Is Panama the same as Colombia or Peru to meet non-pros?
Hello guys,
It seems to me that Panama is quite a paradise to meet non-pros either in the streets or by internet. Of course it would be much easier if you can speak a bit of Spanish....
For what I have read here it seems that Panama is better than Buenos Aires to meet non-pros.
Is Panama better than Lima or some others cities in Colombia????
I know Lima, Lima is great and Bogota and some other cities in Colombia seem to be the same...
One drawback seems to me that there are more American retired or just toursits in Panama than in Colombia or in Peru. Yes there are many tourists in Lima, but they usually stay just a few days, what is perfect for us.....
Any point of vue would be read with pleasure....
Thanks in advance guys
Panama City After Action Report
Hotels, Travel, Safety, Food
I chose to stay at the Marriott even though there was a mixed bag of comments here about it being girl friendly. MY OFFICIAL FINDING IS THAT IT IS GIRL FRIENDLY. They do copy the girls passport if you come in and the lobby is not busy. They did not have a problem with me bringing two girls in at once. They did not have a problem with a girl arriving independently at 4:45 AM to see me after she got done at Life Girls. I would try to be discrete during the day and early evening hours as you go through the lobby as most of the visitors are not here for solely a mongering vacation. Another easy option for getting girls in your room here is to bring them in through the Royal Casino. It is attached to the hotel and there are stairs directly to the Mezzanine level of the hotel. I did this several times and was never stopped by anyone asking me to take the girl to the lobby for an ID check. I also watched other mongers taking the same route. None of the girls had any issue about going to the Marriott based on its security.
The Marriott location is excellent. It is one block away from Via Espana and most of the action. It is not as noisy as some hotels closer to the main street. I like the comforts of an American brand hotel. I have traveled all over Europe and some in the Middle East and have stayed in local brands. Even in some very upscale local hotels. They cannot compare to the standard of a Marriott. The girls also found the room very enjoyable and liked being able to take the toiletries and candies. The other part of staying at a better quality hotel is that I cannot monger all day long. I need the creature comforts they provide.
Probably the best hotel in terms of location would be the Continental. It is right on Via Espana and is attached to the Crown Casino. If you are looking for ease of access to chicas this is the place. Not sure what the room pricing is here. Another American hotel in a good location would be the Crowne Plaza. A new hotel called the Venito just opened on the same street as the Oasis. It is very glitzy and has a real upscale casino. They had rooms for $100. The El Panama is also in the heart of it all. It has the most amazing pool, bar and restaurant set up. Also the home of Coco’s bar. I was at the Hotel Montreal. It is a short walk or taxi ride from the main action. Very reasonable and there are some girls who have rooms there.
The safety of Panama City for me was very impressive. I walked the streets alone at 4:00 AM many nights without any fear. There are very few places in the US I would do this. Even when the taxis took us to the out of the way Capri I did not feel nervous. During the day I walked a lot and went into some areas where I would probably not go at night. I was the only gringo there. Basically doing the stroll around the main casinos, the street girl hang outs, Oasis, Life Girls, Habano’s, Coco’s and a number of other bars is completely safe. Le Palace is also in the area and an easy walk.
The first time you try to cross Via Espana in traffic only do it with a Panamanian at your side. This is one of the craziest streets I have ever seen. Thank God it is only one way. It took a number of attempts to get comfortable with this. The traffic lights are few and far between and there is only one overhead pedestrian bridge in the area.
There is one interesting law that appears to be in place that must have a severe penalty. No one disobeys it. An available taxi must blow their horn at any gringo or chica walking down the street. Even if you wave off the first taxi all following taxis must blow their horn to let you know they are available. This leads to a never ending round of horns blowing. It gets a little annoying
Sunday is a very quiet day in the city. This would have been a good day to go the Canal or some other tourist actions. Some of the stores are open. I got in too late Saturday too arrange any chica company and ended up at Oasis later in the day for some relief. Not much SW action either. It was a good day to explore and get the lay of the land. On my next trip I would either arrive on a Sunday or a few days in advance so I could make some arrangement.
Food is good and reasonable. I usually ate breakfast at my hotel and a light lunch on the streets. Dinner with a couple of beers was usually around $10 at the local restaurants. I talked about many in my daily reports. It was very enjoyable to have dinner on many of the patios and watch the traffic. Next time I would get a little later start in the evening. Nothing really gets going till 10 PM at the earliest.
Getting to Panama from major hubs like Atlanta, Miami and Houston is under a 4 hour flight. You can do it on many familiar carriers like American, Continental or Delta. There are some local carriers as well. The taxi from the airport is $20 plus. All other taxi fare is under $5 around the city. Usually only a couple of bucks.
Panama City After Action Report
Misc. Advice
One thing that has not been commented on here much is dress. I did find this on some other boards. MAJOR RULE: DO NOT WEAR SHORTS AT NIGHT TO THE CLUBS. You stand out like a real tourist. Most of the people do not wear shorts here even in the heat of the day. I did wear shorts in some of my walks and it was OK. But I definitely attracted a lot more attention as a tourist from the touts and street vendors. Apparently another national law is that taxi drivers who see a gringo in shorts must yell out and ask if you want to go to get a massage. Jeans with a nice shirt at night are fine. Just stay away from athletic shoes. You can’t go wrong with khakis.
The other discussion that helped me in advance was money. I do not like to wear a money belt nor did I feel the need to. I kept my spare money, extra credit cards and passport in the safe in my room. On my nights out I took an AmEx, Visa and a paper copy of my passport. In one pocket I kept $20s. These were used for paying at the chica bars and casinos. In my other pocket were $5s and $1s. It was always better to pull these out for taxis, tips and other cash transactions. I could claim that this was all the money I had. There is no need to flash around a lot of cash here. Bargain to a price and pay discretely. Don’t bring $50s and $100s. This is not Las Vegas. It will only cause problems when going to pay with them. If you want to bring large bills for ease of travel then change them at the hotels or banks. The ATMs here do not charge any additional fees so they are another good source for cash.
Getting around with very limited Spanish was relatively easy. There was absolutely no issues in bars and hotels. The ability to order in restaurants varied but I never was limited in my selections or got any surprises. Most of the girls had some English so we could chat a little. The basic words for conducting a transaction were always there. THAT BEING SAID MY NUMBER ONE COMMITMENT IS TO IMPROVE MY SPANISH SPEAKING ABILITY. As I said I really enjoy having a few drinks with the girls and relaxing before sex. This would have been really enhanced had my Spanish been better. The few times I called girls on the phone it was very difficult to get the point across as there was no sign language involved. (Almost forgot, I would also buy a local cell phone next time). With my growing addiction to Latin women and my desire to travel to other countries Spanish is a necessity. Also I firmly believe that when you are in America at least try to speak English, when you are in a Spanish speaking country at least try to speak Spanish. A little effort will go a long way with the locals.
Panama City After Action Report
This Board and Fellow Mongers
The adage of RTFF before you go is right on the money. The details may not be on the first page but they are here. If you are serious about going to Panama City you will find everything you need in the Panama section. You may have to go back a few posts but it is here. While everyone’s impressions and preferences are different, the basic facts posted here are accurate. They were most helpful in prioritizing where to go. If you have specific questions go ahead and post them. I received several PMs which added clarity to the reports.
Also, finding another monger in town to share your experiences really makes the trip more enjoyable. Get together at least once. If it doesn’t look like its going to work then you don’t need to do it again. Spidermonkey and I made our connection through this board and set things up by PM. We ended up starting each night off together but would split up when it made sense based on the chica situation.
Spidermonkey is a seasoned monger even though he only has regular membership on this board. He has traveled to a couple of other countries before joining ISG. Definitely worth hooking up with him. If nothing else to watch his amazing willpower when approached by a chica. I have a few years on him and it was a real challenge to keep up with his stamina.
Last lesson learned: When asked by Customs on the way out for the purpose of your visit do not say “Sucky sucky no condom.”
Panama City After Action Report
Chicas 2
One good piece of advice I had received was to bring my own condoms. The girls use cheap local ones and are not comfortable. One place wanted to charge $3 extra for a condom. Bring the ones you are most comfortable with at home. One caution goes to lubricated condoms. The standard in Panama was CBJ. You need to negotiate for BBBJ. In some places you might not be successful. If you are wearing a lubricated condom the girls will rub it off before they start. They don’t enjoy the taste either and that may affect the quality. If you can bring some non lubricated or flavored condoms as well you can always swap them before the final deed.
I do enjoy DATY but was reluctant to engage in this with any of the street girls, even though most of them seemed to have pretty good hygiene. Girls from the clubs and massage parlors receive regular check ups and are less likely to have any problems. The Life Girls get theirs on Tuesday morning so if you want to be absolutely sure of cleanliness I would take a girl out of there on Tuesday night.
There should be a contest sponsored by this board over who can obtain the first actual sighting of pubic hair. I did not see anything but completely shaved girls the entire trip. I discussed this with a few and most believe that it is sexier to be totally shaved. I usually prefer a little landing strip.
Overall I had a real positive experience with the girls in Panama City. It may be less costly to go to some other destinations but the ease of getting there along with the safety made it a great first choice. I had two real GFE experiences where I would be happy to establish regular visits. Several of the other girls gave me their contact information and I would certainly do them again, but my main focus on this trip was getting a wide variety. I also got a lot of recommendations from the girls on where to go in Colombia. They were not interested in sending me to their hometowns but to where I would have the most fun. This was also my first experience with a significant number of latin girls. I am afraid that I may be on the beginning of an addiction. They are passionate in their life and in the sack. And there is nothing like watching them dance.
Panama City After Action Report
Chicas 1
My trip to Panama City was my first solo mongering vacation. My previous adventures had been part of international business trips. I had done a lot of research on this board and others. Panama City came to the top of the list for a lot of reasons, easy travel, safety, English speaking ability and availability of chicas (not necessarily in this order)
Details of my individual adventures were posted previously. I am trying to use this report to summarize my trip and provide my opinions some advice. Everybody has different preferences. I am also an American and express my opinions from that point of view.
First to the subject of chicas which is the main focus of the board. There are a wide variety of types of places to get girls. Strip clubs, brothels, massage parlors, casinos, nightclubs, and on the street. There are also escort services, but I did not sample any of these. Also, the majority of girls seemed to be Colombian. Of the 13 different girls I was with only 3 were Panamanian. This was not thru any pre selection on my part. It just seems that the general population of available girls is made up of more Colombians. This is not a bad thing either as the majority of the girls were very enjoyable in the sack.
I sampled three massage parlors: Oasis, Golden Times and the River Club in order of preference. In general I did not really like this type of experience as I prefer a little more of a relationship with the girls. However the girl at Oasis was the most friendly during the experience. The room was OK and had a mirror on the ceiling. The quality and sheer number of girls at Golden Times is a real plus. They are probably close to the quality of girls at the high end strip clubs. But all are silicone enhanced. The River Club was absolutely the low end of my visit. In general the massage parlors were good for a release when necessary but not somewhere to spend a lot of time. After the first couple of days I was not in need of any additional release so I stopped exploring the massage parlors. They are probably the only viable option for day time action unless you make arrangements with a girl from the previous night.
There are a variety of strip clubs which offer full service. I was in Life Girls, Miami and Le Palace. I did not take a girl in Le Palace. Both Life Girls and Miami offer service inside and out. I really enjoyed the set up and feel at Life Girls. From the outside it does not look like much. The bar itself has a number of individual tables and a stage. In my two visits there were a lot of attractive girls and they were not overly pushy. Girls drinks were reasonable but be careful to know what your ongoing drink tab is. Miami was similar but the couch set up was not as accommodating. Also the girls did not seem as outgoing, but once you made a connection it was a lot of fun. In both of these places the girls all wear identical sexy outfits each night. In general I like these places because I like to have a few drinks and little conversation before getting to the deed.
A couple of comments on Le Palace. This is clearly the high end of Panama City. I did not visit Elite but I understand it is similar. My trip to Le Palace was with a girl I took out of Miami. This allowed me to just sit and observe. The girls also wear identical sexy outfits here. Think of this place as a high end strip club in New York, Atlanta or Dallas, though nowhere near as large. Also there is not a constant stream of dancing. The girls here are fantastic. They are 9s and 10s, model material. A lot of guys are put down on this board for taking girls out of here. Total cost with drinks could be well over $400. There is no on site service. If your fantasy is to go to a high end strip club and end up in bed with an outstanding girl then go ahead and make the investment here. This was nagging in my head each night after my visit. The only thing that prevented me from doing this was that I knew that I could get girls nearly as attractive at a fraction of the price elsewhere. It just took a little more effort. If you ended up here on your first night in Panama it would be hard to say no.
The only brothel like place I visited was Capri. There was a very large selection of girls here in wide range of types and levels. The girls also wore identical outfits each night. There is a stage for dancing and some of the girls were actually quite good. I even saw a magical clown perform here one night (I think). You can sit with the girls and have a few reasonable drinks, but the emphasis is on short term sex in the compound in the back. Both of my experiences in the rooms here were disappointing, although the time spent out front was enjoyable.
There is wide variety of places to meet independent girls. The two bars I was in were Coco’s at El Panama and Habano’s across from the Marriott. Coco’s is much more a traditional night club, but was real hit or miss for finding any action. The only sure time would be on Friday and Saturday nights. I just looked for any girls sitting alone and made my introductions and the conversation flowed from there. There are definitely non-pro girls in here so you may strike the wrong chord by moving to a sex discussion too soon. Habano’s is a little bar across from the Marriott. It is behind a cigar shop and has a little patio. This is basically a hang out for the girls in between strolls. They are pretty aggressive in here. A real mix of quality and levels. A very easy place to go and grab a girl.
The casinos are another place where the girls hang out. The most girls can be found on a regular basis in the Crown Casino attached to the Continental Hotel. Next would be the Royal Casino attached to the Marriott. I did see some in the Fiesta Casino and a few in the Venito. Usually these girls can be seen hanging around the penny slots or at the bar. They are not in to spending a lot of money here. In most cases the girls that were here are just on another break from the stroll. I did not really see a difference in the level of girl here. I know I overpaid on my first night when I spent $100 on a girl at the Royal Casino. By the end of the trip I had two girls at once out of the Crown Casino for $80. Usually I got these girls for $50. In all of the casinos you have to approach the girls first. They will not approach you. However eye contact and a smile as you are walking will happen and is a sure sign.
I usually do not take girls off the street but they were a pleasant surprise here. As I mentioned earlier the casino girls and Habanos girls are just streetwalkers taking a load off. I did smile and talk to a number of girls on the street. There is a large concentration of them around the parking lot in front of the Continental Hotel and across the street in the lot near life girls. A lot of mention has been made about girls hanging around the McDonalds on the corner across from the Crown Casino. I only saw a few here and most were hanging near the phone. The days of the McSlut are gone. In general the girls on the street were way better looking than I expected. There were only a few chunky ones and not many that were ugly. This really surprised me. There is also a wide variety of skin color. From the very light to the very dark. One note is that I rarely saw any girls out during the day. The action gets going around 10 PM and really picks up much later.
None of the girls I took out of the casinos or bars were in a rush. They enjoyed sitting around for a drink in my room before the action and most would have stayed longer if I did not hint for them to leave. I found this type of action more enjoyable than the massage parlors.
Will be in panama city from 12/5-12/11th
Dude,
This will be my most daring venture out the states yet. I have hit the DR and Curacao before...now it's time to check out Panama!
If anyone is going to be down, please hit me up. I don't know squat about Panama, but I have read all of the posts.
I will be taking some photos and I will try to report at least a few times while I am there. Look for my reports.
-Funk