again) One
MUGROSO
Oh Filthy one,
Does 'pussmerized' work?
How 'bout 'ass-blinded'?
Maybe 'temporarily chicatized'?
About that 14 year old thing: US Law will call it a felony if you (a US citizen) cross International borders to willfully commit what would be a felony in the US.
Last thing I heard is that when the Mexican G is done with your "ped" time they'll hand you over.
And Mugroso - sorry to hear how it all worked out but glad to see the fickle finger of Fate aiming away from you now.
Welcome back.
Clydesdale asked: "Imagine this situation - you're sitting in a bar here in the U.S. You buy a lady a drink, and it turns out she is a minor who snuck into the bar. Do you get busted for buying liquor for a minor, or does the bar get busted?"
The short answer is both you and the bar.
The long answer notes, as politely as possible, that broad, generic hypothetical questions leave so many "What ifs?" that entire books can be written trying to cover all the bases. The first note would mention that liquor laws are a state regulated issue and "here in the U.S." would have more than fifty unique sets of statutes. The second note would mention whether the bar knew or had reason to know or to suspect that the drink you bought was going to the minor. For instance, you order a Coke for the lady and a Negra Modelo for yourself. At some point after the drinks come you move the bottle of beer to in front of the lady and the glass of Coke to in front of you. Now the bar has reason to know the lady is drinking alcohol. The third note would probably mention that the sign at the front door saying "No Minors" does not relieve you of the responsibility of knowing whether or not the lady, to whom you are supplying alcohol, is of legal age any more than that little sign relieves the bar. You probably had in mind that innocent situation where you, down at one end of the bar, tell the bartender you want to buy a drink for that freckle-faced redhead down at the other end, in hope that a meaningful dialogue would insue. During that dialogue you would probably buy more drinks in hope that a meaningful, if only for one night, relationship would insue. And since, in most states, the age of consent is even younger than the legal drinking age you would of course be okay. At what point are you, the adult, responsible for knowing the age of the "lady". You guessed it, right from the beginning and all the way through.
Having said all that, Yes, there are under-age girls with fake ID's trying to make a little money for food, or whatever, on both sides of the border. Some places are more conscientious than others in screening the ladies. Some fake ID's are better made than others. This applies to both sides of the border. The responsibility lies with the adult. And it is not something you can shed at the border.
Ragman
Ps to Cienga32's comment. "what would be a felony in the US." We need to look it up but I think that applies even if it is not a felony across the International border. The US law says 18 but in some countries the age of consent is 16. I think the US law makes it illegal for a US citizen to do what is legal where he/she is doing it but now you become a felon when you return home.
Because I have been travelling elsewhere, I have not been to Juarez in a while, so I don't really know what is going on with the two bars, Sleepy Iguana and Panama.
However, I have met the owner at Sleepy Iguana, Tim, and he seemed to me a stand up guy, based on the limited amount of time I spent in the place. The staff working for him apparently liked and respected their boss, unlike some of the other places in that neighborhood.
The facility there was a whole lot better than some of the others to which I have been, having clean rooms and beds. I lament the fact that I will have to endure the not-so-clean facilities in the future.
In addition, I feel sorry for the girls who worked there, especially those who had worked at Casa Colorada and left, because of the way the owner had treated them.
I guess I wanted to see whether this place, with its US model of doing business and treating the customer first, would succeed in Mexico, with perhaps the reason being is that I am used to this type of business everyday in the US. I guess the answer to that question is a resounding no.
I have been reading your reports for some time. I have a question. I won't go into a long story here as this is more for reports on the women, not really what I am after. Would any of you please mail or pm me a message if you can help or have info for me. I am planning on opening a bar in Mexico within the next year. I do know it will not be in any of the border towns. I still would like any comments or info you may have.
Thanks
Ragman - good answers to the questions, which were meant to be cautionary and thought provoking. The upshot of the whole thing is that the f***in' you got won't be worth the f****n' you'll get. The military has even drafted requlations, which are now in the comment period, to prohibit servicemembers from patronizing prostitutes overseas, even if it's legal where they are. The theory is that it will cut down on sex slavery.
Mugroso - I don't know if this is the right word, but the term 'screwing your brains out' comes to mind. I like audacity in a woman, but asking for $ was over the top. I feel your pain; I fall for women way too easily. Better that you found out now, though.
Fuzz Nuts II - Why do you want to do that? Being a patron is so much more fun.
Not only the military Clydesdale, but civilian contractorsalso.
Hello,
How about next time a get together is planned in CJ we get some MP girls and go to a regular Ladies bar away from the centro. We can drink some beers, play pool, dance and bs all we want. Next time I go to El Encanto and Venus I will get some girls numbers.
Any input on this?
Also how about a good Dentist in CJ? help me, a freakin bad tooth is killing me. Let me get drunk again so I can forget, forget what? I don't remember.
JD
Fellas,
So I called telemates and hooked up with a 37 year old. ( i am only 24.) I went over before going to work just to say hi. Well it led to a back massage which led to a BBBJCIM then doggy style. A few nights later she came by and we had sex some more. The last time was just a BBBJCIM with swallow and she left to go to work.
I also was talking to this girl. Pretty with a beautiful body. Planned to go to the movies and then back here for some fun. I was talking to her on the phone and turns out she is only 17 and a junior in high school. She was soo fine, but had to pass on that one.
On sunday there was a 24y/o from Juarez who comes over here once or twice a week looking for some "fun" the way she described er self was nice, but who knows. I m a little weary of hooking up with a girl over there from the posts I have read. Plus, I don't think alot of them are into black guys.
You can find some nice one on there if you are patient. Its only 18 bucks for a month to retrieve messages. Qwest is more expensive, and there are alot more women (mostly from Albequerque (and they are mostly just looking for the same thing you are). Well I hope this helps some of yall out there.
Well all this typing has made me a little "hungry". Maybe a trip to Caberet or maybe across the boarder... Maybe I'll check out Las Vegas again.
Mugruso's site has given me a little confidence in that place so I will go back and shhot for Diana #2 or Jocelynn.
gentlemen, gentlemen, gentlemen,
i am here to tell you the truth about what happened at the sleepy iguana, not the crap that i've read here. border jumper, i don't know who your unimpeachable source is, but if you believe anything that anyone in mexico says, you're a complete idiot.
how do i know the truth? i am tim, the owner of the sleepy iguana and i am the only one who knows what really happened.....so here it is, the unvarnished truth.
when i started the sleepy iguana, i needed a mexican to sign the lease and to be named on all the paperwork, that is where sheila came in. her name isn't really sheila (there's a big surprise since nobody actually uses there real name), her name is isidra rivas and her name was on all the paperwork. sheila has always been a liar and a thief, so i wasn't under any false impressions going in.
sheila had two responsibilities, the paperwork (because my spanish is limited) and hiring the girls. about 8 weeks after opening, she had done both jobs so poorly i let her go. the biggest problem we had in our first two months (as was quite accurately reported here) was the lack of girls. this was basically because sheila had a core group of girls that would kick back money to her. in a nutshell, here's how it worked. if a guy spent $80 on a girl, sheila would report that the guy only spent $50 and she and the girl would split the difference. i could tolerate that but what i couldn't tolerate were the lack of girls and the one's that we had i wouldn't have fucked if i were a customer. that's a problem for a *****house!
once sheila was let go, i started getting some decent girls in, none of which were 14! contrary to what border jumper wrote, sheila had no part in bringing any of these girls to the bar. these girls were referred by a source totally separate from sheila. the fact that they didn't have papers wasn't a big problem since most of the girls working in places like ours didn't have papers. unlike the u.s., many girls don't have proper id even though they are well over the working age. a contribution to the local enforcement agencies was all that was needed to eliminate this problem.
on saturday night, a local government agency closed our bar because we didn't have our liquor license posted.....not because there were ****d girls working there. our permit was sitting at carta blanca because the girl who handled licences for carta blanca left the company and nobody bothered to send the paperwork over to us.
on monday, we retrieved the paperwork from carta blanca and the government agency authorized us to reopen without a penalty. the reason we closed had nothing to do with that.
when i told sheila to leave, i contacted the landlord to tell him i needed to change the name on the lease. his lawyer came over on monday, september 20. at that time, i paid the rent that was due ($2,000) and he told me that there would be no problem changing the name on the lease. he said that the landlord wanted an additional $2,000 in security deposit since in the lease sheila had pledged her house. i said that was ridiculous since i had already put down $8,000 in security deposit and i instead offered to pledge all the equipment in the building as security in lieu of the $2,000. the lawyer said he would contact the landlord and that i should call him at 1 pm. when i called at 1 pm, the lawyer said that the landlord wanted an additional $20,000 in security deposit that day and if i didn't pay him, he would claim that i made changes to the building (untrue) without his written approval.
i made the immediate decision that i wasn't going to let some fat mexican landlord fuck me, so rather than throw good money after bad, i pulled everything out of the place. every table, chair, pen, coke, beer and bed disappeared that night. at 2 am, sheila showed up with the police and asked what i was doing. i told the police exactly what i was doing and they told me to take all the time that i needed. i made sure each policeman went home with a bottle of his choice. so all the furnishings and equipment are safely stowed away. at about 11 am the next morning, the landlord walked in and, according to a friend of mine who was there, said in total disbelief, "he's gone?". that's right you fat fuck, i don't let anyone extort money from me!
so that's the story albeit an incomplete one at this time. remember when i said that sheila's name was on everything, not mine? guess who is responsible for paying the $850 electric bill and the $150 water bill and the $50 gas bill and the $300 in payroll and the $600 for the liquor license, all bills that came due within 3 days after i left? wonder where sheila will get the money for that. guess who is responsible for paying taxes to the mexican irs for july, august and september? wonder where sheila will get the money for that. and guess who is going to make sure that the irs gets all the reports showing the sales fromn both the bar and the rooms next door? yes, i feel a need to do my civic duty.
as for the question, can an american type bar operate successfully? i think the answer is yes. there were many pieces of the puzzle that i hadn't yet put into place, but they were coming. ironically, our website was active the saturday before we closed and for the next two weeks we were averaging 100 hits per day. that combined with the ads being run in the el paso times and the utep paper would have been a nice synergy. our target demographic was totally different from that of san souci, panama and pink lady, a fact that none of those idiots ever really grasped.
the fun for me was in the creation of the place, not the day in day out running of it. to be quite honest, with a nice home in dallas, juarez really didn't have that much long term appeal to me. maybe that was why i was so quick to tell the landlord to shove it....either that or the irish in me wouldn't tolerate being extorted.
the lesson in all this is that mexicans are greedy pigs who can't see a day into the future. the landlord had an empty building for 7 years. he filled it with a tenant who was building a nice business and who paid him like clockwork. now, he's got an empty building again. smart move! sheila who would have earned a salary plus 10% of the profits now has so much debt hanging over her head she will likely lose her house and maybe even end up in jail. me, i'm a little poorer, a whole lot wiser and planning for my new venture.
so that's the real story! my thanks to many of you who patronized my bar, i am very grateful. i would also like to thank all of you who posted notes on the sleepy iguana in this space. i think that they were very accurate in the areas that they critiqued and on a whole very generous with their praise. i thank you. i am sorry for all the people that lost there jobs because of the greed of a few people, that is the real shame.
those of you that would like to contact me directly can do so by e mailing me at timbo628@yahoo.com. i'll be happy to answer any questions that you may have. if you get a chance, check out the website at www.sleepyiguana.com and give me your feedback. the site still needs a little work but your comments would still be appreciated.
hasta la vista baby!
tim
Thanks for the update Tim and I assure you buddy, I am far from an idot. You might want to refphrase that part of your post. The source is a member of the Poilicia Municipal and apparently, that is the rumor that is making the rounds in the zona. Heard it from several people but the one person who I was visiting has never once fed me a line. Take it for what it's worth and do a little damage control.
IT finally sounds as if Sheila or whatever she chooses to call herself is in some deep shit. COngrats to you for having the forsight to set things up that way. You have no idea the number of people she given a fucking to over the years down there. You can be sure she probably will lose her home or at the least, lose all utilities to it until she pays the bills. She still lives caddy conrer from Club Laura's doesn't she.
Tim, you made my day with your post guy despite your unfortunate choice of words. I've seen your website and it is well laid out just like your club was. I stuck my head in there a couple of times but didn't see anything that piqued my interest woman-wise.
You are also correct about the idiots down there and their economic plan. They can't seem to grasp the idea that a steady income over time beats a one time windfall.
Take care man!
Timbo1 - going by the details of your post:
CHECK and MATE! Well done.
Hey,
Can I have the website to the Sleepy Iguana? I hate that I didn't get to experience that place. I stopped in twice, but there was only 2 women. both times. It was in the early part of the day. Hey, if you find a new place to open up down there You got lots of customers.
Good luck!
Hey guys,
What kind of weapon should one carry in Juarez?
Don't want to get thrown in Mexican prision for a gun?
Anything else that would be a good defender for this rough town?
Also what time does the border crossing close or is it open 24/7 like the TJ/Cali one?
timbo1
bummer to hear there will be no more sleepy iguana. but i am glad you stood your ground with them assholes. some "mex-o-philes" may take offense to your comments about how short sighted mexicans are but its true. from working girls who probably make more than me never have any money, bar owners who raise prices when the peso strengthens a weakens and an entire society with such a wide gap between rich and poor. (although the middle class is growing) veronica hit me up for 200 bucks a week after she dumped me. i would have sent it if we were together.
oh well, i guess a link exchange between our websites would be useless at this point.
bolongo
i am glad to see you enjoy the website. but tell me what this telemates is. can you passover the number? give the bordercrossing chica a try. to me, that would be a dream come true.
clydesdale, ragman and anyone else who commented about ****.
if you have doubts, don't go for it. trust your gut. even if there were no consequenses, it is just wrong. but i am sure everyone here is an upstanding moral american.
borderjumper
i kinda figured something goofy happened. the clock explanation made me laugh because i have had the same problems with chicas.
you see, up until a few years ago when we turned our clocks back an hour juarez stayed the same. so i'd show up on occassion and hour late for a date and then slam my forehead. but now we are in synch so no more missed dates.
i already rtff but i can't find who made the claim of having a matchmaking liscence. could this person email me please.
the filthy one
The number to telemates is 915-541-8900
Qwest is 915-225-5555
Happy hunting.
Oh, I am trying to get with the Chica, but I don't think she is interested. she isn't replying to my message and I hear her on again today. We will see though.
So when is the next mongerpolloza? I am hoping you all say next Thursday or Friday. I may have to take Mugruso up on the MP tour.
Funny someone as smart as that bar owner can come here and still want us to belive he figured it all out when he got fucked out of thousands of dollars. Maybe with a great web site in place next time it will work...
Funny how he denigrates all things Mexican because of his experiences amongst the dregs of humanity to be found in el centro of Juarez.
Come on back, gringo, and let them fuck you again, just like the snakes fuck you in Dallas, Texas where you came from when you move into their territory.
Just don't smear your experiences all over the great people of Mexico. Bed down with snakes, and you get bitten, anywhere, which was the only possible outcome of your venture.
You're not an authority because you had the dough to open a bar. BorderJumper's facts may be incomplete, but it won't matter what the facts are. They will change every time but never change in that you get fucked in the end when you go into the sex trade in Latin America. It's kind of a local preserve.
Your account shows that you were in so far above your head you will never even *know the truth* of what happened to you.
And you owned the bar...:)
Or did you?
However it sounds, this is not a hostile post. We all have to learn about life south of the border. All accounts were that you were a straight shootin' guy who wanted to give the best to the clients. I admire your juevos for trying.
Just don't kid yourself into thinking you are going to move into the sex trade and "show 'em" how it's done. You're just the most recent of a long little steam of ants who got burnt by the big magnifying glass of things you knew nothing about and will never be able to control.
Sounds to me like he learned the hard way about El Centro. Remember, a tiger is a tiger, it can be beautiful, fun-loving, and you can think its completely docile with *YOU*....but just when you think that, chomp, it eats you. Just ask Roy in Las Vegas.
I dont think all Mexican's are short-sighted, but of course the ones in El Centro are. At least you did something cool while you were there, all I did was naively blow my money thinking several street girls wanted to be "saved".
But in the end, both of us are just arrogant f*ing Americans for thinking we can go down there and change anything. Why should they? What makes us any better...and for that matter, if we were so high-and-mighty, what the hell we doing in El Centro?
And to think, I fell for all that bullshit from several girls about Chito and keeping girls locked up, only thing locking them up was their addiction......
Well, back to lurking.....
>What kind of weapon should one carry in Juarez?
A brain.
Like Denzel Washington said in the movie Ricochet, The only weapon you should carry over there is one that is useless unless your a pretty girl. (And in some cases not so pretty girls).
Hey jdindc9,
[b][quote]First story, decided to do some short stories, as I would get off my butt and actually have some stuff completed.[/quote][/b]
What ever happened with the other stories you were going to post here about El Centro? Your first one was excellent. I've been waiting since July of last year for the next one.
[quote]What ever happened with the other stories you were going to post here about El Centro? Your first one was excellent. I've been waiting since July of last year for the next one.[/quote]
After many edits, I changed the story alot to be less pretentious and less "stupid".
Besides, this isnt the proper forum for that, this isnt a writer's workshop.
Its interesting how many times I was aproached by assorted nefarious characters to open a bar and "do it right". I even had the idea to do a web-site/tourism site where guys would arrange to meet particular women (yah, right try getting an El Centro girl to actually show up at a particular time and place), until I heard all about the guy out of the Panama that got ran out of town a couple years ago.
Gotta admire the guy that tried to open the bar for actually trying though. Life is about experiences, not prime-time television. Bravo for him, I could think of worse ways of blowing his money.
Dont miss the women there, but, damn I miss the steak houses in Juarez.
Enjoy keeping up on the posts, though.
Tim,
You know it sounds like everybody knows what to do after it is all over. All I know is my respect to you and everyone that worked with and for you. was there once and it seemed real confortable sorry I can't go back. cool web site too.
Thanks TT
Uodate on my post regarding the demise of the Sleepy Iguana.
First, let me apologize to Border Jumper for my poor choice of words. When I wrote that he was an idiot I meant that tongue-in-cheek, kind of like when you call your best friend a dumb fuck, a backass term of endearment. When I wrote that, I had second thoughts about it but hoped that he wouldn't take offense. I was the idiot for leaving it in. My apologies publicly because I have also made them privately.
Second, thanks to all of you for your many kind words. I really appreciate your thoughts and your sentiments.
Finally, to Dreaming Eagle. Join the real world! All that crap about the sex trade in Latin America is pure bullshit. My problem was a greedy landlord not all the other bullshit that goes with being in the Zona. That crap you just have to ignore. Nor did I have any problems with the police. In fact, I found the police to be very supportive of the Sleepy Iguana and myself in particular. Nor was there any great plan on the part of the landlord to get me out. He was more surprised than anyone when I refused to pay him another $20,000 in security deposit. He immediately contacted another club owner to try to lease the space to him. Not the actions of someone who had a predetermined plan.
As for my castigating Mexicans in general, I will say this. This is a third world country. It is that way because there are two classes, the wealthy and the poor. The wealthy are greedy pigs who do nothing to improve their country and do everything to insure that the poor stay poor. I will also tell you that I have dated a wonderful Mexican woman for 8 months and I intend on marrying her. She is loving, caring and everything you can ask for of a woman. I have many friends who are Mexican. I judge people individually on their merits and my biggest fault is that I always tend to believe the best of everyone I meet. Needless to say, I am often disappointed, but I prefer that to being cynical and untrusting.
Tim
Does anyone know anything about a MP located in the San Lorenzo area named "Consuelos"? Like, how are the ladies and prices, etc.?
Thanks
My Freedom
Thats right, MariLu is at Virginias now. So now along with good sex you will also get crabs. The rooms used by Virginias are filthy and they are shared with the street girls who hang out by the doorway. I haven't screwed there in years. I was lucky that I didn't have to go to Wal Mart to buy some lice soap.
I hate when this happens. I see a cutie Thursday night at of all places the Centro Lagunero which I fondly call "fatty central". We went to the rooms which are now located at Las Palmeras.
We get going good, I really needed to get the cum out. I hadn't had any since I banged Minnie the week before. She claimed she hadn't had any in a while and she acted like it but come on guys, we know better.
We got done and what gets all over my hand when I take the rubber off? Blood. Gross. Where is soap and boiling hot water when you need it. It just wasn't my day. But I will be back in about 7 days to make sure she got all the funk out.
The Filthy (bloody) One
[b]Mongerpolloza[/b]
Who wants to join in with Mugroso and Scoup on the 16th of this month?
Scoup
I don't like the trade off there as was posted.Good sex vs crabs?... What is up with MariLu now? This is sounding like a slippery slope no-one wants her to be on.
"Finally, to Dreaming Eagle. Join the real world! All that crap about the sex trade in Latin America is pure bullshit."
The real world is that you are never going to be permitted to survive in the sex trade in Latin America as the owner of an establishment. The circumstances will always be different, but the outcome the same.
Regarding Consuelo's. It's closed, another case of an American who thought he could operate a sex business in Juarez.
You guys can just watch when an American opens a sex place in Juarez. Add 6 months to the time they open, and they will be closed down, for some kooky, kinko reason or another.
End of argument. I will stand by the results, which never vary. When you can show me a foreign owner who makes it past the six month mark, I'll reconsider.
I'm not too worried about losing this argument.
DE
There is one semi successful story where Americans are engaged in the sex trade in Mexico. It is the one of the trucker van services. Of course they are sluts to the *****houses like the Casa and Panama Clubs. They seem to be getting by.
As for my website, I promote the bars and variety that can be had down there. I try to provide enough info for the unexperienced person to venture down there. Of course I maybe lying to myself about that. I try to keep a low profile while "working" down there. But if anyone comes after me for their "cut" into my website they will be in for a surprise.
That building that housed the Sleepy used to be the Posado Indio. 3 times in a row it was owned by Americans and 3 times they passed away for one illness or another. Weird story there. But whether it be a wider conspiracy or just an asshole landlord the deck is stacked against the Americans.
Even non sex related small business's have a rough go at it. And I'm sure Wal Mart and Home Depot had their share of bumps in Mexico.
Well thats just my 2 pesos
Mug
Wal Mart and Home Depot are large multi-national corporations, they can afford expensive legal and political help, I don't imagine they had too much trouble with local official bribes and that sort of thing.
Guys,
This may be short notice to many here but who is up for a "mini-palozza" Halloween weekend? Maybe we could call it a "weenie-palozza". Any takers?
I propose we meet at the park on the U.S. side from 7-7:15 pm, Saturday, 30 October. Walk over pick up anyone who may wish to wait at the Plaza Mariachi and start the festivities at 7:30pm.
We can either go to the more popular clubs or I will give a tour starting way at the bottom at Las Palmeras and work our way up.
This event will of course be apart from my website. This is just for us guys. If I ask anyone for money, please kick me in the balls.
Let me know guys, I will be there either way. Juarez on Halloween eve has always been a trip. On occassion the waiters from the bars get together and carry a coffin around the neighboorhood. It will be a great time.
Mugroso
At this point Mug, count me in on Halloween weekend. I'll clear a space on the calendar and start making arrangements.
Funny you should mention the shuttle services as that is what came to mind as I opened this thread today. They are
w h o r e s to the bar owners. For instance, Papa Smurf owns nothing but the name and those ragged out vans of his. Ricardo Moro holds the lease on the building, owns the CB radio they advertise on, the Business radios they communicate with and their Nextel phones. They stay in business at his pleasure.
BorderJumper
There used to be a website called www.borderjumper2000.com. It no longer exists. From what I understood it belonged to papa smurf. I almost thought about registering it but what for? I would just wind up competing with myself. I think its bull that these services limit where the truckers can go, but then again if ricardo owns it. I wonder how much those gringos get paid.
I'd like to buy a van and cart people to the MPs but that isn't very low profile. Of course I could call my clients amigos. Nah, too much logistics.
As of this posting I have Scoup and BJ on my mental list for the weenie-palooza. Any one else?
Mugroso
Any one ever have a TLN from any women at the MP's if so how did you go about it? Or any suggestions on how to attain that? I want to go there but just dont want to f*** a amp girl I want TLN.
Count me in for 10/30.
I am in.
A Halloween Mongerpalooza would work. Where is the Plaza Mariachi??
Also Mugroso;
Where is the park on the U.S. side you refer to? I can't place one in my mind. I'll probably be renting a car anyhow as I like to be mobile over there.
Where is the park on the U.S. side
The little cement park just before the toll booth to cross into Mexico.
Also, the Plaza Mariachi is just a few blocks into Mexico on the right hand side. You can't miss it, there is a statue of 2 boys washing a horse.
Mug
And is this the Sante Fe bridge?
Mugroso - are you talking about that little "sitting area" on the US side of the Santa Fe bridge?
I don't think I'll be making this one. I would like to as I would love to see the place then. Don't they have a Day of The Dead celebration that weekend?
Anyway - I have a Giants game in Phoenix on 11-14 (I'm planning to head for J after the game), need to knock out a timing belt change before that, and don't think I could hang that long. Tho' a 2 weeker doesn't sound too bad at this point!
Should we be wearing little stick-on nametags with our mongering pseudonyms? "Hello, I'm Whoratio". :-D Or will we stand out like a collection of sore thumbs?
Is Juarez on the same time as EP right now, or is there a time difference? Daylight Savings Time ends on the 31st.
Speaking of the Day of the Dead, it is November 2nd. Does anyone know if it is business as usual in the MPs on the 1st and 2nd of November, both of which are national holidays in Mexico? Doesn't really matter at this point, I already have my plane tickets and will be there regardless.
Hi everyone,
I'm heading to Juarez this weekend and was wondering about the lineup at Marilyns. Since here hasn't been any new reports on Marilyns in a while I was wondering if anyone can recommend a girl. Its been what feels like months since I went down there and we all know how quickly the lineup changes. So any shared info well be appreciated, thanks
K
Hi everyone,
I'm heading to Juarez this weekend and was wondering about the lineup at Marilyns. Since here hasn't been any new reports on Marilyns in a while I was wondering if anyone can recommend a girl. Its been what feels like months since I went down there and we all know how quickly the lineup changes. So any shared info well be appreciated, thanks
K
Hardly a park...I couldn't picture that either..but now I know. I have an illness in the family that will take me out of town so I cannot make it....but enjoy one and all.
Whoratio
That is a good question. I guess if anyone standing around looks like they are waiting for someone they must be from here. But how will we know for sure?
I will give a description of myself and what I will be wearing a day or 2 before the event. Name tags are a great idea but, really, do we want that. I have met a couple of guys here so we will start off in a group of 3 and wait for others. Also we could exchange cell phone numbers (in private of course).
I know the "park" isn't much of a park but it is the last spot in the U.S. before the toll booths. And yes, it is located at the bottom of Santa Fe street. Plenty of parking, so no worries.
Mug
Kimbrough,
I had a mexican freind take me to Marylyns last week for the first time at around 2:00 pm and selection was absolutely raunchy those girls would of had to pay me. From the second we stepped in there I was trying to come up with a way of tactfully leaving, luckily my friend pushed a button on his cell phone that made it ring and gave us an excuse to bolt out of there. Maybe I just hit them on a bad day but it will be a while until I return. Luckily Venus on lincoln ave. saved the day with the 3 to 4 absolutely stunning girls. They ask for $40 and my friend taught me if you tell them up front you will give them a $10 tip if you leave satisfied that they will take care of you head to foot. Incidentally I returned to Venus for the evening shift a couple days later and none of the dolls from my previous visit were there.
For what it's worth about the parking by that "sitting area" - the lot right there on the other side of the fence is where I usually park and I've only had 1 very small problem but I parked to close to the booth knowing that I shouldn't.
I remember sometime ago a fellow monger mentioning that Claudia at Cleopatra's was gone? Does this still hold true? She was quite the oral talent and loved to ride!
Cienega32
I recall Clauida was mentioned in their ad in the Diario. Now the featured girl is Daniella if I recall correctly. I really have to give at least one girl a whirl at Cleo's. The second to the last time I was there I saw some pretty cute girls. Not great but cute.
Mug
To Whoratio and anyone else wondering, El Paso and Cd. Juarez are on the same time all year long. So on the 31st Juarez will make the time change as El Paso does. Further south in Mexico, however, most of the country is one hour ahead of the El Paso-Juarez area.
The MPs should be open for business as usual on November 1st and 2nd. The two "holiday" times that are really considered the most sacred in Mexico are Christmas, December 24th and 25th, and Mother's Day, May 10th-same date every year in Mexico, you will find is almost as sacred as Christmas. I can remember searching for a female companion on Mother's Day in the past and absolutely no ladies working inside the bars and no SWs.
My Freedom
Mugroso,
What is your Website? I am new in Las Cruces and would like to check things out in Juarez.
Thanks
After reading a negative report about Marilyn's here a few days ago, I decided to check things out and take one for the team, if necessary. This afternoon's selections included Betty, who is extremely pleasant and has the plus of a bit of English; and Alondra, that tall, dark, thin beauty who is hotter than a firecracker. Both of these ladies know the meaning of service.
The latest addition to the menu is Lorena, a bit younger and with an exceptionally pretty face. She looked good enough to eat, so I did. A few tongue flicks was all it took to get her off, 3 times no less. Us guys should be so lucky! DFK, BBBJ and several positions to the finish. Total eye contact. This lady was into her work.
Everybody has different tastes, but I'm not ready to cross Marilyn's off of my list just yet.
Ya'll keep in mind too national elections on Nov. 14. No liquor sold!
I too think I shall try to make this Halloween Mongerpalooza. Assuming I can still get cheap tickets.
Good deal Dougie. I'm looking forward to it. Hopefully DE can join in. How about it buddy?
i like the newer messages first. but oh well, you know what they say, "if you don't like it, start your own website.
its not so bad i suppose. this is still the best monger forum i have found so far.
i went back friday night and had a romp with viviana again. this time we didn't have to go to the rooms at las palmeras. the rooms about centro lagunero seem to be open for business. and they have been doing renovations. the rooms are almost as nice as the sleepy iguana. funny thing though, each room has a window to the hallway. no curtains so anybody can peek in. even funnier is the man who takes care of the rooms (a man nana) is a midget and the windows are to hight for him to peek.
when i did viviana i left the lights on. what the hell, i felt daring.
the filthy (exhibitionist) one
Mugroso - go to
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And you mean to tell me that the Las Palmeros rooms are NOT the best in town? :eek:
I am finally back in Juarez after a month absence. I went to Venus II recently, which is on Hermanos Escobar and had a session with Gabby. I think she is the only worker at Venus who gives BJ as part of her standard MO, unlike some of the other chicks who work there, requiring a tip for that. She told me that both Venus and Venus II are owned by the same owner.
I also went to Marylin. Sergio told me that he has recently open a bar on Lopez Mateos and north of Ejercitio Nacional and invited me to go there. I had a session with Alondra. She pretty much remember everything we said prior to me going to Hawaii. I cannot believe the memories of these chicks, they are like elephants`.
Anyway she asked me whether I brought my girlfriend along during the trip. This question has been asked by so many Latin women but I still find it fascinating--one´s love life is a curiosity to them. Theirs are the only cultural group that ask this question so frequently.
Anyway I am on my way to go to Marisol and am typing this at an internet place at the Soriano shopping center on the corner of Lopez Mateos and south of Oscar Flores. The price is $20 pesos an hour.
[QUOTE=Sun Devil]
Anyway I am on my way to go to Marisol and am typing this at an internet place at the Soriano shopping center on the corner of Lopez Mateos and south of Oscar Flores. The price is $20 pesos an hour.[/QUOTE]
I have had so many chicas complain that internet access is expensive but yet they buy fischas for those rip off cell phones. But I love them all anyway.
Mug
How do I get from the airport in ELP to juarez? Any suggestions?
She hasn't been there the last four times I've gone over the last couple of months. I've asked about her, and the girls seem to indicate she's gone--but of course I don't really understand them.
Too bad. . .so hot. . .
So the last four times I've seen Marlena. She's great, but I'm ready for something new & more native-looking, like Claudia.
[QUOTE=Boeing1048]How do I get from the airport in ELP to juarez? Any suggestions?[/QUOTE]
How fortuitous for you to post this question. Sun Metro now has all their bus routes online in .pdf form for you to download and print. Their website is [url]http://www.elpasotexas.gov/sunmetro/[/url] .
What you do is take the #33 from the airport to the Five Points Terminal and then take the #31 Shuttle from Five Points to downtown. From there it is a short walk to the Santa Fe bridge which connects downtown EP to downtown Juarez. The Zona is right there on your right as you cross the bridge.
The #33 only runs once an hour, the #50 runs every 25 minutes. But the #33 goes right to the airport terminal, to catch the #50 you must walk down several blocks to Montana and wait for the #50. The #50 also goes to Five Points. The #31 Five Points Shuttle runs every 10 minutes. DL the routes and times and plan your trip accordingly. And don't forget to ask the bus driver for a transfer when you board the #33/#50 so you won't have to pay full fare again at Five Points. Total fare is $1.10, beats the shit out of a taxi. Repeat in reverse to get back to the airport.
[QUOTE=Sun Devil]
Anyway I am on my way to go to Marisol and am typing this at an internet place at the Soriano shopping center on the corner of Lopez Mateos and south of Oscar Flores. The price is $20 pesos an hour.[/QUOTE]
Where is Marisol?
Marisol was a disappointment. Two of the girls I generally see over there, Melissa and Michelle, have quit since the last time I was there. Instead, there were three heifers at the place. The turnaround time of girls in this line of work is fairly quick.
Just out of curiosity, does anyone out there know where most of the girls at the Sleepy Iguana are working, now that the place is closed?
What I do is hire a cab at the taxi stand in front of the airport and tell them to take me to the Stanton bridge crossing. I pay them $20, but it is very convenient and all I have to do is walk across to get to Mexico.
Right across the border are cabs and busses that will take you to your hotel.
I used to take Sun Metro busses from the airport to Juarez but the wait was such an inconvenience. If you really want to save money, although a little bit illegal, is to call the El Casa Real Hotel shuttle and say that you want to get to their place from the airport. Their phone is right next to the luggage pick up place in the airport.
Again, one has to wait in front of the airport for their shuttle to pick you up. This waiting area is in front of all the taxis waiting in line to pick up customers. The wait is probably 10 to 15 minutes. The shuttle will pick their customer up and take them to the hotel, which is downtown on El Paso Street, near the Greyhound station. The shuttle is courtesy of the hotel and is free, unless you want to tip the driver.
From there, comes the illegal part of this whole thing. You can go in the hotel and ask for how much the nightly cost of a stay and pretend that it is too much and leave (the nightly cost is about $90) to go to the border, or just start walking away from the shuttle bus to the border on El Paso Street. The border is about 5 to 10 minutes away.
A little high handed mind you and thus something I gave up in doing. I used to justify this endeavor by tipping the shuttle driver generously but decided that ethically it was not good and thus have been using taxis ever since. However, the $40 round trip fare that I pay the cab drivers to and from the airport give me convenience time wise and I save that up by taking the $0.40 busses in Juarez instead of taking the usual $5 cab rides.
[QUOTE=Whoratio]Where is Marisol?[/QUOTE]
Marisol is on corner of Plutarco Calles and Ejercito Nacional. To get there from the border take the 8-A bus all the way to Ejercito Nacional. Wait on Ejercito Nacional for the Orientes Ponientes bus, which is the yellow bus, going south.
Get off the next light, which is the corner of Plutarco Calles and Ejercito Nacional. Marisol is on that street corner next to the convenience store.
Thanks for all your help fellow mongers.
Anyone wearing a costume to the Halloween palooza? :eek:
[QUOTE=Clydesdale]Anyone wearing a costume to the Halloween palooza? :eek:[/QUOTE]
I will be going as a horny monger with a big boner and money to burn. Anyone else? It would be great if someone else dressed as a sleazy puta, titty dancer. Ok, not that great.
For those who will be attending, how do you all feel about a raffle? Depending on how many show up we pitch in a certain amount for the winner to have himself a woman of his choice. I will count myself out since I only think it is appropriate. What do you guys think?
Mug
[QUOTE=Sun Devil]I used to take Sun Metro busses from the airport to Juarez but the wait was such an inconvenience. If you really want to save money, although a little bit illegal, is to call the El Casa Real Hotel shuttle and say that you want to get to their place from the airport. Their phone is right next to the luggage pick up place in the airport.
[/QUOTE]
That's low, Sun Devil. But I suspect it happens with some degree of regularity, perhaps increasing degree of regularity now that we all know where that magic phone is. :-D
I agree that the wait can be insufferable, especially if you miss the bus by 5 minutes and know it is going to be another hour before another one comes along. But my fall-back plan is to hoof it down to Montana and wait for another bus. Montana is a main drag and the busses run more frequently than the one to the airport. As with most cities, the public transportation is used mainly by folks who cannot afford a car and NEED to get where they are going, so the wait is not optional for them. They really could learn some lessons from their south of the border counterpart with regards to making the bus system more usable.
But there is an upside to riding on Sun Metro. Lots of hot young Latinas ride the bus and I am always horny as hell before I even get to the border. I will sometimes even stop at an MP before making it to the hotel and spend that $20 I saved by riding the bus rather than taking the taxi.
[QUOTE=Clydesdale]Anyone wearing a costume to the Halloween palooza? [/QUOTE]
I'm going as a bald, horny gringo.
SOunds like a deal Mug....
I want to confirm now that this is for Saturday the 30th, Correct? Halloween is sunday but I doubt if there will be much celebrating in the Zona on that day.
Looking forward to this one!
how true is this....kind of doubt it since im pretty sure if this option was available some of you vets would be posting this stuff on the boards
my friend told there are (now i dont know if they are masajeras) phone numbers you call to order for service to your domicile.....i heard of this in juarez but he told me that some of the girls would make the trip to a us address. he told me they charge around 500 pesos. he heard this from truck drivers and other peeps...why im a posting and asking here...because of course he doesnt have the number (s) to call....
anyone out there know of this method...sure will save a trip to j-town
We should all meet at the toll booths on the U.S. side between 7-7:15 pm, Saturday, 30 October. Walk over pick up anyone who may wish to wait at the Plaza Mariachi and start the festivities at 7:30pm.
We can either go to the more popular clubs or I will give a tour starting way at the bottom at Las Palmeras and work our way up.
This is just for us guys here one the WSG. So far 6 have RSVP'd and I have met 2 of you guys. So if those attending want to raffle a chica then we all pitch in 10 bucks for a total of 60. If the chica costs more, then the winner should foot the balance.
We still lack an idea on how to find one another. Any ideas? The best I can come up with is I will describe what I am going to wear but hey, I'm a man, can I really follow through?
Let me know guys, I will be there either way.
Hey Mugroso, aren't you going to make up a big sign that says 'MongerPalooza starts here!'?
Guys...I probably will meet everyone at Plaza Mariachi. My thing is the MP's and I intend to do several during the day if everything works out alright and I can borrow a car in El Paso. Too damn cheap to rent.
I would suggest that all that plan on attending PM Mug &/or myself with cell numbers if possibel so we can coordinate.
Is that parking lot by the Santa Fe bridge still there and have any of of you seen any big trucks over there. I'm short a dirver so I think I'll make a little money to make up for what I spend.
Personally, I'm intimately familiar with Sans Souci, Panama and the mainstream clubs. I'm interested in checking out the out of the way clubs where the action mught be cheaper.
First went to Cleopatra's.
Only hottie there was Marlena, but I've already seen her four times--want something fresh.
So one of the cabbies talked me into taking me anyplace for $10 total.
Ended up at Venus.
The girls there want fucking $60??!!
When I saw the owner before he said it was only 400 pesos.
RIP-OFF!!!
What is going on there guys?
Chose a gorgeous 19 yo, Christina.
She talks like an American.
But she's kind-of cold, plus kind-of bossy, kind-of equals no tip for Christina.
But it's okay, just feeling up a young hottie like her does it for me.
[QUOTE=Whoratio]Here is a website no international monger should be without:
[
More specifically for this forum:
Use with appropriate caution.[/QUOTE]
THANK YOU FOR THE COMPUTER VIRUS FROM THIS SITE .
[QUOTE=Whoratio]Here is a website no international monger should be without:
ttp://www.insultmonger.co
More specifically for this forum:
ttp://www.insultmonger.com/swearing/mexican_spanish.ht
Use with appropriate caution.[/QUOTE]
I hope none of the chicas have that many viruses!
[QUOTE=RearWindow]THANK YOU FOR THE COMPUTER VIRUS FROM THIS SITE [/QUOTE]
Thank you for THREE friggin viruses that took up 45 minutes of my life to correct. Keep the links to yourselves, please.
[quote=red drum]how true is this....kind of doubt it since im pretty sure if this option was available some of you vets would be posting this stuff on the boards
my friend told there are (now i dont know if they are masajeras) phone numbers you call to order for service to your domicile.....i heard of this in juarez but he told me that some of the girls would make the trip to a us address. he told me they charge around 500 pesos. he heard this from truck drivers and other peeps...why im a posting and asking here...because of course he doesnt have the number (s) to call....
anyone out there know of this method...sure will save a trip to j-town[/quote]
i doubt if you'll find any willing or able to come to el paso for 500 peso. all the outcall masjistas advertise in the classifieds of the local juarez paper. i've heard they run around $100 for an hour or so at your location. be careful!
[QUOTE=RearWindow]Thank you for THREE friggin viruses that took up 45 minutes of my life to correct. Keep the links to yourselves, please.[/QUOTE]
Soembody ought to report this ass clown to Jackson. Thank god I use an EMAC. Virus proof!
[QUOTE=Coyote79]
So one of the cabbies talked me into taking me anyplace for $10 total.
Ended up at Venus.
The girls there want fucking $60??!!
When I saw the owner before he said it was only 400 pesos.
RIP-OFF!!!
What is going on there guys?
[/QUOTE]
What's going on there Coyote, and you answered your own question, is you took a cab to the place. The additional $20 was kicked back to the cabbie as his commission. You don't really think these guys are taking you to these places out of the goodness of their hearts do you?
Read this forum, take notes and next time you are in Juarez and must take a taxi, have them drop you off a few blocks from your destination. Then walk. When finished, most of the MP owners will be glad to call you a cab. Save the propina!
[QUOTE=BorderJumper]Soembody ought to report this ass clown to Jackson. Thank god I use an EMAC. Virus proof![/QUOTE]
Spare me the hot air, oh ye of infinite wisdom because you have more posts than I do. After seeing that SOME of you got a virus from the site I tried to delete the message but was unable to do so. I was also unable to report my own messages using the "report post" option so I emailed the forum requesting they delete or edit the offending message.
Clydesdale, RearWindow, you say you got a virus from the site and then you quote the HTML link in your reply. Real frigging smart there you two. If you are able to do so let me suggest you go back and delete YOUR messages which contain links to infected sites.
BTW, my Symantec AV did not detect any viruses and I scanned my machine and did not find any. You guys must have gotten "lucky". Even so, I apologize to anyone out there who got a virus from SOMEONE ELSES site, at least to everyone who hasn't been pricks about it.
[QUOTE=BorderJumper]What's going on there Coyote, and you answered your own question, is you took a cab to the place. The additional $20 was kicked back to the cabbie as his commission. You don't really think these guys are taking you to these places out of the goodness of their hearts do you?
Read this forum, take notes and next time you are in Juarez and must take a taxi, have them drop you off a few blocks from your destination. Then walk. When finished, most of the MP owners will be glad to call you a cab. Save the propina![/QUOTE]
Thanks BJ I'll do that.
A related question.
Some MPs say they'll pick you up if you call them at the bridge.
Do the public phones in Juarez accept US coins or calling cards?
I rather not take my cell phone.
You might, and I stress, might, find one or two telephones close to the bridge that will take U.S. coins. Seems as if I've seen them. I know we have a few here in NL. Mexican pay phones though take a LADATEL/TELMEX smart card which you can buy at almost any farmacia or money changer starting at $50.00mn and up. Insert the card into the slot on the phone, wait for the phone to recognize the card and then dial your number. There is an LCD display on these phones to tell you what's happening.
As far the MP's coming to pick you up, that is a new one to me.
I know Serena will pick you up if you call. I just call while I am walking across on my cell phone or if I am making an extended trip, I call before I start walking and put it back in the car and meet them there. It works for me so far.
[QUOTE=Bolongo]I know Serena will pick you up if you call. I just call while I am walking across on my cell phone or if I am making an extended trip, I call before I start walking and put it back in the car and meet them there. It works for me so far.[/QUOTE]
Luxxor will pick you up also.
[QUOTE=Coyote79]
Chose a gorgeous 19 yo, Christina.
She talks like an American.
But she's kind-of cold, plus kind-of bossy, kind-of equals no tip for Christina.
But it's okay, just feeling up a young hottie like her does it for me.[/QUOTE]
Did she happen to mention a certain website which she happens to be the only MP girl currently in the collection?
Mug
[QUOTE=Whoratio]Clydesdale, RearWindow, you say you got a virus from the site and then you quote the HTML link in your reply. Real frigging smart there you two. If you are able to do so let me suggest you go back and delete YOUR messages which contain links to infected sites.
BTW, my Symantec AV did not detect any viruses and I scanned my machine and did not find any. You guys must have gotten "lucky". Even so, I apologize to anyone out there who got a virus from SOMEONE ELSES site, at least to everyone who hasn't been pricks about it.[/QUOTE]
Actually, technically it wasn't a virus, just malicious code, as stated in my title. The chica virus thing was just to add a little humor. If you clicked on the box disguising itself as an ActiveX control, you downloaded and installed software that steals a lot of system resources and causes numerous system conflicts. It slipped by Norton AV, SpyBot search and destroy, and my firewall. AV software won't find it. SpyBot probably would have caught it in the next scan, but I didn't have to wait because my firewall immediately started flagging it trying to send info off my computer. I wasn't attacking, just warning.
Now on to the important stuff - the Halloweeniepalooza. I sent a few of you my #; anyone else needs it - pm me. It will be fun. BE THERE!
I guess I will meet up to you hombres on the Mexican side of the border, assuming I am able to drag myself downtown. I will have had a LONG day of travelling and will be pretty crispy by nightfall. But I hope to see you there. Perhaps I will wear a nametag or something so you will recognize me. Anyone else, besides BorderJumper, who will be meeting up on the Mexican side of the border??
[QUOTE=Mugroso]Did she happen to mention a certain website which she happens to be the only MP girl currently in the collection?
[/QUOTE]
Nope.
Christina's not much for conversation.
My hands are still have a little frostbite on 'em from her.
What website is she in?
[QUOTE=Clydesdale]Actually, technically it wasn't a virus, just malicious code, as stated in my title. The chica virus thing was just to add a little humor. If you clicked on the box disguising itself as an ActiveX control, you downloaded and installed software that steals a lot of system resources and causes numerous system conflicts. It slipped by Norton AV, SpyBot search and destroy, and my firewall. AV software won't find it. SpyBot probably would have caught it in the next scan, but I didn't have to wait because my firewall immediately started flagging it trying to send info off my computer. I wasn't attacking, just warning.
Now on to the important stuff - the Halloweeniepalooza. I sent a few of you my #; anyone else needs it - pm me. It will be fun. BE THERE![/QUOTE]
I got the same thing. Slipped around most of my security, but AVG alerted me.I have SpyBot as well, but it won't alert to intrusions.Sorry to be so rude, but that is very aggravating. And I am very sorry to miss this fiesta. Have a great time,gents!
Well looks like I won't be joining you all. I have a date with a girl. Hopefully she doesn't flake out on me. If she does, well I will just have to catch up to you all! I have never heard of Luxxor. If you got any info, numbers, rating of girls, cost, services, etc., and any other MPs, I would apreciate it. I am a memeber of Mug's site. I am lookin forward to the updates. Christina is nice and plan on going to see her. Just one sugestion for ya Mug... For each place, can you go into a little more detail of the place? The do's and don'ts, who to look for and who to avoid, how much to expect to pay, scams, etc. I am comfortable some what with the bars, but I am more interested n the MP scene. Since I will not drive over there and speak two spanish words, all the navigation help is needed. I don't mind walking around a little. I cross at the Sante FE bridge. And Yes, I have RTFF and have tried to build a guide for the MPs over there, but no real clear help. I only went to Serena, and the one across from it (they were closed).
I am kinda tired of going to just the Caberet and the annoying lady with the cup asking for a dollar even when you are getting a dance, and would like a little more freedom of movement. Also, no reviews of the Pink Lady? Whats the deal now with that place?
About the virus thing ...
Why click on the box in the first place? I know most of you won't, but then if you didn't, you wouldnt have that problem to begin with. When going to a site, and those "you must click yes" just click cancel(even though it will be 20 times) and you can still access the site.
On one site, my brother decided to just go ahead and click YES because he was tired of that thing popping up(different site), needless to say I had to reformat his computer because it installs a TON of spyware/malware/adware into your system.
With/without an antivirus, just don't click anything !
[QUOTE=Whoratio]Spare me the hot air, oh ye of infinite wisdom because you have more posts than I do. After seeing that SOME of you got a virus from the site I tried to delete the message but was unable to do so. I was also unable to report my own messages using the "report post" option so I emailed the forum requesting they delete or edit the offending message.
Clydesdale, RearWindow, you say you got a virus from the site and then you quote the HTML link in your reply. Real frigging smart there you two. If you are able to do so let me suggest you go back and delete YOUR messages which contain links to infected sites.
BTW, my Symantec AV did not detect any viruses and I scanned my machine and did not find any. You guys must have gotten "lucky". Even so, I apologize to anyone out there who got a virus from SOMEONE ELSES site, at least to everyone who hasn't been pricks about it.[/QUOTE]Dude, I got to wonder, why exactly would you post URLs to sites that are unrelated to this forum?
[QUOTE=95 Vette]About the virus thing ...
With/without an antivirus, just don't click anything ![/QUOTE]
Glad you picked up on that, Vette, cuz now I don't feel like such a heel. And thanks to Jackson for deleting my original post, but in retrospect I wish I had not asked him to because common sense would have saved the folks who had trouble with this site from the grief it caused them.
Anybody out there using a computer to surf the net, and I do mean ANYONE, is going to be subjected to shit like this at every turn. And sex/adult/mature sites are the worst offenders of the lot. Jackson does a good job of keeping his system clean of this sort of crap but you can bet your favorite testicle that the spyware pimps out there are working day and night to hang their fruits on the tree we are eating from here. But the ultimate responsibility falls to the individual user to safeguard themselves against it. And to not whine that it is someone elses fault when it does happen because of their own negligence.
Here is another point. The biggest hole in Internet Explorer's security is this god damn Active-X shit. If any of you out there are still using Internet Explorer you need to go into the setup and disable Active-X controls from websites. IE is so stupid that if a site sends an Active-X script to your computer to reformat your hard drive IE will just go ahead and do it, no questions asked. A better option is to delete IE and start running Firefox, like me. I never even saw the offending pop-up that got you guys because I have my Firefox set to block them. And Active-X disabled to boot. So I am spyware/adware/ect-proof to a large degree. But then I have only been doing computer shit for 25 years since the days of Altairs I built myself and did not just discover them yesterday after they became disposable consumer entertainment appliances.
The new search method is not to good. I do RTFF, but I can't find it so I am asking. WHen taking a cab from the Sante Fe Bridge to Venus, what is the land mark to give the cabbie, and then where do I go? Is it Montana steak house?
[QUOTE=Bolongo] I have never heard of Luxxor. If you got any info, numbers, rating of girls, cost, services, etc., and any other MPs, [/QUOTE]
The El paso # for Luxxor is 915-256-0518. Mexico # is 01152-656-632-5557. Price is $35. I posted a map a while back. It's a couple miles if you walk it. The lady in charge speaks English. I've seen a couple of cuties and a couple of scaries in there.
[QUOTE=Clydesdale]The El paso # for Luxxor is 915-256-0518. Mexico # is 01152-656-632-5557. Price is $35. I posted a map a while back. It's a couple miles if you walk it. [/QUOTE]
Yeah, I know there were some maps posted and directions posted earlier, but the new search format will not let me find them.
Haven't checked into the forum in almost a month because of a programming project. Dougie called tonight to invite me to the big event, but there was no way I could get out because of commitments. Having cable Internet here in Juarez has enabled me to make $50 an hour, and certain things were promised by Monday morning. If I had known, all I had to do was not commit. But I did, and that's that.
Hope everyone had a great time.
So I went to Luxxor today. They are open from 10 am to 9 pm during the week and saturdays and from 12-6 on sunday. Weekdays and saturdays they have 10 girls and on Sunday there are 5. The 4 were all decent today, but The choice was between Alex and Vanessa or Victoria. I can't remember which was which. She has braces. I decided to go with Alex cuz her breasts were bigger, and she looked like she was more of a freak. The one with braces was pretty and looked more American. The place is nice. A separate bar area, a barber shop, and private dance area with a pole, a buffet area, and a cocktail room. The cost was $40 ( The sign said $35 but I guess since they came to pick me up it was another $5). The massage was ok. She soon whipped out the condom and hopped on. then a little doggy and mish. it was pretty good. Afterwards, she just laid there catching her breath while I showered. She watched me from the time I got out the shower dripping wet until I put my clothes on. She said something, but I don't speak spanish and she said it real low. I am only 25 and I am kinda cut. I gave her a $10 tip cuz I didn;t want to give her a $20. She was all over me walking out and had my arm around her. She was saying something to the other girls on the couch while I talked to the main lady about my stay. She speaks english well. When I sat down to wait for the guy to give me a ride back, they were all looking at me and smiling and real friendly. The atmosphere there is nice and laid back. Oh, and a bud or budlight is only $2. Next time I am gonna try the one with braces unless I see something more inticing.
Are they still partaking?
Have they become floats in the Day of The Dead parade?
Did the participants end up in a dirt-floor cell somewhere in the bowels of our beloved Juarez?
For those of us that are, at the moment, living vicariously thru your activities - WE NEED REPORTS! ;)
Heres a little rundown on the palooza. The only one who showed up at the "park" was Clydesdale. We waited for any stragglers but none showed so we crossed the border and met up with BJ, Dougie, and another who is not yet up graded to regular member so in good taste I won't mention his name. I don't know why but it was real easy to spot the guys. It was a shame Scoup couldn't make it and I guess Bolongo's girl didn't flake out.
Here is a rundown.
Lots of spooky women at Las Palmeras. Cienega, Isela is happy again, you know why.
Centro Lagunero, fatty central didn't let me down, we left promptly. Delivered Viviana's pics, I'm sure she loved them, but she seemed a bit disappointed that I didn't bring her the inappropriate pics.
Minnie was pretty hot looking at the Año Nuevo. Don't ask me why I didn't take her to the room, she looked so sweet sucking that lollipop.
Eduardo's was dead, I only saw 4 girls. Typical for this place which is why I never stay.
Irmas, well, we just kept on walking. This place is as close to TJ as it gets in Juarez.
We bypassed Faustos, I don't know why, they always have eye candy.
Both Dianas were delicious looking at the Las Vegas Bar along with other hotties to many to mention.
Queens Place is always fantastic. Thats my favorite place in all of Mexico. Yessenia wasn't working, she would have been quite a show piece. Janet liked her pics.
We dropped into a new club, M&M, and left. Nice chicas but the crowd there was a bunch of young punks. I would like to have a soda there sometime but only when the clientel matures a bit.
By this time we were down to 3 guys and while walking over to the Rancho Grande we ran into this chick, Yvette. She is American who got ditched in Juarez. So now us three plus one went over to the Rancho Grande.
One cutie at Rancho Grande. There was one hottie, Stefanie. I could have gone with her for 40 bucks but I had an eye on one other.
After Rancho we headed out aimlessly and BJ went his way. Me and Clydesdale plus one went to the Año Nuevo again. There I put the move on Yvette. I will spare you the details.
We had a great time. The only drawback was the loud music interfering with good conversation. We may have to plan for the next one with that in consideration. Clydesdale is a great guy. He gave me and Yvette a 2 block ride to my truck after the fest.
My palooza didn't end there. It ended Monday morning when I dropped off Yvette at her place. Cool girl, I hope to see her again.
The Fillthy(lucky)One
I went to Luxxor last weekend, where I was entertained by a lady named Crystal, who usually works the early shift of 11 am to 6 pm. I had a great time with her due to her cheery personality. Afterwards, I had a pedicure at the premises. The cost was $180 pesos. If you want, you can get a manicure as well, which costs $100 pesos, plus other services that a beauty salon typically offers.
One of the owners gave me a tour of the place. It is now a combination massage parlor and beauty salon, hence the services for the pedicure and the manicure. Adjoining the two establishments is a living room with sofas, magazines, and TV. It is really becoming a truly classy place.
In addition, the owner indicated that there is going to be a steam room, along with a room for a bachelor party. If you want, you can ask for beer at the place. One of the male workers there does errands for the girls and owner. There is a convenience store around the corner where this guy can get you food and booze.
MUGROSO: Thank you for the report. I can almost smell the 2AM exhaust fumes!
Las Palmeras seems to get spookier every time I go there. Glad to hear it's staying true to form. & thanks.
Where is/what was this new club M&M? And where is Rancho Grande? I don't remember that one but I haven't been there since May :( .
Glad to hear you all got thru with a safe fun time.
I'm in Palm Springs still recovering from the weekend although I will be back in Juarez tomorrow night or Thursday.
I concur with Mugroso on his report. Gret bunch guys and a pleasure to meet. The music sucks though. I'm still hearing it!
I came back looking for you and the crew Mug. Seems as Ricardo didn't set his clock back, ran my ride offso I ended up walking across the bridge and a $35.00 taxi ride back to my truck with a Republican Bush lover at the wheel. Pure torture! Should gone to the Villa Manport instead. Next time, I will rent a car from Avis!
Glad to hear you and Yvette made the deal! Way to go man. Give us the down and dirty!
[QUOTE=BorderJumper]
I came back looking for you and the crew Mug. Seems as Ricardo didn't set his clock back, ran my ride offso I ended up walking across the bridge and a $35.00 taxi ride back to my truck with a Republican Bush lover at the wheel. Pure torture! Should gone to the Villa Manport instead. Next time, I will rent a car from Avis!
Glad to hear you and Yvette made the deal! Way to go man. Give us the down and dirty![/QUOTE]
BJ
You should have called my cell. You would have saved 35 bucks and I would have been out numbered on the Bush/Kerry debate. Can't believe you paid 35 to hear someone elses point of view.
Cienega
If you exit Queens and cross the street angleing left to the gasoline parking and cross the next street, it is there.
Mug
The Halloween gathering was fun, and I second the reports of BorderJumper and Mugroso. Mugroso, BorderJumper, Dougie, and the other partier were a fun group.
Here's a couple of counterpoints to Mugroso's post. He said there was one hottie at Rancho Grande. That doesn't begin to describe her. She was the finest I saw all night - nice tight body with nice tits. I hope that's the start of a trend there. The last 2 times I've been there there's been some babes. usually the quality isn't too good. I gave Yvette (the girl Mugroso hooked up with) a buck to tip the dancer and she got a good show. Made me wish I would have done it myself, but I wanted to see her reaction.
Queen's used to be my favorite also, but now Las Vegas is starting to win me over as my favorite. I wonder if Diana2 has anything to do with that? In addition to her, there's Diana1, Claudia (pictured on Mugroso's site) and many others. The other guys were patient enough to wait while Diana2 and I went out for a stroll. Mugroso kindly snapped foto of us, which I posted in the photo section. I had to edit it slightly since I was having a bad hair day.
We will have to make these regular events.
Clydesdale - that looks like a cute little cutie.
Just another message to read for me to kick myself in the a*s for not being able to get out of town. I would've liked to have been able to meet you guys. And Dougie too - to share notes on the old Alpine Village!
Anyway - thanks to your picture post I'll be able to pick you out of the crowd now & invite you to a cold one when I'm there.
Guys
I recieved an email from a reporter at the Diario, the Juarez newspaper. It contained several questions. I replyed asking for what reason and the response was there is going to be an article coming out soon about my website.
At first I was going to ignore it but I think I should answer the questions. If I don't I'm sure the article will be written the way the reporter feels it should be written. I have taken the chica pics down on the free pages to prevent then from being printed in the paper. This is only temporary.
His impression is my site promotes sexual tourism which is contrary, I promote the strip bars.
I hope I haven't finally bitten off more than I could chew.
Mug
I answered the reporters questions. I figure a reporter will complete his assignment no matter if I answer. This is the only opportunity to speak out in the Mexican press. Either that or be demonized in print.
Below are the answers if anyone is interested.
Martin
First a little background on my website. I started my website the 7th of July 2004. I modeled it after ladiesofnogales.com
Americans don’t visit Juarez as much as they used to. Juarez has gotten an unjustified reputation over the years and the tragedy of September 11 didn’t help much. Americans don’t cross the border as much because of rumors about crooked police and fear of street thugs. My website assures them that the rumors are just not true. The police of Juarez are generally honest and very friendly and thugs are not as common as one would think.
As far as the bars are concerned some are good, others are not. I offer reviews of such places just as a critic reviews a movie or a restaurant. I am not employed by the bars and receive no payments or support in any way. Also included in my member pages is some basic Spanish. Proper phrases to say such as. “thank you, no, yes, I would like a beer” etc. I also suggest a couple of restaurants to eat at should one want to sample some of the local flavors.
What I don’t do is promote prostitution. The brothels downtown are not mentioned at all on my website. My website is not intended to promote sexual tourism in any way. Members and visitors to my website ask me questions in regards to the sex industry in Juarez and I explain to them in the way I have explained it to you.
How long have you had the website and what have been the results?
My website has been up since July of 2004. To this date I have had over 9000 visitors to the website and a few have become members. Visitors to the site are mostly Americans although I have visits from Europe and the Middle East.
How do you see the economic situation with the bars you promote on your website?
I really don’t know the economic situation of the bars in downtown Juarez. I don’t know how well the bars profit. I am not supported by the bars to promote them.
Who are and where do your principle clients come from?
My clients are mostly men from the United States.
Have you had visitors from contries other than the United States?
I have had inquiries from other countries. So far no one has traveled from outside the United States to visit Juarez. I have had Saudi Arabians ask me to send them a woman however I don’t offer such a service. My website only provides advise and information on bars in Juarez.
What do you charge for the services you offer?
I charge 24.99USD to access the member pages and 30 dollars for an escorted tour of the bars in downtown Juarez.
Martin, thank you for your interest in my site. If you have any further questions please feel free to email me.
Webmaster of the **************.com
Interesting Mug. What brought your site to the attention of this reporter, I wonder.
I'd step lightly though around this issue though with the change in government less than 30 days away.
It remains to be seen if the "new" PRI will continue to take the country in a positive direction or if things will soon revert back tot he way they always were with the corruption and all.
I do know quite a few of the bar owners are looking forward to being able to remian open until 4 in the morning within th enext year as these "permits" for the added hours are supposedly going to become available.
I'm curious also Mug. Did this reporter seem to have a bias one way or the other about your website and it's subject matter?
I do know also, that here in NL and elsewhere, there is always talk of closing down the zonas and putting an end to the sex tourism business. No doubt at the urging of authorities north of the border.
Keep us informed here l'il buddy!
I remember being told some time ago that the border bars closed at 2 to agree with U.S. requests or some crap like that. This was after a trip or two to TJ a while back and I didn't really think about it much. Being from Vegas I have to "adjust" anytime I leave home...
Is there any truth to this? Was it to "help" a border country? I thought I remember hearing a long, long time ago that they were a late nite thing - even past 4AM.
[QUOTE=Cienega32]Are they still partaking?
Have they become floats in the Day of The Dead parade?
Did the participants end up in a dirt-floor cell somewhere in the bowels of our beloved Juarez?
For those of us that are, at the moment, living vicariously thru your activities - WE NEED REPORTS! ;)[/QUOTE]
My palooza is still going strong almost a week later. :-D But I must admit I was a bit of a weenie last weekend. Unfortunately I had not slept more than two hours the night before, had been travelling all day and had not eaten anything besides a nasty airport hot dog and some milk and donuts all day. And I was still two time zones ahead of the rest of the guys. So come round 9:00pm that evening I was dead on my feet and wimped out. Sounds like the rest of the crew just kept going and going like a perverted little pack of Energizer Bunnies. But I did not feel like I had missed anything since BJ and I had already hit the MPs before the evening festivities had even begun. My nightcap consisted, unfortunately, of having to hoof it all the way from the Zona to the Villa Manport having waited until after the last of the busses had run to pack it in. That's a pretty good little stroll, especially at night in Juarez on Halloween weekend. Needless to say I slept like a cadaver that night.
Speaking of cadavers, the Day of the Dead festivities this year seem to have been sharply attenuated. Unfortunately and unbeknownst to me a few months back the Mercado Cuahotemoc burned practically to the ground, the only thing left standing is the metal framework and masonry shell and it is being demolished even as we speak. This doubly sucks since the place had just recently been renovated on the outside and, according to locals, none of the vendors were insured and lost all their stock and other business assets. This had the net effect of displacing all of the street vendors who previously occupied the perimeter of the Mercado onto the cathedral grounds. So there was really no place outside the cemeteries for the "public" DOD ceremonies, which were therefore reduced to a few folks dressed as skeletons. Bummer. But on the bright side, there is a new Mercado Reforma being constructed just a couple of blocks east of the old Mercado Cuahtemoc so hopefully in the near future the vendors will have a new home.
Other than that, Juarez is just the same old same old. The MPs are still staffed by a collection ranging in size, tending toward the gordita end of the spectrum. There are bright spots though. There is a young hottie named Sol at El Encanto and another named Joanna at Cleopatra's. Joanna has dark skin and a dynamite J-Lo ass and set of legs and a panocha to die for. So far she is my favorita of the trip. Neither is bad looking in the face either, if not beautiful. Cleo's also has a couple of other good prospects, one that looks REAL young that I have not had the pleasure of partaking of just yet and another that is slender and very pretty in the face. Can't remember their names though, being mesmerized by Joanna's fantastic ass and legs. ;^) There is another muchacha with a fine J-Lo ass and legs and great chi-chis at Felinas named Yoli but she is older, says she is 28, and not much to look at in the face. OK on her back though. From what I have seen you can skip Serinas and Corpus, and Luxxor only had one looker the day I was there and one who looked to be a TS or TV named Alex. Alex kind of gave me the creeps.
Corpus and El Encanto are upselling from their "base" price of $300MN whereas Genesis and Felinas are not. And no upselling from the base $350MN at Luxxor or Cleo's either. Sirenas is still sticking to the $400MN and trying to upsell REAL hard to upsell to a $600MN session in the Jacuzzi. It might be worth it if there were some quality dishes on the menu, but unfortunately there ain't. Too bad too, with such a convenient location.
Anyway, the day is wearing on and the muchachas should be arriving at the MPs right about now so I think I will be out to carve a couple of more notches before calling it a trip.
[QUOTE=Clydesdale]Mugroso kindly snapped foto of us, which I posted in the photo section. I had to edit it slightly since I was having a bad hair day.[/QUOTE]
A bad hair day is when you FINALLY go to Wal-Mart, buy a set of clippers, and just cut all the shit off down to about 3/8". ;^)
[QUOTE=Mugroso]I recieved an email from a reporter at the Diario, the Juarez newspaper. It contained several questions. I replyed asking for what reason and the response was there is going to be an article coming out soon about my website.
His impression is my site promotes sexual tourism which is contrary, I promote the strip bars.
I hope I haven't finally bitten off more than I could chew.[/QUOTE]
Sounds like they are preparing to smear shit all over themselves and then complain about being covered with shit. I don't understand this mindset. You may not be overtly promoting sex tourism but only a fool thinks gringos in the Zona are not there looking for pussy. The Zona and the MPs are a source of "hard" currency :-D, and have been for years (decades, centuries??). In an otherwise declining economy nonetheless. :-( No doubt the article about your site will run alongside another article whining about the loss of jobs, increase in poverty, yada, yada. Shooting themselves in both feet at one time. And the funny thing is, nothing is going to change. Lip service will be paid, a few gringos will be shaken down and harassed and maybe a few bar owners will temporarly lose their license until the promise to "clean up". In the end the Zona will be sleazier, the population will be poorer and gringos will still be crossing the border looking for pussy.
[QUOTE=Cienega32]I remember being told some time ago that the border bars closed at 2 to agree with U.S. requests or some crap like that.[/QUOTE]
The thing is, 18 year olds pour over from EP to booze it up in downtown Juarez. This is a sore point and has been for some time. Like with Mug's case you can expect lip service and not much else. I gotta think that by 2am most folks are getting played out anyway, so the whole thing is a great big non-issue in the first place.
[QUOTE=Cienega32] I would've liked to have been able to meet you guys. And Dougie too - to share notes on the old Alpine Village![/QUOTE]
And I am going to make some of that soup from the recipe you sent me when I get back. Promise.
Hey guy! I was wondering if we were going to have to send S&R looking for you!
You know the 4 am thing is nothing new.. With the 2 am closing, quite a few of the bars have kept their back rooms open until almost daylight. Especially convenient for the truckstop shuttle drivers to gouge a few more bucks out of the customers.
So tell me guys, is your opinion of the lowly truck driver elevated somewhat?
And Dougie. The hair clipper comment! IT's a bad haircut but you oughta see the doll in Laredo that does it!
[QUOTE=BorderJumper]
So tell me guys, is your opinion of the lowly truck driver elevated somewhat?
[/QUOTE]
Yes. You won't find any bad comments about truckers from me in this forum. Heck, my sister in law is one.
I'll buy you a drink next time Border Jumper. You bought the last round at Rancho Grande, then called it a night before I could return the favor.
I wasn't fishing for a compliment or anything.
I saw Dougies post and I was reflecting the diversity of our occupations, those of us that were there, and on other posts derogatory, with good cause sometimes, to truckers and had to throw that in. Unfortunately, peoples minds are made up by the bad behavior of a few, either on the road or in the zona and there is a rough crowd that comes down with the shuttles.
I've been in it for thirty years with few regrets. I've made a ton of money in it. Owned as many as 5 at one time, three right now, and really, I stay behind the wheel for the freedom it gives me.
What it all boils down to, Mongerpalooza II and beyond, is despite what we've chosen to do in life, when it comes to the hobby, there's no difference in us at all. There's no room either for overbearing egos which a lot of guys seem to have lately. I'm not talking specifics or about anyone here but just in generalizations. When it all comes down to it what are we doing but buying pussy and trying to hold on to our youth through proxy!
Hell, when I was in school way back when, Jr. High through College, buying poon was something to be embarrassed about because real men didn't have to. Who would believe that 30 some odd years later attitudes would change.
Enough philosophising <sp>! I'll take you up on the next round and looking forward to it!
[QUOTE=Mugroso]Americans don’t cross the border as much because of rumors about crooked police and fear of street thugs.[/QUOTE]
Funny my first time to be able to get back on the site since I returned from Juarez/EP, I see this post. I would have loved to have gone mongering with you guys Halloween weekend, but guess what? I had not made it more than two blocks into town before I caught the attention of Juarez' "finest" and was subjected to an extremely humiliating and thorough search of my person and my possessions right there on Ave. Fco. Villa. Hell, I was not even on Juarez Avenue. This was by two Policia Municipal in one of those pickup trucks and also by a cop in a small car who happened on the scene. I literally had everything I owned spread out on the hood of this pickup truck, clothes, toiletries, condoms, money, everything.
I was interrogated at length about the purpose of my visit, was I looking for drugs, GIRLS (they saw the two boxes of condoms of course), where was I staying, WHO was I going to meet there (I kept my mouth shut). This went on and on for about half an hour, finally I was allowed to go but only after having a mordita of $20 for EACH of the assholes there extracted to keep me from having to go talk to the judge. This was a good percentage of the cash I had on my person. Fuck!
After escaping from this unpleasant situation without a trip to the jail I decided that this was not the way to start a vacation and I just turned around and headed back across the border. I just got a room in EP, rented a car and decided to just check out some of the local attractions there. I did visit the Space Museum and White Sands in Alamogordo but I decided that I did not need to press my luck and venture another trip south of the border. I seriously doubt that I will ever set foot in Mexico again. At least that is the way I feel right now.
It's not like I have not been shaken down by crooked cops before, but each time I about halfway felt like I deserved it, being someplace I "shouldn't" have been or doing something I "shouldn't" have been doing. But this time I was walking down the street with an overnight bag over my shoulder in broad daylight on Saturday afternoon. Nowhere near the Zona, heading away from downtown. And don't anyone start apologizing for these pricks, no matter how poorly paid someone is there is simply no excuse for police robbery of tourists. It just ain't right and there is no excuse for it. Like I said, it would have been great to meet up with you guys but I ain't planning no more trips to Mexico for a LONG time.
I went by Cleopatras hoping to get a massage and the front was chained up it looks like they may have gone out of business. Does anyone have the low down on whats going on there.
For what it's worth RE: truckers - I drive where/when ever I travel and upon returning home I always here a few folks that seem to complain about the trucks and the drivers. Myself - I think they're great. They (99%) know how to drive and if "you" get with the program it can be a great trip. Most people can learn a few things by watching their methods & protocols. By matching their courtesy an Interstate trip can be very, very stressfree. Of course, as with anything, there are a few jackoffs that give them a bad name.
In a previous "life" I had to deal with drivers on a daily basis in a bar environment & 99% were the goods. But a few would be deadheading or 3 days straight (w/ help) and then start drinking hard. THEY could be a problem when it got to their heads but the "goods" would always take care of their own.
Truckers, in general, I will never have anything bad to say about. 25 years ago, in a very wicked Virginia fog, driving a full size station wagon and a Jartran trailer I had some "problems" seeing three feet in front of me. A driver who was just cruising, without a problem, down the hiway saw that, pulled in front of me and let me ride his tail lights until visibility returned - about an hour. He flashed his lights and travelled off. I'll never forget it.
I'm in Vegas and I see the attitudes change in a slew of people just because of where they are. It's a carefree place to raise hell and they act stupid & loud. I figure it's the same in Juarez. Like Eddie Murphy said in one of his old novies - "Lack of pussy makes me STUPID!".
And I've been feeling a little stupid lately. Think I'll hit The Zona in the next week or two.
Anyone know how to get to MP Cleopatras
Need to visit a JLO butt :)
After crossing the Sante Fe bridge you travel about 4 blocks down Ave Juarez and it's on your left - 2 or 3 doors in - on Ignacio Mejia. I'm pretty sure that's the street name. About a block past the plaza. There's a Cambio on the right side corner of Ave Juarez and a cigarette cart in front.
For better and quicker results "search" is your friend.
[QUOTE=Cienega32]. 25 years ago, in a very wicked Virginia fog, driving a full size station wagon and a Jartran trailer I had some "problems" seeing three feet in front of me. A driver who was just cruising, without a problem, down the hiway saw that, pulled in front of me and let me ride his tail lights until visibility returned - about an hour. He flashed his lights and travelled off. I'll never forget it..[/QUOTE] Not exactly "Big Joe and Phantom 309", but not bad.;) I hope all here are well.
Started the night at Venus Massage. What a waste of time. 3 girls available and all less than desireable. However we (myself and my tour) must have arrived at shift change because I saw about 4 or 5 chicas leaving upon our arrival. One was smoking hot, tall and an ass to die for.
Next stop, Pink Ladies. I haven't been to the Pink since the re-location. Nice looking place, small but well done. It took a while but I remember this place inspite of the remodeling.
Years ago, after the first Gulf War a buddy of mine and a friend of his (Hank Williams Jr look a like) went to Juarez and wound up at this place. I forget what it was called and I don't know how we found it since I didn't know shit about Juarez back then.
Anyways, back to the tour. The chicas weren't bad but not worth the initial 60 dollar offer. 40 dollar quality chicas in my opinion. Half way through the visit 4 hot chicas arrive but they had attitude. They would not acknowledge anyone that tried to get their attention.
So off to downtown. First stop, Ebenezers burritos. I had a chicharon burrito and I don't know how many "tour" had. Finally it was time to see the bars.
First stop, Las Palmeras. Not as good as other nights but fair. Cienega, Isela is getting very aggressive these days. She was yanking my arm and just about demanding I convince "tour" to buy some new chica a drink. Her daughter, Arcely almost has the same attitude with me. Finally we left.
Eventually we wound up back at the burrito stand. Adrian, the owner is one cool dude. He speaks very good English and is a great conversationalist. If you guys want a good central location this place is it. Before the girls go to work, many of them stop here for a burrito and he delivers to the clubs. He knows the low down on the chicas. So much, he should start a website. Adrian was preparing a delicious looking steak burrito for another customer. We ordered some for ourselves but he had to deliver them and get more steak. While waiting we (I) decided to hit some bars and warm up.
Guys, Yessenia was smoking hot. Her birthday is Sunday, so be sure to visit her soon. Clydesdale, we wound up back at Rancho Grande and the hot chica wasn't there. Bummer.
So we wind up back at the burritos and had our steak burritos. All in all, I think we spend more time at the burritos than the bar.
Finally it was time for me. We went to the Año Nuevo and had Minnie again for 27 bucks. We went upstairs where she finished a roach, took some pics, and got down and dirty. She was weird, she kept saying, "Ow, be nice, no, stop the car" and other weird shit that mad no sense. Good and bad, I have had women tell me odd things but never to stop the car while in bed. I feel so special now. I must return.
Mugroso
I posted a report about 2 weeks ago but I have not seen it so I will try again.
I went to Luxxor about 2 weeks ago on a sunday. I called and they picked me up from the bridge. on sundays there are 5 girls working and 10 during the week. I was given the tour. ITs a nice spot. It has a coctail area, a buffet area, a bar, a barber shop/ beauty salon, and a private dance area. All 5 looked ok, but I was gonna pick between one more AMerican looking named either Vanessa or Victoria (she had braces) and a more Mexican and slim Alex. I chose Alex cuz she looked more like a freak. It was $40 for an hour. I guess the other $5 was for picking me up and taking me back. The massage was ok. The porn tape playing was not my kinda porn, then we got it on. It was a pretty good time. I don't speak spanish so it was a little awkward on conversation. Afterwards she just laid there and asked me if I wanted a shower. I jumped in the shower while she just laid there. She got dressed and then watched me dry off and get dressed. She was saying things to her self under her breath and in spanish so I have no idea what she was saying. I hope it was good since I am only 24 and I am in good shape. I gave her a tip and she was really happy about it! The lady in the front speaks good english and she asked me how it was. Since they were now closing, all of the girls were up front and Alex was talking to them. After I finished talking to the lady up front, I sat down to wait for the guy to come back to get me. The other girls were looking at me with big smiles on their faces. Over all, it was a friendly environment. Would be nice if they got a few rooms with beds or larger tables. All in all, it was a good time.
Also, I was in another forum and I found this. what does it mean? I put it in Alta Vista and I couldn't understand what it was saying. Thanks.
Como hace mucho o mas bien nadie dice nada de los masajes ahi les va un review
Loyred esta a espaldas de hipermart sn lorenzo en el segundo piso de unos locales comerciales. Por lo general las chavas de ah estan llenitas pero hacen unos
jales cabrones.
Es una chava guerita llenita de hojos verdes.
Te hace unas mamadas de garganta profunda y te deja que te vengas en la garganta ademas dee eso si le pides que te lamba el anillo te lo hace con gusto , de los guevos se pasa al anillo y asi , no te da prisa. Esta llenita pero despues de la mamadota te lo deja todo flacido. Vale la pena si se te antoja una mamada agresiva
[QUOTE=Whoratio]Funny my first time to be able to get back on the site since I returned from Juarez/EP, I see this post. I would have loved to have gone mongering with you guys Halloween weekend, but guess what? I had not made it more than two blocks into town before I caught the attention of Juarez' "finest" and was subjected to an extremely humiliating and thorough search of my person and my possessions right there on Ave. Fco. Villa. Hell, I was not even on Juarez Avenue. This was by two Policia Municipal in one of those pickup trucks and also by a cop in a small car who happened on the scene. I literally had everything I owned spread out on the hood of this pickup truck, clothes, toiletries, condoms, money, everything.
I was interrogated at length about the purpose of my visit, was I looking for drugs, GIRLS (they saw the two boxes of condoms of course), where was I staying, WHO was I going to meet there (I kept my mouth shut). This went on and on for about half an hour, finally I was allowed to go but only after having a mordita of $20 for EACH of the assholes there extracted to keep me from having to go talk to the judge. This was a good percentage of the cash I had on my person. Fuck!
After escaping from this unpleasant situation without a trip to the jail I decided that this was not the way to start a vacation and I just turned around and headed back across the border. I just got a room in EP, rented a car and decided to just check out some of the local attractions there. I did visit the Space Museum and White Sands in Alamogordo but I decided that I did not need to press my luck and venture another trip south of the border. I seriously doubt that I will ever set foot in Mexico again. At least that is the way I feel right now.
It's not like I have not been shaken down by crooked cops before, but each time I about halfway felt like I deserved it, being someplace I "shouldn't" have been or doing something I "shouldn't" have been doing. But this time I was walking down the street with an overnight bag over my shoulder in broad daylight on Saturday afternoon. Nowhere near the Zona, heading away from downtown. And don't anyone start apologizing for these pricks, no matter how poorly paid someone is there is simply no excuse for police robbery of tourists. It just ain't right and there is no excuse for it. Like I said, it would have been great to meet up with you guys but I ain't planning no more trips to Mexico for a LONG time.[/QUOTE]
No apologies for them. I love everything about Juarez except for the asshole cops.
But your experience was most unusual.
I would not think it would happen again, so don't miss out on all these hot chicas because of that one experience...:) The Space Museum is a poor substitute for the fun you had in mind here.
"Como hace mucho o mas bien nadie dice nada de los masajes ahi les va un review"
More or less good, but since no one says anything about the massages, here is a review.
"Loyred esta a espaldas de hipermart sn lorenzo en el segundo piso de unos locales comerciales. Por lo general las chavas de ah estan llenitas pero hacen unos jales cabrones."
Loryed is behind the Hypermart on San Lorenzo on the second floor of a small commercial area. Generally speaking, the girls there are chubby but they give some great fucks.
"Es una chava guerita llenita de hojos verdes."
She's a blonde with green eyes.
"Te hace unas mamadas de garganta profunda y te deja que te vengas en la garganta ademas dee eso si le pides que te lamba el anillo te lo hace con gusto , de los guevos se pasa al anillo y asi , no te da prisa. Esta llenita pero despues de la mamadota te lo deja todo flacido. Vale la pena si se te antoja una mamada agresiva"
She gives deep throat head and lets you cum down her throat. Also, if you ask her to lick your asshole she will do it with gusto. She'll lick from your balls to your anus and won't hurry you. She's chubby but after the bj she will leave you completely limp. She's worth it if you want an aggressive bj
[QUOTE=Mugroso]Pardon me if I sound sharp at any point in this post Whoratio.
When you crossed the border, how did you wind up on Fco. Villareal? [/QUOTE]I crossed the SF bridge and took a left a block or two south of the bridge. My intention was to get a hotel room before heading downtown to meet up with you guys. It was on Fco. Villa that our friends caught up to me and ruined my trip. Let me reiterate, it was the middle of the afternoon, say 3:00 pm or so and I was obviously heading away from the Zona. Maybe TOO obviously, and that is what aroused their suspicion. Perhaps I should have walked up to them and asked if they knew where I could get some wet, hot pussy.
I am in the process of filing a complaint with the US State Department, for all the good it will do. But if enough complaints are filed for the US State Department to issue travel advisories against venturing into Mexico because of the "Gang in Blue" robbing tourists left and right, maybe something will eventually get done.
I fully understand your total frustration, Whoratio, over what happened on Fco. Villa Street. You were definitely at the wrong place at the wrong time and what happened was unusual.
I have walked down Fco. Villa several times and never been bothered. I feel the most likely area to get stopped by la policia is around the coliseum area.
That being said, I would avoid carrying any overnight bag over your shoulder. For crummy cops, that's an invitation. Also, did you say you had two boxes of condems? That is enough for them to cook up something. I always carry only one condem in a tea shirt that isn't viewed.
Finally, I have NO IDEA if this is true or not, but a SW I have known for years tells me to NOT be afraid of seeing the judge. She says the judge AND the "doctor" at the police station understand English and if you can prove you are and/or were sober and not on drugs, not drinking, not carrying a weapon, etc., the judge will set you free. She says these bad cops do this to bluff us and it's OK to call their bluff. Meaning, don't bribe them.
Again, I do NOT know if what she tells me is true or not, but I have known her for years and she's always been very fair in every way with me. But we all need to face it that when in Mexico you are basically a person without a country. You look for chicas at your own risk and not all people and cops in Mexico are honest. They aren't in the U.S., either.
My Freedom
[QUOTE=Whoratio].
I am in the process of filing a complaint with the US State Department, for all the good it will do. But if enough complaints are filed for the US State Department to issue travel advisories against venturing into Mexico because of the "Gang in Blue" robbing tourists left and right, maybe something will eventually get done.[/QUOTE]
Right idea, wrong venue Whoratio! Right after the event, you should hav taken your happy ass to the Police Station and filed a complaint with them. They would have called the officers in off the street right there and permitted you to make your accusations to their faces. They would have also searched the officers involved for any U.S. cash. Believe it or not, the authorities do take allegations of corruption seriously down here. The cops on the beat though use intimidation and fear to get to you.
Mug, DE, help me out here. Where is that place in Cd. Juarez where these complaints are taken?
i think the place to report that is on or near calle oro and 16 sept. i have never been. i need to find out an include it on the website.
i have been through many shake downs with no money changing hands. but i have 3 incidents that come to mind. the first time i was stopped for speeding in a school zone. i honestly didn't see it but it was there and i was in the wrong. cost, 20usd. second time i stopped at the stop sign at mariscal and ignacio mejia. the traffic lady said i did not stop good. she was hesitant to write me a ticket but i insisted. she did not directly ask for a bribe but said how much of an inconvinience it would be for me to get a ticket. i paid the ticket the next day. cost, 13usd.
the 3rd time still burns my ass. not far from the panama club i was stopped by a camper and 2 shrimps hopped off and the camper drove away. i got the usual shake down as usual but when they left i checked my wallet and was short 20usd. that was out right theft. no scare tactics, threats, nothing.
whoratio, that is really too bad what happened. i did not realize this was in the day. i hope you get over this bad incident and come for a visit soon.
mugroso
Calle Oro and 16th de Sept. is the corect location. And, yes they take allegations seriously. I can testify to that first hand. Really helps if you go with a local, someone you trust to help translate, even if you speak decent Spanish. I would definately not go there alone and 1/2 drunk, might be more trouble than it's worth.
[QUOTE=My Freedom]I have NO IDEA if this is true or not, but a SW I have known for years tells me to NOT be afraid of seeing the judge. She says the judge AND the "doctor" at the police station understand English and if you can prove you are and/or were sober and not on drugs, not drinking, not carrying a weapon, etc., the judge will set you free.[/QUOTE]
The girl is telling the truth. As long as you are not inebriated or full of chemicals, you have a good chance of getting free. This is from a personal experience.
And if I did drink, I would excercise tempreance in Mexico.
This weekend is my weekend and it started on Thursday. I was going to post about each night when I got home, but I thought I would just go ahead and make a detailed report when my festivities were completed, hopefully that won't be until Sunday evening.
So far I have had 2 good experiences but unfortunatly only one photo shoot for the site. Bummer.
Short Marisela was at Queens last night, She is a dead lay but would make for some great pics.
Till Sunday
Mugroso
[quote=whoratio]i am in the process of filing a complaint with the us state department.....[/quote]
old news, save your time, see [url]http://travel.state.gov/travel/mexico.html[/url] . i think you can safely click on this site without having a bunch of adware installed on your computer. :-d. the whole article is worth a read, but here are the parts pertainent to the matter at hand:
"in some instances, americans have become victims of harassment, mistreatment and extortion by mexican law enforcement and other officials. mexican authorities are concerned about these incidents and have cooperated in investigating such cases. however, one must have the officer's name, badge number, and patrol car number to pursue a complaint effectively. please note this information if you are ever involved with police or other officials. in addition, tourists should be wary of persons representing themselves as police officers or other officials. when in doubt, ask for identification."
i think the part about the authorities being "concerned" is horseshit, they're the ones doing the extortin'. also, more specifically to us hobbyists:
"crime in border cities: visitors to border cities such as tijuana, ciudad juarez, nuevo laredo, nogales, and to a lesser extent reynosa and matamoros, should remain alert and be aware of their surroundings at all times. visitors are very vulnerable when visiting the local "red light districts," particularly if they are departing alone in the early hours of the morning. in ciudad juarez, there has also been a rise in automobile accidents in which municipal police extort money from u.s. citizen victims. in reynosa, police have stopped u.s. citizens for questionable reasons and then forced them to withdraw money from atm machines to pay “fines.” "
and just to drive home the point that the mexican polica ain't exactly a bunch of little angels:
"mexican police regularly obtain information through torture, prosecutors use this evidence in courts, and the courts continue to admit as evidence confessions extracted under torture. the authorities rarely punish officials for torture, which continues to occur in large part because confessions are the primary evidence in many criminal convictions. in recent cases u.s. citizens have been brutalized, beaten, and even raped while in police custody. since the beginning of 2002, 15 american citizens have died in mexican prisons: eight of natural causes and two of drug overdoses, while two were suicides and three apparent homicides."
"the mexican government is required by international law to notify the u.s. embassy or the nearest u.s. consulate promptly when an american citizen is arrested, if the arrestee so requests. in practice, however, this notification can be delayed by months or may never occur at all, limiting the assistance the u.s. government can provide. americans should promptly identify themselves as such to the arresting officers, and should request that the embassy or nearest consulate be notified immediately."
so i would think twice about calling their bluff and letting them take you to the carcel. you might just find yourself in a scene from "marathon man", and being south of the border you would not be "safe". (you would have to see the movie). probably better to just pay the mordita than take your chances at 16 de sept and calle oro. just remember, the police ain't your friends, on either side of the border, they are just able to get away with less of their shennanigins on the north side of the rio grande.
one last "juicy" tidbit, pun intended:
"the mexican government has announced an aggressive program to discourage sexual tourism and to punish severely those who engage in sexual activity with minors. soliciting the services of a minor for sexual purposes is illegal in mexico, and is punishable by imprisonment."
"under the protect act of april 2003, it is a crime, prosecutable in the united states, for a u.s. citizen or permanent resident alien, to engage in illicit sexual conduct in a foreign country with a person under the age of 18, whether or not the u.s. citizen or lawful permanent resident alien intended to engage in such illicit sexual conduct prior to going abroad. for purposes of the protect act, illicit sexual conduct includes any commercial sex act in a foreign country with a person under the age of 18. the law defines a commercial sex act as any sex act, on account of which anything of value is given to or received by a person under the age of 18."
more of uncle sam's feel-good legislation, unenforcable of course. but still a good idea to keep your pecker out of **** females, on either side of the border.
I never did report on my final day of extended paloozaing. I finally made it over to Marilyns, and I am glad I did. They have a muchacha there named Jovanna who you simply must stop by and visit. She does not look like your typical Mexican girl, more of an Italian model look to her. Really great bone structure in the face, late 20's, maybe early 30's, she would have been a REAL knockout just a few short years ago. Perfect set of real chi-chis, even if her ass and legs are a bit on the skinny side for my tastes. Great service too. $300MN, no upselling. I decided not to tempt fate and to end the mongering activities on a high note although I admit I had a hard time staying away from having just one more dip with Joanna at Cleopatras, with her incredible J-Lo ass and legs. I hope that place isn't closed and that she is still there my next trip. So I just washed clothes, ate dinner and hit the sack early in anticipation of doing the Boy Scout thing to the airport in EP early the next day for an uneventful trip home.
Here are a few more interesting tidbits:
I never got through customs quicker, after spending a week in Mexico I greeted the hispanic-looking customs guy with "Buenos Dias". He just looked at my gringo ass and asked me my citizenship. I reached for my US passport and he just waved me through without even looking at it.
The fabled "Girls of de la Paz" are still there, some of them even looked pretty good. Info for a monger on a really tight budget. Just remember the area around the old Mercado is now a clusterfuck since the Mercado burned down. And there were lots of cops back there but none of them fucked with me. Wonder why? I must have looked poor or something.
Mariscos de Mazatlan has a two for one or half off your entree on Tuedays. This is an incredible deal on some of the best gourmet seafood you will ever eat anywhere. $6 USD for Camaron al Ajo and a Coke cannot be beat.
El Toro Bronco on Av. de las Americas a couple of blocks south of Hnos. Escobar is now my hands down favorite steak house in Juarez. I hate to say it, but they beat El Herradero easily, even if they are more expensive. You simply must try, go for the t-bone.
Speaking of El Toro Bronco, the Motorcycle Policia are using one of the storefronts in the shopping center next to the steakhouse as a sort of mini-substation. This means there is LOTS of motorcycle cop activity up and down Av. de las Americas, Hnos. Escobar and Av. Lincoln. You guys with cars you drive across the border be careful.
It only took about a week for my tender little gringo digestive tract to return to normal after this trip, last fall it was fucked up for almost a month. I don't know what it is or where it comes from but I seem to pick up some bug every time I spend time eating in the local restaurants in Mexico.
Cienega, I still have not done the chicken soup thing, been too busy.
I'm sure I made some more observations and they have just slipped my mind for the time being. I will drop them in as the come to me.
[QUOTE=Bolongo]I chose Alex cuz she looked more like a freak.....[/QUOTE]
Hey, I wondered how Alex would have been. I chose a girl who looked more East Indian than Mexican, forgot her name. I've had better I must admit, I might have been better served by Alex. I must admit that at first glance Alex looked like she could have easily been a TS or a TV, that is why I took the other girl. Although Alex did have a real exotic look to her. I guess from your report all the plumbing was correct?? Although the doctors are mighty good at doing the old switcheroo these days. :-D
One bit of info for you mongers on foot or even driving. As you hoof it east on 16 de Sept you will pass, on the same side of the road as Masajes Luxxor a photographic studio also named Luxor, with one "x". Don't confuse the two, that could be embarassing. Masajes Luxxor is almost directly across the street from a big Santander Serfin bank, not hard to find. The place used to be a "legit" spa of some sort or another as I recall.
[QUOTE=Dougie]
One bit of info for you mongers on foot or even driving. As you hoof it east on 16 de Sept you will pass, on the same side of the road as Masajes Luxxor a photographic studio also named Luxor, with one "x". Don't confuse the two, that could be embarassing. Masajes Luxxor is almost directly across the street from a big Santander Serfin bank, not hard to find. The place used to be a "legit" spa of some sort or another as I recall.[/QUOTE] I almost made that mistake a bit back.
"El Toro Bronco on Av. de las Americas a couple of blocks south of Hnos. Escobar is now my hands down favorite steak house in Juarez. I hate to say it, but they beat El Herradero easily, even if they are more expensive"
NOWAY!! I will stand by EH till my dying day as the best in Juarez!:-)
I had an evil streak in me starting midweek last week so Thursday I headed to Cleopatra Masajes. I saw Johanna as mentioned by Dougie. Hot chica. Even though she answered the door she said she was busy but Ivonne was available. I’m sure she was as she was hiding in the hallway in a towel. Guys, never say no to a chica in a towel.
I recall seeing her name in an ad in the Diario so I didn’t expect much of a massage but I went for it anyway. It was actually decent. She had talented hands and put the pressure on as I like it that way. She started the second portion of the massage with a hand job so good, I thought she was giving me head. Cost, 350 pesos which is about 30USD.
Friday was bar hopping night. Went to Las Palmeras and saw Isela. As usual I said hi, which is becoming a mistake lately. She is really irritating these days. I left as quickly as I could and went to check out the other bars. Viviana was busy at Centro Lagunero and I didn’t feel like waiting. She was my target lady for the evening. I went by the Año Nuevo to say hi to Minnie. She was as cut as ever. You guys have got to give her a spin sometime soon. Marisela is back at Queens Place. Dead lay but hot to look at.
I made my way back to Centro Lagunero and damn it, Viviana was still busy. Gypsy, a real ranchera type chica started to hit me up. I resisted at first but she convinced me. We went upstairs and got down to business. I am a lazy lover. I just laid there. She gave a good BBBJ and wrapped my up and rode to town. Oh yeah, I got some pics and will post soon. Cost, 300 pesos or 26USD.
Saturday night hooked up with BorderJumper and we headed down to the Zona. Started the night again at Las Palmeras and again Isela was a pain in the ass. After pestering me for a drink she tries to pressure me into getting BJ to buy her a drink. She thinks that if someone is with me, I am to get them to spend money.
We worked out way up to Rancho Grande where we stayed a while. I wasn’t too impressed. We met a chica who was celebrating her birthday like I was. She isn’t hot but I did like her attitude. She gave us each a bag of candy. Yummy. We saw Marilu at Virginias. Hot, hot, hot. She was wearing a black latex dress and looked like a real dominatrix. She is so damn sexy like that and stockings too boot. We hit a few other bars and wound up back at the Rancho Grande where things really got out of hand. Confetti was tossed and birthday girl broke out the cake and I took some pics of the cake cutting. They girls started smearing icing on any and everything. Great pics.
The bars are staying open till 3am for the holidays so keep this in mind for your next trip to the lovely city of Juarez. This will continue until January 7th. We left just short of 3am and walked back across the border. I’m surprised they let us back in the USA covered in confetti and icing.
Sunday I headed to Marilyn’s and got there at about 1:30pm. I have heard about Alondra and had to try her out for myself. Very dainty massage but she took her time. Sucked on her titties a while. Damn it, why didn’t anyone tell me she was lactating?
Excellent weekend, I got laid 3 out of the last 4 days. I look forward to the next one and if anyone ever has a chance to party with BorderJumper, consider it a privilege.
Mugroso
[QUOTE=Dougie]I never did report on my final day of extended paloozaing. I finally made it over to Marilyns, and I am glad I did. They have a muchacha there named Jovanna who you simply must stop by and visit. She does not look like your typical Mexican girl, more of an Italian model look to her. Really great bone structure in the face, late 20's, maybe early 30's, .
[/QUOTE]
Jovanna's back? That is good news indeed! She wasn't there the last few time I was there. Someone said she had left.
Hi guys,
I plan to go to Juarez this Thursday and stay overnight at Villa Mansport. My question for my fellow mongers is, will my car be safe at Villa Mansport? Do they have someone watching the cars? Thanks, if any one is in Juarez on Thurs. the 25th and Fri. the 26. lets meet for drinks.
Kim
If you are looking for a little trophy-girl notch in your belt, try Claudia at Luxxor. She's not that into it, but she is VERY fine (looks a little like the fashion model Aurelie Claudel, google her name for pics). If you're looking for the GFE, she's not your girl, but she is very very pretty. She did the cold fish thing until I flipped her over doggy-style. Great for thirty bucks, I haven't seen a girl as good looking as she is in the masajes in a long long time, maybe since Nohemi at Marilyns. 10 on looks, 7 on massage, 6 on performance.
If you're into the GFE, try a girl at Pink Lady named Sandra. Fake blonde, decent body and really kind of pretty. About a 7 on looks, but a 10 in the back room. No rushing, no complaining, and totally got into it. Deep french kissing allowed and total enjoyment.
Also saw two hotties at Las Vegas, but was short on cash by then.
Had some time before the hoilday started so I want to JZ. Went bar hopping and hit Virginas and Queens. I saw Marilu and she was looking somewhat thugish. I almost did not notice her. She moved from Queens and Virginas with this other girl behind her. Just wanted to know if she goes both ways?
Had some fun time with Kathy and of course Melissa.
[QUOTE=Kimbrough]Hi guys,
I plan to go to Juarez this Thursday and stay overnight at Villa Mansport. My question for my fellow mongers is, will my car be safe at Villa Mansport? Do they have someone watching the cars? Thanks, if any one is in Juarez on Thurs. the 25th and Fri. the 26. lets meet for drinks.
Kim[/QUOTE]
It must have taken a couple days for your post to get on the board. I would have met you for drinks Friday, but didn't see your post 'til just now.
There weren't as many people as normal Friday, but it wasn't dead. Queens had its fair share of hotties. If you like slim chicks, there's a blonde there called Brandy. We went to the room a couple of months ago, and I never saw her again until tonight. Only a 6 for performance, but oh what a body!
I'm happy to report that Minnie is as good as Mugroso says.
[QUOTE=Clydesdale]I'm happy to report that Minnie is as good as Mugroso says.[/QUOTE]
That Minnie is a real "sucker" for balls isn't she. Last time I had her she was in another state and kept saying weird things like stop the car, be nice, and other weird things unrelated to what we were doing. But that just added to the fun.
Mug
Alll the years I've stayed at the Villa Manport, and parking in the front, I've never had any problems with my vehicles there or anywhere in Cd. Juarez or Nuevo Laredo
[QUOTE=BorderJumper]Alll the years I've stayed at the Villa Manport, and parking in the front, I've never had any problems with my vehicles there or anywhere in Cd. Juarez or Nuevo Laredo[/QUOTE]
A little late to do you any good, but one monger reportedly had his truck stolen from in front of the Villa Manport. It's practically on the street, they would have to have someone watching it full time to prevent all thefts. They have security but they are not all seeing and all knowing. And car thieves are, out of necessity, pretty quick practicioners of their vocation.
But, the "Cabanas" the Villa Manport maintains do have secured parking. They are right across Hnos. Escobar from the VM on Panama behind Sirenas. The rooms are more "motel like" in that there is no lobby you have to go through to get to the rooms, so IMHO the rooms are less secure. I would guess they would not have a problem with you parking at the Cabanas and staying at the hotel. Just ask.
Hey guys, I was in the Zona on Wednesday night and everything was DEAD, but I did find a few gems.
There are about three girls at Las Vegas that I thought were really hot. I had drinks with one named Araceli. She was very nice, didn't try to hustle drinks etc. The only thing was when I asked if she would go to the cuarto with me, she said she was in her "dias". Bummer, because she has a hot little body on her. Still, at least I know that she'll go to the cuarto.
Hit the other bars but everything was quiet. Finally at Centro Lagunero I met a girl named Stefani. She's a little like a biker chick with tattoos which was something different for me but she has a great bod. Massive tits and a tiny waist. She wanted forty. Also, one thing to report, the rooms there are really nice. The nicest of any club I've been to. Mirrored ceilings and the whole nine yards, very comfortable.
Anyway, I recommend this girl if you're looking for a cheap but still good alternative.
I prefer those intimate drive inn motels. I feel safe with my little truck just a few feet away from me. Like Dougie says, "car thieves are, out of necessity, pretty quick practicioners of their vocation". But the trouble is, when the room next door opens their garage door, i always freak thinking its my door.
My old standards are the Le Baron and Casa Blanca. But lately I have been going to this place on Ave, De La Raza, starts with a B. And there is one on Ave Triunfo called Avanti. The B place is real nice and so is Avanti but their floors are bare, no carpet.
When Veronica came down in September, we stayed at the Holiday Inn Express, 70 bucks and up.
Mugroso
[QUOTE=Scoup]Had some time before the hoilday started so I want to JZ. Went bar hopping and hit Virginas and Queens. I saw Marilu and she was looking somewhat thugish. I almost did not notice her. She moved from Queens and Virginas with this other girl behind her. Just wanted to know if she goes both ways?
Had some fun time with Kathy and of course Melissa.[/QUOTE]
I spoke with Marilu once about other chicas and she was very much against it. Even to have another in the room didn't appeal to her. I have heard that those who fear or hate homosexuals tend to have their own tendencies. I don't know, I'm not a psychologist.
To just imagine MariLu eating pussy as good as she sucks cock, makes my balls quiver in delight.
Here is my fantasy match up. MariLu and Yessenia.
[QUOTE=Mugroso]I spoke with Marilu once about other chicas and she was very much against it. Even to have another in the room didn't appeal to her. I have heard that those who fear or hate homosexuals tend to have their own tendencies. I don't know, I'm not a psychologist.
To just imagine MariLu eating pussy as good as she sucks cock, makes my balls quiver in delight.
Here is my fantasy match up. MariLu and Yessenia.[/QUOTE]My friend and I have tried repeatedly to get MariLu in a foursome,or a ffm, and she will not do it. Que una lastima.BTW, has anyone been with Suki lately? Last I saw her was at Casa Colorado in April. She is , IMHO, one hot ****.
Suki, or Magdalena (her real name), formerly of Phoenix AZ, had transfered her skills at Queens. She told me that she could make more money at Queens with less amount of work than at Casa Colorada. That was a couple of months ago. I don't know if she is still there.
i just returned from a 11 day stay by the border. had a decent time but was there for other things (some house hunting). this is just some short observations on it all.
first off edgar at the farmacia doesn't have the big blue specials that i was "advertizing" anymore and his 100mg is at 12us. it was 9 & change with the free 50mg strapped to the box but no more.
the sports book, i was happy to find as it weighs heavily in my relocation decision, pulls their numbers from vegas. the parlay cards have a low end payout w/ a 6 teamer (for example) paying 40 to 1. 52 to 1 here at home for me. federal tax is taken out at the time of payout on your bets. a $55 1 team bet would return $105 here in vegas. same in juarez but after "tax" it's 103.99. interesting. hope the us doesn't figure that one out.
mugroso - you couldn't be more right about las palmeros and my friend isella. that place is getting scary to keep your eyes open in. and she has become a royal pain in the ass. i still have fun clowning & bullshitting with her and i'll still take willie out for her to play with (warm ups) at the bar now & then but i'll either have "something to do" & have to leave or it'll be at the end of the nite. i really had no desire to spend much time there. i walk in the door and they immediately let her know. hell, one time a chica went upstairs to wake her up! horseshit. her daughter doesn't bother me at all for anything. just some conversation - no pressure - and she's starting to look a bit hagarded anyway. they do have a tall & lean dance chica there (chastity) who seems to get wild at times. deep throating a beer bottle and peeking it up her snatch while at the bar. but overall - getting scary. like i told manny after noticing the chica drinks went up to 55mx. prices go up and the girls get wider. after watching two of them "dancing" at the same time i wonder about the structural integrity of the stage. glad they were out of step. the resonating frequency might've leveled the joint.
on another day i grabbed a room at the plaza on ugarte (i think it is) for 170mx to have a rest spot if needed. 1st stop was laura's at about 6:30. 1 little chica outside followed me in. mary was her name and couldn't been 95 lbs soaking wet. claimed to be 23 with 3 kids. looked 17. tiny little titties with big round nips. fairly cute in a "kid" sort of way. went for 40us and no rush. i just love having a little cutie like that licking my nutsack & bare shaft with a big smile on her face. anyway - that was a satisfyingly tight & warm fuck. wouldn't mind that again. perhaps with one of her friends. went back friday and it was dead again. there was an older girl - 30ish perhaps with a guy at the end of the bar. nicely built and that "sophisticated" hispanic woman look to her. attractive woman.
wandered over to virgina's and the smell of the grill outside made me go in for a beer, a break, and a wait for the food. watched one girl who reminded me of marilou. i only saw her once or twice at queen's a year or so back so i wasn't sure and only remembered people here wondering where she went. saw a few guys upstairs and figured i shoot some stick and rest from mary at laura's. met the dj kid cristian & we shot a few games of pool. while lining up my 8ball in the corner suddenly this blue sequenced g-string covered pus_sy sits itself on top of the pocket. i look up and sure as shit - marilou. what an active & wet tongue she has. we just played around with the touchy, squeezy, feely, kissy-licky crap while she soaked me for a few drinks. she is a wild one. and what a nicely shaped tummy she has. just how i like it. 7 kids? good lord. btw - the dj kid said 9. that's a job i would've loved to have at 17. spin some tunes, have some drinks, watch all that puss dancing, shoot pool all nite and, as he claims, tag some here and there. viva la mexico!
hit cleopatra's somewhere in the week hoping that big-tittied claudia was there. i love having a tittie in my mouth and my shaft in hers. not there so ended with joanna as has been advertised here. after her rub & hand play she climbed up on her hands and knees. i told her no - she can climb on from there. i just stayed on my back - sometimes active, sometimes not - and let her ride my viagra plugged shaft until she could take no more. after she laid on top resting her sweat-soaked body for a bit she started again. and again. the v holds me off so i just let her ride the pony anyway she wanted with a smile on my face. i got my hour's worth. so did she. i think she would be a blast on a full size play area.
took my load with me and stared to wander over towards the laura's area hoping for a mary repeat. by the gym some broad with a song promised me a "real good time". some skank named patricia. americana (where's my logic?). she looked better in the dark of the corner. at the room i was ready to walk out - even apologizing on the way - she was that bad. "unless you want to just blow me...". "sure!". no condom and took it all. every drop. not a bad job at all. she's done it before - i could tell. cheap & skanky but a good thorough, long, slow & deep suck. she seemed to like being made to gag on a throatful. i should've waited but by the time i hit that corner i had to drop a nut quick. yes - i am ashamed of myself for my lack of patience.
somewhere down the line i remembered something about a midget. i figured for shits & giggles why not but i couldn't find her.
not too much other stuff that's worth mentioning. most of the time was spent drinking beer, eating, spending mx money - trying to learn it, hitting the sports book, etc. feeling it, as they say. only went every other day or so as my plans were made around the house-hunt thing. that held me over 3 or 4 days more than planned. ran into my old food server chica from a while back. we spent a little time wandering in the cathedral area where the fire was and just talking and enjoying the latter part of the afternoon. tried to hook up twice but i couldn't work it out with my other things - one of which were zona plans. the other time i was 3 hours late from dealing with a realtor. shame. she's a sweetie. next time for sure. she was a nice one in a todo la noche way.
went to kentucky club for the first time during the week. had a few beers and some chow. not bad. i like that joint. it's just a normal bar with great service. went back last friday and it was a madhouse. shoulder to shoulder with normal people.
also on friday i dropped into las palmeros for a coke and a quick adios. some dude was on stage bare-ass naked doing a bump & grind from behind with a chica.
anyway - hope you all had a good thanksgiving. i might be back out there in a couple of weeks on a house hunt possibly with a laptop (need to buy one). if so, i'll be sure to drop a line here to try and meet some fellow mongers.
and no - i'm not a bald guy...
[QUOTE=Cienega32]And no - I'm not a bald guy...[/QUOTE]
Well I am glad to hear that.
As for Laura's, I haven't been there in years. It has more to do with a dislike for Chato. I used to go to the old Laura's when it was located in front of The Cave. The low life would hit me up for quarters to play pool. Imagine that, a bar owner begging for quarters to play his own pool table. I see this guy as the old fashioned pimp. Its funny, the 2 guys I don't like in all of Mexico work on the same block.
You should have gone for MariLu. I am off my MariLu kick, I still recommend her to any one that wants to get the nastys out. You were correct about the old blonde at Virginias. There are 2 old ladies there. There used to be a 3rd. She was an all around round lady. But it has been quite a while since I've seen her.
Anyways, drop us locals a line before your next visit.
Mugroso
[QUOTE=Sun Devil]Suki, or Magdalena (her real name), formerly of Phoenix AZ, has transfered her skills at Queens. She told me that she could make more money at Queens with less amount of work than at Casa Colorada. That was a couple of months ago. I don't know if she is still there.[/QUOTE]She was nice, she originally left Queens ( in April) with my Ex-Number Two to go to CC.What goes around...and I'm still mourning the loss of wild hair Letty.
Was strolling down near Laura's one late afternoon and happened to see a chick - brown hair (not black), 30ish, not slim, but not gorda - but most of all, had big brown very sensitive eyes. She was conversing with amiga and I stopped nearby pretending to take a rock out of my shoe. I was not looking for any action right then but I could kick myself for not speaking up a little. Anyway, I think her name was Andie or Andrea - don't know for sure. Any help here? Long shot, but those eyes went right through me.
One more - about 6 mos. ago, I was in Casa Colorado. Took a lady to the room and her name was Letty or Leticia. She was 30ish, on the slim side and had a beautiful patch of black hair right smack on her pussy. Anyway, went back about 3 wks ago and ask for Letty. No one there knew her. I know they come and go - but she was a mature type, no druggie, and was amiable with conversation prior to the room. She was conservative using her tongue, but I enjoyed her. Any help here???
PW
[QUOTE=Mugroso]..snip......
As for Laura's, I haven't been there in years. It has more to do with a dislike for Chato. I used to go to the old Laura's when it was located in front of The Cave. The low life would hit me up for quarters to play pool. Imagine that, a bar owner begging for quarters to play his own pool table. .........snip.....
Mugroso[/QUOTE]
That's bad.
I have played pool with Chito, and girls there many times and never had that problem.
Once I had no quarters, the house had no quarters, so the girl sticks her cue stick in beside the side pocket, the balls come rolling out. Free pool when they want it.
[QUOTE=Mugroso]
You should have gone for MariLu. I am off my MariLu kick, I still recommend her to any one that wants to get the nastys out. You were correct about the old blonde at Virginias. There are 2 old ladies there. There used to be a 3rd. She was an all around round lady. But it has been quite a while since I've seen her.
Anyways, drop us locals a line before your next visit.
Mugroso[/QUOTE]
I get a kick out of the older, little woman. Cost a buck to listen - cost a buck not too. Otherwise the guilt sneaks in. She's a harmless, nice little old broad so why not.
By the time MariLu plopped it on the corner pocket I was already filled with food & beer and wasn't really into anything other than how it played out. Little time lapse in the tale. I had gone back last Friday but didn't see her so just hung loose at the bar bullshitting with Gloria I think her name is. Older bartender. The curly redheaded chick that sits door at times was cool as well. The first nite when I ate off the grill they had potatoes and I was looking for butter. "I know what you want". "Do you, now..." I slyly replied. 5 minutes later she reappears with whole stick of butter. I've gotten a whole new & better impression of the joint since my last trip there.
[QUOTE=Pecker Will]One more - about 6 mos. ago, I was in Casa Colorado. Took a lady to the room and her name was Letty or Leticia. She was 30ish, on the slim side and had a beautiful patch of black hair right smack on her pussy. Anyway, went back about 3 wks ago and ask for Letty. No one there knew her. I know they come and go - but she was a mature type, no druggie, and was amiable with conversation prior to the room. She was conservative using her tongue, but I enjoyed her. Any help here???
PW[/QUOTE]I don't know who you talked to, but they were definitely bullshitting you. Lety lives down in Chihuahua and takes the bus up to Juarez when she needs money. She was at the Casa Colorado back in mid-September and said she would be back there again in October. My last visit there was about mid-October but she wasn't there. It's just a hit or miss situation trying to figure out when she works.
She'll probably be there sometime in December getting money for the upcoming holiday, but she usually heads back about a week before Christmas.
I'm planning on going to the Casa Colorado either this Saturday or the next and will give you an update.
Zuzax
Cienega,
I know exactly what you mean about feeling obligated to help out that little old broad at Virginias. I must confess I even kind of enjoy talking to her about how much the zona has changed through the years. In a earlier post you mentioned that you discovered the Juarez Sports Book. Betting on sports and the ponies is my other guilty pleasure in life. Luckily about 6 months ago the Caliente Sports Book entered the market offering a far superior product. IMHO the Juarez Sports Book is simply one of the worse run sportsbook operations in the world and its not just because they are always taking games off the board and off the parlay cards but they also wont hesitate to cut you off if you get on a roll playing the ponies and get up near $1000 they will beligerently tell you thats all. I was in there the other day and they had the parlay cards behind the counter and a regular customer asked them politely to put out the parlay cards and Yvonne the manager told the guy "ah shut up asshole". I just thought I'd warn you in advance about that mickey mouse operation. Fortunately you'll be able to give Caliente a try they are just next to the S-mart at Plaza de las Americas across from the Pronaf. In addition to Caliente there is another outfit called Uno that is scheduled to open up in a few weeks downtown in the former Planet Rock disco right next to the bridge.
heard you guys mention the place. I had it confused with El Horizonte and was wondering where it is. Thanks in advance.
A.D.
P.S. had a girl named Carolina at Loryeds, not bad for 25. Pretty much let me do anything that I wanted short of anal, which is pretty bad ass for the price. She always wears her hair in pigtails to look younger than she is, but she's pushing 30 and is cute despite a few extra pounds. Still a nice provider.
Also stopped into Masajes Michelle tonight, they have the 2 girls for 50 and the selection was OK, but I couldn't stay.
Went down Saturday night and gave M&M a try. I didn't like it. Heres why. The waiter takes my order and comes back with my soda and charges me 3 bucks. I smelled a big fat hairy rat so I keep my eye on. He slips his right hand down to his pocket and hands the money to the cashier with his left. He chingered me. He helped himself to a dollar tip.
Here is another trick I have heard about that they play in TJ and I have seen on rare occasions in Juarez. You hand the waiter a 10 or a 20 and he walks off and turns around and says you gave him a dollar. I fell for this once bigtime.
As far as the chicas go, there were a couple of hotties exept for one old hag.
Adrian from the burrito stands tells me he is not allowed to sell there because they are not mentioned on my site. I am not sure how true this may be but if they do get much of a mention it won't be a good one, not until they clean up their act.
Mugroso
It has been getting cold out there guys. One thing I hate is a cold room to get naked with a chica, especially a massage. I remember a while back some MPs had no heat or the used a space heater in the rooms but they would not turn it on until the room was in use.
My most recent experience was at Marilyns last winter. But this last time I was there it was warm, so no complaints. Also Cleopatras was nice and cozy.
Queens has got to have the coldest rooms ever. The best you can hope for is to get a room with a window to the interior of the club.
I'm just sensitive to the cold guys. I hate it. Anyone else have a cold experience?
I will be heading down Friday and will investigate further as to who is hot and who is not.
The Filthy (icy) One
ChoCho Dan - Yeah - I kind of brushed her off in the beginning and went curbside for some chow. When I came back my inner-self pulled out a buck and stuffed it in her hand. She seems harmless and non-"offensive". SHe just likes to talk to someone it seems.
On most of my trips the book would be either closed or, for me, out of season (NFL) so I never checked it. I went in one day and looked. Last trip I intended to utilize the joint. I struck up a chat w/ someone and he told me the same thing about Caliente. Better parlay odds as well. But like I said we have a joint or two here in Vegas that tout some crap payouts as well. I did notice a lot of X'd games the last week I was there. Guess the weather must scare them. It'll never compete with the Stardust book but it'll do in a pinch. I was lucky enough to get the same writer every time there. He spoke English and had a good demeanor. The place is a bit of a shithole but it works. I'll have to try the other side of the tracks next time out.
I told a betting buddy of mine about how my Monday nite (NE at KC) went when he asked:
"Hmmm. I bet the game & the first half, went around the corner & got a massage, blowjob and watched some cute little Mexican chick ride me for almost an hour, went back watched some more of the game, bet the 2nd half, went around the other block got another blowjob, watched more football, ate some good food and then went back to the hotel with more cash than when I left - how was YOUR Monday nite?" His only answer was "Fu*k you..."
Guess he bet the wrong side. :p
[QUOTE=Adam Duritz]heard you guys mention the place. I had it confused with El Horizonte and was wondering where it is. Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]
Las Palmeras is on the left hand side at the end of Mariscal St. this side of 16 de Septiembre. Warning, don't go past 16 September past sunset. Even this guy is scared to venture that far.
The Filthy (chicken) One
The Special 2 for $50 at Michelles is BS. One girl will give you CBJ then exit and another will then finish you off with FS. Not what they make it out to be. Selection there has been down in the dumps as of late also,
[QUOTE=Mugroso]It has been getting cold out there guys. One thing I hate is a cold room to get naked with a chica, especially a massage. I remember a while back some MPs had no heat or the used a space heater in the rooms but they would not turn it on until the room was in use.
My most recent experience was at Marilyns last winter. But this last time I was there it was warm, so no complaints. Also Cleopatras was nice and cozy.
Queens has got to have the coldest rooms ever. The best you can hope for is to get a room with a window to the interior of the club.
I'm just sensitive to the cold guys. I hate it. Anyone else have a cold experience?
I will be heading down Friday and will investigate further as to who is hot and who is not.
The Filthy (icy) One[/QUOTE]Belying the places name, Panama was the coldest room I have ever been in ,short of that little flea bag hotel near the gym.So cold the girl (the lovely Becky) wouldn't take her freakin COAT off! which led to a not so happy scene later.I'll never go back there when it's below 60 degrees out.
I read on Dallas Morning News and the Houston Chronicle that a chica was found murdered at Guatemala and Hermanos Escobar on Friday.Approx 22-27 yo. El Paso Times had nothing about it. Everytime I see these things, I worry about the girls I know there. Anyone have an update, or a repudiation of the story? The Pronaf has been getting really rough lately, and this is a very bad thing.
[QUOTE=RearWindow]I read on Dallas Morning News and the Houston Chronicle that a chica was found murdered at Guatemala and Hermanos Escobar on Friday.Approx 22-27 yo. El Paso Times had nothing about it. Everytime I see these things, I worry about the girls I know there. Anyone have an update, or a repudiation of the story? The Pronaf has been getting really rough lately, and this is a very bad thing.[/QUOTE]Yeah I saw it on the news the other day. I remember thinking if she was one that worked in the bars/ MP's or what. I didn't catch the full story though.
Try this. Go to [url]www.diario.com.mx[/url] Type in search (buscar) keyword, Casanova. It will be the articles dated the 5th, and 6th of December. The article has a photo. She worked in a bar called Casanova. I never heard of it, so likely it is just a neighborhood bar, but I could be wrong.
[QUOTE=Bolongo]Yeah I saw it on the news the other day. I remember thinking if she was one that worked in the bars/ MP's or what. I didn't catch the full story though.[/QUOTE]
I know that the holiday season is an "off" time for a lot of the regular chicas in town (from what I've read here).
Does this imply that the town is dead or do enough of them stay?
Is there an influx of "newbies" trying to capitalize on the openings?
Does the town become overrun with skankism?
When do the girls seem to get back to town?
I was going to get back sometime in the next couple of weeks but Vegas is having their 100 year celebration party and I don't want to miss it. After that for sure, but my curious questions are still there.
[QUOTE=Cienega32]I know that the holiday season is an "off" time for a lot of the regular chicas in town (from what I've read here).
Does this imply that the town is dead or do enough of them stay?
Is there an influx of "newbies" trying to capitalize on the openings?
Does the town become overrun with skankism?
When do the girls seem to get back to town?
I was going to get back sometime in the next couple of weeks but Vegas is having their 100 year celebration party and I don't want to miss it. After that for sure, but my curious questions are still there.[/QUOTE]
I wouldn't say Juarez dies for the holidays. But in years past I have seen chicas disappear and others appear to earn some holiday cash. The "newbies" or "temps" are not that bad. Some get addicted to the money and stay. I wouldn't necessarily call them skanks, you could look for some quality chica. The ones that do leave usually return from January 6 to Febuary. I am not sure what orthodox Christmas has to do with it but a friend of mine used that date as a benchmark. I his memory I use it.
Now this friend of mine who has since passed away had experience dating back to the 60s. He told me that back then, if a client complained about service, the girl would be beaten. I'm glad times have changed.
But back to the holidays. From what I observed last Friday the only thing missing were the crowds of customers. The evening was not bad. My latest addition, Angela, was very cute, personable, and a firecracker in bed. Great pics poser too. Oh yeah, and nipples like Flintstone vitamins, chewable.
The Filthy One
I was in Juarez last year Dec 28-30, and it was tranquillo by all other comparisons. Could'nt find any of my favoritas, except the MP girls.The bar girls are pretty much gone, unless they have nowhere to go.The rest of the choices were ok, but not what/who I hoped for.My buddy went to TJ in October, and he was told that ALL the quality girls leave during the holiday season. Being late December thru early January. .Juarez is about the same ,irrc. Streetwalkers were more abundant then,however.
Are the coupons still good at Marilyns? Where is best Pharmarcy for prescriptions in general?
Thanks
Coupons are still good at Marilyn's. At least, they were as of a week ago. I went to a the second pharmacy on the right-hand side of the street after corssing the Santa Fe bridge and got 96 amoxicilina capsules for a bit over $10. Amoxicilin is a general-purpose antibiotic that's handy to have when you get an infection and don't want to bother with the "Dr.-prescription-pharmacy" route in the US. The guy spoke excellent English, helped me consolidate the pills from two bottles into one to enable easier concealment on the way back. I didn't price shop, however.
Clomonger - that sounds like Edgar at National. If so, he's a real nice guy w/ a good understanding of pharmacuticals. I always stop and shoot the shit with him every time I go even if I don't shop. One time he had a few sales on with general pharms; 3 bottles=better price, etc. I ended up with about 20 or 25 bottles of various "household meds". I'm not sure but I think I may have given him the idea back then about consolidating the meds for the walk back. At the time I didn't know what was allowed at the border and I was stuffing them here and there in my touristo bags. 6 bottles was easier to "conceal" than 25.
Customs has no problem with us bringing back the basic antibiotics and things along that line. And they'll let you bring back what would appear to be a normal amount. I think it's a 90 day supply or a 1 year - can't remember. The controlled narcotics are a problem and that list changes from time to time. Somacid is a recent example. Great stuff that helped my lower back pain but a real popular abuse drug in America. Edgar had to pull them off the shelf by "request". But in general, they don't want you to set up shop in America with the stuff from Mexico. And some people do. We had a store or two in Vegas that got busted for selling MX drugs to the neighborhood. Normal stuff like Amoxicillan. Things that saved people doctor bills.
National (Edgar's joint) is a basic (Mexican) non-prescription store and, for the most part, anything you can buy there you can bring back. Of course in America where you need an HMO, referral to a specialist, and prescriptions for some overpriced crap to cure a hangnail - EVERYTHING is a prescription. There're some good reasons for that but with a little intelligent on-line research about the drugs you may need, one can be safe regarding interactions, reactions, etc.
When they ask what you're bringing back just state some basic antibiotics (if that's what they are) and they'll look to make sure. I'll tell them what each item is & I've never had them open a bottle. I'm always ready to explain that "I don't have health insurance and blah, blah, blah..." just in case but I think they're more concerned with Somacids and controlled items like that.
I went to the Casa Colorado/Sans Souci Friday night and found the selection of girls to be disappointing. December has usually been a good month for a lot of the better looking girls to come out and work, but it looks like times have changed a little bit. It seems like all the not so thin girls that were working in October were the only ones working Friday night.
Business was also really slow. Even if someone came in, they'd drink one beer and then leave. I wonder if the quality of the girls had anything to do with that? Maybe someone should mention to Ricardo that he should try recruiting some different girls.
For PeckerWill. I talked with Lety and she said she'll be working until December 23rd and then return to work sometime in January.
Zuzax
I've always enjoyed a Mexican dog and the 2AM side show at the top end of Ave Juarez before crossing back to the USA. Always a few rude & drunk loud mouth kids thinking they run the show being tossed into a "dog catcher truck" in front of one of the "college kid discos" by the Santa Fe bridge. Welcome to Mexico, gringo. Damn near became a riot one time I was coming back.
[url]http://www.lcsun-news.com/artman/publish/article_11391.shtml[/url]
Is this late nite entertainment of mine going to be a thing of the past?
Its been a long while since I went to Juarez with a boner and the intent on getting laid and not getting any.
In the afternoon I went to Venus Massage and had Alejandra, the cornrow chica. Hot chica but she is really hung up on herself and tries hard to upsell. That is a negative in my book. She said she loves to suck then fuck but for 20 bucks extra. I said no and just let her give me a hand job. The reason I opted for the handjob was if a chica really likes to suck and fuck she should do as she pleases. Experience has taught me how to deal with attitude. So I denied her the suck and fuck she loves. Guys, stick to your guns, not your nuts. This is part one of my Saturday.
Part 2. Met up with Clydesdale. Poor little Diana #2 was awaiting his arrival as was I. She wanted me to call him but I told her I would send him an email today and laughed. She wasn't working and Clydesdale was a little late and I was considering taking her myself. She told me she was going to walk a friend home and come back. So I headed to Queens and guess who walks up. Talk about being a day late and a dollar short. She was long gone and never came back.
We went for burritos at Adrians burrito stand. For those that don't know Adrians Burrito stand is on Mariscal street just around the corner from burrito row on Ignacio Mejia. Excellent as always. We hooked up there with Adrian's cousin and headed off for sport. Noche y Dia was unusually good, lots of hotties. I eyed one little cutie at the same time cousin nudged me and said she was cute. He pointed to the chica I was eyeing. Cousin is a nice guy and doesn't monger much so I stepped aside and called cutie over. Her name was Sandy and is as cute as can be. They really hit it off. Clydsdale and I excused ourselves and headed out to check for more action and left the 2 alone.
We cruised around and Clydesdale found his honey for the evening so I went off to fend for myself. By this time it was late. I went to Queens and thought I'd give Alexandra a spin. She wanted 80 but settled at 50 but started to give me this spew about the ticket to go upstairs and a bunch of other nonsense. So I left and looked for Marisela. Gone. It was even later now. I was walking around like a chicken with its head cut off looking for pussy. Guys, it just didn't happen for me last night.
Part 3 to the story will go down tonight. I still have a boner. Its Sunday so maybe I will get a deal.
The Filthy (horny) One
Rather than a new post, here is part 3 attached to the original.
I returned Sunday evening and walked the neighborhood. Pretty slow but hey, it was Sunday, I didn't expect much, just a wet hole. I thought I'd give Noche y Dia a try but the hotties from the night before were not there so I left. I wound up at Año Nuevo and Minnie was so cute sitting there. I took her up and had a fantastic time. I will spare you the gruesome details but it was great. I was cured, for the moment. It was so hot with her, I had another boner today just thinking about the night before.
Mugroso
Hey all,
Just got back in the area from an extended Uncle Sam sponsored vacation and a question came to mind as i was catching up on the board. Does one need a prescription to purchase Viagra, Cialis, Levitra or their generic equivalents in Juarez? Where are the best pharmacies to buy them?
[QUOTE=Amuzeme]Hey all,
Just got back in the area from an extended Uncle Sam sponsored vacation and a question came to mind as i was catching up on the board. Does one need a prescription to purchase Viagra, Cialis, Levitra or their generic equivalents in Juarez? Where are the best pharmacies to buy them?[/QUOTE]In line with this is Edgar at National on Ave. Juarez?
Those are over the counter - no prescription needed. I don't know if there's any difference between the pharmacies. I recently got some flu meds that would have cost a $75 doctor visit and $40 for the pills for $4.50 over the counter there.
[QUOTE=Amuzeme]Hey all,
Just got back in the area from an extended Uncle Sam sponsored vacation and a question came to mind as i was catching up on the board. Does one need a prescription to purchase Viagra, Cialis, Levitra or their generic equivalents in Juarez? Where are the best pharmacies to buy them?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Clydesdale]Those are over the counter - no prescription needed.[/QUOTE]
But they are not O-T-C in the US so if you want to (legally) bring any back into the US you will need a prescription from a doctor in the US (land of the free).
Ragman
I don't get to Juarez as often as I'd like - but recently circumstances have allowed some recent visits. Here's the kicker - I had the best FU*K the other day at Genesis with an 18 year old named Brenda. Went back the next day and she had quit. She was so sweet and we moved in sync the entire session. She was a little humored and confused initially at my low-keyed slow approach but she got into it - and as I said, we were moving in sync. Very hot and a real GFE.
Did one of you guys subsidize her? Did you run off with her? Life just isn't fair sometimes.
I remember several years ago having a 17 yr old at Laura's (beautiful thing) thinking I was in for a real sweet treat. No such thing. Young and beautiful does not always translate into hot sex.
But with Brenda, I was stupified. She was my dream come true. Where or where did my little chica go??? As I said, life is not fair.
Pecker Will (and maybe Pecker Won't)
Here's a good link regarding the prescription drugs:
[url]http://www.customs.ustreas.gov/xp/cgov/travel/alerts/medication_drugs.xml[/url]
I think the main objective at the turnstiles is to prevent the "abusable" items as I've yet to have a problem with the general household antibiotics that merit a script in the States. I've declared them when I cross but as I mentioned earlier - in reasonable amounts.
I would think that the "enhancers" might/could be considered an abusable med based on the guidelines for dispensing them (heart/BP related problems, etc.) and the reason that most monger-type people take them, which in most of our cases, is not how they were intended.
FWIW - I've never been in the position to openly need to declare the enhancers either here or in TJ. Such a big box for such a little pill.
I do have a decent little supply here at home but only because - well damn it - they're just fun to have handy!
Cienega32, good post about the "dog catcher truck" on Juarez Ave.
I spent every Saturday night for about 3 months hitting those clubs on Juarex Ave and I was always amazed with the number of fights, and the number of American and some Mexican kids gettng thrown into the dog cage for a trip to the Mexican jail. Almost surreal. The more I think about it, in all my wondering around Juarez this is probably the most dangerous area and unlike anything else in Juarez, or Mexico City, or Tijuana, or the South Side of Chicago, or Cali Columbia or anything.
I'm talking about the ten block area South of Juarez Ave after crossing the Santa Fe bridge, plus the near side streets around Hollywood and Queens, etc, on the weekends.
You have admit this is a weird area. Where else do you have 2000 (I want to be a gangster) American kids walking over to an area to get drunk and fight. Where else do you have 15 clubs playing gangster rap/hiphop and nothing else. Seriously, I don't know of another area with such a high percentage of kids (wanting to be gangsters) and wanting to start fights. These are not real gangsters of course, but in some ways they are more dangerous because they are looking to show off in front of their friends how tough they are. They are not money motivated, but simply acting like idiots. Then you have some real Juarez kids who show up to flaunt their tough guy skills as well. Then you have some experienced older opportunists looking to make a buck off all the chaos. And, of course the Juarez police who instead of patrolling the streets would rather a stabbing occur so they can take some kids to jail. In some ways it is funny, how the police simply watch until a hardcore fight breaks out, then decide to make the arrests.
I personally walked the Juarez streets late at night often because my girlfriend lived a few miles southeast from the Santa Fe bridge. I only had a problem once. I was across from the Cave at 2:00 AM on Juarez Ave on a Saturday night and was jumped my 10 street rats. Only time in my life I've had any thing like this happen. Maybe I was wearing the wrong color, or they thought I was someone else, I don't know. In my opinion they just wanted to kick the crap out of someone. They picked wrong guy, as I broke a few kids heads open pretty bad. Still I lost a few teeth. The whole thing was completely absurd and I can't believe it happened to me. If it can happen to me it can happen to anyone. Trust me.
Back to Juarez Ave late on the weekends. I should have been more careful due to the number of fights I witnessed-- some really bad. I saw one black kid getting his head banged in on the Santa Fe bridge one night-- he might have died. Everyone was walking by and not even trying to stop it. Crazy. Still, it is easy to let your guarddown because there are a number of young women walking around so it just doesn't seem very dangerous.
Bottom line, be careful here guys. I still think this is a cool city, but be careful walking Juarez Ave big time.
I'm sure some of you disagree which is fine. I won't respond. I just want guys to have fun and not get hurt. Hopefully this city confronts the violence and cleans it up.
It sounds like the best thing to do is get a taxi after you go across bridge and go to MP or maybe clubs, I am new out here, haven't had chance to go yet, but what you write concerns me about walking down Ave. Juarez!
Good post New Bound. It's funny - I feel more apprehension those last few blocks on the way back to the bridge (and sometimes ON the bridge) than I do further down or on Mariscal. Mainly for those reasons that you had. Seems to me that the "nite-punks" are out to make an impression on somebody even if it's only themselves and their self-preceived glory.
One nite by the Cave (I think) I watched a few gringo kids talking thru the screen of the truck. "Don't worry - you ain't going anywhere. WE'll get you out". When the female driver came over and they started talking to her, no less than 6 other Policia got in the middle, moved the female away a bit, and 1 drove into the dark streets of the city with the occupants. The overall impression I had from the other kids was that they thought of it as if their buddy(s) was in the custody of a Burger King security guard.
I refuse to use the word "gangster" in today's world. Gangsters are well dressed and are low-key business orientated. GangstA is even above some of the mentality in most of kids anywhere - not just in Juarez.
Maybe it's just me, but it feels that the further away from the American kiddie crowd I go the more secure I feel about my environment. Not less suspicious but a bit more at ease.
I see the same thing here in Vegas. The kiddie tourists come in and get drunk and it becomes an instant contest of who can be more stupid. Some blame the 24 hour aspect of life here and I guess the chica factor and collision of culture can be blamed there but to me, at 52 years of age, it just seems like a blatant disregard for "someone else's neighborhood". No respect in their young throw-away world. Like partying at someone else's house when their parents are out of town. No sense of responsibility, no concept of accountability.
And as great as our country is in so many aspects, the justice system sucks. It's, for the most part, laughable. There are no lessons to be learned. Across the border you act like an asshole it costs you. There's good and bad in both but I think the purpose is to teach action and reaction; crime & punishment. It's hard to learn to take responsibility for your actions when there is no consequence of any proportion. Besides - you're sure to sound cool when you brag about being in a Mexican jail...
I've always thought it was interesting with most of the bars and their "NO CHOLOS" signs. I think it's a great idea on a broadscale. I don't know if it works or not but it sounds good. But the common denominator seems to be "irresponsible drunks" equate to stupid people.
Oh oh. I better stop. I feel a full blown manifesto covering the breakdown of sociey coming on...
Hello,
I just moved to Albuquerque from San Diego and am looking for the equivalent of Adelitas and Chicago Club(in TJ) to visit in Juarez. Also is there a designated "zona roja" like the zona norte in TJ?
Where is the prime streetwalker scene in Juarez and is it close to the border?
I was in CJ about 8 yrs ago and remember a club Panama? is it still there? Also the taxi drivers took me for "a ride", I think I coughed up about $30 to the cabby to haul me to some of the clubs.
Thanks,
SD Gaucho
Most of the clubs are close to the border, a block west of Ave Juarez on Mariscal. There's plenty of SWs a block west of Mariscal but a lot of them aren't really women.
There's plenty of information if you search the forum.
[QUOTE=SD Gaucho]Hello,
I just moved to Albuquerque from San Diego and am looking for the equivalent of Adelitas and Chicago Club(in TJ) to visit in Juarez. Also is there a designated "zona roja" like the zona norte in TJ?
Where is the prime streetwalker scene in Juarez and is it close to the border?
I was in CJ about 8 yrs ago and remember a club Panama? is it still there? Also the taxi drivers took me for "a ride", I think I coughed up about $30 to the cabby to haul me to some of the clubs.
Thanks,
SD Gaucho[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Desert Don]It sounds like the best thing to do is get a taxi after you go across bridge and go to MP or maybe clubs, I am new out here, haven't had chance to go yet, but what you write concerns me about walking down Ave. Juarez![/QUOTE]
It's not as bad as it sounds. Even New Bound said he couldn't believe it happened to him and he had a girlfriend there.
When you walk over the Santa Fe bridge you're immediately met with a bunch of clubs that cater to the college age gringos who seem to still define success as who has more fuzz on their nuts or who has a better chance of being in a Snoop Dogg Chicks Gone Wild video. Mix that with 18 years and up boozing, pretty chicas & bar pigs from both sides and a local crowd who is still checking the fuzz on THEIR nuts and it can get volatile. These clubs think that American rap is the money making music of the day (I wonder why) and that fuels these wanna-be street thugs into a Ron Artest frenzy. Same thing on this side in some of the "big city" clubs when the black & hispanic gang mentalities clash and their respective "cultural realities" are challenged. Except here (US) "rounds per magazine" is the gold of the day.
When I see the crowds outside the bar doors around 2AM I try to steer clear of them. I don't want to get caught up in whatever their situation is and I don't want to be perceived as a participant. Even if the 25+year difference doesn't make it obvious. The Policia can swoop down out of nowhere like chickenhawks on a busted coop.
I did go into one or two of those clubs "just to see it" and it struck me as a Spring Break type of atmosphere where the drunker you are, the better you are. Not my cup of tea. Give me the "quiet" little bars with a row of pretty little "non-Americanized" chicas with their unassuming smiles that I barely understand when they talk & I'm a happy man.
If you go back thru enough threads here you'll come away with the impression that just going about your "business" in a respectful, non-macho man manner would work. Sadly, the events that New Bound experienced can & do happen for no reason other than "you were there" but not on a regular basis that I know. I've yet to see anything other than the problems spilling out from these "college bars" close to the bridge. If you talk to the turnstile officers when you come back they pretty much say the same thing about the kids and those first few bars being a major headache. They don't get the fact that it's not a game at the dorm house.
Myself, I look at it as I would any other city - keep a third eye in the back of head and don't stand out with your actions. Of course in Juarez you need to respect the fact that you're in another country. The "I'm an American - you can't touch me!" philosophy doesn't work anywhere anymore.
I can't comment on the "new town" side of Juarez. I always go to the Santa Fe bridge "old town" side of the tracks. It's a beautiful place &, for many, an acquired taste to go but just like anywhere else, shit can happen that you don't plan on.
Luxxor put in a new room with a dance pole, disco ball light, and a couple of couches. That looks like something worth trying.
Vanessa is a girl worth trying - very nice body, smooth flat stomach, small breasts, and a shapely butt. She's quite pleasant, and by 2 minutes into the massage I've forgotten all about the massage. I went there looking for the girl Adam Duritz recommended, but wasn't disappointed.
I went down last night to give a tour for an out of town boss of a friend. Picky little fellow but I guess he had a new experience. But that is not the highlight of the evening.
We stopped by Adrians burritos because friend is a cousin of Adrian. I was full but boss liked the burritos. Adrian has since painted the place and cleaned things up a bit. He may as well make his business image as good as his burritos. I wonder how much gringo business he lost from the previous appearance. But that isn't the highlight of the evening either.
Long story short we wound up at Queens. Marisela was there but seemed to disappear. Someone must have taken her out. Yessenia got up to dance and did her thing in a little french maid outfit. Not my favorite outfit of hers but still hot. She wore white stockings. I'm nuts for stockings. If you want to see me fuck a pig, put stocking on it.
After her set I ran up to her and asked the price of the evening. I agreed but only if I could take pics for the website. It was hell taking pics, I had a boner and just had to jump them bones. Well I got a few snapped off and dove in. Very passionate lady. She seemed a bit reserved to a point. She is something else.
Mug
[QUOTE=SD Gaucho] Also is there a designated "zona roja" like the zona norte in TJ?
Where is the prime streetwalker scene in Juarez and is it close to the border?
I was in CJ about 8 yrs ago and remember a club Panama? is it still there? [/QUOTE]
No "official" Zona but an unofficial one. But the great thing about CJ is there is sex available all over town. There are lots of massage parlors, which I prefer to the whole downtown Zona scene. Much more laid back, less expensive too. Good if you are not a night owl, they open and close early relative to the action in the Zona.
Lots of SW action downtown in the "Zona", basically the neighborhood west of Av. Juarez running south from the bridge to 16 de Septiembre. But look close, especially the hands and Adam's apple, if you know what I mean. Lots of chicos in the neighborhood and some of them will fool you. You don't want your Juanita to turn out to be a Juan, do you?? ;^) Not that it has ever happened to me. Mug, what was the name of that chico bar we walked past on Mariscal, I want to play a dirty trick on some amigos of mine next time I am down there.
To start planning the next Mongerpalooza that is. How about some time around Easter, say the saturday in between Good Friday and Easter Sunday. Both Good Friday and Easter Sunday are pretty slow, from a mongering standpoint that is, but the saturday in between is just another day. Either that or the weekend following Easter would also work.
Anybody interested in taking in the Bullfights on Easter Sunday??
[QUOTE=Dougie]Mug, what was the name of that chico bar we walked past on Mariscal, I want to play a dirty trick on some amigos of mine next time I am down there.[/QUOTE]
Dougie
Are you talking about the gay bar or where the trannys are? The gay bar is just past the Centro Lagunero but not past the old Montaña bar. That would be a great place to play the joke on your friends. Before I knew it was a gay bar I saw some hot "chicas" walking in to I followed. I went up the stairs and when the bar got to be about eye level I realized I was mistaken. No point in mentioning what I saw.
Mug
Hello Out there,
I am a former NMSU Grad, who triumfantly returned to Juarez this past week. I now live in NJ where yes, there are many *****s, but not like the Jtown *****s.
I had not been to the area since 2000, and yes, I did notice a substantial amount of Trannys walking around. I think back in 2000 there was only one or two places for that shit, but there are definatly more now.
I enjoyed my four nights back there, and it was definitly worth the trip.
Cheers to Juarez and its fabulous SW's.
************** Missing Ass Alert ******************
18 year old named Brenda, dark brown hair, dark brown eyes, about 5' 3", fair complexion, hint of dimples, two small "ear" rings on her right eyebrow, very sweet. Last seen 12/19/04 at Genesis, wearing - not a stitch. Has nice little patch between the legs, well-trimmed, sort of like a verticle mustache.
If anyone has information leading to the recovery of this chica, please PM me and ensure yourself receiving a six pack of Tecate.
This is the end of today's Missing Ass Alert.
PW :)
Can anyone give me any really, really good directions to this place on 16 de Septiembre, Masaje Luxor? I have the address in my car, but I cannot find the place. The only thing I have not done is park somewhere in the 15 hundredth block and walk around until I find it. Also, do they have any slender, attractive girls?
I'm really tired of my usual haunts and have 12 glorious days to hole up in my apartment for the holidays. Any MP news would be most welcome.
[QUOTE=Mugroso]I went down last night to give a tour for an out of town boss of a friend. Picky little fellow but I guess he had a new experience. But that is not the highlight of the evening.[/QUOTE]
I think it would be great to hear more about your experiences hauling these dudes around.
[QUOTE=DreamingEagle]Can anyone give me any really, really good directions to this place on 16 de Septiembre, Masaje Luxor? I have the address in my car, but I cannot find the place. The only thing I have not done is park somewhere in the 15 hundredth block and walk around until I find it. Also, do they have any slender, attractive girls?
I'm really tired of my usual haunts and have 12 glorious days to hole up in my apartment for the holidays. Any MP news would be most welcome.[/QUOTE]I'm not sure that my directions would be really, really good as I went there at night but here goes: Get on 16 de septiembre heading toward el centro from the Pronaf area. It is a one way street. Luxxor is on the left hand side around the area of the corner of Rep. El Salvador (among all of the Latin American country named streets). There is a very small parking lot in front of the place and a beauty shop next door whose name eludes me at the moment. You can pull in and park there.
A friend of mine spoke very highly of a session with Vanessa who was a most attractive, slender young lady from Zacatecas. She was the only one there when we went and my buddy was from out of town, so I did the only gracious thing and let him have her. I have been planning to go back ever since to satiate my own curiosity.
DE, please give us one of your customarily eloquent reports when you return (or sooner).
DE:
Luxxor is just east of Bolivia on 16 de Septiembre. If you know where Felina and Corpus are on Borunda, as I know you do, just go north until you hit 16 de Septiembre. Turn left and it will be on the left hand side of the road. Another landmark is that it is opposite from the big white mansion on 16th de Septiembre, the one just west of Juan Gabriel's house.
It used to be a barber shop until the current owners turned it into a massage parlor, hence one can get a pedicure or manicure at the place as well, which I have done in the past.
There are a number of slim girls in the place: Crystal, Vanessa, Claudia, Erica, Natalia. Hope this helps.
I am going to have to try this place. Its name seems to be plastered all over the place and have heard good reports on and offline. For a place to have one girl on duty and still have praises is on my list.
DE, as far as my tours go here are the stats. One is a poster here (name withheld) and another is a viewing member awaiting permission to post. I have had a few others. The guys I have met so far are some really great guys. One has done some extensive research on the bar and MP scene in Juarez. And I do mean extensive. He is a very inteligent fellow. In November I was unable to provide a tour because it was my birthday and a day tour was not possible. This guy is smart. He took the border trolley for 12.50usd. The trolley route takes you by several MPs. Some walking is required but it worked out great. Check out [url]www.borderjumper.com[/url], follow the route. You will be in reasonable distance to Venus I and II, Brendas, El Encanto, Sirenas, Luxxor, Cleopatra, lets see, what else have I missed. This saves the hassles of taxi and bus routes.
The tours are not as lucrative as I'd like. The pay portion is doing well. Much better than I had expected.
Mugroso
What gives Pecker. It has only been 4 days and she is gone already? What did you do to that poor girl? I hope she just didn't work to make Christmas cash. What do you mean by "recovery"?
Mugroso
[QUOTE=Pecker Will]************** Missing Ass Alert ******************
18 year old named Brenda, dark brown hair, dark brown eyes, about 5' 3", fair complexion, hint of dimples, two small "ear" rings on her right eyebrow, very sweet. Last seen 12/19/04 at Genesis, wearing - not a stitch. Has nice little patch between the legs, well-trimmed, sort of like a verticle mustache.
If anyone has information leading to the recovery of this chica, please PM me and ensure yourself receiving a six pack of Tecate.
This is the end of today's Missing Ass Alert.
PW :)[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Amuzeme]Hey all,
Just got back in the area from an extended Uncle Sam sponsored vacation and a question came to mind as i was catching up on the board. Does one need a prescription to purchase Viagra, Cialis, Levitra or their generic equivalents in Juarez? Where are the best pharmacies to buy them?[/QUOTE]You're much better off buying Viagra, Cialis and Levitra through RX-MEX.NET from your home computer. They have a really good rep. I've bought both their generic Viagra and generic Cialis (NO doctor's fees and NO script needed) and both worked great, however I like the Cialis better as it lasts longer in your system (up to 36 hours). They also have generic Levitra as well, though I've never used it. Depending on the quantity you buy, costs around $3 (U.S.) per pill or so (about 75 - 80% off the brand name). I've been a customer for almost 2 years and never had a problem. keep in mind that it takes about 2 weeks or so to be delivered. Hope this helps!
[QUOTE=Sun Devil]DE:
There are a number of slim girls in the place: Crystal, Vanessa, Claudia, Erica, Natalia. Hope this helps.[/QUOTE]Is that the same Claudia who use to work at Cleopatria's?
Very petite, native looking, about 20 yo?
I missed her after she left Cleo's.
[QUOTE=Pecker Will]************** Missing Ass Alert ******************
18 year old named Brenda, dark brown hair, dark brown eyes, about 5' 3", fair complexion, hint of dimples, two small "ear" rings on her right eyebrow, very sweet. Last seen 12/19/04 at Genesis, wearing - not a stitch. Has nice little patch between the legs, well-trimmed, sort of like a verticle mustache.
If anyone has information leading to the recovery of this chica, please PM me and ensure yourself receiving a six pack of Tecate.
This is the end of today's Missing Ass Alert.
PW :)[/QUOTE]I don't know if you remember, Pecker, but you hooked me up with Lola, who gave me an experience I'll remember untill I kick off!!
So for helping me out I will keep my eyes open, but she sounds like my type too, and you know after I've seen her she'll be ruined for all other men.
[QUOTE=Sun Devil]DE:
Luxxor is just east of Bolivia on 16 de Septiembre. If you know where Felina and Corpus are on Borunda, as I know you do, just go north until you hit 16 de Septiembre. Turn left and it will be on the left hand side of the road. Another landmark is that it is opposite from the big white mansion on 16th de Septiembre, the one just west of Juan Gabriel's house.
It used to be a barber shop until the current owners turned it into a massage parlor, hence one can get a pedicure or manicure at the place as well, which I have done in the past.
There are a number of slim girls in the place: Crystal, Vanessa, Claudia, Erica, Natalia. Hope this helps.[/QUOTE]
I must be going blind because this is exactly where I was looking, but I was looking for a house, not an ex-barber shop.
[QUOTE=Gallo Ingles]I'm not sure that my directions would be really, really good as I went there at night but here goes: Get on 16 de septiembre heading toward el centro from the Pronaf area. It is a one way street. Luxxor is on the left hand side around the area of the corner of Rep. El Salvador (among all of the Latin American country named streets). There is a very small parking lot in front of the place and a beauty shop next door whose name eludes me at the moment. You can pull in and park there.
DE, please give us one of your customarily eloquent reports when you return (or sooner).[/QUOTE]
Thanks to you both for the directions. I will definitely check it out this coming weekend.
I haven't had time to post because I have been too busy with [url]www.worldcountries.info[/url] to even look up, and, besides, I don't really have anything to contribute in the way of anything not already posted here. I don't go downtown, and the MPs are all here. I haven't even been to Sirena's in four weeks, and I get it for free there twice a month if I want it. I probably need to lighten up a little and have some fun for a change...:)
Good to see you haven't been kidnapped or warse DE. Mugroso and I were talking the other night and were concerned. Hope you have a very good holiday season over there in Juarez this weekend.
[QUOTE=Desert Don]In line with this is Edgar at National on Ave. Juarez?[/QUOTE]
Don't know if this was responded to or not but yes - Edgar is at National on Ave Juarez. The first one from the bridge. I say that as sometimes he can be found at the other National further down the street.
[QUOTE=Coyote79]Is that the same Claudia who use to work at Cleopatria's?
Very petite, native looking, about 20 yo?
I missed her after she left Cleo's.[/QUOTE]
No, the Claudia at Luxxor is of medium height, fair complexion, and fairly slim of built. She told me that she is 22 years old.
Okay, Coyote79, help me out here - or anyone else. I had the whole world one day, and the next day nothing - she's gone. She set the bar much higher than its ever been before - and I never expected that from an 18 year old - maybe a 19 year old, but no, not an 18 year old. And go ahead and give me some more details on Lola. PM me or post it here. I'd like to know but it doesn't surprise me. She'll be returning from out of town early next year (2005).
And, Mugroso, it wasn't what I did to the poor gal, it's what she did to me. She was really in sync. I usually have a difficult time popping the cork sometimes - but with Brenda, I nearly popped 4 times until I couldn't stand it any longer.
Let's fess up - who took her away???
Full recovery means in her arms again (and I'll take it from there). The six pack of Tecate has been raised to include a bottle of Suiza Tequilla de Mexico.
You can't beat a year end deal like this.
PW
You might try Venus or Venus II. Those are the places where she worked before going to Genesis. Good luck in your search.
I feel your pain. I too have lost some favorite providers for various reasons: quitting the business either permanently or temporarily, going to other cities (i.e. Tijuana) to work, or finding husbands or boyfriends. For some of these girls this is a seasonal business, one in which they can work for a few months and then rest for the rest of the year.
I too have suffered the pain of losing a good masajista. I am not talking about sex here. Her name was Perla and she worked at Paraiso about 5 or so years ago, maybe more.
She gave the most excellent and professional massage. She never tried to get me horny so she could "crank out another one". She gave me a good firm handed massage and then with her finger tips lightly danced on my skin. She would then flip me over and massage the front (still professionally) and move up to my face and worked that too and at some point gave my feet some attention. I would be so relaxed.
Then in the same manner with her finger tips danced on my balls. It was a shame to feel so relaxed then get horny and have sex.
She moved on to open her own massage parlor but that soon shut down and I never knew why.
Then one day I ran into her at the Paraiso and she explained that she was caught smuggling across the border and did a year or so in a U.S. prison. She was pregnant when I saw her and she said she would be back to work soon. I never saw her after that.
When I knew her, she wore glasses and had that Mexican red hair. Dyed I'm sure.
Ever since then I have yet to recieve a comparable massage from anyone. Great sex, yes. But not the massage which may come as a shock to some to hear me say that.
The Filthy (longing for a good massage) One
Thanks for the nice comments. Which leads me to point out two radically different and opposing views of life and love:
1. Tis better to have love and lost than to have never loved at all (Shakespear? or Alfred E. Neuman?)
2. He who loves loses. (Author unknown - at least to me)
Go ahead, take a poll here. Who votes for 1 and who votes for 2.
PW
Well number 1 is of course the best of the two, the only problem here is someone chasing a Mexcian ***** and calling it love is disfunctional, but there are different types of love, some normal and healthy and some which are not!
[QUOTE=Pecker Will]Thanks for the nice comments. Which leads me to point out two radically different and opposing views of life and love:
1. Tis better to have love and lost than to have never loved at all (Shakespear? or Alfred E. Neuman?)
2. He who loves loses. (Author unknown - at least to me)
Go ahead, take a poll here. Who votes for 1 and who votes for 2.
PW[/QUOTE] Love is two minutes fifty two seconds of squishing noises. It shows your mind isn't clicking right.-Johnny Rotten
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Why do we waste $35 in Juarez when we could pay 100X that for some uptight snob b**** right here in the US?
[QUOTE=Pecker Will]Thanks for the nice comments. Which leads me to point out two radically different and opposing views of life and love:
1. Tis better to have love and lost than to have never loved at all (Shakespear? or Alfred E. Neuman?)
2. He who loves loses. (Author unknown - at least to me)
Go ahead, take a poll here. Who votes for 1 and who votes for 2.
PW[/QUOTE]
This response assumes you mean the romantic one-to-one kind of love leading to marriage and lasting commitment.
Given a stark choice, it would have to be #1 in favor of having known love, partially so one will know what all the poetry is about but primarily so one can avoid it at all costs in the future.
That said, there are all kinds of love, and in pre-mongering days --- back when I was still young and attractive enough a beautiful woman in the U.S. might still want me as a lover --- I don't think I ever had a relationship with any woman I didn't love on some level. It certainly deepened the experience, and most of them still write from time to time. I never lied to them about wanting to remain single, or even faithful. I can even love a favorita in a massage parlor as a sweet kid and great time in the sack. There are all kinds of love...
On the great mongering issue of the ages about falling in love with a provider, in most cases it's foolish wishful thinking, especially if there is hint of drugs involved in her life or a great age difference. Then, on the other hand, there are exceptions. My first GF in Mexico was a provider, and she came home every night like clockwork. When I would not marry her, she married another guy, because she wanted out. She never went back and is faithful to him. So it all depends, but it doesn't, as a rule, seem to ever work out.