This is China. Do the math. I haven't found any girls who will fuck during their period. Knock off 7 days. Leaves 23 days a month to generate the 50, 000. 2173 a day. Maybe. Be careful what you believe when in China.
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This is China. Do the math. I haven't found any girls who will fuck during their period. Knock off 7 days. Leaves 23 days a month to generate the 50, 000. 2173 a day. Maybe. Be careful what you believe when in China.
[QUOTE=Chris Peterson; 1422245]Spent a month here 4 years ago. I know the info is a little old, but still want to give back to the forum as some members are wanting to see me give rathern than just take before they give me access to their knowledge.
I found the hotel to be a good value, I had a deal through Agoda for 40 dollars US per night and would call this place a 4 star. There seemed to be a lot of action in the street right behind the hotel. A handfull of BBS places and a few upscale saunas. I was on a budget so only did the BBS places and had hit or miss experiences, but found one super sexy light skinned petite but with ample boobs at one of these paces and she gave great full service. I repeated several times.
Also, whenever I walked in the hotel, there would be touts / pimps offering me girls, most of which were young and hot. For some reason I never took them up on their offer. In the hotel, I tried the sauna, went through the usual lockup my clothes in a locker, shower, robe, then sat down a dark room with plush leather chairs. I said I wanted to cut to the chase and get a massage. Only one girl showed up, and she looked fine, so I followed her to the room. She started giving me a regular massage (obviously she and the guy running the staff hadn't decided if I was just some regular guy looking for a massage at my hotel, or if I was there for some naughty business. I started to grope her and asked her to take off her clothes. She laughed a little and went straight to it. Decent full service. When I put my clothes back on, the manager gave me his business card and told me to call him if I wanted girls sent to my room. I never took him up on it. However, I noticed in the evenings there would be a girl in a blue dress with a hotel name card greeting people as they went to the elevator. She asked me if I'd like a massage in my room, I said sure, and she followed me to my room. When we got to the room, she wanted to do a HJ for like 600rmb. I was like no way, that's too expensive, for that price, she needs to take off her clothes and get buck wild. She kepy resisting saying "it's not a lot of money in your country". I kept saying, yes it is, and it's too much for a HJ. I bargained to her to to do the HJ with no clothes on. I got sick of arguing. She assured me she gave a very special HJ, so I sad fuck it, let's go. She did live up to her word, mainly by sticking her finger up my ass and expertly hitting the prostrate in just the right way and it made for a pretty intense climax. I wouldn't do it again at that price, but live and learn.[/QUOTE]Hello could you please tell me more about thi hotel. Where it is locate in shanghai (street name). I can not find it in Shanghai through the hotel booking site of Shanghai.
Thanks
[QUOTE=Peter71; 1423437]Hello could you please tell me more about thi hotel. Where it is locate in shanghai (street name). I can not find it in Shanghai through the hotel booking site of Shanghai.
Thanks[/QUOTE]The hotel should be called Hengsheng Peninsula International.
[QUOTE=Fritobugger; 1423022]I have managed to get some decent lesbian action but it took a lot of trial and error. I now have a pair at a shabby sauna that do a great show but I have to arrange it with them directly well before I go and during off peak hours.
Good luck or go to Germany.[/QUOTE]Besides Germany, a closer possibility is Jakarta, Indonesia. While girl-on-girl action is also somewhat rare, it is possible. And, if you choose two girls, you'll almost always get a lively session where the two girls are both working on you at the same time. You certainly won't have a situation where one of the girls is passively sitting by bored or in another room.
Two hand job gals in the Jingan are tell me they are paid 5000 per month. One is hoping to get 10, 000 eventually. They live on site and work long hours, not going outside much. They imply that tips are rare as are laowei customers. Their shops charge 208 and 228 for oil massage. They could be telling me a lower figure to get sympathy and a higher tip.
From me.
BJ.
This is China. Do the math. I haven't found any girls who will fuck during their period. Knock off 7 days. Leaves 23 days a month to generate the 50, 000. 2173 a day. Maybe. Be careful what you believe when in China.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Beijing4987; 1423606]Two hand job gals in the Jingan are tell me they are paid 5000 per month. One is hoping to get 10, 000 eventually. They live on site and work long hours, not going outside much. They imply that tips are rare as are laowei customers. Their shops charge 208 and 228 for oil massage. They could be telling me a lower figure to get sympathy and a higher tip.
From me.
BJ.
This is China. Do the math. I haven't found any girls who will fuck during their period. Knock off 7 days. Leaves 23 days a month to generate the 50, 000. 2173 a day. Maybe. Be careful what you believe when in China.[/QUOTE][/QUOTE]OK-I forgot the "RED" days. I guess they just have to do more on their good days. Still sounds like a lot of money though and she is really going to be well used by the end of her "year". But, I guess you really can't wear it out-stretch it a bit maybe, but not wear it out!
[QUOTE=Waldeck2;1423424]This is China. Do the math. I haven't found any girls who will fuck during their period. Knock off 7 days. Leaves 23 days a month to generate the 50, 000. 2173 a day. Maybe. Be careful what you believe when in China.[/QUOTE]RMB 50, 000 is quite credible. Some of my regulars told me they get about 300 / client (excl. repeat bonus etc) and they serve about 7-10 per day. These girls are money machines during their prime when they work in popular saunas and are young etc. Problem is they can do it only for a while cause it is very tiring. Some girls use their time off to go shopping (Xujiahui is the usual place, even for Sacrosa girls who should have plenty of shops nearby) or travel to nearby places (Suzhou, Hangzhou). Their situation is a far cry from the BBS or SPA crowd, believe me. You do the math : the infamous English teachers make, what 10-20,000 ?
[QUOTE=MrClen; 1423216]Also, I know this doesn't bother some mongers, but I always have to wonder where I fall in their daily chain of servicing customers, and it is a bit off putting to know the girl you might like to DFK with just finished a few minutes ago doing BBBJCIM with who knows what! My POV only.
MrClen[/QUOTE]I have the same thought whenever I want to kiss the girl, but my concern is not so much BBBJCIM but the rimming part.
[quote=changlelu;1423628]rmb 50, 000 is quite credible. some of my regulars told me they get about 300 / client (excl. repeat bonus etc) and they serve about 7-10 per day. these girls are money machines during their prime when they work in popular saunas and are young etc. problem is they can do it only for a while cause it is very tiring. some girls use their time off to go shopping (xujiahui is the usual place, even for sacrosa girls who should have plenty of shops nearby) or travel to nearby places (suzhou, hangzhou). their situation is a far cry from the bbs or spa crowd, believe me. you do the math : the infamous english teachers make, what 10-20,000 ?[/quote]this also tells us what the places are bringing in! x girls x customers x entry fee x extras $$ = no wonder these places exist and thrive! and explains why they are not going to be shut down anytime in the near future, too many people are making too much money from them, above and beneath the table.
your other post: i don't know which would be worse, unless the girl was a rep001 eater-eeewwuh! i've not experienced rimming (at least not in a sauna) , so can't comment too much, but i understand that they clean and purify your nether regions before rimming. either way, either end, the thought turns me off. i personally do ktv girls mostly so my thought is that i could at least be the first for the day and maybe the first in several days. not a perfect thought or idea but it kind of clears the head and lets the little one do all the thinking and talking.
[QUOTE=Waldeck2;1423424]This is China. Do the math. I haven't found any girls who will fuck during their period. Knock off 7 days. Leaves 23 days a month to generate the 50, 000. 2173 a day. Maybe. Be careful what you believe when in China.[/QUOTE]50000 is rather on the high side and yes this is China so if one of the friends there in one month earned that much it becomes standard for all. This is China. LOL.
From my credible first hand experiences here is the math:
3 to 5 customers per day in average is possible and if they do not make it will cut loose any how. Typical daily range is 2 to 8, so the average fits. It used to be pretty standard 200 RMB per customer tat landed in the pockets of the girls, may have gone up a little now or in higher end places but I am not sure. They work at least 25 days a months, often they must proof to management they are really on the rag so this is more a minimum, usually they only take 2 to 4 days off (I know, better not think about it). They are in for the money, other than shopping not much use for spare time, you do not make too many friends while on this job other than a few colleagues.
So all in all 20 000 to 30 000 is a realistic figure in average. Superstars will get more, but as also said rightly before the more thye earn, the more they spend, so indeed it is not that easy get rich from it.
Hope that helps a little.
FA
50K RMB is on the high side. 30K is a more realistic figure which I have heard from various sauna ladies.
[QUOTE=Pcpc1688; 1419460]Go to Spring massage off Mao Ming Lu, $298 gets you a very pretty girl and what you seek in the end.
PC out[/QUOTE]Went twice to Spring massage, and was not able to get anything else than a miserable HJ. I used all my soft skills, fluent Chinese and incentives. Frustrating. Was offered to rub her tits for 100, get a boob-job for 300, nothing more. Just setting expectations that it would be quite hard and, in my opinion, wasted time / efforts, to insist for FS / BJ at that place. That said, maybe there are girls who perform better than others in that join? Mines were #31 and #32.
This is the place.
[QUOTE=Masslin;1420797]Thanks, a pic and a Chinese name of this place will be ok.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=FernandoAlonso; 1423766]50000 is rather on the high side and yes this is China so if one of the friends there in one month earned that much it becomes standard for all. This is China. LOL.
From my credible first hand experiences here is the math:
3 to 5 customers per day in average is possible and if they do not make it will cut loose any how. Typical daily range is 2 to 8, so the average fits. It used to be pretty standard 200 RMB per customer tat landed in the pockets of the girls, may have gone up a little now or in higher end places but I am not sure. They work at least 25 days a months, often they must proof to management they are really on the rag so this is more a minimum, usually they only take 2 to 4 days off (I know, better not think about it). They are in for the money, other than shopping not much use for spare time, you do not make too many friends while on this job other than a few colleagues.
So all in all 20 000 to 30 000 is a realistic figure in average. Superstars will get more, but as also said rightly before the more thye earn, the more they spend, so indeed it is not that easy get rich from it.
Hope that helps a little.
FA[/QUOTE]OK, off the money numbers for just a bit and on to some personal views. We all know that women are capable of multiple sessions per day and multiple orgasms. However, after 5 men per day for days on end, I just don't see how they can have any passion and it just becomes a mechanical act with a few fake moans to keep us interested. The mongers that say (brag?) she came three times, she was so hot, really wet (think lube) , into it, wanted me, etc, etc, May have delusions of grandeur and of their own prowess as stud of the hour (maybe two hour, after all it's a Sauna!). For me, (and this only my personal POV) , the only worthwhile experience, other than if you just have to get off, is a LT girl where perhaps and just maybe, you might brew a little chemistry with her. At least, for me, I can fool myself enough to where I don't feel that I am the next in line (yes, I know, it will still be a line, but at least not a waiting line). The idea that "my favorite girl was busy with another customer" and I had to wait for her to finish with his BBBJCIM, Rimming, FS, etc, so she can do me next, doesn't sound very exciting.
[QUOTE=Changlelu;1423630]I have the same thought whenever I want to kiss the girl, but my concern is not so much BBBJCIM but the rimming part.[/QUOTE]You have to face the fact that you are drinking from the toilet anyway. What I focus on is the industrial grade solvents they use to clean themselves between clients with. Some of it even tastes good.
I tend to give them the benefit of the doubt that they have properly cleaned themselves.