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Hola! Mi gusta HK!
I agree with TJ Bob.
This bar is now 3 stories high. Downstairs, buy a beer for $ 3 and generally its the best strip show in TJ. Lots of girls will allow touching for $ 1. Dance show with shaving cream/lesbian action two or three times a night.
Middle floor: Very clean brand new bathroom. Tables to hang and watch dancing below. Lap dance rooms ($ 20 for 2 songs - pretty frisky, they say).
Top floor: reserved for people paying $ 42 for 6 beers to share with a chica. Anyone do this and able to report on value?
Usual TJ warnings: count your change. Most waiters are honest, but not all. Video is going all the time, not sure if in table dance booths or not.
Always like this place to relax between sessions. Meseros haven't bothered me there anywhere near like the other Alley bars. Out of habit, I make sure I never have to give any mesero anything bigger than a ten dollar bill and I state to them what it is when I give it to them so they know beforehand I will be looking for correct change.
Nice to see HK added as a separate thread.
Country John
The Hong Kong Buffet was the best place that I've checked out in TJ. I've DATY with 5 or so girls from there a few times while they were doing there shaving creme thing on stage on thursday and friday night. Its a good place to get worked up before you grab one of those dead fuck street girls.
Anyone ever pay for that VIP room? I would like to know what that is about as well.
Cali
[QUOTE=Hobby Fan]Top floor: reserved for people paying $ 42 for 6 beers to share with a chica. Anyone do this and able to report on value? [/QUOTE]
I haven't found this to be the case. I have partied on several different days with different chicas without the bucket requirement. Maybe its like that on weekends?
HK is by far my favorite place to hang in the zona.
OK, now they have confused even me (their best customer) at HK. What's the deal now with the second floor? Do you have to buy a bucket or can anybody go and sit there. Seems like the second floor stuff moved to the third floor. Anybody got the 411? Is it worth it to go to the 2nd floor?
I generally hang out on the first floor and just enjoy the show. Anybody got any recent favorites at HK? Azul & Brittany are no more, so if anybody knows any high mileage girls for the booths, please post.
Watch out for all the waiters at HK. I don't trust them, and that red headed one especially.
I went to tj on 2/20 from about 7-10pm. There were only 2 real hotties at HK; one was Amy, I believe. She has a real thin fram but proportional t & a, long brownish blond hair. The other was Stefanie; black curly hair with a nice bod and smaller than avg boobies. They seemed to be pretty preoccupied with other guys so I just went for one of the girls near the police station. There are three to choose from; Renata, Irma, Alexandria, & Alma.
HK has been terrible the last 3 times I have been down. I could understand in Jan. girls were away but now it doesn't make sense. Even one of the waiters told me he didn't understand why the girls were so bad!
In terms of the second floor I think if you sit at the booths you have to buy a bucket. I know I walk around there but don't usually sit because there are always groups of people chilling anyway. Sometimes I go to check out the scene below but normally I go to take a [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] :) I have yet to walk to the third floor or go into the VIP room and if I have to pay extra I will pass, not worth it considering the girls.
[QUOTE=Blue Nose]
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Watch out for all the waiters at HK. I don't trust them, and that red headed one especially.[/QUOTE]
The red headed waiter is a theif and a liar. Dont know why they dont fire him they must get complaints. A mesero can only drive away business, guys only go there because of the girls. Probably a managers relative or friend.
I gotta agree with One Wing Low about the quality of girls at HK. Maybe certain days has better girls.
Chris H
The amazing part to me is that the girls are really below average and yet they are making money when I go, at least dancing and the idiots buying those buckets. Stupid ass guys just sitting upstairs paying 100's just to screw around with a couple chicks there. I don't even think those guys do anything other than hang out, although I have no idea what happens in the VIP area?
You are right about the difference between the street girls and HK, there are several girls I see right outside that are better looking than 90% of the HK girls. It is a fun place to relax because of the seating but if another strip club opened up similar to this I wouldn't be going back because I know the quality of ladies would be far better. CC should do this since it has the floor and less clients do to AB. Has anyone been to the other strip clubs near HK? Are there any decent ones that don't rip you off?
I was thinking about heading down tomorrow night, Thursday, anyone want to meet up and have a beer? Contact me if you do but otherwise take care!
There's really only 2 Meseros that I trust in the 8 years I've been going there..
Roberto (currently on vacation.. back in about a week, works nights), and Chino (also a night worker). I've known Roberto for about 8 years, and the guy ALWAYS (even now) shows me the money I give him so we're both very clear on the amount.. is NEVER pushy on drinks, and is always very gracious and attentive. Chino is much the same. Neither of them try to force chicas on me, and they NEVER ask if I want to buy anyone else a drink.
I used to like Juan (Cholloman) too, but lately he's become really pushy on buying him drinks and the damn photos (which I hate).
Had my best time at HK yet Thurs. Best looking girls that I have ever seen there, which is not saying much because I usually think the most of their girls are generally unattractive.
Saw the best and the worst shaving cream shows ever as well. At HK two girls were getting down very nicely. They were both licking each others tits and pussies for real, (I can’t understand how they can stand the shaving cream in their mouths). Both allowed nice groping upstairs and downstairs for a buck. They were pulling guys in and getting them covered in shaving cream.
The worst was two guys, (no girls) on the Miami dance floor in shaving cream (partially or fully nude, I didn’t want to know). WTF?
[QUOTE=Lascivious]Had my best time at HK yet Thurs. Best looking girls that I have ever seen there, which is not saying much because I usually think the most of their girls are generally unattractive.
Saw the best and the worst shaving cream shows ever as well. At HK two girls were getting down very nicely. They were both licking each others tits and pussies for real, (I can’t understand how they can stand the shaving cream in their mouths). Both allowed nice groping upstairs and downstairs for a buck. They were pulling guys in and getting them covered in shaving cream.
The worst was two guys, (no girls) on the Miami dance floor in shaving cream (partially or fully nude, I didn’t want to know). WTF?[/QUOTE]
Yeah I got there around midnight and when I walked in I checked out Miami to see what was up and there were two guys, naked with shaving cream, dancing on the floor. It was kind of funny and they were making a mess of the place.
I will admit that the talent level was a little better this time around but nothing to go nuts over. I got a lap dance from this blonde girl, can't recall her name, and man she sucked! It was just above a dance in an American club so I was kind of pissed about that. I ended up taking one of the girls I see often doing the g/g shows and she was okay. She did give a good bbbj but otherwise banging her wasn't that great and she didnt want to do much.
[QUOTE=Blue Nose]OK, now they have confused even me (their best customer) at HK. What's the deal now with the second floor? Do you have to buy a bucket or can anybody go and sit there. Seems like the second floor stuff moved to the third floor. Anybody got the 411? Is it worth it to go to the 2nd floor?
I generally hang out on the first floor and just enjoy the show. Anybody got any recent favorites at HK? Azul & Brittany are no more, so if anybody knows any high mileage girls for the booths, please post.
Watch out for all the waiters at HK. I don't trust them, and that red headed one especially.[/QUOTE]
Hey man, I thought you were in Guadalajara??
Second floor usually comes with a bucket. (Privados anyway.) The last time I was there I took Azul the Amazon up for a decent BBBJ. I sat with her many times when I was seeing Salma and in a moment of weakness, took Azul up. She is apparently married now and not working. (Temporarily I am sure.)
Seen Salma lately? Trip report on Guadalajara? PM me.
Country John
[u]Redesigned[/u]
For those who have not been to Hong Kong recently, it has been redesigned upstairs, incorporating a third floor and redesigned second floor. I stopped by on Sunday, March 5th to have a look around.
Pedro, a gray-haired waiter with glasses that has served me several times before, was kind enough to show me around as it wasn't especially busy. He said he has worked here about four years. Today, as in the past, he seemed like a good guy and speaks English well. I ordered an agua mineral and took a seat on the third floor. You can seat anywhere you want, there are no rules. Of course you can't take a private room without buying a table dance, but otherwise it's wide open seating.
[u]Third Floor[/u]
Everything on the third floor is brand, spanking new and the design motif is kind of deco, moderne and looks sharp.
The private table dance booths have moved up here and line the far wall toward the Miami side. There are two kinds of private rooms, four larger ones have a table to hold a bucket of beers or drinks with an extra wide bench seat easily accommodating two. There are about eight smaller private rooms which lack the table and provide cramped accommodations for two. The doors of all are frosted glass. I only saw one monger getting a table dance inside one of the smaller rooms.
New booths line the balcony edge of the third floor and look down on the second floor balcony booths and then down to the first floor. The third floor wisely uses a series of balcony rails to make it almost impossible for a drunk monger to take a head dive. There are three new flat-panel televisions on the third floor and an additional alcove booth that would hold 6-8 people.
There were only a few folks up here, including a man who must have been 350-400 pounds. His lady of choice was an ample 180 pounds, but looked small compared to him. While parts of the first floor are visible from the third, it's really too far up to enjoy watching anything down there. So, besides the table dances booths, the third floor is a place to huddle with your gal away from the chaos of the lower floors.
[u]Second Floor[/u]
The second floor has the men's baño at one end and a small bar at the other end. There are no private booths on the second floor, they were removed to make room for more seating. There is a small, center stripper stage, nobody was on it this Sunday afternoon. Some of the seating on the second floor is new and some is recycled, namely those booths with the u-shaped tables which allow a dancer to stand in the middle. The second floor was completely full.
It looks like the hot place to sit is up here along the balcony which provides an excellent view down to first floor main stage and the girls dancing on the bar.
[u]The Girls[/u]
Looking around at the girls, I would have to repeat, like some recent posts, that the selection was poor. Most I saw were thin, ordinary looking women or even below average. Several had tramp stamps above their asses. Many of the girls outside Hong Kong, Miami, and Cascades would easily grade much higher than these. On the other hand, it was a Sunday afternoon, certainly not prime time.
Mike
p.s. I looked around three different times on Sunday and didn't see Salma in Miami or Hong Kong.
Confirm that nothing but pig uglies here.
Saw the steps with a sign saying $10.
Does that mean it costs $10 just to go up?
No face and no figures here on 3/19.
I too feel as though most of the HK girls are not very hot. Some are a step above pig ugly though. It's good to know that hotties are just a few short steps away right outside the door.
Good to hear that there are some lookers at the ol' HK. A solid ten? That is surprising. She probably only dances. How much can they make there if they don’t do the P 4 P?
[QUOTE=Lascivious]Good to hear that there are some lookers at the ol' HK. A solid ten? That is surprising. She probably only dances. How much can they make there if they don’t do the P 4 P?[/QUOTE]
First, unless some miracle happened I can't imagine a "10" was at HK recently. I know all of us have different tastes but even the guys I was hanging out with last time, 3 of them, would agree there weren't any girls close to that and it was on a Saturday night. Actually CC probably had the best looking girls for some reason and even AB was terrible but most of the hotties were probably getting lubed up for their 15 min. romp sessions.
You would be surpised at how much some of those girls make just hanging out in HK! I have no freaking idea why some guys sit around buying drinks all night long for these girls, especially the ones you know have lame attitudes. They also buy the photos, roses, stuffed animals, etc... most of these guys seem to be Asian, well at least the ones I see, but I am sure there are all types. Anyway if the girl averages just 40 an hour and works 8 hours that is a good chunk of change for doing nothing, I mean no sex and usually not much touching either because they are mean lol.
10? Maybe not.. but there are some very attractive girls that work at HK..
[QUOTE=Ceefo]10? Maybe not.. but there are some very attractive girls that work at HK..[/QUOTE]
I was in HK over the weekend, and it looks like they have had close to 100% turnover with the girls in the past 4-5 weeks. This was a good thing, because last time I was down, while I still had a great time, there was a noticeable lack of talent. Talent level seems to have picked up recently, and here is one gringo who hopes it stays that way for a while.
Blue Nose
Went last night and noticed 2-3 new girls but others were all the same from the past couple of months really. I sat with one of the new girls I mentioned, can't recall her name, but I will get it the next time I go down because she is super lame. She is friends with another complete biatch who is one the more uglier girls there but thinks she is perfect so obviously she has ruined this chica already. I got suckered into taking a polaroid so I will post her picture once I get my scanner working. I will say that the only thing wrong with this girl was she had about 8 extra pounds on her stomach and her ass was a little small, otherwise she would be as close to a 10 as I had seen. Perfect face, skin, and tits but I have warned you about the 1 for an attitude :)
So, I was in TJ on Sunday, April 30th, and was on an excursion with a favorite street girl. We went to a restaurant, [i]La Espadaña[/i] (Zona Rio: Sánchez Taboada Blvd. 10813), for lunch. The food was ordinary fare, I had chicken enchiladas with mole sauce that I wouldn't recommend.
Afterwards, we taxied back to Centro and were strolling down Primera when I had a crazy suggestion for my street girl friend. Let's go to Hong Kong Bar! She was tickled with the suggestion and readily agreed, but thought they would not allow her to enter. I told her not to worry. She works on Constitución and uses Hotel Irma and, of course, she has never stepped inside any of these bars, but has heard many stories. And previously she worked just two doors down at Hotel Venecia. Now, understand that she is not dressed like a street girl at all. She is dressed very conservatively with light makeup and better than average casual clothes. In short, she is attractive and presentable.
I start to enter Hong Kong Bar with her by the hand behind me and the masero standing at the door stops her and asks for her identification. She hands him her "working girl" medical ID and he looks it over a bit confused, flips it over a couple times looking for an age. There is none, he shrugs, says okay, and we enter! I didn't want to attract a lot of attention, so I brought her up to the second floor and took a seat along the rail overlooking the bar downstairs. Behind us is the small second floor stage with a couple girls dancing on it. Then a stripper walks down from the third floor and right past us, wearing nothing but a g-string on the bottom on a smile on the top! My street girl friend's eyes pop open in disbelief. Down below a topless girl is dancing on the bar.
A masero stops by and we order a couple of Bohemia's. My gal is wide-eyed and amazed trying to take in everything that's happening all over. Looking down to the first floor, a gal is showering in front of everyone in the clear, plastic shower cage. Girls are walking all over and one of the most obvious deficiencies hits her, there are a lot of ordinary and even ugly girls here in Hong Kong! She is really surprised. Her expectation was that it would be filled with beauties. The beers arrive and we both were ready for some Bohemia. We just sat there and enjoyed the general chaos. It was Sunday at about 4:30 p.m.
Then I found we were in for a special treat! The girls dancing on the small stage next to us on the second floor were handed a large can of shaving cream! Five minutes later, covered in cream, they dispensed with all their remaining clothes including their bikini bottoms and were humping each other shamelessly. Guys were inserting fingers for a dollar. It was quite a show, right up close. After a bit they rinsed off by pouring beer all over themselves.
I was ready to leave, wanting to be alone with my gal, but wanted to show her the third floor. I grabbed her hand and we walked upstairs and I showed her the private booths used for table dances. There was only one couple up there at the time. We went down the back stairs down to the first floor. Then we cut through to Miami Club so she could see all the gorditas lined up waiting for a dollar dance. We went out to the street laughing all the way to Hotel Mini where we did our own private dance. She was all giggles and amorous after our little adventure.
At the h/k the talent wasn't great, but wasn't bad either. The one girl I wanted to do was occupied with a customer for over an hour. I was ready to call it a night and head home. As I was approaching the steps to go down-stairs a tall blond was coming down from the office. She didn't look bad so I asked her if she wanted a drink.
She said yes and had a beer. She goes by two names, one is Alexa, the other, I can't remember. She is tall about 5'9", slim and is learning English. Actually her English is pretty decent. After the beer we head over to Cascadas. As we are walking up the stairs she asked, you do know the price. I said yes, $60. She then said she doesn't go up for less than $80. After a bit, I told her $700 pesos or we can end it here.
She agreed and I'am thinking, this might be bad. Anyways we get into the room and I try kissing her, she turns her head and again I'am thinking wrong choice. To lighten up things I asked her if she wanted a massage. She said yes. Boy, good thing I switched tactics on her. After the massage she gave me a kiss and after that, the small kiss became dfk. Maybe it won't be so bad.
After making out a bit, she gave me a cbj, not my favorite, but not bad. She then rode me cg, then to doggie for the finnish. So with her, it wasn't gfe, but it was better than average.
Q
I went down to Hong Kong about 3 weeks ago and I did my normal routine. Find a girl who is standing around ask her her for a dance. The first girl I chose was real cute but I don't remember her name. She took off her top and moved her panties to the side and started to grind on me while I was rubbing her wet ass pussy. She then pulls out my dick and starts a HJ. I motion for her to suck and she does and it was about an 8. After I busted in her mouth she left. Damage 20 dollars.
I did this same routine with about 3 other girls. 20 dollars a pop. I never pay for the hotel. The guy I went with actually had sex with a girl in the botths for 20 dollars.
Good Luck
I need some names of the dancers if possible. I too made it happen about 4 months ago but bought 3 songs for $30 ($10 a song) and talked her into BBBJ but cost me an extra $60. Plus she started with the BBBJ halfway thru the songs. So I only ended up with 4-5min of BBBJ with no finish. $90 no finish but some naughty fun that was worth it for me. BBBJ ius a rarity in tj from my mongering experience.
I should of took her to a room for relaxed BBBJ session. In the booth they are paranoid looking at frosted glass door every 30secs to see if someone is standing outside ready to bust them.
I too forgot the name of my BBBJ hk girl. ; )
Pics in the booth can be had with much paranoia especially with a flash. Very dark in booths.
I need a SW that does BBBJCIM. Any ideas?
Many of the HK girls give BBBJ in the private rooms, but they don't finish you off. Rather, they'll keep leading you on in paying for more "lap dances." So, stop getting played by these *****s and just go fvck them silly in the rooms instead.
But I am looking for BBBJTC. I have been told oh yeah no problem only to go in room and they pull out condom.
Then when you leave upset they will give you back $40 of your $60 and act like they don't know what you are talking about. Loose $12 for room to boot.
Yeah yeah pay last will I ever learn?
[QUOTE=Member #3097]I went down to Hong Kong about 3 weeks ago and I did my normal routine. Find a girl who is standing around ask her her for a dance. The first girl I chose was real cute but I don't remember her name. She took off her top and moved her panties to the side and started to grind on me while I was rubbing her wet ass pussy. She then pulls out my dick and starts a HJ. I motion for her to suck and she does and it was about an 8. After I busted in her mouth she left. Damage 20 dollars.
I did this same routine with about 3 other girls. 20 dollars a pop. I never pay for the hotel. The guy I went with actually had sex with a girl in the botths for 20 dollars.
Good Luck[/QUOTE]Is everybody wrong here?
I Never found such luck, can't find any TJ latinas that know how to suck dick, they're lousy doing BJ, save your money, CIM in TJ for 20 bucks for me is hard to believe, you must look like Brad Pit, or you just getting the ugly ones to do it, please NO OFFENSE to you, but no matter how nice this girls are, they're really worry for STD, not even a facial is available in TJ from a good looking one, I did get a few c on tits, and that's about it, so if you please can explain to the rest of us, what it takes to find a "cute" girl to CIM for only 20, I'm willing to pay 40, please share some helpfull info, most street girls don't do it, forget about AB, don't waste your time, Honk kong girls are allways playing the game to get more money from you and they don't deliver as promised.
BBBJ, and bareback services in general are prevalent all over TJ. Many times without paying a premium, but often with a small premium. The problem most mongers have is in the asking. Spanish does help, but is not required.
I have received BBBJ from a majority of the girls I have taken out of HK, and occassionally including BBBJCIM. I don't do uglies. I prefer spinner morenas, with nice asses.
$90 for a 4-5 BBBJ is really not worth. You should have taken her to the room if you are willing to pay that kind of money.
[QUOTE=Member #3097]I went down to Hong Kong about 3 weeks ago and I did my normal routine. Find a girl who is standing around ask her her for a dance. The first girl I chose was real cute but I don't remember her name. She took off her top and moved her panties to the side and started to grind on me while I was rubbing her wet ass pussy. She then pulls out my dick and starts a HJ. I motion for her to suck and she does and it was about an 8. After I busted in her mouth she left. Damage 20 dollars.
I did this same routine with about 3 other girls. 20 dollars a pop. I never pay for the hotel. The guy I went with actually had sex with a girl in the botths for 20 dollars.
Good Luck[/QUOTE]
$20 total would mean you had her for 6 minutes (2 songs). And in that 6 minutes she had time to take off her top, grind on you, move her panties to the side, give you a HJ, then give you a BBBJCIM. You must cum really fast.
While this type of service is possible in HK, it is most likely daytime and during the week when there are few clients. You would be suprised with you can get away with when you cum really quickly.
[QUOTE=Bad4URHeart]$20 total would mean you had her for 6 minutes (2 songs). And in that 6 minutes she had time to take off her top, grind on you, move her panties to the side, give you a HJ, then give you a BBBJCIM. You must cum really fast.
While this type of service is possible in HK, it is most likely daytime and during the week when there are few clients. You would be suprised with you can get away with when you cum really quickly.[/QUOTE]I just went on my 2nd trip to Tj yesterday; I would have to agree that daytime is a great time to get good service.
I ended it hitting it off with one of the girls there who spoke good english (my spanish is almost non-existant), went up to the room next door, and then got a CBJ is one of the booths later. She didn't seem to mind about the time, though. We went up during one song, and were in there for more than two. It was $20 to the house and $20 to the girl. I didn't find that a total of $20 was even a possibility.
I know, I probably paid too much, but I didn't want to haggle. This Chica ended up bascially spending the afternoon and evening with me. After she got off work, we went to one of the Mexican cafe's a block or so away and had dinner. I paid for both of us, but didn't mind, since we were laughing and having fun.
She said she had to get her car, and I asked her to give me a ride to the border. We walked to the pay-lot where she parks, and one of the guys told her that she had a flat tire. He ended up having one of those plug in air compressors that works from a car cigarette lighter plugs, so he got a little air into her tire so that she could drive it to the tire repair shop. I tipped him a couple of bucks for helping her out.
At this point, I was a little concerned, since I don't speak spanish, and we're driving blocks away from the Zona. At this point I thought I could trust her, and it ended up being ok. She had the tire changed, (she paid), and then we headed for the border.
She kept joking, "do you know this place?", and I kept replying, "are you sure you're taking me to the border; now don't let the bandidos get me!" It was funny; at one point she said, "no, we're going to my house!"
I think this was a great trip, because I got to 'meet' someone, and have fun, and also get a little of the personal side of the Chica. At dinner, she was showing me photos of her daughter, talking about her family, etc.
I've mongered in four countries now, and this was the best experience out of 100s of them.
anyway, just wanted to share. I know I probably spent too much money, with the fischas, room, dinner, etc., but it was a complete hoot!
(plus, she taught be a little conversational spanish...)
I'm not a regular poster, but i just wanted to say thanks to this board for all the intel. This experience was possible because of what I've learned here.
Dylan
[b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread.[/blue]
Can't understand those who keep on asking for "some names" of girls who will give head in the booths or even full service ... after many years in TJ some of the things I have learned are:
1. Anonomity is better than names ... let's you remember you're there to recieve a service ... not foster relationships
2. To get extras - ASK FOR THEM - if they say no ... move on to the next one
3. Enjoy yourself but not too much ... too much liquor has turned a monger looking for fun into the true "ugly American" - and that's what drives prices up
4. Finally, the girls are providers who are entitled to some respect ... don't carry your deviate behavior into TJ (listening Hizark?)
[QUOTE=Bad4URHeart]$20 total would mean you had her for 6 minutes (2 songs). And in that 6 minutes she had time to take off her top, grind on you, move her panties to the side, give you a HJ, then give you a BBBJCIM. You must cum really fast.
While this type of service is possible in HK, it is most likely daytime and during the week when there are few clients. You would be suprised with you can get away with when you cum really quickly.[/QUOTE]I never said I was up there for 6 minutes. I was actually up there for 30. But you are wait the daytime during the week is your best bet. And no I don't cum fast. Good luck.
Lets see, HK.
Been going to HK for a good while now. This my observation from the whole zona and I have to say HK has the sluttiest women. I am not saying the biggest putas but the biggest sluts.
You gotta love the lil bb or covered action back in the private dance booths. A $20 tip and BJ's and/or sex is provided. Sadly I can't really cum quick unless it's BB action.
Another option is buying a bucket of 6 beers for $42 plus a couple bucks tip... for the chica and going in the private rooms, you and her alone, door closed until she finishes her beers. If you know the chica and she is slutty slutty you are almost guarenteed some sort of action in there be it a BJ or sex. Gone in here a couple times, it's not bad to just kick back for 30-60 minutes.
New manager in HK, been there for around 2 weeks now.
Heard from my chica friend a couple days ago that alot of the big girl (gorditas, chubbies, whatever you call them) were told that they could work at the other joint bars, Miami, Tropical or Chavelas but not in HK.
Did see less chubbies last time I was there. Could be the start of something great In my opinion.
I must say that I approached this trip to TJ with mixed emotions. Being a resourceful man I had researched extensively my targets, reviewed the videos and was curiousas to what miught occur.
I had read decent things abvout the HK Bar and felt this was a good place to begin so Monday afternoon I walked all around TJ until I found the spot, "Zona Norte" wriiten at the top of a taller building was the final clue.
Destination found, in I go, 2 for 1 beers good start. 4 mostly nude ladies dancing in the bar, getting better. First problem to the man who said "no fat chicks allowed" I would NOT like to meet what you think is a fat chick. The women in here were terrible but I was new and one must avoid being judgemental, the Mexican woman are after all a little bigger than most and clearly thicker than my favorite flavour. SO I suck it up.
I get the tour from # 28 a likeable enough young waiter and I end up upstairs with my beers and a tequila. I sit far enough from the 2 fat women dyking it up on the stage all covered in shaving cream, I mean honestly I would not fuck either of them on a bet on fat chick night in College. There are so many unattractive women in there I can't believe it and based on my research this is "the place to be"? YIKES.
Finaly a vision appears don below, young attractive not FAT, I have her brought to my table, she is Maie, Marissa, something like that, clearly the most attractive woman in the place in my opinion, young dark, smooth hippy, streaked hair, pretty girl, limited english, big gold necklace with a ST Christopher medal I am decribing her in details fo rgood reason, stay alert. My tout #28 says a drink for the girl, of course I am "generous". She gets a drink, real tequila and soda, she slams it! Orders another, ok 1 more por favour after all they are 11 dollars each. My tout brings the second in 2 glasses and combines the 2 and sets them down, 11 dollars please.
Marissa tastes it, frowns and spews venom in Spanish to # 28 he fiengs ignorance "what No tequila, how could that be", the bar they must have made a mistake. She says, "bring me a Damn tequila right now or I will have your small balls set on my ears" or words to that effect, it was spanish but the point was pretty clear, he complies confused because after all is not the point to appear to be drinking Tequila for 11 dollars a pop and then not actually dirnking it! She shows me it is Tequila, it is and slams it, 2 down 5 minutes maybe and she orders another, # 28 looks at me eyebrows raised, another, ok 1 more but this is getting riduculous but hey I was on a mission, out to TOFTT so to speak, got to start somewhere right.
Marissa turns her attentions to me, she is cute, cleary the bell of the ball, and I look forward to fucking her upstairs and now that she had had 3 Tequilas (confirmed) in 8 minutes this could be alot of fun. An erection announces itself and Marissa is indeed a decent seductress not doing very much while seasoned participant around me are buring their middle fingers in fat snatches for a dollar. I explore the goods a little and get me hand slapped, What the fuck!
Another Tequila for the lady, si, in for a penny in for a pound after all what goes around comes around and surely this young lady is planning an event for me that will leave me wondering (at the time I had no idea how phrophetic that was), this continues and after 6!! I say hold the phone I am out about 70 US I know laugh your asses off, I have earned it, I know the riducule I deserve and it gets worse before it gets better and it never really gets better or even good. I complain 6 to many she says "relax, I take care of you", I say lets go upstairs, she says relax I take care of you.
Well now it is like a scene from a bad mopvie that your girlfriend talked you into watching, you realize the movie has been going on for 45 minutes, it is a terrible movie, you know what is going to happen but you just need to be sure so that your soul can sleep that night, so I continue through Tequilas, 7-11! Si ELEVEN real Tequilas and I am out TO MUCH! The movie continues and I know trhat there must be a full, uncovered, anal scene with BBBJTCIM in there somewhere because this chick, Marissa must be hammered. Of course hammered *****s can go 2 ways as Ihave learned in Thailand, but Iam optimistic, after all this is my first planned fucking of the shceduled 3.
After 11 I realize that this movie is just not going to improve and with all of the fat chicks shaking their fat asses int he place I am not sure I could get it up any ways and the occasional stroking of my cock has even ceased, it was now a scene out of "Married with Children, hot chick, paying the bills, no sex.
Finally no more, WHAT, What do you mean, I mean, you fucking thieves no more. I am sure that they will have photo of me in there as the prized pig that got its wallet poked. They probably has a poll going as to where this ride would end, well I am not sure who the lucky soul was but it ended at 11 or maybe 12. And I was sober, I know keep laughing funny boy.
So bottom line, I got fucked with no risk of STD, I said to # 28 I want to talk to the Manager he immediately loses any ability to communicate in English and shrugs his shoulders, even he is amazes at the con job he witnessed and at her capicity to drink she had 11 or 12 Tequilas all confirmed in 1 hour maybe 75 minutes and she insisted the lady drinks be real.
I say no problem I wil file a report to the WSG aurthorities.
So in closing BOYS, I made all of the mistakes (and by boys I mean not the regulars, to all newbies) you can see them above, I spent including my drinks and tips 140 - 150 US for nothing.
No one wanted to make good on that, so be forewarned. The HK bar is a rip joint. In a positive note the fat chicks seemed to enjoy being finger banged for 1 dollar but there were many fat chicks, ugh! Again being positive there were some real cuties outside holding up the walls and that is where I will invest tomorrow afternoon.
Yes my Adventure continues, and in goodnews I met 2 good local guys and 1 speaks excellent english and they agree to protect me better in the future, they sat across from me from Tequilas 5 - 11 or 12 and smiled at the stupido gringo so off to Adelitas we go. Part 2 is there.
008 reporting on behalf of the dumbasses of Canada!
Suck it up, learn from your mistakes, and move on. Next time, go with someone that can teach you the ropes.
Does anyone know anything about a chica going by the name of Tania? She works in the afternoon. She's in her mid-twenties, flaca with blondish hair. I had some drinks with her, and then left for a while. When I returned, she had already gotten off. Is she a fichera only, or does she go up to the room? I'm hoping to hook up with her the next time I go to HK.
[QUOTE=Quackup]At the h/k the talent wasn't great, but wasn't bad either. As I was approaching the steps to go down-stairs a tall blond was coming down from the office. She didn't look bad so I asked her if she wanted a drink.
She said yes and had a beer. She goes by two names, one is Alexa, the other, I can't remember. She is tall about 5'9", slim and is learning English. Actually her English is pretty decent. After the beer we head over to Cascadas. As we are walking up the stairs she asked, you do know the price. I said yes, $60. She then said she doesn't go up for less than $80. After a bit, I told her $700 pesos or we can end it here.
She agreed and I'am thinking, this might be bad. Anyways we get into the room and I try kissing her, she turns her head and again I'am thinking wrong choice. To lighten up things I asked her if she wanted a massage. She said yes. Boy, good thing I switched tactics on her. After the massage she gave me a kiss and after that, the small kiss became dfk. Maybe it won't be so bad.
After making out a bit, she gave me a cbj, not my favorite, but not bad. She then rode me cg, then to doggie for the finnish. So with her, it wasn't gfe, but it was better than average.
Q[/QUOTE]Her other name she goes by is Xenia. She is recently back working and has added new size to her tits.
This chica at HK is tall, and speaks fairly good english. She seems a lot of fun in the bar, but kept putting me off on going to the room. I had fun with her in the bar, but in the end felt ficha fucked. She kept promising to go to the room "in a little more time" and then at some point she said "next time, I am too drunk" She claimed she doesn't go to the room and would have to meet me there, because she didn't want other customers to see her leave with a client. Didn't matter in the end, because all I got was the promise of next time.
I was at HK a couple days ago. There were a couple big girls during the day but at 5 PM or so they all disappeared. All I saw was hard bodied babes....some all natural and some going for the porn star look.
Also the buying game is still going on.
3 guys all at once trying to get a drink for a girl. I wonder what commision they get and if you could tip them enough to leave you alone, I am sure another number-whatever-conman will come take his place.
Anyways it is the game, you can play or you can ignore it.
Personally I play with it a little bit to make sure they know where my money is going.
Drinks...I will buy 2 and no more is my rule after one trip to TJ. The trap is really an easy one to fall into when you have a cute girl grabbing your manhood.
A guy came by once offering to sell roses for $2...the girl seemed interested so i whispered to her "dinero o floras?" She gave me her answer and I looked the dude in the eye as I tucked $2 in each garter belt. Tho I did end up buying some doll later for her nina or something. That is the problem with playing the game...sooner or later you are gonna get hit back. I saw allot of guys getting attention from girls and no waiter hassling them though.
My advice is to find a girl at HK and go to the vip room with her. That is if you dont mind spending some money. The room costs $42 but that is for 6 drinks for the lady once in the room you can fondle as much as they will allow my buddy actually got a bbbj in there till the waiter came in. They still come in and try to sell you flowers and take pics but just wave them off and go back to what you were doing. These are not the private dance rooms but an actual room in the back left of the club on the second floor.
bs! according to one of the hk girls boyfiriend top girls at hong kong can earn 90+k a year.
[quote=one wing low]saturday night hk had a good 2 dozens strippers. at least 6 of them would rate 7 or above. the lesbian act was hot and long. in contrary, i sat through 5 strippers at ab and they were all porkers. hk sure beats ab and chicago in both quantity and quality.
keep handing out the $1 tips to the strippers. you will never spend more than $20 for the whole night, but the girls will show you lots of appreciation and good company. at hk, for a $1 tip, you can peek, poke, press, pry.... any girl, anywhere you want, which is is a lot of fun.
unlike ab and cc, the girls at hong kong all work hard for very little money. do show them some appreciation.[/quote]
[QUOTE=cool]BS! According to one of the HK girls boyfiriend top girls at Hong Kong can earn 90+k a year.[/QUOTE]
I mean I doubt they are making this much but they aren't doing bad at all. In fact the girls at HK charge more than any other bar in TJ, thats a fact! A guy I know was dating one of the girls down there and she didn't go to the rooms with any of the guys, just danced and got drinks. He told me she would easily clear 500-700 on the busy nights, not bad and like I said this was without going up to the rooms.
Also in terms of reports I was down again last Thursday and maybe I am the most picky guy around but the talent level at HK isn't that great right now. I keep asking the waiters where the new girls are and they actually laugh and say they have no idea! I noticed one new girl that was a solid 9 but some guy was just sitting there buying her full bottles of wine and tequila, it was hilarious. Otherwise I would say there are a couple 8's and then you start dropping down very fast. I still go to HK, if I go to TJ at all, because it is more laid back but not for the quantity of hot girls. I didn't go home with a girl a week back after my first trip to TJ in 3-4 months and I almost did the same this time as well. Country John kind of made a point that I should at least do something since I was down so I just grabbed a cute SW I had done before and she charged 25 for everything including getting fully naked, a solid 6.5 so worth it.
I think if I go back down I will head to HK for drinks and then to AB for a girl because they always have the solid girls. Unfortunately they aren't always guaranteed to be a good lay but I will post my results :)
My friend Jose told me that HK gives really small shots and their hard liquor prices may be among the highest in TJ. If you want hard liquor he says you should try purple rain. Purple Rain gives small shots also but is a better deal. Purple Rain is good for shots only (not the girls) and you will be subject to a search by the doorman. Purple Rain also has a bigger selection.
[QUOTE=California Guy]I mean I doubt they are making this much but they aren't doing bad at all. In fact the girls at HK charge more than any other bar in TJ, thats a fact! A guy I know was dating one of the girls down there and she didn't go to the rooms with any of the guys, just danced and got drinks. He told me she would easily clear 500-700 on the busy nights, not bad and like I said this was without going up to the rooms.
Also in terms of reports I was down again last Thursday and maybe I am the most picky guy around but the talent level at HK isn't that great right now. I keep asking the waiters where the new girls are and they actually laugh and say they have no idea! I noticed one new girl that was a solid 9 but some guy was just sitting there buying her full bottles of wine and tequila, it was hilarious. Otherwise I would say there are a couple 8's and then you start dropping down very fast. I still go to HK, if I go to TJ at all, because it is more laid back but not for the quantity of hot girls. I didn't go home with a girl a week back after my first trip to TJ in 3-4 months and I almost did the same this time as well. Country John kind of made a point that I should at least do something since I was down so I just grabbed a cute SW I had done before and she charged 25 for everything including getting fully naked, a solid 6.5 so worth it.
I think if I go back down I will head to HK for drinks and then to AB for a girl because they always have the solid girls. Unfortunately they aren't always guaranteed to be a good lay but I will post my results :)[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=cool]My friend Jose told me that HK gives really small shots and their hard liquor prices may be among the highest in TJ. [/QUOTE]Tropical gives DOUBLE shots for about $3. as part of their 2 for 1 deal all day until 8pm.
[QUOTE=California Guy] A guy I know was dating one of the girls down there and she didn't go to the rooms with any of the guys, just danced and got drinks. He told me she would easily clear 500-700 on the busy nights, not bad and like I said this was without going up to the rooms.[/QUOTE]I know of a few chicas here who typically (not always) do fichas only. On good nights, which are only about 3 nights a week, they can do 40-50 fichas.
They get $3 per ficha, plus a little bonus bucks for every 10. So for example, at 40 drinks she would get $120 base plus about $30 -$40 bonus. Thats about $160 on a good night, then add $ for when she takes a turn to dance, etc, and maybe a couple private dances (you pay $20, she gets $10). All told she might make about $250 on her best night before she tips the nana, the bartender, the DJ, etc. Don't see how she could clear 500-700 easily as stated above. Even the chicas that go to the room from HK might only go 1-2 times on a busy night, abd that would add another $160 max.
This is rare, but I know a chica here who ended up with 90 fichas one night. She told me she sat with 2 customers that night, back to back. And the only way she got to this number was by the maseros stealing beers from the guys buckets every time they went to the bathroom.
[QUOTE=Jim Intj]I know of a few chicas here who typically (not always) do fichas only. On good nights, which are only about 3 nights a week, they can do 40-50 fichas.
They get $3 per ficha, plus a little bonus bucks for every 10. So for example, at 40 drinks she would get $120 base plus about $30 -$40 bonus. Thats about $160 on a good night, then add $ for when she takes a turn to dance, etc, and maybe a couple private dances (you pay $20, she gets $10). All told she might make about $250 on her best night before she tips the nana, the bartender, the DJ, etc. Don't see how she could clear 500-700 easily as stated above. Even the chicas that go to the room from HK might only go 1-2 times on a busy night, abd that would add another $160 max.
This is rare, but I know a chica here who ended up with 90 fichas one night. She told me she sat with 2 customers that night, back to back. And the only way she got to this number was by the maseros stealing beers from the guys buckets every time they went to the bathroom.[/QUOTE]
Yeah you maybe right....maybe he doubled her numbers :) I did see her one night where she went back to his room and dumped her cash out, it was about 400 and she wasn't doing much all night but had one guy just buying her mass drinks but it was a Saturday. She did dance at the pole and make good tips because she was attractive, also had a lot of guys buying those bad polaroids on nights. Not bad either way for not banging guys.
Anyway in terms of TJ I went back and it was the same thing over again. It is funny because I think there will be different girls, some will change their attitudes, etc...but not much happens. HK is cool to chill because it is more laid back but otherwise the girls aren't that great, even the girl/girl shows are using worse looking girls now. The worst choice I made was I waited til morning to go back and the lines are terrible, it took me 2.5 hours to get from TJ to Downtown San Diego, of course this also included car traffic on the US side but a long time overall. Also girls in HK all start at 100 now to go to the rooms for 30 mins....I think a lot of guys are paying this so they just keep asking. I may go back in a week and just take some SW because I see as many cute girls on the street now.
Spent six nights at the Hong Kong Club recently, and thought I'd share my impressions.
The upgraded, three-level interior has drastically reduced the crowding at peak times. The second floor booths overlooking the first floor provide an excellent vantage point of the main stage and bar stage downstairs. Third floor booths don't offer the same view, but they seemed a popular spot for guys who wanted a somewhat secluded spot to sit with a girl. Didn't check out the VIP room. The mens room is much bigger than before and well maintained.
Beers are $3.50. Didn't buy any hard liquor or chica drinks, so can't report on those prices. Service is good, and the hustle factor is limited to an occasional inquiry whether you'd like to have a girl come sit with you. I suspect the staff gets a cut of private dances, but I'm not sure. In any event, they're not obnoxious about it. No problems with unordered snacks or failure to make correct change. Saturday night entry required purchase of warm beer from a tub at the door. A necessary evil to keep the lookie loos out. IMHO, Adelita Bar should do the same on Friday and Saturday nights.
As the girls, I recently read the Hong Kong Club management had banished less attractive girls to the Miami Club next door. To my eye, the current lineup is improved, but only marginally. IMHO the gross tonnage factor is still entirely too high. I realize that some guys like their girls curvy. But many of the dancers are more bovine than bodacious.
That said, there are a handful of hotties. There is one tallish brunette with a round face who has the figure of a Victoria's Secret model and gorgeous golden skin. There is a hard bodied blonde with a hot tan, an aerobicized body and a hot face. And there's a girl with an ever-so-slightly ethnic face that reminds me a little of actress Jennifer Gray (pre nose job) and a curvy but well-tone figure. Sorry, but I just admired these dancers from afar. So I can't supply their names.
The lesbian shaving cream show is interesting as a novelty act and the girls are fairly attractive. I saw some guys sitting around the stage who tipped several dollars and were rewarded with a chance to briefly finger fuck the girls. Not my cup of tea, but the sleaze is undeniable.
Went for a privado with a cute but not gorgeous girl named Patricia who said she was leaving for home the next day. She quoted $20 for two songs or $30 for three, so I took the volume discount. The booth was spotless and Patricia affectionate enough, removing my shirt then licking and caressing in all the right places. I planned to hit the Adelita Bar later, so I didn't try to get off in the booth, nor did I ask her if she wanted to head for the hotel. But I did see the occasional dancer with a coat on headed out the door with a customer.
By the way, those of you accustomed to the rules in strip clubs in the U.S. may assume that when a dancer is on stage she's committed to dancing out her set. Not so. I discovered that if you want a privado the dancers will just step down from stage and go up with you.
So that's my impression of the Hong Kong Club in October of 2006. A nice place to tune up before getting laid at one of the other clubs, and it has the advantage of proximity that the strips clubs on Avenida Revolucion lack. But the lineup still leaves much to be desired. If they added another half a dozen true hotties, this place would be epic.
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[QUOTE=cool]BS! According to one of the HK girls boyfiriend top girls at Hong Kong can earn 90+k a year.[/QUOTE]
You guys have to remember something, life in TJ for the girls is not "free." They have to pay for their rooms, their food, their clothes, they send money home to the family etc. etc. Many have kids who are in school and have babysitters etc. If they live off property they have rent (those without other means of support that is), taxis hair, nails, doctors etc.
Then thiers the nasty habits. The booze, the drugs etc. So in order to make the kind of money you are talking about, they'd be punch drunk at the end of the shift. The only way they make big money is if YOU PAY big money.
I'm not suggesting that we keep 'em poor but if you're paying $100 for a half hour then that's decent money for sure. The reality is that they are not making that kind of money.
By the way Bunky, GREAT tr and a nicely written one at that. If I could just pull my head out of my ass I could post you in the reports of distinction. Seems like you got your game together. Happy mongering.
Country John
Wise words CJ...
Why is it that people everywhere in the world think that working girls get tons of money all year long, 24/7?
Maybe one or 2, but not ALL the girls make money... and even then, that just comes to them on a very very small time frame, like 18 to 23/25 years old range.
[QUOTE=Country John]You guys have to remember something, life in TJ for the girls is not "free." They have to pay for their rooms, their food, their clothes, they send money home to the family etc. etc. Many have kids who are in school and have babysitters etc. If they live off property they have rent (those without other means of support that is), taxis hair, nails, doctors etc.
Then thiers the nasty habits. The booze, the drugs etc. So in order to make the kind of money you are talking about, they'd be punch drunk at the end of the shift. The only way they make big money is if YOU PAY big money.
I'm not suggesting that we keep 'em poor but if you're paying $100 for a half hour then that's decent money for sure. The reality is that they are not making that kind of money.
By the way Bunky, GREAT tr and a nicely written one at that. If I could just pull my head out of my ass I could post you in the reports of distinction. Seems like you got your game together. Happy mongering.
Country John[/QUOTE]
i hadn't been to the hong kong club for over a month, so i dropped by on a recent saturday night to check out the scene. as usual on saturday nights, i had to buy a $4 beer from the tub at the front door. for a change it was cold.
inside the club was so packed it was difficult to move around. but that's what i get for arriving at nine o'clock. most of the dancers were on stage for a revue, but there were so many guys on the ground floor it was difficult to get a good look. figured the second floor would be less crowded, and it was. found a seat near the bar, and began to check out the talent.
i had only just begun my study when i was interrupted by a girl i'd never seen before named africa, who hailed from chihuahua. she was about five foot, five inches tall, perhaps 120 pounds, with short blonde hair done with lots of product and a cute face featuring bright white teeth. she was wearing a strapless black minidress that showed off her firm toned legs, full ass, and a very nicely done boob job. by "nicely done," i mean that africa's enhanced tits were round, symmetrical, rode high on her chest and they stopped about one-tenth of one percent short of being too big for her frame. the overall look was very porn star, if you like that sort of thing.
unbidden, africa took a seat in my lap, slipped one of her perfectly manicured hands in between my legs and went straight to work on mr. wood. i figured her adult video looks and friendly disposition warranted a drink, and waiter number 94 was only too happy to oblige. (very nice guy, by the way. with excellent english. if you're new to the hong kong club, look him up.) for the next 15 minutes, africa sipped some kind of pastel fluid while letting my hands roam all over her body. definitely an acceptable way to start my evening in the zona norte.
after a fashion, africa had mr. wood rather excited and she began her sales pitch. i expected her to recommend a private dance, but she surprised me by suggesting we go upstairs to the hotel. i was solely tempted, but i had just begun my evening. so i asked if she'd do a bareback blowjob, not really caring how she responded. africa said no, but i could tell her refusal wasn't ironclad.
i was having fun, so i suggested a private dance in one of the booths up on the third floor. gave africa $30 for three songs, closed the door and very much enjoyed watching her wriggle out of that minidress. her tits with just a impressive as i expected, with small pink areolae and tiny nipples. africa pulled her filmy black thong down over her hips, but didn't take it all the way off. i could still see her tight little pussy was almost totally shaven, with just a little bit of stubble at the top. the only flaw i could see in her otherwise hot body was her stomach, which was just slightly less than toned.
but i pick nits. africa was easily the best looker i'd seen in the hong kong club in many months. and she did a good job during the private dance as well, vigorously yanking and cranking mr. wood through my trousers, as my hands roamed all over her smoking body. she seemed a little uncomfortable with too much attention to her nipples, but she made up for that by encouraging me to have my way with her nice round ass. africa also let me to finger fuck her a little bit -- which increased the nastiness quotient nicely. every few minutes she added a some girlfriend vibe with a little kiss on the mouth. during the third song i pushed my luck by pulling down the zipper on my pants, but africa claimed that wasn't allowed. i have no idea if this is really a club rule, or if she just didn't want to go there.
if my goal had been to get off in the booth, i think i would have preferred it if africa had used her mouth on my crotch, or if she had reached inside my pants like some of the more aggressive girls at madonas and elsewhere on avenida revolucion. but i wasn't trying to bust a nut in the booth, and africa was light years better looking than most tijuana strippers so the nasty factor was just perfect for tuning up.
i stepped out of the booth a happy man, caught in africa's tractor beam of hotness. she knew it, and once again lobbied for a trip upstairs. i renewed my request for a bbbj, this time offering a tip. africa agreed. now we where getting someplace! problem was i had to meet friends at another club, so i promised to return in an hour. given how busy it was that night at the hong kong club, i was worried about finding africa again, but exactly 60 minutes later there she was. "my novio!" she said when she saw me. up to the hotel cascadas.
we hadn't discussed money, but in the room i gave africa $60 up front. i definitely considered her a trophy fuck girl, and i knew that many chicas in that class demand at least $70, so i wanted to see if i'd get any pushback. not a peep, so we got down to business and i had once again the chance to admire africa's smoking hot body.
when it was time for the blowjob, she produced a condom. i reminded her we'd agreed on a bbbj, and she said that would be $40 extra.
now i know what you're thinking -- the damn bait and switch! but i didn't see it that way. first, i had agreed to pay a tip for the bareback blowjob. we just never discussed how much the tip would be. second, we didn't agree in advance on the cost of the session, and in my view i was getting off cheap at $60 for a trophy fuck girl from the hong kong club. third, i seldom visit the zona norte and i'm just not that price sensitive. so i agreed to the extra tariff.
let me tell you, it was worth every centavo. it was easily the best condomless blowjob i've had in years from any woman, professional or amateur. africa's technique was excellent, she knew just what to do with her hands, she looked me in the eye while she blew me, and not once did she let up until i was ready to fuck her. which, after all the build up and the awesome bbbj, was almost an anticlimax. (hey beavis! he said "climax.") but not totally an anticlimax. looking into africa's gorgeous face while my hard dick plowed her shaved snatch and my hands fondled her perfectly enhanced tits was pretty damn nice as well.
by the time i headed home, i'd spent $10 on africa's ficha drink, $30 on the privado, $12 for the room and $100 for the session for a grand total of $152. that's quite a bit of money by zona norte standards. you could easily bang two girls from the adelita bar for that much. but the adelita bar is an fuck factory and i wasn't in the mood for the assembly line. plus, it's all relative. in a u.s. strip club the same amount of money would get me some lap dances or a lame all-talk-no-action trip to the "vip room." at the hong kong club, from the moment africa plopped herself down in my lap it was a porn star experience featuring a girl i thought was smoking hot highlighted by a superb bareback blowjob. so the quality versus quantity tradeoff was worth it for me. as always in the commercial sex trade, you may disagree.
bunky
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Anyone else in the Hong Kong club Friday night when the music stopped and the lights came on so that about 10 Policia in uniform and plain clothes with masks covering their faces (some with what looked like AK-47's) did a sweep of the club focusing on a table of locals in the corner nearest the shower? Never could figure out what happened, but heard someone was shot earlier in the day. Maybe it was related to that. In any event, the 45 minutes or so it took to complete the sweep and the paperwork was a much needed break from the blaring music. The experience, which was slightly unnerving, was a good reminder that I wasn't in the US anymore. As you know, in the US, the cops don't wear masks, which is why they are vulnerable to lawsuits when the video of them beating the crap out of some deserving fellow appears on YouTube.
[QUOTE=Doe25] The experience, which was slightly unnerving, was a good reminder that I wasn't in the US anymore. As you know, in the US, the cops don't wear masks [/QUOTE]
The cops in TJ are being targeted and killed, probably by drug gangs. They cover their faces so they can't be id.
[QUOTE=Carlos Perez]Wise words CJ...
Why is it that people everywhere in the world think that working girls get tons of money all year long, 24/7?
Maybe one or 2, but not ALL the girls make money... and even then, that just comes to them on a very very small time frame, like 18 to 23/25 years old range.[/QUOTE]
Because most gringos over-spend, and think that everyone else is as foolish with their money as they are. The girls don't always get the loose fish but when they do, they work 'em.
If the girls made the same amount of money off every customer as they do off the average gringo then thry'd probably be pulling down big buck every year.
Gringos need to manage their monger money better.
As for the girls, they are usually supporting one or more kids and many are major wage earners compared to others in the family so money goes home to mamma. They have to live int he meantime, they buy clothes etc. So it's not a free ride for the girls.
You talk to a lot of girls Carlos, what are they telling you?
Country John
Bunky,
Looks like I've been spending way too much time at Adelita's.
Anyone has any info on this Victoria Secret model disguised as a dancer @ Hong Kong. I had a two dance session with her, and it was just terrible. I thought may be it was just a bad day. Miranda said she is from TJ. I wonder if she wil go upstairs? Her attitude is one of the worst I've seen, but then it could jusy be a bad day! Any comments?
[QUOTE=Pauly6734]Miranda said she is from TJ. I wonder if she wil go upstairs? Her attitude is one of the worst I've seen, but then it could jusy be a bad day! Any comments?[/QUOTE]YMMV as with anything I think. She was pretty nice and laid back when I drank with her. Same when another buddy drank with her a different day. MUST of been a bad day, hehehe :)
[QUOTE=Doe25]Anyone else in the Hong Kong club Friday night when the music stopped and the lights came on so that about 10 Policia in uniform and plain clothes with masks covering their faces (some with what looked like AK-47's) did a sweep of the club focusing on a table of locals in the corner nearest the shower? Never could figure out what happened, but heard someone was shot earlier in the day. Maybe it was related to that. In any event, the 45 minutes or so it took to complete the sweep and the paperwork was a much needed break from the blaring music. The experience, which was slightly unnerving, was a good reminder that I wasn't in the US anymore. As you know, in the US, the cops don't wear masks, which is why they are vulnerable to lawsuits when the video of them beating the crap out of some deserving fellow appears on YouTube.[/QUOTE]
TJ Cops are patrolling all the bars now, and I have seen them aks people for ID lately. Mainly locals, but you never know. Make sure to have your ID with you at all times in TJ. There's a (drug) war going on down there right now, and us mongers are caught in the middle of it. Can't even drive anywhere without being stopped at a checkpoint. My advice is to leave the car in el norte, walk over, and take taxis. They seem to get waved through most checkpoints. Just be careful down there...always good advice, but even more so now.
Blue Nose
I was in Hong Kong yesterday, and was sitting with Rosanna, from Mexico City. I asked her to go to the room, but she could/would not due to her being on her period.
She was nice, and spoke pretty good english, so i started pointing out various Chicas, and asked her to help me find me someone to go to the room with me.
I picked out a couple of hotties, and asked her to call them over one at a time. She asked them for me, and the first two responded $100!
I thnk i pissed them off, because i laughed out loud both times, after each one, Rosanna would whisper in my ear: "that Girls' CRAZY!"
I agreed with her on both counts. I ended up going to the room with another of Rosanna's friends, and then went to Adelitas for round two.
Are some of you mongers actually paying $100 for a trip to the room?
(I did notice that neither of the chicas that quoted that amount were actually going to the room with anyone, so they may have just quoted that much because they did not want to go up with anyone - or, maybe it was just me...)
if that is becoming the norm, i'm going to have to stay in L.A.
Dylan
Rosanna or Roxanna, used to be Diana last year. She is a pretty cool chica. Now has her sister there also working. This is daytime HK. Diana used to have a Padrote and did drugs a bit too much. She seems selective sometimes on who she goes up with, but she is also less jealous than most, and her helping you find another chica while she is on her period is a sign of that.
I wasn't inside but I was walking through the alley when I saw it go down. I waited outside for a while because I thought I'd see them drag out some axe murderer or the like but no one came out. I had know idea it was just a bar check. That's like sending in the Navy Seals to prevent jaywaking. AK-47's, all in black with masks, WTF. The police presence is getting way out of hand and I sure it is going to start taking its toll on visits from the north.
Be safe, Rider Jay
[QUOTE=Doe25]Anyone else in the Hong Kong club Friday night when the music stopped and the lights came on so that about 10 Policia in uniform and plain clothes with masks covering their faces (some with what looked like AK-47's) did a sweep of the club focusing on a table of locals in the corner nearest the shower? Never could figure out what happened, but heard someone was shot earlier in the day. Maybe it was related to that. In any event, the 45 minutes or so it took to complete the sweep and the paperwork was a much needed break from the blaring music. The experience, which was slightly unnerving, was a good reminder that I wasn't in the US anymore. As you know, in the US, the cops don't wear masks, which is why they are vulnerable to lawsuits when the video of them beating the crap out of some deserving fellow appears on YouTube.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Rider Jay]The police presence is getting way out of hand and I sure it is going to start taking its toll on visits from the north. [/QUOTE]It only appears to be getting out of hand to those who do not travel frequently into Mexico, especially those from the US. Many citizens in Mexico are used to seeing the huge white pickups with the cops/soldiers in the back carrying shotguns & automatic weapons. Remeber, Tijuana is a border town. Many people of all kinds travel here for different reasons, especially criminal (those involved in the drug trade, and child molesters). There is a special unit within TJ law enforcement (or they could be State police) that deal with the drug situation and will be very scary to anyone not used to seeing a bust. On the child molester issue, have any of you seen the billboards just crossing the border in TJ that have the picture of a mexican child with the tagline "I'm not a tourist attraction"? Errie...
The cops who hang out mostly in La Zona are municipal, and it's these guys that are becoming the increasing problem with shakedowns & bribes. Just be respectful. Better yet, travel in pairs.
Salud!
Geek
[QUOTE=BillyGeek]It The cops who hang out mostly in La Zona are municipal, and it's these guys that are becoming the increasing problem with shakedowns & bribes. Just be respectful. Better yet, travel in pairs.
Salud!
Now is the worst time of the year to go to the zona, a lot of the girls live town for the holidays, and the cops are trying to get some extra cash for Christmas, I going to disagree with Geek, Quote= going in pairs or more gets more attention to the cops, I talked to a few guys visiting the zona, and they have told me about shakeddowns that happened to him and his friends.
I go alone ol the time, never had any problem, the cops don't like weirdo, like young guys wearing funny clothing body piercing etc, just be a normal average guy you'll be all right.
I do agree sometimes you get across a bad apple cop in your way back to the border, that's why I like to use ol my money and just live a few bucks in my wallet in case of trouble,they will search you and check your wallet, and sometimes they take whatever is in it "RARE" but sometimes happens, everything is tourist money in TJ.
If someone acts like an idiot for a lousy 10 bucks, the cops are gonna make your day to remember, so like the previous guy said, be polite, and don't try to play tough guy, remember they can always find a whatever excuse to take you downtown! Funny to say but I feel safer walking at night in TJ than here in L.A.
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Greetings,
Apparently you inadverently forgot to correctly place the quote tags in this report. Usually I can fix it before it's displayed, but I don't have a clue as to how you intended this report to appear.
The quote tags are simple to use, all you have to do is look.
Anything that you want to appear in quotes must start with "[quote]" and end with "[/quote ]". It's that simple.
In addition, you can preview your report before it's posted, so it's easy to check if you got it right before it's displayed in The Forum..
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Jackson[/blue]
Greetings,
Apparently you inadverently forgot to correctly place the quote tags in this report. Usually I can fix it before it's displayed, but I don't have a clue as to how you intended this report to appear.
The quote tags are simple to use, all you have to do is look.
Anything that you want to appear in quotes must start with "[quote]" and end with "[/quote ]". It's that simple.
In addition, you can preview your report before it's posted, so it's easy to check if you got it right before it's displayed in The Forum..
Thanks,
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The problem is when I click the "QUOTE icon, does not appear in a hightlight
way in my "PREVIEW REPORT", and sometimes it does, so I don't know what I'm doing wrong, maybe someone can help?
I can't make my "QUOTE to show inside a shadow square like above, and sometimes I can, why is that?
Thanks.............
ANYbody know a busty dancer named ZAFIRO?
[QUOTE=HornyTraveler]Greetings,
Apparently you inadverently forgot to correctly place the quote tags in this report. Usually I can fix it before it's displayed, but I don't have a clue as to how you intended this report to appear.
The quote tags are simple to use, all you have to do is look.
Anything that you want to appear in quotes must start with "
The problem is when I click the "QUOTE icon, does not appear in a hightlight
way in my "PREVIEW REPORT", and sometimes it does, so I don't know what I'm doing wrong, maybe someone can help?
I can't make my "QUOTE to show inside a shadow square like above, and sometimes I can, why is that?
Thanks.............[/QUOTE]Lucky for us all, computers are actually very stupid and will do ONLY what they are told to do.
When you have the tags properly set using the [] braces and inserting between them the word QUOTE between the braces at the beginning of the text and /QUOTE between the braces at the end of the text, you will ALWAYS see the text appear [QUOTE]In a box just like this one.[/QUOTE]
It's a no brainer. Take your time. You'll get it right.
There is no "sometimes it works and sometimes it don't." You either have the code right or you don't. Computers are very stupid. They have to be instructed to operate. Similar to most women I suppose.
When you select the "quote" button, this coding is done automatically for you, just make sure you place your curser BELOW the "quoted" text before you start typing. When you use the "quote" button, the "quoted text" will not appear highlited in your text entry window. It only appears when you submit the post.
Use the "preview" button to see what it looks like before submitting the post and if it just doesn't look right, make sure that the thing you quoted as a pair of []'s with the word QUOTE between them at the beginning and a set of []'s at the end with /QUOTE in between.
Country John
[QUOTE]When you have the tags properly set using the [] braces and inserting between them the word QUOTE between the braces at the beginning of the text and /QUOTE between the braces at the end of the text, you will ALWAYS see the text appear
Country John[/QUOTE]I thing I got it now!
I was forgeting to leave the [] braces in my quote!
Thank you Country John, you're the man!
[QUOTE=Rabo Verde]ANYbody know a busty dancer named ZAFIRO?[/QUOTE]Ah Safiro. What a nice body on this small girl. Nice natural rack to boot. Her face is so-so.
Usually busy, have heard both negative and positive about her in the room. So as for sex, YMMV as with everything.
I went down for my 1 trip every 3 months and noticed a slightly improved crop of ladies. I would say there were more 6 and 7's than 4 and 5's like I normally see, and of course they have 2-3 8's always around. Overalll it was still bad though, girls asking for stupid prices, even on a cold Wed this time of year, so don't expect too much. I just ended up with a girl outside instead and saved my money but as always she was as lively as a blow up doll. I hope more and more people stop going to TJ so things will improve, in terms of costs and especially service but I haven't seen this happen and doubt it will. I may go down Sunday and try again only because I noticed one girl I really wanted, otherwise I will roll back in 3-4 months.
[QUOTE=Jim Intj]Rosanna or Roxanna, used to be Diana last year. She is a pretty cool chica. Now has her sister there also working. This is daytime HK. Diana used to have a Padrote and did drugs a bit too much. She seems selective sometimes on who she goes up with, but she is also less jealous than most, and her helping you find another chica while she is on her period is a sign of that.[/QUOTE]I was in TJ/Hong Kong again yesterday, and ran into the same thing with Roxanna. When I told her I wanted to go to the room, she said "after I dance". So, a few fishas and dances, and then if was " I'm menustrating, here, my sister will go". Her sister was cool enough, but WTF?
This is the 2nd time, so I guess she is really selective about who she goes up with.
Jim, do you have a comment on this?
Dylan
[QUOTE=Dylan]I was in TJ/Hong Kong again yesterday, and ran into the same thing with Roxanna. When I told her I wanted to go to the room, she said "after I dance". So, a few fishas and dances, and then if was " I'm menustrating, here, my sister will go". Her sister was cool enough, but WTF?
This is the 2nd time, so I guess she is really selective about who she goes up with.
Jim, do you have a comment on this?
Dylan[/QUOTE]She is using this excuse a lot lately, and tends to pimp her sister out, which I have not taken her up on. Roxana makes decent $ from fichas, but her sister needs help with the $. Roxana was fun in the room a few times about a year ago, but now she seems to have quit going up. She told me she doesn't go up but she would with me since she did before. When I told her let's go, she said we needed to wait for another day because of her period. Whatever. I moved on and saw another daytime chica named Rocio. Roxana was pissed, but I told her she couldn't give me what I wanted, which was not to be ficha fucked.
[QUOTE=Dylan]I was in TJ/Hong Kong again yesterday, and ran into the same thing with Roxanna. When I told her I wanted to go to the room, she said "after I dance". So, a few fishas and dances, and then if was " I'm menustrating, here, my sister will go". Her sister was cool enough, but WTF?
This is the 2nd time, so I guess she is really selective about who she goes up with.
Jim, do you have a comment on this?
Dylan[/QUOTE]I know Roxanna/Diana well. She is a ficha fuck girl. She will lead you on and on and on and no fuck/suck will come out of it. She is a jealous, hot headed little *****. He sister tags along like a boil on your neck. Roxanna has some nice titts and is cute enough, you're just not going to get far with her. Ficha fuck all the way. If you haven't banged an HK girl by the second visit forget it. Move on. Don't continue to waste your time or money on Roxanna.
Cool, thanks for the intel guys. That will be the last fisha I buy for that chick. Too bad, really.
Dylan
[QUOTE=Zona Monger]I know Roxanna/Diana well. She is a ficha fuck girl. She will lead you on and on and on and no fuck/suck will come out of it. She is a jealous, hot headed little *****. He sister tags along like a boil on your neck. Roxanna has some nice titts and is cute enough, you're just not going to get far with her. Ficha fuck all the way. If you haven't banged an HK girl by the second visit forget it. Move on. Don't continue to waste your time or money on Roxanna.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Zona Monger]I know Roxanna/Diana well. She is a ficha fuck girl. She will lead you on and on and on and no fuck/suck will come out of it. She is a jealous, hot headed little *****. He sister tags along like a boil on your neck. Roxanna has some nice titts and is cute enough, you're just not going to get far with her. Ficha fuck all the way. If you haven't banged an HK girl by the second visit forget it. Move on. Don't continue to waste your time or money on Roxanna.[/QUOTE]LOL, I think I know her. I brought a buddy of mine who has never been to TJ here 4 months ago. He was buying this one girl drinks all night, plus at least 4 polaroids, stuffed animals, the whole nine. He kept on asking me what the deal was with the girls, and I told him you just take them upstairs and bang them. I'm no veteran to TJ, but I never fathomed there were girls in these places that would refuse to go upstairs. Maybe if you were real filthy or creepy looking, but that would be the rare exception.
We were all having a good time with the girls, and when it was getting late I took the girl I was with to the room. When he went to do the same, she said she was having her period. I was cracking up seeing the look on his face eventhough it really wasn't that funny. Poor guy spent at least $200 on her.
MC
LOL!
Ok, I'm laughing also, but I do feel for the guy. I was pissed that I spent $30 or so on drinks. I don't feel so bad now!
I guess my Fischa tolerance is much lower than his; if I spend $200, I'm gonna fuck something!
Too funny. Thanks for posting that.
Dylan
[QUOTE=Mikecnyc]LOL, I think I know her. I brought a buddy of mine who has never been to TJ here 4 months ago. He was buying this one girl drinks all night, plus at least 4 polaroids, stuffed animals, the whole nine. He kept on asking me what the deal was with the girls, and I told him you just take them upstairs and bang them. I'm no veteran to TJ, but I never fathomed there were girls in these places that would refuse to go upstairs. Maybe if you were real filthy or creepy looking, but that would be the rare exception.
We were all having a good time with the girls, and when it was getting late I took the girl I was with to the room. When he went to do the same, she said she was having her period. I was cracking up seeing the look on his face eventhough it really wasn't that funny. Poor guy spent at least $200 on her.
MC[/QUOTE]
My buddy is in the middle of it with her right now. Like all the others he got the ficha fuck from Diana, over and over. I've know her for about a year now and partied with her and another chica in the 3rd floor privados but, I've never fucked her either...my buddy is sure trying though. I try to tell him what the deal is but she is a hottie. Just no panocha.
Went to HK and had a great, GFE time with Estephanie from Michoacan. Did the $42 VIP room x 2. Total $84 + my beers $10 +tip $5 + hotel $12 + Fucky/Sucky $100 + Tacos $6= $227.
Grin on my face after exhaustive BBBJ, DATY, Mish, Doggy, CG, and reverse CG to completion= Priceless!!
I know I might have overpaid, but I don't come here often. I am still smiling about it!!
Dirk DIggler
[QUOTE=Dirk Diggler]Went to HK and had a great, GFE time with Estephanie from Michoacan. Did the $42 VIP room x 2. Total $84 + my beers $10 +tip $5 + hotel $12 + Fucky/Sucky $100 + Tacos $6= $227.
Grin on my face after exhaustive BBBJ, DATY, Mish, Doggy, CG, and reverse CG to completion= Priceless!!
I know I might have overpaid, but I don't come here often. I am still smiling about it!!
Dirk DIggler[/QUOTE]
That's a little too much $$$
What did you get for $42 VIP ?
Don't forget this is TJ, and we must keep the prices down, or we're gonna pay the price in the years to come.
In reality, you end up paying $7 per beer for the girl. So, for $42 you get 6 beers, and the time it takes her to drink those. (FICHA DRINKS). I had two of the $42 rounds, but we must have spent about close to 3 hours in the room, just chillin', talking, DFK, DATY, and fingering her.
It was $100 in the room for 30 min FS. BBBJ and multiple positions.
Good date, so couldn't complain. Don't think I would overpay willingly again, however, next time I am in TJ.
Dirk Diggler
Friday night HK wasn't very packed around 10-11pm. Lots of girls are back now from their long christmas vacation.
Safiro was looking good.
Paris tasty as usual, don't even think she took any vacation.
Dirk Diggler
[QUOTE] know I might have overpaid, but I don't come here often. I am still smiling about it!![/QUOTE]I guess that explains why prices are going up everywhere for services. We go to clubs, get drunk, decide that we have met a lifetime mate and spend money like the fools that we are. No personal offense to you, Dirk, it's just that we all do this shit. We need to collect ourselves and remain in control as best is possible.
DN
I don't read these board any more than once every few months. It's interesting that a Roxanna/Dianna combo works at HK and also posts a few ads on CL from time to time quoting 60/bbbj and 100/fs. Their ads claim to have incall in Chula Vista somewhere. I called the number once and got some voicemail system.
Can anyone post a description of these girls?
[QUOTE=Zona Monger]My buddy is in the middle of it with her right now. Like all the others he got the ficha fuck from Diana, over and over. I've know her for about a year now and partied with her and another chica in the 3rd floor privados but, I've never fucked her either...my buddy is sure trying though. I try to tell him what the deal is but she is a hottie. Just no panocha.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Clicker619]I don't read these board any more than once every few months. It's interesting that a Roxanna/Dianna combo works at HK and also posts a few ads on CL from time to time quoting 60/bbbj and 100/fs. Their ads claim to have incall in Chula Vista somewhere. I called the number once and got some voicemail system.
Can anyone post a description of these girls?[/QUOTE]Roxanna/Diana are the same girl. Her name was Diana last year and she changed to Roxanna this year. She has nothing to do with Craigs and cannot come to the U.S. legally. Roxanna does not do sexo any longer. She is a ficha fucker only. She will lead you on and on to get your ficha money. As for a bbbj or fs. Forget it, on Craigs or in TJ. I think the above poster somehow read the wrong info in the Roxanna/Diana conversation.
[QUOTE=Zona Monger]Roxanna/Diana are the same girl. Her name was Diana last year and she changed to Roxanna this year. She has nothing to do with Craigs and cannot come to the U.S. legally. [/QUOTE]
It's just too much coincidence, two latinas Roxanas/Dianas in both sides of the border and cannot come to the U.S.?????
[url]http://sandiego.craigslist.org/ers/279139460.html[/url]
[url]http://sandiego.craigslist.org/ers/277591239.html[/url]
[QUOTE=HornyTraveler]It's just too much coincidence, two latinas Roxanas/Dianas in both sides of the border and cannot come to the U.S. Sorry I don't buy it!
[url]http://sandiego.craigslist.org/ers/279139460.html[/url]
[url]http://sandiego.craigslist.org/ers/277591239.html[/url][/QUOTE]Roxanna / Diana are the same person, not two different girls. It's not her body. Have you met R/D in person, because if you had I think you might change your opinion that the girls in the Craigs pics are her.
[QUOTE=Zona Monger]Roxanna / Diana are the same person, not two different girls. It's not her body. Have you met R/D in person, because if you had I think you might change your opinion that the girls in the Craigs pics are her.[/QUOTE]
You could be right,
I just saying it looks very suspicious to find the same girl on both places,
and there's a few girls from State side working the zona.
Hey!!!!!! You know her and I don't, so I can't argue.
Take care!
OK. So let's try to clarify this.
Does Roxana on Craigslist work in HK club or are these 2 DIFFERENT GIRLS?
NOTE: It was mentioned that Roxana (HK) could not enter the US legally. One of the photos on CL has an address to escortstj.us but she is not on the website. She is listed at 5'2" 115lbs. with incall in Chula Vista.
Can anyone who's met Roxana (HK) verify if the photos of Roxana (CL) look like the same person?
[QUOTE=Zona Monger]Roxanna / Diana are the same person, not two different girls. It's not her body. Have you met R/D in person, because if you had I think you might change your opinion that the girls in the Craigs pics are her.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Clicker619]OK. So let's try to clarify this.
Does Roxana on Craigslist work in HK club or are these 2 DIFFERENT GIRLS?
NOTE: It was mentioned that Roxana (HK) could not enter the US legally. One of the photos on CL has an address to escortstj.us but she is not on the website. She is listed at 5'2" 115lbs. with incall in Chula Vista.
Can anyone who's met Roxana (HK) verify if the photos of Roxana (CL) look like the same person?[/QUOTE]They are two different girls. I know the HK Roxanna. This is not the Craigs Roxana. The HK Roxanna works days most days except Thursday. They are not the same girl. HK Roxana cannot go through the port to get to the US and I doubt she pays a somone to smuggle her in for an afternoon of works on Craigs. Not the same girl.
[size=-1]This is a trip report in four parts as follows:
Part One – A Fine Afternoon (posted in Tijuana Reports)
Part Two – The Grim Reaper (posted in Miami Bar Reports)
Part Three – My Sweet Freebie (posted in Hong Kong Club Reports)
Part Four – Street Adventures (posted in Streetwalker Reports)[/size]
[b]Part Three – My Sweet Freebie[/b]
It's about 7:00 p.m. on Sunday night. I just finished showering after a nice session with Alison from Miami Bar. I head up Constitución to see if Miss NoKisses would like to get a beer with me (see Part One in Tijuana Reports), but she isn't around. I turn up Primera and stop in at El Fracaso Bar. Now this is truly slumming, but what the hell. As near as I can tell, I'm the only American in here. Several girls turn to look at me out of curiosity. I stand around for a while but don't see any prospects, so I head across the street to Rio Verde Bar.
Rio Verde is a dark, grubby bar. I ask for a seat and they put me in back sharing a small table with a couple of drunk Mexican guys. They were harmless and actually friendly, so it worked out okay. They leave after a few minutes. The waiter brings over a girl. I buy her a fiche beer. We dance a couple of dances. She nice enough but there's no chemistry between us and I thank her and let her go after she finishes her beer.
I head back toward my hotel, lookng for Miss NoKisses on the way, but she isn't around. I get a couple of bottles of water and bring them to my room. The key to avoiding hangover for me is really lots of water, so I always keep a bottle next to the bed.
At about 8:00 p.m., I head over to Miami Bar and pass through to Hong Kong Bar. Let me tell you, it's hopping with lots of hot girls! The first floor is crowded, so I walk up to the second floor where there are a few booths open. I take a seat right behind the little stage, get a beer, and settle in. Moments later a cute, slender brunette is dancing right there in front of me. She is completely bottomless. I take out a dollar bill and she plops right into my lap facing me and grinds away. Ah, yes this is the treatment and attention I love about Tijuana.
A few girls later on the stage, an average looking, non-descript brunette is dancing. I offer her a dollar bill and she just stands in front of me offering no "personal" attention. Odd. Next she's on her back in front of someone sitting at the stage and her moves, the way she sways her legs and just something about her makes me think she is an American stripper. Her mannerisms, her moves are familiar to me but nothing like I've seen in Mexcio. She must be an American. Moments later, another non-descript brunette walks up behind me says in a nasally USA dialect says, "How are ya?" I feel like I'm being cheated here, another American girl! Damn. (A nod here to Country John--you're right there are Americans working in TJ).
So, while I'm sitting there a girl slips in next to me and wraps her arms around me. This isn't unusual in these clubs. Typically what ensues is a request to buy the girl a drink, I would decline, and she would quickly excuse herself from me. But this isn't what happens here. She is all sweetness and honey toward me and, for some strange reason, she's decided that I'm the best thing she's seen all day, all month for that matter.
I'll call her Sweety, to respect her privacy. She shared many details about her background and upbringing like we were old friends. She came from a very strict, religious background and is now living completely contrary her all of her values. Nevertheless, she would like to take me back to her room. Supposedly, I will be the first man she has ever brought back to her private room. She will do anything I want as long as I agree to two things: wear a condom and don't fuck her in the ass. Other than that, she would like to have me spend the night with her.
I'm having a hard time taking all of this in. But it's about damn time I got something for free in TJ so I figure I will go with the flow and see what happens. About this time a waiter shows up and I order her a fiche. I'm still nursing my original beer. She sucks it down rapido and orders another fiche. Sweety is dressed in a skimpy skirt and top and my hands are roaming over her terrain. She keeps trying to suck my brains out through my ear. She keeps up the chatter just gushing all over me with her heart. But she's not at all sad, she is very upbeat and keeps insisting that I go back to her room with her. Her room is at Hotel Las Cascadas and she tells me I'll have to pay the hotel for permission to stay in her room with her. I ask her to come to my hotel, and she quickly agrees. We order another fiche. She explains again that I will be her first man to spend the night in her room. I remind her that we're going to my hotel. She keeps calling me her American cabrón, all the time with a grin on her face.
Sweety says she has to turn in her fiche tickets. She asks me to please stay and wait for her to return. Sure. Ten minutes later, she has jeans on and her backpack over her shoulder. Let's go!
I'm expecting to be hit with a salida fee by the bar or for something to go wrong, but no, out we go. Once on the street in front of Hong Kong, Sweety decides that she's hungry and insists on going across the street to a hole in the wall called Restaurante Kristy. I've been here several times with various street girls in the past, but rarely eat anything myself. The taco stands and small restaurants like this simply have little concept of cleanliness IMHO. Anyway, we come crashing into this tiny, two-table restaurant and Sweety orders some soup. What do I want? Nothing, thanks. "Hey, hey, you are in Mexico now you cabrón, why won't you eat Mexican food?" She turns to the woman preparing food and asks her, "Why shouldn't this American cabrón eat some Mexican food?" The woman shrugs her shoulders and laughingly shakes her head. Everyone in the restaurant laughs. It's obvious to everyone that Sweety has had one too many cervezas. She keep calling me a cabrón and everyone in the restaurant is enjoying the spectacle.
The soup arrives and its a chicken soup with noodles. In fact there's a big, meaty chunk of chicken spine plopped into the bowl. To me this is kind of gross. Sweety pours in some salsa verde. She decides this is wonderful soup and feeds some to me. It's very tasty, I admit. Tortillas arrive and now she starts feeding me meat and noodles piled into small pieces of tortilla. There's no frijoles on the table. We certainly can't have a meal without frijoles! She orders some up and a small plate appears quickly. And so it goes. A few minutes later she is asking for the bill, pays it herself, and leaves a small tip, like 5 pesos. As we're leaving I thank the cook and leave another 10 peso coin.
Moments later, we're in my small hotel room. Now she asks, "How much are you going to pay me? One hundred dollars? Twenty dollars? Nothing, you cabrón." She laughs, "I don't want you money." Sweety jumps my bones and fucks me with a fury. I quickly pop and we lay back for a few minutes. Now she starts again with the idea of going back to her room to spend the night. She's obsessed with the idea, so I finally agree. Off we go to Cascadas. The reception desk makes me pay $350 pesos and give us a couple of fresh towels. Her room is on the sixth floor and she can't find the key, but a security guard appears out of nowhere and lets us in.
Oh my god! This is the filthiest room I have ever seen. The room smells, garbage is everywhere. This bar girl is clearly a life out of control. She's a little bit embarrassed and quickly tries to straighten up a bit. I'm starting to take pity on her and consider how difficult this strange lifestyle must be for her. We take our clothes off, she turns off the lights and we hold each other in bed.
After about half an hour of laying there I tell her I'm not ready to sleep yet. She ask if I want more sex. Yes. "You cabrón, you want me to fuck you some more?" I tell her to suck me. She starts and is just terrible. I try to give her a short tutorial. She really has no idea at all of how to do this. Okay, forget that. I ask her to lay next to me and kiss. She is terrible at kissing. She has only two settings, putting her tongue down my throat or laying there with her mouth wide open. She really doesn't seem to know how to kiss. She explains that she never kisses with men. I spend about twenty minutes trying to teach her how to kiss. It may seem odd that a TJ prostitute wouldn't know how to give a blow job or how to kiss, but I've encountered this in the past. We turn out the lights on go to sleep.
I toss and turn unable to sleep. My head is congested, probably allergic to this filthy room. She is snoring. The traffic outside is loud. It's starting to rain. Sweety had been talking about spending tomorrow together, but I'm thinking this room is not a comfortable place for me, she'll have a hangover, it's just not going to work for me. I wake her and tell her I'm going back to my own hotel room. She says okay, no problem. We kiss for a few minutes. She still can't kiss, and I leave, walking away from a free TLN.
It's almost midnight as I walk through the lobby and down the stairs. The security guards stops me and asks if everything is okay. He says I have paid for the entire night, so if I want to return anytime tonight or tomorrow morning it's okay. I thank him and leave.
[b]End of Part Three – Part Four continues in Streetwalker Reports[/b]
Went down on a Wed. and TJ was the slowest I've ever seen it! I went straight to HK but there were few ladies, actually few people in general. The girls that around were okay but no special ones and nobody new. I keep asking the waiters when new girls are going to be showing up and they say they don't know either, of course I have been asking this question for about the past 6 months. I don't go down often, in fact I had take a 3 month break and have been about 3 times in the past 3 months.
As for my time I bought way too many beers, I don't mean for the girls :) just hung out and drank for a while waiting for a friend but he never showed. I always go to HK because I know that there probably won't be any great girls but if nothing else I can chill with friends, chat with the waiters, etc.. and it's not bad.
I sat with one girl for a while so I bought a couple drinks and she was cool. I couldn't tell you her name only because I was drunk, but she had blonde hair and braces so I doubt you could miss her. Cute and kept asking me to go to the room, she was leaving to go home that next day so probably wanted to make some extra cash but I wasn't sure so I passed. I should have probably taken her up but maybe I will see her again sometime.
After a while I left around 230am which is probably the earliest I have ever left TJ. Normally whether I go alone or with my friends I am there until at least 4-5 but I was over it once I figured my friend was MIA. I did go out and look for a street girl I met the on my last trip, in early Jan. and this girl was cute and nice. She worked on the opposite side of HK by another bar but again I have no idea what her name was. I told her she was now my girl friend and she was happy lol...but she was actually very pretty and gave above average service for 30 suck/bang/no clothes. The one thing though that makes me not want to see her again was the room at her hotel was the worst I have ever seen!
Anyway, I didn't find her again but walked down to the corner, going back towards AB, and noticed a little hunny across the street. I was horny so I asked how much and she said 20 so we went back to a room. Again a cute girl but not hot and she was a little cold, like the usual TJ girls. I ended up having an okay session but was a little too drunk so after like 15-20min I was over it, didnt even have to wait for the knock.
Last thing I wanted to mention, and I am not sure if this has been discussed, was that I took my passport because they say you need it now to cross the border. When I came back to the US I asked the border patrol if it was better now that we were required to bring a passport and he said I didn't need one! I was trippin' because all I heard a little while back was that you needed the passport but according to him it didn't matter. I would rather not take it because it would suck to lose but next time I head down I will take it once more and if they say the same thing again I won't take it after. If anyone else hasn't been taking theres I would like to hear.
I may head down in the daytime Sat. or Sun because I have never been in the day so if youre going then send me a message and we can have a cerveza.
[QUOTE=California Guy]Last thing I wanted to mention, and I am not sure if this has been discussed, was that I took my passport because they say you need it now to cross the border. When I came back to the US I asked the border patrol if it was better now that we were required to bring a passport and he said I didn't need one! I was trippin' because all I heard a little while back was that you needed the passport but according to him it didn't matter. I would rather not take it because it would suck to lose but next time I head down I will take it once more and if they say the same thing again I won't take it after. If anyone else hasn't been taking theres I would like to hear.[/QUOTE]You don't need your passport at Mexican or Canadian entry until next year.
Do they know WTF Gin and Tonics are in HK yet?
[QUOTE=Naked Gunz]You don't need your passport at Mexican or Canadian entry until next year.
Do they know WTF Gin and Tonics are in HK yet?[/QUOTE]You don't need a passport for land travel to the US (returning on foot or by car) until next year. If you're flying, you need it now.
After a session with Anna of Mexico City at CC, headed over to HK. Had a few cervasas, sat at the stage. One buck gets you a nice little touch of pussy. What a country.
After serveral girls, out comes Dannie and Kelly (?). Twin sisters. They do a sweet lez show. I could do without the shaving cream. What's wrong with just a couple of twin sisters eating each other's pussies without all the stupid shaving cream.
Anyway, toward the end of the show, some guy comes hunkering down the stage. The girls strip him and he's got the tiniest dingus I've ever seen. Guess I haven't seen a lot, and god know's I'm no porn star, but jesus christ dude, have a little shame and keep it private dude.
Show was vERY hot nonetheless. They go up to the shower thing and rinse off. Best thing about the show? Having the opportunity to take the pair of them upstairs. Goddamn, I felt like a million bucks walking out of there and up to the hotel with these two smoking hot twins. Priceless.
Actually, two bills, but who;s counting. carried on the show in the room, fucked one, then the other. They eat eachothers pussies, but they insisted on changing condoms between them. funny.
Fantastic. The concept is a bit more exciting than the deed, but the deed was DAMN sweet. Goo I love this country!
Hey, Lulu. I was there at the same time you were.
But I was upstairs with the Beautiful Esmeralda. A gorgeous woman from Sinaloa. I did also spent about 2 Benjamins, but what a woman.
I took her to the vip, they charge you .70 for a beer bucket, and two margaritas for the senorita, and you can spend as long as you want with the girl, and depending on the girl you either can have sex there or take her to the room, they will negociate the terms.
But just being there with the one the you chose is a lot of fun. I had a blast.
[QUOTE=Lulu Pussy]After serveral girls, out comes Dannie and Kelly (?). Twin sisters. They do a sweet lez show. I could do without the shaving cream. What's wrong with just a couple of twin sisters eating each other's pussies without all the stupid shaving cream.
Show was vERY hot nonetheless. They go up to the shower thing and rinse off. Best thing about the show? Having the opportunity to take the pair of them upstairs. Goddamn, I felt like a million bucks walking out of there and up to the hotel with these two smoking hot twins. Priceless.
Actually, two bills, but who;s counting. carried on the show in the room, fucked one, then the other. They eat eachothers pussies, but they insisted on changing condoms between them. funny.
Fantastic. The concept is a bit more exciting than the deed, but the deed was DAMN sweet. Goo I love this country![/QUOTE]Are these gals slender with dark hair? If so I came across them on a trip in February. They were working another bar. I forgot the name but if you step out of Adelitas and go right it was one or two blocks down. The place was empty and there was this hawker trying to get me and my buddy interested into doing a pair of young twins. They were good looking enough to do on their own and as a pair would be an experience, but the hawker was so creepy we just split.
My last trip I caught the lesbo show and it was hot. Both girls had smoking bodies and they were into it. If I hadn't already blown my wads earlier I would have gone for either one of them.
Oh well, live and learn.
What is up with that? No way! What happened to bargaing skills? Not put down, just my thoughts. Sorry if I offended anyone.
[QUOTE=Firedsup]What is up with that? No way! What happened to bargaing skills? Not put down, just my thoughts. Sorry if I offended anyone.[/QUOTE]I don't get down to TJ more than once or twice a year, but when I do I'm going for the top shelf. Fucking a pair of gorgeous identical twins for two bills, hell yeah! They earned more than twice that, but was happy to peal off just two Bengies for a solid hour of excitement.
I'll leave you guys you bargain hunters to the 99 cent store action, I'm going for the Playboy club pussy.
Made another quick stop to TJ before seeing my Dodgers get beat 1-0 by the Padres (parked my car at Petco, hopped the trolley and did the turn-around).
Hooked up with "Yennifer" (Jennifer) after she comes up to me at my couch and flashes her pantiless shaven pussy. Lots of mutual touching including requests by her to finger her anus. Finally decided to head upstairs to the hotel.
$40 (plus $10 tip) + $12 for the room + $1 for the towel boy for nearly an hour of mutual pleasure and a whole lot of fun. CBJ/CG/RGC/D to completion for both us.
Have to say that Jennifer is an example of what differentiates some of the "ladies of Hong Kong" from the "girls of Adelitas" - maybe not the youngest or "trophies" but professional providers who seem to care more about the "cock than the clock".
[QUOTE=OCTraveler]Made another quick stop to TJ before seeing my Dodgers get beat 1-0 by the Padres (parked my car at Petco, hopped the trolley and did the turn-around).
Hooked up with "Yennifer" (Jennifer) after she comes up to me at my couch and flashes her pantiless shaven pussy. Lots of mutual touching including requests by her to finger her anus. Finally decided to head upstairs to the hotel.
$40 (plus $10 tip) + $12 for the room + $1 for the towel boy for nearly an hour of mutual pleasure and a whole lot of fun. CBJ/CG/RGC/D to completion for both us.
Have to say that Jennifer is an example of what differentiates some of the "ladies of Hong Kong" from the "girls of Adelitas" - maybe not the youngest or "trophies" but professional providers who seem to care more about the "cock than the clock".[/QUOTE]
Sweet.....very sweet.
I too have had the waiters at HK push hard to sell beers. I don't mind the policy that if you're there you should be drinking, but I've had them tell me I was drinking too slow more than once.
Getting a a bit of a buzz on is all part of the experience, but I like to keep my head together (both of them).
I just tell them to fuck off, in a nice way; take a stroll for a few minutes and go back. By then they've forgotten about me.
[QUOTE=OCTraveler]
Have to say that Jennifer is an example of what differentiates some of the "ladies of Hong Kong" from the "girls of Adelitas" - maybe not the youngest or "trophies" but professional providers who seem to care more about the "cock than the clock".[/QUOTE]
That's nice to know..will take your advice.
My last trip on the 4th of July confirms other postings stating how slow it was on the Wednesday. I was down for some dental work on the 5th so going a day early to monger only made sense. I thought that with fewer gringos it would be a buyers market; but it wasn’t. The alley was slow so I went to AB and got a DFE from a hottie.
I was so discouraged I went to New York and hung out with a ficha babe, Star, for the rest of the night. She is average looking with an OK body. But she is smart and sweet, so buying her a few drinks and having a decent conversation was worth it. So I told myself.
I didn’t plan on staying another night but the dental work took longer than expected and I didn’t want to have to rush across “la linea” to catch a train home. At first it was a local spot, Las Pulgas for some dancing with the locals. Then, like a fly to the light, I went to La Zona. A few drinks with the ficha babe at New York, and I was ready to call it an early night. But something came over me and I took a strolled through the alley. Nothing caught my eye so I went into HK. The music was loud and the babes were 50-50 to guys. Granted they weren’t the trophy types of AB, but the ratio was as good as I’ve ever seen. With beer in hand I watched the dancers. Soon I felt a hand on my crotch. My first inclination was to see what was going on, but I knew there weren’t any guys around me so I held my ground. After a while I couldn’t resist. And there was Dani; from I can’t remember where the fuck Mexico. She has and OK face with an OK body and a bit of a baby pouch. At AB the aggressive ones are the ones to avoid, but there was something different about her. She had a nice smile and a nice way about her.
She started by dancing in front of me and rubbing me up and down, right in front of everyone, with special attention to my crotch. Then we went to a booth in the back and she CG and RCG me. Several times she grabbed my hands to rub her. At first I rubbed her pussy over her panties, she took my hand and shoved it down the front of her panties, right there in plain view. She was already wet, veeery niiiice. We got a bucket of beers and headed for a booth. She continued her dry humping and I fingered her pussy till it was soaking wet. She then talks about getting a room. There was no need to negotiate here. We didn’t even discuss price, the only question was half hour or a full hour. I went with a half and we took our beers with us.
We get in the room and jump in the shower together; the bar was hot and smokey. We lather each other up and have a good time. She definitely liked the attention I was giving her. We jump on the bed and she starts right in with a bbbj. The more I fingered her, the more she got into it. With only a half hour I knew we had to get down to business.
As much as I hated to have her stop licking my balls, I have her put the condom on me and we start in mish then into doggie. She is a moaner and as much as I fucked her, she fucked me. Afterward she did a bit of cuddling, we rinsed off in the shower again. As we are dressing the knock comes on the door. I pay her the usual plus tip, she seemed surprised at first but then I explained how much I liked her blowjob, she giggled and said next time I should go for an hour. She’s right and I tell her so. We grabbed our bucket of beers and head back to the bar where the lesbo show in full swing.
She sits me down on a stool right at the stage and sits on my lap. As the girls do their thing she rubs my cock through my pants as we sipped beers. It was great. After starting the trip with a disappointing AB trophy DFE it finished with a GFE from HK.
Viva la Tijuana
Hey, Guys.
Had A Question For You. About Over A Month Ago I Went To Hk For The First Time And I Met Esmeralda, She Is A Beautiful 30 Yr Old From Sinaloa, Took Her To The Vip And Ordered A Bucket, After Two Hours Of Mutual Touching And Kissing, I Ask Her If She Gives Full Service, She Agreed To Do It Only In The Vip Room, Didnt Want To Go To The Hotel, I Found This Odd. But Agreed, She Is So Beautiful And Hot That I Had No Choice. My Question Is Have Any Of You Had Any Experiences With Her? I Searched The Posts And Haven't Been Able To Find Any About Her.
I Have Been Dreaming Of Going Over To See Her Again, But Due To Funds Havent Been Able To. But Next Time I Go I Want To Take Her To The Room With Me Instead Of Just The Vip.
I'd Appreciate Any Info You Can Give Me On Her.
Thanks.
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[QUOTE=Surfnk9]I too have had the waiters at HK push hard to sell beers. I don't mind the policy that if you're there you should be drinking, but I've had them tell me I was drinking too slow more than once.
Getting a a bit of a buzz on is all part of the experience, but I like to keep my head together (both of them).
I just tell them to fuck off, in a nice way; take a stroll for a few minutes and go back. By then they've forgotten about me.[/QUOTE]
I was there last night. Yes, they are tenacious, and rude (at times).
Not too many people. Several vacant seats on the first and second floors. I always enjoy the music there. They do not play as many Mexican tunes as the other clubs. Did not pull. Headed to AB.
Well I took a newbie friend to TJ and we decided on a last gal for the night. I left him at AB and went to the alley, but it was slow. So I strolled into HK. I like the pumping music, the dancing girls, and the girls who come up and let you play with them for a buck, even if the average gal at HK is not as good looking as the average gal at AB.
As I sat at a barstool, Elizabeth from Michiocan come up, rubs my back, and then rubs my chest. We had fooled around at a booth earlier in the night but nothing came of it except her ficha drink. She is short and dark skinned; not usually my type but she has a cute face. Her body is average, not plump but not fit either. She has a nice way about her.
I buy her a drink and we head upstairs where it’s not too loud. The waiter was mad I didn’t buy a lap dance, but fuck him. They are too pushy there and earlier my friend and I had problems with a waiter not bringing us back change. As we talk we rub each other up and down. After some small talk she let me know she’s twenty years old and has a 4-year-old daughter back home. I think she was warming me up to her physical appearance, which was not too bad, but it let me know stretch marks were coming. It was getting late and I didn’t want to go find another girl, so it didn’t stop me.
We head over to hotel next door. We get into the room and I gave her one of my condoms. It is one of the flavored kinds. She knew then that I want a better suckie than usual, and she didn’t disappoint. It was excellent oral technique along with a lot of ball rubbing. As we moved around to the sex part I stopped her and started to touch her all over. I told her I like to touch and be touched. She enjoyed the attention I was giving her and she reciprocated. It wasn’t long before I rubbed her shaved pussy and she was wet, very wet. I fingered her till she was moaning, biting her lip and gripping my other arm tightly. I kept this up for several minutes.
Elizabeth from Michiocan turned out to be the best sex I’ve had down there. We started in missionary but I ended up flipping her around several times into different positions. All the while I touched her, rubbed her body and occasionally pinched her nipples. As time went on the moans became louder and the bucking became harder, which only encouraged me more. At one point she pushed me back. At first I didn’t know what to make of it. She was wet, groaning and really into it. Well she wasn’t stopping. She swung around and went back to sucking me again. This was a first for me in TJ. As I enjoyed round 2 of suckie it occurred to me that we had been in there more than a half hour, but there was no knock on the door. So before I would be rushed out I decided to finish with doggie. It was a standing doggie with her hands on the bed. I had a good grip on her hips and she pushed back every time, and the moans were now loud, very loud. And still no knock. The more I did her from behind, the louder she was; the louder she was the harder and faster I did her. She was now full-fledged screaming. I was amazed and turned on, and afraid a guy would bust down the door with all her screaming. The real dilemma was that I was extremely turned on and wanted to bust a nut, but I wanted the sights, sounds, and feelings to continue. All good things must come to an end and so did this one.
As she was catching her breath, I took a quick shower. When I got out she was still on the bed, forearms over her forehead, still trying to catch her breath.
I tipper her generously, she earned it. If she was faking it, she deserves an Academy Award along with a Life Time Achievement Award, and the generous tip. As I walked out I tipped the clean up guy. Instead of the usual “gracias” with distain, he smiled and nodded his head yes as I thanked him and handed over the obligatory dollar. I looked at my watch, almost an hour.
I’m no stud but no loser either. I try to stay in shape, keep myself clean and groomed, and I treat the girls with respect. She wasn’t really my type, but it all came together last Tuesday night. Viva la Tijuana.
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Gotta agree with you about the waiters being pushy here, but I really enjoy the girls here better than any of the other spots that I have been to in TJ. I had a great time with Gloria from Mexico City, and it ended with us on the 3rd floor in a booth. For what you get for $20 in the booth, it is a pretty nice deal. After our booth action, I went to the 2nd floor and watched the crazy girl on girl action going on, on the stage. Do you guys know if that is whip cream or shaving cram that they put on the girls while they are geting it on? Because if it is shaving cream, how the hell do those guys start eating out the girls while getting all that cream in their mouths. And also, the guys that are doing the DATY, do they work at the club, or are they just random guys off the street?
Chris H
So after my two sessions at t/b I end up back at h/k. I just wanted to relax before the long drive home. As I was sitting at a table finishing my drink, a chica smiles and waves at me. She is kind of a big girl but I wave and smile back to her. I try to remember if I had spoken with this girl before. Nope, I would have remembered a girl that big.
She comes over and sits next to me. She has a pretty face, but is a big girl. She told me her name but because the music was playing so loud I couldn't understand her. She does wear glasses and has black hair.
Anyways, it takes a while before a waiter comes buy ( which is a miracle at h/k ). But instead of buying her a drink I asked her how much a lap dance would be. She said it would be $20.00usd.. So instead of buying her a drink, I said what the heck let try the lap dance booth.
We walk upstairs to the third floor. I had to pay in advance for the lap dance to a guy, not sure if he was a waiter or not. I believe it is automatically timed because after a while, the lights in the booth lit up to let us know time was up. At least this way, you don't have to second guess if you got shorted a song or two. I didn't time it, but I would say the lap dance lasted about 5 minutes. Still better than a strip club back home.
Anyways, this girl was very friendly in the booth. I could touch anywhere, she allowed dfking. She pulled my cock out of my pants and played with it. She wouldn't suck on it, saying she couldn't do it there. It might have been because I didn't say anything about extra money.
When time was up, I was almost going to ask her to the hotel, but it was pretty late and I was thinking about the ride home. I gave her one last kiss with plenty of tongue and told her I would take her to the hotel next time. She said okay then gave me a very passionate kiss back. It was hard to resist not taking her to the hotel after that but at least I have something to look forward to next week.
As I said before, she is a big girl that wears glasses. Very friendly. Does anyone have any insights for her? She said she starts at 8:00 pm. and works until about 4:00 a.m..
Talk about going to extremes. Zugeey from t/b who is skinny to the max, to Paula who is flaca but not as skinny as Zugeey, Xochi who is medium built, to whatever this last girls name is, who is pretty big. I guess I love them all.
[QUOTE=Quackup]Talk about going to extremes. Zugeey from t/b who is skinny to the max, to Paula who is flaca but not as skinny as Zugeey, Xochi who is medium built, to whatever this last girls name is, who is pretty big. I guess I love them all.[/QUOTE]Ahhh Yes. Every time I go I have a plan to get a spinner, or a busty one, or a blonde, or something. It all goes out the window the moment I head down the Alley and see all the types of girls out there. I love them all too.
So I get to h/k looking for the big girl that I had the lap dance with last week. No where to be found. I asked the waiter and he said she should be in later. I had a couple of drinks and only two other girls caught my eye.
They were both with clients but at least one of the them while going to the bathroom smiled and gave me a kiss on the cheek when I said hola to her. She couldn't tell me how long she would be with her client so I just watched the live show hoping she would finnish soon. I asked her name but because of the loud music I think she said her name was Jamie.
The other girl, I was never able to make contact with her, stayed with her one client all the time I was there. I spent about 2 hours there. It is now about 10:30 pm.., the girl with the glasses never showed up so I left for t/b. I do return later here, that will be on another thread later on.
As soon as I walk through the door, the waiter who earlier I had asked if the girl with glasses was there, saw me and said the girl with the glasses is here. I got a table and he brought her over. Her name is Claudia.
Like I said before, I was satisfied with my session at t/b, I wasn't even thinking of going back upstairs. At the table Claudia changed my mind. A little kissing here, alot of groping there. I finally said let's go.
We get to the room and she goes into the bathroom. I get my clothes off waiting for her. I'am laying on the bed naked as she comes out of the bathroom. She ask for the money. I told her I don't pay until after. She said she doesn't work that way and I need to pay her first. Doesn't look good so finally I told her, either I pay at the end or we end this now. She said unless she gets paid first, no way. I told her okay you can leave. She said she felt wierd because everyone she's been with paid first. Oh well, I thought because of the good rappore from last week, it would be no problem. Anyways, she left, I put my clothes back on and asked the reception for my money back.
He said no refund, but if I get another girl there would be no extra charge. I go back into the club looking for the other two girls I had my eyes on but again they were with clients. The one who gave me the kiss on the cheek was with another client. The other one was with the one I saw her with the first time.
Again a question for those who frequent h/k alot. Do you know this girl who name I believe is Jamie? I take it since she stayed with her clients for a long time, she must be alot of fun. Any insight would be appreciated.
After the fiasco, I took a cab back to the hotel and called it a night. I lost the $12.00usd hotel money. Looking back, since I didn't find anyone else at h/k, I should have gotten a hot looking street girl and use up the room that way. Live and learn.
What Hotel did you stay at?
[QUOTE=Efjayel]What Hotel did you stay at?[/QUOTE]
I stayed at the hotel Pueblo Amigo.
I start today ( monday ) at h/k. It is pretty dead here. Not alot of customers, not alot of girls. Didn't see anything I wanted so I stayed a short time here and took off to l/c. I did return here and will post the experience here later.
It is now about 9:30, I wanted to leave for home by 10:00. So much for that. Anyways, back to h/k. There were only a few more girls than when I left here earlier.
I got a drink and was just about to finish and leave when I saw a girl coming out of the bathroom wearing a bandage around her leg. I guess she was dancing earlier and cut herself on a beer bottle.
She was cute enough so I asked her for a lap dance. We go upstairs and she gave me one of the worst lap dances ever. I could have gotten a better one here in L.A. Nastier if I went to a strip club in coi.. I was so pissed off with her air dance and no fly zone that I cut it short and walked back to my table. I didn't get her name but if anyone was there on Monday, she was the one wearing the bandage on her leg.
The lap dance room was so hot I order another drink before heading home. The second floor where I was sitting was virtually empty. I was sitting at the table next to the womans restroom.
Halfway through my drink, a big girl comes out of the bathroom. Not my type but she smiled at me and I smiled back. She comes over and gives me a kiss and grabs my crotch. Nice introduction. I said what the heck and bought her a drink. She responded in kind. My little head was now taking control.
She speaks very little English but asked if I wanted to go upstairs for a lapdance, or so I thought. I wanted to get the last bad dance experience out of my mouth so I said yes.
Upstairs, a lady wearing all black says it would be $42.00 for a bucket of beers. I'am thinking, I just wanted a lap dance. Anyways the girl I'am with says if I buy the bucket she would make it up to me. ( where have I heard that before). She told me she would get naked, I could touch her anywhere, and to top it off, she would give me a bj. all without charging anymore money.
I was still skeptical but since time was running short and jr. was now doing the thinking, I said okay.
Inside the booth, was just short of amazing. She starts a strip show with me grabbing all I could. She bends over sticking her ass in my face. Thats when I stuck a finger in her gash. She must have been horney because she started to screw my finger. My finger was getting wet, then the door opens and the lady brings in the bucket. Great timing!
Anyways with the door close, we resume where we left off. I started to finger fuck her again when I feel alot of moisture coming out. I'am thinking, could she be? I finger her a little faster and now my whole hand is wet. I place her on the seat and start to daty. Within ten seconds she squirts all over my face, yes she is a squiter. I then finger her somemore and now my t-shirt gets soaked.
This one can squirt better than the one I had before. Pretty soon the table has her pussy juice on it the floor actually has a puddle because of her, I didn't want to sit on the seat because of how wet it was. Good thing I had some kleenex on me. This girl moans really loud also. Good thing there wasn't many people in the club, but if there was, who cares?
Next she pulls down my pants and says do you have a condom. I tell her no so she proceed to give me a bbbj. It wasn't the best, a little rough, but it would do. Half way into it, the lady that brought the bucket in, opens the door and tells my girl something in Spannish. The door closes and my girl say the lady says we can't do that ( bj ) in this room. Anyways, she goes back to the bbbj but I stop her before I shot my load. I didn't have anymore kleenex and I didn't want to drive home all sticky.
So now what, more daty and more squirting. One thing about squirters, they all seem to be multi-orgasmic. Same with this girl and she was loving every minute of it. She must have come at least 15 times. Her last orgasm was the bigest. It must have lasted about 30 seconds. It funny, with guys, the more you shoot, the less you have later. With this one it seem to be the oposite.
Because I had so much fun with this chick and having a problem the last time I gave a name out for a squiter, I will only give out her name by p.m., senior members only.
When I finally got out of the room, my shirt was soaked. Mostly from my sweat, some of it from her squirt. Because when I daty I got on my knees, my knees were soaked with her juices. I had to go the the bathroom to wash up and throw some water on my face. If felt like I went 10 rounds for the boxing championship of the world.
Well, I wanted to go out with a bang, I acutually did. Side note, she did give me her number and said to call her when she isn't working so we could go out and have some fun. Until next time....
On a side note, even though I didn't bust a nut with her, it almost felt like I did. With her squirting, I felt like I was in my very own porno flick. That was about as much fun I could have without actually cuming.
eww, she splooged on your face. :d
by the way, was the lady in black hot? and how did she know the girl was giving you a bj? peep holes perhaps? lol
[quote=efjayel]eww, she splooged on your face. :d
by the way, was the lady in black hot? and how did she know the girl was giving you a bj? peep holes perhaps? lol[/quote]
the lady in black was a little older and imho, not too hot. no peep holes. she just opened the door and caught us in the act. the room i was in was located in the middle of the third floor, not the vip room on the 2nd floor. it was a little bigger than the lap dance room i went into with the other girl.
yes, she shot in my face. after that, i used my off hand to deflect the spray. this was the most fun i have had, without busting a nut.
[quote=quackup]the lady in black was a little older and imho, not too hot. no peep holes. she just opened the door and caught us in the act. the room i was in was located in the middle of the third floor, not the vip room on the 2nd floor. it was a little bigger than the lap dance room i went into with the other girl.
yes, she shot in my face. after that, i used my off hand to deflect the spray. this was the most fun i have had, without busting a nut.[/quote]
aren't you worry about stds from daty and body fluids?
i love to daty too, but not to a sex worker, don't get me wrong is your choice, i'm just curious to read you response on this.
[QUOTE=HornyTraveler]Aren't you worry about STDs from Daty and body fluids?
I love to DATY too, but not to a Sex worker, don't get me wrong is your choice, I'm just curious to read you response on this.[/QUOTE]
Just the fact we do what we do, puts us in danger of catching an std. Regardless if its bbbj,cbj, daty, etc.. That's the gamble we take each and everytime we monger. Although it would be nice to know which girl has an std, even the most innocent looking girl could be carrying. Yes, even though our hobby is a fun one, the risk is always there.
Hong Kong the place where you can get a free bee if you try hard enough.
[QUOTE=One Wing Low]You think she may have forgotten to bring along her pissing pot???[/QUOTE]
Damn, that's funny shit. LMAO. I was thinking the same thing days ago. You just beat me to it! LMAO.
[QUOTE=One Wing Low]You think she may have forgotten to bring along her pissing pot???[/QUOTE]
Owl, Lmao! good one! There is a difference between pissing and squirting. I have had one squirter before so I think I know the difference. If you never been with one, you need to experience it. Its hard to go back to just a reg o for the chica. I won't be down for about a month, but if I hook up with this chica again, I will take her to the hotel to bang her. The feeling you get with the warm liquid running down you legs is priceless. Like I said before, being with a squirter, is like being in your own porno movie. I just wish this chica wasn't so big.
Squirters are THE best. I got a young thing at the TITANIC bar in Guadalajara a few years back and she told me she loves to cum, so I started working her and sure enough, she shot a stream so hard, I used my hand to block the spray. When I looked up, her face was covered with cum.
I loved it.
Country John
If you get a chance, rent or buy a dvd with Cynthera ( sp ) in it. She is probably the master of the squirts. The chica I had, although didn't squirt as far as Cynthera, it was just as powerful. Anyways, I did have fun with the fat chica ( lol ), and thats what counts.
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[quote=one wing low]hi quackup,
i thought being squirted on by a fat chica, with a big belly full of beer, is kind of hilarious, so i could not resist pulling your chain a litle bit. i am glad you enjoyed the humor, did not get mad , and did not 'squirt' all over this forum.
scientifically, females, when aroused, would naturally secrete fluids on the vaginal walls for aiding the penis penetration. any squirting must be coming from the urinal tract, caused by lack of control of the bladder, namely pissing.
i know a few females who have bladder control problems. they would wet their panties on the slightest surprises...[/quote]
she ain't peeing, it ain't [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url]. the word i get is that the sensation is similar to wanting to go [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url] [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url], but it is not [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url].
when the old feller is is erect, it's impossible to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url]. i think it the same with the girls. maybe someone out there (doctor, nurse etc.) could give us a ruling on that. i'd sure like to get it from a medico.
i'm no "medico" but i've read that it is extracted from the same place as [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord109][CodeWord109][/url] so a big percentage of it is in fact [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord109][CodeWord109][/url] mixed with female cum.
[QUOTE=One Wing Low]Hi Quackup,
Scientifically, females, when aroused, would naturally secrete fluids on the vaginal walls for aiding the penis penetration. Any squirting must be coming from the urinal tract, caused by lack of control of the bladder, namely pissing.
I know a few females who have bladder control problems. They would wet their panties on the slightest surprises...[/QUOTE]I've never had a squirter, but friends have and they say it is not [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url], but a clear fluid.
Scientifically, the female G-Spot that activates the squirting, is morphalogicaly linked to the prostate of men. That means that there is genetic linkage between men's prostrate and women's G-Spot. Just as there is morphalogical linkage between the clitoris and the penis.
Maybe there should be a Squiter's thread started.
[quote=country john]
when the old feller is is erect, it's impossible to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url]. maybe someone out there (doctor, nurse etc.) could give us a ruling on that. i'd sure like to get it from a medico.[/quote]
sorry i'm not a doctor...but i do know that i can [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] while erect. my exgirlfriend loved it when i came inside her. she wondered if me pissing inside of her would have felt even better. i explained the difficulty with pissing while erect but told her that we'll try later so be ready. i popped a v and held out using the bathroom all morning. i just kept playing with myself and she watched and did the same thing. when i told her i was ready we went to the bathtub and i started fucking her. it wasn't long before i filled her up with my [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] and she was loving it. i couldn't stand the smell and so i said i'd rather not do that again. to each there own, but i know that's possible.
i've never been with a squirter, but i know a few people who've experienced it. i heard there is a difference in fluid, but it does have traces of [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord109][CodeWord109][/url] within it. i say if the woman enjoys it i'm all for it. at least once.
Found an informative discussion of female ejaculation in the following link:
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_ejaculation[/url]
[quote=gilgamesh]sorry i'm not a doctor...but i do know that i can [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] while erect. my exgirlfriend loved it when i came inside her. she wondered if me pissing inside of her would have felt even better. i explained the difficulty with pissing while erect but told her that we'll try later so be ready. i popped a v and held out using the bathroom all morning. i just kept playing with myself and she watched and did the same thing. when i told her i was ready we went to the bathtub and i started fucking her. it wasn't long before i filled her up with my [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] and she was loving it. i couldn't stand the smell and so i said i'd rather not do that again. to each there own, but i know that's possible.
i've never been with a squirter, but i know a few people who've experienced it. i heard there is a difference in fluid, but it does have traces of [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord109][CodeWord109][/url] within it. i say if the woman enjoys it i'm all for it. at least once.[/quote]
that's funny and hot at the same time. if i was in your place i would continue to do it. not because i would enjoy it but because she enjoys it. for me, i seem to get off more on seeing the girl getting off, than me getting off. so if she enjoyed it then i wouldn't deny her something that gives her pleasure. if anything, it would lead to opening doors to some of my perversions that i would like to do on her. so i would suggest to continue doing it if there is something you've been wanting to try on her but have been denied or have been afraid to ask.
Hey what going on?
I live in TJ and have gone to alot on strip bars in this city. I have notice that most people just hang around the downtown area. There's more bars and girls around town. I usually take people to these other bars on Friday and Saturday nights. I pick them up in SD and take them back in the morning for 50 each.
These other bars don't usually get Americas (gringos) they get mostly local people, but when we show up they know we're there to have "fun".
They charge the same or even lower prices as they do downtown, but they don't get that much action.
Locals just pay for their own beers and sometimes buy the girls a drink, so girls love to see americans come in.
I have been doing this for 4 years on and off, I usually get alot of navy guys, if anybody is intrested. Offrevolution.com
Wednesday was slow in the alley, but it ended up being a very good trip overall.
I made the rounds and then went to HK. Romania, de Michioacan, is a beautiful young gal who was very endearing. We talked small talk. Soon we head over to Cascadas and got naked. Her enthusiasm melted away and she gave a poor CBJ and wanted to get to the fucking right a way. She just went through the motions; it was very disappointing. She’s beautiful and has a nice body, but she didn’t put anything into it.
I made the rounds again, the alley, still no prospects; AB, still nothing to get me interested. A couple of tacos later I went back to HK. I sat down at the main stage and was approached by Claudia de Acapulco. She has a great pair of natural tits and is a bit heavier, but not too big. She is a little older, so when she said she was having a birthday soon I asked if it was her 22nd.(of course knowing I was way under the mark) She loved it considering she said she was turning 36. And for 36 she looked great. I buy her a drink and we talk. Between my sloppy Spanish and her broken English we got along very well. We critique all the dancers that perform. I tell her what I like about them, tits, ass, skinny, full figured, looks. And she fills me in on their attitudes, if they’re nice or not, along with where they’re from and boyfriend situation. She rubs my legs and my johnson and I tell her that’s what I like. She takes both my hands and places them right on her big tits and says that’s what she likes. It’s more rubbing then off to Cascadas. She starts in with an excellent BBBJ. I rub her pussy and it’s very wet. She moaned and pushed back against my hand as I rubbed her. We stared right in mish and to doggie and back to mish. She was enthusiastic and by her wetness she enjoyed it too.
Afterward we head back to HK for a beer and girl watching. To make a long story longer, she changed into her street clothes and we head to another bar one of her friends is working. We dance to Rancharia music and have a good time. When she found out I hadn’t arranged a place to stay for the night she said she would help. I got a room at Cascadas for $30. It was on the top floor away from the noise of the street. We get to the room and the first thing she does is turn on the porno on the TV set and then takes her clothes off. We make it round two. She stayed the night and was sleeping as I left Thursday morning. The start of the trip wasn’t so good but it ended up a good GFE.
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OK, I admit I hadn't been to HK in a looong time. The last time through there was nothing of interest. But that was a couple of years ago and it must have been a really slow day. The last couple of visits have been on a Friday or Saturday and I don't like being forced to by a couple of warm beers just to get inside.
But, I was down in the afternoon on Thursday, and decided to take a look. Well, I can see why a lot of people like it. This place reminds me a lot of what go-go bars in Bangkok used to be like, some years ago. Not exactly apples-to-apples, but still a lot of fun. Lots of chicas dancing in various states of undress, those not dancing running around cadging tips in exchange for touchy-feely-sucky. A couple running around, stark naked and covered in shaving cream, with a tip bucket. What's not to like? If strip clubs were like this in CA, nobody would ever leave the state!
Yes, the B-team must work the day shift. They are a bit chubbier and older than the A-team girls, but nothing repulsive! :-)
So, I grab a seat. It's around 5:30pm. A few minutes later somebody starts a shoulder massage. I don't know if she would want me to mention her name, but it's the same as a very famous Mexican actress. She's about 5' 5", dirty bleach blond, rather fair skin, fine features, a bit chubby, 27yo, 3 kids in TJ, husband split to SD.
Ms S is very attentive, speaks pretty good Ingles, likes cerveza and likes to tell me what she wants to do to me, how much I need a good woman, what parts of my body she wants to place inside hers, etc., etc. :-) She's into hugging and lots of "peck-style" kissing. She told me later that kisses with lots of saliva are dangerous.
I wasn't going to take her, but, after a while, I felt my resolve starting to weaken. She wasn't the best looking of the bunch (but certainly not homely, by any stretch) but she seemed fun. Negotiations were easy, and we settled on $70 for an hour. I finished my beer and up we went.
After getting into the room she insisted I wash my hands, and she cleaned up in the sink. (I've had several girls tell me some variation of the story that they think they'll get sick if they take too many showers in a day. Either a cold, flu, or something. Ms S believes that too many showers on a "hot body" will cause arthritis. Go figure). I reached for my back pocket to remove my cell phone, she thought I was going for my wallet and she insisted that I pay afterwards, and not before. Wow, what a nice change.
Then, after a couple of hugs, things really changed! This went from a nice GFE to an all-out sex slave experience. First she kneels and takes off my shoes and socks. Shades of Bangkok. Then after undressing, she starts with a really good BBBJ, and her deep-throat technique is pretty good, although I'm certainly not that challenging in that respect. :-)
After, she hops on the bed and asks for her oil. Instead, on a whim, I try DATY. Oh, boy. Moaning, squeezing of nips, one, possibly 2 climaxes, serious wetness. When she's done she hops up, says how good she feels and that it's my turn. She puts me on my back and proceeds with more BBBJ. On with the glove and ACG. This is pretty good. After a few minutes she asks if I will f*ck her doggy style. Of course. So, she hops up on the bed on all fours and we go at it. She's moaning and rubbing her clit a mile a minute.
After several minutes of this, she asks if I want to do it the "other way." I figure she means mish, so I say OK, sure. She asks if I'm sure. Of course. So, she reaches back, pulls me out of her p*ssy and sticks me straigh into her azz. Holy, moly! That was unexpected. Now she's bucking more, moaning more and rubbing herself even faster! Finally she asks me if I want to cum. I say I'll try. She asks me to come with her. She finally does, but I can't. :-( I'm just exhausted by all of this.
So, she hops up and asks if I would like her to help. Of course. I lay down, she grabs the oil, off with the glove, and a really nice HJ commences. Then she starts adding in some BBBJ. Finally finish with a partial CIM and I feel like I'm going to pass out! :-)
We lay together for a few minutes. She thanks me for making her feel good, that she appreciates it, because this is her job and she should be the one doing the work. But it's nice for her because she won't have to use her "masturbator" for a while. Then she told me how she liked to use it at night, after putting a porn flick on the TV. Then she assured me she doesn't do BBBJs, but she could tell I was clean! :-) She then demanded I tell her the truth, and I assured her that I had accepted no other BBBJs from any other TJ ladies (which was actually true). Then she tells me that she's sorry, but she really likes anal sex. I say there's nothing to be sorry for!
Next she insists that she give me the massage she promised me, so she grabs her oil, flips me over and gives a pretty decent amateur massage. Of course, near the end the time nazis start banging on the door. She lost track of time, too, and she's surprised. Into the shower for me. She wants to wash up in the sink, but then realizes it's near quitting time, so she hops into the shower with me for a couple of minutes. She's very solicitous, telling me to be careful with the floor. She insists on helping me put on my socks and shoes. This is getting embarassing! She mentions that her ex-husband doesn't know what kind of woman he missed! We settle up for $70, plus a $10 propina for service above and beyond the call of duty.
Stagger back to the bar, collapse into a booth and order water. Say goodbye to Ms S. Nice chica named Anthrax sits with me, I buy her a drink. She's got a nice personality, not much English. She complains that nobody will buy drinks, and that this is the first beer of the shift, and it's now 7:45.
I guess I'm gonna have to make HK a regular stop from now on.
Sorry for the length.
PP
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[QUOTE=Spectrum Tj]Hey what going on?
I live in TJ and have gone to alot on strip bars in this city. I have notice that most people just hang around the downtown area. There's more bars and girls around town. I usually take people to these other bars on Friday and Saturday nights. I pick them up in SD and take them back in the morning for 50 each.
These other bars don't usually get Americas (gringos) they get mostly local people, but when we show up they know we're there to have "fun".
They charge the same or even lower prices as they do downtown, but they don't get that much action.
Locals just pay for their own beers and sometimes buy the girls a drink, so girls love to see americans come in.
I have been doing this for 4 years on and off, I usually get alot of navy guys, if anybody is intrested. Offrevolution.com[/QUOTE]
Risky business if you ask me. When you're out of the Zona and in "parts unknown" you can get caught up in all kinds of shit. You are more vulnerable in many ways.
The Zona is not the safest place in the world either but at least you are there with "like-minded" individuals in a place that is groved into your traffic and know what you want.
I'm not against anyone exploring Tijuana, hiring guides or anything else, but based on some of the reports I've read, most mongers would be better off sticking to the roads well travelled and playing it safe.
If possible, you might post testimonials or provide references since your site and domain were registered September 2007 showing you living State-side instead of Tijuana, this shouldn't be a problem if you've been in business for 4 years. Perhaps after some members post positive experiences it will give you credibility that someone with only 2 posts could surely use.
I don't want to spit in your soup Spectrum TJ, but I do live in Tijuana (Los Pinos for 2 years, Soler for 1) and I am fully aware of how the fortunes of a gringo (or anyone else) and turn on a whim. How do you know someone is not watching YOU? What protection can you offer a "group" of gringos when you get stopped by the cops looking for early Christmas shopping money? Or maybe confronted by people looking for gringo booty?
You don't know if your "regular" bars are becoming familiar with your practices or your schedule and "word is getting around." You don't talk about security or admonish potential clients that they are on their own if things go wrong. The reality is that all you can do is give them an alternative to the Zona.
So provide more information about how you intend to take care of your clients. Know what I mean?
I would encourage you to come back after you have some background to go with that foreground.
Mexico is a whole nuther country with a whole nuther set of rules. NEVER take unecessary risks. Never.
Be Safe and Be Nice
Country John
[QUOTE=Surfnk9]Wednesday was slow in the alley, but it ended up being a very good trip overall. I made the rounds and then went to HK. Romania, de Michioacan, .......... She stayed the night and was sleeping as I left Thursday morning. The start of the trip wasn’t so good but it ended up a good GFE.
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Sounds like she was "de Rancho." Girls from the back country are beautiful and can be great in the sack, but first time out they can be timid. Repeats with them are usually quite rewarding, especially if you handled it like Surfnk9. And even more especially if you treat them right con respecto.
If you take one up and she locks up a bit, be patient with her and recognize that you are dealing with lack of experience, not the unwillingness to do a good job. Just because they work in the Zona and are "pros," that doesn't mean they are "experts." Develop them and you'll always get great GFEs.
Country John
Great repoprt, I think HK is underrated for those of us who want as much fun as sex.
I was there about 3 months back, same time in the pm. I prefer to go pm, it's more a buyer than a seller market.
Yes the girls are what they are, but there are very willing.
I wont tell my story in much details, it just happened about the same way as PP. But at the end, I spent 6 hours at HK, never got bored, got to feel and squeeze los of nipples, asses,m cunts etc for 1 dollar, got to know most of the grils and went up twice for excllent seesions at half price of AD. I understand those who go for the hotties at AD, but my own choice is HK
[QUOTE=Phordphan]After getting into the room she insisted I wash my hands, and she cleaned up in the sink....
Yes, the B-team must work the day shift. They are a bit chubbier and older than the A-team girls, but nothing repulsive! :-)[/QUOTE]I have found that cleaning up just as you get in the room helps the girls feel alittle more confortable, and its just part of common courtesy. One told me once that they are afraid of what might be on your hands after they have been touching dollar bills, beer bottles, and other girls all night. In the summer I often jump in the shower for a quick lather and rinse and have even had the girl join me for some slippery rub downs. Its good clean foreplay beore the dirty deed is done!
Yes HK may not have the number of hotties as AB but they are there to be found if you look and are patient. I used to shy away from the gals who told me they had kids, but on my last few trips las mamas have defintely out performed las mijas.
[QUOTE=Country John]Sounds like she was "de Rancho." Girls from the back country are beautiful and can be great in the sack, but first time out they can be timid. Repeats with them are usually quite rewarding. And even more especially if you treat them right con respecto.
If you take one up and she locks up a bit, be patient with her and recognize that you are dealing with lack of experience, not the unwillingness to do a good job. Just because they work in the Zona and are "pros," that doesn't mean they are "experts." Develop them and you'll always get great GFEs.
Country John[/QUOTE]Now this is the type of info that would have taken me - who knows how long-to figure out, if at all.
Again, a big thanks to you CJ
[quote=phordphan]stagger back to the bar, collapse into a booth and order water. say goodbye to ms s. nice chica named anthrax sits with me, i buy her a drink. she's got a nice personality, not much english. she complains that nobody will buy drinks, and that this is the first beer of the shift, and it's now 7:45.
i guess i'm gonna have to make hk a regular stop from now on.
pp[/quote]pp,
well what happened with anthrax? if you went with her and if it was anything like i got from her, you’d definitely post it. for being in her thirties with two kids she is in good shape.
my last trip i bought her a couple drinks, and then took her to cascadas, first a mutual soapy rub down in the shower and then an excellent bbbj, then a lot of fingering, touching and kissing. she was very wet and definitely into it. the daty sent her over the top, just as she was about to cum i started in on mish and she loved it. it was doggie then back to mish. when she came she dug her fingernails in my back and it left some scratch marks. the knock came to the door after almost an hour and so i told her, con su boca, (with your mouth). she didn’t hesitate and peeled off the cover and bbbj me to completion with a big load ending up on her tits. at first i didn’t like the idea of scratch marks till i was changing my shirt at work a few days later and a couple of the waitresses came in the office and saw the marks. they knew what the scratches were about and had a good laugh with me, as i stayed aloof with any answers to their questions as to how i got them. but it definitely increased my status with the girls.
yes the sex was really good, but she is also nice and we went out and had some fun around town that night. she gave me her phone number so we can hook up when i’m there again, away from the club, which i am definitely going to do.
i’m heading back down at the end of october, the 30th and 31st. its mid-week tuesday and wednesday. if anyone wants to carpool, split gas expense, and have a wingman, just pm me.
ps her name is claudia.
[QUOTE=Surfnk9]Well what happened with Anthrax? If you went with her and if it was anything like I got from her, you’d definitely post it. For being in her thirties with two kids she is in good shape.[/QUOTE]Well, unfortunately, nothing happend with her. I was so drained from my romp with Salma that I had nothing left. I just bought her the one cerveza, chatted a bit, folded up a couple of dollar bills, licked each one just a tiny bit and stuck one to each of her nipples. She laughed and opened up her G-string for another.
She seemed as if she'd be a lot of fun. I really don't care for plastic chi-chis, but I think her attitude would more than make up for it. :-)
PP
Was in downtown SD this evening on business and needed a little relief. Thought 10 seconds about hitting Kia Spa or some other AMP and then headed south to the land of cervezas and senoritas.
I was on a tight timline (could only give myself about an hour or so) and wanted to stay on a total out-of-pocket of less than $100. Once again TJ came (interesting choice of words) through.
Parked in front of the hotel next to the Jack-in-the-Box ($4.00) and walked over the bridge through the noisiest revolving gates in the world to enter Mexico. Down the pathway to the cab station and into a Yellow Cab and on my way to Ave Cohiula ($5.00). Drive let me off directly across from Adelitas.
Took a fast walk around the block, passing my favorite oyster vendor - sorry, didn't have the time for the best $4.00 oyster cocktail ever. Passed by several street girls and their ever-present "Tis...tis" cries for companionship. Even felt sorry for a lonely apparent new comer (or at least I've never seen her) who out-weiged me by at least 40 pounds (and I weigh 205). Had a horrbile thought of being crushed by this one!
Finally entered my destination - Hong Kong and found an average crowd for an early evening. Took an immediate trip up the stairs to the head (noticed the shaving cream show was going on).
Came back downstairs and I noticed that an old time "amiga" was dancing on the main runway - Cassandra of Vera Cruz. We made eye contact and I walked up to the stage and she immediately came over - I gave her the obligatory $1.00 (total spent now $10.00) and was greeted with 2 large breasts and a DFK.
Continued to walk around and immediately when her set was over on stage, Cassandra came directly to me, took my hand to the corner booth near the stage. A long DFK followed accompanied by mutual touching and we were like two high school kids in Dad's car.
Let me pause for a second to tell you about Cassandra - she's is by no means a "trophy date" (probably not even "blue ribbon" to many) but what she is, is a mature, proven provider who takes great care of her client and goes the extra mile (ALL services are available and openly offered on her menu).
Anyway, back to Hong Kong - mainly out of respect, I bought the "feca drink" for Cassandra ($8 including tip) before we decided to head upstairs.
No need to go into the sordid details, but just let me say that it was another time well spent with a woman who knows her business. Multiple orifices, multiple positions, no rush ... ahhhhhhhhhhh! (Oh yes, the cost ...$12 for the room ... $40 + $5 tip for the service). After she cleaned me up, we said our goodbyes and it was border-bound for me. Oh yeah, here's something funny - she even wanted me to "tell my friends about her services" ... must be the reason for this report
Stepped outside the hotel and hopped into a Taxi Libre (I'm a patron of both cab companies) and $5 got me to the line ... except tonight there was NO LINE! Could have sprinted from the drop-off to the door if I wanted to (although with my age and shaped I would have colasped and can you image my wife's reaction to a call from the TJ Hospital?)
Anyway ... another great experience - little more than an hour and $20 less than the maximum amount I was willing to spend.
Just realized something - I didn't even have a cerveza to go with the senorita - oh well, just another reason to go back.
Play safe and enjoy.
Well, headed down for the afternoon on Saturday. Took almost 2 hours with heavy traffic southbound from Oceanside. :.(
Walked to the archway. Got eyballed by a couple of TJ's finest, or at least that's the way it felt. Probably not true, but I'm really paranoid lately.
Skipped my usual beer at Nelson and toddled directly to HK. Seemed really busy for 5:30, but it is Saturday, so.
Got nabbed again by Salma/Flor/Anna (pick a name.). As the Borg would say, "Resistance is futile. ":.) As with a lot of the B-teams everywhere, the looks are fading a bit, but she more than compensates with technique! Really a sweet lady.
She downed 4 cervezas to my 2. But this is one chica where a couple of drinks pays big dividends later.
It was approaching shift change, so we decided to retire to the hotel for an hour. I won't bore anybody with the details, but it was another total full-on porn star experience, starting with BBBJ in the shower, moving on to 69 on the bed, sexo con todas aperturas, huge climaxes by both parties, vigorous post-coital massage and a fair amount of pillow talk. Oh, and a complete refusal to talk money downstairs, with "whatever you want to pay. " Well, what's not to like? BTW, after all that energy expenditure, I would have felt like a complete jerk forking over less than $80 for the hour.
Staggered downstairs, had a quick dance with her in Miami, then wandered out into the street and on to CC for a drink.
PP
Made a mid-afternoon journey to to TJ today and after a stroll around the block looking at the Street Girls (they seem to get younger each visit), I wound up at my favorite destination - Hong Kong.
Saw many of the regulars, including Cassandra (see my last trip report). After deciding to try someone else, I took a walk upstairs to the second level and who do you think I find ... the wonderful Selma. After a little chat, off we go to the room.
As many have stated Selma is one of the best ladies in the category I find most important ... making sure that the customer enjoys the experience.
Up in the room, it was a wonderful experience with Selma doing anything and everything to make me happy - including offering me access to her wonderful ass. (We were doing her favorite position doggy and she asks, "Do you want to f--k my ass?" What do you think my answer was?) It was awesome.
After we fininshed we even chatted a bit - I reminded her that we had been together before following an introduction made by one of my all-time HK favorites - Azul (who Selma told me is now married and "retired" from the business).
All and all, "just" another great time at Hong Kong.
[QUOTE=OCTraveler]Made a mid-afternoon journey to to TJ today and after a stroll around the block looking at the Street Girls (they seem to get younger each visit), I wound up at my favorite destination - Hong Kong.
Saw many of the regulars, including Cassandra (see my last trip report). After deciding to try someone else, I took a walk upstairs to the second level and who do you think I find ... the wonderful Selma. After a little chat, off we go to the room.
As many have stated Selma is one of the best ladies in the category I find most important ... making sure that the customer enjoys the experience.
Up in the room, it was a wonderful experience with Selma doing anything and everything to make me happy - including offering me access to her wonderful ass. (We were doing her favorite position doggy and she asks, "Do you want to f--k my ass?" What do you think my answer was?) It was awesome.
After we fininshed we even chatted a bit - I reminded her that we had been together before following an introduction made by one of my all-time HK favorites - Azul (who Selma told me is now married and "retired" from the business).
All and all, "just" another great time at Hong Kong.[/QUOTE]
"Not Salma Hyak!" she'd say to me all the time.
You know what? I almost took her in a few years back, but after TLNing with her for several weeks, I think she'd be more than I'd be willing to handle on a full time basis. I've been wondering what ever happened to her, and never forgetting the great sessions we had. My wingman had the hots for Azul, and yes she's married off and out of the business - good for her.
I remember taking her to TJ Airport one Christmas when she was going home for vacation. I pulled right up to Cascades and loaded her stuff in the car, bags and bags of stuff. The girls on the street were cheering because they thought I was taking her State-side! LMFAO!
Salma or "Flor" as she called herself for a while (Big rose in her hair) is a sweet girl, genuinely sweet. From Apatzingan Michoacan, she is one of the most unique girls I ever met. I'm glad she's OK, nice to hear she is still delivering those wonderful sessions.
Noobies would be well advised to session her and experience what a great hearted girl from Apatzingan feels like. Treat her nice, show respect and ask her if she's related to Selma Hyak, it sure to get a bellie laugh for you both.
How does she look these days? Did she put on any weight?
Country John
Did you mean, Selma Hay[b]e[/b]k?
[QUOTE=Efjayel]Did you mean, Selma Hay[b]e[/b]k?[/QUOTE]
Yeah, but whoz counting?
I stand corrected.
Country John
I monger the zona frequent but never went into HK, because someone told me is the most expensive bar in the zona, something like $35 beer bucket and $75-$100 for a quicky private upstairs, I figured is just too much money for a body rub and a CBJ.
I don't care for a bucket of beer, don't drink much, maybe 2 or 3 the most in a hot day. I'm just the bar's worse nightmare they can't make money on me with the beer. :D
I've been told that HK is more expensive than AB, but is a good place to finger the girls for a buck but that's about it, going up to the privates is where gets pricey, is this info correct?
Hong Kong can be expensive, but you don't have to buy anybody a bucket of beer not even yourself. The beer cost is about the same as the other top tier places in the zona.
I would recommend never taking a chica upstairs to fuck in those VIP rooms, and buying her a bucket. Instead buy her one or two beers for $7 dollars and then take her to the hotel only. Most of the chicas at night do ask for $80 dollars and that's more than AB, but most of them will settle for $60 dollars. Now some chicas here ask for $100 dollars, and I usually laugh at them and tell them TJ isn't Cancan and other girls only charge $60 dollars and they usually come around at least to $80 dollars.
But again don't take them upstairs to those little room, buying them an expensive bucket of beers, unless you really want to, the hotel is the better deal $30 min between $60 and $80 dollars.
Hong Kong is one of my favorite bars because I enjoy the music and watching the girls dance on stage. But some of these girls have issues and some don't want to go upstairs, so find that out early, and if they insist they only go to the VIP room tell them good bye and pick somebody else as there are plenty of hot girls here more then willing to go to the hotel with you.
[QUOTE=HornyTraveler]I monger the zona frequent but never went into HK, because someone told me is the most expensive bar in the zona, something like $35 beer bucket and $75-$100 for a quicky private upstairs, I figured is just too much money for a body rub and a CBJ.
I don't care for a bucket of beer, don't drink much, maybe 2 or 3 the most in a hot day. I'm just the bar's worse nightmare they can't make money on me with the beer. :D
I've been told that HK is more expensive than AB, but is a good place to finger the girls for a buck but that's about it, going up to the privates is where gets pricey, is this info correct?[/QUOTE]
HK is my favorite of the Big Three. You don't have to buy a bucket for $42, though the waiters try to pressure you into it. Your beer and ficha drink for the girls is the going rate. In fact they have a happy hour of two for one beers in the afternoon. The cost of taking a girl to Hotel Cascadas next door is dependent on the deal you strike with the girl. The hotel is the standard $12 for ½ hour, plus they run porno on the TV sets in the room. The private lap dances and private rooms upstairs are optional, and again the guys try to hard sell you. The waiters are aggressive and pushy. As much as I’d like to tell them to fuck off, I politely say no and get the girl a ficha if I think something good will come of it. Also be sure to check their number when you give then money for your drink. They can leave and not return with your change. Your only recourse to be sure who took your money from you.
The bar is more like a US strip bar; loud pounding music with the girls dancing on the stage and on the bar. Starting at about 8:00pm they have a lesbo show which is novel, and it is repeated at 11 and 1am, or there abouts.
One way the gals make money is to walk around and allow you to feel them up for a buck a shot. It’s a nice way to sample the goods and to entice you. The quality of girls varies and there are some stunners but overall they aren’t as good as AB and CC.
However, I have found that they girls at HK deliver more of a GFE than the others if you establish a rapport with them. Talk to them, ask them about their home and family, and show some interest in them. Show some respect and demonstrate that you consider them more than a piece of meat to stick your dick in, and more often than not you’ll get more than your moneys worth. Sure the place might not be wall-to-wall 9’s or 10’s, but hotties are there. Try it out and have fun.
[QUOTE=Pokey]Hong Kong can be expensive, but you don't have to buy anybody a bucket of beer not even yourself. The beer cost is about the same as the other top tier places in the zona.
I would recommend never taking a chica upstairs to fuck in those VIP rooms, and buying her a bucket. Instead buy her one or two beers for $7 dollars and then take her to the hotel only. Most of the chicas at night do ask for $80 dollars and that's more than AB, but most of them will settle for $60 dollars. Now some chicas here ask for $100 dollars, and I usually laugh at them and tell them TJ isn't Cancan and other girls only charge $60 dollars and they usually come around at least to $80 dollars.
But again don't take them upstairs to those little room, buying them an expensive bucket of beers, unless you really want to, the hotel is the better deal $30 min between $60 and $80 dollars.
Hong Kong is one of my favorite bars because I enjoy the music and watching the girls dance on stage. But some of these girls have issues and some don't want to go upstairs, so find that out early, and if they insist they only go to the VIP room tell them good bye and pick somebody else as there are plenty of hot girls here more then willing to go to the hotel with you.[/QUOTE]
Maybe I am just lucky because I have had good experience in the 3rd level rooms("upstairs"- "VIP rooms"). I guess it depends on the girl you take and agree on service and FULL price before you go. 2 weeks ago, I took a girl to the 3 level room for $20, she agreed to BBBJ and condom sex for $20 for 15 minutes--good deal for me.
30 minutes before we went to the room, I was at the table she was dancing on and felt her pussy 3 different times at $1 tip each (once she let me put my finger in her pussy). After that, we talked price and service.
5 weeks ago, there was an older lady working the club. She put her tits in my face for $1 and offered a BBBJ and cum in her mouth for $20. We never talked about sex. I agreed and went to the 3rd level with her. She gave me a great-wonderful BBBJ and I came in her mouth. She kept her mouth on my dick until I finished. Then, she used a towel. She had taken her top off and I felt on her tits and touched her pussy while she gave me the BBBJ.
As I said, I only tried the 3rd level twice, but both times I was very happy. There was never any mention of buying a bucket of beers when I took the girls to the 3rd level. The girls at HK club are happy to be your friend and treat you nice--if you also treat them nice.
Also, I hate clubs with a ton of guys, therefore, I go to the HK club around 11:30 am and leave by 6:00 p.m. I am in and out of the club during the time I am in Zona looking for young, new, sweet, small body street girls with tight pussies. On my last trip, I found a new young street girl that was great and I have been thinking about her all week--therefore, it is my duty to go this weekend and help her pay the rent!
In the multiple years and trips I've made to TJ, other than a quickie with one of the street girls, HK is by far the best vlaue in town. It has always and will continue to be a better "buyer's market" than AB or CC or any other shop in town.
I never have felt a need to buy a bucket of beer and have always found more than enough providers to satisfy my needs. My "mantra" has always been to treat the ladies with respect and you will recieve good if not great service.
I have paid anywhere from $40 to a high of $60 to be escorted to the hotel next door and 95% of the time I have gotten a good value for my price.
As far as the upstair booths, in my earlier days at HK, I too sampled the booths and the services provided, but have put those trips aside for two major reasons - Reason One: it is a much better value to pay the extra $10 or $20 + the cost of the room and have the lady for a longer period of time and with more room to play and Reason Two: one of my favorite ladies has informed me that for every $30 three song sets, the bar collect HALF of that amount for their cut - I'm sorry but I value their services a great deal more than that.
I'll be heading back down to HK this week for another mid-day party ... happy mongering.
[QUOTE=Pokey]Hong Kong can be expensive, but you don't have to buy anybody a bucket of beer not even yourself. The beer cost is about the same as the other top tier places in the zona.
I would recommend never taking a chica upstairs to fuck in those VIP rooms, and buying her a bucket. Instead buy her one or two beers for $7 dollars and then take her to the hotel only. Most of the chicas at night do ask for $80 dollars and that's more than AB, but most of them will settle for $60 dollars. Now some chicas here ask for $100 dollars, and I usually laugh at them and tell them TJ isn't Cancan and other girls only charge $60 dollars and they usually come around at least to $80 dollars.
But again don't take them upstairs to those little room, buying them an expensive bucket of beers, unless you really want to, the hotel is the better deal $30 min between $60 and $80 dollars.
Hong Kong is one of my favorite bars because I enjoy the music and watching the girls dance on stage. But some of these girls have issues and some don't want to go upstairs, so find that out early, and if they insist they only go to the VIP room tell them good bye and pick somebody else as there are plenty of hot girls here more then willing to go to the hotel with you.[/QUOTE]
During my lst visit, last May, I went to HK during the afternoon and got up to the hotel nearby twice with 2 different ladies for $ 30 each time... Not the stunners, neither the younger, but excellent service for such a ridiculous price.
[QUOTE=Dreams]During my lst visit, last May, I went to HK during the afternoon and got up to the hotel nearby twice with 2 different ladies for $ 30 each time... Not the stunners, neither the younger, but excellent service for such a ridiculous price.[/QUOTE]
It's funny but the next day, makeup romoved, skimpy clothes traded for street clothes etc., you probably would not be able to pick these girls out of a line-up.
When the lights go down and the clothes come off, they all feel the same except for the more experienced girls who happen to be a bit older.
The "stunners" look great on the floor but unfortunately have a reputation for bad service and THAT is what you are paying for. You can look at them all day for free.
$30.00 for full service is an excellent deal if her looks don't turn you off.
Country John
many thanks to [surfnk9] for introducing me to la zona norte, tijuana.
he was a great host my first visit in august. this time he cut me loose and i was on my own during my mongering forays. we met up for meals and tales.
we decided to bring back packs with a change of clothes and consider renting a room for the night, since it is a 4 and 1/2 hour drive minimum with no traffic. we live in santa barbara and my first visit we left the border at midnight after a thorough shake down search by 2 policia (we were the only gringos around at that moment on a wednesday, and no they didn't get any of our money, thanks to having read up on this board! ). we got home groggy at 4:30 a. m.
surfnk9 and i parked in san diego, near the toll booth, after getting the guy to give up a v. i. p. spot for the mercedes, explaining that he had a honda stolen from a lot on a prior visit. he tipped the guy $5.
jack in the box was under reconstruction and looked closed. but we didn't need the restroom.
first thing across the border was a quick visit to the pharmacia for some levitra, 20 mg for $10, and this was not generic, made by bayer. i decided to partake out of curiosity. i had never tried any viagra or cialis before either. i'm 40 y. o. and have been taking dhea o. t. see supplements after reading how this naturally occuring hormone declines in men after age 30. it converts to testosterone, and i have notice my libido has picked up and my overall energy levels since i began 9 months ago.
we saved our levitra until after our luxuriant visit to the viva mex spa on revolucion. $25 for a 45 minute, thorough legit massage, with no extras. my girl had a sweet demeanor and was a 6 or 7. would look cute if she got dolled up, but that's not the point here. i gave her a lot of encouragement during the massage with my limited spanish, "muchos gracias and te gustas. si etc. " also "la musica muy bonita. " it really was a great sound track, kind of new age with marimbas and beats, and good quality sound.
when i went to the shower i took a gamble and decided to trust her not to ransack my shoes, my pants, and wallet and steal from the $450 cash i had with me. my gut instinct was it would be o. k. last time i did take my clothes with me to the shower to be safe, which feels a bit awkward since it conveys a lack of trust to the masseuse. after a long hot soak in the shower, i returned to the room and confirmed that all of my money was intact as i had divided it in hundreds between each shoe and pocket. i pried open the levitra and swallowed it on an empty stomach. surfnk9 and i each tipped our girls $10 and left very contented.
with a little twilight left after the sun had set. we decided to walk to la zona. politely declining the solicitaitons from the storefront barkers. we immediately headed to hong kong for a cerveza. ah the street girls were out in full force, looking cute and sexy, those creamy thighs and short skirts, "ch ch ch" smiling at a few, we walked into hk and sat in a booth with a girl in a bikini dancing a 2 feet away. it was happy hour and we got 4 beers for $7. 50 settling in we didn't fondle our dancer much, but gave her some dollars. she had a great ass and legs, but was small chested and her face was a little off.
suddenly the levitra hit me fast and hard. i felt my whole forehead go flush, felt tingly like pins and needles when a foot falls asleep and wakes up. i felt the myriad capillaries in my brain dilate and felt really stoned.
my vision was also effected, a bit like they portray acid trips in film.
so my foreheads vibrating and i'm feeling nervous and i'm telling myself affirmations that i'll be fine, this will subside soon and i'll have a great time.
a couple girls approach us for tips and i get a really firm hard on instantly, without being touched, which is the supernatural effect and point of the drug. for a moment i wonder if it will subside and soften up. after a few minutes with the girls further away, it relaxes and softens again. that was a relief because i still feel like i'm buzzing hard on a weird pharmaceutical high.
we decided to go upstairs to the 2nd floor, and my legs even feel weird, weak and wobbley. at this point we only had a beer and a half. it wasn't the alcohol. surfnk9 spots a girl he had a gfe / pse the previous time. he had even called her to tell her he was coming. so he went downstairs to intercept her.
i had my eye on a super cute petite brunette with shoulder length hair that looked a bit asian to me. she was small chested but had a great ass and legs, pretty face. she was dancing where the lesbo show occurs later.
i pulled up a stool and tried to engage her but she basically ignored me for some reason. soon two other girls joined her on stage. a friendly hot blonde petite spinner girl with boobs approached me smiling back at me.
she asked me if i wanted to fool around in the v. i. p. for $20. i told her i wanted to get a room and fuck her. she laughed in agreement. we were approached by a waiter trying to hustle the v. i. p. and beer bucket, "why don't you want to go to the v. i. p? " i told him, "because i want to take her to a room. " he understood and left us alone.
she and i started to leave after minimal basic negotiation: "no rapido, no ropas, multiple positions. " remembering my host, i told her to wait at the door so i could tell my buddy what i was doing. i found him and his chica at a booth. we agreed to meet their in 45 minutes to an hour.
she led me to a room in hotel cascades $13 for 2 towels half hour.
she was super cute and sexy, and fun, laughing, kidding around.
locking the door i noticed there was porn on the t. v. i gave her $60 and she asked for $80. i was surprised by that, but didn't let it faze me. i told her if it was really good, i'd give her $10 more at the bar, i needed to make change. she agreed. we quickly got into it and it was great because she was so playful. i put a flavored condom on for the b. j. which she appreciated. then i switched to one of my magnums for the cfs. her breasts were great, nice round grapefruit size which was perfect for her tiny frame. we began mish, and she was moaning immediately, telling me how much she liked it. we switched to doggy with me standing, her on the bed. than she slid forward onto her tummy flat on the bed and i slid in and out nice and deep. i love riding in that position because the pussy gets really snug. after awhile i decided on more mish, so i could lick her nips, fondle her and watch her face. she was loving every minute, no complaints or rushing. i was pounding into her hard and fast and she was groaning much louder than the porn on t. v. for a moment i felt embarrassed that the mop up boys would hear. i was amazed that i could fuck her so hard and fast without feeling like i had to come. remembering how great it felt when she was flat on her tummy i had her switch once more and finished deep inside her. afterwards i was so hot and sweaty, my heart was pounding and i collapsed on the bed to recover while she showered.
i took a moment and found a $10 bill in my wallet which i rewarded her with after her shower. she thanked me enthusiastically, then left, i locked the door and rested 5 more minutes before showering, dressing and leaving. there were no knocks on the door and i looked at my watch after she left and to my surprise our "lengthy session" had only lasted 20 minutes including her shower! my sense of time was all distorted by the levitra. i was happy for her gfe like enthusiasm, although there was no fingering, kissing or bbbj. i left a buck tip for the cleanup guy.
for more see: 5 chicas 2nd visit to tj (part two hk)
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Part two HK:
Returning to HK Surfnk9 was nowhere to be found (he was doing his chica ;-)
I hovered around watching the girls. Still feeling weird from the Levitra.
(I had hoped that banging that spinner girl, would calm me down, but I felt no less energized after launching my first load.)
I went outside to size up the Street Girls and realized how hungry I was. With my jumpy stomach I didn't want to attempt a greasy taco, but eventually I noticed a hot dog stand operated by an old lady and her young son. I barely kept the hot dog down and was wishing we had rented a room already to stash my back pack and jacket, as I was overheating. An hour had gone by and no signs of my friend. So I decided I should have my first street girl experience. After awhile it occurred to me how similar they all are in appearance, especially with the uniformity in dress style. Almost all the same body type, petite with 6 inch heals, nice legs and butts, decent faces, smaller breasts.
So that's the dilemma; which girl to pick, when practically all of them look super cute in that high school girl way? I walked up to Maria from Veracruz who was wearing a black mini and black top with her black hair. She was to the left of HK 6 feet from the door if you were entering. She immediately asked if I wanted, "sucky fucky for twenty?" I asked if she spoke English and she said no, but we negotiated my basic desire for. "no ropas, no rapido, multi position." for $40.
We walked up to hotel Cascades and got a room for $5 plus two towels $2.
Once we got to the room it quickly became apparent I was in for a bad time. I put the money on the counter by her purse and washed my hands in the sink. She proceeded to grab wads of toilet paper tearing them into a dozen or more sheets. She took off her top and skirt, leaving on the panties. Her tits were barely A cups. She applied a short thick condom and spend 5 minutes or more wiping it with the stupid toilet paper several pieces. I told her I had just showered, she didn't understand or pretended not to. She kept cleaning me with different pieces, in an obsessive compulsive manner. Incredulously, I finally started to urge her to get on with the bj. She sucked a bit, still fidgeting with the condom which was only halfway down my shaft. I barely felt any pleasure. She pulled off her panties and laid back on the bed. I mounted her Mish and she kept her damn hand at the base of my cock the whole time and wouldn't let go, I couldn't thrust inside her more than 2 inches and she wouldn't even let me touch the condom to adjust it earlier!! After a few minutes of worthless intercourse, I pulled out and said, "let me put on this (magnum) condom that I had brought." She acted confused and wouldn't let me take the original shitty condom off.
She wanted me to DOUBLE BAG IT! Put my comfortable condom over her half assed shitty one. That was it, I declared that we are done, no more fucking. She says to me sarcastically, "are you going to call the policia?" and insisted I had to pay her anyway. Well I did pay her what we agreed upon, even though it was the worst sexual experience of my life. I figured it was easier to write off the loss than risk her saying something to the mop boys and possibly end up having to talk to a policia officer as I left.
Do you guys think that was the right thing to do? Or would you have refused to pay, or only paid her $20 instead of the $40 she got?
I did tell her she was "no bueno and tu malo." She was such a germaphobe.
I let her leave first and left a few minutes later, the floor covered in T.P. and left a buck for the mop boy.
Totally burned and disappointed by my first attempt with a S.G. I"m reluctant to try that again. Especially since I don't know much Spanish.
Back to HK and still no sign of my friend, 90 minutes have passed. On the 2nd floor I see an American and his face lights up and he realizes he knows me from Santa Barbara! It was Asiangreeklover and we had a 3 some with a girl he works with at my house. I didn't remember him at first and was playing along, searching my memory. We had only met that one time, via the U.S.A. Sex Guide.
We decided to check out Adelita and there were many super hottie implant girls. After one drink, I decided I needed to return to HK to find my buddy.
Finally he was there and I told him I needed to eat. So we got a cab and left La Zona for a restaurant away from the hustle.
We ate at an outdoor restaurant after a short cab ride. I had a beef taco I couldn't eat, the meat was too hard to chew. So he ordered a side of rice and beans for me.
Upon our return we decided to rent a room with 2 full sized beds for $45 on the sixth floor of hotel Cascades. It turns out his Hk gfe rents a room up there with another working girl. I decided to lie down and rest for 40 minutes. So they left. I bounced the Tv and found one English speaking channel and 2 porno channels. I noticed that my heart was racing like I was all adrenalized, and was not liking the side effects from the Levitra.
I left a message on surfnk9s cell saying I wanted to go to a pharmacia and get a Valium to calm myself down. I could tell I wouldn't be able to sleep that night. My head buzzing.
10 p.m. and I reminded myself to be a warrior and ignore the weird medical side effects, I had travelled a long way for the Chicas.
I decided to go to Adelita for some drinks and more girls.
For more See: 5 Chicas 2nd visit to TJ (part three Adelita)
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[QUOTE=Jurassic]Part two HK:
Do you guys think that was the right thing to do? Or would you have refused to pay, or only paid her $20 instead of the $40 she got?
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She didn't deserve a dime but $40 at 15 min. is $80 per half hour. More than most bar chicas giving half way GFE is worth.
[QUOTE=Ninguno Especial]She didn't deserve a dime but $40 at 15 min. is $80 per half hour. More than most bar chicas giving half way GFE is worth.[/QUOTE]
Agreed. Never pay for shit service. Even the dumbest girls understand that one and THAT is why you NEVER put the money in their hand upfront. Never.
But there is a first time for everything and a learning experience to go along with it.
Next time you'll know better.
First you lose your innocence, then you lose your ignorance. All in good time.
Country John
The last time at HK I was at a table with Betsy when a waiter asks if I want to check out THE VIP room. It is the large room above the dance floor where you can be with your special friend and watch the show at the same time. I asked "How Much? " but before he could answer he was gone. Two minutes later he returns with a big bucket of beers and says 77. I protested because, if he had told me the price ahead of time, I would have declined. "OK, how about 42? " What? I politely told him no.
I finally offered to buy him a tequila if he just got me a regular table on the third level. He agreed and I was no longer in a spot.
Buy the way, when Betsy and I went upstairs I had forgotten to negotiate oral. She wanted an extra 20. We had already agreed on 70. Even without the oral Betsy is worth every penny and I will be looking for her the next time I visit. Next time I will be a smarter negotiater, however.
[QUOTE=Country John]Agreed. Never pay for shit service. Even the dumbest girls understand that one and THAT is why you NEVER put the money in their hand upfront. Never.
But there is a first time for everything and a learning experience to go along with it.
Next time you'll know better.
First you lose your innocence, then you lose your ignorance. All in good time.
Country John[/QUOTE]
I agree, CJ. Even long-time veterans have been burned at least once in the hobby, and almost everything I know was learned the hard way (fortunately, I'm a fast learner, lol). If I'd known about the WSG back in the day I could have saved myself some of those "learning experiences", but taking one for the team will probably always be part of "learning the ropes" in the hobby.
Jurassic wrote: Do you guys think that was the right thing to do? Or would you have refused to pay, or only paid her $20 instead of the $40 she got?
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Yes you did the right thing by paying her. You did an SG ( street girl) not a bargirl, SGs are sometimes known to give bad service. Almost all SGs require that you pay them upfront, I'd say 90% of them will ask for the money first, you have no choice but to pay them. But it's usually only $20 or $30 dollars not a great lost. With bar girls most will settle for payment after, or pay on the dresser, AB chicas are worst and many of them will demand money up front. And yes it's best to pay afterwards whenever possible.
Since you still fucked her, even if it was a bad fuck with her cock blocking you. Since you put your dick in her, you have to pay her. If you don't she could have called the cops and told them you robbed her, by not paying her. The cops wouldn't have cared about your story, but rather only care about getting a bribe from you for promising not to take you to see the judge and then jail.
Another thing many girls don't like you using your own condom. There are a few idiots out there that put holes in them, and these girls heard the stories about them, and they trust Mexican condoms, like you trust American condoms, and just feel better using what she is use to.
[QUOTE=Pokey]Almost all SGs require that you pay them upfront, I'd say 90% of them will ask for the money first, you have no choice but to pay them.[/QUOTE]Not to sound like a dick, but I don't agree. You always have a choice. I tend to prefer the club girls, but have had lots of great times with SGs. I have never paid up front. I've been asked several times. I'm polite, but firm. PagO cuando terminamos. They sometimes grouse a bit, but I've never had to pull the plug. I suspect if they allow you to walk, they wouldn't have been any good, anyway.
But you're right about paying something. Maybe not the $40, but I think stiffing them completely might get you some unwanted attention. (But, fortunately, I don't have any experience in THAT regard.) :-)
PP
[QUOTE=Pokey]
Another thing many girls don't like you using your own condom. There are a few idiots out there that put holes in them, and these girls heard the stories about them, and they trust Mexican condoms, like you trust American condoms, and just feel better using what she is use to.[/QUOTE]
In my negotiations I specify that I like a lot of suckie before the fuckie. When we get to the room and get things started I give her a flavored condom, (Son mas saboroso! They are more flavorful!), still in the package and then either she or I open it right there. This way there is no doubt about the quality of the condom.
I’ve been intrigued with this club for a while so I decided to check it out. Got a beer at the door, cruised in and made a lap around the room, up stairs and back down. This is a pretty fun club. I got a seat along the wall, and a waiter came up, took a drink order and asked what kind of girl I was looking for, thin or thick, big boobs or small. I told him I wanted a thinner type girl and soon he came back with a little cutie, short hair down to her ears and wearing a nice little bikini. She sat on my lap and started grinding on me. She was pretty affectionate, with kisses on the lips, I got some good mileage, feeling her nice little tits, and caressing her cute pussy which was adorned with a nice clit ring. But I should have told the waiter that I wanted a girl that would go to the hotel, because after a few drinks when I asked her to go to the room, she just kinda sheepishly shrugged her shoulders. Well after I determined that she wasn’t gonna play I quickly headed out to the alley to pursue a sure thing. Maybe it was me, but from what I’ve read here about Hong Kong, not all the girls go to the room. I guess that needs to be stipulated in advance.
PS, after rtff I am still a bit confused with the multiple floors of Hong Kong. Can a guy go up and grab a seat on the second floor or do you need to get a girl from the ground floor first?
Dcooper: Yes you can just go up to the second floor where they have another stage. They have shaving cream shows with two girls at 11 or midnight.
Thanks for the info Hornygeorge,
I'm as good as there! I've been wanting to catch the shaving cream show for a while.
A happy turkey day to everyone
Went to HK club this weekend, overall I had a great time. But I learned a good lesson on this last trip. In the past, I have taken my regulars to the 3rd level for a private dance which always included BJ and/or sex for $20. This time, I took a tall girl that dance wild on stage and stated she only been working at the club for 2 days. She was ok looking with small tits.
On the stage when I tried to touch her pussy she moved my hand and said she was shy. For some crazy reason, such as "oh she is new, I will be the first to break her in," I offered to take her to the 3rd level for $20. However, before we went to the booth, I did state to her twice that she give me a BJ and she agreed.
Well, to make a long story short, when we got to the little 3rd level booth, she did not want to give me the BJ. She kept saying that she will only dance for me for two songs. Also, she did not want me to touch her pussy and very little touch of her tits. She keep saying she was shy.
I told her if she is shy, she is working in the wrong business and she should sale tacos for a living or work at Wal-mart. Half way during the no touch session, I walked out to leave her putting on her cloths. I saw one of the young mams as I was leaving the 3rd level and told her about the bad service, we both just smiled, she told me to go down stairs and try another (of course for another $20).
For $20, it's no big deal (this is same price I paid for a take-out turkey dinner that lasted 3 days). Lesson learned is that I never take a girl to the 3rd level that does not let me finger fuck her on the stage. All of my regulars have let me finger fuck them on the stage, and thus in the little 3rd level booth it was great fun (which included sex and/or BJ). Next lesson learned, never take a new girl that does not know the ropes.
On the upside, lots of new girls at the HK club. I felt 8 different pussies and finger fucked 3, and sucked several tits, all for $1 each--what a deal! For the first time, I took one of my regulars I finger fuck to the hotel for $30 and $12 for the room. She started the opening bid at $50, and I said too much money. She went down to $40, then to $30, because she said I was always nice to her. I agreed on the $30, the in-room sex was GREAT! Different positions at her suggestion, several BJs, and she made sure I came. I gave her an extra $10 as a tip. Gee, the room is $12 which is owned by the HK club. Most hotels cost $3 to $5, oh well.
HK club is the best deal to be found in Zona Norte. I visited a few different clubs that day and several in the past and it they do not compare to the HK club. At the other clubs, a few girls want to dance for a $1, the hell with that--for the $1, let my finger do the dancing between their legs.
I met one girl in the club and she stated she lived in San Diego for 7 years and was married to American guy. After 2 years of marriage, he left her with 2 kids. Now she works the HK club for cash. Another girl I met in the HK was 19, dark skinned, and very cute. She told me she was from Mexico City.
As I said, lots of new girls, and lots of girls at 11:25 a.m. when I got there. By the time I left at 3:00 p.m., (I was in-and-out of the club during the time period checking out the street action and getting some food to eat), lots more girls and lots more guys by the time I left at 3:00. Nevertheless, there is was enough girls to keep all the guys happy, buying drinks, play with pussies, and going to the 3rd level or hotel.
It is clear that the HK is also getting popular with the Mexican girls wanting to make a fast buck. They are taking buses from all over Mexico to work in the Zona Norte area. Prices are low--if WE make sure WE keep them low. Once, in the HK club, a girl suggested I take her to the hotel for $70, I looked at her and laughed while saying "you must be kidding." She went down to $50, I told her she hurt my feelings because she thought I would pay her $70, I declined all of her offers.
As guys, we must keep these girls in check by not paying them too much. Otherwise, the HK club will become like AB. Bare in mind that I have had girls in the HK for around $30 to $40 to go to the hotel. $40 should be the max for HK girls. $20 to $30 for street girls, which must included sex, bj, cloths off, and at least 1 position.
If a HK girl refuses the $40 max, or the street girl refuses the $30 max, go to the next one. The great thing about Zona Norte, there is always girls willing to do it cheaper then the next girl. When the girls realize the American guys will not overpay, they will be more in line with the standard pricing. The reason why I written "American guys" is because you can be assured the Mexican guys never pay the American high prices for sex.
The following is a public service announcement:
Let's all do our fair share to keep prices low in Zona Norte by refusing to overpay. : - )
Back to HK club, something about sitting at a table, seeing an nice looking girl, smiling at her and letting her see a dollar, she comes over so you can feel on her pussy and play with her tits--at this point, life is good and all is right with the world. Just think if life was always like this, you see a new girl at work, you hold up a dollar, she comes over and you feel her pussy and play with her tits--all for $1 and no lawsuit. <:-O
One girl on the 2nd level that was dancing on the small stage (that was right next to my table) was playing with me while she was dancing. She threw her bra at me, sat in my lap, let me suck her tits (well, you get the idea). After she finished dancing, she sat at my table, at the opposite seat, she opened her legs wide while I was finger fucking her. She started licking her tits, gee--it was like I was a porn movie.
After I stopped finger fucking her and gave her a dollar, she sat there with her legs open wide looking at me while I was looking at her pussy. What is a man to do, the only thing I could, I started finger fucking her again (of course for more dollars). This is my first time seeing her at the club, but next time, she would be a good choice for the small booth on the 3rd floor or maybe the hotel. I like this type of girl for the small booth so I can finger fuck her, kiss her, and kiss her tits in private. If she is like this in public, I can just think what she will be like in the booth or hotel. Needless to say, I like the nasty girls.
Most of the girls in the HK club are very nice, so I always treat them nice. Next time, I will take a lot more more 1's to feel on more pussies and tits, what a great way to start the "fucking" day! ; - }
I spent the night Friday in Tijuana. Was rather slow, reminding me more of a Sunday night than a normal Friday with one exception--Hong Kong was hopping! They set-up a stage outside on the sidewalk and into the street and had each dancer rotate to this stage. They closed the street down and had a large crowd out front. There were tip boxes up front with the proceeds to benefit the Tabasco area which suffered the worst flooding in decades after a week of heavy rain. They were charging 100 pesos for a can of Tecate to get in.
I hooked up with a short gordita named Jennifer from Laredo that was as friendly as a starved cat. Everything was great in the bar, we went over to Miami for a bit more peace and quiet, and then to my room at Hotel Las Cascadas where she was also great, but when we returned to Hong Kong afterwards she quickly spiral out of control. Truly a Loca and not really my vibe. But like I said it was great in the room.
Later I hooked up with a redhead back at Hong Kong with a smoking body. Bought her two fiches while I sucked her tetas ricas and fingered her. Left after a while and snagged a street girl.
[QUOTE=Mike 123].....to my room at Hotel Las Cascadas where she was also great, but when we returned to Hong Kong afterwards she quickly spiral out of control. Truly a Loca and not really my vibe. But like I said it was great in the room. [/QUOTE]
I am interested to know what do you mean when you say "she quickly spiral out of control." Do you mean she was drunk or on drugs?
[QUOTE=Undercoverh]I am interested to know what do you mean when you say "she quickly spiral out of control." Do you mean she was drunk or on drugs?[/QUOTE]
I guess just drunk, but she kept jumping up on the booth seat pulling down her pants and trying get me to suck her panocha. Generally acting way over animated, loud, and crazy. Spilling our drinks and so forth. She was having a great time but I felt very uncomfortable.
I guess I'm just too reserved.
[QUOTE=Mike 123]I guess just drunk, but she kept jumping up on the booth seat pulling down her pants and trying get me to suck her panocha. Generally acting way over animated, loud, and crazy. Spilling our drinks and so forth. She was having a great time but I felt very uncomfortable.
I guess I'm just too reserved.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the info.
I am taking a survey regarding the cost of ladies drinks at the HK club and generally how long the girl will sit with you for each drink--before asking for another? I think the resulting posted responses would be helpful info for all of us.
I have always used the ladies drink as away to sit them down so I can finger fuck them (without them dancing on a stage or walking around the club, or asking me for a $1 every 3 minutes to touch their pussy) and suck their tits. Your comments and response are appreciated, thanks.
I don't have much experience with Hong Kong Club so I can't really say the asking price. Mostly its just a walk through and walk out. But on my last trip I did go to HK and mingled a bit. One girl priced herself at $100 bucks and was persistent to stay at that price. This is how it went down...
I was intent to check out HK mainly because my Tj trips only lead to Adelitas and thought I'd try out this famous place. As I neared Hong Kong the barkers where already waving me in and while I usually ignore them and walk by, I let them escort me through the door so they feel they are doing their jobs. Place was packed and jumping. Nowhere to sit. I walked toward the staircase that leads to the second floor and third floors and found me a place to stand near the staircase and watched the dancers with a bunch of other mongers also standing around. In my previous walkthroughs of HK I never saw anything that came near to the trophy girls from Adelitas. That same applied today. And it's not just the girls faces I'm checking out but also their bodies. They could use a bit of exercise or simply losing a bit of weight.
I saw this one girl dancing solo on a table separate from the main dancing strip. Very cute but a little overweight. I don't mind "thick" girls as long as that thickness looks tight and isn't being overcome by gravity. You know the kind of chunky girl I'm talking about. A little overweight but it still looks good on her. Anyways, she was definitely a chica I would consider doing. But how to get her off the table and come with me seemed out of my reach. She was after all, naked and dancing on a table with some guys there ignoring her and drinking. I don't know if she was able to leave her post so I just didn't bother. There was some other girls in crowds moving around the bar, and going up and down the stairs so I would check them out as they passed by. At times they would even rub up against me as they passed cause of all the crowding. I didn't mind it.
Off in the distance I saw this older chica probably in her mid to late 30's. Kind of cute but not all that great. She was wearing a bikini and walking around trying to catch some of the mongers attention. I went back to looking at the dancers when I felt a hand touch my back. It was her. She then positioned herself so that I could cop-a-feel on her ass and I gladly obliged. She then said that I owed her a dollar cause touching isn't free. I was in a bind because I wasn't carrying denominations less than a $5 dollar bill. And I certainly wasn't about to fork over $5 bucks for feeling up this girls ass. I didn't know what to do so I just replied with, "One dollar!?" She then said I had to giver her a dollar or I could get a lap dance for $20 dollars. Now while I'm not big on lap dances, I decided to break down and try it anyways just so I can experience one of these famous HK private booth lap dances where just about anything goes. So up I went to the second then to the third floor of the club, areas I've never been to before. She told me to give the $20 to the mesero.
We got in the booth and she started the lap dance with pressing and rubbing her butt against my lap. I could feel myself getting hard. She turned around, took my hands and put them on her breast so I could feel her up. She then took off her bra and played with her nipples. I began to fondle her breast. It started to drive me wild so I quickly pushed her whole body towards me which caused her to shriek playfully. I started sucking and licking her nipples and she was enjoying it. She asked me if I wanted a hand job. I asked her if I had to pay for it. $5 dollars. I told her I would preffer a blow job but she said that wasn't allowed in the booth. I agreed with the hand job. But she made me stand for it and face the wall so it doesn't get anywhere but the wall. It wasn't my intention to get off on a wall so I told her I wanted to cum on her tits. She said, "no" because she didn't bring any tissues to clean herself up afterwards. I felt gypped. After some while of hand movements I stopped her and told her I didn't want to come yet but to continue the lap dance.
She brought up that I was supposed to finish and give her $5 dollars for it. I told her that I would have preffered to finish on her tits. She then said that If I go upstairs with her that I could finish on her tits. I asked her how much and she said it would be $100. Surprised, I told her she was asking for a lot and that other girls don't ask for that price. She said that is the normal asking price. So just to mess with her I told her I'd go with her only if she let me come on her face instead. And she was all like, "My face? but then I'd have to redo my make up!" I told her for what she's charging I should be able to get that and if not then a lower price. But she insisted on $100 dollars and not on her face. I told her to forget it. The two songs where already up so we left the booth and she just walked away.
I went back down to the first floor near the stair case again and see if I could hook up with that previous chunky girl I liked. While I was standing there a mesero came up to me and asked me if I wanted a drink. I simply waved him off that I didn't need anything so he left. A few minutes later he came back and said that I had to buy a drink or leave. I looked away and at all the dancers then looked back at him and said, "I'd rather leave." Started my walk out and from the corner of my eye I could see him following me. I walked out the door and left.
Hong Kong, while fun, seems a little too wild for me. I've come more accustomed to the slower paced clubs like Tropicana and Adelitas.
[QUOTE=Undercoverh]I am taking a survey regarding the cost of ladies drinks at the HK club and generally how long the girl will sit with you for each drink--before asking for another? I think the resulting posted responses would be helpful info for all of us.
I have always used the ladies drink as away to sit them down so I can finger fuck them (without them dancing on a stage or walking around the club, or asking me for a $1 every 3 minutes to touch their pussy) and suck their tits. Your comments and response are appreciated, thanks.[/QUOTE]
Sr. U,
LDs at HK are something like $7. Of that, I'm told, the girl gets $3. I don't think they go up after 8:00, but maybe somebody else knows more.
Every girl, in every club, seems to have their own built-in "drink timer." If you know the girl a bit, she *may* drink slowly, especially if you tell her you're short of funds. But, on average, I think you'll get about 20 minutes per drink at HK.
PP
Being an avid Hong Kong goer since I discovered it in April of this year, I know for a fact that the girls drinks are $7 per drink, the more they drink the more they make for them and the club, so is not so much the girls asking for the drinks is more the waiters, coming over every 5, 10 mins to check her drink, and they are the ones that push it more. The best options for girls are the ones that walk around and dance on the little tables, a lot of the big stage performers are more conceded and will sit with you but will not let you touch unless you tip. What I do is I wait for the ones that walk around and offer you a quick dance andif she allows me to touch and kiss her tits and pussy, I stick with that one and offer her a drink and strike a conversation, not letting a moment go by without grabbing tits, ass, pussy, am all over her, they love that if you are gentle and seem very interested in them.
If she does not let me do more that touch her tits and rub the top part of her pussy, I just give her a buck and move to the next one.
Another thing, always ask them if they allow you to do certain things like finger fuck and lick their pussies. As a few of them have told me some guys are very rough with them making them very protective of their privates, one of my favorites has really long pussy lips and she told me a guy once bit her very hard and she was in pain for a couple of days. So no biting guys, unless she says is ok and where!
Remember keep the prices low, one of the posts was suggesting that the girls are charging $100 at Hong Kong, Never pay more than Adelitas unles is more time, dont buy their sales pitch, no matter how much you need to pop a nut, remember the girls outside will charge no more than $40 plus room for all nude, blow job and 3 positions for 25 mins, the women at Adelitas $60 plus room.
The Girls at Hong Kong take advantage of the fantasy we all have to fuck a stripper, and they cash in on it. Dont let them. Some of them are wonderful and very loving ladies but some others just want your cash, keep the price at no more that $60 to $80 tops and this last for Excellent service.
Salaries in TJ are under $2000 US for a University Graduate. And most of these women get their money taken away by their boyfriends, lovers, pimps, etc. so we are not only supporting the girls and their kids but also the drug addict boyfriends.
Stay say keep it cover, and rinse your mouth for Pete's sake you dont know whose tonge is been in that pussy you just ate!
Peace!
[QUOTE=Undercoverh]I am taking a survey regarding the cost of ladies drinks at the HK club and generally how long the girl will sit with you for each drink--before asking for another? I think the resulting posted responses would be helpful info for all of us.
I have always used the ladies drink as away to sit them down so I can finger fuck them (without them dancing on a stage or walking around the club, or asking me for a $1 every 3 minutes to touch their pussy) and suck their tits. Your comments and response are appreciated, thanks.[/QUOTE]
Had a nice time with Lola, very cooperative, although a bit shy. Upgraded to BB for a total of $80. Recommended.
[QUOTE=Lulu Pussy]Had a nice time with Lola, very cooperative, although a bit shy. Upgraded to BB for a total of $80. Recommended.[/QUOTE]
Upgraded to BB what for $80? BB FS or BJ?
He upgraded to AIDS?!!
Sorry, i could not resist that one.
Got Eleanor this time through a recommendation and boy was he right! Super small (90-100 lbs) and stands about 5'2". Small breasts with a killer ass and super nice legs. She does have a "butter face" but who the hell cares. Pulled her down off stage and went directly to a room. No money was asked for before the session so I knew it would be a good one. She has the best looking/tasteing vagina in TJ. BBBJ, DATY, GFE, Multi positions, and not a clock watcher. $50 plus room.
Face: 5/10
Body: 8/10
Performance: 8/10
Be careful out there! See the news report.
[url]http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/080105/mexico_frightened_tourists.html[/url]
[QUOTE=TJ Fannatic]He upgraded to AIDS?!!
Sorry, I could not resist that one.[/QUOTE]Wish I'd posted that!
LOL!
I took a taxi to HK Friday afternoon. When we were stopped at a light three truckloads of federerales pulled up alongside. I know they're the good guys but I still don't like guns being pointed in my general direction.
When I arrived a chubby but friendly girl sat down next to me and I bought her a drink. Her name was Sofia and she asked me if I wanted to go to a booth for $20. She promised Russian so I said OK. When we got into the booth I started taking off my pants and she told me no. She would upzip me. OK, I guess. Well she did, but she kept one foot on the door as she bounced up and down because she did not want us to be interrupted. (I'm sure the waiters would be stunned, STUNNED to find out there may be some sex going on when the door is closed.) Anyway, it was different and I was always wondering what went on there. Now I know.
Later on I got a five dollar lap dance from Dakota, a busty brunette. She was pretty but not what I was looking for.
That girl was Laura. A 23 year old busty blonde who did not quit smiling from the time she sat down with me to the time she left the room. Great attitude, very fun to be with and a smokin hot body. $60 for GFE and multiple positions. She was definately worth the trip to TJ.
Normally at HK I look for Anthrax, who was on vacation or Betsy, who was working late. Laura is now added to my list of favorites.
Freed up my sked and managed to make a quick run on Tuesday, the 29th.
Got to the UETA lot at just before 3:00pm, decided to walk to HK. Walk was pleasant, but the place was crawling with cops. There were 5 or 6 at the west end of the bridge. Great. Managed to avoid them and duck down the stairs. Then, at the light near the wax museum was a Policia picup and 3 or 4 of TJ's finest. They had 4 or 5 derelict-looking locals sitting in the bed of the truck, looking glum. No hassle, and got past and on to El Reloj. Walked down Con. to HK.
Walked into HK, did a couple of laps around the ground floor, the 2nd and 3rd floors. Plenty of room, maybe 10 - 15 customers and a few more chicas. Noted that the average quality of the girls has gone up! Asked a mesero for Salma, but she wasn't working, I suppose.
Ordered the 2x1 beer and sat back. Was quickly approached by Lisa de Acapulco. Had streaked shoulder length hair, the "Indian" sort of nose, beautiful olive skin. Size A cups with great 3/4" nips! Yum! And, of course, that wonderful Latina azz. Maybe about 5' 3". It's hard to tell with those 9" platform shoes they wear. Very little Ingles, but my Espanol is enough to get the job done. I admit, it doesn't take much! :-) Downside is 4 kids, and maybe a bit loose. But, no visible stretch marks.
She had a really sexy way of doing the bump 'n' grind on you lap and moaning softly in your ear. THe obligatory touchy-feely, hand in zipper, etc., went on, too. (Where else in the Northern Hemisphere can you, for the price of a couple of lady drinks and a couple of $1 bills, grope pussies, get the full-body treatment, play with boobies, etc., etc.? Nowhere, is my guess).
Anyway, managed to keep her to 3 drinks in an hour, despite the meseros hustling for more. ONe oddity I hadn't seen was that they brought a plate of cut up hot dogs and american-style cheese to the table and dinged me for $4.
She wanted to go to the VIP, but I said I didn't like VIP, but maybe we'd go to the hotel in a bit. She opined that she didn't really like half-hours and preferred hour sessions. No problem!!
Came time to negotiate:
Quanto por una hora?
Ummm, Cien?
<smile> <shake head>
Ochenta? <pause, think> Ochenta!
<smile> Setenta.
<think, think> Si!
So, off to the room. She quickly showers, which is a nice touch, IMO. Very good smelling girl overall, fresh pussy. CBJ is OK but a bit toothy. I start DATY and the moans turned real. After a while she insists we do 69, w/me on top. That wasn't too comfortable, as I figured I'd crush her! :-) So, after a few minutes I made her get on top.
After almost drowning in juice, we stop, she cleans up my face and proceeds to CG. THen on to mish. Nice finish, a bit of relaxing afterward, then individual showers. Get dressed, we still have about 15 minutes to go. She says HK kinda frowns on hour sessions unless you buy a lot of drinks. Hadn't heard that before, but she says she gets lectured if she spends too much time away. Oh, well, it was almost an hour. Paid $70, then recanted and gave her the original $80.
I'd give Lisa a solid 7 on the looks scale, and an 8.5 in performance. A 9.5 in attitude and friendliness. Overall, a very positive experience.
One weird thing, on the way out of HK she grabs a little robe hanging on a hook at the door and puts it on. The guy at the door insists that that'll cost me a buck. Sh*t. I pay and roll my eyes. She smiles and says something to the effect that everybody want a dollar!
Wandered around the zona a bit, went into CC. This was about 5:15. There were 4 girls along the bar, 2 in a booth, and NO customers. Wow.
Had an al pastor taco and headed back to the border. One cop standing at the Sentri dropoff, but didn't appear to be hassling anybody.
No line, walked right through. The guy at the booth looked at my license and asked if I had a birth certificate or passport. I asked if they were required at this point. He said that he wouldn't have asked if they weren't. I told him that I thought it didn't go into effect until Feb. 1, but he shook his head and let me through. I guess it's passport next time.
PP
[QUOTE=Phordphan]Came time to negotiate:
Quanto por una hora?
Ummm, Cien?
<smile> <shake head>
Ochenta? <pause, think> Ochenta!
<smile> Setenta.
<think, think> Si!
PP[/QUOTE]
Very good negociating skills PP and an over all good read. There are bargains to be had alright.
Thanks!
[QUOTE=Phordphan]......Was quickly approached by Lisa de Acapulco. Had streaked shoulder length hair, the "Indian" sort of nose, beautiful olive skin. Size A cups with great 3/4" nips! Yum! And, of course, that wonderful Latina azz. Maybe about 5' 3". It's hard to tell with those 9" platform shoes they wear. Very little Ingles, but my Espanol is enough to get the job done. I admit, it doesn't take much! :-) Downside is 4 kids, and maybe a bit loose. But, no visible stretch marks.
PP[/QUOTE]PP: I got Lisa myself the day after you (good thing she big on showering :-D~). I went for the 1/2 hora and we used every minute. After I had already cum, she was up grinding that big beautiful pussy on my tongue and was getting louder and louder and closer and closer, but hopped off the second we got the knock.
Very nice girl, almost no ingles, but you don't really need much to get the job done. Recommended, especially if you like nipples big and pokey. I sure did.
Gotten quiet around here.
Hit HK over the weekend. Hoping to find Lisa de Acapulco or, my heart be still, twins Danielle and Gabriela, but no va.
Nonetheless, went with the many recommendations and had a lovely time with the famous Salma, twice. While she's got a few miles on her, she more than makes up for it in attitude and compliance. One of the very best.
Unless you see some chica who's really doing it for you, you gotta give Salma a spin just for a fabulous experience. Everything's on the menu, and we didn;t talk about price at all. I just gave her what I think would be a standard tip for common service, even though the service was top-notch.
a friend and i did a run last night, the 16th. got to the zona about 8:15, did some looky-looing in ab, then strolled over to cc. cc was still virtually empty at 8:30-ish, so we strolled over to hk for a quick peek.
bought a can of beer at the door, did a couple of laps of the ground and 2nd floors. i recognized a tall cutie from a previous trip, luna, dancing on the bar. had her come down for a drink, along with a cutie dressed as a ladybug for my amigo.
got a table, bought a round of drinks and started schmoozing a bit. things were looking ok until we started the negotiating. luna and amiga insisted upon no less than $80 for a session. luna told me that the standard rate in hk was $80 - $100, period. i could get $50 - $60 at ab, chavelas, and otros lugares, but not at hk. she flat refused the standard $60, which is my absolute top end, especially at hk. none of the girls there, as friendly and fun as they are, can reasonably command that kind of money. so, we blew 'em off and left shortly thereafter. looks like the night shift is trying to "unionize" the pricing structure.
just to contrast, we popped back to ab, which was crawling with girls, way too many with too much surgery for my liking. but there were several natural gems in the crowd. one thin, natural bleach-blond cutie immediately, without prompting, quoted $50. my amigo had a really nice session with a chica in a "little bo-peep" outfit, all natural. fs, massage, etc., for $60.
so, anybody else have pricing issues at hk lately? anybody actually pay $80?
oh, just in passing, i popped around back and visited a sg by the name of "mar-yan" or "mar-yam" standing on the se corner of the alley. cute, personable, talked a better game than she could deliver, not worth a separate tr in the appropriate thread. $30 for 30 mins, sin ropa, con todo.
pp
dressed as a ladybug, little bo peep outfit? did i sleep through halloween again? d:
[quote=phordphan]a friend and i did a run last night, the 16th. got to the zona about 8:15, did some looky-looing in ab, then strolled over to cc. cc was still virtually empty at 8:30-ish, so we strolled over to hk for a quick peek.
bought a can of beer at the door, did a couple of laps of the ground and 2nd floors. i recognized a tall cutie from a previous trip, luna, dancing on the bar. had her come down for a drink, along with a cutie dressed as a ladybug for my amigo.
got a table, bought a round of drinks and started schmoozing a bit. things were looking ok until we started the negotiating. luna and amiga insisted upon no less than $80 for a session. luna told me that the standard rate in hk was $80 - $100, period. i could get $50 - $60 at ab, chavelas, and otros lugares, but not at hk. she flat refused the standard $60, which is my absolute top end, especially at hk. none of the girls there, as friendly and fun as they are, can reasonably command that kind of money. so, we blew 'em off and left shortly thereafter. looks like the night shift is trying to "unionize" the pricing structure.
just to contrast, we popped back to ab, which was crawling with girls, way too many with too much surgery for my liking. but there were several natural gems in the crowd. one thin, natural bleach-blond cutie immediately, without prompting, quoted $50. my amigo had a really nice session with a chica in a "little bo-peep" outfit, all natural. fs, massage, etc., for $60.
so, anybody else have pricing issues at hk lately? anybody actually pay $80?
oh, just in passing, i popped around back and visited a sg by the name of "mar-yan" or "mar-yam" standing on the se corner of the alley. cute, personable, talked a better game than she could deliver, not worth a separate tr in the appropriate thread. $30 for 30 mins, sin ropa, con todo.
pp[/quote]
during my last visit to hk, end of janaury, i got 2 sessions with different girls for $ 50. don't remember their names.. arguably, it was during the afternoon, but the place was still crowded. maybe prices increase in the evening..
I had a choice of pulling the rear-end out of my Pinto, or doing a TJ run. The Pinto lost.
Got to La Zona around 4:30. The zona seemed kinda quiet. Did a walk-through of CC just for fun and there were, literally, about 4 people in the place. One chica dancing, one customer watching, and 2 chicas at the bar. Turns out they were all in HK, which was pretty busy.
Wandered through Miami. Didn't know they did the shaving cream show there, too, but they do. I see they've knocked out the back wall and there was some sort of local kind of dance joint behind the curtains.
Did several laps of HK, looking for some faves, but none working that day. Odd. Parked at the bar and availed myself of the 2x1. Waaaay too many guys for the available girls.
Moved upstairs and sat at a table. I was going to finish my beer and leave when a chica I recognized walked by. It was Zulima(?) or something like that. Darker skin, a bit of a belly, long black hair (major turn on), very asian looks, raspy Janis-Joplin-like voice, very coarse manners, but a lot of fun. She's a dead ringer for a bar girl I know who works on Soi Cowboy. Very little Ingles.
After a couple of lady-cervezas we decide to go up. I ask how much for an hour, she says $80. I counter with $70 and she immediately says yes. (I always pay $80 for an hour, but I always ask for $70, on principle, then tip accordingly). I thought it was too easy, and thay maybe she didn't understand.
Got to the hotel counter and paid for the room. I waited for her to tell the guy we wanted an hour, but she didn't, so I did. Once in the room she said that she didn't realize it was for an hour.
"Una hora, cien."
"No, dije una hora, in el bar."
"Ochenta."
"OK" (I was gonna pay that, anyway, as I didn't have exact change.)
So, we start getting comfortable, then tha palm comes out. Pay up front.
"No, siempre pago cuando terminamos"
"No, pago antes"
"No, despues."
She starts to get a bit more insistent. So, I have no problem showing her the money. I pull it out, count it and lay it on one of the shelves with my cell phone on top. There's the money, you get it afterwards.
She goes over, picks it all up, hands me the phone and says the doesn't need my phone, just the money. Then she walks over to her purse. I hop up, and, politely but firmly, tell her no. I take the money back, I put it back on the original counter, I tell her that she can see the money, the money is there, but she doesn't get it until afterwards. She nods.
"Hay problema?
"No, no problema."
Well, after we established who was the boss, everything went extremely well. I think just about everything was on the menu. Certainly playing with the twins, and DATY. BTW, she had, by far, the cleanest, sweetest p*ssy I've encountered in TJ. Anal may have been available, but I only went as far as some digital penetration. She kept grabbing my hand and sticking my finger in, so she obviously liked it. I won't bore you with the details, but some OK CG and some outstanding mish followed. Afterwards she removes the condom and disposes of it (I think that's a nice touch, and lots of chicas don't). Why do they always make some crack about lots of babies? Rested a bit while she sat, mezmerized, by the TV and two white guys squirting all over two black chicks. Quick shower, dress, and we actually finished 10 minutes early.
Returned to the bar and, for the price of a couple of lady drinks, got another hour of groping, diddling, nude lap dancing, snuggling, etc., etc. As Yakov Smirnoff used to say, "What a country!" The magic hour of 8:00 rolled around and the whole place vacated, including your intrepid reporter.
It was time to go, but I needed eats. So, I popped over the the taco stand outside CC and had some pretty good tacos al pastor. Then, for fun, I did a cruise through CC. It's 8:30 and still dead. I had a very enlightening chat with one of the street touts. Maybe I'll post it in the TJ thread. He provided an interesting glimple into the street life of TJ.
That's it for now. The Pinto's waiting.
PP
[QUOTE=Phordphan]
Wandered through Miami. Didn't know they did the shaving cream show there, too, but they do. I see they've knocked out the back wall and there was some sort of local kind of dance joint behind the curtains.
Returned to the bar and, for the price of a couple of lady drinks, got another hour of groping, diddling, nude lap dancing, snuggling, etc., etc.
PP[/QUOTE]
The dance joint in back is Las Chavelas. No need to walk outside down the entire block when going to and fro Adelita now. Just walk in Las Chavelas and come out in the alley through Miami.
Question: When you returned to the bar was the hour of groping with the same chica you had been arriba with?
[QUOTE=Ninguno Especial]The dance joint in back is Las Chavelas. No need to walk outside down the entire block when going to and fro Adelita now. Just walk in Las Chavelas and come out in the alley through Miami.
Question: When you returned to the bar was the hour of groping with the same chica you had been arriba with?[/QUOTE]
Ahh! I thought it looked vaguely familiar (I've only been in Chavelas a couple of times.)
Yes, the G&D was with the same chica. I was looking to relax and have another beer, I'm sure she was looking for a place to perch for a while before end-of-shift (and to cadge a couple more fichas).
Oh, forgot to add the rating:
Looks: 6.5 (from the boobs up, 8.0, below the boobs a 5)
Attitude: After establishing who was the boss, 7.5
Performance: 8
Probability of a repeat: 80%
PP
Hong Kong Club has 3 floors right?
The 1st is like a bar and the 2nd is a strip club right?
How much is it?
Went to Hong Kong, looking for Susana, played around with some of the girls I know, and had a beer checking out the menu, sticking my dollars and fingers tasting the merchandise, I saw Celeste, she recognized me and came over, told me that last time I had been there I had ignored her. I said sorry and what I could do to make up to her, she said get a private dance with me, I'll be really good, I asked if daty was in the menu and she just winked at me. That meant yes. We went to the private rooms on the 3rd floor, she sat me on the couch, and hoped on the sofa putting her pussy on my face, I ate that sweet pussy, bit her long pussy lips and she grabbed my hands and had me finger her pussy and ass, It was incredible, I had both my hands inside of her and was eating her clit, she was moaning and cuming on my face, she took off my shirt and unzipped me so my buddy could breath, she sat on my right leg, and had me play with her clit while we kissed and she was playing with my dick. I had just been with Michele outside HK, and had had a good fuck, but my friend being the glutton that he is was standing to attention. Hearing her moan and buck on my leg was more than I could bear, I had to have her. But the stupid, ******* waiter opened the door, and told Celeste she as up on stage. SHIT. Well, back to the Paraditas it is.
The first floor has the main stage and bar. The second floor has a smaller stage and a service bar. This is where you'll usually see the lesbo/shaving cream shows, though on occasion, you'll see them on the main stage. The third floor has private booths. There is seating on all three floors.
Before 7pm, beers are 2x1 ($3.50). Fichas are $7.00. The private booths are usually a minimum of 6 fichas, though sometimes you can work out a deal with meseros for less. The private room, which is on the second level is 10 fichas.
[QUOTE=Roguesta]The first floor has the main stage and bar. The second floor has a smaller stage and a service bar. This is where you'll usually see the lesbo/shaving cream shows, though on occasion, you'll see them on the main stage. The third floor has private booths. There is seating on all three floors.
Before 7pm, beers are 2x1 ($3.50). Fichas are $7.00. The private booths are usually a minimum of 6 fichas, though sometimes you can work out a deal with meseros for less. The private room, which is on the second level is 10 fichas.[/QUOTE]
So all this charging extra fees starts after 7pm? I've only been to Hong Kong during the day, and never had to pay a cover charge, or fichas to sit in a booth. When do they start charging more?
Sorry if my post was confusing. The only that changes after 7pm is the 2x1. You'll pay $3.50 per beer after this time. The ficha and booth fees are the same throughout the day.
Please explain the "booth fee." As I've never been charged anything for being in a booth except my drink.
I'm talking about the private booths on the third floor. There's not really a fee, but you have to buy a certain amount of fichas, usually six at $7.00 a pop.
You mean the booth where you get the lap dance? I've only gotten in there by paying $20 bucks up front. How do you get in with fichas? Basically you're saying that if I buy a girl six drinks, I get a free lap dance?
Okay, they do have some booths for lap dances, but they also have three private booths which are slightly larger than the ones for lap dances. The private booths are in the center and the lap dances booths are near the stairways on either side.
You're talking about just the third floor right? Cause the way you explained things at first, it sounded like you need to pay to be in a booth on any floor.
Now a few more questions I have, these booths that require 6 fichas to be in, do you pay that up front? Or do you get upgraded to them after having bought 6 fichas? And what if someone sits in one of these booths by themselves? They automatically charge them for the booth? Or if the guy takes a girl to one of these booths, they'll automatically bring her 6 drinks?
Please explain cause your lack of details is only confusing me. Explain from the beginning how someone gets into one of these booths and how they are charged the 6 fichas for them.
It's not that complicated, really. Find a girl you like; tell a mesero you'd like to take her into one of the private booths (yes, on the third floor), and he'll take both of you to the booth with an iced bucket with 6 fichas (for the lady), along with whatever you're drinking.
[QUOTE=Roguesta]It's not that complicated, really. Find a girl you like; tell a mesero you'd like to take her into one of the private booths (yes, on the third floor), and he'll take both of you to the booth with an iced bucket with 6 fichas (for the lady), along with whatever you're drinking.[/QUOTE]6 fichas?
How much is that, and what can you do up there?
All, right that clears some things up. Although, on my quick trips through the third floor, I've only seen the encased booths with stained glass doors, no tables and only big enough for two people. Then some regular booths open to everyones view who would be on the third floor. Are the open booths the private booths you are talking about? Cause anyone can just walk to the third floor making those booths not so private. So which is it? Sorry for all these annoying questions but I'm just curious about how all this works for the next time that I go. Plus I'm bored...
TJmee: 6 fichas = $42.00
I suppose you do whatever you can get away with. You could have full blown sex without paying a dime more, or....you could get played while, somehow, the 6 fichas magically disappear within 15 minutes. Choose your chica wisely. Nothing is guaranteed.
Efjayel: The booths have glass doors, and I suppose that from outside the doors, you'd get a sense that something was going on inside. It's true that a mesero could just open the door. To minimize the chance of this happening, give him a decent tip before you close the door, and tell him you do not want to be disturbed. I always carry a small bottle opener on my keychain, and show it to him, and say that I won't have to have him open any beer bottles.
PM me next time you come down, as long as it's not too late (I work very early), and I'll hook you up with a good mesero. There's only about four or five of them that I really trust.
Roguesta: So if you have sex up there, does she bring a condom?
[QUOTE=Tjmee]Roguesta: So if you have sex up there, does she bring a condom?[/QUOTE]No, you would do it bareback. Just kidding.
The girl can ask any waiter for a condom and he will bring her one.
[QUOTE=Tjmee]Roguesta: So if you have sex up there, does she bring a condom?[/QUOTE]The girls can ask a waiter for a condom.
The booths near both staircases are $20 lapdance booths. The booths near the middle of the third floor are "Bucket" booths, in which you will be asked to buy a $42 bucket of beers. The waiters will try to get you to take the girl here first if they can.
I was in the HK on Friday night. I ran in to Anthrax, who is the big tit girl that walks around topless. Anyway, she recognizes me and I buy her a ficha drink. We are on the ground level and she starts giving me a very sensusal lap dance. At one point she starts biting my pants when, a supervisor comes up and tells her to cut it out. I guess she was acting TOO SLUTTY for the Hong Kong. TOO SLUTTY for the Hong Kong? Isn't that an oxymoron? Are there kids watching?
The Hong Kong is the closest thing to the Titty Twister (From Dusk to Dawn) that I have found. After all I've seen in that bar I was a little surpised. Oh well, Anthrax is a wild child and, before you take her upstairs, you'd better make sure the batteries in your pacemaker are fresh.
I'm sure it was all played out. They want her to do that but in a private booth so the bar can get its cut. Otherwise if it wasn't for the booths I really doubt they'd care.
[QUOTE=Efjayel]I'm sure it was all played out. They want her to do that but in a private booth so the bar can get its cut. Otherwise if it wasn't for the booths I really doubt they'd care.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I think you're right. I've seen guys licking some of the girls' pussies, and the meseros don't say anything.
Anthrax is a lot of fun, with a good attitude. When I see her I usually give her a good tip or a drink. But the giant fake boobs are kind of a turn off, so I've never taken her up. I can imagine she's a real handful...
PP
Remember George Carlin? The 7 dirty words? Shit, [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url], fuck, ****. cocksucker, motherfucker and tit. Seven dirty words you can't say on regular television.
These are considered [B]revenue streams[/B] in the Zona bars.
So when you have a knob gobbler doing her thing downstairs, well.....you're supposed to pay for that upstairs. The maseros don't like the girls "eating the profits," if you know what I mean....
Country John
revenue streams?
By the way, I think [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] is allowed to be said on tv as long as its followed by "off." As in, "[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] off!"
And I definitely know that "tit" is allowed to be said on tv as I've seen it been used.
[QUOTE=Efjayel]So all this charging extra fees starts after 7pm? I've only been to Hong Kong during the day, and never had to pay a cover charge, or fichas to sit in a booth. When do they start charging more?[/QUOTE]Not that they charge more. The 2x1 on Beer, shitty Cuervo especial tequila, brandy and Bacardi Rum is over.
HK weekends at Night have a cover charge of $3. 50 which includes a beer. Once inside you can change it to water, or whatever you drink. Just pay the difference of course.
So they charge you at the door and put a beer bottle in your hand then let you walk in?
[QUOTE=Efjayel]So they charge you at the door and put a beer bottle in your hand then let you walk in?[/QUOTE]
Yes, that's exactly the way they do it. Except sometimes it's a can. :-)
PP
Is HK like AB?
As in you can take the girl to a motel?
Or is it just a strip club?
[QUOTE=Tjmee]Is HK like AB?
As in you can take the girl to a motel?
Or is it just a strip club?[/QUOTE]
Yes, and yes. It's a little of both.
PP
[QUOTE=Tjmee]Is HK like AB?
As in you can take the girl to a motel?
Or is it just a strip club?[/QUOTE]Occasionally you may run into a chica in HK that claims not to go up, but almost all do and typically use Cascadas hotel.
HK and AB are both bars and strip clubs. But HK is more strip club than bar while AB is more bar than strip club. From my experience there is usually girls dancing on poles in HK where only on certain hours is there dancers/strippers in AB. HK is usually popping while AB is more of a mellowed out place(annoying loud music not withstanding). In HK you'll see girls giving lap dances to guys in their booths or getting finger banged and the occasional shaving cream wrestling. In AB, lap dances rarely happen and I dont thing they ever have any kind of wrestling. It's more of a place to sit with a girl, buy her a drink while feeling her up(and usually the feeling up is done above the clothes) then take her upstairs. I've never been a party type guy so I preffer the atmosphere of AB. But if you want an even more mellow place try Tropical. The girls don't even come up to you there. You see a girl you like sitting somewhere and ask the waiter to bring her over. Which is kind of like being a king. lol
Took quick trip TJ last week. The HK was really going strong on a Thursday nite. About six girls dancing at all times. They danced on the bar, the stage and at the tables. They also have a shower set up behind the bar and the girls do their thing inside. There was a tall blonde who held everyone's attention. She was asking $100 to leave to the hotel. I had already done the deed at AB and did not partake. The action was hot and several of the chicas looked good. The place was packed. The Silver Rabbit.
I was in TJ on 3/18 and a big sign said it's HK was expanding so ended up in Adelitas and had a lot of fun.
Anyone been to HK after the remodel and expansion?
Thanks
Expansion?
Maybe they bought off Miami and converting both places into one big place. Adelitas is really gonna have a run for its money. Seems HK has slowly become the "it" place for the Zona Norte. I recall when Chicago Club was surpassing Adelitas some years back but everything suddenly fell and Adelitas once again regained its strenght. Now HK seems to be the new contender. Personally I still think Adelitas has the hottest girls from all the clubs. If HK could get hot girls like Adelitas, it would rule supreme as the #1 strip club.
Hong Kong and Miami are owned by the same person. They've blocked off the room at the end of the main stage. When they're finished, you'll be able to enter Hong Kong at the usual entrance, in the alley, and on Coahuila.
Miami, which use to have connecting doors with HK but no longer does, is now connected to Las Chavelas.
Another thing, HK no longer has 2x1 beers before 7pm. Beers are $2.00 each, and after 7pm, $3.50. I've heard that the 2x1 will come back after the renovation, but I'm not sure if this is true.
In HK there are alot of girls.
3 floors.
They have girls dancing everywhere.
Its a cool stripclub.
Is Las Chavelas also owned by the owner of Hong Kong? If so, they should combine all three bars, Miami, Hong Kong and Las Chavelas into one grand place. They'd rule the Zona Norte if they did. I actually wonder how much the owner of Adelitas would accept to sell the bar. 5 Million maybe? I doubt its worth that much. But if you think about it anyone with a lot of money could go down to Tj and take over everything. Unless they'd get hassled out by the drug cartels or whoever else is currently running the show.
LC (Las chubbies) and Miami are more locals oriented and Miami is more for guys that like to dance with the girl rather than watch her dance. I think the owner would like to hedge his bet so that if rising gas costs or some other reason dries up American visitors even more, he still has local business.
That's good thinking I suppose. And yeah, gas really is a major factor for someone like me. It takes a full tank of gas to make the trip and that's now over $45 bucks! I remember when I used to fill the tank with $25 bucks! Man...
[QUOTE=Joe Avil]In HK there are alot of girls.
3 floors.
They have girls dancing everywhere.
Its a cool stripclub.[/QUOTE]
Only during the real busy hours. Otherwise I've been there when there is only action on the first floor. The other floors will be completely empty.
You got to go from 9pm till 6 am and you will see the shaving cream show the aztec dude dancing with fire I met this cutie in the HK club really cool chick adelitas its cool but if you want some action you go to hk the girls are hot but you have to deal and wheel with the chicks also don't be giving the girls 100 dollars because than they want more money do some pimping and don't be fools laters dudes.
[QUOTE=Efjayel]I recall when Chicago Club was surpassing Adelitas some years back but everything suddenly fell and Adelitas once again regained its strenght. Now HK seems to be the new contender.[/QUOTE]Chicago used to be the #1 club 7+ years ago. According to one of their waiters, it really fell from grace after the brother of the owner was kidnapped and eventually killed in a botched exchange. The owner now lives in the US and fears returning to Mexico. Since he and his family no longer have direct oversight, Chicago has gone into a continual downward spiral since. Or at least that accelerated it.
Bachelor party going there. Was hoping to bounce between hk an adelitas. Grrrrr please tell me it open again.
[QUOTE=Bud Leeeeeeee]Bachelor party going there. Was hoping to bounce between hk an adelitas. Grrrrr please tell me it open again.[/QUOTE]HK is open they are just going to expand on May 7th. It is going to go all the way to Adelitas. It is going to have a jacuzzi and its going to kick Adelita's ass because it is going to be way bigger and it is going to have more girls. I was talking to one of the girls there and she was telling me it is almost done the expansion all they are going to do is khock the wall out and it is going to the other bar all the way to Chabelas side and Adelitas you don't have to go around the whole block any more see ya dudes.
AB's saving grace is that ALL of their chicas will arriba with you whereas with HK many of the more popular girls earn enough in dancing tips, privados and finchas where they dont really feel the need to have full sex with you or quote prices way above the $50-60 normal range of AB and CC. If HK post expansion really gets crowded the percentage of HK chicas who would go arriba in a hotel of $60 or less might really go down. I hate haveing the hots for a chica only to find out she doesnt do arribas or for some riduculous amount like $100
[QUOTE=Joe Avil]HK is open they are just going to expand on May 7th. It is going to go all the way to Adelitas. It is going to have a jacuzzi[/QUOTE]
Would you honestly go into such a Jacuzzi? That froth floating on the top isn't there because of hand soap...
I have been to TJ about 3 times in the last 2 months, and have noticed that Hong Kong definitely has the highest prices for sex. I would find a chica, buy her a drink, then discuss prices and services. All of the girls start off quoting $100 or $80! I always get them down to 60-70 dollars, 70 if the chica is totally undeniable, but it does take some effort.
Why is it that Hong Kong chicas feel they can charge more than other bars? I admit, I like the bar/stripclub atmosphere, but when multiple girls quote $100.
I get sticker shock! Some of these chicas are only average and definitely not worth the money.
If anyone knows the history of this price discrepancy in Hong Kong vs other clubs, I would really like to hear it.
Most of the girls at Hong Kong make their money from dancing and fichas. They don't have to go arriba. That's why they ask ridiculous prices; they know that you probably won't pay that amount. And if you are willing to pay such prices, well then....okay.
I've heard of some girls asking as much as $300 knowing damn well that they would be turned down.
If you want to have fun at a bar in Tijuana, go to Hong Kong Bar. If you really just want to get laid, Adelitas is a much better choice.
[QUOTE=Geo Traveler]
Why is it that Hong Kong chicas feel they can charge more than other bars? I admit, I like the bar/stripclub atmosphere, but when multiple girls quote $100.
I get sticker shock![/QUOTE]
They quote these prices because there are guys dumb enough to pay it, that's why.
I haven't been to TJ since the end of last year, but even then, some HK girls would start out quoting $100, so it's nothing new.
It's just a starting price to begin negotiations, that's all. You don't pay the sticker price when you buy a car, do you?
[QUOTE=Geo Traveler]
Some of these chicas are only average and definitely not worth the money.[/QUOTE]
Quoted for truth.
I've done a hk girl for 40 before, and she was pretty hot I thought.
[QUOTE=Geo Traveler]I have been to TJ about 3 times in the last 2 months, and have noticed that Hong Kong definitely has the highest prices for sex. I would find a chica, buy her a drink, then discuss prices and services. All of the girls start off quoting $100 or $80! I always get them down to 60-70 dollars, 70 if the chica is totally undeniable, but it does take some effort.
Why is it that Hong Kong chicas feel they can charge more than other bars? I admit, I like the bar/stripclub atmosphere, but when multiple girls quote $100.
I get sticker shock! Some of these chicas are only average and definitely not worth the money.
If anyone knows the history of this price discrepancy in Hong Kong vs other clubs, I would really like to hear it.[/QUOTE]
I was there last in January...and I managed to get girls accepting going out for 50-60$. Granted, it was in the mniddle of the afternoon, and there was not so much activity in terms of dancing etc.. but those girls were not ugly, if not the youngest. I had an excellent session with one of those making the lesbian shaving cream show
[QUOTE=Dreams]I was there last in January...and I managed to get girls accepting going out for 50-60$. Granted, it was in the mniddle of the afternoon, and there was not so much activity in terms of dancing etc.. but those girls were not ugly, if not the youngest. I had an excellent session with one of those making the lesbian shaving cream show[/QUOTE]
In my experience, the day shift chicas are less expensive. I've had no problem getting $40 - $50 1/2 hr. and $80 1 hr. sessions. But the night shift seems to think their panochas are made of gold. You have to be three kinds of stupid to fork over the $80 - $100 they expect. There's waaaaay too much competition for that kind of nonsense.
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[QUOTE=Roguesta]Most of the girls at Hong Kong make their money from dancing and fichas. They don't have to go arriba. That's why they ask ridiculous prices; they know that you probably won't pay that amount. And if you are willing to pay such prices, well then....okay.[/QUOTE]
This one girl from Hong Kong told me she never dances on stage for tips. She was into the whole lap dance thing though for $1 or I think she charged $5 but everytime my touchy hands started wandering south, she'd push them away. That certainly ruined the experience. The first time I asked her for "arriba" she quoted $100 but said it would be $60 since it was a special day, New years. I didn't go with her. I went back a few months later and she wanted $50 bucks for a private dance which she obviously said it included full sex(which is odd cause the first time I met her, she insisted sex wasn't allowed in the private rooms). I asked her about going upstairs instead and this time she quoted $60. I mentioned to her that I'd rather go upstairs since the sessions where 30 minutes opposed to only two songs for a private dance. She didn't really know what to say about that.
[QUOTE=Efjayel]This one girl from Hong Kong told me she never dances on stage for tips. She was into the whole lap dance thing though for $1 or I think she charged $5 but everytime my touchy hands started wandering south, she'd push them away. That certainly ruined the experience. The first time I asked her for "arriba" she quoted $100 but said it would be $60 since it was a special day, New years. I didn't go with her. I went back a few months later and she wanted $50 bucks for a private dance which she obviously said it included full sex(which is odd cause the first time I met her, she insisted sex wasn't allowed in the private rooms). I asked her about going upstairs instead and this time she quoted $60. I mentioned to her that I'd rather go upstairs since the sessions where 30 minutes opposed to only two songs for a private dance. She didn't really know what to say about that.[/QUOTE]
Never liked HK for sessions the chicks are overpriced, one thing I learned in the zona is most greedy girls that won't negotiate will provide the worst service in the room just pure mechanical fuck in&out, I always get better service from a $50-$60 than $100 ones.
HK is a good place to relax and finger around and when you get a bone go to AB or the wall.
"I learned in the zona is most greedy girls that won't negotiate will provide the worst service in the room just pure mechanical fuck in&out, I always get better service from a $50-$60 than $100 ones."-Hornytraveler
I also believe this to be true. The higher a price is compared with the market rate, this goes for all areas, the more likely the girl is just trying to dig for gold as opposed to offering any kind of decent service.
I haven't run into any girls at the Hong Kong that would not get down to about 60 bucks, that I have been attracted to anyway, but I know that there are chicks there that would not negotiate. Like others said, it makes sense that this club has more tipping, laps, and fichas then other clubs so girls see a lot more money rolling through and don't necessarily need to hit there lowest mark at first haggle.
Thanks for the information.
Overall my favorite zona club to chill and drink a cerveza, more action going on as opposed to most other clubs having the dancehall feel.
I was going to post while I was in TJ, hoping to maybe meet other fellow mongerers, but alas, my BB wouldn't let me post... ah, well.
I tend to be a creature of habit; I discover what works for me, and do it until the wheels fall off or something better comes along. So lately, I tend to go get a few choice cigars, then walk down Av. Revolucion and cross over to Av. Constitucion at (Calle?)Art 123. I then cruise the the blocks connecting Constitucion, Ninos Heroes, and Coahuila, in no particular order, saving Cjon Coahuila(the chica street) for last... usually.
This time, I came upon a regular of mine, Kristina, who hangs out at the corner of Constitucion and Cjon Coahuila. She's usually good for a BBBJ for .40. Not so pretty, but tiny, and pretty consistant.
Either my tastes have changed(again) or her service has dropped a notch or two, but either way, I wasn't particularly impressed this time, and after finishing with her- I should add, she is very courteous, and carinoso, now that I've been a regular- anyway... after finishing there, I made a bead for HK.
Say what you will about this club- the prices, the chicas, whatever. I love it there. It was about 7:30 when I entered. I always find a table up top, on the third floor, where I can watch the action from a distance, and not be crowded. I like to sit up there, smoke one of my puros, and enjoy the view. Its not without its drawbacks, sitting on the third floor- most of the action happens below, BUT... If you like to wait and watch, its perfect.
Anyway, this time, I sat at the table closest to the streetside stairs, and was propositioned by a few girls to buy them a drink, but I was in no hurry, and prefer to wait for a girl who has a little chemistry with me. This time, it turned out to be a chica dancing directly below, on the standing room only stage(only room for 1 girl, sometimes you'll see two, and its really crowded.) Her name was Lucero. Not the cutest face, but an incredibly tight and toned body. She's probably 20ish.
I tossed/handed a few bills to her over 30 minutes, waiting to see if another girl caught my eye, as Lucero wasn't really my first choice. But she was increasingly friendly, so when the waiter passed by me again, I ordered another water for myself, and a chica drink for her. She was very gracious, but continued dancing on the pole, which was no problem for me, I wasn't in a hurry, and was still scoping the other girls.
After another couple chicas propositioned me, she quickly left the little stage and sat with me at the table. We sat there, not talking much, but petting each other- I was trying to guage how carinoso she was, I really enjoy girls that get cozy and affectionate- she was so-so, not really kissing much, but she latched onto my crotch almost immediately.
After perhaps three chica drinks, Lucero convinced me to get a private dance- lots of grinding, blah blah... and after, asked me if I wanted to take her to the hotel. I asked how much, she said .60. GREAT. I've been quoted .80, and paid, and even did 1.00 the first time I hooked up in HK. But this was perfect. She was young, tight bodied, and fairly carinoso.
We went, did the deed- she was into it, not mechanical, and afterwards, she asked if I was going to go back to HK. I escorted her back to the club, and had an uncomfortable moment inside the door, where I parted company with her-though I don't think she wanted to part with me- I'm not sure, and made my way to the second floor.
After about 15 minutes, she spotted me, and was sitting next to me in front of the main stage of the second floor. I felt obligated to buy another drink for her, and shortly, she was back on the little stage next to the stairs. For lack of a better term, I felt 'claimed,' and she confirmed this by returning to my table. I bought another drink for her, and then made my goodbyes with her- when really I wanted to check out this other chica who was doing the whipped cream bit. Ah, well.
Two pops, one of them quite good, and three(*cough* *cough* yes, three) cigars later, I was ready to head back across the border.
HK is a great place to go, if you're looking to have fun. I have been there with chicas who didn't offer to take me to the hotel before, and yes, I had fun then, too. Part of what makes HK a good time is that it is more of a social environment- and you aren't guaranteed a 'sure deal' with any chica there... but if you're patient, and choose carefully (CAREFULLY), you'll find what you want. You can pretty much gauge what a chica there will do, just by watching.
And you can't say enough about courtesy. And respect. Sure, they're *****s. But all women like to be treated like women. This is what makes the street girls hit and miss- its tough to find out who's going to be a GFE in 2 minutes. But I've found that if you pay attention to a girl, she's more likely to want to pay attention to you.
Anyway, HK is a great place to go, if you want to change gears from the fuck farm of Adelita's. Don't get me wrong, Adelita's is great, too. But it IS a fuck farm.
Stay safe, and keep it cheap
No Z
sounds like Lucero de Veracruz, 19 about 5' 4"-6" 120 no kids, morena skin with dark piercing eyes, prominent nose and a small mouth? She is pretty good and fairly friendly. Not much english and does only do the quick sinkwash afterwards in the hotel. Likes getting eaten out so I made sure I only went with her early in the shift.
However its very possible theres a few Luceros in HK now, so many chicas now and not too many popular names....
[QUOTE=No Zanax]....
This time, it turned out to be a chica dancing directly below, on the standing room only stage(only room for 1 girl, sometimes you'll see two, and its really crowded.) Her name was Lucero. Not the cutest face, but an incredibly tight and toned body. She's probably 20ish.
I tossed/handed a few bills to her over 30 minutes, waiting to see if another girl caught my eye, as Lucero wasn't really my first choice. But she was increasingly friendly, so when the waiter passed by me again, I ordered another water for myself, and a chica drink for her. She was very gracious, but continued dancing on the pole, which was no problem for me, I wasn't in a hurry, and was still scoping the other girls.
After another couple chicas propositioned me, she quickly left the little stage and sat with me at the table. We sat there, not talking much, but petting each other- I was trying to guage how carinoso she was, I really enjoy girls that get cozy and affectionate- she was so-so, not really kissing much, but she latched onto my crotch almost immediately.
After perhaps three chica drinks, Lucero convinced me to get a private dance- lots of grinding, blah blah... and after, asked me if I wanted to take her to the hotel. I asked how much, she said .60. GREAT. I've been quoted .80, and paid, and even did 1.00 the first time I hooked up in HK. But this was perfect. She was young, tight bodied, and fairly carinoso.
We went, did the deed- she was into it, not mechanical, and afterwards, she asked if I was going to go back to HK. I escorted her back to the club, and had an uncomfortable moment inside the door, where I parted company with her-though I don't think she wanted to part with me- I'm not sure, and made my way to the second floor. ....
No Z[/QUOTE]
lol.... yeah, Belgrath, that sounds about right. Still haven't decided whether I'll get with her again. So far, I haven't had the same girl twice in HK. So far. :)
One of the bosses took me for a private tour of the soon-to-be-expanded side of Hong Kong and it was mind boggling. This is a first class job designed to international standards decorated with slabs of marble, granite, stainless steel and tempered glass. Crisscrossing catwalks with double-tiered rows of cubicle style private rooms overlook the action below.
Although I'm friends with the management, I've never stayed in HK for a drink. The meseros are now dressed in some corny uniform consisting of what appears to be used Cal-Trans day-glow safety vests with no shirts underneath and plastic hardhats. With staff attired like members of the Village People, this creates an uncomfortable atmosphere. It's hard to figure what they are thinking on this one.
Although the interior construction on the new side appeared far from finished, I counted fifty workers supposedly on double shifts. Ordinarily, I'd guess them a month away from total completion but my friend insisted they'd be done and open for Wednesday evening's Grand Opening. A big-time Mexican film star is supposed to make an appearance.
You mean this Wednesday May 7th? And what big time Mexican Film star?
[QUOTE=Efjayel]You mean this Wednesday May 7th? And what big time Mexican Film star?[/QUOTE]
Yes, this Wednesday. Normally, I'd say that this is impossible given the stage of construction when I checked it out Thursday but my friend was adamant and there were fifty guys working hard. I don't remember the name of the actress but he seemed pretty proud that she was coming. He also claimed that a whole new string of dancers would be on duty.
Considering that they are more than doubling the size of HK in one night, they would need a shitload of new talent. I'm curious to see if that turns out to be mostly gorditas or if they've done some serious recruiting. This renovation has to be close to a million bucks. Labor may be cheap but they used expensive materials. The start-from-scratch design was impressive as most renovations in TJ are just patchwork.
Nice, so this Wednesday the other part of hongkong will be open, cause I am actually gonna be down there LOL. What time will the actress be there?
So did they make the Wednesday deadline?
No, they didn't. But, I was told, last night, by one of the meseros, that they will open it up tonight at 8pm. I'm planning to be there.
Cool, please share impressions.
I left early. I'll go back tomorrow. The bad news is that beers are $3.50, even before 7pm. That's on Fridays, Saturdays, and Sundays. On Monday through Thursday, it'll still be $2.
It was just too crowded for me to really get into it.
So you left before the unveiling?
Beers go for $3.50? Didn't they always? Far as I know bottled water is also $3.50.
Well actually I spend about $5 for water once tip is included. Which I find very expensive. This goes the same for purchasing bottled water at all the other bars as well. Am I getting ripped off here? I should start sneaking in bottled water.
It use to be $3.50 for two beers before 7pm. Then, they changed it to $2 per beer before 7pm. Now, it's $3.50 per beer at all times Friday through Sunday. I think that water is $3.50 at all times.
Nothing happened at all, same HK.
They do have more girls though.
[QUOTE=Efjayel]I should start sneaking in bottled water.[/QUOTE]
You're joking, right?
Still 2 beers for the price of 1 before 7pm though ain't it?
Don't tell me they snubbed the draw.
No, the 2x1s are over. I'm walking there in about ten minutes, and will let you know if they did finally open the other side. Someone else said that they did not, last night, which is surprising because there was definitely a party atmosphere with balloons everywhere.
[QUOTE=Roguesta]No, the 2x1s are over. I'm walking there in about ten minutes, and will let you know if they did finally open the other side. Someone else said that they did not, last night, which is surprising because there was definitely a party atmosphere with balloons everywhere.[/QUOTE]They did open up, but it was later than the time that they were announcing earlier in the week. They didn't let people in until much later I'm told. I had left before they let people in, but I saw it when the maseros and girls were going in, and it looked real good.
Well, they did open the other side, and I have to say that I am impressed. Hong Kong Bar has, at least, tripled in size. There's another large stage. Next to the stage is a jacuzzi. There was a lesbian show going on in the jacuzzi. There's also another shower with a large dragon on top.
On the second level are seven private booths. Catwalks are everywhere. You really have to watch your step. There's a smaller bar a couple of steps up from the second level.
Of course, there are television screens everywhere, but above the bar are nine screens in rows of threes. They are not hooked up, yet. I'm imagining many different sporting events at the same time sprinkled with some music videos.
There was a good crowd, but then, I was a Saturday. I don't know what it will be like on a Tuesday. At least the beers will be cheaper. I ran into a friend. His girlfriend works at Adelitas. His prediction is that many of the girls from Adelitas will defect, and move to HK. He could be right.
I don't know about ab girls defecting just because ab has a lot of girls and then there will be fights between the girls, and hk is more of like a strip/lapdance/bar area whereas ab seems to be more of a bar and go upstairs kinda spot.
I'd really like to check out the new Hong Kong. It's true that the atmosphere in Ab is different from HK. HK is definitely more strip bar, while AB is more hang out bar. Unless HK conforms a separate area of the newly expanded bar to be more relaxed hang out area, then the AB girls will switch over to HK and stay in the hang bar area and only the wild girls will want to do the stripping dance pole part. This would cause AB to turn into another club that once had its heyday like Chicago Club is now. :(
Roguesta,
How much does your friends girlfriend make a week at AB?
Why would a guy get into a serious relationship with a prostitute? Either he doesn't really like her, is getting some kind of kick back from her earnings(a pimp), or has a bad view on relationships. Or maybe all of those things. I know I shouldn't be judging a person but I just see that as odd.
Some of these girls, the nice ones I would be in a relationship with, but obviously I wouldn't want them to continue doing what they do.
Tjmee: I honestly do not know how much she makes. She's popular, so my guess would be a lot.
Efjayel: I guess we're all different. I'll tell you this, he seems to be really enjoying life. She's a part of his life, but not his entire life. They do live together. He's in his early thirties, and I don't think he sees her as 'the one'.
Do you have a pic of her?
If she is popular.
Just went to HK for a little bit and saw how much it has expanded, the street ab is on is where all the new remodeling happened, theres a bar to the left and stairt that go up to the right and theres like couchs all around the floor and if you keep going straight thats where the other side of hk is, the one were use to. More girls, look a better then I would say ab. But ab has more girls over all.
It appears that only the 1st & 2nd floors are finished. They are working on the 3rd level which will take a lot of work IMO.
[QUOTE=Efjayel]Why would a guy get into a serious relationship with a prostitute? [/QUOTE]
Hey, for starts they have something in common. She is a puta & he is a monger. These "roles" they are playing on the "stage of life" are not significant in the cosmic scheme of things really. Yes, the roles present certain challenges that say an accountant and attorney would not have if they say met in court on opposite sides but still it is all part of the drama of life.
I'm not saying it is a good idea to have a serious relationship with a hooker. 99.9% it is a bad idea but there is always the chance that they were meant to be together. (Where is Country John when you need him?)
Well, a relationship with a prostitute can lead to an unforgettable relationship. You all remember Leaving Las Vegas right? :rolleyes:
if it wasn't before, hk is now the best bar in the zona. went there last night. they have a whole slew of new girls who are better than anything ab has to offer, what with their toilet paper condom wi****wns and limited extras.
libra, isabella, and vanessa were all there last night. do not miss out on the new hk!
They are all hoes, the price differs and the discovery can be embarrassing but yes, they are all hoes. At least he knows how much it will/might cost him! Now there's a first. If he's a regular on here, I'd be interested in his reaction to her "reviews".
[quote=lakers02]if it wasn't before, hk is now the best bar in the zona. went there last night. they have a whole slew of new girls who are better than anything ab has to offer, what with their toilet paper condom wi****wns and limited extras.
libra, isabella, and vanessa were all there last night. do not miss out on the new hk![/quote]
man, i really need to go check out the new hong kong. but i think i'll wait until the whole place is completely done. although, i'm worried about my adelitas. it's my bar and place of joy. if it becomes another lonely place like chicago club, i just might start crying. but in all truth, the owner of adelitas must realize by now that he's got some good competition in front of him and that its time to up the stakes. he should have known that the first time hong kong remodeled. wait i think it did recently change but nothing drastic like hong kong has been doing. he better act and quick!
[QUOTE=Efjayel] Although, I'm worried about my Adelitas. It's my bar and place of joy. If it becomes another lonely place like Chicago Club, I just might start crying. [/QUOTE]
I hear ya but save those tears por favor. There are plenty of chicas at CC who like the slow pace very much. They realize that they could go up 3 to 5 or more times per night at Adelitas or other bars but they prefer not.
They have their regulars, work in a few out dates, collect some fichas and are very happy. Granted there are some at CC starving and sometimes go home less the cab fare it cost to get to work. They too, have a choice of staying or leaving. Some leave but plenty stay and new ones are coming in daily.
I hope CC stays basically the same. My only concern is for those who are really good quality providers and as far as putas go basically good honest people who are not making a decent living due to the over all slow down of gringos going to TJ.
I wonder if with HK expansion, and the need for more chicas, if the street girls will move up in status to the clubs. Maybe not HK but to the others when those chicas bail? I am not sure how the order of progression, if there is one, works.
Before you make a special trip to see the new Hong Kong, realize that they are still remodeling. I was there a while ago, and the new part was closed. They had placed a tarp between the two sections.
My guess is that, for now, both sides will be open during the weekends, and only the old part open during the week, That is, until the remodeling is finished.
I stopped in to see the new section on Tuesday night and it was blocked by the tarp as Roguesta suggested.
I juggled my schedule and took the day off on Tuesday. Luckily, it turned out to be good weather.
Go to the border at 1:15. It was nice, so I decided to walk to La Zona. It's only about 15 minutes walk from the UETA lot.
I wanted to check out the new HK, so went past AB to check out the new front door. Wow. Fancy frosted glass doors, big sign above saying the grand opening is May 23.
I walked in the front door, past the guys working, and looked around. It looks a lot like the old part, in that there are 3 levels, balconies, etc. But it's nicer and a lot newer. The stairs don't appear as steep, either. It looks like it's going to be really nice, but they're going to need a lot of girls to staff it.
After getting an eyeful, I went outside and around to the back. The halves are separated by a tarp, and they won't let you through. There seemed to be a lot of girls there, or maybe they were more visible. It looked a lot like a Thailand bar, in that there were bunches of girls on the "stage" dancing, both on the first and second floors. After a lap I literally bumped into the Divine Ms. S. Resistance is futile!
So, we retired to the 3rd floor and ordered cervezas. The waiter brought them, I paid with a 20, he brought back the change. It seemed about $1.5 light. When it came time for the next round, he broght the correct change. Then the light bulb came on. (I'm a bit slow) He'd charged me $1.50 for the stupid little bag of Cheetos that he'd laid on the table the first time. I didn't ask for, or want them. Oh, well. It appears that beers are $3, and the 2x1 is gone. LDs are still $7.
After some chit-chat and 3 for her, 2 for me, we decide to retire. There is some major construction going on in Cascadas, so some of the rooms, including the one we got, are really, really noisy. Lots of thumping and banging.
After her quick clean-up in the sink (where are the SEA girls when you need them?) she proceeded to deliver a fine BBBJ, first standing, then on the bed. I could get used to this. After about 10 minutes it was time for DATY. She spent the next 15 - 20 minutes, and 2 positions, making a huge wet spot all over me and the bed. :) Well, following her big O, time was dwindling. She told me she would take care of everything. She then proceeded with more expert BBBJ. After 5 minutes she said "Sorry, I want," grabbed the condom, slipped it on and went into a furious CG for another 5 minutes, or so. Then, off with the hat and a big finish with BBBJCIM. Whew! She could suck a golf ball through a garden hose. I'm trying to catch my breath, and she's sitting on my chest and telling me that we have more time and she wants to come again. So, she sits on my face and we go at it again. 2 minutes before she hit number 2, the knock comes. She croaked something to the door guy and kept right on moaning. After she finished, we got up and had to clean up in a hurry. The 2nd knock came, so she cracked the door and finished dressing. I forked over 800 pesos for the hour. As a tip, we went to the cafe next door and she had a large plate of ceviche.
BTW, made a quick circuit of CC at about 4:45. I realize the "lunch crowd" is gone, and it's a bit early for the evening folks, but it was really dead. 3 girls and one customer. 1 girl was sitting with the customer, one was completely absorbed in her cell phone. The third was sitting all alone at the small bar. She wasn't my type, so I kept going out the door. Big signs saying that beers are $2 Mon - Thur before 8, and $3 Mon - Thur 8 - 12. No idea what they want outside of those hours.
No line at border at 6:00pm, walked right through. Dork asked where I was going. Huh? Home.
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Who is this Divine Ms. S?
Phordphan: He charged you $3.00 for that little bag of chips. The beers, before 7pm are $2.00 each...that is, except on weekends when they are $3.50 at all times.
[QUOTE=Efjayel]Who is this Divine Ms. S?[/QUOTE]
Ms. Salma de Michoacan.
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[QUOTE=Roguesta]Phordphan: He charged you $3.00 for that little bag of chips. The beers, before 7pm are $2.00 each...that is, except on weekends when they are $3.50 at all times.[/QUOTE]
Great! It was even worse than I thought! That means I probably got screwed on my other beers, too. I thought they were suppsosed to be cheaper, but I wasn't sure. I did know the 2x1 was gone. I'll watch closer next time.
BTW, they did the same in Tropical. I'll post a report in that thread.
Thanks for the tip.
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Pic of her this Salma?
[QUOTE=Tjmee]Pic of her this Salma?[/QUOTE]
Here's a fuzzy cam-phone pic. Her hair is darker now.
I have better ones, but they're nudes. She made me swear that I'd never post them on the Internet.
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Thanks,
I really don't remember seeing her at HK, but there are a lot more girls now.
Don't think I've ever seen her before.
HK was hoppin with activity last nyt, there was a bath tub show and a flOck of boys were oogling this girl doin the tub show. Also saw the highly talked about expansion, personally, I don't think HK even with the "major" facelift will come close to the ambience and vibe that adelitas has created niche that is uniquely to itself. HK is just an overrated stripclub I think.
Just my $.02.
There's really nothing special about Ab's athmosphere. Doesn't seem like they worked on making it what it is. From what I've seen of old brothels and such, it hasn't changed ambience wise.
AB is just a bar with music, alcohol and hookers standing around waiting for customers. Your average Hooker bar. And hooker bars have been like this since the beginning of time. Adelitas is following suit. HK is a more modern bar with strip shows, pole dancing and whip cream lesbian shows. HK is more strip bar than hooker bar.
The only thing that has made Adelitas #1 all this time is the hot women. But if all those chicas went to the sleaziest and ugliest bar, all the customers would be right behind them. Cause ultimately that's what this is about, the chicas.
Although HK has something going for it by giving the place a more party like athmosphere. Some like this, some don't. I'm one who preffers Ab over HK. But if all the chicas left Ab for HK, then I'd put up with the annoyances of HK just for the chicas.
[QUOTE=Efjayel]There's really nothing special about Ab's athmosphere. Doesn't seem like they worked on making it what it is. From what I've seen of old brothels and such, it hasn't changed ambience wise.
AB is just a bar with music, alcohol and hookers standing around waiting for customers. Your average Hooker bar. And hooker bars have been like this since the beginning of time. Adelitas is following suit. HK is a more modern bar with strip shows, pole dancing and whip cream lesbian shows. HK is more strip bar than hooker bar.
The only thing that has made Adelitas #1 all this time is the hot women. But if all those chicas went to the sleaziest and ugliest bar, all the customers would be right behind them. Cause ultimately that's what this is about, the chicas.
Although HK has something going for it by giving the place a more party like athmosphere. Some like this, some don't. I'm one who preffers Ab over HK. But if all the chicas left Ab for HK, then I'd put up with the annoyances of HK just for the chicas.[/QUOTE]I was in AB up to 1 AM friday. There are shows in AB too, they started after 1 AM.
I had her a year ago and she is wild. BBBJCIMWS and a nice RIM to go with it. Best service in TJ. As long as you don't care about looks much.
[QUOTE=Santij]I was in AB up to 1 AM friday. There are shows in AB too, they started after 1 AM.[/QUOTE]
Don't get me wrong, AB too has its strip shows. But they're not always ongoing like HK seems to be. It's usually only during certain hours. So most of the time it has the hooker bar ambience. Music, alcohol, cigar smoke fog, dim lighting, skimpy clothes, girls standing trying to look sexy or dancing in place shaking it.
damn I really need to go back again but these little excursions come out heavily expensive. Just making the trip is $50 bucks worth of gas! :(
Rim job? Eww, I think i'd feel more grossed out having that done than the girl doing it to me. Perhaps its because of my past experience of it on porno flix. The guys I've seen it being done to where those out of shape pale hairy guys with hair around their butthole. Disgusting to witness is to say the least.
Earlier, I had posted that beers were $3.50 before 7pm on Fridays, Saturdays, and Sundays. I was slightly off. Beers are only $2.00 on Sundays.
Also, the new section is closed off, during the day, from Monday through Thursday. After 8pm, the entire bar is open.
After 5 trips HKG in 6 months last year, I've had to suffer thru almost a year of no travelling. Finally, I'm headed back for a few days and want to maximize my fun.
I've been to k pressure a few times. It is usually my post transpac flight relaxation. I was wondering if anyone has tried to have 2 girls at once there?
I was walking on the alley at 1 Am friday night, they are giving 2 beers for $3:50.
[QUOTE=Roguesta]Earlier, I had posted theers were $3.50 before 7pm on Fridays, Saturdays, and Sundays. I was slightly off. Beers are only $2.00 on Sundays.
Also, the new section is closed off, during the day, from Monday through Thursday. After 8pm, the entire bar is open.[/QUOTE]
Caught the opening night festivities at the double-sized HK Friday night. Got there a bit after 10 or so. Walked in the new entrance and was handed a can of Tecate. “Gratis, free tonight only my friend.” Nice start. Walked in. It was bumpin’ loud and PACKED. Chicas in short little stretch dresses with Hong Kong imprinted across the ass where everywhere.
Straight ahead, down a couple stair and around a pillon. That took about 10 minutes. Did I mention it was packed? I mean wall-to-wall, shoulder-to-shoulder. The place was a circus: including a fat guy in a clown outfit with a rainbow afro wig blowing a whistle non-siop, pounding musica, fast Spanish talking DJ yelling without let-up, confetti everywhere, a man and woman mines striking stupid poses in the new shower area, dozens of maseros in jester hats trying to push their way through the crowds, dozens of strippers in New Orleans/Rio Carnival outfits (bird masks, tons of glitter, body paint, big feather boa things sticking out the backs of their thongs), live video of the action up on the big multiscreen, a million guys of course, lots and lots of good-looking nicely dressed non-stripper girls who where just there for the fun, a few curious streetgirls wandering in for the free beer, and dozens and dozens (seriously) of chicas in those Hong Kong dresses dancing arm-to-arm EVERYWHERE, across all the catwalks and up and down all the staircases. Wild!
They had set up a boxing ring next to the downstairs stage. I first wanted to check the place out, having not been there for a few months. Very hard to move on the first floor, but doubled back and made my way up the stairs slappin’ 8 or 9 “Hong” checks along the way. Second level was a bit less crowded, you could kinda move along if you were patient. Every inch of the catwalks were covered, so you can lay to rest any worries around how sturdy they are.
Third level was a reasonable short cut from side to side. The top level bar on the end actually had a little bit of breathing room. Ordered another beer as waiter service was impossible that night. Made my way back down the stairs on the new side, this time slapping all the “Kong” cheeks on the way down. Played my cards right and managed to get a set at the stage. After one of the Carnival bird girls was finishing her set, the reign of weirdness started.
With the DJ screaming something completely unintelligible non-stop, a parade of the Hong-Kong-Dress girls made their ways down the stairs onto the stage, then started dancing elbow to elbow for a couple of songs. I counted 17-18, assume the same thing was going on on the other stage. There were guys playing drums along with the musica while the girls did their best to dance within their one-square-foot and not fall off the stage. They later conga-lined back off the stage and where soon replaced by three women in black batlike costumes. These three, non-very-attractive women just stood there for the most part, then eventually slowly waved their long black wings up and down back and forth. We were all pretty much waiting for the point to occur, but things like that don’t happen much in Mexico. Then they left and a small guy in a tuxedo-like outfit began semi-Flamenco dancing around on the stage. I thought he was just going to do the setup for the shaving cream show, but that never happened. Instead, he was up there for a LONG half hour lip-syncing and joking around in Spanish. This wasn’t just “gay.” This guy was clearly flaming gay. Nonetheless, all the girls were thrilled stuffing dollars in his belt. Those that could understand Spanish where laughing throughout, so he was clearly a good comedian, but for those who aren’t fluent, we were just uncomfortably clapping when everyone else did and waited for it to be over. And waited. And waited.
Coming up next was the boxing match, and the one thing not coming up through all this was my dick.
I love HK, It is the only place I go to in TJ. I sit at the stage with a pocket full of singles, enjoy a beer or two, rub the parading pussies and nipples, maybe buy a girl a drink and then it’s arriba-time. But tonight wasn’t HK business as usual. There were some guys at tables with girls, but mostly non-hooker girlfriends/wives. This just wasn’t the kind of atmosphere where you could do business. Realizing that, I made it over to AB before the fight started to clear the ringing in my ears and get my freak on (more on that in the AB posting section).
When I came back after my session, the crowd had thinned a bit. The weirdness seemed to be over and things where starting to get back to the usual stripping/hooking business. Hung out at the old stage for a little while, but didn’t want to get covered in stripper glitter, so eventually, around 1:30 a.m., made my way out the new side while they were taking apart the boxing ring supporting structure. Walked across the border with zero wait time, just 3 people in front of me.
All-in-all, a great party experience. Lots of fun, lots of wildness, a little weirdness, not much sexiness. But I guess that’s OK for one night.
I was back about 12 hours later and am happy to report that it was nearly empty, the new side was open but dark and I was able to conduct business as usual.
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Came back to HK the morning after the big party and had a lovely time doing the usual $1 stuff-and-pussy-rub (goddamn it, I love that value for the buck!). One of the dancers, Abrill (ahb-real) de PV sits down next to me. I don’t care much for the chit-chat, so as soon as her drink came, it was vamanos.
Abrill is very nice looking, mid-20s, black hair with a couple bright red and blue streaks. She had it up as pony tails, very cute. Nice thin body, cute little tits. Don’t know if they’re permanent or some kind of cosmetic thing, but she has diamonds in all her top teeth. Different. Couldn’t decide if I liked that or not, but not a big distraction.
Sweet little panocha. Dined a while, then kissed her other lips while junior started to rise. I usually like a little BJ action to start, but with her laying back and us kissing, it was the perfect opportunity to slip in hatless. I was a about half a helmet in when she said, “no, condom,” but I was able to talk her out of that and promised to give her a little extra. Usually, this takes a lot of convincing and still they rarely ever go for it, but luck was on my side today.
After the deed, she went to clean up, I hit junior with a liberal rubbing of Purel, then got dressed.
Keep in mind that we hadn’t discussed payment through all this. I figured I’d at least have to give her cien for BBFS, maybe a lot more. So I started by handing her four 20s and said, “Gracias baby, ochenta.” She was very pleased with that! Double-score!
While she looks great, has an interesting smile, kisses nicely (no tongue, however) and blows OK (though not deep), she’s a bit of a dud enthusiasm-wise. No starfish, but you have to lead, at least I did. Personally, half the deal for me is their ability to fake a nice attitude and sense of fun. But BBFS was a very nice surprise.
If you see her, I don’t know if you can talk her into BB while you’re in the club, but it’s clearly possible in mid-stream. I’m old and chubby, so if I can do it, you better looking guys should have no trouble.
Condomless!? Dude wtf is wrong with you!? Seriously!
Anyways, thanks for highlighting the night of the grand opening. Would have liked to have been there though. I'm sure it would have been a blast.
I have only been to HK twice and had a great time both times. I was wondering, are the girls available for take out?? Or is this place just a strip club?
Thanks in advance for the response.
Why where regular girls there? Where these American girls or locals? Call me old fashioned but I preffer only chicas in the club that work there and not regular girls who are there to party. If regulars girls are there, It would make it awkward to approach the working girls near them cause I would feel like a huge pervert. Even though we both know that I am just for being there. But why ruin the moment? That's all I'm trying to say... :)
Besides what if one of them is looking really hot and I mistake them for a pro and approach them then get put down for it. Sure, it'll be something to laugh about the next day but I won't be laughing while it happens.
[QUOTE=Sgtchili Sauce] HK is just an overrated stripclub I think.
Just my $.02.[/QUOTE]
You nailed it and I'm glad it's there so that AB and CC are less of a sausage fest. I walked through last night checked out the old and new, same old same o on all levels, just more of it. If I want NYC I'll go to NYC not HK.
[QUOTE=Lulu Pussy]
If you see her, I don’t know if you can talk her into BB while you’re in the club, but it’s clearly possible in mid-stream. I’m old and chubby, so if I can do it, you better looking guys should have no trouble.[/QUOTE]
BBFS with hookers in TJ is way too risky for me. I've had plenty of BB sex with past girlfriends. Besides, what if the girl gets knocked up? Supposedly, we're always very releasing small amounts of semen during intercourse before ejaculation.
[QUOTE=Efjayel]Why where regular girls there? Where these American girls or locals? Call me old fashioned but I preffer only chicas in the club that work there and not regular girls who are there to party. If regulars girls are there, It would make it awkward to approach the working girls near them cause I would feel like a huge pervert. Even though we both know that I am just for being there. But why ruin the moment? That's all I'm trying to say... :)
Besides what if one of them is looking really hot and I mistake them for a pro and approach them then get put down for it. Sure, it'll be something to laugh about the next day but I won't be laughing while it happens.[/QUOTE]
I see American girls in AB all the time. They're the ones with the disgusted look in their faces and holding their boyfriend's hands hard enough to break it. It would be hard to mistake them for working girls. At first I was embarrassed, but now I'm more embarrassed for her.
[QUOTE=Jazzyjer]I have only been to HK twice and had a great time both times. I was wondering, are the girls available for take out?? Or is this place just a strip club?
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Yes, the chicas are available to go to the hotel next door. Some will go for $60 but others will not go for less than $100.
[QUOTE=Efjayel]Why where regular girls there? Where these American girls or locals? Call me old fashioned but I preffer only chicas in the club that work there and not regular girls who are there to party. If regulars girls are there, It would make it awkward to approach the working girls near them cause I would feel like a huge pervert. Even though we both know that I am just for being there. But why ruin the moment? That's all I'm trying to say... :)
Besides what if one of them is looking really hot and I mistake them for a pro and approach them then get put down for it. Sure, it'll be something to laugh about the next day but I won't be laughing while it happens.[/QUOTE]The "regular" girls there know that it's also a *****house. Just like Las Chavelas. Lots of "regular" girls dancing and partying. Most go up, some don't. But I have yet to run into one who was insulted by my asking if she went to the hotel. I think they are sometimes kind of flattered, but maybe that's just me projecting.
[QUOTE=Super Gato]I see American girls in AB all the time. They're the ones with the disgusted look in their faces and holding their boyfriend's hands hard enough to break it. It would be hard to mistake them for working girls. At first I was embarrassed, but now I'm more embarrassed for her.[/QUOTE]I had a funny experience my last time at AB in January. There was a young American couple sitting between the stage and the bar on the same side as the DJ. It was a Tuesday night, and not very crowded. During a time when nothing was going on onstage, the chick gets up and starts dancing/stripping. Everyone was going wild, throwing $1s at her. She went for a lot of songs (5 or 6? ), but she never really got down to the nitty gritty. Just a bit of ass cheek, and a random nipple flash. She was obviously a non-pro or beginner. I was surprised they didn't kick her off the stage. Her boyfriend just sat there with a shit eating grin. She made some good money!
[QUOTE=Super Gato]I see American girls in AB all the time. They're the ones with the disgusted look in their faces and holding their boyfriend's hands hard enough to break it. It would be hard to mistake them for working girls. At first I was embarrassed, but now I'm more embarrassed for her.[/QUOTE]
That reminds of me of this one short girl with a great ass that I picked up at AB once. This girl had a really nice ass, she'd put J-lo to shame. She came up to me and was a bit persistent. Telling me that she'd treat me right that the others girls wouldn't, that she'd show me a new position that would have me cum right away, extra time, a two for one deal and all this other stuff. For how hot she was I surprised that she was the one being persisten. One part I found funny was that she was trying to sell herself kind of like she was selling a car cause she said she has a pretty face and a really nice body. I found that cute. She really was hot though. And she wasn't dressed like a **** either. If anything she looked like a decent girl with great style. Her hair was light brown with thick curls, nice body with many curves, just the right amount of makeup, nails on both her hands and feet had been done. Accessorized with few jewelry that looked great. She really took good care of her body as well. And lets not forget that great ass. She looked like the kind of girl you'd see walking around Melrose. Didn't look anything like a prostitute. She could have easily passed off as just some hot girl visiting TJ to party.
I remember when I was talking to her she pointed out a group of people. It was like two guys and two girls. The girls where friends of the guys or girlfriends or something. Not sure. But she told me that one of the guys called her over. Asked her if her ass was real. She turned around so he could feel it but one of the girls slapped her ass instead. Really, really hard! She said it stung really bad so she turned around and slapped the guy so hard that her hand hurt, told them off and walked away. This happened before I walked into AB. The guy saw when she pointed them out to me. He looked at me then looked away. Of course I took advantage of the situation and told her I'd rub it to make the pain go away. That day was the only time I've seen that girl and haven't seen her since.
[QUOTE=Efjayel]That reminds of me of this one short girl with a great ass that I picked up at AB once. This girl had a really nice ass, she'd put J-lo to shame. She came up to me and was a bit persistent. Telling me that she'd treat me right that the others girls wouldn't, that she'd show me a new position that would have me cum right away, extra time, a two for one deal and all this other stuff. For how hot she was I surprised that she was the one being persisten. One part I found funny was that she was trying to sell herself kind of like she was selling a car cause she said she has a pretty face and a really nice body. I found that cute. She really was hot though. And she wasn't dressed like a **** either. If anything she looked like a decent girl with great style. Her hair was light brown with thick curls, nice body with many curves, just the right amount of makeup, nails on both her hands and feet had been done. Accessorized with few jewelry that looked great. She really took good care of her body as well. And lets not forget that great ass. She looked like the kind of girl you'd see walking around Melrose. Didn't look anything like a prostitute. She could have easily passed off as just some hot girl visiting TJ to party.
I remember when I was talking to her she pointed out a group of people. It was like two guys and two girls. The girls where friends of the guys or girlfriends or something. Not sure. But she told me that one of the guys called her over. Asked her if her ass was real. She turned around so he could feel it but one of the girls slapped her ass instead. Really, really hard! She said it stung really bad so she turned around and slapped the guy so hard that her hand hurt, told them off and walked away. This happened before I walked into AB. The guy saw when she pointed them out to me. He looked at me then looked away. Of course I took advantage of the situation and told her I'd rub it to make the pain go away. That day was the only time I've seen that girl and haven't seen her since.[/QUOTE]
There was a girl at Chicago Club last night that looked like a model from a Ralph Loren ad for a preppy Ivy League university student -- nice jeans, a v-neck sweater with a white blouse and a navy blazer. Classy and not the more slutty look the girls in the bars. She seemed better dressed for a Starbucks in La Jolla than CC. She was sitting by herself in a booth and was tapping her nails on the table and looking at the phone. I figure she was meeting someone. I kept wondering if she was a working there, thinking about it, waiting for her boyfriend, what. She was really cute. The kind you'd take home to mom. I didn't have guts to talk to her for fear she wasn't a pro and would be offended/embarrassed/had a huge luchador for a boyfriend. I left and after not finding anything I liked at HK, I went back and she was gone.
[QUOTE=Super Gato]There was a girl at Chicago Club last night that looked like a model from a Ralph Loren ad for a preppy Ivy League university student -- nice jeans, a v-neck sweater with a white blouse and a navy blazer. Classy and not the more slutty look the girls in the bars. She seemed better dressed for a Starbucks in La Jolla than CC. She was sitting by herself in a booth and was tapping her nails on the table and looking at the phone. I figure she was meeting someone. I kept wondering if she was a working there, thinking about it, waiting for her boyfriend, what. She was really cute. The kind you'd take home to mom. I didn't have guts to talk to her for fear she wasn't a pro and would be offended/embarrassed/had a huge luchador for a boyfriend. I left and after not finding anything I liked at HK, I went back and she was gone.[/QUOTE]
In CC 99.99% of the girls that are in there are pros. If she was sitting with a guy usually there'd be 2 glasses on the table if he's off taking a leak or something. The talent is pretty thin at CC so if you find someone decent you gotta move fast and at least walk by and look at her, she'll usually look or even stare back at you with a smile or something to show she is interested. A non pro/or pro busy with a client would just ignore you or quickly look away and go back to her business. CC often has been so slow on some nights that some of the chicas dont even bother to change out of their civilian clothes and put on something sexy and just sit and play with their phones or sit and chat with other chicas all night.
HK has 2 kinds of pros 30-40% are primarly tip/ficha drink girls who make their living on dance tips and getting guys to buy em drinks for ficha tickets they redeem and dont seek sex in the hotel or want $90-100+ to do so. The others are looking to have sex as a primary source of income and will go up for $50-60 at Cascades in addition to the dance and drink money.
[QUOTE=Super Gato]There was a girl at Chicago Club last night that looked like a model from a Ralph Loren ad for a preppy Ivy League university student -- nice jeans, a v-neck sweater with a white blouse and a navy blazer. Classy and not the more slutty look the girls in the bars. She seemed better dressed for a Starbucks in La Jolla than CC. She was sitting by herself in a booth and was tapping her nails on the table and looking at the phone. I figure she was meeting someone. I kept wondering if she was a working there, thinking about it, waiting for her boyfriend, what. She was really cute. The kind you'd take home to mom. I didn't have guts to talk to her for fear she wasn't a pro and would be offended/embarrassed/had a huge luchador for a boyfriend. I left and after not finding anything I liked at HK, I went back and she was gone.[/QUOTE]
Damn, sorry you lucked out. Did she ever look at you or any other guy for that matter? I've seen some pretty hot girls at CC but the place is usually dead, so much that it would seem like sticking around wouldn't be worth it. But next time I see a hot girl, regardless of the situation I'll stick around and talk to her. Damn I really need to go back. Haven't been back for three months now. I usually go every other month but money's pretty tight right now that I'm actually considering busing it over there. Anyone know any good buses that leave from L.A. to south of the border?
Hi Efjayel,
I posted a note about the grey dawgs leaving LA and going to TJ for about $26. Check their site, it's pretty comprehensive.
I was beginning to wonder when you would be posting something first hand (as in recent) too! Maybe the girls faking it has put you off? LOL!
[QUOTE=Super Gato]There was a girl at Chicago Club last night that looked like a model from a Ralph Loren ad for a preppy Ivy League university student -- nice jeans, a v-neck sweater with a white blouse and a navy blazer. Classy and not the more slutty look the girls in the bars. She seemed better dressed for a Starbucks in La Jolla than CC. She was sitting by herself in a booth and was tapping her nails on the table and looking at the phone. I figure she was meeting someone. I kept wondering if she was a working there, thinking about it, waiting for her boyfriend, what. She was really cute. The kind you'd take home to mom. I didn't have guts to talk to her for fear she wasn't a pro and would be offended/embarrassed/had a huge luchador for a boyfriend. I left and after not finding anything I liked at HK, I went back and she was gone.[/QUOTE]
That description sounds like Maria. She's about 22 years old/from veracuz. Shes's fair-skinned with long, thick dark hair. Very pretty girl. She usually wears white stylish jeans and sweaters; looks very "preppy".
[QUOTE=Efjayel] Damn I really need to go back. Haven't been back for three months now. I usually go every other month but money's pretty tight right now that I'm actually considering busing it over there. Anyone know any good buses that leave from L.A. to south of the border?[/QUOTE]
Greyhound has routes from L.A. to downtown S.D. for about $30 round-trip;check out their website. Once in downtown S.D., you would catch the trolley to San Ysidro(S.Y). Or you could catch a metrolink train from L.A. to Oceanside, then take the Coaster to S.D., then trolley to S.Y.
Thirty bucks!? man I should spent the extra $15 to fill up my gas tank($45) and not have to worry about schedules and extra buses and trams to take. Life sucks...
That Maria girl sounds pretty nice, think I'll go looking for her on my next trip.
[QUOTE=Jay Love]That description sounds like Maria. She's about 22 years old/from veracuz. Shes's fair-skinned with long, thick dark hair. Very pretty girl. She usually wears white stylish jeans and sweaters; looks very "preppy".[/QUOTE]
I know that Maria but she was a no show both Sat. & Sun. nights. Has worked at CC for at least 3 years and starts around 7-8pm.
Try the Santa Ana Amtrak/Bus Terminal at 1000 E. Santa Ana Bl. They have buses departing to San Ysidro every hour from about 6 am to midnight. The cost is about $17 each way. 3 different bus lines including Greyhound but Greyhounds service is not every hour and is not usually express. I normally take one of the other two bus lines because they are express and travel time is 2 hours or less.
[QUOTE=Efjayel]Thirty bucks!? man I should spent the extra $15 to fill up my gas tank($45) and not have to worry about schedules and extra buses and trams to take. Life sucks...
That Maria girl sounds pretty nice, think I'll go looking for her on my next trip.[/QUOTE]Don't forget about the $8 for parking.
I take the bus from Santa Ana all the time. They have 3 different bus lines leaving from their bus depot including Greyhound...the other two bus lines have Spanish names that I cannot remember. The price is about $17 each way. I don't buy round trip because when coming back I catch which ever bus line is about to depart. The buses leave Santa Ana every hour on the hour from about 6 am to midnight and many are express directly to San Ysidro!!! Two hours travel time or less.
The depot is located at 1000 E. Santa Ana in Santa Ana.
Yesterday afternoon this place was packed. We were there about 30 minutes ago and there may have been 20 chicas at most in there.
[QUOTE=Underdog9]Don't forget about the $8 for parking.
I take the bus from Santa Ana all the time. They have 3 different bus lines leaving from their bus depot including Greyhound...the other two bus lines have Spanish names that I cannot remember. The price is about $17 each way. I don't buy round trip because when coming back I catch which ever bus line is about to depart. The buses leave Santa Ana every hour on the hour from about 6 am to midnight and many are express directly to San Ysidro!!! Two hours travel time or less.
The depot is located at 1000 E. Santa Ana in Santa Ana.[/QUOTE]
That seems a little more reasonable but Santa ana is over 25 miles away from where I live. That's already like 1/4 of the way to Tj.
Do these buses stop at the Tj border or somewhere far from it? Cause if its right at the border then I'm for it! Does this bus depot have a website?
[QUOTE=Malodr]Yesterday afternoon this place was packed. We were there about 30 minutes ago and there may have been 20 chicas at most in there.[/QUOTE]
You mean Monday afternoon?
[QUOTE=Jay Love]That description sounds like Maria. She's about 22 years old/from veracuz. Shes's fair-skinned with long, thick dark hair. Very pretty girl. She usually wears white stylish jeans and sweaters; looks very "preppy".[/QUOTE]
Yeah Maria's a sweet girl, not a rush and always pleasant. Perhaps a little reserved but she's content with letting the guy lead. You could easily walk down the street or any restaurant with her in tow and no one would think she's a working girl. Definitely sounds like it could be her, her hair style is very straight and long with no volume. Has kind of a round face, and a very porcelin complexion.
I hadn't seen her in a while, but glad to hear she's still around.
[QUOTE=Super Gato]There was a girl at Chicago Club last night that looked like a model from a Ralph Loren ad for a preppy Ivy League university student -- nice jeans, a v-neck sweater with a white blouse and a navy blazer. Classy and not the more slutty look the girls in the bars.
She was sitting by herself in a booth and was tapping her nails on the table and looking at the phone. I figure she was meeting someone. I kept wondering if she was a working there,[/QUOTE]With CC being slow and no so crowded before 8pm, some people are now using it as a meeting place. So a girl from another club might be waiting to meet a guy for a TLN before she works or to go out, etc. Much better than waiting infront of a store. I've done that, and it sucks! ;)
But same goes for Valentinas, they aren't crowded, you can get a drink and wait. I usually prefer Valentinas because it's cheaper but it's also a lot darker so if you don't really know the person well then CC is better for them to find you.
As for that girl, you should've just asked, clearly she knows where she was. If she's working at another club, you can get her name, where she works and when. Besides, you can save her from a little bordem which she'll appreciate!
[QUOTE=Jay Love]That description sounds like Maria. She's about 22 years old/from veracuz. Shes's fair-skinned with long, thick dark hair. Very pretty girl. She usually wears white stylish jeans and sweaters; looks very "preppy".[/QUOTE]
When I went back on Monday night, Chicago Club was dead. She was there for a while but I got discrated by another chica and ended up going upstairs with her. But this girl in jeans (she was still looking like a ivy league university student) was very cute and clearly not trying to get any customers (there were five guys in the bar at the time)
Here's another pic I found of the Divine Ms. S. Another fuzzy cam phone pic. I'll get a new phone in Nov. :)
I went to the HK club Sunday and although the club itself has improved dramatically, the quality of the women has not. Same old beasts walking around.
At least the beautiful Miranda is back! She has two huge posters in the bathroom. She the best ever! The new entrance is cool also, no more walking around to the back.
She looks way hotter in black hair.
[QUOTE=Efjayel]That seems a little more reasonable but Santa ana is over 25 miles away from where I live. That's already like 1/4 of the way to Tj.
Do these buses stop at the Tj border or somewhere far from it? Cause if its right at the border then I'm for it! Does this bus depot have a website?[/QUOTE]The buses to San Ysidro stop right at the border You cant get any closer even if you drive and park at the lots.
Same here. It is a 30 minute drive south to get to the Santa Ana Bus depot or a 20 minute drive north to get to the Greyhound Bus station in downtown LA. Santa Ana is further away but the bus ride is shorter and there are more express buses departing from Santa Ana to San Ysidro. I haven't found a website for the Santa Ana bus depot but it is about 1/2 a mile off of the 5 fwy.
[QUOTE=Underdog9]The buses to San Ysidro stop right at the border You cant get any closer even if you drive and park at the lots.
Same here. It is a 30 minute drive south to get to the Santa Ana Bus depot or a 20 minute drive north to get to the Greyhound Bus station in downtown LA. Santa Ana is further away but the bus ride is shorter and there are more express buses departing from Santa Ana to San Ysidro. I haven't found a website for the Santa Ana bus depot but it is about 1/2 a mile off of the 5 fwy.[/QUOTE]Is there a place to park if you were to go to the Santa Ana bus depot and how much is a ride down to san ysidro
[QUOTE=Tjmee]Is there a place to park if you were to go to the Santa Ana bus depot and how much is a ride down to san ysidro[/QUOTE]There is parking available at the Santa Ana bus depot with 24 hour security. The ride is $17 each way.
[QUOTE=Super Gato]When I went back on Monday night, Chicago Club was dead. She was there for a while but I got discrated by another chica and ended up going upstairs with her. But this girl in jeans (she was still looking like a ivy league university student) was very cute and clearly not trying to get any customers (there were five guys in the bar at the time)[/QUOTE]I was looking for Maria the past two times and didn't see her. I asked the guy in front if she was there, he said yes, she's dancing. I looked inside and it's a taller, slimmer, darker girl with long black hair dancing. I told the guy, no that's not her. He said that's the only Maria here?
I never see the "Maria" described before arriba. I've only seen her ficha with some guys once. The few times I've seen her, she's like most of the chicas in CC, just standing or sitting at the long bar.
[QUOTE=Tjmee]Is there a place to park if you were to go to the Santa Ana bus depot and how much is a ride down to san ysidro[/QUOTE]
Whats the name of that bus you take? Busline?
[QUOTE=Super Gato]When I went back on Monday night, Chicago Club was dead. She was there for a while but I got discrated by another chica and ended up going upstairs with her. But this girl in jeans (she was still looking like a ivy league university student) was very cute and clearly not trying to get any customers (there were five guys in the bar at the time)[/QUOTE]
You should introduce yourself to her/then see if she'll let you bang on her. LOL. There's no pressure in these places brotha. I'll look for her next time I go to CC. I haven't done a girl at CC for a long time.
[QUOTE=Jay Love]You should introduce yourself to her/then see if she'll let you bang on her. LOL. There's no pressure in these places brotha. I'll look for her next time I go to CC. I haven't done a girl at CC for a long time.[/QUOTE]
Oh, I know. If my hands weren't full with another chica I would have totally gone over there. I left with a smile on my face. Maybe I'll get the jeans girl next time.
[QUOTE=One Wing Low]Can someone post the rate structure for the Hong Kong Chicas?
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They definitely will go to the hotel. Don't know about the banner girls, though. No one has said they've gotten one of them yet.
Rates are $60 or $80 and some are asking $100.
Yeah that reminds me of this one older girl that needed to lose some weight in the thigh area. Cute face but obviously the look of someone who has led a wild life. She quoted $100, I said $60. Again she went with 100, I told her I've never paid $100 at HK before. She said that's her price. So to mess with her, I told her $100 but only if I can do a facial. She said that would mess up her makeup. I said that or nothing, she said no and left.
Ah, Fun times.
I havn't been on the bus yet. When is the last departure from san ysidro is there like a time chart at all
[QUOTE=One Wing Low]Can someone post the rate structure for the Hong Kong Chicas?
Hong Kong is definitely a nice place to hang out now.[/QUOTE]
The day shift is generally cheaper than the night shift. I think the better looking chicas work the evenings. At least in THEIR opinion! :)
Too many brain-dead customers pay inflated prices at night. If they ask for $100, laugh at them and send them on their way. There is no reason to pay that kind of money for a 30m session.
Anyway, during the early shift it is rarely a problem to get sessions for $40 or $50, full hours for $80 are not too difficult. Evenings should never go above $60, especially if you buy her a couple of drinks. If they demand more, blow 'em off. TJ is a buyer's market.
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[QUOTE=Efjayel]Whats the name of that bus you take? Busline?[/QUOTE]A correction to my earlier post. There are TWO bus lines that go from Santa Ana to San Ysidro.
Greyhound is partnered with Crucero USA. Phone: 714-542-2215. The tickets are $18 each way. Usually the bus you ride will be a Crucero bus.
The other bus line is Transportes Intercalifornias. Phone: 714-569-0040 or 619-428-8259. Most of their buses are older than the Greyhound or Crucero buses and the seats are closer together which means less leg room. The last time I took this line the tickets were $17 each way.
[QUOTE=Tjmee]I havn't been on the bus yet. When is the last departure from san ysidro is there like a time chart at all[/QUOTE]The only chart I've seen posted is behind the Transportes Intercalifornias counter in Santa Ana. It shows departures every hour on the hour from 5am through midnight. I didn't see a chart the last time I was in their San Ysidro terminal. I think the last departure to Santa Ana is around midnight. I've left their phone number in a previous post. On 2 or 3 occasions I've found myself in San Ysidro trying to get back to Santa Ana after the last bus was scheduled to go to Santa Ana (about 12:30 am) and I did not want to hang out in TJ until 6 am. I knew there was a Greyhound bound for downtown LA so I talked to the drivers directly and they charged me $15 and dropped me off in Santa Ana.
To find out the departures and returns for Greyhound/Crucero you can go to the Greyhound site and use the Search Schedules feature.
Transportes Intercalifornias location in San Ysidro
Locate the Jack and the Box and Motel on the east side of E. San Ysidro Blvd (east side of the 5 fwy) near the border. Directly across the street (west side) there is a parking lot and a building with several businesses and this is where the terminal for Transportes Intercalifornias is located. This is also where you catch the bus back to Santa Ana but it is NOT where you will be dropped off when arriving in San Ysidro. The drop off point is on the west side of the 5 fwy on Camiones Way about 100 yards from the border.
Greyhound/Crucero location in San Ysidro
The Greyhound terminal is on the east side of E. San Ysidro Blvd and is South of the end of the Trolley line. It is the last office at the end of the block. The drop off and pick up location for Greyhound/Crucero is at this location.
The bus depot in Santa Ana closes at 8 or 9 pm but there are still departures up until midnight. If you don't have a ticket and the office is closed you can approach the bus drivers and pay them directly.
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[QUOTE=Phordphan]Here's a fuzzy cam-phone pic. Her hair is darker now.
I have better ones, but they're nudes. She made me swear that I'd never post them on the Internet.
PP[/QUOTE]Took a trip to TJ Saturday morning. I took the Greyhound from Santa Ana at 1:30 am arriving at 3:30 am. Spent time in Adelitas, HK and another bar from about 4 am until noon.
I was looking for Salma but I did not see her. Is that a mole her chin? I could not remember exactly how she looked but I did not see any girls with any moles.
Did 1 street girl for $20. Session was average. Will not RTF.
I was looking for my regular in Adelitas but I haven't seen her in at least 3 months. Sonia from Mexico City. She is a Big girl with a big azz that knows how to work it.
I also did Jennifer in HK. She is a little older and is from Laredo. $45 including BJ and ball licking. Not really a cute face but she was fun in the bar and had a good attitude so that is why I gave her a shot and she did not disappoint.
made a run for the border on wed. afternoon. frickin' traffic and rain turned it into a 4-hour ordeal. i was gonna take in the pads game afterwards, but there was no way to vist and get to petco before the game ended, let alone started.
the divine ms. s had been complaining that her favorite vibrator stopped working, mid-orgasm, a couple of weeks back. she appeared to be very frustrated, and couldn't find anyone to fix it. :) so, i'd promised to get her one. picked up a gold colored one at the local porn shop on tuesday.
finally dragged my azz into hk at 7:30. found ms. s. draped over somebody. i got her attention, handed her the package and beat a hasty retreat. next thing i know she's chasing me down the aisle. she just dumped the other guy. if this was any of you guys, sorry! :eek:
i'd not been to hk since they opened up the other half permanently. man, it's big now. there seemed to be a lot more guys than girls. there are lots of nooks and crannies for girls to stand around, lots more stages and lots of hotties. lots of new faces. btw, anybody know anything about a celeste? trim, shoulder-length dark hair, firm a cups and a p*ssy to die for.
so, the standard 2 beers for me, 4 drinks for her, and long discussions about vibrators. :) arriba was great, standard hour, shower, daty, bbbjcimws (she bragged twice about eating it all), nice massage, giggles and cuddles. standard $80.
as it had come up on another thread, i asked her if she knew anybody from ab, which she does. i asked about the ficha policies and the allegations that the girls had to "reimburse" the bar if their quote wasn't met. she told me that that part of the story was completely false. however, there are quotas. hk's has a 10-ficha quota. the girl has to get 10 fichas before being allowed to go arriba. this keeps the girls hustling drinks so they're not just turning tricks at the bar's expense. however, if it's a slow ficha night, and the girl has a customer, a well-placed $10 bill to the guy at the door will get him to look the other way. so, a 20-ficha quota at a meat market like ab might be possible, but no way is a girl going to pay the bar if she doesn't meet quota.
afterward, made a quick pass through a really dead cc at about 10:00. very quiet, but there were some very lonely looking hotties. half a dozen looked very doable.
back to la linea at just past 10:30, no line, waltzed right through.
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p.s. - here's a last fuzzy cam-phone pic i just ran across.
[QUOTE=Phordphan]She just dumped the other guy. If this was any of you guys, sorry! :eek: [/QUOTE]
It was me, and just when I was about to seal the deal too! :mad:
Nice story dude.
The nature of doing business I'm sure can vary greatly from place to place. Just requiring the customer to buy drinks for themselves should be enough IMHO. Then management also wants to insist the girls hustle a bunch of drinks before they can go & earn their real bread & butter upstairs ? They must sell drinks before selling their bodies. What an arrangement !
[QUOTE=Phordphan]............As it had come up on another thread, I asked her if she knew anybody from AB, which she does. I asked about the ficha policies and the allegations that the girls had to "reimburse" the bar if their quote wasn't met. She told me that that part of the story was completely false. However, there are quotas. HK's has a 10-ficha quota. The girl has to get 10 fichas before being allowed to go arriba. This keeps the girls hustling drinks so they're not just turning tricks at the bar's expense. However, if it's a slow ficha night, and the girl has a customer, a well-placed $10 bill to the guy at the door will get him to look the other way. So, a 20-ficha quota at a meat market like AB might be possible, but no way is a girl going to pay the bar if she doesn't meet quota........[/QUOTE]
This is one difference I notice of HK and AB;
I like HK for the shows and the dancing but I have bad luck there with the chicas. From all the times I've been there I've only had one girl sit with me for drinks. At AB, girls can't keep their hands off me, I'm literally brushing them off one after the other like a waiting line. But I guess that's because I make eye contact with most of them. At HK, I try to make eye contact but none of them ever seem to be looking back. I don't look like a party type of guy which is probably what they want with fichas and lap dances. Cause from what I see thats what they mostly go for, the wild guys waving dollar bills in the air. And I'm not that type of guy. That girl that sat with me insisted on giving me a lap dance at my table. I tried it once but turned her down every other time mostly because I feel awkward having guys staring at us during the process. But like i said before, that's just me.
Every other place I've gone, I always end up back at AB cause its more suited for a guy like me. That and Tropical. But I really should start checking out the other bars. I'd like to but I hate that doing so leads to an entrance fee. I consider it an entrance fee cause you have to buy a drink just to sit and check out the place. And all those drinks would add up. I've tried the walk in, walk around the place then leave routine. I'll tell the meseros that I'm just looking for my buddy or something but that little walk through doesn't give me much chance to check out all the girls, since all you get is a simple glance of them. I need to sit and watch teh action to get a good feel of the place and which girl I'm going to choose.
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[QUOTE=Efjayel]Why where regular girls there?
to approach the working girls near them cause I would feel like a huge pervert.[/QUOTE]Dude, this may come as a shock but...
[b]You are a huge pervert![/b]
And so are all the rest of us here.
And once ya acknowledge your "inner" pervert, you'll actually have alot more fun.
Best regards
Efjayel,
I would agree with you I am more of ab person but hk can be fun too its something different and ya getting a lapdance in front of other guys seems awkward to me as well but I think if you don't care you'll have more fun and I would hate to have that perv feeling doing that haha.
You're right, cause those guys who feel no awkwardness are the one's having all the fun. But even so, I rather remain the way I am. It keeps me from feeling like one of those low life scum bags you always hear about who have no respect for women and only think of themselves. No offense to anyone here :)
I'm a bit reserved. And I preffer it that way, cause I don't think I would like myself if I became like one of those guys.
[QUOTE=Efjayel]You're right, cause those guys who feel no awkwardness are the one's having all the fun. But even so, I rather remain the way I am. It keeps me from feeling like one of those low life scum bags you always hear about who have no respect for women and only think of themselves. No offense to anyone here :)
I'm a bit reserved. And I preffer it that way, cause I don't think I would like myself if I became like one of those guys.[/QUOTE]
I hear ya! I've been in this hobby for a good number of years but that's one thing I've never been able to get over. Doesn't seem to matter which side of the border I'm on, or even if I'm in a bar/red light district (where everyone [i]knows[/i] what you're there for because they're there doing the same thing); I've [u]always[/u] hated having a front-row audience when I'm doing dirt.
Maybe that's why I used to love going to AB and CC; the "Walk of Shame" from the club to the hotel was so conveniently short, lol :)
Yes, the walk from the club to the hotel in Hong Kong is at least three times as long as AB's. I've only done it once but It did feel awkward cause all the Street Girls where looking at me with this look on their faces as if saying, "WHY DIDN'T YOU PICK ME!?!" I tried not to look at them but I could feel their stares. Then after leaving the hotel, those girls gave me the cold shoulder.
I could laugh about it now, but it wasn't fun then.
[QUOTE=Efjayel]Yes, the walk from the club to the hotel in Hong Kong is at least three times as long as AB's. I've only done it once but It did feel awkward cause all the Street Girls where looking at me with this look on their faces as if saying, "WHY DIDN'T YOU PICK ME!?!" I tried not to look at them but I could feel their stares. Then after leaving the hotel, those girls gave me the cold shoulder.
I could laugh about it now, but it wasn't fun then.[/QUOTE]
Dude, youi're worried about what an alley girl thinks of you? They just gave youi the cold shoulder after you came out cuz they figured you were now broke! :)
Actually, the walk is much shorter now, if you go out the front door..
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Had the pleasure of this absolutely perfect 19 year old body. Cute girl, not much Ingles. BBBJ was a bit toothy, but the snapper made up for it. 69, CG, dog and finished on her tongue. Mucho gusto. Paid a little extra for the extras, but well worth it.
Regarding HK that night, both the new and old ends were open, but there was a tarp up that blocked the old section seating area and all of the upstairs on that side. Paulina was dancing in the old section, which was virtually deserted, but plenty was going on in the new section.
Details on the extras. What and how much?
[QUOTE=Efjayel]Details on the extras. What and how much?[/QUOTE]$100 total inclusive of everything noted. You younger, better looking studs may get better mileage.
Paulina is my new ATF. This girl is a unique kind of gorgeous. Looks like a track athlete. Her skin has no blemishes or stretchmarks whatsoever.
When we got in bed I asked her "Cuantos anos tienes? " She replied with "hoy es mi veinte cumpleanos", or something to that effect. Holy god damn, this girl was fine and affectionate. She wouldn't stop DFK'ing me from the private dance booth all the way to hotel cascades.
$60 for the most passionate, moaningest, wettest, yummiest session I've ever had. The girl is perfect.
She didn't show up for our "DATE". Went to HK to see if she was working-- nope-- never showed up, there either
Walked back up Constitution-- south bound towards first Street (Articulo 123) and wham-------I see Paulina with a very very small baby on her shoulders and some very young looking mexican dude--- She made it very clear to me that she was with this guy-- and did not want a monger blowing her "COVER".
But I have only been with her 3 times-- she is the best in TJ- almost as good as some Rio de Janeiro girls---
I would love to post the 15 or 20 pics I have of her- BUt feel that it would make her harder to find in the bar- ie you dudes would be fucking her when I show up so. I will have to keep them to myself-- until I find a better Bar girl.
Someone post a picture of Paulina or describe her, because you 2 guys both know her.
She is my new ATF.
Great 69
She is a bit unreliable
I saw her walking on Constitution with some man/boy and she was schlepping a kid
So who knows. What her deal is
Great (greatest fuck)
I have many pics of her but will not post until I am over her- so that she isn't occupied when I want her.
[QUOTE=Dermdoc58]She is my new ATF.
Great 69
She is a bit unreliable
I saw her walking on Constitution with some man/boy and she was schlepping a kid
So who knows. What her deal is
Great (greatest fuck)
I have many pics of her but will not post until I am over her- so that she isn't occupied when I want her.[/QUOTE]Fair enough I suppose, lets hope you see another chick pretty quick LOL.
Haven't been a big fan of HK; maybe that will change after the expansion is complete. But all of this Paulina buzz has me curious. Got a 4-day weekend coming up, will definitely drop by HK. Does Paulina work evenings/nights? What does she look like? Does she have nice boobs? And ass? Always looking for a new hottie to wreck shop on.
I haven't been to TJ for a year or more. What a difference! HK Club is the best club I've ever been to. I kept going back and forth to Adelitas and couldn't believe how tired Adelitas now looks in comparison. Meanwhile, HK Club has two levels, a jacuzzi show, public showers, private booths and nearly everyone's on the menu. Also, lots of opportunity to play around at the tables for the price of a lady drink ($7), including dry humping and finger penetration. I went around grabbing pussy, breasts and ass for $1 tips, sampling the whole damn club before I settled down for business.
Azul de Chihuahua. My first bar girl crush. She's one of the sweetest, most honest and loyal girls I've ever met. Skinny body and a supermodel face. She's someone I'd like to start seeing outstide the club scene if I lived closer. She hasn't left my thoughts since I left. On the sex side, she almost had me finishing in my pants while we were at the table. I took her upstairs for an outstanding GFE. $80.
Azul de Chihuahua and Andrea de Guadalajara. The next night, Azul caught me flirting with Andrea de Guadalahara and suggested that we go upstairs for a threesome. I was game. I expected the usual taking turns, but Azul whispered something to Andrea and they started kissing! After that, a full-on lesbian show as I took Azul in almost every position while she licked Andrea's pussy. DATY all around. Then I switched condoms and took Andrea in doggy while Azul licked my balls. $160 ($80 / girl).
Alejandra de Tijuana. Azul wasn't available during the day shift, so I took up Alejandra, a stunning blond 19 year old with a perfect body and bolt ons. I knew from our brief time at the booth that she'd be a terrible fuck, but she's magazine-caliber hot. She told me she's still in high school, and I decided to go for it. I could see at the hotel that she's as hot in daylight as she is in the club. She's also a terrible fuck: lots of rules, "you come now, " etc. It was still worth it. $80.
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[QUOTE=Commonglass]I haven't been to TJ for a year or more. What a difference! HK Club is the best club I've ever been to. I kept going back and forth to Adelitas and couldn't believe how tired Adelitas now looks in comparison. Meanwhile, HK Club has two levels, a jacuzzi show, public showers, private booths and nearly everyone's on the menu. Also, lots of opportunity to play around at the tables for the price of a lady drink ($7), including dry humping and finger penetration. I went around grabbing pussy, breasts and ass for $1 tips, sampling the whole damn club before I settled down for business.
Azul de Chihuahua. My first bar girl crush. She's one of the sweetest, most honest and loyal girls I've ever met. Skinny body and a supermodel face. She's someone I'd like to start seeing outstide the club scene if I lived closer. She hasn't left my thoughts since I left. On the sex side, she almost had me finishing in my pants while we were at the table. I took her upstairs for an outstanding GFE. $80.
Azul de Chihuahua and Andrea de Guadalajara. The next night, Azul caught me flirting with Andrea de Guadalahara and suggested that we go upstairs for a threesome. I was game. I expected the usual taking turns, but Azul whispered something to Andrea and they started kissing! After that, a full-on lesbian show as I took Azul in almost every position while she licked Andrea's pussy. DATY all around. Then I switched condoms and took Andrea in doggy while Azul licked my balls. $160 ($80 / girl).
Alejandra de Tijuana. Azul wasn't available during the day shift, so I took up Alejandra, a stunning blond 19 year old with a perfect body and bolt ons. I knew from our brief time at the booth that she'd be a terrible fuck, but she's magazine-caliber hot. She told me she's still in high school, and I decided to go for it. I could see at the hotel that she's as hot in daylight as she is in the club. She's also a terrible fuck: lots of rules, "you come now, " etc. It was still worth it. $80.
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Hi, CG
Nice report. Nothing personal, but some of it did have me shaking my head.
I agree with your take on the "new" HK, it's a big improvement over the previous incarnation.
I don't know what's up with the night shift at HK, but lots of them are demanding $80, and waaaay too many guys are forking it over. That's still a lot of money in Mexico. You can partially justify it because you had such a good time.
But I don't understand paying double the going rate for a day shift girl, getting s*itty service and being happy about it. Just being pretty doesn't justify poor attitude, but untill more guys start calling them on it, these kind of girls will continue to do it. It reminds me a lot of how the Thai girls treat the Japanese guys who throw money around.
If it wasn't for the TJ scene, these girls would still be squirting out kids down on the farm in Bumblefucko del Este, or earning minimum wage (about $5 a DAY) in some maquiladora. If they're gonna ask for big bucks from horny gringos, make 'em earn it!
PP
PS - at 19, there is no way in h*ll that she's still in High School.
[QUOTE=Phordphan]Hi, CG
Nice report. Nothing personal, but some of it did have me shaking my head.
I agree with your take on the "new" HK, it's a big improvement over the previous incarnation.
I don't know what's up with the night shift at HK, but lots of them are demanding $80, and waaaay too many guys are forking it over. That's still a lot of money in Mexico. You can partially justify it because you had such a good time.
But I don't understand paying double the going rate for a day shift girl, getting s*itty service and being happy about it. Just being pretty doesn't justify poor attitude, but untill more guys start calling them on it, these kind of girls will continue to do it. It reminds me a lot of how the Thai girls treat the Japanese guys who throw money around.
If it wasn't for the TJ scene, these girls would still be squirting out kids down on the farm in Bumblefucko del Este, or earning minimum wage (about $5 a DAY) in some maquiladora. If they're gonna ask for big bucks from horny gringos, make 'em earn it!
PP
PS - at 19, there is no way in h*ll that she's still in High School.[/QUOTE]WTF???!! 80 bucks, I would never spend that much, these are the same girls that you can get for like 40. You had fun but you can easily talk them down..
I tried to bring Azul down from $80. She wouldn't budge. I was about to get Andrea from $80 to $60 when Azul came over. Ultimately, given the experience, I found it to be a good value.
Alejandra is a different case, as she clearly didn't provide the same level of service and it was the day shift. She originally started at $100, and I negotiated her down to $80. She is probably the hottest mainstream beauty that I've ever seen in TJ. I could see at least two other guys standing around us waiting to proposition her. Market economics being what they are, I believe that she can consistently command $80 from her looks alone. They actually have a thread dedicated to discussing her at ********. I invite anyone on this board to come forward with a story on how they got Alejandra into a cuarto for $40. Anyone?
[QUOTE=Tjmee]WTF???!! 80 bucks, I would never spend that much, these are the same girls that you can get for like 40. You had fun but you can easily talk them down..[/QUOTE]
It's starting...
People are paying $80 bucks for a night shift chica. But I'm sure it wont be long before it becomes the norm night or day shift and it will eventually spread to all the other bars. $60 is the current rate for a bar girl so bringing them down to $40 or $50 is usually do-able. But now those prices will be like half the going rate so they will start telling us to go to hell for wanting to pay that amount. Damn tourists paying too much are ruinning it for the rest of us.
They've been trying to charge me that same rate, even higher at HK as well but I tell them they're crazy and send them on their way. This one girl who obviously needed to start jogging and loose her thunder thighs was asking for $100. I told her no and thought, "I could get a way better looking girl at AB for half that price." I should have told her that instead of only thinking it to get he word out how they are over-pricing.
Ya, I went to AB today and it was okay I left around like 8 or so, went during the day, got a chick at AB for 50. Anal, pussy everything. I think her name was claudia or something. Black hair. Small waist. Then at HK theres a lot of bitches and I bought a drink for this one chick and this other chick got mad hahaha cause the waiter brought her over and I was like nah I don't wanna buy her a drink she was hot too tho. I don't know why I bought the chick who walked up a drink LOL oh well.
[QUOTE=Efjayel]It's starting...
People are paying $80 bucks for a night shift chica. But I'm sure it wont be long before it becomes the norm night or day shift and it will eventually spread to all the other bars. $60 is the current rate for a bar girl so bringing them down to $40 or $50 is usually do-able. But now those prices will be like half the going rate so they will start telling us to go to hell for wanting to pay that amount. Damn tourists paying too much are ruinning it for the rest of us.
They've been trying to charge me that same rate, even higher at HK as well but I tell them they're crazy and send them on their way. This one girl who obviously needed to start jogging and loose her thunder thighs was asking for $100. I told her no and thought, "I could get a way better looking girl at AB for half that price." I should have told her that instead of only thinking it to get he word out how they are over-pricing.[/QUOTE]
Yeah. What he said!
You try to get them down in price. They won't budge. The solution isn't to cave and pay. The solution is to blow 'em off. Plenty of fish, etc., etc.
$100 for a 1/2 hour of work is more than LOTS of Mexicans make in 2 or 3 weeks!
PP
[QUOTE=One Wing Low]Recently HK manages to bring in a few good-looking chicas, some are $20 alley girls.
I was in HK last week but did not find any girls worth boinking, had to go to Adelita for full service. HK's management just did not work out their routines and train their chicas as well as Adelita with its standardized prices and services. Adelita still has a lot more good-looking girls who would quickly go upstairs for $50-$60, no games or arguments. Adelita's strippers also know how to dance better and to extract more tips from the johns.
Adelita is a well-oiled money-making machine for both the bar and the chicas. It seems the HK managment should learn a few tricks from Adelita. Unless the HK chicas can make better money quickly, only the ugly porkers will hang out there.[/QUOTE]
I am one of the "ugly porkers" , and proud to be one.. at least I won't meet you at HK, which is a first good reason to go there.
Anyway, to each his own, but I don't see the point to insult others who don't think like you...
I'll be standing right next to you as a co-manager. :p
[QUOTE=One Wing Low]Sorry you got it wrong. I mean the ugly chicas, not the mongers. Who cares if the mongers are fat ang ugly if they can afford to pay? The chicas are pro, they dont care if the johns are good or bad looking.
As happened in other bars, if the chicas cannot make serious money, only the ugly ones stay there. The good-looking ones work out of Adelita which has a better and smoother system, therefore they can make much better money.
Same situation has happened in Chicago. Some bros are talking about taking it over and install new management. I can be hired as a quality control manager. I will do my job diligently everyday for a very reasonable salary...[/QUOTE]
OK , point taken.. However, I think it is pretty tough to qualify all HK chicas as such.. There are very nice ones, and, yes, some ugly. In fact the prettiest ones make more money that the AB girl, they only go arriba for 100, at least at peak times, because they are in much demand. I have though been able to go arriba for 50 with nice girls both at HK and AB, but during day time.
I am a newbie and am wondering, what does arriba mean? Does it mean to take the girl out of the club and back to a real hotel? I have been to AB 7 or 8 times now on two different trip to San Diego. If you had asked me if I wanted to go a couple of months ago my answer would have been "hell no" Now I am doing whatever I can to try and get back.
If arriba means what I think it means I would love to learn from the experienced on this forum how to accomplish this.
[QUOTE=Dreams]OK , point taken.. However, I think it is pretty tough to qualify all HK chicas as such.. There are very nice ones, and, yes, some ugly. In fact the prettiest ones make more money that the AB girl, they only go arriba for 100, at least at peak times, because they are in much demand. I have though been able to go arriba for 50 with nice girls both at HK and AB, but during day time.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Kuee95]I am a newbie and am wondering, what does arriba mean? Does it mean to take the girl out of the club and back to a real hotel? I have been to AB 7 or 8 times now on two different trip to San Diego. If you had asked me if I wanted to go a couple of months ago my answer would have been "hell no" Now I am doing whatever I can to try and get back.
If arriba means what I think it means I would love to learn from the experienced on this forum how to accomplish this.[/QUOTE]
Yes and No: I meant just taking the girl to the attached hotel. Certainly not "out" in a sense take away, have dinner, and the rest; Just the standard 30 min F & S .Maybe I got the wrong word....I don't speak a word of Spanish
I am not at all a regular in TJ, just an ocasional visitor from Europe when I happen to be in SD; however, if you read the forum, there is a lot of info from the Tj specialists who do manage to take girls away from the clubs.
[QUOTE=Kuee95]I am a newbie and am wondering, what does arriba mean? Does it mean to take the girl out of the club and back to a real hotel? I have been to AB 7 or 8 times now on two different trip to San Diego. If you had asked me if I wanted to go a couple of months ago my answer would have been "hell no" Now I am doing whatever I can to try and get back.
If arriba means what I think it means I would love to learn from the experienced on this forum how to accomplish this.[/QUOTE]
Arriba simply means "up" or "above," at least in this context. So, you would go up, or upstairs, i.e. to the "on-site" hotel.
Taking a girl back to one's hotel isn't all that easy, nor is it inexpensive. It's tough for them to leave mid-shift unless you pay a bundle to the bar (this is known as a salida) and the girl will usually ask for an extremely optimistic amount, generally based on what they think (hope, wish) they'll earn that evening. There are exceptions, but you get the idea.
PP
[QUOTE=Kuee95]I am a newbie and am wondering, what does arriba mean? Does it mean to take the girl out of the club and back to a real hotel? I have been to AB 7 or 8 times now on two different trip to San Diego. If you had asked me if I wanted to go a couple of months ago my answer would have been "hell no" Now I am doing whatever I can to try and get back.
If arriba means what I think it means I would love to learn from the experienced on this forum how to accomplish this.[/QUOTE]
Google "language translator" and you'll get sites where you can put in what you want to say it will translate it for you. Beware, this is for simple dialog, there are subtleties and phrases that to not translate directly from English to Spanish. A year or so back there were several pages of phrases and translations that referred directly to monger activities.
Can any of you guys help out this newbie?
Arriba means “up”, which means go upstairs to do your thing.
Ok, so it sounds like Arriba means to go upstairs. I thought there was more to it than that.
I want to learn the secrets to seeing one of the girls outside of the club. Last time I was there I met one I really liked. We ended up spending all night together in AB but it got sort of expensive buying drinks all night. It was a very busy Friday night but she still stuck around so either she was into me as well or really really thirsty. It doesn't matter to me either way as I had a great time. I actually changed my travel plans just to stay one more night. She had a great picture of herself on her phone so I asked for her to text it to me and she did so I had her number. I think I got back to San Diego around 6AM that morning. I texted her after I changed my plans and she responded with "see you tonight". I headed back and had another great night. I will be going back in the middle of August but I would like to see her outside the club. I was thinking of making a reservation at a hotel in TJ this time and seeing if she will join me.
Any recomendations for a hotel in TJ. I would prefer something clean and safe. I will have a car as I have to fly into LA so where should I park if I stay in TJ? Or should I get the insurance to go into mexico?
Sorry for all the questions but opportunities like this do not come that often for me so I want to make the most of it. Any advice from the experienced mongers out there is appreciated.
[QUOTE=Surfnk9]Google "language translator" and you'll get sites where you can put in what you want to say it will translate it for you. Beware, this is for simple dialog, there are subtleties and phrases that to not translate directly from English to Spanish. A year or so back there were several pages of phrases and translations that referred directly to monger activities.
Can any of you guys help out this newbie?
Arriba means “up”, which means go upstairs to do your thing.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Surfnk9]Google "language translator" and you'll get sites where you can put in what you want to say it will translate it for you. Beware, this is for simple dialog, there are subtleties and phrases that to not translate directly from English to Spanish. A year or so back there were several pages of phrases and translations that referred directly to monger activities.
Can any of you guys help out this newbie?
Arriba means “up”, which means go upstairs to do your thing.[/QUOTE]
I made a huge a list some while back even added phonetic translation. I forget what thread that was on. But if any of you have anything you need translated just ask. I'll gladly help.
[QUOTE=Kuee95]Ok, so it sounds like Arriba means to go upstairs. I thought there was more to it than that.
I want to learn the secrets to seeing one of the girls outside of the club. Last time I was there I met one I really liked. We ended up spending all night together in AB but it got sort of expensive buying drinks all night. It was a very busy Friday night but she still stuck around so either she was into me as well or really really thirsty. It doesn't matter to me either way as I had a great time. I actually changed my travel plans just to stay one more night. She had a great picture of herself on her phone so I asked for her to text it to me and she did so I had her number. I think I got back to San Diego around 6AM that morning. I texted her after I changed my plans and she responded with "see you tonight". I headed back and had another great night. I will be going back in the middle of August but I would like to see her outside the club. I was thinking of making a reservation at a hotel in TJ this time and seeing if she will join me.
Any recomendations for a hotel in TJ. I would prefer something clean and safe. I will have a car as I have to fly into LA so where should I park if I stay in TJ? Or should I get the insurance to go into mexico?
Sorry for all the questions but opportunities like this do not come that often for me so I want to make the most of it. Any advice from the experienced mongers out there is appreciated.[/QUOTE]If you already have her phone number, the easiest thing to do is to call her and arrange something outside of club hours. Either on her day off, or have her take a day off of work. The former will probably cost a lot less than the latter. If she likes you it won't be a problem.
There are LOTS of posts concerning hotels. Just search.
Don't drive in, unless you don't mind waiting a looooooong time in line coming back. Or, if you don't mind coming back around 4am.
PP
Thanks, calling is not an option for me as she does not speak english and I don't speak but a few words of spanish. A text message hopefully will do the trick. I will try the search for hotels.
[QUOTE=Phordphan]If you already have her phone number, the easiest thing to do is to call her and arrange something outside of club hours. Either on her day off, or have her take a day off of work. The former will probably cost a lot less than the latter. If she likes you it won't be a problem.
There are LOTS of posts concerning hotels. Just search.
Don't drive in, unless you don't mind waiting a looooooong time in line coming back. Or, if you don't mind coming back around 4am.
PP[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=One Wing Low]Recently HK manages to bring in a few good-looking chicas, some are $20 alley girls.
I was in HK last week but did not find any girls worth boinking, had to go to Adelita for full service. HK's management just did not work out their routines and train their chicas as well as Adelita with its standardized prices and services. [/QUOTE]
You are comparing apples to oranges. HK is and always will be basically a strip joint for those who like that sort of thing. Adelita Bar (AB) is basically a brothel (***** HOUSE) with an area downstairs to get to know your puta (if so inclined) before going to the room.
The only thing these 2 bars have in common is beer, girls and location. Other than that they are as different as night and day. I prefer AB over HK and CC over them both but that's just me.
[QUOTE=Kuee95] We ended up spending all night together in AB but it got sort of expensive buying drinks all night.
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How expensive was it?
Probably $200+ I don't mind spending the money as I had a great time. I would rather spend that money on her though go to someplace quite.
I have another question. I posted a trip report a few days ago. It was rather lengthy but the post did not show up. Do the moderators decide what gets posted and what does not? I noticed even my shorter posts don't show up right away.
[QUOTE=Reinaldo]How expensive was it?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Kuee95]Probably $200+ I don't mind spending the money as I had a great time. I would rather spend that money on her though go to someplace quite.
I have another question. I posted a trip report a few days ago. It was rather lengthy but the post did not show up. Do the moderators decide what gets posted and what does not? I noticed even my shorter posts don't show up right away.[/QUOTE]
Your report wound up in the Reports of Distinction thread.
Regular Members' posts don't show up immediately. They're reviewed by the Admin, then posted. Usually takes between a couple of hours and a day. I guess they don't work 24/7. :)
Senior Members' posts are posted immediately.
PP
After a couple of less than satisfying experiences since the grand re-opening, I returned to HK last week, 06/28. It was fairly busy. I sat in the old section upstairs, it wasn't as busy, and its a little more relaxed than the new side. I saw three possibilities that night- Got sniped by a local for the first, The second was already sitting with another guy, and the third was a new girl, don't know her name, petite, cute, young(about 23 years), lighter-skinned, and slightly cross-eyed, which somehow made her cuter. Anyway, was about to take a break and regroup, but another girl working the little stage, who's been at HK a while, Mia, yelled for me to come back.
She's about 30, thin, and has quite a few tattoos(she has a distinctive one that follows her pantyline, for better or worse). I'm not a big fan of ink, but hey, I got an open mind. Anyway. She sat down with me, and was completely sweaty- because she really does dance when she's on stage- I guess she's a primary dancer there- but she's really friendly, and we talked it up quite a bit. The girl, while not my first, second, or even third choice, had won me over with her personality.
So waaay too many chica drinks later, we left, went upstairs, returned, and I bought her a couple more drinks. How do I rate it? That's difficult to say. I spent too much money, albeit willingly, and let a girl choose me, rather than choosing the girl I wanted. All I can say is, if I see her there again, and she's not busy with someone else, I think I'll have a difficult time choosing someone else.
Although, I did return, and did get to know that second choice(after a search for Mia, which was fruitless). But that's another post. See, what I like about HK is the possibility to just have a good time. The environment is different from the other clubs in TJ. Its not just a strip club. But it isn't just a brothel, either. But many times it is both. Anyway. Had a great night.
On another note: Has anyone seen Lucero?
HK thursday night: Arrived sometime near 8pm, looking for Mia. Didn't see her at all that night. I did see another girl from my last visit, Sharyd- only she pronounces it, 'Sharite.' I think. 20 yo, about 5'2”, lots of eyeliner, she always wears a black 'FBI' dress, or a white nurse dress with a red cross over her left breast. When I was at HK 6/28, every time Mia would get up, Sharyd would go to the stage(2nd floor) and start dancing, and come over to me for a tip. Mia would return, and she would go back to her seat with some other guy- yes, he was buying her fichas, and yet she still would go dance.
Perhaps an hour after I arrived Thursday, Sharyd found me, and sat for some drinks. We talked as much as my broken Spanish would allow- I eventually let her talk me into a booth dance. We returned to a table, I bought her more drinks, and so on. At some time, the conversation came to going to the hotel. A drink or two later, She made a proposal: I buy her 10 drinks, sit in the booth with her and once finished, we would go to the hotel, no propina necessary. I was immediately suspicious, but was having a good time, and figured I would probably end up buying that many drinks for her anyway, so I might as well enjoy some semi-private time in the booth for no additional cost.
Bottom line is she made good on the deal; after the drinks, we went to the hotel, nothing spectacular- but nice, nonetheless. And there was no cash exchanged. A first for me.
Which begs the notion that the chicas must get some kind of percentage from the fichas. Or maybe that fact was established here long ago, and I just need to RTFF.
Again, I spent too much money, but I enjoyed the company. Its obvious many of the girls will take advantage of the situation, and milk you for as many drinks as possible, without any guarantee of sex. It would be a good idea to resolve this issue early on, if your primary focus is to simply fuck. But if thats the case, Adelita's is probably a better bet for you. I like the party atmosphere of HK.
Now, gringos are definitely the minority in HK, and in the Zona in general. I don't know why, except our population here is getting scared to cross the border. Its no problem for me, except I stand out like... a gringo in TJ.
No Z
[QUOTE=No Zanax]
Which begs the notion that the chicas must get some kind of percentage from the fichas. Or maybe that fact was established here long ago, and I just need to RTFF.
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The chicas get $3 commission on each ficha. They're also supposed to do 10 fichas, per shift, before they can go arriba. Keeps 'em hustling drinks instead of just turning tricks, I suppose.
There is some sort of carryover scheme, too, where they can use "extra" fichas on a good day to "make up" for slower days, but I really don't understand it.
PP
Hey guys,
Is been a while since I posted a report, but I think you gonna like this one. I went to HK my favorite spot, and was walking aimlessly with no one really catching my eye, it as slightly after 9 so they were going thru the shift change, I sat for a while then, on the old main stage I saw this girl, she is a little bit older w/ boob job and tummy tuck, but she looks so hot in her tiny g-string I had to get a closer look, and to my surprise, when I hold my tip she sits in front of me and opens her legs wide, so what I do I kiss her where the V marks the spot and she continues dancing so when she comes around again she gets on all four, moves her g string to the side and puts her ass with in reach of my tongue so I had to lick and suck on her pussy and she turns around and kisses me in the mouth, that's it I lost control and started tipping her one buck after another and with each dollar she keeps her pussy longer in my face to the point that I was just giving her all the singles I had just to keep that pussy withing eating distance, all the guys are cheering me on at this point, I don't even come up for air, when she finishes I walked to her and thank her by huggin her and doing some dry humping, she tells me in a whisper that she came in my mouth. I was so hard that I had to get some relief, so I went looking for Gaby and found out she is gone, so I run into this hot little number named Susana, and we get warm up to each other in the room and she gives me the most wonderful CBJ I had so far, she is petite, really slim, dark skinned, and this nice tight trimmed pussy, we started mish, and then after a nice relaxing conversation moved to cowgirl, and she got in to it, she was moaning and just looking at me, I asked if she was ok and she just nodded and a little later we both came, she came so hard she collapsed on my chest, and was embarrassed after wards, I assured her it was ok, and that I lked her too. We said our goodbyes and I went back to HK, I sat for a while and after a few beers, this other girl caught my eye, she was dancing on that high pole opposite the new bar, she was wearing a black lose top and white g string, she looked like Cody Lane the pornstar, but has a rounder perfect ass, I giver her a tip and to my surprise (there is a God) she gets on all four and moves her g string to the side and puts her pussy within reach of my tongue, so what I do? What any God fearing man would, I stick my tongue out as far as it can possibly go and tongue fuck her lightly, she turns around and blows me a kiss, her name is also Susana. So I go to the bar and got more singles, I stay with her but she is careful not to allow me to lick her when there are other guys around, only when most of them leave. After a while am ready for round 2 so I go looking for the Paradita Susana and she is more than willing and even friendlier, we finished doggy style this time with me moaning.
Went back to HK, sat for a while going from one girl to another then go home. Total Damage. Paradita susana $40 x 2 $80 and room $3 x2 $6, about 6 beers $ 24 (I get them from the bar so I save on tipping the waiters) about $60 on random tips, dinner at La Perla (before round 2) $10, cab fare total $10, Parking $5. $195 not including gas. MONEY WELL SPENT!
I went again Sunday and spent a lot less but I'll post it some other day, I got to go to an appointment right now, trying to get a 2nd job so I can replenish my Mongering fund.
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Hot report XXnegrito.
Anyone have the 411 on the girl that strolls the HK? Her name is Mia and she oozes while she walks. She's brown skin, short, doens't dance. She wanted $80 on a Friday night. I want her and will go for a total of $80, room,exit fee and a sexo.
I have not read this HK post for awhile; however, I have been going to the HK club on a regular basis. I must say, after reading this post going back a few months, I am really shocked at the prices guys have been paying the girls at the HK club for sex! I can honestly state the most I have ever paid for an attractive young girl at the HK for full service is $45--that's it. The lowest I have paid was $30.
Maybe prices for guys at the HK is higher at night because I generally arrive around 11:45 a.m. and leave around 4:00 p.m. Maybe the earlier you go, the cheaper the price--who knows.
Also, I never buy the girls drinks--why buy drinks when the HK club gets at least half of the money? I rather give the girl $1 bills while she sits in my lap and while I feel her pussy and play with her tits. I tell them no drink, but if we like each other, I will give her the $1s for little hugs and kisses. They usually laugh and get the general idea.
If the girl and I have good foreplay and she really likes me (or she can fake it good), I wait for the girl to bring up going back to the room. I always let the negotiation be playful and fun. As a result, I pay no more than $45. If the girl wants more than $45, I tell them in a playful way I am just a poor man with two wives and 10 kids and I cannot afford her. They usually laugh and will lower their price or they move on to a guy who will overpay.
My simple point is, paying for sex is like buying a new car. The price you pay depends on your negotiation skills and methods. We all know the exact same new car is sold at different prices to different customers. Some buyers will pay more and some will pay less for the car. It's no different when it comes to paying a girl to spread her legs for your enjoyment.
[QUOTE=Undercoverh]
Also, I never buy the girls drinks--why buy drinks when the HK club gets at least half of the money? I rather give the girl $1 bills while she sits in my lap and while I feel her pussy and play with her tits. I tell them no drink, but if we like each other, I will give her the $1s for little hugs and kisses. They usually laugh and get the general idea.[/QUOTE]
Is that even allowed? Far as I know, it's required to buy the chica a drink to have her sit with you regardless if you're tipping her.
[QUOTE=Efjayel]Is that even allowed? Far as I know, it's required to buy the chica a drink to have her sit with you regardless if you're tipping her.[/QUOTE]
I can only write from my personal experience of going to the HK club for the past several years. Here are the facts as I see them:
1.
When I given girls $1 tips to feel their pussy and tits, I have had girls tell
the waiters to leave us alone (she knows I will not buy a drink and I tell her too many waiters keep bugging us).
2.
When the waiters see you with a girl, they are like flies seeing shit! They
keep flying over to bug you to buy a drink. Some waiters get carried away
and are aggressive, this may lead you to think it is required.
3.
I have never had a girl or waiter tell me it is required to buy the girl a drink for them to sit with me. In fact, I have had some girls sit with me after knowing I will NOT buy them a drink and I will NOT given them any more dollars. However, I am not touching them, we are just talking at that point. In these situations, they are trying to close the deal and I listen to their sells pitch (e.g., she will suck my di_k good, etc). They sit for maybe less than 10 minutes before they move on.
4.
Generally speaking, it is up to the girl how much time she wants to spend with you. Unless it is her turn to dance. The girls that I like, I simply keep giving them $1 tips (generally no more than $5 over a 10 to 15 minute time frame) and they will sit in my lap while I play and laugh with them (which includes playing with their tits and pussy). As a side note, one girl their always ask for $1 for me to stick my finger up her ass--no thanks.
5.
The bottom line is, most girls will not sit with you unless you are giving them $1s or drinks when you are touching them consistently. Basically, "no free lunch." As noted before, I have had girls sit with me with no drinks, but I am giving them $1s to feel their pussy and suck/pay with their tits.
Again, this is simply based on my experiences at the HK, "your mileage may vary."
[QUOTE=Efjayel]Is that even allowed? Far as I know, it's required to buy the chica a drink to have her sit with you regardless if you're tipping her.[/QUOTE]
You don't have to pay for a drink. Some girls will stay with you for a while as long as they think you will 1) continue to give her $ss, and 2) that you are likely to go arriba. Last time I visited, one of them stayed a good 15 min with me, DFK, fingering, tits play etc..., just for a few 1$ bills. But, not surprisingly, we ended up arriba, for 50. It was mid afternnoon, week day, and she was definitively not the most attractive of all. But I go for service over looks...
[QUOTE=Undercoverh]I have not read this HK post for awhile; however, I have been going to the HK club on a regular basis. I must say, after reading this post going back a few months, I am really shocked at the prices guys have been paying the girls at the HK club for sex! I can honestly state the most I have ever paid for an attractive young girl at the HK for full service is $45--that's it. The lowest I have paid was $30.
Maybe prices for guys at the HK is higher at night because I generally arrive around 11:45 a.m. and leave around 4:00 p.m. Maybe the earlier you go, the cheaper the price--who knows.
Also, I never buy the girls drinks--why buy drinks when the HK club gets at least half of the money? I rather give the girl $1 bills while she sits in my lap and while I feel her pussy and play with her tits. I tell them no drink, but if we like each other, I will give her the $1s for little hugs and kisses. They usually laugh and get the general idea.
If the girl and I have good foreplay and she really likes me (or she can fake it good), I wait for the girl to bring up going back to the room. I always let the negotiation be playful and fun. As a result, I pay no more than $45. If the girl wants more than $45, I tell them in a playful way I am just a poor man with two wives and 10 kids and I cannot afford her. They usually laugh and will lower their price or they move on to a guy who will overpay.
My simple point is, paying for sex is like buying a new car. The price you pay depends on your negotiation skills and methods. We all know the exact same new car is sold at different prices to different customers. Some buyers will pay more and some will pay less for the car. It's no different when it comes to paying a girl to spread her legs for your enjoyment.[/QUOTE]
Good post, and I agree with your pricing philosophy.
On a general note, FWIW, all the bars have a minimum ficha per arriba policy. In HK it's 10 fichas before the girl can go arriba. I don't know how strictly it's enforced, and I understand that a few $$ to the doorman, on a slow day, will result in him looking the other way. So I always buy a couple of drinks, just in case.
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[QUOTE=Phordphan]Good post, and I agree with your pricing philosophy.
On a general note, FWIW, all the bars have a minimum ficha per arriba policy. In HK it's 10 fichas before the girl can go arriba. I don't know how strictly it's enforced, and I understand that a few $$ to the doorman, on a slow day, will result in him looking the other way. So I always buy a couple of drinks, just in case.
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I would NOT disagree that there may be some policy as "in HK it's 10 fichas before the girl can go arriba," all I can say is that no such policy has every been applied to me in the past several years of going to the HK club.
Case-in-point. In January 2008, I walked into the HK club, saw my sweet sex mate that I had sex with several times before on different occasions. However, I had not seen her working in the HK club for the past few months at that time. We saw each other, hugged and kissed, before we even sat down, we were off to the hotel--no drinks, no tips, just let's go have sex. I told her $30 and she said, "ok, no problem for me." But she knows I always give her an extra $5 or $10 (just because she is really cool with me and it is like a GFE + her pussy is nice and wet--no KY!).
Now bare in mind, with this girl, I was always nice to her, I always tipped her consistently in the past for little feels, and we seemed to like each other (as can be defined between a John and a girl that has sex for money). She always gave me BBBJ and never any rush. She and I "clicked." Thus, no rules for us, just sexy fun.
My point is, there are always exceptions to the rule. I always make sure I am the exception--and you should too!
[QUOTE=Phordphan] I understand that a few $$ to the doorman, on a slow day, will result in him looking the other way.
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I've only taken 1 chica up from HK and that was last weekend. The guy at the door said he needed a dollar and I could not tell what for other than renting the thin robe the chicas cover up with. WTF?
[QUOTE=Ninguno Especial]I've only taken 1 chica up from HK and that was last weekend. The guy at the door said he needed a dollar and I could not tell what for other than renting the thin robe the chicas cover up with. WTF?[/QUOTE]
Yup. Robe rental. Just another TJ scam...
I can't speak for HK but the AB policy is different. The girls don't have to accumulate the fichas BEFORE they can go upstairs but rather in the course of their shift. I have seen the doorman at AB ask to see their fichas as they are coming down from the hotel.
[QUOTE=Phordphan]Good post, and I agree with your pricing philosophy.
On a general note, FWIW, all the bars have a minimum ficha per arriba policy. In HK it's 10 fichas before the girl can go arriba. I don't know how strictly it's enforced,
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[QUOTE=Reinaldo]I can't speak for HK but the AB policy is different. The girls don't have to accumulate the fichas BEFORE they can go upstairs but rather in the course of their shift. I have seen the doorman at AB ask to see their fichas as they are coming down from the hotel.[/QUOTE]
I think that particular ficha is the one from the hotel. She has to give it to him to prove she went to their hotel, not someplace else. The door guy checks them out and back in again. I understand that sessioning anywhere else is verboten.
But I think you're correct about the overall accumulation of fichas. All I know about the HK fichas is what the girls have told me. But they would never stretch the truth, would they? :)
PP
[QUOTE=Phordphan]The chicas get $3 commission on each ficha. They're also supposed to do 10 fichas, per shift, before they can go arriba. Keeps 'em hustling drinks instead of just turning tricks, I suppose.
There is some sort of carryover scheme, too, where they can use "extra" fichas on a good day to "make up" for slower days, but I really don't understand it.
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I'm sure that's not true. In AB, its supposed to be that they are required to gain so many fichas in one work day to basically pay off their bar working fee. It doesn't matter if they get guys to buy them drinks or not, they can go upstairs as many time as they like before completing their ficha quota. But at the end of the work shift, they need to have garnered the required amount of fichas. The one girl I asked about this said the ficha quota sometimes gets overlooked if work is slow.
So it would be pretty stupid if HK requires that they fill their quota before going arriba. That would just be a loss for the girl. What if she never fills her quota? She can't get a client to the room and make no money? Who'd agree to work that way?
She probably told you that to get her to buy her more drinks.
[QUOTE=Ninguno Especial]I've only taken 1 chica up from HK and that was last weekend. The guy at the door said he needed a dollar and I could not tell what for other than renting the thin robe the chicas cover up with. WTF?[/QUOTE]
That does sound like a scam. What door guy? The HK door guy? Or the hotel door guy? I wouldn't have paid it.
[QUOTE=Efjayel]
So it would be pretty stupid if HK requires that they fill their quota before going arriba. That would just be a loss for the girl. What if she never fills her quota? She can't get a client to the room and make no money? Who'd agree to work that way?
That does sound like a scam. What door guy? The HK door guy? Or the hotel door guy? I wouldn't have paid it.[/QUOTE]
She told me that on slow days you might have to "tip" the doorman to look the other way. She also said that it wasn't too difficult to get 10 fichas, unless biz was really slow. But, who knows? I know the bar wants to sell drinks, the girls are secondary.
It's the HK door guy who wants the buck. The girl wears the robe while prancing down the street to the hotel. Of course, if you walk out the front, it's like 5 feet. Not sure what would happen if you refuse.
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Hey Guys,
Help me out. What is the rule for entering and exiting TJ now? Must I have a passport or not. I would be parking and walking across.
Please advise.
Thanks!
No need for a passport if you have a license and birth certificate.
[QUOTE=Genxxx]What is the rule for entering and exiting TJ now? Must I have a passport or not.[/QUOTE]
A passport is easiest- From what I understand, a driver's license and birth certificate will suffice. The last time I tried to use only my driver's license, the customs agent who screened me gave me a lot of grief. But from what I understand, there's been a delay of some sort regarding the new passport law, or an attempt to delay the new law. Go to [url]www.travel.state.gov[/url] for more info.
The last 3 times (in 3 weeks) I went with only my CA DL.
1st time - "What are you doing in Mexico?"
"checking out a strip joint"
Just hands me my DL back w/o saying a word.
2nd time - same question, asks for birth certificate, gave me info brochure, then waves me through.
3rd time (friday) - "Where were you born" me "VA" then goes on about east coast stuff and gives me my DL back. no mention.
[QUOTE=Phordphan]She told me that on slow days you might have to "tip" the doorman to look the other way. She also said that it wasn't too difficult to get 10 fichas, unless biz was really slow. But, who knows? I know the bar wants to sell drinks, the girls are secondary.
It's the HK door guy who wants the buck. The girl wears the robe while prancing down the street to the hotel. Of course, if you walk out the front, it's like 5 feet. Not sure what would happen if you refuse.
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I've only taken one girl from HK to the hotel. Her outfit wasn't all too revealing so she didn't have to wear a robe. I wasn't charged any sort of robe fee.
So how much is the tip to make the doorman look the other way? Although I wouldn't have paid it. If I try to take the girl out and the door guy stops me saying that she hasn't fullfilled her 10 ficha quota and that I should tip him to look the other way, I would have said no and that I would not pay extra to the bar just because of their ridiculous rule. I'd walk away and leave the girl standing there. I would make a point of it.
[QUOTE=Efjayel]I've only taken one girl from HK to the hotel. Her outfit wasn't all too revealing so she didn't have to wear a robe. I wasn't charged any sort of robe fee.
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The robe scam is fairly recent: about a couple of months old. Perhaps your arriba was from before its introduction.
I don't think it has anything to do with "decency" because when it was first introduced they said it was to keep the chicas warm. I saw a guy put his coat around the chica (because she truly was cold) and he still had to rent a robe.
[QUOTE=Efjayel]I've only taken one girl from HK to the hotel. Her outfit wasn't all too revealing so she didn't have to wear a robe. I wasn't charged any sort of robe fee.
So how much is the tip to make the doorman look the other way? Although I wouldn't have paid it. If I try to take the girl out and the door guy stops me saying that she hasn't fullfilled her 10 ficha quota and that I should tip him to look the other way, I would have said no and that I would not pay extra to the bar just because of their ridiculous rule. I'd walk away and leave the girl standing there. I would make a point of it.[/QUOTE]
I was a bit unclear. The chica told me that SHE would be the one forking over a propina to the doorman. The purpose, of course, is that it's better to give him a bit and go arriba than to sit around earning nothing. I seem to recall the tip would be in the $20 range. The transaction would probably be conducted in rapid-fire Spanish and the money would probably change hands later on.
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[QUOTE=Phordphan]I was a bit unclear. The chica told me that SHE would be the one forking over a propina to the doorman. The purpose, of course, is that it's better to give him a bit and go arriba than to sit around earning nothing. I seem to recall the tip would be in the $20 range. The transaction would probably be conducted in rapid-fire Spanish and the money would probably change hands later on.
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The robe "tip"/fee is paid by the male customer and is $1. The $20 "tip"/bribe must be for the lack of ficha.
Either one is a scam. Can't believe HK is allowing such stupidity. The only reason all this is going on is because of all the morons going to HK, fattening the wallet of the owners and making them think they are above all the other bars.
IMO, they're not.
[QUOTE=Efjayel]Either one is a scam. Can't believe HK is allowing such stupidity. The only reason all this is going on is because of all the morons going to HK, fattening the wallet of the owners and making them think they are above all the other bars.
IMO, they're not.[/QUOTE]
Pretty much agreed. But HK's remodel has improved the place. I think the popularity will taper off after a while. I will say that the more I go to TJ the less tolerant of stupid scams I become. The last few times I haven't said anything about the robe tip. But, I'm waiting for the day when I make the deal, but, for some reason, I'm in a bad mood. I'll be curious what the girl does when I balk at the fee, then pull the plug on the whole deal and leave her standing there as I stalk off to AB, or somewhere. :) Sombody's gonna be pissed. I just about did it a couple of weeks back when I'm sitting with a fave and the #8 mesero, Julio, takes off with my $20 and never comes back. She finally flagged him down, he didn't have the change ready as they usually do, and I was primed to bail at the first lame excuse. (I knew she'd tear him a new one if she lost a customer over this). But he pulled out a wad of cash and made change, so I simmered down.
[QUOTE=Phordphan]Pretty much agreed. But HK's remodel has improved the place. I think the popularity will taper off after a while. I will say that the more I go to TJ the less tolerant of stupid scams I become. The last few times I haven't said anything about the robe tip. But, I'm waiting for the day when I make the deal, but, for some reason, I'm in a bad mood. I'll be curious what the girl does when I balk at the fee, then pull the plug on the whole deal and leave her standing there as I stalk off to AB, or somewhere. :) Sombody's gonna be pissed. I just about did it a couple of weeks back when I'm sitting with a fave and the #8 mesero, Julio, takes off with my $20 and never comes back. She finally flagged him down, he didn't have the change ready as they usually do, and I was primed to bail at the first lame excuse. (I knew she'd tear him a new one if she lost a customer over this). But he pulled out a wad of cash and made change, so I simmered down.[/QUOTE]
HK was my favorite place before the remodel. I haven’t been there since they’ve redone it because, till recently, I’ve had a gal here stateside(that has changed). I’m looking forward to the new layout of the place. The reason I like it more than AB is the dance club atmosphere. And I don’t go clubbing or dance, (too old). I like the music, dancing girls, the $1 feel ups, and the lezzy show. Overall the gals are better at AB than HK, but that doesn’t mean there aren’t diamonds to be found if you take the time. That’s where the good atmosphere makes it a better overall experience. AB just has the gals standing around waiting for you to go up and cut a deal, then it’s upstairs for the wham, bam, thank you mam’. Very mechanical.
As far as cover charges and extra fees; I learned quickly that walking away is the simplest way to have the “fees” waived. A waiter losing beer sales and tip and gals losing a trip next door speaks volumes. I am polite but insistent that I won’t pay superfluous charges, and then walk away. A trip around the block, a taco or two and I go back; often they don’t remember and the terms have changed. Bear in mind I go mid-week so I’m sure they are more sensitive to losing business on off-peak days than on the weekends.
There are some nice girls in HK. Like I mentioned before I've only been with one chica from HK. She was not your typical hot girl like in AB. Perhaps a 7 and that was only because she was all fixed up. I'm sure she's the type that looks pretty awful when waking up in the morning.
Although she was really talkative and attentive. We where talking like two friends. After a while of conversating she mentioned wanting to go upstairs. But since we where having such a good time, just talking like friends I told her that it would feel weird cause I now felt respect for like a friend and didn't think of her as a prostitute. But I didn't want her to leave so we went upstairs. And I'm glad I decided to.
Upstairs she refused to remove her top. She would only lower it enough so her breasts would pop out. They where kind of big so they looked really nice. Real too.
I didn't want to finish so I could try out some other girls after her. And after a while I even told her she could stop but she wouldn't. She didn't want me to leave without finishing. She was a real trooper and didn't stop. Plus she even told me to relax and lie back so she could do all the work. And she did! The only time I did any work was when we switched to doggy. More girls should be like this.
I've had girls at AB that even though there was still time left, they'd tell me, "this is the last position I'm doing so you better finish." And I'm just thinking, "Wtf?" Not only is it an ultimatum but it ruins the mood. :(
[QUOTE=One Wing Low]Some of the bros can probably tell us some good stories about the poor circumstances of the strippers in TJ.
Most are unmarried mothers trying to feed their babies and supporting their extended families. I just found out the pretty Maria at Chicago has a baby to support. Poor girl. She always acts with grace and dignity.
The bros should try to be kind and generous to them. They will be your good friends.[/QUOTE]Ya, I was talking to this chick at the tiger and she just got back to stripping shes from the u. S. Sandiego, and was telling me how she has a girl and she was real cool shes white too and moved down to tj she pays like 200 for rent. Pretty cheap first person I bought a drink for, then I gave her the rest of my dos equis haha. She was cool I guess. Felt bad. Then she was like I'll give you a lap dance I declined.
Many of these sluts have popped out 1 kid or 2 before they even turn 18.... And the ones that don't have any kids at all are a rare special occurrence IMO.
Only saw two thin (no beer belly) hot girls in HK yesterday afternoon.
i just returned from TJ for the first time since the renovations. WOW! What a great looking place. Was there Tues, Weds, and Thurs nights. No cover, not many patrons, and a few girls dancing/working. There were a bunch of girls in pink tops, white shorts, and sashes dancing on the front/back stages. A few were hott, a few were NOTT. This is now a great place if they could get better girls. Put some AB girls in here, and you have a great place. Every night, they were still working on Miami Bar.
You're the first to say it looks great. Everyone else seems to place it out as just an average expansion. What do you think makes it so great?
And what are they doing to Miami?
[QUOTE=Efjayel] What do you think makes it so great?[/QUOTE]The shirtless male waiters on one side wear yellow construction helmets and bright orange safety vests.
Just what I want to see to get me in the mood - the village people.
[QUOTE=One Wing Low]
A fresh, young girl in black leather bras and fish net stocking was pinching my butt and groping my crotch as we watched the match. She guided my hands onto her boobies and her crotch. Ended up buying her a ficha drink, sitting down at a table in front of the large TV. She was half-way pretty, said 19 YO, all natural assets. She was baring her boobies and pussy for me to squeeze while a few Hell Angels looked on, grinning from ear to ear. The mileage is very high for ficha drinks in HK. She took her time sipping her drink, giving me non-stop lap dances, finally bringing up the hotel question. She asked for $60, I countered $40 and she accepted.
Went up to La Cascada’s entrance on Coahuila to a small, sparse room for which they charged $12, not the normal $6 they would charge if you went up from the alley entrance. The chicas was OK but nothing memorable, probably a few notches below the 2 alley girls I banged before her. Could have had much better sessions with the HK's stunners. Would never do her again. Lilianna, the petite chica hanging out in front of hotel Coahuila, wearing a flowery dress, was far prettier and much more fun and passionate in bed. Must do her again and again.
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Excellent! Never pay retail! :)
But I've never been charged $6 at Cascadas, regardless of the entrance I used. Were you somehow getting the 15 minute SG rate?
It's been several years since I've been back to the TJ scene, and really never caught the vibe at HK, but after Thursday afternoon, I can't wait to go back!
My usual routine is to hit the Tropical Bar first. This is a great place to find new girls just off the bus. I've found some young inexperienced gems there that I like to take upstairs and break in. I like the ones that cry because they're still kinda scared about the situation they're in. Answering an ad for a waitress job that turned out to be a bar chica upstairs in a $12 room with, well, me.
If it's a no go at TB, then I stroll over to CC. I've had a few good hits at CC, but it's more of a late night club, and I'm more of an early evening dude, so most of the time I'm off to AB.
I usually save AB for last because I know it's a guaranteed hit there. These girls are pros and mean business. I don't think I've ever left AB without a hit upstairs.
But, this time I was walking past HK and couldn't help but notice the hot chicas dancing on the sidewalk and lots of activity going on, in and out. I walked in and was pleasantly surprised. It was a total party atmosphere with great rock music blasting and all the girls, I'm talking at least 50 girls, all dressed in a "rock-n-roll pirate" theme. Lots of black leather. Chicas dancing on every stage and on the balcony above, and, this was a Thursday evening about 5pm! After the "Nalgas de Oro" (ass of gold) contest, I tried to hook up with the winner "Fernanda" (jennifer lopez look alike) but she got scooped up pretty quick so I set my sights on a shy timid platinum blonde with snow white skin and perfect teeth, Priscilla. She had just turned down a guy's request to go upstairs, so I wasn't sure, but I thought I'd play the nice guy role with her to see how she responds. Bingo! She hates the aggressive, desperate type so my smooth compliments and easy conversation got her ass up the stairs. She's very clean, taking showers before and after. What I enjoyed most about her was that her sex was more like, love making, than fucking. A perfect balance between the inexperience of the TB chicas and the seasoned pros at AB. Please be gentle with her.
I think I have a new favorite place.
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Hell's Angels? that must have made for an interesting night. Any fights break out?
They where shy? I find that hard to believe. And yeah, I too would hate to see the bars taken over by biker gangs. I'd feel uncomfortable and in danger. Hopefully it's not a frequent thing. I think I saw on the news about them having a meeting in Southern California so that would explain why they decided to do a run to the border trip.
[QUOTE=Racerxxx] This is a great place to find new girls just off the bus. I've found some young inexperienced gems there that I like to take upstairs and break in. I like the ones that cry because they're still kinda scared about the situation they're in. Answering an ad for a waitress job that turned out to be a bar chica upstairs in a $12 room with, well, me.
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Dude, you CAN'T be serious! You like it when you get a girl who thinks she's made a huge mistake and is in tears??
If it was a joke, OK. I didn't get it, but that's my problem. But if you're serious, you must be one sadistic MF.
[QUOTE=Phordphan]
But I've never been charged $6 at Cascadas, regardless of the entrance I used. Were you somehow getting the 15 minute SG rate?[/QUOTE]
Both HK and some street girls use Cascadas. You are right that the 2 rates for for different amounts of time: 15 minutes for $6 (actually $5.50) and 30 minutes for $12. It's not the entrance that makes the difference.
I've tried a street girl and an HK bar girl and both times it was the same lobby/entrance to Cascadas hotel where I paid. Somehow the guy already knew the girl was a street girl and charged only $6 for 15 minutes and charged $12 dollars for 30 minutes when I went in with the bar girl.
[QUOTE=Phordphan]Dude, you CAN'T be serious! You like it when you get a girl who thinks she's made a huge mistake and is in tears??
If it was a joke, OK. I didn't get it, but that's my problem. But if you're serious, you must be one sadistic MF.[/QUOTE]I may be a little on the sadistic side, but hey, I'm not there to save them. Every single chica was new at some point so, someone's gotta break them in...might as well be me.
[QUOTE=Efjayel]I've tried a street girl and an HK bar girl and both times it was the same lobby/entrance to Cascadas hotel where I paid. Somehow the guy already knew the girl was a street girl and charged only $6 for 15 minutes and charged $12 dollars for 30 minutes when I went in with the bar girl.[/QUOTE]It seems the guy behind the counter knows if she works the street or the bar. It appears he also keeps tally on how many times each girl comes up.
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[QUOTE=Racerxxx]I may be a little on the sadistic side, but hey, I'm not there to save them. Every single chica was new at some point so, someone's gotta break them in...might as well be me.[/QUOTE]As long as they do not start crying when they first see me naked.
I tried a girl from Tropical Bar once. She was really nice and playfull downstairs. But she was like brand spanking new because she told me she had been in TJ for like only one week. And unlike all other girls at the Zona she never once pestered or even asked me to go upstairs. I ended up being the pushy one to go upstairs. After some convincing, we finally went up. But upstairs she was really disdained. She even insisted we do it under the covers. And all she let me do was missionary and no other positions. I tried to get her to change positions but she wouldn't and after that she didn't even want to continue. After bugging her a bit I felt like a pervert trying to get her to continue so I just let it go. We ended up holding each other and talking for the rest of the time until the knock came. At least no crying was involved.
Ironically I bumped into her and her friend at a taco stand. This was New Years Eve. She told me they where going to Las Pulgas to celebrate. A few hours later after a session at Ab I went back to the taco stand for a last meal and saw her passing as she headed back to Tropical. She had told me she was staying at the hotel next to Tropical. Poor girl.
[QUOTE=Sgt Perv]As long as they do not start crying when they first see me naked.[/QUOTE]Maybe you should be the first one under the covers...? lol
Then when you screw her, you gotta do her from behind and every time she looks back over her shoulder, you give her a good hard spanking to keep her eyes forward.
Reminds me of a time I screwed a MP chica. The room had a mirror from wall to wall. I had her on her back spread eagle as I was standing at the edge of the massage table pounding away like the porn star I think I am. But, I couldn't help looking at myself in the mirror thinking, God Damn, I gotta lose weight!
[QUOTE=Efjayel]After some convincing, we finally went up. But upstairs she was really disdained. She even insisted we do it under the covers. And all she let me do was missionary and no other positions. I tried to get her to change positions but she wouldn't and after that she didn't even want to continue. After bugging her a bit I felt like a pervert trying to get her to continue so I just let it go. We ended up holding each other and talking for the rest of the time until the knock came. At least no crying was involved.[/QUOTE]I had one TB girl like that. She didn't want to get on top and she didn't want to do doggy. I told her in spanish, "Tienes que aprender!"(You have to learn!) I told her the AB girls do way more without any problems. She gave in. I think she expected a little extra $ when I paid her. I guess that's three things she learned that afternoon.
[QUOTE=Sgt Perv]As long as they do not start crying when they first see me naked.[/QUOTE]Would you prefer they laugh?
[QUOTE=Surfnk9]Would you prefer they laugh?[/QUOTE]Either way is not a good sign.
Could you imagine continuing after this?
[QUOTE=Phordphan]The Divine Ms. S had been complaining that her favorite vibrator stopped working, mid-orgasm, a couple of weeks back. She appeared to be very frustrated, and couldn't find anyone to fix it. :) So, I'd promised to get her one. Picked up a gold colored one at the local porn shop on Tuesday.
......
So, the standard 2 beers for me, 4 drinks for her, and long discussions about vibrators. :) Arriba was great, standard hour, shower, DATY, BBBJCIMWS (she bragged twice about eating it all), nice massage, giggles and cuddles. Standard $80.
PP
P.S. - Here's a last fuzzy cam-phone pic I just ran across.[/QUOTE]Dude,
Ever since I read your posts about the divine Ms S. , I have looked for her each time I went to HK but never had any luck. I usually hit the zona on Saturday, Sunday or Monday but this week I thought I would try a Tuesday afternoon.
I hopped on Transportes Intercalifornias in Santa Ana ($18) at about 4:15 pm and was walking across the border just after 6 pm. Took a Cab to the Zona and was inside HK before 6:30.
Took a lap around downstairs and upstairs checking out every female in the place. If I thought I could get away with checking the ladies room, believe me I would have checked there as well. I posted up in the middle across from the jacuzzi thinking I was in for another disappointment and ordered a bottled water to keep the bar flys away. Everytime one would approach to get a drink sale I would hold up my water and it worked like Kryptonite.
I had checked the 3 pics you posted of Salma before I left so I was sure I could pick her out if she was working. Anyway I was pretty sure she wasn't working as I did not see anyone that looked like the fuzzy phone pics.
So as I was waiting for them to fill the jacuzzi I was approached by this small chica who spoke decent English. I looked at her and she didn't look like Salma so I wasn't really interested. As she continued talking I noticed a mole on her chin (see pic on 5/15/08) and a gold chain (see pic on 5/29/08) she was wearing that looked familiar. I asked her name and she said Salma. I thought this doesn't look at all like the pics so I asked where she was from and she said Michoacan. I still wasn't sure so I offered a fiche and she accepted. (By the way I think the waiter asked her name and she said "Flor"? ) We sat in a booth for about 15 minutes of small talk and I was finally convinced this was in fact the divine Ms. S. So without further delay I took this meeting to the next level and booked the room for 1 hour.
The session was just like I like it. She was horny and wanted to crack one just as bad as I did so there was none of that fake moaning that I find very irritating. She was very accomodating as we did multiple positions including CG, reverse CG where she rode Mr. Johnson like a rodeo champion. The knock came 15 minutes late and I paid her $80 for a job well done.
Thanks for your reports Phordphan. I owe you a beer.
I stopped in Adelitas on my way out and caught the 11 pm bus back to Santa Ana. Let me caution anyone catching the bus at this hour to make sure the driver is fully aware that you are going to Santa Ana if that is where you are going. I fell asleep on the way back and the driver didn't stop until he got to Compton! Wtf? Anyway I tell him my stop is Santa Ana and he mumbles something in Spanish and continues driving and dropping people off here and there until finally. Here I am at the last stop. Downtown LA at 2:30 am. Everyone is off the bus. But me. My job is about 7 blocks from there but I am not going to work at 3 in the morning so I just sit there to see what happens. The driver has a guy (a translator) come on the bus who tells me, "thats it man, last stop". I play dumb and say what do you mean? My ticket says Santa Ana and the driver did not stop. The translator then says the driver said he can put me on the next bus to Santa Ana at 3:30 or I could wait until his next run at 5 am. I told the guy I'll take the 3:30 am run and we get off the bus. After we get off the guy tells the driver I'll take the 3:30 trip but then they tell me their friend is driving to Tijuana right now and he can drop me in Santa Ana for a small fee. I ask how much and they say $30. I say NO WAY and then the bus driver gives the guy $20 to drop me off at Santa Ana and off I go with my new chauffeur. 30 minutes later I am in my car and on my way home.
This trip and report turned out to be a little longer than I expected but worth it.
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[QUOTE=Underdog9]Dude,
Ever since I read your posts about the divine Ms S. , I have looked for her each time I went to HK but never had any luck. I usually hit the zona on Saturday, Sunday or Monday but this week I thought I would try a Tuesday afternoon.
I hopped on Transportes Intercalifornias in Santa Ana ($18) at about 4:15 pm and was walking across the border just after 6 pm. Took a Cab to the Zona and was inside HK before 6:30.
Took a lap around downstairs and upstairs checking out every female in the place. If I thought I could get away with checking the ladies room, believe me I would have checked there as well. I posted up in the middle across from the jacuzzi thinking I was in for another disappointment and ordered a bottled water to keep the bar flys away. Everytime one would approach to get a drink sale I would hold up my water and it worked like Kryptonite.
I had checked the 3 pics you posted of Salma before I left so I was sure I could pick her out if she was working. Anyway I was pretty sure she wasn't working as I did not see anyone that looked like the fuzzy phone pics.
So as I was waiting for them to fill the jacuzzi I was approached by this small chica who spoke decent English. I looked at her and she didn't look like Salma so I wasn't really interested. As she continued talking I noticed a mole on her chin (see pic on 5/15/08) and a gold chain (see pic on 5/29/08) she was wearing that looked familiar. I asked her name and she said Salma. I thought this doesn't look at all like the pics so I asked where she was from and she said Michoacan. I still wasn't sure so I offered a fiche and she accepted. (By the way I think the waiter asked her name and she said "Flor"? ) We sat in a booth for about 15 minutes of small talk and I was finally convinced this was in fact the divine Ms. S. So without further delay I took this meeting to the next level and booked the room for 1 hour.
The session was just like I like it. She was horny and wanted to crack one just as bad as I did so there was none of that fake moaning that I find very irritating. She was very accomodating as we did multiple positions including CG, reverse CG where she rode Mr. Johnson like a rodeo champion. The knock came 15 minutes late and I paid her $80 for a job well done.
Thanks for your reports Phordphan. I owe you a beer.
I stopped in Adelitas on my way out and caught the 11 pm bus back to Santa Ana. Let me caution anyone catching the bus at this hour to make sure the driver is fully aware that you are going to Santa Ana if that is where you are going. I fell asleep on the way back and the driver didn't stop until he got to Compton! Wtf? Anyway I tell him my stop is Santa Ana and he mumbles something in Spanish and continues driving and dropping people off here and there until finally. Here I am at the last stop. Downtown LA at 2:30 am. Everyone is off the bus. But me. My job is about 7 blocks from there but I am not going to work at 3 in the morning so I just sit there to see what happens. The driver has a guy (a translator) come on the bus who tells me, "thats it man, last stop". I play dumb and say what do you mean? My ticket says Santa Ana and the driver did not stop. The translator then says the driver said he can put me on the next bus to Santa Ana at 3:30 or I could wait until his next run at 5 am. I told the guy I'll take the 3:30 am run and we get off the bus. After we get off the guy tells the driver I'll take the 3:30 trip but then they tell me their friend is driving to Tijuana right now and he can drop me in Santa Ana for a small fee. I ask how much and they say $30. I say NO WAY and then the bus driver gives the guy $20 to drop me off at Santa Ana and off I go with my new chauffeur. 30 minutes later I am in my car and on my way home.
This trip and report turned out to be a little longer than I expected but worth it.
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Wow. I'm jealous!! :)
She goes by the name of Salma in the bar, but she used to go by Flor, especially in the old days when Miami and HK were conjoined. The meseros and hotel guys all know her as Flor. It's a take-off on her real last name.
She gives some of the best service in the zona, even though she's a bit past her prime. Also, she's lost a bit of weight and started dressing a lot more flashy, so she looks a lot different than she used to.
Some friends give me some good-natured grief for sticking with her, but such service is so hard to find, it's difficult to break myself of the habit!! :)
She's really sweet and very appreciative of little things. I've done several small favors for her over the last few years, and she really does seem to remember.
If you're around CC on Tuesday afternoon, you can buy me that beer!!
[QUOTE=One Wing Low]Hi Dog,
This is good info. However, the SA office was saying last bus leaving San Ysidro is 8PM, which would really interfere with La Zona schedule.
Please explain where and how you can find buses leaving San Ysidro later in the night.[/QUOTE]
Where did you get Santa Ana Bus Depot schedules? I can't find anything on the web site. I guess I could call but I'm too lazy.
Greyhound can take you to San Ysidro, probably cleaner and safer than Santa Ana Taco Express!
Yeah but I need a bus that has a scheduled stop from a bus stop to the TJ border and back. I would think Greyhound is a lot more expensive. How much is the Santa Ana ride to Tj?
[QUOTE=Efjayel]Yeah but I need a bus that has a scheduled stop from a bus stop to the TJ border and back. I would think Greyhound is a lot more expensive. How much is the Santa Ana ride to Tj?[/QUOTE][url]http://www.greyhound.com/home/TicketCenter/en/locations.asp?state=ca[/url]
[QUOTE=Phordphan]Wow. I'm jealous!! :)
She goes by the name of Salma in the bar, but she used to go by Flor, especially in the old days when Miami and HK were conjoined. The meseros and hotel guys all know her as Flor. It's a take-off on her real last name.
She gives some of the best service in the zona, even though she's a bit past her prime. Also, she's lost a bit of weight and started dressing a lot more flashy, so she looks a lot different than she used to.
Some friends give me some good-natured grief for sticking with her, but such service is so hard to find, it's difficult to break myself of the habit!! :)
She's really sweet and very appreciative of little things. I've done several small favors for her over the last few years, and she really does seem to remember.
If you're around CC on Tuesday afternoon, you can buy me that beer!![/QUOTE]She did give excellent service working hard to make sure I was satisfied. She was much smaller than the fuzzy pics which is why it was so difficult to recognize her. Do you know what diet she was on? I need to lose about 20 pounds.
I can't make it Tuesday afternoon but I should be around early next week.
[QUOTE=Efjayel]Where did you get Santa Ana Bus Depot schedules? I can't find anything on the web site. I guess I could call but I'm too lazy. [/QUOTE]Efjayel,
Please bear with me as I try to interpret the Transportes Intercalifornias web page. My Espanol sucks.
It appears to say that there is an 11:30 pm departure from San Ysidro to Santa Ana on Friday, Saturday, Sunday and Monday only.
[url]http://www.intercalifornias.com/sanysidro.html[/url]
(I was definitely there Tuesday and I bought a ticket with San Ysidro to Santa Ana printed on it. There were about 8 other passengers but I was the only passenger to Santa Ana.)
However, if you look at the Tijuana departures I see there is a 10: 45 pm departure from Tijuana to Santa Ana Monday thru Friday.
[url]http://www.intercalifornias.com/tijuana.html[/url]
Comparing the schedules it appears the buses leaving Tijuana stop in San Ysidro as the Tijuana departure times lead the San Ysidro times by 45 minutes to 1 hour but this is only speculation. If this is not the case and you find yourself in la zona Tuesday, Wednesday or Thursday you can hop on the bus in Tijuana at Ave. Paseo Tijuana # 9030, Zona Rio Tel. (664) 683-62-81 and 683-6282 (which I believe is the main street just across the border).
Next time you are in Tijuana you can stop by the Transportes Intercalifornias office. They have a sign behind the counter with the departure times and you can ask the guy at the counter for more information.
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[QUOTE=One Wing Low]Hi Dog,
This is good info. However, the SA office was saying last bus leaving San Ysidro is 8PM, which would really interfere with La Zona schedule.
Please explain where and how you can find buses leaving San Ysidro later in the night.[/QUOTE]One Wing Low,
I agree if the last departure is at 8 PM you have to question is it worth while to make the trip down but I have in most instances caught my return bus between 10 pm and 11:30 pm.
The greyhound bus terminal closes at 8 pm but they have buses departing after that hour. (Check the schedule on Greyhound's website before you leave home at [url]http://www.greyhound.com/home/[/url]). Buses departing after the office is closed will be parked right next to the office and will have either a Greyhound or a Crucero logo. To get to the Greyhound terminal when you return to the US side of the border, walk across the trolley tracks, make a hard right and walk to the end of the building.
I believe the Transportes Intercalifornias office is open at least until the last bus departure. I have caught their bus from San Ysidro after 11 pm several times and the office was still open at that time. Their office is located right across the street from Jack in the Box.
[QUOTE=HornyTraveler]Greyhound can take you to San Ysidro, probably cleaner and safer than Santa Ana Taco Express! [/QUOTE]HornyTraveler,
There are advantages and disadvantages for Greyhound/Crucero and Transportes Intercalifornias.
Greyhound/Crucero buses might be a little cleaner and their staff can communicate in English (for those of us who cannot speak Spanish). They have a late/early bus that departs San Ysidro at 12:55 am bound for Los Angeles but Santa Ana is not a scheduled stop. (I have taken the 12:55 am bus to Santa Ana on at least 2 occasions dealing directly with the bus driver.)
Greyhound/Crucero buses going South often have more stops including Oceanside and San Diego before arriving in San Ysidro which adds 30 minutes or more to the trip. Also the drop off point in San Ysidro is at the Greyhound bus station which is on the east side of I-5. To cross over to Tijuana you have to go up the ramps, across the bridge and down the ramps on the west side. (This isn't a long walk but why not avoid it if you can.) These ramps may close daily in the early morning hours as I can remember arriving after 2 am on different occasions and the ramps were closed and locked. To cross the border I had to take a considerably longer walk north on E. San Ysidro Bl, west on Camino de la Plaza on the bridge across I-5 and back south on Camiones Way (about 3/4 of a mile total).
Transportes Intercalifornias goes directly from Santa Ana to San Ysidro nonstop and you get dropped off on the west side of I-5 which is a very short walk to the border (maybe 75 to 100 yards). The buses are usually less crowded as well.
I prefer to ride Transportes Intercalifornias south from Santa Ana and return on Greyhound/Crucero.
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[QUOTE=Phordphan]Wow. I'm jealous!! :)
She goes by the name of Salma in the bar, but she used to go by Flor, especially in the old days when Miami and HK were conjoined. The meseros and hotel guys all know her as Flor. It's a take-off on her real last name.
She gives some of the best service in the zona, even though she's a bit past her prime. Also, she's lost a bit of weight and started dressing a lot more flashy, so she looks a lot different than she used to.
Some friends give me some good-natured grief for sticking with her, but such service is so hard to find, it's difficult to break myself of the habit!! :)
She's really sweet and very appreciative of little things. I've done several small favors for her over the last few years, and she really does seem to remember.
If you're around CC on Tuesday afternoon, you can buy me that beer!![/QUOTE]
I'm glad She's still on top of her game. I've writen before that she's an honest provider and never fails to please her customers. We had long talks about her work during our many TLN's. I spent time off property with her, chatting about her life and her kids etc. If she dropped 20 pounds then she is most likely looking good and any monger who wants a great session should book her.
She's great on TLN's by the way and she might go to the hotel with you but be warned: she MUST watch her Novella (I think it starts at 9PM).
I understand she no longer lives at Cascades and that she has a place in TJ. I gor other reports that she has a steady boyfriend or perhaps a PLM.
Salma ("Just like Selma Hyak but a different girl!") is a fun chica. Be nice to her and treat her right. She has a good heart and would NEVER turn bad on you. I have a lot of pictures of her but promised never to share them.
Country John
[QUOTE=Underdog9]Efjayel,
Please bear with me as I try to interpret the Transportes Intercalifornias web page. My Espanol sucks.
It appears to say that there is an 11:30 pm departure from San Ysidro to Santa Ana on Friday, Saturday, Sunday and Monday only.
[url]http://www.intercalifornias.com/sanysidro.html[/url]
(I was definitely there Tuesday and I bought a ticket with San Ysidro to Santa Ana printed on it. There were about 8 other passengers but I was the only passenger to Santa Ana.)
However, if you look at the Tijuana departures I see there is a 10: 45 pm departure from Tijuana to Santa Ana Monday thru Friday.
[url]http://www.intercalifornias.com/tijuana.html[/url]
Comparing the schedules it appears the buses leaving Tijuana stop in San Ysidro as the Tijuana departure times lead the San Ysidro times by 45 minutes to 1 hour but this is only speculation. If this is not the case and you find yourself in la zona Tuesday, Wednesday or Thursday you can hop on the bus in Tijuana at Ave. Paseo Tijuana # 9030, Zona Rio Tel. (664) 683-62-81 and 683-6282 (which I believe is the main street just across the border).
Next time you are in Tijuana you can stop by the Transportes Intercalifornias office. They have a sign behind the counter with the departure times and you can ask the guy at the counter for more information.
[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the info. But that website doesn't mention where the bus stations are. It mentions Central L.A. which is basically where I live at, but doesn't say the address of where the bus leaves from. Also how much are the tickets? And how long of a ride usually is it to San Ysidro? Also what about bathroom breaks? Or does the bus have a bathroom?
[QUOTE=Efjayel]Thanks for the info. But that website doesn't mention where the bus stations are. It mentions Central L.A. which is basically where I live at, but doesn't say the address of where the bus leaves from. Also how much are the tickets? And how long of a ride usually is it to San Ysidro? Also what about bathroom breaks? Or does the bus have a bathroom?[/QUOTE]The Centro de Los Angeles office is in downtown LA on 7th and Maple. Bus terminal addresses and phone numbers are at the bottom of each page showing scheduled departures.
Ticket prices from downtown LA are the same as from Santa Ana. $18 One Way and $24 Round Trip.
The website lists departure times but not the time of arrival at the destination. It looks like the Southbound buses from downtown LA stop in Santa Ana on their way to San Ysidro. Avoiding peak hour traffic, from Santa Ana to San Ysidro you can plan on 1 hour and 30 minutes. If you want to leave from downtown LA that can add 1 hour and 15 minutes making it about a 2 hour and 45 minute trip. I know it doesn't take 1 hour and 15 minutes to get from downtown LA to Santa Ana but I believe that is how they plan it comparing the Centro Los Angeles and Santa Ana schedules.
The buses have bathrooms.
[QUOTE=Efjayel] Or does the bus have a bathroom?[/QUOTE]
Keep that Gatorade bottle!
[QUOTE=Country John]I'm glad She's still on top of her game. I've writen before that she's an honest provider and never fails to please her customers. We had long talks about her work during our many TLN's. I spent time off property with her, chatting about her life and her kids etc. If she dropped 20 pounds then she is most likely looking good and any monger who wants a great session should book her.
She's great on TLN's by the way and she might go to the hotel with you but be warned: she MUST watch her Novella (I think it starts at 9PM).
I understand she no longer lives at Cascades and that she has a place in TJ. I gor other reports that she has a steady boyfriend or perhaps a PLM.
Salma ("Just like Selma Hyak but a different girl!") is a fun chica. Be nice to her and treat her right. She has a good heart and would NEVER turn bad on you. I have a lot of pictures of her but promised never to share them.
Country John[/QUOTE]
No, no! Underdog needs to lose 20 lbs. Salma lost some weight, but I don't think it approaches that much.
Our last TLN fell apart cuz the babysitter flaked, her daughter took off and left the other kids alone, etc., etc. Oh, the drama! :)
She has her own place. She told me the neighborhood, but I've already forgotten. Apparently, it's not such a good neighborhood. She's trying to buy a house in Michoacan.
She texts me a LOT. It can be very entertaining trying to figure out exactly what she's trying to say!
Still married to some flake who lives in SD somewhere. She's been trying to get child support for ages.... Pobrecita!
thanks for the info underdog. ironically i've never heard of intercalifas buses until you mentioned them and coincidentially while driving to work yesterday i saw one of the buses on the hollywood freeway going north. weird :)
[quote=hornytraveler]keep that gatorade bottle![/quote]
that almost happened once on one of my trips to tj. but it was a water bottle and when i parked to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url] in it, i felt like i was going to get caught so even though i was dying to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url], i couldn't [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url]. so i instead kept driving until i found a place. i ended up peeing a tiny spot on my pants. and you know how the chicas like to grab your crotch when you sit with them, i had to catch their hands and act playfull with their hands just to prevent them from touching my [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url] stain. lol, it was funny.
I know those buses , I've seen them on the fwy, silver in color old and dirty. I think they take farm workers from to San Jose, Modesto, Fresno, Oxnard etc, to from the border, but I'm not sure.
Check for tire thread before getting in, I doubt they have working brakes LOL!
I saw a guy making out (kissing, touching) with one in a booth upstairs last night. She didn't look like she was into it, but wasn't pushing him away.
[QUOTE=One Wing Low]I stayed in HK until midnight, hoping to find the models like Alejandra or Chantal. But they were not there. Could not find any chica worth doing, so just hang out watching the strip show.
Between strippers, the club put dozens of the cheerleaders, wearing their white saches, on the stage. They were shy and self-conscious, obviously not pros. Most did not even expect tips and got very few. There was one with a young, tall, lanky body, pretty face, long legs, flat tummy, with a fresh, innocent beauty. She looks about 18 or 19.
I was salivating and wanted her badly, but all she would do is the ficha drinks. She would not even go to the lap dance booths, left alone the slimy Cascada hotel. I was very sad.
Have to hang out some more and try to seduce these semi pros. Anybody scored with these babes?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=One Wing Low]Have to hang out some more and try to seduce these semi pros. Anybody scored with these babes?[/QUOTE]
Who are these semi pros? Girls that walked in off the street?
Is this the same Alejandra and friends in Youtube?
On youtube they are referred to as Edecanes.
I am not sure what that means.
[QUOTE=HornyTraveler]Is this the same Alejandra and friends in Youtube?[/QUOTE]
Link me please.
[QUOTE=Efjayel]Link me please.[/QUOTE]Edecan means Escort.
The link (or at least A link) is here:
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=poFQIG0EgVc[/url]
Why are there caeras in the club now? Whay are they showing shot of everyone on the big screen? Is any one else bothered by this? The collective we needs to tell HK admin to stop this!
[QUOTE=Efjayel]Link me please.[/QUOTE]
That's the youtube video ewclark77 posted.
Oh my god.
I go to Brazil to do some hard core.
No holds barred mongering
And come back to this.
It is really disappointing.
I know that some people give me grief and some people love the pics.
But what amateurs you guys are.
I hate to sound condescending, but the word pathetic really comes to mind.
The girl in the VIdeo of EDECANS (escorts) is Camila- Great body if you like them skinny nice girl.
Used to work at AB, then when they lose all Dignity they go to work at HK so that guys can put their gross mechanics' greasy fingers in their pussy's for a buck or tweek their nipples for a buck.
Shit we have all done it. They are *****s. They know the territory, get used to it
Perhaps their high school counselour forgot to tell them that when they become *****s they are gonna have to do gross shit to gross men. You know who you are
Here is her phone number. I think it is disconnected. Give it a whirl. I know that there is some jerk off out there that is gonna dial it. Be my guest.
664 358- 6900.
I would give you my other bitches number, but I am not done fucking her yet--I posted her pics a while back.
She got penalized at HK for not showing up for a shift on a Monday which was Frijolero day I think (note slang.- not meant to be racist. So she goes to work at another bar, which I don't want to identify because I don't want to wait to fuck her when I get down there.
She usually shows up at my hotel like clock work, unless of course she had a bigger better offer from her Asian/Chinese clients.
Remember, its not your girl, just your turn!
[QUOTE=Dermdoc58]Oh my god.
I go to Brazil to do some hard core.
No holds barred mongering
And come back to this.[/QUOTE]
I have been going off topic a bit haven't I? Well that's me, I can't help it at times and tend to derail the subject. But whatever.
Hey Spermdoc, I saw your pics from Brazil, seems you still give out the same bad quality type of photos. I also ran into a few of your quotes worth linking to. Apparently you seem to be hurt by some of our remarks. I didn't realize you where so sensitive. Didn't your mom tell you not to take comments on the internet so seriously? :rolleyes: Oh well.
Also It's funny, you mention being a dermatologist and practically being an expert in genital diseases and how it's an epidemic but in many of your pics, we see you getting blowjobs without a condom.
As for your pics, I think you could a lot better if you reduced the intensity of the flash. Cause a strong flash reveals more than what can be seen by the naked eye, basically making the girls look ugly.
And oh yeah, here's the link to your quotes and what appears to be the foot of the elephant man. :eek:
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If you HAVE TO travel to Brazil for hard core mongering then most people know you do not have much game. The better your game, the easier it is to monger anywhere. So Brazil seems like a great place for the amateur to practice their game. Real mongers know, if you have game, you are not limited.
That chick isn't that bad.
[QUOTE=Tjmee]That chick isn't that bad.[/QUOTE]
Not that good, either. :)
Great time at HKC last week. I sessioned "Butterfly" and she brought a busty friend, whose name I can't remember, dressed in a rabbit-themed bikini. $140 for both.complete GFE in the room with DFK and BBBJs from both girls simultaneously. Ultimate lesbian threesome with rabbit-girl laying under Butterfly and licking her pussy (and my dick) while I fucked her doggy style. I didn't even have to change condoms when I switched to fuck rabbit-girl. At the end, I took off the cover and exploded on both their bodies. They seemed really into it. Butterfly gave me her number, but I lost it. A completely uninhibited session. A+++
Honor to shake the hand that shook the dick that fucked that blond.
Hkc is a ripoff. You can get cheaper and better on the street. Just have to take your time on your pickins.
[QUOTE=Rewsna]Hkc is a ripoff. You can get cheaper and better on the street. Just have to take your time on your pickins.[/QUOTE]
And what if I take my whole day picking out the perfect street girl but then she ends up being a total dud upstairs? Money lost. The Zona can be a game of chance. Just because a girl is from a bar, doesn't neccessarily mean she's gonna suck(so to speak). Street girls do tend to be cheaper, but when it comes to getting everything, that includes multiple positions, oral and complete nudity, they can end up charging as much as a bar chick. Try whatever you like, street or bar girl, even massage parlor girl but don't expect one will always result in a better experience.
[QUOTE=Efjayel]And what if I take my whole day picking out the perfect street girl but then she ends up being a total dud upstairs? Money lost. The Zona can be a game of chance. Just because a girl is from a bar, doesn't neccessarily mean she's gonna suck(so to speak). Street girls do tend to be cheaper, but when it comes to getting everything, that includes multiple positions, oral and complete nudity, they can end up charging as much as a bar chick. Try whatever you like, street or bar girl, even massage parlor girl but don't expect one will always result in a better experience.[/QUOTE]
Developing rapport with a gal is the key. If she knows you will treat her decently, her performance quality increases. Until you find that diamond in the rough you have to do your best to find the best bang for the buck. Once you do, they are worth their weight in gold. It doesn’t take much. While hanging out with a hot, tight chica at HK, she had to bum cigarettes from the waiter. On a bathroom break, I ran across the street and bought a pack from the store for a couple bucks. You would have thought I bought her a diamond ring the way she appreciated it. It definitely paid off in our session. She was at the end of her shift and we ended going out dancing; then another great session.
In general if you treat her like a piece of meat, she’ll treat you like a dirty cash machine. Yes the reality is they would rather be doing something else, but since they do what they do, if you treat them nice, they are more likely to reciprocate.
I guess some of you guys are lucky because you get more than a simple session upstairs. I've tried being nice with this one girl. Like an idiot I even bought her a small gold necklace. Don't worry they where having a huge sale like 60 percent off so I only paid like $15 bucks for it. It was for her birthday. The first time I tried to give it to her, she wasn't there. I bumped into one of her chica friends at the bar. I mentioned I had brought a present. Her friend wanted me to give it to her so she can give it to the birthday girl. I politely said no, and that I was the only one that should give it to her. Well she obviously told her cause the next time I went, she asked about the present. I gave it to her then. She was really happy and appreciative about it.
We had a nice session but thats about it. She's one of my favorites so I've been trying to get her to go out with me and hopefully have an all nighter or something. But she still refuses me. She's given me her phone number and I've even called her, but everytime I do she is very despondent to want to talk and always tries to end the conversation as quickly as possible. So I just stopped calling her.
[QUOTE=Efjayel]I guess some of you guys are lucky because you get more than a simple session upstairs. I've tried being nice with this one girl. Like an idiot I even bought her a small gold necklace. Don't worry they where having a huge sale like 60 percent off so I only paid like $15 bucks for it. It was for her birthday. The first time I tried to give it to her, she wasn't there. I bumped into one of her chica friends at the bar. I mentioned I had brought a present. Her friend wanted me to give it to her so she can give it to the birthday girl. I politely said no, and that I was the only one that should give it to her. Well she obviously told her cause the next time I went, she asked about the present. I gave it to her then. She was really happy and appreciative about it.
We had a nice session but thats about it. She's one of my favorites so I've been trying to get her to go out with me and hopefully have an all nighter or something. But she still refuses me. She's given me her phone number and I've even called her, but everytime I do she is very despondent to want to talk and always tries to end the conversation as quickly as possible. So I just stopped calling her.[/QUOTE]She has no interest in you.Dont chase her she will see you as $$$
I was looking to see if anybody else had same experience with this chick. Her description: long black straight hair, 4'11", toned body, says she's 19, good english, one of the main dancer chicks. Always gets crowds when shes dancing, says she lived in Escondido with her sister, tattoo on back, good bullsh*tter, does alot of kissing in the booth.
First time I saw her, maybe 2 months ago, as soon as I I walked in, she kept checking me out. Watched her dance, then sat with her. She didn't ask for drinks, but I bought her 1. I know some HK strippers won't go to the room for under $100, so didn't even ask. The chick sits with me for like 2 hrs, finally I ask. She tells me she usually doesn't go, only dances. Anyway, end of nite, she changes her mind. Gave the perfect GF experience, BBBJ, kind of moans "f*ck me baby", so busted a nut pretty easy. Based on the first experience, I thought she was pretty cool, good in the room, didn't ask for any drinks or other crap.
Went back next weekend, saw her immediately, once again sit with her for like 2 hrs, only asks for 1 drink, even with the waiters bothering us constantly. Then she tells me she's loooking for a boyfriend, blah, blah. I'm 30, and young looking and she's telling me she's tired of all these old, fat guys coming in and that she really likes me, and I'm not just a regular customer. Blah. Blah. That nite, she stopped by my hotel after work. I had a room at Cascade, and she stayed for 2 hours for free. I banged the sh*t out of her, once again she's all into. I busted 2 nuts, and she gives GF experience. Didn't even ask for taxi $$.
OK, so everything sounds cool now right? I gave her my #, she calls me a few times over the next week, giving me all this sh*t about how much she likes me. She's a hot little chick, so I'm thinking I might start going out with her, she sounds sincere. But as I find out, it was just a way to get me to go to the club. After that, she quits on the freebies, even when she would come to my hotel after work, she would suddenly get all pissed if I said I didn't have any cash. She even threw a big ***** fit one night when I only had $40. That was like 2 weeks ago, so I haven't been back to see her.
Anyway, after this happened, I would go to HK on her day off, and I heard from a few other dudes at HK, that is her MO with other dudes, she plays this GF thing, giving her sob story about her family and how she hates her job, just looking for a boyfriend. She might go out with you 1 time, saying she's into you, then she starts acting all business and asking for $$$. Just trying to find out if anyone else knows this chick or was able to get any freebies from her. I didn't, but if ya play it right, ya might get at least 1 freebie out of it.
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[QUOTE=The Dutchman]I was looking to see if anybody else had same experience with this chick. Her description: long black straight hair, 4'11", toned body, says she's 19, good english, one of the main dancer chicks. Always gets crowds when shes dancing, says she lived in Escondido with her sister, tattoo on back, good bullsh*tter, does alot of kissing in the booth.
First time I saw her, maybe 2 months ago, as soon as I I walked in, she kept checking me out. Watched her dance, then sat with her. She didn't ask for drinks, but I bought her 1. I know some HK strippers won't go to the room for under $100, so didn't even ask. The chick sits with me for like 2 hrs, finally I ask. She tells me she usually doesn't go, only dances. Anyway, end of nite, she changes her mind. Gave the perfect GF experience, BBBJ, kind of moans "f*ck me baby", so busted a nut pretty easy. Based on the first experience, I thought she was pretty cool, good in the room, didn't ask for any drinks or other crap.
Went back next weekend, saw her immediately, once again sit with her for like 2 hrs, only asks for 1 drink, even with the waiters bothering us constantly. Then she tells me she's loooking for a boyfriend, blah, blah. I'm 30, and young looking and she's telling me she's tired of all these old, fat guys coming in and that she really likes me, and I'm not just a regular customer. Blah. Blah. That nite, she stopped by my hotel after work. I had a room at Cascade, and she stayed for 2 hours for free. I banged the sh*t out of her, once again she's all into. I busted 2 nuts, and she gives GF experience. Didn't even ask for taxi $$.
OK, so everything sounds cool now right? I gave her my #, she calls me a few times over the next week, giving me all this sh*t about how much she likes me. She's a hot little chick, so I'm thinking I might start going out with her, she sounds sincere. But as I find out, it was just a way to get me to go to the club. After that, she quits on the freebies, even when she would come to my hotel after work, she would suddenly get all pissed if I said I didn't have any cash. She even threw a big ***** fit one night when I only had $40. That was like 2 weeks ago, so I haven't been back to see her.
Anyway, after this happened, I would go to HK on her day off, and I heard from a few other dudes at HK, that is her MO with other dudes, she plays this GF thing, giving her sob story about her family and how she hates her job, just looking for a boyfriend. She might go out with you 1 time, saying she's into you, then she starts acting all business and asking for $$$. Just trying to find out if anyone else knows this chick or was able to get any freebies from her. I didn't, but if ya play it right, ya might get at least 1 freebie out of it.
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Hi Dutchman and thanks for the post.
Many working girls seek an opportunity go get out of the business, when a candidate comes along, they try to hitch a ride out of the Zona and on to another life. Many girls seek an opportunity to fleece a willing candidate of all his money in exchange for what is perceived as free service, but in reality many are left in the sticky dark, alone. Some are heartbroken.
It's tough to distringuish between the two and a mistake can be very expensive as many here will no doubt testify. So how do you know? The truth is you don't. Ther real question is:"Do you feel lucky?" Because it's more luck than anything else.
Girls make a decision to cross the line and sell sex for money. It's a bigger deal for the girl than for the guy. After years of catering to anyone willing to pay they develop a skill set that they can use as a tool of their trade or to get out. Some have pimps or husband/boyfriends and can't move at all.
The entire relationship with a hooker or former hooker will revolve around money, not love. The one way to find out right now, is to pull back on the money. If she goes, then it was a money deal etc.
Looking for love in the Zona is like walking through a minefield. You might make it, you might not. There are other venues besides the minefield, you know, there are many beautiful Mexican girls who would love to be a part of your life and if you show them your heart, they'll give you their life.
Don't EVER take a strike out in the Zona personally. It's business, purely business. Many working girls will play you like a fiddle as hard and as long as they can. You wouldn't believe some of the games or stories you get for money. Many girls are looking for suckers because they know they are out there and they know that some guys have a weakness when it comes to pussy; they just pay up when the bell rings.
Don't believe a word that comes out of their mouth.
Be safe and be nice
Country John
Ok Country John,
Actually I wasn't trying to say I that I was falling for this chick or didn't know any better about these chicks. I am curious if any other dudes had the same experience with this chick? But more importantly, I'm just letting guys know they can probably get a freebie from her if ya play it right, at least 1 time. It just won't last long, then it'll be all business with her, so don't get your hopes up. Sh*t, I've been going to MX/TJ for 10 years, been scammed and scammed a few chicks along the way. So I know for the most part you can't believe a thing these chicks say.
Now I will say, going back 10 years, when I was like 21 or 22, I used to hit Chicago alot. My buddy was friends with a chick working there. She introduced me to her friend, a shy little 18/19 year old new girl from Guadalajara that wore braces. For a nice little 6 month period, I would go down there, wait for her to get off work, and we'd go to Revelucion, and I'd get a hotel over at Nelson, I'd bang her for an hour, she'd leave, and never ask for a penny. It was great, didn't have to treat her like a girlfriend, she could f*ck good, and didn't ask for anything. I went overseas for 6 months, and didn't see her again. I heard later on, she did marry a Navy dude though. So I guess it happens.
[QUOTE=Country John]It's business, purely business.
Country John[/QUOTE]Of course it is business for the prostitute, although some prostitutes become addicted, too. "Getting out of the life" isn't merely about the money, IMO. For some, it is a compulsive, self-destructive behavior that involves elements of addiction, such as shame, dishonesty, risk and anxiety, and issues of control and relief.
But it isn't business for me, it's a compulsion, because it involves excitement, or anxiety, depending on one's definition, similar to the excitement or anxiety that some people experience when they sit down at a blackjack table. While there are some "professional" gamblers, the successful gamblers rarely, if ever, veer from the mathematical calculations or other "rules" that assist them in winning. I also refer to mongering as a hobby, but it is distinct from a "hobby" in a variety of ways, particularly that I wouldn't keep a secret of my other hobbies, even if my other hobbies involved some risk. For example, in common language, we don't usually refer to bungie jumpers as hobbyists, but rather refer to them as "thrill seekers. " I like the chase, searching for the great score, like a compulsive shopper is looking for the best deal, even if they only saved a few pennies or dollars. I don't necessarily like the risk, but the risk creates an element of excitement and anxiety. And unlike the "bargain shopper, " mongering in TJ isn't a bargain, unless one lives close to the border. For the price of gas, the time, the drinks, and the fees, a monger could bang a reliable escort (but what fun would that be; that would merely be a f ck. The "compulsive shopper, " on the other hand, makes impulsive or obsessive purchases, which are compulsive because the impulsive or obsessive purchases eventually bring shame, and possibly financial hardship, to the compulsive shopper. The monger who walks the alley and visits the various bars, searching for the "right" girl, is acting obsessively, since, if he merely wanted to get laid, he would just get laid and get it over with. That wouldn't be any fun for me, however, as I want to peruse the BG and SG before I make my selection (s).
Interesting hobby that we have, some of us.
And CJ, I agree with everything that you wrote.
Just my. 02
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In the years past I have always thought of our hobby as fun, exciting and so on.
I did not fall for some little senorita, As time passes by and frequenting many bars on Rev. And La zona I became a little known around town no big deal.
Anyway for a couple of years I would always hook up with this little gal, and we would go dancing or hit other bars and at times I ran out of money and she and her friends would envite me to go with them and they would pay.
The one thing I never forgot was that this is still business with no real commitments, I screwed myself silly until I got grey and balding from screwing so much. It is always wise to enjoy yourself, but always have that little bit of common sense talking to you it is only a business.
If you read some of the reports you will see that most of reports from the veteran TJ posters will some how always put in, to use common sense.
Do not get me wrong, when I first started I fell bad, and payed dearly, but as time goes by you learn, I have been drunk, rowdy, obnoxious, you name it I have probably done it. But these days I am low keyed, and love having a great time in a peaceful manner where my big head, outthinks the little head.
Have a great time, business is business.
Happy hunting
So did this ever happen to you?
[url]http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=765047&postcount=8[/url]
thread #8 :eek:
[QUOTE=Efjayel]So did this ever happen to you?
[url]http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=765047&postcount=8[/url]
thread #8 :eek:[/QUOTE]Are you asking if anybody here get thrown out of Hong Kong for wacking it?
Or if some random Mexican jammed his finger knuckle deep into you?
Naw none of that happened to me, because I usually had some senorita in the bar taking care of business BJ or Hj.
When some jerk would bring in the policia they had thier own warning system set in the barkers would a give signal and all the girls without cards would split, ask you to be thier boyfriend and tell the police that, or the girls taking care of business would stop what they were doing.
Happy hunting
Two Dollars, Efjayel, naw nothing like that ever happened to me, I posted an answer before I might be repeating.
Naw never had that happened to me, usually I had some little senorita taking care of me while I was watching the show with either BJ or HJ. Life is goood.
The bars had their silent alarm system, the barkers out front would give a signal and the girls without their med cards would take off, and the show would tame down and the HJ or BJ would stop. Also the girls without thier cards would come to where you were sitting and ask to be thier boyfriend while health or regular policia were in the bar.
One time on Rev. they had a bar where you walked in and a light would immediately shine on you, nearly blinding but enough to see the girls which you would pick one out and you would go to the booths and it would be pitch black, a mesero would come by with a flashlight bring you a drink, and sell you a party hat and tissues. Pretty kinky. Getting done and hear music and other strange noises. HE HE HE.
Happy hunting
Had a lovely time twice with her. Very friendly, usually wears some kind of costume (pirate, bunny, Pokahantis). Pretty good ingles. Black, kinda kinky hair, couple tatts, lousy boob job, and a bit big, but muscular, in the boot.
After watching her dance, I approached and asked if she wants to go arriba. She starts up the stairs to the booths and I tell her, no, arriba a hotel. She says it will be $60 + 12 for the room. got a kick outta that, made me feel like a first-timer.
Up to the room, she's joking around with the hotel workers, but in a nice way for me. I strip, she strips, starts rubbing her bare ass on my growing dick. Thought I'd get straight in, but we head for the bed for some BB head (didn't even have to ask for BB, so I'm in love already). We switch to 69 for a while, then she lifts up over my head so I can stare up at her pussy while she's bobbing on bob. Nice.
RCG for the main event. Tried to get her to go BB on that for more dinero, but no go. Hat goes on, I go in. Nice fit. Really nice fit, and I'm regular Joe size. We go at it for a while, but then I tell her esta condom es no buena para mi, tu boca otra ves? Off it goes and she works her magic. She could tell I was getting close, but there was no backing off. I blow a BIG load (been saving up) and she was all over that. Love that, and I've found that kind of ending hard to come by, if you'll pardon the pun.
We clean up, I give her $80 cuz I like to encourage that kind of behavior.
Hit it the same way the following noche, with an even better finish on her lingua just like they do it in the movies.
Hope I can pay a return visit again soon.
Happy cunting.
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Can one of you guys break down Hong Kong for me? Ive been there acouple of times and dont really know the drill as I always start at Adelitas. So all those chicks fuck? I thought they were there just to strip/get felt on. Tell me the rates please, I know its 22 dollars for the little booth. Theres an old chick in there I really wanna fuck, shes always wearing a one piece string bikini.
Thanks
I did a couple chicks from hk price like 40 bucks to 50. This was like 5 months 4 months ago.
Not all the girls at HK will go upstairs. Best way to find out is to ask. I've mentioned this before, but I think the booth is a rip-off. It's 20 bucks for like 2 songs. What if the songs are short? Even more of a rip off. Plus you're limited to what you can do in the booth.
For some reason the HK girls feel they are above the rest of the bars and will quote over $60 bucks. I had one quote me $100 bucks. I told her she was crazy and that I wasn't going to pay that. She replied that its the normal going rate. I guess she thought I was a gullible inexperienced monger. She wasn't even good looking and refused to lower her rates. I told her to take a hike. One other girl told me the same thing but she accepted lowering her rate to $60.
The rate is $60. If they want more tell them no and that they're crazy to charge that much because you can always go to AB where the girls are hotter and at a cheaper rate.
I agree with everything you said Efjayel. When I'm in there it does feel like they think there better then all the other bars. Shame there is some really hot ones in there though.
Thanks for the info!
HK was wild sunday! That place fucking rules! Fucked two hotties there. Jane and Sussana. Damage $50+12 and $60+12. DATY, BBBJ and good hard sex. The girls with the White Sash are not available for sex yet! I did manage to suck some of the breasts though.
P.S. Stop overpaying for these girls. You are fucking up the program.
Been going to TJ for years and I didn't see this one coming.
Been seeing the same girl for 6 months, used to see her a few years ago too.
Anyways things got cozy, she has a green card, she has been to my house here for the weekend. Almost introduced her to my sisters.
So she flies home to Reynosa as mom is sick. Than she gets car from cousin and is going to drive back with her girlfriend Leslie from Matamoros to the east.
She was supposed to be back on a Friday and got hung up in Nogales, said they got beat up etc. Even sent pictures of her black eyes and puffed up face.
Last text message I got was 2 weeks ago telling me they were an hour outside of Mexicalli and would be in TJ by 7 o 8 that night. No show...
Let's just say she fleeced me pretty good.
Goes by the name Janet in the bar. Real name on green card is Rocio Elizzeth Garcia Mendez.
Her friends in picture are Edith and Leslie (bi sexual and oooohh so much fun) done doubles with Leslie and Janet. Just another hard reminder that it is a business. And they got this sucker good.
Gordog62,
I'm sorry you got fleeced and clearly you want to warn us against Janet but you left out some important details that would give us better context.
By fleeced I assume that you mean you sent her money. You describe a particular incident (the trip to Reynosa) but don't make the connection of when and why there was a request for the money. Please fill us in.
Yes, what exactly did she "fleece" you of?
My definition is over seven or eight weeks sending $2000 western union :-( Not to mention my old worthless laptop, some clothes, hotels, food, drinks, movies etc.
I was to embarrassed to say it. I've known her for several years and it sucked not knowing wtf happened as I'm expecting her in TJ that night.
She originally went back to Reynosa for her Mom. She had gone back in May when she first got sick and than came back in June. We saw a lot of each other. So when she had to go back in a hurry it made sense. I mean Sunday she is here with me watching football on the couch and than like a Tues or Wed she is flying home on emergency. The only thing I did was I paid for her extra cost of luggage as she was over weight limit.
She has a laptop and we get on MSN Messanger quite a bit. So the story goes is she gets the car from cousin (she lived in Huston for a year) and is driving back and needs money for plates and registration. Than I sent a little gas money.
So they head out and we are hoping she gets here Saturday morning so she can come up and see the Blue Angles as I live really close to Miramar and she wants to see it and relax for a few days. So they are leaving late afternoon Thursday and I don't here from them until the next afternoon and Leslie had trouble with the map and they ended up a miles in the wrong direction. But they still think they can get here on Saturday. So the story I got after not hearing from her for 3 days was an instant message from her sister Melissa saying she ran into trouble in Nogales and that the three of them got the shit kicked out of them late at night after getting gas. She gets online a few days latter( all the while her sister is sending me emails letting me know what is going on) She gets online with me on Tuesday and her picture looks like she was in a car wreck! She has black eyes, a neck brace, swollen face.
I'm tapped and I told her so and I couldn't send more money and she said that was OK. Her Dad is going to step up and help. So a few days go by and they can't pay all the hospital bills and need just $300 more... and they can be on their way. This sucker sends it against my good will and jugement.
Next thing I get is a few text messages and than they are on their way and will be in TJ on a Wednesday night after the last message they were just an hour outside of Mexicall and never showed in TJ.
So it is either they are in a ditch between Mexicalli and TJ or... I got Conned big time. or my definition.. I got F ing Fleeced for $2000.
Never again fall for the Sick Mom, or Dead Grandma... or.. I my car broke down. I would have known better if I had not seen her ID, or had her here in the U.S. several times. Spent the weekend here etc. So it's not like I didn't think I knew her.
But obviously I was just a "mark" and a fool. God I feel dumb!
So I fucked her a whole bunch of times and she even let me fuck her friend Leslie in a fun three-way in Rosarito Beach one night after watching the fights are a sporst bar and dancing at Sr Frogs all night.
So I guess instead of paying her $100 hr each time... it cost me $2000 plus gas, clothes, gifts... usual girl friend shit. :-(
A little more expensive then just buying it, wiping off, and going home.
But you do get the total GFE thing! LOL!
It's not often you get to see your girlfriend be given an awesome orgasam from her girlfriend with you pounding her girlfriend doggie.
So don't feel too sorry for me. I did for a week or so. But I'm fucking a new in in HK already. I pick her up at 8 and take her to Premier and get a jacuzzi and we have a great time. But she atleast has told me she is married and has a husband and kid in ciudad de Mexico.
"If it fly's, Floats, or Fucks! RENT IT!"
Cheers
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At least it's something to learn from, and by sharing it with us then we learn too, laugh a little but learn too. j/k
Just curious, so when was the last time you tried contacting her, her sister or that friend?
[QUOTE=Gordog62]My definition is over seven or eight weeks sending $2000 western union :-( Not to mention my old worthless laptop, some clothes, hotels, food, drinks, movies etc.
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Hey, if she conned you, why don't you post nude pictures of her here ?
REgards. BB.
[QUOTE=Starphucker]HK was wild sunday! That place fucking rules! Fucked two hotties there. Jane and Sussana. Damage $50+12 and $60+12. DATY, BBBJ and good hard sex. The girls with the White Sash are not available for sex yet! I did manage to suck some of the breasts though.
P.S. Stop overpaying for these girls. You are fucking up the program.[/QUOTE]Dude? Are you kidding me? Ask the maseros. Not all are, but plenty are! I know for a fact. Plus I know of one who is know working as an escort. So just cause they are dressed different doesn't mean they will not go into the VIP or got upstairs. ASK a cool waiter. Miguel in they days speaks good english and he knows which girls. I always forget the two guys who take care of me in the night. Be cool and use the same masero as often as you can. Tip them and they will take care of you! It's worked for me for years.
[QUOTE=Bimbo Boy]Hey, if she conned you, why don't you post nude pictures of her here?
REgards. BB.[/QUOTE]Don't have any! Not into taking picuters that much. Best I have is these bikini pics she sent to me. I used to take a bunch and it got old. I have some of my favorites but none nude. They don't like you taking pictures in HK. I lost a hard drive and my Chica Pics were not backed up. Janet and I talked about doing a movie But alas that is not going to happen anytime soon either.
I'll bring the camera one of these times to share with you perverts.
Gordog62
Good report, don't feel to badly this stuff happens to everyone at one time who tries to do right by a chica unforunately you have to learn the hard way that these girls have a ton of baggage and so do a lot of the mongers that try to play the game.
The worst part is that many so called "vets" of the Zona never learn, they just move on to the next chica and get taken all over again. You have to learn to say no. Mexico is filled with sick grandmothers and relatives that need an operation.
You wouldn't believe the number of times I've been stood up on dates because some chica's kid got "food poisioning". It's like they all went to school and learned all the same excuses.
I just laugh about it and head to the Zona. I screw their friends and thier friends friends. I call it "redistributing the wealth." Sounds like you got a handle on it.
The real girlfriend won't ask you for money. That's the litmus test. Some times they don't ask because the stupid monger offers it up trying to ingratiate himself to the chica. This doesn't work in Mexico, they''ll take the money but respect you less. Good luck next time.
Have any of you guys gone to visit any of these chick in other parts of Mexico. This chick that I have been banging at the HK is moving back home and told me to come and visit her.
I f#$%¡ng love Mexico City and could score a $250 LA - DF flight with a $9 a day car rental to get to Puebla.
I have spent a lot of time in Mexico and speak Spanish fluently. I actually drove to Mainland Mex, DF and Puebla earlier this year. I'm telling my friends that I'm going to DF to look at grad school. jajaja, but I legitimately will visit UNAM, even though the trip is just to bang this chick again.
Does this sound like a "I'm about to get taken" situation
I also told her I'd get her a laptop ($350 at frys) and give her a ride to the airport in TJ.
[QUOTE=Pablito Diablito]Have any of you guys gone to visit any of these chick in other parts of Mexico. This chick that I have been banging at the HK is moving back home and told me to come and visit her.
I f#$%¡ng love Mexico City and could score a $250 LA - DF flight with a $9 a day car rental to get to Puebla.
I have spent a lot of time in Mexico and speak Spanish fluently. I actually drove to Mainland Mex, DF and Puebla earlier this year. I'm telling my friends that I'm going to DF to look at grad school. jajaja, but I legitimately will visit UNAM, even though the trip is just to bang this chick again.
Does this sound like a "I'm about to get taken" situation
I also told her I'd get her a laptop ($350 at frys) and give her a ride to the airport in TJ.[/QUOTE]Yes, It does sound like youre about to get taken. Big time. do yourself a favor and RTFF! There are many a story how some LPM got taken for everything they own cause of some delusion that the chicka is "the one" or whatever.
At least you're single though.
CC
It does sound like you could get taken. Why is she moving back home? Vacation or pemanently?
Get taken for what? You are already getting taken for a laptop.
Sounds like she probably just wants her laptop and whatever else she can get out of you.
Not for vacation, but these girls can come back any time they want and live in the hotel upstairs. They make more money than people with an education do, so the option is always there.
The laptop has to be earned, not given yet, and plus, that shit costs $275 at best buy right now. She thinks they cost $500 and offered to pay something towards it. If I get longer than the 1/2 hour time limit it will be worth it. I have never blown two loads consecutively before banging this chick. She got me hard again in five minutes and I was back at it until that pinche knock on the door told her to get back to work.
I'm not worried about the laptop. I'll be compensated for that. It's going to Puebla and not coming back that worries me. Fucking Cartel is everywhere.
[QUOTE=Pablito Diablito]The laptop has to be earned, not given yet, and plus, that shit costs $275 at best buy right now. She thinks they cost $500 and offered to pay something towards it. If I get longer than the 1/2 hour time limit it will be worth it. I have never blown two loads consecutively before banging this chick. She got me hard again in five minutes and I was back at it until that pinche knock on the door told her to get back to work.
I'm not worried about the laptop. I'll be compensated for that. It's going to Puebla and not coming back that worries me. Fucking Cartel is everywhere. [/QUOTE]"It's going to Puebla and not coming back that worries me"
Ummmm ahhhh please read my thread below on how not to give them anything and do not send them money.
If she is leaving fro good. Find new one. The bus stops their every day and their is always a new girl. And trust me when she comes back and you see her again. She will remember and it will be as good as ever.
I know what you mean about a girl who can get your rocks off twice in an hour. (see Jocelyn at mexicolindobar.com) and I think I attached a picture of her before. I met her at HK and the girl got me off 2 x's an hour evertime. That just doesn't happen:.(
Chasing her down in Mexico and giving her a laptop? Think it through. What will happen 6 mos or a year from now? Is it worth it? Next she will be asking your to go online and buy her plane ticket to get back.
My advice. Go shopping for a new one the day she leaves. I fell in love just after a session. This goddess walked up to the street taco stand while I was getting a taco. Even the Chico's eyes got huge when she walked up. She is new and ooooohhhh she is hot.
They are a dime a dozen and their will be a new crop come spring and agaion in June for the summer. Pickings get slim from about Thanksgiving through the first few weeks of January as they make the trek home for the holidays.
GorDog
[QUOTE=Pablito Diablito]The laptop has to be earned, not given yet, and plus, that shit costs $275 at best buy right now. She thinks they cost $500 and offered to pay something towards it. If I get longer than the 1/2 hour time limit it will be worth it. I have never blown two loads consecutively before banging this chick. She got me hard again in five minutes and I was back at it until that pinche knock on the door told her to get back to work.
I'm not worried about the laptop. I'll be compensated for that. It's going to Puebla and not coming back that worries me. Fucking Cartel is everywhere.[/QUOTE]Especially since I"LL be the ONLY one who knows why you're down there huh lmao!
CC
I read a lot about guys travelling deep South to see girls they met in the Zona. It's a statistal fact that over 95% of relationships with working girls do not work out. Why?
It's because they do not have relationship goals, they have money goals. If you have lots of money, you'll have the relationship and if you are int he market to purchase a relationship then the Zona Norte is the place for you.
The mistake many mongers make is connecting their wallet to their heart. It's better to give than to receive, but it's worse to be conned.
These girls have LOTS of practice and excellent coaching when it comes to extracting money out of mongers. They know the game. For them it's a practice. They look good doing it, and sex always sells.
You must know that when the phone rings, and the girl is your sweetie from the Zona asking for money to pay for daddys brain operation, chances are better than 95% it's a lie. If you pay her once, the'll add you to ler list of suckers. Yes, they have a list. Yes, you are on it. When they are done with you, they call the next sucker, and so on.
Don't think for a minute that you are the only one. You are not the only one. I don't care how sweet she is.
When nice campesana girleis, or girleis from poor families etc. get sucked into prostitution by false promises or desperation, they usually learn more than how to perform in bed. THey learn the ropes of suckerdom, and just how powerful and desireable that thing she is sitting on is to some guys. They experience guys whanting service for nothing, they experience all the bad things guys want to do to them and there comes a time when they want something more in return than what you are prepared to leave on the night stand.
They have a future to be concerned about and maybe a few kids to boot. Perhaps she wants to support her entire family. Perhaps she is their only chance to live a decent life so she'd better develop her skills in the sack and on the phone.
When she call you for monay the first time, she has no idea which way you will go and she's prepared to hear NO so say "No." Or say that you can't afford to send money, or you can only "help" her when she is with you etc.
Never go to MC unless it is a committed relationship and after you've been living with her for a while. If she leaves the club and becomes your girlfriend, spouse etc., then that's a different story but a LOT of water has to go under the bridge before that happens. Believe me.
It's easy to care for these girls. They are pretty and for many of us they are a fantasy come true. Leave it at that. That's why you're here.
After the fantasy wears off and reality emerges, you'll find that they are very similar to Gringas. Their natural tendancy to go after money should be managed, not held against them because all women do it.
Kepp you fantasy a fantasy. Be square with the girl of course buy remember that she is here on the same terms you are. She has to work for the money. Don't be sucked into the trap, it will never end. If you find a girl that you want to take in, then take her in and be responsible for her. Don;t be sending your hard earned money down a telephone line for nothing.
There is no shortage of willing girlies to provide your fantasy. They keep getting younger as you keep getting older. Don't sweat it.
Country John
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You get what you pay for.
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[QUOTE=Country John] It's a statistal fact that over 95% of relationships with working girls do not work out. Why?[/QUOTE]I guess it just depends on what your definition of "relationship" is. I am not proposing a monogamous, loving, father of her children type of shit. I don't spend enough time in anyone place to commit to that paradigm.
I have been all through Latin America and my little black book continues to grow. I would much rather have some contacts in a city I'm visiting than cruise around solo. Solo being fine, but I like the company of hot girls because it indulges my ego.
When I show up in the cities that I have already been to I am treated much better than the first time I was there because I learn from experience and tip well.
But, I will take everyone's advice on the sending money thing. I mean, these are working girls, nothing in this world is free, and they have to earn their keep.
What a beautifully written piece of advice. Honestly, if you don't hear CJ's advice, then you are truly an idiot. Thanks again for all of your posts. And thanks Jackson for providing this forum.
[QUOTE=Pablito Diablito]I guess it just depends on what your definition of "relationship" is. I am not proposing a monogamous, loving, father of her children type of shit. I don't spend enough time in anyone place to commit to that paradigm. [/quote]
Then we are talking not about the "I lub ju" type of thing where you found your "one and only." We're talking about a strictly client-provider business relationship. You wouldn't wire $200.00 to your pharmacist or dentist either. So understanding the relationship foundation is important indeed.
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I have been all through Latin America and my little black book continues to grow. I would much rather have some contacts in a city I'm visiting than cruise around solo. Solo being fine, but I like the company of hot girls because it indulges my ego.[/quote]
Sounds normal to me!
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When I show up in the cities that I have already been to I am treated much better than the first time I was there because I learn from experience and tip well.
But, I will take everyone's advice on the sending money thing. I mean, these are working girls, nothing in this world is free, and they have to earn their keep.[/QUOTE]
Recognize then it's the money making the bang, not your mouthwash. No money means no amount of mouthwash will have those hot girls waiting at the airport to service your ego.
Try this: Call up one of the sweeties and tell her you want to see her but you have no money this time. See what color she turns. Then come back and let us know what happens. She might say "Sure baby, no problem with the money. I'll be right over." or she might say that she will be busy taking care of her sick father after his brain operation.
[QUOTE=Country John] You wouldn't wire $200.00 to your pharmacist or dentist either. So understanding the relationship foundation is important indeed.
[/QUOTE]Uhh? I don't know how you get your pharmaceuticals, but I have to pay for mine so I don't understand the analogy.
[QUOTE]Recognize then it's the money making the bang, not your mouthwash. No money means no amount of mouthwash will have those hot girls waiting at the airport to service your ego.[/QUOTE]But this does not just apply to vichys. Stuck in my demographic in Southern California (or NorCal for that matter) girls, for all their talk of equal rights and equal pay, want to be taken care of financially. No money means no love, period. My dad is a pretty cool cat, and from him and his friends, I learned at a very early age, that money will get you the very best of the opposite sex. This goes for pros and civilians alike.
I just like the fact that I don't have to worry about these girls showing up at my house or work, pissed off that I have not called them back. I think it was Charley Sheen that after getting busted for soliciting in hooker in LA, said that what we are paying to avoid a serious relationship.
[QUOTE=FadeToJade]What a beautifully written piece of advice. Honestly, if you don't hear CJ's advice, then you are truly an idiot. Thanks again for all of your posts. And thanks Jackson for providing this forum.[/QUOTE]Dude, who's CJ? Are you calling one of your bros out by name on this thread?
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You get what you pay for.
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Could be even worse that this guy is a pocho and just doesn't speak Spanish that well.
Anyway, I will add a full translation next time. I think that it is important to speak multiple languages especially if you are going to Mexico. People just treat you better. I have learned a ton of Spanish in strip clubs and bars because it is just more fun. When I was living in Costa Rica one of my friends was paying a SP to be his conversational Spanish tutor. Dude learned so much because he was excited to practice.
[QUOTE=Pablito Diablito]Dude, who's CJ? Are you calling one of your bros out by name on this thread?[/QUOTE]CJ=Country John
CC
Thanks CC for clarifying this. I could also have used Country or John , or even Juan del campo, si quieres. Nonetheless the man's advice is priceless. Of course I would never out a fellow monger by name, too many misinformed dogooders out there.
Uh sorry, forgot about the policy not to use language other than english. Juan del campo merely means country john. Jackson, please delete these posts if you want because they really add no useful info.
I wrote a little about this chick a few months back. Have only been down a few times since then, and would just get this little school girl street chick. With the whitest teeth I ever cum across!
Anyway, my girlfriends job takes her out of SD, so last week finally able to make a few trips down south. So decide to go to HK, after getting a room over at Cascade. And I see the Deanna chick. She's called me a few times over the month, but I would throw her some b. S about work, so I couldn't cruise down. She sees me, comes and sits with me, asking for 1 drink. No problem. So I tell her come to my room at Cascade after work. She tries playin me with some b. S. But I just say "if you can't that's cool. I'm gonna go hang at AB's". So she agrees. Now I say in the bar "if you come after work, your coming because you want to, not because your working, right? ". She says right there "yes, of course".
It was like 12am, so I knew she would be off at 2am. She was busy with customers and I didn't have cash to buy drinks, so we part ways. I hit up AB's and check the street girls for awhile and go back to the room at 1:45.
She shows up around 2:30am. We b. S. For awhile as she's counting her tip money.
Then we get to business. I got to say this chick has the hottest little body, and a tight shaven little puss. I brought the laptop, so she wanted to get online to check email. We do that, then fuck again. She's there an hour and half. Everything seems cool, she hasn't said shit about wanting any cash. So at 4am, she says she's got to go, telling me she had to go back to work! I'm like what the fuck, I thought you were off. Then out of fuckin nowhere, she asks me for $40. In this case, I truly didn't have any cash and I didn't bring any cards. So she gets all pissed. But I told her, "sorry, I don't have any cash, hey if you don't like me anymore, sorry, I'll never go to HK again or see you". Anyway after like 20 min, she calmed down and left. So she's still pullin the same shit.
Stayed all day Sunday, but didn't hit HK again, just in case she was there and wanted to start some shit or call the bouncers on me.
I wrote a little about this chick a few months back. Have only been down a few times since then, and would just get this little school girl street chick. With the whitest teeth I ever cum across!
Anyway, my girlfriends job takes her out of SD, so last week finally able to make a few trips down south. So decide to go to HK, after getting a room over at Cascade. And I see the Deanna chick. She's called me a few times over the month, but I would throw her some b. S about work, so I couldn't cruise down. She sees me, comes and sits with me, asking for 1 drink. No problem. So I tell her come to my room at Cascade after work. She tries playin me with some b. S. But I just say "if you can't that's cool. I'm gonna go hang at AB's". So she agrees. Now I say in the bar "if you come after work, your coming because you want to, not because your working, right? ". She says right there "yes, of course".
It was like 12am, so I knew she would be off at 2am. She was busy with customers and I didn't have cash to buy drinks, so we part ways. I hit up AB's and check the street girls for awhile and go back to the room at 1:45. She shows up around 2:30am. We b. S. For awhile as she's counting her tip money.
Then we get to business. I got to say this chick has the hottest little body, and a tight shaven little puss. I brought the laptop, so she wanted to get online to check email. We do that, then fuck again. She's there an hour and half. Everything seems cool, she hasn't said shit about wanting any cash. So at 4am, she says she's got to go, telling me she had to go back to work! I'm like what the fuck, I thought you were off. Then out of fuckin nowhere, she asks me for $40. In this case, I truly didn't have any cash and I didn't bring any cards. So she gets all pissed. But I told her, "sorry, I don't have any cash, hey if you don't like me anymore, sorry, I'll never go to HK again or see you". Anyway after like 20 min, she calmed down and left. So she's still pullin the same shit.
Stayed all day Sunday, but didn't hit HK again, just in case she was there and wanted to start some shit or call the bouncers on me.
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[QUOTE=Country John]You wouldn't wire $200.00 to your pharmacist or dentist either. So understanding the relationship foundation is important indeed.
[QUOTE=Pablito Diablito]Uhh? I don't know how you get your pharmaceuticals, but I have to pay for mine so I don't understand the analogy.[/QUOTE]
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He meant it in the same way. You do business with your pharmacist and dentist. Like it or not, the hooker is also someone you are doing business with.
Since you are sending money to the hooker cause she needs a laptop, would you also send money to your Pharmacist or dentist if they called you telling you they need money for a laptop?
Anyone have apartment or hotel info next to all the action?
Thanks
[QUOTE=Efjayel]He meant it in the same way. You do business with your pharmacist and dentist. Like it or not, the hooker is also someone you are doing business with.
Since you are sending money to the hooker cause she needs a laptop, would you also send money to your Pharmacist or dentist if they called you telling you they need money for a laptop?[/QUOTE]
I've spent time in el campo with my girlie just outside La Mira. Living at it's most basic where no part of the animal is wasted. She's Maya and her whole family lives in a small camp - the real deal. What a life.
Yes, Efjayel, you are exactly right. Perhaps I could have been a bit clearer.
Imagine getting a call from your pharmacist reminding you of the great deal he gave you on your prescription medication last month and now he needs you to send him $200 because his mom needs a brain operation.
The point is that your relationship with the guy is strictly a "client/provider" relationship and you probably would not spring for the $200. Same with the girls.
I understand that if it has tits or wheels it's gonna cost you, and every woman has a money goal, but sometimes the goal is not entirely money. MOney will always be a component in their survival model, but some girls are looking for more. They are looking for personal security and a safe place to be with someone who loves them and will take care of them. They don't want to worry anymore, and they don't want to be frightened about having a terrible old age.
My girlie cringes when she sees the old ladies selling chicklets and trinkets on the streets. They are sometimes out there after midnight, and have the same thing to look forward to tomorrow.
A girl who wants you to "take care" of her doesn't want $200 for a laptop. But negotiating and planning for mongering adventures takes many forms and strategies. This would be one.
Be safe and be nice
Juan del Campo.
I am going to take this discussion to the general TJ thread unless anyone can direct me to a better thread. It does not necessarily pertain to just the HK.
[QUOTE=Pablito Diablito]Sorry guys, that should have been sent as a PM to El Tijuanense, but I don't think that guys speaks Spanish either. Wannabe Tijuanero has been called güero to many times and thinks buey is spelled with a "g".
Could be even worse that this guy is a pocho and just doesn't speak Spanish that well.[/QUOTE]Why would they call me 'guero' and guey is spelled by many Mexicans. I speak fluent Spanish my accent is neutral not an accent from Mexico,but i am Chicano,and know every slag Spanish Mexicano. Entiendes mendez?
I have been to hong kong many times. I just wanted to list the pros and cons about this place.
Pros:
-Get to fondle the girls for a dollar
- the waiters don't harrass the patrons as much as the waiters in other venues.
- the places is really nice and very spacious
Cons:
- the cuties with band arount their chest are not available for sex.
- cute girls their tend to dissapear, it is very hard to settle on a girl to fuck.
[QUOTE=TonySoprano]
Pros:
- the waiters don't harrass the patrons as much as the waiters in other venues.
[/QUOTE]
Here is a post from yesterday (not mine) taken from another site:
Unless HK slows down the habitual bothersome outside vendors and keeps the maseros away from my table unless I call them over, I am finished with that place. I could not say 5 words to a chica the other night without having to fend off those ridiculous insects. Finally I told her sorry but I had to go...
[QUOTE=El Tijuanense]Why would they call me 'guero' and guey is spelled by many Mexicans. I speak fluent Spanish my accent is neutral not an accent from Mexico,but i am Chicano,and know every slag Spanish Mexicano. Entiendes mendez?[/QUOTE]
If you speak Spanish you should already know the answer? If they call you and it sounds like Wet-doo then it has to do with your skin color or white complexion. Now if you're a dark skinned Mexican then I had no idea why they would call you that?
[QUOTE=FadeToJade]What a beautifully written piece of advice. Honestly, if you don't hear CJ's advice, then you are truly an idiot. Thanks again for all of your posts. And thanks Jackson for providing this forum.[/QUOTE]
So if you don't listen to CJ's advice then you are an idiot? That's a good one. I know some people that would say the opposite.
[QUOTE=JPF]Here is a post from yesterday (not mine) taken from another site:
Unless HK slows down the habitual bothersome outside vendors and keeps the maseros away from my table unless I call them over, I am finished with that place. I could not say 5 words to a chica the other night without having to fend off those ridiculous insects. Finally I told her sorry but I had to go...[/QUOTE]
What site is that?
I was once kicked out of HK for not wanting to buy a drink. I had just walked in, it was crowded and I was standing around with a bunch of other guys looking at the pole dancers. A short chunky mesero gets in front of me and asks what I want. I waved my hand in front of him indicating I didn't want anything. He said I need buy something or leave. I rolled my eyes and took a last good look at the stripers dancing. Then made direct eye contact with the guy and said, "Then I guess I'll leave." He walked me out. Lol it was funny.
[QUOTE=Pokey]If you speak Spanish you should already know the answer? If they call you and it sounds like Wet-doo then it has to do with your skin color or white complexion. Now if you're a dark skinned Mexican then I had no idea why they would call you that?[/QUOTE]Pokey,
Are you chino? Obviously you aren't part of the Mexican culture. Their are light skin Mexicans lite brown hair called gueros, they are light skin Mexicans that are brunetes described as Moreno claros (which is me) but they never say bien aca 'moreno claro.
[QUOTE=TonySoprano]I have been to hong kong many times. I just wanted to list the pros and cons about this place.
Pros:
-Get to fondle the girls for a dollar
- the waiters don't harrass the patrons as much as the waiters in other venues.
- the places is really nice and very spacious
Cons:
- the cuties with band arount their chest are not available for sex.
- cute girls their tend to dissapear, it is very hard to settle on a girl to fuck.[/QUOTE]Some of The Cuties with the bands are available. Ask Miguel or one of the other waiters that speaks english. We were bs'n the other day and he was telling me which ones fuck and the ones that will go to VIP etc. So just ask somebody who knows! They got a bunch of younger new guys working too. Try and find a Masero who has worked for a long time.
The waiters can get bothersome at times. But from what I here from the girls and from Miguel is that it's tough down their. They are really feeling the economy. One of the managers and I were talking 6 months ago about it. I asked him how much business was down and he said over 50%.
There is a line between getting good service and them just harrassing you. Sometimes they get a little aggressive. They are tyring to make a buck. I hate the $5 for pictures and $3 for a bag of chips they try and sell. They do this to make a buck! They get a large commission. The have to husstle to survive. So take it in stride and just be firm and say "Gracias, pero no! "
To the guy who left because he didn't order a drink? I'm an Alcholic and have never bought a drink for myself EVER. Been going their for years and years too. I'll buy myself a water or a coke sometimes. But usually nothing for myself. IF I get their after 8 on a Friday or Saturday you pay $3. 50 to get in the door but you get a beer. I just trade it in for a coke. Never been questioned about it. Never ever have I been told to buy a drink or leave. Must be somebody new. If you told Carlos (night manager) that they guy would get a few days off work!
I'll try and get a photo of some of my favorite maseros whom I trust and you should be able too also. Next time I'm down. I will bring camera.
Like I have said many many times. My friends are 50/50. Some hate HK and some hate AB. I just prefer HK. Had a lot more fun and met some really nice girls.
FYI. Perris just got some new tits and they look great.
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Is Perris A Tall Blonde? If It Is Here, She Is Damn Hot, But She Tends To Dissappear, What Do Yo Suggest In Order To Secure Her Services?
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[QUOTE=El Tijuanense]But they never say bien aca 'moreno claro.[/QUOTE]It's, "Ay Güero"
Bien aca? ven aca = come here, from the root verb, venir to come, venga aca, ven aca. No se escribe asi = is not written like that
Venir
yo vengo I come
tú vienes you come
él viene he comes
nosotros venimos we come
ellos vienen they come
Oh, you were trying to say, todo esta bien aca... all is well here
[QUOTE=Efjayel]What site is that?
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[QUOTE=TonySoprano]Is Perris A Tall Blonde? If It Is Here, She Is Damn Hot, But She Tends To Dissappear, What Do Yo Suggest In Order To Secure Her Services?[/quote]Yes, she is blonde and sort of taller. She does come and go a lot. But many fo them do. She'll work for a few months and than return. I haven't seen her in quite a while and she showed up recently. Perris is easy to talk too. Just buy her a drink and say Hello, or Arriba! She doesn't take much coaxing to get her to go upstairs. At least she never did with me I have not taken her upstairs in 3 years or more, but she still says Hello, when I see her.
You got about a 1 in 10 chance we are talking about the same girl anyway. LOL! As their are a few blondes in their. But she will wear pants that say Perris sometimes as well.
Good luck!
[QUOTE=HornyTraveler]Greyhound can take you to San Ysidro, probably cleaner and safer than Santa Ana Taco Express![/QUOTE]Another option that runs pretty quickly is the train/coaster/surfliner to the trolly at San Diego's Santa Fe Depot downtown. The trolley is really slow, but the train is the best way to get from LA to SD. Especially on a Friday afternoon.
[QUOTE=Pablito Diablito]Another option that runs pretty quickly is the train/coaster/surfliner to the trolly at San Diego's Santa Fe Depot downtown. The trolley is really slow, but the train is the best way to get from LA to SD. Especially on a Friday afternoon.[/QUOTE]Agreed. The trolly trip from old town is appx one hour. But well worth it.
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tijuana was awesome last night. i went to hk last night and it was pretty busy. my usual girl wasn't there so i had miguel (#6) go hunting for me. we were talking about the comments here on the board about these chicas not being availbale to ariba. well he comes back with janet. tall, 5-7, with hair to her butt and a nice b/c tits. she gets one drink and starts rubbing my johnson. this girl is a complete ****! she made me wear a condom for an awesome cbj. her lips went past the end of the condom! she took it all and let me just shove it to the back of her throat! she was all over it.
miguel and i went for a beer at tropical across the street and we talked more about the sash girls. he said the secret is out. many of them have come up to him and tell him; "i need money! get me a date! " he said sometimes he send the guys upstairs and than the girl goes up a few minutes latter so that nobody sees her leave! so ymmv. i got lucky and mine was just a horny **** and wanted to fuck.
by the way the waiters their have numbers on their badge and i can reccomend miguel #6 in the days and #77 in the evening. they both speak english also!
miguel than introduced me to emile at tropical. she used to work at hk. i can not remember the last time in over 5 years that i've gone for the double dip. but this girl was hot! she had an ass that was to die for, and she was fun, biting my dick in the bar through my jeans, giving me a very playfull lap dance in the bar, really working me sitting their. so what the heck, i take her upstairs and she give is awesome also! best ass i've scene in a long time. she also gave a cbj with choking and deep deep throat. she liked it too. i was grabbing her head and just holding her until she couldn't breath! i'm not usually that agressive. but what the heck. finished doggie and was exahaused. she was fun, and very enthusiastic in bed. hairy muff too. the carpet didn't match the drapes as she is blonde on top and brunette down below
not a bad night. than watched three people go out in handcuffs in the line. border was unusually busy and even the sentri was 30+. never a dull moment in tijuana!
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I did that once, she charge me 70 dlls but only had 300 pesos, next day because she had my cell phone number she called me everyday, saying (so when are going to come back to HK miss you)
[quote]Try this: Call up one of the sweeties and tell her you want to see her but you have no money this time. See what color she turns. Then come back and let us know what happens. She might say "Sure baby, no problem with the money. I'll be right over. " or she might say that she will be busy taking care of her sick father after his brain operation. [/QUOTE]
For some reason I have trouble finding HK after leaving AB. I think they are on the same block, same side of street. Could someone please confirm which way to turn after leaving AB.- is HK left or right, and how far down the block? Will be over the border in January.
Thanks
[QUOTE=Gary144]For some reason I have trouble finding HK after leaving AB. I think they are on the same block, same side of street. Could someone please confirm which way to turn after leaving AB.- is HK left or right, and how far down the block? Will be over the border in January.
Thanks[/QUOTE]
Turn left; go past the restaurant, church, another bar, and look for the sign over the door, the doorman, sash girls, etc., etc. The entryway is somewhat set in from the rest of the storefronts.
[QUOTE=Gary144]For some reason I have trouble finding HK after leaving AB. I think they are on the same block, same side of street. Could someone please confirm which way to turn after leaving AB.- is HK left or right, and how far down the block? Will be over the border in January.
Thanks[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Efjayel]Perfect reason to once again shamelessly promote my map...
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Ahh, your right :D
[QUOTE=Gary144]For some reason I have trouble finding HK after leaving AB. I think they are on the same block, same side of street. Could someone please confirm which way to turn after leaving AB.- is HK left or right, and how far down the block? Will be over the border in January.
Thanks[/QUOTE]Look for the big dragon.
Was in HK last night.
Does anybody know a girl named "leslie" with the Lip piercing? If anybody has ever crossed paths with this girl let me hear about it. I will follow up with an experience. Thanks- KE
[QUOTE=Kid Esquiss]Was in HK last night.
Does anybody know a girl named "leslie" with the Lip piercing? If anybody has ever crossed paths with this girl let me hear about it. I will follow up with an experience. Thanks- KE[/QUOTE]She sounds familiar, was it a ring or just a stud on her lower lip? Short, 5'1 maybe 5'2 with out the stripper heals, dark strait hair with no highlights. Busty with a little belly. If this is the girl I am thinking of, she somewhat resembles Alejandra, but with a different skin tone.
I had a session with her in October and had a lot of fun. She uses way too much biting in her act, but once I told her to mellow it out she was great. Super fun, smiling, GFE (lots of blandishment).
I think I caught her on the end of the day shift, or maybe the swing. It was before I went to Lucha Libre, and I don't remember her being there after Lucha.
That was a super fun trip, stayed at Cesars, HK for session #1 (leslie), dinner at los Arcos, Lucha Libre, session #2 with Sandy who was wasted by that I got back from Lucha. She was my favorite, sloppy-drunk-sex at it's best. She got me off twice that night and kept saying, "Quiero que estes en mi" <<I want you in me.
I really need to do another overnighter. That was really fun. I think that next time I want to stay at las Cascadas rather than Cesar's as the walk sucks at 6am. The girls at Cesar's wanted like $150 to stay the night (what was left of it anyway), so I made my way to the good old HK.
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[QUOTE=Country John]The map is excellent and every member should download it.[/QUOTE]
Thanks! I need to update it though.
On a recent weekday afternoon Hong Kong was crazy! There was a girl in the tub who would climb out and use what looked like a cucumber on herself repeatedly. She would let guys do it to her also.
Other girls were doing the whipped cream (I think that's what it was) thing on the stage.
I took Marnai (not sure of spelling but that's how it sounds) and she acted like she truly enjoyed the time. She's orally gifted (and I don't mean her English)
She started out asking for $40 but talked herself down to $30 within 3 minutes.
A good value.
$30 just for a bj or was it 30 min of f/s?
[QUOTE=Efjayel]$30 just for a bj or was it 30 min of f/s?[/QUOTE]
$30 for b/j...f/s...and then more b/j
[QUOTE=ToroRojo]$30 for b/j...f/s...and then more b/j[/QUOTE]What day and what time did you go? And what did thr girl look like?
[QUOTE=Pablito Diablito]She sounds familiar, was it a ring or just a stud on her lower lip? Short, 5'1 maybe 5'2 with out the stripper heals, dark strait hair with no highlights. Busty with a little belly. If this is the girl I am thinking of, she somewhat resembles Alejandra, but with a different skin tone.
I had a session with her in October and had a lot of fun. She uses way too much biting in her act, but once I told her to mellow it out she was great. Super fun, smiling, GFE (lots of blandishment).
I think I caught her on the end of the day shift, or maybe the swing. It was before I went to Lucha Libre, and I don't remember her being there after Lucha.
That was a super fun trip, stayed at Cesars, HK for session #1 (leslie), dinner at los Arcos, Lucha Libre, session #2 with Sandy who was wasted by that I got back from Lucha. She was my favorite, sloppy-drunk-sex at it's best. She got me off twice that night and kept saying, "Quiero que estes en mi" <<I want you in me.
I really need to do another overnighter. That was really fun. I think that next time I want to stay at las Cascadas rather than Cesar's as the walk sucks at 6am. The girls at Cesar's wanted like $150 to stay the night (what was left of it anyway), so I made my way to the good old HK.[/QUOTE]No this Leslie was taller, really thin and in shape with the stud on her lip. Shes 21. I think shes new there, said only a few months. I've gone all over the place to different spots, massage parlors, strip clubs, etc etc and I know how they hustle and bs you. After our first session, she told me she never really goes upstairs (uh? ) and that she liked me. She actually said she liked me many times. We just sat together and she only had 2 or 3 beers for the rest of the night and she got off work at 8. She said she wanted to go back upstairs and I said I didn't have any more money and she said it's ok and it didn't matter. She got off work, changed and we went up there. This session was way different and it was just strange. There was alot more kissing than the fucking and there seemed to be emotion and she was very affectionate. Said something about me going back to her house and meeting her parents but we were laughing like hell about stuff. I don't speak any spanish either and she barely speaks english but we were having a good time. She made me call her right then and there but my phone was dead so I wrote it down. We got dressed and she took me into the little area in front of Hong Kong and we kissed a few times and hugged me and said she had to catch her taxi to go home. I am 27 yrs old and have no problem meeting girls. I don't want to come across as being conceited but it's different when some older aged men or wealthy clients talk about some working girls pretending to like them in order to take advantage of them, financially.
Since then shes been texting me telling me that she likes me, misses me, asking when I'm going back to Tijuana and some other stuff. We spoke on the phone a couple times and shes supposed to call me tonight. I know how girls hustle and I find myself a sucker but I don't want to get caught up in something like this cause theres no real way of really knowing what this girls intentions are. She gave me her myspace and she seems to have a normal life just like any other girl which is the part that kinda of sticks in my head. Anyways, I moved away from california yesterday and back on the east coast and she knows that but why even try to contact me if I'm just a john?
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I know that this is kind of last minute, but if you have a chance to go to Tijuana tonight, GO!
I did some shopping in Tijuana this afternoon and had to swing by to see what was going on. There were a ton of chicks and not that many patrons.
The sash girls (no sashes tonight, but the dancers that usually don't go upstairs) seemed to be a lot more aggressive. I think this is the last chance to make some fast cash (and be able to spend it) before the holiday. The second floor on the Chavelas side was lined up with the sash girls and no clients. I sat at the bar and watched these girls sum up each person that walked into the bar and talk to each other about them. I think that tonight is the night to turn some dancers into pros.
I went upstairs with Roxanne from Veracruz. Really sweet girl, who tells me everything that I want to hear (that she's going to school and doesn't do crystal). She puts a lot of effort into her act and is quite animated. I might just start checking out the day-time crew on a more regular basis.
I stopped in for 15 min to pick up my girl and take her to Premier and it was pretty busy.
They are open EVERY day so Christmas Eve and Day they will be their.
Border was crazy yesterday. Their was a line of people to get in to Mexico on the walking side! They all walked to the mall.
Can't tell you how many girls I talked to over the last few weeks who are NOT going home. They can not afford airline tickets this year. Their ecconmy is as bad or worse than ours.
The Sashe girls are almost all obtainable. And don; t for a minute think they are not pros! I wrote below that I have carnal knowledge of several!
Just ask. They may want to follow you up to the room a minute latter or something. But they will go!
[QUOTE=Pablito Diablito]I know that this is kind of last minute, but if you have a chance to go to Tijuana tonight, GO!
I did some shopping in Tijuana this afternoon and had to swing by to see what was going on. There were a ton of chicks and not that many patrons.
The sash girls (no sashes tonight, but the dancers that usually don't go upstairs) seemed to be a lot more aggressive. I think this is the last chance to make some fast cash (and be able to spend it) before the holiday. The second floor on the Chavelas side was lined up with the sash girls and no clients. I sat at the bar and watched these girls sum up each person that walked into the bar and talk to each other about them. I think that tonight is the night to turn some dancers into pros.
I went upstairs with Roxanne from Veracruz. Really sweet girl, who tells me everything that I want to hear (that she's going to school and doesn't do crystal). She puts a lot of effort into her act and is quite animated. I might just start checking out the day-time crew on a more regular basis.[/QUOTE]
You went "shopping."
Did you get me that Hong Kong gift card I've been asking Santa for?
CC
[QUOTE=Cobra Comander]You went "shopping."
Did you get me that Hong Kong gift card I've been asking Santa for?
CC[/QUOTE]I was going to go to this place in Otay, but I missed the exit for the 905 and said what the fuck, let's go to Mexico. I spent 3 hours driving around Tijuana in hellish holiday traffic before I found the place I was looking for. And since I was already there. Hong Kong just happened to be on my way home.
[QUOTE=Kid Esquiss]Anyways, I moved away from california yesterday and back on the east coast and she knows that but why even try to contact me if I'm just a john?
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Ticket out of the Zona perhaps?
Who really knows what their intentions are. She told me she only likes to visit the U. S. Due to relatives. She's from Baja California which I don't think is as bad as the zona.
Kid esquiss you don't happen to have a pic of this chick do you? . Because you have her myspace. Just curious. Havnt been in Tijuana in forever. You can pm me if you don't wanna post it here.
[QUOTE=Gordog62]Can't tell you how many girls I talked to over the last few weeks who are NOT going home. They can not afford airline tickets this year. Their ecconmy is as bad or worse than ours.[/QUOTE]I know 9 chicas that went home for good,they aren't making any money as before.
Anybody know what is going on at the HK for New Years Eve? Promotions or excessive covers or talent shortages?
I spent Halloween and fell in love with little red riding hood, wasn't so into the zombies, and got spooked several times. It had a real "From Dusk till Dawn" thing going on and I had a blast.
First did the street walker thing then went to hk to have a drink and unwind then this hot chick sat in my lap start rubbing mr happy then put my hand undder her shorts and then she started jerking me off at the bar under my pants.
Bought her a drink cost 7 dollars. Then she did her sales pitch 40 dollars private room no sex but plenty of touching 1 hour, I passed I said sex she said 60 dollars I said I want BBBJ she said 70 dollars I said I want 2 pops she said fine. So I got 2 pops BBBJCIM then fs, man she sucked me dry then got me hard till we fucked for a while then came and sucked me some more.
Total damage 70 to her. 12 to hotel. 1 condom.
I'll be going back tonight again for some more hunting.
I was there for halloween also with my friend Mike. It was really fun.
[QUOTE=Pablito Diablito]Anybody know what is going on at the HK for New Years Eve? Promotions or excessive covers or talent shortages?
I spent Halloween and fell in love with little red riding hood, wasn't so into the zombies, and got spooked several times. It had a real "From Dusk till Dawn" thing going on and I had a blast.[/QUOTE]The dress code this year is Black dress. All the girls are trying to get dresses and look good! Their will be a ton of action and the place will be packed and fun.
My girl was complaining about buying a dresss:.(But many of the girls share and the day girls will give them up for the night girls etc. But needless to say they all look great dressed up for the prom
Been their the last time they did this for 15th aniversary and OMG they looked good. Liked it betterthan the slutty stuff. Maybe it was just a different perspective and they just looked classier.
Have fun and stay safe.
[QUOTE=Uncle Al]...I said sex she said 60 dollars I said I want BBBJ she said 70 dollars I said I want 2 pops she said fine. So I got 2 pops BBBJCIM then fs, man she sucked me dry then got me hard till we fucked for a while then came and sucked me some more.
Total damage 70 to her. 12 to hotel. 1 condom.
I'll be going back tonight again for some more hunting.[/QUOTE]Sounds nice Uncle. Can you share her name with us? BBBJCIM is a nice specialty that we all like to encourage here.
Went there on New Year's Eve, there was a rocking band, but the place was kinda empty, but the girls looked fine with there long black dresses, felt you where take out a girl on prom night.
Wow. I kinda wanted to check out Hong Kong for new years. I went for halloween and it was fun. So, did you do anything?
[QUOTE=Uncle Al]First did the street walker thing then went to hk to have a drink and unwind then this hot chick sat in my lap start rubbing mr happy then put my hand undder her shorts and then she started jerking me off at the bar under my pants.
Bought her a drink cost 7 dollars. Then she did her sales pitch 40 dollars private room no sex but plenty of touching 1 hour, I passed I said sex she said 60 dollars I said I want BBBJ she said 70 dollars I said I want 2 pops she said fine. So I got 2 pops BBBJCIM then fs, man she sucked me dry then got me hard till we fucked for a while then came and sucked me some more.
Total damage 70 to her. 12 to hotel. 1 condom.
I'll be going back tonight again for some more hunting.[/QUOTE]So give us some details? NAme? What does she look like? What was she wearing? 3 pops in 30 minutes? Must be nice to be 18 I'm lucky for that in 3 hours and she has to be hot and into it! :.(
Viva Viagra! Ctually Cialis is better.
[QUOTE=Gordog62]So give us some details? NAme? What does she look like? What was she wearing? 3 pops in 30 minutes? Must be nice to be 18 I'm lucky for that in 3 hours and she has to be hot and into it! :.(
Viva Viagra! Ctually Cialis is better.[/QUOTE]Actually Levitra is better. Quicker onset of action, milder side effects, and is not affected by alcohol. $10/pill at the pharmacia as you go through the rotating steel gate to get into TJ.
My buddy and I headed down this afternoon for some New Year's R&R. I'll admit I was concerned about the lines at the border coming back due to the long holiday. Our taxi driver assured me that pedestrians had no problems but cars took 2 hrs plus to get through, ultimately this proved to be the case. Had him drop us off in front of Adelitas, but walked over to the restaurant caddy corner to have some beers and a bite, forgot the name. There was a Norteno band in there and it was a decent enough place, 6 beers and 4 tacos, $13 plus tip.
The street hustlers are getting really aggressive and surly when you blow them off! Even had one comment on out UK accents so I know he spent a lot of time in the US.
Into HK and it's the first time in there since the remodel. My buddy who's a long time Thailand monger, really liked it, the relaxed atmosphere and sports club layout helped relax us but the constant, annoying waiters were a distraction. He ultimately went up with a nice gal (name unknown) who worked out pretty well for him. He wants to repeat ASAP.
I went with my regular, usual 3 positions, BBBJ covered FS etc. I wish I could remember her name. Big (tall) girl, great English, all natural, good figure, no kids, hairpiece that doesn't really match her natural hair, Arabic/Italian looking. $60 plus 12 room plus $2 cumboy (no early knock propina). Nice quick trip, will repeat soon
Well, I did say we'd repeat soon, so we went back yesterday. The place wasn't too crowded at 3pm. The girls told me they have problems with locals coming in with their pockets stuffed with beers, free show. After watching the dancers, soapy lesbo show and jacuzzi, we went arriba.
Same routine, but this time he tried a couple of different girls, one a very tall dyed blonde, slim with long legs. She was a dancer on the walkway. After he finished, she ran for it, nice bedside manner. My usual gives a passable GFE which is a neat trick in 30 minutes. I didn't try for seconds.
His second pop was with a small, dyed blonde, indian looking chica. He was very impressed with her tenacity as she wouldn't hear of him not finishing, kept at him. All the girls were $60 as usual, rooms $11 (I thought it's usually 12). The door guys tried the robe scam but we were moving too fast and just blew them off.
Later, say 6pm, the HK club was jumping, hooked up with another monger and his Latina lesbo GF. Had a few more beers while my wingman went for arriba #2. Walked over to Adelitas before heading for home. Nice, sedate trip.
[QUOTE=Dohhh]Actually Levitra is better. Quicker onset of action, milder side effects, and is not affected by alcohol. $10/pill at the pharmacia as you go through the rotating steel gate to get into TJ.[/QUOTE]
It’s a good idea to take your enhancers, whichever they may be, before leaving the pharmacias. Being caught with any type of drug, legal or not, is just asking for trouble with the cops. That means paying them with money you could be using for mongering.
[QUOTE=Dornyone]
After watching the dancers, soapy lesbo show and jacuzzi, we went arriba.
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Has anyone hooked up with any of the girls in lesbo show for a 2 girl romp?
Once I flirted with a couple of gals after their show, but the gal I was with was giving me TLN and didn’t like me flirting with other girls, so it didn’t work out.
[QUOTE=Surfnk9]Has anyone hooked up with any of the girls in lesbo show for a 2 girl romp?
Once I flirted with a couple of gals after their show, but the gal I was with was giving me TLN and didn’t like me flirting with other girls, so it didn’t work out. [/QUOTE]YES! They will go up together. I know one of my favorites does it all the time with her girlfriend. Ask them if they have a girl they like to do doubles with. Many of the girls work in "tandum" and look for guys that have friends etc. So they work together everyday and are used to going upstairs together.
Ask! Pregunta!
My buddy and I hit Tijuana last Sunday and Monday. Business is definitely off down there from 6 mos ago. Also the beggars are being super aggresive.
The lesbian show is not to be missed. These chicks actually eat pussy and lick ass holes, and for a buck you can finger there pussies and/or buttholes. I mean, where else can you give a hot chica a finger DP for $1?
Although I like variety, I ended up with the same chica both nights.
Sasha de Tijuana- 20 yo, black hair, and Very aggressive in the bar. Not so much in a rush, but she has no shyness at all about letting you feed on titty at the bar, and she either unzips pants and/or puts her hand down your pants for full access to Mr. Happy. I bought her a couple of fichas for her trouble, and we later went to the room. We settled on $60, but when I asked for kissing and DATY she wanted $10 more. I almost walked right then, because it seemed too much negotiation was going on. I also said I would only pay afterwards, not before. She suggested I put the $ on the table during our time together, and I agreed. She said that if she didn't perform as agreed, to tell the manager and she would be fired.
Her service was very good. CBJ with DT, LFK, and she seemed to enjoy the DATY. I pounded her in mish (my favorite) and was done way too early. She wanted to cuddle, and we did for quite a while. To my surprise, she then proceeded to try to get me ready for another go. At my age (early 50's) this wasn't going to happen, but I appreciated her efforts, and her staying until we got the knock about 4 times.
I went for it again with her on Monday night. We agreed on $100 for a full hour. I also asked for greek, but she wanted more since she had never done it. I decided to save the $ and forgo any associated drama, but I think she might try for $150 or $200 total. (just my impression). This session was not quite as good. The kisses weren't as plentiful, and she was looking at the wall during DATY. I need more interest or I have a harder time enjoying myself, especially if I've had a nut in the past day or so. I had a hard time keeping it up, and she ended up giving me a HJ. Kind of a disappointing finish to my trip, but overall I would recommend her. She also approved of me telling others about her on the internet to help her get more clients. I have a photo, and if I can figure out how to scan it in and cover my face, I'll do it.
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Sorry it took so long to get back I wasnt on line. I went back the next nite to hk but did a street girl first for 20 fuck and suck, stopped by hk and had a few drinks same girl was there I gues she works nites sorry I forgot here name but didn't pick up any one in hk that nite. Picked up another 20 dollar girl again after a few drinks. The hk girl had black brown hair around 5 2 or so a little belly fat but still cute but the good news is I'll be going back in 2 weeks so if shes still there I try to rember here name. I'm in cabo now so I'll see what up there.
[QUOTE=Uncle Al]Sorry it took so long to get back I wasnt on line. I went back the next nite to hk but did a street girl first for 20 fuck and suck, stopped by hk and had a few drinks same girl was there I gues she works nites sorry I forgot here name but didn't pick up any one in hk that nite. Picked up another 20 dollar girl again after a few drinks. The hk girl had black brown hair around 5 2 or so a little belly fat but still cute but the good news is I'll be going back in 2 weeks so if shes still there I try to rember here name. I'm in cabo now so I'll see what up there.[/QUOTE]This description sounds very much like Sasha de Tijuana, the chica in my report.
Are alot of these girls at hong kong strictly dancers or are they required to go upstairs? Do some of them have the options to go upstairs whenever they please?
I have not had a chance to visit the Hong Kong Club since it was remodeled, so I decided to check it out.
When I got to the Coahuila entrance I saw that entry required buying a can of Tecate for $3.50 from a big tub of ice near the front door. That's my preferred Zona Norte beverage, so I didn't mind.
It was about 11:00 p.m. when I stepped inside and the place was full, but not so crowded that you couldn't move around. After years of entering the Hong Kong Club from the alley it was a little strange to step inside from the opposite direction. Everything looked familiar, but the bars and stages and so forth were not where I expected them to be. But after wandering around a bit the expanded layout was clear. There are more bars than ever before, so even if you can't find one of the numerous waiters it's easy to get a drink. And after you're finished renting your beer, there are also more restrooms. One note of caution: If you're new to the Hong Kong Club keep your head down for the first few minutes. There are a [red]ton[/red] of steps, plus catwalks and other obstacles that can easily trip up the unwary. I saw a couple of tipsy chicas wipe out on different staircases.
Speaking of the chicas, I was very impressed. First, there were far more girls in there then I've ever seen before. The management must have laid on quite the recruiting drive. Roughly half wore their own outfits, and half wore snug red cocktail dresses. I gather the latter group are the artists formerly known as the sash girls. Second, the hotness factor has [red]drastically increased.[/red] The gorditas that used to comprise a significant portion of the lineup are almost entirely gone, there are a handful of truly stunning hotties, and the middle of the bell curve is well represented by a variety of eminently doable chicks.
As I wandered around the ground level I noticed that several booths were occupied by Asian guys who were doing some serious drinking with some of the hotter girls. Back in the mid-90s these guys frequented the Chicago Club, but that place is a tomb these days and it looks like they've transferred their flag to a new club. I also enjoyed leering at the soapy senorita lounging in the bubble bath.
I climbed the stairs to the second level, where a big crowd had gathered in the area where the private dance booths are located. Every single seat was occupied, there were half a dozen girls standing decoratively on the balcony overlooking the main floor, and there were even a few sweeties standing around at the top of the staircases.
It didn't take long for me to hook up with Elisabeth, a petite brunette with an impossibly young, perfectly gorgeous face and perky little A-cup tits. She had a little baby fat belly, but otherwise she looked damn good in a snug minidress. Most importantly, Elisabeth had a outgoing sexy personality that stood in welcome contrast to the "I'm hot, worship me" vibe affected by so many trophy fuck girls at the Adelita Bar.
We lucked out when a couple of seats opened up, so I was only to happy to pay $9 (including tip) to buy her a drink. As she sipped on some type of pastel-colored fluid, Elisabeth's tiny little hand went straight between my legs. Mr. Wood was definitely amused. There was also some light necking, although not exactly deep french kissing. Meanwhile I had a very nice time sliding my hands all over her compact little body. Her tits were the perfect handful size, her nipples felt great between my fingers, and it was a blast to be able to reach down and slip my finger inside the waistband of her tiny cotton panties.
After a fashion Elisabeth had polished off her fluid and we considered our options. She was more than ready to head to the hotel, but I was in tune up mode and not interested. We settled on a privado in one of the booths. There was a little language barrier, but as far as I could tell the going rate these days is $20 for ten minutes. I can't be certain, but I think she also said that an hour would be $42. That doesn't sound right to me, so if anybody can enlighten us that would be great.
The privado was definitely nice. In addition to yet more fondling, kissing and stroking Elisabeth upped the ante by unzipping my fly and reaching inside to give Mr. Wood a little manual stimulation. Pretty damn hot. Could I have busted a nut? I suspect that I would have had to pay for extra time, but probably. As I said, however, I was in tune up mode so it was fine by me as far as it went. After our time expired I sent Elisabeth on her way.
So for $29 I got to spend about 20 minutes fondling a very cute, very young looking girl. Even better, she reciprocated in kind with special attention for Mr. Wood. That's value, gentlemen. And that's why I love the Zona Norte.
Bunky
$40 for an hour is the quoted price. (I believe the mesero that shows you in receives the odd $2). I went for it during one of my visits and received a HJ which I didn't really want, but was too weak to resist! I go to TJ to fuck, not get HJ's!
I avoid the privadas for that reason.
The private lap dance room rate should be 40 dollars for one hour.
That's rate I was quoted. Hope that helps.
Hey there,
I'm new in this forum, im from Tijuana and my first language is spanish, so forgive me if my grammar is bad. lol
HK is my top bar, I know a considerable amount of girls working in the afternoon.
I recommend Karla from the Edecanes (the ones that have the bands over their chests). Shes a special girl, but when you get to know her after some ficha drinks she will do a great job, and shes beautiful. 18 years old.
Shes by far the greatest pussy i've ever tasted in HK
Thanks to the guys who answered my question.
Seems to me that an hour in the private booth would be a good deal if: (1) you're a horny bastard who just wants to grab and grope to tune up before banging the girl of your choice, or (2) you just want a quick pop via some yank on the crank. In either case the folks at the Hong Kong Club have you covered.
Bunky
Do the sasha girls need health cards? I took one up stairs and she was totaly unexperianced and seemed really nervous. She only wanted 50 for everything including anal. To bad I didn't have any lube.
Was enjoying the shaving cream show when the famous Salma stopped by with some napkins to help me clean up. Didn't recognize her at first, she looked a lot younger to me than the last time I saw her. Maybe a year ago. She was not sporting the big hair clip as in the past.
Not the best looking girl there by far, but the level of service is far beyond that of any other provider I've met in my long career at this hobby.
You get anything and everything you want with Salma, and with a smile and great attitude. Took a trip around the world visiting all three ports, then returned to the point of origin for a nice messy finish on her lips and tongue.
Priceless, but at the standard fare.
[QUOTE=Yoshineman]Do the sasha girls need health cards? I took one up stairs and she was totaly unexperianced and seemed really nervous. She only wanted 50 for everything including anal. To bad I didn't have any lube.[/QUOTE]I call BS!
no place will let someone go up in their rooms if they have no health cards. they can get shutdown (or in reality have to pay a high multa)
let's hear some details (names, descrription) so someone can check and confirm (so others can go where you have!!)
[QUOTE=Lulu Pussy]Was enjoying the shaving cream show when the famous Salma stopped by with some napkins to help me clean up. Didn't recognize her at first, she looked a lot younger to me than the last time I saw her. Maybe a year ago. She was not sporting the big hair clip as in the past.
Not the best looking girl there by far, but the level of service is far beyond that of any other provider I've met in my long career at this hobby.
You get anything and everything you want with Salma, and with a smile and great attitude. Took a trip around the world visiting all three ports, then returned to the point of origin for a nice messy finish on her lips and tongue.
Priceless, but at the standard fare.[/QUOTE]
Salma ("not the same as Salma Hyak!") is a very good girl with a big heart and a great attitude. Anyone familiar with my history knows I spent a lot of time with this gal, so I have a soft spot for her soft spots. She's been working out a lot. When she does that she firms up that nice form she has. I hear she's telling people that she's 28. Oh well, women always LIE about their age, but it's the service that counts.
Treat her right and if you repeat, the service get's better.
Regarding the sash girls, technically speaking they are not sex workers. I think the arrangement is that they are window dressing with a wet spot. They go up "independently," and therefore I don't think the club requires them to have a card, OR, they don't have a card for "some other reason." There is a rub to it, I need to find out what it is.
Be safe and be nice
Country John
[QUOTE=Country John]Salma ("not the same as Salma Hyak!") is a very good girl with a big heart and a great attitude. Anyone familiar with my history knows I spent a lot of time with this gal, so I have a soft spot for her soft spots. She's been working out a lot. When she does that she firms up that nice form she has. I hear she's telling people that she's 28. Oh well, women always LIE about their age, but it's the service that counts.
Treat her right and if you repeat, the service get's better.
Regarding the sash girls, technically speaking they are not sex workers. I think the arrangement is that they are window dressing with a wet spot. They go up "independently," and therefore I don't think the club requires them to have a card, OR, they don't have a card for "some other reason." There is a rub to it, I need to find out what it is.
Be safe and be nice
Country John[/QUOTE]
Hi, CJ
I'll post the results of my TLN later. But Salma says Hi, and she had loads of good comments about you. Send me those pix you promised. She really wants copies, as she lost hers in the airport. You know the story.
I wondered where she got all the money she was throwing around Saturday night. She wouldn't cop to going arriba, but now I know! :)
BTW, she says (to me, anyway) she's 37. That's probably pretty close to the truth.
[quote=adventur]i call bs!
no place will let someone go up in their rooms if they have no health cards. they can get shutdown (or in reality have to pay a high multa)
[/quote]
not from what i hear. although i've not been in a bar when the card inspectors come in i've heard countless stories about how they rep001ter and hide in the ladies room or slip out a fire exit when the inspectors come in. on the other hand very few street chicas that are stationed at the same spot will run as they keep theirs up to date.
[QUOTE=Adventur]I call BS!
no place will let someone go up in their rooms if they have no health cards. they can get shutdown (or in reality have to pay a high multa)[/QUOTE]At Mermaids the girls with no health cards (the non-Mexicans) are not dressed in the usual school girl uniform, but definitely go upstairs. I don't doubt that there are laws on the books that stipulate fines, but come on, this is Mexico, the government is obviously NOT in control.
[QUOTE=Phordphan]Hi, CJ
I'll post the results of my TLN later. But Salma says Hi, and she had loads of good comments about you. Send me those pix you promised. She really wants copies, as she lost hers in the airport. You know the story.
I wondered where she got all the money she was throwing around Saturday night. She wouldn't cop to going arriba, but now I know! :)
BTW, she says (to me, anyway) she's 37. That's probably pretty close to the truth.[/QUOTE]
What a sweetheart. Yeah, 37 is close enough. She told you about the other pics eh? OK, now I need to go through my pre-W-2 Divorce stuff. I'll do it.
She goes arriba faster than a home sick angel. She makes good money. Bless her. She's worth it though, every dime. I often think she'd be a great outcall, but she seems to like the express lane.
I look forward to your trip report.
Country John
After staggering down the steps of the Rio Nilo, following my session with the lovely and gracious Araceli de DF, it was time to make my way to HK.
It was just after 7 when I got to the door and they were already doing the can-o-beer cover charge. Rats! Went in looking for Salma. Did 2 or 3 complete laps of the first two floors, but no dice. I figured she was prolly upstairs. So, I picked out a spot at the end of the bar nearest Coahuila. A young lovely at the pole kept squatting and showing off a wonderful pair of pussy lips, so I got ready to make myself comfortable. I was setting down my jacket and reaching for my wad of singles when I was accosted from behind. Ahh, the Divine Ms. S. Great timing. Not!
She insisted I buy her one ficha, which she nursed for the next 30 minutes, or so. We caught up a bit, then she said she had to run off and pay a $10 debt. Seems she was fined by the mamasan for not wearing a dress on some prior evening. I proceeded to do a gynecological exam of the young lady at the pole. Ms. S returned, we schmoozed some more until just after 8. She ran off to get dressed; I ogled the new gaggle of chicas, especially one Paulina. Looong black hair and an ass you could bounce quarters off. Mmmmm, quarters! Had to fend off one Estrella, she of the aluminum smile. Seemed kinda cute.
Ms. S returned in a pretty red cocktail dress with a black belt. She looked good. She grabbed me away from Paulina and hauled my ass out the door. Some Mexican kid was watching me, nodding his head and grinning from ear to ear.
This was supposed to be my “reimbursement” for some money I had sent to her over the Christmas holidays. She ran short and needed some dough for her daughter’s quinceanera. I didn’t really expect anything in return, but who was I to argue?
So, we walk up Constitucion and cut over to Revu. Bunches of cop trucks and zillions of cops doing something on Articulo 123. Up Revu and she asks me where I’m from. I told her the city and state where I was born. She said no, where is your blood? Oh, my ancestry. They’re all from Ireland. It was rather tough sledding, off and on all night, trying to explain where Ireland is located.
“So you’re not French?”
“No, not French.”
“You’re sure?”
“Yes, pretty sure.”
“Not Italian?”
“No, almost all Irish.”
“I used to know a French man.”
“Oh, Country John?”
“Yes, Country John….”
Then she paused, did a sort of double-take.
“How do you know Country John?”
“Oh, I’ve known him for a long time. He told me all about you. He told me to tell you hello.”
Well, that certainly shocked the snot out of her.
“Man, everybody knows about me!”
She then regaled me, for the rest of the evening, with tales of the Exploits of Country John and His Faithful Sidekick, Mr. Blue! :D
We got to the Espana and dumped the 50 lbs. of crap she hauls with her everywhere, and then she called her daughter. We were supposed to meet her for dinner, so she could thank me, in person, for the stuff I supposedly paid for. While we were waiting, Ms. S showed me the cute thong underwear she was almost wearing, and a freshly barbered panocha.
Then we went outside, over to Constitucion and to a nearby pharmacia to wait for her daughter. Ms. S told me that we were going to have dinner with her daughter and her daughter’s boyfriend, but that she (Salma) was paying for the kids. OK by me.
After everybody showed up, Ms. S bundled us into a taxi and took us to La Fogata, which I think is near Plaza Rio. This place was fairly pricey, IMHO. Everything was $10 - $20. It was also the absolute worst food I can remember eating in years. The chiles rellenos were completely tasteless and the steaks made shoe leather seem appetizing. I wouldn’t recommend this place to anybody. :( I figured I was going to run short of money sometime soon, so I handed Ms. S what I had in my pocket, which was $30 US and about $300p, and told her that I was now, officially, broke and she was responsible for any and all monetary expenditures from this point forward. Or words to that effect.
After dinner we cabbed it back to Las Pulgas. The kids split for home and we went inside. What a mob. Danced for a couple of hours, had a cerveza or two. She doesn’t drink outside of work, BTW. Earlier she had insisted I wear my shit-kickers (cowboy boots to those of you in San Ysidro). I hadn’t worn them in many years, and my feet were hurting. So, instead of tripping the light fantastic until dawn we called it quits about 1:30am. That was OK with her, as her normal bedtime is supposedly 11pm.
We walked back to the Espana, and, wonder of wonders, the entire boulevard was lit up like a Christmas tree. Nice change from several months ago when it was as black as Pelosi’s heart. No ratero policia lurking in the shadows this night.
Once in the room the fun finally began. Ms. S is really a nympho, once you get her started. But first we had to make the bed with the additional blanket she’d brought, so she wouldn’t get cold. Seriously. Then everybody into the shower.
Ms. S dearly loves to have her pussy eaten while she twiddles with her nips. I mean she is really into it. So, she straddles my face and we get busy. After a few minutes she’s moaning softly, then louder and more often. Her face and shoulder are braced against the wall for support, leaving her hands free to caress her nipples. After about 20 minutes, or so, she really lets loose and has finally had enough. After a quick breather she starts in on some mighty fine BBBJ. Very nice and very relaxing. After 10 or 15 minutes of this, I make her stop and flip her onto her back. However, she’s ready to go again. She keeps telling me it’s my fault she’s so horny. OK. I’ll wait. I dive in and start the clit massage all over again.
After her second round, she’s finally finished and begins more BBBJ. We then switch to mish, and she wants to do BBFS. I’m not so sure. Then we decide on the back door, so BB is not an option. I finally finish and collapse in a heap. After a quick cleanup, it’s time to sleep.
Ms. S comes out of the bathroom and bundles up in her parka. WTF? She says she didn’t bring her jammies, and she’ll get cold. You gotta be kidding. But she hops in bed with it. I lie down and wonder what it’s going to be like cuddling with a nylon parka. After 2 minutes she decides that it was a bad idea, way too uncomfortable, and takes it off.
Sleeping with Ms. S is very difficult. The beds at the Espana are a little small, and she tends to toss a lot. She is an extremely light sleeper. To make matters worse she had a cough. So, between the small bed, the tossing, the coughing and her occasional snoring, nobody got much sleep. :(
At around 8am they start running these damned laundry carts up and down the halls, so it’s impossible to stay asleep. We lie there for a long time, dozing. As she wakes up more she begins to chat more. I’m not a chatty guy in the morning! :)
After she fully wakes up, the hormones start raging and she’s ready for round 3. Ding-ding. So, after plenty of hugs and kisses she sits on my face and goes to town.
When she’s finished, I get up to take a quick leak. She says “You need to come in me.” :eek: Lucky for both of us that, in addition to not being very chatty in the morning, I really don’t like sex in the morning. Everything works, but the desire isn’t really there. It’s always been that way. She’s very persuasive, but I have real mixed feelings about sexo sin condon with working girls.
We finally get our shit together and vacate the room by about 11:30. She needs to get home to relieve the babysitter and I have to get home to change out a fuel pump and watch the Super Bowl. She offered to pay the cab and give me some money, but I’d saved some cab fare and had stashed some money in the car. So, we kissed good-bye, I put her into a cab, then I caught the next one.
In retrospect, a good time was had by all. But it’s not all skittles and beer. I think one needs the patience of a saint to hang with Ms. S for any length of time. She has very mercurial moods, for which she takes medication. They range from talkative in the extreme, to crying jags, to extremely loving, to horny nympho. Mind you, I’m not complaining or criticizing. It’s fun to be along for the ride, and she’s a fascinating woman. She has a great personality and a heart as big as all outdoors. If you meet her in HK, treat her right. Buy her a ficha or tip her a few bux at the least. She’s worth it.
If you want a good BBBJCIM, RIM, Greek then I would suggest Jennifer. Not the best looking but 10+ service. She works days and saturdays.
$50+13+5(tip)
[QUOTE=Phordphan]After staggering down the steps of the Rio Nilo, following my session with the lovely and gracious Araceli de DF, it was time to make my way to HK.
It was just after 7 when I got to the door and they were already doing the can-o-beer cover charge. Rats! Went in looking for Salma. Did 2 or 3 complete laps of the first two floors, but no dice. I figured she was prolly upstairs. So, I picked out a spot at the end of the bar nearest Coahuila. A young lovely at the pole kept squatting and showing off a wonderful pair of pussy lips, so I got ready to make myself comfortable. I was setting down my jacket and reaching for my wad of singles when I was accosted from behind. Ahh, the Divine Ms. S. Great timing. Not!
She insisted I buy her one ficha, which she nursed for the next 30 minutes, or so. We caught up a bit, then she said she had to run off and pay a $10 debt. Seems she was fined by the mamasan for not wearing a dress on some prior evening. I proceeded to do a gynecological exam of the young lady at the pole. Ms. S returned, we schmoozed some more until just after 8. She ran off to get dressed; I ogled the new gaggle of chicas, especially one Paulina. Looong black hair and an ass you could bounce quarters off. Mmmmm, quarters! Had to fend off one Estrella, she of the aluminum smile. Seemed kinda cute.
Ms. S returned in a pretty red cocktail dress with a black belt. She looked good. She grabbed me away from Paulina and hauled my ass out the door. Some Mexican kid was watching me, nodding his head and grinning from ear to ear.
This was supposed to be my “reimbursement” for some money I had sent to her over the Christmas holidays. She ran short and needed some dough for her daughter’s quinceanera. I didn’t really expect anything in return, but who was I to argue?
So, we walk up Constitucion and cut over to Revu. Bunches of cop trucks and zillions of cops doing something on Articulo 123. Up Revu and she asks me where I’m from. I told her the city and state where I was born. She said no, where is your blood? Oh, my ancestry. They’re all from Ireland. It was rather tough sledding, off and on all night, trying to explain where Ireland is located.
“So you’re not French?”
“No, not French.”
“You’re sure?”
“Yes, pretty sure.”
“Not Italian?”
“No, almost all Irish.”
“I used to know a French man.”
“Oh, Country John?”
“Yes, Country John….”
Then she paused, did a sort of double-take.
“How do you know Country John?”
“Oh, I’ve known him for a long time. He told me all about you. He told me to tell you hello.”
Well, that certainly shocked the snot out of her.
“Man, everybody knows about me!”
She then regaled me, for the rest of the evening, with tales of the Exploits of Country John and His Faithful Sidekick, Mr. Blue! :D
We got to the Espana and dumped the 50 lbs. of crap she hauls with her everywhere, and then she called her daughter. We were supposed to meet her for dinner, so she could thank me, in person, for the stuff I supposedly paid for. While we were waiting, Ms. S showed me the cute thong underwear she was almost wearing, and a freshly barbered panocha.
Then we went outside, over to Constitucion and to a nearby pharmacia to wait for her daughter. Ms. S told me that we were going to have dinner with her daughter and her daughter’s boyfriend, but that she (Salma) was paying for the kids. OK by me.
After everybody showed up, Ms. S bundled us into a taxi and took us to La Fogata, which I think is near Plaza Rio. This place was fairly pricey, IMHO. Everything was $10 - $20. It was also the absolute worst food I can remember eating in years. The chiles rellenos were completely tasteless and the steaks made shoe leather seem appetizing. I wouldn’t recommend this place to anybody. :( I figured I was going to run short of money sometime soon, so I handed Ms. S what I had in my pocket, which was $30 US and about $300p, and told her that I was now, officially, broke and she was responsible for any and all monetary expenditures from this point forward. Or words to that effect.
After dinner we cabbed it back to Las Pulgas. The kids split for home and we went inside. What a mob. Danced for a couple of hours, had a cerveza or two. She doesn’t drink outside of work, BTW. Earlier she had insisted I wear my shit-kickers (cowboy boots to those of you in San Ysidro). I hadn’t worn them in many years, and my feet were hurting. So, instead of tripping the light fantastic until dawn we called it quits about 1:30am. That was OK with her, as her normal bedtime is supposedly 11pm.
We walked back to the Espana, and, wonder of wonders, the entire boulevard was lit up like a Christmas tree. Nice change from several months ago when it was as black as Pelosi’s heart. No ratero policia lurking in the shadows this night.
Once in the room the fun finally began. Ms. S is really a nympho, once you get her started. But first we had to make the bed with the additional blanket she’d brought, so she wouldn’t get cold. Seriously. Then everybody into the shower.
Ms. S dearly loves to have her pussy eaten while she twiddles with her nips. I mean she is really into it. So, she straddles my face and we get busy. After a few minutes she’s moaning softly, then louder and more often. Her face and shoulder are braced against the wall for support, leaving her hands free to caress her nipples. After about 20 minutes, or so, she really lets loose and has finally had enough. After a quick breather she starts in on some mighty fine BBBJ. Very nice and very relaxing. After 10 or 15 minutes of this, I make her stop and flip her onto her back. However, she’s ready to go again. She keeps telling me it’s my fault she’s so horny. OK. I’ll wait. I dive in and start the clit massage all over again.
After her second round, she’s finally finished and begins more BBBJ. We then switch to mish, and she wants to do BBFS. I’m not so sure. Then we decide on the back door, so BB is not an option. I finally finish and collapse in a heap. After a quick cleanup, it’s time to sleep.
Ms. S comes out of the bathroom and bundles up in her parka. WTF? She says she didn’t bring her jammies, and she’ll get cold. You gotta be kidding. But she hops in bed with it. I lie down and wonder what it’s going to be like cuddling with a nylon parka. After 2 minutes she decides that it was a bad idea, way too uncomfortable, and takes it off.
Sleeping with Ms. S is very difficult. The beds at the Espana are a little small, and she tends to toss a lot. She is an extremely light sleeper. To make matters worse she had a cough. So, between the small bed, the tossing, the coughing and her occasional snoring, nobody got much sleep. :(
At around 8am they start running these damned laundry carts up and down the halls, so it’s impossible to stay asleep. We lie there for a long time, dozing. As she wakes up more she begins to chat more. I’m not a chatty guy in the morning! :)
After she fully wakes up, the hormones start raging and she’s ready for round 3. Ding-ding. So, after plenty of hugs and kisses she sits on my face and goes to town.
When she’s finished, I get up to take a quick leak. She says “You need to come in me.” :eek: Lucky for both of us that, in addition to not being very chatty in the morning, I really don’t like sex in the morning. Everything works, but the desire isn’t really there. It’s always been that way. She’s very persuasive, but I have real mixed feelings about sexo sin condon with working girls.
We finally get our shit together and vacate the room by about 11:30. She needs to get home to relieve the babysitter and I have to get home to change out a fuel pump and watch the Super Bowl. She offered to pay the cab and give me some money, but I’d saved some cab fare and had stashed some money in the car. So, we kissed good-bye, I put her into a cab, then I caught the next one.
In retrospect, a good time was had by all. But it’s not all skittles and beer. I think one needs the patience of a saint to hang with Ms. S for any length of time. She has very mercurial moods, for which she takes medication. They range from talkative in the extreme, to crying jags, to extremely loving, to horny nympho. Mind you, I’m not complaining or criticizing. It’s fun to be along for the ride, and she’s a fascinating woman. She has a great personality and a heart as big as all outdoors. If you meet her in HK, treat her right. Buy her a ficha or tip her a few bux at the least. She’s worth it.[/QUOTE]
I'm aware that it is sometimes rude to quote an entire trip report, but I wanted to make sure you read it before reading my reply. It's a great TR. I remember her fondly. I always thought how nice it would be if my wife (who I enjoyed fucking) could be just like her. Seriousy. That huge smile, and she really puts herself out there to you. A lot of fun to have around. Imagine a lifetime of that.
But I remember at the time she would have been a big number, the kids were small and she called me many times from Michoacan asking me to send her $10.00 by Western Union. One night I got her to admit that she has a list. I laughed my ass off. Several guys would send her money so she always had access to cash.
I'm glad you enjoyed the time with her. She's probably a good taste of what a very cool Mexican girlfriend would be like. I'm also glad you treated her right. I can just see that red dress on the floor now.
"Mr. Blue" happens to be my good friend Bluenose. You newbies would have a real laugh if you rsearched some trip reports back in late '03 and '04. A very interesting time.
Salma is worth the fee. If she goes up then she likes you and you will like that.
Nice TR PhordPhan. I drive a Phord. Great car.
Country John
[QUOTE=George Sims]I am asking in the most current place. BUt here me out. I am looking to find a girl that would like to come over the boarder and come to usa with me. I would like to do this with the non-traditional way and pay someone to get her over. I am not looking for a sex slave or anything horrible. I would provide a good life. I see tons of girls over in Tijuana and they all don't seem to want to come over. THis does not have to be in Tijuana, it can be anywhere. So if anyone over there knows of a girl that want to come over please let me know. I am willing to travel anywhere.[/QUOTE]
You want help smuggling an illegal over the border so you can have a girl friend?
Well, Mr. White Knight, I think I can speak for many board members when I say "Get bent!"
[QUOTE=George Sims]I am asking in the most current place. BUt here me out. I am looking to find a girl that would like to come over the boarder and come to usa with me. I would like to do this with the non-traditional way and pay someone to get her over. I am not looking for a sex slave or anything horrible. I would provide a good life. I see tons of girls over in Tijuana and they all don't seem to want to come over. THis does not have to be in Tijuana, it can be anywhere. So if anyone over there knows of a girl that want to come over please let me know. I am willing to travel anywhere.[/QUOTE]
Hello George. What you are asking is something that you would not be able to find on this board. YOu would have to physically come here, present yourself, do the legwork and then take it from there. You should also seek some legal counsel on what you are asking because merely being involved could land you behind bars. Not nice. The term is "[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908][CodeWord908][/url]" I believe and could land you in federal prison. THe girl gets to come back to Mexico at taxpayer expense.
Girls in Mexico might be a bit shy to the proposition of leaving immediately for the USA with someone they don't know and without paperwork etc. Only girls that actively work in the sex trade would be the best bet for finding someone quickly, and even they would have problems after a short time, these problems would become your problems and you do not need those kinds of problems.
You might consider getting a place here and a steady girl if you can afford it. It's nice to have an international boundary separating you from the girl, especially if you got something going on Stateside.
You never know who you might run into on a public board, so I guess a shot in the dark is always worth the effort if you want something bad enough. But we are about mongering, trip reports etc. While I like to help mongers out with advice about Tijuana and the girls, getting them state side without papers is not something I would even want to get involved in, and neither should you.
Be safe and be nice
Country John
[QUOTE=George Sims]I am asking in the most current place. BUt here me out. I am looking to find a girl that would like to come over the boarder and come to usa with me. I would like to do this with the non-traditional way and pay someone to get her over. I am not looking for a sex slave or anything horrible. I would provide a good life. I see tons of girls over in Tijuana and they all don't seem to want to come over. THis does not have to be in Tijuana, it can be anywhere. So if anyone over there knows of a girl that want to come over please let me know. I am willing to travel anywhere.[/QUOTE]
Sounds like you're really lonely. Try googling, Mail order brides. lol.
[QUOTE=Phordphan]Up Revu and she asks me where I’m from. I told her the city and state where I was born. She said no, where is your blood? Oh, my ancestry. They’re all from Ireland.
then she called her daughter. We were supposed to meet her for dinner, so she could thank me, in person,
told me that we were going to have dinner with her daughter and her daughter’s boyfriend,
After her second round, she’s finally finished and begins more BBBJ. We then switch to mish, and she wants to do BBFS. I’m not so sure.
...
When she’s finished, I get up to take a quick leak. She says “You need to come in me.” :eek: Lucky for both of us that, in addition to not being very chatty in the morning, I really don’t like sex in the morning. Everything works, but the desire isn’t really there. It’s always been that way. She’s very persuasive, but I have real mixed feelings about sexo sin condon with working girls.
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Couldn't help but notice that she wanted condomless sex from you. Twice! Plus she introduced you to her daughter and her boyfriend plus took you out to dinner like a family. And also asks you about your heritage. Think of all this as what you want but it seems a bit suspicious to me.
[QUOTE=George Sims]I am asking in the most current place. BUt here me out. I am looking to find a girl that would like to come over the boarder and come to usa with me. I would like to do this with the non-traditional way and pay someone to get her over. I am not looking for a sex slave or anything horrible. I would provide a good life. I see tons of girls over in Tijuana and they all don't seem to want to come over. THis does not have to be in Tijuana, it can be anywhere. So if anyone over there knows of a girl that want to come over please let me know. I am willing to travel anywhere.[/QUOTE]Be aware that by going about this in the "non-traditional" way you will be putting your life and her life at risk. I second the motion to "Get bent" and take this shit somewhere else because we want nothing to do with it.
[QUOTE=Efjayel]Couldn't help but notice that she wanted condomless sex from you. Twice! Plus she introduced you to her daughter and her boyfriend plus took you out to dinner like a family. And also asks you about your heritage. Think of all this as what you want but it seems a bit suspicious to me.[/QUOTE]
Yes, your point is well taken. I've had the same thing happen to me in Thailand.
I think she would like to take this to a much higher level, but I'm truly not in a position to do that. It's unfortunate, too, because she is an extremely sweet lady.
I will be in SD in about 2 weeks and plan to visit Tijuana for the first time. Reading some of your post I can see that GFE is available in some of the clubs, just what I am looking for after a few cold ones. How about the Alley girls that I have read about. Sounds like there are some cuties out there also. Are they the friendly type? GFE? I would like to sample as much as possible in the short time that I am there.
Thanks
Went to honk Kong this Sunday seemed to slow, couldn't find anything good, its been like that for a couple of weeks now. So went to adelitas I also no joy, almost till I saw this huge girl she was 6. 4 I guess I’m 5. 8, very nice body good curves, blonde short hair, nice tits, went to the hotel, when she took her hell of she was still so tall about 6 feet, she was huge, but nice body, service was average.
Driving through Mexico as a tourist is not recommended. Especially not now. My sister got assaulted by the police on the road back from Rosarito. Something that happens a lot.
If you're looking for girl to start a relationship with, a hooker is the wrong place to start.
[QUOTE=George Sims]Thanks for the help guys. It was just a mere question. I like the latin girls and I have been to Tijuana a few times. Now that you guys point out the bad stuff I see that it is not a good idea. I am interested in a Latin girl but all the dating sites seem be focused on Asian and Russian brides. Where that is not my thing. I did go to Philapeans last week and I must say guys. The girls there are free but you can pay if you want it quicker. And they will leave when you want them to. If you go score at a bar on just merit and take them home they will not leave. The girls in Mexico seem to be hardened by the game and not too enthusiastic. But I will be returning to Tijuana on March 8th for fun. Me and some friends are going to Roserito for Spring Break. March 8th to 15th. IS THIS A GOOD TIME TO GO? I have never been there for spring break. Can anyone give me any pointers on spring break time? And again. Thanks for the pointers.[/QUOTE]When returning from lower parts of Baja several years ago I passed through Roserito during spring break. Kids were out of control, drunk, rude, and obnoxious. Basically behaving in a way they could never get away with north of the border; just what locals hate (especially cops).
Using Mexico as a place to express yourself in a way you can’t at home disrespects the people. There are enough problems between the two cultures, going there and acting outrageously doesn’t help in the big picture of things, and only makes you a target on the personal level.
That being said, this was before the meth epidemic and the narco wars: so I would be even more apprehensive to encourage anyone of college age to go south of the border to party. I wouldn’t worry too much about the narco drug cartels, it’s the petty thieves and cops to watch out for. Just like in T. J.
Went HK and tried to find the girl who gave me BBBJCIM and no luck slim pickins that nite. Only 2 hot girls and one was eating dinner so I bought the other one a drink we negioateted for hotel and she want 100 dollars I played stupid and made like I don't understand what she said, she said whatyou want to spend I was pissed that she was high balling me so I low balled her 50 dollars because she said no bbj. She no so I walked then she and the watier came after me and 60 dollars and I said I would have done that in the first place if she didn't try to rip me off so I said I was going somewhere else.
Lesson learned never pay more than 60 in hk.
Is it really $40 for one hour private dance?
I have also read $11 for 5 minutes.
Last night was hoping to find provider par excellance Salma as I had built up a good sized load and was dreaming of putting it onto her tongue as i had last time I was down in TJ. Alas, no Salma. Wound up having an OK experience with Saffire from Mexico City. Very nice looking, lovely natural tits and an incredibly cute little cooch. Gave her a few singles during her dance. Asked her upstairs. Turns out this girl has plenty of rules. Rule numero uno is nothing unwrapped. big drag there. So she bags junior right away and goes into a CBJ. Despite the glad bag, she did a very nice nob job, lots of eye contact and she is very cute so the visuals were all there. I asked about DATY and she told me that was $20 extra. WTF! Anyway, several positions later our time is running out and I'm not even close due to the fucking 20 mil thick condoms these girls use (keep forgetting to bring my own). I opt for an uncovered handy to finish. I tell her I want to cum on her tits, she says no (turns out she's still nursing her son, and gives her nip a squeeze to prove it). So OK, fine, I can understand she doesn't want her one-year old boy sucking cum-crusted nips. So I'm trying to opt for something else reasonably entertaining, tummy, leg, foot, something. But no, I start cumming and she jumps away like I'm dribbling lava. Just not as much fun as it should of being. Ok though.
Went back this morning a little before noon. Tipped Lisa de Acapulco $2-3 while she was dancing. After her set she plopped down next to me and started rubbing my dick. Good Morning! Little more of this, some very soft kissing, a few neck bites and I'm convinced. Arriba. She too is condom everying, but the session was a lot more fun with her. I would recommend her.
BTW, entering the first turnstiles you now see a couple military guys with Marina across their camos holding assault rifles. Welcome to Mexico!
When I left about 2 am last night, there where a total 3 people waiting ahead of me at the border. When i repeated that about 1pm today, there were hundreds, but the line moved quickly, maybe about 20 minutes. have you guys noticed that when all the border agents are working, the line that's furthest to the right moves about 20x faster than all the other, much shorter lines?
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Salma usually finishes up at 8pm, she never misses her novellas at 9pm. Get there a bit earlier next time.
I'm glad Salma is getting some positive press here. I've known her for a long time and I remember her well from our sessions a few years back. I've not seen her in a while and I hear she's looking better than ever. I [u]ALMOST[/u] got a bit serious with her. I'm glad now that I didn't because I don't think I was quite ready for her. She's a sweetheart, so treat her right; she's probably one of the best sessions there right now.
[QUOTE=Lulu Pussy] have you guys noticed that when all the border agents are working, the line that's furthest to the right moves about 20x faster than all the other, much shorter lines?[/QUOTE]Yes, I have noticed that too and always head to the right. Of course, once when only about 6 lanes were open I went to the right with my friend and it wasn't the fastest line. He doesn't buy my "rule of thumb" anymore.
How much action is happening at HK on a Sunday night?
[QUOTE=Socal Pimp]How much action is happening at HK on a Sunday night?[/QUOTE]You are better off at any club on Ave Rev. around 5th and 6th.
I am happy to give advice like this to a person like you as I am sure most will.
[QUOTE=Socal Pimp]How much action is happening at HK on a Sunday night?[/QUOTE]
At the top of the page is a link to abbreviations.
RTFF
[QUOTE=Socal Pimp]How much action is happening at HK on a Sunday night?[/QUOTE]Right now the zona is kind of slow, but out by the airport, La Mesa and the east side of town there is always a surplus of action. You should check it out, it's rad.
What does the word on the stash mean anyways? To answer the guy who asked yes these girls are available but on a case by case basis and depending on the customer. To me they so much more attractive than the regular strippers/workers there?
Depending on your type the aren't fake tits AB hotties but more the cute girl next door young innocent looking type. Which to many guys are much hotter than the fake tits and heavy makeup AB girls. To me i go back and forth on the issue and depending on my tastes at the moment. Some of these newer girls remind me of little Claudia from AB who i havent seen in some time.
I'm not sure why but the girls at night wear the stash but the day shift hk dancers don't.
[QUOTE=Sgt Perv]You are better off at any club on Ave Rev. Around 5th and 6th.
I am happy to give advice like this to a person like you as I am sure most will.[/QUOTE]Rev street is where I saw your mom wearing a black and white shirt and pantsuit, taking pics with overweight, elderly tourists.
[QUOTE=Sgt Perv]You are better off at any club on Ave Rev. around 5th and 6th.
I am happy to give advice like this to a person like you as I am sure most will.[/QUOTE]Oh Rev, thats where I saw your wife, wearing a black and white striped shirt and pants taking pics with tourists. Eating from a bucket.
[QUOTE=Socal Pimp]Rev street is where I saw your mom wearing a black and white shirt and pantsuit, taking pics with overweight, elderly tourists.[/QUOTE]Is there suppose to be some type of shame/insult connected with that statement ?
When your parents let you borrow their car, you should go to TJ and see how common that is on Ave Rev.
Be sure to check out the airport for some action also.
[QUOTE=Surfnk9]At the top of the page is a link to abbreviations.
RTFF[/QUOTE]
lmao!
Seriously, regardless of the night, there's more and better action to be had at any of the zona clubs... when compared to SD sw's. I went to HK two Wednesdays ago, in the early afternoon(in the afternoon, for Christ's sake!). I found exactly what I was looking for. Then I sampled off Constitution, for dessert.
I don't remember the girl's name at HK, but her and her (supposed)sister work the day shift. First I bought my girl a drink, then she asked if her 'sister' could join. So, I bought them both one more. And that was a nice 20 minutes, definitely worth trying once. The other girl might really have been her sister- there was no offer of her joining us upstairs. Anyway. In the hotel, total GFE. Really sensuous experience. The usual 60 at the end, and that was that.
On the street, I decided to sample one of the girls that stand at the corner of Constitution and Calle Coahuila, on the southeast corner- with the girls that always wear that classic schoolgirl uniform. I'm a fool for that sort of thing. Anyway, standard 20 bucks, standard service that 20 bucks elicits.
I celebrated with a cigar from LCDH for the drive home. Perfect afternoon, really.
NoZ
RTFF is more than information regarding where and when.
If anyone goes a significant ways back and reads the postings, he’ll find a lot of the usual, don’t get outta control, watch out for the cops ect, ect… Even when one of us steps on someone else’s toe, (I’m no exception), it doesn’t go too far. It is part of the good will we have here in a common cause, which is good sex at a good price.
In addition they’ll find the sentiment of almost all posters here is that even though these women sell their bodies, they’re still human beings.
Degrading and/or demeaning the women who provide their services is not welcome.
[QUOTE=Surfnk9]In addition they’ll find the sentiment of almost all posters here is that even though these women sell their bodies, they’re still human beings.
Degrading and/or demeaning the women who provide their services is not welcome.[/QUOTE]
Yes exactly. It's hard to believe how some guys see them as nothing but a hole to stick their dicks into. As if they're nothing, and somehow those guy's also think they are so much better than them simply because they live a better life. Well if their lives are so much better then what are they doing screwing someone they have no respect for? The majority of these women lead this kind of life because of hard economic times, desperation for money, to feed their kids. And yet somehow these jerks look down on them because they chose this life. Well it wasn't so much a choice as it was their only option so as to not live on the street and beg for money.
Even then, I also doubt they have any respect for the poor women who did preffer to beg for money than to prostitute themselves. These people can be such assholes.
After trop, I needed to recharge. I then went into l/c.. There were a few doable chicas but I needed more time. There was one chica who looked like Lauren Sanchez the newscaster from L.A.. She was busy, I will have to try another time. After a drink I went over to h/k..
I was pretty satisfied after trop., so my plan was to relax and if something came up, I would do it, if not, time to go home.
I did not go to a/b but here at h/k, it was pretty crowded. I couldn't find a seat. Granted, the 2nd and 3rd floor of the old wing was closed, the only seats open, were in the old wing.
I was a little tired so I sat at one of the open booths in the old wing. At the time there was no dancers there, only in the new wing. There were about 10 chicas in the old wing, but nothing fancied me.
During the course of two drinks a few chicas came over for a $1 lap dance. These were cool and were getting me in the mood again. About 40 minutes after I sat down, finally some chicas started to dance on the long bar table. 10 minutes after that, they started the whip cream show. Just think minutes ago nothing, now everybody starts to find seats for the show.
While the show was going on, a chica dancing on the long bar caught my eye. I went over and placed a couple of dollar bills on her. I asked her name, she said it was Ruby. At least that is what it sounded like.
I went back to my seat to finish watching the show. About 10 minutes later, Ruby taps me on the shoulder and asked if it was okay to keep me company.
No problem, she sat by me and I bought her a drink. What was great, she didn't gulp the beer down. All the while she is cuddling next to me acting like my girlfriend. We just shoot the breeze while she is slowing caressing my thighs.
At some point, I ask her a question. She couldn't hear so she asked me to repeat. When she asked, her face was so close to mine, I dove in for a kiss. She responded very appreciately. From then on, it was like one big make out session in the booth.
I know for some it's not a big deal to make out in the booths, but I know many chica who do not want to make out in the bar area. Unlike Brazil where they love to make out in the bar area, tj is a little different. Even in the past with my atf, she wouldn't make out in the bar area. Only in the comforts of a hotel room.
Thing were going so good, I bought her a second drink and I hardly ever do that. That's how good she could kiss and how much fun she was.
Finally, after the second drink, we headed upstairs to the hotel. Again, I won't bore you with details but unlike the trop girl who almost was gfe, this chica was gfe and more.
Again, I'am not 100% positive her name was Ruby, but it sounded like that. She doesn't fit my idea chica. She is pretty, thin, and short. I usually like the taller ones. She also had a piercing near the corner of her mouth. She is from Veracruz and says she is 22 years old.
Ymmv, but I highly recommend this chica. At least if you are into gfe.
When we got back into the club, I notice they opened up the 2nd and 3rd floor of the old wing. Like they say, timing is everything.
I almost forgot, I paid mx$600.00. Again,the best part, she never asked for the money upfront.
Until the next time.
[QUOTE=Quackup]When we got back into the club, I notice they opened up the 2nd and 3rd floor of the old wing. Like they say, timing is everything.
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Last time I went, the trhid floor was blocked off completely with furniture as if they where using the place as storage. Pretty tacky looking.
FJL, the last time you went to TJ the USD was 1 to 11 MXN.
Sitting in LA and playing vicarious Pope/Oprah doesn't help your credibility.
Dermdoc has you pegged, momser.
I was there last week. When's the last time you went? Btw, why do you kiss spermdoc's ass, he treated your herpes for free?
For the record, before this turns into a huge flame war, let me remind you that you started this...
So was I, odd we didn't meet. All I see is comments on other mongers' posts.
Try facebook or twitter to make friends, this is a forum for mongers.
[QUOTE=Efjayel]
For the record, before this turns into a huge flame war, let me remind you that you started this...[/QUOTE]
The best way to prevent a flame war is not to fan it.
Your past posts, information and TRs speak to your credibility. The more you ignore it the sooner it will go away.
It may mean taking more than one for the team, but the team knows you’re up for it.
[QUOTE=Dornyone]So was I, odd we didn't meet. All I see is comments on other mongers' posts.
Try facebook or twitter to make friends, this is a forum for mongers.[/QUOTE]
I mentioned before, that I've gotten tired of writing huge reports after every trip so instead of being Mr. story teller I've reduced my stories to intelligence reports relating to whatever the current conversation is about. Basically I give out small bits of my reports from time to time. No I'm not here to make friends, just to share information. I hate Facebook and Myspace, so I never visit those sites. I view it as forum of teens, idiots and hipsters. Or more like teen idiot hipsters. Regardless, I avoid those sites like the plauge.
[QUOTE=Surfnk9]The best way to prevent a flame war is not to fan it.
Your past posts, information and TRs speak to your credibility. The more you ignore it the sooner it will go away.
It may mean taking more than one for the team, but the team knows you’re up for it.[/QUOTE]
All right, I won't continue anything on behalf of Surfnk9. Although everytime I read your name I picture a K9 surfing a wave wearing 80's style shorts and sunglasses.
[QUOTE=Efjayel]
....everytime I read your name I picture a K9 surfing a wave wearing 80's style shorts and sunglasses.[/QUOTE]
Dam you’re good…. How’d you know?
The hardest part is finding neon boardshorts these days.
[QUOTE=Efjayel]Last time I went, the trhid floor was blocked off completely with furniture as if they where using the place as storage. Pretty tacky looking.[/QUOTE]
It looks like a high end sport bar remodel with lots of fixtures in place . Two exits, one more than AD.
A very aggressive marketing program on Ldrinks, possible high profit sharing.
Great sport bar but no AB.
Yeah I like the new exit for HK since I can use it as a short cut to reach the alley.
[QUOTE=Efjayel]Yeah I like the new exit for HK since I can use it as a short cut to reach the alley.[/QUOTE]Redundant safety exit, if needed.
Went back to HK Friday night. Wow. There's lots of new talent. I was looking for the same girl from a couple weeks before, Valeria(or Valerie, my hearing sucks), but I knew I was too late, since she worked till 6pm, and it was now 6:30pm. But no? I never thought about it, but Mexico doesn't observe DST- so their time is now 1 hour earlier than ours. It was only 5:30pm. After exploring the bar, I sat down at the second stage, in what is now the old half. There was her younger sister, Roxana(or Rosana),right in front of me. I didn't recognize her, but she recognized me. So. We went to the new side of the club, to the little bar upstairs- usually unoccupied.
Long story short: Valeria, Roxana's older 'sister,'(whatever, at this point I'll just concede they could be) joined us, coincidentally right after Roxana asked me why I didn't want both of them last time. I guess she told the waiter to have her sister join the fun. After one drink, I decide its finally time to try the age old fantasy, 2 on 1. ... It was worth doing- once, anyways- for the experience. Scratch another 'must do before I die' off my list. But I don't believe I'll do it again. At least not in a P4P situation. Really, it was distracting, trying to pay attention to 2 mouths, 4 hands, you get the idea. In a spontaneous situation, sure, but not in 30 minutes.
Quick sidebar: The freaking hotel clerk insisted that 2 girls is 11 bucks X 2. I was pissed, because I thought I'd read that the charge for the room is the charge for the room. 2 chicas, still 11 bucks. I argued, and before I knew it, I was destroying the mood, and perhaps embarrassing the girls. So I relented and paid 22 + 1 for the extra towels. Anyone have some more info on that?
Anyway, they kept themselves very separate. One girl on my crotch, the other making out with me, then trade. No simultaneous 'share and share alike,' reinforcing the idea that they probably are related. Pretty soon I realize that Roxana is more mechanical with me. Not bad, just mechanical. Valeria was more sensuous, but not like our time before. Apparently, she was more guarded about what she would do in front of her sister. After our time was almost up, I figured, "hey, this is my money, I'll spend it as I please!" It had to be obvious that I was paying more attention to what Valeria was doing, and Roxana was becoming more of a distraction for me, whispering in my ear, 'come on, baby, cum,' over and over as I fucked Valeria- It seemed pretty clear to me that Valeria was having as much fun as I was. So I politely asked Roxana if she could shower while Valeria and I finished. She wasn't too offended, but she was offended. Ah, well. As she left, I whispered, [i]'me gusta usted mejor,'[/i] in Valeria's ear. She loved that.
With the door to the bathroom shut, Valeria's tongue came out to play, and I lasted all of... 3 more minutes. Hey, I just spent 20 minutes with 2 chicks! Afterwords, I apologized to both of them, saying that I found it difficult to divide my attention, and that I felt awkward. This seemed to make things a little better. Paid 60 each to the girls, and they seemed happy with that. But Roxana remained well up in front of Valeria and I on our way out of the hotel :) I couldn't help but laugh.
During both visits with Valeria, she kept talking about their home town, San Filipe, I think. Apparently, Roxana works there, too, sometimes, but not Valeria. And she kept talking about how I really needed to go there, because its just sooo much more beautiful than TJ. And she mentioned that someone like me would [i]probably[/i] be happier with only ONE partner. lol. She's [i]probably[/i] right.
When I return, I will look for Valeria again. Its tough to find a girl that's a good fit, as they would say, [i]simpatico.[/i] ([i]la chemica![/i]) Anyway, if it ain't broke, don't fix it. On my way out, I spied a hot little number in front of the hotel on the NW corner of Callejon Articulo and Constitucion, next to the magazine stand. Normally, the chicas in this section of the zona look pretty beat up, compared to the girls in the ally. But she was young and thin, flat tummy, and quite pretty. I asked her how much she needed. She told me 200 pesos or 20 bucks. But I was already late, so I passed. And THAT is my only regret from Friday night. Next time.
As to my second love, LCDH is always on my agenda when I go to TJ. Didn't waste a cigar in the club, but I did enjoy one for the ride home. For those in the know, it was a EL PSD No. 5. Short, strong, and ridiculously tasty. [color=blue] <here comes the pun> [/color] Just like Valeria.
keep it cheap
NoZ
[QUOTE=No Zanax]
Quick sidebar: The freaking hotel clerk insisted that 2 girls is 11 bucks X 2. I was pissed, because I thought I'd read that the charge for the room is the charge for the room. 2 chicas, still 11 bucks. I argued, and before I knew it, I was destroying the mood, and perhaps embarrassing the girls. So I relented and paid 22 + 1 for the extra towels. Anyone have some more info on that?
[/QUOTE]
Unfortunately the price for the room does double if you go with 2 chicas.
[QUOTE=No Zanax]On my way out, I spied a hot little number in front of the hotel on the NW corner of Callejon Articulo and Constitucion, next to the magazine stand.[/QUOTE]
Don't you just hate it how when you finish a session and on your way out you see all these other hot chicas and you think to yourself, "I should have picked her instead?"
[QUOTE=No Zanax] I asked her how much she needed. She told me 200 pesos or 20 bucks. [/QUOTE]This is a prime example of why to convert to MXN Pesos.
Using US currency, she wanted $20 USD
Using Pesos she wanted 200 which is about 14.78 USD.
Saving more than $5 USD on just that one instance.
The higher the amount the more potential saving you can see.
[QUOTE=Efjayel]Don't you just hate it how when you finish a session and on your way out you see all these other hot chicas and you think to yourself, "I should have picked her instead?"[/QUOTE]
That happens to me a lot because I tend to go in the evening before all the hotties have arrived.
[QUOTE=Sgt Perv]This is a prime example of why to convert to MXN Pesos.
Using US currency, she wanted $20 USD
Using Pesos she wanted 200 which is about 14.78 USD.
Saving more than $5 USD on just that one instance.
The higher the amount the more potential saving you can see.[/QUOTE]Monday Lunch Time:
AD needs beauty & HK just a sport bar. Good music and large screens, very lame show for lunch - more staff than crowd.
Bar drinks in dollars or MXN - rest in US dollars
[QUOTE=Sound7]Monday Lunch Time:
AD needs beauty & HK just a sport bar. Good music and large screens, very lame show for lunch - more staff than crowd.
Bar drinks in dollars or MXN - rest in US dollars[/QUOTE]I have not spent USD in TJ Mexico since my first visit in 2000 and then only the first day.
At that time, it was more to blend into the culture than to save money.
Now it is also to save some money.
I have NEVER EVER been told no to my pesos in the baja area.
Bargaining does vary but never no to pesos.
No chica in the zona has ever refused pesos from me.
I have never heard of any other monger being refused his pesos.
Yes bars do prefer USD for higher profit.
I have right now about 800 pesos from my last trip because I know I am going back. If not , which would suck, I can always exchange them in the US at almost any large city currency exchange.
Sound7 seems to like promoting the spending of USD, not sure if he just does not know or has some type of financial interest in the zona or looking to argue.
[QUOTE=JPF]Unfortunately the price for the room does double if you go with 2 chicas.[/QUOTE]Yep, I had the very good fortune a couple years back to take stunning twins up. The time of my life. I too thought WTF when asked for double the room fee, but I wasn't going to let anything get in the way of this double header.
I'm on my way down to TJ at the moment, in fact. I've given up on finding the twins again, but hoping to find provider supreme Salma for my first blast, then something sweet and hot for the 2nd round tonight. Wish me luck.
[QUOTE=Lulu Pussy]Yep, I had the very good fortune a couple years back to take stunning twins up. The time of my life. I too thought WTF when asked for double the room fee, but I wasn't going to let anything get in the way of this double header.
I'm on my way down to TJ at the moment, in fact. I've given up on finding the twins again, but hoping to find provider supreme Salma for my first blast, then something sweet and hot for the 2nd round tonight. Wish me luck.[/QUOTE]
Lulu- Ah yes the twins
On my first trip to T.J. I was with a seasoned monger and at one point we found ourselves at La Tropa. There was an older waiter there who offered us young twins. He brought them over and at first I didn’t believe it. They were really really hot. But I was overwhelmed with the whole TJ experience since we had already been in every bar scouting the scene. Plus the guy was on the creepy side. So we declined.
It’s good to see someone has fond memories of the hot twins.
Bythe way, good luck
[QUOTE=Lulu Pussy]Yep, I had the very good fortune a couple years back to take stunning twins up. The time of my life. I too thought WTF when asked for double the room fee, but I wasn't going to let anything get in the way of this double header.
I'm on my way down to TJ at the moment, in fact. I've given up on finding the twins again, but hoping to find provider supreme Salma for my first blast, then something sweet and hot for the 2nd round tonight. Wish me luck.[/QUOTE]AB hotel does not charge for the girls if you are staying there. If you are taking two girls from AB, you may be better off renting the room. One big advantage in renting is: you do not have to worry about the knock.
When you use the Peso, you should just sound very confident about the calculation you have offered to the girl. They try to argue a little but always back off and accept your calculations. When rate was 1.4, Cascades was charging 360 pesos for the room or $ 30.
[QUOTE=Champak Lal]AB hotel does not charge for the girls if you are staying there. If you are taking two girls from AB, you may be better off renting the room.[/QUOTE]
I've heard otherwise from seasoned mongers. Something about getting charged an extra $5 dolllar fee for each girl you take, something like that. But if your experience was different then please enlighten us on what you did.
[QUOTE=Sgt Perv]I have not spent USD in TJ Mexico since my first visit in 2000 and then only the first day.
At that time, it was more to blend into the culture than to save money.
Now it is also to save some money.
I have NEVER EVER been told no to my pesos in the baja area.
Bargaining does vary but never no to pesos.
No chica in the zona has ever refused pesos from me.
I have never heard of any other monger being refused his pesos.
Yes bars do prefer USD for higher profit.
I have right now about 800 pesos from my last trip because I know I am going back. If not , which would suck, I can always exchange them in the US at almost any large city currency exchange.
Sound7 seems to like promoting the spending of USD, not sure if he just does not know or has some type of financial interest in the zona or looking to argue.[/QUOTE]Recently a shared ride fare was 23 pesos and I offered two dollars. The driver refused and asked for one more dollar. A total request for three dollars. I paid him in pesos 23. A dollar is more than 3 pesos.
Drinks : Peso or dollars. (AB/HK)
Transportation: Peso or dollars
AB/HK 4 Others: Mexican Pesos declined
Dollar Peso Variation yr 2008 - 2009
$1 (USD) 10 - 14.50 pesos
$50 --- 500 to 725 pesos
$100 -- 1000 to 1450 pesos
[QUOTE=Champak Lal]AB hotel does not charge for the girls if you are staying there. If you are taking two girls from AB, you may be better off renting the room. One big advantage in renting is: you do not have to worry about the knock.[/QUOTE]AB Room Rate? Currently at $12 USD (pesos ??) for 1/2 hour
1 hr $24 USD (pesos ??) ??
24 hrs ... $?? USD (pesos ??)
An option to consider.
I just back from Tijuana and want you guys know wach out the server at the bar if they find out you are drunk they charge you duble.
[QUOTE=Sgt Perv]I have not spent USD in TJ Mexico since my first visit in 2000 and then only the first day.
At that time, it was more to blend into the culture than to save money.
Now it is also to save some money.
I have NEVER EVER been told no to my pesos in the baja area.
Bargaining does vary but never no to pesos.
No chica in the zona has ever refused pesos from me.
I have never heard of any other monger being refused his pesos.
Yes bars do prefer USD for higher profit.
I have right now about 800 pesos from my last trip because I know I am going back. If not , which would suck, I can always exchange them in the US at almost any large city currency exchange.
Sound7 seems to like promoting the spending of USD, not sure if he just does not know or has some type of financial interest in the zona or looking to argue.[/QUOTE]If AD/HK other payments all in peso, than 4 for the price of 3 ??
Cost saving 33%
[QUOTE=Fredla4947]I just back from Tijuana and want you guys know wach out the server at the bar if they find out you are drunk they charge you duble.[/QUOTE]
Sounds like you're still drunk. :D
[QUOTE=Sound7]AB Room Rate? Currently at $12 USD (pesos? ) for 1/2 hour 1 hr $24 USD (pesos? )?
24 hrs. $? USD (pesos? )
An option to consider.[/QUOTE]Room rate was $ 35 (I believe) when I went last.
[QUOTE=Efjayel]I've heard otherwise from seasoned mongers. Something about getting charged an extra $5 dolllar fee for each girl you take, something like that. But if your experience was different then please enlighten us on what you did.[/QUOTE]I did not pay any money for any AB girls I took. I did not take two girls at a time though. Cascades charges $ 5 for a SG after the limit of 1 (or 3) girls, based upon what you paid upfront. ($30 allows 1 girl, $ 45 allows 3 girls)
If you walk from HK to AB and keep going straight, after crossing the street there is a conversion place after a few shops. Their rate was slightly better than the place next to the police station. Moreover it was open before the other place. There were many locals on line (some of them seemed like girls from bars). That also made me believe that their rates may be better.
[QUOTE=Fredla4947]I just back from Tijuana and want you guys know wach out the server at the bar if they find out you are drunk they charge you duble.[/QUOTE]I hope it did not break your bank.
Good you made it out and home.
Salute
[QUOTE=Champak Lal]Room rate was $ 35 (I believe) when I went last.[/QUOTE] Where you able to get some rest or was the noise an issue?
[QUOTE=Sound7]Where you able to get some rest or was the noise an issue?[/QUOTE]The day I was there it was not that noisy.
[QUOTE=Sound7]Recently a shared ride fare was 23 pesos and I offered two dollars. The driver refused and asked for one more dollar. A total request for three dollars. I paid him in pesos 23. A dollar is more than 3 pesos.
Drinks : Peso or dollars. (AB/HK)
Transportation: Peso or dollars
AB/HK 4 Others: Mexican Pesos declined
Dollar Peso Variation yr 2008 - 2009
$1 (USD) 10 - 14.50 pesos
$50 --- 500 to 725 pesos
$100 -- 1000 to 1450 pesos[/QUOTE]
You say above "Drinks : Peso or dollars. (AB/HK)" then you say "AB/HK 4 Others: Mexican Pesos declined."
Please clarify. Did AB refuse to accept Pesos?
Country John
[QUOTE=Sound7]Recently a shared ride fare was 23 pesos and I offered two dollars. The driver refused and asked for one more dollar. A total request for three dollars. I paid him in pesos 23. A dollar is more than 3 pesos.
Drinks : Peso or dollars. (AB/HK)
Transportation: Peso or dollars
AB/HK 4 Others: Mexican Pesos declined
Dollar Peso Variation yr 2008 - 2009
$1 (USD) 10 - 14.50 pesos
$50 --- 500 to 725 pesos
$100 -- 1000 to 1450 pesos[/QUOTE]Ab has a sign that says MX/USD 13:1 recently posted. It used to say 11:1. (ie. 13 pesos to 1 USD)
-In San Ysidro its about 13. 5:1 at the money exchange before you cross over.
-AD/HK I noticed on their prices they increased the price of beer in pesos and kept it the same in USD $3. 50/$3. 00. I also noticed mid week HK beers are only $3. So changing your money is not saving you on booze.
-Finally I don't want to go home with a pocket full of pesos to save $10.
So maybe bargaining with a SW in pesos could save you 20-30% but from my experience AD/HK top tier girls all want at least $50 USD regardless of exchange rate especially if you don't look or speak the spanish.
[QUOTE=Sdguy777]Ab has a sign that says MX/USD 13:1 recently posted. It used to say 11:1. (ie. 13 pesos to 1 USD)
-In San Ysidro its about 13. 5:1 at the money exchange before you cross over.
-AD/HK I noticed on their prices they increased the price of beer in pesos and kept it the same in USD $3. 50/$3. 00. I also noticed mid week HK beers are only $3. So changing your money is not saving you on booze.
-Finally I don't want to go home with a pocket full of pesos to save $10.
So maybe bargaining with a SW in pesos could save you 20-30% but from my experience AD/HK top tier girls all want at least $50 USD regardless of exchange rate especially if you don't look or speak the spanish.[/QUOTE]Economic deflation TJ:
1USD = 13 peso (AD)
TJ Avenue Revolution Massage: 2X1
Tuesday & Wednesday
AB/HK Hotie: Dollar transaction
Pesos for cultural exchange and charity.
I noticed that seasoned vets like to drink at La Valentina because of the 2 for 1 beer deals. As my friends pointed out there are hidden gems at the lesser known bars. Can someone tell me the best strip bars on the otay mesa side? My friend took me to one and the girls were only $40.
This is by far my favorite bar in TJ. I went here four nights in a row. Parked in San Yisidro, walked across and took a cab here. They charge $3 cover at the door on the weekends. They give you a beer can which you can exchange for a bottle of water at the bar (I am not much into Mexican beer).
Pros: IMHO, the chicas are better looking at HK. Best among TJ bars for quality.
Quantity and choice rivals that of Adelitas.
Quality of the music is better.
I enjoy the multiple stage dances here. Unlike at Adelitas they are not dancing in the pit which is hard to watch unless you are siting next to the pit.
The DJ is less annoying.
The toilets are cleaner
The rooms are nicer.
They have the booth option inside the club for a quick sample ($20/song)*
VIP area on the top floor is an option ($70 which includes 10 drinks)*
Cons: The waiters are crazy annoying pushing drinks (this is a nuisance in all the TJ clubs)
The music is too loud.
I had over 8 encounters in 4 nights. I need to go now but will post the highlights soon.
* more on these two later.
-Vitrea
[QUOTE=Cool]I noticed that seasoned vets like to drink at La Valentina because of the 2 for 1 beer deals. As my friends pointed out there are hidden gems at the lesser known bars. Can someone tell me the best strip bars on the otay mesa side? My friend took me to one and the girls were only $40.[/QUOTE]
What is the name of the bar your friend took you to? Are the girls any good?
I believe that some (not all) of the hot looking chicks that dance on the stage in HK are paid extra by the management. They are less motivated to to go to the room. Couple of them ignored me when I called them over and couple of them wanted $80 so I ignored them. The names America (petite tight body) Sola (tall one gorgeous figure) come to mind.
Anyone else notice this?
[QUOTE=Vitrea]I believe that some (not all) of the hot looking chicks that dance on the stage in HK are paid extra by the management. They are less motivated to to go to the room. Couple of them ignored me when I called them over and couple of them wanted $80 so I ignored them. The names America (petite tight body) Sola (tall one gorgeous figure) come to mind.
Anyone else notice this?[/QUOTE]Is Sola a tall blond with very long legs and small breasts?
[QUOTE=Jackie888]Is Sola a tall blond with very long legs and small breasts?[/QUOTE]
I don't think so. She is tall, brunette, pretty face, rarely smiles and is quite reserved. I am pretty sure the one I am talking about has at least B cups. Hair color is of course less reliable.
This comment is for One wing low: Funny thing happened to me with Sola. The first day I saw her, she said $80 to go to the room. Two days later she said she does not go to the room.
BTW, If you want to know who goes to the room or who does not, talk to the gal monitoring the private lap dance booths on the second floor, next to the balcony. She does not speak good english. If your Spanish is decent and if you spare her a few dollars, she is full of information. The waiters are useless.
One of the smarter things I've done lately was to get a room across (almost caddycorner) the road from HK to sleep off before the drive back to OC. I had the room key with me in HK and after watching a tall chica with decent legs dance for a while I decided to ask for arriba. I had already bought her 2 fichas so I was surprised when she wouldn't budge from $70. I eventually said OK but "in my room". The floor manager (I think) nixed this so I said forget it.
She has PERLA tattooed on her belly and a grim reaper on her ankle, oh and as I think back, a snaggle toothed grin.
Ended up tagging a hottie from AD's and calling it a day.
[QUOTE=Dornyone]One of the smarter things I've done lately was to get a room across (almost caddycorner) the road from HK to sleep off before the drive back to OC. [/QUOTE]That drive back can be murderous! Just getting across the border can ruin you. I have had more than one experience where I was falling asleep in the line, and waking up when the person behind me lays on the horn, then fall asleep again.
It is so much smarter to sleep it off a little. I do have to admit, I love the coffee guys in the border line, they help too.
PD, I wasn't even driving back! The car was in the $8 lot but didn't need to be out before 10 am.
The surly jerk at ICE looked at my US pp and said (it was 03:30) "where are you going"...(sigh) "home"
"what are you bringing back?"..... "nothing I hope".
Asshole.
Even with the sleepover, that drive sucks......
Can someone please describe the best way to approach a Chica at HK? I am a long time AB client, but when I walk into HK I see a different atmosphere. Is it the same as AB in that one just talks to one of the chicas who are not already with someone?
[QUOTE=Dornyone]Even with the sleepover, that drive sucks.[/QUOTE]If it weren't for the border, I don't think it would be as bad, as long as you are making the drive late at night, then you fly. I lived in LA for a while, the valley at that, and I always forgot how long it was going to take me to get home. I'd be surfing south of Ensenada, then stop in Ensenada for some beers and some chicks, thinking that I'd be back to LA in four hours. Well, I always forgot what a nightmare the line is on Sundays.
Getting across the border can be like getting to OC/LA. You need to be well prepared and plan it out. The quickest and most hassle-free way is in the middle of the night. Whether I am driving to Venice, or just trying to cross San Ysidro, I think that midnight (or later) is the best time to do either.
The last time I went to HK, my wingman and I left about 2:30am, headed strait for the border and had 5 cars in front of us. I have not walked across in a while, but I have been meaning to do so, just to know what is going on.
[QUOTE=Party God]Can someone please describe the best way to approach a Chica at HK? I am a long time AB client, but when I walk into HK I see a different atmosphere. Is it the same as AB in that one just talks to one of the chicas who are not already with someone?[/QUOTE]This is where you use the ficha. I would recommend that you catch a girls eye, smile, and say, "te puedo invitar a una cerveza? " [Can I invite (buy) you to a beer? ]
I recommend that you try it in Spanish, but it really doesn't matter, they will understand you. Chat her up for a bit, get a feel for what she is going to be like in bed, and then see what you can get her upstairs for ($$).
I think of that first ficha as a timer (like sands through the hour glass) because you are trying to figure out if she is going to be any fun or not, before the pinche waiter pressures you to buy a second, or you decide to look around some more.
The difference that I see between AB and HK, is that AB has some aggressive ass cougars that are well past retirement age.
[QUOTE=Party God]Can someone please describe the best way to approach a Chica at HK? I am a long time AB client, but when I walk into HK I see a different atmosphere. Is it the same as AB in that one just talks to one of the chicas who are not already with someone?[/QUOTE]
I'm also a long time AB visitor and never been in HK bar i was wonder the same thing, I know there's a difference in chica fees compare to AB $70-up and some go with you to the room and some don't, what about that $20 dance is that just a lap dance?
Is there anyway to know who's a provider and who's just a dancer?
[QUOTE=Party God]Can someone please describe the best way to approach a Chica at HK? I am a long time AB client, but when I walk into HK I see a different atmosphere. Is it the same as AB in that one just talks to one of the chicas who are not already with someone? [/QUOTE]Actually, you can generally walk right up to them, wrap your arms around their butt and touch the goodies for a buck. Half of the time you don't even need a buck. Or if you're feeling mischievious, put a buck in your mouth and offer to tip it in her panties. Don't worry, you won't be turned down. Or you can ask one of the waiters to bring one over.
The gals over at HK aren't as inhibited as the gals at Adelitas. Funny but I often forget that I'm at Adelitas and often come on a little too strong. The irony.
[QUOTE=HornyTraveler]I'm also a long time AB visitor and never been in HK bar I was wonder the same thing, I know there's a difference in chica fees compare to AB $70-up and some go with you to the room and some don't, what about that $20 dance is that just a lap dance?
Is there anyway to know who's a provider and who's just a dancer? [/QUOTE]With one hand, put your index finger to your thumb to make a hole. With the other hand, use the index finger and slide it in and out of the hole. Show this to a gal and smile.
Just kidding.
They all go up. The difference is that they generally make ok money from dancing and drinking so they're more choosy. I notice one girl making a load of money just walking to all the guys and asking for a dollar. For some reason, they all gave her a dollar. Smart girl.
[QUOTE=Vitrea]What is the name of the bar your friend took you to? Are the girls any good?[/QUOTE]
On the Otay side stay away from the Maruba. They pester you to buy beer and chica fechas. I passed by the club today but can't remember the name. It may be the closest club to garita de otay.
[QUOTE=HornyTraveler]I'm also a long time AB visitor and never been in HK bar i was wonder the same thing, I know there's a difference in chica fees compare to AB $70-up and some go with you to the room and some don't, what about that $20 dance is that just a lap dance?
Is there anyway to know who's a provider and who's just a dancer?[/QUOTE]
Lap dance is not a deal unless she allows you to finger her and make out with her and let your hands fully roam. Some of the older (30+ years) dancers will give you a bj for $40 in the booth.
[QUOTE=Pablito Diablito]This is where you use the ficha. I would recommend that you catch a girls eye, smile, and say, "te puedo invitar a una cerveza? " [Can I invite (buy) you to a beer? ]
I recommend that you try it in Spanish, but it really doesn't matter, they will understand you. Chat her up for a bit, get a feel for what she is going to be like in bed, and then see what you can get her upstairs for ($$).
I think of that first ficha as a timer (like sands through the hour glass) because you are trying to figure out if she is going to be any fun or not, before the pinche waiter pressures you to buy a second, or you decide to look around some more.
The difference that I see between AB and HK, is that AB has some aggressive ass cougars that are well past retirement age.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the advice sir!
I will try it next time.
The difference with HK and AB is the main reason why I usually end up in AB. I'm no Mr. Smooth who can go up to any girl and start a chat. I've done it but not too frequently. The women in AB are more aggressive than most other bars and being a seasoned vet of this bar I've come accustomed to this. Any girl I like I simply have to make eye contact and before I know it, they're already sitting next to me rubbing my Mr. Happy.
In HK it's more like a regular pick up bar in that you have to make the move. The few women I have been with from HK was because they came up to me those are rare. At least for me. To make it easier, if you see a girl you like and she's alone you can get the waiter to bring her over. It helps if you know spanish cause you don't want to confuse the waiter and have him bring over the wrong girl and the face the awkwardness of turning that girl away.
[QUOTE=Party God]Can someone please describe the best way to approach a Chica at HK? I am a long time AB client, but when I walk into HK I see a different atmosphere. Is it the same as AB in that one just talks to one of the chicas who are not already with someone? [/QUOTE]Are you serious about asking how to get laid in a "house of I'll repute"?
Just ask for what you want!
Be polite but just ask. There are no virgins there. They all know basically why you are in the place. They are there to make money.
It is "temporarily" your money so at least attempt to get who/what you want personally.
It would be very hard to embarrass the chicas, considering where you are and everyone knows the score, just be polite.
There are aggressive chicas and non aggressive chicas in most the clubs.
How the chicas will act towards you will always vary for anybody.
I have had night and day differences from chicas from one night to the next.
One chica would who I wanted would not accept a drink with me but when I came back a couple hours later she almost broke her leg getting to me.
Women!
Some of it will have to do with the chica herself at the time and some of it will have to do with how you are perceived by them at that time.
It is very impolite to approach a chica who is obviously with someone else anywhere. If the chica you desire is "temporarily occupied", you can either wait and hope she does not get scooped up before she gets to you or tell the waiter that you are interested in the chica (recommended). Waiters are more than "mobile bartenders" so utilize their assets.
Why be shy? Be polite!
[QUOTE=HornyTraveler]I'm also a long time AB visitor and never been in HK bar i was wonder the same thing, I know there's a difference in chica fees compare to AB $70-up and some go with you to the room and some don't, what about that $20 dance is that just a lap dance?
Is there anyway to know who's a provider and who's just a dancer?[/QUOTE]
IMHO the $20 dances are a waste of money, but to each his own.
DO NOT even THINK about forking over $70 - $80 or more to any HK chica. Lots of the night shift will feed you the line that they're more expensive. Don't buy into it. It's a buyer's market now.
As far as finding out who goes up, just ask.
[QUOTE=Party God]Can someone please describe the best way to approach a Chica at HK? I am a long time AB client, but when I walk into HK I see a different atmosphere. Is it the same as AB in that one just talks to one of the chicas who are not already with someone?[/QUOTE]
If they're dancing, tip 'em then offer to buy 'em a drink. If they "like" you, they'll stop and sit with you. If they're not dancing, chat for a minute, offer a drink, and chat some more. Good way to practice your Spanish.
AB is way too gringo-ified. I really can't think of any Latin American bars I've been to where the girls come up to you the way they do in AB. AFAIK, it's really not considered "proper" (for lack of a better term) for the girl to throw themselves at the guy. There are certainly exceptions.
As difficult as it may seem to go up to a girl sitting at the bar in LC, for instance, it's really noting like the States. It's more like shooting fish in a barrel. The girls in the Zona are hoping you'll pick them out of the crowd. In the States, they're looking for reasons to say no, preferably with an ego-crushing insult! :)
Good advice in this thread from several guys. I'll throw my oar in too.
The Adelita Bar has reduced the transaction to its essentials. Often the girl propositions you, and even if they wait to be approached striking a deal is simple. You sidle up next to a girl, exchange a few pleasantries, and 30 seconds later you're headed upstairs. I realize lots of guys deride the Adelita Bar as a fuck factory. But on some of my Zona Norte trips that's exactly what I want and it turns me on to know that five minutes after I finish my beer some hotty is going to be sucking my hard dick. As Erica Jong explained, the zipless fuck is the purest thing there is.
At the Hong Kong Club there's more foreplay. And usually that involves spending some time with the girl. There are evenings when I'm in the mood for that, and I enjoy tipping the girls, flirting a little bit, and sitting down for a drink. Cuddling in a booth adds a little girlfriend vibe, with the added benefit of mutual touching that's almost certain to be hotter than the last time you were out with your sweetie in a public place.
When I want to go upstairs with one of the Hong Kong girls I'm careful not to get ficha fucked. I'm happy to buy her a couple of drinks. But we need to reach what diplomats call an agreement in principle before I'll buy any more. If she's not willing to go up, the waiter gets waived off on his next pass. Ditto if she says OK, but I'm getting the starfish vibe from her.
Sometimes, however, I'm just tuning up and it doesn't matter if the girl is willing to go upstairs. If she's sweet I'm happy to drink and cuddle in the booth. If she's nasty I'll pay for a private dance. I'm usually able to negotiate two songs for $20, and if it's slow some girls will dance three. I'm not trying to get off in the booth. I'm just trying to get as much mileage as I can, which can be fun. Sometimes the girl does such a good job on the privado that I'll negotiate for a session to take place later.
Bunky
Thanks for ol the info!
BTW, maybe someone can explain the private booth dance deal a little better?
Is it worth the $20, is every girl the same way in the private dance I mean can you finger, kiss, bite, chew it up, slap it etc, etc.. for a 20? :D
Now that I remember I can get a SG for the same 20 bucks?
It sounds to me like HK is overpriced Am I wrong?
I guess AB is a different animal, I had girls come to me and straight out ask me if I want to F..K, that's too much to rough for my taste, I like the soft feminine approach and say hi first what's your name and the rest of the blah, blah B.S.
I guess AB is more like a glory hole!
[QUOTE=HornyTraveler]Is there anyway to know who's a provider and who's just a dancer? [/QUOTE]The girls wearing the sashes that say "Edecan" (model) are still in training. They have a tendency to be more selective, and may say they don't do upstairs, but I think the common consensus is that they do go up stairs, it is just going to cost you more, in time and money. These are the girls that you do not want to directly approach, and give them a low ball offer for sex, without warming them up first, or at least getting them drunk.
Just remember that each girl's situation is different. Some really need the money, some just want to party, and some are really fiending to get high. You need to get a read for what each chick is about, and what her situation is like that day.
[QUOTE=HornyTraveler]I guess AB is a different animal, I had girls come to me and straight out ask me if I want to F..K, that's too much to rough for my taste, I like the soft feminine approach and say hi first what's your name and the rest of the blah, blah B.S..[/QUOTE]That is so sweet ,you're such a romantic :D
[QUOTE=HornyTraveler]Now that I remember I can get a SG for the same 20 bucks?
It sounds to me like HK is overpriced Am I wrong?[/QUOTE]As far as getting a lap dance verses a SG, I agree with you.
Some people want the foreplay though.
[QUOTE=Sgt Perv]That is so sweet ,you're such a romantic :D
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I have to admit I am a gentleman and I like to be nice to the girls sometimes the trick works and I get specials or extras I say making love not sex :D
[QUOTE=Bunky]When I want to go upstairs with one of the Hong Kong girls I'm careful not to get ficha fucked. I'm happy to buy her a couple of drinks. But we need to reach what diplomats call an agreement in principle before I'll buy any more. If she's not willing to go up, the waiter gets waived off on his next pass. Ditto if she says OK, but I'm getting the starfish vibe from her.
Bunky[/QUOTE]Can't agree more. I buy the first drink of their choice at AD, CC or HK, the second one if its within a 1/2 hour of the first is a beer (cerveza solamente). Lets see her pound that second drink just as fast.
[QUOTE=Pablito Diablito]The girls wearing the sashes that say "Edecan" (model) are still in training. They have a tendency to be more selective, and may say they don't do upstairs, but I think the common consensus is that they do go up stairs, it is just going to cost you more, in time and money. These are the girls that you do not want to directly approach, and give them a low ball offer for sex, without warming them up first, or at least getting them drunk.
Just remember that each girl's situation is different. Some really need the money, some just want to party, and some are really fiending to get high. You need to get a read for what each chick is about, and what her situation is like that day.[/QUOTE]From my experience, the girls in sashes are genuinely surprised when you start negotiating.
I don't think they're used to it.
As long as it is a trick.
[QUOTE=Sgt Perv]As long as it is a trick.[/QUOTE]
That's not a bad idea, girls really fall for that especially if it's cash inside!
Had you ever saw that guy selling flowers and teddy bears in AB?
Sometimes when your nice to them they don't act so mechanical, but of course they are just working nothing more.
[QUOTE=HornyTraveler]That's not a bad idea, girls really fall for that especially if it's cash inside! [/QUOTE]The only thing I would put in the card would be a couple American ribbed condoms and then politely offer her assistance in using her gift. I totally believe in offering small tokens but that teddy bear and flower guys can keep their products.
Got to be somewhat original, not obviously lazy, in your tokens.
Just for example, my held secret, at flea markets in US you can get small vial perfumes (I love the little bottles and it is easy for the chica to store)) cheap and women love scents.
It is a scent that they normally would not have in Tijuana.
I am only talking about a couple dollars and it really works well with the chicas. The scent will remind them of you for later action.
Plus if you happen to get a chica who forgot to shower you can always "accidentally" spill it on them. LOL
I have had chicas remember me (by name) after a year because of this (it sure was not my Mr. Happy) and that is hard to do with all the people they interact with in a year.
Another thing is ear rings small easy to store. Great for work jewery.
I have given a pair to a sad (depressed) looking chica and got her to smile. Later a came back for a nice session.
[QUOTE=Sgt Perv]The only thing I would put in the card would be a couple American ribbed condoms and then politely offer her assistance in using her gift. I totally believe in offering small tokens but that teddy bear and flower guys can keep their products.
Got to be somewhat original, not obviously lazy, in your tokens.
Just for example, my held secret, at flea markets in US you can get small vial perfumes (I love the little bottles and it is easy for the chica to store)) cheap and women love scents.
It is a scent that they normally would not have in Tijuana.
I am only talking about a couple dollars and it really works well with the chicas. The scent will remind them of you for later action.
Plus if you happen to get a chica who forgot to shower you can always "accidentally" spill it on them. LOL
I have had chicas remember me (by name) after a year because of this (it sure was not my Mr. Happy) and that is hard to do with all the people they interact with in a year.
Another thing is ear rings small easy to store. Great for work jewery.
I have given a pair to a sad (depressed) looking chica and got her to smile. Later a came back for a nice session.[/QUOTE]
Perfume is nice but can get some guys in hot waters back home if you know what I mean?
Shit man your getting too serious now jewelry too?
Just get her a wedding ring a get it over with :D
Btw, that pussy stench can turn me off fast, I had a few that bad, I just don't have the guts to tell her to go wash that stinky dead fish with some gasoline or something LOL!
What options do you have? Can you just cancel the deal in the room and everything is cool?
That bad smell means few things, she just had her period
Also the girl can stink if she has yeast infection which guys can catch too.
So if it smell like dead squid under the summer sun yummy!
Watch for flies, Sushi anyone?:D
[QUOTE=HornyTraveler]Shit man your getting too serious now jewelry too?
Just get her a wedding ring a get it over with :D[/QUOTE]I have not spent over $5 ,I do not believe, for any one token.
I gather them throughout the year and keep them in my shaving kit during TJ season.
The possible stank problem:
1. You could get a pre-finger dip. That would be one way to test her innersoul.
2. You could playfully make an excuse to kiss her thigh and then take a snort
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3. You could ask her if her "monkey" is "funky"......be prepared to get your face smacked.
4. You could stick cotton balls in your nose like the coroners do (your choice of scent...I like Jazmin).
5. You could apply cologne on yourself ( it takes a few minutes for you to get use to it).
6. You could carry an empty mustard bottle filled with water/vinegar and then squirt her.
I am pretty sure once she drops the linen ......you owe unless you have a "no funk" clause in your deal prior to going arriba.
You could have the hotel manger smell your finger and then ask for your room fee back ( be prepared to get your nose punched). lol
[QUOTE=Sgt Perv]
You could have the hotel manger smell your finger and then ask for your room fee back ( be prepared to get your nose punched). lol[/QUOTE]
LOL!
I'm a sport fisherman I can tolerate some fish stench, nothing is worse than dead warm squid I use for bait LOL!
1. My gay friends use the finger test, while they are dancing, they stick their fingers in each other's butts, and give it a taste. You could also ask the midget waiter from ADELITA to help you out.... HE CAN'T KEEP HS NOSE OUT OF EVERYBODY'S BUSNESS!!!!!!!!!!!!! Badda-Boom
2. Wait til some other guy goes with her, and when he comes downstairs,
politely ask if you can Smell his dick... GIGGITY GIGGITY
[QUOTE=Rabo Verde]1. My gay friends use the finger test, while they are dancing, they stick their fingers in each other's butts, and give it a taste. You could also ask the midget waiter from ADELITA to help you out.... HE CAN'T KEEP HS NOSE OUT OF EVERYBODY'S BUSNESS!!!!!!!!!!!!! Badda-Boom
2. Wait til some other guy goes with her, and when he comes downstairs,
politely ask if you can Smell his dick... GIGGITY GIGGITY[/QUOTE]
I don't think anyone here cares about your gay friends tests and experiences,your last post below is repulsive and childish are you 9 yrs old?
BTW,do us all a favor and delete this nonsense post.
[QUOTE=HornyTraveler]I don't think anyone here cares about your gay friends tests and experiences,your last post below is repulsive and childish are you 9 yrs old?
BTW,do us all a favor and delete this nonsense post.[/QUOTE]
This offends you and you think the poster is immature BUT YOU make us read this BS?
[QUOTE=HornyTraveler]Perfume is nice but can get some guys in hot waters back home if you know what I mean?
Shit man your getting too serious now jewelry too?
Just get her a wedding ring a get it over with :D
Btw, that pussy stench can turn me off fast, I had a few that bad, I just don't have the guts to tell her to go wash that stinky dead fish with some gasoline or something LOL!
What options do you have? Can you just cancel the deal in the room and everything is cool?
That bad smell means few things, she just had her period
Also the girl can stink if she has yeast infection which guys can catch too.
So if it smell like dead squid under the summer sun yummy!
Watch for flies, Sushi anyone?:D[/QUOTE]
Squid jokes, washing with gasoline suggestions and sushi references are SO funny.
CC
[QUOTE=HornyTraveler]BTW,do us all a favor and delete this nonsense post.[/QUOTE]Do I need to remind you again about the ignore button?
[QUOTE=Cobra Comander]This offends you and you think the poster is immature BUT YOU make us read this BS?
Squid jokes, washing with gasoline suggestions and sushi references are SO funny.
CC[/QUOTE]
What's wrong with my post just a clean joke, I'm not saying sucking shit from anyone ass, and my post and jokes were between me and Sgt Perv, I didn't find Ravo Verde post offensive just stupid and personal, like I said this was a thread between me and Sgt Perv, go back and read the thread from the beginning before puking all over the site!
[QUOTE=HornyTraveler]What's wrong with my post just a clean joke, I'm not saying sucking shit from anyone ass, and my post and jokes were between me and Sgt Perv, I didn't find Ravo Verde post offensive just stupid and personal, like I said this was a thread between me and Sgt Perv, go back and read the thread from the beginning before puking all over the site![/QUOTE]
You don't need to get all upset about it. Just saying.
You may also want to consider using periods instead of commas as well.
CC
If it was not for the swine flu, we should have a group hug and go back to playing. We are sounding more like biotches than the chicas. LOL
Let us go back to having fun without getting too carried away. People's humor vary but their is no harm intended.
[QUOTE=Sgt Perv]If it was not for the swine flu, we should have a group hug and go back to playing. We are sounding more like biotches than the chicas. LOL
Let us go back to having fun without getting too carried away. People's humor vary but their is no harm intended.[/QUOTE]
So my friend @ HK texted me this morning saying she was going back to Sonora until this flu thing blows over.....
Bummer.
CC
[QUOTE=Cobra Comander]So my friend @ HK texted me this morning saying she was going back to Sonora until this flu thing blows over.....
Bummer.
CC[/QUOTE]Thanks for the update.
I suspect that all the ladies will return to their hometown to be with their family particularly if their home town is in one of the uninfected area, and TJ is listed as an infected area. It just makes sense.
[QUOTE=HornyTraveler]Thanks for ol the info!
BTW, maybe someone can explain the private booth dance deal a little better?
Is it worth the $20, is every girl the same way in the private dance I mean can you finger, kiss, bite, chew it up, slap it etc, etc.. for a 20? :D
Now that I remember I can get a SG for the same 20 bucks?
It sounds to me like HK is overpriced Am I wrong?
I guess AB is a different animal, I had girls come to me and straight out ask me if I want to F..K, that's too much to rough for my taste, I like the soft feminine approach and say hi first what's your name and the rest of the blah, blah B.S.
I guess AB is more like a glory hole![/QUOTE]
Yup, it depends on the girl and the situation when doing the private dance. One girl asked to go to the booth for $20, so I told her "bj" and she said that's not allowed in the booth. On a different visit she mentioned the booth again but this time agreed to do everything for $50.
Another girl I went to the booth with only allowed me to play and suck on her tits. Nothing lower. Jerked me off for an extra $5. I wanted to finish on her breast but denied me because she didn't have anything to clean up with afterwards.
At Ab you do get the girls who introduce themselves with "Hi, let's go upstair, I'll fuck you good!"
I got a few on my last visit. While they where definitely hot I turned them down simply because of it. Good chance of being a factory fuck. One girl I turned down, quickly replied with, "I DIDN'T REALLY WANT TO GO UP WITH YOU ANYWAYS!" and walked away. It was kind of funny.
OK,
Peace!
No harm done, let's go back to the chicas!
I am more worry about the 7 killed cops than the pig flu virus.
Btw, the cops were all shot around 8pm early in the evening.
Are we in danger of crossfire in the zona?
There since to be too many municipal police around the clubs even at AB door.
[QUOTE=HornyTraveler]Thanks for ol the info!
BTW, maybe someone can explain the private booth dance deal a little better?
Is it worth the $20, is every girl the same way in the private dance I mean can you finger, kiss, bite, chew it up, slap it etc, etc.. for a 20? :D
Now that I remember I can get a SG for the same 20 bucks?
It sounds to me like HK is overpriced Am I wrong?
I guess AB is a different animal, I had girls come to me and straight out ask me if I want to F..K, that's too much to rough for my taste, I like the soft feminine approach and say hi first what's your name and the rest of the blah, blah B.S.
I guess AB is more like a glory hole![/QUOTE]
I find the booths quite entertaining. There is suspense factor because every girl is going to be different in the booth...like a box of chocolates. I had plain lap dances to full on DATY to BBBJ in the booths. It is kind of exciting to be naughty, just a few feet away from unsuspecting customers who can vaguely see you through the sandblasted glass.
You get all that for just $20?
[QUOTE]There is suspense factor because every girl is going to be different in the booth.[/QUOTE]Excellent point. For me, a trip to the booth is all about getting worked up in advance of a session upstairs. So I'm not disappointed if the girl won't get me off. Of course, I want to get my money's worth. So without being a jerk about it I always test the girl's boundaries. If she grinds her ass into my crotch I put her hand on the zipper. If she's comfortable rubbing the outside of my pants with her hand, I'll unzip to see if she'll reach inside to my boxers. If she's willing to do that I'll guide her hand inside the fly. If that's working, I'll guide her head down to my groin.
My strategy is the same when it comes to touching her. If she lets me grab her ass or fondle her tits over the top of her clothes, I'll try to slip my hand inside her bra or skirt. If she's OK with that I'll see if I can get inside her panties. If a little finger fucking is OK I'll take a shot at going down on her.
I emphasize that it's important to respect the girl's rules, whatever they may be. I'm always flirty and playful in the booth, and I never come even close to anything that is even remotely nonconsensual. Not only would that be manifestly uncool, but I suspect anybody who got rough with a girl in the private booth would be in for a major beat down at the hands of the club's staff. (Or even worse, it might become a matter for the police.) If you approach the privado the same way you did a session of heavy petting with your high school sweetie you'll be fine and it could end up being fun.
[QUOTE=Bunky]Excellent point. For me, a trip to the booth is all about getting worked up in advance of a session upstairs. So I'm not disappointed if the girl won't get me off. Of course, I want to get my money's worth. So without being a jerk about it I always test the girl's boundaries. If she grinds her ass into my crotch I put her hand on the zipper. If she's comfortable rubbing the outside of my pants with her hand, I'll unzip to see if she'll reach inside to my boxers. If she's willing to do that I'll guide her hand inside the fly. If that's working, I'll guide her head down to my groin.
My strategy is the same when it comes to touching her. If she lets me grab her ass or fondle her tits over the top of her clothes, I'll try to slip my hand inside her bra or skirt. If she's OK with that I'll see if I can get inside her panties. If a little finger fucking is OK I'll take a shot at going down on her.
I emphasize that it's important to respect the girl's rules, whatever they may be. I'm always flirty and playful in the booth, and I never come even close to anything that is even remotely nonconsensual. Not only would that be manifestly uncool, but I suspect anybody who got rough with a girl in the private booth would be in for a major beat down at the hands of the club's staff. (Or even worse, it might become a matter for the police.) If you approach the privado the same way you did a session of heavy petting with your high school sweetie you'll be fine and it could end up being fun.[/QUOTE]
Is Hk in the top ten? Does anyone know? Thanks
From what I hear, South America and Thailand are ranked as some of the highest.
Wait a minute, what sort of establishment would even conduct this kind of survey?
[QUOTE=Sound7]Is Hk in the top ten? Does anyone know? Thanks[/QUOTE]
Top 10 what? Anbody's top 10 list is going to be highly subjective.
If you're talking about strip clubs, well, it beats ANY club in the US. Assuming you're looking for a place where mostly attractive girls dance around naked and you can screw them for a few $$.
It's better than the clubs in Costa Rica, primarily due to price/performance issues.
It's better than most clubs in Bangkok because there the girls have to remain clothed. Pattaya, not so much. On the other hand, it's worse than most clubs in Thailand because (again, subjective) the Thai girls are thinner and prettier than the HK chicas.
There is no right answer. If it's in YOUR top 10, enjoy.
[QUOTE=Sound7]
Yes, Thai girls can be very crushing in beauty, size and charm.[/quote]
Beauty, really? I've never been to Thailand but from the pics i've seen of the girls working there they tend to look less than Stellar. Not ugly by any means but more of a regular girl you would see walking about. They don't seem to fix themselves up like most of the girls in the Zona. And their bodies tend to be on the skinnier side. Maybe it's just me being subjective since I preffer the latin girls with big booties. If I am wrong, then please let me know what it is I am not noticing. What are the bars like over there?
[QUOTE=Efjayel]Beauty, really? I've never been to Thailand but from the pics i've seen of the girls working there they tend to look less than Stellar. Not ugly by any means but more of a regular girl you would see walking about. They don't seem to fix themselves up like most of the girls in the Zona. And their bodies tend to be on the skinnier side. Maybe it's just me being subjective since I preffer the latin girls with big booties. If I am wrong, then please let me know what it is I am not noticing. What are the bars like over there?[/QUOTE]
...and you will have millions of details about the bars all over Bangkok.
I am a great fan of HK, and cannot see why loving Hk would mean not loving BKK. When in BKK, i enjoy the Thai, and when in SD, enjoy the HK girls... The differences are numerous, but I am not interested in "rating".. the major difference, is that in BKK, one you have BF the girl, she spent the evening, and if you want,the night with you, as your girl friend, and all that for aroung 50 $... But I also enjioy spending hours in HK, groping everything that passes by for 1 $, and finishing with my choice arriba...
[QUOTE=Efjayel]Beauty, really? I've never been to Thailand but from the pics i've seen of the girls working there they tend to look less than Stellar. Not ugly by any means but more of a regular girl you would see walking about. They don't seem to fix themselves up like most of the girls in the Zona. And their bodies tend to be on the skinnier side. Maybe it's just me being subjective since I preffer the latin girls with big booties. If I am wrong, then please let me know what it is I am not noticing. What are the bars like over there?[/QUOTE]
The girls do fix themselves up, but only the ladyboys go to the same extent (lots of eye shadow, eye liner, tons of rouge, etc.) as the TJ girls. My faves are the Burmese who really don't do that much except for the brown stuff (I forget the name) they put on their cheeks. I got to where I thought it was attractive.
The girls are very pretty, if you like Asians. If you're looking for chubbier girls with large asses, then pickings will be slim.
The go-go bars (as they are called there) generally do not let the girls dance nude (there was a crackdown a few years back). But this varies by region. In any case, the dancing that goes on at HK is far better than what you'll see in a Thai go-go. However, if you like being surrounded by pretty Asian chicks who treat you really nice, you can't beat a SEA bar.
Unaware or unconcerned he was posting in a forum devoted to TIJUANA, some chap who goes by "Sound 7" inquired: [QUOTE]I’m getting ready for my virgin trip to Lima and have complied the following. Could you guys let me know if I have captured anything in error?[/QUOTE]You might want to follow the links to the forums for PERU.
[QUOTE=Efjayel]Beauty, really? I've never been to Thailand but from the pics i've seen of the girls working there they tend to look less than Stellar. Not ugly by any means but more of a regular girl you would see walking about. They don't seem to fix themselves up like most of the girls in the Zona. And their bodies tend to be on the skinnier side. Maybe it's just me being subjective since I preffer the latin girls with big booties. If I am wrong, then please let me know what it is I am not noticing. What are the bars like over there?[/QUOTE]Yep, I totally agree with you.
I'm mexican myself think some zona chicks are extremely hot. Especially the ones in the clubs adelitas, hk, etc.
[QUOTE=Jackie888]Thanks for the update.
I suspect that all the ladies will return to their hometown to be with their family particularly if their home town is in one of the uninfected area, and TJ is listed as an infected area. It just makes sense.[/QUOTE]
Actually there are no cases in Baja. I suspect there are mild unreported cases. The only nearby cases are in SD county.
Stay away from anyone who is sneezing and coughing and constantly wash your hand. kissing would be a bad idea for those of you that do.
[QUOTE=Cobra Comander]So my friend @ HK texted me this morning saying she was going back to Sonora until this flu thing blows over.....
Bummer.
CC[/QUOTE]
True. I don't think the Edecuan tricks are worth the hassle unless she's a 9+
[QUOTE=Jackie888]From my experience, the girls in sashes are genuinely surprised when you start negotiating.
I don't think they're used to it.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Phordphan]IMHO the $20 dances are a waste of money, but to each his own.
DO NOT even THINK about forking over $70 - $80 or more to any HK chica. Lots of the night shift will feed you the line that they're more expensive. Don't buy into it. It's a buyer's market now.
As far as finding out who goes up, just ask.[/QUOTE]
You don't have to ask. 80% of them do.
I've never had an Edecan ask for money. They either want to do it or they don't and they took whatever was given them them. 60/80. In general the Edecans are alot better looking than other workers there, imo
However the best looking one left to go home not the long ago. The best one left is Ruby but she is the type that will negotiate.
I notice they have their position where they are supposed to stand. How are you supposed to get them to leave their spot and come sit with you? Are they allowed to leave their post?
[QUOTE=Efjayel]I notice they have their position where they are supposed to stand. How are you supposed to get them to leave their spot and come sit with you? Are they allowed to leave their post?[/QUOTE]Two ways.
You can either come up and ask them directly. Or you can tip the waiter a dollar and he'll go get her for you. The ladies will not refuse a drink.
Most guys like to plant their butt in their favorite booth first, then use a waiter.
The ladies come and go. But there are only so many good places to sit.
Went south at around 7 about. Crowds in the Zona were fairly sparse but HK had plenty of folks milling around. I must've caught them in the middle of shift change because the selection was a little lacking. But it gradually picked up over the next hour or so. Gal named Elizabeth from Cabo (blonde hair, bolt-ons, hard body) chatted me up so I opted for a privado. Decent enough so asked how much to go arriba. She wanted 70 but dropped her to 60. I had reservations in the back of my mind and, as it turns out, for good reason. But I went ahead. In the room she was pretty mechanical and tried to rush. Asked for a tip afterwards which I denied. Pretty much an Adelitas-like experience, which disappointed because I normally have a much better experience at HK. Would not recommend her.
hit hk middle of last week. got there about 5 or 6 and the place was jumping. shaving cream show going on (now new and improved with chocolate syrup). seriously, who doesn;t like watching two girls go at it, but who needs all that shaving cream shit.
was there about 3-4 hours in total and sat through 2-3 of these girl on girl shows. love hk.
couple beers in and the renowned salma brushes my shoulder. there;s younger, and there's better looking, but there's no better service than salma. arriba we go.
went around the world with salma, finished up her [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord116][CodeWord116][/url] shoot. to be honest, i prefer to pop on her tongue, but she seems to get such a kick out of back door action, i just can't refuse.
later, wait at the border was maybe 30 min. all this bs about drug fights and swine flu doesn;t seem to be keeping anyone away.
I Met her at Hong Kong and she was very entertaining for almost two hours.
[QUOTE=Ze Gato]I Met her at Hong Kong and she was very entertaining for almost two hours.[/QUOTE]
She looks better than she ever did when I was with her a few years back, maybe 5. Wow. My private gallery of her pics shows a much thicker gal. I know she works out like an addict, the results are amazing. Almost makes me want to take her arriba.....
I can tell you for a fact that you would not have her OK to post these. She is sensitive about it.....
[QUOTE=Country John]She looks better than she ever did when I was with her a few years back, maybe 5. Wow. My private gallery of her pics shows a much thicker gal. I know she works out like an addict, the results are amazing. Almost makes me want to take her arriba.
I can tell you for a fact that you would not have her OK to post these. She is sensitive about it.[/QUOTE]that's why I respect you, CJ, you're an ethical monger.
But it's hard to imagine she was ever five.
For Tijuana, without seeing her bunda and legs, important qualities to be sure, but her stomach and the promise of dark nipples have me thinking nine.
[quote=lulu pussy]hit hk middle of last week. got there about 5 or 6 and the place was jumping. shaving cream show going on (now new and improved with chocolate syrup). seriously, who doesn;t like watching two girls go at it, but who needs all that shaving cream shit.
was there about 3-4 hours in total and sat through 2-3 of these girl on girl shows. love hk.
couple beers in and the renowned salma brushes my shoulder. there;s younger, and there's better looking, but there's no better service than salma. arriba we go.
went around the world with salma, finished up her [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord116][CodeWord116][/url] shoot. to be honest, i prefer to pop on her tongue, but she seems to get such a kick out of back door action, i just can't refuse.
later, wait at the border was maybe 30 min. all this bs about drug fights and swine flu doesn;t seem to be keeping anyone away.[/quote]
good ol' salma. heart of gold. a couple of funny stories:
several months ago she was visiting relatives, ran short of money and texted me, asking for $50. wth, why not? i sent it and didn't think too much about it. back in march i was in hk when she came on shift and practically mugged me (in a good way). then she mentioned the money, reminded me that she had promised to repay it, and ran off to the dressing room. she returned with two $20 bills. you should have seen the looks some of the other dancers were giving us! it looked like she was paying me! :) of course, she got the money back an hour later!!
last week she texted me and asked when i was coming to see her, she missed me, she was jealous because she thought i was eating other pussy! you know the drill. :) i told her that business was slow and i didn't have a lot of money to give her (more or less true...). she responded and asked me if i wanted her to give me some money so i could come visit. that was a first!
now if all the chicas would do that...
[QUOTE=Pelongera]that's why I respect you, CJ, you're an ethical monger.
But it's hard to imagine she was ever five.
For Tijuana, without seeing her bunda and legs, important qualities to be sure, but her stomach and the promise of dark nipples have me thinking nine.[/QUOTE]
Funny story Phordphan, she often asked me if I needed money and I too sent money to her; she paid me back with either cash or sessions, I always opted for the sessions. She really does have a heart of gold. Why some guy didn't scoop her up already and get her the hell out of there is beyond me. She'd make a great wifey if you took care of her.
Pelongera, I always believed a monger should be square with the girl and show respect. she might not work out but that's the chance we take in this hobby. If it's actually the same Salma I remember in the photo, she's probably closer to nine today. I last saw her almot 5 years ago, not that she was a "5" when I saw her. It's proably true that, compared to what she looks like today, she was probably a five or so back then. She's probably the closest thing to a sure thing the Zona has to offer. Be nice to her and treat her right.
And don't post pictures without her consent. There are people that she does NOT want to know where she works, her parents for example. So these posted pics should come down and her privacy respected.
Thanks
Country John
[QUOTE=Country John].
Pelongera, I always believed a monger should be square with the girl and show respect. she might not work out but that's the chance we take in this hobby. If it's actually the same Salma I remember in the photo, she's probably closer to nine today. I last saw her almot 5 years ago, not that she was a "5" when I saw her. It's proably true that, compared to what she looks like today, she was probably a five or so back then. She's probably the closest thing to a sure thing the Zona has to offer. Be nice to her and treat her right.
And don't post pictures without her consent. There are people that she does NOT want to know where she works, her parents for example. So these posted pics should come down and her privacy respected.
Thanks
Country John[/QUOTE]
I'm a little cornfuzed. Are the pix in question here the ones posted by Ze Gato? If so, they are most definitely NOT Salma.
[QUOTE=Phordphan]I'm a little cornfuzed. Are the pix in question here the ones posted by Ze Gato? If so, they are most definitely NOT Salma.[/QUOTE]
Yes, I'm thinking the original post might not have been clear enough to make the disctinction. Thanks for clearing that up. I had to brighten up the images a bit and I did that this morning before posting. That's when I realized that it might not be the same girl, hence the question. No more confusion on this end.
I got an ID on the girl by the way, she is MOYSHA at Hong Kong who turns out to be a PLM grinder of the "Class A" type.
Country John
OK, I give up, what is a PLM?
I know that just PL is Pathetic Loser.
[QUOTE=Sgt Perv]OK, I give up, what is a PLM?
I know that just PL is Pathetic Loser.[/QUOTE]
PLM means Pathetic Loser Monger.
[QUOTE=Country John]PLM means Pathetic Loser Monger.[/QUOTE]
lol, whats a grinder?
[QUOTE=Efjayel]lol, whats a grinder?[/QUOTE]
A PLM "Grinder" is a chica who can spot a potential PLM from across the smoke filled room, approach him and immediately start his head spinning such that he empties his wallet, and is on the "hook" firmly for future fleecing that is carried out mercilessly for as long as he remains under her spell.
Never let a chica lose respect.
HK has at least one PLM Grinder, Class A as defined by CJ to my knowledge. Chica can work with multi-servers to chase the cash out from patron's pocket in a very short time and be very effective with chica drink orders. The Chica drink is effectively discarded - just like magic and the new bottle is pre-opened in most cases like an assembly line. Constantly surrounded by servers providing chatter, distracting conversation and physical screen. Open floor booth ideal setup. Servers coming constantly in all direction. Lots of beer spill on the floor and full bottle removed quickly like magic trick. Ten plus Chica drinks in one hour with demanding tipping from servers and slow money change process. Multi-Server tracking a major challenge even with the ID number badge for the money change.
Try to use the same single server to better control this situation in the future, or just move on.
AB providers on the other hand uses a different income model.
bon voyage
[QUOTE=Country John]A PLM "Grinder" is a chica who can spot a potential PLM from across the smoke filled room, approach him and immediately start his head spinning such that he empties his wallet, and is on the "hook" firmly for future fleecing that is carried out mercilessly for as long as he remains under her spell.
Never let a chica lose respect.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Efjayel]lol, whats a grinder?[/QUOTE]What we in the USA call a hustler. Beware!
[QUOTE=Sgt Perv]What we in the USA call a hustler. Beware![/QUOTE]
In other words an American woman. :D
[QUOTE=Efjayel]In other words an American woman. :D[/QUOTE]Like a lot of American strippers. Slowly but constantly ( aka grinding) draining your wallet/credit card (drinks,tips, lap dances,lines of BS and it is all a tease).
That is why I hate most USA strip clubs.
We all know people who have dropped hundreds without so much as a sticky finger to show/smell for it.
In the zona, if I am not getting some p*ssy by the 1000 peso mark I would be a PLM. Yes, I know it takes a lot less but I am talking PLM ( meaning that I am trying to get some and not or way overpaying).
Anybody who reads this forum , should never fall into that category.
An American woman????
Naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah at least a Mexican girl WILL usually fuck you before she robs you!
So I was gossiping with some of the HK girls in Spanish.
Very few local TJ girls like to even be SEEN in the zona, as the immediate rumors will start. Well the HK management found a solution:
After the remodel, the club started advertising for and recruiting young TJ girls. The club pays young local hotties about $1 an hour just to stand on the bar or the rail and dance. The sash is optional. They get to tell people they are "promotadoras" which is kinda like the guys at the front of WALMART who say "WELCOME TO WALMART, HAVE A NICE DAY!"
They get clocked in on a clipboard and clocked out, and they get 100-150 pesos for "dancing" or hanging around out front of the bar for 8 hours.
They all start out thinking well I am just gonna dance and/or greet people with my clothes on....
They are not required to let guys touch them or get naked. So a bunch of local girls said hell, why not! Hang out at the disco with my girlfriends and get PAID for it? Just for wearing a sash? Fuck yeah! Then some of the braver ones started accepting drinks, privados, etc., and the rest is history..... jajaja
So the "shy" looking girls with the sashes are mostly local TJ girls who tell their family and friends they just get paid to only DANCE there, or hand out flyers, fully clothed. Many of them have to be home at 9 PM for their BEDTIME!!!!! Never underestimate the power of denial ROFL
[QUOTE=Rabo Verde]So the "shy" looking girls with the sashes are mostly local TJ girls who tell their family and friends they just get paid to only DANCE there, or hand out flyers, fully clothed.[/QUOTE]
Even if they are only "promoting," no one is going to believe it. You know how people love to gossip and exagerate stories. I'm sure over 80% percent of these sash girls wouldn't even dare tell their parents that they work as dancers.
Just reading Mexico including Tijuana HK will not provide the protection against the HK's talented staff.
Better cultural understanding and timing - key for cash conservation anywhere.
[QUOTE=Sgt Perv]Like a lot of American strippers. Slowly but constantly ( aka grinding) draining your wallet/credit card (drinks,tips, lap dances,lines of BS and it is all a tease).
That is why I hate most USA strip clubs.
We all know people who have dropped hundreds without so much as a sticky finger to show/smell for it.
In the zona, if I am not getting some p*ssy by the 1000 peso mark I would be a PLM. Yes, I know it takes a lot less but I am talking PLM ( meaning that I am trying to get some and not or way overpaying).
Anybody who reads this forum , should never fall into that category.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Sound7]Just reading Mexico including Tijuana HK will not provide the protection against the HK's talented staff.
Better cultural understanding and timing - key for cash conservation anywhere.[/QUOTE]It is not so much as the culture of any country but the [b]sub[/b]culture of the business.
The hustle is basically the same anywhere but by reading this forum, you should learn the prices,where to go and not go and what is really available.
Walking into a situation with an arm full of intel, will have you set up for success.
By reading this forum you should be aware of the scams that are out there, like the potato chip scam and how to deal with it.
Reading this forum should heighten your sense of awareness to the point where you see the scams coming and know how to deter most of them.
No matter how talented the staff may be, if you are ready for it it is less effective.
Everyone in the hobby does get scammed at one point or another but the difference between them and a PLM is the amount and how often it occurs.
Stopping or blocking scams in the beginning will stop/slowdown future attempts.
Scams mainly target the unknowing!
[QUOTE=Sgt Perv]
By reading this forum you should be aware of the scams that are out there, like the potato chip scam and how to deal with it.
[/QUOTE]
Is the potato chip scam the one the waiter brings to your table when you did not order any?
Watch out with the hard liquor trick for the girl, when I ordered a beer, don't let the girls order hard liquor like tequila etc, it cost more money like $8 if I'm not mistaking?
I know on the la Bella (dance) is a even split with the house ($$) for three songs (6 minutes request). $ to the time counter, $ to the server arrangement, $ for touch, $ for the rental of smog suite, $$$ for a perception of being a super model (split?) and some other promotional features - $ tip for the server, other drink games $$$, potato chip $, outside lunch order $ with server's lunch not included. I forgot the shoe shine, another $.
One could hold on to $$ but not the one, five, ten, twenty unless a very quick exit. Entrance fee $?
It all adds up to $$$ no matter how you look at it at HK.
No deals or promotion at HK in the $$ range.
AB $$ to $$$
HK or AB profit sharing with the staff?
[QUOTE=Sgt Perv]It is not so much as the culture of any country but the [b]sub[/b]culture of the business.
The hustle is basically the same anywhere but by reading this forum, you should learn the prices,where to go and not go and what is really available.
Walking into a situation with an arm full of intel, will have you set up for success.
By reading this forum you should be aware of the scams that are out there, like the potato chip scam and how to deal with it.
Reading this forum should heighten your sense of awareness to the point where you see the scams coming and know how to deter most of them.
No matter how talented the staff may be, if you are ready for it it is less effective.
Everyone in the hobby does get scammed at one point or another but the difference between them and a PLM is the amount and how often it occurs.
Stopping or blocking scams in the beginning will stop/slowdown future attempts.
Scams mainly target the unknowing![/QUOTE]
Tip included in chica beer $. Is the chica mixed drink like tequila $$?
[QUOTE=HornyTraveler]Is the potato chip scam the one the waiter brings to your table when you did not order any?
Watch out with the hard liquor trick for the girl, when I ordered a beer, don't let the girls order hard liquor like tequila etc, it cost more money like $8 if I'm not mistaking?[/QUOTE]
What's with all the use of dollars signs? $$
It's only confusing me while I try to read!
[QUOTE=HornyTraveler]Is the potato chip scam the one the waiter brings to your table when you did not order any?
Watch out with the hard liquor trick for the girl, when I ordered a beer, don't let the girls order hard liquor like tequila etc, it cost more money like $8 if I'm not mistaking?[/QUOTE]
Yes, that is the potato chip scam. I had it done to me at Tropical bar. I just told the guy I wasn't going to pay for them. He stood there holding them out to me hoping I'd change my mind. I didn't. He took them back and charged only for the drinks. The chips where like $4 dollars extra.
You don't let the girl order hard liquor? I hate to think how that scene plays out. How do you do it, and what does the girl say when you stop her order?
[quote=efjayel]you don't let the girl order hard liquor? i hate to think how that scene plays out. how do you do it, and what does the girl say when you stop her order? [/quote]first insist on being a "gentleman"(not a fool) and insist on doing all the ordering that she expects you to pay for.
if you need her to translate for you, she can translate after [b]you[/b] give the order to the waiter.
the scam on the drinks is to keep the chica sober and empty as much money as possible from your wallet.
you are not buying the chica a drink, you are renting her [b]time[/b].
clubs want their chicas to remain sober for obvious reasons.
no way can a chica drink all those drinks and remain sober, so drink scams happen.
[b]sealed bottles[/b]-drinks are spilled or taken away early.
[b]mixed drinks[/b]-only 1/4 shot poured on the top so if you taste or smell it seems like a legit drink (most popular and profitable for chica and club). takes 12 or more for the chica to be even slightly effected.
the chica will tell you (if caught) she is on medicine so can not drink alcohol.
[b]shots[/b]-not a real shot. same as [b]mixed drinks[/b] except for the medicine excuse will not work. shots are the fastest way to fleece you. either by another shot or a request for a chaser drink. if she can get you to buy shots and drinks, she has you right where she wants you.
remember while she is drinking basically nothing, you are drinking the real stuff. the more she gets you to drink the more advantage she has.
club and chica goal is to drink at the most 1/4 shot worth of any drink purchase and to get to the next drink as soon as possible.
mixed drinks and shots cost more than beer.
tell her you will buy a beer [b]only[/b] if you want to rent her [b]time[/b] (why pay more). tell her you will only buy another when you see her actually drink [b]all[/b] the drink you bought her.
waiters watch for you to turn your head so they can grab her not empty bottle. they like to wrap their drinks with some thing so that you can not tell how much drink they have left. i, myself, carry a wrap around cooler. not only does it keep my drink cold but it makes it very hard to see how much is left and prevents "accidental" pick up from waiter (i most always keep a hand on it too) i like to have fun and watch the waiter who is watching me (not obviously) and when he makes his move i pick her drink up and look at it. it is funny to see their reaction (they are like shit! i can not do it now).
the chicas will place their drinks at the edge of the table to help in the quick pick-up. i like to have the chica keep her drink towards the middle of the table away from the edge (i tell her so she/or someone walking by, will not accidentally spill it). if you know what to watch for, it is hard (not impossible) to be fooled more than you want to be fooled.
these drink scams are standard, basic and employed at most strip club subculture environments.
i have skipped a few scams but you can see how the game is played.
scams sometimes use speed to work well so keep things at a slow pace so you can ingest all that is going on around you, no hurry because you will get laid and there is no sense in getting fucked in the process.
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I skipped the ice scam but decided to add it.
They fill the mixed drink glass with so much ice that it has very little liquid.
Makes for a fast finish of the drink.
Ladies will want a new drink because hers is watery now.
Many drink scams used by the clubs to separate you from your money.
Sealed bottle beer is sometimes old beer (stale) ready to be destroyed, they slip it in every now and then.
Mixed drinks are made like chica drinks (except you get half a shot poured on top) after your first drink with a lot of ice (they save on alcohol and you buy more drinks). The initial sip shocks your taste buds.
If there is a will, there is a scam.
All complaints have to be made right away[before waiter leaves (I like to sample before I tip)] or it will be dismissed as false.
If they suspect you are watching for the scam, most times they will try it with someone else.
Some scam can not be altered, so you have to avoid or not repeat your scammed order.
Being drunk in a club is like bending over and spreading your cheeks for the scam artist.
I have learned to do my main drinking outside the zona and in my room.
I buy only beer or water in the zona, nothing that is not sealed.
$ 1 to 9 USD
$$ 10 to 99 USD
$$$ 100 to 999 USD
Save 10 to 15% in some cases by using MEX, lots of change to manage.
[QUOTE=Efjayel]What's with all the use of dollars signs? $$
It's only confusing me while I try to read!
Yes, that is the potato chip scam. I had it done to me at Tropical bar. I just told the guy I wasn't going to pay for them. He stood there holding them out to me hoping I'd change my mind. I didn't. He took them back and charged only for the drinks. The chips where like $4 dollars extra.
You don't let the girl order hard liquor? I hate to think how that scene plays out. How do you do it, and what does the girl say when you stop her order?[/QUOTE]
Extra tipping during the dance ($$). Being sober at the club helps understand the day scam with the particular server or combination.
[QUOTE=Sgt Perv]I skipped the ice scam but decided to add it.
They fill the mixed drink glass with so much ice that it has very little liquid.
Makes for a fast finish of the drink.
Ladies will want a new drink because hers is watery now.
Many drink scams used by the clubs to separate you from your money.
Sealed bottle beer is sometimes old beer (stale) ready to be destroyed, they slip it in every now and then.
Mixed drinks are made like chica drinks (except you get half a shot poured on top) after your first drink with a lot of ice (they save on alcohol and you buy more drinks). The initial sip shocks your taste buds.
If there is a will, there is a scam.
All complaints have to be made right away[before waiter leaves (I like to sample before I tip)] or it will be dismissed as false.
If they suspect you are watching for the scam, most times they will try it with someone else.
Some scam can not be altered, so you have to avoid or not repeat your scammed order.
Being drunk in a club is like bending over and spreading your cheeks for the scam artist.
I have learned to do my main drinking outside the zona and in my room.
I buy only beer or water in the zona, nothing that is not sealed.[/QUOTE]
That's some good intel Private Perv.
I honestly don't care that the drinks are watered down for the chicas. That's better for them actually. I talk to the one of the girls about the drink being watered down. She admitted they where and that she preferred it that way because she didn't want to get drunk. Her daily drink quota is a minimum of 20 drinks, which is a lot. I agree that they should be watered down. And I don't mind buying the chicas a drink. I just don't like paying an arm and a leg for them. Chica ficha drinks cost more than buying a drink for yourself.
[QUOTE=Sound7]$ 1 to 9 USD
$$ 10 to 99 USD
$$$ 100 to 999 USD
Save 10 to 15% in some cases by using MEX, lots of change to manage.[/QUOTE]Actually:Abbreviations List
$ $100
$$ $200
$$$ $300
$$$.5 $350 (get it?)
Changing or making up your own abbreviations is confusing.
Jackson already has a list of abbreviations we all try to follow and refer to when one pops up we do not understand.
If you must make one up (not already covered) , say what it means in the beginning .
[QUOTE=Efjayel]She admitted they where and that she preferred it that way because she didn't want to get drunk. Her daily drink quota is a minimum of 20 drinks, which is a lot. I agree that they should be watered down. And I don't mind buying the chicas a drink. I just don't like paying an arm and a leg for them. Chica ficha drinks cost more than buying a drink for yourself.[/QUOTE]The whole point of the intel is that you are not going to get them drunk to the point of getting more.
You are only renting their [b]time[/b].
You will get laid as soon as you pony up the arriba pesos.
Yes, sometimes [b]one[/b] drink gets you a lower price (and better feel for her) but the rest are just pesos for her [b] time[/b].
One drink is suppose to be about 10- 15 min of her [b]time[/b].
If that is what you want ,then cool you know the deal.
Do the math(Efjayel this is where you take off your shoes, leave your zipper up because we are only going to[b]20[/b] :D) if the fisca quota is 20 then she spends 3 1/2-5 hours sitting on her money maker.
This is a great incentive for her to go with the drink scams.
Ok Efjayel put your shoes back on, I threw in some division just to screw with you and I hope you did not hurt yourself. :D
[QUOTE=Sound7]Extra tipping during the dance ($$).[/QUOTE]I do not consider that a scam.
You are not being fooled/mislead.
You touch ,you pay! Simple.
I do use the 10 peso instead of a US dollar.
I touched,I paid and now it is on her to deal with the coin.
Great obervation. What happens when the quota is not meet? Pay the house?
Twenty drink would in the $140 to 160 range per night, Chica fischa drink at $7 to $8.
[QUOTE=Efjayel]That's some good intel Private Perv.
I honestly don't care that the drinks are watered down for the chicas. That's better for them actually. I talk to the one of the girls about the drink being watered down. She admitted they where and that she preferred it that way because she didn't want to get drunk. Her daily drink quota is a minimum of 20 drinks, which is a lot. I agree that they should be watered down. And I don't mind buying the chicas a drink. I just don't like paying an arm and a leg for them. Chica ficha drinks cost more than buying a drink for yourself.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Efjayel]That's some good intel Private Perv.
I honestly don't care that the drinks are watered down for the chicas. That's better for them actually. I talk to the one of the girls about the drink being watered down. She admitted they where and that she preferred it that way because she didn't want to get drunk. Her daily drink quota is a minimum of 20 drinks, which is a lot. I agree that they should be watered down. And I don't mind buying the chicas a drink. I just don't like paying an arm and a leg for them. Chica ficha drinks cost more than buying a drink for yourself.[/QUOTE]
Remember this mongers: You are not "buying them a drink." You are buying their TIME in the booth. They are not going to sit and play grab-ass with you if you don't buy them a drink; you are paying $8 for however much TIME it takes for the girl to finish the drink. Some finish it in 3 minutes, some take a bit longer. You have that long to figure out if you want to session the girl but you might want to take a second look before handing over your hard earned money for a watered down ficha.
Buy the girl a drink if you want to spend TIME in the booth with her. Don;t buy her a drink if you are NOT interested in spending TIME with her.
Drink equals TIME. Some girls drink faster than others. She has a quota, she doesn't care who buys the drink, as long as she has the NEXT one on the way too.
Country John
[QUOTE=Sound7]Great obervation. What happens when the quota is not meet? Pay the house?
Twenty drink would in the $140 to 160 range per night, Chica fischa drink at $7 to $8.[/QUOTE]Most clubs have a combination plan.
Each club is different and plan could change at managements will.
Combination plans vary but here is an example for conversation only.
20 drink quota for example.
One private dance would equal 2 drinks.
One arriba would equal 4 drinks.
Combination does not take into effect unless four real drinks are made.
If quota is not made ,at end of night chica will owe the remainder to the club (club cut of the drink only).
This keeps the chicas working and not just sitting on their asses ignoring customers.
OK I managed a strip club in the US for a 6 month time (it is not the fantasy job it might seem). We used some of the scams and plans as normal business practice.
If you think managing a strip bar is a fantasy job, just think of 15 women being on the rag with you behind the scene with each demanding to be special. I even taught some, bs lines to feed the customers and then hear them laugh how easy it worked.
You have to fine the girls to keep them acting right.
Fine them for being late to dance/work( the irritating lag between dancers).
If you watch the customers, when there is a lag between dances, guys look at their watches and then some leave(late dancer cost club some money).
Fine them for being to long on a drink.
Fine them for not showing up to work.
Fine them for being a biotch around the customers or fighting in dressing room.
Fine them for having a boyfriend/husband in the club (customer safety).
If you let up on the fining the girls will take over and ruin your business.
So I kinda know what to watch for but each place has its own local flair and twist to the scam.
[QUOTE=Sgt Perv]
One drink is suppose to be about 10- 15 min of her [b]time[/b].
[/QUOTE]
That I didn't know?
So a drink is good for 15 minutes then game is over deposit more quarters to play again with pussy just like a pinball LOL!
BTW, I had some smart ass AB girls trying to distract me when buying drinks and getting tequila drinks for more money so be alert!
Also I had a girl went to 2 beers in 20 min and then ask me for a third one in less than half hour and i politely refused and she got up and left my table, she was a real greed B..ch.
[QUOTE=HornyTraveler]That I didn't know?
So a drink is good for 15 minutes then game is over deposit more quarters to play again with pussy just like a pinball LOL!
BTW, I had some smart ass AB girls trying to distract me when buying drinks and getting tequila drinks for more money so be alert!
Also I had a girl went to 2 beers in 20 min and then ask me for a third one in less than half hour and i politely refused and she got up and left my table, she was a real greed B..ch.[/QUOTE]10-15 minutes is what it should be if she is fair, but if the chica finishes it in 3, the waiters will not allow her to sit there with you for the remaining time you think you rented without buying another drink.
[QUOTE=HornyTraveler]That I didn't know?
So a drink is good for 15 minutes then game is over deposit more quarters to play again with pussy just like a pinball LOL!
BTW, I had some smart ass AB girls trying to distract me when buying drinks and getting tequila drinks for more money so be alert!
Also I had a girl went to 2 beers in 20 min and then ask me for a third one in less than half hour and I politely refused and she got up and left my table, she was a real greed B. Ch.[/QUOTE]Business
It is all about business.
Time rule varies for many reason such as:
1.) How busy the place is at the time.
2.) Is the guy being an asshole.
3.) Does she feel another drink is coming or any other money making deal.
4.) Has she spotted another mark yet.
She is there to make money. Period!
The clubs have her there to make them money. Period!
The chicas will scam the club if she is not watched, for example a chica could ask for cash from you to sit longer. This saves you money, she still makes money but the club loses money.
She might suck that first drink down like you wish she would on your Mr. Happy and then promise to take a long time on the next drink.
Around the 30 min mark (10-15 min per drink) she will ask for the third.
Even though she sucked that first one down in under 5 she was with you 25 min on the second. A lot of guys fall for it order a third thinking it will be like the second because she likes him. Wrong!
A smart chica will ask for a "shot" (10-15 min) also on the third and if you buy it she will sit with you 30 min on the "3rd" drink. Guy thinks 'she really likes me she stayed 30 min on the "3rd"drink too, plus she says she is staying longer then she is supposed to'. Wrong!
Can I have a fourth now and how about a shot.
You are now a shot buyer and she now expect it "if you really like her".
Do you see how it is going? You are not beating the time rule actually.
Having been on the other side of the business it is real hard for me to stay in a club and watch all this playing out for more than a hour at a time.
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Who is hot at HK or AB?
Am I at the right club?
Never let the girl loose face - CJ
Remember this mongers: You are not "buying them a drink." You are buying their TIME in the booth. They are not going to sit and play grab-ass with you if you don't buy them a drink; you are paying $8 for however much TIME it takes for the girl to finish the drink. Some finish it in 3 minutes, some take a bit longer. You have that long to figure out if you want to session the girl but you might want to take a second look before handing over your hard earned money for a watered down ficha.
Buy the girl a drink if you want to spend TIME in the booth with her. Don;t buy her a drink if you are NOT interested in spending TIME with her.
Drink equals TIME. Some girls drink faster than others. She has a quota, she doesn't care who buys the drink, as long as she has the NEXT one on the way too.
One drink is suppose to be about 10- 15 min of her time. SP
20 drinks x $8 = 160 house split (50%?) Girl gross take is eighty (80) dollars for 8 hr shift or ten dollars per hour. An hour is equal to a dance (5 - 6 minutes ?) or 2 drinks (6 minutes ?) or one casa trip in three hours.
Client time would be in actual fraction of an hour since more time is spent marketing (90% plus). Typical client in $$$ range in an hour unless nursing his or her beer or water.
To stay in the $$ range and go in standard full swing one would have less than 32 minutes? at HK or 38 minutes at AB to activate and the pick may be a super model in looks. No chica drinks or drinks in the room.
Einstein would have tough time understanding the HK's inner law of physics and gravity but would have noticed the cash loss in relative time. Einstein knew many pretty women.
[QUOTE=Sgt Perv]Most clubs have a combination plan.
Each club is different and plan could change at managements will.
Combination plans vary but here is an example for conversation only.
20 drink quota for example.
One private dance would equal 2 drinks.
One arriba would equal 4 drinks.
Combination does not take into effect unless four real drinks are made.
If quota is not made ,at end of night chica will owe the remainder to the club (club cut of the drink only).
This keeps the chicas working and not just sitting on their asses ignoring customers.
OK I managed a strip club in the US for a 6 month time (it is not the fantasy job it might seem). We used some of the scams and plans as normal business practice.
If you think managing a strip bar is a fantasy job, just think of 15 women being on the rag with you behind the scene with each demanding to be special. I even taught some, bs lines to feed the customers and then hear them laugh how easy it worked.
You have to fine the girls to keep them acting right.
Fine them for being late to dance/work( the irritating lag between dancers).
If you watch the customers, when there is a lag between dances, guys look at their watches and then some leave(late dancer cost club some money).
Fine them for being to long on a drink.
Fine them for not showing up to work.
Fine them for being a biotch around the customers or fighting in dressing room.
Fine them for having a boyfriend/husband in the club (customer safety).
If you let up on the fining the girls will take over and ruin your business.
So I kinda know what to watch for but each place has its own local flair and twist to the scam.[/QUOTE]
Safety Concern .08% VOA
Originally Posted by Efjayel
That's some good intel Private Perv.
I honestly don't care that the drinks are watered down for the chicas. That's better for them actually. I talk to the one of the girls about the drink being watered down. She admitted they where and that she preferred it that way because she didn't want to get drunk. Her daily drink quota is a minimum of 20 drinks, which is a lot. I agree that they should be watered down. And I don't mind buying the chicas a drink. I just don't like paying an arm and a leg for them. Chica ficha drinks cost more than buying a drink for yourself.
I would respond but even though I am completely sober, I am so confused , I have no idea what the hell you are trying to say or imply.
All the $ signs are not helping.
Am I the only one here that really cannot understand what he is trying to convey with his post?
[QUOTE=Sgt Perv]The whole point of the intel is that you are not going to get them drunk to the point of getting more.
You are only renting their [b]time[/b].
You will get laid as soon as you pony up the arriba pesos.
Yes, sometimes [b]one[/b] drink gets you a lower price (and better feel for her) but the rest are just pesos for her [b] time[/b].
One drink is suppose to be about 10- 15 min of her [b]time[/b].
If that is what you want ,then cool you know the deal.
Do the math(Efjayel this is where you take off your shoes, leave your zipper up because we are only going to[b]20[/b] :D) if the fisca quota is 20 then she spends 3 1/2-5 hours sitting on her money maker.
This is a great incentive for her to go with the drink scams.
Ok Efjayel put your shoes back on, I threw in some division just to screw with you and I hope you did not hurt yourself. :D[/QUOTE]
No, but it did give me a headache. :(
20 drink quota is a lot. When she told me this, I was surprised and responded just the same. Follow up questions ensued. She also told me that if the quota is not met, she is required to pay it out of her own pocket. But on certain days like slow days, they will over look it.
[QUOTE=Country John]Remember this mongers: You are not "buying them a drink." You are buying their TIME in the booth.
[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I guess I always knew that. I preffer to get to know the chica before going upstairs and to do so, I HAVE TO buy them a drink so I get the chance to get a feel of them and feel them up as well. lol.
Have a conversation and view body language. Those are good indicators of how they will perform upstairs. Although most new girls I try out are already dragging me upstairs before they finish their drinks. Only two or three sips at the most.
They are being watched as well when spending their [b]time[/b] with you. I've had girls who I was having a great conversation with just get up and leave after being signaled by someone working at the club. One girl did this before she even finished her drink. When I talked to her later, she told me she got in trouble because she was spending too much time with me and not going upstairs or ordering more drinks. They obviously enforce a time limit for each drink.
[QUOTE=Sound7]Safety Concern .08% VOA[/QUOTE]
What? Also, can you please stop with the use of the dollar signs already?
[QUOTE=Sgt Perv]I would respond but even though I am completely sober, I am so confused , I have no idea what the hell you are trying to say or imply.
All the $ signs are not helping.
Am I the only one here that really cannot understand what he is trying to convey with his post?[/QUOTE]
lol. Exactly what I was thinking.
[QUOTE=Efjayel]No, but it did give me a headache. :([/QUOTE]Ever notice how the chica drinks her drink?
The booze in her drink floats on top like a oil slick if made right.
She drinks through a straw.
She is drinking from the bottom of the glass where the booze is not.
She will drink until she first tastes the alcohol and sometimes you can see it on her face( yuk look).
She is done with the drink and consumed almost none of the booze.
She will claim what is left is water will you buy her another.
You can tell about how much alcohol is in a drink by watching the ice.
The more alcohol the faster the ice melts, chica ice last forever lol
I think I would call bs on the drink quota they are just trying to get the most out of you they can.
$ Abbreviation
Single $ is one (1) to 9 (9) US dollars for drinks, tips, chips and e.t.c.
Double $$ is 10 to 99 US dollars for play
Triple $$$ 100 to 999 US dollars for unlimited single play
Quad $$$$ 1000 to 9999 US dollars for group party or single party for long time.
For example:
One double Max ($$) at HK or AB is worth atleast three (3) SW
One Triple Max ($$$) is few at HK and a lot of SW (30).
One Quad Max ($$$$) everyone in the house is happy.
[QUOTE=Sgt Perv]I would respond but even though I am completely sober, I am so confused , I have no idea what the hell you are trying to say or imply.
All the $ signs are not helping.
Am I the only one here that really cannot understand what he is trying to convey with his post?[/QUOTE]
Safety standard set by FDA, DMV, CDC and other agencies for drinking.
How much alcohol by volume will exceed the 08 mg per dl limit?
About 1-2 beers if you weigh 100lbs 2-4 beers if your 200lbs
[QUOTE=Efjayel]Yeah, I guess I always knew that. I preffer to get to know the chica before going upstairs and to do so, I HAVE TO buy them a drink so I get the chance to get a feel of them and feel them up as well. lol.
Have a conversation and view body language. Those are good indicators of how they will perform upstairs. Although most new girls I try out are already dragging me upstairs before they finish their drinks. Only two or three sips at the most.
They are being watched as well when spending their time with you. I've had girls who I was having a great conversation with just get up and leave after being signaled by someone working at the club. One girl did this before she even finished her drink. When I talked to her later, she told me she got in trouble because she was spending too much time with me and not going upstairs or ordering more drinks. They obviously enforce a time limit for each drink.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Sound7]$ Abbreviation
Single $ is one (1) to 9 (9) US dollars for drinks, tips, chips and e.t.c.
Double $$ is 10 to 99 US dollars for play
Triple $$$ 100 to 999 US dollars for unlimited single play
Quad $$$$ 1000 to 9999 US dollars for group party or single party for long time.
For example:
One double Max ($$) at HK or AB is worth atleast three (3) SW
One Triple Max ($$$) is few at HK and a lot of SW (30).
One Quad Max ($$$$) everyone in the house is happy.[/QUOTE]
Guys, I don't know why your wasting your money on the girls' drinks. I have been to this club (HK), Adelitas and travel annuallly to Asia. I never buy any girl a drink. I find the one I want, negotiate and go have some fun. If she wants a drink let her buy it herself with the money you gave her. I ignore the stupid house policy to buy drinks and I have never been thrown out for it.
[QUOTE=D Cups]Guys, I don't know why your wasting your money on the girls' drinks. I have been to this club (HK), Adelitas and travel annuallly to Asia. I never buy any girl a drink. I find the one I want, negotiate and go have some fun. If she wants a drink let her buy it herself with the money you gave her. I ignore the stupid house policy to buy drinks and I have never been thrown out for it.[/QUOTE]Some guys like to just talk with the chicas. Some guys go there just to watch/ say they were there and have no intention of sampling the goods.
I was pointing out what the real deal is with the "drinks".
I agree with you mostly but one drink does, sometimes, sort of pay for itself by lowering the price in negotiation process (ex. paying 500mxn instead of 600mxn)
More then one drink, it is your money just have your eyes wide open.
[QUOTE=Sound 7]$ Abbreviation
Single $ is one (1) to 9 (9) US dollars for drinks, tips, chips and e.t.c.
Double $$ is 10 to 99 US dollars for play [/QUOTE]Here are the real abbreviations DO NOT try to change them.
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You mentioned safety concern as VOA .08%.
When I mentioned customer safety concern with husband/boyfriends I was talking about jealous fighting or arguing. That is why the are not allowed in the clubs along with the chicas act different.
[QUOTE=Balto1]I think I would call bs on the drink quota they are just trying to get the most out of you they can.[/QUOTE]
I doubt it. The chica that told me the drink quota is one that I've come to now pretty closely. And she knows that I always buy her only one drink before going upstairs so it wasn't like she told me so I'd feel obligated to buy her another.
[QUOTE=Sound7]$ Abbreviation
Single $ is one (1) to 9 (9) US dollars for drinks, tips, chips and e.t.c.
Double $$ is 10 to 99 US dollars for play...[/QUOTE]
How about you use [b]actual[/b] numbers instead so everybody can understand?
[QUOTE=D Cups]Guys, I don't know why your wasting your money on the girls' drinks. I have been to this club (HK), Adelitas and travel annuallly to Asia. I never buy any girl a drink. I find the one I want, negotiate and go have some fun. If she wants a drink let her buy it herself with the money you gave her. I ignore the stupid house policy to buy drinks and I have never been thrown out for it.[/QUOTE]
I have been thrown out for it. And like Corporal Perv said, some guys like to talk to the girl and spend time with them before going upstairs. I find your method as a greater risk of going up with a mechanical girl. But if you don't mind it then great. Save yourself a few bucks. Otherwise find a girl who is sure to give you a great session each time and arrange to meet her when you get there.
I thought my screen was upside down, so many numbers, math,
symbols, abbreviation. Jeez let me go get my Excedrin Migraine LOL!
Some one here needs to wrap in quote tags!
[quote=efjayel]
i have been thrown out for it. and like corporal perv said, some guys like to talk to the girl and spend time with them before going upstairs. i find your method as a greater risk of going up with a mechanical girl. but if you don't mind it then great. save yourself a few bucks. otherwise find a girl who is sure to give you a great session each time and arrange to meet her when you get there.[/quote]
you got thrown out for not buying chica drinks or a drink for yourself? i know they want you to be drinking and not just looking at the girls so if i'm not wanting a drink i'll tell the mesero the gets me at the door i'll be right back after i go to the bathroom and on crowded nights at ab or hk i can go a long time without having to buy a drink (until i actually want one). and i'll keep the bottle with me as i roam through the bar so as not to always be asked if i want another drink. if i've switched to water bottles i'll wrap it in a napkin to continue the ruse.
almost all of the girls i have a drink with will just get jugo. yes, it is some expensive orange or grapefruit juice i'm buying, but as has been said below, i'm buying her time. of course some chicas will get just a shot of tequila or whiskey. sometimes these girls turn out to be the funnest (they'll hang out the same amount of time as if they were drinking something... the ones that do the shot and immediately want another are there to fleece and i'll let her go right away)
the reason why i'll buy an ab or hk girl a drink is to get her vibe. if she swallows the drink in one second she'll probably be the same way upstairs. if she's staring off into space and not being friendly i'm guessing she'll be the same way upstairs. if she's grabbing my crotch and encouraging me to sample her naughty bits i know she'll probably not be a dead fish upstairs. i don't do it all the time, but the money spent on the one girl drink has helped me avoid crappy sessions.
Exactly Uber Cat.
And yeah, it was for not buying a drink for myself why I was kicked out. I understand if I'm sitting down using up a table, I'm required to buy a drink. But it's happened when I was standing around because of large crowds and no seats. And yet, none of the other guys standing around me where holding drinks nor being bothered to buy drinks. But yet they force me to buy a drink. I was like "screw that!" So the waiter was like, "No screw you, gtfo!" So I left.*
*Those exact words where not used but it was pretty similar.
[QUOTE=Efjayel]Exactly Uber Cat.
And yeah, it was for not buying a drink for myself why I was kicked out. I understand if I'm sitting down using up a table, I'm required to buy a drink. But it's happened when I was standing around because of large crowds and no seats. And yet, none of the other guys standing around me where holding drinks nor being bothered to buy drinks. But yet they force me to buy a drink. I was like "screw that!" So the waiter was like, "No screw you, gtfo!" So I left.*
*Those exact words where not used but it was pretty similar.[/QUOTE]
Would you expect to go to a lap dance club in the USA without paying a cover charge or buying a drink? A mandatory 1 drink minimum isn't much to ask for all of the eye candy at HK. I'm glad they don't allow a bunch of looky-Lou's hanging around without buying a drink as the place is too crowded much of the time already. You can buy water if you don't care for beer but anyone who hangs in one spot for more than a minute is required to buy something. No different than any club in the USA unless you are sitting with others who are making purchases.
Has any one has had success with this negotiation at these rate in mxn (peso) at HK or AB this week? Dollar quote is what I hear at HK. Should one be pressing
for mxn transaction for cost saving? Pays for the extra water, beer, or tips.
1 USD = 13 mxn
HKor AB in Mxn?
[QUOTE=Sgt Perv]ex. paying 500mxn instead of 600mxn[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Efjayel]And yeah, it was for not buying a drink for myself why I was kicked out. I understand if I'm sitting down using up a table, I'm required to buy a drink.[/QUOTE]A business people to make money.
They rent the building, pay utilities, buy alcohol, clean the place and hire help to entertain paying customers.
They try to insure the best possible experience for the customers and the staff. If you walk in and just stand there, you are blocking the total view of paying customers and the staff. Everyone has to walk around you. If it is crowded, it is even a worse effect.
Attempt to buy something or leave within a minute. You do not need 5 minutes to decide.
It is a business to make money not just entertain you.
They rent the building, [b]you need to rent your space in that building [/b]. That is fair. If you just want to stare at chicas for free. Walk the alley.
Mongers not respecting their business (renting their space) is why they have cover charges.
Cover charge is an extra pain for the management but it improves the inside environment for all concerned.
[QUOTE=Efjayel]Exactly Uber Cat.
And yeah, it was for not buying a drink for myself why I was kicked out. I understand if I'm sitting down using up a table, I'm required to buy a drink. But it's happened when I was standing around because of large crowds and no seats. And yet, none of the other guys standing around me where holding drinks nor being bothered to buy drinks. But yet they force me to buy a drink. I was like "screw that!" So the waiter was like, "No screw you, gtfo!" So I left.*
*Those exact words where not used but it was pretty similar.[/QUOTE]
I buy water and carry it around drinking and buy another at some point. I think they are pretty laid back about their drink policy and are generally very courteous. And a $1 tip is cheap for playing grab ass.
[QUOTE=Sound7]Has any one has had success with this negotiation at these rate in mxn (peso) at HK or AB this week? Dollar quote is what I hear at HK. Should one be pressing for mxn transaction for cost saving? Pays for the extra water, beer, or tips.
1 USD = 13 mxn
HKor AB in Mxn?[/QUOTE]Been discussed in length and your decimals are off a few places.
Move them to the right two places.
Pay with what you want, it is your money.
When the zona moves out of Mexico they may will no longer accept pesos.
They ask for the currency they believe you have.
[QUOTE=Efjayel]Exactly Uber Cat.
And yeah, it was for not buying a drink for myself why I was kicked out. I understand if I'm sitting down using up a table, I'm required to buy a drink. But it's happened when I was standing around because of large crowds and no seats. And yet, none of the other guys standing around me where holding drinks nor being bothered to buy drinks. But yet they force me to buy a drink. I was like "screw that!" So the waiter was like, "No screw you, gtfo!" So I left.*
*Those exact words where not used but it was pretty similar.[/QUOTE]
Half of the posters on this board are SUCH TIGHT ASSES. Just buy a fucking drink dude. Whats the problem?
Hardly anyone talkes about ACTUALLY tapping ass... It's all "the waiters are dicks and the chicas drink too fast." Thats why I don't post on here and have turned to other boards where people actually have a good time....
CC
[QUOTE=Cobra Comander]Hardly anyone talkes about ACTUALLY tapping ass... It's all "the waiters are dicks and the chicas drink too fast." Thats why I don't post on here and have turned to other boards where people actually have a good time....CC[/QUOTE]I understand you want to hear about the final end of the game.
The first 3 quarters of the game are very important to the final results.
Talking about the rules and how to play the first 3 quarters make for a better 4th.
Mongers need to know the whole game not just about the final results in order to improve their own game.
Most times I enjoy the strategy of the first three quarters.
When you know or have a good idea of what is going on all around you, it makes for a much better overall experience.
Your experience can be stopped or ruined even before you get to the room.
Nobody wants to get fucked before they get laid.
lol, you are being an ass.
I walked in and stopped to watch for not more than 15 seconds before I was approached to buy a drink. And 10 seconds later I was being forced out. I don't believe I was there long enough to warrant having to buy a drink. The time I do choose to buy a drink it's because I like what I see so I decide to stay and enjoy the sights and pay my part by renting a space by buying a drink. But if I have to buy a drink for every bar I walk into simply to scope out the action I would have already wasted enough money to take a girl or two upstairs. It's not so much about being a "tight ass" but having limited money. After all I'm not rich.
And oh yeah, these boards where not put here to compete against other boards. If you prefer the other boards, then go back to them and have your good time and let us talk about what we want to talk about.
[QUOTE=Sgt Perv]I understand you want to hear about the final end of the game.
The first 3 quarters of the game are very important to the final results.
Talking about the rules and how to play the first 3 quarters make for a better 4th.
Mongers need to know the whole game not just about the final results in order to improve their own game.
Most times I enjoy the strategy of the first three quarters.
When you know or have a good idea of what is going on all around you, it makes for a much better overall experience.
Your experience can be stopped or ruined even before you get to the room.
Nobody wants to get fucked before they get laid.[/QUOTE]
Sgt Perv is a man of fine words!
On the opposite side we have Ravo Verde LOL!
HK has a very aggressive drink promotion policy. One has to have a clear game plan from the start to address it head-on without the help of HK PML.
Bottle water is safe.
It's still expensive. Bottled water goes for 3.50 plus tip. I tip $1 dollar. So that's like already $5 bucks! And it's funny cause the first few times I went to Tj I didn't think buying bottled water was expensive. And I would try a few bars so before I knew it I'd be down like $30 bucks just on water alone since the bars don't allow you to walk in holding water from another bar. That's already half the money I could use to take a girl upstairs.
[QUOTE=Efjayel]It's still expensive. Bottled water goes for 3.50 plus tip. I tip $1 dollar. So that's like already $5 bucks! And it's funny cause the first few times I went to Tijuana I didn't think buying bottled water was expensive. And I would try a few bars so before I knew it I'd be down like $30 bucks just on water alone since the bars don't allow you to walk in holding water from another bar. That's already half the money I could use to take a girl upstairs.[/QUOTE]Let us think about this small part of your experience.
You bought a drink to rent your space. Cool, you are supposed to help keep the place open.
You tipped a dollar US.
Do you always tip about 30% of your bills? Man, you are rich!
Fair is about 10%-20% depending on what they do for you.
Bringing you a drink is nothing extra special. You can go to the bar and get your own when you first walk in to the bar.
Your 50 cent change should be fair.
It is not like you have to dig for change.
If you have them running around for you, like getting chicas, then you should tip more.
For just a drink why tip more?
Are you worrying that he will not ask you if you want another drink quick enough? Wrong!
Are you worrying that if a chica comes to your table he will ignore you? Wrong! Are you afraid of being cheap? Wrong!
That is still good money to the locals.
Why not use 5 and 10 peso coin for tipping?
7 tips for whatever = free drink (rental space in a bar).
You can save enough on tipping [and still tip (staff needs money too)] to pay for a drink.
For a quick dip in and out of the zona it is a little amount but still a drink's worth (waiters and cum boys).
For those of us who stay for days, it is an alley chicas worth plus.
You can call me cheap but I am fair to the people. I am not trying to impress them with fake riches and ruin my potential bargaining power.
When in Tijuana, I allot for $300 US a day max. I always convert to Mxn
To some that is nothing but to others that is a lot to spend. To me it is a lot of money. But, for whatever your allotment is, get the most for it that you can and still be relaxed (haggling can wear you out sometimes) and fair.
None of this effects what happens in the room.
If you feel I am wrong, please answer me one little question.
What is it exactly that you do not like about your money?
[QUOTE=Efjayel]It's still expensive. Bottled water goes for 3.50 plus tip. I tip $1 dollar. So that's like already $5 bucks![/QUOTE]Real quick example of one game plan (for conversation only).
Convert the US $5 to MXN.
That give you about 66 pesos.
Buy your water for about 45 pesos and tip the waiter 5 pesos.
Feel up the dancer and tip her 10 pesos.
You have about 6 pesos left.
You get a extra feel in the deal. ;)
You have rented your space,tipped twice ,felt a chica and still have your change.
Be smart with your money ,whatever the amount.
Efjayel ,I am trying to help you in a good way.
[QUOTE=Efjayel]It's still expensive. Bottled water goes for 3.50 plus tip. I tip $1 dollar. So that's like already $5 bucks! And it's funny cause the first few times I went to Tj I didn't think buying bottled water was expensive. And I would try a few bars so before I knew it I'd be down like $30 bucks just on water alone since the bars don't allow you to walk in holding water from another bar. That's already half the money I could use to take a girl upstairs.[/QUOTE]
#1 Use pesos
#2 if you are going to be bar hopping, don't buy a drink in every bar, but also, don't stand around, moving target is harder to hit. If you just want to see what is going on, do a loop around the place, and don't give the waiters a chance to get a word out.
#3 sparkling water is a great drink to save with because the can of Ciel is not transparent and the pinche waiter has no clue if it is empty, just keep it in hand empty or not.
#4 US$1 is too much of a tip (IMHO). I make it a point to bring a pocket full of change and tip everyone, a quarter here, 5 pesos there, 75cents for the cum mopers, US$1 is for the waiter who gets my favorita off of your lap and brings her over to my table!
#5 learn to speak more spanish
[QUOTE=Pablito Diablito]#1 Use pesos
#4 US$1 is too much of a tip (IMHO). I make it a point to bring a pocket full of change and tip everyone, a quarter here, 5 pesos there, 75cents for the cum mopers, US$1 is for the waiter who gets my favorita off of your lap and brings her over to my table![/QUOTE]Great minds think alike.
[QUOTE=Pablito Diablito]#1 Use pesos
#2 if you are going to be bar hopping, don't buy a drink in every bar, but also, don't stand around, moving target is harder to hit. If you just want to see what is going on, do a loop around the place, and don't give the waiters a chance to get a word out.
#3 sparkling water is a great drink to save with because the can of Ciel is not transparent and the pinche waiter has no clue if it is empty, just keep it in hand empty or not.
#4 US$1 is too much of a tip (IMHO). I make it a point to bring a pocket full of change and tip everyone, a quarter here, 5 pesos there, 75cents for the cum mopers, US$1 is for the waiter who gets my favorita off of your lap and brings her over to my table!
#5 learn to speak more spanish[/QUOTE]
Exactly. By using pesos, you'll save about $8 per every $100 in the Zona. Also, if a waiter hassles you for a drink, just say "Espera. Un momento." and walk around. You won't get kicked out.
The HK waiters are [b]THE WORST cheats in the Zona[/b]. Until you show enough to gain some measure of respect, all but a few will cheat you left and right with a grin on their face. You need to know how much you should get charged and how much change you'll get back. Otherwise, you're suceptable to all the "Hide the change" games (coins on the rim, incorrect change, wrong bills, mostly coins in change, change under the rags, etc).
These waiters think you are the "Stupid Gringo" who is using pesos but has no idea how to count because it's too complicated for the simple gringo mind. And they laugh all night at the gringos that are buying fichas when the same waiters bang a girl or two for free after hours.
Watch out for anything left on the tables, the waiters have sticky fingers and will steal anything off the table when they are "rearranging" the drinks, taking half drunk fichas.
Also, if you think you look cheap to a girl catching a waiter cheating you, it's the opposite. A guy who allows themselves to get cheated is weak in their eyes, and opens the door for her to cheat you on service or terms. Just wait to see how quickly a girl will tear into a restaurant waitress, taxi driver or street vendor if she gets cheated on her change.
Also, the owners of HK also own Tropical and Chavelas. At least before, if you had a bottle of water from HK you could walk into Tropical or Chavelas with it.
[QUOTE=Alguem]Exactly. By using pesos, you'll save about $8 per every $100 in the Zona. [/QUOTE]Overall it could be closer to $20US depending on what your buying( considering tips too).
[QUOTE=Alguem]Also, if you think you look cheap to a girl catching a waiter cheating you, it's the opposite. A guy who allows themselves to get cheated is weak in their eyes, and opens the door for her to cheat you on service or terms. Just wait to see how quickly a girl will tear into a restaurant waitress, taxi driver or street vendor if she gets cheated on her change. [/QUOTE]Exactly, you lose your bargaining power.
Activity: Cost/Time Log
HK Entrance: One drink beer ($4), no tip
5 to 10 minutes HK water $3:50
1) Subtotal 8 to 9 dollars @ 15 to 20 minutes
Fischa Drink $7 to 8 + tip @ 25 min
La Bella $ 11 to 21 @ 30 min
Arriba $60 @ 60 minutes
2) HK Exit $99 (9 + 9 + 21 + 60)
Taxi Round trip $10 - 20 minutes
Border crossing from 15 to 40 minutes depending on the time.
3) Welcome to USA past CBP - 2 hour later $ 109 USD spent/HK - 1 hour
$30 could be as low as 27% or high as 80 % of the total HK cost based on choices.
[QUOTE=Efjayel]It's still expensive. Bottled water goes for 3.50 plus tip. I tip $1 dollar. So that's like already $5 bucks! And it's funny cause the first few times I went to Tj I didn't think buying bottled water was expensive. And I would try a few bars so before I knew it I'd be down like $30 bucks just on water alone since the bars don't allow you to walk in holding water from another bar. That's already half the money I could use to take a girl upstairs.[/QUOTE]
Those who do not believe you can use peso in the bar, check out the link Belgrath just posted today at 'Tijuana Reports". Right at the exact 4 min mark it shows the drink prices. 3.50 dll (US) or 42 pesos.
You save 36 cent (5 pesos) per beer, which is your waiter tip.
You have $1.50 or 20 pesos that can be used to feel up two dancers while you drink it.
$5 US spent ,one drink,waiter tip and two dancers felt up. A fine day to be in the zona. lol
Try that in the USA. I know many that you would not even get in the door for $5.
[QUOTE=Sound7]Activity: Cost/Time Log
HK Entrance: One drink beer ($4), no tip
5 to 10 minutes HK water $3:50
1) Subtotal 8 to 9 dollars @ 15 to 20 minutes
Fischa Drink $7 to 8 + tip @ 25 min
La Bella $ 11 to 21 @ 30 min
Arriba $60 @ 60 minutes
2) HK Exit $99 (9 + 9 + 21 + 60) [/QUOTE]At the club I was at we would have gave a guy like you the VIP treatment.
Very Ignorant Patron ( clubs have a sense of humor).
Reserved for those who spend to much for to little.
Missed all peso discounts ,no bargains.
You guys better quit and post something about tapping something ass or whatever otherwise you gonna get CC pissed again LOL!
Since the peso drop, I've used pesos almost exclusively. I also enjoy this discussion about tipping and money management.
One thing, however, is tipping the girls 10 pesos. Since the demise of the 10 peso note, all that's left are the coins. Do you still tip the chicas in peso coins? I've been carrying some $1 bills just for that purpose (Easier to carry, easy to slip into a g-string or a bra cup). Any chica resistance to the coins? I'd rather use them instead of $1 bills.
[QUOTE=HornyTraveler]You guys better quit and post something about tapping something ass or whatever otherwise you gonna get CC pissed again LOL![/QUOTE]
Good call HT!
No, but everyone has good points. I don't wanna restate what has already been said but all of you are pretty much on the same page as I am. I ONLY use pesos and spend FAR less money in the long run than I did when I used dollars.
My point was that there is alot of BS chit chat about nonsense most of the time rather than trip reports. I generally DON'T post because it usually isn't very exciting and/or I am keeping the girls info to myself until I am DONE with her. Some of you have seen my posts on TJA.
To each his own...
You can go back to your in depth discussion of chip scams and other assorted waiter hijinks now.
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[QUOTE=Sgt Perv]
What is it exactly that you do not like about your money?[/QUOTE]
Spending it.
You guys really think $1 tip for a drink is too much? I kind of figured it as the minimum for a tip without looking like a tight ass.
[QUOTE=Pablito Diablito]#1 Use pesos
#2 if you are going to be bar hopping, don't buy a drink in every bar, but also, don't stand around, moving target is harder to hit. If you just want to see what is going on, do a loop around the place, and don't give the waiters a chance to get a word out.
#3 sparkling water is a great drink to save with because the can of Ciel is not transparent and the pinche waiter has no clue if it is empty, just keep it in hand empty or not.
#4 US$1 is too much of a tip (IMHO). I make it a point to bring a pocket full of change and tip everyone, a quarter here, 5 pesos there, 75cents for the cum mopers, US$1 is for the waiter who gets my favorita off of your lap and brings her over to my table!
#5 learn to speak more spanish[/QUOTE]
1. I probably should but I hate having to exchange money and then doing the conversion math.
2. Yeah I learned my lesson. I don't stick around in one place and keep moving. And if anyone bothers me I just tell them I'm looking for a friend. They don't bother me after that.
3. I order bottled water. But I rarely ever finish them. Many times I never even open them. And each time the waiters come near me to get a good look at the bottle since they can't tell from a distance that it's empy.
4. I dont know, I would think giving coin change as a tip makes me look cheap. But Cadet Perv has a point. Giving less than a dollar might insult them but won't stop them from serving me.
5. I do know spanish. Very well in fact. Really helpful when chatting up the ladies. :D
[QUOTE=Efjayel]Spending it.
You guys really think $1 tip for a drink is too much? I kind of figured it as the minimum for a tip without looking like a tight ass.[/QUOTE]Then quit spending so much of your money.
They are TIPS no real min.
Are you looking for VIP status?
Are you worried that if they perceive you as watching your money that they will not put you on the top of their list of "people to try to scam"?[QUOTE]1. I probably should but I hate having to exchange money and then doing the conversion math.[/QUOTE]Easy fix! Make and carry a conversion card with you.
Small ,yet big type, half an index card.
Conversion of $1$3 $5 $10 $30 $40 $60
I understand for you doing math in the zona, it is dangerous.
People seeing you count to 25 might misunderstand you.
I mean, standing there in the zona barefoot with your tongue and pecker out so that you can use your fingers,toes, ears, nose and pecker. It does look bad.
[QUOTE=Phordphan] Do you still tip the chicas in peso coins? I've been carrying some $1 bills just for that purpose (Easier to carry, easy to slip into a g-string or a bra cup). Any chica resistance to the coins? I'd rather use them instead of $1 bills.[/QUOTE]A chica turning down money, surely you jest.
Chicas will always want more.
I show what I am offering first (very important), they always take it.
It is not so much what you do as it is how you do it.
I do not show any US currency ever in the zona, they take MXN or nothing.
If I have to break a large bill, I go to a shop/store (buy pack of gum) or to the bartender.
NEVER the waiter. I am not giving him an opening to scam me.
[QUOTE=Cobra Comander] I generally DON'T post because it usually isn't very exciting and/or I am keeping the girls info to myself until I am DONE with her. [/QUOTE]What is up with this?
You complain that others do not post what you will not post.
Bad monger !
Some services are freebies with TLC for VIPs at HK and some basic service are rip-off for VIPs at HK. TLC (Tender Loving Care) for some HK VIPs.
Not having timely information about structure, currency exchange or clubs in general would make one less ignorant anywhere in the world.
VIP: No bargains, over priced, poor service?, repeat? and club advantage. LOL HK Staff & ISG members. Learning process which can be painful in come cases.
[QUOTE=Sgt Perv]At the club I was at we would have gave a guy like you the VIP treatment.
Very Ignorant Patron ( clubs have a sense of humor).
Reserved for those who spend to much for to little.
Missed all peso discounts ,no bargains.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Efjayel]Spending it.
You guys really think $1 tip for a drink is too much? I kind of figured it as the minimum for a tip without looking like a tight ass.
[/QUOTE]
Minimum for a tip in the US, specifically in San Diego and Los Angeles is a dollar. Now contrast Hollywood to Tijuana. On the shady side of Tijuana I would tip about half of what I would tip in LA. Now as a rule always has exceptions, when you do find a responsible waiter that does not give you a hard time, hook him up. Reward good waiter behavior, but don't let him be a dick and then give him the equivalent of almost 14 pesos PLUS whatever else he has stolen from you in shortchange. The TJ locals don't tip US$1 for every drink. It is a matter of blending into the local culture...when in Rome...
But, you should always tip. I try to always tip the bathroom guy at least 2 pesos. Kids on the street, some nickels and pennies. try and through a handful of change in your pockets before you leave next time and spread the love around, and clean out your car's change tray. Nickels and pennies don't mean much to you, but to that guy with no arms dancing in the border line it is the difference between eating or not.
Oh, I would not recommend giving the dancers change, that does look tacky. Stick to the US one dollar mark there, unless you come across some $2s, the girls love them and think they are lucky.
[QUOTE=Pablito Diablito] On the shady side of Tijuana I would tip about half of what I would tip in LA. Reward good waiter behavior, but don't let him be a dick and then give him the equivalent of almost 14 pesos PLUS whatever else he has stolen from you in shortchange. The Tijuana locals don't tip US$1 for every drink. It is a matter of blending into the local culture. When in Rome.
But, you should always tip. I try to always tip the bathroom guy at least 2 pesos. Kids on the street, some nickels and pennies. Try and through a handful of change in your pockets before you leave next time and spread the love around, and clean out your car's change tray. Nickels and pennies don't mean much to you, but to that guy with no arms dancing in the border line it is the difference between eating or not.[/QUOTE]You are not being cheap you are tipping.
My loose coins I give to the needy.
Nothing wrong with doing a little humanitarian work while visiting, it is good for your soul.
I do not want to see anyone starve when I can hand them coins that if I dropped I may not stop to pick up.
We are human and so are they.
I really hope your post are either because English is not you first language or they are drug/alcohol related, I could understand.
I would hate to think they are natural normal thoughts.
[QUOTE=Sound7]Some services are freebies with TLC for VIPs at HK and some basic service are rip-off for VIPs at HK. TLC (Tender Loving Care) for some HK VIPs. [/QUOTE]It is a business.
Nothing is free, you either have or will pay for it.
[QUOTE=Sound7]Not having timely information about structure, currency exchange or clubs in general would make one less ignorant anywhere in the world.
VIP: No bargains, over priced, poor service?, repeat? and club advantage. LOL HK Staff & ISG members. Learning process which can be painful in come cases.[/QUOTE]
1.) It does not make you less ignorant, it makes you less informed.
That is why we talk about thing to correct the situation.
Ignorance will shine through no matter how informed you are.
2.) If learning process is painful in"come" cases...see a doctor asap.
One U$ dollar is right to tip, anything less you look cheap to the waiter and the girl your sitting with.
I buy a few beers and water and my total at the end of the trip is about $5-10 in tips to the bar and another $5 for the cumboys for 3x visit.
Always remember to keep the waiter happy so he stays off your back it works for me!
[QUOTE=HornyTraveler]One U$ dollar is right to tip, anything less you look cheap to the waiter and the girl your sitting with.
I buy a few beers and water and my total at the end of the trip is about $5-10 in tips to the bar and another $5 for the cumboys for 3x visit.
Always remember to keep the waiter happy so he stays off your back it works for me![/QUOTE]Well yes, if you order a drink for a chica too, you should tip more than if it is just your beer. One dollar or 10 peso is right.
Cum boy is 10 pesos, I have seen many a men toss them a coin (that is how I learned).
You have to have some MXN for it to work.
What do you think would happen if:
Two guys (equal in appearance and manner) walk into a bar at same time.
They sit close but different tables.
Man 1 tips waiter $1 US for beer.
Man 2 tips waiter 5 pesos for beer.
Each man then has a chica sit with them.
Man 1 orders her a mixed drink and a shot , tips waiter $2.
Man 2 orders his chica a beer , tips waiter 10 pesos.
Man 1 has spent more and is using USD, man 2 spent half as much as man 1 and is using MXN.
Both men have been in club same length of time
Who you think the waiter will be bothering more for another drink?
Who do you think will have the best chance at negotiations with the chica ?
My buddies have played this out and then later (another time) switched roles(mainly for entertainment with a $20 bet on if it would matter).
I watched in the bar to verify.
Found out that the US money man had a hard road to plow.
Waiter and chica saw money and wanted more.
Waiter would walk past man 2 to hassle man 1.
Chica for man 1 was more steadfast on her price.
Once in the room it did not seem to matter.
Both men got what they wanted but one payed more and hassled more.
Food for thought.
Converting $100 USD results in 1300 peso ( give or take 50 pesos) in 13 x 100's peso notes amd thank good it is not in 50's 26 x 50's. Lot of bulk to carry. Lucky if one has 500's or 1000's.
Being a good negotiator that is where the advantage lies and acting like a local. 30% to 40 % saving with no tips (a local).
Good language command with decent dialect, local looks and confidence in a particular situation. Savings !
TJA ?
[QUOTE=Cobra Comander]Good call HT!
No, but everyone has good points. I don't wanna restate what has already been said but all of you are pretty much on the same page as I am. I ONLY use pesos and spend FAR less money in the long run than I did when I used dollars.
My point was that there is alot of BS chit chat about nonsense most of the time rather than trip reports. I generally DON'T post because it usually isn't very exciting and/or I am keeping the girls info to myself until I am DONE with her. Some of you have seen my posts on TJA.
To each his own...
You can go back to your in depth discussion of chip scams and other assorted waiter hijinks now.
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[QUOTE=Sound7]Converting $100 USD results in 1300 peso ( give or take 50 pesos) in 13 x 100's peso notes amd thank good it is not in 50's 26 x 50's. Lot of bulk to carry. Lucky if one has 500's or 1000's.
Being a good negotiator that is where the advantage lies and acting like a local. 30% to 40 % saving with no tips (a local).
Good language command with decent dialect, local looks and confidence in a particular situation. Savings !
TJA ?[/QUOTE]
Check your inbox.
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[QUOTE=Sgt Perv]A chica turning down money, surely you jest.
Chicas will always want more.
I show what I am offering first (very important), they always take it.
It is not so much what you do as it is how you do it.
I do not show any US currency ever in the zona, they take MXN or nothing.
If I have to break a large bill, I go to a shop/store (buy pack of gum) or to the bartender.
NEVER the waiter. I am not giving him an opening to scam me.[/QUOTE]
Going to the bartender and tipping him $1, for changing your big bill, is a good idea. A waiter and girl tried to hustle me for a girl drink that I didn't agree to buying. He was pretty emphatic, I should pay, even though the girl had left, when he got back. I just took him to the bartender and that was that. I tip everyone and I'm not cheap but don't like to be hustled.
[QUOTE=Sgt Perv]A chica turning down money, surely you jest.
Chicas will always want more.
I show what I am offering first (very important), they always take it.
It is not so much what you do as it is how you do it.
I do not show any US currency ever in the zona, they take MXN or nothing.
If I have to break a large bill, I go to a shop/store (buy pack of gum) or to the bartender.
NEVER the waiter. I am not giving him an opening to scam me.[/QUOTE]
Good points all, and I agree with all of your reasonings, except for giving money to beggars.
But I'm wondering where the HK chicas keep all those coins! :) Most are rather scantily clad. I see many with a sheaf of dollar bills tucked into a waistband, but none seem to have the facilities to handle coins. So, when you slip 'em a 10p coin for a grope, where do they put it? Enquiring minds, and all that!
[QUOTE=Phordphan] except for giving money to beggars.
So, when you slip 'em a 10p coin for a grope, where do they put it? Enquiring minds, and all that![/QUOTE]1)Giving to the beggars is not what I said.
Those asshole adults [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] me off, once you give, they keep asking.
If you give one kid money then the rest attack you for some more.
I said needy, I walk around and I see them (disabled).
2)I hand her a the coin in her hand ( I actually have some old 10 peso bill but I keep them (2) at home).
I started with the 10 peso bills but those are gone, 10 pesos is 10 pesos.
I show her the coin first. It is money and they take it.
I am not sure what they do with it, they figure it out.
They figured out what to do with the bills.
If the 10 peso was worth more the $1 US you would see them carry little coin purses attached/held in a sexy way or a jar/hat/bucket on stage.
I am not the only one to use coins but if they had a purse more would do it and they know that.
They want to get as much as they can from you.
I will stop using the coins when chicas turn them down (never is my bet).
Can you imagine a chica saying 'No thank you, I have no where to put it. Just keep it.'
It is not my fault they did away with the 10 peso bill. I spend MXN. and I am not tipping 20 pesos.
[QUOTE=HornyTraveler]
Always remember to keep the waiter happy so he stays off your back it works for me![/QUOTE]
THE waiter? Since when is there only one? The waiters have no sense of a section, or could care less about poaching someone else's table. By this logic you are going to be handing out ones to the entire waiter mafia for what you perceive to be protection. 10pesos MAX, unless you know the guy and you want to hook him up, but as a general rule US$1 tip is too much. Throwing money around only makes you look like a target.
Using USD:
Chica session negotiations used are about $50,$55,$60.
$5 and $10 room extra Tips.
$1 for cumboy. $12 room.
Using MXN :
Chica session negotiations used are (in pesos) 650 ,700,750,800 (650 is slightly under $50 and 800 Is slightly under $60).
50 and 100 pesos for room extras tips.
10 peso cum boy. 150 pesos room.
The difference is more steps in the negotiations for more savings.
You should at the least ,depending on your bargaining results ( should be more), save enough for another beer.
Combine this part with the other in bar savings and it does add up.
This is just walk in the bar order a drink and take a chica up stairs [b] one[/b] time.
Yes I play the dumb gringo card until deal is in my favor sometimes (meaning I let them think I believe it is a 10:1 conversion like last time I was there (he he). " I always paid 500-600 pesos for a session last time").
What I do depends on the chica just like what they try depends on me.
[QUOTE=Cobra Comander]Check your inbox.
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Did you forget about the 200 peso bill? Those are real handy for SGs.
[QUOTE=Sound7]Converting $100 USD results in 1300 peso ( give or take 50 pesos) in 13 x 100's peso notes amd thank good it is not in 50's 26 x 50's. Lot of bulk to carry. Lucky if one has 500's or 1000's.
Being a good negotiator that is where the advantage lies and acting like a local. 30% to 40 % saving with no tips (a local).
Good language command with decent dialect, local looks and confidence in a particular situation. Savings !
TJA ?[/QUOTE]
As noted below 200 peso notes are handy for SGs. Never had experience with 1000 peso note.
For the record I think 50 cents is PLENTY (16%) to tip the waiters on a $3.50 drink. If they complain I take the 2 quarters back from their tray!
Back to HK, the lineup this weekend was the worst I have ever seen at HK. AWFUL. 90% were way overweight; not merely cute chubby but I mean borderline obese. Adelitas was MUCH better. Chicago is on life support as even on Saturday night late it was scary how few customers (and girls) there were. LOADS of cute SWs however.
Despite lot of buzz about biggest ever raids on Friday, tension level on Saturday was much lower than recent months. VERY quiet on Revolution with many businesses shuttered including my ATF Tijuana restaurant La Especial (operating since the 50s but finally went under).
PS: despite new rule going into effect June 1 requiring passports or "augmented drivers licenses", I forgot mine and had no difficulty crossing back into US. You will be let back in but MIGHT get additional interrogation (I did not get any extra questions).
[QUOTE=Sgt Perv]1)Giving to the beggars is not what I said.
Those asshole adults [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] me off, once you give, they keep asking.
If you give one kid money then the rest attack you for some more.
I said needy, I walk around and I see them (disabled).
2)I hand her a the coin in her hand ( I actually have some old 10 peso bill but I keep them (2) at home).
I started with the 10 peso bills but those are gone, 10 pesos is 10 pesos.
I show her the coin first. It is money and they take it.
I am not sure what they do with it, they figure it out.
They figured out what to do with the bills.
If the 10 peso was worth more the $1 US you would see them carry little coin purses attached/held in a sexy way or a jar/hat/bucket on stage.
I am not the only one to use coins but if they had a purse more would do it and they know that.
They want to get as much as they can from you.
I will stop using the coins when chicas turn them down (never is my bet).
Can you imagine a chica saying 'No thank you, I have no where to put it. Just keep it.'
It is not my fault they did away with the 10 peso bill. I spend MXN. and I am not tipping 20 pesos.[/QUOTE]
1) Thanks for the clarificaion. I feel the same way.
2) I ran across some 10p notes the other day, in a stash of souvenir money from around the world. I miss 'em.
My mother used to tell me of some old ladies, who lived near us in Texas when I was very small. They walked around with a big chaw or big dip in their mouth, and a coffee can tied around their waist. When the time came, they'd just spit into the can and go on about their business. :eek: Maybe the chicas could adapt something like that! :D
What I will and have done for the kids is buy and give them a little basket of cubed fruit from a vendor.
It puts a smile on their face and a frown on the old lady's. I hate see them being "pimped" out to beg.
I have a soft spot for kids.
[QUOTE=Phordphan]
2) I ran across some 10p notes the other day, in a stash of souvenir money from around the world. I miss 'em.[/QUOTE]That is where I keep mine too.
[QUOTE=Phordphan] When the time came, they'd just spit into the can and go on about their business. :eek: Maybe the chicas could adapt something like that! :D[/QUOTE]Thank you !
I had a long laugh at that when I got that visual in my mind. lol
I was thinking more of a Pocahontas type thing but your idea is hilarious.
[QUOTE=Cool]As noted below 200 peso notes are handy for SGs. Never had experience with 1000 peso note.[/QUOTE]To keep the bulk down bigger bill have some advantage.
200 MXN is great for SW.
500 MXN is great for Club Arribas ( for negotiation purposes you do not want them to see a bigger bill)
1000 Mxn ($75 USD) is great for the next arriba (one of these per club aribba you plan on having) or stash money.
The 1000 MXN is the bill, I would really not trust to waiters, has to be broke down when ready to use ( recommended).
I have used at the hotels (you know like pay for the room, then pay the chica and cum boy out of the change) but once, they wanted a smaller bill. :(
Buying one of each of the three bills cost about $127 USD.
I like to have smaller bills for the waiters.
I can give them a 50 peso bill ($3.72 USD), tell them to keep the change. Built in 8 peso tip for water/beer. Easy transaction. My beer bill. lol
Even though you may think you only tipped .22 cents USD (3 pesos), actually you tipped 60 cents (8 pesos).
The club charged you 42 pesos ($3.13) for the beer not $3.50 USD. Club got less money.
100 Peso bill is a $7 chica drink with tip. Once again you pay less for the drink and waiter tip is more.
So you order a beer for you and a $7 chica drink. You hand waiter 150 pesos (about $11 USD). Waiter is tipped and no change.
You are happy, waiter is happy and the club made money.
Once you picture each bill with want it buys it is simple and waiter can not cheat you with change nor do you have to wait for him to come back
Customize the denominations to the party you plan to have with less bulk.
Oh and watch out if they try to give you change in USD.
It probably be tilted to their favor. I ask for MXN change only because it is easier to ensure my correct change.
[QUOTE=Surfer]For the record I think 50 cents is PLENTY (16%) to tip the waiters on a $3.50 drink. If they complain I take the 2 quarters back from their tray! [/QUOTE]
I agree if they think that is not much money then they will not miss it.
Bet they are happy the next time you give them 2 quarters. lol
It is one thing to spend your money but it is a whole another thing to waste it.
[QUOTE=Surfer]Back to HK, the lineup this weekend was the worst I have ever seen at HK. AWFUL. 90% were way overweight; not merely cute chubby but I mean borderline obese. Adelitas was MUCH better. Chicago is on life support as even on Saturday night late it was scary how few customers (and girls) there were. LOADS of cute SWs however.[/QUOTE]I love the streetwalkers.
More pops for the buck. lol
Great for knocking the edge off before going into HK.
Some times I find better (to me) in the alley than in HK.
My favorite for all nighters.
[QUOTE=Pablito Diablito]THE waiter? Since when is there only one?[/QUOTE]
Usually there's the same waiter for your table, if another one comes around tell him you already been taking care and they won't bother you.
This is my experience in AB I don't know the other bars.
You guys are doing it wrong if you want the waiter to leave you alone you need to tip him and he will tell the others to not approach to your table.
If your not generous then he will send the whole gang every time to force you buy a drink if you don't buy often they can throw you out.
So I save more $ by tipping the waiter instead.
Also you need to be friendly and talk to your waiter making some conversation helps too.
If you get smart at them they will always win the house is in their side no mater what!
Typical corner exchange results in 100's and 50's bulk and not the above denomination. A trip to a Mexican bank required during a certain time period of 11 am to 2 pm?
[QUOTE=Sgt Perv]To keep the bulk down bigger bill have some advantage.
200 MXN is great for SW.
500 MXN is great for Club Arribas ( for negotiation purposes you do not want them to see a bigger bill)
1000 Mxn ($75 USD) is great for the next arriba (one of these per club aribba you plan on having) or stash money.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Sound7]Typical corner exchange results in 100's and 50's bulk and not the above denomination. A trip to a Mexican bank required during a certain time period of 11 am to 2 pm?[/QUOTE]Sorry ,I have always use the bank or their ATM.
Not sure why the corner exchange would not have bigger bills if you ask/request.
Seems like it would be easier on them also.
Could it be the amount you exchange at one time?
I do about $300 and get (2) 1000,(2)500,(2)200 and the rest in the other bills and coins.
No, I do not carry them all at once (do not need to) or what I do have on me, in the same place.
One 1000 bill is easy to stash for a quick back up.
Those coins can swell up in your pocket quick if you are not careful.
I try to use them when I can.
Not at an ATM or bank.
[QUOTE=Sgt Perv]Could it be the amount you exchange at one time?
I do about $300 and get (2) 1000,(2)500,(2)200 and the rest in the other bills and coins.
No, I do not carry them all at once (do not need to) or what I do have on me, in the same place.
One 1000 bill is easy to stash for a quick back up.
Those coins can swell up in your pocket quick if you are not careful.
I try to use them when I can.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Sound7]Not at an ATM or bank.[/QUOTE]You would think that they could at the least put a 500MXN or a few 200 MXN in the mix.
I would even think coins would be better than all those bills.
Less bunky for all.
Even when it was 10:1 , was still 10x bills.
I would hate to get $200 USD exchanged. Your pockets would bulge and how would you stash/hide 1000MXN for back up ?
Just got to plan ahead or get a session real soon to flatten out your pockets. lol
LOL you guys talking about money like rich people do.
C'mon stop already with numbers and economics class!!
CC was right, what about tapping ass or some deep throat info or something more interested than currency conversions and dow jones talking.
Hey Perv, leave your pennies at home you cheapskate:D
[QUOTE=HornyTraveler]Hey Perv, leave your pennies at home you cheap:D[/QUOTE]
I am done with it. I just find it interesting.
Back to ass fucking, ball licking and facials.
Last night was New Year's Eve and Mardis Gras all rolled into one. I've never seen so many hot girls. Last weeks cop raid must have goosed it up. I came out covered with shaving cream stains. That was one great party. But for serious one on one, it's the alley, for me. Than back to HK for more stimulation. I had to reload my singles twice. That's a lot of T & A.
Hong Kong is better than any bar on Soi Cowboy, Nana or Pattaya.
HK discount the dances (La Bella) with other promotions did this happen last night. One has to ask to get the promotion package. It requires the floor manager's approval and the waiter arranges it. Was a cover charge in place for admission?
[QUOTE=JesseJames]Last night was New Year's Eve and Mardis Gras all rolled into one. I've never seen so many hot girls. Last weeks cop raid must have goosed it up. I came out covered with shaving cream stains. That was one great party. But for serious one on one, it's the alley, for me. Than back to HK for more stimulation. I had to reload my singles twice. That's a lot of T & A.
Hong Kong is better than any bar on Soi Cowboy, Nana or Pattaya.[/QUOTE]
No money...nada (nothing). No deep throat.
[QUOTE=HornyTraveler]LOL you guys talking about money like rich people do.
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Ok, not to quibble, but $0.50 tip on $3.50 is a 14% tip.
To be precise, it's .014285714 %
...just to be clear. (and I'm not trying to stir the SH*T, just pointing it out)
I've never really had any trouble in there, though. I tip a dollar, then drink at my leisure, and when they keep approaching, i just hold my hand up, shake my head at them while having eye-contact, and state "NO, gracias"...
It seems to work. Polite, but firm.
Of course, I could get thrown out on my ear/ass next time - after all, it is TJ.
LOL
***Thanks to all who post to this forum. This board is a GREAT place to do due diligence before any trip.
Dylan
[QUOTE=Surfer]For the record I think 50 cents is PLENTY (16%) to tip the waiters on a $3.50 drink. If they complain I take the 2 quarters back from their tray!
[QUOTE=Sound7]HK discount the dances (La Bella) with other promotions did this happen last night. One has to ask to get the promotion package. It requires the floor manager's approval and the waiter arranges it. Was a cover charge in place for admission?[/QUOTE]
There was no cover last night. I'm not aware of any promotions. The waiters gave out lots of paper napkins to try to wipe off the shaving cream, though. Bring your own dishcloth. It was quite a fiesta. It was a lot of fun. I'd go back tonite but I'm seeing the great Frankie Valli at Humphrey's, in SD.
HK has web promotions posted, for daily promotions ask the staff.
[url]http://www.hktijuana.com/specials.php[/url]
Print the page and clip the coupons. Taxi pick-up needs to be prearranged with HK via web.
[QUOTE=JesseJames]There was no cover last night. I'm not aware of any promotions. The waiters gave out lots of paper napkins to try to wipe off the shaving cream, though. Bring your own dishcloth. It was quite a fiesta. It was a lot of fun. I'd go back tonite but I'm seeing the great Frankie Valli at Humphrey's, in SD.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Sgt Perv]Like screwing the neighbors daughter or the babysitter.
It does have a certain appeal to it.
It is also like buying them a teddy bear instead of a bracelet too.[/QUOTE]
That's not what he meant you PERV!
[QUOTE=Sound7]HK has web promotions posted, for daily promotions ask the staff.
[url]http://www.hktijuana.com/specials.php[/url]
Print the page and clip the coupons. Taxi pick-up needs to be prearranged with HK via web.[/QUOTE]
Coupons!? I think it would look weird and point you out as a cheapskate if you where to hand out coupons at a strip club. Finger a girl in the booth and slip her the coupong instead of money. lol.
[QUOTE=JesseJames]Last night was New Year's Eve and Mardis Gras all rolled into one. I've never seen so many hot girls. Last weeks cop raid must have goosed it up. I came out covered with shaving cream stains. That was one great party. But for serious one on one, it's the alley, for me. Than back to HK for more stimulation. I had to reload my singles twice. That's a lot of T & A.
Hong Kong is better than any bar on Soi Cowboy, Nana or Pattaya.[/QUOTE]
Comparing HK to Mardi Gras is apples and oranges. I bet you enjoyed those gay rainbow flagged freaks on the float that diverted off the gay parade route.
[QUOTE=Efjayel]Coupons! ? I think it would look weird and point you out as a cheapskate if you where to hand out coupons at a strip club. Finger a girl in the booth and slip her the coupong instead of money. LOL.[/QUOTE]Do you really think using a coupon that the club [b] gives[/b] you makes you look cheap?
If a chica offers you a lower rate do you turn it down because it will make you look cheap?
Do you turn away a free drink because it makes you look cheap?
If a taxi driver tells you "no charge" do you say" noway take my $5 I am not cheap"?
No, it does not make you look cheap at all, it makes you look grateful and smart.
Everyone who works there knows of the coupons.
The coupon are to get you in the club for the final fleecing.
They expect Americans to over tip even more to massage their own egos.
Work on your self esteem.
You are in an country where factory worker are making $2-$3 an hour and you worry about looking cheap?
To whom?
Yourself or the other mongers?
You are spending more than some of the locals make in a week and you are worried about looking cheap?
Realize what your money is to them.
Get things into perspective.
You are in fact being very generous to them, the cheap crap is all in your American macho mind.
Remember that same person who trys to make you feel cheap is the same ass that will cheat you for a lot less.
You getting cheated out of a dollar is nothing to you but that dollar to them is dinner for them.
Do you tip a dinners worth when you buy a beer in the USA?
They are making more money (profit) than any USA bar on their drinks.
Keep things in perspective!
I try to follow their laws and customs. So what is wrong or cheap about wanting to pay their prices and not being tourist fucked?
[QUOTE=Sound7]HK has web promotions posted, for daily promotions ask the staff.
[url]http://www.hktijuana.com/specials.php[/url]
Print the page and clip the coupons. Taxi pick-up needs to be prearranged with HK via web.[/QUOTE]
Sound7, I used the coupon on Sunday. Got two beers. Took a few minutes for the waiter to wrap his brain around it. I insisted they bring both beers.
Thanks for the tip.
Sgt Perv
So what is wrong or cheap about wanting to pay their prices and not being tourist fucked?
well put.
Sgt Perv
"So what is wrong or cheap about wanting to pay their prices and not being tourist fucked?"
Well put! Much the same as these chaps who insist on trying to get this well worked gal to come, making her fake it, needless theatrics in the transaction.
[QUOTE=Sgt Perv]Do you really think using a coupon that the club [b] gives[/b] you makes you look cheap?
If a chica offers you a lower rate do you turn it down because it will make you look cheap?
Do you turn away a free drink because it makes you look cheap?
If a taxi driver tells you "no charge" do you say" noway take my $5 I am not cheap"?
No, it does not make you look cheap at all, it makes you look grateful and smart.
Everyone who works there knows of the coupons.
The coupon are to get you in the club for the final fleecing.
They expect Americans to over tip even more to massage their own egos.
Work on your self esteem.
You are in an country where factory worker are making $2-$3 an hour and you worry about looking cheap?
To whom?
Yourself or the other mongers?
You are spending more than some of the locals make in a week and you are worried about looking cheap?
Realize what your money is to them.
Get things into perspective.
You are in fact being very generous to them, the cheap crap is all in your American macho mind.
Remember that same person who trys to make you feel cheap is the same ass that will cheat you for a lot less.
You getting cheated out of a dollar is nothing to you but that dollar to them is dinner for them.
Do you tip a dinners worth when you buy a beer in the USA?
They are making more money (profit) than any USA bar on their drinks.
Keep things in perspective!
I try to follow their laws and customs. So what is wrong or cheap about wanting to pay their prices and not being tourist fucked?[/QUOTE]
One of the local S/C's that I patronize here in Monterrey gives out these coupons for 2 for 1 weekday drink specials in which I would probably save around eight bucks.
And no, I never use them.
And yes, it is because of my ego.
For all you Gringos out there that are trying to get a feel for TJ or MX for that matter, just listen to what Sgt Perv has to say. He knows what he is talking about and is pretty much spot-on in all of his posts.
[QUOTE=Cool]I'm sure the Coahilla pales in comparison to Bangkok and Bangkok is less dangerous. Do you have to pay extra to get them to take their top off in SE Asia?[/QUOTE]
From a strip-club standpoint, HK is light years better than any go-go place in BKK that I can think of. Five years ago, maybe not so much. But nowadays...
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HK is offering a bonus via coupons and are very strict on the usage. This adds up to 20% to 50 % discount at HK depending on the activity.The drink coupons may require approval for some waiter from the bar or the floor managers. Be patient, kind and brave. Also patron signature on the coupon's back side may be requested.
Clamato and XX beer combination using the coupon is 42 peso + 0 tip?). Try it you might like it ! Clamato is a mixed drink in a glass and not a bottle. If any health concerns, avoid the clamato. Hard to walk about with two beer bottles.
La Bella (dance) coupon the girls share 50% split (100 peso), waiter a 10 p tip? and HK zero for a five to six minute dance. La Bella coupon needs to be presented to the waiter and identify the lucky girl. A walk to the second floor.
HK Arriba? v Paraditas ?? (300 pesos+)
Border coupons are not helpful. Pick-up and drop-off arrangement via web only. Make sure the print quality of the coupon is good to avoid rejection.
HK "Arriba coupons" currently not available.
Give HK's La Bella" Espanol version coupons to a Paraditas and request 2 x1 very kindly and softly "Promocion". Give other bars (AB) the drink coupon and request a match.
Espanol Version:
[url]http://www.hktijuana.com.mx/specials.php[/url]
Warning:
Be aware of all the drink, money and e.t.c scams and risk factors in play.
Transportation and parking fees are not implied..
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[QUOTE=SDcruiser]Sound7, I used the coupon on Sunday. Got two beers. Took a few minutes for the waiter to wrap his brain around it. I insisted they bring both beers.
Thanks for the tip.[/QUOTE]
Wow!
They even have coupons for a private dance with a fea at half price.
They must be desperate for business?
The other coupon offer is pick you up and drop you off at the border, similar to the deal you get in Vegas, once your in the casino they will take your last dime.
I would probably feel comfortable using the coupons for most everything except paying the girls for private dance.
Are any coupons for banging discount yet?
[QUOTE=HornyTraveler]Are any coupons for banging discount yet?[/QUOTE]They sure do.
They are called pesos and offer unlimited discounts (usual savings $5-$10 per session).
[QUOTE=HornyTraveler]I would probably feel comfortable using the coupons for most everything except paying the girls for private dance.[/QUOTE]The club is taking the hit on the dance coupon.
If chicas were to lose money on the coupons they would throw a tizzy fit.
The chica is still making the same amount.
Are you worried about not giving the club their cut?
Did you really think the chicas keep all the money on the regular dances?
Use the dance coupon if you like dances.
Come on men think now while your pecker is still passed out on your balls.
Once he comes to ,we all tend to stop thinking.
[QUOTE=Sgt Perv]Do you really think using a coupon that the club [b] gives[/b] you makes you look cheap?
You are in fact being very generous to them, the cheap crap is all in your American macho mind.
I try to follow their laws and customs. So what is wrong or cheap about wanting to pay their prices and not being tourist fucked?[/QUOTE]
Yes I do think it makes me look cheap using a coupon.
It has nothing do with trying to be macho. It just reminds me of being young and trying to save $0.15 cents on a jar of peanut butter or 20 cents on a loaf of bread because my mom would force me to use coupons. I always felt so embarrased using coupons and felt like a cheapskate trying to save a few measly cents. Not to mention the disgruntled look on the cashier when I handed them a coupon, cause they now had to adjust the register to the new price. I hated using them and I would be forced to only to save a bit of pocket change that would later end up in the couch anyways.
Let's just say I haven't had a good experience with coupons and simply preffer not to use them or relive the moments when I did. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for saving money. I'd use them for discount on a hotel or to rent a car, but to use them for a waitered drink or a lap dance. Hell no!
[QUOTE=Efjayel]Yes I do think it makes me look cheap using a coupon.
Let's just say I haven't had a good experience with coupons and simply preffer not to use them or relive the moments when I did. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for saving money. I'd use them for discount on a hotel or to rent a car, but to use them for a waitered drink or a lap dance. Hell no![/QUOTE]I understand childhood scars but you are an adult now , time to heal.
You should now realize the purpose of the coupons was so she could give you more with her money and not to embarrass you.
You say you will coupon a hotel or car for $15-$20 saving but not in a house of ill repute?
What is the actual difference?
I would agree if we were talking a charity event but ashamed or embarrassed at a house of ill repute?
We are not talking about a 20 cent coupon on a beer ( I would not even think about that).
It is your money but think about it more.
What is this really about?
More ego and self esteem than a simple business transaction.
You seem like a nice guy and I am not at all trying to belittle you, I am trying to get you to think more about what is actually happening.
If you insist on spending all the money you bring, at least get more for your money.
Consider it helping the locals from rising cost.
You are smart at finding ways to get to TJ and save money but once you are there where you can really save, you act like you do not care.
[QUOTE=Sgt Perv]They sure do.
They are called pesos and offer unlimited discounts (usual savings $5-$10 per session).[/QUOTE]
LOL PERV,
You have in obsessive compulsion with the pesos.
If you go to TJ every week pesos makes sense, but I don't go every week just a few times in a year so for me is not a big difference in savings.
yes I agree MX currency helps if you go often because expenses can add up fast.
[QUOTE=Sgt Perv]The club is taking the hit on the dance coupon.
If chicas were to lose money on the coupons they would throw a tizzy fit.
The chica is still making the same amount.
Are you worried about not giving the club their cut?
Did you really think the chicas keep all the money on the regular dances?
Use the dance coupon if you like dances.
Come on men think now while your pecker is still passed out on your balls.
Once he comes to ,we all tend to stop thinking.[/QUOTE]
No none of that.
I just don't think I would use coupons to pay for private dances or for sex services.
It's just me I feel cheap passing coupons to a girl. I wonder if you get the same quality dance when using coupons?
Anyway don't get me wrong I'm not a rich guy I use coupons for a lot things in life like a car wash, food at the market etc but not for pleasures with the ladies.
[QUOTE=Efjayel]Yes I do think it makes me look cheap using a coupon.
It has nothing do with trying to be macho. It just reminds me of being young and trying to save $0.15 cents on a jar of peanut butter or 20 cents on a loaf of bread because my mom would force me to use coupons. I always felt so embarrased using coupons and felt like a cheapskate trying to save a few measly cents. Not to mention the disgruntled look on the cashier when I handed them a coupon, cause they now had to adjust the register to the new price. I hated using them and I would be forced to only to save a bit of pocket change that would later end up in the couch anyways.
[/QUOTE]
Well that's different, maybe your mom needed to save money to support the family.
Is nothing wrong using coupons at the store a lot of people do.
I know some people are cheap , they own a brand new BMW and they use coupons at the market I seen that many times.
You said felt embarrassed using coupons at the register but your not the one paying for the groceries lol!
But yes girls and coupons is weird, I wouldn't use it.
I will go back to quiet mode.
It is just to me, saving of $20 per $100 is good money with little effort.
Yes, with straight math it appears $8 but your prices are different (cheaper).
Saving $18.50 with coupons makes sense to me also.
So having an extra (say normal $150 trip total) $48.50 to spend is nothing to most people.
I know if I dropped a $50 bill, I wish I could not afford to stop and pick it up. All you have to do is bring $200 instead of $150 and it is even easier.
Sorry guys, I am really done now.
It is alright to save money on things you need in life (no shame) in order to have money for pleasure but it is not ok (shame) to save money on pleasure in order to have more money for pleasure.
Simple enough I guess.
[QUOTE=HornyTraveler]You said felt embarrassed using coupons at the register but your not the one paying for the groceries lol!
But yes girls and coupons is weird, I wouldn't use it.[/QUOTE]
I was paying. When it came to groceries, my mom would call me and put three things into my hand, a list of groceries, money and coupons then send me off to the store. And yes, she was trying to save money to support our family. We where not rich growing up and hardly had any money. But you know how kids are. They preffer to hide their income situation than to let others know they are poor. And using coupons was like wearing a sign with the words "poor" written on it. It's stupid but that was how I felt my when using them.
Exactly what you said, coupons and sexual services from a girl don't mix. Yes you can use it, but I preffer not to.
Chicas on the web.
[url]http://hktijuana.com/gallery.php[/url].
Dx: Unresolved issues - coupon incidents
Tx: CI
[QUOTE=HornyTraveler]But yes girls and coupons is weird, I wouldn't use it.[/QUOTE]
I have never been to to Tijuana but I will be going in August I justr saw the hk web site do these girls fuck and if yes how much I know adelitas its 40-60 but what about HK.
[QUOTE=Balto1]I have never been to to Tijuana but I will be going in August I justr saw the hk web site do these girls fuck and if yes how much I know adelitas its 40-60 but what about HK.[/QUOTE]Some will with [b]you[/b] some will not.
Price is about the same depending on your negotiation skills, they will accept more.
[QUOTE=Balto1]I have never been to to Tijuana but I will be going in August I justr saw the hk web site do these girls fuck and if yes how much I know adelitas its 40-60 but what about HK.[/QUOTE]Same prices as far as I know. I am going 4th of July weekend for the first time in almost a year and a half. I actually have never been to HK, I sampled the street girls before.
Previously, I would go, roam the Zona alone, walk from the border and back at night. Never a problem if you don't count me getting harrassed by cops once that I described in my very first posting. Now I am kinda freaking out though from reading all these posts about muggings and cops getting outta control even more than usual.
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[QUOTE=Libra 7474]Same prices as far as I know. I am going 4th of July weekend for the first time in almost a year and a half. I actually have never been to HK, I sampled the street girls before.
Previously, I would go, roam the Zona alone, walk from the border and back at night. Never a problem if you don't count me getting harrassed by cops once that I described in my very first posting. Now I am kinda freaking out though from reading all these posts about muggings and cops getting outta control even more than usual.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Libra 7474]Same prices as far as I know. I am going 4th of July weekend for the first time in almost a year and a half. I actually have never been to HK, I sampled the street girls before.
Previously, I would go, roam the Zona alone, walk from the border and back at night. Never a problem if you don't count me getting harrassed by cops once that I described in my very first posting. Now I am kinda freaking out though from reading all these posts about muggings and cops getting outta control even more than usual.[/QUOTE]I also posted a long time ago regarding being harassed:
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=633777&postcount=409[/url]
After that experience, I will walk to the zone if before dark, but now i ALWAYS return to the border in a cab. if you read my old report, I got harassed on that footbridge. I think it always pays to be nice, but firm.
"Nature of your trip?", "Why are you in Tijuana?" are some of the common variation questions they can ask. Also "What are you bringing back? All this in 10 seconds or less. Have fun.
[QUOTE=Dylan]I also posted a long time ago regarding being harassed:
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=633777&postcount=409[/url]
After that experience, I will walk to the zone if before dark, but now i ALWAYS return to the border in a cab. if you read my old report, I got harassed on that footbridge. I think it always pays to be nice, but firm.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Dylan]I also posted a long time ago regarding being harassed:
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=633777&postcount=409[/url]
After that experience, I will walk to the zone if before dark, but now i ALWAYS return to the border in a cab. if you read my old report, I got harassed on that footbridge. I think it always pays to be nice, but firm.[/QUOTE]
Footbridge? are you talking about the bridge that goes ovet the river or the brige that leads from the Taxis to the Pedi line?
CC
[QUOTE=Cobra Comander]Footbridge? are you talking about the bridge that goes ovet the river or the brige that leads from the Taxis to the Pedi line?
CC[/QUOTE]It was the river footbridge...I was rounding the stairs on my way back to the border, on the border side of the river. The staircase that is almost connected to that Mexocan restaurant.
The street vendors were gone for the night, and TJ's finest were waiting there by the empty vendor stands, so that anyone walking back to the border across that bridge would have to pass right by them.
[QUOTE=Sound7]"Nature of your trip?", "Why are you in Tijuana?" are some of the common variation questions they can ask. Also "What are you bringing back? All this in 10 seconds or less. Have fun.[/QUOTE]
When they ask me, I just tell them, "I'm visiting." "touristing" "I'm here for the tacos" and other variations of those. All legible and they never have any follow up questions.
Once when they asked me what I was bringing back, I grabbed my stomach and with a sick look on my face I said, "Probably ringworms." The guy said, "Ahh shit!" then laughed and waved me to move on.
[QUOTE=Dylan]It was the river footbridge...I was rounding the stairs on my way back to the border, on the border side of the river. The staircase that is almost connected to that Mexocan restaurant.
The street vendors were gone for the night, and TJ's finest were waiting there by the empty vendor stands, so that anyone walking back to the border across that bridge would have to pass right by them.[/QUOTE]
Yes I thought so. I USED to walk back if it was daylight but got hassled by the pigs one too many times. So now, regardless of what time it is I always take a cab back (50 pesos) to the McDonalds by the border and walk from there. I DO NOT like the "normal" border drop off point cause its so fucking dark and there are WAY too many creeps/cops hanging in the shadows....
CC
[QUOTE=Cobra Comander] So now, regardless of what time it is I always take a cab back (50 pesos) to the McDonalds by the border and walk from there.
CC[/QUOTE]50 peso($3.80 usd) is better than $5.
See picture on #893 :)
Experience would vary at CBP inspection point based on the situation and current level of threat. Be alert and stay calm. It would be a loud drill Sergent questioning. Requires very little response and no sudden movement. Follow the direction to empty the pockets and spread for a pat down of the whole body.
Like a Airport Secondary inspection after the bells set-off. No one moves for few seconds to minutes. Exit the building and head home.
Once I was asked to account for my time in TJ.
[QUOTE=Efjayel]When they ask me, I just tell them, "I'm visiting." "touristing" "I'm here for the tacos" and other variations of those. All legible and they never have any follow up questions.
[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Sound7]Experience would vary at CBP inspection point based on the situation and current level of threat. Be alert and stay calm. It would be a loud drill Sergent questioning. Requires very little response and no sudden movement. Follow the direction to empty the pockets and spread for a pat down of the whole body.
Like a Airport Secondary inspection after the bells set-off. No one moves for few seconds to minutes. Exit the building and head home.
Once I was asked to account for my time in TJ.[/QUOTE]
I don't understand the paranoia associated with crossing the border. These guys are not the Morality Police. You can look 'em in the eye and tell 'em you were porking every puta in the zona norte and there isn't shit they can do about it. As long as it's not a minor, it's legal whether they like it or not.
They ask dumb-ass questions to see if you speak English, if you look shifty, nervous, whatever.
Whenever they ask what I was doing I just say I was having a beer with friends.
[QUOTE=HornyTraveler]No none of that.
I just don't think I would use coupons to pay for private dances or for sex services.
It's just me I feel cheap passing coupons to a girl. I wonder if you get the same quality dance when using coupons?
Anyway don't get me wrong I'm not a rich guy I use coupons for a lot things in life like a car wash, food at the market etc but not for pleasures with the ladies.[/QUOTE]
I think this is the TJ effect. Me and my friends had no problem using strip club copouns for free cover or free student/military night in the US. I bet if HK charged a cover ya'll would be auto printing the free cover coupon like the Oprah KFC chicken coupon. Keeping prices low helps everyone. This is a recession. Everyone is not highrolling from Caliente money.
[QUOTE=Efjayel]Yes I do think it makes me look cheap using a coupon.
It has nothing do with trying to be macho. It just reminds me of being young and trying to save $0.15 cents on a jar of peanut butter or 20 cents on a loaf of bread because my mom would force me to use coupons. I always felt so embarrased using coupons and felt like a cheapskate trying to save a few measly cents. Not to mention the disgruntled look on the cashier when I handed them a coupon, cause they now had to adjust the register to the new price. I hated using them and I would be forced to only to save a bit of pocket change that would later end up in the couch anyways.
Let's just say I haven't had a good experience with coupons and simply preffer not to use them or relive the moments when I did. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for saving money. I'd use them for discount on a hotel or to rent a car, but to use them for a waitered drink or a lap dance. Hell no![/QUOTE]
I understand what your saying. The experience and satisfaction is what counts! If you pay a HK Chica $70 and don't nut or she wants you to fuck her hand instead then your screwed. The quality of service is something bigger to worry about.
The club is the one who is not making money ( at first) off of the coupons !
The employees are still making their same money.
Coupon or not the employees income is the same.
The purpose of the coupons is to get you in the club and keep you there so you will spend more money (now the club makes the real money).
The only effect the coupons really have is the thickness of your wallet and the rest is in your mind.
If you are already planning to go to HK, using the coupons will have no negative effect on your stay.
$80 session at HK ?
Ridiculous when considering where you are at and what else is around.
Using a coupon does not obligate you to only using HK services.
Get a coupon ride to the zona. You are going to zona already.
Buy a drink and get the coupon validated for your next. You are already going to buy a drink.
Roam around the zona if you wish.
Stop back at HK for more show and your free drink. You most likely was going to stop again anyways.
When you are ready to leave the zona you can use the return coupon.
It only saves you $13.50 but you are not going out of your way or being prevented from doing your roaming.
$13.50 will pay for your parking in USA.
Very few things are available to your benefit , so you should use what you can.
The lap dance coupon should have no effect on your dance because the chica is making the same amount of money as if you were paying full price.
She will still be trying to get you worked up so you will spend more on her.
Waitered drink shame?
You can still tip as if you did not use a coupon, after all that is the only thing the waiter cares about.
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What's up with that chunky little ape who's constantly cruising through HK's, giving back/neck rubs and pounding shoulders for dollars? She came up on me last week and nearly broke my neck with that unique Shitzu (sic) technique. Then she jammed her tongue in my ear and said "sockee very nice twennee dollars". Err no thanks Honey, I have a chiropractor's appt.
I would be willing to bet money that she makes as much as many of the decent looking chicas in there, given her constant cruising for $ and high energy level.
[QUOTE=Cobra Comander]Yes I thought so. I USED to walk back if it was daylight but got hassled by the pigs one too many times. So now, regardless of what time it is I always take a cab back (50 pesos) to the McDonalds by the border and walk from there. I DO NOT like the "normal" border drop off point cause its so fucking dark and there are WAY too many creeps/cops hanging in the shadows....
CC[/QUOTE]Well, I went down to go to HK twice in the last few weeks. On one of the trips, I did walk back after dark, with no problem. It was a Sunday, though, and not much activity out. It was even more scary than when there were lots of people around.
On a side note, I have noticed that the chicas are now asking $80 as a standard response to asking to go to the room.
I simply refuse. Each time they've backed down and accepted $60. There was chica in there, BEBE, who looked like a fitness model. She had abs like a bodybuilder. Fine, fine, fine.
I cruised through bot Adelitas and Chicago Club, but not much action in either.
Has anyone ever gone to the Bull fights? Sorry, off-topic I know, but I've been curious and was thinking of going before the end of the season.
[QUOTE=Dylan]On a side note, I have noticed that the chicas are now asking $80 as a standard response to asking to go to the room.
I simply refuse. Each time they've backed down and accepted $60.[/QUOTE]Guys are afraid of looking cheap, so the chicas are using it against them. As the peso increases in value, as it is now, the prices will rise for everything including the price of beer. Telling people to use pesos to keep the prices down does not seem to work. When the prices go up, the non peso users will now be crying "WHY?". The answer is simply the chicas have gotten used to your non cheap ways. You have created the monster so now you have to deal with it.
I still push the equivalent (in pesos) of $50-$55 for arriba. Yes I do get turned down by some of the uppity top tier but I am not contributing for a price increase. I do not approach them for service (club chicas) but instead situate myself so that they ask me. This is a newer approach for me but because of their ways of trying to get more money, I have adapted my ways. I feel if they ask me first, I am in a better position to negotiate than for me to start the negotiations and seem weak to their female powers.
The increase in club chica arriba will have little effect on me ( beer will) because they are not my favorite but in stead are my foul weather fall backs.
[QUOTE=Dylan]Has anyone ever gone to the Bull fights? Sorry, off-topic I know, but I've been curious and was thinking of going before the end of the season.[/QUOTE]I was told they don't have the bull fights quite as often now. I wanted to attend the one in late May but had to return home the week before. You can get info at the Tuijana information buildings just across the border before going through the gate and the location on Revolution. They said you should see posters hanging around town. If you find out when they have the next one, please post.
[QUOTE=Ho Lover1]I was told they don't have the bull fights quite as often now. I wanted to attend the one in late May but had to return home the week before. If you find out when they have the next one, please post.[/QUOTE]This is the wrong thread but here is where to look.
[url]http://www.borderbullfights.com/2008cartel.html[/url]
July 26, August 9, August 23 and September 6
[QUOTE=Cobra Comander]Yes I thought so. I USED to walk back if it was daylight but got hassled by the pigs one too many times. So now, regardless of what time it is I always take a cab back (50 pesos) to the McDonalds by the border and walk from there. I DO NOT like the "normal" border drop off point cause its so fucking dark and there are WAY too many creeps/cops hanging in the shadows....
CC[/QUOTE]I hate those bastards, too. There were four of them, lurking in the shadows before the bridge. Each of them took a turn checking the lint in my pockets. Maybe those creeps are dead now. The dirty cop night shift starts at 8 PM.
[QUOTE=Sgt Perv]The increase in club chica arriba will have little effect on me ( beer will) because they are not my favorite but in stead are my foul weather fall backs.[/QUOTE]What are your favorites?
I have always used HK as a resting place. I enjoy the shows and tip the dancers and maybe buy a fishca but as far as arriba, I enjoy the paraditas. I will bargain with the club chicas but will not pay the bs prices the sometimes ask.
Lots of guys are afraid of the paraditas for different reasons but they are the most reasonable when it comes to prices/service. The club chicas are so full of themselves, a lot of them, that the service suffers. Many guys think the club girls are all better looking and give better service but I will bet they have not checked out, real well, the paraditas.
You can add time up to TLN for the price you spend on fischas and arriba (30 min) with one club girl. I do not enjoy being either fischa fucked or tourist fucked.
I do not stick to services from one source in the zona. I like to mix things up and enjoy HK for maybe about an hour at a time. The zona is small and even easier now days to maneuver around (clubs having two exits to different streets), all you have to do is step outside and look around. With the added exits you have added security (barkers because they are watching). No longer a need to walk around the block. I knock the edge off and return to the clubs. I am less likely to cave for a chica's charms.
Now if the weather is foul outside then I am somewhat stuck with the club chicas but when the weather is bad, so is the number of customers and the chicas are easier to bargain with. I play the visits by ear but I know what I like and where I can look. HK has the best entertainment for the strip club environment and for me a must "stop and rest".
My new fav at HK: Beya ("bay-yah") from some place starting with an S (can't think of it at the moment).
This beautiful young lady gives a very entertaining performance on the stage. She's very good looking, a bit over made up, big lovely chi-chis, beautiful lips.
After her set, she plopped down beside me. Very little English. bought her a Sol. She played around with jr for a while, then suggested a "blow-yob." Looking at those lovely lips, I couldn't resist.
Up we go. I bargin for sin condon for a $20 up charge from her $40 rate. Worth every penny. I didn;t ask for CIM, but she took almost my whole load (dripping a little) without a blink. Priceless. Gave her an extra $20 afterward for $80 total damage. Without a doubt, the best BBBJ I ever gotten in TJ, and I've gotten some very good service in past visits. So if $80 for a BBBJCIM seems too high, then all you peso-pinching tightwads can blow me (just not as well as Beya or however you spell it). That sort of service should be properly rewarded. I will definitely repeat next time i'm down this way.
[QUOTE=Lulu Pussy]My new fav at HK: Beya ("bay-yah") from some place starting with an S (can't think of it at the moment).
[/QUOTE]
I assumed it is spelled Bella (means beautiful) and she's from Sonora. What I liked best about her was that she showered both before and after the session. I also recommend her for FS.
[QUOTE=Lulu Pussy]So if $80 for a BBBJCIM seems too high, then all you peso-pinching tightwads can blow me (just not as well as Beya or however you spell it).[/QUOTE]Why even go to TJ? You can get that for $80 almost anywhere without all the travel and extra expenses. If that is the best you can do then more power to you.
HK few cutes would not move, interested in drink coupons and drinks for friends. Headed to the alley/Cascade and this one wanted 30 dollar only for total action? and 5 for the room. I indicated I had pesos and she pointed to the Money Changer. The exchange rate was 1: 13.12.
Revolution blasting with music but no crowd.
Pattern change or shift in TJ since my last trip (June) or just plain hard ball?
[QUOTE=Sgt Perv]Why even go to TJ? You can get that for $80 almost anywhere without all the travel and extra expenses. If that is the best you can do then more power to you.[/QUOTE]
Angela, a long time favorite of mine (9 years) has left Adelita's and is now at HK. She is older (39) but nice, natural chi-chi's, speaks English and has a great attiude. Mucho fun. I pay her a little more but I get many extras. Her name at HK is Anna.
I was there in the day recently and ran into Anthrax. She is a one woman party and has huge tits. I took her for a privado. We did russian for the two or three songs. Great time but bring napkins if you go upstairs.
Later on I was stalked by a streetwalker.(She followed me for three blocks.)Against my better judgement I said yes. Her name was Claudia and she was busty and overweight. But for $20 toda sin ropa I thought it might be fun. The $3 hotel room was disgusting and while giving the bj she kept starting and stopping. Very frustrating. Take a pass on Claudia even if she runs after you.
[QUOTE]If $80 for a BBBJCIM seems too high, then all you peso-pinching tightwads can blow me. That sort of service should be properly rewarded.[/QUOTE]Plus one on this point.
I'm old enough to remember when no self-respecting hooker would use a condom during a blowjob. Unfortunately this started to change in the early 90s and by end of that decade bareback blowjobs were virtually unheard of in any of the pay-for-play venues I frequented. This is the wrong forum for a debate on safer sex practices. So I'll just opine that in my view the health concerns cited by many people were not warranted by the science, and I prefer my fellatio uncovered. YMMV of course.
Lately, however, girls seem to be more willing to dispense with the condom when going down on their clients. I've had pleasant experiences in several apartment incall places east of the Mississippi. And I note that online ads for hookers often promise a girl friend experience (GFE) which in at least some cases is a euphemism for offering a BBBJ.
In the zona norte I often ask the girls "Lo haces oral sin condom?" Most decline. But lately it seems to me more girls are agreeing than before, especially when I say "Possiblimente para una propina?" Like the original poster, I am willing to pay more for a BBBJ. If the girl goes for the "propina" suggestion, I'll usually throw an extra $20 into the deal. If I'm dealing with a second tier girl I might agree to an $80 serssion where I'd hold out for $60 in the absence of a BBBJ. The bottom line is that I think there is a definite trend toward the BBBJ and I do what I can to encourage it.
Bunky
Sound7, plesae re-read this:
[QUOTE=Sound7]HK few cutes would not move, interested in drink coupons and drinks for friends. Headed to the alley/Cascade and this one wanted 30 dollar only for total action? and 5 for the room. I indicated I had pesos and she pointed to the Money Changer. The exchange rate was 1: 13.12.
Revolution blasting with music but no crowd.
Pattern change or shift in TJ since my last trip (June) or just plain hard ball?[/QUOTE]
What are you talking about?
[QUOTE=Sound7]HK few cutes would not move, interested in drink coupons and drinks for friends. Headed to the alley/Cascade and this one wanted 30 dollar only for total action? and 5 for the room. I indicated I had pesos and she pointed to the Money Changer. The exchange rate was 1: 13.12.
Revolution blasting with music but no crowd.
Pattern change or shift in TJ since my last trip (June) or just plain hard ball?[/QUOTE]
Ehh, maybe it's you?
You must've found the only SG in TJ who won't take pesos! :)
The only pattern change I've noticed is that the chicas seem more amenable to price negotiations.
[QUOTE=Pelongera]Sound7, plesae re-read this:
What are you talking about?[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Phordphan]Ehh, maybe it's you[/QUOTE]That dude is in his own little world and in that alternate world they must have a TJ also. :)
I do not think the chicas can make sense out of him either. He must be using a drug/drink program encoder that can only be decoded with said program having been downloaded into your own system.
Yes, The only TJ SG.
[QUOTE=Phordphan]Ehh, maybe it's you?
You must've found the only SG in TJ who won't take pesos! :)
The only pattern change I've noticed is that the chicas seem more amenable to price negotiations.[/QUOTE]
Like I said before, Sound7 must be really high every time he posts. That or he's from a foreign speaking language and uses an online text translator which obviously don't do a perfect job of translating. If so then kudos to him cause he has to translate our posts and try to make sense of them as well.
But I'm more convinced he's just high.
HK Charm school is a very interesting concept, could it happen in this forum? I look forward to the outline. Thanks
[QUOTE=Sgt Perv]lol[/QUOTE]
it would be hard to communicate with this forum if one is limited to heritage level but with current software and hardware, and great understanding of the members, it is possible. the sentence might fail to communicate or link with what is being said. a very frustrating situation for everyone in the written form but ok in person.
english language defines sov sentence structure with a non-tonal speech delivery. sov is subject -verb - object..
variations and errors in sentences help in the assessment of l1, l2 & heritage speakers. l1 would have the least amount of error in the written and spoken form of sentence structure. heritage speaker with a significant error in written form and l2 in the spoken form. l2 is defined as a second language.
[quote=efjayellike i said before, sound7 must be really high every time he posts. that or he's from a foreign speaking language and uses an online text translator which obviously don't do a perfect job of translating. if so then kudos to him cause he has to translate our posts and try to make sense of them as well.
but i'm more convinced he's just high.[/quote]
[quote=sound7]it would be hard to communicate with this forum if one is limited to heritage level but with current software and hardware, and great understanding of the members, it is possible. the sentence might fail to communicate or link with what is being said. a very frustrating situation for everyone in the written form but ok in person.
english language defines sov sentence structure with a non-tonal speech delivery. sov is subject -verb - object..
variations and errors in sentences help in the assessment of l1, l2 & heritage speakers. l1 would have the least amount of error in the written and spoken form of sentence structure. heritage speaker with a significant error in written form and l2 in the spoken form. l2 is defined as a second language.[/quote]
my first guess was right. he's just high.
a label from efjayel(tm) trademark?
[quote=efjayel]my first guess was right. he's just high.
originally posted by sound7
it would be hard to communicate with this forum if one is limited to heritage level but with current software and hardware, and great understanding of the members, it is possible. the sentence might fail to communicate or link with what is being said. a very frustrating situation for everyone in the written form but ok in person.
english language defines sov sentence structure with a non-tonal speech delivery. sov is subject -verb - object..
variations and errors in sentences help in the assessment of l1, l2 & heritage speakers. l1 would have the least amount of error in the written and spoken form of sentence structure. heritage speaker with a significant error in written form and l2 in the spoken form. l2 is defined as a second language.
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Trademark? What do you mean?
A gratification.
[QUOTE=Efjayel]Trademark? What do you mean?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Efjayel]Trademark? What do you mean?[/QUOTE]
Dude, don't encourage him! :)
How about something useful, like a warning to the cum boys along the lines of "early knock, no tip"
I am guessing at "golpear pronto, no propina!" Am I close?
[QUOTE=Dornyone]How about something useful, like a warning to the cum boys along the lines of "early knock, no tip"
I am guessing at "golpear pronto, no propina!" Am I close?[/QUOTE]
Change the word "golpear" with "tocar."
It probably wouldn't be much helpful anyways since I don't usually see any of the cum boys until the time of the knock. And the few I do see before hand are not always the same that "come a knockin while the bed's still rockin."
[QUOTE=Phordphan]Dude, don't encourage him! :)[/QUOTE]
lol ok.
Some times a bunch of very young boys asking for a tip on a busy day.
[QUOTE=Efjayel]Change the word "golpear" with "tocar."
It probably wouldn't be much helpful anyways since I don't usually see any of the cum boys until the time of the knock. And the few I do see before hand are not always the same that "come a knockin while the bed's still rockin."[/QUOTE]
Dude have you heard of Sotomayor?
[QUOTE=Efjayel]lol ok.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Efjayel]But I'm more convinced he's just high.[/QUOTE]
Oh man, I have not gotten high in ages, but this post makes me want to roll a dub. I get more pleasure posting absurdities while blazed than any other time. I could care less what the f*ck any of you think, because it all makes sense to me. Plus, I went to one of those hippy colleges that doesn't really frown on you showing up to Spanish class wreaking of dosha, and it brings back memories.
What is dosha?
I feel we all here would like to communicate in this forum to the best of our own ability without any prejudices and help others who are visiting HK Tijuana. I think we have done that for most part with few exceptions.
This is not a forum to get high and post information or field reports.
Just last week a member of the forum was jumped in broad day light. He is ok .You might put someone at great risk.
Having said that it understood each member in this forum might have his or her style of writing. We need to respect that more so than in the past.
Recently I liked report format of another member in this forum who wrote in the bullet format. He was asked to write in paragraphs and it was done. For harmony, I would guess.
Let us be safe and responsible before Sotomayor and the USSC changes the law for good.
[QUOTE=Pablito Diablito]Oh man, I have not gotten high in ages, but this post makes me want to roll a dub. I get more pleasure posting absurdities while blazed than any other time. I could care less what the f*ck any of you think, because it all makes sense to me. Plus, I went to one of those hippy colleges that doesn't really frown on you showing up to Spanish class wreaking of dosha, and it brings back memories.[/QUOTE]
Ok. But it's not so much about a style of writing as it is about what you write. And you(sound7) many times write about something obscure and not even related to the current conversation. It makes me think, "Why is he even bringing that up?" You know, like when a drunk guy interrupts a conversation and starts babbling incoherently about his socks or something. lol
Your comments and posting as related to me are in clear violation of this forum. Refrain from it.
[QUOTE=Efjayel]Ok. But it's not so much about a style of writing as it is about what you write. And you(sound7) many times write about something obscure and not even related to the current conversation. It makes me think, "Why is he even bringing that up?" You know, like when a drunk guy interrupts a conversation and starts babbling incoherently about his socks or something. lol[/QUOTE]
Just got back from a trip to Tijuana. Did all my chica banging at Adelitas (although I did see something I liked at Chicago my last night right before my taxi to the border).
I did stop in Honk Kong Saturday, Sunday, and Monday night and an confused about the price structure for the services that are offered at this fine establishment.
Friday and Saturday night, there was a cover of $3.50 at the door which got you a Tecate in a can.l Sunday and Monday no cover.
Monday, I bought a Tecate in a bottle from a waiter for $3.
Sunday night, I needed a little warmup before I went back to Adelitas, so I said Hola to a tall, blond chica named Gina w/big bolt-ons who walks around topless. The waiter tried to put us in a vip room, but I told him I just wanted a table. I ordered a Tecate and Gina got a Clamato. The cost was like $16. When her drink was finito, the waiter was hovering to get us another. I was ready to go back to Adelitas, so I declined the offer and left.
Gina offered fucky/sucky for $60. While we were at the table, another waiter approached me and told me I could have a vip room for up to an hour just for the cost of some type of drink package.
Monday night was slow in La Zona and at Adelitas. Most of the better looking chicas I had already seen from previous nights. I went to Hong Kong to get warmed up and bought a Tecate as stated above ($3). I found this hott chick dancing downstairs on one of those mini stages between 2 seats. She had black hair, pretty face, great lean body and nice bolt ons. I asked her if I could buy her a drink and she said only private dances for $20. I was confused and walked away. I later saw her drinking with another guy at his table.
I went upstairs, and saw this thin, brown haired girl w/small tits dancing wildly with a mans hat. I asked her to have a drink. We sat in a booth. I ordered a drink for her and already had my Tecate. She got a mini beer and it was $7. While drinking her drink, she started grinding on me and we inspected each others tonsils like a ENT specialist.
So here are my questions:
-did the waiter rip me off w/Gina?
-what is a "private dance" and how much and where?
-how do the vip rooms work? cost? drinks for her/me? time? what girls do/don't in there? tip required?
-any other options at Hong Kong other than going to the Hotel?
-all Hong Kong girls do not go to the hotel, correct? Some just make $ dancing/drinking, right?
-anybody know any more about the 3 chicas I spoke of? did I miss out on anything? Sunday night, I made out well at Adelitas. Monday I went with a Hottie Central chica who acted friendly in the bar, but was disappointing in the room.
Glad you had a good time in TJ. Thanks for sharing.
One can print the coupons of the HK website and get one free drink and half off the first lap dance ($10). The mixed Chica drinks ($12 Tequila) are more expensive than the mini chica beer ($7 + 1 tip). It appears that the waiter helped himself to a tip, a common practice with HK waiters.
VIP is an optional feature described on the HK web page.
HK forum postings addresses your remaining questions.
[QUOTE=Ath Trainer]
So here are my questions:
-did the waiter rip me off w/Gina?
-what is a "private dance" and how much and where?
-how do the vip rooms work? cost? drinks for her/me? time? what girls do/don't in there? tip required?
-any other options at Hong Kong other than going to the Hotel?
-all Hong Kong girls do not go to the hotel, correct? Some just make $ dancing/drinking, right?
-anybody know any more about the 3 chicas I spoke of? did I miss out on anything? Sunday night, I made out well at Adelitas. Monday I went with a Hottie Central chica who acted friendly in the bar, but was disappointing in the room.[/QUOTE]
Ath Trainer:
About the only thing you didn't say anything about is the "chips deal". She may have had a call drink in her Clamato which they charged you the $12.00, or he could have just jobbed you. Always ask what they want prior to the order, if you choose not to pay for Tequila, etc. For $12.00, just tell her no. It is SOP for them to hammer you for drinks, at both clubs.
I have only used the VIP once, with one of the more well known ladies at HK reported about on this board. If I remember right it was $42.00 for ten beers. The VIP is no more than a very small closet. I don't remember how long it was, but enough time for me. I wanted out of the "broom closet". She did treat me right. If you don't go to Tijuana often, I would suggest keeping the drinks at a minimum, and don't do the VIP. At today's bargaining rates, it is almost the same as going to the room, not including the room charge.
All the ladies are very different in what they will do, and for how much. Just ask, and if you don't receive the correct answer for you, NEXT!
The odds of finding a GFE in hottie central are stacked against you. IMO, the odds of finding a GFE in Tijuana are not good, unless you visit quite often, and even then it can be hit or miss. One of my past favorita's is pissed at me becuase I go arriba with other ladies. It's pretty funny to see a smokin' hot 20 Y. O. Pissed at a fat old (60's) f*rt like me. It is simply amazing what money can do! Just as in any interaction with women look for some kind of connection.
You may want to try one of the other bars, Las Chevalas, or Tropical. They have some good drink specials, and rarely you will find a diamond in the rough there.
Basically ask more questions when you are there. It is better to know up front that you are about to be ******.
I will be down again this weekend. Look for a gray haired old f*rt with a big smile on his face. We can share some drinks and some laughs.
Health & happiness to all.
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[QUOTE=Ath Trainer]
-did the waiter rip me off w/Gina?
-what is a "private dance" and how much and where?
-how do the vip rooms work? cost? drinks for her/me? time? what girls do/don't in there? tip required?
-any other options at Hong Kong other than going to the Hotel?
-all Hong Kong girls do not go to the hotel, correct? Some just make $ dancing/drinking, right?
-anybody know any more about the 3 chicas I spoke of? did I miss out on anything? Sunday night, I made out well at Adelitas. Monday I went with a Hottie Central chica who acted friendly in the bar, but was disappointing in the room.[/QUOTE]
Yes the waiter ripped you off. A common trick they pull is slipping a bag of chips onto the table when you aren't paying attention and charging you $3 for them.
Private dances are $20 in the booths on the second floor
VIP dances are in one of the big VIP rooms and you have to buy a bucket of beer at a ridiculous price that I don't remember because I would never consider it.
I don't think there are any other options besides the hotel.
True. Not all girls go to the room. And some charge a really high price for it because they prefer the private or VIP dances. And some of the sash girls will only sit with customers for drinks.
[QUOTE=JPF]
True. Not all girls go to the room. And some charge a really high price for it because they prefer the private or VIP dances. And some of the sash girls will only sit with customers for drinks.[/QUOTE]
They ALL go up... They just may NOT choose to do so with EVERYONE.
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-did the waiter rip me off w/Gina? - [b]Yes. See other posts about the chip scam. Otherwise, you got hosed. BTW, I don't think there's any such thing as a "call" Clamato, as there is usually no liquor in one. [/b]
-what is a "private dance" and how much and where? - [b]Those little phone-booth looking things on the 2nd floor. I think $20 for two songs.[/b]
-how do the vip rooms work? cost? drinks for her/me? time? what girls do/don't in there? tip required? - [b]Others know more. I think you have to buy a bucket of beers. $70 - $80? Never did it, poor value for money.[/b]
-any other options at Hong Kong other than going to the Hotel? - [b]Other than VIP and privado, no. But, that's the whole point, isn't it?[/b]
-all Hong Kong girls do not go to the hotel, correct? Some just make $ dancing/drinking, right? - [b]A *few* might just be ficheras. Mostly they'll all go, but some will demand stupid money. Don't give in.[/b]
Monday I went with a Hottie Central chica who acted friendly in the bar, but was disappointing in the room. - [b]No surprise there...[/b]
[QUOTE=Phordphan]Monday I went with a Hottie Central chica who acted friendly in the bar, but was disappointing in the room. - [b]No surprise there...[/b][/QUOTE]
Their value are their looks and not their performance! Kinda like riding a mechanical bull (on slow mode) verses a real bull. :)
[QUOTE=Phordphan]-how do the vip rooms work? cost? drinks for her/me? time? what girls do/don't in there? tip required? - [b]Others know more. I think you have to buy a bucket of beers. $70 - $80? Never did it, poor value for money.[/b][/QUOTE]
Pure tourist scam. For those who do not know what the place is really about. Foolish thing to do unless you are one of those shy anti-arriba types because if you are looking just for "time", you can get that one fisha at a time with the added advantages of stopping whenever you wish and making her work you for her next fishca.
Just say no to VIP!
I pushed my Tuesday trip to today, glad I did! Left OC at about 2-30, drive down was good, no slow spots at all. Parked in the closest lot and walked through the side exit to the gates. I had already had lunch so I went straight to HK instead of my usual detour to La Perla.
The place was really slow, chicas vs guys were about 3-1, the meseros were really hungry and aggressive, annoying. I kept moving and turned down several gals with "not ready yet".
I went upstairs to watch, just as the sash girls (black mini skirts) went up. Great eye candy. I caught the eye of a young one up front who motioned to me that she wanted to join me, I nodded. 30 seconds later this leggy beauty is beside me in the booth. My Spanish is pretty basic but after she gets a fischa we chat, she's 19 (I blush) and wants to go into the booth for a privado, I decline based on what I've read here. She insists that I will enjoy it but I counter with a request for arriba. Her turn to decline, we chat a little while longer and she leaves.
Within 2 minutes I am joined by a little fireplug who's all over me, promising a BJ in the privado, then fuckee in there too, how can I resist?
She's not my usual sort, being older and short but her personality made these traits seem secondary. In the booth she gets a condom on then administers a pretty good bj before turning around for some very active doggy style fucking. Her head was jammed against the door frame as I went to work but in the short time and with the distractions and loud music, no pop.
We agree to get a room as by now I am impressed. She says (no doubt because of my earlier failure to feed) that it will be $40 plus room, I agree. After paying the bogus $1 fee for the bathrobe, we go next door.
Unlike the Adelita's hotel, you don't get a sheet to cover the bedspread, just a towel. She set to work washing up (she was sweaty from the booth action) while I disrobed.
She explained that she just broke up with her boyfriend of 7 yrs and was horny, lucky me.
I laid back on the towel while she applied a Goodyear rubber and mounted up. She warned me not to come as she wanted to "fuckee many ways". Starting out CG, going to RCG and then on to doggy, she was a champ, enthusiastic and noisy. Finally she took me out of her pussy (while in doggy) and fed me into her ass. I pounded away as she gave an account of how close she was getting to orgasm until she did. About this time I was a little winded so I laid back while she removed the rubber and gave me one of the best BBBJs of my life. The knock never came and we snuggled for a while, spent and sweaty.
I took a shower while she washed her pussy etc again. She brought my pants into the bathroom and warned me not to leave my wallet etc in the other room with any other girl. I thanked her for the warning, dried off, got dressed and we left the room after I gave her $60 instead of the agreed $40, providers like that deserve appreciation.
You may wonder why an experienced monger would make the newbie mistake of not taking his pants with him to the bathroom. I'll tell you why. After we had finished our session, (while cuddling) she mentioned her name. Salma.
Great detail report about last night at HK
Sash girl in black was one cool looker. I saw her standing at the entrance next to the raffle red Celica. You had her sitting next to you. for one fischa ($7 to $8).
My observation of the HK management was they looked tense due to few clients. Roaming and scanning like crazy all floors including Pravido.
Pravido and Arriba action you had is something of a legend to have all that sucking action in less than two songs plus Arriba anal for $80. You hit the jackpot with Salma last night.
[QUOTE=Dornyone]I pushed my Tuesday trip to today, glad I did! Left OC at about 2-30, drive down was good, no slow spots at all. Parked in the closest lot and walked through the side exit to the gates. I had already had lunch so I went straight to HK instead of my usual detour to La Perla.
The place was really slow, chicas vs guys were about 3-1, the meseros were really hungry and aggressive, annoying. I kept moving and turned down several gals with "not ready yet".
I went upstairs to watch, just as the sash girls (black mini skirts) went up. Great eye candy. I caught the eye of a young one up front who motioned to me that she wanted to join me, I nodded. 30 seconds later this leggy beauty is beside me in the booth. My Spanish is pretty basic but after she gets a fischa we chat, she's 19 (I blush) and wants to go into the booth for a privado, I decline based on what I've read here. She insists that I will enjoy it but I counter with a request for arriba. Her turn to decline, we chat a little while longer and she leaves.
Within 2 minutes I am joined by a little fireplug who's all over me, promising a BJ in the privado, then fuckee in there too, how can I resist?
She's not my usual sort, being older and short but her personality made these traits seem secondary. In the booth she gets a condom on then administers a pretty good bj before turning around for some very active doggy style fucking. Her head was jammed against the door frame as I went to work but in the short time and with the distractions and loud music, no pop.
We agree to get a room as by now I am impressed. She says (no doubt because of my earlier failure to feed) that it will be $40 plus room, I agree. After paying the bogus $1 fee for the bathrobe, we go next door.
Unlike the Adelita's hotel, you don't get a sheet to cover the bedspread, just a towel. She set to work washing up (she was sweaty from the booth action) while I disrobed.
She explained that she just broke up with her boyfriend of 7 yrs and was horny, lucky me.
I laid back on the towel while she applied a Goodyear rubber and mounted up. She warned me not to come as she wanted to "fuckee many ways". Starting out CG, going to RCG and then on to doggy, she was a champ, enthusiastic and noisy. Finally she took me out of her pussy (while in doggy) and fed me into her ass. I pounded away as she gave an account of how close she was getting to orgasm until she did. About this time I was a little winded so I laid back while she removed the rubber and gave me one of the best BBBJs of my life. The knock never came and we snuggled for a while, spent and sweaty.
I took a shower while she washed her pussy etc again. She brought my pants into the bathroom and warned me not to leave my wallet etc in the other room with any other girl. I thanked her for the warning, dried off, got dressed and we left the room after I gave her $60 instead of the agreed $40, providers like that deserve appreciation.
You may wonder why an experienced monger would make the newbie mistake of not taking his pants with him to the bathroom. I'll tell you why. After we had finished our session, (while cuddling) she mentioned her name. Salma.[/QUOTE]
Great TR, Dornyone.
The only false part is the boyfriend of 7 years. Doesn't exist. :)
She's probably the hardest working girl in the zona. But, Jealousy, thy name is Salma. :eek:
She told me it was her husband when I was in last week! LOL
She is a lot of fun though. If only all the ladies had her attitude, life would be great. So far I haven't seen the jealousy, but I'm sure that I will eventually.
Even though it is only about the money, it seems that the P4P ladies worldwide can't stand to see on of their regular PL's go arriba with another lady. I find this probably the most interesting part of mongering.
Health & happiness to all.
[QUOTE=Phordphan]Great TR, Dornyone.
The only false part is the boyfriend of 7 years. Doesn't exist. :)
She's probably the hardest working girl in the zona. But, Jealousy, thy name is Salma. :eek:[/QUOTE]
I will be heading down to TJ in 2-3 weeks. I have heard so many report of the famous Tania and Salma that I wanted to try both. I see Tania up on escort web sites from time to time but have never hooked up with her.
How, would I find Salma in HK? Does she work days or evening typically. If I ask the staff would they know? A description would be great (age, weight, eye color, height, etc..) so I know if they just bring some other Chica which I am sure they would try if she wasn't there or available.
Thx for any info.
"She's probably the hardest working girl in the zona. But, Jealousy, thy name is Salma."
She did mention that, I thought it funny. If she doesn't frequent Adelitas and leaves to watch novelas we shouldn't have a problem.
She's about 5' with brown streaked hair, if you sit still, she will find you.
I told her she is famous...
Sound7, next time down let me know and I'll get you a beer. I'm considering another trip on Saturday, as "the planets are aligned now" and it'll be a while before it happens again.
[QUOTE=Dornyone]"She's probably the hardest working girl in the zona. But, Jealousy, thy name is Salma."
She did mention that, I thought it funny. If she doesn't frequent Adelitas and leaves to watch novelas we shouldn't have a problem.
She's about 5' with brown streaked hair, if you sit still, she will find you.
I told her she is famous...
Sound7, next time down let me know and I'll get you a beer. I'm considering another trip on Saturday, as "the planets are aligned now" and it'll be a while before it happens again.[/QUOTE]
Wow, another great TR about Salma. I'm happy to see her get good press. If there was ever a girl worried about great customer service, it's her. Nice going (and coming).
[QUOTE=Supersteve]Even though it is only about the money, it seems that the P4P ladies worldwide can't stand to see on of their regular PL's go arriba with another lady. I find this probably the most interesting part of mongering.[/QUOTE]This is true but even more so of latin chicks. I've heard of the Brazilian brothel women getting enraged with such jealousy to the point that they litteraly start yelling at you like a girlfriend being cheated on. lol.
[QUOTE=Dornyone]Sound7, next time down let me know and I'll get you a beer.[/QUOTE] If you do meet up with Sound7 let us know what he uses to get high. I think I might want some of it :D
This Thursday July 23, 2009 HK is having a VIP bash. Rest up and be safe.
Last Friday, hardly any regular Americans but did see two cuties Northern European girls strolling on Ave. Revolution and a tall older European ( 6 feet 7" (220 cm?) on Constitution in his full hiking outfit - boots and short.
HK had a soapy show - two on stage and third fulled clothed with big ass jumping in for a pussy bite. A guy tried to finger fuck her as she was sucking the blond on the stage but the Big Ass wanted no part of it. A Brave Mexicano. A very moving show including the attempt by the Chico.
Would it be possible in the future to select a favorite Chica to go suck a stage girl's pussy? What a show that would be? Risk of Oral infection?
How much should the girl's tip be for this act? Normal light finger fuck on stage is $1 USD for guys. This is a request for a different kind, any suggestion? A dollar? Has any one made such a request of their favorite Chica yet?
Wild west show was active with blazing LE driving in multi squad formation fully loaded in the Zona Rio area Friday and Saturday (day and night).
Thanks for the vitual beer Dornyone.
[QUOTE=Dornyone]"She's probably the hardest working girl in the zona. But, Jealousy, thy name is Salma."
She did mention that, I thought it funny. If she doesn't frequent Adelitas and leaves to watch novelas we shouldn't have a problem.
She's about 5' with brown streaked hair, if you sit still, she will find you.
I told her she is famous...
Sound7, next time down let me know and I'll get you a beer. I'm considering another trip on Saturday, as "the planets are aligned now" and it'll be a while before it happens again.[/QUOTE]
A multi prepaid pravido "La Bella" sessions with a single Chica - requested a bathroom break and granted. No return.
Dancing to muti songs requires great physical conditioning and concentration.
Chica is in charge. No refund.
[QUOTE=Sound7]A multi prepaid pravido "La Bella" sessions with a single Chica - requested a bathroom break and granted. No return.
Dancing to muti songs requires great physical conditioning and concentration.
Chica is in charge. No refund.[/QUOTE]
I don't understand what you said, but I'm guessing a girl walked out on you during a private dance? That would be a pretty stupid thing for her to do since she would just bump into you again later in the bar. Did you complain to management?
Yes, you deciphered it correctly.
Doing multi dance & arriba was not a good idea to save time. Great temptation to do nothing for prepaid multi activities. Something new for her?
I am not surprised by this Chica's or the HK Management's response looking back.
[QUOTE=Efjayel]I don't understand what you said, but I'm guessing a girl walked out on you during a private dance? That would be a pretty stupid thing for her to do since she would just bump into you again later in the bar. Did you complain to management?[/QUOTE]
I'm sure the line at the "complaints" booth was long and wide..........
Yes to you question regarding CB.
Location: Complaint Dept. - "Staff Only" Door, 2nd Floor, near the rear men's restroom.
Direction Options: 1), 2) or 3)
1) The door "Staff Only" is located at the rear end of the 2nd Floor, right next to the men's restroom. Easy way from the main entrance is to take the ramp/steps to the "Privados." Walk straight to the end, turn 45 degree to left and over the crosswalk, turn 45 degree to right and head straight to "Staff Only" entrance. Repeat the word "manager" if stopped by a staffer.
2) From the rear entrance take the first steps to you right to the second floor and the "Staff Only" entrance is to the right before the men's restroom.
Hallway:
The door is unlocked. Enter the narrow lighted L-shape hallway, watch the steps and traffic. Turn left into the first office. Go no further! Stop! Wait. Manager!
3) Just say manager and some brave HK Staffer will take you to the office. Do not use the stairs next to the DJ, unless escorted by a Staffer.
Speaking in Spanish with TJ cultural flavor would be a plus.
Spanglish ?
Off-site management team will be contacted for resolution and consultation depending on the situation. Be patient and polite.
Just do one prepaid activity at a time. Avoid the trip to the Complaint Booth Centro (CBC). Time is money. Response?
[QUOTE=Dornyone]I'm sure the line at the "complaints" booth was long and wide..........[/QUOTE]
By that detailed walkthrough, I'm guessing you did go to management to complain. What was their response?
Response?: A deep sense of shock and very surprised by the event or events. Went into careful verification processes stages with staffers. Polite and respectful but did not consult with off-site management in my presence. Finally into dead silent mode (DSM), I made an exit and headed home.
[QUOTE=Efjayel]By that detailed walkthrough, I'm guessing you did go to management to complain. What was their response?[/QUOTE]
There is a floor manager in HK,
a plump lady in her 40's with a black jacket and a clipboard.
She seems pretty nice, the girls are kinda afraid of her.
She can "ban" or fine any girl, and there are not a lot of alternative venues for those girls LOL. I have talked to her in Spanish, don't know if she speaks English.
You can always give her a buck and point out a girl you want, she will grab the girl by the arm and bring her to you. The advantage is that the girl will think you are "in the know". Most of the girls don't give a shit about the waiters or the manager upstairs, etc.
[QUOTE=Rabo Verde]There is a floor manager in HK, a plump lady in her 40's with a black jacket and a clipboard.
She seems pretty nice, the girls are kinda afraid of her.
She can "ban" or fine any girl, and there are not a lot of alternative venues for those girls LOL. I have talked to her in Spanish, don't know if she speaks English.
You can always give her a buck and point out a girl you want, she will grab the girl by the arm and bring her to you. The advantage is that the girl will think you are "in the know". Most of the girls don't give a shit about the waiters or the manager upstairs, etc.[/QUOTE]I can personally confirm this post. She will also give you the name of any girl that works there, or any other girl that you may not have seen working. She can tell you if they are on the schedule for that day, etc.
She also seems to keep the stage and 'bartop' dancers on schedule, as far as the rotation goes.
One thing to keep in mind, though, is that you can personally get the girls off stage just by going up and asking them to arriba...or get them to come down for a drink, although it's been my experience that they like doing those dances...one girl that I took to the room was excited to get back down to the club, because she was in line to get up to dance.
Dylan
[QUOTE=Sound7]Response?: A deep sense of shock and very surprised by the event or events. Went into careful verification processes stages with staffers. Polite and respectful but did not consult with off-site management in my presence. Finally into dead silent mode (DSM), I made an exit and headed home.[/QUOTE]
Could you try being a little more specific on your posts? Who went into "DSM?"
After some time the office staffers turned to "Dead Mode Silent" then I took my time and left.
[QUOTE=Efjayel]Could you try being a little more specific on your posts? Who went into "DSM?"[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Sound7]After some time the office staffers turned to "Dead Mode Silent" then I took my time and left.[/QUOTE]So you guys basically went into a staring contest until you decided to leave? lol, thats funny.
[QUOTE=Dylan]I can personally confirm this post. She will also give you the name of any girl that works there, or any other girl that you may not have seen working. She can tell you if they are on the schedule for that day, etc.[/QUOTE]
So that's who I need to speak to! She should know what happened to one my favorite girls that simply disappeared into oblivion.
Pr[b]i[/b]v[b]a[/b]do
Also, could you do us a favor and not make up your own abbreviations and phrase initials?
[QUOTE=Sound7]I could add a footnote if that helps.[/QUOTE]Just type simple and normal reports would be best. Like they say in the military, give it a KISS. Keep It Simple, Sir !
I had a job interview in Irvine yesterday, so I decided to dricve the rest of the way to TJ since I was an hour down the road from L.A. anyway.
I spent the afternoon with that crazy woman, Anthrax, who is actually pretty funny when you talk to her, so it was fun.
After going arriba, we sat around and had a couple of drinks, while I was looking (and tipping) the other girls.
At one point, Anthrax said, "you be better be careful - I jealous!"
I laughed and said, "well you should get over it, because I LOVE women!"
It got even more interesting after that. I guess she was then competing for my attention. I had her sitting on the barstool next to me, with her tits out, her legs spread wide, panties down, with my finger(s) in her pussy and kissing her, all the while looking at the other dancers and flirting with them.
(God, I love this bar)
After getting bored with that, I said that I wanted to go and watch the shaving cream show, and she followed me over there.
(There was a young-looking hottie named Jeanna, who said she does not go arriba, doing the show with another girl. It's probably a good thing that she does not go arriba, because i'd be driving back down there - she had the most naturally perfect body I've seen in a long time)
Anthrax ket saying "She young, but I experienced!") I asked her if she'd ever done that show, and she said, "NOT FOR ME!"
I asked what she meant, and she said "Many men, fingers in pussy and ass - I no like that."
That is pretty much my trip report. Low key, lots of fun.
That 'hooker jealousy' thing is a weird, strange phenomenon, I have to say.
What's up with that?
I'm starting to feel like Charlie Sheen who said, "I don't pay them for sex, I pay them to go away afterwards."
Dylan
[QUOTE=Dylan]I had a job interview in Irvine yesterday, so I decided to dricve the rest of the way to TJ since I was an hour down the road from L.A. anyway.
I spent the afternoon with that crazy woman, Anthrax, who is actually pretty funny when you talk to her, so it was fun.
After going arriba, we sat around and had a couple of drinks, while I was looking (and tipping) the other girls.
At one point, Anthrax said, "you be better be careful - I jealous!"
I laughed and said, "well you should get over it, because I LOVE women!"
It got even more interesting after that. I guess she was then competing for my attention. I had her sitting on the barstool next to me, with her tits out, her legs spread wide, panties down, with my finger(s) in her pussy and kissing her, all the while looking at the other dancers and flirting with them.
(God, I love this bar)
After getting bored with that, I said that I wanted to go and watch the shaving cream show, and she followed me over there.
(There was a young-looking hottie named Jeanna, who said she does not go arriba, doing the show with another girl. It's probably a good thing that she does not go arriba, because i'd be driving back down there - she had the most naturally perfect body I've seen in a long time)
Anthrax ket saying "She young, but I experienced!") I asked her if she'd ever done that show, and she said, "NOT FOR ME!"
I asked what she meant, and she said "Many men, fingers in pussy and ass - I no like that."
That is pretty much my trip report. Low key, lots of fun.
That 'hooker jealousy' thing is a weird, strange phenomenon, I have to say.
What's up with that?
I'm starting to feel like Charlie Sheen who said, "I don't pay them for sex, I pay them to go away afterwards."
Dylan[/QUOTE]
Nice TR.
I see from this, and another post, that good ol' Anthrax is back. I understand she was on maternity leave, or something.
Never went arriba with her (silicone is really not my thing) but she was always funny and seems to have a nice attitude. She also has a lot of mileage! :eek: Of course, so do everyone's faves. :)
[QUOTE=Phordphan]Nice TR.
I see from this, and another post, that good ol' Anthrax is back. I understand she was on maternity leave, or something.
Never went arriba with her (silicone is really not my thing) but she was always funny and seems to have a nice attitude. She also has a lot of mileage! :eek: Of course, so do everyone's faves. :)[/QUOTE]Thanks, Phordphan, yes, she does have lots of mileage, but then, so do I! LOL...
She must have been on leave - she says she has two daughters in Alcapulco.
Also, I'm not sure if they're silicon or not., especially the way they move during a very hard pounding!
Lately, I've actually been seeking out the more experienced chicas. I've been arrriba with a couple of the shy ones who tense up and won't get into it once you're in the room.
One the way up, I saw one of the really cute, shy ones coming down the stairs that I'd been with a week or so before, and i was glad not to be going up with her again...I'm sure you know, you have eye contact, and then they look away, but you know they remember you for sure.
It never ceases to amaze me at how nasty they act in the bar, but then 'close up' in the room.
I just kind of look at it as 'research'...as in "now I know not to repeat"
Dylan
I suck on those things and suck and suck and suck and suck!
They don't really feel unnatural at all. She's good looking and fun. I've only fucked her twice, but I should fuck her everytime just because. Nah too many HOTTER ones!
[QUOTE=Dylan]
At one point, Anthrax said, "you be better be careful - I jealous!"
I asked what she meant, and she said "Many men, fingers in pussy and ass - I no like that."
[/QUOTE]
It’s been quite a while since I posted or went down to TJ. The economy and job market is that bad! But the posting of… ahhh Anthrax, stirred fond memories and my groin.
She may have mentioned she was the jealous type, but in my experience, she’s anything but.
The best time was after a particularly good session arriba, we went back to the bar. At the time I was making her a regular stop on my trips and she knew it. Being a regular definitely helps. The girly show was just starting so we sat front and center to watch. She told me too that she didn’t do the lesbo show. She may have said she didn’t do it cause of all the fingers in her, but I think she is not into the girl-girl action.
During the show she rubbed my Johnson and gave me the lowdown on the all the bar girls; who was new, who had boyfriends, who was a *****, who was cool. It was a heavenly experience to watch two hotties in a live dildo lesbo show while getting my dick rubbed by a big titted gal who minutes before sucked me dry. After the show and my dick was allowed to go back to state that allowed me to walk to the bathroom; she had to bum a cigarette from the waiter; so when I went to take a leak I ran across the alley and picked her up a pack, her propina for an enthusiastic bbbj to finish our session. When I gave it to her, you would have thought I had given her a diamond ring.
She was finishing her shift and invited me to go out dancing with her and one of her friends. How could I say no? We stopped at a local restaurant first for a quick bite, then dancing. She was delighted that I thought she looked better in her street clothes than her bar outfit. (a line I have used before when seeing a girl out on the street, not working) Her friend was cute and very doable. She even asked me if I was interested in her friend, who worked at Chavales. I thought about it for a minute but declined. After we danced for a couple hours it was back to my room with some drinks. Since she had mentioned she wasn’t into girls I didn’t bother to ask her about a threesome, but they did hang out. When the TV came on and porno was the first thing on they laughed, but wanted to watch, yesss.
So there it was; my second heavenly experience of the night. On a bed with two girls watching pornos and getting their commentary on what they saw.
It was now late and her friend went home, we jumped in the shower and lathered each other up and she stayed for a TLN and gave me my second PSE of the night. Her service is good, but her service with a smile is great!
I'd actually read about Anthrax on this board before I met her.
When she came up to me in the bar, I said, "hey, I've heard of you, but do you realize that Anthrax is a POISON? "
She said yes, "but you'll remember my name, right? "
When I saw her this week, she kept saying, "I'm Anthrax, and you're my VICTIM! "
She said something to the desk clerk when we went arriba, and they both laughed. I asked her what the exchange was, and she'd said the same thing to him.
Fun, fun, fun.
I love Tijuana. Home of two of my favorite things. Margaritas and Caesar Salad.
Not to mention the CHICAS!
Dylan
I made quite a find. Don’t know if she’s been reviewed here before (haven’t been keeping up), but Amika (ah mee ka) from El Salvador has shot up to #1 on my ATF list.
Here’s the story: Went to HK a couple nights ago (Thursday) and it was a zoo. I think it was their anniversary of the expansion or something. Outside there were a guy and chica in clown outfits on stilts, and another clown stilt guy outside the old entrance (on the SW street).
Inside it was PACKED with guys and chicas. I mean PACKED, you could barely move. Most of the chicas where in Mardi Gras outfits, and the stage shows were tame, more of a party kinda dancing than strip shows. With so many people in there, it was way, way hot.
I went to the new bar on the second floor and had a beer and cuervo. The stool I was on was getting a little air conditioning breeze, so it was tolerable. The place was jumping and LOUD and fun, but that made the usual business difficult. I was keeping an eye out for my latest love, Beya, for another of her wonderful BBBJCIMs, but didn’t see her.
It was about 11 p.m. or so. Decided to take a walk and see if things would cool down a bit later. Did a walk through all the bars around there to just check them out and waste some time. A few have strip shows, but they tend to be pretty tame. Hard to understand why some of them don’t try to emulate HK’s success and wild things up a bit with their own lesbo shows and girls willing to show a little pussy once in a while.
Went back to HK sometime after midnight. Still packed. But dancing on the nearest table was my lovely Beya! No drinks, just immediate arriba. I’ve reviewed her before, very nice looking with all the makeup (she does it really well, so she looks really nice). I just go for the BBBJ with her cuz it’s so good. She takes every drop of my load without a blink. Nice!
Then back across the border for the night.
Then next day, I come back to HK at about 11 a.m. Quite a difference. Not a lot of chicas around (probably all still sleeping off last night), less than a dozen guys there. No one was on the stage yet when I got there, but after a few minutes, up went Amika. Nice dancing, nice body (good booty, really nice tits, enhanced a bit but really nice to the touch).
And even though she was, I think, the first dancer of the day, there wasn’t a moment’s hesitation about her moving her panties aside for a little finger play. Lots of eye contact, smiles and nice soft kiss too. Amazing what $1 gets you in TJ.
After her set, was waiting for her to come back and enjoyed some of the same great $1 value with the next several chicas. I always like to do a little finger dip with each of the girls, then check out the aroma. Some are a bit funky, most likely from guys fingering them all day (GUYS: Wash your fucking hands when you’re there, and throw the bathroom guy a buck or at least a quarter, don’t be a dick).
Takes a while for her to come back down. I’m weighing my options, but decide to approach Amika. Told her I liked her dancing and wanted to take her to the hotel. Up we go.
I usually don’t negotiate first. Makes it too biz-like, which turns the girl off. Things go better when she thinks you’re into her and your first priority is to fuck her, not bargain with her like she’s something at a swapmeet. I get better mileage that way, and seemed to rarely get what was promised back when I did the bargaining.
We get upstairs and I start to get undressed. She immediately begins DFK’ing me. We’re still standing at that little counter thing in the room. She takes off her dress and starts rubbing that nice booty against my firming up dick. I slip her panties down and give her a little lick. She puts her knee up on the counter to the side and spreads those devine lips apart. I dive in for some sweet DATY. Just a minute or two and I figure we’re ready to take this to the bed. She again rubs her ass and pussy against my now hard cock. I make the move to get in there sin condom. Then the big surprise. She goes for it.
I’m in heaven, BB fucking this lovely from behind. Her pussy is nice and wet, feels like I’m fucking silk. After a couple minutes we move to the bed, doing doggy, then go mish for a long time. I never wanted it to end. She genuinely seemed to cum a couple times (real or faked well, all the same to me). She could tell I was about to let loose. I expected her to tell me to pull out or she would just scoot back at the last minute, but no. Splashed up in there like it was Christmas. OMFG! I am completely in love.
After, we even cuddled for a bit. I go take a shower. When I come out, she’s sitting up by the sink rinsing my cum out and giving me a big smile. Damn! I told her she’s now mi esposa de TJ. Gave her 100 for a job very well done.
I don’t get down to TJ very often, but I’m going to have to figure a way to get back down there again soon.
Usually I’d keep something this good to myself, but I want to make sure she makes some good money and sticks around TJ for a while.
Have at it boys, she won’t disappoint.
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[QUOTE=Lulu Pussy] I always like to do a little finger dip with each of the girls, then check out the aroma. Some are a bit funky, most likely from guys fingering them all day (GUYS: Wash your fucking hands when you’re there, and throw the bathroom guy a buck or at least a quarter, don’t be a dick). [/QUOTE]Nothing wrong with getting a heads up before you go arriba. Be careful to how you finger them,some ways are better than others.
Thanks for the TR, LP.
I met Amika once, and she does have a very sweet personality. IMHO, you paid a serious premium for a high-mileage day-shift girl.
She has a lot of reviews on the TJA board, including, IIRC, her penchant for BBFS. But memory is a bit fuzzy. One thing that is not fuzzy is the assertion that she has/had an STD and may have passed it on. Genital warts, to be exact. :eek:
Be careful out there...
[QUOTE=Phordphan]Thanks for the TR, LP.
I met Amika once, and she does have a very sweet personality. IMHO, you paid a serious premium for a high-mileage day-shift girl.
She has a lot of reviews on the TJA board, including, IIRC, her penchant for BBFS. But memory is a bit fuzzy. One thing that is not fuzzy is the assertion that she has/had an STD and may have passed it on. Genital warts, to be exact. :eek:
Be careful out there...[/QUOTE]To each his own. Putting on a hat is obviously more prudent than not. But, at my age, a tiny risk for a lot more fun is my choice. I've gone BBBJ and BBFS every time I can. Got be at least a couple hundred times. I've never, ever caught anything more than a cold or flu from a provider. And a hat won't do anything about that. I'm grateful that the vast majority of my fellow PLs have the good sense to bag it to even further reduce my risk. Ya pays yo money and you takes yo chances. If only I had such a track record at the tables in Vegas.
[QUOTE=Lulu Pussy]
I always like to do a little finger dip with each of the girls, then check out the aroma. Some are a bit funky, most likely from guys fingering them all day (GUYS: Wash your fucking hands when you’re there, and throw the bathroom guy a buck or at least a quarter, don’t be a dick).
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Hand washing is more than good personal hygiene practice. One of the first things I do as I enter the room is go to the bathroom and wash my hands real well, hot water and lots of soap. Since I often stay at Cascadas I already have my own decent soap and towel in the bathroom, not the crap potato chip bar and rag towel the front desk hands out.
The girls like the fact that I clean myself up before touching them and most importantly it puts them at ease.
Remember it is things you handle, that have been handled by someone who is sick, that is most likely what gets you sick. Then you put your hand to your mouth, say sip a beer or take a drag off your cigarette. A lot is touched in the bars, and I mean more that the girl’s asses, pussies, and tits. Do you think those pesky waiters actually care about your health and go out of their way to wash their hands before they open the beer bottle and hand it to you? Add to that all the other things you touch (table tops, chairs, door handles, ect.) that have been touched by countless other mongers. Often you will read on these threads about a monger who got sick after their TJ visit. Well, the best way to prevent that from happening is washing your hands with soap and hot water.
Wash well and wash often.
[QUOTE=Surfnk9] the best way to prevent that from happening is washing your hands with soap and hot water.
Wash well and wash often.[/QUOTE]Hand Sanitizer is even better. You can get a travel bottle for one dollar or so with or without alcohol (preferred). This is my favorite because it is fast drying and you can use it sitting at the table.
[QUOTE=Lulu Pussy]To each his own. Putting on a hat is obviously more prudent than not. But, at my age, a tiny risk for a lot more fun is my choice. I've gone BBBJ and BBFS every time I can. Got be at least a couple hundred times. I've never, ever caught anything more than a cold or flu from a provider. And a hat won't do anything about that. I'm grateful that the vast majority of my fellow PLs have the good sense to bag it to even further reduce my risk.[/QUOTE]
But you don't seem to care about reducing ours. Have you had a blood test recently? You don't get an STD and 24 hours later you're sick. They develop over a long period and in that phase you could be spreading it to others.
Just an FYI,
. And I'm NOT trying to pass any judgments. You should be aware that Chlamydia (sp? ) can be passed through BBFS or a BBBJ.
You can have it (and carry it) without ever even knowing it, all the while passing or exposing others, and it will never even show up until a full blood screen is done.
It's one of the main infections that porn stars in the San Fernando Valley catch all the time, so don't kid yourself.
I LOVE BBBJ's as much as any monger, but I now am aware of the risk.
Dylan
[QUOTE=Lulu Pussy,
Here’s the story: Went to HK a couple nights ago (Thursday) and it was a zoo. I think it was their anniversary of the expansion or something. Outside there were a guy and chica in clown outfits on stilts, and another clown stilt guy outside the old entrance (on the SW street).
Inside it was PACKED with guys and chicas. I mean PACKED, you could barely move. Most of the chicas where in Mardi Gras outfits, and the stage shows were tame, more of a party kinda dancing than strip shows. With so many people in there, it was way, way hot.
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HK Thursday, July 23 - 19th Event.
Thing changed at 7:59 at HK, one single event caused the exit. Big bang .. very loud fire cracker explosion on the main stage.
Shift change or a ruptured ear drum to cause such a mass exit.
[QUOTE=Sexcape]I was there too @ around 6pm. The place was packed. I'm taking it is not always that way? It was too packed for my liking. I would be way more down to hang out if it were half as crowded. Throw down some bills. But there were a lot of hotties on stage. It was a mad house. I found it super annoying how the chicks were wearing masks and how the dudes were filming the chicks on stage. I under stand it was for the tvs. But I think its a great place and would def go back. Can't wait.[/QUOTE]
The big show Thurs night was that stripper of the year contest where they gave away that salvaged red 2001 toyota they had in front of HK for so long. Lizette a longtime veteran stripper won I think though she wasnt the best dancer she knows how to get around...
HK is prob the most consistantly busy bar in the zona now. They usually have girls danceing everywhere, promo sash girls to lure guys in though most sash girls wont fuck, the nastiest shows most of the time, vip rooms and privado booths. It feels like a vegas style strip joint but nastier. The downside is most of the girls arent as good looking as AB's and the meseros cant be real jerks or thieves.
Based on the events of last Thursday HK has the most tested pussies in TJ with lots of pokes, suck, feel and probes to show - main, rear and 2nd floor stages.
I did see one American get carried away with his muti feel process and the server stepped in. A true freebie !
A local well dressed sucked a pussy for whole five seconds on main stage ... all for $1 and big smile.
Clean hand and mouth, HIN1 is back in the Global News.
No all HK girls do the stage show.
No special Arriba and Hotel Cascade discount.
New females at the club, just hanging out with a "friend." Very few clients and minimum dance activity. Chance to meet a newcomer and chat. Be alert for the "Ponzi Drink Program." Avoid it by exiting.
It is important to be a moving target within reason at HK. Having a tempo does help and knowing the advantage and disadvantage of a particular location might aid in some situation. Taking direction from the waiter is a mixed blessing as in most cases he is looking to optimize his or her nightly earnings. HINI is common in the restrooms, use hand cleaners.
Others in this forum have addressed issues including drugs, alcohol, mental R, planet 9, e.t.c.....
Be a moving target and treat HK as a refueling center.
God Bless You
Copy and paste this into Google Earth to find the location of heaven on Earth:
32°32'15.72"N, 117° 2'24.29"W, then zoom in.
32°32'14.13"N, 117° 2'24.11"W is the back door to heaven.
[QUOTE=Sound7]Be alert for the "Ponzi Drink Program." Avoid it by exiting.[/QUOTE]Care to elaborate what this Ponzi scheme is?
[QUOTE=Sound7]Others in this forum have addressed issues including drugs, alcohol, mental R, planet 9, e.t.c..... [/QUOTE]mental R? As mentally retarted? I don't think you're too far off. lol
What's planet 9?
[QUOTE=Lulu Pussy]Copy and paste this into Google Earth to find the location of heaven on Earth:
32°32'15.72"N, 117° 2'24.29"W, then zoom in.
32°32'14.13"N, 117° 2'24.11"W is the back door to heaven.[/QUOTE]Yeah, I've checked that out before. Must have been a monday morning when they took that picture cause the zona and Tj in general was pretty slow that day.
[QUOTE=Efjayel] What's planet 9?[/QUOTE]I referred to him (sound 7) as Planet 7 because the way he talks, he is on a different world. Sometimes he is rational but most of the time. Well, you have read the reports.
[QUOTE=Efjayel]Care to elaborate what this Ponzi scheme is? [/QUOTE]
Ponzi programs are to create a great expectation and a surprise reward and in the HK Ponzi scheme program, it works the same way.
Breakdown of the HK Ponzi Scheme:
HK Ponzi Scheme: Expectation of an Arriba with a Hot Chica for drinks {(Typical Chica Beer $7+tip } + Others ($12 + tip)}
This chica does not do arriba regardless, but you do not know this fact.
In 30 minutes or less you will out of $100 or more with most going towards "Chica drink" wasted on the floor or cleared. Waiters (plural) grabs unfinished drinks to sell more drinks. Constant waiters traffic and asking "another drink Amigo." and Standard repeated phrase "Amigo good chics." "You go?", lol.
This chica does not "go." for a test drive at the present time. It is show case model for attraction. and Ponzi drink scheme.
Waiters are in charge of spending your money.
Chica is in charge to stay or leave, 20 minutes later might leave you a telephone number to call as a future contact.
Choice:
Stay away from HK Ponzi scheme, if you can.
[QUOTE=Efjayel]Care to elaborate what this Ponzi scheme is? [/QUOTE]
Question 2:
[QUOTE=Efjayel]What's planet 9? [/QUOTE]
Our solar system is made up of planets and it was considered to have nine planets and this view has been expanded to question the "Planet 9" model more into the "String therory.". This is being hotly contested in the scientific community as we search for the answer in the Big Bang or Universal theories.
Sex climax is described as a "Big Bang" in literature.
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[QUOTE=Efjayel]What's planet 9? [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Efjayel]Care to elaborate what this Ponzi scheme is?[/QUOTE]
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ponzi_scheme[/url]
I had to look it up.
[QUOTE=Sound7]Ponzi programs are to create a great expectation and a surprise reward and in the HK Ponzi scheme program, it works the same way.
Breakdown of the HK Ponzi Scheme:
HK Ponzi Scheme: Expectation of an Arriba with a Hot Chica for drinks {(Typical Chica Beer $7+tip } + Others ($12 + tip)}
This chica does not do arriba regardless, but you do not know this fact.
In 30 minutes or less you will out of $100 or more with most going towards "Chica drink" wasted on the floor or cleared. Waiters (plural) grabs unfinished drinks to sell more drinks. Constant waiters traffic and asking "another drink Amigo." and Standard repeated phrase "Amigo good chics." "You go?", lol.
This chica does not "go." for a test drive at the present time. It is show case model for attraction. and Ponzi drink scheme.
Waiters are in charge of spending your money.
Chica is in charge to stay or leave, 20 minutes later might leave you a telephone number to call as a future contact.
Choice:
Stay away from HK Ponzi scheme, if you can.
[/QUOTE][/QUOTE]In a nutshell,what he is talking about is what we call being "fishca fucked".
Well I'm sure most of us aren't dumb enough to be duped into buying more than one drink for a girl before finding out that she doesn't go arriba. The chicas won't lie that they will go upstairs with you as long as you keep buying them drinks then change their minds afterwards. That would be very bad for their business.
u:
Sexual climax experience is more enjoyable for men in general than wasting tons of dollars in a "Ponzi Program." HK has a Ponzi program in effect.
Keep your eyes open and hold on to your money for your choice of a "Chica & u" program at HK.
Enjoy
S7
[QUOTE=Sound7]Ponzi programs are to create a great expectation and a surprise reward and in the HK Ponzi scheme program, it works the same way.
Breakdown of the HK Ponzi Scheme:
HK Ponzi Scheme: Expectation of an Arriba with a Hot Chica for drinks {(Typical Chica Beer $7+tip } + Others ($12 + tip)}
This chica does not do arriba regardless, but you do not know this fact.
In 30 minutes or less you will out of $100 or more with most going towards "Chica drink" wasted on the floor or cleared. Waiters (plural) grabs unfinished drinks to sell more drinks. Constant waiters traffic and asking "another drink Amigo." and Standard repeated phrase "Amigo good chics." "You go?", lol.
This chica does not "go." for a test drive at the present time. It is show case model for attraction. and Ponzi drink scheme.
Waiters are in charge of spending your money.
Chica is in charge to stay or leave, 20 minutes later might leave you a telephone number to call as a future contact.
Choice:
Stay away from HK Ponzi scheme, if you can.
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Does this represent your average experience with a girl in HK? Do you have LOSER tattooed on your forehead?
I don't know anybody, even rank rookies, who have blown through $100 in ficha drinks in 30 minutes. That's over 12 drinks, including tips. If you haven't gotten a good vibe in 30 minutes, and 2 drinks MAX, it's time to move on.
If you're getting fleeced this badly, it's your own fault. Maybe it's time to find a new hobby? :)
Very original.
[QUOTE=Phordphan]Does this represent your average experience with a girl in HK? Do you have LOSER tattooed on your forehead?
I don't know anybody, even rank rookies, who have blown through $100 in ficha drinks in 30 minutes. That's over 12 drinks, including tips. If you haven't gotten a good vibe in 30 minutes, and 2 drinks MAX, it's time to move on.
If you're getting fleeced this badly, it's your own fault. Maybe it's time to find a new hobby? :)[/QUOTE]
I am not implying that this pertains to Sound7's experience but in some Mexican S/C's a small percentage of the girls do not offer themselves for sex and are there to simply fleece customers for drinks. The club owners do not care so long as they are generating income but it really is a bad business practice. Kind of like paying an entrance fee(ficha) to an amusement park only to find out that the ride you want to go on is not operating.
[QUOTE=Dylan]I can personally confirm this post. She will also give you the name of any girl that works there, or any other girl that you may not have seen working. She can tell you if they are on the schedule for that day, etc.
She also seems to keep the stage and 'bartop' dancers on schedule, as far as the rotation goes.
One thing to keep in mind, though, is that you can personally get the girls off stage just by going up and asking them to arriba...or get them to come down for a drink, although it's been my experience that they like doing those dances...one girl that I took to the room was excited to get back down to the club, because she was in line to get up to dance.
Dylan[/QUOTE]
Her name is Carmen and she knows which ones are good because she has licked half their pussies! She used to go out with a friend of mine Edith. Let's just say that Carment gets around.
Today was my first time going to Hong kong bar, so I am completely a rookie even though I have been to TJ many times. Now that I got that out the way. I got my passport after a little less than a month! Couldnt wait to use it. Parked at the border by Jack in the box $5, then took a cab to Hong Kong.
Even though I had read my reviews on this board and others, I had know idea what to expect. As soon as I walked in, part of the staff tried to seat me and asked me what type of drink I wanted. Now I must say, that constant effort to get me to buy a lady drink was getting on my nerves.I just wanted to sit down and enjoy the place for a minute, but I couldnt.
An alright girl came right up to me and told me she would give me a good blow job etc while whispering in my ear and grabbing on my dick, but I wanted to take in my surroundings first. Then the waiter bought a girl to my table. I declined her lady drink about 3 times! She was nice enough to take upstairs so i just wanted to end all the harassment lol.
Her names was Daniella. About 5'7 130 with nice boobs. She spoke no english, but with my limited basic spanish we agreed on $60. Paid the $11 for the room and While in the hotel room upstairs I washed in the sink and she hopped in the shower. She came out with those nice natural boobs (dont mind fake ones though) put the condom on me for a CBJ. After a few mins I pulled her on top of me for CG then Mish. She did not want me to do doggie. She said I was too big. I think she thought I wanted to do anal.
We both cleaned up in the shower and that was that. It wasnt the experience I had hoped, with Hong Kong, but I got the first one out of the way and I know it will get better. Any suggestions on what I can do to have a better experience. From reading the board, I knew the drink thing would be a problem, but damn.
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Steelcan:
IMHO:
1. Just say No. They are experts at wearing down Gringos, and think nothing of asking as many times as it takes until they get a yes, especially when they detect a hint of weakness.
2. Tell her that you just sessioned and are not ready now. When she says, "You buy me one drink"? They answer is no, unless you really want to buy her one.
3. When sitting in bar (especially HK) put a napkin around your drink so they can't tell how much you have left, and keep your hand around it. When they ask, just a firm not yet, and wave the bottle at them.
4. When sitting in a booth, if possible, sit on the outside so no one can sit next to you. If a lady comes up and says move over, and you don't want her, just say no. Again, "Buy me one drink? ", No.
Many guys, myself included, on their first few trips to Tijuana are way too nice. If they catch any wavering in your no, that is like saying yes to them. They will wear you down. Without being nasty, or disrespectful, a very firm No, and then look away from them, will almost always work. If they sense that they cannot make any money off you from the start, they move along quickly. The slightest hint of maybe and they will stick to you like superglue.
Without being rude, or nasty, a very firm No will usually do the trick. If they persist even after firm No's just walk away.
[QUOTE=Phordphan]Does this represent your average experience with a girl in HK? Do you have LOSER tattooed on your forehead?
I don't know anybody, even rank rookies, who have blown through $100 in ficha drinks in 30 minutes. That's over 12 drinks, including tips. If you haven't gotten a good vibe in 30 minutes, and 2 drinks MAX, it's time to move on.
If you're getting fleeced this badly, it's your own fault. Maybe it's time to find a new hobby? :)[/QUOTE]
With all the "schemes" they have put him through like the medical test before sex, $100 dollar drink scam and the others, maybe there is something on him that spells out "i'm a sucker" before he even goes into the bars. lol
Yes, "HK Fishca Fucked = HK Ponzi Scheme"
QUOTE=Sgt Perv
[/QUOTE]In a nutshell,what he is talking about is what we call being "fishca fucked".[/QUOTE]
As SP has identified the term "Fishca Fucked" for the events of HK Ponzi scheme - it is a fast moving wave to empty ones pocket in a very short time like overcharging for drinks, bringing drinks without requesting by various waiters, buying drinks for her friends and all smiles .... all in the hope of this Chica score.
Beauty and kindness may not have bounds at times, resulting in departing from your hard earned cash.
Many guys, myself included, on their first few trips to Tijuana are way too nice. If they catch any wavering in your no, that is like saying yes to them. They will wear you down. Without being nasty, or disrespectful, a very firm No, and then look away from them, will almost always work. If they sense that they cannot make any money off you from the start, they move along quickly. The slightest hint of maybe and they will stick to you like superglue.
Quote: SS
Hard to break the superglue bond. Elevated temperature melts and burns the superglue in the physical world of metals. In this world loss of capital is at stake in a game of FF and saving face.
First ever mongering could run into $$ at HK, unless one understood HKFF and the SS posting from the start and can counter the advances.
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SS, Supersteve
Hong Kong Fischa Fucked (HKFF)
Medical exam? , Chica is not a MD. more like a dick feel and visual look. Personal satisfaction is at stake for the chica.
Hundred seems reasonable for a HK Fischa Fucked for a Newbie. I am sure some else in this has experienced greater expenditure at HK on the first mongering experience but may not be comfortable to come forward to avoid group comments. These comments have a life of their own and have noting to do with facts.
HK is not concerned about the client's status or safety from excessive drinks. Something to think about before the next visit.
I am aware FJL is on very restricted diet for few days prior to TJ visit and on a H20 program only in TJ, HK Ponzi scheme does not come into play.
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MD: Medical Doctor, Medical Exam
H20: Bottle water
[QUOTE=Sound7]It seems reasonable for a HK Fischa Fucked for a Newbie. I am sure some else in this has experienced greater expenditure at HK but are not comfortable to come forward to avoid comments.
HK is not concerned about the client's status or safety from excessive drinks. Something to think about during a visit.[/QUOTE]The ficha fucking goes on all the time to many people and not just in TJ but some catch on faster than others. Most will not admit it ( something to do with their pride) and of course the clubs do not give a damn how drunk you get as long as you are spending money and not causing a problem.
Got to remember the clubs are making $3 or more on each drink they sell you so if you are foolish enough to buy past your limit ,they are smart enough to keep selling the drinks. Drunks tend to be looser with their money. A lot of men foolishly try to impress chicas with the amount of money they are spending.
[QUOTE=Sound7]
Hard to break the superglue bond.
[/QUOTE]
How about just telling her to "get lost...?"
Yeah. REAL HARD.
CC
"No Gracias," command works.
[QUOTE=Supersteve]Steelcan:
IMHO:
1. Just say No. They are experts at wearing down Gringos, and think nothing of asking as many times as it takes until they get a yes, especially when they detect a hint of weakness.
2. Tell her that you just sessioned and are not ready now. When she says, "You buy me one drink"? They answer is no, unless you really want to buy her one.
3. When sitting in bar (especially HK) put a napkin around your drink so they can't tell how much you have left, and keep your hand around it. When they ask, just a firm not yet, and wave the bottle at them.
4. When sitting in a booth, if possible, sit on the outside so no one can sit next to you. If a lady comes up and says move over, and you don't want her, just say no. Again, "Buy me one drink? ", No.
Many guys, myself included, on their first few trips to Tijuana are way too nice. If they catch any wavering in your no, that is like saying yes to them. They will wear you down. Without being nasty, or disrespectful, a very firm No, and then look away from them, will almost always work. If they sense that they cannot make any money off you from the start, they move along quickly. The slightest hint of maybe and they will stick to you like superglue.
Without being rude, or nasty, a very firm No will usually do the trick. If they persist even after firm No's just walk away.[/QUOTE]I wish I had read this first lol. Great info. Toftt or at least the newbies after me. Stay tuned for my next post utilizing my new wisdon. Also look out for my other report & rookie mistake that I made in the tijuana report section when I went to Mermaids across the street lol. We all got to learn some time.
[QUOTE=Sound7]"No Gracias," command works.[/QUOTE]
Oh, ok. My bad. I'll try that then. I should probably stop throwing my empty beer bottles across the room as well huh....
CC
Make sure to miss the LE at HK.
[QUOTE=Cobra Comander]Oh, ok. My bad. I'll try that then. I should probably stop throwing my empty beer bottles across the room as well huh....
CC[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Efjayel]With all the "schemes" they have put him through like the medical test before sex, $100 dollar drink scam and the others, maybe there is something on him that spells out "i'm a sucker" before he even goes into the bars. lol[/QUOTE]
It's either the tattoo, or the My Favorite Martian antennae. :eek:
It is the Force. lol
[QUOTE=Phordphan]It's either the tattoo, or the My Favorite Martian antennae. :eek:[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Sound7]Medical exam? , Chica is not a MD. more like a dick feel and visual look. Personal satisfaction is at stake for the chica.
Hundred seems reasonable for a HK Fischa Fucked for a Newbie. I am sure some else in this has experienced greater expenditure at HK on the first mongering experience but may not be comfortable to come forward to avoid group comments. These comments have a life of their own and have noting to do with facts.
HK is not concerned about the client's status or safety from excessive drinks. Something to think about before the next visit.
I am aware FJL is on very restricted diet for few days prior to TJ visit and on a H20 program only in TJ, HK Ponzi scheme does not come into play.
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lol, you do pay attention.
I usually go with my favoritas and each time they are having a drink with me, I tell them to drink it slowly. Doesn't usually work though since they are constantly being watched.
I'm not ashamed to admit I have had the ponzi scheme done on me but it wasn't because I was duped into it. I simply wanted to spend more time with the girl and bought her 3 drinks. That's the most I've ever bought drinks for one girl.
One trip the most drinks I've bought in all for different girls was about six. That came out to about $50 bucks including tips. On that trip I was a still a rookie and took $400 dollars. I spent all of it that day. It was 3 girls, many drinks, lots of cash spent, and a lot of screwing. Looking back on it, it was a big waste of money but the memories will last forever. :)
[QUOTE=Cobra Comander]Oh, ok. My bad. I'll try that then. I should probably stop throwing my empty beer bottles across the room as well huh....
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that would be funny. But now that I think of it, none of the bars have security walking around. Unless they get the meseros to also do bouncer work.
I have seen the private security force plus TJ LE. TJ LE standing at the front entrance is common on major events. I am sure HK has bouncers too in addition to the tough waiter.
[QUOTE=Efjayel]that would be funny. But now that I think of it, none of the bars have security walking around. Unless they get the meseros to also do bouncer work.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Sound7]I have seen the private security force plus TJ LE. TJ LE standing at the front entrance is common on major events. I am sure HK has bouncers too in addition to the tough waiter.[/QUOTE]
They don't. The meseros act as the bouncers.
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HA! Yeah, like YOU have regulars!!!!!!!!!!! Bwahahahahaha! (just busting your chops duder.) :)
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You'd be surprised with some of the shit you can get away with.... Not necessarily proud of it but.... Just saying. i try and keep my nights interesting. And if you start that shit things get REAL INTERESTING REAL QUICK. LMAO!
I Just got back actually. I'll post my report tomorrow, Peace!
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Spent some time in the Hong Kong Club recently, after an absence of several months. Thought I'd share my impressions with the group.
THE CROWDS: Way down compared to when I visited last. On a recent Friday night at 11:30 there were empty booths and lots of clear floor space throughout the club.
THE TALENT: Frankly, I wasn't impressed. The Hong Kong Club has always had a gross tonnage problem, but several months ago it seemed like they were making progress. Unfortunately there's been some backsliding and this trip I saw far more gorditas. I'm not adverse to girls with a few curves. But I saw at least a dozen total heifers. And there is nothing sadder than a bovine babe stuffed into clothes that don't fit trying to look sexy. (Insert Sideshow Bob grossed out grumble here.) There were also two or three "alt" chicks, complete with extensive tattoos, piercings and two-toned hair. I realize some guys like that look, and if you do good on ya. But not my cup of tea.
Also not to my taste is the addition of a four-foot-tall GUY to the lineup of dancers. Again, if this type of entertainment moves your fun needle I take no offense. But when I patronize what purports to be a strip club catering to straight men I find it incongruous to see a miniature buffed up dude prancing around shirtless in short-shorts.
Last night I saw maybe six girls I would consider attractive. The superstars were a couple of hard-bodied hotties splashing around in the bath tub. They were both brunettes, both about 5'3" and 105 pounds with perky natural tits. In addition to being in shape, they had gorgeous faces and smooth golden skin that looked great all soaped up under the lights. For a dollar tip I got to fondle their slippery tits and ass. If there's a better value in the Zona Norte I don't know what it is.
THE VIBE: Very much more mercenary than the last time I visited. As others have noted in this thread the girls are pushier than they used to be. If you are sitting down one approaches every few minutes, plops herself down at your side, and tries to hustle a drink or a privado. (They also solicit you when you're walking around the club, something that used to be rare.) I can't fault them for trying, but it torques my nut when they won't take no for an answer.
These interactions used to follow a pattern: a few words of small talk, followed by the girl's pitch (and perhaps a little mutual groping) at which point a polite "possiblimente despues" was enough to send them on their way. Both parties affected good natured bonhomie and the atmosphere was light. But these days about half the girls don't get up until I give them a ten pound look and take a certain tone. This adds a darker element to the meeting and as the hipsters say, harshes my mellow.
The waiters are a mixed bag. I was pleased that they didn't give me a hard time when I waved off their offers of another beer. (Although if you were obviously nursing a single drink for hours I suspect they'd be more insistent.) They arrive at your table nanoseconds after the girls sit down. But again they will take no for answer and unlike the chicas there isn't any pushback. But since the last time I was in there the waiters have added the potato chip scam to their repertoire. Bush league.
THE PRIVADOS: Still $20 for about 10 minutes, but higher mileage than the last time I was there, at least with the girls I chose. I can recommend a tall brunette with a lean body and a boob job who's name I think was Brenda. She one of the handful of chicas I think is pretty hot, and in the booth she's up-front about the extras. For an extra $20 she offers a hand job, and for an extra $60 she offers a condomized blow job. Getting jacked off by a strip club hottie for $40 strikes me as a decent value, especially if you dig the sleaze factor of doing it in the privado booth. The $80 blowjob is not worth it in my book, especially when half an hour in the hotel with the hottest girl at the Adelita Bar goes for $73 all inclusive. YMMV.
Honorable mention goes to Estrella, a more, um, "mature" woman whose sweet disposition makes up for her fading looks. Lots of deep french kissing in the booth, plenty of attention to Mr. Wood, and a little finger banging as well.
I noticed a handful of girls who cruised the area outside the privado booths, trying to solicit business. With the exception of Brenda, they were all disgusting. The vast majority of the girls, including all the hotties save Brenda, mostly stuck to the ground floor. I'm sure they could be persuaded to come upstairs for a privado, but there is always the inverse correlation between hotness and mileage.
THE CRIME: I regret to report that my pocket was picked by one of the girls in the Hong Kong Club on Thursday night about 9:30. I was sitting by myself in a ground floor booth near the exit to the alley. My left side faced the club, and my right faced the wall. I was wearing a short sleeve button shirt with a pocket on the left breast where I had stashed about $15.
Two girls approached together. One was a dancer, about 5'2" with shoulder length dark hair and a semi-cute round face. She was wearing a strapless cocktail dress. The other girl was one of the promotadoras. She was wearing dark shorts and a white crop top.
The girls did not sit down. Rather they stood over me with the first girl at my left shoulder and the second girl to her left. The first girl pushed her tits into my face and placed her right hand on the back of my head. This totally blocked my vision for a few seconds and partially obscured it for a few more such that I could see the second girl but not the first. It was at this point that I theorize the first girl reached into my pocket and stole the money. I say "theorize" because I must admit I was bastante borracho at the time. (Which, of course, made me a target.)
Losing $15 is no big deal. But getting my pocket picked at a club that fancies itself the nicest the in the Zona Norte was disappointing. This is the type of bullshit that used to go on at Avenida Revolucion clip joints, and it's depressing to see it spreading to what passes for an upscale place. This put me in a foul humor, and for the next hour or so I told the girls who tried to hustle me that I wasn't in the mood for a drink or a dance "because one of your amigas stole money from me earlier." To my eye none of them seemed surprised. So as the sergeant on Hill Street Blues used to say, let's all be careful out there.
CONCLUSION: It would appear the global economic slowdown has severely reduced the amount of discretionary leisure spending at the Hong Kong Club. In response most of the chicas are hustling harder than ever, and at least one has crossed over into petty crime. Meanwhile with the exception of half a dozen hotties the lineup is subpar. Still, a good time can be had if you remember that you are in control and if you are patient enough to hold out for a high mileage privado from the likes of Brenda.
Regards,
Bunky
Nice report bunky. It's possible you where pick pocketed.
There are times when I keep loose bills in my pocket and stick my hand to grab something else the bills come up as well and I lose the money. I now avoid that by keeping money and other pocket stuff like my cell phone separate.
$20 dollars for a hand job and $60 dollars for a bj in the private booth sounds pricey. I've done the HJ for $5 dollars and the blowjob for $50.
Sounds bad that HK is becoming like one of the other clip joints and that the girls are geting aggressive. I've hardly had aggressive girls at HK come up to me. That's more of an AB thing. Guess the economy is still changing things for the worst.
[QUOTE=Cobra Comander]You'd be surprised with some of the shit you can get away with.... Not necessarily proud of it but.... Just saying. i try and keep my nights interesting. And if you start that shit things get REAL INTERESTING REAL QUICK. LMAO!
I Just got back actually. I'll post my report tomorrow, Peace!
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Now I'm curious to know what kind of things you've gotten away with. Please post :)
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CONCLUSION: It would appear the global economic slowdown has severely reduced the amount of discretionary leisure spending at the Hong Kong Club. In response most of the chicas are hustling harder than ever, and at least one has crossed over into petty crime. Meanwhile with the exception of half a dozen hotties the lineup is subpar. Still, a good time can be had if you remember that you are in control and if you are patient enough to hold out for a high mileage privado from the likes of Brenda.
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Couldn't have said it better myself. The same is true in business generally in Baja right now but it is still manageable. I know that many girls are giving up using the condoms for a few extra pesos because they know most mongers (especially gringos) like poking in the raw. Avoid this temptation at all costs mongers.
[QUOTE=Country John] I know that many girls are giving up using the condoms for a few extra pesos because they know most mongers (especially gringos) like poking in the raw. Avoid this temptation at all costs mongers.[/QUOTE]When the chicas are this desperate for business, it shows that it is a mongers market. The chicas have raised their prices from 600 to 800 pesos in the last year or so (yes for the USD users it seems the same) and are wondering what happened to business. USD users do not have the extra cash as before because of the economy.
Instead of taking advantage of this by going RAW. Take advantage by getting a better price. 500- 600 pesos was good a year or so ago and should be good today if they want business. Even though it is less to us, it is the same to them. I can not stand the "house condoms". So instead of using those converted bicycle tires, I get (trial and err) condoms that fit and feel well for my Mr. Happy. I was a long time condom hater because I through years of girlfriends and wives did most of my sex raw, so that is the feeling I looked for in sex. Dealing with pay for play, it is very foolish to attempt raw. Years ago the condoms even in the USA were not as good as they are today. I have used some brands and styles that there is very little sensation difference to me. Just get out and try different styles and brands that will give you the feeling you are looking for. I am around 50 years old now so as the older guys know your feelings down there are not as acute as they once were and will not improve. :( Still I can find condoms and I have experimented, that does not rob me completely of the sensation I want and need for enjoyment.
Instead of risking peoples health by paying more for or asking for raw, bargain for a reduced price and maybe do them twice with your savings. End of the day everybody wins. Chica makes her money, you get extra session (s) and all are just as healthy.
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My primary care physician told me that Trojans have one of the higher failure rates. Actually, I can't remember whether it was higher or actually highest.
Lambskin condoms do NOT protect against HIV.
I use Avanti non-latex condoms, made by Durex. They're a bit more expensive, and more difficult to find, but they're worth it. They fit a little oddly; tight at the base and loose around the top. That way you get a bit of friction within the condom itself, which feels better. I believe the inside has a very slight texture.
They are tougher than latex, but as thin or thinner. Never had one break.
The term is bible thumping minister. Preachers preach and chaplains are used when going to church is not possible as in prisoners or military. Serge? If you mean sarge that is a shit eating fish that lives at the bottom of the sea or a term used by someone who wants to be the sex toy of a Sargent. Bringing religion or the military into the conversation just showed your ignorance in both subjects.
Lambskin condoms do not prevent VD. Only good to help prevent pregnancy. Trojans are not a good choice. Lifestyle or Durex are much better choices. Durex has a lot of different styles to experiment with but I like the Lifestyle Ultra Sensitive. Since I am not allergic to latex, I stay with latex for maximum protection.
If you are not happy with what you have used in the past, try something different. All are available online.
I have had AMP workers slip on a condom so skillfully with their mouths that I thought they were giving me a bbbj. I simply ask what brand/style they were using. I do not believe one size fits all equally. If your Mr Happy thin or thick get what is right for you. If it keeps slipping off get a narrow style. If it feels like a tourniquet, get a wider style.
There is no rule that you cannot carry more than one style with you. Thicker lubed for the long hard pounding or thin and sensitive for the bj ,slow easy screw.