Rants, Stupid Shit and Coronavirus in Thailand

[QUOTE=Blanquiceleste;2313146]I have nothing against anyone or any race for that matter. However, I want to make an observation and invite some thoughts.

If you look at the FB page of Sapphire in Pattaya, which is acknowledged by almost everyone as a tourist trap, all you will see in their pics are white dudes getting shit-faced. So is it fair to say that the girls there who have golden pussies and princess attitudes have been spoiled rotten by the same western mongers?

The fact is the world has changed. Some folks have more disposable income than others and they choose to blow it the way they want. Some of us here don't seem to have that luxury or that will. Why complain about those who can afford it and won't flinch dropping 10 K baht a night?[/QUOTE]Why? Simple. As the prices have gone up, the service and quality has gone down. And yes, western punters tend to be more demanding as to what they want and expect from P4P gals.

[QUOTE=Catire;2312968]I heard / read that this was due to pressure from the Thaksin govt. They put the clamps on old Thai "sluttiness".[/QUOTE]I have been here on and off since 1991 well before Thaksin. With Thaksin came a crack down on what goes on behind closed doors. Not really out in public. The crack down was for girls too young, and all the Thai Yai girls from Myanmar in the Soapy MPs, etc. Also making places close earlier instead of adult stuff ranging on till 4 am. Crack down of forcing girls to have medical exam certificates, trying to reduce STDs perhaps. I think they have reduced. I never caught anything recently.

In 1991, Thais were very demure in public, but could be very slutty hidden away. The exception would be Pattaya, where I am no expert, having only visited there twice and both times briefly. I was always told that anything goes in Pattaya where it definitely does not in public in Bangkok.

Girls on the street today in Bangkok dress far more sexy than when I first came to Thailand. Even 10 years ago, I would say the dress was still a lot more conservative. In the modern day, have girls wearing very tight leotards to show off the exact shape of their legs, ass, and maybe even camel toe pussy. Never saw that in my early days here. Girls did not want to appear to be hookers, if they were not. Thai girls were very reluctant to hold hands with a farang, and you could not kiss in public even on the cheek.

Example of slutty in 1991, hidden away in the "dirty" bars, would be going upstairs to Patpong Rose bar, and seeing a girl sitting naked with legs spread so male customer could do the full deep pussy exam with fingers stuffed in there. Or upstairs in the Kangeroo bar girls would get your pants down quickly and we would get their pants down quickly too. Multiple girls per male customer. Many wore shorts with no knickers underneath. Live sex shows were plentiful, sometimes including volunteer customers at Kangaroo bar I think. Just about anything goes. BJs and DATY in the bars, not uncommon. I would say overall their is less raunchy behaviour in bars now, other than we now have some bars with girls dancing nude and fully shaved pussy, but girls are much more sexy in public, than years ago. Influenced heavily by Korean sexy videos I think.

On a tangent:

So many Thais have visited Korea and failed to come home, that there is now starting to be a crack down. For all the Thais currently in south Korea, I don't know what percentage are working as hookers, and how many restaurants, etc. But probably mostly illegal workers.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2313734]So many Thais have visited Korea and failed to come home, that there is now starting to be a crack down. For all the Thais currently in south Korea, I don't know what percentage are working as hookers, and how many restaurants, etc. But probably mostly illegal workers.[/QUOTE]I know a few gogo girls who went to Korea with their Sponsors. Most have not returned but some have after the money dried up. Also know some who went to jail for a year in Korea for working in sex shops.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2313741]I know a few top looking gogo girls who went to Korea with their Sponsors. Most have not returned but some have after the money dried up. Also know some who went to jail for a year in Korea for working in sex shops.[/QUOTE]Yes you are more likely to meet these types of girls that appeal more to Koreans I guess. I simply heard that around the local Thai village, quite a number of the Issan people living there are now in South Korea. I did not dare ask what percentage were young girls. The info was most had been there for significant time and probably over stayed or were not really tourists. Definitely working for money was the intention.

It used to be possible for Thais to travel to Korea pretending to be tourists I think, as part of AEC (Asia Economic Community). They may have had to have Guarantors, I don't know. If intending to work in restaurants, guarantors might be available. Same for hookers. However now that some days, hundreds of Thais were arriving in Korea on a particular day, they are starting to not allow them in mostly, was the story I heard.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2313741]I know a few gogo girls who went to Korea with their Sponsors. Most have not returned but some have after the money dried up. Also know some who went to jail for a year in Korea for working in sex shops.[/QUOTE]I've heard of similar stories in the Philippines. One girl said the money was fantastic but she needed the help of a regular foreign customer to basically escape their clutches.

Cheers. G.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2313745]I simply heard that around the local Thai village, quite a number of the Issan people living there are now in South Korea. I did not dare ask what percentage were young girls. The info was most had been there for significant time and probably over stayed or were not really tourists. Definitely working for money was the intention.[/QUOTE]This information is correct from what you have heard from the villagers. Many Issan people are working in South Korea. The large factories regularly employ many people to assemble motor parts, smartphone hardware and farmers to work in agriculture and of course girls and katoeys to work in cough cough. Massage. I have personally met and spoke with these people. Some of the massage girls are making 50,000 THB per month for what they say is easy work. The factory and farm hands considerably less however better than the 300 THB per day they get around here.

One beauty brought her sponsor from Korea to look around the village and meet her family. He didn't get out of the van.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2313741]I know a few gogo girls who went to Korea with their Sponsors. Most have not returned but some have after the money dried up. Also know some who went to jail for a year in Korea for working in sex shops.[/QUOTE]I knew quite a few Indonesian girls who went to Japan for a few years back in the early 2000's. When they came back, they raved about the great money they made in Japan and wanted to go back there as soon as possible.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2313734]I have been here on and off since 1991 well before Thaksin. With Thaksin came a crack down on what goes on behind closed doors. Not really out in public. The crack down was for girls too young, and all the Thai Yai girls from Myanmar in the Soapy MPs, etc. Also making places close earlier instead of adult stuff ranging on till 4 am. Crack down of forcing girls to have medical exam certificates, trying to reduce STDs perhaps. I think they have reduced. I never caught anything recently.

In 1991, Thais were very demure in public, but could be very slutty hidden away. The exception would be Pattaya, where I am no expert, having only visited there twice and both times briefly. I was always told that anything goes in Pattaya where it definitely does not in public in Bangkok.

Girls on the street today in Bangkok dress far more sexy than when I first came to Thailand. Even 10 years ago, I would say the dress was still a lot more conservative. In the modern day, have girls wearing very tight leotards to show off the exact shape of their legs, ass, and maybe even camel toe pussy. Never saw that in my early days here. Girls did not want to appear to be hookers, if they were not. Thai girls were very reluctant to hold hands with a farang, and you could not kiss in public even on the cheek..[/QUOTE]I'd say that 10 years ago the dress was far sexier than it is today.

[QUOTE=Bouvis;2313756]One beauty brought her sponsor from Korea to look around the village and meet her family. He didn't get out of the van.[/QUOTE]Too funny. Can't say I can blame him.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2312902]Luanda Angola may be a good option currently. Their currency has fallen and the girls there are hot, wild, partiers. They have black girls with a Portuguese mix and the Brazilian culture. By far the best looking girls in Africa if you ask me. I had wild times at places like Stadium and Tanamur in Jakarta, but I had some similar wild times at the night spots in Angola. They do like to party.[/QUOTE]Just not into black girls.

[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;2312914]Non-PFP girls dressing more conservative is not a good trend, but it doesn't bother me too much. After investing the requisite effort (sometimes considerable), one will be naked in the bedroom anyway. The amount of effort is going up, partly because just being a Farang is not much of an immediate status boost as in the old times, but that's a different topic.

What bothers me far more is that hookers and borderline girls are much fewer in numbers. Worse yet, out of the few that remain, most have so unmistakably bottom-of-the-barrel, piece-of-trash hooker-looks with fake thick eyebrows, extensive tattos, awful nosejobs and worse boobjobs. While some punters might find it sexy, rauchy and appealing, to me it gives out an impression of trash that I not only wouldn't fuck, but feel bad being around. Case in point, Smoothy's first picture a few posts ago (no offense to Smoothy, I understand sexual attraction works in mysterious ways).

Gone are the times when a huge number of working girls I came across in Thailand were rather normal, cute, pleasant women, to the point that you could easily be surprised and delighted they were actually on the game and available for 1000 baht. They were so nice you could easily imagine spending a few pleasant hours / days / months in their company or even marrying one as some Farang did. Back then (not so long ago, just 5-10 years or so), even short times were 2-shot leisurely affairs for me. These days, even if I find someone somewhat sexy, I wouldn't want to stick around after the first pop, let alone negotiate and pay for two.[/QUOTE]Concur. It's getting to the point where it is almost not even worth it for me anymore. I only partake about once a month. And even then the majority of the time I think, I could have jerked off and saved the money. I really don't like choosing between old uglies who perform and young lookers who don't and expect you to pay dearly for it. Neither has become the best option most of the time.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2313936]Too funny. Can't say I can blame him.[/QUOTE]Yes LMAO. He just sat there peeping out the window. Another arrival I witnessed here was during Songkran when a girl brought her Japanese sponsor to experience the friendly locals. He at least got out and walked around a bit. I said greetings to him but he didn't appear to want to chat. It's not that bad here in the sticks in Isan, a little "National geographic" but you can work with it.

[QUOTE=Bouvis;2313756]This information is correct from what you have heard from the villagers. Many Issan people are working in South Korea. The large factories regularly employ many people to assemble motor parts, smartphone hardware and farmers to work in agriculture and of course girls and katoeys to work in cough cough. Massage. I have personally met and spoke with these people. Some of the massage girls are making 50,000 THB per month for what they say is easy work. The factory and farm hands considerably less however better than the 300 THB per day they get around here.

One beauty brought her sponsor from Korea to look around the village and meet her family. He didn't get out of the van.[/QUOTE]Very Interesting.

Funny about taking the sponsor to the village. My Thai GF was never keen to have me visit the area of Bangkok where she used to live, fearing gossip, before she was really sure we were a permanent thing. So while I met her brother and daughter, was several years before meeting the village relatives, and there had never been any Farangs there in that village (nor Koreans I guess). So I am the only Farang there. The whole Amphoe does have some other Farangs, but I never met them.

Don't need any any local "Bros" at all, and have very few Farang buddies / acquaintences in Bangkok as well. I am just not a very social animal, I guess, but have significantly more female regular contacts than guys, especially if omit work contacts.

One monger buddy OS suddenly dropped me from contact, as he seemingly decided to drop monger buddies as being a bad influence, ha ha. Yet he was a much more wayward prolific big spending monger than me. No idea if he has been successful in cutting his mongering budget, or giving it up completely. I had cut back a lot before he did. He was a very stressed guy, so over eating and mongering were his releases. At first I was concerned he might have died from heart attack, however hope he is doing well now.

Hopefully most guys mongering here in Thailand are relatively stress free.

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2313834]I'd say that 10 years ago the dress was far sexier than it is today.[/QUOTE]How is that? More bare legs years ago rather than very tight spandex now? Not sure I can see the more conservative dress now. I see very tight stuff now showing exactly what the great ass is like.

Right now I do see many girls dressed very demurely and others dressed hot a bit like hookers. Not sure if all the girls dressed like hookers actually are hookers or not, but I assume so if any ass cheek is hanging out of short cut off shorts, as that is just a bit too sexy for the BTS travel. I don't think we saw that 10 years ago, but maybe my memory is bad.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2314078]Very Interesting.

Funny about taking the sponsor to the village. My Thai GF was never keen to have me visit the area of Bangkok where she used to live, fearing gossip, before she was really sure we were a permanent thing. So while I met her brother and daughter, was several years before meeting the village relatives, and there had never been any Farangs there in that village (nor Koreans I guess). So I am the only Farang there. The whole Amphoe does have some other Farangs, but I never met them.

Don't need any any local "Bros" at all, and have very few Farang buddies / acquaintences in Bangkok as well. I am just not a very social animal, I guess, but have significantly more female regular contacts than guys, especially if omit work contacts.

One monger buddy OS suddenly dropped me from contact, as he seemingly decided to drop monger buddies as being a bad influence, ha ha. Yet he was a much more wayward prolific big spending monger than me. No idea if he has been successful in cutting his mongering budget, or giving it up completely. I had cut back a lot before he did. He was a very stressed guy, so over eating and mongering were his releases. At first I was concerned he might have died from heart attack, however hope he is doing well now.

Hopefully most guys mongering here in Thailand are relatively stress free.[/QUOTE]My GF is also not high on me meeting her family. Though, few days back, when she had couple of extra glasses of gin and tonic, she asked if I want to meet her parent (she was going to meet them next day). I didn't explicitly said no, but showed some hesitation, she got the hint and blurted that "she was kidding".