Phnom Penh

[QUOTE=Ibeme]Where on 63rd St. Are the "shops" located? I usually stay at Flamingo's. Is it close to the big market or further down the opposite way? I would never consider walking there and would take a moto anyway. I just never have heard where on 63rd they are located.[/QUOTE]Turn left out of Flamingos, left onto #51, right at Walkabout, go one block and left onto #63; stroll on down the left side: the touts will let you know.

Not an unsafe walk in daylight. A moto dropping you off will raise the tab considerably.

Take only the money you need and no other valuables. Put your pants under the pillow, not on the rack.

Bayareapundit

Really do youself a favour and stay away from Cambodia, I second what islandboy54 has already told you an agressive attitude in Cambodia could have very serious concequences.

In fact I am very suprised that in Thailand the police didn't charge you for tearing up their currency as that is an insult to their king, a swedish guy burnt a note a while ago and was sentenced to 3 months in prison.

If you want to come back to asia why not try india obviously no prejudice problems there and you will find plenty indian sluts there just like the russian and thai sluts you said you found in Bangkok only cheaper.

Having read your Pattaya report and as you say money was not an issue I can't understand why you stayed, just buy a airline ticket and move on somewhere where you feel welcome.

[QUOTE=Bayareapundit]What's the attitude like towards people from India in this country? I ask this because I experienced in Thailand 200% unquestionable rejection from beer and go go bars. I would think of Cambodia the same way, being such a close neighbor of Thailand, but browsing this forum I saw several references to Viets as well. So maybe things are a little different.

I work and live in California and am thinking about a second excursion after last year's disaster in Thailand. Thailand book is closed in my mind forever. Even Thai food, Thai air, Thai businesses, Thai people, everything.

I am trying to decide between Cambodia and Malaysia within sometime between next 2 months.[/QUOTE]

I have never been to Cambodia but been to Thailand (Bangkok) many many times. I am the same ethnicity as you and also live in th US. I do not understand why you could not get laid in Thailand. When I go to Bangkok, I regularly do 2 girls a day (freelancers - I don't go to go-go bars because some of them discriminate). I have no problem picking up girls. Sure, some of them give me the cold shoulder - but there are SO MANY girls that I really don't give a shit. Once they start talking to me, they realize I am nice guy. More importantly, all working girls have a network and word spreads fast - good or bad. I have had girls tell their friends that I am nice guy, pay fairly, and clean. The friends then want to go out with me! This same thing happened to me in Dubai as well (where the racism is a million times worse than in Thailand). This PRC girl I took told her friend and that girl wanted to go with me (she was pretty good). In Dubai, CIS and PRC girls tend to stick to white customers mostly. In all cases,once they know you are from "America" (= $$$$$) they don't care about your skin color.

I am not going to judge you since I do not know you. But after reading the your report from Pattaya, I get the feeling you take things too seriously. Just relax and enjoy. You are there to have fun. What better revenge on people who discriminate than having fun IN SPITE of them? Also, the disparaging way your refer to the working girls speaks volumes about your attitude toward them and could be a major reason you had trouble getting your dick wet. This is typically Indian attitude: most Indians treat "help" as trash - whether be it domestic help, waiters, or working girls. I cringe every time I see that shit whether it is in India, the US or other countries.

I agree with whoever said not to be too aggressive in foreign countries. I had a close call in Brazil and learned my lesson. Better to walk away than be dead. And your (my) embassy won't lift a finger or give a shit.''

Why the fuck would you pay 10,000 baht to a CIS girl in BKK??? The going rate is 5000 baht at the most - from CM2.

By the way, the Indonesian girls in Jakarta loved me - because I looked so "exotic." But Indonesia is full of rip-off artists.

Cheers

There are in fact international flights going to PP.

If you have to change flight anyway, why not do that in Hong Kong and then go directly to PP.

Thanks a lot for your responses. Words of wisdom taken and Cambodia is out of equation. I already had Cambodia out of my plans but I took fancy to occasional mention of Viet imports and was thinking - maybe ... somehow. But, oh well ... I will satisfy my Viet fetish in California itself. California is not bad at all, abundant supply of imports from China, Taiwan & Korea and occasional availability from Japan, Vietnam, Singapore, Malaysia.

Secondly, why don't you question my Pattaya post in Pattaya forum?

Let me try to elaborate some more about that posting. That posting is not the entire experience I had; that posting has to do with the conclusion of my visit and is a statement of facts that might help some people (read Indian) make their mind. I doubt if such a categorical assessment of Thailand is available elsewhere from Indian perspective. I wish I had read such a statement before I made my trip.

Crypton - I did manage to get laid whenever I wanted. I had a girl every night, some of them for 2 nights which I found was the maximum I could stay with a particular one. I was an asshole only for 2 days and that was by design, all the other time I was a genuine monger on the hunt, taking chances - some successful and some not. I don't think I offended a single girl. I did not. I don't think I can ever offend a girl. In the worst case I would ask her to leave while cutting her payment short, which incidentally I happened to do on the very first night (what an initiation to (Thailand). At the end I had a huge list of telephone numbers which I had to dispose off at the airport.

Cam Bodia - I can't monger in India even though as you say it will take care of a lot of modalities because when I go to India I want to spend all my time with family. I could not be boozing and mongering full time which is what I want to do occasionally, to just set the spirit free. Secondly, money is not an issue but visa is. I have to plan my visit in advance, there are very few places I can just point my nose and go to. Thailand and Cambodia ruled out now. Man life is tough!

Redfield - My modus operandi is to first offer a drink to the lady when I want to talk. Usually another one also joins in. If I see some interest I hang around and keep compensating them for their time by buying them drinks or else I move on. I acknowledge there's definitely some part of Indian persona which makes them act in a certain way. It's not easy to get them to spend. When they spend they want to see concrete return upfront. I have had to adjust myself and I think I have been able to do it. But the Thai machinery is so setup that they would make it impossible for me to move to the next step. No problems here, I don't give a fuck what Thais want and don't want, I only wish I had known in no uncertain terms about it. I hope my report helps some people and makes them aware of the ground reality.

PinkPearl & Islandboy54 & Ekspat & Hollow Man & Xdentx - Thanks for sharing the pearls of wisdom!

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Go to Cambodia. My friend is from India (born, raised, and lived his whole life) and had no problems out on his own without me when we were there together. He dressed in slacks and dress shirts or polo shirts like I usually do. Cambodians and Thais have a diferent culture from each other and are still antagonistic towards each other. I arrive 16 March in PP, meet me there for the week and I will make sure you have a good time. Hell, drunk Koreans in PP have the worst reputation.
Cheers, T.

[QUOTE=Taloha]Go to Cambodia. My friend is from India (born, raised, and lived his whole life) and had no problems out on his own without me when we were there together. He dressed in slacks and dress shirts or polo shirts like I usually do. Cambodians and Thais have a diferent culture from each other and are still antagonistic towards each other. I arrive 16 March in PP, meet me there for the week and I will make sure you have a good time. Hell, drunk Koreans in PP have the worst reputation.

Cheers, T.[/QUOTE]Hey Taloha,

Thanks for encouragement. You know, my first question has basically gone unanswered, which will be the biggest factor in deciding whether is a go or no go. Am I going to be stopped right at the gate or not like in Thailand? Because in that case I am not going to care.

Secondly, what kind of action is there in Cambodia, do they have beer bars or only brothels and massage parlors?

[QUOTE=Bayareapundit]Hey Taloha,

Thanks for encouragement. You know, my first question has basically gone unanswered, which will be the biggest factor in deciding whether is a go or no go. Am I going to be stopped right at the gate or not like in Thailand? Because in that case I am not going to care.

Secondly, what kind of action is there in Cambodia, do they have beer bars or only brothels and massage parlors?[/QUOTE]

No you won't be stopped right at the gate. Cambodia has beer bars, brothels, and massage parlors. My friend hit the beer bars and massage parlors.

Two more questions concerning 63 st.

What time of the day do they open? I've read the stories anout these places and would feel safer during the day.

Second, roughly how far down 63 st. Are they from the street that Walkabout is on? 100's of meters, half a mile?

I'll be in PP sometime in March and would like to give them a try.

Is any mongers in PP right now , could you let us know if Sophies is still open, the wife loves going in to get her pussy licked. We will be in PP 2nd week in March.

Yes Sophie Club still open. I've been yesterday. They have one new girl coming from Battambang with excellent skills. If she can lick pussy like she sucks dick. I think you will enjoy.

[QUOTE=Cepu19]

[b]Walkabout Girl[/b]
Her name escapes me but with the chance of describing half the Cambodia population she was about 20 years old. She had black long hair with a slight overbite but only enough to be cute. He eyes was slightly more slanted than the typical Khmer revealing a bit of Viet in her make-up. The normal height let’s say 155 cm but a little more meaty than the run of the mill yamma Walkabout girl. Her English was fairly good and she had the most inviting smile I have seen for a long time. A tight white pair of jeans with a sleeveless black top made her a bit more sophisticated in looks than the typical girls. She had diamonds (or maybe glass?) in her five front teeth which made her a bit unusual. She was playing pool discretely scanning the room for potential customers

If anyone recognise and has the contact details for the Walkabout girl please PM me as I would like to line her up for a few days services on my next visit in a few months.

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This sure sounds like a girl named Navi, A khmer girl whose barang husband recently left her, so she is back on the scene at Walkabout. Exaggerated orgasm noises, money grabbing, meatier than usual body, 5 diamonds in the teeth and all. I am not a fan, but you have the name. Plus she is usually there almost everyday alone, so you should have no trouble finding her.

[QUOTE=Bayareapundit]Thanks for responding pal, if you could just help me a little more. So, are you saying it's a complete no as it is in Thailand or is it a little better than Thailand? I am looking to spend money while looking for my money's worth in return, simple. In Thailand they would turn me down even before I get to spend any money. That's the reason I ask. Because that kind of situation is beyond repair. Can I expect the same in Cambodia or little better than that? Help a monger![/QUOTE]Just buy a beer when you go into a bar, they just want to see that you will not take them for a ride,[or take one for a ride if you like her LOL] and cambodia`s the same, good luck.

[QUOTE=Bayareapundit]What's the attitude like towards people from India in this country? I ask this because I experienced in Thailand 200% unquestionable rejection from beer and go go bars. I would think of Cambodia the same way, being such a close neighbor of Thailand, but browsing this forum I saw several references to Viets as well. So maybe things are a little different.

I work and live in California and am thinking about a second excursion after last year's disaster in Thailand. Thailand book is closed in my mind forever. Even Thai food, Thai air, Thai businesses, Thai people, everything.

I am trying to decide between Cambodia and Malaysia within sometime between next 2 months.[/QUOTE]Why you just want to try gogo bar or bar beer in Thailand? This kind of place are farang oriented. I can tell you one thing: in the thai local scene, thai street hookers will never rejected you excepted if you re too" cheap charlie".

In Cambodia? I don't know about bar girls but in local brothels and with street hookers waiting on sisovath quay, you will have no problem. Be careful with your wallet if you take street hookers in Cambodia

Personaly Malaysia is good sex place a little bit more expansive than Thailand (due of high cost of rooms), the main problem is the action time no more than 20 minutes when you get 1 hours or more in Thailand. But Malaysia have thai, malay, Chinese (really appreciate by indians for what I saw), viet. But in Malaysia don t expected too much fromp bar scene it s really really expansive. Better to to go in spa, or local brothel or street hookers.

[QUOTE=Cam Bodia]Is any mongers in PP right now , could you let us know if Sophies is still open, the wife loves going in to get her pussy licked. We will be in PP 2nd week in March.[/QUOTE]

Sophies was definitely in business as of Friday nite. They may be a bit more conservative than in the past but it still cost me $4 for the 4 samples and $12 for the BBBJ and a beer.