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I am not shy :-) I will gladly break in this new section with a two thumbs up review. Great location, great venue, well worth the short travel time from anywhere in Central Frankfurt. My visit was posted a couple of weeks ago and was one of my best experiences in Germany, after World, and PHG :-) The food is decent, the locker room is immaculate, as is are the saunas, showers/bathrooms and Kino area. Very nighlclub looking, Hi tech, and clean. Highly recommended from a very particular traveller.
Go see for yourselves,
Carnal1 (aka Lanrac)
The web site is www.the-palace.de
Very representitve of the operation.
Anybody know how to get there by public transportation from Frankfurt Hauptbanhof?
Minimus,
From the Hauptbahnhof go downstairs to tracks 101 and 102. Take any train for two stops to Hauptwache. Go upstairs and then go back downstairs to the U6/U7 line towards Heerstraße/Hausen. Again take any train as the two lines split after the stop you want. Get off the train at Industriehof, it is the first stop after you are no longer below ground. The club is at most a five minute walk from the train station. At the end of the platform turn left so that you walk across the tracks. Cross the street and turn right. You should now be walking along a tall stone wall. After around 50 feet there will be a break in the stone wall, this is Koenigsberger Strasse. The Palace is on the left side of the street just after a mobile food stand. Look for the sign Hinterhaus. I haven't been there since it was Paradies so things might have changed some but you should be able to find it easily. The whole trip should take less than half an hour from the Hbf.
Interesting first visit to Palace on Monday night late. I went there as Atlantis is unfortunately no longer available.
Firstly directions: it was dark, and pouring with rain, and I was driving. I know Frankfurt reasonably well. However, if you are going by car, you must be sure to follow the instructions on the website (www.the-palace.de ) very carefully, or better still, the simple German ones on the Kaleu site (http://www.kaleus-clubindex.de.vu/) (still listed as FKK Paradies), which is what I did. Otherwise you will possibly get very lost. It’s not an easy area with lots of one-way traps and not many people around to ask. The sign, when you turn into the right street, is well lit. Parking was no problem at all.
Maybe it was because it is the beginning of Easter week, and maybe because I arrived quite late at 12.30 am, but on entering there is not the buzz and party atmosphere that made Atlantis so exceptional. You certainly do not have to nudge your way through groups of gorgeous women talking to not so gorgeous men :-) to get to the bar, as I remember having to do last month at Atlantis, although the overall size is comparable. Everything is more spread out and set back against the walls, with the centre being the raised-level bar. It took a little while to orient myself properly.
The place is very clean. The locker room is spartan and functional, in fact without that much room, and the safes are clearly designed for Viagra packets, too small for a reasonable size wallet. Showers are better than most, but water was splashed everywhere, including cold pools under foot trailing back to the lockers. The main room is very spacious with nice sofas, tables with stools like at a café and swinging divans with cushions. I didn’t visit the sauna area at all. The cinema is the best I have yet seen at an FKK, with very comfortable mattresses on different levels. Very well conceived. There was a buffet included in the price, as are the soft drinks, saunas etc. I did not try the food, even though it was still available at the late hour. Prices are as reported EUR 65 for entry, EUR 50 for the standard number, anything else should really be negotiated beforehand.
The lighting was typically rather low, which made scouting a little hazardous. Some of the non-German women are quite aggressive, and as a result anything more than a furtive glance into the shadows to ascertain quality is likely to elicit an approach, which can be rather tiresome after a while. Certainly the slightest interest is acted upon immediately (a raised inquiring eyebrow was all that was necessary to get attention sometimes), and it was often only after the girl had jumped over the sofa back and wrapped her various limbs around you that you realized that she was perhaps not what you had hoped she might be. The quality that evening was not comparable with Atlantis on a good night, but as I said it may not be representative. Two or three 9s (magnificent 10 bodies, but slightly less magnificent faces), plenty of 6-8s of all body styles, including of course plenty of the typical fuller German model, and perhaps rather too many unemployed, aging, heavyweight dogs for my taste, I am afraid. Woof. There were to begin with probably about 30-35 girls of very varied nationality, and maybe 20-25 men. By 3 am the numbers had thinned considerably. So, even when discounting the barkers, there was never going to be any problem finding someone to your taste. As always it is well worth waiting a good while before making a choice, which means making pleasant excuses to the several pushy ones who will approach you.
I finally chose Helen from Hungary, who - a 9 without a shadow of a doubt - was by far the sexiest girl in the place that evening. Tall, medium to long frizzy blonde hair, perfect slim body badly concealed in a fetching red chiffon wrap, medium-sized natural breasts, mischievous but not really beautiful face. She’s probably aged about 20. She attracted attention and applause with an very graceful and lithe stint at the pole. She’s confident and knows what she’s got. One glance and the briefest of nods from me as she passed, and she joined me on the sofa in a trice. As I had already shown interest, the preliminaries were brief and to the point, but enough to register that her languages are good. We spoke German, but she told me English is no problem.
Helen led me off to the cinema. It is so nice there, that for the first time I was happy for the action to take place there rather than in a room. Performance was not great though. Slick, success-oriented but nevertheless efficient covered BJ followed at her option by missionary, where it was soon obvious that her only aim was to finish me off as quickly as possible. This is a girl who is friendly and cheerful enough, but quite clearly she has many customers, none of whom is more than a cash-bearing statistic. Eurosis is rapidly becoming a serious illness in central and eastern Europe, you know. OK, fair enough. Faced with this, my policy is to switch off any inclination to please the girl, simply to rein in the gymnastics and enjoy the body, ignoring the missing rapport. This is no problem, it’s a consumer society after all and we are all responsible for our own destinies. Even if – no exaggeration - she is urging you to come after about 45 seconds (“shpreetz meesh voll, Schatz” with a wacky Hungarian accent, oh yes she knows the jargon). What she doesn’t realize is that a fifty-year old has far less of a problem enjoying and holding out than he had when he was 25. After a while, as she realized she was going to have hang around a while, she cut out the urging and the faking, and we got into a much more organized rhythm. Because she is beautiful and compliant, and because I enjoyed roaming around her body curves immensely for the full half hour, you have to give her a generous 6 for performance. Afterwards at paytime (the standard EUR 50 for 30 mins), my ignoring with a blink and a stare her heavy hint for a tip hopefully gave the right market signal. What else can you do?
I then made a mistake. Not with my second choice, as it turned out, but I simply got manoeuvred into a second round too quickly. Joy from Thailand (but American father, and she has been in Germany for many years) was one of the pushy girls who will approach you on the sofas. But she is quite engaging and humorous about it. Short and slender, she is no more than a 6 in looks, but has a very appealing lower body. Breasts with very prominent chewy nipples have clearly seen a lot of use and better days. Pleasant but unexceptional face. We spoke German, but again I am sure English would be no problem. By the time of her third approach it was becoming a bit of a joke between us, but it paid off for her. This time she simply grinned and started DFK and BBBJ on the sofa, and to my surprise this had an immediate effect on me, although I’d only left the cinema about 20 minutes before. I warned her that there was no guarantee of great stamina, but she insisted it would be OK.
The rooms seem to be very good, and certainly the red-themed one Joy chose was very comfortable indeed. Everything seems to have been very well renovated. Well, it came as it had to come (or rather didn’t want to come). Every slight break in the action, whether to adjust the music, move a cushion or fish out a condom was enough to cause a good degree of wilt and sag, and full recovery measures had to be applied. But I must say it was all very pleasurable, she does a very expert BBBJ and showed great willing and commendable, no, amazing stamina (“Don’t worry, I am used to this problem”. “Oh, really? Why put bromide in the goulash at a place like this?” She didn’t get it). Occasionally we managed the odd unambitious but temporary position, but I am sure that she has a great variety of services to offer. She’s an experienced lady (please forgive me, it would have been a bad joke to have inquired about anal under the circumstances), but it was obvious it was going to be a successful blow-job or nothing. Of course this eventually threatens to lead to stress for both sides, and at several points I was on the verge of breaking off operations, but she simply would not give up. And in fact we eventually made it, to Joy’s great, er, joy. Resounding cheers from the participants, and a relief to both, in their different ways. She then cuddled up for a relaxing ten minutes chatting as we both recovered. She was perspiring profusely and checking her jaw-wiring carefully, but all was OK. We agreed mutually that half-an-hour definitely had become an hour, so she was paid a well-earned EUR 100. Anything less than top marks for performance would be churlish. When I am fitter, I would certainly like to try out what else she has to offer another time.
At the beginning I thought I was not going to like this club very much, but as it became more familiar it grew on me. You need luck with your choices of course, but I had a good time. So Palace really could be a very good alternative in central Frankfurt, as long as they can keep the quality of the girls up.
Toscana captured the feel of the place beautifully.
Here is my take:
I was at the Palace in late March. Got there at 3 pm, and the place was absolutely dead. Only 5 girls or so present. But the decor of the place is now the best I have ever seen. Just perfect! The light is bright enough to see, but dim enough for cozyness. So I disagree a bit with Toscana on this part. I found the light quite a bit brighter than Atlantis'.
Huge sofas and tons of pillows around. You get the feeling to be in some elaborate harem.
Since it was dead, I left after only one session, with Sasha, formerly of Atlantis. I came back at 7. Since I had told them I was going to be back, they gave me a piece of paper with a stamp, and I did not have to pay again.
At 7 pm, there were about 15 girls there, and only about 10 men. I like that ratio. A really great dinner buffet was set up with gold smoked salmon & trout, warm pasta, vegies, chicken breast, turkey cordon bleu, salad. Several sauces. Bread.
They have a coffee and juice bar, and also a soft drink and beer bar, the latter one in the middle of the big room. Really big bonus: no porn movies in the main room.
Absolutely great cinema room, though, with decent porn running.
My first evening session was with Helen, formerly also working at Atlantis. She is blond, slim, smallish rack, but very firm. She came over to show my that she had just put lotion on her boobs. Well, of course I had to test this. Since I already had had her a couple of times at Atlantis last year, I knew her already. And she is still the same high quality.
Then there was Lola, from Spain. She speaks almost no English or German. But somehow we manged to get the message across. She described to me the four kinds of massages she gives. That seemed like a lot of fun. And she turned out to be the best sesion of the day. She is a real pro, in the best sense of the word.
I had to take a rest and went to the big sofa in the corner that is suspended from the ceiling like a swing. Jessica joined me there. She was really pleasant to talk to, and I would have taken her up on her offer to go to "the room", but I needed an extended break. By the way, Jessica told me that the current Palace used to be an empty warehouse last year. It seems that Paradise was next door, but the Palace seems to be new and not exactly the place that Paradise was. I don't know if this is true; I never went to the Paradise.
I took a sauna and then went to the big warm whirlpool. Sitting in it, I noticed that the DJ was one of the working girls. Now picture this: the DJ position is at one end of the big central bar, towards the side of the whirlpool. I am sitting in this pool, and keep wathing as she boogies to the music she is selecting. She is about 15 feet away from me, with nobody else in view from my vantage point. Her only clothes are black leather boots, a see-through hankerchief-size scarf wrapped around her hips, and head phones. She notices me staring at her and smiles at me. After a while, she comes over and asks me if I want a drink. Sure! As she serves me my coke in the pool, she bends down, and right in front of my face her p..sy smiles at me. It is this kind of setup that you always dreamed about as a teenager, isn't it. By the way, her name is Luisa. (not her real name, as she admitted, but if you ask for Luisa, they all will know who you mean). She is a really friendly girl, with an easy smile.
OK, suddenly my need for rest was gone. I was ready for DJ Luisa. After the fact, my only regret is that I did not ask her to do it standing up in the DJ booth, with her bent over to select music and me banging her from behind. Maybe next time ...
By the way, I think that it is a waste of time to take the train. Just take a taxi from the main train station. You'll be there in less than 10 minutes, and it should only cost a few euros.
Euro and Toscanna,
Great posts from both of you. Granted, this place is not World, Atlantis, or Oase in the high volume of gorgeous girls BUT the venue and location surely help. I don't need to fuck 65 girls in one night, looking at 65 naked girls is nice. I found that the girls I met there were a slightly different breed than the ones at World. I think there must be a transortation factor for both the girls and the visitors. If its easy to get to for both the place has a great foundation for success.
I was only going to spend a few hours one afternoon before I headed to Oase BUT I got sidetracked by a few nice looking ladies. I was completely comfortable hanging in the main area, actually fell asleep on one of those large couches across from the main dance floor with the music booming and naked girls lying around me in evey kind of pose. I woke up every 15 minutes or so just to make sure I was not dreaming, the girls just watched me and smiled.
I vividly recall sitting in that spa, watching things go by, great scene.
N-joy,
Carnal1 aka Lanrac
Euro 100 and Toscana,
enjoyed your posts.
I was in FFM last week, turns out during a big trade show in the Messe. Wanted to check out the action at Palace after receiving many good reports.
Firstly, want to correct a previous post - it is very easy to drive to. From FRA get off the A5 at Westkreuz or Nordwestkreuz. The club is maybe 3-4 minutes from the highway. From the city, drive towards the Messe. Theodor Heuss Allee runs alongside the Messe (it's also the main entrance road into the city from Westkreuz). The road that runs parallel to that on its northern side becomes Ludwig Landmann strasse. drive on this for 3-4 minutes and it takes you to Konigsbergerstrasse. Turn right and 3 blocks down on the righthand side is Palace - which you can't miss from the street. They have taken over the warehouse that used to be in front, which explains the far larger premises. Total from city center(in off-peak times)10 minutes.
It is also an easy taxi drive from anywhere in the city - no need for the train as previously posted.
Finished my meetings, dinner etc. at midnite. 10 minutes later, after finding parking 3 blocks away (the parking lot was full as were all legal spots in the vicinity), I'm walking into the club with 15 or so other guys - this at 12:15 a.m. As we approach the club 2 guys come out complaining about the scene inside, They said that there were at least 70 guys already inside and maybe 30 women - but the stars were taken for long sessions and the others were trying to do standard sessions in 15 minutes for the turnover.
That's all I needed to hear. Back to the car and 15 minutes later, pull into my old favorite Oase, for a laidback evening.
Greetings,
Had an opportunity to visit Frankfurt recently on a Friday night and after advise from some members of this forum, decided to give it a try. I set up a Taxi ride from near the airport at 8:30 expecting to pay the 10-15 euro fare. Upon arrival, the meter was 48.5 euro. Yikes.
Went inside and the ladies at the door were nice and showed me the ropes and handed me my key and towels. Showered and proceded to head out to the floor to check out the action. first impression was that there were 20 or so girls and the same amount of guys. Buffet was cleaned out and there was no alcohol to be had in the place. The quality of the girls was pretty nice so after a few laps around the place, I sat in a sofa in the central area of the club. I was looking around trying not to make serious eye contact with any girls as I wanted to be selective.
After a few minutes, a dark haired gal from greece came and sat next to me and started to get real friendly, soon progressed to DFK...and then off to the room. This girl had a rocking body, with medium sized natural breasts, and a nice face (Sandra Bullock like with a few more blemishes) She took charge and I was able to simpley relax while she did some BBBJ with great skill and lots of tongue action. We then proceeded to the next level in several positions with some good moaning. Finished in the doggie position and then rested for the remainder of our session. Never felt hurried in any way. Overall grade was 9 body, 8 face, 9 service.
Next hour was just cruising around the club trying not to stay put for too long to avoid the more agressive and less attractive girls. Then out came round two of the food buffet.... from a short distance away, it reminded me of hogs feeding at the feed trough and this included the girls as well. Needless to say, the food option was not appealing to me so I passed. The juice, softdrinks, and water seemed to be all that I needed.
After an hour or so, I was taking notes of the girls trying to set up the next deal. There were about 3-5 girls that I would classify as extremely attractive (~9/10) so I decided to satisfy my need for some eye candy. I was making serious eye contact to the ones that I was interested in and in a few minutes a real nice girl came buy, my night was soon to be made. This girl looked like a petite J Lo and talked like Natasha from the old cartoons. While talking about our plans for the evening, she made me a two girl offer that really tempted me...but I did not want to spend the rest of the cash that I brought with me after the taxi ride dampened my supply more than anticipated. So we decided to head off to a room but they were all occupied. We looked in the cinema room but the atmosphere in there really was a turn off for me as there were two couples and a couple of guys hanging out. We waited about 10-15 minutes and then a room came open. She started out with a BBBJ that was knocking my socks off. This girl had lots of eye contact and has this seductive look to her that drove me nuts. After 5-10 minutes, we moved into a few positions that included lots of eye contact and noise. I was simply enjoying myself and was in no hurry to finish the act. After 15 minutes or so of total enjoyment, it was time to finish the deal. I asked her to finish me and she yanked off the rubber and pulled out the lotion. Then I asked her to finish me with her mouth and she just gave me this sexy smile and I knew it was going to be good. She then started with a slow wet BJ and lots of eye contact and pleasure noises. Then she asked me if I would like to finish in her mouth for another 50. I gave here the nod and she went to town and took everything that I could possibly give her. She then pulled up and gave me a cum dripping smile and told me that it tasted great. Still have that vivid moment in my mind. It was the best 100 that I ever spent and I give this girl 10 around. This was not a GFE but more a PSE (porn star experience).
After that, I knew that my cash supply was low so I ordered a taxi back to the airport hotel and again was hit with a 40 euro ride which seemed high.
In summary, this is the first FKK experience and I was totally impressed by the quality and service. It sure beats the cold and mechanical window girls from Amsterdam or Brussels and the AMPs or escorts in the US. I will certainly make this place a routine stop in the future.
Angelique from Siberia-formerly of Atlantis.
Just a quick note to all her fans that she was working in the Palace on Monday the 26th and is planing on getting a boob job so she may be taking some time off after to recover if she goes through with it.
Ready Man,
The airport is quite some distance away from downtown Frankfurt. So that's why your taxi ride was so expensive. It is far cheaper to take a train from the airport to the downtown main train station and then take a taxi from there to the Palace. Is this worth it to you? I don't know. But for the 80+ euros you paid both ways you could have had the train rides to downtown and back, the two much shorter taxi rides + one more euro50 encounter with a girl.
Just a thought for next time.
Round trip train from airport to downtown is 7Euro.
Taxi from Bahnhoff to Palace is 10Euro.
You can also take the U6 but then you have a short hike to Palace.
Does anyone have any reports about the special party night they seem to have on a regular basis. What goes on and are there discounts?
Bare
I have a couple of quick questions. I'm going to Frankfurt in July for a vacation and the whole FKK scene is very interesting. I've never tried it, but I plan on it. Sooo....
I understand that The Palace is fairly easy to get to from Frankfurt, what are some more clubs that are worth checking out that are easy to get to for someone that will not have a rented car?
Does Tha Palace or any other clubs take credit cards?
Thanks a bunch everyone.
Jaas
Hello everyone,
I have just had my first FKK experience, and it was great! I had some spare time in Frankfurt, and after having studied all the reports here I decided to go to Palace. I took a cab from Hauptbahnhof (train station). I said the street name to the cab driver and he replied "Palace?". The trip took about ten or fifteen minutes and costed EURO 12. I was buzzed in through the gate to the club and a nice woman explained the rules to me in English. I paid the entrance fee of EURO 65 and was given two towels and a key to a locker. After having showered I went out into the actual club. I couldn't believe my eyes. So many gorgeous woman almost or totally naked just walking around. I would guess there were about 15-20 girls and probably about the same amount of men. I walked around for a bit and sat down in the bar and ordered a free coke. This was just great. So many pretty girls. I would say half of them were 9s and the rest were 8s and 7s. I walked around a bit more and when I sat down in one of the sofas one girl approached me right away. She wasn't really my type so I said I wanted to look around a bit more. Then I saw a the most beautiful girl of them all there. A tall semi-blond South American girl. She stood around a bar table with three or four other girls. I waited a while for her to look my way or perhaps come my way. But she just stood there and after ten minutes I went up to her. I just said "Hi" and off we went to the cinema. We cuddled for a while there and she turned to be even prettier than I first thought. While we were kissing I put my hand closer to her pussy. She then moved her hand quickly down there and I thought she was about to remove my hand. For some reason, some working girls don't like to be touched there. But no, she took my hand and stuck my fingers right into her pussy. And she was wet! After a little while we went to a room. I had been told that a 30 minute session costs EURO 50. But she told me that I could get a longer VIP session for EURO 100. Perhaps I was stupid to say yes to this, but she was so great that I couldn't say no. We had a great time and it was definately worth the money. Her name was Fani (I think) and she was from Puerto Rico.
After some chilling out I noticed a black girl sitting in the sofa. I went up to her and sat myself next to her. We did some cuddling and we went quickly away to a room. She was no where near as good as the first girl. The session as mechanical and there was no passion at all. I finished it quickly. I never got her name.
I decided to wait for a while now so I just sat in the bar watching the girls. Two of them used the swimming pool and it was a joy watching them jump up and down. Later on I went away to the cinema area and there I saw this guy being blowed by a blond woman.
She even did him on top while I and another guy were watching.
After having waited long enough I approaced a small very cuty Spanish girl. We sat down and she did a BBBJ in front of the other people. Nice. The session in the room was also really good and she was a great kisser. Her name was Bonita.
After three sessions there was no way I could handle anything more so I had to leave. I had then spent EURO 65 for entrance, EURO 100 for the first girl and EURO 50 each for the two other girls = EURO 265 in total. Definately worth the money.
This was my first ever to a FKK club but definately not the last one. I like the idea that it's so close to a city centre that you can taxi for a reasonable amount of money. If I understand it correctly most of the other FKK clubs are remotely located and more or less impossible to reach without a car. Please let me know if I'm wrong here.
H
Homers,
Welcome to the punter's paradise! Once you have tried the FKK experience, there is no going back. I remember my first time very well - it was unlike anything I had ever imagined. You asked if there are other FKKs around and within easy reach. Yes, there is one other really good place within a short cab ride from Hauptbahnhof. It is called Sudfass. Strictly speaking it is no FKK, and very few girls kiss; no BBBJ either. But otherwise it is quite similar, the girls are almost naked; you wear only a towel; approximately the same prices, but smaller entrance fee. No free drinks. There is alwasy a very good selection of girls there. I have gone many times, but am now hooked to FKKW, Atlantis (closed now), Oase in Burgholzhausen, and the Palace. Maybe you are interested. Tell the taxi driver "Sudfass" (pronounced "soot-fuss"), and he will get you there.
The experience you had where your first girl upped the ante to 100 is quite common. I never say yes right away, always telling her to see how it goes during the first half hour. I have extended my sessions to an hour many times, but very oftern I have also limited my losses when it became clear during the first few minutes that there was no chemistry. Once you have agreed to the 100 for the hour, you cannot get away with paying 50 any more.
I will go to the Palace on the 15th, and I will give Fani a try. Sounds like a great girl to have fun with.
By the way , please let us know what time of day and what day of the week your visit was.
Jaas: Yes, they all take credit cards. Many of the FKKs also have an ATM machine right on the premises.
Jaas,
You don't want to use a Credit Card, unless you have a very permissive expense account. They will charge you at least a 10% service charge. Use your bank card at an ATM.
To Euro and Homers,
Südfass is more of an old fashioned brothel and not really a club. The other FKK in Frankfurt city proper is F35 along the Main on the Hanauer Landstrasse.
But you really should try the out of town options, they are in a league and size all their own.
Peter
First I want to mention that people at this club are very honest. At one point when I was there I realized that I didn’t have my locker key. I quickly went to my locker to see if everything was alright and someone called out “did you lose your key?” It had fallen off in the cinema and someone had returned it to the desk. Then, after leaving at about 10 PM and driving for 45 minutes to FKK World, I looked in my wallet I realized that I had stupidly forgotten to take my cash, over 150 Euro, out of the small safe at Paradise. My hotel was close to FKK World and I didn’t relish the idea of wasting 1 ½ hours and gas on the round trip to go retrieve my money instead of visiting the club, so I called them from FKK World. I asked if they could keep my money until the next morning so I could pick it up on the way to the airport and they said that would be no problem. The next morning I passed by and the money was waiting for me in an envelope.
The club has great facilities that don’t quite compare to those at FKK World, but are a little better than at Oase (depending on how much you value the outside area at Oase, since Paradise has no outside area) and only a little less good than at (sob!) Atlantis. The decoration is all in the style of a Turkish or Arabian palace, with large soft benches and colored pillows everywhere, including in piles on the floor. There are several luxurious showers, clean lockers, and a huge marble Turkish hammam (bath) apparently available only when you purchase a Turkish massage at extra cost. Unsurprisingly, many of the men in the club looked Turkish. The main room is gigantic, with two levels, a small swimming pool, a large bar, and a buffet with tall coffee tables to eat at. There is a cinema with a large screen and about four terraced levels of mattresses perfect for relaxing or having sex in view of everyone (there are paper towels and Kleenexes on all levels signaling that this is expected here). The movies, unfortunately, were crap. The buffet was fine. There was broiled dark meat chicken quarters, mixed vegetables, boiled potatoes, lettuce with dressing, fried vegetarian patties, fried potato pancakes, and (yuk) beef tongue.
On a Sunday night there were about 12 girls, and one of the girls told me that this is fewer than usual since Sunday is a slow night. The average level was very good. There were 2 blondes from Poland and Hungary that were beautiful and that I had in the cinema. The Polish girl (Kelly) was nice, though she definitely made me aware that I was paying for it. We kissed some, though not passionately, and at times she turned her head to avoid me. At one point she even told me that she doesn’t kiss, although she continued to do so intermittently. The Hungarian girl (Christina) was just ok. She didn’t kiss at all and I didn’t finish with her. So the attitude here, at least with the two girls I saw, was only so-so.
Assuming this day was typical, the club is not a good as FKK World or Atlantis, but it compares favorably to Oase and if you are stuck in Frankfurt without a car it is probably your best option. You can take a train from the airport to Frankfurt and then a taxi from there costs some 10 Euros. If you don’t want to bother with the train a taxi from the airport will cost 40-50 euros.
Euro 100,
Thanks for all the additional information.
You definately should try Fani. Out of the closer to 100 WGs I've done, I have never experience such a perfect mix of GFE and porn actress behaviour!
I realize that my report perhaps was missing some details. I was there on a Tuesday evening, arriving around 10, and leaving around 2. I'm not sure if this is a slow night of the week, but I don't think I would have enjoyed it more even if it wore more girls there.
I will try Sudfass, although I don't really understand what the difference between this place and a FKK is.
I hope to read a report of your visit on the 15th!
H
Homers,
Did Bonita have rather long hair with some curls and did she wear high, black "hooker" boots? If this is the same Bonita I was with last month, you should know she is also a "Starship Trooper" and for a mere 50Euro, she will gladly open the back gate. I enjoyed her for 1 hour and spent a good deal of time driving the Hershey Highway.
Another prime lady is Jenny. She is from Jamica and has an light brown skin. Not a facial beauty, but good English, laughs a lot and will give you a session you will not soon forget.
Bare
Peter,
Yes, I agree that Sudfass is not really an FKK Club in the strict sense. I made the (in my opinion only slight) differences clear in my post. And Homers is correct in saying that it is not entirely obvious where the difference is.
By the way, there are more clubs in Frankfurt than the F35 that you name. There is also Napoleon on the Hanauer Landstrasse. There is the Huehnerhof in Sachsenhausen. (In both I have received competent service.) I have also tried the clubs in Dietzenbach (graduated fee structure, so that additional encounter get cheaper; but I only found two girls worht doing) and Hanau (Diwan, has only few girls, but some of them are good), which are quite close-by. And I am sure that there are other which I do not know about. The German daily "Bild" usually has plenty of ads for the clubs.
And, yes, I agree completely with you that the trip to FKKW is well worth the extra travel, because it is in a higher league than any of the clubs in Frankfurt. Only Atlantis was able to compete with it.
But give the Palace a little time. It is still very new, and it needs to get settled. I know the owner (also named Peter, by the way), and he is determined to make this work. So I will check in periodically to see what the current state of Paradise is. I expect this club to make it.
euro
LuvumBare,
Yes, it's definately the same Bonita as you mention. Such a sweet girl. I will try her "special service" next time!
H
I had a bad experience in Oase last Saturday. I spent about 28 minutes with a Russian girl (I checked my watch), but was asked by that girl to pay 100E and stated I used her 40 minutes. I complained to the manager. The manager ( a lady) asked me to pay 100E, otherwise, I had to leave the club. I think the manager in Oase protected girl and not the customer. Two days later at palace, a German girl spent only 5 minutes in a very rush way and left room and asked me to pay her 50 Euro. I complained to the manager (a man). After listening my complain, he asked that girl to his office to talk. I never see this girl again later in next 6 hours. I am sure she was asked to leave. What a difference!
I'm thinking about going to Palace on May 20, however I hear that this is the last day of a trade show in Frankfurt, IFFA.
Does anyone think I would be better off going to World on this day instead in order to avoid the trade show crowd?
Thanks in advance.
RTW
RTW,
Definitely go to World, ecspecially if the weather is nice. The grounds are much nicer and the number of girls to guys will probably be much better at World if there is a trade show going on in Frankfurt. I have been to both. Palace would be great if you don't have transportation to World, thats your only caveat.
n-joy
Carnal1
RTW,
It depends on the time of day you plan to go. If you go around 4 pm, then Palace will be relatively empty. The late shift girls arrive aorund 5. You can then get a couple of encounters bagged before the trade show hordes arrive.
Now keep in mind that the girls also know when the trade shows are. And they will adjust their attendance accordingly. Frankfurt always has some kind of trade show, fair, conference, or something else going on. But during the high-attendance trade shows the girls come to the FKKs more often, because they know that the ratio of customers to providers will be in their favor. So it's a trade-off (pun intended).
My recommendation is to play it safe and go to World, in particular if you have all day. You can hang out at the pool, eat, drink, lounge, and occasionally engage in the activity that is our common hobby on this board.
Cheers,
Euro
Hallo hobbyists,
After becoming addicted to Planet Happy Garden in Oedt near Dusseldorf over the last year and a half, I finally dipped my toes into the Frankfurt scene by visiting Palace on May 9, a Sunday night. I stayed at the Monopol, fine for 79 euro but my bath and shower only had tepid water- no hot- wassup wid that?
At PHG, among single visits with various new girls or old friends, I had three consecutive daily one hour full on lesbian threesomes with my two favorite blonde girls- a tall willowy and incredibly horny sexy 19 year old C-cup German beauty and an equally incredibly affectionate and sweet yet horny 23 year old vixen from Czechia. I had met on the third and final PHG night WSG poster Al Bundy who had much wisdom to impart regarding the relative merits of Palace, Oase, and World versus PHG. PHG is a favorite of his as well as of myself. I had planned to take the 69 euro train from Venlo to Frankfurt on my final day, but a German friend from PHG provided a ride and gave me a special guided automobile tour of the Rhineland, dropping me in Mainz, a short 6 euro train to Frankfurt Hbf.
Arriving in Frankfurt at 3 PM, I checked into the Monopol and walked the surrounding blocks for a while. I really wanted to go to World at the behest of Ortos, who I know from another board, while Al Bundy had suggested Oase. However, I decided to check Palace first since, if it sucked, I still had time until 11 PM or so to hop on the S-bahn and train it either to Giessen/World or Friedricksdorf/Oase and stay until 4 or 5 AM before returning to the hotel and airport Monday morning. My cabbie was an old fart German guy who told me all about his own mongering preferences- escorts, older Hispanic women who he likes to videotape.
On entering Palace at about 7 PM, I gave my 65 euro to the woman with the Tammy Faye Baker troweled- on makeup and was led into the club by a uniformed matron. The sweeping curved rows of lockers were in sharp contrast to the tight quarters of the PHG changing room. I placed all my belongings and valuables into the clothes locker, only later did I notice the tiny safe deposits for money and passport. I guess on a busier night it would be wise to use those for my money. I showered up and had a walkabout. There were maybe 10 guys wandering around and about 15 girls. I was very impressed with the layout and “newness” of it all, not to mention the bouncing boobs of the buxom providers, but the lighting made scoping out the talent a bit difficult. I perched at the rear of the bar to get a soda and was engaged by a very cute Spanish babe with long curly light brown hair. Laura from Barcelona was an inverse Jennifer Lopez look-alike, big firm yet pear- shaped c cups and a small girlish booty and belly. After some preliminary chat and kissy face and initial inspection of her 23 year old frame, it wasn’t long before she was leading me to my first true FKK room. On the way, she gave me a minitour of the club, she seemed to want to do it in the cinema but there were two guys in there only and cheesy porn so we went to the room. The session was fine- she was a passionate kisser and tasted fine, those c-cups got lots of attention. She took my phone number for a possible summer visit in NY.
After a shower, I wandered around and had some of the excellent beef goulash, potatoes, noodles, salade and beans with bread. I then repaired to one on the huge pillow filled swinging beds. It wasn’t long before I was joined by a 30ish Ukranian girl who chatted me up and rubbed my belly for 20 minutes. She wasn’t room material though, and she gave up although the young Russian on a nearby couch was. I motioned her over ready to debauch this schoolgirl but she spoke no English and blew me off after 2 minutes. I moved to another couch and soon another neked German girl was rubbing my belly and trying to recruit me. I found this a bit more relaxing than pacing the smoke filled bar at PHG, but I still love that place as well. It is easier I think to eatablish a lasting prapport at PHG, but this requires more research on my part at Palace. Soon, I was attracted to the upturned butt of a blonde on a nearby couch. I went over to talk, she was a plain looking German pro who was nice enough but not the right choice for me- why I took her to a room I don’t know but I sometimes do thing like that. No harm done. I had noticed a blonde amazon strutting around who earlier had disappeared into a room with a guy and a gal for a threesome. I decided to wait for her and when she appeared I went right over and grabbed her. She was 182 cm with perfect large c’s and a supermodel face with hair down almost to her ass. Her name was Diana from Lithuania, she is 22 and a 10 looks-wise. Service wise I would rate her a 7. She was constantly trying to sell me upgrades. As I tried to kiss her, she begged me for anal- only 50 euro more. Here I had this supermodel 10 begging me to do her in the ass- who was I to refuse? When I said OK she relaxed a bit, kissed me more deeply and we began to wrestle in front of the huge mirror. The rooms are very plush at Palace, some have CD players inside so next time I shall burn some CD’s for the girls and pound them to my favorite tunes. One thing about Diana, her face was so beautiful that I really enjoyed just watching her blow me, I had to instruct her to do it slow and sexy a couple of times, but she got the message. Soon, she was begging for the anal again, so we struggled a bit to get me in and then she just arched her back, put her face into the bed, rubbed her puss and cooed for 10 minutes while I did it. After a while she made some finishing noises and also made a bit of a mess so we stopped and went to the next door lavatory to freshen up. We rutrned to the bed to start over but after 10 minutes our 30 minutes were over but I was not ready to relinquish this goddess, so we went for a second half hour of slow BJ and multiposition boffing. She basically just lay there for most of the pounding. For 150 euro for an hour with anal it wasn’t bad. The eye candy was worth it. I wouldn’t repeat though.
I showered extra long this time, and again returned to the main harem room to relax. Another fanta, another plate of goulash spuds, and salade, a quick sauna, watching a guy and a girl play in the pool, which was very clean and inviting, and some more chats with belly- rubbing saleswomen. Some girls told me that the Friday night Eastern Party featured 70 or 80 girls and long waits for rooms, and that Saturday was much more subdued. It was getting close to 1 AM and they were still bringing out food and guys continued to arrive in dribs and drabs. I especially liked the watermelon slices. Back by the bar, there were five naked girls lounging with nothing to do, one was my Laura from Spain and her friend, a hot pornoed out Puerta Ricana was waving and pulsing her ass in my direction. I joined them on the swing to schmooze and Fanni- the porno queen pushed her natural D’s into my face and grabbed my unit and began kissing and stroking me. Laura recommended her wholeheartedly. This lasted for about 15 minutes while I massaged her chests and she got me rock hard. Couch action- yes I like this. We went to a room and had a horny sweaty half hour which included me bringing her off digitally while she sucked me and a salsa lesson.
By 2 AM, after four days of non-stop sex and travel, I decided to call it a night. I taxied back to the hotel for 9.60 and hit the free internet in the monopol to post on another site. I shall definitely return to Palace- this was a very slow night and there still was plenty that was of interest. Palace is an excellent venue for the winter time, inclement weather, or when you are in Frankfurt and pressed for time. However, I look forward to exploring FKK World and Oase in summer when the outdoor facilities.
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Just curious.
Are couples welcome in FKK clubs? Do you ever see any there?
Thanks
At last, Beffen, welcome to the world of couch action. I am sure that, as you "pepto" your way through additional clubs like Oase and World, and make repeat visits to Palace, you will become quite adept at playing the couch-action field and you will grow to like it.
That's a really great description of Palace. The account of your experiences there really made me feel like I was back in the club myself. You really captured the spirit and feel of the place. Your comments about the food at Palace are bang on. Over two visits there I saw different food each time, so they really make an effort there both in terms of quality and variety. Palace really does put the other clubs to shame in food department.
I'm sure you will have some interesting comments to make when you add Oase and World to your FKK club portfolio.
Beffen,
I was at Palace last Thursday and saw this lady Diana. You are right, she does have a model face. However something about her manner gave me the impression that she would try hard to ply on the extras. It is my experience that if you say no to these with this type of provider, then the "normal" session will be a real drag.
Palace has quite a few former Atlantis girl working there now. One girl told me that it is really a comfortable place for the Atlantis crowed, and that the managment really treats them well. She also said that many former Atl. girl who initially went to Oase caught a hard time from the girls who were already there. This could be true from I was at Oase two weeks ago and alot of the Atlantis girls who I saw on previous visits were nowhere to be found.
Marina (Blond, Lithuanian, top act!) was at Palace last Thursday. She has been away for awhile and it was great to have a "re-aquainting" session with this godess. She said that she may try Oase next week to see which club is better for her.
Cindy (Blond, Poland, luscious body!) was also there and as delicious as always.
Some of the girls there told me that there only real complaint about Palace is that there are not enough customers. Hard to understand since this club is the easiest to access of all the Frankfurt clubs.
Cheers all,
Dedalus
Beffen,
Thanks for the great report. And it's nice to hear that you also enjoyed the services of Fanni. Is she great or what?
H
Thanks guys for the comments. So the Oase girls are territorial eh? I have heard that they are a rough crowd. Well, I know I will do my best as we all should to increase the number of customers at Palace. Maybe they can add a roof top outdoor swimming pool for summer.
Beffen
Befto,
I would suggest at least an outdoor courtyard somewhere. That place needs a place to chill in fresh air. Like you said earlier, definitely a Winter venue, at least maybe a mid day nooner type venue before you go home to the wife and kids.
I passed on going to Oase the night I was at Palace since I had my hands full with the local girls. Quite a few of the girls mentioned how they disliked the Mangagement styles at both Atlantis and Oase. They also gave me the impression that they were more independent than the cliques or groups of girls that hang out toghether like they did during my stay at World. The Palace Girls tended to wander around by themselves, itting at the bar solo.
doooog
Carnal1
Palace is only lacking the outdoor facility and some more men. Summer will be a hard time. Most girls will change to Oase.
Oase girls were a little upset about the Atlantis-girl-invasion. But fights have ceased.
Hessen Bub
Let me ask a question about the strategy. I used to fuck 8-10 girls in one visit (the best use of 65e entry fee, isn't it?). I use Vigra or Cialis (similar result). The other tactic I used was holding the ejaculation till the last girl I plan to fuck that day (depend on selection in the club and energy I had I feel). That mean I ejaculate only once in fucking about 10 girls (my record is 11) in one visit. If I came earlier, it will take more time for me to get hard again. So use this stratigy, I can fuck more girls (10 girls in about 10-12 hours stay in one visit). Could you comment on if it is right thing to do (use Vigra, and holding back the ejaculation)?
Thanks!
#1980
Member 1980,
That is a well known and sometimes troublesome side effect of Viagra- delayed ejaculation- but 11 girls? Wow. The technique certainly does allow for maximal sampling during a limited timeframe. For me too, often it is the dance and continuing the dance that is moer important- it drives some girls crazy.
beffen
Beffen1,
What do you mean "troublesome side effect of Viagra", and "it drives some girls crazy"? Please explain. Do you think Cialis is better than Viagra? Any comments about these two recreational medicines? Which do you think is better?
I remember a comment by a member of this board: it is wonderful world--using GPS and satellites to track prostitutes, and using Cialis and/or Viagra to fuck prostitutes all day long.
BTW, can we use Cialis and Viagra together?
#1980
Member 1980-
Taking Viagra, and Levitra, can delay or even often prevent orgasm, in essence you have a very durable stiff piece of wood with no sensitivity. This effect is more pronounced as the dose increases. Very handy if you are a "collector" and want to do many women in a day.
Once a Viagra user, I use Levitra now- no stuffy nose or headache, the face flushing is not so severe as with Viagra, and it seems to take effect quickly whether you have recently eaten a meal or not. Also- I notice a considerable positive effect of Levitra the next day without another dose. I take a 20 mg tablet and just bite off little slivers all day, I usually have a chunk left over. I have no experience with Cialis. Under no circumstances should you take a dose of two of these drugs in the same 24 hour period. And if the girl breaks out amyl nitrate "poppers" to enhance your orgasm- run away.
More and more, during sessions, due to ageing, travel fatigue, and the drugs, I often encounter the "no orgasm" side effect of Vigra and Levitra and the girls know about this effect and sometimes scold or chastise me about my Viagra use. I have to tell them that the fact that I keep sessioning with them is proof that I love them and that it is the dance and not the finish that is most important to me. It usually works but I have had favorite girls in de Wallen of Amsterdam raise my price because I work them so hard all the time. One Eastern Soviet almost tiener asked me if I was a sex tyrannist after she came twice and I just kept on going. And I fear that Leona now will only see me as a threesome with Sammi for that reason- though I may be paranoid on that one.
Beffen 1
All,
Many thanks first to all those who have contributed to this forum. Your reports and advice have been very helpful in my first adventure into an FKK.
Flew into sunny and warm Frankfurt at 13:00 this past Sat. and checked into the Intercontinental Hotel with a view facing the suspension bridge on the Rhine. The DBB train ride from the airport to Hauptbahnhof was only 3.25 Euros one way. After chilling at the hotel, I took a taxi to Palace for 11 Euros. Got there at around 17:00 and paid the 65 Euros entrance fee. There were about 15 girls and about 10 guys. The girls were on average about 5-7 in looks, nothing outstanding. More girls with some 7-9s in looks started showing up at around 19:00.
Luisa: claims to be from Madrid, 30s-40s, brunette, hair down to ass, unenthusiastic BBBJ, MPCFS, tried to upsell with her toy but I said no thanks. Overall, uninspired service. Chalk this one up as an FKK rookie mistake.
Elvira: Russian fake blonde from Siberia, claims to be a former ballet dancer, 30s-40s, long hair, good BBBJ, MPCFS, extra 50 Euros for CIM. Much better than Luisa also in the personality department. Her English is quite good and she later introduced me to other Russian girls there.
Nadine: Lithuanian blonde goddess, 20s, fake 36D but well done, excellent body, 5'9" tall with hair to shoulders, tattoos on side of lower left leg. Excellent BBBJ, DATY, MPCFS, extra 50 for CIM. For me she clearly stood out among all the girls that evening. Nice personality too.
I also did a tanned blonde from Poland whose name I can't remember. She was in her early 20s, with well done fake boobs. Good BBBJ, DATY, MPCFS.
By this time, I had only just enough left in my tank for one more so I asked Elvira for a recommendation. She introduced me to this 20-something tanned dark blonde with a thick lower body and a well-shaped ass. I think her name was something like Tatiana (?). She said she was from Moscow. Her front teeth could use some work but other than that she has a great personality. Great BBBJ, and awesome doggy. This was my fifth girl of the evening so it took me awhile but she was patient and really got into the long doggy pounding!
By the time I finished with Tatiana(?), it was almost 23:00, things were getting crowded and I was spent so I called it the night. Overall, it was a great first time experience in an FKK. I ended up doing 5 girls with 3-4 providing exceptional service, for a total of 450 euros including the entrance fee and cab fares to and from the Palace. Would I repeat? Hell yes!
Cheers,
WW
Beffen1,
I am a "collector" that you described that I fuck many girls each visit and many girls in life. I feel very happy that I can fuck that many beautiful girls in the FKK. In San Fransisco, Mithal Brothers, I fucked a similar quality girl for only 10 minutes for $400 (can do 8 girls in FKK, each 30 minutes). That's why I enjoy fucking at FKK like cracy. Usually I do drive girls crazy for fucking each of them about 30 minutes. But I don't tell them I use Viagra. I pretend to come in the end. I hold ejaculation but still feel several orgazms each 30 minutes. I read from a magazine that man can reach orgazm without ejaculation. I feel that is my case. Unfotunately, I can visit Frankfurt only a very few times a year, twice last year, twice this year so far. Enjoy reading your report!
Member #1980
Beffer & 1980,
Call me old-fashoined, but getting as many sessions in as possible without finishing seems to me to miss the whole point. My strategy is to go for only three or four encounters on any given visit to the FKKs and then call it a day. But I want to finish each time.
If taking Viagra et al. prevents me from cuming, then this will prevent me from trying it, at least when I am at an FKK. If I wanted to please a women that I love and make here cum as often as possible all night, then I guess that Viagra could help with that strategy. But the girls at the FKKs are pros. They do not want to cum, they just want you to finish. So if neither side wants to finish, that can lead to very unsatisfactory encounters.
But hey, this is what's so great about the FKK scenece: every guy can come in their with his own strategy and will reach his goals.
Enjoy,
Euro
Gotta go with Euro 100 on this one. Also many FKK workers try to avoid the guys who obviously pop viagra and try to pound them hard for a full 30 minutes. They will tolerate this if you book an hour session, but otherwise they may avoid you. I have had girls point out to me guys at the clubs who, as they sometimes says are "not knowing how to fuck." meaning those who only use them as a "fuck machine."
By all means use the Viagra (or whatever) but use it wisely. Take your first session without and your second with. Just a suggestion.
There are exceptions to this rule but I have not met too many. Even the top acts.
Also, I have yet to meet a women, (pro or otherwise) who could not tell whether or not a man has cum. That is a whole mess of nerves that they have done there and, condom or not, they can tell. Lying only makes a guy look silly.
Dedalus
Hey, do you guy know from reading magazines or experience that man can reach multiple orgasms without ejaculation?
I think we should make girls used to be fucked close to 30 minutes instead of let them make you 1, 2, 3, paying.
I agree with Euro100 that "this is what's so great about the FKK scenece: every guy can come in with his own strategy and will reach his goals". If you don't want to fuck 30 minutes, you can fuck 20 minutes or 10 minutes, then chat with girl for rest of time or simply leave. Most of girls love the later the most. But I think most of man love to fuck longer. In FKK, 30 minutes, in some other countries, I used to fuck girls 1 to 2 hours. That's really fun!
interesting comments about being blacklisted as a viagra demon. dedalus and euro 100. i am not a power ficker. my object is to find a gfe rapport with a girl that makes me want to spend an hour or more in her company. most girls want to do longer sessions. member 1980, as for me i have never faked an orgasm with a girl i am paying for sex- i would just feel too silly doing it and trying to hide the empty condom from her afterwards. why bother faking- i payed her. hell, it gives us something to talk about. i just explain that i am on a sex marathon, very tired from travel and multiple girls, etc, and it is meeting all the young hotties and the sex dance itself rather than the finish that is important to me and they should not worry about their performance or reputation. this honesty often leads to an increased rapport with the girls- they view me as a "regular guy' and not a macho man (or maybe a weirdo or a wanker ;-). after this admission, you would be amazed at the stories about the business or their private sex lives the girls give forth, and how many photographs they allow me to take as "souveniers for the heart".
with girls i like, i tend to book one hour or longer sessions, often a lot of that is spent in cuddled dfk conversation and lighter sex play. the truth is, i am not capable of multiple orgasms per day any more, one or two is the norm to maybe three on a really good day. and again the viagra or levitra do not help with orgasms. my first session of the day is often without help and then i go into pharmaceutical stud mode.
also, i do not use the ladies as a fxck machine, unless she is a cold poor provider and then there is definately a "spite fxck" aspect to pounding her until the last second is up :-), but those i don't want to see again. anyway. i am sensitive to signs of fatigue and vary the routine to suit the girl's energy level as well as my own preferences. somehow, we find all sorts of "low-impact" but visually stimulating intercourse positions or other non-coital but still quite horny activities to occupy our all too short time together. one of my favorites is the patented beffen massage using deep tissue methods with the hands and elbows to relax a tired girl, interspeersed with deep orifice probing with the lips and tongue when she least expects it. these massages often take place after our paid session is over and we are "off the clock".
counting the days,
beffen
Beffen,
Lounging around with a girl after a session would be nice. I get the impression that it is a possibility for me sometimes, but I am usually reluctant to accept because it makes me uncomfortable not really being sure that I am not going to get an unpleasant surprise at the end when she charges me an extra 50 or 100 for the extra time spent just cuddling. In fact this happened to me once at another club.
I guess it helps to be with a girl who you know, but I usually like to hit every girl in the place, or as many as I can. I guess this is one of the disadvantages of infidelity.
Befto 1.
Didn't you have a similar experience with Leona at PHG? Black listing from the girls due to excessive pounding, or in your case maybe too much licking :-)
I can see how this could happen, if your returning day after day, eventually the girls chat with each other and things get around. I am sure that plenty of locals show up to get a few natural shots on goal and these girls probably already know that.
They make their money the same way, just don't get fucked to death by us Americans that over do it on the viagra, ecspecially after say 6 or 7 days of marathon "sport fucking" like we tend to do. My trip to Prague had me in that situation. Three nights in a row at K-5, then World, Palace, and PHG back to back to back had me somewhat insensitive and making it harder to cum but much easier to do my favourite, "sport fucking". My last session in Amsterdam with Nina was more like a dance, alot of eye candy but not much sensation. I never thought I would say something like that.
doog,
Carnal 1 aka Lanrac
Hey lanrac (Funny to call you that).
Black listing-no-time management-yes. I think the Leona thing was due to the fact that on my prior visit, when I met Leona for the first time and had three loooong sessions with her in four days, - Leona and I talked alot about a threesome with Sammi but it never happened so that was in her mind. I do go on and on and on and on. Then on the last trip she was really very busy with a lineup of quickie clients so why should she work so hard on poor old relunctant befto. But once Sammi set it up and we were in the room, Leoontje was as sexy, affectionate, fun, smoochie oral princess, dirty girl full on lesbian mynx with Sammi, it really was a topper and each of the three days was better. Switching around and having my attentions divided between the two takes the pressure off of one girl, both of whom has been pounded by one after another guy- then I come along. I'm just glad we found the right combo- I'll always go for the trio with those two- just an unbeatable visual and they "gel" so nicely together. I love making out with two at once and the dual BBBJ- not to be missed by any serious hobbiest IMHO. I have a few tricks for July.
After a couple of days of sixpacks, five packs, etc. I become a desensitized "sex bum" - just keep them poonies coming. It would never happen without those pills. That's why I make four or five day trips.
Another thing about getting to know a girl, its great during down time for her when you meet one of your sweeties in the nachtcafe or the bar or outside and she just wants to relax, have a coffe, and cuddle and get a light massage. She settles in your lap and you get to give her a little pleasure and nibble and knabble on her neck- that's part of GF sex too IMHO.
Doog,
Beffy
Directions to the Palace:
From A-66 get off at the Hausen exit (between A-5 and Miquelallee) at the roundabout take the second street and go straight past the Fischbine Ubahn station and turn right past the Aral gas station, go under the big arch and make an immediate right. turn left into the drive by the green snack bar.
Went there on the 8th of June @ 11:00 a.m. right after opening and there was a cute busty brazilian girl called stella. Had her a couple of times, once on my own and the second as a double tag with a friend of mine. 8 girls were available and non below 7. Pretty good since it's very close to downtown.
Forgot to add, there was loads of action in the kino room. It was easy to convince the girls to shag there. At one point in time, two couples were going at it while everybody else was watching Europear soccer games.
Boofer,
I agree completely: the kino in the Palace is the best that I have ever seen. You can clearly see that the owners invested a lot of thought into decorating the entire Palace interior. As far as the decor and functionality of the Palace interior is concerned, it has no match. (It lacks the outdoor facilities and sufficient parking, though).
I have had a couple of session in the kino, and it does add a certain dimension to the experience. Due to the very bright projection screen, the light is always fairly bright in there. And so you can see anything that anybody else in there does. So the exhibitionists and voyeurs all can have a field day in there.
Why is it so easy to talk the girls into doing it in the kino? I would guess that it also serves as free advertising for them.
By the way, there is also a semi-private area with pillow-covered benches and sofas along every wall, right next to the huge hot tub, at the far end. That room has a conventional tube TV, on which you can watch videos as well. The entrance does not have a door, but only a few strings of beads. So it is not really completely private. I have have had a specially memorably session with Lulu, a real hot babe from Spain, in there. Lulu speaks almost no word of German or English; so chatting was a bit difficult. However, she really got into having at it in the open. And we climbed all over the furniture in there, doing every position that I know.
And then there is the huge bed/sofa that hangs from the ceiling by chains, in the main area, right across from the dancing pole. I have had a very stimulating session with Jessica there.
And then there is the whirlpool, right next to the DJ position, where you can relax and watch the naked female DJ grove to the beat. And the list goes on and on ...
If I had to furnish a place to provide the ideal setting for shagging, I would be hard-pressed to do a better job than the Palace designers have done!
euro
Once again I have to say that a lot of people are too hard on this place. When compared with the US or even the red-light district, the energy of a FKKK club is unmatched. I visited here and at the World, and I liked both of them. I did find the girls here more relaxed and I did not like the crowd at the World at all. A number of bikers with Hells Angel’s tattoos, a large group of other guys acting up, versus a very friendly crowd here. I actually spoke with some of the other patrons, and it was very pleasant.
I had two sessions one early afternoon, one later in the evening (I left to do some work and came back without another fee, which was nice). The first girl was great. I am not good with names but the first was a thick girl from Poland. Very nice BBBJ, titie-fuck to completion. Exactly my kind of girl. I found another in the evening who was what I liked physically (I like girls with a good amount of meat on them, just on this side of being fat) this one was a thick Thai girl, which was an interesting combo, but the service was horrible. No BBBJ, and even the CBJ was horrible. Everything was bad. It’s not the club, it’s the girls.
After visiting K-5, FKK World, The Palace, and PHG all in successive
evenings I can say that The Palace had the nicest ammenities. World would be second based on the additional wow factor of the size (who says size does'nt matter) that puts it in a league of its own. The Palace is a great accessible option that should be
visited, Reccommended!
PHG is very smoky and quite congested in the locker area and K-5 is a multi-level brothel/bar with some cool touch screen's to help select your date or dates . K-5 exudes more of a gentlemans club/brothel and FKK's are much faster in the multiple session options.
Such choices !
Carnal1 aka Lanrac
@We,
Those bikers are not only guests, they are also the owners.
It is normal at all clubs to get in again on the same day with only one time entrance fee. Just tell them when you are leaving that you are coming back on the same day.
@Carnal,
OK, you told us about the facilities, what was your ranking on quality of girls, and what is your base?
Peter
(Who has yet to be to Palace)
Peter,
Ranking the quality of girls would be based on two visits to World, one to The Palace, two at PHG, and three nights at K-5.
Saying all of that, I would rate World as my top spot for quality and quantity, PHG would be a close second and would be first if
the place was big enough to accomodate more girls. The Palace
was very new, in fact I was the first person to post on it in this section. Saying that, it was going thru a few growing pains and was just beginning to attract girls from places like Atlantis which had just been closed down. The Palace will be a very popular place in the future for both girls and guys since it is so centrally located and easy to get to without a car. It is much closer to a club than World is which is both good and bad. Too many people would make it uncomfortable for me, hard to imagine too many people at World since it is so freaking huge. The number of available rooms at World is the only thing that would limit your options. Palace could and probably fills up much faster on buisy nights making it attractive for local girls to make some money. World is a bit of a trip so my guess is that The Palace will eventually have equal billing in the quality department, ecspecially in the colder months.
Just my .02 Euros
Carnal1 aka Lanrac
@Carnal
Usually there are more girls at PHG than at World, even though the place is smaller.
I especially wanted to know about the quality of the girls at K5. I have never been to Prague mongering, but I still haven't seen enough to make me take the plunge. I think I do well in Germany and there is no reason to go to that part of the east. In really poor places like Estonia I have done well, but in a different way, but Prague seems to offer no price advantage and the reports I have read are hit and miss. the escort.cz website has some top lookers though.
Peter
peter,
we will have to enligten you on the palace. have a look at your calendar around mid to late july. perhaps.
dedalus,
(who is addicted to cindy and the palace)
p.s. saw a few [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url] types on my last visit that may hold some interesse for you.
Is Palace run by the same owners as Paradise? Or is it a totally different ownership? Is it the same space as where Paradise was and simply remodeled, or is it next door to where Paradise used to be?
Can anyone provide some detailed directions to Palace from the airport? I'm planning on going to one of the FKK's on the 15th and I know palace or F35 is the closest. Any suggestions, directions? Thanks in advance guys.
V
Valmont,
You start at the airport, driving the A5 northwards, direction Kassel. At "Frankfurt Nordwest" you change to A66 towards Frankfurt. Next exit ist "Frankfurt-Hausen". Take this exit. You turn right (Ludwig-Landmann-Str.), and at the second traffic-light you turn rigght (Am Industriehof). You pass a gas station (ARAL, I believe). After this gas station, take the next street right (Tilsiter Str.). You turn right again at th enext street, that´s "Königsberger Str." FKK-Palace is lefthand, Nr. 23.
It´s about 15 minutes to get there from the airport.
Palace is very good, but World is a fuck of alot better...about 30 minutes beyond Palace from the airport without traffic.
Directions to Palace: From the airport, drive on to the A5 direction Kassel. Look for signs to the A66. Get on the A66 and take the exit for Miquellalee. Then follow all white/black signs to Hausen. Once in Hausen, look for an Aral petrol station on your right. It has a large blue sign. Just after this petrol station, there is a major right hand turn with a bunch of signs pointing mainly to Industrial area locations, but one of the signs (at the top) points the way to Palace.
By the way: If you decide to go to World, just stay on the A5 from the airport direction Kassel/Giessen. Then get off the at the Fernwald exit. I'm telling you, it is a much higher order FKK experience than Palace, although Palace is very good, esp. because it is virtually in central Frankfurt.
Don't even think about FKK35...I think it's closed anyway.
Good luck.
Ortos,
I called F35 one minute ago. It´s reopenend since June, 1st. I don´t have any additional information, but at least it´s not closed.
I agree to your opinion that FKKW is better than Palace, but at Palace are many women from the closed Atlantis. Some of them are highly praised in the german forums. I.e. Cindy, Carina, Michelle, Miriam, Nadine (in alphabetical order).
Imho the main advantage of FKKW is the great outdoor area.
Food, coffee, massage, hamam: advantage Palace.
So in my opinion the decision depends on the weather.
I don't want to put Palace down too much, but, for me, at least, the difference between Palace and World extends much beyond the existence of outdoor facilities at World. I find the entire "vibe" at World to be far, far superior than Palace. The sheer number of young, hot girls at World outstrips what you find at Palace. Sure there are some stars from Atlantis at Palace; but you can find the same at World (or even Oase, for that matter). I still believe that as an over all "FKK exeprience" (however you might define that personally), World offers a higher order. The food at Palace is unbeatable though...
I've had great days (and nights) at FKKW, but also very, very poor ones. So, I think it´s a bit of a risk going there, especially if you´re alone. Anyway, it´s my favourite club.
In Palace the atmosphere doesn't vary that much. So, if you like it there, it´s always a reliable option.
Ok, since I have a car that in the US we call a "POS" (piece of shit), I am probably going to be going to Palace. I will have already driven from K-town to Frankfurt, and I don't want to put too many more km on my car.
Now, second question: Can I get some suggestions of some girls at Palace? You guys listed some of the superstars from Atlantis that are there now, perhaps you could give me some descriptions and suggestions? Thanks again.
V
Novize´s recommendations at Palace:
name: Anjelica
hair: black, short
size: ~ 1,70 m
figure: slim, siliconized C/D-breast
origin: russian
born: ~ 1973
tattoos/piercings: tattoo on the right side of her back
service: full pro. range from GFE to hardcore
other: charming, intelligent, good conversation
name: Cindy
hair: blonde, long
size: ~ 1,70 m
figure: slender, siliconized C/D-breast
origin: polish
born: ~ 1977
tattoos/piercings: tattoo on the right side of her back
service: full pro. no anal. range from GFE to hardcore
other: charming, intelligent, good conversation
name: Diana
hair: blonde, long
size: ~ 1,80 m
figure: slender, siliconized B/C-breast
origin: lithuanian
born: ~ 1980
tattoos/piercings:
service: full pro. great bbbj-experience
other:
name: Marina
hair: blonde, long
size: ~ 1,60 m
figure: slim, B/C-breast
origin: lithuanian
born: ~ 1978
tattoos/piercings: tattoo above back
service: full pro. more hardcore than GFE
other:
name: Michelle
hair: black, long to the hips
size: ~ 1,65 m
figure: slim
origin: german
born: ~ 1977
tattoos/piercings: pierced bellybutton and tongue, tattooed mons veneris
service: full pro. more hardcore than GFE
other: not to be overlooked - and ignored (called "the radio")
name: Miriam
hair: brown, neck-lenght
size: ~ 1,65 m
figure: slim, B-breast
origin: polish
born: ~ 1982
tattoos/piercings: tattoo on the left (?) ankle. range from GFE to hardcore
other:
name: Nadine
hair: blonde, long to the hips
size: ~ 1,65 m
figure: slender, siliconized D-breast
origin: lithuanian
born: ~ 1982
tattoos/piercings:
service: full pro. more hardcore than GFE
other:
Novize,
I don't know when you last saw Angelika, but if we are talking about the same girl (slim, lanky, from Siberia and former star at Atlantis), then you should know she changed her hair colour: Last weekend she was wearing her hair short and light-red coloured.
One question: When I was at Palace last weekend, I saw two Lithuanian young blondes who claimed to be sisters and were trying to sell their sibling package as a threesome. Nadine was across the room, so she was not one of them. Any chance these were Diana and Marina?
Ortos,
Thanks for the info about Angelica. I'll have to change the descrition. It is some time ago, since I met her personally.
I never recognized Diana and Marina claimed to be sisters. If they do so now, it´s a new trick.
Ortos: You are talking the same girl; A's hair is short and somewhere between black and brown with some red in it.
Marina and Diana selling themselves as sisters? I don't think so, Marina calls Nadine her cousine but who knows?
And there are 2 Dianas at Palace, the one described by Novize was also at Atlantis.
Take a look at the website, Marina and Nadine are not on it but two or three other blondes, maybe you find your sisters there.
Hessen Bub
At Ortos:
The other Diana is very slim, has blond hair and wears braces. As "Diana 1" she is from Lithuania. Perhaps this "Diana 2" is the so-called "sister" of Marina. At least they can be booked for a threesome.
Hey guys,
Word is that Diana has really improved as a provider. I went with her once back in April. She was ok but nothing spectatular. In fact, if I were to be really critical, I would say that she was somewhat boring back then.
The last time I saw her at Palace she booked constantly and
I have heard that she has become much more interesting in the room.
Hessen Bub, Novize, perhaps ypu guys have some updated information.
Thanks guys,
Dedalus
Yes, Novize, you are probably right: this little Lithuanian "sister" was quite thin and young. I wonder whether I missed anything by not trying her...probably did.
Thanks for your insight,
Ortos
ortos and i visited palace on 3 july sunday at around 11:30pm. it was very slow, although after i did my two sessions some cute blonde eurobabes appeared from some of the rooms but i left at 2am. i sort of regretted leaving world with ortos at 10 pm , but in the spirit of cameraderie and exploration decided to ride back to frankfurt, knowing i would spend 12 hours at world monday.
despite the lack of eurofarmgirls so abundant at world, i i did eke out two incredible sessions with second tier (looks wise) girls at palace.- first was angelika the slim 30'ish -tiny a cup hard core girl who ortos afterwards informed me was a topper last year at atlantis. angelika was a bit of a wiseass with her broken english- "you look bin laden??" or pepppppy--- my life!" when she found i was amerikanske schwantzke. wet wet slow dreamy kisses from this natasha- look- a like from the rocky and bullwinkle movies. but very sweet and sensual- one of the best slow dreamy kissers and bj artists i ever met- sweet belly kisses and sac and butt muching galore, she is a wild ride as well but angelika did not finish me. angelika's english is fragmented, before we started in the room after about ten minutes of couch action, she wrote on a napkin the pricelist and cracked up as she tried to explain the 50 euro surcharge for facial sprtiz and i said "you mean franzosiche totale" and she laughed and said- ahhhh a sex tourist.!
at 1 am it was still slow, so despite having eaten at world earlier where the food pretty much sucked - noodles with brown gravy was all i saw- with iceberg lettuce salad, eaten along with a ham baquette that ortos luckily suggested we pick up in frankfurt hbf. in contrast, at palace i had a sumptuous dinner- beef stew, potatoes, five diffrerent salads, prosciutto and cheeses, great italian bread, peas and carrots, melon slices. palace has the best food of all the clubs for sure.
after dinner, somewhat disappointed with the lack of euro schoolgirls, i though of going back to world but i was being watched by an exotic coffee colored island girl with c-cup boobs, a sweet face, lilting accent , and charming personality. linda hails from the seychelle isalnds and is 21. after dinner, she sauntered over and engaged me as i sat under the new arabian tent now covering the first group of couches and swinging beds nearest the food on the right as you head to the bar (for you carnalone) . she joined me, we talked, and then we we petted each other and kissed lightly i stroked her smooth skin kissed her luscious lips and sucked her chebs at will we watched the disappointed turkish guy who didn't like the lineup making an ass and a nuisance of himself throwing pillows at the girls, grabbing them as they walked by, and opening his towel and shaking his dick in their direction in a most unstudly fashion. in the locker, the turk asked me for a better place and i gave him rudimentary directions to world- he showed up the next day monday and was better behaved and much more satisfied with the lineup.
linda and i had more than 30 minutes of couch action and because she knew i was full from dinner - "you took two plates baby", she waited. when ortos wandered over to say goodnight linda had me rock hard and ready for action. after my new friend and fkk mentor left to hang out in frankfurt centrum, i stretched the couch action to 45 minutes before i finally took linda to a room. she left to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url], for me always a turn off at the start of a session unless she lets me watch. linda privuded full gfe kissing and with wild no hands slamming hard deeeeep throat action. as she gagged she said, who stated "i like my sex, that's why i work here" , another ass licker, very proud of her pussy "its a small one!, its an unusual one". la la la la la. once we got to the fuck, linda proceeded to come loudly, and gutterally in every position we did it in. she inspired me to bang her silly and that i did, after our half hour was done, she showed me just how satisfied she was- i am sooooo wet, you are a fit man for 51- whew whew. fantastic all that for 50 euro and a new nation to add to my listje.
so palace was a bit thin on this sunday when compared to my previous sunday night visit in early may. could it be that many girls are working the outdoor venues for now?
watch for my report of three visits to fkk world soon.
beffen 1
Went to Palace earlier this week, and I'm sorry for the short report, but I only stayed a short while.
I got there just after the place opened on Thursday. There were about 5-6 girls working, and only one was a looker. Her name was Helena (5-5, shorter brown hair, nice smile, from Minsk in Russia) I walked around and took in the sites for the better part of an hour, since it was my first visit there.
Finally, I got offered a two-girl deal with one of the standard Russian blondes (sorry, can't remember the name) and her "girlfriend". Lo and behold, it was Helena. Great times had by all three of us, and I would definately go back. Palace is a great place.
Calling all Frankfurt reader,
Got a question. I will be in FFM tomorrow and am curious to know if Marina might be in the Palace. I will of course call tomorrow, but the last time they told me that she was there, she wasn't. Perhaps Novice or Hessen Bub have some insite in to her Terminplan. I read on the German forum several weeks ago that she was working days during the week. Just wanted to know if this still is the case.
Vielen Dank in voraus,
Dedalus
Marina and Cindy were present last night. I think that Cindy may not be there so consistantly during the next few weeks. She was talking about a possible Urlaub.
Marina should be there off and on till the end of August.
Cheers,
Dedalus
Sorry, I'm too late. Marina is often working on Wednesdays, Thursdays, Fridays and Saturdays. So I hope you found her.
Hessen Bub, waiting for the report.
Thanks Bub,
I will put together a report about my 2 evenings of pleasure in the Palace soon. Suffice it to say that both Cindy and Marina are as limber as ever.
Cheers,
Dedalus
So, did you book Marina? If so where is the report?
Hessen Bub
Trip report 4 of 6: Palace 23. July.
Arrived at Palace at 23:00 alone this time as my colleagues had other things to tend to. The interior is great, finally something that looks like it can take over where Atlantis left. Identified immediatly few Ex-Atlantis girls. The only drawback is the lack of outside area. I like the fact that you can sit at the bar an have an overview of 70% of the place. Staff is very friendly and the whole package gave me a good feeling. The place still needs a little more activity to compare to Atlantis, but I'm guessing it will get there.
Lillith - Moldavian - A: Very thin but rather tall (over 170 cm). Dark hair. Natural looking girl. We went to one of the small rooms behind the bar as all other rooms were busy. She did a little dance number in the room. Very involved GFE, good bbbj. Nice sex. She is very flexible so you can mold her in many different positions. After first shot, decided to extend to 1 hour session. Asked about anal. She said ok, but if after we started she reserved the right to stop and then I would not have to pay the quoted 100e anal upgrade. It did not come to that as she had no problem.
Elena - Greek - B: Full body. Was not going to do her at first. She came to me while recovering from Lillith and I knew there was no way she would get me going so I did not bother much to ditch her (just told her I just finished a session and would not do another one right now). She kept coming over in every 5 minutes, giving me kisses, playing with my member etc. After a while I felt kind of obligated to return the favour, and was actually starting to like her personality. Her face or body is average. The session was ok with kissing, bbbj, DATY and sex. Accidentaly hit her in the nose with my elbow while moving from DATY. She did a great job of hiding the pain and kept on going. This accident however resulted in longer than average session because my member went immediatly limb as I thought I had really hurt her (it was quite a blow to her nose).
The rooms at Palace are the best I have ever been to in any FKK. All equipped with large fans, large beds and lots of mirrors. Lighting is very good (and versatile) in the rooms. The Sauna is the best one yet and the Kino is even better than at Oase (although it still lacks the same level of activity). You can get 2 types of massage in Palace: Regular and Turkish bath. From what I herd from others (both customers and some of the girls), the Turkish bath massage is great. You get the regular massage from a woman but the Turkish one from a man.
At all the places I met Ex-Atlantis girls (World, Oase and Palace), the ones working at Palace are the ones that are happiest about their new place. They all miss Atlantis and the atmosphere that was there. "It was like a one big familiy with lots of fun. Here it is only boring wait and fuck" said one Ex-Atlantis girl I met at World. Celine had similar things to say about Oase. The Ex-Atlantis girls working at Palace seem to really like the place, but say that it needs a bit more activity and fun element to it.
Trip report 5 of 6: Palace 24. July.
Arrived with 3 colleagues (same as mentioned in reports from Oase and World and I call X, Y and Z). We arrived at 19:00. The selection was a little thinner than last night, but girls were still comming in (they can arrive until 20:00, but after that, they are not let in).
Gina - Polland - C: Great body (one of the best ones in the place). Nice looking face. Excellent tits (just the right size and firm). I usually follow Isseue advice about selecting based on personality and look in girl's eyes, but this one was just so damn hot that I had to have sex with her. The session was rather quick, uninspired and her personality was boring. Did not get any conversation going. Her English was rather bad and I was never able to break the ice. But her damn nice tits made up for a lot.
"no name" from Dominican Republic - B: Colleague Z did her and gave her a pretty good review. Nothing spectacular, but would repeat.
Joy from Thailand - B: Three of us did go with Joy (one at a time).This one is very hard to give grade. One might give her A based on personality and involvment, but C based on body and face. This girl is fun to be around, and gives a good blowjob, plays with your ass a lot (even gave colleague Y a prostate massage). Her nipples are the strangest ones I have seen and for me a bit of a turnoff (extremely large but thin where they attach to the breast). I would repeat, but not right away. We agreed to a grading of B. Later, Joy was ready to talk a lot and acted like an old friend on later visit. Very nice girl with an outgoing personality. Speaks good English.
A note on the high heel thing: Girls at Palace are required to were the high heels. I wish they wouldnt, it makes many of them look ridicoulus, especially those who cannot walk on those bloody things. Do you guys know if the same rules apply to the other clubs i.e. are they required to were those things?
Trip report 6 of 6: Palace 25. July.
Arrived at the club around midnight. Was prepared for slim pickings as Sundays are usually not very good for FKK'ing. I was pleasantly surprised. At least 15 girls working, but very few customers and the atmosphere was extremely relaxed. took a seat at the bar and was approach by a girl who I later found out to be the famous Ex-Atlantis girl Angelika.
A quick note: I really did not start to read the content of this board cerefully until a few months ago (just browsed through the material). In my trips to Atlantis, I was therefor unaware of the favourable reviews this girl has got. I'm happy to inform that they are all true. This girl is just great. I remembered her look from Atlantis, but totally unaware that this was Angelika.
Angelika sat with me at the bar knowing that I just got in and was not going to commit to a session right then and now. She gave me a lot of light touching and was very playful without putting any pressure on going to a room at all. At this time, I do not know her name. After about a half a hour, I'm ready to go to a room and decide that this girl will be the lucky one. As we lay down, I mention that I remember her from Atlantis and tell her so. "I miss Atlantis" she says. "Yeah, me to" I say. She looks at me kind of strange and says "no, really, I miss Atlantis two times". Stupid me takes a while to understand that she is telling me she was voted miss Atlantis two years in a row, but all of a sudden I get it and now I realized I had not asked her for her name. "Angelika" she says. "Oh, you are the famous Angelika" I say. "Yeah, I'm like a moviestar" she said laughing.
She gets an A+ for everything she does. The ultimate GFE, extremely sensual with her hands and mouth. Likes to cuddle afterwards and will not hurry you in any way, not before, during or after. She has very short black hair with some highlights on top. Not the greatest looker in the place, but for sure one of the greatest performer. Not to be overlooked (I had dismissed her the two previous evenings). Sex was great and ended with CIM. She played a bit with the cum pornstar style, having it drip down her chin.
Jermaine - German - B: Short dark hair, DD breasts, unusual much hair on pussy (but it is like silk when you touch - not unlike an Asian pussy). I had had a fun conversation with Jermaine the previous night and decided to sit with her now and see if we would get some kind of chemistry going. Laid next to her for about an hour just talking, giving her light massage and gentle touching. No pressure to go to room. She speaks excellent English and is a lot of fun to talk to. She just started at Palace 3 days ago (she's the one who told me she had to wear the high heals). Ended up having a very good session with her. She prefers to to cbj instead of bbbj. I did not push the issue (I'm okay with cbj ones in a while). I asked her before we started the session what her likes and dislikes were and she told me she does not take it up the ass (touching ok) and prefers to use condom during bj so I knew before I committed to the session.
Final note: I had a lot of fun during the trip discovering the girls true nationality. I do this by listening to their dialects when talking to other girls and also by talking about the country thing with the more honest girls. This is what I found out:
1: There are a lot of Romenian girls working at the FKKs. Very often they claim to be from Italy or Spain, and even from Czheck Rep.
2: Many of the German girls are aware of the bad reputation they are getting on the boards. Many of them have changed nationalities to Polland, Czeck Rep and Russia
3: Girls from Jamaica, Dominican Republic and Bahamas are usually from Africa.
It is not a big deal for me where the girl is from. This just something I have fun figuring out.
Chivaz's rating of the clubs (note that I have not visited other FKK clubs):
1. Palace
2. Oase (close second)
3. World
4. Flamingo Island
That concludes Chivaz's round of FKK's for the time being.
Over and out
Chivaz
Palace, 23 July 28, 2004
My visit to Palace was laced with a purpose: Seek out Cindy and Marina.
Other priorities: Find the famous Michelle (German version) and maybe Nadine (Blond, Babewatch-type babe.
Arrived a Palace around 7:00 PM. The list of ladies that were present was respectable but not overwhelming. Carina, Angelika, MARINA, and a few other familiar faces who I do not know by name. No sign of Cindy. Arrgh!! After changing, getting a liquid refreshment from the bar, and enjoying a few low-calorie cigarettes I started to focus on Marina, who was, as always occupied with some lucky chap. I knew that she would be busy for at least 30 min. so I dug in for the wait.
Then I spotted her. Cindy came around the corner in all her naked glory. Mamma mia, she is a site to behold. For those of you who do not know her, she is a blond bombshell with an amazing hour-glass body. Grandiose breasts that fit her body type perfectly. Her long, luscious legs are stupendous. In addition to all of these strong accoutrements she has the charming ability to make you feel like you are the only man in the room. Those who have been with her will vouch for me.
I got up to make my move but somebody was quicker than I was. Mist! Cindy would probably be “dauergebucht” that evening. Getting to her would involve laying in wait.
30 min. later I caught her as she was going to change and freshen up. She told me that she would be out in a sec. and that she would come find me. After a few minutes wait she led me to the larger swinger couch for a bit a heavy petting and a chat. On my last visit to Palace I could not get on her dance card but sat next to her while she was charming some English-speaking dude. Her Englischfähigkeit is quite good and I took the chance to compliment her. We speak German with each other but I love the accent with which she speaks English. Very sexy! She told me that she might be away for a short vacation soon. (Probably this week.)
After a little more small talk she led me to the Kino for a bit more intimacy. As we nestled onto a mattress with enough Abstand from the others present, she undid my towel and started to rub her luscious body all over mine. Heaven on earth, my friends. She kisses long and slow. She knows her craft very well. She started to display her expert blowjob technique. It was hard not to notice the stares of the envious other males who started to come into the room. I have no real problem with this but after several minutes of enjoying this lady’s attention I notice some guy who decided that he wanted to get a little closer to the action come and sit right next to me. A bit too close for comfort really. Cindy sensed that it was time to move our love fest to a more intimate atmosphere.
We found a nice room with plenty of mirrors to satisfy whatever Narcissistic needs that either if us might have. She continued her body on body massage and gave me an incredible tit-fuck. Knowing how sweet the nectar of her Mons Venus tasted, I maneuvered her into a 69 position. Unable to control myself much longer, I had her slip on a condom and she began to wildly ride me. What a creature! She really gives you the impression that she loves what she is doing. After flipping her over into a missionary position she wrapped her long legs around me and we continued making the “beast with two backs” for several more exquisite minutes until I gave way and came.
Not feeling rushed at all we lay together, talking and cuddling for awhile longer. What more can I say. She is really a stunning woman.
50 euros for approx. 35 Minutes. Money well spent.
More soon to come.
Dedalus
The Palace on a Thursday evening and a Monday evening.
A few weeks ago I was in Frankfurt and was able to get to the Palace twice. On the first day, Thursday, there were plenty of customers and plenty of women. The club had a party like atmosphere and Angelique was my first of the day.
Angelique is the deepest DFKer I've ever had at any club. There is never any rushing and she's not satisfied until you are. The only down side is that communication can at times be touchy as her English is so-so. We spent the first 15 minutes making out like a couple of teenagers. She was on top and and as soon as I was hard, she started grinding her hips. She seemed to sense when our dry hump was about to get wet and slid down to start a BBBJ. Here she also shines as she understands that the family jewels are just as important as the rest. She likes to take one ball at a time in her mouth and work it over with that magic tongue. Again she continued until I was just about to cum and she stopped and put on a condom. She likes doggy so we started that way before switching to cowgirl which I like. We finished by having her lie on her stomach and dry humping between her ass cheeks until I unloaded on her back. All this for a mere 50 Euros.
Between Angelique and the jet lag, I needed to rest for a while before looking for the next girl so I took a short nap in the Kino room. When I came out they were puting out the buffet so a snack was in order. The buffet itself was very nice and the way some people seem to attack the food is a sight to see in its own right. Think hyenas. The last I had read about Marina was that she had moved on to Oase so was I suprised when she came out of a room with another girl and four guys. I've heard of sloppy seconds but I was about to become an (at least) sloppy fifth.
She needed a break after her marathon session but promised she'd see me later. She grabbed some food from the buffet and went into the back room by the first bar. About 30 minutes later she came out and off we went to a room, except they were all full so we started on one of the couches near the entrance to the rooms across from the kino. We had progressed from DFK to BBBJ and she was reaching for a condom when another couple walked by and we took the room they had just left. After we had the towels down and she had taken off her shoes, our rhythm was broken so we started over from the top. DFK leading into 69 which was not practical on the couch. After multiple positions the condom came off for some more 69 and then she asks if I want to cum in her mouth. Who am I to say no? She put her mouth directly over and swirled her tongue around me like she was liking a lolly pop while I jerked off. As I started to cum she closed her mouth around me and took every drop. All this from a girl with a body to die for. I asked her about Oase and she said everyone there was mean to her (both management and the other girls) but she liked the Palace and missed Atlantis.
After Marina I wasn't really looking for anyone else but I saw Patrizia and went over to just say hi. After talking for a while she said her pussy was tired and if I wanted to go to the room with her it would have to be with her and another girl. I made that mistake with her once as the other girl is for her pleasure, not mine. I bowed out and left as it was now getting late.
Monday was a whole different story. There were very few customers and fewer woman also. There was just very little going on and the place felt dead. Angelique was the only woman there I knew so, as usual, she was my first for the day. Thirty minutes later I was a sweating quivering mass of contentment.
The only other girl of the day was Isabel. She is German and on most of the pictures in the gallery section of the Palace's website, she is in the middle of the front row. She has a heart shaped ass which should be one of the wonders of the world. Her English is not great but it is possible to have a rudimentary conversation. She suggested going to the Kino room and we ended up staying there for the whole session. She does French kiss but not with abandon. Her BBBJ was also reserved. As it turned out, just about everything she did had the feeling that she was holding back a bit. I've been with other women like this who get better and better each subsequent time as they become more comfortable with me. On the other hand, some stay reluctant no matter how many times I've seen them. I'll go with her again to find out which category she falls into as she seems to have real potential.
Had Cindy, Michelle, or some of the other all stars been around it could have been better but the unexpected visit with Marina was worth the trip.
I'm planning on paying a visit to Palace or Oasis in a week or so . . . here's my dilemma: I don't want to actually have sex, but have something like a up-close-and-personal pussy show. Is there any FKK location that is especially friendly to lookers? I.e., someplace where toy shows are a speciality, etc. Any suggestions appreciated!
Gamma Ray,
If you pay for the action it should be no big deal to get you satisfied in Palace or Oase. Just ask the girl who's looks you like best.
Hessen Bub
Hi everyone,
I'm planning to go to Germany next week. As the weather is hot and sunny, which FKK should I choose : World, Palace or Oase ? (number of girls and outside facilities)
GR and HB,
I am not sure whether a dildo show is possible in FKK's. I have never seen girls who carry dildo's with them in FKK's. I have seen a lot of rooms in the RLD's that have arrays of dildo's specially for shows. Since it is not my cup of tea, and since I have never met anyone who went to an FKK but didn't want sex, it is tought for me to give a more qualified answer. You can pay for a lesbo show though, I do know that that is possible with a lot of the girls.
Dadou,
Oase or World are both excellent in good weather. It's a toss up and depends on the talent on that day, which cannot be predicted. I would pick whichever one is more convenient to get to.
Peter
Peter,
GR asked for a "up-close-and-personal pussy show". Does this mean a dildo is a must? I know some girls (latinas) carrying smaller and bigger vibrators with them and also knowing how to use them.
Just ask, it doesn't cost a penny.
Hessen Bub
Peter,
I once met a Japanese guy on business (probably early 30s) who said he didn't fuck any of the girls there. I thought he was bullshitting (and so did many of the girls when I told them about him) but I really did see him sitting in one corner the whole time, sippin' on the same beer and just ogling the girls. He said he had a girlfriend back home, and that was hi reason for 'just looking'. I thought he was crazy for driving all the way out here from Frankfurt where his hotel was, just to watch the girls, but I guess he takes his relationship very seriously.
Bruce
**Report below**
Gamma, When you go to a room with a girl, you pay 50 Euro for half an hour, what you do with the time I think is up to you. I personally like to watch the girl more than fuck her, especially goddess type women, and I have some of my own fetishes that I got to explore inside the rooms of the FKK, Here is one:
Last June in PHG, I saw a beautiful dominant type blonde standing at the bar, talking to her girlfriend with a cigarette in her hand. All my attempts to make eye contact with her failed, so I finally approached her, and tried to talk to her in English, she talked back in German, so I realized she doesn't speak English. But the way she carried herself pushed all of my submissive buttons, she was more of the deep eye stare with a dominant personality, and a tall, model type body. When she stares at you, you'd think you're the only person that exists in that room, and when she ignores you, you think you never exist. So I asked if we can go to a room, and was hoping she would say yes, I guess her dominant attitude just got me so scared that she would refuse to see me, but maybe it was just my own imagination experiencing a flash back of the many similar incidents in L.A.'s night clubs ;) except in those incidents, it never got beyond my initial Hello!
Anyways, we finally got to a room, and I was already feeling the tingling in my body from what's to come, She put towels on the bed, asked me to set on the towels and started blowing me, I really wanted to switch around the whole situation, so I stopped her, made her set with me on the bed, I asked her age, she said she was 30, green eyes, very nice body, and really had a very sexy look in her eyes, extremely sexy that all I wanted to do was to jerk myself off while staring at her eyes. I stood about 5 feet away from her while she stood up on her high heels looking at me surprised, it was day time, so I could get a good look at her gorgeous tall naked body, big round tits, long legs, tight stomach, an extremely hot German golden tan, long blond hair, and round wide open green eyes. She kept looking at me a bit surprised with a solid face, no smile, and the time, she had never blinked even once.
The way she looked at me melted me, almost caused me to cream in my towel when I first got a look from her by the bar. I kept staring at her without saying a word for almost 10 minutes. silence was causing me to experience intense moments. I asked her to turn around and face the wall, she slowly did, Her ass was arching as she leaned against the wall with both hands up. I felt like I was in a room with a porn model while she was getting a photo shoot done. I sat on the floor looking at her from below, she would turn her head and stare down at me with her killer eyes, while her ass was completely in my face, high heels lifting her arch up. we did that for a while, no touching, extreme bondage moment, then she turned around again, leaned her back to the wall, crossed her feet, put her hand on her hip, asked if she can smoke a cigarette, I said of course, she lit her cigarette, and started blowing away smoke in the most sexy way I've ever seen, all while staring down at me as I was jerking my self off, I was 5 feet away from her with the biggest hard on I've ever had. Her wild amazon eyes never left mine, as she smoked, and just like that, I shot the biggest load in her direction, arriving inches at the floor near her heels.
It took us a whole hour, but at the end, I've had one of the biggest orgasms in my life, even though we never really had any sex, just the thought of having access to this model, breathing the same air I breath, standing only a couple of meters from me, was what I needed, impossible in the U.S., so I had to let all the pressure come out somehow in an alternative kind of way.
In PHG a half an hour costs 25 Euro, so my whole experience cost me 50 Euro... a very cheap price to pay to Indulge yourself... and get these fantasies out... before flying back to sexual prison, where tease is all around, but relief is never in sight.
All the best,
Traveling male
Hessen Bub,
I read the post again, and you are right. I just thought a decent pussy show included decent penetration.
Travelling Male,
Interesting story, but you could have had more than just being in her presence, you could have been in her.
I am surprised that the cost for that would have been 50€. I am assuming the BJ she started was uncovered, which would mean the session should have been 75€.
Gamma Ray,
If you are getting a Pussy show at PHG you should have the decency to pay the whole 50€ fee for the first half hour. She is not blowing you without a condom, but she is showing you something very intimate.
Bruce Ley,
There are a lot of guys who go to clubs and don't have any sex, but they generally don't go to the rooms at all. At PHG there are qute a few customers who come up to 3 times a week just to drink and meet friends and treat it as a all you can drink bar with a cover charge of 50€. I meant I have never met anyone who goes to a room in an FKK without wanting sex, although the more I think about it the more I can think of examples where it happens.
Peter
Peter, You are right, the BJ was covered, so that's how it amounted to 50 Euro. One of the things I'm concerned about when in these clubs is safety, so I always insisted on covered BJs.
Also, Prior to my session with her, I've had sex with many other girls, and by then, I was seeking a different kind of experience, and money wasn't an issue, so I thought I can spice things up a little with some visual memories. The funny thing was that out of all the sessions I had during my 4 days visits last June, this one stood up as the most memorable experience by far. maybe because it involved so much visual and mental stimulation, and that tends to last longer in your mind than physical stimulation.
Im coming back again in September, and this time, I'm going to explore more of this side of me. A little variety is always good in life, after all, isn't that why we all can't seem to keep it only to one woman? lol
Life is good,
Traveling Male
Hi,
I will be visiting FRANKFURT later this month and wish to enjoy the experience at palace (which so far, from the reports i have read, sounds unbelievable).
However I have certain inhibitions:
How safe is it in terms of STD's etc as I keep reading reports of girls giving BJ'S without condoms and french kissing? Are the girls tested regularly?
I have read that the number one carrier of any disease is through body fluids (like saliva, semen, etc). Thus I would appreciate it if someone gives me honest and sincere information about the safety.
Thank You
A last comment oin the discussion about going to the rooms and no sex.
I can confirm that sometimes people do go and don't have sex. Basically you are paying money to the girls for time and if you don't want sex that's up to you. I recently spent three hours with Ambra at World and didn't have sex - and then went back for another hour with no sex. I just enjoyed talking to her.
When with Andrea at World there was also a two hour session with no sex - simply because she didn't feel like it on that particular occasion (I always left the choice to her).
So - anything goes
Mr. 747,
Not that this will help your anxiety, but, I have been to The Palace, PHG, World, K-5, Privats, etc, and have yet to catch one STD. I just had some minor surgery, had multiple blood tests that surely would have indictated any problems. I am ready for more !
It's your life so do what you want !
Carnal1
Boeing747,
Tons of information in the WSG [b]Special Interests[/b] forums, in particular the [b]Oral Sex[/b] and the [b]Safe Sex[/b] ones. Just have a look there.
Jim
I have been in Rio's thermas, FKK (atlantis, world, PHG, Palace, OASE), k-5, Thailand, Amsterdam, many times and fucked more than 1000 prostitutes, and still std and hiv free. Several blood tests including for life insurence company demonstrated. I usually lick and suck pussy extensively and let girl do bbj and dfk.
Hi guys,
In September I'll probably have a looong morning stopover at Frankfurt airport that would allow me to go to Palace between 10:00 and 12:00 on a Friday.
Has any of you guys ever been there that early? What can I expect in terms of quantity and quality of girls?
Thanks for your comments!
Stiff6
Hello Gents,
I'm planning a trip to Frankfurt in a couple of days and looking forward to sampling, at least once, the delights on offer at The Palace. I got just one question. Never having been in a club of this type, what is the atmosphere like? Is this a place where both the guys and the girls walk around naked ala a swing club like Plato's Retreat waiting to get it on, or just the girls? Many thanks for your anticipated replies.
Stiff,
10:00 to 12:00 is the worst time to visit a club. I think the best advice is: stay away!
When I visit a club that early, I just go there to relax, stay longer and postpone the action to a later hour. There are only few girls available, and most of them are tired, want to have breakfast or something else.
So, if you can´t stay longer at Palace, save 65 €.
Stiff 6,
Thanks for the info on Vienna, now I can return the favor !
I wandered into the Palace around 13:00 on a Friday afternoon
and found about 10 girls working the day shift. Not a great selection that early but a helll of a lot better than sitting in the airport. I had just spent the night before at World FKK and
was taking it easy at my hotel in anticipation of heading to the Palace that night. Walking around Central Frankfurt is nothing special. I wandered around for a few hours and decided that I would rather be sitting in a club with naked girls sauntering around instead of walking aimlessly thru the Central Business District.
Even thou the number of girls was low, it was a good experience
just sitting in the large Jacuzzi, taking a sauna, and then watching the parade of lovely women walk in one by one as the
afternoon progressed. You can always catch a movie in the Kino :-)
N-Joy,
Carnal1
@Stiff6:
This in my opinion is the worst time to go to Palace. Very few girls on shift, especially with these temperatures (it's hot in Germany) and no outdoor facilities.
During the day I prefer Oase or FKK-World, Palace is great in the late afternoon or evening.
"Quality" of girls IMHO is much better at night-shift.
Hessen Bub
Never been to Palace early but on my last visit to Palace, when leaving, one of the girls working the counter suggested that we could arrive early, have breakfast/brunch at Palace, and then return again later during the day/evening.
I know that most clubs allow you to leave and come back, but this was the first where someone actually encoureged us to do so. Guess they might be trying to get some traffic for the girls early on. Nothing beats a fine pussy with your breakfast :-) and the breakfast is of course included in the admission fee.
btw: In my opinion the staff at Palace is the friendliest of all the FRA vicinity clubs
Chivaz
Hessen Bub and Carnal,
thanks for the information - it seems that on this trip I don't have much choice regarding time or place, but in October I will!
Carnal I think you are right that it's definitely better than sitting at the airport and I'll give it a try! Thinking about it: Why has actually noone opened an FKK club directly at the airport yet? They'd be full all day round with weary travellers like you and me! :-)
Stiff6
** Morning Sex at the Palace Report below **
Stiff6,
Sorry this is a month and a hlaf old experience I had, but I thought it could be helpful to since you asked the question about morning experience in the Palace.
There was a hot girl in the Palace that I saw around 11:00 AM last June who told me she enjoyed sex in the morning more than any other time, so she would always starts her shift early.
She is a hot brunet from Poland, sorry I forgot her name :( , but she was about 5'5", very nice petite body, I'd give her an 7.5~8 on looks. I saw her ass first in the Kino while getting a bJ from a German blond. Her ass was high in the air on the upper stairs in the Kino, while she was blowing her guy at the time. It was a prefect site, I was being blown by the blond I was with, while watching her ass as she slid her mouth up and down on him, then she was turned around into missionary, and she made first eye contact with me while she was getting fucked, what a sexy face! She obviously liked being watched, and made lots of pleasure noises.
I started thinking, I really want to do that girl! by then, my girl started riding me cowgirl style, and in a few minutes later I came with her on top of me. I gave my girl her 50 E, showered, went and had some breakfast, then went back to the same spot in the Kino hoping to see the brunette, but she wasn't there. By then there were at least 7-9 girls in the club, and maybe about 3-4 guys.
10 minutes later in the Kino, she appeared looking for her next prey, and even though I just unloaded, I was still tingly and turned on by the visual stimulation from watching her get fucked earlier, so when she showed up, I was already half way in my fantasy about her, and boom, fantasy turns into reality :) and she is sitting next to me! She started playing with me, then slipped her hand under my towel and started running her hand on mr Happy, feeling how hard I was by then, she immediatly opened my towel and started giving me a nice CBJ (I always insist on CBJs, although the 50 E would include BBBJ) I was so turned on by her that I almost came from the CBG alone after less than 2 minutes! so stopped the action and turned her over and fucked her missionary in the same spot she was fucked in an hour ago. I was going slow because I didn't want to finish so quick, and she really seemed to enjoy it, which didn't help me trying to hold on longer! So I turned her on her knees and hands for doggie, so I can take off some of the pressure of seeing her sexy eyes and body, at which point the site of her arched up ass facing me made me lose it! so I exploded inside of her. We did the whole session in the Kino.
Since we still had plenty of time left, we sat afterwards and talked. She told me she is a student who is planning a trip to South America later this year, and that she was saving some money for her trip. She also told me she loved sex in the mornings, and that's why she likes to come early, and that she doesn't do the evening shifts. I gave her my mobile number in the U.S. for a possible meet up here someday.
I'd give her a 8 on looks, a 9 on attitude, and a 9.5 on sexiness.
That was my first time at the palace. Good luck! and don't forget to report back here about your experience if you wind up going there that early.
All the best,
Traveling Male
Mucky Duck,
In general, girls walk around naked, guys have just a towel.
There are sometimes special events like "Dessous night" (August 27), "Leather&Polish night" (in October), etc... where girls are not totally naked. Check with the club for the night(s) you intend to come.
Jim
Hi,
I was just wondering i someone could tell me what is the best and most economical way to get to PALACE from the FRANKFURT INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT.
Also do you have to carry you own condoms or they provide you?
Lastly is the area around the PALACE safe to roam round at night or not?
Thank You.
If any on could also give tips on ho to ngotiate with the girls etc please let me know, it is my first time and i am excited(and a touch nrvous)
747:
Most economical way to get to the Palace: you walk ;-)
Seriously, though: take a train from the Terminal A building at the airport to the "Hauptbahnhof" (= main train station). Then take a taxi; they are conveniently located right outside the train station building.
happy humping
euro
747:
Oops, sorry, forgot to answer your other questions:
> Also do you have to carry you own condoms or they provide you?
No, you don't. They provide all condoms. But if you want to bring your own, tha tis usually fine, too.
> Lastly is the area around the PALACE safe to roam round at night or not?
Yes, pretty safe. But why the heck would you want to? This is just a residential/light industrial area. No real attractions outside the walls of Palace.
> If any on could also give tips on ho to ngotiate with the girls etc please let me know, it is my first time and i am excited(and a touch nrvous)
Well, everyone had his first time once. We all were somewhat nervous. But once you are inside the place, this will all go away very fast.
Here are some pointers:
1. When you enter, the girl who takes your entrance fee will ask you if you have been there before. You should say no! They will not send you away or try to take advantage of you. But she or some other girl will give you a tour and tell you about the standard practices.
2. Negotiations: easy! 50 euro for each half hour. Start with a half hour session. For your first time, I predict you will shoot off your load very quickly. (You need to negotiate for extras, usually 50 euros each for things like anal, or coming in their mouth, or tit-fuck to completion). Uncovered blow job ("BBBJ") is included in the 50 euro price for the first half hour.
3. Iron rule: once a girl has your dick in her mouth, it is understood that you will spend at least 50 euro on a session with her.
4. All the food is free. Non-alcoholic drinks as well. And talking to the girls is free. You enjoy yourself more if you do, and if you smile a lot at them.
5. It is perfectly alright for them to approach you; and it is also alright for you to turn them down. What works best is to tell them that you just arrived, or that you are still recovering from your last session. "Maybe later" leaves a lot of options open for both of you.
6. Enjoy the facilities for the first hour after you arrive. Do not go to a room with a girl right away. Look around, check out who is there, get yourself comfortable. Get a drink form the bar, take a seat, observe a while. Enjoy the naked gorgeous female bodies around you. Ogling is a big part of the fun!
7. Many are, at first, apprehensive about walking around with only a towel on their rump and sandals on their feet. But quickly you will see that you are by far not the ugliest or oldes or shortest or baldest or hairiest or whatever guy in the house. Everybody has a good time, no matter what their bodies look like.
8. Towels: take a new one frequently. I's included in the entrance fee.
9. Most important: take a shower (with soap!!!) right after you enter, and after every session, or after you take a shit. Here and there a guy walks around and stinks. This guy does not need to wonder why he is not getting any action.
Now go get 'em! We expect a full report; it's always enjoyable to read about a guy having his virgin FKK experience.
euro
GandJim,
Could you tell more about "Dessous night" (August 27)? I will be in the area, and might go.
Thanks
1980
I have to agree with all or most of what Euro says, but actually the MOST economical way to get to Palace from the airport is:
1. S-bahn from Flughaven to Hauptbahnhof;
2. U-bahn to Industriehof (stop in Hausen) then walk five minutes to Palace. If memory serves you have to take the U6, which can be accessed through Hauptwache. So from Hauptbahnhof, you have to take any U-bahn or S-bahn heading into the city centre south, then change to U6 at Hauptwache. If you are going direct from the Airport to Palace, then the very S-bahn that takes you from the Airport to the Hbf. may well continue on to Hauptwache (2 stops beyond Hbf.), so, in this case, you may not wish to exit the train at the main Hauptbahnhof stop.
Anyway this is a bit cheaper than taking a taxi, but given that a taxi is approx. 10Euros only from Hauptbahnhof, we are only talking about a difference of 7-odd Euros?
Don't be nervous. Just do it! You'll be a natural...
Don't Negotiate. The prices are fixed. You can ask the girl at the door what the prices are.
I just want to make sure that the foreigners don't get the reputation of certain other ethnic groups for haggling with the girls. The prices are fair and open, stick with them. If guys try to cheat the girls then there it is fair for the girls to try the same the other way around. Stick witht he established prices. That is what makes FKK's so great.
Peter
Yep, prices are fixed, which also means don't give tips. If you're satisfied with the girl, just extend the session for another 1/2 hour or more, or take her again later, but don't give tips. Locals don't give tips and, "in Roma, do as the Roman do".
Locals do give tips sometimes. But they also do get special prices on longtime session sometimes. Anything can, nothing must. But don't try to negotiate ...
Hessen Bub
Hi Boeing, I´m sure you´re gonna love the FKKs.
The only thing you´ll need to negotiate is when you really want certain things in the session, and you are not sure if she does them. Best to check before you start, that way you avoid disappointment during the session.
My report from Palace on Wednesday
1) Angel (Germany). Has only recently joined the FKK, before she was working as an escort. She has a pretty good attitude, and good to talk with. I was happy with this session.
2) Diana (Lithuania). I was kind of disappointed. Diana knows how to talk sexy, and puts on a good performance. But I got the feeling she just wants to turn over the session as quickly as possible. I felt like I was in Amsterdam... "how much time do you want? can you come now?" after only about 10 minutes in the room. I think she knows she is in demand, and wants to do a lot of business and not work too hard.
This session ended up with her completely disengaging and staring off into space, while I just carried on for a few minutes and used her as a fuckdoll. She has really nice legs, but breasts are very artificial feeling. I can normally get a pretty good relationship with the girl, even though I don´t speak German, but Diana was the exception.
3) Linda (Seychelles). She is an awesome girl, I was ecstatic with this session. It was energetic, passionate sex, which is great for me. We both ended up dripping with sweat and completely satsified. Linda is mulatta which is pretty much my ideal type. She gives an excellent BBBJ.
"2) Diana (Lithuania). I was kind of disappointed."
@Cachorro: There are two Dianas at Palace, both from Lithuania. Which one did you have? The blonde tall longhaired barbie-like one or the smaller one with the braces?
Hessen Bub
I was with the tall long-haired Barbie one. I am guessing I chose the wrong Diana?
I'm not quite sure wether you chose the wrong Diana or not. I've had neither of them but friends have hat good sessions with both of them.
Hessen Bub
Went there for the first time last night (okay, who all was there????). It was really a great time. As previously reported, easy to find, front entrance lady gives you the rules and a quick tour, the ladies are all beautiful and its lots of fun.
I took the U-bahn (U6) to Industriehof. Its MAYBE a 3 minute walk. You can Google for a map of Frankfurt and find the street very easy, or its on any Frankfurt map. U-Bahn is 2 Euro from the Hauptbahnhof.
I spent probably three hours here. Girls are very friendly and easy to talk with. After almost an hour of looking, relaxing, and enjoying the sights I struck up a conversation with the biggest titted lady in the place. I'd watched her for several minutes and decided I'd wait until she was finished with a client as I wanted her for my first lady. Wow, it was worth the wait! Her name is Jermaine (previouisly mentioned here) and she is super! Maybe 5'6", short dark hair, tattoo on her left shoulder (scorpion) and her outside right ankle (heart & rose). Wears a kartouch on a large gold chain. Speaks English very well, is German, and is a lot of fun to talk with and enjoy. She says she has breast reduction surgery (Holy Crap, Batman!) and you can just barely see some scars. Further "probing" revealed they were the real deal and not fake as far as I could tell, so I guess she's really had them reduced. We enjoyed a lot of CBJ, DATY, cowgirl, and mish. She wasn't up for doggie as she said I was "too big" (okay, so now I feel like a man)! She spent some time after talking and touching. Really a lot of fun.
The second lady was Maria from Poland. She is short and just on the comfy side, blonde hair, nice C cups. Speaks pretty good English. This is her evening hobby part time job! Wow, what a lot of fun, too. We went into the Kino room and proceeded to finger, kiss, touch, and finally did 69 to completion! Wow, really different in a room full of people! She had no problems with being in the room but did ask if I wanted to go to a private room. She offered her digits but after I paid I forgot to get them! I'm kicking myself now! Anyone know her or have her number???!!!!???!!!
Over all, a good experience. My first in the FKK scene. I can't imagine it being much better anywhere else but then it probably is if you get out of town to some of the larger places. Everything here was clean. The food was adequate and filling, but I didn't come here for the food. Lots of ladies to hustle around and clean up as well as lots of ladies to chose from. Probably 15+ by the time I left (10 PM or so). Prices are as quoted here. I look forward to coming back again in the future!
Big Barbie Lithuanian Diana was my first anal experience at Palace, or anywhere. She did seem mercenary trying to sell upgrades, and after a point she became detached, but having this 10 beg you to give it to her anally for only 50 euro more got to me. It was great for about ten minutes until she spasmed and messed herself and me a bit, sort of came anally if there is such a thing. But I dug her look so I pounded her puddy for an hour more after we washed up. Pretty big lady, strong like bull.
Beffen 1
Hi Zarkoff,
Yes, the breasts on Jermaine are real. You can tell she has had a reduction by the way her scars run from "bottom up". Enlargment surgeries are never done that way to my knowledge, only reduction surgery.
I had a great time to with her, but I'm not sure everebody will as she said she'll only do cbj. She explained why she did not do bbbj, but the explanation seemed kind of personal so I won't go into details. At the time I wandered if she would run into some kind of problem at the club not providing bbbj as it is kind of norm in the FRA Fkks. Guess not since she's still there.
Chivaz
Well, after reading all the positive reports regarding FKK, I made my first visit to Palace last night. I couldn't find Oase, but I got lucky at Palace. I drew the white ball from the jar for free entry! Arriving around 12am, the food was nearly gone and the ratios was nearly 1-to-1. It's a nice set up; I spent about an hour just exploring and settling in.
Surprisingly, none of the ladies attempted to approach me and were content to lie on the couches and smoke. The first lady I talked with was a blonde 24-year old Nikki from Hungary. She wasted no time in the first thing she asked me was if I wanted to go to a room. Against my best instincts, I agreed. We started out with CBJ, to 69, to a multiple positions. Due to the rush and...lack of feeling...she wanted to finish off with HJ. I resisted and in the end, an uninspiring performance.
After spending another hour lounging, including in the sauna and kino, I decided upon Lattia?, a 30-year old brunette from Lithuania. This time, I didn't have to ask for BBBJ-excellent. From cowboy to missionary, she was very impatient. Closing time was 4 and we started at 3:35. Not quick enough for her, she finished with a well-lubed HJ. Again, an experience not worth remembering.
So, from two uninspired dates, only 15 minutes for my 2nd session, poor food, no alcohol it was an underwhelming experience for my first FKK time. Good thing I didn't have to pay the 65 euro entry! Maybe if I had been able to do one of the two Russian girls or the tall, slim German brunette, it might have been better. Maybe next time I'll find Oase instead of driving around for an hour-and-a-half.
Then again, I head bootyfest--I mean, Budapest is a good time too! :)
My first time back at the Palace since renovations. I had similar experiences here, so will just emphasize:
a) Same cold rush from Nikki from Hungary. Stay away. Maybe she will learn. As long as we give in to her pushing, she will get away with it.
b) Vanessa from Poland is incredibly cute, sensuous, non-rushed. GFE all around. I was tempted to just have her for the evening over and over.
c) Lola from Italy was nice. Very receptive to DATY. When they hold their own pussy lips open and move you into position and indicate what they want and the pace, well, it works for me!
d) I think she said her name was "Anna" and had spent time in Canada. Her English was excellent, as were her skills. GFE, cute. Said she was normally at OASE but had come over to check out the Palace.
It was good to go home drained.
A note on food. I started a session JUST as the evening buffet arrived. By the time I was done 30 minutes later, it was ALL GONE! Don't plan on going there for the buffet!
Mark
The Buffet is worth taking in. Just plan the first session before dinner, then have your meat and potatoes! Enjoy the scenery during dinner cause its fun to watch the girls hover around the food. Its actually quite a scene at most of the clubs !
n-joy
Carnal1
Last Thursday had my first visit to Palace. Took the S-Bahn train (3.25 euro) from the airport to the Hauptbahnhof. Then a 12 euro cab ride to Palace.
As chronicled here, the facilities are quite nice. Lacking in outdoor facilities, but the bedrooms are varied and better appointed than Oase or World.
I arrived around 1:30pm. Probably 20 girls and about 5 customers. No stunning models in sight, mostly 6-7's. I did talk to a few girls but wasn't too interested. Overall the girls here are friendly but not pushy.
Eventually I did see a girl who fit my desired profile. The young, slender type. Her name was Vanessa from Poland, 23 years I think. Great thin body, grey eyes and asandy brown hair. Very attractive but quick to the punchline. I'd waited for about 2-3 hours since my arrival, so I was impatient for a first round.
We went off to the small kino, behind the hot tub. Lots of pillows and a bench covered in fake white fur and a medium sized tv. She started off with a very nice bbbj while kneeling on the bench. Then I repositioned her for some 69. She kept asking me about upgrading to CIM for another 50. I said I was interested - I had abstained for a week prior so it would potentially be a worthy option.
But alas the combination of abstinence and some very enjoyable mish and doggy left me unable to hold out for the CIM. It was over in a very short 15 minutes and she was quickly getting dressed already. Admittedly it was my fault for not lasting longer but she would have left a better impression by at least lingering for the full 30 minutes. I'm surprised to see that Mark User had the opposite experience.
I had until 8pm when I had to head back to the airport. In that time I was disappointed to see few if any new girls check in for work. I did get a round at the buffet table which is better than other FKKs, but still not what I would call a great meal.
So around 7pm I decided to have another round with the only girl who looked worthy - Vanessa again. Again she tried to upsell me on the CIM, but instead I took the hour for 100e. This time I enjoyed the same great BBBJ and multiple positions for 50 minutes straight. I might be wrong but I thought I felt some pelvic twinges from her which may have signalled her orgasm. She didn't say much and I didn't ask. Eventually I was taking so long that she started asking me if I was able to come this time. I assured her I could and, on the bottom end of a very nice cowgirl, I eventually did. Again she had her skirt on again in 1 minute flat and was ready to leave. Oh well, I guess I was paying for a pretty girl with a great body, not a hospitable attitude.
After I had dressed and was waiting for a cab, I was reflecting on how limited the selection was at palace when in walks a stunning blond with a model's face and body. She smiled at me on her way past knowing she had a future customer. This must have been the fabled Cindy of Palace. Alas, I had a plane to catch. Perhaps this will be a reason to return to Palace... but only for the night shift.
RtW
RTW,
She never rushed me though she did start with the upsell menu. But since she was my second of the visit, I didn't have trouble lasting and extending the time to the full 30 minutes.
Someone once said that they start with a less than beautiful one to make it last longer if it has been a while, and then go with the cuter ones afterwards.
Mark
"walks a stunning blond with a model's face and body."
Very long blonde hair? Tattoo above the ass? Nightshift? This was Marina (you should have delayed you flight), not Cindy. Cindy should be visiting the Colosseum in Augsburg at the moment. She's got large breasts and I would not call her "modell-like".
Hessen Bub
HB,
This is the classic, "What constitutes a model" debate.
I belong to the camp which sees models as Claudia Schiffer, Cindy Crawford, Kate Moss etc. this means tall and thin with classically attractive faces with striking but delicate features.
A good proportion of mongers think of Kelly Price (Jordan) and Pam Anderson Types as Model-Like. That means big hair and big tits. If I am referring to that typer I will say playboy or porno style girls.
It is also a matter of taste. If I talk about porn stars positivelyx I mean girls like Jenna Jameison or Shane or other natural type girls, many others mean Teresa Orlowski or Dolly Buster or other IMHO primitive looking girls.
The Cheap looking big titted girls is a reason why I don't like Happy Garden as much as Wildenrath. PHG has more of these overblown sort of women, whereas Wildenrath has more of the natural sort, although with Nici there is one real silicon Pam anderson Look alike. There are pictutres of her in the gallery of their homepage. www.parksauna-wildenrath.de
peter
H. B.,
Do you happen to know if Cindy will be back by the 12th? Justr curious.
RTW,
The Bub is right on. It sounds like you let Marina slip though your grasp. What a shame for she is a delight.
Cheers.
Dedalus
Peter,
I just checked out the wildenrath website. This is a really cool galery. There is one girl who shows her face in many of the pictures, for example #3 and #16. Do you know who she is?
I know, I know, it's off the topic, but since you mentioned it ...
Thanks
euro
@Peter: Cindy is more the "Kelly Price (Jordan)"-type.
@Dedalus: Sorry, I do not know Cindys schedule but I'll ask the girls at Palace next week, maybe they know.
Hessen Bub
I agree on Marina, what a gorgeous creature. But I have not had the pleasure of a session with her, unfortunately.
I only saw her on my last night in Frankfurt. Someone booked her practically the whole night, most of the time just lying around on the couch in the main room. It felt like kids in a playground, and one kid gets hold of the most desirable toy. The more the other kids hang around coveting it, the less he wants to give it up! Oh well, maybe next time.
Three parts of my most recent visits to Palace:
(excerpts cross posted to General)
the good: I had a session one night with Eleni from Greece. very nice, very sensuous, started talking at the bar, moved to the cinema for warm up, then to a room. All the GFE aspects of cuddling, nibbling, giggling, mutual oral, multiple positions, etc.
the best: Last night, a long intereaction with Natalie. From Belgium, schooled in London so fluent English. Works occasionally to pay the bills for school. Dirty blonde, thin, soft, cuddly, affectionate. Again, met at the bar and talked a long time, then to the couch for a warm up, kissing, petting, chatting, and then to a room for wonderful time. then Shower, and DID IT ALL AGAIN. All in all, probably spent 2 hours with her, and would spend my whole time with her if she is back.
I have heard of guys who have their favorite and don't do FKK buffet style. I could be one of those if Natalie is there!! A real sweetie. And she seemed to get out of a kick that I could actually speak French (not oral, the language, silly!).
the bad: Nora: Here is the pattern: As soon as you start with this type of girl, on the couch or in the Kino, they put their hand on your penis, and then give you a quick lick or short suck. THAT STARTS THE CLOCK as far as they are concerned. I have NEVER had a girl 'count' the warm up time as part of the 30 mins. Maybe I have just been lucky in all my visits to all the clubs, but this was a first *for me*.
After that first lick, we chatted a bit, caressed, she gave me an occasionaly rub or lick more, and then when a room opened up, we went. Once we moved to the room, we kissed for a minute or two, I did oral on her (at her suggestion) for maybe 5 minutes, and then she says, "we only have 1 minute left, do you want to do 1 stunde (hour)?!?!?" WHOA!!! I immediately said, "No, we're done," and got up and started to wrap in my towel. She looked like she had no idea what I meant. She protested that this was just her job, and when she did "suckee suckee in kino" that was starting the 30 minutes, and that for sex I would have to pay 1 hour now. I said, no I wouldn't, "BECAUSE WE'RE DONE." And I got my things, I paid her, and she continued to complain.
As I said, this has never been my personal experience, or the 'rule' applied to any of the sessions, at any of the clubs, although maybe implicitly the girls who wanted to rush may have been doing this. She said, "it's my job, and if I do suckee it is 30 minutes for 50 euros." I replied "my job is to tell my colleagues on the net to stay away from you." So here goes: Nora is a thin bleach blonde (probably) with slightly crooked front teeth/overbite. Speaks wonderful English. She is one of the ones who will go up to guys somewhat aggressively to initiate something; now I know why. STAY AWAY.
Have I just been incredibly lucky for 4 years? What is other guys experience in this area?
'nuf said.
Mark
Going to Frankfurt area clubs, the clock watching is something that I have constantly noticed. They became especially so when they heard my American accented English. I have always noted that it is best to make up some bullshit that you're working in the area or have moved there because you will get better service if they think you will become a regular client. Most of these clubs and the girls make their money off of regular clientele. A lot of guys think the local German women offer mediocre service, the best sex I have had in an FKK happened to be with a Bavarian by the name of Sabrina who worked at Bablyon, her '69' is something that I still remember to this day. Speaking German is a major advantage in getting the best service.
CBGB:
Just to be clear, this was the first explicit instance of not just "clock watching" but "setting the clock early" that I have encountered. Even my "rushed" experiences were all in excess of 30 minutes total if you add the bar + couch + room time.
Eleni was wonderful, and Natalie, well, I'm done looking if I could have her every time.
Mark
Everyone seems to have a different definition of when the clock starts. Most of the Frankfurt girls start the clock the moment she puts Mr. Wiggy in her mouth. Some of the other clubs I have visited, they usually start the clock once your inside the room in private with the lady.
Mark,
Thanks for the report with the warning. I have never encountered that kind of behavior by a provide in any of the German clubs. Did you complain to the lady at the entrance? You do not simply have to pay and shut up in this situation.
euro
It is not uncommon for girls to hit the clock when starting a blow job even outside the room. I have not yet made this experience but some girls do it on a regular basis, no matter if you are speaking German, English or Turkish.
Concerning Marina: She's got some regular guests "booking" her for long time sessions. It's worth every cent.
Hessen Bub
"Concerning Marina: She's got some regular guests "booking" her for long time sessions. It's worth every cent."
I could not agree more! I have had so many wonderful sessions with her. What a women!
Dedalus
Hello Mark,
Interesting report about the clock watchers. Luckily never happened with me in a FKK that they start the time from the moment action begins on the couch. Till now the clock has started only once we hit the room. However thanks for letting us know so we can be cautious.
By the way what is the nationality of Nora? It will help us in keeping away from her.
BR
I would guess that Nora was/is German from the little I spent talking. Normally I spend some time chatting up the girls, but clearly I wasn't able to this time!
Mark
For what it's worth, I remember a rather tall, lanky girl with frizzy blonde hair (bleached?) named Nora from Atlantis. She was definitely German, and in the earlier days, say, a year/year-and-a-half ago, this Nora was quite a popular girl and used to be a good provider. If this is the same girl, she has certainly changed her MO.
BTW: There is another girl named Nora working Palace, or at least there used to be: I had multiple sessions with a dark haired Spanish/Moroccan beauty named Nora. She was not tall and a very slightly stocky build, but gave me GFEish sessions that were a far cry from what you, Mark, describe about the tall blonde Nora. I just mention this so that there is no confusion...
I would not describe this Nora as having frizzly hair at all. It was nice, straight, and soft. No frizz at all. Probably not the same Nora.
And again, just to be clear to all, YMMV, DSFDF. Your mileage may vary, different strokes for different folks. I may be the exception to her rule!
(Technically, I guess I should have said YKMV since this is Europe).
Mark
Nora
Nora is Hungarian but has lived in Germany for several years. She has worked at Atlantis, Oase as well as the Palace. The treatment received by Mark is the rule, not the exception. She is definitely one to avoid.
German reviews of Nora from 2002.
1.Akt: Nora aus Ungarn
Ist nicht viel zuzusagen. Wildes Rubbeln am besten Teil des Mannes, sofort Gummi drüber und ihren Körper hingehalten zum Akt. Sehr ernüchternd, da ich doch übers Atlantis nur gutes gehört hatte. Also Nora bitte meiden !
WF: - 100 % = garantiert nie mehr !
Aber in Noras Fall war es so, dass erstens ihre Französisch-Technik mir überhaupt nicht gefallen hat, was natürlich reine Geschmackssache ist, für sich genommen aber auch niemals ein Grund gewesen wäre, sie auf die Flop-Liste zu setzen.
Was mich vielmehr gestört hat, war ihr Eifer, unbedingt um eine halbe Stunde verlängern zu wollen (was ihr bei dir offensichtlich gelungen ist). Da in unserem Fall aber noch mindestens 10-15 Minuten Zeit gewesen wären, hätte ich es für normal gehalten, dass die anschließende Massage in der halben Stunde mit drin gewesen wäre.
Nora
Die Flop Nora war glaube ich aus Ungarn; die beschriebene Top-Nora ist ein deutsches Gewächs, mit der ich auch schon mehrmals das Vergnügen hatte. Meinen Vorschlag, doch einen anderen Namen zu wählen, um nicht mit der anderen Nora verwechselt zu werden, hat sie jedoch nicht umgesetzt.
About a month after this Nora, who is very bad, left Atlantis, another Nora, who is very good, started working there. Thus the confusion, but Mark User's description is dead on for the Hungarian Nora and I've seen her myself at the Palace. Your mileage may vary but it will be varying between horrendous and awful.
Hello all,
Mongering in groups is always more fun than alone, I'm here in Frankfurt until the 12th of September, any one wants to hook up for a drink followed by some holy quest? PM me.
TM
Wow Nora does have a reputation. She goes in my Crap List.
Mark,
There is no word "Kilometerage", so YMMV is right!
Euro,
Getting back to your old Wildenrath Question, the girl in picture 3 and 16 and about haöf pf the other pictures is Naomi, 23 Russian from Lithuania. Very Popular, although not my favourite. She is there a lot.
Peter
I have been recently in the palace.
Took the line U6 and got down and industrial/neue borse.
Got down and walked the left side of the road, same direction my train was running.
If you are there you wil see the palace on a sort of inner alley on your left. About 200 m from you.
Inside I had a shower, and begun to look around. I chatted with some of them, but no chemistry.
Then I met a german/marrocco girl, I think her name was Nadjia. She said her mum is from marocco and father German. Speaks perfect english. She is blonde and kind of minute, not outstanding from far away, but still a very nice girl.
We went in the room and she gave me a BBBJ and FS in all positions I wanted. Also she is a great kisser and very friendly and easy going.
After dinner and a nap, very late at 3 o clock, I had a russian girl, her name was. Sorry forgot, a tall, thin russian girl, it was a mechanical experience, talking was boring and she didn't look to enjoy what she was doing. An average experience, just a little fun.
Cheers,
Teddy
Long layover on a Sunday in FRA. Anyone have info on Palace daytime providers on a Sunday? Experiences/ recomendations/horror stories? I've never been there during morning shift or during church hours. Tnx for any help.
How far is palace from downtown Frankfurt? And what's the address?
Thanks.
Does anyone at Palace read this board? Do they know about Nora and not do anything about her? Has anyone complained to management about her?
I don't want to go to this place. I don't want to have to worry about having to look up a name and a description and interview girls before I go with them to make sure that they aren't this well known snake who has no business being there now that everyone seems to know about her. I prefer to go somewhere where there are no booby prizes hidden among the girls. I know that there are never any absolute guarantees, but I prefer to go to a club that takes care of its problems once they become known.
Catalyst,
Good luck in your quest to find the perfect club. Everyone that I have been to has a few bad apples in the bunch. Even Atlantis and Babylon during its finest glory days had a few black marks.
I have no doudt that Nora is a blight on the FKK scene. It is not so easy to get rid of these girls because you can bet that there some fkk'ers that do enjoy her. Peter once told me about a provider at a different club that he really enjoys although hardly anyone else does. Truth is YMMV.
Palace is a good club and it has some of the best providers on the FKK scene. You may not see them on a Sunday, but they are there. Right now it is the "home" to Marina, Dilara, Diana, Angelika, Michelle and many others. Marina alone gives this place a 4 star rating.
The best way to deal with Nora is spread the word (thanks to WSG and Roemerforum, this is no problem) and let her suffer the consequences of her bad reputation. She has approached me in the past and there was never really a click there so I just sent her away. I am sure that she will either get the point or get out of the business.
Also why not make a list of some of the recommendations from this and other forums and then ask someone to point them out when you get there. Its an FKK. There is no reason to be shy. Ask the chick behind the bar. Ask one of the more gregarious girls. Ask a fellow customer who looks like he knows the scene. Perhaps maybe even arrange a visit with someone from this forum or another.
If you decide to avoid a club, especially this one, because of one bad provider then you really will be missing out on some good times. Also as I stated earlier, good luck finding the perfect club.
Cheers and happy hunting,
Dedalus
Marina, Dilara, Angelika, Michelle - they all were present yesterday. Also Kathi, Maria, Miriam and others.
Hessen Bub
Catalyst:
I hope that you will give Palace or others a try. I went to Palace this week, and following advice here, took things easy, and was wary of any girl who just made a beeline for me. Sure enough, IT WAS NORA!
She looked schocked when I told her that I was not interested and that I had read about her already on the net, and that what I read is why I was not interested.
I then had 3 sessions over about 3 hours with 3 of the most beautiful women I have ever had the chance to be with.
It was wonderful. There are girls at each place that are wonderful, and some not so wonderful. But overall, it is so much better than anything I have ever found mongering in the eastern states of the US.
Strayer
Dedalus - I know perfectly well that all clubs will have some problems, but when a girl is talked about for weeks or even months on the internet and she is still there I wonder whether anyone is paying attention or cares.
@Catalyst: Reports on the internet are always anonymous. Who nows if it is true or maybe the other side is telling the story differently?
If guests complain about girls at the reception (more than one) they will take action. There are several girls I have never seen again in Palace, and their service was not good.
Hessen Bub
Strayer,
OK, maybe I went a little far in suggesting that I wouldn't go there anymore. It looked like not a bad club the one time I was there and I probably will go back. But it does annoy me to see reports of girls who are making people unhappy, but who keep working there.
Hessen,
There are several people who are saying bad things about her who have many posts on this board, so I tend to believe them.
I tend do believe them as well, but should club owners rely on these statements? If she does a bad job this will be spread on the internet and prevent people from booking her.
Hessen Bub
Heading up to Frankfurt this week and will be trying out a FKK for the first time. After reading the forum, I'm very excited and can hardly wait to try out a FKK club, but got a quick question.
How much should I budget for the Palace (entrance fee, drinks and such)? I like to know before hand, so I don't get shell shock (especially at this horrible exchange rate).
While researching, I read in a FKK forum that a guy got in free because he picked the right ball out of a jar, is that common, and if it is, what is the price range?
Also, I understand the girls insist on using thier own condoms, but I just feel more comfortable using mine. It might be just because I was in Asia for so long, but that is just me. Will the girls be offended and not give good service because they are insulted?
I'll be at the Frankfurt airport on Wed and then in town until Thurs evening, if anyone wants to grab a drink. I plan on arriving mid afternoon and staying until close (do FKK close?). Cheers.
Palace entrance fee: 65 Euros
Drinks: free
Buffet dinner: free
Sessions: 50 for standard service (BBJ and 30 min.) 100 for CIM Prices should not vary but it is always best to ask if you are not sure. Better yet, scan the forum and you can get and idea of the price structure for the Frankfurt Clubs for they are pretty similar.
I don't know about the free entrance deals that they have although there may be something like the "double six" night at Oase. Best thing would be to check the Palace web site.
The "London" condom that nearly all the girls use is just fine. It is a common brand here in Germany and you will be as safe as if you were in your mother's arms. I really would not sweat it. There is a lot of sex in Germany and these people take safe sex, like most things, very serious. The condoms are not made or saranwrap. However, if you really need to use your own, then by all means do so. It just may send a strange signal to your temporary lover and there is always the chance that it will put her off. Maybe, maybe not. The more relaxed she feels with you, the better time you will have.
Best advice: Relax. The FKK experience is best enjoyed when you and the girl(s) feel comfortable. Also look for a blond Lithuanien named Marina (usually present in the evenings) and be nice to her. She will make your trip worthwhile. Don't get hung up on the condom issue.
Have a blast,
Dedalus
Deda,
You forgot to mention that the club closes at 4 in the morning. If I remember correctly Oase and World close at 5am.
Palace has the Pull a ball for free entrance on Tuesdays and Sundays.
Oase's Double six program is on Wednesday if I remember correctly.
Peter
Peter,
you remember nearly perfectly.
All three clubs open at 10 a.m.
Palace closes at 4 a.m
Oase closes at 5 a.m
World closes at 4 a.m Sunday to Wednesday and at 5 a.m Thursday to Saturday.
FKKW closes at 4 am except for Thursday, Friday, Saturday.
Double Six in Oase is on Wednesdays, correct.
Little OT: Did you see the LED-banner above the bar at Oase? It says "... and French total are by us normal". ;-)
Hessen Bub
"... and French total are by us normal".
What the heck does that mean?
It means:
"You're not in Kansas anymore..."
French total means Cum in Mouth. That it is normal, means it is readily available, a lot of girls offer it.
Peter
Gentlemen,
let's not jump to conclusions here. Bruce Ley may not really be from Kansas after all. (Kansas, by the way is a fine state ... except for that evolution thing - but I am digressing).
I think whay Bruce Ley may have wanted to say: the sentence "... are by us normal" makes no sense in English. In German, however, "... ist bei uns normal" is fine. So all of you German speakers have no problem with this, and your brains made the conversion without a problem. But it is still not an English sentence, and someone who does not speak English may not understand.
I tried to explain this to the Oase's owner last time I was there, but he was not convinced. There are also other typos on that electronic banner. But what the heck, the main message is still: you can jerk off your load in the girls mouths, and there is no extra charge.
happy hunting
euro
"you can jerk off your load in the girls mouths, and there is no extra charge."
WHAT? Oh man, I feel really sheepish for saying this, but I had 5 sessions total on my trip last year at Atlantis, and of the 5 I paid the 3 girls that I cummed on an extra 50 Euros for the pop-shot. AAaaagh!
All I did was follow the instructions and opinions of this very forum - I thought cum anywhere on the body was another 50 Euro! Man, do I feel like a lout.
So what's the deal here - cum on body/in mouth has no extra charge? Clear this up for me, guys. Also, if that is true is this the standard policy at all Frankfurt area clubs like Oase, Atlantis, World, Palace?
- Bruce (the Sheepish One)
Euro100
As a native English speaker I find the phrase "French total are by us normal" to be an awkward transliteration also. If I had to guess at what that sign was trying to say in English I would agree with you, "you can jerk off your load in the girls mouths, and there is no extra charge." The only problem is, there IS an extra charge, namely 50 Euros.
I find all these explanations to be alright by me!
Btw: The phrase "You're not in Kansas anymore" was lifted from the classic 1939 film The Wizard of Oz, when Dorothy, marvelling at all the strange wonders she encounters, utters to her dog: "We're not in Kansas anymore, Toto..."
The translation problem could be somewhat eased by grasping that the German preposition "bei" is not exactly like the English "by" even though it sounds the same.
Maybe they are trying to convey in the banner that this extra service is widely or normally available, just in case some guys were too shy to ask.
Ups, didn't mean to cause a big discussion.
It should have read "CIM is readily available", but there is an extra charge. There are some more typos like "Whrilpool" etc., but they will stay there forever and you will find native English speaking men wondering about it. Have fun.
Hessen Bub
P.S.: Common mistake for native German speakers:
"I became a present" instead of "I got a present". This happens because in German the sentence is "Ich bekam ein Geschenk". ;-)
Another amusing one: Germans invariably confuse "by" and "until". A friend of mine was once exhorted by a girl to "please come until the end of the hour". There were 35 minutes to go........ :-)
Nichts für ungut. Their English is usually much better than most foreigners' German.
But let's get back to the Palace. Where were we? Open until 4 a.m.
Just to make it clear to all. I AM A NATIVE ENGLISH SPEAKER! If you don't believe it check out some of my posts on the German Boards. If my German were that poor and I couldn't speak english natively as well, then I would be illeterate in the only two languages I can speak. Holy crap, with that low a level of education I could never afford FKK's.
Peter
"Ur not in Kansas anymore" is from the Matrix, Neo.
NB
Actually, "not in Kansas anymore" is originally based on Wizard of Oz, what Dorothy says to TOTO.
Bruce,
If CIM is not an extra 50 Euros at Oase or any other Frankfurt FKK, then that is news to me. Just because it is "normal" does not mean that it does not cost extra.
Cheers,
Dedalus
Bruse,
To answer your question:
In the Rhein-Main-area, CIM is always 50 € extra.
COB is always a matter of negotiation. Officially, it´s 50 € extra at World. I don´t know the "official" rules at Palace and Oase (It´s said that at Oase you don´t have to pay for that since June/July this year, but I didn´t try that personally). But it´s best to ask the girl before the session. Some of them want extra money, some not. If you ask before, you can step back and look for another girl without wasting money.
Heading to Frankfurt in October, looking to spend an evening at the Palace...
Couple of newbie questions/concerns:
- I have been to Termas in Rio, and they provided robes. I understand it's towels only in FKK. I'm a big dude, and I hear these towels are small. Do they have something to help tie these towels on so I don't keep having it fall off me?
- Any multiple pops at the Palace? My first is usually fast (probably will upgrade to CIM to get it out and then go longer) or is it pay more to go again within the 30 mins?
- Place to stay - I'm actually going to be outside Frankfurt for most of the trip, but will need a place in Frankfurt for a couple nights. Looking to be train accessible to Palace, but close to fun "regular" things to do in town as well (bars, clubs, shops, etc.). Might be nice to be accessible to RLD as well (may check it out).
Thanks fkk folks!
Planning on my first trip to a German FKK soon. I can go on Sun, Mon, Tue. What is a good time for palace when there will be a fair selection of girls and a moderate (but not empty) amount of guys?
Thanks
Garbanzo,
I have not visited Palace yet, but I can share this from my other FKK experiences.
1. You could purchase a robe and wear it, instead of a towel, if you choose to do so. In FKKW, they had both medium and large size towels. So you may want to ask the larger one.
2. You should ask the girl about it. Some girl will leave quickly after one pop, and the other will stay for full 30 min.
3. I used Hotel Premier near the train station. Nice facility, and the price was reasonable. Check www.hotel.de.
>Do they have something to help tie these towels on so I don't keep having it fall off me?
Garbanzo: for a modest $1,200 I volunteer my services to fly over and I will help you tie the towel :)
FYI,
CIM is 50E extra at Both Palace and Oase. I actually got off (no pun intended) with slight discount at Oase when one of the girls basically let me spritz on her lips and face for the low price of 50E total for about 45 minutes of multi position gynmastics with the
facial ending. I think she liked me:-)
No complaints from me !
garbanzo,
I have used this web site to book hotel reservations in Frankfurt:
http://www.frankfurt-tourismus.de/default.htm
As for your question about robes, when I visited FKK35, they offered robes or towels. I am not sure how widespread this practice is at FKKs, but I definitely prefer a robe.
V.
At Palace you can also get a robe. But I have seen big boys there wearing a towel, there are 2 sizes and the bigger ones should fit you as well.
Hessen Bub
Garbanzo,
Have just returned from my first trip to Frankfurt FKKs. I used http://www.hotel.de/homepage_EN.asp to locate hotels as it was previously recommended by some posters.
I stayed at Hotel Am Kurfürstenplatz in Frankfurt (3 star)
Am Kurfürstenplatz 38
60486 Frankfurt.
It is clean, fairly quiet, less thank 2 km from Palace, i think. The rate was 50 € per nite, parking 5€ per nite (note: the exact location of hotel from the map that hotel.de site provides is inaccurate, and there are no clearly visible signs of hotel, just a small plaque near the door).
On the way to Palace, i also saw Ibis Hotel Frankfurt West (4 star), which the hotel.de quotes for about 70€. I think it is about 1 km away, ie within walking distance (if not raining!).
Both hotels are about 4 stops from HBF by S or U Bahn (ie not within walking distance to other attractions in central Frankfurt). However, it is within easy reach to the A5 for Oase and World.
I dont recollect seeing anyone wearing robes, although some use 2 towels, one for upper and one for lower body.
Have fun.
On my last trip to Palace for the near future, I arrived around 4pm Thursday. I had been hoping to reunite with Fernanda from Dusseldorf or Vanessa from Poland, but sadly neither turned up that day.
Around 6pm just before food was served, I had my first session with Jana from Russia. Tall, fake blond, blue eyes, small breasts, slim waist. The great thing about Jana is that she looks even more beautiful close up in the room and laying on the bed. Nice BBBJ, a little DATY, a little doggy, then I was ready to explode since I'd saved up for a week. I asked for CIM and enjoyed jerking into her mouth, and she let it drool into her hand. Afterwards over dinner we had a few laughs, and I realised she was one of the more fun people to talk to that I've met in the FKK scene.
For round two around 9pm, I chose the perky Miriam from Poland, 22. Her face is about a 7, but her body is a perfect 10 if you like the slim spinner type. I decided to add another girl to the party, Isabel or Issy another blond, who had a great body too (non-spinner) with attractive eyes and face and a couple of tatoos on the back. In the room, Miriam was the front runner - taking charge with a great sloppy BBBJ while on all fours. Meanwhile, Issy was standing up on her knees with me, DFK and sucking my nipples. Then they switched places. Issy's BBBJ was good but just didn't compare to Miriam's. Then I laid down, Miriam mounted me RCG while Issy sat on my face. Then Miriam proved she was a spinner, by rotating from RCG to FCG without withdrawing... Nice! Then after having both girls doggy-style, I climaxed while in Issy with Miriam's nipples in my mouth. Afterwards, they both talked about their multiple partner experiences (2 guys at once, 2 couples, etc.)
I just have to kick myself for not having more multiples earlier and more often in my brief FKK career. Actually, my first FKK experience was a threesome at Atlantis with a couple of ripoff sisters from Colombia, which unfortunately turned me off the whole multiples idea for too long.
Finally my last session of the night around midnight was with venerable Marina. On my last visit to Palace, Marina was my third session but as luck would have it, I couldn't climax even though she worked like a trooper to earn a 50e CIM bonus. This time I was determined. I'm not sure if she remembered me and her English seemed to have mysteriously deteriorated since last week. But we had some nice DFK, a lengthy bout of 69 wherein she started fingering my arse (I realized this is not my kind of thing), then some cowgirl (I love CG with a beautiful girl hovering over me), then she literally pulled me over into mish. Finally I rolled her over into doggy and finished the deed successfully. I was quite pleased with the outcome.
I ran into Boofer after this session and had fun talking to another English-speaking monger. I wish it were easier to find or identify other WSGers in the clubs.
After a while, I looked around for Jana or Miriam but never found them. After scanning the alternatives realized I wasn't into a fourth session and packed up around 3:30am. On this night it was pretty quiet and I noticed most girls were packing it in early as well. One girl had fallen asleep near the hot tub, and others were waiting in line to get massages from an older Italian dude on the swinging couch.
One last logistical note, I've noticed that if you take the S-bahn from FRA to Hauptbahnhoff if you buy a ticket from a machine it costs 3.25e but if buy a ticket from the attendant on board it only costs 1.85e. Small time, I know, but interesting. Of course, it's still 10-12e for the taxi from HBF to Palace.
That's all for now. Like I mentioned before, I'll be trading in my FKK chops for the quiet life in Sex Prison with possibly intermittent visits Mexico and Chile. Ahh, the FKK's, please enjoy the great things here while you can guys...
Lastly I'd appreciate if anyone comes across Fernanda from Dusseldorf please let me know when and where.
Cheers
RtW
RTW-
Getting on an S-bahn train at FRA without a ticket will cost a 40 Euro penalty fare if you are caught. There are no attendants on board normally. There are ticket checks on a random basis. I once spent a week in Frankfurt and was never asked to show a ticket once. Another time I was asked for it three times on a single train ride. You never know.
If you ever go back to the Palace, the U6 or U7 stop at Industriehof / Neue Boerse is only a few minutes walk from the Palace. The ticket from the airport to the Palace is the same price as the ticket from the airport to the Hbf.
Fats
I was on the S-bahn from FRA to HBF and wasn't able to buy a ticket from the machine because they won't take a 10e bill or larger.
On the train, the conductor came by and checked everyone's ticket. I said I tried to buy one at the machine but I only had a 10e note. He asked me where I was headed, then told me it would cost 1.85. I gave him the 10e and he gave me change. I guess he believed my story or he was particularly sympathetic.
How do you get to the U6 or U7 stop from HBF?
U6 can be accessed from Hauptwache, two stops on any S-bahn from Frankfurt Hbf.
I visited the Palace a couple of times in September, my first visits to an FKK. I'm hooked. Very relaxing way to spend an afternoon / evening, especially after stepping off a twelve hour plane ride.
My first visit I arrived right when the doors opened. Not many people around, female or male. Lucky, who is Thai, probably mid 30s, decent looking but not stunning showed me around and chatted while I had breakfast from the buffet.
After an hour or so there still only two or three men, and maybe six women. I was not overly impressed with the selection, but ended up going with Lucky because she had been so nice and was talkative. She provided a nice BBBJ on the couch before we moved to a room for more play. Ended up spending an hour with her, which included a very good massage.
Returning to the main room and bar, action was picking up (now about 13:00). I sat and talked to Lucky and a new arrival, Isi (easy), early 20s, blonde, small breasts, very pretty face couple of tatoos on here back and a pierced clit. I layed there for about an hour, almost dozing with Isi running her fingers over my chest while she and Lucky chatted, when Lucky reached under my towel and started bringing me to attention. Isi took over with a very slow, gentle BBBJ which soon had me eagerly agreeing to head to a room with her. Very sweet girl, very much a GFE.
Second visit was later in the afternoon, from about 17:00 'til midnight. I was hoping to find Isi again, but she wasn't around. I was not disappointed, however. What a line-up of gorgeous women! There were at least 20 women there, most of them 7 to 10. Maybe 8 to 10 guys early in the evening, more later, but the ratio was always at least 2 or 3 women for each guy.
Two women that I especially enjoyed were Christina and Traumfrau ('dream woman', which was all the name I got out of here). Christina is Romanian, tall, large breasts, long black hair. Very talkative, bubbly personality, a little bit mechanical in the room, but ended up with a nice BBBJ and CIM.
Traumfrau was my last of the night, and one I will remember fondly for a long time. She was medium height, thin, small breasts, short hair cut dyed a dark red. She had been giving me very 'come on, let's go right NOW' looks all night, but I had steered clear. Partly because she was so direct I was expecting a jaded pro, and partly because she isn't entirely my physical type. Towards the end of the evening she finally came up behind me and just leaned her tits against my back and begin rubbing while we talked a bit.
She started off telling me she was from the Phillipines, but she couldn't speak a word of Spanish and spoke German with a Slavic accent. I finally got out of her that she was from Russia. Coldest Siberia, if what she said is to be believed, but I didn't believe half the things she said. She turned out to be very funny, with a caustic, sarcastic sense of humor that I liked so we went off to a room, where she pretty much unleashed herself on me. Woah!
We had barely shut the door when she was on her knees absolutely inhaling me in a deep throat BBBJ. She devoured it like she couldn't get enough and it was all I could do to hang on to my load. We progressed through just about every position, her always very vocal with a performance that had me convinced she was a sex starved nympho experiencing multiple orgasms. I know it was only a performance, but it was Oscar worthy and she definitly earned her money. I would go back to her in a heart beat.
Rod
Actually, you can take either U6 or U7 form Hauptwach. The S-bahn from the airport stops at Hauptwach. Total trip time is no more than 30 minutes depending on time of day and conections.
Irornod 65
Your traumfrau sound suspiciously like Angelika, a seasoned professional once voted number one girl in Atlantis. She is quite the wild ride and very sarcastic and ascerbic in the humor department. She is indeed from Siberia.
Beffen 1
Does anyone know if a cute girl named Nikki (nicole?) is still working there? I was in there about 3 months ago and met her and had a great time. She is Russian but lives in Cologn. She hangs with another Russian (polish?) girl that is a bit plump, but nice to talk with. Nikki is about 5'5", slim, nice but, small tits, short dark hair. Average face but makes up for it in the sack as well as just a pleasure to talk with.
Thanks for the help everyone!
Jaas
Irornod65,
I'm 99% sure your Traumfrau was Angelika, a highly decorated ex Atlantis talent. One of the best there is.
Chivaz
Hi fellows,
Last week I had two visits to Palace (my first time in a German FKK-club) and I loved it!! The relaxed atmosphere of being able to hang around, chat with the girls and have drinks without too much pressure was just great, sitting around and watching all those pretty girls before and in between my sessions was almost as enjoyable as the sessions themselves …. well not quite, but almost - you know what I mean! :-)
When I just had arrived and wandered around I was greeted by a brown girl from the Dominican Republic named Maria, who offered to show me around. At first I hesitated because she was a bit too petite and slender for what I usually like, but she had a great grin and when she put her tongue deep inside my mouth she convinced me rather quickly. When I asked her what she had on her menu she said “everything” and she really meant it. I did not go for the a-level option because she asked 100,- more for it (instead of the 50,- I had expected), but otherwise we had great sweaty sex with BBBJ, FS in several positions and great DFK. I loved it and it really felt like she was not holding back with anything - nothing of the “don’t touch me here” or “stop doing that” shit that you sometimes get!
Then I saw this incredibly attractive girl with short black hair, sweet face and incredible tits, but she was with another guy and they just went to a room. After hanging around for a while, recovering and having a go at the buffet I had a session with Christina from Romania. Nice girl with Ds, ok DFK and BBBJ a little mechanical during FS in cowgirl and mish, but still a nice experience.
When I came out of the shower I saw the beauty again - and again with another guy at the bar. I waited around a bit becoming tired, and before leaving I asked her for her name (“Jeromine”, wrongly referred to as Jermaine earlier in this forum) and if she’d be around the next days (“Yes!”).
Came back next evening, didn’t see her around. After a while two very young girls approached me, offering double pack action. Sydney, a slender blonde with short hair was not too interesting, but her friend Cilene (?) was nice and tan with big sexy tits and a perky look, so I thought I’d give them a try after some chat. We had to wait for a room and while on the sofa it turned out that the 2x50,- for half an hour would not include the lesbian action they had announced (this would be 2x100,-) and that kissing was not included in their basic rate. I said I couldn’t afford the lesbian extra and would only do the session if kissing was included, and they said yes after some discussion. They just refused to start with it on the couch saying this would harm their reputation with the other girls (?).
In the room it was a mixed experience - it was great to have one of them suck my balls and the other my cock, but all the time it seemed that they were feeling a bit awkward like two girls just playing to be pros. I was more interested in Cilene, so most of my action was with her while kissing Sydney. Unfortunately she had a bit of the “don’t do this, don’t do that” attitude, which turned me off. Overall ok (my first time with 2 girls), but won’t repeat.
After dinner I saw HER again: Jeromine! She was sitting with another girl and two guys, having dinner herself, so I just sat across from her and enjoyed to watch her eat. When she had finished I asked if I could join her and we sat on the couch talking for a while. On top of this incredible body she’s got this highly expressive and pretty face (not just another Barbie) and this look that almost killed me! We spent quite some time on the couch together very slowly feeling and enjoying each other. She was so incredibly laid back and didn’t push to go to a room at all! When we finally went I started off with giving her a nice long massage and I loved it. The sex with her was great (I hardly noticed that she had put a condom on before the BJ) and unhurried - a real GFE!
Being spent from all the previous action and a long, hard day I was nice and hard, but couldn’t come, although she did all she could to get me off. After CBJ and FS in various positions we cuddled together for the rest of the time and talked. Altogether I probably spent 2 hours with her enjoying every second. WOW what a woman! If I had been able to get together with her again the next day I probably would have proposed, although I am pretty well aware that it is not a good idea to mix romance with P4P.
Thanks again to all you previous Palace visitors for all the information and for encouraging me to go! Have to try to talk my company into making more business in the Frankfurt area :-)
Stiff6
Stiff6
That Maria from DomRep sounds like the one who used to be at Atlantis. Did she mention that? Or any plans to go back? She's a really experienced pro, no doubt about that.
Toscana
Yes, I think she mentioned Atlantis - saying that the facilities were nicer at Palace, but the atmosphere had been better at Atlantis.
I am getting sick of this Atlantis idolatry. The reviews coming in on virtually every board are unanimously mediocre at best. Not many girls, no money invested in improving the facilities. Any girl going back would be nuts.
Peter (Who hopes Atlantis will close again soon to let the other clubs prosper and grow - It is like pruning a tree)
Hi fellows,
I visited Palace in Frankfurt for the first time yesterday. Some kind of special party took place called "Black Night". So all the girls wear black cloths. A few girls were booked especially for some dancing performance.
Had two meeting with two different girls: First was called Carla from Cuba. Dark skin with a nice outer appearance in general. Service unfortunately was just so so. In total I would rate her a 6. But I wouldn´t take her again because of the service quality.
Second girl I went to a room with was a blonde Russian girl called Elena. A little bit tall with wonderful eyes like a cat. Nice service with a wonderful performance. I rate her a 8 in total. Next time coming to Palace I would take her again even she usually works only on day shift.
Peter,
well, I think we all agree with you that Atlantis has got to prove itself again. But there's surely no harm in tracking down individual girls we once met in A. It's been happening all over the place in the forums, not only WSG. Thanks to Stiff6 I (and maybe a few others) now have another valuable confirmation, i.e. that it is her, and that she is likely to stay put at Palace. I should say a return visit is more on the cards now ;-)
Tosc
Peter,
If you check my posts, I have never been too enthusiastic about Atlantis. There was always too little light in the main room, and the locker room was really sub-par, even worse than Oase's. The food was hit-and-miss, and the rooms had no doors, only curtains.
But!!! At the height of Atlantis' best period there sure was a great selection of great-looking girls there. And that is really what everybody remembers.
Obviously they lost their base of great providers when they were closed down. The really great ones went on to become stars at other clubs. Now the club needs to reestablish itself again and start out just like any new club. We all know that this is a delicate balance. Better girls mean more men mean better girls mean ... But they have to start slow, in particular since many top providers are of course hedging their bets on going back due to the unresolved law suit issue.
So let's be little patient with them.
euro
Atlantis (if court does not close it down next week) will take some weeks and then it will be the old Atlantis again, I am pretty confident.
Yesterday there were about 30 to 40 girls, many of the old working force. And lots of girls are just a little unsure but waiting unpatiently to go back and make money. That's why they liked Atlantis. And greed will bring them back.
Hessen Bub
Don't you guys think that this Atlantis discussion is a little off topic here in the Palace forum? :-)
Stiff6
HB,
It might be interesting in the next few weeks to make some kind of list that track the shift within the "Big Four" (FKKW, Palace, Oase, Atl.). I would bet that the biggest changes will be with Palace and Oase.
I hope to make a research tour up there next week.
Cheers,
Dedalus
Only my second visit to the Palace. The first time was on an off night, so I’ve never really seen it at its best. Tonight it was at it’s best. When I first walked in things didn’t look so good. I didn’t see many good looking girls and there were far more men than girls (and one of the girls told me that it is usually more crowded than it was that night). But after an hour or so some nice ones started showing up (either arriving or finishing up in the room) and there was no question that the selection was as good as in any top club.
During the night I took 3 Germans. I’ve heard people complain about the attitude of Germans, and all I can say is if the German girls don’t have the best attitude I can’t wait to try the non-Germans in this club because the Germans were great. I took Nicky and Allysia separately to the kino and I did Tamara right on the big wall sofa by the bar. If you are in Frankfurt and don’t want to rent a car this is the place to visit.
I got more unwanted advances here than at other top clubs, particularly if I went into the kino by myself, but this wasn’t a big deal. At times the kino turned into a tacky lounge area for overweight Spanish speaking chicks. I read some complaints about the bathroom not being clean or not smelling good, but that wasn’t the case when I was there.
Monday night at Palace, usually one of the worst nights to visit, was in fact surprisingly acceptable this time around. Most of the action is around and after midnight. Many people seem to synchronize their visits with the arrival of the 10pm buffet which is really quite appetizing. Geronima (German brunette short hair D-sized) was my first choice of the night and resulted in an ok experience. Much better were some of the flirty Russian girls who do noy shy away from kino action and know how to use their tongues to perfection. The athmosphere was quite nice though with lots of girls "hiding" in the many Palace alcoves. Will try again on "busier" nights.
I went twice during this week both times on weekdays. I have been to this place twice before. I was there on a saturday in September and it was packed but even so the problem is the most popular girls are always booked up. This time there was not that problem. A lot of the same girls were there still. The first night I have a Brazilian woman calling herself marcella who was perhaps the single best sexual experience I have ever had. Anal for an extra 100 CIM extra 50 and so on all standard prices, but she really knew how to talk to me and gave a real GFE. Sex was amazing really took her time and wanted to cum badly (at least she told me). Of course it was probably an act but wow what a preformance, my favourite is when she told me she is a nymphomanic, with this woman it could be true. She told me she normally works in Munich and was just visiting.
next after a long rest was Daniella, a romanian that often works with Christina and to me looks like Anna Kournakovala, same body anyway, about as close to a 10 as there can be bodywise. I didn&t take her before because I thought she would not be good in service, but I was happily wrong, compared to my previous session it was not as good but still veynice very slow and very complient to do anything I wanted. Did ask 200 for anal but came down to the standard quickly so is another star in my book now as well and she is a regular there. The first night Alice was there as well she is a dominica that looks like a black barbie doll, just stunning. I had her a month ago and the service was terrible and she is not willing to do anal (the only one there I asked that was not). She seemed much mopre friendly thins time but I passed as my my previous experience. For the finale I took the long haired thin Bugarian women whose name is something like anissia? anyway about her, the best blow job I have had in my life, all in all quite a night.
I went back later in the week and meet the sweetest like dominicana calling herself Chystal and was most happy but she wanted 200 for anal and didn't comprimise about it any she was worth it even more believable GFE then the Brazilian. So good I took her twice and stayed with her to the end. Never felt much for a working lady that stays with me but now I have, such is life.
That is all for now and YES I will be back.
Katana:
"Daniella, a romanian that often works with Christina and to me looks like Anna Kournakovala, same body anyway, about as close to a 10 as there can be bodywise"
I can only agree with you. To me she also looks a lot like Anna K. I was also hesitant at first, because in my experience this type of girl can be cold. But I was also extremely positively surprised. Daniella used to work at Atlantis, and I had one of the best sessions in my life there with her.
euro
[QUOTE=Katana]I went back later in the week and meet the sweetest like dominicana calling herself Chystal ... Never felt much for a working lady that stays with me but now I have, such is life.[QUOTE]
It was her first week in the business, maybe that was why you had such a good session with her. Some girl told me that she would have been 100% my type , but she had a bad experience with a guest (asshole he must have been) and it is not sure when (or if) she will return.
Hessen Bub
Hi guys,
I'll be in the Frankfurt area on 24th and 25th of November and will be visiting Palace and/or World. Will anybody else be there on one of those days for a chat or is the big party only coming on the weekend after?
stiff6
I was staying at the Marriot and was at a loose end so decided to visit on a Monday night. Its about 5 mins from the Marriot and costs €8 in a taxi.
Its €65 to get in, the receptionist explained the procedure and tied a green band around my wrist (don't know what this is so...maybe if you go out and come back again ??) and gave a key to a locker after asking for our shoe sizes (note, they only know european shoe sizes, so was confused when I said size 10). Undressed and had a quick shower and wrapped the towel that was given and took a wander around the place. There were not that many guys around and a few girls sitting on the sofas and lounging around. Nothing really stood out, so just sat on the "swinging" sofa and watched how the girls were behaving. A russian girl cam and sat with me and my friend and explained the details (we knew the prices from the forum already). My friend liked her, so he took her to a room. I also needed to get the first one of the night out, so I smiled and beckoned Michelle as she passed me.
She came and sat on my lap and immediately starting DFKing me, she tasted very sweet and certainly got thing stirring down below. We went off to a room, with lots of more kissing and then she started giving me a BBBJ with plenty of attention to my balls. She then got on top, followed by doggy and then missionary with more DFK and the inevitable then happened. She cleaned me up and then we had a nice chat for a few mins and went back into the main area. Definetly reccommended
Sat around for about 1hr, just watching the girls and the dancers. Had a few girls come up, but nothing that really rocked our boats. As we were watching the dancers on the bike, one girl in white boots took my attention, she was dancing and smiling and always bending over showing her butt. I called her over and we starting chatting. Her name was Maria and she was from Sicily, her toungue is pierced and she has a bit of a lisp. She climbed on top and starting kissing. She had just had a cigarette so did not taste the same as Michelle and certainly did not kiss as deep. We then went to the room, where she gave a really deep BBBJ, on with the rubber and then we fucked cowgirl and then doggy. Her arsehole was inviting, but at another €100 a bit too much. She was also dry and I had no intention of DATY, so used a bit of spittle to get it wet. Filled the rubber and collapsed for a while.
On the way out saw a gorgeus black haired girl, so thought I would do her a bit later. My friend however, was not feeling well, so we decided to head back. I saw the black haired girl and she smiled...damn hope she is there next time !!
This place is fantastic, my only gripe is the entrance fee, which is very high, however the quality of some of the girls is outstanding !
Gentlemen,
I have spent most of my mongering in Latin America and for the first time I plan to venture in Frankfurt. I would certainly appreciate the company of a fellow mongerer so if anyone is interested, I will be in Frankfurt on Nov 12 to 14 at a hotel near the main train station HBF. Perhaps I can return the favor somewhere in S.A.
Cantor
Gentlemen,
I have spent most of my mongering in Latin America and for the first time I plan to venture in Frankfurt. I would certainly appreciate the company of a fellow mongerer so if anyone is interested, I will be in Frankfurt on Nov 12 to 14 at a hotel near the main train station HBF. Perhaps I can return the favor somewhere in S.A.
Cantor
Fellow Mongers,
First of all, I would like to thank everyone who has posted the very helpful information to this forum. After reading through this forum and the Frankfurt forum I decided to give the Palace a shot rather than crawl through the RLD. It was a great decision! Here's my experience.
I had a Friday night stay-over in Frankfurt on my way home. Took the train from the airport to my hotel in Frankfurt to dump off my stuff, then went back on the subway to Hauptwache station and changed to the U7 (U8 works also). Got off at Industriehof. Total cost from airport was 3.25 Euro.
Cross the street and follow the direction that the train goes. About 200 m ahead turn left. This is the first major street on the left and has a sign that says 'Palace'. It has a lot of other signs as well. Walk about 50 m and turn right on a small street, and the Palace is in an alley on the left.
Once inside I was told the prices (65 entry, 50 for each "encounter"). After paying entry fee I was given a key for the locker that contained the correct size rubber slippers and two towels (one regular size and one large). The key also works in a small safe just outside the looker room where you can put your money. A fine example of German efficiency.
After showering I went up to the bar in the main room to get some water and survey the landscape. Sat next to a nice blonde and started talking to her as I was enjoying all of the naked lovelies parading around the place. Honestly, you couldn't wipe the smile off my face! Found out her name is Jackie, and she only works on weekends because she lives in Dusseldorf. The whole time I was talking to her I was reminding myself not to go with the first one, since this is what was recommended in many posts. But after a little while a couldn't resist, as her entire body was just awesome and I do like blondes.
Although she really wasn't all that personable to talk to, she was excellent in the room!! A true GFE including DFK followed by 69 w/BBBJ, then multiple positions. The only kind of strange thing is that I noticed that her tits seemed to be inflated to about 20 psi. They were very nicely shaped, but hard! Definitely recommended if you go on a weekend. I watched her throughout the night and she must have scored once per hour.
Went back to the bar to recover, then walked down toward the buffet and ran into Marcia from Russia. Cute little brunette with small perky (and real) tits. I liked her because she said "I want sex right now!" So we went into the Kino room and she quickly started a BBBJ. Remembering that this can start the clock, I moved things into a room. This girl is wild and passionate, delivering yet another GFE. We were like animals.
By this time I figured that's all I had left in me, plus my cash supply was running low. So I decided to sit around for a while enjoying the view (again, the smile could not be wiped off my face). After turning down several advances and watching a few strip teases on the motorcycle, Jasmine from Venezuela started hitting on me. This is a big girl, but not fat. Has D-cups and is really fun. Told her I was low on cash and she would have to take some US currency if we did anything. No problem, so off we went.
Venezuelans and Brazilians are my favorites, and Jasmine did not disappoint! Yet another excellent GFE, but there was no way I was going to go the distance this time with the raincoat on. This girl worked like none I've ever experienced. She even told me to warn her at the appropriate time because CIM is 50 extra. And her tits were just wonderful and real. Afterwards I gave her 35 Euro and $20, saving 20 Euro for the cab ride home and train the next day.
Now I just wanted to sit around and again enjoy the view for a while. Soon Vanessa from Poland plops down right next to me. Very pretty, brunette, with incredible perky tits. But I just didn't have the energy or (more importantly) the cash for her. She is definitely a shark, as she bolted just as soon as I told her I couldn't go anymore.
I took a taxi back to my hotel, as I didn't want to chance the late-night train schedule. There is always a taxi outside waiting for exhausted customers, so I took the easy ride back. Good thing I saved my last 20.
This was a great experience! If you have the time while in Frankfurt you should treat yourself to an FKK. I was daydreaming on the plane ride home and came up with this analogy: RLDs are like a center seat in coach, private apartments are like an aisle seat in coach, and FKKs are like business class.
Be good, and treat yourself to business class once in a while!
Periander
Gentlemen,
I have spent most of my mongering in Latin America and for the first time I plan to venture in Frankfurt. I would certainly appreciate the company of a fellow mongerer so if anyone is interested, I will be in Frankfurt on Nov 12 to 14 at a hotel near the main train station HBF. Perhaps I can return the favor somewhere in S.A.
Cantor
Arrived at Palace around 16:00. Dissapointed with the selection especially since Oase had such a great selection yesterday. Suprised by the number of men at the club (parking was full), and the lack of talent. It got better later in the day, but in no way came close to the selection at Oase.
I still think Palace has the nicest facilities. Rooms are very good, the massage is the best of all the FKK's, the girl who does the regular massage is quite pretty and good, and I dare you guys to try the Turkish massage which is absolutely great (although performed by a guy).
The sessions done by me and a collegue were:
Alice - Domin.Rep. Dark perfect skin, very beautiful face. She is affectionate, very talkative, likes to show of with dance moves. She is very risk aware (she does not allow CIM) which some punters treat as a plus. My collegue did her later in the day and we both give her a good grade, although I would probably not repeat, at least not soon.
Linda - Czheck. I must admit that I only did Linde because of her huge melons (good for the jerk-off memory ;-). She is rather tall, brown hair, full body (borderline fat) with a girl next door face. The session was nice, and I loved hammering between her tits while she sucked the top of my dick. The regular sex was nothing to write home about.
Jasmine - Venezuela. My Collegue went with her to a room because of her personality, not here looks (she is rather big, has large rather floppy breasts and is a bit over the hill). Very cuddly and nice GFE.
I was hoping to have a session with Marina or Angelika, but they were not present.
We left around 20:30 to have dinner and drinks. We asked if we could return later and got a note with a stamp on. Returned to Palace at 02:30 for a nightcap. No problem getting in again without paying, just hand in the note. Had a couple of sessions, but don't remember names as I was a bit tired (we can also call it a bit drunk). One girl had a rather dark skin and almost a bit of oriental look, straight shoulder length hair. Nice session. The other one I only remember that she is from Russia.
Chivaz
I'm going to be in Frankfurt next week and was wondering if anyone had any recent experiences at Palace. I went there a few months ago and loved it, but I have read a few comments about Palace that makes me wonder if it is still alive and kicking. I'm surprised it doesn't have a more supportive following. I thought the place was great.
Thanks,
Jaas
Hi fellows mongerers!
I've been to the Palace in Frankfurt last week and I loved it.
There was a nice selection of ladies, for different tastes, there was something for everybody.
Slim and tall, fat and small, black and white - great selection.
I've chosen a nice blond slim and tall romanian girl. I don't remember her name, but it was 100% GFE wit BBBJ and her tongue deep in my throat.
The second was a dominican girl which gave me also a great GFE. BBBJ and CIM, DATY and deep french kisses. The whole programm, that i like so much.
From my side, i can only recommend the Palace, hopefully i can go there again next year.
Greetings and have fun!
Jimmyk
Had a nice time last night at Palace. After what was a bit of a dip in quality last month the place seems to have picked up a bit.
I spotted Marina right after changing and siezed the moment. As I have stated before she is one of a kind.
Later I met a girl from Romania for the first time. She is a tall blond named Daniella and I had a pretty good seesion with her. Certainly worth a repeat at some point.
Kathrin (blond, Russian) made the list as my third course on the menue. She always in a gentle way pushes the hour session, but despite this she still give me great service every time out.
Cheers,
Dedalus
First FKK experience this past Thursday and Friday at the Palace - it was absolutely incredible. I still don't know whether it really happened or was some sort of dream...
I really want to thank this group for all the fantastic information. I travel quite a lot and have lurked in the forums for a while, but had never felt sufficiently comfortable to actually dive in until this trip through Frankfurt.
This FKK thing is truly remarkable. Everything I learned in this group was right on - I spent 18 hours over the two days in ecstatic bliss. Not yet over my jet lag, I am already scheming about how to get back there.
A few general comments-
Just sitting around in that plush environment with all those naked women walking and lounging around is a highly pleasurable experience. Even without 1-1 interaction, it is well worthwhile.
Overall, I felt the women were of rather high quality. As an aside, I found that I had some great conversations with some that I was not physically attracted to. One example is Victoria from Ukraine, tall with red hair and big breasts. She is very intelligent, well informed, good sense of humor. I probably spend close to an hour talking with her over the two days. I also had some good conversations with some of the guys at the bar.
Anyway, during the afternoons the supply of my particular drug (not too tall, no tats, thin, small breasts) was somewhat limited, but certainly available, and beginning at about dinner time became abundant.
I had good experiences and would recommend Natasha (long blond hair, 25, from Ukraine), Nadia (Morocco), and Charlotte (23, from Siberia.) I also experienced, but would not recommend, Julie (from Dusseldorf, tat on lower back) because of her obviously pneumatic mammaries. They are not huge, so I didn't notice until it was too late, but if like me you are completely turned off by silicone, she is not the woman for you.
Friday evening I fell in love - Jennifer (22, brown hair, from Dusseldorf, used to work at Atlantis.) This girl is an angel - a 10 from head to toe in my book. I spent two of the better hours of my life with this woman, and will dream about her for quite some time.
Questions -
I noticed that they all shave their pubes. Is this true everywhere? It makes them look 5 years old and is a bit of a turn off to me.
Right now, I feel no need to go anywhere other than the Palace. Is this a mistake?
Dick Nagai,
Welcome to the club of the fkk-addicted and thanks for your nice report.
To answer your questions:
1. Yes, all girls shave. Most of them are shaved completely, some of them partially. I believe this is a good because of hygienic reasons. And I don´t like DATY on a non-shaved woman. But the last is a matter of taste. BTW, most girls prefer shaved customers for the same reasons.
2. Yes, it is a fault! Palace is a very nice club, but World, Oase, Beach,... are nice clubs too, delivering a different atmosphere. The variety is available, why not make use of it? Go there with friends, meet other forum-members and you will have lots of fun in every club.
[QUOTE=Dick Nagai] Right now, I feel no need to go anywhere other than the Palace. Is this a mistake?[/QUOTE]
I don't know yet if this is a mistake...
I 'll more properly answer at this question next wednesday night when I'll have spent all day at Palace...
right now I've just visited Atlantis, Oase, World and Parksauna and have liked all for different reasons
I hope to not be disappointed by this place !!
[QUOTE=GabrielPontello]I don't know yet if this is a mistake...
I 'll more properly answer at this question next wednesday night when I'll have spent all day at Palace...
right now I've just visited Atlantis, Oase, World and Parksauna and have liked all for different reasons
I hope to not be disappointed by this place !![/QUOTE]
Hi!,
I am new to the Europe forum. I have been posting in the UAE,Dubai forum. I have read the excellents posts about these FKK Clubs. I was reading the FKK Oase section and someone mentioned that some of these Clubs are not welcoming/or discriminating against Asians/Non Whites. Is this true?. You experienced FKK punters out there, pls respond. I am planning to go to FKK Palace and probably Oase and do not want my experience to be not worthwhile. Pls some fast info guys.
In addition to that, I have mongered in brothels in Spain, where girls are clean and regularly checked by the shrink for STD'S. Any inputs/ideas is these girls are clean or get checked for STD's. Awaiting reply guys.
Girls For Fun
I am plannig to stay 2 days in frankfurt in an hotel close to the main airport and I would like to known:
1) How reach the palace from the airport by train+metro.
2) If it is better go on saturday or on sunday.
3) There are special party on these days.
I will post a review when I will come back.
Thanks a lot,
PP
Hi guys,
my hotel in FFM had this great late-checkout policy, so I slept in on Friday, had a leasurely breakfast, and then got ready with some hours left before my flight.
So of course I used the occasion to revisit Palace. When I arrived there business was slow, maybe 7-10 girls and 5 customers. I hung around a while, enjoying the Palace atmosphere and the sauna and waited for a girl to come in to get me really going. After a while I decided that I might have some fun, even if none of the ladies was my particular type. I met Natacha (Ukraine) in the cinema and had a great BBBJ/CIM session with her. Her looks are not that great (too thin for my taste), but her BBBJ technique is excellent!
Then I had a little snack - salad and bread with ham and cheese. Great food - and I am picky! After I had eaten, Linda, (Czech brunette with huge melons) became available and I made sure to catch her attention before someone else did. We had some great couch action and then another nice CIM session, and all the time I really enjoyed the look and feel of her huge, soft boobs.
So it was a quiet but satisfying ending of a pleasant stay, and I think I'll have to make up another good excuse to fly to FFM again soon. (You guys talking about addiction are actually not so far off.)
stiff6
Your first question has been answered already in this section. Just read it... ;)
Most probably Saturday will see more (male and female) guests than Sunday. The answer on your second question depends on what you prefer.
For answering your third question it would be very helpful to know the exact date of your visit.
what a nice surprise!
The Palace can be correctly put in my personal "gotha" of the top level FKK for many reasons
the facilities are simply great, new, clean and luxury
the place is just 10euros away by taxi from the main station and the attendance is friendly and helpful
as for the girls, the place was crowded by 30/35 young beauties from all the world
there are not stars like those I saw at Atlantis in the past, but the average is very high and I've seen just few ones not interesting at all
I've been exploring the south america community until midnight then I turned to the former USSR, well represented by a lot of tall and thin blondes
Alice from the Dominicana Republic has been the top level as for beauty
she is a coloured 22yrs. old statue very difficult to score (I saw her free only few minutes in the 13 hour I spent there...)
Cristina from Colombia is the door beside kind of girl (I spent about 5 hours with her, inside and outside the bedroom), a very nice person
I can't remember the name of the other girls tested but I can assure that the technique has been excellent everytime
last positive surprise has been the food, truly tasty and fresh at every hour
I think this FKK will be one of the most popular in a short time
I must say, I agree with GabrielPontello's assessment.
Visited Oase on Monday (to avoid the Nikolaus parties at World and Palace) and Palace on Tuesday (to avoid dessous day at World).
As often reported on the Oase forum recently, there were an impressive number of women at Oase, even for a "slow" Monday evening. Indeed there were more than at Palace on Tuesday.
But I, like GP, was bowled over by the higher quality at Palace the next evening. Even recognizing that beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Between 22.00 and 24.00 I just sat to one side and enjoyed the never-ending parade of must-do women. Must have been at least 30 what I would regard as specials, even if I maybe counted one or two twice, such was the profusion :). I actually caught myself musing, nah, can't do that one, almost perfect, but maybe buttock-crease to back of knee could be about 1/2 a cm longer. I mean, what is there for a lucky punter to complain about when paradise is that close? :)
It seems the other guys agreed. there was an incredible run on the rooms suddenly, and there was almost a secondary market opening up in room keys.
One new girl really stood out for me. Unfortunately I do not know her name or where she comes from. On the two occasions she was available and I could have approached her without being knocked aside in the rush, I had just come out of the room and was definitely unavailable myself. As she passed me on her tour round the place by a member of staff early on, I gawped and asked her if her nipples (never seen better) were available for escort. Got a beam, so she understands German, maybe she is German, don't know. I would otherwise have tipped Baltic. Anyway: tall (at least 1m75), confident but with a little fresh-eyed innocence, ready smile, blonde shoulder-length straight hair which she constantly puts into and out of a ponytail, superb medium to large, assisted breasts, long, long but not thin legs. Charisma pure. Anyone know who I mean? Would interest me to know. New to Palace she was, but not to the FKK system. She interviewed her candidates for no more than 3 minutes, set off for a room with them humbly in tow, and was finishing them off at the rate of about 3 an hour, I swear, so it seems she is efficient as well as popular. Her boldness was quite mesmerizing, even for an inveterate sceptic such as Tosc. Admittedly all pro her side, but 50 EUR of my money to indulge a fascination will be on the table next time for sure. OK, enough infatuation for one day.
Things change constantly, but for me at the moment, it's Palace.
amazing point of view and description, Toscana
I noticed that girl for the ponytail sometimes she makes with her hair
she was in the Russian group just under the motorbike but didn't schocked me very much
I have indulged more in the latin american sector, as I told
I might just say that one of her closer collegue has an excellent oral technique though a deep lack of enthusiasm
Perhaps it was this one?
name: Diana
hair: blonde, long
size: ~ 1,80 m
figure: slender, siliconized B/C-breast
origin: lithuanian
born: ~ 1980
tattoos/piercings: none
service: full pro. great bbbj-experience
other:
location: ATL until 03/04, FKK-Palace since 03/04 (short intermission at FKK-Relax)
Also called "Barbie" by some mongers. Very goal-oriented since her ATL-days. But she can also deliver a great GFE, if she knows you a little better...
Gentlemen,
Excellent news that Palace is on the upswing. I love their physical facilities and the food, just that on my two visits there so far, the lineup has been a little short on young looking Eastern Euro cuties I favor.
In my recent July, September, October and November trips, I had spent most of my time At FKK World and four trips to Oase, the last three during their current heyday period in November.
My first ever FKK experience was at Palace back in 2003 and I was impressed with the place. I did my first anal with the Lithuanian goddess Diana and met a hottie from Spain. I have thus far only returned once, in September, and had two rocking sessions, one with Angelika of Russia the superstar and another with a lovely mocha lady from the Seychelles. But the young hotties from E Europe were few compared to Oase and World. Now your intel says this is changing. I'm there.
I look forward to a return visit or two Christmas week. Anyone know of their schedule- is it like World and Oase: closed Dec 24 and open late (6PM) Dec 25 and 26? I'm looking for an FKK open on Dec 24.
beffen 1
thanks gp and novize.
well, diana sounds nice, and similar in description, except the one i saw i would put in the fuller c range and not so very slender. furthermore she was definitely new to palace. not only was she shown around the premises, but she also had difficulty working out the key system at first. doubt it somehow.
and she was working the place alone, gp, and did not join the brood beneath the bike while i was there at any rate. she generally made a bee-line for the light blue sofa beside the stairs near the bike (prime position, that), played with her hair for two minutes before draping herself over the next plucky punter. she's definitely clever.
any other ideas? definitely worth going back there to investigate anyway. :)
that position has been frequently holded by a girl same kind you described but she didn't inspired me due to a too serious expression on her face
anyway to leave any doubt home we have to take a look again, I agree !
[QUOTE=Toscana]Any other ideas?[/QUOTE]No. I think I´ll have to do the investigations. I will report then... ;)
Went to Paradise on Monday. I got there at around 1600 or so, and it wasn't crowded at all, as I suspected.
By the time I got ready for my first jaunt, I'd been there roughly an hour or so, and had seen about 25 girls walking around. I've noticed that at Paradise, the girls have no qualms at all about walking around totally nude. Not that I'm complaining. Far from it actually. I was about to pick a tall girl with long blonde hair and fake D cup breasts, when I noticed that Dianna was there. On the shorter side, she had fake B cups, long blonde hair and one of the best faces I've ever seen. God bless women who are too good looking to work in an FKK club, but thankfully, do it anyway.
Dianna, from Lithuania, was everything you guys said, with the best BBBJ technique I've ever had at an FKK. Once our session was over I seriously could have left then and been happy.
I won't go into the specifics of the layout of the club except to say that the big whirlpool thing is heaven.
For my second round, I chose a tall girl with long black hair, natural D cup breasts who said her name was Kristianna, from Romania. She was another outstanding choice, in fact offered not only BBBJ, but also CIM, on her boobs, and even anal.
Palace is definitely a great place. I'd recommend it to anyone. By the time I left at around 8:30, there were at least 30 girls there, and less than 25 guys. Good odds, fellas.
The tall blonde with siliconized D-Cups could have been Cindy, who is said to be back at Palace. That would have been a great choice, too!
"The tall blonde with siliconized D-Cups could have been Cindy, who is said to be back at Palace. That would have been a great choice, too!"
Yeah, I read that bit of info on the Roemerforum. This would be great news. Although I think Cindy is one of the best out there, since she moved to Augsburg I have not had enough reason to drag myself all the way out there, even for her.
I hope that she will be there in January. At the moment I am in the land of the free and the home of the brave and the absence of FKKs. (Sob).
Cheers,
Dedalus
P.S. Novize, does anyone know if this is a long-term move for Cindy or is it only temporary?
Only Cindy herself will know that.
But I believe (and hope!) that she will stay in the Rhein-Main-area for a longer time. She always felt comfortable here. Unfortunately, I won´t have the time to ask her before Christmas :( , but I´ll try to find out in early January.
"Unfortunately, I won´t have the time to ask her before Christmas"
My condolences. It must be difficult for you. Whatever shall we do till January? I will hit Palace on the 10th or 11th and ask Cindy what her plans are personally. ;)
Dedalus
[QUOTE=Dedalus]My condolences.Dedalus[/QUOTE]Thank you. I´ll wear a black towel at Beacht tomorrow and at World next Wednesday. ;)
Hello Forum Members:
Does anyone have information on the Golden Ball, supposed to be on or from 23 December 2004, according to The Palace webpage? If a few members are going to be at this event, we could have a WSG Christmas Party!
Cheers!
ChicagoMan
Hello Forum Members:
Does anyone have information on the Golden Ball, supposed to be on or from 23 December 2004, according to The Palace webpage? If a few members are going to be at this event, we could have a WSG Christmas Party!
Cheers!
ChicagoMan
"Golden Ball" just is a kind of lottery. If you pick the Golden Ball when entering the Club, you can win free entrance, half an hour with a girl of your choice or whatever is the price for that day. This "Christmas Lottery" is offered every day until Dec. 23rd
Palace was very low key on Thursday Dec 23, about 20-25 girls and about as many men. There were waits for rooms and at times there were only one or two girls present in the main room. I had two GFE's and a total flop of a threesome. I started with Natalie, a gorgeous 26 year old Pam Anderson type from Belarus with enhanced but natural looking perky c-cups who gave me very nice porn star GFE- what an ass. Next, I met Marina, a 23 year old Lithuanian with a perfect natural hard body, clit ring, and one of the best and most tireless BJ techniques I have encountered, she blew me superblz for 30 minutes. She tasted fine too and looked might appetizing. I spent a delightful hour with her. As we emerged from our one hour session, I met the Desert Fox at the safe boxes paying his beautiful girlfriend Diana. It turns out that Diana and Marina are sisters! So we did a sister act. I vowed to visit the sister soon.
I did just that about an hour and a half later, after Fox and I had some dinner and relaxed to watch the lissome dancer do her stuff on the revolving motorcycle. But one man's pleasure can be another man's poison.
Finally, Dianna was free and I requested a room before someone else snatched her up. No preliminaries, no couch trial, she was matter of fact and all business.There were no rooms available so we sat on a nearby couch to wait but she immediately ran off and came back with an attractive cousin and started selling me on a threesome. I declined but she persisted and I finally agreed.
As they sat on either side of me it felt awkward and forced. Then they tried to sell me lesbo act and since I don't like acting or the pricing for this option at the FKK clubs, I again declined. They began messing with Peppy and started making out together and with me. I reminded them I did not want to pay for lesbo but thez continued. Their English was very limited I should add. Finally we got a room and again we discussed the payment- they insisted they began lesbo and I was to pay for it. I refused and just lay there holding my ground. Finally they relented about the 50 euro per girl lesbo surcharge but of course the damage was done- Diana just sulked, refused to let me play with her and gave an uninspired hand job while her "cousin" did most of the rest. Finally Diana grudgingly mounted me for some vicious cowgirl as the cousin blocked my view as she sat on my face, it really sucked.
When Diana caught me checking my watch so as not to go over 30 minute with this dreadful experince, Diana got even nastier and I aborted this fiasco after 20 minutes. I did not report her to management because my friend is close to her and she knows I am his friend and I dont want to spoil his action. When we emerged, the cousin came for the money while Diana went to talk to her beloved Fox. SCHIESSE. Desert Fox did visit with the sister Marina later in the evening and enjoyed as much as I did. But for me, the night was finished- sauna and relax until 4 AM departure.
I must sign off now since they are moving the Monopol business center to the Excelsior while they close the Monopol for a couple of days. Today is Christmas eve and no clubs are open so it is a day of rest for me. Later dudes and merry XXXmas.
Beffen
Beffen,
I can't believe Diana left a bad taste in your mouth. She is one of the best, nicest, and most fun girls I've been with at an FKK. That surprises me, but I do believe you. Everyone has a bad day, that's for sure. Perhaps this was Diana's bad day. I'd ask that you not judge her on that experience, but rather try her again by herself.
V
Of course everybody has a bad day from time to time, but that was a rip-off.
If I had experienced that it would be reason enough for me to avoid her in the future.
Beffen was kind using the term "low key". for his description of Palace on Thursday night. I would have described it as "provider empty". I got there at just around 09:30 and realized immediately that I should have eaten my 65 Euro entrance fee and gone on to World or Oase. The big jacuzzi wasn't working and most of the food was gone by the time I got there.
At the most I saw maybe four girls alone at any one time for the two hours I was there. They were in and out of the rooms all night and most of the time there would only be one or two girls on the floor. The dancers and bar maids of course don't count. There was no couch action since it was a sellers market. Guys would just walk up to a girl and they went immediately to a room. No interaction whatsoever because of the ratio. At one point I counted 35 guys lounged around the various sofas and not a female in sight.
I'm sure the girls were happy since they were doing non stop business. The Thai girl had 5 customers during the two hours I was there and I will leave it to you to do the math.
I finally approached an older Belgian girl who spoke excellent English and provided a satisfactory, if not spectacular session. Short and not very enthusiastic DFK but she did have a good technique of BBBJ and slipping the condom on before cowgirl. Startled me at first since I didn't know she had slipped it on. Definitely not GFE but I could tell that she and the rest realized this was the time to make money since there wasn't much competition.
My reasoning for going to Palace was to try it for the first time since it is the club that is only 10 minutes from my apartment. I also figured that it might not be so crowded (male) since it was so close to the holiday. Oh well live and learn. Won't condemn the club after only one off experience due to the time of the year. But will definitely inquire in the future if the whirlpool is working or not; since I can always justify the entrance fee if I at least get that relaxation.
Respectfully reported,
LSM
The Diana involved in my ripoff threesome is the younger, slimmer one with beautiful natural breasts and a somewhat angular face, NOT bigger perfect porno queen Barbie-Diana with the very long hair and silicone with whom I did my first anal on my second visit to Palace. I really should have complained to management. They totally played me as a tourist amateur. I should have flatly refused the second girl. I should have walked out of that room. But the super sessions with Marina and Natalie made for splendid evening nonetheless.
I would never ever dream of even approaching this Diana again, she is as contemptuous of me as I am of her. There are too many other fish in the sea. Besides, her face isnt so pretty IMHO
Beffen 1
Oh, that Diana. I went with her once several months ago. It was an ok session and I liked that she left her high-heels on. Not sure that I would repeat a session with her if one of my Top-acts were available.
Dedalus
AH ok... I understand now. I had the siliconized B/C-cup Diana, and was wondering why in the world she would have done that. Ok, I'm back in the fold now and not confused anymore.
Anyone doing an visits to Palace just after New Years?
Valmont,
I will try to make it either to Palace or Oase on the 10th. Jet-lag permitting.
Dedalus
[QUOTE=Dedalus]
I will try to make it either to Palace or Oase on the 10th. Jet-lag permitting.
[/QUOTE]
Well, here is what they recommend for jet lag: drink plenty of fluids and get some exercise. Hmmm ... you can drink all you want at an FKK, and the exercise bit can also be managed nicely.
My money is on Dedalus making it to the Palace on the 10th. I'll try to be there as well.
Euro 100,
That is a pretty safe bet ;-) I am just hoping that Cindy does not decide to return to Bayreuth before I get there.
Dedalus
Some people who should know her plans say that Cindy will work at the Colosseum in Augsburg again next year. :-(
From a German board (Roemerforum):
Cindy soll im neuen Jahr wieder im COLA arbeiten !!
Can't vouch for the statement (Cindy should in the new year again in COLA (COLosseum Augsburg) be working) but if anyone wants to see Cindy at the Palace, you might want to do it soon.
I read that, however i am hoping that she will decide to hang around until I get there. I can hope at least;-)
Dedalus
Novize,
I have never made it to the Coloseum. I know that (at least what I have read on Roemerforum) that the price structure is similar. I this really so? I have not seen Cindy since she immigrated to Bayern and that is way too long for me. I may have to make an Augsburg run in Feb. just for that reason.
I am also curious about Relax in Munich. I have not seen so much about that place but if Nadine is still there, then it may be worth a visit.
Cheers,
Dedalus
I haven´t been at Colosseum so far either. I live in the Rhein-Main-area, so I never had a reason to drive 300 km for a club-visit. Cindy is great, but there are other great providers in in the area I live in.
But from talks with other mongers I know that the pricing structure I exactly the same as in the Rhein-Main-clubs.
I´m not sure if Nadine ist still working at Relax/Munich. You can´t trust the pictures on their homepage - Diana -"Barbie" is still to be seen there, although she´s back at Palace for a long time now. Nadine was said to be back at Palace, too, but I never received a trustworthy confirmation.
Anyway, even if Nadine would still work at Relax, she would charge 75,- €/30 min. there - that´s the Relax-standard-pricing. So, even if one lives in Munich it would be cheaper to go to Augsburg than to visit Relax, since the distance Munich - Augsburg is just about 80 km.
Many thanks for the info, Novize.
Dedalus
Hey,
I am reading on the German board that Cindy is still at Palace. Does anyone happen to know if she is working Monays?
Thanks,
Dedalus (who is really hoping to catch Cindy, Marina and Alyssa this coming Monday:-)
Normally Cindy is working every day and is taking a longer break after some weeks. So your chances are good. But don´t expect to meet her before 7 p.m.
I've just come back from an extended tour (read sex-fest) at the three major Frankfurt FKK clubs. I found Palace the past two weeks to be outstanding and far out-shined the girl selection at other area clubs. There were girls from many countries, with a strong representation from Russia and Russian-speaking countries, plus some Czech, Bulgarian and of course the ever-present Romanian contingents.
I also found some extermely interesting experinces by dipping my beak, so to speak, in the South American click that hung out in the kino, dark cinema room with couches where lots of foreplay takes place. I found that you could just lie in there and girls would come up and give you free handjobs just to get you interested in them. One free-lance Brazilian babe, Jasmina, a 7,5 to 8, slowly massaged and bbbj'd me whilst I was spread-eagled on a couch in the cinema for more than 20 minutes before I led her to an adjacent room for a 50E/30-min romp in a mirrored room. Great value. I also saw another dark-skinned Spanish speaking girl, about a 7.5 in appearance, who virtually camped out on one of the couches in the kino and would "do" most of her clients right there on the couch. I was lying on a couch just above hers, and whilst she would bbbj her clients, she kept looking at me in the eyes and smiling. Then, between sessions she would try to waive me down to her couch so she could "play" with me.
Another girl I had several sessions with was Anastasia from Latvia, a 24-25yo brunette with great skin and shoulder length hair that she wore pinned up a lot. She often wears nothing but a gold-plated chain around her waist. Not the drop-dead stunner that would rate 9, but she did have that “stir you in the loins” look. With that look and the attitude that I was later to discover, I rated her a more attractive session partner than some of the younger physical 9s, who lacked the GFE-leaning attitude and experience. Anastasia was a little shy, but if you showed interest she would look deep into your eyes and engage in deep-tongue kissing. She could hardly speak anything but Russian, but her erotic look and attitude just said: I will want to make you cum! I took her into the kino room on my first encounter and she sat on me and kissed me and then played with me slowly for a long time. I then took her to the room. She insisted to stick her tongue deep in my ass whilst she slowly jerked me off with oil at he same time. I ended up having 4-back to back 1hour sessions (4x100E) with her over two days! She is amazing. She’s there for two more months, I believe.
And then there is Alyssia, a mid-twenties leggy girl from Hamburg, Germany. Here is a girl who most would immediately rate minumum 8.5, based solely on physical attributes, but when you add her attitude, or at least the attitude that I experienced, you have notch the rating up a bit into the 9 – 9+.
First a physical description: About 5’8” or 5’9”, shoulder-length (natural) blonde hair, often worn pulled back in a ponytail. Slim, fit, athletic body with just a trace of flab around the hips and buttocks (perfect!). Very attractive face, superb attitude, though quiet and does not really excel at conversation. If you hit it off, however, you can find other, non-verbal ways to communicate. Alyssia is a true beauty and a bit of an anomaly in that she often works the cinema, but is not like the other “kino rats” in that she is truly very good looking. I actually had several opportunities to engage this beauty during the course of several visits to Palace, but only took advantage on my last visit. Why? I don’t know. I think initially I just did not trust her because A) she was German and I have had so many dud sessions with German girls (although there are also several exceptions to this); B) she was just too damn good looking and I thought she would coast through the sessions on her looks vs. her performance. So much for racial profiling, as when I did eventually go with her, the performance out-stripped her looks! One of the best sessions I had all week, actually. The first thing that grabbed my attention was her DFK, which was staggeringly good. I was surprised to receive this right off the bat, just sitting with her in the kino, because she was German. Then I discovered her fantastic bbbj skills and the rest fell into place. I can’t wait to re-session with her and again I kick myself for not trying her earlier. At least now I know.
I had other top sessions with:
--Natalie of Belarus, a porno-star appearance girl who, beneath the heavy eye-make up, is a real sweetheart and can deliver a so-called PSE.
--Linda from Czech Rep, a large girl with utterly amazing tits and a very sexy look. You have to like this type of look and size to get into it, but if she does “stir” you physically, a session can be most erotic and satisfying as it was for me on two occasions. I liked this girl a lot, but she was constantly in demand and can get tired out towards the end of the night.
--A late twenties, bleached-blonde German girl, Louisa, who, although did not DFK, did provide a very fun and spirited, extended bbbj with lots of variations, including one move where she would take cold water into her mouth and then suck you before she swallowed the water. The day I saw her again, but I had won a small Piccolo bottle by spinning a wheel at the entrance, so I gave it to her and she used it during a long bbbj-session. Great stuff.
All together I found Palace to be in top-notch mode during late January, which coincided with two large Messe events. There were many 8s and 9s, and several rather young German girls came down from Koln and Dortmund areas, esp. for the weekend and middle-week Messe times. It really reminded me of the vibe at the old Atlantis in its heyday. I really liked the vibe inside the Palace kino too, which, as I outlined above was an erotic place to hang out either between sessions or whilst you are getting ready to engage.
I also discovered at Palace that there are some very nice girls who work there during the afternoon/early evening shift, but who leave by 20.00.
Spending several hours in the club over the course of a few consecutive days I met and spoke with a number of girls from different ethnic backgrounds and looks-categories. I was able to notice a few girls I would definitely avoid; very good looking, but a very rush-you-to-the-room attitude and probably would offer a lacklustre performance. One such was a girl who was very good looking (forgot the name, as I only spoke with her once or twice but observed her several times) German girl who said she was half-German/half-Chad. She had very nice natural tits, beautiful skin, but when we first spoke, hardly had she said her name and origin, she immediately began this hard-sell pitch to go to a room together with her friend, etc. I walk away immediately, because I never saw her engage in any kind of lovey-dovey couch action or foreplay of any kind. Bad vibrations.
I observed a click of Russian girls, about a dozen or so, who were all 6s, 7s, perhaps with an 7.5 or two, all of whom were ex-Oase girls. Included were girls like Julia (Russia), Nelly (Kazakh) and Inge (Lithuania). Some of them work the kino a lot, others hang at the backside (whirlpool end) of the upper bar. Some of them, though they are not the best lookers, do indeed provide really top-notch service.
Bottom Line: I went to Frankfurt to visit all three clubs: Oase, World and Palace. I had rented a car so mobility was not an issue. During the first few days I spent more time at Oase than World. But once I got into the vibe at Palace and started to work my way through the 40+ girl line up every night during the Messe times, I ended up at Palace almost exclusively. That is where my erotic instincts led me night after night.
Ortos,
Outstanding observations from Palace. Unfortunately the last time I vistited that club it was rather lame. Probably due to the good weather back in the fall. I really like the venue, good food, nice locker room, sauna, spa, etc.
I can visualize everything you wrote about (except the girsl faces). Sounds like you found your winter playground. Will you spend that much time their in the summer months ?
I recall one of my sessions at Oase when I spent some time with that Latina
vixen,, I think you were sitting their with me as I wandered over to her. I have a thing for Latin women.
Enjoyed the post,
Regards,
Carnal1 aka Lanrac :-)
Ortos,
Outstanding observations from Palace. Unfortunately the last time I vistited that club it was rather lame. Probably due to the good weather back in the fall. I really like the venue, good food, nice locker room, sauna, spa, etc.
I can visualize everything you wrote about (except the girsl faces). Sounds like you found your winter playground. Will you spend that much time their in the summer months ?
I recall one of my sessions at Oase when I spent some time with that Latina
vixen,, I think you were sitting their with me as I wandered over to her. I have a thing for Latin women.
Enjoyed the post,
Regards,
Carnal1 aka Lanrac :-)
Carnal,
The Oase girl was from Bolivia, yes? I remember your leanings toward Latinas, and I'm starting to see that there is indeed life beyond the Russian-speakers, but they are still my staple. When are you next in Germany? Feb/March are great months at these FKKs...
Spent about 4 hours at Palace last Tuesday. Arrived shortly after they opened, so was one of the first guests. Was worried at first, but within 45 minutes there were about 10 girls, and a good selection. Had my first session with a Thai girl "Kay" who was fairly new to the club. Nice session starting on the couch, and after about 20 minutes of DFK and BBBJ action we headed for the room for an increasingly intense session. Once done she said it was the longest she'd spent in the room (must have been about 40 minutes). Good value, and great session, Recommended.
After another hour or so, went to the kino with a girl from Ukraine (name escapes me). Good conversation, and then a trip to the kino. This was a shorter session as we got right into some serious hard fucking in multiple positions.
Overall was pleased with Palace (1st visit after renovation). Same location as Parades, but absolutely a new club. No problem with English either.
Palace is easy to get to by public transport. Take the S8 train Industriehof stop.
Get off at the Industriehof cross the tracks and then a road that runs right next to and parallel to the train tracks. There's a 7 foot high, brick wall. Follow the wall by turning right (the wall on your left side) walk about 50 metres less than 1 minute and come to gap. Turn left through gap, walk straight ahead till you see a sign that says "Konigsbergerstr. 23 (Hinterhaus)" and has an arrow pointing left. Go around the building to the front door in other street. All up from downtown Frankfurt it takes aobut 10 minutes and costs a couple Euro.
Once there have fun. I did. Actually my four hour stay started brilliantly with a small Romania dark hard raver (7.5 to look at but a 10 feel for nastiness). BBBJ, DFK GFE 4play the works ... great. Small break. Pretty good round two another break, sauna, food, drink and then got a bum wrap from a kino-girl from Russia, tall nice tits but too professional, no spirit, no fun really.
I waited for the 'erotic show': what crap. The night however, was a blast overall. Millions of naked women walk, sitting, talking. IMHO there is nothing quite like sitting there watching the world go by as one after another naked women pass you, smile, show you their slits and, if you want will blow you. Can't really beat that!
It's worth a detour. For sure
LongTimeBoy,
Thanks for your post. I think you have some erroneous information though, there at the start, no? I mean, I can assure you the S-bahn goes nowhere near Hausen, but the U-bahn does. There are two stops close to Palace on the U6. That I know. But no S8! So maybe we should clarify this before some poor soul ends up in Bad Soden, or wherever the S8 really does go...
Any chance you could supply a name or two to go with your comments about the girls you saw? For example, what was the name of the Romanian girl you saw? And the bad Russian working the Kino? Just so we can look out for these girls, good and bad, next time we go to Palace? Also which night of the week did you go there?
Thanks again for your contribution.
Day three of my recent trip. Arrived to Palace around 16:30. Relaxed for a while and then met Czech girl called Natalie (if I remember correctly). Blond rather short curly hair with reddish color at the end. Spent some time with her on one of the couches. The session was a very good one with no hurries. She likes to alternate sweat with a little rough play, biting your skin and stuff like that, but it was nothing extreme although I was a bit worried that she would leave some marks on my body.
I think I went over the 30 minutes (I don't wear a watch so I'm not sure), but there was no hint from her that 50e was not enough. I would rank this girl similar to blond perky Julia at World.
Second session was with a black girl from DR. I think her name was Jennifer or Julia. Soft C tits and just a tad overweight. At this time I was not much into working through the session and had her tamper me, giving me massage and stuff like that. When we started the sex, I was kind of just laying there having her ride me and after a while she begged to be touched which I did. Nice session, would repeat.
Around 19:00/20:00 there was an arrival of several stunners (thanks Novize for the tip), and the selection at 20:00 was something like 40-50 girls
Third session was with "don't remember name" from Ukraine. Has dark hair with blonde highlights, nice b/c breasts with large nipples. Hangs out with a dark haired girl. The session was nothing to write home about and we had a bit of a communication problem. I was also in a bit of hurry at this time as I was going out for dinner and the time was 21:30 so I would not judge the girl based on this performance, but I would probably not repeat.
A colleague went with a 1/2 spanish 1/2 someting else girl. One of the grimmer looking girls in the club, but something about her made my collegue go for it. She used every trick in the book to get him over the 30 minutes mark (starting the sex as late as possible in the room, demanding a stay afterwards, smoking a cigarette etc.) and finally charged him 100e for the session as they had stayed over 30 minutes. As my colleague did not wear a watch, he could not argue, but was a bit pissed off although he admitted the session was ok.
Later he went with another of my colleagues together with 2 thai girls. Don't remember their names, but they are very fit although aged 30 and 33. The session was ok, but they both complained about redicoulus loud moans from the taller one which had them laughing their asses off during the session. It was a PSE session.
Now a funny thing: The one doing the taller one (the same one that felt a bit ripped of by the overstaying previously) was not aware that cum on body was extra (He is not a rookie and knows that CIM is extra, but he just did not realize COB was extra). She starts encouraging him to come over her body, and he did, shooting over her tits and some drops reached her face. When they layed down she told him it was 50e extra. My friend beeing sure this was a total rip-off looked angrily at both the girls and said "you are fucking kidding me". The girl said "no, you came on my body and that is extra". He said "you must be joking" angrily and staired at the other girl. She gave the taller one the "back off" look and the tall one then said "yes I'm only joking".
When paying, the taller one begged for 10e extra as she would now have to wash her face and hair and it should only be fair that he paid a little bit. He did.
Afterwards I told him that Cum on body was extra and he should know that, but the girl should also tell him before. He felt kind of bad having been a bit harsh on the girl.
Arrived back at the club around 02:00 (with a return ticket). Had a session with the before mentioned Thai girl (the taller one) as I was curious about the moans (and my friend had also given her good marks despite the COB episode). The sounds from her are unbelivable, her fake moans cracked me up and I had to stop the session to regain my composure. When I was coming, she started again and I finished of in a laughing frenzy, not the most enjoyable way to climax, but an experience none the less.
My fifth and last session was at 3:30 with a lithuanian. Don't remember her name, but it might be Anna. Did her in the Kino as all the rooms were occupied. She is a bit chubby and her breasts are a bit misshapen, perhaps from a bad implant job. She also seemed to have rather bad teeth, but I was going for a last release of the night so I really did not care at this time. The session was nothing to write home about.
The staff at Palace is very nice, especially the woman greeting the visitors. When I left for dinner, I was a bit ahead of my colleagues and had to wait. I chatted with the front door staff and they were very sweat, offering me to wait at the bar if I wanted and even offering me to go and grab some food from the buffet while I was waiting. The buffet at Palace is also the best one of the three big FRA clubs, but I still like Oase a bit more than Palace, but Palace comes close second.
Chivaz
Visited the Palace twice over the weekend and Cindy (Poland) was there one day and Marina (Lithuania) the other. Laura from the Dominican Republic has moved from Oase as well as Yulia (Russian) and several others. The overall selection both days was very good though business seemed to be slow.
I would also like to add my two cents to some of the previous reports. In my experience, COB is not extra. Very rarely, a girl will try to charge extra if she thinks the customer doesn't know the ropes but just say you want to talk about it at the counter and most likely she'll drop it right then and there. That Chivaz's friend had "some drops reach her face" might have made the difference in the girl's point of view but in general if COB and CIM were the same price, who would do COB?
As Ortos has already pointed out, Long Time Boy's directions to the Palace are a bit off. In addition, the Hinterhaus sign has been gone for well over a year. So according to his post, he took a train which goes nowhere near the Palace to get to the Palace, saw a sign which isn't there and then had several anonymous women, some good and some bad. If you were really at the Palace, I would also like to thank you for your contribution, but your post leaves me scratching my head.
I never do COB myself, but was somehow under the impression that it was 50 extra. Dunno why, but think I have read it couple of times on the boards. Perhaps my memory is failing me.
Chivaz
You are absolutely right. Don't know how I made the mistake. The right train is U6 or U7. The stop is DEFINATELY Industrie Hof, so catch whatever gets you there.
Would have posted earlier but couldn't get on.
Will post more details of my good time later.
[QUOTE=Ortos]LongTimeBoy,
Thanks for your post. I think you have some erroneous information though, there at the start, no? I mean, I can assure you the S-bahn goes nowhere near Hausen, but the U-bahn does. There are two stops close to Palace on the U6. That I know. But no S8! So maybe we should clarify this before some poor soul ends up in Bad Soden, or wherever the S8 really does go...
Any chance you could supply a name or two to go with your comments about the girls you saw? For example, what was the name of the Romanian girl you saw? And the bad Russian working the Kino? Just so we can look out for these girls, good and bad, next time we go to Palace? Also which night of the week did you go there?
Thanks again for your contribution.[/QUOTE]
Otros,
More info. Sadly I cannot remember the name of the hot Romanian who was my first 'port of call' at Palace. It was Saturday early evening and there were two dark haired Romanian girls who hung around the bar at the top of the stairs opposite the motor bike. One was tall, maybe 5'8" the other shorter about 5"4". The shorter one, the one I went with looked about cute but possible had a (too much) bigger ass. BTW, that ass looked fantastic bouncing away in reverse CG and doggy. Indeed, it shows you how looks can be deceiving, not much on parade, but really, really special in action.
The taller one had big titts and was somewhat more forward. When not with someone, they spent the whole night together. If they are there again, you could not miss them.
I was pretty jet-lagged and so cannot remembe their names.
FKK Palace,
My first FKK visit! I’ve been lurking on the FKK pages for ages and thought that no P4P can be that good!– and if it is then it has the potential to be a very dangerous addiction. But after nine months of experiencing financial meltdown every time I thought I could afford a visit, I threw caution to the wind and let curiosity and lust get the better of me.
I arrived about midday having got up at five am to maximise my stop over time in Frankfurt. About 12 girls and 8 punters around. Very relaxed and sophisticated atmosphere.
Started with Marsha – a cute Russian (about 24 I would guess) who was lounging in the Sauna. Her sweat slicked, skinny body and small perky tits with the most amazingly large acorn size brown nipples turned me on straight away. She said cute ass as she left and I asked for a kiss. It was teasing but tasted good. We flirted a bit and she joined me on a couch soon after. Fifteen minutes of checking her out on a couch and we headed to a room. She had great oral techniques and her hair was in two plaits, which occasionally trailed down the side of my bollocks in a most teasing way. Memorable moments include an irresistible light tongue tickling of my balls which had me squirming and one moment when she pushed my knees back to my shoulders and licked from the base of my scrotum to the tip of my cock. If she had continued like that I would have been spent in a few minutes. I can’t actually remember if I penetrated her. She finished me with a hand job while spitting saliva onto the tip of my dick – an interesting and exciting finale which had me spurting over both shoulders and my neck.
Looks 8 (but as the afternoon went on my rating went up – she had a very natural feel too her)
GFE 5 – we didn’t make contact but that might have been due to my nerves
Technique 7. Spoiled only by the “woman on the edge of an orgasm” soundtrack that she provided before we even started.
Second was Nicolette (21) – a pre raephalite elfin (but not short) goddess from Romania, with goldilocks tresses half way down her back. I’d flirted with her as soon as I had got in the club told and told her we would talk later, but I held back because she was so beautiful that I thought she would just coast through the session. But I saw her pull a guy in the Kino by deep kissing him while jerking him to an erection and seeing she put in some effort I thought I must have her. She’s tall (5’ 8” or so) with a perfect figure and poise. Every time she walked around the room to get a drink (show off her body) I couldn’t keep my eyes off her (even after the session). We kissed and it was deep and enthusiastic – we went to a room I asked her to lick me slow but every time she got quick. Twenty five minutes passed with me enjoying every moment but not getting close to an O. She warned me time was nearly up and I said fine lets just do another half hour. It didn’t matter whether I was going to come or not – it was just so nice having this perfectly formed young girl with her pussy in my face and her tongue trailing round my dick. We had a couple of rests and joked and teased each other a bit. I pojnted to the little spot of pubic hair she had left by the top of her triangle and asked why the Mohican?. She asked if I prefer women who were hairy down there, then said really hairy and indicated a beehive pubic hairstyle and we laughed and it broke the ice. Back to business and it was obvious that her flapping tongue oral technique – nice as it was - didn’t have much variety and wasn’t going to do the trick. I moved her so she was on her knees playing with herself facing the mirror with me behind her. She put her other hand behind her back and started to jack me off. My very own porn movie with one of the most beautiful women, that has ever walked the planet! I quickly came into the small of her back but she didn’t ask for any extra. I think her pride was offended that she hadn’t made me come in an hour
Looks 10 +
Technique 5 – but I think due more to inexperience than bad attitude and also the very short time lag after Marsha.
GFE 7/8 she wanted very much to please – but she was also working the club very hard. If she didn’t have a punter at her seat in ten minutes she did a tour round to the kino – and with looks like that few men would say no. She says she’s independent, sending money home to her family and her mother knows what she does. I’d like to her life is that uncomplicated but I’m not sure if I do.
Having being blown twice in two hours I decided to slow down and booked a massage to sort out my other aching muscles. Hooked up with a lovely Moroccan lass with great hair while waiting and promised her a visit after a massage – which was great and really worth the money. Got chatted up by a really fat but very jolly Turkish girl with huge tits after the massage but made my excuses looking for somewhere to recuperate after the massage. But I hadn’t even found a vacant seat when I saw her – talking with Nicolete. A tall black soul sister, with long legs, long black tresses and a silver belly piercing - name of Tica (if you can believe that) from Dom Rep. The first black girl I’d seen in Palace. Probably in her early thirties with slightly saggy tits – but her energy and body language more than compensated. I just put my hands on her ass asking where she had been all day. We established that we didn’t have a common language but our eye contact was strong enough to overcome that and for me to forget about recuperating after an intense massage. After three minutes of her pinning my arms to the wall and shimmering up and down my body she nearly frog marched me to a room to give me the porn star experience of my life.
She turned the lights up bright, pulled of the little piece of red chiffon around her waist and started pulling it between her legs. Pushed her shoulders against the wall thrust her hips out and worked her fingers from her mouth down to her pussy with her ass going lower and lower till she was limbo dancing with one finger stroking her pussy lips. She pointed to the footstool which I put under her ass and she started wanking herself in front of me with her ass hanging off the edge of the stool. I was immediately hard again. A few minutes later she’s slipped a cock ring on me, was opening her pussy lips with a vibrator and had one finger up her ass. A few more minutes and the back of her knees were over my shoulders and I had a ring side seat of her ramming a vibrator inside herself while dribbling oil over her tits and belly. We swapped hands and I took over the dildo and massaging her tits while she was wanking me off and tickling my balls. She slipped on a condom and we fucked missionary over the footstool and, though she was screaming unfeasibly loudly it felt like spontaneous theatre. She might ot have been coming but she was enjoying putting a show. We switched to doggy still using the footstool as a prop. When she felt me start to soften a little she pushed me away – back on to the bed and expertly wanked me to a climax. We hi- fived each other. A truly joyful and spontaneous session.
She had asked a bit more in the middle of the show and we had negotiated a mid price (75 Euro) but she had been worth every cent and we had easily hit 40 minutes. She said how much fun the footstool had been as if it was new discovery for her. I think I’d got lucky - been her first punter of the night and she had decided to give me her best shot.
Later another soul sister (mulatto not black) (Jenifer?) in her early twenties with a beautiful face, pouty lips but bad attitude came over and started to do a lesbo number on her (for my benefit) and tica pushed her away- saying something about me being her friend. Twice later in the evening when I was wondering if I had the strength or the inclination for a fourth round Tica saw me passing and opened her legs and stroked her pussy while staring me straight in the eye. One hot girl. I get the impression that the coloured girls at Palace don’t get a lot of trade, which is a shame because this one put in a lot more effort.
Supper time came: the place got busy, lots of beautiful girls walking round in the buff queueing like students at the refectory, but blithely naked. Such beauty and diversity in the female form- worth the entrance fee just for the body show. Does life ever get this good? I turned down more offers of sex in an hour and a half than I have turned down during the rest of my life: as I thought about ricardos’ law of diminishing returns and doubted my strength or their ability to top Tica’s mindblowing exhibition. Left reluctantly about 7 having already missed my scheduled train, hoping there was another (there was) and wondering when my next bonus was due.
Thank you for all the contributors to these pages over the years who have slowly convinced me that if I died without going an FKK club my life would have been incomplete. Visiting Place is like having a one day membership to your own personal harem. FKKs (or at least Palace) is to a red light district what a eight course banquet is to a takeaway kebab. P4P sex had always left a bad taste in my mouth (no pun intended) – apart from some semi pros in west Africa! I left feeling relaxed and happy, with a big smile on my face. Best therapy I’ve ever had. Every pretty girl I see now queuing for coffee, I can imagine with naked breasts and a piece of chiffon round her waist- and then they smile back at me! It has carried over to my professional life (the day after I was informally invited to tender for a dream contract). Truly, good things come to those who dare pursue their dreams. I just wonder how long the “Palace effect” will last. After eight months of doubting my ability to finance an FKK trip (or habit) I would recommend it to any man who has ever felt intimidated by beautiful women and wants to challenge that feeling.
Total damage for the day – including entry, three girls and a massage (plus sauna and free refreshments) 320Euro. My main regret was that there was no pool and all day I saw no girls in the Jacuzzi and only one in the sauna. As spring rolls around my thoughts will turn to somewhere with more outdoor facilities.
Long 'Time Boy's instructions were spot on. I found with the place no trouble. But I think the line is S6 - S7. If coming from the hauptbahnhoff you have to travel two stations north west and change. If you can't see Industrie hof on the ticketmachine just buy a franfkurt dagkarte for > 5.00
for the great report!
And welcome to the club of the FKK-addicted. ;)
Palace is great in winter (although the Yacuzzi is just a bubbling tarn) and, as your report proves, has a satisfying selection of women even in the dayshift.
Just some remarks about Nicolette/Nicoletta - you can´t call her inexperienced. She has already been workng at ATL before it´s first closing and is in the business for approx. 2 years now. During my last visits at Palace I watched her serving clients in row: 5 minutes hunting and approaching the next victim, 12 min. in the room, 3 min. washing earned her (at least) 150,- €/hour. She had worked in that manner at ATL already. But I never heard one of her customers complaining about that. Most clients seemed to be happy with her service. And your session shows that she can go over a longer distance. But be happy she was your second session, not your first one... ;)
Latina women often offer extraordinary good service, especially when they like a client - and they are well-known for that. They are willing to make your weirdest dreams come true ans so many guys are looking out for them. So you don´t have to be worried about their business. They may see some bad days. But over the time they earn their money.
I hope you won´t need another nine months - summer would be over then without you having enjoyed the great outsoor-facilities and -actions at a place like World or Oase.
Come back soon,
and in the meantime have fun,
Novize
Unscheduled stopover last Thurs. in FRA due to bad weather and missed flight connections. Who am I to complain if Lufthansa decides to put me up for the night at the Sheraton Airport, with no meetings or dinners planned, and that expense account beckoning?
Called my FRA taxi driver friend, T*** and asked him what he recommended for a really cold and snowy Thursday night - Palace, he says the rest of the town is dead, no Messe, too cold, bars empty, Palace is the place for you. I offered him a free session as I always do and he expects the offer, but is too scared of his old lady.
As I walk in, Cindy, enters the VIP with another girl and a guy and spends the next 3 hours there. But Marina the goddess is free and bored. A great 1 hour session. She has one of the most perfect bodies ever created and once again, I lose concentration and just stare at her. Can't take my eyes off of that face and body.She knows it - keeps sauntering past me later with those breasts, that ass, those eyes, that total package. Just a sex bomb. E pluribus Unim, or whatever the correct Latin phrase is for G-d Almighty. Offer a 3some with her friend from Lithuania who didn't have any business all night. Not a good idea - that other girl would be ignored.
Chilled down at sauna and massage, eating and went on the hunt. Found her -Linda from Czech Republic, who I've read about on the German forums. Great eyes and large breasts. So-so session. She was a little depressed and also complained about the lack of business - as previously noted here she ususually is very busy. Not tonight.
Went to the kino to nap as I was still on U.S. time. Ran into the S. America contingent there too - successfully fended off unsolicited gropings while regenerating crucial body fluids. But then Linda from Seychelles walks in. Chunky body, not really my body type usually, but one of the nicest personalities of any FKK girls, smart personable, good English, Creole laissez faire attitude. She remembered a previous session and just asked if she could chill out with me while I rested. Great marketing idea. Fabulous fun session followed, laughing giggling, teasing. Highy recommended for fun not just the sexual type. She also said that things have been very slow.
I hadn't been to Palace in about 2 months. The selection of women was varied and interesting with many veterans, some stars ( O' Marina) but also many relatively new sp. The food as always was good. The facility is underused and I shudder to think what organisms reside in the constantly still waters of the Jacuzzi. I have to say that I find it a warmer environment, and more intimate than World, and the sp selection is simply better. IMO Oase stil reigns above the other super clubs for these very same reasons, but mostly because it just radiates far more sexual energy in the air.
Hard to describe. But what is common amongst all, is that business is hurting during these dog days of winter and I imagine there'll be some big parties when spring rolls in to try and recapture that lost aura.
T*** picks me up and asks how it was. I tell him. He says that the whole city has lost its aura. Can't explain why - economy? crime? Is it just the winter doldrums or something deeper in the German malaise?
IseeU,
Great report. I just spent last night (Friday 5th March) at Palace. Arrived around 22.00 found it hopping. Although not as many girls as I found last month during a back-to-back Messe period, I was not too dis-satisfied with the line-up at Palace. About 50 girls, just as you described: a mix of known stars and some new talent. It was interesting to see more than a few Lithuanians, including the often-travelled Valentina, who started at the old Atlantis, travelled to World for about a year, then moved to Oase and now has migrated to Palace. As I hung out right till closing last night, I could see that there was a very, very good selection of girls until about 2.00, then some started to leave. There was also long waits for rooms, as one might expect on a Friday. I saw many of the girls you mention, Cindy, Linda (Cz), Daniella (Romania), Christina (Romania), Linda (Seychelles), Marina and several other Lithuanians, but there were at least half a dozen new girls I wanted to check out but never got a chance...I'll have to go back.
Hanging in the Kino, I also ran into the S. American (mainly Venezulean) contingent. Had a great long session with a buxum playful girl Jessie, who was a girl I had observed during my last visits who often camped out in the Kino, and did alot of her clients there. I let her have her way with me for about 15-20min in Kino, before I went to a room with her for an hour. Interestingly, she tried to bend her calculation of the time a bit (rounding it upwards!), but when I corrected her forcifully, she dropped the attempt. Passionate lady, but business-oriented in the end.
I had a few chances to land Marina, but got side-tracked with an old flame, Alyssia, the blonde German sexy-9! She was so passionate to me, and we click so well, I decided to invest with her. But I will go back to Palace later in the week, perhaps Monday/Tues., when not so croweded to work my way through other elements of the girl line-up.
A couple of notes:
The food ran out shortly after 23.00 and was never re-plentished.
They re-did the lockers at Palace, so that now the full-length lockers are only half as big, meaning that they can fit twice the amount of customers in the club. Business may be slow, but they are clearly counting on bigger and better days...
With the lockers half-size and so many ex-Atl. girls there, the place more and more reminds me of the old Altenstadt club....
Bottom Line: I was very happy with the whole vibe and girl-line up at Palace. If you know how to select a patner properly, then you can have great value here.
I will look forward, in the coming days, to compare this place with the other two big clubs here.
Ortos
Yes they did. It was a mess. I turned up on Friday morning early (10.15) to squeeze in a short session, to be TURNED AWAY!! Told me to come back in an hour. So drove on up to World.
Oh, I should have noted in my comments below, about Palace last Friday night: I was pleasantly surprised to see the beautiful Russian girl, Masha, working at Palace. I last saw this girl at Oase last year and at the start of this year. But now she seems to make Palace her working venue, when she does work. Just another example of how some free-lance FKK girls can/do migrate between the clubs from time to time.
If that is true it might change my life. Mascha remains my untoched number one!
Well, Peter, it is certainly true. I saw her again last night too. Spent some time with her chatting and massaging in the kino, before we sessioned in the room. She seems quite at home at Palace. Such a nice sweet person, but playful and with a strong sense of humour. As always, she wears her hair in pigtails but also occassionally lets it all down, and she is tan and wears the telltale garter strap around her upper left thigh.
Should I give her a message for you, Peter? I will see her again tonight and probably tomorrow too...Sorry to inform you, though, she is no longer "untouched."
Ortos
Hi Ortos,
Setting up shop at Palace are you? Those half sized lockers can't be good, are they dividing the money safes too? I can hardly fit my passport in there. You can't beat the U4 -to U6 connection from the old Monopol- if you dilly dally in the lockers at closing time you can be at the Ubahn stop down the block by 4:20 for the first train. Who is this Mascha? Hair, body, actress/model comparisons man. Ripple 66 describes Marsha-
Started with Marsha – a cute Russian (about 24 I would guess) who was lounging in the Sauna. Her sweat slicked, skinny body and small perky tits with the most amazingly large acorn size brown nipples turned me on straight away. She had great oral techniques and her hair was in two plaits, which occasionally trailed down the side of my bollocks in a most teasing way.
Is this her?
Iseeu,
I agree totally about Linda from Seychelles. This girl LIKES her sex. A sweetie with a lilting voice and a great deep throat BJ and fun to smooch with on the couch too. And Marina, the Lithuanian goddess of the 30 minute languorous BBBJ and the bejeweled cookie- Ortos- what are you waiting for.
Beffen
i aint waitin fo nothin! i have set up my camp at palace, but maintain a branch office at oase these days as well. both clubs have produced a slew of young, slim petite [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]-types, right up your alley, beffen!
this masha is definitely the one described in the passage you quote. she is one of the best looking, [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] in the business. too bad you have yet to find her. she was at palace fri and monday nights, but not last night. my guess is she lives up in nwr area, and commutes down to frankfurt area clubs for odd extended weekend work. she is ever popular. this past few days at palace i have observed her work in the kino and on the couches by the swinging bench. she occassionally teams up with another russian girl, eleni, (who claims to be greek, but most certainly is not!) for threesomes.
over the past few days i did sample masha and linda seychelles. great sessions. but i have had other even more passionate encounters with alyssa (de), linda (cz) and esp. with a super sexy fresh-off-the-boat cuban girl, another linda. this last girl kisses me so deeply and blows me so long and gentle, she makes me feel like i am her long-lost love! that is what some of these latinas can do... but all of these linda girls really rock my world at the moment...
ortos
Nice to be so extensively quoted in beffen's last post. seems like my first FKK pnt was one of the more valued service providers.
But curiosity prevails, whats the symolism of the white garters? I noticed a few and my Costa Rican tica was wearing one. Surely it doesn't mean virgin?
Since most of the posters indicate that they like The Palace when it is busy a friend had a hell of a time getting a hotel room in Frankfurt for next week. So I looked up what was going on at the Messe and found the following:
International Trade Fair
Building and Energy Technology
The Bathroom Experience
Air-conditioning and Ventilation
from 15 to 19 March 2005
Can't tell if it is three different trade fairs or one combined but appears to be just the type of attendees that would go to The Palace.
Respectfully reported,
LSM
Stopped by the Palace on Saturday March 5th, first time. Nice place, smaller than both World and Oase but the interior decor is nice. However I did not come there to study the decor.
I fell for Marcela from Brazil (I actually like tan lines and fake breasts). We went to a room, and she started sucking me in a furious way. After a short while, on with the condom, and she rode me cowgirl style like a maniac. Obviously she wanted me to come as soon as possible. It was almost violent, and certainly no tender GFE.
Anyway, after a while I wanted to change over to doggy style, and when I pulled out of her - get this: Stuck to my condom was the tip of an old condom. She was very surpirsed (and so was I...) and she said: "Uh oh - thats not good". Anyway, I should have left then and there I guess, but wanted to finish first.
Langsuan Man posted dates for the next Frankfurt Messe as March 15-19. Be advised that it can be a real ***** to get any kind of a hotel room in Frankfurt during Messe that doesn't cost you an arm and a leg. It's comparable in the U.S. to trying to book a room in New Orleans during Mardi Gras.
However, if you have wheels and don't mind a little driving, the sticker shock for a room can be lessened (maybe). Below are two hotels I recommend that are forty to forty-five minutes or so (depending on traffic) from Palace, if you're determined to visit Palace in Frankfurt. They're also about a half hour or less from World. They're both off of the A45 northeast of Frankfurt.
Tryp Hotel in Langenselbold. Gelnhauser Strasse 5 63505 Langenselbold.
Nice basic business hotel - nothing fancy for rooms. I stayed there once during a Messe and got the published rate of 45 euro/night, even though the attendant told me they sometimes jack up the rates for Messe if things get tight enough in Frankfurt.
Hotel Zum Goldenen Boden in Altenstadt. Phillip-Reis Strasse 5. 63674 Altenstadt. This is a little more difficult to find, but if you go to any old post about how to get to Atlantis, you're basically there. Last time I stayed there, in November 2004, I could see the sadly defunct Atlantis - still lit up and a bit less than a block away - right through my sliding glass door. The good news: its published rate is 28 euro for a small room, 35 euro for a big one on the top floor (recommended). Breakfast included. Although Atlantis has sunk beneath the waves, the last I heard Xtreff was alive and well in Altenstadt, and it's about a 2-minute drive from the hotel.
You can look up either hotel on Hotel.de for availability. If I could go to Germany during the middle of March I surely would (can't, though) and would straightaway head for World to meet up with Shiatsu and Cordelia again. If you get a chance to meet them, do so. They are extraordinary people. All the best to you this round at World and Beverly, S & C!
Fridays at Palace have their positives and negatives. IMHO the Friday lineup is the best of the Frankfurt clubs. Admittedly since many of my favorites are there at this time I am biased. The negative; most FKKers also think this and therefore the place is usually pretty full. Nothing compared to Oase on a busy night, but considering Palace’s size, it can seem pretty crowded. Especially when one is waiting for a room.
I arrived at 8PM to a pretty full house. At the entrance I saw Cindy who was just starting. I was hoping that I could get changed quickly enough to scoop her up, for she is a dandy, but I think the shock of the new lockers slowed me down a bit. I saw her in the main club area but some horny dude beat me to the punch. I was even more disappointed when I saw that she would be waiting for a room for probably 15 minutes.
One observation: It was blonde night at Palace. There were quite a few blondes who were definite “911s”. ST’s Alyssa, Marina, Cindy, Danella, Diana, and a handful of killerettes that I did not recognize but are defiantly on the “to do” list. One who reminds me somewhat of Anita from Starlight ladies who was constantly booked while I was there. Another, a fine-bodied blonde wearing black leggings on her ankles. I found out later that her name is Janni. More later…
Around 8:45 I saw ELANA wearing knee-high white “Fick-mich” boots and a cute smile. The girl has beautiful eyes and a very sexy body. According to her she is Greek but I would bet that she is really Russian. For those of you who remember the Russian VICA who use to work at Atlantis, well she is very similar. She caught me about to head into the kino and sort of nudged me to one of the mats close to the screen. The girl has great BBJ technique and loves to stare at you while she is working. WOW! We decided to move our act to one of the rooms and luckily enough we found one free. Her service is more than above average and defiantly worth a repeat performance. BBJ, Multi-positions etc.
Apres le splender l'amore I had a bit of hunger. The Palace has switched caterers and the results are less than positive but a man’s got to have some nourishment. During dinner I struck up a conversation with one of the girls who told me that there are plans to build expand Palace with a second floor. That would be a good move since the size of this place on a crowded night is a big negative.
Shortly after finishing my disappointing meal I saw MARINA walk in. Enough has been written about this delightful Lithuanian that there is not much that I can add. Suffice it to say that, as it often is with her, it was the best session of the evening and for that matter the weekend.
After Marina I really was planning to head back to the Monopol and rest up for my outing with Fred and ST the next day. However that sexy blond with the black leggings kept invading my thoughts. Especially as I was having a coffee at the bar close to the entrance and she sat near me. Soon we struck up a conversation and I found out a bit about her. Her name is JANNI and she is very charming. Her body type is similar to Marina’s. She speaks some English but clearly felt more comfortable with German. I wisked her off to a room and after a 10 minute wait with much groping we finally got down to business. Gents, this lady is a find. The girl knows sex and knows how to use that body of hers. Great BBJ, 69, good mix of GFE and wild porn sex. Very high repeat factor!
name: Janni
hair: blonde, long
size: ~ 1,75 m
figure: slender, B/C-breast
origin: dutch/german
born: ~ 1984
tattoos/piercings: A rose behind her right shoulder
service: Super. great bbbj, Kisses but without tongue
other: Usually hangs out at the small bar close to the entrance
location: Palace usually works the 2nd calendar week of each month with a few exceptions.
After my Janni session I figured that it would be wise to rest up for the next day of debauchery with Fred and ST. I figured that I could save interfacing with Cindy for another day. Perhaps Friday the 18th.
Cheers all,
Dedalus
Last weekend I was able to make several trips to the Palace and in addition to the usual suspects, I tried out three new (to me) girls:
Sonya from Berlin. She has jet black hair beyond her shoulders and wears black knee high boots. If you look at her from the neck down she is an absolute goddess, her face just doesn't match up. In the room she was also disapointing, no kissing, enough BBBJ just to get me hard enough to put on a gummi and then a short CBJ. We tried a few positions put she was just going through the motions and soon started a violent HJ hoping to end things as soon as possible. I stopped her as the HJ was becoming extremly painful and there was no way I was going to have a happy ending from this experience. That was the first ten minutes. We actually spent the next twenty minutes in the room talking and she was very pleasant to be with but she seems to be in the wrong job or we just didn't click.
Linda from Czech Republic. Tall, with shoulder length auburn hair, always smiling, could loose a few pounds, huge breasts. DFK, BBBJ, GFE...Friendly, sweet girl, hope to see her again.
Nadia from Morocco. She was wearing a medalion of the Albanian crest, looked Eastern European but said she was from Morocco. Who knows? She is very short and has brown hair with blonde highlights. She was also alot of fun. Extended DFK, BBBJ, multiple positions, she seems to really enjoy her job. She would sometimes dance with the pole when the "formal" dancers were on break.
One caveat, the tallest Thai girl is a ladyboy, if that is your thing have fun, if not, you have been warned.
I'll be at Palace this afternoon and tonight. I'll be the guy who, if you watch AMerican TV, looks a lot like Chandler from the television show Friends. I usually sit at the big bar and smoke Marlboro Lights. I plan to get there around 1500 or 1600. If anyone else is there tonight, stop by and say hello.
V
Last week I visited the FKK club in Nürnberg, the Sylt club.
As I did not had a car, a taxi took me, around 22.30, there which cost me 15 Euro to and the same back to the city centre. As I left around 04.00 I think that was rather reasonable.
When I came into the club, I paid my 60 Euro entrance, and saw that there were at least 20 girls around. all the girls are naked which I personally find a pity. Walking around does not leave any imagination how the girl looks. Besides a nice sexy outfit is more attractive in my opinion. But who am I, the owner of the club wants it like that I found out.
The club has a house room with some corners to sit, a sauna and a cinema. In all places there is enough sitting space for 2 or 3 and it happens that you get a warm-up in the open.
When sitting and watching a movie a good looking slim German girl with her long hear in a ponytail, asked me if I wanted to get some action. She sat next to me and in fact was rather cool. I made the mistake to get up and go to a room with here. She was rather cool, no hugging, kissing or DATY. A covered blowjob which she did quite good as I came too quickly.
Then I discovered some 4 girls from Turkey and as I do speak Turkish we had a long talk. Finally the young long black hear tall girl put here head on my lap and started playing with my young man. We decided to go to the room where she started to kiss and cares my nipples. She allowed me to lick here shaven pussy. In short, I had a fine 30 minutes with here. And although she faked the groaning, she turned me on.
Then I had to rest a while but was not left alone by Ebru, another Turkish girl that followed me already all night. Finally she got my willy stiff again and we decided to start with a BBBJ. She started already when we were sitting down and we were spied on. This does give me a kick but Ebru wanted to go upstairs, so we did.
There she gave me a warm kiss at the mouth and I felt here nipples going hard. She was wet and my finger went in easily. She did a great BBBJ where I had to stop here a few times. After that we did some different positions and when I finally finished she put here arms around me and kissed me passionately.
That was the end of a nice evening that was not really cheap but I would go there again.
Prices:
60 € entrance
50 € per 30 minutes, all covered
100 € per 30 minutes with BBBJ
Hi Fats,
quote: "One caveat, the tallest Thai girl is a ladyboy, if that is your thing have fun, if not, you have been warned"
Couple of my collegues went with "her" and her friend for a 4some session. Afterwards we had a pretty detailed discussion about this as I mentioned that she looked like a post-op trans, but my collegues did not agree. It was the voice that prompted me to think she is post-op. We did look for some other proof of this but could not find any (belive me we did some thorough checking) so I was not as sure, but still had this feeling.
They kind of convinced me that she was a she so I went with her. I had this kind of strange feeling throughout the session that she was actually not she (still her voice that gave me this feeling). Well if she is a post-op, its a first (and I hope last ;-) for me.
What makes you sure about this?
Chivaz
I wonder what would happen if, after going into a room with a ladyboy at Palace, you discover half-way through the session that you are being scammed. You march yourself and her/him to the front reception desk and tell the management that you are not going to pay for the session because you have been misled into thinking your were having a session with a girl. Basically you were the victim of fraud. Would the managment support you?
Damn straight they would!
Hi Guys,
Ill be making my first visit to the Palace on Monday 28th of this month, infact its my first visit to a German FKK club. I have been to the FKK in Prague, although I know from this board that it doesnt compare to the best German clubs.
Plan : Flight lands at 10 am , should make it to my hotel - IBIS Frankfurt west by 11 - 12 pm. (nearest hotel to the club - 1 km ) [url]http://www.ibishotel.com/ibis/fichehotel/gb/ibi/1589/fiche_hotel.shtml[/url]
I will probably have a sleep for a few hours and then walk down to the club around 5 pm and stay there till the early hours.
On Tuesday I plan to visit the club from around 11 am till 4 pm , then Ill have to head to the airport for my flight home.
So If any members plan to be there on those days at those times, please let me know ??
Cheers
Fred
In the evenings IMHO Palace has a line-up that rivals or exceeds any club in Frankfurt. During the day, like any other club, one's chances of meeting the best girls is less than in the evenings.
Good luck,
Dedalus
Guys,
I've been to Palace before on a Monday when there has been no trade fair and I'm planning to go tommorrow evening (Mon 14th). Has anyone any experience on how busy it is when there is a trade fair at the Messe ?
Thanks
Since it´s 75 - 90 minutes less travel time from my homebase to Palace than to World (back and forth), I decided to go to Palace instead of World on my "short sundays".
Arriving at 8 p.m. I tried to get something to eat, but the first portion of food dad already been eaten by some hungry wolves. So I swat down on the smaller swing right in front of the fruit basket and ate some bananas, while watching the girl´s parade.
The club was more crowded than World on sundays, but the guy/girl-ratio was OK. Most known Top-Acts were off duty. I recognized Barbie-Diana, Dilara, Czech Linda, some interesting new faces and - Anjelica!
Of course she had newly coloured hair and so she introduced herself as Nicole from Cologne - she likes this kind of playing games. We had a drink togehter before we changed in one of the rooms.
Anjelica is known for outstanding service for years, and she really gave some credit to her fame! A great session with a great provider.
The stats:
name: Anjelica
hair: brown with blond strings, short
size: ~ 1,65 m
figure: slim, A-breast
origin: russian
born: ~ 1973
tattoos/piercings: tattoo on the right side of her back
service: full pro. range from GFE to PSE
other: charming, intelligent, good conversation
location: FKK-Palace
The session with Anjelica would have earned a more delicious dinner than stuffed cabbage with potatoes, but that was the only thing served in the evening.
After meal it was time for a light rest, so I went in the cinema for some sleep. Unfortunately the business was too low for the women to overcome the temptation of waking me up for in "invitation" every 1 minutes. Much more nicely than at World, but the result was the same...
At a certain point I gave up my resistance and let Rebecca from Germany take command of Novize jr. She handled the little guy with good expertise and so we soon changed the location and went into one of the rooms. I didn´t even try to kiss her, so I can´t really say if she would refuse DFK. BBBJ was good, DATY gladly accepted, and after some 69 we went into the "real action". We had sex in different positions and ended up doggie-style. Rebecca was not a real GFE (to me?) but delivered solid action. Thinking of the alternatives available at Palace, I wouldn´t repeat the session anyway.
The stats:
name: Rebecca
hair: brown, straight, long
size: ~ 1,65 m
figure: slim, A-breast
origin: german
born: ~ 1983
tattoos/piercings: none
service: solid average, DFK not tested.
other:
location: FKK-Palace
After showering I mede a second attemot for Extreme-relaxing again, and this time the women let me sleep for about 90 minutes. When I woke up, Sarah (former FKK-Beach) approached me for a little chat. She wanted more, but I was still too tired. She wasn´t angry and left with a kiss and a smile in her face. Prebooked for my next visit on March 28th, if she works over the Easter holidays.
I watched the movie (I don´t like this stuff, I was just too tired to stand up and walk away), and after some time a latin woman placed herself at my feet, introduce herself as Jenny from Dom. Rep. and began to carress Novize jr. I talked something about "dead" and "finished for today", but she didn´t give up and managed to get some life in Jr. again. After a nice time of kissing and cuddling in the cinama, we went to a room. She started with a passionate BBBJ, I answered with extended DATY, which she really seemed to enjoy (And the Oscar goes to...). Jenny is not the youngest woman at Palace, she has a big scar on her stomach (Caesarian?), her breasts are not perfect, but she showed great attitude and passion. I took her a tergo. looking at her nice buns and didn´t need very long to finish.
The stats:
name: Jenny/Jennifer
hair: brown with blond strings, long and curly
size: ~ 1,65 m
figure: slim, B-breast
origin: Dom. Rep.
born: ~ 1978
tattoos/piercings: non discovered
service: passionate, mostly PSE
other:
location: FKK-Palace
For knowing now, that the cinema wasn´t the safest place at Palace, I joined Anjelica again, who wanted to finish work for today, have a meal and go to the sauna afterwards. I gladly joined her for the sauna and had a nice small-talk with Anjelica, before I had to dress and drive towards my office.
Although I´m more familiar with World and it´s staff, I enjoyed the night at the Palace - with Barbie-Diana, Dilara, Sarah and some interesting new women, the club is a nice place even on sundays.
Novize
Went to Palace on Friday afternoon/night. I got there around 4:00 and the parking lot was packed. I thought that was strange, and expected to see loads and loads of guys inside. While there weren't as many as I feared, it was pretty packed. Guess I should have expected that, as this was my first weekend visit.
I planned on waiting around for my standard hour of relaxing and eying the talent, but Kristianna from Romania grabbed me. Tall, long dark hair with great natural DD breasts, she is a great looking girl. She and I have had some great sessions so after only a little bit of prodding, we went back to the room. She said she hadn't worked in two days, and hadn't had a session since she'd arrived that day, so in her words, she was "hot!" Boy was she ever. She's always on my "to do" list.
After waiting around for dinner at 6 and then relaxing again, I finally picked someone new for my second session. Victoria, from Russia, was the chosen one. She has brown hair with very blonde streaks in it. Another distinguishing thing about her was her "landing strip" of pubic hair, which stuck out with all the other shaved girls around. Once we got back to the room, she was very nice, with lots of DFK. The session was good and she genuinely seemed to enjoy herself. However, then everything went horrible. She asked if I wanted a massage, and not one to turn it down, I accepted. While giving me the massage, she was text messaging someone on her cell phone! I couldn't believe it! After such a great session, I was thinking about tipping her, but she blew that one.
Guys, I recommend Kristianna, who is busy a lot of the time anyway. But avoid Victoria (or Vicky) at all costs.
[QUOTE=Valmont]... but Kristianna from Romania grabbed me. Tall, long dark hair with great natural DD breasts, she is a great looking girl. [/QUOTE]
Chriss oder Christina is the name. Just in case somebody is looking for her. Very friendly and likeable, great performance, as I heard ... ;-)
Hessen Bub
[QUOTE=Member #2974]Jenny is not the youngest woman at Palace, she has a big scar on her stomach (Caesarian?), her breasts are not perfect, but she showed great attitude and passion. I took her a tergo. looking at her nice buns and didn´t need very ong to finish.
The stats:
name: Jenny/Jennifer [/QUOTE]
She is - as Kathi, Maria, Lisa, Laura - a former Atlantis-girl, her performance is outstanding, she has been in the FKK-business quite a few years by now.
Same for Anjelica, but for both this is a compliment, not a turn-off.
Hessen Bub
Booked a last minute flight and hotel on Friday 11th March for a business meeting in Frankfurt, normal hotels that I use were fully booked due to a trade fair and hence ended up in the Steingenberger Airport Hotel at €259 per night. Hotel is close to airport, a shuttle bus takes you there from just outside terminal one. Took a taxi at 7pm at a cost of €25. I was concerned that Palace would be extremely busy due to the fair, however this was certainly not the case.
Chilled for about an hour, watching the girls and the talent pass by. Linda from Czech Rep approached, some idle chit chat and she then started stroking me. She has an enormous pair of tits, but did not rock my boat. Sat down near the swinging sofa and Carolina kept looking over smiling, beckoned her over. She is from Poland and spoke very basic english. We made out for a little while and then went to a room. First thing she asked was 1 hour ? to which I responded "no, 30 minutes". Very good service from her, plenty of DFK and BBBJ with lots of eye contact. For the main event it started and finished with doggy, again with plenty of eye contact during the fucking. I really enjoyed her service and certaqinly recommend her.
After the shower, relaxed a while and waited for the buffet at 10pm. I've only been to Palace once before and last time had eaten before, so did not sample the buffet. However this time, I was hungry as missed lunch and joined the grwing queue for the buffet. About 15 girls were already lined up and waiting and when the food arrived, they piled it on their plates. Its amazing how much they put away !
Watched the dancers, who are absolutely gorgeous. One blonde and I think one is a brazillian...must be judging by her arse, which is a perfect bubble butt. Had a few approaches, a couple of Thai girls, German Sylvana (sp ?), Russian Sarah, but not to my fancy. Sarah and another girl were doing good business, there were doing threesomes and I saw them taking a lucky guys to the rooms several times.
Gabriella from Austria sat by me and she speaks excellent English. Again, made out a little just to get to know her. She even said she provides an excellent service and will give me a very good blow job and "suck my eggs". Off to the room and she does indeed provide an excellent service, plently of eye contact during the BBBJ with lots of ball sucking and DKF. This time it was cowgirl all the way and she certainly puts her back into it. We then chatted, where I learnt that all the girls have to also pay the €65 entrance fee, but whatever they make from the customers is all theirs to keep. So another good session for me and a good recommendation for Gabriella.
Back out there next month, maybe will try a mid week visit to see if its much different from a monday night.
I am a dummy when it comes to directions. So, here is my detailed version of directions for dummies on public transportation from Hauptbahnhof (the main train station downtown) to Palace.
Take the U4 line bound for Bockenheimer Warte. Ride through one stop--Festhalle/Messe--and get off at the Bockenheimer Warte stop.
If you accidentally go in the wrong direction on the U4, don't despair. You can ride through two stops--Willy-Brandt-Platz and Dom/Romer--and get off at the Konstablerwache stop. It's just out of the way.
Either way, follow the signs to transfer to either the U6 or U7 line. (They follow the same route for as far as you need to go.) Take either the U6 line bound for Praunheim/Heerstrasse or the U7 line bound for Hausen. Ride through these stops--Leipziger Strasse and Kirchplatz--and get off at the Industriehof/Neue Borse stop.
Walk to the front of the train, descend the platform, turn left, and cross the tracks at the crosswalk. Continue in the crosswalk to cross the street. You will be facing a brown stone wall with graffiti on it. Turn right, keeping the wall on your left, and walk a short distance until there's a gap in the wall. Turn left, walk through the gap, and keep walking for a block. Cross one more street and, after a short distance, you will see a Palace sign on the building on your left. Walk around the back side of that building, through the parking lot, and you will see the entrance on your left. Walk up, and the desk attendant will buzz you in the through the gate.
Pay your 65E and have fun. Reverse the directions to get back.
Here are quick summaries of the five girls I had sessions with.
Vanessa was tall and tan, with long brown hair, from Poland, wearing shoes that laced up around her legs. Her body was excellent, her face a bit less so. She was much too eager to end the BBBJ and begin the CFS, but I went along with it rather than complain, and it was okay. She was the most enthusiastic kisser of the bunch. Her English was limited.
Jessi was a bleach-blonde from Romania who has quite the prominent natural rack for such a small girl. Her face reminds me of Nicole Richie--the nose and eyes particularly--but others may not see the resemblance. During dull times, she likes to dance on the pole or sprawl in lewd positions on the couch. She didn't rush the BBBJ, but my complaint about it is that she repeatedly wiped the pre-cum off of the head of my penis so it didn't get in her mouth. She made moaning noises that I took to be fake throughout the session, except when I did DATY, which silenced her. Her English was limited.
Laura was also from Romania and had shortish auburn hair and a thin body. Her short haircut makes her look older than her 22 years. She cautioned me during the BBBJ that she doesn't allow CIM, even for the 50E extra, but that was fine with me. She was my third session of the day, and I appreciated her patience when it took me awhile to finish. I enjoyed my conversation with her the most; her English was quite good.
Natalie was my most GFE-ish experience. She is a small Czech girl with curly hair that begins blonde and is red at the ends. I appreciated her sense of humor and playfulness. She gave the best BJ of the bunch, even though I could occasionally feel her top teeth. After the BBBJ, she seemed to get into my DATY and was quite lubed up for the CFS. She started the session as a closed-mouth kisser and ended it as an open-mouthed kisser. Her English was above-average, and she'd describe or pantomime the words she didn't know.
Monica is petite, tan, from Poland, has shoulder-length brown hair with blonde streaks, and favors wearing a red mesh shawl/scarf over her shoulders. Like her countrywoman Vanessa, she was too eager to end the BBBJ and begin the CFS. At one point, I asked her to take her shoes off, and she declined. I don't know whether this is a quirk of hers or reflected our language barrier. Her English was limited.
[QUOTE=Alex P Keaton]
Vanessa was tall and tan, with long brown hair, from Poland, wearing shoes that laced up around her legs.[/QUOTE]
Just slow her down, then sessions with her can be very joyfull. Excellent blow-job and CIM.
[QUOTE=Alex P Keaton]
Jessi was a bleach-blonde from Romania who has quite the prominent natural rack for such a small girl.[/QUOTE]
Very rushy session, not to be booked again. Should take up her work in the "Bahnhofsviertel" in Frankfurt.
[QUOTE=Alex P Keaton]
Natalie was my most GFE-ish experience. She is a small Czech girl with curly hair that begins blonde and is red at the ends.[/QUOTE]
See pictures. Great girl, great BJ, great humor.
[url]http://www.starlight-ladies.de/ladies_pic.php?url=/pics/3/pic6l.jpg[/url]
[QUOTE=Alex P Keaton]
Monica is petite, tan, from Poland, has shoulder-length brown hair with blonde streaks, and favors wearing a red mesh shawl/scarf over her shoulders. [/QUOTE]
Was she carrying a "Mrs. Timberlake" bag? If yes I know her, was more of an average session.
Hessen Bub
[QUOTE=Hessen Bub]Was she carrying a "Mrs. Timberlake" bag? If yes I know her, was more of an average session.[/QUOTE]Yep, that's the Monica I was with.
My last stop in a round the world business trip will be in Frankurt on March 25. I was wondering if the Palace will be open due to the fact it will be Good Friday.
I would like to meet with fellows members if any are planning some time at the Palace on the March 25.
Well my first visit to Palace, and a FKK club, was a truely enjoyable experience - even after 30 hours of flying to get there! Directions in this forum were great and the tips and experiences very useful.
Enjoyed some time with Mika from Germany - she found me in the Kino and wanted to play. Immediately she struck me as being quite beautiful and, despite seeing later that her face may have been a little messed up with acne, I'm happy with that memory - she was tall, slender and well proportioned. She let me have some fun with her perfect breasts (which she genuinely seemed to enjoy) and DFK before we moved to a room for some 69 and DATY. A couple of positions later at it was time for a cigarette (for her) - and no rush to leave which seemed a pretty good attitude.
Later came Kat (Kathe?) from the Dominican Republic. A slow night for her despite being a very attractive girl - chocolate coloured skin, dark hair in ringlets, small overall but very nice. Spoke a little English - knew all the "business" phrases off pat but anything else was on shaky ground. Great DFK before moving to a room - seemed to genuinely enjoy having her nipples sucked before a long session of DATY until she came ... no doubt about that ... sweet, lingering taste. Had a great cowboy technique.
Both girls may not be PSE, but they were great company and lovely to be with - definitely GFE. Overall, I thought the standard of girls at Palace was pretty good except for one who seemed a little old to be there. Something for everyone.
BB,
Palace will be open on Good Friday (as every other club), but you should be aware that at least some girls will be on vacation. You should find some nice girls at Palace anyway...
Have fun,
Novize
[QUOTE=Pulse]Enjoyed some time with Mika from Germany - she found me in the Kino and wanted to play. [/QUOTE]
The name is Maike. See picture.
[url]http://www.the-palace.de/girl_pic.php?id=250[/url]
[QUOTE=Pulse]Later came Kat (Kathe?) from the Dominican Republic. [/QUOTE]
The name is Kathi/Kati, Ex-ATL-Girl. A blue chip, always very good performance, one of my favourites.
Hessen Bub
Thanks Novize,
It's been over a year since I have been to an FKK. I used to spend my time at Oase but want to try Palace due to its location. I am really looking forward to some decompressing time after a long trip as well as prepare myself for "sex prison" in the great white north.
I am not am very good at putting words to paper but if any of you want some info on South America, SE Asia or Russia I will be glad to help out.
BB
I am in the Giessen area this weeken and may visit World (where Cordelia is),Oase, and Palace.
I was wondering what the women to men ratio tends to be at Palace? and how many girls are there (I realise it changes from day to day but some idea would be good). Are the girls there busier than at FKKW and Oase?
Thanks. Shiatsu
Shiatsu,
These are difficult questions to answer accurately and definitively. One wonders whether any answer would be really useful, since, as you yourself well know, things can change suddenly from day to day, week to week, club to club. And of course, external forces, like Messe events in Frankfurt, can greatly influence the number of girls and men visiting the club during a given week. So one must factor in a number of variables. Is there a Messe event in town during the day(s) you want to visit Palace?
At Palace, much depends on which day of the week you visit and also on which time of day you are in the club. I can tell you this from observations about Palace I made during consecutive visits in January and early March '05:
-- I consistently found the girl selection (in terms of number of 8s and 9s and the depth/ethnic diversity of the girl line-up) at Palace superior to World each time I visited. (I rated Oase as a close second). Although there are some Romanians working at Palace, for somebody coming from World, it is nice to find that Romanians are not the dominant ethnic group represented.
-- I found that the best conditions at the club for M/F ratio occurred on days other than Sat! That's right, I would actually suggest to avoid Saturdays at Palace. There are lots of girls there, but way too many men. (Same with Oase, unless you go late afternoon/early evening and leave by 21.00!). At Palace I like Tues (they have a prize wheel), Weds, Thurs and Fridays.
-- Best time to be there for best and most numerous girl selection: 19.00-23.30.
Lastly, you ask if the girls at Palace are busier than at World or Oase. Well, some are, yes, certainly busier. Others are not...
Others may add their views. Some may agree with me, others may not...
Ortos
Hello All,
I promise to post a report of my weekend activities soon. Until then I just wanted to let those concerned know that Laura from Kazakhstan (form. Atl) was at the Palace on Monday. She was a blonde but has now dyed her hair red. She is also a bit thinner around the waist. This woman is looking fine, boys!!!
She told me that she will be going back and forth between Palace and ColA in Augsburg.
I had a super session with her. She has not lost a step. Her new name is Vivian.
Cheers,
Dedalus
hi shiatsu,
i don't have the depth of experience at palace that st ortos does, having been there only four times, but i would pretty much second orto's ideas about best time to go to palace. i have never found palace particularly rich in what i would consider a 9, (think [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s like anka or magda, preferably with c cups like olga or little romanian andrea, or sammi at phg) but i have never failed to have at least one memorable positive experience on each visit to palace. out of say an avergage crowd of 50 girls, i would rate maybe three to five as an 8 or above on any given night. there are many more pornoed out babes there, plain chunky ruskies, and hispanic babes here, and the latter can be some of the wildest lays, but are also more likely to have stretch marks and a c-section scar. marina is a perfect goddess sex machine, grosse diana is also drop dead gorgeous in a cold plastic sort of way. actually, palace is a good place if you want to just sit and get molested to have sex all evening by all kind of women. the kino is a trip in itself. get ready to wrestle in there. i still like the lineup and layout and hospitality at world better. i predict (and hope) that with the advent of warmer weather, palace will slow down and world will get busier.
have a great time
beffen
Hi Shiatsu,
For me, I find Palace best in late afternoon/early night (perhaps 16:00 until 21:00). The worst time is after midnight when a lot of the girls have left, but due to the location of Palace, there is quite a number of new arrivals in terms of men at that time.
Last time I was at Palace (February), I left around 21:00 and at that time the place was starting to fill up by men and rooms were getting hard to find. I came back that same night around 02:00 for a nightcap and ended up with a lousy lineup and a session in the Kino when I really wanted to have a room.
I have visited Palace few times on Fridays and Saturdays and once I visited on a Sunday. Funny enough, the Sunday visit was the best in terms of the male/female ratio, not that many girls, but very few men.
I have never visited Palace at messe time, I try to avoid FRA during messe time due to hotel prices. What is your view of messe time vs. non messe time Ortos? does the additional number of girls offset the additional number of clients?
Chivaz
Im goin there next Monday, and i cant wait. I havent had sex in 5 weeks now and Ill stop Wanking on Saturday in order to maximize my load !
My married friends are soo jealous, infact one of them hasnt had sex in 2 years ! Think about that for a minute. Hes too turned off by his wife.
Chivas, I assume messe is meal time ? and what is FRA?
F
Chivas,
I am a total idiot, but i have figured it out thanks.
messe = holiday or easter
FRA = Frankfurt airport
I arrived in Frankfurt from Turkey @21:30 and was going to wait until Friday before I indulged myself. Got to my Hotel and and thought WTF, no point in sitting in another hotel room, I'll go check out the Palace and if nothing is to my satisfaction I lose the entrance fee, but at least will get to observe some eye Candy for a couple of hours. I can think of worse ways to spend time and money.
Arrive at the Palace @ 23:00, not too crowded and is a fair number of girls. Sat down, had a drink and was propostioned by a number of girls right away. Gave them the old song and dance about wanting to look around for awhile but still get a fews hands grabbing at Willie just to make sure I was serious.
I finally made eye contact with a really attractive latino girl. She comes over and it turns out she is Brazilian. I have spent alot of time in the Thermas in Rio and have a thing for Brazilian girls. We talked for a few minutes and I thought if I don't grab this girl right now somebody else might, so off to the room we go.
In the room we start with lots of fondling and LFK. Next thing I know its BBBJ that turnes into a 69. From there it was mutiple postions to completion. Lied there and cuddled for a while until she decided it was time for round two. She said she hadn't come yet and of course being the gentleman that I am I thought it only fair for me to try to rectify the problem. After along day in planes I didn't think I had it in me but boy did she prove me wrong. Bottom line; we both got what we wanted.
Her name is Marcela and lives in Munch but works at the Palace sometimes. She is heading back to Munich in the morning for a couple of weeks and then will be back.
Spent a hour with her, 100€, was worth every penny, a combination GFE PSE
(round 1 GFE, found two PSE)
Looks: 9
Attitude: 8
Service 8
BB
Hi Fred,
Sorry about my "bad" language habits, but messe is German for conference (which Frankfurt has quite a lot of) and I use FRA as a short for Frankfurt, not just the airport.
Chivaz
Fred,
Think of Messe as a convention.
Thanks for all the comments. I plan to have a look this weekend (after Oase and FKKW)
My question was prompted by Cordelia telling me that there had been on Tuesday a huge import of new girls at FKKW - she said there must have been around 80 girls!! (she lost count) (guess where all the new girls had been imported from....) About 5 girls for every man. So I'll try Palace for variation, Off to catch my flight now so I'll be offline for a few days (can't fit in 3 FKKs and internet cafes every day!)
the question came up below about how palace compares during messe and non-messe times.
first, i'm glad we've all straightened out what messe is: trade fair. so messe events attract alot of male guests to the town of frankfurt, just like the cliche conventions do in a place like las vegas. that means in messe zeit the gilr line-ups at the clubs swell with sudden arrivals of "free-lance" providers who might come down from koln, d-dorf, dortmund, berlin, etc.
think like one of the out of town girls, say from berlin: if you needed to make cash quick, as much as possible as fast as possible, by working in an fkk club, wouldn't you select messe weeks instead of non-messe weeks to make the trip down to frankfurt?
so during messe events lots of girls are available in addition to the normal day-to-day girl line-ups that rotate during the week. i enjoyed spectacular selection possibilities at palace just this past late jan, when there were a series of large messe events back-to-back. the palace kino was a truly great place to hang out. there were a number of very young, very good looking, german girls from northern sources who showed up during those messe days. they were very hot looking, but i can't speak for the performance/attitude of all these girls. doubtless had beffen visited during one of these winter messe events, he would have found many more 9s more "[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]-types" than he has previously encountered at palace. i have a vivid impression of palace during the last messes: it so very much reminded me of the vibe at the old atlantis. that raw, in-your-face parade of erotic women. it was great!
but messe times can be a mixed blessing. sometimes the room waiting is more of a problem than otherwise. the trick here is to go late afternoon or by 19.00 and get well settled in before the wave of messe men arrive. also hotel rooms in/round frankfurt are impossibly expensive. but if you want sheer numbers of 8s and 9s, then messe is the time.
well that is my experience, others may see it differently...
ortos
Part One: Public Sex in the Palace on Friday
Messe time in Frankfurt is a mixed blessing for FKK goers. Usually the line-ups are pretty strong and if you dig gawking at horny conventioneers copulating with shapely- adorables in the Kino and other areas of a Sauna club, then you will be in for a treat. The big downside is that you really have to be aggressive to snag the top acts and you can develop grey hair while waiting for a room.
Last Friday was a major traffic jam at the Palace. I think that I have never seen so many Italians outside of Sicily. (I would eventually see even more the next night at Oase.) Apparently the entire male population of Italy was in town for the Bad und Heizung Messe, and these Romeos were ready for Amore MOLTISSIMO. No inhibitions with these guys!
Arrived at the Palace gates at around 6:45. (BTW, there is a new Bakery and Steh Café on the same block for those who arrive early enough and care to fortify themselves with some good German breadstuffs.) It was easy to see that this was going to be a busy night. Just maneuvering to the locker area was a task. I had high hopes for a good evening though, since in less than a minute I spotted , Janni, Marcella, Cindy, Dilara and Daniella. Good tidings! No sign of Marina. It was early for her but the rumors about her having relocated to Sylt in Nürnberg for the moment seem to be true, so I really did not expect to run into her that evening. No matter, for there were plenty of dandies to keep me busy.
After scanning the place for 45 minutes or so I met up with ELENA. So many girls are named Elena that it can be a bit confusing.
name: Elena
hair: Brown, shoulder length, usually tied up
size: ~ 1,55 m
figure: slender, C/D-breasts (enhanced)
origin: Spanish
born: ~ 1982 ?
tattoos/piercing: None
service: bbbj, DFK GFE
location: Palace, says that she work at Oase for a few years
I had seen her earlier and thought that she possessed a certain amount of physical talent. We talked for a while and then headed off to try and find a room. We got lucky and did not have to wait so long. She is a good experience. She is perfect for those who like tiny girls with large boobs. Not a wild Spanish temperament type but more sweet and tender. Not a bad change of pace. Definitely worth a repeat visit.
The food buffet from several weeks ago had me a little leery of what they were offering so I gave to food a pass. By now (8:15-8:30) this place was really pushing its maximum capacity. The wait-time for rooms was anywhere from 30-45 minutes and many were headed to the movies in hopes of avoided the Zimmerschlange. Cindy disappeared with some gent shortly after I arrived and was still occupied. When I asked her later how her evening was going she told me that she already had a few more guys who were waiting to book her for 2-3 hours sessions each. I saw Janni disappear with a guy and then she was gone for the night. As soon as Daniella went to the lockers with some gent to get her money, some guy would scoop her up right afterward. Her friend Christina was also doing a brisk trade working the Kino. I did see Katharina (Blond, Russian) with a bit of time on her hand. I wonder if her “extras” reputation is catching up with her. Clearly, this would be a night in which patience would be needed. It would also be a night to choose carefully. On busy nights like this many girls, even the good ones, can tend to adopt a “churn um and burn um” attitude.
It was a great night to hang out in the Kino and check out the “Sex in der Offenung Szene”. There is a girl who gave a super performance with some dude. I have seen this girl often and she is a former Atlantis girl. I was told her name a while ago but have since forgotten it. She is 1,68 M tall, thin, great legs, B size breasts, dyed red hair, a bit older and an ok if not spectacular face. She seems to have a fun and likable personality. I have always turned her away but she never fails to give me a smile when I see her. (Novize, do you know the name of this one?) Anyway, her performance was spectacular! CHRISTINA, who I have always thought was ok but not spectacular, also was really getting into being watched. She was sitting on some guy’s face at one point and making noises that were quite arousing. I made a decision then and there to sample that little Romanian again, this time in full view of the other Kino people.
I am not a public sex guy. It has never really been my thing, yet I have been know to use the Kinos at Oase and Palace as a place to satisfy my carnal desires. The Oase Kino give the illusion of being somewhat more private. Not so in the Palace Kino. As Christina and I set up shop on the top mat, there were at least 4 other couples and one trio humping away like bunnies. Almost an orgy atmosphere. On top of that there were another 6 or so men and women relaxing and watching. Christina is a moaner which was pretty cool. As we were 69ing she made intermittent cries and squeals. At one point she started riding my tongue and shrieking so loudly that many began to notice us and make comment. We drew a number of Italians voyeurs and armchair quarterbacks, making commentary and shouting encouragement. After finishing with a flourishing doggie, both of us received compliments from several bystanders. Christina was pleased. She was assured of being busy for the rest of the night. While I might think twice about booking her for a room session, public sex with her is a big treat!
I figured that this would be enough for one evening and that saving energy for the next evening would be wise. However as I was heading for the locker room I got a good look at MARCELLA. Suddenly it seemed like a good idea to find a place to relax and bide my time until she would be free again. I have heard many good things about this Brazilian beauty and have often wanted to sample this little bit of Sao Palo, but it has never seemed to work out. She is pretty popular and I was worried that grabbing her on this night would be particularly difficult. But I was determined. That hinder of her’s is an amazing site! About 2 hours later I caught her on her way to the bar and asked her if she would like to go someplace more private and talk for awhile. She was willing and after about a 20 minute wait, and a lot o’ heavy petting we finally made our way to a room. Marcella is a very different temperament than Elena. She is a crazy combination of wild PSE and, at times tender GFE. Her BBBJ is fabulous and her I had some of the best doggie-style with her that I can remember. This is one that I highly recommend!
name: Marcella
hair: Dark, long
size: ~ 1,55 m
figure: slender, C/D-breast What an ass!!!!
origin: Brazilian
born: ~ 1983?
tattoos/piercing: ?
service: Super. great bbbj, DFK,
location: Palace
All in all a good night, despite the long room-waits and that hogging of Cindy, Daniella, and Janni. I sometimes wonder if on nights like last Friday if the management should forbid sessions longer than one hour. If anything it would make room turnover move a bit faster. Just a thought…
Cheers,
Dedalus
The biggest downside of a Messe is finding a room or a reasonably priced room.
You can generally avoid the crowds at Palace if you arrive before the peak times. (before 6:00). It is generally busiest between 7-10. At peak time it will be hard to find a room although Palace has a remarkable number of rooms for a club its size.
In general, I find that the selection is greater but this is not necessarily so. If there is only one or two popular girl, you can rule her out as she will be taken for the night and service will be less than usual because she knows she is in demand and if you arrive late she will be tired.
It is not the male to female ratio that counts but the quality of the lineup. I find that more girls are willing to stay if there are customers. So, when business is slow the best performers will leave early because they will have made their personal quota and there is no reason to stay around. Also at slow times girls will arrive late leaving the club very empty.
IMO it is best to come on days beside friday and saturday of Messe. If you come during a messe, come early.
Hi Dedalus,
Very good description of messe time activity. I have not been at Palace at messe time, and based on this I think I will continue to plan my trips on non-messe time as I hate the room shortage thing and the hectic "must grab girl before someone else does" atmosphere.
quote: "She is 1,68 M tall, thin, great legs, B size breasts, dyed red hair, a bit older and an ok if not spectacular face. She seems to have a fun and likable personality. I have always turned her away but she never fails to give me a smile when I see her"
The description fits Angelique (the face part might be debateable though), but I think you would know her so maybe not.
If it is her, then I also turned her away couple of times, but at the time did not know who she was, but after I had a session with her last summer, I always look for her at Palace, but unfortunately our paths have not crossed since then.
Chivaz
[QUOTE=Dedalus]She is a crazy combination of wild PSE and, at times tender GFE. Her BBBJ is fabulous and her I had some of the best doggie-style with her that I can remember. This is one that I highly recommend![/QUOTE]
She is great when stoned, and a turn-off when sober. So better don't do her before 22.00.
Hessen Bub
Chivaz,
It is not Angelique. I want to say that this girl is German or has at least lived in Germany for a long time, for her german is great and to me sounds Akzent frei.
She is pretty talkative, always smiling, and is often hanging out on the curved bench below the Harley. The hair could be brown (it is always hard to tell in the dimly lit Palace) but I think that it is dark red.
Bub,
I did indeed get the impression that that Marcella was either a bit high on booze or fortified by some mind-altering chemical, or both. In any case, I had a good time;-)
Cheers,
Dedalus
Hi Ded,
Here is a wild guess:
There is this girl that used to work at Atlantis and now works at Palace. She claims (at least when at Atlantis) to be from Palermo, Sicily. She has a rather long brownish/red hair, the height fits. The face description is debateble although we can of course have different taste. She has a tattoo of rose (or was it devil...don't remember) on her right but cheek. I remember her speaking good German (at least much better than mine).
Had a session with her at Atlantis spring 2003. Session was ok until I came doing doggy and she got startled. Turns out the condom had broken and neither of us noticed until she felt the cum. She offers Anal. Sure was glad at the time I declined that offer. I have spoken to her a few times since then and always have a good time talking to her, but never went again. Tell her that she and I equals bad luck :-)
Friend had a session with her at Atlantis and gave her good marks for being fun in the room.
There is a picture of her on the "Girls" session on Palace web site under the name "Biene".
Sorry for cluttering up the board with something that might not be beneficial to anyone.
Chivaz
Chivaz,
Volltreffer!!!! Thats her. Good call!
Thanks,
Dedalus
Biene is her name, I guess. Have a look at the picture. She looks better than you might think when seeing the pictures.
[url]http://www.the-palace.de/pics/girls/227/l.jpg[/url]
[url]http://www.the-palace.de/pics/girls/228/l.jpg[/url]
Hessen Bub
I know this girl too! Not from sessions, but first from Atlantis, where she would often solicit me for sessioning with her (I always passed) and at Atlantis, where she just smiles at me now, and does not pursue the chase. I could have sworn her name at Atlantis was "Gina." She claimed to be from Italy, I believe Sicily, but she speaks German like a native and probably has the native German mind-set as well.
I saw her working Palace almost every day I visited three weeks ago. I think she is now a lot thinner than she appears in the photos posted just below, but I swear that is the girl. The red-dyed hair is fairly new. She used to have dark brown hair at Atlantis.
Went to Palace on a Monday - which is supposed to be a very slow day. Not very slow in my opinion, as there were about 10-15 women vs. 20-25 men.
Most of the ladies were very good looking. I picked Linda, 25 years old, from the Seychelles (most likely Brazil - but who cares?). Rating her looks to be 7 (face 8, body 6)
A very GFE experience - not rushed at all - good sex with CIM as finishing. Paid 100€ - worth every € !
This was my first time to Palace - I was not disappointed - I will certainly come back ASAP !
I have always thought that FKK Mondays were a pretty good deal. Although the line ups are often a little depleted, there are fewer customers than usual and in the big Frankfurt clubs there are often enough top-acts present to make a visit very worthwhile. Usually the atmosphere is a little more relaxed than on a weekend or even a late week visit. I am also fond of Thursdays since the line ups are even better.
As fate would have it, I had a choice of spending the evening at a sauna club last Monday night before taking an early flight, or crashing at a Hotel. Now, I ask you: How many hotels can offer what the Palace offers for 65 Euros? Yes, one has to “check out” pretty early, but that would have been the case for me anyway. The choice was pretty clear to me.
Arrived at the Palace 9:30. It looked like a typical Monday. There were indeed a number of guests, however nothing compared to the previous weekend’s wild Messe chaos. A number of fine ladies were present: Both Dianas, Dilara, Shasha, Jessy, Angelique, etc. Not an All-Pro line up but still a pretty good team. Both Dianas are looking pretty good! I was very close to booking the smaller of the two. I know that her reputation is not great, but I have had a few good sessions with her in the past and she is also looking really fine; much better now than back then. At the very least it could be a good “Optikfick”. Sasha from the Ukraine is also one who looks very intriguing. I wanted to book her on Friday, but she was “stehts besetzt”. I thought that this might be a good night to try out this Ukrainian nightingale. As I was lounged out on the smaller swing sofa, both Sasha and her blonde friend walked by and caught my eye. Instead of Sasha coming over her friend ELENA (another one) came over and introduced herself. Even though I was initially interested in her friend, something about Elena was very captivating. She is a cute blonde who reminds me a little of Renee Zellweger. She is also from the Ukraine and sports a lotus tattoo around her navel. I thought that she would be a good start to the evening.
In the room she gave a solid performance. Good BBBj and committing 69 with that fine body of hers was a major turn on. We explored three different positions; cowgirl, doggie and missionary which with her long sexy legs was a real delight. She did not kiss but that was ok with me.
There are better performers at Palace but Elena holds her own pretty well. I would take her up on a repeat session, maybe for a double pack session with Sasha
name: Elena
hair: Blond
size: ~ 1,65 m
figure: slender, b-breasts Good legs
origin: Ukraine
born: ~ 1984 ?
tattoos/piercing: Lotus Tattoo around her navel
service: bbbj, GFE
other: often wears a light blue wrap around her waist
location: Palace
Later at the bar I ran into to ANGELIQUE. It has been several months since I have had a session with her. Not sure why really, other than just not feeling the right “click” with her. Also usually when I am at the Palace, then Marina is my number one priority. Angelique has observed this and a few time in the past has berated me for only liking blondes now. Monday she started in on me again. Usually it is a playful chiding and on this night it started out so as well. I decided that renewing my relationship with this Siberian tigress might be fun. She has always been a treat to be with, even if she does like to push an hour session on me.
Before we went off to find a room we chatted a bit at the bar. I got the distinct impression that she was a little high on something. As she got closer I could smell the Sekt. This would be interesting. In the room she started talking again and being a little careless with her cigarette. I still have the light burn mark on my leg. That’s ok, for accidents can happen. We eventually got down to business and it was a typical Angelique session, despite her inebriation. We finished with about 5 min. left and she told me that we would to an hour session. She did not ask, but told me. I smiled and gently turn her down; telling her that the night was still young, and we might see each other again later. She said Ok and she went for the cigarettes and started talking again. I started to don my towel and tried to ease her to the door but she was determined to keep on talking and to finish her smoke. When she finished she got up and said ‘ich muss aufs toilette” and disappeared for and 3-4 minutes. By now we were about 40 minutes in the room and I was getting a bad feeling. She came back and before she had a chance to light up again or start talking again I asked her “Sollen wir jetzt gehen?” and we headed off to the lockers. I really was quite surprised when, before I even put the key in the lock to retrieve my wallet she announced that ‘ich kreige hundred von dir”. I gave her 50 but she was pretty insistent, and said that we were in the room for 50 minutes and that she was getting 100 euros. I have known Angelique for quite some time now and felt pretty comfortable telling her that she surely knew that this was NOT right. Then she started to negotiate. ‘Dann gibt mir noch zwanzig”. I asked her if she really wanted to do this. She did not seem to want to back down even after I told her that this was going to have consequences. Again, she did not back down. I sighed and gave her the extra 20. She looked at me and asked if the 20 was really that important to me. I told her that I was disappointed in her and that there were other girls working there who I expected this from, but not her. She tried to make it up to me by buying me a pack a smokes but for me, the damage was done. Again, she wanted to know why 20 euros meant so much to me, and again I told her that it had nothing to do with the money but with the principle. She did not seem to understand and stormed off in a huff.
This was a tough one. This is Angelique. Everybody’s wonder-girl, Miss Roemerforum and everything. The lady working the bar near the entrance saw our confrontation and asked me if everything was ok. I said it was fine and not to worry about it. I think that she knew Angelique was a bit soused. Fazit: This was my last session with the Siberian tigress. What a shame…
As I was sitting at the front bar nursing a coffee and thinking that the night was a write-off, then I got a huge surprise. From around the corner walked a familiar face: LAURA (formerly ALT) from Kazakhstan. This beauty, often referred to as “the Ivory Princess” was quite a site! I always thought that she was a stunner during her Atlantis days, but now she looks even better. She has a trimmer waist than before and she has dyed her hair red. That wonderful ass is still an eye-grabber and those perky tits are to die for. I needed a short pause after the Angelique session, but I already knew who was going to save my evening.
After crashing for and hour on the large swing, I went off in search on the Ivory Princess. Luckily I did not have to search long and I caught her coming from the locker area. She has been out of the business for about a year or so and I was not sure that she would recognize me. Happily she did and after a bit of small talk, I whisked her off to a room. Gentleman, I know that everyone has different tastes but I can’t understand why anyone would not find this girl lovely. If you like natural breasts, great legs and a fine hour-glass figure, then this lady is for you. Her service is outstanding. Great BBBJ and 69 thrown in. As she sat on my face for the 69 she would often tit-fuck me which was OH SO GEIL!!!!
We performed the act in all the standard positions finishing with doggie. She moans so sexily during sex. Friends, this was the best session that I had over the long weekend and that is saying something.
name: Laura (Now Vivian)
hair: dark Red, shoulder length
size: ~ 1,60 m
figure: slender, C -breasts Hour-glass What an ass!
origin: Kazakhstan
born: ~ 1980 ?
tattoos/piercing: none?
service: bbbj, GFE, First-Class
location: Palace, (says that she will also be working at CoLA in Augsburg)
By this time it was nearly closing time and time for me to head toward my flight. I felt great and ready for a long rest on my flight. I am sure that I had a big smile on my face while snoozing on the plane. Thanks to Laura/Vivian, what was shaping up to be a disappointing evening turned out to be a majestic one.
Cheers,
Dedalus
Dedalus,
Just wanted to thank you for a great set of informative, well-written, and entertaining posts from your recent trip.
[QUOTE=Musta Pekka]
Most of the ladies were very good looking. I picked Linda, 25 years old, from the Seychelles (most likely Brazil - but who cares?). [/QUOTE]Musta,
I agree with you about her great attitude and service, but Linda is not Brazilian. She has a pretty french accent and speaks french (actually creole). So we can probably believe her when she says she's from the Seychelles.
Wonderful girl, if you're nice to her you can really get her going. My 2nd time with her, she spent 10 minutes patiently instructing me on how correctly to administer DATY.
i had a similar expearance. I used to session with here every time and never had a bad expearace often spent 1 hour with her. then one day i was with a different girl and we spent a few hours together. then ANGELIQUE gave me some shit about blonds i took it in good fun. then she got agressive and pissy i just told her she lost a customer for life. (it will be hard to hold out on that as her sessions where always good but there are a lot of good providers) she did not liek that and walked off n a huff. Maybe it was a bad day. it was like more than a year ago if i ever make it ot palace maybe i will give her a try again. but i doubt it as a other fav of mine is working there i think.
Dedalus,
Thanks for another sterling report. And esp. for up-dating us on your incident with Angelique. Way back in 2002 (or was it 2001?), she was my second or third experience at Atlantis. I sessioned with her twice I think, then moved on to other girls. At that time she was younger and had not yet reached the star popularity at Atlantis that she later did; so she was less full of herself, perhaps less cocky and less confident. Anyway, when she would see me, she would try to talk me into sessioning with her, but with a wry smile we both knew it wouldn't happen so it was no big deal.
Now she still recognises me at Palace, but doesn't really try to talk to me anymore, but we still say hello to each other. Recently, I've seen her at Palace on an occassional basis, something akin to Marina's appearance, say, once or twice a week sometimes, then a week or two not there, then she might be there several days on the trot. She still has steady customers some days, and I've seen her in a room with a guy for several hours and I've seen her walking away from the pay lockers cluching two or three green 100E notes in her hand as she retreated to the women's locker area.
But your description of what happened last Monday brings to my mind some general thoughts:
During the first quarter of 2005, on my occassional visits to FKKs round Frankfurt, I have noticed a distinct and disturbing trend amongst many, but not all, girls: to try to round up session time to higher figures and generally try to suck money out of you at any cost. I have documented a few of the cases that I have directly experienced, starting with Czech Andrea at World, a few cases at Palace and at Oase. What is particularly disturbing is that this trend seems to be all pervasive and even affects girls with whom I have multi-sessioned with alot over the past year or so.
So what gives? My instincts tell me something rotten is afoot. I see signs of this attitude growing. It is occurring more frequenly and more widely than it used to. And it may prey on the less-experienced punters more than those of us know what is going on. Clearly, Dedalus, you knew exactly what Angelique was doing and you, just like me, stared wide-eyed as you watched an old "girlfriend" there, as it happened a legend, just spit in your face and say: "You know, I'd rather have the extra 20E than keep you as a repeat customer." I mean, basically that is what she is saying...When you see formerly top acts like Andrea at World and Angelique at Palace...and there are others as well... sink to these levels, one must really scratch the head and think a bit.
But here's something that might be a bit revealing: At least some of these girls are willing to bargain! So the technique you used with Angelique (to give her 20 instead of 50E) is a good compromise, esp. if you, as happened to me in a recent FKK situation, have written the girl off in your head as a dead cause, and don't want to go through the hassle and spotlights of taking the matter up to the reception desk. Last month, when a girl I had previously respected started to pull this, and I decided it was better to just cut my losses with this girl rather than get into some kind of confrontation, I said to her: "Look if you want 50E, let's go talk to the manager about it; but I'll give you an extra 20E just to end the discussion here..." The offered 20-note was snatched out of my extended fingers in a heartbeat. Case closed! But a shame, another great one gets scratched off the list for the future...
One further point: If this is happening on a widespread basis, and if some of the girls do talk to each other about specific male clients, it is good to stand up to one girl, so that she might report back to other girls in her clique: "Don't bother trying it with this guy, he's too sharp, he knows what is going on..." Or the opposite: "See that guy over there? He's an easy mark! I just sucked an extra 50E from him and he didn't even bat an eye-lash!"
So be aware of what is going on and act accordingly. The above comments are not restricted to Palace or any club in particular. They apply generally.
Ortos
I would like to know if this is th same Angelique that was there a few years ago before the new building.
I think it was about 4 years ago I met an Angelique there who had loads of curly brown hair and also a bone that stuck out of the small of her back. she also said that she came from siberia (I think). Anyway the session was really cold but she looked fantastic, probably one of the most beautiful women I've seen in such a club.
Then a couple of years ago I saw her again, I thought that it was the same woman but I wasn't sure, but with her looks it was worth the risk. Then from the start she was fantastic and did everything you could wish for and more.
But I recognised again the bone sticking out and so it was clear it was the same woman. I have since then had a couple more sessions with her and it was always fantastic. I hope it isn't the same woman that everybody is now complaining about.
The other strange thing which I noticed was she also disappeared for a couple of minutes just before every session, and this week I had Cecille for the second time, she does this as well. So where do they go and what do they do?
Any ideas?
Has anybody any feedback on Victoria the red head, she seemed to be having a lot of fun with a guy in the cinema, she also looks very nice.
Why bargain?
Imho the best way to deal with these situations is the following:
Don´t pay more than the common rate in the club. If a girl isn´t happy with that, offer to her in a friendly way to discuss the issue at the reception. Most probably the girl will be happy with the going rate then.
If not, make use of the receptionist´s moderation! Be friendly and calm during the discussion, but also insistent. Accept the fair judgement of the receptionist, who will most probably follow your good line of argument (if you feel treated unfair by the club-management, you should avoid the club and go somewhere else).
If you want, you can compromise now. Tell the girl friendly, that your dissent is solved now and that you both know how to handle things in the future and offer to share the losses.
Acting like this should assure that
- the club-management gets to know what happens in their club and
- they can react
before these things are published via internet. If necessary, they can organize a general briefing for all girls.
- You showed clearly that you are not easy to rip-off, but fair to the girl.
- You still have the chance to join the girl in the future – next time most probably without the need to discuss money issues afterwards.
Have fun,
Novize
Novize,
What you say is absolutely correct in a general sense: Bring the matter up to the reception; and often the girl will back down before you arrive at the management's door., esp. if she is genuinely trying to take advantage of you or rip you off.
However, I don't believe that these matters are always 100% black-and-white. I can think of a few scerarios and situations in which one might choose to just cut your losses and hand a girl a lesser amount, like 20E instead of 50E, rather than go to the managment. This is not necessarily bargaining: It is dealing with the "nuisance factor." It's like settling out of court, even though you are innocent, to avoid the nuisance.
Let's not forget that there are lots of scenarios out there and different people will tend to deal with a given situation in a different way. Some guys are shy, some don't possess the personality or lingusitic skills to march the girl up to the reception, others maybe are too stoned or just cannot be bothered or would rather pay a small amount than cause, what in their eyes is, a confrontation. In other cases, maybe some guys are not 100% certain about the exact time, but they just "feel" they are being taken advantage of. Whatever.
With you and me, maybe it's a matter of principle. But not every guest at an FKK would see it the way you and I do.
In the end, it is up to each individual to deal with these situations as he/she thinks is best. However, you advice is very correct: In most cases one should go to the reception desk, or at least threaten to do so. It depends on the situation and the individuals involved.
But the big question (for me) is whether of not there is a growing trend in the three FFM clubs to try to suck extra money out of guests. This again may go back to some sort of profiling by certain girls who would prey on men they perceive as foreigners (i.e. non-German) and/or men who they perceive as being new and inexperienced to the FKK scene. I myself feel it is not a simple coincidence that incidents of girls trying to over-charge are suddenly becoming more and more numerous. Am I the only one who has experienced this lately?
Ortos
I did my first visit to Palace and did not like it. Sorry for all those members who love Palace but I comment only on what I saw
I went on a Sunday midday after visiting Oase and before visiting World. The men to women ratio was about equal (in Oase it was 2 women to each man and in World 6 women to each man). there were 8 girls.
None of the girls seemed at all interested in approaching the men. Looks wise they were so so.
I went to a room with Anisa of german and lebanese descent. She was soso -she did not kiss and announced that she did not like men. The session was half hour and no great experience.
I saw the staff shout (and I mean really shout) horribly at a worker. And I also heard of a monger who had been cheated by a worker there. I really got the impression that the management did not treat the girls well and that the girsl did not value the customers
I was very disappointed given all the good reports of Palace. So I will never (it was that bad) go back and will stick to Oase and World (on which I will report as I get time)
Shiatsu
Actually I agree and normally I would be a hard-ass and bring the problem to the attention of the manager. There few a few things to take into consideration in this case:
I have known Angelique for many years and, with a few small exceptions, I have always had a good relationship with her.
It was clear that she had been drinking a fair amount of Sekt and I think that this probably affected her judgment. That fact that she was drunk, or at the very least “tipsy to the max” would have been a big factor in the manager’s decision had I been inclined to take it that far. I am not sure how that would have affected her status there, but I did not want to take any chance that she would be bounced.
Guys, like I said in my post, it was difficult for me to even share this experience. Angelique is a well-known FKK star and has deservedly been praised on all of the major forums. I have noticed changes in her attitude and I think it is fair for me to warn everyone to be on the lookout for certain signals with her. I am sure that she is still a great experience for some people and if any one wants to enjoy her, then you have my best wishes.
Cheers,
Dedalus
Shiatsu,
So sorry you had bad vibes at Palace. I know you will stick with your instincts and what you say may well be true. But, in all honesty, visiting Palace --or any club for that matter-- at mid-day on a Sunday is not a proper test. Wouldn't you agree. I feel confident, despite some of the negatives you cite, that you would have a much different opinion if you were to visit on the club after 20.00 on virtually any day. I am not trying to stick up for this club in particular, even though I like the (late afternoon-night) girl line up the best of any club at the moment. I am only pointing out that Palace at mid-day is a mere shadow of what it is nine or ten hours later.
I think every club has its strengths and weaknesses. For me, Palace's strength is really in the outstanding --sometimes even spectacular-- selection of girls that work there at nights. It's location in Frankfurt and easy accessability is also another strength in some people's mind. But clearly there are weakness. I've never encountered any negative aspects to the management there as you cite. But there are more than one person who work at the reception desk during the week, so maybe the Sunday manager is a real *****? Who knows...but if it were really so bad from the girls' point of view, why would so many girls choose this club over clubs like Oase? Is there really so much more business at Palace than at Oase? Maybe...
You say you will never try the place again. That is up to you to decide, and we all know what you mean. I would only restate that if you were to have visited during an evening session your impressions of the club would likely be quite different.
In the end, I like all the clubs in different ways and I feel blessed to have the choice between three great clubs within the FFM area.
Hi Shiatsu,
In the fall of 2003, I arrived once at Oase, met a real grumpy and bitchy woman in the reception, had the bar staff sneering at me, started a session in the Kino with a girl that turned out to be a total b**ch in the room, cut the session short, don't need that kind of sh*t, told myself I would never be back to that dump and drove to Atlantis where everything turned out great.
Well, I have been back many times and Oase is one of my favourites. Don't know what they were serving in the soda that night, but sure was a bad streak of luck for me.
My personal experience of the staff at Palace is that they have been the nicest one (at least to me). One of the women serving the upper bar can sometimes put you off a little, but she is usually quite nice.
Visiting a club with great expectations and receiving substandard service is however a real turn off and I understand where you are coming from, but I think you should not write it off totally.
Chivaz
I was at Palace on Sunday afternoon. As it was Easter and early in the afternoon I wasn't expecting much and got exactly that. Not long after arriving and as I was going into the cinema, a tall brunette aproached me and started talking to me. After I explained to her that I didn't speak German, she cut to the chase and asked me if I wanted to go to the room with her. I politely explained that I just got there and that I wanted to relax first and look around. She very abruptly said something in German and walked off. I heard a laugh from a guy who was sitting in the cinema. I felt like saying something to the girl, but figured that it was better forget the incident and give my money to someone more deserving once I was ready.
I later found out that she was German. It's quite possible that she was Shiatsu's Anisa.
Later I was relaxing on the large swinging couch and was joined by a girl from the Dom. Republic (can't remember her name). She was very polite and not at all pushy. I had spoken to her once before on a previous visit and I guess I was a little interested but was still in relaxation mode. We spoke for about 20 minutes.
After a little break from converstion, she asked if she could touch me. By this time I had decided that my DR girl was the most interesting prospect, so I told her yes. After about 10 minutes touching and kissing, she asked if she could kiss my cock. We both knew the answer would be yes so she proceded with the BBBJ. After 5 minutes, we decided to get a room.
I was still in relaxation mode, so I was happy just lie down and accept the energetic BBBJ. Eventually the BBBJ finished with my mandatory CIM. For the remainder of the 30 minute session, we just played around in the room. I think she will be worth a repeat visit.
After some R&R time and a good feed (the food at Palace is far better than Oase and World) I decided to head off to Oase or world.
This was my second visit to Palace. On my first visit there were many more providers and customers whilst not being over crowded. I enjoyed it then and overall I enjoyed my visit on this occasion too.
DD
Just back from my first visit to the Palace,
Spent 2 days there and it was FUCKING FANTASTIC. I was in heaven, did 5 women yesterday and 2 today, all excellent.
detailed report soon,
all the best
Fred
Ps. my foreskin is sooo sore !!
Shiatsu,
My first vist to Palace was on a Monday afternoon at 4 pm. And it really sucked. There were only about 8 girsl around, and only 2 of them I would have wanted sex with, even if I did NOT have to pay for it. I compared this lineup to Oase at the same time of any given Monday and almost gave up.
But then I figured that I was not ready to write off the entrace fee and just leave and not return. So I asked at the reception if I could leave and come back later. They said sure and gave me a stamp. I went to downtown FFM and had a nice dinner, returning at 10 pm. Then there were about 30 girls present then, several of them very good looking. I got three quality pops off and was happy.
I like the layout of the place; and the facilities (with the exception of the showers) are great. And since I am not a sun-bather, I do not miss the outdoors part that is not there. Palace feels a bit more intimate, even though FKKW is still my favorite.
Perhaps you may want to give the place another chance ...
cheers
wuro
[QUOTE=Euro100]Shiatsu,
...
Perhaps you may want to give the place another chance ...
...[/QUOTE]
Imho Shiatsu can wait at least until autumn 2005 with his decision.
The line-up at Palace wasn´t as great as in the weeks/months before. And as I have heard on monday, many girls plan to leave Palace and work at other clubs during the summer months.
So the cards will be reshuffled in October. And nobody knows which club will hold the best trumps in its hands, then.
Have fun,
Novize
"The line-up at Palace wasn´t as great as in the weeks/months before. And as I have heard on monday, many girls plan to leave Palace and work at other clubs during the summer months."
Good point. Palace does suffer somewhat in the summer and spring. I have heard rumors that there are plans to add a second floor with a sun-terrace or something similar to help the club atmosphere during the summer. I am curious if anyone else has heard this.
I have always liked the PHG line-up during the summer months.
Cheers,
Dedalus
[QUOTE=Dedalus]I have heard rumors that there are plans to add a second floor with a sun-terrace or something similar to help the club atmosphere during the summer. I am curious if anyone else has heard this.[/QUOTE]
I heard this rumor, too - for the first time in March 2004 (for the last time on monday). So far without any result. And thinking about the location in the middle of an industrial area I can´t believe that a terrace at Palace would reach the quality of a real garden. But of course I would like to be surprised positively.
"And thinking about the location in the middle of an industrial area I can´t believe that a terrace at Palace would reach the quality of a real garden."
Perhaps not a garden. Yet just imaginge a Sun-deck with two or three good sized whirlpools, a few cool-down pools, a bar, nice deck-chairs, Cindy and Marina walking by to occasionaly rub sun-screen on your back, a big screen TV with Premiere Sports showing a US Baseball game or in your case Novize the Indy 500...
Life could be sooo good.
Dedalus
is great to watch, too. (Best, when hot-dogs are served - by beautiful, naked, willing women :D)
Marina and Cindy are two great reasons to visit even the darkest hole - even in summer.
But I doubt that the statics of this former warehouse allow a sun-deck on its roof without any big, loud, dirty and very expensive rebuildings. And whereelse would they have enough space for the equipment you mentioned?
Novize,
Isn't that just like you. To burst my optimistic bubble with your sound logic.
Cheerio,
Dedalus
I´m sorry. I hope you´ll accept my apologies.
I´ll invite you to a Coke during the F1-race on sunday at World. ;)
Never give up dreaming, for dreams might come true,
Novize
Fair enough everybody - perhaps I was a bit hasty. I shall try it again at a busier time. However I will be in no hurry -World had a couple of days recently when it blossomed and became very close to the way Atlantis used to be. I shall report in detail over the next few days
Shiatsu
[QUOTE=Dedalus] I have heard rumors that there are plans to add a second floor with a sun-terrace or something similar to help the club atmosphere during the summer.
Hmm, anyone know if there are any rental apartments available in one of the buildings nearby, 3rd floor or higher? ;-}
Palace is the club in Hessen I like most - since the closing of Atlantis. Try again, on weekdays, from 1700.
Hessen Bub
Day One: Jet-Lag, FKKs and the Palace
For me personally, jet-lag and FKKs do not mix. In fact I think that God created misery
and jet-lag on the same day. I much prefer landing and taking the
day to re-acclimate my internal clock and then feeling right as rain for a sauna-club sex
tour on the following day. I was very close to following just such a prescription last Friday, however the prospect of seeing a number of my favorite FKK kittens at the Palace and meeting up with a fellow board member or two was too much to pass on. The word on the FKK street was that Vivian (Ex-Laura, Atl) was making CoLA in Augsburg her home-base and that Marina was still plying her trade at Sylt in Nürnburg. I was hoping that these reports would be false but, alas neither of these lovelies was in attendance on Friday. (As an aside for those who are interested, I have it on pretty good authority that Marina will be returning to Palace soon. When I know more, then I will certainly share the Intel with all the Marina-crazies. Being one myself I do feel your pain.)
Arrival time at the Palace was about 7:15 PM. Two positive signs hit me after I had trodden through the door, paid my fee, and grabbed my towel: One; The guy/gal ratio was certainly in favor of us three-legged guests. Two; Cindy was there in all of her glorious splendor. If I could land this lovely mermaid after so many failed attempts of late, then the evening would be a success.
Now catching Cindy on a weekend evening, or any other evening for that matter is no easy task. One basically has to park his butt at the little round table across from the buffet and wait till she collects her dough from the last satisfied customer. As she heads away to freshen up for her next victim, whom you hope and pray will be yourself, you have to hop to it and ask her if she has time for you next. More than likely she will smile at you and say that one or two guys are already ahead of you, that she is sorry and that she will look for you in a few hours. Ughhh!!! Then you have to keep track of her comings and goings and make it clear that you are waiting patiently when she finishes up with the lucky dogs who got there before you did. Of course you do not want to nag at her. She is a sweetheart and it would be the height of bad manners to but any more pressure on her than she is already has. However a polite smile and a kind word or even a laugh at her hectic pace will keep you in her thoughts. (Hopefully.) Now bear in mind that probably a dozen or so other guys are thinking the same thing that you are. You can easily spot the Cindy Fan-Club. They are packed around the front bar and have to wear drool-bags under their chins whenever this tall, polish goddess walks by to keep from drowning themselves and the others around them.
Those of you who read this and know Cindy can understand what I am describing. This takes commitment, especially on a busy night. In essence you have to accept that you will do no other sessions with the other girls until you have had your Cindy-session. It can mean sitting around for several hours. In the past I have been pretty lucky with her. I even remember mid-week nights when I was able to book her twice. I EVEN remember one strike-it-rich night when I was able to book, in this order, without waiting and at my leisure, Marina, Nicole (Tall knockout Latvian, babewatch type) AND Cindy(TWICE). I thought I had died and gone to heaven.
It became clear on Friday that despite the very positive guy/gal ratio that it was going to be another night that would require some serious persistence if I were to usher this delight to a room, for after my shower I saw Cindy talking and explaining the evening situation to four dudes sitting at the aforementioned round table. At least a two hour wait. I decided to play the field and hope to catch her in a quiet moment. After a quick survey of the room I spotted the following Mädels: Dilara, Daniela, Sasha, Elena (Spain), Elena(Ukraine), Linda, Kim, Yvonne, Simone and a few others. At the main bar I was approached by the Greek/Russian beauty ELINI who I had a session with several weeks ago. For me this little pussycat (yes, she likes to make “purring” noises) is a big turn on. She reminds me a lot of a former Atlantis girl named Vicca who had similar features but was taller. After taking a bit of time together on the big sofa swing to reacquaint ourselves with each other, she and I headed off to find a room. My session with Elini was even better than the last one as I think that she is now considering me to be a regular. She kisses deeply, gives out of this world oral and the sex with her is a good mixture of GFE and PSE with (at least with me) more emphasis on the GFE. Also she is a pretty bright girl and a good conversationalist. I am somewhat gun-shy about this as a result of ST. Ortos’ fears of collusion among the FKK females but she was cool and did not try to burn me on the time. I like this girl and would happily seek her out again.
After Elini, some nourishment was in order. Palace food, while not dinner at the Ritz is a repast that one can at least keep down. They could do better. Plus who wants to kiss anyone who was just had a Horseradish based cream sauce on their slice of beef?
It was interesting and fun to meet up with another board member and compare notes on this girl and that one; this club and that one; even this country and that one. I had an interesting three days of doing this with a number of you fellas out there in FKK-MB land. Novize is correct: it is the best way to kill time between sessions.
By midnight I had pretty much given up catching Cindy and started looking for other victims. Daniela was a likely candidate along with Dilara with whom I have had bucket loads of great sex in the past. I have also had my eye on the short Ukrainian cutie called SASHA. On my last several visits she was always pretty busy and this seemed like a good night to take her out for a test drive. I caught her at a quite moment on the couch across from the small sofa swing. After approaching her and inviting myself to sit down I was afraid that I had made an error. She seemed a little bit stand-offish although I did detect a cute smile now and then. The truth is that the girl has very limited German skills and even less English. Despite this dilemma the little vixen does have the wherewithal to sense when a gentleman is ready for some lovin’ and at the right moment she took me by the hand and led me off to one of the vacant rooms. Her service, while not the best that I have had, is far from the worst. She took good care of my needs and although it was a bit rushed I did enjoy being with her. No kissing, and the sex was pretty standard. We tried to converse some afterwards and she did give some effort. I really think that if I could have spoken Russian or Ukrainian with her that the session would have been even better. She does not give me the impression that she is on the hustle, but rather that she is just a shy girl in a strange land where she is having sex with strangers for money. I would go with her again, but I will wait until she acquires some more German first.
name: Sasha
hair: Brown with blond streaks, shoulder length
size: ~ 1,5 m
figure: slender perhaps a bit of extra flesh around the thighs, B/C Breasts
origin: Ukraine
born: ~ 1985 (I would bet that she is younger)
tattoos/piercing: None
service: bbbj, no kissing, standard service
other: usually wears a black leather belt around her hips
location: Palace, says that she has only been in Germany for a few months.
This session would do it for me that evening. As far as my visits to the Palace are concerned, this was only a middle of the road night. Two sessions; one top-shelf, the other just ok. No Cindy. The next time I head to Palace I will call ahead a month in advance and reserve my hour or so with her. Also my subsequent evenings at Oase and World would prove to be glorious beyond all my expectations. More to follow soon…
Cheers to all,
Dedalus
I made a quick visit to Palace. The three girls I saw were all great:
Christina, 9, Venezuela, 22, shoulder length wavy black hair, thin. Did it in the kino. Great relaxed experience, though she seemed in a bit of a hurry to get away at the end.
Jessica, 10, Romania, 18, slim model figure, straight blonde hair covering her shoulders. Also in the kino. Great GFE.
Arabella, 7, Bulgaria, 24, long straight black hair, short. Later in the evening she spent time with me, just hugging and kissing for a long time.
Can’t say much about the food. When they are getting ready to put it out a huge line forms and if you are not in that initial locust swarm there is only scorched earth left when you get there.
Hi
Just wanted to know if the club accepts credi cards or not.
Faisal
Palace does not accept credit cards. However, there is an ATM about a five minute walk from the club.
If I am not mistaken there is an ATM in the club. Or there will be one very soon.
[QUOTE=Catalyst] Christina, 9, Venezuela, 22, shoulder length wavy black hair, thin. Did it in the kino. Great relaxed experience, though she seemed in a bit of a hurry to get away at the end.
Jessica, 10, Romania, 18, slim model figure, straight blonde hair covering her shoulders. Also in the kino. Great GFE.[/QUOTE]
Christina is actually from Columbia, and I did not really enjoy the experience.
Jessy has a working attitude (IMHO) that fits more into the redlight-district at the train station in Frankfurt (Bahnhofsviertel). There are far better girls than these two at Palace.
And yes, there's an ATM in the club.
And yes, they do not accept credit cards.
Hessen Bub
The ATM only accepts German bank cards, and NOT Visa or Mastercard.
That is the ATM in the club that I am referring to. The ATM five minutes walk away DOES accept Visa and Mastercard.
Hessen,
Wow! So those were the [i]bad[/i] ones? Maybe I have to spend more time here on my next trip.
I was pretty sure that Christina said she was from Venezuela, and she was pretty nice, so maybe we aren't talking about the same girl. I can see how Jessica could be a little business like, but saying that she belongs in the RLD goes way too far. I was in the mood, so maybe I wasn't discriminating, but kissing was no problem with her, nor was doing it in front of a crowd of other people.
[QUOTE=Catalyst]Hessen,
Wow! So those were the [i]bad[/i] ones? Maybe I have to spend more time here on my next trip.
I was pretty sure that Christina said she was from Venezuela, and she was pretty nice, so maybe we aren't talking about the same girl. I can see how Jessica could be a little business like, but saying that she belongs in the RLD goes way too far. I was in the mood, so maybe I wasn't discriminating, but kissing was no problem with her, nor was doing it in front of a crowd of other people.[/QUOTE]
Christina says she's from Venezuela, but she's not. Don't know why, but she does not like to admit she's from Columbia.
Jessy: I did her in the cinema, about 5 or 6 Italians watching. Kissing no problem, you're right, but she was rushing it, no feeling and she seemed to be absent. And I don't really like her face, it was my dick making the decision to book her. ;-)
And yes, there are far better girls. Alice from DomRep, Belen/Juliana from Spain, Kathi from DomRep, Christina from Romania and so on.
Hessen Bub
Christina told also to me she is from Venezuela, but introduced me with her cousin, Ivana, saying she was from Columbia
It didn't make any difference to me....
I went with both of them and enjoyed
Ivana is one of the best blowjobber I ever met
Christina is not a special pick but has something I liked, don't know what
for sure the place offers many better choices if you like the eastern european kind of girls
palace trip report and observations 28th /29th march 2005
its now 2 weeks since my 2 day trip to the palace and looking back i have to say that it was the “horniest 2 days “ of my life. i have travelled the world and have been to all sorts of brothels, swingers clubs and orgies over the last 17 years, in that time i have had and some 400 women including some very hot girlfriends but i found the experiences and atmosphere of the palace just sexually mind blowing.
the reason it was so mind blowing is because i found 80% of the women there just so sexy. and of course the large helpings of oral sex really did it for me. since my return i have been masturbating about 4 times daily, slowly going over my brilliant experiences there!!
the palace is just so much better than anything that netherlands or belgium has to offer. there is no comparison between the palace and any other place i have ever been, sure i have been to swingers clubs where i have been laid 3 or 4 times in one day, and for very little money, but the difference in women is like “chalk and cheese”
i had 7 women in 2 days and i spent approx 500 euro, but so worth it.
day 1 28th march
so my flight landed at 10 am and i got a taxi to the ibis frankfurt west. the taxi only cost 24 euro, so i would say that is the best way to travel to the palace. i know the train/taxi or train/underground combos would be cheaper, but 24 euro is very acceptable to me for the 20 minute cab ride considering either of the other options will hit you for about 15 and take longer. the hotel was very pleasant and i found the palace very easily, 4 minutes from door to door.
i arrived at the palace at 11.30 am and i thought it looked like a dump from the outside, but after paying my 65 euro to the old lady at reception i was very impressed indeed. the palace really is a palace. there were only 4 or 5 girls (all hot) and the same numbers of customers at that time. after a walk around i went for a dip in the pool (its not a whirlpool or jacuzzi as reported, it’s a smallish round swimming pool that has a jet of bubbles in the middle). then chantel came over to say hello , she hunkered down beside me, and while talking all i could do was stare at her beautiful pussy peeping out between her legs. i was sold. i got out and dried and followed her down to the large swing on the right.
chantel – age 25-30 – 165 cm- slim - german – blonde – small tits – looks 8/10 – sex 7/10 was good but a little rushed.
i sat beside her on the swing and we started dfk straight away. after about 2 minutes i lay her down for daty, and then i rolled over moved her into a 69.
all was going well until i caught the sight of some old guy staring at us in the corner of my eye, and for some reason he started putting me off. now i have no problem performing in front of people, but i do have better sex when its just me and the girl. so cos i was paying my hard earned $$$ i decided to continue in a room. once in the room we resumed the 69, her oral was very good but she was rushing a little. she let me finger both holes deeply, and i couldn’t resist smelling my finger once i had retracted it from her anus. very impressed – absolutely no smell of shit at all! if anyone ever fingered my anus her finger would come out a different colour! after 10 mins or so, i felt my orgasm nearing so she finished me with an energetic cow girl fuck.
then i spent another 2 hours relaxing and wandering around. watched some great kino action. i was back in the big room when this plumpish girl with huge natural tits came in. i just knew i had to have her. cant remember her name but she’s turkish.
turkish girl – age 23-25 – 160 cm- plump - turkish – brown with blonde highlights – huge tits – looks 7/10 – sex 8/10 was good but a again a little rushed, also some good dfk
she sat at the bar and i went to sit beside her, we had a drink and she let me grope her beautiful boobs for 10 mins or so. i had a rock hard horn, which she stroked lightly, and then she let me finger her pussy deeply while sitting on the barstool. we went to the room and i spent a while sucking her big tits, i then got her on all fours and licked her pussy and anus before bagging up and doing her doggy style for abit. we finished in a 69, but i didn’t come on her tits or in her mouth. i came on my belly instead and therefore saved 50 euro! when we went to the locker, she started begging for a tip, which she didn’t get btw.
spent the next few hours having dinner, which was adequate at best, some time in the pool, sauna, flirting with the girls and generally having a good time. at one point i was talking to three girls and then they started comparing vaginal piercings, that was a nice sight. whilst lying on a couch in the big room around 7 pm, a very tall sexy blonde with massive tits came into the room.
bianca – age 20– 175 cm- curvy - romanian – blonde – massive tits – looks 10/10 – sex 8/10 was very good but no bbbj or kissing.
called her over and we chatted for a few mins, she let me touch her perfect boobs, and then we went the room. she avoided kissing, and wouldn’t do a bbbj, but still the sex was excellent cos she was so beautiful. i found this girl to touch the limits of physical perfection for me. id say she is the most beautiful woman i ever had sex with. just licking her pussy gave me immense pleasure, and i fucked her missionary while sucking her fabulous tits. i finished inside her.(well ok inside the rubber).
chatted with her later for a while , nice girl.
to be continued ….
Are all of the girls supposed to do BBBJ and DFK? Or is it their own choice?
Should one complain if one doesnt recieve a BBBJ or DFK?
Fred
PS. I would be heading back to the Palace in late April, but instead I have decided to go to Prague to try out the "free sex" in the Bigsister Nite club.
you can expect BBBJ at Palace. A girl not offering this service should tell you upfront. You can cancel the session as soon as you recognize this. If she insists on the money, you may complain at the reception (perhaps it would be better not to complain, but to just refuse paying and look if she will complain at the reception).
If a girl kisses or not, is on her own desision and no reason for complaining. Cjeck out, before you go to a room.
Have fun,
Novize
Got one of the best GFE's of my life at Palace with a girl from Moscow (just Moscow oh là là) whose name unfortunately I have forgotten.
I was considering going Asian but she literally jumped on me while acrossing the bar area. She was blond, tall, very slim, with a very flat stomach decorated with a navel piercing and I found no particular reason not to accept her approach so after some funny kidding in Russian, English and German she invited me to action. I made clear that I was prepared to pay the standard 50 Euros no extras, whatever this may mean (did not check exactly).
Once in the room she showed more than happy to accept my foreplay, that began with an initially relaxing massage on her shoulders gradually converted into a sexy one, followed by enthusiastic fingering and prolonged DATY that she highly appreciated, at this point she was more than available to DFK and BBBJ, after that I got my rubber and we made love (if this is the way to name satisfactory fucking with a lot of kissing) until she realized that time was expiring. Since I said I would pay no extras, she removed my rubber and gave me another enthusiastic BBBJ, just asking me kindly to avoid CIM (would it be an extra or she wouldn't do it at all? I did not check). And so I did.
The mood was even good enough for some galanteries, she made big compliments to the beauty of my eyes (not the first pro to do this BTW ;-)) and I replied like the perfect gentleman, that she was the one who made them look like that.
I had a lot of fun in that place, I went there with 2 customers from Eastern Europe who did not know FKK's and they were so happy that they went there again on a following day. Another gentleman heard us speaking Russian and joined us - new friendship on the spot. And when I was about to leave, I unexpectedly met another customer with his dealers ...
I´m glad you had a good time at Palace. Looks as if FKK-clubs would become a major tourist attraction in Germany... ;)
CIM would indeed be an 50€-extra, so I think it was absolutely fair from her to warn you.
Doing business with customers in a place like Palace would make me recommending 18-hour-workdays! :D
Member 2974,
I would highly recommend to take customers to FKK's for a relaxed business section. You can sit hours wearing nothing by a towel and talking about your things and nobody will disturb you. That's exactly what I did with the customers (from Turkey ...) I met by chance. The only problem you may have is with the bill, I am wondering how many companies will cover these "PR costs", with or without receipt ... obviously, it will be easier if you run your own company ;-)
The customers I went with were extremely happy, they went for a Brasilian sexy bomb. I made them happy with a little effort
the company I work for wouldn´t tolerate this. Most probably I would be fired... :(
But as long as they pay me enough money to settle my club-bills, I will live with it... ;)
Have fun,
Novize
As one of the few cusomers of your company, I think it would be OK. I have a couple of friends who are shareholders, they probably have no problem with it either.
I have taken clients there before too. But I have never paid for them, or tried to write it off. They have paid their bill, I mine, but they still liked the experience.
I do work with foreigners though.
Have to rave on one of the girls at Palace. Sorry that this is a short report.
Jasmina, who is half-Spanish, half-Polish, and around 5-3, about 120 pounds, with dark shoulder-length brown hair and sparkling eyes. She's tan all over and has a great bubbly personality. When I approached her she said she was going to dance, but if I cared to wait, she'd make it worth my while. Boy did she ever! She had incredible energy and was not a true GFE, but rather like a girlfriend you haven't seen in six months. Outstanding experience!
I can confirm, FKK is a highly recomended place to bring customers, if not the best.
Germany's industry and economy create enough opportunities to make a business trip. Even if there is no opportunity, it is easy to convince your company, your family and (not to forget) the customer's company and family that there is one. It's a lot more difficult for you and him to convince anybody that you go to Brasil ot Thailand only for business.
FKK are extremely clean with high class facilities, and a very relaxed atmosphere, it will suit to any VIP customer. If you are not quite sure wether your customer would appreciate to be offered sex, there is no risk to offend him. As there is no hassling, your customer is free not to go further than just watching, like in a usual strip club, and enjoying only the facilities (sauna, massage, food, drinks...). Anyway, even if your customer has no previous mongering experience, it's hard to imagine any man in an FKK refusing sex.
Yes, with just a towel around your waist, plenty of time and this typicall relaxed FKK atmosphere, there is no better place to discuss with a customer.
And even after, your customer will never consider you on the same way again. You have shared together an unique experience, and he will never forget you made discover him this magical world. I think anybody of us has still in mind that memorable experience of the very first time in FKK.
Which FKK are the most suitable for business? The bathrobe policy in the Dusseldorf area may be less intimidating than a simple towel for a first timer, and couch action is less likely to happen. Goldentime and PHG are good values. But my experience is that those clubs have a typicall German (and Dutch) atmosphere, which can make a foreign customer feel unconfortable. The Frankfurt Area have more ethnical diversity regarding the visitors, and English is largely spoken. World, Oase and Palace are ecellent values for non German speaking customers.
Regarding the expenses, my policy is to pay transport and hotel to the customer (which will be refunded by my company), but not the sex. You are not a pimp offering girls. It will be more confortable also for your customer. Once in an FKK, it's not a customer anymore but a friend, and both pay for their sex expenses. Once a customer was getting short of cash, I paid his last session. But it was clear for him that I paid from my private money as a friend, not as a business partner.
I heard some FKK accept credit cards and can make special bills. I would not recomend this. Your boss is not the only guy to convince, there are several other employees (account...) in your company who may see the bill. Don't blow up your reputation in your company for a few Euros. It was worth the money anyway.
A good sleep was needed after some marathon sessions at World Saturday night. Woke up Sunday between 12 and 13, checked out of the hotel and headed for Palace. I had no illusions that I would get the same kind of sessions I just had at World the night before, but it still turned out alright.
Sunday daytime at Palace is pretty slow, but also pretty relaxing. Arrived around 13:00. There was enough left of the breakfast/brunch to have some decent sandwich. About 10 girls were present, most of them in the 5-7 range. I spent the first hour relaxing but soon spotted:
name: Isabel
hair: Dark, long
size: ~ 1,6 m
figure: slim, very nice C breasts
origin: Romania
born: 1982
tattoos/piercing: ?
service: bbbj, DFK
other:
location: Palace
Isabella worked for couple of months at World about year and a half ago. She remembers the top acts there and we chatted for a while about that. She just started again 2 days ago. Lives in Giessen and has been studying something I guess would translate to Wholesale trade and export. Have no idea if that is true, and don’t really care, but she was a nice conversation partner.
Her body is quite nice and her breast are excellent. Decent DFK followed by DATY and BBBJ. All in all a pretty good session and I would repeat.
Had a long rest and actually thought about calling it a day and go grab a bite downtown before heading out to Hahn to catch my flight back home. As I was relaxing on the bench/sofa by the bar, then arrives next to me:
name: Angelique
hair: Dark redish, short
size: ~ 1,7 m
figure: slim, A breasts
origin: Russian
born: ~ 1975
tattoos/piercing: small tatoo above right buttock
service: bbbj, DFK
other:
location: Palace
This is not my first session with Angelique and she is one of the better known FKK girls, voted miss Atlantis some years ago and has capitalized on her fame since then. Today I was not in the mood for some of her sarcastic jokes, but decided to have the session anyway.
Reminded of Dedalus’s experience with her few weeks ago, I decided to keep a good track of the time. Decided from the start to have 1 hour session as I was in the mood to be pampered.
The sex part of the session was regular Angelique, slow licking, decent blowjob good kissing etc., but still she really does not do it that much for me anymore. She is a bit over the top, quite materialistics and I get kind of tired of her talk about nice cars and big credit cards. But the best part of the session was still to come.
After I came we had about 25 minutes left of the session. She asked me if I wanted more sex, more bbbj or some massage. I opted for the massage and what followed was the best massage I have gotten from a FKK girl. To me it seems that she knows a bit about massaging. She used lots of oil, had this trick of really heating up her hands by rubbing them hard against each other, did the right spots and added just the right amount of erotica to the massage.
After she did my back, she packed me into a towel and continued on my legs. I was a aware of the time and made sure we left the room with 3 minutes left of the hour. Had a feeling she might try to extend over the hour but cannot be sure, but I did not give her the opportunity to hang around.
This will probably be my last session with her as she just does’nt ring my bells anymore. Might go for another massage though.
This concludes the 3 club visit this time. World stands out for me this time, but probably not fair to Palace as I did not visit there until Sunday. Seems that Palace was rocking on Friday and Saturday though from what the girls told me.
Chivaz
During the past week, I visited Palace a few times. Towards the end of the week, I started to notice alot of girls who are often called "stars." For Peter, who loves this girl, I post the following:
Mascha, the slim Russian brunette, was at Palace last Sat night. I don't know if she was there on Friday, since I wasn't there Friday. She was not there Thurs or Sun. During the Saturday night she spent alot of time working as a two-girl tag team, with the Russian/Greek girl Eleni. They would go around and find two guys together. Then take them together into a room, or on one occassion did the whole session in the kino. I was lucky to be lying in the kino when they came in with their two charges. It was nice to watch the girls working on the guys. This Mascha was really wild, fucking the shit out of this guy in reverse cowgirl...or was it anal? Too dark to see for sure.
Other so-called "star" girls I noticed:
Cindy, blonde-buxum bombshell
Marina, Lithuania
Daniela, Romania
Angelika, Siberia (not looking so good anymore IMHO!)
Christina, Romania
But there were lots of other girls, some regulars, some new. I also met some girls who work Palace in addition to other clubs, like Flamingo Island. They told me they come to Palace for the weekends, but work the other club(s) during the week.
Altogether I found incredible variety at Palace, and as I was also visiting Oase and World during the same days, I was able to experience the line-ups of all three clubs and produce a gut-reaction as to which club had the overall best girl line-up. In my opinion, Palace won hands down!
Hey guys, if any of you will be at either World or Palace on Wednesday afternoon/evening/night, I'll be there with some friends of mine. At both places, I tend to hang around the bar. I'm wanting to put some faces with the names on here. SO if you are going shoot me a PM.
V
Can you leave Palace and come back later the same day without paying a second entrance fee? I'm thinking of going to during the day and then leaving for dinner and coming back later that night. How does that work?
Thanks,
Jaas
Jaas,
That is no problem. Just tell the people at the door when you come in the first time that that is your plan. Then make sure you tell them again when you leave the first time. They will remember your face. In'n'Out is the motto of all these clubs, and they allow it in this manner too.
Jaas,
At Palace they actually give you a stamped note to turn in when you come back. I have done this a few times for exactly the same reason as you, i.e. getting some decent dinner. Never had any problems with the second entry
Chivaz
The last time I was in the club there was a real looker. Blond, medium height with a gorgeous face. She looked German, but I can't be sure. I don't know her name because we never had a session. She wears a bright red wide sash around her waist (most girls in Palace do this instead of using a towel). She is one of the prettiest girls so she had no shortage of customers. I saw at least 3 people approach her for sessions. However, all three were back at the lockers after 15 minutes!! So, if you like eye candy, she may be the one for you, but don't expect anything more than a mechanical experience. When a girl like that shuttles customers back after 15 minutes, you know she is only interested in getting you to come asap and to collect the money. Too bad, the girl could easily have have hour sessions with many clients. But then again if there is a waiting list, why not get 50E for 15 minutes.
The last time I was in Palace there was a Greek girl that looked alot like a girl I had met in Atlantis year ago. She was called Sia and provided great service with a stellar personality. The last I heard she had married some German guy who was much older. This girl looked like the same one--only years older. If anyone knows if that is her, let me know. If so, it is too bad because her looks are nowhere like that a few years ago. When she was at Atlantis, she would cruise the place and talk with the customers. She could pick up a customer without any work and was constantly busy.
Report on Palace FKK. Its a short taxi ride from the main train station, cost less than 10 euros to get there. Even the taxi had an advertising banner on its doors.
Anyone wanting a cheap and decent hotel, try the Excelsior on Manheimer Strasse near the station. Book via Hrs.de it will cost you 51 euros which includes a free minbar, free internet access, breakfast and afternoon snacks. Rooms are adequate and clean.
I can only make a comparison to Atlantis where I unfortunately got caught up in the raid a year ago. Palace is quite a big establishment, nicely presented but does not seem to have either the quality and ambience, nor the presence of Atlantis, sadly now closed down.
At reception, I was told of the prices and shown around the place and at 23:45 hrs, a hot and cold buffet was still on offer. You are given a key to two lockers, one for your clothes and another for your valuables. A plastic tag is put on your wrist and is taken off when you leave.
I had a 30 minute massage which I rated top class near the steam room.
After this, I made my way to the action arena. Probably the ratio was 2:1, so choice was not great. Only a handful I would rate at 6-7, no more. At the back of the bar is a large size jucuzzi pool and sauna.
A russian, named Angelika with short brunette/reddish hair came over and started conversation and advised the starting price was 50 euros, but would increase to 100 euros for CIM Angelika was very pleasant and mentioned about this board where she has had very good reviews in the past.
There was some couch action, especially in the video room. During the course of the evening, there was a two girl show pole dancing but both girls who were the best of the bunch that night did not seem to be making themselves available.
Later, I met another pleasant and friendly girl with massive tits from Greece who came over to try to hook up with me.
I left Palace at 3am but personally, I would try Oase and World next as many past reviews on this board advises there is more choice and better quality.
toki,
that Anjelika you were talking to is from Omsk, and she was voted ***** of the year by the german board Roemerforum two years ago. She is known for excellent service and really getting into it.
[QUOTE=Akibono]I saw at least 3 people approach her for sessions. However, all three were back at the lockers after 15 minutes!! [/QUOTE]
Doesn't have to mean a thing. I know some top acts who do this if they like to, but also can be great for 30, 60 or 240 minute sessions.
And some men do not look for more than a 15 minute fuck, they are not into after-sex-talk and strive to leave the room as quick as possible.
Hessen Bub
I don't doubt that as I found her friendly and easy to talk to. She was just not my type.
[QUOTE=Peter]toki,
that Anjelika you were talking to is from Omsk, and she was voted ***** of the year by the german board Roemerforum two years ago. She is known for excellent service and really getting into it.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Hessen Bub]Doesn't have to mean a thing. I know some top acts who do this if they like to, but also can be great for 30, 60 or 240 minute sessions.
And some men do not look for more than a 15 minute fuck, they are not into after-sex-talk and strive to leave the room as quick as possible.
Hessen Bub[/QUOTE]
If that is what you look for, that's fine. But most people here are looking for the GFE. They want the illusion that the girl thinks they represent more than a 50E note. I think most people would want more than 15 minutes. Just providing a report for those who might want a bit more than eye candy.
Aki,
I don't want to be the guy who disagrees with you all the time. But I am not really looking for a GFE when I go the clubs. If I want a GFE, I fuck my GF. I'll be honest she probably fucks better than any girls I have fucked in a club, although she is not nearly as good in the BJ department, although she swallows.
But I am not looking for all the emotional attachment she associates with sex. I am just looking for some relaxation, and I lie that after it is over it is over. I have had a couple of girls win clubs who have gotten posessive and clingy like a GF and it really bothers me. That is why I do not understand the guys who go to Thailand or Brasil and hang out with the girl all day or night.
Maybe it is because I am young and decent looking and have no problem meeting girls, but I go to clubs for unattached pleasant fucking. If I rim a girl in a club she doesn't look at me funny thinking I expect her to rim me back. I can sport fuck every now and again, and I can also just choose to lay back and let her blow me for half an hour.
I have some other girls I go with regularly where it is more of a "friends with benefits" experience. We go to the room and just talke for a long time about everything under the sun, and then we fuck for a while and go back out. So I am not really looking for this big deal acting world. sometimes I even tell the girl, "hey it doesn't look like you have earned anything today, let's go and earn you some money"
But I am weird sometimes.
[QUOTE=Peter]Aki,
But I am not looking for all the emotional attachment she associates with sex. I am just looking for some relaxation, and I lie that after it is over it is over. I have had a couple of girls win clubs who have gotten posessive and clingy like a GF and it really bothers me. That is why I do not understand the guys who go to Thailand or Brasil and hang out with the girl all day or night.
I have some other girls I go with regularly where it is more of a "friends with benefits" experience. We go to the room and just talke for a long time about everything under the sun, and then we fuck for a while and go back out. So I am not really looking for this big deal acting world. sometimes I even tell the girl, "hey it doesn't look like you have earned anything today, let's go and earn you some money"
But I am weird sometimes.[/QUOTE]
I could not agree more. I visit these places for the exact same reason and I personally think this a healthy outlook. I have spoken with other forum members about the need to not take this "hobby" too seriously. Relax, fantasize, and have fun. To take our "relationships" with these ladies too seriously and not see them for what they really are is delusional and may create unnecessary difficulties.
Cheers,
Dedalus (Another weirdo)
Hi guys,
I (and I think most including Aki) actually use the term GFE not to imply emotional attachment, but mainly to indicate that the girl performance was more than mechanical RLD kind of sex, showed some "kindness" instead of "discust", and was able to carry out a decent and perhaps interesting conversation. Hell, it can even be nice to get some compliments, even when you know it is a part an illusion. Sometimes you also feel like chilling a little bit afterwards, get some massage or just have a smoke or a sip of drink after sex instead of just watching the girls heels as she sprints óut of the room. It is a kind of intimacy without much emotion.
The above is what I read form Akibonos comments, but he can correct me if I'm wrong.
The best girls in my opinion are those who are able to mix up GFE/PSE (whatever you like at the time), and c'mon, it is most of the time all acting anyways, even some of the interesting conversation can be acting like the "friends with benefits", although some may be genuine. In terms of getting you back into the room, some of the girls are not stupid. Many will figure out what you want and give it to you, conversation or otherwise.
If the term is associated with the girl hanging on to you afterwards, getting posessive, I agree with Peter, I don't want that kind of GFE. I still think that is most often also an act, just a different kind of act.
IMO, FKKs are providing what most would call GFE when they compare it to other p4p in Europe. It is actually a term some will attach to a girl for barely allowing kissing.
Is'nt all a make believe world, just with different preference on the type of play and acting? Some people like the rides at Disney World while others like to chat with Mickey Mouse ;-)
Just my 2 cents on the issue,
Chivaz
I agree with all of the comments here. I think most of us feel a little uncomfortable when we visit a club and a girl we have previously seen expects us to have a session with them.
For me sex is important, but I don't like being treated like a 50E note. So, when I am processed for 15 minutes, it just feels that way. I think most people feel this way. I don't think many of us have such an attachment to any girl that we would feel jealous when she goes into the room with another customer. However, many have expressed sadness when a LT provider has left the business.
Was in Palace a few weeks ago and had sessions with Anya as well as Elena.
Elena is one of my favorite providers. She just has everything I am looking for. Fair skin, petite, pretty face, bubbly personality, and most important, she likes to kiss for a long time. I always get alot of passion from her even though she does not speak alot of English. First met her at OAse and she disappeared for quite awhile. Highly recommended.
While I was there (it was a really busy night), I did not have an opportunity to have a session with a dutch girl (I think she has been mentioned here before). She comes to Germany for a few days at a time. She is a tall, thin, blond with slightly curly long hair. Perfect breasts and very friendly. Apparently the locals know her since she had some extended sessions and several approached her to ask when she was free. So, she was booked for the entire night.
Also, had a session with a French girl (kinda surprising since this is the first I have met at a FKK). I will not post her name since I feel she would not want it known. She said she does not come often and more so for the sex than the money. I believe her since we talked for a long time and I actually had to suggest that we go to a room. Sex was passionate, but I suspect that YMMV with this one since she was quite interested in who I am instead of making the most money.
i arrived in ffm at 11:00 and the cute desk girl at the excelsior took one look at my 6 foot eight frame and gave me a nice double, even though i told her i would stay only one night and not three as i reserved. the flight was not too restuful, so i chilled in the room until around 16:00. then it was easy to walk around the corner and catch the u4, changing trains when the overhead announcement said to change for the u6 or 7. i caught a u6 and got off at industriehof, walking across the crossing and ahead through the first gap in the wall and down the block to palace. at 5 pm, the ratio was about even and there were a number of hotties about, about 20 girls total. angelique soon chatted me up, she thought she knew me from atlantis hehe. she looked a bit younger and kind of cute this day, but for me once is enough with her.
i noticed a blonde with an incredible ass and legs with frizzy long blonde hair. soon she was beside me on the couch against the wall near the bar downstairs. she draped herself on top of me comfortably and we schmoozed and smooched and petted a bit before i took her to a room. she is romanian- i'm pretty sure her name was nicolletta? facially, she looks like sarah jessica parker. the sex was okay, but she seemed a bit rushed and kept asking what do you want? anal is 100, cum on face is 50, what do you want?
i ate a delicious buffet of tender braten beef, potato gratin and salads, very good this time. i spotted on the line for food grosse diana and i think marina, other tall lithuanian godesses, the lineup steadily improved in the early evening. i went to eat and rest under the "tent" and two cute slim thai girls sat nearby, then a more plump one. after the food, jani, the plumpest one, began to carress me and massage me for nearly 45 minutes so i took her to a room after we started kissing a bit and she rubbed me hard. she was into the sex it seemed, but i did not fancy her body and so pounded her for almost 40 minutes and paid her 50 since i lost track of the time.
next, i spent some time couch potatoing near the bar watching the dancers. a guy was getting a blow job standing right at the bar from a dominican girl. this is one of my favorite spots- much action and there is an open window at the end of the couch that blows cold air just in front of the dance pole. adorable, young (just 18!) blonde little jessie of romania was putting on quite a show with her open legs, she sat on my lap and i felt her up and played for a while but i have been with her once and she is a young tease and not worth 50 euro except as an optikfick so she went along on her way. greek eleni came by, i could not remember if what i had read was good or bad so i claimed caput. i like her look though and now that i know she is good, i will go next time.
an attractive slim brunette walked by for a second time, perky b cups and a [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url] ass soon had me joining sarah from croatia in a room, though now we had to wait on a couch for some 15 minutes. another run of the mill session having all of the right acronyms but with little chemistry.
by now it's like 1 am and i am hungering for the real thing. marina is nowwhere to be seen. i have the last couple of pieces of beef and potato gratin- delicious, and go back to my couches for another hour of hunting. the mongers at palace do not seem as friendly as at phg, golden time, or world, when i go to palace alone i seem to remain alone unless i am with a girl. anyway, i see in my notes that i did as a fourth and final girl a romanian named ramona but i cannot for the life of me remember anything about it. jet lag kicks in?
i hung around for another hour or so. i noticed a big buxom porno blonde, is this the amazing cindy? on a final go around i saw marina, sitting by herself behind the whirlpool. as i have been with her twice before, and she did not make any move at all at recognition, i assumed she was tired or otherwise wanted to be alone and walked on by, into the locker and called it a night.
thus ended a less than stellar evening for me at palace- first time i didn't have at least one real good session there. on the wayout, a well dressed englishman was not being allowed to leave since it was claimed he owed another 100 euro to a girl and was refusing to pay it- the female attendents were keeping him inside and he wanted to call police to explain it to them.
slept well at the excelsior and did world the next three days running. more on that later.
beffen
Beffen,
Sorry you did not have such great success this time at Palace. On my last several visits there I have always been lucky and had great times, enjoyed great chemistry and sessions there. I like the Palace kino alot for hanging out in later stages of recovery.
I think just being and interacting with the slightly changing girl assemblage at Palace from day to day does help one in selecting the right ones for your sessions. But you seem to have been right on the mark by dismissing girls like the Romanian Jessie.
Just so you know: The first girl you write about, Nicolletta, was quite a well-known girl at Atlantis from 2002-2004. She was one of the earlier Atlantis sessions for me. I never resessioned with her mainly because, like you, I thought she had a great body but a mediocre performance and attitude.
Yeah, you definitely should have given Eleni a try.
Hope you give Palace another try one day...
I too, like Beffen, had a crappy time at Palace last week. I had high expectations for a good time being that it was a Friday night and having been there twice before.
The girl selection wasn't that great, mainly 6 & 7's with a couple of 8's wandering around. There was one girl that was very rude there. I don't know her name but she had blonde hair, tanned, fairly good looking but with a cross-eyed kind of look. Maybe german or east european. Does anyone know who she is? She hangs out with a fairly dark skinned good looking brown haired girl.
Anyways although there was slim pickings, I did manage one session that evening and that was with Isabelle, a petit and slim Rumanian girl. She had only been there a few weeks. The session was ok. Nice talkative girl.
I had better sessions later on that week at Cola, World and Oase.
Howie
[QUOTE=Toki Jo]Report on Palace FKK. Its a short taxi ride from the main train station, cost less than 10 euros to get there. Even the taxi had an advertising banner on its doors.
Anyone wanting a cheap and decent hotel, try the Excelsior on Manheimer Strasse near the station. Book via Hrs.de it will cost you 51 euros which includes a free minbar, free internet access, breakfast and afternoon snacks. Rooms are adequate and clean.
I can only make a comparison to Atlantis where I unfortunately got caught up in the raid a year ago. Palace is quite a big establishment, nicely presented but does not seem to have either the quality and ambience, nor the presence of Atlantis, sadly now closed down.
At reception, I was told of the prices and shown around the place and at 23:45 hrs, a hot and cold buffet was still on offer. You are given a key to two lockers, one for your clothes and another for your valuables. A plastic tag is put on your wrist and is taken off when you leave.
I had a 30 minute massage which I rated top class near the steam room.
After this, I made my way to the action arena. Probably the ratio was 2:1, so choice was not great. Only a handful I would rate at 6-7, no more. At the back of the bar is a large size jucuzzi pool and sauna.
A russian, named Angelika with short brunette/reddish hair came over and started conversation and advised the starting price was 50 euros, but would increase to 100 euros for CIM Angelika was very pleasant and mentioned about this board where she has had very good reviews in the past.
There was some couch action, especially in the video room. During the course of the evening, there was a two girl show pole dancing but both girls who were the best of the bunch that night did not seem to be making themselves available.
Later, I met another pleasant and friendly girl with massive tits from Greece who came over to try to hook up with me.
I left Palace at 3am but personally, I would try Oase and World next as many past reviews on this board advises there is more choice and better quality.[/QUOTE]
Toki Joe,
I noticed you referred to a 30 minute massage near the steam room. Was there a charge for the massage? If so, how much? I have seen massages mentioned in several other posts but never was there a mention if that is a provided service or an extra charge.
Member 2652,
Yes there is a charge for the regular massage at Palace- it is like 30 euro for 30 minutes of neck and shoulders massage, and I think 45 for 30 minutes of whole body massage with an hour costing 60 euro. Pretty much the same as at World and Oase. The hammam treatment is expensive though if I remember.
beffen 1
If you bid for a three star hotel on Frankfurt's West side on Priceline.com , you can get the Courtyard Messe for around a US$45 to US$55 bid. With taxes you come out with US$65 per night for the room.
The hotel has a free courtasy shuttle from the FRA Airport. You can call the hotel at the free call box which is located at the Hotel Shuttle Pick Up Area. The Courtyard Messe's green shuttle picks you up in about 15 minutes (depending on traffic). On departure the shuttle brings you back to the airport from the hotel at no charge too.
The hotel is great for those staying in FRA on a short layover (1 or 2 night). Keep in mind that the hotel is isolated (did not see restaurants, stores within walking distance of the hotel). Yet for a 10 Euro - less than a 10 minute taxi ride you will be at the Palace. If Palace is your only Frankfurt stop the Courtyard Messe is a good choice. You can always partake of the free meals, juices, and softdrinks available at the Palace to keep you fed during your stay.
Keep in mind that the above prices are available when there is no a trade show at the Messe. You will pay much higher in case there is an event at Messe.
[QUOTE=Member #2652]Toki Joe,
I noticed you referred to a 30 minute massage near the steam room. Was there a charge for the massage? If so, how much? I have seen massages mentioned in several other posts but never was there a mention if that is a provided service or an extra charge.[/QUOTE]
I can confirm the 30 minute partial massage (neck, back and shoulders) cost me 30 euros, but it was very professional and relaxing. I cannot remember other prices but you can opt for a 60 minute massage at a higher price.
Natalie was my most GFE experience. She is a small Czech girl with curly blond hair. She has a great thin body with a great ass and a tatoo above it.
Great DFK, incredible BBBJTC and wild sex. She loves sex and she shows it.
We stayed 1hour in the room and after that she stayed 1 hour in my arms in the main room : isn't that GFE attitude ?
If you want to find her you have to go to Palace before 9pm.
Enjoy
[QUOTE=Dadou29]Natalie was my most GFE experience. She is a small Czech girl with curly blond hair. She has a great thin body with a great ass and a tatoo above it.
Great DFK, incredible BBBJTC and wild sex. She loves sex and she shows it.
We stayed 1hour in the room and after that she stayed 1 hour in my arms in the main room : isn't that GFE attitude ?
If you want to find her you have to go to Palace before 9pm.
Enjoy[/QUOTE]
Dadou29,
This sounds like the same Nathalie who worked at FKK Beach last November. [url]http://www.*************.info/forum/showpost.php?p=322336&postcount=83[/url] I enjoyed my time with her, and will have to look for her the next time I visit Palace.
Thanks for letting us know she is there,
Viagrant
P.S. I am attaching a couple of pictures of her that were from the Starlight web site when she worked for FKK Beach. See if it is the same girl.
yes, i can confirm that the petite czech girl named natalie at palace these days is the same girl in the two photos posted just below.
i first saw her working at palace in january. she is there quite often because i saw observed her during subsequent visits to palace in march and april. don't know why, but it took me until my april visit to try a session with her. i was very, very pleased with her attitude and performance and i did curse myself for not sessioning with her during earlier months as there was always good opportunities. she gave me a great session which was kind of a gfe/pse mix. definitely i would repeat. she is fairly popular but not impossible to snag if you are patient. on the occassion i sessioned with her, she actually approached me on the long bench couch by the upper bar. she came over and laid with me talking and cuddling for a half hour before she took my hand and led me to a room. i'd be interested to see what a repeat session would be like...definite [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url] beffen material...
Yes Viagrant that's her. Nice pictures by the way.
Why did you show me these pictures :mad: ? Now I have to go see her this week end !!! You're gonna cost me money !
Don't worry, I'll survive that ;)
THANKS
I entered Palace, a few minutes after midnight and there was lots of good looking girls, and not to many men.
name: Marcella
hair: Brown, long
size: ~ 1,66 cm
figure: slim, very nice C breasts
origin: Brazil
age: mid twenties
tattoos/piercing: one tatto under one of her breasts
Marcella is a very beautiful girl, good massage and sex, but no kissing and she had garlic breath, this girl is beautiful and gives great sex, but no GFE IMHO.
name: Anna
hair: Dark, long and curly
size: ~ 1,70 cm
figure: slim, a cup
origin: Greece
age: mid twenties
tattoos/piercing: no
Anna is a typical greek/mediterean girl, she is very friendly give great bbb
name: Sofia
hair: Curly fake blond
size: ~ 1,6 m
figure: slim, very nice b breasts
origin: Venezuela
age: early twenties
tattoos/piercing: no
name: Miriam
hair: Dark, long
size: ~ 1,7 cm
figure: slim, B breasts
origin:Domincan republic
born: mid twenties
tattoos/piercing: no
name: Marie
hair: Dark, long
size: ~ 1,6 m
figure: slim, very nice C breasts
origin: Domican republic
born: mid twenties
tattoos/piercing: no, wears a gold belt
name: Linda
hair: Brown curly, long
size: ~ 1,75 cm
figure: slim, Incredibly huge natural breats, G or H cup ??
origin: Czech republic
born: mid/late twenties
tattoos/piercing: no
[QUOTE=Howie]I too, like Beffen, had a crappy time at Palace last week. I had high expectations for a good time being that it was a Friday night and having been there twice before.[/QUOTE]
You posted you went on the 29th. Clubs are less active at the end of the month. As I understand it, ALL Germans, including hourly workers, get paid on the 1st of the month. Discretionary cash gets very tight at then end. Therefore, far fewer native customers, and therefore fewer girls working. Been there, done that, went home disappointed.
I visited Palace first time last Friday. Alex P Keaton's direction was extremely helpful.
I arrived at Palace around 9 PM. Took my time to get acquainted with the surroundings.
Compare to other FKK clubs, the advantages of Palace are: 1) close proximity to Frankfurt (around 10 Euro to most of downtown hotels, or less than 30 min. by train); 2) better food than I have seen at any FKK; and 3) not many high pressure selling girls.
I had three sessions and the following is the summary:
1. Charley
She said she is German from Berlin, but later I overheard she was telling she was from Poland. So I do not know which one is true. She is about 5'9, 120 lb. Gorgeous body and pretty face. The session was very nice as well. 8.5/10/9 (face/body/service). Highly recommend.
2. Natalie
She is Czech. Her body is a bit rounder than I would normally go for. But she had a beautiful face and I really liked the way she talked. So I decided go with her. We went to the TV room first, and she provided nice GFE there. At that point, I knew my choice was right. The session in the room was nice as well. 9/7.5/9.5. Best GFE of the night. Highly recommend.
3. Isabel.
She is from Romania. IMHO, she was the most beautiful girl of the night with the best body. However, the session with her was rather uninspiring. No repeat for me. 9.5/9.5/5.
I think the old proven technique always work. Observe the interaction between the girl and her client. You can get pretty good idea what kind of session you will have. I did that with Charley and Natalie, and both provided nice services. I fail to do the same with Isabel, and took a chance (because she was so hot!!!).
Hi Rain,
I had a session with Isabel few weeks ago and it was actually a very good one and I would definetly repeat. Just goes to show that the girls can have their good and bad days and YMMV. It might also have something to do with it was a very relaxed Sunday afternoon with few clients around.
Chivaz
[QUOTE=Rain City]1. Charley
She said she is German from Berlin, but later I overheard she was telling she was from Poland. So I do not know which one is true. She is about 5'9, 120 lb. Gorgeous body and pretty face. The session was very nice as well. 8.5/10/9 (face/body/service). Highly recommend.[/QUOTE]
She's half Dutch, so might have told she's from "Holland", not Poland. She called herself Janny before, and her performance is great.
Hessen Bub
I was with Charlie several weeks ago and she was very good. Started talking a little after the session and she told me she was born in Holland but has lived in Berlin since she was a child. She says she works only one or two days a week because she has a boyfriend who does not know about the job. Also said she works another day job and just does the FKK thing to try and save up to buy a BMW Z3.
Trojan
[QUOTE=Hessen Bub]She's half Dutch, so might have told she's from "Holland", not Poland. She called herself Janny before, and her performance is great.
Hessen Bub[/QUOTE]
A Z3!
What a noble cause!
I'm sure when she drives around the streets of Berlin she'll be so proud of how she earned the money for the fly ride. Gives new meaning to "Pimp My Ride".
I ran into a provider today when I went to the fitness studio with my ex girlfriend. I saw Naomi from GT, who used to work in Dolce Vita. She is a pretty Ethipian looking girl, but I think she is Moroccan. She was arguing about how her membership should have been extended because she was "out of country" for 3 months.
I ru into the women all over the place in their normal lives. but somehow I think the eastern europeans who help buy their parents an appartment are doing something a little more meaningful than buying that Z3!
I was at the Palace on the 15th, 16th, and 17th of May. I have been several times before and had great times. This time, I had a good time, but the least exciting yet. There seemed to be less "star attractions" this time around. Don't get me wrong, there were definitely attractive women, but there just seemed to be something missing. I spent a session with Marcella for a couple of reasons. one being that she is extremely attractive, and two, she is Brazilian. We have all heard that the Brazilians are great in the sack, but she proved to be the exception, I guess. She spent a good portion of our time telling me how she wanted to go to America and she needed to marry an American to get her Green Card. She then proceeded to ask if I was married and if I wanted to take up her offer of getting married and she would have sex with me as much as I wanted. This was a bit of a turn off, but I managed to put it out of my mind to get the ball rolling. The sex was good, but nothing spectacular as I was expecting from a Brazilian. Afterwards, I was paying her and I handed her a 10 Euro tip for some crazy reason. She then told me it was 100! I said, no, it's 50. She said, no, we were in the room for an hour. I knew this was a complete lie because I happened to know the time we went in. I said I couldn't believe she was trying to rip me off after I had already given her a tip. We haggled for a couple of minutes and told her that I knew she was lying and if she wanted more money to go get the manager. She then hugged me and kissed me on the cheek and said thank you as if nothing had happened. Crazy!
I had a few other average sessions including one with the girl with the enormous real breasts. Her breasts are too big for me, but she seemed nice and really was cute. Too bad she was uneventful in bed.
Probably the best session I had was with Jazmin, a black haired, tanned, great bodied German. She is Hot! I know that the German girls have a bad reputation, but in previous experiences, I have been quite lucky. She was a bit cold, but I was very attracted to her so I went for it. The session was good, but certainly not the best. Her looks definitely did it for me. She warmed up afterwards for a minute, but by then it was all over.
Overall, an ok experience, but I have had much better trips to Frankfurt. So, alas, I will go back, of course!
Thanks for the great forum everyone. This is the forum that has turned me on to the FKK scene.
Jaas
I don't agree that German girls always have a bad reputation. That is something that remains from the Eros Center Brothels near the train station days. In FKK's a lot of the top acts are Germans. Think of Sandy at PHG, Natascha at Goldentime and a lot of others.
I am not sure about this but the German girls at the FKK in the Rhine area seemed to be friendlier. Nadia and Samy @ PHG and Samantha @ Wiago.
I will be in Frankfurt between 6.00 a.m. and 11.00 a.m. and have to catch a flight at 1.00. Will I have time to visit the Palace? What time do they open in the morning? Any other suggestions?
Thanks
[QUOTE=Candide]Monday night at Palace, usually one of the worst nights to visit, was in fact surprisingly acceptable this time around. Most of the action is around and after midnight. Many people seem to synchronize their visits with the arrival of the 10pm buffet which is really quite appetizing. Geronima (German brunette short hair D-sized) was my first choice of the night and resulted in an ok experience. Much better were some of the flirty Russian girls who do noy shy away from kino action and know how to use their tongues to perfection. The athmosphere was quite nice though with lots of girls "hiding" in the many Palace alcoves. Will try again on "busier" nights.[/QUOTE]I have a layover from 6.00 -- 12.00 in the morning. Will it be worthwhile to visit the Palace. I have to catch a flight at 1.00! What is the opening time? How many girls are there? Do some of them sleep there?
Thanks.
I will in Frankfurt between 6.00 and 12.00 and have a flight to catch at 1.00. Is it worthwhile to visit the Palace?. What is the opening time?
The other option is to hang around in RLD or do both. Any advice?
Thanks.
[QUOTE=Long Time Boy]Palace is easy to get to by public transport. Take the S8 train Industriehof stop.
Get off at the Industriehof cross the tracks and then a road that runs right next to and parallel to the train tracks. There's a 7 foot high, brick wall. Follow the wall by turning right (the wall on your left side) walk about 50 metres less than 1 minute and come to gap. Turn left through gap, walk straight ahead till you see a sign that says "Konigsbergerstr. 23 (Hinterhaus)" and has an arrow pointing left. Go around the building to the front door in other street. All up from downtown Frankfurt it takes aobut 10 minutes and costs a couple Euro.
Once there have fun. I did. Actually my four hour stay started brilliantly with a small Romania dark hard raver (7.5 to look at but a 10 feel for nastiness). BBBJ, DFK GFE 4play the works ... great. Small break. Pretty good round two another break, sauna, food, drink and then got a bum wrap from a kino-girl from Russia, tall nice tits but too professional, no spirit, no fun really.
I waited for the 'erotic show': what crap. The night however, was a blast overall. Millions of naked women walk, sitting, talking. IMHO there is nothing quite like sitting there watching the world go by as one after another naked women pass you, smile, show you their slits and, if you want will blow you. Can't really beat that!
It's worth a detour. For sure[/QUOTE]
Palace opens at 10:00 a.m., snd I think it wouldn´t be a good idea to go there that early. Most probably you´ll have to leave before the women have washed, put on their make-up etc...
Have fun,
Novize
Novize (hey!! you got your name back!! Congrats) is spot on in suggesting you skip Palace if you have a 13.00 flight to catch. Going there at 10.00 and having to leave by 11ish, would be like watching the meat grill on the BBQ but having to leave just as it reaches readiness to eat! Don't torture yourself or waste 65Es.
Any advice? Yeah, book a later flight!
Oh, btw: As was already corrected several posts below, the S-bahn goes nowhere near Palace, but the U-bahn goes to Industriehof...
Anyone have info on what the lineup has been like the past few days. Just wondering if Cindy or Marina have been working? Also wondering if anyone knows the wherabouts of Natalie from Vilinius that has worked both Atlantis and Palace?
[QUOTE=Euro Wanderer]Just wondering if Cindy or Marina have been working? Also wondering if anyone knows the wherabouts of Natalie from Vilinius that has worked both Atlantis and Palace?[/QUOTE]
Haven't seen Cindy around for a long time, same for Natalie/Michelle, have not seen her since February.
If seen Marina on Monday, she's at Palace regularly, but not that often. Have fun and just try some other girls ... ;-)
Hessen Bub
U-4 (North from Hbf stop) to U-6 or U-7,,, then get off at Industriehof... BTW, there is some construction on the street just before you see the Palace sign,, do not detour :-)
Thank Beffen for making use of the U-Bahn and giving good instructions! I follow his directions to Alkmaar, then to PHG,, now to Palace ?? Whats next,, Long Island?
Ok guys, I'm leaving Germany for good for the USA on the 15th of June. I'm planning on one more trip to Palace on the 14th and then taking a taxi to the airport on the morning of the 15th for my flight. Does Palace have a place whre I can store my luggage, or should I do that at the airport?
Also, I'd love to meet some of you regulars then, just to thank you for all the great information you've given over the years. I'll be getting to Palace on the 14th, probably in the early evening sometime. If you'd like to meet up, reply or shoot me a PM.
Thanks again for all your help fellas!
V
Store your stuff at the airport. No sense in bothing the people and Palace and why risk the chance of getting your stuff lost or stolen.
If you only have a medium to small bag, then you can leave it at the front desk. I have been known to do that in the past when traveling lightly.
Cheers,
Dedalus
Hello all,
I will visit The Palace on next Tuesday in the morning (10.0 to 12.0 am) and for my first visit I need information concerning the best ladies to meet in this dreamy space.
After a look on the website of The Palace, I noticed that most of the girls present on this website have no evaluation on WSG!
So I wonder if they are really present in this FKK?
Please help me for me having a good moment in Franfort.
Stéphane
Hi Rich,
Between 10 and 12 on Tuesday morning I suggest you take whatever you can get your hands on. You will not have many to choose from at that time of day.
I've seen some of the girls that are on the website, but other I do not recall. Sasha has been mentioned before. I did a session with Biene at Atlantis 2 years ago. The most memorable think of that experience was that the condom broke and we did not realize until I came, which was quite a shock to both of us (I was actually relieved by her shock as it meant she was very worried about her health).
Maike had some decent reviews (don't remember if on this board or somewhere else).
Looking at the site now, I see that Biene is actually not displayed anymore so I guess they must be updating the site every now and then
Chivaz
Rich,
Try Natalie, little czech girl with curly blond hair.
I speak about her a little further in this section
Enjoy
You can even find pictures of Natalie in a Viagrant's post of 05/15/05
She's a real GFE and a great f...
Enjoy
Dadou,
Are you sure Natalie is still working at Palace? Did not see her the last couple of times I was there. If she is still there, I agree with your recommendation. She is a pretty good selection.
Chivaz
Dear Chivaz,
You seem to have a great experience of this FKK, if Nathalie is not there. Which girl do recommand to me? Give me few names or descriptions.
Regards.
Richardson
Chivaz,
Last time I saw her there was 2 months ago. I hope she still works there. Otherwise we HAVE to figger out where she works now.
Maybe u didn't see her because u went there in the evening.
I think she works from wednesday to saturday from 11 am till 8 pm.
Dadou
I had my first session with Natalie during the end of the third week of April '05. That was about 5 weeks ago. I distinclty remember the time was an hour on either side of midnight, not early. So she does seem to vary her work schedule. I've seen her many times there before I got around to sessioning with her (bad mistake on my part --should have gone to a room with her back in January when she started flirting with me, but at that time I had other interests at Palace...). Often I've seen her working up to and slightly beyond 22.00.
Hi mate,
I will be arriving to Frankfurt within few days ,is it worth to have a look to FKK PALACE or try to see FFK35? I'm looking for good looking ladies :)
Thanks and waiting for your answer,
Cheers
[QUOTE=Ortos]I had my first session with Natalie during the end of the third week of April '05. That was about 5 weeks ago. I distinclty remember the time was an hour on either side of midnight, not early. So she does seem to vary her work schedule. I've seen her many times there before I got around to sessioning with her (bad mistake on my part --should have gone to a room with her back in January when she started flirting with me, but at that time I had other interests at Palace...). Often I've seen her working up to and slightly beyond 22.00.[/QUOTE]
If you are limited to Frankfurt city, Palace is the best choice.
If you have a day off - or at least 6-8 hours time in the evening - you could try FKK-World. Some of the Starlight-Ladies are working there regularly at the moment. I ran into Ania, Anita, Jola, Monika and Viktoria of SL last sunday. And there are lots of great other ladies, too.
Just have a look at the FKK World section.
Have fun,
Novize
If I read your question right, and I admit I am slightly stoned at the moment, you are saying that in a few days you will find yourself in Frankfurt in a potentially horny condition, yes? And you are asking whether it is worthwhile to have a stop in a place like Palace to look for some nice girls to perhaps satisfy your inner desires, yeah? Well, I've meditated on the matter and have come up with this answer:
If you crave carbs, go eat some pasta! You're in Frankfurt and want sex: Head to Hausen, young man! Go get it! It is waiting for you. Better yet, got to Oase in Burgholzhausen first and have a taste there. Then, if that doesn't float your boat, hit Palace in Hausen and party late into the night. That would be my recipie for fun in Frankfurt in June.
Btw: Forget FKK35. It is dead...
Ortos
I visited Palace today, but no Natalie. I saw her a couple of weeks ago and she told me she works everday except for Sundays. I hope today was just an exception....
Thanks mate,
Good stuff, I will follow your instruction :)
Cheers
[QUOTE=Novize]If you are limited to Frankfurt city, Palace is the best choice.
If you have a day off - or at least 6-8 hours time in the evening - you could try FKK-World. Some of the Starlight-Ladies are working there regularly at the moment. I ran into Ania, Anita, Jola, Monika and Viktoria of SL last sunday. And there are lots of great other ladies, too.
Just have a look at the FKK World section.
Have fun,
Novize[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Novize]If you are limited to Frankfurt city, Palace is the best choice.
If you have a day off - or at least 6-8 hours time in the evening - you could try FKK-World. Some of the Starlight-Ladies are working there regularly at the moment. I ran into Ania, Anita, Jola, Monika and Viktoria of SL last sunday. And there are lots of great other ladies, too.
Just have a look at the FKK World section.
Have fun,
Novize[/QUOTE]
Novize,
I enjoy your informative reports. I will arrive around 1030 in the morning on a Wednesday later this month and will leave 12 hours later. I am planning on going to Palace for most of the time. Do you have any advice as to the best time to be there? Would there be any reason to go to the RLD before or after Palace? Or should I just stay most of the time at Palace? Should I get a hotel to refresh at first before heading to play?
Thanks
[QUOTE=Valiant2]Novize,
I enjoy your informative reports. I will arrive around 1030 in the morning on a Wednesday later this month and will leave 12 hours later. I am planning on going to Palace for most of the time. Do you have any advice as to the best time to be there? Would there be any reason to go to the RLD before or after Palace? Or should I just stay most of the time at Palace? Should I get a hotel to refresh at first before heading to play?
Thanks[/QUOTE]
Why would you even think of going to the RLD, before Palace? Why walk into the McDonalds before you go dine at the Ritz? Go to Frankfurt, settle into your hotel room, chill out, get comfortable with the vibe of the city, then head to Palace. The scene at Palace is vastly different after 20.00: That's when the place really gets going. So if you arrive earlier and think the place is dead, just wait till the night before you write the place off.
Or even better, skip the hotel and go straight to Palace. They serve ok lunch there. Relax, eat, have some sauna etc. You can even have a very good massage there, both regular type and Turkish bath type.
You can freshen up at Palace. They have good facilities and nice lockerrooms.
I agree with Ortos about the RLD. Only go for sex there if you like it unclean, bad smelling and ripoffs.
If I would have a 12 hour layover during the day at this time of year, I would personally head for Oase because of the outdoor facilities (specially if the weather is nice). From the airport, the trip is not that much longer than to Palace.
Chivaz
Do exactly as Chivaz suggests. Do not pass GO! Do not waste your money and time checking in to a hotel. Use them instead for more fun in the FKK sun.
You can refresh by counting naked women women as they frolic in the sun all around you (at Oase) or as they saunter by you and tweak your woody. It's the real man's way to relax...
You just may miss (accidentally of course) your ongoing flight....
I too always forgo my final night in the hotel and go to the club, usually FKK World, for an all nighter, and at closing time 4 AM make my way to the airport where I usually have no trouble sleeping on the flight home. I leave my bag at the Hauptbahnhof or sometimes if it is a small one they watch it for me behind the desk at FKK World.
beffen
Hey guys,
I am planning to have a vacation visiting FKK clubs June 21 thru June 25. Is there any reason (like major fairs, events etc.) that I shouldn't visit Palace, Oase, World that week and weekend? Any other advice?
Enjoyed my vacation so much last year, can't wait! Thank you guys for so much informational and fun posts! I promise to post my trip reports this time.
I have a question that hopefully some of you seasoned pros can help me with. What do you guys talk to the girls about! I've been to the Palace a handful of times and I find it hard to make small talk with the girls. I look around and everyone is sitting with a girl talking. For some reason, that doesn't happen with me. The language barrier is a problem sometimes, but even the girls that speak enough english rarely sit and talk. I know they must get tired of the same questions, ie: Where are you from? How long have you worked here? How old are you?, so I try to avoid questions like that, but what does that leave? Help me out, guys!
Thanks,
Jaas
I can´t think of any reason not to visit these clubs - except for the one that it might be expensive. ;)
Have fun,
Novize
Gino,
No trade fair I can see. That is usually pretty easy to tell just by going to a hotel site like hrs.de and seeing whether hotels are insanely expensive.
Jaas,
You are avoiding the questions that bring everyone into conversation. If you don't ask her where she is from, how old she is and how long she has been doing this job then you have no chance to find something to start conversation on.
Often the girls want to hear about some of the other clubs around and your experiences there. They sort of want to know whether there are other clubs where they might earn more money, or maybe they are wondering whether there are other clubs where there are a lot more customers, or whether business is slow all over the place.
If you find out where they are from maybe you know something about the area, and they like to talk about that. Maybe they want to know what life is like where you are from.
Sometimes I ask the girls what other job they do or what job they did before this. Or talk to them about their clothes or their hairdo. Just be honest and find something that makes her interesting. Talking to these girls is just like talking to any girl, you have to find something the two of you can talk about.
I mean I have had the odd girl with whom I have discussed Schopenhauer or Catholic Theology and the importance of the Rosary. Sometimes they have asked me for advice on their investments and their life insurance policies, or whether I know someone who can help them get a good deal on a kitchen for their new appartment.
topics present themselves, but the "what's your name, age, nationality, and how long have you been working here, have you worked somewhere else?" are the basis.
If you find it tough to continue a conversation with a given girl, there is a good chance the session won't be great.
I often talk to the girls about food !! usually starts when they laugh and poke my fat belly! Girls from the former communist countries almost always love their food even if they are very thin, and love to talk about it, guess cos they were all so poor and a bit hungry growing up.
I just have been this monday in the Palace. There was not a lot of visitors and even not the high number of girls as usual. For that reason I got enough from the buffet dinner:-) Scaned out the palace world around 30 minutes, quiet intresting just to see what is happening: There are a lot of rip-off girls trying to do their job as fast as possible, eg. went back after five to ten minutes already back from the room. After I went to the cinema and got the company of Ania. I think Ania is around 27 years old, not a model, but nice and sexy, from the eastern part of Germany. I was quiet careful after all I have seen but she had no stress at all. We start to talk, after ten minutes, she started with other things, finally after a half hour we ended up in the room. In the room we spent near to two hours with all a men want, nice GFS, kissing, BBBJ, anal etc. There was nearly no limits. All was done with a real high "professionality", better then a girlfriend could ever do it. After we went together shower. My surprise, she just asked EUR 150 (for 30 min. cinema, and two hours room). I went back to the bar, 15 minutes later she joined me again to give me a "bonus" blowjob on the sofa. She explained she loved the session herself very much... I think Ania is definitely a top girl to join, treat her well and you will get back very much!
This was my first visit to a FKK. It was a Friday night and it was the first time that I had rented a car in Germany. Drove down to Frankfurt and got lost in the city lanes as the vehicle I had did not have a GPS. Spent more than 2/3 hours driving around and finally managed to reach someplace near Palace identifiable in the map. It was almost 2 am when I reached the place. I had to debate on going back as I had a program next day early in the morning or to still visit the FKK since I did not have sufficient time. Decided to go in anyway. Entered and was greeted at the reception. Paid the entrance fee. The lady at the counter accompanied me, explained the process showing me the locker room, the showers.
Went into the locker room and after changing in to the towel, took a shower and moved into the center area. Looked around and found a lot of girls relaxing. While I was debating on my next course, one of the girls smiled and greeted me. Her name was Sonia and she spoke good English. She said she was of Italian origin settled in Germany. She was quite tall, a bit old, well built. After preliminary discussions we decided to go into the room. She offered the menu – standard BBBJ with FS one round for half hour for 50 Euro, Full options for 150 Euro. She wanted to push the 150 Euro and marketed it well enough (knowing that I was new to the FKK) for me to accept. Had a round with her with massage followed by BBBJ and FS. Tried another round, but was not successful. I also was tired and was not up for further action. Sonia said that she works on regularly at Palace except for Saturdays and Sundays. Had a shower and then moved out and drove back from Frankfurt. Though the first venture was not very successful, I really like the concept of FKK.
I will be arriving at the palace between 8pm and 9pm on a Sunday. Is this too late? How many girls will be there at this time? Any other suggestions for arriving late? thanks.
Sundays are not that great at Palace, but still ok. You probably have some 15-20 ladies present at 8/9 pm on Sunday. Don't expect a good variety after midnight on Sunday, it will probably drop to about 10 or less, but there may still be a few good ones to pick. Sundays are pretty laid back and nice though.
Depending on your transport options, you could also head for World or Oase. You would arrive about one hour later at World if you have a car. Last Sunday I had to leave World on a Sunday at 8pm and then the main room had quite a number of girls (probably about 20) and very few punters (4-5). It was pretty sweat and I hated having to leave with all these options.
Chivaz
I thank all of you senior members that have given freely such great advice regarding the Palace. I went there last Wednesday from 2pm until 7pm. I was pleasantly surprised regarding the variety and qualitity of the women there. Based on RTFF I had expected 6 to 8 ladies during this time and the number was actually around 20. I started out with a Romanian who was about a 7 in looks and service. I believe the session was probably about 20 minutes. She was quite a hustler and I saw her about every 15 minutes coming out of the rooms with someone.
MY next lady was a Greek and she was very nice, I had a complete half hour with her and really enjoyed it. I finished up doing my first ever session with two ladies at one time. They were both Cuban and quite attractive. One with B cups and the other D cups. It was also a shorter session than I care for, closer to 15 minutes than 30 minutes.
I also had a massage from a masseuse. The massage was not all that great.
Overall, i enjoyed the visit immensely. One problem that was quite a surprise to me was the temperature inside. Outside the temperature was around 85 degrees. Inside it was also around 85 degrees. The heat was oppressive and
would make me think twice about going there in the summertime.
Thanks for your report Valiant2.
That's too bad about the lack of A/C at Palace. I could have sworn it was air-conditioned, esp in the room last summer. I don't remember exactly, but I have the impression it was okay.
Oase recently A/C'd their new wing of rooms. It was quite appreciated in hot temps to retire to those cool rooms.
Tell us: Can you supply any names for the girls you saw. The Greek girl was called???? and the Cubans???
Thanks
If memory serves me right, there is no A/C, but some oversised fans in the rooms.
Ortos and Chivaz,
I talked with a very nice lady at the Reception Counter about the A/C and she said the A/C was on and pointed out one of the vents but said it just wasn't adequate for their needs on that day. I didn't notice any fans in the any of the rooms. As I said earlier, it really wasn't that hot outside. No more than 85 degrees.
Sorry I didn't list the names. I forget the name of the Romanian. She is an A-cup blond (frizzy long hair) about 5 feet five inches. She is very persistent and has a truly amazing tongue! The Greek's name was Anna and she said she had only been in Germanay two weeks. A sweet girl with brunette hair and a very positive attitude. The Cubans were Linda, an attractive brown haired beauty and her friend's name was Elly who was was very flashy, I loved her natural D's. Her butt was a little large.
[QUOTE=Ortos]Thanks for your report Valiant2.
That's too bad about the lack of A/C at Palace. I could have sworn it was air-conditioned, esp in the room last summer. I don't remember exactly, but I have the impression it was okay.
Oase recently A/C'd their new wing of rooms. It was quite appreciated in hot temps to retire to those cool rooms.
Tell us: Can you supply any names for the girls you saw. The Greek girl was called???? and the Cubans???
Thanks[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Chivaz]If memory serves me right, there is no A/C, but some oversised fans in the rooms.[/QUOTE]
A girl I was with the last time at Palace said there was not AC and that it can get very hot in the summer.
I was at the Palace last tues and wed. There was a good line up of girls. I spent time with 4 different girls.
One was a Romanian named Ambra ( I believe). She had a great little tan body, spoke good english, and had very nice lips. Her service was good. I would say a 7 in service, 8 in looks.
Another was a great little girl from Berlin. I failed to catch her name, but I wish I did. It was the best session I have ever had at an FKK. She spoke little english, but we definitely clicked. It was almost unbearable in the Palace due to the heat and she suggested we get in the big whirlpool. I have never been in there, but I willingly got in to escape the heat. I'm glad we did because we played around in there for about 30 minutes. She had a nice little body, nice small boobs, and a cute face. We then went to the room and banged each other silly. It was truely memorable. Very GFE.
The next was a threesome with the popular Cindy and her Polish friend. Anyone who knows who Cindy is knows it was a good session and her hot, big haired friend was just as nice. It was towards the end of the night when I approached Cindy and she asked if I would like a threesome with her friend. This actually kind of turned me off because I knew they were just hustling me. But, how could I refuse 2 hot ladies? It was good, but not the big spectacular blow out you might think. Maybe I'll try that one again earlier on in the night when everyone is a bit more randy.
All in all, a very good experience at the Palace, except for the heat.
Based on the recommendations of this board and the Frankfurt one, I went to the Palace on monday night late. I have to say after coming to Germany for 20 years on business I can't imagine why I never discovered this place.
I have never seen so many absolute beauties, all stark raving naked, down to the shaved pussies, walking around looking for someone to fuck them. Gents, I am not embellishing this review. I was stunned when I walked in, then in about 10 minutes a model type blonde walked up to me at the bar and stared playing with my balls, and the rest is history. Unbelievable GFE service, covered FS, uncover BBJ, and CIM for an extra 50. The room was 50 for Full Service. The girl was a hot little blonde from Romainia. I stayed until 0230 and had two other women. All great service and 8+ in the looks deptartment.
After recuperating for a couple days in the work grind, I returned to Frankfurt tonight, thursday, and repeated the fantasy-turned-reality again. words cannot describe the variety of women of exquisite beauty, GFE service. Did another three-bagger, and headed home tonight at 0200.
Wanted to give this review for all my fellow mongers out there. I appreciate the tips, and can only offer my experience here. Thanks to all.
One question: is there any place like this in Munich?
Ocean (in recuperation for the next week)
Glad it has the same effect on you too. :-)
Munich: try FKK Colosseum in Augsburg. I wrote a review a few weeks ago on the Other FKK Clubs thread.
[QUOTE=Oceanview]I went to the Palace on monday night late. I have to say after coming to Germany for 20 years on business I can't imagine why I never discovered this place. [/QUOTE]
Ocean,
Palace has only been opne in this form for about a year. So don't beat yourself up over the last 19 years before. Before Palace opened, however, there was Suddfass. This place has been around for a long time, but is not quite as good and permissive as an FKK. I would say that the whole FKK paradise that we have now started with (the now shut down) Atlantis and Oase in Burgholzhausen. Then FKK World opened 2 year ago. And now Palace completes the amazing triangle of Oase/FKKW/Palace that provides the best conditions for sex on the globe.
One can only hopw that these places will stay the way they are for a long time.
euro
Another trip to Palace on a Thursday night, which is change for me as I've usually only been there on a Monday evening. I had planned to go the night before as Palace was having a bunny girl party however work commitments prevented me from making the visit on the Wednesday. Was staying at the Novotel Frankfurt City West, which at €113 per night including breakfast, I certainly do not recommend. The hotel is having some repair work done and as a result the air conditioning was not working. This was not good, considering how hot it was over the week in Frankfurt. Cost of taxi from the hotel to Palace was €8.
Arrived at about 9:30pm, and it was pretty quiet. After the shower, headed straight to the main bar area. Sat down next to Ambra who was smiling at me. She is blonde, about 5ft 5in small tits and is Romanian. One of her tits had a mark across the nipple, which at first I thought was a bad implant job. However she explained that while trying to straighten out her hair using a heated tong, it slipped and hence the mark ! Her English is reasonable, enough so that she can converse and understand your needs. After finishing the drink, asked her to join me on one of the couches. As recommended by others and from my own experience, it’s worth making out with them first a little to assess the potential level of service you will get in the room. She cuddled, kissed and stroked the old fellow, so it was off to the room. First asked what type of service and I asked what’s on offer. She was trying for the €100 including CIM, but I just opted for the standard 30 min at €50. Excellent DFK and BBBJ with plenty of ball licking and around the groin area. Bit of DATY, was clean and fresh however this was mainly to lubricate her properly. Main event started with cowgirl and then missionary with tongues interlocked throughout. After the explosion, she cleaned me up and then I gave her a massage. Great service and definitely recommended.
There was still some food left after the 10pm buffet, so had some of that and relaxed on the swinging couch just girl watching. Moved over to the couches near the stage and after about 15-20 mins I was approached by Deborah. Sat next to me and cuddled up and starting kissing. Her English was excellent and I could not work out where she was from. She told me she is from Romania, has dark brunette hair, about 5ft 4in with small tits. As the music played she sat on top of me and gyrated away. This was certainly having an effect on me, so off we went to the rooms. Had to wait about 10mins, so made out some more while we waited. Room 11 became free and she was not happy with this. Asked me to have a look at room and if I was happy it would be ok for her. Checked out the room, which seemed fine to me, so off we went. In the room more DFK as we hit the bed. Before we started, she showed me her mobile phone and said look. I was confused at first, but then noticed the time. She said that she had some disagreements with some guys about the time, so now sets this straight before starting. Her service I can only describe as EXCELLENT. Plenty of DFK with BBBJ, deep throat and copious ball licking. Sex was several positions and she gives 110%. Guys this is one not to miss and if she is there next time I'm at Palace, she will be the first on the list.
Relaxed more and again just watched the action. Was approached by a few girls, but nothing took my fancy and more importantly needed to recover before the next adventure...which was Juliana from Cuba. Again she approached and sat on top of me and started some light kissing. Spoke enough English to communicate with plenty of Spanish in between ( from her only that is). I was getting a hard on as we made out on the couches, so off we went. The main rooms were all full, so we then tried the rooms near the kino. They were also full, so we waited and I continued to feel her up while waiting. Rooms were still full, so she then said lets try the rooms near the whirlpool. They are the rooms with just curtains near the main bar area. Its a bit weird in these rooms, as you hear everyone in the bar area and some people look through the gaps in the curtain as you doing the deed with the girl ! She started off with some DFK and then BBBJ, but quickly pulled out a condom. I told her slow down, as she blabbered in Spanish. Applied condom and continued the blow job. First was her on top, then reverse cowgirl, missionary, spoon and then to finish was doggy. Took ages to come and gave her a damn good workout. I was a bit disappointed with her as Ambra and Deborah provided a GFE, but Juliana seemed more like get them in and out as quick as possible, nevertheless a good fuck, but not a repeat.
Left at 1am and slept like a baby that night.
Hey Death Warrior,
Did Deborah and Ambra hang out a lot? When I was there, I noticed Ambra hanging out with another Romanian that was petite and dark haired. I didn't have the mojo left to try the brunette and was wondering if you were talking about the same one?
Thanks,
Jaas
Hi Jaas,
They did indeed hang around together near the bar area.
fkks are truly a wonder. as long as i have been in the hobby and as many times as i have been in germany, i have never had the opportunity to find my way into an fkk. that is until a recent trip with a one day layover in frankfurt. i decided to check into the ibis west frankfurt and stroll over to the palace to see what all the fuss was about. i was unprepared, but was still able to get it together. the entry fee was €65. i had dollars, there was no atm on site. i was told that they would take dollars, and it turned out to be 70¢ on the dollar. not the best rate, but i had been burned worse.
anastacia was a long-legged latvian with horn-rimmed glasses, black garter, and heels. we went into the cine and proceeded to make out in the front of the room. we began with a long daty session on her back that resulted in a squealing, shivering o. i mounted her mish and slowly rotated her legs over my head until she was almost to doggie. then i poured my all into her and rested on top with the sweat streaming off. someone in the back of the room clapped. she definitely earned her €50.
nina was a blonde russian girl with central asian features. it was obvious from her smell and taste that i was not her first customer. she was too sore to do anything other than french, and i was interested in more. i still paid her €50, even though we were together less than ten minutes and did not finish. i watched another couple locked in a vigorous doggie style and longed for a partner who would provide me the same.
i did not wait that long. yulia was also russian, very lovely, with fine brown hair down to her round ass and full perfect breasts. we went into the cine and this time went to the back. another long daty (i had a hard time talking after that) from behind. i admired her ass then mounted her standing doggie style, starting slowly, building up speed, and then pushed her to her knees, bouncing ass high in the air, my knees bent in a crouch. i lean over her, hold her breasts and feel that ass against my belly. she then made me a very satisfied customer for €50.
while leaving, i was asked if everything was ok. i said generally, yes, or ‘eth’ but mentioned the problem with nina. the manager, lily went back into the room. they did take it seriously enough to go back in, but nina was nowhere to be found. i returned the next day at 10 am, and was told that there was nothing that could be done about the situation.
the one disappointment was quickly overcome. in spite of the fees and and prices, and the one disappointing experience, i have to say that i would gladly return to the palace , better prepared and at hopefully with a more favorable rate of exchange.
Eeyore,
don't mean to be rude, but you picked your name right, you are a *******! I mean that in only the nicest way.
How can you come to germany over and over and never sample an FKK. Your schedule can never be that tight.
and when you come, why don't you have some €'s. You must have passed at least one ATM after the airport. Otherwise you could have paid with your Credit Card, and it would have been a 10% service charge, but given the exhange rate now is about 80cents on a Dollar, that plus the 10% comes out to the same thing.
The other thing you did wrong is you should have taken Nina straight to management when she refused sex. sex and BBBJ are standard service, and if she is refusing one for whatever reason, she has to let the customer know that before they go to the room.
Otherwise I hope you enjoy your next visits more, and are a little better prepared.
Peter--
I don't consider your comments rude at all. You are right on point.
Yes, I am a *******. It's obvious and I can't deny it.
Yes, I got burned on the exchange.
Bad planning on my part, no question.
The specifics of my itinerary I'd prefer not to share, other than to say that I was on a layover between one non-€ country to another non-€ country. My atm card didn't work, ok? Also, out of concerns for privacy, I prefer to keep my credit card out of it. K5 in Prague was much better for dealing with exchange rates & payment plans (despite the hoots from my report then as well), but the Palace had advantages that outweighed K5.
Yes, I will know better next time.
Thanks for the tip on a future situation I hope to avoid, but other readers might keep in mind.
Looking forward to my next visit.
Eeyore,
I like your style of honesty, self-effacing views if possible. I wish more of us could achieve this lofty goal. I attempt it, and sometimes succeed, sometimes not.
I must say, though, in all honest, when I read your report below, I thought to myself: Only a complete idiot would overnight in Frankfurt, fully cogniscent of the fkk possiblilities awaiting him that night, but fail to think ahead and carry sufficient quantities of Euro cash in order to avail himself fully of the true value-for-money opporntunities that await one inside the doors of a club like Palace. I was thinking: "Come on man! What are you smoking? Get me some!"
But I don't understand how your "ATM Card wasn't working?" There must be ump-teen ways to acquire Euro cash at reasonalble exchange rates 24hrs a day! The banks in Hbf close probably 21.00ish. At Frankfurt Flughaven, accessible from Hbf 24hrs a day via 3.10 S-bahn, there are banks with "decent" exchange rates. So what gives? He must have flown into Frankurt or arrived by train. Why did he not avail himself of the exchange facilities to gain proper buying power at Palace? Sorry, I also do not want to be rude. (I really would be interested to learn exactly which strain you are smoking, though? PM me????)
You do raise an interesting about comparing FKKs in Germany to K5 in Prague. Or rather pointing out that there is really no comparison between the two: FKKs win hands down!
Thanks for your report...
Ortos
Dear Ortos--
Thank you for the compliment.
To explain, try to put yourself in my situation.
1) I've never seen the almighty Yankee $ humbled so much in all my years of international work. Now is not the time and WSG is not the place for a harangue on the true idiots who have so screwed up USA fiscal & monetary policy.
2) My ATM card was denied at 3 machines, including at the Flughafen & Hbf. How many more times did I need to beat my head against that wall? The problem is cleared up now, at the time I had no idea what was going on.
3) My flight came in on a Saturday night, and I needed to leave Sunday morning. While there are places to make change 24/7 in Frankfurt, they are not on every corner, and I needed to make the most of my time. I figured I would check into my room, exchange $ for € at the hotel (not much better than the Palace) and make my way to the Palace.
4) The problem, ultimately, was not so much a question of what I was smoking as it was a simple matter of letting the little head do all the thinking. I was inside an FKK for the first time in my life, surrounded by incredible beauty and filled with a growing lust. What am I going to do?
Do I say, "Um, gee, that exchange rate is really bad. Let me hire a cab and go into town for a few hours while I find a place that will give me a better rate of exchange."?
Do I say, "Do you know who I am? Give me a better exchange rate or I will see that this place is erased from the map."?
Or do I say, "Here's my money. Let me at 'em!"?
As you might imagine, a fool and his money are soon parted. I'm not crying over my experience, I had all the buying power I needed & enough left over to get out of town. There's more where that came from. Agree with you--FKK Palace wins hands down. The point of the report is for people to make sure that they have enough of the proper currency. Believe me, I'm not leaving home again without a good sized stash of €s.
Well, it can happen. ON my last trip to Europe my credit card was also rejected. For no good reason, it turns out. My credit card compnay had only noticed that I suddenly wanted to charge in Germany, whereas during the previous months only charges in the US had been incurred. So they simply put a hold on the account. It took me a couple of days to clear it all up.
But really, Eeyore did not spend that much money. Even if he has exchange his dollars at two for one euro, it would still have been a bargain. FKKs are tremendous value for the money. All the food and drink you want for 65 euro, with all of the wellness stuff you can handle, and with a never-ending parade of naked and willing women to feast your eyes on. ... and other body parts, too, if you want, all for 50 euro a pop. Whoooooooooooooo
Eeyore, forget the exchange rate and focus on the essentials. Welcome to the FKK community. I predict you'll never go back to the RLD or any other option.
euro
Absolutely agree with you Euro100. The experience was well worth it, and next time will be even better. Appreciate the welcome.
I am going to Germany. It is to clear a doubt. Hope you wont mind. I recently heard of an Asian and black brotha thrown out a German FKK. Is there any racial descrimination. I am Asian.
Those credit cards can be fussy in Europe. My debit card works in Germany and Holland without fail- and they just instituted a 500 dollar a day limit so its great for mongering. It works swell on the ATM in FKK World, very handy indeed.
My no Hassles no fee credit card works all the time in Holland but I have never gotten it to work in Germany, even after notifying the company of the dates I will be travelling in advance and them giving me assurances. I even called once from Germany and again they assured me and again it wouldn't work. Thank heaven for the debit card.
Beffen
eeyore,
and don't limit yourseklf only to palace. there are a lot of other fkk's out there which are just as good or better, dpeending on the day and time you go.
Funny Kunna,
At the big clubs in and around Frankfurt (Palace, Oase, FKKW) race is definitely not an issue. Guys of all skin colors are let in and can be seen enjoying themselves. Same for girls. I don't doubt that these two guys you mentioned may have been thrown out, but I do doubt that it was because of their race.
Insied the FKKs, some girls definitely do have racial preferences when it comes to picking their partners. But then again, so do you and I. In the end, for most of the girls 50 euro is 50 euro, no matter who gives it to them.
euro
Kunna,
Travelling alone as an asian you will get inot any club you want. Racial discrimination usually only is targetted at larger groups from a nationality. If 5 russians or turks or greeks or whatever show up at the door together some clubs will turn down entry, saying they can get unruly. It is not so much the racial thing, as the group thing.
There are girls who will not go with nationalities. My Indian friends have troubles finding girls sometimes, but at the end of the day, most are in it for the money.
If they got thrown out of a club, they must have been acting like asses. If they didn't get let in at all it might actually be racial. The other thing is their own fault.
Turks for sure will get turned away from a club if the management doesn't like them. I doubt the same will go for blonde hair blue eyed Russians, the Russians can call the fatman if they run into a problem with the management.
I know a lot of clubs that have turned away groups of russians. Even if they are members of the mob, those people know when to cause trouble, and when not too. Not getting let into a brothel as a group is not a reason to do something to have people take notice of them.
I'll echo what Peter said. If you go by yourself or just with 1 or 2 friends, I don't see a problem.
There is 1 thing that works in our favor (or maybe not), there's that stereotype that we're rich and we're generous with our money. So many of them might think that they can load up on all the 'extras' or maybe get a big tip. The good thing is that that might earn you some extra attention at the front end but maybe get a dirty look if you only hand her a 50 at the back end.
I got a couple of funny stories about girls' preferences. I fancied a German girl when I was at Goldentime and I flagged her over for a chat. She was very chilly with the initial conversation even though she spoke very good English. I fought through the bad vibes and decided to take her to the room anyways 'cos she was pretty hot. After a very good sweaty 90 minute 2 pop session, we were laying there having a post coital smoke. She actually apologized for her initial cold attitude because she usually didn't much care for asians guys because in all her previous experiences they were very boring, had small willies and hence she couldn't enjoy herself, and last (this is the funniest one) all of them had very bushy pubes that made it unpleasant for her to do a BJ! Which she quickly appended with a compliment that I suffered none of those 3, er... shortcomings.
One other time when I bumped into a girl at the Palace I'd previously had sessions with at Oase and Sylt in Nuremberg. East German girl. My memory had been hazy as to my previous encounters with her... I think we just pretty much went to the room both times and not much talking. But I guess that by the time we met at Palace she starts talking with me like we were long lost old friends and let me tell ya. She was SERIOUSLY racist going on and on and on about Jews, Turks, Arabs, blacks, etc. and the trouble they cause locally, worldwide, you name it! Didn't seem to have much of an opinion on Asians but I suspect it was only because she was talking to me. But I wonder what caused her to spill all those beans? Never had another session with her despite numerous other visits there. Maybe it had something to do with her opinions, but mostly because she'd since packed some serious weight. Either way it's always best to view these situations with curiosity rather than get offended by them. No reason to ruin a perfectly nice day at an FKK, right?
Anyways, shave your nads, don't act like a stereotypical Asian, go, treat the girls well and have a good time!
FKK,
You are right. The difference with Goldentime, PHG ad the clubs around Düsseldorf is that the asians they normally get there are the Japanese that live in Düsseldorf. There are soemthing like 30,000 japanese in that town, making it the largest population outside of Japan or soemthing like that. They do have the bushy pubes (not sure about the short willies, but many women claim that - but then again germans have huge schlongs) and might be boring in the room, and might be big spenders.
So american Asians are generally a little different.
So shave the nads, trim the pubes, and use a penis pump to make your willy big.
And if you ever want to go to a place with the most racist prostitution in the world, try Asia. In Japan they won't let any foreigners anywhere near brothels, because all foreigners have aids. They will not even let black people or Indians into any discotheque.
In Hong Kong you pay different prices depending on the nationality of the girl (the lighter the nationality the more you pay - white russians cost double a local HK girl and more than 3 times a Thai or Malay girl - they don't even offer Indians - because they claim that they smell funny and have so much hair), and when you order a girl they say extra "for a foreigner" on the phone, and most girls turn away even white foreigners. Indians and Blacks will never find a partner (I saw one who was turned away by 15 girls in a row).
Compared to that the minor racism you might get by a girl in a FKK is minimal. Remember that the service expectation of the girl is to kiss the customer and give him a BBBJ. I am not racist, but there are nationalities where I would be willing to do that to less than 1% of the population, and there are nationalities where I just think their experience with hygiene is just closer to my expectation.
FKK, if you're Asian and all you got from an Ossi are racist remarks about other groups, consider yourself lucky. If you have ever been to East Germany, there are thousands of Neo-Nazi skinheads there. I actually was traveling around Magdeburg a few years ago, and a saw a HUGE demonstration of skinheads. There is a lot of unemployment in the East German states, I have heard of rates has as high as 30 percent. If you're not white, you won't want to hang around East Germany. West Germans are a different story, in comparison to the East the economic situation is better(a lot of unemployed people in the West too), they tend to travel a lot, especially to developing countries, so they can be somewhat more pc. West Germans remind me of people I meet in California and the West Coast in terms of their sociopolitical attitudes, more liberal than people from the Northeast US, which aren't really liberal in my experience.
The pattern I have seen in Europe, is that the further East you travel, the more conservative the people become towards "outsiders". Russia, is one of the most racist places you can visit, I have known a lot of Russian people who openly make nasty comments about blacks, Asians, Arabs, and Jews. Many will even admit that if you are a member of any of these ethnic groups you can expect some nasty treatment from the locals.
As far as Asians I did notice quite a few around Bonn, but I believed they were Vietnamese. The Japanese usually carry themselves in an aristocratic flair, living in the Asia Pacific region for five years, its easy for me to discern different Asians from their behavior and appearance.
Peter's comments about racism in Japan and HK are spot on, they don't like foreigners there.
peter,
fyi the largest concentration of japanese living outside japan is sao paulo brazil. dusseldorf has the largest concentration in europe. maybe you can find me a good sushi bar there on my next visit.
no question the level of bigotry in asia is much higher than any country in western europe with perhaps a few exceptions. it wasn't exactly my intent to debate you on who is more racist, since on that point you're pretty much preaching to the choir. i thought i'd just chime in with a couple of interesting encounters i had and give funny kunna a couple of tips in the process.
frankly while cbgb's rep001tered thoughts on world socio-political-economic trends and interracial relationships might be entertaining to read, i'd rather be encouraging people to trim their bush to receive better oral service. ;)
fl
Well, let me chime in here. ;)
Most men do not like to give DATY when we feel like we are tongue-lashing an afro-do. That's why almost all providers shave their pubic areas. In my opinion there is nothing more enjoyable then giving a clean shaven pussy the tongue-shlocking treatment. Sucking down hairs makes me gag. No good. :(
Sooooo ... let's extend the same courtesy to the girls. And remove at least part of the wilderness that can grow around our little decision makers. Makes for a much better BBBJ! :)
Word of caution, though! From an infectious desease standpoint the following is not advisable: shave and right away go to have sex with a provider. The act of shaving the pubic areas creates very small cuts all over the skin in this part of the body. And this makes for much greater exposure and transmission probability of STDs.
So if you shave, I recommend that you do it a couple of days before heading for the club.
euro
Well I love diving too. Can anyone give me info on any latinas in the Palace?
Brasilian, Colombian etc.
Names and details please.
Cheers
There are some latinas:
Maria, DomRep, former Atlantis-Girl. Professional but good.
Kati, DomRep, also former Atlantis-Girl. Professional but good, on holiday.
Jennifer, DomRep, also former Atlantis-Girl. Good session.
Alice, DomRep, young, good, has her own mind, on holiday.
Lisa, Cuba, also former Atlantis-Girl. Good session.
Amy, DomRep, blonde but dark skin. Soft, average.
Have fun.
Hessen Bub
Hessen Bub,
Thanks for the update on Palace's impressive Latina contingent. Hard to find a group with higher service levels on average, wouldn't you agree?
Earlier this year I was happily surprised to meet Laura from Dom. Republic (formerly Atlantis, Oase) at Palace. Any sign of her lately? I'll be back in the area next week and would love to know. She mentioned a possible stint at a new or relatively new place in Munich whose name I forget.
Gracias,
T
Will be in fkft friday night. what is the best line up at the moment? OASE or Palace? How does it compare to normal period (this one being holydays for most of Europeans and Germans in particular)
Ahhh, racist issue at FKKs.
Hey, I have Japanese blood and got Asian looks (I live in California), but never felt I was discrimated by any girls at FKKs (only 5 visits). Rather, they often mentioned they actually like Japanese businessmen since they are usually nice and not pushy (and they pay well!). Not sure about pubic hair, small dick, but I often heard from some others that many do not like hairly dudes.
As for some other races, everyone has opinions, but Europe are way less PC, compared to the US. Some girls straight-forwardly say that they don't like Arabs and Turks, since they often treat women like shit, are very pushy or try to do more and pay less. I would not call this racism, since they also have choices, like we, clients, do. In the end, this is their work, not hobby (unlike for us.). As far as you treat them nice with smile and pay what you are supposed to pay, it should be OK.
I am a foreignern and an Aisan there, so I expect some difficulties, but so far so good. So, I say Go there and just enjoy the scene!
As far as racism in Japan go, they actaully do like foreigners!! Yeah, of course, some massage places say no to foreigners (including Chinese), but this is because some foreigners have behaved very very badly (or simply the ladies do speak only japanese). I have seem some gaijin (what they call foreigners) acting like they owned the country and acting like a real dumb ass...If I were the manager, of course I refuse their entry, even in the US (or my bouncer would) .
Oh, this is off topic, but the biggest concentration of Japanese in Euro is actually London. Japanses usually do not stick around (they go back to Japan once their business is done, unlike the others).
Cheers,
Ty
Now this is really interesting, punter-related stuff. We're waiting for your words of wisdom, CBGB. Come on now, fella, don't disappoint.
Palace on friday evening
Very quiet. 20 girls maybe 25. No Cindy, no Natalie. Almost boring.
15 bald german guys with big tatoos came and were served vodka : maybe the owner's friends ???
Very weird atmosphere.
I had 2 sessions : The first one with Inga, pretty lituanian blonde. Very good BBBJ in the kino then in the room to finish with a CIM.
Second session with a little dominican girl. Good BBBJ also in the kino then she sat on me without me asking for anything and she did a very energic rodeo. I must say that it was very exciting to do that in the kino in front of everybody.
I went to bed at 4am at the Ibis hotel nextdoor (56 euros).
I had a good time but not as good as at Oase the next day. Oase was full of chicks : 40 to 50 !!! I think it's the best club.
[QUOTE=Dadou29]Palace on friday evening
Very quiet. 20 girls maybe 25. No Cindy, no Natalie. Almost boring.
15 bald german guys with big tatoos came and were served vodka : maybe the owner's friends ???
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Maybe pimps? One of the girls pointed out the pimps to me once. I wouldn't think an FKK girl would need one, but apparently many do.
I don't think most FKK girls are racist, there have been issues on occasion with large groups of Turks and Arabs(I have seen these guys pick fights with people in the hauptbahnhofs), who are seen as aggressive. Yes, Europeans aren't very pc, whatever the hell that is anyhow. As long as you don't look like a bum or a hoodlum, you should not be denied entry.
You have to be kidding me about Japan, they are racist as hell, the average Japanese person I met is more xenophobic than an East German skinhead. The women there are ugly, the country is expensive, its not an enjoyable place. A lot of Japanese whine about Australians as being racist, this is hardly the case(you will find a few Rednecks in rural locales), I know a lot of people of non-European ancestry who live in Australia and very few find Australia to be an intolerant or racist society.
[QUOTE=Dadou29]Palace on friday evening
Very quiet. 20 girls maybe 25. No Cindy, no Natalie. Almost boring.
15 bald german guys with big tatoos came and were served vodka : maybe the owner's friends ???
Very weird atmosphere.
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Probably co-owners of a rival club in Pohlheim.
Dedalus
FKK Palace
Well after a six days sojourn in Brazil (see rio thread fro more info) I had a one overnight stay in Frankfurt. I was confused as which FKK I should go to but my friend Toscana was, as usual, very helpful in his pm. So off to FKK Palace. I set as stipulated in the directions on this board and for 3.40E I found myself at Industriehof. I saw the seven foot wall to my right and crossed the railway tracks. I misunderstood the direction and walked all along the wall. But no! In the middle of the wall there is a three foot space and it is from here that you should walk. Walk for three minutes or less come to a roundabout, continue straight and after 30 seconds take the first turn left. FKK is infront of you. There are some road works a present but this should be a problem. I entered and when I told them that it was my first time the receptionist told me the rules which are by now well-known. Then another staff member (female) led me to the showers. It was 18.00 on a Friday. As soon as I came out of the showers with a towel around my waist I was gobsmacked. The place is truly up-standard. The decorations are out of this world. I went to the bar munching an apple from the bountiful fruit trays. There were few girls at that time. I ordred a coke and pinched myself to make sure that I was not dreaming for a sipped my coke naked ladies with towels in their hands began arriving one by one and sitting around. My plan was to have two shots but socialise as much as possible for the fun of it. After talking to handful I met Daniela a fake blond who is from Sicily but speaks German very fluently. I was going to take her into a room but her face was not appealing next to others. I wanted to contact a great looking blond with gravity defying boobs. She wore sone cream-coloured chifon around her ass. Never got to speak to her as she was very very popular. Next I set my eyes on a blond Polish lass whose name escapes me. She was 9 and a half in my books but 25 seconds in the conversation she asked whether I wanted a threesome with her friend who is also blond. A vulture I said to myself and excused myself. I really do not know how time went by but it was 20.00 when I met Katherina (Maria Katherina?) from Russia with highlighted blond hair whose red lipstick reminded me of Gwen Stefani. In fact her face was nothing out of this world but she was nice and loving. We kissed and invited her to go to a room. Of course she obliged but all rooms were full. At this point I asked her if it was ok for her of we did in the porn film room (kino?). She smiled and said 'no problem'. We went to the porn film room, took a seat at the back, and a very good bbj commenced. I enjoyed looking at her silhoutte and behind her the porn film. As I was going to come I motioned her to put the condon on and sit on me. To my surprise the condom was on already. Am I getting too old for this? But I did not complain because I was enjoying myself. I came after a few thrusts. Despite the condom trick I would say that I enjoyed myself tremendously and she was very nice and goo eye contact througout. It was my first FKK experience was I may be biased. Afterwards, I settled on the couch drinking coke and I was going to talk to another blond when a girl from the Domincan Republic approached me. I do not remember her name. I told her that I was looking for a blond after six days in Brazil. She replied, very confidently, that she was not from Brazil and that she will give me sex like no other. I flirted back and found that I like her charm and attitude. She was very direct but in a flirty way. So off with her. On the bad side all eye contact was lost once we entered the tent next to the whirpool but I have to say that she gave me a good run for my money. So, very professional but I must say that she does her job well.
So that was it. One thing which struck me is the atmosphere and that for 65 Euros entry you can drink as much as you want and eat a very generous buffet which was good. This is cheap is you sat more than five hours and dirt cheap if you stay all day and night. From my limited experience this FKK venture was the best mongering experience of my life. Hopefully I will have the opportunity to return
Johnny,
I completely agree with you that FKKs are the best mongering environment there is. I have had many trips to Rio, and Rio is great. But from a value standpoint, Rio cannot compete with one of the top FKKs.
euro
Hello i've a free night in frankfurt area, be4 landing in Riga, can you suggest me where i've to go this saturday night?
world? palace? oase?
tnx
I suggest you go to Palace, it is the nearest and also problably the best(speaking in terms of girls).
Unless there is a warm summer day and you are there early in Frankfurt, you can enjoy the great outdoor facilities in either oase or world. Oase can be reached with public transport, but I would not try World by public. Then you better rent a car
Good luck
I deeply miss the wonderful Miriam (ex Atlantis), she is a pole about 23 years and 165cm with dark shouldlong hair. Have anybody met her in Palace recently?
Ronnie
There used to be a blonde girl named Miriam (shortish blonde hair) who originally worked at Oase, then went to Atlantis during it's last year of operation, but before Atlantis folded she joined the original crew of the prive house Starlight Ladies outside Bad Homburg. She may have made intermittent appearances at FKK Beach, then presumably went back to Starlight. I've never heard of her working at Palace, but presumably if she were to work anywhere now it would be at the new FKK-Malibu, which is affiliated with the ownership of Starlight/Beach?
Anyway, I don't know if we are speaking about the same Miriam, because the one I know was Czech I thought, not Polish. But she was a very good provider!
The Miriam working at Starlight Ladies and FKK-Malibu is another Miriam than the one Ronnie seeks for.
Sorry I have no information about "Ronnie´s Miriam".
Have fun,
Novize
Maybe Friday night last week when I was there is a very off night, but it defintely had some of the ugliest girls I have seen in any club in a long time.
On Friday I went to Colosseum in Augsburg, followed by Palace and then Oase. The next day I went to Wildenrath.
Best talent by a long shot was Oase (not even close) then wildenrath (at least Naomi (Who I went with for the first time in 2 years and she was great) then colosseum, and then way back palace, where I had real problems finding any single girl among 40 who I even thought passable. The lighting is dark like Atlantis and they know why.
I saw some women with Cellulite on their stomachs, that is really fat.
But maybe it was an off night.
Went there recently on a Saturday afternoon. I somewhat know the German FKK scene, and update my "knowledge base" on a regular basis.
Palace is a NO GO. The surroundings are just OK, and the drive from the Frankfurt Airport convenient (9 Km = 6 miles), but the lack of talent is appealing.
Manners, looks, attitudes need a definite improvement.
A firm "Don't waste your time there".
Have fun
drainaps,
I don't know that I would be so quick to condemn Palace. After all, put your solo visit into some perspective: You visited one time during the absolute worst season for an indoor, winter-oriented FKK club like Palace.
Like you, I remain a real fan of the now-dead Atlantis. During previous winter/spring visits to Palace I thought the selection at times equaled that of the old Atlantis, whilst the facilities and rooms and gereral set up, to me at least, far exceed the old Atlantis. The Palace kino-zimmer is something Atlantis never had.
And I have observed superb selection at Palace during winter and spring, esp. in/around Messe events.
So I can believe you had a bad experience there and saw nothing of liking during the height of the summer --when most of the male guests are not in circulation, nor are many of the holiday-making girls.
If I could be so bold, I might suggest you go back in a few months or so and then pass judgement on the place.
Guys is the palace really that bad? im due to fly out on friday for a visit there my friend went a couple of months ago and said it was heaven.
Is it just so quite or are the girls just money hungry?
I did get a real atlantis feeling out of the place, and I have to agree that the facilities there are better than Atlantis's were. The food was the best I have had in any club, and I believe the lineup can change in the winter. I will try again in that season.
I heard a rumor that Cindy was back. This would be good incentive to do some Palacing.
Cheers,
Dedalus
Ortos,
I only didn't mention that it was not my first visit to Palace. It's at least the third one, and I concede, not close to any Messe Events, so I take your point on that as being a significant driver on talent available.
Still, you shall concede that "worst case scenario" talent at Palace is close to Armageddon? And that this is usually never the case with other Clubs?
I have been to Oase on Tuesday Mornings, to find, alas, a limited selection, but then still something worthwile, and believe me, I'm not a very difficult guy to please.
If I were to rate Palace and the others close to Frankfurt after my recent visits, World comes first, Oase a solid second and Palace an even more solid last.
The Palace is a "no go"?!?! NO WAY!! I have been several times and I love the place. I stay in Frankfurt a couple of times a year and don't have the luxery of venturing out of town to visit the other clubs, but this in no way means I am settling for The Palace. I think everyone is due a lack luster visit to anywhere. I'm positive you had an unlucky experience and I urge you to give it another try.
Good luck!
Jaas
I notice that a lot of the FKK menus have "french total". I think that "french" is BBBJ so is "french total" BBBJTC?
I believe that means you get bbbj and french kissing.
Or franzosiche totale is BBBJTC with come in mouth/ on face. Plus you get French fries when you are done ;-). I costs 50 euro extra in the Frankfurt clubs and 25-50 euro in NRW area sauna clubs.
beffen
JustGotBack:
Your guess is correct. "french total" is BBBJTC, that is to say a blob job without condom until you come in her mouth. What she does with your juice is up to her. Most spit it out into a paper towel. Usually, this sevice is 50 euro extra.
euro
Quote:""french total" is BBBJTC, that is to say a blob job without condom until you come in her mouth. "
Euro 100 -
Wow that's a new service. LOL
Iseeu,
I don't get the meaning of your post. Are you saying that you were not aware that the girls offer this service? It is pretty much inductry standard.
Like I said, maybe I don't get it ...
Cheers
euro
I think Iseeu referred to the "[B]blob[/B] job", (see his headline), which indees would be a completely new service.... :)
Don´t worry, that happens to all of us from time to time... ;)
Have fun,
Novize
So, what this episode shows is that I can neither type nor read! Too much *****-mongering is not good for the brain.
euro
Actually, too much ****-mongering is great for the brain - you just have to learn to keep all that sticky white fluid away from your keyboard! :-;
Does anyone know the present location of a Polish provider named "Cora" who used to work at Atlantis? Black Hair, middle aged, very talented.
She found another club after Atlantis closed.
Thanks,
Mahaba
Are those Lithuanian (Marina, Daniella and the others) still in PALACE? Have anyone seem them lately?
It seems like Aug is a bad month for PALACE. The last time I was there back in the early July, some said they will be away in Aug (for vacation or for going back to the regular jobs - whatever that means).
If someone has been there recently and saw them, please let me know. I am going back there in the early September.
Thanks
I met some of the best looking women I have ever seen in FKKs during the month of August. In actuality some of the worst women I have seen during October through December. The weather IS SHIT during those months in Germany, rain and more fucking rain. Did you know there is a town in Austria by the name of Fucking??? I want to go to Fucking, Austria!!!! Yeeehaaaah!!!
Sunny: longish curly hair that is darker brown near the scalp and gets lighter brown the further away it gets from the scalp, pale skin, firm B/C cups, speaks almost no English, national origin unknown. I picked her because it was early afternoon on a Sunday so the choices were few, she was the cutest, and she had been the busiest. Not a good choice. No kissing, no BJ, fake moaning during CFS. The only things in her favor were her looks and her vaginal tightness. Not recommended.
Julia: ponytail-length blonde hair, golden tan, Chinese characters tattoed along her spine on the lower half of her back, perky A/B cups with thick long chewy nipples, really pretty face and good teeth, speaks decent business English, Romanian. Not new to this profession (in it for about a year) but new to this club. Nice kissing, BBBJ, 69, and CFS in all positions. Recommended if you don't mind feeling like you're with a pro rather than the girl next door.
[QUOTE=Dadou29]Palace on friday evening
I went to bed at 4am at the Ibis hotel nextdoor (56 euros).
[/QUOTE]
Somewhat off-topic, but is this Ibis Hotel a good place to stay?
Thanks,
V.
[QUOTE=Viagrant]Somewhat off-topic, but is this Ibis Hotel a good place to stay?
Thanks,
V.[/QUOTE]
Its not the Ritz, but it is comfortable and, of course, very Palace friendly:-)
Breakfast is usually not included and even if it were, most Ibis Breakfasts are not worth the extra costs.
Cheers,
Dedalus
"Julia: ponytail-length blonde hair, golden tan, Chinese characters tattoed along her spine on the lower half of her back, perky A/B cups with thick long chewy nipples, really pretty face and good teeth, speaks decent business English, Romanian. Not new to this profession (in it for about a year) but new to this club. Nice kissing, BBBJ, 69, and CFS in all positions. Recommended if you don't mind feeling like you're with a pro rather than the girl next door."
Gee, this description describes one of World's stalwart Romanian regulars to a tee. I would speculate that this is Julia who has worked at World for about two years now and who sometimes moonlights at Palace on off days like Sundays. Many of us who "did" her at World, were glad we'd sessioned with her once, but it always became a "been there, done that" kind of thing...
About Ibis: Dedalus is correct, it is just a standard, chain hotel that gives decent clean rooms for decent prices. One should mention that there are three Ibis hotels in Frankfurt: one just around the corner from Palace, another about a 5-minute walk from Hbf.
I have just recovered from my last visit to Palace. A week after my visit, I had burning sensations while pissing, and a continuous nasty white discharge. A visit to the medical lab diagnosed gonhorrea.
I was at the Palace in early August, and went with two women. One was a dark haired, dark skinned woman from the Dominican Republic. She was quite pushy, in her mid to late thirties. I cannot remember her name. The other was a young Rumanian girl, with bleached blond hair. Again, I do not remember her name.
I sent them an email complaining, but so far, no reply. Catching an STD is no fun, and this was certainly my last visit to the Palace!
Any other similar stories?
David,
First of all, thanks for the alert.
As a pretty regular FKK visitor, I am aware of the risk and accept it. I would not judge any one FKK club if I catch something unless it was a frequent thing at any particular club. The girls go with many guys each day. They cannot be tested after every session. You can ask the girl for her latest test result. I know that some of them carry it in their bags, but I have no idea how they would react to such a request.
Chivaz
David,
I once got gonnorhea from Babylon, but in something like 150 trips to FKK's and probably 400 sessions this has been the only STD I have picked up. I test once a year, and no chlamydia, no herpes, nothing.
I noticed mine 2 days later, but incubation is 2-8 days. I thankfully did not have the burning sensation, just the white discharge when I woke up. A cycle of Cipro and it was gone.
You can get G. from a BBBJ as it can reside in the back of the throat. If you really are worried, drop the BBBJ, then you'll be pretty safe. You could potentially still get herpes, as you start to shed a couple of days prior to an outbreak, so there is no way to prevent that well.
The best thing to do is let the club know which girls you were with and that they can advise them to get some treatment.
You take risks with the hobby, but it is rarely the fault of a particular club.
I went to the Palace 2 weeks ago. What a place. It was my first time there. I had 2 girls. One was half French and half from Lebanon, very tall black hair with blonde stripes. Her name was Aneeza. What a babe. Paid her 50 e. Had a great time with her, not rushed at all. Did 69. She gave me a bbbj. She works only weekends, and works as a beautition in the weekdays.
The other girl was from Romania. Very tall, Her name was Daniella. I spotted her early that night and didn't see her for a couple of hours, and when she returned I called her over. The first thing she said was "Hi, I'm Daniella from Romania. You want to fuck my ass?" Damn I was shocked. I went with her. Very good service.
I would recommend any of these two girls. I did same with her. BBBJ, 69 and fucked her in varoius position. I'm just glad I took some Kamagra Jellies on my trip. She must have been the best looking girl I've got my dirty hands on.
Nicoletta: late 20's, Romanian, wild long curly bleached-blonde hair, light brown eyes, super skinny, A cups, tan, good English, looks like a Moulin Rouge-era Christina Aguilera in the body and the hair but (alas) not the face. DFK, BBBJ, CFS in various positions. Neutral recommendation.
Olympia: 21, Romanian, ponytail-length brown hair with highlights, dark brown eyes, short and petite, B cups with pink nipples, untanned but not pale, decent English, great smile. No kissing, no fingering, doesn't like piercings, doesn't like precum. BBBJ and CFS. Not recommended.
There were plenty of other girls there, including the Vanessa from Poland who has been reviewed in this forum before, and the Julia who is believed to be moonlighting from World.
Which is the higher STD risk : BBBJ or DATY??
Both can be risky depending on a number of factors, if you recently brushed your teeth and performed DATY on a woman, there are chances you might have a cut in your gums, some people bleed a little after brushing. If her vaginal fluids are HIV positive and come into contact with your bloodstream, you could potentially get infected. If there are sores and cuts on your penis, and she sucks your dick and has cuts in her mouth, if her blood comes into contact with the sores on your prick, chances are you will catch something. Any form of unprotected sex can be risky.
[QUOTE=Fred Mercury]Which is the higher STD risk : BBBJ or DATY??[/QUOTE]
Hi Fred,
A general rule of thumb is that the receiver of fluids is in much more danger of catching something. Therefore DATY would be considered higher risk for your regular STDs. As for HIV, changes are slim to none as a result of BBBJ or DATY unless one is a total retard putting a bloody dick into a bleeding mouth.
Chivaz
I am a new visitor to the FKK scene - I had a great visit at the Palace recently with a beautiful Czech-Scottish girl named Linda - huge breasts, soft, slow BBBJ, multiple positions, tit f***ing with licking with each thrust, ball and thigh licking, and excellent CIM. I have been reading previous posts and am wondering if anyone else had had this tasty delight or have comments. Her session was not rushed, and she was a great GFE! Is she new there? I am curious. Also had a session with a Romanian named Nancy which was cold and rushed, but otherwise OK.
Palace now has air conditioning!!!
JosephA,
I made a post about Linda in March and had seen her there before that so she is by no means new there. It seems as if we had very similar experiences with her.
Cut and paste from my original post:
Linda from Czech Republic. Tall, with shoulder length auburn hair, always smiling, could loose a few pounds, huge breasts. DFK, BBBJ, GFE...Friendly, sweet girl, hope to see her again.
My experience matched that of Fats and JosephA. I had numerous sessions with Linda in February. Couldn't get enough of her. Her breasts are the biggest natural pair I have seen and enjoyed in an FKK. No rushing, no complaints and a pleasant, friendly attitude. Highly recommended.
Glad to hear that Linda is still at Palace, I have heard a rumour that she left the business for good. If you like big breasts she is absolutely amazing, but she is not fat at all, she just got the body that fits huge breasts.
And I mean really huge breasts, that is something a man got to try once in a lifetime.
Huge breasted Linda: been there done that. I agree her breasts are huge, the session was ok, but nothing spectacular. I am normally not attracted to the big breasted types as gravity tends to ruin things, but this was extraordinary and therefore a must try. She has been around for at least 6 months.
Chivaz
Visited Palace last night - good selection of girls, not only the number of girls, but also the quality.
Decided to spend a long time before the final selection, and I chose a 26 year old polish girl named Kamilla with a killer body.
She was not very talkative, actually very quiet. Thought for a minut just to skip her and make another selection.
However, I decided to try her out because of her extremely nice body.
Session however was good as she was active and motivated, getting the standard "job" done in a good way. However, would not say she showed high GFE factor as I think that being social before the action is part of the game.
Still can be recommended if you don't want to spend a lot of time talking before the action.
However, if I compare her with Linda from the Seychelles, they are night and day as she is according to my experience a true GFE.
Noticed also a lot of rumenian girls there this time. They seem to be more agressive in approaching the guest than the other regular girls.
Anybody still wondering about public transportation ? Forget it, the taxi ride from Palace at 1 PM to Hauptbahnhof cost me € 10.
[QUOTE=Musta Pekka]Anybody still wondering about public transportation ? Forget it, the taxi ride from Palace at 1 PM to Hauptbahnhof cost me € 10.[/QUOTE]
I'm glad you prefer the taxi, but I will stick to public transportation. Two stops on the U4 and three stops on the U6/U7 and I'm there for 1.80 Euros. I'll spend the 8.20 Euros I saved on a girl.
Musta & Taxis,
There still are some people out there who are hesitant to tell a taxi driver "take me to the brothel". Which is another reason to contemplate public transit.
I don't know if this hotel has been mentioned before, but it is only 200 meters from the Industriehof U Bahn Station.
[url]http://www.accorhotels.com/accorhotels/fichehotel/gb/ibi/1589/fiche_hotel.shtml#[/url]
Walking distance to the Palace.
Dick
[QUOTE=Dick Rambone]I don't know if this hotel has been mentioned before, but it is only 200 meters from the Industriehof U Bahn Station.
[url]http://www.accorhotels.com/accorhotels/fichehotel/gb/ibi/1589/fiche_hotel.shtml#[/url]
Walking distance to the Palace.
Dick[/QUOTE]
Yes, as a matter of fact we were just talking about that Ibis Hotel within the last week or so.
Have you stayed there? How was it?
V.
I have not stayed there yet. But plan to stay there on my next trip to FRA.
Hi Guys,
I will be visiting Frankfurt from 4th to 6th October. Staying in the Ibis around the corner from Palace, and will visit Palace for sure. Might also go to World or Oase on one of the days. Let me know if anyone wants to hook up.
Fred
I have not stayed at the Ibis Frankfurt West yet, but have you visited one, you know more or less what the others look like. At least indoors. Very decent priced budget hotels with usually a queen size bed and toilet + shower in the room.
The Ibis concept is standardized and the rooms should look the same all over the world. They even send beds and linnen from France to all the hotels. What differs is the breakfast, that conforms with the local culture. In Germany they are usually pretty good, in France a joke (at least if you like a good breakfast). In Prague the breakfast is exellent, as well as many other things i Prague.
I think it's hard to find better quality at this pricing. Personally I always try to use Etap hotels (same brand, Accor). They are even cheaper, around 35 Euro per night, and with close to the same standard as Ibis.
One of Accors largest benefits that is worth mention is the cancellation policy. You can just cancel the booking until 6 pm the same day, without any cost at all.
That was a lot about hotels. But hotels are important when travelling around. I will visit Frankfurt now Sunday 12 Sept, and intend to pay my first FKK visit ever to Oase. Looking forward to that and of course I will post a report.
I have gotten some very good rates for hotels on priceline and some other bid services. Ibis is generally a decent pick for an inexpensive hotel, the Intercity chains and Tulip inns are pretty good as well. In general though, I find European hotels to offer less for more money than their US counterparts. I went on priceline.com and wound up with a room at a four star establishment for half the normal rate.
September FKK Tour: Part One
Passion, Power and the Palace (Thursday, Sept. 1)
After a long yet comfortable flight and having been away from FKK-land for much too long, I was really looking forward to a relaxing weekend of splendor in the FKK-grass. I had Thursday to myself but was to meet up with Fred and Fox during the next few days. It would prove to be an interesting and fully satisfying Sauna Club-tour.
Deciding which of the Big Three in Frankfurt to visit would be a difficult decision. FKK World is wonderful but reports and intel coming out of Pohlheim sound pretty grim at the moment. Oase seems to currently be having a nice run. Palace still has its share of Top-Acts, yet who wants to be indoors during the last days of summer. Also, there is a new kid in town. Malibu is just out of the starting gate and the Starlight Ladies that hold sway there are known for great service.
I opted to give Palace a visit. It has been some time since I walked through those doors and I was counting on seeing some of my all-time favorites. There had been sightings of both Cindy and Marina of late and if either one of them were to be present, then the decision would pay off.
Arrived at approx. 7:30 PM and it was not looking so promising. No sign of Marina (still early for her) Cindy, Charlie, Dilara, Daniela or any others that really would interest me. Julia (form. FKK World) was sashaying around and looking darn fine! I also caught a glimpse of Michelle (Blond, Russian Hard-body) and decided that if I could scoop up either or both of these ladies, then it would be a good night. Michelle came to me a little later and said that another guy was waiting for her and that she hoped to see me later. I told her that the night was young and promised to be patient. Not 10 minutes later DANIELA of Romania walked by.
I have always had good sessions with this girl. She is tall, thin, blond (dyed) usually wears high-heels with straps that lace up to just below her knees, and nice B cups. We made eye-contact and she came over to sit, talk and play a little grab and touch. After some small talk and she led me to the TV room behind the pool and near the massage area. This was a first for me! It is a pretty large room with fur (fake???) skins on the floor, pillow and cushions-a-plenty and a generous couch that lines the walls. Perfect atmosphere! Daniela has come a long way since our first session (last November). Her service has improved greatly and she is not at all distant or dower. DFK is the norm now and she seems to enjoy using that wondrous body of hers. Great BBBJ with those beautiful Romanian eyes looking right at me! I was more than happy to return the favor practice some oral technique on her as well. We kept to the standard missionary which, given that she opted to keep her fuck-me heels on, was a real treat! It was a splendid session and a great way to start the tour.
name: Daniella
hair: Blonde, long, permed
size: ~ 1,65 m
figure: slender, B-breasts LONG legs
origin: Romania
born: ~ 1982 ?
service: bbbj, DFK GFE
location: Palace
As soon as I finished giving Daniela her hard earned wages, Michelle walked by, fresh from a shower after her last customer. Despite having plowed Daniela’s fields with such reckless abandon, one look at Michelle’s dynamite figure and I knew that it would not take long for the “excitement” to overtake me again. MICHELLE now has pig-tails and seems to be going after a school-girl look. Some have told me that her face is not so appealing but I find her very attractive. No complaints with her beach-girl figure!
After a shower, a drink and a quick dip in the whirlpool, I approached her at the bar and we began to discuss our immediate future. She led me off to a room and after some catching up we got down to business. She is a great mixture of power sex and a good GFE. 69 with her is a dream and we quickly began an intimate inspection of one another. What are they teaching these girls in Moscow? It would prove to be the highlight of the evening; passionate sex in a plethora of positions. The girl is wonderful to spoon!
name: Michelle
hair: Blond, tied up in pig tails
size: ~ 1,55 m
figure: slender, C/D-breasts (enhanced)
origin: Russian
born: ~ 1980 ?
service: bbbj, DFK GFE
location: Palace, form. Atlantis
By this time (approx. 9:30 PM) I was thinking that the evening was a success and that it might be wise to return to the hotel and rest up for the continuing journey with Frederick the next day. This was my intention, but I decided to enjoy the buffet before I left. The Palace spread is quite good at the moment and is much better than Oase and IMHO, a shade better than at World.
During dinner I caught the eye of a girl that I have seen a few times in the past. A cute blond with pretty large, natural breasts, nice legs, a great hind-end and a bewitching smile. She has a little extra meat on her bones but not enough to bother me. After dinner and a smoke she approached me, all smiles and friendliness. She is quite charming and it did not hurt her cause that she found my joint with her hand rather quickly and commenced a very tantalizing grope session. She said that her name was BIANCA and that she was from Romania. She says that she is 20, soon to be 21 but I could easily guess 19. I threw caution to the wind and agreed to accompany her to a room. We entered the room at 10:15. This will be a significant detail later. We talked for a little while before she got to work on my mini Dedalus. Her technique was ok, but after about 5 minutes of this I could tell that she was doing her best to squeeze an extra 50 out of the session. I was ready to move on to other forms of sex and she reluctantly stopped and we began what was some pretty good bump and grind. The girl is not bad. We finished a pretty hot session and I was thinking that about 25 minutes had passed. She wanted to have a smoke with me and we had a bit more small talk. Then she hit me with the words ‘Well in 5 minutes it will be an hour. Would you like to stay longer?” I was a little surprised. Although I had a hint of this during her Blow-job, it took me back that she was going to fragrantly deceive me on the time spent in the room. I told her that I thought her watch was fast and that I had noted when we started. She smiled and said that we should leave the room then. At the lockers she pulled the same deal. I again told her that it was indeed a 30 min. session and that I had paid close attention to the time. She was getting geared up for an argument and as I took out another 50 I asked her if that 50 was worth her reputation. She took the 50 and turned away without a word. Hence the report that I am writing now. Too bad really, for she is not a bad session. I probably should have made a stink about it, but this happens to me so rarely and I really dislike the problems it causes when it does happen. Guys, I am not saying don’t go with her, but do check the time at the door and make sure she knows it.
name: Bianca
hair: Blond, long straight
size: ~ 1,55 m
figure: D-breasts (natural)
origin: Romanian
born: ~ 1984
service: bbbj,
location: Palace, says that she worked in Vienna for awhile
I should have left earlier, but I am wiser (yet poorer) than before. I look at it as taking a bullet for the team.
All in all it was a good night. Daniela and Michelle were a perfect start to the tour. There would be more delights over the next few days to come.
Cheers,
Dedalus
Dedalus,
The same thing happened to me with Bianca August 1st. Now I regret not having provided a report here.
I have been in a few situations like this before and for the benefit of the less-experienced, I'll say that the only sure-fire way to avoid these situations is to escort the woman to the men's lock-boxes, point to the clock above the entry to the men's locker room and agree together on the start-time, before going to a room or even beginning to make out with her. (I do not care to wear a watch and I sometimes do not trust the women to not change the time on their own watches when I'm not looking.)
There is a particular woman at Palace (not Bianca) with whom I always do this. After an intial experience of getting tricked into spending an extra half hour of time with her (she had set her wrist-watch back 10 minutes), and since I realized I still wanted to enjoy her body, I decided I needed some security against being ripped off. There are few things as bad for me as having to spend the time with a woman worrying that she'll try to charge me for more time than we actually spent.
I'm afraid the moment you pulled the extra 50 out, she won, and she knew it. In fact, as long as you're standing there still holding your wallet or wadd of bills, still arguing or bickering or even pleasantly insisting, you risk looking indecisive and the woman knows she still has a chance of extracting the extra money.
The thing to do, in my opinion, based on my experience, is to immediately put your money in the lock box, and lock it. This is a solid visual indication to her that you are going to behave decisively about the matter and there is no use for her to continue the discussion. (I'm talking here about when you know very well that you have not gone over the 30 minutes or whatever).
This is exactly what I did with Biance. Although I had not taken her to the clock beforehand to agree on the start-time, I had on my own taken a look at the clock before I even so much as touched her. After a session that had not lasted even 30 minutes, but had included BBBJ with CIM, she tried to claim that I owed her for 60 minutes instead of just 30 minutes. My response was to put my money in the lock-box, and then I stated firmly and with an edge in my voice, and solid eye-contact, that we had only spent 30 minutes together (nur dreizich minut; spelling uncertain; pronounced noor DRY-tsick minOOT). She just as firmly (and a bit more politely than me), insisted that I was mistaken.
But that was it. She went her way without the extra un-earned 50 Euro. I went my way. I felt victorious, but also disturbed that I had to put up with that kind of treatment to begin with. Also regretting that I would not be spending more time receiving her service, which was not bad at all.
(One of the first times something like this happened to me was at Atlantis, and I naively suggested we let the woman at the front desk settle the matter. This is just more indecisiveness. Do not suggest this. The service-provider might suggest it, and you could say yeah, sure, go ahead. But lock your money away. Do not accompany the woman to the front desk. Chances are, the service-provider will drop the matter at that point).
The unfortunate thing is that if not for Bianca's attempt to rip me off, I would galdly have spent more time with her later. I was otherwise pleased with her service. i.e., she could have set herself up to earn more from me.
As it was, Bianca left me with "a bad taste in my mouth" and hard feelings to squirm with for awhile, which is not how I want to be spending my time at an FKK club. Fortunatly, I had 3 additional experiences with women that day that were much more aggreeable.
Stinky Pete
Hello Dedalus,
FKK-grass, in the Palace, that's new?
Correction on Michelle, She changed her name to Nathalie? Why, a good question. And for the breast, a tuning was made not long ago, C Cup is the result. She also gained a little on weight, she lost the Loni Anderson look alike (face).
But her service is still top.
Jason
Hi Dedalus,
Very nice report. Can't wait for the sequel.
Too bad about Bianca's bad manners, guess it kind of leaves a bad taste in your mouth even if the session was ok.
I have yet to be on the receiving end of overcharging, but there were some reports of this behaviour last winter, and I started to wear a watch then (never did before). As I don't like to wear the watch during the play, I start the session by removing it and placing it on the table beside the bed. This I do in a manner that it is not obvious that I am checking the time, but still in a manner that the girl usually notices that I do know the time. It is kind of little play, but played in a way the girl does not get the feeling I distrust her, but at the same time she knows I know.
Chivaz
I have had women try to charge me for extra time over the years (some successfully). Now I always wear a watch. It is somewhat of a bother in the showers at Palace (unless I am wearing a water proof watch), but it is worth it. Just make sure the lady sees your watch before the session, and sees you looking at it.
[QUOTE=Jason King]Hello Dedalus,
Correction on Michelle, She changed her name to Nathalie? Why, a good question. And for the breast, a tuning was made not long ago, C Cup is the result. She also gained a little on weight, she lost the Loni Anderson look alike (face).
But her service is still top.
Jason[/QUOTE]
Could be. I knew her back in the day at Atlantis and never bothered to ask her if she changed her name. The L. Anderson comparison is a good one, even with the pig-tails.
Thanks for the name update.
Dedalus
[QUOTE=Stinky Pete]Dedalus,
(One of the first times something like this happened to me was at Atlantis, and I naively suggested we let the woman at the front desk settle the matter. This is just more indecisiveness. Do not suggest this. The service-provider might suggest it, and you could say yeah, sure, go ahead. But lock your money away. Do not accompany the woman to the front desk. Chances are, the service-provider will drop the matter at that point).
Stinky Pete[/QUOTE]
Actually, the managment at Palace is pretty fair and and if you take the matter up with them, you will probably get good results. I was close to doing this but I figured that there are all kinds of justice and Binanca will suffer the economic consequences of her actions. No doubt more than 50 euros. Cruel I know but....That's one reason we have these forums.
Cheers,
Dedalus
Hello,
Front Desk is not the solution. It depends on the lady. If a new one you got a very little chance, but if a well-known lady doing problems, this happens sometimes, you have bad cards. I know a guy who was thrown out of the club after a verbal complain with a lady and the desk lady.
A better solution I saw at the Atlantis. A lady made a 25 minutes service normal and asked for 100€ while the act lasted 35 minutes. A good watch. She insisted on the 100 bucks.The guy gave her the money and a very positive publicity came over the lady, brought by the man and his friends. She wasn't bucked for the rest of hr shift, and the staff noticed it and asked the lady not to come back.
But at the Palace shitty service has been reported to me by a friend, and the lady was Lola a russian. Low service, a lot of KY, and the 35 minutes service 100 bucks trick. Watch up
Jason
Have a question and have been following these forums for a long time.
How do you know when the time starts? I've seen reports of groping, fondling, and even BBBJ out in the common areas that then moves to a room. When do you actually start timing?
The time should start as soon as you enter the room, but this does of course not apply if you are going to conduct the whole session f.ex. in the Kino. pre-room fondling, discussion etc. should be accounted as the girls selling cost, but don't overdo it. I think 5-10 minutes is acceptable, but some guys have been known to do this for extended time and then not go to room.
If there is wait for rooms, you can of course have some longer forplay without it counting towards session time.
Chivaz
[QUOTE=Jack591]Have a question and have been following these forums for a long time.
How do you know when the time starts? I've seen reports of groping, fondling, and even BBBJ out in the common areas that then moves to a room. When do you actually start timing?[/QUOTE]
Was on FKK tour this week-end. What a week-end! Visited three top clubs Palace, Oase and Parksauna Wildenrath (skipped World because of the problems of last week and Goldentime because it would be too crowded during the Roemer meeting). I had two highlights that week-end, my very first trio (this will be reviewed in the Oase section), and my meeting with Ramona.
I usually don't look for the other favourites, and prefer try to find out myself for the perfect gem. But she came to me and introduced herself as being Ramona from Romania. It took me a second before I realized I was in front of the famous Ramona. She noticed my surprise, and asked why. She seems not to know that she is a star on our board. Following the WSG policy and on special request of Novize, I didn't mention our forum, I replied that a friend of mine admired her a lot. She was interested about that, and tried to know who was that friend. This embarrassed me, because I've never met Novize for real, so I escaped by starting to speak about her. As far as I remembered, Ramona was at World. She confirmed she worked before at World, that she was there the only Ramona, and that now she is at Palace were she is also the only Ramona. She looked like the description: 170 cm tall, 27 years old, B cupped firm body, long dark haired, lovely face and a very nice smile. She is of Mediterranean style, would not have guessed her of being Romanian. I rate her 9 on a scale of 10. Funny, as I didn't notice her before, she can best be described as a discrete beauty.
I was enthusiastic, couldn't wait more to go for a session with her, even if the previous session was not very long ago. I told this to Ramona, but she smiled, and told me I had not to worry about that with her.
I am uncomfortable of describing my session with her, sorry Novize of going with your girlfriend. I just can tell you that she is as tender and soft as her voice. Only problem, but it was mine (didn't wait enough between two sessions, I was too enthusiastic), it took too long for me to come. She wanted to finish with BBBJ, but I preferred her to be close to me, keeping her tenderly in my arms.
For some reason, this made her feel very guilty towards me, and she took it as a personal failing. After the session, during all the night, she spent a lot of time with me. In fact I discovered after the session what an interesting personality she had. We switched from one language to another, she can speak English, Spanish and French, apart from German and Romanian. She is very open minded toward other cultures, a funny thing is that she doesn't stay with the Romanian group of girls. We had fun together with the Latina girls, she enjoyed watching me dancing Salsa and Bachata with them. I started to teach her dancing Merengue, but she felt unconfortable, so I did not insist.
Magical Ramona, I will not forget this night I have spent with you. Novize, could you confirm that my Ramona is your Romanza?
Does anybody know if Natalie, the thin czech girl with curly blond hair, is back at Palace ???
Thanks
Nathalie is on duty... ;)
Most girls will work during the IAA - it´s a busy week for them and there´s lots of money to earn...
Have fun,
Novize
Can somebody help me with hotel?Is it only ibis its close to palace?some others?
Routard,
It sounds like you had a really great week-end overall! I was impressed by you having possibly met Ramona at a club other than World. What doesn't come together is her speaking all those languages, including German and French. Also, I have never seen her at World with the few Latina girls out there. But all the rest seems consistent.
[QUOTE=nordboer]Can somebody help me with hotel?Is it only ibis its close to palace?some others?[/QUOTE]
Ibis is the only hotel close (walking) to the Palace that I know of (maybe there are others?), but really you can get there on the U-Bahn easily from any hotel near a U-Bahn station. I have had good success finding and booking hotel rooms in Frankfurt using the Frankfurt Tourism web site: [url]http://www.frankfurt-tourismus.de/[/url] .
If all goes as planned I should be at the Palace in 11 days!
V.
Routard,
your description fits my Romanza, except for the language skills.
I think I´ll have to take a look at her to be sure... ;)
The weather here in Germany doesn´t give Palace a disatvantage (because of the missing outdoor facilities) anymore. It´s Hamam-season already...
Have fun,
Novize
I visited Palace a weekend in the end of last month. Two girls, Juliana and Ramona, used to hang out together by the bar, dancing, having fun causing some nice attention. They were both truly eye candy.
Whether these two girls are the same that used to be at World, I do not know. But from what I read in this thread it sounds logical.
Just my two cents here.
Regarding Ramona's language skills:
-Romanian: this is what I assumed, I think she confirmed me this later, but didn't check it of course.
-German: this is what I assumed too, as only my very first words where in German with her, and we switched both very fast to French.
-French: I confirm I spoke French with her for a while. French is the second language in Romania. But she was not that confortable in French, so we switched to English.
-English: we spoke most of the time English.
-Spanish: we didn't speak together Spanish, but it was the language we used together with the Latina girls. Didn't check if she was fluent in Spanish, but she seemed to understand and I heard her speaking a few sentences.
FKK is a wonderfull language training center.
Palace is located on Konigsberger Strasse 23, 60487 Frankfurt Hausen Phone: 069-71034526). Frankfurt Hausen is a Frankfurt northern suburb close to A66. Palace is in a small industrial section and the entrance is in the back of a large industrial building. It is indicated by clear signs, which is quite unusual for FKK. It is convenient located in town and there is a nearby subway station Industriehof at 250m, as well as a nearby Ibis hotel at 300m. Ibis Hotel is located on Breitenbachstrasse 7, 60487 Frankfurt (Phone 069-24 70 70).
By Subway:
Take the subway to Hauptwache station and get off at Industriehof. Cross the street and follow the direction that the train goes. About 200 m ahead turn left. This is the first major street on the left and has a sign that says 'Palace'. It has a lot of other signs as well. Walk about 50 m and turn right on a small street, and the Palace is in an alley on the left.
By car:
Directions to Palace: From the airport, drive on to the A5 direction Kassel. Look for signs to the A66. Get on the A66 and take the exit for Miquellalee. Then follow all white/black signs to Hausen. Once in Hausen, look for an Aral petrol station on your right. It has a large blue sign. Just after this petrol station, there is a major right hand turn with several signs pointing mainly to Industrial area locations, but one of the signs points the way to Palace.
Their website is : [url]www.the-palace.de[/url]
Opening time are from 10 am till 4 am, but during day time action is slow. The breakfast buffet is offered daily from 10 am till 3 pm. You may enjoy the evening buffet daily from 6 pm till 10 pm.Buffet is included in the entrance fee.
At the reception you will be greeted by a lady. In return for the entrance fee of 65€ you will be given key, a towel and some explanations if it is your first time. Bathrobes are also available if a towel is not convenient for you. You can undress, take your first shower and put on your towel and sandals in the changing room. Leave your clothes in the locker and there is a separate locker for your money and other valuables outside the changing room. You are supposed to take a shower between each session.
The theme is of a Turkish or Arabian Palace, as if you are in a dream of 1001 nights in the middle of a harem. The decoration is impressive. The main area has a main bar in the center with free non alcoholic drinks. Everywhere around there are large soft benches and coloured pillows. In the middle of the main area there is a huge Jacuzzi with nice lightning and fountain to relax. A funny thing is that Harley Davidson on a turning platform, used mainly for the dancing show, but could be also an eye-blink to their competitors in Pohlheim. There are several luxurious marble showers, as well as a sauna. But the most impressive is that huge marble hamman including a guy that rub your old skin off after, as well as a girl offering other massage. This is of extra cost of course. There is a cinema with a large screen and about four terraced levels of mattresses perfect for relaxing or having sex in view of everyone. Rooms are on the same level as the main area. However, there are no outdoor facilities.
The lighting is typically rather low and at first sight, girls seem much more beautiful than for example at Oase in daylight in the garden. Still, the line up is impressive. There are about 40 girls age between 20 and 30, rated 7-8 with several 9. Most girls are of course Eastern European (Romanian, Russian, Bulgarian, Hongarian, Ukranian…), several German but also a good quantity of more exotic girls (Moroccan, Venezuelan, Dominican, Colombian, Turkish…). A better diversity than for example at World. Most speak German, but also English. The dressing code for the girls is naked. Session is 50€ for every 30min, which includes usually BBBJ, DATY and DFK.
There is a nice relaxed atmosphere. Girls are not hassling, but you can have some good fun with them between the sessions. There is some coach action, mostly in the Cinema.
All in all, no doubt, this club belongs to the FKK top three, together with Oase and World.
Thanks for the excellent info. My flight lands in Frankfurt at 5:45 a.m. and I have to take another one at 4:00. Do I have enough time to go to Palace and be back in time to catch the flight?
Is it worthwhile going that early (around 10:00?).
Any advice appreciated.
[QUOTE=Routard]Palace is located on Konigsberger Strasse 23, 60487 Frankfurt Hausen Phone: 069-71034526). Frankfurt Hausen is a Frankfurt northern suburb close to A66. Palace is in a small industrial section and the entrance is in the back of a large industrial building. It is indicated by clear signs, which is quite unusual for FKK. It is convenient located in town and there is a nearby subway station Industriehof at 250m, as well as a nearby Ibis hotel at 300m. Ibis Hotel is located on Breitenbachstrasse 7, 60487 Frankfurt (Phone 069-24 70 70).
By Subway:
Take the subway to Hauptwache station and get off at Industriehof. Cross the street and follow the direction that the train goes. About 200 m ahead turn left. This is the first major street on the left and has a sign that says 'Palace'. It has a lot of other signs as well. Walk about 50 m and turn right on a small street, and the Palace is in an alley on the left.
By car:
Directions to Palace: From the airport, drive on to the A5 direction Kassel. Look for signs to the A66. Get on the A66 and take the exit for Miquellalee. Then follow all white/black signs to Hausen. Once in Hausen, look for an Aral petrol station on your right. It has a large blue sign. Just after this petrol station, there is a major right hand turn with several signs pointing mainly to Industrial area locations, but one of the signs points the way to Palace.
Their website is : [url]www.the-palace.de[/url]
Opening time are from 10 am till 4 am, but during day time action is slow. The breakfast buffet is offered daily from 10 am till 3 pm. You may enjoy the evening buffet daily from 6 pm till 10 pm.
At the reception you will be greeted by a lady. In return for the entrance fee of 65€ you will be given key, a towel and some explanations if it is your first time. Bathrobes are also available if a towel is not convenient for you. You can undress, take your first shower and put on your towel and sandals in the changing room. Leave your clothes in the locker and there is a separate locker for your money and other valuables outside the changing room. You are supposed to take a shower between each session.
The theme is of a Turkish or Arabian Palace, as if you are in a dream of 1001 nights in the middle of a harem. The decoration is impressive. The main area has a main bar in the center with free non alcoholic drinks. Everywhere around there are large soft benches and coloured pillows. In the middle of the main area there is a huge Jacuzzi with nice lightning and fountain to relax. A funny thing is that Harley Davidson on a turning platform, used mainly for the dancing show, but could be also an eye-blink to their competitors in Pohlheim. There are several luxurious marble showers, as well as a sauna. But the most impressive is that huge marble hamman including a guy that rub your old skin off after, as well as a girl offering other massage. This is of extra cost of course. There is a cinema with a large screen and about four terraced levels of mattresses perfect for relaxing or having sex in view of everyone. Rooms are on the same level as the main area. However, there are no outdoor facilities.
The lighting is typically rather low and at first sight, girls seem much more beautiful than for example at Oase in daylight in the garden. Still, the line up is impressive. There are about 40 girls age between 20 and 30, rated 7-8 with several 9. Most girls are of course Eastern European (Romanian, Russian, Bulgarian, Hongarian, Ukranian…), several German but also a good quantity of more exotic girls (Moroccan, Venezuelan, Dominican, Colombian, Turkish…). A better diversity than for example at World. Most speak German, but also English. The dressing code is naked. Session is 50€ for every 30min, which includes usually BBBJ, DATY and DFK.
There is a nice relaxed atmosphere. Girls are not hassling, but you can have some good fun with them between the sessions. There is some coach action, mostly in the Cinema.
All in all, no doubt, this club belongs to the FKK top three, together with Oase and World.[/QUOTE]
Routard wrote:
"However, there are no outdoor facilities."
One of the girls informed me that there are certain plans for outdoor facilities next summer - on the roof - with stairs from the area around the sauna. Whether it will materialize I do not know. It would be nice though with outdoor relaxation area at Palace in the summer, even though I doubt it would be even near the outdoor standards at World and Oase.
Kuber, the answer is YES!
During day time, there are half of the girls than during the evening, but still are 20 girls not enough for satisfying you during a few hours? Even during daytime the 3 top FKK from Frankfurt can beat any other club in Western Europe.
I just can't imagine myself waiting for 12 hours unconfortable sitting at the airport while being at only a few minutes taxi from paradise.
When I'm on FKK Tour, which happens only two or three times a year, I stay all the day in FKK, from 10AM till 5AM. Between 10AM and 12AM, it's really slow (20-30% of the girls). From 12AM till 6PM, the first shift is complete (50% of the girls), with still few customers. It's a nice time to get to know better the girls. From 6PM till 8PM, the second shift starts to come (80% of the girls), and more customers enter. Action begins. Between 8PM and 12PM it's rush time (100% of the girls), overcrowded with customers, ventilation problems and lack of rooms. Between 12PM and 5AM, it's my favorite time, as most of the girls are still on duty (80% of the girls), but with much less customers.
But may I suggest you rather to try FKK Oase, as this club will have more action during daytime, mainly because of the outdoor facilities. It's a bit further from the airport than Palace, but by highway it's just another 10 min more.
[url]http://www.fkk-palace.de/videos_en.php[/url]
excuse me if these have already been posted, worth a look if you have never been to Palace.
Quick question. I will be in Frankfurt in the next week or so, and I am very excited to visit this club I've been reading about here on this board. This is my first time to Germany, let alone an FKK club, and I was wondering about the environment. I have heard that there is some racism in germany towards foreigners (I am of japanese descent, but from america), and I am worried that locals in the club may be a little hostile? Am I completely out of my mind? A friend of mine who's black may be going there also, would that present any problems? It may seem ignorant of me to even ask this, but since this is my first time at a club like this I want to enjoy it thoroughly, and not have to worry about personal security.
Thanks.
Quick question. I will be in Frankfurt in the next week or so, and I am very excited to visit this club I've been reading about here on this board. This is my first time to Germany, let alone an FKK club, and I was wondering about the environment. I have heard that there is some racism in germany towards foreigners (I am of japanese descent, but from america), and I am worried that locals in the club may be a little hostile? Am I completely out of my mind? A friend of mine who's black may be going there also, would that present any problems? It may seem ignorant of me to even ask this, but since this is my first time at a club like this I want to enjoy it thoroughly, and not have to worry about personal security.
Thanks.
[QUOTE=Routard]Palace is located on Konigsberger Strasse 23, 60487 Frankfurt Hausen Phone: 069-71034526).
By Subway:
Take the subway [from] Hauptwache station and get off at Industriehof. Cross the street and follow the direction that the train goes. About 200 m ahead turn left. This is the first major street on the left and has a sign that says 'Palace'. It has a lot of other signs as well. Walk about 50 m and turn right on a small street, and the Palace is in an alley on the left.
[/QUOTE]
These were the directions I followed the first time I went to The Palace (thanks), but the next time I realized that there is a short cut. After you exit the U-bahn at Industriehof, cross the street, and walk in the direction the train was going (away from Frankfurt). After ~10-20 m you will come to a gap in the wall on your left. If you look left, through this gap in the wall, you will see Königsberger Strasse stretching in front of you, and if it is night, you will see the lights of The Palace sign. Just go through the wall and walk straight ahead, and soon you will come to The Palace on your left after crossing one intersection.
Map24 [url]http://www.uk.map24.com/[/url] will give you a good map, and will even show the Ibis Hotel if you zoom in.
V.
Can someone please describe the famous Ramona so that I can find her easily next week end during my visit to Palace.
Thanks
Dadou29,
As I reported before, she is discrete, and you will probably not notice her. The easiest way is to go to see the Latina girls and ask for Ramona.
As requested before, don't mention you have heard from her on this forum, and be nice with her as she is a very sweet person. I care for her.
Keitho1981,
Don't worry about racism, everytime I have been in Oase, Palace, and World, I've always seen inside the club 5-10 Japanese, 5-15 Turkish or Arabic, and 2-3 Black, and I mention only the most common ethnical groups.
It is true however that in some FKK in the Dusseldorf area (where beer is for free in FKK), they try to filter the customers. It's not a matter of racism, they just fear bad behaviour, and are reluctant to groups, drunk people, and let's say ethnical minorities with little education or conservative culture. I have been personaly to FKK with a black friend without any problem, including in the more reluctant Dusseldorf FKK.
No matter your ethnical origin, as long as you are in a small group, low profile, normal dressed, obviously educated, and not drunk, there is little risk not to be accepted in FKK. As far as your question about personal security due to ethnical origin, or locals in the Club being hostile, yes this is a stupid question (sorry)! FKK is a highly securited and upscale environment.
In my opinion, it's unfair to blame everytime the Germans about racism. They have created that wonderfull concept that is FKK, few countries have managed to do the same. They want to protect it, as it can easily go wrong with the wrong customers. We are their guest, let's just adapt us on the German culture, that put high value in mutual respect by keeping a low profile.
Hello,
I was in Palace last year and had sex in the big "movieroom"
Is it possible to have sex everywhere? Even in sofas and in the bar?
I am just little curious!
Buttlover
Keith0,
Racism in Germany is way overrated.
I have lived in a lot of countries, and few are less racist than Germany, the only exception might be in regards to the turks, who are the major ethnic minority in germany. Racism against japanese is ZERO, they are not mad at them for causing them to lose WW2 by getting America into the war. Black guys also won't experience any racism. If you guys act like young american soldier yahoo's you might get some wrong looks (with proper grounds).
september fkk tour: part three
mall orca-party or bust? (thursday, sept. 3)
saturday was a day of great decision. well, perhaps this is an overstatement but fred, fox and i were all set to be good fkk-soldiers and check out what was really happening on the fkk world front. i was having some dilemmas as i had it on the best authority that marina would be at palace that evening and it had been way too long since our last “date”. still, we three amigos had settled on recon at world and i was willing to sacrifice my selfish desires for the good of the order.
however around noon i received word from fred that there was pretty positive intel that world would be a lost cause. it seems that the lion’s share of the top bulgarian and romanian talent was still missing and the ratio of men to ladies was pretty depressing. recon is one thing. a suicide mission is something else entirely.
we all agreed that palace would be the place of action for that evening. i could not hide my relief and excitement at the prospect of seeing marina again. i felt bad for fred for it was clear that he was disappointed. he was pretty sure that at least one important romanian would be in attendance at world. still, good solider that he is, he recognized the folly of three guys, and possibly more, chasing one girl!
fox was to meet us there later in the evening. fred and i arrived around 5 pm. during the drive i was starting to feel bad for the fredster. he was clearly jonesin’ about not being able to visit natasha. (can’t really blame him, for she is quite a treat!) i was hoping that an introduction to marina would provide at least some compensation. but she would not be arriving till 8:30. what to do till then?
after a quick change and a shower i headed to the bar for and drink and to check out the pre-evening crowd. it was pretty darn impressive! quite a few lookers who i recognized and a few that i didn’t. but one did jump out at me immediately. sitting on the rondel right under the harley davidson was charlie, in all of her cute, leggy and naked glory. for a brief instant i was thinking about rushing this lady to the nearest room, but i thought of despondent fred and hurried back to the changing room to inform him of the presence of one of his favorites. (my generosity amazes my sometimes!) fred’s eyes lit up at the good news and he was away in a flash. good. my good deed for the day was done.
fred would be charlieing for quite a while which gave me the chance to take in the surroundings and take class attendance. biene is now a blond and it suits her quite nicely. makes her look younger. they have not yet asked binaca to leave, for she was floating about looking for her next unlucky victim. she walked past me and gave me a cold stare. a tall dark-haired beauty wearing black high-heels with knee-high straps was walking about. quite a looker! i never caught her name, but i did observe her moves in the kino later that evening. very talented! i tall german blond with short hair parted to one side (she has a 1940s movie star look) was being nice to some happy fkker. i would find out later that she calls herself jill. quite pretty! a cute little blond who seemed to lack the ability to smile was an attention grabber. this was ambra (or amber) and she is an ex-fkkworld worker. angelique is still going strong and giving her fan club something to cheer about. linda (czech) and her two friends were present. also a very cute czech girl who both chivaz and i have gotten to know in the past but throughout the evening i would struggle to remember her name. thanks to fox and his research i would remember her as simone. nathalie(czech) would round out the bohemian contingency. devilishly cute julia (ex ffw and d. fox nemesis) arrived. no sign of cindy, dilara, daniela, or michelle(or nathalie).
some time after 6 pm fred appeared looking like a new and refreshed man with a huge grin on his kisser. apparently charlie’s charms had worked their magic.
i was seriously considering a session with julia as sort of a pre-marina warm-up. we have exchanged glances, smiles, and even the occasional passing grope in the past. but for some reason every time i try to initiate a visual “come hither” with her of late, she seems to run the other way. maybe she has seen me with fred and fox and thinks that they are a bad influence.
while fred and i were enjoying a lovely beverage, jill approached or table and began to engage me in conversation. she is very attractive and i was quite tempted to whisk her away for a while. yet i vaguely remembered quite a number of negative reports about a german named jill on the german board and i was hesitant to take a chance with her. my fears were confirmed when after 10 minutes of non-committal conversation she gave me bucket loads of hell for not going with her to a room and for wasting her time. “warum hast du mich dass nicht sofort gesagt!” i apologized and told her maybe later and she left in a bit of a huff. oh well, that just narrowed the playing field a bit.
fred was anxious to meet marina. “patience” i cautioned. when amber caught him with his guard down he decided to run off with her for a bit. fred must have had a good effect on her because after that she was nothing but smiles and good humor the rest of the evening.
fox finally arrived and we took a seat on the couch and conversed while scanning the scenery. after a few minutes marina finally showed up. i had to rudely interrupt fox in mid sentence and exclaim that “that’s what i have been waiting for all day!” i smiled, waved and motioned her over to where we were sitting. she acknowledged me and after grabbing a drink came right over. she offered to comeback later when fox and i were finished talking but i grabbed her hand and practically pleaded with her to stay. i could already see that other fkk were guests taking notice of this incredible woman and i knew that if i let her out of my sight i would probably be chasing her all night.
the charming and famous angelique saw fox and decided to join the party. fred also showed his face and i introduced him to marina. this time i was not going to be so magnanimous. marina and i decided to retire to a room and rediscover each other after such a long absence. angelique and fox seemed to have some private things to discuss and made their way to a zimmer right behind marina and me.
there is a lot of hype about marina and i am here to confirm its veracity. i find her stunning and the high-heels with leg straps that she was wearing did nothing but show off what are some already dynamite gams. she opted not to remove these during our session, much to my delight. we got right down to business. she has a wonderful way of draping that incredible body all over a guy. after some rather delicious spit-swapping and mutual body exploration she went to work on mini-dedalus. her oral skills have not waned since our last meeting. she can be quite the tigress when giving a blow job! not hectic but very intense. she adroitly positioned her pussy over my tongue, cooing the whole time. what a tasty woman! we went through several positions finishing with a very intense missionary. actually the whole session was incredibly intense, in the very best sense. having those legs wrapped around you is an amazing feeling! i would have willingly extended the session for the rest of the evening but i knew that others were waiting and i wanted to be fair to the other marinos.
“the magic of or first love is our ignorance it can ever end.”
name: marina
hair: blond, long
size: ~ 1,70 m
figure: slender, b/c-breasts
origin: lithuanian
born: ~ 1983 ?
service: bbbj, dfk gfe
location: palace, form. atlantis
as we were leaving the room i noticed that fox and angelique were also finishing up there discussions. the four of us were heading to the lockers at the same time much to the shock of a bewildered fred who was sure that we four had engaged in some sort of wild orgy together. (sorry to have disappointed you, fredrick.)
i informed fred that the lions were laying in wait and that he better get marina while the getting was good. he followed my advice and set up shop near the entrance bar.
fox and i decided to hit the jacuzzi during fred’s merger with marina. fox’s keen eye caught biene and a few other delights. it was becoming clear that he was getting ready to continue his palace pleasure journey, possibly with the lovely julia who is looking really fine! fred joined us after his session with marina. i was hoping that he was a satisfied as i was.
dinner: the palace people seem to be taking great care to make sure that the guests are well fed with good eats. in my opinion they have the best buffet of the big 3.
i was having a difficult time keeping my eyes off of julia. however she really seemed to be ignoring my leers so having heard good things from fred about amber i thought that i would seek her out. she is a cute, petit blonde and fred seemed to have put her in a good mood so when she started to tease me at the bar, i was hooked.
amber delivered gfe of the finest standard. she has wonderful oral skills and is quite an energetic little thing. she also has impressive body flexibility. how she put her legs into some of those positions still baffles me. one memorable position that we found ourselves in was a half-missionary with her on her side and with one of her legs on my shoulder. not sure which one of the karma sutra positions this is. it was also interesting to get her perspectives on the current fkk situations. ‘nuff said.
name: amber (or ambra)
hair: blond, long
size: ~ 1,55 m
figure: slender, b/c-breasts
origin: romanian
born: ~ 1985 ?
service: bbbj, dfk gfe
location: palace, form. fkk world and saunaclub yin yang
after practicing gymnastic with amber, some proper rest was in order. as my favorite swing was occupied, i retired to the kino to try to get a little shut eye. i was actually pretty successful until the moans and other sex noises of the tall, sexy brunette with the high-heels and knee-high straps woke me up. ‘i have to try this one out one day, when i have some more energy’ i thought. she was putting on quite a performance much to the delight of the others in the room. some nut-job with a plastic bag and his own lotion expressed his appreciation more…publicly.
i had already decided to try and catch marina for my last session of the evening. but i knew that i had to be lucky. she had been running from room to room all night and there was always the chance that one of her many other members of her fan club would book her for one of those long, power sessions. 2:00 in the morning and i was close to deciding on a session with charlie instead. just then i saw the divine miss “m”, another girl and some dude with a cheshire cat-grin on his mug appear from a room. as she headed to the locker to collect her dough, i motioned to her to let her know who her next appointment was with.
when she returned from freshening up we headed to one of the small chambers behind the bar. during our pre-love cigarette i made it clear that i was in no hurry and that she had my permission to take her time. again opting to leave on those sexy shoes of hers, she commenced to engage me in long, slow and sensuous foreplay giving me time to meticulously explore every inch of her goddess body. she applied one of the greatest bbbj that i have ever had in an fkk, varying her tempo with expert sensitivity. despite being close to spent after three days of intense fkking, marina really had me worked up and ready for a great finale to a great weekend. we began a spoon session that was titillated by the full-sized mirror in front of us. that mirror would continue to be a helpful prop as i laid her on her stomach and entered her from behind. the lotion that she had earlier applied made this a particularly comfortable position. after a great missionary during which, despite the new air-conditioning system, we work up quite a sweat, i decided to let her finish me off in the 69 position. imho there are not many girls in this biz (perhaps 3) who are marina’s equal or better.
my power session with marina would do me in for me the evening. as i was the designated driver for the other two amigos, i remained till closing. fred and i did some power-relaxing in the kino while waiting for der fuchs to finish his love session with the delicious simone. this was occasionally interrupted by “baggie-boy” and his taking of matters in hand. isn’t there a club policy against this?
at closing time we caught fox at the end of his simone session looking most satisfied. i was reminded of my last experience with her back in april and could understand the smile on his face.
it was finally time to depart. i was poorer yet more relaxed. tired yet more than content. with only a few exceptions it had been a grand weekend. during the drive back to the hotel we were asked directions to the bahnhof by some lost americans in a mercedes. i told them to follow me and they asked if we were headed to the red-light area. too bad these guys had not asked me these questions 12 hours earlier for i am sure that we could have shown them the time of their lives, for palace is back; alive and well!
cheers,
dedalus
Hey Dedalus,
Before reading your elegant report of the current state of Palace, I thought it was no big deal, in view of the problems at my favorite venue FKK World, that I had to drop out of maneuvers that weekend due to a bad back. It seems I missed a fabulous fun time. Your eye for detail in this missive is second only to Fred's, and you even name names! The three of you swapping recommendations and girls all night had me in stitches- it sounded like that 60's classic movie about swinging and wife-swapping, Bob and Carol and Ted and Alice (and Marina). Wasn't anybody watching the motorcycle dancers?
The addition of airconditioning at Palace definately adds to the attraction factor. With the upcoming Messe season, I imagine that I will be spending a lot less time on the DB and more time on the U-bahn commuting from the Excelsior. A roof top solarium would be the icing on the cake.
And you mean to say that Marina didn't ask about me ;-).
beffen
Dedalus,
Great report! Thank you. Your report helps me convince myself going back to Frankfurt. And, yes, great to know Marina is as good as ever!
I am planning to go back at Palace and maybe Oase from 9/27.
Cheers!
Wow - I really have to try out Marina, though I'll bet that YMMV depending on your personal chemistry with her. But still - she sounds like a gem. Thanks for the great report!
[QUOTE=Bruce Ley]Wow - I really have to try out Marina, though I'll bet that YMMV depending on your personal chemistry with her. [/QUOTE]
Hey Bruce,
There are indeed a few folks I know who have told me that they are not as impressed with Marina's talents and affections as I am. I have never heard any one complain about her looks. She doesn't have many English skills so if you don't have some German, Russian or Lithuanian you may miss out on some of her charms.
To those who are not as enamored of Marina's charms as I am, that is quite ok. The membership of the Marina Fan-Club is bursting at the seams as it is.
Cheers,
Dedalus
Hey Dedalus,
Absolutely super report. Really got me back at Palace there for a while, readying your report. Must say though that jerk in the kino, pun and all, is not that common a sight is it? I've never seen that there. I guess we owe it to good German tolerance that nobody tried to say anything to security or anything about him, just let him carry on during the night...
A couple of questions:
--Is Charlie the trim, blonde, leggy Dutch/Berlin girl that used to go under the name "Johnnie?" Am I right that she doesn't DFK? What would you say is the one or two distinguishing session features that makes her so desirable?
--Is Ambra/Amber, who you describe as a blonde Romanian, the same girl I had met and sessioned with at World, say six or so months ago, but who at that time was brunette?
About Marina: Good thing she ditched that bad so-called "sister" of hers, Diana, ja?
Thanks, Dedalus.
Ortos
[QUOTE=Ortos]
A couple of questions:
--Is Charlie the trim, blonde, leggy Dutch/Berlin girl that used to go under the name "Johnnie?" Am I right that she doesn't DFK? What would you say is the one or two distinguishing session features that makes her so desirable?
--Is Ambra/Amber, who you describe as a blonde Romanian, the same girl I had met and sessioned with at World, say six or so months ago, but who at that time was brunette?
About Marina: Good thing she ditched that bad so-called "sister" of hers, Diana, ja?
Thanks, Dedalus.
Ortos[/QUOTE]
Hello St. Ortos,
I did not have a session with Charlie on this trip but I do know her from back in the day when she was Janni. From an earlier report of mine:
"...Her name is JANNI and she is very charming. Her body type is similar to Marina’s. She speaks some English but clearly felt more comfortable with German. I wisked her off to a room and after a 10 minute wait with much groping we finally got down to business. Gents, this lady is a find. The girl knows sex and knows how to use that body of hers. Great BBJ, 69, good mix of GFE and wild porn sex. Very high repeat factor!..."
name: Janni
hair: blonde, long
size: ~ 1,75 m
figure: slender, B/C-breast
origin: dutch/german
born: ~ 1984
tattoos/piercing: A rose behind her right shoulder
service: Super. great bbbj, Kisses but without tongue
other: Usually hangs out at the small bar close to the entrance
location: Palace usually works the 2nd calendar week of each month with a few exceptions.
Not sure if this is the same Ambra but it may well be. Sorry...
Saw neither hair nor hide of either Diana. Both attractive, neither grand sessions.
Cheers,
Dedalus
Visited Palace a few times over the past several months.
Nelly - first girl I met at Palace, took my on tour and then to room. Blonde Russian. Very pretty, nice figure. Pleasant & enthusiastic. Good DFK, 69, BBBJ & GReek. Would see her again, but would tend to check out other girls first.
Angelika - Russian from Siberia. Tall & thin, with smallish tits. Remins me of the brunette actress with short hair in the American cable comedy "Reno 911." Excellent BBBJTCWS. Visited her on two separate visits just because she is such a good cocksucker - enjoys having her head grabbed and her face fucked vigorously. Will see again.
? - Romanian girl, can't remember her name but she was good. Dyed blonde hair, and pretty decent implant beneath the chest muscles so her tits are lift but still soft. Very thorough, excellent BBBJ, very good cuddling and enthusiastic greek. Will see again.
Linda - Czech girl with slim body and HUGE tits. Gotvery excited when I asked about greek, and really threw herself into her work. Saw her 2x in same evening. Tops my target list at Palace.
Angelika was once rated the top prostitute in Germany by the German board when she was still working in Atlantis. She is recognizable by the tatto of a devil on her ass.
Went to Palace on 6th this month. Reached around 11pm after long ride on a train from Munich(Delayed about 1 hour).
It was Tueseday but very clouded than ever before! Girls seemed some what tired and action went slow may be because the number of men superior to the girls.
I had session with Ana, a Polishi girl and ????, a tall blond Romanian. Both friendly all right but not so enthusiastic, no French kiss. It must have been a bad day for me.... I did not feel for 3rd shot and back to the hotel. Maybe better come earlier with my energy fully loaded. If I had enough time, I have an option to go for Oase though. Wish good luck for next time.
DeeJay
[QUOTE=Peter]Angelika was once rated the top prostitute in Germany by the German board when she was still working in Atlantis. She is recognizable by the tatto of a devil on her ass.[/QUOTE]
That's the one alright! Really pleasant/funny personality too. Smokes too much though.
When I was leaving Palace I saw the Hamam massage area but I do not understand the concept.
Is this like a Thai masssage or Japanese Soapy?
Is the girl of your choice involved?
Can someone please give me the details?
'bare
Not at all, the hamman massage is not related to sex, it is a professional massage. You can have as much sex or sex massage as you want in the rest of the club.
There is also a very interesting massage table next to the sauna. This table has a hole for the the head and also a hole for your sex, so that you can get a blowjob while having a massage.
In that case, you have to take 2 girls for this kind of massage. I'm not sure that the professional masseur can provide a massage while the girl sucks your dick, too bad !
[QUOTE=Dadou29]There is also a very interesting massage table next to the sauna. This table has a hole for the the head and also a hole for your sex, so that you can get a blowjob while having a massage.
In that case, you have to take 2 girls for this kind of massage. I'm not sure that the professional masseur can provide a massage while the girl sucks your dick, too bad ![/QUOTE]
Hmm, interesting. I have never noticed this massage table next to the sauna. I will have to look next time. Is it for use by working girls?
I am half indian half scandinavian, but look like a very tall asian, some FKKs I have heard have entry restrictions, any one aware to these?
Yep, by the working girls.
Sounds pleasant doesn't it ?
Enjoy
Well, I've been to a lot of Mongering destinations (though, admittedly, not yet to Thailand and the Philippines), but I have to say that my recent trip to Germany afforded me one hell of a great time!
I tried out the Palace FKK in Frankfurt, Germany. It's easily reached by public transport from the main trainstation (S4, then U6 or U7, get off at Industriehoff). Even better, there is a good hotel conveniently located two blocks away (Ibis Hotel).
Got there about 6 pm. Dumped my luggage off and went to the FFK. 65 Euros entrance fee. Dinner and drinks (nonalcoholic) are free.
Man, oh, man!!! The place was packed with beautiful women! about 50 women. Like Adelitas in TJ, only more of a range of ethnicities, and, in my opinion, the women here were better looking -- range from 7 to 10s. Lots of blonds. High quality furnishings. The women were mostly nude, except for killer heels. Some wore scarves around their necks, others around their derriere.
Had three women in about 5 hours. First, Nina -- Dominican Republic, 35 yrs, C cup, shapely bubble butt; got BBBJ in the porn theater, in front of lots of other couples. She offered FS out in the theater, in full view, but I was a bit too shy for that, so then retreated to room for 69, DATY, CIM.
Next was Natalie. Get this, nearly finished with law school! Paying her expenses by working two days a month in the FKKs. Stunning French blond with sexiest accent. Oh, la, la! perfect body and stunning, model face. BBBJ for one hour. 100 Euros. Man, I would marry this one. She was so sweet, fun and intelligent to talk with. Got her email, even.
Finally, was with Julia. Romanian blond with the hottest body. Even when surrounded by dozens of other women, this one stood out. She has the poise of a ballerina, and a body to die for. Beautiful face! She was so hot, hot, hot, that, even after having already cum twice that evening, she made me come in under 10 minutes. She had this amazing sucking action while she rotated her mouth around my dick. BBBJ, then CG. 100 Euros.
I will dream about this trip for a long time!
Ciao!
[QUOTE=Bob Mantis]... she made me come in under 10 minutes. She had this amazing sucking action while she rotated her mouth around my dick. BBBJ, then CG. 100 Euros. [/QUOTE]
Bob,
what is "CG"? Read the "Abbreviations" and was explained "Club Girls".
This wouldn´t be an "extra" at any FKK-club I know.
Have fun,
Novize
[QUOTE=Novize]Bob,
What is "CG"? Read the "Abbreviations" and was explained "Club Girls".
This wouldn´t be an "extra" at any FKK-club I know.
Have fun,
Novize[/QUOTE]Sorry, it means cowgirl -- girl on top. RCG means reverse cowgirl -- girl on top with butt facing you.
Thanks for all the useful information. I have decided to take the plunge and visit Frankfurt between 6-10 October. My main destination is Palace. Can the experts here suggest any other sexy visits I can make keeping in mind I will be using public tansport only. Any partytreff in central Frankfurt? Finally if any board member will be on the same mission at the same time i would like to meet.
[QUOTE=Novize]Bob,
what is "CG"? Read the "Abbreviations" and was explained "Club Girls".
This wouldn´t be an "extra" at any FKK-club I know.
Have fun,
Novize[/QUOTE]
CG = Cowgirl, girl on top, facing you.
Reverse CG = girl on top, facing your feet.
Bob Mantis,
with the discussion over what CG means the main message of your post got lost a bit. So let me stress it again: The FKK experience beats just about any othere mongering opportunity on the face of the Earth, at least as far as value for the money is concerned. This is what people in the FKK part of this board have been claiming for a long time, and we are glad that you agree.
I have been to Adelitas in TJ, MX, too. Numerous times even. Yes, at peak times there are also 50 girls there. From this standpoint its the same. And it also costs about the same to take a girl upstairs. But this is where the similarity stops. At Adelitas the girls are dressed and not naked, the whole place is such a filthy mess that you often do not want to use the bathroom, and you never get the service that is standard at FKKs. There is no "couch action"; you chat a bit, perhaps you buy a drink for the girl (they make money off this), and then you go upstairs (which actually means that you have to leave the place, go into the street, into the next door, and then go upstairs). BBBJ at Adelitas is very rare and almost unheard of, just Franch kissing is rare. And you really don't want to go to town with DATY, because nobody takes a shower there. Not before the pop, not after, not in between. Not ever! Yuk.
euro
[QUOTE=Bob Mantis]
Next was Natalie. Get this, nearly finished with law school! Paying her expenses by working two days a month in the FKKs. Stunning French blond with sexiest accent. Oh, la, la! perfect body and stunning, model face. BBBJ for one hour. 100 Euros. Man, I would marry this one. She was so sweet, fun and intelligent to talk with. Got her email, even.
[/QUOTE]
Another blonde Natalie at The Palace?
Not this one, was it (see the pic I posted):
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=358740&highlight=Nathalie#post358740[/url]
V.
Viagrant,
Yes. There´s more than one Nathalie working at Palace.
Bob,
Thanks for the explanation. Just for future visits:
10 min. sex with no extra like CIM or anal (or S/M...) is 50 €. If you didn´t talk with the girl in the room for at least 30 min, you overpaid. Not a big loss, but you might remember that nest time...
Have fun,
Novize
Visited Palace yesterday after a long day at the IAA car exebition. I arrived around 4 pm and was surprised that it was rather quiet. 20-30 girls and not that many men. Or maybe it's the size of the room and the area in all that fools you a little bit.
Sat down on a sofa and was after a while aproached by a girl (this was not a good day, I have forgotten all names. Could have been Nelly). Around 25 yo, 160 cm, very long blond hair and a small tatoo on left upper arm. A-B cup breast with very long and responsive nipples. Claimed she came from Russia and spoke very poor english. I should have reacted on the signals in the beginning, since she wanted to go to the room directly. Unfortunately I didn't so after a short while we went to a room.
My only conclusion is, stay away from this one. She is kind, look ok, but does not like to have sex. She didn't want me to fuck her more than a few minutes, and after just 20 minutes her half hour had passed. I felt better get away and meet someone else, so we just stoped there.
The next encounter was exactly the opposite. Sitting in the bar I started to talk with a nice girl, say 25-27, very slim, 170 cm, small A-cup and very short black hair, more male style. Not a stunner, but smiling and very friendly. Said she was from Rumania and she had the nice slightly dark skinn. I can only say, this was the most GFE exerience I have ever met. If someone is worth several visits, this is the one. She said she had been at the club since a year back and worked 4 days a week in average.
Comments on Palace besides that is that the food i better compared with Oase. The girls are of more different origins and seems to be of higher average age. Since it's +23 degrees and sunshine, I believe however that I have to go to Oase tomorrow. Palace lack someplace to stay outside.
I have a lay over in Frankfurt this coming Sunday morning. Arriving at 1030am and leaving at430 pm. Which Fkk on a Sunday would you recommend hitting at the time? Or should I stick to the RLD?
[QUOTE=Viagrant]Another blonde Natalie at The Palace?
Not this one, was it (see the pic I posted):
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=358740&highlight=Nathalie#post358740[/url]
V.[/QUOTE]
The Nathalie that he is talking about is a cute student who use to work in the Köln area. She is actually Belgium. She is very charming company but IMHO only a so so sex-session. Not bad, mind you but I must admit that I enjoyed the verbal foreplay more than the sex.
Cheers,
Dedalus
[QUOTE=Gorgi]Thanks for all the useful information. I have decided to take the plunge and visit Frankfurt between 6-10 October. My main destination is Palace. Can the experts here suggest any other sexy visits I can make keeping in mind I will be using public tansport only. Any partytreff in central Frankfurt? Finally if any board member will be on the same mission at the same time i would like to meet.[/QUOTE]
Within the city of Frankfurt, I would stick to Palace. Have a look at the RLD, but then go to Palace for the sex. You might want to check out F-35 FKK Beach, but I have not seen any reports from there for a while (maybe there are some on the German boards?) and the last thing I heard about it was not positive. One of my favorites, Gabriela at Oase used to work there for 4 months under current management of that club so you never know.
Personally, I would not bother with public transport to World, but I know a lot of guys differ on that. Just search the World section and there is plenty of info how to get there via public transport. The same goes with Oase.
Chivaz
Going back to Palace soon! Has anyone seen Elena a cute little girl from Spain? She's my favorite.
Do they sell alcohol inside at palace?
[QUOTE=nordboer]Do they sell alcohol inside at palace?[/QUOTE]
Nope.
Dedalus
I was at Palace yesterday and did not see any massage table near the sauna. There are two in the Hammam massage room, but those are used by the professional masseurs. Does anyone else have any information on this?
[QUOTE=Dadou29]There is also a very interesting massage table next to the sauna. This table has a hole for the the head and also a hole for your sex, so that you can get a blowjob while having a massage.
In that case, you have to take 2 girls for this kind of massage. I'm not sure that the professional masseur can provide a massage while the girl sucks your dick, too bad ![/QUOTE]
Ebauche,
Linda does anal? Anybody else have experience with Czech Linda (huge Tits) and anal? I'm returning next month and may try it.
[QUOTE=Akibono]Going back to Palace soon! Has anyone seen Elena a cute little girl from Spain? She's my favorite.[/QUOTE]I have been to Palace last week, there were many girls and some from Spain. Can't remember the name but if you describe me this Elena maybe I can help you.
[QUOTE=Scarpone]I have been to Palace last week, there were many girls and some from Spain. Can't remember the name but if you describe me this Elena maybe I can help you.[/QUOTE]
Kind of short, very fair skin. Enhansed breasts and brown hair. Very pretty smile.
[QUOTE=Akibono]Kind of short, very fair skin. Enhansed breasts and brown hair. Very pretty smile.[/QUOTE]I think I know who you are talking about, had some talking with her in august, but I didn't see her last Friday and Thursday. I have been in the Palace for 5 hours each day. Sorry
Dedalus and Viagrant,
I read about the other Natalie, and I'm sure this is not the other one. She is the Belgian student, as Dedalus said. I had a pretty good session with her, although YMMV, as you know. She's not quite as hot as Julia, but few are.
[QUOTE=Mahaba]I was at Palace yesterday and did not see any massage table near the sauna. There are two in the Hammam massage room, but those are used by the professional masseurs. Does anyone else have any information on this?[/QUOTE]
When you face the sauna there is a small room on your left, sometimes hidden by curtains. It's there, believe me.
[QUOTE=JosephA]Ebauche,
Linda does anal? Anybody else have experience with Czech Linda (huge Tits) and anal? I'm returning next month and may try it.[/QUOTE]
Enthusiasically! Hell of a good cocksucker too. She prefers to swallow.
Any other Linda (Czech) fans out there? She rocks! Huge tits in my face and a nice slow BBBJTC.
I typically go to Frankfurt once a year and I have been to Oasis, World and Atlantis. They are all great but I liked Atlantis the best, and World somewhat more over Oasis.
Never been to Palace before. How is Palace compared to the others, in terms of number of girls and the overall ambient? Also, is there any other FKK club that is worth visiting in Frankfurt area? From postings I can see that these are top and the rest of them are a lot smaller.
What would you suggest to visit during 3-4 days stay in Frankfurt? What would you suggest for 6-8 hours airport stop-over?
Thanks.
Personally, I find Palace to be closest of the top three Frankfurt Area FKK clubs to the now deceased Atlantis in terms of overall "vibe." There are many ex-Atlantis girls at Palace too. There is also bad lighting, just like our beloved Atlantis. There are also some significant differences too: like much better facilities, far better rooms, superb food buffet (vs the notoriously poor offerings at Altenstadt) and of course the addition of a Kino room for erotic sessions and foreplay.
But overall, I have often remarked to myself, whilst at Palace, that this place reminds me alot of the old Atlantis, much more so than either Oase or World. The location from central Frankfurt is much, much more friendly than the distant Altenstadt was...
Ortos
[QUOTE=Dadou29]When you face the sauna there is a small room on your left, sometimes hidden by curtains. It's there, believe me.[/QUOTE]OK, this massage table idea is driving me nuts. I saw a X-rated movie about 20-years ago with such a table, and it all came back after reading about this table at Palace.
Has anyone on this board experienced the "table"?? Whats the deal? Which girls are recommended, etc.?
Thanks in advance,
Mahaba
Hi Mahaba,
I once had an experience with Cindy there. She gave me a good blow job through the hole while lying under the table. Later I fucked her titties and her pussy on the table.
It costed the usual 50 EUR.
Greatings
MA
I just got home from a nice vacation in Germany. I managed to visit The Palace 4 times (and this in only 5 days in Frankfurt). Here's who I had sessions with:
Elena (early 20's, brunette from Russia)- a bit quiet but gave a good bbbjtc;
Vicky (tiny blonde Czech girl "20 years and 40 kilos", A-cup)- enthusiastic DFK and bbbjtc;
Beatrice (cute Czech girl, ~20, beautiful long, light-brown hair, D- or large C-breasts)- saw her two nights in a row, a nice girl, French Kiss, very good bbbjtc;
Nathalie (the one and only, 21, Czech blonde, see previous posts)- last but not least, two sessions with her, she is just a sweetheart, good bbbjtc, 69, DATY, open to most things except anal.
I had one of my sessions with Beatrice in one of the large rooms in the back, beyond the jacuzzi. This room has beds around the perimeter, with a TV showing pornos. There were at least 2 or 3 other couples in the room at the same time. Kind of like a mini kino room. This was a first for me to not be in a more private room, but I only really was aware of the others because I could hear them once in a while.
I never did see that massage table with the hole in it, but I really didn't search too long for it, either. :-)
I stayed one night at the Ibis around the corner from The Palace, and found it to be a very good hotel. They even have a PC in the lobby with free internet access for guests. It sure beats a 15 Euro taxi ride if you stay at The Palace too late and miss the last U-bahn train back to the city (1:44 AM).
V.
Viagran
Thanks for the report. I have tried to search and find the IBIS hotel you stayed in through the ibis website but not avail. Can you post the full name or website. I have not pmed this request because I think others would also appreciate this info.
Johnny
[QUOTE=Johnny Darko]Viagran
Thanks for the report. I have tried to search and find the IBIS hotel you stayed in through the ibis website but not avail. Can you post the full name or website. I have not pmed this request because I think others would also appreciate this info.
Johnny[/QUOTE]The Ibis just 5 minutes walk from The Palace is Ibis Frankfurt West Breitenbachstrasse 7. The hotel code is 1589. You can search with either code or name at [url]www.accorhotels.com[/url] or [url]www.ibishotels.com[/url]
You see it on the attached map. The Palace is at the middle of Königsbergerstrasse.
Enter hotel code 1589 on accorhotels.com:
Ibis Frankfurt WestHotel code : 1589
Address :
Breitenbachstrasse 7
Hessen
60487 FRANKFURT
GERMANY
Tel : (+49)69/247070
Fax : (+49)69/24707132
Manager's name : Mr Klaus PICHLER
Polar's nice map gave me the idea to post this version of a map, showing where The Palace is located (as well as the Ibis hotel), and showing the shortcut connection from the U-bahn stop and Königsberger Str.
V.
I was at Palace early in August and again last weekend. One difference between the two visits is that there is now a sign posted prominently for people to read, both in German and English. I copied them both down quickly in my notebook (I am not sure of one of the German words, because I was writing these down rather quickly and cannot now read all of my own handwriting--for just one of the German words).
In typing this out here, since I don't have the two dots on my keyboard to go above vowels, I use ae for a with two dots and ue for u with two dots.
The German language sign is posted at the entrance, and near and in the locker rooms, as well as on the inside of each locker door, and reads as follows (I add the English translation below):
Die weiblichen Gaeste treten nicht als Mitarbeiterinnen des Palace mit den Maennlichen Gaesten in Geschaeftzbeziehungen, sondern als selbststaendige Unternehmerinnen im eigenen Namen und auf eigene Rechnung. Die Verguetung und die Art der Dienstleistungen werden ausschliesslich zwischen den maennlichen und weiblichen Gaesten geregelt, das Palace kann bei der Ausgestaltung (or is it Ausgestabung?) und deren Abwichlungen keinen Einfluss nehmen.
The English language translation is also posted at the entrance and a few other areas in/near the locker area:
Female guests don't have the right to conduct business with male guests in the capacity of The Palace employees. Consequently female guests should be self-employed and work on their own account. Any transaction between male and female guests should be strictly carried out between them and The Palace takes no part in it whatsoever.
It seems to me, they are saying that if there is a dispute over how much a man should pay the service provider, the man and woman have to settle the matter themselves, without getting the management nor front desk involved.
[QUOTE=Stinky Pete]It seems to me, they are saying that if there is a dispute over how much a man should pay the service provider, the man and woman have to settle the matter themselves, without getting the management nor front desk involved.[/QUOTE]
I think it´s more a legal issue.
It´s just to make clear that the women are working independently. Otherwise the club would be liable to pay their taxes and social insurance fees.
I can´t believe that the receptionist wouldn´t be willing to moderate a discussion between a female and a male guest about money...
Have fun,
Novize
Does this means that Palace also does not care if the girls are taking medical checks or not? So that they would be cleared from potential liability issues, if someone get STDs and sue the owner. I was just wondeing.
Does anyone know exactly what their policies are, in terms of medical checks. Is this mandatory? or they consider this as a common sense, so that they don't really enforce?
Peace
[QUOTE=Novize]I think it´s more a legal issue.
It´s just to make clear that the women are working independently. Otherwise the club would be liable to pay their taxes and social insurance fees.
I can´t believe that the receptionist wouldn´t be willing to moderate a discussion between a female and a male guest about money...
Have fun,
Novize[/QUOTE]
Medical checks are not mandatory any more in Germany. Some years ago it was a must for the girls to get validated by a medic every two weeks. Nowadays it is up to club to ask for a medical check. I do not now if the Palace wants to see such a paper from the girls, but I suppose they do not. Only a few clubs still do.
BTW: If you get STDs, you can only sue the freelancer (girl).
Math
tyweed,
the german legal system is a lot different with liability issues than america. there isno way that anyone would ever even hear a case regarding getting std's, never ever, not even if you were raped. maybe that would be a criminal court issue. but in consensual, and probably even more so in pay sex, you know there is a risk.
any legal issue is not for liability in a civil case, but so the district attorney and police do not bust them.
this might be in relation to the reason why there was a dearth of girls in world.
Hey Peter,
I am suprised that you are not in Frankfurt now. I read on the German board yesterday that Mascha was to be found at the Palace at the moment and who knows how long she will be there.
Good luck and Cheers,
Dedalus
Viewed from Google Earth.
Good effort Dick.
here is the NON zip version.
Just walked by Palace today. There is some roadwork at the moment, which basically blocks the pathway straight from the U-Bahn to Königsberger Strasse (through the 3m wide opening in the wall).
No real problem, just head ca. 50m towards left/downtown and use the next pathway to the right, then walk back to Königsberger.
Just passed on the way to a meeting. I'm a local and infrequent vistor. Maybe I should check back and compare with my trip to indonesia ;) Yes maybe I should.
Fred, this was nice to see. I looked at some of the other clubs. The clarity of much of Germany is not so good, but Oase is right on the edge of an area of good resolution. You can see the tennis courts, the big house, and the garden area. FKKW has poor resolution.
Bob
[QUOTE=Fred Mercury]Good effort Dick.
here is the NON zip version.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Dick Rambone]Viewed from Google Earth.[/QUOTE]
From that shot, it is hard to recognize anything. Where are the streets?
My guess is that The Palace is not actually where the pointer is pointing in the pic, but actually to the left and down (SW from the pointer).
What use is that ariel photo? Honestly, the directions on the site are sufficient to make your way there. Easiest way without hassle is bring the directions with you and hand them to a taxi driver! I went there a few months ago and only €10 & 10 mins drive from the Hbpt (train stn in centre of Frankfurt).
It is also very easy to get to Palace by the S ban. Get off at the Industriehof station and walk about two blocks. The trains come on a very regular basis so there is not much waiting. Check on the last train of the night from the Industriehof stop to schedule your departure from Palace. I think the cost was about 3,70€ from Frankfurt Mein Hbf. Palace is not that far from the centre of town so it is easy to get there any way you go.
Bob
[QUOTE=Whoswho]What use is that ariel photo? Honestly, the directions on the site are sufficient to make your way there. Easiest way without hassle is bring the directions with you and hand them to a taxi driver! I went there a few months ago and only €10 & 10 mins drive from the Hbpt (train stn in centre of Frankfurt).[/QUOTE]
Hi, while planning my trip I remember once having seen a list of convetions etc. to avoid the crowds in these locations. Anyone feel for giving me a quick guidance please? (Yes, I've tried searching but couldn't really fine any effiscient overview.)
your U
Uggabugga, here is the site for Frankfurt Messe.
beffen
[url]http://www.messefrankfurt.com/corporate/en/messen.html[/url]
Thanx a lot, exacly what I was looking for :-) Is there any other "events" or slots I should avoid?
your U
after spinning my wheels at oase for a few hours, i was anxious to check the lineup at palace, having read the fun reports of fred, dedalus’ and desert fox recent forays there. ortos lingered in the peugot to park and i made a beeline for the palace door. i washed the “oase” off me in the palace showers, grabbed a big towel from the side room and checked out the buffet. i looked around briefly, lots of exotic blondes around- there goes the bionic beauty big diana- my first anal sex. i see angelika is here too, the sarcastic siberian. feeling hungry again, i checked the buffet. there was only salad left so i made a bowl, grabbed some bread and went to sit at the new bulky hightop tables to have a munch. before i reached the table, a lovely dyed- blonde hard body had latched on to me. facially she looked like a cross between pam anderson and sarah jessica parker with a bit of xtina thrown in. she was fairly tall, very fit with a smoking b cup body and a very kind, friendly, engaging demeanor. her name was daniella and she hails from romania (they are everywhere this trip, not a bad thing at all). we had a great talk, she went for some salad too and came back to report that the 10:00 food was being put out. i went back and got chicken schnitzel, incredible sautéed potatoes with pepper and onion, sicilian vegetable pizza, veggies and bean salads and pasta al forno and daniella and i really chowed down after she went and got us drinks.
after we finished the food, daniella and i rested, digested, and relaxed at the table and talked and flirted some more, she of course smoked a couple of fags. soon it was time to visit the zimmer so we went to room 12 where i immediately put all the pillows at the foot of the bed so we were facing the mirror. “i want to watch peppie tv” i said as she giggled and hugged me. we began making out like schoolkids and she was very touchy feely- a good sign. her oral skills are very very good in all regions and she does not get tired. i earned my nickname beffen by giving her what she seemed to crave, prolonged daty and fip while she gyrated and groaned. either she’s been taking acting lessons or i think she had more fun than i did, but i love her. some girls just feel right when you bang them and daniella is just such a lover, it’s more like a dance than a series of positions. and we tried lots of them during our 90 minute romp. i made a new friend.
after paying my dues to my new beloved fave babe, i wandered into the main room where they had two passable dancers every 15 minutes or so do a number on the motorcycle and a pole. i like to sit at the bar right next to the pole and watch. another cool drink and here’s ortos. i apprise him of my find and he sees i am happy as a clam now. now sign of marina. i’m feeling very lazy so i just move around from the loser’s lounge, where a pleasant busty hungarian tried her best to get me. the little moroccan girl is adorable and there is a black girl with just a perfect body. there is a large group of new romanian girls here too, more than i’ve ever seen. a lot of them are very cute. i move to the swings, to the bar area couches. it was here an old friend jumped my bones. frenetic upbeat blonde [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url] ambra launched herself onto my lap- “you don’t remember me from world??” she worked there under another name. it’s good to see you again , we must get together before i go home ambra. but now i’m kaput. ok baby.
kissed ambra bye for now and proceeded with more couch potatoeing. the ratios are very good, lots of available girls and only short waits for rooms on this slow friday. soon a cute very petite romanian brunette comes over and lay next to me. ramona was 22 and she somehow got me going with some [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url] fondling and kisses and offering me her cute little hush puppies. we ended up again in room 12 where i placed the pillows again for best effect and we got down to business. and that’s just what it was- business- the kisses kind of dried up and the 30 minute session was quite forgettable. oh well, i did have a honeymoon with daniella. i returned to the main room where ortos told me of his sessions and kino watching and we hung around until around 2:30 or 3 or so when we returned to the centrum first for a beer and then for some great grilled greek veal and pork, fries, peppers n cheese and grilled rye bread at a joint in the frankfurt rld. skipped the excelsior breakfast again and sacked out. saturday was the day of the oktoberfest party at world so that is enough for one day. i felt i needed to get back to palace though again, real soon.
[QUOTE=Fly Bob]It is also very easy to get to Palace by the S ban. Get off at the Industriehof station and walk about two blocks. The trains come on a very regular basis so there is not much waiting. Check on the last train of the night from the Industriehof stop to schedule your departure from Palace. I think the cost was about 3,70€ from Frankfurt Mein Hbf. Palace is not that far from the centre of town so it is easy to get there any way you go.[/QUOTE]
It is the U-bahn, not the S-bahn. It is 1.70€ or 1.80€ (I forget exactly) each way. The last train back from Industriehof is 1:44 AM, but check the schedule at the station to be sure.
Much cheaper than a taxi, but then even the taxi is not bad at 10-15€ to the center of town.
Viagrant, you are correct, it is the U-bahn. Both the U6 and U7 go to this stop. From Frankfurt Main Hbf you have to make one connection but it is very straight forward. The hardest part is getting on the right underground in Frankfurt Hbf. You will know that you are getting close when the train is above ground.
Bob
[QUOTE=Viagrant]It is the U-bahn, not the S-bahn. It is 1.70€ or 1.80€ (I forget exactly) each way. The last train back from Industriehof is 1:44 AM, but check the schedule at the station to be sure.
Much cheaper than a taxi, but then even the taxi is not bad at 10-15€ to the center of town.[/QUOTE]
I was in Frankfurt for 3 days from 4th to 6th Oct. I went to Palace on the 4th and 6th, and I went to Oase on the 5th. I had 10 women in total over the 3 days, and all were good experiences expect one. I also met members Wry Cooter and Stinky Pete, both nice guys.
Here is a comparison of both clubs :
Location : Winner - FKK Palace, because its about 5k from the center of Frankfurt, and 5 mins walk from the Ibis Hotel. FKK Oase is in the middle of the Countryside.
Women : Winner - FKK Oase, I found women here averaged 8 on the 0 - 10 scale, and the women in Palace averaged 7. Of course there are plenty of stunners in both places. Also there are about twice the number of women in Oase, approx 80 - 100 at night. Performance in the room was similar in both clubs
Cheap/free thrills : Winner - FKK Oase, the women is Oase allow a much better "test drive" than in Palace. I must have groped and touched 1/2 the women present in Oase the day I was there, with no problems at all. I even French kissed 3 women who i didnt go the room with, and I even fingered one of them. None of those women gave out to me for not taking them to the room. I tend to flirt and joke alot with the women, so i suppose that helps, I also lash out alot of compliments which doesnt hurt either. The downside of this is that the women are much pushier in Oase than in Palace. But if you say no , then leave you alone (eventually). Id say atleast 20 women touched my cock duing the day I spent in Oase.- Christ Im getting horny thinking about it again.
Rip offs/ bad experiences : Winner - Fkk Oase. Ok I only had 2 sessions in Oase and one of those was a 3 some. Both of those sessions were very good and memorable. I had 1 bad experience in Palace, and that was with that Czech girl with the huge tits Linda. I was dozing on one of the big swings, when she woke me and asked could she sit beside me, I said yes. Immediately she started kissing me, and rubbing my cock, while i rubbed her tits. She then asked if i wanted to go to the room, and I said maybe later. She then stood up and demanded that I give her 50 euro now and that we could go to the room when i wanted. I was pissed off because i really dont fancy her, and felt she kinda caught me off gaurd. But to avoid trouble I paid her and went for the session later that night, and really didnt enjoy it. But I guess one bad session out of 10 isnt bad. I also had a problem with Mia, fat Turkish girl with huge tits. I rimmed her during the session and then when we went to the locker , she said I owed her an extra 50 euro for the rimming. I told her that was crap ( no pun intended), and that she should have pointed it out earlier. I could have gone to the manager, but we eventually settled on 25 euro. I decided she might deserve the 25 euro cos we had long couch action. anyway whats another 25 euro on top of 500.
Relaxing athmosphere : Winner - FKk Palace, due to the less pushy attitude of the women Id say Palace is more relaxing. Although the pool and garden areas of Oase are quite relaxing.
Facilites : Winner - FKK Oase, becuase its way bigger and has a garden, 2 proper whirpools, a decent sized pool, 2 saunas, and a steam room. Palace has one sauna and a turkish bath that doesnt have steam. Palace has this small pool/whilrpool combo, but it only has jets in the center and if you sit in it you are far away from the jets. Both have similar type Kinos. Palace has 2 bars , while Oase only has one small crowded bar.
Food : Winner - FKK Palace, the food is more extensive and they have desert. the food in Oase is ok, and certainly does the job. Lack of dessert was a dissapointment for this fat bastard.
Summary : i would say FKK Oase is better overall, but If you dont want to get constantly hassled by girls, then go to Palace. Although I dont mind getting constantly hassled by girls cos its great for cheap thrills.
Bottom line - both places are fucking great, and I have had 100s of wanks thinking about my experiences in these places since i first went last March!!!
Oh and of course Palace has robes and Oase doesnt.
Theres an Austrian hottie named Gaby that works the day shift in Palace. She is late 20's or 30ish. She is about 5'6'' and slimish with blonde hair, very pretty face and normally wears stockings or long boots. She also has a gold filling or cap on one of her teeth.
She has been present in Palace the four times I have been there, and I still never managed to get around to fucking her. I cant get this girl out of my head. I pray that she will be there when i return in November. On my last day in Palace in Oct 6th, she way lying on her belly on one of the couches, and I stopped to talk her while rubbing her delicious bottom, I pushed my fingers in and rubbed her anus and pussy abit, but all this was just after a session, and i needed time to recover.. anyway i just never got around to her.
I am wanking over this girl everyday now!!!
Has anyone done her???
Fred Mercury, I've never had the pleasure but she is one of the girls with pictures on the Palace website. Her service includes 69, BBBJ, kissing and cuddling, erotic massage, testicle massage, lesbian games, dildo play, you can cum on her body, foot fetish, and ass play (which is distinct from analverkher, anal sex).
GABY
ALTER:29
GRÖSSE: 1,64
SERVICE: FRANZÖSISCH BEIDSEITIG - FRANZÖSISCH OHNE - KÜSSEN UND SCHMUSEN - EROTISCHE MASSAGEN - HODENMASSAGE - LESBENSPIELE - DILDOSPIELE - KÖRPERBESAMUNG -FUSSEROTIK - ANALSPIELE
Thanks for that Fats.
[url]http://www.fkk-palace.de/girls.php?id=33&back2site=1[/url]
Ive noticed that she also spends alot of time sitting around with her legs open, showing off her beautiful ****.
Being on a European tour, I decided to check out the famous FKK clubs in Frankfurt. Supposedly nudist clubs, FKK´s are really upscale brothels. In the case of the Palace, it´s a combination health club/ disco/ all you can eat buffet (food and girls) and somewhat over decorated *****house.
I hit the club at about 9PM. The drill is to pay 65 Euro ($100) as an entrance fee. This gets you in, allows you to use the shower and sauna and hot tub facilities, all the food you can eat and your clothing for the evening - a pair of flip-flops (apparently mandatory) and a towel. The food was not all that great, but having travelled all day, I was too hungry to pass it up.
The girls were naked except for high heels and sometimes a wrap around their waists and outnumbered the guys about 2:1. Quality wise, there were a number of 6´s and 7´s with a couple of low 8´s. No real stunners unfortunately. Off the main disco/ health club room were a number of smaller rooms in various gaudy decors.
I decided to chill for a while and check out the scenery before selecting my company. The girls were a little agressive and I prowled the perimeter avoiding eye contact for about an hour. Finally, I picked a slim, blonde German girl around 25 called Diana. After some difficult small talk (my German isn´t that good), we hit 1 of the small side rooms. The charge was 50E ($75) for a half-hour. I was offered an upgrade to include bbbj and dfk for an additional 50E but passed it up. Diana was friendly enough, but it was evident that the girls are business-oriented and aim for high turnover. So twenty minutes later, we were out of the room and back into the general population. Performance was reasonable, but a little scripted and of course non-GFE. Looks were fine. Diana was 1 of the 8´s.
There followed a period of panic and misery as I discovered I had lost my glasses. (They later turned up at the front desk. Apparently the all-too-German staff collects anything left lying around for more than a few seconds and reports it to the manager´s office.)
With no glasses, all the girls started to look like 9´s and 10´s and I spotted a cute, slighty curvy Czech girl called Patricia (another of the 8´s). I smiled and she wandered over and groped my thingie through my towel. But there was a problem - no small rooms were available. She said she had an idea and led me to a porno theatre room decorated with fake zebra skin throw pillows. A hugely fat German guy was getting blown in the corner and Patricia suggested the same arragement. 100E ($150) would get me gfe with dfk and bbbjtc-cim. Well who wouldn´t want to get publicly blown in a porno theater, decorated in fake zebra and overweight ejaculating German businessmen??!!
To her credit, P was a true artist and gave me 1 of the best bbbjtc´s I have ever had. This pretty much concluded my nite as I was out of $ and (probably) semen as well.
My 2nd nite was WAY better than the 1st. I went looking for Patricia again. But whenever I spotted her for the first hour or so she was with another of a series of different guys. (She must be the highest volume bbbjtc-cim/ dfk provider in Western Europe.) Finally, I gave up and selected a cute tall Romanian called Allegra, in her early 20's, a tall slim brunette. Great choice! She was an 8 plus in looks. And when she got into the little room, she gave me full EE service - dfk, daty, bls, bbbj and fs - all for E50! She told me only cim is extra - 50E more. So the girls on my first nite had scammed me!!! I passed on the cim as not worth 2x the normal fee, but Allegra was such a sweetie I told her I'd see her again later.
I recovered and showered and then selected another tall, slender, gorgeous Romanian called Mona. Much the same deal, except Mona was more experienced and aggressive in bed than Allegra. Her bls wandered down close to Mr A and for a few euros more, I suspect I could have had a rj.
I did Allegra 1x more. At that point, we had to wait for 1 of the side rooms to come free and she passed the waiting time by playing with my cock in public while I pinched and sucked her hot little tits and got her nipps rock hard. After that, I called it a nite. Much of my time had been spent in the hot-tub and sauna or grabbing free food at the buffet. Plus, waiting for the girls to finish with other guys had taken time as well. So I ended up spending almost 5 hours there. There was a gorgeous 9-quality black girl I didn't get to talk to all nite. And when that little hussy Patricia finally finished with her 15th other guy of the nite, I could honestly (and smugly) tell her I was "too tired" to spend any time with her.
All in all a definite recommend and I had to force myself to get on the train for Paris and leave FKK-land behind.
Oagre,
About your first night in Palace, you wrote:
"Finally, I picked a slim, blonde German girl around 25 called Diana. After some difficult small talk (my German isn´t that good), we hit 1 of the small side rooms. The charge was 50E ($75) for a half-hour. I was offered an upgrade to include bbbj and dfk for an additional 50E but passed it up. Diana was friendly enough, but it was evident that the girls are business-oriented and aim for high turnover. So twenty minutes later, we were out of the room and back into the general population. Performance was reasonable, but a little scripted and of course non-GFE. Looks were fine. Diana was 1 of the 8´s."
You picked badly here, partner. Diana is one of the notorious "optik-fuck" girls in this FKK business. You fuck her just for her looks. You should have done your research better than you would know: A) This particular girl (who is actually Russian or Lithuanian in origin, I believe) does not offer a particularly GFE performance, but is well-known as a "mechanic." B) That the 50E/30min session does include BBBJ and DFK as included in the standard price without any up-grade fee! Clearly she smelled that you were inexperienced and she tried to take advantage of you. As I was at Palace just a few days before you, I know that there were several other girls there that would have provided a much better "bang for your buck," i.e. provided DFK and BBBJ at No cost extra for 50E!
Your job is to select session partners more carefully and not be ripped-off or manipulated. This will come with time and more experience.
Thanks for your great two reports!
Ortos
To all Linda fans I can confirm that she was observed at FKK Oase recently having no problems attracting new clients. Seemed to be busy all night. ;-)
Actually, I saw it coming as Diana reminded me of a similar player at the strip clubs around my home town of Toronto. Just seemed to give off the same vibe. But it was early on my first nite there and she was the best looking girl in the club at the time and I was anxious to nail some tail. I deked her maneuvres on nite #2 and got some far better sex.
BTW do you know who the young black girl who wears a pearl choker was? She was the best looker in the joint. I was so busy doing my Romanian pick-ups, I didn't have the cash, time or energy to get to the choker-girl.
Do you have to pay 50 Euro for cum over her body?(not face)
And when you come in her mouth can you come over her face to?or just in her mouth?
[QUOTE=nordboer]Do you have to pay 50 Euro for cum over her body?(not face)
And when you come in her mouth can you come over her face to?or just in her mouth?[/QUOTE]
There are conflicting experiences on COB. Most will not charge extra for it, but be sure to ask first as some have been known to charge extra for it.
I do not know about cum on face. I have never asked myself, but I've read a few reports of girls that are ok with it, don't remember who though. Jennifer from DR at Oase once could not handle a few days load I had stored, so she decided to administer COF instead. She giggled about the whole thing while going on. Quite a fun girl. Have not seen her at Oase since June though.
Be sure to ask first and if ok, be a nice guy and avoid the eyes. I would guess that most will not allow it, but if anyone knows otherwise, please correct me.
Chivaz
There are 18 girls with photos on the Palace website who list their "service". Of these 18, five (Kelly, Lola, Alexa, Charlie, and Sofia) offer gesichtbesamung, or COF. That is about 28% so it seems to be not that uncommon.
[QUOTE=nordboer]Do you have to pay 50 Euro for cum over her body?(not face)
And when you come in her mouth can you come over her face to?or just in her mouth?[/QUOTE]
As others said, it is best to ask the girl ahead of time about extras. I always ask about CIM *before* I agree to go to a room. I have had several girls tell me that they will not do CIM, and that saved me a disappointing session if I was in the mood for CIM.
V.
After a boring time at Oase, I stopped by Palace.
For some reason I decided to go with Daniela from Columbia. Too late did I realize that I'd done this girl before, at Oase. She has a great set of breasts, but the problem was: As soon as we got into the room, she wanted to know if I would like to spend an hour with her (100E) rather than the standard half hour (50E). I smiled and politely said I'd like just half an hour, but she did not give up. She kept going on and on, even after she'd started a poor BBBJ, she would occasionally stop and ask for an hour.
At that point I was losing interest, and just wanted to get it over with. The BBBJ and sex was uninspired.
Absolutely not recommended.
Hi guys,
I will be going to Germany (supposedly for work) on Dec. 8-10. As I needed to stay one night in Frankfurt, I decided that Ibis in Frankfurt West could be a good hotel to stay in ... :-). Sounds like the hotel neighbourhood isn't that bad ... is it?
Well, it'll be my first time ever in a FKK. I have read general infos on FKKs and your unvaluable reports ... anyway, should anyone have some more detailed infos, please add them (can't miss girls, girls to avoid at all costs, etc.) ! I'll be in Palace on Friday 9, say from 5pm to Gos knows when.
For a North American, Frankfurt is a weird place. The FKK's aside, it must be the most boring city on the planet. Nothing to do, very quiet, little of interest. The Ibis is a nice, large hotel with complete bathrooms and tv in every room, obviously aimed at the travelling businessman who doesn't want to spend Marriott $$, but wants somewhere nice to stay. It's about a ten minute subway ride from the main train station and what passes for Frankfurt's "downtown". The neighbourhood is essentially a business suburb and the hotel is surrounded by low-rise office buildings and small factories and some low-rise apartment blocks. Very quiet, but it seemed quite safe, if rather uninteresting. There seemed to be no difficulty with vacancy on the weekend and I was readily given a room, even arriving at 8PM on a Friday.
Well I just arrived back at the hotel from palace and all I can say is Damn! I only had time for 2 pops and the first was with Monica, from poland, it was good, lots of foreplay on the couch then willing to do anything once in the room. Next was Julia who said she was from germany but looked nothing like any german that i have seen i will give more details, later. Next is on to world tonight. If you see me say hey i'll be the one in the green robe!
czechs and balance at the palace: sunday 9th october
notice: posting of this report was delayed for a variety of factors: floods, fires, plagues, locusts, the current republican investigations, probably al qaeda, maybe the german elections, and possibly higher interest rates and gas prices. i assure everyone that it has nothing whatsoever to do with laziness; however chivaz’s and admiral’s timely reports from the field and their spirited dedication to the cause of up-to-date journalism have left me hanging my head in shame for not braving all of these odds and doing my civic duties. mea culpa, omnesium.
a pretty intense work schedule and some ludicrous travel arrangements made meeting my fellow female-chasers a less than feasible option. still, it had been a while since my last fkk trip so i was trying to best to figure out a solution. it would require some quirky travel plans but it would also be well worth the effort to hook up fred, beffen and st. ortos, not to mention the sexy ladies at whichever den of desire was decided upon.
i phoned fred to inform him that i was ready, willing and able to make a frankfurt fkk run and that he could expect me in mainhattan around 6:00 pm. we tossed the idea of going to palace or world around and in the end decided upon palace. clearly beffen’s infatuation will daniela played a huge roll in our decision.
i picked the boys up at the excelsior and we arrived at the palace around 6:45. after donning towels and storing our euros we settled ourselves to take in and evaluate the sights. it would not take long for daniela to saunter by and catch beffen’s eye. this meant that after beffen’s pre-love repast that the cutest romanian in the club would be occupied for an eon. no matter, for despite it being a sunday, there were a number of talented ladies in attendance.
there was no sign of marina or cindy (not surprising for a sunday) yet dilara, ambra, linda, simone, biene, elena(spain), a cute and funny greek lady (whose name escapes me, ortos help?) and quite a number of unknowns (to me, anyway) were hanging around. i spied a tall, tattooed and attractive blond who looks-wise seemed like a winner. also a petite short-haired blond who i nearly dismissed because of her rather small breast presentation. i could not help notice that she was constantly busy and always had a sexy smile on her face. this would later be enough to pique my interest.
i joined bef and daniela for a nice chat and a smoke. she is a cutie and it was all i could do to not run away with her while beffen was enjoying his dinner. however magnanimous gentleman that i am, i opted to wait my turn and be content with her charming company “zu dritt”. daniela kept suggesting that one of her romanian colleagues would certainly be happy to take me to the tv/vip room with her and the beffster, but i declined thinking that it might be nice to seek out simone after a quick dip in the whirlpool.
i spotted her lounging alone and looking lonely. gentleman that i am, i decided to engage her in light conversation to alleviate her boredom. after a little small-talk we headed off to a room for some engagement of a more intimate sort. she is a very competent girl and, while i would not classify her sessions as earth-shattering, she is a sweet girl with a darn cute body and i have always been satisfied with her. this night was no exception.
name: simone
hair: dirty blond
size: ~ 1,65 m
figure: slender, c-breasts enhanced usually wears a silk wrap around her waist
origin: czech
age: ~ 26
service: great bbbj, kisses but no dfk, good session.
location: palace
the session with simone helped me work up an appetite. i am still of the opinion that palace eats are the best eats of any club. you really have to give credit to the management on this one, for i remember back in march when they had a run of some pretty bad catering. people complained and they did something about it. would that this were the case in a few other clubs.
beffen, perhaps famished from his joyride with daniela, enjoyed his second meal with me. ortos had arrived by this time so there was more catching up to do. during the meal we noticed fred walking by with a tantalizing looker who i would later discover to be tiffany. also, the petit blonde with the small breasts and the cute smile walked by our table. i caught her eye and she caught my and she beamed me one of those cute grins. ortos enquired whether or not i knew this girl and i had to confess ignorance. i was informed (keen recon. inspector that st. ortos is!) that she had been doing good business on the other days that ortos was there and that she seemed to lavish a bunch of tlc on her guests before leading them bed-bound. i was becoming more and more interested!
some minutes went past and the young lady walked by so we locked eyes again. she boldly strolled over to our table, got very close to my person, said hello and introduced herself. her name is vicky and she comes from the czech republic. she was fairly new at the palace and, in fact to germany. she became “friendly” rather quickly. for the guys out there that like girls who kiss, then this is your lady. we engaged in some pretty heavy petty, groping, and spit-swapping right there at our makeshift dining table. i could already tell that this one was going to be a winner!
in the room i quickly discovered that her public displays of affection were not just a show to drum up business. i really believe that vicky enjoys using her lips and tongue. can it be possible that someone possesses such talent without enjoying it on some level? despite a chest that is pretty bare, she has a great figure (she has, what i have heard some germans refer to as “an ass like a duck’s”) and amazing skin! i did not even give her a chance to get to the bed before i started to go to work on this girl, or vice versa. she is tiny and while i am no wilt chamberlain, some of the acts that i was committing on this girl as we were standing up, did require some flexibility on both our parts. when we finally decide to give the bed a try she continued to deliver an absolutely mind-boggling blowjob. gents, the girl does a thing with her bead necklace, her mouth, hands and my dedalus jr. that is truly amazing!
the rest of the sex was no less remarkable. most of you will know what i mean when i say that there are a handful of girls in the fkk scene who have a special instinct as to how to position themselves (regardless of the kama sutra position that is being practiced) so that penis/vagina contact is…well….right. cindy is one. andrea(form. world), marina, angelique, melanie, lizzie, vivian, ilka. vicky belongs to this group and she may actually outdistance them all as well. every one of the half dozen or so sexual positions that we tried just felt like heaven. again, this girl is tiny but her dexterity is seemingly limitless.
it was a super session and one that i plan to repeat often. i do declare friends; this girl gets my highest recommendations.
name: vicky
hair: short, blond
size: ~ 1,40 m
figure: petit, slender, a-breasts what an ass!!!! great legs as well
origin: czech
age: 20
service: super. great bbbj, dfk!!!, seemingly endless stamina!
location: palace
i was pretty sure that my romp with vicky, energy drainer that it was, would do me in for the evening. i had fred’s tiffany in the back of my mind as a possible endgame for the evening, but i would require a little regenerative sleep before continuing my nocturnal activities. the top tier of the kino is my favorite palace-place to do what our buddy novize refers to as “extreme relaxing”. not really sure how much “live kino-sex” i snored my way through during my two sleep –sessions that evening, but according to the boys, it was plentiful.
i think that it was around 2:15 am that i woke up feeling that special urge to merge and headed off in search of tiffany. like simone i found her looking lonely on that same couch so i decided to rectify this. this tall, blonde babe of spanish/german descent is quite a looker. her legs alone are enough to merit a session. she is also miss tattoo-woman; sporting body art on her left thigh, stomach, hinder and probably a few other regions that i have since forgotten.
i give the girl high marks for our session. spooning her was especially “geil” as the germans say. i still think longingly of those legs of hers. my only complaint is that she needs to learn that her teeth and my penis don’t like each other so much when she is practicing her oral-arts at neck-break speeds. other than that, she is a fine performer. not quite in vicky’s league, but certainly a worthwhile venture.
name: tiffany
hair: blond
size: ~ 1,70 m
figure: slender, a-breast, legs! many ornamental tattoos
origin: spanish/german
born: ~ 1982?
service: bbbj, dfk,
location: palace
the tiffany-session would definitely spell the end of my sexual escapades for that evening. i must have been quite zonked for while dozing in the kino, according to fred and beffen, i completely missed the moans and other animal noises that czech linda was emitting while riding away on some fortunate fellow. i think that i really earned my fatigue. three really good sessions, one of which ran the table. palace rules! (at least for the moment.)
cheers all,
dedalus
Damn, why did you have to mention Elena. I got hard just reading her name. And then on top of that you had to mention Vicky! I'm in big trouble when I show up at Palace next week. :p :p
[QUOTE=Akibono]Damn, why did you have to mention Elena. I got hard just reading her name. And then on top of that you had to mention Vicky! I'm in big trouble when I show up at Palace next week. :p :p[/QUOTE]
Glad that I could help :-)) You should have fun as Palace is hot right now. I was there last night and Elena was also around and about; Looking good and is a bit trimmer than when I went with her last spring. I hope that the delay on that report will be minimal.
Cheers,
Dedalus
Hi Dedalus!
Great Report! Brings back good memories and superb vibes in my groin area...
Btw, you just wrote:
"I was there last night and Elena was also around and about; Looking good and is a bit trimmer than when I went with her last spring."
I seem to remember you went with/wrote about a girl named Eleni last Spring. I wonder if this is really the same girl, Elena, or not? Eleni was Rosso-Ponti, Ethnic Greeks from a part of the former Soviet Union bordering Georgia on the Black Sea. This Elena, may well be a different girl...? Not sure...
Ortos
[QUOTE=Ortos]
Btw, you just wrote:
"I was there last night and Elena was also around and about; Looking good and is a bit trimmer than when I went with her last spring."
I seem to remember you went with/wrote about a girl named Eleni last Spring. I wonder if this is really the same girl, Elena, or not? Eleni was Rosso-Ponti, Ethnic Greeks from a part of the former Soviet Union bordering Georgia on the Black Sea. This Elena, may well be a different girl...? Not sure...
Ortos[/QUOTE]
Good memory. No Elena is Spanish. She was the cute smiley one with a nice chest. (Big help, huh?)
Eleni was there last night as well.
Cheers,
Dedalus
To Dedalus and Chivaz (and anyone else at Palace during the last fewe days):
I have an interesting question for you guys:
We all know that Oase was raided last week and that mostly Romanian girls at BHH --perhaps more or less the entire Oase Romanian contingent-- was carted away by the Polizie because of dodgy legal papers, etc.
At the same time there have been reports that World also is lacking in the Romanian/Bulgarian numbers they used to boast.
I remember that about a month ago, when I visited Palace in the company of Dedalus and Beffen, there was a significant number of young, rather fresh-to-the-scene 20-22 yr old student types from Romania.
Could those of you who have visited Palace with the past few days comment:
Are these Romanian girls still working Palace? or were they absent, perhaps lying low for a while in the aftermath of The Raid?
Ortos
[QUOTE=Ortos]
Could those of you who have visited Palace with the past few days comment:
Are these Romanian girls still working Palace? or were they absent, perhaps lying low for a while in the aftermath of The Raid?
Ortos[/QUOTE]
Daniela is still working. ( I think I can hear Beffen shouting.) Ambra and Bianca were absent. A good number of those Romanians that we saw last October were not around.
Cheers,
Dedalus
Thanks, Dedalus. Yeah, that's is what I suspected unfortunately, that they disappeared after Oase got raided. Lying low and not wanting to risk getting kicked out of Germany in case Palace gets visited by Polizei...
Daniella is in a different category: a bit older, more established. Almost definitely she has her legal status worked out better than these new, younger Romanian girls.
Thanks again,
Ortos
In reading the board, I notice that one needs to be lucky or careful in choosing who to go with. As a newbie one will probably stick out like a sore thumb (or something! ) and thus possibly be open to the expereinced predators. See a report of Diana down below.
Obviously I wish to avoid disappontment. Any advice? are the names that should raise a red flag? More importantly are there names that I should not less pass me by!
Thanks
Adam
[QUOTE=Dedalus]name: Vicky
hair: short, blond
size: ~ 1,40 m
figure: petit, slender, a-breasts What an ass!!!! Great legs as well
origin: Czech
Age: 20
service: Super. great bbbj, DFK!!!, seemingly endless stamina!
location: Palace
[/QUOTE]
Weight: 40 kgs (88 pounds)
Report coming up soon.
Chivaz
Is Ignatzmice down today or does my comuter need some viagra?
Sorry to post here but I know you fellas would be in the loop!
[QUOTE=Chivaz]Weight: 40 kgs (88 pounds)
Report coming up soon.
Chivaz[/QUOTE]
To quote Vicky from when I saw her, "20 years and 40 kilos".
That girl might get the award for most enthusiasm, and definitely has the "teeanager look".
My report:
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=395610&postcount=630[/url]
Thanks to all those who post in this thread -- because of you, I am eagerly anticipating my first FKK experience at the Palace when I am in Frankfurt next month. (Reading through the recent posts has been [I]very[/I] educational.) I will be there most of the day on Sat, Dec. 17, after a few days of intense business. If one of my mongering brethren would care to join me and serve as unofficial guide (kind of like Virgil to my Dante), I'll pay your entrance fee to express my appreciation.
Thanks,
Ned
after double clubing at world and oase on friday, team chivaz had decided to head for oase on saturday. i was in contact with dedalus who was going to join us. as dedalus is starting his trip, we talk to each other to synchronise the plans. dedalus had received info on mariana working at palace this night, and the option of double clubing oase and then palace was in the cards. after some discussion with my team, we suggested to skip oase and make palace the choice of the evening, a decision we did not regret. dedalus was more than happy to follow that suggestion and i think he had quite a success with one of his favorites. i will let him take care of those details.
we arrived late afternoon. dedalus had already arrived and greated us by the downstairs bar. the rest of the team was introduced and soon we were into the general discussion of who is who doing this and that etc. as always dedalus is a great source of info and i have yet to fail on one of his reccommendations.
when going through the initial introduction my mates to dedalus, we see this tiny girl wave smiling to ded. "this is vicky from czeck" he told us. she would indeed be tested later that night by two members of team chivaz, and if memory does not fail me, dedalus did some exploring of his own.
we took a seat upstairs on the long sofas by the bar. palace was in excellent shape this night, lots of stunners and the atmosphere was vibrant and fun with the girls dancing around, smiling and having genuine fun.
dedalus pointed out jill to me from far. i did not notice her that much so i soon forgot her looks. jill has gotten some bad reviews in the past. soon afterwards, i decide to relax in the kino. while i am there, this girl comes in and sits with me. we start talking, but she does not speak english, and it would be stretching it to say i can speak german although i can understand much of it when spoken. i had already committed to the session by letting her go for the bbbj in the kino before i got her name. "jill" she said. "fuck" i thought. well, what the hell, what is the worst thing that will happen, i will blow 50e on mediocre sex. let's try to make the most of it.
and i made the most of it. jill has some attitude problems. she started complaining about calluses on my hands (which are really minimal from sports activities) when i was stroking her. i just ignored it. she made some strange facial expressions and i ignored them to. she tried to administer the session, but i just pretended i could not understand her. after a while i guess she just gave up and started to just chill and enjoy the session. all of a sudden my calluses were no problem, my fingers were allowed to explore all openings, and she actually dfk'ed. i gave her a prolonged daty and we had good sex and it ended up beeing an hour session. the climax had a sense of accomplishment, victory of sorts.
the paradox is that i will probably never go with her again, i just had to work too damn hard, and i would never reccommend her to anyone. still it was a great session.
while hanging out on the lower floor, i noticed this girl dancing close to the motorcycle (this was at a time there were 8-10 girls dancing around by the pole). this was a girl i would probably not had choosen, but she was doing quite a sexy number. after her performance, she heads for the shower by the sauna. when she got back, i called her over and we ended up in a room. her name is tia and is from turkey. really a sweet girl with very nice facial features. rather tall with largish bone structure, not really thin but not fat either.
my last session of the night was one hour session with vicky from czeck republic. vicky has gotten good reviews and her looks have been described by others, but i still feel the need to make my version.
vicky is indeed a tiny girl. she told me she weighs 40 kgs and i believe her. her breasts are pretty much non existent. she is beyond [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]. if i had not received such a favourably review by both dedalus and one of my mates who had just ended up doing one hour session with her, i would probably not have gone with her. there was a wait for room, and all the sofas in the waiting area were busy so we layed on a pile of pillows by the rooms.
we were just relaxing there and i could sense this might be a problem for me, the girl is just so damn tiny i had to reinforce my mind. "she is 20 years old" i had to say to myself couple of times. how tiny is she? i am average size guy with average sizer hands and i could touch both her nipples with one hand without squezing them together (not that it matter, her breasts are so small, there is nothing to squeze).
when we got into the session, all my worries disappeared in a second. this girl knows what to do. "i know what men want" she told me when i asked where she got the imagination of doing some of the stuff, and the poses she does them in oh man oh man. she did things to me i did not even know had sexual meaning to me until she did them. she will leave no area of your body unexplored. her deep throat is pretty good. the only thing i did not like that much was when she was sucking my fingers, she all of a sudden showed them down her throat. her deep throating my hand was not something i found sexual at all, but each for his own.
vicky has gotten a permanent seat on my repeat list for the future.
one thing i must mention favouring the palace staff: we had some business to take care of for couple of hours during the night so we had to leave the club. we got tickets for return. when we were located at other end of town, two of us realized we had forgotten our money in the lockers. on the returning ticket we had was a phone number. i called the number and the woman behind the desk told us as we were returning again, she would not give out our keys, but keep them until our return. i told her we had forgotten quite some sums in our lockers. when we got back, the girl that greats the guests pulled up her sleeve and there she had our keys strapped to her own wrist. she had done this as an extra precaution as we had told her we had forgotten our money in the lockers. palace got extra points from the team for great response towards our concern about the money in the lockers.
as of now, palace had taken over the top spot from oase in my mind. this will probably change the next trip. i am not very consistent with my favorites anyway.
we left the place around 3am, and it was still pretty lively at that time. we were not able to find dedalus to say goodbye, but i later found out he had been napping in the kino. until next time ded...
chivaz
[QUOTE=Adam6969]In reading the board, I notice that one needs to be lucky or careful in choosing who to go with. As a newbie one will probably stick out like a sore thumb (or something! ) and thus possibly be open to the expereinced predators. See a report of Diana down below.
Obviously I wish to avoid disappontment. Any advice? are the names that should raise a red flag? More importantly are there names that I should not less pass me by!
Thanks
Adam[/QUOTE]
Hi Adam,
I'll tell you that the chances of a bad session are very very slim. The thing is that there are many girls at FKKs that give such an excellent sessions that we tend to raise the bar pretty high. Chances are that your worst session in FKK will be similar to average to good session in any RLD in Europe. Don't get preoccupied by names. Find your own gems, trust your instincts and tread some unknown water. It is always great to find a gem that has not been reported.
I have gotten great sessions from girls that have gotten bad reports and I have also gotten below average service from much appraised girls. The girls are just like anyone else, they have their good and bad days.
I have also fallen into the trap of trying too much finding a certain girl that time has passed me by and valuable session time has been lost. On my more recent trips I have gone with the attitude of "take some chances in between dude" and I have been rewarded.
Chivaz
Ill be in Oase on tues Nov 22nd and Palace on 23rd. Please PM me if anyone wants to meet up.
Agenda is :
Flight arrives at 10am on 22nd. I plan to take train from Airport and then change for S5 to Bad homburg. I will then take a taxi to Oase, so I should hit Oase around 12pm. I will stay untill around 2 am, then take a cab to Ibis Frankfurt west.
Hope to hit Palace next day by 12pm and will stay untill 6pm, then its back to the Airport with empty sack and even emptier wallet.
Cant wait. Ive had many erotic thoughts about Oase since spending a day there one month ago.
cheers
Fred
Hey Wan,
That's great you are going to visit Oase and Palace: my two favourite clubs, love them both in slightly different ways. Too bad you have to visit Palace on a Weds between 12.00 and 18.00. It means you will be leaving an hour or two before main shift of top girls arrives and starts working. The dayshift at Palace is nothing like the Nightshift, most experienced Palace visitors will tell you.
One thing you might consider, assuming you can afford it, is trying to visit both clubs during your first day. Perhaps go straight to Oase, spend a few hours and then leave around 19.00-20.30. (You get to see the Oase day and night shifts. The day shift at Oase is more usually more extensive and generally impressive than Palace's day shift, btw)
Then leave Oase (w/re-entry pass, just in case you want to return), take a break and taxi/S-bahn back to Frankfurt. Check into your hotel, Ibis West (Just a 5min walk from Palace). Then you can visit Palace at your leisure anytime during the rest of the evening. You will be able to see and experience Palace at it's night time Prime. Alot, lot better than when the sun is shining, believe me.
This gives you the advantage of making a more informed choice on your second (last day), to choose carefully which club you want to go back to for your last few hours fkking. When you're on a tight time schedule and you know you won't get back to FKKs for a long time, you want to maximise your exposure to the girl line-ups at each club. Don't underestimate the power of studying the girl assemblages at each club on your first day. Then you always have the chance to set up repeat sessions with special girls for the second day...
Ortos
Hey Ortos,
I have been to Palace 4 times, so i know what the night is like. I have only been to Oase once and really liked it, so i want to spend all day there. As for the palace day line up - well theres always a few I like such as Gaby from Austria.
If i had to money I would spend a week out of every month visiting FKK clubs, but alas I have to be content with 2/3 days every 6/8 weeks.
cheers,
Fred
I just want some clarification on the services provided. Is DATY considered something extra on top of the normal bbbj & cfs? Or is it included with it? Or does it purely depend on the provider?
Thanks for your help.
Hi there
I'm going to palace tomorrow friday 09/11
I really hope Natalie will be there.
Will report on monday.
[QUOTE=Red Stripe]I just want some clarification on the services provided. Is DATY considered something extra on top of the normal bbbj & cfs? Or is it included with it? Or does it purely depend on the provider?
Thanks for your help.[/QUOTE]
I have never gone with a girl that objected to DATY, but then again there have been some I did not fancy to DATY. It purely depends on the girl and you should never be asked to pay extra for it.
Some girls don't like fingers in their pussy though. I usually just ask them before if there is something they don't like.
Chivaz
Plan on going, maybe Weds/Sat.
PM me if you might be there.
[QUOTE=Dadou29]Hi there
I'm going to palace tomorrow friday 09/11
I really hope Natalie will be there.
Will report on monday.[/QUOTE]
Do you mean 11/11? :-)
Nathalie (the Czech one, not the other two Natalies) is usually there Mon-Sat nights, but sometimes takes off Friday or Saturday (or both), as I learned the hard way recently.
V.
I was at Palace last night, Thurs. No sign of Natalie last night. But there were many other choices. It is hit or miss.
Some girls I observed and recognised:
Czech Linda (Big Boobs!) often working in tandem with the other Czech buxum girl, shorter Beatrice.
Tall, Blonde Diana (Lith)
Jessie, Venesuela holding court in the kino, as normal
Linda, Cuba
Linda, Seychelles (lost alot of weight, btw)
Eleni, Greek-Russian (also lost alot of weight, btw)
Nelly, Khazak, looking a bit older and now wearing black stockings
The Czech, gypsy girl, Helena, who used to work at Oase (lost weight, still top ass.
Ukranian Sascha...not too busy, but not my type.
Romanian Christina, dark haired somewhat chunky, good performer
The tall, statuesque, (bad attitude, for me at least, Romanian Alyssa, ex-World (Nein, danke!)
Missing last night: No Czech Natalie or Vicky!! Scheisse! No Romanian Daniella (although I arrived at 22.00 so maybe she was gone by then). No super young, new to scene Romanians, Bella, Ambra, etc. No Tiffany from Germany.
This is just a snapshot of the line-up from last night. Let's see how the weekend looks...
But again, like Oase, several new (for me anyway) girls who need to be tried...
Ortos
I admit that I am a newbie in this forum, and that my first FKK experience will be next Thursday and Friday at the Palace. So maybe I just haven't yet experienced the stimulation that you all have!!
Still, in reading the reports of others I am struck by how many guys seem to hook up with more than 3 girls in a night, some even say 5! Do the guys actually come 5 times in a night? or do several of these sessions involve outstanding sex without actually cumming - which can still be great fun and very memorable?
Enquiring minds, charged with anticipation, want to know!
Thanks
Adam
Anyone wants to meet up at the Palace please let me know. I will be in Frankfurt from the 14th to the 18th of November 2005
I checked this place out on Thurs. Sorry, didn't bother to remember any names probably because the girls weren't very memorable. First girl was from the Ukraine. Offered CIM for 100 euro. Passed and just sck/fck.
Next was a German w/a very pretty face. Got mad that I didn't cum in 2 seconds...I could tell.
Anyways, I'm here till the 21st and looking to go out again. I went to the Oase and got killed on the cab fare. I'm looking for someone to do some FKK trips if they want to save on cab fare. I'm staying at the Le Meridian near the Frankfurt Hbf. PM if interested.
Nowadays when I go to any FKK, I set myself a rule that 2 sessions maximum (and a few hours between the sessions). This way, I know I can finish in both sessions.
When I went to FKK the first time (now defunct infamous Atlantis), I tried 4 - 5 sessions. Simply there were too many attractive ladies there. The first session was fun. The second session, actually, was even more enjoyable. Then the 3rd and the 4th, it got increasingly more difficult. And the 5th session was like shooting a blank (and it required incredible amount of physical and mental work to complete). This happened in 13 - 14 hour duration.
After doing this a couple more times, I realized that I was not enjoying it after the 2nd session (and sometimes I could not finish after the 2nd session either).
Each person is different, and some guys may perform much better than I do. I just wanted to give my 2 cents.
I have similar experience as Rain City, usually limit the number by 3 sessions a day, although once in a while I will go for only 2, and if I am feeling exceptionally good and have a lot of time to kill, I will go for 4.
I went the same route, doing 4-6 sessions in a long day when I first started, all of them 1/2 hour sessions (the sixth orgasm of the day could actually be painful at times, but I was just over zealous). Now I tend to go for longer and fewer sessions.
Chivaz
[QUOTE=Chivaz]I have similar experience as Rain City, usually limit the number by 3 sessions a day, although once in a while I will go for only 2, and if I am feeling exceptionally good and have a lot of time to kill, I will go for 4.
I welcome these honest answers from Chivaz and Rain City, they will help me temper my enthusiasm and likely increase my enjoyment later this week!
Cheers!
Adam
[QUOTE=Adam6969]I admit that I am a newbie in this forum, and that my first FKK experience will be next Thursday and Friday at the Palace. So maybe I just haven't yet experienced the stimulation that you all have!!
Still, in reading the reports of others I am struck by how many guys seem to hook up with more than 3 girls in a night, some even say 5! Do the guys actually come 5 times in a night? or do several of these sessions involve outstanding sex without actually cumming - which can still be great fun and very memorable?
Enquiring minds, charged with anticipation, want to know!
Thanks
Adam[/QUOTE]
At first I overfocused on "spreading the cost of my entry fee" to lower my average cost/piece of tail. Now, I realize it is best to just consider that a "sunk cost."
Typically 2-3 over several hours (6-8). Best I've done was 5 girls/12 hours, but it was an exceptional night, and last 2 were just too hard to finish.
It's about pacing, not settling, and realizing that the place (or another like it) will likely still be there when you return.
Hi,
I am an Norwegian man often in transit in Frankfurt on my way to work around the world. I have been to FKK P several times, but always alone. I would like to go together with one or two "friend". I would very much like to try to a treesome (FMM). I have tried one with two of the ladys at the FKK. It was very nice, but now I would like to try FMM+. When I was there last time I spoke with some of the girls and they had nothing agains the idea, but I was alone! One of them even offered DP. So if there is anyone that like the idea, please let me know.
Best regards, K. O. (The Viking)
Just wanted to thank all the gents for posting about Palace because you have led me to the Fountain of Youth!
I visited the establishment on the this past weekend and after reading so many of the posts here it was as familiar as a neighborhood park.
On the first night I only had 100 Euros above and beyond the cover charge and had planned on going for two sessions with two girls. Instead, no sooner than I got there (it was sixish I think) than a German named Jasmine started giving me conversation. She was a knockout with perfect skin on a perfect body so even though I was a bit miffed at having been essentially jumped the nanosecond I lay down on one of the couches I knew at least there was no way I could have done much better in the looks department at least.
So Jasmine rode me off to the kino and a couple minutes later we took the room. She was friendly and personable enough but no dfk, no fingering and no daty (hey, doesn't that feel a little weird to all of you? after all these are prostitutes!). Anyway, I was nervous and I think I would have had a hard time coming so I reluctantly agreed for the cim option even if that meant heading home less than half an hour after getting there.
Again, Jasmine has an exceptional body with taut, not-a-single-blemish skin and perfect breasts. Her vag is shaved (er, excuse me *waxed*!) and sports a ring but I would have much preferred to go down on it all for a truly memorable experience.
The next night I tapped into the ATM again for another theoretical two sessions. This time there actually was food (beef in sauce and noodles) and I ate next to the Spanish girl named Elena who I declined on the dubious grounds that she had funky looking teeth but regret it now because she was very friendly and we had spoken at length. Beautoeus knockers on a small frame.
For the first round I ended up instead in a cum-less session with Linda the Cuban. This is not her real name but (this is weird) she confided it to me so I'd rather not disclose it. Anyway, what's important is that we got along very well because we both have outgoing personalities. On the other hand, the actual session was too hurried for me to relax and close the deal so I told her we were done some 5-10 minutes into it which somewhat disappointed her (if that's the right word?!) but ended up outside chatting and horsing around afterwards. That's called good customer relations!
I can't complain about the sex or her body or face but nothing extraordinary in that respect either. She's all about personality. Which would be great if we were there for making friends, right?
The highlight was my final girl who goes by the stage name Tia (actual name Aman) who hails from exotic Turkey though she claims was born in Germany and somehow has ties to the Ukraine. Who cares. She blew my mind when I saw her gyrating by the pole to gypsy music and all smiles and lots of hip swinging. She's 20 and a 10 on the Richter body scale with a pretty face to match. You know, the kind of girl that were she living in the States would probably not give you the time of day. Let alone be in this line of business!
When I made my move we just went straight to the room. She was friendly but not very chatty. No DATY or fingering with her either, bummer, but at least dfk'd briefly. After 5 minutes of so of straight missionary pounding away to little effect I turned on my back and she finished the task with a handjob/bj combo (is there an acronym for THAT??) which took what seemed like an eternity. It shouldn't be this difficult with such a hot woman. Probably has to do with the rubbers, which I'm not used to (yeah, I'm married).
All three girls spoke good English.
I didn't stick around much longer after that. I tried asking Elena about hooking up at my hotel but she said no way. Watch out however for the tall Dominican (she looks rather old) - I saw her at the money lockers stiffing a guy for a full hour while he was claiming only half. He harrumphed then paid without making a fuss and for all I know maybe she was right but having spoken to her briefly while in the company of "Linda" I got the sense of all red flags about her.
It's a piece of cake getting there by Bahn. From the hauptbahnhof you take the S train (5 or 6, just ask ANYONE there, everyone is friendly). Get off at hauptwache which is about 3 stops later and then get on the Ubahn to industriehof (another 4-5 stops or so). From there it's a straight walk w/o a single turn in the *opposite* direction of the Seattle tower-like building in the skyline.
I don't know...
I think the stage whereby a newbie goes through quantity over quality is difficult to avoid. First there's the shock of walking into a club for the first time and seeing all the beautiful naked flesh... there's that "kid in a candy shop" effect. Second, not being familiar with the girls, inexperience of spotting the tell tale signs of the quick buck girls particularly the optikfick ones... present a problem. Last but not least, your little head takes over all the thinking.
We've all been there. It's a good idea to go with a game plan, but don't be afraid to break them. Nothing wrong with doing a half-dozen 30 minute sessions your first day, pop on every other session and encounter a couple of dud girls in the process. Actually I think it's easier to learn the ropes that way.
If you go in with the mindset that you're going to limit yourself to an x number of sessions, and off the bat you can't tell the good girls from the bad ones, how are you going to insure yourself quality sessions? Yeah there are plenty of advice on the topic here, and generally it's spot on but... I can't count the times where I thought I built a great rapport with a girl out in the main room and she turned into a dead lay, and conversely met girls whose intro and reception were positively chilly but I took a chance and they turned into these mind blowing uber GFE/PSE sessions that I would've missed out on had I decided to move on to other offerings.
Either way it's hard to have a bad time if you tried. I can think of worse things than having a sore willy after shagging too many girls in 1 day. ;)
Good luck
[QUOTE=Adam6969]Do the guys actually come 5 times in a night? or do several of these sessions involve outstanding sex without actually cumming - which can still be great fun and very memorable?[/QUOTE]
Everybody has to find that one out for himself. I have done plenty of sportfuck sessions where the goal is to get about 5 shots off. As for me, this only works if I stay for 12 hours or more. If you read my posts on these, then you will see that I am not getting off every time. No big deal to me. I just move on. Or, after shooting a blank, I see this as a signal to call it a day.
But before you get too much awed by other people's performance reports, please keep these three things in mind:
1. Once you step into a good FKK, you will find that the atmosphere is incredibly stimulating. All of these naked women do wonders for your desire. So you may go at it more often than you knew you could.
2. If you chat with many of the guys inside the FKK, you will find that almost everybody is fored to kill time beteen pops. It just takes the average male body a bit of time to recover after unloading.
3. Almost everybody's performance varies. I have evenings, where I am done after just one pop. And then there are others days, where I do more.
Also, it is important to remember that most men like to brag a bit, and few people like to post their weaker moments ;)
Finally, the number is not really the goal. The quality of the individual session is. If you search through my posts, you will find that some of my best experiences have been evening where I have limited myself to having sex with only one provider - in particular this worked really well for me in the Rio termas.
euro
What's about the girl with the crown, slim body elegent moves, fully dressed burnette?
I saw her yesterday in the Palace but she seems to refuse every one, so I didn't even ask her, I asked one of the other girls and all i knew is that her name is Jenny!
Any info?
Adam6969,
Don't be impressed by the performance reports on this board. Yes, as Euro suggested, some might brag a bit. But most important, the FKK environment will make you discover unknown part of yourself. The maximum of sessions I had once was 6, but in a period of time from 10AM till 5AM. Needless to say, my last session was painfull. As I can go to FKK only once in a while, I'll go to the limits, and usually manage 5 sessions between 10AM and 5AM. I never had erections problems, but I usually will come only 3 times on 5 sessions. I believe that if I could go to FKK on a regular basis, let's say every week, I would not make more than 2 sessions a night.
By the way, I bought some Viagra during my last trip in Brazil, as it is available without prescription there. I never tried it, and plan to try it on my next FKK tour. Does anyone have experience about it, I mean in an FKK environmemnt that is allready stimulating enough? As I have no problems with erection, but problems with coming, I'm not sure it is a good experience to try.
Hi,
I am an Norwegian man (33 years old) often in Frankfurt (in transit) on my way to work (worldwide). I have been to the FKK Palace several times, but always alone. I find it difficult to come in contact with other visitors (men) at the FKK. I have tried a treesome with two of the ladies at the FKK Palace, it was a very nice (full serice), but Iwould like to try a FMM+. I have spoken with some of the girls regarding this and they are ok with it (one even ofered to do a DP), but I have always been alone. And the girl will not co-ordinate a FMM(+). So if there is anybody that would like to join me at the FKK Palace please let me know.
Best regards,
K. Olsen
Went during the day and then at night. I was surprised to see the same set of girls working till closing when I came back later in the night. Wow! Anyway, I'm bad w/names but my first session was w/a Czech girl, long brown hair and nicely sized tits. She offered anal for 100 euro but passed. CIM for 50 euro. She said she wanted a nice explosion in her mouth. Maybe this line will ring a bell for anyone. She was okay. Wouldn't repeat though. Later in the night I went w/a German girl. Long brown hair, nice tan. Same experience as the previous German girl I was with. If you don't cum in 2 seconds they start copping an attitude. Are there any other FKKs around or is there another alternative? I've been warned about the RLD, so how about the escort scene?
Viagra has been a lifesaver for me as I have had erection problems since I was in my teens! Since taking it, I now have dependable, long-lasting woodies and I - and my partners - are much, much happier.
However, be aware that ALL viagra does is open up the capillaries in your penis and allow blood to flow in more fully. It's purely a physical thing. I will not make you hornier.
I find that viagra's effects last for 4-5 hours and during that time I can get massive, rock hard woodies every time I feel even slightly horny.
However, I also find it takes me a long time to come when I am using. So if your problem is "I can get hard, but I cannot come", stay well away from viagra.
It's also affected by the food-load in your belly. So the buffet table at FFK-Palace is viagra's enemy.
When I visited Place, I had no trouble going 3x the first nite and still had gas in the tank and jerked off back at my hotel room. The 2nd nite, I ate more and was naturally tired after a few hours at the club and had a little difficulty getting hard and getting off my third time and gave up after that. Had I fucked more girls more quickly and not eaten, I could have fucked five or 6 times, I think.
After reading recent posts and the FAQ, I noticed that nobody has ever mentioned condoms. I assume you just show up with a bunch -- but do you carry them around in your robe? (Are there pockets?) Or do the girls have their own they prefer to use?
Secondly, what sort of limits are there outside the private rooms, when you're in the "negotiation stage" -- touching, petting, kissing, etc?
Thanks,
Ned
I arrived there around 6.30 pm after a 5 hour drive from Paris.
I saw her waiting in the line for the food with a plate in her hands. I said to myself : I already know that I don't regret this tiring journey !
I go to the locker to take my clothes off and put my bathrobe on and....................................... no more Natalie !!!!!!!!!!
She sometimes don't work on saturday night, that's what another czech girl told me afterwards.
I had 3 great sessions :
- Catherine : blond Russian girl. Incredible BBBJTC. Very soft skin. Very GFE.
- A little Dominican girl with thin body, long curly hair and nice tanned skin. Great service. A lot of energy in the kino and in the room.
- A tall Romanian girl with a great body, big tits and long hair. Fantastic BBBJ with a special CIM because it was half in and half out of the mouth : the porn movie CIM if you prefer.
Then we went to the Ibis nextdoor for 56euros.
We met some chinese american guys from San Francisco who came all the way from there just to enjoy FKK Oase and Palace on a 3 days trip !!! I found somebody crazier than me !!!
What an evening ! Thank you Frankfurt !
I'm going back on friday 11/25 but I'll be there at 4pm for NATALIE !!!
[QUOTE=Nedsprofhlp]After reading recent posts and the FAQ, I noticed that nobody has ever mentioned condoms. I assume you just show up with a bunch -- but do you carry them around in your robe? (Are there pockets?) Or do the girls have their own they prefer to use?
Secondly, what sort of limits are there outside the private rooms, when you're in the "negotiation stage" -- touching, petting, kissing, etc?
Thanks,
Ned[/QUOTE]
The girls have condoms. You can bring your favorite type if you like, I don't think they will mind. I have always used theirs.
There are no official time limits outside the room, but I would say everything above 10-15 minutes would count as taking advantage of the situation and kind of overdoing it. Sometimes you get into the "wait for room" situation and then there is of course no limit as you are waiting for the room.
Chivaz
I was in Palace on Friday and Saturday. At first, I was rather disappointed because Elena and Anya were both missing. I was looking forward to a session with both of them.
However, the night was quickly redeemed by spotting Vicky which you mentioned in good detail. I could tell her right away by the way she was kissing a customer. She was wearing a thin boa around her tiny, tiny waist which functioned like a tail. It was a costumed theme night.
We engaged in some passionate kissing before heading leisurely to a room where more passionate activities continued. This is the first girl I will describe as a PSE. Her BBBJ are to die for. She knows how to hit all the right buttons with perfect technique. Plus, she will continue until you tell her to stop. Nothing was off limits including finger fucking (most girls hate this for obvious reasons). At first, I was a bit concerned because she had a scar from a C section. Sometimes the girls are really loose after they have had a baby. But she had one of the tightest pussy I have every encountered. I banged away with passion. And we repeated this two more times in the 3 sessions we had. Normally, I consider one enough, but she was so passionate. Best of all, she is not a clock watcher and really aims to please. I have not encountered a girls that really like sex that much. I could tell she really had a good time and enjoys her control over men.
Returned on Saturday and had another session with Vicky again. Man is that girl addictive.
One of the things I have noticed is a prominent sign at the entrance saying that Palace has nothing to do the the transactions between the girl and the customer. So, I guess if you have a dispute, you are on you own. Second, most of the customers appear to be German locals. They seemed to stick to short sessions and I found quite a few of the girls to have a rather unfriendly demeanor. The club seemed to be not very busy compared to previous visits.
Hi there,
Has anybody seen Cindy lately (tall polish blond with big tits) ?
Thanks
Dadou29: Cindy is now working at FKK Artemis in Berlin.
Visited this past Monday. Arrived from overseas in the morning, worked all day, then went out for fun jet-lag be damned.
Saw a really perky snaggle-toothed Romanian first, named Bianca. Petite, slim, claimed to be 19 (which appeared feasible.) Cute, with a nice smile save for one missing upper canine. No tats/piercings. Brunette, with a nice figure. Good service and excellent BBBJ/CIM. 50+50E Might see again.
Recovered and saw big-titted Czech Linda again. The girl is my downfall. I know she's playing me, hard-selling extras, but she is fun. Spent 1.5 hrs with Linda in a room. Incredible BBBJ for a solid 45 minutes, with excellent deep throat action and phenomenal ball-licking. She took a break, and we chatted a bit. I asked what here favorite position was - she immediately grinned ear-to-ear and said ANAL! Well, no shit - she gets extra cash for it. It's obvious that Linda is pushing for an upsell, telling you how wonderful you are, and so on, all for extra bucks. But, she does deliver. Ass--fucked her halfway past tomorrow then finished with a CIM/swallow. Expensive habit though. 150+100 for 90 minutes plus debauchery. Need to break that habit. To expensive. She's good though, if you just decide to believe the "lies" for a while.
Rested up a bit more, then against better judgement went off with German Caroline from Dusseldorf. She was really pretty adn sweet, with teenagers body (Althoug she's 22). Dark blonde streaked hair. Nice smile, tat on lower back. Decent BBBJ and DFK, but absolutely no CIM allowed. Should have checked. Good cowgirl though. However, after 2 pops and jetlag, no go. She was sweet though, and I might see her again. Really good English. Was convinced she had no accent, and found it funny that I told her she most certainly did, but that it didn't matter. 50E
I'll be there again Saturday, 19Nov. If you see someone that you can definitely say is "1-of-a-kind," it's me.
Can anyone advise if Marina is still at Palace and what are the best days to hook up with her?
I am making a rare visit to FKK land. Staying one week, and Marina is front and centre on my to-do list.
Planning to be at Palace on Friday 25th of this month after about 9pm. PM me please if you want to meet up.
I know Czech Linda is really popular on the board, but I think she is ugly. I know she has great tits but thats about it.
Cachorro: I was in the Palace on Saturday, November 5th. I saw her at about 6 PM. I caught her going to her locker but she already had something lined up and said she would be free at about 8:30. I saw her coming and going a few times but she was always busy till 10:30 when she went home. A weekday should be better than the weekend but she is almost always busy, some guys take her to the room for hours on end. So if you see her I hope your luck is better than mine, take care.
[QUOTE=Wan King]I know Czech Linda is really poular on the board, but I think she is ugly. I know she has great tits but thats about it.[/QUOTE]
You're entitled to your opinion. There are definitely prettier girls at the Palace. I'm working on sampling a good number of them. Linda is not the best in the eye candy department. But her service, even as much as she is gigging for the upsell, is really top notch. She keeps at it, never tries to rush you, and makes sure you have a good time. She may as a result pry a few more ducats out of you, but she does work for it.
Plus, as Ben Franklin once said, "all cats are grey in the dark."
Well, I has posed several newbie questions over the last couple of weeks and got really good feedback.
One question was how do guys go with 3-5 girls in a single day?
I now have the answer - its almost impossible not too! I spent several hours on each of 2 days and spent quality time with 4 girls each day.
Palace FKK is incredible!! Large numbers of stunning girls, all friendly, all availbale and willing, no hard sell, unlimited options available.
Another question I had asked related to telling the great girls from the good girls in advance. I now have the answer to that. Its not possible.
I attempted to employ the strategies suggested: observe the pre-zimmer action, watch the time and look for the satisfaction quotient on the guys faces afterwards. There was really quite little pre-zimmer action to observe, the layout makes time monitoring difficult and as far as I could tell everybody was grining like fools after the sessions.
Somebody had said: you cannot have a bad time even if you try! Right on target!
I made all the newbie errors:
I succumbed to the agressive Kino prowlers,
I went for the optic fuck
BUT I had no nbad experience atall.
My luck changed from good to marvellous in encounter number 7 when a pretty blonde sat beside me on the couch and began to chat in perfect English with an oh so sexy French accent. She introduced herself as Natalie!
Memories of "good vibes" I had read about here on the board filled my brain (but specifics were not remebered). WE chatted for 20 minutes on the couch - she was delightful and not pushy atall and then retired to a room for 90 unbelievable minutes. BBBJ, DATY, FIP, multiple position FS, a special show from her of self pleasuring....in a mirrored room - beyond description. BUT.....what distinguished this girl from all others was that she was "real". No lines, no pitch, nothing mechanical or scripted. She genuinely gave of her person. She told much about her life her views on things. She is very articulate and highly educated and a joy to spend time with, sex notwithstanding. This is what the senior members wrote about when advising to find the right girl and spend quality time with her rather than multiple slam-bams. They are right too. This encountered had all the physical that any other did but in additio it had heapings of "chemistry" too!
I am glad I had these 2 days! In a curious way I'm also glad that I dont forsee any trips to Frankfurt in my immediate future. This FKK has the potential to be dangerously addictive.
ISG and its members was invaluable in preparing me to get the absolute most out of this trip. Thanks to all!
Over (and probably out)
Adam
I will be in Frankfurt next month and am interested in visiting a FKK. The FKK Palace Frankfurt? Where is it? Close to Downtown. I will be staying near the main train station. So....Any advise would be great. If I could get there by tram? Also what are the prices for this place?
I have visited FKK35 before, but recent reviews are not that great.
[QUOTE=DFWdude]I will be in Frankfurt next month and am interested in visiting a FKK. The FKK Palace Frankfurt? Where is it? Close to Downtown. I will be staying near the main train station. So....Any advise would be great. If I could get there by tram? Also what are the prices for this place?
I have visited FKK35 before, but recent reviews are not that great.[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=387973&postcount=572[/url] is all you need. Remember to check the "Reports of Distinction". There you will find the stuff you need for each club.
Chivaz
Memorable encounters 1.
For the newbies, or potential newbies, I will describe some of my newbie experiences to allay any concerns you might harbor. I was anxious going in, with no German, not being young, and not as fit as I once was. The logistics, location, means of transport and pricing are adequately and absolutely accurately described in these pages. I went by taxi from Airport Sheraton at a (probably wasted cost) of 26 Euros each way.
One of my first encounters was with Linda from Czech. Linda is a tall, poised, very attractive girl with brown hair (tied up on this day) who was wearing a white piece of chiffon tied in a bow to the side, choker-style around her neck and fake diamond earrings, she walked around slowly and elegantly in white high-heeled shoes with a pleasant smile on her face. She has a slim tanned body with incredible large (almost gravity-defying) natural breasts. She exuded elegance on this day and looked, to me, incredibly sexy. She could have been straight from the playboy centerfold!
I do not recall exactly how we got talking, but I am almost certain she approached me. It was not long until we retired to a dimly lit large bedded mirrored private room and had an incredible time. Slow rapturous BBBJ – it was warm, wet, swirling, and her lips would tighten periodically – phenomenal. She licked and suckled the shaved boys with much glee. We moved to 69 with her on top which was delicious. To look up and watch her swallowing me whole in the view between her enormous hanging breasts was mind-blowing. Add to this FIP and you understand my memories. We moved to mish for the finish and that image too will last with me for a long time also. Me above her, and sliding in and out watching her lovely pretty smiling face with the chiffon choker and diamonds. Her with her hands stretched over her head causing the breasts to sit perfectly between us was a sight to behold, together with soft moaning noises of encouragement. Then her long, long legs with white high heel still on wrapped around me urging me , pulling me to completion. That must be as good as it gets – delicious sex with a playboy centerfold goddess!!!
Linda keeps herself busy. I never saw her sitting and relaxing. I must have seen her over a dozen times elegantly leading some lucky guy to or from a room. She knows her trade and works to maximize it, a notion which somewhat taints the memory. But, since that is why we go there, its probably not a fair assessment by me. She did ask about staying for a full hour and then about CIM not soon after our session began. Even though this felt a little like upselling because it came so early, it might have been nothing more than her being fair in establishing parameters, considering I was a newbie. In the interests of preserving a fabulous memory, I give Linda the benefit of any doubt.
In summary: Linda from Czech – no regrets whatsoever and a memory for a lifetime.
Other reviews to follow will include Nicoletta from Romania, Elena (Eleni?) from Greece and Patricia from Deutchsland.
There were 2 incredibly attractive girls that I regret not approaching.
The first was blond, tall and slim with 34 - 36 c breasts who sat with her friend, blonder and slimmer in a carefully selected, choice spot beneath the railings at the top of the steps leading up to the main bar. The two of them always returned to the same spot after sessions and seemed to have “rights” on that spot. She was quite forward in her manner with any guy who stopped to talk. She was stunning, possibly the best looking girl there BUT she never, never broke into a smile of a laugh. This killed it for me. I like smiles. I did once stop to talk as she was caressing her breasts and told her that I agreed her breasts were amazing and she responded (without cracking a smile) I just want to have more sex!!! Wow – and I passed. That decision will haunt me for a while.
The next was also a blond stunner who distinguished herself by ALWAYS smiling. More angular facial features. She was never alone as far as I could tell. I have no idea of her name but she was very popular. I think her smile was a big part of it. Might she be the oft mentioned Daniella? Who knows.
Adam
After my first encounter which was a classic newbie optic fuck at the girls request after approaching me in the Kino and excluded DFK, included CBJ and totally lacked chemistry with Anastasia from Lithuania, I went to sit by the whirlpool.
There, I observed a slim beauty with tanned skin and long cascading blond curls talking with a guy and laughing a lot. It was mid afternoon. They were laughing and joking loudly and she was slowly stroking his fully erect long cock right there in full view of me. Now I had been there only an hour and to see this was eye opening. They went to a room and I closed my eyes to rest having flown overnight without much sleep the night before. I awoke sometime later as she deliberately brushed my face as she passed on her way back from their session. She smiled and winked as I opened my eyes. I thought….that poor guy just finished up with minutes ago and she’s out trolling again before she even picked up her payment!
I dozed off again and when I awoke she was back in her spot by the whirlpool alone and eating a banana. Our eyes caught. Next thing she deep throated the banana and slightly spread her thighs and stroked herself, all of this was for my benefit as her eyes locked on me. I started laughing as did she. She motioned me over with her finger and I just smiled back. She came over to me, all bubbly and smiling slim and sexy sexy hot. She started stroking my chest, rubbed her curly hair on my face. We exchanged our getting to know you pleasantries. She was Nicolletta from Romania. She DFK’d me next and stroked me full erection and almost to a premature release right there. Her tongue is amazing, she can make it firm and hard something like a thumb and almost mouth-fucks with it, one can suck on it like a thumb. It was intensely erotic! We went to a room and I thrilled for 60 minutes of delicious FS including BBBJTC (CIM) and continuous DFK. To watch her service me in the mirror with her bouncy blond curls was a joy. She is a thin waif with tiny breasts but long nipples. This was intense sex and fun company. The only negative was her high pitched sharp grating voice but our full contact activities left her free to speak very little. She claims to only work days. Others have described as looking a little like Christine Aquillera or Sara Jessica Parker and they are accurate, so long as she doesn’t speak. I would definitely recommend her company. I planned to see her the next day but it didn’t happen – I’m not certain she was there at the same time as I was the next day.
[QUOTE=Adam6969]The first was blond, tall and slim with 34 - 36 c breasts. The next was also a blondstunner who distinguished herself by ALWAYS smiling.
Adam[/QUOTE]The first one could be Marina from Lithuania, there are different opinions on her on this board. I agree with you, she is maybe the most good looking girl in Palace, but she has been very cold with me, maybe we had a problem with language as she doesn't speak english very well.
I think you are right on the second, she should be Daniela from Romania, amazing girl, I almost (almost?) fell in love with her. Very good service and very sweet and funny person to spend time with. If I will ever go back to Palace I will pick her again for sure.
spent a full day in Palace from 11 am till 12am, and i am now writing this report from the free net terminal in the ibis hotel.
i had a good day, and did 4 women total, 2 good sessions and 2 a bit rushed but still ok. Best was Antastasia from Russia. Shes about 25 years, with dark clurly hair and huge blue eyes. shes a 6 in looks and a 9 in performance.She has smallish sagging boobs which are her worst point, but her performance is total GFE. She gave a good 45 mins between the couch and the room. She also takes fingers in both holes.
I really feel that the talent had dropped since i was there 7 months ago. In the past I always remember a good splattering of 8,s and a few 9,s. But tonight , the highest I encountered was a 7.
Still though, 265 euro for 13 hours of premium adult fun is hard to beat anywhere.
Adam6969 - Were you there Sunday, 11/20? On the prowl for "Amazons?" If so, we might have met.
Anyhow, recent exploits since last report.
Saturday, 11/19 -
Susanna - 20yo light brown/streaked blond, German from Stuttgart. Very pretty, spinal tattoo of family name. Good kissing, good BBBJ, and very good cowgirl. Really a pleasant personality, we clicked nicely and had a great conversation. Will see again, and may even make outside contact when in Stuttgart. 50E (plus 10E tip in a moment of weakness because we spent a lot of time in room afterward jsut cuddling and talking. Really did hit it off well). She made an interesting observation that Yanks tend to be more interested in CIM than Germans are. Curious.
Angelica - in the mood for letting someone else do all the work. Called in Russian/Siberian Angelica ("El Diablo") for one of her always satisfying BBBJCIMWS. There's far better eye candy, but she never disappoints. 50+50E
Alice/Alissa - German of German/Brazilian descent. German mom, black Brazilian dad. Looks alot like Natalie Wood circa "West Side Story." Very petite, nice tight body. Great smile. May see again. 50E
Sunday 11/20
Linda from Cuba. I arrived somewhat early, and place was pretty empty. Struck up a conversation with Cubana Linda. She lives in Nuernberg, divorced from German hubbie, two kids. Pretty nice body for two kids. Average looks, but friendly. Started in kino with bbbj, moved to room for a fuck. Very athletic cowgirl. However, she was one of the very few that started wheedling for a tip when I paid. As a result will likely not see again. 50E, plus 5E to shut her up.
Lina from Czechia. Not LinDa, but her friend Lina. They claim to be sisters for "marketing" purposes, but aren't. They offer a lesbian duo, which should be a strong hint they aren't really sisters. Lina has now been working about 1 month. Very strong resemblance to Linda. "Meaty" well proportioned figure with large tits. Better than Linda's really - better proportioned and not so impacted by gravity. Long brown hair, streaked with blonde. Service levels and activities identical to Linda's. DFK, DATY, excellent BBBJ, CIM & swallow available, greek available. Much tighter ass than Linda because she obviously hasn't yet been ass-fucked as much. Will definitely see again. 50E +100E for greek.
Last, but not least, Jenny from Germany. 19-20yo. From some small town I couldn't quite get. Tiny, petite little thing. Long black hair. Large spinal tat from between shoulders down her back - Turkish word/phrase meaning "large lion?". Excellent DFK, DATY, BBBJ & incredible cowgirl. Tight body, every inch of her taut and firm. You could bounce coins off her natural tits her skin was so firm and tight. Reminded me of an American High School cheerleader. Great smile, pierced upper lip on right side. Kept fiddling with the stud after while we were talking. EXCELLENT kegel control. She could massage my cock with her pussy without even moving at all. Not the prettiest face, but excellent body and skills. Will see again. 50E
Spent 7 hours in the Palace yesterday from 11.30 am till 6.30 pm. The talent was better than the previous day with some 8's being present from about 4pm onwards. I had 2 decent sessions
It was Dessuos day which I had being looking forward to trying for some time. Dessuos day is where the girls have the option of wearing more clothes if they wish. Some girls still opted to go nude, about 50% wore bra/knickers ensembles, and a few other girls wore short black dresses. The girls wearing the dresses also were not wearing any underwear which I found very erotic. I also managed to put my hand up these dresses while talking to some of these girls and that was very erotic indeed.
Just picture this in your horny head : You walk up to the bar, and there is a beautiful tall blonde woman standing there in a short sexy black dress, and you start talking to her. You then slowly touch her leg and you start to feel a twitch in your cock, and then you slowly move your hand up her skirt and discover that she has no underwear on !!! You then let you fingers rub her bottom before moving in and touching her anus and pussy!! For me that is just the horniest thing!!!!!
Another thing i noticed after my 2 days in the Palace, and I confirmed this with some local guys I was talking to, is that the day sessions tend to be less rushed than the night ones. I had 4 day sessions which were all great, and i also had 2 night sessions which were both rushed. Because the place is busy at night, there seem to many girls who are trying their best to get back out on the floor to grab more money, where as in the day time the club the is way more relaxed and the girls I had were not in any rush at all.
to be continued.
You have keen eye, but I think that goes pretty much for all FKK's in Germany / Prague and Termas in Brazil. Seems the best reports come from those that get to the coochie early in the day.
As a monger on vaction/holiday, you have an advantage of beating the in-town businessman/average joe to the "punch" so to speak.
I'm learning a TON from all you guy's hard earned research.
Let me introduce myself. I'm not a newbie by any means. Been hobbying in Toronto and Montreal and posting on those cities review boards for years. But looking to expand my horizon so to speak.
[QUOTE=Chivaz]There are no official time limits outside the room, but I would say everything above 10-15 minutes would count as taking advantage of the situation and kind of overdoing it. Sometimes you get into the "wait for room" situation and then there is of course no limit as you are waiting for the room.
Chivaz[/QUOTE]Just what goes on 'outside the room' so to speak? Is the girl trying to sell you into taking things into the room? I've read that sometimes the girl will initiate BBBJ while your outside the room. Does this go on? If she does, im assuming that you are obligated to go into the room for a session. Am I correct?
Also, if anyone is interested in Toronto or Montreal info Id be more than happy to help out.
Wan King Wrote:
It was Dessuos day which I had being looking forward to trying for some time. Dessuos day is where the girls have the option of wearing more clothes if they wish. Some girls still opted to go nude, about 50% wore bra/knickers ensembles, and a few other girls wore short black dresses.
Wan King
I’m glad to read this report. I had wondered what the dessous night would be like and felt it might be to my liking. . As a general rule I find a partially clad babe far more alluring than a completely naked one, especially when it comes to the chat-up and flirt stages. Earlier reports on this board had said things like “avoid dessous night” or “dessous nights should be banned” and so as a newbie with restricted time options I did. I did have along post coital chat with Natalie (my French accented Belgian legal eagle) about it and she made it sound great. I like the way you describe. It seem much more like real world “scoring” rather than a straight “purchase”.
One question were the bra and knickers of the classy lingerie variety or the back -yard clothes-line variety…horny minds wish to know!
What do other experienced members feel about sessous night?
Are the same girls there or does it draw a different crowd with less perfect forms?
Adam
[QUOTE=Ebauche]Adam6969 - Were you there Sunday, 11/20? On the prowl for "Amazons?" If so, we might have met.
Ebauche: I was there last Thurs and Friday. Unlimited talent. Now I'm back in Boston and still pinching myslef trying to convince myself this really was true! I can think of about 5 other girld that I saw girls that I wish I engaged carnally!
aDAM
I had a total of 9 girls during the week I was there.
Nov 10, Thurs night - Medium height girl from Ukraine. Medium length straight brown hair. Pretty face. She is a fast fuck and wants to get the session over as quickly as possible. CIM. Would not repeat. Next girl was from Germany. Very pretty face and nice dark tan. Dark brown hair w/blond highlights. Nice big tits and has somewhat of a gut. Was noticebly irritated that I would not cum in 2 seconds. No DATY and DFK. Even w/all this being said, I would repeat because I did fck her pretty hard and she could take the pounding.
Nov 12 Sat day/night - I reported this already about the Czech girl I was with. Would not repeat. Went w/a German girl at night, again, reported this in my previous post, would not repeat.
Nov 15 Tues Night - Cuban girl. Okay figure and a little older looking face. However, very nice and an awseome memory because the following nights I came back she remember my NAME! Service was nothing great altough she didn't mind getting a pounding. She did start making hints that she wanted you to cum after a while. CIF instead of CIM. Would not repeat. Okay, here's the first name that I remember because she gave me her number for outcall service. Christine from the Ukraine. Long blond hair w/excellent voluptuous figure and breast implants. Face was okay. Did not like to be licked and touched and especially no DATY and DFK. Very quiet and nice though. Don't know if I would repeat.
Nov 25 Fri night- Okay, this is a girl that everyone might know. She's German and she looks like the girl from the first Apprentice show Katrina Campins. She's medium height, light brown hair, small cute tits and was always smiling! She was also never short of customers taking her to a room. Spoke perfect Engligh. She also had a tatoo down her spine in Jap/Chinese characters. Anyone know who I'm talking about? Anyways, great session w/her.DATY, CIM and her pussy and body felt marvelous. Would definelty repeat and was tempted to repeat w/her again later in the night but didn't since she was so busy. Second girl from Poland - looked Russian. Wasn't that interested - mind still on first girl. Fcked up...would not repeat.
Nov 19 Late Sat night- Czech girl with dark curly/kinky hair and medium height and body size. Upon close inspection, 6-7 in the face category. However, she was extremely nice and accomodating letting me fck her in multiple positions w/out even once complaining that I should cum. Would not repeat though.
I'll try not to be an asshole next time and remember some names.
Was at Palace on Sunday 13th Nov and had two sessions, first was with the brunette Russian Elena and was an excellent session. Plenty of DFK, BBBJ, ball licking and FS.
There was also a smoking hot Ukrainian called Sacha, I approached her while she was on the couch near the harley and asked her to come and join me so we get could to know each other (ie check out her service), however she pushed to go directly to the room, so alas gave her a miss.
However the session with Bianca was the BEST ! Petite Romainian, who I first thought was either drunk on on something. The session in the room was excellent. She provided DFK, excellent deep throat BBBJ, plenty of ball licking and get this ...rimming ! To top if off when the dirrty deed was done, she gave an excellent massage. I asked her for her number and queried if she was available outside of Palace. She said she did not know her phone number ! so I called my cell from hers, however I'd forgotten that I'd turned mine off, so alas I did not get her number for a private session when I return next month...ohh well will just have to go to Palace again next month to get that number, life's a *****
Breadman- you asked-
>>>Just what goes on 'outside the room' so to speak? Is the girl trying to sell you into taking things into the room? I've read that sometimes the girl will initiate BBBJ while your outside the room. Does this go on? If she does, im assuming that you are obligated to go into the room for a session. Am I correct?
Outside the room is the time to flirt. Of course the girl is trying to charm you into going to the room, she is trying to seduce you. There are girls who will want to just chill and talk, that's how some of them rest, by "looking busy". But, if you call her over to sit with you, or if she sits with you invited, you are free to charm her with your wit, and then begin to rub her ass, legs, tits, even pussy, kiss her, nibble on her neck, kiss her lips whatever happens. This you can do for about ten or fifteen minutes, she'll prbably respond and do some stuff to you too. If you like her then suggest a room. If you don't really fancy a room and you tell her that you are kaput and she persists, then go for it keep up with the light foreplay or chit chat or whatever. But in any case, if she gets her lips on your knob, and they will try, you almost certainly bought a thirty minute session. So be careful about that. It's a fun way to hunt certainly.
When you have agreed to go to the room and there is a wait for rooms, that also can be great fun, usually you sit on a couch and either combine talk, make out and do some heavy petting, some girls will blow you- it's fun when they give you a lap dance makeout wait. The wait does not usually count towrads tthe room time, but it could if she relly works it during the wait, let your conscience be your guide. I have friends who came in the hallway waiting for a room. In that case, 50 euro please.
Dessous or not to Dessous,
It certainly is fun to caress a girl over or under her clothes, and to take the things off slowly and maybe wear it around your neck as you...............
uh excuse me. But I still prefer non-dessous- I want em stripped bare. That's just me.
beffen
Greetings gentlemen,
I am thinking of heading to FRA and spending New Years there. Does anyone know what the FKK scene is like during that time?
It's 5am
I'm writing from the Ibis next to the FKK. I just came out.
It was great : at least 50 girls !
I had 3 sessions but I will tell u later because I'm really exhausted.
Just a quick hello and a big applause to Goldy who came from Miami for the week end just for the Palace chicks !!!
I have been saving this little story till now.
I have spent 9 days in FKK clubs this year, and have had sex with 34 FKK women. About 5 of those women have let me finger their anus, and all have been incredibly clean.
Last Tuesday I hooked with a very sexy girl, and we went straight into a 69 in the room. I was licking her pussy and asshole, and then I fingered her pussy. After a while I started teasing her asshole with my finger, and then slowly pushed it in with no objection from her. When I retracted my finger, it was covered in speckles of shit. No guys... I didnt suck my finger clean !!!! I just wiped it in her towel without saying anything. We went on to have to a good fuck and to my knowledge she remainded completely oblivious of the "shitty finger".
Well I guess it was only a matter of time before I came across a shitty ass.
[QUOTE=Death Warrior]There was also a smoking hot Ukrainian called Sacha, I approached her while she was on the couch near the harley and asked her to come and join me so we get could to know each other (ie check out her service), however she pushed to go directly to the room, so alas gave her a miss.[/QUOTE]
Good call, Sasha is not known to be one of the better providers. Her best ratings have been average and some have reported she is way below average.
Chivaz
This board is fabulous for gathering information that makes our FKK experiences better. Somehow, I do not feel any better off after reading Wan King's odds of getting a brown finger... *laughing out oud*
Adam
My two days in Palace last week were totally awesome. I am on a really "horny high" since.
I arrived there at 11.30 am last wednesday, had a shower, changed into my robe and went for a wander around to see what girls were available. It was Dessuos day and there were about 7 or 8 women in the big room and no one in the Kino. I then headed for the Hamam room. The Hamam room is a good sized lounge that has a large Steam Bath (which doesnt actually produce much steam), 2 curtained off massage areas, showers, 2 video games, and some couches. Its a relaxing room that the girls often come to for a break, and play the video games or use their phones. Generally speaking its a kind of "non sex" area.
When I walked into the room there was only one person there, a beautiful young Bulgarian girl. She was texting on her phone and smoking a cigarette. She beckoned me over to her and said in a real cool way.
"Hi Boy, what are you looking for?"
"Maybe you" I replied.
She said her name was Nadia and that she was new to the club. She had a shoulder lenght brown hair, huge bown eyes, a darkish complexsion, small boobs and was wearing a short black skirt and nothing else. I stood infront of her as she was sitting on the couch, and then she just pulled my robe open and started rubbing my now erect cock. She pulled my foreskin back and really squeezed my helmet - lovely!! I reached down and pulled her short skirt up to her waist, and she opened her legs showing off her beautiful pussy. I fell to my knees and pressed my lips to her lips, her large wet pussy lips. I licked her for several minutes and then she said
"Lets go to the room or the kino"
"NO lets go in here" I said pointing to the Hamam. At first she hesitated and then told me to wait, cos she wanted to go and put her bag away. She arrived back after a minute, she was naked and only carrying a condom. We went into the steam room and sat on the bench to the right, sort of out of view. We kissed for a while and then she gave me a long BBBJ. I then got her to stand and bent her over, and licked her asshole and pussy. At this point we were both very sweaty. She finally put the condom on me and I finished her doggy style. Nice - very nice. I found the heat of the Hamam really added to the whole thing.
Adam, correct me if I am wrong but is there not a saying : "shit happens"
Every time I see anything relating to this I crack up...he is lucky it was not a brown dick.
Cheers
[QUOTE=Buzz04]Adam, correct me if I am wrong but is there not a saying : "shit happens"
Every time I see anything relating to this I crack up...he is lucky it was not a brown dick.
Cheers[/QUOTE]
On the subject of brown dick, I remeber an instance with Juliana from Croatia last February. I posted about it: [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=339338&postcount=356[/url]
I really did not get into too much graphic description about it, but it was actually a bit worse than it sounds from the report. Oh man, the smell in the room afterwards. It was still all good though.
Chivaz
Chivaz what can i say.. great report.
You were a decent guy not to tell your friends. if it was me i would have broadcast over the PA system:
"This is Fred, I have just been ass fucking Juliana from Croatia. She shit all over my cock and all over the room. Do not go to room seven, it stinks of Julianas shit. She is a dirty fucking c*nt!!!!"
So Palace on Friday was great. Plenty of women, and plenty of men too. In fact you wouldn't want it much busier than that.
There is a Messe from tomorrow until the 3rd, I'm told. Does this mean Palace will be a zoo this coming weekend?
Am I right to assume that World is a better option when the Messe is on (more space, more rooms, so it can handle more guests)?
Went to Palace last Friday. Had a good time. Went earlier in the day around 4:00 pm. There were a few good looking girls and a few average. No dogs really. Had a decent session with Olympia from Romania. Spoke very good english. Nice personality. A bit rushed, but I really dig her look. Smokin' little body on that girl. Don't know if I'd repeat due to the standard session and the slight rush on her part. Went back later that evening but did not really get inspired for a second round.....although that blonde door lady with the nice boobs sure makes me smile every time I see her. I wonder if she's available?
Dear all,
I am a complete newby for German FKK. I am due to stay the night of Dec. 9 in Frankfurt and, after reading posts, I really look forward to going to Palace. Is any ISG member going to be there on that night?
Thank you in advance
Sventra
I will be at Palace on Dec 2 and again on Dec 7. If any ISG members will be there it would be fun to hook up. Please PM or leave message here.
Happy Hunting
Newbie went to Palace last week and girls were very nice but best of all was Linda, 22 y.o. from Czech. Face-10, body-10+ with natural DD, and service 10. BBBJ, DFK, anal or CIM extra but I declined. Can't recommend more highly.
Gglee
I respect your opinion on Linda, but I personally think she is ugly.
I will give her this though, she is a dedicated hooker. Man I have watched her and she really treats it like a job. That girl works damn hard. She walks from guy to guy sellling herself and many times she gets turned down, but shes like the Terminator and just keeps going.
Last time i was in Palace, I got talking to a girl who was complaining that she wasnt making alot of money. Then I pointed out that she spent the whole time sitting on a couch, to which she replied that she wasnt comfortable walking around hustling men.
I would personally not go so far as to describe Linda as ugly, but I think she is far from pretty. Just kind of regular.
She is pretty nice though although quite professional. I remember when I noticed her for the first time last winter and looking at those tits I just knew I had to try this just for once, ugly or not ugly. I am not a particular fan of big tits, but these are quite extraordinary. The way she jerks you off with her tits is quite nice.
Then I heard she offers anal and I have thought about doing a second session with her, preferably in a mirrored room. I have these mental images of looking at her tits dangling while doing anal doggy.
Chivaz
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
Personally I thought she was pretty good looking and those boobs. :-D
i went to palace for i think my fourth time this past thursday. i have never been dissapointed, and was not this time. the place was packed, but, there seemed to be a lot of women this time. i have been before where there were very few women left after all my fellow mongers were fucking them in the rooms, but this time, quite an international smorgasboard of flesh.
i tried a total of 5 women over about 5 hours. the first was afghani woman, cute as a button with a large tattoo, feshly minted, on her left side and back. she was truly a [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url] type with long dark hair, perkey tits and a cute smile and personality. sucked cock and fucked like a porn star.
second was from russia, her name was elena, with dark hair, and absolutely beautiful. she seduced me at the bar while i was recovering from the afghan experience, by spreading her legs and showing me the most delicious shaved pussy i have ever set eyes upon. some stroking of my cock sealed the deal and we were off to the room for a wild fuckfest. elena liked to "take charge" and that was fine with me. a super session left me totally drained.
third was from germany. brunette 19 years old. a petite, cute girl with a nice personality. an agressive little wench in bed with a penchant for getting banged from behind and looking at us both in the mirror. i can't rmember how many times she said "fuck me" as i obliged from several angles.
fourth was a sympathy fuck from sweden. a tall blonde with a great body but maybe a 5 in the the face. but then again, who gives a shit about the face when it is buried in your lap? as it turns out her father was german and her mother was swedish and she was a product of a holiday visit her father made to sweden many hears ago. she moved to germany when she was two, but, you can definitely see the swedish traits in her. i say she was a "sympathy" fuck because i wasn't really interested in her as much as i was in some other "targets" but she complained of only scoring once that night and she couldnt understand that. she was a seducing type and talked dirty on the couch and rubbed a little feather thing on my body and cock to get me in the mood. so we go to the room and get in to it. she is a sucking a fucking machine. as she was sucking my cock she told me to pull out her dildo from her purse and fuck her with it. nice touch and she seemed to like it. a beautiful shaved, tight, juicy pussy that i finished off with some pounding in several positions.
lastly, it was a tall, lanky woman from romania. 19 years old and a pair of pointy perky tits that just turned me on to no end. by this time of night (3am) i was very tired, but just the sight of her perfect body kept the johnson on track. she offered cim for extra but i declined and did the normal suck and fuck job. she had the tightest pussy of the evening.
all i can say is that palace is like the fanatasy land of pussy. the atmosphere is warmer than other fkk's i've been in. the ladies are varied and of excellent service. the food is really good too!! (of course that is my opinion).
[QUOTE=Oceanview]an international smorgasboard of flesh.[/QUOTE]
ha ha.. well said
Wild-Hair Trip to Palace—Friday Dec. 2
I really had no plans to make a Frankfurt run that day. There was a long list of things to do and I was thinking that a quiet weekend at home would be soothing. Then I heard the rumor: Cindy has been seen at Palace.
I have not been with this Polish Goddess since early March and have not seen her since she up and disappeared and eventually turned up at the new club in Berlin. I was actually squirming with indecision: Should I or shouldn’t I?
Cindy’s reputation is legendary and well earned, and she has been one of my favorites since her Atlantis days. I knew that there was a Messe under way and that Palace would be overrun. I also knew that I would arrive in Frankfurt a bit late. These factors would make cornering this babe a task. It would be a crap-shoot but I decided to roll the dice and was banking on a seven.
Arrived at the main station around 9:30 and ran to the S-bahn. Mistake Number one: I got on a train going in the wrong direction. In my defense, the thoughts of the nasty things that I wanted to do with Cindy were causing no blood to flow to my brain at all. I got out at the next station and decided to leave my travel responsibilities to a sage taxi driver who got me to Palace in one piece.
For a messe day, the club seemed busy but not too busy. I have certainly seen it worse. It did not look like a stupendous line-up, but all the rooms were occupied so I held out hope that there was some good talent tucked away. I almost immediately saw Mike D’s BV villainess. Also Kim, who I have not seen for some time was there. She is looking a little older, but still full of smiles and her body still inspires filthy thoughts. Linda(Czech) was running about; Ambra, who seems frosted at me for not doing a session with her last time; Isi, Eleni, and Kathrin were on display, as well as a few others who looked interesting. Not the most inspiring group, but a few good numbers to be found.
45 minutes passed before I saw Cindy leave a room with a happy and well-worn out victim. I headed to the locker area to make my presence known but heard her tell another guy that it would be a pretty hectic evening and that she hoped he would not be mad at her. “Shit” I thought. For me this meant that it was a wasted trip. 20 minutes later the disappointment was compounded when I saw a toweled Marina walk by. Apparently she had been with a guest since 20:00 and would be staying with him till closing. Some guys have all the luck.
By now I was bordering on depression. The expression, coined by another board member, CUV (Club ungepoppt verlassen) kept going through my head. I was trying to decide on a consolation prize and started to notice the lovely KATHRIN from Russia. I have known this girl for some time; since her Oase days in fact. She has always been a good provider and she is damn attractive. She has a confident and lüstig way about her and just her sexy strut through the club can be an eye-grabber.
I caught her in a free moment sitting alone under the Harley and, turning the tables on her a bit, asked if she would like some Gesellschaft. She giggled and we headed off to wait in the room-line. We had good fortune and got one of the rooms close to the Kino. Kathrin’s service has always been good club standard but I must say that she has really improved since my last session with her. She takes her time, is a nice conversationalist, seems more adventurous than she use to be, and in contrast to previous visits, she does not switch gears or attitudes if you opt for a 30 min. session instead of an hour. Good move on her part. We finished with about ten minutes to spare and she asked me to sit back, relax and enjoy a smoke with her. Great attitude and she really picked me up after my Cindy/Marina disappointment. Repeat factor: 100 %.
name: Kathrin
hair: Blond, sholder length
size: ~ 1,75 m
figure: slender, natural B/C sized breast, and long slender legs
origin: Russian
born: ~ 1982
service: bbbj, kissing, Good service.
other: Look for the pink furry purse
location: Palace/ formerly Oase
After my Kathrin session I was considering heading out as I did not really see anything else to suit my fancy. However while sitting at the bar and enjoying what I figured to be my goodnight coffee, CINDY walked up to the bar and gave me a smile and said hi. I returned the favor and asked how she had been and mentioned that I noticed how busy she was. She agreed and sat down to talk a bit about that evening and how hectic it was. Still not believing that I had a chance to get on her card, I half joked that probably whisking her away for a room-romp was out of the question. I was happily shocked when she grabbed my hand and said “let’s go” (selbstverständlich auf Deutsch). JACKPOT!!!
The wait for a room was fortunately only about 15 minutes and it gave us a chance to talk about the new club in Berlin and her sudden and surprising Palace appearance. Apparently she has a very good customer who has booked her for 3 DAYS. WOW! I hope that the guy is in good health. Also she said that while her plans are to continue to work in Berlin, she will still be hitting Palace on occasion. Good news for those of us who do not make it to the German Hauptstadt on a regular basis.
In the room Cindy was amazing! Despite her long and hectic night (also the previous one) she showed no signs of fatigue and treated me to a fantastic session; wrapping that Baywatch-body of hers all over me. She knows that she has a great body and she digs showing it of for you. Mini Dedalus got to explore every inch of Cindy’s All-Pro figure before she commenced to practice her oral arts on him. Thinking that it might be awhile before I would have a shot at this luscious lady again, I asked if we could extend the session to an hour and she consented. I know that she had a few “dates” scheduled so this was pretty generous on her part. My night was made. Sex with Cindy is incredible! Not a second is wasted. A real professional and a very sweet lady.
name: Cindy
hair: Blonde.
size: ~ 1,70 m
figure: slender, enhanced D sized breast, long slender legs, Pam Anderson body.
origin: Polish
born: ~ 1978
service: bbbj, kissing, GFE to PSE.
location: Artemis in Berlin/Occasional appearance at Palace, form. Atlantis
This could have been a disappointing night: No Vicky. A kidnapped Marina. Full rooms due to the Messe. So-so line-up. But these two reunions made it the best visit that I have had to a club in awhile and I have not had any flop evenings for some time now.
Here’s hoping that all of you who have the Cindy-Bug wait till after this coming Saturday to find the cure.
Cheers,
Dedalus
I totally agree, Kathrin is a very sweet natural blonde who is intelligent and gives good service. It seems that you had a lucky night, I`ve seen both Marina and Cindy and they are absolute stunners, but unfortunately I have never had a session with them, they are always booked.
Very little could tempt me to go to Palace again. But a little of Cindy has a lot to offer. I have not been with her since Atlantis when I was lucky enough to join the queue. And as you say Dedalus, she does not short change or hurry however much money she coul rearn by rushing. Anyway the point of this is - do you know when/if she is working this coming weekend?
I went to The Palace on Friday November 18, Tuesday November 22, and Sunday November 27 (evening/night). I had a great time, as usual, but did not see Czech Nathalie. I wonder what has happened to her?
I had a lot of fun with Leena (spelling?) who was formerly called Beatrice. Nice, busty 23 year old Czech girl with long hair, among others. I was also surprised to see that they had remodeled the men's shower room front area, putting in wooden cabinet shelves.
I will post more later, but just wanted to make short post while I had the chance.
V.
Went to Palace for the second time yesterday after a five months absence. Arrived at 19.00. The first impression was that the male-female ratio was good despite a lot of cars in the parking outside. Showered and went to my favourite position at the corner of the second bar where I could have a good view of the market goods. I was soon following the advice of more seasoned FKKers to smile at the girls.
As soon as I sat down on a stool and was wondering whether I would meet the mythical Cindy a Greek provider tried to chat me up but she was not definitely my type. I chatted along but showed that a session with her did not interest me. As soon as she left I was approached by Leena and Linda (maybe the names are the other way round). Yes, the DD natural breasted Czech and her best friend. Recently there has been some disagreemenst as whether the DD lass is attractive or not. I would say that on paper she does not have the qualities of either a PSE or GFE provider. I would also say that her horsey smile is a little put off. However, we do not live in analytical limbo but in more spontaneous scenarious and she surely sells herself well by looking at your eyes and falshing her PERFECT teeth and smile so that she becomes very attractive and seductive. Her breasts also become highly appealing. have to experience her to understand what I am saying. Anyhow I enjoyed her two-minute company but for me more that C cups are a turn off. It is just my personal likings and have nothing to say against her. I would say that she is beautiful, sexy and seductive but does not get things going for me. Her friend, on the other hand, produced a hard on. Is her name Linda because i am getting confused. I locked my eyes with hers and after some flirting we went off for a room. She was good, allowed DFK but not fingering and had a firm ass that I wanted to slap non-stop during doggy style but did not for obvious reasons. Yet, I will not repeat as I did not click with her. Do not know why but that was the case. We just fucked and nothing else. She told me I was her first client and that I should be happy but failed to get the gist of this piece of communication. Afterwards I did as she worked non-stop until 3.30 a.m. The DD lass worked as hard but I noticed that she never stayed with a customer more than 20 minutes. Yet, all seemed happy and she was very rarely rejected. During the course of the evening she tried to get me in a room for as much as three times but I always declined for the reasons stated above.
After this first not I just sat around drinking coffee and Sprite. I noticed a lass from the Domenican Republic who had a hot smoking body but was too cocky for my tastes. I also noticed a Pam Anderson type with enhanced D breasts who wore black and white socks. Is this cindy? I somehow never had the courage to approach her. She was clear PSE material which makes me nervous. In the meatime OI was chatted by an Espana girl and Romanion whose name escapes me. I was wondering whether I should look for Catherine who had a very good report lately but I decided to be more advertourous. It is good to follow the Masters but also good to find some gold of one's own. At least, one has to try I used over my coffee. After seraching endlessly for something that triggers my libido my eyes foud themselves stuck on an ass of a very good looking girl who just seemed to stare on to the motorcycle. Her ass was smokinh hot. I was sure that if she sat down the whole cushion would just burn. Her name was Monica from Poland, I chatted her a bit and found her very nice and relaxed. After chatting with her for 15 minutes without any mention of a room I just whisked her off to a room. She is good to very good and tries hard. In my case the great turn on was her face and ass. I though that would repeat but later on the night she kind of flipped, became very noisy and loud. I could not understand what happed to my Monika! Remembering in that state has put me off her.
After Monika I just wandered around chatting to girls and men. Like Wan King said if you are very friendly girls allow you to touch them (I prefer not using the term grope). The Central Americas seem to see it like a compliment.
Only I nut left I searched for a something worthwhile. There was very good looking one with perky tits. Her face and hair were out of this world. But she never smiled and when I simled at her she seemed distant. I looked at her well and came to the conlcuison that she did not rank very well in job staisfaction so I passed. It was beocming late at thos point (2.45) and was wondering what to do. The good-looking girls were taking it easy and chatted with men and I was feeling left out. But soon Polish Kasha came to the rescue and she siad hi and stared a conversation which ended on very personal terms On her side rather than mine). It is interesting that as soon as Monika saw this she shouted something at us which Kasha translated as 'I have bee with that guy'. But Kasha remianed unperturbed and even friendly towards Monika (perhaps this is normal for them to say that). After 30 minutes chatting with Kasha I promied to mmet her after I took a shower to refrresh myself as It was very hot. True to her world Kasha was waiting for me at the first bar even if I took my time. We went to the room and I had the best Palace experience so far. Kasha is not very sexy or highly good looking but she gave me a good teasing BBJ plus doggy style pounding (it was my third nut). I reccommend her but I think that the best FKK sex come with those one click on a somewhat 'personal' basis. Please note the inverted commas. I did click with Kasha and it was a very rewarding experience. I wanted to to tip her but had only 100 notes in addition to my last remaining 50E.
Anyhow, all in all a 215E spent well. Palace might not be as good as it was in the past if one follows the posts of more experienced FKKers but it still does it for me. Each to his own I guess.
Johhny D.
I am very friendly and gentle, but there was ashort Americam Latino lass who got on my nerves yesterday as she pestered me and others ocntinuously to have sex with in a very loud and obnoxious way. Do you know whom I am referring to. She come to you and clings to you forcibly. The worst thing is when she sees you in the kino and comes to you opening her legs and putting her pussy a few centimetres away from your face. When she sees that you are not interested she starts making fun of you. Then as you walk away she says soimething in German or Spanish in angry tones. I heard her used the termed 'Schiesel' (spelling?) a lot behind my back. At times she just ruined my mood. Am I the only one feeling this way?
Johhny D
after lazing about and napping for most of the day, at 4:30 i got my act together, hit the u4-u7 in perfect sequence, and by 5 pm i was in my towel and ready for action at palace. the lineup was so-so, no marina, no daniela, no ambra, no charlie. there were about 30 girls there at 5 pm, which number swelled to about 60 by 10 pm. the ratio wasn't bad but even on this relatively quiet night, i saw many couples wandering around looking for a free room.
thankfully, lovely little vicki was there, looking fine with her hair a little bit grown out in a corona of mini dread-locks. it seems she had been home for a week and a half and this was her second day back, lucky me. as i sat down to eat, she walked by and i called to her, asked her to save me some time and porceeded to chow down. not 3 minutes later, vicki walked by with her plate and i bade her to join me. she did and we had a nice little chat while stuffing our faces. she told me the sinterclause party turnout was rather disappointing. dessert consisted of a few kisses and we both agreed to brush our teeth and meet in the loser's lounge.
i was ready long before she was, and after 10 minutes she joined me in the harem tent where we got warmed up as we made out like teenagers and i got my first feel of her delicious little package. after 10 minutes of this, i asked for a room and we proceeded to love nest nummer 6, where an hour of delicious makeout, vicki's unsurpassed oral skills and fine bumping and grinding ensued. she came twice, once with my oral -digital ministrations and once during a grinding full on makeout cowgirl. she seemed very happy.
after our inaugural session, which was as fine as any, i gave her her 50's and a cd of reggae and hip hop and assured her that we shall meet again. this was at 8:10. i got a coke and lounged around, chatting with about 7 or so girls who tried to seduce me on the downstairs couch nearest the sauna, against the wall near the bar. an excellent place to survey the room. the motorcycle has been replaced by a huge sleigh with a pole in the middle of it. i asked vicki if anyone has yet fucked in it. soon, i decided to get supine for a while and then go for session number 2 after a while, though again i was less than impressed with the overall lineup.
wrong!!! as i drifted in and out of consciousness in the plush loser's lounge, i was startled by the crowd making a collective gasp cum laugh and the lights went on at full brightness. a silver haired guy in a leather jacket who looked like the host of america's most wanted was directing all the girls to gather around the big bar and all the men to gather in the buffet. i thought, what the fuck- christmas party games? then it hit me- spotting all the uniforms helped me realise that this is a raid.
i immediately went to the little bar and ordered a capuccino and got the last seat near the exit for the festivities. one of the bar frauen translated, all the men must show id and they can either stay or leave, if they leave you will get a voucher for another free entrance. the buffet was positively packed with smoking men stuffing their faces with the second serving. about a third of the men were dressing and leaving, there was a line at the entry desk as the cops checked all the passports. i watched for a while as girls in groups of three or four were paraded in and out of the girl's locker area accompanied by policewomen, some of whom were 10's by the way. maybe it was the guns. one cop looked just like wim and he seemed to be flirting with the girls.
after thirty minutes, the mood was gone for me so i decided to cut and run along with the increasing number of men. i dressed and got on line. vicki passed by looking adorable and accompanied by the police and two other girls. she smiled and patted my bum as she passed. soon, they took my passport. one tall plainclothes policewoman proceeded to examine my passport with a magnifying glass and a black light for more than 20 minutes. it is a bit dogearred from years of being in my pocket on flights and trips to various venues and this made her suspicious. i offered my driver's licence as a backup, but she still insisted on showing it to a colleague who tried to peel back the corner of the picture page. then they wrote my name on a list along with my address and passport number. they did this for every foriegner i believe. i asked and they said they were just going to do a phone check and then shred the list after a couple of weeks. there will be no mailings or anything to the states. this did not make me feel better. somehow, i feel that angela merkel and george bush and company will use this information at some point to pressure me into finding another hobby.
finally, they let me go, the management, who were very nice and took everything in stride, gave me my voucher and i hit the u7 u4 in perfect time and got back to the excelsior. now here i am at 23:50 on the first night of my trip with nothing to do but get drunk and try again tomorrow at world. razzias suck.
beffen
Judging by how they looked at your passport, the polizei are looking at more than the illegal status of the girls. I wonder if they are looking at guys who are trafficing the girls or illegals in general.
[QUOTE=Beffen1]
I thought, what the fuck- Christmas party games? Then it hit me- spotting all the uniforms helped me realise that this is a raid.
Razzias suck.
beffen[/QUOTE]
Hey Bef,
Welcome to the club. It's something everyone should go through once. Sounds like a pretty mild one really. Snagging that voucher for the rest of the weekend's activities was clever.
See you soon,
Dedalus
I wonder what happens if you don't have your passport with you? I usually forget to carry mine around and leave it in the hotel room. Hmm.
V.
[QUOTE=Viagrant]I wonder what happens if you don't have your passport with you? I usually forget to carry mine around and leave it in the hotel room. Hmm.
V.[/QUOTE]
Do you really want to find out?
Unless you have an EU ID card, then carry you passport with you the next time you visit a club.
Cheers,
Dedalus
yes, i could not believe how they scutinized my passport, the second guy was peeling back the corners to see if the photo was inserted. i would advise everyone to carry their passports. and i am none too pleased about having my name on a list now, even though they said it will be shredded after making a call. a call, to whom?
beffen
[quote=beffen1]yes, i could not believe how they scutinized my passport, the second guy was peeling back the corners to see if the photo was inserted. i would advise everyone to carry their passports. and i am none too pleased about having my name on a list now, even though they said it will be shredded after making a call. a call, to whom?
beffen[/quote]\
brings all those 70's-80's cold war era films to reality doesn't it?
i think its a good idea if your not from europe to carry your passport also.
i besides the illegal eastern european girls they were most likely looking for, i wonder what else they were interested in...
[QUOTE=DJ FourMoney]
I besides the illegal eastern european girls they were most likely looking for, I wonder what else they were interested in...[/QUOTE]
I really don't think that it is anything out of the ordinary. Just a routine control, which every club has to endure from time to time. It is an inconvenience, but in fact it is for our safety.
Cheers,
Dedalus
[quote=beffen1]yes, i could not believe how they scutinized my passport, the second guy was peeling back the corners to see if the photo was inserted. i would advise everyone to carry their passports. and i am none too pleased about having my name on a list now, even though they said it will be shredded after making a call. a call, to whom?
beffen[/quote]
i never carry my passport, rather a color copy of the first page. i thought that if i was robbed that the color page would provide identification. maybe i am thinking wrong on this one. do you know if anyone didn't have papers what they would have done?
bob
I agree with Dedalus: I don't think this is any kind of Big Deal Raid! It is more or less a gesture by the Polizei to keep the club(s) under control. This was a light raid. They did not descend in SWAT teams from the roofs. I heard they did not search any male guests or look in the lockers for drugs or anything ...Probably would have found lots of blue pills, eh?They just did a routine check. It was over in a couple of hours, I believe? They just want all the clubs to know: Any time, we might come knocking at your door, so keep your house clean and don't make the mistake of Atlantis. Small raids like this keep the management awake and inspire them to treat the flow of girls who work their club with some care and attention.
It will be interesting to see what if any impact this raid has on Palace in the next few days. I will be there tomorrow night, so I'll drop you a note on Sat to let you know if the vibe suffered. Sat night there is supposed be a big X-mas Party event at Palace. Contempraneous with this is Oase with it's reduced Eintritt (35E), and there are a bunch of heavy-duty Internet posters meeting at World and Palace that same night. So there is lots going on in FKKland this weekend.
As for the passport issue: Well, I always carry a small EU ID card...I would not like to carry my Passport unless I lost it. I really do wonder what the Polizei reaction would be to a photocopy of your passport. I mean: they must realise that any logical person might well not wish to carry their passport around whilst FKKing! It is a legitmate thing, ja?
Ortos
It is reasonable to have some form of ID, even if foreign. To expect people to carry passports is unreasonable. There is no law requiring it. I suspect they will ask for some documents that would indicate legal entry into the country, i.e. plane ticket etc.
As for the phone call, I think they will call the immigration office to see if you have valid entry into the country and have not overstayed your visa. When you enter the EU, they scan your passport. So, I think you have nothing to be alarmed of.
Gentlemen,
I was curious to see Palace after the raid and too lazy to train up to World so I went back to Palace Thursday. There was no ill effect, it was dead at 6PM but by 7:30 it was rocking, there was a wait for rooms almost all night. All is well at Palace. >Ortos, this means that I might stay at World with dedalus and fred for the night on Friday. If I do, I will see you at the hotel Saturday morning. But I still may make it to Palace but I am a little tired of it after two days.
beffen
[QUOTE=Akibono]It is reasonable to have some form of ID, even if foreign. To expect people to carry passports is unreasonable. There is no law requiring it. I suspect they will ask for some documents that would indicate legal entry into the country, i.e. plane ticket etc.
[/QUOTE]
I did not think there was a law requiring non-residents to carry their passport, but I am not 100% certain. I always have my US driver's license with me, and perhaps I will now carry a photocopy of my first page of my passport. A plane ticket?? Who would be carrying that around? I would hope that if they were not satisfied with my US driver's license (ID), then they could phone my hotel to confirm where I was staying.
Anyway, I hope I am never there during a raid.
Btw, did the police go thru The Palace and knock on all the room doors to rouse the couples??
V.
[quote=viagrant]i did not think there was a law requiring non-residents to carry their passport, but i am not 100% certain. i always have my us driver's license with me, and perhaps i will now carry a photocopy of my first page of my passport.
[/quote]in germany there is a law to require all persons to carry there ids, ie. non-residents as well as german or foreign residents. however, there is no severe penalty if you do not have your passport on you. it could cost you a small fine, perhaps 20 euros or so. the only real invonvenience is that the police might arrest you if they have some suspicions about your identity. if so, they will most probably accompany you to your residence or make some phone calls to check your identity. this is not bad, however since it can spoil your night or may cause some unpleasant questions by your possible wife ("where did they get you" or "what the hell were you doing" etc.) it is a good idea to carry your id with you.
[quote=beffen1]there will be no mailings or anything to the states. this did not make me feel better. somehow, i feel that angela merkel and george bush and company will use this information at some point to pressure me into finding another hobby.[/quote]don't worry. remember that in germany prostitution is basically a legal business. according to the current law you can even go to court over a dispute with a woman (either she not serving you according to the "contract", or vice versa, you not paying her accordingly). even if the girl is an illegal foreigner you will not get into real trouble, because you are not obliged to check the legality yourself.
the only thing that can get you into real trouble is if you get caught with an obvious **** girl (12yo or so) in an illegal club or in street action. but this is not because of prostitution but because of child abuse. of course, in any legal club like world, palace or even atlantis you will never encounter any of such girls. so there is no reason to be worried about raids as long as you do not carry illegal drugs or so with you.
Gentelmen, been a while since I came back around to the FKK scene. A lot you have posted good reports on the girls but I would like to post one about a screwed up experience with the awful ***** yesterday at Palace.
I wish I remembered her name, but so angry that totally forgot it. Anyways I am sure that she would change it every night. Now this ***** was around 5.10, i think east european definetly. She seemed the next door girl type and so we went along to the room. The bad mistake was not play around first to and to get a feel.
Anyways, as soon as we got in the room she poured some oil on the dick and started with a vigorous hj and light sucking. A minute later tries to upsell to CIM to which i said now and stop so that we can have sex. But this ***** didn't let go and really pressed on hard with the hj to a point where she hurt. I grabbed her hand to release and she still kept on going, the extreme amount of oil and rubbing resulted in an unwanted cum.
Pissed me off as hell and marched her to the management, an aged german lady who listened to both her and me. I think because of the raid the day before she came up with the solution to pay only half. I was not up even for that and said that this hoe is a psycho and needed to barred for the club for the sake of others. In the end was frigging tired with the travelling during the day so just settled it and let it go. The lady mentioned that is she gets another complaint then will take an action to ban.
So, if any one of you does have a bad experience, they should march the hoes off to the management and solve the matter.
Off to World tonight.
By the way does any one have the digs about an Afghan girl calls herself Shireen, black hair with a colored rose tatoo on the side of her belly. Kindda cute but thought she had some attitude.
Happy mongering.
[QUOTE=Viagrant].....I always have my US driver's license with me, and perhaps I will now carry a photocopy of my first page of my passport......[/QUOTE]
Viagrant, pls keep in mind that your driver license, in EU, IT IS NOT a valid ID document.
It is ONLY a driver license like anyone else.
May I suggest to carry with you always a photocopy of your passport? Also, if you have the paper that the Hotel SHOULD give you when you give them yr ID document, it shold be the best.
:)
Ciao
Yes, a cop went to each room and the couples had to leave and separate into groups. One poor girl had just about completed an hour's session and in the confusion the guy left while she was occupied with the police without paying her. She is such as sweetie, she didn't deserve that. Only one Romanian girl didn't have proper papers.
beffen
[quote=mat the rat]in germany there is a law to require all persons to carry there ids, ie. non-residents as well as german or foreign residents. however, there is no severe penalty if you do not have your passport on you. it could cost you a small fine, perhaps 20 euros or so. the only real invonvenience is that the police might arrest you if they have some suspicions about your identity. if so, they will most probably accompany you to your residence or make some phone calls to check your identity. this is not bad, however since it can spoil your night or may cause some unpleasant questions by your possible wife ("where did they get you" or "what the hell were you doing" etc.) it is a good idea to carry your id with you.
don't worry. remember that in germany prostitution is basically a legal business. according to the current law you can even go to court over a dispute with a woman (either she not serving you according to the "contract", or vice versa, you not paying her accordingly). even if the girl is an illegal foreigner you will not get into real trouble, because you are not obliged to check the legality yourself.
the only thing that can get you into real trouble is if you get caught with an obvious **** girl (12yo or so) in an illegal club or in street action. but this is not because of prostitution but because of child abuse. of course, in any legal club like world, palace or even atlantis you will never encounter any of such girls. so there is no reason to be worried about raids as long as you do not carry illegal drugs or so with you.[/quote]
prostitution is generally tolerated in germany, in brothels and eros centers, unless you pick up someone on the strasse you should not be in trouble. as far as the polizei picking you up for whatever reason, its europe. you do have a lot of surveillance and other things that are constantly in place. its generally a good idea to keep some kind of id on you, a us driver's license isn't going to cut it. i actually thought about moving to the netherlands to open a business, but seeing what europe looks like in the colder months when the tourists aren't here i quickly change my mind, that and the police state like atmosphere. that and i also saw a customer at palace that looked just like adolf hitler.
[QUOTE=Beffen1]Yes, a cop went to each room and the couples had to leave and separate into groups. One poor girl had just about completed an hour's session and in the confusion the guy left while she was occupied with the police without paying her. She is such as sweetie, she didn't deserve that. Only one Romanian girl didn't have proper papers.
beffen[/QUOTE] Ah no way !!! Bet that guy got home, opened his wallet and looked at that extra hundred with glee!!
Was in Palace the infamous 7th of december (remember Pearl Harbor ?). had the time to have an excellent session with I think Diana from Kazaksthan. Blonde, 30's, large breast. I left for for a business diner with the idea to come back. That was until I was welcome by a flurry of police activity. Palace was as usual (sauna was in repair), not enough good looking girl to my point of view but still quite OK. Went to Oase after which I like despite its poor infrastructure had two sessions with the same girl (lack of other good looking girls) a turkish whose name I forgot (petite, blonde, large breast, ...). all in all a good night in FKK land. Can someone tell me if aside from Frankfurt there is another city in germany as interesting in terms of number and quality of sex clubs and FKK ?
[QUOTE=Lazzaro]Viagrant, pls keep in mind that your driver license, in EU, IT IS NOT a valid ID document.
It is ONLY a driver license like anyone else.
May I suggest to carry with you always a photocopy of your passport? Also, if you have the paper that the Hotel SHOULD give you when you give them yr ID document, it shold be the best.
:)
Ciao[/QUOTE]
I seriously doubt that German police would rather see a photocopy of a passport instead of a valid US driver's license, which is the legal form of ID in the USA. I am going to check into this issue further.
What document that the hotel "SHOULD give" me? I have been to Germany 6 times in the last few years, in several hotels, and I am not sure what you are referring to.
V.
[QUOTE=Beffen1] Only one Romanian girl didn't have proper papers.
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One can only hope that it was Romana.
[QUOTE=Viagrant]I seriously doubt that German police would rather see a photocopy of a passport instead of a valid US driver's license, which is the legal form of ID in the USA. I am going to check into this issue further.
What document that the hotel "SHOULD give" me? I have been to Germany 6 times in the last few years, in several hotels, and I am not sure what you are referring to.
V.[/QUOTE]
Viagrant,
It would be very helpful to know what is really required. If the polizi were closely inspecting a passport, especially one this has been used a lot, to see it if it genuine, would they accept a color copy of the passport? I would not wish to get any more involved with the polizi than absolutely necessary. No good thing can come out of any contact with the polizi.
Thanks for checking into this. Your research will be appreciated by all of us.
Bob
The guy who got laid for free had a 007 moment, lucky bastard.
I found this so far.
[url]http://www.toytownmunich.com/lofi/index.php/t10046.html[/url]
Scroll down to the reply by "BadDoggie" from Nov 24 2004, 5:56 pm. He actually quotes some passages from German law to back up his claims. See this passage:
[QUOTE=BadDoggie at toytownmunich.com]
You have to do quite a biit of searching to find the law affecting foreigners:
[QUOTE]
Ausländer sind darüber hinaus verpflichtet, ihren Pass oder Ausweis (-ersatz), ihre Aufenthaltserlaubnis oder Duldung vorzulegen und bei Verdacht eines Verstoûes zu überlassen (§ 5 Abs. 1 Satz 4 SchwarzArbG).[/QUOTE]
The Schwarzarbeit laws are where you find this. YOU MUST HAVE AN ACCEPTABLE ID ON YOU AT ALL TIMES AND SHOW IT TO ANY COP WHO ASKS FOR IT. Acceptable to Germans is "Ausweis" or "Passport". Read the laws and see for yourself.
The fines appear to start at €30 but can go up into the thousands if you act like a dick about it. You can also be jailed (but German cops are really pretty friendly compared to US cops, even when they arrest you). You can be deported, and if you're not an EU national, it could slam the door to all EU countries in your face.[/QUOTE]
But someone else replies:
[QUOTE=Chalmondley Warner at toytownmunich]
BadDoggie, the passages of law that you quote do not state that you must carry your ID on you at all times. Neither Germans nor foreigners.
As grtho pointed out, those passages state that you must be in posession of valid ID (i.e. whether you posess it on your person at all times or keep it at home, it doesn't matter). They also state that you should be able to present that ID if required. I.e. if you don't have it on your person you should be able to go home and fetch it.
As I said, these days the police are able to radio through to the residents database and if your stated name and address match those that they have in their records, then you're sorted.
I've been controlled randomly at an U-Bahn station and I had not a single piece of ID on me. Not even a bank card or mobile phone. Just a bit of loose change in my pocket. I gave my name and address and all was in order.
The German laws are not quite as draconian as I suspect you'd like to believe.[/QUOTE]
I still feel nervous about carrying my passport around. As someone else in that thread said, it is probably cheaper and safer to pay the €30 fine than to run the risk of losing your passport (which would cost $80-$100 to replace, and be a major hassle).
V.
[QUOTE=Cornelius]
I wish I remembered her name, but so angry that totally forgot it. Anyways I am sure that she would change it every night. Now this ***** was around 5.10, i think east european definetly. She seemed the next door girl type and so we went along to the room. The bad mistake was not play around first to and to get a feel.
Anyways, as soon as we got in the room she poured some oil on the dick and started with a vigorous hj and light sucking. A minute later tries to upsell to CIM to which i said now and stop so that we can have sex. But this ***** didn't let go and really pressed on hard with the hj to a point where she hurt. I grabbed her hand to release and she still kept on going, the extreme amount of oil and rubbing resulted in an unwanted cum.
[/QUOTE]
I hesitate to put a name to face, but it could be that you were the victim of our little Sascha from the Ukraine. Sounds like her both from looks and service.
Dedalus
Hey Guys,
I have said this before, but it bears repeating: If you do not have a valid EU ID, then bring your Passport with you to a club. Not a copy, but the real thing. If you are at a club during a raid, then it will save you bucket loads of trouble. It is no big deal to be at a club that is raided but you do need an acceptable form of ID and the Polizei will recognize and accept a valid passport easier than anything else.
I am not an expert in German law, but the earlier quoted "Ausländer sind darüber hinaus verpflichtet, ihren Pass oder Ausweis (-ersatz), ihre Aufenthaltserlaubnis oder Duldung vorzulegen und bei Verdacht eines Verstoûes zu überlassen (§ 5 Abs. 1 Satz 4 SchwarzArbG)" is pretty clear. Why would you want to make a hard situation more difficult?
Cheers and have fun,
Dedalus
[QUOTE=CBGBConnisur] that and the police state like atmosphere. That and I also saw a customer at Palace that looked just like Adolf Hitler.
The guy who got laid for free had a 007 moment, lucky bastard.
[/QUOTE]
I know that I should just ignore this, but you've got to be kidding, right?
Dedalus
Just a quick note to say: Last night, Fri 09 Dec, Palace was indeed rocking! Some good girls were absent (e.g. little Czech Vicky), some bad girls were absent too (e.g. Sascha Ukraine), but there was lots of new talent. Some really stunning very young girls were there, ones I had never seen before...my last visit was about a month ago. But there were some well known stars present too: Danielle of Romania was there. There was the usual back-log for rooms, but if you choose the right girl, the wait on the couch is quite pleasurable and entertaining... As I say there was lots and lots of talent available, not much sign of any depression due to the Polizei visit last Weds night.
The way to play Palace on nights like this is to pick a girl you click with very well, either one you have an established relationship with or a new one with whom you share superb chemistry. I was lucky to click nicely with a slightly older (late 20s) lady from Khazakastan, who has lived in Germany for a while: Tanya, blonde, great breasts, very very skilled in the foreplay and bbbj dept as well as a master of many positions. I had observed her earlier in the evening with another guest and she gave off great vibes: I approached her later and we hit it off superbly...so I was the recipient of a long foreplay session on the couch waiting for a room. At the end of a long 40 min session on the couch a room finally opened up and she skillfully kept me going for another whole hour in the room. So it was quite a long extended get-to-know you thing. I felt very good about this choice knowing with all the 9s walking around it is sometimes more gratifying to go with an 8, like Tanya, with a little more experience and a completely non-rushed GFE to PSE attitude. A real winner.
There's a big Party there tonight, so I think the conditions may be even worse than they were last (Fri) night. We'll see.
Ortos
Dear Members,
The day after of a complete newby, not for Palace only, but for the entire world of FKKs. Well, i would say: something between incredible, irresistible and unforgettable.
I had prepared my mission carefully by reading dozens of posts from the many maestros who report on this forum. I sincerely thank the all of them, as I believe I learned a few rules that allowed to me to avoid bad experiences, and spend sort of a superb night. For those of you who will be in the same position as I was - never gone to an FKK before - a very simple message: take your time, don't look for centerfolds only and DO FLIRT with the girls before entering a room.
Still a few lines of introduction, and the report will come. I would ask masters of this forum to read my impressions on the girls I hit, and tell me whether they share my ideas or not. Is just like being a student who has studied his lesson on the paper, and wants to know whether he has really learned or not. Thanks in advance to those who will like to reply to my comments.
1) THE ROMANIAN I AVOIDED
I arrived at the club pretty early, 5.30 pm or so. The atmosphere was very relaxed, few customers, few girls as well, plenty of time to sit down, look around and flirt. After a while I was attracted by a young girl who was sitting by the upstairs bar, eating a banana, and sending out clear signs of what she could reply the banana with. I went to sit by her, and spoke to her. He took just the time to tell me that her name was Olympia from Romania, and then I heard the question: "do we go to the room?". Now, as I just mentioned, it was early in the evening. Having read previous posts (thank you boys!), such a need for a rapid deal was like seeing flashing red lights switching on everywhere. I politely said her that I was not in a hurry, abandoned the approach, and got to sit on one of the couches downstairs (she didn't follow me). Lately in the evening another customer confirmed my bad impression.
Be careful. She is really a pretty girl, and you will be unavoidably attracted from her. Slim young body, maybe B natural breasts, height about 160 cm. Firm-small ass, nice face. Brownish hairs to the shoulders, she uses a transparent lipstick who makes her face even more desirable.
2) A GREAT DOMINCAN
A few moments on the couch, and I was approached by Crystal, a 21 years old girl from Dominican Republic. Very easy to find her around: first of all, her skin has the cappuccino-color the personally drives me crazy (there were not that many like her at the club. Either you see black or white girls, but not milk-chocolate). She has natural medium size tits, encouraging lips and a nice face although she isn't a 9-10. I would rather rate her as an 8 for the look and physical side, but much more than that for the rest, as I am about telling you. We started chatting a little bit and the first impression was great: this girl was not pushing me to a room and, while innocently and sweetly caressing me, she replied to my jokes with a really brilliant and amusing spirit (not a surprise for those who know caribbean lifestyle). We touched and kissed on the couch and then I proposed her to go to the room. She was great: she kissed me, longly bare-blowed, accepted DATY and excited me by gently massaging my dick with her fantastic morbid tits. Let me just add a couple of comments. First: all she was doing was done sweetly, as your girlfriend isn't really always able to do. In addition, when I touched her, she was genuinely wet. Boys, we all know that girls are able to produce sounds as they were really enjoying what you do, but we also know that those are usually faked. A wet pussy is a wet pussy, no doubts on this!
We were ready for the rest of the stuff. It was cowgirl position, then I asked her to lye aside of my, and I took her from behind. Now, as I mentioned before, I am definitely fond of chocolate-girls. Anyway, looking in the mirror and seeing my white hand playing with her nipples, and my white dick shuttling inside and outside her tanned pussy was irresistible. Soon after, I could not resist anymore indeed, and I came.
A surprise was now waiting for me. She took a massage-oil outside her purse, she asked me to lay on the bad and she started to massage my back an my shoulder in a really experienced manner. She kept going this fantastic and unexpected plus for about ten minutes, and then I payed her the 50 she had really deserved.
Couldn't suggest her more enthusiastically. As I said before, she's is easy to find, either because of the color of her skin, but also because she likes to play and joke with customers. Shortly: look for a girls who smiles and jokes with men around, someone with a very glad spirit, and you will find her.
3) FROM KHAZAKISTAN WITH LOVE
I do enthusiastically support the positive report Ortos made about Tanya, this great blond girl from one of the provinces of former USSR. Ortos, was me she was playing with when you noticed her? We approached on the stairs, and moved on the couch below the curtains. Boy, what a baby! She started kissing and caressing me. Even the kisses by themselves were enough to send my rock-solid; she then came over me - sort of a pre cow we would have longly experienced a few minutes later - she offered her great boobs to my lips, and started moaning on the couch. We moved towards the rooms and luckily, they were all busy, so we needed to stay outside for a while. As Ortos noticed, she has great ability for the foreplay, so full-room situation was really a bit of luck.
Inside the room things were as positive as outside. Bare blow, tit-fucking (can't miss with a pair of tits like those), great cow and doggy. She will enthusiastically reply to your inputs, and docilely accept your requests (well, reasonable ones, of course). Great, sweet baby. As Ortos noticed, maybe an 8 rather than 9 or 10 but, honestly, if I walked in my hometown and I met her around, for no reasons I would not try to date her!
A couple of comments on sex with her. She moanes loudly. Fake moans, sure. But let's put it in this terms. Who among you likes to look a porn movie without the sound? Those are faked sounds as well, but they sort of complete the show!
Directions to her. Not very easy to select her among the others: Palace is filled with blondes. Don't know whether it may be useful or not, but yesterday night she was not going around completely naked. She was "wearing" sort of a belt. Don't know whether this is her habit or not. Sorry, but I have no better directions than these.
4) DEUTSCHLAND UBER ALLES
Well, Frankfurt is in Germany, and German girls are pretty well known for being both sexy and open-minded. I picked up Patricia, a slim tall blonde one you may easily recognize as she has long tattoos over her shoulders and arms. She had approached me a few times during the night, but I always was not in the right mood. Finally, as I was sitting on one of the downstairs couches, I accepted her avances, and decided to experience the local skills. Though the general feeling was more than positive, she was a few steps behind my previous girls.
Sex was good, and she is a joyous funny girl you will like to joke and talk with while touching her body, and looking her hands exploring you.
Details on the deal with her. She tried to upsell herself a couple of times, once proposing a trio, once proposing CIM (which doesn't belong to the list of my feticisms). We waited for a room to become available, and this was rather pleasant. She was kissing and touching me, while telling me who she is, what she does, where she comes from (Cologne) and so on. Once inside the room, she started with a bare blow. Needs to be said: great oral skills, she uses her tongue and lips in a pretty remarkable way. I was not in the mood for coming like that, anyway, and wanted to see her fucking with me. We had a pretty hard-fucking time, that I enjoyed.
Well, that's all folks. I look forward to reading your comments, and to getting back to Palace as soon as circumstances will make it possible.
Great first report, man. Welcome to the club!
Now you see that everything we were saying is exactly true. Only after you have been inside a top FKK can you really believe that such a place really exists.
Of course, the downside is that from now on you will be hooked to the FKK scene. There is no going back. Not that you'd want to, either .... ;)
euro
[QUOTE=Dedalus]Hey Guys,
I have said this before, but it bears repeating: If you do not have a valid EU ID, then bring your Passport with you to a club. Not a copy, but the real thing. If you are at a club during a raid, then it will save you bucket loads of trouble. It is no big deal to be at a club that is raided but you do need an acceptable form of ID and the Polizei will recognize and accept a valid passport easier than anything else.
I am not an expert in German law, but the earlier quoted "Ausländer sind darüber hinaus verpflichtet, ihren Pass oder Ausweis (-ersatz), ihre Aufenthaltserlaubnis oder Duldung vorzulegen und bei Verdacht eines Verstoûes zu überlassen (§ 5 Abs. 1 Satz 4 SchwarzArbG)" is pretty clear. Why would you want to make a hard situation more difficult?
Cheers and have fun,
Dedalus[/QUOTE]
Dedalus,
What is an acceptable form of ID for a foreigner just visiting Germany? I have photo ID that is acceptable in the USA and dislike carrying my passport for fear of loosing it. Would you clear up the translation some for us non-German speaking members. The fewer important document that are carried the lower the risk of loosing something. I have never been stopped in the EU and don't have any experience on the best way to handle it.
Thanks for your comments.
Bob
[QUOTE=Fly Bob]Dedalus,
What is an acceptable form of ID for a foreigner just visiting Germany? I have photo ID that is acceptable in the USA and dislike carrying my passport for fear of loosing it. Would you clear up the translation some for us non-German speaking members. The fewer important document that are carried the lower the risk of loosing something. I have never been stopped in the EU and don't have any experience on the best way to handle it.
Thanks for your comments.
Bob[/QUOTE]
Fair question. The law sited is one that was enacted to combat against illegal workers and "Schwarzarbeit" (or unregistered work that is done here without paying taxes on the income). The section of the law (the damn thing has 23 sections and God knows how many sub-sections) deals with a foreigner being required to surrender his/her Passport, residence permission, etc to customs officials in the event of an investigation. Here is the actual law and perhaps a native such as Novize can check my reading of it:
"Ausländer sind ferner verpflichtet, ihren Pass, Passersatz oder Ausweisersatz und ihren Aufenthaltstitel, ihre Duldung oder ihre Aufenthaltsgestattung den Behörden der Zollverwaltung vorzulegen und, sofern sich Anhaltspunkte für einen Verstoß gegen ausländerrechtliche Vorschriften ergeben, zur Weiterleitung an die zuständige Ausländerbehörde zu überlassen."
Gesetz zur Bekämpfung der Schwarzarbeit und illegalen Beschäftigung (Schwarzarbeitsbekämpfungsgesetz - SchwarzArbG)
§ 5 Duldungs- und Mitwirkungspflichten
Satz 1
Now, would this effect a tourist? Most likely in the event that you were stopped on the street in Frankfurt (not really likely unless you are acting a complete and dangerous ass) maybe just a foreign drivers permit or and explanation that your travel documents are at the hotel would do. A backpacking tourist or even an exec in Germany on business is not so interesting to a Polizei official. If it is an FKK raid, then the law is looking to investigate the activities there, or better said control them. They cannot know that you are either a tourist or in Germany on business other than by taking your word for it, unless they can check your passport. One check of this document and you are OK.
Fly Bob, this (Germany) is not the US (Just to make things clear, I am an American) and while that may sound like a rhetorical statement, we sometimes forget that things do operate differently in other parts of the world. I am sure that you know this. Police controls, while usually painless are not uncommon over here, and everyone is supposed to have proper identification on their person. I would not expect the average German police to recognize a Texas driver's permit, but they will recognize a US Passport.
Also sex trafficking has become a big issue in Europe and there are many sad, horror stories out there. The German magazines and newspapers report about this constantly. There are efforts being made to deal with the situation. A club control is common and actually for everyone's benefit. But it is a potential criminal investigation and these officials need to be thorough.
As a foreigner living in Germany, I carry the damn thing everywhere and I would never consider going to a club without it. To me the inconvenience of a raid is small potatoes compared to being escorted by the Police back to my hotel or home to check on my documents and they WILL do this. Maybe a photocopy of you passport will suffice, but do you really want to find out?
Cheers,
Dedalus
Dedalus,
your reading of the law is absolutely correct.
And I agree with your assertion that Germany is just different. It is definitely not a police state, though. In many respects the police is more restricted in their actions towards citizens than in the US, and the normal citizen actually has more rights. Germany cannot hold its citizens without a trial, for example. However, police is supposed to have the ability to check your ID. Also, if you are living at some address in Germany for an extended period of time, you have the obligation to register with the police. (All of this was put into law after WW2, by the way, under American guidance.)
Sex trafficking is a huge problem in all of Western Europe. And Dedalus is right, magazines and newspapers write about it all the time. I just read a harrowing tale in “Stern” about a girl from Ukraine being forced into prostitution. It made me feel like cutting the dicks off the guys who did it, too.
FKK clubs try to stay clean of that kind of activity. But the police checks occasionally that they comply. And the demise of Atlantis shows that it really does happen. Atlantis was closed for [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908][CodeWord908][/url] and tax evasion, and its owners first escaped to Spain and then were arrested.
So I almost look at these raids as a favor that the police is doing us. It keeps our favorite playgrounds clean. It would take all of the fun out of the FKK experience for me, if I would know that the girl I am having sex with is forced into this activity against her will.
euro
The keyword is "citizen", sure the average German in Germany has a lot more rights and protection than the average American in the US. If you're a scheisse Auslander you definitely have to be careful with what you say or do because you don't have the same rights as the locals. I am no longer in the US, I live in Australia(which is like a warm and fuzzy version of the US without all the crap(gun loving psychos, homeland insecurity, bible belters, traffic jams, shit weather(except in So Cal or South Florida), smog, retinal and fingerprint scans, Republicunts, loud obnoxious ultra feminist witches that are known as American women), I even have a good command of the accent and pretend I'm an Ozzie when I travel globally.
I know for a fact that a session similar to one found in an FKK would empty your wallet really quick in the States assuming you could find a woman of that quality. It would probably cost you at least $500US for a 30 minute "hour", you could have 8 sessions at an average FKK plus entry for that amount of money in Germany.
I agree with his characterization of the US - which where I now live.
"the crap (gun loving psychos, homeland insecurity, bible belters, traffic jams, shit weather (except in So Cal or South Florida), smog, retinal and fingerprint scans, Republicunts, loud obnoxious ultra feminist witches that are known as American women)
I know for a fact that a session similar to one found in an FKK would empty your wallet really quick in the States assuming you could find a woman of that quality. It would probably cost you at least $500US for a 30 minute "hour", you could have 8 sessions at an average FKK plus entry for that amount of money in Germany. "
FKK cannot be beaten. Value for money, sane women, relaxed attitudes Simple HONESTY. Consenting adults. How difficult is it to understand?
Adam
I enjoyed a session with Olympia from Romania very much back in September. I had arrived at the club early before a late flight out of Germany. I had spent a week at World, Oase & Palace. I hadn't seen her during early trips. I talked to her briefly and I liked her self assurance. She proved to be a great provider in the room. One of the best BBBJ I had that trip. Although I could see her trying to control everything she relaxed when she realized I was in control. Great girl great looks and great sex
Jim
Great newby report! I hope to be able to do the same in a few days. Am in Frankfurt now on business, but plan to spend most of tomorrow (Saturday the 17th) at the Palace. If anyone is also planning to go, feel free to PM or email me. Next time I post, I hope to have a nice report for you all. Thanks to all those whose posts here have been so helpful to me!
Ned
For what it is worth, I was taken to the police station during Oktoberfest after a little "misunderstanding" in the Beer Hall that evening. (nothing serious really) I spent a total of about 2 hours in the slammer until they sorted out the "misunderstanding" but they did relieve me of my posessions and put me in the "cooler" for that while. (I needed the rest after what seemed like 5 liters of beer)
The only ID I gave was my USA Driver license. No problem with them. In fact aside from all the beauracracy the German Police were a very nice bunch of guys. They never asked for a passport.
The only problem I did have was that they forgot to give me my license back with all my other things.. so I had to make arrangements to get it returned, which I did.
I am not carrying my Passport on me anywhere in Europe when I am socializing. If they want to see it so much they can escort me back to my hotel and let me retrive it from the safe in my room. This was not my experience though. I hope this helps. Just one man's experience.
Anyone want to hook up 21st till 25th? will the clubs be open for xmas?
kinda want to hit a few, then go down to milan for some shopping on xmas. Give me a pm if anyone is interested.
btw, jackson.. I was a Sr. member back on wsgforum, what happened?;p
[QUOTE=Kaare Olsen]Hi,
I am an Norwegian man (33 years old) often in Frankfurt (in transit) on my way to work (worldwide). I have been to the FKK Palace several times, but always alone. I find it difficult to come in contact with other visitors (men) at the FKK. I have tried a treesome with two of the ladies at the FKK Palace, it was a very nice (full serice), but Iwould like to try a FMM+. I have spoken with some of the girls regarding this and they are ok with it (one even ofered to do a DP), but I have always been alone. And the girl will not co-ordinate a FMM(+). So if there is anybody that would like to join me at the FKK Palace please let me know.
Best regards,
K. Olsen[/QUOTE]The following happened to me early in 2002:
I was at Atlantis, and one of the women there approached me. She pointed to a fellow in another part of the room and said that he was interested in a three-some; i.e. him, her and another fellow. He had asked her to pick out another man. I do not know why she picked me. I was surprised. That was the only time that has ever happened to me in my many visits to FKK clubs. I agreed to join them.
The experience was okay. I was too interested in watching them together that I was more of an observer than a participant.
I, too, have enjoyed two women at the same time, now and then.
Anyway, Kaare, I will be in Frankfurt January 5 to January 8 (Thursday to Sunday, including Sunday night). If you happen to be there at the same time, I would be interested in a threesome (FMM(+)).
Stinky Pete
I have been going to Palace and Oase for quite some time and havent hooked up with a MMF 3some but on the last night I was there, the night of the last raid (no big deal, just sat around for 2 hours till the cops left) a couple European guys who were having a wild time I met during the raid invited me into what became a 4 some they set up. mmmf. No DP but quite fun. I think the trick is to spend time in the common area meeting other guys. I suspect that there are plenty guys who would be into it once a bit of trust is established.
Enjoy,
D
[QUOTE=Stinky Pete]The following happened to me early in 2002:
I was at Atlantis, and one of the women there approached me. She pointed to a fellow in another part of the room and said that he was interested in a three-some; i.e. him, her and another fellow. He had asked her to pick out another man. I do not know why she picked me. I was surprised. That was the only time that has ever happened to me in my many visits to FKK clubs. I agreed to join them.
The experience was okay. I was too interested in watching them together that I was more of an observer than a participant.
I, too, have enjoyed two women at the same time, now and then.
Anyway, Kaare, I will be in Frankfurt January 5 to January 8 (Thursday to Sunday, including Sunday night). If you happen to be there at the same time, I would be interested in a threesome (FMM(+)).
Stinky Pete[/QUOTE]
Sorry it took so long after the event to get this report out.
I was at Palace when the Polize invaded. The place was packed and humming when they came. I had just finished a session when they came. They pretty rapidly and firmly herded the women into the upper bar area and the men into the lower food area. They then escorted the women 1 at a time to their lockers to check their ID. Tbe men got in line at the reception desk to have their ID's check.
All in all the cops were VERY friendly. There was quite a bit of confusion amongs the non German men regarding what we are to do. It turns out that the men who wished to leave could put their clothes on and have their ID checked on the way out the door. Quite a few men decided to leave. The rest of us stood around in our towels trying to figure out what to do. There was confusion regarding whether we had to have our Passport or whether other ID's would be accepted. Turns out that they took all forms of ID. Passport, drivers licence, even student ID's. After your ID was checked and logged a cop would escort you back to your locker to secure your stuff and then escort you into the bar area to wait, and wait and wait.
I was told by a cab driver later that they did find one girl who was Romanian(?) but had a forged Greek passport. She was cuffed and taken away.
After about 2 hours the cops thanked everyone for their patience, the girls and guys applauded and cheered and off they went. It took about 30 minutes for the place to get back to its normal vibe.
All in all it wasnt a bad experience. I got to hang with some other American guys and share experiences which I normally dont get to do.
I will be back the first week in December and again a week later. If any members have plans please PM me.
Enjoy,
D
Stinky,
Did you have ot pay for that session, or did the other guy take the tab?
Guys, when we had the ISG reunion in FKKW a few weeks ago, the saem thing happened there. One of the girls was walking around and picked up KingW for a FMM threesome. The other guy picked up the tab and just sent her off to find the third player.
euro
[QUOTE=Huitzilopoch]Anyone want to hook up 21st till 25th? will the clubs be open for xmas?[/QUOTE]Just saw the xmas period opening hours for palace:
24.12: closed
25.12.: open 17h - 04h
26.12.: open 17h - 04h
31.12: closed
01.01.: open 17h - 04h
As for the raids/passport issuen just keep in mind that the profile the police would be interested in would be either a wanted criminal (seems to happen rather regularly according to the papers here) or an illegal immigrant (which are mostly non-EU Europeans from the southeast or east plus some south-americans and africans).
So, I'm pretty sure anything that shows you're from the EU, Switzerland, Norway, Canada, the US or Japan should do fine in any routine ID check. Being German, I have used my gym member card or "BahnCard" (Rail Ticket Pass) as an Ersatz-ID, they did not like but I stayed polite and offered them to get it a my place at which point they said its ok we got a job to do. OTOH if you are from, say Albania or Moldavia it might be a good idea to have your passport with you.
Sucks, but thats not he cops fault. Most of them are nice guys who might even envy you bit in a positive way (I have met a few cops socially and they were pretty open-minded folks. Heard some nice stories about parties at police training grounds, but thats another story).
Also keep in mind that he way the laws are enforced varies quite a bit by the Länder, as a rule of thumb, the more north or west you go, the more tolerant and common sense you can expect the police to do their job. Hmm, I'm not from the US, but isn't it kind of the same there?
Opadani
Hello all,
Am looking forward to my first visit to an FKK in january. Have decided on the Palace.
Could someone clarify for me how payment works? Is it cash directly to the girl, or pay afterwards?
Does the clock start when you are in the room or when you meet the girl downstairs?
Many thanks.
Hi guys, i'm planning to go tu Frankfurt on 31/12. Anyone knows if Palace will be open? there will be a party nigth or something like this? entrance fee will be the usual 65?
Thanks in advance
06Dec
Arrived in Germany, and went to Palace to fight jet lag. Happened on St. Nicholas Party. Food was definitely better than usual. After eating, went with Mara, a Spanish gal from Barcelona with dark blonde hair and cat's-eye glasses. Very nice rtim figure, with nice breasts and a very thin waist. Good basic service - DFK, DATY, BBBJ, cowgirl. Might see again. 50E. Rested up, then saw Jenny again. She's German from near Kassel. As always, the service was excellent, and I really enjoy her cheerleader body.
10Dec
Went for Christmas Party. Actually ran into Dedalus there (we figured we were fellow ISGers after some conversation). All the girls were dolled up in their finest - many looked absolutely fantastic. Kendra caught my eye, looking ravishing in a black sheath dress. Turns out she'd sat next to me on the couch for quite a while on the 6th, and I'd turned her down. Kendra's German from Dortmund, and she was pushing a 3som ewith her friend Jill, also German, from Cologne. I'd turned both down previously, but it seemed a good idea. 100E for a basic 3some. Both offering competent DFK, BBBJ, DATY and cowgirl. Kendra has some very nice, large, soft tits that are fun to suck and play with, particularly with Jill simultaneously sucking/fucking me. Kendra has the longest meat-flap labia I've ever seen. Good time, but probably would not repeat. After a while, went with Lorisa, German/Swede. She marketed herself as Swedish (and looked the blonde Swede part), but it turns out she’s a souvenir from a German man’s Swedish holiday. After getting knocked up, Mom emigrated to Germany to join Dad, so although half Swedish, she grew up in Germany. I went with her because I’d never done a Swede, disappointed whn I learned the truth. 50E for an below average rushed experience. Would not repeat. Due to crowd and lack of available rooms, we went to the VIP room, which was an interesting experience. Public sex, although not as public as the kino. After a long recovery, I snagged Olympia from Romania. Exquisite eye candy, with a face reminiscent of an old high-school flame. Brought back wonderful memories. However, service was only so-so. No kissing. BBBJ was offered, but far too rough with the teeth. Cowgirl, and a lot of are you finished yet. Giving her benefit of the doubt, she was round 3, so her work was cut out for her. Very late at night, not too long before the 4AM close, I repeated with Susanna. I had helped her earlier in dealing with another Yank. He had succumbed to her temptations and overspent his wallet, at least the euros in his wallet. I crossed paths with them outside of the locker, as he was trying to get her to take dollars. I exchanged $100US for him so he could pay, then told him he always needed to know his budget and never short a girl after she performs to his requests. Susanna and I went back to the VIP room. Again very interesting, watching 6 other couples engage in various acts while we were the lone spectators waiting for space on the bench. Being round 4, couldn’t finish, but I truly do enjoy her personality and body. 50E. Also learned she does anal (that’s what made the other Yank lose track of his spending). I’ll plan accordingly in the future. To top the evening off, for some unknown reason proprietors gave me a free pass for future entry.
14Dec –
Cashed in free pass for last night. Saw Alice, a Dominican living in Madrid. Elegant, model-quality black girl with a fantastic body. Good kisser, CBJ, and excellent cowgirl. Very sweet and fun to talk to. Very sensitive breasts, didn’t like even the slightest pressure on them. 50E. Spent most of the evening sitting and talking with other guests. Met another ISGer, but I can’t recall his handle. Provided a first-time visitor from LA. It was entertaining to make companionship suggestions and watch him come back afterward in typical Yank over-exuberance, two-thumbs up and all. He obviously had a great time. Packed it in after Alice, just not in the mood for more.
[QUOTE=Peter]Stinky,
Did you have ot pay for that session, or did the other guy take the tab?[/QUOTE]I paid for my part.
The other fellow didn't last more than 15 minutes, if that. I suspect that's one reason he wanted a second fellow. He came so fast. Having another guy there for the woman to focus part of the time may have allowed him to last longer. Or, maybe I wasn't quite the guy he would have picked for a threesome. Once he had ejaculated, he got up and left. I don't recall if he paid her on-the-spot right there or later on downstairs.
The woman was nice enough to point out that I could still use the remaining time with her if I wanted to, and I did stay the rest of the half hour with her. Then paid her for my part downstairs.
[QUOTE=Fishnchips]Hello all,
Am looking forward to my first visit to an FKK in january. Have decided on the Palace.
Could someone clarify for me how payment works? Is it cash directly to the girl, or pay afterwards?
Does the clock start when you are in the room or when you meet the girl downstairs?
Many thanks.[/QUOTE]
All you need is to read the reports of distinction thread. It's all there
Chivaz
[QUOTE=Opadani]Also keep in mind that he way the laws are enforced varies quite a bit by the Länder, as a rule of thumb, the more north or west you go, the more tolerant and common sense you can expect the police to do their job. Hmm, I'm not from the US, but isn't it kind of the same there?[/QUOTE]
Good point! I gotta go check out that "Deliverance" DVD from my library again. :D
I am probably going to be at Palace for the evening of 9th Jan. Anyone wanting perhaps to meet up please PM me.
I am a brown skinned asian guy flying for a major asian airline and thinking of tasteing the pleasures of the FKK Palace soon. Have any non-caucasian visitors ever felt not welcome attitudes there?
Yes, I read the general info where it says only your money not the skin color that matters, but any further thoughts on this will be appreciated.
I am scandinavian mysef, but I have seen lots of Asians thoroughly enjoy themselves at Palace, World and Oase. There is a good mix of nationalities among the girls, and there seems to be a good mix of nationalities among the customers too. It seems to me that what counts is your behaviour, not your skin colour. So - go ahead, have a good time!
[QUOTE=Skywards747]I am a brown skinned asian guy flying for a major asian airline and thinking of tasteing the pleasures of the FKK Palace soon. Have any non-caucasian visitors ever felt not welcome attitudes there?
Yes, I read the general info where it says only your money not the skin color that matters, but any further thoughts on this will be appreciated.[/QUOTE]
In my limited visits at Palace I have seen several Asians running off to rooms with naked girls in tow. My guess is that your Asian complexion will be the least of your worries when you step in at the Palace reception. How to keep track of and sample the beauties inside will be the only thoughts that will have you crack beads of sweat.
Just go for it Skywards and you will not repent except for becoming addicted, that is,
Johnny
At the Frankfurt area clubs you will not have any problems with your race being
a problem with the women.
Harry Dude, Johnny Darko, CBGBConnisur
Thank you all very much for your responses and will report the details of my trip to Palace right here.
Wishing all of you happy mongering in '06.
[QUOTE=Skywards747]I am a brown skinned asian guy flying for a major asian airline and thinking of tasteing the pleasures of the FKK Palace soon. Have any non-caucasian visitors ever felt not welcome attitudes there?
Yes, I read the general info where it says only your money not the skin color that matters, but any further thoughts on this will be appreciated.[/QUOTE]I am of the Asian persuasion and had a great time there. I can't wait to get back there soon.
Arrived there with a collegue around 3 p.m., I found a very quiet and sleeping atmosphere due to the many women in the common area and very few guys around.
We've been pressed many times by a couple of sharks continously rounding us (a couple of ugly hispanic girls, a old&fat spanish with big soft boobs, and Linda, a cuban so so lady). After almost 2 hrs. of these continous attacks (we couldn't stay anywhere withut being arrassed...) I decided to try the cuban one because there wasn't a lot better around.
What a silly decision!!
She's a complete rip-off and as soon as you go into the room with her she starts offering CIM and other addtional services to get the most from you.
Fortunately I finished soon but...., last surprise, she asked me a tip !!
I simply laughed and refused but I had to complain with the management.
ESCAPE FROM HER ... if you are able to.
Then I was really disappointed and decided to follow my collegue's suggestion to go for a ukrainian beauty (Alene?) he tried before.
She is really hot, nice and enthusiastic in the bed and has been a very good choice.
Last pick was Daniela, a tall, blonde beauty from Sibiu (Romania).
I've had to expect about 3 hrs. to get her because she went, in the 6 hrs. I spent there, with no less than 15 guys.
Though that, she provided a very good service and didn't watch the clock.
As a final consideration, I found the situation at The Palace a lot worse than my last visit 1 year ago.
The level of the girls is low and, after the 6 p.m., there was a so high number of customers that was difficult even to find a room free.
The place looked crowded the same as the Artemis was but the average level is far away from the Artemis' one.
I have just completed an excellent vacation in which I visited several clubs including Palace. I have written a report grouped by club and have posted all of it on the FKK World thread since I visited World more than any other club and since I think splitting the report across several threads would diminish it. I hope this is a good way to organize and post my experiences and that you will enjoy sharing my memories if you go over there and take a look.
Here are the links to the Palace posts:
[url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=421190&postcount=1149]PALACE POST 1[/url]
[url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=421189&postcount=1148]PALACE POST 2[/url]
[QUOTE=Dedalus]The guy who got laid for free had a 007 moment?[/QUOTE]
I thought thatwas me, On Her Majesties Shagging Service.
Pepto tol me to register here now that I am banned from the other forum. I guess I am going to have to get used to this new forum style.
Nice to see some faces here I recognise..did Nasty Nadine and her BV get posted here?
Mike
[QUOTE=Mike De H]
Pepto tol me to register here now that I am banned from the other forum. I guess I am going to have to get used to this new forum style.
Mike[/QUOTE]
Hey Man,
You are gone from Ax.... Do tell.
Dedalus
[QUOTE=Dedalus]Hey Man,
You are gone from Ax.... Do tell.
Dedalus[/QUOTE]Yes, unfortunately. I got accused of continually "snarking" at others. Banned, end of story. Apparently Gary didn't think the $300 USD worth of business I put his way, or the fact I was a supporting member, or the fact I kept all his personal and private details sacrosanct, was enough to prevent an instant ban during his clearup of the AMsterdam board.
Basically the FKK posts i did were all OK, but I had one too many arguments on the main Amsterdam board, which in my opinion was getting trashy and I publicly sriticised him for not cleaning it up. So he did, and me with it.
So now I will keep in touch by email, my old freinds, like yourself, and Fred, Pepto etc. and put my trip reports on here and keep my nose clean. Axxxtw can go to hell.
I am hoping to make Golden Times on the 12th and if I do not manage it, I will use my new red card at FKK world to good effect in February.
Mike
Hi Mike,
Welcome to the board. No words of nasty Nadine here yet. You might want to repost your recent axx.. reports here, quite some good info in them (and it will get you a quick route to senior membership so you won't have to have the delay in the reports appearing).
Chivaz
Nice to be welcomed. yes, I shall re-post, it is my material after all. There, I feel better knowing I can still keep in touch.
I read Catalyst saying about how Romanian are this or that. I wonder if he or anyone else here tried Clara, a Romania cutie with fake blond long hair around 5'2" without heels and a C cup. She speaks English acceptably well. I wonder if she has a pimp since she kept talking (in English) to 2 older guys (who are with their cloths on in the lounge) while I was there last month. Her service sucks. She told me that once a customer pops his juice, that would be the end of the session. She is not obligated to stay for the entire 30 minutes. I wonder if that only happens during busy hours when the guys to girls ratio is high. Clara doesn't do DFK either. In fact, many of the hot Romanian in Palace don't do DFK. I feel like Palace has become a meat factory catering to the tourist and hence the girls don't care much about the services.
Glad to know I'm not going to miss out on your posts.
[QUOTE=SinglePro] Many of the hot Romanian in Palace don't do DFK. I feel like Palace has become a meat factory catering to the tourist and hence the girls don't care much about the services.[/QUOTE]Hi, nice to meet you.
On another board recently I posted some very in-depth negative reports about Palace. the only good girls seem to be booked up consantly. I found the place absolutely terrible.
The Romanian girls at FKK World rule the roost there and they definately are all GFE providers with a good average level of service.
I know Fred and Daedelus are big fans, but they understand my point of view as they were with me in Palace before Christmas and witnessed what I went through. (And smelled it on one occasion!!)
I know Clara. Absolutely terrible whinging girl. Useless at her job. My favourite club at the moment is Golden time. Not only is it cheaper the service is so much better as there are many part timers there just in it for the sex and the buzz. I have not found athread for it yet on here. Will keep looking.
Hi Mike-
Golden Time posts are in the Other FKK clubs thread.
Clara- yes, a lazy girl at best, our very active friend loves her though.
Looking forward to visiting Golden Time. You know, I've been so smitten with the FFM area that I have yet to see the little cabins at GT.
Beffen
[QUOTE=SinglePro]I feel like Palace has become a meat factory catering to the tourist and hence the girls don't care much about the services.[/QUOTE]I am glad someone brought this up. This is exactly how I felt on a Saturday night not long ago. You could notice girls go in and out of the rooms with new clients every 15 mnts. One girl was very open with this saying that her ambition was to make EUR 200 per hour - and was very disappointed(!) when I wanted to stay the full hour, as that would ruin her business. Also, I had a similar experience with another girl the same night (BTW, none of them were Romanians). These girls have previously been good SP. Needless to say I do not like this trend. And I am yet to experience anything close at Oase or World.
These girls were good at their job, but obviously I will not go with them again. The girls - and club owners - have to understand that this kind of behaviour destroy their business in the long run. The most reliable profits come from regulars.
I think someone on this thread said that the best service at Palace is provided at daytime. Crowded nigths are to be avoided at Palace IMHO.
Please note that the posts I link to here are only part of a larger report on the FKK World branch in which I discuss Romanians. I say that Romanians are on average the best girls and I especially like the ones at World, but there are also bad Romanians, particularly the Uncle Tom/Vampires. In fact the bad Romanians can be some of the worst and can sometimes be responsible for giving all Romanians a bad reputation in places. But the good ones are worth the risk.
[QUOTE=Shark16]I am glad someone brought this up. This is exactly how I felt on a Saturday night not long ago. You could notice girls go in and out of the rooms with new clients every 15 mnts. One girl was very open with this saying that her ambition was to make EUR 200 per hour - and was very disappointed(!) when I wanted to stay the full hour, as that would ruin her business. Also, I had a similar experience with another girl the same night (BTW, none of them were Romanians). These girls have previously been good SP. Needless to say I do not like this trend. And I am yet to experience anything close at Oase or World.
These girls were good at their job, but obviously I will not go with them again. The girls - and club owners - have to understand that this kind of behaviour destroy their business in the long run. The most reliable profits come from regulars.
I think someone on this thread said that the best service at Palace is provided at daytime. Crowded nigths are to be avoided at Palace IMHO.[/QUOTE]
The "processors" are usually eye candy and they only plan on working a short time. Thus, the goal to earn as much as possible. Since the price the girls charge has not gone up, I think there is a temptation to give less for the money. Boards like this keep things honest. It doesn't take much before the processors get on the avoid list. When times are slow, the value girls know the regulars will pull them through. They are the only ones that don't have to beg for sessions when there is no Messe.
[QUOTE=Mike De H]Nice to be welcomed. yes, I shall re-post, it is my material after all. There, I feel better knowing I can still keep in touch.[/QUOTE]
You are most welcome here my man. Keep those humorous reports of your miss-adventures coming.
Cheers,
Dedalus
[QUOTE=Dedalus]You are most welcome here my man. Keep those humorous reports of your miss-adventures coming.
Cheers,
Dedalus[/QUOTE]
Don't want to turn this into a chat, but must say that I am still waiting for Mike's "On Her Majesty’s Shagging Service" report to resurface here. Had me almost crappin' in my pants at the time. Be a sport Mike and post it here. The board has been kind of slow since Catalyst epic report, and we need some fun ;-)
Chivaz
I will be visiting Frankfurt next month to attend a big fair at Messe. Can someone tell me what Palace is like at this time. I was planning to visit at approx 8pm on Sun 12th Feb, after the fair is finished. Is this a crazy time to visit - i.e too packed or not??
Also, where is Golden Time? Is it near Frankfurt? Any website for it?
Cheers,
AJ
Guys,
I plan to visit FKK at Frankfurt in March. The car rental seems to be very expensive from expedia.com. Can anyone kindly give some tips as to how to get cheaper prices? Thanks so much.
Woody
[QUOTE=WhosWho]Also, where is Golden Time? Is it near Frankfurt? Any website for it?
AJ[/QUOTE]Its near the Dutch border at Venlo and Duisberg north west of Dusseldorf.
Try [url]http://www.goldentime.de/[/url] for directions etc. 2 hours drive minimum from Frankfurt.
[QUOTE=WhosWho]I will be visiting Frankfurt next month to attend a big fair at Messe. Can someone tell me what Palace is like at this time. I was planning to visit at approx 8pm on Sun 12th Feb, after the fair is finished. Is this a crazy time to visit - i.e too packed or not?
Also, where is Golden Time? Is it near Frankfurt? Any website for it?
Cheers,
AJ[/QUOTE]Golden Time's Website is [url]www.goldentime.de[/url]
Distance from Frankfurt is 275 kms (172 miles).
Beware, Golden Time is not really a FKK Club
Will be visiting Palace in a few days and wanted to know if Asian girls are still around. There used to be a couple of Thai girls working there in summer 2005. Still there?
Thanks for info.
M
Woody Young
Senior member Euro100 posted in the past an economical car rental for $5 euro. Here the link to the car rental. [url]http://www.sixti.com/cgi-perl/rental/el[/url]
I've seen the car its a small 2 passenger . Its a great deal for the price. You might need GPS in the car to help you find the other FKK. The GPS option will cost more. Hope this helps. Have Fun
Hunter10
[QUOTE=Woody Young]Guys,
I plan to visit FKK at Frankfurt in March. The car rental seems to be very expensive from expedia.com. Can anyone kindly give some tips as to how to get cheaper prices? Thanks so much.
Woody[/QUOTE]
I always get pretty decent prices via sixt. Check out [url]http://www.e-sixt.com/[/url]
And the of course [url]http://www.sixti.com[/url] which is the low cost arm of that organization
Chivaz
Hi,
I plan to visit FKK from Feb 1 to Feb 5. Is that a period of the big fair at Messe? When will be the period of Messe? What is Messe all about? Please advise.
I am a fan of DATY (eat pussy), but still unsure about the safetyness of this activity. I heard DATY is pretty safe (much safer than fuck without using a condom, or nearly as safe as fuck using condom). Any comments?
Thanks a lot.
BB,
There is no need to doublepost. Any of the experts on this site check all the newest posts in the whole FKK section, and if you ask in the General section, don't waste thread space by putting it in this thread too.
Michelangelo,
I've seen 3 Asian females which look like Thais and 1 Russian/Asian during my recent visit. It may depend on your luck what days they work. One day I saw 3 of them and the next visit only 1. Good luck on your find.
Have Fun
Hunter10
I was at the palace last April and had a very cute, petite, natural breasted, spanish beauty. Can't remember her name. I know alot come and go but I know she was very popular and very busy that night. She was a smoking hot, selma hyak type. Anyone know if she is still there? will be going back at end of March. Any info is appreciated.
[QUOTE=Michelangelo]Will be visiting Palace in a few days and wanted to know if Asian girls are still around. There used to be a couple of Thai girls working there in summer 2005. Still there?
Thanks for info.
M[/QUOTE]
The tall thin one was still there last time I was there. You should know though that I am 100% confident that she has not always been a she. Just a friendly warning in case you have a problem with that.
Chivaz
I was at Palace a few nights ago and there was one Thai girl there. I've seen her there alot over the past few months. She alomst always hangs out in the so-called "Loosers' Lounge," the rectangular tent-like area with swinging bench just opposite the 4 rooms-off-the-kino. She has a really nice body and probably a good session attitude. Let us know...
Ortos
Last week (Monday 9th) there was an Asian/Uzbekh in Palace who could have passed for Thai. Petite and gorgeous. Great performance including Thai-style bouncing cowgirl (more rodeo than riding). Top BJ too.
G
[QUOTE=Chewch]I was at the palace last April and had a very cute, petite, natural breasted, spanish beauty. Can't remember her name. I know alot come and go but I know she was very popular and very busy that night. She was a smoking hot, selma hyak type. Anyone know if she is still there? will be going back at end of March. Any info is appreciated.[/QUOTE]I think you may be referring to Elena. She was at Palace during the week last April when I also visited the club several times. I had 2 sessions with her which are some of my favorite memories of the trip. She's one of the aquaintances I hope to renew the first week of March when I am planning a week's visit in the Frankfurt area.
Dalara, Asian-looking Kazakh in the Russian group, another good performer.
Was there Jan 8 during the day. It was kinda quiet but had a couple nice adventures.
Alicia #1 - Tall slim German girl. She is fluent in English and had the best GFE ever at an FKK. She usually works as an escort but comes to Palace when she needs some extra cash. Had a second session with her that was as good as the first.
Alicia #2 - Russian, very cute figure. she has only been there a week. I was short of time so I went to the room without hanging out first. Her english is non existant and she immediately tried to upgrade to 100 Euros for an hour. I said that I wanted 1/2 hour for 50 and she dropped it with a smile and got down to a very nice session with a long 69. She wasnt the best but looking at her while we were doing it made up for her inexperience.
The other sessions were nice but not memorable. The Thai girl that everyone is refering to that hangs out in the tent area was trying to do a double with a kinda cute Spanish girl. I went with the Thai girl before and it was a pretty weak performance.
I will be back there tomorrow Jan 18 starting mid afternoon. If any members are there I would like to say hi. PM me and we can hook up.
[QUOTE=Chivaz]The tall thin one was still there last time I was there. You should know though that I am 100% confident that she has not always been a she. Just a friendly warning in case you have a problem with that.
Chivaz[/QUOTE]Chivaz,
I agree with you a 100 percent. I saw her also. She might have been a he once. She did look very good from a distance. I've seen a few post-ops in Thailand but with drugs and surgery its getting harder to tell with some others. Good idea to post the friendly warning.
Hunter10
Hey Toscana
How was your experience on the 12th?
I always learn from your experience
Did you find a goldmine and decided to keep it for yourself?
Of course, I am also aware that perhaps you did not make it after all! Poor Toscana
JD
I made it OK, but on 9th Jan. I didn't report because there was nothing exceptional really.
It was the night before the textiles Messe, so there was quite a lot going on, but it was by no means impossibly crowded. After about 21.00 it filled up with orientals and Scots, who were obviously testing textiles in preparation for the fair by stretching the clubs towels at the front....
A very good one-hour session with the aforesaid Delara, Kazakh, only so-so in looks, but with a great smile and mischievous eyes. She hangs out with her Russian-speaking friends on the red crescent seating directly beneath the podium.
Average session with Sylvia, Poland. Great looking blonde. She had been finishing the guys off within about 15 mins, so I knew what it was about. It was only going to be an Optikfick. I kept her at it for the full 30 mins by virtue of the fact that I was still knackered after Delara :-) and roaming around a body like that is not the worst way to spend EUR 50. In fact I discovered that she was working the club with another blonde friend, who was the best-looker all night. I'd spoken to her but rejected, as she wasn't even prepared to sit down with me for a few minutes. Don't know her name. In a way it is understandable. These Messe events are big paydays for them.
After that I just got incredibly bored watching one naked beauty after another walking past me on one of those swing couches. It just gets so, so tedious, you know.
[QUOTE=Toscana]I made it OK, but on 9th Jan. I didn't report because there was nothing exceptional really.
but better than watching Desperate Housewives on the telly I guess
Average session with Sylvia, Poland. Great looking blonde. She had been finishing the guys off within about 15 mins, so I knew what it was about. It was only going to be an Optikfick....roaming around a body like that is not the worst way to spend EUR 50.
The best way to spend 50 EUR I say
After that I just got incredibly bored watching one naked beauty after another walking past me on one of those swing couches. It just gets so, so tedious, you know.
I can picture you writing this bit keeping a straight face...makes me laugh
Take care
JD
Anybody saw angelique newly?
(she is from sybery, short brown hair)
KING7
[QUOTE=Toscana]After that I just got incredibly bored watching one naked beauty after another walking past me on one of those swing couches. It just gets so, so tedious, you know.[/QUOTE]
Yes, I know where you come from. The hardship we are sometimes made to experience ... it's just too much. But we soldier on ... ;)
euro
[QUOTE=Hunter10]Chivaz,
I agree with you a 100 percent. I saw her also. She might have been a he once. She did look very good from a distance.
Hunter10[/QUOTE]This woman is still there. My friends, I have no special expertise in the subject, but this does not strike me as a particularly good impersonation of a real woman. Thin, yes, but thin like a teenage boy. Just can't imagine how she manages to fool a single customer. Basically I have to assume at least some of her income is from guys who actually know the deal. Well, that's fine with me. Do you what you like.
On the other hand, I could be wrong, and it would be nice to clear up this controversry once and for all. Here's how. The BBBJs from these creatures are supposed to be on another planet in terms of quality. So the next forum member to spot "her" should simply conduct a little research experiment. I personally won't be in Frankfurt for a while, but I trust Chivaz would be willing to "take one for the team."
[QUOTE=Tawan]I trust Chivaz would be willing to "take one for the team."[/QUOTE]
Dude, I already did, it was by accident and my first and last of that kind. That is why I am so damn sure of what I'm saying. I'm able to shrug it off though.
[QUOTE=Tawan]Just can't imagine how she manages to fool a single customer[/QUOTE]
Damn, now I not only feel bad about the incident but stupid as well. I will now go and get drunk for three days.
And now onto more fun things....
Chivaz
Quote:"The BBBJs from these creatures are supposed to be on another planet in terms of quality."
So Chivaz - How was Mars? LOL
Hi all,
Can someone help me and advise something about this palace LOL
I mean, how is the ambient, the prices up to date, and how are the girls. Are they really totally naked inside?
Thanx a lot
[QUOTE=Iseeu]Quote:"The BBBJs from these creatures are supposed to be on another planet in terms of quality."
So Chivaz - How was Mars? LOL[/QUOTE]
Don't remember, must have been nothing to write home about, but of course you have to take into account that I am drunk right now, 1st day of three trying to drown my memories ;-)
Chivaz
Our Poor Friend Chivaz,
Hey, what are you getting drunk I on I wonder: Chivaz Regal?
But if you can afford to sit in front of a bottle for three days to drown your sorrows, why not spend three nights at Palace (and/or another FKK of your choice) and forget your problems that way?
Am I right that you are overdue for another visit to Deutschland? Wenn kommest du wieder?
Hi Ortos,
Nah, not really a big drinker. I see you made the same spelling mistake as I did. I indeed was thinking about Chivas Regal when I decided on my nick but got the spelling wrong with the z vs s.
Was able to shrug of the experience at Palace at the time, been there done that and hopefully won't happen again. I am not whining, worse thing have happened and I am still alive and kickin' so no need to feel sorry for me ;-)
You are right Ortos, it is long overdue for me to get my butt to Germany. Haven't been able to visit for more than two months. Current engagements at work rule out a quick trip at current time. Let's see what the easter bunny brings.
Crazy travel: Yes, at Frankfurt FKKs they are naked. In many of the NRW clubs they have lingurie on. The ambience is good at Palace and Oase. Can be a bit boring at World IMHO, a bit more relaxed there. Entry price 65e, 50e for a 1/2 hour session. Read the "reports of distinction" and you will get the idea, it's all there.
Chivaz
[QUOTE=Crazy Travel]Can someone help me and advise something about this palace LOL[/QUOTE]
Yes, it's good. Go there. Hump as much as you can. Then come back to your computer and write a report.
[QUOTE=Crazy Travel]I mean, how is the ambient, the prices up to date, and how are the girls.[/QUOTE]
Allright, you could read this if you go back in this thread. But I admit that this takes work. So here is the summary: 65 euro entrance; 50 euro for each 30 minutes of sex. BBBJ is standard and included. CIM or anal will cost you an extra 50. Food and non-alcoholic drinks are included in entrance fee.
Ambience: The palace's theme is that of an oriental harem.
Girls: Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Early in the day you will not have a lot of selection. But starting at 8 pm there is always a nice selection. Mainly Eastern European, a few Germans, a few from Western Europe, here and there a Thai or Brazilian.
[QUOTE=Crazy Travel]Are they really totally naked inside?[/QUOTE]
Hahaha, that's crazy. Whoever gave you this idea? Of course they are not totally naked. They are wearing shoes. :)
euro
[QUOTE=Euro100]CIM or anal will cost you an extra 50[/QUOTE]
Just to add my two cents here, it is hard to find a girl in the Frankfurt clubs that will do anal for 50e extra. You will find a quite number of girls who are game for anal, but I would say most of them will quote you 100e extra. From discussing this with some of the girls, my understanding is that there seems to be a kind of set price among them not to offer anal under 100e.
Chivaz
[QUOTE=Euro100]Hahaha, that's crazy. Whoever gave you this idea? Of course they are not totally naked. They are wearing shoes. :)[/QUOTE]
... and carry a handbag ;)
More seriously, on Wednesday which is Dessous Party night they are wearing lingerie. There may be some other special parties every now and then, like leather night. The remaining nights (most of the nights),....
Are things like the party on the 4th of Feb a monthly thing?
Going to be in Frankfurt for the weekend of 4th/5th March and will probably visit Palace on the Saturday and World on the Sunday. Don't want to find the place is far more packed than usual if it can be helped as less chance of getting what I want :)
[QUOTE=Crazy Travel] Are they really totally naked inside?
[/QUOTE]
As usual, the international mongerer needs understand the local culture. In Germany like in other Northern European countries, nudity is no big deal, the only issue is temperature. Everyone is naked in a regular sauna. And if a German likes the naked FKK environment, it's probably because it gives him the feeling to be on his annual summer beach holidays. It may be reminds him even his first teenage flirts on a nude beach. :) Yes, we are far from the US mentality of guys spending hundred of $$$ just to watch a stripping girl!
Hello,
I spend a couple of hours last week in Palace between 14:00-16:00. There were about 15 girls in the palace most of them in the 5-8 scale.
My first session was with a Patricia from Germany. Small lady, very thin with small breasts. The session was nice. A very good BBBJ and sex in various positions. After the session we chat together while she was trying also to pass her sister whish I refused. As an overall a 7 for her and a 7 for the session.
Second session was with Angelic from Russia. Again a small and thin girl. She is talking a lot and has a good sense of humour. During the session she was moaning all the time. She is giving a very very nice DT BBBJ using a lot of saliva and sacking all the genital area. Sex was average to good and she faked an orgasm while I was coming. The same point for her as for Patricia, 7 for appearance and 7 for service.
Does anyone know how far is InterCityHotel Frankfurt Airport from the Palace? and what would be the best way (inexpesive) to get from one to the other. Thanks
Gringo,
Palace is located in the Industrial section of Hausen, maybe 4-odd kms outside central Frankfurt. So how far is it from the Airport? About 4-odd kms further than it is from the Airport to central Frankfurt.
The least expensive way would be: Take S-bahn from Airport bahnhof to Frankfurt Hauptwache (two S-bahn stops beyond Frankfurt Hauptbahnhof), about 3.10E one-way. Get off at Hauptwache and change to the U-bahn, line 6 or 7. Take that four stops to Industriehof and you are a 5-minute walk from Palace. Maybe you should invest in a Tageskarte (Day Card for the S-bahn) that will allow you to journey back and forth on these metro trains all day and night!
Note also that a taxi to Palace from, say, Frankfurt Hauptbahnhof is about 10E...
I'll be there next week. Any sightings of big breasted Linda from Czech? She was awesome. Any others have experience with her?
Whilst directions are being mentioned, anyone know how far it is from Franklinstrasse to Palace? Gives the impression Franklinstrasse is next to the firground, but can't find a decent clear map of Frankfurt to judge the distance (could be a 10 minute walk or ride?)
[QUOTE=Chivaz]Hi Ortos,
Nah, not really a big drinker. I see you made the same spelling mistake as I did. I indeed was thinking about Chivas Regal when I decided on my nick but got the spelling wrong with the z vs s.
Was able to shrug of the experience at Palace at the time, been there done that and hopefully won't happen again. I am not whining, worse thing have happened and I am still alive and kickin' so no need to feel sorry for me ;-)
You are right Ortos, it is long overdue for me to get my butt to Germany. Haven't been able to visit for more than two months. Current engagements at work rule out a quick trip at current time. Let's see what the easter bunny brings.
Crazy travel: Yes, at Frankfurt FKKs they are naked. In many of the NRW clubs they have lingurie on. The ambience is good at Palace and Oase. Can be a bit boring at World IMHO, a bit more relaxed there. Entry price 65e, 50e for a 1/2 hour session. Read the "reports of distinction" and you will get the idea, it's all there.
Chivaz[/QUOTE]
Chivaz what you meen about boring in World?
[QUOTE=nordboer]Chivaz what you meen about boring in World?[/QUOTE]
The wibe at Palace and Oase is more energetic. More action in the Kinos, more public stuff going on, girls seem to have more fun. World is the place i that I most often get pretty bored in between sessions. On the other hand it is the most relaxing place of the three. Note that I am not that much up to date on the current wibe as I have not been able to visit since last November.
Chivaz
[QUOTE=Chivaz]The wibe at Palace and Oase is more energetic. More action in the Kinos, more public stuff going on, girls seem to have more fun. World is the place i that I most often get pretty bored in between sessions. Chivaz[/QUOTE]
Now, you see, to me its the other way around. In between sessions, Palace and Oase bore the hell out of me. The problem with me is I love to sauna, steam, swim, spa, drink, watch foorball on the TV and sleep. You can do all those things at World.
At palace and Oase, the clubs are so small - you can't run, you can't hide.
The vibe at those places is usually at a higher tempo than World I admit, but thats because World takes more filling before you get the "pressure cooker atmosphere" that most of these places rely on.
As for Girls, well you all know my opinion of Palace, Beffen hates Oase, and so on. thats an argument entirely based on taste that no one will win.
But you can't argue that the facilities at World out-way the others.
Hi Mike,
The reasons you give are exactly why World still gets its even share of my visits, specially during the summer time. When I go with friends or when I am meeting up with someone, it really does not matter, but when you are alone, World is the most "boring" of the three IMO, but that is a matter of degree not a huge difference
I agree on the facilities at World, they are on the whole the best.
Hell, I think it is all good, never had a big preference of one over the other of the big three and my favourite is at any time based 99% of the girls and their performance.
Chivaz
I visit Germany every 3-4 weeks on the way to work. I have a 10 hour layover going then stay overnight on the way back. My routine is to go to Palace on my short layover and then rotate between FKK's on the way back.
This was my least favorite stop during the day at Palace. To their credit the girls said that the day before was a big blow out party but there were only a handful of girls there at 11am when I arrived.
I had a WONDERFUL session with Victoria from Russia. DEEP kissing and lots of oral. She swears she had 3 orgasms. Great show? Who cares it was fun. this is the first time in dozens of visits where time got away from me. She VERY apologetically said that we were close to an hour and ask for 100 Euro. Between the great session and her attitude it was no problem.
The rest of the sessions were mediocre. By 6PM when I was getting prepped to leave there were still only 10 - 12 girls. Not the amazing crew I experienced last trip. I havent been to Oase in a while so I will go there the afternoon of Feb 9. If anyone wants to meet up please PM me.
Good hunting,
b
[QUOTE=JosephA]I'll be there next week. Any sightings of big breasted Linda from Czech? She was awesome. Any others have experience with her?[/QUOTE]Saw her in Nov. Would like to know if she's still there, she was a good time.
“M” gave me the mission. To fly over to West Germany to investigate reports of the machinations of a new master-criminal EARNSALOT BLOW-VELT. Or “BV” for short. This sinister shadowy figure was reported to be running a brothel codenamed “PALACE” in Frankfurt, with a sinister plan to make huge amounts of money at Ignatzmicer’s expense. I also had to investigate that miss Moneygrabber had also been suspected of deserting MI5 to work with BV himself, under the alias "Lena from Check Republic", Then I was to marry Diana Rigg, get her shot in the snow in the Sour Valley on the drive back home and make a full report to the board!
Flying in to Koln/Bonn from Liverpool (first class of cours) on Easyjet, I picked up my Aston Martin DB5, cunningly disguised by “Q” as a Renault Modus from Europcar. The likeness was incredible.
My first stop was to meet with Secret agents Wim and Woofie for some background reference work at Goldentime in Dusseldorf on the Thursday night and then with a suspected “Palace” collaborator called Fed, at “World” in Giessen with his henchman, the warily named “Desert Fox”. From there, I would scout the untainted local talent at World, then meet the two of them, with the local guide “Daedelus” at “Palace” to investigate the crimes of the new master Criminal
The Goldentime part went exceedingly well. Anita from Hungary (not the “World” Anita giving excellent service of an hour and a half full GFE for €150, followed by a forgettable, but nice Sarah Michelle Gellar lookalike for a half hour €50 quickie. All well here, club untainted, girls clean, welcome good, cost effective, friendly, return visit a MUST.
Then over to world on Thursday to meet Fred and DF. I managed a two and a half hour session with a great Girl called Michelle, full GFE, full just about bloody everything. After becoming desensitised to endless naked pussy Fred and I went to the Havannah bar in Linden on a pass-out, where great finger-food and even a complimentary “mini-beer” cocktail was had, served by super-fit happy waitresses. No trace of BV here then. It was here that Fred suggested going to PALACE the next day. I agreed, and went back to World for more investigation before the big event. A quick session with a little vixen called Maria confirmed that "World" was in excellent shape, with lots of new raw talent and good service everywhere.
Back at the Etap, I dropped Fred off at his room and opened my orders. Here, I heard about BV’s dreadful plan.
He had created an airless hell hole in the middle of Frankfurt and filled it with a newly created race of “UBER-HOOKERS”. Each one had huge silicon inserts cleverly located near their brains that turned them into remorseless money making machines, capable only of saying “ja, ja, fuck-me satsi” and variations thereof.
The Girls were to be easily recognised. They would have white lace-up Grecian style sandals, straight bleached blonde hair, black eyebrows, a harsh face with a hook nose and plaster of paris to fill up the laughter lines. Huge black cakings of mascara were likely to be found around the eye-units. Each girl would be called something like Daniella or Amber or Nadine and would be totally indistinguishable from each other. Presumably this was to keep maintenance costs down.
The worst was yet to come. BV had developed a disgusting virus, named after himself! It was supposedly totally harmless to men, and he was supposedly using it to infect these girls. It would make their pussies stink like fuck, and putting the man off his session to cut time. Therefore, the sessions could be repeated more often, the punter kept alive to be milked again, and the girl never gets told because the man feels embarrassed and makes excuses for his own inability to continue. ABSOLUTE GENIUS!!!
After a nice long chat with Fred and Daedelus at the Exchelsior I was primed and ready, not believing any of this. I had been to palace the month before, and was unimpressed, but nothing indicated anything this bad. We drove down, using M’s Tom-Tom navigation system supplied to me by the office. I walked into the hell-hole Palace, hoping to see uber-babes, but was shocked to find the most slovenly bunch of raggety mutts ever to grace an FKK club. Fred muttered something about it not being too good tonight so I soldiered on, trying to find evidence for the report. My instinct after an hour of this, was just to walk out in disgust. But unfortunately I didn’t.
I already knew the facilities here were a joke for a real Sauna man, having had a so-so trip there the previous month. No pool, broken spa bath, and chlorine smell creeping around everywhere, but at least the food was good. Notable were the tattooed muscle men from World who came in just to couch action the girls. Later they would fuck them of in short time. This amused me whilst waiting for the “real-girls” to walk in.
Then it happened. It was like invasion of the clones. The AmberDaniellaNadine creatures walked in. Dozens of them. Immediately, many of them started creeping up to the Maori wannabies from “World”.
Feeling scared, my first contact was with a known reference Girl, the truly excellent Leanna from Ukrane. One quick 20 minute session and she had me finishing in quick order. No problems here.
Later on, completely unable to find any girl that remotely looked interesting, real, or even attractive, I got fed up watching D and F go with their known favourites (who were not my type) and watching them have great sessions.
I got suspicious though, because these “good” providers were booked solid with private appointments. I could not get a session with Maria, for instance who was reasonably attractive to me, because she was booked solid in three-four hour appointments. On a more sinister note, the other providers were turning tricks with onerous regularity in short bursts. I should have been warned!!!
Desperate for a fuck, I braved the Nadia Clone. Being the best of all of them, I had high hopes of the silicon barbie-doll with the heavy black eyes.
In the room with Nadia, she seemed a nice enough person with some vague regard to her professional standing. She asked me to relax and did the BBJ thing almost well, but a bit hard, probably hoping I would come straight away. Failing that, she (surprisingly) invited sex, by opening her legs and crassly rubbing gunk over the whole vulva area, and it turned to a yucky white mess as she did it, whilst pretending it was masturbating. I then went quickly to missionary hoping to finish quickly, but then the problems really started. One hand over the front of the vagina to prevent body contact at that point and another hand on my chest to prevent upper body contact. The ecstatic shouting was hilarious. A total joke. Then the smell started. It was true!! The BV virus was working a treat. I went to doggie to bravely try to defeat it, but I had to stop. Whole session time - FOUR minutes! I even made the excuse I was too sore to carry on, so as not to hurt her feelings. I paid her the full 50 euros and she told me it was best if I went home!!!!!
I then did not shower and went straight to Fred and Daedelus for verification. They were in the Spa . I thrust my unwashed hand, which was now only a fraction as smelly under their noses in turn. Daedelus nearly threw up and Fred actually ran off and ordered me to wash my hands before entering the water.
A worse session (if possible) followed with Check Lena. (AKA Miss MONEYGRABBER) I have had better service in my WORST Asterdam window sessions. I got: “I’m too busy to talk, do we go to the room or not?”. Along with “I will not lie down beside you, I am tired and I may go to sleep” and “Your dick is not hard enough to fuck” - which is a self fulfilling prophecy, after refusing any foreplay. I got five miutes of sucking. I then just wanked off with her helping me; in order to try and get my money’s worth. I then joined Daedelus in the Kino.
Daedelus was pissed off because he could not get time with his baby. Fred was pissed off waiting for Katerina for yet another session with her, although we had some fun watching her with a guy in a kino, giving only the kind of service I would expect as normal at World or Goldentime. Fred, after timing the session to the minute managed a last session by jumping in just after payment. Comment of the night from Fred as we watched the current customers performance in the Kino.. "Ah look, He's soft already, he he he ". Cruel, very cruel as Fred waited there with fresh towel and wallet in had.
I drove off in disgust for breakfast at "World" the next day.
I drove back over the snow covered sour valley, failed to find Diana Rigg, and flew back to compile my report.
Mike De-Havilland
How late does public transport run on Friday night?
QUOTE=Ortos]Gringo,
Palace is located in the Industrial section of Hausen, maybe 4-odd kms outside central Frankfurt. So how far is it from the Airport? About 4-odd kms further than it is from the Airport to central Frankfurt.
The least expensive way would be: Take S-bahn from Airport bahnhof to Frankfurt Hauptwache (two S-bahn stops beyond Frankfurt Hauptbahnhof), about 3.10E one-way. Get off at Hauptwache and change to the U-bahn, line 6 or 7. Take that four stops to Industriehof and you are a 5-minute walk from Palace. Maybe you should invest in a Tageskarte (Day Card for the S-bahn) that will allow you to journey back and forth on these metro trains all day and night!
Note also that a taxi to Palace from, say, Frankfurt Hauptbahnhof is about 10E...[/QUOTE
Hi,
I'm in Frankfurt for a couple of days at the end of this week. Anybody like to head to Palace on Sun or Mon night?
[QUOTE=Gringo Mojado]How late does public transport run on Friday night?
[/QUOTE]
The last U-7 from Industriehof/Neue Börse back to Frankfurt is at 1:24 AM, and the last U-6 is at 1:44 AM. (You can check the posted schedule at the stop.) There is a bus that runs even later, but I am not sure of its route.
Timetables may be found here [url]http://www.rmv.de/[/url] .
V.
Does anyone know how long a walk it is from the ibis to Palace?
[QUOTE=Akibono]Does anyone know how long a walk it is from the ibis to Palace?[/QUOTE]From the Ibis Hotel (West/Hausen) it's only a 5-minute-walk to Palace.
Globus
"Does anyone know how long a walk it is from the ibis to Palace?"
After hours of analysis and experimentation, I have concluded that the walk from hotel to Palace is: 7.2 minutes...
Just arrive in Frankfurt.
Which FKK is the best for daytime action?
Thanks,
Justy
[QUOTE=Ortos]"Does anyone know how long a walk it is from the ibis to Palace?"
After hours of analysis and experimentation, I have concluded that the walk from hotel to Palace is: 7.2 minutes...[/QUOTE]
From Ibis to Palace is 3 min, and from Palace to Ibis is 20min :D
[QUOTE=Justy]Just arrive in Frankfurt.
Which FKK is the best for daytime action?
Thanks,
Justy[/QUOTE]
Probably world, followed by Oase in the day
[QUOTE=WhosWho]Hi,
I'm in Frankfurt for a couple of days at the end of this week. Anybody like to head to Palace on Sun or Mon night?[/QUOTE]Well, anybody fancy a few beers and then heading to Palace on Sun night?
Cheers,
AJ
[QUOTE=Ortos]"Does anyone know how long a walk it is from the ibis to Palace?"
After hours of analysis and experimentation, I have concluded that the walk from hotel to Palace is: 7.2 minutes...[/QUOTE]Lol Ortos,
Would you mind redoing and reviewing your experimentation and data and getting back to us on it? Am a bit concerned about the degree of accuracy of your figure of 7.2 minutes.
Yes? Somehow, I didn't think you mind doing it again? :-)
Apologies for this much delayed report from the Palace!
This was the day after the end of Heimtextil Frankfurt 2006, referred to by Toscana a few pages ago. I arrived there rather late, about 11:00 PM and there were still a few of the left over Messe visitors, having their last encounters at the Palace. As I went to the Palace directly from FRA airport, I requested and was allowed to leave my carry on luggage, behind the reception counter. Showered and toweled, I entered into the main lounge.
I saw the Thai-looking girl from Kazakhstan, but between the inspired pole dances and her customers she was unavailable. I had a bit of food and went for a snooze in the kino. I was pleasantly woken up with a BBBJ by Sandy from Brazil. She is about 5'10" in her acrylic heels and has obviously enhanced breasts. In any case, we went to one of the rooms, adjacent to the kino. No sooner had she started the BBBJ inside, she started her upgrade pitch for the one-hour session. She offered to throw in a complimentary CIM, for the E100. I politely refused and stuck with the half-hour session. After about 10 minutes of BBBJ, she deftly slipped on a condom from her mouth and started a rather rough cow-girl session. Returning the favor, after about 10 minutes of missionary and doggie slamming, I asked her to finish with a HJ. A competent hand finish though, with loads of fake moans. Overall rating: Body-8/10; Performance-7/10.
At the lockers, she saw that I had about E500 in a currency clip and immediately demanded E20 extra, for her family and just would not quit whining. There was a German punter at the locker who admonished her in German, presumably for her demands for a tip. I did not pay her anything extra and she spent the rest of the night, giving me baleful glares.
It was almost 3:00 AM and suddenly there were no more than 10 girls left over. I wanted to do one more session before heading over to my hotel. So, when I was approached by Julia from Russia, I said yes, a little bit too eagerly without checking out the goods. An average looking woman and a very average performance. She rushed through the session in 20 minutes and completed with a CBJTC. And, had the nerve to demand an additional E50 for it. Overall rating: Body-6/10; Performance-6/10.
Regular visitors to FKKs, can you clarify if any additional payment is required for the CBJTC, when you cum inside the mouth, but only inside the condom, not really a true CIM?
Cheers!
ChicagoMan
There were two real hot-looking dancers, who did a few strip dances on the poles, but I never did see them soliciting or approaching any of the punters at the bar. After a few dances, they simply dressed up and left. One of them was very pretty and sexy. Does anyone know if they are working girls? No?
In the past in Palace, I have seen a belly-dancer with a lovely yellow Burmese python, dancing. She definitely was there only for the entertainment and was certainly not a working girl. The working girls were lining up after her for taking photographs of themselves with her and the python. She had a male partner who was performing cool fire blowing tricks. Are digital cameras and/or mobile telephones w/cameras allowed onto the floor in Palace, now?
Cheers!
ChicagoMan
[QUOTE=Will Stewart]Are things like the party on the 4th of Feb a monthly thing?
Going to be in Frankfurt for the weekend of 4th/5th March and will probably visit Palace on the Saturday and World on the Sunday. Don't want to find the place is far more packed than usual if it can be helped as less chance of getting what I want :)[/QUOTE]I'll probably be there that same weekend. Don't steal the good ones!
Maloso
ChicagoMan writes: Are digital cameras and/or mobile telephones w/cameras allowed onto the floor in Palace, now?
Not likely. There is one phone camera pic on this forum of an SP in the locker area of an FKK, but my guess is that the monger's phone went right back into the monger's locker about 0.00001 second later.
Whitey,
you are right, I took that photo and put away my camera phone straight away after. Although you can use a phone in the locker room, BUT not anywhere else in the club. Same goes for regular camera.
ChicagoMan,
You should not pay extra for CBJTC. She conned you there. I have been conned a few times too, but now I always clarify the price and services before the start of the session, and then I say "Look I am only going to give you €50 afterwards, and no more." Since I started that I have had no probs.
[QUOTE=Wan King]Whitey,
you are right, I took that photo and put away my camera phone straight away after. Although you can use a phone in the locker room, BUT not anywhere else in the club. Same goes for regular camera.
[/QUOTE]
I thought there was a sign in the locker room at The Palace saying 'No Cell Phones' as well. I could be thinking of another place.
Viagrant,
Actually you are right, but twice in there I took my phone out of the small locker to check for messages and the mangeress told me to bring it to the locker room. So the sign is a little misleading.
I reckon they would prefer no use of phones anywhere in the club, but tolerate their use in the locker room, or some such shit like that.
I don't think you are allowed to bring cameras or cell phones into the main public areas of the club, that is my understanding of the matter. Some clubs are particularly watchful of clientele who try to give contact information, that is one issue with an FKK, since you are both naked, where do you hide your address and phone number?? In the crack of your ass?? There was one poster here who gave his address and number, and the girl was in front of his apartment building a few months later, lucky guy.
I don't really give a shit if anybody takes pics of girls in an FKK. But I sure do not want anybody taking my picture. This rule is much more for our own protection. Respect it! No cameras, no cell phones.
euro
I wonder if, like in other saunas or FKK, there is a price list in Palace?
Somebody experimented the Dinner Buffet?
Thanks... I'll be there next week!
IT
[QUOTE=It Travel]I wonder if, like in other saunas or FKK, there is a price list in Palace?
IT[/QUOTE]
IT TRAVEL,
there is a site where you can see prices, roadmap, snapshots/photos, etc..
PM me and I'll give you all the details.
[QUOTE=It Travel]Somebody experimented the Dinner Buffet?
IT[/QUOTE]
If you give a look in this forum (also in the other FKK clubs) you can get all the infos you may need, and you will notice that something like to one maybe don't like to another
As ever, YMMV
If you're italian, could you PM in our language
Ciao
[QUOTE=ChicagoMan]Regular visitors to FKKs, can you clarify if any additional payment is required for the CBJTC, when you cum inside the mouth, but only inside the condom, not really a true CIM?
Cheers!
ChicagoMan[/QUOTE]
Well, technically no, its not extra, because with a COBJTC (covered opaque blow job to cum) she would not know you had come anyway, so how could she charge you, although the condom would be more expensive; any more than CFSICTC (covered full sex in **** to cum) cost more than CSIC. BBBJ (bareback blow job) also (without the TC) costs no extra, and if you were faking your orgasm in thise cisrumstances, again, how would she know you had cum (you could say you had a long night or a very effective vaasectomy). Of course, CASBCBJTCWSC covered anal sex before covered blow job to cum with same condom) would cost a lot more, but thats only because of the risk of shit geting in her mouth not because you CIS (came in sack) so to recap CBJTC is ok BBBJTC is not however CFSIC and CFSICTC are both the same price because you CIS not CIM and BBASCIA would be most expensive of all, but then again if she shits afterwards quickly then there is not a problem.
clear?
Hey Mike,
I always do a BBBJTCWFO (bareback blow job to completion with faked orgasm). That way I do not have to pay the extra 50e.
Chivaz
Still beats me why a girl would want to give a blowjob whilst you're wearing a condom. Surely it can't taste too good, espcially if lubricated somehow.
WTF??????? O, I C! There's one additional acronym that applies if you happen to be a newbie visiting an FKK for the very first time and you first lay eyes on all of those beautiful naked women walking around the place, although there's no monetary charge involved. It's called CIT (cumming in towel).
You left out the highly underrated FIPTOCBBJFIF (Fingers in Pussy, Tongue on Clit, Covered BJ Fart in Face) otherwise known as the C69PG (Covered 69 pass gas)...LOL
Br
ICU
What about STOOF (sex till out of funds) or STOK (sex till organ is kaput)? LOL!
Things got a bit excited last year with a Latvian girl, and we ended up with CIMFHPHBWASJMLS (Come in Mouth, Face, Hair, Pillow and Headboard, with Away-Swing Just Missing the Lamp Shade). The possibilities are endless. :-)
[QUOTE=Chivaz]Hey Mike,
I always do a BBBJTCWFO (bareback blow job to completion with faked orgasm). That way I do not have to pay the extra 50e.
Chivaz[/QUOTE]
Once at an FKK I experienced a BBBJTCWOE (Bare Back BJ to Completion Without Ejaculation), but I paid the extra 50e anyway because I liked the girl, and it wasn't her fault nothing came out on the third orgasm of the night. :-)
V.
I have read that Atlantis was close. But i just find out that it is now in Hanau about 30 km. north form FRankfurt.
[url]http://www.fkk-atlantik.de/page/main.html[/url]
[QUOTE=Viagrant]Once at an FKK I experienced a BBBJTCWOE (Bare Back BJ to Completion Without Ejaculation), but I paid the extra 50e anyway because I liked the girl, and it wasn't her fault nothing came out on the third orgasm of the night. :-)
V.[/QUOTE]
So if one has a BBBJTCWOWE (bareback blow job to completion with orgasm but without ejaculation) you have a totally different thing going than BBBJTCWFO (bareback blow job to completion with faked orgasm). What I am practising these days , and hope to try out in my next Fkk trip, is is BBBJWEWO (bare back blow job with ejaculation but without orgasm) which is different than BBBJTCWFO where there is no ejaculation. I have yet to find out the point by it, but the practise is great fun. No success yet though which might explain why the practise is fun ;-)
Chivaz
I met a girl working her first night at Palace (or any Frankfurt club for that matter) tonight. She had previously worked at Golden Time for about a year. I decided to be her first Frankfurt customer. Her name is Emma, and she is a petite little Romanian with spiky short black hair. She spoke good English, was sweet to me, responded well to DATY, and gave the best BJ of the three girls I had sessions with today.
[QUOTE=Datum]My first session was with a Patricia from Germany. Small lady, very thin with small breasts.[/QUOTE]
The one with a lot of tattoos, correct?
I decided to continue playing the role of welcoming committee tonight with another girl who was new to Palace and new to Frankfurt but not new to the business. It did not go as well as last night.
Donna from Poland is young, tall, tan, and slender; has long, straight, dark brown hair with just a couple of bleached streaks in it; has rather prominent and firm labia and clitoris; and speaks just a little English. Things were going well through the introductions, BBBJ, DATY, and initial CFS phases. Then I learned to my dismay that she is one of the girls who, after I had gotten her juices flowing heavily and had been pumping away at her for a good while, begins to emit an unpleasant odor down there. That threw me off, and I withdrew and finished manually while she patiently assisted for a long time.
I will be in Frankfurt next month for a couple of days. Staying near the main train station (acoss street). Can I get there by Tram? Which ones? What are the fees once there?
[QUOTE=DFWdude]I will be in Frankfurt next month for a couple of days. Staying near the main train station (acoss street). Can I get there by Tram? Which ones? What are the fees once there?[/QUOTE]
Search the board and you'll find it as it has been covered several times. Taxi will only cost you 10e from the main train station.
Chivaz
Slightly off top, but was looking at the Palace website last night and watching the video and looking at the photos. So, do any of those girls actually work there? It mentions around 50 girls and with a dozen photos or so, some of which have been there a while, I'm asuming they're not quite up to date, if ever.
[QUOTE=Will Stewart]Slightly off top, but was looking at the Palace website last night and watching the video and looking at the photos. So, do any of those girls actually work there? It mentions around 50 girls and with a dozen photos or so, some of which have been there a while, I'm asuming they're not quite up to date, if ever.[/QUOTE]
I've seen a few of them in the club. Note that the pictures are not very representative of the quality as there are none of the really good looking ones with their pictures on the site. I would say the girls that have their pictures on the website are in the lower 50% in terms of looks.
Chivaz
[QUOTE=Alex P Keaton]The one with a lot of tattoos, correct?[/QUOTE]Yeap! Correct. If she continue this way I think that in a couple of years she will be full covered with tattoos!
[QUOTE=DFWdude]I will be in Frankfurt next month for a couple of days. Staying near the main train station (acoss street). Can I get there by Tram? Which ones?[/QUOTE]
Public transportation from Hauptbahnhof (the main train station downtown) to Palace:
Take the U4 line bound for Bockenheimer Warte. Ride through one stop--Festhalle/Messe--and get off at the Bockenheimer Warte stop.
Transfer to either the U6 or U7 line. (They follow the same route for as far as you need to go.) Take either the U6 line bound for Praunheim/Heerstrasse or the U7 line bound for Hausen. Ride through these stops--Leipziger Strasse and Kirchplatz--and get off at the Industriehof/Neue Borse stop.
Walk to the front of the train, descend the platform, turn left, and cross the tracks at the crosswalk. Continue in the crosswalk to cross the street. You will be facing a brown stone wall with graffiti on it. Turn right, keeping the wall on your left, and walk a short distance until there's a gap in the wall. Turn left, walk through the gap, and keep walking for a block. Cross one more street and, after a short distance, you will see a Palace sign on the building on your left. Walk around the back side of that building, through the parking lot, and you will see the entrance on your left. Walk up, and the desk attendant will buzz you in the through the gate.
There is currently road construction going on in front of Palace, but this won't affect you if you're riding the U-Bahn rather than driving.
I dont even know how to spell it.
Is there a guide for the incoherent letter soup that is being used in some forums?
Please dont get it the wrong way and I know that a lot of fun has been made about this subject, but I believe that there is room for claryfication.
Regards
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Sorry,
Guess I am the fool now. Oh well
Visited Palace twice over the weekend. My favorites were not there but there were plenty to choose from.
Had a good session with Mirabel (Italian/German) medium height, brunette, thin, and looks spanish. Limited english, but was friendly. Would recommend for those who like DATY since she offered it without asking. It was a strange session because I offered and hour session which she agreed to. Then after a 1/2 hour she asked if I wanted to come again. When I said I did not, she asked if I wanted to continue beyond the 30 minutes. I thought I should quit while I was ahead and gave her an extra 20 for being fair and honest. Would definitely recommend.
Did not sample Angela (pretty petite from Columbia). Seemed sweet. Also, was pursued by a Czech (blonde, tall) called Natasha. Looks like a good prospect.
Another agressive girl named Stephanie offered a session. She was hot but I got bad vibes from her.
On my second visit. Ran into an old friend who was just visiting for a few days. I won't give her name since she is not a regular working girl. Needless to say the session was passionate. Second session was with a Romanian girl named Olympia. Again petite and looked likda spanish. In the room she immediately said no kissing and offered BBBJ. Decided to stick to the basics and she ended the session very quickly. Would not recommend. I don't know about others, but I have never had a good session with a Romanian girl. They always have a boyfriend and are only into money. There is never any pretension of passion. However, I have had great experiences with Germans, Russians, Spanish, and Czechs.
"Second session was with a Romanian girl named Olympia. Again petite and looked likda spanish. In the room she immediately said no kissing and offered BBBJ. Decided to stick to the basics and she ended the session very quickly. Would not recommend. I don't know about others, but I have never had a good session with a Romanian girl. They always have a boyfriend and are only into money. There is never any pretension of passion. However, I have had great experiences with Germans, Russians, Spanish, and Czechs."
Akibono,
Thanks for your very useful report! Just an opinion or two here:
I don't think it is fair or indeed accurate to paint all Romanian girls, or girls from any country (even Germany for that matter!) with the same brush. True there are many Romanians who possess the attitude and performance characteristics you describe. But there are also some Romanians who will offer you amongst the best sessions you can find. Two striking examples at Palace are: A) The somewhat plump, yet very GFE-oriented raven-haired Christina (a very popular girl who will deliver and make you believe not all Romanians are that bad...); and B) The very attractive blonde-haired Daniella, who can sometimes deliver extremely good sessions, but than might turn around the next time with a fairly lack-lustre performance --so she has problems with consistency.
I can also say that there are some very good Romanian girls working at World, girls you must distinguish from the bad apple Romanians working there too. Alot of the success of the session depends on us, the guys, and our selection ability. We should have enough skill and patience and intelligence to get a feel for the kind of bad apple before we committ to a session...
As for this Olympia: If you've done any kind of research here, you would know that it has long been reported to avoid this particular girl: all looks, very bad attitude. Btw: Did you ask her if she kissed BEFORE you went to the room?
Lastly, I have had great sessions with girls of all nationalities (even German girls!! believe it or not!), but have also had dreadful dud sessions with girls from the same nationalities. So there is no guarrantee you well get a winning session from, say, a Russian or a Czech girl. There are some really bad rip-off Russians, but at the same time, a huge pool of good talent from that and other surrounding countries with the same language as well. Again, it all goes back to us and our selection techniques or lack thereof...
Ortos
[QUOTE=Akibono] I don't know about others, but I have never had a good session with a Romanian girl. They always have a boyfriend and are only into money. There is never any pretension of passion. However, I have had great experiences with Germans, Russians, Spanish, and Czechs.[/QUOTE]
Well, in my experience I have never had a truly bad experience with a Rumanian girl, like, ever really? Some sssions that have maybe not worked, but they always offer some level of GFE.
Other girls have been varied though, from other EE nationalities.
Maybe its just Palace. The regime there trends to be business like and without much attempt at management control of the cool providers.
Spent two nights
The first nights (20.00-04.00) at Palace the male:female ratio was very good but then no real stunners. Mind you, I rarely go with stunners but they are sure good eye candy. Linda was not there for a change by Leena was working. She must have done abour 20 guys even though it was a slow night...practically almost every guy ha ha...
My mantra that day was : KISS, KISS, KISS, and everything will be okay. Salu to Ortos and Euro100 as this sheme worked wonders...
First session with Leanne from Odessa, Ukraine, she seems a bit cold at the beginning but the fact that she only asked me to go to a room after 10 minutes chit-chat augured well. I said that I am going to have a coke and she said that she too was thirsty. nayhow we went to the bar and I kissed her...she responded and after 10 minutes cudlding and kissing off to a room. I cam very quickly but she stayed in the room cuddling for about 15 minutes more...stayed 25 minutes in all in the room. Recommended...
After staring and picking up small conversations with others I fancied Mara from Spain and we got on really well. She has spectacles but it was her perky tits and ass that did for me and ABOVE all that she kissed me before agreeing to go to a room. The rooms were full so we stayed kissing on the sofa for about 15 minutes : GREAT. In the room I looked at her pussy and she said that it was okay if I did DATY but I declined and asked her to continue BBBJ. The Customer is King and she did so but she was enjoying it. Later she told me that she works in the morning and that being there at night was an exception. Recmmended too.
Did not see anybody who I fancied, was sleepy and called it a night at 03.45 after viewing the eye candy as long as possible. Met Mirabel during this time a tall Romanian whose name I forgot. Both speak Italian and both were nice to convcerse with. Dunno how they fare in the room though.
JD
There must have been a messe because Palace was full of guys. Did not like it much but I was not going to leave. I met Danielle who I knew fro previous visits and to my surprise she was free. She was okay but was a bit depressed as the rooms were always full and she hated to wait. Well, we waited and kissed a little but did not enjoy it much as she grumbled a lot. She was very friendly in the rooms and provided good sex. She took care of me because we knew each other beforehand but I could see that her mind was elsewhere. I have a soft spot for her so I still would repeat next time.
There was a Pamela look-alike from Belarus whose name I did not get and was embarrased to ask her to repeat it more than twice. She was nice and althugh it was evident that she did not care a f*ck for me the session was great...she kept eye contact all along the BBJ so I decided to prolong it to an hour. She reacted as if she was very happy with this (maybe she knows but one never knows with these platinum blondes) and continued the BBJ. Her best asset is the continuous eye-contact because she is too professional. A pSE provider I have to say. Would not repeat though because once is enough.
So not as good as the first day. Perhaps of the mEsse but most probably because I had forgotten my mantra : KISs, Kiss, Kiss. Dunni why but I forgot about it completely.
I think that I agree with Mike that Palace is becoming too business-like. Time to experience new FKKs
JD
Johnny (or should I say: Giovanni?),
Great reports about Palace. Sounds like you are now a fairly advanced FKK-monger: You have developed a game-plan (or mantra, as you call it), and are able to take a reflective, self-analytical view of your selection strategies. You sound just like me!
Sounds like your first day was really good because it was a quiet night at Palace vs the crowded conditions on Day 2. Your account of Daniella is superb. I've always had a problem with this girl -- though not with her looks (esp her legs and ass!). I think that originally she was quite good, but she just got too jaded and ego-inflated. I mean she knows she is a top looker and this has affected her attitude and performance. But if she floats your boat, what can you do? You are condemned to repeat, I know. Lucky for me, I did her once about a year or so ago and that was enough.
Same with Natalie of Belarus, who is undoubtedly the PSE-provider you describe. Yeah, a really great BBBJ. But once was enough for me too...Funny I saw her working two nights last week, and, although I myself was not that tempted --there were plenty of other more GFE opportunities-- I did think to myself: Wow, she is still looking quite good.
But both these girls represent a category that abounds at Palace, namely: Processors. Linda of Czech might also fit into that, yet, she, for me at least, is a very GFE-oriented session provider, since I have been able to form a special bridge or bond with her (I was one of her early customers way back when) and I always get what I want from her without any scam or rush. Yet the other Czech Processor, Lina(?) is a girls that I myself would always steer well clear of. As you describe she is just a rapid process machine. Definitely NOT my type!
I still rate Palace as way up there as a club. The location and vibe (similar for me to the ex-Atlantis) are great! Yes, there is a population of girls to really avoid, many. Yet there is a huge admixture of regular or semi-regular GFE-girls (real kissers and hang with you till the erotic end!) plus frequent free lance visiters including lots of 8s and 9s from other German towns who are just coming down for short stints.
Like playing at a low-limit poker table, if you are willing to study the opposition, display patience and intelligence, Palace can be a high-scoring, profitable field to play...
Ortos
Palace is an interesting venue. Perhaps because it is so convenient for the infrequent visitors to Frankfurt, ie Messe meisters, this pool of inexperienced customers attracts the more predatory and lazy girls. While I have had some super sessions at Palace in the last 18 months or so, it can get boring there on a number of nights.
One of my top girls of recent months had blonde Romanian Danielle. One trip we did two consecutive one hour sessions that were superlative, really wild and hot, when it was relatively slow. Then, on the next trip, the big Christmas party where all the women wore elaborate gowns and hairdos, I made the mistake of jumping on her as soon as she arrived. The rooms were already in short supply at 7:30 PM so she took me to the tent room behind the pool. She wouldn't let me take off her dress all the way, don't touch my hair, people yacking right outside the curtain, in short a waste of 50 euros. So, girls attitude can change with the supply of fish out there. I bailed from that party with two new friends soon after and had a blast until 4 AM at a very slow FKK World where it was like shooting fish in barrel.
beffen
[QUOTE=Ortos]
But both these girls represent a category that abounds at Palace, namely: Processors. Linda of Czech might also fit into that, yet, she, for me at least, is a very GFE-oriented session provider, since I have been able to form a special bridge or bond with her (I was one of her early customers way back when) and I always get what I want from her without any scam or rush. Yet the other Czech Processor, Lina(?) is a girls that I myself would always steer well clear of. As you describe she is just a rapid process machine. Definitely NOT my type!
Ortos[/QUOTE]
I have to agree. This girl was actually a borderline ripoff and I was very angry with Lena.
That did it for me! (Read the "On Her Majesty's Shagging Service" report I did off the back of the sessions with Lina and Nadine of palace)
I don't really mean to imply that all Romainians are bad. It's just that I have not had a really good experience with one yet at any of the clubs. It could be just the luck of the draw. On the other hand, some of the most beautiful girls are from Romania. So, I may be choosing the eye candy.
[QUOTE=Ortos]
But both these girls represent a category that abounds at Palace, namely: Processors. Linda of Czech might also fit into that, yet, she, for me at least, is a very GFE-oriented session provider, since I have been able to form a special bridge or bond with her (I was one of her early customers way back when) and I always get what I want from her without any scam or rush. Yet the other Czech Processor, Lina(?) is a girls that I myself would always steer well clear of. As you describe she is just a rapid process machine. Definitely NOT my type!
Ortos[/QUOTE]
Interesting. Czech Lina is one of my favorites, and I have never found her to offer a rushed service (in about 4 or 5 sessions). Sure, she is not as GFE as some, but I really enjoy my time with her. Maybe we just "click". To each his own.
V.
That's quite interesting! I can tell you that I have been to Palace alot over the past six months. Virtually everytime I've been, I've observed this Czech Lina working there --she seems to be always there! And every time I notice that she must have 15+ sessions per night! From my observations she is one of the biggest Processors I've ever encountered. I did have 1 session with her in Oct or Nov. It was, for me, a very sub-par session and there was absolutely no chemistry. She denied me any kind of intamacy at all, so YMMV does come into play. Interestingly, during my many visits subsequent to that sub-par session, she never, ever approaches me, as if she knows she just took my money and knows well I would never ever go to a room again. Thus she has written me off, just the way I've written her off...
Now, having said all that, I do completely accept that she might well be a great session for somebody else. Chemistry is what it's all about. Another example: Czech Linda, the big-breasted one, always gives me a fantastic session with real great intamacy, amazing DFK and BBBJ, etc. She really gets into my private little fantasies with her and lets me fullfil them in a great GFE atmosphere. But I know this same girl to other guys is can be a real Processor too. So I think some of these girls behave differently with different guys. It helps of course if you've seen them more than once...
It is such an interesting hobby, in't?
[QUOTE=Ortos]
It is such an interesting hobby, in't?[/QUOTE]
It is, but what I have found is that some people are less fussy than others. Some punters are more compliant, more thick skinned and tend not to pck up on bad vibes. then they can't understand why others won't go with a girl they like.
Lena / Lina is an impatient woman. "Clicking" with her is not the issue. You don't have to be short with somebody like she is short with so many.
Right in the middle of the big city, there is no end of new punters for the spiders trap, so the "processors" can operate fine for the moment at palace. Things go in cirlces though, and if the management don't do something then another club will come along and Palace will have had its day.
Mark my words.
"Right in the middle of the big city, there is no end of new punters for the spiders trap, so the "processors" can operate fine for the moment at palace. Things go in cirlces though, and if the management don't do something then another club will come along and Palace will have had its day.
Mark my words."
Mike,
You sound so angry, so full of hostility towards Palace. Mark MY words: don't blame the club, blame the girl selection! You loose at tennis, don't blame the racket...
I know you have posted detailed accounts of your bad experiences at Palace. But I really think you have it all wrong. There are some really great girls there, but there are indeed a large number of "processors." But I got news for you: you can find processors at every club, at World and Oase too.
I look at Palace, and all clubs or mongering venues for that matter, as giant minefields. You just got to study the girl selection landscape and make sure you don't step on a mine.
So you visited Palace fairly early in your FKK career. Now you are more club-savoy, more street-wise. I think you should go back to Palace packed with more skills at selecting girls, picking up on those "processor" vibes. You will find, I'm sure, that you will be able to play the field more sucessfully than you did during your initial visits. Consider that when you went there, you may have been like an intermediate skier going down a black-diamond run: so you got spilled on your ass, like we all did (and still do from time to time.). So what? Shit happens.
I was at Palace just last weekend and I can tell you there were alot of good GFE prospects. In fact, with good selection abilities, you can hit more GFEs at Palace than you can at World, I reckon... Put that in the pipe and smoke it.
Ortos
Lina told me that her intention is to work at FKK for one year to make money for school, and then retire from the FKK world (I think she started at FKK Palace around August 2005). So, she has a goal, and maybe this leads her to seem like a "processor". As for chemistry, it is true, and it also depends on what you want. I really like bbbj cim, and she delivers. Kissing is not as important to me, and so I don't mind that she doesn't really do dfk. She told me that she really likes anal, but I have not tried it with her. She has never rushed our sessions.
[QUOTE=Ortos]That's quite interesting! I can tell you that I have been to Palace alot over the past six months. Virtually everytime I've been, I've observed this Czech Lina working there --she seems to be always there! And every time I notice that she must have 15+ sessions per night! From my observations she is one of the biggest Processors I've ever encountered. I did have 1 session with her in Oct or Nov. It was, for me, a very sub-par session and there was absolutely no chemistry. She denied me any kind of intamacy at all, so YMMV does come into play. Interestingly, during my many visits subsequent to that sub-par session, she never, ever approaches me, as if she knows she just took my money and knows well I would never ever go to a room again. Thus she has written me off, just the way I've written her off...
Now, having said all that, I do completely accept that she might well be a great session for somebody else. Chemistry is what it's all about. Another example: Czech Linda, the big-breasted one, always gives me a fantastic session with real great intamacy, amazing DFK and BBBJ, etc. She really gets into my private little fantasies with her and lets me fullfil them in a great GFE atmosphere. But I know this same girl to other guys is can be a real Processor too. So I think some of these girls behave differently with different guys. It helps of course if you've seen them more than once...
It is such an interesting hobby, in't?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Mike De H]
Lena / Lina is an impatient woman. "Clicking" with her is not the issue. You don't have to be short with somebody like she is short with so many.
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What do you mean she is "an impatient woman" and "short"? I have been with my share of what I would call "impatient women" at FKKs; such women get upset after about 5-10 minutes if you have not come. Lina is definitely NOT in this category, at least not with me. Maybe she is more happy when she knows she is going to get the extra 50 Euros for cim?
Went to the Palace on 2/20. Much easier to get to than World or Oase. There were about 30 girls there, two-thirds of them blonde. If you like blondes, this is the place to go. They serve two buffets, at 6PM and 10 PM. Spread is very nice. They served some meat in sauce which I did not try but they did have smoked salmon, which was nice. I found the harem motif very nice and the club seemed classier than World or Oase.
The girls are more aggressive than at Oase and World, though some just sat and waited for men to approach them. After looking around for a while, I saw a blonde with a beautiful face seated in a type of alcove. I approached her and sat down. Her name was Lina, from Germany. We chatted and then went to a room. I was a little disappointed when she got up and I saw her ass, as it was kind of flabby and she didn’t really have good muscle tone. However, the session was ok.
The next girl I had was another Lina, a blonde from Prague. She had a pretty face and nice body but I should have realized what kind of service to expect from her when the first thing out of her mouth when I approached her was “do you want to go to a room?”. When we entered the room, she said that we only had 25 minutes, since we needed 5 minutes to clean the room (it actually takes about 30 seconds to do so). Instead of walking out, I proceeded, and at 20 minutes she starts complaining that I need to come now, which obviously had the reverse effect, so never did finish. Adequate sex with good-looking girl but not repeatable.
The next girl was another attractive blonde from Germany (don’t remember her name). She didn’t allow kissing and am not sure why I went with her, but the session was only adequate and uninspired.
The last girl was a 30+ Polish blonde from Stuttgart. I don’t usually go for girls past their mid-twenties but she was friendly and chatty. She filled me in on the standard procedure at Palace. Apparently, you are expected to finish in less than 20 minutes or they start to complain and tell you to hurry and finish. She also said that on Fridays and Saturdays there were a lot more women than on Mondays, and when there were conventions in town, there could be from 70-100 women at the club, and that the fee rose to 100 Euros for half an hour because of the hour-long wait for rooms. After 10-15 minutes of conversation, she popped the question, and I said yes. The session with her was the best of the night and approached World and Oase standards.
In short, Palace is a fuck factory with many good-looking women, especially blondes. The girls’ goal is to process as many men as possible during their shift. One pretty, skinny Romanian teen-ager was never alone for 5 minutes before she went into a room with some-one, except for when she was eating. She must have gone through at least ten men just in the 6 hours I was there. If you can accept quick, dispassionate sex with many good-looking women in a place that’s easily accessible, then Palace is okay. Otherwise, go to World or Oase.
[QUOTE=Mike De H]Well, technically no, its not extra, because with a COBJTC (covered opaque blow job to cum) she would not know you had come anyway, so how could she charge you, although the condom would be more expensive; any more than CFSICTC (covered full sex in **** to cum) cost more than CSIC. BBBJ (bareback blow job) also (without the TC) costs no extra, and if you were faking your orgasm in thise cisrumstances, again, how would she know you had cum (you could say you had a long night or a very effective vaasectomy). Of course, CASBCBJTCWSC covered anal sex before covered blow job to cum with same condom) would cost a lot more, but thats only because of the risk of shit geting in her mouth not because you CIS (came in sack) so to recap CBJTC is ok BBBJTC is not however CFSIC and CFSICTC are both the same price because you CIS not CIM and BBASCIA would be most expensive of all, but then again if she shits afterwards quickly then there is not a problem.
clear?[/QUOTE]Mike that was some of the funniest shit I ever read.
Anyone in Palace this Saturday night say hello to me with the Black Nike Strap sandals.
Cheers,
chodu
[QUOTE=Ortos]"
You sound so angry, so full of hostility towards Palace. Mark MY words: don't blame the club, blame the girl selection! You loose at tennis, don't blame the racket...
I know you have posted detailed accounts of your bad experiences at Palace. But I really think you have it all wrong. There are some really great girls there, but there are indeed a large number of "processors." But I got news for you: you can find processors at every club, at World and Oase too.
Ortos[/QUOTE]
Very angry, true.
I stick by my guns and am unlikely to visit very often. However I am a fair man, and if things change I will post that they have changed.
The problem is (and yes, there are good providers there) that everybody wants the good girls and peolpe are queuing all night for them, which is really sad.
I get great service out of a Ukranian girl there, so its not all bad, but the club is still very basic and the girl selection is very poor. Just open your eyes and look! Its all plastic tits and craggy faces.
I shall continue to post honestly about my experiences even though they may be contrary to other peoples opinions and appear to slag off peoples favourite clubs. This board is all about sharing information, good, bad, accurate or biased, and without variety and contrast it is useless.
I still blame the racket (in this case).
[QUOTE=Jimmy Boy 99]
The next girl I had was another Lina, a blonde from Prague. She had a pretty face and nice body but I should have realized what kind of service to expect from her when the first thing out of her mouth when I approached her was “do you want to go to a room?”. When we entered the room, she said that we only had 25 minutes, since we needed 5 minutes to clean the room (it actually takes about 30 seconds to do so). Instead of walking out, I proceeded, and at 20 minutes she starts complaining that I need to come now, which obviously had the reverse effect, so never did finish. Adequate sex with good-looking girl but not repeatable.
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Is there a second Czech "Lina" at The Palace? The one I have been talking about in my recent posts was not blonde, though she could have dyed her hair lately. The one I have been talking about was called Beatrice for her first few months at The Palace, had long light-brown hair, maybe 5'6" tall (~ 1.67 m), D or large C natural breasts.
[QUOTE=Viagrant]Is there a second Czech "Lina" at The Palace? The one I have been talking about in my recent posts was not blonde, though she could have dyed her hair lately. The one I have been talking about was called Beatrice for her first few months at The Palace, had long light-brown hair, maybe 5'6" tall (~ 1.67 m), D or large C natural breasts.[/QUOTE]
The Lena / Lina I am talking about is a Czech and is undoubtedly the same one. She is a brunette with lightened hair (up to blonde). I was not the only one complaining. Likewise I tried to interview her before going to the room but told me point blank she waas far too busy to sit down and talk, room or nothing. Since she was the only girl I remotely fancied I thought "fuck it" and went anyway, thinking I could manage the session.
Once in there she did everything she could to prevent sex taking place and in fact, penetrative sex did not happen, only BJ to finish.
The sheer number of custemers she goes through tells you the type of Girl she is.
I was not the only one showing obvious dissapointment with this girl.
"I get great service out of a Ukranian girl there, so its not all bad, but the club is still very basic and the girl selection is very poor. Just open your eyes and look! Its all plastic tits and craggy faces.
I shall continue to post honestly about my experiences even though they may be contrary to other peoples opinions and appear to slag off peoples favourite clubs. This board is all about sharing information, good, bad, accurate or biased, and without variety and contrast it is useless.
I still blame the racket (in this case)."
Hey Mike,
I do open my eyes every time I go to Palace, believe me. And I like what I see! And I tell you I ain't into plastic tits and craggy faces any more then you are. I don't know how many times you've been there, but I've been to Palace maybe twenty times. It remains very,very high on my list as a club, mainly becuase of the women there. So, as a frequent visitor, I definetely disagree with your assessment. I certainly think it is misleading to summarise the whole place as "very basic" and with " poor girl selection." Forgive me for saying so, but that is just plain wrong.
However, I certainly never thought you or anyone else was deliberately posting dis-honestly. I do believe everybody is entitled to an opinion and the freedom to express such. I don't mind if you disagree with my and about 100 other board members' opinions about the quality available at Palace. Nobody is attacking you for your opinions, just asking that you clarify that you are entirely pissed-off with the club personally because you had more than a few bum sessions. That is all. So I don't know why you are giving us this holier-than-thou lecture at the end of your post... By the way, how many times have you actually been there?
Hey, maybe you need to have a few sex sessions to get rid of all that built up tension and hostility? Meet you at Palace next weekdend, mate?
Viagrant: There is only one Czech Lina at Palace. You are correct, she used to go under the name Beatrice. She still has brown hair, the poster below was just not accurate in his hair colour description, I imagine. It is clear it is the same girl we are all talking about by the MO he describes. This is the way she is with alot of guests, esp. those who she sees as being foreign and new to the FKK game. She sounds like a real manipulater, giving that bullshit story about charging for time to clean the room. Any monger who believes this bullshit is being completely taken advantage of. I have to laugh at the balls of this, really. It is a good one, yet it exposes a type of attitude that one runs into in this business, an attitude one encounters perhaps more frequently
at Palace than at other clubs. However, as I was trying to say to Mike above, this is certainly not true of all the girls at Palace and any experienced monger can/should spot these girls a mile away and avoid them. If we tend to overlook the vibes in favour of superior looks and go for the optikfuck --and this Beatrice/Lina certainly has some attractive features-- then we should expect what we get.
[QUOTE=Ortos]" If we tend to overlook the vibes in favour of superior looks and go for the optikfuck --and this Beatrice/Lina certainly has some attractive features-- then we should expect what we get.[/QUOTE]
Its OK to laugh at her balls, and say we should expect what we get, but to me its dishonest, bad practice, and it needs stamping out. This is exactly what I am talking about. Management at Palace should have done something about this girl a long time ago.
Same with Sasha (Fred's Shame of Ukrane) who works there. Fred had a really foul session with her and got nowhere with management after a complaint. We timed her visits. the average was about 5 to ten minutes per guest. We even interviewed a couple of puters afterwards. Everyone totally pissed off and nobody complained. They realised it was worthless. She is still there.
I get bum sessions in more places than Palace, but I always know something can be done about it. Indeed, there are hundreds of posters in favour of Palace. Yes i am totally outnumbered, but the voices are growing and some of us wont be silent.
Call that holier-than-thou if you will, but I am standing up and being counted. Number of visits = 3. Unlikely to be 4 any time soon.
I always find the service levels in Palace way better in the day time. Many of my sessions at night have been rushed.
Of course the night shift women tend to be way better looking.
[quote=jimmy boy 99]in short, palace is a fuck factory with many good-looking women, especially blondes. the girls’ goal is to process as many men as possible during their shift. one pretty, skinny romanian teen-ager was never alone for 5 minutes before she went into a room with some-one, except for when she was eating. she must have gone through at least ten men just in the 6 hours i was there. if you can accept quick, dispassionate sex with many good-looking women in a place that’s easily accessible, then palace is okay.[/quote]my 5 cents to the provider discussion.
if jimmy means during night time, i couldn't agree more. luckily there is always the possibility to visit daytime. my own experiences is in line with mike de h's. a lot of girls works at maximum speed. to name a few polish girls that rush you to cum: monica, erica and silvia. they all seem to do minimum two guys per hour. chit chat inclusive. what i don't understand is how silvia can get so much praise from customers on the palace website? blonde erica (paris hilton kind of face) is a total rip-off. monica, silvia and others are ok on a rainy day. still, this guy won't fuck them again.
another source of bad treatment could be that i am a foreigner (like some other guys in the forum i suspect), and some girls are only too eager to take advantage of that. however, although i won't be visiting once a week, i will continue the quest for the perfect fuck at palace and other places. only not with these girls. unfortunately for them.
Mike, Ortos and y'all,
It is an argument that can go forever because it is so tainted by the last / worst / best etc. session one had. When naked in a room with a girl, you are in vulnerable position sort of say...naked. Kind of betrayal or an act that shows a total lack of empathy from the girl will leave a very sour taste in your mouth which is hard to overcome no matter how strong of a case you build with arguments of how great the club is. IMHO, Mike will probably only reconsider his view of the club if he experiences a couple of great sessions there without a sour one during the visit.
That beeing said, I had about 50 sessions last year pretty evenly distributed over the three big FRA clubs. If I were to go tommorrow, I would have a hard time deciding which club to honor with my visit as I find the difference in quality so little. Palace is lacking the outdoors, World can be utterly boring at times and Oase facilities has a bit of a hygenic problem (and of course the fucking strobe light), but I have not experienced any difference in the girls attitudes or work ethics based on which club they are working in.
As for the responsiveness of management towards complaints, I think Palace is not any more or less responsive than Oase. Based on reports, World seems to be the only club with a bit of a consistent record of taking complaints seriously. I remember reports going both ways at Oase and Palace, but I do not remember negative reports towards World in the complaints dept.
Chivaz
So, are any regulars or people who know the club well going to be there this Saturday?
Would be nice to be steered away from certain girls judging by what's been said in the last few threads about some of them.
18Jan - Went early in the afternoon one day. Interesting change of pace from evening visits. Night girls are prettier, but Day girls are less rushed. Stayed many hours, which helps explain the roster below.
Nicolletta, Romanian, very tall and waifishly thin, long curly bottle-blond hair. Very personable. Good kisser, BBBJ, cowgirl and anal. Would see again. Downside - has a grating voice like the annoying former girlfriend of Chandler's on the American TV sitcom "Friends."
Patricia, German girl with many tattoos. Very thin - looks sort of like a skinny tattooed Jenna Elfman or Sarah Jessica Parker. Had seen her at Palace many times, but never gone with her. Very friendly, very good service. Would see again.
Nadia, Moroccan from Dusseldorf?, Short girl, shoulder length black hair. Creamy white skin with no tattoos of piercings. Fantastic set of cans. Nice kisser, very good BBBJ. enthusiastic service. Couldn't cum though, as I didn't allow enough recovery time after Patricia. Will have to see again, but likely a repeater.
One of my favorites - Jenny from Kassel. She was excited because her birthday was coming up. She wanted to celebrate with something special. She suggested a 3some with Sydney, from Offenbach. I've described Jenny before, cute cheerleader type. Sydney was a bit "rougher." Tattoos, nice figure. She liked things a bit rougher - will have to see her alone sometime. She likes her tattoos because she enjoys the pain while getting them. I can envision some spankig fun times with her! Her English lacked though. As a pair, they were excellent, both very bi. And Jenny always gets me off with her sheer athleticism and skill. Girl can pump like a piston.
Finally, big-titted Czech Lina for a BBBJ. MAde her work at it almost full 30 minutes, until she finally complained. Then I apologized - it wasn't he fault as I'd already poked 5 gals that day. She wasn't happy.
17 Feb -
Maxime, German, sort of plain, but with a nice personality. DFK, but too much tongue. I really don't like my face cat-bathed. Good BBBJ and cowgirl. Liked being vigorously fingered. Could probably be fisted with enthusiasm. I was 3 fingers in thrusting knuckle deep hard and she would buck back into my hand. Maybe see again.
Bina, Sicilian living in Germany. Skinny, piercings, bottle blonde hair with extensions. We'd traded repartee over many visits, but I'd never taken her. Probably won't repeat. Not that skilled - couldn't make it over the goal line with her.
Finished with big-titted Czech Linda. Excellent BBBJTCWS, as always. I know there are those who discount Linda and Lina, but so long as you go into the room knowing what to expect they do offer excellent skills.
ADDED NOTE - will likely visit Palace either 3/7 or 3/8
I'm posting my visits to the proper sections of the forum.
Daniella, romainan, 22, blond, 5'7 and wears a white boots up to her knees. A guy who I met in the club and recommended her. She got friendly when I approached her and quickly started to get right on to business. We started with the normal introductions and off to the room. She gave a lenghty bbbj and some light kissing. Great technique on the bbbj and started to ride me cowgirl with the cover on., then on to doggie then busted my load. She would like to stay longer but she had to go home for the day. Gave her 50, then she starts show her puppy face and wanted more like another 50 but did not give in. She did not do anything extra. I asked how much for the extra service for her ass. She said that that would be an extra 50. I told her that I would like to see her later today which would be later that evening.
Later that day when I wanted to spend some time with her, she was with a gentleman drinking champagne pretty much the entire night and was not to spend some time with her.
Stephania, italian, 22, black/brown hair, 5'4, wears black boots.
She asked me earlier in the evening if I wanted her company. I told her later since I just got in and wanted to look around first. Fast forwarding a bit, I then called her over to my side, then she said now you want my company, I replied back if she does want to she can go back to her seat. Of course, got friendly afterwards and went with me. The rooms are booked and the ratio of men to women is 6:1. Bad odds for men. So we waited till a room was available. In the room she started explaining about her services. She told me would be 50 to start for regular sex and everything would be another 50 per extra. Told her to start with the regular and see for there. But keep asking for additional extras and would not stop talking. When she kept asking for extras I'm starting to lose my wood. She asked if there is a problem with my tool. I replied 'No', it was because you kept talking and I'm starting to lose the mood and I want sex not talk. In my head if I touch her, kiss her, fondle her that would be extra and I am having second thoughts to continuing the session, and I was ready to say that I should leave.
She was feeling a dissapointed at this point and saying that it was her job to have sex. Now she told me to relax and she went on giving me bbbj again and now she stopping talking about extras. Now she wants me to touch and play with her body so I would get in the mood. After that woody got up and started to get aroused. We started on CG, doggie, and mish. She was very vocal during the session and she definitely wants to be fucked hard and deep. I was on missionary for a bit and from the looks of it the she came. She loves to be complimented after sex or on her peformance, a definite repeat.
After the session we had some talk and went to the locker to gave her 50, she showed her puppy eyes and saying only fifty. I told her next time if I want extras. Kissed her lightly and spanked her on the ass as we parted.
On my following visit to this club, I've noticed that this girl was with a customers for a long, I think mostly it was an Italian group visiting the club and I guess they were patronizing thier fellow country woman.
Katya, polish, 22, blond, 5'8, wears black beads. She was making her rounds and visited the kino. She asked how I was doing and started commenting on the show on how that girl loves sex. And she wanted a threesome with the men in the kino. She sat right next to me and started rubbing my chest and I then rubbed hers as she fell asleep she said that she likes to be touched while sleeping. As she stood up just about to leave, she asked if I want to make sex with her I told her yes. She quickly looked for a room and started to work. Some light kissing, and started a long DATY, I had her until she came and screamed. She said that her pussy is sensitive from the licking. Now it was her turn to taste my polish sausage, she was light on the bbbj and she is wanted to be fucked. She rode me CG, RCG, doggie, mish until I finished. The entire session must have lasted just little over 30min. She were tired and satisfied and called me the sex machine. It was a great ego boost from her. She did not have a boyfriend for seven months, and I was a good subsitute until she finds one. She also commented that the she was horny and the sex was great and we would get a have a great night sleep. I later asked her later that evening for round two and we had another hot and sweaty sex again.
I asked her that If she would be in tomorrow and she said yes but she wasn't in the that day. I should have asked her if she would stay with at my hotel and started my day with good sex.
Valentina, 29, italian, brown hair, 5'1. She always pass me by asking why I was always relaxing. I told her that I have a headache, relaxing, jetlag, tired from sex. She did not believe me that I was tried of sex since she had not seen me with a girl. I guess that she was teased enough that I was looking at her and not having sex with her.
I told her to sitdown and talk for a bit. She told me that she was a stripper in Italy and sex was illegal there. She told me how she got started in the business. She was making money as a stripper but as much, and a friend told her about this place and decide to see she likes it. Apparently and the money was good working at the club.
We watched the girls danced and commented that one girl was dancing sensual and the other was more acrobatic. After the dance she asked if I want to have sex with her and I agreed. While waiting I asked her when she was a stripper did she do lapdances, she reply NO, that was reserved for the groom to be and it was mostly a striptease rather than a lapdance. As soon as we got to the room she started to working on me, she kept sucking and spitting on my tool, and if she did'nt stop I would have came in her mouth.
I told then that I want to fuck her pussy and quickly mounted my CG. To slow down the process, I want her doggie aka 'WOF-WOF'. She was getting all fours and guided it in and pumping it in at normal pace to enjoy and feel her wet pussy and turned her around to finish her mish. I love finish when her eyes are open looking at my eyes as I bust my load inside her.
When I finised, I asked her if likes to travel and see the US. I told her that no sex is involved unless she wants to have sex. I told her that I have room and we would sleeping unless she wants to. She agreed to contact me if she comes to the US. And later she said that she has a problem getting a boyfriend, mostly her fault because she is very jealous if her man is with women. She just gets crazy and cannot control herself and starts to be very possesive. I then told her that she should visit me in the US if she wants some time off.
When then went to the locker room and get her a 50 note and parted ways.
I've noticed that some girls in the Palace are not clock watchers and would want to spend some with you after work. And some of them wants a normal time outside of work.
Chantal, 24, German, blond. She was not very busy in the evening, and I don't usually go with german girl unless thay have something exotic about them. I actually felt to give her some pity sex. Since she hasn't gone with a lot of customers that day. So I'm sure she is very horny or she is not that good in bed. As soon had I said yes that I would go with her, her eyes brighten up it's either "I'm getting some sex now, or I'm getting 50 euro from this guy". In the room she proceded to go to give some deep kissing and a skillful bbbj. She would suck, slurp, and spit. If she doesn't stop she's going to end up with an extra 50 note. I told her to stop and I want some pussy, she turned around almost immediately and I thought that she wanted it bareback, there was a pause of 4 secs, then she pull a condom puts it in. And guided my cock on to het tight pussy. I can feel her pussy clamping on my cock as it goes in and out of her. And she was saying, Fuck me, fuck me! And fuck I did. Her face was turning red as she was getting fucked. I then turned her around on her back and fucked her again. Her eyes were open as I cock was going in and out of her pussy. As I blew my load she he was all flustered and she wanted me to look in eyes to say that was good sex.
I guess she was horny and wants to has sex and the session was good.
Checkmate,
Great Reports, man. Finally somebody who can remember details like names and physical descriptions! I think we all will benefit from your insights and experiences...
I went with Valentina too a few weeks ago. What a bundle of dynamite! Daniella is a well-known girl, who, in my opinion, used to be great, but just got too damned in-love with herself and can be a bit of a manipulater. Good job you did not give into her (and other girls') attempts to pry extra cash out of you by pouting like a puppy! We have to recongnise what's going on here, like you did. You seem to have handled it well...
Just one question --and please don't take this the wrong way: I cannot help wondering: If you are American, why do you seem to struggle sometimes when expressing things in the English language. I mean no ridicule here at all, just that sometimes reading your sentences sounds like it is Geoge W there speaking...
Once again, thanks for your fantastic reports!
Last night, at about 9:30, I had just finished a fantastic session with Czech Linda (when she is on, she is really on) , when a new girl arrived whose enhanced boobs were even bigger than Linda´s. She was attractive in an exotic way, long blond hair with almost goth black roots, rather short and thin, which only made the huge boobs more amazing. Almost like a Wendy Whoppers. By the time I returned, she was in a room and then I had to leave. But I will be back!! Does anyone know who she is and what is the word on her? Thanks in advance.
Was in fkft as annouced for one night (saturday). Visited Oase, Palace, and World which are usually my preference order. For the first night at Palace (6 to 8 pm), I unfortunately didn't find my favorite girl who was Tanya a beautiful large breasted girl from Kazakhstan but line up was still OK went with three girls. If anyone knows if she stills works there, please let me know. Line up was ok but no stunners though. went with one tall and very nice romanian. 1,75 m, Brown long hair, average breast (so they are not all bad after all). Great BJ and good sex (looks 7, perf 7,5).
After dinner, went to world. it was an absolute disaster, not a single girl above 5 in looks. stayed 45 mn and then retreated to OASE.
This club seems to always win it for me. Although not as good as Palace in terms of infrastructure there's usually always a gem or two. This time went 2 times with a brasilian girl with a great attitude. shes dark haired light colored skin and large breast. Great Lay. Looks 7,5 perf 8,5)
Also went with A small pamela anderson lookalike with great boobs. Nice girl, overall Ok experience but was lacking enthushiasm (Looks 8 perf 6).
Sorry don't remember the names.
Has anyone been to Artemis in Berlin?
Laetitia - Croat living in Offenbach. Very friendly and a pretty face, although she will never be slim and trim. Girl is big boned and meaty. Medium/short dark brown hair, blue eyes. Not fat, but "substantial." Gals packin' an azz. Very good kisser, although I probably won't partake of that aspect of here service again. Very good BBBJ, offered anal, and provided excellent rimming. Hence the future flyer on DFK! Not tats, no piercings, non smoker. Great personality and will repeat.
Daleela - French/Persian living in Koln. Stunningly beautiful. Figure like Dita von Teese, reminiscent of Ava Gardner. Phenomenal large natural breasts. Very friendly personality, and very very intelligent. Shared some excellent conversation about politics. No DFK, light kissing only w/o tongue (if she likes you), excellent BBBJ, DATY. Pussy a bit on the loose side, but it felt very hot and great. Does not offer anal. Will definitely repeat.
[QUOTE=Ortos]Checkmate,
Just one question --and please don't take this the wrong way: I cannot help wondering: If you are American, why do you seem to struggle sometimes when expressing things in the English language. I mean no ridicule here at all, just that sometimes reading your sentences sounds like it is Geoge W there speaking...
Once again, thanks for your fantastic reports![/QUOTE]None taken. We "Americans" don't have time to read or write. Is that o.k for you?
LOL!
It was a cold snowy night in Frankfurt. I was ready for the warmth of Palace. The last time I was here I went back to Oase and didnt really have a good time due to the stobes and crowds. It is a difficult place to relax.
Anastasia - Dark hair russian. Nice breasts. Played for quite a while in the keno with lots of BBBJ and fingering. This girl is one of the best kissers I have every met. She loved deep fingering and anal fingering. Did DATY for quite a while till she came - got VERY wet. We must have gone well over 30 minutes but she didnt say a word about extra euro. From there it was the usual doggy and mish. I really enjoyed her company. Wanted to go with her again but she left at 7.
Christina - I think from Germany. Very cute blond (it seems that there are lots of blonds around here). She wasnt into kissing but gave a decent BBBJ. The whole session was kinda blah.
Rebecca - Germany. Very cute with little tits. She pushed anal from the beginning but I am wasnt into it. She gave up after a lot of selling. She was not into DATY at first but did get into it after a bit. Kind of a blah session.
Koko - China. She is new. Her name is Japanese but she is Chinese. She kept to herself at the upper bar. I called her over to the couch to hang and play around. Thats how I judge whether to go with a girl. She was sweet and fun to talk with but wasnt to sensual. I took a chance and went with her. I was very glad I did. She was shy about DATY but warmed up alot to it. She had a very tight wet pussy. She only works weekends but will go with her again in a heartbeat. Take good care of her... she is sweet.
It was getting late and I wanted a last session and went with Kristina from Romania. She is not normally my type but she was just what the doctor ordered. She is funny and very into anything oral. Had a great time and was ready for bed.
I will be there March 23 during the day and March 27 in the PM if anyone wants to PM me.
[quote=deepvoid]it was a cold snowy night in frankfurt. i was ready for the warmth of palace. the last time i was here i went back to oase and didnt really have a good time due to the stobes and crowds. it is a difficult place to relax.
anastasia - dark hair russian. nice breasts. played for quite a while in the keno with lots of bbbj and fingering. this girl is one of the best kissers i have every met. she loved deep fingering and anal fingering. did daty for quite a while till she came - got very wet. we must have gone well over 30 minutes but she didnt say a word about extra euro. from there it was the usual doggy and mish. i really enjoyed her company. wanted to go with her again but she left at 7.
christina - i think from germany. very cute blond (it seems that there are lots of blonds around here). she wasnt into kissing but gave a decent bbbj. the whole session was kinda blah.
rebecca - germany. very cute with little tits. she pushed anal from the beginning but i am wasnt into it. she gave up after a lot of selling. she was not into daty at first but did get into it after a bit. kind of a blah session.
koko - china. she is new. her name is japanese but she is chinese. she kept to herself at the upper bar. i called her over to the couch to hang and play around. thats how i judge whether to go with a girl. she was sweet and fun to talk with but wasnt to sensual. i took a chance and went with her. i was very glad i did. she was shy about daty but warmed up alot to it. she had a very tight wet pussy. she only works weekends but will go with her again in a heartbeat. take good care of her... she is sweet.
it was getting late and i wanted a last session and went with kristina from romania. she is not normally my type but she was just what the doctor ordered. she is funny and very into anything oral. had a great time and was ready for bed.
i will be there march 23 during the day and march 27 in the pm if anyone wants to pm me.[/quote]
nice update dv. i'll be in house on saturday. wait until the sluts get a load of my "timber". palace is about to be dollarised!! the chinese girl peeks my interest. hopefully she wouldn't shun me. lol!
Has anyone seen Vicky or Elena there recently? Would love to see them on my next visit. Thanks.
Dollars, just a friendly meant suggestion.
When you want to comment no need to quote with full previous message...
The same one is already on the forum...
You can just take a part of it if you want to comment on a specific point.
You will agree that copy a 30 lines (or even 80 lines in your post Rio)
just to tell "great report"... is not bringing a lot.
QUOTE=Akibono]Has anyone seen Vicky or Elena there recently? Would love to see them on my next visit. Thanks.[/QUOTE]
No sign of Vicky last week or the week before, according to my buddy.
I miss her too, the little cutie.
beffen
[QUOTE=Akibono]Has anyone seen Vicky or Elena there recently? Would love to see them on my next visit. Thanks.[/QUOTE]
Vicky, the small Czech girl? I heard she wants to try a different club in NRW and will not come back that soon. She was very unhappy with her work at the Palace the last month, at least that's what she told me.
Hessen Bub
[QUOTE=Hessen Bub]Vicky, the small Czech girl? I heard she wants to try a different club in NRW and will not come back that soon. She was very unhappy with her work at the Palace the last month, at least that's what she told me.
Hessen Bub[/QUOTE]
Yes! Damn. She was one of my favorites. I wonder what made her unhappy? She always seemed like such a happy person.
[QUOTE=Akibono]Yes! Damn. She was one of my favorites. I wonder what made her unhappy? She always seemed like such a happy person.[/QUOTE]
She didn't make enough money. To many muslims, she said. They don't like her, she doesn't like them. ;-)
Hessen Bub
It is sad that muslims lack a respect of women, what is wrong with their religion do they really hate women or what?
[QUOTE=Blondofil]It is sad that muslims lack a respect of women, what is wrong with their religion do they really hate women or what?[/QUOTE]
One must separate a Muslim's religion with their culture. I think the separation of men and women in their society has created a certain hostility between them. Plus, I think culturally, they think women are inferior and manipulative. The west's concenpt of equal rights and free thought really [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] them off.
Remember, often anger and extreme shows of machismo is merely a cover for fear and an inferiority complex.
That is the truth, thanks for clearing things out.
It is sad that many girls think that way, but it is also true that more percentage of men from the background tend to treat women, especially those kind of working women (whether at FKKs or RLDs), poorly with less respect.
Girls I spoke to last time said that many men from that region often try to negotiate/pay less for more services, although there are set-prices for the most services. (I try to get the full value for the prices, instead).
Anyway, too bad Vicky is gone since I was hoping to meet the lady when I go back next month.
Regards,
Tweed
[QUOTE=Akibono]One must separate a Muslim's religion with their culture. I think the separation of men and women in their society has created a certain hostility between them. Plus, I think culturally, they think women are inferior and manipulative. The west's concenpt of equal rights and free thought really [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] them off.
Remember, often anger and extreme shows of machismo is merely a cover for fear and an inferiority complex.[/QUOTE]
Regarding Vicky it is more the fact that turkish/south european men do like bigger women better. Nothing to do with religion, muslim was just an expression for this group of men.
Hessen Bub
[quote=akibono]one must separate a muslim's (...) plus, i think culturally, they think women are inferior and manipulative. the west's concenpt of equal rights and free thought really [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] them off.
remember, often anger and extreme shows of machismo is merely a cover for fear and an inferiority complex.[/quote]
not to open an argument... but considering the last sentence...
when you apply this to recent (i don't remember now which one) us state changing back the law on abortion... meaning not even to be applied after a proven [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] !!!!
to any ec country this looks like a step back into middle age...
inquisition is not far...
and when traveling the us you see on cable some of the religion channels, you get really to see and listen what is not far from inquisition time...
religion freaks are dangerous wherever they are : muslim, jewish, evangelists,...
keep in mind that to most religious people our forum here looks like the devil's place ... :-)
Just got back from Palace. Got there around 5pm and didn't leave until 4am. My oh my, was I spent.
I did only 4 girls as this was my first trip and I was a bit unhappy on the selection of girls as first but things picked up really fast around 9pm. All in all it was as advertised. The Romanian Posse were at their best followed by the Dominican Republic Crew.
When I got there I was ushered into the club by a decent looking lady and went straight to the Sauna. As soon as I hit the bar, here comes a 35-40 yrs old looking German chick whom I quickly dismissed. After about 45 minutes I settled on Jennifer (AKA Ananda) from the DR. We talked for a good 45 minuted before we went into the VIP room by the pool for a crash course in BBBJ 101. We went into one of the rooms by the section with the swing chairs. She was a good fuck but I have had better from DR chicks in Madrid and Malaga. She later introduced me to her DR crew. They are a bit too skinny for my taste. They all told me that's how the white men like them. Oh well!
It took me another 2+ hours before deciding on another chick from Spain. Oh my, her big breast and fat juicy ass (that's how I like them) was all I could remember. Great BBBJ and I rate her a 7 in looks and 8 in bed. The rooms were full so I settled for some BBBJ in the VIP by the pool. For some reason I wasn't big on the T.V room by the buffet section. Paid 100 Euro for fuck and BBBJ CIM. She wanted another 50 for swallow which I quickly declined. Spit it out if you want, I barked.
Palace was packed at around 9pm to 11pm and all of a sudden it emptied out like a plague. From 12am to 3am the girls numbered 20+ (about 1/4th the total around 10pm). I got tired of drinking water and coffe so I decided to buy a bottle of Moet for 150 Euro and as soon as I sat down to enjoy my drink....SASHA asked if she could join me. I finally met one of the Romanian Mafia in person.
We talked and talked and I quickly realized that this girl had more brains than the other sluts I had spoken to all night. She even pointed out the girls in the club with supposedly "Good Pussy"...whatever!!
I wanted the Asian/mixed girl but she and another slim looking Romanian girl were the most busiest all night. Both of the girls barely spent 5-10 minutes before another guy would literally drag them back to the room. Sasha later told me that the Asian-mix chick was actually Turkish (who at that time was doing the belly dance on the podium by the main bar). She was a cutie but only the Spanish chick, another Asian girl I saw who was just as busy, and a Dominican girl, were the only girls with nice juicy fat asses that I saw all night. To each his own I guess.
Took Sasha for the final bang session and we went for 1 hour. I made sure I got my money's worth and she sure delivered. One of my best fuck this year. Told her I will choose her next time I return. I will also try my damnest for the Turkish chick too.
Summary: I was told by a lot of the girls that FKK World was no longer good and that a lot of them have now moved to work at Palace. I doubt it. The girls were pretty but I have had better. I would go back to Palace again but this time I'm going to smuggle in a bottle of Cognac. I will never endure such torture again sipping on sparkling water with lime or cup after cup of capaccinno (sp?).
Ps: Sasha told me one the reasons the girls were doing their best to avoid me was because they were afraid of big dicks (i.e, Black Dick). I noticed a few of the Czech Rep girls would never answer me. Well, from the bottle of Moet and the fucking I gave Sasha, I could barely leave the club before the "Romanian Mafia Crew" started asking me to take them to the room. Too late. It was around 3am and I had to leave to head back to the hotel and catch my 9am flight back to the US.
Would I try and experience FKK World? I don't know. I'm not into driving all over Frankfurt looking for pussy. Palace was enough for me and I would rarely do a two day trip in Frankfurt. One day was all that I needed. I stayed at the Arabella Sheraton in Lyoner Strause which I really liked. It's the 2nd stop by train from the Frankfurt airport (the station is called Niederrad and cost was 3.75 Euro) and the rooms were nice. It only cost $36/night. I spent more in FKK Palace than I did for my Air/Room and Transportation in Frankfurt.
My first visit to palace, arrived around 5pm. Got guidance from staff, then start enjoying facilities and atmosphere. First girl was a Lebanese come to me, and finally offer more service. Too early, so I refused politely. I leave her to take buffet then enjoying cinema. I left the cinema room when an indian looks gentleman bring big boobs Czech's Linda and starting licking each other there.
Reenter cinema when Linda bring the guy into the room. Met Russian Kristina/Christina who offer lesbo action with her cousin (I dont now her name). I dont like lesbo. Then she offer her cousin for straight. I refused politely. Jokingly, I said that I prefer her (Kristina). Seems like it made her cousin mad and said: "Are you as handsome as Brad Pitt? Why did you refused me? Am I not beautiful?", Really it was surprised me, so better I politely leave them immediately.
Enjoy smoking at the bar, met Romanian Olympia and starting conversation. Finally she started to bring me into vip room, but I preferred regular room. I said that we can have some talk near regular room while waiting in the queue, but she refused! Lucky me, later I read here some bad opinion about her.
I met Kristina again in the cinema room, and this time she offered multicolor sandwich (threesome with her and a black girl). I refused, then she offered a omelet. What is that? she explained, that I will be the egg to be beaten and mixed by them.. WOW! But I dont like it.
Back to the bar I took cola and met Russian Julia, then we moved together to room queue, and start DFK and sometimes simple fingering.
Almost 15 minutes, then got room and went to main course. Starting with BBBJ, she offer for cum in mouth. But I refused and go to straight. It's my big mistake because didn't ask for price first, because she asked 100E! Crazy, and I said that I only pay 50E for all she will do. Then she reduced to 70E. What should I do? Leave the room? At that time, it was my dick who decided, not my brain. So I agreed. Overall, her perfomance was nothing special. I just got feeling that her pussy is still tight, and has sensational constraction.
Finished with Julia, I take rest and reenjoy the facilities. Then met Czech's Simona (or Simone?), who looks lonely. After some useless conversation then she offered to go to room. So I didn't want to make mistake twice: ask the price. It's 50E. Then we moved to room queue. This time was longer, almost 20 minutes. While doing DFK I try to do fingering. She's already got wet before my finger touch it.
When I gave my fingers a rest, she took my finger and commented "you have beautiful fingers, baby.." and continued kissing it. I dont know what does mean, is it the polite way to ask a guy to stop fingering?
Overall, I like the way she treat me. Good hospitality and friendly. I thought additional 20E I gave to Julia should be given to her.
I back to hotel almost at 12pm, I think as a beginner at palace, what I've got was not too bad.
[QUOTE=Dollars] ...my first trip...
I spent more in FKK Palace than I did for my Air/Room and Transportation in Frankfurt.[/QUOTE]
Believe me, that's normal. Spend a week or more mongering in Germany and the cost of airfare, hotel & car will look like pocket change.
On 17.2., Emma, Romanian ex GT, Relax, was seen at the Palace.
Is she still in town?
[QUOTE=whitey2]Believe me, that's normal. Spend a week or more mongering in Germany and the cost of airfare, hotel & car will look like pocket change.[/QUOTE]Yep! Trust me, I wouldn't waste 1 week in Germany. I would not step foot in Frankfurt until I can get a cheap last minute package from Travelocity or Site59.com. The exchange rate is a killer but Frankfurt can be cheap if you know the ropes. The cab drivers were funny. A few tried to extort 30 Euro one-way fare from Konisberger Strausse to Lyoner Strausse (claim that there are no exits on the autobahn on the way back).
Guys,
Having business in francfort on friday, i have decide to go there on Thursday evening and spend some time at palace. I booked a room at Ibis Friedensbrucke.
2 questions ( I have RTF but did not find the answer:)
1) How to go to Ibis from Hauptbahnhof? is it walking distance? or a cab?
2) More important: You guys who are regular ( I have been to Palace once or twice only), can you recommend the name of a few girls ? What I am looking for is not necessarily the most stunning, I am more into good and friendly service, nothing odd, just a good unrushed 30 minutes with a nice girl. Any race, color, shape is OK as long as service is good. I hate arguing with a WG about this and that at the last minute.
Thanks, and I will of course report$.
Cheers
Although I am a veteran of Atlantis (sadly missed), Oase and World, I had never been to Palace so I thought the time had come to catch up. Visited twice last week, Monday and Saturday, circa 7 pm till midnight. First impressions were dire. The lady at the reception was very unfriendly and curt, and looking round quickly, there seemed on both occasions to be more men than women, and a pretty unsightly lot. The men were all short, Mediterranean types and the woman seemed to be chain-smoking. The facilities looked cramped and the bedrooms (of which there are a mere 14) were mostly in use with people queuing. There is no pool, just a medium size jacuzzi, and a rather smelly 'hammam' area.
My first encounter was with Lina from Prague, and that started off badly, with Lina trying to rush me into a room before I had properly looked at her. I asked if we could talk for a bit and she replied bluntly 'I don't like talking, I don't like cuddling, just sex'. But she is a good-looker so I agreed to go into a bedroom with her. Her attitude then changed, she became much more relaxed and we actually got on well and spent one hour together (100 euros).
The next one to catch my attention was Jenny, a German/Polish lady, medium build, quite friendly, and we had an average to average plus session of about 20 minutes (50 euros). Third (and the high point) was a German lady called Sandra, from Dusseldorf. Lovely, soft skin, good attitude, very pleasant BBBJ, 30-40 minutes, 50 euros.
The Saturday visit was ok, though the venue was nocticeably more crowded and people were waiting a long time for rooms. Had two sessions with a Slovakian girl called Tiffany, wearing nice denim boots. First in the cinema, then in the VIP room, where two other couples were doing it virtually under our noses. But that was nice, a leisurely screw with Tiffany while almost touching a sultry blonde who was performing acrobatics with a guy next to us. Nobody seems to mind if you stare at them, and of course they are free to stare at you.
Finally a superb young German, Jacqueline, only 20 or so she said, nice, friendly, the only problem was that we could not find a room and ended up in a kind of broom cupboard which did not have a bed so we did it standing up and eventually collapsed on the floor. Jacqueline is very attractive and was good, but I think I would have preferred to service her in a more comfortable location. She said she is from Frankfurt, only works Saturdays, seems to be more of a hobby than a job for her.
[QUOTE=Mind Snatcher]Finally a superb young German, Jacqueline, only 20 or so [/QUOTE]
I'm heading for Palace in a week or so. Do you mind describing Jacqueline more in detail? Since I plan to visit on Saturday, I will at least try to find her.
[QUOTE=Polar]I'm heading for Palace in a week or so. Do you mind describing Jacqueline more in detail? Since I plan to visit on Saturday, I will at least try to find her.[/QUOTE]
Jacqueline is fairly tall (5ft 10), slim but not excessively so, no tattoos or piercings, and last week was clad only in ankle-length white boots. She has shoulder-length straw-blonde hair, a roundish face, very attractive, seemed to spend time sitting at the far end of the jacuzzi. The receptionist may be able to say whether she's in and possibly point her out to you.
[QUOTE=Dreams]Guys,
Having business in francfort on friday, i have decide to go there on Thursday evening and spend some time at palace. I booked a room at Ibis Friedensbrucke.
2 questions ( I have RTF but did not find the answer:)
1) How to go to Ibis from Hauptbahnhof? is it walking distance? or a cab?
[/QUOTE]
I assume you picked that Ibis for business reasons? For convenience to The Palace, you should have picked the Ibis Frankfurt West, at Breitenbachstrasse 7.
Sorry, I am not sure of the best way from Hauptbahnhof to Ibis Friedensbrücke, but they look pretty near each other on the map.
V.
[QUOTE=Dollars] I got tired of drinking water and coffe so I decided to buy a bottle of Moet for 150 Euro
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I didn't know you could buy alcohol at The Palace. What else do they sell? Is it sold at the bar out by the jacuzzi?
V.
[QUOTE=Viagrant]I didn't know you could buy alcohol at The Palace. What else do they sell? Is it sold at the bar out by the jacuzzi?
V.[/QUOTE]
Yes, the last time I was there, there were bottles in the rooms. I presume you can buy those. 150E is quite a pop.
"Having business in francfort on friday, i have decide to go there on Thursday evening and spend some time at palace. I booked a room at Ibis Friedensbrucke.
2 questions ( I have RTF but did not find the answer
1) How to go to Ibis from Hauptbahnhof? is it walking distance? or a cab?"
The hotel you refer to is an Ibis Hotel within a 5 minute walk of the Hauptbahnhof. You walk out the station's exit door on the South side (i.e. the Excelsior Hotel side). Walk over to Baseler Str, past Baseler Platz, and onto Speicherstrasse. There is a sign post pointing to the hotel at this corner. It is an easy walk unless you have lots of baggage, in which case you might prefer to spring for a taxi...
Ortos
[QUOTE=Viagrant]I didn't know you could buy alcohol at The Palace. What else do they sell? Is it sold at the bar out by the jacuzzi?
V.[/QUOTE]V,
That's the only alcohol they sell (i.e., Champaigne). Trust me, I didn't care if it was 10,000 Euros. I needed a drink because I got tired of drinking water and coffee. Take my advise, sneak in a bottle and hide it in your locker. Every now and then you can get a glass of ice and coke and mix it when you head back to the locker.
[Quote]Vicky, the small Czech girl? I heard she wants to try a different club in NRW and will not come back that soon. She was very unhappy with her work at the Palace the last month, at least that's what she told me.[/Quote]Vicky who is now going under the name of Regi (Regina) is now at GT. She started on the 24/3.
Is is possible to purchase Viagra at the Palace? Or alternatively, can you recommend a place nearby (with directions) that will allow me to purchase the blue pill before I visit the ladies?
Hi,
I am an Norwegian man (33 years old) often in Frankfurt (in transit) on my way to work (worldwide). I have been to the FKK Palace several times, but always alone. I find it difficult to come in contact with other visitors (men) at the FKK. I have tried a treesome with two of the ladies at the FKK Palace, it was a very nice (full service), but I would like to try a FMM+. I have spoken with some of the girls regarding this and they are ok with it (one even offered to do a DP), but I have always been alone. And the girl will not co-ordinate a FMM(+). So if there is anybody that would like to join me at the FKK Palace please let me know. I will stay there on the 28. of March from 2100.
Best regards,
K. Olsen
[QUOTE=Dollars]V,
Take my advise, sneak in a bottle and hide it in your locker. Every now and then you can get a glass of ice and coke and mix it when you head back to the locker.[/QUOTE]
Dollars,
Just keep in mind that there are surveillance cameras in the lockerooms at most FKKs including, if I can remember correctly, at Palace. I wasn't sure how closely they were watching the cameras until a little fight broke out at Oase one night and security goons appeared, literally within seconds, from nowhere.
Anyway I agree with you about the beverages at Palace. Actually, I think many if not most customers would prefer to pay for access to a real restaurant with a full menu.
To me, it feels pretty silly to drop EU 500+ for an evening of uninhibited depravity during which you are only allowed to sip fake apple soda with two sad ice cubes.
[QUOTE=Wildturkey]Is is possible to purchase Viagra at the Palace? Or alternatively, can you recommend a place nearby (with directions) that will allow me to purchase the blue pill before I visit the ladies?[/QUOTE]
No. Better get that before you leave the States. In Mexico you can buy it without hassle from pharmacias, but not in Germany. There, you'll need a prescription from a doctor, unless things have changed rather recently.
[QUOTE=whitey2]No. Better get that before you leave the States. In Mexico you can buy it without hassle from pharmacias, but not in Germany. There, you'll need a prescription from a doctor, unless things have changed rather recently.[/QUOTE]
Hi- Whitey,
In Germany you need a feaking prescription to buy aspirin too believe it or not.
beffen
This is a public service anouncement to all of those who dislike driving in Germany and have problems finding their way via public transport, but still would like some of that FKK thing:
A 4* hotel just opened next door to Palace. It seems to be pretty decent. You can see for your self at: [url]http://www.flemings-hotels.com/frameset.php?area=hotels&site=frankfurt_boerse[/url]
I have also attached a picture which show you just how far it is from Palace.
Chivaz
[QUOTE=Chivaz]This is a public service anouncement to all of those who dislike driving in Germany and have problems finding their way via public transport, but still would like some of that FKK thing:
A 4* hotel just opened next door to Palace. It seems to be pretty decent. You can see for your self at: [url]http://www.flemings-hotels.com/frameset.php?area=hotels&site=frankfurt_boerse[/url]
I have also attached a picture which show you just how far it is from Palace.
Chivaz[/QUOTE]
Good gracious. It's next door. Where was this info when I needed it? I have book-marked the link. I can always sneak back and forth to my room to load up on the alcohol.